The Sun.
London, England, 1846-03-04 00:00:00

SHIPPING DUES.

Mr. HUME moved for an account of the aggregate receipt
at every port, harbour, and creek in the United Kingdom, in
the year 1845, of the harbour and shipping charges, stating
the several heads of such income ; and also an account of the
aggregate expenditure for the same year, stating the same
under the several heads of expenditure in the year 1845 (in
continuation of Parliamentary Paper No. 571, of Session
1845), which was agreed to.
PETITION OF THE SIIIPOWNERS OF LONDON.
On the motion of Mr. W. BARING (in the absence of
Lord John Russell), the petition of the shipowners of the port
of London, in favour of the proposed measure relative to the
timber duties, was ordered to be printed with the votes.
PETITIONING THE HOUSE.
Mr. NEWDEGATE rase to amend the notice of motion
which he submitted to the House last night, respecting
an instruction to the Committee appointed to inquire into the
way in which the petition from Cheltenham in favour of the
repeal of the corn-laws had been got up. His amended
motion was to the following effect That it be an instruction
to the Select Committee on the petition from Cheltenham, that
they do inquire whether forged objections have not been served
upon certain electors for the northern division of the county of
Warwick, against the claims of the said electors late retained
upon the register of the said division of the said county."
He said he had been induced to alter his original motion, in
consequence of information which he had received imme-
diately subsequent to bringing forward his motion last night,
and which was to the effect, that the system of which he
complained prevailed to a great extent in North
Warwickshire, and North Staffordshire, as well as
in •other districts. He thought it his duty to 'propose
this additional instruction to the Committee, because he felt
himself agrieved, in common with those who entertained similar
opinions to himself, and because he represented those who had
been most unjustly attacked on account of their being in favor
of the maintenance of protection.—( Hear.) When it was con-
sidered that the Hon. Member f,,r Cheltenham (Mr. C.
Berkeley) was totally opposed to hint on the score of polities,
and that he had first brought the subject before
the House, they would acquit him of any intention to
cast additional unnecessary labour on the Committee.
Ile could not divest himself of the statement which was made
by the Right Hon. Baronet the First Lord of the Treasury,
that it was not a question well worthy the consideration of the
House. The Right Hon. Baronet the other night, when a
question was raised with reference to the alleged interference
of Peers in Parliamen., induced his Honourable Friend op.
posite (Mr. Collett? to withdraw that motion, because
he stated that if their influence was traced, it may be found
not more than was used by roller parties. It hail ever been the
Practice of that House to consider, where grounds were sup-

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posed to exist, whether any undue influence had been get
'eet
in the election of Members, and he thought it rietestee
such should be continued by the present tribunel•sPeea'
It was eonsidered that the real contest took place tharee
tration courts which decided the fate of the electionee 400
he considered it was the duty of that House to inqanket
the conduct and practices of such Courts. 'The I'4
Honourable Baronet thought right to esPii the
the - battle of the elections were fought
introdurs
Registration Courts, and this induced him to
some instructions to the Committee. He trusted that teeeuee
duct on that occasion could be fully justified, fur be
ota.Vcr
he could be able tee prove to them that no light greeetio„,
doubtful evidence had induced him to make the present motto„,
He stated that a great number of objections bad beet; wee
on voters of the north division of Warrington, inosteoi _
'
failed on the merits, and he had also stated that the
eterees
markable of these transactions occurred in the Ileg",dit
Court at Birmingham. He could then assure the Heeeefee
no less than 700 electors had been served with netiereni the
jection in two parishes of that district, and in BirilliteEt.etece
number was so great—over 30,0e0—that the r" rot
could. not be cleared of them for several-00100e
these. had all been served at the eat bode
of the Anti-Corn-law League, and on behalf of turose
There were three names which he could mention ass wed
connected with that body; and if he could prove, as,l,ea eer
he could, their connexion with the present praeteeee Go'
plained of, no douht could remain on the minds of Tee
tlemen•
that it , was through the agency of the
seed'
Corn-law League, that such objections cveren
verso
The objections were served indiscriminately, and o,
of property to a large amount. But those
selected ,from those voters who resided or were at the
at the greatest distance from the northern division _
wickshire. This system was adopted in order that Melting t:
objectelle tee
inconvenience might result to the parties in atteelete
fee
maintain their votes in the registration courts..serlithelee
who signed those objections was a man named "°, level
who was possessed of no property, and was alnles‘,_e eee
for his daily meal and subsistence. In proof of ties %este;
state that the man, upon being threatended with Pry No Pi
for his conduct, declared that he was not worth 51-Objectiosr
wished to know if the House intended to allow suet' enetbe'i
as these to be continued, or would they not rather inteers-osteer
authority and protect the franchise from this velateol'
On Willliam Worthington being subsequently askell, repl;6l
he had told the witness Stafford to write like hita,,elisebet
not; but he admitted, after some hesitation, that hererel teo
him a written notice, signed by his own hand, and neared
all the rest should be signed in the same Inallortios'e
He would now explain °to the House why a larfee efeeteej
these objections were forged. He held in his hide keep
prove that the objections were generally those of thlselt A,
a "pop" shop. This man had grossly perjured lertil,
was over and over again asked if the signature Wat' eis
ton was his, and he as many times, °PI lathe
declared that it was not ; and yet subsequent eas o,
was produced who stated that the writing e ebe
This evidence applied to five or six hundred noti.ede;esi tee
after such evidence, he (Mr. Newdegate) con''„ ebjeeete
there could be little doubt as to the character of teere 0,11.1
but he wished to show the House that it was still ftee. see '0„
nary that they should enter into an investigation; is cesie
objector had foresworn himself—and his evidencee este,eo
quence ought not to have been received--teer cee
decided on admitting his evidence in other
s'es
where objections had been taken. He would OW Leg dpi
sion to trace this system to the eAnti-Cornslaw es°,ol
leading member of whom publicly boasted that the (or a fee
the franchise—a noble object were it net carried oat
tei,e,ore
spirit, and for party purposes—in favour of a hod,' soot;
as much a commercial project as a politieal ;esote
If such inroads were to be made upon the claims °e
were fully entitled to the franchise—if such s sYs,try s'; to
he carried on, the electors of any part of the e°l3,roaeee
be disfranchised. He called upon the Right ll°. eel, elloolth,,
assist this inquiry, and by so doing put a stop to soet es
lions. He told the Hon. Member for Stockport,i t 00ei
he might treat the present question. as a lig 'ersee is)
such practices as he had detailed to the
had their weight with the Government.---(ne'befoeeel
He hoped the Right. Hon. Baronet would Pau' es s.oPie
allowed such practises to be passed over unnoticed•
roeceice
to have this a fair Committee ; he was himself a I:st Pee;
and he did not wish, to have any gentleman di 'ti.C'fre;tC'
it, nor would he allow any Member of the Acre ittrehe
League to be on the inquiry. He would not $.,
bon
tbo
one
as a question between the protectionists and trio, that „elit
e
side, but he considered it should be entertained qteCereern?
as a question between the Government and the .neese
League. The Hon: Member concluded by 11301'n°
4hl
it
ment of which he had given notice. to smog
Mr. REDHEAD YORKE was underetood
whose instructions the Honourable Member hi'
amendment? lig et 4
to°
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE admitted that it was lleoess,;,,
a case consisting of rerjury, and a very veaseeeese
serving notices by some agent of the Anti C°'", „et ueeee,
Admitting the whole facts of the case, be colt, eorsre
A „
what the House had to do with the question. AOC,
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had been appointed to inquire into the breach et Pieltiteresei
reference to the forgery of certain nameeto 17
means of which the House had been teiniet
therefore, a breach of its privileges- erese„-erls,'';
not see that the present charges were of Seosle
privileges. With reference to the ehareeee eve',
that is a case for another tribunal. The snesteed e'ee„,'
notices was not a breach of the privileges. oe ed ,v;tl
what offence it was, it was a very vexatious -of the fly
system to the electors that was the fault howeee,reelletesP;
of registration. That system he had found fatats„,sol)l th
over again. But Hon. Members opposite were 3111,.' fit': 11'
their registration. They now began fe be
inconvenience which had so long be- -thela tote," e
the electors of boroughs. Now dowser eer
to feel it in the counties. Hon. Members ea° eis°
House to complain of the system. If the goltiee
moved for a Committee to inquire into the w )
registration, and into the operation of the Reform to sere,
finality clauses, he should have been blifestetPd
assisted them to the utmost of his potver• eeld sly he
He hoped, therefore, that the Government Gould
Atte, ;
their support to the motion of the Hon. Alen' cotswcil.
consented to be one of the members of the eretra:l
htlehe ischi
ihoountlhd. petitioneAdieecml
rbi Member
rt fromos hsoe,r,vl
deC,bhieef
referredttehn eh Cheltenham had
ithtoiaodntahbleecLuu.t...:riptorcrocii,3•ol)o,„l
Mr. NEWDEGATE said the Hon. Mernbe-,00,,,i'd
had asked him why they did not proceed st
against the parties whom he (Mr. Newdeeateescel"ol
outraged the privileges of that House ? Senelle tePeferee
of them had any wish to prosecute the enhaPPeesi reee'e
organised system of annoyance to which heale e see
He did not seek for a Committee to inquire in'wotri!ch
the Reform Bill or into the registration of the e°ieeb
Ie
wished for a Committee to inquire into the "oho they
iss
natures were attached to these petitions, and 00`or
were who thus interfered with the registration,. wee, Oet
Mr. ADDELEY thought that the subject f t'ese,,,e,
by the Honourable. Member should beereferreu
a WI AV?
mittee on the Cheltenham petition, leeeatieeet t'etrie/
analogy between them. It was right atee reeeetojei
mittee appointed to inquire into t,'e.„4olr6,oo,ird
in Manchester of Cheltenham petitions ghoul" :I to P; tette es
subject also.—( Hear, hear.) He was prepare..„ ;00
the privileges of electors had be'eisse- fere e
with in North Staffordshire, and that,. tter„.ee tett'
the subject was german to the el,lestee;
to the Cominittee, and that they ought to e,°' 0 ee Wee
Bill had been drawn up by an Hon. Feientoo tebeletitjet
whichhe believed would shortly be introeueee eeeeeere
The Hon. Member then read extracts froen $ the e'o,lle
House from North Staffordshire, which were, for seBe-00 0,
although the petitioners had been registers a 'ye liBo bar o'
and although their qualification to vote was vie otesbi $OOO,
locality, that 20,000 frivolous objections to theirienejest!etel,
served upon them and others ; that they were seveetetier ,
habitant of the county, but that they e
had leeeeene ferteeee ice(
chester—(Loud protectionist cheers.) "'Pe el' fro°, VT
that they were thus subjected to considerateevetberete,
annoyance on account of being compelled tote e%t o'
to year at the Registration Courts, in order, read t eiteletor
were entitled to be on the register. flavinthat
the Hon. Gentleman concluded by sayingee do se o
then present the petition, but that he shout" f, rieehie
occasion, when he had a better opportunite. ;est' ;ttee, bet'Mr. WAKLEY said that he did not e°fle'-‘010"e bee tle
just that the petition should be referred to
was appointed for entirely a different purrs" he ° fedi
that the Hon. Gentleman would not press
,eieg et,.
Government would feel the propriety of ler"dorie beer'ete
correction of the system, which could net Alt ogeoblei)U'
clumsy way which was then proposed. It w-ejectio l'evuOf
way of proceeding, and nothing could be more r g stheti' se4
. Join A (1 le
Hon. Gentleman made a motion, and at •h the, lisee,
Wakley) felt that he bad dealt very hardier their 'vise
law League. He stated that a man in th,eithe:,:esse,eou'e
themproved
o House.—(Cries
soe adopted.be— t(abcrefo rsigteasetreomaf nd,nNtas perjurer,
No, no
nioai,
,m)teshves;tiebjetoe
obeeoej;
observe that if what was stated beefereuis o°. o`t„
correct, instead of bringing the case he he, teuliSte,
he ought to have been prosecuted; eee„, nalgsreere
punished at all. It was their (lute reecooref set" tO,
him, bat instead of doing so, they hold oe'e,titiej Oise
men of a similar description to commit senesiderted; bee I'
fences.—( Cries of " No, no.") Ife eeptidisesett"
man's evidence altogether ought to be eaey jO,
esse of
the subject ought to be investigated, as r
eePreeeti te,
attention of the Government. e befer-„eiotedete`er
appointed on
Sir ROBERT PEEL—Sir, I ha' ers
opinion on this subject, in reference to tcorner- ste`olo,oo
tlhsetaptoeidn,t ynefspterridrailye,getratn:i serthe seie
I thought it would be better if it directed its:ititio°;o;citeeOs'
that point, as regarded the Cheltenbani arahereolis
opinion I yesterday pronounced I le°7.oei t° he Alitesiele,
hear.) It is very easy for Hon. Gentee with t. fr.,
it
ations about the connexion of Ministerteeneettery,ooo
Law-league, without having the slight
1,11; all 0;10lies (eo
such—( Hear, hear)—and, perhaps, ar°,ieej to °
there may be many who would feel ine' rather Gellieetee
inferences from our silence. The"%re;eo floTee se e lee
inferences should be drawn, I collectionto torte ter! bey'
that I cannot recall to my re ii..ivate n'th coo
the corn-laws, or any other public . weeefeeoroe
ever, directly or indirectly, emeln.unte'cat bodPeesgso4l
Corl League, or any member oe rere_laweee, o
of "Her.") With regard to the Antee'un eeeatfb, (toffee
other society employing persons
to ren:l?Y °Vote
to the right of certain individuals . „, it, le 1, eel. forego,
can only say if that be so, as it is stere.e ieneueee Ce
I understand my Honourable Friers Zeatiee feL gift
setshire, to say that he formed lee a!reeieri nseleeissi,
and certainly, if the Honourable teens Lee shell ee f
rigs? 00
able le
e fl°°°l3 000 the 0
et
Mr. SPOONER thought th Wee- r
mmyittseuepptooritn.quire into these allegation,
erien. -ad rise. sforeei.l
FFirniesnbdu,ry
the
ead
.Amiaedmebearn
funnrneiveezravriyiekishr,
to.se) otiOdOeki he
whose name his Honourable .
sese we°, teee 4t
ortsee. r,e t ee'ele
House was one of considerable 'l% to °tee. tha„ iesro"
Anti-Choosren.lcaowndLuecatguhee. cl3eultPhiaelan;at 'he que:rhe
ime
the fact of peeing a notice of objeeeetotonseveneen
testimony of its delivery, andth
them to meet the threatened olledaes after e tot
ceived an objection to his vote two
was only by acecid.nt that it rCaChO
eels in tee
°lobo
wero posted too late to reach theoP:ttiotinei. It;iro'-"er'o.:ill6l
was only by accident that it
totterieoBll
tb
too :the
goedingly
to his solicitor.
to whie'd
to the t hi° 'Act
to Sbeir
referred. It must not be confined r GEORGE t
bGel
fEa ;it s
14115° tr I°lo'4
parties who had come before
.ee beecti
He very well remembered wheniet`',ifeceity bathedlle ere
under discussion, that consideeeb
House The
elertela0,011:0
the parties on his side of the .. The Iftwo Yes•to
which might arise on a future peri
.0
ritY, an". eisin'but so
in a min° • ale"' • $ I
he acted were at that these itiore etc he
t 01)Pc' itew be oi
eee great difficti
.Uhat petition had experien
bviating seen ; Adeeireritel
minority had been desirous of
thoughttbthtiaiet
presented a petition with a.v.ieow
likely to arise from the mooting, we,
c 0..,
it xtic,.
then, as a member of that party:
same d,T
_o's;o
is.;
et;
settling the whole rinciple. eeeesite,.beeeviey to
tut:e.s
nom, but the Hon. Gentlemen PP
the m_tent °OlOOl
themselves, were desirous of e
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melts'-
now before the House. Bat h. c" g
the that -e- woe
tbe
g.t esoa'
extended to the whole eubteet• eye vs he
Lord Seenoreand Mreerstsese, eats s
.over‘i e
ment, and _after .callf:t ott.%
position, because he still eoriceiv

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