The Sun.
London, England, 1833-07-16 00:00:00

Mr. O'CONNELL said he must press for a division.

Lord J. RUSSELL would not vote for the motion,
because it could not be considered otherwise than as a
menace to the other House of Parliament. But at the
same time he protested against the rejection of the Bill,
or against its most valuable parts being abstracted from it
by the other House. It had been reduced in the House of
Commons to the utmost limits of moderation consistent
with any Bill of Reform. All had been done that could
be done ; and in voting against his Hon. Friend's motion,
therefore, he was not influenced by the slightest wish for
conciliation or compromi-e, but solely by a desire not to do
anything that might appear to throw out a menace against
the other House.

Mr. HUME urged the Hon. Member for Staffordshire
not to press his motion. If he did, however, he (Mr.
Hume) must vote for it.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE (as we understood) supported
the motion ; and Mr. E. STANLEY opposed it.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
Against the call of the House l6O
In its favour 125
Majority
The House then went into a Committee on the India
Bill, Mr. BERNAL i❑ the chair.

Clause 40 was agreed to, after a few words from Mr.
Char:es Boller, Mr. Wynn, and Mr. C. Grant, respecting
an amendment, which it was agreed to discuss in another
clause.

The Committee then proceeded to the consideration of
the 42d clause.

Mr. C. GRANT explained the object of it very brief,,
regarding as it did the proceedings of the Supreme Council.
Mr. HUME suggested that it would have an important
moral effect if a native of rank and talents were allowed
to be a Member of the Giuncil.

Mr. C. GRANT did not think that at present such a
change could he expediently made.
After a long desultory discussion on the 42d clause,

Mr. CUTLAR FERGUSSON moved an amendment,
to the effect that the powers given by the clause to the
Governor in Council to vary the existing laws, should be
confined to the limits beyond the settlements of Fort Wit.
ham, Bombay, and Madras. He wished to preserve in
those Presidencies, which were entirely British possessions,
the blessings of British law.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the Amendment 33
Against it
Majority .. St

The clause was then agreed to.
Chuses 43 to 51 were then agreed to inclusively, with
a few verbal atnendmen a.

On clause 52, which proposes the appointment of a
Commissio❑ to inquire into the various laws .of India,
with a view to their consolidation into a code,

Sir R. INGLIS thought th it the House was not in
possession of sufficient information to enable them to
legia:►'e on the subject.
Mr. C. GRANT made some observations in reply,
which were quite inaudible. The clause was then agreed to.
Clauses 53 and 64, were then agreed to.
The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and obtained
leave to sit again to-morrow.
Mr. S. MACKENZIE brought up a Bill to regulate
the trade to India and China, which was read a first time,
and ordered to be printed.
LUNATIC COMMISSIONS BILL.

On the report of the Lunatic Commissions Bill being
read,
Mr. POTTER said he wished to call the attention
of the House to some of the provisions of the Bill ; it ap-
peared from a return presented to the House "of the
number of lunatics confined under the authority of the
Crown," that there n ere 399 of those unfortunate persons
confined, he believed, in different parts of the kingdom.
Dr. Macmichael and Dr. Southey were appointed medical
visiters; now these two gentlemen were in extensive prac-
tice, and he could not conceive it possible they could in-
spect the lunatics in the way which was absolutely neces•
sary. The visiters were required to visit the patients at
least once a year, and oftener if directed by the Lord
Chancellor. This, in his mind, was not the kind of in-
spection which should be used,—the visiters ought to
v-sit much oftener than once a year, and not at fixed pe-
riods, and 399 lunatics dispersed over the kingdom, and
at considerable distances from each other, would be ample
employment fir two visiters. He felt great sympathy for
those unhappy persons, and was most anxious that every
ap
nr edc au t. 1,
tgi Una rds haoguald i
against the kpeons possibility ial ifftoyr ofd themab abuse.
The The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, this Bill had
every
comfort,
received considerable discussion. He was quite sure the
Noble Lord who had the charge of the lunatics, would
take care that they were properly treated.
Mr. TOOKE said, he had waited several evenings
intending to take part in the discussion of the Bill when
in Committee, but it was brought forward when he hap-
pened to be absent. He could not help thinking too
many places were created by the Bill, he thought the
subject required more consideration than had been bestowed
upon it. He moved that " this Bill be re-committed to
a Select Committee."

Mr. HUME said, by the report the annual incomes of
the luna•ics amounted to 269,158/. ls. 91. ; by the Bill
one and a half per cent., might be levied on the amount of
the income., which wood be upwards of 94,000/. This
he thought too nr.uch, and was at a loss to know why a
barrister should be one of the visiters.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL replied at some length•
Mr. TOOKE withdrew his amendment, and the report
with amendments was agreed to.

The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at half-past one o'clock.

Mr. J. L. GOLDSMID entertained a select
party at dinner on Sunday last, at his house on Champion
Hill. Among the distinguished guests on this occasion
were his Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Lord
ALTHORP, the LORD CHANCELLOR, Lord AUCKLAND,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the Duke of SOMERSET, Lord
ERRINGTON, the SOLICITOR-GENERAL, &c. &c.

Rev. Dr. CHALMERS preached on Sunday at
the Scotch church, London-wall. The church was allied
by tickets nearly an hour before the service commenc,l—
as at Regent-square, the individuals who were disap-
poin•ed ir, obt,ining admission far out-numbered those
who were fortunate enough to get within the doors. In
one respect there was a falling off. The caliages were
by no means so nutnerous as at the " National" church;
and it was quite evident that even Dr. CHALMERS'S
celebrity was insufficient to tempt the patricians of the
West-end to pass the boundary of Temple-bar. The
Marquis of LANSDOWNE, however, was bold enough to
.4 cross the line;" and there was a very considerable
muster of the civic nubility and gentry—among the
former of whom were Sir JOHN Key, and several mem-
bers of the alder manic body. Dr. CHALMERS will leave
town, on his return to Scotland, in the course of the
week.