The Sun.
London, England, 1846-05-08 00:00:00

.P Nl3 I'aILTTCTIESTETZ. (881Z175-

LEY JUNCTION).
The examination was continued of witnesses to show the traffic
likely to be male by the accommodation offered by the line passing
over the coal-field, when Messrs. Jeffcock, Brown, and Rhodes gave
evidence similar to what was elicited yesterday.
Mr. Lee, resident engineer on the Shaffield and Manchester, stated
in his examination that the length of the Barnsley branch was
nearly eleven miles, and that it started from the Sheffield and
Manchester line, 29 miles from Manchester, through a junction with
the Midland Railway to Barnsley. There were two tunnels of 500 yards,
and 440 yards on this branch, and the gradients were rather steep, being
one in 95 for 8% miles, rising towards Pennystone, there being a
difference of 515 feet in height between the two ends of the line and
overcome in something more than 10 miles; but the natural line of
the country was such that a line to the west could not be laid out with
more favourable gradients. The estimate was 330,0001. for tbe whole
expenses of the completion of the line, which he considered would be
valuable as a through line between Manchester and Goole and Hull.
In giving his evidence on the Worsborough branch, Mr. Lee stated
that this was a branch from the Barnsley Junction, nearly 5 miles in
length, terminating at Worsborough-bridge. The gradients on this
branch would be heavy by going down lower than they did on the
main line, so that there would be a gradient of 1 in 60 for 3 miles, and 1
in 100 for the remainder, and with heavy trains they would require
an assistant engine. There was one tunnel on the line 990 yards
lout. The estimate for the branch, including land and all other ex-
penses would be 150,0001. In answer to a question about the ad-
ditional expense of working a linewith steep gradients, the witness
stated that on the Sheffield and Manchester line, where there was a
gradient of one in 100, the cost of locomotive power was 6d. per
running mile, which was one penny less than it was in Lancashire.
Mr. Locke, the engineer, gave evidence corroborative of the pre-
vious witness. He believed that a junction between the Sheffield
and Manchester and the North Midlands would be one of the most
important lines in existence of the same length, and that no other
locomotive line would effect this but the line to Barnsley— a town
which had a great deal of traffic, and mostly to the westward, which
had been altogether neglected by the existing lines of railway.
This finished the evidence for the present scheme.
The Committee arranged on taking the Midlands branch to ElSicar
to-morrow, and then adjourned.

GROUP XL.
LEEDS AND TOILE 'JUL! LW AT.
The C{,mmittee resumed this day. Mr- Stafford O'Brien (chair-
man), Lord Norreys, Mr. Bright, Mr. Sheridan, and Mr. Dugdale
took their seats at twelve o'clock.
Mr Cope's crass-examination by Mr. lIILDYARD was continued
He stated that the North Midland Company were not aware until
the third weak of the o iservations he was making, when they dis-
missed some of his men. If a train professed to start at a certain hour,
and arrived at its terminus a quarter of an hour later, Mr.
Cope set this down as a quarter of an hour lost. There was no frost
during these three weeps of observation, as far as his memory served
hint.
Mr. Unzerang endeavoured to invalidate this witness's statement
w'th regard to loss of time on the North Midland, by affirming that
the returns given in by the wiimss did not tally with ltradshaw's
tables of the same date. The Ist of April w.a taken as an example,
on which day Mr. Cope allowed 9 hours 19 minutes for
seven trains from York to Leeds. The Learned Counsel did
not, however, controvert this fact, but maintained that the time
advertised by the Company for starting ineant only the time when
the doors were closed. Witness, however, urged that even that was
no excuse for the Company's not delivering their freight at the time
they a,ivertised. Witness farther begged to correct a statement he
made yesterday. He had stated that the traffic on the Wetherby
line was 50 per cent. greater than on the Tadcaster line. lle now
begged to say that it was 100 per cent. greater.
Iin,DYARD closely questioned the witness as to the amount of
traffic between York and Wetherby, and as to the means of convey-
ance, whether by public carriers, or by private waggons, but witness
having obtained his information through agents, would not
give any evidene on the point. The traffic between Wetherby
and York he estimated at about 3bol. ; between Wetherby and
Leeds at about 1,2501 ; 2,5501. as the whole
revererevne_ from traffic
of goods between York and Leeds ; 5,5251. as sult derivable
from cattle. 78,604 persons pass between Wetherby, York, and
Thorp- Arch. ut a question or two that were
Mr. Sergeant Wir..siss having p
answered to his satisfaction,
Mr. Cope stated, in reply to Mr. HARDT, that 85,4641. might very
fairly be assigned as the total amount of Verde between Leeds and
Vork by way of Wetherby.
Mr, Bartsgs called Mr. James, superintendent of police in the
Borough of Leeds,Who gave evidence corroborative of the alleged
delays en the York and North Midland. Fie had latterly sent wit-
nesses by coach at assize time to snsure their attendance.
Toe Leeds
N M Ir. lA:am:to —Witness admitted that he was a shareholder in
th and York Railway. lie had known the Court to be delayed
for half-an-hour.

To Mr. Itoatas —lNTuinearftlas.esid that an additional train would
evic. and taeds 'Railway COM-
ea, but his testimony was
have obviated these irre
solely
siiiioieLityl
Acch.allnarelebteyr.mr. Bub,
Mr. Bateman, civil engineer to : the 'T
PoafilaYP'fw?Prso
Altness admitted that by the
To V
Leeds and York Bill they codd 11,,t unite with the LeedsDewer3 of
the
Brad-
ford, with the N 7 , ~ orth allilland, with th, Leeds '
and
nor,Brad-
Indeed, and Church Fenton,
with any of the lines inwhich
air.
rested, although he had originally Hudson WAS inte-
junctions. entertained the idea of such
Mr. , .II ILDTARD now Submitted to the
admis-
sion ought to prove fatal to the' Biti before them, inasmuch as it
e Committee that this
proved that the line was not laid out in the best way for the public
benefit.
: Mr. &antes urged, on the contrary, that his Le
bound to go on with his cross-examination of the witnen. arned Friend was
Mr. Littorano did not object to this. but distinctly intimated that
he by no means walved.the objection he had taken
be should, on the termination of his cross-examitiatf and added, that
o
again request
the sense of the Committee blithe point he had raised.
31r. ALEXANDER urged on the Committee the saving of time
raise
sght be effected if they would give their decision on the point that
might I
by Ids Learned Friend Mr. Tlihiyard, as, otherwise, he should enter
upon a lengthened cross-examination of the witness on behalf of '3lr,
Fountain Wilson, as would also- his Learned Friends; Mr.-Sergeant
Wilkins and Mr. Knowles, en behalf of the Companies for whom
they were engaged.
r. BAtNEs .sul)mitted that the line was the best of the three before
theM Coinrnittee, and wished to call Mr. Cabin to prove this fact.
Mr. HILDItARD, to save the time of the Committee, was ready'to
admit that this was the best line of the .three, but contended that,
even after this admission, the point must still be decided against Mr.
Baines, by the admission of Mr. 13atenaan, that . the line was not so
' good as it might have been. ' •,
Mr. Ilildyard continued to address the Committee for some time
II the subject, and was followed by
31r. KNOWLES, who, as the representative of large landed•proprie-
tors, had important interests to protect. The Learned Gentleman
maintained that the interests of private individuals were noting to be
sacrifteed to a scheme which was.imperfect through a of
jealousy towards Mr. Hudson.
Mr. ALEK ANDER next addressed the Committee, on behalf of Mr.
in by such a. ruse. .
Dir. listisigi was snre tilt' Committer
• - '
• -would not be Influenced by
out by his Learned Friend (Mr. Al6tarider), and argued that if he
showed his line was an integral line, and' htVolved such a degree of
public accommodation as to outweigh the objections lif his.competi-
tors or of the landowners, the Committee were bound to all Ow-him
to Proceed with his 11111.
Mr. ilnan
the Committee
a railway were bon it
or whether they Imo cOnternitkr thitt the;TAint fit.issue for tho• decision.of
was whether parties applying for powers to construct
n to show that their line was merely a good one
Fountain Wil on, in a similar strain to that of the Learned Counsel
who had preceded him. '.
Mr. Sergean t WitatiNs opposed the objection raised by Mr. Hil yard.
and added that it' the atitassion of,Mr,lltidyard was accepted, all
three of the liaeS mast be thrown overboard, but hi was Preparod to
prove, in drect contradiction of Mr."Plifyarrys' adniimion, pv argv.
meat°, that tho Leeds and Yii.rl,-.. ling,was tlte best of the-three. .11e
was.preparcd to prove that it 3vas thti.kierat of the thrce,, and lie had
too many ilealiiigi with the enalssarl'es'of 'the Great King to be taken
s...{..s.aminatiori-witich bad been throwa
the thr,ati of prololLNd ores
were not compelled to prove that it was the best
that could be constructed. The Learned Gentleman
further ex-
plained by denying that he h -
the Leeds and York line ad, de facto, admitted the superiority of
• over the North Dlidiand.