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THE ,S!ITN, LONDON, SATURDAY MORNING, JUNE 20, 1846,

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But now will the Hen. Gentleman allow me to ask him another duct in 1828. He said he had left in 1828 on account of his
question? As he thought he had no right to confirm the I views on the Roman Catholic question, but that the time had
report of the " Mirror of Parliament'• by a reference to the tot a-rived when he could explain the circumstances that
" Times," with regard to my speech, did he take the same I led to it. But he might state that his opinions on
course with regard to it as Sir Edward Knatchbull?—( Hear, I the question of the Catholic claims remained unchanged,
hear.) Ob:e, ye, he did not trust to the " Mirror of Parlia- ! but he thought that there would be danger to the country, and
msto" to prefer hi 3 accusation against me. But my Hon. I the stability of its institutions in further resisting the measure.
Foiend Sir E. Knatchbull said that he had had the discretion ! His opinions were unchanged, but he had doubts of resisting
to refer to the " Times." for the purpo•e of seeing whether ! the measure for fear that greater evils might arise.—( Hear,
that eminent public newspaper confirmed the report of the hear.) His opinions were the same as they had ever been, even
" Mirror of Parliament." Well, now, did the Flonourab:e !at the time when he asked Parliament to consent to the pass-
Gentleman take the same course with regard to the Mg of the measure of Catholic Emancipation. The Hon.
" Times" as had been done be Sir Edward Knatchbull ? j alemsier then read at considerable length a letter written by
With regar.f
.o Sir Dewar Enatebull, why d d the Noble the Right Hon. Baronet to his Grace the Duke of Wellington,
Lord not take the ,same e urse with res ect to me, and see in which he urged upon his Grace thenecessityoiaspeedy settle-
w healer the etrious reports of the speech agreed with ea, ti i ment of the long agitated question of Catholic Emancipation.
th r ? ~ere is th sp ech of Sir Edward Knatchbull, and ,rot but that he (Sir R. Peel) considered that it would affect his
one word of accu'ation is erought aga nst me in it.—(Ct.eer . ) character as a public man if after his expression of opinion on
This i s the report of Sir Edward Knatchbu l's speech in the the subject on a former occasion, he should undertake the con-
" Tones." •• With reference o the accounts he alluded to, he I ducting of the Bit! in the House of Commons. The Right
asked the Right Hon. Gentleman, if the stile of Ireland and Hon. Baronet had written a letter to the Earl of Liverpool,
the country es. re the reasons for his policy, if he ought not, in I which he also read to the House, in which he stated that if the
ja-tice to the country, to have conceded the t atho iv claims in Noble Earl considered it would promote the success of the Bill,
the time of Mr. Canning ? He wished to ask the question he would resign and support it, regardless of any effect which
which he put the ot er day. If his accounts of the state of I such a course n:ight have upon his character as a public man.
Ireland, ash existed at tee press .t day, were true, why id h_ The Nuble Lord ( George Bentinek) proceeded to ask, were
not support those claims when t hey received the suport f Mr. the memories of Hon. Gentlemen so fickle that they had for-
Can ing ?—( Hear, hear.) If the Honourable Gen Leman gotten that in the autumn of le2e the Right Hon. Baronet
ha net the n discovered the necessity for concession, why made a triumphant progress through the country as the
del he oppose Mr. Canning on other group s, which he apostle of Protestant ascendency? Had Hon. Gentlemen forgot,
had since abandoned ? Canning was the powerful, the eerie had the country forgot, would they ever forget, that he acted as
sistent advocate ,of the Catholics, and it the Right Hen. he had previously acted in 1827 towards Viscount Canning,
Gentleman in 1829 had reason fur adopting the line of policy when he had the assurance to• go down to Manchester, and
of that distinguished statesman, why did he not as readily do dined at a large public dinner as the champion of Protestant
so in 1827, when Mr. Canning supported him ?" Now, I ascendancy ?—( Cheers.) When the Right Honourable Baronet
have referred to osaer reports. I did not find it in the " Morn- talks of the probity of his conduct, how could lion. Members
lag Herald," but in the "Morning Journal," Sir Edward of that House answer for the probity of the conduct of a Gen-
Koatehbulis reported to have said, " I say, then, in reference tlernan who steed there convicted of having gone through all
to that period, that if the policy of conceding the claims of the I the manufacturing districts, dining there at great public dinners
Catholics were so strong as the Hon. Gentleman describes, in as the Protestant champion, after he huer in the summer of that
common justice to the country, and in common justice to him- year made up his mind -to carry Catholic emancipation. He
self, that was the moment he should have conceded them, when wanted to know whether a snuff-boa would have been pre_
Mr. Canning, who was the able, the consistent advocate of sewed to him from Liverpool—from .tlr. Hellingshead. he be
those claims, first introduced the measure into Parliament. I lieved—whether he would have received these assemblies.--
do not consider such concession expedient or neces'ary, and would have been feted and honoured with all these dinners
such was my opinion before it was again brought forward in by the Protestants and.Orangemen of the country, if they had
1827." Now, Sir, then if the reports in the " Mirror of Par- anticipated that in the summer of Ins he had made up his
iiament " were in point of fact the compilation of. the previous mind to carry Catholic emancipation? There was then au end
reports of newspapers—it is rather hard to condemn me be- of the Right Flooourahle Bat onet's defence.—(Cries of " Oh,
cause it now appears—(because I declare Ihad not the slightest oh.) Hon. Gentemen might cry " Oh, oh," but did they
conception of that on the 16th of March, 1827, although the rember the pledges they had given to their constituents ; would
i eports of the morning papers, at least the " Morning their constituents cr y " Oh, oh ?"—( Cheers. 1 He would now
Herald," and of the " Times," do not attribute that expression go bark to the speech of Sir Edward Knatchbul I. The
to Sir Edward Knatchbuil)—it is rather hard to impute to Right Hon. Baronet had said Sir Edward Knatchbull could
me, that I remain silent under a charge which, as far as my not have been present when he made his speech, or
recollection serves me, was never uttered.—(Cheers.) He he would not have addressed the House in the tone and
begins the speech, "I am desirous to state as shortly as I can; manner be did. But did the Right Hon. Baronet get up at the
the reason why I oppose further omissions." lam not pre- time to complain of this, or to make any explanation?—(Cheers.)
pored to say that my Right Hon. Friend was But the Right Hon. Gentleman never touched that part of
absent, but •be it as it may, I am sure my the speech in which Sir E. Knatchbull imputed to him that con-
Right honourable Friend is quite incapaole of duct, towards Mr. Canning. He has never answered that
attributing or mutilating any speech. seen now, Sir, I have charge—it never can. be answered. Sir E. Knatchbull said,
gone through the charges brought against me.—(Loud cheers.) that if his opinions had been changed, be ought, in justice to
Ureter the disadvantages which I have labourer, in going into himself, in justice to his friends, in justice to Mr. Canning,
these different reports, the charge against me being the dis- who . was the able and constant advocate of the measure,
crepancy of a newspaper report published seventeen years ago, to have conceded it. If, as he says now, that he considered
it is probable I might have failed.—(Cheers ) I might have in 1825 the quest:nn ought to have been conceded, why did he
believed that-the " Mirror of Parliament" had not a separate not think so in 1827, when the supposed difference with Mr.
band of reporters, and induced gentlemen connected with the Canning Lynn this point obtained for him the most powerful
press, not connected with me in politics, to give them informs.- support, which I confess, said Sir E. Knatchbull, "to have
rion of the speeches delivered in Parliament. This it is which been the case with me; and if we are to be secured by our con-
enables me to dispose of Mr. Barrow, that great reporter, and cessions to Catholics, from their gratitude, why not. concede
the " Mirror of Parliament." This it is which enables me to the measure through the hands of those who have been its con-
dispose of the " Mirror of Parliament," and to scatter to the stant advocates, and who would have looked upon it as a boon
winds the assertion that the " Mirror of Parliament" had a coming from them, but who could riot view it in such a light
band of reporters separate from thenewspapers. This it is which coming from the hands that it did, with the
eisablts me to shatter to pieces the misrepresentations of the confession that it was extorted from them?"—(Hear, hear.)
" Times," and to prove that its report was different from the l'hen, when he said that they should look to the report in
other morning newspapers. 1 have proved that this report " Hansard," he knew that it was not all couched in the same
was rattle by two persons, who each reported the same speech language with that in the " Mirror of Parliament," but the
ii a different manner; that this speech, as it appears in the sense of it was the same. It was as follows:—" The Right
" Mirror of Parliament," was made up from the " Morning Hon. Gentleman, however, said that even then (that was in
Cnroniele," the 6' Morning Herald," and the "'rimes." I 1825) he was satisfied something must be done to conciliate
have proved, in the course of my observations, that so tar from Ireland. If, then, he was satisfied as to the necessity of con-
there being a separate band of reporters for the " Mirror ciliation, and if he was thus abandoned by his supporters, why
of Parliament," that it took its reports from the did he not consent, and lend his assistance to Mr. Canning in
" Times," and adopted and inserted them as its own, the accomplishment of that object?"--(Hear, hear.) But
And thus I have accounted for the equivocal expressions which was that the only comment that was made upon' the conduct of
appeared in the " Mirror of Parliament." When the Hen. the Right Hon. Baronet? There was at that time, in that
Gentleman in the .course of his speech attempts by the repro- House, a warm supporter of Protestant ascendancy, Mr.
sentation of his affection for the memory of Mr. Canning, we Michael Thomas Sadler—(Hear)—and what was the language
ill feel bound to respect the motives by which every man in that Mr. itaadli•r used on this occasion ? Why, he said, " Long-
his position may be actuated. No one can fail to participate winded orations, passages which led to nothing—( Hear)—
in feelings such as those which he has appealed to. The Hon. could never set this matter in an honest light before the
Gentleman has described Mr. Canning as an eagle. He has country.—( Cheers.) They can comprehend it as little as
stated that he was as the rider of Bucephalus. Who one the question of emancipation, in which they are declared to be
would suppose that Mr. Canning had devoted the whole of so ignorant met besotted. They were, however, beguiled by
his intellectual lacuities to the purposes of private study alone. Peel's explanation. So was I. I was one of them. 1 thought
lam quite ready to grant ail the credit to welch Mr. Canning the conduct of the Noble and Right Hod. individual concerned
is entitled, and lam wow a,so ready to submit to the assertion sacrificed a principle to consistency. What it was it is
That these fee.ings are entitled to consideration and regard. I not worth while to inquire, since it was anything rather than
ern ready to grant that those feelings of affection and respect that. It is now too late to reeify the error; all that remains
which we en ertain tor any partioutar object are likely to be is to regret most deeply that those who have so secretly, sud-
enchanced ; according as the tune grows remote those feelings dentv, and unceremoniously deserted us should have so con.
grow stronger and ii.ore permanent in their character. But, ducted themselves with regard to that highly-gifted individual,
Sir, I would ask, why, if the Hon. GentLinan does entertain, unriatipily now no more, as one whn ought not to serve his
those feeling—why, a such are ,he sentiments of the Hon. king and country as the head of the Government, because he
Gentleman, has he retained them for twenty years after the was f vourabte to a measure and now so indecently forced upon
death of Mr. Cont% for the purpose 01 wounding a political tee couistry." Mr. Sadler said, "I do heartily repent of my
opponent ?—(lmmense cheering.) 1 ask why, in describing share in it, and the too successful attempts to hunt
these feelings—whicn in thetnsesves are entitlest to esteem and down so noble an individual—a man whom England,
respect-1 say, why has he retained them for inflicting a and the world would not fail to recognise as its orna-
blow on me, and for exciting by their expression general odium ment ; whose eloquence was, in these days at least, unrivalled;
against me, and rallying round himself the great influence ot the energies of whose capacious mind, stored by knowledge and
public sympathy ?—( Immense cheering.) But, Sir, lam jus- enervated by genius, were devoted to the service of his country;
titled in saying that instead of public sympathy he has roused, the qualities of whose generous heart led those wild spoke of
with hardly an exception, an unmitigated indignation, and them to feel the warmth of his friendship, which, I believe,
an expression of the public sense of the means by which the eetild only be equalled by its stability. Had I had the honour
delu • ion was attempted, and an aboorrance at the perversion of of having a seat in the House at that time, I should have con-
that which is so sacred ui itself for such a purpose. I will scientiously opposed him or that occasion, but with feelings
discharge my character from the suspicion which the Hon. very different from those who then opposed him. Those gen-
Gentleman would attach to me. But when the Hon. Gen- tlernen who said it was impossible to act with such ' a
tlerr.an goes to a house on a certain day niweteen years ago, I Minister, and for reasons which vitiate their present
will not descend to follow him.—( Hear, hear, and cheers.) doings, implying therefrom that as the transaction with
When the Hon. Gentleman speaks of certain dinners, and par- such a person the annals of our country could not
ticularises where they were held, I hope the House will not furnish so disgraceful a page. But, passit.g to his memory, my
blame me for not following him.--t Cheers.) I will not re- humble tribute is paid when it can can be no longer heard or
taeatert on the Hon. Gentleman; I will simply content myself regarded—when it is drowned by the voice of interested adu-
oi h having defended my character by reading the documents Wipe, poured only into the ears of the living. But his
upon which these charges have been tounded.—( Hear.. aaeaa) character .is rescsiedeoand rises in triumph over sprvivins7-
I now entreat the House that as I have no opportunity to. an, , what shall I call them? - Lit tfiefr owto consciences `apply the
ewer fre.h ceirges, that it will suspenc its judgment, should name."--( Loud cheers.) That was . the comment of Mr.
such charges be brought forward, till I shah have an oppo.tn- Saftler—,(Hear)—upon- this same speech of the Right 'Hon.
nits, by your kind indulgence, of again making my defence. Baronet; and it might be remembered MO by those who heard •
The Right Hon. Gentleman resumed his seat amidst great Mr. Sadler wind up another soul-stirring speech to 'the same
cheering. effect. The speech in the " Mirror of Parliament" was no
Lord GEORGE BENTINCK rose, but for some minutes doubt the speech of the Hon. Baronet, collected from' all the •
couldin consequence of the cheering with which reports supplied to the newspapers by all the reporters
the
pHrooene.erld' baronet was greeted on the canclus,on of his in that 't gallery (said the Noble Lord, pointing' to the
Ri not
speech. Silence having been at last restored, the Noble Lord reporters' gallery). Then it was not attempted to be
said—fir,the charge that was origiaally matte against the denied that the speech in " Hansard" was also correct. But
Right •
Hon. Baronet was made by the humble individual who in 1828 the Hon. Baronet did what he had done in 1825, with
now addresses you, and not by my Hon. Friend who sits beside this addition; namely, that he was prepared to pass the measure
It was my Hon. Friend wno rose to defend me against through Parliament. There could be no doubt now, that the
mthee attack of tne Right lion. Baronet. I think, therefore, that communication referred to was a verbal one, and that his resig-
the House will agree with me that it becomes me, rather than nation was tendered in a written statement. This case must
my Hon. Friend, to get up, and to maar.aiti the charge which stand on its Own intrinsic merits. The Right Hon. Baronet
was advanced in the first instance.—(lronical cheering, cries of had said that a reporter of the " Times" was a deaf repbrter,
"Ohloh I" and winch confusion.) Sir, I was nut in this but it should he known th,t it was the practice of reporters
House in the year 1827—1 was not a Member of this House in only to take their notes fur a quarter of an hour at a time,
that year, but I was a Member of this House in 1828. I was a This paragraph occurred far down in this four hours' speech,
Member of this House in 1829, and I heard the speech ef the whereas the Right Hon. Baronet was alluding to the mistakes
Right lion. Baronet. I heard the question asked him by the that occurred in the early part of the report. He had compared
andsard
layn d3Bh e found
utnh de
Earl of Uxbridge. I heard his answer to that question. I hoard the report in. thee 664,
the speech—the crushing speech—of Sir Edward Knatchbull, that ther%wiser"inanondeinre" olirta,n
sufficiently proved toP him that the report
wordsTm es
and I heard the Right Hon. Baronet's answer to that speech. other.- T
"Hansard" against him, he had looked him
lam prepared to show by the internal evidence in those re- ad been. tampered with. When the Right Hon. Baroet
Mr. steldi, in the face, to see what effect the witness of that
ports that the streement I made was the correct truth.— was quoting
( Hear, hear.) Sir, the Right Hon. Baronet has said that i
but when he to whatpassed
in 1827, came Barrow was not the reporter who gave this speech. Why, I beik wouldY have upon him. He reed steadily enough whilst
]resume that there is no Hon. Member in this House who quoting what passed
to nut know that in a speech of four hours not one, bat in 1829, he would not say the book almost fell from his hands,
four, or six, or eight, or twelve different reporters may be en- but he threw it from him as if afraid any longer to retain it in
gaged. When, therefore, my Hon. Friend spoke of or. Bar- his grasp.—(Cheers.)
row as the gentleman oho furnished that r port, he spoke of Sir W. JAM ES rose to order. The Nettle Lord, he con-
him only as at the head of that establishment, and not as the calved, might state facts, but he had no right to speak of
reporter—(Cries of "Oh, oh")—not as the man who himself felines.
reported that speech, but as the principal person connected The SPEAKER decided that his Lordship might proceed.
with that journal • But I appeal to those' reports, and I take' • The Right Hon. Baronet had acknowledged that he had al-
Hansard" as it is. ,I take the
." Mirror of Parliament" as I terel that report in " Hansard," for there was a note to that
find it, and I will endeavour to show by the internal evidence effect at the b-sttom of the page. That speech was severely
of the reports in these papers, that I have not imputed to the dealt with by Sir Edward Knatchbull, and was much ques-
Right Hon. Baronet that which may not be fairly inferred from tioned by a Noble Lord. He held with no such double-deal-
the speeches themselves. When I made the charge against ing as this by a Minister high in the confidence of his Sove-
the Right Hon. Baro'.et I had referred to the •• tlirror of reign. The Right Hon. Gentleman was a great reformer of
Parliament," and nothing else. I was not aware that " Han- the criminal law, and he pleaded the Statute of Limitations
card" had been corrected by the Riget Hon. Baronet. Sir, on the charges which had been brought against him. The
what does the Right Hon. Baronet say in the onset of his Right Honourable Baronet should bear in mind that the
speech, in his very first paragraph. lie says, "Se far as I law of limitations only applied to the law of debtors, and not
am personally concerned, I beg to say, that my own course on to criminal offences. The Right Hon. Baronet had corn-
this question is the same as tiat which I suggested in 1825." milted two offences—they were great in magnitude, and he
Another paragraph stated, that in 1829—(and we all know what -hould bear in mind that the country would not forgive two
was the course pursued by the Right Hon. Baronet)—•hat in great crimes. He ( Lord G. Bentinck) had been charged
1829 his course was the same as in 1825. Eat, Sir, before I \viols bringing up an old offence with regard to the name of
go on. I shall confirm this by a reference to •• Hansard ;"- and Air. Canning.- • Had he done so without provocation—had
" Hansard" says As far as my own course on this ques- he ma 'e one charge that was not borne out in fact? He was
'ion is coneerned, it is the same as that suggested to me in 1825." there not to ke false charges; but while he had the honour
The evidence of the Bight Hot • Baronet .n his ewn corrected of a seat in that House, he would denounce political profligacy.
repo• t, as well as in the report of the " Mirror of Parlia- The Right Honourable Baronet hail charged him with using
meld," %v.+ s, that the courses ihe pursued in 1829 .and in 1825 language- unbecoming a Member of that House. When
were the same The Right Hun. Baronet has told you the Honourable Speaker was first proposed to sit in
that they were not lintel).- dent reporters on that paper, but that Ch..ir, he (Lord G. Bentinek) voted against
that, according to his belief, all the reporters got together ant him, for the Right Honourable Gentleman was then
compared their reports, and that the result of their labours untried. He was, however, elected by a small majority, and
was put in the " Mirror of Parliametit,'. as it was always the the next time the Right Hon. Gentleman was proposed, he
fullest report. What better evidence could I have had to (Lord G. Bentinek) voted for him, because his decisions had
prove the correctness of the n mirror of Parliament" than always been mostimpartial. With such a Right Hon. Gentle-
that of the Right Hen. Baronet? The Right How Baronet man in that chair. he (the Noble Lord) believed that language
goes on to say—" After the House of Commons came to the unbecoming a MemSer of that House could not b• used
decision which I have stated in 182 e, I was prepared to take without calling for his interference. —( Hear, hear.) He had
the course which I was prepared to take in 1825. With this used no languag. but what was quite legitimate arid just.—
addition I intimated to the Nobte uke at the head of his Ma- ( Hear, hear.) He. used language denonacing
.the political
jetty's Government that I was not only prepared, but anxious profligacy or those wno tool sole their constituencies.
to retire from office, seeing the current of public opinion in Mr. ESCOTT—Who eold th ? who?
favour of the Catholic' 'claims • and in whatever situation I Lord GEORGE BEN. TINmCe
K—You ask me who, and I
might find myself, I could no longer be justified in opposing say you, sir. I have the honour of being one of your con-
myself to its voice." After this comes what the Right Hon. stituents, and I have the means of learning some of the secrets
baronet did not read. The Right Hon Baronet did of the city of Winchester He had made such a case as the
not pursue the sentence. He said, to this duty, and to night Hon. Baronet failed to answer so es to disprove it, and
this great object, he was prepared to make a sacrifice he was neW wilting, *awl he was now ready, to leave it to the
of his c nsisteney and his friendship for whatever would pro- judgment of an impartial English public.—( Cheers.)
duce a settlement of the question that was undertaken; and he, Sir.JOH H.'NMER said that the Noble Lord was very
fir one, was prepared its whatever position he might be, to sup- partial to making a comparison between his own ape. dies and
port any measure for the purpose of upholding the Protestant those of Mr. Fox; but he (Sir John Hanmer) differrel in
'a:stablishneent.
Here ;-s
his own admission—that he had seen opinion with the Nobte Lord as to the force and vigour or the
the time was come when, in his o anion, some concession ought speeches of both. He was 'prepared to prove that the Noble
to the Roman Catholics, while, in 1825, he was Lord bad spoken to the electors of Lynn as a supporter of the
office to leave others to carry out the Right Hon. Baronet. •He was not one to rake up old
prepared • anon. But, in 1829, he said that he was pre speeches, as 'he hut occasionally dipped into the newspapers,
Catholic era""P. Right Hon. Baronet has refered to and then only for leading Ministers, and
The the speeches of a tew
to be glade
himself to carry .
dteo retire from
leading opponents. But he had been induced to depart a
a question wbridge. On the 6th of March he said little out of his usual course to inquire what the Noble Lord
hich had been ask, d, and an answer which he had their' leadh • • .
Earl asked why he did not take, in 1827, the quotesd in his speeches, seeing that he had beeroso ready to
that the Noble •
in 1820 ; and why, in 1827, he did not the speeches of other parties. He would • read to
course which he Leek
given to the Earl of Us
extract of a speech the. • o
oble Lord given in the Norfolk
an to assist Mr. Chronicle" Jui
Canning in carrying on the Government ofN
yThe speech as
spoken at the Lynn
the circumstanees election ; and the Noble Lord distinctly saidethat in. 1835 he
Right Hon Baronet replied—" Between
• ed in 1828 was elected to support the Conservative Ministry of the day.
an carrying out the Catholic question. To this question the
that- occurred in 1827 and those which occu•r
at tne Now, let the House bear in mind that at. that time the Right
there is this material difference.
time Mr. Canning made this proposal to me, the
In 1827,
Hon. Bart• was at variance with Lord Stanley, whom the
Bentinek) had represented as his
subject had been diseusset in the I leader. He f eind also that the Noble Lord the
new Parliament, and I had been in a ma'ority in 1827 and in political
for Lynn supported the Right Hon. Baronet on the
a minority in 1824. And. in lBaB therefore 3 I took the course Member
which I took in 1825," He
House of Commons of the Noble. Lord (Lord George
had only to
(Lord G. Bentin- k) the leading row ions of the Consfrvative party, as led on
read to a• retrain
when he proposed to retire,. he said the time motion for electing I\lanners Sutton as Speaker of the House,
the course the Right Hon. Baron,t took in and all
1823. In 1828,ht agaiiest the Right
favour the claims of the Roman Catholics, and the Houseof
had now (mine when a newnot in..ocent of the charges Ise had broug
madeT he
t Right
Commons was disposed to _ d about 1
Baronet. A great deal had been oat oat a genera
I.Hy the Reght Hon. Baronet. The Noble Lord was, therefore,
Hon.
shouldneeso bn e'• nts of the people ef England
sLaoidratsiLiptpaorsi eadttfehmepcto
what the real sentiments
seen were
Baronet and those wl.o now op-
to that attempt he would lend himself.—( -1I to the Ri tht Hon.
18'25 he took a similar course ; and in r ear, hear.) In in relit ion
ietttleHtohne,gßuesrsotinoent then 'electron eleCtion , that event might stein arrive, and then it wou:d be
1828 he took the same.. • posed him. I what. to make of the
curse as in 1825- Itt 1828 he also took the identical course M. ROEBUCK said he was at a .03
lin
which he did in 1a3517, when he said that the time had come when 1 speech of the Noble Lord who had just sat down. Accort g
something ought to be (Line to settle the question. There ap- Ito the statement of the Noble Lord, he stood by I% r.
pea ed, therefore, tee strongest, probability of the correctness Canning till the time when he saw him hunted to
of what he ( Lord G Bentinek) hail stated in reference to the t death—( Hear. heat ) —and he watched the hand that
opposition of the Right Honourable Baronet to the Catholic ! struck the blow which penetrated that noble heart; yet
claims in 1824.—( Hear, hear.) In support of what he • thst man who had directed the blow the Noble Lord had
had stated, he would refer to what took pace afterwards called his Right Hon. Friend..—( Hear, hear.) As
in 1831, when the Right Hon. Gentleman
.the Member for a plain man, he ( Mr. Roebuck) would say, had he possessed
Edinburgh (Mr Macaulay) spoke in favour of the Reform such a friend— had he grown up with Mr. Canning—had he
Bill, and alluded to the conduct of the Right Hon. Baronet. seen the blow struck that laid him in the dust, and knew
The Right Ron. Baronet then went into a statement of 114 con- the hand that dealt the blow he at least

have sailed that man his Right Hon. Friend. How came
it that not till nineteen years after the death of Mr. Can--
Ding did the Noble Lord think proper to make the declara-
tion he had made? Why did he not, make the declaration
before, instead of reserving it to such a late pericd, and then,
in a moment of irritation and party quarrel, to make the
charge of his friend being hunted to death ? Again, when
did the Hon. Gentleman the .Memb,-r for Shrewsbury make
t.:,e same discovery ? Was it in 1802, 1825, 1828, or 1832 ?
He got into Parliament in 1632 --

of a different kind, and campaigns of a very different charac-
ter to those in which he had lately mixed, it appeared he had
generously come forward to declare that there was no proof of
the allegation of his Noble Friend ; but he should wish the
Noble Lord to give him his attention, whilst he shortly
detailed the facts of the case. He would accept for a
moment, for the purposes of argument, that the as-
sumption
which had been made was perfectly true....
(Hear.) He would assume that the report which
had appeared in the " Mirror of Parliament" or the " Times"
newspaper (he did not care whether it be two authorities, or
whether it be one) but that the report which appeared in the
" Times" newspaper or the " Mirror of Parliament" de-
clared that the Right Hon. Gentleman said, in 1829, that he
was prepared to consent to the settlement of the Catholic
question. He would assume, he repeated for the sake of argu-
ment, that the Right Hon. Gentleman said that. Now, he
wanted to know, independently of that report, what proof there
was that the Right Hon. Gentleman said that ? He begged
the House to understand that he as umed that the Right Hon.
Gentleman said that ; but he would not accept the report of the
" Times" newspaper— he would not accept the report of the
" Mirror of Parliament" as a proof of what he said, though
for the sake of argument he assumed that he did say
it, but he wanted to know what proof there was that he said
it ? Assuming that he said it, he ( Mr. Disraeli) produced
very dis inguisbed Members of Parliament to recollect the
real state of facts. Now the report of the " Times " must
be forgotten. The Right Hon. Gentleman (he meant Sir
E. Knatchbull) said on the occasion alluded to, that he was
indisposed, and be was therefore not in the House. But he was
in the House ; because in March, although he was so indis-
posed that he could not speak upon the subject, he found in
the division list the name of Sir Edward Knatchbull.—
(Hear, hear.) Now he begged the House to recollect that
important fact. He was not arguing the case, he was
sure, with any vituperation,—( Hear, hear.) It was
the Right Hon. Gentleman himself who had challenged
him to this investigation. The Right Hon. Gentleman said
the other night that he (Mr. Disraeli) had got up to make this
attack upon him. God knew it was with the greatest reluctance
that he rose to speak in compliance with the request of his
Noble Friend, because he happened at that time to be parti-
cularly indisposed.—(Laughter.) It was a charge of his Noble
Friend's, made certainly in the excitement of the debate, but
it was the honest expression of his convictions. The Right
Hon. Gentleman did:not choose to allow that to pass; he took a
certain time, and came down and made an elaborate defence of
himself—( Hear, hear)—and then because his Noble Friend
asked him (Mr. Disraeli) to speak, because he himself could
not speak again, the Right Honourable Gentleman
came down and said he (Mr. Disraeli) made a
malignant attack upon him. But assuming that he did not
offer it as a proof that the Right Hon. Gentleman did not ad-
mit that in 1825 he said this. Had he (Mr. Disraeli) no
proof ? He would bring before the House a Member of Parlia-
ment who said that be did, and that that Member of Parliament
was in the House at the time was very clear. Now, he was
going to quote an authority, and it was not Mr. Barrow who
had reported this—it was not the collective council at midnight
of the most accomplished reporters of toe London press that
reported this. This was a corrected copy by the Right Hon.
Gentleman himself of his speech, on the sth of March. Now,
he begged the House to observe this paragraph. This was a
speech in which the Right Hen. Gentleman had made a very
important admission—that admission being the one to which
Sir Edward Knatchbull referred. Now he would read this
extract from the corrected report of the Right Hon. Gentle-
man's speech of March 5. The Right Hon. Gentleman said,
in 1828, however the House might choose to view this matter,
and they did not choose to agree to a resolution favourable to
the principle of adjustment, he wished then to observe that
he was then in the saute situation which he was in 1825, and
he determined to retire from office: He intimated his fixed
intention in this respect to the Duke of Wellington, but he
felt it his duty to accompany that intimation with respect to
retirement with another, to the effect that he would not, in
his private capacity, any longer obstruct the settlement of the
Catholic question. That was what the Right Hon. Gentleman
said in 1825.—(N0, no.) Very well; that at least was a
faithful report of what had been said, according to his infor.
mation—and he hoped he would show that his information
was right. Now he would quote from " Hansard"—a report
of what the Right Hon. Gentleman might have said on
March the 6th. His (Mr. Disraeli's) Noble Friend had only
quoted from the' Mirror of Parliament," as he wished to put
the case clearly before the House. This was from " Hansard,"
and from a corrected speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman.
He fairly admitted that he did not mean to represent that
every speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman reported in
" Hansard" was a faithful report, but he was only quoting
from " Hansard," for they all knew how correct were the
reports of such eminent Members as the Right Hon. Gentle.
man in that publication. Now this had never been brought
forward in the course of the debate. This was in answer to
the question to Lord Uxbridge, to which the Right Hon.
Gentleman had referred as being reported in the " Mirror of
Parliament."—( Hear, hear.) Now he (Mr. Disraeli) would
not quote in answer to Lord Uxbridge, that there was a
material difference in his situation in 1827, and his situation in
1828. In 1827 a new House of Commons decided against
concession, but in 1828 it decided in favour of concession.
Mr. Secretary Peel then adopted the course which
he took in 1825, when Lord Liverpool was
elected at the head of the' Government, We had this
passage, that he then took the course which he adopted in
1815, when Lord Liverpool was at the head of the Govern-
ment. In 1828, when the question was put forward, and it
was likely that the Government would be in a minority, he
said " The time is now come when a new Parliament has de-
cided against me, and when the House of Lords are in a state
of division upon the question. The time is arrived when an
attempt to settle the question must be made, and to that attempt
I will lend my aid."—(Cries of " Oh, oh," " Hear, hear," and
" Order, order.") That was not the cheer that was made in
answer to the speech of the Right Honourable Gentleman
when he alluded to this case—(Cries of " Hear, hear")—
but they would set their case temperately and fairly before the
House. They thought it an unanswerable case, and he would
now come to what was a most important feature of the case ;
but his intent was not in doing so,—(lronical cry of " No,
no !") The Right Hon. Gent. said he was ready in 1845 to
' take the course which he took in 1835; and he described
the grounds upon which he took these staps, fur he said that
the time had arrived when an attempt must be made to settle
the Catholic question, and to that attempt he would lend his
aid.—( Hear, hear.) Very well, then, if there was no truth in
these books, or they were not to be accepted as evidence ; if it
were true that the Right Hon. Gent. in 1825 was prepared to
do that which he did.in 1838 ; and if the report in the Mir-
ror of Parliament" was not a true report of what the Right
Hon. Gent. said, that he was prepared to carry that question,
he (Mr. D'lsraeli) had a right to assume that which he as..
sumed only. Was there any truth that the Right Hon. Gent., in
his speech of March 8, did use these expreQsions which were
recorded in the " Times" newspaper? He would not say
that he quoted the report of the " Times" newspaper, but
he would quote Sir Edward Knatchbull himself as to what
the Right Hon. Gentleman had said. He put the case fairly
before the House. He might be wrong—it was very well for
them to say that he had no right to offer facts like these in
support of his arguments. And Gentlemen who said " no,
no," when he (Mr. Disraeli) quoted these facts, ought to get
up and negative these facts by argument.—( Hear, hear.)
He wished the question to be put fairly before the House.
He wished it to be put without any passion, and if any per-
son could answer his arguments and facts, let them answer
them.—(Hear, hear.) But it was utterly impossible that
this question could be settled in the manner in which it had
been discussed by the Right Hon. Gentleman. When the
Right Hon. Gentleman occupied 20 or 30 minutes in this chance
allusion to the" Edinburgh Review"—when the Right Hon.
Gentleman entered into a minute comparison of all the reports
of all newspapers to which he had referred, he (Mr. Disraeli)
naturally asked himself, why did not the Right Hon. Gentle•
man explain to him why Sir Edward Knatchbull had made
the speech that had been reported in the papers—.and why, on
the sth and 6th of March, he himself made those admissions?
—( Hear, hear.) Now, as to this affair of the " Edinburgh
Review" case, he (Mr. Disraeli) never put faith in the fact.
The " Edinburgh Review" insinuated that the Right
Honourable Gentleman had written a letter to the Earl of
Liverpool. And what did the Right Hon. Gentleman say ?
He said, " I will clear my character, for I will bring all the
letters that Lord Liverpool wrote to me." What answer was
that ?—( Hear, hear.) Two days had been wasted on a discus-
sion in these matters, but he would ask the Right lion. Gentle-
men would it not have been better, if, instead of sending to
Drayton, he had sent to Sir Edward Knatchbull to ask bim if
he had made the speech attributed to him, and if he had given
a simple response to that simple inquiry, and i i he had then
welked to the table of that House, and read that letter
from Sir Edward Knatchbull, denouncing that version

Air. DISRAELI—I did not get in then. •
Mr. ROEBUCK—The Hon. Gentleman tried to get in, at
all events.—(Laughter.) He got in, however, in 1835, and
then he set about with fulsome speeches to praise the Right
Hen. Baronet—prepared speeches, got up for the occasion—
and finding that he did not aucceed, he changed about—a
change he (Mr. Roebuck) boldly attributed to disappointed
ambition. He failed of success in his flattery, and, in the bit-
terness of disappointment, he became the uncompromising op-
penent of the Right Hon. Baronet.—( Hear.) They had been
told that his Radical opinions were the produce of his generous
youth, but that his Toryism was the result of his mature man-
hood. But he did not succeed, with all his chopping and
changing, to get into place and power—the great object he had
in view. The Right Hon. Baronet, it could not be denied,
had also changed his opinions, hut the change was the result of
a new conviction, and did not proceed from any expectation of
place and pension—( Hear, hear) -and his country would yet
prudentsioful i
people, justice tnontihis h
ey conduct.wnn ld weighTh in
The Eng
the English
balpaneocele thewpetty
epassions of the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury and the sacri-
ficeslrea
which the Right Hon. Baronet, in his present conduct,
had made to ensure a great public good.—(Cheers.) The
Right Hon. Baronet had yielded to new convictions, while the
charges of the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury proceeded from
motives of place and power, and from a feeling of disappointed
ambition. He was sure the people of England would not
much longer bear with such proceedings of the Noble Lord, the
Member for Lynn, and the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury,
and when a general election came he had no fear for the result.
He at least was not afraid of meeting his constituents for the
support he had given to the Right Hon. Baronet in forwarding
his present measure. He hoped, and sincerely too, that the
abolition of the corn-laws would not be the last act of the
Right Hon. Baronet's political life, hut that he would become
a coadjutor with others in promoting and carrying out measures
and views which should be equally wise, and of equal import-
ance to the vital interests of the country as the one he had
just alluded to.—( Hear, hear.) He felt that he should not
have been doing justice to his feelings and to his country if he
had not taken the earliest opport-nity to rise in his place, and
express his gratitude to the Right Hon. Baronet for what he
had done ; acd at the same to assure him that he'had per-
fectly vindicated his character, in the reply he had made to the
chat g s of the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn.— ( Hear. )
Lord J. RUSSELL bad hoped that his Noble Friend,
the Member for Lynn, would have relieved him from the ne•
cessity of saying anything upon the pres.snt occasion. —( Hear.)
He had trusted that his Noble Friend 'would have taken a
course which would have at once put an end to any discussion
upon this subject. He was not one of those who
was disposed to think that upon general questions, like these
they has lately had under discussion, Hon. Members ought
not to refer to matters which occurred twenty years ago, and
still less to express • heniselves in strong terms upon such sub-
jects. He was not prepared either to say that the great diffe-
rence of opinion which had existed in that House upon a sub-
ject of great and vital interest to the country was not sufficient
to restrain Hon. Members from indulging in strong lan-
guage against the Minister who proposed Hear, hear.)
But the question which the Right Hon. Baronet, the First Lord
of the Treasury had brought before the House to-night was
not a question of general accusation, or of indiscriminate
attack, but it was an accusation against him upon specific
points. The Right Hon. Baronet had been charged, in the
first place, with having stated to Lord Liverpool, in 1825, that
he thought the Roman Catholic question ought to be settled,
and that his opinions had changed upon the subject. In the
next place, whether he stated that to Lord Liverpool or no in
1829, he made a statement to that effect in that House, and
thereby laying himself open to the reproach that while be
thought the question ought to be settled he opposed Mr. Can-
ning in endeavouring to effect the object in 1827. But the
last and greatest charge of all was that with respect to a speech
he made in 1829. He had been a party to sending forth to the
worle a quibbled and mutilated report ofthat speech, for the pur-
pose of suppressing the truth upon the subject to which
it related. Now these were specific charges; whether they
were worth bringing before the House was another question.
The Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had just sat down
seem to think that it was not, but he for one was of opinion
that the Right Hon. Baronet would have suffered in character
if he had not done so—and being so brought before them, he
must say, in justice to the Right Hon. Baronet, that the answer
he had made had quite relieved his mind from all doubt on the
subject of those charges. He believed, in the first place that
the Right Hon. Baronet in 1825 stated to Lord Liverpool, that
being in a minority in that douse upon Irish questions, it was
n' .t fit and suitable for him to hold a Government situation,
but that he made no declaration or statement to Lord Liver-
pool as to what would be his subsequent course. He believed
in the next place that in 1839, instead of stating what he did
in 1825, he stated exactly the course he adopted in 1828. He
admitted with the Noble Lord that in conning over the debates
of that period there were some passages, such as those relating
to Lord Uxbridge and others on which it would be
gathered that the course the Right Hon. Baronet
adopted in 1828 was similar to that he adopted
in 1825 ; but if they looked to other passages which took place
two or three days afterwards, they would see clearly that the
Right Hon. Baronet did explain exactly what had taken place
in the manner he had done that evening. He admitted that
the Right Hon. Baronet—and he el.d not wander at it—being a
Minister of the Crown, and subjected to repeated accusations,
did not always get up to reply to them. But there was no
doubt that the Right Hon. Bar-net did take an opportunity to
explain all the circumstances connected with the matter.
With respect to the Right Hon. Baronet having brought the
mattnt formally before the House on the present occasion, he
for one thought it was highly important that the Right Hon.
Baronet had done so. He had himself a very imperfect recol-
lection of these debates, hut he certainly did not recollect any-
thing of the kind as stated by the Hon. and Learned Member
for Lynn. A short time ago, however, a " Mirror of Par-
liament" was put into hit hand, and the impression it left upon
his mind was that he must have been mistaken in that which had
occurred. He readily thought that the " Mirror of Parliament"
was more likely to be correct than his own recollection, and he
was therefore glad that the Right Hon. Baronet had taken the
opportunity of making this statement. because it was only
natural that persons should be misled- by the reports of the
Mirror of Parliament." This impression; however, could now
be left on no man's mind, because the Right Hon. Baronet had
clearly shown that the report in Hansard, agreeing with five
newspapers of the day, was likely to be more conformable to the
statements of the Right Hon. Baronet than the report of the

" 'Mirror of Parliament." The statement of the Right Hon.
Baronet had, therefore, in his opinion fully vindicated his
character from the imputations which had been cast upon it by
the Hon. and Learned Member for Lynn. He thought there
war no necessity for taking the opinion of the House with
respect to the opposition which the Right Hon. Baronet made
to Mr. Canning in 1827. But he agreed with the Hon. and
Learned Member for Bath, that the Right Hon. Bart., in taking
the part he had done upon this and other political questions,
had rendered a great service to the country, but he certainly
did not agree with the Hon. and Learned Member that this
aught to protect the Hon. Member from censure, because i
must be remembered that in the course of his political career
the Hon. and Learned Member had altered his opinions twice.
When the Protestant Church and the Protestant institution
was to be defended from the assaults of the Roman Catholics
the Right Hon. Baronet urdertook to lead that defence ; and
again, when the corn-laws were attacked, and powerfully
attacked, both in and out of that House, the Right Hon.
Baronet undertook to lead a party organised for the express
purpose of maintaining them. The Right Hon. Gentleman,
he thought, had upon both occasions ultimately arrived at a
wiser conclusion, which had resulted in his proposing mea-
sures more beneficial to the country. But it must be re-
membered that many of the Right Hon. Gentleman's sup-
porters, relying upon his political wisdon. and upon his elo-
quence in debate, had enrolled themselves as his supporters
while he pursued a particular policy, and it was only natural
that they should offer some resentment when they found
the Right Hon. Baronet forsaking the cause he had so often
and so strongly adhered to. He had said these few words
because he really believed that whatever political difference
might exist between himself and the Right Hon. Gentleman
opposite, the Right Wm. Gentleman in his capacity of First
Minister of the Crown, had done great service to the country,
while it was only justice for him to add, that his statement
that evening had triumphantly vindicated his character from
the slurs which had been cast upon him.
Mr. B. DISR AELI said, he had already spoken at such
great length on this debate that he was not over anxious of the
privilege afforded him on this occasion, and he should therefore
confine himself to the general case which the Right Hon.
Baronet had brought before the House. He should confine
himself to a simple statement of facts, and to an examination
of the allegations which had been made in answer to the charge
of his Noble Friend the Member for Lynn. Arguments he
thought would be out of place and recrimination quite unne-
cessary. He need hardly notice what had fallen from the
Hon. sad Learned Member for Bath, because they all knew
that his speeches were not prepared, and according to the Hon.
and Learned Member's own statement speeches which were not
carefully prepared before delivery in that House were not
worthy of much attention.—( Hear, hear, and laughter. )
With regard to what the Hon. and Learned Member had ad-
dressed " to presumptious and ignorant youths," he should
leave it to be snswered by those 66 presumptuous and ignorant
youths," whom he had no doubt would be found equally as
string as the Hon. and Learned Member,whether in an intellec-
tual, moral, or physical point of view. He now approached
the matter before them, and he would, with the permission of
the House, address himself seriously and anxiously to what
had fallen from the Right Hon. Baronet. In the first place he
might be permitted to observe that throughout the Right Hon.
Baronet's statement there ran a constant and remarkable
fallacy. The Right Hon. Gentleman had assumed through-
out his statement that they had been hunting for evidence,
culled from journals and newspapers of the House, in order to
agNaoisvos,
titthwe oßuilgdhtbeHornemßemarboenreetd,
iernionngethmirmaodsee and declared that the charge was
thatupirp,
eoo av
Right
nagn
hcaht authoritycavhrgoareo
B being
to which he would in a few minutes refer,
totally unfounded, was utterly groundless, and in fact was quite
destitute of all foundation. He defied them to produce any au-
thority to support it, and excepting that challenge, they had
produced reports and documents as collateral illustrations ef the
ccalitairogoe
otfh h
Mr.admad
Hansard,
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iNo
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rh ad
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r,fverted to the
Parliament," i-
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had been so muchrete
was supposed rrcl etos,oiheomud to havestrema been writtenrkthatthe'' byEd a
in-
bMuermghbeßrevoifewL which
House, _who had been present during the
whole of the debate, and conversant with the whole matter, was
produced by them not as a proof, but as an illustration of the
charge which they ha .i made against the Right Hon. Baronet.
He new came to Mr. Barrow. He never meant to say that
ythat parts
the of
Mirror h r e
that gentleman reported a speech which occupied five or six
1826,
hours in the delivery; while he could assure the
liament" had an independent corps of reporters.
okfne
ar knew of
.
He knew that this work did not receive an extensive patronage.
his
souse own tltat in
knowledge,the e arl
A rival sprung up in the shape of " Hansard," and of course
the publication of Mr. Barrow was eventually lim:ted to a very
subsequent
was
in occasion,
the
first
scanty circulation. His authority for saying this was Mr.
a
Barrow himself. He could not produce Mr. Barrow himself,
three
et that
four
t gentleman
years toldafte
afterwards,
him
rd n a
which
Parlia-
ment of the reign of William the Fourth, that he found it was
quite impossible to carry on the publication, as there was not
a sufficient circulation. Now it was not impossible to press
upon such a matter, but merely to set the Right Hon. Baronet
right upon this matter of Mr. Barrow. He believed he was
strictly correct. The reporters made up this cu'led report of
the Right Hon. Gentleman's speech. Now, he must at the
same time remark upon the very circumstance of the reporters
upon the principal journals going together in council upon this
wry speech, and he believed that the report which was given
was the most accurate and authentic record. That was a cir-
cumstance that could not have escaped the calm consideration
of the House. About which did they commit their mistake?
Upon one of the most extraordinary statements that ever was
ssi le by a Minister of the House of Commons.—( Hear,
hear.) That was a circumstance that • could not
for a moment be forgotten. Now, he would put the matter
fairly before the House, and state the facts as they had oc-
curred, and he must not be stopped by the generous interpo-
sition of the Noble Lord the Member for Loudon. The Noble
Lord was so habitual a supporter of the Right Hon. Gentle-
man, that though it was supposed he would have an encounter

of his speech as a fergery, would not that course
be more satisfactory to the House ?—(Hear, hear.) The
Noble Lord did not make this charge upon the authority of the
newspapers, but upon the authority of the printed records of
the Parliamentary debates. The Noble Lord would never
have done anything of the kind. None who read the reports
in the newspapers could help admitting that the present system
of reporting was a wonderful, probably almost the most won-
derful accomplishment of the society in which we lived ; and
though very much improved to what it was twenty years ago,
nobody would attempt to make a charge against a public man
upon the authority of the reports in the news-
papers.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord never lookermnbdu‘cervioghnettuhiihxticlo,id.:l
the reports of te newspapers when he made that charge.—
( Hear, hear.)he He made that
il
ed chargehimself
of
iwselsthv,deha,oayeEf
because
oodouefohmi
could
daeeoboi heard
se
it
from the highest authority—the persons among whom he
lived, and who were acquainted with Mr. Canning, and who
were then the Members of that House—and the Noble Lord
could not for a moment doubt the truth of their statement. He
must remind the House, too, that the speech was heard by the
Noble Gentleman himself, and the speech of Sir E. Knatch-
bull was also heard by him, and therefore they could
not expect that a man who was himself present,
and who spoke from his own personal experience of public
life at that time—they would not expect that such a man was
bound to look into all the newspapers before he ventured to
make his statement. The Noble Lord made his statement
principally from his own recollection of the affair—from what
he had himself seen and heard. It was he who brought the
newspapers. The Right Hon. Gentleman compared the
variations in the newspapers, and accused him (Mr. Disraeli)
with having referred to all the newspapers. Why he
(Mr. Disraeli) referred to the newspapers with very
great reluctance, and even upoa reference to the
ymadaeva
‘v‘raTsimveersy," well known that the reporting staff of it was
by far the most extensive, most complete, and most skilful
of any of the public journals. He offered it in evidence on
that account.—(Hear, hear.) He looked to the " Times,"
which was used amongst the authorities, and he found that
the speech was there reported verbatim. Now he would put
the case fairly before the House. He would put aside all the
" Edinburgh Reviews," and all personal imputations, and all
personal sarcasms and sneers. He would put the question
before the House, and he did not care what their feeling
might be—whether they decided in favour of the person who
dohtrt,lihr,la:AebeviniaenfaiaterlescrdlpTe, or the person who had spoken—the case would be
decided by the calm and deliberate judgment of the public. If
tousra;tiwphnwoaool
sysifeie—tcdthhh
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unfortunate
enaewhtfryioacoe
rdaus
tcslutodpinuicuanl
htdt
aea
vbribethileei feleolrbre. eeneßnei tanwhr
explained ersorlewahHfrieeeor
who
—thite Rthigehset Honfaet.s could be ex-
plained Gentleman might
cnountry with-csinfidence for a verdict
public
theyild
indeed
d a hadpap we
appeal
y to, quoted
tthhee
if he could, in fact, explain to 'the English
why' the
most respectable and influential Members of Parliament
should have got up in that House and make a violent speech
against him, all of which proceeded upon the assumption that
the Right Hon. Gentleman had admitted that in 1825 he was
ready to contsibute his aid in the settlement of the Catholic
question. If he could explain to the country why such expres-
sions as he ( Mr. Disraeli) had read to the House, and which he
could not recapitulate in detail—if he could explain, why, in
, one of the most memorable speeches he positively declared
that in settling
the uestion in 1828 he was prepared to q
do what he had intended to do in 1825—i. the Right Hon.
Gentleman could persuade the public that Sir Edward Knatch-
-1 bull was wrong in making the speech which he had in 1829
might appeal with confidence to
if the Right Hon. Gentleman could persuade the public that
the speeches be (11r. Disaaeli) had quoted were never made, then
the Right Hon. Gentleman
the public for a.verdict, but that must be done. It would not
do to make a speech imputing
the worst motives to his opponents,
and exercising a mos"ngPnmus argumentation upon the most
worthless materials--destroying accusations which never had
been made—(dear, hear)—and gutting an end to charges
which had never been brought forward. That was what they
' required. Tbey did not say they had a right to ask it, The

f~ ,

case was before the House, and they should feel perfectly satis-
fied that it should remain there. It was not that book that he
quoted—it-was not the speeches of Sir Edward Knatchbull, or
the speeches of the Right Hon. Gentleman Which induced
his Noble Friend ever to make the statement which he had
made. . Be spoke from his personal memory, he spoke from
his personal experience—be spoke from that in which he bad
more confidence than his personal memory-and his personal
e/yerience—he spoke from a. deep-rooted and enduring, and
be (Mr. Disraeli) believed a growing conviction, which he—
and especially the friends and family, be believed, of Mr. Can-
ning—had, that the allegation which had been made was a
true allegation', and one which, :he believed, could not be re-
futed.—(Cheers.) " .

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Sir, I think
that the time has arrived, upon every ground, that it would be
desirablethat this debate should be brought to a dose. I do not
intend to reply to the renewed assertions of the Hon. Member
for Shrewsbury, or point out to the House how easy it is by
culling extracts from particular speeches, to give to these a
representation which reading the entire speeches' would not
bear out.—(Cheers.) Sir, I have heard these debates ; I was
present during the whole course of these debates, and I rise,
therefore, rather a witness in the cause than as one about to
enter into an argument. I say that I was present during the
whole of these debates upon the Roman Catholic question, and
I have no recollection whatever of any such expression of opii
nion on the part of Sir Edward Knatchbull, as that to which
the Honourable Gentleman has referred as confirmation
that his suspicions are well.founded. 1 am aware
that the non-recollection of 'a fact ' can prove but
little against any expressions which might, in fact,
have fallen from him. Considering the interest.which I took in
the whole of that proceeding. I think it impossible that's state-
ment of that, kind could have beenl made without fixing itself
in my memory. But, Sir, the
nsreina trestion is, did the Right
year 1825, or was he
then prepared- to make coneessioinscoeen !he Roman Catholic
question.—( Cheers. ) Upon that
best witness to decide in that case. Cacveeiv myself to be the
been, from my first
entrance in' olitical life,in constant private intimacyi with the
Right Hon. Gentleman. I hare sympathised with
the public questions which have been brought beftipbrelrnicPainrliaa-
ment. I have acted in unison with him on every
ques-
tion which has been under discussion —(Cheers.)P Theretm
subsisted between us a most unreserved communication of sen-
timent and opinion, both of a private nature and on public policy,
and at no time has lie taken . any important step in politics
without any being privy, to it. . At the time when
these occurrences took place, I was Secretary for
Ireland, and my Right Hon: Friend was Secretary of State,
under whose directipn I was acting. We concerted' together
upon all occasions upon the opposition to be made to the
Roman Catholic Claims as againstthe Members of the Govern-
ment, and it was impossible in this intimacy that he could
have entertained any change of ppinion without my not being
aware of it.--(Cheers.) I can assure the noise that I never
heard from him a single expression which threw a doubt on
the consistency of his opinions in the year 1825, ands.? much
was I surprised when the Noble LOrd made his statement upon
the first occasion, that I immediately inquired of my Right
Hon. Friend, who was sitting neat me at the time, upon what
ground could such a statement as that, so much at variance
with fact, be made. I rose as I said merely to give evidence
' upon this case, and if the testimony of one who
has been connected with the. Right Hon. Baronet
through all his political life, and who has been intimately
acquainted with the various proceedings which have taken
place during his life—if that testimony be worth anything, it
at once puts an end to the case.—(Loud cheers.) The Hon.
Member for Shreivsbnry has thrown out an insinuation to the
effect that while my Right. Hon. Friend has produced
the letters of the Earl of Liverpool, he has kept back those
letters which his Right Honourable Friend had addressed to
the Noble Earl.—(Cries of" No', no," " Hear, hear.") I am
anxious to state—for my Right. Hon. Friend has authorised
him to do so—that having made search for these letters he has
produced all the letters upon the subject which he could find.
—(Cheers.) Having thus given my evidence, as I thought
it my duty do, I shall not trouble the House any further.
Mr.- T. B. ESTCOURT quite agreed with the Honourable
1 Gentleman who had just sat down, that the. House had had quite
enough of these personal discussions. He would not for a
moment venture to call upon the House for indulgence, if what
he was about to say related only to the question between the
Right Hon. Baronet, the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn,
and the Hon Member for ShrewsbUry, I think that has been
disposed of by the unanimous verdict of the House.—( Cheers. )
I think that the public will well know what motives have ac-
tuated these charges, and will say that it is quite true that the
Right Hon. Baronet might have served his party more, and
kept them more together, but that in serving his
party more he, would have served his country less. When
he considered the rank of the Noble Lord, although
he might compare it with his even humble situation, he Misted
the House would allow him to say a few words. Pt had
been stated by the Noble Lord that he (Mr. Escott) had be-
trayed the interests of his constituents. The Noble Lord said
hat he was one of my constituents, though how he made that
out he did not: know ; he certainly was not aware of the fact.
Lord G. BENTINCK—I have some property at Stock-
bridge. -
Mr. T. B. ESTCOURT—Oh, yes, the Noble Lord had some
stables at Stockbridge, which gave him the right of being
his constituent. He would. tell the Honourable .Member,
with reference to the charge of betraying his con-
stituents that he had called a public meeting of his con-
stituents, and. that• a resolution was passed approving of his
conduct, there being only three bands held up against it. He
would tell the Noble Lord and the Hon. Member for Shrews-
bury that the public 'did not expect that the time of that
House was to be wasted by raking np old debates which took
place twenty years ago.
Mr. B. DISIVAELI--Nineteen years. • •
Mr. T. B. ESTCOURT—The public would not distinguish
the difference between nineteen and twenty years. They would
tell these Hon. Members that' they had beeir impeding the
Government in their desire to ameliorate the condition of the
people of this and the sister country, and had obstructed
measures which had been brought forward, perhaps, too late for
the protection of the 'best interests of the country and the
advancement of all classes of people ,at large. ,
Lord SANDON was surprised that the Noble Lotd the
Member for Lynn, representing a great country party, should
think that he rai'es his party by attempting 'to back up his
statements by reports from old newspapers, and that, having
entered into these discussions, they should back it up by
quoting paragraphs, sometimes from the " Mirror of Parlia-
ment,' from " Hansard," when that suite&him, and from the

that question, and he would say the Right Hon. Baronet him-
self, would not think that the opposition to the measure had
led to any uncalled-for delay in the progress of the Bill.
Mr. VILLIERS explained. What he had said was not
properly understood by the Hon. Member who had just sat
down. He had stated that the opposition of the great landed
proprietors to Mr. Canning was oceasioned by his advocacy of
free trade,
Mr. PETER BORTHWICK rose amidst considerable
laughter. He did not wish to take part in the personal squab-
bles which had that night occupied the time of the. House, for
humble as was his dignity, he did not think that taking his
share in such matters would add one atom in the way of ex-
alting his position. He said, hot/ever, if he had 'reason to
thank the Hon. Gentleman for the compliment which had been
paid to himself. He was sure the Right Hon. Member for
Tamvrorth had great reason to regret that the lion. Gentleman
had taken open him his defence. . Never had any one
more reason to say, " God defend me from my
friends" than had the Hon. Meml er for Tamworth
to-night, when the Hon. Gentleman rose to defend him.—
(The Hon. Gentleman sat down amidst cries of " Divide,"
and " Adjourn.") .
An Hoti..MEstaxa, who moved that the debate on the Pro-
tection of Life (Ireland) Bill should be adjourned to Monday.
remarked that he understood such was the expectation of the
flight Hon. Baronet (Sir James Graham) from what had
fallen from him.

" Times" when it suited him, and overlooking all the papers
which did riot suit him. He ventured to say, that if they were
to take one hundred gentlemat upon this question, their
opinions would he decidedly in faiour of the Right Hon. Baronet.
Now he spoke in this manner certainly with no bias in favour
of the Right Hon. Baronet, and with no desire to cast into the
shade the memory of Mr. Canning. He would apeak rather as
that great Minister's ardent friend, as he hoped he had proved at
the time when be was connected with the Administration in

Mr. HUMS here pointed to the clock, it being but twenty
minutes past eleven o clock,

Sir JAMES GRAHAM consented to the adjournment,
which was agreed to. •

CHURCHES BILL

1827.—(Hear, hear.) Ho then declined to serve with the
Right Hon. Thironet, partly because of the Cathclic question,
and partly because of the opposition which the Right Hon.
Baronet gave to Mr. Canning. He would not disguise that he
had seen with regret the course pursued by the Right Hon.
Baronet at that time, but he woultnot accuse him of the dis-
honourable conduct which the Noble Lord ascribed to him.
He thought the Right Hon. Baronet ought to have inter-
posed to check the language which had been used,
by his supporter when opposing Mr. Canning and his Govern-
ment ; but still he did not believe that he had acted in the
manner described by the Noble Lord, still less did he believe
that if he had so acted he would afterwards have had the weak-
ness to admit it The case was dubious at the best, and when
the Noble Lord saw that four or five of the newspapers were
opposed to the view which he had taken, he ought to have
exercised some caution before he made this statement to the
House. He thought he was called upon to express this opinion.
He did so, and no one could tax him with being a servile fol-
lower of the Right Hon. Baronet, or that he had sacrificed
office when he might have been a Cabinet Moister. He de.
clined it because he could not act with the Right Hon. Baronet.
He had never fawned upon those in power • he had acted
honestly and independently, and therefore he claimed to be
heard as giving an unbiassed and independent opinion on this
subject. There was a general belief, even in the agri-
cultural districts to which the Noble Lord had so
frequently referred,, that more evil had been done by
the Noble Lord, by his prolonged resistance to the Govern-
ment measure than would possibly follow from the 1 assing of
the measure itself. The Noble Lord spoke of appealing to the
country. He (Lord Sandon) should have no fear of meeting
the Noble Lord in any country or on any hustings and appealing
to the people, either on this question or on any of the other mea-
sures brought forward by her Majesty's Government. He
trusted the House would not be much longer detained by the
abortive attempts to prove a crime against one of her Majesty's
Ministers.
Mr. NEWDEGATE rose, and was beginning to address
the House, when

Mr. HODGSON moved the second reading ef this Bill.
and explaiued its nature and provisions.
Mr. HENLEY would object to the second reading unless
all the alterations proposed as to the levying of the poor-rates,
and the appointment of parish overseers, were struck out.
Mr. HUME would object to the second reading if the sug-
gestion of the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down were
carried out, as the Bill would then become useless.
But he objected to it in its present form, first,
because it recited twelve or thirteen Acts of Par
ment which ought to have been repealed ; and secondly,
because it authorised three-fourths of the inhabitants
to raise rates for the building of churches, despite the remain-
ing fourth of the people. He there ore moved that the Bill
should be read a second time that day six months.
Sir H. ELPHIN STONE said that he quite agreed with his
Hon. Friend that the present system of repairing churches, by
means of church-rates, was a very bad one ; and where a dis-
trict containing several parishes, having a large church, existed,
it would be under the necessity of levying a separate rate in
each parish. This Bid reir oved such a necessity, and it should
therefore have his support.
After a few words from Mr. HAWES,
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the effect of the present.
Bill would be to render the law more complicated than it now
existed. The first object of the Bill he was disposed to believe
was effected by the existing law ; and with regard to the other
twe objects, he had an insuperable objection to them, for he
was not disposed to carry the power of building churches by
church rates further than the present law allowed. He thought
that it would be better to adjourn the question, in order that the
pill might be considered by the Law Officers of the Crown,
and afford an opportunity of introducing a Bill which would he
better calculated to meet the objects in view.
Sir R. H. INGLIS concurred in the view taken by the
Right Hor.. Baronet. He thought an adjournment for ten
days would give an opportunity for re-considering the Bill.
Mr. B. ESCOTT, thought the clauses were so objection-
able, that the Bill ought to be thrown out at once, instead of
trying to amend it in Committee.
Mr. HODGSON defended the details of the Bill against the
thought urgedhtthe againstinhabitants Mr. of parishes, who
objectionsr.vr. which
had
might be called upon to subscribe under it, would have great
objections to its provisions.
The second reading of the Bill was then negatived without a
division.
CLERK OF THE PEACE AND CLERK OF THE
CROWN (IRELAND) BILL,

Lord SANDON said, in explanation, that the Noble
Lord behind him imagined that he (Lord Sandon) had I.ffirmed
that the Noble Lord had read all th : newspapers when making
his inquiries on the subject. He (Lord Sandon) had not said
so ; he had only supposed, very naturally supposed, that the
Hon. Member for Shrewsbury would have looked at all the
papers of that day to see if he had the concurrence of every
journal in his opinion upon the subject.
Mr. NEWDEGATE said that he could not refuse to
give credit to the statement made by the Noble Lord on
this matter. He could not satisfactorily account for the in-
sertion of two paragraphs in two separate journals unless
there was something existing which warranted those insertions.
He asked the Noble Lord (Lord Sandon) how he could other-
wise account for the appearance of those concurrent para-
graphs in two newspapers, unless there was something to
justify them. (An Hon. Member—" What papers?") The
"Mirror of Parliament," and the " Times " newspapers—
k Ironical cheers, and cries of " Oh, oh ")—lf there was a con-
spiracy, as he supposed they intended to insinuate, how could
they account for the turn which the debate took afterwards?—
( Hear, hear, and cheers.) It was his humble opinion that
taking that insertion of those paragraphs, together with what
occurred in the debate afterwards—considering also the oppor-
tunities which the Noble Lord had of forming a correct esti-
mate of these circumstances—he could not avoid coming to the
conclusion that the Noble Lord was perfectly justified in the
statement he had made to the House. Ha believed that the
Noble Lord had brought forward this charge with the purest
intentions, and he had certainly satisfied him ( Mr. Newde.
gate) that he had good grounds for this assertion.
regret Mr. HUME said that he had witnessed with deep
the
course which had been taken in the attack upon the Right
Hon. Baronet. It was quite possible that the whole matter
might have arisen from a mistake in the journals which had
been so often referred to, but every one would see cause to re-
gret that the party opposite had persisted, notwithstanding the
triumphant answer of the Right Hon. Baronet. How the
Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, could deliver his
opinion in the way he had done, was to him (Mr. Hume) a
matter of surprise; but there was one thing which had not
been alluded to that night, and which he thought would set
the question completely at rest. It was this, in the year
Ins, when the Duke of Wellington
the
bring forward the Catholic Emancipation
resignation,
Right Honourable Baronet tendered
and the letter of the Right lion. parmiet, addressed to the
for.ward that qui Duke was was read to the House in bringing
that the Right Hon.
tion• In that letter it was
opinion,
,and he afterwards expressly
Baro-
net had not changed his opini
stated, that although he hadh. carried
o inoiuetethatTmhaetasau,riemaisfstieernwaer.da'ss
onp after. occasions. He (Mr.
he had never once asliteesrtedhheis
undersfand why the party which
frequently used
Home) could not, therefore,
was led by the Noble Lord should have pursued this course
after the very triumphant explanation which had been made
by the Right Hon. Gentleman, and nothing but the meanest
party motives could have prompted thein to persist in this state-
;lea. He had expected that after that explanation the Noble
Lord, the Member for Lynn, would have risen in his place to
have said that he was sorry in having broieght forward this
charge.
Lord MORP Err H having had thehonour of neeupying a seat
in Parliament at the time that Mr. Canning was at the head of
the Administration, trusted the House would bear with him
while he addressed a few remarks upon this subject. He had
felt for that great Minister feelings of the most profound ad-
miration, and although he did not sympathise in the political
measures of Mr. Canning, he yet viewed with great disappro-
bation the course pursued by the Right lion. Baronet at that
period. The Noble Lord, the Member for Lynn, had brought
forward certain charges against the Right Hon. Baronet.
He would not attempt to repeat them, but he must say, that he
gave the utmost attention to them, and he had no reason for
thinking them to be true, on the contrary he had every reason
to believe that they were untrue. He was confirmed in this

Lord LINCOLN obtained leave to bring in it Bill to provide
that the office of Clerk of the Peace and Clerk of the Crown in
Ireland should be hereafter filled by the same person.
PUBLIC BATHS AND WASH-HOUSES.
Oa the motion of Sir G. GREY,
Leave was given to bring in a Bill for promoting the volun-
tary establishment, in boroughs and parishes in England and
Wales, of public baths and wash-houses.
The House adjournedat a Quarter past Twelve.

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impression-by his distinct recollection of Mr. ,Zt^^~
up in the House, and saying in a marked mane t
resignation`-of the Right Hon. Baronet he was jiliat pfeparec.-
He considered, therefore, to use the Right HoifEttleffetlististiAlaw
words, that the charge attempted to be set up against him had
been completely shattered.—( Hear, hear.) With refer-
ence to the. general state of politics, he was, like .
the . Noble Lord, prepared. to vote with him, and _
againstihe Right Hon. Gentleman, but he could. not .help
qualifying that vote by expressing his great regret that he
should be ohligertto-do so at a moment when he was conduct..
ing to a triumphant issue the greatest question which perhapi
had ever been agitated in that House.—(Hear.)
Mr. VILLIERS said that he did not consider it beside the
question to ask to what side Mr. Canning. if he were
would attach himself.—( Hear, hear.) They had heard ..
wonderful professions of respect and veneration for that illus-
trious man, but the Noble Lord was allied at the very
moment with that very party who had hunted him to death.—
(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had identified himself with
the very party and the very principles most opposed to that of -
his illustrious relative; and what was the reason that be wets:,
assailed in that bitter spirit? It was because he had attacked
the corn monopoly. That was the occasion for all the
bitterness of feeling which had been manifested; and
he was attacked precisely in the language which was now
used against the Right Honourable Gentleman. It was the
law of 1815 which the landed interest were attached to. Mr.
Canning saw its gross imposition, and he was determined to
do away with it and carry out free trade; and that he could
assure the House was the reason he was insulted and then
assailed. And now the Noble Lord made these charges.
Ile had identified himself with every enemy of Mr. Canning.
How, then, and with what grace could he make them, even if
they were true? He was sure that Mr. Canning, if he were
alive, with- his generous spirit, which was his cha-
racteristic, would join heart and soul in the great move-
ment which they were now about carrying out.—( Hear.)
Theparty'which the Noble Lord represented, had joined in the
crv, because their immediate interests were attacked. The
Noble Lord knew these facts as well as hicould tell him. Why
what was the question they were then discussing ? The cha-
racter of the Prime Minister. The people took no interest in
acertain point of view -in the question, but he could tell the Noble
Lord that they received with unmitigated disgust the per-
senal attacks which had beenrnade upon the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman ;_and there was one class in the country who would
take no interest in it, and that was the British farmer, of
whom they were always talking. • They brought evidence
against the Right Honourable Gentleman of nineteen
years standing._( Hear, - hear.) And ;for the last ten
years they had been always preaching to the British farmer
to put their trust in the Right Hon. Baronet. Although
they had this evidence in their pockets against him, and they
had, beenxaan temlihiong
couldth Britishlead farmer that he was the
only
them safely:
and that he was the only man- It-
and
trust-
worthy, with what decency could these cwhaorges wasecurely.
havebeen
brought forward ? The Noble Lord had draw-ne distinction
between following the Prime Minister and followingLord
Stanley. Why; Lord Stanley followed the Right Hon. Baronet.
and the Noble Lord had followed Lord Stanley, and where was
the difference though the distinction bad been taken. Did or
did not the Noble Lord follow the Right Hon. Gentleman ?
( Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had professed that he was
exceedingly shocked by treachery to party. Why, he must
recollect that his leader (Lord Stanley), when he used to cross
the House, after he changed his opinion, was met with such
jeers that he had at last to sit upon the side of the House to
which_ he. had_seceded. Yet the Honourable Member for
Lynn, who followed that Noble Lord, was shocked—
exceedingly shocked, at treachery to party.—(Hear, hear.)
The public were beginning to be worn out by he personal
quarrels of that House.—( Hear, hear.) The public looked
upon such personal matters with 'disgust—they looked upon
these personal attacks as disgraceful to the House—disgraceful
to its honour and dignity, and disgraceful to those who made
them, and to those who took part in them. His opinion was,
that the result of those attacks would be, that instead of
damaging the Right Hon. Baronet, it would but exalt him in
the estimation of the public.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN said that h 3 was the only
Member in that part of the House who escaped the
sweeping censure of the Honourable Member who
had just sat down. The Honourable Gentleman
had made a charge against a Noble Friend of his
( Lord Stanley) - with having changed Lis principles.
and the great reason why the Honourable Member had
charged the Noble Lord with change of principles was not
that he had swerved from his principles entirely, but that he
had done so by introducing the Canada Bill. The Hon.
Member had charged that part of the House with having
offered an opposition to this measure wholly uncalled for, and
the result of which was only to delay the passing of the mea-
sure. He felt that this charge of protracting that debate was
not only uncalled for, but that it was only consistent with
the character of the House that that debate should have been
a lengthy one ; and compared with the great magnitude
of the question, that its whole bearings should
have been discussed. It was quite consistent with
the charlcter of the House, that whenever a great
change was proposed it should be freely discussed, and
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prey at the first blow. Lord STANHOPE,
from an ardent regard to his species, got up a fright-
ful scream, but:all in vain ; thirty-three " men-of-war
frigates" appeared in the field, and the fish was lost for
ever. The Earl of WICKLOW was the next to try to
reach his nest. His fish was a " fixed duty." The same
ill-luck attended him. The "frigates" were on the
look-out--another fight, another scream, and off flew
the " boobies." How many more similar disasters
these unfortunate birds may wish to meet, we cannot
divine; but we should recommend them a little
repose.
The debate upon the fixed duty amendment pre-
sented nothing new in the shape of argument. The
Marquis of CLANRICARDE sought to detract from the
high opinion justly entertained of the merits of Sir
ROBERT PEET. as a Minister, not only in both Houses
of Parliament, but by the country at large.
We think the Marquis missed his aim. We are
strictly a practical people, and Sir ROBERT is essen-
tially a practical man. As such he is eminently quali-
fied to sway the destinies of our great empire, whose
lcommercial interests are so extensive, and at the same
time so artificially interwoven one with another. The
Premier is an apt scholar of the Baconian school. He
builds and acts upon experience. The prosperity of
this country would be fearfully hazarded if we were
governed by statesmen of a mercurial temperament,
who would rashly embrace every plausible theory on 1
its first promulgation. One precipitate step, in a com-
plicated state of society like ours, might engulf us
in irretrievable ruin. When great changes are sug-
gested, it is not impolitic on the part of public men
in office to resist their rapid adoption, with
the view of securing their being sifted in
all their bearings in every possible way,
till repeated reflection, as well by the representa-
tives as by those they represent, and till, in some
instances, experiments upon a small scale having first
been successfully tried, shall yield us the strongest
presumption that national prosperity will be accele-
rated by developing the principles recommended.
Supposing Sir R. PEEL had years ago (and before he
had experimented upon their principles, as he has
done by his tariff of 1842, his foreign cattle im-
portation scheme, his Canada Corn Bill, &c.), had
sympathised with the opinions of the League, would
he then have had the slightest chance of carrying
them through the process of legislation ? Certainly
not. Nay, had he been conscientiously convinced
long ago of what he is now, and propounded his pre-
sent measures, the probability is he would not, for
years to come, hare had the power he now enjoys of
effectuating them. The truth flashed out unwittingly
from the Marquis of OLANRICARDE when he said,
"Every one of Sir R. PEEL'S changes had been with
the current of the moment ; and a single instance
could not be found on record in which he had
changed his opinion in the House of Commons and
had been beaten upon that question." This involves
no n.ean compliment. It admits a practical sagacity
which constitutes a chief desideratum in the mind of
a Minister of England.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA talked downright nonsense.
He contended it was a most unconstitutional course
for the House to pledge the next Parliament to any
course of policy for the three next years. We are
surprised at such twaddle. If the argument, or
rather assertion, were a good one, it would follow
that every fresh Act should contain a clause limiting
its duration to that of the Parliament which passed
it. As Mr. Fox said, a Parliament once elected,
there is nothing it is not competent to deal with.
Lord STANLEY and Lord BROUGHAM are now in
their element. They have both of them got into
good sparring condition—they both love the science.
They are both finished debaters, in the limited sense
of the word. We have no doubt their Lordships
will be enlivened by frequent exhibitions of their
gladiatorial skill. Lord STANLEY will be
found no match for his adversary where
any question demands the exercise of large,
broad, and constitutional views. Let Lord STANLEY
choose his own ground, and that a narrow one, and
then, by the aid of "spicy" personalities, which he
and his gifted opponent equally delight to revel in,
we augur their oratorical rivalry will be entertaining
enough.
Lord STANLEY has again pressed for an ap-
peal to the country. His affected ignorance
of all constitutional rule is palpable. He
would unnecessarily appeal to the passions
of the people, when he knows that one of the funda-
mental advantages of a legislature is to pass laws
divested of those passions which always injuriously
affect the deliberations of the multitude. We have
all the constitutional requisites in favour of the mea-
sure. The Commons have passed it by an over-
whelming majority. Without one exception, every
man of weight and long-tried public service, on both
sides of the Lower House, swelled the majority. The
Lords have already affirmed the principle by a
considerable majority; and setting Lords STANLEY
and ASHBURTON on one side, every Peer of known
public influence has voted in favour of the second read-
►ng. The Crown too, we know, is likewise favour-
able to the measure. Under such circumstances the
Protectionists plead for a dissolution I.
One word with Lord STANLEY. He observed,
upon the division of thirty-three, that it was
" small by degrees and beautifully less." This
was not honest, and it will not serve to
mislead the country. We shall, therefore, repeat
what we have before stated. The division on the
main question was 47. This number included the
" proxies." Deducting the " proxies," it was tauntingly
remarked, that Ministers had only a majority of 12
upon the second reading. The division of 33 in
Committee was independent of " proxies ;" so that, in
point of fact, as far as the Peers present were con-
cerned, Ministers increased their majority by 21.
This must not be lost sight of. The vessel of free
trade is sailing gallantly towards us, and will soon be
safely moored.

RAILWAY SHARES BY PUBLIC SALE.
MESSRS. LAMOND, SMALE, AND
LA-MOND, Railway Share Auctioneers, beg to thank their
Friend. and the Public for their continued support and patronage,
and to announce that their Public Sales of Railway Shares, &c.,
take place every Tuzsbar and FRIDAY, at One o'clock, at the
Hall of Commerce, Threadneedle-street, London, to which place,
favours, containing instructions (with a reference), are respectfidly
requested to be addressed,

All Scrip and Share Certificates must be deposited, at least
3ne day previously to their being offered ; and advices of results
will be forwarded by the first post ;after the sale, and the proceeds
immediately disposed of according to instructions.
Oiticza, all of Commerce, Threadneedle-street, London.

HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE.
Signor FORNASARI his the honour to acquaint the Nobility,
Pau-ons to the Opera, his Friends, and the Public, that his BE-
NEFIT will take place on

THURSDAY NEXT, JUNE 25,
When will be performed Verdi's celebrated Opera, entitled,
N I N 0,
'Anus, Signor Fornasari ; Idaspe, Signor Corelli; Orotasphe, Signor
Butelli ; lemma, Mdlle. Corbari ; Abigail, Mdlle. Sanchioli.
To be followed by a DIVERTISSEMENT, in whick
LuJle Grahn will appear.
After which (for this occasion only), Gnecco's Opera Buffo,
LA PROVA D'UN OPERA SERIA.
Corals., Madame Grisi ; Campanone, Signor Lablache ; Sedrico,
Signor Corelli ; Griletto, :ignor F. Lablache.
To conclude with the highly successful new Grand Oriental Ballet,
by M. Perrot ; the Music composed and partly selected from
fiellcien David's Ode Symphonique of The Desert," by Sig. l'ugui,
entitled,
LALT. A ROOKH ; or, THE ROSE OF LAHP, _
The principal parts sustained by Cerito, Mdlle. . T glion ,
St. Leon, and M. Perrot. Principal
by Manes. iDane
lelisse —Pas
Denes : Tableau,
•
S,yroborciue, by Cerito.
Cassan, James, and Honore, and the corps de ballet. Tableau.—Le
Chlbouck, l'as Sent, by Mdlle. Cerito. Last Tableau.—Feast of
Rases, Pas de Corbeils, by Mdlles. L'..kmoreUx. and Julien, and the
corps de ballet ; Pas de Neuf, by Mdlles. Cerito, L. Taglioni, and M.
St. Leon, supported by Mettles. Demelisse, Casson, James, L'Alnoreax.
Julien, and Honore.
Applications for boxes, stalls, and tickets to be made at the box
office, Opera Colonnade. Doors open at Seven, the Opera to corn-
menco at half-past Seven o'clock.

HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE.
THIS EVENING,
Will be perfbrated Donizetti's favourite Opera, entitled,
LITOIA DI LAMMERMOOR,
Lucia, 31,111 e. Castellan ; Edgardo, Signor Mario; Enrico, Signor
Fornasari Bidebent, Signor F. Lablache.
To conclude with the new Grand Oriental Ballet, entitled
LALLA ROOKIE; THE ROSE OF LAHORE.

THEATRE ROYAL, DRURY-LANE.
ON M EVENING
Will be performed the GraOndNDAY Opera, entitled THE CRUSADERS.
The principal characters will be sustained by Messrs. W. Har-
rison, Borrani, Horncastle, S. Jones, Weiss, Stratton, D. W. King.
Iliac Romer, and Miss Itainforth.
To conclude with the celebrated Ballet, called THE DEVIL TO
PA Y. In which will appear Madlles. Carlotta Grisi, Adele, Louise,
Les S4murs St. Lorin, Madame Ginbilei ; Messrs. Adrien, Silvain,
W. H. Payne, Wieland, &c.

THEATRE ROYAL, HAYUARILET.
THIS EVENING

Will be performed Shalvpere's Tragedy of ROMEO AND
JULIET. Romeo, Miss Cushman; Peter, Mr. Buckstone ; Juliet,
Miss SllsanCustiman ; Nurse, Mrs. Glover.

Tbe Band will perform the Overtures, " Cenerentola," and " Due
d'Olonue." the " St. James's Polka," " Philomel Walzer," and
the " Chatsworth Quadrilles."
To be followed by the admired Drama of GRANDFATHER
WHITEHEAD. Grandfather Whitehead, Mr. W. Farren ; Dray-
ton, Mr. Tilbury; Langley. Mr. Stuart; Louisa Drayton, Mrs.
Seymour; Susan, Mrs. Stanley.
To conclude with a New Farce, called LEND ME FIVE SHIL-
LINGS. Mr. Golightly, Mr.Buckatone ; Capt. Phobbs, Mr. Tilbury ;
Capt. Spruce, Mr. Brindal ; Mrs. Major Phobbs, Miss P. Horton.

THEATRE ROYAL, LYCEUM.
UNDER THE MANAGEMENT OF MRS. KEELEY.
THIS EVENING
The performances will commence with the Drama, entitled, A
FRIEND INDEED.

After which, a New and Original Comic Drama, la Two
Acts, foamled on a recent well-known event, called THE DUST-
MAN'S BELLE. Principal characters by Messrs. Keeley, Did4ear,
Meadows, F. Vining, Kinloch ; Miss Villars, and Mrs. Keeley.
To be followed by HONOURS AND TRICKS. In which Mr. and
Mrs. Keeley will appear.
To conclude with a :Jew Farce, called SISTER ANT) I. Characters
by Messrs. F. Matthews, Meadows, A. Wigan, Emery, Turner,
Kinloch, and Bellingham ; Miss E. Daly, Mrs. Wigan, Miss Arden,
aad Miss Forster.

THEATRE ROYAL, ADELPIII.
THIS EVENING
Will be performed a new Drama, entitled THE MEMOIRS OF
AN UMBRELLA; or, The Silent Observer. In which Messrs.
La nbert, Howe, Boyce, 0. Smith, Wright, R. Ryan, P. Bedford,
Selby ; Miss Woolgar, Mrs. Yarnold, Miss E. Chaplin, Mrs. F.
Mathews, &c., will perform.
After which r New Romantic Drama, in Six Tableaux, called
THE QUEEN OF THE ABRUZZI. The principal characters sus-
tained by Madame Celeste, Miss Chaplin ; Messrs. Paul Bedford,
0. Smith, Cullenford, Ryan, Boyce, &c.
To conclude with the interesting Drama of THE CABIN BOY.
Monsieur Vincent, Mr. 0. Smith ; Largarcette, Mr. Paul Bedford ;
Julien. Madame Celeste; Madlle. Laroche, Miss Woolgar.

PRINCESS'S THEATRE, OXFORD-STREET.
First Night of Madame VESTRIS and Mr. C. 311 THEWS.
ON MOND IY EVENING
Will be presented the Comedy of THE BUSY BODT. Marplot,
Mr. C. Mathews.

After which, THE FOLLIES OF A NIOIIT. Duchess de Char-
tres, Madame Vestris ; Pierre Palliot, Mr. Charles Mathews.
To be followed by -4. SPEAKING LIKENESS. Manette,
Madam• Vestris.
To conlude with a Grand Fairy Ballet, entitled TUE SPIRIT
OF AIR. Principal characters by Miss Hodson, Mr. Flexmore,
Miss Faucit, Miss Bailin, Mr. Gilbert, Mr. and Mies Marshall, &c.

ASTLEY'A itOYAL AMPHITB &AIRE.
Proprietor. Mr. W. Batty.
Under the especial patronage of her Most Gracious Majesty, and
their Royal Highnesses Prince Albert, the Prince of Wales, and
the Princess Royal. Glorious success of the new Military Spec-
tacle of our Asiatic Conquests. Second and Last Week of the
veritable General Tom Thumb, in his popular Drama.
THIS EVENING

Will be performed the New Asiatic Spectacle, called THE
SIKHS' INVASION ; or, Our Victories of 1346. In which the
whole resources o: the Establishment will be brought forward.
splendid SCENES of the HIPPODROME, by the French and
English Artistes.

Tbe whole concluding w h the laughable Extravanga of HOP
O' MY THUMB ; or, The Ogre and his Seven League Boots. In
which General Tom Thumb will appear, and Introduce his Nigger
melodies, dance: &c.

Mr. BATTY resoectfaliy begs to announce, that the THIRD
MORNING REPRESENTATION, for the accommodation o: the
Juvenile Branches of the Nobility, Gentry, &e. will take place
THIS DAY, June 19, commencing et two o'clock.
Bon-office open from eleven till Jve o'clock.—Doors open at elx
•nd commence at seven o'clock.

ROYAL SURREY THEATRE.
The Last Night of Mr. CHARLES MATHEWS and. Madame
VESTRIS.
MORE NOVELTY AND ATTRACTION.
WELCH GlRL—Madame Vastris.
MATTHEWS AND CO.—Mr. Charles Matthews.
LOAN OF A LOVER. WHY DON'T SHE MARRY
RAVENS OF ORLEANS.
By Messrs. Hughes, Johnson, Cowell, Rogers ; Mrs. H. Vining, Mrs,
Hughes, Mtn Martin, and Mrs. Daly.
HE WOULD BE AN ACTOR.

NEW STRAND THEATRE
Opera every Evening, with the greatest Novelties of the Day.
M. PHILLIPPE feels happy to announce, that the extraordinary
Performances of the MONKEYS and DOGS have been received
with the greatest admiration and applause, and will be continued
every Evening at the above Theatre.

Doors open at a Quarter before Eight • to commence at a Quarter
after Eizht o'clock. Stalls, 35.; Boxes, 2s, ; lit, Is.; Gallery, 6d. ;
Privateßoxes, I/. Is. and 10s. 6d.
M. PHILLIPPE will give his Performances EVERY EVENING
at the STANDARD THEATRE, Shoreditch.
PHILLIPPE wants a Gentleman who could twee
the management of hts business, as a PARTNER, throughout the
large TOWILS of the United ICiriffkloni. A security of 600/. will be
required. For Particulars apply at the Strand Theatre, between
the hours of Eleven and One o'clock.

Under the Patronage of her Most Gracious Majesty.
ROYAL SURREY ZOOLOGICAL GARDENS.
EVERY ISONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND
THURSDAY.
VIEW of NAPLES, ERUP TION of VESUVIUS, DESTRUC-
-IION of HERCULANEU:SI and POMPEII, in the year "19. This
inagniiiceut spectacle is revived in an unprecedented scale of
grandeur, the picture being more than twice the size of the former,
and represents, as accurately as Can possibly be dons, the Great
Eruption of Vesuvius in the year 79, when the Destruction of Iler-
caianeum and Pompeii took place: produced under the direction
(st Mr. Danson.

A richly ornamented GOTHIC BRIDGE of STATUES has been
constructed, which will be brilliontly Illuminated at Night.
The P-ROMENADE CONIIERTS are again confided to Mr. God-
frey. The Band is most couplete in all its departments, and includes
many eminent native and ffeign musicians.
• In addition. to the other at-tractions'of the Gardens, will be exhi-
bited CALYPSO'S FAIRY GROTTO, approached by the Illumi-
nated Gothic Bridge, representing iii the Interior Telemachus
relatitii hPs tictventures to Calypso.
fits PYROTECHNIC,' DISPLAYS, by Mr. Soutliby, are on the
misi:complete and effective scale.
Preceding the Volcanic Display, a novel exhibition will be intro-
duced, repres.mting, the Descent of Phrebus in the Chariot of the Sun.
Atoms. Farineill will descend front a Chinese Pagoda, seventy feet in
height, to the surface of the lake, where a Naiad's Car will rise to
ree elvo Lim, and bear him to his chrystal home.
a,.T.he Giese Conservatory is sptcaditily ornamented with festoons
enabling the visitors to view the matchless collection of
s-722:7a by au-light.
fig a;--(1v21, tah_e Carnivore at half-past five; the Pelicans, Btc., at
v.., • t hair-past six ; and the Eruption at dusk.
Adinission, One Shilling.

Wa&Trita..—in-R OFFICE, JUNE 19.
THE RMoMETEIt, Lowest, 58; Highest,
BA ROM}:TER, 81 ; Noon. 76. fine.

The three remaining resolutions, founded on the re-
commendations of the Board of Trade, were on Thurs-
day agreed to, after some discussion, in the Howe
of Commons. The third resolution appears to be in
the nature of an instruction to future Committees of
the House in the next session, and an encouragement
to persons to undertake the construction of new lines.
ft is, that in order to complete the general chain
of narrow gauge communication from the north of
England to the southern coast, and to the port of
13ristol, any suitable measures should be promoted to
other shortelrob
form a narrow gauge link from Gloucester to Bristol,
and also from Oxford to Basingstoke, or by any
connectingxl3froor'd'teline
Railway,
u y
for future iegi,sl:tion with the South-Westernthe proposed
go
far
a attendantn d
remove
i f
a ae:dr:apa thet adopted d
considerable
break
ahere-
tok
of
we have
reseadn, i s a suggestion
after, it will
part of the inconvenience
gauge. It is founded on the
Gauge Commissioners. There is little doubt tf hi
t at
much public benefit would be derived therefrom, and
the only question will be for the speculatora. to Say
whether the undertakings are likely tobe remunera
and to afford a fair return for the
great
narrowenditu gretauuhgee
incurred. It is probable that the ga
companies will assist and become parties to the projects
N.l hich will doubtless be formed for the purpose of
giving effect to the resolution. We have alrepei, y
stated our opinion as to the vast importance of a
second continuous line of railway to Ireland, whmil
wdl be the medium of communication to the entire
of the south of Ireland, and, in all probability, to
tLe western hemisphere. This is conclusive ai to

which are called on to effect these double lines have no
fair cause of complaint against the additional expense
thus entailed upon them. They are purchasers with
notice, having undertaken, at the time of obtaining
the Acts by which they were incorporated, to lay
down such additional lines with all convenient speed,
if required so to do by the Board of Trade, in con-
formity with the report of the Gauge Commissioners.
But the question of vast importance in the pre-
sent instance is —Can the twofold gauge
exist with perfect safety on the same line ?
Some doubts have existed on this subject,
and it has been said that there would be great diffi-
culty and confusion in the working, but we cannot
conceive it possible that the Board of Trade should
have overlooked so obvious a consideration, should
have neglected so important an element in the calcu-
lation. We therefore must assume that b:fore they
acted on the authority conferred on them, and im-
posed the additional expense of a second line
of rails on the two companies, they must
have fully satisfied themselves that there would
be no additional danger attendant on such a course,
and that the difficulties could not be of an insuperable
nature. The question then must be answered in the
affirmative, that the broad and narrow gauge may be
united without danger. The broad gauge being still
retained, there is nothing to prevent the Legislature
to compel any future companies which may be
formed for the construction of new railways

in the neighbourhood of existing broad gauge
lines, to lay down a double line of rails. By this
means, any further break of gauge may be avoided,
and the companies can have no cause of complaint at
the increased expense to be occasioned thereby, be-
cause they will have been acquainted with the .addi-
tional outlay rendered necessary before they had ob-
tained the sanction of Parliament to their projects. A
fair opportunity will now be afforded of testing the sys-
tem, and should it be found to act well, and to be advan -
tageous to the public that it should be further extended,
a similar power should be reserved to the Board of
Trade, in all nefv projects, of compelling the laying
down double rails, should it appear advisable, the
Board making a special report to Parliament in every
case when about to exercise that power. Of course it
will be necessary to have a Bill brought in to give
effect to the second resolution, but, from the state..
ment of Sir GEORGE CLERK, it appears that it has
not yet been decided whether it shall be a separate
Bill, or part of one for the general regulation of
railways.

We yesterday directed the reader's attention to
the prevalence of an anxiety amongst the populace
to testify their gratitude to such individuals as have
ameliorated the condition of the empire, or promoted
its prosperity. Our satisfaction upon this particular
might have been appropriately coupled with our dis-
satisfaction upon another—our joy at the spontaneous
and graceful tributes offered by the public to
its most meritorious members, with our disgust at
the deliberate ingratitude or the niggardly recom-
pense with which these persons are usually rewarded
by Government. And here, be it observed, we em-
ploy the word Government in its most diffuse and
generalised signification, as the failing in this
respect is attributable alike to a Whig Admi-
nistration and a Tory Administration, a Con-
servative as well as a Liberal. There is
scarcely in the register of bygone genius an instance
to be adduced in which a national benefactor has not
in some measure been officially neglected ; in which
he has not encountered on the part of those in autho-
rity the most discouraging indifference ; or, if at
length any acknowledgment of his services has been
extorted, that acknowledgment has arrived so tardily as
to afford him neither solace nor compensation—being
expended either in the alleviation of his decrepitude
or of his premature prostration, or yet worse, in the
erection of some empty mausoleum of emblazoned
granite. Hence we behold a Sir HUGH MIDDLETON,
beggaring himself to gratify the palates and to
strengthen the constitutions of all future Londoners ;
hence we find a CHATTERTON, in a garret near
Holborn," perishing gloomily, spurred by contumely,"
and personally slighted by that fribbling statesman,
WsueoLE ; hence, also, in our days we discover such
an intellect as that of THOMAS HOOD dwindling
down unnoticed under the corrosive influence of over-
work and disease combined, rewarded by the
State only by (that mockery of a re-
compense !) a pension to his widow ! We
could continue this mournful catalogue through many
chapters, but the fact of official neglect to genius, or
ingenuity, or modest worth (when unaccompanied
by the glory of prowess in arms), is so far from
requiring any demonstration, that it is become
one of the proverbial vices of legislation. Our
intention, however, at present is, neither to deal
with the pittance of the poet, the utter disre-
gard of the philanthropist, or the unsympa-
thised struggles of the philosopher—it is simply to
commemorate another instance of gratitude in the
people, and of ingratitude in the Government, towards
one of the foremost of those who are de-
sirous of beholding the practical improve-
t of their country and of their ge-
neration. As if to signalise the displeasure
of the population at that unaccountable act of un-
graciousness to Mr. Rovrasein HILL, by which he
was officially discharged from any further connexion
with the Post-office department, a tribute of money
has been collected amongst all classes of the
community to the amount of fifteen thou-
sand pounds, and on Wednesday last that national
testimonial was presented, at Blackwell, to the projector
of the Penny Postage. Immeasurably disproportioned
as is this subscription when compared with the bene-
fits accruing from the system of communication for
which we are indebted to that gentleman, it is never-
theless gratifying to find the English people coming
forward to acknowledge their obligations to
his exertions, and by so doing virtually to
discountenance the blundering and ungracious pro-
ceeding of the Post-office authorities. It must be
remembered, moreover, that the tribute in this case is
not for some probable or specious advantage,
not for any illusory hypothesis of good,
not for any pecuniary chimera ; the system has
been advanced and adopted, and ever since
the really memorable period of its adoption it has

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redounded more and more to the credit of its origi•
nator, it has justified his most sanguine predictions,
and while proving a source of inestimable advantage
to the public, has acted in no wise prejudicially to
the Exchequer. Before we can properly estimate the
merits of the Penny Postage scheme, we must behold in
it a power labouring for our improvement in three

separate directions : the scheme acting beneficently
upon our heads, our hearts, and our pockets. It
lightens the cost of correspondence to a marvellous

degree, it widens and deepens the interchange

of sympathies from one extremity of the kingdom
to the cther, and it has aroused to an

epistolary intercourse hundreds who would otherwise

continue unlearned in pencraft, and torpid in the

communication of thought. We maintain again,
that through the Penny Postage system we shall ex-

perience a material advancement as a think.
ing people, a domestic people, and a mer•

LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE 90, 1846.

causin the adoption of
cantiie people. In g
this inimitable plan Mr. ROWLAND HILL has shown
himself the promoter of brotherly love amongst his
few 1111°o:re-
rtneetne,r ht
he
eh a; ai aided inthe
Hermit
wae
the
Societyintellectual
for
r t
hcrusadefuion of Useful Knowledge, and he has established a
s..vsttna kindred in all material respects with the
spirit of those great commercial measures which are
I)ohis t,
antreto:ii7l, y_
in,,Parliament.GL
'Grand,
Il aln)
e nb:
oustedeo
nr
presenter) achievingfrem
we this,ffibsanctioned
d
with a national testimonial in Lovegrove's Tavern, at
jjlackvt all. IVill Government never tire of receiving
lessons in justice, in liberality, and in gratitude from
the people ?

The spirit of antagonism marks every step of the
onward movement of the Corn Bill io the Upper
House. Whenever a grand illumination is advertised
0 induce the public to resort to any place of
entertainment, the great display of the pyrotechnic
art is generally reserved to the last. The Pro-
teetionist Peers have reversed this order of tactics—
all their fireworks were blazed off upon the second
reading of the Bill. Lord STANLEY was their "feu
de joie." Perhaps they miscalculated the strength of
their resources. It is clear they have exhausted
themselves ; they have no new materiel at command.
If they send up a rocket now and then, it as
much as they can do. The battle kept up between
the Monopolists and Alinisterialists reminds us of
What many naturalists and travellers relate of the con-
tests they have witnessed between certain birds called
" boobies" and others called " men-of-war frigates."
The latter waylay the former whilst repairing to
their nests with the fish they have caught for their
young, and, by repeated blows on their back, compel
them to disgorge their predatory spoil, which is never
done without the utterance of a scream. In the same way the advocates of free trade in the Lords •

the point of the construction of the South Wales
Rail way on tha broad gauge, as originally sanctioned
by Parliament. Indeed, the House practically
adopted it on Tuesday night, in adding to the first
resolution the words—" and South Wales
Railway," in order that short lines ensanating
from the South Wales line might be constructed on
the broad gauge. This, however, was the only one
of the resolutions on which a division was taken,
when it was carried by a majority of 53. The last
resolution applied to the formation of a double line
of rails, thus having the broad and the narrow
gauge existing on the same railway. The companies

IThe latest accounts from Rome are of the Bth '
June ; at that date the city was perfectly &an.
gun. The Censlitutionnel publishes the following
account of the last moments of GREGORY XVI. : -
" On Whit-Sunday the Pontiff determined to have mass
said in his chamber, and to take the communion himself
This was opposed, and he was obliged almost to get angry:
in order to have his wish complied with; and if he had
i not done so, he would have died without the sacrament.
His valet-de-chambre said to him, ' But, Holy Father,
you will alarm the whole city; they will say that you are
very ill." Certainly,' replied he, ' I am very ill. I
feel it; and do you want me to appear before God with-
out having taken the bread of lite? Io voglio rnorire
do frate, non da savrano.' (I wish to dip as a monk, and
not as a sovereign). The malady made such rapid progress
the following night that the Cardinal Confessor, whose fluty

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY MORNING, JitTNE 1846.

it is to assist dying Pontiffs, could not be summoned in time ;
it was the assistant-cure of the pontificial palace who gave
extreme unction to the Pope, the curs not having arrived.
Gregory XVI. had expired when Cardinal Bianchi, his con-
fessor, entered his chamber. The other ecclesiastics, who
were summoned according to custom, had only to watch over
the mortal remains of their master. The Pope expired in
the arms of Cardinal Larnbruschini, who had hurried up with
all the speed of his horses, and who assisted him in his last
moments with the tenderness of a friend and a son."

NEW ZEA LAND.

END OF THE WAR, AND PRO-
CLAMATION OF PEACE.
(From the roes.)
The following important intelligence is extracted from the
Launceston Examiner of the 28th of February :
The " war" is at an end, and a general amnesty has been
proclaimed. This intelligence has been received by the
Water Lily at Hobart Town. We subjoin a summary, prin-
cipally from the New Zealander :
It appears that on the Ist of January the British forces
established themselves in a strong stockade, about 400 yards
from the pah of Kawiti, and in which were mounted two
32-pounders, and four small si-inch mortars.
Ou the 2d, Kawiti made a sortie from his pall, for the
purpose of turning the flank of this stockade, and destroying
it before it was finished; but Nene and our allies drove them
back, killing four and wounding several of the enemy.
On Saturday, the 10th, all the batteries being completed,
a general fire was commenced for the purpose of erecting a
breach, and rockets were likewise discharged, in order to
annoy the enemy within the pah. Towards evening three
breaches were made. An assault was then contemplated by
the commanding-officer, and 200 of the troops were told off
to lead the atlack. The chief Mohi Ta.wai remonstrated
with the commanding-officer, asserting that it would be
sacrificieg the lives of brave men to attempt the assault on
that evening; and that by continuing the breaching, the
object would be accomplished in a few days. The troops
were then ordered back to the camp.
On the following morning, Sunday, the 11th, about twelve
of Nerve's natives, with 'William Waka, his brother, ap-
proached the breaches to reconnoitre, and not perceiving or
hearing any natives within the outer stockades of the pah,
they entered, and, as soon as they found they were unop-
posed, conveyed signal to our forces in the batteries, when
the sailors and troops rushed forward into the pah, before
Kawiti's natives, who were outside the pah engaged at their
karakia (worship), could re-enter. As soon as they ascer-
tained that they had thus, by negligence, lost possession of
their stronghold, they commenced a heavy fire on our troops
from the woods, and from the back part of the pah; but the
numerical strength of the European forces and native
allies, in addition to the protection afforded by the internal
defences of the pall, rendered all attempts unavailing; and
after continuing the fire, in order to carry off their killed and
wounded, the natives retired into the woods to a pah, about
three miles distant, recently erected by Heki (who joined
Kawiti) as a place of refuge for Kawiti, in case he should be
expelled from Ruapekapeka.
The loss of the European forces was 12 killed, and of which
number 9 were seamen and marines, and 30 wounded, in-
clusiye of 17 seamen and marines. The native rebels suf-
fered a loss of 25 killed, as correctly as it could be as-
certained.
Within the pah no ammunition or provisions were found.
The former bad been divided among them on Saturday even-
ing, anticipating the attack; and they had been subsisting
on fern root alone for some time previously.
His Excellency Governor Grey was present during the
whole of the operations, and was eye-witness to the assault.
A proclamation had been issued by the Governor grant-
ing free pardons to all concerned in the late rebellion, the
chiefs having made complete submission by letter, through
Tomata Waka Nene.
We have received additional accounts from New Zealand
14 days later than the news brought by the Water Lily, from
which we learn that a pah, more strongly fortified than that
which had been lately stormed and to ken by the British
forces, had been purposely set on fire and d estroyed by Heki,
who had resolved to take to the bush, as affording better '
means of protracting the warfare than fortified places, which.
whatever the amount of resistance offered, must eventually
fall into the power of disciplined forces provided with artil-
ery.

L' And de la Religion publishes the following ac-
count of the testamentary bequestsof the late POPE :
° Pope Gregory XVI. has made two of his nephews his
residuary legatees, and appointed Cardinal Matei his execu-
tor. The Pontiff has left several legacies to the Propaganda,
the convent of St. Gregory, the monks of the Camaldules,
and some of his household. The fortune which he has left
has been greatly exaggerated. A more just idea of it may
be formed when it is considered that the civil list of the
popedom does not amount to more than 80,000 f. a year. A
rich library, some valuable paintings, jewellery, and works
of art, with other property of unimportant amount, form
the whole of the inheritance left for his nephews in the Ve-
netian States, instead of the trillions at which it has been
estimated."

A letter from Ostrowo, in Poland, states thit on
Whit-Monday a number of persons collected in the
market-place of Miloslaw, and two of them, with the
purpose of creating a disturbance, proceeded to the
church, and rang the tocsin, which increased the
crowd. The burgomaster not having any troops at
his command, and finding himself unable to restore
order, sent off to Wreschen for aid, and the next
morning a squadron of hussars arrived. Several
persons were arrested and removed to Wresehen.

Madrid papers of the 6th have been received ; their
Portuguese news has been anticipated by the steamer
which arrived the day before yesterday, and their
contents are utterly devoid of interest.

We have received the Paris papers or Wednesday.
The estimates were passed on Tuesday in the Cham-
ber of Deputies by a majority of 210 to 27, after an in-
effectual attempt on the partof the Legitimatist -Mem-
bers to draw out M. Guizoz on the affairs of Syria. Both
Chambers sat on Wednesday, hut their proceedings
were uninteresting. The Deputies assemble for the
last time on Saturday. The Peers will sit a short
time longer to dispose of the various Bills sent up to
them from the Deputies.

"It is on the occasion of the credit of the fetes
of July," says the Constitutionnel, "that the Prince DE
MoSKowA is to speak in the Chamber of Peers, rela-
tive to the incident in the deliberation respecting the
verdict upon LECOMTE."

The papers contain accounts of the brilliant fetes
given at Brussels and Lille on the opening of the
Northern Railway. The Princes returned to Paris
from Brussels by rail in twelve hours, and the fetes
passed off without the slightest accident.
The courier du Havre says that all the American
ships in that port hoisted their flags on the arrival of
the news of General TAYLOR'S victory. It adds :
" Our underwriters seem to be so little alarmed by
the risk the American ships have to run from the war,
that the premiums are tending to fall down to the
ordinary rate."
COORS AUTHENTIQUE.—PARIS, JUNE 17.—Fite p<r Cents.,
120 f. 'Sc. 20c ; Four per Cents., 106 f. 25c. ; Three per Cents.,
83f. sc. 82f. 95c.; Bank Actions, 3,490 f.; Belgian Five per
Cents., 1840,1001!, ; Ditto, Two-and-a-Half per Cents, 5614;
Ditto, Bank, 1835, 880 f. ; Spanish Actives, 31; Ditto, Three
per Cents., 38; Itente de Naples, 102 f. 65c. Exchange on
London, one month, paper, 25f. 60c.; Money, 25f. 60c.;
three months, money, 25f. 421/2e.
BUSINESS DONE IN FOREIGN RAILWAYS AT THE
LONDON STOCK EXCHANGE, JUNE 18.
Barbadoes, %—Boulogne and Amiens, 11 —Dutch Rhenish, 7N
—East Indian, 34—Italian and Austrian, 1% —Louvain and Jemappe,
1% ex d.—Luxembourg, 2—Northern of France Contituted, 1414
Paris and Lyons Constituted, 614 —Paris and Strasbourg Constituted,
4%—Sambre and _Meuse, 4 % ours and Nantes Constitutei, 534

MONEY and COMMERCIAL NEWS.
(From The Sun of Last Night.)
There was not much demand for Cotton at Liverpool yes-.
terday. Sales about 4,000 bales, at previous rates. Shares
were dull.
There are numerous letters in town this morning from all
the West India Islands, brought by the Forth steamer,
and their contents are in full confirmation of the statements
made in the journals of the Colonies, as to the continued ex-
istence of severe and long continued droughts. The sugar
plantations had been damaged in consequence to a great ex-
tent in all quarters. Still we are led to the conclusion,
from some of the letters that have reached us, that
the injury already done has been very greatly exaggerated,
and to such a truly " protectionist" pm-pose, namely, a sort
of ruse to be made use of when the Sugar Duties Bill is dis-
cussed, with the presumed intention of a section of the Legis-
lature to relax, if possible, the duty upon free grown
sugars, and to show that, great as are the ills to
which the planters are subjected by reason of un-
certain seasons, there may be a strong ground taken
up, why Parliament should not by relaxation of duties, com-
pel the West India proprietors to accept other changes, the
result of which they assert with earnestness, " they know
not of." The statements of the Chancellor f the Exche-
quer last night in the House of Commons, that he would ask
the continuance of the present duties for a month after the
expiry of the present law, is not thought much of
here. as the intention evidently is to give breathing
time after the Irish Life Preservation Bill has been advanced
or rejected, for a fair debate upon the Sugar question, now
yearly becoming of more and more mercantile importance.
At Demerara, there had been further arrivals of Coolies, and
the reports state that they did their field work very well in-
deed, especially where the lighter duties of the plantation
were required. There are no later accounts by the Forth
steamer from Mexico.
In the Consol Market the changes have been slight to-
day, and business very limited indeed. The quotations looked
rather heavy, Consols for the opening having just been
done at 95 ; the Three-per- Cents. Reduced, at the same value,
while the Three-and-a-Quarter-per- Cents. dropped from 97
to 9634. A very low Egure has been marked for Ex-
chequer-bills—say Bs. The last price yesterday was 16s.
premium. It is said that there save been many sales on
account of the Bank of England and the Accountant-General.
Bank Stock advanced about 1 per cent.
A considerable amount of busine-s has been done in the
Portuguese Bonds today at irices from 40i to 50i, showing
a downward tendency as compared with yesterday's
prices. It is the opinion of many here that
the accounts from Lisbon are very much gar-
bled to suit stock-jobbing operations. The public
ought, therefore, to be shy in risking their cash in time bar-
gains. The present price is 50 for Account. Old Spanish
Bonds are at 24, and the Three per Cents. at 37%. Mexican
Deferred are called 16%. Brazil Bonds have risen from
80! to 82.
Ihe Railway investments have not been in general de-
mand this morning. A few of the scrip have advanced.
BRITISH FUNDS. ONE CLOSING
O'CLOCK. PRICES.
131
Threenk2o6l4
95
New Three-and-a-Quarter per Cent. Anna. 97 9GA % 9G.%
Long Annuities, Expire -Jan. 1860 10 3-16
Stock 206
Reduced. Annuities. 2g1i14 95
101',
Ditto, 30 years, Oct. 10, 1859 .. 10 10
Consols for Opening .. .• •• • . 951 95 95 Exchequer Bills. INd. 11.0.
1,0001... .• l2 8 pm,
5001. ,•
„... 11 12 8 pm. 12
Ditto. Small - - 13 8 __pm, 8
ONE CLOSING
O'CLOCK. PRICES,

COURT CIRCULAR.
Their Royal Highness the Duke and Duchess of Saxe
Cobourg and Gotha, his Serene Highness Duke Ferdinand of
Saxe Cobourg and Gotha, Count A. Mensdorff, and Count-
Alexander Mensdorff, arrived at Buckingham Palace, at
half-past ten o'clock on Thursday night from Portugal.
Mademoiselle Tummel was in waiting on the Duchess of
Saxe Cobourg, and Baron de Wangenheini (Chambellan),
and Baron von Fritsch were in waiting on the Duke of Saxe
Cobmurgh and Gotha. The Hon. Captain Gordon, Equerry
to Prince Albert, received the illustrious visitors on their
landing from the Government steam-packet, and attended
them to town.

Yesterday morning her Royal Highness the Duchess of
Kent arrived at Buckingham Palace to visit her Majesty and
her Royal Consort, and her illustrious relatives.
The Queen and Prince Albert, accoyopanied by their Royal
Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Saxe Coburg and
Gotha, left Buckingham Palace at a quarter before three
o'clock yesterday afternoon in a carriage and four, escorted
by a party of Hussars, for the Nine Elms terminus of the
South-Western Railway. The royal party followed in four
carriages and four, and consisted of their Royal Highnesses
the Prince of Wales, Prince Alfred, the Princess Royal, the
Princess Alice, and the infant Princess, the Countess of
Desart (Lady in Waiting), the Dowager Lady Lyttelton
Mademoiselle Tummel, the Master of the Household, and
Major-General Wemyss (Equerry in Waiting). Her Ma-
jesty and her Royal Consort were attended to their carriage
by the Hon. Misses Stanley and Dawson (Maids of Honour),
the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the
Horse, the Groom of the Stole (to Prince Albert), the Vice-
Chamberlain, Lord Glenlyon, Sir Henry Wheatley, Captain
Meynell, Sir James Clark, and Colonel Bonverie.
The august party proceeded from the railway terminus by
a special train to Gosport en route to Osborne House, Isle of
Wight.
The Duchess of Kent took a carriage drive yesterday, ac-
companied by the Duke Ferdinand of Saxe Cobourg and
Gotha.
Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent and his Serene
Highness Duke Ferdinand of Saxe Cobourg and Gotha, ac-
companied by the Counts Mensdorff, honoured the perform-
ance of the French plays with their presence yesterday
evening.
Mr. W. Burrell had an interview with the Earl of Dal-
housie yesterday, at the office of the Board of Trade.
The Metropolitan Improvement Commissioners had a
meeting on Thursday, at the office in Whitehall-place. The
Commissioners present were Viscount Canning, Sir Charles
Lemon, Mr. 11. T. Hope, the Hon. C. A. Gore, and Mr.
Milne.

Dispatches were received yesterday at the Colonial-office,
from the Governors of Jamaica, and also from the Governors
of the other West India Colonies,
The Marquis of Chandus had an interview with Sir George
Clerk yesterday, at the office of the Board of Trade.
The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council sat yester-
day, and resumed the hearing of the Vasareelely case from
Madras. Mr. Wigram, Queen's Counsel, and Mr. Lloyd
were heard. Their Lordship's adjourned the appeal until
the 30:h inst. The Lords present were, the Lord President,
the Master of the Rolls, the Chancellor of the Duchy of
Cornwall, and the Judge of the Admiralty Court.

DRURY-LANE THEATRE.
The favourite ballet of The Devil to Pay was revived last
evening for the purpose of giving the patrons of this theatre
an opportunity of seeing Carlotta Grisi in her original cha-
racter of Mazourka, the Basket-maker's wife. Having seen
her in it, we are not surprised at the furore which she created
in Paris during the whole of the last winter. Her acting is
the most espieyle imaginable—witness the basket-making
scene in the first and the dressing-rcom scene in the second
act; and as for her dancing, who shall describe the wonders
of the pas des femmes, in which it is almost impossible for
the eve to fellow the rapidity of her twinkling feet, which
move with a more than Elsslerique rapidity and neatness; or
the Mazourka pas suel in the second act, commencing with a
serie.,, of gaucheries most fascinating for their coquettishness,
and ending with a series of bounding steps, which astonish
by their force and delight by their grace, or the concluding
pas de deux with Silvain, the great triumph of the ballet.
Each of these was a perfect triumph, and each drew down
the enthusiastic applause of the audience. She was ad-
mirably supported by lladlle. Louisa, Madame Giubilei, Les
Scours St. Looin, Mr. W. H. Payne, and Mr. Wieland, whose
dancing master was the very beau ideal of the grotesque.
WNW

FOREIGN FUNDS.
Brazilian Bonds, 5 per Cent ..
Ditto, New Bonds, 1829 and 1839 .. 80% 82
Buenos Ayres Bonds, 6 per Cent ..
Mexican Bonds, 1837, 5 per Cent
Ditto, Deferred
.. • • • • 10% 16%
Peruvian Bonds, 6 per Cent. .
374
Portuguese Four per Cent • . 50% 50% Ditto, for the Account .. .• .. 50% 49% 50% 50 49 Russian Bonds .. ••• .. 110% 109%
Spanish Bonds, 5 per Cent
.. 24 24 Ditto, Three per Cent .. •• .. 37% 37%
Ditto, for the Account
%
Dividends on the above payable in London. 87
PRICES OF BUSINESS
cLosurGl RAILWAY SHARES. PAID. DONE AT
Boston, Stamford, & Birmingham.. 22s ONE O'CLOCK. PRICE.
Bristol • • •
Bristol and Exeter
.. •• '75 84- • •• •
..
Ditto New . • .. 5.... 10 ........ •
Caledonian
.. 10 .... 10% ••• 10%
Churnet and Blythe .. .
2 .• • • I 14• • • •
Derby and Crews .. 2% .... •. ... 6%
Direct Manchester (Remington's) 2% .• •• ...... •• • •
Direst Manchester(Ra.strick's) • b%•••• 43,79•••••••• 3%
Direct Northern .. .... 1% iS •••• • • • • Dublin and Galway _ •.. 4 .... •••• • 2%
Eastern Counties 141. 165..... 24% %
Ditto New .. 10/. 165....• p • 7% p
Do. Perpet., 5 per Cent. No. 1.61. 13s. 4d. %p„ • • p
Ditto, York Extension .. • • 10s• •• • • 1% *s% ••• • • •
Eastern Union• •
25 ..........
Do. Ipswich 8s Bury StEdmunds 9 8% .
East Lincolnshire • • .... 1........ 1
gs
Edinburgh and Glasgow .. 50 .... ...• ••• • • •
Ditto % Shares .. .. • lO .... 17% .• . 17%
Exeter, Yeovil, and,Dorchester .. 2%.... 21% ....
Goole, Doncast., and zqaeflield,Scc. 425. di5..... • • %
its
Great Western .. ▪ .. ..
....
85 .. ......
Ditto Half Shares 50 .... 81% 81
Ditto, Quarter Shares S .... 16% ......
Ditto, Fifths .. • • 2O .... 32% .....
London an Birmingham . • • 100 226 227. •
Ditto Quarters e. 2 .... 23
Ditto Fifths .• • 2 .... 24%
London and Black wall .. 161. 13s. 4d.
Ditto, Extension .. • • ..,
London and Brighton .• 50 .. . 65% 65 •.•
London and Croydon .. 13/. 15s 9d..• 22% .
London and South-Western .. 41/. 6s. 10d... 79 78%
Ditto, New .. .• 17% .... 28%
London and York .. .. • • . ...• 1% 2
London, Salisbury, and Yeovil .. 2%
.....
Manchester and Leeds .. .. • • 82 ..
Ditto Extension .. 425. 2% % p
Manchester and Birmingham .. 40 .
Ditto, Quarter Shares (B) • • 4 . ......
.... 13%
Manchester, Buxton, & Matlock 425. ... p........
Manchester and Southampton .• 2
Midland • • • • • • 105 ••• • • • •.. ..
Ditto, New .. • lB .. • • 31%
Newcastle and Darlington Junct. 25 .... .. •
..
Ditto, New
Ditto, New, Brandliug
.. • .
25
Norfolk .. .. • • • • .. 20 ... 25 ........
Ditto, Half Shares ..
.. 5 . . 7% _
North British.. ~ •• • • 22% 29%
Ditto, Halt Shares .. • • • 8%
North Devon .. .. ••.. 2 •••• ••• ••••••
North Kent and Direct Dover .. 2%
North Staffordshire .. • • • • 425. . • 3%%• p......
Portsmouth Direct • • • • • • 3% •. • •
• • 3%,
Scottish Central .. .. • .. 10 .... 15% . .
. ..
Shrewsbury and Birmingham ..
.... 2%
Soath Midland .. • • • . 425. die....
South Eastern and Dovor .. • • 33%
Ho., New (do. 151.) .. No. 4. 234., ~ %•••• •• • •
S'aines and Richmond .. I .... % ••• • • •
south Wales .. ••••••5• • • • 1 • • • • .7. • • Waterford and Kilkenny .. .. 8.. • • ••••• ••• • •
West Riding Union 4.25..... P..
Witlaeach and 5 Ives .. .. • ' 2 • •. .
.....
York aud North Midland. .. • • 80 • • •• _ ••
•
Date., Half Shares . • • • • • 25 • •
11%
• • •
Do. E. and W. Riding Exten.. • 1
FOREIGN RAILWAY:.
Boulogne and Amiens 2
Hord., Toul., & Cate l3l..c"euz 2 .... I 'NI ••••• • • • •
Ditto, ditto (Espelete) 2 %
Central of Spain • • • • ' • 4 •••• ••••..••.
Luxembourg
Madrid and Valentin .. .2 2 5 6
Parts and Lyons Constituted
MINES.

ARRIVAL OF IBRA Will PACHA
AT MANCHESTER.
MANCHESTER, THU RSDAY.—ilis Highness Ibrahim Pacha
arrived in this town by the express train from Birmingham,
at about eleven o'clock last evening. He rode in the state
carriage usually appropriated to the.QueenDowager, and accom-
panied by the members of his suite. There was a large as-
semblage of people at the station, who were much gratified
with the appearance of the illustrious foreigner.
As the arrival of his highness had been anticipated, a
smite of apartments was engaged for his accommodation at
the Queen's Hotel, and the party were at once taken there,
but his Highness stated that he should not remain there, and
the whole party at once set off for the Royal Hotel, where
they now remain. It is understood that the reason why
Ibrahim Pacha quitted the Queen's Hotel was, that the apart-
ments were not all on the same floor.
At an early hour this morning his Highness arose, and
was seen leisurely puffing his meerschaum in the delightful
wa!k in front of the Royal Infirmary, where he remained
some time. His appearance attracted general attention,
and he seemed in no way annoyed by the crowd of persons
who were gazing at. him.
At about ten o'clock the Mayor of Manchester, Mr. B.
Watkins, had the honour of an Yintroduction to the Pacha,
and a carriage and four having been provided, his worship
and Ibrahim Paella proceeded to the extensive machine
works of Messrs. Fairbairn and Co., where he appeared much
gratified with the stupendous nature of the machinery. After
remaining for some time the party returned to the Royal
Hotel, whence, at one o'clock, they proceeded to the works of
Messrs. Sharp, Brothers, the mill of Messrs. Birley and Co.,
and several other places of interest.
We have not at present heard what stay the Pacha in-
tends to make in this town, but to-morrow morning he will
be entertained at a public breakfast by the Mayor, at the
Town-hall.

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32%
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rOREIGN POULTRY.—Yesterday Leadenhali-mark( t
presented a very Interesting appearance from the quantity of foreign
poultry offered for sale ; a speculation which, from the prices they
malised, is likely to turn out very successful.
THE OLDEST SuVEREIGN IN EITRoPE.—In conse-
quence of the death of the Pope, the oldest Sovereign in Europe is
113SY Ernest Augustus, King of HaPover, born ,Tune 5, 1771. The
next in au is the King of the French, born October 5,1773.
The Oddfellows are, perhaps, the most numerous and
important body enrolle,l together for mutual assurance in Great
Britain. On the Ist of January, IS4 i, tl.ey had 3,884 lodges in 886
districts, and their members numbered 259,374.
MR. BUNN.—We regret to learn that the director of
Drury-lane Theatre is seriously indisposed, and that on Thursday
afternoon he was considered to be in gnat danger.
ROBBERY BY POLICEMEN.—A t the High Court of
Justiciary, Edinburgh, en Monday last, John Kane and James Mit-
chell, late constables in the police establishment, were charged wilk!
breaking into the Total Abstinence Society, in Adam-square, when
guiltgu guilty,"
uaytt it'
on night duty, and stealikg therefrom the society's box, contaitng
lengthenedlist them,
books, sc,aseea tracts, rtaoctst;la&l c; . ,
hTchne, parlitseornaers pleaded
ot"Yits °ILI buto'litnesses, the Charge wa., itilly established aga '
years 11 to ten
and they were sentenced, lEane to fourteen, and Mitche
tratlPOrtittien,

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AOF THE HON. MISS CAROLINE MONTA N‘.DhEavellito announce the demise of this lady •; she died at Ditton
7E.—
Park,rg the seat of Lady Montague, on Tuesday, in her 38th year.
She was third daughter of the late Lord Montague and sister to the
Countess of Home, the Hon. Mrs. tredaksk clinten, and the Mon.
Mrs. Georg. W. Ham

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