The Sun.
London, England, 1846-03-20 00:00:00

LORDS' SUL MARY.

The LORD CHANCE' Lon took his seat on the woolsack at
Five o'clock.

Various petitions having been presented,

The Earl of CLANG.A.RTV stated that Mr. GUISTONE had
presented to the Committee on the Irish Poor Laws the
papers to which a Noble and Learned Lord (BriouctiA3l) had
alluded yesterday.
Lord BROUGHAM expressed himself satisfied with what
bad fallen from the Noble Earl, but he witted for the papers
to be produced.
The ;Metropolitan Buildings Act • passed through. Com-
mittee.

The Marquis of CLANRICABDI moved that the petition of
G. Pry me, of Cambridge, Esq.,,and James .Tyler, of Islington,
Esq., be referred to a Seleet,Committee: to inquire and report
thereon. These petitions were against the London and York
Railway Bill, and had been confided to him on Monday, and
he had held them over to make inquiries, and trusted that
petitioners wsti!d not be prevented from being heard because
he had kept back the petition.
Lord BEAumorr opposed the motion as quite irregular.
Lord MONTEAGLE thought the petitioners should be per-
mitted to go before the Committee.
The Earl of SHAFTYSDURY thought the better course to
pursile would be to give notice of a motion suspending the
standing orders, and then the matter would be regularly dis-
cussed on Mond.y.
The suggestion was adopted, and the further discussion of
the point postponed till Monday, after which their Lordships
adjourued.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The Smaxan took the Chair at a few minutes to Four.
SECOND READINGS.

The following Dills were read a second time, and ordered to
be committed : _

ew---eastleupon-Tyne Improvement

Harrogate Cu
York mprovement
Sutton Harbour and Docks (Plymouth)
Commercial ito2d

Wisbaw and Celtneis Railway (Greenhill Branch)
Sheffield Markets

New Zealand Company
Hartlepool Gas and Water
Liverpool and Harrington Waterworks
Manchester and Leeds and Leeds and Bradford Railways Anite-
gamstion
Manchester and Southr.mpton Railway.
HIRD READINGS.

The following Bills were read a third time and passed, viz.:
Aylelbory Small Tenements, Radcliffe and Pilkington Gas,
Duwnpatrick Gas.
Numerous petitions in favour of arid against various railway
Bills were presented and ordered to lie on the table.
MANCHESTER AND SOUTHAMATON RAILWAY.
Petitions in favour of this line were presented by Mr. Milner
Gibson, from upwards of 3,000 merchants, traders, and inha-
bitants of Manchester, representing one-fourth of the entire
assessment of the borough ; by Mr. G. W. Hope, from the
mayor and corporation of Southampton ; by the same lion.
Gentleman, from upwards of 2,000 merchants, bankers,
tradesmen, and burgesses of Southampton ; by Mr. Craven
Berkeley, from the borough of Cheltenham ; by Lord Ernest
Bruce, from the corporation of Marlborough ; by the
same Noble Lord, from the inhabitants of the town of
Marlborough ; by Mr. William Cripps, from the bo-
rough of Cirencester ; by Mr. Etwall, from the corporation
of Andover; by the sat:r.c Hon.. Gentleman from the clergy,
gentry, landowners, agri.colttro.ts, and other inhabitants of the
town of Andover and its neighbourhood ; by Mr. Compten,
from the landowners and agriculturists of Stockbridge and its
neighbourhood ; by Mr. Bennett, from the corporation of
Seltsbury ; by Mr. Phillips, from the corporation of Poole ; by
Mr. Email, from the corporation of Ramsey; by the
same Hon. Member, from the inhabitants of Romsey ; by
Mr. Neeld, from the borough of Crieklade and the town of
Swindon; by Mr. Sidney Herbert, from the inhabitants of
the borough of
o the port
fNew Serumt
; by Mr. G. W. Hope, from the
commissionersand harbour of Southampton ;
by Lord Charles Wellesley, from the inhabitants of Redbridge,
Ifillbrook, and Ealing; by Sir William Heathcote, from the
inhabitants of Broughton ; by Mr. Sidney Herbert, from the
borou;,la of Devizea ; by Mr. Phillips, from the inhabitants of
Poole; by Mr. liainilton, from 1,603 ratepayers and inhabi-
tants of the Isle of Wight ; by Mr. Compton, from the inha-
bitants of Fordirgbridge ; by Mr. Sidney Herbert, from the
inhabitants of Dowoton ; and by Sir William Heathcote, from
the owner!, lessees, and occupiers of land upon the line.—
Oidered to be referred to the Committee cn the Bill.

selllelert.
CommitteeßonTpmetoivtied onsthfaotr
pitrik,eataen ißinlisst,rutc n to the
otiotakeino
their earlit et consideration the several following petitions for
Biqa which have been referred to them, via.:—Perth and
Inverness Railway; Inverness and Elgin Junction Railway •,
Morayshire Railway ;. Aberdeen, Banff, and Elgin Railway ;
Kilmarnock and 'l'roon Railway ; Paisley, Barrhead, and
Hurlet Railway; Kilmarnock 'and Ayr Ditect Railway; and
Hamilton and StrathavEn Railway.
Mr. HODGSON hoped the House would not agree to the
motion, although it was brought forward by the chairman of
the Standing Orders' Committee. Should the.motion be agreed
to it would pot many parties to a very great expense.
If the Hon. Member came down asking to put Bats out of
their order, it was quite clear that the persons promoting other
Bills could have no idea what time they would be called on,
and this would necessarily involve a very heavy cxpente on the
part of some promoters.
Mr. E. ELLICE, jun., said that he knew one instance where
a railway was within two of the top of the list; and therefore
very likely to be called on soon, but by some new atrange-
went of the Standing Orders Committee—an arrangement
entered into without the knowledge of the parties—they were
put bark for three weeks, tied the parties who were opposing
them were obliged, in consequence, to support these witnesses
in town at a great expanse.
Mr. SIR UTT said that if the Committees on Select Peti-
tions wished to do their duty to the public, they would take
the Bills is. their regular order upon the list. He invariably
did so, unle:=s he had the consent in writing of promoters and
objectors to Ls postponement.
The motion seas then put and agreed to.
LONDON AND OXFORD RAILWAY BILL.

Mr. COBDEN pr,tenteti a petition in favour of this Hilt
DOWNPATRICK GAS WORKS. . _

Mr. S. CitA iojillic;;lenteii a petition, praying that the
Duwnpatrick Gas Works 13111 he'passed.
THE MILITIA. _ .

Mr. T. DUNCOMBEpre;ented several petitions against
the enrolment of the militia. The same Hon. Member pre-
sented a peti,ifat from the handloom weavers of Wickham.
praying for some modification of the existing laws in their
regard.
Mr. COBDEN presented several petitions praying for a total
and immediate reieal of the corn-laws, which were ordered to
lie ou the table.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.
On the ralti,n of the CHANCELLOR of the EX-
CHEQUER, it was agreed that the House at its rising do
adjourn till Monday next.
RAILWAY AMALGAMATION.
Mr. WILSON FATTEN gave notice that on Monday he
would move for a Select Committee to inquire whether railvray
amalgamation were consistent with the commercial interests
of the country.
Mr. R. YORKE asked the Secretary of State for the Home
Department, whether he could give any specific information in
respect to the r,turn to England of Joseph Mason, who was

sentenced to twenty years' transportation at the York March
Assizes, in 1843, upon a conviction which:turned out . to have
been given in en or, and which was established so to have been
given in December, 1845.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that a commission had been ap-
pointed
to inquire into the circumstances, and at first there
appeared no reason to be dissatisfied with the verdict. Subse-
quently information was given that an alibi could be proved.
The circumstances of that alibi were so strange, that it was
thought right to leave the evidence to the consideration of one
of the judges. The whole. matter was therefore left to the
consideration of Mr. Justice Coleridge, and in consequence of
his decision a free pardon was sent out to Masot:, who was now
en his return to England.
Mr. WYSE wished to ask a question of the Right I-lon.
Baronet at the head of the Home Department (Sir Jas. Gra-
ham) with respect to education in Ireland. By the repoit of
the Commissioners of 183'3 from the Booed of National Edu-
cation in Ireland, he learned that it was a recommendation
on the part of that Board, that schools should be established
throughout the several districts of that country. During
the course of last session the Government gave a promise that
an Act (1 inborporation for the national education in Ireland
should be passed that He had therefore three que.s-
tions to ask—fiisa, as to whether any intention was entertained
of making an alteration in the constitution of the board
of Education in Ireland, as was promised last session?
Secondly, whether cny measure was to be brought in for
giving effect to that alteration in the several towns mentioned
in the report; and thirdly, whether there was any intention of
carrying out this recommerdation in the way of the establish-
ment of schools in the agricultural districts.
Sr JAME,S GRAHAM was glad to have the satisfaction to
answer the Hon. Member for Waterford (Mr. Wyse), to say
that a charter of incorporation was being prepared fur
the National Board of Educat.on in Ireland. In
reply to the second qu: sticn, he was also able
to say that measures were in p eparation far the establishmen,
of t.ost! solipais to W the Hop. Member had alluded. And
in reply to the third question, he 1,4 d to say that the Govern-
ment Were as etpiaily- anxious to spread education throudn the
ggricultural qistricts as through the municipvl poonlaztion i but
it would depend upon the reports of the 'National Board of
Education in which woy their efforts were to be eirected.
CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL.

On the motion of the CHANCEI,LQII of the EXCIIE-
Qinfl; the Cinisolidared Fait" Bill,:8,000,000/., received its
third reading and passed.
Mr. WYSE moved that the charter of incorporation under
which the national board of education in Ireland had been
irietesposeied, ehoeit's be upoo the tehie.
Ali. PETER BORTHWICE" fele to ask the Hight Hon.
theYirst Lord of the Treasury, whether it was the intention of
ber 3lajesty's Government to present to this House copies or
extracts of any ccrrespondence which may have passed between
Use elecreteey of 41te fur Foreitie /Sifters ezid her Majesty's
Mlniater at Waehlugten, in reletree to the ()repel territory.
It might be in the recollection of the How tlsrit• at the be-
ginning of the present elf parliament, her
.3layasty,had,
trope tbe throne, regretted, that the conflicting claims of Great
Britain and the United States. had. not been satifactsorilysei tied,
although they had been made the subject of rapeetedneeetiation.
CI? tg that sporeent the. Opeee tend the cothory had yielded a
sitent but entire cothidenceln the carrying out of that measure.
It was not his intention to disturb that silence, or to intimate in
the slightes degree, a diminution of that cordial-tee, list it was
impoqible to ponceal the feet that eltheueh that iletise eppre-
eiged, mid fully uridertese,d; the spirit in which her
Majesty's Ministers acted, yet, on the other side of
the Atlantic there did exist misguided and ignorant
persons, who put upon the words pronounced ty her
Majesty from the throne, and etpzequeot oroeeedingls -of her
Maiestyls G6Vernrant in tnat'Houie, a construction which was
not intended to be produced. Blaster and bravado always
indicated timidity, and with feelings of bluster and bravado had
the war party in America received the intkinttiq
444- 114:241 iiiiTPl4 e°44ili,lh Jig thoosbt it was
time gut 1-I,llafid should • distinctly dftlara her
views. He had preferred rather tr 4 lige a question to
the Right Honourable gepOemen than make a motion
upon the sehject, Ca he thought the subject itself
wail opt one fo be discussed in a popular assembly.
tie had hoped that the Right Hon. Baronet viould, of his own
accord, recommend the prosily:lien pf sPcb of these papers, or
or extracts froso them, as might be necessary to inform the
'loose of the nature of the negocietions which had taken place.
He could, therefore, simply ask the Right Hon. Gentleman
whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to
present to the House those papers, or extraete from any cor-
respondence which passed between per Minister at Washington
and the Alioister
.esf the cnited States with relation to the
Orogen territory,
Sir HOBERT PEEL—Mr. Speaker, I do not think it will
be necessary for me to make any observations with respect to
the general subject to which the Right Hon. Gentleman has
alluded.— (Cheers.) I thick explanation wholly unnecessary
beeanse I think the expressions of her Majesty's Government
and other expressions used by public men in this and the
other Flom of Parliament have not been misconstrued in
the United States.—(Hear, hear.) Ido net think th; t
there would be any public advantage by laying the papers re•
ferred to on the table of the House In the present state of the
question—in the present state of the differences between this
country and the United States with respect,to the Oregon
territory.—(Hear, hear.) I do not think that any ad-
vantage would arise ; and therefore it is not the inten-
tion of her Infejesty's Government to make any such com-
munications at the present moment. At the same time lam
bound to say, that certain communications and certain notes
have passed between Mr. Buchan and Mr. Pekenham, with
respect to the claims of the Government of the United States
to the Oregon territory. Although I should not have thought
it necessary to have laid these communications on the table of
she ll,.use, but as it may perhaps he necessary to 'authenticate
the circumstances contained in them, and as publicity has
been given to them.;-( Laughter) —I shali have no objection to
lay them do the table -of the House.—(Cries of"' No, no.")
We have no proposition to make to the House, on the part
of the Government, with respect to the disputes with the
United States relative to that territory, because
the negotisth us have net been brought to a , conclu-
sien, and because it is quite unusual to snake such dis-
closures as those requires! by the lion. Gentleman until they
have been brought to a conclusion.—(Hear, hear.) But a,
these communications have been made public, and as the
House may wish to know whether they are authentic or not,
if it is the wish of the House, I should have no objection to lay
them on the table.
Lord J. RUSSELL said as far as he wao concerned he
did not wish for the production of the papers referred to until
she Right Hon. Baronet could state that the negotiations had
reached such a point at which it would be either satisfactory or
unsatisfactory to lay them on the table of the House. He, however
thought that it would be left to the Right Hon. Gentleman to
produce them when he thought proper, because the public
service might suffer by their production during the continuance
of negotiations. He wished, however, before he concluded,
to refer to another subject. He wished to ask a question of
the Right Hon. Baronet as to the course which he intended
to put sue with respect to the corn-laws. They had now been
eight weeks assembled since her Majesty addressed her most
gracious speech from the throne with respect to
those laws. The Right Honourable Gentleman,
after the first statement of his measures, gave, 1
think a fortnight before any consideration of those measures
• should be brought before the House. They had now
been engaged three weeks in a preliminary dis-
cussion after the introduction of the Bill. Now, it did
seem to him that after so much discusasion, and that after the
Right Honourable Gentleman had declared his intention
to go on with the discussion from day to day,
that great and unnecessary delay had ken place.
He should have thought that that would have been the case, but
he now found that it was his intention the first day after
the second reading of the Cot n Bill to propose
the first reading of the Bill for protection to
life in Ireland. If he considered the former measure of such
great importance, he considered that the latter Bill should
not have been brought forward till after the third reading
of the Corn Bill ; and he was of opinion that by the course
proposed, no time would he-gained. He wished, therefore, to
express a hope that the Right Honourable Gentleman
the First Lord of the 'I reasury would adhere to
the arrangement originally proposed, and as sufficient
discussion had tcken place on the Corn Bill as to shield the
Right Hon. Gentleman from any charge of undue precipitancy
with regard to the measure, that he would proceed from day to
to-day with that Bill till it was finally disposed of, and postpone
till then any proceedings on the Bill for protection to life inlreland