The Sun.
London, England, 1846-03-31 00:00:00

GROUP XIX.

The Committee assembled at the usual hour this morning present
Lord Barry Vane (chairman), Honourable Francis bcott, the Earl of
March, Mr. D. Morris, and Mr. Plidlip Bennett.
A prclindnary conversation took )lace as to the next line which
sh,-uld be called after the disposal of the one now beterc the Commit-
It was ultimat,ly decided that the Bridgewater and Minchead
should 1011,,w, And would be called on fur hearing to-morrow.
The consideration of the proposed Bites of the
2,3l3Tfin, TOPSHAM, AND EXMOUTH, AND
Ir:3E111:111".a, .8113 EIiMOUTIS

was then re tithed.
Mr. SuALE appeared on behalf of the Corporation of Exeter, who
are trustees of the htir;,•e .es o; that city, tits owners and proprietors
of the canal. lie proceedwi .Ihow the Committee the injury this
cleat would safer by the hi; of vithe, of the proposed hue.%
asd should the Cetninittc.s, that sit:mica ovhienee had Lhigit
adduced showing the t.ce.s.,-it :or the construction of such a line,
it in would submit i fiat the P.aeier amt Y.xmoutli line be selecietl,
the opposing line crossing the C 41,4, and thereby ibjurnig ituo oh.
structinz the tiavigacion.
Mr. 11.1.EltIVALE Cc:plowed. Ile advocatet the Exeter, Topsham,
ata
()t tti 1 Exmouthisoveri rtobe oo :6.0,11 e , pointing out the capabilities and facili-
ties The town was then cleared for a diris!on. On our re-admission,
The CumageN ,a.d it was the tninrCmous opinion of the Committee
that the preamble et the Exeter, upsitani, and Exmouth lii.e nett not
been mei they are auto unit iimouily of opinion til.ti the
I,reamble of tile Exeter and (LotA,'s line) is proved, con-
tingeot upon the Exeter, 1 cove., and Dorchester fill passing.
The Committee then adjourned till twelve o'cluek to-morrow
(Wednesday).

. GROUP XXI.
LONDON P-ND ONVOZ.D.

The Committee re•assetnbled this morning at the usual hour; Mr.
Fisch !n the chin'.
As the promoter.; were miaide to proceed on account of the tempo-
rary absence of their engineer, who was engaged in another Com-
mittee, and other materisl witnesses, the Committee conseated to
adjourn until to-morrow.
PAYMENT OF OPPONENTS' COSTS.
The Committee intimated that the promoters of the Bill ought to
pay the costs tor the day of their opponents (the Great Western mid
the opposing landowners).
One en the senior camniittee clerks (Mr. Witham), who was con-
sulted on the subject, said they had adoptect no rule un the subject,
but it was left to the discretion of the Committee, from wheat any
order to that effect must emanate.
The Committee, however, made no order, but after the parties had
deliberated fur a few minutes on the ,subject, it was intimated that
the promoters had consented to pay the costs of the day, of counsel,
agents, esti withesses, of the opponents of the line.
It is expected th .t the Committee will bit enabled to come a de-
cision before the Easter holidays.
The Committee then adjourned until to-morrow.

GROUT XXV.
The Select Committee appointed to consider the merits of the Bills
comprised in this group re-assembled at the usual hour this morning,e
in the Westminster Sessions-house, the Hon. Dir. Laic.Bee in he
chair.

Tzar. nrvAx. Tritat.W -CS MINES.
Tile CLIAITtIIAN communicated to t...e wallet; that he had received
a cominui,ieation 'rout the Admiralty, stating that thur okietr,
Captain litautOrt, had examined into qt. merits 01 :he two
schemes, and he saw no solid obje,ctlOn t 9 other, but ut* th• two the
0Q .rd grchrrorl Mr, Draitlrwaite's My.

Mr. Cocxsmor then replied on behalf of the promoters of DS
Braithwaite's, contending that the line he advocated gave more 1.
cothinodation• to the local districts, through which It passed, ill
Mr. Ifocke's, itr so far as It intersected that part of the countrle
which was thickly populated, while the rival line passed along tio
banks o'.• the river Steer, tar away from where the pope:ladcl
was centralised. Besides, to prove that Mr. Braithwaite Li
line gave more local 'accommodation than the Eastern ti.rni°l
line, he might mention that there were three eteu°ll-
-
on the former, while he believed there was not one en the latter.
He submitted that the balance of local advantages preponderated in
favour of Mr. Braithwaite's line. He combatted the alleged adven,-
tage claimed by the rival line of saving six miles between Harwicn
and Ipswich. by directing the attention of the Committee to Ocil
fact that there was no trade between those places. The IpifteL
people had lately expended immense sums of money in improving
port and docks, and it was mpnstrous to suppose, as It aPPeareda.
be assumed on the other' side, that they Would transl
their large trade which was carried np the Ore%
to Harwich, at have their goods landed there, sTid
then conveyed by railway to Ipswich. What little train° w
exist was accommodated by steamers, and he wa, prepared to se,'
it could not be accommodated better. But then it was said the riot
line would shorten the distance by six miles between Harwich gall
the Northern and Midland districts. Now if the Committee 'VDU:.
just look at the map for one moment they would find that there
a line promoted front Chelmsford to Sudbury along the Stour Vall'e;
and having got there it was extended on to Bury, and thence
Thetford, whence there wi re lilies already is operation to Norwie
and Yarmouth, and then there was another line from Bury to VI
and Cambridge, extending on to Peterborough, which were all in closer
proximity to Mr. Itraithwalte's line, and would shorten the distance
between Harwich and the Midland districts and the north a coneiks
able deal more that, six miles. Then, in an engineering point
view, Mr. Braithwaite's line was infinitely superior to ...,
Locke's, while there could hardly be a doubt that tr.,
equity of the case was all in favour of the former projecy
for only two years ago Mr. Locke had insisted resolutely 11" w
determinedly that this was the best line the county could afford, _..A
the opinion was supported by Mr. Bidder and Mr. tlephenson. Then
again they had the Admiralty in their favour, and he hoped that the
resu:t would show that they had the Committee also.
The Committee, after a short consultation, decided that In'
preamble of the Harwich and Eastern Counties Junction Bill (31
Braithwaite's line) had been proved, and the preamble to ills Easta*.
Union Bill had not.

GROUP XXIX.
T 1,15 Committee re-assembled this morning, in room No.
Present, The Right Hort. H. Labouchere, Sir W. illoleswertlit DP,
J. Duckworth, Mr. J. A. Smith, and Colonel Rawdon.

aT3TON TO pr.TzunOROUGIC (DEVIA,
=OATS BILANCUES).

The clauses o. ibis Bill were proceeded with this mornings th.
preamble having been proved yesterday.
Previous to the first e;auss having been read,
Mr. :MACAULAY, in reply to au observation from the Chairraan'
said, that stgre, ably to the wish expi eased by the Committee yeete.7,
day, a clause had been drawn up by the promoters, and submitted
the agents of Lord. Ilarborough, the effect of winc„f
was to confine ' the Compsny to the construction
a tunnel, and nothing lint a tunnel in the centre line of railwsY,
binding them also not to go further into the park, ant to make the
tunnel without disturbing the surface of the park, and by this mean!
removing what the promoters understood to be the objection' °I
Lord Ilarborough.
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As Lord Harlsirough was not in London, the agents declinek.
enter into any agreement upon the subject, and the only altersau"
left was to submt, the clause to the Committee.
The CHAIRMAN inquired what objection the promoters bad to no
outside the park.
Mr. Anima.' said that no opportunity had ever been Oran tto tit
promote.- sto mai, a survey for that purp,se.
It was then agreed that the consideration of this point should be
postponed till alter the printed clauses were disposed of.
Mr. PAGET, on behalf of the proprietors of the Melton 310,4
bray Canal, proposed that a proviso should be added to the
.°
clause, to preclude the promoters front closing the Oakham CanaL,A
Mr. AUSTIN said that no powers were proposed to be taken
regard to the Oakham Canal.

The Committee, therefore, refused the application.
The clauses were then proceeded with.
Mr. Liddell was then re-called to ascertain the additional e'AlOl
which would be incurred by carrying the line out of Lord 10r;
borough's park. lie stated that it could be constructed in
manner for 3,0001. or 4,0001.
Mr. TALBOT intimated that the promoters would consent to tags
the line outside the park. Their views were exceedingly " sque"--;
able," and knowing who they had to deal with they would coLses
to anything.
ant
Mr. Stephenson confirmed the evidence of Mr. Liddell, and I
la
that by going out the park the length of the tunnel would be
creased tiP or TO yards.
The room was then cleared, and on our re-admission
~.os the
The ChAIRMAN said that the Committee were prepared to ar---
clause as it had been pres,nted by the promoters, if the latter
und"
sisted The injury done to Lord Harborough's park, by going
it for so short a space, was not sufficient to warrant the Coroin_„„"
forcing upon the promoters to incur an additional expense of gpvy"
and on the public the Inconvenience of a lengthened tunnel.
Mr. Mlcautat said that the promoters would accept the
as it stood, but if they found the line could be made outside W
park, without inconvenience or great extra expense, that should
done.
The clauses were then passed, the report was agreed tO, $3 Ws
Bill will be presented to the House en Thursday next.

GROUP XXXIV.
This Committee assembled to-day at twelve o'clock.
Hon. W. Cowper, Lord bully's, Hon. Montague Gore, Mr. IN 84—
and Mr. Saunders Davies.

ORE .T GELXIVISIM AND SZEPriata)
(HUDIBEII rzurazs).

The consideration of this 13ii1 was resumed.
Mr. HOPE said that, since yesterday, they (the promoters of tb...A
Bill) had been making every endeavour to meet the objections rale;
by the Corporation of null with rsierence to the Humber Ferri
They were ready to strike out of the 13:11 everything with refer&gs
to the ferry in question which might be objectionable. Until)
stately, however, he understood that a question had arisen -dr
respect to the rights of the Crown. The people were anxious to
stray those rights, and the Government to preserve them, so that
promoters were placed in a vet') awkward position. tie°
Mr. HMI. said, he had heard with great pleasure the observti
of his Learned Friend, who had perfectly comprehended the ref:1111;v
meats 01 the Corporatieu of Hull. There were but two terries 10-ef
Humber which could stand the test of legal examination.
were neither of than perfect. but on the contrary very itnFlrool
The right of ferry possessed by the Corporation of Hull, vese:;eo
New Holland to Hull, and that of the Government was front o'lo
to Hull. The inhabitants of Hull had become impressed with onto,
that it would be desirable to give up entirely all pecuniary ;elven., /t
accruing from the ferry over the river Humber. The corpor.ticLut
their own cost had conetracted docks, and they were now los
expending 10,0001. in .he Improvement of those decks. ,004
corporation and the in:iabltants of Hull were '
that this railway Company should have a free oage over the river ; but what they did obiec" sof
was, that the Company should clothe themselves with
„„ sit
exclusive rights. But they said they were wdliug to give ".`ije•
such. Under these circumstances, he would w ish that the colow
ration 01 the I.fll should be adjourned till it was ascettalued
they were to act wills reterehee to the rights of the Crown. .0 OA
• lion. Mr. Gotta—.tight there not be a clause introduced into
Bill to protect the rights of the Crown ? • 01
air. TmiteE said he appeared on be:mlf of the Hull and mov
ted
Railway, which man i:s connexion with the present Bill, be 1,70)
he would be exemed reierrnig to it, as it might regulate them 1300
ri spect to their proceedhit;s in reference to the other
tied
on the list. The line for which h
me. r
e was e°ncoosi
tha _Clalonmittam • thll'% it tis.
Friday, and it would be for the cenvenience ofn all parti`' • It
whole remainder of the group were adjourned till after Fiasterci
would, lit all probability, conduce to the public interests if s°
adjournment were agreed to.
The room was cleared, and on our re-admission, 01
The eIIAIRMAN said that in compliance with the stigges,tint!
obs
counsel they would adjoi:rn the farther consideration of the GP

and Sffield Rill till Friday on
xt.
The CHAIRMAN said that ou Friday next the Committee w
termine on what day atter Laster the would meet. : col°
The CHAIRMAN said also, that tbey Great Grimsby and lnvoo
xtenson, Lincoln and Loath, and Lincoln and Barton BP'
adjourned till after Easter. AAI HO
The Committee adjourned at half-past one o'clock, nail F..—

Sub-Committee, No. 1. irr
This Committee met to-day at twelve. o'clock in room No „• d ISP
sent, Mr. Strutt (Chairman), Mr. Clive, Mr. Brothertonf "^"
Beckett, and resumed the consideration of the kg 001(
NEIVCiaTLE-UIV.N-TYN.E, EDINBURGH, AND GL—
JUNCTION. Wel
The allegations of inaccuracies, &c., in the plans and sectioll*
further gone into.

• Sub-Coramittee No. 2.
The Committee met at twelve o'clock in the room No. 6 (6010.11:
Present— Sir E. Y. Buller (Chairman), Mr. Ramble, Mr. Wwtioe
Mr. E. Yorke, and Mr. Branaston, and resumed the considers
of the
GREAT EASTERN AND WESTERN.
Some allegations of the petitions were disposed of again& the,. 0
under thee circumstances, of some curiosity. The p,titielis';fo
leged that the required deposits were not made with the parish OS!
of some parishes in Wales through which the line would PIT, ti 7
parish clerks were produced to prove the allegations. But.deposli'
other hand, it was shown that the persons with whom till
were made, and who represented themselves as the pans' ere
and mewled the fees upon the deposits, 2s. 6d. in each case,
reality only the vestry clerks. aCi
The Committee in these cases (with apparent hesitation)
that the allegations were proved.

Sub-Committee, No, S. 50.
This Committee met to-day at twelve o'clock in ram,
Present, Mr. Aglionby (chairman), Mr. Thomely, Mr. LtHgCt''
Mr. ::tansitehl. They proceeded with the formal evidence