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a considerable loss to the revenue. Another thing appeared, fell from his Right Hon. Friend the First Secretary of the RAILWAY SII ARE MARKETS
that but for this reduction-the increased railway speculations Treasury. The shipowners would, in consequence of the high MANCHESTER, }Mama 20*
leat.linc, to increased consumption-but for this reduction he rate of duty, be compelled to use the Canadian timber, as it was STOCE EZCIIAN6E.—The sales are— Am bgale, Nottinghant,,,..o
said the Canadian colonies would neither have suffered in the particularly applicable to ship-building. It had been said that , Eastern Junction, is. dis.-Pirkenhead,Laetrica.shire, and Cher...:s
price of timbsr, nor in the amount of exportation. His Right the use of the Baltic timber in this country would ruin the i Janctinn, 3',.i P.- Cambridg,e nod Lincoln Extension and York
_l7.
I Lincoln Junction, 1 dig.— Chester and Manchester Directs 217 es
Hon. Friend the first Minister of the Crown appealed to the trade C median timber ft ode. Now in the year 1841, n hen the pro-dciost.,-Cilaithle_roore JtEutfien, 1 dia.-Derby arid Crewe, 2% P• ,k
of Liverpool, and drew a comparison of the tonnage in 1845 tee! ice duty in favour of Canadian timber was not less than 655.,
as compared with his favourite year of 1842. He believed, and when it was reduced to 455. in the year 1842, there was ,
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he said, that there were 222,000 tons entered inwards in 1845, ' precisely the same amount of timber imported from Canada, dis.-Grand Junction, 1,4 p. c.-Great urimsiw and Sheffield Eller
and only 188,000 tons in 1842; and he appealed to this test in ! although it was said that the reduction would cause the de- slum te clia.-11mIdersfleld and Manchester Railway and Metal, igt
justification of the alteration of the timber duties. Now, he i struction and utter ruin of the shipping interest of this coon- p.- Huddersfield and Slat-Meld Junction, 6l;, p.-Lancashireem
1 North Yorkshire, 5-16 dis.-Lancaster and Preston, 9!4; P. ' 0,
(Lord George Bentinek ) would show the House how correct I try. Now they were told that in proposing the reduction they an t Thirsk, t dis.-Ditto, New, 1 dis.-Leicester, Ihr ,p. • mine°
his Right Hon. Friend was while making these quotations. He ' were going beyond the bounds of prudence, and that ! and Trent Valley Junction, 225. dis.-Liverpool and Bury, Noy' ..,1
would read from the circular published by Mr. Dempsey, the Canadian timber trade would be annihilated. He -Liverpool and Leeds Direct, Si. dis.-Liver vol, Orrostirk, wwg
showing what had been the trade since the year 1831. His would beg to call the attention of the House, Preston, 74, p.-Liverpool, Preston, Manchester, and SoutillOt" '
Right Hon. Friend had the advantage of these figu,es on his whilst he stated what had really been the' fleets of that redue- p. -Liverpool, Warrington, Manchester, and Stockport, 14 dirt.
London and Matich,ster (Reim.), I% dis.-Manchester and 11 twaym,
side, for they had not yet been laid on the table of the House; tion of duty. In the year 1841, before the reduction of the
. 1..,,\T, 79.4-21117anches3tte,rnand Hyde, ~A p. c.-3lanchester al..iidarl,rvir
and here he thought the House, and those Hon. Members duty-the duty being then 10s. per load-the sum of 430,00 u/.
eiapn.ca,hih.echeisitim:iisandNeroiotubtirim pton, p
who sat around him, had good season to complain that. informs- was produced to the revenue of this country. In the year I b't;rlaell'tsr ani'id
-
tion had been kept back from them- It was 110 N six, he was ' 1e43, after the reduction, the amount received by the Movern- 1 -Sheffield and Lincolnshire Junction, 14 p.-Ditto, EXtCrISiOI•
not sure that it was not seven, weeks since he had moved for I merit was 609 7601., instead of 430,‘ 00:. In the next year, dis. - She and Manchester, Quarter, No. 1, ems p.lfittytiesi
a return of the number of ships entered inward for the last . 1844, it was 71,069/., and in the lest year it was 94,8621. - 3. 2 IJ. -Shropshire Union Railway aim Canal, Ids. fid. dis•-'
Riding Union, 2,X, p.
seven years. That return had not yet been laid before them, ( Hear, hear) - .and the amount of timber that was now intro-
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and it was only that morning that they had got a return moved duced into this country from Canada had increased 120/. per e
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telision, 15s. p -London and salesC ro3(aloren:2';',lt2ste-Manc.beater anu‘.7, ;',
for on the 28th of January. It was sent from the Customs on cent. And what had become of the Baltic and foreign timber
the 14th of March, and they only got it that morning. It when the duty was reduced from 555. to 255., being 5-lithe. ? Emensions, 3 p.- Sheffield and Manclurst:n:, Quarter shares (%",,.' 3
contained five, or six, or seven pages full of figures, and yet it The duty received in 1841 upon Baltic timber was a little 361,,5e-
aft) i
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had been printed on the succeeding morning, but the House above 1,000.000/. In the year 1843 the amount received was
Iluddersthld and Mancl'e.ter, 212' p.-- Huddersfield and 5he......1%,5'.
6% .p.- Leeds and -Bruit-rd. '-
' s al,ulti,Dezlitu: ryo,s,l,Per, ei!
had not been put in possession of it. From it the Right. Hon. exactly in proportion to the reduction of the duty-namely,
ford, Woniester, and
Baronet drew his comparison between the years 1842 and 1845, 575,000!. ; but in the two subsequent years-in 1844 and 'W'oiye'l4•ll7aniLpetoeidi
and chuckled at the enormous increase in the trade now as 1845-it was 820,000/. ; and in the last year it was 47,0001. Weymouth, 21a--London and York, 314 -West-- Riding* Unioa,ht:
compared with 1842. Why, his own measure, the first great Under those circumstances he would say that, looking at the -Aide
-Nottingham, and :!oston, 20., Birkenbead,ergs.
ter, Mold, &c., 295. 6d. dis.-Bradtield, Wakefield, and 311(1111ot
revolution which he had introduced in 1842, had thrown the experience of the last three years, the House need have n 1
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whole state of trade into stagnation. In 1842 the ships em- fear of the fulfilment of the woful predictions of the Noble
(ilii'P-1137use.1(1d:im.:
ployed in the British American trade were 165, and the ton- Lord. And what did the House of Lords say in 1820? He York, , 21.5.
nage 91,179; but if they looked to the year before that, they believed he might say that that House was must anxious to and Bedford, 7s. 6d. dis.--manchester, Btixten, laud,
atid,:far
would find that, instead of 165 ships, with a tonnage of 91,179, protect all sorts of native, or domestic, or celonial interests, land, 295. dis.-i`Jidland and Thirsk Junction, 265. ed. dis.--',tera
there were 318 ships, with a tonnage 174,C00.-(Cheers. ) The and yet they stated that the consequerce of a reduction in the timberland and Lancashire Junction, 255. des.-Xorth Orc'
Its. p.-South Midlands,lss. p. -Midland, 145.
Right lion. Baronet, however, dirt not condescend to notice a duties of the timber would be of advantage to the people of 0,Lt1.. MAIWINI 20.
period when the Whigs were in office. Again, let them look Canada and of this country. At the present moment, the re- ,
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back as far as the year 1831, and they would find that there turns which were upon the table of tire House showed that the East Coast, 145.-Great ''or'tahe,:lnaireso-The
were only two single years that the tonnage was so low as the Canadian and Baltic timber trade had flourished and paid-mull and BarnsleyJimetion, 265.-- Liverpool and Leeds, 2rry
Right Hon. Baronet had described it; but he would take-and increased since the reduction of the duty. But North Staffordshire, 51.-165.-South Midland, 3/. 33.-Slirews
he trusted the House and the country would think it fairer- the Noble Lord had also said that lie objected to and Birmingham, 21. 145.-Tean and Dove Valley, 12e.
SHEFFIELD, Masen 20.
he would take the averages of the three years since the the present policy of the Government, because the consumer s _
yo, gr
1 h., 7,
~C,Ku Excll A NOE. -Tire sales are-Midland, Slieftleld.nfell
alteration of the timber duties, and compare the progress would reap no benefit. And yet he ( Sir G. Clerk) had shown , 3-1-Grimsby and Sheffield, Quarter Shares, 171
lof the trade with any annual period before that time. He that since the reduction of the duties the quantity of timber -Riding Union, 4%.
found that the average increase on the last period of three years, that bad been imported into this country from Canada and
as compared with the previous three years of 1842, was e 6 per Quebec had vastly increased-in fact, that it had doubled.-
cent. on North American timber. But when he compared the ( Hear, hear,) But notwithstanding that great increase in the
years 1839, 1840, and 1841, with the years 1831, 1832, Red supplies, the demand in this country for corn hart become so
1833, which were the first three years in which they had any great that it could be scarcely met.-( Hear, hear.) He
record, he found that the increase in the three first years was would only ask, what would have been the effect, not only upon
156 per cent. So that it appeared that the Canadian trade was railway speculations, but all these purposes for which timber
progressing before the alteration of the duty at a rate still was applied, if the protective system had beeMpersisted in with
faster than it had progressed since, notwithstanding all the as- regard to the importation of foreign timber? If they had kept
sistanee it had derived from railway speculation.-( At up the old system of protection, he was confident that those
this moment the Hon. Member for Sunderland entered the great railway schemes to which the present unusual prosperity
House. ) He was glad to see his Hon. Friend the Member fur of this country was mainly to be attributed, would not have
Sunderland in his place now, for he would bear him been commenced. The Hon. 'Wernher for Sunderland (Ur.
out that the average amount of timber required for Hudson) would be able to answer for that. It appeared that
railways was 5,000,000 cubic feet. He would now no less than 25,100,0001. worth of timber had been expended
turn to the Baltic trade, and he found that the in railroads within the last few years. Then the Noble Lord
average importation from the Baltic in the years 1831, 1832, had said that the effect of the present measures would be the
and 1833 was 21,164 tons, while in the three years immediately lowering of the price of timber in Canada. But the fact would
preceding the reduction of the differential duties, the average be the reverse in consequence of the enormous and
tonnage of ships laden with Baltic timber had fallen as low as increased demand in this country.- ( Hear, hear.)
14,442 tons. Baltic timber, therefore, had fallen as low as Within the last three years, in consequence of
one-third as compared with Canadian timber, which had in- the increased demand, the price had at least doubled.
creased to 66 per cent. But now, how had they fared since the Hi would then ask whether the House need entertain the
reduction of the duty ? The average of 14,442 tons had risen slightest apprehension as to the ruin of the Canadian trade in
in 1845 to 33,792 tons. So that, while under the system of consequence of the present Government measures?-(Hear,
colonial protection they had fallen off, under the ehangedduties hear.) The Noble Lord had also stated, that if these measures
they had increased very nearly to treble their former amount. were passed, it would be impossible, for the shipping interests
He thought then that he had shown good cause why the of this country to be able to compete with that of Nor-
Canadian colonists had reason to be alarmed at the measures of way, Denmark, or the other countries where the shipping in-
the Government. He feared they were alarmed.-(Hear, terest formed a principal feature in their commerce.
hear.) The Canadian mail, received two days ago, But it was perfectly clear, from the evidence of
was filled with intelligence that in the Canadian colonies the most eminent shipowners of this country, that
great dissatisfaction prevailed, and that the colonists were el- in consequence of the reduction in the duties on the timber,
ready discussing whether it would not be better for them to be the shipowners of this country would be a' le to compete Kith
annexed to the United States of America. The Hon. Member the shipowners of any other country. It had also been stated
for Liskeard shook his head, but that was the information re- by the Noble Lord, that the number of ships had not increased,
ceived from Canada. They said that if this Government with- as might have been anticipated, in consequence of the increase
drew its protection ; if they who, only four years ago, offered in population, hut the total number, at the present moment,
them the boon of the Canadian Corn Bill, if they were now to engaged in English commerce was upwards of 31,000; and it
deprive them of that, as they were depriving the farmers of mast also be borne in mind, that the present ships were much
their own country of protection-( Great cheering from the pro- more expeditious and capacious than those of former years.
tectionists)--all the ties that connected them with England The Right Hon. Gentleman then proceeded, amidst loud cries
would be severed. His Hon. Friend doubted the statement of " Divide, divide," to state that, since the passing of the
he had made, but let him read the leading article in the ellion- last tariff, ships could be built (on the evidence of the
trail Gazette of the 25th February last. The writer, principal shipbuilders of Liverpool, &c.) at least 30
referring to the measure brought in by the Noble Lord, per cent. cheaper than they could previously.-( Hear.)
the Member for London, fifteen years ago, for the abolition of But notwithstanding these frets, the tonnage of the country
the pocket boroughs, said that an Honourable Member in that increased to a far greater degree than any other country ; and
House (and he ( Lord G. Bentinck) remembered that that it was, 'herefore, clear that the mercantile marine had not been
Member was old John Abel Smith), said that the temerity of injured by the policy of the Government in reducing the duties
the measure quite took his breath sway. But that measure on timber, but hail been greatly increased. Let them look to
was far more rash than the one introduced by the Noble Lord, the port of London, as being one of the largest ports, and they
and would take away the breath of the Canadians in would find that in 1841 the home tonnage was 722,000, and
a much greater degree. The writer went on to say, the foreign was 255,000, being in the proportion of one-third
that the majority yet remained in breathless astonishment; to the home; in 1844 the home tonnage was 1,800,000, whit
amazement, consternation and alarm had seized them-not the the foreign U image amounted to only 383,000. ' Ile thought,
km so that they were at a distance from the seeneof action -and therefore, that no injury could arise to the colonial or Ironic
that in all probability the deed would be consummated before shipping by the proposed measure.
their remonstrances could be heard. Would the Hun. Members Alm HULLER thought he hail a right to make a few
opposite, after this, taunt them with interposing unnecessary observations, and to ask the indulgence of the House for that
delay to the passing of this measure ? Should they not rather purpose, as he was the only free-trade Member who had not
delay it further, until tire remonstrances of their Canadian yet taken part in that discus,ion. He considered, also, that has
brethren could be heard, and for this purpose only was it that intimate acquaintance with the affairs of Canada, and the
such a determined resistance had been offered by the patriotic general interest he had taken in colonial questions, would war-
band around him.-( Cheers, and " Oh, eh.") Knowing the rant him in making a few brief remarks on this question. He
feeling of the Colonists, he trusted the House weuld pause be- was of opinion that the Noble Lord ( Bentinck), before
fore hurrying on a measure which would create so much alarm he unfurled hia union jack-(Laughter)-in hold
in the hearts of their Canadian brethren.-( Cheers. ) At a defiance should have exhibited more of the prudence
time when America was assuming a warlike aspect ; when Mr. and discretion of the statesman. Ho thought that
Quincey Adams, in language that he could (Mls' characterise as instead of indulging in vituperation of the Members of the
infamous arid blasphemous, quoted the word of God, fur lighting American Senate and the Royal Family of France, that it
up the firebrand, and letting loose the dogs of war in Oregon, would have been much better had he used the language of
he did not think that the happiest moment for her Majesty's dignified courtesy, and rather than attempt to lay the founda-
Government, by their fiscal changes, to alienate the tion of war, that he had endeavoured to lay the basis of per-
affections and loyalty of her Majesty's Canadian subjects. moment peaceful relations.-( ileer, hear.) This would have
He, for one, was as anxious as any one that peace should be been the more advisable course for him to have adopted rather
maintained with honour.- He thought this country could well than to have been bandying bombast with the braggarts of the
afford to repose on her laurels, and need he in no haste to enter American Senate, and justifying the tone of the poor Mr.
into war. But he must say that he would never consent to Adams by using a tone of congenial bluster.-(Loud cheers. )
obtain peace by a dishonourable sacrifice either of our colonial When the Noble Lord said that the policy of the Government
or domestic industry. lie was as willing as any one, if a doubt would induce Canada to consider the question of annexation
should arise about our rights, that the matter sin mid be re- with America, lie pulled out a copy of the sliontrera Pilot in
ferred to any umpire, he cared not whom ; and rather than confirmation of that statement. Now, he (Mr. Buller)
they should wrongfully take anything that did not of right Ire- would ask, did that paper give vent to the public indignation?
long to them, where a doubt existed, Ire would willingly con- It said that it was of such great importance, and involved
cede to the American States. But if all honourable, peaceful such mighty consequences, that it would take a week to think
meant should fail, they would humbly, but firmly, place their of it.-( Laughter.) During the last twenty year's, he thought
faith in the all-powerful God of Battles, and they would he might safely' say that the Goverment of Canada had not
address the Americans, not in the language of Scrip- given a single office away. But those who were opposed to
ture, but in the language of British thunder, from the appointment cried out that they would endeavour to rid
the broadside of a line-of-battle ship.-( Cheers.) Firnr themselves of British connexion. He contended that the Go-
in the j , ustice of their cause when the last resources of peace venment had pursued a course of policy in refer-
had failed, fearing no human enemies, they would send their ence to Canada which was dictated by the best
British seamen to America, to speak in a language not to be and most statesmanlike principles; and the circumstances of
misunderstood. His Noble Friend (the Member for Glances- their sending out there such men as Sir Charles Begot and
tershire) had correctly stated the number of British seamen Lord Metcalf proved that they were desirous of comenting the
employed in the Baltic trade. Out of 32,000 seamen em- relationship of it with this country by the strongest possible
ployed, only 6,000 were British, and the remaining 26,000 "ties. That policy had done more to establish good feeling and
were Prussian, Danish, Norwegian, and Russian. From the contentment than all the monopoly of their restrictive system.
register of shipping, he found that in 1820 the British shipping The Noble Lord said that all Canada was roused with feelings
amounted to 2,648,593 tons. In 1844 it had risen at war time of the strongest indignation against the present measure. Now,
to 3,637,231 tons, showing an increase of 988,636, or about he (Mr. Buller) must say, that if that were the case, it was
37 per cent. But in the meantime the populatioa had in- the most stupid indignation any country had ever entertained.
creased 39 per cent. He wanted, therefore, to know what (Lord George Bentinck intimated that it was the corn question
cause there was for boasting of the prosperity of the shipping they found fault with). Where, he would ask, did all the
interest, when the shipping interest could not keep pace with timber come from ? It came from East Canada, with the r. x-
the increase in the population. What had been the position of ception of a small portion of West Caeada, on the banks of the
the foreign trade ? In 1832 the foreign shipping was Ottawa. The province of West Canada had no interest whatever
561,047 tons inwards. In 1842 it had increased to 1,753,745 tons. in the timber duties. In a dispatch of Lord Sydenham when
From 1820 to 1844 the American shipping had increased from the question was formerly agitated, he stated that not a single
1,280,062 to 2,280,095 tons. He found by returns that in the soul living in East Canada had any interest whatever in it.
three years succeeding 1842, the foreign trade with this country These were the indications of the indignation, which accord-
had increased by 405,555 tons, while our own British trade had ing to the Noble Lord was so universally entertained. When the
only increased 212,000, and where the number of foreign alteration was proposed at that time, petitions came from vari-
sailors engaged in the trade had increased 1,100 the number of ous parties he admitted, but acne from the Parliament of
British sailors had only increased 741. Going hack to 1759, Upper Canada. The Parliament of Canada, East or Lower
when the United States of America was a British colony, and Canada, sent out a petition, and Laid that they were ready to:give
its population numbered no more than 2,0e0,000. The num- up the monopoly of the timber trade provided this country
ber of ships engaged in that trade was 1,07 e, while the number gave them a free trade in corn. Such was the universal oie-
, of British ships was 28;900. A' the present day, and af•er a lapse noon entertained in that country on this question. The shipping
of 76 years, he found that the number of British seamen trade of Canada was a system which reflected scandal upon
engaged in the trade did not exceed 25,000, while the popula- them. They sent out a parcel of old leaky vessels, and they
tion of the States hail increased from 2,000,1100 to 22,000,000. manned them with a net of disorderly runaways. What was
He thought these facts were sufficiently conclusive to the effect of this mode of procedure? Did the mer-
chants prosper? There never had been so many show that they ought not to legislate for a colony
bank-
without giving that colony an opp irtunity for expressing ruptciea as had occurred in New Brunswick and
an (pinion on the matter-without waiting to hear what was Lower Canada under the operation of this system.
the opinion of Canada. The Government were now fireine There could be no doubt of it that the interests of the United
through a measure which the colonists themselves viewed with States would be cared for, and that they coup': very easiiy find a
alarm and consternation, and which they thought, after the permanent market for their timber elsewhere. But the
Canada Corn Bill was passed, a breach of faith on the part of Government should protect the people of England by allowing
this country.-( Hear, hear,) Now, the Hon. Gentleman the Baltic timber to come in upon the proposed terms, and let the
Member for Kendal, has stated as a fact what the Hon. Gen- Canada timber find its market in the United Stakes.-( Hear,
tleman must have meant for a poetical metaphor-namely, bear.) He looked upon this as a question of the greatest
there was scarcely a Norwegian sailor who did not wear a importance to the people of this country, inasmuch as the
• medal recording the actions and victories in which dwelling of every man in the, country would be affected by it,
they had been engaged on behalf of the British or, in other words, would be affected by the vote which
nation. Now, that was the first time he had this House should come to to-night. He had heard a great
even heard of sailors, who, had been engaged in British naval deal said about Canadian corn, which, he should say. he
contests, receiving medals to commemorate the victory over a looked upon as rather extraordinary ; and he saw one Hon.
foreign foe, and he thought he need not go out of the House Member opposite blushing high at the mere mention of it.-
to prove his assertion. His Right Hon. and Learned (and he (Laughter.) However, what had been said in reference to
might add Gallant) Friend the Attorney-General. he believed, Canada was rather too much of a good thing, and he felt assured
assisted in accomplishing one of tlmme glorious victories, but he that the peeple of Canada would disavow it.-( Hear.) He
(Lord G. 13entinck) had never seen any medal or mark of begged to thank the House for the patience with which it had
naval distinction on the part of his Learned Friend ; and he heard him.-( Cries of " Hear, hear," and " Divide, divide.")
must say, if medals had been granted to the Norwegian The House then divided, when there appeared to be-
sailors, his Honourable and Learned Friend had beet, For the Ministeral measure
greatly ill used by the Government.-(Hear, hear.) The For the amendment
R ght Honourable Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Majority for Ministers
Government might treat the arguments of his (the Noble Lord's) TURNPIKE ROADS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
party with contempt, and endeavour to cast ridicule upon Mr. FOX MAULE moved the second reading of the Turn-
those who hoisted the. flag of protection, but he for one should pike Roads ( Scotland) Bill, and said that it would he a mea-
never be ashamed to represent the shipowners of England, nor sure which would 13,t attended with great benefit to that
should he ever be a-hawed to fight under the flag of protection. country (as we understood him).
Let the Right Hon. Baronet get up and answer it, but he de- Mr. F. APKENZIE said, that though not oppesed to the
fled the Rigkt Hon. Baronet to answer the figures which he principle of the Bill, he was not prepared, at that late hoar of
had put the House in possesion of, therefore he said that they' the night, to go into a second reading.-( Hear, hear.)
were not ashamed to fight under the flag of protection, Mr. F. MAULE stated that as the objection was not taken
and they called upon English gentlemen to remember that to the notice, he saw no reason why it should not then be read
what occurred five-and-twenty years ago might again come to a second time.-( I ear, hear. )
pass. Let them remember that during the thirty years' war, Mr. SCOTT also hoped they would not go into the second
which Europe and the world never saw equalled, and when reading at that late hour.-( Hear, hear.)
Europe was invaded by the soldiery of France-whew the lands Sir 11, CAMPBELL was decidedly opposed to the prin-
of the Nobles of Germany and Russia were laid waste, and ciple of the Bill, and would, therefore, oppose the second read-
when the inhabitants of Russia preferred committing their ing.-( Hear, hear.)
capital of Moscow to the flames rather than it should fall into Mr. FORBES and Mr. H. JOHNSTONE both hoped that the
the hands of the enemy-they, the gentlemen of England were second reading would not be then gone into, and there being
enabled to send them succour and relief, and to defend loud cries of " Divide, divide," the House was cleared for a
their country at home, while their trade, their com- division.
merce, their .industry was protected. Some Honourable On our re-admission there appeared-
Gentlemen, however, now preferred relying on the flags of Rus- For the second reading ... 45
site, the tri-colour of France, or the thirteen stars of America, Against it
but ho and his Honourable Friends preferred standing by and Maj0rity.......... -32
fighting their battles under the simple, the old, and the time- Mr. CHARLES BULLER moved for a return of the
worn Uuion Jack, and he called u eon the House still to defend outrages specially reported to the constabulary office in Ireland,
that weather-beaten flag, and support the amendment of his during each of the years 1842, 1843, 1844, and 1845 ; and also
Noble Friend.-( Cheers.) an abstract return of total number of persons in Ireland ap-
Sir G. CLERK said, that at the late hour of the night it was peering, by the returns of the clerks of the Crown and clerks
not his intention to trespas upon the attention of the House.- of the peace of the several counties, &c. to have been corn-
' ( Hear, hoar.) In the few observation which he deemed it his witted -for trial in the year 1845, as well as of those con-
duty to make, he should endeavour to confine himself strictly
the question before the House, which he believed was this victed, acquitted, dimharged for no Bill fiund, or no prose-
to
-whether they were prepared to reds ce the price of a raw offences,
or bailed and not tried ; distinguishing the various
material, which was eminently conducive to the comfort of
every individual in this country, 35 per cent. ? The Noble heiar.e C. ALEB POWELL moved for a return of all the out-
Lord who had just sat down, had stated that he wes opposed to rages charged as having been committed on the barony of
the reduction of the present duties upon foreign timber on three Ossory from the Ist vi January, 1845, to the termination of
tue last assizes. He thought that it was hardly necessary to
grounds-one ground was the revenue, the other the necessity explain to the House his object in snaking this motion.
of protection to the colonies, and the third the maintenance
of the shipping interest. The Noble Lord had disputed the Sir J. GRAHAM said that he wished to say a few words
first ground with a very few remarks. The with regard to what had fallen from the Hon. Mternnbser
had
Liskeard. He believed that the constabulary e_
Honourable Member for Oxfordshire had objected,.
in reply to the arguments of his Right Hon. Friendthe
no occasion for the return moved for by the Honourable
Exchequer', that it was necessary for the pro-tection of the revenue that no such reduction 83 from 255, to presented before that House
House could desire with reference,iotuoldsubbjeectsobthtaaitneshd.ouldFhoer
Iss. per load should be sanctioned? Why, if those were the
arguments of Hon. Members, what became of all the speeches
that had been made with respect to the great injury which of presenting information in
the furtherance of that objecatddhietisro.ensteorytehdattosohuigmhstebifytthheerHigohnt.
would be done to the Canadian trade, and that of this country, Member. With refereneev,t_oicthhenmotoictieonhaodf tbheemHgoniv.eri,he Member,was
on the passing of the measures? He thought that they could iin addition to the one of h
not be alarmed, if that were so, at the immense quantity of rim- i not aware whether the particular information sought could be
ber which they said would destroy and annihilate the whole of I hat. his object in raising the question
obtainedcfroirnuad teßes.t3Tant.
the shipping and navigation interests of this oountry.-(Hear, I
stlen d
hear.) He thought that the Canadian timber that would . :was that
disposed of, and
The rem.ha.'-'iimniti."ghot rsdaeverstr,ofutlh)lte,
db:iyytim,:ietrige
come into this country under the proposed measures would be ' the House adjourned at One o'clock.
considerably increased, because he entirely agreed with what

YORK, 3fAxma 20.
STOCK ExcnAtisE.—The sales are—Grand 'Union (NottitliWv3l,
i.ynn), h —Great Grimsby and Sheffield, Quarter Shares, 14;04
tester and Bedford, 15s. 6d.—London and York, 314—Mane, x, IP
Buxton, Matlock, and Midland, 31. 145.—Newcastle and 13erw,c
""
ld
—North British, Carlisle Extension, 21. 4s.—York And Nom
land, New (East and West Riding), 9.2.
EDINBURGH, MAJOR[ 18.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The sales are—Airdrie and Bathgate,
Dios
British and Irish Union, 46s.—Caledonian, 11—Ditto, E%t* f3f!
35s.—Direct Northern, 425. 6d.—East India Railway, 13s"-p
spd
Lothian Central and Tyne Valley Junction, 265. Gd.— Edinburgor
Bathgate, 36s.—Edinburgh and Leith Atmospheric, 2113.—,,„e3/,
burgh and Northern, 805.--Ditto, Newport, 17s.—Ditto, Luc"
21s.—Edinbtrgh and Peebles, 295.—Forth and Clyde Junetlelli,pd.
6d.—Glasgow and Lestunaliagow, 42s.—Great North of 6ce CO.
4613.—Inverness and Elgin, 20s.—North British, Extension
lisle, 465. Gd.—Ditto, ditto to Dalkeith, 61. 4s. —Perth and Irllpsr
335. 6d. Scottish Central, 161,4—Ditto, New, 8 Stirling and

fermline, 355.
GLASGOW, Manat 19.
STOCK ExcnAncia.—The sales are Airdrie and Batbgate.
.91;
British and Irish Union, 425. W.—Caledonian, 1014—Ditto!
56s.—Caledonian and Ayrshire Junction, 365. Caledol,l3l,oY.
Dumbartonshire Junction, 373.—Cornw all and Devon Centrioti
—Direct Northern, 40s.—East Indian Railway, I Is. Gd.--I',sgo"
General Terminus, 91. Glasgow and Belfast Union, 265.—ti0
Kilmarnock, and Ayr, New, 241.—Glasgow, Dumfries, and
35s.—Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ardrossan
' .er ue.' 0
Dundee Junction, 33s.—Great North of India, 4s.— ab,,sg .
°
Elgin, 20s. 6xl.—Kilmarnock and Ayr Direct, 373.—Lesir
41s.—Scottish Central, 106—Scottish Southern, 355. 6(1,,•--if
Midland, 575. 6d.—Stirling and Dunfermline, 33s.—Wi'''
Coltness, 47%.

FLANDERS MAIL. t?
BRUSSELS, MARCH 17.—The average price of wheett.gc,
week ending on Saturday, the 14th of March, was ofl'
per hectolitre. The average price of wheat for the "a tO
lowing weeks having been between 20f. and 241 s ete the
law of September 24, 1845, which absolutely prebilegtliV
exportation of corn, having left flour subject to the eeti
tions of the law of uly 31, 1844, the Minister of Finalo3ellte
dares that the exportation of wheat flour will be perm
from the 24th of this month. A
A pPe' 1
REPORTS CONCERNING THE MLNlSTRY.—Ye§,terual - 110
a negotiation containing the persons to whom overtat.er'st,)l
been made. We may mention, in the Chamber, bet,
D'Elhoungue, then M. Brouckere, ; not in the Chen' aDi4
Leclerq, Attorney-General in the Court of Cassatioe,'
3(
A
A
Van de Weyer. aeniti
It is reported to-day that M. Van de Weyer
D'Elhoungue do not think they can join cotnbinatioll.for;ti
same is said of M. Leclerq, but not so positively. Me. tri
' rf,,f
D'Elhoungue for whom an important part seems 'loo.tj
served (for he is said to have stipulated in the rttitllo
Flanders) in this Cabinet, it is believed that he has °Of'
to Ghent this very day. M. Rogier, it is said, reckeeso/
Veydt as Minister of Finance, and M. Hoffsehriste
Minister of Public Works, and on M. Chazal as Alllb
3"
War. la
The Independence says—"We are assured that pecaj,
present state of things nothing has been discussed 006
the persons of whom the 51inistry shall be. %jell Do
Whether M Rogier accepts or declines the task iceotlt
been offered him, it may be foreseen that eight or 1„ 0
must pass before the new Cabinet can be constituted'ocllo,
The accounts from Germany received to-day le
were to be foreseen. There is no alternative for
",
gents but voluntary exile or a prison. thejot
ofr
The Prussian Government shows forbearance t°,..
bitants of Cracow, who fly from the regimen of ;1:00
law, which now govern the republic; it has already
several hundred emigrants.

T tit
DUTCH MAIL. Of,
HE ITAGE-E., MARCH 16.—n the of the be
of the States-General to-day I
the Centralsitting Sectioossciseo
up its report on the project of law respecting tb! oil 04
sugar. The day on which the public discuss The
project will commence is not yet fixed lost 01
journals to the end of November sat'
ce 0)111
the district of Jassinga heavy rains '1,3 ltd
a great rise in the river, which on the night of t''' l bet?
carried away one stone, and five wooden hridgePic
Buistenzong and Bantam. In the month of
native trading vessels were chased by five lur,`;,,br:a
Adonara, one of them was taken by the pirates, ," "per)
taken out the cargo and crew, consisting of twen_,ools‘
set tLe vessel adrift, which soon afterwards ran agr'oglir
Boleng, in the Nand of Solor. The other vessel, tbo
chased by ;Yu, pirates, did not fall into their hands. ,O 4
On Tuesday' last his Royal Highness the Prinei°k.ge
and Princes Henry and Alexander, accorernie; 91
Aids de Camp, general de Klerck, and severa' to mN
Officers went to the Downs to witness experiineso4o
with a newly invented kind of rockets, which are
far superior to those of Congreve or Paixhams
~„ 11.
DUTCH FUNDS.—AusTuanear,
Monet* cr,
ISt
Actual Debt, 23¢ per Cent.
BM°, 3 per Cent ••••.• • • • • ...... • • W4l :0
Ditto, 4' per Cent...
Amort Syndic, 41/2 per Cent.. •.•• • • • • 99 g
Ditto, 3% per Cent .• • • • • • • • 145 ii
6
Commercial Company, 4% per Cent 164!9 -:‘
East India Loan, 4 per Cent. ••••• • • • •
Exchange on London, at sight ••••• • • 11 I y
Two months .. .. 12 631
On Hamburgh, at sight •• • • 35
Two months. •. • • ••• •••• • • • • 35
••-Dutch Papers, March 18.
rOl/..fd
HAMBURGH BORSENTI.ALLE, 3-.A-.c
Austrian 5 per Cents +.. •• • i„„13 ,;64
Bank Shares ..
•• I6'"
107 , 10

Anglo-ussian Loan .•
Dißussiantto 5
Istspe
rie reCe .
inn.t Certificate..
ills /
Ditto, Hope and Co., 3d and 4th series• •
Ditto, in Certlficate• ••••••••• • • • • • • • • ?r,Bll Efb
New 4 per Cent., Hope and Co. .• •• .• 11S
Ditto Stieglitz •• • • • • • • • • • • • • •• • •
Spanish New 5 per Cent ••••••• •• • • • • 0,""
Ditto 3 per Cent •••••••• • • • • • • • "'/
Anglo-Portuguese Loan, 2% per Cent • • ru,
Dutch Actual Debt, 2% per Cent • • • • • •
Ditto 3 per Cent. ••....... 4
Polish New 4 per Cent. Loan, 1844.• • •
Anglo-Danish Loan, 3 per Cent .... • •
National Bank Shares •••••••• • • •• • • • • II --- 15.
BELGIAN FUNDS.—BRussrm,
Actual Debt, 2% per Cent • • • • • • '•
Rothschild's Loan, Five per Cent ••• • • • .
Loan of Thirty Millions, Four per Cent • • • '
Ditto. Three per Cent.. • • ••••• • • ••
Ditto Thirty-seven Millions, ditto • • ••
Ditto, ditto, 184 q• . • . • • • • • . • ..... • • •• ". 10Jd
Ditto, ditto, 1542 •••.••••••• • . . • • • • • • • 07
1
Ditto, 1844. • . ........ ...... ••• 9
Ditto, 1836.. ••..• • • • ••••• • • • • • ••
Ditto, 1838 .• • • • •
• .•
Ditto of the City, 1832 .....• ...• •• ** 19°
Ditto, 1843 . .•
Bank of Belgium.... • • "..
odt'
—Brussels Papers. March 19.
.—B 14' )1/
PRUSSIAN FUNDSERLIX, 31131301 S• /
/
St. Schuld Sch., 334 per Cent ...... .• • 9034
ir
Pruss. English Bonds, 1830, 4 per Cent ......
Foreign Exchanges.. .... •. • • • • •• • • 6 95
Exchange- on London, £1 Sterling, 3 Months. ;034 /
Hamburgh, 300 Marks, 2 Months. /
7,00
Paris, 300 fr., 2 Months • • • • • • •• •
On Paris .... •.. • • •• •
Twomonths.... ..... •• ••
-Universal Prussian Gazette. March 15, ..
• $l4
fa 1
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TEARS.—IAINIEDIATT RELIEF BY HOLLOWAY'S ro--„' 4110 , r
.4 p•oog.' 11 y • ,
letter from the Rev. George Prior, Curate of •-- „c or ~,e0 op•
Carrigart, Ireland, May 2, 1845 :—" To pro
ii
Dear Sir: Within a short distance of inY lw°s-, In ~ pr V.llO
farmer, who for more than twenty years had IRO* rtie•p4„i ',O
health, and never got but a moment's relief. 311:.ce‘Olbits fltAl,l;
box of your pills for him, which did him so to 'Ate ") "407,1
him say, that for twenty years previously lie nevel.sig44, VI
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enjoyed it so much as since taking your pills* ',t, :;10e4
PRIOR." Sold at Professor Holloway's Establisbla-oo
and by nearly all who sell medicines throughout the
1,
~.0 4,
BIRTH'S t, of ' )1,
On the 15th inst., at New Peckham, Mrs. Ste,'""citetre' el
On the 15th inst., at Westbourne-place, Eaten.' ilifc JO
Webb, of a daughter. , 0 41'
On the 17th inst., at the Vicarage, Takely, Ease-' of ' bof
Rev. Charles Clarke, of a son.rera' ~,l,
On the 17th inst., the wife the Rev. George IP' ne'
Camps Cambridgeshire, of a son. olre' ,ett
fordo jil ~
On the ilth inst., at Humber Rector'', Tier° ..,,I1 ,du
the Rev. Allan Cowburn, of a daughter. ml,- tie
bra. '..- Of
On the 18th inst., in Groat Ormond-street,
4t, Wife
e hi
to l Ondel
ettoelhflaeetthl3lya.
of a daughter. ,e,
ti'al
HoOdigtotthtes
DlBott lonos,timat.,Ror
ato:L:grove, Claphatn, —e
140
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MARRIED. icl, oil
ir Aer ..,,, o
On the 17th inst., at St. Peter's, Pimlico, Er—.
t, to 01,p''
Esq ,of Bayland Hall, Norfolk, to Isabella Hanle .00,.4,d
CIIP 1/'-'O7
Robert Bruce, Esq., of Chester-square. ellot' Dad? t' I.
On the 17th inst., at St. John the Evang Lo t r.,
3sleiurn:teogcsaornoloithtehVaartgeajraoth. SW° (01
Thomas, Bart., of Bodiam, Sussex. ...•
On the 17th inst., at St. Ann's, Soho, Miss ..
..,,,,
Jefferson, of Cheltenham. fil '
ndaßaigdicitualrpho,
fEsthq.a,
joatrm 0/ .
to ,t
TfW . ,til
side, J. C. 11. Freund, Esq., ➢M.D., to Louisa A. fl'
the
On the 18th inst., at the Lutheran Churchitadiser• 0,
WED. Co..Once'
e7tlhationrst..,Wat. Bromley, Middlesex, L..-
.A /0,04. 4
On the sth ult., at Margate, Miss Sarah Etcher, tut? opt cit i
at Naples, the infant daughter of T...f. ),, 130 ilt
AViip, 'op. I,o'
inst., in Sloane-square, Chelsea,
_,ct of t' of
On the 9th inst., at Hampstead, Mrs. Sale, n"' ~ o' de
St 64- 11 J
George Sale, aged 90. r'unge ei' 7
On the lith inst., at Darmstadt, Robert, vit. 0'
4,0
'Right Rev. Joseph Allen, D.D., Lord Bishop of ~,,,, lia
„Tow' ,pe .0
On the 12th inst., Della, the wife of Mr.
Sussex, aged 51-. p 4.0014 .
of r
Han til ...
On the 13th inst., at Sherffeld-green,
Mr. Edward Vines. infant thOgi'ter Pet,
On the 17th inst., Mary Camilla, the ,OO, Ari
4 v
Gibb, Esq., of the Bombay Army. BOW il",
On the 17th inst., Sarah, relict of the late ,op,
St. Jelin's, Horslydown, aged 89. thar°Pl 04
01 c
On the 16th inst., atWoolston Lawn, near S°" cli- 10
widow of the Rev. Henry Woodcock, D.D. relict 0
On the 16th inst., Mary Ward Artnstrong, .
_, pie
strong, Esq., of Great Cumberiand-street,as4ooll
llt
On the 17th inst., in Prospect-place, )I.' 4o• r
Esq., M.D., aged 65.
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