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') (Sir G. Grey) thought that that individual might
'af, iy left in the hands of the Police Commissioners.
htugho
POST-OFFICE COMMUNICATION (DUBLIN).
v. Mr. G. lIA.MILTON begged to a,k the Chancellor of
I;zehcque r whether it was the intention of Govern-
", in consequence of the acceleration of railway con-
rPloce between London and Dublin, to make any ar-
i-nligeznent for the transmission of letters for Dubin by
afternoon train, so as to afford persons in London
_un receive letters from Dublin in the morning, the
luportuaity of answering them and of the answers realt.
segeelerDublin the following morning •,' or of otherwise
Ind ating the transmission of letters between London
Dublin?
CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, who
the Arseery imperfectly heard in the gallery, stated that
t'ee question put by the Hon. Member had been under
ti:r_cionsideration of the Post office authorities, but the
kaTt the railway company fur conveying an extra.
_.e rain .were so exorbitant as to be quite out of their
11,r to accept.
He hoped that when the Chester and
tq°,,-I"ead line was- finiNhed, some terms might be come
co wt that company, if nut with the North-Western
/11Pany.

OrdSPECIAL CONSTABLES.
ING -
op ES FRE asked the Right Hon. Baronet
stPosue if he could ive any returns of the number c.f
eisl constables whcg, were sworn in on the 10th in-
'lltrto protect'the public peace..
stsbl G. GREY said that the number of special con-
bee es sworn in for the City was 23,000, but there had
14ts made out in other parts of the metropolis,
ttnd, al h
-nuid t °ugh they amounted to many thousands, he
Sir 11,4 state the exact number.
sppiecirt• PEEL said that many thousands who bad
the t° be sworn in could not, owing to want of
thin,'"i4;, !he numbers of sp, special constables were, as the
gh_ xioneurable Baronet had stated, very great; but as
notjCe°olcl Only be very imperfectly estimated, i; would
wcmid !tdvisable to have any returns made out, as they
L tend to mislead and not to inform.
ord
idea GESTRE said his motive was to. obtain some
lionds the expense attending the preparations made for
who ma. the 10th instant, in order to show those per .ons
easis '
de 20 .great a clamour about the taxes, what the
nlie of such escapades was.
Mr. Tim WELSH EDUCATION.
were b7ualE asked Sir G. GREY whether any
istnepos.
ran,. ',Leg taken to remedy the deplorable state of g d
to e;ileuieh the reports of the Commissioners had prove
Sir in Some parts of Wales?
bode,. "GREY said that the reports bad been placedh
Prit; thee care of the Committee of Education of t
Islte 8 °tined; the Government was very anxious to
mrome steps in the matter.
took WILLIAMS asked if the Commissioners who
Wale"idenee and reported on the state of education i
Sirs*understond the Welsh language ?
iaquiry
°Y a com b
GREY said tey had een
assisted during the
petenth Welsh scholar.
// CHARITABLE FUNDS.
be II CHARITABLE
asked if any Bill on this subject was to
seilrP,euted during the present session ?
°bar ".(GREY said that the Lord Chancellor was
other
Re a Bill, which he would introduce in the
Souse of Parliament.
In
Lord
THE QUADRANT.
LorPs.wer to a question from Sir D. L. EVANS,
Att„,." aIORPETH said that his Learned Friend. the
subgte.Y-General was charged with a Bill on the above

Lord ,j. THE EASTER HOLIDAYS.
RUSSELL—I Would et
heel ,s_ate, as early as I possibly could,
promised the other doaoyldthparto!
the .);11° the time when I could preposwehtaotawdjourn for
make
Would aster holidays, Any arrangement I
b Tertm e subject to the passing of the Crowmrilalaynd Go-
r_e :t Security Bill ; but, supposing that B. to pass
oli,hiontiSe, I should
4'l • Ale ,
on
propose on Wednesday, with a view
that mbers returning to the country
h t
the uerlcuse should ad' urn from the Wednesday to
the 1,0 Saturday following, arid° then, on the Saturday t a
.:41 use should further adjourn until Monday, the Ist
eitalaY.—(Hear hear.)
IDWN AND'GO SECURITY GOVERNMENT
The re
Ja
Ou port of this Bill was brought up. BILL.
e motion that it be received,
,%4AGLIONBY moved the insertion of the follow-
11t3elaUse:—" And be it enacted, that if an?, person
th °ever, after the passing of this Act, sha within
t •
ievent, od Kingdom or without, compass, imagme,
Graci devise, or intend to deprive or depose our Most
fee, Ins Lady the Queen, her heirs or successeorras:
ero epier
„ die honour, or royal name of the imp
l
jestw- '3l this United Kingdom. or of any other of her Ma-
ytiaa dominions and countries, or tole vy war against her.e
her heirs or successors, within any part .of tri
ee..-I'eu Kingdom, in order by force or constraint, to
,;(::(IPol her or them to change her or their measures or
vu.neils, or in order to put any force or constraint upon,
eVi order to intimidate or overawe both Houses or
r "er 4 rusty
Parliament, or to move or stir an fe-
iWer nger with force to invade the United
tothlig,d6ll3. or any other her Majesty's dominions or
er'n‘riea under the obeisance of her Majesty, her heirs,
11...succe'ssers, and such compassings, imaginings, inven-
Ques, devices, or intentions, or any of them, shall ex-
ress, utter, or declare, by open and advised speaking,
'very person so offending shall be guilty of unisdeinta
11011 r, and shall be liable to be apprehended and to be
etlatnitted to prison, and to be there kept without bail or
tainprise until discharged by due course of law, and
of tog convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion
the Court before which such person shall be so con-
ie,
ft);_ed, to be imprisoned, with or without hard labour,
term not exceeding two years.
~, Ile ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to the clause.
.t he House agreed with his Honourable and Learned
ierelueindd in making the offence recited misdemeanor, it
'ern be traversable, and thus defeat the end the Go.
prevention and
eWent had in view, namely, prompt
ndni'llnlm- Another objection he had was,
wtheart,w,_h_tmle,
prCer the law as it stood ;at present, thoe_p_onini,
to any
4,11034311rnent was given without limit, and f
:cunt; his Honourable Friend proposed to limit he-
hrelitt:lnneenot to two years and to abolish the power of
sir;
.I.t
_gether.
of• tib ME would support the clause as a mitigation
xra_rnost coercive law.
iee7' r• O'CONNOR did not see any value in
athepaortby
lun' raised by the Attorney-General. If
himself
at the end of one assize,
re-
he would only doom
to eight months' additional imprisonment p
ittla to- its successor.
44e54r$ ItS
the;.. ...UNTZ and S. CRAWFORD severally expressed
intention of supporting the clause.
J' no House then divided, when there appeared—
For the clause
Against ll7
Sir Nce. c Majority 67
and . LAY brought up the fcllowing amendment
„tor ,Istuse :—ln clause 3, line 16, to omit, after the
and Writing," the following words, "or by open
," le ,rie
dvised sp ' eaking " and to add the following clause
e.'u_ Bill, in lieu of the words so omitted :—And be it
%Vt], that if any person shall, at any time after. the
;-,__lntog of' this Aet, have been held to bail for a !uncle-
Shvalle.Ur in respect of seditious words or speaking, and
effenene again charried with a second or subsequent
othe e of a like kind', it shall be lawful for the justice or
efmagistrate, before whom he shall be so charged, to
taubiliarequee to admit such person to bail on such second or
nt ch. The . Baronet he altered that that hisarge amendment Hon would an every neces-
tr p nrrsose,
r while it would prevent every vulgar
lionm sedition from being invested with an adventi-
• iroportanee.
Sir G
*tient . ' GREY said that the Hon. Barenet's amend-
„ If inserted at all should have come in before that
the'us'llon. Member for Cockermouth. He must oppose
i_no as he opposed the other.-
teen:BRIGHT approved of the Hon. Baronet's amend-
foe iif a division took place should certainly vote
in t He thought that Government would do better
1149!ting to the good feeling of the people of Eng-
.!...tiart by insisting on all the coercive provisions of
AGLIONBY feared that the only effect of the
clause would be to inflict a more serious punishment on
"eortein class of offences than waa•intended by the ori-
ginal Bill.. •
After some further conversation the House divided,
When there appeared—
. For the clause
Against it
Majority 44
The amendment conceded by the Attorney-General
on a previous evening, to tho effect that informations
Must be sworn within six days after the commission of
the offence, and the magistrate's warrant issue within
ton days from that period, was then brought up.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR said that no one could swear ac-
curately to words six days after they were spoken. He
would undertake to report a six hours' debate, even if it
'were on the budget, giving the regular order of
the speakers almost literally, but he could not do it
on the expiration of six days
.—(A laugh.) lie corn
plaint of a law which did not stop a man at once
_when doing wrong, but literally laid a trap for
timMr, so that he might convict himself. The Right Hon.
the
tenure of the Government was not worth ten days'
Mr. AG LILO:lb Ile
rYlobserved, that what had fallen from
the Hon,
with the Omni.) under or
.Nottingham had nothing to do
proviso
nochscussion.—(llear, hear.) In his
opinion, the
part of it wl.w2roposed by Ministers, passing
over that
te rated to the issuing of the
warrant, went to mitiga
the extension of ti e.severity of the Bill; but to
freoprienselex to sixteen days between
the commission of the
warrant he decidedly objected. ,aphd the issuing of the
Tarrant ought to
issue immediately after the lod in e o the information
on oath, because the greater the el
greater would
be the difficulty in obtaining evidenace theio contradict the
report on which the information was founded. He ad-
to that time should be given-to- transmit the
ielle:iarorat
to the authorities, and for them to decide whether
prosecution should issue or not, but a day or two would
be sufficient for that purpose.
a e (t) of
Mr. REYNOLDS also objected to theagi a t extensionrt
time. At present the law required the m
issue his warrant in all cases of felony instanter, but if
in prosecutions arising under this Bill he were:permitted
to withhold it for ten days after the information he
might become a partisan. He should move to shorten
the period in which the information should be lodged to
three days after the commission of the offence, and that
the warrant should issue forthwith.
Mr. WALPOLE suggested the insertion of the word
"only" after the words " open and advised speaking,"
Ito as to confine the delay to cases of spoken words.
The ATTORNRY-GENERAL was willing to adopt
the suggestion as to the word " only;" but with regard
to the proviso generally, contended that it was more
favourable to the subject than the Bill as it originally
stood. No one could desire that charges of this descrip-
tion should originate with private prosecutors, and if
they were to originate with the Government it was ne-
cessary that they should have time to consult the law