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PETITIONS,

Lord CA.]St PBELL presented a petition from Glasgow
in favour of the Scottish Entail Bill.
The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented up-
wards of 200 petitions from various Free Church con:
gregations in Scotland and Ireland, complaining of the
refusal of Free Church sites in Scotland, and prayiag
for the passing of such a measure as should afford them
adequate relief. There were certain individual members
of their Lordships' House who had refused those sites;
but he hoped that, on consideration, they would think
ink
better of the subject, and no longer interpose between
their fellow-men and their Maker.
Lord REDESDALE presented sixteen petitions from
'various Waterworks Companies, against the Health of
Towns Bill.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY asked if at the
present moment her Majesty's Government had any
means of knowing what was going on in Spain. It had
been stated that a very distinguished Carlist General
had been taken and shot, notwithstanding the proclama-
tion of General Cabrera that he should show mercy to
his prisoner. He wished to know if the Government
had received any information that the Carlist General
Altana, had been shot by the Queen's troops.
Earl GREY said that it was exceedingly inconvenient
to have those questions put without notice.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY gave notice of
the question for Thursday.
CRUELTY TO ANIMALS BILL.

On the motion of the Duke of BEAUFORT the
Cruelty' to Animals Bill passed through Conamittee.
The other measures on the table were forwarded a
stage, and their Lordships adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
LANCASHIRE AND YORKSHIRE RAILWAY..
Mr. BROTHERTON moved—" That it be an in.
struction to the Committee of Selection to appoint the
Committee on the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway
(Amendment of Acts and Regulation of Capital) Bill, to
*a forthwith, if they shall think "—Agreed to.
LORDS' AMENDMENTS.
The Lords' amendments to the Great Western Rail-
way (Extension of the Berks. and Hann
ranchs Railw
to ay from
Hungerfurd to Westbury, with a B Devizes)
Bill were considered and agreed to.
THIRD READINGS.
'The following Bills were read a third time and passed:
Birkenhead Dock Commissioners (Transfer of Powers to
New Commissioners, effecting Arrangements with the
Crown, and Amendment of Aats—No 2).
Bulree and Eccles Road.
.Thilanthropic Society Charity Estate.
'owlins' (or Bishops Hull Curile)o Estate'

Worcester Turnpike Trust.
CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS.
The following reports were considered and agreed to,
and the Bills ordered to be engrossed :
Crossford Bridge and Manchester Road.
New Grand Canal Company (Ireland—No. 2).
Thorne Moor Drainage and Improvement.
Sir R. H. INGLIS presented a petition against the
Diplomatic Relations with Rome Bill.
Mr. GREENE presented a petition from Lancaster,
praying for Parliamentary reform.
An Hole. MEMBER presented a petition from the
bakers of Dundee, praying the House to pass a Bill to
restrict the hours of labour in their trade.
Viscount GALWAY presented a petition praying the
House to restrain the sale ;of intoxicating liquors on
Sundays.
Mr. FREWEN presented a petition from the Anti-
Malt Tax Association praying for the repeal of the malt
tax. The Hon. Member gave notice that to-morrow
he should move that it be printed with the votes.
Mr. THORNELY trusted the Hon. Member would
leave the consideration of the petition to the Committee
on petitions. Every petition of importance was inva-
riably ordered to be printed, and already 1,200 petitions
had been printed this session.
AGRICULTURAL TENANT-RIGHT BILL.
Mr. PUSEY said perhaps it would be for the conve-
nience of the House if he stated that he was afraid he
should not be able to proceed with the Agricultural
Tenant Right Bill this session. He therefore begged to
move that the order for the second reading be discharged.
The motion was agreed to.
Sir DAVID DUNDAS presented a petition from the
magistrates of Dingwall, praying for the establishment
of a college at Inverness, the capital of the north of
Scotland.
Mr. HUME presented a petition from the bakers of
St. Marylebone against the Bill introduced by Lord
Ashley for regulating their trade.
Sir B. HALL presented a petition in favour of
Parliamentary reform.
BATTERSEA PARK.
Sir ROBERT INGLIS, pursuant to notice, wished to
ask the First Commissioner of Woods and Forests in what
state were the arrangements for the formation of:a park
at Battersea, and the erection of a bridge therefrom over
the Thames; and, further, to ask for the returns of pro-
gress made under the Westminster Improvement Act of
10 and 11 Vie. c. 131.
Lord MORPETH said, in answer to the Honourable
Baronet, he had to state with regret that the arrange-
ments for the formation of Battersea Park,
were necessarily suspended in consequence of there
being no available funds for that purpose in the hands
of the Exchequer. With respect to the progress of the
Westminster improvements, he had to state that the
department to which he belonged had received some
returns upon that subject, which it was, pro-
posed to lay upon the table of the House.
He had also the satisfaction of stating that ho
had been informed by one of the Commissioners,
that notwithstanding the unparalleled pressure of the
times, there had been expended up to December, 1847,
60,0001, and there was still every prospect of the West-
minster improvements being proceeded with without
the least delay.
Mr. FOSTER hoped that the bridge at Battersea had
not been altogether abandoned.
Lord MORPETH said the word he used was sus-
pended not abandoned. The Government had no inten-
tion to abandon so important a work, and the Com-
missioners of Woods and Forests would proceed with it
as soon as sufficient funds were placed at their disposal.
ROYAL PALACES.
In answer to a question from Mr. HUME,
Lord MORPETH stated that the return for which the
Hon. Member had moved with respect to the cost of re•
pairing the royal palaces in this country, would be laid
on the table as soon as possible.
ARMY AND NAVY.
Mr. HUME said he should move to-morrow that the
return for which he had moved on the 31st ult. with re-
spect to the army and navy, should be laid on the table
of the House forthwith.
NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT.
Mr. E WART wished to know if any authority on the
part of the House had been appointed to see that such
arrangements were made in the interior of the new House
as would be conducive to the comfort and convenience of
the Members.
Mr. GREENE said at present the attention of the Com-
missioners was directed chiefly to that part of the building
required for the offices of the different departments. As to
the internal arrangements of the House, nothing more had
been done than fixing the frames upon which the seats
were to rest, and in progressing with the ornamental
parts of the House for which contracts had been taken.
A Committee was sitting at present for the purpose of
seeing that the necessary arrangements for the con-
venience of Members was carried out ; but how far
their duties extended, or what course they had taken, he
was unable to say.
Mr. EWART inquired if the Hon. Gentleman the
Member for Northamptonshire, who was a member of a
Committee in relation to the new Houses, would have
any objection to include in its labours the arrangements
with respect to the fittings, no such instructions having
yet been given to it.
Mr. STAFFORD replied that there would be no ob-
jeection on the part of the Committee, provided the
House should think proper so to instruct them.
Mr. OSBORNE inquired of the Hoe. Gentleman
(Mr. Greene) it the Committee of which he was a
member had altered the plan of Mr. Barry with respect
to the rooms below the library; and if so, whethrr the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had been communicated
with with respect to the expense.
Mr. GREENE said some alteration bad been made,
andi that the Commissioners had communicated the
nature of them to the Treasury, not having the power
of making any alteration without their consent.
Mr. OSBORNE inquired if the communication was
official, as the Chancellor of the Exchequer had stated
last Friday night that he had only received a private
communication on the matter.
Mr. GREENE replied that on last Thursday fort-
night the Treasury was communicated with.
Dr. BOWRING inquired when the House would
be fit for the reception of Members?
Mr. GREENE could not give a definitive reply, but
he hoped the House would be ready by the session of
1850.—(Cries of " Oh, oh.")
BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS BILL.
Sir J. PAKINGTON withdrew this Bill, and said he
should bring it forward next session, unless the Govern-
ment proceeded with the Bill of which notice had been
given by the Noble Lord at the head of the Govern-
ment.
BRAYHEAD, WATERFORD, WEXFORD, AND
WICKLOW RAILWAY.
In reply to Mr. S. HERBERT,
Mr. WARD intimated that the Admiralty had no
power of interfering with the approaches from the river
to the fishing town in question (the fishermen having
complained that the bridge to be erected for this railway
would materially interfere with that access); but Mr.
Brunel, the engineer, had expressed a wish to serve the
interest of the fishermen as much as possible.
THE MERCHANT SEAMEN'S FUND BILL—
THE LIGHT DUES BILL.
In reply to Mr. CARDWELL as to when he would
proceed with these Bills,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL intimated that he did not
intend to proceed with them to-night, but that in a day
or two he would state to the House the course he
should pursue with respect to them.
ENCUMBERED:ESTATES' (IRISH FRANCHISE,
AND LANDLORD AND TENANT BILLS).
In reply to Sir JOHN HAMMER,
Lord J. RUSSELL stated that as soon as the Sugar
Duties Bill had passed through Committee, he should
state to the House the course he intended to pursue
with respect to the above. named and other Bills.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said it would beta great con-
venience to the House if the Noble Lord at the head
of the Government would state what measures he_in:
tended to persevere in this session.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he would state on
Monday next the course Government intended to pur-
sue with reference
SIERRA to the business before the House.
Mr. CHISHOLM ANSTEY, pursuant to notice,
wished to task the Under-Secretary for the; Colonies
the reasons of the recent removal of Thomas O'Brien,
Esq., from the office of Colonial Secretary for Sierra
Leone, and for information as to the charges brought by
that gentleman against the present Governor of the same
colony.
Mr. HAWES replied, that a dispute arose between
the Governor and Mr. O'Brien which led to inquiry,
and after the inquiry. had taken place Mr. O'Brien
stated that it was quite impossible for him to serve
under the Governor. Upon this intimation the
Colonial Department determined to withdraw Mr.
O'Brien. With regard to the papers, they contained
much private and personal matter, and unless compelled
to do so, he must decline to produce them.
Mr. C. ANSTEY gave notice that on an early day he
should move for their production.
COLONIZATION.
In reply to a question from Lord LINCOLN,
Mr. HAWES stated that a Committee of the House
of Lorde was now sitting upon the subject of coloniza-
tion, but whether their inquiry would result in
any plan for mitigating the evils of Ireland by an
improved system of colonisation, of course he
could not say. Since, however, the Noble Lord had
brought the matter under the consideration of the House
last year, the Colonial Department had devoted a good
deal of attention to the subject, and the Noble Lord at
the head of that department had sanctioned a loan of
100,000/. for the purpose of promoting emigration, besides
aiding the relations of emigrants in British North
America in procuring passages across to their friends.
Lord LINCOLN said his question was a very simple
one, but had not been answered by the Hon. Member.
In consequence of an address to the Crown which bad
been agreed to by the House, her Majesty directed that
a special inquiry should be instituted into the condition
of our colonies by the Colonial-office, and he wished to
known whether any such inquiry had taken place?
Mr. HAWES said no inquiry had taken place except
that before the Lords' Committee.
Lord LINCOLN said the Committee concluded its
sittings on the 4th of June, and the reply of her Majesty
to the Address was given on the 14th of the same
month.—(Hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said there had been great sickness
and mortality among the emigrants from this country to
the Canadian colonies last year, and in consequence of
that great complaints had been made against a further
influx of emigrants.
NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT.
Mr. HUME asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
whether any new estimate had been furnished for
making the alterations from the original plan of the
House of Commons for additional offices; and, if so, to
what amount ; and whether the alterations had been
sanctioned by the
Commissioners superintending the
building.

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The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
there had been an alteration in the estimate to the ex-
tent of 5,0001., which would be r«piired for addition a
offices that were considered essentially necessary. This
additional expenditure had been sanctioned by the Trea-
sury, but would not be laid out during the present year.
Mr. OSBORNE inquired whether the attention of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer bad been drawn to note in
one of the Parliamentary papers on this subject, pre-
sented this morning, stating that the additional remune-
ration of the architect for the alterations was to be made
• subject of consideration ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said his
attention had been called to all those cases of public
buildings in which additional expense had been incurred.
In the case of the New Houses of Parliament, he believed
the additional expense could not have been foreseen; but
he thought no additional expense should have been in-
curred without the previous consent of the Treasury. He
bad directed the additional remuneration to be paid in
this case ; but not in any other case, of a similar
nature, unless the alterations had been agreed to by the
proper department.—(Hear, bear.)
MR. O'NEAL'S CASE.
In replying to the O'CONNOR DON,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
intimated that he had written to Ireland,
and in reply had received a letter from a
Mr. Griffin, stating that during the last five
weeks seventy-five men had been employed on the
estate of Mr. O'Neal, in Galway, and that that gentle-
man was quite ignorant at the time that he had laid
himself open to complaint.
NEW PLACES.

Lord LINCOLN inquired whether the return he had
moved for with respect to new places created since 19th
of March, 1845, down to which period a return had been

furnished, would be laid on the table.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
three•fourths of the return had come in; the return of
some of the legal departments had not yet come in, but
he should immediately take steps to have the return
completed at the earliest possible moment.
AUGMENTATION OF THE POLICE.

Sir DE LACY EVANS inquired if it would be open
to him, on the motion for going into supply on Friday,
to draw the attention of the House to the proposed in-
crease of the police, and the consequent cost?
Sir GEORGE GREY apprehended that it would not
be open to the Honourable Baronet to do so ; but it, in
accordance with the rules of the House for him to do so
of course he had not the least objection.
NEW WRITS.

Lord J. RUSSELL moved " That no new writs
shall be issued for the boroughs of Derby and Leicester
before Tuesday the 15th day of August next."
In reply to Mr. STAFFORD,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL intimated that he did not

intend to proceed with the Horsham Bill in tha
meantime, neither did he intend to take up the Bill of
the Hon. Baronet for the Flint boroughs. On Thursday
he should bring in a Bill on this subject. On the 15th
of August it would be open for the House to adopt any
course it might think It.
Colonel SIBTIIORP asked the Noble Lord if he
meant to abandon these two Bills or not, and whether,
if he intended to bring in a new Bill upon this subject it
would be brought in this session. The fact was he had
no confidence in the statements of the Noble Lord, and
he wanted to tie him down to a pledge.—(Laughter.)
The motion was then put and agreed to.
Colonel SIBTHORP said, notwithstanding the motion
had been put and carried, he should be glad to have an
answer from the Noble Lord.

Lord J. RUSSELL said he hoped on Thursday to be
able to move for leave to bring in a new Bill.
SUGAR DUTIES.

The House then went into Committee on the sugar
. _
duties. _ _ .

Mr. HUME repeated that it was the duty of the
House not to make any alteration in the existing sugar
duties, unless the House were satisfied that the change
would improve the colonies. The West Indies
had never had an opportunity of tasting the
experiment of using free labour, and he must,
therefore, protest against this being a question
of free trade. This was a question of justice
to the colonies, and if they hoped ever to see the colo-
nies prospering again, they must allow the colonies to
legislate for themselves, and not leave them under the
management of the Colonial-office. The colonies were
placed in their present deplorable condition through the
misconduct of the Colonial-office, and the misconduct of

the House, and the only reparation they could make was
to place the colonies under ouch a free and fair system
as would enable free labour to compete with slave labour.
All he asked, therefore, of the House was to put the
colonies in a condition to compete with slave labour.
He was convinced that the Act of 1846, as proposed
to be continued by the Noble Lurd would not have that
effect. He thought it would be better to leave the Act
as it was, or give to those interested in the colonies sw-
ficient time to regain confidence. He was of opinion
that if free labour was properly dealt with it would be able
to compete with slave-labour in any part of the world.
The colonies, he considered, had been grievously used.
He read a memorial of the Assembly of Jamaica, agreed
to the 7th of June, complaining of the mismanagement
of the Colonial-office, to show that this was so. The
colonies would never prosper until they left them to con-
duct their own affairs, and to employ free instead of
slave labour.

Lord G. BENTINCK then rose. Ile said, as the
Chairman of the Committee up stairs, he wished, at this
early hour of the evening, to address the Committee.
(marT SPEAKING.)

TATTERSALL'S—THIS EVENING
Six o'cLocii.

LIVERPOOL CUP.
5 to 2 agst Cawroush
5 to 1 agst Executor
7 to 1 agst Prince Charlie
10 to 1 agst Ulys.ses
14 to 1 agst Jovial
15 to 1 agst Grimston

GOODWOOD STAYER.
6 to 1 agst Chanticleer
9 to 1 agst Crozier
12 to 1 agst Diplomatist
GOODWOOD CUP.
2 to 1 agst The Hero
4 to 1 agst Van Tromp
ST. LEGER.
6 to 1 agst Justice to Ireland—taken

DERRY.
10 to 1 agst Flying Dutchman
16 to 1 agst Honeycomb
20 to 1 agst Garrick
25 to 1 agst Uriel
25 to 1 agst Elthiron
30 to 1 agst Borneo—taken

THE CHARTIST TRIALS.

CRIMINAL COURT.-(THIS DAY./

OLD COURT.
Mr. Sergeant WILKINS (in continuation of our After-
noon Edition), having adverted to the opening
speech of Sharpe at the meeting at Bonner's Fields,
which he contended was not seditious, the Learned
Sergeant then proceeded to address himself to the speech
which Jones was indicted with uttering. He recom-
mended the people to organize and form wardmotes and
class leaders, as the best means of accomplishing the
object they had in view, but there was nothing whatever
of a seditious nature in that recommendation. What
systems of organization were more perfect than that es-
tablished by John Wesley, for the regulation of the Wes-
leyan Methodists, and that by which the Anti Corn-law
League were enrolled to obtain their end? The Learned
Sergeant having referred to that part of the speech in
which Jones congratulated the people upon the proba-
bility of a revolution in Ireland, proceeded to uphold the
doctrine that when men were convinced that a revolution
was necessary to the well-being of the community, it
was their duty to advocate and forward it, quoting in
support of his opinion, Milton, Locke, Bolingbroke, Paley,
Hume, and Russell's " History of Modern Europe."
Jones' speech concluded by a foolish observation, that if
the people organized they would soon see the green flag
floating over Downing-street and St. Stephen's, and
would be able to bring back Frost and Williams to this
country, and send Lord John Russell and' Earl Grey
to occupy their places. The jury should, however,
look upon that as a mere effervescent piece of oratory,
and recollect at the same time the saying of an eminent
man, that liberty of speech was the safety-valve of our
constitution. The case was not so much a question
between Ernest Jones and the Crown as one involving
the rights, privileges, and happiness of a people—in-
volving the right of public speaking, of giving
expression to our feelings, and of criticising
the acts of the Government—a right which
was the salvation of our country, had made it what it
was, and which they would preserve entire, and let no
human being infringe it, having reference to their chil-
dren's children, the security of the Throne, and every-
thing which they held sacred and dear. If, after the
address of the Attorney-General and the summing up
of the Learned Judge, any juryman remained uncon-
vinced, it was his sacred duty to hold out until his
tongue failed him rather than return a verdict of guilty
against the prisoner.
The Learned ATTORNEY-GINERAL concluded a most
admirable and able reply at ten minutes past four
o'clock.
Lord Chief Justice WILDE summed up with great
particularity, occupying no less than an hour and a half.
Tho jury, after a short consultation, then wished to
retire, and at a quarter to six o'clock they left the box
to consider their verdict, and returned at six o'clock,
when, having answered to their names,

The Clerk of the Arraigns said—Gentlemen, are you
all agreed ?
Foreman—We are.
The Clerk of the Arraigns—Do you find the defendant
Ernest Charles Jones guilty or not guilty ?
Foreman—Guilty of all the counts except the last,
that of riot.
Mr. Jones was then taken into custody of the governor
of Newgate, and the Court adjourned for half au hour.
No sentences were passed up to the time of our going
t 0 press.

His Excellency the Marquis of Lisboa, the Brazi-
lian Minister, left town this afternoon for Brighton.
FitAirrur. MUTILATION.—On Monday last, Samuel
Herrod, a small farmer, living at flucknall-under-
Iluthwaite, deliberately cut off his left hand, in a fit of
insanity, with a hatchet. The poor fellow had suffered
from mental aberration for a short time previous, but
bad appeared so far recovered as to be allowed to go
about the premises without any attendant. Messrs.
Cooper and Godfrey, surgeons, who were fetched from
Mansfield to attend him, found it necessary to perform a
second amputation higher up, and the patient is at pre-
sent doing well—Nottingham Journal.