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and Learned Gentleman said—" By the present Bill
much mischief will be avoided—it gives protection
where it was wanted, and takes from no man the right of
being tried by a jury."—( Hear, hear.) Now he (Sir J. Gra-
ham) should say that under the provisions of the present Bill
every man should be tried before a judge and by a jury of his
countrymen—the onus of proof of innocence resting entirely
with himself.—( Hear, bear.) He was very unwilling at
greater length to trespass on the indulgence of the House, but
he still could not help adverting to the system practised towards
the resident landlords in many districts, the result of which was
that many of them were compelled to become exiled from the
enjoyment of their homes and properties. With that view he
would refer the House to a case that was lately
brought under his own knowledge. In the evidence
taken before the Devon Commission, 2d volume,
and page 751, Mr. Vincent, a Roman Catholic gentleman,
residing in the county Clare was described as a resident gen
Oman, performing all the duties of his station in a highly
creditable and gentlemanlike manner. In the course of last
autumn, and at three different periods, he received three
threatening notices, because of his arrangement or letting of
140 acres of land. These notices compelled Ishn, within the
last two months to leave the district ; but on the Sunday
before leavinz, he attended the Roman Catholic chapel, for the
purpose of Divine worship, and having obtained the consent of
the clergyman he, at the close of Divine worship addressed the
people from the steps of the altar, explaining to them his rea-
sons for quitting the country. He stated there were men
then present in the chapel, and he knew them, who.
had already passed a sentence of death upon him,
and in consequence of that he was compelled
to leave his home and his property. He stated he was quite
ready to enter into an explanation of his conduct as a landlord
and a resident. But what was the result ? Why, that on the
neat day he was served with another notice ; and the conse-
quence was, that he was compelled to relinquish the enjoy,
ment of home and family ; and the improvement of his pro-
perty, as well as the condition of those dependent on him as a
landlord.—( Hear, hear.) Such was the state of the country
that he had been compelled to leave his home, and he was about
to leave the country. He had been informed that Mr. Carrick,
a Clare man, the friend of the lion. Member (Mr. O'C. ), who
took such an active part in a transaction which neither the Hon.
Member nor posterity were likely easily to forget--the election
for Clare after the Catholic emancipation—had been barba-
rously murdered. Mr. Wilson, a friend of Mr. Carrick, had
been compelled to leave the country, and since he had left Mr.
Carrick had been shot. He was about to read a letter from a
gentleman whom he might suppose was a connexion of the
Hon. Gentleman the Member for the City of Cork.
lie was a Roman Catholic and a stipendiary magistrate.
He stated that the writer regretted to say that he died of
his wounds; that alarm and consternation was created
by this event in the minds of all respectable persons through-
out the country, who looked forward to the passing of the C
ercion Bill, as the only means of putting a stop to this system
of assassination, so perseveringly put in force. ilo Days that no
man's life is safe, and it would require the most stringent law for
the protection of the country, and that there is no security for
any person. He was drawing to a close the observations which
he had felt his painful duty to make to the House, hut
there was another document which it was his duty
to place before the House whole and entire. It was an appeal
made to the Hon. Member by a Mr. Ryan, a Roman Catholic,
and with the permission of the House he would read it. The
writer said, that as the Hon. Member valued the peace of Ire-
land, he entreated him to give up his opposition to the prin-
ciple of the Bill, for every person agreed that something should
be done to suppress the increasing crime in that country. The
Landlorde and Tenants' Bill, as proposed, would be the
reverse of what was required. The objection to it by the
Liberal party in the House was that it destroyed the liberty of
the subject, and if passed into a law, the privacy of families
would be revealed, and their Members rendered liable to
insult. The Arms Act had been for some time enforced, in
which the power placed into the hands of the police had not been
abused. That tact did away with the arguments against the
Bill. The Government was doing all in its power to
relieve the distress of the people, and to establish
a law for the benefit of Ireland. They were pro-
mised an extended franchise and other things, and let
them, in the name of common sense, neither delay this
measure nor hinder its progress. On the protection side, it
would seem the opinion that the result of this measure would
be an infringement of their liberties. The lawless men abridged
the liberty of the subject, by obliging respectable parties to re-
main at home from sunset to sunrise, and sometimes during
the broad day, through fear of assassination. If some
dozens of the population were brought to justice under
this Act, no doubt millions would benefit by it.
He could not conclude his speech better than in the words of
the letter to which he had referred—that is to say, that as they
loved justice, as they detested the crime of murder, and as they
opposed violence and intimidation, he entreated and implored
them not to reject the present Bill. He would, in the future
discussions on the Bill, make some further statements respect-
ing the state of things that prevailed, he was glad to say, not in
the whole, nor in a very large portion, but which was limited,
he believed, to about five counties of Ireland; but at present
he entreated the House, considering the state of that country,
not to refuse the first reading of the Bill.—( Hear. )
Mr. DILLON BROWNE moved the adjournment of the
debate.

Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN did not wish to take any other
course, but what would bring out the whole facts of the case in
fair discussion. He thought it would be beat.to adjourn then.—
(Cries of " Go on, go on.")
Mr. O'CONNELL did not think that the House ought to
press him to go on after sitting seven hours. The hest course
at that late hour would be to adjourn the further consideration
of the question.
Sir ROBERT PEEL objected to the adjournment as with-
out precedent. There was a general understanding that the
Honourable and Learned Member for Dublin (Mr. O'Con-
nell) would address the House, and he had no
doubt he would be listened to for an hour or two. Besides,
every facility would be given on the second reading, and the
other stages of the Bill, to discuss the measure. On the first
reading he hoped they would go on that night.
Mr. CALEB POWELL briefly supported the motion for
adjournment.
Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON thought they ought .to go
on. Hon. Members on the other side of the House seemed to

prefer an adjournment, in order to consult their love of ease.—
(Cries of " Oh, oh.") He thought. that if Hon. Members
who had been engaged all day in 'Government offices were
willing to sit, that Hon. Members on the other side ought to
go on. Let them fight the measure in a fair way, if they
wished to oppose what they called this " Algerine Act." He
for ore was not prepared to go home at half-past eleven o'clock.
Mr. D. BROWNE would not allow his Irish feelings to be
excited, notwithstanding the undignified manner in which the
Noble Lord bad spoken, who always contrived to say some;hing
that was very offensive. He would not sesame that tone, but
state the reasons why he moved that adjournment. He did
so as the Hon. and Learned Member for Cork (Mr. O'Connell)
had precedence with his amendment, but was not prepared to
go on at that hour. Besides, the Hon. Member the Right
Hon. Gentleman the Home Secretary had made an able speech,

in a temper which he Mr. D. Browne) would wish to see
imitated by other Hon. Members in that House, and it was but
right that time should be given for a reply, as it contained
some very striking statements respecting the people of Ireland
which it was necessary to answer. He hoped the Government
would not use any great precipitancy in forwarding a measure
involving to such an extent the rights and liberties of the people.
He hoped that the House would not hurry through a measure
which would place the whole country is the power of the
Lord Lieutenant. Under these circumstances, he had moved

the adjournment of the House, and he did not regret that by
doing so he had incurred the wrath of the Noble Lord.
Colonel RAWDON did not think that it was a very extraor-
dinary course to move the adjournment of the debate. He
himself would have, at an earlier period of the evening, been op-
posed to it, bat after hearing the speech of the Noble Lord, he
was decidedly in favour of the adjournment.
Mr. MONKTON MILNES said that as the Hon. and

Learned Member for Cork intended to address the House on

this question, it might be thought advisable that the House
should adjourn, to give him an opportunity of doing se; but if
other Hon. Members connected with Ireland thought that
they would continue the debate without the leading of the
Hon. and Learned Member for Cork, he thought they aught
do so still. After the speech they had heard that evening from
the Right Hon. Baronet, he thought the sooner they adjourned
the better.

Sir ROBERT PEEL hoped that Hon. Members having
notices for to-morrow, would adjourn them, in order to allow

the adjourned debate to take precedence.
Mr. COLLETT said he was well acquainted with the sub-
ject of Ireland, and he knew no subject that should be expedited
through the House with greater facility than this. As respected
Ireland, it was more important than the corn-laws. Murders
were on the increase ; two of his own servants had been shut,
and the wife and two chEdren of a man, who was before the
jury giving evidence, was shot at whilst going home. He
considered that it would be for the public interest that
the measure should be passed as soon as possible.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought that the proposition made
by the Right Hon. Baronet was a very fair one. He thought
that Hon. Gentlemen having motions for to-morrow st ould
postpone them. If they did not do so, he should vote against
the adjournment.
Mr. O'CONNELL said he had a motion for to-morrow, but
under the circumstances he should willingly wave it.
Lard C. HAMILTON wished to explain ; when he spoke of
Irish Members moving the adjournment at such an early hour,
he had no wish that the Hon. and Learned Member for Cork
should be forced to speak that evening. He referred only to
some of the Hon Members behind him.
Mr. C. BULLER did not see why they should agree to the
question of adjournment without coming to same at range
ment with respect to the business of to-morrow. He himself
had a notice of some three or four deep, but he would willingly
adjourn it in order to allow the debate to continue.
Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN had a motion for to-morrow,
but, with the sentiments he entertained upon this Bill, he did
not feel justified in withdrawing it.
The House then divided, when there appeared--
For the adjournment 32
Against it
Majority —66
On our return to the gallery we found
Sir R. PEEL address►ng the House, He was understood
to say he would agree to the adjournment of the debate to this
day.
After a few words from Mr. O'CoNNELL and Mr. BORTH•
wtoc, the debate was adjourned.
ART UNIONS' BILL.

On the motion of Mr. WYSE, this Bill was read a second
time.
Mr. WYSE said that he was prepared to have it committed
on any day that would suit the convenience of the Chancellor of
the Exchequer.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said Wed-
nesday week.
Mr. WYSE assented to the sugge.tian, and it was arranged
that the Bill should be committed on that day.
The Indemnity Bill was then read a third time, and pissed.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at a Quarter-past Twelve o'clock.

Puor Dragonttti lies in a hopeless state. Thera was
a consultation of physicians on Saturday, the result of which was by
no means favourable ; his complaint is confirmed dropsy. He is up-
wards of eighty.

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