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republic! Abhcfr and stigmatise the sword! Not,. -11:4` it
scourged the Dutch. He had learnt its power, and t hat it
was the right of nations to govern themselves, while hers 'timd
upon the ramparts of Antwerp where liberty was HO ''„Y
appreciated, and its possession was purchased by an et re-
sion of noble and generous blood. Abhor and stigmatise A le
sword! No.
Mr. Join,/ O'CONNELL rose to order. He had several time
checked his desire, which he felt to be strong, of interruptinA
the eloquent speaker during the latter-portion of his speech,
because he had said to himself that although these were dan-
gerous doctrines, which should not even bespoken in that as-
sembly, that he would perhaps qualify or modity his senti-
ments. He did not think that he was wrong in saying, that
instead of modifying his expressions, he had increased them
in vigour and violence.—(Cheers.) It was to him a source
of the deepest annoyance that he was obliged to interrupt
him, but at the same time the deepest conviction upon his
soul was, that such lancruige was not safe.—(Cheers.) He
feared iat the time had come when the test should be aye
or no.—(Cheers.) The expression of such sentiments coming
from so gifted and talented an individual was the more dan-
gerous. He thought that the time had come to the point—
yes or no? He could act upon the point of form that the
man who denied assent to the resolutions adopted on Mon-
day week was ipso facto no longer a member, but he did not
wish to press a point of form upon so serious and sad an oc-
casion ; but for the safety of the Association, if there was a
doubt about it.—(A voice—There is no doubt)—the better
way would be to put the question.—(Cheers.) It WM sug-
gested that the resolutions put in that Association should be
maintaineJ.. He was in a puzzle how to act, but there watt;
no puzzle abo•ut this, that the language just uttered by Mr..
Meagher could is of be safely listened to by the Association—
(Cheers)—and that the sentiments which he had avowed
were sentiments diroctly and diametrically opposed to the
sentiments of the founder of the Association; there-
fore, either he or Mo. Meazher should ceas.t to be a
member of that Associatio.7. If the meeting were oPPos.e"
to him (Mr. John O'Connell, he would leave the Associa-
tion ; but the time had come ws_en'either he or Mr. M:
Nagher
should cease to be connected witii it, for he could not con-
tinue in the same Association with hi.n after the utters tics
of such sentiments.

Captain BRODERICK—Nor can I remain any longer.—
(Cheers.)
Mr. STEELE—Nor I.—(Loud cheers.)
Mr. Salmi O'BRIEN then rose and said—l am afraid that
the alternative presented to us is of such a nature as neces-
sarily to compel a termination of this discussion, but I can-
not allow the meeting to separate without expressing my
opinion of the course that has been pursued towards Mr.
Meagher in his fair and legitimate argument.— (Cheers, and
confusion.) We have been invited here for the purpose of
deliberately considering whether any gentleman can con-
tinue a member who entertains the ppiuion that there are
occasions on which nations must of necessity have recourse
to arms for liberty. Mr. Meagher advocNes peaceful means,
but neither he nor I consider, when invited to discuss a.
question, that we are not at liberty to state 011 t opinions in
vindication of the sentiments that have been arraigned.—
(Cheers and confusion.) You should well consider this, for
this day produces an event in history. You are charged
with never giving fair play to an adversary. You are
charged with being slaves to any despot who holds the reins.
—(Loud cries of a No, no," and confusion.) It is not my
opinion, and I should designate as a traitor the man that
said
so; but are you going to justify that opinion by putting
down a man who is dispassionately discussing a question to
which he has been invited? If the discussion is to terminate,.
I shall have the satisfaction of having recorded my protest-
against the manner in which Mr. Meagher has been put down
by Mr. John O'Connell.—(Cheers.)
Mr. J. O'CONNELL—The question is not, as Mr. O'Brien
states, whether a young man shall be put down, but the real
question is, shall a young man put down the Association--
(Cheers)—for Ido declare ,it is my firm conviction that his
language was most dangerous. We have not invited this
discussion—it has arisen accidentally. There were certain
resolutions on the books, which were based on the opinions
of the founder of the Association. If gentlemen entertained
different opinions let them drive him twit from amongst them.
—(Loud cheers, and cries of "O'Connell for ever.") The
question was, would the Association stand by those resolu-
tions or adopt another leader?
Great cheering, accompanied by groans and hisses, fol-
lowed this declaration, and a scene of the u tmost contusion •
ensued, during which Mr. Smith O'Brien, accompanied by
Mr. Meagher, Mr. Mitchell, and all the me.-ca era of the
" Youg Ireland" party present, left the hall. •.:rh eir depot,'
tore was the signal for an enthusiatic burst of .`applause
from the supporters of Mr. O'Connell, which was, how-
ever, immediately suppressed by that gentleman. %When
silence was somewhat restored,
Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL said—lt is no source of joy to me;
that we have witnessed this departure. There cannot be a
feeling of triumph—there cannot be one single pleasurable
feeling in my heart at witnessing the loss to the Association
of such a man as Smith O'Brien—at witnessing the depar-
ture of those excellent men from amongst us. I know the
country will deplore it, and I know- the country will hold
me blameless when it believes that I NYould rather give my
life's blood than risk the loss of such a man, and the
men who went with him. This is not s time to speak
it is a time to weep. Let us, then, retire from
this hall to mourn over the loss we h,ave sustained..
Let us not think of meeting till Monday next, when.
I hoe Mr. O'Connell will be here to try tai repair
the breach that has inevitably occurred. But I do im-
plore those kind friends who have cheered me to-Cf.sy to'
use no angry word—no term of insult or reproach temarde
the men who have now left us. Conciliation and peace are
our mottoes, even with our enemies. Should it not be so
sith our friends? We deplore their loss, but we will not
increase the bitterness of our hearts by using towards them
one single term of reproach, or exhibiting any feeling of

triumph.
Mr. J. A. O'NEILL then addressed the meeting, deploring
the course pursued by Mr. O'Brien and his friends, and
eulogising Mr. O'Connell's conduct • after which he was
called to the chair, and a vote of thanks passed to the Lord
Mayor.
The meeting then (at :ix o'clock) adjontsezi until Monday
next.

RAILWAY SIiARE MARKETS.
MANCHESTER, JILT 30.
STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are-Ambergate, Nottinhanithe•
1% dis.-Blackburn, Chorley, and Liverpool, 1% dis.-13...".1.,,uurn
Darwen, and Bolton, New, 7-16 dis.- Cambridge and Oxford, tu"•-
Derby and Crewe, 4 3-16 p.-Direct Northern, % dis.-East Wm"'
shire, 6% p.-East Lincolnshire, dis.-Edinburgh and GlasfWw,o
Halves, 8% p.-Exeter and Exmouth, 9s. 6d. dis.-Fleetwoot._•
Preston, and West Riding, Its. dis.-Grand Union, 14s. 6d. dia.
Huddersfield, Halifax, and Bedford, 2% p.-Huddersfield and Man-
chester Railway and Canal, I t c. p.-Ditto, Extension, 3 p.-Lara.
cashire and North Yorkshire, 14 dls.-Leicester and Bedford,
dls.-Leicester, Birmingham, and 'Trent Valley Junction, 19a. dia.
Liverpool, Ormskirk, and Preston, 1% p.-Liverpool, Manchester,
and Southport, % dis.-North British, Carlisle Branch, 2% p.-North
Staffordshire, 3% p.-North Union, 154 - Oldham Districts, 1% dia.-
Oldham, Birkenhead, &c., 3.16 tits.- Preston and Wyre, 35%-Ditto.
Halves (A), 5 p.-Preston and Wyre Extension, 11. 9s. dis.-Shef-
field and Lincolnshire Junction, 3-16 dis.-Sheffield and Manchester,.
Quarters, N 0.3, p.-Shrewsbury and Birmingham, 5-16 p.-Shrop.--
shire Union Railway and Canal, 1 3-16 dis.-Sou stern and
Dover, Halves, No. 4, 15-16 IL-South Midland, ,
Riding Union, 2 7-16 p.-Whitehaven and Furness,- 5,
LEEDS, JULY 30.
STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are-Blackburn L, ton, 614
p.-Eastern Counties, York Extension, 28s. p.-E Tuicashirthr
p.-Great Grimsby and Sheffield, 2 dis.-Ditto, Extensions,.
325. dis.-Iluddersfield and Manchester, 2 p.-Ditto, Exensions, bs.
p.-Huddersfield and Sheffield, 7 k 5 p. cash-Leeds and Bradford, 46%
p.-Leeds and Dewsbury, 4 p.-Ditto, Extensions, 68. 6d. dis.-Leedo
p.-Ditto, Extensions, 21.4 p.-Newcastle and Berwick, 13% P.-
and Thirsk, New, 3% dis.-Mauchester and Leeds, Fifth Shares, 8%
Newcastle and Darlington Junction Extensions, 10141 p Nortla
British, Half Shares, 5% p.-Ditto, Carlisle Branch, 445. p.-South-
.-
Eastern and Dover, No. 4, 175. 6d. p.-York and North Midland,
East and West Riding, 12.4,1 p. -Ambergate, Nottingham, and Bos-
ton, 1% dis.-Boston, Stamford, and Birmingham, 17s. dis.-Direct•
Northern, 75 dis.-East and West Yorkshire, 331. dis.-Glasgow and'
Dumfries, 15s. chs.-Great Eastern and Western, 295. Gd. dis.-
Lancashire, Yorkshire, and North Eastern, 425. dis.-Leicester and
Bedford, 13s. dis.-Liverpool, Ormskirk, and Preston, 235. p.-Lon-
don and York, 7s. 6d. dts.-Ditto, Half Shares, 114 dis.-London
and Portsmouth, 17s. Gd. p. -.Manchester, Buxton, Matlock, lost
Midland, 15s. p.-North Sttafordshire, 3% p.-North Western, 10-
dis. -South Midland, 13s. Gd. p.-west Riding Union, 41. 10s, 6d.

11ULi„ JULY 30.
STOCK ExcitatioE.—The sales are —North British, Carlisle Branch,
67s.—York and North Midland, East and West Riding, 13—Black-
burn, Darwen, and Belton, 6 - Ambergate, Nottingham, and Bos-
ton, 262.—Direct Northern, 325. 6d.—Leicester and liedlord, 85. 6d.
—London and York, 345. bd.—London and 3lanchesteg (Rem). 93.
—Malton and Datil eld Junction, 475. 6d.—Mancli ester, Bu/ti;nl. IM at-
lock, and Midland, 3/. Os. tid.—North Western, 235. —North Stat..
fordshire, 5/. 15s bd.—South Midland, 12s. p.—Sheffield, Potteriee,
and-Crewe, 17s. 3d.— West Riding Union, 41. 14s .6d.— Sou ih-EastCrit,
No. 4, p.