The Sun.
London, England, 1846-06-01 00:00:00

NEW ZEALAND COMPANY.

The annual meeting of this company was held on
]friday at one o'clock, at the company's offices, Broad-
street-buildings, to receive the report of the directors
upon the expediency of winding up the affairs of the
company. There was a numerous attendance of the
directors and proprietors. Viscount Ingestre, M.P,,
chairman of the Court of Directors, preside.
The CHAIRMAN said the directors felt unabated in-
terest in the magnificent colony of New Zealand ; and,
if the company were supported by the Government, it
would become one of the most important parts of the
globe.
The Secretary then read the twentiethipport of the
directors, which complained of the refusal of the Go-
vernment to legislate upon the affairs of the island
until dispatches were received from Governor Grey.
This the directors considered to be an indefinite
postponement, by which a whole year would be
lost. " If," the report stated, " the present session
should close without the repeal of the Act 3 and 4 Vic-
toria, cap. 62, so far as concerned the present despotic
Government of New Zealaud, awl the passing of an Act
authorising the Crown to grant a charter of Govern-
ment on the old English model, we shall despair of
good Government for 'New Zealand." The subscribed
caPtital of 300,000/. was expended or mortgaged. A
further sum of 300,0001. had been expended, which had
been paid to the company by settlers as the purchase-
money of lands, not an acre of which had yet been ob-
tained. For this great outlay there was no property
l
to show. On the faith .f the promise of a oadno
had 100,0001. from the Government the company
ob-
tained a loan from their honkers, which maintained their
establishments here and in the settlements. The di-
rectors, therefore, recommended the abandonment of the
enterprise, and that compensation should be claimed for
the losses incurred, in the event of the session closing
without such a' legislative measure as the directors
deemed indispensable.
Mr. AGLIONBY, M.P., moved that the report be re-
ceived and adopted. The directors had one faint hope,
that they might yet obtain redress during the present
session, and to that hope they still clung. But if the
session passed over without something being done, the
directors had nothing to propose, and the proprietors
must, as honourable men, abandon their enterprise. They
would only embarrass the settlers and get further iato
debt by going on. The proprietors had no object but
that of the public good in carrying out this undertaking;
their object had been to acquire one of the best colonies
in the world for the enterprise of Englishmen, and
to carry the blessings of civilisation and Christianity
to the natives. The meeting scarcely knew the
painful scenes which the directors had to wit-
ness from settlers who returned to this country,
or the painful letters they received from settlers in the
colony, who could not obtain a title to their land. They
had reason to expect when they parted with their land
that they would obtain a title to it, but at this moment
they had not done so, the conditional grant offered to
them being a mockery of justice.—(Hear, hear.) [The
lion. Memer then read an extract from the twelfth re-
port, describing the proceedings in the Court of Land
Claims, and the vexatious delay in obtaining awards,
owing to the constitution of the court.] When an
award was made in favour of the company by Mr. Spain,
they only obtained a grant that was valueless; for where
the natives happened to have driven off the settlers their
"cultivations" would be excepted under the grant in
question. Mr. Spain said of the land so awarded that
the company had well paid for it, and they ought to
have it. In the only case in which the company had
got full justice from the Court of Land Claims, viz.,
in an award in their favour of sixty thousand acres
at New Plymouth, the governor had refused to
confirm the award. Since Mr. Gladstone had en-
tered upon office as Colonial Secretary, the com-
pany had been in communication with him. They
had laid before him a point which did not re-
quire to be delayed until the arrival of dispatches from
Governor Grey—namely, that of a representative system
of good government to the company's settlers, which
ought to be granted. It was for the proprietors to de-
termine whether the directors had acted wisely in ob-
taining the power to wind up the affairs of the company.
—(Cheers.) The pecuniary interests of the proprietors
were not an ingredient to be neelected, and if they failed
now the directors trusted that after years would do
justice to them. He still believed that New Zealand
would become what her warmest well-wishers desired.

Mr. C. BULLER said, tnat having taken an active
part in Parliament respecting the company's affairs—
(Cheers)—he had been it,ked by the directors to offer
a few remarks upon the important report now laid
before the meeting. He did hope that the struggle
of the New Zealand Company with an adverse Go-
vernment had come to a satisfactory end last session.
It had been admitted that the debates on the subject had
disclosed a tale of mismanagement on the part of suc-
cessive governments which was the cause of the difficul-
ties of that once thriving settlement. He had hoped
that reparation to the company would have been at once
made. Nothing could be more satisfactory than the as-
surances received from the Right Hon. Baronet at the
bead of the Government during the debates, and he
trusted that Government would at once have proceeded
to act upon their promises. It was, therefore, with deep
mortification he had given his assent to the report, but
the course recommende4 in it was the only course that,
as men of honour and sagacity, they could pursue. It
was discouraging to have to battle with the Government,
and still more to face those whose insidious opposition was
at the bottom of the treatment they had experienced.—
(Cheers.) Bat now, having gained every triumph, hav-
ing it admitted that the remedy they recommended was
the right one, they had still produced no vivid and
vital effect in action. The disasters of New Zealand
were not to be repaired by admissions, but by acts—
acts which it was in the power of the Government to
do. The directors were told that her Majesty's go-
vernment would do nothing to relieve them until
they received reperts from Governor Grey. He wished
that those who made them that answer could be aware
of the state in which the colonies were, and would re-
main, until a satisfactory decision was given. Every
moment was fraught with mischief, will, and despair
to thousands of their countrymen. The debate of last
session had produced a revival of hope in the breasts
of the colonists, but now some of the best and most
valuable settlers were deserting the colony. Every ves-
sel that arrived from the colony contained some of the
best of its settlers, who wisely tried to save what little
property they had left, by quitting the scence in which
they had lost so much.—(Cheers.) The condition
of the labourers in the colony was deplorable ;
some had obtained temporary employment, others
bad gone to the neighbouring colonies. But, if such
were the state of the 'about ers, what must be the condi-
tion of those who had paid for the lands which
they now saw in the possession of the savages ? The
weight of colonial misgovernment had fallen upon those
who had purchased land. They had seen the titles to
their lands withheld; they had been compelled to dance
attendance at the office of some official in the colony ;
and after all they were still doomed to disappointment.
He regretted to see his learned friend Mr. Halswell pre-
sent, who had been one of the first settlers in Wellington.
His main object in going to New Zealand had been to do
good to the natives, and it was deplorable to see a gentle-
man obliged, through the mismanagement of the British
Government, to abandon the country in which he had
hoped to pass his life. He had spoken of the colonists
out in New Zealand ; but what should he say of the
intended colonists who remained at home ? He observed a
gentleman there (Captain Cargill), who was one of a
colony started three years ago, under the auspices of the
Free Church of Scotland, which consisted of labourers,
shopkeepers, :and farmers, who were prepared to quit
the country. They had abandoned their occupations,
and transferred the investment of their capital ; and,
after all, they were not able to go out of the country.
They had, first, no guarantee of their land when they
got there ; and, secondly, no guarantee could be given
them that they would enjoy free institution;. Whet
was it the company wanted ? A title to the teed which
they had purchased, and fairly purchased, and institu-
tions under which Englishmen could live. The caprices,
vagaries, and follies of its governors justified him in as-
serting that the despotic Government of New Zealand
had been as stupid as it was mischievous. The ques-
tion between the company and the Government was a
greatquestion, which concerned every colony in the
empire. Why should Englishmen when they went to
a colony be subjected to a despotic Government, and be
considered enemies ;laot friends to the State ?
They ought to lose no rights our empire
over the ocean, and the Inilfotronbytoextrlding
revolting notion, which had its risee in our wa.icat
colonies. The directors asked that Government Should
do fur the free and intelligent settlers of New Zealand
what James I. and 11. and Charles I. and 11. did for the
Englishmen of their day, viz., that they should carry
with them the rights of self-taxation and self-govern-
ment.—(Cheers.) He claimed for every colony as well
as for New Zealand, that they shsuld revert to the
sound practice of their ancestors, and enable every free
and intelligent man to vote on all matters aa ect ing
the good of the community. Who were the persons
usually sent out as governors of our colonies, and in-
_
—captains of
trusted with almost arbitrary power ?—captains
wer
men-of-war, colonels of regiments, old generals who had
passed the period of service, gentlemen who had tried to
make their way in Parliament, and had not been able.
The' bowing and scraping which such persons were the
object of in their new title of " your Excellency" was
enongh'to turn the heads of the wisest and best men
that ever lived. The Legislative Councils bad as little
claim to public confidence as the Governors. The com-
pany required a total alteration in our relations with the
natives, and a total abandonment of the foolish way in
which the Government had acted. He admitted that
the opinion of the directors had changed as to the policy
to be pursued towards the natives. They had recom-
mended at first the colonisation of all the natives, be-
lieving that it would be practicable. The company's
settlers lived in happy relations with the natives, until
the Government came among them and disturbed those
relations. He asserted that the impolitic course of
the Government had alone produced that sanguinary
war in the north of New Zealand, which had ar-
rested the improvement of the colony. The scene of
those disasters was where the missionary system had
bad full scope, where the treaty of Waitangi was
made, and where Governor Fitzroy had established
what relations he pleased with the natives. And there
had grown up a war, which, unless it were put a atop
to, would put an end to the colonisation of the island.
He thought they ought to abandon the hope of colonising
the north of New Zealand. The natives should be left
in possession of those districts, and the company and the
Government should confine their attention to the settle-
ments of Europeans, and to prevent contact between
the natives and the Europeans. If the Government per-
sisted in conquering the native tribes by military force,
it bust be followed by the utter extirminatiou of the
weaker race. Government were now employing one
tart of the natives to cut the threats of the others,
They ought to give up the attempt to plant
our colony where the natives were thickest,
sled ought not to attempt to impose their lima

upon the natives. If nothing were to be done for the
colonies for another year, he advised the directors
to give up the attempt to carry on the govern-
ment and the affairs of the colony, to throw the respon-
sibility upon the Ministry, and to quit the field of action,
from which they had been driven by injustice and im-
policy.—(Cheers.) The directors were told that the ob-
ject they had in view would be accomplished by the in-
structions last sent out to Governor Grey. He doubted
this, and thought the Company ought to have an act of
Parliament, securing to the colony, a representative go-
vernment. A general reform of the system by which the
colonies were governed, was what was wanted, and until
the colonies made common cause together, their interest
would continue to suffer. 'When Mr. Ewart, the other
evening, brought forward a motion exhibiting the gross-
est instance of mismanagement in the case of Van Die-
men's Land, the House was counted out. Only twenty-
seven members were present on a motion affecting the
very existence, and well-being of a colony. If all the in-
terests of the colonies were brought to bear on this sub-
ject, success would be certain, for never in a better cause
did men appeal to the sympathies of all wise and right
thinking persons.—(Cheers.)
Mr. CLARKE wished to know in what position a dis-
sentient proprietor would be placed, and what compen-
sation would be due to the company from the Government
if theypaiddown
ot,ov took the
nmo n
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,mpy' s
which
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he
could
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ago, he
ds
610 lose,
lan,l which he understood was guaranteed, and now his
title was, he feared, little better than a aste sheet of

br.Bowrima thought the directors had done right in
throwing the responsibility upon the Government, and
he hoped that Parliament would feel bound to protect the
shareholders against loss. He seconded the motion, that
the report be received and adopted.
The Noble Chairman having been compelled to leave
the meeting shortly after the commencement of the
proceedings,
Mr. AGLIONBY, who took the chair, in reply to the
first question of Mr. Clarke, said the voice of the majo-
rity would bind the meeting. He hoped he would nut
press for an answer upon the other point.
After a few words from other proprietors in support
of the resolution, the Chairman put the motion, which
was p ssed unanimously amidst applause. The retiring
directors and auditors were then re-elected, and after a
vote of thanks to the directors for the skill and ability
with which they had conducted the affairs of the com•
pany, the meeting broke up.

MARYLEBONE VESTRY.
SIR P. LAURIE AND PERAMBULATING STREET-ADVER.

TISING VA NS.

On Saturday the Marylebone Vestry was especially
convened to consider a resolution, of which notice had
been given by Sir Peter Laurie, with respect to taking
steps to ensure the abolition of street advertising vans.
Mr. E. Joseph was in the chair, and the vestry was
more fully attended than usual, out of the one hundred
and twenty-five members composing it there being pre-
sent upwards of one hundred gentlemen, among whom we
observed Lord Keynon, Earl Manvers, Lord Strafford,
Lord Montfort, Sir James Hamilton, Sir Walter Stirling,
Sir Peter Laurie, Mr. W. Williams, M. P., John Thomas
Hope, Esq., Martin Thackery, Esq., the Rev. R. Wal-
pole, the Rev. I). Fellowes, Mr.(ex-Sheriff) Salamons, &c.
Sir PETER LAURIE, in bringing forward his motion,
said :—Although some persons might view the subject
to which he was about to direct the attention of the
vestry as a very trivial matter, and that in doing so he
might himself be subject to ridicule, still he had no he-
sitation in declaring the perambulating street van sys-
tem, which had recently sprung up in the metropolis, as
one of the greatest nuisances that had ever been inflicted
on the inhabitants of London.—(Hear, hear.) He (Sir
Peter Laurie) took credit to himself for having, with the
aid of Mr. Fox Maule, then Secretary of State, succeeded
in ridding the country of two other nuisances which had
previously existed, namely, the horrible practice of climb-
ing boys in chimney-sweepirg and the monstrous dog-
cart nuisance.—(Hear hear and laughter.) If for no-
thing else he (Sir Peter Laurie) thought those two
acts were sufficient to hand his name down to pos-
terity.—(Cheers and laughter.) The nuisance he now
had to complain of, and which, if it were possible, he
was determined to put down, was the prevalent practice
of allowing large square boxes, reaching in some in-
stances nearly as high as sec nid floor windows, to per-
ambulate the crowded streets of London, covered with
the advertising placards of puffing tradesmen, horrible
murders, and penny concerts. These perambulating
advertising machines had become so fashionable that
the principal thoroughfares were frequently comp'etely
block up with them, and their proprietors made vast
sums of money thereby. He (Sir P. Laurie) had re-
cently set a city officer to inquire into the matter, and
he found that a man named Taylor, living at Huxton,
simply for exhibiting a bill of the Britannia Saloon on
one of his vans charged 255. per week, and although the
horses employed in these machines were so old that it
might be attended with considerable difficulty to get
them along at a rate exceeding four miles an hour, yet
these people could not find enough horses and vans
for their business.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) Now,
after Parliament, he (Sir Peter Laurie) looked upon
the Corporation of London and the Marylebone vestry
as the fourth estate of the realm—(Laughter)—and
when the Government or the Legislature of the country
failed to discover and check abuses, it was the duty of
these bodies to take the lead in doing so, and bring the
matter under the notice of the Executive Government.
There were continually local Acts passing through Par-
liament, and the object he (Sir Peter Laurie) had in
view, was to call the attention of the Secretary of State
to this matter, and get him to introduce a clause into
one of them, which would effectually put an end to the
nuisance complained of. If this were done, he had no
doubt, like Mr. Fox Maule, the Secretary of State
would aid them in the object. He (Sir Peter Laurie)
had no desire to dictate to the Government the precise
clause which should be introduced, but he held in his
hand one which had been drawn up by a legal friend,
and which he considered would serve as the ground-
work of a clause. The worthy knight here read the
proposed clause, which was to the effect, that for every
offence of either drawing or driving through the public
streets of the metropolis a van covered with an advertis-
ing placard, or placards, the owner of such van should
be subject to a penalty not exceeding 31. There was
another point in coftnexion with these vans in which
the law was evaded. If any person were to take one of
these vans before his friend Mr. Rawlinson, the magis-
trate (who he was glad to see present), and show to the
worthy magistrate that these vans bore no name what-
ever in accordance with the Act of Parliament, he had
no doubt he would fine them. He (Sir P. Laurie) had
seen from ten to twenty of these advertising vans in one
day, without any name upon them except those on the
placards, and if he did not succeed with his present plan,
it was his determination to have the drivers of all vans
he found without the names, whether they had the
placards of Madame Tussaud's Exhibition or any oneelse,
before Mr. Rawlinson, or some other magistrate, and get
them convicted, as he was determined to put the nuisance
down. He was glad to find present his Noble Friend (Earl
elanvers), who had written to him to say he would
give the matter his cordial support, and he now begged
to move, " That a deputation from the vestry be ap-
pointed to wait upon the Secretary of State, and urge
him to introduce a clause into some act to abolish the
advertising van nuisance."
Earl MAevees seconded the resolution and with the
greatest cordiality, although he found his friend Sir
Peter Laurie had not complied with the request in his
(Earl Manver's) letter—namely, when he had read it
to light his pipe with it—(Laughter.) He considered
that all classes of the community might agree with him
that these perambulating advertising vans were the
greatest abomination with which the streets of London
were at present affected. They were the vehicles by
which the vendors of corn plaister, cheap tea, and puf-
fing Sunday newspapers deceived the public.
Mr. RAWLINSON (the magistrate) hoped the vestry
had too much good sense to pass the resolution of the
worthy knight. The law was at present sufficiently
effective te put down the nuisance complained of.
Mr. RIDGWAY agreed with the learned magistrate who
had just sat down that the existing law was sufficient to
destroy the nuisance ; but it would place the worthy
knight as the champion of its destruction in the position
of a common informer.— (Laughter.) He equallydetested
these perambulating machines with the worthy mover,
and looked upon the placards placed on them as false
reports to swindle the honest tradesman, and gull the
public. If the police had the common sense to study the
clauses of the Police Act they would find it was their
duty to abolish the nuisance ;_ but, alas ! how few of the
police were gifted wita the slightest particle of common
sense.—(Laughter.)
these ivir.
p.ronlearuolinsiimarPariarinteeds tler me
ot ito no
nolny tah
ne
agi
sr
ao
au
cned, t
but
dangerous to the public.
Mr. H. C. WILSON said there could be no doubt but
these advertising vans did goat injury to legitimate trade;
but he thought, as far as the nuisance was concerned,
there were many vehicles used for the ordinary purposes
of trade which were much more dangerous. He thought
it far better that the attention of the Secretary of State
should be called to the subject in general terms, than
that they should frame a clause for Government.
Mr. G. DANIELL said the difference in the opinion of
the two worthy magistrates, as to the power of the law,
was exceedingly strange. He, however, agreed with the
Noble Earl (Manvers). It was only a day or two since
he saw Fleet-street completely bloeked up by seven of
these vans passing along in succession.
Mr. Simeon NS was exceedingly glad that Sir Peter
Laurie had brought forward this important subject. He
had himself been so frequently
for have
hesitated one moment, annoyed by these ae.
vertisiug vans, that he would
hesitated to have incurred the odium, if there was any,
in becoming a public prosecutor,
tor could he have dis-
covered the names of' the owners upon
ither themnames . There
or
was the greatest difficulty in g
etting e
number; and at least
of the owners upon
them is a similar manner to the
identify them, by plac ng the names
names painted on a
.some steps ought to be taken to
farmer's cart.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir PETER LAURIE said he never was more surprised
Parliament existing to put down th p
era lig
mbu at
than to hear Mr. Rawlinson say there was an .Actnof
ese

machines.
Mr. RAWLINSON—I meant by indietment.—(oh, oh.)
Sir P. LAURIE said that was the very cry he was
met
with when he first tried to put down that monster nui-
sance which bad existed in Marylebone some years ago,
and which swindled the nublic out of something like
300,0001. He meant the West Middlesex Insurance
Company.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) " Oh," said the
local magistracy, "you must proceed by indictment ;"
bnt he (Sir P. Lauri.?) got the poor victims to come out
of the district, and be -hut the whole concern up in four-
and-twenty hours. He thought the vestry, who had
the power, ought to take this matter up. They
had already seen the effect of the power they
had through the press concerning the fair at
Chalk Farm, and he called upon them to exercise it in
this particular. Every man in his senses must see that
these 'vehicles were a nuisance, and were only intended

to gull the public. If they were caught in the city, they
might depend upon it they would be punished fur it; but
they did not come there much, as they knew the people
in the city were not so easily gulled as they were in
Marylebone --(Laughter.) It was, however, a monster
evil, and he hoped the vestry would aid him in putting
an end to it.

The resolution was then put, and carried almost
unnanimously, there being but four dissentients.
Earl Manvers, Sir Peter Laurie, Mr. G. Daniell, Mr.
E. Joseph, Mr. Harbut, Mr. Ridgway, Mr. Peter
Laurie, and Mr. Soden, having been appointed as a de-
putation to wait on Sir James Graham on the subject,
the vestry separated.

THE DREADFUL COLLISION ON
THE MERSEY--INQUEST ON THE BODIES.
LIVERPOOL, MAY, 30.—We regred to add that an-
other of the passengers in the ill-fated Rambler died
yesterday iu the Northern Hospital. His name was
Patrick Geoghen. This morning an inquest was held
at the Sessiens house upon the badies of the two men
ar.d child who were brought to the Liverpool side of the
river.
The coroner, P. F. Curry, Esq., stated that it was his
desire fully to investigate the whole of the particulars in
this case.
Mr. Harden, barrister, appeared on behalf of the mate
and captain of the Sea Nymph, who, it was alleged, were
in liquor at the time of the accident. Mr. Myers ap-
peared for the owners of the Sea Nymph, and Mr.
Hassell for the owners of the Rambler. On the bench,
along with the coroner, was Captain Bevis, R.N., and Mr.
Asken, harbour-master ; Captain Saarsficld, and Mr.
Cooke, of the Pilots' Committee, were also in court.
The following witnesses were examined :
Honour M'Glove examined—We left Sligo in the
Rambler on Sunday morning for Liverpool. The de-
ceased, Patrick Roache, was in delicate health when we
left. On Monday morning I found the child dead in
my arms, and mentioned it to some of the sailors. At
the time of the collision the child was taken on shore in
one of the boat: and conveyed to the Northern Hospital.
Patrick M`G'love called—l am a farmer, and came
from Sligo on Sunday with my wife and the deceased ; I
was about to emigrate to America. He corroborates
the statement of the preceding witness as to the death
of the deceased.
Thomas Gildersleeve, house surgeon to the Northern
Hospital, stated that deceased had died from congestion
of the brain, which might have arisen from being over-
lain or from natural causes. He was inclined to the
latter opinion from having heard the history of the case.
The jury returned a verdict to the effect that the de-
ceased died by the Visitation of God.
The Coroner intimated that he was desirous of making
most se dtehing inquiry into the causes of this melan-
choly accident, which had taken place, and hoped the
jury would render him (as he doubted not they would)
every assistance in so doing. The evidence was then
proceeded with as regarded Pat Geoghan and John
Rooke.
Ellen M'Lean called—We left Gligo on Sunday last,.
by the Rambler, for Liverpool, and I belonged to a
party about to emigrate to America. Knew the de-
ceased Geoghan. We were deck passengers. There
were a great many passengers, but I don't know how
many. On Sunday night, when we got near Liverpool,
I was sitting in the steerage, when another steam-boat
came against us, and smashed the vessel we were in, and
a great number of persons were exceedingly hurt,
amongst whom was the deceased Geogha i. The broken
pieces of wood and iron flew about in all directions. A
boat came to our assistance, and the next day the de-
ceased was, along with others, taken to the hospital.
The captain and mate, after the accident, did all they
could to save us.
Bryan Kelly examined—l am a provision dealer, and
was a passenger on board the Rambler for Sligo. Knew
the deceased, Jain Roache, who was also a passenger.
Heard of a child dying on Monday morning, bat no-
thing happened after that until we got near the dock on
Sunday evening. I was standing near the bulwarks, on
the Cheshire side, and heard the captain giving great
commands. He called out to one of the hands to go to
the helmsman, but did not understand what he said.
He ran hack, and the captain called out " stop her,"
and in about two minutes we were struck by the other
boat. The whole ship was then alarmed, and the other
boat turned off from us very quick. There was then an
alarm that the ship was making water, and the captain
called out " full speed," and I asked one of the hands if
there was any danger, and he said no, as she was
aground. Several persons were badly hurt, but I don't
know that Roache was amongst them. Saw him at the
hospital, but cannot say how he was hurt. Did not see
the other steamer till our boat was struck. It was
rather a dark night. Cannot say whether the other
vessel had lights or not. Our steamer had two, one upon
her chimney, and another in one of the rooms adjoining
the paddle-box, facing out to the bows,
By a Juror—l saw a man run to the man at the helm.
I cannot say whether the vessel altered her course.
About twenty minutes before the collision, the captain
gave orders about the steering, and continued to do so
up to the time of the collision.
By Mr. Hassell—Don't recollect the word port being
called out by any body about the time of the collision.
There was no confusion on deck till the collision took
place. We passed close to the Light house, and, before
we arrived there, several vessels passed us.
By Mr. Harden—The orders given by the captain
were before we came to the Light-house and afterwards;
he had the trumpet in his hand at the time.
By the CORONER—Everything on board the Rambler
went on with regularity till the collision took place.
Bernard Gollagher, butcher, of Sligo, one of the pas-
sengers on board the Rambler, proved that John Roache
was on board at the time of the collision.
Mr. Thos. Gildersleeve, surgeon to the hospital, de-
posed to the wounds on the body of Roache, and that
the injury he had received was the cause of death. He
also stated that Patrick Geoghan died on Friday, from
fracture of the spine.
Peter M'Farlane called—l am second mate of the
Rambler. She was commanded by Captain William
M'Allister. The engines of the vessel were of about
250 horse power. We had on board six firemen, two
coal trimmers, two engineers, and eight seamen. The
vessel plied between Sligo, Glasgow, and Liverpool,
carrying passengers and cattle. We left Sligo on
Sunday afternoon about five o'clock, with about 300
'deck passengers, and one or two cabin passengers, with
about 600 pigs and 14 head of black cattle. Nothing
interfered with our passage till we got to the Bell Buoy,
about half-past nine on Monday night ; it wanted about
half an hour of high water, and there was a westerly
wind. Our coast was south-east when we were at the Bell-
buoy, which we continued till we were about half-way
in, and then we altered it to E.S.E. We had a light at
the funnel-head, and a red light on the larboard, and a
white one on the starboard side, on each paddle-box
there being the usual quantity of lights, in the places fur
putting them for vessels coming into port. Had a watch
forward, consisting of the mate, and two men, from the
time we passed the Bell-buoy. The captain was on the
gang way between the paddle-boxes, and had a speaking
trumpet in his had. We continued our course E.S.E.,
till we came to the Rock light, and passed two steamers.
We rounded the Rock about a quarter past ten, and
were about a breadth and a half of the packet from the
small buoy placed off the Rock Light. We then steered
due south for about a minute or so, and then south half-
west ; and I then heard the mate report a steamer
a-head. I said to the man at the wheel I saw smoke,
but no lights, and in a moment after, I saw a starboard
light, and funnel light off our larboard side. It was
about two paints off our larboard bow, and I said to the
man that she was coming towards us. We were then
pretty close to the Cheshire shore. I then lost sight of
their red light altogether, and the word wa- from the
captain to " port," which was passed along to the helms-
man, and he did port. The next. word from the gang-
way was " port" again, and that passed to the helmsman,
and he ported a second time. I then began to be
frightened ; and in a moment or less it was "hard s-
port," which was obeyed. Ilaid hold of the wheel, and
called to another man to assist us, and then three of us
held the helm hard a port, and were holding it so when
a steamer ran aboard of us, and struck us on the lar-
board bow. She cut us down below the water edge,
capsized the windlass, tore up the deck, and a great
many persons were hurt, and some were killed dead on the
spot by the materials that were flying about. The other
steamer then backed her way out and got clear, and we
did not see any more of her. The captain ordered our
vessel to be run on shore, and all the passengers were
landed, some at Cheshire, and others at Liverpool.
Could not say whether orders were given to stop the en-
gines before the collision, there were so many pas-
sengers and so much noise. We got a pilot off the Bell-
buoy, who took charge of the vessel.
The CORONER intimated that he should merely take
the evidence of one or two of the principal officers as to
the course which the vessel had taken, and then it
would be far the practical men who might be called to
say whether the correct course had been taken or not.
By Mr. Duncan—We came up the North Channel.
The witness here referred to the chart of the port, with
a view of showing that the Rambler passed the Rip-Rap
buoy off the Lighthouse, a breadth and a half to the
eastward, and afterwards kept close to the Cheshire
shore.
By Mr. Harden—The direct course from the Rip-Rap
buoy to the Clarence-dock would be about south-east.
We were not is what is marked down as the tidal
course. It is usual for vessels going to sea with a flood
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centre of the river ; some however do, and some do
not, according as there may, or may not, be vessels in
Myers—lf we had held on our course, and
not ported the helm, I cannot say whether the collision
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sall—lf the Sea Nymph had held on her
course and not struck us, she would have gone ashore.
By the CORONER—The rules of the Trinity House are
that we should port our helm on meeting a vessel at
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tine.esse answered her helm very
quickly.
By the CORONER—If the other steamer had continued
the course she was in, when we first saw her, she
would have gone clear, and passed us on our larboard
aide. The bullocks were placed close forward and the
pigs about the deck. There was a place in the steerage
for the passengers, and none of them were injured by
the cattle.
By Mr. Commissioner Dowling—None of the pas-
sengers on board the Rambler, lwleurneteirn, the
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river.
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side, but there is no strict rule laid down. When I first
saw the light on board the Sea. Nymph, she might be
about half a mile off. If she had continued her course
when the light was first seen, and we had pursued ours,
the collision would have been avoided, and they would
have passed each other on the larboard side. When the
collision took place, I jumped on board the Sea Nymph,
and was taken to the pier, and aftewards I touk a boat,
and was taken back to our own vessel.

By Mr. Duncan—After we were struck I saw the
captain of the Sea Nymph on the gangway, and said to
him, " For God's sake keep by us, fur fear we go
down ;" and he told me to get out of the way.
By Mr. Harden—l called out " port," lest the other
steamer should alter her course. Our captain ordered
the engines to be stopped about half a minute before the
collision, which was dune, but there was not time to re
verse them. If I wanted to make a quick paassage to
Sligo against a flood tide, I should keep on the Cheshire
or north shore, providing there were no vessels in the way;
and in returning I should, with a flood tide, keep in the
middle of the ricer. Myself, two of the crew, and two of the
passengers, got on board the Sea Nymph. The captain of
the Sea Nymph did not wait to know whether any assist-
ance was required by the Rambler after the collision took
place. We ported our helm to give room to the Sea
Nymph to pass, and we going close on shore. The bow-
sprit of the Sea Nymph did not go ov ,r the stern of the
Rambler to my knowledge, and she did not return to her
so far as I slw. I was very much confused. Never
heard Captain Tompson hail the Rambler, and offer
assistance ; he might have done so. The captain of the
Rambler was perfectly sober. Cannot say whether the
captain of the Sea Nymph was sober or not when I went
on board her, although I spoke to him ; but he appeared
very much confused. Ido not mean to say that he was
drunk.

The case was adjourned at four o'clock till half-past
nine on Monday morning.