The Sun.
London, England, 1833-07-20 00:00:00

SINECURES.

Mr. HARVEY gave notice that he would, on the Civil
List being brought under the consideration of the House,
move that all pensions not appearing to have been merited
by public services should be struck off from it.
THE POST•OFFICE OPENING LETTERS.

Mr. WALLACE gave notice that he meant on Monday
next to submit to the House a motion on the right exer—
cised by the functionaries at the General Post-office to
open and inspect letters.
THE EAST INDIA CHARTER BILL.

The House then resumed the Committee on the Eat
India Company's Charter Bill.
The 89th clause having been put,

Mr. FRENCH supported the clause.
Mr. O'DW YER opposed it on the ground that it would
enable the Government of India at any future period to
increase their episcopal establishment, not according to the
wants of the people, but in proportion to the extension of
their territories. _ .

Sir M. W. RIDLEY should vote for the clause, as it
would entail no additional expense, and was intended
merely to alter titles of dignity.
Mr. RUTHVEN could see no reason for burdening
India with a Church Establishment when its effects had
been so injurious at home.

Lord MORPETH, though the representative of a large
body of Di.senters, should support the clause. He knew
his constituents would not blame him for the vote he
meant to give, as its object was the furtherance and spread—
ing of religion.
Mr. MAXWELL could see no reason wby the House
should reject the clause.

Mr. WILKS moved the addition of certain words
exempting from the superintendence of the Bishops mis-
sionaries, priests, and schoolmasters not being members
of the Church of England.
Mr. R. GRANT opposed the amendment, and it was
withdrawn.

The 90th clause was agreed to.
On the 97th clause being moved, which granted a
retiring pension of 500/. to Bishops after a residence of
fifteen years,
Mr. HUME proposed to extend the term to twenty
years.

Mr. HALCOMB wished no time to be specified.
Mr. R. GRANT supported the original clause, 4nd it
was carried.

On th 102,1 clause being moved,
_ _ .

Mr. SHELL objected to the allowance to the Bishops
for visitations, but after some discussion the clause was
agreed to.
Upon the next clause, regulating the allowance to Arch—
deacons, a conversation ensued, in which Mr. HUME
said that upon the report, unless the duties of Archdeacons
should b specified to him, he should move to strike out
the clause.
Clause agreed to.

Mr. GRANT moved a new clause, providing that two
chaplains in each Presidency should be of the Church of
Scotland, and have the same salaries as military chaplains.
Mr. A. JOHNSTONE proposed that these chaplains
should be under the control and direction of the Presby-
tery of Edinburgh.
Mr. GILLON objected to the exclusion of Dissenters
from the Church of England, and would take the sense of
the Committee upon the clause.
A discussion ensued, which ended in the Chairman
stating that as the clause was a new one the further con-
sideration must be postponed to the end of the Bill.
Clause 103 was then agreed to.

Mr. C. GRANT then proposed the introduction of a
clause tn eking provision that at least two chaplains at
each of the presidencies should be ministers of the Church
of Scotland, with salaries equal to those of military
chaplains.
Mr. A. JOHNSTONE suggested that in such case
such chaplains should be placed under the control and di-
rection of the Presbytery of Edinburgh and the Pro-
vincial Synod.
Mr. GILLON objected to the total exclusion of Dis-
senters from the Church of Scotland from the proposition
of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and expressed his deter-
mination, unless provision were made for that body, to
take the sense of the Committee upon it.
Mr. C. FERGUSSON saw no reason for placing Dis-
senters from the Church of Scotland on a better footing
than Dissenters from the Church of England.
Sir J. MAXWELL thought that Christians of all per-
suasions should be allowed every opportunity of propagating
their opinions in India.—(Hear.)
Mr. SHEIL proposed an amendment to the clause, to
make it lawful for the Directors of the East India Com-
pany to provide for Members of the Roman Catholics, and
all other denominations of religion, due regard being held
.o the amount of population. The Hon. and Learned
Gentleman having proposed his amendment,
The CHAIRMAN suggested that, as the clause did nat
originally belong to the Bill, the Committee were precluded
from the discussion of it. When the Committee was
er•.ded it would be competent for the Right Hon. Gentle-
man to bring op the clause.
The clause was accordingly withdrawn.
On the 104th clause (relating to the establishment of
Hayleybury College) being proposesi,
Mr. C. W. WYNN recommended that the considera-
tion of the whole subject to which it referred, being of the
highest importance, should be postponed until the next
session, and in the meantime undergo inquiry before a
Select Committee.

Mr. C. GRANT did not think t e clause contained
[natter of such importance that it could not be adequately
Aiscusseri by the present Committee, and therefore could
tint consent to adopt the suggestion of the Hon. Gentleman.
On the CHAIRMAN proceeding to read the clause,

Mr. C. FERGUSSON stated that the establishment of
dayleybury College had entailed an expenditure of
10,0001. a year to the Company without affording any
thing like an adequate return. He thought that a degree
ofa ctii'veilHoaupspeoiunptomneni: in India, Ind
obtained nt a University ought to be deemed more than
t sufficient proof that its possessor bail received a proper
f tc:inadtidaatuesn!iovreraspitpyoi:eti
elucation. But if any further certificate was found re-
quisite,possessor
why should not the Company have their own
examiners as qualificationtoth.tj:Lh:edA,ey
inent4 in India ? Should the clause be persevered in, I,„,
contended
4.4,Nraoe:euil,rdfiv.
at ttsaielkdbi eyA
tct.ohoAe
as to the additional test suggested by
nourable Gentleman, namely, that of an examination

'before an examiner appointed by the Company, be was
of opinion that it would be found inefficient, as very few
'men would he found with sufficient confidence in their
•own individual opinions of a candidate's qualification to
-saywhetber he was competent or not, and thus, perhaps,
decide. upon his prospects for life. The principle of com-
pention as opposed to patronage was that on which the
clause depended, and on that principle he took, and
'would continue to take, his stand.—(Hear.)
Mr. C. W. WYNN again urged the propriety of refer•
ring the subject to a Select Committee; but suggested, if
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. C. Grant) still differed
from him in opinion, that, instead of vesting all the patro-
triage of cadetships in the Board of Control, two resen-
tations should he assigned to the Universities of Oxford,
Cambridge, and Dublin, and four to the Scotch Univer.
skits in rotation, according as vacancies should occur.
Lord ALTHORP contended that the system of educa-
tion pursued at Hayleybury College afforded the best
'means of ascertaining the fitness of candidates for ap-
pointments, and would therefore give his support to the
clause as it stood.

Mr. WARBURTON was fully of opinion that that
Nystem which best kept up the principles of competition
ought to he adopted in preference to any other ; and a,
the system at Hayleybury College appeared to attain that
object, he was willing to give the clause his litst ,uppart.
Mr. C. GRANT saw no prospect of any system of
education offering greater prospects of instruction in those
branches which a civil appointment in India rendered
perfectly desirable than that pursued at Hayleybury being
attainable, and therefore felt instified in pressing it to a
division.

Sir R. INGLIS approved of the plan, because he did
not think it would deprive the Beard of Dirt ctors of the
control they ought to have.
Mr. HUME contended that continuing the College
would limit ins'tead of extending the competition, which it
ought to be the object to encourage. However well
informed The young men brought up at this College
might b'e, they were ignorant of all worldly knowledge,
and, ttierefore, wholly unfit for the discharge of important
public duties.
Mr. TODD fully agreed that the door of competition
-ought to be opened as widely as possible.
Mr. C. FERGUSSON did not care where the party
was educated; what he wanted was that they shoold be
ptoaerly qnalified.
Mr. MACAULAY said that unless young men were
certain of a writes ship at the end of their stodi-s, they
never would undergo the labour of acquiring the informa-
tion that was indispensable.

NIARJORIBANKS fully concurred in this opinion.
He should vote for the clause.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY was satisfied that the Bard
of Control wookl take good c ,re to guard against the ap-
pointment of unqualified persons.
-Mr. R. GRANT did not see bow it would be pos-
sih!e to make any better arrangement than that proposed
by the clause.
Mr. LYALL said that they ought not for a moment to
forget the importance of the principle of competition. It
was perfectly necessary that none but qualified persons
should be appointed writers. Parties who failed in their
examinations might be sent into the military or other
service of the Government, and this he thought would get
rid of the objection.
The clause was then agreed tn.
The 105th and to the 109th clauses were agreed to
without observation.

On the 110th clause being pot,
Mr. WARBURTON complained that there was nn pro-
vision contained in the Bill for enforcing the Company to
lay annually their financial accounts before Pat liarnent.
Mt.. C. GRANT replied that the Company were, by
existing Acts, required to render annual accounts. Those
Acts were not intended to be repealed.
-Mr. WARBURTON thought the better way would he
to repeal those Acts, and insert in this Bill a provision for
the purpose.
Mr. linmE and Sir H. WILLOUOIIBY fully concurred
in this opinion.
The clause was then agreed to, as was also the 111th
dame.
On the 112th clause being put,

Mr. HUME expressed it as his opinion that the ex-
penses of maintaining the island of Sr. Helena should be
defrayed out of the Indian revenues, and not borne by this
country.
Mr. C. GRANT said the island of St. Helena was of
so much importance to the commerce of this country with
the East generally, and China in particular, that be did
not see how it would have been possible to charge the re-
venues of India with its maintenance.

The clause was then agreed to, as was also the 113th
(the last) clause.
_ .

The 26th clause, which bad been postponed, was struck
out of the Bill.

The 75th, postponed clause, fixing the salaries of the
Governor- General and other members of the Government
of India having been put,
Mr. C. GRANT said it was inteneed to give the Go-
vernor-General a salary of 240,000 sicca rupees, each
member of the Council 96,000 sicca rupees, the (lover
nors of subordinate provinces 120,000 sicca rupees. and
the members of subordinate Councils 60,000 sicca rupees.
•Mr. HUME thought that as they were reducing the
expenses of the minor departments they ought to carry
their reductions into the major.
Mr. R. GRANT replied that by the Act a power of
further reductions, if deemed right, was given to the Go-
vernroent at home.

Mr. HUNIE then proposed, as an amendment, that the
salary of the Governor-General should be 20,000/. a-year,
instetal of 25,0001.

After a few w•irds from Lord SANDON and Sir R.
INGLis, the amendment was negatived without a div'sion,
and the clause agreed to, as were three declaratory clauses
proposed by Mr. C. GRANT.
Colonel L. HAY then proposed a clause giving a legis-
lative sanction to the branch of the Church of Scotland
at present established in British India. The Hon. Gen•
tieman said that his object was to have dis.enting chap-
lains appointed in each of the Presidencies, subject, how-
ever, to the control of the synod of Lothian and Twee-
dale, and to be paid as military chaplains.

Aftersome conversation from Mr. HUME, Mr. Wv
and Colonel HAY, the Committee divided.
The numbers were—
A.Yet; 63
Noes 35

Majority for the clause

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SMALL DEBTS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The Small Debts (Scotland) Bill was, on the motion of
3lr. KENNEDY, read a third time.
On the question that the Bill do pass,

Mr. WALLACE moved that those clauses of the Bill
for paying the Judges and other officers of the Sheriffs'
Courts by fees as well as by salaries he expunged.
Mr, KENNEDY defended those provisions of the Bill,
and denied that the Sheriffs and their clerks were overpaid.

Captain GORDON, though li, could not support the
amendment, wished the Bill to he deferred until the Com-
missioners for inquiring into thy Local Jurisdictions in
Scotland had made their report.
Mr. HUME did not think the additionll duties justified
additional emolument. If, however, any reduction took
place, the public surely ought to have the benefit of it.
An HoN. AIEMBEa considered that it would be unjust
to tax the sheritTs' clerks to obtain a result that was to
benefit the public.
Mr. KENNEDY said that the object of the Bill was to
remunerate the sheriff for any expense he might incur in
travelling. . . .

Mr. 'MACKENZIE said that any reduction in the emo-
luments of sheriffs' c'erks would affect their respectability.
He approved of the Bill, but objected to its details. In
particular it would press most hardly on the sheriffs of
Inverne,s and Ross shire.

`Mr. C. FERGUSSON would prefer seeing the duties
performed by the sheriffs themselves than by their clerks,
but still he thought the Bid would be an advantage.
Mr. MURRAY also approved of the Bill.

Sir J. HAY thought that under all the eireutmtances
the bill should he withdrawn, at all events until the corn-
noi,sioners had made their report.
. .

Mr. KENNEDY really did not see how the inquiries
of the commissioners could affect this Bill unless indeed it
should work badly. . . . . .

Mr. AGLIOgBY said that if additional duties were to
be imposed upon sheriffs and their clerks, upon the ground
that the labourer was worthy of his hire, they were ervi-
tied to !urther remuneration.

After a few words from Mr. KENNEDY, Mr. WAL-
LACE withdrew his amendment; and the motion that the
Bill do pass was then agreed to.
The Imprisonment for Debt Bill passed through a
Co:nniitree pro forma.—Report on Wednesday.
DRAMATIC PERFORMANCES BILL.
O❑ the motion for the further consideration of the
report on the Dramatic Performances Bill,
Mr. Alderman WOOD proposed a clause for inserti! n
in the Bill, exempting the city of London from its ope-
ration.
After some conversation, the clause was agreed to, on
the understanding that its provisions should be d
on a future stage.
The report was then agreed to, and the Bill ordere,l to
be read a third time on Monday.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at a quarter-past two until Monday.

BRITISH OFFICERS IN FOREIGN

SERVICE.

TO THE ED1T01? OF THE SUN.

Snt,—Upon my return home from an excursion, I this day
found your paper of Tuesday, the 16th (which I regularly take
in), in which is the follow*lg, on the gallant achievement of
our noble countryman and ht 3 valiant band of heroes off Cape
St. Vincent, in support '6f constitutional right and liberty :
" Among lens interesting matter discussed in the House of
Lords last 'night, the Marquis of Londonderry asked tarl
Grey,a question respecting Captain Napier's 'being still in the
English service, which his Lordship 'Professed his inability to
answer. We are enabled to that at the time Earl Grey
was speaking, Captain Napier was ' scratched off the tst.' We
do not know Whit authority, beyond conwoon rumour, the
Admiralty can have for assuming that Captain Napier has en-
tered The service of Don Pedro; lint as we take it for granted
that they have precisely the same kind of information, with
respect to Captain ElTiot's having entered the service of Min
Miguel, we tres't the same justice will be meted 'Olt to the
Conservati'ves as there has been to the Liberal, ,'adventurer."
It tins NOT been usual, when Great i3ritain has been at
peace with all the world, for the 'Government to object to its
officers entering into the pe.r._•ite of foreign belligerent powers ;
and, among many other instances, I beg to call you particsslat
attention to the circumstance of Captains Sir Sydney Smith
and Sir Frederick Thesiger, the former entaing the ser-
vice of Sweden, and the latter that sf Russia, upon the
strong recommendation of the Tale gallant Admiral Lord
Rodney, to whom he had acted as aide-de-camp and rep
peater of signals ,Yti the glorious 12th of April, and
from whose vutogy he was in London arpointed to a 74
gun-ship, end had his expenses paid him et Cronstadt, where,
upon arriving, the Russian fleet instegfer put to sea, in search
of the adverse Swedish one when, upon meeting, a dreadful
conflict ensued, and it ended by a great victory on the part of
the Russians, and the Swedish Admiral, in the Gustaftt, was
captured by Sir r. T., and which ship he was given the com-
mand of ; and would, most probably, have captured his Swedish
Majesty also, but for the able manceuvte Of his gallant country-
man opponent, Sir S. Smith, who, by embarking his Majesty
on board a galley, escaped into shallow water, and so ended the
engagement. It is a curious coincidence, that both cur gallant
countrymen received the Orders of Knighthood on the same
day—Sir S. Smith by the Sovereign of Sweden, for his able
retreat ; and Sir F. T., from the great Catherine of Russia, of
the Order of St. George, with a highly complimentary letter
with her autograph signature.

Upon hostilities being upon the point of breaking out be-
tween the Northern Powers and Great Britain, Lord Spencer
—then the very active First Lord of the Admiralty, sent for
Sir F. T., who had acquired furth'er fame, and had obtained
the Order of Merit conferred upon him in a gold sword, now
in his family's possession, and which negotiation was carried on
through the intervention of his old friend and companion in
arms, the late Admiral William Bentinck. Upon Sir F. T.'s
arrival in this country, he was introduced to Admiral Lord
Nelson, and was appointed to act as his Majesty's aide-de-camp
on the memorable attack at Copenhagen, and was the officer
who landed through the fire of the fleet and batteries, with the
flag of truce, which was not respected, and thereby magnani-
mously effected the cessation of hostilities, and preserved the
British Fleet, Sir Thomas Hardy, now so actively employed
at the Board of Admiralty, is well aware of all the facts, and
I hog to refer you for further particulars to the Universal Re-
gister Magazine for November, 1805, and the Naval Chronicle,
vol. 14, for December, 1805.—1 am, Sir,
Yours, respectfully,
AN ADMIRER OF BRITISH HEROISM.
July 18, 1835.

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