The Sun.
London, England, 1833-05-23 00:00:00

nothing about the murder; it was all false I stated.
Mr. GREGORIE—What was your motive for
making such a statement ? Prisoner—lt was
through jealousy, your Worship.
Mr. GREGORIE—That is very extraordinary.
Prisoner—Some time ago three of my children
died, and it preyed on my mind, and one night I
gave myself up for murdering them, when it was all
false, and on another occasion I gave myself up for
a robbery.
Clifton, the police constable, said that he believed
that to be the truth.
Prisoner—Whenever I get rather tipsy, your
Worship, I believe I am light-headed.
Mr. GREGORIE—BUt admitting that you were
rather in liquor, you were sober enough when you
went away in the van in the afternoon, and also
when you desired to see Mr. White a second time,
and you then persisted in your statement ?—Yes,
your Worship, but when I was brought out of the
cell to go into the van, I intended to acknowledge
that all I had said was false ; but I saw my wife
standing amongst the people with another man,
and that determined me to stick to my story. I
never was in any house in Wellesley-street in my life.
Mr. GREGORIE—When you saw the prisoner at
the House of Correction, did he say anything
else to you ? Clifton—Yes, your Worship, lie
asked me if I had taken any other person into cus-
tody, and I told him I had not, when he replied that
he was very glad of it, for he knew nothing of the
murder.

Mr. GREGORIE—You saw him at this office of er
he had made his confession; did he say any thing
about his companions 2---He would not mention
their names, but he gave me the description of two
men, and from that I thought I knew who he meant.
Mr. GREGORIE—You did not apprehend these
men ?--No, your Worship; but I mentioned the
circumstance to Mr. White, and he told me not to
apprehend them at present, but I have kept a strict
watch upon the prisoner's lodging ever since.
Prisoner—l described the men to him just as it
came into my head; any person that I thought of
at the moment.
Mr. GREGORIE—SO, by your own admission,
when you get tipsy you are apt to accuse your ac-
quaintances of being murderers.
Prisoner—All I know about the murder are the
accounts I read in the newspapers; it has brought
me in,o a very awkward situation, arid I will take
care never to read a newspaper again as long as
I live.

Mr. LENTHALL desired Clifton to state every
thing that the prisoner said when he gave himself
up to him for one of the murderers.
Clifton recapitulated the statement he made last
week, when witness replied that he did not believe
him ; the prisoner said, " You may believe me, and
if you do not take me, I will give myself up to
another police constable. Witness asked him what
sort of a place the kitchen was where he said he and
his companions had concealed themselves for two
hour•, and he described it. He said that as you
entered on the left hand there was a cupboard, and
it was rather large, and that there was also a pump
in the kitchen.
Mr. GREGORIE—YOU did not mention this cir-
cumstance at the first examination ? Clifton—
I did not, your Worship; I did not think
of it at the moment, and at that time I knew
nothing about the house, never having been
in it ; but in the evening after the examination I
went to the house in Wellesley-street ; there were
some persons in the kitchen. I was surprised
when I entered, and said, " This man must cer-
tainly know something about the murder, for his
description of the kitchen exactly corresponds with
his statement."
Mr. LENTIIALL—Was the kitchen, then, as the
prisoner described it to be ? Clifton—lt was.
There was the cupboard, sure enough, and the pump.
Mr. GREGORIE—HOW was it that you did not
mention this circumstance before ? Clifton—l did
not think it of much importance at the time, and I
had not examined the house when the prisoner was
first examined.
Mr. GREGORIE said that it was very important
evidence, and he found himself bound to detain the
prisoner.
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Prisoner—Your Worship, I don't recollect having
said anything about a pump or a cupboard being in
the kitchen. I might have said so, certainly; but I
do not recollect it. I know nothing about the
murder. If you will send to my lodgings you will
find people who will prove where I was on Thurs-
day, the 2,1 of May, all the evening.
Mr. GREGORIE—HOW was it you described your
companions to Clifton P—l had my reasons for that.
Mr. GREGORIE—A man is generally believed
when he speaks against himself, and you were per -
fectly sober when you left this office in the van.
Clifton—When he described his companions to
me in the cell of this office, I mentioned the name
of a man, and asked him if he was one, when the
priFoner replied, " Oh, no, be knows nothing at all
about it.
Hughes, the constable, Paid that as the prisoner
was being brought into the office, his mother, who
was in attendance, spoke to him, when he said to
her, " Don't ask any questions, I will make it all
right when I get before the Magistrates."
Mr. LENTIIALL—If you are innocent, you have
only to thank yourself for the trouble you are in.
Prisoner—l know that, your 'Worship.
Mr. GREGORIE asked him if he had any objection
to state where he was on Thursday, the 2d of May ?
The prisoner replied that since he had been in pri-
son he had been considering, and could state cor-
rectly where he had been. He went home between
5 and 6 o'clock in the afternoon, his wife was at
home, and they bad their tea. He afterwards went
down stairs into the room of a man named Simpson,
a coal-heaver; the father and mother of his wife
were there, they had some gin, and the old man and
his wife quarrelled, and had a fight, the wife got a
black eye, and he afterwards went to a butcher's
shop in the Broadway, and got a pennyworth of beef
to put upon her eye. The old man afterwards went
away to his son-in-law's, John Birch, in New To-
thill-street, he was rather in liquor, and had some
money about him, and he (the prisoner) went after
him about 10 o'clock, brought him home, arid as-
sisted to undress him; he then went to bed.
Mr. GREGORIE directed the prisoner to be put
back for a short time, and ordered Clifton to go and
bring some of the witnesses mentioned by the pri-
soner, but not to say a single word to them.
In a short time Clifton came back, and the
prisoner's witnesses were brought in singly. The
first was Rosanna Haleward, a womaa who coha-
bits with the prisoner, but whom he calls his wife.
In answer to questions by Mr. Gregorie she said
that on Thursday, the 2d of May, her husband (the
prisoner) went out in the morning, and came home
about two or three o'clock in the afternoon, and
that he never went out again until the Monday
following.
Mr. GREGORIE—What, was he sick that he did
not go out Witness—No, Sir.
Are you positive about the time that he came
home ?—I am positive of it. I will take my oath
it was not later.
Mr. LENTIIALL—Are you sure he did not go out
for a piece of beef that evening ? Witness—l
am positive he did not. He went out the next
morning to the butcher's, and brought home two
pounds of beef-steaks.
Prisoner—Did I not go after your father the same
evening ?

Mr. LENTIIALL—Stop, stop, this is one of your
own witnesses.
The witness said there certainly was a quarrel,
and that she and the prisoner went to John Birch's,
about 11 o'clock at night, to bring him home.
John Birch was next examined—He stated that
Knight, the old mall alluded to, came to his house,
either on the 2d or 3d of May, he could not recol-
lect which. He remembered the prisoner coming
after him. His wife came in afterwards.
Mr. GREGORIE—What o'clock was this ?
ness—Between two and three o'clock in the after-
noon.

Mr. LENTHALL---YOU are positive it was not
dark ? Witness--,I am positive.