The Sun.
London, England, 1846-04-27 00:00:00

WOOL.

EDINBURGH AND rironauzz law
(STILATHER AV DEATIATION).

Stirlingshlre Midland Junction.
Siamannan and Borrowstouness.
Wishaw and Coltness (Greetihil Branch).
The list of Bills having been read over, and none of the parties
being in a osition 'to go on, the Committee, after waiting till two
o'clock, adjourned till Thursday neat.
Several of the Bills, it was intimated, would not be proceeded with,
and none of the others would be ready till the day on which the
Committee agreed to adjourn to.

GROUP XIV.
SOUTH-EASTERN AND BRANCHES.
The Committee to which this Group is referred met to-day at
twelve o'clock, in room No. 30. Present Mr. Protheroe (Chairman),
Lord Emlyn, Mr. J. O'Connell, and Mr. Grogan.
The CHAIRMAN expressed his regret at the absence of General
Lygon, who was absent in consequen<•.• of the death of Lady Beau-
champ.
Mr. Stephenson re-examined by Mr. ALEXANDER—Has made bor-
ings in the neighbourhood of Otteram Creek, and the results of those
borings show that the soil is favourable for the formation of a
railway. The borings were made near the creek, in order
that the most unfavourable ground might be at once ascer-
tained, as the vicinity of the creek would naturally cause
he ground to be softer and of a more muddy texture. The gra-
dients between Faversham and London, or rather the levels between
those points, are much better on the South-Eastern line than en the
North Kent line. The South-Eastern line enters the Dockyard and
Arsenal at Woolwich at a lower level than the yard itself. So that
all kinds of stores, such as shot, guns, &c., could be lowered by cranes
on to the waggons, and dispatched without any inconvenience.
The Cumamax asked if tl,•s South-Eastern Company intended to
bring forward any evidence to show that the Government had de-
cided to give any opinion in favour ,f either of these lines,or was the
Government indifferent on the subject.

XIX.GOU
The select Committee appoi Rnte,l Pto consider the merits of the Bills
com rised in this Group, resumed its sitting this morning for the first
time since the Easter recess. Lord harry Vane in the Chair.
RXDGEWAT.ER AND MAIDENHEAD.
The CHAIRMAN (=ounce,' that the Committee were of opinion
that the preamble to this Bill had not been proved.

BZIDGWATER. AND TAVNTON RAILWAY

AND 11A.vt330T712..

The next case taken was that of the promoters of the Bridgwater
and Taunton Railway and Canal, which was opposed by the Bristol
and Exeter Railway Company, who were represented by Messrs.
Talbot and Orbit], and several navigation p• oprietors and landholders
in the vicinity of the proposed line.

The CIIAIRMAN Wie)..si to be informed, before going into the else.
If the Admiralty :rave their ronsent to the coLstruction of the vro-
Dosed harbour at Taunton. The parties were aware that it would •e
usele.<s for the Committee to Banal n the scheme without Bud'
consent.

3tr. Sergeant WRANGIIAM, who, together with Messrs. Ilawkens
and Wells, app, ared thr the promoters, replied by producing a letter
from the Secretary or th Admiralty, stating that the Lords of the
Admiralt) approved of Loth the line and the harbour.

The CustituAN said V es they wonld pruc, eti at once ~ Rh the ow.
Mr. Sergeant WitANGUAM. in open:ng the tiasw, said there were
some very peculiar circumstances connected with the promotion of
Me would not
this project, which entitled it to the tavourable consideration of Par-
liament, and, with the permission of the Committee, he would go
mattel4 l long
I'
converting
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IS
pitasno."ddteotrael
tioafbitilitiewse
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iliti it'Ae icluti lilt' o'we I's
makeakin the
T tunton ; but it being pubsequently round. that the tra
justify the completion of so extensive a project, another Act
l eotenapnaanly
and
a-
docks ; and, in the en.l, the Company laid eutofloo
into a railway. About the Caine time the Ca
,Iooohe
I.
irinCoeTon.
pended 22,0001. in the improvement
construct-
ing works fur the üblic benefit. This money was raised by shares
and loan, and up to 1842, the Company flourishing beyond all pre-
they ‘Tetroe
theta
to lay the interest on their
violet cxpe Cation,
the Bristol and Exeter Railway
pay interest and dividends, and put
ofa period
ttooetnitaebirles
debts, and a lair dividen,
determined to apply tor an'
way, and thus enabl them heir pre-,
p etary. In 1842, howev‘ r,
opened from Bridgwater to Taunton,
; anti, instead of now being able to
ten ling the line proposedfyro Atchteytococuolnivhertardtlhyeirreccealuvael aintsouMacriaeinl.t
of refugl there,h them to maintain the canal. They therefore
their rival. Thee to fight in the same armour used by
'o convert the canal into a railway,
allex-
esaeccemssiTbaletuatttoarillotntitno,sStoltioard,uannidertocircumstances.
c make.
lrcu ma
The cost of t
this works was estimated at 390,0001, and to raise
money under
them their existing Acts of Parliament, which gave
Power to raise in various ways 570,0001. ; but they had hitherto
only exercised those
balance
the Would Cover the estimateof the constructionofthe proposed conversion end
other works attendant thereupon.

XXXIV.
The Committee met atGROUP twelve o'clock. Present, Hon. William
Cowper (Chairman), Hon. Montague Gore, Viscount Duncan, Mr.
Walpole, and Mr. Sanders Davies.

GREAT GRIIYESIIY AND SHEFFIELD
(11IIIVIBER PEIZRIES).
Some doubt was entertained whether this Bill, which respected the
ferries over the Ilumber connecting the railway, was affected by
Mr. Duncombe's resolutions ; and Viscount Duncan left the room to
consult the Speaker of the House.
The Speaker was of opinion that they affected all Bills brought
before the Railway Committees.
As parties were not ready, this Bill was adjourned till to-morrow.
It was stated that the returns required by the resolutions lately
adopted in the House, would be ready, in the case of the Great
Grimsby and Shefteld (2) Extension, and the Hull and Lincoln Rail-
way, by to-morrow.
Application was made to the Committee to have the consideration
of the Great Grimsby, Louth, Horneastle, and Midland Junction,
postponed till the 18th of May, that time might be given for compU-
once with the resolutions of the House, which was granted.
The Committee adjourned till twelve to-morrow.

SuComee No. .
The mb-
embers of this Commmiittett 6 e met this morning at twelve
o'clock, in No. 11 Room. Present, Captain Jones (Chairman), Mr.
Philips, Mr. Forbes, and Mr. Pakington.
The lines before this Committee are—the Warwick and WorceSta.
Birkenhead and Llangollen, and the Kent Atmospheric.
The Committee proceeded with the Warwick and Worcester line.
The formal process having been gone through, the Counnittce went
into the allegations contained in a petition ngadnst the klll. that tho
surface of the groural was not corteetls shooli the sections.
Several witnesses were called on behalf of the promoters, who stated
the error arose only from the shrinking of the paw. There was

The imports of Wool into London during the past week have been
on a very moderate scale. Still, however, the market has been
abundantly supplied with most descriptions. English Wool is very
dull, and prices have receded %d per lb. Low Foreign Wool is
tolerably steady, but all other kinds command very little attention.
TALLOW.
This market, as to prices on the spot, is in an unsettled state. The
quotation this morning is 42s 3d. In new Tallow there are buyers
at 435, duty paid. Town Tallow is plentiful at 41s 6d net cash.

RAILWAY COMMITTEES.
(THIS DAY.)

GROUP VII.
The Committee appointed upon this Group met this morning ilk
tr.e of the new Committee-rooms of the new Rouses of Parliament.
i'h Committee consisted of Mr. R. Palmer, chairman, Mr. Stanton,
Lord John Chichester, Mr. Seymer, end Colonel Powell.
the following Bills have been referred by the Committee of Selec-
tion to this Committee namely, East of Fite ; Glasgow and Dundee
Junction ; Scottish Central (Alloa Branch); Edinburgh and Northern
( Newport Railway and St. Andrew's Branch); Edinburgh and
Northern (Kinross, Wondmill, and STewburgh-Branch) ; Edinburgh
ni Northern (Lochgel;y and Le'lie Exo,sion); Eillohurib and
Northers (Dunfermline Branch); Edinburgh and Northern (Strath-
-rile Deviation) ; Kinross Junction (1 and 2); Stirlitigmnd Dun-
ernil iie , and Perth; seo fish Central (Denny •itrstich);
tod Edinburgh and Glasgow and Scottish Central Junction.

NINROSS ZUATCTION.
It was announced that th. two Bilis which hid be n introauced
❑der this tale had been withdrawn.

This 11111, for which Mr. Sergeant Bellasis appeared, was taken
first.

Before, however, it was pr.•ceeded with a discussion arose upon
he construction of one of the resolu;ions proposed by Mr. Duncembe
an week. 'l'ee resofution in question was the one which requires
hat a return 611-11 he made by the parties promoting a ra lway Bill
it the past and present provisional committee, and ail it con-
tected with the company. Now the present line sought for was a
wench of an exisliug railway, c,.ttsequent•y there were no prey:-
, °oat threctors, and it was argued ny the promoters that Parliament
ever could require the company to make a return of all their past
iirectors, officers, solicitors, and al. other parties that had been con-
iected with the coomany.

By the op onents it was argued that the directors of the old coin-
my of course were provisional directors for carrying out the new

The point was reserved, with the understanding that it should be
reierred to the Speaker.
The resolutions are evidently most loosely drawn up, and much
inconvenience and delay will be experienced In consequence.

GROUP IX.
This Committee met to-day at one o'clock. Members present--
air. Henley (chairm,,n), the Hon. W. 0. Stanley, Lord Alford, tuld
Viscount Eastnor. Abseil`, Mr Smith O'Brien.
The following Bills have been reiern-d to this group :.-
-damannan (Bathgate and Jawcraig Branches).
wilsontown. M.,:rningside, and Coltness (Bathgate Branch).
Aloriiingsbte, and Coitness (improvement and Kranches).
Wilsontown, Momingside. and Colinas (Caledonian Railway Junc-
tion).
Wilsontown, Morningside, and Coitness (Knowton Branch).
Airdrie and liathgathe Junction.
Edinburgh and Bathgate.
Edinburgh and Hamilton Direct.
Lanarkshire and Lothians.
Scottish Central and Caledonian Junction.

' differenete of 13% chains beta. en the „econ a the levels and could net be indifrercnt parties. Now it should be recollected I will say that, if this had been an express from
the plans.
The Committee decided that the allegation was sus,a'ned; that I that the part lei :o • his ieturn were lilt aetiag in their perso- ar.y other of the newspapera, Ir. Foster would
the surtece of the ground was nut • orreetly shown in the section, it nal or ireevidual, but in their corporate Capacity ; wet. there- not hers been so rowy in comiog ferward as
being marked on the section as a euttit,g of 22 feet, whereas it should fore, altogather, in plain truth, unaffected by this challenge, the advocate of humanity. lie tells us that the
have been an embankment, and, if so, quite coMpetent to try the iaele of this question 41 was exc, edingly eactliplary Li his niaener—that there
feteectione we,e thee mewl to some other portion; of the 1, vels of It it were necessary to adduce fie her reetons, he
the Itue.
It‘lduced the bye-laws to show that the Corporatioe could aet awtl'i.sl tit:e°re7,:rne."-iltaililst e%e,•ficentrthiatittemrterr.eFncoesteorfs
oltbtir€.ettser;so,
Tree remaining allegations having been disposed of. the ,Atintnit'ee i
decided that the standing orders had not been complied with. a no nthbr -- way
than they had done, aid were coeseitt. ntly , effect the master. He keee• that this was IT xpress rider
BartzczNEZAD AND X.X.ANGOLLita. quite unaffected in their corporate cap !city. Now, what ' from The Sun newspaper
,offif ea, and, that It iv., a ega_e_utial
ure half-past ses-en o'clock,
wa. the amount of Inc counter plea? Why, that those in- ihe ,should be at
.po The remain.; formal proof In this line were taken.
Standing orders complied with. dividnala who had made t-e return made it improperly, . and ituli b7.,he
egrsatuintyeitgwsauleparrecilretopdeett6 Telicot;ii;,/i.eari.74.tf the
and thue whether they e ere the persona who shoald make proprietor_
=ENT ATIMOSPECEMIC (ADDITICIZZA -. the return of the panel. Sir Th .mas Wilde then went over 1 papers. It was clearly evi ealt that Mr. Foster hid acted hi
ZiIiZOITZSIO S, iiro. 2BX e 1..) the green,' again of the laws anti bye-laws, and then pro- this
.nvianner,y,nnolthalle,e!ca,u.smegdlrtohdadvaillauimilaintilte,e- aillteilitt-sarit;
Standing triton compiled with. ceeded to argue that the challenge an.l the come er [Aga were b,%iert
yooectinusie his cemnitalications had leen rejected by
The , anarhittef: then rose at a ,inarter-p ist !twee o'cloAr. really in sulistance lhe eeme. •
and that the pleading. - •
A the case. 1 shall show that the florae eel Tie
therefore, was bad. an I consequently inadmissible.
I Sun -office in gi.od c..titifti, n, but by some
Ilieall,i
plea to be atituissiele orient to be apt•
or other he wits injured on the way, and
eistvnt, and partect. and teat was also tpet.einsee:
' theref r.,, Sir, I contend that there i, eti Case pp which
! a tine can t,e Froperly inflicted, The amnia' is now perft c:1
wish reipect to a counter role'. Hot in the present in.,. alititim
nu new matter had been brought in the counter p1t,,t,..
• recovered, ;aid the boy on the pa .1d01..r day 1,, uttestioY
1 ettaiett,,e. , was :lot to know that he had been in any waiser.totislY in'-'
that which Id been alleged in the challenge; ii.l.te..womie=;,,
theretore, fell to the ground, and his Learned.
he conceived, he compelled to recur to his or,ginit
L.. :.. d j ~ .
• bir i.rit.titl. ea tutot.L said I wish to have evideece as to the
The Soucrron•Gesettee enderstood that hey , era.,
. ur 0 .iitiig wily called, and stated that the horse
Friatel alleeed that his otijecti,n fell to_ the grmitd. as
Atii:rtl‘tel s,datelo.f the. animit.l now.
Ner whet %%as the real state of the ca eat the present ten- . . . . , 7
f hr. retail,: orate was 110 W per/L.:tt% teem art( , and that on tee evening in
(the ti ins' ant) it was in a pertec Ile
; „tree, arsi,ted by meant other per- sound eumliti-e. Tie hey told him on returntug,
impiests tii tfe :•••yrta
sneleYtel'ra?l Il
att'cal4ssWt'tlec.dtoaltie'initaTile t rt;-kt.lite".Atli ie 'limn and the cer s` on
sens whom he Mei challenged err the filet imaane, as being i that when Dell' Temple-tea be had felt the horse
par. J,s, ibliu ; g he RIM I,U, however, but feeling tht there
woe, as b i nee ti t e ci,izeits ef this t teas were interest. d stun
p, , i,,,. and. t 1„,,,, net unire'iffereet persoits. Such was teas something wrotig, be was going t, purl up the hni-,e,
thesubstance of the chancre!". But Lie Leareed Freaut had het collie net in so at once. 3, it was hard mouthed alien
entirely misreprermed the sub./elle • of the counter plea. Mr. Fester took hold of the b idle.
for it went on (guile a ditfertnit set of facts, and al- Alter seine further evidence,
leged baymal the matter 1.1 .lie el- al lenge the Sir Geentee Ceretn e -,a.d, that luai-g at all the circum-
even it the parties who made this return were tie staeces ( f the ca,, its could not see that, the tietentlat.t
right parties to tio ir, I, had 7-et bean improperly made. The was in fault. There wes a very Leavy duty
Aldermen aid the inquests of the several wards ought o make ilicumbe .t on him to be at the Post- cave in time, t.e u
the returns. It wes on these returns that the panda were would entail a very heavy grievance op tee country readers
founded, and he contended, in the preterit instance, if their newspapers did not arrive regithrly—lie fait it a
that the regalia were insufficient, and the panel was grievanee in his own case. Tbe boy, knowing that the
consequently imperfect and incompetent to try the case. horse was sound when he kft the office, and seeing when he
They hail n e duly set forth the return of the panel, and he stopped that the animal placed his leg on the ground, could
coetended that if he demurred to tee counter pie,. on that not be supposed to know that he was seriously injured.
ground, he did not make a departure item the point at issue. and, therefore, he did not think that that was a case for
Such a course was regularly taken in the 'roc edings of the punishment. Time was a most valuable co ,sideration to
courts of law. Let his Lordship take the case of a common newspaper proprietors, and they were bound to make the
assault. Tha plaintiff chasg•-it the defendant With having most of it.
assaulted him, and the defeelant admits that he had assaulted Mr. Foster said that too little time was given, fir he
the plaintiff; but he pleaded by way ..f jastification that the believed that only tear minutes were showed between The
plaintiff bad assaulted him in the first instance. to wnieh Sun otliee, in the Strand, and the General Post of ice.
the plaintiff might reply, "I did not first assault you," ane The eeleudatit was then discharged.
thereupon is-ue might be joined, and the point to oe tried was.
not whether the defendant had assaulted the plaintiff, hut
whether the plaintiff had assaulted the der-Haut in the first
instance. end surely it would not be said that in
those proceedings there was any depertute, for le oceedinge of
that sort were &f common occurrence ill the varlet]s courts of
'aw. And what was the difference in the particular case
before his Lordship? Ho apprehended that theist was no
difference whatever.
The Racotentea—Am I to understand you this, that their
counter plea alleges a tact which is the foundation of the law
as necessary to yeur challenge. and that you take issue upon
the truth of the fact so alleged?
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL answered in the affirmative ;
but he must beg his Lord: hip not to suppose that he was
arguing a new ground of challenge. He bad already stated
a good ground of challenge, viz., that the persons who had
made the return were riot unintliffeant. The answer to that
challenge wa..--•• That is very true, they are unindiffetent
persons; but, although that is so, the retu:n has been made
in accordance with a custom that has prevailed from time
immemorial"
Sir T. Metre—We do not admit that they are unindiffer-
eat persons
(The case was panceetling when elm report left.)

LORD MA 4,R'S COURT.
(THIS 1L
(lefot,, the La:comma )
NNE FREEMEN AND NON lI:GUINN OF TAR CITY OV LONDON.
--THE CHAMBERLAIN OF TID, CITY OF LOND.,N . STULT

awn cci netts.
The proceedings in title emper.aei ease, which was b-f re
the Gaut en 3leliday last, e. ere reeutned to-day On, ars
Will recollect that the caee came het ,re the Ceur:
action tin eteht by the Cheintierlaiii of the e'ity ,e; :lee t
defendant, who is a whole-ale warelitateeman, t he
•• business
in Fore-street, to
ebtain vertain penalth es, i. it
e had subiected himself by reesen of his verryi e •;-
business in the City wiilieut tekiete up his freedten. The
"hole of last 51-ncle% was occueted by eljectiorie taken by
the counsel for the tier-:alma to the jell-die:ion of teee judge,
the manner of sunammir.g the jer, &e. Tits morning, it
the Recorder taking his seat,
Sir Tnostas WILDE sri.l, that on consideration the o,in-
tiff had deemed it prudent to rut ie a counter plea,
stating
Under what circumetaimee the jury p inel lied been returned,
and it would be for his Lear: ed. .1: riend, the counsel ter the
defendant, to take issue, if he elme, upon the etatement•
contained in it, and the facts must be triad; or if art ohketl4.)ll
were made as to the legality ..f the preceeding,, that might
be argued as a demurrer unite point ef law. But he did not
anticipate that his Learned Friend would ti upon any ne
of the facts e'tated in the counter plea, heeatiee he believed that
they werwall duly and correette stated. 14 however, his Learned
Friend Chose to eenthr, the pent might be argued, and his
Lordship having 0, en his jut!gment thereupon, they might
Emceed with the trial of the merits ot the qteetion. He (eir
-.Thomas Wilde) wouldtherefore counter pleed to the challenge
of his Learned Friend, and would centend that the panel el
the jary was a true, pal' et, and impartiel one, aid toat the
jurors who had been returned had nut been inserted in the
panel with any reference to the present or any par-
ticular case, but generally to try all cases that might
arise during the period in which they were liable
to sit as jurors in this Court. He would
contend that the list was regularly made tett in pursuance of
bye-law passed by the Court of Common :.A.uocil of London,
the validity of . hi ii bye-law he apprehended would not be
gainsaid If his Learned Friend eljected to the validity et
that bye-law, the point would have to be argued on ch inur-
ter eisewliNt,.. He concluded by handing in his counter plea
^tlDarchment, sad by giving expression to a hope that his
Leaned Friend would state what muse he intended to
pursue.
The Soucrron-Cimene e said, be presumed that the coun-
ter plea contained a correct statement aril, manner in which
the panels were ie u, nett He would of course iMmur to the
counter plea; ii Lordship would hove to say whether that
demurrer was a good one, and if lie decided in the affirmative,
that fact would appear urn the iecore, and they woukl then
Proceed to the merits of the ease.
The Clerk of Arraigns then read the counter plea, which
averred the poiute mentioned Aimee in the nineties of Sir
?hotness Wilde; lifter which
The Sotacrroa-Gmeenat, said there must be an error in
the counter plea with reference to the number of individuals
qualified o serve as jurors in this C art. The counter plea
averred. that the names of all parties in the ward of Cripple-
gate Alm were vilified to nerve had been duly returned, but
the number of those pervliq wasorly twenty-four, which he
apprehended was far free' leing the entire number of gen-
tiemen qualified to serve in the ward iu question. lie had
nn doubt that, as far as the impartiality of the case was con-
certied, the averment was strictly true ; but the qui.,.tion
Wee, whether, in accordance with the supposed custom, dim
Whole of the names qualified to serve had been returned? He
• foiled that f.•r the two branches ofthis ward, viz., Cripplegate
Without and Cripplegate Within, only 44 were returned art being the entire list of individuals qualified to sit in the
ltr'-box it' this Court. He apprehended that the averment
was not in accordance with the feet.
Sir T. IVine:—Thai is our belitf
The Sotecurot-liaelemae—lVill, I should think that that
cannot be,
The RECoRDER was also inclined to doubt the truth of
the avg., 'tent.
The SA. nacrrott-Gexxiist. wished to know what was the
nalithattien necreeary to act in the c pew ty of jure- in t
bi-
Court ; for he assured his Lerdshie that he wae as hoorah!
of
thehe Preceedings of the Ceurt as he W 34 on the day wheo
lust met, Cripplegate Without w titan
as much la-ger an
Cray Pplegate Within, and yet twenty•f; air juries had tier,
returned for each branch. TH. c .unter plea state) t hat i
the patties that le d been qualified in the Ward of C ippl,-
gate had been retie ned to serve in this cr:e. Now lie VI rd
Inuch doubted whether that do‘umeht coal i be true, and hi,
Would, therefore, demur to the counter plea. Perhaps Air.
Alderman Challis ( who thin happeued to be sitting tie the
bench) would itife-rn trim whether there were no more than
twenty-four qualified to serve Cripplegate Ward.
The RECORDIAL—IIIs mouth is Shut at Pa.. moment, be-
cause, although this stated to be the Lord Meyer's
the proceedings are carried on before his deputy, and it
is not customary fir the Lord Mayor or the Aldermen to
take part in the proceedings.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL,—Then say in the counter plea
that they have conformed to custom, and did return the
several persons qualified to serve as jurors in the said ward,"
but we say they did not.
The tincoanxii said, even in the event of all the person:
so qualified to eree as jurors having been returned, it was
possible there might have beets some who would have bee!,
unable to serve from various eau es. T,.e plaintiff, might
have said " the several perscns so returned to serve as jurers,"
and so have got rid of any ambiguity in the wording of the
Plea; or " the several persons returned in obedience to the
Act of Common Council."
The SOLICITOR GENERAL said, if this were done by an Act
of Common Council, as tie maintained it was, then the par-
ties returning the said jury, and the jury iheinselves, were
4' Ullindifferent."
The RECORDER—There was another question which the
Learned Solicitor-General would no doubt text —whether the
Act of Common Council was legal? But then this would giv.
rise to another question—namely, what was the state of the
law when this bye-law was passed by the Common Ceuucii?
It was, however, art set of the Council. and did not come
Under the definition of a " bye-law."

The Sonterrott GENEs..tail—There might have been a bye-
law of the Council, setting forth that the persons to serv(
on juries should only be returned by persons who were not
freemen of the City. However, the oivctions and demurrers,
which he had felt it his duty to make would not have been
made Wit had been clearly sot forth that no portion of the
penalty sought to be recovered from the "defendsAt
in the event of its recovery, go into the pockets t.f the Corp-
oration of the City of London.
The RELVIWER reminded the Solicitor. General that the
City had the government of its local matters in is own hands,
and that the Common Council were empowered to pass laws
for its better government. This Court, however, was not
*lmply one fur the tiial of matters solely relating to the City,
but actually was a court of equity, not unlike the tad Court
of Exchequer, with butthis difference, that it was not corn,
patent for it to grant injunctions.
The Soractroa-Gl,:NEitar. said, no doubt the old Court was
el an origrial anti public character, but he maintained that
the Court woi exclusively a City tribunal, presided over by
a City officer, and a jury composed of freemen of the City.
His Learned Friend had intimated to him that he abided by
the counter vea, and did nut intend to amaulf it in accord.•
ance with the arguments he (the Solicitor-Gam-al) hail ad-
vanced. He should tike issue on that plea, amid hand in J,
replication. During the interval occupied in prepa:ing tin
replication
Mr. RANDALL read the precept issued by the Lord Mayo.
to the Aldermen of the various wards for electing lb,
varieus officers and juries for the year, which set forth thn
they should return all the names —.‘ surnantr, truly writttu
*--ot such persons competent to serve es petty juries. lip
these precepts, it appealed that the Afrerineu were requir.,
to return the names of all persons so qualified to serve.
The I{ k:CORDEIt said the Aldermen did n..t mike the return.
Air. RANDALL—Rut he tutninons the inquest who inat,t
the return.
The SoLICLTOR-GENZRAL then proce etl.t.
ecd
10 Tel ly to t}fit
counter plea, on which he should take . lle then rru~.
the replication, which set forth
hat the names and cur
names of all persons dwelling
1.1
in the said ward of Cripple•
~ ssitl
ward
,
gate, qualified to serve as jurors in 1
have nut been annually returned in proper _ font
and that the names or the jurors in the saidchallenge
nr
not returned fairly and impartially iu the. said
oi ai th,
L "
alq himself
ed, end, therefore, the defendant puts
lutid trial."

Sir Tiromas Wrenr. demurred to the replication, the sub
stance of which ways that the panel hail not been returned
according to the custom set nut in the c.,tinter plea. Atte:
reading the replication, iu order to avoid any ambiguity, he ssiu
that the defendant alleged that the manes of the
*pi rora in toe
said challenge were net ret urned fairly and impartially accord-
ing to the said custom, as in manner and form ett forth in the
counter plea. He demurred to this—he demurred to it be-
cause it was a departure, and an attempt to put in a differee,
issue, from the one cunt ained in the challenge to the arra.
That challenge stated that the panel wai re:urnad by twq
Ward inquests, and at the time the said array was so rette nee
and made the Aldermen and utvcs pers.ins eieetine
the said inquest, and each of them. and tree•
alien and citizens of the City of Leiden were
interested in the subject at issue. The challenge
was made, theref.re, on the ground of want of fie qualification
of those who made the return, but the replication to the
cnter Plea sought to raise a question not stated in the chat-
lanwge, whether the persons who made the return were bs
authorised to make it, but whether they mule it in
rparortpie
arnymanner, and that they made such re:urn unfairly and
The 6LICITOR-GENERAI. joined in the demurrer.
The demurrer was then read.
The liv.conims said, then he understood that the demurrer
W 3-1 on account of the u
erconsequntly theresety• sammenii ig the jury, and being
T. WiNe's replicationes interested in the inquiry. That Sir
according
to the that the jury were summoned
was made, that although _ City. to which au. answer
ug the parties to be fate
invalid.
rested, the returns were improperly made, and so became
Sir T. Wren% then proceeded to sehlre-s the Court, and
said that he conceived that the altegations of his Learned
inasmtwh as there was a
Friend must fa;l to the ground,
difference between the terms oftl
those of the counter plea were differently as there
to each other Now. what was the ease? T
in the first place, was, that the
a return were objectionable. It was whost made
Parties he allegation,
there was an objection to the return being madeatbe‘dth that
quest ; ant when it is replied that the return caewhe mesidii;
only in this way, and in no other, according to the
customs and bve•laws in the City, it
answered that the duty is now doee by parties who could
it
Partial in its fulfilment, inasmuch as the parties who matte
dreturn were incapable of making such a return so
as to satisfy the equity of the ease. 13; tween this chal-
lenge and this cowl' er plea, then, Iliere was in
reality no &lien:nee whatever. It was never de.
Hied that the parties win, %vele to ;slake the
return, Were the ward inquests, and it wt.s impossible, there-
r°rei that any objection could be made to the parties who
were called upon to make this return, and who, in fact, did
make the return ; and the objection now made, therefore,
htotally unfounded. It was allowed on all hands
V the several ward inquests, under the direction
a
, the sheriff, and by the authority of the
coisiusbrzlneil of the several wards, were the only persons who
bud beet.urn jurors, and thus it was shown that the IN torn
of the dituadP according ;;; the laws td the City. The law
was a part of the law of that Court, and conse-
Itleoz . strictly, the rule by which this cause mils! be tried.
46ain, iL was objected that the patties inti;.ing.this
IrStam wen .
ucV ettilAVIA stud it was caraplaiinal that they

GUILDHALL.-(THIS DAY.)

(Before Alderman Sir G. Cumin L.)
Witiain Merritt was charged, upon a summons obtained
by Mr. Foster, a reporter occasionally connected with the
.Uorning Post newspaper, and with otherj,urnals, for criwlty
to a horse, the property of Mr. Young, the proprietor of
Tic Sun newspiper.
Mr. Childs, solicitor, of the firm of Wire and Childs,
tended fir tile deientlant. Mr. Foster was present to con-

to his own c.lse.
Mr. Childs said—l appearfor the defendant—it is a perfect

MA RLBRo'-STREET—(THIS DA )
Inliant Aiding, a young man of fashionable appearance'
was charged with being drunk and causing a disturbance in
the pit of the Haymarket lheatre.
Police-constable No. 77, of the A division, said he was on
Limy at the theatre on baturnay ht, aid about half-past
:iine o'clock, a disturbance having occurred in the pit, la, went
tn.-re and found the defendant behav:ng, in a riotous dis-
orderly mauler, and offering to fight any one. Witnesq rc-
riueoti:d hitu to behave himself properly, but as he toott-
catd to zu,.oy and interrupt the audience he took him into
cuntt-dy.
Mr. SIALTBY a-lzei if the defendant was drunk? The con-
stable said ite ►as so, most decidedly.
Mr. 31ALTIlY (to the defendant)—What answer have you
to make to ibis chargc? Dcfendant—l am extremely sorry
for having so miseonducted mysett, ant I am assured I
should n,-.t have dt.,ne so if I had not had t, o much wine. I
am ge- e- ally very oitkrly, and never before got into a row.
2,1 r. MAcrnv (.:tier consulting with Mr. Bishop, the clerk)
;;Aid that. under the circumst4nces, he could only deal with
the case as regarded the defendant's dtunkennese, for which
he should tine him ss.

The defendant, evidently expected a scverer punish-
amt., paid the tine with alacrily, and lef. the Court.

NE W MARKET RACES.
(THIS DAY-111' EXPRESS.)

BY THE E %STERN COUNTIES
ELECTRIC TE;.EGRAPH.

Platt. of 501.

brayngloth
cSliss Elio ..
Five ran.
llantlicup of 20 sues. ea,h. T.Y.C
colt
Coco, Nut
Doe nu Durras
• Sw epst.keb of 50 ach.
Colonel Anson'tk lago
Duke (011 aptfort's Taurion,
Mr. I'hi+lim re'a Sir!e.,eiddh•
Sw,rpstakf-s of 50 snvs. each. AS.
DA-0i lied:urd'u ruraguoe
Lord Exeter's Lebanon
Swet.p,-,lak,-3 r►l 50 T.Y.C.
r. Young L• ch:noar, 6 rs, ht, 5 b
liawlefs ltilshopor It autota'aC,..6,6 yrs,Bst 70) 2
+,:ukuel Pee.'s Garry OA en, aged Bs‘ 71h 3
Alatch—Woodp'geon beat ()atilt j.

dutitary appearance. The fact is that the horse ridden by
tefentlsta is the property ef 31,-. Young, the proprietor of
The Sun newspaper; altlioush the summons is directed to
"the rider of the horse,'' and therefote, informal, we have
ch,ssn to appear. Still it was t•te duty of the persons
*.aking out the summons to have obtained the rider's name in
tie best way that lie migle .
Henry I:ionser Foster then came forward. He saii, on
the eve nine; of Friday-, the 17th, alaear twenty robotics titter
seven o'clock, I was pas-ing tip Fieet-st reed, an?. when nearly
ppesite the end of Chaucer)-:inc—.l ea,. passing- up 00 the
lett hand side of Fleet.street—rny attention was drawn to
toe d ,fenciant, who was riche,: a horee on the off side at a
eery rapid pace, and the animal was Janet-eon% upon three
legs, one of his legs being drawn up under his belly.
Mr. Teague, the Chief Clerk—How could he proceed on
three legs? •
Mr. Feaster—l could not believe that the animal could s .
pro, tied unless I had seen it. myself. The d. tsetlant was the horse, and occasionally it-y.lth%. back as if tt,
see now the 1.. g. lo ,keel. I saw that the animal's leg wao
doubled up, and that the animal was going upon three
legs, and I ran after him into the road, 1 think absent 20n
yards after passing Chancery-lane. I ran down the middle of
he road and caught hold of the bridle, and said that he
should not proceed an inch further. Several persons came
'op, and said that I had acted quite right. The boy came
oil; and the horse, when he was stopped, put his leg on the
ground. While I turned round to ask the parsons about me
if they would come forward as witnesses, as I in-
'ended to proceed in the case, the lad got upon
the horse, and went on again. I ran after hon.
end again stopped him opposite Bouverie-st eel. Two
policemen came up at toe time. I have nothing
f complaint to urge agaiin.t the pera..n riding the
horse, who said he must reach the Post-,,dice, and I told him
0 take his bag on, but I would held the horse till he came j
back. In, I think, two or titre.. minutes, not more, another
!toy came up, and he stopped. probably seeing the other ho 3, ,air E. B. Lytton has joined the number of dis-
tnd the newspapers he had in charge were sent on to post, tinguished Englishmen at present sojourning in Paris.
mei this lad led back the horse to the offi,,e. In about halt An American timelier intOrifis us that a daily pap( r
an hour I went to the office, and saw the lad there. I asked tyke a week, has bees commenced at Niagara Falls.
:lis name. He appeared very sorry then, and be said nothing H ;VAL ASIATIC SOCIETY.—THE SEIKII COUNTRY.—
xcepring refusing to give his name, because he did On Saturday, at a very full meeting of the members, the Right non.
.lot knew my reason in asking it. I said that I felt
.reitarimofti.ieluechklaria.l., laateerG,ovvasenrieoardobf InidiloaleBans,drPNivrdirtoonf
tte
it my duty to complain, but I did not thick that originYa'rel hitory of thepSeplkhs, the intereyst of which was bucen'siderably
tie was in fault. I aired the publisher of The Sun (Mr. increased by lie relation of the experience of the Noble President,
Finch) the boy's name, but his reply w.ns, "Mr. Foster, you when, as Viceroy of India, he visited the Court of Lahore. The
seem to be making yourself very officious in this matter." Siekla nation tok its rise from one of the earlier Hindoo refonnere,
I said, "That is your etateritent only? " The defendlott main- or whom were men of great acquirements, and tor a long tine•
it.,,ittethrga:jetthedot
principally fur
febrartbhaerirla
went into the Lack shop, end I saw no more cf him. The ho'stilitys•cboatitheretod
illYdsv't.e,rintuatclintt°l7 publisher then raid, "You, as a reporter, Ido riot think Hindoes and S oliainnuelans. One of their laws in their sacred
;t become you to appear against Mr.' Murdo Young." works was to " slay a Mclaumnedan wherever they meet him; and
I could not get the name, anti I stated the circumstances to if a ilfiblio, hint and plunder him." They were governed by 'navy
Mr. Alderman Gibbs in the inert-I,ldg, who directed the sum- chiefs, who earls united in a confederacy forming a general diet, ,to
which every oue abu commanded an armed band behreged. It was
mons to be issued in the particular war you find it.
n,-,tulutil the present century that they were transformed from
,iII-dle-
Mr. Foster—l am. died Mr. Childs—You are connected with-the press, I think 2
military bands into a cempact body by the late Reinject teas, r.
which had lir vex, how ever, the elemenos of golirlit., as was show!,
Mr. Childs—Yea have sent communications to The Sun by recent events. Ihe engine' t,eihlie, histead of being the hardy
on previous occasions? Have you no. ? Mr. Foster—Soule race which was suppea d, had greatly dee/cher-4erl from physical ex-
sees- s, and the prowess display rd in the I et great events was motyears ago; certainly not within three last three years.
Mr. Childs—DO you mean to say that you have that of the libelous and ether melte who were in their armies .han
addressed no such communication within the last three or ice
ail In he converesition that ensued, the President de-
scribed his reception by the members of the Court of Lahore, wise
years? Mr. Foster—No, eel tainly not. Were a ma: manly race, of a very hospitable character, and stated
Mr. Childs—Whut name did you make use of in for- that so terrrelou, were they of their religlo.is rites, that al:lmon he
warding these communications? Mr Fester—l have no was admitted into the chief ohnple of their sacred warship, he was
wish to deny an answer to your inquiry, but I do not see excluded the sl,dit of the sacred tank, in which is contained the first
by their founder. The report was
it, I will i
preeepts of tiler . rligion, as given
what that has to do with the ease. However, it you wish
ordered to he pruned.
answer t.
VIsCoUNT lIARDINOE AND HIS LATE CONSTITUENTS.
Sir G. Cannont—l cannot see what the question has to
—LA,— A highlv me eetable meeting convened by J. K
lei with the case, unless it to be to show an ill-feeling on the Frost, p.m , the mayot ot"the tPeiretieh, took plac'eatLaunec's on Cl;
,iart of complainant.
Friday last, for the purpoeu of presentihg an address of congratula-
Mr. Childs—Precisey. That is exactly what I mean to Lion to Lerd Herdiege on the occasion of the great victories recent iy,
Won On the banks of the timid. The address 1.,e4 unanimously agreed
how. _
Mr. Foster--- Proceed to show the ill feeling. to after several highly compthnentary speeches by the Mayor, by
I;heoirsaliaasi Pearce, I' Dr.o rdllosivie.,rdiV. A. H. Auudell, Esq., and otlerin-
Mr. Childs— I shall proceed regularly, Mr. Foster. What
aott. ilLuatultieieHesotouile
,owf
dCot Liteniolll6.-
waR the !tame 4.0 u used in your communications to The Sun? lOuir thirteenars as. the represeritZevts-
Mr. Foster—W. lien I fire... teok it on me to follow the profes nexion had ex Ft, d between his Lo.r.slitp awl the bee ',ugh,
stout of a reporter, I adoptcal the amen de guerre—l suppose with equal honour to iiiture If and satishsetion to the electors, was
to nay term i'. so—l wrote under the name of Thorne, but terminated by his recent acceptarb eor the high cißce he irow holds
when I got connected with the Nor 'day Post I dropped it. as Governor-Geie r 1 of India.
it was, well krinwr to all connected with the newspapers that EU YAL ARTILLERY —C., plain Tim. mao's Company,
4th battalion, ei.,barked at four o'clock P.M., lOr conveyance, to Black-
:- oster was my name.
wall. to proceed en board a steamer for Leith, to rerieve Ceptati
ii,,,.(ii.
1.1,:o
r:r;;Leeot2u;?usi I di‘3B—:
r: s111:11 t
eyr_o
yet:, En. iinuni c a t e d under the name of tenetiana's company, Bth battalion, at Leith Fort, the latter being
Mr. childs—Soute of those contributions were rejected, under orders to return to bead quarters at Woolwich.
,•
~, _ . .. oste r (with considerable heat I A CHILI) I ittowNED IN A BUTTER- FIRKIN.—fin
) What a :.aturday, Mr. Mills, Deputy Coroner for Middlesex, held an halms.
Mr. Cli
utter—ir G.
OCfA
ca :tout ie a
cliduLwlli•ll. What hits that to do with this ? 1 --a at the coach :Aid Horses priblie-hou-e, at eating, on the body of
did
Anal ask you. for a epeecit, Mr. Foster.
IniWer the question ; yes, or NO? MP. sornie.:?ntahmeme 4 were etrheer \Villain malt, a child sixteen months old, who met Ide death under
the iollowni.: circumstances :—The ceeeined ws the con of a labour-
tejteevevlsepda.per' yen now man employed in the gravel-pits, and living in the Uxbridge.
Mr. Childs—What is i
s
I inn) rwitlt y o u r sup; ,o. t Mr. Foster— erl I e .I.tot niag Post. rdirico‘eigacmed". endO,ani re fli'
allFl ulitmi3; oal:;l7leilmi:tip'F't(Y-aybbr(u'entttse-ctre.::irro.k:wcaliloilceik'f:,outuh'ieitehigie)Qtfiti:°.:(.;Tre,oeti. Hut
M r. Childs— Are von kr:own
he Post ?—t Laui4tliel). Mr sip
st he celebrated "Jeekiee" of When She reninieq she d!seovered that the child had, in the iiiterim,
, ter--Unless tie Msgietrate
meroaswtliV.i.ottelitub, raisin Pun IT it, and then tumbled head fore-
(-To: tit-trends me 10 onso er „ie..,
Fr.
ester
-zlohu:lidieenr; I'll
ri,t,teipuree.lf: iii
ti is I ~. hall not do so. It
way
iii,ute
erti.itrei,rageielt iouzii.eii-daraits.,,,ii,n::-aiii",oot:taf,-;:urr 1,1,1.!.h.e.;:
n rronfiu'usi iteeerii I ood, before I came here, that this aticil m cold be pr,-cee,iett with ; but I life to be quire extinct. Verthet —..dlceithettal death."
sie's3ttelerstiontertoni o,Y It is <aid that the erranteemeros e,.,... quout ors Vll-
duty as a member of s elite---'Oll are,am death of Sir IS i11..,m Bnothby, lieee:rer.,:etternl of Ctpouins, Wore
nut yl-;stotoTeati3,eoarnrriletod. The i:tlary of the late Iteeelvor-Clenerel
of ceurse. You knew, *1
suppose, a
that the defendant had come from The Sun otliee ? Mr. s,ir Jan., Graharn'o eltle,t son, Mr. Frederick Ulric
Mr. Cliil.ls
Foster—l did not know so to swear to it. I might have pre- Graham, has joined the Ist Life Humes as Cornet.
sinned it. I may meetion that this defendaet is the saute Out Y I',rig Hirt. I I cello: lt Po nova lomat tin tattwa amta.g
individual who was held to bail in another Court. the Katie;, among whom a party has arisen called " Young Kafir-
Mr. Childs—This is most irregular and uncalled for. But land," who are eager for a contest with our colonists.
I (addressing the Magistrate) am prepared tea , rove that Ecetose ue THE SI:N.—On Stour, ay evening there
this is not the same lad who is charged in another ease. I seam an e iipBe of tie sun, but on account el the heavy sue or the
cannot understand by what right Mr Foster makes this "'cattier, it was silly vis.ble for a few moments. It comme,-ced at
statement.
thirty-one minutes past eve, and terminated at flay-four minutes
t riglit. Yost called nre " Jen- past six o'clock. It was a
partial eclipse, only one fourth of the sun's
Mr. Fo-ter—l have a perfecdiameter being covered, the greatest obscuration takin place at
e
about six o'clock kir.s."—(Latighter.)
Mr. Chtld you so. s—l did not call I only asked if you ACCIDENT AT WO MILLBANK.-- T LIVES
LOST.—.fir.
accideia of a frightful character, by which two • • •
were Jenkins —(Continued sang ter.)
and several other parties seriou-I •' •f • pereons were killed,
The comply sat down. FridA •afternoon, .3 upon the
e Y 1 not fatally injured, occurreel oo
'observed complainant
Charles Gatron, 317 City Policeman, Surds, stone-merchant -• extensive premises belonging to Dir.
, carrying on business at Millbank, opposite
It. went on threelegs. the General Penitentiary. It appear
seize the horse. It was lame. I .
ossili y three and four, a number of Sortie's s that between
men a the hours of
were engaged in unionding
Mr. Teague could not conceive how a burst could p
gallop on three legs. a barge ot marble blocks. The vessel was draughted to the edge of
saw a horse the elite, and the blocks of marble
,were being lifted by moons oh
Mr. Foster—l assure you that I never .
what is termed a shitting crane. NI hilst the men were thus en-
-1 dld see it here.
gated a heavy block of stone, weighing
gallop on three legs before— (Lughter)—but,.. . ,
several hundred wright,
cruelty, although I att 1 .. drawn to the top of
which was being the crane, caused the cro-s-
-
I think it was a decided case of
snap asunder, and the massive block of marble was sent
a sort of i liar, to
bute no blame to the lad, Lecause he was under
barge lying at the edge of the water. As soon as it
I flying into the
obligation to get to the port in time.
iv_ that the crane
tha(,)lutgiovr
thievery.,
cthheorintehne astalwv oer.k
but
h—Sir, the fact is this. was Pint od
Mr. Childs, addressing the Benc
neatt, made an
.4""rtatcougene accomplish their object, not only the 'port-
`i n ' office in a per-
[he horse in question 1. ft The t. u
before they
• j‘nd
cute to
but the Machinery also, fell forward with a
but when running,
reedy sound state on the same evening; derous 11121,0, :'the
wen
who were immediately underneath were I
met with some
I presume, and the rider also presumes, he
b ' the great weight that fell upon them, ,
• and although the almost ecubled up )
accident; touched his footlotk, it might be ,
- ' were thrown in sallow directions 1
that accident, and those ivies were close at lieot.
rider did net know the eateat
°t
by t 1 11E stones dying around them. A young man valued William ,
lie was aware that the horse had stumbled, and it is even ini,;_,lii_
J I on, a native of Oxford, who lurid
.b.een emplmed on the works
ituuttle - in niseirsible state; he was re-
the testimony of Mr. Foster that it Was within ten ni
_11,) a
1 few days, was picked tra an
where he died in less than ten
time of the closing of pcot, so that there was ro time "
n teed to the Westminster Hospital,
1 e lamed George
to stop to inquire what the injury (suppot-ieg it minutes after Ms ado fission. Another 01 the Ivor'
lul vr"a.ii tound in a
not a serious one, and could he suppose it so?) could ltlehars, ot Dorset-street,.Vatiyerawlhat; iertigmel,rvo,ade ,
to
the
same
nos-
we
He was aware that the horse was gi,in..^ on ; similar StaTe to his cal
.11.iiiiaraon
every i;ittiention that humanity and ,urgical
we must give him credit, in the abseuce of any pion, eV:atm retcemi,ea
pite of which the putt- fellow expired iii the
proof to the contrary, that he did not yet know sell
"'of tle•gegse-Ling from tine effects of Luc dreadful hinnies he had
that the horse was /seriously hurt, mid he knew that received.ur This party, we ret'ret to say, h. a left eleven chi:dial'
he must be ill time for post, but immediately that he was totally unprovided for. Tao workmen. named George Holloway and
stopped we are told that he dismounted, and that the animal
Benue' Burke, had their thigh- broken, and were taken to the Weal-
named Wil lam Murphy.
placed its toot upon the ground. muster Hospital, as wes another man,
Holloway and
Mr. Foster—l leg— The latter is in a fair slate or recovery, but the invn
Mr. Childs— I will not be interrripteprecarious condition. The cause of the, Mr. Foster. We Burke still remain iii a very
rottenness of the crane,
had the statement that when the buy di ,mounted, the horse aeciaent apr.cars to have been from the
to
the
weatur.
Au
;which doubtless aim from
the
bug exposure
put his leg thieve, and the natural itOerence which the but inquest will he held upon ti,, 11l p elm l. us
would dra ~ looking at the animal, and seeing his le 9: arrived iu Paris.
IBRAHIM PACHA.—Iu
this position, that the injury could not be very erat. Ile gee% n Inu
a h . station of the Orleans
flue royal carriages were in wattiug tv
it a
that the horse could go on. His suspicitai w that 'the El 6
55 railroad to Cony y his Highness and su.te to ys eßourbon,
he had only hurt his foot in a trivial manner, 'anthem Pacha occupies the apartment on the first floor which the
and this suspicion was fully confirmed by his Emperor Napoleon itiltabited during the hundred days. The distri-
going on. What yun, Sir, want to know, is whether he WAS placed of prizes in the Egyptian school, will, h was to have taken
acting in a cruel manner, and of this I think there 1 place a tew days aeo, was postponed till the arrival In Parts of 'bra-
id all absence of proof. I can prove that time horse 1 I,lAnkilleria, who lout signified his wish to be present. le'htillsicli,oo.
agi,
left 7'lte Sun office perfectly a-und, and it is fir the ' founded rather lucre slign,itleuPtiltisart:ramn yearEg3 a'g-fti', teat'lefi•erntlbley 'p7throcninage of 31ar-
comp initialit to disprove it. Now, wi.h reference to Iv —r. 1 sisal S., ult. It:, support, d entirely by the Viceroy Anionget the
Foster's evidence, the object which I had in view in putting pupils arc two sons on Mehemet Ali and two scars ot ILrahim.
the questione which laid was to show that there • was '
I he Journal des ,' la- mini de For announces that the
some little matter ati.:iug out of previous circum. ' d!fferenerB which hithertc divided the two Versailles companies had
gam rilicls gars 0, bias Vis his opilitmay, I b4.111:::,144;Juti:112,d. uud tr at nu sort ed te why Waled la the waY
, of too Weetenotiedrcted. - -

I A .iILN TA It t B U SIN ESS.
( From the (;n:cs ona Proceedings of the house of Commons.)
REPORT FROM TIIE SELECT cOIIMI i TEE ON GROUP (No.
29) OF RAILWAY BILLS.
RUGBY AND lIUNTI:sGDON RAIL WAY BILL.
Mr. Labouchere reported from the Select ommittee en Group(No.
29) of Railway Bills, to whom several petitions against the Bills
comprh.ed hi the said group were referred, That in the case of the
Rugby and .luntingdon Railway Bill they had heard counsel in
support of several of the said petitions, nnd had also beard counsel iti
,avour of the Bill, and that they had examined the allearetion. eon-
tallied in the ,preamble Of the Bm, but that the same had not [kill
proved to their satistaction,

TWIE SUN, LONDON, MON DA ,
-„y EVEN 'N G, Itt-P!t I 1 27, 1640.

penses. Gold and silver only to he received in payment of
duties, taxes, public lands,' debts, and sums of money ac-
crui. gor becoming due for postages, or otherwise. After
dOicsbt(u)hresreml,eiliBis46(,ft etnaTer.)o-uonffit cer (i
of
. General Post-office, shall do so in gold and silver coin only.
The Bill to go into et July 1, 1846.
The House then adjourned.
ther a
Unitedgen t
engaged
States, in
o r moafknhge
A meeting was held at Philadelphia, on the 2d of April, on
the subject of the Oregon territory, but very few attended
It would appear that the good people of that city are not in
favour of war, and ready to compromise the dispute in ques-
tion. It is important that a city of so much consequence as
PlailadJphia should thus act, and throw cold water upon
the exertions of such firebrands as Cass and Ilannegan.
THE AluttnEtt Taut. AT RICITAID.—The panel of
jurors for the trial of %lr. Ritchie was completed on Tues-
day. The Court requested that the testimony should not be
published until the close of the trial. The jury were sworn
and the trial commenced oa Tuesday an ernoon. Mr. P. J.
Arch,,, one of the seconds. surrendered himself for trial, and
was odiniited to bail in the sum of 12,000 dollars.
Dusa 14.TIVELN WOAlEN.—Recently at New Orleans a
dish. nge to fight a duel passed hetet( en .airs Mary Adkins
and ,Alis• Turner, the latter accepting and choosing pistols.
Recorder Genois, hearing of it, and n.st Bpp:eel:ding the
transports of virtuous and honourable souls, locked up both
['art les.
The above journals come to us freighted with the intelli-
gence of disasters by freshets. Bridges without number
have been swept away—houses carried off—railr..ada sub-
merged—embankments overthrown—thousands of acres of
land deluged, and property of all kinds destroyed to an im-
mense amount. In fact, such injury by floods has not oc-
curred in that country for the last fifty years.
The commercial news by this arrival is not important.
The Stock Market is rather dull, political ati:firs keeping the
market more from rising than depressing it. It was rumou ed
that the steam-ship Unicorn was arrived, but nothing certain
;es frnm
to 110 c. ; Paris, sf. 2eic. to sf. 23ic.
c.
dwearsa kr
tnucrnev n
of.
the N ot
Hiberniaing h a.d eueont
adtoi
onne
si
eerxe c.la
Loa n

In Cotton a moderate business was done at steady prices.
Flour was steady at sf. 43ic. to sf. 50t. Provisions, and
other articles usually imported, were much tho same ai last
reported,

LATE AN!) IMPORTANT FROM' MEXICO.
(From the Null York Erening of April 2.)
We are indebted to a gentleman who arrived here to-day
from llnvannah, via Charleston, in the short passage of eight
days, the following important intelligence:—
The Juniata arrivel at ltivannah on th? evening of the
224 ult. from Vcra Cruz, which place she sailed from the
16th u:t., bringing advice, up to that day, and by the captain
we learn that a great change had taken place in the state of
our relations 1, itti Mexico.

It appears that Paredes had been induced to alter hi 4
tone, owing to strong manifestations exhibited again,t a
war with the United States, and that Mr. Sala, cur Mi-
nister, Lad been du'y n-titied that the Government were ready
to consider prepositions he had to make on behal• of our
Government, and that there existed no df,ubt but that the
matter would be speedily adjusted. Arista and the tr.ops
under Lis command Lad pronounced against Paredes and the
war party.

SPQR' 'ltm IN I'ELLIGENCE.
NEWMARKE I, IR sT SPRING MEETING.

SUNDAY AFTER:coolt.—The following horses Inil•earrired
lice the engagements was published :—Green Pea,
'Miss Elie, Switeher, Secuntlus King Charles, Titohorpe,
Physalis, Lycurgus, and Draco. Chamois and one or two
ethers are expected to-morrow.

The weather continues unfavourable, and as yet very I'm
indications of a full meeting are discernable; from the num-
ber of orders, however, that have been received for pco-
horses to meet the special train at Chesterfurd to mor:ow,
we have no doubt that by Tue,,day, the grand day, the town
vt ill be full. The present arrivals are the Duke of Rutland,
Earl and Countess of Sefton, Lord Charles Manners, Lord
Maidstone. Lord and Lady Newport, Hon. Captain Rous,
lion. F. Villiers' Col. Peel, and Mr. Greville
DURHAM RACES.—FRIDAT.
The two-yrs-old Stakes of 10.goineas each, with 20 sous
atid,d, for colts 8,4 31b, and fillies Bst. Three quarters of
a mile. 4 Subs.
3lr. E. R. Cla; k's Bendigo (J. Bumby) 1
Mr. Meiklau'a Duncan 2
Mr. J. Cookson's Miss Birch

Won by a neck.
The Cup Stakes of 10 guineas each, 6ir 3-vrs-old, Cat 10lb;
4 yrs, Bst 3,6: 5 yr,,, 8 10;b; 6 yrs and.aged, 9.t; mares,
&c. allowed 31h. Two mi!es. 8 z:111.,5.
Mr. G. Salvin's Fiddlestring, 3yrs (R. Longstaff) 1
Mr. R. W, ltinisav's Inglewooc, 3 yrs ............ ........ 2
C.mtain Allan's Thernis, 3 yrs 3
The following aho started, but were re.t placed :—Mr.
SurteeN's Lao' Flora, aged ; Mr. Spearman's Duke of Kent,
4 yls; Mr. .1. Ftiweei I's Canical Boy, 4 yrs; and Mr. W.
Rus•eli's Tri.ctaiian, 3 yis. TrActariau won at his eaze, but
having taken the wroi-g side ..t the l ost. IVAA distanced.
The Hunter,: Stakes of ñ gov,,. each. fe,rors-oles, lOst
1:21b ; 5 yrs, IIA 81h; 6 yr., and haT-bred
allowed 711•. Two miles. 7 Subs.
Mr. G. Salvin's Maid cfAuckland, aged (Mr. R. Johnson) 1
14tr. Whiielock's Swodale Jack, 6 yrs
Mr. Russell's fleat-or 6 yrs ...
Mr. Giegson's Toch-rle,s Lass, 5 yrs 4
SIIIFFNAL RACES.
We are requested to state that if the highest weight ac-
cepting for the Shiffnall Handicap should be under Bst 71b,
it will be raised to that weight, and the others in proportion.
HUNTING APPOINTMENTS. •
Durham County Hds--Wed. at Flass ; Fri. at Thornky-101
(RECEIVED THIS DAY.)
NEWMARKET, SUNDAY YIGHT.

ENTRIES FOR MONDAY.
PlATE.—Switcher, Miss Ells, Lyeurgue, Keppel, Maynooth,
and Plantagenet.
HANDICAP, T.Y.C.—Paultons, Bst 121 b ; Cocoa Nut, Bst 41b ;
Due an Durras, Bst 21b; Fidelity colt, 6st 21b. 'rwo paid
forfeit.

The 14110vrias -are Eteratched filr engagenients tn-morrow:
—Luce' ta colt, Macretutua colt, Oxberry, and Toga colt.
2,000 GUINEAS STAKES..—Smuggler Bill. Martext, Pite,
Whitefout,Ginger, Birkenhead, and Titchfield are struck out.

STEEPLE CHASE.
A sporting event came off on Saturday for a very hand-
some Silver Cup (by subscription, free for all horses, 12st
e.tch). at Uxention Pam, under the patronage and stiperito-
tendence of the liberal proprietor; Mr. Elmore, who not only
most willingly permits his laud to be ridden over for the en-
couragement of steeple chasing, but who, upon all occasions
exhibits the right resat true English hospitality by entertain-
ing his friends with a spread of every good thing the appetite
can desire, and such a 1,,,tt1e of old port as " maketh the
heart of wan glad."
The ground was heavy, the morning very unfavourable,
and consequently the race did nut come (,6 until a quarter
before four, when the following horses appeared at the post:—
Mr Elmore's Will-o'-the-Wisp, aged, 12st(Mr. Philpot) 1
Mr. Fitz's The Essex Cob, aged, 12st (Owner) 2
31r. Poole's The Pony, aged, 19,4
The Hon. R. (irimston declared to ride 41b over weight.
At starting they all got well together. Will-o'-the- Wisp
soon began to show m front, and came to the first fence
(a rasper) full a length in advance, which let cleared in
gallant style, quietly followed by the Essex Cob, and The
Pony; the latter, although he cleared the fence, evideffilv
bungled, and his rider, iu consequence, lost both his sti:-
rups, and nearly had a purl. The brook next appeared, and
before the Honourable Gentleman could regain either stir-
rup, he was obliged to charge it, which he did, and most sue-
ces,fully, too, a circumstance that appeared to give all the
lookers-en great satisfaction. Will-o'-the-Wisp still con-
tinued the lead, The Cub second, and The Pony last. This
order of things was kept up dut big the first round, having to
traverse the course twice, in order to make good the dis-
tance (flair miles). When they reached the brook the second
time, Will-o' -the Wisp, stilt leading, got first over, The Cob
in close attendance, Tue Pony still last; and here, although
they all got well landed, it became visible The Pony's
chance wai out. At this p int The Cob appeared to be goilig
well, but on nearing I'hilpot'a-common he became dis-
tressed; his rider, at this critical period, proved his coolness
and good judgment by taking "a pull," and the animal
seemed for a lime to rally, and in a great measure to recover
his lost ground; but, alas! it was no go; he was clearly out-
paced ty the superior strength and condition of Will-o'-the-
Wisp, vt ho, it may be fairly said, was never headed from
first to last, and won in a canter by at least ten lengths; The
Cob second. .

Th. ground s, leete:l was much the same as the last,
s ith the addition of a stiff post and rail b ,th into and
out of Pid!put's Con,mon. The race (a hich is an
st four nc-up'ed only twi lye n mutes and a
(porter, and, Lknig into consideration the he.. vy state
of the country, the umber and form:dable nature (.f
,he fences (and be it rLmemberid with I2st. up), speaks
ell, not only for the game and stoutness of the, animul-,
cut also fur the pluck iaid judgment of the gentlemen
w hr. rode.

All pri.4sed off we;l, and uithuut an accident. The
arrangpment4 gsve grout s‘stisfuetion, and vverybody
4pi.earrd delighted w.th the day's amusement.

=lt is now, wo understand, decided on that the ap-
proaching— accouchement of the Queen, an event
to which
her subjects look forward with so much affectionate interest,
is to take place at Buckingham Palace.— Obeemy.
Her Majesty and his Royal Highness Prince Albert
honoured the Italian Opera with their presence on Saturday evening.
The royal suite consisted of Lady Portman, the lion. Miss Napier,
Lord Byron, the Hon. Colonel Grey, and Lieutenant-C.lonel sey-
moor. There were also present her Royal Highness the Duchess of
Kent, attended by Lady Augusta Bruce; her Royal Highness the
Duchess of Cambridge, attended by the Baroness .111letelitt, the
Peron Knesebeck, and Mr. Edmund Mildmay. In the Queen Dew-
terries box was his Serene Highness Prince George of Mciningen,
attended by Captain Taylor and Mr. Bedford ; his Royal Ilighoesa
Prince Gi.erge et' Cambridge. Amongst the company also present
were the Ivi**.e of Welliegton, t..e Marchioness of Douro, and Lord
Charles Wellesh y ; the Duke and I MclieSs of Beaufort anti the Ladies) R. and B. So rerset ; Count Esierhazy ; his Excell.ney the Russian
Ambassador ani the. Baroness Brunnow ; Ills Excellency the Hano-
verian 31in st, r, the Baron and Baroness Itntliacttild, the Dowager
Baroness de Rehha:.hild, the Marchioness of Worcester, the Marquis
of Mg., the Marquis ot Clanricarde, the Marquis of An-
elesca, the Marquis ot Westmeath, the Earl of Liverpool, the Hail
sod Countess or Kinnoul, the Earl and Counte:s of Wilton, the
Countes ofJersey, the Earl of Lonsdale, the Earl of Shelbune, th
('duet de Noailles, the Count and Countess de Jaen. c, the Yiliffriltilessu Dungannon, the Marquis of Huntley, the Viscount Beresford, the
Viscount Duncannon, the Baron Koller, the Viacom)* Doppia), Lord
Broneham, Lord and Lady Trerniestoan, Lady Joeldre:l, Lady Gar-
diner, Lord 11. Lennox, Lord W. Paget, Lady Villiers, Lady Orford,
Lady Poilington, Lord and Lady Macdonald, Lord Ernest Bruce,
Lord Suffield, Lady 31uria3, Lord IV. Beresibrd, Lord W. Graham,
Sir H. Trench, Sir P. Shelley, Sir R. Vyvyan, Sir W. and Lady
Molesworth, Sir John Guest, Sir Charles Kent, Sir Ita.pla and Lady
Howard, Sir Henry and Lady Meux, Sir Juhn and Lady Curry, Sir
A. Barnard, Sir H. Webb, Sir Thomas Hare, the Hon. It. Curzon,
the lion. Mrs. Fitzgibbon and the Misses Fitzgibbon, the lion. Miss
Fo'ey, the Hon. Mr. arbuthnot, Mr. St. Jelin Miblinay, Mr. Lirere-
ton Trelawny, sirs. Crawshay, Nlrs. Stodilart Douglas, Mrs. Dennis-
toun, Mts. S. Smith, Captain Bathurst, kn. &c.
ROYAL BOTANIC SeCIETY, REGENT'S-PARK. At R
meeting of Fellows of this Society, held at the gardens, on Saturday
(the Duke of Norfolk, E. M., President, in the chair), the following
ladies and gentlemen were added to the society :—Lady Caroline
Townley, Lady 31aria Molyneux, the Duke of Marlborough, Colonel
George Smith, Sir Samuel Spry, M.P., Sir Henry Willoughby, Bart.,
Captain Sir J. R. Rowley, Bart., Dr. Thomas lieberden, Mr. James
Penton, and Mr. J. Wells Taylor. Several other gentlemen were
proposed, whose election will take place at the next meeting. Some
interesting ) re, cuts of seeds and plants and additional donations to
the conservatory building fund were reported.
CoNsECRATL)N F THE I\ LW CHURCH, WOKING-
DAM, BERIES.—TwiroRD, FRIDA Y. —This edifice, erected at the ex-
pense of J. Walter. Esq., of Boar Wood, Bucks, formerly M.P. for
the Mud: , Was consecrated, yesterday, by the Lord Bishop of Ox-
ford, assist, d by several of the
clergy ofthe diocese. It is a handsome
structure, in the Gothic style, situated in the parish of St. Catherine,
about 200 yards from the donor's residence, and live miles from the
village of Twyford.
CKING iii URDER AT SKIPTCN.—On Monday last
an itiqiie.t was held at Skiptint-in-Craven, before Thomas Brown,
Eq., on view of the body of Mary Rodda, about a year and a half
old, the daughter of John Road)), a la' outer. It appears that Rodda
member of a hui ial clef, and would have been entitled to 2/. 10s.
en tint death of his third. Under
chttsod tonne oil or vitriol, which "trieetpenoucered"bltin
downg vermin. he pur.
mthe throat of his
child whilst she was asleep In the cradle, which caused her death.
The jury returned a verdict of "Wilful murder.'agabt trial tttle
ftthe
father,
who was brought to York Castle on Tuesday, to take
Wahl caws Ili tin iisa% 4etAallapOrtYkri.Ml

THE GAUGE OF RAILWAYS.
(From the Commieeioners' Report.)
SirFrilennelete i,3ilTll. in the char.
Major-General Charles IVilliant Pesley, C. 8., examined—
Will you favour the Commissioners with atiy observations
you may have to make upon the subject which is under their
deliberation ?—Early in the year 1843 a (tient euce of opinion
took place between the directors of the Ulster Railnay. of
which a portion was then formed wit h a single line of rails,
and the Dublin and Drogheda Company, respeeth.g the
gauges of those railways. The Ulster Railway had a gauge
ef 6 feet 2 inches, which they considered tc be the best, and
they objected to the Dublin and Drogheda Railway being
formed with a gauge of 5 feet 2 inchee, which wets then
proposed by Mr., now Sir John, Macneill, tie engineer of
that company, and approved by the directors. It was stated
that these railways must ultimately be united, becanee it was
proposed nt'A
to extend the Dublin and Drogheda Itv:n. to
Belfast, joining the Ulster Railway at some intermediate
point. It was therefore admitted by Loth esaraenees, that
there ought to be an uniformity of gauge between the tr o
lines, anti as each party maintained their own gauge, or pro-
dosed gauge, to lat the best, the matter was refried to lend •
ilipoe, the,. Preen's:tit of the Board of Trade, and of the
Railway Depan molt efGovennuent. Lord Ripon desired me
to inquire into the cases anti to make a report on the sulject.
I acct rdinglv wrote a , secular letter to a number of the most
eminent locomotive engine-makers and railway engineers. to
request that they word i give an opinion. supposing that 1;o
114w:1:is exisren in Et gland. hat-, Seem their experience ui
the tvo• ki. g of the Great Western, and of the Lyndon
and Birmingham, and other existing railwaye, they amid
recumm• 11th us beteg the best gauge for general use. I did
not apply to Mr. Brunel, because I considered him pledged
to the 7 feet gauge, and I theuestat that it would be indeli-
cate to put the questiou to him. I also considered Mr.
re.eplieneon and Mr. Robert Stephenson, who first introduced
iu the narrow gauge cd 4 teat 81/,, inches on passenger railways
E"eslaild, to be pledged in the same manner to that
gauge; 'het it was nor. nry intention at first to have ap-
p.ied to thetas for their opinion. But having
afterwards that thot,e ascertained
gentlemen had expressed a regret that
they had adopter! Lu narrow a gauge a, f feet 81,!,, I wrote
to them also, and they replied that they con: tered that
gauge to be the Leer, &sheen!) they admitted that they
had at one time been of opiition that a wider gauge would
have been desirable ; but they stated that the great improve-
ment., in the construction of lacomonve engines had been
such as to render a gauge of 4 feet 8 not only perfectly con•
venient, but 'inferable to any other. All the other engi-
neers wrote, that they considered 3 feet to be the narrowest,
and 5 fret 6 to be the widest gauge, that was required either
tor the convenience of the machinery of the locometive
engine or for speed orsafety. :Several of them said that they
coral le, ed eome intenneditee gauge, such as 5 Get 3 inches,
to be the be-t. After I had recnved those calamine:tenons,.
b silos coin's of a leuethemed coreeeponienee between the
two railway companies ia Ireland that 1 have mentioned, I
mane me report to the Earl of Ripon, dated the 10th of
March, -1813, in which 1 rce/Unnence l that the gange of 5
feet 3 inch-•s should be sanctioned fur tee Dublin and Drog-
heda Reitway, and that all fisture railways in Ire ond Omni
be requited re adopt this gauge, and that us the Dubltit and
Kingstown Reilway, and the Ul- ter Railway, the only outs
then made in Ireland, were of very linked length, the di-
rectors of those railways should be required to change their
gauge to 5 feet :3 inches, when tney became connected with
other railways, which would not be attended with any veva-
greet inconvenience or expense, especially as the •Ulster
Railwey had only oee line of rails. This opinion havinte been approved of by his Lornship, was authorised for all
Ireland ; and, I believe, that the 5 feet 3 gauge has accord-
ingly been introduced in all railway Bills that have passed
since. My report, to which I have alluded, together with
all the eurrrspundence on the subject, and the opinions of the
several engineers. whom I quoted, was printd as part of
the report of the officers of the railway department to the
Lords of the Cientnittee of Privy Council tie- Trade fur the
3 ear 1843, and I beg leave to refer the Commissioners to that
report for further deteila At that time it appeared to me
too late to attempt to introduee an uniform -gauge in Great
Britain, where at that time tour several gau revailed, to
wit, the Great Western and its extensienaantibranches of
7 feet, whilst the Eastern Counties Railway to Colchester,
and the Northern and Eastern Railway from Lendon
to
Bishop's Stortford, were on a gauge of 5 feet, recommended
by Mr. Braithwaite, but the London and Birming-
ham, and all the other passenger railways in
England, were on the narrow gauge of 4 feet BA.
This last gauge also applied to the Edinburgh anti Glasgow,
and to the Glasgow and Ayr, and other railway's proceeding.
from Glasgow, whilst the 5 feet 6 gauge had bees adopted
on the Dundee and Arbroath, and on the Arbroath and For-
far Railways. I remained of the same opinion until lately,
when the appointment of this Commission by Ler Majesty
induced me to reflect more upon the subject; and the esta-
blishment of an uniform gauge for all Great initaaa appears
to me so very important, that the advantages of it will far
outweigh the temporary inconvenience to the travelling
public, ant the expense of establishing it. I still consider
that :he gauge of 5 feet 3, recommended for lrelaed in cots-
y with the ()Onions of the most entineat lo,toinotive
engitte-makets and railway engineers, net pledged to arty of
the existing gauges, ie the best, and that the narrow gauge
of 4 feet ilea might be increased to this width very easily.
The name bridges. viaduct., and tunnels. and the SWIM
sleepers would answer, tut new axle, for the locsmotive en-
gin' a and tenders would be require:. In respect to the car-
riages, the b :dies or tipper part would also answer, but it
would be neces-are to alter the frames as well as to make
new axle... In altering the frames, all the transverse parts
or cross pieces wood require to e condemned, and wider
transverse piec s introduced; but so much of the original
frames would seili remain available, that I have reason to
believe that this expense would be very moderate, probably
hit exceeding 30/. per carriage. In respect to the Great
Western and other railways on the broad gauge, the same
remark applies. The same longitudinal sleepers would
shswer, as well as the transoms or yr .ss pieces after the
letter are cut shorter. The axles of the locomotive engines
and tenders, and the axles of all the carriages, would remdre
to be altered ; and the frames et the carriages would require
to be taken to pieces, and the transverse parts shortened.
In respect to the locnes of the carriages. I consider that they
wouti slid be availehle for the gauge ef en feet 3, because Sir
John Macneill, wl.o adopted that gauae, has made Lis car-
images as nide as thus,: of the Great Western for the Dublin
aii4 Drogheda Railway, remit I believe, of the same height;
and no inconvenience or danger has resulted from using
' :hose wide-bodied carriag-s upon the 5 feet 3 gauge, since
that bee ivis opened, nearly a year and a half op,. Several
carriages on the AlaLchester anti Leeds Rails ay also have
been made 8 feet wide, that is of the sepia width as the
Great West era Railway carriages, and no danger or accident
has ecurred, from having those wide-bodied carriages upon
axles am' wheels suited to the narrow gauge of 4 feet Sta.
I hate further to observe, as a proof of the facility with
which the gauge of a railway may be alterei3, that on the
Nurtlilk Railway being made to connect with the Northern
and Eastern Railwey. the existing gauge not only of the
latter, but also of the Eastern Counties Reliwav, which two
comeanirs had become amalgamate.!, was altered from 5 feet
to 4 feet Bi, under the directions of Mr. Robert Stephenson.
This was uotie in six *reeks, in a very able and effective
manner, without occasioning any accident, and without ma-
terially impeding the traffic tin those railways, which con-
tinued as usual, one line only having been altered at a time,
and temporary sidings made, where the up and down trains
passed each other. I have only further to observe, that Ido
not think that Messrs. Stephensoe's oeinien of the sufficiency
of the narrow gauge of 4 feet 8 for all purposes, has been
borne out by the subsequent experience of more then two
years. The gauge of 4 feet Bif does not admit of a boiler of
sufficient diemeter, or of a fit e-inex of sufficient width, to
give such power to the locomotive en.gines as is required by
the present stale of railway travelling. Mr Robert Stel] 11-
son has attempt& d to get. rid of this disadvantage by length-
ening his boilers in the last engines constructed by him,
which are also made with outside cylinder.. The lengthen-
ing of the boilers appears to me to be a faiturr, since it has
not produced engines equal in priwe. to there of the Great
Western Railway ; anti some of his engines with long
boilers, which I' have observed by travelling upon them,
especially the one called the White Horse of Kent,
used on the South-Eastern Railway, go very unsteadily,
oscillating or rolling very much, which, if the speed were
mater:ally increased, I think might prove dangerous, ar,d
which must have a tendency to injure the permanent rail-
way. I never went above 45 miles an hour upon an engine
of this description, but I consider that it they attempted a
speed of upwards of 50 or 60 miles an hour, which I have
seen attained on the Great Western Railway (the possibility
of which speed, however, I doubt with such engines), 1 no
not think that they would be altogether safe ; indeed my
opinion is that they would roll over if thea- attained that
speed. As a further proof of the inefficiency of long boilers
to obtain the object in view, I may remark that the engines
made by Messrs. Sharp (brothers), formerly Sharp and
Roberts, of Manchester, as well as by Mr. Treyethirk, of the
Grand Junction Railway at Crewe, and by Mr. Jot& Gooch,
of the S•ath-Western Railway, travel as quick as those long
boiler engines of Mr. Stephenson, and much steadier. theb,g
t, the narrowness of the 4 feet SIA, gauge, 31r. John Gooch
has made some of his goods e.ignies wi,ll elliptical bode a.
the transverse or longest axis being vertical, at filch may
render them a little more top heany than the others, but.
considering that they are iritended f r sh.w (raj;
fruon
it
.
no of craw to this co, arnica°, 1 bar, tart or o.
that the b,ilers of the Great Western lecomotive
constructed und-r the. direction of Mr. Daniel Gooch, hunt
eylindera or 4 feet interior diameter, and it has not been
mumd necessary or protbatile to increase the diameter of du-
l)yond that, which appears to be recent/a-et on that
railway as the maximum, though the gauge would admit of
much larger ones. And I shall conclude by observing that
the proposed gauge of 5 feet 3 ninths cf a beater of 4 feet
diameter, or even of 8 or 4 inches more if required; sa that I
consider this gauge sufficient fin* all purposes, utile% it were
wished to travel much faster than the Great Western ex-
press trains new do, the speed of which satisfies me.
in You are of opinion that the break of gauge is a great evil
the cettutry?—The gteateet possible disadvantage.
And you think that the best way of remedying that is by
a total reto ni ot the existing railwaye, so as to produce oue
entire harmotly of gauge ?-1 do. I may observe that, it: all
probability, the manage of railways in Great Britain will be
doubled, or may be trebled. iu the course of a certain number
tifyears It certainly will be anlbten, and therefore that is
enother reason fin not adhering to either of the present exit:-
ing gauges, if a better can be adopted,
You t hunk the time has now art ioed for taking some decided
step one wake or another?--I think it has; but it would have
Leen better to have taken it earlier.
You were understood to say that you considered the
lengthening of the buPers in Mr. Stephenson's long engines
to have been a failure; do you attach any importance to the
lengthening of the fire-hex, the defect as regards the fire-box
being in width 2 I have not studied the details of locomo-
tive engines myself; I judge by experience elf those I have
travelled upon, and I consider that Mr. Stephenson'sleugtl
of boiler has t ot producel that effect, which it was natmat
to suppose that it would have done.
You have alluded to the unsteadin ss of some of the long-
foiler engines, the White Horse of Kent is particular; de
von cementer that that is owing to the circumstance that the-
White Horse ot Kent has outside cylinders, and that, there is
no attempt at balancing the moving weight there?—From my
observation of the effect of ()inside cylinders on elle Grand
Junction and on the South-Western Railway, where they
hive been adopted as the last al:pea-ea patteins, I do net
comider that tear tendency is to produce escalation ; and
their axles being straight, are stronger and safer than the
crank-axles aeceeserity need with inside cylinders, which are
continually breaking. I am of opinion, however, that
balancing all the parts of a locomotive engine
as much as possible,. is of great importance: fat ort.
locomotive superintendents of railway companies art.
of this opinion, and have balanctd their crank axles an.
o
every part on this principle. Some few, amongst ‘!hom3
Mr. Robert Stephenson, have not attached so Ltuch..
import-
ance, or any importance that I sin aware of, tn,
.j.;
But it appears to We that the unsteadiness of
the Whitt
Horse of Kent and some other litcontolve engines made IS
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Mr. Robert Stephenson of the came th....sicnlai'at tent arises entirely from the fore and bind wheels b
together. In one engine that I measured, made placed two veer
ade according to
Mr. Robert Stephenson's patent, or 8t his own works (I no
not recollect which), the central distance neninnen the fore
and hind wheels was only 10 feet 9 inches, whilst the dn_
tance from the rear of the fire-box to the front of then:ol(e-
-box was more than 20 feet ; the former projecting entiiei
behind the hind wheels, and the latter being emit ely in front
of the fore itheele. 1 travelled eu arMllcr of Mr, Rojen

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Stephenson's long-boiler enines, which had; two large pair • -
of wheels in rear coupled, and one small pair of wheels ill-
; front. In this engine, although the same general construction
prevailed, there was not that unusual and one may almost say
alarming sort (..f which I observed on the White
Horse of Kent, and others which had only one pair of large
driving-wheds, nitnl Lone of the wheels coupled. At Mr.
&ephenson's works I foutol that another construction was in
progres?, Avhich wns to h ,ve a very large pair of driving- •
wheels behitul and two small pairs of wheels in front, which
the foreman of that establiAliment believed to be calculated
to do arro that sort of oscillation, of which I spoke to him.
Were the front wheels in a Bogie frame?.—hot that I am
aware of ; the en,t,7lne was not finished. I have only seen
11, nit, frAme, on the American engines, used on the Glou-
cester and Lirmingharn Railway.

Do not you confider that the leading wheels 012 the engines
you allude to on the South-Western anti on the Grand J unc-
t ion, having outside and inside bearings, is a great advan-
te I. consider it to be a verygreat advantage ; and
I also cou,ider it an advantage to have the driving-wheels
Sri! Ingcs, r Lich Mr. Stephenson leaves out.
You see no roascn to change the opinion you gave with
respect to the Irish gauge ?—None whatever.
pites anything further occur to von to mention 2—l am of
opinion that, all loco:not ive engines and their tenders ought to
have six wheels, and that the latter ought to have powerful
l.roaks, capable (training upon /ill the six witeels at once, both
in front and in tear: they very seldom have the breaks to
act on both sides, which they ought to do, because it pre.
vonts rac;.ilig the axlcs ; and those more powerful breaks
',.irender a railway collision, if it happened,
and deAructive. I am also of opinion that it is
desirable that the six-wheeled passenger engines of some
railway companies shonbl gradually be adopted by all.