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London, England, 1846-03-19 00:00:00

THE IRISH GREAT WESTERN (D17331.1'N TO

GALN.VIIX).

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
GROUP IX.

EI:A=377RA= AND GLASGOW AMEND.
MENT AND BRANCHES.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)

This closed tha case for the general termini scheme.

THE GLASGOW HARBOUR MINERAL.
Mr. TALBOT opened the case on behalf of this line of railway. He
commenced by showing the crowded state of the river Clyde at
Glasgow, and the necessity of separating, as far as possible,
the mineral from the general traffic. The traffic of the
harbour was fast extending down the river, and in a short
time the point of the harbour mineral would be by far
the best for the accommodation of interested parties. Having
argued this point at some length, the Learned Gentleman
went Into the features of the case he intended to prove lky evidence,
and concluded by asserting that he would show by commercial and
engineering evidence, that the Harbour Mineral scheme was of all
those submitted to the Committee the one best suited to the present.
and prospective state of the Glasgow harbour.
The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow at twelve o'clock.

GROUP XIV.
NORTIS }LENT LIRE.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
The witness was then cross-examined by Mr. CALvzirr, on behalf
of several landholders, whose property would be injured by the
station in Union-street, Southwark, with a view of Showing that
last year it was proposed to have a station at the Brick-
layers' Arms, which might be extended to the west, while
the Croydon and Greenwich line might be used for passen-
gers going to the eastward. The Learned Counsel wished to
impress upon the Committee that the plan of last year was still quite
adequate to meet the wants of the public, and therefore there was no
necessity for the lines invading Southwark.
The remainder of the day was occupied with similar cross-
examinations on behalf of numerous other landholders on the line.
The Committee adjourned at four o'clock till twelve to-morrow.

hub-Committee No. 1.
NORIVIM.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) •
The object of this Bill was to make a short line to coimect the East
Dereham and Norwich with the Norfolk Railway. The applicants
were the Norfolk Railway Company. The length way t
miles ; estimated cost, 100,0001. Agent, James Co of rail
ppock, Esq. is ;
en-
wo
gineer, Mr. Borthwick.
The Bill was unopposed. It was declared not to have complied
eeitht he standing orders, inasmuch as the declaration substituted in,
eu of the
of the funds at t subsche ription
Company's disposal.
contract did not
state the nature arid amount
PRESTON AND WYEE RAIL Way.
DOUR, AND DOCZS (NEW DOCX
itAILWAY).
The projectors sought powers by this Bill to build docks on the,
river .•
Wvre and to constract a branch railway of one mile and di,e,
furlongs, to connect the docks with the main line. The estimated
cost is 147,0001.
Agents, Messrs. Dorrington and Co.; engineers, Mr. Bidder and
;Mr. Park. Standing orders complied with.
The Committee then adjourned.

Sub-Committco No. 2.
CHELMSFORD AND BURY,
(Continued tl'ore our Afternoon Edition.)

The next allegation was that there was an inaccuracy in the trues.
sections, curves, &c., which was sustained in the following instances,
-viz., 1 furlong, 3 chains, 29 Miles ; I furlong, I chain, 9 miles ; fur-
longs, 6 chains, 4) miles ; 4 furlongs and
.3 ch,aimi ; 39 miles, :5 fur-
longs, and 5 chains, &c. &c.
This terminated the case for this petition.
Mr. GRUBBE said he had to appear on behalf of one peont
'which was very lengthy, and included several allegations similar to
those which had been disposed of already. However, as they had not,
checked these allegations, he conceived it would be the better coarse
if the consideration of that petition were postponed.
Mr. ELLICOMBS, who appeared for another petition, said that his
petition was very short, but that the same objection applied, and he
Nvould therefore feel much obliged by his being postponed also
After some conversation between the agents, the Chairman said
that the Committee would sit to-morrow, at one o'clock, for 'the hear.
lug of this case only.
The Committee then adjourned, at three o'clock. •

Sub-Committee No. 3.
arEtranroitara AND OXFORD (nrizmura. RAM RXTENSIOIV), AND azi
AND OXFORD ZITNCTZON. purrazame
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
Mr. Cavendish having been sent for to attend the Sub-
l%To.
sl V lleMook his place. Committee
N virke b. w Earl "Warwick, for which also Mr. Carter appeared,
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The Learned Counsel then proceeded at considerable
length to prove that the agreement in question was binding
only during the last session of Parliament, and did not
at all apply to the present session; and concluded by
stating that if he were to argue the point for a
period equal to that for which it was contended by his Learned
Friend that the agreement referred to—namely, for eternity—he
could not make the question more plain to their Lordships than he
had done, and should, therefore, leave the case in their hands.
Mr. TAYLOR then proceeded to reply, and contended that the
agreement in question was a permanent enjoyment to effect a tem.'
porary purpose.

At the conclusion of the Learned Counsel's speech, evidence' was
called on behalf of the Dublin and Galway Railway, which was
being proceeded with when the Committee rose, at four o'clock.

Mr. Walker, consulting engineer of the Clydc Myer Trusi, was
next called by Mr. lllldyard, and deposed, without reference to the
engineering features of the line, and taking the map before the
committee as his guide, that the general terminus scheme was pre-
ferable to the other two. It was the best scheme for all the pur-
p,scs required. Tne mode of laying down the rails was better than
in the other two.

The cross-examination of the witness did not elicit any point of
material importance. The substance of it was, that all circum-
stinces considered, the general terminus was decidedly the best
scheme.

Mr. Cnbitt, civil engineer, examined—Had heard Mr. Walker's
evidence, and generally agreed with it. Tim gradients and curves
were much heavier on the other two lines than on the general ter-
mlaus. lle had seen Mr. Robson's estimates, and thought them
ample enough. The connexion of the Mineral line with the Polloe
and Govan, and with the A%r and Greenoek Joint 112.11 ways,. was
decidedly Objectionable. The general terminus possessed. the great^
eat engineering practicability, and offered the greatest anaonnt
of
prospective advantages.
Mr. Smith, surveyor, deposed that he had valued it at the .sum of
50,358/.