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GROUP XVII.

MANCHESTER. AND SOUTHAMPTON AND
SOUTH WESTERN (ROMSEY AND REDBRIDGE BRANCH).

The Committee met this morning at twelve o'clock. The Eton. F.
Yorke in the chair.

ROMSEY AND REDBRXDOB BRANCH.

Mr. James Griffin, of the firm of Griffin and Co., was then called
and examined by Mr. HATHERTON—Has a yard at Redbridge,
and has supplied the Government with foreign and English timber.
Receives a great quantity of timber from America and the Baltic.
Sends a good deal of timber from Redbridge to Salisbury by land
carriage, which he should send by this branch.
The CHAIRMAN intimated that the Committee were satisfied that
there was a good deal of traffic bgtween Redbridge and Salisbury. It
would therefore be unnecessary to multiply evidence on this point,
at the same time they would be glad to hear evidence as to the cost
of transit and the saving which the line would effect.

Examination continued —The cost of sending a ton of timber
from Redbridge to Salisbury was 10s. a ton ; by the line it would be
about half that amount. The London, Salisbury, and Yeovil line, if
made, would be of considerable advantage, as it would promote the
timber trade with the west of England and take inland goods for
exportation and bring foreign goods back.

Cross-examined by Mr. R. Gr N XY. —Timber landed at Southamp-
ton was floated up to Redbridge, and the expense of floating up 50
loads, which would require the assistance of two men, would be 10s.
Small quantities were not floated, but conveyed by land cgrrtage.
Now pays Is. per load per mile for the conveyance of English timber.
'the railway charge is 4d. The expense of floating a load up to
Meebridge was 4.1. or Cal. a load. The drafting was not
more than Id. a load. Was not aware that the Manchester and
Southampton sought powers in their Bill to charge no more than
I rid. a load. If they did this, the only additional charge would
be 6d.

Do you think you could sell It cheaper by floating it than the
merchant at Southampton?—We should be able to do so at Red-
bridge, but not at Salisbury. Could not name any other place
where he could sell it cheaper. . . . .

By Mr. SAUNDERS—The South Western terminus is about a quar-
ter of a mile irom the docks, by water more titan half a mile. The
Manchester and Southampton terminus is near the public quay?.
The witness, in reply to Mr. DAVIS, sail timber could not be
floated up to Redbridge during the ebb and flow of the tide, or during
the prevalence of heavy gales, except a south-east wind.
By the CHAIRMAN—A line from Redbridge to Romsey would be of
infinite advantage. If he had a large quantity of timber at South-
ampton he should float it up to Redbridge as now; perhaps he should
send small quantities by the railway.
The CHAIRMAN said—Perhaps the promoters of the line were de-
sirous to know the opinion of the Committee with respect to their
project. It was quite clear that somebody must construct it, be-
cause such a, line would be of particular benefit to inland traders, and
to traders at Eling ; but the promoters had only proved this fact by
evidedce from the two extremities of thr line, Romsey and Rebrid; e;
but Eling and Redbridge are situated on an estuary, to reach which
various expenses had to be incurred—river dues, pilotage, and various
things,which of course iucreased the cost of transit. The Committee bad,
however, to look not simply to the public or local advantage, but to
the greatest public advantage which it would afford. Now, as he
had said, they had only proved this by those locally interested. They
wanted more general arid extended evidence than that which hal up
to that time been exhibited to them.
After the examination of several other witnesses, the Committee
gul
__Jourd.llll.Titurclay. find on Friday they will adjourn to the
Thursday !allowing.

The Committee met thleCtrorningl7. XV.
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3iLILIZAWAY, MOND ON, S A.MISSVILY, 0-irx36 --.
The Clearantere announced, that he had received two letters' which
had been very -improperly addressed to him, as chairman of this
Committee. Ile would hand them over to the Committee's clerk,
and hoped that the publicity which would be given to this transac-
tion, would.prevent a repetition for the future, of any such improper
conduct. It was decided by the Committee, that they would only
hear two engineers on each side of the line, a Committee hating
tbeelimporiotteeeeedyedesteilitahy,.but In
recommended that course he would adopt their recommendation.
new features on the
gutoleesmrewb4seet:e d
consequence of the previous instruction of the Committee was not
The examination of Mr. VI
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Lord Morley and Lord Vivian were then called, wile gave evidence
evidence
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to
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f Affordingline, as bei a more clirect and shor route to
in favourand o eaterng
accommodation to
Sr the tareirmediate
London,
ei en by the existing lines.
districts than was es
and
archlct, was then called, who proved
land surveyor
Mr. Tate,
the quantity of land required for the construction of the railway.
Secretaryat War, M.P. for South Wiltshire, proved
Mr. S Herbert, accommodation in the districts through
ity of railway
He considered, both in histhe great necessity
d to pass.
which the railway- propuse
it was advisable that there should
pri-
vate and official character, that
the coast. He knew that the
line of railway along .
t nce to having a line
be a continuous
great importance a
the military authorities attached
Portsmouth, Southampton, Dover,
which would connect Falmouth,
of troops. A break of gauge
and Sheerness, for the conveyance .
consequence of hav-
urpose, in
would be very inconvenient for this p
vhich with large bodies of
ing to unload and repack the luggage, 1
troops was very considerable.
Mr. Locke was then examined with reference to the alternative
• h leaves the main line at the
line between Yeovil and Exeter, wine
58th mile and joins it at the 74th.
Mr. Cocanuax then put in the agreement between the two com-
panies and the South-ii esters
Railway and the Cornwall and Devon
Central.
The returns in accordance with the buncombe resolutions were
then handed in for that portion of the line between Basingstoke and
This formal proceeding closed the case on behalf of the
Salisbury.
promoters.
At the request of Mr. Talbot and Mr. Butt, the Committee ad-
journed till twelve on Thursday.

:GROUP T.Y.
LONDON, HOUNSLOW, AND WESTE&N•
(Continued from eur Afternoon Edition.)
Evidence having been called as to the value of the property that
would be required for the purposes of the line, the case of the pro-
moters was closed.
The Committee adjourned till Thursday at twelve o'clock, when
the case for the opponents will be gene into.

Company to construct a short line of nine miles' length between
theirs and the Fleetwood line.

The CHIIIMAN would not consent to consider anything which was
not properly before the Committee.
The clauses of the Fleetwood Bill were then read and agreed to.
The. Committee then adjourned to twelve on Thursday next.

GROUP LII.

Thls•Commlttee met to-day at the usual hour ; Mr. P. Miles
chairman.
GRAND JUNCTION (HUTTON AND 17.7.AR—
RINGTON lIRA.NCIE) ; AND ST. HELEN'S
CANAL AND RAILWAY.
IMPORTANT DECISION.

Mr. TALBOT opened the case of the Huyton and Warrington
Branch, on behalf of the Grand Junction Company.
Captain Huish, of the Grand Junction Railway, and Mr. Locke,
civil engineer, were then examined on behalf of the promoters.
Mr. Sinclair was examined by Sergeant WBANGLIA3I on behalf of
the St. Helen's Canal Railway Company.
The room wac then cleared, and on re-admission
The CHAIRMAN announced that the preamble of the Grand Junc-
tion (Huyton to Warrington) Railway was proved, and that the
preamble of the St. Helen's Canal and Railway Company was proved
only as far as Garston.
The Committee then adjourned till three o'clock on Thursday next

GROUP LIII.
This Committee re-assembled at twelve o'clock • this morning, in
Room 26. (new Houses of Parliament). Present, Hon. E. Lascelles
(in the chair), the Earl of Arundel and Surrey, Mr. Hildyard, Capt.
Dalrymple, and Mr. IL Clayton.

SHILOPSIIME UNION lIND CANAL (C=ES-

ann. TO WOMMMItHAMPTON.)

The evidence in I his case was "resumed

Mr. Thomas Baldwin, carrying agent to the Chester and Aylesbury
Canal Company, being the first witness, he was called to show the
superiority of a railway over a canal, in the carriage of passengers and
traffic, and the desirableness of having a direct line of railway comm,i-
nicati n between Wolverhampton and Biikenheaci.
Mr. James Boyclon, an extensive iron master, was next called, to
show the great advantage that. would be conferred on the iron-
masters in the neighbourhood of Wolverhampton by the construction
of this railway.
Mr. Alexat,der Easton, resident engineer to the Birmingham and
Liverpool Canal Company, was the next witness. He proved that
that Company experienced great difficulties in procuring a proper
supply of water, particularly in the summer months.
Mr. Edward Cresewell, of the firm of Hayward, .Cresswell, and
Sons, ironmasters, Dudley, was next called to show the benefit which
the construction of this railway would confe: on the ironntasters of
Dudley and the neighbourhood.
The remainder of the day was occupied with the hearing of similar
evidence, and the Committee adjourned at four o'clock till twelve on
Thursday next.

Gitour LIV.

COVENTRY, NLYNE.O.TON, nipayixNGHAin

AND LEICESTER.

Tke Committee met at twelve preciselythis morning, and were oc-
cupied for some time in deciding on the order in which they should
proceed with the numerous Bills comprised in their group. The
Committee decided eventually to proceed with the Coventry, Nun-
eaton, Birmingham and Leicester Railway.
The 11111 was opposed by the Leicester and Birmingham Company,
and by the Birmingham and Leicester Direct Company.
_ _

From the evidence It appeared that the length of the line from
Coventry to Nuneaton was twenty-six miles, and from Leicester to
to Birmingham about eighty-flyemiles._ The estimates were fully
sufficient to carry out the works. There were no peculiar engineering
difficu,ties to be contended against. Tht population was numerous in
the vicinity of the line, and the general mineral and other produc-
tions would ensure a ready and remunerative traffic.
The Committee were engaged all day with evidence of a general
nature, and adjourned at four o'clock.

GROUP LVI.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
LONDON AND DLACILIXTAIM.

The next case gone into was that of the London and Blackwell ,1
Railway Company, who, according to Mr. Hill, their counsel, wished
to widen their line from Stepney to the station near Fenchurch-
street, a distance of about a mile. The main line, it would seem,
had cost 1,100,0001. ; but the returns had disappointed the promoters,
although the public had reaped considerable advantage from it. It
was calculated originally that two mill:ons and a half of passengers
would pass over the line at much higher fares than were at present
charged ; but the results had gone beyond that point, so far as the
number of passengers was concerned, but not with respect to
fares. The number of passengers which passed over the line
last year was 30,182,000, and it was clear from this fact
although the undertaking had not proved ,so profitable to the pro-
moters as it was at first anticipated, it had been of incalculable be-
nefit and advantage to the public. Last year Parliament granted an
extension from Stepney to Bow, where it formed a junction on the
one hand with the Northern and Eastern Railway, and on the other
with the Eastern Counties, the first line running to Norwich and
Ysrmoitth, and the second to Colchester and Ipswieh ; and the pre-
sent Bill was for giving powers to widen the Blackwell Railway
from Stepney to Fenchurch, with the view of accommodating, and
bring the traffic of those two great railways up into the very heart
of the City of London.
The Bill was opposed by the Corporation of London, the East and
West India Docks Coml..any, and the proprietors of different build-
'in. a on the route.
Mr. Tite, the architect, was the firpt witness called, also gave very
positive evidence in favour of the Bill. He said the traffic on the
Northern and Eastern, and Eastern Counties lines, amounted to a
million of passengers, and he had no doubt most of them would make
use of the proposed extension in the event of its being conceded by
the Legislature. The traffic would also be considerably increased by
a proposed extension to Epping, which the Eastern Counties Company
were promoting in the present session. The value of the land and
buildings to be taken by the proposed extension, he estimated at
179,000/.
The witness was cross-examined by the various counsel,
also appealed against the Bill, with the view of showing that the
necessity for the line was not sufficient to justify the destruction of
property itmould occasion.
Mr. Joseph Lock, the engineer of the Rlackwall Company stated,
nthoawt ibtersre inthteeVondemd
intouttineeitweitthheioeßoewmoEtixvteenesnlogiiinaesn.d he.
now
extension was to enable the Blackwell traffic, which was worked by
• stationary power to remain uninterrupted as it was at present. The
length of it would be about a mile and a half, and he estimated its
cast at 229,3961. The gradients and engineering features of the line
were exceedingly favourable.
The Committee adjourned, at four till twelve o'clock on Thursday.

STANDING ORDERS' COMMITTEES.
HOUSE OF LORDS.
This Committee met to-day at two o'clock, when the Standing
Orders in the cases of the following railway projects were declared to
have been complied with.
EAST LINCOLNSHIRE RAILWAY.
Agents, Messrs. Dyson and Co.
MALT ON AND DRIF FIELD JUNCTION RAILWAY.
Agents, Messrs. Williamson and Co.
NORTH BRITISH RAILWAY.
Agents, Messrs. Burke, Pritt and Co.
NORTH BRITISH RAILWAY (lIAWICK BRANCHES).
Agents, Messrs. Burke, Plitt and Co.
EXETER AND EXMOUTH RAILWAY.
Agents, Messrs. Dorrington and Co.
The Committee then adjourned.

'HIE LONDON GAZETTE.
(THIS EVENING.)

At the Council Chamber, Whitehall, the 25th day of May, 1846,
by the Lords of her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council.—lt is
this day ordered by their Lordships, that his Grace the Archbishop of
Canterbury do prepere a Form of Prayer and Thanksgiving to Al-
mighty God for her Majesty's safe delivery of a Princess; and that
such Form of Prayer and Thanksgiving be used in 01l churches and
chapels in England and Wales, and In the town of Berwick-
upon-Tweed, upon Sunda;', the 31st day of May instant, or the Sun-
day after the respective ministers of such churches and chapels shall
receive the same. And it is hereby further ordered, that her Ma-
jesty's printer do forthwith print a competent number of copies of the
said Form.of Prayer and Thanksgiving, that the same may be forth-
with sent round and read in the several churches and chapels of
England and Wales, and of the town of Berwick-upon-Tweed.
WM. L. BATHURST.
At the Council-chamber, Whitehall, the 25th day of May, 1846, by
the Lords of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council—lt is
every minister and preacher,
t
Ihs well dayel?
called Scotland as those of the Episcopal Communion, protected
of t orderedhe bytheir
Established
c Lordships,hurch Thatin
that part of Great Britain
e
and allowed by an Act, passed in the tenth year of her
Majesty Queen Anne, chapter 7, intituled "An Act to pre-
vent the disturbing those of the Episcopal Communion in
that part of Great. Britain called Scotland, in the exercise of their
religious worship, . and in the use of the Liturgy of the Church of
England; and for repealing the Act, passed in the Parliament of
Scotland, intituled • An Act against irregular Baptisms and Mar-
riages,' do, at some time during the exercise of Divine Service in
their churches, congregations, or assemblies, on Sunday, the 31st
day of May instant, or on the Sunday after the ministers or
preachers of such ell urehes, congregations, or assemblies, respec-
tively, shall be enabled so to do, put up prayers and thanks-
givings to Almighty God for Her Majesty's safe delivery of a
Princess. WM. L. BATHURST.
LORD CHAMBERLAIN',I.OFFICE, MAY 18.

Notice is hereby given, that Her Majesty's birth-day will be cele-
brated on Tuesday the 9th of June next.
WHITEHALL, MAI 23, 1846. _

The Queen has been pleased to grant unto the Hon. and Rev.
George Neville Gren ille, Master of Arts, the deanery of her Ma-
jesty's Chapel Royal in the Castle of Windsor, with the Registry of
the Knights of the Most Noble Order of the Garter thereunto an-
nexed, the same being void by the death of the lion. Dr. Henry
Lewis Hobart, late Dean thereof.
FOREIGN-OFFICE, MAY 23.
The Queen has been graciously pleased to app,?int Sir George
Baillie Hamilton, K now Secretary to her Majesty's Legation
at Berlin, to be her Majesty's Minister Plenipotentiary to the Grand
Duke of Tuscany.
The Queen has also been graciously pleased to appoint Henry
Francis Howard, Esq., now Secretary to her Majesty's Legation at
the Hague, to be Secretary to her Majesty's Legation at Berlin,
The Queen Las also been graciously pleased to appoint the Hon.
Henry George Howard, now First Paid Attache to her Majesty's
Embassy at Paris, to be Secretary to her Majesty's Legation at the
Hague.

THE SUN, LOYDON, TUESDAY EVENING, MAY 26, 1846