The Sun.
London, England, 1846-02-28 00:00:00

RAILWAY COMMITTEES•
(YESTERDAY.)

IMPERIA.L PARLIAMENT.
fIOUSE OF LORDS, Feb. 27.
The LORD CHAIiczLLoB, took his seat on the Woolsack at
Five o'clock

FRIDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE.
LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S-OFFICE, FEB. 2willbo3, 1846.
a
Notice is hereby given, that her Majesty ld
Drawing-room, at St. James's Palace, on Thursday, the 19th
of March next, at two o'clock.
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 25th day of
February, 1846, present the Queen's Most ExcellenCsla-
esty in Council. This day the Most Honourable James
51acquis of Abercorn, Knight of the Most Noble Order of the
Garter, and the Right Ilonourabe James Archibald Stuart
Wortley, were, 1w her Majestyl's continent], sworn of her
Majesty's Most Ilottouraille Privy Council, and took their
respective places at the Board accordingly.
At the Court, at Buckingham Palace, the 25th day of
February, 1846, present, the Queen's most Excellent Majesty
in council. Her Majesty in council was this day pleased to
appoint Daniel Peploe Peploe, of Garnetone, Esq., to be Sheriff
of the county of Hereford, in the room of John Francis
Vaughan, of Courtfield, Esq.
DOWNING-STREET, FEB. 26.
The Queen has been pleased to appoint Brevet Major
George Hutt, of the Bombay Artillery ; Brevet Major
Rebert Henderson, of the Madras Engineers ; and Brevet
Major Joshua Tait, of the Sixth Regiment of Bombay
Native Infantry, to be Companions of the Most Honourable
Military Order of the Bath.
CROWN-OFFICE, FEB. 27.
MEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT
PARLIAMENT.
County of Northampton (Southern Division)—Richard
Henry REichard Howard Vyse, of Stoke-plain, in the said
sq., in thea room cf William Ralph Cartwright,
county,
Esq., who has accepted the office of Steward of her Majesty's
Chiltern Hundreds.
WAR-OFFICE, FEB. 27.
7th Light Dragoons—Lieut. A. Ilelvar,
to be Captain, by
purchase, vice Grasett, who retires; Cornet
llelyar Sir W.;
W Russel
D.
l,
Bart., to be Lieutenant, by purchase, -vice .
Bushe, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Sir NV . Russell ;
Feb. 27.
6th Regiment of Foot—J. R. Blake, Gent., to Ensign by
purchase, vise Standish, who retires, Feb. 27.
Kin
7th Foot—Lieutenant J. g, from the 2d Foot, to be
Lieutenant, vice D. J. Dickinson, who retires on half-pay 2d
Foot ; Ensign It. C. Stanhope, from the 56th Foot, to be
Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Lord L tngford, who retires,
Feb. 27.
44th Foot—Lieut. R. Feilden to be Captain, by purchase,
vice Turner, who retires ; Ensign the Hon. C. W. H. Aga,
to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Feilden ; R. Preston,
Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Agar, Feb. 27.
48th Foot—Gentleman Cadet C. J. O. Swaffield, from the
Royal Military College, to be Ensign, without pukhase
vice Gubbius, appointed to the 85th Foot, Feb. 27.
55th Foot—Major-General A. G. Lord Saltoun, K.C.8., to
be Colonel, vice General Sir W. IL Clinton, G.C.8., deceased,
Feb. 23.
56th Foot—F. H. Sykee, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase,
vice Stanhope, promoted in 7th Foot, Feb. 27.
80th Foot—Gentleman Cadet Hon. J. H. M. Browne, from
the Royal Military College, to be Ensign, without. purchases
vice Fraser, deceased, Feb. 27.
85th Foot—Lieut. A. Patterson to be Captain, without
purchase, vice Coape, deceased • Ensign C. Warburton to be
Lieutenant, vice Patterson, -Jan. 13; Ensign J. Gubbins,
from the 48th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Warburton, Feb. 27.
UsarractiEn.—Lieutenant H. Reynolds, from the 2d
Foot, to be Captain, without purchase, Feb. 27.
GaimusoNs.—General Sir G. Anson, G.C.8., to be Lieu-
tenant-Governor of Chelsea Hospital, vice General Sir
W. H. Clinton, G.C.8., deceased, Feb. 23.
Commission by the Queen.
Durham Regiment of Militia—Capt. R. 11. S. Jackson to
be Adjutant, Feb. 4.
Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of the County
of Southampton.
To be Deputy Lieutenants—R. Cole, Esq. ;C. B. Wall,
Esg., M.Y. ; the Right Hon. Lord H. Cholmondeley ;
Lgutenant-Colonel F. H. Harcourt ; Sir R. G. Simeon,
Bart.; H. C. Compton, Esq., ILP. ; J. Lobb, Esq.; W.
J. Le Feuvre, Esq. ; Hon. E. A. J. llarris ; G. T. Brice,
Esq.; J. 51. Elwes, Esq., Feb 17.
Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of the County Palatine
Loo
Lancaster.
To be Deputy-Lieutenants—William Shawe, Esq., Feb. 22 ;
R. Atkinson, Esq., Feb. 23.
2d Regiment of the Duke of Lancaster's Own Militia—Sir
Thomas George Hesketh, Bart., to be Major, vice Hornby,
resigned, Feb. 21.
Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Kent.
To be Deputy-Lieutenants—ll. Armytage, Esq. ; J. Deane,
Esq. ; E. D. Brockman, Esq. ; W. Elers, Esq. ; A. Pott,
Esq. ; J. Whatman, Esq. ; C. Child, Esq. ; C. Millington,
Esq. • F. Wilson, Esq., Feb. 24.
eommissions the Lord Lieutenant of Flintshire.
Mir R. Puleston, Bart., to be Deputy Lieutenant; 11. DI. A.
Jones, Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant, Feb. 21.
Flintshire Militia—Sir R. Puleston, Bart., to be Lieute-
nant-Colonel, vice Fletcher, resigned; C. J. W. D. Dundas,
Esq., to be Major, vice Fletcher, resigned ; H. M. A. Jones,
Esq., to be Captain, vice the Marquis of Westminster, re-
signed, Feb. 24.
Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the county of Selkirk.
Dumfries-shire, &c., Regiment of North British Militia—
A. M. Rutherford, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice Irving, de-
ceased, Jan. 22.
Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the county of Bute.
Argyle and Bute Regiment of Militia—ll. Veitch, Gent.,
to be Ensign, vice M'Dougall, Feb. 6.
DECLARATION OF INSOLVENCY.
George Thomas Walker, draper, Portsea.
BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED.
William Carey, hair-dresser, Leamington Priors, Warwick.
1. ire.
Philip Phillips, steel
B penmaker, BiANKßUPTS.rmingham.
Edward Williams, linendraper, Bishopsgate-street, to sur-
render March 10, at two, and April 21, at one, at the Court
of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basingliell-
street ; Dickson and Overbury, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry.
Lewis Reis, James Power, and Gustavus Koenig, soap
manufacturers, Fenchurch-street, March 10, at one, and April
21, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Alsager, official
assignee, Thrchin-lane ; Marten, Thomas, and Hollows,
Mincing-lane.
George Butler Earp, shipbreker, City, March 6, at two,
.and April 10, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pen-
nell, official assignee ; Vardy, Finsbury-place.
John Sandaver, cabinet maker, Kenton-street, Brunswick-
square, March 7, at one, and April 4, at eleven, at the Court
of Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Sambrook-court,
Basinghall-street ; Williams, Alfred-place Bedford-square.
Richard Childs, tailor, Queen Ann-street, Cavendish-
square, March 10, at eleven, a April 7, at half-past twelve,
at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, official assignee;
Edwards and Peake, New Palace- yard.
William White, tailor, Aylesbury, March 4, at two, and
April 11, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Follett,
official assignee, Sambrook-court, Basinghall- street ; Tilleard
and Co, Old Jewr•-.
William Bull Ifarvey.. mercer, Herbert-street, New North-
road, March 6, at one, and April 11, at twelve, at the Court
of Bankruptcy. Green, official assignee, Aldermanbury ;
Cox, Pinnera'-hall, Old Broad- street.
John Shirt, grocer, Broad-street, Lambeth-butts, March 6,
at half-past one, and April 8, at one, at the Court of Bank-
ruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-street-buildings;
Pope, Raymond-building's, Gray's Inn.
Abraham France and William Pullon Lawton, stock and
sharebrokers, Leeds, March 10 and 31, at eleven, at the
Leeds District Court. Kynaston, official assignee, Leeds;
Williamson and Hill, Gray's Inn; Cariss, Leeds.
Abraham France, sharebroker, Leeds, March 10 and 31, at
eles,en, at the Leeds District Court. Kynaston, official
assignee, Leeds; Sudlow and Co., Chancery-lane ; Middleton,
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Sub-committee, No. I

CORN-LAWS.
Lord RADNOR presented petitions in favour of the repeal
of the corn-laws from Killsirnie, in Ayrshire ; Allardice and
three other places, in Forfarshire ; from Taunton
ton, in Somersetshire ; from a place in Montgand Beddinomeryshire, g-
and from Croydon.
VOTE OF THANKS TO THE INDIAN ARMY.
The Earl of RIPON laid on the table the form of the vote
of thanks to the army of India for the late brilliant victory
over the Seikhs, to be moved on Monday next, and suggeetea
that it be printed.
THE CASE OF COLONEL ROCHFORD.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from Colonel
Rochford, of which he had, given notice last night, which had
relation to certain particulars connected with a bankruptcy
in which the petitioner was involved, and which endan-
gered certain property in a manner he considered
very unfairly. The exact facts of the case we
could not learn, from the low tone in which his Lordship spoke,
though the purport was to the foregoing effect. He (Lord
Brougham) thought that a Bill should be passed through Par-
liament to relieve the petitioner from the difficulty in which he
was placed.
COUNTY WORKS PRESBILLENTAIENTS (IRELAND)
This Bill then went through Committee.
DRAINAGE (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion that the House ge into Committee on the
Drainage (Ireland) Bill,
Lord MONTEAGLE said that lit had on a former occasion ex-
pressed hit disapproval of the principle adopted by the Govern-
ment in respect of these Bills. He did not wish to be understood
as opposing them, but still he thought that Parliament should
not be deceived upon the subject, neither did he wish that the
expectations of the Irish people, to whom thes Bills wou d
l be
of great advantage, should be disappointed. Heought that
increased facilities should be given for carrying these
measures into effect, because, as at present con-
stituted, the Board of Works was utterly inadequate
to the labour thrown upon them. At present that Board con-
sisted of only three persons, and it was framed for purposes
widely different and more easy to discharge than the onerous
duties with which they had been of late years invested. Since
the time that the Board had been first formed responsibilities
had been heaped upon them which had not at first
been taken into , consideration. One of the Bills
theat
present before the House was intended to give
Irish sea coast the benefit of an improved fisheries Bill.
This would embrace an extent of 2,200 miles. There was also
another Bill for a public expenditure of money is respect to
the drainage. Now, he would say, that, under any possible
circumstances, and more particularly during the present period
of exigency, they would deceive themselves if they
supposed these Bills would fully effect the relief
for which they were ; designed. Unless the strictest
guard was taken against malversation, they would produce
moral evil instead of physical good. He challenged any
Noble Lord who was present connected with Ireland to say,
that these Bills would be able to effect the good contemplated
unless they strengthened the machinery with which
they proposed to carry them into effect. They
night multiply their Bills like the present and
money votes, but, unless they gave the means of a
practical direction, they would be utterrly ineffective.
The Earl of DEVON was anxious to bear testimony to the
accuracy of the views of the Noble Lord who had just sat down,
but unless individuals came forward to assist the Government,
he kad title hope that these Bills, even if the machinery were
extended, would be productive of the good contemplated. The
soil of Ireland might be made much more productive
than it was at present, and he hailed the Bill with joy, be-
lieving that it would be a great incentive to private enterprise.
He earnestly requested and entreated that the Government
would allow no difficulty to interfere with the passing of the Bill.
Earl ST. GERMANS did not mean to dispute or contradict
the statements made by the Noble Lord who preceded him in
respect to the establishing of the Board of Works, which, he
was aware, had not been increased in proportion to the amount
of work thrown upon it. He was therefore prepared to state
that the Government would consider it well at a future period,
of the measure, and in the mean time it was their determination
to appoint a number of competent military engineers to assist
in the operations.
Lord MON TE AGLE expressed himself entirely satisfied,
and thought the Government should be allowed time to con-
sider of the reconstruction of the Board of Works, particularly
as in the interim a sufficient number of experienced military
engineers would be employed.—( Hear, hear.)
DRAINAGE.
Lord COTTENHAM, who spoke in a very low tone, was
understood to introduce a Bill to facilitate drainage on private
properties. What he would suggest was to make the same
proviso in the present Bill, as there was in the Bill passed last
week. It was, moreover, his opinion that the two Bills should
have been prepared together.
The Earl of ST. GERMANS was of opinion that the
danger pointed out by the Noble Earl was more ap-
parent than real. He (the Earl of St. Germans) would call
the attention of the Noble Earl to the conclusion of the first
clause of the present Bill, which provided that the Commis-
sioners in their award (whether the repayments were made in
single payments or by instalments), should make their estimate
so as not to exceed the increased value of the land so drained.
It was quite clear, therefore, by this proviso that the Commis-
sioners were bound to regulate the repayments so as not to go
beyond the increased value of the land so improved. He
submitted that this met the objection which was urged.
The tenant for life was not the only individual interested in
the lease, the remainder-man was also to be considered. They
were interposing perhaps executors or civil engineers, but were
they to judge what effect the drainage of such and such lands
would produce? Would these officers protect the interests of those
who were absent? Supposing, for instance, that an estate
were mortgaged to nearly its full value, would not the indi-
vidual who held that mortgage, and who mainly depended
upon the stability of the returns from that estate, have a right
to be consulted in this matter? He thought the Noble Earl
might easily introduce the provisions that had been already
introduced in the Public Works Bill, for the principle of both
Bills was the same, although the operation of them (if this
Bill were passed in its present shape) would be very different.
If his suggestions were not acceded to he should feel it his
duty to take the sense of the House upon the subject.
The Earl of WICKLOW hoped that no impediment would
be thrown in the way of carrying out these Bills. He was
afraid that the provisions the Noble Lord sought to intro-
duce would have the effect of preventing these Bills being
efficiently carried out. He begged to remind the Noble Lord,
that there was a great distinction between the measure before
the House and the Public Works Bill. There was in the lat-
ter case some doubt of the works which they might be engaged
in being to the advancement of the individual in possession,
whereas no reasonable doubt could be entertained that the
drainage of any land would. be to the good of the tenant, as
well as advantageous to the remainder-man.
Lord CAMPBELL had no doubt that the Noble Earl had
framed these Bills with the very best intention, but he ought
to remember that he could not calculate with any certainty on
any measure of success in the objects of the Bill. Some un-
fortunate difficulties might arise which would completely over-
throw his calculation, and therefore he considered that the
provision suggested by his Noble and Learned Friend should
be introduced into the Bill.
The Earl of ST. GERMANS freely admitted the propriety
of some of the remarks made by the Noble Lord, but there was
a very important difference between the two cases. In the
one case, an indivi Ilia' proprietor only was
concerned, but in the present case there was a num-
ber of proprietors. By the former Bills the
dissent of two-thirds of the proprietors was required,
but by the present Bill only one-half was required. The opera-
tion of the present Bill would extend over a space of many
miles, and the charge would be on the drained lands. The
former Bill was of very limited extent, and the charge was
made on the whole estate. As he had already remarked, the
present Bill was only an amendment on the law already in
existence.
Lord COTTENHAM did not object to that part of the Bill
which related to drainage ; what he objected to was the 37t1.
clause.
After a few observations from Earl St. GERMANS,
which were inaudible in the gallery, it was agreed to entertain
the consideration of the clause on the third reading. -
FISHERIES (IRELAND) BILL.
Earl ST. GERMANS moved the third reading of the
Fisheries (Ireland) Bill, which was agreed te.
Their Lordships then adjourned till Monday next.

c onwursoca..
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
The formal points of this Bill having been gone through, the further
proceedings were postponed till twelve o'clock on Monday.
SIIILOPSIIIRE UNION RAILWAYS AND
CANAL (SUILDWIEMUILY AND errArronm).
Mr. Pratt, jun., conduced the case for the promoters.
The Bill was unopposed, and the formal proofs having been given,
the Committee declared that the standing orders had been
plied with.
The Committee then adJounted till twelve o'clock on Monday.

Sub -Committee No. 2.
EDINBITItGIt, GLASGOW, AND DITIVIBAIL-,
-- TONSNIRE.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)und
Private Bill-office plan, fo
ttleoenhwavaisnigfoitnestplestealteidiedll.la P
that T h
tehCe °finil 1 lengi at
There was a similar allegation with respect to section described as
4, which was not sustained.
It was alleged that there was a discrepancy between the plans with
reference to the datum line.
Mr. My, engineer, was examined in support of this allegation,
which the Committee found to be sustained in the case of the line to
the dyeworks.
There was a similar allegation of inaccuracy with respect to the
distances on the same section, which was sustained.
It was alleged that on the plan deposited in the office of the clerk
of the peace there was an omission of the section marked L on the
plan deposited in the Private Bill-office, which was sustained.
The next allegation was to the same effect, but was abandoned,
the Committee not considering it sufficiently specific.
The next class of allegations had reference to the levels.
It was alleged that at one part of the line, namely 231, there WU
an error of seven feet.
The CHAIRMAN, after hearing some evidence pro and con.,
said that the Committee were of opinion that they
should not give any decision on this point until the notes of the par-
ties employed to check the line were produced.
Mr. VENABLES objected to the production of them, and some dis-
cussion ensued, which ended in the Committee deciding that the pro-
moters should produce so much of their notes as had reference to
the portion of the line in question to be argued before the Com-
mittee.
Mr. Venables agreed to this, and the consideration of this allega-
tion was postponed.
It was also alleged that at the several places there was an inac-
curacy in the plans deposited with the clerks of the peace for the
counties through which the line was to pass, which was sustained.
There was another allegation of a similar character, which the
Committee considered not to be sufficiently specific.
The next class of allegations was, that there had been a non-
compliance with the standing orders, the necessary notices not having
been served in various instances.
It was alleged that the notice had been served on the petitioner
with respect to No. 32 in the parish of nbarton, and No. 237, in
the parish of Cardrop,, which were to bentersected by the proposed
railroad.
The Committee considered the allegation was not sustained.
Thee was another allegation to the same effect, which was sustained.
The Committee then adjourned, shortly after four o'clock, till
waive o'cl9ClC oil Monday.

Sub-Committee No. 3.
This Committee resumed its sittings at the usual hour this morn-
ing, Mr. Aglionby in the chair.
WELSII MIDLAND.
The consideration of this case was resumed, and the Committee,
finding that the plans deposited, on the 30th of November, with the
clerks of the pc au; were so full of defects as to render theme lmost
useless, the promoters of the Bill, who were represented by
Bax-
ter, determined upon abandoning them altogether.
The Committee therefore proceeded to take evidence in favour of
the plans deposited on the 31st of December, and the whole of the
day was occupied with this description of testimony.
Mr. uaKE was allewed to appear for the original petitioners
Il
against the scheme, namely, the Earl of Jersey and the Corporation
of Worcester, and assisted by Mr. S. Hughes, the engineer on behalf of
the petitioners, he succeeded in proving to the Committee that there
were omissions and defects even in the plans alleged to have been ex-
amined and checked by Mr. Sidney Hall, who personally laid out the
lisle, and deposited on the 31st of December.
The case had nut terminated when the Committee adjourned.

Sub-committee No. 5.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
FURNESS AND WINDERMERE.
The object of the promoters of this line is to extend the Kendal and
Windermere Railway to Furness, a distance of 17 miles 6 furßsngs,
the estimated amount being 252,0001., and the amount of the sub-
scription contract 193.540/.
The Parliamentary agent is Mr. Ellicombe, and its formation was
opposed by Mr. Pritt on behalf of James Maekhill and William
Townley, petitioners against the Bill.
There were a great number of allegations made by the petitioners
that the standing orders were not attended to. The first objection
was that the plan and reference book deposited were not in accordance
with the standing order, as there was no datum point shown.
This objection was overruled.
The next allegation was, that a certain field, marked 500 on the
map, was stated to be 507 in the book of reference.
Mr. ELLicontsz admitted that it was so, but it was only a clerical
error.
Standing order not complied with.
Several allegations were then passed over by Mr. Patrr, until
he came to the following .: that the distances marked in miles
and furlongs on the datum line did not correspond with those marked
on the plan, inasmuch as the crossing of a road, maked 508 :—the
sections, was not shown. In this case a diverging of the proposed
line took place, for the purpose of avoiding the formation of a bridge.
Allegation sustained.
The next objection, that an enclosure No. 214 was not described in
the book of reference, and is within the limits of deviation, was ad-
mitted.
The Speaker was then announced to be at prayers, and the Com-
mittee adjourned the further hearing of the case until twelve o'clock
next Monday.

Sub-Committee No. 6.
This Committee resumed its sittings at two o'clock this day ;
present, Captain Jones (in the chair), lidr. Deedes, and others.
WEST LONDON IMPROVEMENT AND EX-
TENSION.
This case had been adjourned from Wednesday, and after some
customary proof had been handed in, it was again postponed for the
production of Maher documents. We gave the particulars of this
line some days ago.

TAT'. YALE.
This was also a postponed case from Wednesday, when we gave
the object of the Bill, &C.
Standing orders complied with.
WORCESTER AND PORT DYNI.I.AEN.
This was also an adjourned case.
In consequence of the absence of some witnesses, the decision
was postponed until they were forthcoming.
S 017TH WALES RAILWAY (NO. II).
There being some doubt whether this case did not properly belong
to Sir J. Y. Buller's Committee, it stood adjourned.
The Committee then adjourned until 12 o'clock on Monday.

STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEES.
(Continued fromH our AOUSEfternoon
LORDS Edition of yesterday.)
OF .
THE MIDLAND GREAT WESTERN.—MULLINGAIt TO
GAL WAY.
The Committee reported that several cases of non-compliance
were established, some of which they allowed to be cured by the
abandonment of a branch line to the dock of Galway.
They also reported that the standing orders had not been complied
with in the case of lands belenging to Mr. Dudley Pearse, near Bal.
linasloe, the effect of which will be to confine the extension of the
line to that town.
The capital of the line is 770,9001., and its length is about 87 miles.
This decision renders the line as a mode of communication be-
tween Dublin and Galway a mere nullity.
The case occupied the whole day, and the Committee adjourned
at four o'clock to Monday next.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
STOCKPORT IMPROVEMENT.
In this case also we were not able tollearn the decision of the Com-
mittee in consequence of the non-attendant• of the agents.
IMPORTANT DECISION.

WEST RIDING UNION RAILWAY.
The Committee heard at some length the statements of the pro-
moters (who were represented by Mr. Darbyliire, the soliciter to the
Bill) and the counter-statements •( the opponents (who were
represented by Mr. Shrubsoe, of the firm of Dyson and Hall).
The point to which the Committee confined their inquiries was the
effect which the error in the printing of the votes had
caused upon the pecuniary affairs of the company as relating
to the value of the shares, and the disappointment it had occasioned
to the public, and especially to the parties interested in the success
of the Bill resident is the West Riding of Yorkshire. After consider-
able discussion the Committee decided that the standing orders ought
not to be dispensed with.
GREAT GRIMSBY AND SIIEFFIELT) RAILWAY.
In this case the Committee decided that the standing orders should
be dispensed with, on the promoters giving a new datum line from
some snore permanent point, to the satisfaction of the Committee.
Dyson and Co., agents; Toub er, engineer.

John Wright, scrivener, Tamworth, Staffordshire, March
14, and April 18, at eleven, at the Birmingham District
Court. Bittlestone, official assignee, Birmingham ; Thorne-
will, Burton-upon -Trent ; Collis, Birmingham.
Issachar Roberts, grocer, Mold, Flintshire, March 13 and
April 17, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court Turner,
official assignee, Liverpool ; Edwards and Co., New Palace-
yard ; Ingleby, Mold.
Henry John Barker, miller, Flixton, Lancashire, March
13 and April 3, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court.
Hobson, official assignee, Manchester Johnson, Son, and
Weatherall, Temple ; Ilitchcock, Buckley, and Tidswell,
Manchester.
Thcmas Parnell, laccrnan, Manchester, March 16 and
April 1, at twelv at the Manchester District Court. Pott,
official assi,nre, Manchester; Gregory and Co., Bedford-row ;
Whitsvertl'is, Manchester.
George Perry, Stroud, Gloucestershire, coach-builder,
March 12, at twelve, and April 10, at eleven, at the Bristol
District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol ; Brisley,
Pancras-lane, London ; Paris, Stroud.
Joseph Metford, wine merchant, Bath, March 13 and
April 10, at twelve, at the Bristol District Court. Acratnan,
official assignee, Bristol ; Bishop, Lincoln's Inn-fields;
Lovibend and Co., Bridgwater.
John Godfrey, linen-draper, Midsomer Norton, Somerset-
shire, March 13 and April 10, at one, at the Bristol District
Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol ; Govett, Upper North-
place, Gray's Inn-road.
Samuel Evans, cotton•spin ner, Black rod, Lancashire, March
11, and April 6, at twelve, at the Manchester District
Court. Fraser, official assignee, Manchester; Gregory,
Faulkner, Gregory, and Skirrow, Bedford-row ; Hitchcock,
Buckley, and •Tidswell, Manchester.
John Brock, innkeeper, Liverpool, March 13 and April 14,
at eleven, at the Liverpool istrict Court. Mon, official
assignee, Liverpool ; Pocock, Norfolk-street, Strad; Cunnah,
Chester.
James Corrall, shipowner, Boston, Lincolnshire, March 13
and April 14, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court.
Christie, ofti,i4l assignee, Birmingham ; Hartley, Boston;
Jabet, Iliriningha

MARKET INTELLIG ENCE

(From the London New Price Current of Feb. 27.)
Scoaa.—To-day there was no public sale of any kind of
Sugar admissible for home consumption. West India was
sparingly dealt in for all purposes, although there were
sellers upon rather lower terms.
REFINED.—To-day the home trade were induced to pur-
chase refined goods with more freedom, in consequence o
62s to 62s 6d being taken for standard, and 61s to 61s 6(1 fe
brown grocery lumps.
lAuarrzys.—Tliere has been little desire manifested to
purchase yellow descriptions, and the supply having COl-
sist@tl principally of such, a decline in the aloe of
of 6dhav pee
r
cwt has taken place ; brown and grey sorts, hr,
been in fair request, and brought prices that averaged those
of this day we :k.
EAST INDlA.—Although importers of Bengal have been
desirous to realize, and submitted to a reduction on former
prices of 6d for white, and 6d to Is per cwt fur yellow and
brown kinds, still buyers have been cautious in their pro-
ceedings.
bloLassr.e.—West India cannot be obtained upon lower
terms, the quantity on show being small ; but there are still
few buyers to be met with.
TEA.—The moderate rates that exist for Congou have
tempted the trade to take many parcels. Poucbong has
been sold to a fair extent. Ti% ankay is wanted, and price(
rule tirm. In Hyson several purchases have been made. In
Imperial and Gunpowder a fair amount of business has been
transacted upon former terms. For other sorts of Tea the
demand is on the increa,e generally.
FOREIGN.—To•day Foreign Sugar met with little atten-
tion ; at public sale 486 boxes of white Ilavannah were
offered,--the sound was all taken in at 3s to 6s per cwt.
under late nominal rates.
COFFRE.—This afternoon Mocha Coffee met with little
attention, and went at a decline on former rates of is to 2s.
COCOA.—West India is not offered at any further decline
in prices, but there has been little desire manifested to operate.
SPICES.—To-day the market was much better supplied
with Nutmegs; the demand was less active, and sold upon
rather lower terms. Mace is little wanted, and went at
easier rates.
SPIRITS —Since our last report an extensive business has
been transacted in Calcutta Ram, but holders have been
unable to obtain any advance in prices. Leeward Island
has been sparingly dealt in. For Demerara previous prices
aret insisted upon. Jamaica is not offered upon lower
liemnatibutnthe home and export demand has been again
eneverredhyelhaaws
ibtehefinrpmunreceher
eenddwisith
wanted.cauti Ftohrisßwrieteiekh,
abnudt theG demand is price is
still
" 6d
Corn Spirits the per gallon net cash,
ed.
17
uGndineris9h3e4lda for 8s
pertlteß cldceesnmt.land has been limited. Bgsa9lldonfo; for 22
This afternoon at public salel 194 bags Penang Rice
under proof,
14s Gd, and damaged at
were sold, but at easier prices;
rather brukeno Bengal grain went at 14s yellowish white, but
6d to 13s.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Fa. 27

- - -
The Smixas took the Chair at a few minutes before Four.
NEW MEMBER.

The Marquis of WO:cxs.ralt took the oaths and his seat for
,he county of Gloucester, in the room of Mr. CMAATKILIe.
SECOND READINGS.

The following Bills wore read a second tinsel, and wart
ordered to be committed.
Middleton Gu.
Ellesmere and Chester Canal (Money Bill).
Wilsontown, Morningside, and Coltness Railway (Caledoniat
Junction).
Wilsontown, Morningside, aid Colinas, Railway (Bathgatt
Branch).
York New Waterworks.
Dundee and Perth Railway Amendment.
Clyde Dock and Harbour.
Fleetwood, Preston, and West Riding Junction Railway.
Ipswich and Bury St. Edmund's Railway (Norwich Ex
tension).
London and York Railway.
Huddersfield and Manchester Railway and Canal (Bradford

Branches).
Sheffield, Ashton-ender-Lyna, and Manchester Railway

(Barnsley Branch).
Sheffield, Ashton-under-Lyne, and Manchester Railway
( Dukinfield, Worsborough, and Glossop Branches, and Shet•
field Station Enlargement.)
Bristol and Exeter Railway (Crewkerne Branch).
Maldon, Witham, and Braintree Railway.
London and South Essex Railway.
Waveney Valley and Great Yarmouth Railway.
Boston Waterworks.
Liverpool Docks.
Great Grimsby and Sheffield Junction Railway Extensior
(No. 1.)
Great Grimsby and Sheffield Junction Railway Extensor.

PRICE OF SUGAR.
The average price of Brown or Muscovarlo Sugar, the
produce of the British possessions in America, computed
from the return/4 made in the week ending Feb. 24, 1846, is
245. 2d. per cwt.
rDiviaends, &e., in our next.]

BANK OF ENGLAND.
(From last Night's Gazette.)
An Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria, nap. 32, for
the Week ending ou Saturday, the 21st day of February, 1846.
ISSUE DRYAD:WENT.
Notes issited•

(No. 3).
Bristol Waterworks.
London and Blackwall Railway (Widening).
Harwich and Eastern Counties Junction Railway and Pier.
London and Birmingham Railway (Camden and Euston Sla.

... 26,973,255

Government debt ..
Other accnritlea • ...
Gold coin and bullion

1,015,100
2,984,900
11,346,110
1,627,1'25

Silver bttllion .. :

tions Enlargement).
Rugby and Stamford Railway.
Shropshire Union Railways and Canal (Newtown to Crowe).
Tenby, Saundersfoot, and South Wales Railway.
Lord CLIVE having moved the second reading of the
Shropshire Union Railways and Canal (Chester and Wolver
hampton Line) Bill,
Mr. THORNELY opposed the second reading, and pro-
posed as an amendment that the Bill be read a second time that
day six months. The object of the proposed railway was to
shut up the canal from the ironmasters in the neighbourhood
of Wolverhempton, so that the trade would be greatly inconve-
nienced if the railway were allowed to be constructed.
Mr. LOCH briefly opposed the amendment, on the grour.!.
that the trade of the ironmasters would be benefited rathoi
than injured by the proposed railway.
After a few words in reply from Lord CLIVE,
Mr. THORNELY consented to withdraw his amendment.
The amendment was accordingly withdrawn, and the Bile
was Committee
tuirt.bbae dyißnaagß second
Mr. ESTCOURT moved that it be an instruction toth
eos rite
er
Lnt
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nmsrdheeoesf
neffia
are
Sheffield
and
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naDyn
the
doi rrekc
btR LincolnshireLac
Railway
nwedafoynt hi
3aoni
jdi
Bills, u ln:
oco trtirt
Chairman of Ways and Means, and to two other Membe:•s
rispectively.— Agreed to.
Mr. GRINSIITCH presented a petition signed by 10.0(5
pf the inhabitant; of Maeclesfleld, in favour of alO hours'ili:
l
mr. DUNCAN presCenOteßdNa petition from Dundee, in favors.
wilte)lhfc:tlysagnenerldldweiltchltit:oi ee and ordered to be committed.
whose name we could not learn, pro
of the measure then before the House.
An a numerous body of the land oect.
op;iiitiAolnElsligisnEeade
by
dtlist the withdrawal of proteation.
a petition against any altersliot
in presented
appeal to the country.
Mr. HUME presented a petition front Stonehenge fevov)
the
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31,A.R511A.LL, chief 2:m6'911;2755
Dated the 26th day of February, 1846.

2,5,973,235

rEP)

A ANYING

Proprietors' capital. 14,•553,001
Rest ••• • • • ... •.• • • 3,477,016
Puttiu deposits (in-
cluding Exchequer,
Commissioners of
National Debt, Sax-
ings-banks, and Di-
vidend accounts).. 6,202,903
Other deposits
Seven day and other
bills• • • •

Government securi-
ties (including Dead
Weight Annuity) • • 13,137,047
Other securities •• . 2,39,192
Sotes ••••• • • • • ..... 6,RA7,g 10
Gold and silver coin • • 674,472

[ADVBRTISIIMENT.] RINGWORM
SICIN DISNAiiI, EPIECTUALLY CUR.EnIi AND OTIIIIR
PILLS AND OitcruENT.—Mrs. Grace More, 11""AY's
-, No. 6,
Hem-
lock-cOurt, Carey
four London, has a little girl, whoffour years WM dreadfully disfigured with ringworm ;,1-"t
every surgeou uf celebrity had been consulted as well as everytis
remedy for such cases trieo in vain, when the father of the
child, who is a lavt-writar, was rocominended to try Hollo..
way's celebrated medicinal, which effectually cured the chid in
three weeks, No scrofulous, sores, blotches, pimp Tel, or
scorbutio humoUrs Ma resist the power of these far7famed
remedies. Sold by 114 medicine vendors, and at profetior
Holloway's Establishment, 244, SOO, London.
"Peers and Parvenus " possesses a charlo not always
to be ftlund in the lively but sarcastic pages of Mrs. Gore.
The characters are M intorestino 4 thU Story is amusing.
ile
The attention of the reader is insensibly led
one of th eon te A Staremat
though not unnatural surprise, which is
potent arts of novel writing. London and the country,
Brighton,
fashionable society.
Naples, afford a succession of lively sketches
in its moral, and on
that But the great merit of the book lies
n account it deserves high recora-
I meuds►tion.

918,252

X43,242,i21
i. MARSILILL, Chief Ca3hkw'•
1846.

X 43,242,321

Dated the 20tk day of efobrueiry:

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TII.E SITNI LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 2B, 1846.

The LORD ADVOCA .TE presented a petition from
Lanarkshire to the same effeoet.
FROST, WILI ..lAMS, AND JONES.
Mr. FERRAND presooted two petitions from Keathley and
Knaresborongh, praying for the liberation of Frost, Williams,

He thought the Honourable Member for Durham was
tho last man to stand up in that Houre and
attack Hon. Members for making statements which were un-
founded. Was the Hon. Member aware that within the last
few days meetings had been held in Lancashire to rebut state-
ments he had lately made in that House ?—and not only to
rebut them, but to assert to the world that they were entirely
without foundation? Ho should defend himseif in the man-
ner he had done before, and he hoped he should justify himself
before the House, and after imparting to the House certain in-
formation, he should leave it for the Hoase to say whether they
eould ever afterwards place any senidence in the statements of
the Hon. Member for Durham. He held in his hand al ex.,
tract from the Bolton Chronicle, which was published by the
Hon. and Learned Member opposite. The extract was headed
" Mr. John Bright's Veracity Meeting." He mast state to
the House that the Hen. Member for Darham, on the intro-
duction of Lord Ashley's Factory Bill, made certain state-
ments which reflected-on the people of Preston and Rochdale,
and these meetings were convened by the people themselves
to consider the statements which the Hon. Member had made.
The people of Preston had done their duty, and so had the
town of Rochdale.—(Protectionist cheers.) The Hon. Mem-
ber was proceeding to read extracts from the Bolton Chronicle,

and Jones.
Mr. T. S. DUNCOMBE•moved that the petition of William
Scott, chairman of a pub.iic meeting of the inhabitants of
Dundee, complaining of tJae illegal treatment and imprison-
ment of six factory girls (presented last night), be printed
with the votes.—Agreed
THE CASH OF BRIAN SEERY.
Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL said he had been teemed by a
morning paper of having given notice of a motion and then
withdrawn it, bemuse be was ashamed to persist in it. Now
the truth was, that he bad never dine anything in that House
of which he had reason to be ashamed. He slid not withdraw
his motion for any such reason as had been imputed to him
by the paper in question. The feats of the case were these :--
He had given notice of a motion to obtain the names of the
people who had composed that deputation. In the coarse of
that notice he had made use of a very strong expression, to which
his attention had been recently drawn, and he believed that in
the use of that term he had, to a certain extent, com-
mitted a breach of the rules of the House. He deeply
regretted the use of the expression on that account, and he
thought that it was his duty to apologise to the House for this
breach of the respect to which the House was entitled. But
yet at the same time he was bound • assert that he
had been wrongfully accused by the morning papers in question.
Sir R. H. INGLIS could not help thinking that the erders
of the House bad been violated, and that this statement of
the Hon. Gentleman was anything bat satisfactory, and that
something more was required of him than a mere
apology to the House—( Hear, and cheers)—when he limited
his regret to the House for the use of such an expression as
committed a violence
on the intelligence of seeiety at large. The Hon. Gen-
that of the "blood hound deputation." he
tleman had expressed regret for the use of this expres-
sion of the "blood-hound deputation ;" and he felt it was
only consistent that some larger apology should be made. He
found with some surprise the expression contained in the votes
with u hieh he had been furnished; that the words were clearly
out of order was shown by the circumstance of the sheet having
been cancelled; and he thought, therefore, that there was
something due to society at large, and he wished that the
Hon. Gentleman would only express his regret with the same
frankness to society at large as he had done for this breach of
the orders et the House.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL—Sir, I have expressed my regret for
the use of that expression to the House ; but I beg to inform
the Honourable Baronet that I used that expression in the
discharge of my duty to society at large, and therefore I feel it
unnecessary to suppress it.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir R. H. INGLIS—I think, Sir—
Th. SPEAKER—The Hon. Baronet is clearly ont of
order.
Sir R. H. INGLIS—Then there is no help for it.—
( Laughter. )
And thus the subject dropped.
PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill•pused through Committee, and was reported.
THE MILITIA.
On the question that the Hence at its rising do adjourn to
Monday next,
Mr. R. YORKE wished to ask the Right Hon. the Seeretary
at War when it was the intention of the Government to bring
forward any measure respecting the enrollment of the militia ?
Mr. S. HERBERT said it was impossible for him to give
an answer at present. He would, however, do so at as early a
period as possible.
THE VACANT SEATS ON THE TREASURY

when
The SPEAKER said that the Hon. Member could not
read any extract which referred to the debates in the House.
Mr. FERRAND—This is an account of proceedings which
took place in Lancashire, and which I may, perhaps, read to
the House?
The SPEAKER—No.
Mr. FERRAND—Very well; then he would do his utmost
to leave out every thing which referred to the debates.—
(Laughter.) He would merely allude to what took place at
those two meetings. The paper went on to say that Rochdale
had also raised its voice, and, on the Monday evening previous,
one of the most crowded meetings that had ever been held
there tuck place in the People's Institution, chiefly to disprove
the statements made by Mr. Bright. That Hon. Gentleman
had said that the people of Rochdale were un!avourable to the
Ten Hears' Bill. The meeting was called for eight o'clock,
but long before that time the spacious hall, which was the
largestroom in the town, was crowded to suffocation, and hun-
dreds were compelled to go away, as they were not able to ob-
tain admission. Mr. John Whittaker, the High Constable of
Rochdale, presided, and it was a remarkable fact that the pro-
ceedings were conducted by factory workers. There were
present a large number of factory girls, who appeared to take
great interest in the proceedings.--( Laughter. ) The Chair-
man briefly opened the proceedings, and said that the requisi-
tion which had been presented to him was of sufficient import-
ance to justify him in calling that meeting. The whole meet-
ing declared by their cheers and their resolutions
that they were in favour of the Ten Hours' Bill.
—( Hear, hear.) Mr. Bright had been invited to
attend that' meeting to make good his stateraents, but he did
not make his appearance. The meeting pronounced the state-
ments of Mr. Bright to be (he dare not make use of the word
in that House)—lies.—( Laughter.) Now, then, that was the
result of the meeting of the operatives of the town of Rochdale
—a town at which the Hon. Member resided when he was at
home.—(Laughter.) Ye (Mr Ferrand thought it would be
well for the Hon Member for Durham if in future he took care
how he attacked either himself or any other Hon. Member of
that House.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. and Learned Member
for Bolton (Dr. Bowring) was pre sent in the House last even-
ing, and in his (Mr. Ferrand's) absence he stated that he
(Mr. Ferrand) had said that the factory workers were naked,
and that their dwellings were of the roost wretched description.
He would ask the Hon. and Learned Member whether he had
made that statement ? Did the Hon. and Learned Member
mean to say that he used those words ?
Dr. BOWRING—Go on.
Mr. FERRAND —Then he begged to state that he never
uttered one word of the kind. The Hon. and Learned Mem-
ber had therefore stood up in that House in his (Mr. Fer-
rand's) absence, and had put words into his mouth which he had
never used—(Loud cheers)—for the purpose of injuring him
in the opinion of that House and of the country.—(Cheers.)
Now, he asked if this was fair, manly, or honourable conduct?
—( Hear, hear.) He was prepared to fight the battle of poli-
tics, which he espoused, but he would not make a single charge
which he did not solemnly believed to be true, and he
was not prepared to stand by. Would tke House listen
to the words he did make use of ? He said that Mr. Ashworth
complained in a letter to the Poor-law Commissioners that
wages had risen 10 per eent., and he asked the Poor-law Com-
missioners to send some agricultural labourers to his mill. A
Committee was inquiring at the time into their conditim.
He called upon the Hon. Member for Bolton (Dr. Bow-
ring) to deny the statement—to set aside all consideration of
their former friendship—that it was proved on this Commit-
tee that the labourers surrounding the mill were living upon
2 d. a day; and, more than this, it was proved that many of
them had not wern a shirt for five years ; that they had no fur-
' niture, no clothes,' no chairs, no tables—a single tea-chest
served for a table and drawers.—(" Hear" from the protec •
tionists. ) He made these statements upon the evidence of a
Mr. Maegill, a large manufacturer at Manchester, who stated
on the tth of June, in the year 1844, before a Committee ap-
pointed by this House, in answer to a question put to him on
the nature of the food of the labourers, that the chief portion of
their food was oatmeal porridge, potatoes, and a small quantity
of butcher meat, which they might perhaps obtain once a week.
With reference to the amount of earnings, he stated that they
could not earn more than 2id. a day; and as to their clothing,
he could not recollect a single case where any weaver ever bought
a new jacket for years. lie had known some of them who hid
no blankets, and whose only covering was a coarse covering
which originally cost 2s. 6d. With reference to furniture, he
stated that he observed many of their houses without a chair,
without a stool, the only article of furniture being a tea-chest,
which served for the purposes of a table and drawers. Having
made this statement, he would now call upon the Honourable
Member to repeat the statements he had made, or, if he had
the feeling of a gentleman, to retract them.—( Hear.) As to
the Noble Lord, the Member for Yorkshire, he (Mr. Ferranti)
felt assured that the Noble Lord would shrink with horror
from making any statement to this House that he did not be-
lieve to be true; bat, at the same time, he was aware that the
Noble Lord had made statements which he (Mr. Ferrand)
could satisfy him were not founded in fact. He could tell the
House that he was aware that there were many men who, to
his knowledge, were employed in factories, and had been com-
pelled to sign petitions in favour of the corn-laws.—( Hear,
hear.) And he would say it was now high time for this House
to take cognisance of the manner in which petitions to the House
were manufactured and; were paid for by the League.—
( Hear, hear.) And this he was prepared to prove before a
a Committee of this House.—(Hear, hear.) He had heard
of some cases in which men were actually paid for procuring
names, and one man had been paid for procuring 1,400 names
—( Hear, hear )_and if any man said ":No" to his statement, he
should challenge him to demand a Committee, and he would
prove this statement. He now held in his hand a letter from
a man employed in a mill near Leeds, who was ready to prove
the manner in which names were procured for these petitions.
He would hand the letter to the Hon. Member opposite, but
he should request of him not to disclose his name, as it might
iujure him. He (Mr. Ferrand) thought he had now satin.
fled the House of the injustice of the charges that had been
made against him ; and if any others should be made, he would
be able to meet them also.
Mr. C. BERKELEY said he roseimerely for the purpose of
saying a few words on the subject of the manufacturing pe-
titions to which the Honourable Member had alluded.—( Hear. )
lie had himself received a petition for presentation to that
House on Wednesday last, containing 954 signatures. The
petition purported to be that of the inhabitants of Cheltenham,
praying for a repeal of the corn-laws. After perusing the
petition, his attention was drawn to the fact that it bore the
;Manchester post-mark instead of the Cheltenham.—(Loud
cries of " Hear, hear," from the protectionist side of the
House.) This made him suspect that all was not as it should
be, and he accordingly wrote to his agent at Cheltenham, stat-
ing his suspicions, and requesting him to make an inquiry.
He also wrote to the four gentlemen whose names appeared
on the top of the petition, one of whom was a Mr. Stephen
Ree. New he (the Hon. Member) had received a commu-
aication from that gentleman to the effect that there was only
one of that name in Cheltenham, and he begged to assure him
that he had never signed such a petition, nor had he autho-
rised any one to sign it for him.—( Loud cheers from the pro-
tectionists.) The next letter which he had to submit to the
House was from his agent. That gentleman informed him that
several of the names to the petition were genuine, so far as
the persons residing in Cheltemhane were concerned, but that
not one of them, upon whom he had called, had authorised
their names to be attached to the petition.—( Hear.) One
of the gentlemen, whose name appeared to the petition
informed him that he had never signed it, nor had
he been consulted about it, although, if he had
been asked to sign a petition for a repeal
of the corn-laws, he would have had no objection to sign such
a petition.—(Loud and protracted cries of " Hear, hear," from
the protectionists.) This he ( Mr. Craven Berkeley) thought
a most improper proceeding, for it would appear that the pe-
tition had never been seen at Cheltenham at all, but had been
got up at Manchester, and sent direct to London.—( Cries of
" Hear, hear," from the pro-corn-law party.) During the
whole time he had had the honour of a seat in that House lie
had been in the habit of voting for free-trade measures but
he would scorn to support any measure, or any system, by such
means as the present.—( Loud cheers from the protectionists.)
If free trade could not stand upon its own merits, then, indeed,
did it not deserve the support of Hon. Members.—( Loud
cheers and protracted cries of " Hear; hear.") Now, looking
at the case he had just brought before the House, he
begged to give notice that, on Monday, he would call the
attention of the House to the conduct of the parties who had
imposed on the Legislature by forging a petition, and so de-
ceiving the House, which was a gross breach of privilege.
He claimed the support of the members of the Anti-Corn •
law League in endeavouring to trace out the author of this
; forgery, for if he did not receive assistance at their hands he
maintained that the obloquy which would naturally attach
itself to the author of this petition would also fall upon them.
The Hon. Gentleman then sat down, but rose again upon
cries of " Read the prayer of the petition." He read the
prayer, which was for a repeal of the corn-laws.
Mr. BRIGHT—The Hon. Member for Cheltenham has
done what he could to corroborate the statement of the Hon.
Member for Knaresborough. I believe there is no Member of
this House who will net believe that this case ought to receive
the fullest investigation. I should recommend the Hon.
Gentleman to move for a Committee to inquit e into it, and I
should be glad to second it. I would assist him or any other
Member in making the fullest investigation into the case he
had now laid before the House. The Hon. Member for
Knaresborough, in endeavouring to answer the attack which
he says I made upon him last night, has merely restated
what he said the night before, giving up a letter which he had
had some two years since in his pocket, as a proof that his state-
ment was correct. Now, lam prepared to ,say still that I be-
lieve every portion of his statement is utterly unfounded.
I have here a letter from Mr. Rawson, whose name the
lion. Gentleman mentioned as having formed one of the deputa-
tion of the Board of Trade, respecting the duty on starch. He
says—" Mr. Wilson did not issue the circular requesting the
starck-makers to assemble in Manchester. Mr. Wilson did
not act as chairman." Now this repliesto the two statements
made by the Hon. Member. " Nor did any meeting of the
sort take place, and no deputation proceeded from such a meet-
ing, either of the individual members of the council of the
League, or any other gentleman. It is true that two other
gentlemen and myself—Mr. Wilson was not of the number—
, proceeded to Loudon, our object being, however, not to seek
protection." They stated to the Beard of Trade, "if we are
' allowed to use the raw material, wheat, free of duty, we do not
desire any protective duty on the article of starch ; or, if this is
declined, we then ark for an equivalent duty to be levied on
wheat or flour." The next extract which I shall read is from a
memorial to the Board of Trade, which states, " That our ob-
ject in seeking a remission of these protective duties is this—
that with the free trade in wheat we should not be afraid of
foreign competition—( Hear, hear)—except when the raw ma-
terial is kept up in price by the operation of the corn-laws."
The proposed small duty of 51. per cent. on foreign-made
starch threatened to destroy their trade, and gave them no
hope with the foreign manufacturer.—( Hear, hoar.) From
the speeches which we have heard from the Hon. Member and
others, I dare say it is possible it will not be understood.—
(Cheers and laughter.) The Hon. Member is not able to see
that 1 wish a duty on the foreign article to counterbalance the
duty on the raw material of which that article is made in this
country ; its manufacturers derive much hardship, inasmuch as
the protective duty materially injures their trade.—(Hear,
hear.) But the Hon. Member's statement—and he has
repeated it—was this : that Mr. Wilson convened a meeting
of starch manufacturers, in order to memorialise the Govern-
ment. I say distinctly and positively that that statement is
wholly without foundation, and that it is no more true than
the abet statements which the Hon. Member persiatc

BENCH.
Colonel SIBTHORP said that, seeing the First Lord
of the Treasury in his place, be would put a question to him.
He would not complain of, any want of courtesy, for to
that he was perfectly indifferent. He, however, represented a
constituency who had sent him to discharge a duty, and on that
account he rose to put the question with which he should conclude.
He took the liberty last night, seeing the Treasury benches in
a situation which be bad not seen for twenty years before, and
which he hoped he might never see again—(Laughter)—
that very important offices remained without their repre-
sentatives in that Home, particularly the offices of
the Secretary for the Colonies (Mr. Gladstone), and
the Secreary for Ireland (the Earl of Lincoln), a most im-
portant office, when the present condition of Ireland was
considered. Not seeing those gentlemen filling any situation
in the present session of Parliament—(Great laughter)—he
thought it his duty to ask the Right Honourable Baronet
(Sir Robeat Peel), whether there was a fair and early
opportunity of seeing any of those Hon. Gentlemen,
or all of them in their respective situations, to which, how-
ever, (as we understood) he had received no reply. He now
wished to repeat the question—Was there a probability of an
doportunity being afforded to Members of that House of wit-
nessing an early appearance of these gentlemen or any of
them in their place in that House—(Continued laughter.)—
in order that Honourable Members might be
enabled to put important questions to them
which came within the province of their department ?
(Laughter.) But if the Right Hon. Baronet refused to
answer these questions he (Colonel Sibthorp) could not help
it ; at any rate he would have the satisfaction of having dis-
charged his duty to his constituency.—(The Gallant Member
sat down amidst roars of laughter from both sides of the
House.)
Sir ROBERT PEEL hoped that neither the Gallant Officer
or any other Member of the House had any just ground for
blaming him for want ef courtesy.—(Loud cheers from both
sides of the House.) Certainly in replying to any question
connected with the public service, he could not charge
himself with that want of courtesy which the Gal-
lant Member seemed to attribute to hire.—(H ear . )
But he (Sir Robert Peel) appealed to the House whether the
Gallant Officer concluded his speech last night with putting
the question which be had just addressed to him—(Cheers and
laughter)—or by saying he should put it this evening? He
(Sir Robert Peel) protested against Hon. Members
making long speeches on the question of the adjourn-
ment of the debate.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") In this
he agreed with the Hon. Member for Northamptonshire (Mr.
S. O'Brien) who deprecated, as he did, the practice of occu-
pying the time of the House by irrelevent remarks in putting
questions to the Government ; however, it appeared to him (Sir
R. Peel) that it was natural to the Gallant Officer to use
vituperative language in addressing the House, possibly,
perhaps, because be believed his independence was in danger.—
(" Hear, hear," from Colonel Sibthorp, and loud laughter.)
The Honourable Gentleman said he would ask a question of
the Right Honourable Baronet (Sir R. Peel)—When he ex-
pected that the vacancies which had taken place in public
offices would be filled up? and Iv was prepared to
say that the only office vacant was that of Com-
missioners of Woods and Forests. There were two
other gentlemen, Members of the Treasury, who had signified
to him their intention of tendering their resignations ;. but
those offices were not actually vacant, because these Gentle-
men in question consented to hold them until
some opportunity offered of filling them up.—(Loud
laughter.) He confessed it was a very inconvenient thiug
to have public officers, requiring seats in that House, withent
them.—(Laughter.) Bat be was sure the public service
would not sustain any injury in consequence. The Honourable
Gentleman asked him a very unusual question, to say when the
Secretary of the Lord-Lieutenant in Ireland would be in his
place. Now he (Sir Robert Peel) with great respect begged to
say that he was not responsible for his absence, and that he
thought the Secretary could best answer that question himself.
The Gallant Officer complained that the Secretary for the Cole-
nies wasnot in the House, and he( Sir R. Peel) should givehim
the same answer as he did respecting the other vacancies, that
that Gentleman could best answer why he was net there.—'
(Renewed laughter.) But this he would say, that one of the
main reasons that they were not there was, that he had such a
confidence in the wisdom and policy of the measures submitted
by her Majesty's Government, and such a confidence in the
calm deliberation of that House, that he was content to forego
that advantage which in ordinary times the Crewn possessed.
Mr. FEARAND begged that the kind indulgence ef the
House would be afforded to him whilst he defended himself
from the personal attacks of no less than four Members upon
he opposite side of the House, made upon the last night of
debate. Had he received any intimation of their intention, he
should certainly have been in his place, but unfortunately a
particular engagement had prevented him. He had to thank
the Hon. Baronet sitting under him for his kindness in de-
defending him against those unmanly attacks. And he con-
sidered that the Hon. Memher for Bath should have been the
last person in that House who ought to have made
use of the following expression :—" I am quite
sure, if the House intends in any way to command
iTh respect,o oari,
a n d Hon. e
cirtloiie
rnmsmnbeoentrd
et bdh yr
He permittingwon.the
Times
Members
to horsewhip a
newspaper
upon the
gentle-
man who was his superior in every respect. The Hon. Mem-
ber also asked whether that gentleman was worthy of regard,
when he expressed an opinion? He should measure that re-
mark by the ordinary test applied to the Hon. Member's own
profession. Would any person give a guinea, a half guinea,
half a crown, or even half a farthing for the Hen. Member's
opinion on a gentleman's conduct? The public had that value
for the opinion of the Hon. and Learned Member, that they
would not give the half of a half-farthing for his opinion, and
that was one of the sore points that rankles in his breast. He
(Mr. Ferrand) would not continue to allude any further to the
Hon. Member, but would pass on to an attack made upon him
by the Hen. Member for Durham, who bad spoken to the effect
that " he would take the liberty of saying that almost every
portion of the speech of the Hon. Member for Knaresboraugh,
with respect to the meeting of starch manufacturers,was incorrect,
as Mr. Wilson never called a meeting of the starch manufacturers.
Mr. Wilson never presided at such a meeting, and such
a deputation as he described never waited on Sir Robert Peel."
The Hon. Member had put words into his ( Mr. Ferrand's)
mouth which he never used. He never said that a part of
the meeting was formed into a deputation to wait upon the
Government. What he said was, that the chairman of the
Anti-Corn-law League called a meeting of all the starch manu-
facturers at Manchester, and a resolution was passed at that
meeting that a deputation should wait upon the Right Hon.
Baronet on the subject of the duty on starch. The deputation
did go, and now lobsters and starch were the only two
things that had the slightest mercy in the tariff. He never
said that Mr. Wilson was one of the deputation
that waited on the Right Honourable Baronet, and
he would now proceed to justify the statement he made to the
House. On the 9th of February, 11143, he received a letter to
the following effect :—" I take the liberty of tumbling you
with a few particulars which will show the sort of disinterested
reformers some of the members of the Anti-Cern-law League
are. You will, perhaps, take the trouble of satisfying yourself
of the correctness of the statement before you make any public use
of it." He (Mr. Ferrand) did satisfy himself es to the
correctness of the statements, and the first public use he made
of the letter was on Tuesday last. The writer went on to say
that when Sir R. Peel in his new tariff put starch at Si. per
cwt. after it had been at 9/. per cwt., 111 r. Wilson took the
chair at a meeting of the starch manufacturers, for the purpose
of taking off the duty on native starch and putting a prohibi-
tory duty of 25 per cent. on foreign starch. They
.succeeded
in doubling the duty, as a deputation from the meeting waited
on the Board of Trade. The writer concluded by stating that
it might be inferred from his letter that he was not a free-
trader, but the inference) would be erronecata—he was a free-
trader, but he did not wish in obtaining his object to associate
himself with such free-traders as those he had mentioned. The
writer subscribed himself " Samuel Burlington," and dated his
letter from Manchester, Feb. 19, 1845. In the month et
December he (Mr. Ferrand) was in the town of Man-
chester, and he saw several gentlemen, whom he asked
if that statement was correct. They informed him that
it was entirely so, and added that they believed Mr.
Wilson formed part of the deputation. On the day fol-
lowing he attended a large meeting in the borough of Stock-
port, where he read this communication, and stated that he
had understood Mr. George Wilson formed part of the depu-
tation which went to the Government. The Manchester
Guardian (the paper of the Anti-Corn lawthis Leaguement, e) attac
ked
d
him in a leading article for having made stat
denied positively that Mr. G. Wilson had formed I art of the
deputation. lt, however, admitted that the deputation had
waited upon the Government, and did not deny in the slightest
degree that Mr. G. Wilson convened the meeting, or that the
resolution for sending up the deputation was passed while he
presided ever it. He had that day seen three gentlemen, all
of whom were perfectly
well acquainted with the eircum.
stances of this matter; they had seen the statement he made
on Tuesday night, and they assured him it was perfectly cor-
rect. To that statement, therefore, he was prepared to ads
here, and he should not retract one particle of it until the Hon.
Member for Durham could *wiriness that House that Mr. G.
Wilson did not seamen* and preside at the meeting
which passed the resolution appotntio4 the deputation.

(Cheers.) The Hon. Member has made a very extraordinary
statement with respect to Mr. Wilson—a statement which he
has been afraid to make in a court of justice.
Mr. FRP RAND—No, no.
Mr. BRIGHT—Does the Hon. Member recollect that he
once charged Mr. Wilson and Mr. P.awson, at a meeting held
at Liverpool, which he himself addressed, as bring present at a
meeting at which a proposition was made for committing the
frightfu crime of assassination? Does he recollect that Mr.
Rawson wrote to the solicitors of the Hon. Member to ascer-
tain if he (Mr. Ferrand) was prepared to stand by the state-
ments be had snide. The awn. Member stated that be was
prepay to stand by thaw, as reported is the Morning Post
newspaper. Mr. Rawson's solicitor, Mr. Tolson, of Bradford,
wrote to the Hon. Member's solicitor, stating that it was Mr.
Rawson's intention to !ming an action for defamation, and asking
whether the Hon. Member would give, is addition that the
statement of the Morning Post was the one which he was pre-
' pared to stand by, in order to obviate the inconvenience of pro-
secuting the newspaper, and the Hon. Member intimated that
be would agree to give a guarantee to the proprietor of the
Morning Post to save him harmless from the effect of an
action. When Mr. Wilson and Mr. Rawson wrote to the
Morning Post, the proprietors of that newspaper stated
that they ought not to be prweented because they had merely
reported in their columns the speech of the Hon. Member for
Knaresborough (Mr. Ferrand), and that he had net given
them the guarantee that he had stated.—(Cheers.) Every
particle of that statement was as untrue as anything ever ut-
tered by any Hon. Member, or by any one on the face of the
earth. It would have been preyed untrue in a court of jus-
tice, but the Hon. Member durst not go into it.. With respect
to the charges which the Hon. Member has brought against

•
passed last night and the present fully showed it. This sort of
melo- dramatic malignity—this sort of Sadler's Wells sarcasm,
which was so easily put on—th,s waving of the hand and po
ing with the finger—this looking daggers but using none—
was, to say the least of it, exceedingly improper.--(Laughthea
and cheers.) He should say the proper remedy for suc
matter as that now comulained of—the best course for Hon.
Members to pursue on any question was—not to say anything
that was contrary to gentlemanly courtesy, or that could be
fairly looked upon as offensive—( Cheers).
Mr. O'CONNELL would not hive said one word had the
memory of the Hon. Gentleman not boon inaccurate' and the
public might possibly supply with imagination the dellcieneies
of his memory. He had not been accused of calurnny. H.
said that the system of election committees was one of corrup-
tion and perj 'ry. He had been censured in consequence of
these observations, and the Speaker read him a lecture ori the
subject. As soon as the Speaker had concluded, he (Mr.
O'Connell) repeated the very words which he had made *se of
—(Great laughter)—and the House had since confirmed the
truth of hts remarks, for they abolished that Committee alto-
gether. He was very much obliged to the Hon. Gentleman
for again giving him an opportunity of reiterating those obser-

•ations.
Major BERESFORD denied that he was guilty of cortur_
tion. It was the general feeling of the Committee that he w"
unjustly, unfairly, and acrimoniously attacked.
Mr. B. EsCorr said that he was perfectly justified
the obsetva.tions he had made in the absence of the FOIL

Member for Kborough.
Lord JOHNnares MANNERS said that, so far as he knew; th'
observations which had been made respecting Isle. .Ashwoli•
were by no means correct. He could hear testimony tod
the
admirable manner in which that gentleman had discharge•
was
obligations which his position imposed upon him. No "toity
more fully impressed than he was with the great o
responsio ~
which attached to him as one of the greatest cotton mant
the
turers in the empire, and no one was more fully alive tel'
fulfilment of the duties of his situation. gallery
Mr. FIELDEN (wile was totally inaudible in the te,
for some time) said (as we understood), that the manufacta
had applied to the Poor-law Commissioners to send dots's, t:f
the manufacturing, from the agricultural districts, a nembeeee
labourers for the purpose of equalising the price of
that they (the Poer-law Commissioners) had done so, aolll,_loa to
down 10,000 to the manufacturing districts. If they ("' old
the Commission of Inquiry into these districts, theY lc re,-
find that the statement made by the Hon. Member for gni
borough had not been incorrect. to
Sir ROBERT PEEL said he would net have rise.ies
take part in this discussion had it not been for what had tt`ie,
from the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury. That Hon. Geniikee
labour.
se-treot
man-recalled to the recollection of the House what had t f
place, he believed, about three years since, in the tour Peel)
"
debate that took place at that time, when he (Sir R. brety,
put an erroneous construction upon an expression used, lister,
Hon. Gentleman opposite, the Member for Stockport.--1 re,.
hear.) That Hon. Gentleman having explained his ee"ie.
sions, it was his (Sir R. Peel's) intention at that time t"toill
explanation which he made to the Hon. Member in reel/
relieve him from the imputation which he then put 111)°° eala
_-(Hear, hear.) If any one was present at that time he `'inio,
recollect that he made a complete disavowal of his eslte",eoo
and he would also recollect that he said that if that elelltn.riiest
was not considered to be sufficient, he would take the civet
opportunity of giving an ample apolegy.—( Hear, hear.) , se-
were his (Sir R. Peel's) intentions, and he thought thae esest
ference to the record of the day would show that suehiles,
have been his intentions, and he thought that Ibe bold
Member for Shrewsbury, after the lapse of three yeata'tintioo
not have revived that subject. His (Sir R. Peel's) in n° sele
was entirely to withdraw the expressions which he hot
under an erroneous view. Or'
Mr. R. COBDEN—I feel happy, Sir, at having' ten 00a,
tunity of remarking upon what has fallen from the aig,",e, ye
Baronet. lam sorry to say , that at the time to "",', test
alluded I thought, and I believe the country also thoug';;eish
the Right Hon. Gentleman did not make that disavewa' eitra•
was due to me. Still, Sir, the matter is altogether
eO
lured,
ordinary, and as the words which were uttered by We IPPee
in the opinion of the greater part of the Hon. Geutleolt
as
that side of the House to bear the interpretation Pillueioe4
them by the Right Hon. Baronet, I think I may be e,
for occupying the attention of the House. I will ta Hoes
present disavowal as an ample disavowal by the Right Sir,
Gentleman, and as entirely satisfactory.—( Cheers.) issl 1
am very glad that he has made that complete disavowetetee t 0
think it will be as pleasant to his feelings as it is
that roes
the remembrance of what has passed in this House WO 11410
ling in my own mind, I have alluded in public to the laps'
Hon. Gentleman in terms which I regret after this Ohre bastion.—( Cheers.) I sincerely hope that both 10°0
said and what I have said may be completely obliterated`
that no one may be justified in hereafter alluding to it. had
Mr. HUTT said that, on Tuesday next, hi bad pt
coming under the consideration of the House, and as he ream
wish to retard in the smallest degree the progress of the l'yeio'
most important and protracted debate, he wished t,°...0,00'
formed by the Right Hen. Baronet at the head of the eost'
ment whether it was his wish that the motion should '
coned?
nieer
Sir R. PEEL was understood to ask the Hon. Nelionte,
postpone his motion for the present. If
toeth'eptoln"
would do so it would be a convenience the Co°'
and expedite the dispatch of public business. is flight
Mr. HUrrwould readily consent to the request of t-eoaki
Hon. Baronet, and trusted his example would be ftill"
other Hon. Gentlemen who had motions en the paper' tee a'
Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN said that, as it deb'„
„-
and understanding on both sides of the House that„,t""•
yi 14°:9
should close that evening, he wished to ask the ib ;ea
Baronet the First Lord of the Treasury how he VI, Ill;
arrange the public business for next week ? The Rtgie to
eye
Baronet had a motion on the paper for Monday rellittespi
Indian army, and he presumed that subject would 0e .0
House the whole of Monday night. e of Its
Sir ROBERT PEEL (who spoke in so low a toe 000.0
as to be perfecty inaudible in the gallery), was *ndei'esOnis
impress upon the House that he mild not have done 0010 e. e
than take the earliest opportunity of asking the prittir
award its thanks t• the commanders and men
Indian army, who had lately so distinguished thernselc
fending the rights of this country. He did not, hove °of
cipate that this subject would occupy the attention 00°0
House very lung, and so soon as it was disposed of his o ,tte
proceed to move his resolutions in Committee, CT
following day he should propose to bring foresir"id see tss
branch of his measure. He was sure the House loin' ed 41,0.
necessity of their getting through the measure as Tore
possible, as delays only proved detrimental to nearly
terest in the country. 60'14
It was then agreed that the House at its rising
journ till Monday. if 14. s 4 °
PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) B--' as re
On the motion of Sir J. GRAHAM, this Bill ly
tees,
third time and passed. 01/
Sir R. PEEL, in pursuance of a notice he had &lel 00,0
of thee io
moved that all petitions relating to the timber dutieeron'esn
After a few words from Mr. LIDDELL, the ca43t3 -
and carried. e tlis
THE ADJOURNED DEBATE. „tes
On the order of the day for going into Connn"
Customs' and Corn Importation Acts being reads
~eelPe.t, 5J,.6
Mr. G. BANKES rose and said, that he in on7int ,4
gretted the delay that had taken place Arts'
journed debate, because he concurred in the eenerali s
had been expressed that this debate should corne :001 die
sion that evening, and, as far as he was concerned, tea it • bat
occasion much delay. He would endeavour to fol otottiiiiort
tanee the speech of the Hon. Member for Wolverhat ditr, tbs
he would not imitate him in point of tba.to, ot
which occupied tie large a portion of the see is
House last night. He did not regret that on thtfei. ft(
measure had been forwarded previously to reetitnr"osoin,eli
bate, he meant the measure which made some Pot e'tei4
Ireland, to meet an emergency that had arisen in trees °der;
It was to such measures that they might look in °. bet ins
the emergency. He was glad to find that it I°.-eie,oiLe
stood that they were not discussing an Irish 11"!...' a or ov
great measure, which has been so strangely Inet`", tbe,cl;':l"l:e
attention of the House. He now understood ttis, post et oe,
was not mixes up with the supposed deficiency "'
land, and he was happy to perceive that t'eeti, etioiotio
calmly and fully consider the question and. if I'd be "woe',
should receive the sanction of this House, e'rtntfily btfer,!:
any of those disadvantages which would nec"°- toes °";
the passing a permanent measure ' meet ste te
CO 18 j
emergency. He recollected that ire the Yetr.es the
tress was then greater than anything we'eueetee,eo
stated to exist at this period ; and. when he re° ever ltn
that time there was the greatest glut of corn,ciryet tnestlti,
this country, how could it possibly be sunPn''' he pis °)J
election of corn could by any means remedy t soot;
tress in Ireland? lie did not wish to detain thesed h, Or
Baronet, who he saw was about to leave the H""re' 10,,teie,ret
therefore, postpone the further oiservations J 00000403
upon the state of Ireland for the purpose of aed le lir
marks to that part of the trantactton which had . both'
upon his own mind, and upon the minds of othert; the of fr
out of this House, and -which materially &free ;onatti- eioPief
crisis into which we have been brought by tt'"neosor ost
Right Hon. Baronet, and which had keen 'l°, 600' pir'ho
cedented, and, he had almost said, unconstlit ti
opinion it appeared rather strange that the Rif be (eiel'e,eso
should have adopted such a course as this; °I; 0700
upon this occasion the Right Hon. Baro netseaciontriit'y p'oo'
power and privilege, as Prime Minister of mai!' et eel,
it was most unusual to do, in order to influenee,rhe ttlesstire.
Cabinet to vote with him on this measure. seritna, the stn
Barostet was not then a member of theorer, sos
ri .eel
for he had resigned his place as Prime Alintne si georeet
fore, he acted only as a private individual ahe he° s °el
individual, and not as a Minister of the Cr°"_..llnristioe sochsf
his influence with her 'Majesty in the f": sore °se° test
Cabinet. New he (Mr. Banker) was n° croon , ell
example example being set by any Minister of the dare 0° 0 1." so
former occasion ; and, therefore, though he Ay ell so
such was an unconstitutional course, it certatins et_oje 4,
dent. When the Right Hon. Baronet 01197_t, he t4toe!'s,
,übjecfjpee_tflire,e,led
in this House this session upon this
allusion to this interview with her Majeortung 'lle is; t°
lion the Noble Lord must have had the seerlereige.
,iippot 05
the letter placed in his hands by hi' S°i,ed hiSt the ctl'
that the Right Hon. Baronet had Prntile-seey 0". e 0000
whatever Ministry should take office .toe
laws ns
such
$ first
changes which he had contemplated in the 0 Soso
Now, when the Right Hon. Baronet pr ,otireo, •
it must be looked upon as a great ehet.efreht Hoe,
sacrifice of public principle.
allowed the sense of the country to be is in favors nre ;
question, then, indeed, if the people be
the neear'heol'oe)
Had the 11,:gion upon,
of ies rest
posed change, no one could 0113°'°$ffneered 000,
this opportunity had not been,„_,e, of 14ei'light01001
they had a right to complain.—(
tart th• very
Indeed the change of principles on the
with st,e st )fe.
Baronet was looked upon by the "uciould be I°l' Plertli' hose
eye ; it was not such a condition as Lord id to set"
Fox, and Mr. Burke, took place, it touT_
of eeese•.od woos
other light. When the coalition
.betecrennot bee it it"... tee
been for the purpose of seeking the slec°''.7eoe pure,"lastte
were above such a suspicion. The nrittrivee _ seel4 off
Ministers entitled them, as the repreastee 7.0
niek.'.oeiq eitO
die
had given to the people, or to the co
tn.eee toe ;$O,
o,t,
deter
lived. At any rate, if they were
he celled °opport" :o°ol
stituencies, to call on them not to violate
the measure they bad croeounded,
„vie ferrej !P
solve the Parliament and afford the P He re , ryeclunks
measures.
stituultion tnntl-j-eoecs;
teeters "` est rees
sitting in judgment an their
the e.- eat gr-
letter of Lord John Russell to
staled t mosses,'
London in December, in which
seh_ido3 ten;o, thersol,
questions ought always to be
Hear, teet..) test so;
expressions of the public.—(Bear
arra- whl nocistlfors/_
at a loss now to underst. •,0 had e tree!,
Lord did not carry out the princliplteo "the peokT:r f 0; 01.4
On a former occasion the Noble • iljt_r port
,siesipe
call on the Government tothis
opinions were far from being pnr_°n7isie tr odor; 1,,,P
appeal stated t"
lie stated he had altered his oin few genera 1 Le, •elect
that free-trade principles wer.:_",ese, were.. the neierris
ire eo est eeielt..
But he (Mr. Bank es) denied tt I_eiperese
late
vcsitoto
to the opinions of the country c
ault of the it, sh°4
aeons. Let there look to the
7 (Sir Robere rode
°h aid
de
represented that city .
,here he ld "' 'o'
distance from the Hon. wsn, w_ 0
shoal
foci'.•
which did not reach the gallery.):nion, vreh ;tee
election. Where was the Lordre:f theArsl:l, ern
soo,
.0c!,,!.
between those controverted.
eonrdi • net
_sflesise ;9 sehtr,
vet. toment to undergo that _ _es,mne,
ie,sis
with
_00,..•
enequivocally against them. sore s'
were to; tt
nod tha
many Members of that
that
,Loy. repo,. Akio
them? The country would as ,ea hr
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Mr. FERRAND interrupted the Hon. Member by inquir-
ing why Mr. Wilson and Mr. Rawson did not proceed with
their action?
Mr. BRIGHT—I will state why the prosecution was not
followed. The Anti-Corn-law League appealed to the public
through the means of general discussion.—(Cheers, and cries
of " Oh, oh.") They would scorn, every man of them, to
go into a court of justice against an editor who, in the
fulfilment of a great and meritorious duty to the public in
general, publishes in his columns good and, I must say, bad
speeches also—(Hear, hear)—for he had inserted the
speech of the Honourable Member in which these
unfounded statements were made. The lion. Member
had referred to the condition of the people of the towns of
Rochdale and Bolton, and had intimated his opinion that they
were in a sad and miserable condition. Now, he did not want
any certificate from the Hon. Member for the feeling of the
people of those towns, for the people of Rochdale were well
acquainted with any small merits which he might possess ;
they knew him intimately, and with regard to the Hon. Mem-
her for Knaresborough, he would venture to assert that Roch-
dale was the last place in the county where the Hon. Gentle-
man would be received with cordiality. The Hon. Gentleman
must have some recollection of the reception which he met
with the last time he made his appearance there, and he thought
that the present statement was quite as unfounded as those
which had appeared in the newspaper to which he had refer-
red; and he would go further, and assert, if he might be
allowed to use language which was found upon the journals of
the House, and would say that the statement of the Hon.
Member was calumnious, and absurd, and unfounded altogether.
—( Loud cheers from the League benches.)
Dr. BOWRING thought that he was called upon to say a
few words respecting the statement made the other night by
the Hon. Member for Knaresborough, and they should be a
very few words. The Hon. Gentleman complained that he
had not risen to answer him the moment be had sat down ; the
feet was that he was unable to reply at that time, for he was
not present at the termination of the Hon. Member's speech.
The Hon. Member had, in the course of his observations,
used expressions which intimated that the labouring portion
of the community of Bolton and its immediate neighbourhood
were badly clad, badly fed, and badly housed, aed were con-
tent with any accommodation. In connexion with these
assertions he had used the name of Mr. Henry Ashworth,
and had stated that that gentleman had been the instrument
of introductng a large portion of the inhabitants from the
agricultural population; he had further, in connexion with
this transaction, employed a term in the highest degree
offensive—he had called this a cold-blooded act. Now he
wished to disconnect the name of Mr. Ashworth from any
such term ; and he would take the liberty of referring to the
Noble Lord the Member for Newark (Lord John Manners), who
was intimately acquainted with the condition of the whole
population of the town, and was perfectly compe-
tent to form a correct judgment upon it. Ile
knew the condition of the people who were all dependent
upon him. And he was quite willing to leave the whole
case in the hands of the Noble Lord, and to let the truth of
his statement be tested with that of the Hon. Member.
Mr. ROEBUCK, who was extremely inaudible in the
commencement of his remark, and was understood to observe,
that he considered he was justified by all the rules of that
House in presuming that an Hon. Member, who had occu-
pied the last two hours and a half of the debate, in a very
fierce attack on Hon. Members at that side of the House, and
on persons out of it, would in mere fairness have been .in his
place to hear the answer to be made to his vituperation.—
( Hear, hear.) He would not say ene word of the attack
the Hon. Gentleman had made upon him for his failure in
life. But he would say in all his misfortunes, it had never
been his fate to have a body of gentlemen assembled in
England to declare that which he had stated to have been a false-
hood and a calumny. There was a resolution now remaining
on the books of the House which would descend to posterity—
that a Member of that House had been guilty
of an infamous calumny on two other Members.
—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member said that he founded his
belief on a resolution passed by certain persons in the town of
Rochdale. But he (Mr. Roebuck) believed the resolution of
the House of Commons, which was just to the same effect.—
(Cheers.) The Hon. Member never denied—he had never
answered it ; and as long as it remained on the books of that
House the Hon. Gentleman was welcome to make whatever
statement he wished. He (Mr. Roebuck) was perfectly
satisfied so that such statement was afterwards weighed in the
balance of the good sense of the House. That was his (Mr.
Roebuck's) answer.—(Hear, hear.) One word as regarded
what had been said by the Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Inglis) op-
posite. He stated that he heard him (Mr. Roeisuclo employ
personalities in that House. Why, if he did use them, or if he
made charges against Hon. Gentlemen, he succeeded in
proving them—([dear, hear)—and if such could be termed a
personality, why so could an indictment.—(llear, hear.) He
charged Hen. Members with corrupt practices, and he proved
his charge.—(" No, no," from a Gentleman opposite.) He
appealed to the resolution of the Committee, who, without a
division, fully convicted Hon. Gentlemen, and, amongst the
rest, the Hon. Member who cried " No."—( flear.)
Mr. DISRAELI should say he was one of those who very
much regretted that his Hon. Friend the Member for Knares-
borough should think it his duty to make an attack on mem-
bers of the agricultural body ; and he should say
that he (Mr. Disraeli) differed with the Honour-
able Gentleman in his views on that subject.—( Hear.)
He had often remonstrated with him on the subject; but he
should say this, that his Hon. Friend the Member for Knares-
borough was prepared to say the same outside the walls of that
House that he said within them.—(Hear, hear.) Such was
his Hon. Friend's conviction, and he believed that Le was
merely fulfilling his duty in acting as he did.—(Hear, hear.)
Now, that being the case, he (Mr. Disraeli) could riot see,
from the way in which the Hon. Member for Knaresborough
acted, how he had done anything to call for the marked ex-
pression of disapprobation at the hands of that House.—( Hear,
hear.) Now, with regard to the name of another gentleman,
Mr. George Wilson, chairman of the Ant i- Corn-law League,
he (Mr. Disraeli) had a few words to say. He believed Mr.
Wilson to be a very good sort of person—(Hear)—and, no
doubt, when better known was better liked.—( Hear, and a
laugh). He believed that for a series of years, he was an
agitator, and had expressed his opinions on public men and
measures with little reserve ; and he was surprised that that
gentleman, or his representative., should think fit to show their
thin skin on the present occasion.—( Hear, heac, and a
laugh). Now, as to the resolutions of committees, and
such stories, he (Mr. D'lsraeli) did not want to listen to them,
because he was as prejudiced on one side as his Hon. Friend
was on the other. —( Hear, hear.) As regarded Mr. Ash-
worth, he should say that he knew sufficient of his family to
hear testimony that it was one which was not alone a credit but
an honour to the country.—( Loud cries of " Hear, hear," from
both sides of the House.) Was it desirable that everybody
in that House should be of the opinion, or that Hon. Members
having different prejudices should not express them. He
really however thought that his Hon. Friend the 'Member for
Knaresborough had the best of the argument.—( Cheers.)
He (Mr. Disraeli) deprecated attacks on absent individuals,
who were, perhaps, as worthy men as any in the country.
(Cheers from the Liberals)—but still he thought that his Hon.
Friend had substantiated his position in the view he had
taken.—( Cheers.) The Hon. Member for Durham, for the
city of Durham, had made a confused statement with respect
to an accusation which had been urged against his Hon. Friend
because he bad accused certain Members of the Anti-Corn law
League of being assassins. He would not take it on himself to
decide whether the Members of the Anti-Corn-law League
should have prosecuted his Hon- Friend or the newspapers,
but this he did know, that he had heard the members
of the Anti-Corn-law League accused of being
assassins by a most distinguished individual in that House—
(Tremendous sheering)—who they were very ready to support
on that occasion.—( Continued cheering.) Why not prosecute
the Right Hon. Baronet?—( Laughter and reiterated cheering.)
Why not at once strike at the monarch of the wood, instead of
preying upon the smaller deer ?—( Cheers.) If they wished
to vindicate their characters from the stigma of being assassins,
they could always have ample opportunity, by referring to the
pages of Hansard; and as he had no doubt that the Right Hon.
Gentleman would give a guarantee to his solicitor to defend the
action, they might prosecute him immediately.—( Shouts of
laughter.) He th ought that too much had ueen made by the
Hon. and Learned Member for Bath of a resolution come to by
the House some two years ago, with regard to his Hen Friend.
—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Disraeli) had thought that the
most ridiculous resolution the House had ever arrived at.—
( Hear, hear.) lie believed that the Right Hon. Baronet was
very averse to bringing it before the House. The Right Hon.
Gentleman had himself a natural sense for humour, and he
did all he could to prevent these proceedings.—(Hear, hear.)
He stated that he had no desire to go on, but the whole had
originated in the quarter of the House in which everything
disagreeable always originated, namely, with the Hon. and
Learned Member for Bath. —( Cheers and laughter.) Arid
when the Honourable and Learned Member described,
with that dramatic effect which was so worthy of
a minor theatre—(Rears of laughter)—the horrible
consequences of that resolution (Loud laughter)
and declared that his Hon. Friend had uttered a calumnious
statement, he ought to have looked to the Hon. and Learned
Member for Cork (Mr. O'Connell) who had been placed in a
somewhat similar predicament. He (Mr. Disraeli) was in
the House at the time, and he understood that some statements
of the Hon. atid Learned Member were supposed to calum-
niate certain Members of the. House, and he ( Mr. Disraeli )
believed that he was reproved by the predecessor of the Right
Hon. Geatleman, who tilled the Speaker's chair. He would
not make a, point of that resolution ; he would leave his Hon.
Friend and the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath to deal
with it as they liked.—( Laughter.) But if his Hon. Friend
would only follow his (Mr. Disraeli's) example, never to abuse
any one—( Roars of laughter, which continued for several
seconds)—if he did so, he (Mr. Ferrand) would never be put
in the position in which he had been repeatedly and unjustly
placed.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. and Learned Member for
Bath, who talked so much of gentlemanly proceedings, and
referred to the resolution formerly passed, should apply those
observations and that resolution to his own case. He said that
he never spoke with unnecessary acerbity, or acted in a per-
sonal and unbecoming manner. This was not the fact. It
was not the first time that lie had violated the rules of the
House and offended gentlemanly manners. He (Mr. Disraeli)
knew not of one case, but of repeated instances, in which he
(the lion. and Learned Gentlemen) had accused himself (Mr.
Disraeli) of the moat improper and corrupt motives. Various
have been the occasions on which the Hon. and Learned
Member would immediately get up and impute motives and at-
tribute corrupt intentions to Hon, Members who differed with
him in opinion. Some Hon. Members thus referred to have
noticed these attacks, but he (Mr. Disraeli) never had done so.
Perhaps he ought to have vindioated himself against the Hon.
and Learned Member, but he had never any wish to do so.
He knew that as the tree so must be the fruit.—( Hear hear. )
As a crab tree roust bring forth crab apples, so must a maa
with an acid nature write a thin acid pamphlet or evince aci-
dity and bitterness in his speeches—.(Laughter and cheers.)
But the Hon and Learned Gentleman says that be has new
offended the rules of the House, or imputed improper motives.
This was totally inaccurate. It would be in the recollection of
Hen. Morabors that the contran Ica tins truth, sad what had