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LONDON, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11, 1846.

TIPa Lon") CHANcELLort took his seat on the Woolsack at
Five o'clock.

Several petitions were presented, tmoug others one by
Lord BnoucrAm, from the Marquis of WESTMEATH, COM-
ptaining of the conduct of his own tenantry, in the county of
_Roscommon, who opposed every improvement which he pro-
posed, and at the same time subscribed to the O'Coxmitn
rate, and-who set him completely at defiance in his efforts to
get rid of the cenacre system.

Lord Srouraos gave notice that he should move returns
relating to the importation of foreign corn.
On the motion that the report of the Committee on the
Irish Pacification Bill be received,
The Lonn CHANCELLOR proposed the introduction of the
amendments, which it had been arranged should be intro-
duced on the bringing up the report.
A desultory conversation ensued, in the course o f which
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE suggested that the fact of
threatening notices having been written, should give the
Lord lieutenant power to proclaim a county.

The LORD CIIANCELLOR replied that it would be unad-
visable to adopt the suggestion, inasmuch as an individual
might write hundreds of such notices for the mere purpose of
getting a county proclaimed.

who held a confidential situation in the Post-office of Ireland
previous to 1830, complaining of the course that had been
pursued towards him, and praying for inquiry.
Mr. WILLIAMS moved, pursuant to notice, for an address
for inquiry to be made into the state of education in the
principality of Wales, especially into the means afforded to
the labouring classes of acquiring the English language.
lle believed that if there had been any discretion among the
English people they would have long since planted among
them their school-master, and not kept the people of Wales
in that state of darkness which they had done. The Govern-
ment had done everything they possibly could for Ireland,
and he did not see why they should not do the same for
Wales.

Mr. Monais seconded the motion.
Sir J. GRAHAM, after paying a high eulogiunl upon Sir
J. GUEST and Sir T. PHILLIPS, for the exertions they had
made towards the education of the people of Wales, stated
that it was the intention of the Government to send two
gentlemen from the Council of Education to inquire into the
system of education in South Wales. He trusted after this
statement the lion. Member would withdraw his motion.
The motion, after a short discussion, was withdrawn.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBR then moved, pursuant to the notice he
bad given, an address to her MAJESTY, to take into her gra-
cious consideration the petitions that had been presented
praying the restoration to their native land of FnosT,
wIL-
LIAMSc, and JONES. The Hon. Member, in making the mo-
tion, presented stone two or three hundred petitions in addi•
tion to those that had already been presented. If the Right
lion. Baronet would give him an assurance that be would
take the case of these unfortunate men into his serious consi-
deration, he would not trouble the House further upon the
subject.
Sir J. GRAHAM thought it would be better for the Hon.
Member for Finsbury to make his statement, after which he
would state to the House the course the Government in-
tended to pursue.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE then at some length entered into the
case of Frost, Williams, and Jones, stating that he had no
complaint to make of the manner in which the trial had
been conducted, but he contended that the conviction had
been illegal. These parties had suffered greatly, the majesty
of the law had been vindicated, and their release ought to
follow as a matter of course.
Mr. WAKLEY seconded the motion.
Sir J. GRAHAM admitted that the petitions and memo-
rials on this subject were large in favour of the release of
these men. Ile admitted that the House had the right of
interference, but that interference ought to be exercised
with discretion. Looking at the crime of which these
parties had been convicted, he considered them fortunate in
the highest degree on having escaped with their lives. He
felt bound, therefore, to oppose the motion.
The House vas subsequently addressed by Mr. MACATILAY,
Mr. DISRAELI, Mr. S. WORTLEY, Mr. AGLIONBY, Sir R.
INGLIS, Mr. WAIMEA-, Lord J. MANNERS, Sir R. PEEL, wbo
objected to the motion, as establishing a bad precedent, and
taking
‘away the prerogative of mere" from the Crown. Mr.
M. PHILLIPS, Mr. P. HOWARD, Lord J. RUSSELL, who op-
posed the motion ; and Lord F. EGERTON, who also opposed
the motion ; after which,
Mr. DUNCOMBE replied, and the House divided, when
there appeared—for the motion, 31—against it, 196. Ma-
jority against the motion, 165.
Mr. M. PHILLIPS then moved for copies of all the reports
made by the British Minister iu Mexico in the case of Mr.
T. KLNDER.
Sir R. PEEL opposed the motion, on the ground that we
had no right to interfere with the decisions of the Mexicap,
Government.
The House was then addressed by Mr. GIBBON, Mr.
FORSTER. and Mr. SCOTT.
The motion was eventually withdrawn.
Mr. ICEWDEGATE then brought forward his motion for a
Committee on the subject of the Warwickshire Registration.
After a short discussion, a Committee was ordered to in-
quire into the subject of fraudulent registration generally.
The other business before the House was disposod of, and
the House adjourned.

It is a matter of great regret to all the friends of Ireland
that any Coercion Bill, or indeed any extraordinary legis-
lative measure, should be found necessary for that country,
while. England and Scotland are exempted from its opera-
tion. We wish to see the three countries governedby the same
laws, enjoy the same rights and privileges, and form one
free and independent kingdom under our gracious SOVEREIGN.
Unfortunately, however, Ireland has been so I•ng treated
like a conquered country, suffered so much at the hands of
British rulers and legislators, and one class has been so
urged on against another, even by parties that ought to be
alike the protectors of both, that a law which will apply to
these parts of the kingdom and be sufficient for its object will be
totally ineffective in Ireland. The Irish have been subjected
to the most cruel misgovernment of any people on the face
of the earth. 'fill very lately they were denied all the pri-
vileges of freemen ; their very priests were outlawed ; they
were treated as serfs of the lowest rank; and cruelties un-
heard of in any land, and disgraceful to the human race,
were inflicted on them, solely because they would not abjure
their religion and submit patiently to the iron band that
crushed them to the earth. Circumstances are now happily
changed; their religion and their priests are respected and
recognised by the Government, and the present Cabinet
‘ftivoliehrene lirtdi sameleinparleljpoliticalrtie footingl:tB respect., as
liberties
entertained r.
thataelgsao
or dfhrs
aE2:lno,eagt
ill in:,
against
placetedn tai.
noel
dt
Catholic
aes,ieoctahll
tiatetnerxdcf
faith.
iebtnouhntt.
vindicated, and with a
bvieesizin„ew exceptions
.they may be
ch:,nsgeose
rarely
Britriosdhuceconstthie-
said to enjoy the
consti-
tution. But sudden
effects anticipated, and people ernesiyavel
require long nursing and kind government beforefothrey ages
enjoy freedom or conduct themselves in obedience to those
can
laws which are absolutely necessary for its security. Theseo
1
remarks are true as regards Greece, Spain, and more espe-
cially Ireland. In neither is law sufficiently respected,
and extraordinary remedies, therefore, are required.
Possibly the undefined relations between landlord
and tenant have been the main causes of the de-
plorable condition of the Irish peasantry, and have
led many of them to resort to the most horrid of all crimes
—assassination—to obtain redress for what they considered
their wrongs. But such a means of redress cannot be en-
dured fur a moment in any country whatever. It is abhor•
rent to the human mind ; it tends to dissolve the bonds of
society, and bring civilised beings to the most brutal and
barbarous condition. It cannot be denied that this inhuman
practice has been carried on, and is still carried on, in parts
of Ireland to an alarming extent; it has becu „adopted Oa a

Lord STOURTOIVI2Ited that persons going to their priests,
eveu if knoWn criminals, should be protected against arrest
when on such an errand.
Lord BROUGHAM said, known criminds were now subject
to arrest under such circumstances. It would be intolerable
that a murderer should be permitted to escape from the
police on the excuse that he was going to his priest.
Lord Alots-rm&GLE objected to the proposal to vest any dis-
cretion in the policeman to detain or discharge persons found
from their homes after nightfall. They should be bound to
take the person so arrested before a magistrate, and give to
the magistrate power to discharge him at once, and not to de-
tain him for,,perhaps, a week in custody, until the next petty
session.
The Lord CHANCELLOR said, if the matter were permitted
to o.antl over to the third reading, he Would endeavour to see
if z;onte remedy could not be provided.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE thought a single magistrate
should have the power of deciding whether or not the man
should be detained or discharged.

The Earl of 11Tu..itcLow had proposed already that the
magistrate might.. have the power of admitting persona to
bail to appekat site petty sessions.
The Earl' Si'. GERMANS objected to give magistrates the
power of adrnittiwr persons to bail under such circumstances.
The Duke of 11101.1IOND thought the magistrate ought to
have tile power of admitting persons arrested, under such
cir,:urristance -to ,bail.
The Earl of DE-cvs.- supported tie recommendation of the
Lord Chancellor: •
The Marquis of NoratrAmr-roN supported the proposition
of the Earl, of Vat LOW, that power should be given to one
magistrate to-admit parties to bail.
The Earl of Sr. GEII3IAINS would withdraw the clause for
the purpose of reconsidering it.
The other amendments were agreed to, the report was re-
ceived, and the third reading of the Bill was axed for
Thursday.

Accident placed together two subjects of debate last night,
in the House of Commons, closely and painfully connected
with each other. Mr. Wieraesats's account of the lamentable
want of education in Wales fitly preceded the motion by
which Mr. T. DUNCOMBE reminded the House of the sad, but
sure consequences of ignorance, in the fatal outbreak for
which nose', Wiemaets, and JONES are suffering banish-
ment. But while Welsh ignorance calls forth pity for the
multitude who followed on that occasion, it furnishes
no plea of extenuation for the ringleaders. Our regard for
the interests of the working classes, and sympathy with
their grievances, will not permit us to join in the movement
which they have organised in favour of the leaders of the
Newport insurrection, and to which Mr. TIIO3IAS DUNCOMBE
(with whom generally we are proud to agree) gave articu-
late expression last night in the House of Commons. We
cannot, indeed, conceive a case in which there is less ground
for the interference of the House of Commons to procure a
remission or mitigation of punishment. The preserva-
tion of the peace of the country, the prevention of vio-
lent resistance to the Government, is an object which
all citizens, no matter what their political opinions,
must unite for. The working classes have grievances
which require redress ; but armed insurrection is not the way
to redress them. We do not go the length of some writers,
who hold that resistance is in no case justifiable : there are
extreme cases of misgovernment where the general principle
will not hold ; they are cases which speak for themselves, and
were success proves the necessity of resistance and justifies it.
" Great evils ask great passions to redress them,
And whirlwinds fitliest scatter pestilence."
But the state of society, the grievances of the working
classes in 1839, do not make the case of Fnosr, WILLIAMS,
and JONES, an exception to the sacred general
rule of obedience to civil authority. There is no
parallel between the Newport insurrection and the
Rebellion of 1641 or Revolution of 1688, and if
FROST, WILLIAMS, and JONES have no claim for indulgence
on the merits of their case, the legal plea made for them is
not worth much. Mr. DUNCOMBE tells us, that if a technical
objection had been taken in time it would have been valid
in the opinion of nine judges to six. But valid for what ?
Only to postpone the trial, in the opinion of all the judges.
The trial would have been postponed, and the prisoners
would then, probably, have been convicted, and, there
being no technical objection to the conviction, would
have suffered the last sentence of the law, which,
as it is, they have escaped. Or, even if the
technical abjection had been sufficient (which it was not), if
taken in time to procure an acquittal, it was a technical ob-
jection, and it does not lie in the mouths of those who rested
on a technicality to complain that another technicality has
deprived their of its benefit. It is another very important
circumstance to be considered that the prisoners did not
suffer, but, on the contrary, gained an advantage on their
trial by the informality which they complained of. The
point taken by the counsel for the prisoners was, that they
were not served with a copy of the indictment and a list of
the witnesses at the same time. This was because the Solicitor
to the Treasury indulged the prisoners with a copy of the
indictment four days before the period that the law pre-
scribed. Under these circumstances, we cannot but think the
working classes, and their able and courageous champion,
Mr. Dustcomne, have not exercised a sound discretion in
agitating this question.
Mr. DnRAELI strangely misunderstood Sir J. Ge,isram's
closing intimation, that though he did not feel it to be his
duty to accede to Mr. DUNCOMBE'S motion, it was
not to be inferred that the door of mercy was
entirely closed. This was no encouragement of agi-
tation, but a proper and considerate intimation that con-
tinuance of good conduct might entitle the banished men,
after a longer term of punishment than they have already en-
dured, to a merciful re-consideration of their case. Mr. MA.-
CAULAY, we think, was carried away, perhaps in the fervor„. of
discussion, into a rather exaggerated view of the
offence
which had been committed; and there is one pry of Mr.
MaeAuLAY's speech which we cansiot assent, to without
much qualification. We mean. that part in which
he reprobates in such unmeassered terms the sympathy
which had been shown for `.dc fate of TAWELL and other
criminals. There is an ingredient in that sympathy which
Mr. Matsu:ear has entirely overlooked—hostility to the
punishment of death. There was no sympathy with T.twELL
—no consideration of his crime in the efforts made to pro-
cure a review of the sentence which consigned him to death,
The origin of these efforts was aversion to capital punish
ment.

The Bill, as amended, vas ordered to be printed. Thursday
was fixed for the reconsideration of the report, and Friday for
the third reading.
The House then adjourned.

system, and independent of the atrocities of such deeds, they
have the most ruinous consequences on the very people who
resort to them for relief. It drives capital, and consequently
employment from Ireland ; no man that can help it will live
in a country where his life is never secure even
against the mid-day assassin ; no improvements can take
place, and unless the Government have the power
to repress such horrible crimes, and afford security to life
and property, the land will soon be occupied only by bands
of ignorant and lawless savages. The Government, by the
present Bill, has made the attempt to discover a remedy,
but whether it will be successful or not is another ques•
tion. Like all Coercion Acts, we fear that it will
ultimately fail, and that nothing but better go-
vernment and time will be found sufficient to abate
such crying evils. But so deplorable and so inju-
rious to the miserable peasantry themselves is the state of
the country, that even the best friends of the Irish wish to
give it a trial, in the hopes that the crime of assassination
may be put down. No doubt several of the clauses are se-
vere, but great crimes require severe laws, and we,
therefore, regret to find Mr. O'CONNELL railing, not so much
against the objectionable parts, as against the very attempt,
and using language which we fear will only excite the people
to rebel against it. "I have often spoken harshly," says he,
in his last letter, "of the Emperor Nrcnor,ts, but I will do
him the justice to say that he never issued such an ukase as
this ;" and in another place, "it has the hellish perfection of
perpetuity of pain and infliction." We lament that such
language should be used, and that many Peers well known
for their humanity should be ranked with such a despot, and
find such epithets applied to a measure which they con-
scientiously believe necessary.

We have accounts from Mad! id to the 3d instant, but
though they bring no intelligence of a striking character,
they lead to the belief that the present Ministry cannot go
on long. NAIWAEZ and his party keep aloof from them,
MARTINEZ DE LA ROSA, though not entirely opposed to them,
has in a manner deserted his post by retiring to Paris as am-
bassador, and the funds are rapidly declining. The large
sum required as an indemnification to the lay proprietors has,
no doubt, had an unfavourable effect in this respect, for to
raise such a large sum as 6,000,0001., or even provide for the
annual interest, is no trifle in a country like Spain. The
Government are making exertions to put down smuggling,
and very properly have begun with the foreign ministers
The Gazette of the 3d contains a circular addressed by the
Minister of Finance to the Director-General of Customs, fix-
ing the amount of articles to be imported for the private
use of the diplomatic body. An ambassador is allowed to
import articles free of duty to the value of 2,0001.; a minister
plenipotentiary 1,4004 a resident 8001.; and a chargé d'
affaires 6001.

par Zehts. closed at 29% cash, and
29Zatth603ddat3h-se;Tthh7e Five per Cents. at 21% for the 30th of
April.

Tne Paris papers are chiefly occupied with the Polish
insurrection and the affairs of Africa. On the former sub-
ject we have given elsewhere the latest particulars received
from Germany and the different places where insurrection
had broken out. They leave no hopes whatever of success;
and, perhaps, under all circumstances, the best that could
happen would be the speedy suppression of this ill-advised
and ill-planned demonstration. Should it proceed further,
only more persons will be implicated, and more victims
destined for punishment. A Polish committee has been
formed at Paris, with a view to raise subscriptions and aid
the Poles in the righteous cause, but we have great doubts
of the expediency of such a step at the present inauspicious
time. The Rcfornse says, the committee is composed of the
following numbers amomg others :—Messrs. ARAGO, BAUNE,
DAVID (D'Angers), DUPOTY, ETIENNE ARAGO, FLOCON,
GUINAED, LEDRU _ROLLIN, LOUIS BLANC, MICIIELET, QUI-
NET, and RECURT, and subscriptions have been opened in
the offices of nearly all the Opposition papers.
The accounts from Algiers are very unsatisfactory. Mar-
shal BUGEAUD, as our readers are aware, had arrived at the
place, and reckoned upon remaining there some time to form
his plans and recruit his exhausted troops, but AI3D-EL-
KADER will not give his consent, and is resolved to allow the
Marshal no rest. He has suddenly appeared on the east of
the French frontier, and BUGEAUD is thus compelled :to set
out in pursuit of him, with every man that can be spared.
The following account of this new raevement appears in the
Akbar, and is dated Mascara, Feb. 25 :--
" In consequence of the sudden appearance'of Abd-el-Kader in the
east of our possesions, all the 'columns of the province of Algiers
have been directed towards that point. The Governor-General bas
been forced, in order to cover the long opening which their movement
occasioned in the ccntral line of the
Tell, to call from the province of
Algiers the colu:in of Colonel Pellisler, which Is now watching the
Pass of Bog,):Aar, and that commanded by Colonel Renaud, which is
in 01)w:ration of the country beyond the sources of the Cheliff.
Tht4 disposition could not take place, except to the detri-
Inent of the combinations adopted, in order to close the
province of Oran against the Emir. In fact, the line of the
Keff is vkithout troops from Tiaret to the Oued-el-Abd, and
the Aghalicks of the Sdamas and Flittas, where the insurrection had
been scarcely quelled, was left open to the first agitator who should
attempt again to rouse them. It was necessary, therefore, to till up
these blanks as soon as possible. Lient.-General de Lamoricioo im-
mediately set himself to the work, and notwithstanding the enor-
mous diminution that his troops have experienced, ho adopted rapidly
all the measures commanded by circumstances."
The article goes en to describe the arrangements made by
General Idotonicnaut to attain the desired object. They
appear to have been skilfully planned, but have necessarily
called into use every detachment at his disposal.
The French Funds on Monday were greatly depressed. The Three
per Cents. closed at t64f. Ioe. ; the Five per Cents., I2of. 15c. ; the
Orleans Railroad shares, 1,3001. ; Rouen, 1,035 f. ; Havre, 7451. ;
great Northern, 7801. ; Avignon, 9805.; Viemon, 751 f.; Bordeaux,
662 f. 50c. ; Boulogne, ; ;Susie. 240 f. ; lampoux, 460 f. ; Dieppe,
470 f.; Paris and Strasburg, 540;'.; Tours and Nantes, 571 f. 25c.;
Paris and Lyons, detiliitive, 625 f. 30c.

The following are the quotations for other lines :
Lyons and Aviguon Railroad, definitive, Hit 50c.; ditto (Talabot)
512 f. 50c. ; ditto (Lecolute), 305 f. 50c.; ditto (Compagnie Merldie-
nalo), 502f50c. ; Bordeaux and Cette (Mackenzie), 503 f. 500. ; ditto
(Espeleta), 510 f. ; Charleroi, 495 f.
MARSEILLES, MARC!! s.—Marseilles and Avignon, I,olof. ;
Northern, 792 f. 50c. ;
LYONS, MANCH 7.—Marseilies and Avignon, 1,002 f. 50c. ; Paris and
Orleans, 1,:337f. 50c.; Iteueu, 1,067 E 110 c. ; Vierzon, 763 f. 50c.
BUSINESS DONE IN FOREIGN RAILWAYS AT THE

LONDOX STOCK HXCILkNGE, Maxey 10.
Boulogne and Amiens, 10N—Bordeaux, Toulouse, and Cato
(Mackenzie), 2—Dateh RivalLsh, i4—East Indian %—Gireat North-
am of Franca Constltatod, 1614—Jamaica South Midland Junc-
tion, 2 —Lyons and Avignon, 2—Laxeutboarg, 174—Namur and
Liege, 2%—Orleans and Yiersoa, 19—Orleans and Bordeaux, 11.74—
West Flanders, 3,i,

The followkng Members are proposed to be nominated by
Mr. Etwall for the Committee on the Andover Union :—Mr.
Email, Mr. Christie, Mr. Waklev, Lord Courtenay, Mr.
Charles Wood, Captain Pechell, Sir \V. Lleatlicote, Mr. Man-
ners Sutton, Mr. Disraeli, Mr. T. Duncombe, Mr. Beckett
Denison, Mr. Henley, Mr. Pakington, Mr. John Feilden, and
Mr. Stuart Wortley.

CHANCERY.-(THIS DAY.)
NICXELS V. lI:RTC:M.
Mr. P,ErITELL, with whom was Mr. Campbell, moved for a special
Injunction to restrain the above-named defendant, who resides at
Nottingham, from making, selling, or using the braid, or otherwise
infringing a patent granted to the plaintiff, Mr. ChrisTe,ther Nickels,
for " Improvements in machinery for covering flbres,, applicable in
the manufar.ture of braid and other fabrics."
Mr. I.InTIJELL, after describing the nature of the xvention, which
he said was
.-at once very Ingenious and simple, and the product
exceedingl valuable, and which had been of vital service to the glove
and hosie7.3-
defends- trade of the midland counties, proceeds Ito state that the
.nt and others had for some time infringed h in patent, and that
fr,em 'She manner in which they carried on their business, and the
cis-.,destine purchases which had been made fro as them by certain
r ,anufaeturers, some delay had taken place befor s the evidence could
he perfected. It had, however, now been mad e complete and the
patentee had taken end would take every means, to protect his rights
and suppress the piracies.

Arteifarther b'riefly alluding to the nature or the invention and
reading the aftldavits, his tiosoun, the Vice-Chumellor, directed the
injunction to be granted.
Solicitor for the patentee, Mr. W. li. Ashurst.
- - NICKELS V. )104J8, JUN.

Mr. BETnELL also applied for an injunction k restrain this de-
fendant, who also resides at Nottingham. from m anutacturing, using,
or selling the braid. lie stated this case to be airmlar to the pre-
ceding, but with the additional aggravation, 'that this defendant
knew that a verdict had been obtained against his far her, with whom
ho had been ciloscly connected, for infringing tlgs sa me patent, and
that the pat, mtee had found on issuing execution, that the defendant
in that actio 4 had sold off, or removed his roachines4 and furniture,
locked up 111,J house. and left the town.

In this c Lao, also, his Honour tho VICE-CHANCE Lunt granted an
injunction.
Solicitor ; for the patentee, Mr. W. li. Asharut.

BAIgKRUPTCY.-(THIS DAY.)
(Before Mr. Commissioner FONBLANQ az.)
IN RE LOEId.
This insolvi nt, who was a foreigner, came up t Jr his finta order,
which had bees I adjourned.
The insolveza t had carried on business as a shoes taker, :.t the west
end of the towt 1, and was opposed on the groan 4 that he con-
tractedheela ppea appeared
ad ebbytsthwel the ov tit
evidence
reasonableen:
th atin
prospects
June
last, o t
the
ei .
-Insolvent obtained 1g able to pay. It
furniture; from ~ the opposing creditor of the vale a, of 1001., and Sled
hu .
his schedule in ti se following August.
The iinsolventa vas exaaained through an inter order, and said that
he had not take as away the property, and still carried on business at
the same place int heretofore.
The Learner t COMMISSIONER said, he s o Id adjourn the case
to admit of th, . Insolvent paying 201. every 121 df Year till the whole
of his debts we: :e paid.
The insolven t asked what he should do if he could. not pay.
The COMMIS lIONEIL—TeII him I shall withdr aw s,ll protection, and
he mast do the sheet he can.
IN RR SIMPSON.
Mr. STURGE4 )11" opposed in this case, on the / round that the in-
solvent had nc .t inserted the amount he had r eserved, beyond the
amounts menti. .1 led in the 'schedule. Yet the . insolvent had paid
money to his att a rneY, and had also given sect erity to pay any Ra-
ther costs.
and security.
The Learned Ce nxisstoNsat said that he alley Aid have been sorry
to have agreed wit h the objection, on ho simr is want of form, but
where it was shows i money had been reserve. j,
to an unascortatued amount, he should digital is the petition. given,

5E60741.)A.R1E5.—(T.1113 DAN,)
(lief ire Mr. Secondary POTTER.)
.T.snito ED Attu OTHERS V. ANDREWS AND tern. S.
This was an action to recover the amount of a joint and several
promissory nob .s. T, ve of the defendants had SW f ered Judgment tb
go by default, but the other, Henry Andrews, jun., pleaded his
minority.
Mr. WiEnE, who appeared as counsel for the plaintiffs, F
plaintiffs were members of a society at Manches ieri m
cane' ____...l4
.. the
chester 50/. LE .an Society. The defendant, 11, ,mays. —, ills an-
iron. merchant . The Society had been formed t fir—dans*, was an
persona in tra -le in' time of need, each char ~,,
__,, ha amaistance of
to receive on et tch share 501., as funds were i -rider being entitled
The defendant. had received the money, but n, ":."14d, glvlng a bonus.
~..,,:i fact that the de-
Ile (Mr. Wilde) however, hoped to establisi "7,llleaded.his minority.
law, not withstanding
fendant had doi
his minority, f, i: anhe ahcatdwreitii which
the
boundtim e helfm
~...,: 1
asserted that he was of age. 131,414 the 4 ngagemeut
said
Mr. H. Elliott said he was an I
that ho
auction -
instalments, but there was Pi . Ga. 104.
Mme a member by s h ming the
cretary of the so iety.z Defendant be' 'ett at Itiallehefitek ~ and co-
deed, and he woi ild not have been
still due. Defent !ant distin*(lY, . admitted had he not sesi
was of age. lie p aid uP several
Instai
merchant. The , teed ha'..., not been he
enrolled, or age'
He i'll an iron
was established, t ha Act requiring for when :tin I Company Mr. Jorce, for i he it had not passed.
the defendant wee t adefendant, submitted, in the first place, that
not be sued for ,-bt. partner in the society-, and consequ lently could
Mr. WILDE ti rged that there
trustees to sue an dbe Sued was a covenant auth arising the
as borrowed, I ..d
,min
J.._, and that b`the same deed the defendant,
damages. "ea his I*
laby 0 be
sued as for ' liquidated
The SECON DART Laid that as it v.,
the Court ab, eve, e ot give' aa a case which inns' txo hefts%
objection hoi• reverenly went to the .an opinion on the p Ants The
necessary for the defendant to make ' account stated," it : was still
Evidence i ras adduced, clearly eUt his plea of minority f„
under age. ProVing that the dote) kta ut was
The SECON) MAT left It to the Jurn who f
defendant, of 1 the pica of minority. The Leund a Yard "let for the
other questio' a could be raised in the Court
_earned Judg, • d the
No that the AMA mid be Melzitaineft.
AbcoTe. 111.5 ow-
a 9 iniett

The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
Mr. B. Cocitn.ANE took the oaths and his seat for Brid-
port.

The Sheriffs of London presented a petition from the Lord
Mayor and Corumon Council of the city of London against
the North Kent Railway Bill. •
Petitions were presented from different parts of the country,
praying for the remission of the sentence on Fr.osT,
Lam, and JONE 3.
Mr. Q.CONNELL prOellted a petition from Mr. Q. D. DWETT

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MARCH 11, 1846,

RAILWAY COMMITTEES.

(THIS DAY)

Sub-Committee No. 2,

This Committee mat to-day at twelve o'clock ; present, Sir J. Y.
Buller (Chairman), Messrs. Bell, E. Yorke, Bramston and Walker.
This being the day appointed for the hearing of unopposed peti•
tions, the Committee proceeded with the following Bills :
CALEDONIAN, POLLOC, AND GOVAN, AND
CLYDESDALE JUNCTION ATIIA.LCPAIVSA-,
TION.
The usual formal evidence having been heard, the Committee
found that the standing orders had been complied with.
POLLOC AND GOVAN AND CLYDESDALE
JUNCTION AMALGAMATION.

This Bill was proceeded with, hut some of the witnesses not being
in attendance, it was postponed.

CALEDONIAN (CLYDESDALE JUNCTION)
DEVIATIONS.

The formal evidence having been heard, the Committee found that
in the case-of this Bill the standing orders had been complied with.
The object of the Bill was to'effect au amalgamation between the
Clydesdale and the Caledonian lines, and to obtain powers to make
two deviations ttom the Bill of last year. The estimated cost
was 15,0001.

Sub-Committee, No. 4.
Sub.Committeo, No. 4, ma this day at lila-past Twelve o'clock,
In Room No. 11, Sir William lleathcote i❑ the chair.
:Duman AND SANDYIVIOTST.

The proceedings in the cage, of this line have been postponed to
Monday.
WATERFORD AND TRAZIOILE LXNEL

In the ease of this line, eight miles in length, estimated cost of
completion 90,0001., there being a material witness absent, the Com-
mittee postponed their report. Par! I.onentary agents, Dean and Co.,
London; Solicitor, It. Cherry, Watvrtera ; Engineer, Mr. Townsend.
Cork,

M PERIA L PAR L (AM E NT.

(THThi' DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER tceli the Chair at Twelve o'clock.
SECOND READINGS.

The following Bills were read a second thee, and
ordered to be printed, viz. : Coventry, Nuneaton, Bir •
mingham, and Leicester Railway ; Ambergate, Not-
tingham, and Bosom and Eastern Junction Railway ;
Leicester and Bedford Railway ; Shropshire Union Rail.
way and Canal (Shrewsbury and Stafford Railway-) ;
Stamford and Spalding Railway.
Col. ROLLES ON presented a petition, signed by
nine-tenths of the lace-manufacturers of Nottingham,
deprecating the practice of working twenty-four con-
secutive hours, and praying that the time of labour
might be restricted to sixteen hours. The petition also
prayed the House to prohibit altogether the employment
of little children, under eight years of age, in the
factories.

a great deal of legislative rubbish which caused certain re•
strictions on consciences, and was a disgrace to the statute-
book, inasmuch as it imposed penalties for the sake of con-
science upon families of high honour, and who had descended
from a long line of ancestors. Ho hoped it would not be
said by those who should oppose this Bill, that the Esta-
blished religion in this country should be supported by such
restrictions upon the exercise of the Roman Catholic religion
as this Bill sought to remove. In reference to the Bill which
had been brought in by the Lord Chancellor, he (Mr. Es •
cott) would say it would be much better to take the two Bills
together, and make a good Bill out of them. In the com-
mon law of the land there was no penalties or oaths for
non- conformity in religious matters, and he hoped ere long
to see the common law universally restored to this beautiful
and simple principle. Wu. regard to the personal inconve-
niences endured by many, by reason of the existence of those
Acts, he would ask the House to consider how this matter
stood. Neither the 31st Geo. 111., nor the illth Geo. IV.,
removed the necessity that Catholics were under it; take an
oath, as the condition precedent to a person taking one a
license to teach, and which he might, upon religious ground:',
feel obliged to refuse to take. There could not be anything
more annoying than for Bishops of the Catholic Church to
interfere in matters relating to the education of Protestants.
as it was equally annoying for Catholic dignitaries
to interfere with the education of Protestante. The
oaths required under existing statutes shut out Catholics
from many important office:, as he could not in agree-
ment with his conscience take them. For instance,
there could not be a greater hardship than that the
office of proctor in the ecclesiastical courts—ail office
which had nothing to do with religious caith—
should be debarred Roman Catholics on account of there
penal statutes. He would further refer to a most important
section of the Catholic Church, the Christian Brethren, who
were much affected by the law as it stood at present. These
men were of the most exalted and excellent character, and
had done much for education in Ireland, yet by these penal
statutes they were outlaws, subject at any time to banish-
ment. They had the testimony of M. Guizot as to the
excellent and praiseworthy preceedings of the Christian
Brethren, and yet such was their position under these penal
statutes. The effect of the laws regarding,Roman Catholics
was, that wealthy members of that faith sent their children
out of the country to be educated, and much evil and incon-
venience arose out of this circumstence. He would refer to
a few other cases to show how members of the Roman
Catholic persuasion were at present affected, who
from conscientious motives (and, he might observe,
those who acted from such were not a few),
declined to take the oaths that were prescribed.
With regard to the oath of supremacy there were many
persons who had a conscientious objection to take it. An
eminent individual, who was an Archbishop of Rome, could
not sit it the council at Malta, in consequence of the
scruples he felt to take the oath. Mr. Waterton
could not qualify as a magestrate in the county in
which he lived; and there were many other persons
similarly situated, who could not conscientiously submit to
take it. It was too bad, therefore, that these worthy indivi-
duals should still be subject to these malignant and cruel
statutes. He would also mention another person, who was
subject to their oppression, the Rev. Mr. Greene, chaplain to
Sir Clifford Constable. Now these were real practical griev-
ances, arising from religious scruples of conscience. He
thought, therefore, that the House should interfere and put
an end to what must be considered a disgraceful state of
things. Let not the House imagine that it was a small or
trivial grievance which was at present under discussion.
Thousands of families, from the highest to the lowest in
the land, were waiting for their decision to be
restored to those rights of the constitution of which
they bad been unjustly deprived. They were waiting for that
decision also in other countries, and lie could not help think-
ing that some consideration was due to their feelings. It was
also due to the faith of the great majority of Christendom,
for they could not shut their eyes to the fact that those who
would be relieved by the removal of those disabilities be-
longed to a religious creed which comprised the greater part
of the civilized world. It was also due to the interests of
their own Established Church, for it was the
greatest injury to it to say that their faith
could not be maintained without perpetuating
what was the greatest injustice to others. In conclusion he
considered it most disgraceful to keep up this odious syStem
of civil penalties against a faith so celebrated—it was re-
pulsive to the feelings of all just men, repulsive to the
spirit of the age in which they lived, and cruel to those
against whom these laws were first enacted.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir ROBERT INGLIS said, that the experience which he
had in that House enabled him to say that it was a
very general feeling that to make concessions eves much
pleasanter than to resist them.—(slear.) Concession, however,
I he had not made, and was not prepared to make, on the pre-
sent question. Whether to liberate tise captive, to aid their
teflon-subjects by a grant of public mo;2ey—or, as in the
present ems., to remove the obstruction orcentain civil dis-
abilites—it was ine pleasanter to give than to refue•n• While
he admitted, howeVer, :lie pleasurable emotions which con-
cession would give, he regrets that he could not accede is:
the motion on the present occasion:- His Hon. Friend had
said that those penal enactments were the rubbish of the
dark ages. He would ask, however, whether this was
the case ? The first stage to which iie would
refer when they commenced, was what was called the golden,
or Augustan age of this country—a time when this country
possessed more eminent men than the Hon. Member himself,
or any of the gentlemen who formed the "Young England"
party. He would not, however, threw discredit or disparage-
ment on the men who formed the glory of the reign of Queen
Elizabeth. The next period was the great era of civil liberty.
The next was that of William 111. The next was George
But he (Sir R. Inglis) presumed that the dark age
to which the Hou. Gentleman referred was the year 1829.
(Laughter.) That was the darkest age in his estimation.
His Hon. and Learned Friend had told the House that greet
as the provisions of this Bill might be considered by some,
yet the Bill of the Lord Chancellor, which might he soon
expected from the other House, was still more comprehen-
sive. He contended that no practicalgrievance had operated
from the existence of the. statutes which this Bill was
intended to repeal. The Honourable and Learned Gentle-
' man had said that it was at present imposs
sible for any person in this country to bequeath
anything to a Roman Catholic college abroad, but, why did
he not introduce a measure to remove that grievance, if it
were a grievance ? He had also complained that the Roman
Catholic Bishop of Malta was precluded by the present penal
statutes from taking a seat in the Legislative Council, be-
cause he could not take the oath. He (Sir R. Inglis) would
not at present enter upon that question further than by
saying that his hope was, that wherever the Sovereign
carried her flag she should also there carry her • church.
—(Cries of "Hear, hear.") Many better than himself had
held that hope for centuries, and ttat till the last few years
was the theory, if not the practice, of the best men in Eng-
land. He apprehended that that statement would not be
contradicted by any Member of the House. Instead of carry-
ing our language and religion to Malta, when we conquered
it, we accommodated ourselves es much as possible
to the language and religion of the people
whom we bad conquered. That, however, was act the policy
adopted by the Romans, the French, or any other nation, or
even by England until the. last forty or fifty years of
Liberalism. Canada was not an exception, because it was
surrendered by treaty. He would now come to the general
clauses of the Bill. What was the practical effect of the Bill ?
He would take up the clause with reference to schoolmasters,
and he would ask whether any Roman Catholic had been
prevented from exercising the functions or avocations of a
schoolmaster because he had omitted to obtain a license from
the Protestant bishop of the diocese in which he proposed to
establish his school? In point of fact, they all knew that the
slightest impediment did not exist against any Roman Catho-
lic schoolmaster pursuing his avocations on such a ground.
Some member of the Church would probably rise in the
course of the present debate, and he (Sir R. Inglis) would
feel obliged to him if he would state that he knew any
instance in which any Roman Catholic teacher had
been prevented from exercising his avocations because he had
omitted to procure a license from the Protestant bishop of
his diocese to do so. He (Sir R. Inglis) would oppose this
Bill, because it would in effect repeal the Act cf Supremacy,
as well as the law for the expulsion of the Jesuits,
which prohibits Roman Catholic bishops from assuming the
titles of Protestant sees. It authorises, so far as the Roman
Catholic, shall not prohibit any Roman Catholic prelate to
assume the title of any see in England. He may assume,
if he pleases, the title of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
With reference to processions, the House had thought fit to
abolish Protestant processions, and would the House
now consent to have through the streets of Lon-
don the procession of Corpus Christi, or the processsion
of the Host. The present Bill also seeks to repeal a provi-
sion of the Act of 1829, which prohibits any functionary
from going in his sacerdotal robes to a place of worship.
When he told the House that there were no provisions or
grievances which the present Bill sought to repeal but those
which had been introduced by the Hon. Member himself,
who had brought forward the measure of Catholic Emanci-
pation in 1829, he thought he had stated sufficient reasons
for inducing him to move that the present Bill be read a
second time this day six months.
The SPEAKER having put the original motion and
amendments.
Lord MOIIPETH rose and said, that he hoped his Right
Honourable Friend the Member for the University of
Oxford would allow him, a Protestant Member of the
House, to express his regret, that any attempt should
have been made to resist those laudatle endea-
vours to get rid of the last remnant of the institutions
of the dark ages. His Right Hon. Friend would object to
their being styled the relics of the dark ages. They were,
at all events, the relics of an age which had witnessed
the passing of the penal codes. All really liberal minds
must, however, admit that if they were not re-
lies of the dark ages, they were remnants of a spirit
which reigned dominant and contemporary with the dark
ages.— (Hear, hear.) It might be said that these measures
which the House sought to repeal were a series of measures
enacted since the Reformation. He supposed his Right Hon.
Friend would confine the term "dark ages" to tee years
which preceded the Reformation, when the King's Govern-
ments and countries were all Roman Catholics. He had
no wish to cast any slur upon the opinions or
conduct of any men or body of men with refer-
ence to the course they might adopt upon
the present occasion. He considered that the enactments
which the present Bill sought to repeal originated in the
absence of sound views. He was not, however, as he said.
before, inclined to cast any slur upon the motives of the
opposers of the present measure. But on looking back to
the history of past ages he could not resist the con-
viction that of all the principles which have caused
evil or multiplied the sorrows of the human race,
the principle of bigotry has been the most fruitful—(Hear,
hear)—and the most pernicious. If he was guilty of a bad
taste or impropriety towards the Right Hon. Baronet the
Member for the University of Oxford, and applied the term
bigoted .to him, he was sure that the term would be received
by his Right Hon. Friend with a gentle and reprov-
ing smile—a gentle senile on account of the natural gen-
tleness of his temper, and with a reproving smile,
because 'he would. consider that such imputations
should not be cast by any person.—(Loud laughter.)
He could say that hardly a day passed in which he did not
detect some sort of bigotry in those even who thought them-
selves moat free from it. The Hon. Member had said that
wherever the flag of the Queen of England was reared, there
should her church be planted. He would not venture to say
bow far that principal had been carried out in cur colonies,
' but, it would seem more to the purpose if wherever the
Enetsh flag might be planted, .we were to inquire what was
the church of the Queen's subjects. He could hardly conceive
that the speech of the Hon. Member would have been made
on the second reading of the Bill, for when the House was in
Committee if there was any particular exception to be made,
the
it might be excepted in the operation of the Bill, andmese
House would no doubt consent to such a course.
statutes, as they .now stood, were useless, unless for the pur-
pose of keeping up nn offensive superiority,
artd throwing out
an unmerited stigma. -
He found by the first clause in this
Bill that preaching :wee 1,0 be punished by forfeiture of
p ~'.onment. Yet it was known
goods and one 3
-;vearg:bpirmorn"rulgataed every day from 1,000
that this creed mere connivance at a
pulpits, snaking the statute
falsehood. Why did not the Hon. Member for Pontefract
bring forward a case which occurred some two years ago in
which parties were proceeded against for not going tochurch ?
Ig.o
These statutes while they were on the st There -hook
were alt h
be enforced for some malicious purpose.
denunciations against bell steeples and even
us Christi against articles
of wearing apparel, The procession of Corp