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The Committee then divided on the clause, when there
appeared—
For the clause s 6l
Against it
Majority • —62
On the fifth clause relative to the abolition of the
punishment of death in cases of attempts to murder being
proposed,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL rose and spoke in so low a
tone of voice as to be very indistinctly heard in the gallery.
The Noble Lord was understood to say that in the cases
under consideration, he did not think there was that re-
luctance to convict that had been represented. He would
oppose the clause.
Mr. F. KELLY said that the Noble Lord had fre-
quently stated in that Houte that the infliction of punish-
ment was not intended merely as such according
to the moral criminality, but its 'abject was to
deter men from the commission of offences. That
was a eentiment which he (Mr. F. Kelly) and
several Hon. Members expressed their approval of,
and he therefore now contended that while the punishment
of death was retained for the crime of murder, a sufficient
check was held out to those who attempted to commit that
crime, because ex vi termini they expected and intended to
commit murder when they attempted it; but in continuing
the punishment in cases of attempt to murder, they went
against that which was the acknowledged principle in those
cases. They took away every inducement not to complete
the crime when the first attempt to perpetrate It was un-
successful. Certainty of punishment was what deterred
most from the commission of crime, but certainty was not
attained in the present state of the law. He was aware of
instances having occurred of ten convictions and only one
punishment, and out of forty-five indictments that ha•l
been set on foot for crimes of this nature within the last
three years, there had been only three convictions.
Lord DUNGANNON thought that if they passed this
clause they might as well at once abolish the punishment
of death altogether, and be could not admit the assertion
that the punishment of death tended to conciliate the
sympathies of the public in favour of the criminal was suf-
fici sit to justify that abolition.
Mr. MILNE supported the clause.
Sir H. R. ING LIS opposed the clause, on the ground
that the person who att •mpted to murder was morally as
guilty as if ho succeeded in the cAnpletion of the crime.
Mr. LAW (the Recorder of London), in his experience,
which was of home extent, had not found that juries were
in the habit of viola,ing their oaths rafter than find per-
sons guilty of a caeitel offence. He had, on the other
hand, observed that when the facts of the case applied
rather to the minor offence, it was generally by the inter
position of the Judges a verdict to that effect was re-
corded. He was convinced that the introduction of the
clause would diminish the efficiency of the law in pre-
venting crime.
Mr. B ROT H E RTO N, not ithstanding whet had been
said by the Hen. and Learned Gentleman who had just
sat down, thought the ()fret of the I es was punishment and
not prevention. He was satisfied that the nearer the laws
a;proached to the principles of Christianity the mere 121
fee:IVC they would be, and the more society was civilised
the more opposed would it be to capital punishment..-....
(Hear.) He did not believe that, according to the Chris-
tian religion, man had the right to take away the life
of a human bci,g under the authority of any law. The
denunciation, that " Whoso sheddeth man's blood by man
shall his blood be shed," epplied as much to the execu••
tioner as to the criminal. He blieved that the introduc-

Lion of a milder system of criminal law would do more than
anything else to mitigate the manners of the people, and
to diminish ferocious crimes.

He had been requested to act as arbitrator between the
two parties, and be had consented to do so. The Bill be-
fore the House would take the matter out of their hands.
The Hon. Member then referred to the history of the
claims to compensation. He had taken the highest legal
opinions that they came within the spirit and letter of the
Corporations Act. They had stated that it was doubtful
whether it was necessary to have these clauses inserted in
this Bill—whether the parties might not rest their claims
upon the compensation clauses of the Act. On this subject
he was particularly anxious, in consequence of the public
notice that had been called to the course he intended to
pursue, to set himself right with the Hon. Member for
Manchester, having been told that he was meddling
' improperly with the affairs of Manchester. The Hon.
Member bele proceeded to read an extract of a letter
from three members of the corporation of Manchester, to
show that he was justified in the course he adopted, and
proceeded to say that the document he quoted corroborated
the statement he had made. He was also fully convinced
of the justice of the three cases he had brought forward.
Mr. MARK PHILIPS said, that he stated in his
place that he was not one of those who thought that the
Hoe. Member brought forward the question on unneces-
sary grounds. He tucrefore begged to disclaim any par-
ticipation in the feelings of those who said that the Hon.
Member meddled improperly with the affairs of Manches-
ter. On the contrary, he thought that the course she
Hon. Member adopted was perfectly fair.—( Hear, hear.)
What he (Mr. M. Philips) complained of was, that
there were communications made to the Hon. Member
subsequently which he would have done well not to listen
to. With regard to the opinion of the people of Manchester
it had been put on record in the most unequivocal man-
ner. He ( Mr. M. Philips) had presented petitions from
every ward in the borough, which requited from public
meetings rt'ended by men of all partici. One of the
strongest petitions was itself presented by a gentleman of
Conservative principles. When the mask had been strip-
ped off and the thing appeared in its nakedness, he had
almost said its deformity, they were sought to be bought
off. He could not point out anything more deserving the
character of fraud than the manner in which the petition
had been got up by the anti-corporators. He must say
that he thought the inhabitants of Manchester would be
lost to every feeling of honour if they were to consent
to pay the sum of money demanded of them.
If 50,000 of the ratepayers of Manchester could so `ter for-
get themselves as to put a petition into his hara,lis praying
the House to consent to these clauses, he mould net pre-
sent. such a petition. During his recent suit to Manches-
ter he had consulted with men of all orti oi on the sub-
ject, and there was not a single individual who did net de-
precate the idea of the istroduef Jn of ouch a clause as a
mode of adjusting the existing differences. Manchester
would rather remain as it was than submit to such an in-
sult. It was an insult to the inhabitants of Manchester to
compelled to petiaion the House on such a subject.
With re-ersnce to ane appointment , it was evident from
the expreisiens 'ae had made use if that his Hon. Friend
hxd been in close communication with one of the indisedusls
whose interests e ere at strike. His Hon. Friend had said that
he did not consider the Quarter Sessions of Manchester
worth a rush, and that was the very expression which Mr.
Milne had frequently been in the hebit of using. With
reference to that gentleman's claim to compensation there
could be no doubt that if a new stipendiary Magistrate
were appointed for Manchester to-morrow, that new Ma-
gistrate would have a perfect right to appoint his own
clerk. He had looked into a Bill which had been intro-

duced into the HOUEC at the time when is was first proposed
to appoint a stipendiary - Magistrate to Manchester.
that Bill, which bad been drawn up by Mr. Milne, he

Lord MAHON said that there would be a practica
difficulty if the clause were enacted, which would embar.
racy the administration of the law.

orawn up by
had attempted to have himself appointed and named per-
petual clerk to the Magistrates; had that Bill paned into
a law, he might have had come claim, but the name had

Mr. Sf. ANEY thought flat a distinction should be
made between crimes perpetrated for the sake of gain, and
crimes perpetrated through violent and revengeful motives.
In the first ease the fear of death had comparatively little
influence, while it operated most powerfully in the second
instance.

been withdrawn, and the appcintment was left to be mule
in the way in which all such appointments ought to be
made. He bad, therefore, no claim wl atever to a !Fe-
interest in the appointment. With reference to the At-
torney-General's Bill, if it were thrown out, the only effee'
would be that the rate-payers of Manchester would escar

Alter a fe:v words from Mr. ELLIOT, the House
divided when the numbers were—
For the clause .
Against the clause
Majority against the clause 8
The clause was then struck out.
On the next clause being put,
Lord J. RUSSELL objected to the clause. He did
think that the punishment of death acted as a powerful
preventative against burglary: and shp that account he
wished that the punishment should be retained.

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from the charge of the maintenance of the prisoners in
their borough gaol, which would be thrown on the
county; but they were too honest and too honour-
able to wish for such an advantage, but that would be
the only effect of the Bill being rejected. With respect to
the office of coroner, he believed that if the gentleman in
question had signiSel his wish to continue in that appoint.
ment the corporation would have chosen him, but be had
chosen to act under bad advice, and must take the con-
sequences, and by persisting in hslil!ng doubt* inquests
he bad made the office of caterer, as connected with him-

Mr. F. KELLY supported the clause. The fewer
the cases in which the punishment of death was retained,
the more effectual would that punishment become.
Mr. E WART also spoke in favour of the clause. Dur-
ing the last three years no ease of capital punishment for
burglary had been enforced, and the present law on the
subject had, in consequence, been inoperative and unne-
cessary.

self, particularly obnoxious to the people of Manchester.
Let them consider the danger of the principle they would
be adopting by granting this compensation to the Town-
clerk. Atter the decision of the Judgcs in their favour,
the people of Manchester were not to be bullied into a
compromise of this sort, and he should be a►hamed to ap.
pear before his constituents if he consented to the intro-
duction of any such clauses as those proposed. Ii could

Lord DUNGANNON was opposed to the clause. He
did not approve of that philanthropy which was extended
to the most desperate offenders at the expense of the com-
munity at large.
Mr. HUME thought that severity in criminal legisla-
tion so far from putting an end to crime only tended to its
increase. It was not from a false philanthropy be advo-
cated a mitigation in the criminal code, but from a sense of
the general good. All experience had shown that by les-
sening the punishments crimes had decreased ; and, there-
fore, he supported the clause.

assure his Hon. Friend that be was labouring under a
great mistike if be imagined that the corporation of Man-
chester were at ail anxious for a compromise. On ttli,t
point he could assure his Hon. Friend that he had been
misinformed.
Mr. GREG said that ho had taken up the Twitter at
the instance of Magistrates of Manchester, who called on
him at his home to induce him to do so.
Mr. M. PHILIPS said that those persons had no
authority from the Corporation, to make any request of
the kind.

Mr. P. HOWARD said unless the Attorney-General
consented to make some other alteration is the law he
would feel it his duty to vote for the clause of the
_Hon.
Member for Ipswich. Unless the extreme punishment was
removed from burglary without attempt to murder the
greater crime would be committed.
After a few words from Sir R. INGLIS, strangers
were ordered to .withdraw. The House then divided, when
there appeared—
For•
the clause 73
Against it lOO
Majority against the clause.— --27
Oa our return we found
Mr. KELLY saying that, opposed as be was by the
whole weight of the Government, be would not attempt
t 3 carry the Bill further. He hoped the Noble Lord
would proceed with his Bill; and although not prepared
to go the serve length as him ( Mr. Kelly), would consent
to a considerable amelioration of the present system.
After a few words from Mr. AG L lONBY,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that if the Hon. Gentle.
man declined to proceed with his Bile, of course there could
be no objection to that course. Ile (Lord J. Russell) in-
tended to proceed with the Bills which he had brought
before the House.—( Hear, hear.) It would have been
indifferent to him whether those Bills were proceeded
with or the Bill of the Hon. Gentleman, without the various
clauses to which be objected. But as the Hon. Gentleman
had intimated his intention of withdrawing his Bill, he
(Lord J. Russell) would lose no time in bringing his Bills
before the House.
After a few words from Sir R. INGLIS,
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and asked leave to sit
again this day fortnight.
CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL.
On the motion of the ATTORNEY-GENERAL, the
House went into Committee on the Criminal Justice Bill.
Mr. M. PHILIPS presented a petition from the
Mayor, Aldermen, and Burgesses of Manchester against
the clauses proposed to be introduced by the Hon. Mem.
ber for North Lancashire (Mr. Wilson Patten) ; also
several petitions against, and one in favour of those clauses.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, as he had no
further clauses to bring before the House, he would not
trespass upon its attention.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL felt it to be his duty
to oppose the clause on public grounds. This was a pub-
lic Bill not intended for Manchester alone, but for the
country at large. The town of Manchester did not con-
tribute to the county rate, whilst the county had to bear
the expense of the Manchester prisoners. It was his ob-
ject to remedy that injustice, and to make such boroughs
as Manchester and Birmingham bear the expense of their
own prisoners.
Mr. CRE SS WE LL thought that the proposition for
compensation was founded on the Municipal Reform Bill,
and was, in fact, a following out of that Bill. The only
ground for taking away from this gentlemen (Mr. Chap.
man) the right to compensation was, that he had
brought an action to try his right.—(Hear, hear.) The
Hay. Member for Manchester (Mr. M. Philips) had ad-
mitted that the gentleman was an excellent officer, and
would have received compensation from the coiperation ii
he- bad condescended to ask for it, upon the general
principle recognised in the Municipal Reform Bill—that
persons deprived of their offices by that Bill should be en-
titled to compensation. It any Hon. Member brought in
a clause to compensate the coroner of Birmingham, or of
Bolton, he would support the motion.
Mr. C. BULLER said be thought they had better
discuss one clause at a time. His Hon. and Learned
Friend had made an excellent speech, but not upon the
present clause. It was difficult
,to limit the efforts of the
human mind, but the present clause appeared to be the
summit of human impudence. (Hear, bear, and
laughter ) The corporation of Manchester had been liti-
gating for many years, and when the matter was decided
against them, they said " Pay us our costs, and we will
litigate no further."—( Hear, bear.) The House had no
right, in a Bill like this, to force a compromise upon
those who did not wish it.—(Hear, hear.) He would
venture to say, if the House sanctioned this clause, they
would sanction the most impudent and preposterous claim
ever made to it.--( Hear, herir.)
Mr. CRESS\VELL said the decision in the Queen's
Bench was merely formal.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the case was ar-
gued fully in every point before the Judges of the Exche-
quer Chamber, and he considered the question of the
Charter was fully decided.
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Mr. W. PATTEN then rose to propose the following Strangers were then ordered to retire, but no division
clauses :—" And whereas, questions are pending as to the took place, and the clause was withdrawn.
validity of the Charter of Incorporation granted to the Mr. WILSON PATTEN then moved the second
Mayor, Aldermen, and Burgesses of the borough of Man- clause of which he had given notice, for giving compensa.
chester, in pursuance of the said Act of the sixth year of tion to Coroners and other officers.
the reign of his late Majesty, or of some subsequent Act ; After a few words from Mr. WAKLEY and Mr. MARK
be it declared and enacted, That the said Charter of In- PHILIPS,
corporation, and -also the Commission of the Peace, and The ATTORNEY-GENERAL reminded the House
grant of a separate Court of Quarter Sessions of the Peace, and the Hon. Member for Finsbury that according to the
issued or granted to the said borough, and all acts and existing law it was in the power of the Lord Chancellor to
proceedings done or had in pursuance thereof, shall be order a writ to be issued at any time for the election of a
deemed good and lawful from the time of such grant, new coroner, in case it sh ,uld be eiscovered that the gen.
acts, and proceedings, and that all costs and expenses tleman filling the office was in any way incompetent to
which have been incurred before the passing of this Act, discharge its duties.
in and about the obtaining, establishing, or opposing any Mr. WAKLEY hoped other parties would not be
such grant, act, or proceeding, or in or about the holding coupled with the unfortunate coroners, otherwise they
of any inquest by any coroner within the said borough, or would stand a chance of having their merits overlooked.
all costs already incurred or to be hereafter incurred, in or If another coroner wan appointed for Middlesex, he (Mr.
about the prosecution, conveyance, or maintenance of any *lrVakley) could assure the Hon. and Learned Member
persons having committed any offences within the said bo- that he should never apply to him for compensation.
rough by the said corporation, or person or persons whom- Mr. GISBORNE said, in the county of Chester,
soever, shall be paid and discharged by the council of the where an additional coroner had been appointed, compen-
said borough, and out of a rate to he made, assessed, and sation had been given to the party previously in the office.
levied for that purpose by the council of the said borough, Mr. W. PATTEN had no objection to divide the
in the nature of a borough rate or otherwise, as the said clause and frame a separate one for the coroners, the
council shall think fit ; which rate may be recovered in the clerk of the peace, and the magistrates' clerks.
same manner as any borough rate is recoverable under the The ATTORNEY-GENERAL hoped the Hon. Gen-
said Act of the sixth year of the reign of his late tleman would go further, and extend its provisions beyond
Majesty, 'or under any subsequent Act framed Manchester.
for the amendment thereof, such costs and charges, Mr. J. JERVIS suggested that the clause should be
without prejudice to any contract respecting ihe withdrawn for the present, in order to afford an oppor-
naaietenance of prisoners, being ascertained and set- tunity to frame a clause which would include all the
tied in each case by the Recorder of the borough."_ coroners.
" And whereas, by reason of a grant of a Charter of In- Mr. MARK PHILIPS would not object to a general
corporation to the borough of Manchester, the Coroner for clause as regarded the coroners, but he should certa;nly
the County Palatine of Lancaster, acting within the divi- object to compensation to the other officers named in the
sion of Manchester, the clerk of the peace for the said clause.
County Palatine, and the clerk of the justices of the Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Com-
peace appointed under an Act passed in the fifty-third mitiee divided, when there appeared--
year of the reign of King George the Third, for the more For the clause 73
effectual administration of the office of a justice of the Against it ..
peace, and to the other justices of the peace acting within Majority . 55
the said division of Manchester, have been deprived of On our return to the Gal?ery we found
their fees and emoluments arising from their respective Sir C. DOUGLAS moving the insertion of a clause
offices within the said borough, and it is expedient that providing compensation for the clerk d the peace of the
compensation be therefore made to them in like manneras if county Warwick and far the coronea, of the said county,
they had been officers of a borough before the passing of the sitting within the Hundred of Hemlingford.
%aid Act cf the sixth year of the reign of hia late Majesty, who Mr. HUM E complained that the clause had not been
were removed from their offices under the provisions of that printed, and moved " That the Chairman do report pro.
Act ; be it therefore enacted, that the said coroner and gress." He had understood that it had been decided that
clerk of the peace, and clerk to the justices, shall he en- the clerk of the peace for the county of Warwick was not
titled to heve an adequate compensation, to be assessed by entitled to compensation.
the council, and paid out of the borough fund of the said ! Mr. M. PHILIPS could not vats for the clause until
borough, for the fees and emoluments of their several it had properly COITIC under consi lera ion.
offices arising within such borough; and that all provi. Mr. JE le VIS said that by voting for this clause for the
SiODS of the said Act of the sixth year of the reign of his compensation of coroners the House would only affirm
late Majesty, relating to the claim of any corporate officer that coroners were entit:ed to compensation. Hon.
for compensation, on account of being removed from his Members would afterwards have an opportunity of con-
office, anti to the manner cf securing and determining the sideribg the application of the clause to this particular ease.
amount of such compensation, shall apply, except as Mr. HUME must persist upon principle against pro-
hereinafter provided, to the said coroners, clerk of the seeding with this clause until it had been previously
justices; provided always, that the printed. _
statementpeace, a nd clerk
t obe t oh t
deliverede to the town clerk by each such The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought the Hon.
officer, shall sot forth the amount of the fees and emolu- Memiser for Warwick would beat gain his object by. with-
meats in respect whereof he shall claim compensation drawing his clause for the present.
during five years next preceding the grant of the char- sir C. DOUGLAS said he would have the clause
ter of incorporation to the borough respecting whieh printed, with a view to its being brought up.with the Re-
such claim is made, and that, in estimating the amount port.
of compensation each of the said officers shall be Lord FRANCIS EGERTON then moved theelause of
deemed to have held his office for the term of his life." i which he had given notice, exempting the Borotigh of
The Hon. Member said that there had been a long and ' Bolton from the operation of the Bill. He knew he might
expensive lotitt2st ii Nip 1., -t -the b'e t't- • d e.d fie told t' a• :be 13i.1 :,":! ,r,c .;•-• d:i,.J..t.;., : ~,,:iiro; tot
in these clause. T ..ne .e- e. on au !..c in ti; u ,
... he parties were exeeediagly numerous iSalt9a Charter, but ALI it woalu base the cii,c, of LuiA.
"e party consisting of the Corporation of firming n
on both sides; it in an indirect maner. Several of the rate-
Manchester and the hot er of those who were opposed to it. I payers had determined to litigate the question at the earliest

possible opportunity, and this case was a perfectly dill rcpt
Case, and a much stronger one than the case of M Cr,
to which allusion had already been teed-e, and they were
apprehensive that they should by this Bill be put in a
worse situation than the one they at present occu-
pied. They were desirous of bringing the question to
to trial, and did not wish to be deprived of t!te
opportunity of trying- the easo by the indirect 'Opeiation of
this Bill. In order that the House Might understand dis-
tinctly the operation which the clause of the Attorney-
General would have upon Bolton, it was necessary that
he should explain that Int present the Corporativa was
unable to levy a borough rate, h!cause the township and
the borough were not co-terminous. Now the Attorney-
General's clause would enable them to levy a borough-
rate, and deprive those persons of the opportunity of try-
ing the question of the Charter, which they wereanxious to
do, should the rate be lev;e:l. Such were shortly
the grounds on which he entr,.,atel the House
to exempt the borough of Bolton from the
operation of the Bill. He would he glad to give
any explanation that might be require .l, hut at that late
hour be did not wish to occupy the attention of the House
longer than was necessary.
The clause was then brought up and read a first time.
On the motion that it be read a second time,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he should be
under the necessity of strongly opposing ..he clause, as he
considered tint entirely to exempt Button from the opera.
tion of the Bill would be highly objectionable. If it
were sought by that Bill to deprive the inhabitants of
Bolton of the right to question the validity of the charter,
such a proceeding would be manifestly unjust ; but no
such thing was attempted to be done. The inhabitants of
Bolton would still have the power to take any steps
they might think fit to question the validity of the Char-
ter. The consequence of exempting Elton from the
operation of the all would be, that they would not be
able to make any arrangement with the county of Laricas_
ter for the custody aria maintenance of their prisoners,
and the county of Lancaster would suffer great injustice
in consequence. To correct this inequality, it was neces-
sary that the Bill should apply to Bolton as well as to
Manchester or Birmingham, and there was no reason ac-
signed by the Noble Lord to induce him t,) assent to the
exemption..

Mr. BOLLING could assure the Attorney-General
that Bolton was peculiarly situsted ; it was divided into
three townships, Great Bolton, Lids Bolton, and the
northern pa-t. Great Bolton being only within the
borough, all the expense relating to th,t could be
taken out of the poors'-rate. But with regard
to the other portions, they were obliged to levy
a second rate, which was objected to. Tue pal tics
agreed to levy in a friendly manner, for the rat., in order
to try the question ; but after carrying the proceedings
to a certain point, the corporation party had given up toe
contest. The Bill would go to legalise tie levying of
rates other than those authorised by the Municipal Act,
and on that ground he c:airued the exempt on sought.
Ttie Queen crai:d grant a c4arter, but she could mgt ;;rant
the power of levying money. He did nut oppose the
Cnarter per se, but they were desirous of tr.)ing whether
they could be legally saddled with this rate ; 5,000 rate-
payers had petitioned not to be saddled with the
useless expendi.ure for a gaol and quarter ses-
sions, when they were within ten miles of Manches:er,
to the prison of which place their prisoners rn ght be con-
.veyed by railroad at a shilling a bead. Two years ago
they had had a police force imposed on tiein by the Noble
Lord, whieli had cost 3 000/. in the last year, and 5,000
of the ra,c-payers now appealed to that [louse for prottc-
tion against that. Bill.

Mr: A INS WORTH said that the petition alluded to
by his Hon. Colleague had brew got up under false pre-
teeces.—( Hea-, hear.) The town had been placarded with
bills stating that a gaol was to be built at the cost of 20,0001,
and:. a new poor-house at the cost of another 20,000/. ; o!
course, the rate-payer, oer." anxious on the subject. The
fact was, there was no intention to build either a
poor-hote,e or a gaol. The Bill would however,
give them the power of using the goal to which his H.m.
Colleague had alluded, therefore if the Bill passed they
ewould be able to enter into an arragement with the coun-
try on the (subject. With respect to the cha•ge of the
police Bolton was in the same situation as B;i mingham.
The Corporation had appoi,ted a police; their right to
do so had been opposed ; the old police had been kept up,
and constant quarrels between the two had been the cense.
quenee. His Hon. Friend had alluded to the expenses of
tee Corporation. But it was a fact that the Corps), a.
lion had effe.oed a clear saving of 5001. a year by tae
quarter session alone. They had formerly to send all
their prisoners to Manchester.—( Hear, hear.) The argu-
ment of the Attorney-General was very just, that the
county bad at present to support all the borough prison-
ers, although the borough contributed nothing to the
county rate. The lion. Member then referred to the
repors of Captain Jebbs to sh iw that a large majority of the
householders hal petitioned for the granting of a charter.
Then: were 5,115 householders in favour of the c)rp, ra-
tion, and no more then 2,956 against it. There was,
therefore, a much larger proportion of the inhabitants in
favour of the corporation in Bolton than either in Alla-
cheater or Birmingham. Indeed, there seemed to be no
ether objection to the including Bolton in the Bill than
that there would be no one to compensate except the co-
roner.—( Hear, hear.) 1-1,, hoped the House would not
countenance the motion of the Noble Lord the Member for
South Lancashire ; or rather ho hoped the Noble Lord
would see the propriety of withdrawing his motion.
Mr. GRIMLDITCII, who was very imperfectly herd,
supported the motion of the Noble L (Francis Eger-
ton), and hoped the Noble Lord would press the question
to a division.

Mr. M. PHILIPS (amidst loud cries of " Divi lc,
divide") said that be had been requested to oppose the
proposition of the Noble Lord.—(" Divide, divide.")
The expenditure of the bcrough would be diminished by
the Bill, in one item to the extent of reducing a charge
of 181. to 31. 15s. He hoped the clause would not be
pressed. _

- After a few words from Lord F. EGERTON, which
were inaudible in the gallery, the Committee divided,
when there appeared—
For the clause
Against it 75
Majority 44
•

TBhenand the Chairman reported
the
ordered
rmedt:o he received on Friday next.
isecht e
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE (No. 1) BILL.
The House lu,vicg g,;ne into Committee on this B:11,
Mr. HAYTER. moved the f Mowing proviso to the
clause awarding- compensation :—" Provided always, and
be it hereby further enacted, that every annual or other
sum of money aw,trded by way of compensation or other.
wise, under this Bill, to the Honourable Robert Campbell
Scarlctt, now one of the Mast.rs of the Court of Exche-
quer, shall•cease to be pay4ble, when and an soon as he
shall succeed to the dignity of a Peer of the United Ki:ig.
dom."—Agrced to.

' The Bill then went through Committee, the rernairdlg
clauses having been agreed to.
Mr. FOX MA ULE obtained leave to bring in a 8.11
to explain and amend an Act entitled " An Act to extend
the Practice of Vaccination."

The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of,
and the House adjourned at One o'Clock.

CfIIIMERCE AND NAVIGATION.
CONVENTION OF COMMERCE AND NAVIGATION BETWEEN
GREAT BRITAIN ON THE ONE PART, AND PRUSSIA,
BAVARIA, SAXONY, W U RTEMBURG, BADEN, THE ELEC-
TORATE FAS 13 THE bailkii DUCHY Ol' 1~T555~, THE
eT.Airrs fokiviiNa THE CUSTOMS AND COMMERCIAL
'UNION OF TH U RINGIA, NASSAU, AND FRANKFORT, ON
THE OTHER PART.

IMPORTANT MEETING OF THE

NEW ZEALAND COMPANY

On Saturday the general annual meeting of this Company
took place; Joseph Soames, Esq., in the chair. A full
attendance of Directors, and a numerous body of the Share,
holders was present. The Report congratulated the shareholders
upon the recognition of New Zealand by the Government as a
portion of the British empire, and upon the accordance of a
charter by the Crown. It stated that the affairs of the Com) any
are extremely flourishing, and that with reference to the favour-
able accounts from Port Nicholson,—to the extensive sales of
land in the second (projected) settlement, fur the choice and
survey of the site of which an expedition sailed from Gravesend
on the 27th ultimo, and to the general tendency to select New
Zealand as the field of emigration, its future prospects are equally
satisfactory. It proceeded to state that the Company was impe-
ratively called upon to demonstrate that its measures were not
merely of a selfish nature, and that its attention had ever been
most lively engaged in an enlarged and generous view of the
claimsof the brave men who hadundertakeo, under its auspices,
the arduous task of establishing in one of the re-
motest islands of the Southern hemisphere a new and
most important dependency of the British Crown. Taking
this as a principle, and to give proof of the sincerity of its public
spirit, the Directors first proposed to encourage, by means of
a bounty, the establishment of a line of packets for letters and
passengers between New Zealand and the western coast of the
Isthmus of Darien, from whence it would he easy to commu-
nicate with Chagres on the eastern coast, to which place a re-
gular line of steam•packets, in connection with the Post-office,
will soon commence running. This route would expedite the
passage from England to New Zealand to about 70 days, thus
rendering those islands the neare,t, instead of the most remote,
of the southern colonies of the Crown.

.......
Art. 1. In consideration of the circumstance that British
vessels are admitted, together with their cargoes, to entry
in the ports of Prussia and of the othet Staten of the afdres
named union of customs, when coming from the ports of
all countries, and in consideration of the concessions stipu-
lated in this present convention for British trade with all
the States of this union of customs ; in consideration,
also, of the facility which the application of steam
power to inland navigation affords for the conveyance of pro-
duce and merchandise of all kinds up and down rivers ; and in
consideration of the new opening which may by these means be
given to the trade and navigation between the United Kingdom
and the British possessions abroad, on the one hand, and the
States now composing the union of customs on the other ;
some of which Slates - use, as the natural outlet of their com-
merce, ports not within their own dominions; it is agreed
that, from and after the date of the exchange of the raitica-
tions of this present convention, Prussian vessels, and the
vessels of the other States forming the said union of cus-
toms, together with their cargoes, consisting of all such goods
as can be legally imported intti the United Kiegdom and the
Br.tish possessions abroad, by the said vessels from the ports
of the countries to which they respectively belong, shall, when
coming from the mouths of the Meuse, of the Ems, of the
Weer, and of the Elbe, or from the mouths of any navigable
river lying between the Elbe and the Meuse, and forming the
means of communication between the sea and the territory of
any of the German States which are parties to this Treaty, be
'admitted into the ports from which such vessels may have come,
as aforesaid, were within the dominions of Prtmie, or of any
otherof the States aforesaid ; and such vessels shall be permitted
to import the goods above-mentioned upon the same terms
on which the said goods might be imported if coming from
the national ports of such vessels ; and also that, in like
manner, such vessels proceeding from Great Britain and her
colonial possessions abroad to the ports or places thus referred
to, shall be treated as if returning to a Prussian Baltic port :
—it being understood that these privileges are to extend to
the vessels of Prussia and of the States aforesaid, and to
their cargoes only in respect to each of the said ports in which
British vessels and their cargoes shall, upon their arrival
thereat, and departure therefrom, continue to be placed on
the same footing as the vessels of rrussia and of the other
States of the Union.

Art. 2. His Nlajes'y the King of Prussia, in his own name,
and in the name of the States aforesaid, agrees to place, al-
ways and in every way, the trade and navigation of the sub-
jects of her Britannic Majesty, in respect to the importation
of sugar and rice, upon the same footing as that of the most
favoured nation.

The Directors also proposed by the instrumentality in the
first instance of the Company (though it was expected that such
an institution would soon pay its own expenses) to establish a
seminary or college for the education of youths intended for a
colonial career. Amongst many other important announce-
ments it was stated that qn arrangement with the Church
ociety of New Zealand had been entered into, and that the
Company had contributed liberally for the endowment of a
Bishopric in those islands.
A dividend of three per cent. was declared, and after ex.
pressing its satisfation at the state of its affairs, and voting its
cordial thanks to the Directors, the meeting was dissolved.
A dinner was given, at the Clarendon, in the evening to
E. G. Wakefield, Esq., at which that gentleman was highly
complimented by Lords Howick and Eliot, and other distin-
guished persons present, upon the great success which had
waited upon every step of the Wakefield system of colonization.

Art. 3. In the event of other German States joining the
Germanic union of customs, it is hereby agreed that such
other States shall be included in the stipulations of the pre-
sent convention.

Art. 4. The present convention shall be in force until the
Ist of January, 1642, and further for the term of six years,
provided neither of the hign contracting parties shall have
given to the other six moths' previous notice that the same shall
cease to be in force on the said Ist of January, 1842; and it
neither party shall have given to the other six months' previous
notice that the present convention shall cease on the Ist day of
January, 1848, then the present convention shall further remain
in force until the Ist day of January, 1834, and further, until
the end of twelve months after either of the high contracting
parties shall have given notice to the other of its intention to
terminate the same, each of the high contracting parties re-
serving to itself the right of giving such notice to the other ;
and it is hereby agreed between them, that at the expiration
of twelve months after such notice shall have been received by
either party from the other, this convention, and all the pro-
visions thereof; shall altogether cease and determine.
Art. 5. The present convention shall be ratified, and the
ratifications thereof shall be exchanged at London at the ex-
piration of two months, or sooner if possible.
In witness whereof, the respective Plenipotentiaries have
signed the same, and have affixed thereto the Seals of their
arms.

PICTURE OF A SAVAGE:I observed a native
on the opposite bank, and, without being seen iv him, I
wood awhile to watch the habits of a savage man at home.
His hands were ready to seize, his teeth to eat, any living
thing ; his step, light and soundless as that of a shadow,
gave no intimation of his approach ; his walk suggested
the idea of the prowling of a beat of prey ; every little
trick or impression left on the earth by the lower animals
caught his keen eye, but the trees ove,head chiefly en-
gaged his attention Deep in the hollow heart of some
of the upper branches was still bidder., as it seemed, the
opossum on vtbich he was to dine. The wind blew cold
and keenly through the lofty trees on the river margin,
et that brawny savage was entirely naked. Had Ib en
unarmed, I had much rather met a lion, than that sinewy
biped; but I was on horseback, with pistols in my hol-
sters, and the broad river was flowing between us. I
overlooked him from a high bank, and I ventured to di.-
turb his meditations with a halloo. He then stood still,
that easy bounding kind of step which may be .ertncri a
looked at me for about a minute, and then returned, wi.h
running walk, exhibiting an unrestrained facility of mor...
merit, apparently incompatible with dress of any kind. It
is in bounding lightly at such a pace,
that, with the ad.
ditional aid of the watramerab (a short notched stick),
the native can throw his spear with sufficient force and ve-
locity to kill the emu or kangaroo, even when at its speed.
—Major Mitchell's Third Expedition into the Interior of
Eastern Australia.

STOCKHOLM, APRIL
03.—After a warm de-
-I,t, ~•:: f'll.:, days the ciin,.1;,,.: '.F .7'''''''' 'I 1"'-1- re';rl' 1" 7'
septatioa, by which the fate of the projected reform is deferred
for at 'least teu years.—Hamburgh ,Borsenhaile, April 30.

Done at London, the second day of March, in the year
of our Lord one thousana eight hundred and f“rtv-one.
( L. S. ) PALMII,RSTON.
(L. S.) H. LABOUCHERE.