The Sun.
London, England, 1846-07-28 00:00:00

RAILWAY.

On the bringing up of the report on :his Bill,
Mr. E. BULLER entered into a lengthened statement
of the position of the company, and pointed out to the
House that in the early stages of the Bill the promoters
were desirous of introducing a clause allowing them to
take high and extravagant fares, but the Committee to
whom the Bill was referred, and of which he was chair.
man, refused to sanction the clause, and an adjournment
took place to enable the parties to reconsider their
position. At the expiration, however, of the ad-
journment, the parties declined to make any altera-
tion in their rates and charges, and the Committee
thereupon determined to make a special report to the
House, recommending the House not to allow the Bill
to proceed further. He moved that the report be con-
sidered that day six months.
Mr. GREENE said that the Committee, having
passed the Bill, recommended that the Bill ought not to
be passed.,—(Hear, hear.) The Committee had no power
to alter the tolls, but the Committee, being aware
of their want of power, compel the company
to come before Parliament to sanction the tolls.
The preamble had been proved, and the standing orders
had been complied with, but of what purpose was that,
since the Committee did not wish to sanction that upon
which they were not called upon to determine. Now
he, therefore, rose to defend the decision of the Com-
mittee, but not the recommendation contained in the
report.
Mr. AGLIONBY said that the Hon. Member for
Lancaster (Mr. Greene) had stated very fairly that it
was extremely natural for him to support his consti-
tuents' views. The Hon. Member supported the views
of a canal in which his constituents were interested.
But whilst it was natural for the Hon. Member to sup-
port the views of his constituents, it was also natural to
the Members of that House to support the
views and interests of the public ; and he (Mr.
Aglionby) considered that they would be supporting the
interests of the public by agreeing to the motion of the
Hon. Member, the chairman of •th Committee to whom
this Bill was referred. That committee were unanimously
of opinion that the tolls proposed to be charged by this
railway company were far too high, and after having de-
sired the promoters to reconsider their Bill they still re-
fused, and as long as they had so conducted themselves
he thought that the House were perfectly justified in
saying to them, "If you refuse to reduce the tolls to a
moderate and reasonable rate, you must seek some other
remedy; you must withdraw your Bill."
Mr. B. ESTCOURT spoke, but, from the confusion
which prevailed in the House, his observations did not
each the gallery.
After a few words from Mr. E. BTJLLER,
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the adoption of the report 6
For the amendment 7l
Majority for the amendment --65
The report was consequently lost.
LONDON AND ScoaOUTH-WESTERN RAILWAY.
Tke zed a lal awed tiat, .1410 conmautte

on the London and South-Western Railway (London-
bridge Extension) Bill, have leave to report forthwith;
and that the standing orders, Nos. 119. 120, and 139 s
be suspended, and the said report be 7aken into consi-
&ration on Tua,lay, if the amended prints have been
deposited with the door-keepers at least the day previ-
ou.—Aweed t,,
NOTICES OF MOTION.
Mt. SIIARMAN CRAWFORD gave notice that en
the motion for going into Committee on the Rateable
Properties (Ireland) Bill being made, he should move
that it be an instruction to the Committee to 'Mace
provision that the county and poor-rate be levied upon
the same valuation instead of two separate, valuations,
provided by the present Bill ; also that landlords be
made chargeable to the county-rate in the same proper'
tion that they were liable to pay for the poor-rate.
Mr. HUME gave notice, that to-morrow week be
should move a resolution to the effect, that to preVnt
drunkenness and inttraperance amongst the working"
classes, it was the duty of the Legislature to open
the British Iluseum, the National Gallery, and similar
public places on Sundays, at such hours after morning
service that gin palaces and public-houses were allowed
to be open.—(Hear.)
THE STATE PAPERS.
Mr. E. DENISON wished to know whether the State'
Papers could be put in a more convenient form for es°
than they were at present. He found that the estimate-
for printing a volume (Class A), was 5741., thas
the expense of printing, 2,000 copies was over 4,000/.
Lord PALMERSTON said that the subject had (le:
copied his attention, • and that he did bora next Yea"
to be"able to have them put in a much smaller form.
COURT OF COMMON PLEAS. „
Mr. STUART WORTLEY desired to know her
Majesty's t;evernment intended to take any measuresfor opening the Court of Common Pl as.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL said that he could e 4
pl,abre himself to pass any measure this session, bat he
would do the utmost to pass such a measure Which
considered to be most useful and necessary.
• THE WELLINGTON STATUE. the
On the motion of Sir F. TRENCH. a copy cn
report fiorn the sub-Committee of the Wellington
the
tary Memorial, inclosed in the letter from his Grace
Duke of Rutland, K.G., to the Viscount Melboarl'
dated 14th of January, 1839, was ordered to be Pre'

seated to the House.
SUPPLY OF FOOD IN IRELAND.
In reply to Mr. O'CONNELL, tbsP
The CHANCELLOR ~f the EXCHEQUER said 0
the people in the distressed districts of Ireland haabeeime
relieved by means of employment given by the pr
and also by the people in their immediate neigh
hoods. Government had also furnished supplies of f 7..,
at a cheap rate in various parts of Ireland. Ile (rsi
curred in what the Hen. and Learned Gentleman b f
said about the beneficial effects of the relief e;
forded to Ireland, for, from all accounts Whim
he had had the opportunity of seeing since be
had the Fonour to hold the situation he then filled,gef
was impressed with the beneficial effect of that re....
in saving the people from the evil of famine and rio-e
serving the peace of the country. It must at the ss
be
time be observed, that much as the measure Wright of
beneficial in affording a temporary relief, it must eet
be imagined that it was to become a pertsnro
system, and thus induce the people to
sue
on the Government permanently for fond, for lO
a feeling would be a great evil to the eounteY-_,,,,e
some parts that feeling was already beginning t° Foy
up, and therefore the Government, thinking it neceSs'be
to mark that it was not its intention to continue the
system, had given instructions that the supply was t° it
rtopped as much as possible on the 15th of August' 00
was first the intention to stop the sup Ph. (lea
the Ist of August, hut that period was exletloo
to the 15th, in order that there might rte pot
pressure on the people. • The Commissary-Geltio
in Cork had written a letter to to
a part of which he would take the liberty of readineid
the House. It was dated the 12uh of July, and sts 00
that considerable consignments of Indian corn vvere_sese
their way from England to that country.. There
half a dozen vess -Is in the port, and if their carVoii
were left much longer on board, they would es!) r)
from the heat. He (the Chancellor of the Exeheqs,esi
felt that they must be unwilling to land their carg°he tee
they could not enter into competition wit dies,
• Government, but if the Government reduced its suPP_ out
it would give an opportunity for private enterprise to P
food into the country. ere°
Mr O'CONNELL thought they ought to be o.
the
as to withdrawing the relief from the Irish peePle'ssbei
present time. Before the middle of Septembe, the
might find that the measure was still as necessary foreso
preservation of the people from famine as it had sir
been.
f uld he
Mr. FIUME wished to know whether there
to ,W°e i'sb
rn
any objection on the part of. the Goveinment .. te-
a return of the amount which had been expended
din
lief of the Irish people—in money, in provisions,
ibis re•
work. It was desirable that they should have
ld
turn placed on the table, to know whether it riot'
be necessary still to gee on affording relief. oho.
Mr. P. SCROPE was desirous of asking the b`letber
tenor of the Exchequer a ouestion. It was the
it was his intention to afford any explanation
mode in which the people of Ireland had been reheGe.
They had been relieved partly by grant from thewhst
vheernwmaseatent,xainoduspatortklyn(b4pwraizvltezeAuiebutions. NewriestS
contributions were to those supplie3a,mbyclrhtSeddGP6:byvel;
ment, in order to know whether the relic...-
vete individuals was at all in proportion
these individuals or the property -dess these
sessed? • The public could not be satisfied ni
..,ste
details were supplied, in order to know whether be
contributions were at all equal to the distreeee
relieved. whuribethweeyaltphoos:
WI)
Mr. F. FRENCH said that 100,000/. had the
placed at the disposal of the treasurers °rood,
counties in Ireland, in order to be a PPrl
under the present Tenant and Grand
No part of that he found was in existence at theAedue
moment. The distress was still great, and hew for
know really whether all had been distributed? .
could scarcely credit that it had been so. did
/TO- fa
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQ‘'..-ber
with regard to the question of the Hon. NU", 0.0,"0
Montrose, he had no objection to make the r,ett",' OV's
quired, and he was also perfectly ready to
the table of the House an account of private woOt,
butions, but he was not prepared to say that )11' 0.
give the names of the contributors, specify r.
amount they had subscribed. Ho might remark, bs
ever, that the landed interest of Ireland genersqo
come forward and liberally assisted Government 00
lieving the distress of that country. With regat'l to
be.
.last question of the Hon. Member behind 1)1%011
begged to state that the whole of the 100,000/. f.ter die
fully distributed, as well as 30,000 L more unufe the
second Act passed this session. He could 05,411.
House that the attention of Government lift"es
closely directed to the state of the crop psl't
Ireland. They received reports from all eteens-
of Ireland day by day, and the attention of Golet
was constantly directed to the subject. fi ep°'"
however, that Government would never be calk of
to take measures to avert any coming evil, but n
theless they should be prepared to act with vigeor'a
r
Mr. HORSMAN wished to ask the Noble filsege
First Lord of the Treasury whether, in case the eieei
resolutions passed, they would take effect without 'SP'
, °
for the Bull to pass? sas
11
Lord JOHN. RUSSELL was understood to .
such
he intended to take the same course that was par
with respect to the corn-laws. gt
THE SUGAR DUTIES.
A number of petitions were presented for and tig'ybe
the proposed Government measure in regard t°
sugar duties. Amongst others
Mr. GIBSON presented a petition from the ,
rectors of the Commercial Association of Mancheste4g
favour of the proposed Government measure respecioi.
sugar; and praying-that the measure may pass' iktoeeoef
Mr. HOPE presented a e etition from Maneb ""
against the proposed Govi-rnment scheme respectings-
The petitioners prayed that no measure would °et,
the sanction of the Howie which would not allt„o0,1
time to procure additional labour for their plorl'-alTs
and which would not permit them to compete oo
terms with sugar admitted for the use of home
spirits. be in#
Mr. MACAULAY presented a petition from it 00
habitants of Edinburgh, in favour of the proposed
sure respecting sugar. race
Lord JOHN RUSSELL having moved the ° reit
the (lay for the House resolving itseif into a Coto
of Ways and Means on the Sugar Duties, oieg
Lord G. BENTINCK rose and said, that in 11;101
the resolution which was in the Speaker's ht:. ttr.o
an amendment to his leaving the chair, he reps
the motion had not fallen into abler ban of while
deeply
rcihreoat
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didet ss
tNiwc‘h)
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et:lsshpttlhaotdghderi:
this occasion
:biaven,itae,ladesit
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benhnate of the 11005 e,
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htinliooegAi
they
yheasf rieenhacataiv spen
culators
screvtiee :°Oll
before. He felt confident that his Noble
at the head of the Government would t e,
him credit for truth when he said teilog too
brought forward this motion with no hostileNfeesolllo.i
wards her M ijesty's Ministers.—(Hear, hear., „a
Occasion, question of the sugar duties ill'ocieOvi
of slavery had been mixed up with a vote of e°l3goethaee
in her Majesty's Ministers, but he could truly to
on this occasion, though he did not mean sin;
that he could place his confidence in her MajestY'eseestg;•
ters, it was not his intention to mix up with this
any considerations .of confidence in her Dirujesultiest'necl
nisters.—(Cheers.) Indeed, he felt that, on o„tist orb
of such great interests as those of' the fli eubiee
West India plantere, and above all on a questl.ess roe;
concerned the liberty and happiness of the Afrftion °'tll,9
it would not be proper to mix up with this clue'beedte,
party consideration. But while, on the on° Geve:
disclaimed introducing any motion hostile to thee, eible
ment, he must vindicate himself from the attaer, bey to
had been made upon him and his party.--(lleanseao.„oo
He could not deny, and he did net, slaves ';0;
deny, that the effect of the emancipation 01 t Odle d
very much to diminish the produce of the Wes a orios'
he could not deny that whilst, for some iefe,;es in 00
the six years previous to the emancipation of s 190,7t0
West Indies, the average produce was bet.wneenweeirtto
and 200,000 tons of sugar. That productiof lien cue es
emancipation of' slaves was completed, hs.dd t eteel
such an extent that at one period it _ notjn
170,000 tons, whilst it was admitted that the
the West Indies did not exceed 145.000 "
ris 'fittallairD3
manner it was the natural consequence Hear,
rice
off in sugar that the prices had risen.( of .p
He found, when he took the averaqe by
tl'o,
which had been furnished to bluiesioue t° the
Grocers' Company, that the -six years pearsr siacet‘oo
emancipation of slaves, and the twelve yse less-tit
181. per cwt. Moe lad tolsea toc°
average differenety of the prices had been