The Sun.
London, England, 1848-06-02 00:00:00

SPANISH AFFAIRS.

In answer to a series of questions from Mr. BAILLIE
(which were not heard in the gallery owing to the con-
fusion caused by Members leaving the House),
. .

Viscount PALMERSTON have to state in
the first place, that the Spanish Minister, Isturibs, some
time ago, announced to me the arrival of Count de
Mirasol in London, for the purpose of giving explana-
tions and statements with regard to recent transactions
at Madrid. My reply to that was, that whatever com-
munications the Government of Spain wished to make
upon those matters to her Majesty's Government, I
should be quite ready to receive from the official and
accredited organ of the Queen of Spain in this country
—(Hear)—but that I thought it my duty to decline
entering into any communications with the Count de
Mirasol.—(Hear, hear.) I also stated that considering
the nature and character of the events to which these
communications were to relate, I thought it desirable,
at all events, in the first place, that those communica-
tions should be made in writing. I have received
some communications from the Spanish Minister; upon
those subjects I am in communication with him at the
present moment; but I do not feel it my duty at present
to state anything upon those matters to the House.
Whenever those communications are brought to a close,
probably I may feel it my duty to lay the correspondence
on the table of the House; but of course it is not for me
to say on what day, or at what time, that will be.
Mr. BANKES wished to ask the Noble Lord whether
he would next day move that the House should go into
Committee of Supply, in order to give him (Mr. Bankes)
the opportunity of bringing on his motion on the Spanish
question?
Lord J. RUSSELL said, if the resolutions on the
navigation-laws were agreed to and reported that night,
and the Bill founded thereon brought in, he should pro-
pose to go into Committee of Supply the next day; if
not, he should propose to go into Committee next
day, with a view of considering these resolutions, and
in that case, should take the Committee of Supply on
Monday.
COPPER DUTIES.

Mr. WYLD inquired if it was true that ships laden
with foreign copper, which had recently arrived, had
been allowed to discharge their cargoes on payment of
the Is. duty proposed by the Bill now passing through
the House.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said it would prevent much in-
convenience if notice was always given of questions of
this nature. He had no knowledge of the matter beyond
the general practice which had always obtained in all
cases of remission of duty—namely, that as soon as the
House had affirmed the resolution for a remission of any
duty, parties were allowed to enter their goods at the
lower rate, giving a bond for the payment of the dif-
ference, should the House not finally sanction the reduc-
tion. He had no reason to believe that a different course
had been pursued with regard to copper.
Mr. WYLD said he must complain of this course.—
(Order, order.) He would move the adjournment of the
House to be in order. He suspected, from the unusually
large importations of foreign copper which had recently
been made, that the parties must have received some
intimation of what the Government were about to do;
whereby a serious loss had been entailed on the copper
miners of this country.
WEST INDIA COLONIES.
In answer to Mr. EltrmE,

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that on the 15th or 16th
of the present month some member of the Government
would be prepared to state the course which was meant
to be pursued with regard to the West India colonies.
NAVIGATION-LAWS—ADJOURNED DEBATE.

Mr. J. WILSON craved the indulgence of the House
in reference to some observations which he had made on
Monday. On that occasion ho had referred to a letter
from Rio Janeiro, stating that several British ships were
lying there unable to obtain cargoes, and to a corrobo-
rative statement which had been subsequently posted at
Lloyd's. The Hon. Gentleman opposite, the chairman
of Lloyd's (Mr. G. Robinson), had said that was alto-
gether untrue.
Mr. G. ROBINSON—I said that it: was absolutely
untrue.

Mr. WILSON wished to afford the Honourable Gen-
tleman the opportunity of stating whether his words re•
(erred to the fact of such a document having been
posted at Lloyd's, as the House apparently un-
derstood him, or whether he referred to the fact of the
vessels lying unemployed at Rio Janeiro. From several
letters which he (Mr. Wilson) had since re-
ceived, some from members at Lloyd's, he found it was
matter of perfect notoriety to the secretaries and officials
4,f that establishment, and to half a dozen leading houses
in L0n...0n, that such a notice had been posted; for they
had read it there. The gentleman who had originally
supplied him with the information from Rio Janeiro was
a supporter of the navigation-laws, but he was desirous
that a fact like that should be known. In consequence
of the denial of the lion. Gentleman (Mr. G. Robinson)
his informant had written to him again, repeating
.the
statement, and referring to the secretaries and officials
of Lloyd's. The worth in the origin,al letter from Rio
Janeiro were exactly what he (Mr. Wil:.,)n) had stated.
The statement posted in Lloyd's was not from that let-
ter, but from one addressed to Messrs. John Robinson
and Sons, alhighly respectable house; and it was exactly
confirmatory of the other statement. He hoped the Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Robinson) would now state whether he
meant to deny the accuracy of the information from Rio

Janeiro; nr t^ 'nepugn the statement th ,;ICE►ar,Cll
merit had been exhibited at Lloyd's, and taken down
half an hour afterwards by order of certain members of
the committee? The statement from Rio Janeiro was
confirmed by other letters; and no fewer than six gen-
tlemen had written to him (Mr. Wilson) confirming the
exhibition of the statement at Lloyd's.
Mr.ROBINSON said, as he should afterwards address
the House on the general question, he would rather
defer his explanation till then.—(No, no.) If it was the
wish of the House he would now give it. There was no
difference of opinion whatever as to a certain letter or
extract having been posted at Lloyd's—(bear, hear)—
or as to the perfect accuracy of the statement made by
the lion. Member for Westbury.—(Hear, hear.) His
denial was strictly meant to be confined to the inference
drawn from the fact stated, of there being eight firet-
class vessels at Rio Janeiro unfreighted, whilst all the
foreign vessels were obtainiwg freights; that inference
being that the reason of their remaining unfreighted was
the bad character of the ships and the masters.—(Hear.)
That was what he meant to deny; and he should be pre-
pared, when he addressed the House, to state his reasons
for knowing that that inference was an absolute false-
hood. He meant not to insinuate that the Hon. Mem-
ber had made an improper use of the letter, or that the
letter was not genuine; for he knew that the writer
was a most respectable person, and it had been put into
his hands the next day.
Mr. MITCHELL said he knew the writer of the
letter. It was entirely a letter of business, written
without any reference whatever to the navigation-laws.
The denial of the Hon.,Member for Poole having gone
before the public, a gentleman who had recently re-
turned from Rio Janeiro had come forward, and stated
that the matter was precisely as it had been represented
by the Hon. Member for Westbury, and that the reason
why the English ships were unchartered was the general
bad conduct of the English captains. He added that
most houses in Europe had given directions to their
agents there not to charter English ships at all if they
could get foreign ones.—(Hear, hear.) Such was the
statement given by parties who had no interest what-
ever in the navigation-laws.
Mr. ROBINSON—I shall be prepared to show that
the statement with respect to the bad character of the
masters and the ships is altogether untrue.
Mr. MITCHELL—I said nothing about the badness
of the ships.
Mr. MOFFATT regretted that the forms of the
House had prevented him from presenting a petition
from his constituents against any alteration of the navi-
gation-laws. He did not agree in the sentiments of that
petition; but believed, from the favourable effect of past
changes during the last 20 years, that the alteration
now proposed would be beneficial. From the moment
that our tonnage hod been in excess of the quantity re-
quired for our coasting and colonial trade and for the
fisheries, the benefit of the navigation-laws had ceased,
but the obstructions which they created had continued.
Many Hon. Members had expressed '()Teat alarm as to
the effect of this measure, but they had failed to show
any ground for it. Even the Hon. Member for
Stamford (Mr. Herries), who had expressed such
great anxiety about the coasting-trade, had not
been able to show how it would be damaged. Ile
was quite at a loss to account for the alarm felt with
regard either to continental shipping or that of the
United States. The returns show that the latter
had regularly increased for the last twelve years ; but
the registered tonnage of most of the continental
countries was extremely trifling in amount. That of
France, according to the latest returns he could obtain,
was only 600,000 tons; that of Austria, in 1838, 130,000
tons; of Norway, 282,000 tons; of Sweden, 118,000 tons;
and for the whole of Europe the total was only 1,594,000
tons. Adding that of the United States, 2,562,000, the
total was 4,156,000 tons, against a tonnage of 4,560,000
for Great Britain; and the carrying power of our ships
was 20 to 25 per cent. greater than that of foreign ves-
sels. After advancing so far as we had done in free
trade, this measure could not be longer delayed. We
were bound to give it to our colonies ; and the only
question that remained was whether we would abolish
this foolish and destructive law for the long voyage.
Though he was highly favourable to this mea-
sure as a whole, many of its details seemed
to him to require consideration. Let the marine of
this country be relieved from all unnecessary taxa-
tion, and it would be a benefit, rather than an injury, to
expose it to free competition with that of other countries.
At present the marine of this country paid a tax of
400,000/. per annum fur light dues, ono-fourth of which
would suffice. It was proposed to allow the registration
of foreign built ships as British ships, where they be-
longed ,to British owners. This would be the only in-
stance in which the importation of a foreign manufac-
tured article was allowed without paying a duty of ten
percent. It had been alleged that the Americans would
engross a great portion of the carrying trade of our
West India colonies. But, looking at what had taken
taken place in Canada, where the trade was already open,
he did not think this at all likely. As to the China
trade, he did not think the Americans would ever suc-
cessfully compete with us there; for America had very
little produce to send to China, and consequently could
not bring much back. In regard to the China trade, he
thought that this measure would be very beneficial, be-
cause at present there was frequently a deficiency of
ships to bring produce from China, which this measure
would tend to supply. He did not believe that the mea-
sure would be detrimental to British shipping, and he
would, therefore, give it his cordial support.

Mr. ROBINSON did not think there ever was a mea-
sure submitted to the House involving such momentous
consequences which was supported by such feeble argu-
ments. The Right Hon. Gentleman presented a peti-
tion the other evening, signed by 272 bankers, mer-
chants, &e., of London, in favour of the measure. He

looked over the names attached to that petition, and he
found that there were but few of the large merchants of
London to be found in it.

Mr. LABOUCHERE—The Governor and Deputy-
Governor of the Bank of England.
Mr. ROBINSON—It was principally signed by soli-
citors, tradesmen, and shopkeepers. But what would
the Right Hon. Gentleman say to the petition which had
been presented to the House by the Right lion. Gentle-
men the Member for Stamford, which was signed by
1,900 of the principal bankers, merchants, and traders of
London ?—(Hear, hear.) He would find that the names
attached to that petition far outweighed those appended
to the petition he presented. And with regard to peti-
tions generally on the subject, those against the mea-
sure were far more numerous than those presented in its
favour.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman
said that Jamaica and Canada petitioned in favour of the
measure. That was true : but their object in doing so
was to indemnify themselves at the expense of the
Brttish shipowners for the loss which they suffered
from the iree•trade legislation of that House. Be
therefore attached no importance to the applications
from those places. The Right Hon. Gentleman then
spoke of a menace from Prussia if they did not alter
their navigation-laws. He hoped that this country had
not yet fallen into such a position that they would be
required to alter their policy with respect to commerce
and navigation at the menace of Prussia or any other
state.—(Hear, hear.) Prussia had nothing to offer
them in exchange; besides that, the policy of Prussia,
as the principal state of the Zollverein, was not such as
should induce them to pass a measure for her benefit.
The Right Hon. Gentleman said also that the United
States promised to reciprocate if they passed this mea-
sure. He had watched for several years the legislation
of that country, and he could not see anything like a li-
beral commercial policy in her measures. After the intel-
ligence of the intention of the Government of this country
to alter the navigation-laws had reached America, one of
the most respectable papers of Washington expressed its
delight "because," it said,"the enterpriseof our merchants,
and the advantages we enjoy, will enable us to acquire
a large portion of the trade with the British colonies."
—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Robinson) believed the effect
of this measure would be to throw the whole of the in-
ter-colonial trade into the hands of the Americans, be-
cause, situated as America was in respect to those
colonies, it would be impossible for the British ship-
owner to compete with her. From the time of Wash-
ington to that of Mr. Polk the object of the American
Republic was to create a powerful marine force ; and
this measure, if unhappily it should pass, would greatly
contribute to that result. As America had not the least
advantage to offer them in return they were not called
upon to pass such a measure as the present. He com-
plained of the mode and means adopted by the Govern-
ment to carry their measure—he alluded more particu-
larly to the letter which had been sent to their consuls
abroad. So far, however, from the consuls having
reported universally against British ship masters, they
had frequently given reports favourable to them. He
maintained, however, that British consuls, who
were generally persons who once belonged to the army,
were not the fittest judges on such a subject. If the
Government wished for correct information they
should not have sent the leading letter which Mr.
Murray wrote.—(Hear.) Was it worthy the Govern-
ment to seek to blacken the character of respectable
men?—(Hear.) There were some amongst them who
might be liable to animadversion, but on the whole the
masters of British ships were as respectable as any other
class of persons.—(Hear.) The lion. Gentleman then
proceeded to read extracts from the letters of the eonsuls
in reply to the letter which had been addressed to them.
Mr. Brooker, the consul at Cronstadt, said that far 59
years only two cases had occurred there of masters ob•
structing the custom-house officers. Two men had been
accused of theft. This was all that could be alleged
against British seamen in Cronstadt for a period of 59
years, although there were 500 ships a year there on the
000. (Hear,
average, with crews amounting
hear.) Colonel Whitehead, of Archangel, said that
there were a few cases of charges against British mss •
ters, but they were comparatively rare.
Liddel, of Memel,
Colonel Wright,
of Riga, Mr. Games, of Odessa, Consul
and Mr. M'Gregor, of Elsineur, made reports of a similar
nature.
An Hors. MEmumn here moved that the House be
counted. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but the
requisite number of Members being present,
Mr. ROBINSON continued his address by saying he
was surprised that on so
.important a subject—one which 1
it was desirable to have fully discussed—an attempt
should have been made to count out the house.—(Hear,
hear.) He would road no more of the consul's reports,
but would observe merely that they were not generally
unfavourable to British shipmasters. Now, in reference
to the statement of the Hon. Gentleman opposite, that
British vessels could not get freighted at Rio Janeiro in
consequence of the bad character of the vessels, whilst
foreign vessels readily got freighted, he begged to say
that ho had received a letter dated the Ist of April (the
very date to which the Hon. Gentleman referred), in
which it was stated that, the reasons why the British
vessels were not freighted was, that the masters would
net accept the low freightage offered them.—(Hear, hear.)
The Hoe. Member had accepted his information too
readily and too credulously, and he otteht to have taken
some pains to ascertain, not only that the fact was cor-
rect, but that the inference he drew was warranted,
Mr. WILSON—It is not my inference.

fir,, ri,(.171.7•7',e)ee „ r ro'
(erred to Holland as a country that had formerly a large
commercial marine and navy without a navigation-la
That was true; hut then there was no analogy betweenw.
the case of I !offend in those days, and the case of
Eng-
land at the present time, because there was not then the
same competition which existed now, and moreover Hol-
land was not burdened with a debt of 800,000 OW.--
(Hear, hear.) He could assure the House, that if the
Government prevailed on it to adept free trade measures
to such an extent, this country would rot be able to
compete with foreigners, and the effect would be to di!.
lace a great part of the commercial marine of this
p
ch y.—(Henear, ear.) But some persons 'night saP,
watountr coneequceh was that of. And a naval officer of
some standing said that the commercial marine was no.„
necessary to the manning of the nary of Englard•
he had nut read the evidence of Captain Stirlieg,
could not have believed that any naval officer lea',
have 'liven such an opinion.—(Hear, hear.) He believeo
that the evidence of naval men would be given befr;
the Committee, which was sitting elsewhere, on t.lll/_.
subject, which would completely controvert that opinieet.
The Hon. and Gallant Member for Christchurch (C3Rt
Harris) had contradicted it already, and declared thane '
was impossible to maintain that the commercial marl
was not instrumental in manning the navy. Bo o'+ •
would ask, was the nary to be manned in case of etnigs
gency ?—(Hear.) It was true Captain Stirling loay,l
plan of his own, namely, to keep up such a large ns'se,
establishment in time of peace as would render it I,.es.
pendent of the commercial marine. But would the
cinivbe
Member fur Montrose sanction such a plea? Wcnii set
country, in a period of financial embarrassment, CO?n_gea
to,keep up an immense naval armament in time ef.Pe.'the
He had to complain that it was sought to conneesee
system of impressment with British shipowners'
had nothing to do with it. It was the naval authorap.
of the country who were responsible for it. lie
rusts
posed to the system, but he did not see how they vv.,
inee
do without it in time of war. flow would they finu so
then to man the navy if their commercial marine weeeis
much reduced as he expected it would
Bill? The Honourable Member opposite ( 16° the
accused them of entrapping apprentices Why' it
purpose of transferring them to the navY.
was the naval authorities that forced apprentices //s
them much to their disadvantage.—(Hear, be,r2seie'
contended that if the measure passed, the Engles inoe
hilto der ;alio
owner would be placed in a disadvantageous P°s,pee
with respect to the foreigner.—(Hear, bear.)ithuitbeer
British shipowner would not be on an equality
foreigner. He could not, for instance, import nether
to build his ships duty free. He bad also meg set
restrictions imposed on him for national etlelVsel;pre'
he
did not want to shake off those restrictions sties
action was continued ,to him. The comniercial °class'
of foreign countries had greatly increased of last° tbe
The difference between vessels entered inwards 11.° sees
United States, Prussia, Denmark, and Sweden bet of
the years 1824 and 1846, as compared esith bet of
Great Britain, was in favour of those States sego'
vessels and 707,700 tons. He did not wish to
soh
rate the matter, but as the capacity of foreign ielteeith
and particularly of France and America, to couPdsy,
them was growing greater and greater everY.f net °
was in his opinion the greatest act of folly', sedi'
insanity, that could be committed to give theln ova dote'
tional advantage which this measure would AV.
all
r"
—(Hear, hear.) Then, as to authority, it ws-dlio
favour of the navigatioe-laws. Mr. Huskisson ratiii
g
Wallace, whilst they were in favour Of thef re 1P
desOO
fi
system, would not consent to abandon the nu
principle of the navigation-laws. If he evelltn, Srell
the days of Sir Joshua Child, and even Ause-etitig,
of
whom gentlemen opposite were so fond of cli"s-s th
would be found that they were for maintain
the di'
laws. Indeed, nothing could be stronger is
nion of Dr. Adam Smith in favour of then:llo,loi
beginning to end the anatomy of the naves
was a tissue of ribaldry and prejudice. if '-'4fscidlis/101
succeeded in carrying this measure they erou' pre
dreds and thousands to the mass of pattPer°; onlYa,3
in our country. And all this would be d° 000 or
secure an uncertain advantage; fur, if the alter a her
increase commerce, it would be the conitnereeke 610,0
countries. If such a Bill was introduceele'tios
ed
watch it very closely, and give it every oPrsihe flee
power. Even if it should pass that House% it ia
here would be sufficient patriotism to rejecy
House of LA. ords. is
g
Mr. T. MITCHELL said that wheu fee'l°
Gentleman the chairman at Lloyd's expresso Ptefer
in favour of carrying cargoes by British 0450005; of
once to carrying them in those of foreign
to l'l3:jer
was expressing an opinion entirely olVses- the octet.
every underwriter in that house. Two °' tbe
writers of Lloyd's had been examined vier-00es
mf ittee last year, and had given decided el is foree°o
your of the superior desirability of carrY,,ingterocsrgeOr
bottoms. In a recent case at the Havasna'S h the; ale
of sugar for St. Petersburgh, one in a Brit'AS'fibil9; the
in a foreign ship, had been insurede en"stio°, the
foreign ship's cargo had arrived safely the„l-e Pleol•
British ship was so damaged as to recl7,dB tbesi, ler
premium to be refunded in order to make g°-secuivs'elefi
At the present time there was absolutely, n° es is or
the merchants against the captains of shiPl: wereseat
of vessels going short voyages the caPtsescl woo
"
quently men of very indifferent skill Illeestirg-ylil
This was, according to his vievrth,
question of free trade. The effect t3';_t
had had on our commerce was most b 6 el°
Look at our Canada trade: flour via* ""Coni,"- 101
New York at 2s. ld. per barrel, whilst fro opialde °'
igit
tpthhroaicte,Nis,of
ortlfhdefsrv‘ee,i(gthwi
barrel cost for freight u wa d of 4s- 11j:se
d rather W' its
eights
wbweeorueil
ndper
bre
eep
aerisanelsed the ea lu
nished. Delay in •
shipments wedor,uenaldt: edalst:;:b-J;tle;
had often happened to him at Rigs theati. ergefe'rtb°c
unable to obtain British vessels to take his ere.;
conviction was, that if facilities were the Id b"
importation of goods, England would hee°7:St 0;01°
commercial depot of the world. ErriploY°3:ol9oll-o°,,
given to our docks, to our ships, and to u' opt tp"
every department; indeed he could not atteesece
rthepeebetelnoeffitthsowehxiicsthiowgosuyldstermes.ult.wasitah
rce°gunstdclto Gt°ol°oll
tion, not one single argument had he beard to 'lietsetal
that British ships would not be able to college liter
ships of every other nation of the world- 0,00°,0
for his own part, that no country in tribteettlagloll;
such advantages in building and °"sech -tee;
as we had. No country poseessed tieve
tages of obtaining teak, oak, fir, and thrie setft"seli
of our Australian colonies. As regartle!ci svOege'
cost of outfitting in the north of Engine,. teopper
about 1/. per ton for canvass, le WEI_ eee
lOs. per ton for iron work, and pers. to"ol oo,,her
work. There was no other country that c°,,sia P
with these prices. Then as to sailorsA,vreiroVeltlibisettie
rates for the captains, and it was most eee n, s vtZ
should do so. But as to the common seatheee vi-crelrE
in the Baltic trade the Swedes paid le" citestage C;
yet the cost of the American marine was ci-seall"e 0";
Then, as to provisions, we had all with
00 tee
provisioning our vessels cheap; and with 4%10 Wel;
vantages surely it would not be coutende
othercu(-ri) dere
systems;t ianl
foreign competition was likely to injure ns'n chip
pealed, and if t
githaot dthiseadpvraeosteangtestimoef
twhiethapfporreeolleriespboiPti
°fie;
htehyesweerley,oucloduldbetheet:etirbeelyonraeese:?o_6lo(o,
hadbeing able to compete with the greatest sotto
eststteviser.
considered the question with the gree:oleetg°
and he was fully assured that we should h Oe°i
by the repeal of these laws. WO'
ee
The Marquis of GRANBY said that tespial
ee
toise
and as,
aasf,ter denouncing our short-voYage cilee
ill
ri4
inferior character to the East India and Oiled
consequently, lowering the positionl. nos..' 14
the interests of our carrying trade, propoee', on' oi
gically, to remedy the matter by destrelllssineidll
voyage traffic altogether, and to restrict the ell
ts
our ships to the coasting and fishing trao°. ,be co oe
d
denied that our ships could compete' unee
The e pSe d
plated change, with the foreign carrier. „s of °.
in the cost of our ships, and our higher rai'ysetig oeir
as evidenced by Mr. George Fredericka the pod bi
other eminent authorities, wholly preclude neotelpool
lity of our successful competition, 11°1°1 °`,..04"
statutory regulations. The lion. Gentie,fthe Poi(
himself admitted the advantage possessed 011/.
ship-builder by the clause which enabled r'u't the etc
eg ort •
owners to purchase foreign vessels and tor ersplono
English ships. Ile called upon the House' rns deetileitiltr
fatly at a period of such d. not to diffo' „est/J.411f
'stress,
among the workmen connected with our 51abireffecAl;poil
by consenting to a measure which wou 011010010
destroy that class of labour ,• and he fuetnes' won- 11°(
them, at a moment when a Continental vra'erieelve";e,
pending in which we ourselves might be eloueelh
to break up that class of operatives to which
fi;pet
dockyards could look in case of emergeanfii ~epeld bee'
denied that there was any necessity, or efehich
for calling for this chang
fr
sanctioned by some of our greatest statesna,st te rise, eof a system e
sidered the measure as a practical pceot the Pr",
traders had fallen off in their faith in free- put fore'
pies, or they would nut, in support of thetois, wereotel
their apprehension of Prussia's creaAtinsgto our °,:esit
marine, or a free-trade of her Own. 0C tie
trade, Captain Stirling's and other (:w en prf,,,
show that the railways would in s few 10001'4d If
break this up. Already, many of nor etietinue
viously engaged in this trade, had dis xidoo guar°
in consequence of the railways from 1-'49 joie!
various ports and between the Pro/ thine tS
themselves. It was a very difficuiV ilowil3%
keep our heads just above water, while a. ed btl
FjogisLi
American vessels to be coming from _no ou
United States, and to allow America to 0500rtsed_o eel
to and from China and our colonies liee°,ool3 roten
if this change were effected, llamburF.,%tieent
the warehouse for China goods for the Llntineetaifeel;
of London; there was already too inuc'iloneleg
i.i
this in the unfairly lower rates for thewarn svarellot 0,
ilembu._r.F."o,steen..titelso
burgh and other foreign port", for while
nd the rsiss,
of a ton of tea at London cost 16s. 6de and
seers I,e'cl(f);
6d., the warehousing charges in
6d., and the rent 2s. The apprenticernrd
doubt been felt as an inconvenienca„ along es.l..%beet
but the shipping interest had been
sepr-035..g.
submit to this disadvantage for the e h
its aid to the maintenance of our navee of pet.
osing ,bow eo
Hon. Gentlemen reflect that the tuns ion „ig eoraoo.
tot the only thing needful
; wheniree°t if s°l33e °Aroiittr 51,et
riches of Crcesus he said to him,.
~eie,e wie tanisetefiose
with iron, stronger than your vont e
rld he OPi9i°l' ° "arfice
away." The Noble Lord quote t syete... se
_a,
Brown to prove that the appFentle", L'ne Ista,v6eecle.Pees
for a-ter, voar'crafari'
There was no immediate necessityno
aeera" eon- pee
innuestrength, prove stature,the comp
cPi p°lsintle°,ll a n°dl genie rgui g the for
vigatimalaws. There had been eb„, the
_oly
any such measure as the present 03%ieuiej
there had been may a strong Teel; rece Poo
be umeper." b bed Ppi tO
vigation-laws ought not to
foreign
And were
from foreign nations.
cry that had been raised wag that w h'e. Dati°