The Sun.
London, England, 1846-05-19 00:00:00

THE SUN LONDON, TUESDAY s MORNING, MAY 19, 1846.

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first, that
crease in the linen trade would result in the fact that the
manufacture of linen would stand in the same relation with
regard to foreign countries which their manufactures had
done towards England. With this great difference that we
spent 2,000,0001. of money annually in foreign countries for
the raw material, which, if it were permitted
to grow in this country, would be expended
at home by the labour of out own hands, and weals'', industry,
and prosperity would be spread throughout the country. The
conclusion of this statement was, that from 5,000,00C4 to
6,000,000/. annually were drained out of the country to pay
foreign nations for the produce of a crop which could be grown
at home, with profit to the farmer, the employment of the
labourer' and the benefit of the community at large. The point
to which he would wish most particularly to advert, was to the
potato crop, unless any Gentleman should consider that in ad-
verting to that crop be referred to what `was trifling, or
unworthy of the House. He would ask Honourable Members
to remember foreign debates upon the subject. The whole of
the corn-law question had been based by the Right Hon.
Baronet at the head of the Government on the failure cf the
potato crop, or what was sometimes called the potato panic.
He thought the Noble Lord near him had done the
state some service with regard to this crop. The Noble Lord
had said very pathetically, if they waited till May they would
find that the potato panic would be given up by the Right
Hon. Baronet. That had turned out to be the case, and if he
understood them rightly, that was not now the cause of the
reduction of the duties, so that the Noble Lord, if he had done
no good is the debate which had taken place, had at least
taken away a false impression, under which many seemed to
have laboured. In 1842 the duty on potatoes was almost pro-
hibitory ; it amounted to almost 24 per ton. That duty had
since been reduced, and now it was proposed to take it off alto-
gether. Since 1842, the House would allow, the cost of in-
troducing potatoes into this country would be a fair specimen of
what would take place in the event of the total removal of tbe
duty. He wished to ask the House if the price of potatoes had
been lowered since 1842? Next,drad the importation which
had taken place made them independent of the seasons ? Also
whether they received an ample foreign supply ?—(Hear,
hear.) And after that, could the prices be stated? With re-
gard to those questions, especially the last, which regarded the
statement of prices, he would be able to answer. He held in
his hand some returns which were all but official, and these
returns, like the statement he made the other night, he was
prepared to verify. From these statements he found that
in the year 1812, 1843, 1844, the prices fluctuated from 40s.
to 90s. per ton, and at the present season the prices varied from
1 Ws. to 150 s. per ton.—( Hear, hear, in which Sir braes
Graham joined.) He was very glad to see the Irght Hon.
Secretary join in that dicer ; but would he cheer at the neat
statement he was about to make to the House, when he stated
that he was convinced of the benefits which would be pro-
duced by the sliding-scale v. btu nay prices were steady,
and the greatest variation was about 20 per cent.? As that
statement was so much cheered from the Treasury Benches,
be would state when the greatest rise in potatoes took place.
It was in December last.—( Hear, hear.) In December. 1843,
the highest average of prices was LBs. per ton. In December,
1844, the highest average was 58s. ; and in December, 1845,
the prices rose to 90,,?.. per ton. He hoped they would cheer
that.

Sir J. GRAHAM—Hear, hear.
Mr. LAWSON thanked the Right lion. Baronet; but
would he cheer what he was about to say—that when
the Peel panic was heard of the price rose to 150 s. per ton.
They had no cheer for that. By the returns up to January,
1845, he found that, before that year, the value of potatoes
annually exported was more than 5,0001., and in that year
23,000/. That amount would purchase about 10,000 tons of
potatoes, at the rate of 455. per ton, at which they were sell-
ing in Ireland, If that was the case, what became of the de-
claration of the Prime Minister that they would not be able to
find vessels enough to import 10,000 tons of potatoes. If they
had vessels enough to export, surely there would be vessels
enough to import them. From communications which he had
received from Yorkshire, he found that potatoes were ve y
plentiful there ; and he read in the Leeds Illercum a paper
entirely devoted to the Anti-Corn-law League, that there
were weekly 500 to 6S)O bushels offered for sale in that neigh-
bourhood, at from 2a. to 2s. 2d., without a disease or defect.
The best potatoes were brought from York to London, and
were sold, after being kept for six weeks, at 503. per ton ; so
that it was impossible that the statements which had been
made with respect to potatoes could be true. He felt he had
already too long occupied the attention of the House, and he
would conclude by seconding the motion of his Hon. Friend.
Alderman HUMPHREY said that he thought the Hon.
Member was mistaken when he said that potatoes from Yosk
could be sold at 505., a ton when the price there was 80s.,
afterwards raised to 955. a ton; and had they been conveyed to
London, at that price, and kept six weeks, would have been
unfit for the purpose of sale.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had no desire
to prolong this discussion. He merely wished to make a few
observations with respect to what had fallen from the Noble
Lord, and he must observe, at the same time, that the state-
ments of the Noble Lord had been made by him when this
subject was previously under discussion. The Noble Lord, he
must say, had laid down some principles in finance which at
least had the merit of being entirely new, and which was such,
in his opinion, that every individual who paid any attention to
this subject would refuse to subscribe to ; in fact, one part of
the speech of the Noble Lord had answered the other. The
Noble Lord had stated, as a general principle, that by the total
repeal of all Excise duties they would afford great relief to the
consumers of such articles as had been freed from taxation, and
they would get rid of the expense of these establishments.
He gave the Noble Lord the benefit of that argument, but
when the Noble Lord proposed to raise the whole of the re-
venue by an augmentation of the customs duties, commensu-
rate with the whole of the excise duties proposed to be re-
pealed, he proposed a system of revenue which could not be
carried into effect with any success in this country. The
Noble Lord said it would have been far better for the Govern-
ment to have come forward with the proposition for the repeal
of the soap duty, which, he said, would greatly promote the
comfort and happiness of the general body of the community.
He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) did not dispute, nor had
he ever disputed, that the repeal of the soap duty would be a
wise measure, provided the revenue could bear it.—(Cries
of " Hear, hear.") But the Government had already
gone far to reducing the cost of that article, for they
had reduced the duty on the importation of tallow,
from which the inferior sort of soap was principally made, and
a corresponding reduction had been made in the importation of
the 0;1 of which that sort of soap which was used by the
higher classes was made. He did not mean to undervalue the
inconvenience of persons engaged in the manufacture of those
articles which were subject to the Excise laws, but the present
system of supervision could not be avoided. The Noble Lord
had in his speech paid a tribute to which every one must agree,
to the merits—the financial merits of Mr. Pitt, Mr. Canning,
and Mr. Huskisson, whose opinions the Noble Lord on this
sutject sail concurred with hie own, but he (the Chancellor of
the Exchequer) begged leave to tell the Noble Lord that they
had held opinions quite the reverse, The Noble Lord had said
that the Government ought rather to have come forward with
the proposition to repeal the malt duty, which, according to
his statement, produced 5,000,000/. per annum, and which he
said should be taken off malt, and the duty upon beer be re-
imposed. He ( the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was sure
that no one would wish that supervision which formerly existed
with respect to the supervision of beer to be renewed.—(Hear,
hear.) It would deprive private individuals from brew
ing beer for their own use, without being subjected to
continued supervision and heavy duties which the rich would
be enabled to evade. The Noble Lord had also said that it
would have been better had the Government proposed the re-
duction of the duties on spirits, which, he said. amounted to 4001.
per cent. Now he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) firmly
believed that such a reduction would tend not to the health
and improvement, hut the destruction of the health and
morals of the public.—( Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord, in
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tarnaadddent'hbiteet present, and the Noble Lord cried, " See
what a benefit you would have conferred on the revenue, if
you had received the whole duty as it was fixed before
the reduction." But the Noble Lord forgot that
in 1842 they had received only 500,000 loads of
timber, while in 1845, they had received a million, and
the Noble Lord calculated that if they had received the whole
duty of 555, there would have accrued te the revenue the sum
of 1,500,000/. He forgot the importation had not been so
great were it not for the reduction. The princip'e of
trade was to increase the revenue by making a reduction on duty,
for it might be reasonably supposed that an increase of con-
sumption would take place in exact reciprocity. The Noble
Lord said you have not got the whole of the benefit by the re-
duction, the greater part of which was received by the growers.
He admitted as to last year, but as to the former year it was
quite the reverse. Last year there had undoubtedly been an
increased demand, and that demand having been greater than
the supply of the countries from which it came, of course the
grower would place his own price upon the goods. There
was no competitor in the market with him. There had un-
doubtedly been a rise in the price of food, and the Noble
Lord considered that it would have taken place despite
the heavy duty.—( Hear, hear.) But there was a great
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tile tariff the other should raise its in proportion, and to receive
the manufacture of no country unless there was a reciprocal benefit to the other. " You have not exported," said he, " as
much as you have received, and you have not returned to
Russia and Prussia an equal quantity of (manufactures, or even
a proportion to the quantity of wood you have received." That
was not the way to look upon the question, but let them look
to the general mass of the manufactures sent to foreign nations,
and see if there had been an increase in proportion to that ex.
port, and that would be the proper way to view the subject,
and it was not by measuring the exact quantity sent to Russia
or Prussia, who might refuse to receive the value of their arti-
cles in exchange. The same argument applied to what the
Noble Lord said in reference to the shipping interest. There
was a great increase in their commercial shipping, but
it might be proved that some one or two coantries
had a larger increase than heretofore ; but, as he said,
in a previous portion of his remarks, and they should look to
the various relations with England to the rest of the globe,
and they would there see, from the year 1832 to 1845, that
this country had more than doubled her shipping during that
time. The Noble Lord then adverted to the position of the
Canadas, and he would fain have the House believe that there
was in Canada a feeling very adverse to the country and to
the measures which hail been recommended to the House by
her Majesty's Government; and in proof of this assertion, he
alluded to the defeat of the Government party where the
question of adjournment was carried by a majority of seven.
He wished he had laid upon the table that night a copy of
those dispatches for which the Noble Lord had moved; in
truth they bad been already published in the journals, and
the Noble Lord must be well aware, as he was, of the exact
position of the facts, and what was that result? Why, far
otherwise than it was intimated to the Heuse.—( Hear,
hear.) They were told there would be a great
outcry on the reduction of the duty on timber.
Now there was not one word said about the reduction of the
duty on timber in the se dispatches, They did not revert to
them at ail, and though the Noble Lord quoted extracts in re-
ference to the corn-laws from private correspondents, the
Noble Lord should be aware, from his own experience, that
the sentiments of personal members of a legislature were not
always those of a community ; and there was a majority of
fourteen in theiHouse of Assembly. He would not detain the
House by entering further into the details of this measure,
and he would say in conclusion, that the measure was calcu-
lated to promote the financial resources of the country, in-
crease its prosperity its wealth sand independence.
Mr. BANKES said that his Right Honourable Friend,
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, had made an attempt to
answer the speech of his Noble Friend, but in making that at-
tempt he had entirely failed. He did not mean to say the
Right Honourable Gentleman wished to misrepresent his
Noble Friend. It was unfortunate for them, however,
sitting as a party on that side of the House (the
protection benches) that they were never distinctly
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onlyone ear of the Treasury bench, and as had been said very
hurnourously by an Hon. Member, that ear was stuffed with
t ethegm.
corn.—( Laughter. ) Now the speech of the Right Hon.
Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, was no answer
to that which had been advanced by his Noble Friend, for the
tliiiiignhgt Hon. Gentleman had entirely misunderstood the argu-
nts of the Noble Lord near him. • What the Noble Lord
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benefit then they would have been acting in reason.' That
was the system which he uderote9d NM* Friend to have

contended for. It was nct the extra' avant system which hia
Right Hon. Friend, the Chancellor of the F.chcquer wished

to 'Make out for his Noble Friend. If they had netained the
customs' duties which they had now given up, they might have
considered the reduction of the duty on tea. They might
then have taken into their consideration also the reduction of
the duty on hops—a reduction which would have benefited
all classes of the people.—(Cries of " Hear. hear.") He had
thought it his duty, in the discussion on the tariff duties, to
take into his consideration the one particular branch of trade;
—he meant the silk trade. One of the articles of that branch
of trade was the manufacture of the silk hat bands, which
every Member of that House wore round his hat. Now,
that article of the silk trade was manufactured at Manchester,
and the reduction of the duty on silk made a difference to
the workman of 2s. tic!. on his week's work. He thought it
his duty to warn the House, when the article of silk was under
their consideration, to pause before they made that reduction.
What he had stated had, however, no effect, and the conse-
quence was what he had just stated. He was of opinion
that they should do nothing which would tend to reduce the
wages of the workman ; but, on the contrary. it was their
duty to uphold them.—(Hear, hear.) (The Hon. Member
then read an extract from a speech of Mr. Huskisson, de-
livered at a period of contemplated reduction of our protec-
tive duties, in support of his (Mr. Bankes') argument.)
There was one point to which he wished to refer more particu-
larly. They had b'en accused of prolonging there debates to
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corn, which was ready to be brought into the country in
January last, had been gradually admitted it would have done a
great deal of good.
The SPEAKER reminded the Hon. Member that he had
no right to quote former debates in that House.
Air. BANKES would not continue to do so, but he had
already given enough for his purpose. With regard to the
measures that had all along been proposed by her Majesty's
Government, they were the less liked as they became more
known. These were his reasons for opposing the measure,
and he thimked the House for its attention, and would con-
clude by stating that he should give his decided opposition to
the measnre.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. HAWES said that it was not his intention to enter at
all into the merits of the question before the House. Ile
wished to refer to what had fallen from the Hon. Member. If
the country received with such dislike the measures of the Go-
vernment, why had there not been, during the several hours
which this debate had lasted, some Member connected
with the manufacturing interest, to give support to the motion
of the Noble Lord ? No such Hon. Member had attempted to
support the motion, and therefore he thought that be was right
to infer that it was Oct by eny means viewed with such dislike
as the Hon. Member had intimated, and in fact he would ven-
ture to say, from his own knowledge of the subject, that the
measures prepa:ed were looked upon by the manufacturing in-
terest, es likely to be a gift to teem, and one of a beneficial
nature. He would serionslv advert to the point which the Hon.
Member had raised with reference to the delays which they were
said to have occasioned to this measure. Such delays
would most unquestionably scrieu,ly impede any benefit which
might arise to the country by the passing of this measure ;
and, in fact, it would destroy its utility, by the lateness of its
period of passing. Fie had risen to entreat the House to faci-
litate as much •
as possible the passing of this measure, as he
was coot dent, from the feelieg mani!ested by all the interests
likely to be affected by its passing, that its early conversion
into a law would be most acceptable to the country at large.
Mr. P. BOR,TH WICK said that the Hon, Member who
had just sat down had commenced his observations by stating
that the manufacturing and commercial classes had not been
represented in this discussion, or in the debate of that evening.
lie was confident that there was not a person who had the in-
terests of the agricultural and manufacturing population more
at heart than the Noble Lord who had addressed the House
at some length that evening ( Lord George Bentinck).
and he was also confident that there was not a man who bet' tr
de.,erved the esteem of that class of people. If it was for any
class at all that Honourable Gentlemen sat in that House to
legislate, it was fur the class of men described by Air. Burke,
eho called them labourers, and said that they were miscalled
poor men as it was for their benefit that struggles had al-
ready been made, and in spite of opposition their interests
would not be lost sight of. The Noble Lord (the Member for
Lynn) had proved himself the decided friend of the people,
and therefore it was chat he (Mr. Peter Borthwick) would
support him in any way the Noble Lord would suggest—
( Hear, hear.) He would take the year from 1734 to 1735,
and he would show what the exports of grain had been in that
year. 'The Hon. Member quoted the different exports of
grain, showing a total of 433,h93 quarters, which he con-
tended was more in proportion than could be shown at the pre-
sent time.

Mr. PLUMPTRE thought that if this discussion had con-
sumed the whole seven years which any one Parliament could
claim, it would not be too much, considering the great in-
terests involved—considering the mercantile interests of the
country, which would be comparatively ruined by this mea--
sure ; and the agricultural interests--in fine—considering
these things, he did not see that they were wrong to
oppose this measure to the utmost. He should, therefore,
give his decided opposition to the Bill.
Dr. BOWRING would wish to define clearly what would
be the effect of hostile tariffs, and as far as his experience and
knowledge went, he should consider that the course of legis-
lature formerly persevered in would be most apt to create an
hostile interest, while the liberal policy of the Right Hon.
Baronet would be as certain to originate friendly relations
between this country and every state in Europe.—( Hear. )
The Right Hon. Baronet's recent propositions had also had
great effect on the Italian Government. The Italians had,
from better experience, begun to see the ruinous effects of pro-
hibitions and fetters on their trade and commerce. Tuscany
had long given a noble example in favour of free trade. The
Right Hon. Gentlemen had, no doubt, visited it, and he would
ask them whether the people of Tuscany were not in a far
more prosperous and happy condition than those where the
old system of prohibition prevailed, The value of land, too,
in Tuscany, and all other countries where the free trade prin-
ciples prevailed, was more valuable than in other countries
where those principles had not been introduced. Even in
Spain there was a vigorous movement at this moment in favour
of free trade. The Right Hon. Baronet was showing the
world that he could compete with hostile tariffs by his Pea
trade measures. England was now giving a practical lesson
to the world. They had been told to cure themselves of their
own diseases, and they were doing so.—( Hear, hear, and
laughter.) And while the opinion of the country was
strengthening the arms of the Government, the result would
be a great extension of our commerce, and the increase of our
wealth and happiness.—( Hear, hear. )
Colonel SIBTHORP said, that the Hon. Member who
hld just sat down, and who had already received a sum of
13,500!. as a commercial traveller in favour of free trade,
and was no doubt looking forward for a similar situation to
what he held a few years ago, and that was probably the
reason of his earnest advocacy of the Right Hon. Baronet's
measures.—(Laughter.) Why did not the Hon. and Learned
Gentleman at once go over to the Ministerial benches, in sup-
port of the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government.
—( Hear, hear.) Truth would prevail—( Opposition cheers)—
and every day would show that the arguments of the Noble
vLeorrnrndtehn.
foretl'le(mHbeearr,hear,a andat h u
Lynn were based on truth. If he wished
to look for suffering perfidy and apostacy in this world, he had
oily to look at the Right lieu. Baronet at the head of the Go-
to remind the Hon.
Member for Lambeth (Mr. Hawes), who said that the manu-
facturing people were universally in favour of free trade, that
they were not the only interests concerned in these measures—
the agriculturists were surely entitled to be heard.—( Hear,
hear.) If the malt duty were repealed, and the excise duties
were taken away, the Government would act justly by the
agricultural interest. He considered that the simplification of
the revenue, which was daily taking place, would be most bene-
ficial. He could not, however, shut his eyes to the fact that the
lessons which the Government were teaching the masses,
namely by association, they would gain whatever they demanded.
The Hon. and Learned Doctor said that the loss of Canada would
even be better than not to have free trade; but he considered
that that would ba paying a little too dear for their whistle.
He would record his vote against the measure, as he considered
it fraught with danger to the country.
Mr. HUDSON denied that the reduction in silk which had
taken place added to the comforts of the labouring classes ;
and this was sorely the great test of the benefit which they
would have concurred. With regard to the timber duties, he
objected to the reduction, as it would go entirely to the bene-
fit of the foreigner and not the home consumer. It was no-
torious that railways consumed a vast quantity of timber.
Well, the duty had been taken off of it. Who were to be
benefited? Why, the foreigner. But it was equally no-
torious that a greater quantity of bricks were used; but am
duty was removed from them ; if theithad been it would have
benefited the home producer, and thin have given greater em-
ployment. He considered the measure most impolitic, and
he, if the question came to a division, would give his vete
against it.
Lord GEORGE BENTINCK then withdrew his amend-
ment.

The report was then received.
Sir ROBERT PEEL intimated that at five &dock this day
he would take the third reading of the Bill.
The House having gone into Committee on Sir Henry Her-
dinge's Annuity Bill,
Sir A. L. HAY moved, in Committee on Viscount Har-
dinge's Annuity Bill, that the annuity to Henry Viscount Har-
dinge become payable during his life, irrespective of any grant
by the East India Company.
Sir ROBERT PEEL desired that there should be unani-
mity upon the subject, and recommendod the withdrawal of the
motion.

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he saw no reason why
to Maynooth, and other absurdr gnrtant
a originally proposed to Lord
they should refuse to givoetth
oef ga British House of Commons
Hardinge. The conduct Colonel SIBTHORP said as tbeysbad given away 30,000 .
would be extremely mean and unworthy of Englishmen to
refuse such a grant.
Di rd.
CURTEIS was one of those Englishmen who
refuse such a grant. In the present state of the
country,
it was wrong to press on the Government to confer it.
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Lord Hardinge had already been amply provided for, and he
resist every attempt to force the Government to make
ant under such circumstances. Had the East India
would
this grant
Cernpan y 'sot proposed the annuity which they did, the case of
course-would be very different, and the gallant officer would be
entitled to recieve recognition of their services.
Sir ROBERT PEEL did not take credit from the pre-
sent state of the . country to justify him in refusing
the grant originally proposed by the Government. He
refuseduponitipte the prccedent. The Duke of Wellington was
treated e same principle, and so was Lord Combermere
He hoped the House would be of opinion that the grant of the
East India Company was in accordance with the mode of that
public body, subject to the sanction of Parliament.
- After a few words from Sir A. Leith Hay, Capt. Harris, and
Mr. Hogg,
The gallery was then ordered to be cleared, but no division
took place.
The Bill was then agreed to.
LORD GOUGH'S ANNUITY BILL.
The House then resumed, and immediately afterwards went
into Committee on Lord Gough's Annuity Bill, which was
passed thiongh Committee w izliout opposition.
The House having also gone into Committee on the Explo-
sive Substances Bill,
Mr. CURTEIS objected to clause 8, which inflicted the
punishment of flogging. It had a degrading and demoralising
effect. The clause permitted three inflictions of the lash, and it
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a powerful effect in stopping crime of that description.
The Bill then went through, Committee without further op-
position.
The other orders of the d;• y were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at Halt-past One o'clock.

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FREE-TRADE DIVISIONS:
(FROSI A CORRESPONDENT.)
The numbers on the 27th of February (the let division)
stood thus:—
For free trade, including tellers
Against ditto, ditto
Abi.,ent
Vacant (13ridoort, Mayo, North and South Notts) 4
Speaker
Sudbury

Of the 70 absentees odo
24 have since voted for free-trade
16 ft against „
In the 4 vacancies
2 free-traders and 2 anti-free-traders have been elected.
The numbers therefore stand thus :
For. Against.
339 242
24

260 =l-.
Absent ... 30
Speaker 1
Sudbury 2

Majority
The changes since the first division have been
Rich v. Colborne deceased
Milton, Viscount, v. Childers, vacated
Lincoln, Earl, v. Baird, vacated
Rotnilly v. Cochrane, unseated,
All of whom voted for free trade.
The thirty gentlemen who have not ventured to record
their opinions, and of whom 16 are Irish Members, are—
Ashley Hon. IL . Dorchester
Barneby, J.
Barnard, Viscount ..
Berkeley, Hon. G.
Blake, Sir V Galway
Bodkin, J. J Galway County
Callaghan, D Cork
Frcncb, F.
Grattan, H.....

Hamilton, C. J. B Aylesbury
Hampden Renn
Hardy, John Bradford
Hepburn, Sir T.
ffaspy, A
Kerr. D. 5..... Dow)liatrick
L;nds.iy, If. H. ... sandwich
Listowel', Earl o' St. Albans
Maher, N.
• Nichal, Dr.
O'Brien, Cornelius
O'Brien, William Smith Limerick county
Roche, E. B Cork county
Sheil. Right Hon. Lalor Dungarvon
Standish, C.
Stuart, W. V. .. Waterford county
Talbot, C. R. M G lamorganshire
Trite, H. M Westmeath
Vern as, Captain .. Fifeshire
Westenra, Hon. J. C.... King's county
White, H.
Those in italics are Conservatives.
The following have contented themselves with voting in
the minority on the first division :
Acton, Colonel Hoskins, K.
Attwood, Matthias Howard, Hon. H. Liberal&
Brooke, Sir A. Martin, T. B.
Bruce, C. L. A. Price, R.
Banbury-, T. Pusey, P.
Flulliott, J. Vesev, Hon. T.
Hayes, Sir E. Well.iy, G. E.
Martin, G. Wyndham, Col. C.
The following appear to have deserted from the Protec-
tionist camp, as their names, though appearing in the mino-
rity on the divisions of the 27th of February and 27th of
March, are not to be found in the third division list of the
15th of May :
Acland, Sir T. D.
Baring, T.
Bateson, T.
Bruges, W. L.
Castlereagh, Viscount
Colvile, C.
Coote, Sir C.

DtiprZ, C. G.
Hodgson, B.
• Leslie, C. P.
Maclean, D.
Sheridan, R. B. (Liberal).
W 3 nn, Sir W. W.

ABSENT.—CONSERVATIVES.
Acland, Sir T. D. Hardy, J.
Acton, Colonel Hayes, Sir E.
Ashley, Hon. 11. Hepburn, Sir T. B.
Attwood, John Hodgson, R.
Attwood, M. Hornby, J.
Baillie, IL J. Hussey, A.
Baldwin, C. B. Ker, D. S.
Baring, T. Kirk, P.
Barneby, J. Leslie, C. P.
Bateson, T. Lindsay, H. H.
Bernard, Lord Maclean, D.
Brooke, Sir A. Marton, G.
Bruce, C. L. C. Nichol', Right lion. J.
Bruges, W. H. L. Oswald, A;
Banbury, T. Pracd, W. T.
Castlereagh, Viscount Price, R.
Colvile, C R. Pusey, P.
Coote, Sir C. H. Vesey, Hon. T.
Dupre, C. G. Welby, G. E.
Egerton, Lord F. 'Whitmore, T. C.
Folliott, J. Wortley, Hon. J. S.
Hamilton, C. J. B. Wyndham, Colonel C.
Hampden, B. Wynn, Sir W. W.
ABSENT.—LIBERALS.
Berkeley, Hon. Grantley F. O'Brien, J.
Blake, Sir V. O'Brien W S.

Bodkin, J. S.
Buller, E. _

Callaghan, D.
Clements, Lord
Corbally, M. E.
Dawson, Hon. T. V.
Dundas, Admiral
Ellice, .lE., jun.

O'Connell, M.
O'Ferrall, R.M.

Osborne, Captain B.
Oswald, J.
Philips, M.
Power J.
Price, Sir R.
Pryse, P.

Redington, T.N.
Roche, E. B.
Shell, Right Hon. R. L.
Shelburne, Earl of
Sheridan, R.B.
Standish. C.
Stanley, Hon. W. 0.
Stuart, W. V.
Talbot, C. R. M.
Tuite, H. M.
WemysF, Captain
Westenra, Hon. Col. J. C.
White, S.
White, H.

Ellis, V.
Fitzgerald, R. A.
French, F.
Grattan, 11.
Hoskin•, K.
Howard, lion. Captain
Kelly, J.
Langton, W. G.
Listowel, Earl of
Maenainara, Major
Maher, N.
Martin, T. B.
Maule, Right Hon. F.
O'Brien, T.
O'Brien, C.
For the third reading, tellers included 829
E.:I- the amendment, tellers included 231

THE MINORITY-NO:

English county Members ...
English borough Members
English university Members
Welsh. county Members ...
Welsh borough Members ...
Irish county Members ... ...
Irish borough Members ...
Irish university Members ...
Scotch county Members
Scotch borough Members
Isle of Wight Member ...

ES, 231
iConser-
vatives.l

Übe-
rale.

Total.

Total.