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London, England, 1848-08-25 00:00:00

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with the religion of some Scotch residents there.
Would the Ilon. Baronet define this interference in
either of these cases as political, international, civil, or
commercial?
Sir R. IL INGLIS replied that with respect to the
interference on behalf of the Vau.'ois, he had asked it
under a treaty with the Government of Savoy, which
reserved to England the right of intervention. In
Switzerland, the right to worship according to their
own tenets had been conceded to the Scottish residents.
But what was at present the case in Rome ? Why, the
British subjects professing the same religion as her Ma-
jesty had not been able to obtain permission from the
favoured Sovereign of the Roman States to have a build-
ing appropriated to religious worship, 1:1.. were oblig( d
to resort for that purpose to a granary outside the city

of Rome.
In answer to a question put by Col. THOMPSON,
Lord PALMERSTON said that if the Pope ceased to
be Sovereign of the Roman States, and that they should
either be taken by Austria or become a republic, there
was no law to prevent her Majesty establishing diolo
matic relations with them—it was only because the Pope
was the Sovereign that this measure was necessary.
Sir D. L. EVANS, alluding to the complaints of the
British subjects: resident at Rome, of the refusal of a
place of worship, said that the way to get that evil re-
dressed was to pass this Bill.
After a few words from Mr. Drummond (Surrey) and
Mr. Newdegate, in support of the amendment, and from
Mr. Macgregor against it,
Mr. REYNOLDS said it was difficult for an unlearned
person like him to understrnd what the Bill was. The
Hon. and Learned Member for the University of Dublin
said it was a Bill to make railways in Italy.—(Laughter.)
The llon, and Learned Member for Youghal said that
the Bill would interfere with the independence of the
Roman Catholic Church, and others again said it Ras a
blow at the Protestant Church. lie believed it was a
measure calculated to get rid of the bigoted and exclu-
sive legislation of former doys. He was sure that there
was no danger in this Bill either to the Roman Catholic
or Protestant Church.—(Hear, hear.) Hon. Gentlemen
said that this was a Protestant country. He denied that.
One-third of the population were Roman Catholic, and
at least another third were Dissenters. He looked upon
the measure as a proof of the march of enlightenment
and tOleration.—(llear, hear.)
Mr. ROBINSON did not see, if this Bill contemplated
merely political relations with the Court of Rome, what
objection there could be to the insertion of the words
proposed.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but no division
took place, the motion for reporting progress having been
postponed.
After a few words from Mr. ANSTEY,
The Committee divided on Mr. Pearson's amendment,
when there appeared—
For the amendment 3O
Against it
Majority .. .
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL moved that the words " So-
vereign Pontiff" be added to the clause. lie wished to
bring out the fact whether they would refuse to the Pope
the title by which he was generally recognised.
Mr. IL DRUMMOND was surprised that the Hon.
Gentleman should wish for the head of his Church a title
which was applied to all the pagan priests.—(Laughter.)
The Committee divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment 8
Against it lO4
Majority —96
The clause was then agreed to.
Mr. SPOONER moved that the Chairman report pro-
gress, which was agreed to.
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