The Sun.
London, England, 1846-02-28 00:00:00

" I don't know ; she was at the station-house." He said, fe,
" So help me God she is innocent ; I keep company with the
girl; she knows nothing about it." Witness told him that
what he said might be used in evidence against him. He said
" It's all right." He was then putting his hand in his pocket,
when witness prevented him. He said " There's nothing
there, I bunged that at Gravesend," He again said, Is he
dead ?" Witness said " Yes." He said, "He was a
rogue to me ; I have had satisfaction ; this has been brew-
ing for him for a twelvemonth. He had me for my money,
and not fer my work." He again said, "Is he really dead?"
Witness said, " Yes." He then said, " I shall die happy, I
dare say I'll suffer." He was searched at the station-house,
and 7s. 2d. was found on him.
William D. Burnaby, chief clerk of the police-court, had
taken down the deposition of the witnesses, and the deposition
enclosed was that of Thompson. The prisoner's observation
on that evidence when it was read aloud to him was " That
it was true enough."
William Pocock, 14 F, was with Thompson when the pri-
soner was taken into custody. At the time when the pri-
soner was going into the station-house door some person
spoke to him, and the prisoner said, " It is revenge," or " I've
had my revenge." During the time the prisoner was in the
charge-room he held out his hand to the witness, and said,
" Well, Pocock, I don't blame you for finding me. He was a
b— bad master ; I wonder he did not get it twelve months
ago. He was then removed to the cell, and
soon after he was there Superintendant Pearce came in,
Prisoner asked him whether Rostock was dead, and when he
answere,. " Yes," he rejoined, "Then I'll die happily my-
self." In the morning, prisoner said, " I suppose its getting
near six o'clock ?" Witness said, " Yes ;" and he replied,
" I was busy enough yesterday morning about this time, but
I was sorry for him after I had done it." He afterwards
added, " Oh ! Pocock, what a thing it is to have a guilty
conscience." He asked whether his mother could have his
clothes, because she might have them as well as Jack
Katch.

Mr. Barnaby re-called—The prisoner said the statement
given by Pocock is strictly true, and my conscience will not
allow me to contradict it. I own lam guilty. He was a
bad master to me, and I wonder I did not do it before.
Dir. Dowton, house-surgeon, King's Gollege Hospital,
said, that the cause of Bostock's death was a gun• shot wound
in the head. A bullet taken from the brain of deceased was
produced in Court.
Cross-examined by Mr. BALLANTLNE—He believed that
the rupture of vessels in the head or concussioitcausing con-
gestion would injure a person's mind. Such an injury might
canse insanity in the case of an elderly person but a younger
might regain the full power of his faculties.
The prisoner's statement before the magistrate was then
read. It added nothing to the evidence already produced.
Mr BALLANTI>TE then rose to address the jury. He
would not attempt to deal with the facts of the case.
He would rather confine himself to the state of the pri-
soner's mind at the time this act was committed. The
Learned Counsel then entered into an analysis of the
different degrees of insanity, and contended that from an in-
jury received some seven or eight years ago the prisoner's
brain was affected to such a degree that he (although ap-
parently sane enongh on ordinary matters) had this singu-
lar morbid delusion, that every action of his late master's,
however kind that might be, was distorted into an act of
tyranny, and to be revenged accordingly. The Learned
Counsel reviewed the whole facts adduced in evidence, and
endeavoured from them to carry out the particular line
of defence he had laid down.
Mrs. Wicks (mother of the prisoner) was then called, and
stated that her son had received a severe injury by a fall,
which had for a short time the effect of unsettling his under-
standing. He attempted to commit suicide about two years
ago.
Mr. Harvey, surgeon, proved that the prisoner had met
with an accident, which had considerably injured his head,
at the period referred to by the mother.
Mr. Baron PARKE then summed up, and
The jury retired, but had not returned their verdict when
our report left.

THE STUN, LONDON SATURDA

The LORD ADVOCATE presented a petition from
Lanarkshire to the same effect.
FROST, WILLIAMS, AND JONES.
Mr. FERRAND presented two petitions from Keathley and
Knaresborough, praying for the liberation of Frost, Williams,

and Jones.
Mr. T. S. DUNCOMBEivioved that the petition of William
Scott, chairman of a public meeting of the inhabitants of
Dundee, complaining of the illegal treatment and imprison-
ment of six factory girls (presented last night), be printed
with the votes.—Agreed to.
• THE CASE OF BRIAN SEERY.
Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL said he had been accused by a
morning paper of having given notice of a motion end then
withdrawn it, because he was ashamed to persist in it. Now
the truth was, that he had never done anything in that House
of which he had reason to be ashamed. He did net withdraw
his motion for any such reason as had been imputed to him
by the paper in question. The fasts of the case were these :
He had given notice of a motion to obtain the names of the
people who had composed that deputation. In the course of
that notice he had made use of a very strong expression, to which
his attention had been recently drawn, and he believed that in
the use of that term he had, to a certain extent, com-
mitted a breach of the rules of the House. He deeply
regrettel the use of the expression on that account, and he
thought that it was his duty to apologise to the House for this
breach of the respect to which the House was entitled. Bet
yet at the same time he was bound o assert that he
had been wrongfully accused by the morning papers in question.
Sir R. H. INGLIS could not help thinking that the orders
of the House had been violated, and that this statement of
the Hon. Gentleman was anything but satisfactory, and that
something more was required of h:m than a mere
apology to the House—( Hear, and cheers)=when he limited
his regi et to the House for the use of such an expression as
that of the "blood hound deputation," he committed a violence
on the intelligence of society at large. The Hon. Gen-
tleman had expressed regret for the use of this expres-
sion of the "blood-hound deputation ;" and he felt it was
only consistent that some larger apology should be made. He
found with some surprise the expression contained in the votes
with n hieh he had been furnished; that the words were clearly
out of order was shown by the circumstance of the sheet having
been cancelled ; and he thought, therefore, that there was
something due to society at large, and he wished that the
Hon. Gentleman would only express his regret with the same
frankness to society at large as he had done for this breach of
:he orders of the House.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL—Sir, I have expressed my regret for
the use of that expression to the House; but I beg to inform
the Honourable Baronet that I used that expression in the
discharge 01 my duty to society at large, and therefore I feel it
unnecessary to suppress it.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir R. H. INGLIS--I think, Sir—
The SPEAKER—The Hon. Baronet is clearly out of
order.
Sir R. H. INGLIS—Then there is no help for it.—
( Laughter. )
And thus the subject dropped.
PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill passed through Committee, and was reported.
THE MILITIA.
On the question that the House at its rising do adjourn to
Monday next,
Mr. R. YORKE wished to ask the Right Hon. the Secretary
at War when it was the intention of the Government to bring
forward any measure respecting the enrollment of the militia?
Mr. S. HERBERT said it was impossible for him to give
an answer at present. He would, however, do so at as early a
period as possible.
THE VACANT SEATS ON THE TREASURY
BENCH.

Colonel SIBTHORP said that, seeing the First Lord
of the Treasury in his place, he would put a question to him.
He would not complain of any want of courtesy, for to
that he was perfectly indifferent. He, however, represented a
constituency who had sent him to discharge a duty, and on that
account he rose to put the question with which he should conclude.
He took the liberty last night, seeing the Treasury benches in
a situation which he had not seen for twenty years before, and
which he hoped he might never see again—(Laughter)—
that very important offices remained without their repre-
sentatives in that House, particularly the offices of
the Secretary for the Colonies (Mr. Gladstone), and
the Secreary for Ireland (the Earl of Lincoln), a most im-
portant office, when the present condition of Ireland was
considered. Not seeing those gentlemen filling any situation
in the present session of Parliament—(Great laughter)—he
thought it his duty to ask the Right Honourable Baronet
(Sir Reheat Peel), whether there was a fair and early
opportunity of seeing any of those Hon. Gentlemen,
or all of them in their respective situations, to which, how-
ever, (as we understood) he had received no reply. He now
wished to repeat the question—Was there a probability of an
Opportunity being afforded to Members of that House of wit-
nessing an early appearance of these gentlemen or any of
them in their place in that House—(Continued laughter.)—
in order that Honourable Members might be
enabled to put important questions to them
which came within the province of their department ?
(Laughter.) But if the Right Hon. Baronet refund to
answer these questions he (Colonel Sibthorp) could not help
it ; at any rate he would have the satisfaction of having dis-
charged his duty to his constituency.—( The Gallant Member
sat down amidst roars of laughter from both sides of the
House.)
Sir ROBERT PEEL hoped that neither the Gallant Offieor
or any other Member of the House had any just ground for
blaming him for want of courteiy.—(Loud cheers from both
sides of the House.) Certainly in replying to any question
connected with the public service, he could not charge
himself with that want of courtesy which the Gal-
lant Member seemed to attribute to him.—( Hear. )
But he (Sir Robert Peel) appealed to the House whether the
Gallant Officer concluded his speech last night with putting
the question which he had just addressed to him—(Cheers and
laughter)—or by saying he should put it this evening? He
(Sir Robert Peel) protested against Hon. Members
making long speeches on the question of the adjourn-
ment of the debate.—(Cries of '6 Hear, hear.") In this
he agreed with the Hon. Member for Northamptonshire (Mr.
S. O'Brien) who deprecated, as he did, the practice of occu-
pying the time of the House by irrelevent remarks in putting
questions to the Government ; however, it appeared to him (Sir
R. Peel) that it was natural to the Gallant Officer to use
vituperative language in addressing the House, possibly,
perhaps, because he believed his independence was in danger.—
(" Hear, hear," from Colonel Sibthorp, and loud laughter.)
The Honourable Gentleman said he would ask a question of
the Right Honourable Baronet (Sir R. Peel)—When he ex-
pected that the vacancies which had taken place in public
offices would be filled up? and he was prepared to
say that the only office vacant was that of Com-
missioners of Woods and Forests. There were two
other gentlemen, Members of the Treasury, who had signified
to him their intention of tendering their resignations ; but
thole offices were not actually vacant, because these Gentle-
men in question consented to hold them until
some opportunity offered of filling them up,—(Loud
laughter.) He confessed it was a very inconvenient thiug
to have public officers, requiring seats in that House, withent
them.—(Laughter.) But he was sure the public service
would not sustain any injury in consequence. The Honourable
Gentleman asked him a very unusual question, to say when the
Secretary of the Lord-Lieutenant in Ireland would be in his
place. Now he (Sir Robert Peel) with great respect begged to
say that he was not responsible for his absence, and that he
thought the Secretary could best answer that question himself.
The Gallant Officer complained that the Secretary for the Cole-
nies was not in the House, and he( Sir R. Peel) should give him
the same answer as he did respecting the other vacancies, that
that Gentleman could best answer why he was net there.—
(Renewed laughter.) But this he would say, that one of the
main reasons that they were not there was, that he had such a
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Mr. FERRAND begged that the kind indulgence of the
House would be afforded to him whilst he defended himself
from the personal attacks of no less than four Members upon
he opposite side of the House, made upon the last night of
debate. Had he received any intimation of their intention, he
should certainly have been in his place, but unfortunately a
particular engagement had prevented him. He had to thank
the Hon. Baronet sitting under him for his kindness in de-
defending him against those unmanly attacks. And he con-
sidered that the Hon. Member for Bath should have been the
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last person in that House who ought to have made
use of the following expression :—" I am quite
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floor, and recommended Hon. Members to horsewhip a gentle-
man who was his superior in every respect. The Hon. Mem-
ber also asked whether that gentleman was worthy of regard,
when he expressed an opinion? He should measure that re-
mark by the ordinary test applied to the Hon. Member's own
profession. Would any person give a guinea, a half guinea,
half a crown, or even half a farthing for the Hon. Member's
opinion on a gentleman's conduct ? The public had that value
for the opinion of the Hon. and Learned Member, that they
would not give the half of a half-farthin
g for his opinion, and
that was one of the sore points that rankled in his breast. He
(Mr. Ferrand) would not continue to allude any further to the
Member, but would pass on to an attack made upon him
by the Hen. Member for Durham, who had spoken to the effect
that " he would take the liberty of saying that almost every
portion of the speech of the Hon. Member for Knaresbcreugh,
with respect to the meeting of starch menu facturers,wae incorrect,
as Mr. Wilson never called a meeting of the starch manufacturers.
Mr. Wilson never presided at such a meeting, and such
a deputation as he described never waited on Sir Robert Peel."
The Hon. Member had put words into his (Mr. Ferrand's)
mouth which he never used. He never said that a part of
the meeting was formed into a deputation to wait upon the
Government. What he said was, that the chairman of the
Anti-Corn-law League called a meeting of all the starch manu-
facturers at Manchester, and a resolution was passed at that
meeting that a deputation should wait upon the Right Hon.
Baronet on the subject of the duty on starch. The deputation
did go, and now lobsters and starch were the only two
things that had the slightest mercy in the tariff. He never
said that Mr. Wilson was one of the deputation
that waited on the Right Honourable Baronet, and
he would now proceed to justify the statement he made to the
House. On the 9th of February, 1843, he received a letter to
the following effect :—" I take the liberty of troubling you
with a few particulars which will show the sort of disinterested
reformers some of the members of the Anti-Corn-law League
are. You will, perhaps, take the trouble of satisfying yourself
of the correctness of the statement before you make any public use
of it." Be (Mr. Ferrand) did satisfy himself as to the
correctness of the statements, and the first public use he made
of the letter was on Tuesday last. The writer went on to say
that when Sir R. Peel in his new tariff put
.starch at 51. per
cwt. after it had been at 91. per cwt., Mr. Wilson took the
chair at a meeting of the starch naanufacturers, for the purpose
of taking eff the duty on native starch and putting a prohibi-
tory duty of 25 per cent. on foreign starch. They succeeded
in doubling the duty, as a deputation from the meeting waited
on the Board of Trade. The writer concluded by stating that
it might be inferred from his letter that he was not a free-
trader, but the inference would be erroneous—he was a free-
trader, but he did not wish in obtaining his object to associate
himself with such free-traders as those he had mentioned. The
writer subscribed himself " Samuel Burlington," and dated his
letter from Manchester, Feb. • 19, 1845. In the month of
December lie (Mr. Ferrand) was in the town of Man-
chester, and he saw several gentlemen, whom he asked
if that statement was correct. They informed him that
it was entirely so, and added that they believed Mr.
Wilson formed part of the deputation. On the day fol-
lowing he attended a large meeting in the borough of Stock-
port, where he read this communication, and stated that he
had understood Mr. George Wilson formed part of the depu-
tation which went to the Government. The Manchester
Guardian (the paper of the Anti-Corn. law League) attacked
him in a leading article for having made this statement, and
denied positively that Mr. G. Wilson had formed 'art of the
deputation. It, however, admitted that the deputation had
s
waited upon
the Government, and did not deny in the slightest
degree that Mr. G. Wilson convened the meeting, or that the
resolution for sending up the deputation was passed while he
presided over it. He had that day seen three gentlemen, all
of wham were perfectly well acquainted with the circum-
stances of this matter • they had seen the statement tie made
on Tuesday night, and they assured him it was perfectly cor-
rect. To that statement, therefore, he was prepared to ad-
here, and he should not retract one particle of it until the Hon.
Member for Durham could convince that House that Mr. G.
Wilson did not convene and preside at the meeting
which passed the resolution appointing the deputation.