The Sun.
London, England, 1848-05-02 00:00:00

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Testers required that a stand should be made by the
House, and he hoped that the Noble Lord would have
no objection to agree to his motion.
Tile CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECITER eaid,that,
confined as the vote would be to actually incurred ex-
penditure, he could not agree to the proposition of the
lion. Gentleman. The liability was one incurred by the
country, and one which the Colonial Secretary had SOC.
tinned.
Mr. HUME said that the Right Hon. Gentleman syss
now stating circumstances not mentioned in the psPer;
bat re the House. He believed that the Governor o
Trinidad had taken money from the orphans' and from
other public funds to defray the bills which had become
due.
ir. CARDWELL explained. He did not speak in a
spirit of severe legislation against the West Indian in-0
tarsal; for, after having served en the Committee,
il;e
could not but feel very strong sympathy for there., .9,
hoped the House would eppro .ch the question perfect':
unbiassed by any consideretion but that of justice.
The House then divided, when there uppeared--
For M. Hume's amendment ......... 21
Against it ................................. 76 ,
Majority in favour of the motion... 5' for
Mr. HUME said he would at a future stage move
copies of the orders for the information of the Hons,.a
The Earl of LINCOLN said that as the Ilon'e !se_
decided against the Honourable Member for Mt illros;
on the principle of the question, he thought lety,
hound to explain the vote he had given in the majorte,
He considered he was bound to come to thsot bot,
because it would be a great hardship t olenieg
refused the sum of 166,0001. to the ees die
after they were pledged to give it• But be
not at all think it right to give that vote on the g",,44‘..
that a Secretary of State, or a member of here-ste
jesty's Government, had authorised the colonies to the
bills to the extent of 200,0001. without leave
e°ll fr'st(ted
House, although they could have been easily
as to the propriet of that measure. a to to
The House resyumed, and the report was ordered
received to-mot row.
Mr. HUME wished to ask when the G°YernhPiehotf
m
intended to lay before the House their stator:te
_1..11
ways and means for the year. lie did not wish
_°SO
them unnecessarily, but there was a deficiency in 10
revenue, and the time was come when they ought
make up their minds either to reduce their expenotor„
or to propose a mode for raising money by 14 rotel
Their present course did not tend to raise the
cha
the country. Ti "ff otled
of
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEVE'''Zrentle.
his inability to press on the mind of the Hon' art of
man the fact that this was no expenditure on the Peit et
the country, but merely the exercise of their ere_f, tee
home to raise money to lend on the credit
~t't tee
colony. It would appear from the statement of
Hon. Member for Leominster that the colony wa'_ens,
in a better condition to meet that loan than at pre,
The House then went into Committee on tee.
THE PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) 1311;0
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQO3 the re'
referred to the works undertaken in Ireland for d boo
lief of the distress in that country, and which had
I°s"
carried on during the last two years by moo oee, re
and grants made by this country for the se,
yea
minded the Committee of the provision made
‘se, oder
for repaying the loans by half-yearly instaline°'.d off ill,
which the whole amount advanced would be
Pealrelief of
ten years. The object of these works being th tit spell
the people when the extreme pressure conseene oge'
the famine ceased last year, those works vrere, so_,,,uei,ee
extent, stopped. It was complained that the een..'nest ie
of this had been that many useful works had
here thettert
an incomplete state ; and also it had been Innue betlo_
of complaint that many of the works undertskVe woo,
been of a permanently beneficial character. 15,6 a be.l3
to this latter objection was that the works .ld res'
undertaken at a period of extreme difficulty and deal
sure to relieve the people from the horrors
I,llceoefttlz
and in this object they had been completelf "...e(eleter4o
and had been the means of saving many liyeesthens who
No doubt parties had been employed ur'utteer the
ought not to have been, but this abuse nr'n,, 0 corn;
circumstances, unavoidable, and was leirei,ree.. .BDu
pared with the good which had been eisc'eities under_
notwithstanding such abuse, and the dui !, expel._
which the relief had been extended, the 10'1'000 0
tpaetry haevaerdahgandonf otthbeeewnhgorleeat.
of IhneColosue
1846, t i June, 1847,
cost per day for each person reslhieivneide,gnelfrreotbshm:ectbbniu:o3ll::::b°egifari
was said that some of L,
upon
tot ntaherel!eovuent bye_inog:ot :7
per head, only. But then it
d would be permanentUs
works which had been stopp
hstilieviehrgagae 3;71:36
n 5
,6_,tbh:iner6,b,c;
unoseufnutlietso thhaevicnogunttroy
treapieldY
could not provide the nee ere'
of Irish Members who had waited on hi
resentments for ir,
two things—first, that th:rYptf'eusned:
pleting the works might be made in the e"oiei
sthheoeulidtabife.
instead of being delayed to the winter essizeet e., bit
yeeofripyletiends,tatt,t;ii
had been provided for since by a
re-advanced that the instalments aflornr e
theets paidpurp
purpose
ootfhep
Right Hon. Friend the Secretary for Ireland ; ~e 010°
bAndbe
see i ng
continued,hoiwo dotr•ds ierra b
thatt ei t the 'I id
enjoy3anample)ldsywoteihamnier.
t.:eayfour,
meant
, instalments,
sobatera.nti
hme
efieutnet os f
people them,
duringw thea s
people
tandhroaEth Iseetce ah: Ijo
eeftemsi qnneies7roa:inri:evigiat: :,,,, !
egi ':/
1.0111;1 le
de ;big:.
Bi I 1 i n tTr. ohe ud le;
e -OP":110:::: 1 °
Governmentpproahpyaoadsbeltdeh oututoigdhetrtakiatellrpitgohhweteltsoci;:e;
thtailfthe latter request also. The total amount o.oss
advance any sum not exceeding three years' instsl Os
or 945.,0001., but limiting the advance in all ca gin
seleb‘
eioei
eunff;
vtuetaclahentca,s, actually uae
Gentlemana
thesel
dl y i
regulationsrepaidr:a di vn
a havingintonc ,
efpt
oshl
ryewport Exchequer.uoolpdaoab
repaymentc
be
eudm aal
door
siele
5:: :0.,
er uroedetr
a._
rei o
veirbi to, r°o:
nviedeeedssiinty,thaes existing ti(n)igi Act.lyli
la tins
of
Sir D. NORREYS urged on the Govern ~ oer
WO firs
adoption of out-door relief, to adept the s'in,.„e," f
or en,
several Irish unions, in order to enable
Lc oLmomi
to doaft i on.
the Ex C _
.ih.ect, 'ill::
preventing thepeelgeciPlee
in regard to the repayments of the sd"°-- ses'"
theTirnewoerknhke too to,
IiEQIJ3 d
CHANCELLOR
marked that that was a totally different ses-1311, -see
could not passibly be included in the present, "d„ptiee
would give no opinion as to thepropriety 13' 11 Leer'
ht o Ass
the Hon. Baronet's suggestion; but he rgeei nieool.
that at present the amount repaid by tee 'n °pe-
very small, indeed not more, be believed, thLee d°l,7e,
or 11,000/,, though there was a very large Connell, ,e 0
Atter a few words from Mr. M. . O''°• iteri . es'
said that
and the Chancellor of the Excheelof do! 0
that in making advances for the purpose 9 • s 1111. c
ptte
tie°, preference would be given to those co reed 0.00
had made repayments, the resolution was ngietton •
House then resumed, and the re'° -
ordTehreed to be reported to-morrow (this deY)' .13
ALIEN BILL. iti ' 01/
e te..4e
Sir G. GREY, in moving d reltd'rl•
the second bad t
se el
state ver •
) shot fly the reasons which t ore of
Ministers to propose this measure, and vv,htlea to l/ttee
main provisions. In the first lace, be will' 0t e. el
most distinctly that her •
•r P , Governme f i
eliteesty 5 „Deese isle''
twined corre, esttef
- no doubt whatever as to the
policy which had of late years regulated the •...-‘, ie
hear. nd residence of foreigners in this countl teletop,
) It had long been the boast of Ifgl‘rjosttiftt Do
vas on all occasions the protectress c'te. cf 0040
principles throughout Europe, and that he oilete of,
a evays presented a refuge and asylum Pen fro he
from the force of political events, were &Iv es 00 0`,.0,.
own country.—(Ht ar, hear. ) But the grenn.ur tr?e
they proposed this Bill were. ' lf
of se - protectv 'He 1041)i
',lee 00
which were under all circumstances ree°gethis el': od,
eient.—(Hear, hear.) The great advanteef foe ti
had derived from the free admission ° sell 'tol
at various periods of her history were t°°„ ebenie io.
to make it necessary for him to advert t`' 001'4?
If ilip j
and he time
trusted that at no future t . e of ''' piti
such change in the policy and practic, tekeettet;,
meat or the Government in this resPe(ciwitt o'o4
as should deprive the people of EDO'? ;00- hole
times of the full benefit of that free adfnss-retl,te, el
however, to events which had recently rod to.
no ordinary time -(Hear)—and specials` fil the P,lfie,
plicable to existing circumstances might, .til' the 6:04
case, be necessary without interfering W 1 hoe heif 00 to
policy the country had adopted. It niesteeo g
oblic
0,
served that a great impulse had lately 'to reEng;!ol
France and other countries of Europe t° eotbeilioli DI
principle. Of that principle he would snYn estsvrheept I
while we did not interfere with foreigners 'f gar eeleee
in their own countries whatever form nre, to;0 ,i
they pleased, we had a right to take inefest2,oosnl'le 6
them from acting as the apostles of reptwo teoilsel/
—(Hear, hear.) And there could be notrielt4t
emissaries had gone forth from those c_feeeeteeeest
had adapted republican principles tinteren'."-, e'lel
pagate those principles, and to fehler colic
/44
established institutions of this and those°t" c'ed'i,o'
With regard to the governments of old- sty
wherein the republican principle had ben t/00
was bound to say that there had beeninhtestbeFlie,e
ever in their conduct which gave the:ll bee 4,1 f
tor complaining of them.—(Hear.) 1"-- sirreldes
that those persons who had come for tbe
.'0 obi ,1 eft
did not belong, had done so against the lvetrf sledeill
will of the Government of their own eettheieet Pette,e
hear.) The Bill was restricted to the and("•v trollo'6',
tohfe preamble—of preserving the peace illP
the kindom and would be limited to *cc. di er
me a
He considered ' that the times in which we the vke
some additional precautions on the pertf.t eloletl9
ment, in order to meet the designs °I I"elee iti%ei° ef
reigaers to whom he had alluded, agaifotie to e illi,
of the country. It was proposed, Whoseerei give; OP e
Government with powers similar totit giftoe'di
former Alien Acts. With the amendinelloylevre` ,'ies
of by the Noble Lord the Member for Pibereftie Os
would deal in
halmComittee, and he draee Os o,
only to add, if foreignera disreee ohs 0,0, co,
given them under the Bill, they would ° . of tc'i 0 ,Pf
penalties therein described. The quest° iebe if) it'
he 1g oge siP i
one exclusively for Committee. But
et el'''. 0, 014
serve that these who, by the imports soloo.,
mode of obtaining a certificate of naturebleed, f cool
took place in 1844, had been since eat 7891.11' II
shillings, to obtain such to the number 0
excluded from the operation of the filh sethe the je be
Sir. W. MOLESWORTII contendedcreo o'oo 0,0
Hon. Baronet had not assigned any
proof 0004111
reason .for this measure, nor given l'enlese lieil:fde,,°(
cessity while he galled up
on the lines vg l:
powers it contained on the ground of Its tees deco,
the Government. The object of the wry Ct leit
the executive Government with the e'retiees 1010 or
removing from this country certain, i-it &Lac, p0$0;
conduct the Secretary of State Ineigoeeterted ill,
trust or suspicion. It proposed, "If peeete Die
aliens not for any offence against teestopeetei9le
quillity of the kingdom, but ter being, its lOW
Secretary of State. It was identical