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London, England, 1846-06-03 00:00:00

deeenbats, had far greater difficulties to contend with, and
burdens of a very different weight hanging over our
!heads. I feel confident that the alit-- followed sieve
1840 hes much to do with this serenity, and that th.
Government has contribu:ed to bring about this happy
state of things. For my part, I congratulate myself
that, notwithstanding the violent attacks which have
been directed against the Government, we are at p':esent
in such it position as to be able to hear without inconve-
nience everything that may be alleged ia 'tills tribune."
—(Loud applause and great spit'„ilon.)
IN THE SITTINt:, 3Lty 29.
M. Tam, tta„, afy,ter, fe7 observations on the increase
of the National Deoa, again recurred to the subject of the relations of the Ministers with the Crown. He had
three times bror.ght that question before the Chamber.
The flast waa,
in a great debate, in which he had ob-
tairaed the support of MM. Guizot and Duchatel ; the
ceeon4.en the occasion of a member of the Cabit.et be-
ing Ambassador at London ; and the third when the
tiiimussion of the incompatibilities had been brought
forward. He was altogether of opinion-that France had
'given herself to her King, and that she was fortunate in
meeting with such a prince ; but he (M. Thiers) must
be also permitted to say that it was a great happiness
for that prince to reign over so great and noble a coun
try as France.—(Hear, hesr ) As to the conditions of
the contract, he had no need to repeat them—the Cham
bee knew them all.
31. Dupm (pointing to the picture over the President's
chair, of the Kim; swearing to observe the Charter)
There is the represenuetion of the sacred act ! (Ap-
plause from the left.)
M. TRIERS was ejteply attached to the monarchy.
ar hs but the
The savage nation
people of Frar, ,s of Asia also had
Under the P.aking ee could not be governed monarchs,
them.
storation, a good and generous
ex-
isted, but ',,as was persuaded that if the opposition gained
ground,. tt would lose his head on the scaffold ;he
gave ;-nod with that idea, worked against the Martignac
Vanistry, and urged matters
to such a point that Franc.
sem up one day, and hurled him from the throne.
They all had sprung from the Restoration, and they be-
lieved that what was required was the existence of
who 'd
re-
sponsible Ministers—Msters who were independent,
who protected the Crown, and et not stand aside
before it.—(Hear, hear.) Ministers who thus gave way
allowed the evil and the good to pass equally by. He
maintained that Ministers ought to completely cover and
-protect the Crown. They ought to have a firm will ;
this he conceived to be a necessity of their constitutional
system. Some attempts had been made to connect to-
tether a speech of his with the late attempt against the
King's life—at least some of the journals had endea-
`Toured to do so. He protested against such insinuations,
though it was scarcely necessary, atter the many proofs
which he had given of his devoteness to the throne.—
(" Hear, hear," from the h-ft.) He should terinina:e by
saying that, if the present Ministry was net to lust for
ever ; if, some day or other, cireumstancea should in-
since the Crown to have recourse to a Ministry now
'appearing impossible, and that he should be scnt for to
take part in the couna la of the Crown, he should bring
with him the gr, atest devotedness ; it' he found himselt
in accord with the King, he should be truly delight's' ;
if not, he should retire. He thought that such pride
was better than that of ti e men who lowered them-elves,
not to keep power, but merely the appearance of it.—
(" Hear, hear," from the left.)
MINISTER of FOREIGN AFFAlRS—Whenever the Hon.
1. Thiers has attacked the Ministry, he said—" You are
unere instruments ; it I had been sati,tlcd to do like you,
I could have remained Minister."—(Agiattion.)
TRIERS —I never said that !
MINISTER of FOREIGN AFFAIRS—That was the sense,
if not the text, of the Hon. Deputy's words ; and ;shut
aid that signify, if not that there was an influence that
'made and unmade Ministers ? If the Opposition had
said that the Ministry was feeble and perverse, and
allowed the Crown to take too much parr in one of the
powers of the State, he should have nothing to say.—
(Violent exclamations on the left.) He was astonished
that the distinction was not ob-entd. and he would re-
peat his remark.—( Hear, hear.) They might accuse
the Ministry of weakness, corruption, or even worse,
but they could accuse them alone.—(Applause.) This
-was not done when they said, " If I had alone as you did
I might still be a Minster."—(A.dhesion from the
centre.) He had already said, and repeated, the part of
a constitutional Minister consisted in the maintenance of
a good accord between the three great powers of the
state. That this was a great labour fur Ministers was
incontestable. Before the Chambers they defended the
laws which were brought before them, and with the
Crown they fulfilled an analogous mis ion ; they entered
into discussion with it and induced it to consent to what
-appeared to them good and useful.—(Movement on the
left.) The Crown was not a seat on which a bar was
placed that no one might sit thereon ; it was nut a door
closed to all ambitions, to all passions ; it was more than
that, it was an active ar.d real part of their Guverement
institutions.
M. 0. EARROTT—You are quite right.
MINISTER of FOREIGN AFFAIRS— fhe Crown was an
intelligent person, which had is ideas, its sentiments,
and its desires, like other animated beings. That person
bad rights and duties ; his duty was to govern con-
formably to the charter, and in accord with the great
public powers. That duty had never failed, and would
never be wanting.—(Movement.) lie repeated that the
Crown was an intelligent person, and not a mere ma-
chine made to occupy a place which others might take.
A Voice—And the Queen of England.
MINISTER Of FOREIGN AFFAIRS-1f the Hon. Mem-
ber who had interrupred bun had known what took
place in England—if he was aware that one of the
greatest measures—Catholic emancpation, had been
postponed for twenty years because Sir H. Peel, power-
ful as he was, could not persuade the crown to acquiesce
in it, he would not have inter; upted him.
A Voice—lt was, howl ver, eventually- passed.
MINISTER of FOREIGN AFFAIRS—Did the ITOO.
Deputy know why ? lie would tell him. B rags,, it,
England there was no Minister who would wir.„' to itn.
pose a despotic will on others ; because
'"England
'
all political men, all Ministers, knew that
Was neeps..
sary to treat and discuss with the Crov
'r'+ and they dal a
so. That was how things were cancl.4,,,ted in England,
and the same course should be put-
ssaed here. lie had
the day before used the expre.sa.e, s.
stand aside," in face
of the throne. He was not tv...,e first who had etopi )
„ ed
it. Lords Chatham and r.irey had used it, a d the
latter had done so in ore
to give William IV. all the
honour of carrying t..e it form MB. He had us d the
word in the same a.lise in which the above Nobleman
had employed it . in order to give the King the credit for
all the good ',hat was done. But when the question was
no longer to " stand aside," but to shield the Crown
Against ,
accusations brought against the Government,
the raahiuta would know how to fulfil its tnissionna well
arety other.—(Agitation, and cries of " Divide.")
The discussion was then declared to be closed.
The Chamber rose at a qua-ea rto eight, and on a di-
'vision, as our readers are already aware, the Ministers
obtained a majority of 73.

MONEY MAR,iiET and CITY NEWS,
CITY, TUESDAY EVENING.
TIMES.—The swindling case at Windsor, described in the
Times of to-day and yesterday, has formed a leading subject
of conversation among the banking circles in the City, and it
-is generally thought that an important lesson is afforded
against heedlessness in giving out cheque-books.
The case is really this :—A person goes to a banker with
a cheque drawn upon another banker, who lives at a sufficient
distance to render immediate presentation impossible, and on
the strength of this cheque opens an account and obtains a
‘:..hegite- book, by which he is enabled to dazzle the eyes of
various triadesnicn. Even Wile meets with one more sceptical
than the rest, he is able to send the objector to the banker
(here Messrs. Neville Reid and Co), being sure that all
inquiries will meet a satisfactory answer, provided that the
time which is occupied: by the original cheque going to its
destination and coming hack has not expired. When that
cheque returns dishonoured, of course the scheme is" blown,"
as was actually the case.
It is quite clear that the whole deep-laid plan of the frau-
dulent party was to obtain possession of a blank cheque
bock. He contemplated no advance of money, nor of pro-
perty of any kind, but simply a blank cheque-book, with a
reference springing out of it, which would last two or three
days. To those who would look at the matter with a
merely legal eye, and consider a blank cheque-book as a mere
form signifying nothing, the swindler will appear to have
taken
a great deal of pains for a very little object. But
practically it was a very great object, and this the ,4 gentle-
manly-looking man" knew 'WC' enough. He knew that iii
of a cheque-book Pwalsene-,,ecul tradesmen the possession
stun which he wrote u e sort of evidence that the
-,,o‘n the document would be forth-
coming from the ban',- Had he written his cheque upon
a piece of white
nothing, but • paper, he would probably have done
tion of con there is a certain magic in the combina-
-
coMmon
Irtnailuscript which is imposing to
vilioegelicyceonmptahneiedd by a plausibility
of m?...iner in the person, who
so, well known in London, that some of t?iceunetndle.rs,Twh.he.ns
they give the cheque-bask to a customer, accompany it with
a precaution that it shoul9 be kept under lock and key, lest
it should find its way into improper hands. Some of the
joint-stock banks ad, pt the further precaution of stamping
the book of each customer with a particular number, so that
if any of the blanks are imprope ly used, they have at any
rate some clue to the source ‘4 hence the wrong proceeded.
Thus, if a forgery is committed on one of John smith's blank
cheques, the bankers know at once tnat it was torn from
John Smith's book, and probably by some one who had ac-
cess to John Smith's strong box.
The general view taken here is, that the Windsor bankers
were imprudent in parting so readily with the blank cheque-
book. At all events, they should have waited tits the return
of the cheque, and ascertained that the money was in their
coffer, before they gave the power of drawing. But even
this precaution would have fallen far short of that which is
adopted by the more prudent bankers in London, who will
not open an account with a person unless he gives a respect-
able reference, or at any rate a satisfactory accent of nim-
self, though he presents a bundle of 13ankof England notes,
or a bag of hard sovereigns. Many swindlers on a la:ge
scale, if they have scraped together a -few hundreds, would be
glad to open a bond-fide account n ith some banking-house of
good standing-, and thus secure a respectable reference in
the event of some inconvenient curiosity. Against ,ucli
perversions of banking as this the London banker is particu-
rly on his guard, though we suppuse at Windso,-, where a
cheque on a banker two days' journey off, paid in by an
utter stranger, is deemed at once to be good, such precautions
would be thought fastidious in the extreme.
HERALD.—We are enabled to state that Lord Aberdeen
has intimated to Mr. M•Lane, the American Minister in
London, that our Government have determined to offer their
mediation for the arrangement of all differences between
Mexico and the -United States. The neces,ary instructions
and full powers for the purpose will be for. Warded to Mr.
Pakenham by the Caledonia steamer, the letters for which
are made up to-morrow evening, This is a matter of very
great importance, and every friend to humanity and justice
must ardently desire that the m. 6ation may have a
u
fill result. It is further underst,,,d thati, oititiriaGottAbTernmsencetelsiass
ascertained that the offer of nliati,n w
unaccept-
able to the Executive of the ll.oted States.

Much dissatisfaction having arisen among the artisans
engaged in the production of the Llama Cloth in the West of
England, by reason of a rumour that it was the intention of
the Messrs. Nicoll, of Regent-street, to remove such manu-
facture nearer to the metropolis, those gentlemen have hstted
a circular denying awl to be their ?aria:es:l, and whizh has
allayed Ora larsz body of men.