The Sun.
London, England, 1846-03-10 00:00:00

haight Hon. Baronet for the details into which he
faltered,
, n A
6'hear] L'-''''It,YWELIT, was sure that nobody who hed
f,',"is Hun. Friend the Memter for Sotnersetshirc,
, h that he , • perfectly siecere
*44 I, , but meet tee. was
laap. ° "e'larrd, in the strongest and most emphatic
Pee7,lll:g'; that he sympathised with the sufferings of the
tawl f that pinof the. United Kingdom, whose p ,
vre, teth'd teas the potato.—(Hear, hear.) Now, whet.
ae position of the questicri? His Hon. Friend line
wase Ste
which were exceedingly exaegereted ; it
ps„a"true that 87,000.000 quarters of corn could he
Pereu„enelfin America. It was ailmi ted ;het a very large
trop °` the People of leeland dept nil upon the pet ato-
camp their only means of sustentation; now, if they
higherbY any Proceeding of theirs produce a taste for a
a
ileeeh eseription of food among that people, and intro-
abitsofindustry which would be calculated to make
the
aieerS able to live ripen that food, they would be effecting
tetti'sfi ti,ie most practical measures of reform,' of any pr.
Oft4r, kallon would he able to assist them but little, bet it
oth)ells‘%,ol,,t),tp.pb:neeeddetihaat an affliction of Providence produced
1 effects. They should, ther.efo_rre:.tak.e
te 1"Ion that there would be such a result ni Leland,
hid tltat the famine would produce a demand for a
11 47 kind of food.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord
uhr
potatoto educed into th.i house some specimens of tht
atc,i,,?. grown by a Mr. Chapman, which were of an
toe-eine:a- healthy nature, though they were slips
lea ra".r"ni unhealthy plants. He (the Hon. Member)
earl personal inquiries, all of which confirmed the
fesettEhnia received by other Hon. Gentlemen and laid be-
t'rpos-jaatonikalse ; and he therefore believf d that the in-
°Pllert or Government at the present moment west,
man t of
He also believed that, before the lapse. o
tot ii.ejid-lieara, the potato would recede from the position
ard at Present as an article of staple food, to its
Instry level as a vegetable, which he believed would
,t,glreat blessing to the pie pie of Ireland.—(Hear.).
di.
niter
s f„ a few words from Mr. NEWDEGATE, which
reach the gallery;
more SHARMAN CRAWFORD said, there were
taat l'easens than one why it was absolutely necessary
ti▪
dodurre than a temporary affliction should be pro-
Reilegain,t. In the first place, to his knowledge,
(444-''.6 the last ten or twelve years, there had been
hofor in the potato crop in various forms. In the year
teamed the last, the disease appeared in the corn; but ae
athet a-`ll the potato crop, he had every real, to fear
'4'resola",°l•l:d not he removed speedily.—(f leer, hear.)
thaeS4.4le6e and other mesons, he was inclined to think
the;Possible, other measures .should be adopted for
m tae of the people of that country. He thought
ikeer greatest bit ssing to Ireland would be to lead the
kiate of that Country not to depend alone upon the.
to 1) for food. It would, indeed, be a great blessing
Gear land if they could get cheap food.—
hoet'al) The eople thie 'country wondered
lieole7'e Ireland lived at all. To enaale the Irish,
eagleLc' lire they must be furnished, with plenty of
1.41 dtePote should be glad to find the one shil
Let ,allty taken off the Indian corn.—(Hear, hear.)
I.l° House imagine how a man and his wife and
it peeailaren were to provide food, when for that family
to4cl.llired five bushels of potatoes at three pence a
L Tr, ME hoped that Indian corn would be brought
hoienpetition with wheat. as it would enabletle
tosi,ie to obtain good and wl olesome food, when wheat
tlair not be obtained. He, therefore, hoped that the
diuty even would be abolished.
Iteea.°et" SIBTIIORP wished to know if he had under-
thatt he
Hon. Member for Rochdale rightly, in saying
4Ce wages of the Irish labourer were as low as
it
tr, 'Per week If that were the case, all he could say
Wthe Lord have mercy upen them. He had no
ihtati"that they were an excellent people.
a,' Iret saying been exposed
W a good deal about them. He had
wer
order and, and yet he had never witnessed in the I
of the Irish anything but kindheartedness and
it aigiilil; He did not won,.er at their being discontented,
‘teeie,i, wages were only 2s. per week. He was
tae "eed more than ever that the proposed measure
le? ere trash, and utterly worthless.
it's a.; SHARMAN CRAWFORD observed that for
hit's a.;
be would very gladly see the duty of one shil-
ThPar quarter removed.
kW:, Earl of MARCH said that the Hon. Member
to stated that considerable disease existed in the pots-
of Scotland, and that there was every probe-
the 3(l!.(if. the disease becoming as extensive as it was in
that sited States. He (Lord March) felt bound to say
Aersate had received letters only that morning from
thtteti's residing in Morayshire and Ayrshire, which
and that the disease did not exist in those counties,
tiki that there was every prospect of a good and plen-
sirereia
•
tate mARTHUR BROOKE observed that the general
to is wages in the north of Ireland averaged from 10d.
auali:4ll sometimes to Is. Bd. per day. A considerable
keeair of the landed proprietors, with incomes from
or iaot„9,ooo/. a-year, furnished employment to 100
,attice,„,"°ourers throughout the year. If. the same
aisle the wages a was paid in Ireland as in England,
ti,ttriria `4l)(lllrers would be thrown out of employ
her 11aP`'rtfen of the year. He was bound to thankwhichJets,tY's Ministers, and others, for the great anxiety
thecahad manifested to guard against the
they
famine in Ireland ; but, at the same time, he
et:lnsight that unless measures were taken to introduce
the slit employment among the labouring classes,
of JaWoula not be much benefited by the bringing in
4e,,:naaP food. He (Sir A. Brooke) had seen, during
tae
Years, the usual food of the Irish people sold as
taeras 10e. per quarter, during which period never had
eett e been known so much starvation and di-tress in the
%t4ttnitry.
And why ? Because the farmers, who held
the s, 1'"1)8, averaging from 20 to 30 acres, finding that
*eeriee of their produce was reduced in the market,
hnpree°inpelled to diminish the number of their la-
veeeCel.st He did hope that her Majes y's Government
1114, take into consideration the means of devising al
tb:,Y which constant employment might be secure(
*Ol6 'bourer. As to railroads, he considered that thry.
The
Ire'`l° Pronuctive of great misfortunes, and more evils
411 and than any other evil which he could conceive.
keitiatl,),resent condition of Ireland was not adapted to
vet -In the number of railroads that wereintended to
try w°llStrueted and carried on. The traffic in the coun
likttle" comparatively small. The duty of furnishing
Atieatoent to the labourer rested first of all with the
1111:.tl id.. Proprietors of Ireland. They should put their
Iliie,"ers to the wheel sod use their most energetic
,the "yours to supply food and employment for
Ittediwtatched and unfortunate people. The resident
tt'sev(la would be willing, he was sure, when the exi-
;'tttl,euonlel arrive, to provide for the poor on their own
L'aeta„. The landlords' were dividable into three classes.
le terra 'ere the absentees, the middlemen, and, lastly, the
111" ti-siut'• If the Government want to see Ireland pros-
threeil()Taltod happy, they must deal first of all with these
e'l:ktieleases. The only way in which he could suggest
Cite three classes should be dealt with, was to
h,"4: ,"111 in the power of the poor-law guardians,. who,d
as'ie, "4,see of distress and famine happened in their le-
,' eel 'walla possess authority to levy extra poor-rates,
• Paid by the landlords, the absentees, and middl?-
mlit When he made use of the term absentees, he did
:rehash to include all who did not reside on their
,`"'n ; There were several noble exceptions, in such
t'd! '1! the Earl Fitzwiliatn, the Duke of Devonshire,
t.-'tejt"ta"s, who, although not living in Ireland, ream-
Oa "'e greatest care to see that the comforts of their
t,°*ll.: were properly attended to. Hej(Sir A. Brooke)
knew of some proprietors who had never seen
„"titallialfts and who had not visited their estates for a
i'liertehof 30; years, and the consequence was, that the
landlord was obliged to provide for the people
ta"'olCiets of d'iE • It and distress. Without employ-
' iti,";vas hist firm conviction that it would be useless
cheap fried into the country.
• -,;,-uOLTLETT SCItOPE thought that the poor
.of
• ." should h • the right of relief from the district
htlitttvhaieb theyhave
ttached. It had been mentioned
;ta .t-eLre Was awt('lreesaent an ebundance of food in Ireland,
11)ilea8rold be present an abundance of food in Ireland
PidLlUtd be borne in mind, that that food was
le)N'y being carried out of the country. It would be
„alisepieable that an additional supply should be ob-
►":°a, tied Bitable
America ; he considered, however, that the
ties of Ireland should be allowed to be fully de
:",,4ity%,4,„‘nd exhausted before they applied to the gene-
.tnglatid, or had recourse to the superabund-
Sie; America. He trusted that the wants of the
e q Ireland should be supplied from the resources
%eel district where the distress should exist, and he
trai,i that her Majesty's Government would keep that
nea'ekeration in mind in dealing with the question. H.e
kle;''slit, that the bounty of England might be repaid in
ti,4l 1,..1,1:1e by the levying of district taxes.
thou ht it was extremely desirable that
,ma•
Vee of food should be reduced to so low an amount,
altelrtaPoesible They had heard that wages were so
rd • ,;"at it Was impossible for the best-disposed land-
,, Pay his labourers more than five shillings a
was additional reason why the price of food
redu d Sonic inquiries had been made at an
'gee Period ce •e ter information respecting
of the even.' g
lee't ka7„a,Corn, which it had been proposed to bring
taisY's Government had introduced.a measure to
(4 Indian corn, of which. there was a large supply.
P.l.`a Member for Some, setehire had supplied him
sae) eetta
a •w.th a
11'4• had proved that it was an excellent article of
eLonly difference between them was that the
)0,7 artiel"r thought that Indian corn, being an excel-
ee. tit h eof food, ought to be kept out of the country,
411', be. (Mr. Escott) was of opinion that Indian
,11% being an excellent article offood,d ought
he,Teeteet into the country.—(Hear, ari cheers.)
le ere setanee had occurred some time back, the par-
t4e, tit'4l which came under his own personal know-
thi twhich he would state to the house. A large
*,;:etiti'tio` Indian corn had been brought into pert
a-" Dr e'r•Y, but owing to the severity of the duty, it
telth:Cteauted from being landed. The consequee
0ta,41011a,`," who's of the corn was transhipped, takendf
taitowe-',.tand used in feeding Dutch cattle instea
teal-4,1'4i eh Would ask, what is the state of the
,ci"°orer at this moment with respect to the only
1.`41t Ifood,which he ever, by any chance
ett es , a
°F teb, viz., bacon and pork ? Why, in nine cases
tetieh to where the agricultural labourer is respectable
tetettl6' is eice'l3 a pig, one half of it is pawned before
it'adisie.th'illed, in order to supply the labourer and his
hitidy With
,e'lnitnon necessaries. Now, what a blessing
hc&l a f„.:f every agricultural labourer mild keep fer
!he-ittie th::' Pig., or even two. He (Mr. Escott) knew of
are.`Thete.' would tend more to exalt the condition of
taitevea i:srig Poor than a plentiful supply of food. He
ta:a the hem the extension of trade and commerce would
Lai t*onht 4rket for agricultural produce to an extent
te "I
414 (4grai P Y repay any imaginary reduction. in the
Nis 3e,ear pia' What was it that had, during the pre-
asae'' '"ven an impulse to agriculture, and partially
etehqi be 4- condition of the agricultural labourer ? It
.tlir4:l4l4etribed to no other cause than the increase of
tlat'aia "' Which bad taken place in consequence of
Whirl plkeerelaxation hi productive duties, which had
teliLl* had 0,4 tow years ago. It was this relaxation
aa_ttiteaeo,tven a degree of proseerity to the
Itekeet which it had never previously experienced.
'4IIS was of opinion that the Government