The Sun.
London, England, 1846-04-27 00:00:00

RAILWAY COMMITTEES.

(THIS_DAY.)

GROUP VI.
This Committee met to-day at twelve o'clock, Sir J. C. Hobhouse,
chairman.

DUNDEE AND PERTH.

Mr. ANDREWS appeared for the promoters of the Bill, and after
addressing the Committee.
councilMr Al
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the lice,
inasmuch magistrates
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intended by the promoters to have a general termini fir all the rail-
ways running into •the town, at a plaee called the " Inch." Ills
clients objected to this ground being interfered with (amore palmy),
as it had been the property of the public for the last three hundred
years. It was a place which the inhabitants held in high veneration.
It was the ground on which " Henry of the Wind" performed
such wonders before one of the Kings of Scotland, and of which Sir
Walter Scott gives so glowing a description. The Learned Counsel
went into the merits of the case at great length, and after some cross
firing between the Learned Gentlemen engaged on both sides,
The Committee ordered the room to be cleared.
Upon readmission, the CHAIRMAN said that the Committee had
agreed to hear the opponents by counsel and evidence.
The proceedings were then adjourned to twelve o'clock to-morrow,
when the case will be gone into detail.

GROUP XIV.
SOUTH-EASTERN AND BRANCHES.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)

Mr. ALEXANDER said that be intended to call a military officer of
eminence to show that the South-Eastern scheme with feference 40
the Dockyard was not only feasible 1.1-4 advisat}le, hut he could of
say that this gentle Man Was authorised or commissioned by the Go-
YOrnment to express any opinion on their part.
Witness (in continuation)—Mr. Yignole,s plan for entering the
dock-yard was more expensive ttwtn trip sputh-gagern plan. Had
caused ditierept ti? ke 111a,le en the proposed route of the
North lient Bailway in the tunnela through Boughton-hill. The
Tile turnings-Opt skewed c:ay to the depths of 26, 7, 13, and 7 feet
respectively. At the eastern end of the tunnel there is a cutting of
1402 yards in length. The borings show that the elm, qqppiog of
the other strata varies in depth from 28 to 0 feet. These borings
were all made within a distance pf 350 yards. There is on the
Wi3Stril Side of the tunnel a cutting 1400 yards in length, and the
borings nitide there gaVe 28, 6, 12, 'B, and 9 ft.: 4, Is of opinion
that the Boughton-hill bnoulg v@For lvtVe been
made. The pi,,al tdrlticti alp the Vnion,street branch on the
10411141 U, arp perfect.y useless. In the event of t: .e forma-
tion of 'the North Kent line, an amalgamation with the South-
Eastern Company would be the result, or else a ruinous competition
must be carried on.
By the Cq.4.R.N4zi—php[ild have preferred poptinning the Green-
lyich line thrOnFli Preen,yich Bark. Had 'formed plans for sucll
line, but it wits Opposed by the Admiralty,
The Criarpterl said that hg 84001 likc sea the correspondence
en thac tux wit.
4.11.:'5#4-lilisox said that the line enforced by the Admiralty was
a far inferior one as to expense and accommodation. It wood In-
crease the expense 10 ~000/. The railway would not interfere with
the instruments at the Royal Ob.zeryt4q7 in tqe 1.411 i, by any vi-
be:glop. 'lie arirc iorigg 4'oyat Cud that the experiments already
made Were not sinficiently conclusive, and he proposed instituting
scans experiments himself.
Mr. John Clutton, examined 'ay Mr. 31erreweather—Is a surveyor,
ant had valved the laud required for the South Eastern linq. vac
cost of the main line, in land would be 304,2651., and that el tho loup
162,2351. From Canterbury to pow be f41,36uz., and from
Meidatenc io TtocßesiteY §I;6SV.
''slf`: I,talke'r'iy4s the'next wlincss examined, after which,
The Committee adjourned until to morrow at twelve o'clock.

SUNDAY TRADING.
Lord CAMPBELL presented several petitions from diff:rent
parts of Wales, praying their Lordships to adopt some mea-
sure for the prevention of the sale of spirituous liquors on
Sundays.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented a petition from Halifax
against the sale of spirituous liquors on the Sabbath.
The Bishop of St. DAVID presented a similar petition
from Sauroost.

THE IRISH GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY.
The Alarquis of CLANRICARDE moved a third reading
of this Bill.

The Duke of RICHMOND thought the Bill ought to be
postponed, as a petilion had been presented from shareholders
representing 800,C00/. of the capital, praying that the mil viiay
be withdrawn.

The Marquis of CLANRWARDE said there could be no
ohjection to postponing the Hill. lie had moved the third
reading, because he beliroed that those Bills 1N hich had arrived
at a third reading Ilould not come under the regulation re.
specting Railway Bills which had lately been established by the
House.

The Bill was then postponed to Friday ":cxt.
(LEFT ,gr."--

lout3,E OF COMMONS.
The &TA:O:4 took the chair at four o'clock.
BRIDPORT ELECTION.
Mr. C. WOOD reported to the House that the Committee
appointed to inquire into the merits of the Bridport eleetion
had decided that Mr. Baillie Cochrane had not been duly
elected to represent the borough of Bridport, and that I►lr.
Romilly had been duly elected to serve in Parliament for that
borough, and ought to have been returned. The Clerk of the
Crown was ordered to attend to-morrow to amend the report.
GENERAL TERMINUS AND GLASGOW HAR-
BOUR RAILWAY BILL.
On the further consideration of the report on this Bill, Mr.
HUME was about to make a motion, for the purpose of having
the further evidence laid on the table, when the Hon. Member
was interrupted by
The SPEAKER, who said that it would not be in oiler to
make such a motion until the second reading of the Bill. The
report was then agreed to.
Mr. ESCOTT moved that Mr. Smith O'Brien be ordered
to attend on the Committee, of which he was appointed a
member.
Mr. SMITH O'BEIEN observed that he was there to re-
present his Irish constituents, and not to serve on the Com-
mittees of English railways. He should, therefore, refuse to
attend.
The result of the motion was that Mr. Smith O'Brien was
ordered to attend.

SECOND READINGS.
The following Bills were read a second time, and ordered to
be committed, viz.
Holrne Reservoirs.
Cambridge Improvement.
Forth and Clyde Junction Railway.
Scottish Central and Caledonian Junction Railway.
Glasgow Municipal, Police and Statute Labour.
Oldham, Mni:letter, Liverpool, and Birkenhead Junction
Rs,ilWay,
Alliance Gas Company.
Portbury Pier and Railway.
Sheffield, Ashton-under-Lyne, and Manehester ( Whaley-
bridge and Hayfield Branches).
Ipswich and Bury St. Edmund's Railway (Extension to Ely,
with a Braoh therefrom).
London and Birmingham Railway (Weedon and Northamp-
ton).
West Cornwall Railway.
Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton Railway.
Wilts, Somerset, and Weymouth Railway.
South Devon Railway (No. 2—Amendment and Branches).
Midland Railway (Clay Cross to Newark).
' REPORTS.
The following reports were brought up, the amendments
and alterations agreed to, and the Bids ordered to be engrossed,
viz. :--
Electric Telegrah Company (further proceeding on considers-
tien of report).
Perth and Crieff Direct Railway.
East Lothian Central and Tyne Valley Railway.
Helensburgh Extension and Police.
Helensburgh Hurbour.
Glasgow Union Arcade.
Glasgow Harbour Mineral Railway.
Colchester Navigation Improvement.
Leicester Improvement.
Great Western and Wycombe Railway.
Great Western and Uxbridge Railway.
Saint Austell Small Debts.
Burnley Improvement and Waterworks.
West of Scotland Junction Railway.
Stafford New Gas.
Eastern Union and Harwieh Railway and Pier.
Ashburton, Newton, and South t 'evon Railway.
London and Brighton Railway (Wandsworth Branch).
Rugby and Stamford Railway.
THIRD READINGS.
The following Bills were read a third time and passed, viz.:—
Scottish Midland Junction Railway Branches.
Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ardrossnn Railway.
Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway Amendment and Branches.
Clyde Dock and Harbour.
South Eastern Railway ( No. 11) (Rye to Rye Harbour).
South Eastern Railway (No. 7) (Extension of Stations at
Ashford).
Exeter and Exmouth Railway.
Midland Railway (Syton to Peterborough Deviation and
Branches.
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway.—No. 1.
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Rallway.--No. 2.
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway.—No. 3.
Werton Super Mare Pier.
Brighton and Chichester Railway, (Bognor and Littlehampton
Branch.)
London and Brighton Railway (East Midland Branch.)
REFUSAL TO SERVE ON COMMITTEES.
Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN__Sir, I understood you to put
a question from the Chair, to the effect that
I should be ordered to attend a Committee of
this House to-morrow. I stated at the time that it was my
intention to attend this House as the representative of my con-
stituents. I deny the authority of the House to compel me to
attend the Committees; and I beg leave respectfully to state
that it is my intention not to attend the Committee to-
morrow.
Mr. HUME presented a petition against the proposed
malgamation of the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway with
ahe Forth and Clyde Canal Navigation Company.
t Mr. GRAINGER presented a petition from Durham in
favour of the Roman Catholic Relief Bill.
Sir HOWARD DOUGLAS presented a petition from Essex
against the union of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor.
Mr. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from Norwich
against the Irish Coertion Bill.
Mr. ESTCOURT brought up the report of the Standing
Orders' Committee.
Lord G. BEN TINCK presented a petition in favour of the
Erewash Valley Railway.
IRISH EISHERI ES.
Colonel CONNOLLY gave notiee that he would on to-
morrow present'a petition against the Salmon Fisheries (Ire-
land) Bill, and praying for a repeal of the same.
Mr. POWER. moved that leave of absence be given to Col.
Westenra..—Agreed to.
CRIME IN IRELAND.
Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL moved that the returns with
regard to crime in Ireland, presented a few days ago, be
presented.—Ordered.
THE MARQUIS OF WATERFORD'S PROPERTY—
EVICTION OF TENANTS.
On the order of the day for the adjourned debate being read,
Major BERESFORD rose and said, that having been
temporarily absent from the House, he took the present oppor-
tunity of referring to a transaction that happened the other
night, when allusion was made to the Marquis of Waterford's
property. Before, however, entering into that matter, he
must protest against the doctrine, (though no landlord had
more honestly discharged the duty than the Noble Marquis)
that every individual should be made subject to Parliamentary
inquiry and comment on mere prima facia evidence based
on newspaper reports.—( Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")
In such cases as these it was necessary that the personal
friends and relations of the parties accused should come for-
ward in order to protect them against these accusations.
Having presumed so much he wished to state that lie had no
complaint to make against the Hon Member for Kilkenny
for bringing this case forward. The lion. Member had
found a statement furnished wi. h the most circumstantial rela-
tions, and considering that the report was correct, had made
use of it in the course of argument. The only remark he had
to make was that he was a little astonished that the Hon-
ourable Member should be so ready to give credence to
a report furnished from that source front which (if his memory
served him rightly), not a long time since some reports had
issued with regard to his Learned and Hon. father. The
Hon. Member for Kilkenny was the individual, who in a
public address, declared the statement to be false,
and who published a letter declaring that the
( source from which the information was obtained was an
incorrect one. Under these cirumstances, he wished that the
Hon. Gentleman would have had some degree of caution in
making his statements affecting the property of other people.
With the permission of the House, he eould read the state-
ment. The Hon. Member here read from a newspaper an
article, stating that a village en the estate of Lord Water-
ford, containing 150 families, or 277 persons, had
been rased to the ground, and the families turned out destitute.
Now he would state the exact truth of the case. It seemed
that about thirty er forty years ago there were a number of
small tenements let to a number of persons; these occupying
tenants permitted a great number of cabins to be built upon
the property ; a great number of these persons came from a
distance of Cork, and were not reared upon the property as
it was stated. When the lease expired, the agent went
to Kilmaetomas, and offered to each of them n sum of money
for pulling down their own wretched hnuses ; the offer was
' thankfully accepted, and with their own hands pulled down
the cabins; the agent then went away, andas
after
same
the expiration of some time when he returned,
actu-
ally besieged by the yeomanry tenants
down
give
cabins alb°. He
themhew the
amount of money that they might pullh..dcd back to the original
the
complied and the tenements were
being
turned out. The
tenants, not one single one of them
agent's own statement of he matter was, that on afterwards
visiting the place the feeling there was quite otherwise
men draining, and three
than hostile. He had about ninety
hundred men in Tullarnore employed at the same work.
He thought, therefore, that the Noble Lord should have some
protection from those anonymous assailers who were ignorant
of his character.
Lord IN3ESTRE rosy to corroborate what fell from the
Ho. Member who had just sat down, and he could do so with
the more accurael , as he had himself resided near the Noble
Lord's property in question, and had been an eye-witness of the
circumstances referred to. The Noble Lord then read a letter
from the agent of the Noble Lord (the Marquis of Water..
ford), in which facts .similar to those read by Major
Beiesford were detailed, as also that every exertion was made
to give employment by enclosing slobs, &c. In addition to
this, it stated that several applications had been received
from cottiers, where houses were still remaining, that
they would gladly pull them down on the sa
terms as the others whose houses were pulled down. A similar
statement to that now made was made some time ago b the Honourable Baronet the Member for Waterford
which he ( Lord Ingestre) contradicted at that
time. He could give the statement now made a
similar contradiction. Lord Waterford was employing 300
men on the river Suir, and had as many employed at Dungar-
van, and wherever he had property the same desire prevailed to
afford employment to the working people. He was glad of the
opportunity which this circumstance afforded, to bear his testi-
mony to the conduct of the Noble Lord in giving employment.
Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL said he thanked the Gallant
Officer for the manner in which he dealt with this subject in
reference to himself, and the manner in which he had brought
forward this charge. But with regard to the charge itself,
the Gallant officer expressed his surprise at his (Mr. J. O'Con-
nell's) having adopted it, as be had done, without inquiry. The
Gallant Officer had, however, done him (Mr. J. O'Connell)
the justice to say that the charge had been before the
public for two or three days, and had not been contradicted.
With regard to other similar charges they had met with prompt
contradictions, but the one now in question had not. lie
was glad, however, that the Gallant Officer had taken
up the matter in this way, and had afforded the explanation
the House had just heard in reference to the conduct of the
Marquis of Waterford. He was glad also to hear such testi-
mony borne to the Noble Alarquis 49 a nekton landlord, and he