The Sun.
London, England, 1848-05-19 00:00:00

Mr. HUME said that the House annually resolved,
that bribery and undue influence in elections were in-
fractions of its privileges, and the question now was
merely whether they would pass a Bill confirmatory of
their own resolutions. The only object of the Bill was
to institute an inquiry into the practices which had been
already partially developed before Parliamentary Com-
mittees, and on this ground he trusted it would meet
with the approval of the House.
The gallery was cleared for a division, but none took
place. On our return we found
Mr. J. STUART attempted to address the House,
but the impatience ,for a division prevented his obtain-
ing a hearing. The lion. Member moved the adjourn-
ment of the House.
After a few words from Sir J. HANMER,
Mr. DISRAELI said that the House had a right to
expect some explanation from the Government as to the*
withdrawal of the Horsham Bill before it came to
division on the present measure. It was rather a new
practice for Government to introduce a measure in-
tended to legislate for the House itself, and then stid;
denly to withdraw it in deference to the peoposition
one who was pleased to call himself a private Member
of Parliament.
Lord J RUSSELL—It was very difficult for him to
say what were the circumstances which the Honourable
Member wished to have explained. He (Lord John
Russell) had thought that when the Horsham Bill wifi
before the House sufficient explanation bad been E
state
The question was extremely simple, but be would stl
again in a few words what was the position of that DI
and of the present measure. When the case of florsbino.
was before the House, and when the House decided the;
the writ should be suspended, he was asked
persons, both those who agreed to and those who °prg
the suspension of the writ, to introduce a Bill upea t
subject. He was not very willing, but consents;
in obedience to the generally expressed wish. Is!ten
wards, however, there occurred other cases, Wet'
that of Derby, in which the writs were also susPenu it;
and the names of more were mentioned in which it:l3.
likely that special reports would be made. The
Bart. (the Member for the Flint boroughs) tjadertoS),,
to bring in a Bill which should include all, and pro°
for inquiry by means of a commission. On considiel;
by savers!
tion, it appeared to him (Lord J. Russell) that to•
all in one Bill would be the better mode of proceedidi
He had had, twenty-five years since, some experiesce:d
inquiries into the corrupt practices of boroughs. tie
knew very well that after a Committee and the ."-(:).-00
had been satisfied of the prevalence of bribery, 'e.
House of Lords called for further evidence, s'd gel'e
rally threw out the Bill. It was evident, therefor
that the mode olfarretdorweshsatformerle practised was gars.,
likely
tiio
Sudbury,wtoa efawsi
similar
was
and that thathpardo phoe-s'oend dboyoteh
ieriag 'e • f
the only one calculated to Bill,
are
evidence which should be satisfactory to both u-▪
bs
If the House should see fit to reject this nott
(Lord J. Russell) could then proceed with hie "pie
Bill, which, although not so good, might still afford 10,0
means of useful inquiry. lie thought it desirable toeor
the House should come to a decision, there being two,
three writs suspended. If the House accepted theesore
there would be good reason for continuing the 5"-' 111
sion, while, if they rejected it, there would be Letl,„" to
strong and constitutional reasons for causing °Q.--
issue.—(Hear, hear)
-rs.e* and
Mr. HENLEY was not surprised that the tltre
Learned Member for Newark had moved the auerb-See
went of the House, seeing the clamour that 0;1, of
raised against hem by the immediate sueP°rt'ssgoet
Government. If the Hon. and Learned Merobereoo'
to a division he (Mr. Henley) should support the n 3"
The House divided, when there appeared-- 4,
For the adjournment "-
Against it .... 3l 46
Majority .
The House then divided on the second reading'
there appeared— 10
Ayes
Noes
eeseellS
Majority
The Bill was accordingly read a second,
ordered to be committed. 1141" et
ENCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) ',sell',
reading The of in order he
SOLICITOR-GENERALtt it might
mmovhetd the litte"
be 0°3031,0'
pre forma, with the view of introducing son
°
ments. 00,
After a conversation as to the propriety of tbetces t l°
Mr. BRIGHT expressed a hope that the d°eoPidsil,
tention would be given to this measure, for he co
that Dv
on legal authority entitled to the highest respect,dterses
measures that could be devised for Ireland Weltrie of eo
useful unless facility were given for the tratts' j
,e 0 n,',
cumbered property.—(Hear, hear )
Mr. STAFFORD concurred fully in that °PiDeitrei 01
assured the House that no measure was wore -itetheel
desired by those whose wishes ought to be con the
Lord LINCOLN likewise agreed in thinking reed
one of paramount importance; but before they eripeetlh'p
its second reading on the terms proposed, be. lot
have an assurance from the Government
amendments proposed to be introduced were
prepared. 00,1,
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13S Si
furtherE
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methat
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course of preparation, and weele:ghtatoeuhseerragedsetdsa,rudlyi:bedoe 03bilitiesocil
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secoonndthtiemme,otainond oorfdAei ed to be committed on reod
debate on the resolutionsNAVlGA TrelsOpeNct.iLn:WtheS.noite.e:oll)"
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wasu postponed
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SLAVE TRADE COMMlTTO'epbstel
Committee
e-nomination of Mr. Cardwell on t
. on. the slave-trade
opifreoLtsnhosderatdchyeoinsuna4 PALMERSTON said, thatn as he and
,flub a i/
was the opinion of several Members that theo-pld: 0
submits
Committee.
oosdenahiomhsuteiilntdreteetaebd.meeooitbninecinTr
be added to thet A to
et, Idt",01/
Mr. CARDWELL understood the N°,'""le ) estie-ele
withdraw the objection to his (Mr. Cerafitils• es",te
being added to the Committee. He We," -11101 cia
ioLnoortdhawmouerldchaalosotswoiftLhdivraerwpotohle,
tihmaptutthaetyion eeiptere°ed
wee 0) bei,seer,
the iniquitous slave-trade. He (Mr. Card the tbe
to state, that, so far from that being the cesVe tarter
chants of Liverpool were most interested in lwd froft
sion of the traffic in slaves, because they fouled orl
eerie te,
penance that where the slave-trade was
timate commerce languished. irePti
Ap 00 Ato
Lord PALMERSTON said he had Ina",:eii Ye' ;001,
tion; he had merely stated facts which he ge'-rool
true; and, therefore, he was not now geirig, fefereei
his former statement, that there was sent il°74 oe
a vast quantity of commodities which fond for so loss
to the sweet of Africa and were exchanged to di111:0116
If the Honourable Member was prepared la be ;eV
that fact, then he (Lord Palmerston) shculeet
ready to withdraw his statement, which asthe
contradicted. goree tiitos
Mr. CARDWELL did not deny the , sir
exports of Liverpool did find their weer, bil,;o3ere;pito
Liverpool
to the coast of Africa; but to this 1,1,0111 "efae jls"
of Liverpool were no parties He ensPhe"--0
that any person in Liverpool.was interested 1
onaiAl floe'
tr
Member oe:rodndPahAye
iLtoogMaoEdhßd
the
edoCmNoi
Committee,
ansl hadßitot
ewneoi
Bowes.
.obit eb eti °pit; et tnt Idi 75
After a few words from Mr. Ileurelet. 1111 "00°4• 0
The Earl of LINCOLN said that be "1 eau& pot
Noble Lord opposite had been an unsuceeseef°, could, be,
for Lirerpool, and had he been otherwise " '.o°l
oheauvsee,reoporehsiesnotwedotphreinfooirpelleg,n affairs of the clo°rl3 l'ifdeer,Yl3.
was unfit to sit on a Commiitft.
was assuredly unfit to carry out the laws Plieter.) estr
suppression of that trade. (Hear, and laug been a 00
oeeeroi., beenpe
Lord PALMERSTON said he had
didate for Liverpool. His name bad certat
..t,/,turste,
ap there by the electors, but if he had been 113iglis't for
should have declined to sit for that borough'sernbe
Ole
that honour, but should have remained the
eteheonfetinheber3lifsseedllOr °3.
dad °sloe
the borough' he now represented.
The motion that Mr. Cardwell" name h-nen.he el°
Committee was then put, and agreed to. es- 0-50'
that Sir E. Buxton be added, es c°l3„fiereii
Mr. JACKSON, adverting to the pre Y`° pool
tion, remarked that the merchants of Licer.rii reso colt'
received orders from the Brazils for rune jeore,o,
tures, which they forwarded. They were Paripfen,4l
netted with the slave trade than were the Ircier!ilPtss'
of the goods so ordered. The law made
1
el 10 be
deal in slaves, and if boy was engsg .00
traffic the law ought to bey put in force. .isfon cote
Captain PECHELL expressed the vela the
rd
felt that Admiral Bowles would be added $
10
mittee. Sob pie
(Palmerston) had
OshNoEwossaoidmothohatraosd btli.;_steeutrot?ip.sli
he hoped the Noble Lord would not hesneeet i.l:
if not withdraw, what he had said with "4" eottuple,.
merchants of Liverpool. There could be.ll;to tbeA let!,
goods shipped by them found their eral ioneeet;elo
market; but to charge them with being eio sbet Ifs
the slave trade was as unjust as to We esesileeirol
against the proprietors of the Manchester e-tifecte
cause they conveyed the goods when 01° oft
had
Liverpool for shipment. 11 be gee e)P
Lord PALMERSTON observed that all bri toed
on the former evening had just in sub °;;;. ceis.)port
peated by the Right Hon. Gentleman (-"'' •
if it
C
who admitted that from Liverpool goods or
which eventually reached the slave marlteht' orneltes,;
The conversation here dropped, and h'.geoilittilel4tit's
E. Buxton was ordered to be added to the collie-0111 p
QUOAD SACRA CHURCHES IN 5.„e• in 1164 410
Mr. COWAN moved for leave to brte'eifferjosr
provide an :equitable arrangement of th wolf
Scotland affecting churches and chapels cote
tba
by the term of quoad sacra churches. 00
Mr. DUNCAN seconded the motion.
codo',
The LORD ADVOCATE opposed the Jo ore/0:
ground that the matter was now before tuti°, sir L.OOll
After a conversation, in which Mr. Wino, vsit"o
and Mr. F. ISlaule took part,
KITCHEN AND REFRESHM" ctsodio.gs of tiot
them otio_T 3100 col;
That 7011'seasell'or'
Mr. STAFFORD moved—"
mittee be appointed, to control the *rn
kitchen and the refreshment rooms
et '
of the Sergeant attending
Stafford, Alderman IlumpherY, Lord isse. Tbeeot
this litokiles VriroisifitilsrdOotti
Captain Berkeley, Mr. naStie, a
_orap.oto rt. Ae
V. Dawson, of whom three shall bee
_!0_40:0
be an instruction to this Committe to cos
Cet7oo
,t.
such of the recommendations of the Select ore
ettepst.le",
• •to the proPosei ru" tee
appointed to inquire in oi,eas ens yee
of the kitchen and eating and acco
0, coobsetber
Members and officers of the House
reP°l4 W Pre its'
New Palace of Westminster, and to theere es,
duties 01 OP—
saynsdtewmhaotf imeopprpolvyeimogenrtesfcreosua be reuittewhe°ol.,6-e/PlO4
letructed to iaquire into the .
rigout
Arms of this goof, sad Os