The Sun.
London, England, 1848-04-19 00:00:00

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that he did not think that he should be justified in
sacrificing that portion of the revenue which would be
sacrificed if the provisions of this Bill were carried out.
,--(Hear, hear.) The duties upon game certificates
amounted, in round numbers, to about 160,0001., and he
did not know to what extent that sum might be affected
by this Bill.
Mr. BRIGHT said that it appeared to him that
the object of this Bill was simply to afford power
to any farmers to shoot hares upon their own
land, provided they could obtain the consent of their
landlords to do EO. The provisions of the Bill would
not in the least degree affect the real grievances which
were disclosed by the labours of the Committee which
sat upon that subject last year and the year be-
fore. The Bill simply propostd that the annual
duty of about 41. per annum should be remitted
to such persons as could obtain the consent of their land-
owners to shoot hares upon their own land; and it also
proposed to place rabbits upon the same footing as
hares; and it would not have the least effect upon the
diminution of the crimes and outrages consequent upon
the preservation of game. He thought that it was
the duty of the House to treat :the question in a
wider and more extensive manner; and if the Right
Honourable Baronet the Secretary of State dis-
approved of the plan which he (Mr, Bright)
had proposed he ought to bring forwat d some compre-
hensive measure on the subject. He sh nild recommend,
therefore, that the present Bill should Je withdrawn, in
order to give an opportunity for the overnment to in-
troduce a measure upon the subject.
Sir J. TYRELL said that the Hon. Member for Man-
chester ought to be content with having obtained his
Committee to inquire into the operation of the Game
Laws, because he believed it was the intention of the Hun.
Member to use the abolition of the Game Laws as a mere
lever upon which he would hang the abolition of the corn.
laws. The latter object having !seen obtained, he thought
that the Hon. Member might now rest contented upon the
former question. He did not think that the country was
prepared or would accept of any such comprehensive
measure as that hinted at by the Hon. Member for Man-
chester, for the wholesale destruction of the rights of
property.
Mr. BRIGHT said that he had never to his know-

ledge expressed it as his reason for proposing to abolish
the game-laws in order to obtain the abolition of the
corn-laws. The first thing which led him to take an
active part against those laws was the fact of five
persons being convicted for the murder of Lord Derby's
gamekeeper.
Mr H. BERKLEY said that ho differed very widely
from the extreme opinion expre rssed by the Hon. Mem-
ber for Manchester upon the subject of the game- laws.
That Hon. Member's sympathies were always enlisted
on the side of the murderer, his cry was always '•another
victim to the bloody game-laws," but DO notice what-
ever was taken of the old and faithful servant who
was perhaps cruelly* and brutally murdered by the mur-
derer, but so soon as the assassin was led to the foot of
the gallows, immediately the Hon. Member set up his
psurdo sentimental whine.—(Cheers.)
Mr. S. CRAWFOED thought that the present Rill
was a delusion, and would not go to the root of the
evil; and any Bill vO-ich did not. give to every person
the right to kill for h's own food any animal which fed
upon his property, would prove utterly valueless.
Colonel SIBTHOFF said he had been told that one
of the most intimat friends of the Honourable Member
for Manchester was one of the first shots in the country;
and that a great quantity of the game shot by that gen-
tleman found its way to the Honourable Member for
Manchester's table, He thought if such were so, that
the Hon. Member ought to be the last person to find
fault with the protection of game, seeing that it
afforded to himself a cheap and wholesome substitute
for other food.—(Great laughter.) He should most
certainly oppose this Bill in every stage of it, upon the
ground of the preservation of property, not upon the
ground that he was fond of game, for he would much
rather have a plump barn-door fowl than all the game
in the country.—(Laughter.)
Sir H. VERNEY was understood to say that he
should give his support to the Bill.
After a few words from Mr. ADDERLEY,
The HoN. MEMBER withdrew his motion, and the
House went into Committee on the Bill.
After some discussion, in which the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, Sir W. Joliffe, the Earl of March, Mr.
Colville, and several other Hon. Members, took part, the
first clause was agreed to, with several verbal amend
ments. _

Upon clause 2 being proposed,
Mr. G. BERKELEY moved to leave out from the
words "by coursing" to the end of the clause for the
purpose of adding the words " with fire-arms or guns
of any description."
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sug-
gested that the Hon. Member should withdraw his
amendment, and embody it in a fresh :plause, and not
mix up two entirely different things in one clause.
Mr. G BERKELEY then withdrew fiis amendment.
At this stage of the proceedings,
Mr. i3ERNAL informed the House that, in conse-
quence of some error in the title of the Bill, making it
applicable to owners, it was not competent to insert the
amendments having reference to occupiers.
After some discussion the House resumed, the Chair-
man reported progress, and, on the motion of Mr.
COLVILE, it was ordered that it be an instruction
to the Committee to insert the words " owners and occu-
piers of land."
The House then went into Committee, and the various
amendments were agreed to, and clauses 1 to 3 as
amended were ordered to stand part of the 'l3ill.
Upon clause 4 being proposed,
Mr. G. BERKELEY proposed to add tii the end of
the clause the words, "or for any person npt baying a
game certificate to use any fire-arms or guns of any de-
scription for the purpose of killing any game or hates."
After some discussion the Committee divided, when
there appeared—
For the amendment
Against it
Majority in favour of it —s
The clause, as amended, was then agreed to, and
ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Clause 5 was agreed to; clauses 6 and 7 were struck
out; clauses 8 and 9 were agreed to.
The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the
Chairman instructed to report progress.
The House having resumed, the Chairman reported
accordingly, and the report was ordered to be brought up
on the Ist of May.
CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL.
Mr. ANSTEY trusted that the Government would
appoint an early day for renewing the adjourned debate
on the Catholic Relief Bill.
Sir G. GREY said that he could not hold out any
hope for appointing an early day for the consideration
of the measure.
Mr. ANSTEY then gave notice for the 31st of May
for the resumption of the adjourned debate.
PETTY BAG OFFICE BILL.

This Bill went through Committee, and was ordered
to be brought up.
POOR HOUSES (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill also went through Committee, and was
ordered to be reported on the Ist of May.
PUBLIC HEALTH BILL.

The Committee upon this Bill was postponed till
Friday, the sth of May.
JEWISH DISABILITIES BILL.
The third reading of this Bill was postponed until
Thursday, the 4th of May.
COLLECTOR OF CESS (IRELAND) BILL.
The second reading of this Bill was postponed to
Wednesday, the 3d of May.
INSOLVVT DEBTORS (INDIA) BILL.
' This Bill Virelirbrough Committee, the various clau'es
with amendments agreed to, and the report was ordered
to be brought up on Monday, the Ist of May.
DISTILLING FROM SUGAR BILL.
The fuither consideration of the report upon this
Bill was postponed until Monday, Ist of May.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of,
and the House adjourned at Six o'clock until Saturday
next.