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London, England, 1848-07-28 00:00:00

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The SOLICITOR-GENERAL appealed to the Com-
mittee whether such personal discussions were consi-tent
with the dignity of the House or the furtherance of pub-
lic business. He hoped that the Hon. Member for
Youghal would withdraw his amendment.
Mr. ANSTEY must say, befora he replied to that ap-
peal, that the Hon. Gentleman had not answered his
question.
The CHAIRMAN put it to the Committee whether
it accorded with the dictates of propriety or di.cietien
that they should allow such discussions as this ?
In answer to a question from Mr. PACKE,
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the provi-
sions of the Bill could only apply to those cases in which
this House sat in Committee on Election Committees.
Mr. ANSTEY said that he would press his amend-
ment.
The galleries were then cleared; and on our re-ad-
mission we found that no division had taken place, the
Hon. Gentleman having withdrawn iris amendment.
• Al ter some verbal amendments the clause was agreed to.
On the second clause being preposed,
Col. SIBTHORP said that be would move that the
clause be omitted as entirely unconstitutional.
After a few words from the SoLicuoit-GENERAL and
Mr. HENLEY,
Mr. GODSON objected to the clause.
Sir D. L. EVANS supported it.
Mr. T. HOBHOUSE thought that the clause violated
the principle of English law, which declared that a man
ought; not to be called on to give evidence against him-
self. Tho clause would convert every Member into an
informer against his own constituents.
The SOLIC:TOR-GENERAL said a few words in
explanation.
Mr. C. BERKELIY was so far opposed lto the view
taken of the clause by his Hon. Friend the Member for
Lincoln as to be quite ready, and even desirous, to be
examined as to the practice at 11:5 own election, his bo-
rough being one that was impugneti.
Mr. MANGLES thought that a MeTaber who gave
evidence of corruption amongst his cone!ituents was
serving them and doing his duty by his country.
Mr. PACKE supported the amendment for striking
out the clause.
Mr. HENLEY moved the omission of words from the
clause, the effect of which would be to exempt the sit-
ting Member or Members, any candidate or candidates,
' or their agents, from examination before the Committee.
Mr. R. PALMER said, that as the law stood a man
might be constitutionally examined, even in his own
case, if he were indemnified.
Mr. BANKES thought that there should be an in-
demnity for constituencies as well as for Members.
Mr, C. BERKELEY said, that if corrupt practices
prevailed in Cheltenham, he would be happy to be the
person to disclose them.
Sir D. L. EVANS thought that the amendment went
too far in including agents.
Mr. R. PALMER- did not think the amendment
would effect the object contemplated by his Hon. Friend.
After a few words from Mr. HENLEY,
The Committee divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment 22
Against it lOB
Majority - 88
Mr. BANKES said that by the Bill an alternative
was allowed to Committees of delegating their power to
a commission, who were to be lawyers of three years'
standing, and to such delegation he should object. The
majority in that House might use such a power for party
purposes. He had voted for the second reading of the
Bill, but if this part of it was not altered he would vote
against the third reading. He moved that the words
relating to commissioners be omitted.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL hoped the House
would not adopt the amendment. The object of having
commissioners was to save expense and delay by ena-
bling the inquiries to be made upon the spot.
Colonel SIBTHORP said that was not the real rea-
son. The real reason for the commission was to secure
patronage for the Government.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said the judges were
to appoint.
Colonel SIBTHORP—Ay, in one sense, but don't
toll me there won't be a Downing-street nomination.
Mr. URQUHART opposed a commission, on the
ground that the House ought not in any way to surren-
der its prerogative.
Mr. ANSTEY, amidst groans and cries of "Divide,"
moved that the Committee report progress.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL expressed his hope
that the Hon. and Learned Member would not press his
motion, at least until the clause under discussion was
disposed of.
Mr. ANSTEY persisted in his:motion, and complained
that the Hon. and Learned Member for Salford never
moved the adjournment of the House when it interfered
with the Government business.—(" He's gone to Good-
wood."--Laughter.)
Col. SIBTHORP seconded the motion, mainly on
account of the absence of the Noble Lord the Member
for the city of London, who was most probably enjoy-
ing a Ministerial fish dinner, instead of looking after
the interests of his immaculate constituency.
The Committee divided, when there appeared—
For the motion 2
Against it

Majority —lls
Mr. HENLEY suggested to the Hon. and Learned
Solicitor-General whether it would not be better to re-
port progress, seeing that the clause under discussion
involved a principle which would require much con-
sideration, and that the House had already sat twelve
hours.—(Hear, hear.)
The SOLICITOR •GENERAL was anxious to finish
the clause, after which he was willing to accede to the
wishes of Hon. Members and report progress.
Mr. URQUHART said that he had sat there for
twelve hours without having had an opportunity of get-
ting anything to eat.—(Laughter and cries of " Oh.")
Gentlemen who had only come in at a late hour, and
who had spent the day in gratifying their carnal appe-
tites, might cry " Oh"—(Loud laughter and cries of
" Oh")—but that should not prevent his supporting
the motion of the Hon. Member for Oxfordshire.—

(Loud cries of " Question" and " Divide.") He trusted
they would get' another day and another occasion to
discuss this clause, which, in fact, contained the vital
principles of the Bill.
After a few words from Mr. WAWN,

Mr. BANKES moved that the debate be adjourned.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL hoped that the Hon.
Member would not persist in his motion. The Com-
mittee was quite prepared to hear with the attention
they deserved any observations he might have to make.
Mr. BANKES said there were many other Hon. Mem-
bers who had observations to make, and who were not
present. He must therefore persist in his motion for ad-
journment.
After an observation from Mr. MANGLES,
Mr. HENLEY entreated the House to let the Bill stop
for the night.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL hoped that, when the
Bill next came on, the lion. Members opposite would
not prevent the House from going at once into Commit-
tee on it.
The Chairman then reported progress, and the House
resunakol.
DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH ROME BILL.
Mr. ANSTEY asked whether this Bill would be
brought on on Monday ?
Lord PALMERSTON would state on Monday when
he would bring it on.
MILITIA ESTIMATES.
On the motion of Mr. F. MAULE, a Select Committee
was appointed to prepare these estimates.
PUBLIC HEALTII BILL.

In reply to Mr. SPOONER,
Lord MORPETH said, he proposed to have this Bill
reprinted, with the Lords' amendments, before the House
was called on to consider those amendments, and an
order for reprinting th© Bill was made, the amendments
to be considered on Thursday next.

NEW BILLS.
Bills were ordered to be brought in, on the motion of
Mr. G. HAMILTON, for consolidating and amending
several of the laws relating to attorneys and solicitors
in Ireland;

Sir W. SOMERVILLE—for the protection and im-
provemPnt of the salmon, trout, and other inland fishe-
iies in Ireland;
Mr. C. LEWIS—to continue an Act to amend the
laws relating to loan societies; and
Mr. PARKER—to authorise the application of part
of the unclaimed money in the Court for the Relief of
Insolvent Debtors in enlarging the court-house of the
said court.

The House adjourned at Quarter past Two o'clock.

HIGHLAND STOCKINGS and THE

ART OF KNITTING

It is gratifying to learn that the unremitting efforts
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and more successful. The Gairloch stockings
well known, and the demand for them is increasing
now
every day. Nothing can be finer than the beautevreafaull
e
colours, the neatness of the patterns, and the
; and there
beauty
of
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work. It is difficult for the uninitiated to conceive howeof
well the various colours can be blended
be some secret in Gairloch in this matter. We musthaye
seen patterns of hose in imitation of heather, at once
curious and pretty, and admirably adapted for the kilt,
especially when worn upon the mull's. The trade is now
principally, if not entirely, managed by Mr. Macdougall,
of the Tartan Warehouse, Inverness, who will no doubt
ably second the benevolent lady who has done, and is
doing so much for the tenantry on that estate. Another
description of stockings and socks are sent to the
same establishment, manufactured at Tobermory,
under the inspection of a lady engaged by the Glasgow
section of the central board. The Tobermory stockings
aro of plain colours, but the wool is soft and delicate,
and the workmanship so good, that they actually rival
the far-famed articles knit by the Shetlanders. In Skye
great exertions are making, as our readers know,. to en-
courage the knitting trade, and the exertions of Captain
Fishbourne and the Edinburgh section of the central
board deserve to be seconded by the public. Specimens
of Skye knitting, and stockings made in Fear's and other
parishes of Ross shire, under the relief operations, can
also be seen at the Tartan warehouse, the entrance to
which, by the way, has been vastly improved. While
speaking of home manufactures—and various reasons
suggest themselves why preference should be given to
them—we may mention that the manufacture of plaids
for the tartan warehouse has given employment during
the winter and spring to not a few of the poor people,
half weavers, half crofters; and that others in various
parts of the country have had congenial employment in
the fabrication of strong and curiously carved snuff-
boxes and other useful and fancy articles in wood.

DON'T TOUCH MT DOG.—The Sheriff of Aberdeen
lately gave an award of 81. damages and expenses
against a farmer for shooting a neighbour's watch-dog.
The sheriff stated that it was illegal for any one tv
shoot a watch-dog, even although it had committed a
trespass.