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tai'ff wituld ensa»ce tl ktroiluee Of the fiSreigtierlitt the cost of
the it itish ratt-an, he must oppo.,e it.
Lord SIII,UItION con,okred that the Government had
taken the preporty.lax, which should have been a reserve in
time of vr;,r, and adopted it to the purpose of making uttnect
sary reducti •ns in the amount of the impost duties. He thought
the ioea of raising the revenue by the reduction of duties was
ehon.rical Every authority went to • warn their Lordships
tuainst tor reckless sy•tern of finance adopted by the Govern•
ment. He thought. the new di-cover v, caled free trade, would,
if carried out, ihj are materially the interest of all classes of
the enap,re.
The original motion for going into Committee Was then put
and:,grepd to without a divi4on.

The LORD C lANCELLOR then put the questinn, that
the Hou.e do resolve itself into a Committee, which was
agreed to without a division.

On the clause:: R 5 to the reduction of the duty on the impor-
tation of foreign timh9r being read,
Lord S FA' LEY 'aid he thought no good would follow
from it to the country, and that great injury would bc
on the Pattie interested in the timber trade. He should,
therefore, move th 4. the clause he orni:ted.

Earl DALHOUSIE entered into a lengthy statement of
figures, for the purpose of showing that the Noble Lord's ob-
jections were groundless. Being satisfied that this measure
was necessary to the interests of the country, that 15s. was
a fair duty, and that it would be beneficial in a financial view,
he felt it was his duty to give hit hearty support to it.
Earl STANHOPE said, instead of the reduction of the
dunes on timber, there had been a decrease in the revenue
since the last reduction of 60 ►,OOOl. It Kas certainly a most
inc.,nvenient practice for the Noble Earl to quote from manu-
script documents in support of his arguments, as it did not give
N0.,1e Lords an oviortunity of replying to hi; arguments.
Earl KINN A I 1113 said, those reports were on the table of the
House.

Earl DALHOUSIE said, he had gutted from no documents
that were iv, access ble to every one of their Lordships:—
( Hear.) He certainly had quo•ed from manumcripts, but they
had been culled for convenience sake trom the returns which
had been presented to their Lordships some time ago.
GALLOWAY said that the reduction of duty upon
Baltic timber had been most beneficial to his own tenants an I
the coun, ry at large, and he should therefore support the
treasure for a further reduction, believing that it would prove
to be beneficial to the people of this country, and those engaged
in the timber trade.—( Hear, hear.)
The House then divided, when there appeared—
Not content
Content
Alaj wity against the amendment —l2
Clause 3, after a few remarks from the Duke of RICHMOND
and the Earl of DALHOUSIE, was agreed to.
U,,dn clause 4 bey,' prop,ss:d,
The Earl of STAN HOPE objected to the provisions of the
clau r.

After a few words from the Earl of DALHOUSIE, the
clause was allowed to stand part of the Bill.
Upon elau-e 5 being proiin--ed,
The Duke of RICHMOND trusted that the clause would
not be considered at that hour of the night, as i' affetec. the silk
weave's. especially after the treatment they r.-ccived that even-
ing at the hands of their Lord6hips, who called in the proxies.
'rue Earl DALHO "SIE said he was not for taking ad-
vantage of the Noble Duke.
Lord STANI..r::Y hoped that some arrangement would be
come to with respect to this mea.ure.—(Flear, hear. )
The Corn Ir4portat ion Bill was down for a third
reading on Tuesday; but as the question had been so much de-
ba•ed, and so many divisions having taken place, he (Lori:
Stanley), ant! the Nob:e Lords with whom he agreed on thi,
questa n, did not intend to divi‘le on the third reading. 'rue}
would simily content themselves with signing a protest againv
he ill, an stating the reasons why they opposed it.—
('• Hear, hear," front the Duke of Yrliington. ) It might be
thou.tht convenient, under such circumstances, to have the
remaining clauses and schedule of the Cusmm Duties Rill pro-
ceeded with on Tuesday, as there would be some discussion
on them

The Duke of WELLISGTON—I h..ve no objection whit-
er, r to the in% po,al of the NoWe Lord.
T netr Lordships tten a j nrned.

I I )(I S'E June 19.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four oVoAt.
COVEN i RY, NUNEATON, BIRMINGHAM, AND

LEICESTER RAILWAY.
Mr. SPOONER movrd, that the Committee on the
Coventry, Nuneaton, Birmingham, and Leiceste.r Railway
b . revived, that it be an instruction to the Committee,
to entertain and hear the parties on the petition of Wiliiam
Atkinson Gardner, anti the petition of Charles Holt Brace-
bridge, with reference to the non-compliance with the resolu-
t.ons of the House tit the 30th day of April last. If the reso•
lotions wh.ch were adopted on the 30th of April by that House
were to he maintainer, there it was imperatively necessary
that the Comanttee ou the Bill should be revived, in order
that the ca-e of the petitioners might be heard.
Mr. BANNERMAN thought that before the House decided
on the proposed motion, they should inquire who the pe-
titioners were. The party who petitioned against the Bill sva
deputy-chairman of the line against which the Committee had
decided. It was also extremely doubtful whether the peti-
tioners had any locus standi before the Committee, as the peti-
tion was not ttre,euted until the day after the Committee hail
given their decision.
Lord G. SOMERSET thought the explanation of the
Hon. Member ( ?.Jr. Bannerman) was quite satisfactory, arid
he should thsirefiire oppose the motion.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE understood that the resolutions of
the 3')th of April directed that the Committees on Railway
Bills were to entertain every petition presented, but it would
appear Batt, in the preterit case the Camtnittee had not done
their duty. If the resolution., were not attended to, it woul-
he be ter at once to put them behind the are. He should cer-

vainly support the motion.
Mr. ESTCOURT considered that the present case was one
of contempt of the inasmuch a; some of the parties had
foi.ted a fall ,eious return on the Committee. He would sup-

port the revival ot the Committee, nut for the purpose of con•
entering the merits ot the Bill, but whether the decision of the
Committee had been come to in consequence of this fallacious
report..
Mr. GREENE supported the motion. He thought the
petition should have been entertained.
Mr. N'ILLIERS did not think that the revival of the case
before the Committee was the proper mode of dealing with a
fraud practised on the Committee.
Mr. SOONER had consulted the highest authority in the
House as to the course he should pursue in the matter, and had
acted ace. -ding to the advice givtn him.
Mr. NEWDEGATE hoped the House would not revive
the Committee upon shell vague-allegations as thu3e contained
in the petition. _ _

Mr. A. WI LLIANIS said the motion was only made for the
purpose of incurring additional expense and delay.
Mr. NI UN t Z supported the motion, because he thought the
Committee had not strictly followed the rules of the House.
I he House then divi2.ed when there appeared—

For the motion .
Agains, it
Nlakirity hglnst the reeoinmittal Of the 13,11 —6B
CLA ,60W AND BELFAST UNION RAILWAY.
The ',port on this Bill was brought up, and the Bill ordered
to be engrossed.
GRAVESEND AND ROCHESTER RAILWAY AND

CANAL (SALE AND PURCHASE).
The 'non on this Bill was brought up, land the Billordeted
to be etlgniAsed.

GREAT GRIMSBY AND SHEFFIELD JUNCTION
ortlsß' aAmittLo‘tVimAeYntsXTEN LION n
risreaui").
The I. and agrePd to
GREAT GRIMSBY AND SHEFFIELD JUNCTION
RAILW %Y AND GRIMSBY DOCKS CONSOLI.
DA T', IN.
This Bill wa, read a third time. and passed.
HUDDERSFIELD AND SHEFFIELD JUNCTION
RAILWAY (DARFIELD BRANCH).
One the order of the da) f
being read for the further proceed-
ing on te third fettling o this Bill.
S FEW AR WORTLEY said that the Bill.
if carried into effect, would cause the ra,st serious im
pediments to the public, and he therefore moved tha:
the Bill be read a third time that slay six months.
M•ssengers came down from the Lords bringing reverts,
Bi.ls, which were wdered to lie on the tab'e.
Viscount E It it INGTON considered that no line at all wool
be prefer We to the one under consideration. and entertaining.
as he did, the sit-come t opinion on the :object, he would volt
against the third reading of the Bill.
1110NCK TON :,;ILNES hoped that the House would
not sw rye from its usual caAtom, b..t would affirm the decision
of the Commute.

Mr. C. WOOD said he should vote for the rejection of the thit d
reacting. In anov.e. session the tribunal to which the Bill will be
submitted would have a much better opportunity of arriving a
a just ronclucion.
Mr. B. DENISON said he hoped tlytt the House would
reject the third reading of the Hill. The two Bills which
had been tia‘sed ought to have been rejected by the Cimmitte,
and tho,,e which had been rejected ought to have been passed.
Mr. ST AN sFIELD supported the third reading.
Stranger. were ordered to withdraw, and the House di-
vided. when there appeared,
For the +bird rea,ting
Against it... . .... •
511 j ,city • 14
SCOTTISH CENTRAL AND CALEDONIAN JUNC.

TION RAILWAY.
This Rill was read a seerind time.
BELFAST AND CCVUNTY DOWN RAILWAY.

Th;s Bib was read a third time, and pas,erl
BUCKINGHAMSHIRE RAILWAY (OXFORD AND

BLETCHLEY JUNCTION).
On the question that the Lords' amendments on this Bill be
considered.

Mr T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition containing
strong allegatim• against the Bill, and hoped there would be
no objec(ion to have it priLnted and taken into consideration
with the amendments.

The Marquis of CHANDOS objected to any postponement.
He was not aware until filus moment that any opposition would
be entered into against the line, but he would pray that the
House would _not take notice of individual objections to a
great public line.
Sir GEORGE GREY also objected to the motion.
Mr. "I'. DUNCOMBE said all he wanted was to have the
petition printed. so that it might b' in the hands of every
Member of the House, who would not suffer a great injury
to be infl.cleil on a private person.
Mr. W. COLLETT wdd, the petitioner had no locus
standi.
The amendments on the reFort were then considered and
pmssed.
_ _ LEICESTER AND BEDFORD RAILWAY.

andMfredWfo.rdElLtaLiilwSaymoß;ll:ll:
of this
the third
Bid on amount of errors which he perceived in it
reading of the Leicester
Air. V. SMITH objected to the third reading
It was the recommendation of the Board of Trade, and a
standing order of the House, that the maximum rate of tolls
should be mentioned in the Bill, but of these he found no men-
tiem whatever.
Sir GEORGE CLERK said that he had had his atten-
tion eslled to thi4 case, and it, was said that there was no
maximum rate of charges in the Leicte.ger and Bedford Bill,
but upon looking over th- Bill it was f.sund to contain such a
clause.
The 81.1 was *hen read a third time.
\lr W A KLEY presented several petitions in favour of the
NEW ZEALAND.
Glasg Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway.

Mr. C. BULLER said it might be in the recollection of the
Right Hon. Ba•onet that. abut a month ago he had called
ttention to th, colony of New Zealand, and •he Right Hoc.
Gentleman v.as then pleased to :tate that he would give notice
of the i trillion. of her Nlajes!y's Government respec,ing the
tau sue there. He wished, therefore, to
cuonuor:e
whatthe j 7:etil't i
nte.i,i )n; of the Government ),...ero with
lately in that..! colony ;
reToct to that colony?
bad been for some time
See-
retary for the Colonies. There had been some difficulties
palirunßderPthEeEcLonssaildiertahtaiotnthoefstteGetovernment and the
sesion connected withbNutewheZw:aslanndow,hhaatp
authority of the Pritish Crowa was being re-established there.
Happy
wouldsay t hat thee
V.a.he.ad no difficulty in stating that it was the intention of her
''' i ,3,14 G9vernment to introduce a legi:+lative measure this
he the
tonature' •
to say. of that measure he was not then prepared

DEANERY OF WINDSOR. ln reply to Mr. RICH, with respect to the oP,
r-nnlutal4nt of
a dean fee Window.

-74 TY'ES-D A Y EVENT-NGS a TUNE 23,
`Sir nOllElll' PEEL said that a clean timid not-hold more"
th- ki one living. bifs the, e-iii 4" nn disqualifiez. ion whatever from
his holding a headsh'p of an since; he hed, therefore, recom-
mended the present Dean of Wavisor so her Majesty ; hut he
cl,d nut make atiy stipulation whatever with him as TO his re-
signation of his termer Miler, which. if he were not entited to
hold, there was a law to which the Mm. Member could apply
fur a remedy.

SUGAR DUTIES.
In reply to an HON. Alasieex ssho inquired when the Go-
vernment proposed to bring on the snots duties.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Mid he was
about to rise to address-the House on the subject, in order to
state some circumstances in connexion with these duties, when
the Hon Gentleman rose. On Thursday last, after a full con-
sideration of the subject, he stated to the House that it was his
intention, in order that deliberate consideration might be given
to the sob eet, to move that the sugar duties should be renewed
for one month only. He stated this to the House. on Thurs-
day last, in order that if any Honourable Member had
any propositien -to make on the subject he
might have an opportunity of doing so. In order . that
the House might be fully informed on the rthject, he had to
state that at seven o'clock last evening- he received a notice
from the Noble Lord, the Member for Lynn ( Lord George
Bereinek) that it was his intention to move, on the House re-
solving itself into a Committee on those duties, that s' the
House is of opinion that the renewal of the sugar duties for one
month is calculated irMiriously to affect the commercial insp_
rests of the country, and that it was the duty of Ler Majesty's
Mini-ters to have brought forward their measures on-the sub-
ject earlier in the session." He thought en a question of that
importance, so much relating to commerce, and affecting: the
policy of Government, it would have been advisable to have
given sufficient noice that it was intended to bring for-
ward a question of that kind. At the same time,
he did not mean to interpose between the discussion of such a
question, always assuming, however, that the sugar duties
were levied. lie had spoken to the Noble Lord, and advised
the bringing of it on after the discua'ion on the Coercion Bill
to-night.—( Hear, hear, and laughter.) He argued that the
introduction of this resolution would have the effect of inter.
fering with the first step on the Sugar Duties Bill, but the
discusion nn that Bill, if the first step were interrupted, could
not be postponed till next day; and if it were postponed till
the fdlowing Friday, there would occur an interval when no
sugar duties would be levied, which would be injurious in com-
mercial affairs. He hoped the Noble Lord would not persist in
his motion. If the Noble Lord wished the sugar duties should
continue till the sth of August, or longer, there was nothine,
inconsistent with that in the Government motion ; for the effect
of it was merely to continue the present duties till-that time.
At all events, the Noble Lord must see that it was a question
(in which both the Government and the Howe ought to have
had sufficient notice.

Lord G. BEN T[NCK could assure the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman that not one individual of the party vritlywhich he was
connected would allow the proposed alteration in the sugar
duty to take place on the 6th of July next. If the Right Hon.
Gentleman would propose a Bill for the usual period of one
year, the Hon. Gentlemen around him would support the
Bill. They blamed her Alaktsty's Ministers for putting the
revenue in peril by delaying to so late a period of the session so
important A measure as the sugar Bill. If it were carried,
40,009 tons of sugar would come in without paying any du'y
at all. For those reasons they would not be doing their duty
to sit in silence without passing their censure on her Ma-
jesty's Ministers for their neglect. They were asked now to
!bass a sugar duties' Bill for a month. Why, it was more than
orottable that next week the present Right Hon. Minister
would no longer be at the head of the Government. The ob•

ject of the friends around him w s to let the public know what
rivy intended to do. He thought that the great interests of the
ouhlie would be best attended to if the present Sugar Duties
rill was renewed for a year, and riot for a month. The party
by whom he was surrounded were not disp ised to offer any
.ptious opposiiioa to the measure, but they wished to legislate
'or the best interests of the country.
Mr. HUAIE saw no reason why the present all should be
-eistponed for a twelvemonth. He did hope that whatever
Government might be in power, they would be informed pod-
r,vely how the diff rential duties were to be arranged. Every
means ought to be a towed to promote the outlay of capital in
anufacturing sugar, as there certain,y was a deficiency for
supplying the lower clas-es.
Mr. MILNER GIBSON preferred the proposed new duty
to the present duties. He had received a letter from a large
firm who had purchased a thousand t..ns of sugar. This sugar
would have to remain in bond for a month, and he thought
that it would be unfair to these parties if free labour sugar for
the ensuing month was not to be admitted at the duty of
19s. 10d. The Noble Lord had censured the Government for
aelayibg so long to bring on the Sugar Duties Bill, but he
would ask, why did he not adopt the advice of the Hon. Mem-
ber for Findoury, and move an address to her Majesty, that
he House had no confidence in the present \linistry.—( Hear,
hear ) He felt sa' isfied that the Noble Lord would not main-
tain his character of being the poor man's friend, if he stood
up so obstinately for the maintenance of a high duty on sugar.
He ready did not understand the principles on which the Noble
Lord and his friends were acting. He called upon the Noble
Lord not to interrupt the progress of public business by those
paltry amendments. Let him come forward and boldly move
an address to her Majesty of want of confidence in the
Ministry.—(Cheers ).
Mr. BANK ES did not thank the Hon. Member for his pro-
position.—( A laugh). He would tell him, however, that they
the protectionists) still preserved the good opinion of the
British farmer. He concurred entirely in the statements of his
Noble Friend as to the course which they intended to pursue
on the present occasion. The Corn Bill was no excuse for
'hem to be told, when the revenue of the country was neg-
!ected, that it had prevented the attention to public business.
Under the peculiar circumstances which were connected with
he Bill, when one Government were going out, and another
Government ware coming in, a positive negative ought to be
oat to the further progress of the fill, which was to come into
operation only fora month.
Mr. BERNAL wished to remind the House that they were
_ . _ .

,flaying with great interests—( Hear)—and in interfering they
should be careful not to inflict a material injury to promote a
emporary benefit. He saw a great many practical and tech-
lical difficulties to proceeding with the Bill, as it must come
:nto operation on the 6th of July.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed that
'le had stated before that the motion of the Nob!e. Lord might
just as well, anti as effectively, be made at slater period as at
,m-sent. He did not wish to proceed with his motion in oppu-
,ition to the wishes of the 'louse, or to infringe in the smallest

degree on the orders of the day.
Lord JOHN RLIS:i-ELL thought whatever case the Noble
Lord might make out, he did not think that there were
any parties in the House who would object to the continuance
,ifthe sugar duties for a trinnth if they wet e cew protreetted
Under the pre'ent circumstances he thought the consideration
the me•sore should be proceeded with forthwith.
Mr. BARCLAY hoped that the whole question might be
fairly diseased by her Nlaiesty'. Government.
Mr. JAMES observed that the greatest injury which the
We t Indian interest suffered from was the uncertainty in
which their afflirs were always enveloped. Such a state of
things was the greate.t possib!e bane to the circulation of capi-
i al. The colonies ought not to be made the hone of conten-
ion between rival politicians for the upsetting of a Govern-
;nent, to the great detrimect of numerous private individuals
and families.
Sir ROBERT INGLIS rose to ask the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether, after the

,neouragement he had received, he should go on with his
motion ?

'Mt; CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, if there
was to be no opposition, and it the House were prepared by
~ommon consent to go on with the motion, he should be very
ailing to move it

Lord GEORGE BENTINCK said it wis not his inten-
ion to interpose any mot ion of the kin•i of which he had given
notice. but he should take some futu:e opportunity of pressing
of a similar nature.
Tne House then resolved itself into a Committee of Ways
and Means.

The res)lutions were moved and agreed to pro forma, and
he r& port was ()Morel to he hroueit un to-morrow.
PROTECTION OF LIFE (IRELAND) BILL.
ADJOURNED DEBATE.

The House having resumed, the order of the day for the
second reading of the Protection of Life (Ireland) Bill was
proceeded with.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD said that the people of Ireland
wonted to sea fair play. They
opposed any Bill which should
'lave for its object the harsh treatment of any portion of their
eountrymen. He was not one of those who would oppose
measures fur the repression of crime in Ireland, but he thought
that the present measure was not calculated to effect its object.
lie was opposed to the tyrannical provisions in the Bill for
compelling persons to be in their houses at a certain hour, as
it would be almost impossible for the people in the proclaimed
districts to comply with the regulations. It would always ex-
nose innocent individuals to unjust accu=sations and annoyance,
(rum the powers which were placed in the hands of the magi-
,trate, and the facilities that would be afforded to the spy sys-
em. Looking at the varied political and religious opinions of
the magistracy of Ireland, was it safe or just to put an irre-
pontible power in their hands? Would they place the power
of transporting men, on an information, in the hands of
English gentlemen ? No. Why, then, should they pro-
pose to invest Irish magistrates with such a power ?
Again, this Bill would have no operation or effect upon many
parties who really were a pest to Ireland, while it would inflict
great injury upon large masses of peaceful industrious people.—
Hear, hear.) He was sure had there been no precedent for it
Government never would have proposed such a measure as the
Coercion Bill, but the House must bear in mind what the prin-
ciples of these precedents were.--( Hear, hear.) The Bill of
1831 certainly sanctioned domiciliary visits, but it was not so
severe as the present Bill. Since that Bill was passed by a
Liberal administration, the example in some way mitigated
the conduct of the present Government in bringing forward
this Bill. He must remind them, however, that it had been
repeatedly protested against as a measure, pernicious in its
.effects and unconstituttonal in its principles.—( Hear, hear. )
It was a pleasing thing to live to see the change of opinion
which had taken place in that House with regard to Ireland.
It argued well for the growing sympathy that was rapidly
rising up in this country towards the sister kingdom, and he
now entertained hopes of shortly seeing the day when
the social, the moral, the intellectual and physical
•onlition of the people of his unfortunate native country
would undergo an extensive change for the better.—( Hear.)
In his opinion, the great evil under which she had laboured
was the non-responsibility of her large landed proprietors for
-he condition of their tenantry, and he for one was an advocate
or extendiag. the well organised poor-law of England and
'rotland to Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) But why, let him ask,
-hould there be a poor-law for Scotland and none for Ireland?
He saw no reason for this, nor did he believe any existed. It
would prove as effective, nay, he would go so far as to say more
effective in Ireland than Scotland ; and he entreated the
Government to follow up the admirable measures they had just
passed, for giving work and employment to the industrious
classes of Ireland, with a Bill for applying the poor-law to that
police must accompany
country. While he said this much he was bound
slyrsetleamnd,ofbut he could not consent
taint
yadremedial
that
mane
astnei effectivefor
to give the police force in Ireland so much power and authority
as this Bill would place in their hands.—( Hear, hear.) For
his own part. if he were asked what measures he would suggest
for the relief of Ireland, he would g ► back to the good old
institutihot„nsdcicfited intoAilfred,andsoprinopany oseditvhiastteaels,
idsiestituarbbleedadnidstreiecnts.
should
ventettit for the establishment of a police station; at each
station there should be an e
waiee, selected f.orn the people thetn,elves, efficient ant well organised d bad
who should be
of
empowered to act with rigour, but not with extreme harshness.
If a plan like this were adopted the people vi
gradually bo
removed from the state of bsrbaris
intoou w
which they
had been reduced by a long series of misrule to -a
state of comparative happiness and civilisation. Besides
the police, he would esta fish ag-icultural and o her
schools in each parish, which had, he believed, been recom-
mended by the Poor-law Corninissioners. It wis true there
existed a school in every _
parish now which was under the
control of the Board of Education; but in his opinion a
school for each parish washot a ifficient. There ought to be
many--( Hear, hear.) He would call
the present
British Members
of the House t't act with regard to
great p:inciple which should be the f present Bill on the
•Christian morality,
4, To d.) to others as we would wish to be done by." He put
ass such it to the English Members, would the• a Bili for
Engle d? They could have had, if liy
desired, a plea to
justify it, when the riots were going on, but no such thing had
h. en ever proposed ; s therefore, he would call on them to do
to Ireland as they would co to England, and not to pass the
Bill. What. Ireland required were beneficial and not coercive
measure,. It was not his wish to Qui a part in this discussion,
or (Ili lto stand there M a supporter of any party bat from a