The Sun.
London, England, 1846-01-01 00:00:00

deliberative character," said Mr. HAWES, "he ought
to listen to argunlent; but if he went there and
said that nothing which he could hear would change
his opinion, he must necessarily lose dignity and
respect." Will Mr. HAWES tell us how often Mem-
bers of his Honourable House are convinced by
what they hear ? Is it not proverbial that their
minds are all made up before the debate
begins, and that the division-list, if made out
at the beginning would be, in ninety-nine cases out
of a hundred, the same in every name, as at the end
of the debate ? Mr. HAWES'S argument, then, is open
to the remark, that he makes more of his deliberative
character to his constituents than facts warrant.

Well, the pledge is refused, and in a little time
the Members for Lambeth are entrusted with a
petition praying for total and immediate repeal. This
acts like a spell, and Mr. D'EYNCOURT then comes
out like a man. He would say nothing "on com-
pulsion," but makes amends by now declaring, as if
suo motu, that, he intended to vote for the entire, un-
conditional, and immediate repeal of the corn-laws."
It must be allowed that that was not to be gathered
from his first speech. Well done, we say, electors of
Lambeth, a little pressing is a good thing.

We have given reports of the speeches and pro-
ceedings of two meetings for the protection of agri-
culture, one at Aylesbury and the other at Chichester.
The Duke of BUCKINGHAM presided at Aylesbury,
and the Duke of RICHMOND was the chief speaker at
the meeting in his native county, and considering
their wide-spread fame as " farmers' friends," and
their position as the leaders of the corn-law asso-
ciations, the exhibition made by them fell wofully
short of expectation, and manifested in the most
unequivocal manner the hopelessness of their cause.
We have searched in vain for arguments in the speeches
of the illustrious Dukes, and can find little else but
abuse of Sir R. PEEL, and mere assertions without
proof. RicumoND did not repeat his well-known
threat, that " he would undo the Minister" should
he dare to rebel, but BUCKINGHAM still boasted
of the power he and his friends possessed,
and could not conceal from them hisopinion that "the
agricultural body in the country had the power, if
they pleased, to crush and to defeat any attempt that
might be made to repeal the corn-laws." This
is a specimen of the mere assertions made,
but the proof is yet to be seen, and we have no
doubt that, in a few weeks, Sir ROBERT PEEL will
be able to show both these Noblemen that they have
greatly over-rated their strength, and that the time
is fully come for convincing them of the fact.

We have received Madrid journals of the 24th ult.,
but they are without interest. On that day the
Three per Cents. were quoted at 36i for cash, and
37 at 60 days-31 millions done. The other funds
were not quoted.

The Paris papers are chiefly occupied with the
elections for President of the Chamber of Deputies,
and the monthly committees, which, as stated yester-
day, have all gone in favour of the Government. But
a greater victory still was achieved on Tuesday, when
the vice• presidents and secretaries were elected.
Four Ministerial candidates were appointed as vice-
presidents on the first ballot—namely, M. BIGNON,
210 votes ; M. LEPELLETIER D'AULNAY, 202 ; N.
DEBELLEYME, 189 ; and M. DUPRAT, 188. The
Opposition candidate next on the list was M. BI-
LAULT, who had 152 votes. The Ministry were equally
successful in the election for secretaries. The fol-
lowing are the members appointed, with the numbers
in their favour :

Votes
Majority
M. de I'Espee l9B
M. Boisey d'Anglais
M. Las Cases
M. Lacrosse
M. HAviN (Opposition) had 160 votes, and M.
CORULLES only 54; so that the victory altogether is
decisive.

The following article in the Government paper,
the Journal des Debats, adverting to the triumph of
the Conservative party, was written before the elec-
tion of Tuesday :—" We take a note of the first suc-
cess of the Conservative party, but without trium-
phing in it ; for we believe that it has surprised no-
body. The position was so clear and the question
put forward in such a way that the result could not
he doubtful. On both sides there has been an ex-
ample of union and discipline. The Conservative
party had assembled all its forces, and the Opposition
had done the same ; consequently the contest was on
both sides as regular and open as it always ought to
be for the honour and sincerity of a represimtative
Government. It was, therefore, decided at the first
blow, and the Opposition may say just what it pleases.
We shall be told perhaps that if the Conservatives have
gained the day it was because the Opposition was willing
they should do so. We are habituated to arguments of
this kind, and estimate them as they merit. To us
the result proves only one thing, viz., that in order to
be the strongest party on every occasion, the Con-
servatives have only to do what they did yesterday—
remain united, firmly united, in presence of their ad-
With this condition they may be sure of
preserving their advantage. We have frequently said
this to our friends, and we are happy in being able to
give them this new proof of it. What we desire is,
that this first success may serve as a warning and en-
couragement to the Conservatives for the battles which
they may vet have to fight. The ballot for the nomi-
nation of Vice-President takes place to-day; and we
recommend them to come to the same understanding,
as to the candidates, as they did yesterday. Let them
be once more united; let them sacrifice the personal
dislikes and accidental differences of opinion that may
exist among them. Indiscipline and disunion might
not only compromise the success of the battle, but
tend also to embarrassments and resentments similar
to those which shackled the commencement of the last
session. GOD preserve us from again falling into
such a chaos ! We point out the danger to our
friends, and we reckon on their union and discipline
o preserve from it the Chamber and the session."
The Opposition writers know not what to make of the

versaries.

the business, and the National can find consolation
only in another panic, or some calamity. "The
Cabinet," says that Journal, "may triumph, sound
the trumpet, beat the drum, thunder forth its hymn
of victory. Its success of yesterday was complete,
magnificent, and even surpassing its hopes. M.
SAuzET was elected by a majority of 66 votes. The
Opposition is, therefore, beaten thoroughly, and
routed ; all that remains for it is to throw down its
arms and baggage, and surrender at discretion. Per-
haps M. DucHATEL, who is a feeling man, will give
mild conditions, if it thinks fit to capitulate. And,
after the check of yesterday, nothing else remains
for it to do. There are even in favour of this latter
party some strong reasons which we shall state in a
few words. First of all, to enact the Oppo-
sition, is a dupe's business ; and when a
dupery has lasted five years, they who still
adhere to it, may well merit a judicial decision
as idiots or spendthrifts. The chances of political
fortune may, without doubt, be tried when the forces
are somewhat balanced, and when a caprice of the
ballot-box offers a chance of overturning a Cabinet !
But, with an infinite, minority, the struggle is only
a folly. Remark, besides, the circumstances ; business
in general is bad ; trade suffers; money is exceed-
ingly scarce ; the panic at the Bourse, calmed down
for an instant, may return at the slightest incident.
But suppose that you have Northern, or Lyons, or
Strasburg, the fall carries off all hope of premium.
You hoped to gain, and you lose ; or rather no, you
cannot lose, but you shall not gain, and by your
own fault—by this mania of waging war against
AL G unoT ! to find that he governs ill, as if he
governed !"
The usual routine business took place in the
Chamber of Peers. The following Members were

appointed to draw up an Address, in answer to the
Speech from the Throne :—Count d'Argout, Count
St. Aulaire, Baron de Barante, Count Roy, Count
Portalis, Baron de Bussieres, and M. Girod

(de l'Ain).
We have given in another part of The Sun some
melancholy particulars of the loss of the Papin war-
steamer. The British Vice-Consul, we are glad to
find, was of great service on the occasion in saving
many lives, and warm gratitude for his conduct is
expressed in the French accounts published by the
Government journals.
The three Councils-General of Agriculture, Com-
merce, and Manufactures, held their second general
meeting on Monday, M. CUNIN-GRIDAINE in the
chair. The question under discussion was the reduc-