The Sun.
London, England, 1846-03-18 00:00:00

eetrP° THE TARIFF.
-Ln.° the order of the day that the House should go into
ittee on the Tariff Customs Bill being read,
heir. s ,
%es, ' teN said he wished to say a few words to the
1104 °Pon the question. It was in the recollection of the
the
het, that on the 27th January the Right Hon. Baronet at
thet ad of her Majesty's Government informed the House
those chain changes were about to take place, and that
of 'anees were to be accompanied by other measures
thereat advantage to the country. lie did not take
Hies 9'l4tion as one of free trade or of protection.
be ett°,itob longer did he mean to keep them in suspense before
were. e before the house those measures which he had stated
tote riot
t° know, but to accompany these great commerced
te gees--and how long he had learnt to attech
seeiont'le_ meaning of the word accompany
~fine
keel shone certain measures passing their second reading,
Other Principle of which being thereby affirmed, ',fere
the Teasures in connexion with them, were even laid upon
8114? of the House? With reference to the Drainage
measure' Right Honourable Baronet stated that his
tie of three years was connected with the de•
keLlf those measures; whether or no the three year,
!pee& are reference to that measure—whether or no the suns:
J'greel might have reference to that measure—he (Mr. S.
Intern) could not pronounce, and he complained that he was
lltel Y unable to pronounce upon it, —( Hear, hear.)
the ,telle Right Honourable Gentleman any notion
tept +1:n11 11211e*, or unwillingness of the agriculturists to ac-
t LI .•
ttril measure?t Had he any notion of the number of
trsseit"et were drainable? Had he any notion of the
1:'"ot e;e e lP”se of draining those acres—( Hear, hear)
" did he mean, as he (Mr. O'Brien) suspected,
opt, that it should be all hap-hazard together. They knew
Bkrpß about it. With reference to Ireland the Right Hon.
f.treeeeet etated, that it was his intention to take the police
e the ntirely out of the hands of the magistrates, and place it
"at d hattth of the executive. This was because ',eland
ter ,IVY "IVY affected by the Right Hon. Baronet's mea-
tgist„. ot the Right Hon. Baronet had neve! given the
titt n''''es of Ireland an opportunity of considering whether
Iteie'e-Pc3al would be acceptable or not to them. The great
rite tit °f the centralization of the police force was connected
Nee centralization of schoolmasters and the auditors of
eltest -ithteee°ants, It was not his (Mr. O'Brien's) fault that those
were brought forward as isolated measures. The
;It of`'• Gentleman had presented- them all to the house.
ller:tilt one great scheme, and he (Mr. O'Brien) insisted
"4tlse ttcit es a question of party, or of politics,lbuht as a
'tele tof straight-forward business, that they shou d eve a
till se° consider them altogether. He was sorry not to see
leiteelgilt Hon. Gentleman in his place, and he should have
thenseed remarks in consequence, but that he believed
more legitimate time for them was on the order. of
els• ',le But whether the Right Hon. Gentleman was in his
Netei',tot, he thought Hon. Gentlemen, boih on the. other
terese.`" House, and on the Ministerial side, had a right to
St' -I° of the course the Right Hon. Gentleman had adopted
ISNabile they were charged with dela) ing the progress o
414tasures they had a perfect right to complain that the
po thettun• Baronet had committed a double error in reference
%tete ,eonduct of these measures. He (the Right Hon.
Sakes") had attempted to expedite the progress of these
emit, ‘trs throu h the House by joining them with the cry ot
4 p •
net n Ireland.— Protectionist cheers.) He made them
elite, reference to temporary pressure. And he had also corn
thettetathe other error in practically dissevering them from
Tide easttres which, by his own confession, would have
see iL°O to alleviate and diminish the difficulties to which hi,
4(011 eXpo e the a ricultural interest.—( Hear, hear.
ee'r• O'Brien) did not put the quesi ion on the ground o'
rtY, his connexion, nor political friendships—which
eeeti:rtere now
no more—but he would persist in putting the
41,stee,,
thee Chancellor of the Exchequer, or some other
41ees'i. of Government then present would no doubt be
tttee ",,tswer it. He would ask in what manner the Govern-
,Nteer°Posed to conduct the public business during the
ari "lion ? He wished to know whether they intended
keatrlK forward their new measures relating to the improve-
ef the land before Easter, so that the agriculturists
•P'°4 te-e" all opportunity of expressing their final opinions
tralsp Measures which would expose them to the threatened
fist its He might repeat that he was sorry to see that.
keit St 1414 Hon. Baronetg at the head of her Majesty's Govern-
rise:er not in his place—( Hear, hear)—but of course any
'hetet,' of the Government would be able to answer the
tatse.„4ti , Which he had put, and if they did not choose to
Kt, him the injury would not fall upon the shoulders of the
aiketeoreit party but upon themselves in the opinion of every
belid intelligent men.—( Hear, hear.)
thits CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that in
tee,eat Place he must beg to apologise to the House for the ale-
ke eo'fi his Right Hon. Friend the First Lord of the Treasury.
assur H e, hel
believed, from the constancy of
Sfrir'e‘teeillelincee t(Leouransd repeated chearing)—and his Hoe.
LIS att, e believed, would be inclined to give him credit
• -etidenee, nothing but public duty could prevent hive fe n.
)14 in his place —(Hear, hear.) He (the Chancel!,
;,"riee;leelleouer) certainly wished that his Hon. Friend hart,
Nee" interval of seven weeks, which he stated ha.-".
e'esere. the progress of this measure, availed himself of the
Npe-ti°ns which he had just made, when his Hon. Friene
tla he tte'ent, and when he could have gone into detail as to
HO°tbste4de which the public business was brought forward.
ge'rtg forward the measures which were now before the
11,7'els Hight Hon. Friend had entered into considerable
}Via orle rtspect to measures ; and if he (the Chan •
diic-ettte Exchequer) remembered right, in the course of
useik'ke .71""na which bad taken place, great anxiety had been
on the part of Hon Member to have a knowledge of
44484" °I. thewhich.h d b ens proposed for the settle-
the °I the •
h eequestion. The object of the by
Le belie .e,reMbers bad been fully laid before the House ; and
▪ ef coy of it was in the hands of every Mem-
liouse.p With respect to the drainage of land
crest lie, IroProvement of highways, very great pro-
e_lien tic, been made in the drafts of those Bills.
esat e„ seeternment would be in a better position, by the
es
Odittee of Supply, to state what sum of money would
teiht ef ed for the maintenance of prisoners, and for the pay-
etrie w officers connected with the poor-law, because some
tabj ettoiumlate.eforrequired t bt in the necessary information.
0 0 a
miscellaneous services would be laid on the
tettletatif the House with as little delay as possible, but any gen-
tklest„acquainted with the subject could make an accurate
'ere",
ittewettetrilt°tri,wofoutlhde.hstlartne wbeheicnhhwapopuyld, be required. The Go-
had public business per-
4she I, nave laid all these Bills simultaneously on the table
t° led "0". He bad sufficient experience of public business
tieoettZ:hat this was quite impracticable. He might have
Cris withteraensawrceir
to
ohe
highways and
respectingriihgee,prtreed
mea-
stisettl'in had given notice of his intention to put it. At all
tad e.e could assure him and the House that the Government
desire to witheld any information which might be re-
°tot "'lt'd which they were in a position to give. regretted,
te ;er, that the questions had been addressed to him, because
the al Sues not connected with some of those departments to which
ions had reference.—( Hear.)
e 4, GILHERT UNIONS.— FARNHAM UNION.
PECHELL wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet, the
tee,'"e`e,r3l of State for the Home Department, whether he was
!N. t,nat a petition had been presented from the authorities
n); Farnham Union, which was a single palish under the
(455,111 Ant, complaining that the Poor-law Commissioners bad
with notices that it was their intention to annex that parish
Rel others under the Poor-law Act. He stated that this order
I%te4e,°. doubt founded on the report of Assistant-Poor-law
'tie Jimioner Pigott with respect to this parish, which was
sittee-e, the table of the House a few days ago, and which they
reeeerePated to show was erroneous. IHe therefore wished to
hire nether the Right Hon. Baronet would institute an in-
kalif :ate the matter, and would stay any further proceedings
it.len investigation was made.
jtdG A HAM said he had reason to know such an order
55(.1 4 issued by the Poor-law Commissioners, and he be-
gs ijheir decision was sustained by the facts of the case.
lbq rt° Power to sus Commis th order, hut he would call the
t,jlZl°f the Boor-lawPoners to it, when the subject
paPPed.
ts4lr, ''HAW
TO LIFE (IRELAND) BILL. d
eie-I.IAW wished to know when Government propose
e." first reading of this Bill? They evinced great
f,°,t remove protection on native industry, but they did
'keerear at all eady in their desire to afford protection to
oPerty in Ireland.
tetti' j‘n"lES GRAHAM said he intended to fix the first
tektielle °I the Bill fel- the first order day after the second
I of the Corn Bill.
The ey TEIE TARIFF.
Oa tegotise then proceeded with the tariff.
'4e: question of silk-gut being proposed,
arttel''AYLEY objected to the duty being reduced on
.that
ells said it was erroneous to suppose that the working
LPliesilire7c in favour of the Government measure, for recce.-
Feds'r,"K Weaver' had been held in Middleton, Nienchester.
\1414i5'44111/cirk, and other places, at which resolutions were
iLliteetl,oPposition to the Government. measure. The (se.
'oee • 'night do what they liked with the farmer eted t ht.
eotoprietor, but he trusted tHheeayr
( ,would not sacrifice the
ar.
I:I,gOWRIN
sGhewd
iwsheeadvetro.—add a few words
to what had
I,f"'aa the Hon. Member who had just sat down. 'i he
t°ea.4nrers of Lyons had addressed a very remarkable docu-
Nttt the y
of Commerce, in which they stated
Ilhithteltl Were poorpa and were considered to be ignorant, hut
.rste their poverty nor their ignorance had prevented then.
tee stetaining that restrictions on commerce were injuriew
e7riteel9tteests of the people, and that they were deeply in-
ee less: ties, extension of markets for their industry. The
.7,4l)l,''ttrers la France represented the same opinions as the
'slate:4'll,4 of the cotton districts in Englandthey con-
keel, that so far from protection being a blessing, it was a
Nlke industry. lie (Dr. Bewring) knew not why the silk
Net
ianturers should be werse treated than persons engaged in
fle 'tenches of manufacture.—( Hear, hear.) The subject
'tee eedebate was silk, and now the matters under considera-
'N,:ere fishing implements; but he found that Hon. Gen-
'oe stll Were in the habit of making speeces in the course of
e'elei,°,eassion which had reference to mathters which were al-
of, and he thought that such a waste of time
AO4,
well be saved to the House.
lqsati eel's HORTHWICK thought that the speech of the
slis Cr for Yorkshire had been mainly valuable from
eleetieustration it had derived from the speech of the lion.
t74it,;tt: for Bolton (Dr. Bowring), a speech which he Aid not
be er to say was alike creditable to himself, the country, and
,mistt2A4se.—(Cbeers.) But in that speech it was openly
illy the weavers of Lyons and the people of
France gene-
le it sere eteirel in favour of free trade, a mistake of which
to disabuse the House. The Hon. Member for
• said do not on that side of the House say anything
teili,,e'ittla Passed,
question at all. The question of the silk trade, he
and it was not ethe proper
reset trade rade on the question of theirPPr course to discuss
silk gut. The Hon.
4'114, bad said that the silk trade was /post important to
imp
"*"a
;t but was not the trade of the colonies of England ot
es • tr • ? But et this state
ts• ee, t ortance tis coun
‘uMe eit'l°t? of everythito thing and a settlementl not
of melting, be
eXosl'tern of.—( Hear, hear.) The effect of this change
se,liese stn any good in preeortion to the evil that would
e sty He had to apologise for having se long trespassed on
et,
wlr, mijniset the
House.
Opid
vt.t
tZ said he wouldl avioltdeuftoierst;his measure because
usseti or ebe rep
eta but he would just
th:_bileeeea,rreut einc,ashi hoed been alluded to by his Hon.
tist:ttiort et.'-olniltiiet,a and he
footing. He
e would allow him to put that
He (Mr. Muntz) had often
ith here to learnPrworart he ought to have known before. And
hrki re"ircl to th Inc trade, he certainly thought he knew a
tet'ee eek about •e At one time that trade was confined. to
11'4 worked it merely for the purpose of crinsumine
41,, tried teeiehe never made afnytprofit by it. Another person
it, and the result was that he
e;:efeetur`end
itlanulffaettutore
the Ga, zetta—(Laughter.) There
el°santt'er:l). one period when sine was at a high price in this
°land: ttnd. thatP was when the sins mines in Silesia, in
Auld ne had suspended working ; but if the Hun. Member
:1,4
t.trittW give him (Mr. Muntz) zinc at that price he would
ish h him for 1,000 tons. There was one other point
Jaes ha wished wished to mention. The whole trade carried on in
felt; see. been entirely destroyed by the bringing? of foreign
stares will
from its cheapness, suspended the original menu-
ftbe °f. brass. He was as anxious as any man for the repeal
....il'lthse-orit-blevs, as well as the repeal of all other laws.—( Lend
h He meant to say the. repeal of all other duties,
taff wonld
'red to
.wish them to be fairly adjusted while they were
stint; he exlst.—Agreed to.
tll4:tlr.eeTaii,i fr,pr4potshe:ledhuatier•,of 15s. on spirits and strong waters
toe ee‘"MP6ON objected, and said that by reducing the
see re --efewitc brandy to los , which was nearly one-third,
re
t' of the customs would suffer a deficiency of 400,0001
Y 1
lit did got knew on what groan& it was proposed

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