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at a quarter to twelve o'clock, the
atyuted till that hear, when the further
consideration of the
DUMFRIES. AND
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CARLISLE
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admission of the parties and counsel,
On the
The Ctiammeri said he had reselved a letter from Mr. Hope John-
stone, the Chairman of the Caledonian Railway COmpany, which he
had already submitted to the Committee, and which he
Would now
read. it was to the following effect :

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"Caledonian Railway-oflice 28, Parliament-street,
London, 22d July, 1846.
Lords,—As Chairman of the Caledonian Railway Company,
I feel it to be my duty to state to your Lordship, that the decision of
the Committee over which you preside has so greatly surprised the
parties interested in the Caledonian Railway, and has rendered our
position as opponents of the Dumfries Bill so difficult, that I venture
to solicit, through your Lordship, the permission to state the gounds on
which we would ask a reconsideration of thatdecision. 'would beg at
the same time to avail myselfof the opportunity of endeavouring to re-
move a mistaken impression which appears to have been made on your
Lordship and the other members of the Committee on the Glasgow,
Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway Bill, that we are desirous ofinterfer-
ing with the local accommodation of the country between Cumnock
and Dumfries. My object in now addressing your Lordship is to
allow that we have not any intention or wish to do so.
" It is true that we are in possession of evidence which we believe
will satisfy the Committee that the estimates of the cost of the line
in question are quite inadequate tor the construction of it, and that
the local traffic is not such as to maintain the railway independently
of through traffic. That evidence we propose to adduce to-morrow
and next day ; but our sole object in continuing the opposition is to
mr•otire to the Caledonian Railway that protection against competition
raappi issalt9, t 9 wiaida rvr MI simply etas wo otre eatillod, 70

show your Lordship that this is not merely our view, I would refer
to the marked passages in the ',accompanying report of the Board of
Trade cn these schemes last year.
" In evidence of this, [ may refer to proposals repeatedly made on
our part, both before and since the commencement of the proceedings
M the present session, that we would withdraw our opposition, pro-
vided the promoters of the undertaking would limit their line to the
town of Dunttries, leaving the Caledonian Company to complete the
communication between that town and Carlisle.
" I ant now about to afford to your Lordship and the Com-
mittee a farther proof of our sincerity by a still greater
concession on our part. The port of Annan has been represented
by the promoters as one important and essential terminus of their
line; and although we have heretofore considered ourselves entitled
to the measure of protection which a branch to Dumfries would
afford us, we are willing to withdraw our opposition to the proposed
line between Cumnock and Annan, if the remainder of the line from
Annan to Gretna be conceded to the Caledonian, together with the
Canobie branch. It is clear that the side branches from the main
line of the Caledonian Railway to Annan and to Canobie are within
the Caledonian Company's peculiar district, and we are prepared to
give any pledge the Committee may think pr per, that we shall next
section apply to Parliament for the requisite powers, and shall con-
struct these lines, in case any formal difficulty should prevent the
transfer of those portions of the proposed line to the Caledonian
Company by clauses in the gre.•ent Bill.
" We think that this proposition will afford a fair test of the sin-
eerity of the promoters of the Bill, in professing that they do not calcu-
late upon abstracting the through traffic of the Caledonian Company
If not agreed to by them, they cannot complain of our pursuing out
opposition to their whole line, possessing, as we believe we do, such
evid:nce as w ill satisfy the Committee that the grounds on which the
Bill is promoted are, in all the important points of cost and traffic,
perfectly untenable.

"On the other hand, if the promoters of the Bill should adopt our
proposition of a division at Annan, we undertake to withdraw our
evidence upou the main line from Cutunock to Annan, to that the
111,1 to that extent may be held as unopposed.
" I have, however, to state to 3 our Lordship that we have objee-
Cons of a peculiar character to what is called the Crawick Branch of
the Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle line, which, in any event, we
desire to lay before the Committee, but the evidence on which will be
comparatively short; and having explained that matter to the Com-
mittee, we shall willingly acquiesce in their decision on the subject
of the Crawick branch.
" I have the honour to be,my Lord, your obedient humble servant,
(Signed) "J. J. HOPE JOHNSTONE.
" To the Right Hon. the Earl of St. Germans, &c. &c."
The CHAIRMAN, having read the letter, handed It to Mr. Sergeint
Bellasis.

Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS said it was quite impossible for him to give
any answer to it, as he knew nothing whatever of the letter till that
moment, and had not consulted the parties for whom he appeared.
The CH/MEAN—Thou you had better withdraw to consult your
clients.

Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS—AII I can say Is that I have at present no
witnesses whatever.

Counsel and parties, at the request of the Chairman, then with-
drew, to consider the proposition contained in the letter.
After being absent about half au hour the parties returned, when
Mr. Sergeant BELL&SIS stated that after consulting with hie
clients he could not accede to the proposition contained in the
letter of Mr. Hope Johnstone. In the first place the pro-
moters of the Bill hat made an arrangement with the Ayrshire
Company for the leasing of the line, on the faith that the
whole of the main scheme would be carried out. In fact,
this was the essence of the scheme. If any part of the main line
was given up, it would be quite impossible to carry out that arrange-
ment. In the second place, his Grace the Duke of Buceleuch had
given his consent to the whole scheme, on the distinct understand-
ing that the Canobie branch should be constructed in connexion with
the main line. They were, therefore, bound to abide by this agree-
ment. In the third place, the Canobie branch, and; the portion
from Annan to Gretna, were the most profitable portions of the
whole scheme, and were necessary for the paying of the more
northern part. The Ayrshire and Dumfries people were anxious for
an efficient communication with the south, and that could not be
properly done, unless by full connexion with Carlisle. He was,
however, willing to make this arrangement. lie was willing,
by clauses to give the Caledonian Company special powers
to run over the Annan portion of their scheme and the
Canobie, if they in return allowed the present company to
run on similar terms over the portion of the Caledonian line between
Gretna and Carlisle. If they could not settle the terms on which
this mutual use of the respective lines was to be used, he was willing
that it should be referred to the Board of Trade.

Mr. TALBOT, on behalf of the Duke of Buceleuch, was rising to
protest against the arrangement proposed by the Caledonian Com-
pany, when -

COCKBURN interfered. He said the Learned Gentleman bad
no right to be heard, lie was only entitled to be heard if he eli°
peered against the line, but being a petitioner in its favour be could
not. Ha bad at present no right to interfere.
The Cnautuati said, if the promoters of the Bill bad listened to the
proposition, then the Learned Gentleman might have been heard.
As it was t.e could have no object to serve in speaking. He thought
Mr. Cockburn had better go on with his ease.
Mr. COCKBURN then proceeded to address the Committee. In,
doing so, he said he would proceed on the proposition which had
been submitted to the Committee, and while doing so he should, he
was sure, succeed in showing that the estimates of the works of the
Nitlisdale line were totally inadequate to the construction of the
whole line ; that, in fact, the capital was not more than sufficient
for the making of the line as far as Annan, and that it would be im-
possible for them to construct the whole of it, should the Committee
concede it to them. The Learned Gentleman was proceeding to
enter on the points he was about to prove in evidence, and going to
show that it would be advautaseous to the public, as well as the
parties interested, that the portion of the line south of Annan, along
with the Canobie branch, should be given to the Caledonian, whsa
Mr. Sergeant BELLasis interfered. He desired the Learned Gentle-
man to confine himself to the demerits of the Bill as per the decision
o' the Committee, and not to go into the question of the merits of the
two lines, ur the question which had been raised in the letter.
A discussion arose on the point whether or not Mr. Cockbara
should be allowed to go into this matter, which ended in the parties'
being requested to withdraw, to allow the Committee to deliberate
on it.

Room E

EXZTIIIi AND DORCHESTER.
Their Lordships met this morning at the usual hour.
Mr. T. Matchani, coach proprietor, of Andover, who was exaMilled,
by Mr. 2.lxitaxwrrnsa, gave evidence of the number of coaches an
the amount of traffic upon the old coach road, which had fallen ollf
very considerably since tie formation of the Great Western Bail-
way ; but in his opinion this traffic would again flow in the saln°
direction if the present railway were sanctioned. His occupation
brought him into communication with a considerable number of per"
sons, all of whom were anxious for the construction of this railway.
In his cross-examination by Mr. SLADE, he admitted that there
were only two coaches, as elusive of the mails, which went 0,6
whole distance to Exeter, via Andover.

_ .
Mr. T. Mortimer, tanner, of Andover, examined by Mr. MIMS*.
WETHEA— In conjunetion with his lather witness had carried on the
business of a tanner for a period of between thirty and lorty yeti;
Ile received from 300 to 600 tons of hides from Loudon every Y.":
and the expense of carriage of this article would be reduced abn
iive shillings per toll it the proposed railway were made.
Mr. w. Douitu, of Wallop, held a farm of about 600 acres, and
in
seeds.
He
wlaasbouinred
the
Newry,
of attending nbdiule
dgisradthn:
vantage in consequence of the want of railway places. The market of Andover dnetlartkeetitstoef"L'ovneldOn, 5a1gb,,,,..., Ar, ndover, New Reading and other
distance between W....f010p
quence of the high prices which the for the conveyance of
London for the purpose of havin
and Salisbury witiswunerdeeNa':eence°elnnsmiesd°de.r.olt_lin°,:clm.onse-ed
sow.,
b.
wstesmers at SouthtinifiTh.;;dto
gatvilied to send his to
Conveyed by affordw great
destination at Exeter. The peopesednirail v would ga facilities for the transmission or sheep t—C. Awa' . -",. fair,
one of the *Largest in England. There w;ndoveo
als other very large
fairs in that neighbourhood which woult ur,,. °dated bY the
railway.
The CRAlRstxx Intimated, at this stage of the proceedings, that
there was no necessity fcr multiplying evidence upon the question:.
traffic. The Committee had heard evidence from different perg.(4,7(
of various trades and occupations connected with the amount o[
which w
traffic, and it was reasonable to suppose that other branches of trade
were of the same nature. By a glance at the map and the coots:
the line proposed to take, it was self-evident that the ammull, ''''
traffic must be very large.
.. _

Mr. HILDYAIi) 8,714 that he was quite content to nft:et.
no further evidence on the subject, he only wished to protect
clients from any Injurious effects which might arise from his Learnt':
Friend, Mr. Talbot, bringing forward a large quantity of evidence.
and using against them the statement that they had not made out .
case for the necessity of tl.e line before the Committee.
Mr. TALBOT intimated that it was his intention to bring forward!
considerable amount of evidence bearing upon the district betvies'
Exeter and Yeovil.
The Caatatfax said that he had expressed the opinions of the
Committee upon the subject. The parties must, therefore, use thot
own discretion, and adopt that course which they thought pest
adapted to promote the interests of tile public.
Mr. Avery, of Honiton, grocer and wine merchant, and forMerlf $
coach proprietor, said that the feeling of the inhabitants of Bouiton
was unanimous in favour of the proposed line. He received abouti
140 tons of goods annually from London and other parts, Whl
would be conveyed by this railway at a less cost than he had to P"-'
at present.
Mr. Divett, M.P. for Exeter, one of the directors of the Bristol and
Exeter Railway, which was a broad gauge line, said he was certatniy
in favour of the broad gauge, but he thought that it was 0.7
tremely desirable in a public point of view that there should be....;
continuous line connecting the South-Western and South-Eastern
Railway on the narrow gauge; he thought such a railway
not only aflOrd great public accommodation, but it would also 11$'"
the effect of exercising a wholesome competition.
Cross-examined by Mr. TALBOT—It would be a most serious Ca"
lainity if Exeter were to be deprived of its present broad gauge cool:
;nnnicatiou with London. He believed that his constituents at
eter were almost entirely unanimous in favour of the proposed line,
and several public meetings had been held in that city in favour.
this line. He thought it very important that there should be A 11_11..
connecting Exeter with Plymouth and the other ports on the coeaare..
He did not think it probable that any negotiations could be entered
into by the directors et the Bristol and Exeter line with Mr. IlndT,'„,
without his cognizance. He thought there was no foundation for `'""
report of such a negotiation having been entered into.

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DEAR WALTON.—"
MELANCHOLY OCCURRENCE
lth'leitarliowEtte!
hsehwerast
thrown°.
..ii
to that port, with Lord Rib-
returning from Harwich regatta
binnial on board, the e-
following 01,,.
distance lie
..le •—Th d
'nt Kapp • eay was rather boisterf;
blesdale, and
lancholy accident
Walton, the owner. Mr. Harvey,
it,lns about windiaged it
to
sabl:apdrpcLoend
over;
ehar crafty and
nearing
Fastness,lurchtiller-headsecurewhen by the sudden
ntoSawturivdeauyo,e,
effort made to save him, but to brought round, he'
shortly
no purpose, for j.ci
went down. A son of the unfortunate man, a the
more than 13 years of age, was on board, and being e
round and eTe'J
only person that could take charge of the cutter, it Wire
placed in much danger in consequence of his excited state
and youth. The crew of a smack perceiving their conditi?o,
0,
bore down upon them, and safely brought the cutter 1,.
The body of the unfortunate owner was washed on the beach
in the course of the day.—At about the same time as the
above lamentable occurrence took place another more on..
tressing accident occurred in the Swine., a few miles dista.n_..,t"
A boat belonging to the Good Agreement, of Colcheelowt.,
was being towed by a foreign vessel to take out a pill,.
when it upset, and the two men that were in it, with the
boat, were lost.
THE FISTULA INFIRMARY.—The third festival of the
do
auxiliary society of the above institution was held yeet.erds
at the Highbury Barn Tavern, Mr. H. F. Richardson 'll e..
chair, in tile absence of Alderman Copeland, who was
if iri,..
vented from attending by the illness of one of his fa! n'es
About 200 persons sat down to a good and substantial "te
at four o'clock. The usual loyal toasts being giiren'brief
Chairman, in proposing the toast of the evening, gave!, vroa
sketch of the objeas and operations of the society. "rdiag
founded by Mr. Salmon in 1836, for the purpose of affo,_.ula
pecuniary assistance to the Infirmary fur the cure of
_PII:;10,
and diseases of the lower intestines among the poorer.; talc-
and since that time had been supported with tolerable au
ceas, the expenses being generally balanced by the s
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tions: , Mr. W. H. Martin returned thanks for hie °giant
which was proposed as that of one who had been a 11.t3 in
and the chairman of the last festival. A number of Wl' and
connexion kith the founder, patrons, friends, officers,o_ded
visitors of the society having been proposed and reetaujer.
to in speeches of feeling and ability by Mr. Salmonteltf eight
dan, the Rev. G. Taylor, &c., the company separated ell, 'af
o'clock. The subscriptions amounted to 17/. 13s-re:ilufr'ool
which 5/. was from Alderman Copeland. It aPPea,a whole.
the report that 543 patients were admitted in 184P,..;sidered
259 were discharged, 146 materially relieved,_43 '_,datice,
as incurable, 40 discharged for irregularity et alt it
and 92 were still on the books, the total number
since the foundation in 1836 being 8,236.

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