The Sun.
London, England, 1833-07-27 00:00:00

IRISH ASSIZES.

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Count
Th KILKENNY, JuLr 21.
hca, The y Court was this morning crowded to excess
.tos
for tl;‘:‘ t"all
or the murderers. The first called upon
lucid(
"well, Turi-ter " Edraond Joyce, at his residence in til -
patricnic
nth,eo.South West part of this county.
she for
edanads J
tio,hen Murphy werehaiviliancgedinuartdethreedbtahre,
said
a.;
principal, with
~,k,
after having' 40y5e oil the night of the - of December last,
oar set fire to his house and premises • and Murphy
i'reviously con.
tDired
n' to the said murder, he haviln
that PUrpo4seagreed with Burns and severa ogtllier persons for
th,The followi
is atr _ tig are the outlines of the events connected with
13Yrne
a°,,e1,°128 case, as deposed to by two accodmplices (Ja
t'esse,,,,':_o Patrick Fowler), and corroborate bly othir wit_
On s °ese evidence was not in the least impeached .
'NI th,LthtlaY evening, the 23d of December last,
cap,' '' other personsagreed to go from Graigne to a place
the prisoners
ro, Altilth.
pi; other
rn-un, about a mile from Joyce's,
Grove,2l and
~_._en.... These nine had otfinclyienatlyblimideerdb2u,sss,a(atieidd
t„o"fuotrtahinking themselves sit
prat °f Akilethanu
ont h e r
This party
not coming, however, they
:141' ..'clefti,.,t,° the hou.se of ppearrsoyn named Mackessy, of whom
'ltoagb-‘,ll4heed fire-arms, burnt: his haggard, and shot him
htl'i l'ae from e thigh ;he was confined four or five months . eted b that wound, which was proved to have been
tihn-,
oollse
01 theprisoner Burns. The party then proceeded tofire
atlas a a n named Donnelly, from whom they obtained
,h-
-that " gi)
thee, he di,‘.
_Powder, and frightened the man
.himself so much
t„'Y de died tett days after. Being then provided with what
e the imhe'l mitteient arms they detached three of their party
I,Ne -,,",e of one Dalton' to keep guard, and prevent an
v;aptit°o-4'e4rrP rise, while the remainder went to murder Joyce.
had'Pros, . John Murphy was of this party. Dalton, it appeared,
12,0,,,,tthed for the same reason that his neighbour (Joyce)
t6e,,Cllt'PiecTlTsyt___olely, having some acres of land that had been
Boat i and itwo of the ruffians who now. planned their destruc-
jn_.ed that , aPPeared from the evidence, that his life was
~ne, we, 'tight, Merely because his enemies, after murdtneriancg.
4)41144 ale, ,t'rid to delay long enough in the place
wewhen
thietheir designs.
howevere in bed_ iirea_ter Party arrived at Joyce's he and his family
the
, being about one o'clock at night. They were,
Isue ell 'apprize d of their coming by the barking of a dog, and
4::erze.srtooff the mhmouursdee,rerstfoir.J.o Joyce. The latter lay in the
Liately went up to the loft,
he I v 'S
servant
I•ll,4°Yee)
__ an lay, and bid him open the door, and say
o,"latis, iL as. not at home. The servant did so, and the
„"e loft "zediately on entering the house, fired a shot int,o.
joeath. ' Which is supposed to have been the cause of Joyce
teed i s. Joyce and the remaining part of the familyb ( wereon '
the 1 oto one
of the out-offices, and flax that had bees,
L*se o%ili'Where Joyce himself lay wounded being set on fire, lie
'istuis Red to come down. He was then seen bleeding. Two
t- ha were
sna ed at him, but missed fire. e s pith tedt
~'D buys life pspPared, and promised to quit the farm the nex
.'eti'd -"t his entreaties were disregarded. His body was
heti, the following morning, by his own father,
2ft - th
,4 4 d, he fatal news had brought, at an early hour,
bout ",tatice of four or five miles. It lay in a stubble field
thr, W) v.
1., '' %,,,,,' 441 S from the dwelling-house. There was a gun-
fte eatothd in the lower part of the belly, proved to have been
;4ettire: 0f his death and his head and hip were much
'hi,
Treats's The old man described the finding of the body in
, ,
wen
~ eriso„
f4,_4tess,,-ers appear to be both young men. Murphy was
good''oera •,:". and apparently belonging to the better class of
,„ elt' thiS eoUntr His character appears to have been
vtosee,v: this charge, as admitted by witnesses for the
Til, ;°'•
'Mich tev• 14•
the . the
„,,,harm Doyle, parish priest of the district in
a 64,4. $e occurred had been summoned to attend
elraeter Wa' ealled b 'defendant's counsel to give them
).1 held tlaY Oh -:ce eanle fromy the barrister's box, in which he
4ileclper eletietTheiroahle, and addressed the
oust
be.o saying
hee, setis of self, and was most anx ring rogues
1)„, tittl,„,,,_ uad character to punishment. That having
,:' *44,, on to attend on the present occasion, he did so ;
‘,ale„.. •-,, with
__ .
~e eonsi_, i!errnission of the Court, to decline giving
co,, Cana, „4etolg the situation in which he stood.
Nei, ~,, -.Aitox referred it to the iscretion of defendant's
t. to ".letlier the •
thou, regard
~ they examined, im. They ought, he
,x 4,
.c1eN1,4,_,,,ne delicacy of his situation as a Roman Ca-
tone'4l4atio,,, :, all.d the unpleasant ordeal to which a cross-
afie_r!..roight 21P_Posing his testimony favourable to the pri-
urn, 11 °I-Miect hitn as to .matters disclosed—sub sigillJ
otoTh_e, .10,,,:fta..,..11.0vt exa,mined. ' soviit:oorki bot 7
priseornYelrusreGtn.ous charge and recital of evi-
t' he exel'eoeef death was immediately passed. Patrick Butrinies
e'teetitione ted °II Friday next; but no day was fixedfor
This trZ j"n Murphy.
1.1,
~,,. ceu..................................................Pied the greater part of the day.
4ttlinue ViCerOy of
Ite ,
, g
con Egypt is said to be about
loncion to Continue negotiitions
tl, 4:at:lop-in. aegn-ecnetd troelative to the proposed completion of
hkz• ir ot connecting the Nil •
4,,tlttittri %,;".!,
si:4 also reresented as contempliting various
e with the Red Sea at
tidedur:
_a
.indicative . conviction that he had
of his
i sting Peace wall the Porte.

LONDON,
SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 27, 1833.

CAPTURE OF LISBON.

It was confidently reported in the City at two
o'clock that an extraordinary express has arrived in
town from Lisbon. Admiral NAPIER, it appears,
crossed the bar on the 16th, and comniericed a grand
attack on Belem Castle the next morning, which
surrendered after a short engagement. Forts St.
Julian and Bugio, after a few shots, also delivered
themselves up to the hero of Cape St. Vin-
cent, and were immediately taken possession of by
►he English Marines in the name of Queen Donna
MARIA. An attack had not been made on the city
when the despatches left; all was in the greatest
state of confusion, as the Constitutional troops were
hourly expected, and there was no force in the ca-
pital to oppose them.

This news has created a great sensation in the
city, as it was looked to with much anxiety.
There is nothing from Oporto this morning. Had
that city been taken by storm, as the Miguel ite
Journals pretend, despatches would have been re-
ceived before this by Chevalier de Lust and Go-
vernment.

The anxiety which was felt by some yesterday
evening upon the subject of the result of the amend-
ment proposed by the Archbishop of CANTERBURY
on Thursday night, and carried against Ministers
by a majority of two, was relieved by the declara-
tion made by Lord GREY. It will be seen that his
Lordship stated that, although he was far from
considering the alteration made by the R;ght Rev.
Prelate an improvement, he did not think it such
an encroachment on the princ:ples of the Bill as to
justify him in abandoning the duty he had undertaken.
He at the same time emphatically added—" I must
again state to your Lordships most distinctly that if
the principle of the clause had been infringed upon,
there would have been an end of proceeding further."
In order that the House might he under no mis-
take as to the way in which Ministers felt the con-
duct of the Opposition, and the danger that would
attend their perseverance in it, Lord GREY said—
" But at the same time, as I have already stated, I
shall not disguise from your Lordships that, in con-
sequence of that decision to which your Lordships
came, his Majesty's Government has been placed in
an embarrassing situation ; and certainly if further
alterations of the same nature shall be made in this
Bill, then it will be for me to determine how far it
wilt be consistent with my duty to persevere in the
progress of this Bill." We are glad that his Ma-
jesty's Ministers have come to the determination
they have, for certainly we would not put their re-
tention of place against the alteration made in the
117th clause by the Tory party; but surely what
every day takes place must convince them of the
truth we endeavoured yesterday to urge upon them,
that the House of Lords must have an infusion of
liberal Peers. It is absurd to suppose that any Mi-
nistry, seeking the advantage of the people, can
stand secure, whilst the majority of the House of
Lords consists of me❑ who were placed there on
the very score of their being supporters of Admi-
nistrations which consulted the advantage of friends
and connections before that of the people.

The order of the House of Commons last night,
for calling to the bar of the House the proprietors
and publishers of the Times newspaper, appears to
us the most unaccountable proceeding ever adopted
by any deliberative assembly. In whatever light
we view it, the course pursued is so totally at
variance with reason and common sense, that—and
out of charity to the Members who supported the

motion—we must conclude that they formed their
resolution without ascertaining the real nature of
the motion, or the circumstances which gave rise to
it. There are three alleged grounds for the pro-
ceedings—namely, that the speeches of Honourable
Members have been published, that Mr. O'CoNNELL's
speeches have not been published, and that the re-
porters of the Times have been guilty of a breach
of privilege in coming to a resolution on account of
what Mr. O'CONNELL said in the House. It is
really impossible to say which of these grounds is
the most trifling, or the least likely, to convince an
impartial and jealous public. Whatever may be
the technical forms of the House, every one knows
that the day is long gone by when any journalist
could be punished for publishing the debates of
Parliament. Though the standing order of the
House still remains, it is, for general purposes, a dead
letter, and it would be as possible to stem the tide as
to keep the public ignorant of the debates of
either House. The second ground is equally
untenable and absurd. Does any Member of
the House think that the House of Commons
can compel the editors of all the London pa.
pers to publish Mr:O'CoNNELL's speeches, or force
the reporters to report them,? Even though the
proprietors could prevail on the reporters to give fi
certain portion of his speeches, they have such a feel-
ing of disgust towards him on account of the wan-
ton and unjust attack made on the whole body that
the very dictates of human nature would prevent
them from doing him anything like justice. The
House has no right or power to say to the reporters
what they shall take, or what they shall not take, so
long as the gallery is open ; and even if they had the
power, any one who considers the matter must see
that they never could compel an unwilling body to
write, and in attempting it would only destroy their
dignity and character. The House, we believe, was
totally misled as to the last:ground of charge. The
reporters made not the slightest allusion to what
Mr. O'CONNELL said in the House, but simply to
the words used by him at the Cartwright dinner,
charging them with giving " designedly false"
reports. It is surely no breach of privilege to
allude to what a Member says out of the House,
and no violation of the law to come to a resolution
which is not a libel, fold which cannot, as far as
the Hon. Member is concerned, lead to a breach of
the peace. The truth is, the whole body of re-
porters have been charged with ignorance, incom-
petence, and wilful falsehood. They have, like
men of honour, resolved to resent, 'by passive re-
sistance, such an injurious and unfounded charge;
and should the House of Commons visit with any
punishment their course of proceeding, they will
soon find whether the public will side with the
strong or the weak. In our humble opinion, the
House will come to a -resolution which may lead to
some discussion on Monday, but it never can have
any practical result.

Having had some opportunities of judging of the
reports, both from attendance in the House, and
from the debates which we are obliged to peruse
every day, we can safely assert that the debates'on
any question of general interest are given with a
fidelity and correctness of language which no system
of reporting can improve. The leading men in the
House know this well, arid nothing but disap-
pointed vanity, or something worse, could lead any
man to deny it. We know that misrepresentations
have occasionally occurred, but these have been very
rarely wilful. Justice says, punish such unjusti-
fiable conduct, but do not punish the whole body,
who are as innocent as the Hon. Member who is
injured.

The East India Bill has at length passed the
House of Commons. The discussion upon the
third reading occupied six or seven hours last night.
Sir ROBERT INGLIS and others justly complained of
the smallness of the attendance of Members upon a
question which involved the interests of one hun-
dred millions of human beings. The largest divi-
sion took place early in the evening, upon the ques-
tion of whether the East India Company should be
heard against certain parts of the Bill--the too
great power given to the Attorney-General; the
appointment of two additional Bishops ; the
retention of Haylebury College, &c.—by coun-
sel. The numbers on this question were, for
the motion 30, against it 100. Afterwards, when
the distinct question was put, of whether Hayle_ bury College should be continued, the numbers had
dwindled down to 46 against the abolition, 20 for
for it. Now, had all the Reformers attended who
must agree in the principle of :abolishing Haylebury
College, and saving the East Indians the tax imposed
upon them for its support, there is no doubt that
Mr.C.WYNies proposition for its suppression would
have bees carried. It is rather strange to see a luke-
warm Reformer like Mr. NITYNN standing forward in
support of thegreat principles of economy and compe.
tition, and a Reforming Ministry acting against
them. What, however, gave us the most pleasure,
were the declarations made by Mr. POULETT
THOMSON, that lie hoped to see the day when East
India produce would be admitted without having a
discriminating tax imposed upon it. At present
our system of commerce in India is one of gross in.
justice and oppression ; for we compel the natives of
that country to receive our produce at no duty,
whilst we impose a high one upon theirs.

We stated some time ago that an attempt had
been made to form a Liberal Club, to consist of
Members of the House of Commons, and the object
of which was to give a degree of organization to the
Liberal party, which has been so much wanted for
the increase of its strength. The arrangements
for this club did not, we believe, extend beyond the
appearance of a prospectus, and two or three meet-
ings at the House of Mr. TENNYSON. It was
found impossible to reconcile the different shades of
opinion, and the plan dropped to the ground. Since
that time, another attempt has been made by a
Committee of Members of the House of Commons,
and failed, as we think it ought, for it was one of
the conditions of this plan that neither Mr. HUME,
Mr. O'CONNELL, Mr. HARVEY, or any other Mem-
ber of what the French call the extreme gauche,
was to be admitted into the club. Such a soi disant
Liberal Club as this would have been, had it
been possible for its projectors to have got it
up, could have been of little use to the
country, although it might have answered the
purpose of some speculating Liberals, who think
it their interest to embarrass Ministers without
looking to the national good. We now hear that a
proposal for the formation of a liberal club upon a
more broad and generous basis, has been brought
forward by some really independent Members of the
House of Commons, and that there is to be nothing
of exclusion on the ground of a difference of opinion
on minor points, so that the great point of Anti-
Toryism be agreed upon, and that in order to make
this club what it ought to be, in opposition to the
Carlton clique, all persons holding the_ rank and
character of gentlemen, and professing liberal senti-
ments, although not Members of the House of Com-
mons, will be admitted as members by ballot in the
usual way. Such an establishment as this would be
a formidable opponent to the Conservative Club;
but will it be possible to give it the degree of
influence, in the first instance, which is essen-
tial to numbers and success ? In this country
nothing is done without high-sounding names;
for whilst we boast of our liberal institutions, we
cling with a disgraceful fondness to aristocratic
charms. Will Earl GREY and Lord ALTHORP,
the Dukes of SUSSEX and DEVONSHIRE, and other
noblemen of high rank and character, set the exam-
ple of liberality which is desired by the projectors of
the club ? Will they consent to co-operate with
Mr. HUME and Mr. O'CONNELL in the work of
anti-conservativeness, or will they not rather fear
that they would increase the influen e of the ex-
treme liberal party by joining it in a general decla-
ration against the principles of Toryism ? We shall