The Sun.
London, England, 1846-07-29 00:00:00

tl,, Air. HUNIE wished to etnrect a mistake ..illiell the Hon.
iareber. ( Mr. BortheittliO hal fallen into with regard to the
Itgar whieh came from Bengal. There was not one slave in
Ihs
who'e of Bengal who had a complaint to make; the eoin ts 'l'i:re "Pen to him, where he would be readily received; and
thiswishcd to state that the admission of slave-grown sugar into
!tri
' Wry weeld net have the smallest effect in giving an
Flu Petus to slevery in the colonies. Ile was sorry that the
"bi,,
We Lord was not in his place to he r his opinion upon that
PT, as he felt sere that the Noble Lord spoke from a sincere
cnnvi
inction that tha proposed policy would have the effect of in-
e" had lave the slave trade. Sir F. Buxton said, all the exertions they
Made to put down the slave-trade, en the coast of Africa,
Y coercion bad failed, and had only aggravated the evils which
existed, It was on that aecoutit, therefore, he (Mr. Hume)
wisher( for the removal of the squedron of twenty-eight ships
less filet quarter helievire as he did, that that was an use-
S anti wasteful 'expendiirWre. The question was asked by
tee Nr
~t'e“ohie Lord, did they despair, then, of putting an end to
rY ? Ile (Mr. Hume) replied that they did not, provided
What
that the necessary steps were taken for that purpose.
I at he said WAS, let Cuba and Brazil continue to bring their
'.4,,v,e' from Africa, for it was shown that that eraild not be pre-
' f but let the West India planters be permitted to do so
ielu‘s, and as soot, as the slaves landed upon the British colonies
then) be deelared freemen.—(Laughter.) In the early part
a,_ me present session he moved fur a number of orders of
`totineil tee. ive to the admission of free labour to the colonies,
and 41,
~
111), '14,0 orders had actually prevented the admission cf
;_ lir. The effeet f these orders was just the same as if an
tapress prohibition bad been made for the exclusion of labour.
tit% ii's only Within the last eighteen months that any relaxa-
jeer,tad taken place in these orders ; andif they had occurred
bilis ago, they would not now have to regret the consequences
fullyoh resulted from the want of sufficient labour. There was
an, Who read the evidsnee of Mr. Deacon Hume care-
natural ho rho could fail to see that the colonies were not in a
Pelrera' "ndllion, and that if the colonies had free trade them..
5 e,, they had nothing to fear from the withdrawal of pro-
' ; A 5 they would in that case be able to compete with
test "dd. Mr. flume, in stating those opinions, de-
fold • ed slavery as much as any man, and yet he
•the Biitish people and the British Legislature
it
they Would be prejudicial to the interests of the colonies if
0 i reved all protection at once, without enabling the ens,7i ham procure an adequate supply of customers. A Noble
ae",'l,said that the' slave-trade had been suppressed by the
alyaur,on they had coasting off Africa. He (M.r. Hume)
, ugnt that that assertion was not correct, for if they sent
trerY
"'ld not shl there which France and England could spare, hey
P e4eestedr 1 o put down the slave-trade. The remedy he sug-
el_tite to
this state of things ssas to allow the West India
meet' the Cuba and Brazil slave-master in Africa,
and while the latter purchased the negroes as slaves, let the
ni"rn:er buY them as freemen. As long as there
.was the im-
knee - Itre.t connected with •the trade, which it was well
knots- '`gold attended it, all their efforts for its suppression
ell :be unavailing. Ile thought they should act
else Prm_iciPle in this as well as in everything
Ifslite ;°" carry out in practice the remedy he suggested.
pet do Ilght Hon. Baronet was of opinion that nothing would
letirwo shivery but free labour, why did they not get free
asleol and_ put slavery down? Let them withdraw their
cost
aoo,„..ssnre used to put down the practice. Their fleets
anti ud:Ui Per annum, let theta expend one-halfver of that sum,
altogether. He
Was , the
Would succeed in destroying la
eee,:oxions to see the question settleds once for all—he was
061 Us to see the people relieved from the annualhis annoyance
the ti,,," debate, and on that ground he would give
hie a .4. t
,Lord on
"°l'lo the question before the House. Many poeno--
;1,7 s.tio uppose that he was not willing to relieve the eve
rine • on the contrary, he hoped to_ . .
the
,Iso,. ,
tax tints When they would have a duty of lOs.
consumed under the re-
-I„,,:.v"th the quantities that would be per cent., which
(oi,'l°r, would amply repay the sacrifice which had been made
nee higher rate of duty. Sir 1. R. REID said, that the circumstances in which
te eolonies were placed and the state of affairs at home
would render this measure, if it were carried, one of complete
first ruin. That very day he knew that the effects of the pro_ Posed measures were felt, for in consequence of the turn wine
the debate took the last evening, at the meeting of some of the
Most respectable traders connected with the colonies, the fiat
had gone forth to stop the cultivation of some of the estates.
AR that was required by those connected with the trade was
fair play, and unless that were granted to them it would be
useless for them to attempt to cultivate their estates in com-
petition with those on which sugar could be grown, and ad-
suited into this country at a cheaper rate.
Mr. BERNAL wished that the question could be de-
finitively settled. He did not care for the period which was
taken, for an assurance that the question was to be finally put
tltty rest was all that was required, and he thought that every
'West Indian could accommodate himself to the circum-
-I,.4"ies which must ensue under the new revolutions.
.e Eat badoes had a large population with labour corn-
litively plentiful Jamaica po.sessed an immense tract of
%eta ' - -
ttnt II and a very limited population in proportion to its ex-
ses„ of sail. The circumstances of the West Indian Islands
he
ale therefore (Lifer nt, and different measures of relief should
Nepildied to them. This must be done in whatever was pro-
le ~to make those islands meet the altered circumstances
teZhieh they would now be placed. With regard to the
es
Ranh Africans,
it had been found that they were not so good labourers
white,e Africans. The former had certain religious notions
for "Preverded them from taking such food as was necessary
Pregret physical exertions; while the Africans. had no such
(4 jt‘lTie" as these. Looking at all the circumstances
Tut 6e Caw, they melt look to the coast of Africa
the the supply of labour ; and while
.they sought for
ki4PIAY from that quarter, he quite agreed that
teen
of should be placed at various points. on the
*,ere ,°f, Africa to sec that nothing but fairw
telseeatten to induce labourers to go to the emstnealn_rdeiea
fur,kt But, in carrying out this arrangement
entaf
weref
_ An,"e submitted that twelve months' engagements wastesf,te' He thought the time ought to be efoended,, and
take 'Cue Noble Lord at the head of the Government ssould
et:41.3,4,1s point into his most serious consideration. But in adie,lout the doctrine of free trade in relating to the West
but th'atust trusted it would not be done in a one-sided manner,
eoloetei ' would he carried out to the fullest extent. While
°lf feslei Nal' was to enter into competition with the produce
rldis lola countries, he hoped that other produce of the West
cht'Y en t'a'ailds would be admitted into the markets of this coon-
sie ffi,",e same terms' as the produce of the British Islands.
t`leee""sidered the full application of free trade would lead
frattie to ,
Place West India spirits on the same
coot as the spirits of the distillers of this
tl.uonleh'e "I,t. was a hard case. that a duty of Os. 4d. a gallon
while the duty or, Scotch
21,4, w Placed on West India rum,
kioosi Godas 3s. 4:1., and that on Irish whiskeybut
~.aes
tter, part ! was such a system to be defended.
tThes
measure
i
et'.4sastee°9d parcel of the British emptre,and if this
stela e, he defied free trade doe-
I, sto •
tai- any one who. advocated_
lif°h ad ; aM intact such a difference in duty as that which
tetaiust stated. They must be prepared to meet all those
free trade to the
i'llest p%es',Uld to carry out the principles
hnia proasthle extent. He called on thesewehforpeoessesstemd
eWeteistt
I,",u,creeLeartY to prepare for the change. They m.us .
The'eir -e`," energy and activity, and by a reduction of price
neY could emnodities endeavour to extend their roarkets;
ht-. stintuot avert the change. The tide of feeling wa
ai°ePet byjahtYo set in in favour of free trade for them to
e. gad %11. ',Position they cculd offer_to arre.st its progress.
tiPectitiii s Stated his own view 3 on the subject, to which he
est IndaY called the attention of those. who re resented the
ese fog" `''`crest, and he would sit down bytnhankinge the
s
(4)'ervatiar the patience with which it had listened to Air. tz. 'i!.
~,g 016.,'5; FtNISON said, if any Member entertained a feel-
-"art whlell'te to the West Indian interests, the Hon. Gentle-
',he
',het hc, °, ,nad just sat down lead dine much to disarm him of
°IR sat'-es,`eiitY ; and he hoped,. for his own part, to avoid say-
testesi7,uug offensise He would have been satisfied to have
'bent '"e "te that lie was to give in support of the Goverhn
e-
had t 41411 are on the speech made by his Noble Friend w
. Otrodue i .
hiler,ll the ,-..'e` ,t, and the speech delivered by his Right Hon.
kliZestir-reesi‘-'inhancellor of the Exchequer, but many points. had
the course of the debate, on which he wished to
file cetZt.se Orservationsl Ho assured the Hon. 'Member that
es the eever forget that he had been one who gave his vote
narae emancipation of the slave ; an event which was the
4154.) ofr, great changes in this
.country.-7( Hear,
Vii'hed alit, there was one thing which he
Nlnfant. never to foropt and which be wished to press on the
)er1,,,°4 of the liotiss'e't and it was this—to take care that this
‘Slea lent in the West Indies should not prove a failure.—
Zeldeearii "ar.) A feeling which was excited in him by a connd-
this
e't of the interests of humanity, of thefnegrtoraraece,yaear
la
Year TilutrY. As had been the case with,etreae.:tee
all,
,ad min. they had tried treaties and tariffs, e-, ft l they
ta,tir eisters rising up end saying, that thesetreaties and
'acli:,„Were vain and inefficient, and that the country must, lex
the e e
nt way, show through her example what the rest of
feee,t nations, ought to do. He said, then, what was true as to
to trade, was true in free labour. There were two points
which
Nese he should address his observations—first, to the
Afejes
.uf conduct pursued by this country on the coast of
the It, , and second, to the course of conduct pursued towards
hon th"_est India colonies of this country. Much had been said
oe u first of these during the present debate. The Right
kti";...barenet (Sir R. Peel) said last night, that he
.had
a 14,017 at this conclusion that the best armour.
.against
141 a Y was the promotion of free-labour. That opinion was
late j!evs one ; it bad appeared in the book published by the
Tby „e"''' Powell Buxton, and it had been advocated in a letter
rod"'e Noble Lord at the head of the Government to the
siii sr in 1839 In
ils 8.4
31te,dt hteoChauntceclilzio f
stlhaevvy Exchequer v v
egravatedpirti..serlameceoammissiofners, inl their report f,rormffBcietrorna
t,eone, said that the callruet ostirtsleiessraTe trtadvee an
the
ille number of eaptuirvie, ,
et smoved for by the Hon. Menaber for
41coraetarsoese, showedAr the expenses of the expedition in 1843,
Riving ships of all classes, 58; of 945 tons ; 8,454 men, at a
tost of 575,4661.; and this sum would be increased by the
salaries of extra officers engaged in the same object to about
l'lo,ooo/. But all the expensesh of the expedition would far
efforts it was acknowledged
_xceed this amount. Yet their `ll_%ll hands were inetearie,femniroetneeeiythstandine that they were
and health. In reference
te4u,L et a great expenditure d t
is ‘,,'" course pursued towards he possessions of this country
1-4,;,"e 'West Indies, he would just recall the attention of the
kat'e4 to the considerations taken up in a Committee which
I,ho,,_the West India Colonies. That Committee was of opinion.tv
'Lodi m'e materials for immigration from Africa into the est
e%
,ailtere considerable; that immigration would be of great
isah'te a,!e to the negroes ; and, that under proper regulations,
1,"5 the"mtlel be no danger of a revival of the slavery trade.
f4ll.ouseloht the West India interest had. a right to come to that
A:q 1 ho dernarld every possible assistance for the supply of
'n, tri ;, ur. Believing, he did, that the efforts on the
h'eate4",,euast luteu assuccessful, he was not disposed this
ru'llose-l'N't a vote of anCertainamaunt, say 50,000/., for the
Year e Dr
el tte't shaey,enting immigration to the West Indies, but next
,e did
riotdisposed know whther the opinion of the House
th ngt ha him
"‘ll4 ."
h in what he had said, but he
oat Nobl Lo any hesitation in asking his Riget Hon. Friend.
ker,iBt fae:„ l'sutd at the head of the Government to give his
-lierie, -willtahlealceno_nsiderationf to the question of supplying the
lieu • -ens dimeney of ree labources.—( Hear, hear.)
0 said he had not the good fortune to be in the
ZiPlai:lBe;b4l,,the Prime Minister made the speech developing his
e-3,Ntse°:,.-1, important question then before the House, in
4enner ~ta'as °T having been detained upon wrgent btusiinn
04 he ',rad
.oe. but he had read the speech with greatersest
ikfr'ee,,esp,cia• ire to the conclusion that the public generally, b'tti
ailed ' d by tbiY those who were interested or more
Noble immediately
, under 3 subject were much indebted to the Lord,
we great obligation to the Noble Lord, for the attempt
fs').- ti4,melki•ng t° Place the sugar duties upoo a permanent
fie se til'ell Place of having those annual discussions which lead
p,dil ioteeft uncertainty, and so seriously injured the West
eel,,Polahrl:rae--( `hear' hear.) But he did not think the plan.,
he'l'ed f,:r 'I N, ble Lord was the best that could be
;Isl,ain) e,
~ cart N`
out their free-trade principles.—( Hear,
..18tPer
.: ..eetned to him to be monstrous to continue a tax of
r, eer2t., which was equal to lid. per lb., upon colonial
talellear lb. lane er cwt. upon foreign sugar, which was equal to
1:541..b,,,i;
eZ at the same time, and in the same breath,
tiud ) 11 thoP sugar for the millinn.—( Cries of " hear,
leho,stil. ee,:s ef nght it was highly desirable that they should
,tl4top ,seers for 171 afford constant and increasing, supplies of
4;hto,fwsat,s,_
refoer°ltobir, as well as a constant and increasing
population of this country. That, he
;71‘t, but t,s a subject well worthy the attention of Govern-
-4'll t(, e aonet•etticould not be attained so long as these high duties
o.,tjparts an.cerl. If the colonies ought to be treated as in-
ttftiee
.(!i the mother country, he wished to know with
°I the avt'"slY could tax sugar, corning at a largo expense
eel Idies, while they did not tax his corn, which
'l4 Cumberlud ? The produce of the colonies' be