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London, England, 1833-03-26 00:00:00

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the House prematurely to vote the stlPPiCl'e cs•
year before it bad given the House any informs i
Ass
Lord had not stated any good reason why he shii° to
financial
ls informationwere tuost
Ilviaheilechw backward
was in giving
give the House that information before calling (rid
vote the supplies. The Noble Lord might have Iseees,
fore the House an account of the produce of the r"
and his eeneral views of the finances of the country
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0,
Noble Lord hail now had one year's experience cede
;thaeoptabtleskieoSt
change made in the date of the financial year,rl,o)
wished to know what advantage the Noble Lord hilt ej
from the change? This was the first year when,"ted I
he expected that the new system would be bat
the best advantage, and he asked, therefore, what °,`.o
ti e public had derived from it ? The Noble Lord it's!ge
as a reason for not making his financial staterasno..i'do
ereat pressure of public business ; but the Noble le,tho
his colleagues knew of this business, and they iniglfriof
assembled Parliament sooner, rather than haeehial jet
the new regulations.—(Laughter.) The No:-;
might have proposed the votes at an earlier per+
..os,
complained that even yet the miscellaneous estimate:bet
not laid before the House, and that no reason L13%0+
given to satisfy the House on account of this
omission. Again he called on the Noble Lord toriltot
af•er one year's experience, if any advantage had d
derived from the change in the financial year, an gro
were derivable from it? In conclusion, the nightt teia
Gentlern in declared that he could not vote with Web all
Member for Middlesex, though he by no toot° Web
that the Noble Lord hail given any satisfactory a°
the observed ins of the Hon. Member. (le )!
Sir J. GRAHAM referred to the statement 010,0
Mr. Herries before the Finance Committee i° Taff
of the v,
show, in opposition to the eaten:tents
able Member for Middlesex, that the first du.'etd
the Government was to provide for the v%igencalSell
the State, and thst the revenue ought
and not riiefto
depend upon those exigencies,
pendi ure to depend on the revenue; that it was afteroo4
necessary expenditure was settled within the nal% of'
limits, that the Government ought to consider tbse,
and means for meeting it. The Right H°°' et sibit
eulogised the financial talents of the Right Hu
shat
for Harwich, and stated that he looked upon Ws
meat valuable document.
Mr. HERRIES (interrupting the Right P°o‘..,
net) was understood to a my, that his statement hell'etsi
svail ,y
Committee • vas meant to apply only to the
crate
towns of the year, arid not meant to ex°nffsu"
to the f
Chancellor of to Exch quer from stating
the expenditure of the past Ih. vievi 114
year, an, la e
fin incial resources of the country before voting
estimates. fie
the 0 el
Sir JAMES GRAHANI was content with
Hon. Gentleman's explanation, and he called °rose°
House to notice the consistency of that with the at'h:t tg
he had just made. He understood it to adirli
expenditure of the country should first he regu".tesetia",,
the strictest regard te economy, and that then thee•
of the country should be regulated accordingly. airs
o°l
Hon. Gentleman complained, too, of the estiala'
to be it, 0,
having been laid before the House; but he callvtlitbte slier
to witness that the navy estimates within Ws. "1
blr °f
the assembling of Parliament, laid upon the
°f tOOlll
House. He had been willing to give every inll,''
the House ; and of about 40 returns moved for 11"
Member for Middlesex, he had opposed only e
vtg
admitted that the experiment m ide as to the eliass;
date of the financial year had fai ed, but the fincellf.
aft are of the cause why the Ministers could n°"10
Wish their own views. They had telt it to Jail
paramount duty to bring the state of Ireland
House, and for that every other business bed nee-edlY
been postponed. The Right Hon. Gentleman aerube' eto
Ministers of delay in assembling the Parliament; ~0#
House was assembled the very first day possible. th°,th-t
first day after the writs were returnable. The Blge,",
Gentleman also complained of them for not ha".„,.elsir'
solved the Parliament sooner. In making that wined.
he could believe that the Right Hon. Glendora° jeet We
sincere. But the fact was, that under the newhi e'
regulating the constituency, the first day on gin-peelc inb'
P,rliament could be dissolved was the second of It
and the Parliament was dissolved on the third• eissiel
not necessiry for him to enter further into the 711,s fill
and he hoped that he had satisfied the Huse tRr
objections of the Right Hon. Gentleman were °
founded.
is
r
aphlvnar
probable
etbdhxal
ypb
such
uvn:eal:tl
worth
h;oamnwadoteheftiii
while to
,t
An Hoer. MEMBER said that what was Want`-ervitiai,"
financialt y
nwoi
not
which
nt Nt:statementeides tiasoifertiindh
ee:etax, pdseeunmrdeai
demanded,
iudireedoo fbst:i
ns
Mr. HARVEY said the NobleyLo.rd ova° huep
e
centes a vie,
Lord, the House could only anticipatep the rest'''. Id fe„
motion, however, was full of benet, and he
,ecciu t cr;
comfort in his anticipations. The Govern--teliPe
most anxious, as they all knew, to reduce • 004
p•nditure, and it only delayed the statenseor :the, chi,
agreeably to surprise the public by show tee
it hail fully redeemed those pledges of econolll "eorefo,
nisters made on taking office. He derived great res
from the delay, and had no doubt that the disclosa
pus'
P
Ministers,
when they were made, would strP°° e go'
expectations. He rested on that feeling, and der'svres
to St
comfort from it. They ought to allow Minis id ma
into -a Committee, and see if the Government eaPttci
out that the number of the army and navy their Try
propose was needful for the security of the co°°-eisi)°,;
that number was not necessary, lie had a well Platte-or
fidence in the Hon. Member for Middlesex, chair Waseca
propose such a diminution as was proper. '',ollB°
duty of the House to diminish that litiiibr ,:cha.
practic tile. As yet that House had dune nothing'
what it meant to do in the way of economr•
Mr. HL 11E would a diV°
not press his motion t°
Amendment negatived without a divisions
House resolved itself into a Committee of SuPPIPOO
Sir JAMES GRAHAM could assure the C,
that he was deeply impressed with a sense ot "oeetie
penance of the subject be had to bring under it'd melt
lie was about to move a vwe for the largest', agli, 01°5
important, and most extensive establishment of the
d P
try. He was aware that he was brin • ,e• these evi „,eo'
the 'artt toofa et_fite:st.oforty
fore Gentlemen who had been returnedgif to
fairly anti ful y representing the opinions °",t rig`,
constituency, and determined to enforce the nir ,
economy in every department of the public serr'ee
va o
looked, ferwarti, however, without prl 11114
cart
being satisfied that the most rigid .con t
ahl(tea.ilors.ntdi presentMlaanrs of the ye__ 0 d y
poetised, consistently with what gwas due ; tyr
safety and honour of the country, he had n° grad
the House would be satisfied that everything ',410e,
done which the circumstances re uired
Government expenditure had undecirgone a rigid verr,i'll
tion, and a statement was made b the Rig:„s We",
Gentleman the Member fur Harwich, yof which "Let
avail himself. At that time, accounts were br°7 10q,1
ward of the public income and expenditure fra—e
He should content himself, however, with ata.°lree
trf
expenditure of the year 1827. In that year tele •e/1
expenditure of the country was 55,744 0001.) a',
55,744,0001. the permanent char s a were c"d
nature that 35 952,0001. could notk be reducee4o°°i;
sum was campus dot various items, sui has 29'' 1..0
for the National Debt, 1,057,000/. for the Cire
400,000/. for pensions not charged on the Civil l'c'ee' Pre;
the la Ili-pay of the navy and areiy. Fro:n 1927 r°e
sent time, there hail been a constant. endeavour t're Ytbt
the expenditure. The Right Hon. Gentleman the iv
ceelled to make the statements which are erobodi'
following table : e Cv
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pendituie of the year !rise (he continued) p„
t of 11327 by five millions. The Rigat ogfe
then stated, that the money over which the