The Sun.
London, England, 1846-02-28 00:00:00

Lor M
1,18,nt the ember for Yorkshire (Lord 51orpeth) re-
.d his 51. note, and the Nlember for Stockport said that
his was worth 5,000 i., and he was right, because it gave
Ca4eP:wer which he had not possessed before. If the Hon.
Rtt- a° talked of delegates, he begged to ask whose dele-
%at Lw,.iaa. he ? He was not likely to undervalue the power of
t._gue of which so much notice had been taken, when he
grettvmat a position its influence and activity had reduced
atlod ittParti, and in what a condition the leader of that party
tatihii.,e,gard to the country. He sawthat the one was
(4. and the other dependent. Then again, if he turned
gtet!.hs, he weald ask them to show him the place where
ilkao4ll'l' election had been held anti he would show them
ate the 'there a proteetienist bad been returned. What then
amese of the 2,000 votes of which the Noble Lord opposite
thatealiVi magnificent boast? He would venture to as-
, he t (igh the constitution of this country was at
.pris-
,44iis:',„ Yance, that the people would hereafter arise to lend:-
the-jekcitY, and give their verdict in its favour. Let them
Zed the Zti:fndsetacretairtrikfoingl inliatnalca--the case of the Noble
That Noble Lord had
ittd"'" to the Ycourntre of Nottingham with the
esePPort of
"r led the Government, of which he was a
r-...h In ornament. He had everything in his
al h had charact bil t position, and support,
jhi:tt Bankes) believed tthlal his opponent had every
''htht a:tin:Lent in the county retained against him. He
t 4 st much about that—but what was th.eh relsultt
14PtIlort tiitte°l,d had gone down to the county wit
of
ikr4 Wit ante 't.inistry, and with a greater assurance
now
_ named even for the success of the measulre d cess
o_
4log 44 b. "e• He had expressed himself confiderit ye,tatnhe
tur earitten up to his friends in London—and y
ttooh, against him. There was, however, one very
that'
ic,ireurestaace. about this election. It was cur-
h44 f , although the opponent ef the Noble Lord to whom
4:1 °oterred bad been elected the day before yesterday, he
Yet made his appearance in the Howe,
"srd y lentleman who had been elected only
k'4l 1"k this night taken his seat. No doubt
lothiilfat, sincerity *and equal confidence he wro!e
1,11 tlisirriends in London that nothing could be more certain
ei:°l in sktteeee• The freeholders were every moment
with --slr adhesions, and the Been do not dare to inter-
-4sti9l, t,h bse
forection• —( Hear' hear.) And now, with these
ti
th
sea-e that tehe-eernfag'were they asking too much
alp, it was
,res, "d of Ireland did not depend on these
lot hay when it was conceded that there was ne net,
take' alarm, or anxiety ; were they, he would repeatre
Itit7„.'hotaa kng too much from the Government to require
447ety of beg Permitted to have the opinion of the whole_co
NI) e country expressed upon the measure.—(Hea.r,
nnitheernlembers had resigned their seats upon this
fiddle eost, had retained them, and some had adopted a
tki te fro,, ca anti finally resigned. He considered that a
I`.• l'fift seemed peculiarly applicable to the latter
411,1 e tined the halter, he traversed the cort,
telltat ~a4ld ftell WAAL leave, but seemed loath depart."
tvt. these Honourable Gentlemen in their seats thath
Cri 'Ton their side, hut honour seemed to be on
At
le
ti',4l,cs ichl• Gentleman having cited the opinion of -
I,i7e, by "eY on the cenduet of Members of Parliament, con-
tltthaVt %Ying that the learned author proclaimed the
- (" clef • who betrayed their trust,
. Members,
tt.4. '1 liy),Lnf,mha'a and hatred, and the assurance of being
rit,'D'eien-,"" constituents when next they sought the honour
etf -a-TR them —(Hear, hear.) However, the law was
1,,,,1t1e; -14" honour was the ther.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon.
Wolrerhampton, when he spoke last night, ex-
tt'et st seeing such a leader at the head ef the Go.-
titaHY,alierit he (Mr. Bankes) should agree with him, parrti..-
t4pe,,_ e asserted that the present was a great and cd
oi f
reaah`ed one that strongly reminded him of the period
a evolution between the years 1789 and 1 '9l.
eir (Mr Banker) thought he could And in the
t.eirned author,‘. who wrote most eloquently on that
'hit few
‘h.siti hi.►, statements that, in different language, would
t,'4llelt"l,l„,,ewil much more happily than he could hope to
takit'Ae,• With that view he opened ss Alison's Modern
11/0 -4
which he found these words :—" The existing
thetl 1' Physician would say, of the revolution
Itts,ll4clvlPre.4 of innovation, which, like a dread-
-011,1,1kt that time overspread the earth and precipi-
N4;:lteei!into a passionfor changes of which they were
stlid "ere th "ng the effects, and the most ardent in the
litthtie °se whom fortunes were about to perish." He
tit,,th"erds also, " The young nobles applauded without,.
r4tvie it,they themselves would be the first victims.
ti latr:-,ktnen Lord Lincoln, as well as now.—(Cheers.)
heZlitioi- gen as now, sons ranged against their fathers; and
tojhmischiefs the whole system of private
IttCr gin% destroyed.— Continued cheering.) . Tha same
*is 4t time wr,°,te, giving a description of the Prime Minister
t'/Ise tfis private character was unexceptionable ;he
?"! '
Jibe immense wealth; and he made a noble use of
ral without pride or prodigality, arid he would
ttlNiel,Pircect private citizen had it not been for a secret.
ktitiPliellblia"le him sacrifice everything to public popularity,
;14'2° tio,,,r°"ght on tmleard-of calamities. Had Turgot
c great and good ualities an adequate knowledge
*4'l4,pnv 4 bnature, he would have been a great and wise
Lti-,,',:theartafttnhaPpily he lacked that one great advantage,
!tti-erele • thereto hurried on those dangerous measures. He
'6llorant of human nature, and pursued his de-
'ii:"repar;ltt censiderin what effects they would produce."
Ose, Ttf these two Icharacters, as thus described by the
tit"'ound in them a wonderful resemblance to the
tei't !Ne Minister • and, ignorant though he might be of
10.41i4t.411, he vet charged the Right Hun. Baronet with
ll~hv:sttecti
n -erially . not only avoided but contrived to prevent
ipt,t;,‘lleort-ce,t? the public
.voice at a period when he should
rRd skrsinced of his error. It was through that Al-
"tlt • n:Y had laid down the law, as he had
to 4pt.,,°.' that book, but he did not contend
'
Who ;"4141 Parliaments, and there were many
kiMa"' °Pinions were changed upon this particular
-411 h ,%1 !Cr.) W here great changes took place in the
td he Public 51inister, it was advisable that her Majesty
l.kitdris4,(lsised (as he' had no doubt Lord John Russel'
)to appeal to the people. But then it happened
lat,Ah:°,Promisto took place between the two great parties
io,i, nad already alluded. He would now recur to that
es,_!t
,well deserved to be called—he meant the
t,h, Os ,te Right Hon. Baronet had addressed to her
0;, that the Bth of September last. At the very time
emllmunication was passing between the
hti!:\iai; taronet and the Queen, another one
.was pastime
ILe 'tY from Lord John Russell. The opinions of both
ytht tiloe.k.ust have been similar ,t for it was impossible
any one to hold office' that held other opinion.
dst ogee" huw lona had the Noble Lord (John Russell)
lkalat4o4 e,nsteeeuent'on the retirement of Sir R. Peel? Only
t,,„11,r, and he retired from the attempt to form a
Natitlt4 -I"se he hint confidence in carrying out men,
Iltitl fqr`',ll°, alonga(witoh Sir Robert Peel, considered ne-
-44,4 k e welfare of the country.—( Hear, hear.)
.Iu
l'elo:',„kitt:d"' the real cause, which the Noble Lerd hail him-
the was this --He' found, if he accepted office, anti
ek;`ter ..,41PPort of the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel),
ti,'oliewhi bring over with him but few of his sup-
(4,',llediii titeti the other hand, if the Right Hon. Baronet
• h4ers'ces he would secure so much more support on
tk;;° Notre side of the House to the proposed measures,
N',"nri e Lord could guarantee all his supporters on the
y..".,nf the House. This was the real history of
pittigl aid°'" giving up the attempt to form a Ministry.
the "t the Noble Lord, er the Right Hon. Baronet,
its s Th;;People, if they considered the country was with
t&kiaat't`hre9ot doing so showed that the voice of the people
to it 'c Proposed measures, and they were fearful ot
• tt
I,* He (Mr. Bankes) had been told that this
t;°,ll ~:cess expressed in another way—that is,
'rtilcrerraceseeted to that House. On that point, what
- wsthat night respecting petitions to Parliament
lii,)sraki-"It little weight was to be attached to them.
h44tgiven
had no reason why the Members of
e 3-n not stand face to face with their consti-
?iq6ttof they made promises, they should take careid
(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet la
C'diti,`,lllt2;` exaction of promises, but they should rezollect
Att,t4.l_l ;,iioaw_d custom of the country had been in favour of
at cif tk'Ought to be returned to that House, making
„lg b'„Y of „"eir political views prior to the election.. They
Flirt ta -"hination for the express purpose of questions
tsclndidates and for the purpose of enabling such
tf cblitlain their political principles to the electors,
s crs are to become se careful and chary of their
i;la4i'llcdP"-Imik°lll)ted if they would have so many supporters in
t4,ee juent--( Hear, hear.) He did not think voters
a'N•liCtitilt, °take Hon. Members according to their 10.0k5.-
I,latitlltset• Ftritatr.) They would still continue that incon-
‘ollL'rott?„e °f asking questions, and they would not only
Vass -nf telye answers to those questions, but also the per-
k -°" promises. It had been stated that during
.the
ls'tk,,t' to:rji incoln, an lion. Member waited upon hime,
tilt% e interested -in the affairs of Ireland, and h
44ett! aati a: the result of his interview, he was
Et. lc, ‘l4geid with the Noble Lord's opinions upon that
to -titlt_d Lord Lincoln depart from what he
-'1 the Hon Member who had waited upon
h,"Lt bound to' the performance of his promise,
ts not -I,"t also bound to the lowest man in the crowd .
"1: trltlt 15t'or man entitled to ask his epinion, and to
siihirse."kt"-r horn the candidate ? Was there any diffe-
lit'i erd hi'c station which enabled a person with impunity
licts,aatis.'t.Ptsomiseo and engagements ? Was there any
tt‘tlellt:l-Cita to attest a feeling of contempt because these
l•siii.,ll4%,tria(,,'"° made to a meaner class ?—( Hear, hear. )
la's,. cal*, ylsald receive from the people of England their
1%444 the bc•
l' Boroughs which were renovated, as it was
Itt4liti;(ll4:'ilr_if of the Reform Bill, would not he thus
',ear.) They would insist that their repro
to eseet", changed their opinions, should appeal again
tPrfo Wh" if they would be received with their alteretl
4. 4 ',is was he (Mr. Bankes) not allowed still
the "Is small borough which he represented
to Pestling of the Reform Bill ? Was
1t:i,41% ll' %Nide returned according to his opinion?
itte tr 14, 'red that a great deal of time and unnecessary
IttiNt inis'xilended i passing what has been called the
kt,t; iiii‘ttheyi;s":". had now the means of ascertaining the real
tes,4,lts thoult;'nerith respect to the present momennptioriujosnq,ues-
the
andsee whether,
htheye people's
(the protectionists)
Wss .at it expedient. •
• •than beneficial,
st th. seoald be far more injurious
1ti,,,a0 of at* °hsiction that had drivea them to oppose the
14e) Ind in so pertinacious a manner. 1, or the
'o‘4)*ht I (14,1 time, as well as fur miser reasonable pur-
N"ttitt.„'er resolved en takiag the division at this stage,
‘5;;, Thgte t,,Vght be the result, if they failed, they would
It to tc cot:siction of having honestly performed their
tr.Y regretted to see the union of men whoe
le , sin • .
tru. Prinetple ; whatever might be te r
cif (I' he ,^R'e here, he trueed that in another place ea
44- f deismdur- e4ed which would aford the people an oppor-
'4:Vest:Alen their feelings. Year after year, during the
t<satab'is Parliament, the votes would show that
h,ir sepi -r Ire immense majorities, would not sanction •
thet, ~t now proposed. He could not for a m.o.
• o.:,"gati* sue other House would refuse the exercise
hy,'"roord.e, by Causing an appeal to the people against
igltt t'stt'°.FT InirY and extravagant amours.
'tti 'so of enata„woald give his fate in support of the measure,
t's4,attrina the 'flec in the results of the future. He thought
_ t k_
7tv„‘ll „7,4 ru. features connected with the measure
I,"aisi"teWc° sight of in the debate, and that feature
It tithe sure as that now proposed be possibly
skrilefo'r,-"4k th„°l Hon. Gentlemen who talked so much'
tat,- tri„-ee of Prot
'armors' cause, who were so constant in
lacip ctelia4% were Qteetinn. and ho proposed to be the far-
ent,i. La to to tell him the troth and say that protec-
'444 1""ti to
tne.intained, the 'would then be acting
Skti, 4,:retheYi. ner,i.th their c t of bein the farmers'
•te -tlectio harac er g a the
r*a etkstibt °Ppo,in h that had been raised during
ththt 41titut to ,g the Auestien to be right, and that it
thtf.°,, ,retry the prLevseenntt being carried out, the persons
had P'Opl,' it into Government were not those who
de~tur as I, of ties , efrcet• He (Mr. Estcott) beli
evedeeve
pirv_ut!ittry were comparatively itesn44_, to e_lft ts il;l ler individuals who might carry the
let hi 'l4ll iduct t''s would admit that those who had un-
c,el:7, end he measure measure were exposed to the charge
Ohm h" anion h had not escaped from that charge. lie
s'aild to h. • did t,t, the Hon. Member for Knaresborough
i4rlrinal tonstiitP!ender the resignation of his soak, and
AZts lit the / nt nn his change of principle.. He
pee, kril.d 'n• Gentleman that not one single
h ated
tio tt's "541,1 "atat Ito him in the slighest manner
tt
s ) iis seat. A Noble Lord had also
tktu'esit.`urna ite""°eiee how it was consistent with his (Air.
"ar to support l'itscatalk etoca te„ the motion for going into
oaotr the Noble Lord what his °pluton
liisreber et Parliament au. It was