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TIIE SUN LONDON, FRIDAY. EVENIN3, FEBRLJAI,V 20, 1846.

The CHAIRMAN explained that the directors had consi-
dered themselves liable to the provision of Bth and-9th Vic ,
the Joint-Stock Companies' Act, and their proceedings,
therefore, would not have been legal without complete re-
gistration.
Several shareholders expressed their perfect conviction of
the eligibility of the gentlemen for the offic3 they sought,
on the ground that the business of the Company had been
well managed; that Mr. Arbuthnot and Mr. Binney were at
the head of large Indian commercial firms, that Mr. Ackworth
and Colonel Abdy had both had great experience of Indian
affairs—the former as a member of the bar of high standing,
and the latter as a military man, who knew the country well.
After those observations, the candidates were unanimously
elected.
Captain Ommaney and Mr. Gowan were re-elected
auditors. By the statement of accounts distributed at the
meeting it appeared that the amount received for deposits
was 1,675/. 10s., and the expenses 2341. 15s. 2d., leaving a
balance of 1,4401. 14s. 10d. to be carried to the next account.
Thanks were voted to the Chairman and Directors, and
the meeting separated.

THE .LINENDRAPERS AND SILK-

MERCERS' INSTITUTION.

The fourteenth annual Court of the Institution was held last
evening at Exeter-hall.
Mr. PEARCE, the President, took the chair at half-past
seven o'clock, and called upon the secretary to read the adver-
tisement calling the meeting.
The SECRETARY afterwards read the report of the directors
for the past year, stating that the capital stock of the institution
ameunted to 16,8471. Three per Cent. Consols, and 10,0001.
Three-and-a-Quarter per Cent. Consols, besides a sum of 2441.
in the hands of the treasurer, showing a slight increase over last
year. The report further stated that seventeen applications for
relief had been received and met, and that a total of 4591.
12s. had been expended in annuities and temporary relief, most
of the sums being upwards of 30/.
Mr. FAIRBANKS then came forward, and moved, according
to notice,

Ist. That the secretary should be requested to put up in the
ballot-room_ a list of the names of the directors, and the times
they have attended the Board ; and, 2dly, that the class and
name of the medical attendants, a list of the cases, and their
nature, attended on by them, should be printed and circulated
among the members of the institution.
The first of these motions was before the Court for some
time, but was ultimately lost. Mr. Fairbanks withdrew his
other motion, as he had heard it was impracticable.
Mr. SILWALL moved the following resolution :—" That this
Court, agreeing that an'asylum, as projected in a circular from
the Secretary some time since will be for the interest of the
institution, recommend it to the reconsideration of the Board."
The gentleman supported his proposition on the general
grounds of benevolence. and on the necessities and grounds
peculiar to the class of trades connected with the Institution.
Several gentlemen, directors, and members of the Institution,
expressed their opinion of the proposition, and
The SECRETARY, as the originator of the scheme, was
called for by the meeting to set the reasons before them which
had induced him at first to commend it to their attention. He
said, the conclusion to which he had come, andwhich they might
be astonished at, was derived from experience of other trades
as well as their own ; and he had to say that he did not think
there was any class of trades more asleep to their own interest
than theirs. He believed that the class of trade to which he
belonged had the means and the power, but neither had been as
yet called into action. Others far inferior in these had accumu-
lated great advantages for themselves, and conferred immense
benefit on the public—he begged to refer to the licensed
victuallers. Under that' conviction he was earnestly desirous
that their energies should be called out. Since publishing
his scheme he had heard arguments which had led him to re-
consider it, but he still clung to what he had proposed. He
would specifically observe, however, that it would be the ob-
ject of those who adopted his proposal not to impair or to
clash with the object of those who were the originators
of the Institution—( Hear, hear,)—but he felt it was
perfectly practicable to get a large fund without infringing
at all on the institution. The asylum, he said, which he pro-
posed, would not be confined to the members of the Institution.
He wished that it should be open to the trade, and that every
person in the trade who gave one guinea should have a vote in
filling a vacancy. He hoped in this way to make the scheme
more popular, and he believed the effect would be to excite more
favourable attention to the Institution itself.—( Hear, hear. )
The discussion having been continued some time longer, the
motion was put, and carried by a large majority.
It was moved and seconded that the thanks of the Court
were due to the medical staff of the Institution, which was
carried unanimously.
A vote of thanks to the directors and to the president were
severally moved and carried unanimously.

ASSIZE INTELLIGENCE. -
NORTHERN CIRCUIT, Lancaster, Feb. 18.
CROWN SlDE.—(Before Mr. Justice PerrEsoN.)
John Walton was indicted for cutting and wounding Wm.
Parker, a police-officer. There were two counts in the in-
dictment, one charging an intent to do grievous bodily harm,
and another an intent to resist his lawful apprehension.
Mr. Brandt conducted the prosecution. The prisoner was
defended by Mr. Bliss.
The prisoner, it appeared, lived at Briercliffe with
Extwistle,' and in consequence of some previous breach of
the peace, a warrant was issued for his apprehension, which
the officer, on the 25th of September last, proceeded to exe-
cute. The prisoner's house was a small cottage, consisting
of two rooms, one above the other, the communication be-
tween them being by a trap-door and a ladder. The officers
went to the house about two o'clock in the morning, but no
attempt to enter was made till about seven o'clock, when the
prosecutor went to the door, and on trying it, was answered
from within by the prisoner. Some little time after an in-
spector of police came to the house, and, going to the door,
read in a loud voice the warrant for the prisoner's apire-
hension, and demanded admission. No reply being given,
the officers were directed to break open the door. On getting
in they saw the prisoner's legs at the trap-door leading
to the room above. His wife and two children were
below. The prosecutor, Parker, ascendld the ladder.
and had got,close up to the trap-door, when he saw the pri-
soner aim a blow at him with a hatchet. He stooped his
head and the blow missed. Another blow, however, struck
apparently with the flat side of the hatchet, fell on the crown
of his head, and he dropped from the ladder into the arms of
another officer. He was for some minutes insensible, but so
far recovered as to be able to assist in the other steps which
were taken to secure the prisoner. He had received a slight
cut in the lower lip, so slight, however, as to make it seem
NlligtilAkitll.llll: 'III mill Lim the 'Officers
again attempting to obtain an entrance, the prisoner threw
stones at them through an aperture in the floor, on which the
inspector directed his men to throw some stones against the
window of the upper room, so as to draw off the prisoner's
attention. The prisoner, however, finally gave in, and was
taken into custody.

Mr. Buss, for-the d. fence, contended that the very slight
wound on the prosecutor's lip must have been caused by his
striking the ladder or the wall in his descent—certainly not
by the hatchet which the prisoner held. The Learned Coun-
sel went minutely through the whole of the evidence for the
prosecution, contending that there was not satisfactory evi-
dence to show even that the prisoner had been guilty of an
assault, and urging that, at all events, he could not be found
guilty of the felony.
Guilty of an assault, sentence deferred.
James Briggs was indicted for a similar offence.
Mr. Hulton conducted the prosecution. The prisoner was
defended by Mr. samshay.
It appeared that on the 22d of September last the prisoner,
with two other men, was met in one of the streets of Cli-
theroe by James Clegg, police officer, and another officer of
the name of Myers. The prisoner was carrying a bundle,
and was in company with two other men. On seeing the
officers the parties turned down a yard and endeavoured to
escape. The officers followed and Clegg seized the prisoner,
who threw down the bundle. He struggled for some time
with the officer, and the latter then perceived that he had a
knife in his hand. Clegg warned him not to use it, and
tried to get it from him, but the prisoner succeeded in put-
ting it into his coat-pocket, open as it was. The struggle
continued, and the prisoner again drew out the knife and
struck the officer in the shoulder, piercing through his outer
and inner coat, and inflicting a wound about half an inch
in depth. Clegg then let him go, and he rushed towards
the place where the other officer (Myers) had in custody
another of the men, of the name of 13runskill. Clegg called
out, " He has got a knife," and Myers then let Brunskill
go, and joined Clegg in pursuit of the prisoner. After run-
ning about a hundred yards they came up with Jahn, and
finally succeeded in apprehending him, though not until
Myers also had been wounded in the leg. In the bundle
were found a loaf of sugar and some other articles, the pro-
duce of a robbery which had been committed in Cheshire in
the course of that night.
Verdict, Guilty. Sentence deferred.

and they were employed in that part of the warehouse in
which the truss had been deposited. He found a blue
package and a brown paper parcel underneath a box.
Charles Fowler, warehouseman to Mr. Stanley, 67, Cheap-
side, stated that the truss of linen-drapery was sent from the
warehouse, directed to J. Gosling, Margate, to be forwarded
by hoy, from Galley Quay. He believed the pieces of
calico produced were part of the goods which were contained
in the truss.
Each of the prisoners was identified as a person who
pawned some portion of the stolen goods.. -
They were all remanded.
GUILDHALL.
Mr. Benjamin Pavyer, type-founder, of Bartholomew -close,
was yesterday again brought up for final examination before
Aldermen Hughes Hughes and Lucas, charged with having
in his possussion several moulds which had been stolen
from Messrs. Figgins, of West-street, Smithfield.
Mr. Humphreys appeared on behalf of the prosecutors, and
Mr. Child for the defendant.
-At the request of Alderman HUGHES the evidence taken
on Friday last was read over, the purport of which has already
appeared.
Mr. Henry Caslon, of Chiswell-street, type-founder, stated
that the value of the mould was about 21., and if new they
would be worth 3/. each. It wax however, difficult for him
to give the value of second-hand moulds, not being a broker.
There was something peculiar in the make of one of the
moulds, but the rest were ordinary ones. If a man offered
him some moulds at the price of 10s., he would buy them if
he knew the party came by them honestly ; but if a stranger
came and offered them, he certainly would not purchase until
he had made some Inquiry. A purchaser of moulds must at
all times expect he would have to make some outlay before
they would become useful. One of the moulds had no nick
on it for the type when cast.
Two or three witnesses were recalled and questioned, but
their answers did not differ from the evidence already given.
Mr. Child then addressed the Magistrate on behalf of the
prisoner, and called several witnesses to prove the value of
second-hand moulds, and the price they usually fetched.
Alderman HUGHES committed the prisoner, and admitted
him out on his former bail.
WESTMINSTER.
AN IRISH Ferguson, an Irishman,
was charged with forcing his way into the mansion of the
Hon. Colonel Fitzgibbon, 64, Eaton-square.
From some unaccountable reason, the Colonel and his
family have, for the last two years, been constantly an-
noyed by the defendant, who is a perfect stranger to them,
and, although he has been repeatedly committed to prison
for the offence, he is no sooner liberated than he repeats the
annoyance. He stationed himself opposite the Colonel's door,
at nine yesterday morning, and, on four different occasions,
forced his way into the hall, on one of which he took the
liberty of laying hold of a medical gentleman who had just
been admitted on a visit to the family. On defendant's re-
fusal to leave the place, it was found necessary to give him
into custody. There does not appear to be the slightest ex-
cuse for his extraordinary behaviour, and one of the Colonel's
servants who gave evidence expressed his belief that the
man was not in a sound state of mind.
Defendant made a very incoherent address, and did not
deny the charge, but entreated that he might not be sent to
prison.
Mr. BURRELL ordered him to find bail for six months, and
in default committed him to gaol, at the same time observing
that he would have the benefit there of medical attention,
and that if a favourable report were made of his health he
might be induced to order his discharge at an earlier period
than that named.

CLE.RKENW WELL.
THE DEAD ALIVE.—Emily Elgo was charged with
stealing a quantity of wearing apparel, the property of Mrs.
Jones, of Dorset-place, Liverpool-road, under extraordinary
circumstances.
The prisoner, in December, 1844, was iu the service of the
prosecutrix, when she absconded with several shawls and
other garments. On the 31st of the same month Mrs. Jones
received a letter signed "Emma," expressing regret for
having stolen the articles, and requesting that she might not
be prosecuted, and inclosing the.duplicates for the property.
Some time afterwards a young Nyman was found drowned,
and the body lay for inspection. Mrs. Jones, fearing it
might be the prisoner, sent one of her servants to view the
body, and she returned saying it was the body of Emily
Elgo. The inquest was held upon the body, and a verdict
of "Found drowned" returned, when the body was
interred under the impression that it was the prisoner. In
the following May the same young woman who identified
the body met the prisoner in Bishopsgate-street. She spoke
to her, but the prisoner escaped. Since then the prisoner had.
been in situations, robbing her employers in the same manner,
wail she was apprehended by Sergeant Beadman, 10 E, who
said he could establish four cases against her. Three cases
were now proved against the prisoner, who admitted her
guilt, and she was fully committed for trial. •
THAMES.
A tall, portly man, named Richard Phillips, was brought
before Mr. Ballantine, charged with being drunk and dis-
orderly in Three Colt-street, Limehouse.
A policeman who has recently entered the force said lie
found the prisoner gloriously drunk and disorderly.
Mr. BALLANTINE—Where was he ? The policeman—
Stretched on the ground at full length.
Mr. BALLANTINE—Was he disorderly in that position?
The policeman—He was in a terrible state of disorder.
Mr. BALLAirristE—What did he eo ? The policeman—
Talking away like a good 'un with his face towards the sky.
Mr. BALLANTINE—He took it very easy indeed. What
did be say ? The policeman (in a low tone, and with an
appearance of great mode) said—Oh, Sir, it was shocking.
As people passed lie said, "There goes a b, and an r, and a w,
and an s," and everything else.
Mr. BALLANTINE—WeII, I suppose I must guess the mean-
ing of all those initials. He used very obscene language, I
suppose ?—" Very unseen language indeed," replied the
policeman, who descended from the witness-box very hastily,
with his mind apparently relieved of a great load.
The prisoner—Well, upon my word, I have no recollection
of being in the situation he describes, or talking as he says.
Mr. IttALLAsrristE—But he does recollect all about it.
What are you? Prisoner—A tailor by trade ; and I hope
you will look over this.
Mr. BALLANTINE—You tailors are an exceedingly trouble-
some race. Where do you come from ? The Prisoner—l
work for Mr. Donnelly, in. Oxford-street, at the west en°,
and live in that direction.
Mr. BALLANTINE—What business have you here ? The
Prisoner—l went to visit a publican in Three Colt•street last
night, and the liquor he gave me got into my head. I
thought I laid down on my bed. I hope you will look over
Mr. BALLAsurnek-1 wilt look over it if you will prornise
to keep at your aristocratic end of the town, and not come
here any more.
-The prisoner—l will, Sir. You shall not see me again.
Mr. BALLANTINE—Then go about your business.
A.NDSWORTH.
POACHING ON THE DUKE OE CAMBRIDGE'S PRESEAVES.—
John Toomes and Win. Frost, two notorious poachers, ap-
peared upon a summons charging them with beating for
game in.Combe Woods, which property the Duke of Cam-
bridge leases as preserves for game.
James Brockwell, an under keeper on Lord Spencer's
manor of Wimbledon, stated that on the sth instant, between
three and four o'clock in the afternoon, he saw the defen-
dants with another man go into some inclosed land called
Combo Warren Farm and Woods. He noticed them beating
about for game. They had two dogs with them, and Toomes
carried a gun. There is game there consisting of hares and
partridges.
The defendant Frost called two witnesses to prove that he
was not in the woods on the day in question, and as the
keeper admitted he might be mistaken in his identity, he
was discharged.
Toomes was convicted in a penalty of 10s. and costs, which
sum was paid.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, Thursday, Feb. 19.

Their Lordships assembled at Five o'clock.
THE ANTI-CORN-LAW LEAGUE.

Lord I3ACRE presented a petition from (as we un-
derstood) the county of Hertford, prayine. the House to
interfere in order to prevent the influence of the
Anti-Corn-law League at elections. He (Lord Dacre)
thought that this petition was deserving of the greatest
consideration. The petitioners prayed that their Lord-
ships would be pleased to institute an inquiry into the
practices of an association calling itself an Anti-Corn-law
League, in order to prevent their improper interference
at elections.
Lord KINNAIRD said that this was the second time
the Noble Lord had called their attention to the
proceedings of the Anti-Corn-law League. Those pro-
ceedings were not private ; the Anti-Corn-law League
courted inquiry, there was .nothing secret about them as to
the mode, to use the common phrase, in which they got
hold of the counties ; and he could assure the Noble
Lord that there was no danger of the 40s. freehold
electors being in any way assimilated to the 40s.
freeholders of Ireland. Men professing every shade
of politics, men belonging to every party, had bought
these freeholds, not for the purpose alone of furthering
the objects of the League, but because they wished to be-
come voters in the counties with which they were connected.
If the Noble Lord wished to go into an inquiry he would
be glad to do so. The Anti-Corn-law;League were only
acting legally and constitutionally in their present pro-
ceedings, and not like others who created votes and ex-
ercised influence in elections for far worse purposes. Was
it not notorious that Buckingham had become a nomina-
tion borough through one proprietor having purchased a
great number of houses to extend his influence ? If the
protectionists proceeded in their present course, and suc-
ceeded in getting a dissolution of Parliament, they might
succeed, through their nomination boroughs and county
influence, in obtaining a party adverse to free-
trade; but if they did, let them depend on
it, that instead of having a legal and con-
stitutional body like the Anti-Corn-law League to
contend with, they would raise into existence far worse
political bodies, and bodies that might seek to change
the constitution of the country.
MINISTERS' MONEY.

Lord CAMPBELL gave notice of his intention to
present a petition from the city of Cork in favour of the
abolition of Ministers' money.
CORN-LAWS.

The Earl of ROSEBERY presented a petition in fa
your of the total and immediate abolition of the corn
laws.
Lord REI)ESDALE presented a petition from North
umberland in favour of protection to agriculture, signed
by upwards of a thousand persons, and in doing so said
he wished to make a few remarks on what had fallen
from the Noble Lord (Lord Kinnaird) who had ad-
dressed the House. He (Lord Redesdale) was of
opinion that the Anti-Corn-law League was an
unconstitutional body. Though its proceedings might
be in agreement with the letter of the law,
they were contrary to the constitution of the country in
endeavouring to return county representatives to
Parliament. Was it not unconstitutional for residents at
Manchester seeking to return Members for Cheshire?
When he saw a body in London interfering to secure
the return of a Member for Hertfordshire, he said that
was an unconstitutional interference, and unless some-
thing was done by Parliament to check this, they would
have a number of persons creating an influence in the
different counties of England, contrary to the intention
of the Legislature, and contrary to the spirit of
the constitution. He denied that the manu-
facturers of Manchester had a right to inter-
fere in the election of a Member for a county,
That this interference was going on was as notorious as
the creation by the Duke of Bedford of the faggot voters.
He subdivided his property, so as to produce a number of
votes, and that was held to be an undue influence with the
electors of Huntingdon. Suppose the manufacturers of
Manchester came forward and swamped the constituency
of Huntingdon. That constituency would not then be pro-
perly represented. If they permitted this in one case
it would ultimately extend to every constituency
in the kingdom. Unless Parliament took proper
steps—should the matter not naturally drop—the
consequence would be that Parliament would
cease to be the most important body in the country. A
great deal that was going on in Ireland and in this coun-
try had a great tendency to lower Parliament, espe-
cially the House of Commons, because that was the body
more immeiiately attacked. It might be said, that if
the wants of the agitators were granted, this matter
would drop of itself. But that was not the answer
that should be given to such a case as this.
It was because they knew that their constituents were
against them that they endeavoured to deprive them
of their constitutional and fair rights, and the effect
of conceding Irish measures would only be an encourage.
ment to other agitators to look for the same. For
Parliament to be influenced in such a way, and by such
a course of proceeding, was contrary to the spirit of the
constitution.
Lord KINNAIRD said that it had been the practice
for years to make votes in that way, and, in fact, the
watchword with many agitating bodies was " Register !
register ! register !"—(Cries of " Hear,. hear.") Now
he wished to know what the Anti-Corn-law League
had done beyond that ? They attended to the
registry, and increased the voters, and the same
was done by all registration committees.—(Hear, hear.)
In Scotland it was only r,ecessary to .sell a property of
2001. value,—reserving the title-deed—to make an agent
a voter ; and such was certainly done by the Peers and
owners of lard. He agreed with the Noble Lord oppposite
that such was an abuse that required to be reformed.
He did not think it right ; but at the same time
the parties were justified in using _en —essestru tiontat
uiettilbW C"ca.o (1T hoar) rifivvovor,
he thought that all such practices would terminate with
a repeal of the corn-laws ; for after that time it could
not be of use to any party.
Earl GREY concurred to a great extent in the
observations of the Noble Lord opposite, that the
existence of such a power as was wielded by
the Anti-Corn-law League was a very set i-
ous evil ; at the same time, he should say that
he considered it as nothing more than the
symptom of a greater and more serious evil—
a grievance against which they had found it necessary
to take fresh measures, such as those the Noble Lord had
wentiened, in order to remedy it. The Noble Lord had
said, and said truly, that the extent to which the
grievance complained of had been going on in
this country and in Ireland was calculated to
lower the authority of Parliament; and he (Lord
Grey) should say that he cordially agreed in much
that had fallen from the Noble Lord upon the
subject. But what he (Lord Grey) would say was this;
that it was Parliament itself which had in a great measure
caused the evil, and it was not by the means his Noble
Friend had suggested that it C old be put an end to. It
was not by any measure of law that they could expect to
put down either the Anti-Corn-law League, or
the Catholic Association.—(Wear, hear.) The real
remedy for the evil
_lay in the hands of the

Legislature—by the Legislature taking the lead in pub-
lic opinion, instead of lugging behind. The Parliament
should not have waited, as it had done, to be compelled
by the voice of public opinion to al-ford remedial measures;
hut it should have been the first to have come forward
aud i ClllO,lO the evils complained of.—(Hear, hear.) It
was by taking timely care that all real evils should be
redressed that the Parliament need apprehend no turbu-
lence from the public. No man could feel more strongly
than he did the great increase in modern times of the
difficulties by which Parliament had been beset, but
they had drawn them upon themselves by delay, instead
of using their influence, AN hile they had the power to do
so, to prevent their existence. Again, he would say,
that it was owing to those courses, and not to the
Anti-Corn-law League or the Catholic Association, that
the evils complained of by the Noble Lord opposite
gained existence.
Lord ASHBURTON said, that if such were the opi-
nion of the Noble Lord who had just sat down, it would
also lead to the conclusion that it was perfectly legal
and constitutional for the people to join together and
raise a great league for the purpose of disseminating the
opinions that body entertained. If so, then, the public
were all on one side, and if the Parliament had been
lagging behind, as the Noble Lord had stated, no harm
could result, or there was no necessity to urge upon
them to do anything while the people did it fur
themselves. According to the doctrine of the Noble Lord
the people, in doing what his Noble Friend near him
had complained of, were only exercising constitutional
right. But in his (Lord Ashburton's) opinion, if this
unconstitutional interference with other constituencies
by the League had not taken place, and other counties
were let alone, then the real opinion of those Constitu-
encies wotild 1;e known to Parliament.
VAN DIEMEN'S LAND.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE postponed the pre-
sentation of the petition (of which he had given notice)
from the inhabitants of Van Diemen'a Land, respecting
convict labourers, till that day week, by which time
their Lordships would have had an opportunity of read-
ing the papers which treated of the colony.
RIO DE LA PLATA.
Lord BEAUMONT, in rising to move for the eorres.
pondence which had taken place between this and other
countries, with regard to the intervention in the affairs
of Rio de la Plata, trusted that he might be allowed
to place before their Lordships the circumstances
which bad led to this intervention.—(llear, hear.)
He was induced to review the motives which had
actuated England in this instance, because he considered
that the course the Noble Earl opposite (Lord Aber-
deen) had pursued was a most iirtpolitic otie, and at
variance with the principles which the Government of
this country had ever adopted. At the termination of the
war between the Brazils and the Argentine Republic,
qonventinn *as entered into in 1828, constituting an
Independent republic, under the name of Uruguay. By
the terms of that convention it was agreed as between the
two Powers of the Brazils and the Argentine Confede-
ration, that-Uruguay should be constituted an independent
State. To that convention the only names signed were
those of the Minister of the Brazils and of Buenos Ayres.
He would now proceed to explain the proceedings con-
nected with the pending dispute. This convention took
place in 1828, but subsequent to that period a serious
dispute arose between two parties in the Argentine Con-
federation. A war in consequence burst out between
these two parties, the one of which were known
by the name of Unitarians, and the other
as Federalists. General Rosas was at the head
of the Federal party, and the leader of the
Unitarians was Riviera,. About this time it was
well known that the President of Buenos Ayres
was assassinated, when General Rosas, at the head
of the Argentine Confederation, attacked Monte
Video. Everything was done to establiih order
in the Argentine Confederation, as well as with Monte
Video, but it so happened that a number of the
Unitarians, under the. head of General Roses, collected
anmade an attack on Monte Video. The Noble Lord
then proceeded to enter into the partieuhip of the sub-

sequent disputes, contending that the French had inter-
fered in a most unjustifiable and iinproper
manner. General Oribe had been freely elected
the President of the Banda Oriental, and had inter-
fered in the affairs of that republic against the Unitarian
party, who had fled from Buenos Ayres ; and, along
with some foreigners, had endeavoured to regain
their footing in the Argentine Confederation.
General Riviera expected to come to terms of peace
with Buenos Ayres, but he did not do so. He continued
to invade the Argentine Confederation. He was subse-
quently defeated, and in a short time General Oribe
succeeded in placing himself between Riviera and
Buenos Ayres. Oribe certainly invaded the
Argentine territory, but he did so for the sole
purpose of supporting the legitimate authority. It was
iu this state of affairs that the Noble Earl opposite, at
the instigation of the Viscount Abrantes, thought proper
to interfere in this matter. The people of Monte
Video were in favour of the legitimate autho-
rity. The party in the town who supported
Riviera was composed of a few French and Italians.
At one time there were only 180 of the inhabitants
armed, and shortly after that number was reduced to 50;
but then England interfered. But for this interference,
a perinanent peace would have ensued. Our interference
having come too late, the result was that we had
caused more bloody scenes than if we had not
stepped in at all. The object put forward
by the Noble Earl, amongst others, was to throw open a
certain river—the river Canava—for the benefit of com-
merce. Now this river belonged to the Argentine
Confederacy, and if this country thought proper to in-
terfere with the rights of that country, the
Americans might turn round and say that
they. would come crown the river St. Lawrence.
Again, he would wish to know whether there existed a
convention between England and France on the sub-
ject ? Could anything be more contrary to practice,
more dangerous than for two great and powerful States,
naturally supposed to be ambitious of conquest, to interfere
with States where the people were led to believe that there
existed no convention ? They acted without conven-
tion, or without any positive deed which could be shown
to be an instruction from the Minister. How was
France bound by any deed that she did not possess the
same dangerous and aggressive object ? There might
be an understanding ; but if there was, let it be
produced. Such a course of proceeding was most
ruinous to British commerce, as would be seen here-
after. He contended that such a course of proceeding
was followed up for the mere purpose of supporting a
faction—an armed and rebellious faction in Monte Video,
who were getting up every kind of evil passion ; and for
them alone had the British Government interfered
against General Rosas and the state of Buenos Ayres.
If they would allow him he would look into a document, the
only one that had been sent by the Governor, in explanation of
such extraordinary conduct. In the first instance, he stated
the determination of the Government to accomplish its object
by a coalition with France, with which country they would, if
necessary, unite their interests for the acomplishment of their
object. That was to say, in other words, that he had resolved
to enforce this declaration, which would in fact be a declaration

directly contrary to the laws of nations. The Noble Lord has
said that Buenos Avres had a right to wage war if it
thought proper. No doubt it had ; but this was not
a declaration of war by one nation against another—it
was more like an individual quarrel against their Argentine
allies. It was not a war against the Argentine State, but an
effort of that State against a faction of foreigners. General
Oribe and General Riviera had bees elected by the unani-
mous voice of the people, and gave every satisfaction, and
when both Governments had been established and settled, the
recommendation of the Noble Lord was, that both should be
upset, which- would of course involve the removal of those
two generals, and the result would he, not to establish a better
system of government, but to re-establish in fact this faction
of foreigners, for he knew of no others that could be sub-
stituted. Then he said that he would be prepared to enforce
the free navigation of the River Plate. However, the Noble
Earl seemed to have seen the errors into which he
had fallen when writing this dispatch, and in a further
dispatch he abandoned- the idea of expelling both
Governments. He had now stated, and stated very briefly, all
the circumstances which had led to the intervention of the two
countries. He had done so without reflecting on the conduct
of the officers and those who were engaged in those matters.
He had no doubt that they had acted according to the in-
structions received from the Noble Earl, and his remarks,
therefore, only referred to the Government at home. He re-
peated that he did not wish to infer anything against the infe-
rior diplomatic corps or the officers of the fleet. Before he
concluded, their Lordships would allow him to state that he
was not a mere- apologist for General Rosas. His sanguinary
disposition he (Lord Beaumont) believed had been enormously
exaggerated, and if the judgment of Rosas were measured ac-
cording to the scale of morals and opinions in that country, he
would stand forward far superior to the mass of those who had
risen to power. If the Noble Earl would call to recollection
what had taken place in Mexico and other republics, he would
see that General Rosas did not alone revel in those sanguinary

habits which were attributed to him by a publication printed in
Monte Video, and purporting to be the life of General lions.
The Noble Lord concluded by moving for the papers for which
'he had given notice.
The Earl of ABERDEEN said that the attention of his
Noble Friend opposite had been so often directed to the affairs
of the Turkish empire, that he trusted this diversion to the
western world signified that he had left things there in a
satisfactory condition. The Noble Lord had described the in-
terference of England and France in the affairs of La Plata as
unnecessary and unjust. He ventured to say, that if there
ever was a case in which proceedings of this
kind were justifiable, it was that which had taken
place with regard to La Plata.—( Hear, hear.) The
war had been carried on in a manner revolting to hu-
manity—a war which, in truth, had no national object what-
ever, was carried on on no intelligible or public grounds, but
was founded entirely on personal hatred and party rancour.
It was rare, indeed, that any war in his mind was just or
wise ; but this war in the river Plate was not only wicked,
but was the most senseless that had ever occurred. It had
been during the whole course of this war an object of Great
Britain to arrest, if possible its roirress. In 1841 the Noble
k cue Lail of Al:med....), the omen-
which he had the honour to hold, directed her Majesty's
Minister at Buenos Ayres to press the mediation of Great
Britain on that Gevernment, with a view of putting an end to
the hostilities which existed. That offer was refused. In the
following year an opportunity had arisen in which the united
proposal of England and France to mediate between the parties
would be attended with some success. That joint mediation
was strongly represented to the contending parties. It was
accepted readily by Monte Video, but was rejected by Buenos
Ayres. That was in the autumn of 1842, and the efforts of
this country were unsuccessful. For two years nothing was done.
Petitions had been presented to both the Governments of
France and England to interfere in order to effect a settlement
of the dispute between the two countries. The Noble Lord
thought they had gone out of their way to interfere in this
matter, but when it was considered how the state of things in-
terfered with the neighbouring States and settlements and af-
fected the commerce of that part of the world, he thought it
was right that some endeavour should be made to effect a set-
tlement. In 1844 the Governments of France and England
Were again implored to mediate, and the two Governments
agreed to offer their mediatiation a third time, and arranged
that if the parties world not agree to a peaceable settlement,
and if such was refused, then to coerce them into that step.
The attempt_was in vain, and accordingly instructions on the
part of the two Governments were sent out but those instruc-
tions evinced no hostile views towards General Rosas or to-
wards Buenos Ayres. The instructions were to act in a fair
and impartial spirit.towards both countries, and to use every
means to induce the Government of Buenos Ayres to
listen to their mediation. The offer was refused
and the ulterior steps complained of were then taken.
The people of that country thought that the interference of
England and France was not sincere in the matter. They had
since found that this union was established for no other object
than the bringing about of a lasting peace. He was happy to
be able to state, that whatever were the opinions of certain

parties in the United States, the Government of that country
had disavowed the acts of their agents in South America.
Although the Noble Lord had said that this country vas not a
party to the construction of that state, still it was carried by
the friendly interference of this country. It would be a most
unfortunate thing if General Rosas were allowed to take pos-
session of both sides of the River Plate. The Government had
no objection to General Riviera or General Rosas, provided
they had the support of the people, but this they
had not. General Riviera was the Lieutenant of General

Roses, and the troops were entirely under their control.
He wished to say a word as regarded the opening of the tri-
butary rivers—that would be accomplished lawfully and peace-
ably ; and he agreed with the Noble Lord, and had only to re-
peat the sentiments which he had often before uttered in that
House, namely, that to the navigation of the river referred to
by the Noble Lord, they cannot pretend to exercise any claim.
Such could not be established as long as they were negotiating
with Buenos Ayres, with which state he hoped they would
long maintain friendly relations. Very recently Genera! Roses
had made a proposal for a settlement, on grounds which were
then not admissible, but which, he hoped, would soon be ac-
ceptable. He hoped the Noble Lord would not think it neces-
sary to press his motion for the papers referred to ; and he
hoped also that the House would understand his (the Noble
Lord's) discretion in not entering into a defence of the conduct
of the Government, or of the character of the individual at its
head. Again, tinder the circumstances, he hoped the Noble
Lord would not press his motion.
Lord COLCHESTER would wish to say a few words on
this discussion. He cordially concurred in the intentions of
the Government of the country to close the warfare that had
been going on in the River Plate. The Noble Lord had stated
that he had two reasons for recommending this course, the one
was, the restoration of peace, and the other was, to provide for
the independence of that state. But he ( Lord Colchester) was
of opinion that the means which the Noble Lord proposed fur
accomplishing those objects was not such as, in his opinion,
would be likely to succeed. The Noble Lord had stated that
this was a war without an object, but he (Lord Colchester) did
not think that that was quite a correct description of it. He
would not trouble the House by going over again the details of
the Noble Lord ; but it was quite apparent from what
he had heard the Noble Lord state that the object of
General Rosas was to restore a friendly understanding
The Noble Lord then referred to a pamphlet he held in his
hand, from which he quoted the amount of the population of
Monte Video, and the other states, and then continued—lf
the *at had been brought to an end by the interference of
Great Britain, it would, no doubt, have been a desirable object;
but the result had only been, that a great falling off had taken
place in their trade with that country. The speech of the
Noble Earl that night might do much good ; for, of course, it
would be itnown oer the world. The Noble Lord then went
into an exposition of General Rosas' character, stating that he
belonged to a highly respectable family, and that he believed
the character of that General was as good and respectable as
many in this country employed in the most important offices.
When they considered what barbarities characterised civil wars
in all countries, and especially in Spain, they would view in a
different light the proceedings of General Rosas.
Lord BEAUMONT said, after the explanation of the Noble
Lord (the Earl of Aberdeen) he would withdraw his motion.
He hoped that the explanation he had given would go out to
South America, as it was calculated to do a great amount of
good.
The Duke of WELLINGTON wished to ask the Noble
Lord a question. The Noble Lord had said that Oribe was
the first president. If he (the Duke of Wellington) recollected
aright, General Riviera was the first president.
Lord BEAUMONT replied that General Riviera served
his regular term of office, and then a new president was elected
in a similar manlier to the President of the United States.
General Oribe was elected, but before he had fulfilled his
period, through the intervention of a French party, assisted by
others, who were opposed to him, he was expelled. He took
shelter in Buenos Ayres, where he was persued, the war being
carried even to the walls of that city. An independent state
was thus invaded, and it was in the retreat from this place that
Lavalle lost his life.
The motion was then withdrawn.

Messengers from the Commons brought up the Grand Jury
Presentment (Treland) Bill and the Drainage (Ireland) Bill.
SELECT COMMITTEES.

, Earl GREY gave notice that lie would neat week move a

resolution respecting Select Committees, in conformity with
the suggestion made to him by the Noble Duke opposite
(Wellington).
STATE OF IRELAND.

Earl GREY would take that opportunity of asking his
Noble Friend opposite what course, he intended to take, on
Monday, in moving the second reading of the Bill he had in-
troduced for the better protection of life and property in Ire •
land? He had understood that some intimation had been given
that a general statement would be made as to the policy which
the Government intended to pursue with regard to Ireland.

The Earl of ST. GERMANS said his Noble Friend had
given him notice of his question, and he had in consequence
communicated with his Right Hon. Friend at the head of the'
Government, and he had stated that he had given no intima
tion such as that to which his Noble Friend had referred. On
Monday next, however, he (the Earl of St. Germans), in
moving the second reading of the Bill which had been alluded
to, would endeavour to state the grounds on which her Ma-
jesty's Government were prepared to found the proposition for
that measure. It would be inconvenient for him at that mo-
ment to make a statement. It would be competent, however,
for the Noble Lord, when that statement was made, should it
not meet his approbation, to take other steps.—( Hear hear.)
The NOBLE LORD then brought up the report on the
Public Works (Ireland) Bill, which was ordered to lie on the
table.

The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the first reading of a
Bill for the revision of Charitable Trusts.
The Bill was read a first time.
The House then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Thursday, Feb. 19.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at ten minutes before
Four o'clock.

NEW MEMBERS.

Mr. T. O'BRIEN took the oaths and his seat for the
city of Cashel, in the room of Dr. Stock, who has ac-
cepted the office of Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds.
Mr. LOCKHART took the oaths and his seat for the
county of Selkirk.
RAILWAY BUSINESS.

The following railway Bills were read a second time.
and were ordered to be committed :—London and South
Western Railway (Farnham and Alton Branch) ; Lon-
don and Brighton Railway (East Grinstead Branch) ;
Manchester, Sheffield, and Midland- Junction Railway ;
Wisbeach, St. Ives, and Cambridge Junction Railway ;
and Brighton, Lewes, and Hastings Railway Devia.
Lions, and Eastbourne, Hailsham, Seaford, and New.
haven Branches.

The London and York Railway Bill was read a first
time, and ordered to be read a second time.
Mr. GREENE moved that no notice for a Committee
on a petition for a private Bill be received at the private
Bill-office which shall fix for the first meeting of sued
committee any day later. than Friday, the 6th daN of
March next. That no notice of pt,stponement of any
such Committee be received at the Private Bill office ex-
cept by V.e authority of the Ct,mmittee on Petitions tor
private Bills. That no private Bill be read a fir,t time
later than the next day but one after the report of the
Commttee on Petitions, or of the Standing Orders' Com-
mittee, on such Bill, as the case may be, shall have been
laid on the table, except by special order of the House.
That there be no more than twenty-one clear days be-
tween the first reading of any private Bill, not being a
railway Bill, and the second reading thereof, except
by special order of the House. That no private Bill,
not being a railway Bill, which shall now have been
read a first time, shall be read a second time after ten
clear days from this day, except by special order of the
House.--Motion agreed to.
Mr. WOOD presented several petitions in favour of
the West Riding Union Railway Bill from various places
in Yorkshire.