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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, July 31.
Their Lordships assembled at Five o'clock.
Messengers from the Commons brought up several
Bills.
RUGBY AND LEAMINGTON RAILWAY BILL.
The Earl of STRAFFORD moved the third reading
of this Bill.
Lord KINNAIRD objected to the motion, on the
ground that the parties residing in Leamington had not
been heard before the Committee, who deeided against
bi ea ring them before they had had an opportunity of
opening their case against the Bill. He concluded by
moving the postponement of the third reading until
Monday.
Lord CAMOTS defended the Committee, and detailed
their proceedings. No appearance was entered upon
the petition from Leamington, so that they had no right
to be beard. It was true an application was made to be
beard, but the Committee decided against hearing them.
But the case of the petitioners was fully heard on another
petition, and therefore, whether they were heard or
not in their case, their opposition was virtually heard,
and was fully before the Committee, who were not
guilty of any injustice. The parties had, however, no
right to be heard, because their petition was not pre-
sented to the House until the 17th. Their appearance
was not entered in time. He therefore should support
the Noble Lord the chairman of the Committee (Lord
Strafford). -
The Earl of STRAFFORD said, he concurred in many
of the statements which bad fallen from his Noble
Friend who had just sat down.
Lord KINNAIRD said, after what had fallen form
the two Noble Lords, who were members of the Com-
mittee to whom the Bill was referred, he must persevere
in his motion that the third reading be postponed till
Monday.
Lord MONTEAGLE said the question was—a Bill
was referred to a Select Committee and the
parties ap-
peared, and they were to be deprived of the power of
being heard. If the case was as stated by his Noble
Friend, and that the parties did appear before the Bill
was taken into consideration, he did think it was
unjust if they would n)t allow them to be heard. What
earthly ground was there why this demand should be
refused?—(Hear.) Except what he had heard in the
House that night, he was not acquainted with the matter
before their Lordships ; but, as a matter of justice,
he thought the parties had a right to be heard.
Earl GREY said it was very natural that the parties
should appear in the first instance, because it would
decide in what order the Committee should consider the
Bill.

Lord BEAUMONT said he was himself chairman
of a Committee when the landowners were permitted to
be heard when they came in due time. He did not
think that any rule existed on this subject ; but it did
appear to him that parties whose land was
to be taken forciby away, had a right
to be heard to the last moment.—(Hear, hear.) Let
them suppose a case of a bad Bill which was to be pro-
posed. Before the parties opposing that Bill entered
into the expanse incidental on opposing the Bill, they
might wish to have some certainty on the question, and
therefore he thought they were entitled to indulgence.
The Earl of RADNOR said he thought that the
rules of the Committee should be adhered to ; and,
therefore, he conceived there were no grounds whatever
for these allegations.
Lord BROUGHAM said he thought the rule was to
receive petitions up to the last moment. Now what he
wanted was that the party should be compensated against
the injury done him. Now there was a ease of an hotel,
and the railway was to come within thirty-five yards of
that hotel. Now it was not very pleasant to the parties
stopping at that hotel to be subjected to the noise of the
trains, and to have the dust which they would occasion
thrust down their throats.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord CA ;TOYS said the Noble Lord had brought
forward a case quite different from that before the House.
The promoters of the Bill had offered remuneration, hut
those terms had been refused. He understood when the
question was put, that the railway did not touch his
property, therefore, ho did not come within the operation
of the law of compensation.—(Hear, hear.)
The Marquis of AYLESBURY thought that the pe-
tition should have been received, and the case of the
petitioner heard. lie would support the amendment of
the Noble Lord.
Lord BROUGi-TAM again referred to the question of
compensation, Instances could be shown where com-
pensation was given, though the property of the person
who received it was not teuebed by the railway. The
Commissioners, who lately reported on the central rail-
way termini, gave it as their opinion that even where
there was no direct injury, such as the passing of the
railway over property, compensation should be, given.
Lord KINNAIRD would press the amendment to a
division.
Lord STRAFFORD said that after what had occurred,
he hid no objection to postpone his motion till Monday
next, agreeably to the desire of the Noble Lord.
THE CHOLERA IN LONDON.
The Earl of FITZIIARDINGE said he had seen an
announcement in the Times newspaper of this day, on
the authority of the Lord Mayor, that the cholera had
broken out in London. The statement put forth did not
distinctly state the species of cholera which had so
*broken out, and in order to allay anxiety on the subject,
be wished to ask his Noble Friend below him (the Mar-
quis of Lansdowne) whether the Government had
received any official information on the subject.
The Marquis of LA.NSDOWNE had seen the state-
ment in the Times of this day, and considered that great
importance was attached to it on account of its emanat-
ing from so high an authority as the Lord Mayor of
the City or London. His Noble Friend, in using the
term cholera, seemed to imply that it was of that virulent
species which was denominated Asiatic cholera, which
caused so much alarm throughout Europe and in this
city some years ago. He did not think the opinion of
the Lord Mayor was tantamount to create an impression
that Asiatic cholera was existing in this city ; and he
was extremely happy to make a statement which could
not tail to be satisfactory to his Noble Friend and the
House. It was strictly true that a very confident opi-
nion prevailed in this city that Asiatic cholera had existed
for some time in London, but especially in the lower,
and consequently densely-populated districts. Imme-
diately- on the Government being apprised of the exist-
ence to' such an impression, they employed an officer,
who bad practised in the hospitals of this city, to in-
quire into the subject, and he was sent into all the
localities which had been indicated as being affected
by the cholera. He visited those houses and those
lodgings, and reported in the course of the following
day. that he could not find a single instance bearing the
character or symptoms of Asiatic cholera.—(Heer,
hear.) Not, however, content with this, ho visited the
hospitals in the immediate -neighbourhood of these lo-
calities, and he did not find in any of these establish-
ments a single case of cholera.—(Efear, hear.) He cer-
tainly did find an increase of those diseases which were
irequsnr ly found at hot seasons of the year, and a species
of acrid cholera which was not unfreqaent in this
country. Therefore he thought the /Luse might rely,
that as far as this report was concerned, no alarm need
prevail on the subject. Ha however, desired the
facer alluded to, and another connected with the
Medical Board, to be on the look out. He had been at
the council-office that day, but up to that hour no iwi-
mation to the effect had been received. The Hon-c
might prevent, in some measure, the spreading of dis-
ease in hot seasons of the year, by passing a measure
before their Lordships for promoting cleanliness amongst
the labouring classes.
Lord BR )13-Gll Of stated that nothing could be
mere seeisfaciory th tie salternsnt of the Nobls Lard,
because nothing could be more pre;urlicial than to allow
such reports to remain uecontradicted if they were dp,_
void of truth. When he was in office he was in Formed
that the cholera htid prevailed for some tiroo before the
attention of the authorities was called io its existence.
He apprehended, however, that the anticipated disease
from the hot weather might be obviated by persons not
exposing themselves to sud,len chills, for at this period
of the year—in the end 04: July and in August—what was
termed " Lammas-t'iood," in Scotland prevailed to a
great r xtent. In the neighbourhood of Bedford-square,
in the mews behind it, English cholera prevailed, but not
to a great extent. He considered the Government ought
to have information from week to week ; but he con-
oidered that there was no ground for alarm, that the
cholera existed ; and no dangerous results mead be
anticipeted- if persons did not expose themselves to
chills, and did not eat raw vegetables. But there was an-
other kind of cholera which he called legislative cholere.
He alluded to the Bill for the Recovery of Small Debts,
and the Sugar Bill, which he called the Slave-trade Bill,
which he feared, from the late period of the session,
would not receive the attention they required. He
hoped no dele,y would take place, and that these im-
portant measures would be brought before their Lord-
ships at •he earliest possible period.
The Earl of FITZHARDINGE expressed himself
ltatisfied with the explanation.
Lord CAMPBELL, in presenting a petition from
Wi,beach, in favour of the Small Debts Bill, urged the
liana% to ease it without dr lay.
The Earl of ST. GERNIXNS hoped the Government
would pot postpone the Pissing of this Bill.
The Marquis of L
ONE said scarcely a day
passed without his receiving most
urgent entreaties to
-pass this Bill. Under these cvirrcounistinces it would he
the duty of Government to
Bill. ceea at once with this
After a few words from Lord Bar:rousse' and
GREY, the matter dropped. Earl
RAILWAYS.
The Earl of CLARENDON reported from the Select
Committee appointed to consider what Railway Bills
should be committed during the remainder of the ses-
sion. That the Committee were of opinion that the
following Bills ought to be exempted from the operation
of the resolution of the 7th of May :—The Liverpool,
Ormekirk, and Preson; the Glasgow and Belfast Union;
the Tiff
Vale Railway ; the Caledonian ; the Caledo-
nian and Govan ; the Manchester and Southampton ;
and the East and West India Dock Bill. The Noble
Lord, therefore, moved that the resolution of the 7th of
May be suspended in respect of those Bills.—Agreed to.
BATHS AND 11r AS 'IHOUSES.
Th© Marepie of LANSDOWNE moved the second
reading of this Bill.
EIIPLOYMENT OF THE PEOPLE OF IRELAND.
Lord MON rE A.GLE rose, pursuant to notice, to move
that a humble address be presented to her Majesty upon
- the subject of the encouragement of industry' and of
employment among the people of Ireland. He
dui not bring the subject forward in opposi-
--
Zion to tile Government.—(Hear, hear.) It was a sub-
. ject tviiiCh deserved the attention and support of
Lai Noble -Lords present. It was a question involving
no p considerations--it was a subject affecting the
' well-bring of the people of Ireland. He felt it his duty
to bring the matter furwsrd, and place it before the no-
: goo a dig GoielatlAat• ;IQ was Alie afie wituspep

son who would deny that the late general distress in Ire-
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the lowest kind of diet, which had entirely failsd—he al-
luded to the failure of the potato crop. Great exertions
were made by the late Government in introducing Indian
meal, which had prevented famine from reaching that
country, and it had also produced the most beneficial
effect in a moral point of view. It was a most difficult
problem to solve, in what manner a Government could
interfere with the food of the country, but that problem
had been most successfully solved by her Majesty's Go-
vernment in the course they had taken on this subject.
He was happy to say that the four first Bills passed
during this session of Parliament, were Bills for the im-
provement of Ireland, and for giving employment to the
people of that country. He thought that the Govern-
ment would have to contend with similar difficulties in
the ensuing year, unless they altered the present
system with regard to Ireland. He was not
himself an alarmist, but he really believed that
the prospects of the ensuing year were more alarming
than even the former year. There was a less quantity
of land under cultivation for the growth of potatoes than
in the preceding year, and the disease appeared to be
likely to be far more prevalent. He thought there were
symptons of an entire failure of the potato plant itself in
that country. Alluding to seasons of scarcity that had
previously taken place in that country, the Noble Lord
said they were not to be compared to the amount of
distress that was endured during the last season. He
believed that not a less sum than 800,0001. had been ad-
vanced to alleviate the distress of the country ; large
sum s hod been raised by private contributions. In the
county of Clare, Colonel Wyndham had advanced 6,000/.,
Lord Kenmaire 3,000/., another private gentleman 2,0001.,
the district committees raised 100,0001., and Govern-
ment had come forward with large sums for the same
purpose. There was also an immense amount of assist-
ance afforded by giving employment upon the laud. He
believed that great praise was due to the Commissariat
of Ireland. Commissariat-General Rowth and Gordon,
also deserved great praise for their indefatigable exer-
tions. In the time of Lord Grey's Government, he
(Lord Monteagle) introduced the Bill for the establish-
ment of the Board of Public Works, which was sub-
stituted for the other boards then existing ; but the im-
mense variety of business which came before them pre-
vented them from becoming so efficient on the late occa-
sion of distress as they otherwise would have been, had
their duties been confined to the proper and legitimate
business which was their peculiar function. He men-
tioned this for the purpose of showing the utter inade-
quacy of that board to discharge with effect the business
which was lately imposed upon them. He lately applied
to them, in conjunction with his friends Lord Clare and
Lord Kenmaire, to procure e eployment for the relief of
the poor people who were in distress in the county of
Kerry; but early as that application was made, the pre-
liminary surveys were not yet made of those works, on
which it was designed to provide them employment.
The Noble Lord then went into a variety of details, for
the purpose of showing that a better system of central
management for the public works of Ireland was neces-
sary. By the Act of Union the treasury of the empire
was as applicable to the wants of Ireland as to England
and Scotland. Scotland received the sum of 400,0001.,
and the condition of the people of Scotland was ad-
vanced one hundred years by that outlay. He con-
tended that there was an actual gain to the kingdom
by the expenditure of these grants. From 1822 to
1828, the revenue of the county Galway increased from
nothing to 6,800/. yearly, which completely covered the
outlay which had been made in that country, and to
which alone this increased revenue could be attributed.
The people of Ireland required superintendence more
than money, for they were not sufficiently improved in
knowledge to promote their interests in the best manner.
If they had an efficient board of works, this good would
be effected. In conclusion, he did not impute blame to
the public works, nor to the exertions of the late Go-
vernment, but he hoped that some steps would be taken
to have an efficient superintending board, for the pur-
pose of regulating the expenditure of the public grants,
and providing employment for the people.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that he had
listened with the greatest satisfaction to the address of
the Noble Lord, and he admitted the general accuracy
of the details entered upon. He hoped, however, the
Noble Lord and the House would excuse him, if he did
not go into a statement of the intentions of the Govern.
ment in regard to meeting the evils complained of. He
trusted also it would not be supposed that he avoided
doing so, because he was not aware of the importance of
it. He could assure the House that, as far as possible, it
would be the duty of the Government to do everything,
in its power to provide for the state of things referred to.
In reference to the messures of the late Government, he
must bear testimony that they had done great good,
though it must be admitted that the machinery
by which the relief was administered was very
imperfect. He had no fault however to find
with what they did, as they were called upon to act
under circumstances of great emergency, and it was not
to be expected they could bring into operation a perfect
system of machinery. lie begged to inform their Lord-
chips that the Government for the last week had been,
and would be for some time to come, engaged on the
consideration of a measure for giving greater efficacy to
the works, in order the more effectually to administer
relief to the people of Ireland, and tor possessing full
security for the application of the sums advanced, that
they were used to forward the welfare and comfort of
the people. He pledged himself to the general accuracy
of the details of the Noble Lord. He was sorry it was
not in his power to contradict him. Would to God that
he could say that the great evil which was expected
again to overtake Ireland was not such as
had been represented 1 He could not say
more at present. He felt thankful for the state-
ment made by the Noble Lord, that considering the late
period of the session' and seeing that the present Go-
vernment had but so lately acceded to office, he trusted
they would excuse him from further entering into
the subject at present. In a few days a full and
authentic statement would be presented to the other
House of the expenditure of money which had been
made under the Act which had been referred to, from
which it would be seen how the funds had been applied.
The Earl of DEVON hoped the House would allow
him to address a few words on this subject, as it was
one to which he had paid great attention. He thought
there could be no dispute as to the present principle of
employing the population on public works should there
be a scarcity of employment. He would not therefore
dispute that principle; but he would endeavour to show
the difficulties and obstacles which had caused the
measures adopted in relation to Ireland not being so
successful as was expected. He thought the difficulties
did not 'arise so much as to the employment of the
people on public works, but as t i the employment of
the people on the land. In the fill which had been
paved to facilitate the employment of the people, so
backward were the landed proprietors to take advantage
of the clause which authorised the borrowing of money
for improving the land, to be phi again with interest, in
ten rears, that only one proprieroe, the late Lord-
Lieutenant, took acivantele of it. The effect there(' le
had been that scarcely Arty employment was found fbr
the people through the operation of this clause. (The
Noble Lord gave some other instances of the saes cha-
racter, to show the difficulties that trore found in carrying
out the intentions of the Aces While on this subject he
must complitavhieenndotthsfnertmekteibopnyrodeedings of the late Govern-
rathestartigashttog tinh '4e-h:ecehn t tshk Ctit hitat passed eer otn6 itsheisi subject—that of fixing t@n rate of luterest, and the pa-
tied at which it Was to i$A r, aicl when applicetionn for
loans hat) Inert for' it them through the Heart of
Works. He thought the Governthent had 11.9% acts in
this !natter as they cu `ht to bk.-e clunk Ttie giving
many a means Of 4!± honest livelihood would
be the result of the itdarnation of this waste land. To
say that no non would result from reclaiming waste
Lehi appeared to him a perfect absurdity. These were
points to which he alluded—not for the purpose of coin
plaint, but merely that attention might be turned to the
subject. The last report made by the society on that
subject, showed that there were two thousand persons
on the estate in Ireland where at one time there were
not nine cabins, and not one of those individuals had
been convicted of a single offence,—(Hear, hear.)
It was, no doubt, of great importance that
the people should be employed, and to give that employ-
ment was the great object they all had in view. It
unfortunately happened, however, that the landlords of
Ireland were not able to do this. The report of the
Board of Works on this subject came too late to .enable
them to turn it to immediate account, and he trusted
that the House would act peremptorily in this matter.
Lord CLANCARTY said he thought a most im-
portant consideration had been brought before the
House. His Noble Friend had likewise brought before
the notice of their Lordships the advance that had been
made of public money. The officers of these public
works had done their work efficiently. He trusted that
a state of improved agriculture would be introduced,
that would give to the people of Ireland—as in England
—permanent employment ; but he thought at the same
time. that too much importance could not be given to
public works.—(flear, hear.)
Lord MONTEAGLE sail, after what had fallen from
the Noble Lord, he would not press his motion.
Tne motion was accordingly withdrawn, and their
Lordships adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, J 31.
The SPEAKER took the Chair shortlyuly
before Four
o'clock.
On the motion of Mr. GREENE, it was agreed, after
a short discussion, that the Lords' amendments to all
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The report on Lord Kinnaird's (Sir John *Webb's)
Estate Bill was further considered, and ordered to be
printed.
THE STOCKPORT IMPROVEMENT BILL.
Mr. BROTHERTON moved that the order of the day
for the tiiird reading of the Stockport Improvement Bill
be discharged, in order that a new Bill might be intro-
duced.
Mr. T. DUNCOMUE presented a petition,
signed by
5,096 inhabitants of Stockport against the Bill. The
petitioners stat.,cl that nine tenths of the inhabitants of
Stockport were opposed to the Bill. Ile would now
move that the Bill should be read a third time that
three months, as he never would agree f
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re da.lY
ing of such a tyrannical measure.
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Mr. BROTHERTON said that the motion made was tantamount to reading the Bill a he had
third tittle
that day three months.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that unless the Hor. o
able Gentleman would agree to the proposition uti).-f
postponing the third readin 4- for thre months
he should feel it to be his duty to etck the
ate
motion. 7:4a igeasura was a Wost atausioaa cud ty.

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rannical one, and no person approved of it except those
who were to benefit under it. The parties who opposed
the measure had asked the mayor to call a meeting,
which he refused to do, or even to lend tli•m the Tow n-
hall ; the result was, the meeting was held in the market-
place, and-resolutions were adopted against the measure,
which he believed to be a complete job. The parties
bad been deceived with respect to the Bill, and did not
know for some time who was the concoctor of the measure.
He wished to know whether the Hon. Member for Sal-
ford would consent to the withdrawal of the Bill with•
out the condition which he had stated, viz., on the un-
derstanding that he should be allowed to reintroduce
it on a future occasion. If the Honourable Gen-

tleman would agree to that, he (Mr. 151;nco; be)
would abstain at present from entering at any further
length into the merits of the Bill. The fourth clause
proposed to give to the town council of Stockport the
sum of 10.0001. out of the public funds ; and in
the distribution of that sum the ratepayers would
not have the slightest control. The proposition
contained in that clause was one of the most disgraceful
proceedings which any body of men calling themselves
liberal could make.
Mr. BROTHERTON said that he certainly should
not consent to the withdrawal of the Bill on the terms
proposed by the Hon. Gentleman.
Mr. DUNCOMBE said he would then go at length
into the objections which he had against this Bill.
Mr.HUME trusted that the Hon. Member for Finsbury
would allow him to suggest, that as the promoters of
the Bill were anxious to have it withdrawn, he (Mr. T.
Duncombe) would be saving the time of the House
by abstaining at present from any remarks on the de-
merits of the Bill. Of course he would have the
opportunity of making those remarks which he
intended now to make, should any attempt be
hereafter made to re-introduce it.—(flear, hear.)
He himself bad received several letters from some of
the most respectable ratepayers of Stockport, in confir-
mation of the statement of the Hoe. Member for Fins-
bury, and should the Bill be attempted to be re-introduced
he should heartily join with that Hon. Gentleman in
opposing the Bill, but he hoped that nothing would be
at present said which would have the effect of inflaming
the excited feelings of the people of Stockport.
Mr. DUNCOMBE said he had no objection to con-
sent to the withdrawal of the Bill on the terms proposed
by the Hon. Member for Salford.
Mr. BROTHERTON refused to alter the terms of his

prcwisal.
Mr. MARSLAND said that, as he was interested in
the question, being one of the representatives of Stock-
ton, he might perhaps be allowed to say a few words on
this question. The Honourable Gentleman the Member
for Finsbury had amused the mayor of being personally
interested in the question. He could assure the Hon.
Gentleman that the mayor had been represented as
hostile to the measure, because he had kept aloof, as
he had himself. They never were consulted as to
whether the waterworks should or should not be pur-

chased, and they did not know that it was in contemplation
to do so until he saw the announcement in the Guardian.
With respect to the observation that this was a job, it
was very far from the truth, as he was positive that there
was no job in it. He had with others objected to many
of its clauses. The town council of Stockport were far
more liberal than any body of the same nature to be
found in Finsbury. It was composed of rate-
payers, and all were admitted from the highest
to the lowest. It had been characterised as a
gross job by one of the magistrates who was not a
ratepayer, and who wished to make it a gross job. He
begged to say that, having objections to some of the
clauses, be had consulted as to the proper means of
opposing them.
Srl R. H. INGLIS said that the Hon. Member had
offered to withdraw his opposition, provided that no
other Bill were brought in. He (Sir R. H. Inglis)
thought that the late period of the session would gau-
ran'ee that no other measure of the kind could be
hr•aight in.
Mr. ESTCOURT said he had been drawn into this mat-
ter, and he had had a good deal of correspond( nce on the
subject. He did not think that if the House were to appoint
a Committee—he was satisfied that it would not, in the
opinion of the Hon. Member for Montrose, he such a
Committee as would be satisfactory. But he would
further observe that if the Hon. Member were to bring
in another Bill, as he trusted he would, be should have
his support.
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET was afraid that,
if another Bill were to be brought in containing the
same clauses it would he equally unsatisfactory.
Mr. BROTHERTON would emphatically deny the
charges that had been made against the inhabitants of
Stockport on this Bill. If the motion of the Hon. Mem-
ber for Finsbury for the withdrawal of this Bill were
acceded to by the House, he should certainly bring in
another Bill to the same effect. It was only the cot-
ton-spinners who wished the smoke of their factories

not to be stopped, and the publicans who wished to
keep their houses open on Sunday, and persons in
,a
similar position. who were petitioners against this Bill.
The Bill was for making parks. improving the streets,
and making other sanatory regulations. Great numbers
of Bills of similar character to this had been passed this
session without a word ; and if the Bill were thrown out
he should certainly bring in another Bill of the same
kind.

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that one division would do,
and he should, therefore, move that the Bill be read this
day three months.

Mr. litTME was anxious to have for Stockport fair
May. He thought, under the present circumstances. it
would he the best course to allow the order of the day
to be discharged. That done, he hoped, before the next
session of Parliament, some general measure would Ise
introduced for the regulation of police in all towns, and
also a measure for market improvements. He hoped
that at present the matter would be amicably settled
without a division.
Mr. B. ESCOTT wished the Hon. Member for Stock-
port to give some information of the meeting respecting
the Bill which had been referred to.

Mr. M NRSLAND could not give any information
respecting the meet.ng. He had left the town before
the meeting took place, and he had not had any com.
munication with the parties to it since then.
Mr. BRIGHT wished to bear testimony that the pro-
moters of the Bill had no other object in view than

the welfare of Stockport. The Al difficulty
perienced in that town was that the promoters
of the Bill were desirous of having pawer for
the levying of rates for the improvement of the town,
while the small ratepayers were against it, and at pre-
sent refused the granting of any rates for that purpose
at any meetings that might be called for that pur-
pose. No danger could arise from the passing of the
Bill, because the power was vested in the town council,
which represented the great body of the inhabitants.
lie had risen merely to give his testimony in favour of
the promoters of the Bill.

Mr. DUNCOMBE said he would withdraw his amend-
ment on the understanding that the Bill would be with-
drawn.
The amendment was then withdrawn, and the order
of the day for the third reading of the Bill discharged.
Mr. BROTHERTON then moved for leave to bring
in a fresh Bill on the subject—the Stockport Improve-
ment Act, No. 2.
Some discussion then arose as to wheti-er the Hon.
Member was in order in giving notice of a second Bill
ott the subject.
The SPEAKER said that it was competent for the
[lon. Member to move for leave to bring in a fresh Bill.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE thought the House should know
sothething of the nature of the Bill about to be intro-
ducAl.
Mr. BROTHERTON said he did not know what the
Bill would bt; if he had leave to bring in a Bill he
thought it would be one of the same nature as the pre=
s lit Bill; whieh had Wess approved of by the Inn,
d the Committee of Ways and -Means, Mr.
Greene.

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that the Hon. Member the
Chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means hitd
informed him that he had nothing to do with the Bill;
if; therefore, the Hon. Member for Salford proposed to
bring in a Bill similar to the one approved by that Hon.
Member, he did not know where it was to be found.
Sir G. GREY wished to explain to the House the
part he had taken in this Bill. Great objections were
made to several clauses of the Bill, and it was suggested
by the Hon. Member the Chairman of the Committee
of Ways and Means that it was a subject which should be
brought under the consideration of the Home-office.
He had accordingly examined the Bill, and had struck
out several objectionable clauses.
Mr. MARSLAND said that he had objected to se-
veral clauses of the Bill, but he thought it a very
anomalous state of things that the Bury and Manchestir
Improvement Acts should have been passed with pre-
cisely the same clauses as there were in the present Bill,
and yet that this Bill was not allowed to be proceeded
with.

Mr. GREENE said, that on a former occasion when
the Bill was before the House, he stated his oinion that
several of the clauses were of a highly objectionable
nature ; he was still of the same opinion.
Mr. HUME hoped the Hon. Member for Salford
would not 'press his Bill at the present time. He
was sure that the Bill would not be allowed
to pass with its present objectionable clauses.
It was impossible for any man to suppose that it was
possible to carry such a Bill as this through the House,
and he, therefore, as a peacemaker, begged of his Hon.
Friend the member for Salford not to persist in his
motion.—(Hear, hear.) _ _ _

Mr. ESTCOURT approved of the suggestion of the
Hon. Member for Montrose. There could be no ne-
cessity for pressing this Bill forward during the present
session. The Hon. Member for Finsbury, as well as the
Chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means, had
inspected the Bill, and pronounced it to be
an unjust measure. Under these circumstances he
should vote with the lion. Gentleman the Member for
Finsbury.

Mr. BItOTHERTON said he had no personal interest
whatever in the Bill, nor had he any strong feeling either
for or against it ; but he did hope that the House would
exercise its discretion in this matter. Whatever their
decision might be, he should cheerfully bow to it. No-
tice was given of this Bill in the regular manner, and it
proceeded as far as this, the last stage, without any
opposition. No petition was presented against it, with
the exception of that presented by the Ron. Member for
Finsbury. He did think that the town council of Stockport
had been harshly used in this matter. Ho felt bound
to divide the Ileum, on this question.
Mr. DUNCOMBE Aid, that one of the Hon. Meru-
••• •' " ' 3 -----"ted a neti-

..n. am- cnocKporc (ivir. saarsiano) utsu pi 0...--.
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I(ion, signed by between 5,000 and 6,0 N ratepayers of
the borough, against the Bill.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, when
there appeared
For the motiot
Against It
Azainst the Bill being' brought iR —8
METROPOLITAN SEWAGE MANURE BILL.
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Ihe report anti further consideration r of this Bill was
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The British Guarantee Association Bill and the Sligo
and Shannon Railway Bill were read a third time and
passed.
TENANT COMPENSATION.

Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition from a
large body of the inhabitants of Castlereagh, praying
the House to take steps to provide a permanent measure for
providing compensation to tenants, after having regularly
paid their rent, and were about.to be discharged from their
farms, such compensation to he adequate to the out-
lay made by the tenant whilst in occupation.
Mr. HUDSON presented a petition from Sunderland
against the union of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor.
CONSTITUTION OF THE CHANNEL ISLANDS.
Mr. CHRISTIE presented a petition from a gentle-
man of the name of Duppa, residing in Jersey, praying
for an extension of the British Constitution to Jersey,
and the other Channel islands.
IRISH LANDLORD AND TENANTS BILL.

Mr. S. CRAWFORD gave notice that on Monday
next he should put a question to the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government respecting the Bills now
lying on the table for the direction of the Irish tenantry,
and that he should also at the same time ask whether
it was the intention of Government to issue any corn-
mission on that subject during the recess.