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their different arguments, declared that he was in favour
of appointing an Executive Committee, in order to save
as much as possible the time of the National Assembly.
M. Bac said, that he was of opinion that th,,, tnbly
eould not it4elf exercise the sovereignty; which it de-
cidedly must do, if it appointed the Alinistl-rs direct.
.No, it must, in preterence, delegate that sovereignty to
a certain number of its Members, who assuming to them-
selves the responsibility of their conduct, would relieve
the Assembly of that burden. But he thought that fur
the present no decision ought to be adopted, and in con-
sequence he should support the proposition of M. Dur-
rieu, to postpone the matter altogether until the Assem-
bly was better acquainted with the men who composed
it, the Provisional Government, who deserved the full
confidence of the country, being still entrusted with the
chief power, as they had been since the revolution.
M. Vezin, one of the majority of the Committee, ex-
plained at some length the reasons which had influenced
his colleagues in coming to the decision just stated to
Assembly. He added nothing, however, of importance
to what had been already said.
M. J. Favre thought that all question of persons
ought to disappear, and that of principles only be con-
sidered. He conceived it impossible for the Assembly
to make a good choice of Ministers. It was now only
four days in existence, and yet it could presume to de-
cide, by ballot, what men were best calculated to fill the
responsible position of Ministers ! But even supposing
that the nine Ministers were named, was everything then
done? The Hon. Member spoke for some time longer,
recommending in the strongest manner the appointment
of an Executive Committee, with power to appoint the

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Ministers.
The Abbi Lacordaire ascended the tribune, and
excited great interest, partly from his great reputation
as a preacher, and partly from his white Dominican
dress. After alluding to the two propositions which had
been made, the one for the appointment of a Commis-
sion de Governement, and the other for the direct
appointment, by the Assembly, of the members, he
stated that there was evidently, in the present
of persons as well as of prin-
ciples.art, he was inclined to support
case, a
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the proposition made yesterday by M. Domes,
and that he was even ready to go further, for he was
ready to sign that gentleman',
proposition, and to accept
freely the five names which he had introduced into it.
He did not, for his own part, pretend to a Republican
de veille. He at once admitted that he had been a
Monarchist, and that he was only a Republican des
lendemain. He did, however, on that account imagine
that the old Republicans de la Veille should be excluded
from power, because they were a small party. On the
contrary, he thought that the parties who fought the
battle of the Republic and conquered ought not to be
excluded from a share in the Government which their
victory had established. He would, therefore, support
the appointment of a Commission de Gouvernement, such
as had been proposed by M. Domes. [The Reverend
Gentleman was listened to with great attention, and
loudly cheered in several passages.]
M. Odillon Barrot said that all persons in that as-
sembly felt profoundly the necessity of acting for the
good of the country and for the happy establishment
of the Republic. All, therefore, ought to look with
the utmost interest in the grave subject now before
the House. He, for his part,. felt more at ease in
discussing the question, from its being one of con-
stitutional principles and not of persons. It would be
a mere fallaey to name an executive committee, as
whenever the ministry was attacked the attack would
pass at once from them and rest on the committee. And
it was vain to suppose that attacks were not to be made
on whatever ministry might exist, as for thirty years
that he had been a public man, he never knew a case in
which a ministry pleased all parties. It was considered
a point in favour of the appointment of the ministry and
an executive committee, that thereby the Assembly
would be relieved from the disagreeable task of dis-
missing them; but the Assembly would still dismiss them
indirectly, because in certain cases it would withdraw its
confidence from them. Would the Executive Com-
mittee be independent? He thought not; it would be
always in the midst of assemblage, subject to interroga-
tion. Party conflicts would erise since the gentlemen
composing the Committee could scarcely be expected
not to defend themselves when attacked. The Hon.
Deputy then referred to an observation which he
had, he said, beard some gentlemen allude to—that
the Provisional Government ought to be re-elected as
a recompense for the sacrifices and devotedness which
they had given proof of during the late momentous
events. For his part, he considered the expression a
most unhappy one. What a recompense to hon. citizens
for having faithfully served their country A recom-
pense for having carried the principles which they
gloried in—those of the republic I For his part he did
not do these gentlemen the injustice to think such
language could sound pleasingly to their ears; he be-
lieved them superior to such considerations. In conclu-
sion, he should say that the National Assembly ought is
nominate the ministers direct.—(Cheers.)
M. de Lamartine would not have ascended the tribune
were it not that he thought the views of M. 0. Barrol
erroneous. There were two distinct parts in the ques-
tion, one relating to the mechanism of a constitutional
Government, and the other relating to principles.
These, when considered, would mutually throw light on
each other. How could a Minister, charged with
an important department, come forward when some
grave conjunction took place, and ask the ad-
vice of the Assembly ? And yet that should be done
if the Minister took his mandate from the Assembly
direct. Would not there be danger for the
home affairs, for the foreign policy, for the diplo-
matic relations of the country? What was above all
necessary, was to insure the future from all dangers.
Could that be done by shackling the proceedings of the
persons appointed Ministers? From his own experience
he was obliged to reply in the negative. The Hon.
Member dwelt for some brief space on this point, which,
he said, had been most ably treated by M. J. Favre, and
then referring to the position of himself and his col-
leagues, declared that they had the utmost confidence in
each other, and would be most unwilling to be separated.
He concluded by declaring that he was decidedly in
favour of the appointmeut of a committee to super-
intend the conduct of the Ministers who might be ap-
pointed.—(Loud cheers.)
After some remarks from M. Arnot and M. F. Las-
teyrie, no other Member expressed a desire to address
the Assembly.
The President said, that in addition to the two pro-
positions just
.debated, a third had been handed in, to
have the Provisional Government continued in their re-
spective places. If no Member wished to speak on that
point, he should put ,the question that the debate be
closed.

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Agreed to.
The President then declared that he should first put
to the vote the question recommended by the committee,
nistry consistng of nine members, with portfolio, and
one am
withel
ishould appoint direct, a mi-
tihtattot he
tAass spe
president.
M. M. Barbes here rushed to the tribune amidst cries of
i
" the discussion s closed." It was some time before he
namely,
could obtain a hearing, but at last he said that the ge-
neral discussion certainly was closed, but surely any
member had a right to speak on the various propositions
separately.—(Great tumult at his continuing to occupy
the tribune, and cries of " Spoke! spoke!") He held
his post however. At last, during a moment's lull, he
contrived to make himself heard. He was, he said, in
favour of the appointment of the Ministry of the Assem-
bly direct, but without. a president; for which he saw no
necessity.—(Continued noise.)
After some time, during which great agitation pre-
vailed, the Assembly proceeded to vote by a show of
hands. A first trial being doubtful, the President or-
dered a second. That, also, being without result,
.the
vote by division was proceeded to, the appel nominal
having been first gone through.
The result of the division was as follows :--;
Number of voters
For the Ministry to be appointed by an Exe-
cutive Committee ......
••• ••
For the Ministry to be appointed by the
Chamber direct .. ....

Majority

411

385

This result was received by loud cries of " Vive
la Republique !"

BOURSE—PARIS, TUXIDAY, MAY 9.
TnnEE O'CLOCK.—The Bourse was very much agi-
tated to-day, in consequence of the debate going on in
the Chamber of Deputies. Towards the close a rumour
was circulated that the Commission de Gouvernement was
carried, and the effect was an immediate rise of two per
cent. on the Rentes. The Railway Shares participated
in the rise.
BUSINESS DONE IN FOREIGN RAILWAYS AT THE

LONI3O&SiOCK EXCHANGE, MAY 9.
and
Boulogne and Amiens, _Crs—Luxembourg,
Rouen, I—Paris
li—Sambre and Meuse, 4%.

STATE OF IRELAND.
The soiree at Waterford on Sunday, held in the Town-
hall, was attended by 700 persons, who were addressed
by Messrs. Meagher and Duffy.
Perfect harmony prevailed, and the utmost enthusiasm
was manifested.
Not the slightest infraction of the peace occurred
within or without the hall.
The Wolfe Tone Club house was illuminated.
Her Majesty's steamers Medusa and Merlin took their
departure before the commencement of the soirée.

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LYCEUM THRATRE.—Madarne Vestris makes her
reappearance this evening in Planche's splendid new
burlesque of Theseus and Ariadne, which has since its
production drawn crowded and delighted audiences.
This is not to be wondered at, when we take into con-
sideration the admirable acting of Madame Vestris, Miss
Fitzwilliam, Miss J. Coleman, Miss Marshall, Mr. 11.
Hall, and Mr. C. Mathews—the merit of the burlesque
as a literary effort, or the beauty of the scenery by that
clever disciple of Claude, Mr. N. Beverley.
SCHOOL FOR THE INDIGENT BLIND, ST. GEORGE'S-
FIELDS.—Yesterday a meeting of the subscribers and
friends of this institution was held at London Tavern,
Bishopsgate-street, for the purpose of electing twelve
pupils, eight males and four females. Samuel H. Bosan-
quet, Esq.,
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society, upwards of 350 persons, exclusive of those who
presided. Since the establishment of the
had been placed on the permanent fund, had been re-
turned to their families, able to earn from 6s. to 28s. per
week. The number of pupils had increased from 15
males,articles
made admittedin ionnethyeeyaerarsollBdoOf
0, r to
nea7rly 1
sma,l2e2sola. and
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females, and a manufactory had been established, where
annual receipts of the society were upwards of 9,0001,
and the expenditure 8,0001. The children having been
elected,
a vote of thanks to 0 i Chairman closed the
proseedings,