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Mr. URQUHART said the grant was an annual protest
in favour of the nationality of Poland, and was based on the
highest grounds of justice. It was remarkable that when
the state of Poland was being discussed that the House
treated it with levity. England was much to blame for the
fallen condition of Poland.
Mr. G. THOMPSON said, the reasons in favourof the vote
arged by the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last were the most
extraordinary that could be urged in a British House of
Commons. Forsooth,because the Czar of Russia had tram-
fled
upon the nationality of Poland, were they to support for
ears all whom his tyranny had driven from their native
and? He bore testimony to the merits of the Poles, but con-
sidering the vote altogether indefensible, he should vote
ag tinst it, in the hope that it would be abolished fur ever.
Air. ROBINSON opposed the Bill.
1:lr'• OSBORNE said if the Chancellor of the Exchequer
would state that this should be the last vote, he would not
divide the House.
Mr. O'CONNOR was opposed to taking the grant away
without notice te the recipients that it would be discontinued.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explained
that what he had said was that it would not be well to take
away the grant in a summary manner. He thought that
the old, the helpless, and those who were u.,able to go back
to their own country should alone receive the grant.
After some further discussion,
Mr. OSBORNE said the explanation of the Chancellor of
the Exchequer was perfectly satisfactory; he should not
therefore divide. The vote was therefore agreed to.
On the vote for 6,669/. to defray the miscellaneous allow-
"cos of the Civil List not otherwise provided for being pre-
. posed,
Mr. C. LUSHINGTON opposed the Regium D 07171911 part
of this vote on the behalf of the Dissenters of the country, as
derogatory to them, and moved that the vote should he re-
duced by the sum of 1,693/. the amount of the Regium Donuni
part of the vote.
After some discussion, in which Colonel Thompson, Lord
John Russell. Mr. Fox, Mr. Kershaw, Mr. George Thompson,
1 Ir. Bright, Mr. Hume, Mr. Muntz, Mr. IVyld, and Mr.
bharman Crawford took part,
Shen)
Pik.e. gers were ordered to withdraw, but no division took
the gallery having rose, moved the exclusion from the esti-
mate of the sum set apart for the French Protestant refugees
; 1,500/,)
Atter 4 short discussion, the HON. MEMBER for Dublin
Itrithdrew his amendment, and the Committee divided upon
/;* C• Lushington's amendment with respect to the .Regium
°.n am, when there appeared—
For the vote 6O
For the amendment
Majority for the vote —32
721 e vote was then 'agreed to.
' 'le House then resumed, '
.o Sit he
againßa quarter tMAN repoorted' progress, and obtained leave
at;a six, o'clock.
LIILLI3ANK PRISON BILL.
This Bill
1-1.. was read a third time and passed.
COMMONS INCLOSURE ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
otterhe third reading of this Bill was postponed till after the
eh orders of the day were disposed of.
, DUBLIN POLICE BILL.
alle taird reading of this Bill. was also postponed until
16111 e other orders of the day were disposed of.
iI,IBANCES AND CONTAGIOUS DISEASES BILL.
oni -V rel Sort on this Bill was postponed until after the other
. ~era of the day were 'disposed of.
FEVER (IRELAND) BILL.
et h_ eeimmittee on this Bill was postponed until after the
• `torders of the day were disposed of.
BANKRUPTS RELEASE BILL.
re. aThia till-went through Committee, and was ordered to be
d a •
Opp third time to-Morrow, at twelve o'clock.
I?RS OF COURTS' OF JUSTICE (IRELAND)
n ASSIMILATION OF APPOINTMENTS BILL.
a-'ll the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the order of the
rl3' for the second reading of this Bill was discharged, the
w!bleLord stating that it would be impossible to proceed
Ruble
themeasure in the course of the present session.
ir„rh, e House, then, at a Quarter before Four o'clock, ad-
"""raed to a Quarter before Six o'Clock.'

The Rouse resumed at a Quarter to Six o'clock.
krPETITIONS.
ati / • -HARMAN CRAWFORD presented a petition from
▪ edependent congregation in Belfast against the Regium
ni grant. t.
end • —ISRAELI presented a petition from the adventurers
Mitten of Hurlstone against the reduction of the duty
on
copper ore.
NOTICE OF MOTION.
PORSTER gave notice that early next session he
• (Lid bring the grand jury system under the consideration
"4 the Rouse.
MRETURNS.—SITTINGS OF THE HOUSE.
in • lIROTHERTON moved for, and obtained the fog-ow-
/AC returns :—Return of the number of days on which the
II" of Commons sat in the session 1847-8, stating for each
dayin the hour of meeting, and the hour of adjourn-
th ezit, and the total number of hours occupied in
and
sitti
also ngs of the House, and the average time ;
showing the number of hours on which
th,
eft Rouse sat each :day, and the number of hours
,0:r midnight; and the number of entries in each day's
ee and proceedings • also the total number of
tiuotirs the House sat during the session (in continua-
tl_ll, °f Parliamentary Paper, No. 746, of Session 1847).
—stunt
of the number of divisions in the session 1847-8;
ting the subject of the division, and the number of Mem-
iiiisor* in the majority and minority, tellers included ;
cur, the aggregate number in the House on each
fr ; distinguishing, also, the divisions on public Bibs
private; and, also, the number of divisions before and
747 Midnight (in continuation of Parliamentary Paper No.
°f Session 1847). Return of an alphabetical list of the
Public Bills which hare been introduced into the House
whl3lduring Commons the session 1847.8. stating by
u introd d which have been
_brought from the
Rouseeee of Lords,e e
e or
date of their several sta
since
in e g
°4B; and distinguishing those which have
Inc law (in continuation of Parliamentary Paper,
!Co. 756, of Session 1847). Return of the total
year
of Acts passed in each session since
the Year 1800; distinguishing the number of public, private,
ti'l local personal Acts; and the number relating to Great
rltnih, England, Scotland, and Ireland, and those relating
to the United Kingdom. Return of the number of
ais on which the House of Commons has sat in each session
the year 1800, stating for each day the hour of meeting
!nod the hour of adjournment, and the total number of
hours ocarcAtenaaiesdohisdnirytwh,
aei sittings
showing
tt
hh ee number
uno
mfm thebb ee_r House, and the average
ofof h
nhours
aftero n
midnightwhich
/louse sat
and the number of entries in each 'dav's votes and
ings ; also the
total
number of hours the proceed-
each sesilon. House sat during

JOHN MITCHEL.
Mr. ROBINSON gave notice that, on Friday, he would
put a question to the Right Hon. the Secretary of State for
the Home Department relative to the convict Mitchel.
• TE MINT.
In reply to a question frHom Sir J. TYRELL,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated that
he bad every reason to believe that the labours of the Mint
Commission would be brought to a close within a month,
when their report would be ready for delivery.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
In reply to a question from Mr. FORBES,
Lord J: RUSSELL stated that he proposed to take the
Diplomatic Relations with Rome Bill to-morrow, at twelve,
and the Sale of Spirits Bill at five o'clock.
In reply to a question from Lord G. BENTINCK,
aMr. lIAWES said he had no objection to lay on the table
the House a copy of the resolutions of the Jamaica
amber of Commerce.
COLONIAL LIGHTHOUSES.
`-'n the question for going into Committee of Supplte y,
-Mr. HUME rose to call the attention to the sta of the
colonial light. houses, and to the shipwrecks in consequence
uift the want of some attention to these matters. The Hon.
mber observed that much inconvenience and injury re•
Putted to British subjects abroad, because of the irregular
manner in which the business connected with the superin •
iendence of the colonial light-house i was conducted. British
subjects, when a light-house required to be established or
repaired, did not know where to apply. Some applied to the
Board of. Trade, others to the Admiralty, others to the Colo-
hitt-office, and others to Trinity-house corporation. The
consequence was, that while they were bandied about from
one department to the other, a lamentable loss of life and
Property occasionally occurred. His suggestion was, that the
B,llbject should be referred for inquiry to the Tidal Harbour
Commissioners, who he hoped would supply the House with
Itch information as would enable it to deal with the question
a satisfactory manner early next session.
Mr.m LABOUCHERE thought that the question was quite
" important to be disposed of in Incidental discussion such
as the present. The whole question of the management of
the, lights of this country required revision and alteration.
fle had himself prepared a Bill, although he had not as yet
had time to iutroduce it, which would provide a proper
sYstem of management with respect to all lights on the
coast of the United Kingdom. The question of the colo-
nial lights was at present under the consideration of the
Admiralty.—(Hear,

• SUPPLY.
'The House then resolved itself into a Committee of Supply ;
Xr. Bernal in the chair.
The Miscellaneous Estimates were resumed.
The first vote, 3,0001. for the Foundling Hospital, Dublin,
was'agreed to. _ _

6,975/. for defraying the expenses of the House of Indus-
try, Dublin.

-1,0001. for the Female Orphan House, Dublin.
Mr. OSBORNE called attention to the fact that no portion
of the grant was given to Roman Catholics.
Mr. HUME would object to the grant if no portion of it
were given to Roman Catholics.
Colonel SIBTHORP observed on the paper that a sum was
put down for Emily Sibthorp, the matron of an institution,
and he totally disclaimed any knowledge of; or relationship
with that ladv.—(Laughter. )
Mr. OSBORNE would suggest to the Honourable and
Gallant Colonel that they bad passed the vote to which he
now referred, and which was included in the grant for a
lunatic asylum.—(Laughter,)
`Viscount MORPETII considered establishments of an ex-
clusive character objectionable ; but this vote was merely
given in aid of a very large contribution which had been
Made by Protestant individuals of great benevolence.
Mr. HAMILTON bore testimony to the admirable manner
in which the institution was managed. "
Sir W. SOMERVILLE promised that an inquiry should
no made as to the principle on which this institution was
established.
Mr. MUNTZ objected to such a state of things being al-
'Owed to continue, and declared that he would divide the
Committee on the question.
a Lord J. RUSSELL remarked that the institution was, to
great extent, supported by voluntary subscriptions, and it
was not in their power to alter the rules of the institution.
Mr. lIUME thought the amount of the grant might be
reduced.
TMr. MUNTZ would not divide the Committee on the
~.,e
I"lionif the Noble Lord pledged himself to make no grant
..7xtaltetrr. pt there was au alteration in the manage-
year, except of the institution.
GOULBURN did not think they could attempt to
the rules of the institution.
Lord J. RUSSELL would take care :to have the matter
inftired into, and fairly considered.
,i'ne vote was agreed to.
u`'soo/. to defray the expenses of the Westmorland Lock
°Vital. Dublin.
!,000/ for the expenses of the Dublin Lying-in Hospital.
t''(lo/. to defray the expenses of Dr. Stevens' Hospital.
8001. for the House of Recovery and Fever Hospital,
'ork-street Dublin.
5001 Dublin,for the expenses of the Hospital for Incurables,
dx2_7;837/. to complete the sum necessary for defraying the
~Psenses of the non-conforming, seceding, and Protestant
~sting ministers in Ireland.
n 1
I°S. CRAW FORD opposed the vote, with the excep-
of 3661., the amount of the grant
1 allowed for the sup-
s9rt of the widows and orphans of ministers of the Synod of
titer. He moved, as an amendment, the grant now pro-
Po!ed 'should be reduced to 3661.
-,1 °lr. KEOGH begged to call attention to the case of Mr.
Dill Presbyterian minister of the Clonmel congregation, who
'l4Plaitied that the portions of the Regium L)onum which