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London, England, 1846-02-18 00:00:00

to that produce, a great deficiency was occasionedby the evil
Of absenteeism. By the union, a large mass of the rich proprie•
tors have ben induced to leave the , and as muh as front t
. wo to tehree millions of money havecountr beyen abstracted from
it
gashome market. In fact, the home market, he might say,
not only impaired but destroyed; and until they could re-
Nl, to Ireland the advantage which that country had
'oyed by the residence of rich proprietors, they would
the it unable to enter into any sufficient competition
ofe the manufacturers of England, and all their
irrts to remedy the distress would be ineffectual.
peld_ this was done they could not expect her manufactures
revive. The cause of the population of that country not
tip employed was because their absentee landlords were con-
llly
e,Mari drainin
g her of her resources. If they meant to revive
frilnfactures of Ireland, they must stop the drain on her
q'tla by the absentee landlords. They should opts hat drain,
it: should remember that there was a drain on the capital of
lortis°°°hlrat of four millions and a half by the absentee land-
How would that act against this country? Would they
Ituedllwe Want and misery staring them in the streets,
This
QM not the country cry
tint against so great an evil?
p: from Ireland could be changed by the Legislature. But
oL'lrere other drains from that country ; there was a sum of
leoZut taken annually from her in the shape of a ground-rent
rae when they spoke of the Government grants and the ad-
lsoatcr to Ireland, and when they made, he would not say a
arm of it, but when they made a public declaration of those
yoepts. had they not a right to say, Look at the conduct of
Illesett°°°trY to us during the last century and a half." Let
"fie retaember the language of Huskisson. When speaking
traprfshfferings of Ireland, he described them. a; the result. of
%err% e°t legislation, and the great drain which was made on
feet of the country. It might not be in their power
.to
they L.llthe evils that have pressed Ireland at once, but this,
%ti it in their power to do. They could prevent. this
Peered kled drain upon her resources, for how could it be ex-
ef ,6 that the ca ital reMaining in Ireland could be in a state
circtdpation, when a constant. amount of eight or
they I.ens was annually derived from that country, for which
Wiete,Tred nothing in return. It was with the body politic
Nees,`sue human body—if the blood were gone, could t
ukty drains
the body would maintain a healthy action ? and if
that co.„"ed the resources of a country, could they expect that
WthientrY would imrove its condition ? flow was this state
besses-°' to be changed? There had been some talk of kind-
hid bee Ireland in pecuniary matters, and that night mention
but .:1? made of 468,000/. given in grants to that country.
soap she entire sum given, at this moment it did not
°harm;
claims of their own revenue which, after
Ithdl,;4 ,the of Ireland, went into the public revenue,
toter,, Vent in this country. They had a remedy, if this
~eqt If old but adopt it—the restcration of their own Perim-
:la the: they refuted them that remedy, let them at least
lake 4,e`onesenters, Was it not monstrous that they sh.o.uld
these toluu,ooo/. out of that country for years without giving
..„I°Ner b,Y.reittro whatever ? If they would not consent to the
OldL-;esure th •ght at least adopt the less natural one.
it- "tehttevedi less effective one, of taxing the absentees.
''ter der ° Government allow the surplus of Irish revenue,
ttk_ ed .
'II the expenses of Government in Ireland, In be
saState Ireland ? If they contributed to the produce of
s
sic State "e) ought to have a fair share of the expenditure of
-11'63 hould not the expenses of the navy be
tole Isciailbk.this trio csountries? There were splendid harbours
L fo_ s,uperior to those in England, but more open
those harbours
6,114r4re1e0 foe. Why should not
(IP 4,1°1 by English men-of-war ( H:ea_r, )
eye, qr not there be dockyards established in I I
:12hiseeeo44:) Why should the whole expenditure be reabsorbed
el
been visited ;141,0442
had
spne of tht great
ueveti
r d ion' of the Government
44. es IlehhFent. If there were te
time,e he could show that the
seti, litach-4c,h had been remitted in this country exceeded by
rn,e'eei:o-Conttritest
hadthe taxesia remitted in Ireland. The taxes since
m ed n this country amounted to
,„the°llle,„"en. while ien. itre)lanpodsit hado been as one to eighteen.
„s7t3hey -,:se.chareed the people of Ireland five per cent. for the
tea"useh has been advanced to them, whereas the ad-
8N meal
to the steeple of England have been
:44-e,..,-liajrl9 four, and in some cases only thtrteer-
%Zed to Per cent. These and other pettyhaymea
snot
reZ taste, Isnpoverish the country.
14-eety whit wards Ireland in this as in otherYroeuspects. The
yon "bee h.e`, You boast of advancing to us is the money which
let
siti'llosedl`nated from us by such means. These are tea ter
not eof tub • It was not the fault of Hon. Members on
"teud 'le House if the Government of this country would
0 .
akzil_at tais state of things. It was unneeessar forurn
ti7d th
h_( Was of the utmost importance that both countries
tt I
e 01; heartily bound together ; for if war came. on
4tto4 btihences ef the state of feeling which prevailed,
9.ll‘rhi. gio:e°,asY to calculate. Pe felt that he was only
zaubi-,74 duty,as an Irish Member, in taking this view
Whatever they had hitherto done to alleviate
•"t. " he
' 0f that unhappy country was but small and ineffi-
aith edi warned them that now was the time to change
al.!tiet„,' and entirely, the system of policy which they had
tht7l'd j:ors,!l,e!l toward Ireland.— ( Loud cheers. )
lio:tbarrya;':us-SELL— I do not altogether concur in
Gsomel of
Illob"°112 which have been made by the Hon.. Frit e-
eLre ffess
theany a' just sat down. I am so very far from wishing to
diseussicti on the subject, that I would rather
atlleett°°•,ltlember to take every opportunity to bring he-
eelreee,herltlon of this House the grievances of Ireland, and
lietZe ire-r," al might be considered most. advisable to adopt
eiZtereittvement of its concition. The Hsn. Gentleman.
loan to pa:,l°Wed that there exists in this House a desire and
tetrY tre.-et'eve those distresses when proved to exist ; and,
ihipoll the" part, I am prepared not only to take into consirde-
-116, Irie,Pleserit grievances which exist, but also all the
theaeloces under which that country has laboured ; as
the'far 2„,...,lneasares which may he considered, best adapted
IcirtCh', of Ireland.—(Cheers.) Now, Sir, I am
heets;°4- Zng, of opinion that anything the House has
inn Laid be regarded as a boon to Ireland.—(Hear,
ki„—•• tipon this House as the representatives of the
10. h to s,--gthun and if one part of that kingdom should
Jet,
ii"te fili'eted more seri°. asly than another, effectual is the
et when yof this House to take measures for the
4;4 ser,ie:l that evil, and certainly I do not consider that for
tile kJ he' °r assistance, that afflicted portion of the country
464- . t,he , expectedto he grateful —( Hear, hear. )
b4tt• ""n I have risen on the present occa-
lett its of et for the purpose of entering into the
kteee,,.!tateinents made in reference to this sueet,
Corpl, Hon. rl'ose of joining in the wish expressed by the
the woidd
_mtlesean opposite, that the Hon. Member for
do "I"°t Persevere any further with his motion after
tizirtleraan'o. after listening
Os_°he that, that had been offered by the Government. I
evil arnte.o, Iliosite, to the statement of the Right Hon
feel satisfied, that while her. Majesty's
eset'sthhoe'flave left nothing undone to avoid the impending
fordutets
tnot h
d h -een guilty of any neglect upon the one
.hand.
'lte roe th. been any ostentatious display of the relief af-
htor that-tuhtners Holding this opinion, and hearing in mind
ale44leree,,e° Commission now in Ireland may recommend
Rrllk_ deeto measures than those of the Government, if they
tr no ao such necessary, I feel confident that there
%so' Me or complaint left, and therefore it is that I
be Gmber to withdraw his motion. If he should
oat the „p expiration of a month or so be of opi-
skene, expect,
thenhneoatrhi)nglceaanutroetvaeinttdhuiwmutwroimthoruet
sayingig
itat-11°Ilse stshe 11°11. Member has rendered great service to
ate of fr , the information he has afforded it on the present
.
'ert i•Wsty„,
the, bonds el, as an independent Member, wished to say a
Rubas then this question.—( Hear, hear.) He thought
ehl:'" had rre were so many points in the question,
korleftt to 'eels already very ably- discussed, he should be
loeatte.rfine himself to the general question, and become
NastietlY AIL 4s than he had been accustomed to be. He had
I._ Albs Mitted the expression oi his feelings to those
Shief.SoZrldhheeavy
jaassacecustomed to look as his leaders • but
Rhoh th.4a to the question of
f to. state hisown opinions for
had been brought
:eitthetto;sj,
31..enesaernaendd
h_ did al:louse, there was no aomnemoenwthat side of the House
rints eas"'
sarnent the sad position of Ireland, as detailed by the
Member for Cork who had displayed
oodfteheling in nett having intermixed
%tilt 14 hiaties • t'g lekti trse
e-onsieZeidonwiaiettheermsliisral condition of Ireland. It
iothdrawal ,of the gentry
vnel:ed, which result svouldeb: of the consequences
° Right Hon. Baronet's measureasr:lisrid
would not reduce
Mite d to a similar sad condition
Another point
Nilitt occurred to him was the withdrawal of
taitttli If it should happen that there slaoucUittasle from the
kilost„, Fold to pay for the foreign coin which vsaoull'd"bAte
Zgee
501 into this country, then the like sad calamity which had
gleetit°llaett'ed as having befallen Ireland would be realised in
ii4sPehdtd With respect to the potato crop, the. people of Ireland
041 'rola year to year on its precarious existence, and
)its sett tOTI the result •?
It was a warning to the people of
°eware how they placed themselves in a similar
I,l7:4,4l;nsition—to take care how they made themselves
Ittio.iillitir.°T Year to year on the mercy of a foreign nation,
rlf ea•'hor ably be actuated by hostile feelings, and If any-
ilateltiatie Occur to revent their supply of corn, the people
htittpee.,' botltzwth;atiT. be aspwretchedly off as the Irish were at pre-
- %Pa- Possessing the same resources and commise-
-743 Ir7l,stls;; he bad had the great satisfaction of subscribing
ecathescl. Ills called the Famine Fund for the people
44.1 theZt th: remembered with respect to that
rod 'Yeai tl.l4kiovernment then possessed no power to
eats Whatatrttly. .4s'lts a temporary expedient to relieve a tem-
po led, 01 was its he whole sum subscribed was 300,0001.,
tr,,d°l4bt tehdhlreiteteet on the people of Ireland? At that
that !tit, h Rim; V, the people of Ireland was so great that
te-hrloese''°Pisiti nen. Baronet would have been frightened
hioje 1,41) 44; and have been induced to come down to
th,t4; Tice Eve introduced a similar extravagant measure
404% ° Miele 'lt at that time there existed no fears of the
lief °Pero the aub•cribed was expended in relieving the
apt ie;
0.,14 thPe°P!e, and in the employment of
t 1,40 the-snaostin construction of public works, and
etat•aed ihPrlsposed4 she supply of grain at home.
rig tub tige,e measure would effect. The Hon. Member
tat it ti he I,claifor their patient hearing, and concluded by
bqktitiel4,44 Ly d. never be a party to take any mean advan-
Lii-4471,ti1:Nt!10.,,e-al7Bl7itlawirnly interfering with her immense
s's. epees Gr asd hoped that she might long continue to
then sst • .1()ts • tit , withdrew his amendment.
ItiAZI„„itiOURNED DEBATE.
ree4ig el's' of et, " lIERS felt most anxious to promote the
;Nis i!il.etlenr„bie seellt:ll,lntr9- He was anxious to see the con-
miteal'riee one I.:- Prevailed at present in the country
tioa Y esrteet Irmumions peace. The Noble Lord
at,ly rua.ie ed a misrepresentation which had been un-
keNtieo andbY she Hon. Member for Lincoln on the
hisht Jar, ill Proceeded to say that, in cowiderirg the
hrlidt
.4511Ouses it had appeared to him that the
YiNt itsie tva, entertained of how a country like
vlviZt°l. tone Hoea'e to
.he supplied with food. Without
lest'- - Adam with any of those hackneyed qu0.141
.141 "°"e the s' Fnltli and Ricardo on this subject, he
14ef 11;entaorny. s'Plnions of a great foreign writer on
4 toottti °hi ahes-the Count Carli, President of the Col-
Ras tai 'aegieetwia of opinion that no prudent Govern-
Naselleetaipply of take proper precautions for a regular
• kit P, of ~t 4 teceort:lebeeause the produce of the ground
ostt.shtrie n eo._ vicissitudes of the Season, and was ne-
,„, attest nu jai nature. Corn was not a subject for
eetki,(OPetition, like wine and olives, fur with-
e.,_aeroe Noble', lives but they could not live without
clslea;l4'her Lord then made another quotation from
Whie'h 84 to the vvise proposition of the English
el eo lit PplY+ vie pet, regulated the sup dy of food, and rens
emit independent of foreign aid for
thilost the known regretted that so able a writer
It too octoroons 10 this country. He
the, ,^try th epini Y. had heard that it was
I'o4 iore bet the co on of nearly all the statesmen of
tato. m °came r?s-laws could be nit longer retained.
IrOYatieti t'o/ e 0 me taiirod-
the, to:_,ttdd
~;(Itauty of those wh still thought that
probabilities
considerssof a
sueeea
srierfuull ley() theute s
t, wholeaud
ss'dhnntd. 'inle to►
conclusionispLssion
aatseltyo the course to
%I_ bot .mtelttly hSe opinion that the effects of free trade
letit, Se eaggerated on both sides, and theref.,re he
at6-`eteiss' it sheesee
fmt Itl:earn entertainefir:lte any project,
rs.terk_P tondo_ anate from the Noble Lord opposite, the
iit4,l4ezestrioZ:ufrora the Right Hon. Baronet at the head
drew tub oft
the civic
(itlent, which should have for its object the
11.400 a
to et operati_ disc 'which
which prevailed on this matter.
t...hdes...lporer,uviLto be successful it must not be mad with
eot f...''ws; and on shallow . and contradictory
t or.t,ses be ..tch! 013vetifir--77awce4tmoeftlat
dlitet it :2*(l thrtnate a. ti:re_at• !!road, and general principles.
terrified Cabinet, to
41014t,`Fle tntroltted to premature law,
2.111 discussion and ultimate ver-
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