The Sun.
London, England, 1846-07-28 00:00:00

RAILWAY.

On the bringing up of the report on this Bill,
Mr. E. BULLER entered into a lengthened statement
of the position of the company, and pointed out to the
House that in the early stages of the Bill the promoters
were desirous of introducing a clause allowing them to
take high and extravagant fares, but the Committee to
whom the Bill was referred, and of which he was chair •
man, refused to sanction the clause, and an adjournment
took place to enable the parties to reconsider their
position. At the expiration, however of the ad-
journment, the parties declined to make any altera-
tion in their rates and charges, and the Committee
thereupon determined to make a special report to the
House. recommending the House not to allow the Bill
to proceed further He moved that the report be con-
sidered that day six months.
Mr. GREENE said that the Committee, having
passed the Bill, recommended that the Bill ought not to
be passed.—(Hear, hear.) The Committee had no power
to alter the tolls, but the Committee, being aware
of their want of power, compel the company
to come before Parliament to sanction the tolls.
The preamble had been proved, and the standing orders
had been complied with, but of what purpose was that,
since the Committee did not wish to sanction that upon
which they were not called upon to determine. Now
he, therefore, rose to defend the decision of the Com-
mittee, but not the recommendation contained in the
report. '
Mr. AGLIONBY said that the Hon. Member for
Lancaster (Mr. Greene) had stated very fairly that it
was extremely natural for him to support his consti-
tuents' views. The Hon. Member supported the views
of a canal in which his constituents were interested.
But whilst it was natural for the Hon. Member to sup •
port the views of his constituents, it was also natural to
the . Members of that House to support the
views and interests of the public ; and he (Mr.
Aglionby) considered that they would be supporting the
interests of the public by agreeing to the motion of the
Hon. Member, the chairman of the Committee to whom
this Bill was referred. That committee were unanimously
of opinion that the tolls proposed to be charged by this
railway company were far too high, and after having de-
sired the promoters to reconsider their Bill they still re•
fused, and as long as they had so conducted themselves
he thought that the House were perfectly justified in
saying to them, "If you refuse to reduce the tolls to a
moderate and reasonable rate, you must seek some other
remedy; you must withdraw your Bill."
Mr. B. ESTCOURT spoke, but, from the confusion
which prevailed in the House, his observations did not
each the gallery.
WWr a few words from Mr. E. BULLER,
The House then divided, when there appoared.....
For the adoption of the report 6
For the amendment 7l

Majority for the amendment... —65
The report was consequently lost.
LONDON AND SOUTH-WESTERNItArtirA‘Y.
The Z 134 of IaCOLN mond that tae Committee

on the London and South-Western Railway (London"
bridge Extension) Bill, have leave to report forthwith
and that the standing orders, Nos. 119. 120, and 13?'
be suspended, and the said report be taken into consi-
deration on Tuesday, if the amended prints have bee?
deposited with the door-keepers at least the day prey'
ous.—Agreed to.
NOTICES OF MOTION.
Mt, SHARMAN CR AWFORD gave notice that.
the motion for going into Committee on the Rateable
Properties (Ireland) Bill being made, he should wove
that it be an instruction to the Committee to Teske
provision that the county and poor-rate be levied ups
the same valuation instead of two separate valuatiot
provided by the present Bill ; also that landlords
be
made chargeable to the county-rate in the same pror
tion that they were liable to pay for the poorerate.
Mr. HUME gave notice, that to-morrow week be
should move a resolution to the effect, that to prefs
drunkenness and intemperance amongst the working;
classes, it was the duty of the Legislature to leo,
the British Museum, the National Gallery, and sin
public places on Sundays, at such hours after morienel
service that gin palaces and public-houses were alloy(
to be open.—(Hear.)
THE STATE PAPERS. quite
Mr. E. DENISON wished to know whether the
Papers could be put in a more convenient form for std
than they were at present He found that the es,lliebst
for printing a volume (Class A), was 5741., an°
the expense of nrinting 2,000 copies was over 4,000,,
Lord PALMERSTON said that the subject haott;.,
copied his attention., and that .he did hope,,nezt
Uv gl be'ae to have thi.m put in a much smaller form.
COURT OF COMMON PLEAS. bet
Mr. STUART WORTLEY desired to know to
l;ajestv's Government intended to take any mess°
for opening the Court of Common Plea'.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL said that he could nee
pledge himself to pass any measure this session, b,140
would do the utmost to pass such a measure which
considered to be most ueeful and necessary.
THE WELLINT4TON STATUE. too
On the motion of Sir F. TRENCH. a copy °„f fei,
report from the sub-Committee or the Wellington the
tary Memorial, inclosed in the letter from his Grace De,
Duke of Rutland, IC.G., to the Viscount Melb°ll,re,
dated 14th of January, 1839, was ordered to be
sented to the House.
SUPPLY OF FOOD IN IRELAND. '
In reply to Mr. O'CONNELL, t said 110
The CHANCELLOR .4 the EXCHEQUER sa.---,„ ett
the people in the distressed districts of Ireland had
relieved by means of employment given by the
and also by the people in their immediate neight,l
hoods. Government had also furnished supplies of
at a cheap rate in various parts of Ireland. iI tvoci
curred in what the Hon. and Learned Gentlemun„e
said about the beneficial effects of the
forded to Ireland, for, from all accounts"e''be
he had had the opportunity of seeing sine he
had the I,onour to hold the situation he then filleofitef
was impressed with the beneficial effect of that ref',
in saving the .people from the evil of famine and
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serving the peace of the country. It must at the tt
time be observed, that much as the measure mig' tot
beneficial in affording a temporary relief, it must rat
be imagined that it was to become a pert"9"fif
system, and thus induce the people to - r..ce
on the Government permanently for food, for sup.
a feeling would be a great evil to the country• of
some parts that feeling was already beginning to g:ei
-up,-and therefore the Government, thinking it net° the
to mark that it was not its intention to continue, be
system, had given instructions that the supply was ""
It
rtopped as much as possible on the 15th of August' 00
was at first the intention to stop the suPl9ll de3
the Ist of August, but that period was ceten De
'to the -15th, in order that there might be asl
pressure on the people. The Commissary-Genii-0,
in Cork had written a letter to ,to
a part of Which he would take the liberty of readiel'd
the -House.- It, was dated-the 12th of July, and 9fts,, oil
that considerable consignments 'of-Indian corn wee ere
their way from England to that country. There „oes
half a dozen vess‘ls in the port, and if their eer'psil
were left much longer on board, they would ;ler)
from the heat. He (the Chancellor of the Exehecl, 1.4
felt that they must be unwilling to land their cargoelbe
they could not • enter into competition with hirer
Government,' but if the Government reduced its ate oft
it would give an opportunity for private enterprise to P
food into the country.
as tow
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present time. Before the middle of Septembefforthe
might find that the measure was still as neeessarlltestli
preservation of the people from famine as it had 9'
been. u"
Mr. HUME-wished to know whether theresc9„rsifti
any objection on the part of the Government to: rit,
a return of the amount which bad been exprndea_,d
lief of the Irish people—in money, in provisions, ere
work. It was desirable that they should have b
turn placed on the table, to know whether it We'
be necessary still to go on affording relief. Chao
Mr. P. SCROPE was desirous of asking the betbfr
arxr ectllhiyee
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par
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aavo
rarqtdtleuyecasobnt
niyyot
rngie,brxuapnt It 'was
infwear
.toa: stro:frowbri
„I.oeoftbflAni
cellos"i
Tv it
hwr meritas
h oha ri
s theaintentionnd pE
mode in which the people of Ireland heal heen "ee, I 'v'
uattiioxniosuswteorekntoow
tshvaoss,est!ptlit: amyoe'll.e
cob pr
ntributions
or the ,lt
vote individuals • - ortion't? the ivre,
tr,aibsin order to know whether the jr.eldiefbaffit.ral‘e'e:-, of
was at all in Pr°P they- „ie
these individualsproperty which
sessed? The re privy
details were su bed,PP in order to know whether p
contributions were at all equal to the distresses to
relieved,
sfied unless Vl' e
tt
Mr. F. FRENCH said that 1.00,000 L bad the
counties in Ireland, in order to be si.PPurr?lePs.reA;nri
placed at ther dils-ptetsoaulldonfottbhee sl:rieasurers ortisto,
under the present Tenant and Grand
No part of that he found was in existence at thePbed
moment. The distress was still great, and he o'l for be
know really whether all had been distributed,
could scarcely credit that it had been so. ssit!
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEO'4 r
with regard to the question of the Hon. Oczn-0.01_4°
Montrose, he had no objection to make thi? eri,
quired, and he was also perfectly ready to -uu
the table of the House an account of private °,4.113s
butions, but he was not prepared to say that he, to
give the names of the contributors, specifYiliPbet/
amount they had subscribed. He might renaurl', bev
ever, that the landed interest of Ireland genera: r9;si
come forward and liberally assisted Government to
lieving the distress of that country. With regtly:to,
is
last question of the llon. Member behind k'd
begged to state that the' whole of the 100,000/. nee tai
fully distributed, as well as 30,0001. more t11)„,0 Atir
second Act passed this session. He could as9r
House that the attention of Government b
all
closely directed to the state of the crnr
Ireland. They received reports from 9.,1
il ;Of
of Ireland day by day, and the attention of GoVerfosts;
was constantly directed to the subject. He
however, that Government would never be ca „9 over
to take measures to avert any coming evil, but
theless they should be prepared to act with vigour Ow
Mr. HORSMAN wished to ask the Noble L sub
First Lord of the Treasury whether, in case thesetOP
resolutions passed, they would take effect without
Pam
1,1 for the Bill to pass?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL was understood to "aor
he intended to take the same course that Was P
with respect to the corn-laws
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THE SUGAR DUTIES.
A number of petitions were presented for and °:10
the Proposed Gov-rnment measure in regard ~
sugar duties. Amongst others (11'
Mr. GIBSON - - i 0

presente4. a petition from terd
rectors of' the Commercial Association of Manche_.o,B tiOP
favour of the proposed Government measure resflito;,'
sugar, arid praying that the Measure May paSs-ihr°llAote''
Mr. HOPE presented a retition from 31sno.cote,;
against the proposed Government scheme respeetTbreog,d
The petitioners prayed that no measure would tbs.;
the sanction of the House which would not 3116;001
time to procure additional labour for their plan efile
and which would not permit them to compete °n toads
terms with sugar admitted for the use of home ,
spirits. he io
Mr. MACAULAY presented a petition from a oe
habitants of Edinburgh, in favour of the proP°Ee
sure respecting sugar. orderge
Lord JOHN RUSSELL having moved the oil
the day for the House resolving itself into sec°
of Ways and Means on the Sugar Duties, ofifj%
Lord G. BENTINCI: rose and said, that in olds 0
the resolution which was in the Speaker's int„el3 tteci;
an amendment to his' i
bilfehialadil
lvtuyeilnngogerni
bnct heteoienlcfahunbalteihrrae,
dhvhokaillte:sl;l4:66o
ptnloi(en)
itwfnehhtleeti rldmteleroeehptsielt'illaots.hfkehetandrdeoss great mercantile s ecelsq c Its:
cEoaanvserti e
acatnetdl
less ‘wVieatshbtl
etlhneaddisevisca),:east
en d that otherP g re: t
hregretted that on this occasionnhetthioiAesefriicniistnaer-sateesveißri°l3:osl64
they
hileeadfeltof
abte fore.
t,he confident otfhtahtat
Governmenthis
Noble gife
would t P be
himal!!
credit fin' truth when ho s3ici
td
brought f.rward this motion with no hostile feel; ill
wards her Mijesty's Ministers.—(Hear, hear.) PA
an ocv
occaion, the question of the sugar c.luties ofitle,g
of slavery had been mixed up with a vote of c
in her Majesty's Ministers, but he could trulY to 57,
on this occasion, though he did not leetr,,sloloo
that he could place his confidence in her aleies:'s)
tors, it was not his intention to mix up with th!
so
.00
any considerations of confidence in her Ntik? 001
u cl alb
of Indeed, he felt that, 0 -got , jett
of such great interests as those of the ;no Yiwee,
West India planters, and above all on a questriottp
concerned the liberty and happiness of the Al estion Abe
it would not be proper to mix up with this clu hod,
_Jr
party consideration. But while, on the 011 F _ 0,014
disclaimed introducing any motion hostile to ticks whw)
ment, he must vindicate himself from the
tileart
had been made upon him and his party.—‘,. wee° 5
He could not deny, and he did not siaveg,jeo;
deny, that the effect of the emancipation West cr
dorifY,
very much to diminish the produce of the „5.,00
he could not deny that whilst, for some y,eieyeelP9oo
the six years previous to the emancipation el s n 190, the
West Indies, the average produce was bet sine sine, to
and 200,000 tons of sugar. That producttp.ofeanno oiled
emancipation of slaves was completed, e%ce of
such an extent that at one period it 0; „vac hue
170,000 tons, whilst it was admitted that frt.„d
the West Indies did not exceed 145,000:futr2is f.a/_1117.5
manner it was the natural consequence °;Efear, 121,0,
off in sugar that the prices had risen.---oi. of pr
attaer, hear.o,
to
He found, when he took the the
which had been furnished to °liiioug
oetu, tbe
Grocers' Company, that the six yea_ryse,
_rearvrs gn 5 100
emancipation of slaves, and- the- twell jic, lei 14„ii
average difference of the prices had Denindfial
the two
151. pez GWt. Lie lad WA 7.7._ • •