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S N, APRIL 18, 1848.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock.

RELIEF .
The Earl of ARUNDEL W andORKS SURREY wished to
ask the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, in the absence of his lion. Friend the Mem-
ber for Limerick, whether the number of paid clerks and
others employed on the public works in Ireland had been
dismissed; and if so, whether they had been dismissed
in consequence of misconduct, and how the Government
proposed to supply their place?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said
some of the persons named had been dismissed, not from
bad conduct, but because the work they had been em-
ployed to perform had been completed.
PRESERVATION OF THE PEACE IN IRE-

In reply to Mr. LAND.
Hamilton, Sir G. GREY read a
letter from the Lord-Lieutenant, stating that at a meet-
ing of the respectable inhabitants of Dublin, held
on the sth instant, a resolution was passed, calling upon
all that are desirous to preserve the peace to enrol
themselves into an association for that purpose. He had
given his permission; and no doubt the greatest good
would not fail to result from such a proceeding.
lie might state that all armed associations were un-
lawful unless they received the sanction of the Crown.
NEW ZEALAND.
In reply to Mr. BOUVERIE,
Mr. HAWES stated that papers on this subject would
be laid on the table in a very short time.
IRELAND.
Mr. HUME wished to know if it was the intention of
the Government to enrol armed clubs in Ireland? If
anything could do mischief in such a country as Ireland,
it would be the arming of one class against another.
Sir G. GREY said the Lord-Lieutenant wished
expressly to guard against such a proceeding._
(Laughter.) He intended to give all the encouragement
he could to those who wished to protect the peace.
THE ADJOURNMENT OF THB HOUSE.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL—Sir, I beg to give notice
that I shall move that the House, at its rising, shall
adjourn until Saturday next. After Easter I shall move
that the orders of the day take precedence of the other
motions, on Thursdays.—[lt may be right to state that
there is a Commission on Saturday, on which day, no
adjourn.
doubt, the Noble Lord will propose a further
ment for the Easter holidays.]
THE ALLEGED MEETING AT BLACKorHEeteTrI
ms
Mr. O'CONNOR read a letter from j.G
Napier, stating that, on inquiry, be found that a meeting
of a small number of persons bad taken place at
Black-
heath. This explanation was due to the Times and to
the Gallant Officer.
GOVERNMENT PROTECTION BILL.
Oni the order of the day being read for the third
reading of the Bill,
Mr. HUME rose, and proposed as an amendment that
the third reading be postponed until this day six months.
The Government were much to blame for hurrying on
this Bill. They would ultimately find it productive of
the greatest mischief, and then they would regret that
they did not address themselves to the real evils of Ire-
land, with the view of placing her in the same position
as England.
Sir DE LACY EVANS seconded the amendment.
This country and Ireland stood in need of far more im-
portant and useful measures than the one before the
House. For instance, there was the extension of the
suffrage. The Gallant Member denied that he said he was
prepared to place himself at the head of 100,000 men,
and to demand, as their leader, an extension of the suf-
frage. If ho had said that 100,000 men were ready to
march upon London, it was not as bad as the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman (Mr. O'Connor) advising 100,000
men to march to the House.
Mr. O'CONNOR opposed the Bill. He threw back
the taunt of the Gallant General, and would put
this question ;to him,--" What would the House have
said of him if he had not gone to Kennington-com-
mon and advised the people not to carry out
their intention, as, flushed with hope, they might
have done if he had not gone?" The recent charge of
Mr. Justice Crampton was a noble and a fair one, but
whilst he told the traversers that they might be tried
by a petty jury, the Chartists here were treated to
special juries. The law had been found equally stringent
for the punishment of himself and others, and, therefore,
he was at a loss to understand why a new law was
required. At those trials policemen were brought for-
ward who stated that they hall taken down the words
for . wWh he and others were prosecuted fourteen
or sixteen days after, and sometimes from the
lips of some person who had heard them.
The people of this country were taunted with physical
force ; he had always deprecated it, and always
would ; but it he would pursue such a course, that
was no reason why others should. Foreign countries
were now giving to their people such constitutions
as the Charter asked for. He bad always supported the
constitution of England; but of this he was certain,
that the moment the liberty of speech was done away with
the spirit of the English constitution would be but a mere
xhadow. lie had been for many years a disciple of the
Noble Lord at the head of the Government, but how
could he continue to be so when he projected such
Bills as the present? Nothing had been done for
Ireland by the present Government, and all those
measures that had been proposed with respect to that
country had been postponed for the purpose of proceed
ing with the gagging Bill. When the Bill had
become law he would do what he had never
done before, write all his speeches, read
them to every meeting he attended, and them send them
with his compliments to the Attorney- General, in order
that he might preserve them as elegant extracts.—
(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) He wished to see the
Noble Lord at the head of the Government rather
than any other man—(Hear, hear)—and he
asked him not to sully his fair fame and that
of his ancestors by passing such a Bill as the
present. lie viewed with horror and terror the
precedent that would be set by this Bill. It
would be a gagging Bill to the people now,
but the Noble Lord might depend upon it, it would be
a gagging Bill to him hereafter.—(hear, hear.) ills
did not seek for republicanism ; he never did; he
did not want to feed a lazy labouring class,
and never did ; but what he wanted was, that
every man should have his rights and fair re-
muneration for his work.—(Hear, hear.) He should
join with the Honourable Member for Montrose in
opposing the third reading of this Bill.
He was glad that an opposition had been
organized against the Government, and that the
Hon. Member for Montrose was at its head; but he
begged to remind that opposition, that if they meant to
be successful in it they must carry it on bravely.
Mr. IIEADLAM opposed the third reading of the
Bill. lle thought that in discussing political matters
the greatest latitude of speech should be allowed, and
that any attempt to prevent it would be an in-
jury to the constitution. He thought that the law
ought not to be made stringent except when an attempt
was made to excite to treason.
Mr. K. SEYMER supported the third reading of
the Bill, aid he believed, in doing so, be ac-
corded with the wishes of the whole of
his constituents. lie regretted the delay that bad takes
place iu the introduction of the measure, because he
thought it would prevent it from being maturely dis-
cussed in another place.—(llsear, hear.) He re-
gretted also that Ministers, with the large majorities
they had had on this question shOuld have so far given
way to the democratic party in that House as to make
the measure only to exist for a certain period, and not
permanent. Lie thought that showed weakness and a
fear which Ministers ought not to entertain.
Mr. P. WOOD would enter hie final opposition to the
third reading of the Bill, believing it to be unconstitu-
tional and calculated to produce the worst effects,
inasmuch as its provisions turned misdemeanour into
felony as long as the words " open and advised speak-
ing" remained part of it.
Mr. ADDERLEY supported the third reading of the
file could not understand in what way this Bill
could interfere with the rights of discussion. It would
not prevent the people from discussing the Charter, nor
would it prevent agitation for reforming the institutions
of the country; but it would very properly put a
atop to the violent and extravagant exhortations
of such ranters as the Mitchell triumvirate.—(Hear,
hear, and cheers.) It was essential for the peace
of society that such a law as this should be established,
and so far from its being calculated to infringe the
rights of the people, it would teach them how to use the
many privileges they already possessed.—(Hear, hear.)
If the noisy seditionists against whom this measure was
more immediately directed, would turn their attention
to improve the condition of the poor people whom they
might come in contact with, they would do far more good
than in preaching open violence and sedition to large
multitudes of people.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. MITCHELL had paid great attention to the va-
rious legal opinions that had been given upon this Bill,
and he must confess that they appeared to be more in fa-
vour than against the Bill. He did not see the wisdom
of being guided by the precedents of their ancestors,
and if a new offence sprung up they ought to provide a
punishment without a moment's delay. Seditious
mouthers were most contemptible in his opinion,
and he would venture to assert that the
three men who had been preaching open rebellion in
Ireland would be the first to fly in the event of an out-
break.—(llear, hear.) It was of the utmost importance
that this country should secure its internal peace. .let
it only remain quiet for the next few years, refraining
from interfering with the affairs of foreign nations,
and
preserving peace at home, and it would receive for its
a cruel
thing reward the whole of the trade of Europe. It ws
thing that they were to allow the trade ofthescountry
to be depressed for the sake of a few Chartisti,is most
agitators,
and for these reasons he should give cordial
B
support to the third reading of the Bill'
ready to support a motion for extending thesuv'ff.arsago
gueitte
all householders, but be never couldge i
of
fe h
theis c
trade o u n t e
on
fa n
thece
'to a foolish agitation, at the expense
country.—(Cheers)
here was no difference he-
lix' ki°ltsigall said t
onto of this Bill and those
*on the views of the oPPon