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the present immense National Debt, which he would
venture to say would not have been half what it was, if
treaties had been properly attended to. England had
guaranteed the existence of the provinces which were
now sought to be taken from her by Prussia to Den-
mark, in the reign of George 1., by the treaty of Gotha
of 1720. The language of that treaty admitted of
no doubt, and it had been recognised by England
over and over again, especially at the time when the in-
vasion of the Duchies were threatened by Russia. It
had been argued by the Prussian Minister in the work
he had published on the subject, that the guarantee was
only against the measures of the Duke of Gotha, and
that it was a limited guarantee. In that work the
guarantee had not been faithfully quoted, for
instead of its being limited it was general. He
was astonished that a person of the sound sense
of the Prussian Minister should have drawn up such
a document for the perusal of the English Minister for
Foreign Affairs. He had now stated the facts of what
had taken glace, and he would now advert to the results
of the course that had been or was to be adopted by this
country. There could be no doubt that England had
given this guarantee, and it was her duty to fulfil it.
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that she had guaranteed Schleswig and Holstein to Den-
mark, and she could not countenance the outrageous
conduct she had pursued?—(Hear, hear.) The Hon.
Member concluded by stating that his only object
in bringing forward this motion was, in order that
the matter might be sees right as far as England was
concerned, and by expsing a hope that in the occur-
peace and justice mi.—(ght be maintained in Europe
rences that had taken place God would defend the right,
and that
by the power of England Hear, hear.)
Lord PALMERSTON then rose to address the House,
and after fully admitting the right and justice of the
Honourable Member to bring forward the subject,
observed that there were certainly circumstances
connected with the history of Denmark which made
anything that affected the welfare of that state pecu-
liarly interesting to all persons of high feeling and ho-
nourable minds. No state, he admitted, had
suffered more than Denmark bad done, and 1,
had been the lot of England to be drawn
into acts of hostility to Denmark. With regard
to the question itself which was involved in these trans-
actions, he trusted the House would excuse him
if be abstained from following the lion. Member
by any arguments either on the one side or
the other. A question of right had arisen by the
German Confederation on the one hand and Denmark on
the other, and that question was confined to Schles •
wig. With regard to. Holstein no questh n
existed, as that province had long remained
part of the German Confederation. With regard
to Schleswig, the German Confederation con-
tended that by ancient acts, and agreements, and trans-
actions, Schleswig was inseparably united to
Holstein. and that it must follow its for
tunes. The Danish Government, on the other hand,
contended that it had the right to require that
Schleswig should follow the line of succession of Den-
mark, and it was upon that question chit fly that difference
had arisen. Now, as her Majesty's Government had
signified to the two parties—Denmark on the one
hand and Prussia on the other—their willingness
to undertake the task of endeavouring to settle
this question amicably, it must be obvious to the House
that it would be unfitting for him to express any opinion
on which side the merit and right was. The Hon. Gentle
man opposite, in his opinion, had exercised a proper dis-
cretion in calling the attention of the House and the
country to the engagements which this country had
entered into with regard to Schleswig. He had with
him the original treaty upon which the gua
rantee was given, and he was bound to confess
that the Hon. Member had quoted the words accurately,
and that therefore it was not necessary for him to read
them again. He was perfectly ready to concur with
him, and with what appeared to be the general
sense and opinion of the House, that it was the duty of
England, and essentially to her honour, to see that en-
gagements that had been entered into were made good.
The Hon. Gentleman, however, must permit him to
say that the guarantee given by England was also
given upon the same occasion by France. Not only,
therefore, was this country bound with is engagement
to Denmark with regard to Schleswig, but whatever
engagement England had entered into had been taken
up, and in exactly the same words, by the French
Government.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman
had adverted to the course pursued in reference
to the subject by a person for whom he (Lord Pal-
merston) had the honour to feel the greatest respect and
attachment. The Prussian Minister, in publishing the
pamphlet which the Hon. Member had alluded to in the
course of his speech, had no doubt been actuated by
the bestemotives, and all he could say was, thatalthoue h
the Hon. Member might differ with the arguments and
course of reasoning which he had found in the pamphlet,
he had no right to censure the Chevalier Bunsen for
having published. Let the House just consider that the
Chevalier was sent here to watch over the rights of his
Government, and he thought no man in that House
would be diposad to blame the Chevallier for publishing
what he considers to be the views of the Prussian
Government in reference to a particular matter likely
to give rise to discussion. (Hear, hear.) He
would not now, as he said before, enter into any
arguments in reference to those views; but he could not
refrain from saying that he thought the censure of the
Hon. Member was not altogether well founded.—
(Hear, hear.) He should say no more.—(Hear, hear.)
He had stated his perfect concurrence with the Hon.
Member, that the guarantees given by England ought to
be respected, but at the same time, he must add
what he had stated on a former occasion, that
whatever might be the right of either side, the purpose
of Prussia in entering Holstein, and in crossing the
island to Schleswig, was not to include Schleswig in the
power of Denmark, but to support a party in Schleswig
who upheld the ancient constitution, and demanded that
they should be incorporated and attached to Holstein,
instead of being incorporated and attached to Denmark.
He could only express his hope that matters would not
be pursued to extremities, or the consequence to Europe
might be most serious.. He sincerely trusted that the
dispute might be adjusted by an amicable negotiation
between the parties, and he sincerely hoped that the
statesmen of the two countries, viewing the dis-
turbed, troubled, and dangerous condition of
question things i inhichevery
could of Europe, would not allow
produce no practical result, and
a part
the settlement of which would be dependent upon a
contingency, to lead to effects which every reasonable
man must deplore.—(Cheers.)
Mr. COLQUHOUN believed the House much in-
debted to the Hone Member who had brought this
subject before them, and he had no doubt this discussion
would be productive of good results.—(Hear, hear.)
But the House must allow him, while he approved of the
maxims of the Noble Lord who had just sat down, to
denounce his actions. The House could not forget that
the treaty of Vienna, in reference to Cracow, had been
; but he hoped in future
disregardedtheNo wouldrd be consistent with his
maxims.—(Hear, hear.)
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The motion for the adjournment of the House was
then agreed to.
DUBLIN STEAM-PACKETS.

On the motion of Mr. FORSTER a copy of any pro
posal addressed to the Treasury by the City of Dublin
Steam• Packet Company, offering to run steam-packets
between Holyhead tied Dublin, and the reply of the
Treasury thereto, was ordered 19 be laid ,belore the
House.
IRISH POLICE.
On the motion of -Mr. CLEMENTS, the following
Fundretur in Ireland,nswereorderceodtrstilttgdrnbsi
ofActhther Police ic
ande Reward7e
Wi11.4, c. 13, s. 49, for the year-ending tl4''3lst day of De-
c, mber, 1847 ,• of the Police Superannuation Fund,
constituted under the Act 6 and 7 Will. 4, c. 13, s. 46,
for the year ending the 31st day of Decem-
ber, 1847 ; of the names of all persons not
given in previous returns, receiving pensions or
gratuities from either of the above funds, showing the
date in each case of the commencement of service, the
rank or employment of each individual, the cause and
date of retirement, the age of each person at the date
of retirement, and the amount received by each per
annum, or otherwise, as received from either it
the above funds, specifying on which fund the
charge is made. And, showing the number of
policemen in every county in Ireland who do not
perform the duties of constables, but are employed either
as clerks or officers' servants, have charge of horses or
otherwise; distinguishing the number of men in each
employment other than that of a constable, together with
the expense, including all pay and allowances of those
in each employment (in continuation of Parliamentary
Paper, No. 571, of Session 1847).
THE INDIAN WAR.
Sir DE LACY EVANS asked the President of the
Board of Control what decision has been come to on the
subject of an application understood to have been made
for the authority of Government relative to the grant of
a medal by the Court of East India Directors to the sur-
viving officers present in the victories of Assaye, Las-
warree, Burtpore, Mahidpore, and Ava.
Sir J. C. HOBLIOUSE said the matter had been re-
ferred to the Secretary of State for the Home Depart-
ment, and it was now under the Right Hon. Baronet's
consideration.
KILLING HARES BILL.
On the motion for going into Committee on the Game
Certificates for Killing Hares Bill,
Mr. ADDERLEY opposed he motion, on the ground
that if the Bill were passe the
it would give se to
endless disputes between landlord and tenants. If, how-
ever, the House determined to go into Committee, he
should move that it be an instruction to the Committee
to extend the operation of the Bill to enable oeeupiers
of land, having
a rig ht to kill game on that land, to do
so, by themselesor persons authorised by them, with-
out being required to take out a game certificate. It
was in his opinion,
however, much better to deal with
the question in a large and comprehensive measure,
such as that which the lion. .slember for Manchester
mould insist upon going into Committee
had already introduced.—(Thar, bear.)
Mr. GRANTLEY BERKELEY said he should give
the motion of the Hon. Gentleman the Member for
Staffordshire his most decided opposition.—(Hear.)
greatly
The Earl of MARCH trusted thu Hon. Member for
Derbyshire
on his Bill untrammelled with the instructions of the
Hon. Member for Staffordshire.
Mr. K. SEYMOUR supported the motion. The Bill
improve it.—(llear hear.)
Captain
was a step in the right direction, and the proposal of
his Hon. Friend the Member for Staffordshire would
HARRIS was 'favourable to the Bill as it
stood, but he was decidedly opposed to the principle of
the Hon. Member for Staffordshire.
Lord coLvinr . prineip.4l of the Hon.
Member for Staffordshire was utterly foreign to
the principle
of the Bill, and be should certainly resist