The Sun.
London, England, 1848-04-07 00:00:00

CHARTIST DEMONSTRATION.

Sir J. WALSH wished to know from the Right Hon.
the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether
he had received any information with respect to a num-
ber of persons called Chartists intending to meet at Ken-
nington Common on Monday next, for the ostensible
purpose of forming a numerous procession to
move through the streets of the metropolis, and
presenting a petition to this House in favour of what
was called the six points of the Charter; and if the Go-
vernment had had its attention called to these circum-
stances, were they prepared to take those measures
which might bo necessary to secure the independence of
the House from being overawed by any meeting calcu-
lated to intimidate them, and likewise to aid in the pro-
tection of the peaceable and loyal people of London.
Sir G. GREY said—l now hold in my hand a notice,
which I believe was published yesterday, signed by three
individuals, one of whom declares himself the secretary,
I presume, of the Chartist Association, in which he
states that a Convention, consisting of forty-nine
delegates, will assemble in a particular place upon a
given day, and some following days, for the purpose
of superintending the presentation of a petition
to Parliament, and to advise the adoption of such other
course as they may think fit for the purpose of securing
the enactment of the People's Charter. A great metro-
politan demonstration will accompany the petition, and
persons are invited to attend at Kennington-common,
where the route of the procession would be prescribed.
The attention of the Government having been called to
this notice, and other information having reached me
respecting the intended proceedings upon Monday next,
the Government have directed a notice to be issued, which
they hope will be published in the course of half an hour,
pointing out that, by the statutes and the common law
of these realms, such procession is illegal, and warning
all loyal and peaceable subjects of her Majesty to abstain
from taking any part in the proceedings, and to give
their best aid in maintaining order and preventing any
breach of the peace that may ensue.--(Loud cheers.)

Mr. F. O'CONNOR said that the course pursued by
the Government would be taking the people utterly
by
surprise. There were several precedents in favour ot,
these processions. In the year 1831 a procession er
100,000 or 150,000 persons marched down to this Hong°
and presented a petition in favour of the Reform Bill'
In 1E34 a procession of 100,000 also marched down 1°
this House while it was sitting, and presented a peti"
tion in favour of the liberation of the Dorchester Is:
bourere. A large demonstration of sailors also walked
past this House a short time since. Those person!
who have put their names to the document referred
to by the Right Honourable Baronet, have this
day passed resolutions that every man wh°
joined the procession should be a special constable
1 himself, and they pledged themselves not only to prf
serve the peace, hut to take any man into custody loft
might attempt to violate the rights of property. "•'
was not the intention of the people to come
down to the door of the House, they were to ids!"
gone over Westminster• bridge. He had never in ill
life attempted to palm a falsehood upon that House, so
had he thought that the parties had any sinister motive
or view, or any ulterior design, he would not for a moment
have lent his sanction to the proceeding, or have join°
in that procession. He believed that it was a constite'
tional right of the people to assemble in that manner'
and he trusted that the Government would not further
interfere upon the occasion than to preserve peace'
He hoped that the people would be allowed to come
down in procession as was intended to the House. tie
should consider himself unworthy a seat in that House
if h e lent himself to any demonstration calculated to
cite the people to the slightest infraction of the peace.
Sir G. GREY—With respect to the people being takeo
by surprise, I can only say, that at the earliest monfeot
at which the Government could deliberate after they re,:
ceived the information, they directed the notice to whics
I have before referred to be issued, and it may 00
doubt be in the possession of the Hon. Member for Not'
tingham this evening.—(Cheers.) That notice will state
what, in the opinion of the law advisers, the law of the
land is upon the subject, and, without reference to pre.
cedents, I am sure, after having avowed the opinions he
'
has with respect to the good conduct of the people he
will, I am sure, be the last man to encourage any 1)04
of men summoned to join an assembly to violate the 40'
Mr. HUME said that upon a former occasion it had bee°,
asked if a peaceable procession was illegal, and Lor;
Melbourne's Government had stated that it was not, av°
they refused to interfere. He (Mr. Hume) thought
that it would be dangerous for the Government le
interfere at the present time, and he hoped that theft
would be induced to withdraw this notice.—(Cries
" No. no.")
PROTECTION OF THE CROWN AND GOVERN'

MENT.
Sir G. GREY—I beg, Sir, to give notice, that I shall,
to-morrow, move, before the other orders of the day'
fur leave to bring in a Bill to provide for the better 09:
curity of the Crowa and Government of the United
kingdom.—(Loud and long-continued cheering).

MEXICO.
Mr. URQUHART gave notice that he would, to'
morrow, ask her Majesty's Government whether Of,
had taken any steps to secure the interests of
British bondholders in Mexico, in case of the cession °
any of the territory belonging to that republic to the
United States.

CROWN OF BELGIUM.
The Hort. MEMBER also gave notice of his intentiott
to ask her Majest) 's Government whether they 1111,,c1
given any guarantee for the Crown of Belgium, or bout!
in consequence of the recent events on the Contineo"
entered into any engagement to maintain the existil3%
order of things in that kingdom.
CENTRAL AMERICA.
The HoN. MEMBER also asked whether, by consultivg
the law officers of the Crown, or obtaining the authorial
of the Privy Council, the requisite steps had been tale'"
to legalize the hostilities carrying on in Central Americo'

ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS.
Mr. BOUVERIE postponed his motion relating to tb°
Ecclesiastical Courts till after Easter.

WASTE LANDS OF IRELAND.
Mr. F. FRENCH then rose to bring forward his motiell
for leave to introduce a Bill to facilitate the reclamale"„
of Waste Lands in Ireland, and said the time had coolie
when that House must attend to the interests of Ireland'
the time had come when the people of that countrit
would take no excuse for any neglect of the,
wants, and be therefore trusted the House would
indulge him with its attention while he points
v
out a plan by which much of the misery and suffering
of Ireland might be mitigated.—(Hear, hear.) At the
present moment there were upwards of half a million
of agricultural labourers out of employ in Ireland;
and if they did not adopt some such meastlre,
as the one he was now about to propose, how were the)
to find employment for this large multitude? Emigratil
could not be resorted to, for the people were 11°
disposed to emigrate, nor would the inbw
bitants of the British colonies receive thell
if they were. What better course could be adopte",i
under these circumstances, than by doing what he
already been done in this country to a large exteett
namely, setting the unemployed to reclaim the west!,
lands? All the Committee that had been appointed t"
inquire into the matter had agreed in opinion that the
greatest good could not fail to result from the reclahls;
tion of waste lands. The Committee of 1830 state'
that 5,000,000 acres of these lands might be profitably re:,
claimed. It had been stated that bog land which
reclaimed would, after a given time, return to its original
state ; this had been proved by practical experience 13°
only in Ireland, but in Sweden and other parts of Eurollei
Such a measure as this would prove of the greattle
advantage--it would reduce the rates and save the
property of the country; and, in order to se,
that the money to be voted was properly gro
pended, a central Commission should be appointed t.
superintend the expenditure in the different localitil'e
As an indivividual Member, he had no power to prolleo
by his Bill for the raising now rates, but he proposed td
establish two unpaid Commissions, who should be adds
to the Board of Works, and that the funds to be raised feer
carrying on their operations should be provided by the
Chancellor of the Exchequer advancing money to te;
counties upon the same terms and same principles tbl,
the Russian Government advanced money to their lsn
banks. The establishment of such land-banks in Irelall
would prove of great benefit to the people, while it would
avoid the necessity of making any demands upon the
public Exchequer. Without, therefore, troubling t"
House any longer, he begged to move for leave to intr°'
duce the Bill of which he had given notice.—(Hear.)
Mr. P. SCROPE seconded the motion, and thougv
that the Government should have brought in a measure
for improving the waste lands of Ireland as an auxiliari
means of raising the social condition of Ireland. I/:
was of opinion that if they had brought forward such ",
measure when the potato crop failed, it would WA'
saved many millions to the people of this country, se',
saved many lives of the people of Ireland. He could 13°:
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that it was not improbable that moreP money would
be lost there for other purposes. There were 740,000
persons employed under the Labour-rate Act 10t
;
year, and the same number of persons would be
without employment this year as the summer AP"
proached. They would not only be wandering about Ire'
land, but they would again come over to this country'
and overflow its labour market as they did last year.'"
(Hear, hear.) What he desired was to substitute a sr:
cies of employment of a productive character, for whte"
labour now appeared to be thrown away. If the re'
sources of her land were fully developed, there would be
ample employment for the population of Ireland. Be
giving effect to such a system, they would have a chatte;
of creating in that country the middle class which We,,
so much wanted there. The objection which might by
urged to all he proposed was very likely to be the dO:4
eulty of finding money for all these works. He believed
however, that money would be advanced to capitalist,'
as fast as the works proceeded, and that there wet:
ether means of raising money if it was required. With
all the evidence before them, he trusted the subject
would be taken in hand by her Majesty's Government'
If it were not, the responsibility must rest upon the"
shoulders.

The question having been put,
Sir G. GREY said he did not offer any opposition
to the introduction of the Bill. The subject was red
important. There could be no doubt that much employ'
inent might be found for the people of Ireland by the
reclamation of waste lands, and that such a measure 0
the present would be of great importance as an auxiliarici
to the poor-law. The subject, however, was surrounded
with difficulties, and if the Hon. Member got over them
he would be exceedingly fortunate. He (Sir G. GreY)
understood that no vote of money was to be asked tort
and certainly that was very much in favour of the Bill'
But he reserved himself on details until another oppor'
(unity.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD expressed his concurrence ie
the object of the Bill ; and leave was then given.
POLITICAL OFFENDERS.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR next rose to move an address to
her Majesty, that she would be graciously pleased
to extend her royal pardon to John Frost, Zephy
niah Williams, and William Jones, and all poly
tical offenders. The Honourable Member said h,°,
addressed the House upon this occasion, as on all
other occasions of the same sort, with considerable da'
culty. He had himself been for some time past 50 inti
mately mixed up with what were called political offenders'
that he could not but feel that his bringing this subject
forward bore somewhat of a personal character. Ile
hoped that nothing which he might say with respect to
to the trial of Messrs. Frost, Williams, and Jones
would prejudice the House against the motion which be
was about to submit for their consideration. The Hoe,
Member then recapitulated the circumstances which
characterised the proceedings in question, and stated 0
a fact that one of the jury came after the trial to hirm
and admitted that he had impersonated another person
whose name was on the panel. When the case wile
argued before the judges in error, six were for quashing
the proceedings as informal, whilst nine were of opinioh
that the verdict ought to be maintained. In claiming
the royal mercy in favour of Frost, Williams, aria
Jones, he did not so much rest his motion upon
any fault in the legal proceedings, as upon the,
higher ground that Christianity taught a lesson ol
forgiveness when error had been sufficiently expiated by
suffering. Besides, there must have been something
essentially good in the characters of the three persons ie
question, for it had recently transpired that Frost was,
now tutor in a clergyman's family, a situation he could
not have held had he not been possessed of many admit'
able qualities. Were these persons, let him ask, to be
punished for the sake of terror, and in order to hold 00
an example to others? He therefore asked the Govern'
went whether no concession was to be made in the case
of Frost and his companions ? Hitherto no concession
had ever been made to public opinion by the Government

THE

but the people were now determined to exact their rights, mercy of the Crown in any case in which it might be
and the best thing Ministers could do would be to re thought necessary, but this was not, he thought, the time
commend a pardon to be granted in the case of the per- to interfere to rescue a man from penalties, which he
sons be referred to. He had great respect for was justly suffering, for a crime so great that he ought to
the personal character of the Right Honourable Baronet he on his knees from morning to night, thanking God
Opposite, but sometimes the Government in its that he had time to repent of it.—(Hear.) Frost, it should
collective capacity, committed acts which the Ind- be remembered, was a man of education, of station, and
vidual members of it shrank from ; and if the motion of influence in his neighbourhood, the more necessary
was refused, he should not attribute that result to the was it, therefore, that he should have shown an example
personal feeling of the Right Hon. Baronet. He re- to those over whom his influence extended of obedience
gretted Rot to see the Noble Lord (J. Russell) in his to and respect for the law, instead of encouraging
place, because he wished to call his attention to the them, and leading them on to acts of violence and treason.
particular ease of Frost, whose punishment was attri —(Hear, hear.) Then what was his defence at the
buted to a threat held out by the latter that he would . trial? He said, I belong to a body of chartists. I have
oppose the Noble Lord at the then ensuing election.— great influence with that body. There was another
(A laugh.) He regretted to hear a laugh on so painful chartist, a Mr. Vincent, in gaol. We did not wish to
a subject as that of the banishment of these poor men overturn the establishments of the realm, or to subvert 1
from their wives and families. No favour which the the Throne; but we desired to make a demonstration in i
Government could grant would be more gratefully re- favour of the principles we held, and to show to the i
ceived than that of the pardon of Frost, Williams, and magistrates of Monmouth that there is a strong feeling
Jones, and he trusted the House would be actuated not among the chartists in favour of this man Vincent, and
so much by justice as clemency in making an appeal to therefore we did that which you tell us is treason. The
the Crown for the exercise of its prerogative. He, defence was, that the Act of which they had been guilty
therefore, begged to move that an humble address be was not treason, but a demonstration. But the law said,
presented to her Majesty, praying that the royal cle- by the statutes of Edward and of George, that he who
rnency may be extended to Messrs. Frost, Williams, and levied war against the Queen was guilty of high
Jones, and to all other political offenders. :reason, and this was what the jury, after a most
Mr. WAKLEY seconded the motion. full and patient investigation, the accused having
Sir G. GREY said that the Hon. Member opposite had the aid of the most eminent counsel at the
taken the trouble to disclaim a proceeding of which he bar, found that they had done. It was true
had never heard him accused—namely, of having been that the jury accompanied their verdict by a re-
cognisant beforehand of the treasonable designs of commendation to mercy, on what grounds they did
Messrs. Frost, Williams, and Jones, and of having ab- not say ; but that recommendation was taken into con-
sconded when they were discovered. He had never sideration afterwards, and acted upon, and the sen-
seen or heard anything of the Hon. Member which tence, which, let it be remembered, was death, was
would lead him to suppose that he would incite others commuted to transportation for life. There was no
to crimes against the laws of the country. The Hun. difference amongst the judges as to the character of
Member had truly stated that the present was not the the offence or the propriety of the verdict ; they said
Snit occasion when the case of Frost and his companions they could discover no excuse for the offenders, and
had been brought under the notice of the House. The when the Lord Chief Justice gave judgment, he told
bmotion of the Hon. Member, somewhat modified, was the prisoners that crimes committed against life and
rought forward in 1846, when it was rejected by 196 property for the most part ended in suffering to the
ptigainst 31. For his own part he must disclaim the corn- individual or his family, but in the present case the
snent paid to him in his individual capacity by the crime was against all society, and was one which went
In o neeember, more particularly in so far as it was to break down every barrier which the Constitution
offeredhim at the expense of his colleagues and of his had erected for the safety of life, liberty, and property.
predecessor in office. He could state of his own There was then no difference of opinion as to the
knowledge that the most careful investigation of nature of the crime. The trial was good—the verdict
the facts had been instituted as well by himself was good and complete—and the judges approved of it.
Grahame th Right Honourable Baronet opposite (Sir J. Why, then, did the Hon. Member for Finsbury now come
), and the result had been, as it was now his forward and tell that House in the name of the people
painful task to inform the Hon. Member, that nothing that they were dissatisfied? The Hon. Member must
but a severe sense of duty could have induced former surely have forgotten that on that mischievous night
Governments as it now did him, to resist such a motion when those treasonable acts, for which these men were
as that before the House. It was always a painful office now justly undergoing the penalty of the law were per-
to recal to mind the guilt of individuals, who, like petrated, nine men were shot down and killed. These
Frost, Williams and Jones, were expiating their crimes died in their guilt, and with the sin of their crimes upon
in a penal settlement; but the duty devolved upon him their heads. The were in all probability ignorant
of showing that the offences committed by those persons people without friends, and had been induced by the
were not of that mild and innocent nature which the Hon. influence of Frost to join in the illegal act. But what
'Member had described, but were, in point of fact, of a must be the guilt of that man who led them on to that
nature to prove fatal to the peace, the welfare, and even crime which resulted in death to them ? He had no
the lives of those very classes whose interests the Hon. hesitation in saying that that leader had to answer for
Member opposite professed to have most nearly at heart. those nine lives. —(Hear, hear.) He could not under-
-(Hear.) He recollected, at the time, that a plea for the stand what excuse could be made for that man, who,
treasonable and seditious manifestations that were made, leading others to criminal acts, in the prosecution of
was offered in the circumstance that the lower classes some abstract cause which he advocated, occasioned
were goaded into acts of violence by want and destitution. their deaths. In his view that man would be as guilty
But was such an excuse to be offered for Frost or his com- of their deaths as though the parties fell by
panions? Were they in want of the necessaries or even his hand and the penalty should lie with
the luxuries of life? No. They availed themselves of him. The effect of the example of Frost and his
the poverty and the consequent discontent excited in the co-partners in guilt on the state of society had not been
minds of the labouring [classes, and they did so for the what it might have been. Fortunately magistrates, the
Mere Purpose of personal ;advancement and self-aggran- inhabitants generally, and the soldiers, did their duty
disenaent. If any doubt were entertained by the House and they had their reward. Then what ground was
as to the grave character of the crime of which they were there for dissatisfaction?—(Hear, hear.) Was it that
convicted, let him refer to the address of the judge who strict and impartial justice had not been done? This no
tried them, Sir N. Tindal, than whom a more enlight- one would be bold enough to assert. Or was it that the
oiled and humane judge never sat on the bench. But people were so enamoured of the forms and quirks of the
the Hon. Member bad rested his motion, not so much law that, because an objection in point of form had been
on his denial of the gravity of the crime as on what he raised in this case and had failed, they were dissatisfied?
termed the illegal nature of the trial, which ought, in But with regard to that objection, a majority of the
his opinion, to have at once been quashed. He rejoiced judges, it was true, decided that it was good; but a ma-
to hear the Hon. Member admit so much, for his avowal jority also decided that it was not taken in good time—
Would go forth to those classes who regarded him as a and, not a majority, but all the judges, agreed that if it
leader that he considered the crime attributed to Frost, had been taken in time the only effect would have been
Williams, and Jones as indisputable. With regard to to postpone the trial. He did not despise form in legal
the legality of the proceedings, none of the judges proceedings. On the contrary, he believed that form
had been fof opinion that the conviction was not good gave strength to the law, and was the means of pro-
in law. On the contrary, their opinion was, that the tecting the innocent and keeping power in its proper
conviction was legal, and the Secretary of State place, nor did he mean to say that there had not been
then had only to perform his duty, which he something wrong in point of forms in this case sufficient
did with the utmost lenity, the capital punishment to justify the exercise of the prerogative of mercy to the
having been remitted for the milder one of transports- extent to which it had been exercised. Of all species of
tion for life to a penal colony. There were other crimi- treason the worst was the levying war in the Queen's
nals tried at the same time with the three chief offendrers, dominions. This was the crimeo which these parties
but of these 10 were allowed to withdraw their plea and had been
guilty, and with his readi of the laws, and to plead guilty, and these were sentenced to short terms his understanding of the object and meaning of punish-
of imprisonment which had long since expired. Taking meat, he could not vote for the motion.—(lfear.) all the circumstances into consideration, he was of opi- Mr. GARDNER supported the motion.
nion that there was no ground for inducing the House to 111 r. O'CONNOR, in reply, thanked the House for the
make a special application to the Crown for mercy to fair and patient hearing they had given to the subject.
these individuals. If, notwithstanding the blood that As Hon. Members had objected to a
general motion in
had been shed by the misguided and criminal men who favour of all political offenders, he was willing to amend
were now suffering for their offences, the House were to this by excluding from it all such offenders, except
step in and plead for their pardon, there would be no Frost, Jones, Williams, and Ellis (the man convicted at
line of conduct by which hereafter to be guided in Stafford) the only parties for whom he was interested.
similar cases. It was most especially the duty of the Having so amended it, he would put it to the opinion of
Government to repress such wicked and dangerous the House. The House divided, when there appeared—
attempts as those of Frost, Williams, and Jones. It For the motion
was the leaders that the law ought more particularly Against it
to lay hold of. It was to the leaders that the atten• Majority —6B
tion of the authorities ought most strongly to be THE LATE RAJA OF SAT rARA.
attracted, and he was quite sure that the Hon. Member "Mr. G. THOMPSON rose to move for a Select Corn-
would not deny that to liberate the leaders of an insur- mittee to inquire into the conduct of the Court of Dim-
gent mob would be an act of the greatest cruelty to tors of the East India Company, and of the Government
those whom they had misled. No person placed in the of India, towards the late Raja of Sattara, and to report
situation which he had the honour to hold could give his thereupon to the House. He said that as the present
sanction to the motion before the House, without in-
curring great danger. It had even been admitted by the but the memorial of 60,000 or 70,000 natives of India,
Hon. Member that no undue severity had been practised praying for justice to the bereaved relatives of the late
towards the three persons named by him. He only re- Raja of Sattara, he trusted it would receive the attention
gretted having been in a manner compelled to revive the of the House. It had been contended that the Indian
recollection of their crimes, but he felt that he had only Government had acted with the strictest justice towards
done his duty in speaking to the motion before the the late Raja, but stern facts gave the strongest contra-
House. With respect to the Hon. Member's observation diction to that assertion. Who was the late Raja of
that the case of. Frost was not a proper subject for Sattara? He was the lineal descendant of the founder
laughter, he must state that the laughter appeared to of the Mahratta empire—an empire which once extended
him to have been solely directed to the absurd imputation from the banks of the Jumna down to Tanjore. The
of jealousy on the part of his Noble Friend (Lord J. late Raja had been solemnly recognised by the
Russell) excited by his fear of having Mr. Frost for a Indian Government, and an alliance was entered
political opponent. For the reasons he had stated he should into with him avowedly to the advantage of
feel it to be his duty to oppose the motion. both the contracting parties. Treaties had Lord
collection C. MORGAN said that he had a very vivid re- entered into with him by Mr. Elphinstone and Lord
collection of the facts of the case as they came out on the Hastings; and even Mr. Canning had thanked General
trial of Frost, Williams, and Jones, and he must, in the Smith for having, by his victories, placed the late Raja on
performance of his duty, vote against the motion of the the throne of his ancestors. For 17 years, from 1818 to
1835, his Highness had remained our faithfulhtaulleya and
Hon. Member.
Mr. HUME said that the decision of the judges was had highly distinguished himself b his enli
nine to six on the point that the legal forms had not just government of his own domains.y Theng thee Indianand
been complied with on the trial, and on that ground he Government commenced violating those treaties whch
should vote for the motion of the Hon. Member, as he confirmed the Raja's authority over the Jaghirs, and
considered the whole proceedings were illegal, and that plot upon plot followed, until at last he was dethroned
Frost, Williams, and Jones were illegally conveyed out and expelled from his domains. The Hon. Member
of the country. With respect to the general grounds on entered into several details respecting these transactions,
which the motion was based, he must say that he thought all of which have been reported in former debates, and
the Government of England ought to stand on higher said that if a Committee was granted he would under-
grounds than those which called for the banishment of take to prove that the Raja had been the victim of the
political offenders. Russia and England were now the grossest injustice and oppression. The deceased Raja
only two countries where political offences were not con- had never ceased struggling for his rights. In 1836 he
sidered to be worthy of:pardon. appointed an agent in England to appeal to the India
Mr. AGLIONBY said that the term " all political hoard and the company against the conduct of the local
offenders" was too wide a one for him to assent to, and authorities; that agent did appeal, and commu-
he recommended the Hon. Member to alter it. He had nications were sent out, but not one of those corn-
should again repeat his vote now.
voted formerly in favour of a similar motion, and he munications was shown to the Raja. On two occa-
Mr. WAK sions Sir R. Grant had promised the Raja toLEY said that every part of the case was lay his statement of his case before the India board,
so fully and minutely known to the House and the coun- but lie had failed to do so. The charge against the
try, that it would be a waste of time to enter into the
Rajah, that he was conspiring with the other native
details or to discuss them. Neither would he discuss
the question of treason; it was enough that Frost and princes to drive the British out of India, rested on the
his companions were found guilty of that crime. But evidence of two subadars, who had never been subject
successful in their enterprise, as others had to any cross-examination, and whose statements had
be would observe that Frost and Williams might have not been confirmed in any respect, and upon this evi-
beeilt
been in deuce, without explanation or inquiry, the Government
f countries
aoreign , and then they would have been lauded
of Bombay had condemned the Raja, and in a secret
a patriots instead of being branded as traitors. What
he wanted to impress on the House was the feelings dispatch to the Court of Directors, had declared that he
had been faithless to his treaties, and had entered into a
entertained by the working classes towards those men, league to put an end to British rule in India; and having
one feelings which Treasury h© saw had created an uneasy sensation without sufficient grounds pronounced him guilty, they
bench.—(Laugh ter.) There were felt bound to maintain that he was so, aad to suppress
million's of the working classes who believed that everything that went to prove his innocence. A Coin-
Frost, Williams, and Jones had been illegally convicted, mission was appointed, receiving its instructions from
and that opinion it was impossible to shake.
The very counsel on the trial said that this was the Sii. R. Grant; three men sat in the capital of a sove-
; and two of the most eminent reign prince to try that sovereign, who was not even
barecas men at the allowed to cross-examine tho witnesses, or have an
, the Lord Chief Baron, and Sir. F. Kelly also stated that if the objection had been taken earlier, the advocated present. The testimony given was most con-
prisoners must have been acquitted. The motion was tra ictory, and yet the Raja was found guilty. This
humanity Committee ought to be granted, only an appeal to the of the House; but it was
sake ofc Sir R. Grant from the
learing the memory of were it ouly for the
hopeless to expect the House to make any concession to
the people. When he reflected on the past he only stain which must otherwise rest upon it. It was much
wondered that the working classes would ever consent
to Major• General Lodwick's credit that he had made an
open confession ; and if the Committee were granted,
to appeal to the House again. It was not always the he" would give the fullest
wasevidence onthesubject. Not-
people who committed treason. There were kings who withstanding the Rajafound guilty by the commis-
had been traitors to their country—royal miscreants— sign, whennthe evidence was tdranhsmitte.d to Calcutta,
ay, miscreants—who came to England after having serious doubts were
vainly attempted to take away the liberties of their were taken to procure ts: forged documtenitt'whaincdh did dot
countrymen. Such persons had experienced the kindest find its way to Sir R. Grant-uptil after considerable. de-
reception from the nobility, and even royalty did not lays. The resignation of Major-General Lodwick was
scruple to receive them into its palaces. He regretted then effected, and Colonel Ovens the contrast thus offered by the manner in which the He arrived at the Raja's residennsce
aipnpojitinnted in
.h i. s
iplace.hin
retition of the working classes for mercy to Frost, Wil- two months he had sent numbers of letterse itBo3B‘ 'omw Bombay;
lie ws, and Jones had been received by the House and and then Govan Row was secured and tampered with,
Government. He should be betraying his duty if he did and a confession extorted from him, which however did
not cordially support the motion. not confirm the former evidence. Afterwards a petition
Colonel THOMPSON said that the present was an was forged to prove conspiracy on the part of the Raja;
,PPortune moment forth •
been more - r e motion, which would have 750 rupees were promised the forger; but these not he-
m,. sProperly made a week ago or a week hence. ing paid, he came to Colonel Ovens to expose the
extend S. RAWFORD hoped the Government would whole affair. Major Oliphant, one of the directors of
extend FORD to Frost and his companions, who had now the East India Company, protested against the conduct
expiated their off' ence - •
njul)!.• BOWRxxso ashy eight years' sufferings. pnrsued towards the Raja. There were serious
nity Feesexrs-lei icon the part of a very large com- charges against Colonel Ovens of a grave and dark
ion. ife , is determination to vote for the mo- character, every one of which he would undertake to
prerogative of t%),"ege resisted any interference with the prove before a Committee of that House. He would prove
Frost and his cons Crown s
whether it panioos 17 an address in favour of ihat the correspondence between the Raja and the
was not liko , ut at present he would ask governor of Goa was forged. He would tell who the
estimation of the LlO-1. to raise the Government iu the parties were who forged it, and the places where it was
an address in favour
07tiabi consenting to the motion for forged. If the Raja was guilty, so was the Viceroy
if this course was adopted. criminal;?
Sir D. DUNDAS th • He should rejoice of Goa ; and if the Government believed that ho really
ought it w
(and he
Member for Finsbur
argument on the part of the Jr was an extra° d• • so,the Portuguese Government? It was said
was would not they have made representations on theid
that the people of England (a
on r inary subject to
' that the Governor of Goa promised 30,000 troops, 15,000
who. he meant by the people
fished with a verdict which had
orif
rho had not explained of whom were to be French, and who must march
in
hge to law, therefore, because of
england) being dissa- through Turkey, Persia, and Affighanistan.—(Hear,
(s'nuxturned, accord- hear.) He knew the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite
were House of Commons, lawyere, and dissatisfaction, would refer to authority, and say that Lord Auckland
kthe law gave
for
to surrender all the securities which
f rproperty, life, and liberty. These ine ezherenellthe
men of sense, and Lord Brougham believed the Raja guilty. But
they pronounced their opinions before the documents
Penalties they incurred in the case of failureln on which
entered upon tl • he was believed to be guilty were proved to be
• ht leer treasonable course, and the hen theY forged. It never entered into the heads of Lord Auck-
to complain that they were now suffering Penalties. those land or Sir R. Grant to depose the Raja without
what But what was the offence of these affording him a fair trial. And up to the present moment
was the penalty they were suffering men, and he never had a copy of the evidence given him.—(Hear,
Member for Bolton had ? The Hon. Directors themselves had such
sufficient! ` asked, had they hear.) The Court of
Su . y? Surely that Hon• Member not suffered misgivings on the subject, that they wrote to Sir J. Car-
ffering to the individ I . must know that sac to arrange the matter with the Raja. But there
Punishment, "Pe individual was not the
It a- Pena ad paucas only object of were parties in Bombay who were opposed to this, and
as not merely what the Fetus ad omnes veneat." when Sir J. Carnac proposed to draw up articles, Col.
vsas the effectofthe individual suffered, but what Ovens threatened that he would make revelations which
be '
it
from
him
.punishment on society at large.
to interpose a ' Far would compromise the character of Sir J. Carnac
gainst the exercise of the himself.

Sir J. C. HOBTIOUSE—God bless my soul !
Mr. THOMPSON—The Right Hon. Gentleman says
" God bless my soul !" He (Mr. Thompson) cried
" Amen." He would produce an eye-witness of what
had occurred, if he was granted the Committee. The
Right Hon. Baronet seemed to think it incredible. The
greater then the necessity for inquiry. The Raja had
the alternative proposed to him of admitting his guilt,
or being deposed. He preferred hir deposition to the
dishonour of admitting that 'he was guilty.—(Heav,
hear.) He said that he would lay down his crown, but
that he would not stain his character. He was accord-
ingly deposed, and now it was said that it was because
he would not sign the treaty of 1819. He was told that
his private property would be respected, but after peace-
ably submitting to his deposition, neither he nor his
representative had touched one farthing of the 300,0001.
which he left behind him. The night after he was de-
posed he was placed in a cattle shed, and the officers who
accompanied him were heard to say this is a business
which will make a row in England. Colonel Ovens had
for three years intercepted all the Raja's correspondence,
and that of his friends in Europe arid European friends
in India, and it was a remarkable fact that not a single
letter could be produced to bring on him the slightest
suspicion of hostility. From 1839, when he was deposed,
to the present year, eight years had elapsed, and not
one single circumstance had taken place confirmatory or
corroborative of the charges brought against him.
Months and years had passed along, and there had
been a steady accumulation of evidence in his favour.
Take another fact. Who, connected with India, be-
lieved in the Raja's guilt ? Not the residents at the
Raja's court--not the directors of the India board—not
the present chairman of the directorate.—(Hear, hear.)
He would only further remind the House that there
were great issues at stake in their decision. It had
gone abroad throughout India that the Raja had been
unjustly deposed. The people of India were anxiously
watching that House, to see if there was any real appeal
to the Government at home.—(Loud cheers.) They
asked for this Committee, moreover, in justice to the
Indian Government. The Government of that country
was a Government less of the sword than a Government
of opinion, and it was necessary to the maintenance of
that opinion that justice should be done. He asked
for the Committee, then, in the name of the people of
India—in the name of all those distinguished men whose
characters were implicated—and in the name of British
justice, to which no injured man ever was known to ap-
peal in vain.—(Loud cheers.)
Mr. J. WILLIAMS seconded the motion, observing
that very great dissatisfaction would be felt out of doors
if the Government refused their consent to this appeal.
The question having been put,
Mr. BROTHERTON said it would be impossible to
proceed with the discussion at that late hour.—(Oh.)
He would move the adjournment of the House.
Mr. G. C. LEWIS, however, rose and proceeded to
speak. He said, the difficulty he might otherwise ex-
perience in treating this question was very much miti-
gated by the form of the motion placed before them.
When a similar motion had been submitted by the Hon.
Member for Montrose the Raja of Sattara was living,
and might have been restored to his rights. The Raja,
however, was now dead, and the motion of the Hon. Mem-
ber became of comparatively little importance, and was
of a very shadowy and intangible nature. There was an-
other reason which diminished his difficulty in meeting
this question. If ever there was a case where previous
decisions ought to have weight, this was the very case.
Ever since 1839 this question had been mooted in a
great variety of ways. On every occasion, however, the
result bad been the same. In India, in the Court of
Directors, and in Parliament the decision bad uniformly
been against the Raja, and it was not to be expected
that at this period they should re-open questions so long
adjusted, and the decisions upon which had never yet
been successfully questioned. The Hon. Member, however,
had made serious imputations on influential persons,
both living and dead, and it was necessary that he
(Mr. Lewis) should address himself to some of those
particulars. There were, the House would observe,
three persons particularly interested, Sir Robert Grant,
Sir James Carnac, and the Raja of Sattara himself.
Now who was the Raja ? He was a mere dependent of
the British Government. He was a prince of our own
creation. He never at any time had any power indepen-
dent of our political agency. lie could make no treaty,
declare no war, except with British consent, and the de-
cree'which created him a sovereign concluded by declaring
that any infraction of the conditions should be sufficient
to deprive him of his power. He claimed a por-
tion of the British territory, and that claim was
rejected by the Bombay Government. The question was
then referred to the Court of Directors, and they con-
firmed that decision. The Hon. Gentleman then pro-
ceeded to rebut the accusations which had been made
by the Hon. Mover against Sir R. Grant, which he said
he had heard with the deepest pain, which he declared
to be unfounded as they were undeserved, and the re-
sult altogether of mistake, surmise, or suspicion. He
resumed the direct question by pointing to the Special
Commission issued by the Bombay Government, who
had come to the unanimous conclusion that the Raja
had tampered with some of the British officers, and had
engaged in intrigues against the British Government,
which were calculated to become subversive of British
power, and were totally inconsistent with his situation
as a subordinate Prince holding his sovereignty by the
grant of that Government. Lord Auckland was dis-
posed to take a more severe view of the case than Sir
R. Grant had done. Colonel Ovans, who succeeded
Colonel Lodwick as resident at the Court of Sattara, in
that capacity, investigated two charges, one of which
was of very slight gravity. It appeared, however,
from the result of the inquiries, that the
.Raja
was a weak and ignorant man, and was mis-
led into a belief that, by the aid of the Portu-
guese Government, ho might be placed at the
head of the Mahratta Confederacy. Some ill-paid
functionaries at Goa did certainly succeed in extracting
large sums from the Raja on this score. The charges
made by the Hon. Member against Colonel Ovens had
been more than once brought forward, and without en-
tering into their details he would state that he held in
his hand complete answers to those charges, and he was
prepared to lay them on the table of the House, and to
move at some future day that they be printed' for the
complete information of Hon. Members.—(Hear, hear.)
He, therefore, requested the House to regard those
charges altogether without prejudice until they had an
opportunity of examining into the facts. It had been
asserted that the East India Company had expressed no
opinion on the subject of Colonel Ovens' conduct, but he
would refer to a letter addressed, by order of the direc-
tors, to that officer, wherein they state that the charges
made by the Hon. Member left no stain upon his public
or private character; at the_same time they stated that
they would not be parties to any prosecution instituted
against the Honourable Member for having uttered the
language he had done against Colonel Ovens. It
was proposed to issue a commission of inquiry into
the conduct of the Raja at his capital, but Lord
Auckland thought this course might be attended
with inconvenience, and referred the matter
home. Sir James Carnac afterwards assumed the
Governorship of Bombay, and as he was aware of the
disposition of the Court of Directors relative to the
Raja, a proposal was made by him to overlook the con-
duct of the Prince, on condition that he promised not
again to enter into fresh intrigues. A treaty, embody-
ing the conditions which the home Government thought
it advisable to insist on, was proposed, by which the
Raja engaged not again to enter into any secret arrange-
ments or intrigues with other Indian states; and this
treaty was laid before him for his signature. But he
positively refused to do so. The Raja alleged, as his
reason, that the preamble contained an admission of his
guilt, which he never would make. But he must meet
that objection by stating that the preamble did not
contain any such admission, but merely stated the belief
of the English Government that such intrigues had
existed as had been alleged. But even had this objec-
tion been made—which it never was—Sir James Carnac
was ready to cancel the preamble, as, according to the
statement of the Honourable Member for Thetford, it
was not necessary for the purposes of the treaty. The
arrangement which the British Government made
on the deposition of the Raja brought no ad-
vantage to them. They required nothing of him
except that he should enter into a treaty con-
firming a former treaty, and settling the dis-
puted question of the Jaghirs. The Government
would have been justified in annexing the whole of his
dominions to the British territory, but they wished their
conduct to be above all suspicion, and, therefore, they
contented themselves with transferring the government
from one brother to another. There could be no doubt
but that reasonable ground existed for suspecting trea-
sonable conduct on the part of the Raja; on that ground
Sir James Carnac had acted, and hence the Raja's depo-
sition. This was the view which he (Mr. Lewis) took
of the case, and if the House concurred with him, they
would consider that granting a Committee of Inquiry
would be a measure of no possible utility. Such a Com-
mittee could lead to no result; for even if they made a
report unfavourable to the Indian Government, Members
of that House would rely more on the opinions of men
acquainted with India than on the report of a Committee
unacquainted with the Indian character, Indian language,
or Indian documents. He denied that the Raja's family
had been left in a state of destitution. They had an al-
lowance which, although not sufficient to maintain the
regal state which the late Raja had affected at Benares,
was what might be considered a full competence in India.
For these reasons he must oppose the motion of the Hon.
Member for the Tower Hamlets.
Mr. HUME moved the adjournment of the debate.
Sir J. HOGG speaking to the question of adjourn-
ment, vindicated the character of Colonel Ovans from
the charges which had been brought forward that even-
ing. A long catalogue of the most atrocious charges
had been put forward, but not one tittle of evidence had
been advanced in their support. He should be inclined
prima
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whose
said
d been
ttchs
at
to vote for the Committee were it not that granting a
made
mtahodene out.t
the
Committee was generally considered to intimate that a
e H Honourableouse
sßaronethould thepwas
ay personMr.
strict attention on this question. If a Committee were
granted, the characters not only of Indian subordinates,
but of the India Company, would be subjects of inquiry,
and of that Company the Honourable Baronet was an
influential member.—(Hear.)
Mr. G. THOMPSON pledged himself to establish all
his charges before the Committee by official documents.
The debate was then adjourned to Thursday next.
NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT.
Mr. STAFFORD moved to nominate the Kitchen
Accommodation and Eating-rooms Committee:—Mr,
Lord Marcus Hill, Mr. 11. J. Baillie, Sir R.
Stafford, Sir G. Clerk, the Earl of Arundel and Surrey,
Mr. Hume,
H. Inglis, the Earl of Mulgrave, the Earl of March, Mr.
Alderman Humphery, Lord C. Wellesley, Lord Ernest
Bruce, Mr. Sheridan, Mr. Dawson, and the Earl of
Shelburne.—Agreed to.
THE OFFICE OF SERGEANT-AT-ARMS.
Mr. HUME, in reference to his motion for a Select
Committee to inquire into the duties of the Sergeant-at-
Arms attending on this House, and the salary, emolu-

tf
• meets, and -patronage of the' office, with a view to the
regulation of the same before the occupation of the new
Houses of Parliament, and previous to filling up the
vacant office, stated that he regretted to find the office
had been alreadyifilled up, as he thought it ought to have
been given to Mr. Clementson, the Deputy-Sergeant.
He thought the appointment should not rest with the
Lord Chamberlain, but with the House.
Mr. STAFFORD called attention to the fact that Mr.
Clementson, the Deputy-Sergeant, had filled that office
for 44 years, and had on various occasions performed
the office of Sergeant, and during three months on one
occasion received the emoluments. It was only due to
Nlr. Clementson to state the respect in which the House
held him, and he hoped that Lord C. Russell, the new
Sergeant, would follow his example.
The House adjourned at a Quarter to Two o'clock.

PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS

From the Votes and proceedings of the House of Commons.

FROST, WILLIAMS,
THURSDAY, Armi 6.
Motion made, and Question put," That an humble Ad-
dress be presented to her Majesty, that her Majesty may be
graciously pleased to extend her royal pardon to John Frost,
JONES, AND ELLIS.
Zephaniah Williams, William Jones, and John Ellis." The
House divided :

AIINORITY—AYES, 23.
Aglionby, 11. A.
Blewitt,;Reginald Hall, Sir Benjamin Thompson, Colonel
Bovvring, Dr. Ilindley Charles Thompson, Georg,
Clay, James Hume, Joseph Turner, Edmund
Collins, William Meagher, Thomas Walmsley, ~ir J.
Crawford, W. S. Pechell, Captain; Williams, John
Evart, William Pilkington, James
Fox, W. J. Salwey, Colonel TELLERS.
Gardner, Richard Scholefleld, William O'Connor,:Feargus
Stuart, Lord D. Wakley, Thomas

BIAJORITY—NOES, 91.
Adair, R. Shafte Greed!, C. Pascoe
Anderson, Arthur Grey, Sir George
Archdall, Captain Grey, R. W.
Armstrong, Sir A. Haggitt, F. R.
Bailey, Joseph, jun, Hamilton, G. A.
Bellew, R. M. Hawes, B.
Berkeley, Captain Hay, Lord J.
Buck, Lewis W. Hayter, W. G. sssßsßßihetiu.iy.eecssliThGssb:cau
reolli
crollid:i,fsLe:,e.:R,LFCrlAodc.
Chris.rhj:dlal.
.rodf
Buller, Charles Heathcoat, John
Heathcote, Sir W. Somerville. Sir W.
Busfeild, William
Cabbell, B. B. 7 Henley, J. W. Spooner, Richard
Christy, Samuel Hervey, Lord A.
Colebrooke, Sir T. Heywood, James
Compton, H. C. Hobliouse,•Sir J.
Courtenay, Viscount Hobhouse, T. B.
Cowper W. F.
' nogg, Sir J. W.
Craig, W. G. Hotham, Lord
Cubittt, William Keppel, George T.
Davies, D. A. Law, C. E.
Dick, Quintin Lewis, G. C.
Divett, Edward
Duacuft, John
Dundas, Sir D.
Ebrington, Viscount Wilson, Matthew
Elliot, John E. Morison, General Wood, Sir Charles
Fergus, John Mostyn, E. Wood, W. P.
Ferguson, Sir R. Napier, Joseph Yorke, 11. R.
Forster, M. Newdegate, C. N.
Fox, Richard M. O'Brien, Sir Lucius
Gibson, Thomas M. O'Connell, M. J.
Graham, Sir J. Palmerston, Vis.
Greene, Thomas Parker, John
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TILLERS.
MU, Lord M.
Tufnell, Henry

BANK OF ENGLAND.
ANALYSIS OF THE RETURN PUBLISHED
APRIL 1, 1848.
RECEIPTS.
On Increase of Public Deposits .. £495,164
On Cash received in consideration of
increased issue of Seven-day and
other bills
On account of decrease of " Other
Securities
On account of Banking Profit on in-
creased "Rest"

4,334

APPROPRIATION OF THN ABOVE.
Discharge of decrease of " Private
Deposits" .
For purchase of increased Govern-
ment Securites
Increased issue of Seven day and
other bills

~5 i 3,0'.

•x@569,955

---
Amount not returned to circulation 3,056
N.B. Although the Bank of England increased its
amount of bullion during the week 193,6531., public ac-
commodation by way of circulation was only decreased
3,0561., viz.:—
Increase of Bullion
£193,653
Increased issue of notes £155,985
Ditto ditto Seven day and other
Bills • 34,612

..£190,597

Ilfracombe, April 2, 1848.

£3,056

FINE ARTS,
BURNS AT BANNOCKBURN.
A large, bold, and somewhat striking picture has
been recently painted by James M. Scrymgeour, re-
presenting Robert Burns, on the back of a ragged
little Ipony, returning home with his friend Dr.
Currie late on the night when the great storm
of 1793 burst over Scotland. This sin-
gular production has recently been en-
graved by G. H. Every, and a proof before
letters has been submitted to our consideration. A
double interest attaches itself to the incident repre-
sented by the artist—the interest of the occasion
itself (Burns in a great storm) and the interest of the
result of that occasion, namely, the composition dur-
ing the roar of the elements of the immortal lyric,
" Robert Bruce's Address to his Army on the
field of Bannockburn !" That this renowned
war-song was actually conceived and shaped
into eloquence during the tempest of 1793, we are
assured by the account penned by Dr. Currie him-
self. In the engraving the bard is represented as
calm in the very midst of the tumult of the earth
and of the sky—his manly (and to us always beautiful,
because manly,) countenance is revealed by the
ghastly sheen of the lightning, in
inspiration, the eyes
there is the rapture of poetic
and on the lip there is the enthusiasm
and intrepidity of the patriot. In the lower features
is the expression of that unutterable scorn which
dictated those withering verses :
" Wha will be a traitor knave ?
Wha can fill a coward's grave ?
Wha sae base as be a slave ?
Let him turn and flee!"
While in the upper features one can recognise the
divine afflatus, such as must have been visible ou the
noble face of the ploughman when he was inspired
with the lines that follow—
" Wha for Scotland's king and law
Freedom's sword will strongly
draw,
Freeman stand, or freeman fa' ?
Let him follow me !
" By oppressions woes and pains !
By your sons in servile chains !
We will drain our dearest veins,
!"
This too, be it remembered humming its music
But they shall be free
through his brain to the tune' of " H tuttieey tattle
—that air which tradition declares to have been
the chorus of Bruce at the battle of Bannockburn—
and of which air we remember that Burns himself
speaks, somewhere, as having filled his eyes with
tears when he heard it played on the hautboy! Al-
together the engraving is meritorious, except—a
huge exception we will acknowled
e—in the fact that
the pony is as much like a real
pony as it Is like a
whipping-post.
g

METROPOLITAN SEWERS COM-

On Tuesda MISSION.
y, in the forenoon Viscount Ebrington,
M.P., the Hon, in
Byng, Mr. Lambert Jones,
Mr. Hutton, Mr. Leslie, and other of the Commis-
sioners belonging to the above Commission, met at
the Sessions-house, Newington, for the purpose of
hearing and deciding appeals against a rate made by
the Commission on account of the sewers situate in
the counties of Surrey and Kent. The Right lion.
Lord Ashley in the chair.
This district comprises the parishes of Camber-
well, Christ Church (Blackfriars), Lambeth, Rother •
hithe, Bermondsey, St. Olave's, St. John's, and St.
Saviour's. The number of appellants was upwards of
1,000.
The parish of Lambeth was taken first. Poverty
was alleged as the excuse in the majority of instances,
for the non-payment of the rate.
Mr. LESLIE observed, that if the tenants were
unable to pay, the landlords ought to be compelled to
do so. If the tenant was held responsible, and the
-
fact became known that the landlord was not liable,
an inducement would he given to landlords to re
lieve themselves from the rate. He saw no reason
why the landlord should be excused, after it had been
shown that the tenant was unable to pay. The 31st
clause of the Act of the Surrey and Kent Commis-
sion he held to be conclusive upon that point.
Mr. HERTSLET, the clerk of the correspondence,
said that it was the practice in that Commission to
rate the tenant, and in case of default to follow the
occupier, who would recover from the landlord.
Mr. CORNELL, clerk to the district, said that the
Commissioners could have imposed the rate upon the
owners of property, but they thought it proper to
rate the occupiers.
Mr. HUTTON remarked that he noticed several
instances of tenants who were not able to pay
their rents. He thought the landlords ought to
be rated, or the Commission would lose the rate
altogether.
Mr. LESLIE said, that from the Act, 23d of
Henry the Eighth, the rate was laid as a tax upon
property. According to that statute, therefore, power
was vested in the Commissioners to rate the owners.
The Rev. Wm. STONE thought the question of such
importance that counsel's opinion should be taken
thereupon.
Mr. HERTSLET said, if the landlords were made
liable, some thousands of pounds would be annually
recovered which were now lost to the Commission.
Viscount EBRINGTON, Mr R. L. JONES,
and other
Commissioners, having spoken, a motion to the effect
" that counsel's opinion be taken upon the question,"
was put and carried unanimously.
The other cases were then gone into, and all com-
plaints entered for subsequent consideration. Some
of these complaints went to show that although the
parties had paid sewer-rates for years to a large
amount, typhus fever raged amongst them, and that

Mary Ann Foster, the wile of the gentleman examined
yesterday evening, deposed as follows :—Previous to her
marriage she was matron of the Bluecoat School for ten
years. She recollected a Sunday in June, 1844, when a
boy named Bayliss was ill. He was in an unhappy state
of mind, and required religious consolation. They
knew that the usual clergy connected with the
school were from horse, and they applied to
Mr. Lee to attend. This was about six in the even-
ing, and Mr. Lee, in company with Mrs. Lee, came in
about three-quarters of an hour afterwards. When
witness met Mr. Lee in the hall she observed that his
manner was very different from what it usually was.
She accompanied Mr. Lee from her own parlour
to the sick ward. Mr. Lee, in, an imperative manner,
requested witness and
.others immediately to leave tho
room. Her impression was that Mr. Lee was intoxi-
cated. She returned to her room, and requested Mr.
Foster to go to Mr. Lee, as, in consequence of the boy's
illness and Mr. Lee's state, she was much alarmed. On
Mr. Lee's return down stairs, he and Mrs. Lee remained
in her parlour until the children had nearly done sup-
per. While he was in the parlour witness observed the
Bishop's manner,:and she thought the same of him as
she did when she was up-stairs. Their usual supper
hour was between half past seven and eight o'clock, but
on that occasion they delayed it later, in the hope that
Mr. Lee would leave. They were anxious that he should
leave, as they did not wish the children to observe Mr.
Lee's excited and intoxicated appearance. After supper,
although Mr. Foster was prepared to deliver his cus-
tomary address to the children, Mr. Lee undertook the
duty. Witness was within two yards of him. She
observed in him great indistinctness and hesitation,
different to his usual manner. Mrs. Lee looked anxious
and uncomfortable. The manner of Mr. Leo was spoken
of by herself and husband the same evening.
Cross-examined by Mr. WiIITEHURST Witness
thought Mr. Lee's intoxication must be observable to
any person of common sense. His discourse was a good
one; but coming from Mr. Lee it was not an excellent
one. From an ignorant person it would have been ex-
cellent.s His language was not so clear and beautiful a
usual.

••••• ••••••
Charlotte Bayliss resided in Birmingham. Remem-
bered her son being ill. Was with him. [The witness
then corroborated the account of tho last witness.] Mr.
Lee ordered them all to leave the room as soon as he
came in. Stood a short time at the top of the stairs—a
very short time. Was at the bottom of the stairs when

SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, APRIL 7, 1848.

tit
cost them from 4205. to 50s. per annum for the
cleansing of their cesspools.
The Court was then adjourned, after a sitting of
several hours.

ASSIZE INTELLIGENCE.
MIDLAND ClRCUlT.—Wancick, April 6.
THE QUEEN V. GUTTERIDGE.
(Before Chief Justice WILDE and a Special Jury.)
At the conclusion of Mr. Gutteridge's address last
night he proceeded to call witnesses to establish his alle-
gations with regard to Mr. Hodgson's want of skill in
the tying of the subclavian artery, the wounding of
which, by causing a flow of blood, caused the death of
a patient. The following witnesses were called :
Mr. Wood, sen., surgeon of the Birmingham Hospital.
—I remember an operation upon the subclavian artery
iu 1543. Mr. Hodgson and Mr. Vaux were present. I
performed the first part of the operation and Mr. Hodg-
son the latter. I should consider that the most impor-
tant part of the operation is in securing the subclavian
artery. Some hemorrhage took place after the vessel
da was tied. The patient expired on the following Thurs-
y. By dissection I discovered (in my opinion) death
was caused by a wound in the subclavian vein. I know
the present Bishop of Manchester, and recollect
shuibrajectbyof
earsaatilo:.aysrequestcnnver s a toi
of n the
relative was t e
to the operation. I told the Rev. Mr. Lee of the ope-
ration, and the cause of death was from a wound in the
suablcklavian artery, accompanied by hsemorrhage. W.
whom present. was present. lam not sure that I told Mr. Lee
ade the wound, but it was caused during the latter
I been
same tahsa tt
01N:re. Barkerwou n
d,
engaged to prepare the proceedings of the meeting
of the General Hospital for publication, and Mr. Lee.
and I believe that I stated it to Mr. Lee. Ipre-
sent at the annual meeting in was
September, 1844, and I
recollect the operation being the •
Awpßcfaaayarsl Balker. kionoepgfrit
opinion
pohohpen
subject of discussion.
The Bishop of Manchester took a prominent part in
that discussion. I have seen the report where letters
of Mr. Clarkson and Mr. Barker appear, as produced at
the meeting by Mr. Lee. [The report was handed
in.] The first throe or four lines of page 38 are
not correct. It was a large:4-tory. It was not merely
i. e. seeL book ]• I think that • " During the dressing,'
it was considerably more
thiasnnot correct, as I think
two ounce; for I
sponged the blood up, Which
but it immediately filled up. remember
a gradual oozing,
te an expression
being used at the meeting—" two
best of my recollection. I have seaeinpoothnsful, ' to the
handed me, and saw the drawing at the timee paper now
ndotsw
section (see page 29). I cannot say what I hearld f om-
Mr. Lee, but he did not speak of the information he rhad
received from me (page 40). I believe you contradicted
him in that part, and I believe you used the words now
read, " I will not allow," i. e., I believe the statement of
Mr. Ledsam to have been correct [handed in].
Cross-examined—To the best of my belief I never
heard Mr. Hodgson's opinion upon the matter till yes-
terday. It was a large nerve—the part of tho rnedicus
nerve. I should think six teaspoonsful of blood would
be an ounce.OThe slip was about three-quarters of an
inch long. Mr. Gutteridge was not at the
said .
to operation.
When the second rush of blood came IMr.
Hodgson, " Where does this blood come from ?" Ile
replied, " I suppose from some vein."
Mr. Gutteridge handed in Swan's plates of the
nerves, and the subclavian artery was pointed out by
Mr. Wood, and the artery which was included in the
ligature.
Mr. Thomas Green—l am a surgeon in Birmingham,
and have been in practice for twenty years. I remember
the operation at the General Hospital, when the sub-
clavian vein was tied. Mr. Hodgson performed the latter
part of the operation.
William James Foster—l am a schoolmaster, and live
at Bewdley. I know the Blue Coat School at Birming-
ham, and was master there for seven years up to Sep-
tember, 1847. I left in consequence of the opening
being good. I remember a particular Tuesday evening
in January, 1844; and I recollect it in consequence of
waiting upon Mr. Lee to attend a boy named Bayliss,
who was sensible to all about him. The regular clergy-
man of St. Phillips (Mr. Downes) was away, and the
other returned home, a distance of four miles from Bir-
mingham. It was past six when I went to Mr. Lee,
and I went direct to the Free School. I saw Mr. Lee in
the hall at his house. No one was present. I was
struck by Mr. Lee's manner. The unsteadiness of his
walk, and the impertinent manner in which he
spoke to me. My impression at the time was that he
was intoxicated. I delivered to him the message. The
boy being in a dying state, I thought it incumbent on
me to request the attendance of a clergyman at the boy's
bedside. 1 apologised, stating that the other clergymen
were not in the town. He said he would come; and he
asked me what time my address to the children would
take place. I told him at eight, and he said he would
come and hear me. I then returned to the school, and
Mr. Lee came about seven. I next saw him in the sick
ward, a room unconnected with the house, large, and
capable of containing three beds. When I first went into
the room Mr. Lee and the child only were there; Mr.
Lee was speaking and asking the child questions upon
religious subjects. As I entered he spoke to me, and my
impression still was that he was intoxicated; there was
a strangeness in his appearance to what I had ever seen
upon any preceding occasion, and I had been in the habit
of seeing him frequently. Mr. Lee requested the child
to repeat the confession after him, which he did, but
sometimes he could not hear the whole, and Mr. Lee was
compelled to repeat it. His voice was not distinct, and
had I not have known the words I could not have fol-
lowed. It was much unlike his usual voice, which gene-
rally was very distinct. In my opinion ho was intoxi-
cated. He did not read any portion of the Visitation of
the Sick service. Mr. Lee offered up an extempore
prayer, kneeling; part I heard, part was inaudible. The
mother was in the room at the time Mr. Lee entered. I
did not see the mother in the room; the mother was
standing on the stairs. I left, accompanied by Mr. Lee.
There had not been a chapter of the Bible read by him.
I was in advance with a candle, and still I was of opinion
he was not sober. He was slipping or stumbling going
down the stairs, and I was fearful he might tall. I
raised my arm, but it was not necessary more than in
one instance. Ile did not stumble a second time. I
raised my arm, fearing he might fall, being impressed
that he was intoxicated. We went into the matron's
room, and he then went into the dining-room.
My opinion was still unaltered. Mrs. Lee and
the matron were in the room. The supper was
delayed, because I did not wish Mr. Lee to be seen by
the children in the state in which I supposed him to be
in. fie himself asked to go into the room more than
once; and I hoped he would bo wearied with waiting,
and not go. He went in, accompanied by Mrs. Leo,
myself, and the matron. There were nearly two hun-
dred children in the room, and four assistants, two
females and two men. Supper not having been cleared
away, he remained till it was; two of the ushers were
near the door entrance—Smart was one. Mr. Lee was
at the top, or what is termed the carving-table, and I
was about to deliver my address, which I had previously
prepared. Mr. Lee stepped up and said, " Mr. Foster
will deliver the address." I had the written discourse
in my hand, and ho must have seen it; he then ad-
dressed the children on " our Saviour's first miracle,"
the subject of the day, the changing of water into
wine. I perceived the smell of his breath, and sup-
posed he had been drinking wine. When he addressed
the children, it was not in his usual manner, and
such as to strike me as objectionable. He spoke,
probably, twenty minutes, and he then knelt down
while I read the usual prayers. I and the matron ac-
companied Mr. and Mrs. Lee to the door, which was soon
after eight. I know Mr. Griffiths, a solicitor, who was at
that time chairman of the committee. I saw him the next
day, having endeavoured to do so in the morning, but
could not. I went to his office in Waterloo-street, upon
school business, which I had done frequently. I related
the circumstance to that gentleman, as nearly as I now
have done. I told him as chairman of the committee,
and not in his private capacity. I considered by telling
him I had removed all responsibility from my shoulders,
respecting irregularities in the institution. I also reported
it to the Rev. Mr. Downes, who ought to have performed
the duty, had he been in town. 1 mentioned it to him
the first time he visited the institution, some few days
after. I had conversed with Mr. Griffiths's niece that
time upon the subject. I told Mr. John Brierley Payn,
who was one of the committee.
The witness, in his cross-examination, was fixed in his
opinion that Mr. Lee was in a state of intoxication upon
the evening alluded to.
This morning the examination of witnesses for the de-
fence was resumed.

gentlemen ;" one of the party, but not the prisoner,
returned the compliment ' but the prisoner said, Do
you want to fight ?" Roper said, ".No ; he would
rather run than fight." The prisoner then struck
Roper's hat off. Roper put it on again. The prisoner
then came towards him, and Roper thrust his hand out
at him to keep him back. The prisoner then turned
round all at once, and stabbed Roper in the left breast.
Roper caught him, and tried to take the handle of the
knife from his hand, for the blade was left sticking in
Roper's breast, Roper drew out the blade, and then he
dropped on the ground, but he still held the prisoner.
Roper called out " Murder!" and the prisoner tried to
get away, dragging him 30 or 40 yards. He then
caught Roper by the throat with one hand, and held the
other hand over his mouth. A man of the name of Car.
ter came up, and Roper gave the prisoner into his cus-
tody, telling Carter that the prisoner- had stabbed him,
and he hoped justice 'would be done him, as he did not
expect he should live many minutes. A surgeon was
called up, who examined and dressed the wound, and
Roper was taken to his home. He was confined to his
bed for a fortnight, and to his house for five weeks. The
prisoner was a perfect stranger to Roper. The surgeon
stated that the wound was dangerous. Upon undressing
Roper he found another wound in his side. The prose-
cutor's story was corroborated by the man and the
woman who were with him.
On behalf of the prisoner, his brother, who was one
of the party, was called, and he stated that he was
standing with his brother at the door of his lodgings
that night. Roper and another man and a woman came
up. Roper asked the prisoner if he would run for a
quart of ale? The prisoner said he was not in running
order after his week's work. The prisoner then went
inside the door, and Roper caught hold of him and
dragged him out and struck him, and then witness
struck Roper.. The coinpanioll.of ItopiPilien attacked
witness aad knocked him down,. which ihim sense-
less on the ground for two hours. At the commence.
ment of the affray the woman who was with Roper told
him to draw his knife and run the Irishman through.:The
witness said he was so much injured that he had been
confined to his bed for a fortnight, but he did not em-
ploy a medical man because he had no money.- In his
cross-examination the witness admitted that he had
been at the magistrate's office die niorning after the
affray.

---
Mr. Lee and the master came down. They were side by
side. Mr. Lee asked her if she was the mother. She
said that she was. Mr. Lee told her to make herself
contented, for he would not be here long. She said no-
thing. There was not much light on the stairs, She
saw them, though, quite plain. Couldn't scarcely under-
stand him (Mr. Lee) when he spoke. Didn't know him.
He was thick in his talk. As they came down stairs
Mr. Foster took hold of Mr. Lee's shoulder, and told
him to take care. She then returned to the room where
her child was.
Cross-examined by Mr. WHITEHURST—Was sure that
Mrs. Foster brought Mr. Lee in. Had not said that Mr.
Foster came up too. Never said so to Mr. Griffiths. It
was so long ago she could hardly remember. She had
talked to Mr. Griffiths. Did not remember ever saying
so to him. If she did say so she couldn't think how.
Was very much vexed at being turned out. Did not sob
or cry. Did shed a few tears at the top of the stairs.
Nor did her daughter sob or cry. She did in the kitchen.
The matron did not stop with her a moment.
Re-examined—When she came out of the room she
made a remark about Mr. Lee.
The defendant (to Mr. Whitehurst)—Will you not
ask what it was?
Mr. WHITEHURST—NO, not I.
Clara Walker was the senior teacher at the Bluecoat
School. Had been so for upwards of eight years. Saw
Mr. Lee in the dining-room. Supper was not quite
over, she thought. Had frequently seen Mr. Lee before.
There was something particular that evening. He was
remarkably excited. She was not capable of judging
whether or not he was sober. He spoke to her. He said
that when the funds of the institution were better, he
thought that sbe should have further help. He spoke in
a freer and pleasanter manner to her than usual. That
was her impression—a more familiar manner. She did
not notice Mrs. Lee's manner. She appeared rather
timid. Had not been in the habit of seeing gentle-
men not sober, and therefore she thought something was
the matter.
The Rev. John Downes was at the time curate of St.
Philip's, Birmingham. Heard from Mr. Foster that
during his absence he had been wanted by him to visit a
boy. Was on the committee of that school. Was chair-
man of the School and Education Committee.
Cross-examined—Could not say whether or not Mr.
Foster said that he had come first to his house. Had
often ordered the relative out of the room under such
circumstances.
By the foreman of the jury—There was no evening
service at St. Philip's at that time.
John Brierly Payn—Was chief constable of Bir-
mingham; appointed in March, 1843, on the Managing
Committee of the Bluecoat School. Mr. Foster told
him that Mr. Lee had come to the school in a state of
intoxication. Foster told him the story in consequence
of his asking him .as to Mr. Lee's treatment of him.
On account of Mr. Lee's having talked to witness about
him, witness asked him " what it was that Mr. Lee
knew of him that he did not, as he was certain there
must be something, or Mr. Lee could never show so
much anxiety to get rid of him?" Foster said that
there was nothing to his knowledge. Witness said that
he was sure there was, and unless he knew what it was
.he should abandon his interest in him. Foster then told
him that it was nothing that Mr. Lee knew of him but
what he knew of Mr. Lee, and then he told him all
..
about
it. Witness said that. 11: ought to have mentioned it to
the committee. Ilesaid that he had mentioned it to
Mr. Griffiths.
The Hon. and Rev
gad conversed
Yorke was the rector
of St. Philip's,
with Mr. Foster
relative to the Bishop
1846. Had seen the Manchester. This was in
Lee. to to Lord Calthorpe
reflecting upon Mr.
with Mr. Foster. Believin thaposversed upon it
o must be some
mistake, he called upon Ifr. thereFostert cootncloradictit.
He refused to do so, saying that he could n
o
truth, and witness inquired into the grounds. sFowiunticil
that he had formed that opinion on two distinct facts—
certain indistinctness, and a false step in coming down
stairs. Mr. Foster said that Mr. Lee addressed the
children " beautifully, as Mr. Lee did everything of that
kind." Witness was elected a governor of King Ed-
ward's School in 1845. Was struck with the passage
pointed out, as it referred to a particular friend's con-
duct. Wrote this letter. Was bailiff of the school at_
the time for that year—that was, chairman. They
thought that any inquiry was unnecessary. Couldn't
exactly say whether or not he read this (the letter to
Lord Calthorpe) through. He believed that when he
saw the name he tossed it on one side.—(Laughter.)
The Bishop had done duty at witness's church three
times. Had frequently asked him.
Cross-examined—He did not accede to his request.
He was always unwilling to officiate. Looked upon the
charge as coming from a quarter needing no answer.
Had had constant opportunities of seeing Mr. Lee's
habits. No man of his acquaintance was so little liable
to the charge that had been made against the Bishop.
Never saw the slightest grounds for such an imputation.
Asked him to officiate in his church for the express
purpose of showing his disbelief in the charges. Was
elected a committeeman of the Bluecoat School in 1845.
This was the resolution of the committee of the Blue-
coat School when Mr. Lee was made a bishop.
Anne Elliott—(This witness immediately asked,
" Who was to pay her expenses?" and declined to
answer until she was paid. She had received 1/. The
officer of the court accordingly stated that she was to
have two more, which were paid.) Usually attended
Bishop Ryder's church. Had seen Mr. Lee frequently.
(Here the witness's husband, standing by her, was
seized with epilepsy, and she was therefore allowed to go
out with him and the surgeons).
Edward H. Fresher was a schoolmaster in the na-
tional schools of St. Thomas. Had resided previously
at Droitwich. Came over to Birmingham as a candi-
date for the school of St. Philip's. Was at Rishop
Ryder's church on the evening in question. Heard Mr.
Lee read the prayers. Had seen him before. lie ad-
dressed a meeting at the school of Bishop .Ryder's
church on that occasion. Never saw him before that
time except once casually. He appeared nervous that
evening, and indistinct in his utterance. Formed no
opinion at the time. Was rather astonished, as he
spoke so clearly the other time. The appearances
were like intoxication. Imagined the appearances were
so because he heard the defendant make the charge at
the public meeting. Had now an opinion that it was
intoxication.
Anne Elliott (examination resumed)—Could see
Mr. Lee clearly. Thought that he read monotously,
without emphasis, and in a very sleepy tone. Did not
know what to think. If it had been any one else but
Mr. Lee, should have thought him slightly intoxicated.
Cross-examined.—First thought that at the time.
Could not harbour the opinion that he was really in-
toxicated for a moment.
Edwin Cottell—Lived at Birmingham. Attended
Bishop Ryder's church. Considered Mr. Lee's reading
very "incoherent." His impression at the time was
that the gentleman was drunk. Recollected relating
the thing to one of the congregation. Mr. Lee attempted
to read that portion of the service which related to the
churching of women, or else he gave notice of it, witness
had forgotten which, and then skipped into something
else.
,He either gave notice or read a portion of it.
There was a general sensation in the church. The
people looked at each other and moved their heads.
This was caused by Mr. Lee's conduct. It made an im-
pression on his mind.
Cross-examined—Attended Mr. Gutteridge's meeting
at the Town-hall.
Thomas Rollison was churchwarden of Bishop's
Ryder's church.—(This witness was here taken ill, and
attended by Mr. Hodgson. The Court adjourned for
about half-an-hour. The witness appeared again some-
what revived.)—Was on the occasion in question
in the vestry. There saw Mr. Lee and the curate.
Was not sure that notice of churching was given. Was
present at the service. Saw Mr. Lee. Paid attention
to his manners. He was rather nervous, and possibly a
little agitated. There was a want of clearness in his
enunciation. The churching service ought to have been
read. Thanksgiving was returned. Specially in the
General Thanksgiving, the words "particularly to her,"
&c. were used. The churching service was not
commenced. "My opinion is that Mr. Lee was
sober." I had no opinion at all about it at
the time. My impression was that Mr. Lee read the
service imperfectly, but I could not attribute it to any
cause other than exhaustion or something to that
effect. Saw Mr. Moore in the vestry after service.
Made no remark to him. Did on the following day or
on the Tuesday, witness didn't know which. Perfectly
recollects the circumstances, and nothing was said to
Mr. Moore about Mr. Lee on the evening in question
before service. Could not have said anything then and
forgotten it since. Could not recollect making any ob-
servation on Mr. Lee after service that evening.
The defendant here stated to the Court that he
required the evidence of a professional man, which was
of the utmost importance to him. That gentleman sas
now engaged in a medical consultation ; he, therefore,
wished to have his evidence taken to-morrow (Friday),
allowing the counsel for the prosecution to reply
immediately with a special reply on the additional
evidence.
The Loan CHIEF JUSTICE stated his inability to
comply with this request. The time of the country
must be taken into consideration ; besides which,
counsel would labour under great difficulty in making a
reply on half a case.
Mr. Gutteridge had concluded that the case would go
on into tomorrow (Friday) in any case. He had actually
paid the expenses of the witness in question.
The LORD CHIEF JUSTICE—After having been s_ub-
poinaed, in the fourth day of the case it was an insult to
the Court for him to say that he was detained by a con-
sultation. It should have been put off.
The defendant's case was then, at about three o'clock,
concluded, and
Mr. WHITEHURST proceeded at once with his
amiable
and sister of the defendant, a lady of
and most intelligent appearance, sat by his side, and
e
m side,
acted as a junior counsel, patiently assisting him
throughout the whole of this very long trial. The lady
seemed perfectly conversant with all the features of and
documents connected-with the case.
HALF-PAST SIX O'CLOCK.
The Learned JUDGE is still continuing, though seem-
ingly about concluding, his summing up. Having gone
through the whole of the evidence, his Lordship is
making observations upon the general bearing of the
whole evidence, and drawing the attention of the jury to
the several pleas on the record.

The jury found the priioner " Guilty of stabbing, with
intent to do grievoui btidily harm," and he was sentenced
to be transported for fourteen years.
William Green was indicted for uttering a forged note,
purporting to be that of the North Wilts Banking Com-
pany, on the 12th of November last, at Bath.
Mr. Phinn was counsel for the prosecution; and Mr.
Stone defended the prisoner.
The prisoner was a bookseller and newsagent at Bir-
mingham. It appeared that on the 12th of November
last, about ten o'clock in the morning, the prisoner
went to the shop of a Mr. Butcher, a grocer at Bath,
and ordered a pound of 4s. 6d. tea; this being given
him he offered a 51. note of the North Wilts Banking
Company in payment. The change was given to him,
and he left the shop. In about an hour after
this the prisoner went to the shop of a Mr. Lewis,
and there he bought a railway wrapper, the
price of which was 145.; he offered a 5/. note, purport-
ing to be one of the North Wilts Banking Company, in
payment, and said he was anxious to have change as he
had two sovereigns to pay to a person who was outside.
From some cause or other Mr. Lewis suspected that all
was not right, and he asked the prisoner to wait while
he got change. Mr. Lewis then went to the bank, and
upon inspecting the note it was discovered to be a for-
gery. Mr. Lewis returned to his shop and found the
prisoner standing at the door. He engaged him in con-
versation till an officer came, and he then gave the pri-
soner into custody. He was searched, and a parcel
dropped from his flannel drawers, which was found to
contain nine notes exactly similar to those he had pro-
duced at the shops of Mr. Butcher and Mr. Lewis. He
had 221. in gold and some silver. The notes were
forged, but were certainly as good forgeries as were
ever seen.

The prisoner was found Guilty and sentenced to
,welve years' transportation.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
OLD COURT.
found
STABBING,_
ING .--Benr Parker, a tailor, aged 26, was
young womanof dangerously wounding Mary Ritchie, a
h had d for me
time, and by whom she wase in thecohabite family way atsothe
time. The case must be fresh in the recollection of our
readers. The woman had left him, and gone to her
mother, and because she would not come to him when
he came for her to her mother's house, although he
had previously told her he would see her no more, he
rusbod into the room, when he stabbed her several
times, and then similarly assaulted her mother.
The prisoner was found Guilty.—Sentence was de-
ferred.

THE CHARGE AGAINST LORD KINGSTON.--At five
o'clock in the evening the grand jury at the Central Cri-
minal Court ignored the bill charging the defendant
with indecently assaulting:George Cull, on Friday last.

NEW COURT.
(Before the RECORDER.)
Andrew Green alias Henry Arnold Green, 52, de-
scribed as a surgeon, but who is better know as Dr.
Green, was arrainged upon several indictments for felony
and misdemeanour.
Mr. Clarkson and Mr. Ballantine prosecuted; Mr.
Prendergast appeared for the defendant.
The particulars of the various charges of swindling
and fraud against this person have been so fully detailed
in the police reports that it will be unnecessary to give
the evidence at any length on the, present occasion.
The first case gone into was that of Mr. Dobbs, a
hosier, in Princes-street, from whom the defendant had
obtained a quantity of articles; but as it appeared that
they had been delivered at different times, and that to
some extent credit had been given, although there was
no (doubt of the prisoner's fraudulent intention, the
Court ruled that the charge of larcency could not be
sustained, and a verdict of Not Guilty was therefore re-
turned.
The prisoner was then charged with stealing some
silver money belonging to the servant of a coffee-house
in Drury-lane, where he was lodging.
The jury, after hearing the evidence, returned a ver-
dict of Guilty.
He was then charged, upon a third indictment, with
obtaining money by false pretences from M. Soyer, the
celebrated chef de cuisine of the Reform Club.
In this case it appeared that the defendant had intro-
duced himself to M. Soyer by a pretence that he wished
to have the advertisement of a work upon cookery,
which that gentleman had just published, for a paper of
which he was the manager, and in the course of con-
versation hearing that M. Soyer was about to send an
advertisement to the Times, he said that his own
printing-office was close to Printing-house square, and
he volunteered to take the advertisement, and M. Soyer
gave him a sovereign to pay for it. The prisoner
went to the Times office after business hours, and
took the advertisement into the printing-office, and said
he had brought it from M. Soyer, who was anxious to
have it inserted the next morning, but he could not pay
for it, as M. Soyer had given him a bad sovereign. He
was told that the advertisement should be inserted, and
the next day the prisoner had the impudence to call
upon the prosecutor and tell him that the sovereign he
had given him was a bad one, but he had paid for the
advertisement out of his own pocket, and M. Soyer then
gave him another, and very soon afterwards received a
satisfactory intimation of his having been victimised,
by having to pay another sovereign for the advertise-
ment that had been inserted under the circumstances
mentioned.
The jury returned a verdict of Guilty,
And the RECORDER sentenced the defendant to 18
months' imprisonment.
There were several other charges of swindling against
the prisoner.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
SIR,--With reference to a paragraph which appeared
in The Sun of Monday last, announcing the lamented
decease of Mr. Burke, sen., one of the authors' of
" The Peerage," permit me to state that, in consequence
of that gentleman's ill health, "The Peerage' and
" Landed Gentry" have been, for several years, con-
ducted by his son, Mr. John Bernard Burke, of the
Middle Temple, the present editor.
I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
HENRY COLBURN.
13, Great Marlborough-street, April 6, 1848.

WESTERN CIRCUIT .—Taunton, April 5.
CROWN COURT.—(Before Mr. Justice WicuTmAN.)
John Tynen was indicted for maliciously stabbing and
wounding Benjamin Roper at Frome Selwood, with the
usual intents.
Mr. Bagley was counsel for the prosecution, and Mr.
Edwards for the prisoner.
It appeared that Roper was a spinner living at Frome.
On the night of the 23d of August he was at the Black
Swan public-house with Fanny Viner and another per-
son. He left about twelve o'clock, and came up to the
prisoner_ and two others. Roper said, Good night,

DEATH OF SIR THOMAS BARING, BART. - This
venerable and much respccted Baronet, whose name has
been so well esteemed in commercial circles, expired on

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ROYAL ARTILLERY, WOOLVVICEI, APRIL 5.--The
formation of the two additional companies to each of
the ten battalions of the Royal Artillery has been fixed
for Thursday next, the 13th instant; and the commis-
sions of the officers who will be promoted by the aug-
mentation are to be dated the 10th instant. Captain
Mitchell's company, 10th battalion, left the garrison
here on Monday morning fur Chester, Tynemouth, and
Carlisle, to relieve Major Robe's company, 2d battalion,
and the relieved detachment from Chester joined the
garrison yesterday evening; the others from Tynemouth
and Carlisle, will arrive on Friday. It is reported, but
not officially, or with a certainty of its being correct,
that one of the two companies just arrived from the
West Indies, in the Apollo troop ship, is ordered to
land at Plymouth, to do duty there, and that the pre-
sent company at that station will proceed to Ireland.
The companies returned from the West Indies are Cap-
tain Savage's, Ist battalion, and Captain Fisher's, 6th
battalion, the former from Barbadoes, and the latter
from Jamaica, where they have been stationed since
November, 1843. Captain Ormsby's company, 6th
battalion, and Captain Crofton's, 7th battalion, are to be
relieved during the present year; the former from Mon-
treal, and the latter from Kingston, Canada, where they
4ve been etzttioned dace the 10th of June, 1843.