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LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 19, 1833.

of the front rank were slipshod, the rear rank
haying trod down the heels of their shoes ; and,
when ordered to stand at ease, they usually
sat down on the gra-s to enable them to pull
them up. Notwithstanding, however, the talents
of our commanding officer, and the rank of
many of the priv Lies, our military character was
not splendid ; and we merged into the Law
A.,sociation commanded by Lord Erskine.—
Fraser's Magazine.

SKETCH OF THE CHARACTER OF THE
EMPEROR NICHOLAS.-(BY A POLE.)

It is surprising that there should be persons
so dull or so perverse, as to believe there are
good qualities in the character of Nicholas. As
for me, it is but once in my life that I have
seen him, about six years since. I was then iri
Tytomierz, in Volhynia, through which he
passed in a travelling carriage. At the first
glance I had of his countenance, it brought to
'fly recollection, I do not know how, Tiberius,
Emperor of the Romans, such as he is known
to me from Tacitus. I am no Lavaterist, but
his features seemed to me to express great art-
fulness, and cruelty of character. Thousands
and thousands of virtuous Romans fell under
the axe of the lase` majestatis of Tiberius. The
throne of Nicholas, also, is stained with the
blood of his subjects, and his Siberia and his
gaols swallow the victims of the purest patriot-
ism—Poles or Russians. I knew a young man
who passed some years at Petersburgh. He
was at the side of Nicholas during the scene of
-his arrival. The people were assembled. The
Czar spoke to them, and assured them that he
would be their father—that he would not spare
either his blood or his life for the good of his
people—(these hyperboles strongly resemble
those uttered by Louis Philip on a similar
occasion)—superb actor for an audience of
fools ! He even shed tears, and in the ardour
of the love he wished to express for his subjects,
he seized the merest bourlack (a name given in
Poland to a Muscovite, with a long beard and
hideous air) embraced him and kissed him in
the Russian fashion, mouth to mouth. The
people, seduced by the cheat, raised a shout
of joy, and vowed eternal fidelity. But
during this scene, an Aide-decamp of his
Majesty arrives in great haste, and an-
nounces to him in French that the regi-
ment Preobrazanski had revolted, and had re-
fused to take the oath to him. Nicholas answered
him in the same language—" No matter, we
will soon stifle that handful." He advances in
procession, when firing began to be heard—he
turned pale, and sheltered himself behind a
wall—a battle then commences in the very city.
The people were between the fires in the square,
where stands the statue of Peter the Great—a
panic seized every one, and men and women
were flying in all directions to avoid the balls.
At night eight pieces of cannon were placed at
the ioot of 4 11UUJC, 4101 COIIIIIIUI/4.6. .14,1"
tiers for Fume Limo, until the unfortunate regi-
ment was totally destroyed. Such is the father
of his people ! Has the conduct of the popu-
lar King of the French been one whit more
paternal ?

The late Earl of DUDLEY, during his life-
time, contributed several interesting, and some of them
extremely caustic, ar ides to the Quarterly Review. We
believe we are enabled to point them out, and that our
statement may he depend.d upon fir its accuracy. His
Lordship reviewed the Lite of Lord CHARLEMONT ;
SYDNEY SMITH'S Sermons; Rosco E's Letters to Earl
GREY ; WAKFFIELD'S Correspond- nee with Fox ; Miss
EDGswowrit's Patronage; Luniticr.r.'s Letters to JULIA ;
RoGEßs's Poem of CoLumnus; and STEvENs'S Life of
HORNE ToOKE. When the review of SYDNEY Slimes
Sermons appeared, the Noble Lord (then Mr. WARD) was
on terms of great intimacy with the Rev. Gentleman, ind
as the article is rather severe, profounl secrecy was ob-
served by Mr. GIFFORD, the editor, and Mr. MURRAY,
the proprietor and publis•,er, relating to the author. M.
LITILETON, M.P. for Stsffordshire, the Bishop of Ex ErF.a.,
and two other persons are said to lie the executors of the
deee,sed EA. The will, by some of its very extraordi
❑ary b quests, is, we are told, ca culated to excite much
Little-tattle, and scandalous interpretation.
LORD LLANDAFF.—A remarkable circum-
stance, connected with the change of the last Eril's grand-
father born the Catholic religion, has cane to our know-
ledge. A member of the Penoefather loftily, we are
informed, took a fancy to two beautiful horses oriven by
Lord LLANDAFF, as both gen le ..en were travelling toge-
ther to a town in Tipperary. He ban led his Lordship ten
pounds, and required of him, as a Papist, to surren ter
them. His Lordship complied reluctantly, but proceeded
instantly to the palace of the Protestant Archbishop of
Cashel, and a idressed his Grace as follows My Lord,
if to swear that your religion is better than mine makes a
man a good Protestant, I call upon your Lordship to re-
ceive my recantation." The Archbishop, of course, com-
plied. Lord LLANDAFF became a " good Piotestant,"
and sent imtnemately to Mr. PENNEFATHER, who was
obliged to return his Lordship's horses..—. Dublin Free.
man's Jouratal.

LIVERPOOLCOTTON-MARKET,FRIDAY.—
There has been a very good demand for CO, ton this week,
with a healthy market for all kinds. Brazils, Egyptians,
and Sea Islan,ls are ed, to id. per lb. higher, particularly
the litter, for which there has been more inquiry ; other
kinds fully maintain former quotations. The cot-
tons at auction sold steadily at full prices. 500 Surats
have been taken on speculation, and 400 Surats, 150
Bengals, and 500 Americans for exp rt. The import
is 14,855 bags, and the sales r ach 21,04.0 bags—viz.
630 Sea Islands, 11d. to 1411. ; 100 4, ,ined ditto, 7d. to
10,1. ; 8,270 bowed, to 8 I. ; 6,540 New Orleans,
bit to 9d. ; 1,250 Alahamas, 6.;,1 I, to 7i-1.; 360 Per-
name, Sid. to 10A-d. ; 160 Balints, 7id. to Si I. ; 770
Mar anhatus, 83-d. to 9a,.; 90 Demeraras, 91.1. to 104. ;
30 Bat badoes, ;id. to Sp.; 20 Ginn. West lodias, 6FI.
30 Smyrnas, 7d. ; 120 Egyptians, 9d. to 104. ; 1,030
Sprats, 4ad. to 61d. ; and 160 Bengali at 54. per lb.
Today tnere has been a fair demand for cotton, and
2,500 bales are the estimated sales, which, with the ex-
ception of 30 S awginned Maranhains at sal. and 20
Egyptians at 92d., are all in American descriptions, from
611. to Bid.
CHOLERA IN THE COUNTY LIMERICK.
—The following was on Tuesday received by Dr. RYAN,
R. C. 8., from Dean MACNAMARA, P. P. Brag :
`• Never was there anything like the state (if the surround-
ing country. Cholera has spread ya round. The Rev.
Mr. NEONAN. curate of Ktiockany, was here to-day, to
purchase coffins, there not being hands enough in that
pl ace to make them. At Hospital, to-day, the parish
priest and twelve of his flock are dead of cholera.
Forty persons were attacked last night with the pesti-
lence, out of which the above number fell a prey in a very
few hours to its malignant fury. Poor Dr. O'CONNELL
said mass yesterday, and appeared to enjoy excellent
health. The manner of his death (being taken off in
the course of three or four hours has created a general
feeling of regret and consternation through the surround
ing country. Ki mallock, to,', is nearly as bad. Bruree
Is totally deserted ; Fedarnore is attacked at all points ;
the Rev. Mr. M•Can.TriY, the parish priest, and his co-
adjutor, have been called out of bed to attend the sick
and dying eleven nights in succession. In short, the p anic
throughout the country far exceeds anything within the
memory of man. I need not add, that we are every
moment apprehending a return of the malady here ; but
we are now much itetter prepared than formerly."--
Dublin
Morning Register.

IMI ERIAL PARLIAMENT.

Ho USE OF COMMONS, MARcmlB.
The SPEAKER, to 4 the Chair a few minutes after five,

HERTFORD ELECTION.

Mr. BERNAL said he had given notice, pursuant to a
special report of the Committee appo.nted to try the vali-
dity of the election for the above named borough, that he
would this day move that a message be Sent to the Lords,
requesting their Lordships t-t allow the Marquis of Salis-
bury to attend for the purpose of giving his evidence
before the Committee, and produce cert lin leases, agree-
ments, and copies thereof, entered into by his Lordship,
of ptemises in the borough of • Hertford ; and the consi-
deration of that notice stood for this day. He had,
however, revived a letter, as Chairman of the Com-
mittee, from the Noble Marquis, in which he stated that,
understanding it would suit the convenience of the Com-
mittee to see the agreements he had entered into with
some of his cottage tenants, he should send one for the
information of the Committee which he hid received,
assuring them that toe others were precisely in the same
terms for the purpose of preventing delay. In conse-
quence of having received this letter, he be;:tged leave to
move that the older of the day for taking the report
and request of the Committee into consideration should
be discharged. _

Lord EBRINGTON, seeing the Secretary at War in
his place, begged leave to ask whether he could inform
him at what period he should he able to lay before the
House the returns respecting garrisons ?
Sir J. HOBHOUSE said it would necessarily take
some time, as he should be obliged to write to the Com
wanders of each of the garrisons, and these letters must
be answered before 'he returns could be produced.
Lord EBBING fON hoped that they would be pro-
duced before his Ript Hon. Ft lend (Sir J C. Hob-
house) proposed to move the army estimates. The Noble
Lord then gave notice that, on the motion to go into the
army estiin ites, he should move that a Select Committee
be appointed to inquire into the salaries of Governors and
Lieutenant Governors of garrisons, and with the view of as-
certaining whether any and what deductions could be made.
Mr. S fRICKLAND gave notice that on Wednesday,
the 27th March, he should present a petition against the
Bill, for the limitation of actions and suits relating to real
property, and against a Bill for the amendment of the law
of inheritance. He should then also move that the said
Bi.ls he referred to a Select Committee

Mr. O'DWYER said he had given notice of a motion
for a return of the number and of the names of the several
British military officers deprived of their commissions in
the army by the ex-rcise of the prerogative, and without
the sentence of a courtmaitial, since the year 1815. Now,
be understood that such returns hid been already pro-
duced : he should move that they should be extended to
the year 1822.

Sir J. HOBHOLISE would grant the number, but not
:he names.

An HoN. MEMBER gave notice that on the 26th of
March he would call the attention of the House to the
st ite of the commercial relations of the country, and to the
measures which were necessary for the purpose of establish-
ing them on a substantial and honourable basis.
Lord ALTHORP moved the order of the day for re-
ceiving. the report of the Committee of Supply to his
Majesty.

Mr. GILLON, as we understood, gave notice of Lie
intention of going into the consideration of the tempo-
ralities of the Church of Ireland, to move that they be
appropriated to the purposes of national education.
The report of the Committee of Supply was then
brought up by Mr. BERNAL, and read.
The resolution of the Committee of Supply for defraying
the expens .s of the Revising Barristers, was then read.
On the question being put—
Lord G. SOMERSET said, although he did not intend
to oppose' the motion, there were one or two points to which
he wished to advert. did not understand why two in
dual, travelliog the same distance, being occupied the same
titne;anu navifig toe saiiie
such extremely different charges as appeared in the ex-
penses of It-vising Barristers. He would not specify the
names of any persons, but lie would instance the cases of
two individuals in Derbyshire, who had been occupied
sixteen days each, one charging 801. and the other
charging 41 4s. There were a great number of

similar - instances, and although he had no doubt
that there were sufficient reasons to induce the Tteasury to
allow those sums, yet he should like to be informed upon
what principle the Treasury acted in allowing and disal-
lowing those expenses. He was aware that by a clause in
the Reform Bill, he might be told that the Treasury had
no cognizance over the matter, but he hoped the Noble
Lord (Althorp) would not shelter himself under that
clause, but would at once state the principle which was
acted upon. If there were only one instance at that kind
it would be hardly worth while to take notice of it, but
there were a great number of a similar kind.
Lord ALT HORP stated that there were certain expenses
that were common to all the revising barristers.
W.th respect to the rest, the Treasury had laid
down a principle, by which they established what
they thought would he a fair remuneration for each
circuit. Where the charges had ixceeled that sum it Was
reduced to the fixed amount, bui in some instances the
charges had been less than that amount, and in those
instances the charges hail not been raised.

Mr. COBBETT said his objection to the charge
Was of quite a different nature. lie objected to

it, nut because it was too much, or that it was unfair,
for sure he was that every thing a lawyer had to do
with was fair and rea.onable—(Laughter)—but because
those who were not allowed to vote, kid to pay for
it.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Those expenses ought to
be paid out of some comity rate, or by sonic
other means ; at all events, by tho-e who were permitted
to vote, and not by those who were not permitted
to vote. A very great majority of the people Wert*
thought to be unworthy at the right of voting; but they
were not at all thought unworthy of paying for an inquiry
into other people's votes.—(Laughter.)
Ma. HUME said that he had at a former period made
remarks slim' it to those of the Hon. Member for Old-
ham. In Scotland nobody paid any thing except those
actually registered, and half a-crown paid the whole ex-
penses of registration. It was hard upon the people of
Scotland, after having thus paid their own expenses, that
they should now be caged upon to pay a portion of those
of the people of England. He begged to suggest to the
Noble Lord to stop the continuance of this clause, which
was against all justice and principle.
Lord ALTHORP said that the manner in which the
barristers were to be paid in each county had been provided
for by the Reform Bill, but he could agree neither
with the Honourabl- Member fur Wham nor the

Hula. Aienilarr for 11Iiddlesex in saying that only th'ise who
registered their names ought to contribute ta the expenses
of the registration. Ttie rrsolution w.s then la.4reed to.
DISTURBANCES (IRELAND) BILL.
The order of the day having been read for the House
going into Committee on the abova Bill,
Lord ALTHORP moved tliat the Speaker do now
leave the Cnair,

The question having (teen put,
Mr. COBBETT said that this Bill had been brought
into the other Huuse of Parliament by one Englishman,
and had beer. recommended to them to pass by the lips of
another Englishman. Now, he should count himself un-
worthy, not merely of the ❑ame of Englishman, but of
existence itself, if he did not now say that they ought
to put a stop to the proceedings of this Bill.—( Hear.)
O ,jections had been made to divers parts of the
13i11, and the consequences which would result from them
had been pointed out. He should perhaps take a different
view of the matter from others, but what he had to say
would be in plain words, and of those words as few as he
could possibly find to answer his purpose. He bad
looked ov,r--indeed he remembered without doing so
—the deeds of Pitt, the deeds of Addington, the deeds
of Percival, and the deeds of Castlereagh—( Hear).—
and he Lad found in this Bill an infamous preeminence over
ad those deeds. Here they were cone at last to military
tribunals, instead of Judges and Juries for Courts of
Justice. That was what he mainly objected to.—(Bonne
confusion here occurred in the House.) He could stop
till gentlemen had settled thems-lees ; hut the inure quiet
they were, the less time he would take. Time first thing that
struck him in this Bill was, that, although they beard
a great deal about Blackfeet and Wbiteftet, about midnight
robberies and assassinations, and a great deal about vio-
lence, which nothing but force could repress, and a great deal
about other matters, which might lead them to anticipate
that it might be proposed to send an army to put down
insurrections and murder, yet, when he came to look
into the provisions of the Bill, he found that the
remedy provided fur the evil was, the establishment

( PRICE 711.)

of red-coat tribunals ! Yes, officers of the army, corn
pletely under the control and disposition of the Govern-
ment, were, without judge or jury, to try men for a libel-
It was impossible to read that, and, at the same time,
believe his Majesty's Ministers to be sincere in the detail
they gave to ,ustify the passing of this Bill. Midnight
robbers and assassins were not at the same time writers
of libels. In the next place, these tribunals were to take
cognizance not only of lih.-ls, but as far as matter was left
by the Bill, of all other things whatsoever, except mere
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his estimate of the sincerity of his Majesty's Government.
There was one omission, and a very material omission, in
the Bill, which he was sure would speak volumes, not
only to the House, but to the whole country. In every
Bill of the sort hitherto passed—God knew they had had
enough of them, he himself had seen so many of them
as to make it a matter of doubt with him, whether the
Constitution was not a mere nose of wax, to be taken
between the fingers and twisted at the pleasure of any
Ministry whatever—in all former Acts of this sort, he
s there had been a provision exempting Members of .:his
House from its operation ; so that, if chargeable with any
of the practices embraced by the Bill, the leave of this
Reuse must be given before it could be applied to their case.
In the measure before us there was no such proviaien„ and
as the Bill now stood any Member of this House being in
Ireland, in what the Lord Lieutenant chose to declare a
disturbed district, could, if by chance or otherwise he
were found at any meeting, be immediately seized, taken
lefore a red coat tribunal, sentenced to transportation for
life, and sent off by the next morning. It was impos.
sible to suppose that this omission was not designed.
By this Bill the House was giving to the Lord Lieu-
tenant the power of s-nding those Irish Gentlemen, who
had so ably defended their country, to Botany Bay. Would
the House, he would ask, sink itself so low as that ? And
it was to be remembered that it was in a reformed Par-
liament Ministers had brought forward the measure. In the
most unreformed Parliament care was always taken of their
own body ; but if the present Bill passed, there would be
no safety to Members of that House—(Hear)—and to
a military government it must come at last. The present
system of taxation could not be carried on without a mili-
tary government. Judges and juries must be dismissed to
carry on the present system of taxation ; it was so villainous
and unjust that it was impossible to carry it on without
the force of military law. It was because he was so con-
vinced that he bad risen to warn the House of the scourge
that was coming forward by countenancing these mea-
sures. But it had been said that the measure was
only to be temporary ; lie could not believe
it, it would he continued in Ireland, and afterwards intro-
duced into this country. Things were going gradually
on ; for, first of all, the police had been introduced ; the
next thing was a military police, and, last of all, this
country would be blessed with the red-coated gentry
government. The Noble Lord opposite, he was quite
sure, would remember the time when the greatest
horror was expressed at the very name of the
police. Pitt had first introduced a measure
for the purpose of forming a police, to the consi-
deration of the House. The present first Lord of
tie Treasury, together with Mr. Fox, fought manfully at
that time against the introduction of the Bill, observing
that if this measure passed, the result would be the esta•
blishment of military tribunals, similar to France.—
(Cheers.) But the Right Hon Bart. (Sir R. Peel),
while in office, had carried the measure. There
was not a regular organized body of these
men with their colonels, superintendents, and God knew
what, dressed in their blue liveries, and it would be a
matter of great surprise to him if they did not shortly
dress themselves in half regimentals, putting on the little
knot upon their shoulders.—(Laughter.) But the Right
Hon. Gentleman, he believed, had left them without arms,
and the present Gov.-se-2 -ses .5.3 +++cLl ,Issas LA
retl tat, aa.,s, „epeeed the formation of such a body, haul put
and pistols into their hands, and he had no doubt
they would shortly give thee. carbines, and by and by
they would become as fine a corps of gensdarme as
ever made their appearance in France. He wished to
know how the Noble Lord could look at the history of
this country and contemplate the present state of things.
Why the excellency of this country, as it was considered
over all the world, was, that the sheriff's wand and the
constable's staff could at any moment command obe-
dience to the law ; and how the Noble Lord opposite
could endure the thought of snaking laws which would
prevent the return of such a state of things again, per-
fectly astonished him. He with others was accused of
wishing to destroy the Constitution of the country ; he
denied the charge ; he warred against a departure fr ttn it.
He wanted to see England as it was when he was born.
He wished to leave it as good as he found it; he had
little hope of being able to do so, but if he did fail, it
would not be his fault. Blackstone, when speaking upon
the, Constitution, had said the army ought to consist
of the people. and have the same spirit of the people ;
nothint could be more mischievous than to in ,ke the
army distinct from the people. The main object, how-
ever, of the Government of this country of late had been,
to make the army separate from the people, to make
them have separate interests and separate views. Black-
stone procee led to state, that the army should always
consist of a natural body—not Hanoveri ens.—(Laughter.)
Ile said the soldiers should live intermixed with the
people; no separate camp—no barracks—no haled for-
tresses ought to be allowed, but the soldier and the
citizen ought to be more intimately connected with
each other.—(Hear, hear.) In what a state, then, had
the p.-ople of this country fallen—they had fallen, and
they would fall further yet. It was true some of the
commentators on Blackstone had expressed a different
opinion as to the na ure of the army, and its connection
with the peep e; but if Blackstone could only rise from
the dead, he (Mr. Cobett) did not know whether he
would be most astonished at the commentator, at the state
of the soldiery, or at seeing his great-grandson vote in
favour of the Irish coercive measure.—(Hear, hear.)
Most people liked the place where they %sere born better
than any where else; but if it were put to hint to choose
whether be would manacle Ireland or the southern divi-
sion of Surrey, he declared before God that he would
rather put the manacles on his own native place, because
nothing could be more degrading or improper than to have
the power of inflicting au act of oppression, and to throw
that oppression upon strangers and upon the. defenceless,
rather than upon one's self, or upon that quarter
where it would be likely to meet with effectual resistance.
It was not manly in the Ministers not to propose the ex-
tension of this measure to all England as well as Ireland.
If they did not choose to apply it to all England, why not
proscribe Cornwall,—why not declare some part of
th t county of Kent to be in a state of insur-
rection, and uposi this monstrous precedent pro•
teed with acts of coercion throughout this country?
Gentlemen might be assured, that if the Ministers suc-
ceeded in carrying this coercive measure into effect in
Ireland, the manacles would, before much loss of time,
be placed on the hands of the people of this country. He
might be asked if he believed the gentry of this country
would consent to have such a measure of tyranny esta-
blished here, and in his conscience he believed they would.
He believed they would consent to have police stations
established in their several villages, that the police might
serve them as game-keepers, to oppress the poor, and to
make them submit to their imperious and oppressive con-
duct. The gentry of the country were, therefore, to be
looked well to, and it became the people to make use of
every means in their power to prevent the consummation
of tyranny and oppression, in the first instance in
Ireland, and immediately afterwards amongst ourselves.
There were news from Ireland—almost from every part of
Ireland, to
show that this measure was unnecessary.
At one assizes it ayes supposed that 70 persons would be
convicted—that 50 had been, and it was supposed 70
would he convicted, and all quietly, and without resist
mice. ,But even if part of the country were in such a
state of dis.urbance, that the ordinary laws were
not sufficient to quell it, was the present Bill the
remedy to be resorted to, by which one part of the
country in a state of quiet was to be treated in the same
w uy as that part which was disturbed ? Wnat did Gene-
t it Washington do—a man who had been so lauded by a
Noble Lord and a Right Hon. Gentleman opposite? When
all the back part of P nsisyllvania, inctuding a track of
country extending 200 miles, was in a state of insurrection,
on account of the Excise laws, when great bodies of people
joined together tumultuously, burnt down the Excise-1
office, and endangered life and property ;—did he cal
for the suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act? No
such thing. Did be call for greater powers to try
people by courtsmartial? No such thing. What I
did he do ? Why he issued a proclamation, telling them

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to obey the law, or Le would en, i'the pmrers •
wre intrusted to him. They refer to obey the la
and then be issued another proclarna. a, telling
he bad no standing army, but he would
to put down the rebellion. Above 10,1
joined him on their own horses, and in lees ti
he quelled the rebellion. Several persons
one of whom was sentenced to die, but General Wash-
ingtoa pardoned him. Why, if there were disturbances in
Ireland, could not the Government do as Gen. Washington
did, without establishing courtsmartial, who were to be
empowered to try persons and transport them at will ?
This was hie (Mr. Cobbett's) objection ; if they once
established courtsmartial in Ireland, they would soon be
established in England. Let but resistance break out any
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way would the Ministers carry on the Government, but
he trusted for only a short time. His opinion was, that
the Bill would net succeed—he was satisfied it would
not.—(Hear.) It might be attempted, but he knew
it would not succeed N.iture would reach the people
enough, without knowing any tiling of history—without
seeking for a precedent to resist the law. He ai•ked, what
would be the consequence of the passing of the
Rill? Why, the people would resist, The Hon.
Gentlemen on the Treasury bench would not deny that
there was a right of resistance. If there had been no
right of resistance, indeed the present King could not have
been on the throne. By an Act passed in the 14th year
of the reign of Charles 11. it was enacted that, in no Case
whatsoever should the subject have a right to resist the
King, but in the Ist of William 111. that Act was repealed.
Therefore the law was left as before, and therefore in some
cases the people had a right to take up arms to resist the
King—that was the law. Well, then, what were those
cases ? That was the question. Had the country reached
that point ? Judge Blackstone laid it down that the period
had arrived when the main principles e Government were
at rived at when oppression was open, violent, unequi-
vocal, and when the courts of justice were inadequate to
afford resistance, then they had a right to resist hy arms.
The Noble Lord, the Member for Devonshire, the Right
lion. Secretary for Ireland, and the Hon. and Learned
Member for Leeds, told them that the Americans had a
right to resist, that their resistance led to a glorieue re-
volution, that those who accomplished it were patriots
arid heroes to be admired and applauded. Now what hid
made them resist? They resisted, because the King had
At tempted to take from them trial by jury. That was one
lawful ground of their resistance. Another ground was
that the King had had mock trials of his soldiers who had
committed murders among the people, and that they had
been acquitted; and the next ground was that the King
had affected to make the military superior to toe civil
power. He had affected to do it; but in the present case
his Majesty's Ministers had not affected merely, but had
actually done it. These were the grounds of resistance that
justified the American revolution. The Hon. Member
then went on at some length to show the application of
those circumstances to the present case, and to contend
that the movements in Ireland amounted only to a resist-
ance to tithes. The state of Church. property there was
must woeful. The Church, in fact, belonged, with its irate
toense revenues, to the aristocracy, and this Bill was in-
t inded, not for the purpose of securing and applying it to
the purposes of religion—that bad no more to do with it
than the waves of the sea and the sharks therein—hut for
the purpose of protecting the interests of the aristocracy.
The Hon. Alember then went on to show the evils arising
from non-residency in Ireland. A person perceiving
prebendary of Durham, named Townsend, and rector of
Northallerton, a clever man, the author of several works,
wrote a book, in which he accused the aristocracy, the
grasping aristocracy, and some of them by name too. of a
design to take to themselves the remains of the plunder of
the Church left by their ancestors at the Reformation. He
accused them of being the worthy successors of their fore-
fathers, and pointed out clearly enough how the Bishops
oil-alit to have power to take from them a part of what
they had got. This gentleman proposed the plan of a
Bill for the reformation of the Church, not like those of the
Noble Lord opposite, which were for the spoliation of the
Church, and quite shocking to a true Church of England
man, like himself.—(Laughter.) This gentleman, be a iid,
proposed something equitable, and he begged to direct the
attention of Hon. Metnbers to it, in order that they might
see that he and those who fought with him were not
without advocates amongst the fire-shovel gentlemen
themselves.—(A laugh.) Under the plan proposed by
this gentleman, pluralities and non-residence, which hail

nobility, would be abolished. He said that pluralities and
lion-residence were produced by the nobility, because thee.
left livinge with only ten pounds a year, although they drew
from them three, four, and five hundred per annum,
Ile was now speaking of England, not of much abused and
treated Ireland. The people did not know of chase
things, for when they did, they might depend upon it
justice would be done. This book is entitled, " A
P;an for Abolishing Pluralities and Namreeidence in the
Church of England."—(Cries of " Question, question.")
This was the question —(No, no, no.) He would come,
then, to the question, which was, to show the right of
resistance which would arise out of this measure. If this
Bill were far more inconsistent with the Constitution-_.
far more tyrannical than the conduct of the apostates and
plunderers of Henry the Eighth—was far worse than what
J tines 11. was most falsely accused of—was ten thousand
times worse than what George the Third was accused
attempting to do towards America—what right had the
Government to expect that the people of England wo.ulti
submit to it? for he said again that base was the Engliehe
man who would not step as tar to save Ireland as his own
country. He had frequently called the measure tyrannical,
and he should not hesitate to call those tyrant,' who care
vied it into effect ? Tyrant was a harsh word, and was
nut liked ; but what was a tyrant ? He was sure every,
uric would say that they had a right to resist tyranny, and,
to destroy tyrants if they found them to he so. They had ae
much right to destroy tyrants as John hail to order Jezebel,
to be destroyed. It was true that the tyrants of the pre-
sent day did not want to lick the blood of their victims—.
all the tyrants of the present day wanted was to take from
the people the fruits of their labour, their money, and
their goods, and it the people would let hint do that, they
would have no desire to destroy them. No, they would say,
" Let them live, and we will enjoy the truits of their in-
dustry." Noe., he would sty, that the man that woul I
not resist such tyranny as that deserved to be a slave. Foe
it was said you cannot resist, and with that he shoold con-
clude.—(Laughter, and Hear, hear.) The H',u-e appeared
to express so much satisfaction at what he had said, that
he did not think he should conclude yet —(A laugh.) It
was, however, said that resistance would be vain, as such
an army was kept up as would put that out of the question.
But they had got a paper money—let them continue to
pay in gold, and as long as they did so, the people would
be a match fur them, and so they were as long as the
Savings Bulks continued. But they could make piper a
legal tender, and they could rob the Saving. Banks of
half the deposits--this they could do by order of the
Pi ivy Council, not by Act of Parliament. All that how..
ever would not do. He did not wish to call Ministers
tyrants, because he believed they did not wish to see the
country in such a desperate state, but they were tyrc,nte.
from necessity. How did the taxes work? He ka,:w sa
instance of a man who had an annuity of 501. seyear left to;
him-elf and his heirs, and in the particulars of an account
which lie made out, it appeared that he pail in the two
fist years more than his annuity in taxes. That system of
taxation could not be upheld. He implored the people to
make common cause with their brethren in Ireland, and to
do all they could to prevent the Bill from becoming the
law of the land.
Mr.T. ATTWOOD wished to state, that he intes.teked tcs
move as an amendment, "That all further proaatedings in
this Bill be suspended, until the remedial meseures which
had been mentioned by his Majesty's Ministers be first
carried into a law.”—(Hear.) The day would never
come when the Irish Disturbances Bill, as it at present
stood, could pass into a law. His Majesty's Ministeris
said that they would resign if it were rejected. 111
would
of that measure;i bu
touch rtlrettlatsuchsbout evldbeen witleit chonsopthce of
the rejection that
thrash,
before hint, he could not consent to deliver over the Irieh
nation to the dominion of the military. Diti his Mee
jasty's Ministers mean first to bring the country to a eteto
of resistance in consequence of their me isures, and then to
resign in favour of their predecessors ? He had another
amendment to move, which he would take an oppore
tunity of doing while the Bill was in Committee—namely,
That all the power granted to the Government he that
Act be limited to the counties composing the province of
Leinster." The Right Hon. Secretary fur Ireland had
s,id that the disturbances were confined exclusively to the
province of Leinster, with very little exeeption. He,
therefore, as a friend to the integrity of the k.ngilom, and
an enemy to the repeal of the Union, thought it most de.
',Table not to exasperate the people of Ireland by making
an Act general as to them, on account of the c 1 sine-
hances in one district. That was his reason for giving no-
tice of the amendment.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee on tl e
Irish Disturbances Bill.
Inc, CHAIRMAN then read the fourthclause; upru
which—
Mr. LAMBERT rose and moved an amendtn, nt, which
ws, inaudiale in the gallery, but which we under-toot to
be the effect that "that !Li should not be made us: Ca