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peting lines. There would to to fililleulty, in his clainicn, in con:
r.tsetiii.; the Cale,lo,,isn Longhelm branch with the Canotie coal-
'kids. The difference iroat Edinburgh to Carlisle between the
Hawiek line mid the Caledonian was three miles in favlur of
the .tirreer, !Jilt the gradients abtl curves of the Caledonian

were Letter. Under all circumstance;, he fait v that, if
both lines were constructed it would produce a ruinous
competition, which woall end in a coalition. Witness also agreed
with Mr. (;ulster as to the difficulty of junction at the Carlisle
Central station. To Lit the North British in in the way they pro-
posed would destroy all the arrangements the ot,.er companies had
made with reference to this station.
Cross-examined--The station at Carlisle was rot yet formed, and
by WV ring the levels of the lines proposed to meet in the stations,
the junction might be effected. He believed the various lines
met on the same level at Crown-street- He could not speak
as to the amount of traffic between Carlisle and Edinburgh, and
therefore he could not say what amount the llawick line would take
from the Caledonian. He did not see any reason at present for a
direct line from Laaghohn and.Carli,le, in order to save 2% miles.
He lied no objection if the traffic was developed, and of such a
character as to justify a shorter line, that this 2% miles should be
saved. He thought that a little opposition was necessary,
but it ought to be directed against lines that were already
established, and upon proper data, which they had net
here. With respect to the cuttings and the works, he
took his information from Mr. Collister, but he had a knowledge
of the prices himself. Mr. Miller might have taken cross sections as
well as Mr. Collister, as it was not necessary to give them in the
deposited plans. The plans and sections of Mr. Miller, as deposited,
were such as he would have deposited himself.
Mr. WOOD, civil engineer, said he wont over the Hawiek line,
and also over the estimates of Mr. Collister. He considered the
calculations he had made fair and reasonable.
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Cross-examined—He constructed the Carlisle and Newcastle Rail-
way. He was a director of that line at the time. He was also en-
gaged in the making of the Brandling Junction. He was a coal en-
gineer as well as a railway ore.
Mr. Errington, civil engineer, gave evidence that he generally
concurred with the estimates of Mr. Co/lister. From his experience
of the works on the Lancaster and Carlisle, as well as on the Caledo-
nian, he considered that, according to the sections submitted, the
works could never be constructed at the money. He had sur-
veyed the seuth of Scotland, under the Government Commissioners,
and then it was considered that the traffic would not yield more than
a fair return on 21.4 millions. Now, tor the lines constructing and
proposed, there would be required about ten millions, requiring an
annual revenue Cf 800,0004 In that estimate, he set down the work-
ing expenses at 7001. per mile, which was the minimum rate.
Cross-exit/dna—The Caledonianscheme was not intended to grasp
Edinburgh and Glasgow, but because it was considered the traffic of
these cities, was necessary to make the scheme pay. He believed
that cattle were now carried to a much greater extent than originally
expected. He had had some connexion with the Perth and Inverness
line, which went through a very difficult country. The proposal of
that line was only admissable as a continuation of the great north
mail road. He would individually never have proposed the line, nor
should he Ill:e to have been a shareholder. The estimate of the
Caledoniae originally was, he believed, 1,900,0001., bat he could not
exactly say. The works, he believed, would cost 18,0001. or 19,0001.
a mile. He could not, however, speak exactly as to the amount at
that moment.

Mr. Tight, the architect of the station at Carlisle, examined—The
room at the station was very circumscribed, even for the four com-
panies that were arranged to occupy it, and he did not think a fifth
could be accommodated without great difficulty. The area of the
land on which the station was to be built was about 600 feet long by
400 feet broad. The station would be 2.50 feet by 200.
Cross.examlued— The area ;of the station was four acres and a
quarter, but that did not include the gas •works which the Company
had bought, nor the land they had at Crown-street. The whole extent
of the ground up to the House of Recovery was 1,000 feet, but the
House of Recovery intruded in the space. He win ; not say whether
that pi operty was scheduled. lie knew the Derby waif ,u, and that
a number of lines met i ;Jere. the passengers met and departed on
the same sick.

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were purchaed for the pur-
uid 11,1 accommodate the 1-• a-
s.. cropoz.,c(l, except by lengthening the platform.
dicitor to :he Lancaster and Carlisle Company, de-
rion ground at Uarlisle was In that Company's ex-
at=ive pa,,,sesslon ; and that in regard to the companies they had
already taTanged with, and the convenience necessary to the public,
they eeird not consent to another party coming In.

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Cross-examined—They had powers in their pct to take land along
their line for stations to the extent of fifty acres, that was with the
consent of the proprietors. The land for the .taboo they had ar-
ranged for. The oat-vanity was four or five acre.?, but they could not
reach it without crossing Crown-street. They had not Parliamentary
powers to cross that street, btit they had a Bill bcthre Parliament to
meet that difficulty.

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