The Sun.
London, England, 1846-06-20 00:00:00

GROUT 11.

The Select Committee appointed to consider the merits of the Bills
omprised in this group re-assembled at the usual hour this morning ;
lard Morpeth in tile chair.

WEST CORNWALL.

The consideration of this case was resumed. Evidence was ad-
:laced on behalf of the opposing landholders to the line. The object of
this evidence, it would seem, was to show that Mr. Brand had not
Aecured the best line the country would afford.
The Committee was occupied with the opposition until Its rising at
fmir

caIOUP XIII.
This Cou.mlttee met at 12. o'clock, 'lsar Wm. Clay In the chair,
GLASGOW AND BELFAST UNION.

The clauses of this Bill were proceeded with.
An argument of some length took place on a clause providing that
any company entering Ayr from Dalmellington should be allowed
free areems to the Glasgow and Belfast Union—Counsel for the
Ayrshire and Galloway contending that this company should be
named specially in the clause, and that certain rates for the use of
the former line should be specified, while Counsel on the other side
maintained that the clause should be general and open to all rail-
ways, and that the rates should be left for condderation of another
earl:intent, or to the Board of Trade.
The ?tom was then cleared, and, after being out for upwards of an
hour, the parties were called in.

The CHAtAMAN intimated that the Committee had proposed a
clause to meet the case in point, generally providing for the Minis-
a ion of any railway coming ti•om Dalmellington, which the Legisla-
ture might in future esnction, at certain rates of toll to be axed by
Arbitration.

The other clauses of the Bill were agreed to, and the Chairman
Hstructed to report the Bill, with the amendments, to the House.
CALEDONIAN EXTENSION.

The CHAIRMAN intimated that he had consulted the Speaker
respecting the point raised yesterday, and the Speaker concurred in
the opinion of the Committee, that parties petitioning against a
scheme had still a tom standi, though the promoters of it might de-
cide to withdraw a portion from the consideration of the Committee.
It being now near four o'clock the Committee adjoerued till
Mends'', at one o'clock.

GROUP XVII.
MANCHESTER AND SOUTHAMPTON.
(Continued &odour Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

Mr. lIATHEXTON protested against the chairman instituting com-
parisons between the testimony of the witness in his examination in
chief, and asked when his Learned Friend on the other side would
have an opportunity of cross-examining him as to his testimony. Ile

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was sure no member of the Committee would become en advocate of
the line sitting there, as they did, in their judicial capacity.
The CHAIRMAN said, without any wrangling, he would state why
he inetituted such a comparison between the testimony of the wit-
nessThPotatte rites iuteaengagedthatin
the
eusinlierie in
wouldthe
and of Mr. Addington, the gentleman to whom he referred.
Potteries,
he distinctly
he of the utmost benefit to him as he should'
several hundreds in the course of the year by the proposed
Manchestereci and Siouthampton line—the witness, whet was not en-
a-e e nave! trade, stated diametrically the reverse. He considered
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~,,,,:arterrn not engaged in the trade, but filling the avocet_
plnt. le they Drwas not a proper witness to give testimony on this
. thneee ente,„ought a person from the Potteries, who made a
I ..Ntr• kreist,,e".., th_ey would be Do
of the lin i --- l'''''' th mid to listen him.
es n thew 3,...e witness was
mony before the co --.'"'*nt. one whom the opponents
mullet,. considered
The examination ot tee .... a tit person to give teeti-
rated all he had stated, et„t% --e'ros was then conti
required by the wants of the daeeee_TallY dbintieroy lined. and he rette-
In his cross-examination by 11;,„.. *dot the line, as not
that he did not know the cost of geeeh,rut VfnAnoillat, he
Mersey. The cost of sending a ton ee ilmTin to the ____ stated
and
Southempton would be 10s. a ton to
8n...7m of the
Innis from
Mr. f,ergeant WRANGHAM called his attention ee_
Mdington had stated that the cost of getting e ter ofteet that Ur,
north wits 30s. It was unlikely that they would wet il!Lad te the
and the charge was only 10,,C Present
route if the line were made, a ten in.
stead of 305.
Nitre-- if Mr. Allitay, a tattle dealer, or any pew,
nowt
thee lie and hie friends drove 60,000 sheep to Gloucester, and sent
them to the north by the exiting railway in the course of a year, he
should not believe
'him. Ile wee certain lie would not make such a
seiternent before men of litteinass in the locality.
In his cross-examination by Mr. ALEXANDER, he stated that he
gave evidence last year before the Oxford, Worcester, and Welver-
liampton Committee, to the effect that direct railway communication
wean Droitwieli to the south, fur the conveyance of salt for agricul-
tned purposes, woidd be advantageous. lie. was of that opielon still.
Mr. W. Griffiths, residing in the Isle of Wight, produced a speci-
men of the sand ritiseil there for the purpose of being converted inte
glees, and stated that the conveyance it the commodity by ships Wili
preferable to a railway. A yee.sel carried from 100 to 110 tons.
In his croise•examination, he stated that several days were occupied
in tea-hinge vessel—sometimes several weeks—and that it would be
of advantage to be able to carry It away in small quantities.
Mr. Hangerfield, coach-mutter at Cheltenham, formerly ,rail
ceaehes from Cheltenham to Southampton, but discontinued them as
they were unprofitable ; but attributed this in a great measure to
the opening of the existing railway ; if. however, he were going to
Southampton, ha should use the most direct line. The inhabitants
of Cheltenham were migratory, and went frequently to Southampton
and the Isle of Wight.
Mr. B. Palmer, lessee of the Luggershall-gate, on the road between
Southampton and Cheltenham, said the tolls amounted to 2001. a
year, but the tratSc from the neighbouring fairs did not come that
wen so that that gate was not a fair criterion. The large tolls were
not taken at that gate, and some thousand persons going north did
not come through it.
The Committee then adjourned till one o'clock on Monday.

GROUP XVIII.
EXETER DISTRZOT.
The Committee met at the usual hoar, 31r. B. D0h1,5011 in tho chair.

The Committee proceeded this morning with the consideration of
the various clauses of the Exeter, Yeovil. and Dorchester, and the
London, Salisbury, and Yeovil Railway Bills.
The clauses relating to the tolls were postponed.
The several other clauses having been agreed to,

etnhae
terhereiantsellt'Cisotne,rinZtkoimngp Company, yitn, proposed
lay down additional rails for the accommoda-
tion the company to
ettrearmactiodflt-heoeviiiln.e.
objected to it on the grounds of the inconveni-
ence Mr. MR/tRIMETHER
t o CommitteeSL°ntit) o; recommend mot in.
it wont
The room was then cleared.
tion of the broadd,
a ugsaeutg
Upon the parties being called in they were informed that the Com-
mittee e betweenthrongElxi
had decided that the line should be laid down in this manner.
Rather an animated discussion took place at this period of the
business.
The CHAIRMAN stated, that he wished to call the attention of the
parties, but more especially of Mr. Saunders, the secretary to the
Great Western, to a statement which had been made to him by Mr.
Creed, the Committee clerk, to the effect that some observations had
been made in the course of a conversation hich he (Mr. Creed) had
had with Mr. Saunders outside the door of the Committee,
Mr. Saunders having stated, that be had taken advan-
tage of his situation, as clerk to the Committee, to make re-
marks, or give expression to certain opinions calculated to
prejudice the minds of the Committee against the scheme of the
Great Western. Now he (the Chairman) begged to state, to jus ice
to Mr. Creed, that in the opinion of the Committee that gentleman
had not, in the slightest degree, overstepped the bounds of his duty
as a servant to the House of Commons, and further, that anything
he might have stated to the Committee would not, in the
slightest degree, have affected the decision to which the
Committee would have felt it their duty to arrive. If the charge
was pet,isted in by Mr. Saunders, of course he shoal think it his
duty to represent the case to the House.
Mr. Cocstauax stated that the interference alluded to by Mr.
Saunders, had been very generally noticed by the members of the bar
among themselves.

The CUAIRMAN did !tot think that such charges could be brought
against that gentleman, at least, however, so far as that Committee
was concerned, he would say there was not the slightest ground for
such charge ; he had not, in the opinion of his Hon. Colleagues, done
any more than wes actually required of hint in his capacity as clerk
to the Committee.

The matter then dropped.
After so'ue discussion a c:ausc was Inserted for the protection of
he property of the Earl of Digby.
The Conunitte e then adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow.