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gun-boat, and the Admialty batge, were
tow by one of the launches, and after pas;
Blackfriar's-bridge returned to Somerset-lr.
result of the experiment of towing was most t.ati Letory,
and showed that similar launches would be a t rat ac-
quisition to ships bt war, and most serviceable for towing
gun-boats-into action, at the same tune illowing the
crews to remain under arms instead of having from tea
to sixteen men employed in rowing each gun-boat. The
water was rough during the experiment, the wind blow*
ing strong from the cast, and the swell in the river from
the numerous large steam. vessels fully tested the mesito
of the launches, and shovia that they could surmount
greater obstacles than will be presented to them in tt• smooth waters betwixt the icebergs ofthe Arctic regions.
The Enterprise, Captain Sir James Clarke Ross, and
the Investigator, Captain Bird, will receive eight boats
each vessel, all built by Mr. Thomson, who• has been
indefatigable in endeavouring by working day and night
to have them finished in time—One steam launch, tbi 0
boats of 23 feet each, one gig-. 22 feet, one dingy, and
three whale boats to each vessel.

848.

[PRICE SD.

IRELAND.

DUBLIN, MAY 4.—The ballot for the list of forty-
eight names, from which the jury to try Mr. Meagher
is to be selected, took place this day in the Crown-office
of the Queen's Bench. About one-third of the names
appear to be those of Roman Catholics, or Protestants of
Liberal politics. The other two-thirds are what are
termed "decided Conservatives."
On Saturday next the agents on both sides are to at•
tend before the proper officer. to reduce the list. The
Crown and the traverser will then strike off twelve
names each. The remaining twenty-four will constitute
the jury panel, and the first twelve who answer to their
names on the day of trial will form the jury on this im-
portant case.
The ballot i 3 in progress for the jury list in the case
of Mr. Smith O'Brien. An argument arose, on an ob-
jection stated by the Crown to the name of Alderman
Staunton (late Lord Mayor), who is legally disqualified
as a member of the town council, but proof was required
on the other side as to the tact of his being a member of
the council.
The town is placarded with the counter proclamation
of the Council of the Confederation, signed by Mr.
Smith O'Brien as chairman, which was read by Mr.
Sleagher at the meeting last night, and vast numbers
Dennyis said,ih Lane,
acthaoeorvlniels
orutntbhjmleeoecnntngi
Government
proclamations.
I,
continue. fl(a.t;
of copies have been circulated throughout the entire
country. It is manifest that the contest between the
Government and the Confederation is rapidly approach-
crecTep:t, it tor i4sl‘afEsd
so e meeting
sh
short
approach-
ing to an issue.
It is stated that several prosecutions under the Trea-
ay, are likewii,leit
Go-
vernment.
placarded or Billueslosrtindsw:}:ol"etcuelelmodnoeyaft:i : have been determined upon by the Go -
The Cork Examiner of yesterday evening contains the
following announcement:—
" MORE STATE PROSECUTIONS.—We are given to
iuonrdtenrestpailpothseatoifnfionrsmtiatutitoinngs have been swornpro, against
ac_reerttahikloyf
The next intelligence
appear from the tthheegceonutriletewmielnl who addressed the open air
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informationy was
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of the
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covered et rheed police.
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Telegraph, that somee
ration. This 13( are led
atonnboeulineevee itnhatthethaecc:.arialcsyarott,
proclamations of the Confede-
following paragraph in the
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engaged in pike making in the of
th ° Orange party are
" A faithworthy correspondent °°unty of Armagh
making is carried on in- the villa
informs us that pike
Joneshorough, and that orders for ag e ° f Meigh, near
have been given to the smith wrhao considerable number
The pike called the ' croppy, i, therar ufactures them.
publicly exhibited—the workmans`dp of
fm of the one
which, at al
events, dues credit to the handy cr l
afts man in that
locality."
In Dublin, military and defensive preparation
continued. Prince George of Cambridge has takens are
his quarters in the University, one of the Fellows having
up
given up his apartments for the accommodation of his
Royal Highners. The 48th Regiment, yesterday and
this day, went through a variety of evolutions in the
College Park. The head-quarters of that regiment are
at Beggar's Bush Barracks, with detachments in the
College and the Royal Dublin Society.
COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, MAY 4.

DEVONPORT DOCKYARD.
(From the Herald.)
The proposers of the uncalled-for and extravagant
chave onversionyeofi.irtehtle ton;rseu.la)trkies thaet BthoearDevonport
Admiralty
irYaalttjd•
that a small open basin, to be at once a basin for
ships and boats, would be at that establishment far
preferable to a closed capacious basin of the ordi-
nary kind, such as that at Tortsiziouth. Woolwich,
and Sheerness. Let us. however, see how this ques-
tion rests, and what are the grounds for such an
assumption. We have in former articles shown that
there is a lamentable want of efficient dock accommoda-
tion at Devonport ; that the depth of water at the
jetties does not admit even of a first-class frigate
lying near them at dead low-water spring tides, with
all stores on board; to which may be added, that
the fitting out of ships at a distance from the shore
is much impeded in bad w eather, and is liable to
serious inconvenience. The Devonport Dockyard be it
observed, in further treating this question, is decidedly
on a lee shore; is situate at the mouth of a largo and
powerful river, whose waters bring from the distant hills
very large quantities of alluvial deposit, so much so that,
during the heavy rains of winter, the whole surface is oc-
ca'ionally discoloured with it. Now the entrance to the
basin, at spring-tides, lies immediately exposed to the wash
of between three and four miles of these troubled waters,
which, during the heavy westerly gales, set directly into it.
Every tide brings in its deposit, so that in fact, as we
have before observed, such a basin would be little
better than a mud pond. It would, as a matter
of necessity, be continually filling -tip; -and there
would be no means of clearance, except by .dredg-
ing, both in the basin and at the entrance, the
excavations being carried far below low water; thus
entailing an everlasting expense. Moreover, the short
:ea, which would fro luently wash into the basin, would
be extremely inconvenient. According to the new pro-
position, this open basin is to be 260 feet wide, by
360idOe,fewetithlonagn.
ioTtoervceiiindtl!gin
atowooomsmhiodpsa,
tioonne
foonr
the entrance. But let us for an eabbiotoahutes, and a very deep dock immediately oppo-
sitetr
in-
stant look at this clumsy, ill-imagined proposi-
tion. Supposing the two ships in the basin, as
shown in Mr. Edye's plan, and of 56 feet beam and lying
10 feet clear of the walls,—this leaves about 128 feet clear
in the centre. Here we are to place barges upon float-
' sintaßgestsalgesll,4' e 0 feereet
tlong a
have
ey
with hawsers, boats with working forges and working
3p
t dol a t sG, il-gi asr buopuorn launchesßoating
boats of all kinds, all intervening between the dock
inte
ns ei dt
and the entrance, and constituting with the
shjP3 a mass of confusion .cite inconsistent
with the main object for which the work wait
will• f tbhei s
qbedistienaeriesteeos;
necessary
ye
to cd subservient
can possibly be docked without a general° clearance, boa
purpose of the dock and the accommodation of
nstructa
t
basin in some otter the yar , fur no ship
not only of the boats, but
ships also. It, on the Probably of one of the
contrary, this basin be con-
structed principally w•
vi dation of the dockyard bitoah ts then must be admitted to the accomtno-
it
we have gone far out of
ou'ar ew
300,0001, upon such an object. latywinulxpending some
be far better
to arrest the work altogether, restoor existing walls, leaving the invert as it tihe previously
would be nearly sixteen feet of water over it at iow
water. We should then save large ex totosit low
and have quite as good a practical acconap m odat roe'
as would arise out of this new scheme, which is only
to be characterised as being " some such thing to no
such purpose ;" for any attempt to make a small open
basin subservient to the purposes of ships and boats ,
and the free use of a dock, is a manifest ab-
surdity and an intolerable waste of the public money.
A closed basin, as originally intended, calculated for the
fitting out expeditiously at the wharves four sail of the
line, with all stores, and embracing beside two first•clasa
docks, available twice in every 24 hours, is, on the con-
trary, an intelligible proposition, and not liable to
the many contingencies and inconveniences we have
enumerated. The deposit would be greatly prevented
by the tide being shut out, and would hence be small
and only at certain times far apart ; the basin would be
sheltered, and, if required, could atter a run of years be
pumps dry and cleared. There would be also
the capital advantage of keering the entrance
'cc side clear, by means ef large sluicies occasion-
ally laid open fre ni within. at dead low-water
spring tides. The convenience of such a basin
is (almost incalculable, and could__) ot—Lut,,prnva highly
neneneiar to our naval power. The case is
so
piAio, that it is really quite surprising how so stupi.l
a propo,it ion as the notivvrsion of it into a contracted
op. n pond, scarcely giving room for two large-class
frigates, and very ill adapted for boats, should hare
been entertained for a moment. But, say the tidy° •
eates of this conver.ion, it is doubtful it any large
hip can pass over the invert, which is on the old
plan, without scraping her copper." They call
it the "stupidly-planned invert," and say that " a
error previeusly committed was in this rt peated."n We suppose all this is by way of compliment to the
lase Colonel Brandreth, end many eminent engineers
and writers of former times, such men as Sao atott and
[Litton, for example, who of course cannot pretend to
rank in ability with the msster sh; ; "
.pwriget at esevon-
pert. Bat we would respectfully submit to the Lords
Commissioners of the Admiralty, that this " stupidly-
planned invert is most ample, and well adapted to the
quired purpose. It is seventy-four feet wide at
he top, and fully sixty-six feet wide at the lowest
°flint of tide at which such a ship as the Queen, of
60 feet beam—one of the widest ships in the navy—
could be taken in with all stores ; so that there would
ne full three feet clearance all round at the water
tine. At high-water 'spring- tides the width is
70 feet nearly, w,ien there would be nearly five
feet clearance. At high-water neap tides the width
is nearly 68 feet, with nearly four feet clear-
ance ; and this is for the widest ship ever built.
Vt,'ith others of our first-rates and two-deck ships there
would be from five to seven feet clearance. Now we do
not hesitate to say that any dockyard cfficer responsible
for this branch of duty, who allowed the least damage to
be done to " a large ship's " copper in taking her
into the basin with from three to seven feet clearance and
the aid of temporary fenders and other means, would
deserve to be dismissed from her Majesty's service;
and we cannot but regard the assumption to the con-
trary as a remarkable specimen of what in ordinary
life is sometimes called "modest assurance." In the
return for the capacities of the docks, Mr. Vs e
'fates that No. 4 dock will receive " ships of the
largest class." Yes, he can take a ship of 55 feet
5 inches beam into a dock only 56 feet 2 inches
wide at the entraneo. ssouici be pose
Lively not five inches clearance; but he cannot take
the same ship into the basin having from more that
five to seven feet clearance " without scraping the
copper." We beg to call their Lordships especia 1
attention to this specimen of a new inductive
Philosophy. We feel, however, disposed to believe, theft,
after all, the great question with the Government is
the money question. There are many extremely intel-
ligent and thinking men connected with the Admiralty,
such as Sir Baldwin Walker, Colonel Irvine, and others,
who really must know that all these pretended objec-
tions to the original design are " weak inventions."
They have plans of this invert, and may, therefore, by
placing
a midship-section of the Queen to the same
scale on other ships, in the centre of the plan, imme-
niately perceive
that there is not the slightest reason tor
disturbing this invert, at a cost of from 20,0001. to
to (Willi nn this wnocknnt_ Ail .1. sAut-cgtops
advanced, such as the " necessity for docking and
bringing ships into the basin by torch-light;';
—(Why?)— the " impossibility of rernvngh
caisoon, except at the high water spring tides,"t &c.;
the danger of "strips being damaged by contact with
untenable. It is,
the jetty heads," &C., are equally yremains
to
therefore, the money question which alone
be exposed, and this we hope effectually to do on a
future occasion; and we undertake to prove upon lair
and reasonable grounds,
that so far from any saving
h
enew
scheme, there would be a
great increase of
being effected by_ t
expenditure, and the Governutentwould have to pay 350,0001. probably from a heartless
ruin of a great national work. We have only to add
wit
h respect to the invert—that
there are 15 feat ginches water over it at low water spring tides, and 20 feet
at low water neap tides. At high water spring tides
there are from 30 to 32 feet, and at high water
neap
tides from 28 to 30 feet. So that any ship of the navy
may come in on an average upon two or four hours'
flood, with all stores, twice each day; at a light draught
much sooner—small frigates at almost any time. Now
we appeal to the honest conviction of any 6114 m-right
officsr, well acquainted with the service at the Dievon-
port-yard, whether that is not ample—nay more than
ample accommodation—and that the late Mr. Hamkes
well knew when he agreed to this "stupidly-i leaned"
basin. The assumption that a pressing necessity may
arise for docking a ship precisely at dead low-water
spring tides is a perfect delusion—so evanescent in quan-
tity that no one would have thought of making it enter
in the least degree into the original calculation for this
basin. But any one who would dream of breaking up
and ruining the whole work, when far cdviinced, in pur-
suit of such a shadow, and sacrifice some 50,000/. to gra-
tify such on irrational piece of caprice, should really be
consigned to the care of his physician, and be put under
mild but wholesome official restraint.

THE QUEEN V. MEAGHER.

In pursuance et the order of Court to strike a special
jury in this case, the Clerk of the Crown, the High
Sheriff, and Sub-Sheriff, attended in the Crown-office for
the purpose.
Mr. Perrin appeared for the Crown, and Sir Colman
O'Logblen and Mr. Pigot appeared for the traverser.
The following forty-eight names were drawn from the
ballot-box, from amongst which the jury to try the case
of" The Queen v. Meagher" will be selected:—
Francis Codd, Townsend-street; Thomas Connell,
Upper Gardiner-street; John Parker, Dame-street;
Richard Walsh, Belvidere-place; Henry M'Donagh,
Dawson-street ; James Gray, Commercial-buildings;
George Cowell, Capel-street; James Dudgeon, Upper
Fitzwilliarn-street; W. R. Sterling. Royal Canal Ter-
race; W. J. French, Upper Sackville-street; John Sib-
thorpe, Cork-hill ; John Reynolds, College-greet;
Thomas Sherrard, Blessington-street; James Reilly,
Westmoreland-street ; George Papworth, Marlbo-
rough-street ; William Pattison, Capel-street ; Charles
Thorpe, William-street ; John Hayes, Harring-
ton-street; William Law, Lower Sackville-street; John
Denman, Abbey-street ; Hugh Ingram, Y, irk-street ;
John S. Armstrong, Eccles-street; Hugh Blaney, West
Es,ex-street; John Langhan, North King-street; David
North, Russell-place; Simpson Nelson BuriiA, North
Strand; Plutnpian Wallace,,Russell-place;Thomas Wil-
son, Upper Tewpl -street ; Sir Charles Corte, Bart ,
lit:Tot-street ; Alexander Noble, Russell
, ILmory eluueda,....r-,Lreut John
Dawson-street ; James Power, Lower Bag-
got-street ; Tnotnas Egan, High-street ; Bartholomew
Delany, Wellington-quay; Richard Johnston, Grafton-
street; James Pim, Love late; Thomas Farrell, Lower
Ormond-quay ; Thomas James, Capel-street Arthur
Craig Taylor, Lower Mount-street; William Cockburn,
Upper Merrion-street; Robert Milner, Queen-street ;
Samuel Parker, Back lane ; Patrick Nolan, k.wer
Suckvillo-street; Sheffield Beatham, Lower Mourt-street;
Robert Decker, Elden-quay ;: John Scully, ;
and Paul Twigg, Cumberland-street.
Mr. Bourne was about to proceed with the ballot for
a similar number of names from which the jury was ti.
be chosen in the cause of the Queen r. W. S. O'Brien,
M.P., when

Mr. POTTER, addressing him, said that he had just
that moment received a letter from Mr. ()Tricn, is
which he expressed himself satisfied that the first twelve
names drawn from the ballot-box should be appointed to
try his rase,

Mr. PERRIN, on the part of the Crown, said he had
not received any instructions to depart from the usua;
course of striking a special jury.
Mr. Bourne suggested that the Attorney-General
should be consulted on the subject.
This suggestion having been complied with, Mr.
Bourne suspended the proceedings until the Attormy
Gyneral's opiiiion sould be had. Mr. Potter having.
submitted Mr. Smith O'Brien's request. to the Solicitor-
General, be returned to the Crown-office, and stated t,
,wir. Bourne that the Solicitor General had refused,
saying that the proceedings should take the ordinary
course.

Mr. Bourne then proceeded to ballot for fort•-eigh
mares, from which Mr. O'Brien's jury is to be se•
1, cted.

Captain Lockwood was killed yesterday, by a fall
from his horse, at a race in Thurles, county of Tip-

perary.
DISTRESS Is KlL3loE.—This miserable district is
again visited by the famine and sickness which gave it
last year a fatal notoriety all over the empire. The
letter of our correspondent from Crookhaven conveys a
deplorable account of the poor
of that locality. He
says „ hourly. in every part of Kil-
m;e, from dysentery or exhaustion," and "as to the
deaths in the hospital, they are really frightful."--Cork
Examiner.

M. Guizot was in the House of Lords last evening
during the debate upon Lord Stanley's motion relating
to the correspondence between Lord Palmerston, Mr.
Bulwer, and the Duke of Sotomayor. The ex-minister
stood the entire time by the great candelabrum adjoin-
me the Bishops' bench, between it and the Prince of
Wales's chair, and seemed deeply interested in the de-
bate. Many Noble Lords from time to time went up,
shook hands, ar.d conversed with him. The Earl of
Aberdeen held a lorg, and apparently. earnest, 'mayor-
SatiOn Fith him towards the eloge of the proceeding"