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LONDON:
SATURDAY, MARCH 6, 1841.
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t be, judging
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eO, tiRGVLL, who must be, tY thpt: aspirings, a political genius, unscared
of the
'41,1,,-,,`alliire of the LORD ADVOCATE and
kir J, AtnntErr, and untaught by the sagacity
Earl now
4A:OI,4„,A4LeounNE, which the Noble
14'11 "te4geg)—the new Duke of ARGYLE an-
Wieed last night in the House of Peers tdhtaot
tliasellld, try his hand at a Bill to put an end S Iflittls in the Church of Scotland. . l
'44 nv..“48) Inv Lord Duke, as something feasib e.
ki-lie,,v-r attempt to curb the ambition of, or put
v' to the contests of, priests.
of Earl of
_A cold water
ABERDEEN threw
bl,k,,°wn
431,47; WhoexPerienee on the projecttheofth Noble
~the,i
tto.perssaeivde,reh.owever, that he shoulde feel
1'4(1 Isll°P of LONDON by noticing,. adver-
kar, the
sem i
ewnat piquant indecencies of a
siitii;llterade at Drury-lane. At least, we pre
lik4ile Right Reverend Prelate would not
illh litt,(111;11,4 it necessary to wish that the amuse-
'Ned that he .Suppressed, unless he had sup-
,l44Y i,,Lat the indecencies are not, as some men
'4(lk Nine, revolting, but attractive.
their
I,leLtZwere, We believe, more correct in d
1,44 ht,--7,T1 the Bishop, for they actually hooted
ate - sl'olight sbattrdytive as to require that the
411 kialitli°ritv should- repress it. Some men have
tv.-,rat),_ . , ..
things of
IA Nit rdinary faculty for outfinding „Nerl,sre; We are diligent readers of news-
of
'il'llilis' ,14vve never were attracted by the para-
thr,l'oilwolloi,ell so rivetted the senses of the Bishop
he '1(11e,-,-* :the Right Rev. Prelate came after.
t4adv,riee In denouncing the exhibition. while
-1,4 M b,l,Bed it, and inquired if it were sane-
-1 4ile :157,, 'lle Lord Chamberlain.
-4ir4 .s.---qrl of ti
kti% 1.4/41 '{BRIDGE explained that he, as
itt-',itliibil,ll.l.Aix, had no power to prevent
ill,' ") th ."°ns, but he had written on the sub-
',,,N ol e Proprietors of Drury-lane, who had
::41,:s
tevaelcskutrebseto put a stop to the exhibition.
ki(l4y ,18" P Of EXETER announced that on
would move an address to her
I,l%;:4°orwi.thhold her assent to the ordinance
thi,Nni...s t a. ting San Sulpice. It mu.st. be
cord,'ik th 5 Ills Lordship's unbounded charity to
that lie i' tl • • •
kur,l tila.ti ' ilowing into the cauldron.
.ofdis-
ilve ;8 I-I°W Only simmering in America, the
to:This c;llgredient of religious dissensions. But
qb this
:Ptlre not statesmen; they care nothing
is °1.1(1) they only trouble themselves
li e ilext
't e ari •
In!=clrt Of Gtt-ce it', in moving for copies
,s•IN espoa_ , , ,
44(.04rs n,.i'rice between the Poor-law Corn-
lty,l`r the '''''"' landowners at Clonmel, brought VIII as.eB Office
se of the House of Lords one or
h
100. what he described as gross cor-
e A?
tio , aouL n
11, 'ilk t ' of NORMANBY requested their , (!,,'''llitli ° susPEnd their judgment, till he had
1,111) IllissZted with Mr..Nrenoms, the Poor-law
ik, le
.1) ,r, on the sub;ect.
1%,„ like of w
could hardly be
4qi,. ,kte4 WELLINGTON
4;414 fb;ACit Wa.it, and instantly gave notice of a
141y:llis of-NT.°ll4--'37., but at the request of the
4t 'lilt " ollkANnv postponed it till Thurs-
,, llie e Duke .
q(jti WOrki said he was greatly disappointed
thia°4 Of 41,,n, of the Poor-law in Ireland ; the
I.e 118
'deg it the basis of an exended fran-
-41g;44 1.1.1c1e11t13,- disturbed the Tory Lords.
k 1341.i"ztr_bts.:iiborertaoeuho ofdenounced the proceed-
privilege, for the officiai
I,*
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for
the use of the House con-
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tradicted each other. The Returns moved for by
Lord GLENCALL were ordered, and their Lord-
ships adjourned to Monday.
We presume the matter, whenever it comes to
be discussed, will afford a nice subject for a most
extensive party debate.

In the Commons the Nottingham Gas Bill
was read a second time after a division.
Lord SANDON obtained leave of absence for

Mr. CRESSWELL, and for him gave notice
that the Hon.. and Learned Gentleman would re-
new his motion with regard to :Danish claims
after Easter.

Mr. O'CONNELL is to move that Ireland be ex-
empted from the operation of Mr. LABOU-
cHrnE'S Railway Bill.
On Monday Lord J. RUSSELL is to move for
leave to bring in a Bill to amend the criminal law.
In reply to Mr. O'CoNNELL, Lord PAL-
MERSTON stated that the treaty with Texas
was a general commercial treaty, and contained
no provision to secure the entrance into Texas
of British subjects, being free persons of colour,
such persons being prohibited to enter Texas.
In answer to gir R. PEEL, Mr. LABoucurnE
promised to consider whether he would refer the
Railways Bill to a Select Committee, as one
clause was complained of by Railway Compa-
nies; but both Right Hon. Gentlemen stated that
if the Railway Companies who petitioned for
that, did it only to gain time, they should oppose
any such plan.

On the motion for bringing up the Report on
Lord KEANE'S Annuity Bill, Mr. HUME moved
that it be postponed till the correspondence be-
tween the Government and the East India Com-
pany, relative to Lord KEANE'S service, be laid
before the House. The Hon. Member wished to
have the annuity paid by the East India Com-
pany.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL opposed Mr. RUME's
motion, which on a division was lost by 127 to
85. The Report was brought up, and the Bill
ordered to be read a third time on Monday.

The East India Rum Duties Bill was com-
mitted pro forma to introduce some alterations
into it.

On the Order of the Day for going into a Com-
mittee of Supply,
Mr. O'BRIEN referred to our uneasy relations
with the United States, and expressed an opinion
that if we had a strong fleet within reach of the
American ports, it would be better than to
have a strong force on the frontier.
Mr. EWART saw no reason for anticipating
hostilities ; he relied on the good sense and inte-
rest of the inhabitants of the United States, and
he trusted our unhappy differences would be
amicably terminated.
Mr. HUME deprecated war in strong terms,
and asked for information, although none was
given.

The silence of the Ministers on .this important
topic is of no pleasant aue,''ury.
The House went into a Committee of Supply,
and a considerable number of the Navy Esti-
mates were voted. Some interesting conversa-
tion took place on a number of subjects. We
shall only mention that Lord JOHN RUSSELL,
in answer to a question, stated that a monument
is to be erected to Sir SYDNEY SMITH ; and Sir
JAMES DUKE gave notice that he should move
that a monument be also erected to Lord
ExMOUTH.

Mr. MACAULAY moved the Army Estimates,
which he explained in a business-like manner.
One item will be considered by the public, as we
considered it, curious : a vote of 500/. for interest
on deposits in Savings Banks, of which soldiers
could avail themselves. That may make them
careful and sane persons. Notwithstanding the
exhortation of the Times to increase the army we
are glad to learn that the charge for the present
year is only 10,0001. less than last year for the
effective service.

Mr. HUME regretted our disturbed relations
with Europe, the great expense caused thereby,
and recommended a property tax.
Sir H. HARDINGE thought the Estimates did
not go far enough, and spoke as if he had written
the leader in the Times yesterday on the sub-
ject. An addition of 5,800 men would, he said,
give satisfaction to the army.
Lord J. RUSSELL thought, of course, that the
number was exactly right, lying between the
parsimony of -31 r. HumE and the extravagance
of the Gallant General. The Noble Lord justi-
fied keeping c.ur forces up to their present foot-
ing by the state of foreign countries, and of our
Colonies.

In the course of the discussion which ensued,
Lord CARDIGAN'S case was brought under the
notice of the House by Mr. HUME. Lord
HowlcK inskted strongly on the necessity of an
inquiry, and pointed out that the Commander-
in-Chief was not free from blame.

An interestiu.g conversation ensued. Several
of the votes we re agreed to, and the House re-
sumed.

Colonel Sinr HORP gave notice that he would
call the attention of the House to the appoint-
ment of Mr. litzArcu as Solicitor to the Home
Department.
The House adjourned at Twenty Minutes be-
fore One o'Cl.ock till Monday.

Tory states men appear to act as if prejudice
deprives thei aof intellect. They are the unre-
fleeting slay es of an incorrect theory. We
have no hopr; of awakening in them a due sense
of their deg =dation, but we may, perhaps, be
able to convince others how despicable in point
of comprehe:asion Tory statesmen really are. At
least, if a st upid and besotted adherence to a
system, whit ;h is every day demonstrated to be
false, of wig. fling one thing and effecting the op-
posite, of la bouring to bring about contrary and
incompatible _t ends, be proofs of a thorough want
of compre luansion, we shall be able to fix that on
Tory state mien. _ _

What is now one of their cries ? The priests
have too r (Inch influence in Ireland. What has
long been one of their greatest lamentations? The
influence of the Catholic priesthood. What do
they coma At du of in Parliament, and out of Par-
liament? 'The increase of the power of Rome.
What do -.a ley and their scribes say impedes the
improverac at in Ireland ? The spiritual influ-
ence of the priesthood. What, if such be their
opinions, sl_could rational men do? Everything in
their power r to lessen that spiritual influence.
Statesare n and legislators undertake to guard
the people- from evil. They make -laws against
overloadir a• coaches, to prevent the people from
being inju red. A-few accidents on railways have
given rise to a new law, to place them under the
superinte; adence of the Government, to ensure
the safe !.ty of the limbs of the lieges.
Public-ho uses are closed at an early hour,
fairs have b een suppressed, bull-baiting and a
score of oth, 3r pursuits have been put down, for
the purpose of keeping the grown babies which
constitute tb e public from coming to harm. Ac-
cording to tl ie outcry of the Tories the influence
of the Ror 3h priesthood corrupts the minds and
souls of tl 3.( .! people, and is infinitely more inju-
rious than gin, bull-baiting, or fairs. Against that
noxious in ifluence, then, on all the principles pro-
fessed by die Tories, it is their duty to guard
the people They should protect them against
priestcraft, as against a deadly enemy. They
should wai n thorn against the priests, admonish
them to steel their hearts against spiritual seduc-
tion ana spiritual terror, and should at least take
as mach care of their minds as their bodies.
Now let us see how the Tories do this. Suppose
that the 1.4,?gi .slature, while it passed laws against
drunkenness, should confine them to getting
drunk on ; and suppose, while it fretted and
fumed, an d. made new enactments every Ses-
sion, becau s 4 3 the people would drink that parti-
cular spirit, . it should praise and reward those
who get drank ~on brandy ; suppose that it should
endow a In wse for the sale of brandy in every
street, caul e it to• be supplied duty free, release
it from
arj rent an d taxes, pay charming young
women to -wait on the customers, hire persons in
the u
re ss to w rite up the delights of brandy-
drir,king., carry the
.crown in solemn state to the
opening
ev( !ry new brandy shop, take care to
mark all ti tosc as disreputable who do not go at
least once t. very week to these patronised
places ;—s-
this—woul *pot -e the Legislature to do all
d any man say that it took the best
method to prevent drunkenness? But is not this
strictly r
,rialogous• to what it has done, and what

the Tories insist on its doing more and more ex-
tensively, to guard the people of Ireland against
the spiritual influence of the priesthood ? Do
they not denounce most vehemently what we
may call the spiritual gin drinking of the Ro-
manists, and patronise to an extravagant
degree the brandy guzzling of the Establishment?
Do they not, while they say the influence of one
priesthood is most pernicious, exert themselves
to the uttermost to establish the influence of an-
other ? Can such epithets as " Romish" or " Pro-
testant" make any difference in the nature and
character of the influence ? No. The influence is
the same in both cases, obtained by the same means
used to the same ends, used by similar men
for similar objects, and the inconsequent ignorant
Tories do continually exert themselves to create
that frame of mind in the people which they at
the same time proclaim to be most mischievous.
They know not what they do.
Of course, we speak of the Tories as statesmen,
not as individuals; and Whatever may be their
faith or their hopes as individuals, as states-
men they confine their exertions to public wel-
fare on earth. Political communities are not
promised immortality. There is no reason to
suppose that France, England, and Russia
will be revived beyond the grave. The Tories,
therefore, cannot, and do not patronise the
Establishment, and denounce the Romish priest-
hood, with any view or expectation of securing
the eternal happiness and greatness of the nation.
Their object is of a more earthly character.
Their ambition rather creeps on the surface of
the Jibe than soars into the sky. They pa-
tronise the Establishment to secure political ob-
jects. It is associated with Tory principles. It
preaches Tory doctrines. It forms a spiritual po-
lice for the circulation of Toryism. It is an as-
sistant instrument for enslaving the mind, and
securing the dominion of political charlatans;
and hence the Tories, who, by a series of blun-
ders, have been brought themselves into conflict
with Popery, with which they have a natural affi-
nity, zealously support the Establishment, and
decry Romanism.
The palpable limitation of the duties of states-
men to promote the present and earthly happi-
ness of the subject people, of course confines all
their duties, in relation to a Church Establish-
ment, to within the same narrow bounds. Whe-
ther a religion be true or false, whether a creed
will secure life hereafter or not, is, in relation to
their duties to the people, of infinitely less impor-
tance than whether or not it promote the public
welfare. In fact, they do not now support one
religion in preference to another, because it will
secure immortality, but because it will increase
the national happiness. The old plan of estab-
lishing truth by law, or by the sword, was
descredited as Mahomedanism went to de-
cay. The Tories object much more to the
political principle of a divided allegiance
belonging to Popery, than to the falsehood of
its creed. They want men to be heart and soul
their slaves, and they are equally inimical to
Dissent and Popery. They hate both, because
those whom they claim as theirs receive from
any religion, which is not the Establishment, and
which is not in union with the Government,
another master. The political attributes of
Dissent verging to republicanism, and the po-
litical attributes of Romanism promoting obe-
dience to a spiritual superior, and not the
Truth or falsehood of Popery and Dissent, are the
only;,rounds on which Tory statesmen, claim-
ing simething like unlimited power for the
Crow object to these divergent branches of
Chris: ianity.
This limitation of the duty of statesmen in re-
lation to religious establishments, clears the
ground for a due appreciation of the utility of the
latter. That is, however, much too large a ques-
tion now to discuss. We shall confine ourselves
to observing, that it must be proved that they
now promote—not that they promoted in past
times, which may be conceded—the morality
of the people, the civilization of society, the se-
curity and protection of men's rights, the exten-
sion of freedom, and the increase of wealth and
population. If they do not effect these, the great
objects which circumscribe the duties of states-
men, they must not be upheld. Our readers can
apply these principles for themselves. We
agree with the Tories that the spiritual
terrors wielded by the Romish and other
priesthoods, are most pernicious, but they
will not agree with us, that as long as legislators
take care of the bodies of the people, it must
also be their duty to guard the minds of the peo-
ple from the influence of priestcraft. Before
they support or extend religious establishments,
they must learn correctly to appreciate their
public utility, and discountenance the error that
any priesthood is endowed with power to pro-
mote the welfare of society, or secure the eter-
nal happiness of individuals.

HOW TO EVADE A JUST CLAIM;
A NEW WAY TO PAY OLD DEBTS.

Only thirty-seven Members assembled in the
House on Thursday afternoon at four o'clock, while
thirty-eight Members waited in the Library to
abide the event ofa House, or no House. What
excellent jockeyship ! How worthy of liberal
men, who would be honest but for their neces-
sities. Enough for the day is the evil thereof;
but trickery will not avail in the long run and
the Danish claims will continue to haunt the
Exchequer until justice, too long deferred, be
done at last. Your " thorough Liberal" makes
an excellent mock-Reformer, but a very sorry
Legislator.

In our City article of yesterday afternoon will be
found a rumour of preparations making by Lord
PALMERSTON to enforce the liberation of Mr.
LEOD, still in confinement in the United States.
Ten sail of the line are said to have been ordered
to assemble at Gibraltar, and thence to pro-
ceed direct to the American coast, prepared to
act in case of emergency. We further
understand that Lord PALMERSTON has sent
instructions to Mr. Fox, our Ambassador at
Washington, to demand peremptorily the imme-
diate release of Mr. APLEon. The affair begins
to wear a very serious complexion.

We have much pleasure in directing attention
to some excellent resolutions passed on Thursday
at the Hammersmith Reform Club with refer-
ence to Lord MORPETH'S Bill. We cordially
agree in the sentiments expressed by the meet-
ing for doilig " justice to Ireland." Until real
and substantial justice be done to that unfortu-
nate country, the word Union is but mockery,
and equal laws and equal rights but gall and
wormwood superadded to oppression.

The Paris Journals of Wednesday have all
reached us. The Moniteur publishes two Royal
Ordinances—one authorising various changes in
the judicial appointments of the interior of
France'; the other ordering promotions in the
Marine Artillery. The National has a fierce at-
tack upon Marshal SOULT'S circular to the army.
In the Journal des Debats we find some corre-
spondence from Affghanistan, in which the writer
predicts a collision between England and Russia,
and expresses his conviction that whenever it takes
place England will be beaten in Asia. The in-
habitants of our Indian empire are, he says, dis-
contented, and wholly destitute of that spirit of
nationality which the Russian boors displayed
when their country was invaded by NAPOLEON.
In the event of an invasion of India by Russia
it is not to be supposed that England would trust
to the valour of native troops for the repulsion
of aggression. And in truth from the very
necessities of our position, we begin to suspect
that there is a greater chance of our invading
Russia than of Russia invading us. We must
conscientiously admit that we are as aggressive
as our neighbours.
According to the Uhivers, the report which was circulated
of pretended negotiations to render Syria independent is without
foundation. That journal says, however, that the French Go-
vernment has entered into negotiations at Vienna; London, and
Constantinople, for the purpose of securing to the Christian
inhabitants of Syria all the advantages and all the guarantees
of the protection of France. We may easily foresee that these
negotiations will end in nothing.
The expedition to New Zealand has decidedly failed. The
Aube returns to France. Wherever Captain Lavaux appeared
he found English settlements and officers of that nation, who
were instructed to announce to him the sovereignty of Eng-
land in that country. Several settlers who arrived on board.
the Comte de Paris were landed, and resolved to remain, con-
senting to become British subjects.
We find the following notice in the Eco del Commercio of
Madrid .f the '24th of February :
Marshal Saidanha, the Ambassador Extraordinary of Portu-

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