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tax at so much per mile for a given number of yeas. In his
opinion, twenty years would be sufficient to pay off the advance.
Some such plan as this would easily meet the case. It had
been estimated that about a million of money would be required
to change the broad into the narrow gauge and taking that as
the basis of the calculation, he thought that seven millions
would be more than enough for the conversion of the narrow
into the broad guage. That would at least be the outside. With
these observations he would sit down by asking the question of
which he had given notice, which was, when the Noble Lord
(the Earl of Dalhousie) expected the evidence on which the
Gauge Comet ission had founAed this report would be laid on
the table, and also whether the Noble Lord was able to declare
what the Government intended to do in relation to that report?
The Earl of DALHOUSIE said he would not follow the
Noble Lord in the general observations he had made respecting
the merits of the gauges, but reserve what be had to say till a
future period. The appointment of the Gauge Commission did
not arise in the other House out of the merits of the gauges,
but out of the diversity of guage, and the inconveniences that
' arose from that diversity. An address was presented to the
Crown. and a Commission was appointed to inquire into the
gauges laid down in this country—into their diversity, and to
report what means they thought it advisable to adopt in conse-
quence of this diversity, and if possible how an uniformity of
gauge might be obtained on all the lines in the kingdom. The
Commissioners had made the report, and it had been laid on
their Lordships' table. The Commissioners recommeded in the
first place, that the four-feet eight-inch-and-a-half or narrow
guage, be the universal guage of Great Britain, and that all
railroads now in the course of construction should be compelled
to form their lines according to this guage ; and they further re-
commended that an endeavour shouldbe made to discover means
by which an equitable arrangement might be effected with the
proprietors of the lines laid down upon the principle of broad
gauge for their alteration to uniformity with the narrow gauge.
The question, he could assure their Lordships, was one of the
greatest importance— (Hear, hear)—and must he carefully and
deliberately discussed.—( Cheers.) The alteration of the
guage would either be productive of good or evil to the public,
besides affecting the enormous amoun' of capital which had
been expended in the construction of broad gauge lines, the
construction of which had been sanctioned by Parliament.
They were, however, aware that no efect could be given to
the recommendations of the Gauge Commissioners without the
passing of an Act of Parliament ; and the Government, though
they had every confidence in the ability of the gentle-
men to whom the task was intrusted would not
act on the simple recommendations of the Commissioners, but
would first take every step to afford themselves and the Mem-
bers of the Legislature an opportunity of judging whether the
recommendations of the Commissioners were founded on the
promises submitted to them. He knew the anxiety of the
House on the subject, and they would, therefore, think it right
that the Government should not take any steps until they had
had an opportunity of examining the evidence furnished to
them, which he expected would be laid upon the table in
the course of a fortnight or three weeks. No delay would
take place. It would have been furnished with the report,
but in the present state of public business it was impossible to
obtain the publication of a large body of evidence in a short
period.
Lord BROUGHAM was in favour of taking time to con-
sider the question, as their decision would effect an immense
amount of capital, and millions yet unborn. It was a mistake
to suppose that the report had given general satisfaction to
engineers and scientific men.
Lord H ATHERTON said the House must bear in mind
that the Commission was appointed on the recommendation of
those interested in the narrow gauge. Great caution and
deliberation was therefore necessary. Before he sat doom he
wished to call the attention of the House to the absolute neces-
sity of maintaining the principle of competing lines between
large and populous towns. Passengers passing between
London and Birmingham and London and Lancashire were at
the mercy of one company. The interest of the public could
not be secured without competition, and he hoped their Lord-
ships' Railway Committees would boar this fact in mind.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY perfectly agreed with
the Noble Lord, that the interest of the public could only be
secured by the establishment of competing lines. In the part
of the country with which he was connected, nearly all the
railways were under the management of one company, and
from what had transpired at a recent meeting held in York,
he learned that it was proposed to amalgamate all the lines in
the north of England, and to place them under the manage-
ment of one individual.—( Hear, hear.) Still, when he
thought of the importance of those measures, he thought the
time was come when the Government should be cautious
about their proceedings, and that it was their duty to nar-
rowly watch those Bills that came up proposing to connect
railway branches, docks, and canals, with great competing
lines. At the same time, he entirely agreed with his Noble
Friend, that it was absolutely necessary that there should be
competing branch lines.
Earl GREY said he had one observation to correct respect-
ing what had been stated at his side of the House. He could
assare their Lordships that the Commission on the gauges
was not asked for by gentlemen who were inte-
rested in railway lines. He ( Lord Grey) supported
the Hon. Member for Stockport, who moved the address to
have that Commission appointed. At that time, he (Earl
Grey) was in favour of the broad gauge, and he believed they
asked for the Commission exclusively on these grounds—that
they thought it was most important to have the question in-
vestigated by competent authorities in order, if possible, to
remedy the inconveniencies that would arise by a difference of
gauge. He thought that was the question which ought to be
referred chiefly to a proper authority. Her Majesty's Govern-
ment had appointed Commissioners, who had ably discharged
the duty imposed on them, and he (Earl Grey) considered that
the Report was a most able document. He could not differ
from the Noble Lord, notwithstanding that it would be proper
to take time to consider how they were to act, although that
was a case in which delay would create serious inconvenience,
as it was most important that the decision of Government
should be known with the least possible delay.
MILITARY OPERA'T'IONS IN INDi A.

The Duke of WELLINGTON—I have to acquaint your
Lordships that my Noble Friend, the President of the Board
of Control will, on Monday, submit to your Lordships certain
resolutions relating to the proceedings of the forces of her
Majesty in their late operations in the East Indies. Your
Lordships will receive, on Thursday or Friday next, certain
papers referring to those operations, in order that your Lord-
ships:may have thefallest information on the subject.—( Hear. )
The Earl of ST. GERMANS having obtained permission
from Earl Grey to allow his Bills to take precedence of the
resolutions which the Noble Earl intended to propose, brought
up the report on the
PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) BILL.
Certain amendments were then proposed and agreed to with-
out diqiussion.
THE PIERS AND HARBOURS (IRELAND) BILL.
Earl ST. GERMANS, in moving that this Bill be read a
second time, said that the money proposed to be lent by the
Bill would, in a great measure, develope the very great natural
resources of Ireland, which at present lay dormant in conse-
quence of the poverty of her people. When proper piers, &c.
were constructed, the people would be furnished with employ-
ment, and a cheap and wholesome fo id. It was a remarkable
fact that in Ireland there were 700 miles of coast in which were
some of the finest harbours in the world, and yet there were
not more than 2,600 boats employed along the whole coast,
and the number of people employed in them did not exceed
80,000 or 90,1100. Now he thought it was most important the
native resources of Ireland should be encouraged and properly
developed. It was proposed to advance money to any county
that might require the same for the purpose of constructing
piers, &e. in the neighbourhood ; and that county was made
amply resposible for the repayment of the money so borrowed.
If a small district applied for money, that district was made
responsible ; and if a private individual were allowed any mo-
ney for these purposes, his land was pledged for the repayment
of the sum lent. He believed that a measure, which was simi-
lar to the present, and had passed a session or two ago, had
worked well, and he had therefore much pleasure in moving
the second reading of the present Bill, as he confidently be-
lieved that it would work equally well.
The LORD CHANCELLOR having put the question,
Lord MONTEAGLE rose for the purpose of giving his
support to the Bill. He hoped that the people of Ireland
would receive these measure in the same spirit as they had
been proposed by the Government.—( Hear, hear. ) It was
his good fortune, in conjunction with the Noble Lord opposite
Lord Stanley) to introduce a Bill for the Promotion of Pub-
lic Works in Ireland. That Bill gave equal satisfaction to
the public and its friends, because the benefits which had, by
its operation been extending throughout Ireland, had greatly
exceeded the anticipations of those by whom the measure had
been recommended.—( Hear, hear.) The first proposition
made to Parliament was considered by many as an ex-
perimental measure. They created four or five boards, with
another in which all power was vested, to consolidate the e hole
of the departments. That board was entrusted with the super-
vision of the whole, and he (Lord Monteegle) believed that its
success was mainly owing to the spirit, the skill, anti the un-
questionable integrity of his Gallant Friend Sir John Bur-
goyne. There had been no loss sustained by the public worth
speaking of, because they had gained by the interest paid by in-
dividuals in loans, more than they expended in the same manner.
But what had they been doing in the course of the ten, or
rather the sixteen years, which had intervened since the passing
of that Act. Such hail been the confidence maintained by the
Board of Public Works in the public mind, that the Govern-
ment had thrown vastly increased labours upon them. They
had cast upon them every duty in Ireland which they did not
know how otherwise to get rid of. If they tried any
great system of drainage, the Board of Public Works,
were saddled with it. If they found a harbour mismana god
they transferred its regulation from the local authorities to
the Board of Public Works. The management of Maynooth
was thrown on that Board, and the alterations in the present
Bill were also to be carried into execution by them. The fact
was, they were overweighing the willing horse, and destroying
the efficiency of an admirable Board. They had lost his
Gallant Friend in whom they had had so much confidence, still
it was their duty to make up for the deficiency. They ought
to take instant steps to give efficiency to the Board of Works,
and nothing was so important in that direction as employing
competent engineers, and men of science, who might devise
improvements, by which a great addition would be made to the
employment of the people. This was particularly important
in the present emergency ; and he further entreated the
Noble Lord not to rest satisfied with the present Bill, or with
the pa esent money vote, but to bring forward other measures
adapted to meet the present state of Ireland.
The Duke of RICHMOND supported the present Bill, and
said he would not only be happy to vote for it, but for any mea-
sure the House of Commons might send up to give employ-
ment, and calculated to improve the condition of Ireland.
The Bill was then read a third time.
THE GAME LAWS.
Lord DACRE rose to move the second reading of the
Game Law Bill, and in doing so, said he would proceed to re-
view the laws that had hitherto been in operation relative to
game. In taking a retrospect of those laws for the last thirty
years, he regretted the manner in which the condition of the
lower orders, particularly those of the agricultural body, had
been affected. In 1816 a committee had sat upon this question,
when the absurdity and inconsistency of the game-laws then in
operation were fully shown. A committee of the other House,
which sat in 1816, entered into a careful investigation of the
law at that period. They examined with great minuteness the
decisions of various jtv:ges, particularly the decision of Chief
Justice Holt, particularly the case of Sutton v. Moody, in
which it was held that game belonged to the owner of the
land. He (Lord Deere) brought in a Bill into the other House
in 1819, which was in accordance with that decision—
namely, that game belonged to the owner of the soil,
which, however, was not passed; but since that period
nothing had occurred to alter this opinion. The Ist
and 2d of William IV., on this subject, was an identi-
cal transcript of the Bill which he lost in the Commons in
1819, and it would have served all die objects contemplated,
had the Bill been retained—the principle that the possession of
land gave the property in game. This Bill, however, intro-
duced a fiscal regulation, which authorised the granting of
licenses for the sale of game, and which rendered the licensed
dealer liable to penalties if he purchased from a person who
was not liable to sell. The qualification, however, to sell de-
pending on fiscal regulation laid the law open to several
abuses, and the Bill he now proposed would be far more
strigent, in so far as it would prevent the poacher from having
any intercourse with the licensed dealer. Therefore the
licensed dealers should be liable to the same punishment for
having in their possession game without having entered the
quantity and the person from whom it was purchased. That
Bill substituted fiscal licenses for a real property in the game
which was generally adopted in France; that would be the
thief regulation. That interference with licensed dealers in
game it was necessary to make, for it was important to know

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from whom the game was obtafned, for if not from a person in bad come. They had, therefore, prepared a special report
possession of land, it might be fairly concluded that / containing the resolution of the Committee upon this ease'
it had been obtained illegally. The principal object He did not consider that the promoters of this Bill had BBY'
of the Bill was to cut off all intercourse between thing to complain of, as they were publicly told Bben
.
the poacher and the licensed dealer in game; the Committee had come to a decision that the tleais.ln
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and to render it dangerous to the latter, if lie should was, that the Bill should not be allowed to be proceeded B'B.•:;_
purchase from any (me not qualified by having in his possession Upon that occasion, though he had not an accurate recollection
a certain quantity of land. He was far from wishing to make of the circumstances, still he had not the slightest doubt ths!
any stringent regulations, and he would not say that ten or fif- he had stated the decision to he that the standing order hota_
teen acres were not sufficient for a persists to rear a considerable not been complied with. The Committee were further desist.
ted
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quantity of game. But he would have the purchaser enter in of considering what part of these consequences could be attrib
a book the quantity of game, and from whom purchased. That to them, and they had also instructed their Chairman to frao's
was one of the principal objects in the Bill, which presented cc That so much of the report of the Select Committee
itself to his mind, for the protection of game without being in- Standing Orders, presented to this House on Friday latiso,
jurious to the liberty of any class. Ile would also propose to relates to the West Riding Union Railway petition ; Rill
examine any applications from the occupier of lard, corn- that the order of the House of the same day, that a P
plaining of the injuries from game possessed by any neighbour- brought in, in consequence of that report, be annulled." coe
ing occupier, and to consider to what extent he had suffered 11r. WOOD considered that if ever there was the
from the game possessed in neighbouring preserves. He pro- in which a lenient construction should be put upon
nr,
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posed that the magistrates should in a word haee older! of the House, the present was one in rter
the power of appointing surveyors, to examine where wards of 55 miles of railways there was but one qua,io
the game had injured any neighbouring lands Hear.) of a mile of dissent ; and considering that the s
These were the principal points of the Bill which le had to would confer vast benefits upon the West Riding
submit to their Lordships' attention, and as it was merely an he would urge the case upcn the favourable consideration
amendment of the Act if the Ist and 2d of William IV., and
placed game under a better regulation thar it had hither to been
put, he enter tamed a very sanguine expectation of obtaining 1
their Lordships' assent. He-
is principal object was to raise di
culties of communication between the poacher and the licensed of Yorkshil';
dealer. It enabled the rightful proprietor of game to preserve
his property, and gave him rights of remedy against those par-
ties who ;reserved game to a greater extent than the support
which their land could provide. It was an improvement on the
protection given by the Act of the let and 2d William IV., and
that being the full extent of his amendment, he would coisfine
himself to the moving of the second reading of the Bill
before the House, and begging their Lordships' best attention to
its provisions.
Lord CAMOYS entertained very strong objections to the
whole of the clauses of th s Bill. He thought it was ex-
tremely improper at this time to snake the game-laws more
stringent than they already were. As the law at present stood,
a certificate was required to sell game, which in his opinion
was sufficient restriction. He had objections to several other
clauses, and he thought that it would have been batter, in
coincidence with the opinions of many other persons, that a re-
mission, rather than an extension of these restrictions, should
be made. But he still more objected o the provisions of the
7th clause, and thought that any recompense obtained from a
neighbouring proprietor would occasion much heart-burning
and mischief. He also objected to the 9th clause, which re-
pealed that portion of the section of the sth and 6th Vie.,
which provided that half the penalties in convictions under
that Bill should go to the informer. On the whole he consi-
dered the Bill was far too stringent, and afforded no increased
facilities to check poaching.
Lord BROUG HAM admitted that the law did require
some revision. He considered, however, that the greatest
caution was necessary in making any alterations in the exist-
ing laws.
The Duke of RICHMOND considered it advisable for their
Lordships to go into Committee on the subject, and they might
be able to suggest such alterations as were required. He was
of opinion that it was a subject which superinduced loose and
dissolute habits among young men, and tended very much to
produce demoralization among a large class of the community.
With regard to the reports which had been of late circulated
in the newspapers, that he (the Duke of Richmond) had paid
a large sum for damages done by game, he had to say that
the report was quite unfounded, for he had never paid any
damages of the sort ; so far from his encouraging game, he
destroyed all the hares and rabbits which he could find on his
own lands, as he considered them as nothing but mere vermin,
which were as injurious to the landowner as they were to the
farmers. As such a rumour, however, had been repeated in
many newspapers, he would give it a most unqualified denial,
for he bad destroyed game long before the celebrated Tam-
worth decree.
Lord HATHERTON expressed his concurrence in the ob-
servations made by the Noble Duke who had just sat down, in
reference to the destruction of game. He had exterminated
an immense quantity of game on his own property, and he
could not exaggerate the satisfaction which it gave him, to see
his estates almost exempt from their depredations. Such a
result wa • beneficial alike to the tenants and farmers.
Lord AsS lIBURT:iN said that the observations which had
been made by his Noble Friend (the Duke of Richmond) were
entitled to the greatest possible respect. This subject had
deservedly occupied much time in public discussion, and it
had also occupied a prominent place in the public prints. He
concurred with all that had been said by his Noble Friend;
the anima's alluded to by the Noble Duke were indeed nothing
but vermin. He would recommend that when their Lord-
ships went into Committee on this Bill they should take
" hares" entirely out of the class of game.—( Cheers.) He
was quite persuaded that if their Lordships did so they would
in the simplest manner possible get rid of all the unfounded
complaints that had hitherto been made.— (Hear, hear.) He
would venture to trouble their Lordships with an instance of
the unjust operation of the present game-laws : A .poor man
who had a garden near Southampton, which he cultivated as a
sort of market-garden, found last year, when he was about to
reap his expected harvest, that a quantity of rabbits had entered
into his garden and totally destroyed his crop. He was de-
termined to put an end to this sort of destruction, and he
accordingly set a trap. It was discovered shortly afterwards
that he had ensnared a rabbit; he was taken before the magis-
trates of the district en a charge of entrapping game, and
eventually fined in a large MOO and costs. Now that he con-
sidered to be a most unjust case, because it was evident that the
only object which he had in view in laying the snares was the
protection of his property.—( Hear, hear.) He should, with
their Lordships' pleasure, when • Bill went into Committee,
propose a clause to exclude hares from the list of game.—
(Hear, hear.)
The was then read a second time, and ordered to be
committed on Monday next.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

House.
Mr. B. DENISON considered that as the line 101,1se,
longer opposed, and as the two opposing companies were 9;e
gamated, he could see no serious objection to the whole soh o
Mr. A G LIONBY said that he hoped the House WOUld
_,;,
vest to the proposition of the Hon. Member. Helm gam
really meant that they should take into their consider
same fares as before, it would be opening a very danger
door for constant application to the House, and for rest:Mao,
the decisions of the Standing Orders' Committee. °eve
quite ready to take the whole case into consideration. coe&o.
the effect on the public with the mistake made by the ohs
mince, and the parties might reap some advantage from sa
course. erect!!
Mr. CHARLES WOOD said that he felt himself dipg
satisfied with the decision that had been given by the St°
Orders' Committee.
Lord MORPETH said that he conceived that the vocal
of that Bill were quite able to make out a strong.cu%p Is
with that they had nothing to do. He thought that 10 0.04,
meet the justice of the case (the mistake having beenelawbssl
that the Bill should be referred to the Committee will'
the mistake originated.
The motion was then put and carried. of tbs
Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition in favour, Lod
total and immediate repeal of the corn-laws. The Noble
did not say from what place.
EAST INDIA POSTAGE. eoss
Mr. HUME moved for copies of the orders and reg! ittt
or
respecting the carriage of letters and newspapers within tss: 01
ral presidencies of the East India Company, stating the' epoar
rates of pottage for letters and newspapers in the intents a for
munication of the country, and the charge for letters &Doe
newspapers brought by sea from England and others are'
and for transmission to the several places in India, 21..10
turn of the aggregate amount of postage received by °watts°
India Company, at each of their Presidencies, and the °foist(
incurred for the service of the post at each Presidency, 'Lots
whether the letters and dispatches of the public delta
arc scut free of expense in India.
CAPE OF GOOD HOPE. rape
Mr. HUME moved that an address be presented to berdireet
jesty, praying that she would be graciously pleased t,1400
that copies of all applications from the colonists of the ;toil
Good Hope, made to the Colonial-office, fora Represe_eieest
Government, be laid before this House, together with c°!toilt.t
the answers thereto; that copies of all applications ofto'ol 110
import, from other British Colonies, be also laid be
1
House. —Ordered. 04
Cosalal V
Sir R. H. INGLIS moved that a Standing ores
of Sixteen Members be appointed to assist Mr. Sp
refs
the direction of the library, and to whom shall be.t,
_llii
all matters relating thereto :—Sir Robert Harry larfl;Fe"
Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lord J. Russell, Sir j_
Mr. Baring, Mr. Williams Wynn, Mr. Rutherforolfei,' •
Shaw, Viscount Palmerston, Viscount Mahon, colt; fit. le
Mr. Pendarres, Mr. Arland, Sir William Somerville, a
so
Dundas, and Mr. -Monekton Milnes. e t a°st
Mr. HUME hoped that the Right Hon. flataeee to
cc.la
have no objection to give a power to the Cornmitteto t it,i-,
on octavo paper, all such documents as they 'if' to °Otte
proper to print. He thought that it would be well dot
such an experiment; he had no doubt that t° ,
would meet with the concurrence of Hon. Members.,
to, 470
Mr. S. CRAWFORD objected to the printing °I, weeitlep
meats in octavo, in consequence of the expense. ke siperesalleoi
shameful if the public money were expended in succe ssi
Dr. BOWRING felt that the appointment of th,oo,
Committee would give great satisfaction to the Kept 104esler
the country. Similar steps had been taken in . ~,V
Chamber of Deputies and the Belgian House ef 0 0,
tives. He did think that the libraries of the Hossa_eepee,
,AI
much enriched with valuable productions on coh
ere off,
tistics, politics, &c., if a mutual arrangement scar tes K.
into between this and other Governments
ehf 019ot
change of a copy of every work published in afpee,,"
An arrangement of that sort was proposed by the . 91
vernment with that of this country some years !fool! illi
an arrangement were entered into, it would be teeeesslelill
wise treaty'which they had ever made.—( Hears's, ''
had no doubt that the Right Hon. Baronet (511;tioe.
would have no objection to entertain such a propost I e
Sir R. INGLIS.--Certainly not. ergit °los 4ii
The CHACELLOR of th EXCH elersl- '
thought the mat had better bee left to the colloid'
the House rather than come to any precipitate `le
was then decided that five should form a quorum' ,"
PRIVATE BILLS. tiastla
On the motion of Mr. STRU FT, Mr. II°" J
m
cused from attendance on all private Rills. AeLe'ot'
CROWN PRSECUTIONS IN IRELted,_. 0
On the motion of Mr. PICOT, it was 001%eoPelill°
minutes in the offices of the Treasury, the 1-1°;01°,4
offices of the Irish Government, and in the po'. toes
Law Officers of the Crown, respecting the anrilottel 0, .11:91
Solicitors of the Crown for Crown presecutions,.,"o
respecting the appointment of Messrs. Seed, Fulk!l'op le ter
and all other minutes relating to Crown prosecutta Os
subsequent to the Treasury minute of 3d June,
upon the table. Y. 61,1
RETIRED LIST OF THE NAV aote ..frl)
Admiral DUNDAS wished to ask the Right elbstr,
man, the Secretary of the Admiralty, why it wat.anesd jf
had been given to those officers of the Navy via. Or;
to be put upon the retired list? thet #l-04111-
Mr. CORRY said that he was not aware se 0,
would be expected until the Government vrere,4l.o tlfilia
satisfy the many claims of those officers. w ;tes , ei
estimates were submitted to the House, the sap fit
claims would he included. • claileff its
Sir C. NAPIER wished to know whether %lotto o,pi
with the Treasury or with the Admiralty in th 0.0064 it
was well known that it was not intended top, fie is
the retired list which had been Published' eeleetrat
that the letters of all those officers who had °osier
names ought to be returned to them, that tbett. 0 er
put into a bad position in making lleole I /
to the new list, as they had already sine pel,
by the delay. u a heeer Oti
Mr. CORRY was not aware that there ete alets
—the matter would be settled as soon as t'''
could be prepared. V
ADJOURNED DEBATE' piir li
On the order of the day being read, obe*
Mr. MORGAN J. O'CONNELL said the, ss ~,,ell
was about to make should be confined as elosaidte tot', 15.,"
the subject of the debate. He would net' ad top 0/
Members for Huntingdon and Kilrnarnocktoor';:d V
Lord the Member for Newark, travel into el!to oftb ossi‘
but he would confine himself to the strict Wert $ jes
before the House. He should not ihe 14011
say that his opinions had altere", tipelle
oil
upon this question within the 'node WV
it,
He was at one time prepared to adopt a Ital woe, etaps„
not as a permanent measure, but as one eshia 13ece tr., aip
to endure for a considerable number of PIO slajpew 00
confess that his opinions upon this subject , tly Ole,
dergone a considerable change, particuthie,
fdp
period of the last autumn and winter. ' eV ir a
of the potato crop in Ireland wasaoeselidi hpl,Vps
lead to the expectation of a
etekle 01 tr l'est
of all duty upon that necessary • ht seiO4 le
meant corn of every description. It mig its •90 o'o
opinion as an individual would be of littletteoo.olol4
this question, but he should say that hisfeeispil the Vie
attracted to it by the threatened famine Masreas• i„° 000 0
of October last. In that month the c' op 'All"
first showed itself. He was speaking n ireis esr,
ing of many Honourable Members from eissm tdso:
felt assured they could not say that beget's:o)9e
exaggeration, when he stated that it was a,a,Paseeiteslitel 01
in Ireland during that month that the po'ible Woo g#01461
thrown open. It was also a most remarks oe At Ott I 00
of the most ultra protection papers said, :oriel Ole
subject ; and it was not until the wise and 000 01 01 11:1;
the Right Hon. Baronet had been aar'peoola 010 40'
was raised by those papers, and ht.(' bad Ole ftsi
one of the most strange cries sliat the for _pool
Yes, a cry was raised to the effect t I opt veto of
party famine, and not a real one, but o°,B„,rher °Oil, oriel)
pose of restoring the Noble Lord the Ale'-oteot fieocted 00
his supporters to power_; and to such auojerstelfee efroloslS
even the high station, character, and wie those leietiaes
Duke of Leinster did not save him, en" ea 1.10- olv otpit
him on the Mansion-house Committee, lee,aderep be ees
charge of partizanship. Those charges vier
01;001010,;, ore
had been most disastrous, for many uteepersaae' of ooh
in October were prepared to enter into soigenesf, to id Per
or to take any other steps which the, beg oorehoet,oo:
might require—these men. unfortunate?; Woo oil/
existence of scarcity. Thera was ,° be ,j ta,Coe.o,l
tion to the factious course, whichc refel" fe, feet'ts;
over, as the body to which h him ('tee ttstrisst4
posed of gentlemen who differed froliojed ta. coat theli
in politics as well as religion. HO a 00 theeote ea qi
clergy of Ireland.—( Hear, hear. )e, ,teteMoeisseossloorof
Protestant clergy gave unexaggeratfair sod :it. reter.j.
I,
that came under their notice Ina ~, op th. obste4f
which reflected the highest create.) i3eset, he, &VA,
and Christian charity.—( Hear, helot, w 1 heal Or fee
have been their hopes in November„,,e„ had, oeter)',st il
the state of Ireland at present?
tietoL'eitite oil. for te[nottoio.
night from official authority,sta beeelhed thatetelt liee
character, corroborated by the eln9;,, ow te_eo to
Recorder for Dublin, tke other rafts*ioneellLa,,, ofote(4
was exaggerated ; but he (Mr.e üboonderf 74,10001 g i
such were the case, it was (`tithe hear.) e t be dtol /
Gentleman to prove it. '
---( 'rear aisertian' "fl"` 1111°"014;i
tented himself with making the
......, Cries `that bo_,,,yeli, ~
the proof, as did his supportoeirds l
fella` ira' reit fieeole jet!' if'
and he (Mr. O'Connell) sho
net p cut oesetiot. ts-cts Jo
sertion, without proof, would
0,,...c5p ot
.40 deoterd
(Hear, hear.) The greatest b Li'"
lungs' pot
not Prot sate/t
with the most stentorian lung', pot beiag la_,;steleXt/
contradiction of the statemcnotf
the di"resegellneertelletet
mained the sad corroboration es. „..5 been 0 to.thiclj fitoJ,
parts of Ireland. This distr He seas . ,
wreat - he heed .rte
however, ter the des d t est' f 0 p
fear that ache g I o pre
derangement, there is,
not so. There is reason to
._ „.21.° re_
enstoo cot*, ~,
the potato crop last year_ raeYrecp h
for t•-'_ otst°,or Po" 11
which is to be produced the ,
es that the Nis ), oe ,etee'
even if we could ensure ourseeiv.e_rvot 0! thsserpe fel,
should be as abundant as th °a
to remeert a" sejeOlits4
deficient, we should still hay.e
__.... toy no
to et
~,,or
~,
weecuriiitayvewhabtecevner
stittedth i ssod:sico'n'geoordrpoelo
vs
id (,)fh.tviteir: jrfi',.,,l
tion it was through ti 7,,, 'We
17.00 00.100 e,,,e00
rather than any means w n_l"-so- , ":0
„..'o',l opo 000 7 tax
to prevent it. There were, 'for
their
root, dieo' other e . ic
of Ireland should not depeuoc 'being a „ Thee,th 14. two
The first was, that the pntart, !king them aerearaa.con,
,OPOOOI,,
seen until the time came foiatinacie its Toy :La 1,0 pt.rpersot
was, that now the disease tot la i,
or n'entoes fa° the ‘lettiesi itfi
knowing how far it may go ollY P°" land w 45 0 nst 01' of°'
sidered that the great reason
~.
of lee
._.rp ageoodeee eel,
a part of the food of thea 0%, siferteYl.o);,"es of ovirtel,rorl
bread and other cor • le of , t the refers)
e a 01 , t
as much the food of there eop
I well haw allite erttons Iflo 9
farmers. He did not know.endition.
preatoo
js,
otrv"
laarwestelmdilblylolwloenr. INthleemotods.otioepoosietfe ttre habioolgserlriiteettaeo
roeloe4l°
'lF°' olicy irlt _ 1301,
fads''
le
pastsibly
had low
tear o tghheti r
him
presteentdstrust tbel:ry ochai, coal! of OSP
freely made by the al 0 _oieecialy
nt, of tb!lei 0 joiof
was a change in the • le! _ ore,,j!,b . ,ro
of
~
io
sale
.010400.
Right Hon. Gentlerneanf talluats:last nett; of e or ..,
had alluded to some he prodaa apdo • tg
re to fearuin •srt Ofin
eluding swine, we ,o fore,
'armlsts
The grazing farmer, and t . reed over . it pig
Three plillioll4 tad a P
A

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Tuesday, "Feb. 24.
The SrHamm tot k the Chair at a few minutes before Four.
The following Bills were read a second time, and were
ordered to be committed, viz.:—

No. 2. _ _
Great North of England Railway Purchase.
Great North of England and Boroughbridge Branch Railway,
Great North of England and I3edale Branch Railway.
Blackburn, Preston, and East Lancashire Railways Amalga.
'nation.

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