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John Rae said that the West Indians had a perfect right to
protection, and that protection should be afforded them. Then
Lord Brougham contended, that the whole arguments in
favour of the measure begun, continued, and ended in this, e
that sugar will be reduced in pi ice, and brought within the
capacity of purchase to the people of this country—the price
would be lowered, the quantity would be augmented. Now
might a man of common sense ask the Noble Lord at the
Board of Trade how opening the ports for sugar of all kinds
could increase the supply by 30,000 tons or hogsheads ? And
how was this increase to be provided for, that was the question?
There was but one conceivable way, which was by means of
slavery. The execrable enormity, the greatest practical evil
which the world had ever experienced, must be admitted as an
engine for the cultivation of sugar, because the Government
%zished to have sugar at a halfpenny a pound cheaper. Why,
it was said, did they take cotton, and coffee, and other articles,
which were slave grown? Why sugar could not he compared
with cotton and coffee; it to he sure was West India cultivatton,
but that was all. Dui gentlemen know that these negroes
were worked in a gang in a line, with the lash driving the
feeble to keep up with the strong ? The question at present
was with regard to sugar, and it was no answer to
taunt him with cotton and coffee. Let them come
with the question of cotton and coffee to him, and be
would deal with them ; but because one evil existed, was no
reason that another enormous one sh uld be perpetrated. The
duties on cot ton and coffee still Existed, and that was enough
for him.—( Hear, hear. )—and the duty made a material differ-
ence. lie would not point out those dreadful scenes which
occurred, and made it painful to think that they belonged to
the same class of men as those miscreants who were employed
upon the slave trade. There was one instance in which a vessel of
110 tons carried 120 slaves, more than one half of whom perished
in the voyage. It was ludicrous to compare the slave systems as
carried on on the African coast with the American slave trade.
What he was going to state with regard to the African slave
trade was not merely his opinion, non meas isle sermo ; it wa,
the opinion of our own negotiator, his Right Hon. Friend pc.
Lushington, who had prayed him not to delay urging the
necessity of doing away with the arrangements for putting
down the slave trade on the coast of Africa. Dr. Lushington
charged those who were favourable to the principles of this
measure, with being the accomplices of all the tortures which
were inflicted on the poor negroes employed in the cultivation
of sugar ; and it was the opinion of that high authority, that
those individuals were as much guilty of felony as those who
fitted out the vessels, &c., for the carrying on the infernal
traffic in human beings. He had now discharged a duty which,
he was most anxious to perform. He had been long engaged
in the cause of freedom to the poor negro. It was as a ques•
tion of slavery, arid not of slave trade, that he looked upon
this measure. lie was told that slave labour could never enter
into competition with free labour. He admitted that, but
that would not be the case unless two descriptions of labour
were in the same position ; one must not have privileges which
the other did not possess.—( Hear, hear.) There was an end
to the argument about slave labour being able to compete with
free unless they were put upon a parallel. He little thoughts
that after all that had been done in the cause of humanity by
the Legislature of this country, he should hive lived to see the
day when he should be obliged to rise in his place in Parlia-
ment for the purpose of denouncing a liberal Government for
encouraging the horrible traffic in human souls. In the words
of Lord Chief Justice of England, the conduct of the Govern-
ment was most extraordinary and unjust. This Bill was un'
doubtedly a measure which would have the effect of encourar
ing the slave trade, and as such he should certainly sal
"Not content" to it.

Earl GREY then rose and said that the Noble and Learned
Lord had complained that the speech of his Noble Friend (Lord
Stanley) had not been answered, but when the results of that
evening's proceedings would go forth to the public, they would
be able to say whether or not that speech had been answered.
—(Hear, hear.) But if it had not been answered, he (Lord
Grey) would presume to make an attempt to answer the speech.
He would appeal to their Lordships whether the Noble and
Learned Lord who had just sat down had, during the whole of
the time in which he had occupied their Lordships' attention,
adduced one single argument against the measure. He hot
certainly, after his usual custom, entertained them with maul
jokes. This measure he (Earl Grey) contended would benefit
the whole of the British population, and ought their Lordships,.
without serious arguments being brought forward against, re-
ject the Bill, and thus deprive the people of this country of
that proper supply of cheap sugar to which they were entitled.
Bad any Noble Lord ventured to submit that we were bound
to exclude the use of slave-grown articles as much as We
should stolen goods ? Not one had done that. Indeed, one
of the Noble Lords opposite had admitted that such conduct
would he an act of nothing less than Quixotic benevolence.
They already had slave-grown coffee, &c. A few years sgf
the duty on the article of coffee (in the cultivation of which
slaves were employed) was materially reduced. Copper Orel
too, was introduced under a reduced duty at the very time the
the Noble and Li arned Lord himself was in the Cabinet.
But the Noble and Learned Lord (Lord Brougham) Was as
slippery as an eel ; there was no catching him ; he said that he
knew nothing about this introduction of copper, and vet he re-
gularly sat in that House every night, and must have been col;'
nisant of the whole of the proceedings.— ( Hear, hear.) The
effect of their reduction on the slave-grown article of coffee was
an increase of 34,300,0001b5. per annum. That reduction
had been sanctioned by the Noble and Learned Lord, and Ye,t
that reduction had, according to the Noble and Learned Lord
argument, tended to the increase of the stave trade, but o_,l
all these reductions on slave-grown articles, he professed a happy
ignorance—he pretended to know nothing about them.—(ll%,
hear, and laughter.) He had in his hand a return o
refined sugar, and he found that in 1845 they had export,
was
273,000 cwt. of refined sugar, and that 50,000 cwt. of it
.s.
sent to the British colonies Their Lordships should resne ta
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ber that 99 of that in every 100 was slave-grove; sugaariaseid
was the rankest delusion that ever was attempted to
üby it
off upon the country ; in fact those who had been denied that
had become ashamed of it. He fully and entirely
hain,rd
this
the measure would encourage the slave trade,
would endeavour to show them that by Pa55.-o end
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would be doing a vast injury to the cause. Such was not the
language of Mr. Wilberforce—sizch was not the language of
the anti-slavery party. He, for his part, still believed
that free labour, properly encouraged, would be able
to compete with slave labour. It was his opinion that
India would yet banish slavery from the market; and
even with regard to the West Indies, he did
not hold the gloomy and desponding views which
some gentlemen took upon the question. On the contrary,
his expectations were cheered by the knowledge of the facts
which he had stated. The West Indians would now know
what they were to encounter, and they were not so desponding
as the Noble Lord ; on the contrary. they were luckily them-
selves up for their tasks, nor did they fear it. These reports
would most admirably repay their Lordships' perusal. It showede
that it was only by men, whose intelligence had ben
t
developed, who had received the truths of Christianity'
that they could expect to receive the due amount.
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labour.—( Hear, hear.) The Council of Jamaica 'l'
adopted that principle, and were carrying it out in Pr''"
tine. The company who was about establishing a manufactory
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for machinery in Jamaica was sneered at. It had been said
that it had existed long before this measure was introduced'
but there was nothing in the horizon which portended the
coming event. This measure would introduce pa division
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who ; for it would give rise to a demand for several agerki;
who were not now in existence, and who could not posi;
exist under a state of slavery.—( Hear, hear. ) He believed
that there was a great number of planters ready to take up tog
subject, and proceed upon it with vigour. The intention iv.,
to put all parties on an equal footing. The reason theY,ra,
not sweep away at once these differential duties was, that it
apprehended that some financial difficulty would arise t bv:t tnlea
Noble Lord at the, head of her Majesty's Government: efUieud,
gladly avail himself of any plan by which this could to avon'rhe
Lord BROUGHAM said he had a right to explain. ;as
Noble Lord had stated that his opinion on that subject syse fop
that no man woman, or child, in the country, would care Jeri
But it would surprise the House to learn that the. Anti-0,30/rd.
Society had selected him to present a petition to their 1:000,
ships, and asked him to sign his name to one of their petitjjetl,
The cl-arge that had been made against him ws.s tnafounri of
for he had given his assistance to his Noble Friend the Vaaa.
Ripon on this question, and when the Nolsie Lord sooriises
vented, by an accident, from attending in his place in the Puget
the whole weight of the business fell upon him. Heth„°,o is
that the Parliamentary reform being before the ile-h-ips•
1831 was sufficient to occupy the attention of their Lords
this
Lord ASHBURTON said he wished to know
measure applied to shipping.
Earl GREY said, that was a question embracing suc:h
prehensive topics that with their Lordships' permigili;„„l en'
would decline answering the question. With respect
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gagements, the reason of the termbeing fixed at a rtr
that it should be of that duration which would not inau'Llont
to break it. What they proposed was, to give the
Governments an opportunity of coming to an arrengo- ss
satisfactory to the parties employed. That, howeverh'er +.1,1
matter to be settled by the colonial authorities, rat„,-000e,%.
to be attempted to be regulated by her Majesty's; Gri-o
Lord ASHBURTON said, that taking away all Pyublic ;1
from the colonies was a subject so important to theeorntion -
large that they should be acquainted with the inters
Government. coo,
Earl GREY stated the Government would, of
• to e°
propose to remove the differential duties. ses'l°d b°
Lord STANLEY said that under the British Pcr , gad e
uniform rate of duty was fixed for all the col°l.,°esce'
thought it right, under all the circumstances of I.'"
tiles up..
provisions of that Bill should be adhered to,
eato had,
Earl GREY said that, so far as allowing therooent
restricted competition was concerned, the Ckfie
made up their mind on the suect.
Lord STANLEY wished to bj
know whether the 63°111°11e:1
their t
to have the power of levying duties, according tnuniforni ra e
different and conflicting interests or whet.h,r; a"
of ditty should be enforced upon the eoloanii,eapared upon that
Earl GREY—No Bill was not Ie
subject.
riosug too
ht bad that a Bill on eel'
Lord STANLEY thougbebforward after the
portant a subject should be
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wi.bed to know whether the cruisers
Lord DEN were to be continued.
the coast of Afric&rtainly.
Earl GREY'ds from Lord STANLEY and Earl 154g-sl.
f's° differential duties,
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theA fstuebrißeafiti was read a first time. Lord StaßleY
then arraneed that the amendment of nd gaging
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should be put upon the motion for the sec° ene mono..
instead of uponaitihde_flf.sot reading, in accordance wjti&nlre.nonlisi•be
of the House,
read a second timeuount
BiLliobredreSadTANLE Y Tth(u.lortstdr,ateysynetxott.he House..
The Ear of CLARENDON then moved that the
the'
that uii•
moved as an amendment, that `"
that day three months. He was anxious
objection should appear on the records of the House- and theigr
Several other Bills were then forwarded a stage,
Lordships adjourned at Half past One o'oloek.

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