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day. He was afraid that next year he must propose a
more liberal arrangement.
Mr. GLADSTONE said he had done the Hon. Mem-
ber an injustice ; he was not aware the Hon Member
bad taken off the guinea a day.
After a few words from Mr. KERSHAW and Mr.
JIENLEY,
Mr. OSBORNE thought that if 500/. a year was con-
sidered sufficient for the new inspectors, it was also suf-
ficient for the old ones.
After a few words from Capt. HARRIS,
Capt. PECHELL wished to know the rule under
'which the poor-law circulars were issued ? Unless the
Non. Member (Mr. Buller) answered his question he
should divide the House on the subject of the vote.
After a few words from Col. SIBTHORP,
Mr. C. BULLER, in reply to the question of the Hon.
Member, stated that the circulars which were issued by
the Poor law Commissioners, in order to spread a cer-
tain amount of information, were entrusted to Mr.
)(night alone, because several booksellers could not be
employed for the purpose ; but he denied that there was
any monopoly practised ; they could be easily obtained
upon application.
Captain PECHELL had heard it said that Mr. Knight
did not distribute the circulars with impartiality to the
trade.
Lord G. BENTINCK did not think the estimate an
excessive .one when the heavy duties of the inspectors
were considered. Ho knew a case of one gentleman
who, in 9 years, had travelled 99,607 miles ; out of that
0 years, 31 were clearly spent on the road ; and this at
an expense to himself of more than 7,7001.
Mr. WYLD begged to call attention to the expense of
schoolmasters and schoolmistresses, and the system of
education as connected with poor-law union houses,
'which he considered to be very imperfect. He hoped
that the Chief Commissioner wouid pay some attention
to the subject.
After a few words from Mr. GROGAN and Sir W. So-
)IERVILLE, theivote was agreed to.
On the question being put that :30,208/. be voted to
complete the sum required for the expenses of the Mint,
Dr. BOWRING begged to ask his Hon. Friend the
Raster of the Mint what was the present state of the
erlecimareoinage ?--(Laughter.)
Mr. SHEIL said that a Commission was now pending,
the result of whose inciairies would be, he had no doubt,
saving of 10,000/. annum. He anticipated that
the report of the Commission would be rendered within
Ave weeks.
Mr. GLADSTONE conceived that the Commission
weight have been spared, for that the Right Hon. the
3/water might, in the leisure which his office afforded
/dm, have prosecuted with equal effect all the necessary
inquiries.
Mr. MUNTZ thought, on the contrary, that the ap-
rpointment of the Commission had become a very neces-
sary thing, the Mint establishment being notorious as
the grossest job in existence.
Sir J. TYRRELL pointed out that there already was
in print an enormous Blue-book containing the result of
the inquiries of a Select Committee of the House into the
Siebject. He doubted much whether the expensive in-
quiries of the Commissioners would add materially to
the information already within the reach of the House.
As to the moneyers, their original appointment dated so
far back that their tenure of office lay beyond the reach
of the crown, or, at all events, the compensat ion to
which they would be entitled for the loss of office would
be enormous.
• Mr. LABOUCHERE expressed his testimony to the
high personal character of the officers of the Mint.
Mr. BRIGHT said that mere personal character was
no ground on which people should receive thousands a
year of the public money for doing next to nothing.
The Vice-President of the Board of Trade and the
Master of the Mint had at present nothing to do, or
next to nothing; and he thought it would be well if
these offices were consolidated,' so that the very little to
do of each office might, united, form a little more to do,
and the public be saved a full 4,0001. a year.
Lord J. RUSSELL vindicated the utility of the two
offices referred to.
Mr. SFIEIL said that it was proposed by the Com-
mittee that the office of Master of the Mint should be
much more generally efficient than it was at present.
The vote was then agreed to.
The sum of 10,6701., to defray the expenses of the
Railway Commission, was the next vote proposed.
Mr.. WADDINGTON rose, and entered into some
details, for the purpose of showing that the managers of
railway companies were much better qualified to judge
of the measures necessary to ensure the safety of pas-
sengers than any Government superintendent or Railway
Commission. He objected to the system of Government
control over railways as now enforced.
Mr. BANKES moved that the vote be reduced by the
suss of 4,0261.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said he had done his best, in
conjunction with his colleagues, to reduce the expense of
the Railway Board as much as possible, and that not in
consequence of any speeches made by the Hon. Members
opposite. Thu actual reduction effected was 3,0001.; the
ultimate reduction would be upwards of 5,0001.
Mr. GLADSTONE said he had been one of those
who had sought to persuade the House to rescind their
vote for a Railway Commission. He could not, how.
ever, support his Honourable Friend's motion ,on the
present occasion because, although he disapproved
of the commission, he felt that even a false step
could not always be retraced without interrup-
tion to public business and inconvenience to individual
interests. He was still, however, of opinion that the
better course would have been to leave all those matters
from the beginning in the hands of the Board of Trade.
With respect to another point, he had heard that the
Great Western Railway Company had raised their
charges for goods and passengers enormously above the
maximum of the Act of Parliament; and he wished to
know whether Government had taken any steps to see
the law and the public rights of property observed.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said that the advance of fares
by the Great Western Company had not escaped his
notice. He had referred the matter to the law-officers
of the Crown, and they had reported that the company
were in the wrong; but, on the other hand, the company
had consulted Sir F. Kelly, and his opinion was in direct
opposition to that of the Crown lawyers. He had not as
yet resorted to the extreme measure or stopping the com-
pany's Bills now in progress through Parliament, but had
referred the whole matterto the Solicitor for the Treasury.
That gentleman had only sent in his report that morn-
ing, and as soon as he (Mr. Labouchere) had read it he
would not hesitate to exercise those powers with which
the law had entrusted him to compel the Great
Western Company to comply with the provisions of the
Act of Parliament.
Colonel SIBTHORP wished to know what was to be
done respecting the first commissioner's salary.
Mr. LABOUCHERE explained that the office had
been aboliSbed, that the duty would be henceforth per-
formed by the Board of Trade, and that consequently
the 2,0001. a year would no longer figure in the es-
timates.
After a few observations from Captain HARRIS and
Mr. WADDINGTON,
The vote was agreed to.
14,0231. 18s. expenses of the public records.
12.514/. 12s. inspectors of factories.
1,755/. 6s. 4d. salaries of officers (Scotland).
The above votes were agreed to without discussion.
6,4641. 17s. sd. officers of the Lord-Lieutenant of Ire-
land's household.
Dr. BOWRING objected to the sum of 1,5741. 16s. 2d.
for Queen's Plates.
Mr. OSBORNE defended the vote, as calculated to
encourage the breed of horses in Ireland.
Dr. 131) WRING objected to the grants for horse racing
included in this vote. He thought the public money
might be much better (employed.
Mr. BRIGHT thought it better to encourage the breed
of Irishmen than Irish horses.
Colonel DUNNE and Sir J. TYRRELL supported the
grant.
The vote was ultimately agreed to, as were the fol-
lowing:--
22,6001. for salaries of Chief Secretary of Ireland, and
officers in the Lord-Lieutenant's office.
2,500/. for Paymaster of Civil Services in Ireland.
26,8001. to complete the vote for the Board of Public
Works in Ireland.
" On the grant of 31,0001., to complete the vote for Fo-
reign and other Secret Services,
Col. SIBTHORP objected to granting 31,000/. a year
for secret service money without investigation, believing,
t as he did, that a portion of it was expended in assisting
Government supporters to obtain their positions in Par-
liament. Government might say it was necessary to have
spies in foreign countries, but setting aside the policy of
employing such disreputable persons, how was it that
the same sum was necessary every year ? He thought
the Chancellor of the Exchequer should be required to
make oath that no part of this money was employed for
sinister purposes.—(A laugh.)
The vote was agreed to.
152,3621. to complete the vote for stationery, printing,
and binding.
Mr. OSBORNE thought a great saving might be
made in the printing. He understood Mr. Hansard was
making 50 per cent. by the printing of the House, while
other printers would do the work for a profit of 10 per
cent. He also thought the printing of reports was car-
ried to too great an extent. There were many docu-
ments of which a much larger number was printed than
was required. He thought the Government might make
a selection of what should be printed.
Mr. J. PARKER said it would be difficult to make
such a selection. He hoped, however, to have the as- '
liitance of the Printing Committee to effect a reduction
in the expense if possible.
Mr. BRIGHT believed the expense was added to by
the one House requiring documents printed by order of
He
the other. thought it might be well to have such a
number of documents printed in the first instance as
would be sufficient for the Members of both Houses.
The vote, after a short conversation, was agreed to,
the Chairman reported progress, and obtained leave to
t seemsiseemto.mor- (this day), at twelve o'clock.
nits House atlrouwrned at Twenty-five minutes past One

ERRATUM.—In
t°ull(l* leading article yester-
day, the Austrian Slavic population is
mentioned as being 29,000,000:and united with the
00
Russian Poles as only making
5,,000—th0 former
0000
figures should have been 19,000,
FORGED BANK OT EENGLANDNoTEs.—Yesterday
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complaint was made to the police by several artier
residing at Ironton Old Town, of forged Bank of Lilt
g
erinlind notes having been passed among them. The
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ic:";i4 'e:3.4llAlieidry sterday at the office, pelahay.-street, West-
CiA -!-'•• I', bz-). tit r. W. Wyse in the chair, but in consequence
.157:111A-1----,OE:tnci-I attendance of a sufficient number of share-
- I , holde constitute a meeting, it was adjourned sine die.
Al . II Sir ames Bathurst and family, and Capt. Walker,
biff London yesterday morning, by the General Steam
Navigation. Company's mail steam-ship Giraffe, for Rot-
terdam, en route to the Rhine.

ir_l" ER MAJESTY'S THEATRE
Ildlle. JENNY LIND.

The Nobility, Gentry, Subscribers to the Opera, and the Public are
respectfully informed that a GRAND EXTRA NIGHT will take
place on SATURDAY EVENING, Aug 19, when Madne. JENNY
LIND will appear in one of her favourite characters.

With various novelties in the Ballet Department, combining the
talents of Mdlle. Carlotta Grisi, Mdlle. Carolina Rosati, Mdlle. M.
Taglioni, Mdlle. Cerito, &c. &c.

Applications for Boies, StalLs, and Tickets, to be made at the
Box-office of the Theatre.

R OB E R T H O U D I N
ST. JAMES'S THEATRE.

By Particular Desire.
GRAND EXTRA AND FINAL REPitESENTATIONS.
In compliance with numerous applications, and owing t i the dis-
appointment experienced by many parties in not procuring places at
his last representation, ROBERT HOUDIN will
THIS EVENING,
TO-MORROW EVENING, and
SATURDAY EVENING,
give his Final Performances, previous to his departure for Man-
chester.

Boxes and Stalls may be secured at Mr. Mitchell's Royal Library,
33, Old Bond-street.

HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE.
Mdlle. JENNY LIND.
Last Night but Three of the Season.
The Nobility, Patrons to the Opera, and the Public are respectfully
Wormed, that a Grand EXTRA NIGHT will take place THIS
EVENING, Aug. 17, when Mdlle. JENNY LIND will appear as
LUCIA, in Donizetti's Opera of
LUCIA DI LAMMERMOOR.
Lucia, Mdlle. Jenny Lind ; Egarde, Signor Gardoni ; Bidebent,
Signor Bouche ; and Enrico, Signor Coletti.
To conclude with Selections from the admired Ballet of ONDINE,
by Mdlle. Cerito, Mdlle. Petit, and Mdlle. C. Rosati ; M. Dor, M.
Perrot, and M. St. Leon.
The Erse List is suspended, the public Press excepted.
Pit Tickets may be obtained as usual at the Box-office of the
Theatre, price 10s. 6d. each, where applications for Boxes, Pit Stalls,
and Tickets are to be made.
Doors open at half-past Seven, and commence at Eight o'clock.

THEATRE ROYAL, HAYMARKET.
Under the Management of Mr. B. Webster. solo Lessee.
THIS EVENING.

Will be performed THE MYSTERIOUS STRANGER. The Mys-
terious Stranger, Madame Celeste ; Crequet, Mr. Wright ; Checore,
Mr. 0. Smith ; Mdlle. de Nantelle, Miss E. Harding ; Madeline,
Miss E. Chaplin.
To be followed by the Burlesque, entitled TAMING A TARTAR.
Count Cracovieninski, Mr. Worrell ; Kickerwhiski, Mr. Paul Bed-
ford ; Mazourki, Mr. Wright ; Ivan, Mr. Manyard ; Monsieur Cott-
pee, Mr. C. J. Smith ; Strelenski, Mr. Cullenford ; Countess Craco-
vieninski, Miss Woolgar Mazourke, Madame Celeste.
To concinde with the original tarce, called HOW TO SETTLE
ACCOUNTS WITH YOUR LAUNDRESS. Whittington Widgetts,
Mr. Wright; Jack Brown, Mr. Manyard ; Squibb, Mr. Redmond
Ryan; Mary White, Miss Woolgar ; Mdlle. Cherry Bounce, Miss
E tuna Harding.

ROYAL SURREY THEATRE.
Under the direction of Mr. Kerschner.
Positively the Last Week of Mrs. FITZWILLIAM and Mr. BUCK-
STONE, as they have to appear in Manchester on Monday next.
THIS EVENING
Will be performed THE FLOWERS OF THE FOREST, in which
Mrs. Fitzwilliam and Mr. Buckstone will perform.
After which, a Comic Drama, called A ROUGH DIAMOND, in
which Mrs. Fitzwilllam and Mr. Buckstone will perform.
To conclude Rith THE ROVER'S BRIDE.
_ _ _ . .