The Sun.
London, England, 1846-03-24 00:00:00

Dirt Wirittton

SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock,

(THIS DAY.)

BANDON AND BAIt"fRY RAILWAY,

('ORK, At ACROOIL AN I) K I LLARNEY

I;ftOUP Ix

GRAND JUNCTION HARBOUR TERMINUS

(Coutinw.d from our Afternoon Edition.)

The CiIAIRMAN said, that before the witness for the Grand June.
Con scheme were called, he wished to examine the Glasgow Ilar.
hour-master, respecting the three Claes, as he understood he was it
the roam.

In crow-examination the witness athnitted that last year he had
been one to a report decidedly objecting to rails being laid along the
qulys, and also to coals being shipped at the same place with the
general trade. Ile thought, however, that, the General Terminus
was not liable to the objection contained in that report, as the latter
referred to the crowded parts of the north side of the river.
The evidence on behalf of the flrand Junction was then proceeded
with.

Mr. Binnie, laud surveyor and builder, was called, and briefly
examined as to the value of the land. Ile set it down at about
but 11,800/. of it would be available to be sold, and hence
the real cost would be but 19,7001. This estimate included the land
ter the depot, and also covered all damages done to property.
No point of material importance was elicited by the cross-exami-
nation.

Mr. Broome, contractor, next examined. He agreed with Mr.
Binnie's estimate of land. Witness had valued the works and set
them down at :32,8001., exclusive of rails, sleepers, or chains.
Mr. J. M'Culloch, was called, and examined simply as to the cor-
rectitces of the previous evidence, which he corroborated.

Mr. Gale, civil engineer, examined. He said the present line was
elm of the best he could devise. It did not much interfere with the
buildings in the neighbourhood, and these were buildings of an in-
ferior character. The gradients on the banks that approached the
harbour, were 110 each respectively. The gradient at the connexion
with the Pollock and Govan railway, was ene in 77; and that
in connexion with the Barrhead and Neilston line,
was one in 63, the other gradients were very easy.
the sharpest curve on the forks was a radius of Ave chains, and o❑
the main line a radious of seven chains. These were not engineering
difficulties in a mineral line. His estimate of cost was 61,6811., that
would meet all expenses.
In cross-examination witness said there would be no danger on
such curves or gradients, as they would be worked slow. They
might go safely at the rate of tan miles an hour. Horse power was
proposed for portion along the quays.
The Committee then adjourned at half-past four o'clock, till halt--
past twelve o'clock to-morrow.

GROUP X 11.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
40,7215G0'27, PAISLEY, HILDIA.RNOCIC, AND
f-711, No. 111. (LAMPITS AND LESMA.HA-
GOV" BRANCHES).
Mr. Hope and Sir Thomas Phillips were for the promoters ; Mr.
A tistin and Mr. Gregg for the opponents.
Sir T. PHILLIPS objected to Mr. Austin, as having no locus stand;,
his line not being a competing oue.
Mr. AL'iTIN replied, and the Committee decided that the lines should
be heard together.
Sir Thomas Phillips then described the course of the line front
Kilmarnoch to Strathaven. The length was seventeen miles, nine
miles of which was through a rich mineral country. The estimated
cost was 230,0f:01., and by It a connexion would be formed between
the eastern and southern districts of Scotland, and the important
ports on tile west.

Mr. John Hamilton, of Braehead, factor to his Grace the Duke of
Portland, proved his Grace's assent to tt;e formation of this line,
n filch was greatly calculated to develop the resources of the mineral
century around Galston ant others of his Grace's manors. The count ry
was a very rich agricultural one, and studded with populous vil-
lages, which would be greatly benefited by this line. For want of
such accommodation, the goods from Galston, and other towns in
Ayrshire, were obliged to be carted to Glasgow.
Mr. Charles Brown, coach proprietor, Kilmarnock, said that four
coaches left that town for the towns of Nem-Mins, Darvel, and (kil-
oton, and he calculated the passengers at about 30,000 a year. The
passengers travelling by cars he supposed about.from 9,000 to 10,000.
There was also a large trade in agricultural produce.
Mr. W. HENDERSOM, residing in Hamilton, said that 2,400 cattle
were sent annually to Itntherglen, and GO per week to Glasgow.
There were lime fields in the district much used for agricultural pur-
poses.

CHRISTIE proved that the minerals in the district through
which the line was proposed to pass were of the most valuable
character. lie estimated the traffic in minerals alone at above
6,0001., which he conceived would be trebled in 10 years.
Dlr. William Anderson, traffic-taker, proved the returns of traffic
trtween Strathaven and Kilmarnock. The total revenue in passen-
gers, goods, minerals, and parcels, was 16,314/. IRA. gd.
This closed the traffic evidence.
Mr. James Home estin ated the value of land and Intersectional
damage at 22,7001.

sald that the length of the line was eighteen
miles. The esthnated expense, inducing land, was 230,000/. The
heaviest gradient on the libe was one in forty-seven ; avid he
had hot one level crossing, at a point where It was intended to place
a station. It was Intended to hare the use of an asslstaut engine
to propel heavy trains. The expense of working this line he calcu-
lated at 33';4 per cent. Ile was certain that no better hue could be
la7d out.

The tahl, of ,toents and ilksetltq was then pnt iu
The Committee then adintirned.

GROUP XIV.
NORTH XMNT LIMO
(continued from our Afternoon Edittou.)

The Cif ATRUAN said that the Committee had decided to adhere to
the practice of former Committees, and should allow the North Kent
line, when the tine came, to produce any evidence they might please
against the South-Eastern line.
Mr. Valiance, cross-examined by Mr. GOLDSSIID, stated that he is
solicitor to the Greenwich Railway Company. In 1841 he received
a proposition from Mr. Vignoles, and a similar one from the South
Eastern Railway Company. Was in possession of the proposition of
the North Kent Railway before the South-Eastern Railway.
Mr. Miller stated that he Is a civil engineer, and has had a good
deal of experience in the construction of railways. His attention has
been directed to North Kent, with a view to the formation of a
railway. Has examined the line of railway proposed by Mr. 'trig-
Holes. Thinks that it is laid out so as to meet the wants of the
district. The stratum through which cuttings will have to be made
is flivourable. The estimates made by Mr. Vignoles appear to be
amply sufficient for the work. The line passes within 180
yards of a powder-mill, but did not consider that it is
dangerous. Is constructing a line In Scotland which passes
much nearer to a very large powder mill. The Lord Advocate has
examined that part of the line, and, aided by competent advisers, has
Pronounced it to be quite safe.
By Mr. AUSTIN—Went down to view the line on Saturday morn-
ing, and returned on Sunday evening. If the work of the line is of the
kind inserted in the estimates, the prices are amply sufficient. The
line he is constructieg in Scotland passes quite close to the powder
mils on both cuttings and embankments.
Mr. Locke stated that he had been over the North Kent line, and
heti examined it rather particularly. Is of opinion that the line is
very well laid out, and passes through good soil. There is no diffi-
culty in the works, and the estimates appear ample for the works to
be executed.
By Mr. Cocuaraw, Who appeared on the part of the South-Eastern
Railway—Has examined the line about three weets ago, and w engaged two days in the survey. There is some clay on the surface as
the soil, but not much. It does not go to any depth. Balton-
h:11 Is the place where the heaviest works are on the line. The gradient
on the North Kent lineis lin 2,
email-Eastern, where it is 1 in 80 or 90. 13 tout it is worse on the
By Sir W. RIDDLE (who appeared for the promoters}—The works
near the fortification at Chatham are rather expel,'
ve, but very sub-
stantial.
James Hairy Andrews stated that he made some boring near
Balton-hill, to examine the strata. On the west s:de of the
hill
nine feet of yellow clay, then twenty-seven feet of black clay, twhassi
srx feet or sand, a thin layer of sandstone, a thin layer of
six feet of blue, sand, seven feet of red sand, twenty-three feet of
sharp sand,
and forty feet of blue sand. The total depth of the shaft
was 121 feet.
By Mr. _ALEXANDER (who appeared for the South-Eastern lines

Has been occupied before in boring through geological strata,
sunk two shafts with a distance of 5-Bths or a mile between them.
The depth of one shaft was 121 feet and the other 100 feet. Both
shafts are In the ce►.tre of the proposed tunnel. In tke eastern
tunnel there is oa the surface four feet of yellow clay, sixteen feet of
black clay, seven feet of white sand, five feet of veiny sand, five feet
red sand and sandstone, seven feet of shard red sand, one foot of
iron stone, fifteen feet. of sharp, clear sand, and thiriy-eight feet of
e sand.
Mr. llawkshaw stated that he Is an engineer. Has been over the
line laid down by Mr. Vignoles, and has found that it is well laid j
down.

Cross-examined by Bin LAING (who appeared against the pro-
jez:ed line)-11as had a good deal of experience in the management
of amalgamation in railway companies. Has expressed himself in
lavour of having a number of railways under one system of manage-
ment. Thinks it generally advisable that short lines should be at-
tached to the most important line In their neighbourhood. The
North Kent lino is one of more importance than the South-Eastern.
Does not thick that any benefit caused by competition would be
equal to that of united management. Conspetion would make the
Co:npany more active.
The CHAIRMAN intimated that this course of examination was not
regular.
Mr. Essen, examined by 31r. GOED9MID—Is the solicitor to the
Bridgewater Railway Company. In 1844 received a proposition from
the North Kent Comixtli y. Had not at that time received any pro-
position from the South-Eastern Company.
By Mr. COCKBURN—Became agent for the Bridgewater Railway
Company during last session.
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By (I:oLD:min—libe Admiralty had given its consent to the
bridge at Rochester, as proposed by the North Kent Railway
Company.
Mr. Unmet, examined by Mr Tateor7.'in support of the line)—
Ilse examined seYeral points of the proposed line, particularly the
works at Chatham and thelMton Tunnel, Has examined the strata

RAILWAY COMMITTEES

HOUSE OF LORDS.
Their Lord,ihips then thrilled themselves into a Committee Cl
meriti.

In this case the Committee decided that the preamble had been
proved, but adjourned the case till Thursday for the engineer's report
upon the crossing of levelA and amending the schedule of tolls.

The Committee came to a like tlecision in this case, and ad;ounic,
it for the want of the same evidence.
BALLYMENA AND BALLYMONEY.

This Bill passed through the Committee, and will lie reported to
the Brum and set down for a third resdhtg.
The Committee then adjourned.

110 USE OF COMMONS.
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EraNzuRGH AND NORTHERN.
The Committee who have charge of Group No. 6 sat at twelv•,
o'clock, in the Court of Queen's tench, Sir John Hobson chairman.
The objects of she line are to make branches to the harbour of Perth
and Pettycar, and to pass close to the town of Dysart by means of a
deviation. The line came before a Committee last session, and
a Bill was procured, but the line was prohibited to be made
until the parties should procure the permission of the
town council of Perth, as the branches proposed to pass
through certain property, relict the Inches, belonging to the Corp ra-
tion of Perth. This appor,l the Compauy had now procured, a' d
proposed to insert a clause hi their Bill to that effect. A short time
:ificr the general case n d been openrd, the Court was cleared, and
on lie re-admission of the parties,
The CuantalAN said, that as It appeared to the Committee that the
parties were net in a fit state of preparation they would adjourn
until Thursday.
Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS said he was prepared to go on with the
branches, and that he understood there would be no competition.
The Committee agreed to hear the case, and the Learned Sergeant
proceeded to state it. He placed a map before the Committee, by
which he said it appeared that the branch to Perth did touch a corner
of one of the Inches, which gave the Perth authorities a locus stand i
before the Committee.
Mr. Granger, engineer, was then examined—He deposed that the
proposed line of last year ryas objected to by Lord Rossiya in con-
\ sequence of its too close proximity to Dysart House ; but in the pre-
sent plan the line was altered so as to remove that objection ; it
would be of great importance to all the lines to have the branch to
Perth harbour made, and it was proposed to work it by horse power.
The Scottish Central Company proposed to make the line from the
liarbour- to the mouth of the tunnel ; this Company proposed to make
the same line last year, but both were abandoned in consequence of
its proximity to the Penitentiary. The Central Company had re-
newed their proposal this year.
Mr. PICKERING said he appeared on behalf of the Central Scottish
Company to oppose this branch.
Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS said that no opposition could be entertained
unless it tame before the Committee either as a petition or a com-
peting line ; but the Scottish Central did not appear in either capacity.
Mr. PICKERING said that the Edinburgh and Northern Company
had not, either by their Bill of last year or this, taken power to
build their South-Eastern Station In the place indicated by the
map.
Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS said that he would withdraw the branch
to the harbour, as he now understood there was a competing line ;
but with respect to the other twe branches there was no opposition
Mr. PicKamiNG suggested a postponement of the other branches fix
the present, as another Bill would come before the Committee which
would materially affect the proposed position of the Perth termini
and stations.
Mr. Sergeant Bm.r.asts said his Learned Friend did not appear in
any capacity against the other two branches, and therefore he would
suggest that the Committee should dispose of them.
The Comnhtee then declared the preamble of the Bill proved, and
agreed, :it the request of Mr. Sergeant Bellasis, to postpone the coo-
sideratien of the clauses until to-morrow morning.
Mr. PlesEitiso said lie would oppose some of the clauses.
PERTH AND CRIEI'P MINE.
A protracted discussion took place upon the question as to whether
this Bill should be proceeded with to-day.
Tie object of this line is to make a branch from the Scottish Cen-
tral Line to Blockihrd; the length, IS runes ; the branch 7 miles ;
and the estimated cost 300,000/.
flue Committee finally agreed to adjourn the case till to-morrow.

Mr. Wifliain Johnstone was then called and examined by the
CHAIRMAN—Iie had been Harbour-Master for 17 years. Wltlmis's
evidence was pi spbstan,a to the effect, that the general terminus.

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was deeideelly superior to the other two. The general terminii:
would pose all the advantages without the disadvantages of the
paters. The Grand Junction was too high and the Ilarlionr
Mine -al too I.)w. The General Terminus was 1,000 feet below the
present quay on the south side.