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London, England, 1846-08-04 00:00:00

BATHS AND WASHHOUSES.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that in rising to
move the second reading of the Bill for the establish-
ment of public institutions for bathing and washing for
the poorer classes in the boroughs of England and
Wales, it would be necessary to offer a faw preliminary
observations. He was sure their Lordships would view
this subject in the same light as he viewed it, and con-
sider it entitled to considerable respect.—Gear, hear.)
He believed that if there was any one thing more demon-
strable than another, it was that the certain effect of
entertaining a self respect was to make per-
sons appear seemly before others, and that
habits were connected imperceptibly with moral efforts.
—(Hear, hear.) The truth of this proposition was,
he W 45 gssared, so sully admitted, that he thought it kUI-

necessary to trouble their Lordships with any further
observations on that head. There was one establish-
ment for the purpose of affording the means of cleanli-
ness, to those who were desirous of availing themselves
of that advantage, in London ; and there was another of
a similar character at Liverpool. Having made himself
acquainted with the circumstances of these institutions,
he telt himself justified in stating to their Lordships
that institutions such as were proposed by this Bill
were established, so that for lid. a-head the invaluable
advantages of bathing and washing would be offered to
the poorest person in the country. In Liverpool it was
known that where an expense of but 2,000/. or 3,0001.
was incurred, the actual profit was 3701. per annum, or
something like three and-a-half per cent. on the capital.
He thought that fact important, because it proved
that poor persons were ready to avail themselves of
these baths if they had the opportunity. All, there-
fore, that was sought by the present Bill, was to give a
stimulus to the feeling that induced the establishment
of these institutions, The object was not to extinguish,
these establishments which were now working benefi-
cially for the public, not to compel the vestry of every
parish to set up these baths, but to enable them, with
the consent of the Secretary of State, to establish these
baths with a certain rate of payment that would make
them acceptable to the poor, and remunerative to the
promoters.—(Hear, hear.) He did not know what par-
ticular baths had been alluded to by a Noble Lord op-
posite ; but if baths of this kind existed, it was not in-
tended to interfere with them. All that was desired
was to step in were private interest had not interfered.
In Glasgow-yard baths, it was ascertained that parties
used to walk three or four miles to obtain the benefit
of them.—(Hear, hear.) There would be a clause in
the Bill which would be of very material advantage,
namely, to allow parties to purchase the interests of the
institutions proposed to be established. There would
also be power, in cases similar to those which their
Lordships knew to exist, to transfer their power to
commissioners. He would conclude by moving the se-
cond reading of the Bill.
Lord BEAUM3NT said, it struck him that this was
a most desirable object, but that the machinery of the
Bill might lead to jobbing. He thought it might in-
dutie parties investing, by the patronage it would af-
ford them, to abuse their power in giving offices, and
cherging the same on the poor-rates. But the statement
of the Noble Alarquis, as to the consent of the Secre-
tary of State being required, removed these objections.
He alluded to the sth or 6th clause, by which baths were
to be erected for persons in the superior classes. The
check to which he had alluded would however prevent
any abuse whatever on that score, for as those persons
would contribute in proportion to the expenses, that
would give a security for the poor-rates which might
otherwise be done away with, and of course this there-
fore obviated the objection. Although, therefore, there
might be a small increase of the poor-rates, the benefits
arising from the Bill would more than counterbalance
the evil.

The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to
be committed to-morrow.
WELSH JUDGES.

Earl POWIS pr,sented a petition, signed by more
than 20,000 persons, praying that judges might be
appointed for the principality acquainted with the Welsh
language. If the objections, therefore, were not great,
or such as might be easily obviated, he trusted the
Government would take the matter into consideration,
and accede to the'prayer of the petition. -
The LORD CIIANCELLOR conceived that certainly
it would be of great advantage if the judges understood
the language chiefly spoken in Wales; but, as the judges
were all appointed atter having been barristers, the
difficulty would be to find gentlemen who understood the
language, but the possession of that faculty would always
be a recommendation to a candidate.
SMALL DEBTS BILL.
The House then went into Committee on this Bill,
when

The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the adoption
of the first clause, and stated in so doing, that it was
advisable to consolidate the authority on which the Sixty
Courts for the recovery of Small Debts now existed.
Some of them were of ancient tenure, but most of them
were erected under the authority of the late Acts of
Parliament. Doing this would render the selection of
persons to fill the office of judges in these courts, and
in those to be established, much more easy, and would
greatly facilitate the process of the courts.
The clause was then agreed to.
The 23d clause was then agreed to, whereby the salary
of the judges of the court is limited to 1,2001. per
annum.

The other clauses were then agreed to, and the EL
was ordered to be reported to-morrow (Tuesday).
NEWCASTLE AND CARLISLE RAILWAY.

Lord MONTEAG LE moved the postponement of the
third reading of the Newcastle and Carlisle Railway to
Friday next.—Agreed to.
The other Bills on their Lordships' table were then
advanced a stage, and the House adjourned.

HOUSE OF COIkIMOIVS, August 3.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Ten minutes before
Four o'clock.

Mr. 1). DUNDAS, the Solicitor-General, was introduced
by Lord Ebrington and Mr. Tufnell, and took the oaths
and his seat for Sutherland hire on his re-election.
ROYAL COMMISSION. _ _ _

At four o'clock Sir Augustus Clifford, the Usher of
the Black Rod, appeared at the table, and summoned
the House to the House of Peers, to hear the Royal
Assent given to 61 Bills), fir the titles of which see
Lords' report).
WISBECH, ST. IVES, AND CAMBRIDGE AMC-
: ..TIOW BAILWAY.
Mr. ALLIX moved the third reading of the Wisbech,
St. Ives, and Cambridge Junction Railway Bill.
Colonel PEEL opposed the motion. The Bill was
nothing better than an attempt, on the part of the East-
ern Counties Railway, to carry the traffic from Wisbech
and St. Ives over their line in preference to a far better
one. He trusted the House would not allow this without
further inquiry ; and to give an opportunity for that
taking place, he would move that the Bill be read a
third time that day three months.
Mr. ALLlX—Coniodering that this railway was most
essential to the interests of the people of Wisbech, St,.
Ives, and Cambridge, he was determined to persibt in his
motion. Wisbech was one of the largest corn markets
in the kingdom, and St. Ives, next to Smithfield,
was one of the greatest cattle markets in England; and
he hoped that the Hon. and Gallant Member for
Huntingdon would withdraw his opposition, because, if
it were successful, the people of that district would be
deprived for the period of nine months of the advan-
tages which this railway would confer upon them.
Mr. BINGEI AM BARING was convinced of the
necessity of this line. He had voted for it before, and
he was now also determined to give it his hearty sup-
port. ,He hoped that the House would support the
decision of the Committee on this Bill (of which he
had been chairman), by passing the Bill. Under all
the circumstances he trusted the House would allow the
Bill to pass in its present state.
Mr. B. DENISON denied that the London and York
Company, as a company, were opposed to this Bill.
Mr: GARDINER opposed the Bill.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, when there
appeared—
For the third reading
Against it
Majority for the third reading —34
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
The Yeovil Borough Estate Bill was read a second
time, and ordered to be committed.

The Metropolitan Sewage Manure Bill was read a
third time and passed.
The Stamford and Spalding Railway Bill was alSo
read a third time and passed.
On the motion of Mr. GROGAN, the amendments to
the Dublin Wide Streets Bill were agreed to, and the
Bill ordered to be engrossed.
Mr. CAVENDISH moved that the report from the
Committee on the Manchester and Lincoln Union Rail-
way and Chesterfield and Gainsborough Canal Bill be
taken into consideration to- morrow, provided the
amended breviate be laid upon the table, and the
amended points be deposited this day.—Agreed to.
On the motion of Mr. BROTRERTON, Lord Kin-
naird's Estate Bill was read a third time and passed.