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h!iter from his situation. He (Sir James Graham)
• kh7 dot the slightest wish to keep back one particle of 4,,7 evidence which had been taken on that case, and
"Il'eteutht that it was highly desirable that all papers con-
if,(ll,,,with this isiquiry should be hid on the table.
to , " .-r4BRANI.), before the question was put, a ished
0 , !It whether he could second tha amendment to the
nStisal resolution,
'ihe SPEAKER having replied in the affirmative,
tea % WAKLEY said he was for the original motion
treor the amendment also, because he thought it ex-
16,11:erlY desirable that the House should be furnished
/t aPPear ll particulars respecting this important matter.s
ura ed to him that the better an would be ad-
, the debate fort hree weeks orpl a month; andto there
,0145 reasons for the adjournment of the debate of which
k el) Ron. Members were not aware. There was now
owritntitaiwmniitrgtienesitting, of which he was a member, which
into the appointment of district officers in
the,l unions. The Commissioners had as much as
th' could aecomplish in furnishing theCommito e with
the necessary documents ; and he felt sure that if
iek,rilruPosed Committee were appointed, it would be
itte,l impossible fur the Poor-lass Commissioners to
ktaa,s tu tln'tn. He (Mr. Wakley) had never
than ill% 0550 which required a more searching scrutiny
lion. ite °II* now in question; and he felt sure that the
the ,Member who had moved for the appointment of
reel."'„,°lnniittee would be of the same opinion.. The
toed" that the Right Hon. Geutleman opposit,e, had,
tot
ye: that it was merely a ~ workhouse squabbk, !vas
l'y creditable. He (Mr. Wakley) admitted the im-
del,7ce.oe
to the matter that had been brought under the
014,,,,rat10n of the House.He would lint undertake to
Ilor--48tioeth the prowse of public opinion on the point in
Illoreo," It involved the consideration of something
P aulet-
oss.4_" a workhouse squabble. The powers of the
ts hi ', Comrnisioners, which had been
.cha.racterised
now ii)leg' extraordinary, and even unconstitutional, ha.d.
kat a ell exercised for the space of 10 years. Unto
re: motion had been brought before the House with
liSoet,:hto_i the manner in which the Poor-law Commis-
Wat th,, 4/11 exercised their functions. He considered it
(IIItro;"utY of the House to inquire in what way the
Losleth.lcuers had fulfilled their office. It was therefore
Poe. dug more than workhouse squabble. The Bight
O,N gentleman had astated that several improvements
"4° (listen Place, and that, amongst others, the amount of
tree ,-arY had been increased. But did he know that
Iliq-tkili_th_e.i.nereased dietary is not sufficient? It was
I,7eolise e which had led to the dismissal of a. n assistant-
en' oft I°ller, who had performed his duties in a satisfac-
,sse elner, for a long period previous to the inquiry.
rapke.rumlaissioners complained of Mr. Parker, and Arlerf.
tete teliCoOluPlained of them. M`Dougal, the
h,,rges tie complained that the most. outrageousmand
'"tlise "ad been made against him. He a 0 4 lkil
4 the c, ovvcd the opportunity of defending himself.
44,0;0 os A
AP : eatigust the Right Hon. Barone rerdnesrtioinogk
‘l4 4nquiri
h, liens es on the subject of the bone I-
• wiihe:
ref There had been also further complaints
'4lleonderence to the treatment of the paupers, and
NI i .`icet of 14ttPuatu,d
of theth governorsein owfhtiheaht workhouse. He
that inquiry had
11/11114;?!1(Illeted weijr rnenferrence to throwing all the re-
Ski Laity
b este, , and providing funds, and the expense of
Zhite tn' uPon the medical officer of the workhousef.
Qth -,,,aPPear before the public as the accuser o
es'"reer s"oer, and upon him was thrown the
;jt3 oleoPonsibility and expense of the examination.
7st k,ete ever such a shameful thing known before,
„.4,tt,„,°in, eel. is to appear before a Court which was
Ns ~,et'Y speaking, a tribunal ? There was no judge,
L'eSeerg' *lnd no witnesses allowed to be called for the
kloto 6,-. Be (Mr• Westlake) did not, however, flinch
-l! Be
. which was thus unjustly laid upon
airy --`lB vritneYsses were procured at a great expense
tltenewsits gone into, and proceeded with to a great
1411 'o'"ull Mr. Parker then considered it was neces-
VP'stal Order that the master (Mr 1114llougal) might
'llties,"'s that
to postpone the further inquiry for
tkllt back 110 Came 'up to London, and was immediately
i.lied lake,: by the Poor-law Commissioners,. who mm-
-01.0.7 to go on with the inquiry, notwithstanding
;44,,:"'5e of five days to prepare the evidence. Under
Lllisamruonistances is it liky that the public will be
4740-' °l)osiderin, the power exercised at the Poor-
11' ithy bArllnlnissioners'-gofficea power never before granted
isallse OF4Y of men—superior to any power of either
j*.einatio Parliament, which enables them by a rule or
.44eat pll to suspend the operation of an Act of
Not-
-144411!. t.hott, .We should be jealous of that power.
lee Inquiry should be made, but even the bare
4 i,s,_l 4of that Power being misapplied should lead to
L ,Zestigation in that House. If, however, there
elttl°, 6sdhe Po inquiry —if we are to remain
mac without instituting any Committee, the
Nils und the boards of guardians will not be so
latLeatified. The public will see how the paupers are
toultalZuseeinehenlvhethey have been suffering in that work-
passing of the oor-law from the want of
le The alteration of thepdietr sufficiently' proves
te;:_ Be hoped the Right nonourYable Baronet would
i;cent to withdraw his opposition to the present
ilOn, and to appease the feelings of the suffering poor.
4,, kw reflect up pa their feelings if they found that this
:e shut their door aesainst investigation of their
qsaj: ances. He did not wish to go into any of the
tions against Mr. M'Dougal, because he had not
top, 44, opportunity of rebutting them, which he said he
,%*ssnate done, had he been allowed to do so. He will
'Niel, have an opportunity if this Committee is e-
lite, "IL the resent motion was an appeal from
%lit, court he pp support the motion. It is
k 110.. , vrou u not
'lle berver, one. The inquiry was not complete, it was
t:kit, A'„,re a gPmtleman who had not power to do justice
go M. l'arker was the last person to be sent down tiis),.tlght to have been sent down to make tha. t in-
IkitZtea:lu had to inquire into his own conduct, it was
b,...4 as...Nieeted, therefore, that he would make are
Coe 7fillkst himself. He was a gentleman, who, by
4-It Wee his
office, was supposed to have known all
Upon as ig'ing on in Andover ; he was sent down to
IA ft.'ill'estigation and he was the culpable party.
Ne,..-mitt
u ieli, ground, therefore, he considered that another
hnlar. Ni9,,4 should be made.
Cot (Sir4IITIE considered that the Right Hon. Ba-
ts 74 tile J‘lnes Graham) did not always look
done
4bble Ile did not always consider it a workhouse
kgl
Arit t seemed, from a pamphlet published by
lea,s tr Cr' that he received a letter from one of Lis
kaiithe itinle,hna.issirioners in which he states that he had
ttei,;exprZ3' non. Baronet,.. the Secretary of State,
ass aerie oed his opinion upon the subject as being
to it aerie matter ; but now he thought fit to de-
tet:e Ault Mere workhouse squabble. The subject
It stiras-,lyer Union had been before the public for
heti '44 ih' It had assumed many shapes, but. fromn first
e
41* '',.t th„er,° had always been a desire o
k1ip4‘;041,.„-,4ight Honourable Baronet and the Poor-
lact,li -,74sioners to keep back all unfavourable
4 -h""Jet. In refusing a Committee of Inquiry
Ittli4a_totii t--° Right Hon. Baronet was only acting in
kistehq with his former conduct. With reference
Pets
sallotal„, to which the Right Hon. Baronet refers in
4444tIltisent, he (Mr. Christie) would ask why were
,4:o„„PoPers produced before this ? It was more
14%0 ee-agti.ll since they were moved for by an Hon.t
Nestle:44m- The Right don. Baronet has kep
NA , tio,l back to the last moment, and he then.
401111041 and proposes to substitute these papers, in
at red fory, which the Hon. Member for Andover
Ne-v -, tie did not wish to be unparliamentary,
114004, Ititettelp; !ay he thought that it was nothing more
Z'lt L.L...r„ Juggleo on the part of the R:ght Hun.
VI Ile' 11 ar, hear," from Mr. Ferrand.) He did
Vltsai bare the papers time enough to examine
'ltih„ lipohte,s, and he wished by means to im-
,l all V ' rarliament and the countrythese that he was
laptirtt 00 th.t.at could possibly be done to promote an
'lli ye
tle .10 subject. The simple facts of the case
1 ts° 4tli:-.41r Commissioner Parker was sent down
ilit't ho: u.lAu.gnst to make inquiries on the su b j
Aktile crushing, and other alleged misconduct
k tio aver union. He sent up a report of the de-
&4lto--,,'" on that occasion. On the Bth Augustthe
,tv, `otE,' called on the Right Hun. Baronet at
400 --ie,' and a conversation took place there
;11eqns t"e Horne Secretary, Sir Edmund Head,
kie„oit Aar
Immediately after that conversation
tkllilliZttltt 41104! Baronet came down top trhheerHhouadse,coamnd
44 As•
sistant Commissioner_ •
itIIN to him that he had made inquiries with re-
elritthe tips Paupers of the Andover Union having
Nt's),,esh and a row of putrid bones. He (Mr.
4440tnssigsideredmthrt the report of Mr. Parker went
11441,4: -ler, and contemplateda a greater number
the
/1400,:rittil,11.17elisitihng to this
laid
horrible
Iptriaaltticierotnhoaunrathlee
thkitl„the table been
tnhlestllouyse. He says in his re-
itt,4
h, :1.% inmates of the workhouse had eaten the.d
oathiltt "hid 'h had been found attached in a putrid
N-I)sb",o.ttl :,.°4e3 and other stinking meat. He also stated
itie 'to sQ"'e Was necessary to be taken, in order to
'ilkautAtltc,,°Ltile paupers, who was in the habit of thus
ki7to fro,:°_ was considered to be in an unsound state
'aea, Zsg Dag near the. bonehouse or the hog-tub.
L *ese 70 were described as men of depraved ap-
'N)Vrh ' in addition to other inmates of the work-
-6 ' t the°tatad that they had been in the habit of
'41411110' nteat and breaking the bones, in order to
tOre iltserow
ttry Parativei from the bones, which were brought
state from the tables of the
tilIli;1:10t1)114 inhYabiftree.sths of An.lover and the public
Oh, *IA i....:,./V nothing of this report, with the exce.p-
-r, Mt "tleY could obtain from the sources of daily
NC0%t0211111„4,a,d they had just reason to consider tbehn:
killelZistl3',lBfactory. Mr. Parker had placed in . his
tOlt-'4 ''ok -3) hand emorandum of a conversation
pia, 4 a m
lietoLlltia ohetween the Right Hon.ou.rable Baronet
Iti_koj‘L, tiohaeother Poor-law Commissioner ; and in
s'° lion bey - of his (Mr. Christie's) general statements,
4414 iZloatbt°,_read the.mememorandum to the House.
I"4ltiestiole Member went on to read the memoran-
Vse, had 11, from which it appeared that. Sir James
eon )'kent ° Mr.
4. )1° ate'
t Parker that he did not lik.-
I, Vvlt h of the poor in bone-crushing. He said
t 4t4Citlll d -,?t ePeedil put an end to, there would be
44--4th ."'v in Ye
Heuse on the subject. It wasld
tiNtlll 4 atoett !should the inquiry be continued it would
41'11/4 With In trade for the limes for the next six
n„.°lao.l.es (3141, reference to the rep in of Mr. Parker,
traisat so, -ono had stated that the report must not
hpl,ot, 41siottsItrd in that state. Mr. Nichol, one of the
‘ll.k tlltkliti, ti ' akin
expressed an opinion to the same
Ntale IN e tritttni,ally, Sir James Graham undertook to
414044 e Pea r before the House, in the most favour-
shl Itkrezthetiblet The Honourable Member went
Tye' de no benefit could be derived from bringing
kAti'ititinti;°lttlits.ition of witnesses taken upon the second.
44- it ');47 had -rkeation had taken place upon the subject.
kit°°,llsraiki .lueen Productive of no beneficial results,
tk. i;a4,,-.ered -to satisfaction to no parties whatever.
Nl','l hie' tellet"t the Right Hon. Gentleman should
114444 'list udt 61° far in his condemnation of the master
No, h- tr 3, itu'ld been decided by the tribunal este.
N4lrtilt:„(l, one.. LThe case of the master was a p.enti-
:l fins, ' -,e had petitioned the House, detailing
hprepaitucl stating, that if he had been allowed
-4
11 - his defence d
' nst the eed
esul ,
''" are been ableagai
to have tnetall
thegm