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London, England, 1848-05-23 00:00:00

The clause as amended was then agreed to.
On clause 64,
Lord LINCOLN suggested that there ought to be a
power of appeal azainst the provisions of this clau;e.
Viscount MORPETH thought legislation on that
point had better be postponed until hereafter.
Clause agreed to.
Clause 65 was agreed to.
On clause 66 some conversation arose, in the course of
which
Sir J. GRAHAM expressed his opinion that the
measure had been greatly improved in its progress
through Committee, by lituitine the powers of the
central board.—(Hear. hear.) He thought it mi4ht be
now further improved by limiting the power of the local
boards, and especially udder clause 67. That irlause
gave power to the local boards to oblige each occupier
to have a certain quantity of water in
the house, and
then it gave power to tax him for the supply of it. He
felt assured that such a power as that would never be
assented to by the public, and unless very good reason
Yeas given for it, he should, when they came to it, be
prepared to move that the clause be struck out.
Mr. SLANEY admitted the importance of giving no
more than the necessary power to the local boards, but
Irte 67th clause was necessary in order to give the au-
thorities the means of securing a sufficient supply of
water for the poor. At this moment there were thou-
sands of courts in our towns, in which not one tingle
house had any supply of the first necessary of life.
Clause 66 was then put and agreed to.
On the 67th,
Viscount MORPETH admitted that the provisions
under those clauses were rather of a stringent and
mole nt character; but great evils required violent reme-
dies; and the evidence with regard to the supply of
Water to the poor was so conclusive, that there co uld be
a
!o doubt of the necessity of ample powers being given
,0 the local boards. At the same time, he knew the
ltnpossibility of insisting on water being supplied to
"every house throughout the country, and he should be
atenteci to strike out the compulsory parts of thi! 67th
,c_laise, leaving it only at the discretion of a local, board
to insist on such supply if it were necessary.
7ir j. GI; ARAM
-'l-IAU said his objection to the clau:t e was
i._ at°. This clause gave the most arbitrary powers. It
cooed a tax upon the poor occupier for the defitult of
an °.svner, and it left the local board to impose ow him
./..rount of taxation they might think proper.
hone ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought the ;objec-
t ,„"a ?f. the! Right Hon. Baronet might be got rid of by
prrnrfication of the words, and without destroying the
Sir, of the clause.
Would `I4AHAM said no modification of phras9eology
political move his objection. Surely it was vey bad
shape, tze"noroy to impose a tax of this sort an any
cern, e objected to such interference with th,e con-
ofthe humbler classes.
Clouse "• CLAY admitted that the powers given ;by the
meted were enormous, but the evil sought to 1?e co
required a remedy of the most stringe.ut cha-
racter.
Me sz
by th.....itulLES rather thought that the Bill advocated.
the if .":13/1. Baronet did not apply to the district which
led 4". Baronet represented.—(A laugh.) He :admit-
it that
theory the clause was an excellent oitie, but
wileihrt.at the same time impracticable from the extent to
~T. it would inevitably raise rent.
e_ viscount MORPETH would postpone the Further.
wraideeetion
of the clause, with a view to ase:ertain
whether water could be supplied at a cheaper rate:.
The clause was then postponed.
ptile2ulauses 68 to 71 were agreed to without observation.
auses 72 to 78, both inclusive, relating to the com-
oat cry
purchase of existing water-works, were struck

de ause f
ad Cl\
w_ 79 (as to premises for the reception of the
01, as agreed to.
Poser e 40 (as to the burial of the dead) beihg pro-
-1,0r4r. HENLEY wanted to know where the Noble
*era; meant that the dead should go, since he said they
1,4,te net to be buried in the church-yards?—(A :laugh.)
Whichbe Noble Lord, at all events, provide some place in
It, dead were to be deposited.
-sIACKINNON supported the clause, the only
gh:" of Which was, that it did not go far enough in the
-epression of the intramural interment nuisancv.
far Irtsceuut MORPETH said that if the clause 'went as
linue the Hon. Member desired, it might endanger the
e;*`• The clause was effectual in preventing any nui-
'nee Which a surrounding neighbourhood might con-
sider to be such.
n Mr. HENLEY said that unless the Noble Lord would
-oeee L
nt to modify the clause so as to enable people to
"aye other places of interment in lieu of thole taken
tlvaY by the Bill, he should divide the Committee, against
he
~_amendment proposed by him.
Alr. HUDSON thought that powers ought to I'e given
"he local boards of health to provide burial places
Where needed.
Colonel THOMPSON said that he had a clause ready
i° provide for the exigency pointed out by the last two
speakers, which he would propose, if in order.
Mr. BERNAL said that the Hon. Member could not
40 so now.
M. NEWDEGATE said that the poor ought to be
I.lld regard to in respect to burial places, for if tit ey were
the
of their present places of interment by Ile Bill,
Government was bound to find others for tin! m.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the question
/1,..,44 surrounded by difficulties, and it would be impossible
riprovide by the Bill for fresh places of intermeint. The
ne
nt of the Bill was to stop interments in towns where
hey endangered public health. But the
,queistion of
;-"idieg cemeteries out of the limits of the tonms was
e° which involved the rights of the clergy, and could
u e.„t be dealt with in a summary manner.
WYLD was of opinion that the subject tpf inter-
to to towns was of too great importance to, be dealt
h
inter-
Wit by the present Bill. A distinct measure ",.;)ught to
the brought in. If the clause as it stood was agreed to,
greatest inconvenience might result.
Ur MACKINNON said that if the clause was not
Perseverede in the consequence would be to perpetuate__e
tbor Present
.system of interments in towns.
seu refer
pressed the Noble Lord not to yield to the
enaticma of the Hon. Members for Oxfordshire and
ellderland
rotlllellloll,PETH admitted that great difficulties sur-
sary ,ed the question, but still he thought it was nec
to lea 'or the Government to do as much as was .possible-
dir Ben the evils complained of. He was willing to mo-
tioLthe clause so as to avoid in some measure the objet-
ofAf, the Hon. Member for Oxfordshire.
to WitTh r some further conversation the clause was agreed
amendments.
iStuales to 104 inclusive were agreed to.
litrelpse 105 being put by the CHAIRMAN.
MOM ENLEY put it to the Noble Lord opposite
the boo 4&erpeth) whether he did not think, looking at
the,. Committee had gone far enough to-night,
.Progre;re,ore that the chairman ought now to report
thyou , especially as it would be impossible to get
ogi he remaining clauses at this sitting.
. tsstio,3 41'.°HPETH said he could not object to the sug-
. he tiot:the Hon. Member.
Progre,'"uu-ae then resumed, the Chairman reported
aext. 8, and obtained leave to sit again on Thursday

Ildr. Ivr " PENSIONS. _
the foil-lACGREGOR, pursuant to his notice, moved for
(6 41wieg returns, viz.:-
- return of tbe'services of the following persons,
m
*lto receive
the I,e_ ve the sums charged against their names. rde.
clueteenY Post-office revenue, such amounts being
tßat. therefrorn in its progress to the Exchequer, and
ie. ,I,
euh, 0
nabbieureg names of the heirs of his Grace the Duke of
4,0001.; the
:--the Duke of Marlborough,
her4e°f Grft0n,3,407/. 10:.; h( irs tteDuke of &horn-
' g the amount of
theg grove fetal, 10,307(. 10s., tioste°BB Postages on 2,473,800 letters, and of net
tiro Os deducting the expense of 7,321,400 letters; a
per(er return of the services and duties of the following
out nn' Who receive annually the undermentioned sums
,telei the revenue of the Excise,
progress
e of annual
pe4sequer:the Duke of Grafton (exclut
12a.;
in its to the
Earl
,pl°ll of 4000/. from Post-office).
tug Jet',
,59,54 165.; assignees of the7falt9elaharles Burn,
?,9,ll°Bo.ietyof Earl of Bath's
. pension,
.1,20a—total,
ch the follow-
(ritt ~:,..-• Return of the services for w
Nen.'" are Paid out of the revenue of hlireland, viz.:—
Viscount
buti-e °f Mecklenburg Strelitz, 1,778- 49' . o' of pension
of 2nn, tiow Earl of Camperdown (exeluelv 9971. 9s.
"--tel-„°1°1. from revenue of United Kingdom), 4,-,,, !,7751. 13s. 4d.
the ri,„°' RUSSELL said he could hardl thinkoothoaldt
reski,(teurY, or any other public department,services of
Qui ,!nYthing like an accurate return of the
there
Man, (",,eat Duke of Marlborough, but he
, believed
of Marl-
noro,'lt only a book entitled .. Coxe a Life
reign of
Stiee-ngut but also several histories
with -I.'"'llue, which would furnish theofl
Marlborough,
tot.
v.,t11,!e services rendered by the Duke of
upon
Itoine.Member
the 4°ll the pension alluded to had been charged
As to Innes of the Crown.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.)
they were
Itell,k`" service& of the Duke of Schomberg.
Peric,d4°*n to anybody who had read the history of the
the Rol! who
he lived Hear, hear.) however,
14 Sehz,4l3.ember wished to know to whom olrithe Duke
such k -.4uergs heirs these moneys were paid, no doubt
it be- return could be procured. But of what use would
g1it,,,,,, Originally these sums had been paid out of h
ha,, taken of the Crown; but since the Legislature
ha_
kltiecie,en those revenues to the public account, and d
thst tirl'uose burdens to the civil list, he did not see, after
e°4l(l 4„rengement, how those burdens so undertaken
°eon thyw be avoided, or that the obligation consequent
eoldi k_' Crown's surrender of its hereditary revenues
Would he got rid of. Ile, therefore,
odd
not consent to grant the motion —(Hear, hear.)
.
hoped the House
11014 • 111-I_4OOREGOR could not but regret that the
(11,ith a o"'"rd should, in the manner he had, have trifled
wh, aoh'u,eetion affecting the taxation of the country.—
Zi°lie -.)
Ile (Ur. Macgregor)ng had brought forward
tbncil'rati"
ni., as having a direct bearing upon the profuse
he
Attlutl:"11 Of money from the public revenues of the
Sapsett b and he referred not to the first, but to the. pre-
li ,„4" °f Marlborough • and he contended that if the
,oterlc,"„et,by which the original pension had been
it was had been so corrupt as to vote it in perpetuity,
tneltd tt, re that a reformed Parliament should putcpahn
- '4•ll°t -a?i(111i1Y. The first Duke of Marlbor?u
lied ln Le lac ion was granted, died without issue,
hle
ground/Ir. Macgregor) submitted there were no pu)rei.
411 t buk°ll which it ought to be continued to the I
Atts4ori e; In the stuns Way he of f the
pre-
Noble r "I°Yed by the ) t Dukcinci(gfhGtrasroank.
di da"rd refused ht esea
„i ,n_at i, , t ese returns, the country would
t,„le tho u °sods an inquiry. He should certainly
4.. he - ouse.
kotiorillry was cleared but no division took place, the
r. meAing (as we understood) withdrawn.
n‘ree,
un'keGltXt3olZ then moved for a return
.of the
evrvieett ° number or persons, statinr, their duties and
1c%511 !tirn• aorri23B74,epra,lapp intments, whoil receive the an-
klieat , 3nual stipends
eb euoni, snits '•• l'• to. of the revenue of the United
ftrged as way t t the Exchequer, the same being
441 e Wends and Forests.
J. It and perpetual pensions of her
ti` Ott USSELL believed that the Committee now
til4
liabiet Qf tilVaroods and Forests ' depart-
;

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