The Sun.
London, England, 1846-02-20 00:00:00

COMMONS SUMMARY.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at, Four o'clock.
General EVANS took the oaths and his seat for Wes

minlter.

Mr. Gooch took the oaths and his scat for East Suffolk, and
Mr. SEYMER and Mr. FLOYER took the oaths and their
seats for Dorsetshire.

Several Rail way Bills were read a second time, and ordered
to be committed.

Petitions were presented for and against the Customs and
Corn Importation measure.
On the motion of The O'Conteon Dos, it was agreed, that
it should be an instruction to the Select Committee on
Petitions on Railway Bills, where parties bad proved com-
pliance with the standing orders, that they should have
precedence.
During the course of a somewhat desultory conversation on
the subject of railway Bills, it was stated that on Monday
the Committee would report on a large number of railway
Bills, which had by them been arranged in groups, and it
was suggested that Irish railway Bills and Scotch Bills
should have precedence.
Mr. P. ScnorE suggested the appointment of a Commis-
sion to arrange preliminaries, and to sort radway Bills in
groups before the meeting of the House.
In answer to Mr. GisnonNE,

Sir G. CLERK said that he was not prepared to state at
present whether the Government would introduce any pro-
position founded on the report of the Gauge Commissioners,
There was an immense quantity of evidence not yet printed,
which the Government must consider before they determined.
Mr, IlunsoN proposed that the standing orders of the two
Houses with regard to railway Bills should be assimilated
and that railway Bills generally should be permitted to ori-
ginate in the Lords as well as in the Commons, would be a
great saving of time and expense.
The SPEAKER stated that he had received a letter from
the Hon. JAMES LINDESAT, stating that it was not his in-
tention defend the return of the borough of Wigan.
In answer to a question,
Sir J. GrunAm said it was intended to to divide the duties
of the office of Crown Solicitor in Ireland, vaca:l by the re-
cent appointment of the late Crown Solicitor to another
office, and that by the new arrangement, which was merely
an experiment, a saving would be effected of NU a year.
On the motion that the House, at its rising no adjourn till
Monday,

Mr. BROTIIERTON moved that thh House do sit to-morrow
at 12, as it was not likely the House wculd divide to-night.
Sir R. PEEL thought it would be extremely advantageous
that an early decision should be come to on the question, yet
he saw no advantage in acceding to the proposition of the
Hon. Gentleman. He knew how impossible it was to limit
discussion, but still he thought no advantage could be gained
by acceding to the proposition of the Hon. Gentleman.

Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN ;aid that several Hon. Gentlemen
on that side of the House were desirous of addressing the
House. No time would be lost in permitting them to ad-
dress the House on this question, as tio.ey would not have to
address that House again in the future stages of the Bill.
Ile hoped, therefore, the division would not be unnecessarily
pressed for this evening.
Mr. ROEBUCK, who spoi:e in a very indistinct tone, put a
question as to the post-dice arrangements with Canada, in
answer to which

Sir R. PEEL stated that the matter was a very complicated
one, and would'better form the subject of official commuuica-
thn than of a question in the House.

In answer to a question from Capt. OSBORNE relating to
the potato disease,
Sir R. PEEL said that he had since received a communica-
tion from Dr. LINLEY stating that from experiments which
he had tried, he was of opinion that potatoes propagated
from diseased seed were themselves diseased, and that there-
fore the greatest care was necessary in the selection of pota-
toes from seed in order to guard against the propagation of
the disease.

Various petitions on the subject of the corn-laws having
been presented.

The adjourned debate was resumed by
Major CUMMING BRUCE, who denied that the Government
measure would be considered a settlement of the corn-law
question. It was a total sacrifice of the interests
of an important class of the community, and if this
sacrifice were to be made to agitation, it would only give
rise to a new agitation for more
.dangerous objects. If the
Government had been firm, the agitation would
have been put down, but experience proved that con-
ceding to agitation only gave rise to fresh demands.
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

THE LINENDRAPERS AND SILK

MERCERS' INSTITUTION.

The fourteenth annual Court of the Institution was held last
evening at Exeter-hall._

Mr. PICA ncx, the President, took the chair at half-past
seven o'clock, and called upon the secretary to read the adver-
tisement calling the meeting.
The SEcnEranY afterwards read the report of the directors
for the past year, stating that the capital stock of the institution
amounted to 16,8471. Three per Cent. Consols, and 10,0001.
Three-and-a- Qu4rter per Cent. Consols,besides a sum of 2441.
in the hands of the treasurer, showing a slight increase over last
year. The report further stated that seventeen applications for
relief had been received and met, and that a total of 4591.
I 2s. had been expended in annuities and temporary relief, most
of the sums being upwards of 301.
Mr. FAIRBANKS then came forward, and moved, according
to notice,

Ist. 'That the secretary shculd be requested to put tip in the
ballot-room a list of the names of the directors, and the times
they have attended the Board; and, 2tily, that the class and
name of the medical attendants, a list of the cases, and their
nature, attended on by them, should be printed and circulated
among the members of the Institution.
The first of these motions was before the Court for some
time, but was ultimately lost. Mr. Fairbanks withdrew his
other motion, as he had heard it was impracticable.
Mr. SiLwALL moved the following resolution :—" That this
Court, agreeing that an asylum, as projected in a circular from
the Secretary some time since will be for the interest of the
institution, recommend it to the reconsideration of the Board."
The gentleman supported his proposition on the general
grounds of benevolence, and on the necessities and grounds
peculiar to the class of trades connected with the Institution.
Several gentlemen, directors, and members of the Institution,
expressed their opinion of the proposition, and
The SECRETARY, as the originator of the scheme, was
called for by the meeting to set the reasats before them which
had indu,sed him at first to commend it to their attention. He
said, the conclw ion to which he had come, and which they might
be astonished at, was derived from experience of other trades
as well as their own ; and he had to say that he did n t think
there was any class of trades more asleep to their own interest
than theirs. He believed that the class of trade to which he
belonged had the means and the power, but neither had been as
yet called into action. Others far inferior in these had accumu-
lated great advantages for themselves, and conferred immense
benefit on the public—he begged to refer to the licensed
victuallers. Under that conviction he was earnestly desirous

that their energies should be called out. Since publishing
his scheme he had heard arguments which had led him to re-
consider it, but he still clung to what he had proposed. He
would specifically ob3crve, however, that it would be the ob-
ject of those who adopted his proposal not to impair or to
clash with the object of those who were the originators
of the Institution—(Hear, hear,)—but he felt it was
perfectly practicable to get a large fund without infringing
at all on the Institution. The asylum, he said, which he pro-
posed, would not be confined to the members of the Institution.
He wished that it should be open to the trade, and that every
person in the trade who gave one guinea should have a vote in
filling a va:ancy. Ile hoped in this way to make the scheme
more popular, and he believed the effect would be to excite more
favourable attention to the Institution itself.—( Hear, hear.)
The discussion having been continued some time longer, the
motion was put, and carried by a large majority.
It was moved and seconded that the thanks of the Court
were due to the medical staff of the Institution, which was
carried unanimously. .

A vote of thanks to the directors and to the president were
severally moved and carried unanimously.

MIDDLESEX SESSIONS.

(Before Mr. Sergeant ADAMS, the Assistant Judge, and the
usual Bench of Magistrates.) •
FIRST PROSECUTION UNDER TILE NEW DOG STEALING
ACC.— Tay?nr was yesterday irdicted for having
corruptly received the sum of 1/. 12s. from Mr. Woolley,
under the pretence of recovering for him a favourite poodle
dog which he had lost.
The prosecutor resides at Stockbridge-terrace, Pimlico,
and holds some office in the Admiralty. The defendant is
one of that clever and lucky class of persons whoa find"
dogs that more unlucky persons have had the misfortune to
lose. The present prosecution against him was instituted
under the Act Bth and 9th Victoria, cap. 47, recently passed
for the prevention of dog stealing, and which -declares,
"That any person who shall corruptly take any money or
reward, directly or indirectly, under pretence Cr upon
account of aiding any person to recover any dog
which shall have been stolen, or which shall be in
the possession of any person not being the owner
thereof; shall be guilty of a misdemeanour and punishable
accordingly." It appeared from the evidence adduced on
the part of the prosecution, that on the 4th instant the pro-
secutor lost a favourite poodle dog, and had a similar mis-
forth!, eon several previous occasions. That he made every
endeavour to recover possession of the animal, and in the
course of the inquiries which he made respecting it, he had
an interview with the prisoner on the subject, who in answer
to his questions said he knew where the dog was and who
mid got it, but that that party wouht not restore it for less
than 2/. Finding that the prisoner knew so much about the
matter, he requested his assistance to enable him to recover
possession of the dog, and which he agreed to do for a " con-
sideration ;" and the suns of 1l: 12s. was ultimately paid over
to hint for his promised services. On the day following the
prosecutor, in consequence of some other information he had
received, went to the defendant's house, and finding his dog
there, gave the defendant into the custody of a policeman, on
a charge of having corruptly receired money conzrary to the
Act of Parliament above quoted. The Act gave the Court
the power of punishing the prisoner either with fine or
imprisonment.
The prisoner haring been convicted,
Mr. WILDE, who appeared on his behalf, aWied to the
Court to punish his offence by fine instead of imprison-
ment, but
The AesisTater-Junaz said, the offence of which Or: pri-
soner had been convicted was one that the Act in question
had been passed expressly to put a stop to. It was one of
such frequent occurrence that the Court was determined to
carry out the Act of Parliament to the fullest poi:tittle extent ;
the sentence, therefore, of the Court was, that the prisoner be
confined three months in the Iloase of Correction, and there
kept to hard labour.
[This is the first conviction under the Dog-Stealing Act
(in planning which Mr. Bishop, of Bond-street, took an
active part) for demanding money as a reward for restoring
the stolen deg.]

POLICE IN TELLIGEN CE.
MANSION-HOUSE.

Michael Iliygins, Mary iliggins, Elizabeth Capper, and
William Copper, were brought before the Lord Mayor,
charged with felony.
William Palmer, clerk to Mr. Barber, wharfinger, at
Galley Quay, stated that a truss of linen-drapery was de-
posited in the warehouse on Wednesday week, to be shipped
for Margate. On Saturday last it was lost, but on Wednes-
day night two pieces of calico were found hidden. The
truss was gone altogether.
A porter, in the employment of Mr. Barber, stated that
he. knew the two male prisoners, as working in the quay,
and they 'ere employed in that pint of the warehouse in
which the truss had been deposited. lie found a blue
package and a brown paper parcel underneath a box.
Charles Fowler, warehouseman to Mr. Stanley, 67, Cheap-
side, stated that the trues of linen-drapery was sent from the
warehouse, directed to J. Gosling, Margate, to be forwarded
by hay, from Galley Quay. lie believed the pieces of
calico produced were part of the goods which were contained
in the truss.

Each of the prisoners was identified as a person who
pawned some portion of the stolen goods.
They were all remanded.
GUILDHALL.

Mr. amjamin Parytr, type-founder, cf Bartholomew -close,
was yesterday again brought up for final examination before
Aldermen Hughes Hughes and Lucas, charged with having
in his possussion several moulds which had been stolen
from Messrs. Figgins, of West-street, Smithfield.

Mr. Humphreys appeared on behalf of the prosecutors, and
Mr. Child for the defendant.
At the request of Alderman HuGHEs the evidence taken
on Friday last was read over, the purport of which has already
appeared.
Mr. Henry Caslon, of Chiswell-street, type• founder, stated
that the value of the mould was about V., and if new they
would be worth 31. ea• Th. it was, however, difficult for him
to give the value of second-hand moulds, not being a broker.
There was something peculiar in the make of one of ti-
mouldi, but the rest were ordinary ones. If a man offered
bins some moulds at the price of 10s., he would buy them it
he knew the party came by them honestly ; but if a stranger
came and offered them, he certainly would not purchase until
he had made some inquiry. A purchaser of moulds must at
all times expect he would have to make some outlay before
they would become useful. One of the moulds had no nick
on it for the type when cast.
Two or three witnesses were recalled and questioned, but
their answers aid not differ from the evidence already given.
Mr. Child then addressed the Magistrate on behalf of the
prisoner, and called several witnesses to prove the value of
second-hand moulds, and the price they usually fetched.
Alderman HuGnEs committed the prisoner, and admitted
bum out on his former bail.

On Saturday lest Mr. Daniel O'Connell, with Mr
John O'Connell, his lady, and two of their sons, visited Chelmsford.
by railway, and the presence of the great agitator, who was looking
hearty and wed, and as ore the well-known green repeal cap, ex-
cited considerable curiosity amongst the inhabitants. The party took
up their temporary quarters at the Black Boy Inn, and, having en.
gaged Mr. Amery's commodious omnibus, as most convenient for
them, they proceeded with four horses to the :Nunnery, at Ness
Hall, where they remained about three hours. On their return they
partook of an excellent dinner, of Mr. Amery's providing, which was
calculated to give the Liberator a high opinion of Essex cookery; and
the party returned to London by the seven o'clock train in the lirr en-
ing.—Easex firrald,

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, Thursday, Feb. 19.
MO DE LA PLATA.

Lot d BEA UM ON T (in continuation humour Third Edition)
if they would allow him he would look into a document, the
only one that bad been sent by the Governor, in explanation of
such extraordinary conduct. In the first instance, he stated
the determination of the Government to accomplish its object
by a coalition with France, with which country they would, if
necessary, unite their interests for the acomplishment of their
object. That was to say, in other words, that he had resolved
to enforce this decimation, which would in fact he a declaration
directly contrary to the laws of nations. The Noble Lord has
said that Buenos Ayres had a right to wage war if it
thought proper. No doubt it 'Lid ; but this was not
a declaration of war by one nation against another—it
was more like an individual quarrel against their Argentine
allies. It was not a war against the Argentine State, but an
effort of that State against a faction of foreigners. General
Orlhe and General Riviera had been elected by the unani-
mous voice of the people, and gave every satisfaction, and
when both Governments had been established and settled, the
recommendation of the Noble Lord was, that both should be
upset, which would of course involve the removal of those
two generals, and the result would he, not to establish a better
system of government, but to re-establish in fact this faction
of foreigners, for he knew of no others that could be sub-
stituted. Then he said that he would be prepared to enforce
the free navigation of the River Plate. However, the Noble
Earl seemed to have seen the errors into which he
had fallen when writing this dispatch, and in a further
dispatch he abandoned the idea of expelling both
Governments. lie had now stated, and stated very briefly, all
the circumstances which had led to the intervention of the two
countries. He had done so without reflecting on the conduct
of the officers and those who were engaged in those matters.
He had no doubt that they had acted according to the in-
structions received from the Noble Earl, and his remarks,
therefore, only referred to the Government at home. Ile re-
peated that he did not wish to infer anything against the infe-
rior diplomatic corps or the officers of the fleet. Before he
concluded, their Lordships would allow him to state that he
was not a mere apologist fur General Rosas. His sanguinary
disposition he (Lord Beaumont) believed had been enormously
exaggerated, and if the judgment of Rosas were measured ac-
cording to the scale of morals and opinions in that country, he
would stand forward far superior to the mass of those who had
risen to power. If the Noble Earl would call to recollection
what had taken place in Mexico and other republics, he would
see that General Rosas did not alone revel in those sanguinary
habits which were attributed to him by a publication printed in
Monte Video, and purporting to be the life of General Rosas.
The Noble Lord concluded by moving for the papers for which
he had given notice.
The Earl of ABERDEEN said that the attention of his
Noble Friend opposite had been so often directed to the affairs
of the Turkish empire, that he trusted this diversion to the
western world signified that he had left things there in a
satisfactory condition. The Noble Lord had described the in-
terference of England and France in the affairs of La Plata as
unnecessary and unjust. He ventured to say, that if there
ever was a case in which proceedings of this
kind were justifiable, it was that which had taken
plaee with regard to La Plata.—( Hear, hear.) The
war had been carried on in a manner revolting to hu-
manity—a war which, in truth, had no national object what-
ever, was carried on on no intelligible or public grounds, but
was founded entirely on personal hatred and party rancour.
It was rare, indeed, that any war in his mind was just or
wise ; but this war in the river Plate was not only wicked,
but was the most senseless that had ever occurred. It had
been during the whole course of this war an object of Great
Britain to arrest, if possible, its I regress. In 1841 the Noble
Lord who preceeded him (the Earl of Aberdeen), in the office
which he had the honour to hold, directed her Majesty's
Minister at Buenos Ayres to press the mediation of Great
Britain on that Government, with a view of putting an end to
the hostilities which existed. That offer was refused. In the
following year an opportunity had arisen in which the united
proposal of England and France to mediate between the parties
would be attended with some success. That joint mediation
was strongly represented to the contending parties. It was
accepted readily by Monte Video, but was rejected by Buenos
Ayres. That was in the autumn of 184, and the efforts of
this country were unsuccessful. For two years nothing wasdone.
Petitions had been presented to both the Governments of
France and England to interfere in order to effect a settlement
of the dispute between the two countries. The Noble Lord
thought they had gone out of their way to interfere in this
natter, but when it was considered how the state of things in-
terfered with the neighbouring States and settlements and af-
fected the commerce of that part of the world, he thought it
was right that some endeavour should be made to effect a set-
tlement. In 1844 the Governments of France and England
were sgain implored to mediate, and the two Governments
agreed to offer their mediatiation a third time, and arranged
that if the parties would not agree to a peaceable settlement,
and if such was refused, then to coerce them into that step.
The attempt was in vain, and accordingly instructions on the
part of the two Governments were tent out, but those inatrue,

tens cvincel no hostile views towards General Roses or tee
wards Buenos Ayres. The instructions were to act in a fair
and impartial spirit towards both countries, and to use every
means to induce the Government of Buenos Ayres to
li,ten to their mediation. The offer was refused
and the ulterior steps complained of were then taken.
The people of that country thought that the interference et
England and France was not sincere in the matter. They had
since found that this union was established for no other object
than the bringing about of a lasting peace. He was happy to
be able to state, that whatever were the opinions of certain
parties in the United States, the Government of that country
had disavowed the acts of their agents in South America.
Although the Noble Lord had said that this country was not a
party to the construction of that state, still it was carried by
the friendly interference of this country. It would be a most •
unfortunate thing if General Rosas were allowed to take pot"
session of both sides of the River Plate. The Government had
eo objection to General Riviera or General Rosas, provided •
they had the support of the peop'e, but this they
had not. General Riviera was the Lieutenant of General
Rosas, and the troops were entirely under their control.
He wished to say a word as regarded the opening of the tri-
butary rivers= that would be accomplished lawfully and peace'
ably ; and he agreed with the Ncble Lord, and had only to re;
peat the sentiments which he had often before uttered la the
House, namely, that to the navigation of the river referred to
by the Noble Lord, they cannot pretend to exercise any claim..
Such could not be established as long as they were negotiatil
with Buenos Ayres, with which state he hoped they tene
long maintain friendly relations. Very recently General R°l-
had made a proposal for a settlement, on grounds which were
then not admissible, bet which, he hoped, would soon be se'
cept able. He hoped the Noble Lord would not think it flees'
nary to press his motion for the papers referred to ; end ir
hoped also that the House would understand his (the Nob!
Lord's) discretion in not entering into a defence of the cond,,e`
of the Government, or of the character of the individual ate',"
head. Again, under the circumstances, he hoped the Noble
Lord would not press his motion.
Lord COLCHESTER would wish to say a few words°,
this discussion He cordially concurred in the intentiens •
the Government of the country to close the warfare that had
been going on in the River Plate. The Noble Lord had stated
that he had two reasons for recommending this course, the o). •
was, the restoration of peace, and the other war, to provide le:
the independence of that stale. But he ( Lord Colchester) w 5.,
of opinion that the means which the Noble Lord propoiied./Q,
accomplishing those objects was not such as, in his 00°12',
weuld be likely to succeed. The Noble Lord had stated teed
this was a war without an object, but he (Lord Colchester) at',e
not think that that was quite a correct description of it. Pr
would not trouble the House by going over again the detailt;
the Noble Lord ; but it was quite apparent front who(
be had heard the Noble Lord state that the object
General tiosas was to restore a friendly understandil
The Noble Lord then referred to a pamphlet he held in
hand, from which he quoted the amount of the population elf
Monte Video, and the other states, and then continue,Vd
the war had been brouelit to an end by the interference
Great Britain, it would, no doubt, have been a desirable ebj7ea
but the result had only been, that a great falling off had t!tee
place in their trade weh that country. The speech 01
Noble Earl that night might do much good ; for, of courre,pit
would be known over the world. The Noble Lord then °c
m,
into au exposition of General Roses' character, stating illat„a
belonged to a highly respectable family, and that he belie'
the character of that General was as good and respectable -4.
many in thie country emloyed in the most iortant offic_eso
When they considered what barbarities characterised civil r
in all countries, and especially in Spain. they would view 'n
different light the proceedings of General Rosas. soels
Lord BEAUNIONT said, after the explanation of the s
Lord (the Earl of Aberdeen) he would withdraw his nn't to
lie hoped that the explanation he had given would go °u't of
South America, as it was calculated to do a great emote
good. teoble
The Duke of WELLINGTON wished to ask the
Lord a question. The Noble Lord had said that Oribectse
the first president. If he (the Duke of Wellington) rccolle
aright, General Riviera was the first president.
Lord BEAUMONT replied that General Riviera ger`tee4l'
his regular term of office, and then a new president was Cie'
in a similar maneer to the President of the United Stri,eo
General Oribe was elected, but before he had fulfillieldell
period, through the intervention of a French party, ee'Letectsolt
others, who were opposed to him, he was expelled. ri-beivg
shelter in Buenos Ayres, where he was persued, the war sista
carried even to the walls of that city. An independent tbo
was thus invaded, and it was in the retreat from this place
Lavelle lost his life.

The motion was en withdrawn. ,
:11essengers fromth tile Commons brought up the Gran ill.
Presentment (Ireland) Bill and the Drainage (Irelanalll
SELECT COMMITTEES. -
Earl GREY gave notice that he would next week
resolution respecting Select Committees, in conformiti ositi
the suggestion made to him by the Noble Duk?
(Wellington).

STATE OF IRELAND.
Earl GREY would take that opportunity of tokitneg
Noble Friend opposite what course he intended to 01'10'
Monday, in moving the second reacting of the Bill he ba
troduced for the better protection of life and property's
land? He had understood that some intimation had beet?bicli
that a general statement would be made as to the pc:die) ci. ,
the Government intended to pursue with regard to Ireland bad
The Earl of ST. GERMANS said his Noble Frien eve°
given him notice of his question, End he had in 011011
communicated with his Right Hon. Friend at the head. °f
Government, and he had stated that he had given no 111 00
non such as that to which his Noble Friend had referrea.) id ,r
Monday next, however, he (the Esrl of St. Gerall°l';',;(lok
moving the second reading of the Bill which had been a )IP
to, would endeavour to state the grounds on which tie
,esty's Government were prepared to found the propoo.l°t
that measure. It would be inconvenient for him at thaweverlt.t
ment to make a statement. It would be compe-tents
for the Noble Lord, when that statement was made, "bet,rl'r
mot meet his approbation, to take other steps.—(llear „ th
The NOBLE Lorca then 12ronght up the report °',olll
Public Works (Ireland) Bill, which was ordered to lie
table.
The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the first reading

Bill for the revision of Charitable Trusts.
The Bill sAas read a first time.
The House then adjourned.

.cas.
HOUSE OF COMIIIOIVS, Thursday, Feb. 19.
INTERFERENCE AT ELECTIONS. 0 state
Mr. COLLETT (in continuation) said—He had ~,west
in his place in Parliament that the privileges of the Ctwencer
of the United Kingdom had been infringed by George *el!!
Churchill, Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Oxford, &a
go tbs
of Marlborough, in the election of a representative,'
borough, in 1644, when his son, the Marquis of Biandlor sod
d;
returned ; in 1845 when Viscount Loftus was returve le%
at the election of its present representative, Lord et
t°
Churchill; which, as he said, he should be able to et to t'
he:ore a Committee of the House. Then, with resPreavi ite
borough of Buckingham— but he (Mr. Collett) hid so °beet, ier;
stances in which the privileges of that House had tatioal,
fringed by Peers of the realm that he had some he'l,ipg
calling attention to the whole of them for fear of etetaleemati:l
House.—( Cries of "Go on.") Well, then, the same Tberab
applied with equal truth to the election of Sir t uloatt:
Fremantle and the Marquis of Chandos in the presealsnita,
without opposition, to represent that borough in
With respect to that borough, he had to state in Yarltndbier4
(Signs of impatience on the part of the House, and I! 700'4
Gentlemen might think it. a laughing matter, but atearicei
think it was. The subject was of the highest imPar_, beft'ref
affected their privileges, which they ought to protect;.,ailesseo
he had to state in his place in Parliament that the pit 0,04,
that House had been infringed by the Duke of Bacot! f'oo
and Chandos with respect to the elect ons of Sir Th,pch-seei._,;
mantle and its present representative, the Marquis 01 vireo;
Having made these charges, which he had reduced taiude4.4
he begged to tender them to Alr. Speaker, and Oa' into '',f
moving tot a Committee of Privileges, to inquiref,o-efe
causes that led to the vacation of their seats in this °of Ce,,,
the Members lately representing in Parliament the city i joe'
cheater and the boroughs of Newark, Woodstock, sots )1,1
ngham ; also to make inquiries as to the elections °Toe 0;0
hers now representing in Parliament the said city an
and if pi
three boroughs, and to repot t whether or not in anYrututiefi
in what cases, either as to vacation or election, the I." 0;
this Hou-e had been infringed.
The charges and motions of the Hun. Member haliP°es
read, et to bye
Mr. WILLIAMS rose and said he did not eal)!eud. „its
been called upon to second the motion of his Hon. 1" ',4jor
expected that the Noble Lord the Member for oer
(the Marquis of Chandos) or the Noble Lord the .3."'
Chichester (Lord H. Lennox) would have bean Vesir)4o
have come forward to second this motion —( Hear'hoie g'cle
order that an inquiry might be instituted into t ie Vert.
charges which had been made against those two oboe fstb ant
and the still more serious charges against their Nf,e„.erru:oB
He expected that some Member of her Majesty's `loporl e
would have made some answer to a motion of so
of this
involving so deep a stain upon the character ed, by
the chages contained in that motion could be pros' ijece,tio
a similar motion was brought forward, some Yeagher octet'
an Hon. Member (Mr. Manners) charging a ine %rent tbst
then Noble House of Holland, who had to a great e vpea db)
elected by the corrupt influence of certain Peerstri,tierearee
occasion the Prime Minister of the country (Lord .`-ttee rid
stood up in his place, and said that such a Conan' ferab'egb'
tally unnecessary, from the notoriety of the fact, Oahe boreriotte
that House were elected by such influences under polo
mongering system of that day. The fact s'alae:r, bettyre
as the sun shining at noon day. (Balm rrtteoaret
Was the House to understand that peers of the 1 that ' eitig
trample on the most important sessional order 0',5 by 50000
and also to stain the character of their proceedio he exp
ibe
parties to represent and maintain their position at I 0W..0
of the country at large. Those were charf.eosat je.4s; be
House of Commons ought not permit to rest Fite
fed tbre
Two or three years ago an Hon. Member had !,.e Ou.!iaos)
believed certain members were returned toiitir.P. Will 000
the grossest bribery and corruption.
acedtha tlag,t et'
believed that a committee then appointed suht eagee.
were fully proved, but that no imputation c° • Thebt 10
the parties charged with using improper influe_inecetbea etiebarge
Member for Bath stopped very short of what
have done. The charge against these Noble t'"..sed Of; that
brought by Mr. Bathurst—war, that they. had
_"_,hers obeli
fluence and power, and demanded certain In'e.""r, felt
,_tetiose
House to resign their seats, because those rneferowentoouteot!.
duty to support measures introduced by Go" o and I,,iga
those measures wt re opposed to the influemae._..e, to r_soase
of
of those Noble Dukes, and ordered those A.l!c the f!ticoi,e4o
consequence. These were charges which and
Commons in the deepest state of degrada"_`_'_;seel orapr, ecet°
such serious charges as should not be slighttYoprototeoufoee
(Mr. Williams) asserted that the 11011.,
a; d
e`ii,y int! out!
bound to inquire, not because those Peers. tt_ 0).....-bot,ted
their personal character—(Cries of "wqr'sl. ereseeer°', but,'a
their property gave them an influence n!Ct!en3 es rrle.!euce
$l,
fairly by those Noble Lords. He ,peke ot, 'us vast in_ntt.:oo
was well known their great property had The goelkojettYr,
procuring Members seats in that House..
c_se her iropeti,
one of great importance to the country, hes._raes" of gre.,tteeli
t:(
Government had brought forward 111 e 'that sboseluerese_e
tance to the nation, and the country felt for the Pdes °lvo,
House ehare spit
persons to represent places in that
arave
ved th ler
thwarting those measures. When it beho
brought against the character of the 110:o',:dislierkYrioti, hor.,
inquire whether such influence was ex:,
heo •
did °°`enderi_,,:
cases were brought under their notic
without sortnoest
they could refute to grant such inqui.)i. had bre
ko. ribs
their characters. The greatest indte:ntY
very Dust aoorot
her Majesty's Government by th",yei.,_ slitebaßutllie,orgoeasiat..°ltieoll,
charged the Right Hon. Baronet
_.e
ttanid.,
conduct.—(Cries of'' No. no.") It
ade. 5 muc'fier
grois and calumnious had been ro.t
vas quite a, the clt
them, that the Right Hon. Barondheers.) A"Ilv thiab lit
•
terested in land as any of them.—(
him ica' to the Pubhg
ince that exists between them aneive sy
ot f
or
the p
tber
(Sir R. Peel) made his private interests g A n
care., roan'ainc
good, while they exclaimed that
TheYreir P'elin
theinterestpublic f interferedigtood w a.,
to
bwei with trhi
neci rets.(l7l2Y
selfish and tuerthese 0.11--ech
interests were attended to.
Tbheisenter entertained tyn•.land ekes
ought not, in his opinion, rovided th
censor sects,,
0,
emen °f
~ioble this
the
a manifestation of feeling on
tbe endured the part bY the peopeo
sumed to themselves a title of
and their supporters would na
ought not , been Pintecl
e tad he IA 11
sthaftte:that t°
hi' - eald
c\voLntirtyt,oanbde
supposed
aeainst thin the country would offerc)___Aioga
wall the putaton which tuth Pt "
t.