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London, England, 1846-08-25 00:00:00

WRECK AND SALVAGE BILL.

The Earl of CLARENDON moved the third reading
of this Bill.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH objected to that
clause which made it necessary for the boats to be of a
certain length and breadth, and considered that it would
cause a great deal of inconvenience, unless a more ex
tensive margin were allowed.
The Earl of CLARENDON said that the same ob-
jection had occurred to him, but the table had been
carefully revised by the Admiralty, and they had ap-
proved of it as being sufficient for safety.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH hoped the Noble
Earl (Clarendon) would postpone the Bill to•mozrow,
that this point might be considered in the interum.
The Bill was postponed accordingly.
RATEABLE PROPERTY (IRELAND).

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in moving the order
of the day tor going into Committee on the Rateable
Property (Ireland) Bill, said that he wished to call the
attention of the House to it as a Bill having reference
to the present unfortuuate prospects in Ireland. The
value of the property was to be estimate& by
the grand jury, in order to prevent two or more
different systems of valuation from prevailing in Ireland.
Two clauses, 36 and 37, had been omitted, and those
he proposed should still continue so. He should also
move that clauses 75 and 76 be omitted.
The clauses were accordingly omitted.
CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND) BILL.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE then moved the
second reading of this Bill. Their Lordships were
aware that the expense of the force for several years past
bad been very severely felt.
Lord MON (EAGLE said he entertained several ob-
jections to the principles and provisions of this Bill,
but he had no wish to throw any impediments in the
way of its being read a second time, as it was
so thoroughly interlaced with the other Irish measures
that lay on the table of the House. He thought it
would be but fair to postpone all these Bills till to-
morrow, without wishing in the least to throw an im-
pediment before the progress of any the of them.
The Earl of WICKLOW said he admitted with the
Noble Lord the importance of the Bills brought in, and
the number of them ; but he had never seen a session
when it was better, especially with Irish Bills. He did not
see any great reason, however, why a few days should not
be allowed. But in respect to the present Bill he did not
feel the force of the Noble Lord's remark, as on the
second readarg the principle merely was involved, and
details would come after to be considered when they
went into Committee.
Lord MONTEAG LE said that the present was a great
national crisis for Ireland, and their Lordships would be
guilty of a gross misapplication of public money if they
gave their sanction to the present Bill. It was a mis-
take to suppose that that House had had nothing to do
with the constabulary of Ireland. That constabulary
was a civil as well as a military force, and while they
were subservient to the local authorities, while they
were employed to fulfil their Lordship? warrants, while
they were partly supported by votes of that House,
they had aright to see that this 160,0001. (a sum greater
than any voted for the relief of the distress in Ireland)
was properly expended. Who would thank their Lord-
ships for this grant? Not the people of Ireland, but the
landlords. Would it not be better to give it to the
Board of Public Works in Ireland, to be expended in
providing labour for the working classes? One word
more before he sat down. He prayed their Lordships
to consider the principle which was involved in this Bill.
It affirmed the principle that the repeal of the corn-
jaws entitled the landed interest to be relieved from some
of the local burdens to which land was subjected. Well,
then, if they applied this principle to Ireland, how could
they, with any shade of justice, refuse it to the landed
interest of England?—(Hear, hear.) He warned their
Lordships against the establishment of any precedent,
such as that which the passing of this Bill would afford.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that when the pro-
position contained in this Bill was originally made by
the late Government the circumstances of the country
were entirely different from its present state. He agreed
with the Noble Lord that the present was not the best
mode of affording relief to the people of Ireland. When
first proposed he had supported the measure, but he
thought, taking into consideration the altered circum-
stances of the country, that the better course would be
to defer the further progress of the measure.
The Dulte of GRAFTON objected to the large
powers given by this Bill to the Lord-Lieutenant.
Lord MONTEAGLE hoped their Lordships would
postpone the Bill.
The Earl of WICKLOW said that by the provisions
of this Bill the landlords of Ireland would be better
enabi:d to bear the immense burdens which they would
certainty have to heir in the ensuing year. He was
quite astonished at the opposition of his Noble Friend
(Lord Monteagle.)
Lord MONTE ..I.G LE rose to explain.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that the Bill
was founded upon one of the recommendations of Lord
Xlevon'e Commission. The late Government had pledged
themselves to this measure, and it was the duty of their
Lordships, and especially the Noble Lords who were
members of the late Administration, to curry out the
Provisions of the Bill before their Lordships. Her Ma-
jesty's novernment thought it their duty, in consequence
of the pledge of the late Ministry, to proceed with this
Bill. They considered themselves bound to do so.
The Bill was then read a second time.
ESIPLOYINIENT OF TILL. POOR (IRELAND)
B
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE rose to move the
second reading of this Bill. He proposed to postpone
any remarks, which he might have to make upon the
nature of the Bill, until to-morrow,
The Bill was then read a second time.
LEASES (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill was read a second time.