The Sun.
London, England, 1848-06-03 00:00:00

CHARTISTS.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from a
society of Odd Fellows, praying for protection to trade,
and in doing so the Noble Lord took the opportunity of
directing their Lordships' attention to the disgraceful
scenes which the streets of London had exhibited during
the last few days. The system of processions which had
been resorted to was most abominable, and ought at
once to be put a stop to, for it had a direct tendency to
bring the sober-minded, industrious, and peaceable popu-
lation of London into contempt, not only at home but
abroad. Besides, the proceedings of the parties who got up
these processions being highly objectionable, when secret
signs, like publishing on a large placard the words " 29th
of May," were resorted to, it was high time that the
strong arm of the law was brought into operation, to
force them to be more candid and open in their move-
ments. He would say nothing about: the: object
these parties had in view, but be it good or bad, he
hoped it would never be attained while they had recourse
to these intimidating proceedings. For the last week
much of the retail trade of the metropolis had been put
a stop to, and he trusted that immediate measures would
be taken by her Majesty's Government to prevent a
recurrence of these processions:,
The Duke of WELLINGTON said it was disgraceful
that, for the last four days, the town should have been
under arms, and he thought that those persons who
called crowds together should be responsible in their
pockets for the consequences, be those consequences
the breaking of windows or the destruction of '
property. They were assembled nightly to listen
to orators inciting to the assassination of the
illustrious individual on the throne, and of all other
persons who might have lent their aid to the apprehen-
sion and conviction of a felon.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was rejoiced to state
that the precautions which had been taken by the Govern-
ment had preserved the public peace. Those processions
which had been attempted had been stopped in every
part of the metropolis, and the police had been found
sufficient to preserve the peace; but he thought that
those proceedings ought not any longer to be suffered.
He certainly had seen the placard of the 29th of
to which allusion had been made; but he had been in-
formed that that mysterious placard was merely in
tended to invite the public to attend the opening of
Cremorne Gardens.
The Duke of RICHMOND suggested
i that the ma-
gistrates should carry the law properly into effecti b y
committing persons brought before them for Lhartist
rioting to trial, and it was the duty of the. Government
to indict them for interrupting the police in the execution
of their duty as a duty which they owed to the police
force. He was sure that the attention of his Right Hon.
Friend who so ably presided over the Home Department,
would be called to this subject. He should recommend
the Chartists not to go on night after night keeping
soldiers under arms. Soldiers were men, and if they
were let out, it might be hard to restrain them.
Lord DENMAN said that Mr. Justice Patteson
had in his charge to the grand jury to-day
explained to them the law on the subject.
Speechesinciting to the commission of felony
constituted a grievous misdemeanour, and ought
to be severely punished ; and it was a most questionable
proceeding on the part of those desirous of further re-
form to agitate the people at this crisis. He was an
old reformer, but he considered that those who agitated
the public mind at this crisis were undoing all reform.

SPAIN.
Lord STANLEY rose to call the attention of the
House to the papers which had been laid upon the table
on the subject of the differences with Spain. He
complained of the omission of the statement made
by the Government of Spain of the reasons which
had induced them to adopt the step of sending to
the British Ambassador his passports. He wished
to know whether any communication had been
received from the Spanish Government, stating the
grounds of the expulsion of Sir H. Bulwer, and if such
communication would be laid before the House.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that since the
papers had been laid before the House some explanation
had been received through the only legitimate channel
through which it could be received, of the grounds
on which the Spanish Government had acted ;
that explanation was anything but satisfactory, and the
correspondence was not yet closed; but the moment the
Spanish Government had afforded all the explanations
that could be afforded no time would be lost in bringing
them before the House, and whenever those papers
came under discussion, he trusted he should satisfy their
Lordships that no papers had been improperly omitted
from the papers laid before their Lordships.
IRELAND.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he had to lay on
the table papers with reference to Ireland, and as re-
peated inquiries had been made in that House with re-
spect to transactions in Ireland, he:would state what was
the amount of relief and assistance afforded to Ireland,
and what were the measures contemplated for mitigating
the distress there. In the whole of the two years the
sum of 8,787,000/ had been advanced for the service of
Ireland, which included the amount of 339,0001. which
had been advanced for the purpose of promoting rail-
roads in that country. He was not about to vindi-
cate the application of these loans in every re-
spect to which they had been applied, but great
good, he had no doubt, had been effected by
the loans to railways. He would now explain what
was the present state of the assistance to Ireland. He
thought the real regenerating principle to be applied was
to be found not in large advances from this country, but
in the awakened spirit of exertion in Ireland herself.
In those districts where seed could not be procured the
distress was still great. In addition to the poor-law,
which had proved to a great degree effective for its pur-
pose in having spared a great amount of human life,
very considerable assistance had been afforded by the
" British Relief Association," carrying on its operations
of charity and benevolence upon a scale greater than
was ever knowa before in any country, and under a
system of management the most perfect, and which had
induced the Government to avail themselves of their
machinery to administer the amount of aid that might be
required in particular parts of the country in training and
educating children. 201,100 children had been thus pro-
vided for. (The Noble Marquis then read from a report
proofs of the great benefit afforded by the British Relief
Association, which had expended upwards of 62,000/.) The
Government had thought it desirable to see that where
the resources applied to the education of children, and
occasional assistance to unions, had failed, they should
be continued until after next harvest. As to the
loans which had been made to the Government,
they did not intend to ask for the payment of any
of the instalments until after the next harvest, and ap-
plication would be made to Parliament for the post-
ponement of these instalments. He could not help
calling particular attention to the services of the gentle-
man who for two years had devoted body and soul to
the administration of those funds, requiring the utmost
industry and care—he meant Count Zaleski, a Polish
nobleman, who had refused to take the smallest remu-
neration for his services. His exertions for the country's
weal had been far greater than that of many professed
patriots there.—(Hear, hear.) There was now a greater
amount of cultivation in Ireland than ever there had
been before. The Noble Marquis concluded by laying
the papers on the table.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM conceived, that though there
was much that was gratifying in the statement of his
Noble Friend, it was not altogether satisfactory. There
was but one mode of conferring permanent benefit upor,
Ireland, and effecting those changes in the condition of
the various classes in Ireland, but especially of the rural
population, which it was the duty of the Government to
bring about—that was a large and extensive measure of
emigration.

POOR-LAW (IRELAND).
On the motion of the Earl of LUCAN, the Select
Committee on this subject was nominated. _ _
PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS BILL.
Lord STANLEY moved the third reading of this Bill.
Lord CAMPBELL contended that the Bill was alto-
gether unnecessary: it was in fact not only. useless bu
mischievous, and all that it proposed to do might be done
by one
by a resolution of either House. He moved that it be
read a third time that day six months.
Lord LANGDALE spoke at some length, but in so
low a tone that whether in support or against the Bill it
was impossible in the gallery to hear.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE supported the Bill, which he
said would enable either House of Parliament, in the
case of a divorce or other Bill on which it might require
further information, to suspend it and resume it in the
following session, without requiring it to go again
through all the stages it had already passed. This would
be a great convenience, preventing unnecessary expense
and delay.
Lord REDESDALE repeated the objections which he
had urged on former stages of the Bill. He did not
think it would at all reach the evils for the prevention
of which it was intended.
Lord MONTE AGLE supported the Bill.
Lord STANLEY briefly replied ; and the Bill, with
one or two amendments, was read a third time and
passed.
Their Lordships adjourned at Half-past Eight o'clock

HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 2.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.
SUNDAY TRADING.
`lr. Sheriff Hill presented a petition at the bar
from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Corporation,
against Sunday trading.
The report of the Middle Level Drainage Acts Amend-
ment Bill was considered and agreed to.