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TEA SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY, EyENING, JULY 21, 1848,,

monstrous and yet so powerless a chimera ? So ma-
nifest have these grievances become, that their hour of
doom has arrived, their continuance is altogether
impossible even with the powerful support which will
in all likelihood be given for their perpetuation.
Granting, even for the sake of argument, that the Ad-
ministration were frustrated by the present Parliament,
that Parliament would forthwith be dissolved, and an
appeal to the country would then assure the noble
and patriotic endeavours of the Government.

that even supposing it to be correct to the utmost
extent, there existed no suth necessity as could pos-
sibly justify the degrading and brutalising exhibition.
As to the offence, it was doubtlesS a grave one, nd
the preservation of military discipline loudly de-
manded that it should be checked in a strong
manner ; but would riot a sufficient example
have been made by a long continuance of
incessant drill, and close confinement, together
with the stoppage of the ordinary liberty and comforts
of the delinquent ? We doubt not that such a course
would have been found fully as efficacious for the pre-
vention of a similar offence. The regiment was not
in such a situation as to make its safety dependent
on a prompt and vigorous example. Neither
could the soldiers be said to be in
such a state of insubordination as to
render such a punishment necessary. At all events,
if such was the case, it speaks trumpet-tongued
against the efficacy of such a system, for it was
sworn in evidence before the Coroner "that the punish-
ment in that regiment was more severe than in any
other in the army ;" and the witness stated " that he
had seen an extraordinary degree of punish-
ment in the regiment while on service in America."

A very interesting discussion took place last night
in the House of Lords upon a motion of the Earl of
Pow's, that the St. Aiaph and Bangor and Man-
chester Dioceses Bill be read a second time.

The object of the Bill is to prevent the see of St.
Asaph merging into that of Bangor, upon the decease
of the bishop of the former. The motion was opposed
by the Government—the Marquis of LANSDOWNE
taking the lead—and, after a very animated debate,
was carried by a majority of 10; the numbers being,
in its favour, 38; against it, 28. The Marquis of
LANSDOWNE subsequently stated that the Govern-
ment would offer no further opposition to the
measure, but would leave the expediency of
proceeding with it entirely with the Earl of
Powis. So far, then, as the Upper House is eon-
t!erned, it may be taken that, should Lord Powis
persevere, his measure will pass. The lateness of
the session, and the great measure which Lord JOHN
RussELL last night launched for discussion, and
which will be keenly and elaborately discussed, ut-
terly preclude any chance of the Earl of Pown's
Bill being this year passed into a law. There
is, indeed, scarcely a prospect of its being even noticed
in the House of Commons before the rising of Par-
liament. Should it turn out otherwise, we venture
to predict, as well from a general view of the question
as from the fact, that, though the voice of the Govern-
ment did not prevail last night, their opinions remain
unaltered, the Commons would certainly reject the
measure.

The heart sickens at the description given of the
revolting exhibition. The whips, or cats, with
handles eighteen inches long, with a number of
thongs about the same length knotted, and three of the
five produced in court stained with the blood of our
fellow• creatures—of those who had devoted them-
selves to the service of their country—who had left
home and friends, and given up their own
liberty for the public service. The cats, too,
that were used on the occasion, it appeared,
were those with dark handles, in which the
thongs and handles were heavier, the cords and knots
thicker and larger than the other. The farrier, by whom
the lashes were laid on, was changed at every 25 blows,
in order that the stroke might be administered with
sufficient strength and vigour, and a new cat brought
into operation after the first 100 lashes. In other
regiments trumpeters, who- are boys, are selected as
the floggers ; but in the happy 7th Hussars, this duty
devolves upon the farriers, men whose arms are, from
the nature of their avocations, hardened and
strengthened, and who are therefore enabled
to strike much harder. There is no mercy
for the wretched sufferers. The instrument of torture
was flourished twice in the air between each blow,
which was delivered with all the power and force of
the striker, as it was sworn that if he did not do so,
he would be liable to be punished himself. It is not
astonishing that there was a great discharge
of blood before the whole was completed,
which ran down over the victim's over-
alls, or that several of the men dropped
down fainting. The men who would fearlessly have
braved the hostile ranks were unable to sustain the
horrifying spectacle of pain and anguish inflicted on
a fellow• creature. When all was terminated, the
mild and merciful Colonel TirHYTE steps forward and
speaks actually of the brutality of the conduct of
the poor young man, and at that moment utters fur-
ther threats as to what he will do on a future
occasion, even at that moment speaking of a re-
petition of the punishment, in the event of another
offence. In what light does he think his own con-
duct, in standing by with folded arms, not interfering,
although he had it in his power to lessen the
punishment, will be regarded by any man of
common feeling or common humanity ? Whether
will his victim or himself be thought to have acted
in the most brutal manner ? Alas ! how often
shall we speak of the mote in the eye of our brother,
and little regard the beam in our own ? One witness
says, in speaking of the appearance of the unfortu-
nate man's back after the lashing, "I can't compare
it to anything but to a person who had been cut to
pieces." It is needless to descant upon the harrow-
ing details given in evidence of the discharge of matter
from the wounds, the complaint of the burning pain in his
chest on the second day after the flogging, the boils
breaking out on the injured place, the description of
these pains in the chest and back to the surgeon of
.the regiment, who attempted to cheer him by
saying that he had been punished for no disgraceful
crime, and his admission to the deceased that it was
to the punishment he owed his illness. Is it—
can it be possible that our countrymen, who
have so willingly contributed, who have made
such sacrifices, for the abolition of slavery and its
attendant lash, will consent to a greater degree of
barbarity being sanctioned at home at our very
thresholds, because a regiment has the misfortune
of having a martinet for its commander ? We
feel that such is not the case, and we
cannot doubt but that the irresistible voice
of public opinion will loudly demand the
abolition of corporeal punishments, and the re-
moval from command of men who so grossly abuse
the power entrusted to their hands, should such a
result follow, WHITE will not have died in vain.
His sufferings and death will ransom many of his
brother soldiers from similar inflictions. Had not death
ensued, the public would have heard nothing of the
abominable cruelty perpetrated; the veil of mystery
which hung over the proceedings could not be re-
moved by anything less weighty than the death of a
victim. Thousands of cases more wantonly and un-
mercifully inflicted, might be found if the annals
were searched, and the causes of the various punish-
ments fully investigated. Take that of the other
victim, MATTHEWSON, who had been but seven
weeks in the regiment when be attracted
the attention of the humane Colonel WHYTE.
We give his own sworn evidence verbatim, it
requires neither note or comment on our
part; but we do say that if he has truly stated the
cause, the strongest advocate for the necessity of
military flogging must admit that its infliction in
such a case was never contemplated, and that the
man who would demand and sanction such a punish-
ment for such an offence is a disgrace and stain to
the service. We trust that an inquiry will take
place into the management of the regiment that will
afford an opportunity to Colonel WHYTE of satisfying
the public as to the manner in which he has dis-
charged his duty as commanding officer. The fol-
lowing is the evidence of the man MATTUEWSON,

It will be in the recollection of our readers, that in
1835 a Commission was appointed, Comprising many
of the bishops, to consider the state of the Esta-
blished Church. They reported, inter alia, that it was
not advisable to increase the number of bishops, but
that it was desirable, by a union of certain sees,
to constitute bishoprics in parts of the country
where the want of spiritual superintendence
was severely felt. They especially recommended
that a bishop should be appointed for Manchester,
and that this object should be accomplished by
uniting the dioceses of St. Asaph and Bangor.
This arrangement subsequently met with the
approval of Parliament, as well as many others
of an admirable description; the general ten-
dency of which was to equalise the labours
and to produce, as far as was practicable, a
due proportion of emolument among the bishops.
We hope,4herefore, that a comprehensive scheme of
ecclesiastic4l reform, which has been so cautiously
entered upon, and hitherto been found to answer so
well, will not be disturbed by the piece-meal legisla-
tion of the Earl of Powts. The bishopric of Ripon
has been established by virtue of the Commission
already alluded to, and is answering all the
wholesome expectations that led to its for-
mation. Earl GUEY admitted there was an
improved feeling in the country towards the
Church, and greatly attributed it to the reforms
effected by the Church Commission. Would it not
then be the height of impolicy to make a retrograde
movement, when the work of ecclesiastical reform is
progressing so favourably ? By the present ar-
rangement Manchester will continue to be
without a bishop till, the intended union be-
tween the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor shall have
been effected by the death of one of their bishops.
Ten years have already 'elapsed time it has been
determined that Manchester ought to have her epis-
copal want supplied; and, comparing the importance
of that city and its teeming population with the dis-
trict proposed to be annexed to the see of Bangor, it
is greatly to be lamented that financial considerations
have alone necessitated a procrastination.
It is observable, as the Marquis of LANSDOWNE
well reminded the Earl of Powrs and their Lord-
ships, that \Vales has already largely participated in
the reformatory fruits of the Commission, and
has realiised a balance in its favour of two
thousand pounds a year. Whilst th;.s benefit
was accruing a very obsequious silence was
maintained. "It was an odd coincidence," said
Lord LANFDOWNE, "that the Principality of \Vales
brought forward this question just at the time that it
had received the maxitnum of all it could receive—
(Laughter)—and when the whole of those proceed-
ings were finally carried into effect, as recommended
by the Commissioners." Wales has made no scruple
of partaking in a reform affecting the whole of the
Church of the United Empire, but when the time
may soon arrive that, for the general benefit, a merely
titular sacrifice must be made, they put forth a cry
of "reckless spoliation," and dream that the bare fact
of a particular bishopric being very ancient, ought
to prevail against the solemn deliberations of
Parliament, sanctioned years ago, and that a
measure, matured under the advice of nu-
merous spiritual heads, should be at once
flung to the winds. The duties attendant upon a
onion of St. Asaph and Bangor, and their extent of
area, would, as alleged by Lord STANLEY, in some
instances, when compared with other see 3, be ten-
fold less. Again, since the Commission was issued,
the population of the proposed diocese of.
Manchester has added to itself a number greater
than that of the entire population of the
united diocese of St. Asaph and Bangor. That
St. Asaph is a very ancient bishopric is undeniable ;
but the respectable age to which Old Gatton and
Sarum had reached, weighed as a feather in the scale
of reason when the Refoini Bill was proposed
to Parliament. Some people are rather venture-
some in their appeals to alitiquity, and oftentimes nn •
wittingly supplying materials for astonishment that
things have been suffered so long to go on without
reform.

A good deal was elicited, in'the course of the de-
bate, with respect to the opinions of some of their
Lordships, touching the important questions of whe-
ther there should be an augmentation in
the number of bishops, • and also whether
new bishops should have seats in the
House of Lords. Upon the first point, we think
their Lordships will do well to bear in mind the
advice which the Duke of WELLINGTON tendered to
them some time ago. His Grace recommended the
Church to complete,the work ofits own internal reform,
before they invited the country to incur any addi-
tional burdens for the support of the Establishment.
The Church will, therefore, act wisely in limiting
her efforts, for the present to the prospering of her
own handiwork, already auspiciously in progress.
Upon the second point, we imagine that the general
tone of Lord LAN spowNE's observations, and especially
the distinct avowal of Earl GREY, will be read with ireat
gratification by those who are warmly attached to
the Established Church ; and may do something to
silence the calumnies of those who confidently pre-
dicted that her MAJESTY'S present advisers would
strive to weaken the Protestant hierarchy. " with
respect to giving new bishops a seat in
the House of Lords, his
own opinion
was, that if a new bishopric were created,
the prelate should take his seat 911 that bench. He
attached a great value to the presence of bishops in
that House." Such was the language of Earl GREY,
a member of the Government, who, more than any other,
it has been flippantly promulgated, is inimical to the
religious Establishment of this country.

viz..-

"By the Coroner—l was punished for insolence to a ser-
geant, in calling out Halloa ' in a stable. He did not
come in and call me. When he came in he said, What do
you mean by answering that way?' It was Sergeant
Temple. I said, I did not know who called me;' but he
continued reprimanding me, and I said, Do you want me to
go down on my knees to you ?' He then ordered me on
fatigue duty. I was then taken up be:ore Colonel Whyte,
and he ordered me into a week's solitary confinement.

asked him what wayl was to answer, and he ordered a court-
martial for insolence to my commanding officer, and I had
100 lashes. When I went into the hospital the doctor
never came to see me until the next morning. I went into
the hospital at half-past twelve o'clock. White, the deceased,
dressed my back. Saw the surgeon the next day at half-
past ten o'clock. He ordered me nothing more than luke-
warm water to my back for six days. Came out of the hos-
pital this day. My back is not well now, properly speaking.
Had boils on my back and pains in my side, back, and chest,
the same as White complained of. Had great pain in my
chest the next morning, and difficulty of breathing, attended
with pain. My back was dressed, but White's was not.
Three or four days afterwards the pain left the cheat and
came to the sides. It would sometimes leave for two or
three hours, and then come back again. Had no medicine
for
it.
drawbreath; leei t l atilt e
feels
thesn
as
if something
sides. Did not mention it to the surgeon." intown
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The Gazette of Zurich publishes a letter from
Berne, dated July 13, which states that the Council
of the Constitution had that day terminated their de-
liberations, and that the project for the new constitu-
tion had been adopted by a majority of 88 Members
to 9 who voted against it. It was reported at Berne
that in Lucerne all the inhabitants liable to military
service, and even the landstrum, had been called out.
The Executive Council of Berne had dispatched an
officer to Hatwyl to ascertain the real state of affairs.
At Geneva, on the 15th, an act of fraud on the part
of the Jesuit conductors of the institute of Onex was
discovered. They had assumed the title of members
of the Academy of Geneva, a title to which they had
no right whatever, and the head of the academy has,
by a public protest, given a' formal denial to their
assumption of it.

The Coroner's inquest on
JOHN WHITE, the unfortunate
soldier of the ith
Hussars, who came by his death,
the body of FREDERICK
as it is alleged, in
flicted on him on the 15th June last, resumed its
consequence of the severity of the punishment in-
sittings yesterday, and heard evidence on part of the
case, viz., on the fact and nature of the punishment,
and the health of the ill-fated young man before and
after the flogging. P
A question was also asked by
...._ r. BOWRING, in the
house of commons, on the same subject, which
called forth an explanation from Mr. Fox MAULE.
This must be considered as the defence of the mili-
tary gentlemen responsible for the punishment, and
arraigned at the bar of public opinion, for
their participation in the shocking transaction ;
it must, therefore, be looked on with some
degree of suspicion, but WC fearlessly assert

The Frankfort Pact Gazette has the following
under the date of Neisse (Prussian Silesia), July 9 :
" As the three protecting Powers have decided that
the free state of Cracow shall henceforth be occupied
by Austrian troops only ; the Prussian troops will
leave on the 12th of this month, and the Russian
troops will retire into the interior of Puland.
That portion of the Great Central Hungarian Rail-
way which goes from Pesth to Waizer has been
recently opened.
The spring fair of Frankfort has turned out more

favourably than was expected. Printed cottons and
woollen stuffs found numerous•purcbasere. Manu-
factures of cotton and wool mixed, which at the
commencement of the fair were very heavy, sold ex-
ceedingly well towards the conclusion, and such was
the demand for calicoes, that every piece was sold.
The supply was not sufficient to meet the demand.

Madrid Papers to the 14th have arrived. They
contain no intelligence whatever.
The Three per Cents. were done at 33 for cash ;
the Five per Cents., at 20j ; the Debt without In-
terest, at 6 ; the Shares of the Bank of San Fer-
nando, at 390; and those of Isabel, at 200.

We have received the Paris papers of Sunday. They
are filled with electioneering polemics, but these
polemics are merely personal ; neither party avows
any great principle, and the contest is almost avowedly
a mere squabble for place between the ins and the
outs.

On the 17th the miners out on strike at Anzin and
St. Vaast, requested permission to resume their work,
and at four o'clock in the morning 1,500 of them re-
turned to the mines. The miners of Denain, who
were also out on strike, on hearing what had taken
place at Anzin, also immediately resumed their
labours. These men have all returned to their work
without tvling any conditions of their mas-
ters. This happy result is attributed mainly
to the very judicious measures adopted by the
authorities, more particularly to the spirit of
mingled conciliation and firmness displayed by M.
MAURICE DUVAL, the Prefect of the department,
and M. PETIT DE LA FOSSE, the Sub-Prefect of the
district.

The Journal des Debats announces the death of M.
VINCENT CIIELNIICKI, formerly Nuncio of the Diet of
the kingdom of Poland. This illustrious Pole died
at Chantilly on the 3d of this month.
The Algiers journals of the 11th and 12th give
long accounts of the arrival and entry in state into
the city of M. PAvY, the newly-appointed Bishop of
Algiers. M. DE SALVANDY continues his excursions
in the neighbourhood of Algiers, and was to leave on
the 16th for Oran and Constantina.
The advices from Oran are to the 12th.
Some troops had been dispatched on the 3d
towards the Morocco frontier, in consequence
of the appearance in that neighbourhood of some hos-
tile Arab cavalry.

" M. LAVAUD," says the National, " who is to re-
place M. BRUAT in the government of Oceania, will
sail in the month of September, in the frigate Danae."
There has been a terrific storm of hail, rain, and
wind, which has done immense damage in the neigh-
bourhood of Lyons. The hailstones were some of
them as large as eggs. The vintage has been en
tirely destroyed, and the grain crops have been
most severely injured. Several houses were blown
down by the wind.
The Moniteur publishes the returns of the manu-
facture and consumption of beet-root sugar in France
to the Ist of July inst., from which it appears that
there are 306 factories in activity, being twelve more
than at the corresponding period of 1845. The quan-
tity of sugar manufactured during the year amounted
to 39,403,754 kilogrammes (nearly 40,000 tons); the
amount sold for consumption, 35,690,608 ; and the
duties levied thereon, 9,187,615 f. (360,0001.) As
compared with the results of 1845, there was an in-
crease in the production of 3,863,504 kilogrammes
(3,863 tons) ; in the consumption, of 4,212,627;
and in the duties, of 3,142,457 f.
MARSEILLES, JULY 15.—Marseilles and Avignon, 865 f. ;
Northern, 710 f. ; Paris and Lyons, 522 f. 50c.
LYONS, JULY 17.—Marseilles and Avignon, 876 f. 25c.;
Paris and Orleans, 1,268 f. 75c. ; Rouen, 995 f. ; Lyons,
521 f. 25c. ; Vierzon, 635 f.; Great Northern, 713 f. 50c.

BUSINESS DONE IN FOREIGN RAILWAYS AT THE
LONDON STOCK EXCHANGE, JULY 20.

Boulogne and Amiens, 12% —Bordeaux, Toulouse, and Cette
(Mackenzie), —Central of Spain, a —Dutch Rhenish, 7—Louvain
and Jemappe, 1%—Luxembourg, I%—Lyons and Avignon, 1%—
Northern of France Constituted, 12% ex d.—Orleans and Bordeaux,
B—Over Yasel, 2% dis.—Paris and Lyons Constituted, 514—Amen
and [Zayre, 27—West Flanders, 3.

3,000 feet each, wbile they proposed to give 3,200 feet, with the
saving a gateway at present in existence, hut never used.
_ _ _

To Mr. Ilit.fs cross-examination, Mr. Tite replied that the
Warehouse he was about to give was a better one than the one
he had taken. He had been much engaged in building shops and
and warehouses, and had laid out and superintended the erection of
all the warehouses on the legal quays, from London-bridge to the
Tower, and was ready to have the decision of any respectable ar-
chitect, and the company would pay the difference, if against thew.
The taking of those warehouses was a part of the arrangement with
the Eastern Counties. Mr. Tite also affirmed his previsous asser-
tion respecting the assenting parties.
To the CHAIRMAN, Mr. HILL replied that it was proposed to bring
locomotives up to Fenchurch-street, and that neither authorities uor
individuals objected to it.

THE WEST INDIA. MAIL.
(From the Herald.)
SOUTHAMPTON, TUESDAY MORNING.-The Trent, Royal
mail steam-ship, Captain Rivett, arrived this morning, at
seven o'clock, from the West Indies, after a very fair passage•
She brings the usual mails.
The Trent brings advices down to the following dates,
viz. :—Jamaica, June 23d ; Demerara, 19th ; Trinidad, 20th ;
St. Jago de Cuba, 18th ; Barbadoes, 24th ; Grenada, 26th ;
Porto Rico, 28th; St, Thomas, 30th; and Fayal, July 14th.

. _
She haS on freight 2,9.70 dollars, on merchants' account;
1,9221. in British coin; 244 serons of sarsaparilla; 86 tierces
of coffee; a valuable box of pearls; 52 packages of succades,
arrow root, &c., &c. There are 91 passengers.
Her Majesty's schooner Pickle was at Jamaica when the
Trent left.

The Company's steamer Avon, sailed from Jamaica for the
Spanish Main on the 15th of June; the Dee, from Grenada,
on the 25th of June, for Jamaica; the Severn, on the 26th,
for Trinidad ; the Eagle, from Barbadoes, on the 24th, for
Demerara. The Reindeer was in the harbour of St. Thomas
on the 30th of June; the City of Glasgow was on the patent
slip at St. Thomas, preparatory to her departure for Eng-
land (via Madeira) on the 4th of July.
I learn by a private source that her Majesty's ship Endy
mon, 44 guns ; the Alarm, 26 ; Vesuvius steam sloop, 6 ;
Daring, 12; and Rose; 16; were in the Gulf of Mexico.
The Trent spoke HMS. steamer Avenger, with the Pacha
on board, on the 19th. In Ist. 20.36, long. 61.1'4, signalised
the brig Appleton, on the 2nd of July. On the 9th spoke
the brig Vesta, standing ,N.E., lat. 30.51, long. 44.19. All
well.
The Trent brings no news of importance from' the West
India Islands. It is, however, cheering to report that a
favourable change had taken place in the weather, and
that the long drought had been succeeded by copious and
seasonable rains in almost every island; it had, as a matter
of course, put the inhabitants in good spirits, and the pros.
pects of the crops are more encouraging.
At Trinidad, 19,000 hogsheads of sugar had been shipped
for England; the crop will be about 22,000 hogsheads. At
Barbadoes, the crop of sugar shipped for England amounted
to 15,000 hogsheads, and 10 or 12 vessels were still loading.
In Demerara the crops will be about a quarter short of last
year, on account of the long dry weather.

(From the Jamaica Dispatch of June 23.)
EXPORTS.

Sugar—Hogsheads and tierces were sold at from 235. dd.
to 30s. per 100 lbs.
Rum commands 3s. 9d. per gallon.
Exchanges on London.—Jamaica and Colonial Banks-30
days, 11/ per cent. pm. ; 60 days, 1 cent. pm. Planters'
Bank-30 days, 11/2 per cent pm. ; GO days, 1 per cent. pm. ;
90 days, ,4 per cent. pm. Commissary's Bills-30 days,
per cent. pm.

RAILWAY COMMITTEES

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

Boom C.
LONDON AND IMACILWAILI. (WIDENING).

The Committee re-assembled this morning, Lord llatherton in the
chair.

Mr, Mix, Q.C., who appeared for the promoters, after describing
the character and construction of the Illackwall line, stated that the
proposed improvement would bring upon this railway a gnat part of
the traffic now existing on the Eastern Counties and Northern and
Eastern Counties lines. It was proposed to widen the Blackwall
Railway from the City terminus to Stepney, the expense of which
would be about 240,0001. ; the works would only take at.out 50,0001.
or 60,0001.; the property to be purchased was valued at 178,5601., and
the land to be taken would afford sufficient space for a double line of
rails, although it was intended to lay down only a single line until
the increase of the traffic should justify the expense.
The only opponents who appeared in the other Wousewere the East
and West India Dock Company, and they were satisfied.
Mr. MEREWEVIEB. here stated that the City authorities, however,
were very much dissatisfied.
Mr. Iliac continued by saying, that although the City authorities
were not satisfied, they were not in a condition to appear against the
Bill. The C
nSg Sewers, the Forests,
Eastwe
tallre anasd
sleVnetsite
tlndias, soDt Dock
Compan'es, an
bit. Tite, architect ot the Royal Exchange, and surveyor
don and Blackwall Its stated, that the line
°lnd
nit
hisesl;:O3snaf
in fact, there was no legal opposition to the Bill..
had hf
at presentn two lines of rails from the Fenchurch-street
tepney, and that there was an Act sought for last session
a communication with the Eastern Counties line between
7.Soit':rtainit°lalo'k on
Stratford and Stepney, which had been then dropped, bpt which was
obtained this session. The quantity of land sought for, which was 22
feet in wiath, was one mile, five furlongs, and eight chains in length,
the value of which was as stated by Mr. 11111, including 13,0001. for
contingencies. It would be a great convenience to the East and
West India Dock Company, who
.already accommodated the public

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largely by the transmission of samples from the docks. (Here a plan
was put in which the witness explained to the Committee, by which
it appeared that 7.000 feet of warehouse room was taken
from the. West India Docks, which, in fact; was at
present lost to that company, and the Blackwall Com-
pany proposed to build warehouses here at their own expense,
so that ,this was an entire gain to the Dock Company,. and would
besides offer greater convenience.) There was certainly a great want
of station room at the City terminus, as it sometimes happened that
when a train was coming in and going down at the same time, the
platform, which was in the middle of the station, had as many as 700
people Ott it at one time.

Room D.
GLASGOW, nmersixEs, AND CAILLXSZE.
This Committee met to-day, at eleven o'clock—Earl St. Germans
in the chair. Ail the other Members of the Committee present.
The evidence on behalf of the Bill was resumed.
Mr. George Knight, manager of the goods traffic of the Glasgow,
Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway, examined—lie had been en-
gaged in that department for the last five years. He knew the
nature of the traffic between Ayrshire and England well. The
traffic of the Glasgow and Ayr Railway had increased three-fold the
last five years. The line was opened in 1840 In 1841 the receipts
of the line were 34,316/, while last year it was 104,535/. In 1841
the minerals carried along the line were 8,310 toes, yielding a
revenue of 585/. ; and in 1845 the tonnage was 180,430, yielding
12,7001. There was a considerable traffic between Ayrshire and
Campbeltown, in Argyleshire. It was proposed to place a steamer
between croon tied Canipbeltown, in which case a considerable por-
tion of the traffic of the latter town would go south by the railway.
Campbeltown had 26 distilleries, which consumed 11,000 tons of
grain, and produced 4,500 tons of whiskey. He calculated that there
would pass along the present line, to and from Campbeltown, 1,000
tons yearly of grain, whiskey, and cured fish, of which a large trade
was carried on at that place. A great deal of fish were also cured on
the coast of Ayrshire ; and he thought 800 or 1,000 tens of
these would pass along the line yearly. He was acquainted
with the Ararosean and Fleetwood traffic, and he had found
ccosiderable delay by this route, on account of the nature
of the harbours which presented difficulties front the deficient supply
of water. On this account the Ayrshire traffic had never been fairly
developed. lie had looked over the tables prepared by Mr. An Jer-
son, and with regard to the Ayrshire and English traffic he thought
it rather under than over-stated.
Cross-examined by Mr. Sergeant MURPHY—He had not made the
statement respecting Campbeltown in the House of Commons which
he had now given. The arrangement about placing the steamer On
the Troon station had been in,,de since then. It was very likely that
this arrangement was made since the rejection of the Caledenian
Extension. Ile believed that an arrangement was made for amal-
gamating the present line with the Ayrshire Company. The difficulty
of landing and loading goods at Fleetwood and Ar.:rossan he
believed arose from low water, occasioned by the ebb-
ing of the tide. He was not aware that a very
large traffic between Ireland and the south of England
was carried on by similar harbours. He did not know that the
steamers employed were not well adapted for the goods traffic. He
had heard of the amalgamation of the London and Birmingham
Grand Junction and the North Union Railways, hut he thought it
would be the interest of this united company to take the traffic by
Liverpool rather than by Fleetwood. At present the most of the whis-
key made at Catnpbeltown went to Glasgow, and alt the cured fish.
Ile thought, however, with this line, the fish both from Campbel-
town and Ayrshire would be sent direct. He believed that with all
kinds of fish, cured and fresh, the railway would be preferred to sail-
ing vessels.
Mr. William Anderson, accountant, of Glasgow, examined—De-
posed that he had prepared the traffic tables of the present line. Table
No. 1 was the passengers by the existing coach from Kilmarnock,
which he had taken from the way-bills. The sum agreed with Mr.
Burn's evidence. Table No. 2 was the Ayr and Dumfries coach,
the number of which was also obtained from the waybill. He had
not included the Dumfries passengers. Table 3 contained the pas'
sengers of the Edinburgh and Dumfries coaches. This he estimated
to go up the male line to the Crawick branch. Table 4 contained
the Dumfries and Carlisle coach passengers. Table 5 contained the
local passenger traffic, obtained by stationing men along the line for
a fortnight, in the months of September nod November last. He had
also, since the Bill passed the Commons, stationed men along the
line. This was in June last. As he understood the Caledonian had
stationed the men on the route, be stationed his men nearly in the
same places as the other Company. - :He found the result
to be more than he had realised pre, lonely. This
would arise from a great number of coach passengers
at this time than the previous period. The revenue of the tables he
had named in addition to table 7, was in the first period 41,0001. per
annum, and in June last 43,0001. Table 6 was the passsengers by
the Fleetwood steamers, excluding the Glasgow traffic. He had
added to the passenger traffic 150 per cent, for increase. He made
this addition on the data of the increase on the Ayrshire line.
'fable 7 was general merchandise by land, to which he had added
50 per cent. Table 8 was general merchandise by water. Table 9
was the cattle and horse estimate, founded on Messrs. Kennedy and
Brown's evidence. Table 10 was the mineral estimatejuunded on
evidence given before the Committee. He had calculated the traffic
through from Kilmarnock and Carlisle, and divided the receipt*
allowiwg one-third for working expenses, one-third for way lease
to the Caledonian and Ayrshire Companies, and one-third for profit
on the line. The summary of his table was for passengers 38,3131.:
general merchandise by land 10,0851.; general merchandise by water
12,500/. ; cart iage of drain tiles, 3,608/. ; cattle, &c. 17,7941.;
minerals, 10,6631. ; mails, small parcels, &c., 6,500/.
Cross-examined by Mr. COCKBURN—Last year his estimate of in-
crease was 100 per cent. He added nothing on goods last year, but
he had added 50 per cent. this year. Experience of the Ayrshire and
tile Edinburgh and Glasgow Companies had induced him to add the
50 per cent.- He had got returns from these compaalq
since last year, and these justified him in making the additional 5n
per cent. Ile believed that Mr Pare had this year, on the Shrews-
bury and Hereford line, estimated 200 per cent. increase. The fe;
crease, no doubt, noul d depend a good deal on population. He conkd
not give the population per square mile on the Nithsdale line. He was
not aware that the Ayrshire line had never yet reached the
estimate made on that line before the 11:11 was passed, though then
only 100 per cent, was added for increase. He would be surprised
were it so. (Mr. Cockburn here read an extract front the MinuteS
of Evidence in 1837, given by Mr. Pare, in which the full traffic.
with an addition of 100 per cent., was set down at 117,0001. Per
annum, being 13,0001. less than that given last year IS
Mr. Wright's evidence.) He had, in taking the . Ps!:
senger traffic, swept the road of all vehicles. The witnea•
was then examined in detail with the object of showing that he bad
over estimated the road-side traffic, and taken a wider range f
country titan he ought to have done.
The witness, in answer to a question from Mr. Sergeant MiTarill!,
here gave a list of the places at which he had stationed nit:
in June last, in order to check those stationed by the
Caledonian Company. He had taken all the cabin Pl.;
sengers by the steamers as to go by the line, and
had added 100 per cent. lie had not made any special reduction on
the 6,900 tests of goods esathitenital,tedvion totthigle.ousferaeoim:indinAoynpros;edls.htoatEfonwrgalascandftti,nri:S
~*.eettt of the goods supposed still to go by steamers, but his esti-
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The Committee met thisC4rornij Lord Lincoln
in the chair.
SOtTTIr-WESTEThN EXTENSION.
Mr. Stavin, traflic•inasier on the South• Western, was the first W
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ness called, and gave evidence to show the necessity of extendis
the line to London-bridge, in order to carry the increasing MOO'
the line to the City, and to intermediate places.
Mr. Gurney was about to call another witness when
The CHAIRMAN intimated that the Committee thought it WI
cessary to accumulate similar evidence to the above, as they
sidered that the advantages of the extension were self-evident.
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sides, it was reported in favour of by the Royal Commission,
decision was entitled to its consideration. Tee Committee were
of opinion that it would not do undue injury to the property of th'F-
who opposed or through whose property it would run.
Mr. GuaNsv said, after this intimation they would simply call tb
engineer and surveyor.

DERBY, IJTTOXETER, AND STA!'
FORD RAILWAY COMPANY.—(THIS DAY4d
A meeting of the shareholders of this company was he'
to-day at the George and Vulture Tavern, Lombard-street
for the purposes of determining the dissolution of the ear
pany, and in the case of the dissolution being agreed to,
whether such should be considered an act of bankruptcli
with the view of having the affairs of the company Woul3
up under the Joint Stock Companies Act. Mr. Nash, Chairman of the Company, was called to the
chair.
The Secretary having read the advertisement convening
the meeting,
The CHAIRMAN said that the time was arrived for the
shareholders to elect scrutineers to take the votes of the
shareholders.
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Win.
Mr.
Roworth, of Nottingham, Mr . R. Sheppard,
Mr. Philips were then elected.
The Secretary then read the Report of the Committee of
Management, which stated that after the resolution of t4a
meeting in last March to dissolve the company, owing to l
existence of the law relating to joint-stock companies, there
ha
being only 12,890 shares assentient, which nuinuot
was insufficient, they were unable to carry
that resolution of the shareholders. However, the deler
under which they laboured in common with a great nunluef
of other companies, had been remedied, and it was now
placed in their own hands, under the recent Joint Stock
i;
Company's Acts, 7 and 8 Viet., c. 111, to dissolve
Company. The Committee of Management • begge,:
to remind the shareholders that the undertaking r_
which they had been engaged had not been proceeded Wit,
owing solely to the errors in the surveys, for which W./
could not be accountable. They had, however, refused ref
discharge the demands of the engineers, and had got rid of
one exorbitant demand by the payment of 1251. The de;
legal tribunal,
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account, from 900
shares had been allotted to the public, to the Provisions,
Committee 3,450, and reserved for amalgamation and low
interests 1,600 ; 13,538 shares had been taken UP by
Copublic, 3,390 by the Provisional and Mause,',7,
mmittee, while there remained in hand 3,072. Froni_res
cash account it appeared that the deposit on the shares
amounted to 44,4361., and the interest allowed by banked
&c., to 7081. 17s. 7d., making a total of 45,1441. 17.,!.
eared
that
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It
while the expenses incurred left a balance of 38,710 i.
in the hands of the treasurer.
pains in going through these accounts, and their
been much longer than the committee desired. Ti,heir
The CLIAIRMAN said that the directors had taken some
ing
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time. The committee had thought it right to tell them
ever, would have the effect of preventing his occurp-
that
had got 7001. interest on their money, and he thought
3001. more would cover their expenses. He would now be very
happy to hear any gentleman who might desire to addsez'
the meeting.
Mr. COWEN wished to know why the 1,300 shares which,
had not been taken up had not been sold instead of beieb
retained in the hands of the Committee.
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It was stated in reply, that these shares had been kept for
by The
Secretary, who read the Act of Parliament under
they had been convened to show that the meeting could It
legally entertain the topics now brought before them.
The CHAIRMAN promised that on application to the cot of
mittee, permission would be given to inspect the books ;
the Company, with which Mr. Cowen expressed himself s's
railway.
After some further desultory conversation, it was resolvecl,
that the Company should be dissolved without bankrliPtclo
and the Chairman stated that the Committee would return
the shareholders 1/. 12s. 6d. per share, on Thursday nott:nd
The thanks of the meeting were then voted to itia
acknowledged by the Chairman, after which the Wee
separated.
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TO Mr. 31EREWETHER'S cross-examination, Mr. Tite stated that
this line had the greatest carrying trade for the steam-boats in
London, and that the line which had its terminus in a street belong-
ing to the company had access to Fenchurch-street, which is now
narrow, but which is about to he widened by the Corporation of
London. The Richmond Railway, which is to be opened next week,
is the only line Lady opened in the neighbourhood of London, so
that there was at present but little experience on that point. He is
architect for the Eastern Con titles and the South-Western Company,
and the valuations which he had made in the intended prolongation
f the South-Western line to Waterloo-bridge had all been confirmed
in the result. The prososed arrangement of the station would cost
about 45,0001. There was a regular arrangement with the Eastern
Counties, by which that company undertook to give the passengers
a choice of going either to Shoreditch or to Fenchurch-street, the
difference between the two places in distance from the Bank being
about a quarter of an hour's walk. It was not proposed to bring
goods beyond the original station at the Minories, but a great ad-
vantage would be obtained in bringing the farmer, the shopkaeepaenrci
and the squire Ito the centre of the markets for t
corn. The butcher would of course go byßtS.hkowre.duietchßattlo.
Smithfield. The original estimate for the
Property was
way was 410,0001, but the actual purchase theof
opfuttadkoiwnng,ata3s7t9h,eoyooh/.,:dtheyp Parliament,
had Instead
only
various expenses
bill had been 22,000/., and the
andintenwdhede,n theyfour lines of rails,
Counties Railway was about
taken two lines, and Bic actual cost was 20f0,0001.
43,0001.T1te soTlLceittsinees
to the communication with the Eastern
through open fields, and the latteoree
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to
show
precisely what por-
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warehouses the company proposed to
of the West India Dock
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ywlplich a plan was put in, frothroposed to take about one-
wtahkiec,hfoirt tatepecaorrerdecttlaiaptp
twelfth of an acre, and they gave as much, or rather more.) The
the warehouses taken I about'm
area of the sta several fixers
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BIRTHS.
On the 14th inst., Mrs. James Painter, of Berners-street'
of a son.
On the 11th inst., at Avening, the lady of Alexander
Rooke, Esq , of a daughter.
On the 16th inst., at Winterbourne Dauntsey, Wilts, the
wire of G. Burtt, Esq., of a son. of
On the 16th inst., at Colmere Rectory, Hants, the lady
the Rev. J. B. Bourne, of a daughter. Of
On the 17th inst., at St. John's-hill, Battersea, the laAdw
the Rev. J. 14. Soule, of a son.
On the 18th inst., at Clapham, Surrey, the wife of the Ll°.
T. Mac Gill, of a daughter.

MARIZIED. -r4 sq.,
On the 18th inst., at St. Pancras Church John Reid, Arest
R.N., assistant-surgeon, to Mary Ann Elizabeth, you"°'
daughter of the late Captain G. C. Stovin, R.N.

DIED.
At Cheriton, Rent, Mary, eldest daughter of the We Slr.
Macdonald, barrack-master. age,
On the 10th inst., Jane, wife ofJohn Sinclair, of Old 14°
Maresfield, Sussex.

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