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opinion being given, and would enable Government to act with
confidence. The three gentlemen selected with that view were
to follow the instructions given to them, and they had been
requested to consider how far practicable, and if practicable,
how far it would be advisable to apply Dr. Reid's system of
ventilation te the New Ileuses of Parliament, and to all the
ti
subordinate offises. Also whether the application of the
tem slti&t! be restriteed to the New Houses of Parliament
en or to and whether it e.otricl Ire
eeventege to type, the system to d.fferent eortior s of the
bailing se; aratel) and independently. The Government were
also anxious to ascertain how far Dr. Reid's system was com-
patible with the rend ring the building fire-proof. These
gentlemen had, lastly, been desired, according to the opinions
they formed on these points, to report how far such plans of
the building as were necessary for Dr. Reid had been fur-
nished to him, and whether further information would be re-
quisie, and to what extent, and in what manner. The
gentlemen selected were Mr. Hardwicke, a gentleman well
known as an architect, who had constructed the new buildings.
in Lincoln's Inn ; Professor Graham, a professor of chemistry
in tee London University ; and Mr. George Stephenson, who
was known as an engineer of great experience, andB who
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paid great attention to the ventilation of. mines,
fie st plush the House might ohject to this coarse, but
assure their Lordships that be had not come to_
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that the inquiry need not take up nmerteh.tthan a very few days,
'have been comma-
opinion of these gentlemen shou
Government, if it should
Melted to her Majesty's
be necessary to take such a course as would in-
terfere with the arrangement already existing between
the Government and Dr. Reid, or it those gentlemen should
prescribe a course in any way at variance with the plans already
existing, it would be right that the Government, before any
steps were taken in the matter, should state their intentions to
Parliament, to give an opportunity to Noble Lords and Hon.
Members of making any remarks they might think fit.
He thought that it was better that he should fortify himself
with the opinions of the gentlemen he had mentioned, before
coming down to the House to propose that they should go on
at all hazards and risks, or relieve the burden from one or other
of the gentlemen through whose misapprehensions these delays
were cceasioned.
Lord BROUGHAM said that no man in that House could
doubt that the Noble Lord had given net only a clear and satis-
: factory explaration, but that he had adopted the very best
course he could under the circumstances. The inquiry was
now brought within a reasonable coinpa-s, and he thought
the course proposed by the Noble Lord the very best that could
be adopted. Their Lordships at present suffered most severely
under the processes of Dr. Reid—(Laughter)—he meant under
the processes of ventilation brought into use by that gentle-
man ; and for himself he could only say that, sitting there from
ten o'clock in the morning until five at night, he never suffered
more from cold in his lite than he did while attending to his
legal duties. On that day he had suffered most severely.
What the reason was he could not say ; whether it was that
additional fuel had been put pa—(Laughter)—or whether there
had been a complete stoppage of external air—or perhaps it
might have arisen from tire want of their Lordships' presence.
At all events, he could not say from what particular cause the
cold had arisen, but cold it certainly had been. He could
assure the House that the Noble Marquis had not exaggerated
when he had spokeu of the severe services of the law Lords.
It was diametrically opposed to the fact that they could not get
into the House within a short period. for the whole evidence
before the Committee up-stairs proved that they might have
got into their new House in eight or ten months at the
furtherest. He did not mean that they were to wait until
every nook, and cranny, and crevice, and rat-hole in the House
was ventilated.— (Laughter.) He thought that the plan of
ventilation under which he had suffered that morning was the
most xtravaeant principle that was ever brought before the
notice of Parliament. He trusted that the inquiry would go
on, and he was sure that no better men could be chosen than
the men named by the Noble Lord. He hoped he should not
be considered as detracting from the opinion of the Committee
if he added that some of the questions submitted to them
answered themselves. There was no difficulty whatever in
coming to a conclusion, and that before many days. He took
no part with either of the individuals implicated in this quarrel,
but he considered it was their bounden duty to see that ecr
squabble should interfere so as to detract from the progress of
this public work. lie had heard the other day, when up-
stairs. with the greattet indignation. that the works had been
suspended for several month., in consequence of the disputes
between the two pa.rtie-a Such a state of things should be put
an and te.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord t. P iW,LL considered the Noble and Learned Lord
bad been too severe in the speech which he had just made. He
would not enter into the controversy between Mr. Barry and
Dr. Reid. He would throw no blame on Mr. Barry. who might
have conducted the works with perfect skill and the greatest
care, but he must say that the Noble and Learned Lord was
prejudiced in the case. The fact was, the ventilation was per-
fectiy successful. They had only to look to the [louse of
Commons, where this ventilation had been most successful;
both in respect to the temperature, heat, and air, it was the best
place of legislature ever built. He hoped that the sneers of
the Noble and Learned Lord would not be allowed to prejudice
Dr. Reid. He admitted at the same time that while the ven-
tila,ion of the House of Commons had been perfectly successful,
the ventilation of their Lordships' House had been unsuccessful.
At one time the. were in Greenland, at another in Bencoolen.
Noble Lords who came there from five to seven to listen to
amusing speeches, such as they had heard, could not speak of
the matter as he did, who sat there on Scotch appeals often
for six hours in the early part of the day. Therefore he hoped
that they would have some comeaesion on them, and that no
relaxation would be made in their efforts in order to get the
new chambers.
Lord RED ESDALE hoped that, though they admitted the
importance of getting the House ready as soon as possible, they
should take care not to manage matters as they had hitherto
been done. The House of Commons had only to say "We
want a certain number of committee-rooms by a certain day."
and it was done directly. Now these committee-rooms were
not in a state of greater forwardness, when that order
was issued, than their Lordships' House. In fact their House
was now in such a state that it only required the completion of
the ventilating apparatus ; for the flooring and ceiling and the
four walls had been finished ; and with regard to the veotila •
tion, he believed that there were two chambers for that pur-
' pose, ono beneath the flooring of the lion.e and the other over
' the roof, and the apparatus required nothing more now than a
permanent fitting-up. If those fittings-up should b - made in
one of the chambers he had mentioned, and should be found
not to answer, then the only inconvenience that could arise
was the removing of those fittings from one of the chambers
that he had mentioned to the other. If, therefore, their
!Lordships did not come to some resolution now upon the sub-
ject, they need not expect to get into their House before the
' next two years.
On the motion of the Earl of ELLENBOROUGH,
several Bills were advanced a stage, and the House adjourned.

HOUSE OF 1:03ail1OAS, April 24.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
GLASGOW HARBOUR RAILWAY.

The report on the Glasgow Harbour Grand Junction Rail-
way Terminus was brought up, the amendments and altera-
tions agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be engro..ssed,
SECOND READINGS. _ _ _

The following Bills were read a second time, and ordered to
be committed, viz.:—Stockport Improvement, Toxteth Park
Improvement, and the Allhallows Tithes.
The Bolton Waterworks Bill was read a third time and
passed.
Mr. GREENE moved, that in consequence of the agents for
the Bill not having obtained the breviate in time to give an
earlier notice of the second reading, the Stockport Improve-
ment Bill be permitted to be read a second time this day, not-
withstanding the time prescribed by the sessional order had es,-
pired,—The motion was agreed to.
Mr. SPOONER moved that the Glasgow Harbour Grand
Junction Railway Terminus Bill, of which notice of report
had been given for this day, be reported this day, notwith-
standing the resolution of the House of the 7th day of April.—

Agreed to.
Mr. T. EGERTON moved that the petitions of James Lock
and the Mersey and Irwell Navigation Company (presented
22d April), praying for leave to withdraw their former peti-
tions agiuns! the Warrington Waterworks Bill, be read ; and
that the Bill be treated as an unopposed Bill, and referred to
Alr. Greene and the Members ordered to prepare and bring in
the Bill.—The motion was agreed to.
Viscount SAN DON moved that it be an instruction to the
Committee of Selection, that the Liverpool Sanatory Regula-
tions Bill, the Liverpool Paving, Sewering, and Watering Bill,

th.. Liverpool Water Bill, the Liverpool and Harrington Water-
works Bill, and the Toxteth Park Improvement Bill, be re-
ferred to the same Committee.—The motion was also agreed to.
Mr. ESTCOURT moved that it be an instruction to the
Committee of Selection to refer the Bristol Waterworks and
Sewerage 13111 to the Committee to which the Bristol Water-
works Bill stands referred.—Agreed to.
CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL.
A petition was presented from the Roman Catholic inhabi-
tants of Brighton in favour of the Roman Catholic Relief Bill.
SMALL TEN EME 4TS.
Petitions were also presented from places in Lincolnshire
and Yorkshire, praying the Howe to order the six-pound
tenements to to rated to the landlord and not to the tenant.
Ordered to be laid on the table.
HREWSBURY AND BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY.
Mr. SPOONER presented a petition from Birmingham
against the proposed line of railway, and against the Beltast
Gas and_ Improvement Bills.

NOkTrt STAFFORDSHIRE RAILWAY.
Mr. ENTWISLE presented a petition from Manchester in
favour of this line of railway.
FISEIERIE
Captain PECHELL begged to asS.
k a question of the Vice..
President of the Board of Trade.t
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statedAfi that
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and the Government at that time
the French authorities were about to adopth
a
regulations. He had since learned that such
done ; and his question was, whether the collefitors of Customs
had been furnished with a copy of the orstonnances of the
French Chamber, as such a proeeeding would be extremely
useful, so that parties might know under what laws they were
acting ?
Sir G, CLERK said that the Government had received
no official information on the subject, but that a copy of the
ordonnances would be furnished as sever as they were obtained.
Mr. FELLOWES presented al petitions from the
parish of Huntingdon against their being compelled
antod paypeti for
the erection of county lnatic asylums ; -
tions praying that the Government would take into its
consideration the expeciency of passing a law, to the effect
that there should be no assessments upon houses not exceeding
'the annual rent of 51. ; and petitions from Suffolk and Hunt-
ingdon, praying that the House would not sanction a union
between the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor.
POOR REMOVAL BILL.
Mr. G. BAGLEY presented a petition from the inhabi-
tants of a parish in the county of Dorset against several of the
provisions of the Poor Removal Bill, and also a petition from
Swanage, in the county of Dorset, signrd by a large number of
the clergy of the Established Church there, and also by macy
Dissenters of different persuasions, praying that the House
would take measures for the better ob ervan.!e of the Sabbath
in that town, by restricting the sale of spirituous liquors on that
day.

BRIDPORT ELECTION.
Mr. Bingham Escott, Lord DAlmeny, Mr. Charles Wood,
Lord Claude Hamilton, and Sir W. Somerville, were sworn in
to try the merits of the Bridport election.
Mr. B. COCHRANE sail that he would make a few ob-
servations to the House relative to the Committee which was
to meet to-morrow morning—not in the expectation that the
House would deviate in any way from the rules laid down—not
so much, he said, from any regard to his own personal
interest, but f, om a desire to protect the interests
of other Hon. Members who must be placed under similar
circumstances with himself, and who must suffer (and be said
it with all respect) from the wor4ing of this Act, and therefore
as it must be the wish of the House to do justice to the indivi-
dual Members who composed it, as,it m6st be their ansiious
desire to give a fair judgment on a question of this nature, be
trusted that they would permit him to occupy their time for a
nary limited period. By the recent measure which had ben
brought in by the Right Hon. Gentleman at the head
of the Government for the suppression of bribery, it was
rnacted in one of the
,Clahes that in all cases of controverted
elaptious all the parties comp)ainintof such flefitOu or return