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SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock.

LATEST FROM PARIS.

Up to six o'clock last night Paris was perfectly
tranquil.
The Moniteur contains a decree, signed by General
CAVAIGNAC, ordering the Judge Advocite attaché to
the Courts-Martial of the first military division, and
their deputies, to prepare evidence against the indi-
viduals arrested in consequence of the events of the
23d June and following days, in order that those
persons may be tried according to the provisions of
the penal code. The same official journal contains a
decree, signed by General CAVAIGNAC, commanding
that the power delegated to the officers of the judicial
police shall be exercised under the direction of the
military authorities.
General PERROT has been named Commander-in-
Chief of the National Guard of the Seine, by General
CAVAIGNAC.
We take the annexed account from Galignani s
Messenger of last evening :
The Univers gives the following relative to the
mission which the Archbishop ofraats took on him-
self to fulfil with regard to the insurgents :
"On Sunday evening the Prelate, accompanied by
two of his vicar-generals, proceeded by the Rue St. An-
toine to the Place de la Bastille where the combat still
continued. The welcome which he had received from
General Cavaignac was but a prelude to what he met
with in the places near the scene of the combat. His
resolution was praised ; he was surrounded by citizens,
soldiers, and women, who fell on their knees, and were
unanimous in calling down blessings on the head of the
envoy of God, and in imploring his benediction. Some
among them, more prudent than the rest, represented to
him the danger, perhaps useless, which he would incur.
His reply was, It is my duty to offer ap my life;' and he
was heard to frequently repeat to himself—Bonus
autem pastor dat vitam suam pro ovibus suis. On
his route he entered several of the ambulances, giving
his blessing and absolution to the wounded. On
reaching the scene of combat, which was then going
on with great severity, he asked the Colonel who was
in command whether it was not possible to stop his
tire for a few moments; he hoped by such a plan that
that of the insurgents would also be suspended, and
that during this temporary truce he might make himself
known and come to a parley with them. The Colonel,
admiring the feeling of the Archbishop, yielded to his
request, and the anticipations of the prelate were
realised, for the firing ceased simultaneously on both
sides. The insurgents mounted on the top of their bar-
ricade, and held the butt-ends of their muskets in the
air. The Archbishop and his two vicars-general,
M. Jacquemet and M. Ravinet, advanced towards
the barricade. One man alone, dressed in a blouse,
preceded him, carrying a branch of a tree in his hand
as a mark of conciliation. The insurgents, on their
part, descended from their barricade, some of them
appearing pacifically inclined, and others with menace
in their features and in their language. By a zeal
which can readily be understood, the combatants
on the side of order could not reconcile it to them-
selves to see the Archbishop thus exposed to the
rage of men who had on that very day murdered some
persons who had been sent to parley with them. They,
therefore, neglected the request of the Prelate, and ad-
vanced, and were thus face to face with their enemies.
Reproaches and threats exchanged, and personal strug-
gles took place, the disastrous consequences of which
the ecclesiastic sought to prevent in the name
of religion, and of the Pontiff who came there to
stop the effusion of blood, to save those who had
taken up arms, and their wives and children. During
these altercations which for some time delayed the ac-
complishment of the holy mission, a musket was fired,
but it is not known on which side, or whether it was by
accident or intentionally. In an instant a cry of
• Treason, treason !' arose on all sides ; the com-
batants retired, and the firing became more
severe than ever. The worthy Archbishop was thus
placed between the two fires ; he showed no alarm, he
never thought of escaping to the right or left. He ad-
vanced towards the barricade, and still accompanied by
his vicars-general he mounted it and reached the sum-
mit. He was thus in view of both parties. The balls
whistled round him, but at this time appeared to respect
him. One of his attendants had three balls
through his hat. The mediator showed himself
and what voice could be more eloquent than this
heroic apparition 1 What thanks ought to fall on the
heart of the Pontiff, thus offering and giving his blood
and his life for the people entrusted to his care. What
glory also both for him and for the faith which inspires
it But his sacrifice was to be completed. He came
down from the Calvary where death had spared
him, and had scarcely descended a few steps, when
he fell pierced in the loins by a ball which appeared
to have come from a window at the side. A faith-
ful servant who followed him unknown to his master,
endeavoured to catch him in his arms, but was himself
wounded in the side. Let us, however, render justice to
every one; the insurgents ran to his assistance, and
carried him to the Hospital of the Quinze Yingts,
and placed a guard over him. They procured the
signatures of all present to attest that be was not shot
by the persons to whom he had first spoken,
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Faubourg, and produced an extraordinary sensation.
In an hour afterwards the firing ceased not to recom-
mence. The Christian calmness and serenity which in-

duced and sustained the conduct of the 'Archbishop
never left him. On the Vicar-General, M. Jacquemet,
rejoining him, the Archbishop begged him, as a friend,
to tell him what he thought of his condition. Is my
wound serious ?' „.Itl is very much so." Is my life
in danger?' It is.' Well, then,' replied the Arch-
bishop, let God be praised, and may
ho accept the sa-
crifice which I again offer him for the salvation of this
misguided people. May my death expiate the sins which
I have committed during my episcopacy. He after-
wards confessed, and received the Sacrament of Extreme
Unction, preserving throughout his severe sufferings all
his presence of mind, and expressing a satisfaction full of
simplicity and grandeur at having accomplished what he
called his duty. 'Life is so short,' he often repeated,
and the term which still remained to me could have
been but short ; I have sacrificed little for God, for
the meu created in hia image, and repurchased with his
blood.' On Monday morning he was carried to his
palace, and as he passed through the streets the
people all fell on their knees with a feeling of venera •
Lion. He was escorted to his residence by a party of
the Garde Mobile. The countenance of one of those gal-
lant youths particularly struck him as he had seen him
fighting, and after having received a wound in the
head wrest a sabre from the hand of his assailant. He
beckoned him to approach, and having still strength
enough to raise his arms, he detached a small crucifix
which he wore suspended round his neck, and gave
it to the young hero, saying—' Never part with this
cross—place it near your heart, it will bring you
happiness.' The young man, whose name is Francois
Delavrignere, of the 7th company of the 4th batta-
lion, joined his hands in an attitude of prayer, and swore
to preserve for ever the precious souvenir of the vene-
rable dying prelate. The pain he suffers is still very
severe; the ball has not been extracted, and his medical
attendants have little hopes of his life."
We learn that at one o'clock this morning the
Right Rev. Prelate still retained possession of his
faculties, and bore his sufferings with a fortitude
which virtue and Christianity alone can bestow, but
no hope remained of his surviving beyond a few
hours.

In addition to the atrocities committed by the in-
surgents, already described, it is stated that on a
barricade in the Faubourg St. Antoine the body of
a Garde Republicaine in uniform was impaled,
and the bowels taken out. In the Pantheon the
bodies of several Gerdes Mobiles were found

hanging by the wrists and pierced by sword
and bayonet stabs. Not only were jagged bullets
used, but others were made with fragments of copper
and cast-iron. In the Clos St. Lazare an officer of
infantry, taken prisoner by the insurgents, had his
hands cut off, and he died slowly on the ground from
these frighful wounds. The feet of a dragoon were

cut off, and he was replaced dying on his horse.
The wound of General CHARBONNEL is not so
dangerous as was at first supposed.
M. DORNES, the Representative, and Lieut.-Colonel
MICHEL, of the artillery of the National Guard, are
both as well as can be expected after the severe

wounds they have received, and are considered to be

out of danger.
General DAmEsNn is in a very alarming state.
General DUVIVIER'S wound is more serious than had
been supposed, but is not dangerous.
The Constitutionnel asserts that the words " Pillage
Violation !" were inscribed on several of the insur-
gents' flags. 'We rather doubt this, particularly as
the words " Mort aux Voleurs !" was found in-

scribed on the walls of several of the houses of which
mthoeytto had
dontg the insurgentsakehpossession.lhis is a favourite
on all occasions
though by no means generally carrkd by them into

practice.
At the barrier Rochechouart the insurgents had, it
is asserted, a quantity of vitriol, with a fire-engine, to
throw it into the faces of their assailants.
M. Emux DE GIRARDIN is confined at the Con.
ciergerie, and placed in secret confinement. Even
Mme. de GIBABDIN could not obtain permission to
visit him. An application for his being let out on
bail has been made and refused.
The Paris Bourse opened yesterday pro forma, but
no business
was done.
The MOniteur publishes the speech of Count
MOLSE, the Minister of Denmark at the Court of
Paris to the late Executive Government, on pre.
in the
smiting his credentials. He professes in it,

name of the KING, the most friendly disposi-
tions towards France, and the desire to k uep
up the old relations of alliance and sympathy. The
I reply to the address of COUnt MOLKE was made by
M. DE LAMARTINE. He declares in it that the Re-
public will have for Denmark the same sentiments
as those shown by the old Government, and that
" the form which nations give to their governments
do not in any degree change their permanent rela-
tions of friendship with other nations."
The accounts from Lyons by this day's post are
very satisfastory. Not only was the capital tranquil,
but there was so little apprehension of an outbreak,
that some of the National Guards and troops of the
line were holding themselves in readiness to march
at the first orders to the relief of Paris.

We learn from Marseilles, the 24th, that the insur-
rection, which commenced on the 22d, was effectually
put down by the National Guards and the troops
of the line on the 23d. After many vain attempts
to bring the insurgents to reason, several pieces of
cannon were brought to play upon the barricades,
which were successively carried. The loss of life on
the side of the friends of order in the second day's
combat appears not to have been so great as might
have been expected, considering the resistance made,
particularly in the houses of which the insurgents
had taken possession, and from which they fired upon
the troops. The letters and journals of the 24th
do not, however, give any return of the killed. After
the taking of the barricades the insurgents were at-
tacked with great vigour in the houses, and 800
arrests are said to have been made. Among them
were several women armed with poniards.
The Moniteur Algerien of the 21st has the follow-
ing :—" The Governor-General has received a
telegraphic dispatch announcing his being elected
a representative, and authorising him to go and
take part in the labours of the National As-
sembly. This has been confirmed by the follow.
ing The Minister of War to the Governor-
General of Algeria. You are nominated a represen-
tative of the people. General MAREY is promoted to
be General of Division. The. Government wishes
you to retain your post. Nevertheless, if it be your
intention to come to Paris, you will place command
ad interim in the hands of General MARRY."

HUNGARY.
The Hungarian Ministry has determined to march
30,000 men against the Croatians.

AUSTRIA.
The tranquillity of Vienna bad continued undis
turbed up to the 22d inst.

QUEEN'S BENCH.-(THIS DAY.)
(Before Mr. Justice WIGHTMAN and a Special Jury.)

THE DUKE OF BRUNSWICK V. PEARSON.

This was another action by the Duke of Brunswick
against the Satirist for the publication of a number of libels
upon him during the two or three years which he was
the publisher of the paper. The Duke has recovered
verdicts for the publication of the same libels during the
time other persons were the publishers.
The Duke, as usual, conducted his case in person, and
read a long speech to the jury, in the course of which he
read nearly all the many libels that have appeared upon
him in the ,satirist for years.
Mr. HUNTER BROWN appeared for the defendant, and
contended that as the Duke had recovered compensation
from other persons for the publication of the same libels,
and that the vindication of his character, if that was his
object, had been as fully accomplished as it could be,
it was impossible, therefore, to avoid the inference that
the Duke was actuated by malignant motives, and such
being the ease, he held that the smallest amount of
damages would be amply sufficient.
The jury found a verdict for the plaintiff—Damages,
1,500/.

OPENING OF THE EXTENSION
OF THE SOUTII-WESTERN RAILWAY.
(THIS DAY.)
The York-road Extension of the London and South-
Western Railway was examined this afternoon by the
Government Inspector, preparatory to its opening on
Saturday next, and he expressed himself perfectly satis-
fied with the substantial and workmanlike manner in
which this important, though short line, has been con-
structed. The Inspector was accompanied in his ex-
amination by Mr. Locke, and two powerful loco-
motives were employed in testing the safety of the
various iron bridges along the line. The flight of a
locomotive across the immense bridge spanning the
Westminster-road, naturally excited a good deal of in-
terest in the neighbourhood. The construction of the
'line has been most expensive, the two miles of railway
having cost no less than a million and a half of money.
It has occupied about two years and a half in its con-
struction.

RAILWAY COMMITTEES.

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.
GROUP No. 2.— LEEDS CENTRAL RAILWAY STA-
TlON.—Opposition further considered.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

GROUP No. B.—The Committeeonthis group met
for the last time to-day, to give their decision ou the
'following cases :
EXETER AND COWLEY BRIDGE JUNCTlON.—Preamble
not proved.

Tow VALE RAILWAY AND Docx.—Preamble not
proved.
_ __

- LONDON AND SOUTH-WESTERN (Exeter and Credi-
ton, Taw Vale Railway and Dock, and Bodmin and
Wadebridge Railway Companies' Arrangements).—Pre-
amble not proved.

Thus this severe contest between the Bristol and Exe-
ter and the South-Western Companies, which has lasted
forseveral weeks, terminated in the defeat of both parties.

ELECTION COMMITTEE.
(THIS DAY.)
The scrutiny into the validity of Mr. Reynolds'
majority was resumed, and in the course of the day
the petitioners succeeded in striking off five additional
votes.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock.
LORDS' AMENDMENTS.
The Lords' amendments to the following Bills were
agreed to:—

Brighton Gas Light and Coke Company.
Norfolk Railway (Amendment of Acts and Extension
of time for commencing Reedham and Diss Branches).
REPORTS.
The following reports were considered:—
Newport and Pontypool Railway Act Amendment.
West of England and South Wales Land Draining
Company Incorporation.
Amendments were proposed and agreed to in both
Bills.

TIRD READING.
The Mersey Navigation (Amendment of Acts) Bill
was read a third time.
THE EXTENSION OF THE SUFFRAGE.
Mr. LUSHINGTUN presented a petition from Man-
chester in favour of Mr. Hume's motion, and praying for
a reduction of the expenditure.
Mr. BROTHER TON presented a petition from Sal-
ford, stating that the persons who had signed it perfectly
agreed with the Noble Lord at the head of the Govern-
ment, that universal suffrage was preferable to house-
hold suffrage, and praying for universal suffrage and vote
by ballot.
Mr. BROWN presented petitions from Manchester
and another place to the same effect.
SALE OF SPIRITUOUS LIQUORS ON THE
SABBATH.
Mr. B. HUGHES presented a petition from Car-
narvon against the sale of spirituous liquors on the
Sabbath. _

MERCHANT SEAMEN'S BILL.
Mr. WAWN presented a petition from South Shields
against the Merchant Seamen's Bill.
ST. ALBAN'S.
Mr. COBDEN moved that a petition he had presented,
complaining of abuses at the last election for St. Alban's,
be printed with the votes, which was agreed to.
. SCOTCH MARRIAGES.
An HoN. GENTLEMAN presented petitions against the
Scotch Marriages Bitl and the Registration Bill.
NAVIGATION-LAW S.
Mr. BERRIES presented a petition agreed to at a
public meeting in Glasgow, against any repeal of these
laws.

MERCHANT SEAMEN'S BILL.
Mr. BAINES presented a petition from the Trinity.
House against this Bill.
Mr. GLADSTONE postponed a motion which he had
on the paper, till the 23d of July, with respect to Sir T.
Claridge.

SPAI.
Mr. BANKES postponed hisN motion with respect to
Spain until Tuesday next.

An I-lox. MEMBER SLIGO.
gave notice that he should shortly
move that the matters
which had transpired in relation
to the Members elected for this borough at the last
election be referred to a Committee of Privileges.
Mr. EWART postponed his motion, which was on
the paper for yesterday, until the next Supply night.

DROPPED NOTICES.
Mr. STAFFORD, alluding to the dropped notices on
the paper for yesterday, inquired whether it was com-
petent for the Member for Portarlington to proceed at
Mee. or not, with his notice of motion with respect to
the borough of Sligo? The Hon. Gentleman the Mem-
ber for Montrose had proposed and carried a motion,
making it necessary that a day's notice should be given
before a dropped notice could be proceeded with.
The SPEAKER replied that all motions for new
writs were matters of privilege, and as such had prece-
dence of other motions; but yet notice must be given.
With regard to dropped notices that did not contain any
debatable matter, they could be moved for at the time

they were read; but they could not before other notices
on the same paper.
JOHN MITCHEL.—THE SHEARWATER.
Sir G. GREY--I am anxious to make a brief state-
ment to the House, in justice to some naval officers,
who feel themselves aggrieved by statements affecting
them which have appeared in the public papers, and
'which have been made the subject of a question in this
House. I refer to the officers of her Majesty's ship
the Shearwater. The House will recollect that a
question was put to me some time since by the Hon. and
Gallant Officer opposite, the Member for Armagh,
founded on a statement in the newspapers, that the pri-
soner Mitchel, who was conveyed in that ship to Spike
Island, had been invited to breakfast by the officers of
that ship. At that time I had no information on the
subject beyond what was contained in the public papers
and in a private letter to the same efftct. Since that time,
however, Admiral Mackay, who was in command at Cork,
has called for a detailed report on the subject from Lieut.
Tumour, the commanding officer of the Shearwater,
and his explanation is perfectly satisfactory, and com-
pletely exonerates the officers of that ship from the
slightest imputation. It appears that the prisoner was
placed aboard under the • charge of two police
officers, and the chart-room was assigned b
ti
Lieutenant Tumour for their use during the
passage. The steward was directed to furnish the pri-
soner and the police-officers with their meals in that
room, and this was done, with the exception of their
breakfast, on the very morning on which they came on
board ; in consequence of the chart-room being
occupied by the bed of the police-officers, the break-
fast was provided in the gun, room, but not until
after the officers of the ship had themselves breakfasted.
Lieutenant Tumour and the officers, though they felt
aggrieved by the statement which had appeared in the
papers, in this respect had very properly abstained, in
obedience to general instructions in such cases, from
justifying themselves by any statement made through the
public papers, and although I otherwise should
have felt it unnecessary to refer again to the case
and feel that under these circumstances it is due to the
officers of the Shearwater, that I should give this ex-
planation of the real facts of the case, which completely
exonerate them from the slightest blame.—(Hear.)
DERBY " SWEEPS"—IMPORTANT STATE-
MENTS.
Sir ROBERT HARRY INGLIS said, about ten
weeks ago he called the attention of the Right Hon.
Baronet to certain advertisements which had been
inserted in the newspapers for the purpose, of raising
sweeps for the "Derby." He wished now to ask the
Right Hon. Baronet, believing hardly any proceedings
causes more demoralization and mischief, first—whether
such advertisements or practices were illegal ; according
to his view of the law, and the law officers of the Crown;
secondly, if they were illegal, whether the Government
was prepared to take any measure to prevent or punish
such practices in the future ?
Sir G. GREY said that in consequence of the atten-
tion that had lately been given to this subject he had
made inquiry into the state of the law, and he believed
that by a decision of the Court of Queen's Be nchin
an
1845, it had been held that a lottery for the Derla,
illegal lottery, and it appeared clea y was
such advertisements as had been alluded tor by thatthe
Hon. Baronet were prohibited, under the statutes of thet
42d of George IL and the 6th and 7th of Wta. ,
chap. 56. In consequence of these circumstances, some
communications had taken place between himself and
the Board of Stamps and Taxes, in which it had been
stated by the Board that it was their intention to submit
certain advertisements to the consideration of the Home-
office. Those advertisements had not yet been received
by hiin ; when they were, he could assure the Hon.
Baronet he should give his best attention to them.
RAIL WAY COMMISSION.
Mr. BANKES said that he had a notice on the paper
for next Tuesday of a motion for leave to bring in a Bill
to repeal the Railway Commission Act. It was his in-
tention, with reference to that motion, to put a question
to the Government on Friday next, the tendency of
which would be to know whether it was the intention of
the Government to oppose that motion.
NO HOUSE YESTERDAY.
Mr. EWART, after complaining that no House had
been formed yesterday, gave notice of his intention to
bring forward the motion which stood on the paper yes-
terday on the first night of a Committee of Supply.
Sir WM. MOLES WORTH gave notice of his inten.
tion to bring forward the motion which he was prevented
doing yesterday, in consequence of there being no House,
on the 25th oduly.
Mr. COBDEN said it was notorious to all that when
no House was made it was the fault of the Government,
and the Government alone.—(Oh, ob.) There was not
a single member of the Government on the Treasury
benches yesterday.
Sir GEORGE GREY thought the assertion of the
Honourable Member was totally uncalled for and
unworthy of him. (Hear, hear.) There were,
as he understood, no less than six Members connected
with the Government present yesterday, and if the Hon.
Member was desirous of knowing what was the reason
that he (Sir G. Grey) was not present, he begged to in-
form him that he was attending a Council at Buckingham
Palace.—(Hear.) He thought it was the duty of Hon.
Members who had motions on the paper to take care and
make a House.—(clear, hear.)
Sir W. MOLESWORTH had done all in his power
to make a House, but several gentlemen who had pro-
mised him to come down had not performed their pro-
mute.—(Hear, hear.) He made no charge against the
Government.—(Hear, hear.) After some further dis-
cussion, the matter dropped.
SLIGO ELECTION.
On the motion of Colonel DUNNE the evidence taken
before the Slgo Election Committee was ordered to be
printed. _

ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL.
On the motion that the House should resolve itself
into Committee on the Roman Catholic Relief Bill.
Mr. GORING opposed the motion. He could see no
object that would be obtained by the Bill, inasmuch as
the Acts which it sought to repeal were in fact obso-
lete, and virtually rethaled. The II mourable Mem-
ber alluded to the various anathemas which had
been issued by the Pope egsinst the Protestants
of this country, and which were unrepealed, and
stated that the Pope still asserted the powers which
were conferred upon him by the Church, and would
exercise them if he had the power which the Hon. Mem-
ber for Youghal endeavoured to obtain for him by the
present Bill. The
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Protestant feeling in this country. In that book the
doctrine inculcated by St. Alphonsus Liguori was ap-
proved of, that servants should be at liberty to steal if
they were not paid sufficiently well by their masters.
The Roman Catholic religion had lately been declared
to be the religion of the state in Sicily to the exclusion
of all others ; the King was obliged to profess it,
and should he change his religion he was to be
considered as having forfeited his throne. What
security, therefore, had they that this would not
be the case in Ireland, supposing the Roman Catholics
were to get the Bill passed? He had attended to all
the debates on the subject, and had heard a good deal
about many grievances which were inflicted upon
Catholics by certain obsolete statutes, but he had never
discovered any real case of hardship, or any relief which
the repeal of those statutes would give to their Roman
Catholic fellow-countrymen. An argument had been
brought forward, that if the Bill were passed there
would be an end put to religious discussions in that
House, but could they suppose that the zeal and
energy of the Jesuit order would be relaxed, and that
the high spirit of the Noble Lord (Lord Arundel and
Surrey) would be satisfied by the all ? On the con-
trary, he considered that the Noble Lord would continue
his agitation until all the boons had been granted by
the House. He considered that the conduct of the
Roman Catholics in Ireland had been such as not
to entitle them to any such relief as was proposed
to be given to them by the Honourable Member,
and he said so on the authority of the Noble Lord (Lord
J. Russell), who had stated that the Roman Catholics
had not been excluded from the jury upon the trial of
John Mitchel because they professed the Roman Catho-
lic religion, but because they sympathised with the acts
and views of the criminal. He drew the inference
from that circumstance that the Roman Catholics
were disaffected in Ireland. If the Bill were
passed it would be viewed as an insult
upon the loyal Protestants of Ireland, from whom they
could only look for assistance during the periods of
disturbance and rebellion, which he must say had been
encouraged in that country by the truckling legis-
lation of the Noble Lord (John Russell). On these
grounds he moved that the Committee on the Bill be
postponed until that day fortnight.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY supported the amendment.
Sir GEORGE GREY said, when they got. into Com-
mittee he would readily state the course Government
intended to take in reference to this clause. He had,
however, every reason to believe that before they
reached the clause his Hon. and Learned Friend the
Attorney-General would be in his place, ready to sup-
port it; and he, therefore, trusted the House would ne-
gative the amendment for adjourning the Committee for
a fortnight.
Mr. FORBES said he was opposed to the Bill alto-
gether, and he certainly should vote for the amendment.
Sufficient concessions had already been made to the
Roman Catholics, and if this Bill were passed a great ,
body of the most loyal people of this country would have
cause to complain of the conduct of the House.
Me. Sergeant TALFOURD said the topics which were
urged against the Speaker leaving the chair had already
been most fairly discussed and decided upon, and it was
really too bad to raise another discussion upon the
principle of the Bill. It was unfair to obstruct the
progress of the Bill at this stage, and he re-
gretted that the Hon. Gentlemen opposite had not
deferred their opposition till they had got into Com-
mittee. He for one was opposed to many parts of the
Bill as it stood, but he felt it would be an unbecoming
course for him to pursue had he followed the example of
Honourable Gentlemen opposite. He should, however,
strenuously oppose these objectionable parts of the Bill
in Committee; and had Honourable Gentlemen opposite
adopted the same plan, it would have been more honour.
able to themselves and more calculated to aid the object
they had in view, of modifying, if not throwing out the
Bill.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. NEWDEGATE contended that the principle of
the measure had not been efficiently discussed, while no
member of her Majesty's Government had ever yet given
an explicit explanation of their views in reference to
many clauses of the Bill, and he insisted that those with
whom he acted were perfectly justified in retarding the pro-
gress of the measure by every means in their power. The
recent policy of the Pope of Rome in reference to Foreign
Powers, fully demonstrated that he was anxious to ol-
tain an ascendancy over those Powers, and he warned

N..
the House to be cautious how they increased the pri-
vileges of those who acknowledged the supremacy of the
Pope. It was quite clear from the recent edicts of the
Pope, that he would afford no protection to those sove-
reigns who did not acknowledge his own right to be the
representive of Christ, and the spiritual head of all nations
in the world, and if the House, by passing this Bill,
increased the power of those who upheld that doctrine,
they might depend upon it that sooner or later it would
lead to disastrous colisions between the two parties.
Why the Pope openly told all who adopted the Catholic
faith that they owed no allegiance to that authority
which denied his own supreme spiritual power ; and
were they, on the lace of this startling evidence„to de-
liberately . sit quiet and allow a Bill to pass into a law
which should facilitate the preaching of such dangerous
doctrines? Certainly not, and with the experience:they
had i❑ the fact that every Catholic Sovereign in Europe
had felt himself at one time or other compelled to resist
the aggressive encroachments of the Pope of Rome, he
had no hesitation in telling the House that if they
passed this Bill they would be jeopardizing the
Crown and institutions of the State.—(Hear, hear.)
lie wished to know whether the Government considered
it consistent with their duty to their Sovereign, whom
they had sworn to serve, to recognise, as they did, any
bulls which emanated from a foreign Power which had
never denied its hostility to the Crown and established
religion of this country. He asked this question of her
Majesty's Government, whether the amendment of the
Attornoy-General would guard against that, and prevent
interference in the appointment to benefices?
Sir G. GREY said the lion. Gentleman asked him a
question which he must know it was impossible for him
to answer in that stage of the Bill. He should be happy
to give the most ample explanations in Committee.—
(Divide, divide.)
Colonel CONOLLY opposed the going into Commit-
tee, because he believed that the Catholics were not sub-
jected to any arbitrary restrictions in the exercise of
their religion.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For going into Committee
Against it
Majority.
—26
The House then went into Committee.
Mr. NEWDEGATE repeated the question he had
asked before the division.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said his amendment
would render the law more stringent than it was before.
The Pope would, he apprehended, have no ecclesiastical
jurisdiction. He had no jurisdiction in law in this king-
dom, and he could not acquire it by this Bill. But if
parties thought proper to obtain directions from him, that
was a matter which, perhaps, no law could prevent.
After a few words from Sir R. H. INGLIS,
/dr. NEWDEGATE wished to say that a bull w
an authoritative document, and whether the Govern-
ment in allowing such bulls did not virtually place itself
in a subsiduary and corroborative part.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL repeated that the
Pope had no authority whatever in this country. The
Pope might have authority over the consciences of some
people in this country, but it was a fallacy to say that
in the law he had any spiritual power. The Hon.
Gentleman then proposed a verbal amendment in one of
the early clauses of the BilL
Mr. NAPIER objected to the amendment, contending
that if it was adopted, it would encourage the issuing of
bulls from the Papal see, and not, as had been stated by
the Learned Attorney-General, act more stringently in
preventing their being issued.
Mr. C. ANSTEY said his only object in bringing in
the Bill was to have granted to his Roman Catholic
brethren the full measure of constitutional liberty which
was enjoyed by the Protestants of this country. The
clause would have the effect of enabling Roman Catholics
to en joy that freedom of communication among them-
selves and with the head of their Church which already,
in the abstract, was afforded to them by the existing laws;
and, above all, would take away from our statute-book
several obsolete provisions, which, if they had done
nothing more, had afforded stock in trade to agitators.
Mr. NEWIEGATE said the Attorney-General's
duties appeared to be most onerous and important, for
after making a statement to the House, he had not
waited to hear the discussion upon the clause, and the
House was now left, in doubt as to its effect. He trusted
that the House would not permit any such introduction
of a foreign power into this country, as was sanctioned
by the amendment. If the Bill was passed as amended,
it would permit the exercise of bulls in this country
which were issued by the see of Rome.
Sir G. GREY said the amendment would have the
effect of limiting the introduction of bulls, as it was
originally proposed by his Learned Friend the Attorney-
General.
After a few words from Mr. Henley, Sir G. Grey, Mr.
Anstey, and Sir H. Willoughby,
Mr. WALPOLE said he was only opposed to such
repeal of the statutes as would be detrimental to the
Protestant institutions of the country, and he would at
once give his consent to the abolition of those absolete
enactments which had been referred to in the course of the
discussion. He would therefore support the amendment
introduced by the Government, because though it sanc-
tioned the admission of bulls, it would exclude those
which were decidedly objectionable.
Mr. NEWDEGATE had great respect for the opinion
of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Walpole), but be considered
that it was advisable to take the opinion of the House
upon the matter.

After some discussion of a desultory nature,
Mr. HENLEY moved that the Chairman do report
progress and ask leave to sit again.
Sir G. GREY having deprecated the waste of time
that had already taken place,
The House then divided on the motion, when there
appeare!:—

- For reporting progress
Against it
110
Majority against reporting progress —4
On our re-admission to the gallery we found,
The CHAIRMAN putting the question on the amend-
ment proposed by the Attorney• General, which, after
a short discussion, the House divided upon, K hen there
appeared—
For the amendment ll3
Against it .
Mr. BERNAL gave his casting vote in favour of the
amendment, and the words proposed by the Attorney.. General were consequently added to the clause.
Sir R. H. INGLIS put it to the House, after what
had taken place, whether they would proceed further
with the Bill that day. He would move that the
Chairman should report progress, and ask leave to sit
again.

A short discussion then took place, in which the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Newdegate, and Mr.
Henley took part, after which the House divided, when
here appeared—

For reporting progress .. llO
Against it
Majority against it
The clause was then agreed to.
Sir R. H. INGLIS again urged upon the Committee
the expediency of reporting progress in the existing
state of things.

Mr. JOHN STUART supported the suggestion.
Lord HARRY VANE trusted the suggestion would
not be adopted, particularly as Wednesday was the only
day open to the Bill of an independent Member. It was
too bad for Hon. Members to come down at four o'clock,
to make speeches without having heard any of the previ-
ous discussion, and hoped in future when these important
measures came forward, Hon. Members who proposed
to take part in the debate upon them would take care
to be in their places a little earlier than two hours before
the adjournment of the House.
After few words from Mr. HUDSON, who com-
plained of the latter observation of the Noble Lord,
Sir G. GREY thought at this late period of the day
it would be better to report progress.
Mr. C. ANSTEY had no objection to do so if the
Right Honourable Baronet would undertake to devote
part of a Government night for the further progress of
this Bill.

Sir GEORGE GREY could not give such an under-
taking without consulting his colleagues.
Mr. lIUME felt that, in the present state of the
House, it was useless to think of proceeding further with
the Bill to-day.
After sotne further discussion,

Sir H. WILLOUGHBY proposed that the following
provisoes should be added to the clause last agreed to:—
Page 3, line 10, after the words " Roman Catholics,"
insert (the 13 Eliz. cap. 2) provided always, and be
it declared, that nothing in this enactment relating to an
Act passed in the first year of Queen Elizabeth, chapter
1,1. shall ;authorise or render it lawful for any person
or persons to affirm, hold, stand with, set forth,
maintain, or defend the authority, pre-eminence, power,
or jurisdiction, spiritual or ecclesiastical, of any foreign
prince, prelate, person, state, or potentate, within the
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, nor shall
the same extend further than to the repeal of the parti-
cular penalties and punishmentstherein referrcd to, but in
all other respects the law shall continue the same as if this
enactment had not been made. Provided always and be
it declared, that nothing in this enactment contained,
relating to an Act 13 Eliz , cap. 2, shall authorise or ren-
der it lawful for any person or persons to import, bring
in, or put in execution within this realm, any bull,
writing, or instrument of the See of Rome; and that in
all respects, save as to the penalties or punishments im-
posed by the said Act, the law shall continue the same
as if this enactment had not been made. _ _

Mr. C. ANSTEY had no objection to the insertion of
the provisions, if the Hon. Gentleman would consent to
strike out the words " therein referred to" in the first
paragraph, and to insert in their stead the words con-
sequent thereon," and to strike out the words " by the
said Act," in the second paragraph, and to substitute the
word " therein."

Sir H. WILLOUGHBY
i declined to make the altera-
tion, on the ground, that f the proviso was se worded,
the common law as
it
wellwo ualsdthhaevsetathtuetoerffYcpteonfalrteieps7.aling
After some discussion,
Sir G. GREY expressed himself adverse to the ad-
mission of the propused provision.
It was agreed that the Chairman should report pro-
gress, and ask leave to sit again.
The House having resumed, the clause was reported
accordingly.

The remaining orders of the day were then disposed
of, and the House adjourned at Six o'clock.

MR. EMERSON'S FAREWELL LECTURE.--This
gentlemen gives his concluding lecture at Exeter-hall on
Friday next. The profits go in aid of the Loads of the
Early Closing Association. As this is tile 11'st oppor-
tunity which a metropolitan audience will have of hearing
the great American Philosopher there cannot be a doubt
but that the Hall will be crowded.

SUICIDE OF COUNT VON DER LIPPE.—ULM;
JUNE 23.—0 n Thursday night, Count Von der Lippe,
Governor of our fortress, put an end to his life by
shooting himself. The event has caused a great sew,
cation here.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, June 27.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on tbe Wool-
sack shortly after Five o'clock.
The Earl of EGLINTON presented petitions from
Greenock and other places against the repeal of the
navigation-laws.
THE WEST INDIAN DISPATCHES—LORD
G. BENTINCK'S CHARGES.
Earl GREY moved for the production of certain
correspondence which had taken place between the
Governors of various West Indian Colonies and the
Culonial.office, and he would take that op-
portunity of alluding to certain charges which
bad been made against the authorities of
the Colonial-office in another place. It had been
stated ;that he (the Colonial Secretary), in conjunc-
tion with his Hon. Friend Mr. Hawes, the Under-
Secretary for the Colonies, had conspired to
deceive a Committee to which the other House
of Parliament had referred the consideration of
the important subject of the present state of
our West Indian colonies. It had been
stated that they had deliberately conspired to keep
back papers relating to the working of the Act of
1846, with the intention of deceiving the Com-
mittee. It had been stated that while they had
carefully presented to the Committee all docu-
ments calculated to support their own view of
the question, they had deliberately withheld
every paper that militated against those views. That
was a charge so serious, an imputation so utterly dis-
graceful, that if it could be maintained not only would
he (Earl Grey) be unworthy to hold the situation
which be held under her Majesty's Go-
vernment, but it would be the duty of
their Lordships and of the other House of
Parliament to take some formal proceedings, and to
mark their sense of his gross misconduct, and of his
abuse of the confidence of the Crown.—(Hear, hear.)
To what did that charge amount ? It was that he
had wilfully endeavoured to deceive a Committee of
the ot.',er House of Parliament by garbling papers.
To Ids extreme astonishment he had been told
that the person who made this charge had at-
tempted to draw a distinction between a personal
imputation and an imputation against a Minister
of the Crown in his political capacity, and
had said that he made this merely as a
political imputation. He was sure their Lordships
would agree with him that in such a case no such
distinction could be allowed.—(Cheers.) He was
surprised that one who himself looked forward to
bolding office under the Crown should have
attempted to draw such a distinction.—(Loud
cheers.) If he (Earl Grey) had been guilty
of the offence which had been imputed to him, he
had been guilty of an offence far more serious than
that of an unfortunate man who, under the pressure,
perhaps, of severe distress, had been guilty of some
mere pecuniary fraud.—(Cheers.) For a Minister
of the Crown who could so conduct himself ,
was guilty of conduct infinitely more disgraceful than
that of a person convicted of mere pecuniary fraud
at the bar of the Old Bailey.—(Cheers.) Therefore
he hoped that it was not true that any gentleman
hoping to hold office under the Crown could
have suggested such a distinction.—(Cheers.)
Such a charge as this having been made,
he hoped their Lordships would agree with him, that
it had become his imperative duty not to lose a
moment in bringing the matter under the considera-
tion of their Lordships, and in refuting such a charge
as he trusted he should refute it, in such a manner as
to defy all contradiction.—(Hear, hear.) This
charge, as he understood it, was founded upon three
dispatches. The first was a dispatch from Sir Charles
Grey, the Governor of Jamaica, dated 21st Feb. last.
It was alleged that he had wilfully kept back the
dispatch from the Committee. With respect to
the dispatch of Sir Charles Grey, he admitted
that it was one which he thought ought to
have been laid before the Committee, one which he
intended to be so laid, and which up to a recent
period he expected bad been so laid. The ordinary
course which had been adopted for years at the
Colonial-office was this. Without such an arrange-
ment it was utterly impossible that the immense mass
of business which came before the Colonial-office
could be disposed of. When a mail arrived the
dispatches were taken to the particular departmenteef
the office to which it belonged, where the dispatch
was opened and registered, and if there was any
former correspondence on the matter, it was placed
with it, and forwarded to the permanent Under-Se
cretary of State for the Colonies, or the Assistant
Under-Secretary, by whom they were transmitted to
the Parliamentary Uader -Secretary, and after
they had been inspected by the Secretary of
State, they were sent to the Prime Minister him-
self, with any remarks which he might deem ne-
cessary. The Secretary of State gave his usually
simple approval. The post bringing the dispatch in
question arrived 27th of March, which was opened by
the gentleman appointed for that purpose, Mr.
Cox, and was addressed by him to Mr.
Taylor, the chief of the department, with this
minute, " This is the report for which the
Committee have asked." At that time no perfect
copy of that report had been received, for without
the evidence it was a comparatively useless docu-
ment. It was suggested that it should be laid be-
fore the Committee the same day, and it went to Mr.
Hawes, who agreed to it. Then followed the minute
which he (Lord Grey) framed with respect to it,
the first sentence of which, with which alone he would
trouble the House, contained these words :—" 'this
may be laid before the Committee, but it requires
to be answered with some care." This minute was
dated March 30, showing how little time he allowed
to elapse before he directed his attention to the
subject. Having made this minute, he never
doubted but that it was laid before the Corn-
rnittee—(Hear)---for it was, their Lordships must be
aware, physically impossible for a Secretary of State
to look at the manner in which the orders he gave
were executed. Multitudes of returns were con-
tinually called for, and it was impossible
that the chief of the department could
inspect every paper called for ; he was not
therefore in the habit of reading the papers that were
called for by the Committee, but he gave direc-
tions that all called fur by it should be
supplied. He implicitly trusted to the
carrying out of his orders by the gentlemen
engaged in the department, and he believed he had
reason to place that confidence in them. But in this
instance a mistake had been committed. As the
mail was on the point of starting, and as there
was no tine to send a reply in writing, he
sent a verbal one, and directed that one of the copies
should be at once sent to the Committee, stating that
be should send the remainder as soon as possible. He
received the dispatch on the 28th of March, and
having looked through and examined it, he gave
directions for the reply. There was hot much delay,
for he wrote one on the 30th. The report having
been already sent to the Committee it did not seem
to him to he a very unpardonable mistake that the
dispatch had not been sent with the report
conjectural Un-
doubtedly
that was in some degree
explanation of the mistake, but at the same time it
was an explanation which was, entirely correct, and he
.must say, that not only himself hut the gentlemen
of the department to which he belonged were not
liable for the unjust censure which had been cast
upon them, more especially, as the number of dis-
patches called for by the House of Commons and the
Committee on that subject, amounted to no less than
308—(Hear, hear)—and the number of papers on
,other subjects to no less than 295; making altoge-
ther 1,630 folio pages of printed matter.—(llear,
hear.) He must say, therefore, in common justice
and in common fairness to the department, that the
mistake was not a very unnatural one. —(Hear,
hear.) But this he would say still, at all events,
and he did pledge his honour that it was purely
a mistake, and that he and Mr. Hawes both firmly
believed, and were under the impression that the dis-
patch had been laid before the Committee. Their
'Lordships could not have the slightest ground for be-
lieving that these minutes were concocted since. Mr.
Cox, Mr. Taylor, Mr. Eliot, Mr. Hawes, and him-
self had been charged with deceiving the House of
Commons by a deliberate act of forgery. Upon that
charge he would say no more than this—that he
could hardly say who deserved most to be despised,
that man, who not really entertaining that suspi-
• cion, yetwas bold enough to express it, or that man who
was so lost to all generous feeling as to he capable of
conceving it. The dispatch of Governor Light which
"as received on the 24th of April was said not to
have been laid before the Committee, although a short
extract, from it was communicated to the House.
N, whe had no hesitation in saying, that it
was by his direction that that dispatch was
kept back, and that the extract in question
. bad been taken from it by his direction. He did not
think it necessary to communicate that dispatch to
the Committee for reasousTerfehadly simple and plain.
Before the 24th the Committee a
layclosed its inquiry,
and it had been resolved not to dispatches
het', which should subsequently be received,
unle— t:,,-...,,a!ained matters of peculi importance ;
but 41, t,, ep:
ci a backac that dispatch, all he could say
wa.s, thee lc nay indirect and general bearing
on the then Under inquiry by the Committee.
It was said he had suppressed it because it contained
a passage stating that the cultivators in the island
could not compete with slave-grown sugar, under the
circumstances in which they were placed; but that fact
was well known, and no object could be gained by sup-
__ pressin it. It happened that the dispatch instead of
141tesWisra his views, :entertained the strongest evi-
rof them. He must observe to their
t had he had any dishonest motive in
, ese papers he would have naturally
i*cecee lgeteeneValeeeel the papers themselves should not be
id2*fprt House of Commons. It would have
easier for him to have done that than
"-' hoe 1 eld them from the Committee, but he

had no sinister motive whatever to induce him to
pursue that course, and therefore all the papers that
related to the West Indies were freely laid before the
House of Commons. He was told that since this
charge had been originally made against him further
charges of the same kind had been brought forward,
namely, of withholding papers and of making dis-
honest quotations from a memorial of certain planters
in the West Indies. With respect to that dishonest
quotation, it was said that he quoted a passage from
this memorial from Jamaica which was in favour of ,
his argument, without quoting the other parts of it.
Undoubtedly he did, and he wanted to know who of
their Lordships ever thought of quoting from papers
that which was unfavourable to their arguments.—
(Hear, hear.) The manner, however, in which he
used the passage was this—that where there was
a paragraph in a memorial complaining of the exist-
ing state of things that admitted facts which, accord-
ing to his views, went strongly to support his argu-
ment, he made use of it. ;With regard to the suppres-
sion of the dispatches, it was unnecessary for him to
go into particular details as to each case, and he would
content himself by stating that every order for papers
sent from the House of Commons was observed with
the utmost promptitude and with the most perfect
scrupulous good faith ; and he defied any man who
searched the archives of the Colonial-office to find
any single important line written upon the subject,
bearing upon either view of the question, which
either had not been presented at once without being
called for, or which had been presented to the House
of Commons through the medium of addresses to the
Crown.—(Hear, hear.) He assured their Lordships
that he gave directions to the various gentle-
men engaged in the Colonial department that
the fullest and fairest information should be
furnished to the Committee and the House of Com-
mons.—(Hear, hear.) Such 'was the statement he
had to offer to their Lordships in reference to this
charge ; but before he concluded he wished to make
a few remarks personal to himself. When he first read
the charge he was greatly excited with feelings of
anger and indignation, but a little calm reflection
dispelled that anger, and he soon felt that as the
charge could in no way injure him, he had no real
cause of anger. For many years, both in this and
the other House of Parliament, he had taken an active
part in public affairs, and during that period he defied
any one to say that he had ever laid himself open to a
charge of this nature. Indeed, until recently he felt
that during thatinpteergriodity, whichheha shoulddear haveneda characterpro-
tectedfr honhoimur and
from such a charge as this, and he had yet
o
too much confidence in the justice and generosity of
his countrymen for a moment to think that they
would believe that he could ever tarnish the unsullied
honour of that name which he was proud to inherit,
and which he had received from one who was even more
distinguished than himself for strict integrity of pur-
pose and the unswerving honesty which characterised
He felt his conduct and proceeding as a public man.—(Cheers.)
ompashseionhaidnsstheaodwnof
aandgeseirrefotro hhisecaosmsaeilaonnte,
who,althoughlte
of the governors of this country,. had displayed an
ignorance and an inability, and such a total misun-
derstanding of what was necessary in a Minister,
as to make his attempts rather a matter
of pity than of anger. He thought the
House ought to mark their sense of disapprobation of
such personal attacks against public men as had been
made by the Noble Lord against him and those con-
nected with the office of which he had the honour of
being at the head.—(Hear, hear.) Such a charge
showed that one anxious to take a leading part in the
affairs of this country was so ignorant of the manner in
which those affairs ought to be carried on, as to bring
down a matter of great public policy to the miserable
ground of party personality. Although he was not
angry for himself, he had a right to say that this system
of personal attack on the motives of public servants was
one that ought to be reprobated by their Lordships and
the other House of Parliament; and this he might say
was not the only instance in which it had occurred. Two
gentlemen of unsullied character had been accused on
grounds as trivial as those upon which this charge was
founded—one of whom, Mr. Porter, had been charged
with having deliberately furnished accounts in such a
shape as to have deceived Parliament; and. the other
with having fenced with a question before a Com-
mittee for the purpose, he supposed, of deceiving them.
Such a system was full of evil and danger ; hitherto in
this country it had been our boast, and he thought our
just one, that although party politics might run high, as
in all free countries they would do, still those conflicts
had been carried on in an honourable and manly spirit,
by fair argument and discussion; and above all, they had
been free from accusations of personal motives.—(Hear,
hear.) It had been as little usual that charges of per-
sonal dishonour and fraud and deceit should be preferred
by one public man against another, as that such prac-
tices should be committed. Above all, he thought it
was almost due that a deliberate charge of violation of
a public duty, of fraud, and falsification of documents,
should not be brought against a Minister of the Crown
unless it were intended to be the foundation of some
solemn inquiry. His Noble Friend opposite had held
the office of Colonial Secretary for some years; and it had
been his (Earl Grey's) misfortune to think it a duty
to join with those who had entered into strong oppo-
tion to the poiicy of his Noble Friend ; but it never
once occurred to him, in that opposition, to charge his
Noble Friend with suppressing documents or acting un-
fairly ; and yet he would say, if a perverse ingenuity
had collated passages from speeches in " Hansard," with
extracts from volumes and blue books and dispatches of
hislNohle Friend, there would be no difficulty in making
.iut such charges. When there was a desire to make
such charges, and a readiness to believe them, there was
no great difficulty in finding the materials for them.
And again, his Noble Friend himself had been in oppo-
sition as well as in office, and then it had not been his
habit to be particularly sparing in his criticisms on
political subjects, but he would do him the justice
to say, that he never heard from him one accusation
of the kind. He would do him the justice of
saying he had always abstained from using
the " poisoned arms of personal dishonour."
He would just mention a fact which, only a few
minutes before the House assembled, he had learnt.
Their Lordships might be aware in the other house of
Parliament it was reported that, in a discussion which
took place on this very subject, a great impression was I
produced by its being asserted that his Noble Friend,
the Noble Duke on the bench behind, was the chairman
of the Jocky Club, which voted a testimonial to Lord
George Ben tinck for his zeal and perseverance in de-
tecting certain frauds in connexion with that club. It
was curious enough that it so turned out that this which
had been stated as a fact so opportunely, and made so
great an impression at the time, turned out to be no fact
at all. The records of this transaction had been care-
fully examined, and it been found that not only the
Noble Duke was not in the chair, but that he was not
present on the occasion adverted to, and that he did not
attend the meeting of the stewards of the Jockey Club
on that subject until the fund had become devoted to
one of a charitable kind. Now that was the undeniable
fact; and how easy it would be for him to say that it was
impossible for the principal actors to be ignorant of this,
and that they took the chance of the ignorance of their
audience.—(Hear, hear.) How easy it would be for
him to insinuate that this was a falsehood;' but he dis-
dained to do so. He believed that in the excitement of
the moment those who made the assertion thought it to
oe true; but how much care ought they to use in
charging falsehood upon others? He believed it was
impossible, with the tone of feeling which existed in this
country, that any Minister of the Crown should be
guilty of such conduct as had been imputed to him.
Every gentleman in his own department would refuse to
assist or bear him out in any such iniquitous proceeding.
But if these accusations were to be bandied about from
one to another, if such things were to be talked of as pos-
sible to be done, then would they be believed, and one of
toile greatest guards of the purity of the administration
maintain the conduct of public men was of the deepest
affairs of
importance. How much of the moral strength of our
institutions,th ethis country would be destroyed. To
mach of the power of government in
this country, dependediow nn
on the general belief of the
people of this country
and honourably
conducted
that the public business was fairly
different
the t opinioncalamities Wanads oo
onthe IHe thought we had had an
awful warning htlier side of the Channel of the
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man thatt
edenffosueuebettsd thatedesfinaced February in Fran, all the fearful events
affln
which had startled and alarmed the whole of Europe,
were in a great measure to be attributed to the impres-
sion—whether justly or unjustly entertained he did not
say—which certain unfortunatoevents and disclosures had
produced on the public mind of France, that there was
something corrupt in the management of the public
affairs, and in those who conducted them? Public con-
fidence in public men had been destroyed in thatbcyoutnhteriyr
before the revolution—(Hear)—and he would ask their
Lordships if it was not practically reprobated
Lordships, and condemned by the public, to
introduce
into debates of political subjects these attacks on the
characters of public men?—(Hear, hear.) Such a
system could not go on long; if it did, the characters of
public men generally, on both sides of the House, would
be lowered and degraded. He hoped he had executed
his task in the manner in which he most earnestly de-
sired to do, and had succeeded in avoiding the use of
those expressions or uttering any of those personalities
which he had condemned. The Noble Earl concluded
by moving for the papers, and sat down amidst loud
cheers.

Lord STANLEY said that although he could not
wonder that the Noble Earl should wish to take the
earliest opportunity of vindicating himself, he regretted
that he should have felt the necessity of making some of
the statements that he had made, because the debate so
introduced was irregular; and in the next place, in
vindicating the character of his Noble and Hon. Friend
elsewhere, it placed him (Lord Stanley) in the position
of being the accuser of the Noble Earl and the de-
partment to which he belonged. He believed the
Noble Earl to be a man of the highest honour and in-
tegrity, but at the same time the Noble Lord who had
been attacked by the Noble Earl was also a man of
unsullied honour.—(Hear.) He did not see why the
Noble Earl should have alluded to France, and he re-
gretted that he had done so; but he was still more
sorry that he had alluded to the pursuits of the Noble
Lord whom he had attacked. He was glad, however, to
bear testimony to the high honour of his Noble Friend,
and to say that nothing base or sordid was analogous to
t►ta pursuits of his Noble Friend.—(Hear.) The Noble
Duke who had been alluded to was engaged in the
same pursuits, and had borne testimony to the conduct
of his Noble Friend, who, by great personal exertion
and expense, bad exposed and destroyed a disgraceful