The Sun.
London, England, 1846-04-01 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

STREET NUISANCES.—If an apple-woman put her
basket on the pavement, it is an obstruction punishable with
fine and imprisonment; if an unhired cab loiters about the
streets, it is an obstruction punishable with fine and impri-
sonment, though the loitering of the cab may be a conveni-
ence to somebody in want of one ; but monster vans, about
twenty times the size of an omnibus, parading the streets, not
for the purpose of conveyance, but to exhibit placards, are
not obstructions in the microscopic eye of the law. These
monster vans are getting larger and larger, and we shall
soon see one as wide as a street, as high as the houses, and
30 or 40 yards long. As it is, they stop up the carriageway,
and they frighten horses ; but they are no obstruction, no
nuisance, though a cab parading about in the same way
would be both. Whose business is it to attend to the
nuisances that spring up in the streets ? The law never
meets occasions. It rages against a basket on the footpath,
and it sUffers men to march asout with huge placarding
boards occupying the space of a score or two of baskets
and it tolerates red houses on wheels. It has not yet
opened its stupid eye to these nuisances. After meddling
with miserable trifles, it always goes to sleep, and it is no
one's business to rouse it to meet real annoyances. In this
well-regulated town hanging out flags fluttering over the
carriage way is amongst the liberties of the subject, for ad-
vertising eflect, or for whim, or any kind of foolery. There
is not another city in Europe in which such a practice would
be suffered, and in London it is more dangerous than else-
where, as the horses are higher mettled and more likely to
take fright,—.Examiner. •

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HOUSE OF LORDS, March 3L
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool-
sack at Five o'clock.
THE NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said he had given
notice that he would move an address to be presented to
her Majesty on the subject of the report made yesterday
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might move the address
now and die uss it and they could agree to the wording at
a future time.
The Duke of WELLINGTON thought it would be
better to wait till they saw what the other House of
Parliament would do. It was his opinion that both
Houses should agree in the mode of proceeding.
IRISH RAILWAYS.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, after a few prelimi-
nary observations, which did not reach the gallery,
stated that the grand jury of the county of Kerry
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commissioned him to present a petition praying
House to give as much consideration as was in their
power to the various plans of railways which were be-
fore Parliament, and begging that their Lordships
would, as far as they could consistently with their public
duty, expedite those Bills in such a manner as to give the
earliest employment to the people of Ireland. lie wished
to cell the attention of the House to a matter of some
importance with reference to this petition, and he would
take this oortunity of asking his Noble Friend, the
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First Lord of the Admiralty, a question with reference
to this subject. At various times, lay the direction of the
Government, surveys had been made of the south-
western coast of Ireland, with a view of establishing
a packet or military station, or both, and to
secure a good means of Communication across the
Atlantic. He, therefore, wished that the Govern-
ment should make up their minds as to the
place in which such station should be placed while
these various lines of railway were under consideration.
In the embarking of capital in railways, it was impor-
tant that some plan should be adopted respecting a
packet and military station at the mouth of the Shannon,
at Valencia, at Pier Head, or at Bantry Bay, or some
other place that might be deemed more eligible. There
ought to be some understanding with the Government
with regard to such a measure, so that those railways
should be made to answer in the best way for public
purposes. He would give no opinion as to the best
point for a station ; he merely submitted the matter to
the consideration of the Government. And if a choice
of a point was made, it should be known as soon as pos-
sible, in order that no difficulty might be thrown in the
way of those schemes which were proposed for railway
accommodation in Ireland. He would now present the
petition, which was in favour of the construction of
railways in Ireland generally.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH was obliged to the
Noble Marquis for his suggestions, but he would beg
leave to inform him that the selection of a station on the
west coast of Ireland rested with the Treasury and not
with the Admiralty. With regard to the ports named
for a packet station, he thought that Valencia would
not be selected. Bantry Bay was better, but Cork was
better than them both.
THE NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE rose to move the
address, of which he had given notice, relative to the
new Houses of Parliament. If they were about in any
way to advise the Crown upon any matter that would
touch the buildings erected for the service of the House
of Commons, thereby interfering, if not with the pri-
vilege, at least with the business of that House,
then indeed it would be necessary for them to con-
fer with the House of Commons before they could
take any step in the matter. They, however, did no
such thing. The address referred only to the buildings
for the sole use and service of the House of Lords. It
was a matter of fact, that the Board of Works had been
incorporated with the office of the Woods and Forests.
There could be no doubt that all palaces and buildings of
the Crown or great works of a public nature erected
in the metropolis came under the superintendence
of that department. There was, therefore, nothing
said in the address which he was about to read.
Within the last nine months the work, as regarded
their Lordships' House, had been at a stand-still.
The delay originated out of the differences that arose
between the gentlemen employed in the execution of the
work. The architect entrusted with the work, and a
scientific gentleman who had been called in to superin-
tend the ventilation and heating of the House
differed and the consequence was a total sus-
pension of the work as regarded the comple.
don of the House. What, then, did the Committee
do? They did not presume to undertake to settle the
difference, and he held that it would not be competent
for their Lordships or the Commons, or for both, to in-
terfere, as it was the Queen's privilege, and therefore
the Executive Government alone could interfere. The
Committee therefore referred to the Executive
Government for the interposition of their au-
thority, with a view that they would direct both
gentlemen to do their duty, and speedily and imme-
diately complete the work with which they had been
entrusted. The superintendence of the work having
fallen on the Woods and Forests' department, no other
commission or board was established for that purpose.
Now he considered that that was unfortunate, as the
department of Woods and Forests had already_ so much
business thrown on them that they could not give the
works that serious attention which they deserved. It
would appear, notwithstanding, that the calculations
made by the architect, both as to time and expense, were
erroneous; and with that view he moved for the Committee.
The Committee felt bound to make some suggestions,
which he was happy to say had been adopted by the
Commissioners of Woods and Forests. But, notwith-
standing this report; the Committee were powerless
upon one point, and that a point for which they had
been appointed, namely, to accelerate the build-
ing of the House. They had not the power
to make the building go on as they wished, for they had
not the authority, and they were therefore obliged Co call
upon supreme authority to make them go on. They
had called upon the Commissioners of Woods and
Forests. He did not think that any public building
erected by public money had ever been erected ex-
cept under the superintendence of the Board of
Public Works, and he thought it was a great
pity that in the present case they had not acted on
the same principle. He maintained that the agreement
which had been entered into had not been carried
out. He did not wish to impute blame to any one ;
it was no doubt a work of a difficult nature.
The Noble Lord concluded by moving that an address
be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty
may be pleased to direct Mr. Barry to proceed with the
New Houses without delay, and that Dr. Reid be
directed not to interfere with the works by his plans of
ventilation, and that directions be given for the com-
pletion of the House of Lords by the commencement of
the next session.
The LORD CHANCELLOR having put the motion,
Lord CANNING opposed the motion, because the
report on which the address was first grounded had
only been laid before their Lordships the previous day.
He confessed that he was unwilling to take the step re-
commended by his Noble relative, inasmuch as the report
which he had alluded to had only been laid on the table
last night. He particularly objected to that passage in
the report which had a reference to the impediment put
to the completion of the works by the proceedings of
the Board of Works. Now be thought that it was im-
possible to entertain a recommendation of this sort, until
the evidence was laid before the House in which this
impediment was stated. That Board, as now constituted,
was so divided into its departments that it was not
likely that the impediments were as bad been represented
to their Lordships ; and he protested against any charges
being made by implication, until the evidence on which
they were based were laid on the table of the House.
There was another passage in the address moved
for by his noble relative, which he conceived it was in-
competent for their Lordships to entertain, for the fact
was, that the recommendation was founded upon that
report which had been submitted to their Lordships,
but which had never been yet made known to the House
of Commons. No report ss yet had been made to the
House of Commons upon the ventilation of the new
houses of Parliament orrespecting the plans for ventila-
tion proposed by Dr. Reid, and which were alluded to
in the report before their Lordships. There had been
a resolution come to by the House of Commons it ap-
pears, but they could not recommend any specific pro-
ceedings until the report of the Committee had been
made. Then the Committees of their Lordships' House
reported that the a hole of the system of ventilation
proposed to be adopted under the management of Dr.
Reid would require several years to be carried out, and
that they could not recommend the expenditure of more
money on the ventilation of the houses of Parliament.
Then this was not so much a question of convenience to
the House of Lords or to the House of Commons, but rather
as of ventilation. But the House of Commons, which
was not so impatient as their Lordships, took a different
view of the matter. If both Houses addreesed the Crown,
each in accordance with its own views, let them consider
the position in which the Crown would be placed by such
a course of procedure. Their views were entirely in-
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consistent with the views of the other House of Parlia-
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meat ; and, therefore, be sought them to pause before
they adopted the motion of his noble relative (the Mar-
quis of Clanricarde). It gave him great satisfaction to
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department to which he (Lord Canning) had the honour
to belong. He thought the course which their Lord-
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the object for which they were appointed, as the delay
and disputes which had taken place had increased since
they were appointed, and had led those engaged in the
works to look for instruction to others than their real mas-
ters. Hewould not presume to decide what the course should
be that their Lordships ought to pursue, but he might
express his earnest hope that the members of the Com-
mita‘e should be careful to confine themselves to an in-
vestigation of facts ; and if they should wish to offer
any recommendation or suggestion, that they would do
so—not in the shape of a report—but by a representa-
tion to the department, to which allusion had been math'
more than once that evening by his Noble relative.
That Beard had been ever anxious to meet the wishes
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of their Lordships, and he thought this course the one
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trusted most likely to expedite business, and, in his opinion, to
give the greatest degree of satisfaction to that Board of
not assent to the proposition of his Noble relative.
Lord REDESDALE, having had something to do
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with the preparation of the report, would wish to make
an observation or two on the subject matter contained in
it. The facts expressed in the report were very few,
and they were published to the world long ago. It was
perfectly notorious that since the year 1843, when the
Committee was first formed, the whole of the evidence
taken before them was known from time to time. The
report referred to the state of the building
now and the state in which it should be.
weld remind their Lordships that it was impossible

On the motion of Lord KINNAIRD the members of
the Committee which he moved for yesterday were
agreed to.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, March 31.
There being only thirty-one Members present at Four
o'clock, the House adjourned till to-morrow.

TUESDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE.
WHITEHALL, MARCH 30.
The Queen has been pleased to direct letters patent to be
passed under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom of
Great Britain and Ireland, appointing the Right
Honourable Charles John Viscount Canning, the Right
Honourable James Andrew Earl of Dalhousie, the Right
Honourable the Lord Mayor of the City of London, the Right
Hon. John Charles Herries, and Sir John Mark Frederic
Smith, Lieut.-Colonel of the Royal Corps of Engineers, to be
her Majesty's Commissioners for investigating and reporting
upon the various railway projects, of which the termini are
proposed to be established within or in the immediate vicinity
of the metropolis.
DOWNING-STREET, MARCH 28.
The Queen has been pleased to appoint Theophilus Shep-
stme, Esq., to be Diplomatic Agent to the Native Tribes re-
siding within the district of Natal, in South Africa.
Her Majesty has also been pleased to appoint John Mac-
lean, Esq., Captain in the Army, to be Diplomatic Agent to
the T'Slambie, Congo, and Fingo Tribes, on the eastern fron-
tier of the settlement of the Cape of Good Hope.
FOREIGN-OFFICE, MARCH 27.
The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. J. Frederic
Peat, as Consul in the Bahama Islands for the Free Hanseatic
city of Bremen.
WAR-OFFICE, MARCH 31.
3d Light Dragoons—Lieut. S. Fisher to be Captain, with-
out purchase. vice Brevet Major Berries, killed in action,
Dec. 19, 1845.
To be Lieutenants, without purchase—Cornet H. W.
White, vice Fisher; Cornet J. D. White, vice Newton, killed
in action; Dec. 19; Cornet J. Rathwell, vice Codd, killed in
action, Dec. 22.
To be Cornets, without purchase—Cornet E. J. Thackwell,
from the 16th Light Dragoon, vice H. W. White, promoted,
March 31, 1846 ; Sergeant-Major G. Kountze, vice J. D.
White, April 1, 1846; H. P. Sale, Gent., vice Rathwell,
April 2, 1846; T. H. Stisted, Gent., vice Worley, killed in
action, April 3, 1846 ; G. T. Gough, Gent„ vice Ellis, killed
in action, April 4, 1846.
16th Light Dragoons.
To be Comets, without purchase—F. L. Dashwood, Gent.,
Tice Bruce, killed in action, March 31 ; W. S. Lockhart,
Gent., vice Thackwell, appointed to the 3d Light Dragoons,
April 1.
4th Regiment of Foot—Ensign A. V. D. Harris, to be
Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Morris, dezeaseil, Nov. 18.
9th Foot.
To be Lieutenants-Colonels, without purchase—Major G.
L. Davis, vice Colonel Sir J. M,Caskill, killed in action ;
Dec. 19, 1845. Major C. Barnwell, vice Taylor, killed in
action, Dec. 22.
To be Majors, without purchase—Brevet-Major C. Dou-
glas, vice Davis, Dec. 19; Brevet-Major M. Smith, vice
Barnwell, Dec. 22.
To be Captains, without purchase—Lieutenant C. M.
Creagh, vice Douglas, Dec. 18 ; Lieutenant C. £lmhirst,
vice Smith, Dec. 22 ; Lieutenant D. M. Bethune, vice Dunne,
killed in action, Dec. 22 ; Lieutenant W. Shelton, vice Feild,
killed in action, Dec. 31.
To be Lieutenants, without purchase—Ensign H. Thomas,
vice Creagh, Dec. 19, 1845; Ensign R. G. Cumming, vice
Ehnhirst, Dec. 22, 1845; Ensign W. H. Forster, vice Hook,
appointed Adjutant, Dec. 22, 1843; Ensign G. H. Hawes,
vice Sievwright, died of his wounds, Jan. 4, 1846; Ensign
W. H. Stirling, vice Shelton, March 31.
To be Ensigns, without purchase—Sergeant-Major J.
Whiteside, vice Thomas, March 31; A. Sievwright, Gent.,
vice Cumming, April 1 ; W. P. Terry, Gent., vice Forster,
April 2 ; 11. R. Browne, Gent., vice Hawes, April 3 ; C. W.
Lontsworth, Gent., vice Hanham, promoted in the 62d Foot,
April 4 ; S. B. M. Skinner, dent., vice Richardson, pro •
rooted in the 62d Foot, April 5.
To be Adjutant—Lieut. L. Hook, vice Bethune, promoted,
Dec. 22, 1845.
17th Foot—F. H. D. Marsh, Gent, to be Ensign, without
purchase, vice Johnston, appointed to the 41st Foot,
March 31.
21st Foot—The Hon. C. M. H. Forbes to be Second Lieu-
tenant, without purchase, vice Dilkes, promoted to the 31st
Foot, March 31.
22d Foot—Ensign T. Stack to be Lieutenant, without pur-
chase, vice Smith, deceased, Nov. 18, 1845 ; A. J. B. L. Butt,
Gent., to be Ensign, vice Stack, March 31, 1846.
28th Foot—Ensign B. J. Lennox, from the 41st Foot, to
be Ensign, vice Moore, promoted, March 31.
29th Foot.
To be Captains, without purchase—Lieut. H. P. L'Estrange,
vice Lucas, killed in action ; Lieut. K. Murchison, vice
Molle, killed in action, March 20.
To be Lieutenants, without purchase—Ensign H. It. White,
vice Carey, killed in action, Dec. 19, 1845; Ensign G.'St. J.
Henderson, vice Simmons, killed in action, Dec. 22, 1845 ;
Ensign E. T. Scudamore, vice L'Estrange; Ensign A. A.
Dick, vice Jones, appointed Adjutant, March 20.
To be Ensigns, without purchase—Sergeant-major G. Mit-
chell, vice White, March 31 ; W. S. Simmons, Gent , vice
Henderson, April 1; C. H. Levinge, Gent., vice Scudamore,
April 2 ; J. S. Henderson, Gent., vice Dick, April 3; R. J.
Evans, Gent., vice Richards, promoted, April 4.
To be Adjutant—Lieut. G. H. M. Jones, vice Murchison,
promoted, March 20.