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GAME CERTIFICATES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Mr. G. 1314:;RKELEY moved the insertion of a clause,
for the purpose of enabling the police to take into custody'
suspicious persons, who had game in their possession.
The clause was rejected without a division.
The Box. MEMBER then moved the insertion of a
clause, specifying, the periods when it was legal, and
when illegal, to sell game.
This clause was also rtjected by the House without s
division.
'The preamble of the Bill was then agreed to, and the
report ordered to be brought up to-morrow.
SCHOOLMASTERS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Mr. sS. COCHRANE said, as he understood a num-
ber of Scotch Members were opposed to this Bill, he
would consent to withdraw it.

The Bill was accordingly withdrawn.
PLACES OF WORSHIP SITES (SCOTLAND)
BILL.
On the motion being put for going into Committee
on this Bill,
Mr. COCHRANE moved an amendment that the Bill
be read that day six months. He raid there were no
real substantial grounds for the measure, because it was
a positive Net that the number of sites which bad been
refused for churches belonging to the Free Church was
only twenty-nine, while as many as 600 sites bad been
granted. The Free Church distinctly avowed that its
intention was to overthrow the Established Church of
Scotland, and it now asked the House to
cotnpel parties who conscientiously differed from its
tenets to give land for churches, a proceeding which
would have the effect of creating dissension and misery
in the different parishes. He wished to show no dis-
respect to the Presbyterians of Scotland, but he repro-
bated the conduct of the Free Church adherents, who
on every public occasion endeavoured to excite dis-
sension among the people. and ho concluded by ex-
pressing his sincere wish that the House would throw
out the measure.
Mr. F. MAULE, in reference to an article which the
[lon. Member had read in the course of his speech
from the Witness newspaper, distir.clly denied that that
paper was the organ of the Free Church, although it
was edited by a member of that body. He said the
Hon. Gentleman was entirely ignorant of the real
grounds which existed in Scotland for the measure, and
he could assure the House that no body of persons were
more attentive to the law, and more anxious to disiemi-
nate religious knowledge, and to establish the prin-
ciple of good order, than were the members of the Free
Church. If they went into a discussion of the question
he hoped they would not be led to do so in any tone of
irritation, but discuss it in the same rational and tem-
perate manner which attended the consideration of the
matter upon a previous occasion. Should the House pass
the measure, they would confer upon the country a
great benefit ; but, if they rejected it, a number of
grievances affecting that large body would be suffered

to remain.
Lord DRUMLANRIG said he was prepared to give
his support to this Bill.
Mr. M. MILNES said the Bill would have the effect
of introducing a principle of a perfectly novel character
into their legislation. Looking at the immense amount
of influence which Dissenters in this country possessed,
he did not consider the House was justified in giving
such a right to one religious body in Scotland without
conferring the same right upon the different religious
bodies in England. The Wesleyans were at one time as
much, if not more persecuted than the Free Church,
but they eventually overcame all difficulties, and now
maintained a position which they still continued to hold.
Mr. OSWALD objected to the measure, which he said
had the effect, of applying a national remedy to evils of
a local and temporary nature.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM regretted to be again called
upon to enter into a discussion upon this important
subject, but he could not express his views upon the
merits of this Bill without expressing much sorrow
that his Hon. Friend the Member for Bridport should
have felt himself at liberty to mix up the
character of eminent Scottish divines with this
distressing question. For his own parr, he knew from
experience that two of ;these distinguished divines were
as remarkable for their Christian feelings and forbear-
ance as for their piety and learning, and he therefore
regretted that his Hon. Friend should have felt it ne-
cessary te: impugn the motives which had induced them
to take the part of the Free Church. Leaving that part
of the subject, he was anxious to enter upon
the discussion of the general question in a con-
ciliatory spirit, and without reference to the feelings
which had actuated the proceedings of one party or
the other. Now he doubted very much whether the
adverse spirit towards the Free Church was so very
general in Scotland as some Hon. Members seemed to
imagine. Indeed landholders generally, both in Scot-
land and Ireland, were anxious that places of worship
should be established on their estates. In Ireland there
certainly was no difficulty in obtaining sites for that pur-
pose, and he much doubted whether obstacles in Scotland
were so great as had been represented, for, if he were
not mistaken, within the last five years 725 churches
had been built for this very Free Church.—(Hear,
hear.) 'The Right Hon. the Secretary at War had di-
rected the attention of the House to the fact, that the
Duke of Buccleuch had refused to grant sites upon
his property. Now, he had long been on terms of
private friendship with that nouleman, while he had
more than once been politically associated with him, and
he could assure the House that a butterin, more worthy
man did not exist. Anything he could say upon that
point would, fall far short of the benevolent cha-
racter which the meanest peasant on his estate would
give him ; but men was but man after all, and
an isolated act of one individual could not be a sufficient
justification for the passing of a measure like this. But
he denied that the Duke of Buccleuch had been guilty
of the oppression that had been laid to his charge;
and he denied most positively that a cast had been
made out for resorting to legislation upon this sub-
ject. lie would not, however, pretend to deny that
it might be far different in individual instances
of oppression, but then he maintained that such
cases ought to be brought separately before the
Legislature, and if it were only upon that ground
alone he must object to the passing of this
general measure, restin,-.; as it did upon a general princi-
ple and applicable to all parts of the United Kingdom.—
(Hear, hear.) On the e hole he thought it much better
to leave this matter to be settled amongst the parties
themselves than by resorting to legislation, and he must
be allowed to tender that opinionl as his excuse for op-
posing the further progress of the Bill.
Mr. SCOTT said he was opposed to the principle of
the Bill, but if the House determined on carrying it into
Committee, he should support the amendmentof the Hon.
Member for Roxburghshire. The Hon. Meniber then
proceeded at some length to defend the conduct of the
Duke of Buccleuch, and contended that in the two cases
where his Grace had refused to grant sitesihe was per-
fectly justified in doing so. He was, however,
in a position to state, that had this Bill never
been brought forward, not only in those two cases,
but in every case where a refusal had been met with,
the sites would long ago have been granted, and the
animosities which had so long divided the two
parties would have been very greatly reduced.
The Hon. Member, then proceeded to defend the Duke
of Buccleuch against the charges that bad been made
against him of turning off his estates several tenantspe-
cause they belonged to the Free Church, and concluded
by stating his intention to oppose the further, proceeding
with the Bill.
Mr. HUME supported the Bill, because he thought it
would be productive of peace and
good will in Scotland.
He was as adverse as any one to the interference with
private property, but he thought it necessary to legislate
upon the subject.
Mr. R. SVOONER objected to the further progress
of the Bill, although he had voted for its second
reading.
After some observations from Mr. MACKENZIE,
Mr. CHRISTOPHER thought they ought not to go
to a division upon this Bill without hearing what course
,he Government intended to pursue with respect to the

13111.
Sir G. GREY said he should vote against the amend-
ment of the Hon. Member tor Bridport and for the mo-
tion of the Hon. Member for Roxbarglkhire, for reasons
which he should state when the House went into Com-
mittee on the Bill.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For going into Committee B4
Against it 59
Majority for going into Committee —25
The House then went into Committee pro forma on
the Bill.
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained
leave to sit again.
The House then resumed.
BOROUGH ELECTIONS BILL.
On the question that the Committee on the Borough
_
Elections Bill be postponed, after some short discussion,
Colonel SIBTIIORP gave notice that when the Bill
was again brought forward he should move that the
City of London should be included in its provisions.
Thethconthoeurseordersot.
adjournedthaet daysix ow,•ceir(e then disposed of,
and ci{.

RAILWAY COMM"
(THIS DAY.)

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EURNEsS. JUNCTlON.—Preamble
GROUP No. I.—Youa, NEWCASTLE, AND BERWICK.
—Preamble proved, clauses agreed to, and Bill ordered
to be reported.
BUXTON, AND
proved,
WHITEHA.VEN JUNCTloN.—Preamble proved, clauses
agreed to, and Bill reported., . _
WriliTcElailuAsvertligrAeNeDd to, and Bill reported.
NORTHERN COUNTlEs.—lividency taken• in favour of
this company's amendment and deviation Bill.
MAT-
LocK.—The opposition of the Manchester, Sheffield, and
Lincolnshire Company against the above company's de-
viation Bill was heard.
GROUP No. 5.-----Zw.IEWPoRT AND, PONTYPOOL—Case
GROUP No. 3.—MANCUESTER,
and opposition to this company
s Bill for purchasing
the Monmouthshire canals closed. Decision postponed.
GROUP No. 7.—GREAT WESTERN OF BENGAL.—
Bill withdrawn.
RoySTEN AND lIITcu
thm—Oposition f
0. the Easte
Counties Company to e Hitc phin and Cambridge Ex-
rn
tension Bill heard.
GROUP No. B.—ExETErt AND COWLEV•BRIDGE
JUNCTlON.—Evidence taken in favour of this Bill.
LONDON AND SOUTH-WESTERN (TAW VALE PUR-
CHASE BlLL.)—Opposition of the Bristol and Exeter
Company heard.
GROUP No. 10.—SCoTTISH CENTRAL—Evidence
taken in favour of the leasing of this lino to the Cale-
donian, Lancaster, and Carlisle, and London and North
Western Companies.
GROUP No. 11.—EDINnunun AND (II
...LASGOIV, AND
GLASGOW, AIRDRIE, AND MONKLANDS JUNCTION.—
Clauses agreed to, and Bill ordered to be reported.
EDINBURGII AND BATIIGATE.—The object of the
Bill is to enable the above company to extend their
Whitburn Branch to the Benhar colleries, and make a