The Sun.
London, England, 1848-06-21 00:00:00

ROME.

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The last accounts received from Rome, to the
10th inst., by the Castor steam-boat, are of con-
siderable importance. She has brought the de-
claration of principles announced to the Roman
Chambers on the first day of their sitting,
by which the difficult problem of the separa-
tion of the spiritual from the temporal power has been
solved. The deputy Bonaparte having asked whe-
ther the declaration read to the Assembly was merely
the expression of the Ministry, or whether it was the
expression of his Holiness wishing to recognize the
sacred and imprescriptible rights of the people, Signor
Mamiani, the Minister of the Interior, replied as
follows :—" The programme is the introduction of
the entire Ministry, of whom all the members have
participated in its composition, I consequently pro-
claim loudly that the declaration is the unanimous
expression of the Ministry, ratified and approved
entirely by his Holiness."

TRIESTE.

A letter from Trieste, of June 9, says—

" On Tuesday evening, the 6th instant, the Sardinian
fleet weighed and stood in for the town, with a very light
wind, keeping the English men-of war between them and
the batteries, until, at the request of the Trieste people,
the British ships, accompanied by the Asmon4s
(French frigate), weighed and stood over to
a little bay to the right of the town. Shortly after
they anchored out of gunshot. Just after sunset,
a brig belonging to the Sardinians drifted in and was
fired at by the batteries. Two steamers advanced to tow
her out, and they came in for a share of the pepper-
ing also. They likewise, I suppose, in the excitement of
excessive valour, contrived to run foul of each other, and
in the morning both appeared without bowsprits, and
one without figure-head or cutwater. The figure has
been picked up, and now figures as a trophy in the centre
of the Exchange here.
"The promise given by the Sardinian Admiral that
Lloyd's steamers should be permitted to run was broken
on the first attempt. A packet started from Corfu on
Tuesday, and was sent in again, the Admiral refusing to
look at the certificates, and threatening to fire on her if
she was not off with all speed.
" On the evening of the 7th there was some firing
between twelve and four. A Sardinian steamer re-
connoitered near the town; what doing no one knows.
" A report existed yesterday that forty-eight hours'
notice of bombardment had been given by the Admiral,
but I cannot find there is any truth in it."

The Neapolitan fleet has not separated from the
Sardinian.

WEST INDIA MAIL.

The Royal West India mail packet Tay, Captain Sharp,
from the West Indies, &c., arrived at Southampton, and
landed her mails, under the charge of Lieutenant Densten,
R.N., Admiralty agent. The Tay brings 80 passengers,
among whom are Sir Henry Light (late Governor of Deme-
rara) and family. Her dates are—Vera Cruz, 16th May;
Tampico, 9th; Havannah, 28th; Jamaica, 23d; Bermuda,
6th June. The freight on board consists of 742,686 dollars
from Vera Cruz.

After a long arought copious showers had fallen, and were
likely to continue, at Jamaica. Jamaica papers say that no
crops of sugar will be grown this year nor evermore, if
Ministers resolve not at the last moment to modify the pre-
sent scale of duties. Some American slaves have claimed
their freedom by touching at Dominica.
The schooner Vigilant had arrived at Jamaica from
Belize, with dispatches from the superintendent to the
governor, requesting a reinforcement of troops, that
settlement expecting an attack by the Indians, who, it ap-
pears, had fallen upon Bolacar and burned down all the
houses. The inhabitants were obliged to take refuge in Be-
lize, which is in a state of excitement. Families are arriv-
ing every moment ; within the last few days 700 persons had
come into that place for protection. Five thousand pounds
had been voted at a public meeting, to be placed at the dis-
posal of the superintendent and council, for taking the neces-
sary steps in protecting the town.

TO THE SECRETARY OF THE
BRADFORD REFORM ASSOCIATION.
Sir,—On Monday, June 19, the debate was on the
Sugar Duties. Though continued to a late hour before it
was adjourned, it did not accomplish the throwing of light
on the course by which either good or evil was to be
done by voting in either of the ways before the House.
Strange fallacies and misapprehensions abounded on all
sides. One, on the Government's, was most extraordi-
nary, and was loudly cheered by the party it is customary
to call the political economists. This was, that the quantity
of sugar in the whole consumed in Europe, is a given
quantity, and therefore it is indifferent to a nation's or
an individual's conscience, whether slave-grown or free-
labour sugar is consumed; because to consume the one,
is only making room for consuming the other in some
other place. Always suspect these given quantities; we
have heard of them before. Try this argument by ap-
plication to common things. Say then, the quantity of
goods stolen and unstolen, is together a given quantity;
therefore it is indifferent to you and everybody whether
you buy the stolen or the other. If you pretend for con-
science sake to prefer the latter, you are only making room
for the stolen goods being bought by somebody else.
Therefore buy them yourself. This is the argument.
Everybody in the last case sees where the fallacy lies.
Even if it is true that the quantity of goods on the
whole is at two successive times a given quantity, it is
not true that the quantity of stolen goods and of un-
stolen is each a given quantity; and this, and not the
other, is what is necessary fur the truth of the Minis-
terial assertion. On the contrary, both stolen and un-
stolen goods have their respective markets and oppor-
tunities. Some people like the one and some the other;
and if you refuse to take the stolen goods, it no more
follows that the holder shall therefore find an equal
market for them somewhere else, than it follows that a
tradesman should be comforted by your withdrawing
your custom, at the same time assuring him that you
only make room for him to sell to some one else. Such
fallacies pass in Parliament and elsewhere, when they
suit men's purposes.
On Tuesday came on Mr. Hume's motion on the
suffrage. It was preceded by a storm of petitions, in-
dicative of non-assent to the Ministerial assertion that
the people did not care. One of the mover's first inti-
mations was, that he had by mistake omitted the word
" all," and that his object was to give the suffrage to
" all" householders. It is pity but this could have been
found out before; or that it could have been known it
was to be found out then. The replies of the two fol-
lowing speakers (Mr. Drummond and Lord J. Russell)
were rich studies for all the petitioners upon the subject;
and as such I recommend them. The stock objection to
Mr. Hume's motion appeared to be, that it did not go to
Universal Suffrage. The Minister further stated, tha t
he greatly preferred annual Parliaments to triennial. It
is to be hoped these two points will be remembered an-
other time. A Communist petition, presented by Lord
Ashley, was ably appealed to ; and it was inferred
that to listen to the proposed reform would be to esta-
blish the Noble Lord's petitioners in the seat of govern-
ment. The Chartists were skilfully played off, and de-
clared to be the majority among the Reformers. It is
very hard that the Ministers' ally in the City meeting,
should be obliged to give bail. The inequalities in the
electoral divisions were defended as pleasing varieties;
of the nature of what a man discovers when one debtor
pays him tea shillings in the pound, and another three-
sod-sixpence. And the commotions on the continent
were pointed to, as reasons why nothing should be done
to take down popular dissatisfaction here.
The Member for Oldham (Mr. Fox) made a
powerful reply for the working classes. It must be the
vault of the working classes, if with the men of acknow-
ledged ability they have among them, they do not make
a harvest out of this night's debate. The Member for
Buckinghamshire made such a speech as is to be desired
from an opponent amusing enough to ensure being
read, and carrying
everywhere the conviction of the
soundness of the other aide. His most serious argu-
ment was, that injustice must be perpetuated, because
governments can only be conducted by means of the
(lb; thrreheeace
traditional. And his effort was to ridicule the present
as " middle class" movement, and work on such jea-
aronetheiftlyrotuel
tousles of the working classes as may lead to a division
shapretwis Chartists atUhdeythwe
iwerkTinhge classesdebete
was adjourned at half-past one o'clock.
On the whole no damage was done; and the word in
the country should be to go on for the next appearance
of the debate. It was nominally adjourned to Friday;
but there are great odds against its resumption on that
day, so there is no need to stop for want of time.
I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
T. PERONNET THOMPSON.
Blackheath, London, June 21, 1848.

A deputation appointed at a publio meeting in St.
Pancras, on the subject of Protection from tire, waited
on Sir George Grey at the Home•eftico yesterday, and
had an interview with the Hon. Baronet. The
deputation was composed of Lord Dudley Coutts Stuart,
M.P., Sir Benjamin Hall, Bart., M.P., Mr. C. E. Wag_
staff (Churchwarden), the Rev. Henry Hughes, M.A.,
Messrs. Haworth, Long, Roberts, Fuggo, and Wirell.
Dispatches were sent off last evening from the Cobo-
l:LW-ace for the Governors of the West India Colonies.

MONEY and COMMERCIAL NEWS.
CITY, QUARTER TO THREE.

The Cotton Market at Liverpool, yesterday, was steady,
with a fair demand. American qualities at 3% per lb. were
rather firmer, but in other sorts there was no change. Sales
5,000 bales, of which 1,000 were American on speculation.
The Railway Share Market was quiet, and prices generally
were lower.
There are various arrivals to-day from east and west.
The report of the mercantile markets in India is very satis-
factory, considering past events, and money was decidedly
easy. The affairs of the unfortunate Calcutta Bank were
still the general theme of conversation, but it is impossible
to say how the depositors will come off. There was a strong
disposition to force the shareholder* to pay wherever they
possessed means, to the fullest extent.
We can hardly expect arlything favourable from the West
Indies, and are consequently not disappointed at the tenor of
the accounts before us. In nearly all the islands money was
very scarce, and there was a conviction that the expenditure
must be greatly reduced. The weather generally was
favourable, but there were parts in which rain was greatly
needed. The affairs of the West India Bank progressed but
slowly, and the bad debts were found to be heavier than was
expected.
The Hibernia steamer 'is telegraphed as having ar-
rived off Liverpool, but we shall probably have no letters
to-day.
The Corn Market is steady to-day fur wheat, but spring
grain is lower.
In the Funds business is very slack to-day, and prices are
not so good. The intelligence of the reported defeat of the
Italians has an effect in checking business, but the pro-
ceedings of Parliament are not without their influence.
Consols realised 83% V. ex. dividend. The New Three-and-
a-Quarter per Cents. have been 84 to i ; Bank Stock is
worth 191. Exchequer-bills are 40s. premium.
The if:oeign Securities have been flat again. Spanish
Three Or Cents. have realised 24. Portuguese Old Bonds
are 62 ; Mexican Bonds have been 16% to %; Russian are
firm at 90}; Dutch Two-and-a• Half per Cents. have fluc-
tuated from 427 to 4314.
Railway Shares have been very quiet, and not buoyant.
BRITISH FUNDS TiHS DAY AT ON.E O'CLOCK.
(From the Official List.)
Bank Stock 191
3 per Cent. Reduced Annuities .. 83%3/4
New 314 per Cent. Anas. 84%
Long Annuities, Exp. Jan. sth, 1860 ... 8%
Do. 30 Years, Expire Oct. 10,1859... 8!4 5.16
India Stock
Do. Bonds, 10001 ...... 19 p
Ditto under 1.0001
Consols for Opening 83%%
Exchequer Bills. 2%c1.
1,0001.
5001. 4O
Ditto Advertised, June
PRICE OF FOREIGN FUNDS AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Mexican Bonds, 1846, 5 per Cent...- 161,4%
Ditto for the Account 16%
Peruvian Bonds, 6 per Cent 311,E
Portuguese Bonds, 5 per Cent 62
Russian Bonds, 1822, 5 per Cent 90%
Spanish Bonds, 3 per Cent 2214
Ditto for the Account 224y4%
Dividends on the above payable in London.
Dutch 21,4 per Cent.,l2 Guild 43 42% 4314
Ditto 4 per Cent. Certificates
BUSINESS DONE IN RAILWAY SHARES AT ONE O'CLOCK
RAILWAYS. PAID. Pra Saw.
Aberdeen ..................... ... b 0 ..... - •••••• to -
Amber., Notting., Boston, lee. 394 ...... - -
Ayrshire and Galloway - to -
Belfast and County Down .. 14% .. •.. - -
Birmingham & Oxford Junc... 20 . 23%% to 23
Birmingham, W 01,,& Dudley 10 .... - -
Birming., Wol.,
.8e Stour Val. 121.45. ... - -
Birkenhead, Lancashire, and
Cheshire Junction..
Boston, Stamf., & Birming... 5 - ...... to -
Bristol and Exeter -
Do. Thirds - to -
Buckinghamshire.... l4/. 4s - to -
Caledonian i 5O 30%%... to -
Ditto, Half Shares - ...... to -
Ditto. Clydesdale Junction 50 - to -
Chester and Holyhead.- ..... 42% ..... - -
Ditto, Preference - to -
Clarence. .... 78% ..... - -
Do., Ist Class, 6 per Cent... 10 - • ... to -
D0.,2d Class, 5 per Cent... 10 - to -
Do., Gov. Loan, 4 per Cent. 10 - ...... to -
Direct London & Portsmouth 5% - to -
Dublin and Belfast Junction.. 27% - to -
Dundalk and Enniskillen ... 17% ...... - -
East Anglia, 25/. L. & E.,
aid L. & D ... 25 - ...... to -
Ditto, 181., E. & H. lB -
Ditto, 31. 10s., E. & H... 3% - to -
Eastern Counties .... 2O -
Do. New Guarant. 6 per Ct. 2% 3% to -
Do. Perpet., 5 per ct.N 0.1, 6/. 13s. 4d... - -
Do., do N 0.2,6/. 133.4 d... - -
Do., Northern & Eastern... 50 -
Do., 5 per cent.
Do., Quarter 12%... - - -
Do., New -
Eastern Union, "Haas A (late
E. U. Shares) ...... ... .. 25
Ditto, ditto, Class A, ditto 1 - to -
Ditto, do, Class B (1. & B) 17% - to -
Ditto, do, Class C, ditto... 17% - to -
Ditto Scrip (gua. 6 per ct.) 10 - -
Ditto, ditto ...... ............ 20 ...... - -
Ditto (C. & F.), 5 per ct. 2%
East Lancashire - .... . to -..
Ditto, New ..- ..•...... •17 -
Do., New Quarters - to -
East Lincolnshire ..... to -
Edinburgh and Glasgow 5O - to -
Ditto, Halt Shares -
Ditto, Quarter Shares 12% -
diuburgh and Northern ... 25
Ditto, New....... ...... 614 ...... to --
Ditto, New port...-. ........ 13
Ditto, ditto, New 33A
Exeter, Yeovil, & Dorchester 2% - ...... to -
Ditto, New - to -
Glasg., Dumfries, & Carlisle..Bl. 65.8 d... - to -
Glasgow, Kilmarnock, & Ayr 50 ...... - -
Ditto, New - -
Do. Preference Consolidated 15 ..... - -
great Northern ... 15 -
Do. Loudon & York Exten. 2% - ...... to -.
Gt. South. & West. (Ireland) 40
Great North of England 100
Ditto, New 401 IS - to -
Ditto, New 30/. -
Ditto, New 151-- ... ..... 11%...... - . -
Great Western 9O - to -
Ditto, Half Shares
Ditto,-_-53/4.. -
Ditto,2o - to -
Do.VA.. ... 7% to
-
HuddersfieldLeppvDedoioitst..tt,,t;onNxssrieQtwge'eiuhwint'artites,h7atsinedr Shares Manchester - . to -
Ditto, Thirds 9 - to -
Hull and Selby
Ditto, Half Shares . ......... 25 ...-. 49k to
Ditto, Quarter Shares ..... .. 12% - to
Lancaster and Carlisle.... .... 50
Do. Thirds lO ...... -
to-
Lancashire and Yorkshire ... 93
Ditto, ditto .................. 86
Ditto Half
eSnhtahrees..... ... ........ 43 - to
Ditto Quarters 17% ..... - ... .. to -
Ditto Fifths
614 - ..... to
Ditto Thirds (Reg.) -
Do.,oDH‘N,TteawwlkifsuebsGet:arasadrcre,r.svi6po)pnet.re.f.cr.ea.n..et.t,.. 2%2
Do. Liverpool and Bury... 4,8 - . ... to
Do. (Rudders. and Shelf.) 38 - ..... to -
and Goole ....... .. ....... 50 - -
Do., West Riding Union... 6 .... . -
Do., Preston and Wyre ... 25 - to -
Do., do., lialfy,Stharmeasne(hAws).
si %
..
...
8-2 to -
Leeds and Bradford -
to -
D0.,22 % - to -
Leeds and Thirsk ......... ..... 45 - ...... to -.
Ditto! New ....... ..... .26 . .... 5 -
Do., de.,Prefer., 6 per Cent. 3%. .... -
Liverpool, Crosby, and Sout h-
port. • . 3% - to -.
Liverpool, Manchester, and
Newcastle Junction...-. 2% -
London #sz Blacioknw.al..l.
...
..
.....
..
....................
_4%3/4.- to -
Ditto,NBto .S2outhCo6asLtlsBos. 44.-
-30%%% Ito: =-
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and
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a.,itncleveLd.
..55-Epp i.
ee. Eighths... h. n.
Cent.s ..t ... . 4940
.................
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t 0
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and C°l: acien.no 20 -
1852 50 ....• •- -
Do.,Ggruearen.w6ipcehr..c.enit.2l.
1255.
4d...... •
824‘
t. t. -
eatern.....loo
18/ 17s 2d - ...... to -
121% 122 to 121
22 - to -
Da. New -
Do. Fifths -
Do. 40/. Shares...-L. &M 20 ...... - -
Do. 10/.... M. and B. (A.) 71/..... . - -
Do. 10/. .. M. and B. (B.) 7% - to -•
to -
wilranested rn13...C....).
45012%...... -.._
to -
Loppndioto.tnolan:
- to -
to -
Ditto,DD oo .. TieeNnn Tenths [Consolidated) -
to -
Consolidated) 50 ..... -
((consolidated) 40
~.,.. ............... 1%. - •
.... 1,(:,,
_-
Ditto Thirds
Lendoa, Salisbull""
t 0 -.
e... 27% -
- ..... to -
Londonderry
Lowestoft - -
- to -
8, ma oc
tl k 4 - to -
Manch, Buxton, d Linc.loo - to -
Manchr, Sheffield, en . ...
NI) -•• " "*"• - -
Ditto 1/1 Shares (-2,*
.... o 5
par
25
to -
Ditto,/ No. 3 /... •/. ...... - -
Ditto, % Shares v- 7%
pittodi (guar.
tto (6N Po
.Srzc: .... :1.... ---
to
to -
Ditto Grimsby •••• .....
- -
Ditto, ditto. ..... .... ......
(gulalard. 4L
... 9
5%. .. - -
-
Ditto, ditto .....•••' .. * ..... 10
...: .... _
And Linc-
15 - to
-
Ditto, Grimsby Dock ..••••
4/ 2sto -
& • Union • • ... -
Ditto, Man. Lin.
ton 21,4 - Do., New 10/. Prefere
... c.......
30 :.__
_
to -
Ditto, Consul. Preferenc
.. 0015
814 ...... to
Ditto, 50/. Shares•-• ....• -
and Derby...luu -
......
to
......
Almanidicanhe.sd.t.e.r.an...d.S..o.a..t.h..am..pe...
..
.......
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to 99%
Midland, Birm.,
Bristol and Glouc. 36 - -
I 3 6d... -
Midland, Leices. and Swaa-
.. 11 • s. ...
Ditto ditto ................
.100
...,
Midland,Midland,
Birmingham,
6 Bristol
per
cent..' an
100
...... to -.nington (8 per ct- gl'a')':•.
_
....- •
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to
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- ... to --
Newcastle and Carlisle ...•••1W 0 g
mll.l
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ddedlrdi .ocseGbnrrt.ooa,gut Waanred.s t.eit.rn.0.i.(..a.1.n5.r...n.
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Ditto Quarter Sha
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Rostrever .......... ......... . • --.
...- ...... to 11
NNoerwryt Norfolk, Warrenpoint, and
1_
-
Ditto New 20/.
20 -
Ditto Extension -
Do. Guaranteed 5% per ct 6 .. ... -
t0tt:,.........1 1
Do.Serip,lB47, N.of Nora 2 - ...... to
Do. do. Waveney Valley... 2 - ..... to -...
DDoiNorth
Northern Quarters
uarai
British
Counties
Snares. • Union.
..
.. .. .
12425% ................ -__
614...... - ... • to --
Ditto, Eztemeim % ..... . -.. -