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London, England, 1846-02-06 00:00:00

COMMONS' SUMMARY.

The Housse:met at Four o'clock. This was the last day
for receiving petitions on private Bills, and in conse-
gmlnce, a vast number of petitions were presented for and
aga;nst railway Bills.

Sir JOHN YARDE BULLER brought up the report of
the Belfast and. County Down :Railway and Newry and
Warrenpoint Railway:,Bills, reporting that the standing
orders had been complied with, and leave was given to
bring in both the Bills.

A new writ for the eastern division of the county of
Suffolk was ordered, in the room of LORD HENNIkER,
who had accepted the Chiltern Hundreds,
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET then proceeded to call
the attention of the House to the first Report of the
Select Committee on Railway Bills. The Noble Lord
believed that by originating Irish Bills in the House of
Lords the best results would be effected.

t Mr. F. FRENCH did rot believe there would be any
advantsp to Irish Bills by having them originated in
the Lords, on the contrary, he thought it would con-
duce to the passing of Irish measures to originate the
English ones in the other House.

Mr. BEaNAL believed that the proposition of originat-
ing some Railway Bills in the House of Lords was good,
but he thought in preferring Irish and Scotch Bills great
injustice might be done to the English measures. He
did not think that any party would consider the report
of the Committee a great boon. It was a fallacy to
suppose that such a proposition would supply the
wants of the poor of Ireland. The first consideration for
the Committee was to see if they could not adopt a lass
dilatory proceeding in Committees with respect to rail-
way Bills than at present existed.

The O'CONNOR DON believed that the suggestion
of the Committee to give precedence to Irish Bills would
be productive of the best effects, as its adoption
would give employment to the Irish labourers at their
own doors which they so much wanted.
Mr. AcmoNny thought the best course to be adopted
would be to allow those Irish measures to commence in
the House of Lords that would be benifitted by so
doing, but not to compel all Irish Railway Bills to
commence there, if with greater success they could
be proceeded with in the House of Commons.
Sir G. CLERK said the adoption of the suggestion of
the Hon. Member for Cockermouth would be attended
with the greatest injustice in competing line.
After some observations from Mr. Ross, Mr. GREEN,
Mr. W. CoLLErr trusted that in &ma fide measures
some course would be adopted to facilitate their pro.
eeedinp through the House.
Mr. BECKETT DENISON thought that if some of the
suggestions of the report were to be adopted, the greatest
injustice would be inflicted upon those measures that had
undergone the ordeal of the House of Commons, and had
been stopped in the House of Lords by the termination
of the session.. These observations were particularly
applicable to the London and York Railwap.
Mr. WARD could not see the justice of the remark of
the Hon. Member for Leeds. He thought the House of
Lords ought to have the measure competing with the
Londcn and York before it ere it decided in favour of
any one of them.
Lord G. SOMERSET was convinced the public would
be benefited by the adoption of the report of the com-
mittee.

Sir H. W. BARRON denied that employment would be
given immediately

to the p ogle of Ireland by passing Irish railroads, be•
cause nothing could be effectually done before Angus

next.

After some further discussion, the report was agreed to.
Mr. BUSFIELD brought in the Leeds and Bradford
Railway Bills, which were read a first time.

LEFT SITTING.

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.

We: are compelled to omit the markets from the Price
Current, in consequence of the late hour at which we re-
ceived them.

Tim LONDON GAZETTF
(THIS EVENING.)

PRINCE OF WALES' COUNCIL-CHAMBER,
SOMERSET-HOUSE, FEB. 4, 1846.
Christopher Henry Thomas Hawkins, of Trewlthen, in the
county of Cornwall, Esq., has been appointed Sheriff of the
' county of Cornwall.
DOWNING•STR EET, FEB. 4.
The Queen has been pleased to appoint Joseph Gibson
Gordon, Esq., to be Provost Marshal for the Virgin Islands.
CROWN-OFFICE, FEB. 6, 1846.
MEMBERS RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT.
COUNTY OF SUSSEX—EASTERN DIVISION.—CharIes Hay
Frewen, Esq., of Northiam, in the county of Sussex, in the
room of George Darby, Esq., who has accepted the office of
Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds.
City of Cork—Alexander 111tCarthy, Esq., of Upper Fitz
.william- street, in the city of Dublin, in the room of Francis
Stock Murphy, Esq., who has accepted the office of Steward
of her Majesty's Manor of Northstead.
Borough of Ripon—The Honourable Edwin Lascelles, of
Harwood House, in the county of York, and of Belgrave-
square, in the county of Middlesex, in the room of the Right
Honourable Thomas Berry Cusach Smith, who has accepted
the office of Master of the Rolls, in Ireland.
County of York—West Riding.—George William Frederick
Howard, commonly called Viscount Morpeth, in the room of
the Hon. John Stuart Wortley, nowßaron Wharncliffc, called
up to the House of Peers.
WAR OFFICE, FEB. 6.
4th Dragoon Guards—Leutt. T. Jones, from the 15th Light
Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice Souter, who exchan g,
Feb. 6.
7th Dragoon Guards—Cornet P. Bunbury to be Lieutenant,
by purchase, vice Arkwright, who retires; N. De la Cherois,
Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Bunbury, Feb. 6.
15th Light Dragoons—Lieut. R. Souter, from the 4th
Dragoon Guards, to be Lieutenant, vice Jones, who ex-
changes, Feb. 6.
Ist (the Royal) Regiment of Foot—Capt. W. Webster,
from half-pay Unattached,' to be Captain, vice R. Blacklin,
who exchanges, Feb. 6.
45th Foot-:-Lieutenant IL W. Woodbine Parish to be
Captain, by purchase, vice Lucas, who retires; Ensign L. T.
Cave to be Lieutenant, bypurchase, vice Parish ; F.R. Grant-
ham, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Cave, Feb. 6.
52d Foot—Ensign 11. M. Archdall to be Lieutenant by
purchase, vice Hawkins, who retires ; T. H. Vyvyan. Gent.,
to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Archdall ; G. H. Dundas,
Gent, to be Assistant Surgeon, vice Skene, deceased, Feb. 6.
56th Foot—Lieutenant G. W. Paten, to be Captain, by
purchase, vice Smith, who retires; Ensign G. S. Hanson, to
be Lieutenant, vice Patey ; W. W. Bassett, Gent., to be En-
sign, by purchase, vice Hanson ; Feb. 6.
57th Foot—Lieut. E. Stanley to be Captain, without pur-
chase, vice Lynch, deceased,.Dec. 29, 1845. •
78th Foot—Assistant Surgeon J. Leitch, M.D., from the
94th Foot, to be Assistant Surgeon, vice limes, appointed to
the 4th Dragoon Guards, Feb. 6.
92d Foot—The Hon. W. Charteris to be Ensign, by pur-
chase, vice Carnegie, appointed to the Grenadier Regiment
of Foot Guards, Fels. 6.
97th Foot—Lieut. M. A. Obert to be Captain, by purchase,
vice Garforth, who retires; Ensign E. D. Harvest to be
Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Obert; T. E. Jones, Gent., to
be Ensign, by purchase, vice Harvest, Feb. 6.
Ceylon Rifle Regiment—Lieutenant-Colonel H. Simmonds,
from the St. Helena Regiment, to be Lieutenant. Colonel,
vice A. Montresor, who retires upon half-pay unattached,
Feb. 6.
St. Helena Regiment—Dieutenant-Colonel J. Ross, from
half-pay unattached, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice Sim-
monds, appointed to the Ceylon Rifle Regiment, Feb. 6.
BnEvEr.—Surgeon A. lt. Jackson, M.D., Surgeon of the
East India Company's Depot at `Parley, to leave the local
and temporary rank of Staff-Surgeon of the First Class,
while so employed, Feb. 6.

UNArrActrED.—To be Captain, without purchase—Lieut.
W. Webster, from the Ist (Royal) Regiment of Foot, Feb. 5.
STAFF.—Lieutenant A. G. Moorhead, from the 26th Foot,
to ba Adjutant of a recruiting district, vice Mason, whose ap-
pointment has been cancelled, Feb. 6, 1846.
HOSPITAL STAFF.—Staff Assistant• Surgeon F. R. Waring
to be Staff-Surgeon of the Second Class, Dec. 15, 1845.
Mr:mouaziEum.—Captain C. S. S. Evans, 76th Foot, and
Lieutenant H. A. G. Evans, 22d Regiment, have been per-
mitted to assume and bear the name of Gordon, is addition
to and after that of Evans.

The name of the Assistant Surgeon, appointed to the 94th
Foot, on the 28d January 1846, is James Leitch, M.D. and
not Lutch, as previously stated.
Erratum in the Gazette of April 11, 1845-91st Regiment
of Foot—For Einign R. 11. Howard to be Lieutenant, with-
out purchase, vice Harding, who resigns, April 11, read En-
sign R. H. Howard to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice
Harding, deceased, Jan. 13, 1845.
OFFICE 'OF ORDNANCE, FEn. 6.
Royal Regiment of Artillery— Second Captain C. H.
Burnaby to be Captain, vice Shepherd, deceased First Lieut.
C. J. B. Riddell to be Second Captain, vice Burnaby; Second
Lieut. H. Mercer to be First Lieutenant, vice Riddell, Dec.
12, 1845.

MEMORANDUM.—The dates of the promotion of the under-
ientioned officers have been altered as follow :—Captain J.
file; Second Captain J. IL Lcfroy ; First Lieutenant R.
'helips, Nov. 30, 1845.

Corps of Royal Engineers—Major-General E. W. Darn-
ford to be Colonel Commandant, vice Sir F. W. Mulcgster,
deceased, Jan 29.

Commission by the Queen

East Kent Regiment of Militia—C. Winter Esq., late
Captain in the 60th Regiment of Foot, to be Adjutant, Dec.
31, 1845.
Commission by the Lord -Lieutenant of the county of Oxford.
R. P. C. Grenville Marquis of Chaudos to be Deputy-
Lieutenant, Feb. 3, 1843.
Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Kent.
West Kent Regiment of Militia—Captain T. G. Mony-
penny to be Major, vice Dalison, resigned, Jan. 20 ; Captain
T. T. Hodges to be Major, vice Bingham, resigned, Jan. 21 ;
Ensign M. H. Dalison to be Captain, vice Tyssen, resigned,
Jan. 20; F. F. J. Morrice, Esq. to be Captain, vice Baldwin,
resigned, Jan. 1846 ; G. Perkins, Esq., to be Captain, vice
Moneypenny, promoted, January 22
M. H. Jenner, Esq., to be Captain, vice T. T. Hodges, pro-
moted, Jau. 23; J. Coveney, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice
R. Hodges, commuted his half-pay; Jan. 20; C. G. King,
Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice How, deceased, Jan. 21;
R. T. G. G. Monypenny, Gent., to be Ensign, vica.Potter re-
signed, Jan. 20 ; J. M. Wilson the younger, Gent., to be En-
sign vice Dalison, promoted, Jan. 21; W. Sankey, Gent., to
be gurgeon, vice Sexty, deceased, Jan. 31.
East Kent Regiment of Militia—Ensign W. A. Munn to
be Captain, vice E. 11. Darell, resigned, Jan. 20 ; C. A.
Mount, gent. to be Lieutenant, vice Payne, resigned, Jan. 21;
W. Leith, gent. to be Lieut., vice Baker, resigne,l, Jan. 22; 11.
Maxwell, gent. to be Lieut., viceCumming, promoted, Jan. 23 ;
23 ; T. Abbott, Gent., to be Ensign, vice Love, promoted,
Jan. 29; J. Abbott, Gent., to be Ensign, vice Perrott, pro-
moted, an.3o.

Commhsions by the Lord Lieutenant of Berkshire.
Royal Berkshire Regiment of Militia—Lieutenant E.
Virheble to be Captain, vice Bacon, promoted, Dec. 29 ;
H. Pole, Gent., to be lieutenant, vice Itilleble, promoted, Dec.
30.

' Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Perthshire.
Royal Perthshire Militia—Captain R. Graham. late Cap-
tain in the 68th Regiment, to be Captain, vice J. S. Menzies,
resigned; F. N. Menzies, Gent., to be Captain, vice A. But-
tor, resigned; J. Isdalc,, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice D. Ro-
b3rtson, deceased ; Feb. 3.
Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Caithness-shire.
Ross-shire, &c., Militia.—T. F. SinclAir7 Esq., to be Cap.
, tain, vice John Sinclair, resigned, Jan. 1 ;J. C. Laing, Gent.
to be Lieutenant, vice A. Henderson, resigned, Jan. 27.
WHITEHALL, JAN. 28.

The Lord Chancellor has appointed Thomas Amphlett, o
Sutton Coldtield, in the county of Warwick, Gent., to be a
Master Extraordinary in the lligh Court of Chancery.
WHITEHALL, FEB. 2.
The Lord Chancellor has appoinled James Philcox, the
younger, of Burwash, in the county of Sussex, Gent., to be
a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery.

BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED.
John Pickles, cotton manufacturer, Preston.

John Smith, warehouseman, Creiceut, Jewin-steet, Crip
plegate.

BANKRUPTS.
John Roberts, clothier, Kidderminster.
Samuel Noller, carrier, Debenham, Suffolk.
Hon. Francis Henry Needham, New Bond-street.
Richard Charles Turner, builder, lioundsditch.
Robert Gunn, corn dealer, Clare,
Joseph Henry Nock, outfitter, High-street, Poplar.
Alexander Inglis, diaper, Portsea.
George Duckbarn, butcher, Newport.
'John White, wine merchant, St. Benet's-place, Grace.
church-street.
Edward White Baxter, ironmonger, Coventry.
Francis Ward, rag merchant, Batley, Yorkshire.
John Wm. Frost, coffee dealer, Back-lane, Kingsland-road,
William Stockbridge, tobacconist, -Wandsworth.
John Hill, currier, Birmingham.
James Duke, brick-maker, Newark-upon-Trent.
George Handel Openshaw, power loom cloth manufacture:.
Over Darwen, Lancashire.
John Burbidge, jun. and John' Burbidge, sen., cabinet-
makers, Tysoe-street, Clerkenwell.
Charles Moyle, linendraper, Whitchurch, Shropshire.
PRICE OF SUGAR.

The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, the
produce of the British possessions in America, computed
from the returns made in the week ending :Feb. 3, 1846,; is
355. lid. per cwt.

SUDDEN DEATH AT TUE DINNER TABLE.— Yesterday
Mr.' Wakley, M.P., held an inquest at the Coleridge Arms,
Princess-street, Lidson-grove, on the body of Jaseph Vining,
aged 59, a tobacco-pipe maker, at 12, Sandford. street. On
Sunday last he sat down to dinner, and hig wife having said
grace, he responded fervently " Amen." Instantly after-
wards, he sank down in his chair, and having moaned three
times, expired. He was latterly in good health, though
partly disabled by a previous paralytic attack. Verdict—
" Accidental Death."

The Secretary to the Conamander-in-Chie;
transacted business yesterday at the Foreign-office.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, Thursday, Feb. 5.

There Lordships met et Five o'cl,:ck.
The Earl of STRADBROKE presented several pets
Lions from various places in 'Cambridgeshire, the Isle o►
Ely, and the county of 'Suffolk, against any change
being made in the present protective system.
POOR-LAWS (IRELAND).

Lord CLANCARTY moved for the appointment of
a committee to inquire into the laws relating to the re-
lief of the sick poor and destitute in Ireland. Ile would
lay before their Lordships the grounds upon which he
would ask Noble Lords to grant him this committee.
LOoking at the present condition of the people
of Ireland and the accounts of the agrarian disturbances,
assassinations, end systematic attacks upon private pro-
perty which constantly reach us, circumstances which
might no doubt be attributed to other causes, but which
in his opinion were mainly attributable to the destitution
at present existing in that country—looking at these
things, he thought that the Committee ought to be granted
It was important for Noble Lords to inquire into the
operation of such laws as were designed for the benefit
of the poor of Ireland. The Medical Charities and
the Poor-law Bills, be considefed, deserved their
most serious consideration. The Poor-law Bill, in order to
be efficient for its purpose, should not only afford relief
to the destitute, but should also place persons above
destitution. And in such a country as Ireland it might ex-
ercise, if properly conducted, a most beneficial influence.
If their Lordships would turn to a report which had
been laid on the table, they would see the abuses end
defects of the existing law for the medical relief of the
poor. They would see in that report abundant argu-
ments for legielative interference. Ile would likewise
refer their Lordships to the report of a committee of
the House of Commons, which had laboriously investi-
gated the subject of medical charities. That Committee was
appointed through the instrumentality of the Hon. !Aera-
tor Roscommon. His Noble Friend, the present Post-
master-General, who was then a Member of the House
of Commons, was upon that Committee, and he would
correct him (Lord Clancarty) if he were wrong in stat-
ing that the committee were unanimous in their opinion
as to the importance of legislative interference with re-
spect to . the medical charities of Ireland: They were
unanimous upon that point, but unfortunately they could
not agree upon any other. A reference to the poor-law
statistics of Ireland would show their Lordships that the
workhouses though formerly designed as receptacles
only for the destitute bad practically become hospitals
for the treatment of chron.c and other disorders, and
boarding schools, as it were, fur the children of the
paupers. He trusted that their Lordships, in looking
iute the abuses or rather the inefficiency of these
institutions, would legislate in such a manner as
would remedy the evils he had to complain of. In
Ireland there were three institutions for the benefit
of the- poor. There were the iatirmaries, the fever hos-
pitals, and the dispensaries, but they were so scattered
,
apart that they were not of that advantage to the poor
which the necoesity of cases demanded. Now these
institutions were partly supported by grants from
the counties, and subscriptions from the chari-
table. There was also a grant to many of those
charities from the Government, but the amount at dis-
posal was not only insufficient, but it was not eo advan-
tageously disposed of as it could be under a well-ma-
naged system. In 1843, a gentleman spent much of his
valuable time in looking into the present state
of the medical charities of Ireland; he meant
the Hots. Member for Roscommon. He could assure
their Lordships, that that Hon. Member would give all
the assistance in his power to any reform which legisla-
tion on the question would bring about. lie (the Noble
Lord) was of opinion that a rate should be paid by all
parties who were rateable, for the support of their re-
spective districts. He would have the means of medical
relief within the reach of every poor man's cabin in Ire-
land, and t!lis would be attended with the double advantage
of affording a speedy. recovery in slight and easy cases,
and of saving the valuable tiene of the medical men. This
object could be effected by establishing a number of fever
hospitals, and so placing them is every poor-low union,
that they should be, as it were, at tile' door of every
poor . man. The jurisdiction of a poor Inv union
in Ireland, ranges from within ton to twelve miles
he believed twelve miles was about the average
radius, and it wculd not be doing too much
to establish a local fever hospital in each of
these unions. And he would suggest also
that each union in Ireland should have an infirmary.
Now, with regard to the building of these
establishments, it might be done in many ways. He had
already alluded to an Irish Act of Parliament,
which gave the medical practitioner in each
union workhouse a salary of 100/. a year.
and he would propose that the sum of 100,000/. should
be raised partly by public, partly by. private subscription,
for the building of infirmaries, and that their
medical officers should be transferred to the new
establishments. This he thought was the best
mode of placing the medical relief of Ireland
on a safe and cure footing. It only remained for
Lim to state the manner in a hich he proposed
that these infirmaries and hospitals should be governed.
At present the local dispensaries were under the control
of the inedicalofficers appointed to them by the local autho-
rities. Now he wouldpropose that the power of governing
t4e new hospitals and infirmaries oiould be ow.

•••••••••••
jargeS t
ferred to a board, to be constituted of the
rate-payers in the parish in which the iustiti:
tions were situated; and that a donation of 20_1.
or an annual subscription of a smaller sum,
the institution, should entitle the donor to be elected 0.
this Board. This Board, conjointly with the Boardof Poor-law Guardians, he would suggest, should harcer
the power of electing medical officers as well as og
auditing the accounts ; and when it lye,
necessary that a patient should be admitted 01nra
the infirmary, the board of rate-payers sh
decide whether his treatment should be at the exPeillf;
Cif the institution, or of the patient hires,,e.,l
Having disposed of the principal matter of delimsi
he now came to the consideration of the propriety of
establishing a central medical nffice, for the purPelee
laying down regulations for the guidance of the lsie
authorities, and for the inspection and auditing
ea-
accounts, and confirming the general Pr°c6, teig
ings of the local boards. An officer of
sort would have ample information and Stio
cient --means fur reporting from time to ge
upon the sanatory condition of the country.
tbsa
could not conceive a subject of more importance in
that of the appointment of a general board of hea,l,t tioa
Ireland, and he would suggest that a central /est:Lilo
of this sort should be established in Dublin. st-
sure, however, that the subject would receive everJeree
tention from those who would be called upon t° sseg-
on the committee, and that proper means would be yip
gested of affording proper medical relief to those s•
stood so much in need of it. He did not think it eeioa,
sery- to refer to the. lunatic establishments of Ir sr,d
because they were under separate and distinct laws; !tile
did not, in fact, come within the compass of th
ject with which he was dealing. He did not, lnYivveolue
agree with the opinion of the Noble Lord (Lord ised,
eagle), who was an able advocate of the poor of Iretheir
and who did everything in his power to alleviatereee,
sufferings, because his plans would entail, he tbei leowe
unnecessary expense on that country. Lie won% with
ever, take that opportunity of saying a few we!r% test
respect to the Irish population. He did not belle
read'
there existed in Ireland at that moment, notisies oth
ing the unpopularity of the Act amongst certain Pt ono
sans of the people, and notwithstanding the,!
terms which had been applied to it, a reckless ego to
tion in favour of its abolition. He had taken 1°34/0
inquire into the date of opinion in Ireland with object,
to it, and had received several letters on the su„;;sof
which he should submit to the Committee, neTif- bad
which was in favour of the repeal of the law. -11)1.1blal
before him a report of a meeting held e'kel of
in 1843, under h© presidency of the
teinster, and attended by real and influentlee for
owners, and at which resolutions were passed es11:111be
a Parliamentary inquiry, in order that the law leeleitig
carried out in a more official manner, but not eui" bees
to the principle on which it was founded. It ha—
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bead said, with much truth, that the poor-law had b% se
duetive of drying up all the sources of charityr tbal
nevolence to the poor ; but they should recodtsefor ire
this was the natural consequence of a law haying woe
object the efficient support of the poorer classes, et, toe'
such charity might, in the estimation of some, a bsd
col;
applied. A Right Rev. Prelate had stated that for
lections in the churches fur the benefit of the Pc,r,,° sbie,
materially fallen off ; but he (Lord ClancartY) vr75110
to state that collections for other charitable objec`doplAt
increased instead of diminished. There was 11,.°,801e`
about the law being looked upon with a great, state'
prejudice ; but it would appear from this that t`,!'"clsti°",
ment that the law had dried up the springs e` esete'
thin charity was without foundation. ele eon 05
that the poor and destitute should not be tur-sortill
outcasts on society, or be left as mere objects sieeree
casual display of Christian benevolence. He et.°ll,-teriVs
that the proper field for the exercise of "esav
was outside the walls of the workhouse. Thererfoer°o,otseeite,
be ample opportunity afforded fur the p
of the duties of Christianity in a silent and I!)3Bsei°t"
bilious manner, even though these institutions di el he
He did not think it right that the country sb°vtete I
covered with the sick, the maimed, and the des": ore
and for that reason he considered these asyll'ebere
• perfectly necessary. In a country like Irelairt eel
the sustenance of the people was chiefly depenna,vbe efo'
manual labour, and where the relation between ' ore
pie) er and the workman was only of a temporal en t
he admitted the full. force of the argument. tSIOSP'
idle should be supported by the industrious. licftthr
that true policy, as well as humanity, would sugeesclesei
a provision should be made for the sick, poor, an
e" As;
tut© of Ireland, as well as for those of. Engleau'esside;
the only question now for their Lordships to errslie"
was, which was the best mode of affording tba'ssilli:
and most consistent with the interests of thecae:- t
Happily the case of England was a warning agsj,nslste:
ilicting upon the Irish people a system es'Dste)e'
to demoralise the people of that CO'
't to'
It had been urged against the poor-law that nete,.:ol.li;
destitution would dispose a man to resort to teeeesfes
house; and on the other hand, it had been ou'e-el
that no extent of workhouse accommodation we': goo'
sufficient for the numbers that would demand stic°,l:l
Both those objections had certainly been met 1-9015.;
realm Experience had always shown that the w 1
(
test of destitution was as available in Ireland es ,eoe
in England. He could state from his own obsers's,gee
that the workhouse did afford to the - infirm, the
esker
and the destitute, a comfortable asylum. T'e;
tint
o i
children were trained and educated in a mannt'ir.
them for an after-life of usefulness, and the er, eta°
able-bodied poor found the means of refuge in tilee ego
of their distress. He only regretted that, as it ha 1.151
found necessary to have a central board of re"e- so'
Commissioners. in Ireland as in England, they bs:illo0';
obtained the confidence of the Irish people. Great -9,
antes should be made for the gentlemen who welneer,
over to Ireland to introduce and to telulere°
a law such as the poor-law, when it was coatotel
that, as Englishmen, they were wholly Isneeeleee
with the people of! that country. With rei,e4
to the difficulty of collecting rates in Irc'ei3
their Lordships would remember that the reporgeteo
on the table of that House showed that the e°,.1,101t9
of those rates was frequently resisted. This n'se's
was owing to the fact of the rate-payers beevii,l,f tbJ
disappointed in their expectations of the eueeeceetpe
• law. They were led to believe that a poor-le`'
remove the miserable objects who crowded the ,st,
and highways, but the contrary was the res'
this moment Ireland presented as much misery"d, tri
the introduction of the poor laws ; and, ind,chee feel;
objects which presented themselves to excite `"
ings of the charitable were in many instances sioa
degrading to the country than they were lbtsfiesee
years before anything like a poor-law existed.-el/4,.' rote;
The system of rating land in Ireland for the runjy
was, he thought, greatly to be deplored, but vt s°,l
o class of men had had the courage to complain f lipc
that being poorclergythen of the Es,t„abel rbel
Church, were, in his opinion, very seriously ln.h7tr,(l
the system. The value of the land, when r 107:1
parish tithes, was always under estimated, but IP01:;"
lord took care to increase it when his doing s° s• !'eh
, to relieve him from a portion of the poor-ro"-.0,13,c,",
hoped, however, befcre long to see the oarrfersA OIL
had been raised up between the landowners °Lid',
tenants on account of difference of creeds w's-ees,sl
broken down, and that no more of those se' st,'`f
bloodshed and violence u hich disgraced the eer°lle,ft'
would occur. He hoped the proprietors 0, reel) yee
would do nll in their power to allevi2l-011:.
sufferings of the people of that country. 01,es'etiers
another point to which he wished to call their ut`;
It was this—that persons of the Protestant relig,i°,te'tlesbi
were compelled to go into the unions, were tevee-et
the other inmates on account of their
quently there were mo Protestant clergymen ilinAfefrA
and that many of the children of Protestanttdesie,
were handed over to the tuition of those who Pr' 005-
the Catholic religion, without any reference t° theoi
who alone should exercise parental control O'er
The Noble Lord then read a statement from a ?relit /ie.(
clergyman, setting forth that numbers of childrevrote'
thus removed, and calling on the racier
tent religion to put an end to such 1),0
In South Dublin Union Workhouse there wees r-tlohir
existing, which he would bring. under their -Vino Jts
notice—be alluded to the classification of th° narl't
by their religions. Roman Catholics were
re
from Protestants. He could not consider a eenre
able consequence could possibly arise, than the sa e9r.
tion which exists in this otherwise well conduct:llooses;
lam. lie considered it necessary, that in all 100'11'01d"
so
where there was a Catholic chapel, that there 5,, of,th's
also a Protestant chapel. He considered the dot) `P'",
guardians ought to be more defined- than at prese`jei of
Lord concluded by moving the appointive of P%
Select Committee to inquire into the operatiee slativs
Ist and 2d of Vic., cap. 16, and the other laws r-j 015-
to the relief of the destitute poor in Ireland ; efi-leaseieit
to inquire into the operatics of the medical ehai'a-el
1"
Ireland, which are supported wholly or Part de
grants from the county cess. A te"Le
Lord BROUGHAM said, the Noble Lord haeeet VA'
an unfounded charge when he said his motion Plibeid
been sufficiently attended to. Why he had bilasee tb'es
listening to the Noble Earl for the last hour Ivey ers
quarters, and what was the motion after all ? ot
had made an unopposed motion for the appointtnert cote;
Committee, and was it likely that a motion for .e largo
mittee would draw their Lordships together 7goboi
numbers ?—(Hear, hear.) And what had etliev be l'es
Lord done in moving for the Committee ? WnJci is
stated everything he intended to bring forware les 0,0"
Committee. Why the Noble Earl had d
ject in letting out there what he intended le Go;
issued from the Committee. He would urge tie-briel'c
efeatee to le
vernment in the strongest words he could use derY:i
forward those measures which were really ?ec,e,,s- ise
the peace of Ireland, which were alluded to In t 7 trusief'
from the throne.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped tivnoor 03,1
that they would be brought forward at once, - old itils
had ample time and opportunity to discuss there,
and
was sure they would meet with full attention ;:ositioto
ventured to say they would pass without °Piii;e4suroo
Every body seemed to be of opinion that these risen to
iyei,-; absolutely necessary, and he bad Dere witb°o
say that lie was quite confident they would Pa.see we°.
any opposititet; if framed as he had no doubt to
the
be, in a spirit of wisdom and mercy. hid cc,
The Duke of WELLINGTON said he o_oeittee
slightest objection to the appointment of the
cc for OF
or to the appointment of any other Couraglu
same purpose. the COO
The motion was then agreed to, and
appointed.
PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) 13-eis'L-Lay.° rend
This Bill was brought up from the Cenustw'
a first time.
Their Lordships92l.
rs Feb. 5.
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ROUSE OF COMMOA S, T4,u„s. 1-toth
IRISH SPIRITI e leheht ses.
Sir H. W. BARRON wished to ask t bessee
posed by which the landed in setestsri seen
Baronet opposite whether any alter.antiforueis`7l.o:ooldl7ii,
the benefit of the British market for 11:1111-b• 11% to
reason he asked the question was, tecanorprllo`
that it was the intention of tue

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