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GRAND JUNCTION RAILWAY.

Mr. GREENE moved that leave be given to read the
Grand Junction Railway (Showhill and Portobello Branch)
Bill a second time on Thursday, the 21st May, although no
breviate shall have been laid on the table, such Bill having
been separated from the Grand Junction Railway (Huyton
and Aston and other Branches) Bill, on the recommendation
of the Classification Committee, and the breviate of the
whole having been already laid on the table of the House.
The Hon. Gentleman also moved that the order made on the
16th day of March, for referring the Tring, Reading, and
Basingstoke (Tring to Saunderton) Railway Bill to the Com-
mittee of Selection, be read ; that the said order be dis-
charged ; that the said Bill be withdrawn.—The motions
were agreed to.
DISTRESS IN IRELAND.
On the motion that the orders of the day be read,
Mr. P. SCROPE wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet
whether the attention of the Government had been called to
the distress which existed in Mallow, i❑ the county of Cork ?
It appeared that out of a population of twelve thousand per-
sons, six thousand persons were wholly destitute of food.
He wished to know whether the Government were about to
adopt a similar precedent to that set some years ago in the
western districts of Scotland, when a scarcity was existing
in that district? The Government then taxed the landed
proprietors to the amount of fourteen per cent. upon their
holdings, in order to make a relief fund.
Sir J. GRAHAM said his attention had not been called
to Mallow. There was a committee sitting in Dublin
which had full power, upon proper application, to afford such
assistance as was in the power of the Government. With
reference to the second part of the Hon. Member's question,
whether it was the intention of the Government to adopt the
precedent set them in Scotland, he had only to say that it was
not, in the present year, and under the present circumstances
of Ireland, the intention of the Government to propose a land-
tax to meet the present distress. What might be the future
policy of the Government regarding the subject he was not
prepared to say.
LACE FACTORIES BILL.

Mr. GISBORNE said that he was of opinion that the Lace
Factories Bill, which stood first on the orders of the day for
a second reading, should be allowed to pass sub silentio,
and that the discussion and division on the question should
take place on the motion that the House go into Com-
mittee.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said hewould most cheerfully assent
to such an arrangement, as he had been entrusted with the
care of the Bill, and it was his duty to forward it in every
possible stage.
Sir J. GRAHAM said he could not be a party to any such
arrangement, for he felt so strongly impressed with the
feeling that any legislative interference with the subject of
lace manufactories would have 'the worst possible effect ;Tif,
therefore, the Hon. Member would proceed with his Bill, he
would ask the indulgence of the House whilst he would
shortly state his opinions upon the subject.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. GISBORNE then v,ithdrew his motion.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented several numerously signed
petitions from Nottingham in favour of the Lace Factories
Bill.

Lord J. MANNERS presented several similar petitions,
signed by several thousand persons.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that, in moving the second
reading of the Bill now before the House, he should state his
opinion that it was imperatively necessary, if they regarded
either the moral or the social comfort of those poor children
employed in the manufacture of lace in this country, that
some regislative interference should take place in the conduct
of the lace manufacturers. He had nearly the unanimous
assent of the operative and the master manufacturer in
favour of the Bill, and the question did not stand in the
• same position as the factory question, in consequence of
their having been no legislation on the subject, and the
question for the House to decide whether there should be
any interference or not in the lace manufacturers. He was
aware that some persons considered that the Bill ought to be
restricted entirely to children—that others considered it did
not go far enough, while others did not approve of the
principle of the Bill. Now what was the state of the
factory trade in the country? The House should be aware
in the first place, that these steam engines ran, through
the whole week, from twelve o'clock on Sunday
night to twelve o'clock on Silturday night, without
intermission, and that this could not be carried
on without the assistance of children. Children from
the ages of six to eight years were obliged to remain up all
night, and many of these poor children never saw their bed.
They lay upon the floor of the factory, during the intervals
they might be able to snatch for rest, and they
were momentarily roused up to pursue the
stern labours imposed upon them. Could the House
suppose that children so brought up were reared as they
ought to be? What was the evidence of Mr. Saunders, the
intelligent inspector of manufactories, upon the subject ?
He says that legislation was not only passible, but most
necessary. Consumption and fever were the concomitant
results of the system, which also induced _ the
most immoral effects in the children themselves.He confessed that there was this principle in his Bill, that it
interfered with adult labour ; but, in point of fact, the Right
Hon. Baronet also interfered with adult labour in his Bill,
and the only difference Between them was, that [he (Mr.
Duncombe) did so in exceptions, by preventing labour after
ten o'clock, while the Right Hon. Baronet did it by a
species of inference. They were often accustomed to
hear that there should be no interference between
the manufacturer and the operative, and they were assurild
that if they did not interfere manufactures would flourish,'
and the social condition of the workers be greatly improved.
They saw this result in the lace factories ; there there was
no interference between the master and the worker, and what
was the consequence? That there was disease and discontent, -
and immorality, rife amougst them—that as a class they were
most degraded, that as operatives they were the most depressed
of all those engaged in factory labour. He appealed to the
Right Hon. Baronet not to reject the second reading of this
Bill ; unless, indeed, his objection were to the principle of
interference with the manufacturer. There was one pecu.
Rarity attached to this measure, viz., that it had received
the assent of at least four-fifths of the proprietors of lace
works ; and he might also say the consent of all the workers
employd. He implored the House to consent to the second
reading of a measure which had been already sanctioned by
the very persons who were most interested in it. He did
hope and trust that the House would not disappoint these
humane and just expectations. He moved that this Bill be
read a second time.

The question having been put,
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the Hon. Member who had
just moved the second reading of this Bill had made a forcible
appeal to him not to resist that second reading. lie told the
House that the measure was supported by four-fifths of the
master employers in the trade, and that, with scarcely an
exception, the operatives had declared in its favour. He did
not know the sources whence the Hon. Member had received
that information, probably from a different quarter than he
himself had, for as tar as he could judge the opinions of the
master were entirely opposed to the Hon. Member for Fing-
bury. With respect to the measure itself he acknowledged
that first impressions were in favour of restricting the hours
of labour, but then it was for the Legislature to consider
whether this restriction would be followed by the effect so
ardently desired by the lion Member for Finsbury, and by
other lion. Members. They had to consider well whether
the benefits arising from shortened hours of labour, would
not be more than counter-balanced by the miseries
arising from reduced wages. This question, however, was
by no means a new one. It had been often before the.
House, and the dangers 9f any legislation of this character
had been often strongly dwelt upon. in the consideration
which had been given to this subject it V7ABaltioestes
that so important a branch of manufactures
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RAILWAY COMMITTEE&
(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.
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The Committee met this day-
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lace, chairman.
Mr. TALBOT, Q.C., said, ho had the pleasure of handing in the
traffic tables of the Eastern Counties scheme, as ordered by their
Lordships. lie would also hand a copy to his Learned Friend (Mr.
Sergeant Wrangham), whom he had no doulit would find them very
light and agreeable reading.—(Laughter.) At the same time he could
not avoid ying, tha those li3 were more i detail than tho.hi
given by hsisa Learnedt
Friend, and he should feeln obliged if he would
furnish similar details.
Mr. Sergeant WRANGIIADI would have no objection to give the de-
tailed tables wished for by his Learned Friend. lie would take that
opportunity of putting a question to his Learned Friend, which, if
answered, would very materially aid the present investigation. lie
wished to know what lisle it was his Learned Friend relied on as the
competing line to the London and York ? Their Lordships would see
that there were several Bills in the group which had nothing to do
with the through communication from London to York. He appre-
hended it would he desirable for all parties, more especially for their
Lordships, to know what was meant to be the competing system with
London and York. The latter line speaks for itself, and therefore
what he wanted to learn was, what was the combination of lines, or
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competing trunk lines together. On the one hand w
the London and York line; and then they took th
Tottenham and Farringdon-street Extension, the Cambridg
and Lincoln, and that portion of the Direct Northern which forme
the antagonist system to the London and York. Their Lordship
would find it stated, in the first page of their report, " That the
Committee, therefore, proceeded first to hear the case of the London
and York Company, which proposes a new and integral line from
London to York, and next those of the Cambridge and Lincoln, the
Direct Northern, and the Tottenham and Farringdon-street Eaten-
ston lines, which, together with the Eastern Counties' scheme, were
recommended for this purpose by the Board of Trade." That was
the course which they took ; but it was not because they
took that course that he asked his Learned Friend
the question which he had put to him, but he did so because of the
obvious convenience which it would be to the Committee, in the first
place, as well as to those whom he had the honour to represent, that
they might know the case which they would have to meet and so
direct their examinations—for example the re-examination of Mr..
Cubitt, and the examination of the other engineers. He hoped his
Learned Friend would not object to answer the question. The traffic
tables just handed in referred to the Eastern Counties Railway ex-
tension from Cambridge to Mllford, and from March to Lincoln.
Now, he wished to know if the line from March to Lincoln was to be
set up also as part of the scheme?.
Earl LOVELACE—If we can have the answer in a few words it
would be very desirable, but if it is to involve a long speech we
should have two opening speeches, which we certainly do not require.
Mr. TALBOT said he feared that if he attempted to answer the
questions it would involve going into the whole case. Ile should have
to explain how his lines became competing with the London and
York.

Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM only wanted to know which were the
competing lines.

Mr. TALBOT said that his brief answer to that question was, that
he appeared there in support of the Bills which they had laid on the
table.

After some further discussion on this point, Mt. Cubitt WAS Called
and cross-ezainined by Mr. TALBOT at great length.

HOU SE OF COMMONS.
GROUP X.

The Committee met to-day at twelve o'clock, in Room No. I
(House of Commons) ; present, Mr. Deedes (ciTairman). Mr. Ark-
wright, Mr. Farnham, Mr. Stanley, and Mr. Vivian, and proceeded
with the

GLASGOW, AIRDRXE, AND IVIONXMANDS

JUNCTION.

Mr. AUSTIN stated the case for the promoters of this railwaY,
which is to commence at a point to the east of the High-street of
Glasgow, on or near the site of the College-Beildinge, and joining the
Airdrie and Bathgate Junction, at Airdrie. The length of the main
line is ten miles five furlongs and a half. There will be a branch of
two miles six furlongs and nine chains, which will join the Clydesdale
Junction, near Rutherglen, by which the line would be connected,
through the Pollee and Govan and other railways, with the harbour
of Glasgow. Another branell, seven miles in length, would termi-
nate in Mile-End, a very populous manufacturing district of aulsrow-
From Coatbridge another breech will join the Wishaw and Coltnest
Railway, which intersects the extensive upper coal fields .01
Lanarkshire. The importance of the line required little se-
gument. The population of Glasgow is 340,050, and increas-
ing in a great ratio, and the town is known to be not only
engaged most extensively in manufactures, but also a ship•
ping port of superior consequence. The owners of minerals
in Lanarkshire, as well as the inhabitants of Glasgow, were greatly
Interested in having the meansef delivering the vast quantity of coals
consumed there at the most convenient points, and at the cheapest
rates. By the main line the whole of the eastern parts of the city,
and by the branch to Mile-End two-thirds of the factories and public
works, would be supplied with coals at a less cost, and with greater
regularity than at present.' This district of Glasgow, which is chiefly
occupied by the labouring classes, is at present supplied with goals
from distant pits, by cartage, at an expensive rate, or from the depiAS
of certain railways. The railway will go near the agricultural
bazaar and the cattle market, which is regarded as a great
advantage to all parties. The Learned Gentleman commented at
considerable length upon various other direct and collateral
advantages of the line, on which a very great amount
of passenger traffic is anticipated. The district is at
present almost destitute of railway communication. Almost
all the proprietors on the line were favourable to, it, and there were
no engineering difficulties, no tunnels, and no expensive works. He
observed that there were two lines competing with this, and re-
ferred to the same Committee—the Caledonian (Dundyvan Branch)
and the Caledonian (Glasgow, Garnkirk, and Coatbridge Branches).
The Learned Gentleman went into a detailed comparison of the
merits of the three lines, contrasting strongly the demerits of the
other two with the excellencies of this. The principal points were,
that the Dundyvan Branch would pass through the country
in a way injurious to the landed proprietors, without giving
the same advantages as the present undertaking 31'013,;7
give to the factories, public works, and the owners of minerals
the Dundyvan Branch having also:engineering disadvantageS•
and not supplying the population of Glasgow with coal to the eagle
extent, or at the same low eost. The Glasgow, Garnkirk, and Coat
bridge branches would make the distance between Glasgow and
Airdrie twelve miles instead of ten and a half, as by the line nor
before the Committee. Moreover, the Caledonian Company, by ob.
tamping the branches applild for in opposition to this line, would b 0
put in possession of an injurious monopoly.
Mr. 31`.NEIL (who was with Mr. Austin) examined Mr. Hankie,
the provost of the suburban borough of Glasgow, called the Calton:
who gave evidence strongly in favour of this project, as compare'
with its competitors.
Mr. Wanktoae, who appeared for the Dundyvan branch, and fer
certain petitions, cross-examined the witness with a view to elicit
that the parts of Glasgow to be accommodated by his clients were
more important than tile eastern parts of the city.

GROUP XIII.
This Committee met to-day at 12 o'clock, Sir William Clay in tho
chair. Other Members tpresent, Earl Jermyn, Mr. P. Ainsworth,
and Mr. Cartels.

GLASGOW, DUMPRXES, AND CARZXsrat.
The further consideration of the clauses of this Bill was resumed'
Evidence having been tendered as to the!present rate of tolls on the
Ayrshire and Glasgow line, the clauses of the Dumfries line relating
thereto, as well as the others which are unopposed, were read
severally agreed to.
;The whole Bill, with the exception of the clauses relating to the
branches with which the Caledonia Extension competes to a certain .
extent, having been disposed of, the Committee resumed the Furth"
consideration of the

NORTH BRITISH CARLISLE EXTENSIOS•
Mr. John Lang, of Hawick, examined— Was a partner in the BIT
of Dixon and Lang, which employed from 900 to 1,000 persons.
I thought the proposed line would be of great benefit to the town of
Hawick. One of the principal advantages would be a direct coining.
nication with Liverpool. A considerable amount of wool wall
present brought from Liverpool, and the quantity from that
quarter was increasing. The wool so obtained was Australian 8T:
American. He had no doubt if the present line was forwf:,
that port In course of time would become the great mart for Vl's'
wool. Last autumn he bought 500 bales of wool, which took ti
months before they reached Hawick. They came In a sailing vessel
to Annan. He got also dye stuffs and ells from Liverpool, and ire"'
Kendal. Quick dispatch was important for the fancy trade in which
Hawick was principally engaged, and the present line would do Mel
to forward that end. Coals at present were brought from Canobio tk,
Hawick by carts. They cost 235. 6d. a ton. The consumption Of
coal increased last year about twenty-five per cent., and
would greatly increase if a railway communication were
formed with the Canobie coal-fields. His firm last year
consumed about 500 tons; but if coals were cheapened, steam power
in many instances would be substituted for water power. Building
materials were also very dear, slates for instance were brought frov2
Annan by carts, a distance of 43 miles. Some American timber and
bricks were also brought from Annan. Bricks were also brought
from Leith. The bricks he referred to were fine bricks for flues, as
the houses were built of stone. Their iron castings for machinery
were brought from Carlisle. The railway would be a great benefit in
bringing building materials from the south. Nearly 857
and
wool were consumed in Hawick last year, to make up. Witness
Mr. Wilson met the principal manufacturers on the subject, and fr°,lu.
what transpired, as well as his knowledge of the trade of the tolvh.".
considered the amount stated correct. a
Cross-examined by Mr. RICKARDS —The:Arm of which he low
ineuutS_; member, had opened a house in Glasgow, but the other
wet,
turers believed had not. The most of the goods manufactured
tons of
went northwards ; a great amount to Glasgow. The principal trade
of the town was hosiery, tweeds, and shawls. He could not tell the
proportion of the manufactured goods that went to London. The
arriage of bale goods from Hawick to London was from 4/, to
The charge for cartage from Ilawick to Leith was 1/. 10s.

GROUP XX.
This Committee met to-day at the usual hour; Mr. Botherott
the chair.

LONDON, HOUNSLOW, AND WESTSraff•
On the assembling of the Committee the case on behalf of this line
was proceeded with. The Bill is opposed by the Great Western
Company.
Mr. Cocanuart opened the case for the promoters. The line, he
said, which was proposed to be constructed was 16 miles in leng;
being from the west end of the metropolis through Houma°ir _
Staines, in order to accommodate the large and growing population
in that quarter. The traffic was at present enormous, being, be be-
lieved, greater than that en any thoroughfare out of London, and he
had no doubt the line when constructed would yield a handsome divi-
dend on the capital embarked. The Learned Gentleman having
gone through the extent of the hue in explanation of the population,
traffic, &c., that might be expected, and having detailed the one'
neering pecallarties of the line, which he represented to be generalli
favourable, proceeded to call his witnesses.
Mr. Ashworth, of Isleworth, was examined as to the defective any
commodation given to the inhabitants of his neighbourhood by the
present conveyances, and to the necessity there existed for the rail-
way. The feeling represented to be very strong in favour of the
present scheme.

GROUP LINT.
This Committee re-assembled to-day at the usual hour. I'resent'
Mr. Bannerman (chairman), and the other Members.

MIDLAND (LEICESTER. AND SWANNXNG
TON ALTERATION AND DEANCIIVS)'
Mr. Joseph. Cubitt, engineer, examined by Mr. WADDINGTON,
the part of the petitioners—Was an engineer of great experiencei re.
well acquainted with the proposed line before the Comm
That line went through the properties of Mr. Harris and Mr. Strettwi
in a circuitous direction. He did not think it was the best line Oa
could be selected for the proposed junction with the Midland liotoe.
Had seen the plans and sections of another line, which proPOed re
pass nearer the town of Leicester, which was more direct, not 111° a
expensive, and traversed property not so likely to be Injured 13Y,ild
railway as the property through which the present line
pass. There were no engineering difficulties in the line which ."
preferred. The gradients on the longer line were, no doubt more
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favourable. Had seen the estimate of the other line, and considered
it reasonable and sufficient. He was aware that it was proposed to
take the shorter line on a timber viaduct, and, in his judgment,
was no danger in that mode of constructing a railway. Thu;i.
mainder of this witness's evidence was In corroboration of the
dence on the part ofthe petitioners.

The Committee decided upon hearing no further evidence.
Pad of
Mr. WADDINGTON then addressed the Committee on the
the petitioners, and contended that a careful examination of ,‘1,;5
evidence must convince the Committee the petitions of did
clients were founded in justice, and that the line before them `
commit a wanton injury on the residential property through w.lux,
it passed, without any commensurate public advantage• his °chat
were determined to resist this line to the last, from a conviction
Ttc_
they had been most cruelly treated by the neg
ho
had been appointed to Inform thein of the proposedof railway, though
blameany
they acquitted the Chairman and DoptitY-Chairmu
whatever.
motors of the 13111, declined
Mr. lliLurattio, on the part of the Pre Wee had decided on not
the Committed
offering any observations, as ligencoof those
hearing further evidence.
The loom was then cleared, and on our ro-admission
the Bill was proved
decided the preamble of
then gone
through seriolim.
The clauses or <he Bill were
The CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee had unauhnouslY

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OF CHILD MURDER AT NEWCASTI.E.—T
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lilaAkett-street, in that town, when Mr. Carr, the sureon who had
made a post inortem examination of the body, gave evidence widenn left no doubt on the minds of the Jury of the child having beell.rQ.
alive. After a brief deliberation, they returned a verdict of "
murder against the mother, Isabella Curry," who was
committed on the coroner's warrant for trial at the ensuing as'iTho
Immediately after the i• ino of tipa inquest on Friday, mother, Curry, was taken into t d
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On the 14th inst., at Exetßeri,
Nth inst
3/eller, of a daughter.
On is,
of a sort.
On the AtThife Blady of the Rev. Philip Lew
in Endsleigh-street, Tavistock-square, Mrs.
On the 18th inst., in St. James's-square, Lady Alfred ElerveY, of
a son.
On the 18th inst., at the Auheries, the lady of Caledon Alexander'
Esq., of a daughter.
On the 18th inst., Mrs. John White, of Storey's -gate, Great George-
street, Westminster, of a son.
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On the 18th inst., in the Albion-road, Stoke Newington '
Richard Ireathfleld, of a daughter.
141b°L On the 18th inst., at Lymington, Hants, the lady of W.
Agar, Esq., of Elm Lodge, of a slaughter. ter,
On the 18th jest, the lady of John Baring, Esq., of a daub
which lived only a few hours.

MARRIED. geolt,
On tho 14th inst., at the parish church, Hove, Samuel King
Esq., to Georgina, fourth daughter of Dr. Bodley, of Merton 11°—
Furze-hill, Brighton.

DIED.

On the 16th ult., at Vienna, Mrs. Cl•ompten, aged 22.
On the 12th inst., at Swansea, Margaretta El izabeth, oldest
daughter of J. Jackson Price, Esq.
On the 15th inst., James Browning, Esq., Connaught-terrace'
Edgeware-road, aged 80.
On the 16th Inst., at Paris, Elizabeth, wife of William Lock,
late of Norbury-park, Surrey.
the Wife
On the Ilith inst., In Albany-street, Regent's.park, Sarah,
of Richard Hatton, Esq. - gut c't
)On the 16th Inst., at Thistle-grove, Brcmpton, Emily, 0t
daughter of Mr. Stones, of Gelder square, aged 22.
On the 16th inst., Jonathan Robinson, Esq., of Spring Bank, Stc'el'-
port.
On the 16th inst., Mrs. Sarah Ileathfield, of Cottage-grove, 3file-
end-road.
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On the 17th inst., at Rushmore, Suffolk, Eliza, the wife
Wratislaw, Esq.

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