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London, England, 1846-08-10 00:00:00

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LONDON. MONDAY. AUGUST 10, 1846.

We allude to the Fisheries (Ireland) Bill and the
Exclusive Privilege of Trading Abolition (Ireland)
Bill. Some such facilities for expediting the opera-

tions of the Legislature were absolutely necessary, so
as to prorogue the Parliament within reasonable
limits, and to preserve the RUSSELL Administration
from being involved in a terrible accumulation of
measures on the opening of the succeeding session.
Every one recognises this fact, and perceives
that some concession is requisite, if the conve-
nience of Parliament collectively and individually is
to be consulted. The residue of the questions still un-
settled, and not expressly postponed to a future
period, will, therefore, be submitted, in quick suc-
cession, to the decision of our rulers. Among those
of the most interest we may particularise the pro-
posed reduction of the duties upon rum—a reduction
of sixpence upon the present duty of 9s. 4d.,
leaving a duty of Bs. 10d. upon every gallon of
that spirit. This proposition is to be introduced
immediately by the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER,
and, although we are somewhat enrprised at the
mincing character of the reduction, we are still dis-
posed to welcome it as a step—a diminutive one, no
doubt--in the right direction.
A vast number of questions intimately connected
with the moral welfare, the sanatory condition, and
the systematic education of the people, will be re-
served by the Ministry for the next session. The
question of amelioration to Ireland will, in like
manner, be left in abeyance. We are inclined to
congratulate the country upon this delay, however
irksome it may at first appear, because every matter
will thereby be thoroughly digested before any defi-
nite plan of reformation be submitted to the Legis-
lative Councils.

On Saturday we commented upon the first part of
the new regulations with respect to corporal punish
ment henceforth to be adopted in the army ; and
while we expressed our uncompromising hostility to
the lash, and our deep regret that, the principle, even
in its modified form, should still be maintained in
the service, we offered suggestions which might pos-

sibly not be objected to by the conscientious sup
porters of the practice, and which might mitigate
some few of the numerous objections to it. A
more pleasing duty now devolves upon us in no-
ticing the means proposed to be adopted for the pre-
servation of military discipline, and which, if found
adequate for that purpose, may eventually lead to
the total abolition of flogging.
Toe Premier states that we can only hope to attain
this great object by two modes : first, by the substi-
tution of some other punishment which is as effective,
and which will maintain as high and complete a state
of discipline as that which exists at the present time ;
and secondly, by changing the moral feelings of those
who belong to the army, so that other punishments,
and other methods of government, will have a greater
effect and produce a stronger impression than they
do in the present state of the military service.
The principal of these substituted punishments
will be found to consist of a proper and well-regu-
lated system of imprisonment, with its various ad-
juncts of solitary confinement, hard labour, &c., &c.
To render this efficient, it must be perfectly executed
and instantly applied : the common and usual public
gaol will not be so advantageous in this respect as a
military prison, tenanted by soldiers alone, and pre-
pared for their reception exclusively. A large pro-
portion of military crime, although demanding and
receiving a severe punishment, may be wholly un-
attended with moral guilt, and it would manifestly
be most injurious to expose a man as yet untainted
with crime to the pollution of daily intercourse with,
and the probability of contamination by, the aban-
doned and profligate characters who are the constant
inmates of the public gaols. There are now nine
military prisons already established in the United
Kingdom, viz., four in England, four in Ireland, and
one in Scotland ; and for their good effect it is un-
necessary to seek any testimony beyond
that of the Secretary-at-War, who while
advocating the necessity for the continuance
of corporal punishments, produced one of the strong-
est
arguments against that necessity, when he stated,
" that out of 4,276 prisoners confined in these military
prisons, there were only 20 cases in which it was
found necessary to inflict corporal punishment, the
highest being 100, and the lowest 24 lashes, and of
recommittals to prison the number had only been in
the proportion of three per cent. ; and he had it upon
the authority of several military officers to state that
they had received their men back from prison better
men, and better soldiers, than when they left." If
this be the truth, and we cannot doubt it, what an
extraordinary improvement must this be on the old
system. It is a well-known fact that, in 19 cases
out of 20, the man who has been degraded in the
sight of his comrades, who has been tied up, and had
inflicted on him the indelible marks of his disgrace,
has never regained his lost character, has become a
reckless, good-for-nothing soldier, indulging in the
most vicious habits and propensities, and generally
[ suffering a repetition of the punishment over
and over again. Now, if the object of
punishment is the prevention of crime and
the amendment of the offender, as we have ever

On Wednesday next, according to one of the arbi•
trary regulations of sport; grouse shooting will com-
mence; on Saturday last the Sugar Duties' Bill was
passed through the Commons House of Parliament.
This evening the measure will be introduced to our
legislative aristocracy; their decision is already more
than conjectured by the community; the protectionist
opposition has announced its determination not to
thrust itself in the way of the somewhat dangerous
scythed-chariot of free trade. Little better than a
week now remains of perhaps the most memorable
session of the British Legislature—a session that has
witnessed the annihilation of a potent monopoly and
the championship ofits previously helpless victims; that
has established that empire of untrammelled commerce
which had for centuries been regarded as little less
chimerical and impossible thaniaAro's Republic, Sir
THOMAS MORE'S Utopia, Sir PHILIP SYDNEY'S
Arcadia, or Lord BACON'S Atalantis. Besides this,
the session of 1846 will be ever illustrious and ever
beneficial to the population of the United Kingdom by
being an example to arouse the interest and excite the
emulation of the remotest posterity. It will be an
example of the real nature of political consistency, of
the innate dignity of forbearance under vituperation,
of that forgetfulness-of-self, which is the noblest
characteristic of a true and patriotic statesman, of
the necessity of being open to conviction and of risk-
ing the malignity of a disappointed faction when-
ever reason and experience combined to direct
the mind upon a better and more enlightened policy.
This Parliamentary campaign will, moreover, attest
to after generations the period in which the people
of England first recognised the moral potency of
their will, the period when our legislators were not
ashamed to confess that the popular sentiments had
modulated their prejudices ; when the oratory of a
self-elected association and the rhetorical pleadings of
a free press enlarged the mind of the public for the
reception of gigantic principles ; when the seeds
sown by Sir WALTER RALEIGH, ADAM SMITH, Lord
HOLLAND, and others, were ripened under the
auspices of Sir ROBERT PEEL, RICHARD COBDEN,
and Lord JOHN RUSSELL. It will be the most me-
morable lesson ever given to mankind for their
guidance in commercial legislation.
It was customary on the opening of this session to
ridicule the Parliament for its redundant squabbles,
and the Ministry for its intolerable procrastination.
The Easter holidays had arrived before anything de-
finite had been done towards the settlement of the
enormous question at issue. People began to tremble
lest the Parliament should degenerate from an active
assembly of legislators into a mere counterpart of a
Chancery-lane debating, society. That tendency,
however, towards speechifying gradually disappeared ;
the flame of passion, which had ignited the mental
lamps of so many hitherto silent Members)
in time consumed itself and glimmered away
into the socket. The gentlemen who had so
recently practised rhetoric from below the gang-
way, were now incontinently devouring but-
tered bread and whitebait at Blackwell, or investi-
gating widgeon pies at Goodwood. The deliberative
assembly of the nation was suddenly relieved of a tur•
bulent and intractable party of representatives, and
the immediate consequence of the alteration was a
material improvement in the conduct of public busi-
ness. As the commencement of this session was re-
markable for its slowness in arriving at any decision,
its termination will be, and indeed has already been,
conspicuous for the rapidity, and yet the decorum,
with which Bills are introduced and accepted. Not only
did the Sugar D utiesl Bill obtain the final sanction of the
Commons on Saturday, but two other Bills of very
considerable importance were successively read a
third time and passed without a dissentient voice,

supposed it to be, and not vengeance, surely the
system which makes him a better man and a better
soldier, and in which the instances of second punish-
ments are but three per cent. on their entire, must
be far better and more efficacious than that which
ruins his prospects and makes him a disgrace and a
reproach to the service, and destroys the probability,
almost the possibility, of amendment. Forfeiture of
pay and pension, increased drill, confinement to bar-
racks, and a variety of minor punishments within the
power of a commanding officer, might be most ad-
vantageously resorted to, and would probably be
found, in the majority of cases, quite sufficient for
the preservation of discipline. There is one mode of
punishment, however, so singular and ludicrous in its
nature, that we would be unwilling to mention it
were it not so strongly supported by one of the
brightest ornaments of our country, whose intelli-
gence, foresight, and sagacity in peace have been no
less remarkable than his services in war have been
brilliant and glorious—who long since stood forward
as the zealous and efficient advocate of his
brother soldiers—who vindicated their characters from

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the reproaches with which they were assailed--who
has ever ably opposed the assertion that the British
soldier is of an "inferior class" in his country and
less respectable in his character than the conscript;
the unwilling soldier of other nations, and who in
that feeling has most ably advocated the total aboli-
tion of flogging in time of peace, and the substitution
of other and less objectionable punishments, while
his reputation as an officer and strict maintainer of
discipline (though not by the intervention of the cat),
renders superfluous his assertion, that "If he thought
diminished severity of punishment would produce
slackness of discipline, he assuredly would not be the
advocate of change." We allude to the hero of
Aleeanee and Hyderabad, Sir CHARLES J. NAPIER,
who, in his admirable work on military law and
flogging, p. 177, suggests the adoption of blistering
the back as a punishment for drunkenness, the ter-
rible vice from which nearly all military offences
have their origin. He states that in the only two in-
stanccs in which it was tried it fully and entirely
succeeded : in one case the regiment had been in an
infamous state—it had been in a distant
colony." They had just returned to Guernsey; the
cheapness of liquor made the soldiers drink hard;
" the flogging was dreadful, and, as usual, without
effect. A new lieutenant-colonel joined. He did
not inflict a single lash, and in three months the in-
specting general officer returned the highest report of
the state of the corps. The means that produced
this extraordinary change were sending the drunkard
to hospital, where he was put to bed, his back blis-
tered, and himself fed on bread and water for a week,
and then discharged cured ; Ms comrades laughed at
and ridiculed, in place of sympathising with and
pitying him, and the effect was complete ; and the
Gallant General well exclaims, " after witnessing
this can I believe the lash to be necessary ?" After
this strong testimony, surely it would be worth re-
peating the experiment.
Everything that tends to the second mode by which
corporal punishment may be abolished, viz,, the im-
provement of the moral condition of the soldier, and
inducing him thereby to the maintenance of a better
and more orderly behaviou, will be hailed with the
greatest delight : in this respect the statement of the
Premier is very gratifying. His Lordship announces
that rewards have been established for good conduct,

and also increased pay after a certain number of t average, 32,742 per month. This number exceeds 1
years ; that since December last no less than thirty by 4,887 the circulation between Orleans and Tours
commissions have been given to private soldiers in previous to the establishment of the railway, which,
the army, and also sums furnished them for the out- on an average, was only 27,855 monthly. The move-
lay necessary on the acceptance of those commis- ment of merchandise during the same period rose to
sions; 100 soldiers' libraries have been established, 38,341 f. in May, to 71,525 f. in June, and to 78,340 f
containing 60,000 volumes, and a normal school is in July.
projected, for the purpose of providing good regimen- Toe Three per Cents. closed at 83f. 75c. ; the Five
per Cents., 1221. 45c.; the Orleans Railroad Shares, 1 277 f
tel schools ; savings banks are now encouraged in
50c. ; Rouen, 9671. 50c.; Havre, 7101.; Great Northern,
'
several regiments, in place of being discouraged and 71,15 f.; AvigTon, 9071. 50c.; Vieszor, 6351. ; Bordaaux, 5751.;
a•
aannddp‘t,oi Strasburg, tm,f.55002.1.. Ei%.l;,3TaouudrsA andl
oAvignon, Nantes,
49 5101.8 r ;
sneered at, as was formerly the case ; and his Lord-
ship bears the strongest testimony as to the good deaux and Cette, 480 t: ;* 'Spanish Actives,lg 34y8 ; Spanish
per Cents., 361 h ; Spanish Pas ives, 6.
effects of a plan originally suggested by himself when
Tatefsozllowing are the quotations for new lines:—
m R
at the head of the establishment at Chelsea, viz., the ILLES, Ants. 4.—Marseilles and Avignon, 835 f.;
allotment of small gardens to the men, in the cul- Northern, 6951.
tivation of which they took the greatest delight, and 251; vopNas,,isAannod. 6.—Northern,l27 17f 020. f.; Paris and Lyons, 506 f.
itu; slls-Ess DON Orleans,lN FOREIGN:RAILWAYS AT THE
from which they derived some small profit, who before
that time had been constantly in public-houses. The LONDON STOCK EXCHANGE, AUGUST 8.
Boulogne and Amiens, 121,4 Bordeaux and Mediterranean, l
proposal was, as usual, sneered at by those who Bordeaux, Toulouse, and CLtte (Espelet e), I%—butch Rhenish, '
3146%
lEty -Gr at Indian reninselar, % -- Great Western Ben
thought that no useful suggestion for military —East
uxembourg, 2—N altur and Liege, 2%—Orleans and Vier-
government could come from a civilian, and zon, 1-I;Y—Orleans and Bordeaux, B;',—Paris and Lyons Constituted,
s%—Sambre and Meuse, 4 lA.
yet it proved eminently successful. Can there be a
more powerful evidence fur the advantage, the ne-
cessity of teaching the soldiers some trade, of pro-
viding some employment on which they may usefully
employ their leisure hours ? The principle of reward
must be put into activity in a wise and generous
manner, and its good effects will speedily be apparent.
There are many, very many improvements, all of
which would greatly conduce to the same end, but
which our space to-day forbids a mention of ; many,
however, will be found in the valuable work to which
we have already referred, which may be studied with
the greatest advantage by every philanthropist, by
every man desirous of doing justice to his military
brethren.

Accounts received in Engand from Constantinople
of the 22d ult., state that MEHEMET ALI has been
treated with marked respect by the SULTAN. The
Journal des Deb,:ts, however, pullshes a letter from
Constantinople of the same date, which represents the
reception of 21EunmET Am as cold in the extreme,
and concludes by saying that no one can explain the
reason for the SULTAN inflicting such humiliation on
his illustrious vassal.

The Piedmontese Gazette, of the Ist, says, " By a
courier arrived from Rome, we receive the important
news of the official nomination of Cardinal Gizzi as
Secretary of State both for Foreign Affairs and the
Interior. Monsignors SANTUCCI and CANELLA will
act as Under-Secretaries of the respective aciministra-

AMWAY COMMITTEES.

(TIIIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

Room C.
OLDIIIIIVI, LIVERPOOL, MANCHESTER,

AND BEEM.ENHEAD a-UNCTION.

Mr. Lowe, cross-examined by Mr. MERRIVALE, on behalf of the
Rochdale Canal Company —(A model of the Rochdale Canal Company
station at Manchester was produced, showing the course of the pro-
posed line through this property, and the severance of the variouS
warehouses and other buildings belonging to the Co npany)—The
proposed railway would take about 1,400 square yards of the laud
belonging to the Company.
Re-examined by Mr. Sergeant Waawcusm—The ground ac-
tually covered by the proposed railway would be• only that
upon which the piers of the arches would stand, and
would not exceed more than 304 yards. The property
which the proposed railway would take was not in the occupation of
the Company itself, one portion of it was rented by Mr. Jackson,
another by Mr. Hare. There would be no difficulty whatever in
crossing the exi=ting tunnel on the Manchester and Leeds Railway
by means of another tunnel. By the standing orders they could raise
their levels five feet, and even without doing so they could cross by
the present levels in such a manner as not only not to injure the
existing tunnel, but materially to benefit it, both by relieving it of
the present superabundant weight of earthwork, and also giving it a
much better ventilation by means of the open work upon which the
rails would be lad, and the shaft which would be sunk at the pro-
posed junction of the two tunnels, thereby creating an additional
current 01 air.

By the Earl of Wicstow—The proposed line was on an embank.

inent near the Hollingworth colliery. It did not communicate directly
wi: h it, but a short siding could very easily be made to connect them
with the railway.
Mr. 11,iwkins, agent to the Hollingworth colliery, was then called
by Mr. Sergeant WILANGHAm—IIe said that two of the owners of
these collieries were directors of this railway, and that they would
be glad to form the connecting branch. The distance between the
pits and the line would be about ninety yards.
Cross-examined by Mr. liii.Dyeao—The branch to connect the line
with the collieries would be upon an embankment, and might pro-
bably Form a fork, one branch of which would be towards Man-
chester, and the other towards Oldham.
Mr. Bateman, C.E., of Manchester, was then examined—He had
gone ,4ver the whole of the line, and thought that the estimates were
amply suflicient, and that the construction of the line would be a
great public Convenience, and that it would prove a remunerative line.

BIDEFORD AND TAVISTOCK
RAILWAY.—(THIS DAY.)
An adjourned meeting of the shareholders of this Com-
pany took place this day, at No. 44, Finsbury-circus. for
the purpose of registering a sufficient quantity of shares to
decide whether the affairs of the Company should be wound
up, and whether such dissolution should be taken as an act
of bankruptcy on the part of the Company, or whether it
should be performed through the agency of the directors.
Mr. Brown took the chair.
The CHAIRMAN briefly explained the reason why the
shareholders had been summoned, and the polling commenced.
It may not be improper to observe that, although the
requisite number of shares have not as yet been regis •
tered, there has not been a dissentient to the
resolution that the Company should be dissolved, and
that such dissolution should not be estimated as an act of
bankruptcy. By the prospectus it was provided that the
number of shares should consist of 26,000, at 251. per share ;
20,000 of these have been allotted, and upon 18,600 shares
11. 7s. Gd. per share has been paid. The Company intend re-
turning 10s. per share.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(I HIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF cO3INTONS.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock, when
Lord ROBERT GROSVENOR, being introduced by Lnrd
Marcus Hill and the Attorney-General, took the oaths and his
seat for Chester.

BATTERSEA PARK.

The Bill far this undertaking was read a third time and passed.

GAUGE OF RAILWAYS BILL.

This Bill was read a third time and passed.
THIRD READINGS.

The following Bills were also read a third time:—Bishop of
Jerusalem's Naturalization Bill—Bishop of Norwich (North
Llynn Rectory) Estate Bill—Borthwick s Estate Bill—Clark's
Divorce Bill—Lowestoft Charity Estate Bill—Matthyssens'
Divorce Bill—Pemberton's (or Gervies) Estate BilL

DRAINAGE OF LAND.
Mr. GREENE brought up the report on this Bill.
&TA-NLING ORDERS-

Mr. HUAIE rose to move Yheres;l7;tions, of which he had
given noticl, for the amendment of the standing orders, which
are to the tu!lowing effect :

" 1. That public general Acts should be prepared for each
of the several subjects of police and watching, of waterworks
and sewage, of paving, of improvement of towns and regulation
of buildings, streets, and roads, of markets and fairs, of
cemeteries, of bridges and ferries, of harbours, docks, ports,
piers and quays, of canals, rivers, and navigation, as recom-
minded in the report of the Select Committee on Private Bills,
embodying, as far as possible, the suggestions thereof.
" 2. That, as recommended in the said report, provision
should be made in the preparation of these -public general
Acts, by which parties, desiring to avail themselves of them,
be afforded the means of carrying their projects into execution
under the authority and supervision of one of the public
boards or departments, without the necessity of applying to
Parliament, on a principle similar to that which has been
already carried into effect by the Act 3 and 4 Will. 4, c. 90,
fur Lighting Towns in England; by the Act 9 Geo. 4, c. 82,
for Lighting Towns, &c. in Ireland; and by the Act 3 and 4
Will. 4, c. 46, for Police in Scotland.
"3. That with the view of an immediate saving of time and
expense in the proof of standing orders, in the ensuing session
of Parliament, the proof of standing orders, now taken before
the Sub-Committees, shall be taken before an officer or officers,
to be appointed by Mr. Speaker, and such officer shall com-
mence his sittings for that purpose on the Ist day of January,
1847.

" 4. That the standing orders of the House should be im-
mediately revised, as regards the proof of the standing orders
for private Bills to be given before such officers appointed by
Mr. Speaker.
"5. That it would be productive of great advantage in private.
legislation, if the standing orders of the two Houses of Par-
liament, relating to private Bills, could be assimilated.
"6. That when any city, borough, parish, company, or
other parties, invested with the powers, or acting under the
provisions of any existing local Act or Acts, shall apply to
Parliament for a new Bill for new and amended powers and
provisions, with reference to the same matters, it shall be im-
perative on the promoters to send their new Bill, together
with all previous existing Acts then in force on the same sub-
ject witiiin the Olt), borough, parish, or district, to the Board
of Trade, which shall report to the House whether, in their
opinion, the new Bill should be allowed to proceed, or whether
all the existing Acts should be repealed, and the powers and
provisions of such repealed Acts, together with the new or
amended powers and provisions sought fur, should be conso-
lidated, to the intent that only one local Act shall he in force at
the same time, in the same place, with reference to the same
object.
" 7. That after the next session of Parliament no private
Bill for power to establish waterworks and sewage, police
and watching, improvement of a town, &c., shall be introduced
into this House until the public board or department, to which
the class of Bills to which it belongs has been referred, shall, as
recommended in the said report, have ma•;e a previous local
examination by competent and responsible insp ctors and public
officers, at the expense of the promoters of the Bill, in a mode
analogous to that adopted by the Tithe, the Inclosure Com-
missions, &c., and that these public boards should be empow-
ered to appoint, and employ such public inspectors and public
officers.

"8. That the recommendation in the said report, as to the
taxation of the costs of parties promoting or opposing private
Bills, be also adopted ; and that a proper taxing officer should
be appointed, and a scale of fees, costs, and charges be autho-
rised and published by Air. Speaker.

9. That the taxing officer shall present to the House, at the
commencement of each session, an account of the total amount
of the expenses for promoting or opposing each Bill taxed and
sanctioned by him during the preceding session, distinguishing
the amount paid as fees on each Bill to each of the Houses of
Parliament, the amount for witnesses and other expenses, and
for professional services."
The adoption of these resolutions would have the effect of
eradicating the great evil of the delay of business which was
now so grievously felt, and which by the mass of private busi-
ness that was brought before the House was become insuffer-
able. It would also have the effect of saving the time of no
less than fifty Members during the whole period of the session.
During the present session it bad frequently occurred that as.
many as two hundred witnesses had frequently been examined
on one private Bill. Since the Union, not less than 9,400
private Bills had been passed by Parliament, while the public
Bills amounted to only 5,300. Now, according to the present
system, many places were saddled with insufficient and expen-
sive local Acts for a number of years. By taking the plan pro.
posed by those resolutions the evil would be remedied. Many
of these—indeed most of those Bills called private Bills—were in
fact public Bill, as much as those which were called so. He
would refer all the Bills to some responsible department of
Government, so as to save the expense and the trouble from
every Bill piling before a Committee of Standing Orders.lH, e
would also propose that the orders of both Houses of P _..
merit should be assimilated. There was a Committee of the
other House now sitting, and he was quite sure that every
willingness would be shown to meet their Lordships' views, and
thus the once proving of compliance with the standing orders
would he sufficient. Another object lie had to serve was the
saying
number tof localhat confusion whichone place He f
posed
arose rom there bein a
pr that whg en
any corporate body applied.
for
an Act of Parliament that they
should be obliged, in tn
of
et instance, to make their
application to the Board Trade, by whom the merits
of the case should be investigated, and if they thought
it necessary such corporate
.body should be compiled to
consolidate all their previous Bills, so that there should bo only
one
Bill for one object for each particular place; thus there
should be only one Police Bill, one Water-rate Bill, or one
other Bill for any one place. The next object was to save the
expense to clients who applied for Acts. This was the only
tribunal in the country without a taxing officer, and he would
have such an officer appointed, whose business it should be to
ascertain what the fair and necessary charges should be
Again, he would have all the Bills drawn in one particular'
form, se as to seem e uniformity and save the money of the ap-
plicants. He had alluded to all the points because he did not
expect to speak of them again. He would conclude by moving
the first resolution.

Lord EBRINGTON seconded the motion.
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET objected to the whole
of these resolutions being carried at once, and to the weight
of the Government being brought to bear on them.
Sir GEORGE GREY could net agree to what had just
fallen from the Noble Lord. Although be wou'd net give his
approval of the whole of them, he did not object to the two
first.
The resolution was then► carried.

On the second resolution being read,
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET objected also to this re-
solution as being likely to give excessive power to the several
departments of the Government, and also in some instances to
local authorities.

Sir GEORGE GREY could not assent to this view of the I
case, for he conceived that in the country all local Acts would
be proposed and considered in public vestries, and they would
therefore have the sanction of the inhabitants generally.
Mr. ET N%:ALL conceived that the object of the Hon.
Member for Montrose (Mr Hume) was to save expense, and
that he would refer all his Bills to the several departments of
the Government under whose cognizance they would fall,
if the object was not to be carried out by a Biil. This, he
thought, would prove expensive.
Mr. HUME was quite ready to restrict the extent of the
meaning of the resolution, by striking out the parentheAs
which would have the effect of keeping the public business to
two departments--the Admiralty and another, beside the
Beard of Trade.

Lord G. SOMERSET conceived this would have the effect
of giving Government the power to tax the public locally, which
was a proceeding he would decidedly oppose.
Lord EBRINTON thought, that, as he had been on the
Committee which proposed the resolutions, he might state, that
wherever feasible, all the local Acts should be modelled in some
general Act.
Mr. HUME explained that wherever a local Act was re-
quired, it was intended to send down a Commis=ioner to the
place requiring it, and if he ascertained that two-thirds of the
inhabitants were favourable that they should have the advan-
taze of Parliamentary aid without the mischief of an expensive
contest. The general Act on which they proposed to base
these Acts was the 3 and 4 W. IV. c. 19.
After a few words from Lord MORPETH, indicating his ap-
prehension of the phraseology of the resolution,
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that, however evident might be

the intention of the sentence, it was not sufficiently expressed,
and he would suggest that the whole of the resolutions be with-
drawn for a day or two, to be made more perfect, as the House
was evidently favourable to their object.
Mr. HUME referred the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Duncombe)
to the report of the Committee, which specified the course to be
adopted with respect to these local Bills. The cautious course
pointed out would prevent any of the evils which the Hon.
Gentleman anticipated would arise under the resolution.
Atter a short discussion,

Mr. HUME consented to withdraw No. 2, on the ground of
its being virtually included in the first, and it was withdrawn
accordingly.
The third resolution being proposed,
Sir GEORGE GREY said it was framed in exact accord-
ance with the reports of the Standing Orders' Committees of
both Houses of Parliament, and would, in his opinion, obviate
much expense and inconvenience, in addition to saving the
time of a number of Members of Parliament, because the duties
now assigned to them, and from which they suffered much in-
c,nvenience, would be performed by a competent officer, or
officers.

Lord G. SOMERSET agreed with the resolution, but con-
sidered that the Ist of February would be preferable to the Ist
of July.
Mr. HUME had intended to have left out the month at

which the officer should commence his labours, but he inserted
July at the with of an Hon. Member. lie had no objection
to leave out the month, and to leave the time the officer should
commence his labours to be named by the Speaker.
The resolution so amended was then agree:) to.
The fourth resolution was next proposed, and, after a short
di,cussion, agreed to.
No. 5 was agreed to.
. _

Noe. 6 and 7 were next proposed.
Lord MO:I PETH said that he thought that no Bill for
waterworks should be proposed or brought forward next ses-
sion unless proper notice were given to the Board of Trade, in
order that patties might be sent to see the place and report to
the Committee on the Bill. He should propose to introduce a
Bill to that effect.

Mr. FIUME consented, under those circumstances, to
withdraw resolution No. 7.

Resolution No. 6 was then agreed to.
On resolution No. 8 being proposed,
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET thought that this reso-
lution, if carried, would lead to much confusion and trouble.
If the taxing officer were to tax all costs incurred before Par-
liamentary Committees, it would be necessary to go much more
into detail with regard to his functions.
Sir G. GREY said he thought that the duties of the
officer were not sufficiently specified, and he thought that the
Hon. Member had better withdraw it, in order that an Act,
which might go more into details„,rnight be brought in.
l‘lr. HUME said if the Right Hon. Baronet would promise
to bring forward any more specific measure, and promise to
give the matter his consideration, he was content to leave the
management of it in the hands of Government.
Sir G. GREY intimated that no legislation on the
subject could take place this session.
Mr. HUME said that he did not:expect it.
After some further conversation,
Mr. FIUME consented to withdraw the resolutions 8 and 9,
on the understanding that the subject should come under the
consideration of the House at an early period next session.
(LEFT SITTING.)

MONEY and COMMERCIAL NEWS
, CITY QUARTER TO THREE.
_ _

The sales of Cotton at Liverpool on Saturday were nearly
4,000 bales. The market had a quiet appearance, but prices
were firmly supported. Shares were rather lower.
The only Colonial arrival to-day is from Port Philip. The
system of leasing land by the Government was still brought
forward as a grievance, and the settlers had held another
meeting on the subject. In its pastoral pursuits Port Philip
was progressing well,
Matters in the City continue to wear rather a dull appear-
ance, but the consumption of all the leading staples is upon
the whole satisfactory. The employment furnished by rail-
ways is expected to be all powerful in this respect, because it
gives to the working classes the opportunit of increased
enjoyment. The large number of railway Bills passed this
session, however, necessarily excites the attention of reflect-
inir men, and a careful consideration of the probable con-
sequences to the money market. We think, however, that
during the present year the calls will not be particular
heavy or inconvenient. It is next year that the works will
be more actively prosecuted, unless the Legislature steps iu,
and allows of more time for their accomplishment. A 3 to
the directors, they are, in the majority of instances, too
deeply interested to desire rapid calls.
There has been rather a flat market again for the Public
Securities, to which no doubt the considerations above
adverted to give some incentive. A few sales
have been pressed, and there seems to be a
slightly increased demand for money, Exchequer-bills
being down to Bs. and 6s. premium. Consols have
been 95% % for present transfer, and 95% to
96 for Account. The New Three-and-a-Quarter per Cents.
have realised 9734 to 98, and the Three per Cents. 96% to
1/1. Bank Stock has alternated from 208% to 209%, and
East India Stock has been dull at 260. India Bonds are 15s.
to 16s. premium.
The Foreign Investments participate in the flatness
of our own Fund,. Spanish Five per Cents. have
been 254 to 25g. The Three per Cents. are ra-
ther better, viz. 36h to 36i. Portuguese Four per
Cents. have been 39 to 40%. Mexican Stock is quoted 23V,
to 24 ; and Grenada 21. Belgian Four and a Half per Cents.
have realised 9734 ; and Dutch Two-and-a-Half per Cents.
59% to 60. The Mexican Government seems disposed,
according to accounts received by the Committee, to make
some decided exertion to keep up its remittances to the
bondholders.

Shares have receded in most cases, the inclination to do
business being less apparent than last week.
BRITISH FUNDS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
(From the Official List.)

Bank Stock .• .. • . 209% 203% 209
Three per Cent. Reduced Annuities • . 96l %
Three per Cent. Consols Annuities .. 95% %
New Three-and-a-Quarter per Cent. Anus. 97% 98 97%
Lon; Annuities, Expire Jan. 5, 1860 .. 10 7-16
India Stock .. .. 260
India Bonds, 1,000/. .. ..
Ditto, under 1,000/. . . • • • 16 15
Bank Stock for Account • • •• .. 210
Consols for Account • • .. • • .. . • 96 95%
Excl.equer Bills. I%d. I%d.
1,000/. .. .... 8 6 pm.
5001. .. •• • • 6 9 pm.
Ditto, Small
PRICES OF FOREIGN FUNDS AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Granada, I per Cent. .. •• 21
Mexican Bonds, 1837, 5 per Cent .. 24 23%
Ditto, tor the Account •23%
Portuguese Four per Cent ..
for the Account .. 39 40%
Spanish Bonds, 5 per Cent. • • ••
Ditto, for the Account • • • • 25%
Ditto, Three per Cent .. • • • • 36%
Dividends on the above payable in London.
Belgian Four-and-a-Half per Cent. 974 i
Dutch Two-and-a-Half per Cents. 5'.i% 60 59%
Ditto, 4 per Cent. Certificates .. 94

BUSINESS DONE IN RAILWAY SHARES AT ONE O'CLOCK
RAILWAYS. PAID. PER SHARE.
Aberdeen •• •• •• •• •• 15 ..•• 10 .. •• to 9%
Amber.,Notting.,Boston,&EastrnJn. 2%....2 17/8 2% to 1%
Birmingham and Oxford Junction .• 2 ..•• 7 ide to
Iluckinghanishire •• 425. •... 13 ais. to

Caledonian .. . • • • •. 20 15 .. to
Ditto Halt" Shares .. .• 2% 1%.... to
Cornwall 5 tAi to
Cot nwall and Central Deron 2%,.... 1% .... to
Direct Manchester (Remington's) • • 2% •• • • %••.. to
Direct Northern .. 2%.... 2 .. • • to 1%
Eastern Counties • • • 14/. Its. 0d... • • 23%14 to
Ditto, New .. 10/. Its, •• 7 7i14, pto
Ditto, York Extension 10c •• • . 2% • to
Edinburgh and Glasgow .. 50 ••.. to

Ditto, Halt Shares .• .. • • • • 10 .• .. 18 .... to 17%
Edinburgh and Northern .• .. 10 .. • • 11 • • to 1 o
Ely and Huntingdon . .. • • • • 7% 512 .. ••to
Greiit Southern and Western (Ireland) 25 .. • • 29 •• •• to
Great Western .. 85 ....149 •••• to

Ditto, Quarter Shares .. .. .. 10 .... 21 .• .. io 22
Ditto, Fifths - • • .„ - • • 20 .. • 33 .... to -
Guildford, Fareliam, and Portsmouth 5 •• • • 5%4.. to -
Hull and Selby - • .. .. .. ~ 50 - -107 .... to -
Ditto, Stall Shares .. .. .. .. 15 .... 39 .... to --
Lancaster and Carlisle .. •• •• 45 .• •• 65 •••• ro ......
Leedi and Bra,:ford ........26 .• • • 70_ ~'Ai;, to -
Lcicst., Tarn., Dir., & Trent Val.Junc. 425. .• • • 'Aim -., to -
Liverpool, Mauch, and Newc. Juliet. 2% •• •• 05i23 to 226
London and Birmingham .. .. ..100.. • • 2222,14 .... to -
Ditto. Quarter Shares • • • • • • 2 ..... 24,i .... to -
Ditto, Fifths .. • , . ....
• • • • • • • 2 .... - •••• to -
London and Blackwall .. 161. 133. 4.
... 4% .. - to -
.. • • • • " :: 50 ....
.65y, • • .. to 64%
Ditto, New
to,-
Lo.don and Ltrlghton • • •
.....,. 15, 90. _ ~ 231, „ „ to
__........2,
London and Croydon • • • • 1,,,
4y., 6j.,.102d1.4 ........ 726111
%...... ttoo
___
.. 15 . .. 12 ,"2 ....
Loudon
and
ad
YS:rukth-We::tern.:
..
Lyni. and Dereliam • • ... .
..
82 •-•- •••• to
Manchester and Leeds
..
_ I v
Ditto, Fifths • • .•
. .. 3t,
8
I 4•• •• to --
Ditto, Extension .• .• • • 42s • • /P••to 2%
51anchester and Birmingham .. • • 40 ~ ~ _
....
to --
Ditto, Quarter Shares (A) .. „ 5
' • " 15% •• •• to -
Ditto, Quarter Shares (C) • . .. 1
....
10 % .... to
Manchester, Buxton, and :Matlock - • 425. .... 11, -
Manchester and Southampton ~ ~ ~ 4 P. • to -
Midland ` •••• I//34•• to - " •• •• •• •• ••100 - ••144 .
Ditto, New .. ~ . . 24 .„ to ___
Ditto, Birmingham and Derby •• •• 37;.,.... to -
N •• 100 .• •
•• 117
ewcastle and Darlington Junction ••• 25 . •• • to -
Ditto, New
.. • .. 43!4 - •• to -
Newcastle and Berwick ••
••
1 .... 11 ii 14 to -
• • tioriolk .. -
Ditto, Half SitareS
North British •• •• •• •• 734 -•• 11 .••to -
Ditto, Half Shar
• • • • • • .. • • 25 .. • . 351 .... to 38
es •
•• ''
?.g

Shares • • 1337 to
Ditto, Carlisle Extension" 3y24 4 7 to
North Kent and Direct Dover . 1% .. to
North. Staffordshire • • • • 425• •• • • 3% pto
oxlOrd, Worcester, & Wolverhampton 12 • ... • • to
Portsmouth Direct • • • • •• .... 5 .... to
Preston and Wyro .. • . 25 .... 306 • to 37
Reading, Gulidthrd, and Reigate .. 425..... 1 dls... to
icot Usti Central .. • • • • .. .• 1`44 .... 183 i • • to
Ditto New • • • • • .• .. • 9 ••.. to
Shrewsbury and Birmingham .. . • 2% 31A.• .• to 2%
Shropshire Union . 425..... % 3,4 dis. to
South Midland 425. .• • • 14 P.. to
South Eastern and Dover • • • • •
Ditto, New, No. 4 .• • • • • •• 2% •• • • 3% • • to
South Wales .. .• • • • • •• • • 5 •• • • 4 ••• to X
Vale of Neath .. • • • • • • • • ~ •• • • , •••• to
W,lsh Midland .. • • •• • • • • ,• • • 1 .. ••to
West Riding Union .. .. •• •• 428..... 3 p.. to
West Cornwall • . • • • • • • • • 2 •• • • 1 to ...-
Wisbetteh and St. Ives •• • • •• 2 •• • • 3% •• • • to 4
Volt. and forth Midland • • • • • • 50 •• .. •• .. to

--
Ditto, Extension •• • • •• •• 20 .... 38,Ai .. ••to
Ditto East and West Riding Extension 1 .... 13% ..., to 13

FOREI(iN RAILWAYS. --
Boulogne and Amiens .. .. .. 14 .... 12-% .... to
Boni., Toulouse, & Cette (Mackenzie) 2 .... 1% .... to
Dutch Rhenish •• .• 6 .. 6% .... to
&AA 1,11.1141.1:1, •
-- •• .• bp, .• • -... t 0 "If