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uninvestigated claim. The object of that determination
has been that individual Members may not be influenced—•
that they may not rashly vote away the money of the
people to parties who by means of great exertion, active
canvassing, and constant representation of facts more or less
accurate, have acquired an influence over the minds of Mon-
bers;and who persuade them to vote away the publie money.
And, Sir, this House has laid down a wise rule, and I am
not quite prepared to get rid of it by a sidewind
When the case was submitted to the predecessors in the office
that I hold, and when it had been submitted to me also, we
each of us, acting under a sense of our public dutyWL"
proceeding.
is not to recommend to Parliament to make a grant of Mal
unless we are satisfied that the grounds on which the claim
is made are just—have refused to assent to the petition to
this House, praying for the granting of these _.
And upon the same principle, I will not No',
lingly consent that the Crown should be Ole!"
in the situation of having an address presented to it,:
when the Crown has not been advised to recommend to par
!lament the payment of these claims. Sir, this is a very dar
gerous experiment. It is, in fact, virtually getting rid of te
control which the House has established for the pall
of preventing an undue expenditure of the public money.
is truly a dangerous experiment, because it would not put
limit to the extent to which these claims may go.—(H r')
If during the war with Denmark you are prepared to give
the sufferers by that war the sum of 250,0004 or a guar, toe
of a million of money, because the country with wile
you were at war did not make certain regulations as to the
capture during the war, there is no telling to what exte.ol'
these claims may now, and at future times be Inaoaoed
for if the principle of this grant of money is g
with regard to Denmark, the principle is good vn„,.,
respect to every country with which you may be at lg.-,
whatever their position may be, and however ample the',
means as to trade; and I say, therefore, that it is the dutfre
those who have any care for the mode in which the Plifsiu
money is to be expended, to oppose this first step,whieb s"
introduce this new principle that you are to indemnify Y°
own subjects for losses at sea during a war betweeot
this and any other nation. Sir, observe I am roe
here standing up to defend the rights of
people
of I am defending the rights of the Peulie
of this country generally. You tell me there is justice in
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claims of these individuals whose property has been sin.
ficed at sea, and that these merchants who have lost tar,
fo
•ships and cargoes during the war have sustained a loss
which you are bound to show them commisseratit
and to make them some compensation. Sir, whether itr.
inv right or wrong, captures at sea during war are the ".,t
riable practice of nations, and that, as a totally differ:7e
question from captures on land, is not the question now 11°
the House.

COMMONS' SUMMARY.
The Commons met at Twelve o'clock, and after the
transaction of a great deal of private business,
Mr. HAWES rose to meve that the House do resolve
itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider
an Address to her MAJESTY on the subject of the Dani°
claims.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER felt bound, not-
withstanding the decision to which the House had coma
in April, to oppose the motion. He did this under
circumstances of peculiar difficulty, for on every necilci
non some new argument had been broached ;
on the last occasion the Hon. Gentleman, in his rep7o:l
had argued that the convention in September had ea
the declaration of war of August, but that argnefa
fell to the ground when it was recollected
only three days after the execution of that convel°„,
the Danish Government had issued rules for the e°-,1
duct of the war with Great Britain. The House biiv
wisely laid down a rule not to vote any grant of letie;
except at the recommendation of the Ministers of :is
Crown, and he could not consent to the getting rid of t'its
rule by a side wind. It was setting a most danger°be
precedent, and if the principle now sought to
to
established were once acknowledged, it would 104:
the indemnification by the nation of every finer ft
who, during any future war, might suffer loss ""/
captures at sea, which would impose upon eye-re
class of the community a heavy burden for the
benefit of one class. The principle equally 01)Pgn-ets
whether the war was just or unjust. These toerel37,oo
accords- 0
had suffered from captures made in strict
with the law of nations, and it was most unjust to ce°3ol
upon the tax-payers of this country now and ask theca
to bear the burden which would be imposed upon the 0
if these claims were admitted. The declaration of war
the part of Denmark took place previous to these captor
viz., on the 15th of August, 1807. Now, Great Britilin.ag
never made any declaration of war except by iss ul
letters of marque—Great Britain never issues a declaro
Lion of war until all the means of pacification ar
exhausted. In 1812 America declared war in June,
l
and England did not declare war until septeinher
t:
and yet the captures made
during til
interval were considered as legal capture
The Right Hon. Gentleman then proceeded to descrtre,
the circumstances under which the captures were Mead
and which have been already frequently described, 1%
concluded by declaring his determination to oppose tP
motion.

Mr. HAWES denied that there had been
declaration of war previous to:;the captures, It
even had there been such a declaration, that /11".
rendered entirely nugatory by the subsequent convex'
Lion by which amicable relations had been restore'
Besides, the Government had acknowledged the er
istence of these claims by appointing a Commission t°
inquire into their nature and extent, and that Conoeir
sion having reported that claims to the menet :
225,0001. had been made out, it was not right that h
Government should repudiate the decision of their ow;
Commissioners. The claims were founded in equith.ll_,„
he appealed to the justice of that House to Make
good.
Mr. CARDWELL contended that the existence
eof wetre
between the two nations at the time the PaPtures w
made was proved by the existence of hostilities, and that
no declaration of war was necessary. Under thiese circa;
stances, the captures were legal captures, and there w
no foundation for these claims.
tea
Colonel SIBTHORP supported the motion, and --ee
the
on the absence of the Attorney-General and e_44
Solicitor-General, who had, when out of office, vor'',
favour of the claims, but who now absented theras°
from the division.

The House then divided, when there appeared--
For going into Committee
Against it ,, 85

Majority
(LEFT SITTING.)

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Master'
Monday last, being Trinity Monday, the --- „OA
of the Trinity House, in accordance to Smcient
..,,i, for
assembled at ten o'clock, at their official residence. Tower-w-
pit'
the purpose of visiting Deptford. Froth their residence t,,lpti/O!
ceeded to the Tower, where they were joined by his Grace til d taa'
of Wellington, who, in his capacity as one of the brother 3 en-. 00
fen
their Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports, accompanied the - vastee „a
'en
their annual visit. His Grace- arrived at the Tower 4.. " tu"
o'clock, and was received by a guard of honour formed ffOra 1$
d -
Coldstream Guards. The procession then formed, and proceed env
due order to the water over the moat-bridge, when the,_P'-f„, , the
barked. After visiting the places required by the cu,a-&itirc''
masters and brothers attended Divine Service at the olu_er, re,
Deptford. The Corporation, with the exception of the 1117; eseir
turned to London in their state shallops. The banquet In___lllcelice.
ing, at the Trinity House, was prepared with groat raula'-_,,, Grace'
Covers were laid for 82. The master presided. Besides P.: Douro'
there Were present the Marquis Camden, Marquis 0' collet
Earl of Haddington, Earl of Dalhousie, Earl of :loan.
bury, Earl of Ellenborough, Lord G. Somerset, ' 1/10
Melbourne, Viscount Melville, Viscount Canning, tl2„efain the
Hon. Sidney Herbert, Captain the Hon. S. T. Carnegie, ,_l`-faiallia
Hon. J. H. Rous, R.N. ; Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel,'Sir 0..„. r„"illoda
Right Hon. Sir George Clerk, Right Hon. H. Goulburn, Itlf,olnir
H. T. Corry, Right Hon. S., R. Lushington, Right Hon. Dr. 'A WO'
ton, Right Hon. W. E. Gladstone, Right Hon. Sir T. Fremanal`t , slf
T. L. Melvin.. Hon. Henry Fitzroy, Sir Thomas Neave, /If,. j, A.
Jos. Barrow, Bart., Admiral Sir Byam Martin, Admiral '''',Derlal
Gordon, Admiral Bowles, Sir Charles Adam, Lieutenant-GmicOe'
Sir H. Douglas, Lieutenant-Colonel Astell, Lieut.-Colonel -,' gel.
thwait, Major Elrington, Captain Beaufort, R.N., Rev. IlTrYchsp-
ville, Mr. Anson, Mr. Baring, M.P., Mr. Cardwell, M.P., N!' Fos-
man, Mr. Cripps, M.P., Mr. W. W. Cotton, Mr. Dean, Nr.„, yr.
day, Mr. Hogg, M.P., Mr. King, Mr. Lefevre, Mr. MaGred?owen,
Neville, M.P., Mr. Pelly, Mr. it. Pelly, Mr. C. Pelly, M. 1-„,,nes,
Mr. W. R. Robinson, Mr. G. R. Robinson, Mr. Sampson, KT* fir, J.
Mr. Tooke, Mr. Turner, Mr. Walker, Mr. Wigram, end. _ were
Young, M.P. The following noblemen and gentlemen, Trn°_„,eotB
also invited to the banquet, were prevented by other englaS'A' sit
from attending :-Marquis of Bute, Earl of Minto, Major-Generaa
H. Wheatley, Colonel Allan, C. 8., and Mr. Heath. • for'
Mr. Waghorn left London on Monday evening
.. oft.
Ellenborough and St. Germans, and Mr.
vacatedUredthb
Aden, vid Trieste. We understand that SiGrlitadosbteorneteyi,,
' enael'ir tehee each ''''t;
i
services.
t Montaubanwith his ta..*
de Bouffe
warded their subscription in aid of the testimonial to Mr. Waging.
Marquis and the Marchionycss
The Prince Louis Napoleon
pally at dinner on last.Setwuredaun
understand, has given the suite Cif
Her Majesty, we
apartments in St•
aJt
i,
e i to the Marchiouess Welle,si -ta.s“--'
chioness of Wesetmm. Orneeehnotlnyo
possession_ of til
THE MARYLEBON CLUB T-f, 01%
UR/ca.ET.-- E v. CAmßil..- - ~
irir.-The match was resumed yesterdayrd, vflo-
-
again some admirable at Lo 0, As
there ~,,,~,,
already stated, the University had the advantage 70 ranB' • i
their second innings to-day the whole score by
_..,441
in the M. C. C. for 138 to tie. The was 68, therefore_Ffrio
University, however, we",,,,.
match, for the score of the Club was 94 in this innings, by 44 ru .—A.$
MEANS OF RESUSCITATION AFTER IMMEBSION
an inquest held yesterday before on the Owe
William Carter, Esq.,
of a man who died from drowning,directions 611
several important
_, mentioned by Mr. Joseph Franklin Rose, surgeon, residing a' 0 to
60, Starnford•street, Biackfr:
'ars-road ' to the me Dee ,in reference
be adopted in certain cases of drowning. lie stated that he had, 0,
appointed surgeon for that district several years by the BO 4 ,ce 0;
mane Society, which duty he had that day resigned in consequ e!,;:oulo
the absurd and improper directions issued by the society. Ile
1,,,er 0
mention one rule wherein is stated that on no account what 0 JO'
the body of a person taken out of the water to be placed in e svgs
verted position. He assured the Coroner and jury that "0. ap-
able to prove that where a person is taken out of the 'o'," deify'.
pareritly lifeless, it is absolutely necessary to place the head. .hafge
4. dOH ' .ri
wards, as the only means of allowing the water .^.-
~ biasvo--
itself and ease the inflation of the lungs. Although he ha 00 ll:
extensive practice in various cases of drowning since he bad_ _ woe,
office, and found the above means prove successful, he 00 1 ouee
fearful of using certain remedies in consequence of the placards_l 0 lie
win' Deir
by the Royal Humane Society, as the friends of personsr 01 t .
might be called to see would think that he had aceele a. 3 ono
death, by adopting such remedies against the society's rut Dial
directions. He was only anxious that the public should 1). , gOO%
acquainted with his suggestion, as he felt satisfied that mut* afea
be 01 it
would result, and the lives of many individuals woulddoubt, ife
This is a question respecting which there should be no _ a 1 g
is to be hoped that medical raen of unquestioned authority ~.,
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their opinions on the subject.
A t sit: 0 'for
PRIMROSE-HILL PARR. A correspon—en ~
,y, t .
In consequence of the scrap of land purchased by Goverun , ;;Dtrel,
the Primrose-hill Park, the Committee of the West London..`.- :,e ring oi
Anti-Inclosure Association have memorialised the CoMinless,,".;,:,
Woods and Forests for an additional purchase, to which_ttl.„2l3l7; sc,c.!
answer has been received by the secretary :-. Office
of. "I'__ of Des
missione.a tier,
June 8, 1846. Sir,-I have, on behalf of the Com ,
___, 3ei r
al
Majesty's Woods, &c., to acknowledge the receipt
London Can tard
dated Ist instant, submitting on behalf of the West
thIS DO
Anti•lnclosure Association, a memorial soliciting thato,
~,.e cro viz:
t;
will, 'with reference to the recent purchase, on behalfrorl ~,,,,,ty
of property at Primrose-hill, apply to Parliamente
n..a_7=4,0 Ilan _
purchase some additional ground in its immediate vi i
w17,.r :::-.1..01:
of the land now used road to
reservoir, and the long field
to
-fel`7• c
from the Avenue-road to the commencement of the ui
to ac, lusTj.
London and Birmingham Railway. And I have, in reply
...hior 00
you that the subject
of this memorial shall recelyc do c9"."'"
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