The Sun.
London, England, 1848-06-16 00:00:00

MINORITY-NOES, 129.

PUBLIC HEALTH BILL.—FURTHER PROCEEDING
ON FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF REPORT.
Amendment proposed, in page 14, line 23, to leave out
from the words " entitled to vote," to the end of line 33 :
Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand
part of the Question." The House divided :
MAJORITY—AYES, 46.
Anson, Colonel Ilayter, W. G. Parker, John
Armstrong, R. B. Henley, J. W. Raphael, Alexander
Arundel, Earl of llobhouse, Sir John Romilly, Sir John
Baines, M. 'l'. lloward, C. W. Russell, Lord John
Bellew, R. M. Jervis, Sir John Russell, F. C.
Bernal, Ralph Labouchere, Henry Shen, ii. L.
Christy, Samuel Lacy, 11. C. Somerville. Sir W.
Cowper, W. F. Lascelles, W. S. Spooner, Richard
Cubittt, William Lewis, George C. Turner, Edmund
Divett, E. Mackinnon, W. A. Turner, G. J.
Drummond, Henry Maher, N. _ _ Wood, Sir Charles
Elliot, J. E. Masterman, John Wyld, Janes
Forster, Matthew Maule, Fox
Grey, Ralph W. Mitchell, A. T. TELLEAS.
Ilanmer, Sir,J. Morpeth, Viscount Tanta.. IL
liawes, B. Newdegate, N. LIM, L.rd Marcus
Hay, Lord John O'Brien, John

MINORITY-NOES, 18.
Fox, W. J. Stuart, Lord D.
Hall, Sir Benjamin Thompson, Colonel
Henry, Alexander Thornely, Thomas
Pearson, Charles Urquhart, David
perfect, Robert TELLERS.
Salwey, Colonel Ilume, Joseph
Pechell,Captain

Aglionby, 11. A.
Clay, Sir W.
Clay, James;
Cobden, It.
Crawford, W. S.
D'Eyncourt, T.
Evans, John

BOROUGH ELECTIONS (No. 2) BILL.
(IN THE COMMITTEE.)
First Clause:—Motion made, and Question proposed,
"That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill." The
Committee divided :
MAJORITY—AYES, 108.
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Adair, R. Shafto Hawes, Benjamin Raphael, Alexander
Aglionby, H. A. Ilayter, W. G. Ileynoldi, Jonh
Anson, Colonel Henry, Alexander Ricardo, Osman
Armstrong, Sir A. Heywood, James Rich, henry
Armstrong, R. B. Hill, Lord M. Robartes, T.:J.
Bagshaw, John Hindley, Charles Roche, E. B.
Bellew, K. M. Holland, Robert Romaly, Sir John
Birch, Sir Thomas Howard, C. IV. Russell, Lord J.
Bovring, Dr. Howard, Sir R. Russell, F. C. H.
Boyle, Colonel Hume, Joseph Satwo', Colonel
Brutherton, Joseph Jervis, Sir John Scholefield, William
Buller, Charles King, Peter John Seymer, H. K.
Bunbury, E. IL Lewis, G. C. Simeon, John
Campbell, W. F. Littleton, E. R. Somerville, Sir W.
Carew, W. P. M'Gregor, John Stansfield, W. R.
Clay, James Maher, N. Strickland, Sir G.
Clifford, Henry M. Mahon, O'Gorman Sullivan, Michael
Craig, W. G. Mangles, R. D. Talbot, C. It.
Crawford, W. S. Marshall, William Talfourd, Sergeant
Davie, Sir Henry Matheson, Colonel Thompson, Colonel
Divett, Edward Maine, Fox Thornely, T.
Duncan, George 3lelgund, Viscount: Tolleniache, F. J.
Dundas, Admiral Milner, W. M. Towneley, Charles
Ebrington, Lord Mitchell, T. A. Townshend, Captain
Ellice, Edward Monsell, William Trelawny, J. S.
Elliot, John E. Morpeth, Viscount Tufnell, 11.
Estcourt, J. B. B. Mostyn, E. M. L. Tivian, J. H.
Fordyce, A. D. Mulgrave, Earl Willcox, Brodie
Fox, W. J. Ogle, S. C. Wilson, James .
Freestun, Colonel Paget, Lord A. Wilson, Matthew
Glyn, George Carr Palmer, Boundell Wood, Sir Charles
Granger, T. C. Parker, John Wood, W. P.
Greene, Thomas Pearson, Charles Wyld, James
Grey, Sir George Pechell, Captain Wyvill, Marmaduke
Grosvenor, Lord R. Perfect, Robert TELLERS.
Hall, Sir B. Pigott, Francis Hanmer, Sir J.
Bally burton, Lord Pinney, William Baines, M. T.

MINORITY-NOES, 39.
Anstey, T. C. Edwards, Henry Newdegate, C. N.
Archdall, Captain Godson,lß. Pakington, Sir J. S.
Baring, Thomas Goring, C. Palmer, Robert
Barrington, Viscount Grogan, E. Rolleston, Colonel
Benbow, John Gwyn, Vowel Sibthorp, Colonel
lieresford, William Hall, Cohniel Sinyth, J. G.
Bourke, Richard S. Heneage, G. 11. Spooner, Richard
Bruce, C. L. Henley, J. W. Stuart, Henry
Buck, L. W. Hildyard, R. C. 'Taylor, Thomas E.
Buller, Sir J. Y. Hildyard, T. B. T. Urquhart, David
Burrell, Sir C. Hobhouse, T. B. Vivian, J. E.
Christy, Samuel Hood, Sir A. TELLTRI.
Dodd, G. Ingestre, Visct.
Duncembe, 0. Mackenzie, W. F.

Banker, G.
Hudson, G.

PARLIAMEN TARY REFORM.
The following letter from Earl Stanhope has been
received by the Secretary of the West London Anti-
. .

Cie vr ee np el
reply
y, n t 0
yourear Seven Oaks,
letter,
e v elmust Kent, J
e ryuonue l2.
"Sir,—ln to
the
Enclosure Association:---
Resolutions on the General Principles of Representa-
tion,' which I prepared several years ago, and recently
published in some of the newspapers. They would es-
tablish triennial Parliaments, the right of voting b
ballot when any electors should think fit to exercise it,
and an allowance to Members of Parliament for their
expenses, if any of them chose to receive it. They would
abolish all property qualifications, both for Members of
Parliament and for electors; and would attain a most im-
portant object, in preventing elections from being expen-
sive to the candidates or profitable to the voters. They
would also give a vote to every citizen of the state, and
would secure a full and fair representation of all classes
of the community. These resolutions were the result of
long and deliberate reflection, but they have received
very little support, and, therefore, at present, I have no
intention or inducement to propose them in the House of
Lords, where I had some years ago an opportunity of
stating my opinions upon the subject.
" The mode of representation which I recommend is,
that every citizen of the state should vote in the class
or classes to which he belongs, each class having its own
representatives, and this principle seems to me perfectly
sate as well as salutary . I disapprove very much of
universal suffrage in the common acceptance of the
term, as the votes would be given collectively, a. .d the
numerical majority would thus acquire a prepon-
derating power which no class of the community
could justly claim or could properly exercise.
class
Every
others though it is of all
the most valuable and useful,
class, not even the labouring class,
has a riht to be fully represented,
g but no
represented. Although every citizen of the has any right to be
exclusively
state has a right to a vote, he has no right to give it in
such a manner as to render of no weight the votes of
others. For the same reason I disapprove of household
theh
e same
suffrage, which is liable, though in a lesser degree, to
objection, and would, besides, be very partial.
present representation appears to me very objection-
able in many respects, mad, among others, itz excluding

the labouring classes, and in giving too great a share of
power to the 101. voters. Its operation has shown its
defects, and I am thoroughly convinced that a House of
Commons in which all classes of the community were
fully represented would not have adopted such an in-
human measure as the new poor-law, or a system of
free trade which is unjust and injurious to the labouring
classes.--I am, Sir, yours, &c.,
" STANHOPE.
"To H. D. Griffiths."

COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL.
Yesterday a Court was held for the dispatch of
business.
The Lord Mayor placed the following letter before the
Court:—

" Whitehall, June 5, 1848.
"My Lord,—l have the honour to acknowledge the
receipt of your Lordship's letter of the 24th ult., trans-
mitting to me, at the request of the Common Council of
the city of London, the declarations ofloyalty subscribed
by the citizens with reference to the proceedings on Mon-
day, the 10th of April last.
" I have received with much gratification this addi-
tional proof of the loyalty of the citizens of London, and
of their firm attachment to the throne and constitutio❑
of this country.
" ller Majesty's Government relies with the greatest
confidence on their zealous and efficacious co-operation
in maintaining the public tranquillity and upholding the
supremacy of the law, in which all classes of her Ma-
jesty's subjects have so deep an interest.
" I have the honour to be, my Lord, your Lordship's
very obedient servant,

" G. GREY."
The letter was ordered to be entered upon the minus
of the Court.

EXEMPTION FROM ARREST.

Mr. ANDERTON said he had cut out of a newspaper
a paragraph which he considered it was necessary to
read to the Court, as the subject was one which con-
cerned the Corporation in no ordinary.degree. The pa-
ragraph stated that application was made at judges'
chambers to Mr. Justice Coleridge, to discharge an
officer of the City of London Small Debts Court, whose
case, upon an application to the Insolvent Debtors'
Court, appeared on the 6th inst., and who was refused
the protection of the Court and taken in execution on a
writ of fi. fa.; that the arrest was made in the court
where the cases were tried; and the defendant, at the
time he was arrested, contended that, under the 98th
and 99th sections of the City Small Debts Act, he was
not only exempted from arrest, but that the mere laying
hands on him to effect that arrest was an assault, he
being at the time in the execution of his duty; that the
officer, however, demurred to that interpretation of the
clauses, and conveyed the defendant to Whitecross-street;
and that Mr. Justice Coleridge made an order directing
the defendant to be discharged out of the custody
of the Sheriff. Now, he was not aware that officers
appointed by the Corporation were free from arrest.—
(El,ar, hear.) He could not see how, when honest
creditors felt such difficulty in getting their money, or
any part of it, the officers of the Corporation were to be
considered entitled to exemption, and he moved that the
subject be referred to the Officers and Clerks Committee
for inquiry.
Mr. R. TAYLOR said, the Corporation owed it to
Lord Shaftesbury that the protection was introduced
into the Bill.
The subject was then referred to the Committee.
It is proper to state, that Lord Shaftesbury required
that the City Small Debts Bill should be similar in every
respect to the County Courts Bill, and thus a protection
is given to some of its officers, without which it is con-
tended the business of the court could not be carried on,
any more than could that of Parliament without a similar
exemption.
Mr. SNELLING (the chairman of the City Lands Com-
mittee) brought up a report recommending the grant of
a piece of ground belonging to the Corporation to the
parish of St. Andrew-by-the-Wardrobe, in lieu of a
piece of ground to be laid into the public street, near
Puddle Dock, for the purpose of widening the same.
Agreed to.
_ .