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London, England, 1848-05-23 00:00:00

The clause as amended was then agreed to.
On clause 64,
Lord. LINCOLN suggested that there ought to be
Power of appeal against the provisions of this clause.
-Viscount MORPETI-1 thought legislation on that
point had better be postponed until hereafter.
Clause agreed to.
Clause 65 was agreed to.
On clause 66 some conversation arose, in the course of
whi-ch

Sir J. GRAHAM expressed his opinion that the
Br3are bitst -be,. en greatly improved in its progress
.:Committee, by limiting the powers of the
central bt'artt---(Hear, hear.) He thought it might be
1.?1, further improved by limiting the power of the local
"u_srds, and especially under clause 67. That clause
Save power to the local boards to oblige each occupier
;chi 'save a certain quantity of water in the house, and
en it gave power to tax him for the supply of it. He
felt
assured that such a power as that would never be
'B.__sented to by the public, and unless very good reason
_was given for it, he should, when they came to it, be
Prepared to move that the clause be struck out.
_ Mr. SLANEY admitted the importance of giving no
more than the necessary power to the local boards, but
Toe 67th clause was necessary, in order to give the au-
Itt rities the means of securing a sufficient supply of
slitit!r for the poor. At this moment there were thou-
sands of courts in our towns, in which not one single
house had any supply of the first necessary of life.
Ulause 66 was then put and agreed to.
On the 67th
'Viscount MORPETH admitted that the provisions
Made
those clauses were rather of a stringent and
at character; but great evils required violent reme-
"wafteS, and the evidence with regard to the supply of (t
ao''.7r_ to the poor was so conclusive, that there could be
to doubt of the necessity of ample powers being given a
is. the local boards. At the same time, he knew the
4Tossibility of insisting on water being supplied to
contented
house throughout the country, and he should be g.
els_u_tesnted to strike out the compulsory parts of the 67th b'
e leasing it only at the discretion of a local boa
"Sir J. .°1 on such supply if it were necessary.
tR GRAHAM said his objection to the clause was
hk"..t°. This clause gave the most arbitrary powers. It
%reed a tax upon the poor occupier for the default of
to, owner, and it left the local board to impose on him
3,B4aount of taxation they might think proper.
th,„°eo ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought the. objea-
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.F the Right Hon. Baronet might be got rid. of by
Principle of the words, and without destroying the
of the clause.
Sir j
would• GRAHAM said no modification of phraseology
politic r"anve his objection. Surely it was very bad
ih4_eal economy to impose a tax of this sort in any
cert' He objected to such interference with the con-
41ss of the humbler classes.
41(11:e were admitted that the powers given by the
riet,d r-•° enormous, but the evil sought to be cor-
litotes. "twired a remedy of the most stringent cha-
bUr.
the Ti —3/40 rather thought that the Bill advocated
the Rornn• Baronet did not apply to the district which
ted thatl"sronet represented.—(A laugh.) He admit-
Lt. was at'ltheOry the clause was an excellent one, but
which 'us Mine time impracticable from the extent to
Would inevitably raise rent.
cona''Yount vino
n attA—sss.sPETH would postpone the further.
weetilser et the clause, with a view to ascertain
The could could be supplied at a cheaper rate.
eetause was then postponed.
Cla Clauses 68 to 71 were agi•eed to without observation.
Pulsor"es 72 to
gut. y purchase
78, both inclusive, relating to the com-
of existing water-works, were struck
Clausetleatis 49 (as to premises for the reception of the
Pels was agreed to.
oste 3e 80 (as to the burial of the dead) being pro-
. 4r ist-s,
Lore ''''''"NLEY wanted to know where the Ntoble
Stern meant that the dead should go, since he said he
ht the to be buried in the churchiards?—(A laugh.).
Whiel!,'6„lsroble Lord, at all events, provide some place in
. kr. it dead were to be deposited.
tiefpont
07wilijeKhIwNaNs,ON supported the clause, the only
that it did not go far enough in the
Vt—ftsssaibn of the intramural interment nuisance.
as
far as-7,4U MORPETH said that if the clause wentthe
8i11..1,'T lion. Member desired, it might endanger
nu..
canoe'us 'clause was effectual in preventing any
h
tn hie- a surrounding neighbourhood might con
be as„h.
Cdr,
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°OtisLEY said that unless the Noble Lord would
ent to modify the clause so as to enable
people to
-ise°,ther places of interment in lieu of those taken
Abesit "Y the Bill, he should divide the Committeeagainst
kft r!endinent proposed by him.
to th RUDSON thought that powers ought to be given
~111 e local boards of health to provide burial places
ere needed.
Colo
'let THOMPSON said
.that he had a clause ready
11"id9 for the exigency pointed out by the last two
_ll.-
Veitkers, which he would propose,
tiolitr• BERNAL said that the Hon. if in order.
on. Member could not
Se
w.
ad 4r• NEWDEGATE said that the poor ought to be
regard to in respect to burial places, for if they were
deprived of their present places of interment by the Bill,
The
was bound to find others for them.
e ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the question
to"' surrounded by difficulties, and it would be impossible
haProvide by the Bill for fresh places of interment. The
of the Bill was to stop interments in towns where
they
endangered public health. But the question of
out
cemeteries out of the limits of the towns was
bni), which involved the rights of the clergy, and could
not be dealt with in a summary manner.
Zr• WYLDwas of opinion that the subject of inter.
Zats in towns was of too great importance to be dealt
by the present Bill. A distinct measure :ought to
4„. ...sought in. If the clause as it stood was agreed to,
" greatest inconvenience might result.
pet' MACKINNON said that if the clause was not
thre'yered in the consequence would be to perpetuateHe,
th present system of interments in tori
ueretbre,
pressed the Noble Lord not to yields to the
tietisacditeartiitzi ofthe Hon. Members for Oxfordshire and
relje„°,,rd MORPETH admitted that great difficultiesesnuers:
• sa.;mied the question, but still he thought it
torL,°r the Government to do as much as wawsaspotnssruibole_
the evils complained of. He was willing
•ti bona clause so as to avoid in some measure the oolajec-
°.'" of the g Member for Oxfordshire.
Aft on.
to ee,s.er some further conversation the clause was agreed
el‘u amendments.
0 %uses to 104 inclusive were agreed to.
clause 105 being put by the CHAIRMA.x.
Mert,i HENLEY put it to the Noble Idlnonkpptuogsitael
•• the h 7, Morpeth) whether he did not think,
• '41(1 "0"' tile Committee had gone far enoughw
to
o-rneipgohrti
pro therefore that the chairman ought
throg.re", especially as it would be
you the impossibleno to ge
Lord e remaining clauses at this sitting.
Resti 414.ORPETH. said he could not object to the sug
Th°: of the Hon. Member.
Proe,...Youse then resumed, the Chairman reporter
neii.--"i',and obtained leave to sit again on Tlaursda:

the PENSIONS.
e fours I•OGREGOR, pursuant to his notice,
moved fog
It 4.
swing returns, viz.:—
who I. return of the services of the following. persons,
the peeewe the sums charged against their namesb.o from
dtieell°Y Post-office revenue, such amounts el
stating therefrom in its progress to the Exchequer, and
anod_
,fich,„iYa° names of the heirs of his Grace the Duke of
' e
beutirlt°e-Uiejgra:—ftetnhe Duke of Marlborough, 4,0001.; t
,3,4071. 10s.; heirs of the Duke of Schomo
tbeg' 2,900/.—total, 10,3071. 10s., being the amount of
Postagrass postages on 2,473,800 letters, and . a
Oa deducting the expense of 7,321,400 letters.,
persons return of the services and duties of the following
bat ' who receive annually the undermentioned sums
tzcZfe?e revenue of the Excise, in its progress to the
peusi quer:-...the Duke of Grafton (exclusive of annual
,°f 4,000/. from Post-office), 7,1911. 125.;
Earl
per,he 1,595/. 165.; assignees of the late Charles Butarn
?,987111110iety of Earl of Bath's pension, I,2ool.—total,
tol,
lbg • es. Return of the sevices for which the fo.llom-
' 'rinar°s are paid out of their evenue of Ireland, viz..—
.2:•eitono, ofrato
from
Earl
revenue
tieties„ of Mecklenburg Strelitz, 1,7781. 4s. 4d.; Viscounto
ofC a
moPfeurdnoiwtend(exclusive of pen. 9
total
to • 2,775/. 13s. 4d. Kingdom), 9971. s.
the , J.
-RUSSELL said he could hardly think
could
make anretat.l7, or any other public department,.Losuo_
.‘me npJ'Lling like an accurate return of the.servdicteheref
wits Duke of Marlborough, but he believed
borough Dot a
Y book entitled " Coxe's Life of arl-
- bat • also several histories of the reign of
n'll°e• 'which. would furnish the Hon. Member
the for services rendered by the Duke of Marlborough,
t.lll, ra.lfh the pension alluded to had been chargedd upon
Aeto• ‘4lfles
—(Hear, hear, and 1
well-kthu of the Crown. a
services•of the Duke of bchomberg, they wore
Periecill°: *lt to anybody who had read the history of the
the TT l•°. which he lived.— Hear, hear.) If, however,ute
; Member Wished to know to. whom of the
1.311eb-:°l:aherg's heirs these moneys were
It hai. Tatum could be rocured. But of what use wouldhre.
paid, no doubtp
ditah. Originally these sums had been paid out of e
haet,levenues of the Crown; but since the Legislature
• ad taken those revenues to the public account, and had
that '4 those burdens to the civil list, he did not see, after
eutildfinrran
gement, how those burdens so undertaken
the be avoided, or that the obligation consequent
etihi"',.% be
surrender of its hereditary revenues
weal be got rid of. He, therefore, hoped the House
not consent to grant the motion —(Hear,
• liohjc; !lACGREGOR could not but regret that the
With Lord should, in the manner he had, have trifled
(oh, % question affecting the taxation of the country.—
this motto Re (Mr. Macgregor) had brought forward
Withd
, .4 as having a direct bearing upon the profuse
bittienawal of money from the public revenues of the
' teat /3 aLtda he referred not to the first, but to the pre-
Parii„l" of. Marlborough; and he contended that if the
tots
(f•unt by which the original pension had been
it was had been so corrupt as to vote it in perpetuity,
end., brae that a reformed Parliament should put an
to vil•be•the
The, first Duke of Marlborough,
and 'II, laa the pension was granted, died without issue,
RretiaZ•Mr. Macgregor) submitted there were no public
Sent bukou which it ought to be continued to
.the_pre-
Pealiun "• In the Same way he might speak of the
eni°Yed by the present Duke of Grafton. the
demahet
refused these returns, the country would
--e I/ divide his hands an inquiry. He should certainly
raotionial:lerY was cleared but no division took place, the
hir:AFAII,“44 we understood) withdrawn.
,atticsy,-;,'GREG Olt then moved for a return of the
service.-" bomber of persons, stating their duties and
°ltl eti; and several appointments, who receive thean-
Xingdo; of 23,2751.65. bid. of the revenue of the United
°hareee' its way t,.• the Exchequer, the same beingh
Ka' as annual stipends and perpetual pensions of her
Ka'
Woods
• rd j. DT,. and Forests.
•+ts-4LISSELL believed that the Committee now
suitivet of tAe Woods and Forests' depart-