The Sun.
London, England, 1870-06-10 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

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HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY.
The Rouse of Commons re-assembled this afternoon
after the 'Whitsuntide recess.
The Speaker took the chair at four o'clock.

NEW MEMBER.
So VISCOUIIt MAHON took the oaths and his seat for East
'3liffolk.

LATE SITTINGS OF THE HOUSE.
'lt GILPIN gave notice that to-morrow he should call
attention to the unusually late sittings of the House
ding the present session, and also ask whether some
tan could not be devised to prevent opposed business
being taken after 12 o'clock at night.
NORWICH VOTERS DISFRANCHISEMENT

BILL.
Da BILL.
gave notice that when this bill came
Under the consideration of the House he should move that
the Lords' amendment be not agreed to.
INDIAN FINANCE.
The motion standing in the name of Mr. Fawcett has
been
Postponed until the Ist of July.
WASTE LANDS.
Alt WALSH asked the Secretary to the Treasury
whether it was the practice of the Commissioners of
woods and Forests to permit encroachments to be made
111 those wastes of manor in Wales of which the Crown
Was lord, on condition that the encroachers paid either the
estimated value at once or an annual rent calculated at 5
P cent. on the estimated value; and whether, if this was
the caae, he would take steps to put a stop to the practice.
STANSFELD said no such practice existed. Where
encroachments did take place the rights of the Crown
111.%"e always taken care of, and the interests of the Cora-
dulY protected.

kr A CHARITABLE TRUSTS ACT.
• JOHNSTON asked the Secretary to the treasury,
whether any, and if any, what steps had been taken to
cart'
r„ out the provisions of Section 16 of the Charitable
"'rusts Act 1869.
STANSFELD said under the section referred to, a
sue of fees had to be prepared. That had been done,
and it Was now under the consideration of the treasury.
~TrTHE GREEK CONSTITUTION.
• --LONK asked the Under Secretary of State for Foreign
r Affai
table s, Whether there was any objection to lay upon the
of the house copies of any despatches which had
been received at the Foreign Office since the year 1861,
from her Majesty's representatives at the Court at
Athens, and from the Courts of France and Russia, point-
,°, out how ill suedl the existing Constitution was to the
Greek nation .
I‘ll% OTWAY said there were no such despatches. The
communications that had taken place on the subject were
collffdential and could not be laid before Parliament.

INDIA.
"state
lIAVILAND-BOURKE asked the Under Secretary of
upon-ate for India whether there was any objection to lay
Court
the table of the House a copy of a letter from the
°llll of Directors of the East India Company, dated the
v: of May, 1766, and referring to the duties of the De-
, of the Provinces of Bengal, Behar, and Orissa ;
De-
an-1,11113r,
el;Zalso a copy of the letter from the Governor of Cal-
""a to the Court of Directors to which the above letter
la reply.
GRANT DUFF said there would be no objection to
ve the papers.

TIM APPOINTMENT OF MR. LOWRY.
4 reply to Mr. WEST,
Thebe SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that no compromise had
beep
come to in this matter. The Government had a
eli'illialete answer to the matter, and therefore it was not
„ e faet that there had been any amicable arrangement
,okie to.

BRIDGWATER ELECTION PETITION.
In reply to Mr. LOWTHER,
beep BRUCE said no memorial from Mr. Fennelly had
received, or was under the consideration of the
°llle Office

GUN LICENSES' BILL.
Ih reply to lu „ur x. C. READ,
take the Gun Licenses' Bill after one o'clock. (Laughter),

oIISTOMS AND INLAND REVENUE BILL.
1 the motion for going into Committee on Customs
'lid Inland Revenue Bill,
Olt CRAWFORD moved an amendment that provision
Befellid be made in the bill for the drawback of the amount
•,'" the duty reduced on such duty-paid sugar as remained
if
-2flailY bonded warehouse on the close of Tuesday, the
1,7 of April, 1870 ; on the stocks of manufactured
sugar, other than refined sugar, or sugar equal in quality
thereto (entitled to the drawback of 12s. the cwt.), being in
quantity not less than 100 cwt, and in packages unbroken, in
the 'ands of refiners and dealers, on the close of Tuesday,
e 12th April 1870, in places where there are Customs
kith • . '
? orates ; and on stocks of sugar under process of ma-
all'aetnre on the premises of refiners on the close of Tues-
-IY, the 12th April, 1870, which can be identified to the
tisfaction of the officers of her Majesty's Cus-
t4
:118*ourse The honourable gentleman said that the
which he asked the House to take was
"etly
tc in accordance with precedent, and he referred
the".e In point, going no further back than 1845. At
Budget
U1:floe the Chancellor of the Exchequer unfolded his
he ventured to point out the great injustice that
would be done to dealers in sugar and the refiners, if they
were
re left to bear the burden of the loss which would
e eostiined by their sugar being brought into competition
NyThit,,h engar on which had been paid a lower duty.
Chancellor of the Exchequer had met to a certain
e 8„-exit the case by agreeing to allow the holders of other
fgaz than refined sugar, a drawback equal to the amount
4.difference of the amount of duty less the sum
c1131:d by Government as equivalent to the ex-
es holders of that sugar would have in-
h _ed if they had sent it abroad. The hon. gentleman
p'ever, condemned this plan, and called it a subterfuge.
t,,cirew attention to the case of a sugar refiner at the
°
end of London, who had in the Queen's warehouse,
I;h.the 11th of April, 631 hogsheads of molasses, upon
ae icla be had paid duty to the extent of 3s. 6d. per cwt.,
The
°R the following day the duty was reduced to Is. 9d.
but refiner claimed to be entitled to receive a drawback,
'e was told that he was not entitled to any drawback
th ateVer• What was wanted was time to have enabled
holders of stocks of sugar to get through them by the
°Nyrtt,al7 process of consumption. The circumstances under
Werl a the sugar trade in this country was carried on
re e not always alike. In London, for instance, the
Beale ra held not only their own stock, but the stocks of
th:;re• In Bristol the case was exactly the reverse, and
mefore it would be difficult to apply a general law.
r• RA.THBONE seconded the motion. He expressed
OosZinion that the information which the officers of the
v .ins had given the Chancellor of the Exchequer was
ioe imperfect, and they had shown themselves deficient
es°nrco and judgment.
CrittillAm also urged that the drawback should be
an a: ect Ile did not see there was the slightest difficulty
haeertaining the amount of the stock of sugar in the
The of dealers upon which they asked for the drawback.
takeshwd of persons with respect to Income-tax was
' alld be could not see why it should not be to the
extent with respect to the stocks of sugar.
Mr ANDERSON was in favour of the motion of the hon.
member for the city of London.
Mr.
fillers L I.IBK said the result of the proceedings between re-
Zetti aod dealers was that the public had been prevented
as the benefit of the ss. reduction. He thought that
cis 'o ere had
been a speculation trade carried on the
h:ahoeellor of the Exchequer would maintain the position
lvtrd taken with respect to the proposal now made.
sugar
oIORLEY said he was quite sure that the price of
wnreafell to the exact amount of the duty remitted in the
h);°tlhaahs trade, but he could not go to the length of say-
tbnt the some movement took place in the retail trade.
drawh-ught it a matter of justice as well as policy that the
mr.ack asked for should be given.
wfaavBo:o:.
eM:atfigni:itanci,otAiolnr.. Grieve, and M. Graves were in
wieh to CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he did not
any damage upon trade, nor did he think he
t,
boar
to the charge of having misled persons engaged in
the
jar trade. On the contrary, he had stated that he
b°llt to make great reductions in reference to sugar.
a,ny lle acrogoed that there was a precedent against making
anncession to dealers. If the motion of the hon. gen-
tle-
as Zell were adopted he saw no reason why retail dealers
eatege as wholesale makers, should not be included in the
ala,rmir: • The motion, if carried, would create a most
fereilee g and dangerous precedent.- The real dif-
between
,Le dealers b him and his hun. friend was as to
niade cone ' "wise, as to the refiners, he had already
ecolfusion eesi°oe• It would entail enormous expense and
cheek _ ve'r and no Customs department could exercise that
Weulduhe the stocks in the hands of the dealers which
lir, 13 A absolutely necessary in justice to the public.
"zu-ACk thought that a Minister should, before any