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London, England, 1846-06-26 00:00:00

(Cheers.) He had always heard that Noble Lord speak with-
out any reservation or equivocation, and he had never heard
any pi;rson say that that Noble Lard left the least Itiovho:e in
his sneecllos, out of which he might creep, as others were in
the habit of doing. He (the Duke of Cleveland) had only
to say, that ente7taining these sentiments and these views, he
11103 t protest agains:: the policy of this measure. He thanked
the lion, for the indulge.:'c= which had been accorded to him,
and he would only trespass fu;"licr for the purpose cf saying,
that he considered the measure ttit-lly uncalled for—( Hear,
Lear)—and reflected great discredit on the Government that
had introduced it.—(Cheers.)
Several NoBLE Losses here rose simultaneously to address

thrir Lordships, but,
Earl DAL l-IOUSIE (who was one of these Noble Lords)
having said that he rose merely for the purpose of explaining',
was allowed to proceed. He said he should not trouble their
Lordships many minutes, nor should he have ventured to
trespass on their attention had it not been for some of the ob-
servations which had fallen from the Noble Duke who had
just sat down,, with reference to proxies given in that House.
Had the comments of the Noble Duke on that subject been

restricted to general observations on proxies oven there, he
(tbe Earl of Dalhousie) would not have troubled their Lord-
ships ; but as the Noble Duke had mentioned the name of his
(the Earl of Dalhousie's Noble and Gallant relative, the Mar-
quis of Tweedda!e) and stated that his proxy was given con-
trary to his opinions and feelings on the subject of this measure,
he hoped that their Lordships would allow him to say a few
words on the subjt ct. He (the Earl of Dalhousie) took a wide
view from the Noble Duke on the subject of proxies. As lot.`g
as these proxies did exist, he must confess that a proxy was
given upon the principle of entire delegation into the hands of
those who held then.—( Hear, hear.) Such was the principle
of proxy, and as long as that system of proxy existed, it mat.,
tered not whether the individual whose proxy was given was
a resident in the Indies or dinin!, in Belgrave.square at the
time that it was given. —(Hear, hear, and laughter.) The
Noble Duke had said, that the proxy of his (the Earl of
Dalhousie's) Noble and Gallant Relative was given in direct
contradiction to his sentiments on this question ; and he had
also stated that it was utterly impossible that his Noble and
Gallant Friend, living at se great a distance from this country,
could have heard of the introduction of this measure. He (the
Earl of Dalhousie) thought that the Noble Duke must have
forgotten that this question had been now introduced seven
months, and that a communication reached him in six
weeks.—(Hear, hear.) He (the Earl of Dalhousie) eould
assure the Noble Duke that he had had a communication with
his Noble and Gallant Relative on this subject.—( Hear,
hear)—and he could assure the House that his firm convic-
tion was that if his Noble and Gallant Friend had been in that
House he would have voted for the second reading of this Bill.
But he (the Earl of Dalhousie) would at the same time frankly
state that he 'relieved, if his Noble and Gallant Friend had
been there he would have voted ftir the amendment of the
Noble Earl on the back bench, with respect to a fixed duty ;
and had their Lordships assented to that he would, no doubt,
have declined voting for the second reading ; and he (the Earl.
of Dalhousie) would not, under such circumstances, have ten-
dered his proxy in support of the third reading, although, oft
the general principle, he considered himself entitled to use the
proxy. He felt certain that had his Noble and Gallant Friend
' been present he would have voted for the third reading of this

Bill.
Lord GAGE said he must bespeak their Lordships in..
dulgence for a short space of time, whilst he, with vey great
reluctance and hopelessness, ventured briefly to address to
them a few observations (as he considered himself bound to do)
with respect to this measure.—(Hear.) On looking at this
question he found that it had been brought forward by men
who had, a few short months ago, told them that the consent-
ing to such a measure, on the part of the Legislature,
entail general ruin on the country.—(Hear, hear.)
Those
men had not given them any distinct reasons for their sudden
change,of opinion en this question. Instead of now lookig
upon this measure as one calculated to ruin the country, the
ehe
promoters declared, on the contrary, that it would increase t
prosperity of the country. But they bad not given one single
reason for their change of conduct. It was
plain that it was
the pressure from without that had induced,he Prime Alinister
to bring forward this measure. d elections that had.
recently taken place shown that the people were in favour of
this measure ? For his own humble part, he conceived that if
measures must be passed by their Lordships
on the
sole ground that it had passed the other
House
of the Legislature—( Hear)—there was no need
of a
House of Lords.—( Hear, hear.) He had heard nuthing se
unworthy as the reiteration of the vulgar insputation that
their Lordships were actuated solely by selfish mot.'yee in
givirg their opposition to this measure.—( Hear, hear.)
And
must their Lordships be prevented from defending their OW"
interests? But, further than that, their Lordships conceiv ed
tE
that this measure would entail ruin on the tenantsfartners o
England, and those whom They employed.—( Hear, hear.) The
land would, in his opinion, be thrown out of
cultivatidon--
four-fifths would be deprived of employment ;
an, as a
he
Coercion Bill had been lately introduced for Ireland,
as
that a similar Bill must be introduced for
Englan
wouldd, to
keep down the disturbances which this measure
most probably create.—( Hear, hear.) By Whom had thi
measure been introduced? By Quakers, Dissenters, and vio-
e-
lent enemies of the Church.—(Hear, hear.) my b
lieved, that in spite of the votes which their Lordships had
given, nine-tenths of them at least, in their hearts, abominated
it.—( Haar, hear.) He heard with deep regret that expres-
sion which dropped from the Noble and Gallant Duke, that
that was the lest time which he would ever have the honour
of addiessing the _House. Lie (Lord Gage) joined fervently
in the universal admiration with which that best and greatest
of heroes was greeted; but he at the same time deeply re-
gretted that his last triumph should be over the liberties of his

country.
Earl STANHOPE said he would nut comment on Sir
Robert Peel's course of conduct, as in a few hours he would be
driven from power, never again to be called to the dignitiesth of
office.—(Hear, hear.) But he would at once proceed to e
principles of the measure which they were then discussing, and
he would tell their Lordship; that the principles of free tra e
were those of uncommon nonsense. Social questions hung
upon the present question which would be as little palatable to
the promoters of the measure, as they would he to any
Noble
Lord of the party to which he had the honour dudelong. He
would tell them that their authority was gone, at a future
day it might be a question of their existence, and then it would
be well if they could have judgment staved. If they were to
have a free trade in corn, they should have one in agriculture
also.—( Hear, hear.) He warned their Lordships of the cons&
quences—consequences which were likely to bring about a re-
eoluticn—and if that revolution took place, the whole. respon•
;ability would rest on her Majesty's present Ministers.
The Earl of SELKIRK said it was thought by many that
this question of the corn-laws once settled, they should bear no
more of the question. He was not of that opinion, nor was it
the opinion of many of their Lordships.—( Hear, hear.)
The Duke of RICHMOND wished to know from the Noble
Lords the Members of her" Majesty's Government, whether
their minds had undergone any change since Sir Robert Peet
stated some time ago, that he intended introducing a measure
which would give compensation to the tenant-farmers of this
country ? He wished something should be said on the subject
before they separated on this question. For his own part, he
would advise the farmers to agitate against the measure about
to be passed, and not to cease till protection was again
brought about. He would do more—he would advise
them to agitate for the repeal of all the bur.
dens in the shape of taxation. --( Hear,
from Earl Stanhope.) He believed that if the
hear,
Bill, which would give to the tenant-farmers the means of
claiming their outlay for improvements, were passed, it would
be of great advantage, and it should have his hearty suppor.
--(Hear, hear.) He was glad to hear that .the present Go.
vernment was about to resign, for it would show to the county
that no Ministry could abuse the confidence of the country
with impunity, notwithstanding the support of their 110 sup-
porters; and there was one consolation, that these 110 sup-
porters were not likely to gain anything by their sudden con-

version.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH said he felt bound, so far as he
was concerned, to inform the House, that whatever Govern.,
ment succeeded the present, he would be bound by his ex-
pressed opinions with regard to the measures in connexion with
the Corn Bill.
On the question that the Bill be read a third time this day
six months, the non-contents were declared to have it.
The question that the Bill be now read a third time was put,
when the contents were declared to have it. The Bill was
then read a third time, and passed.
CWaTOMEI DUTIES BILL.
On the question being put for the third reading of this Bill,
The Duke of RICHMOND said, on a former occasion he
had stated to their Lordships that a deputation of the Spite-
fields silk weavers had waited upon the Noble Lord, the Presi-
dent of the Board of Trade, and laid the case before him, but
the Noble Lord denied they had done so. Now he had since
learned that the deputation was received by the Vice-President
of the Board of Trade, in the absence of the Noble Lord, and
that Right Hon, Gentleman was asked to extend the same pri-
vilege to the Spitalfields silk weavers that had been granted to
the Coventry ribbon makers, but it was refused. Under these
circurnatances be wished to ask the Noble Lord whether,
if a deputation were to wait upon him, and show that the case
of the Spitalfielda weavers was the same as the Coventry ribbon
makers, be w sold propose or support a Bill putting them in
the same situation as the silk ribbon weavers of Coventry?
The Earl of DALHOUSIE replied that it was perfectly
true that the deputation was received by his Right Hon
Friend the Vice •President of the Board of Trade, in his own
absence; but the Noble Duke 11,,,d incorrectly assumed that
the deputation went away unheard. The fact was, however,
his Right Hon. Friend took the deputation to the Chancellor
Of the the Exchequer, the officer of the Government who
usually attended to matters connected with revenue, and their
case was fully gone into. Under these circumstances, he
could not give the promise the Noble Duke required.
Lord .YTANLEY asked the Noble Earl if the Chancellor
of the Exchequer was anare that the request of the Deputa-
tion had been conceded to the Coventry ribbon weaver?
The Earl of DALHOUSIE replied in the affirmative.
After a few words from Lord ASHBURTON and Lard
Baouonam,
The Bill was read a third time, and passed.
Several Bills lying on their Lordships' table were advanced
a stage, and their Lordships adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 25.
PROTECTION OF LIFE (IRELAND) BILL.
ADJOURNED DEBATE.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM moved the order of the day for
the adjourned debate on the second reading of this Bill,
Mr. STAFFORD OTRIEN rose to address the House.
The Right 11032.„ Baronet, gated,- and gated fairly, that thole