The Sun.
London, England, 1848-06-27 00:00:00

G, JUNE 27, 1818.

Name of Company.

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Albion .. ...••• • • • • • • £ s. d. £ s. d.
31. 108. 500 0 0 50 Q 0 75
I Alliance Brit. and For. 6 per cent. 100 0 0 11 0 0 16:
• Ditto Marine. ••• • • • 6/. per cent, 100 0 0 50 0 --'
Atlas ... .. •
Clericl,Med.& Gen. Life 51. per cent 100 0 C 10 0 0 19
County .•••••.• • • • • • • 3/. lOC 8 10 0 0
[. Crown .............. 14s. 50 0 0 50 0 11
Nagle •• •
Eng.& Scot. Law •• •• 51. per cent. 50 0 0 212 6 -
nlEuropean Life ••• • • • 5% per cent. 20 0 0 All paid.
-
Family EndowEnn t Soc. 4/. & bs. 40 0 40 0
e Freemasons' .•••• • • • • 51. per cent. 20 0 0 30 0 2
GloLe - 115
cluardian ••.••• • • • • • • 51. per cent. 100 0 0 36 10 0 45
Imperial Fire •••• • • • • 12 per cent. 500 0 0 50 0 0 218
Imperial Life •••• • • •• 12s. 100 0010 0 0 15
" ~. Indemnity Marine ... • it. sh. & bs. 100 0 0 513 1 25
Law Fire -••••- - •• - 100 0 0 210 0 - e LAW Life ••••• • • • •• IL 58. 100 0010 0 0 44%
B
Legal and General Life - 50 0 0 200 41
Os
Lorgicn Fire •••• - •• 10s. 25 0012 10 0
• London Ship •.••• • •• 10s. 25 0012 10 0 13
1 Marine.. •••-•• . • .. - 100 0015 0 0 -4. Med. Invlid & Gen. Life 4% /. per ct. 50 0 0 20 0 2%
"gational Lean Fund.. 51. per cent. 20 00210 0 - I National Life• •.. - .•• 8/.per cent. 100 005 0 0 - Palladium Life 5l. per cent. 50 002 0 0 -
Pelican .. •.••• • • • •• - - - 36% • Ptimnix .. - - 154
, Pi otector Life ••.. • • • 54. per cent. 20 0 0 1 0 0 -
Provident Life...-. • • 1/. ss. 100 0 0 10 0 0 26
' Rock lAN.. .. .. .. .. 4s. 50 0 010 0 06
Royal Exchange •
51. per cent. Stock. -
Son Fire .. ....... • • ..• 61. 10s. - 162%
- -
Ditto Life ... - -I -
Universal Life .....•
25
VI, toria Lite . . - - 40 0 4
DOCKS.
Dividend Amount
Name of Company. per of Paid. Price.
Annum. Share.
, --- ---- •-•---- --
s. .
CAnmercial • . -
-
East and West India - 120
East Country • 255. per sh. 100 0 0 - 21
London . .... - 103
Ditto Bonds.. •••• • • 4/. per cent. - - -
St• Katharine .. ... •. • 4 per cent. Stock. - 76
Ditto Bonds." • • 4%1. pr cent. - - -
Southampton ••..• • • • . 2/. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 -
WATER-WORKS.
1 Dividend ' Amount
Name of Company. ' per of Faid. Price.
Annum. Share.
X d.
Birmingham. ••••• • • • I 18s. 25 s. 00£s. d.
50 0 -
East L0nd0n...... •• • • 81. 100 0 0 176
Grand Junction -.• • • 21. 10s. 41 13 4 - 81
5
New Rivr Lndn Brdge 21. 10s.
_...-- .15
Vauxhall ............ 5/. per cut. 11°0: -°0
: -
West Middlesex • . • , 61. Os. pr cnt. 63 12 9
- 117
GAS-LIGHT AND COKE COMPANIES.
Dividend Amount
Name of' Company, per of Paid. Price.
Annum. Share.
-- ----- --- ---
'X. s. d. X. s. d.
British .••••••• •• •• •• li. 40 0 0 18 0 0 16
Ditto Provincial.- I/. Bs. 20 0 0 19 0 0 22
Bristol ........ ••• • • • 101. per cent. 20 0 0 - -.
Brighton •••••••• •• .. 5/. percent. 120 0 0 - 16
City of London ...... 101. 100 0 0 100 0 0 250
ContinentalConsolidat. 925. pr share 50 0 0 39 5 0
Ditto, New ...... • • 85s. pr share 50 0 9 37 10 0 -
Equitable.-- .• •• • • 15s. pr share' 50 0 0 50 0 0 36
Imperial .... , ..... .. 6/. per cent. i5O 0 0 50 0 0 71
Independent ... .... •• 61. per cent. 140 0 0 40 0 0 64
London..,. .. .. .. - 50 0 0 80 0 0 -
- 50 0 0 50 0 0 -
Phoenix . •... .. ••• • .. 51. per cent. 50 0 0 46 0 0 29 •
Ratcliff ..... ...... • . 5/. and bns. 100 0 0 50 0 0 75
United General ••• • • • 4%1. pr cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 15
Westminster Chartered 3/, 50 0 0 - 5414
Ditto, New •••••• .. 12s. 50 0 0 10 0 0 10%

saying that he knew of no place which appeared so va-
luable an investment for capital, or where a man was so
fi likely to reali,e a fortune, as in Jamaica.—(Hear, hear.)
But the House should see what information that Noble
Lord was in possession of at the time when he lamented
the deplorable condition of the colony, and instanced
absenteeism as the real cause of that condition. The
colonists had intimated to him that if the same state
of things existed, the production of sugar could not be
carried on for another year. This was a remarkable and
an important document, yet it was altogether withheld
from the Committee.—(Hear. hear.) But more,
at the time the lion. Gentleman (Mr. Hume) stated,
that the Colonial office came only into possession
of general information as to the condition of the
colony. lie should read a dispatch to the House which
was dated on the 24th of September, and reached the
Colonial-office on the 22d October, three weeks before
he (Lord G. Bentinck) moved for a return with respect
to the island 9f Trinidad. He alluded to a dispatch
os.
4 from Governor Grey, and stated that he felt it his duty
to state that the low price of sugar in London, without
any corresponding reduction of duty, really threa-
tened to ruin many planters who were strug-
gling hard to keep their heads above water,
and he beheld the germs of a movement
towards supporting the party in the ensuing session
44 who advocated the principle of protection. He said he
should do his best to persuade them to a temperate
course of action, but he could not deny that the low
rate at which cotton was imported, and the duty of 14s.
on Muscovado sugar, together with other anomalies,
tended much to aggravate discontent in the colony.
This was not the only instance of concealment; he
alluded to the case of the Trinidad papers, which were
moved for on the 20th of November, and were not pro-
duced until the night on which the debate was concluded.
Ice. Returning to the month of April, he would make it
clear to the House that there was a guilty keeping back
- of this dispatch. The Committee closed its sitting on
the sth of April, and then adjourned. They met again
on Monday the Ist of May, and on the 2d of that month
he summoned them to receive the draft of the report.
On the ad he circulated copies among the members of
the Government. They met again on the 4th of May,
at three o'clock. It was a meeting pro forma, to pre-
_
sent the report. There were but a few Members pre-
sent. The Right Hon. Gentleman then said he wished
to know what impression the evidence had made upon
the Committee, and that although the Government
tee.
would not be bound by it, still that the opinion of the
Committee would have great weight with them. On
Thursday, the 4th, the Committee adjourned to the
Tuesday following, that Government might have the
opportunity of ascertaining what that epinion was.
On the 4th he received manuscript dispatches and
extracts from that of stipendiary Magistrate Sturt.
Why, then, were those dispatches alluded to by Go-
- vernor Light kept back, and that of Lord Barris, not
that of the sth May, but another of the 24th April, with-
held, which came to hand simultaneously with that of
Mr. Sturt? That was dated the 23d March. That
dispatch showed the bankrupt state of the treasury 'of
Trinidad, and contained other important information
with regard to immigration and the loan. There were
other dispatches kept back. The Committee got from
the Foreign Office dispatches of the 11th May and of'
the 10th March, from Rio Janeiro. All these were laid
before the Committee, by the Foreign Office, as soon as
they were freceived, and why had not the same thing
been done by the Colonial Office—(Hear, from the Op-
position benches)—as late as the sth May? The blue
book from Montserrat was of the sth April. Why was
that withheld ? That contained an account of the agri-
culture of the island, and details of the condition of several
of the estates. Wages were reduced to 5 1-sd. per
day. There were thirty-nine estates in the island, and
seventeen of these were either broken up or the culti-
vation greatly reduced. The House was, no doubt, tired
of these details. Now, although wages were reduced to
sd. and the one-fifth of a penny per day, President
Baines said that they approached the cost of cultivation
of the slave-growing countries, " longo intervallo," and
that they could not bring it to the same cost until wages
were reduced to the cost of the sustenance of a slave.
Now, bow could any one wish wages to be reduced lower
than they were stated to be in that colony? Well, that
dispatch was kept back. The Right Hon. Gentleman
seemed to think that the struggle in the Committee was
between two political parties, careless of the case of the
patients under their charge. Could he say that the Com-
mittee had not met him fairly—could he say that of the
Member for Droitwich, the Member for Cambridge, and
Lord John Manners? They had no mental reservation.
They frankly laid the evidence before him, to satisfy the
demand of the Government that they might be made
acquainted with their opinions. They opened their
breasts to the Government; but the great interests in-
volved in the question had not been fairly treated by
the Government, when such information had been with-
held from the Committee.—(Hear, hear.) The Com-
mittee met again on the 9th of May, and agreed to ad-
journ for nine days. They then met on the 4th of
June, and on Friday, the sth, he moved for more papers.
The Hon. Gentleman was not then in his place, and he
asked leave of the Secretary of the India Board to move
for them. The Hon. Gentleman afterwards apologised
for his absence on that occasion, and promised to move
fur those papers, and would decide what should be
copies and what extracts of dispatches from the Mau-
ritius. The lion. Gentleman, however, forgot to move
the address for those returns, though Mr. Miles asked
on that day whether the Government were ready to
bring forward the dispatches. Mr. Hawes replied that
every important dispatch would be laid before them before
the debate cause ou.—(" Hear," from Mr. Hawes.) The
Committee were then deliberating on the question. The
dispatch of the 27th March, from Sir Charles Grey,
with all its minutes, had not tben come before the Cour •
mittee, although the papers had been moved for on the
Bth May. How would they get over that? Now, it was
the duty of Earl Grey to select what should be copies
and what extracts. He then wished to know why this
dispatch, with four minutes on it, had been withheld on
the 9th May, papers which had been moved for on the
30th March? Why did not the Noble Earl inquire why
it had not been laid before the Committee ? Why not
ascertain where the fault of the delay arose? Why did
he not direct that it should be immediately laid before
the Committee, and at the same time apologise for the
detention ? It was intimated in that document that
the duty should be 2d. a pound, and ld. a pound on
sugar, or 9s. 4d. against 18s, 4d., but the Colonial-
office was mute and dumb. The Committee again ad-
journed to the 22d May, and in thirteen days after
they met again to consider a duty of 10s. against 20s.
proposed by Sir Charles Grey, of which they were
ignorant. The resolution prepared by the Chairman of
the Committee was thrown out, the Committee then
adjourned for four dais to consider their verdict, but
inquiries were made in the interval. He found on the
16th of May, that the Right Hon. Gentleman the Mem-
ber for Cambridge, asked if there had been any
accounts from Jamaica. What was the answer ? Not
that a mistake had been made seven days before
with regard to the dispatch from Sir Charles Grey, but
that they had not received the blue book. There was
one last resource ; the Committee met for the last time,
when they threw out the tenth resolution, proposed by
the Member for Cambridge, and supported by the
Member for Liverpool, and then the proposition of Sir
Thomas Birch, of a duty of ten shillings for three years,
adopted. Mr. Hawes then said there was no information
from the West Indies, but that they expected accounts
in a few days. He would ask, did he not evade the
question ? Did he not know that the balance weighed
in the Committee, the information being wanting
upon which the Member for Liverpool could
form his opinion? The Government regarded this
great interest' as a hostile party, and dealt with
it as with a criminal under prosecution by the Attorney-
General, and prosecuted it by suppressions of the truth.
That was his charge of the Under-Secretary for the Co.
lonies, and the President of the Board of Trade knew
that these dispatches were at hand, and withheld infor-
mation which would influence the vote of the Committee.
Then it was said that he charged the Under-Secretary
of the Colonies and the Noble Lord of fraud, who held
so high a position above such an imputation—(Hear,
hear, from the Ministerial benches)—his charge was a
political holding back of documents for a political pur-
pose.—(Hear, hear.) He imputed no sordid fraud to
the Noble Lord. There could be no suspicion of that
kind. But he felt himself justified in defending the in-
terests of his country, to arraign high Ministers of State
and to state that they forfeited the confidence which the
country had reposed in them. He made no charge of
fraud in any other sense. He then charged them with
great want of memory, and now he would add, with a
great want of sagacity, that they could not comprehend
that the dispatch they wanted was that which had been
cocketted by Mr. Cox, " this is the dispatch the Com-
mittee want."
Lord J. RUSSELL said he could not but think his
Hon. Friend was entitled to an answer to the questions
he had put to the Noble Lord that night ; and he (Lord
J. Russell) rose, not to make a reply to the Noble Lord's
long speech, but in order to elicit some reply on behalf
of his Hon. Friend. The Noble Lord, on a former night,
accused his Hon. Friend of keeping back n dispatch
from the Committee of which he was chairman, to which
charge his Hon. Friend replied by reading a minute
signed Earl Grey, dated March 30, ordering the
dispatch in question to be laid before the Committee.
On Friday last the Noble Lord said that those minutes
must have been concocted after his Hon. Friend's evi-
dence had been given before the Committee, and at the
end of his speech he quoted the sentiment of Mr. Burke,
that—" Plain good intentions are as easily discovered at
first view as fraud is surely to be detected at last." His
Hon. Friend then said that an allegation of that kind
was not to be met without previous notice, upon
which the Noble Lord said, " that if the minutes were
not got up "—that was to say, if a gross and disgraceful
fraud had not been committed by Mr. Fox, Mr. Elliott,
his Hon. Friend (Mr. B. Hawas) and Earl Grey—" sub-
sequent to the sth of April, the Hon. Gentleman was
troubled with the shortest memory that bad appeared
since the days of Majocchi, of green-bag memory."
And now, when his Hun. Friend made an explanation as
to the facts, and asked the Noble Lord to prove his
charges or to withdraw them, or else to have a Com-
mittee appointed to examine into their truth, what did
the Noble Lord do ? He favoured them with a long
speech, but as to the choracter or honour of his Hon.
Friend the Noble Lord had not said anything by which
the House could infer what his intentions were. As to
the minute, he had certainly said there was no doubt his
Hon. Friend was correct in his statement, but then
subsequently he seemed to say the contrary, and he
(Lord J. Russell) wanted to know whether the charge
of concocting it was withdrawn ? That was the first
question he put to the Noble Lord. Now, as
to the second point, the charge was perfectly intel-
ligible, and constituted what the Noble Lord called the
other horn of the dilemma—namely, " that if the minute
was not concocted after the sth April, the Hon. Member
must be troubled with a memory as short as that of
Theodore Majocchi, of green-bag notoriety," who, as
they were all aware, had acquired a character by trying
to deceive all the world in giving his evidence. Now,

his lion. Friend had given his answer before the CO'
rnittee in the sense in which he understood the question,
and even when subsequently taxed on this score in On
House he had appealed to the Right lion. Gentleman
the Member for Cambridge, when it turned out that be
had misunderstood him. But he (Lord J. Russell) Os
sure the Right lion. Gentleman would readily disttu•
guish between misapprehension and deliberate falsy
hood. Now, he asked the Noble Lord, did he meat, t°
withdraw the charge of having concocted the minute'
and in the second place, did he persist in the other
putation? If so, his Hon. Friend wished to have I
Committee to inquire into the truth of these charges!
and, in his (Lord J. Russell's) opinion, he was entitled
to one.
Mr. DISRAELI rose.
The SPEAKER reminded the Hon. Member that
there was no question before the House.
Mr. F. MACKENZIE moved that the House do DO
adjourn. _

The motion having been seconded,
Mr. DISRAELI said that it was unreasonable in the
Noble Lord, after having flamed his Noble Friend for
making so long a speech to expect him to rise
If his Noble Friend had not conveyed his meaning sr
ready to the House he might well despair of being able
to do so in any supplementary speech. The Noble Lord
opposite had risen with great alacrity to remind tee
House that the important point before it was the access,•
tion made by his Noble Friend the Member for Jii°!;
Lynn against the Hon. Member for Kinsale of baring
commnaitted a political fraud, by concocting or ii.e
tv
venting some c.r post facto minutes ; but tee
House would recollect when the Noble Lord
rose the other night he never once alluded „'" ~,
that point. He then rose in a state of some WI
ment in consequence, as be stated, of a charge a fraud
having been brought against the Government of sup'
pressing important information contained in dispatches'
and it was a subsequent observation of the Hon. geTs
ber for Kinsale which drew forth from his Noble
Friend the statement of the dilemma upon one or
other horn of which the Hon. Secretary must be irr
paled. lie had his choice—either he had concocted the
minute, or else he was troubled with a very short me'
mory. Well, he (Mr. Disraeli) believed that the
Member's memory was short.—(Cheers and laughter.)
This was, at all events, the least difficult conclusion,
seeing that the Hon. Member, when before the C 11;
mitten, was perpetually asked to produce a dispatch, 8.,
existence of which he as perpetually forgot. His °PIO
nion was that his Noble Friend had never intended
make the charge which bad been so much elaborate"
upon against the lion. Under-Secretary.—(o6.) T1!„e,
real charge against the Government was a sy steals";
suppression of important information.—(Hear;
The Hon. Under-Secretary asked whether his liewh'
Friend persisted is the odious charge of forging t;
minutes. His (Mr. Disraeli's) answer was, that t";
",;
charge had never been made, or, if it bad, bad been
most amply withdrawn.—(Hear, hear, and Oh.) rt
them look to the really important question. All
tor t/-
discussion had arisen because certain most important
patches had been withheld from the Committee on suge
planting, one of those dispatches, which bad come from
;
~.
the governor of a most important colony, recommending
a protecting duty of 102.—(Hear, bear.) Then th was another important dispatch from the Governor 0
Trinidad, which, from the same extraordinary circun?,:
stance, never was produced. But that was 11(4 11:1
There was another still from Berbice.—(Cheers,irce
laughter.) Here were three material dispatches which
might assist the Committee in forming a Governments
(Loud laughter from the Treasury benches)L---be utear.
a report, all of which had been most unaccountably a
held.—(Hear, hear.) Was not, then, the withholding
of these important dispatches at a most critical junern?
a fair ground of attack from a constitutional opP?eil r.
But even that was not all. He would now bring 6%,.
ward a case respecting the Chief Secretary of the,
O)
lonies respecting which (or he was very much mistineot
the public would call for information. On the 71", e,
February last that Noble Earl, speaking in another pla,.s
wished to fill that august assembly with the notion
Jamaica'
there was no reason yet to despair of Janis:Do.
that new social circumstances were developing 1""e
re
selves; new resident proprietors of a new race It
ark
springing up and investing vast capital in the land,eeok
that such were the men from whom England was to
forithe regeneration of Jamaica. The Noble Earl farthert.
held this out as an inducement for the increased inves
meat of British capital. The Noble Earl's words were
tr
reported to have been these :—" Among many
ments which had passed through his hands respec
ire
tingthe colonies, he had been very much struck with $
morial from certain planters of Jamaica, stating 071,
they had invested 142,0001. in the purchase of their
estates. He believed that in a few years they would
see the soil cultivated entirely by planters who were
resident on their estates." Now, this docuniene,
which the Noble Earl had described as a most iinrr
tent document, but from which he had quoted so inn!,
grely, ran as follows :—" Your memorialists are owner'
of 19 and renters of 13 sugar estates, which, together,
produce 2,796 hogsheads of sugar and 1,354 PO:
cheons of rum, the production of which altogether
will cost 60,000/. Now, 15/. per hogshead fur Bug.'"
and 14/. per puncheon for rum will produce altos.
gether 60,5801. against the capital sunk, taken at 6 Per
cent.—the usual interest in the colony-32,0001 for lie;
plements on the nineteen proprietary estates, and 95,0001.
for rental on the other thirteen." Now the Noble Earl,
in endeavouring to persuade the assembly of the reseed'
tation of Jamaica through the exertions of a new race
if planters, should not have omitted this paragraphs--
"It will be evident, from the facts stated, that-we cannot
cultivate for another year. Indeed, we have not means
of taking up the present crop."—(Loud cries of " Hear,
hear.") These were the men of whom the Noble Earl
had boasted as having invested 142,0001. in the purchase
of land in Jamaica subsequent to emancipation. The
memorialists went on to point out that if they, resident
proprietors and planters, were in such a plight, what
must be the condition of absentees and mortgagees who
were represented; by agents. Now, this was the docu-
ment to which the Noble Lord bad referred as proving
that the restoration of Jamaica was going on, and that
the island offered inducement for the further invest'
meht of British capital. How could be find words
to describe the conduct of that Minister who, receiving
documents from the colonies, mutilated them to serve his
purpose, and used them to corroborate views which they
were intended to confute?—(Hear hear.) Looking s_
this circumstance, together with the suppression of tb;
three dispatches, he considered that Noble Friend
was fully justified in asserting that there was a sYete;
matic attempt on the part of the Government to supPre'_
and pervert colonial information.—(Hear, hear.) Another
case was that of Governor Higginson's dispatch, every
line of which the Noble Earl had designated as 03°'
important, but of that he only quoted as much as sur
ported his own opinion.—(Hear.) One part of Gererilr
d
Higginson's dispatch ran thus--" It must be conceeu,
that free-grown sugar can never render such a rota
as that produced by foreign slaves." Why bad those
e
lines been left out?—(Hear, bear.) Were not thf
omissions he had complained of strong symptom! t
a wish to repress all information which bore agetns)
the Noble E trl's opinions?—(Cries of " Hear. bear'na
The Honourshle Member having alluded to Lor
Harris's despatch, which his already been so fully.d!'"'
cussed, proceeded to say that, to all these charges, ms-
ters had commenced their defence by pleading
their allegation being that their offence was a blunder'
not a crime.—(Hear, hear.) He thought that nothing
could be more enormously ridiculous than their position.
—(Cheers and laughter.) It was very convenient for!
Government to deprecate discussion, and to censure 0;
inquiry as in bad taste. Nothing could possibly be most
indelicate than asking a man questions which be didut
find it convenient to answer.—(A laugh.) Buttue-a
were questions which must be answered. He believe 0
that that discussion would make an impression elsewhere
—that " elsewhere " to which the lion. Under Secretary
had so confidently appealed. Elsewhere" it would
said that there were some facts of a very suspicious
meter which must be explained. " Elsewhere "it guilty,
woe "t
be remembered that three important dispatches had no
been produced before the Sugar Committee; and "
where" it would not be forgotten that the noble Secrets."'
of State had held up Jamaica as a desirable place for in
vestments of capital.—(Cheers and laughter.) The bbe e
were all facts which would tell " elsewhere; and of
had that confidence in the good sense and spirit
it •
" elsewhere" to believe that they would not find fan
with a Member of Parliament who attempted honestlY.,,,
,7:
do his duty and to elicit truth, and who
was not aft. his
position, necessary, to impeach a Minister, however big"
position, bright his honours, or long his pedigree. be.
Mr. V. SMITH complained that the Hon. Aren3the
for Bucks had evaded the main question, which Ive,e,,,ied
charge against the Colonial-office of having cco°,7 ble
certain minutes.—(No.) The observations of the
Lord in plain English meant a charge of forgery' id
(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member for Bucks bad ssif
that his Noble Friend bad withdrawn the charge-,
he had done so, he (Mr.. V. Smith, consider' Tit
he
had done so in a very unhandsome manner. thought
that the Noble Lord should either withdraw
his charge
or put himself in a condition to prove it.—Gear' hear.)
The second charge was that his Hon. Friend's (mrr.
,
Hawes) memory was shorter than anything on ree
since the celebrated case of Theodore Msjoccbi- Ind
who was that Majocchi ? The greatest liar the wnket
had ever produced. "Ferdinand Mendez Pinto was ",
a type of him."—(Laughter.) Were such things to u:
asserted of an Hon. Member of that House and ue"
either fully proved or frankly withdrawn ?---(iielra
hear.) He thought that these personal questions should
be settled before they entered into the general question
which had been stated by the Hon. Member for BO'
relative to a general and systematic suppression of fee"
by the Colonial-office.—(gear.)
Sir J. PAKINGTON said that his Noble -Friend
the Member for Lynn had distinctly stated that after
what had fallen from the Hon. Under Secretary be
could not make any imputation against the minutes,
and the Hon. Member had taken off his hat in the
manner in which lion, Members were were used to do
when satisfied.

Mr. HAIYES—That was. to the Hon. Member for
Buckinghamshire, not the Noble Lord.
Sir J. PAKINGTON had seen the Hon. Member do
so to the Noble: Lord.—(Hear.) He
(Sir J. Pakingten)
could assure the Hon. Member that he completely excul-
pated both himself and the Noble Earl at the head of the
colonial department from any such charge as that of
altering minutes. All he meant to aver was, that in the
matter of these dispatches there had been grave neglect
somewhere.—(llear.) Having recapitulated the facts
respecting the dispatches, the Hon. Baronet concluded
by observing that in such proceedings there must have
been intentional suppressions or very grave blunders.
Sir G. GREY complained that the Hon. Baronet also
had attempted to divert the attention of the House from
the question really before it. What was the real ques-
tion? His hon. friend the Under Secretary for the Colo-
nies feeling that a charge had been brought against him
on Friday night deeply affecting his honour, had come
forward with an explicit statement of facts, and also to
ask the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn eithor to