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London, England, 1846-06-20 00:00:00

GROUP 11.

The Select Committee appointed to consider the merits of the Bills
comprised In this group re-assembled at the usual hour this morning ;
Lard Morpeth In the chair.
WEST CORNWALL.

The consideration of this case was resumed. Evidence was ad-
duced on behalf of the opposing landholders to the line. The object of
this evidence, it would seem, was to show that Mr. Brunel had not
secured the best line the country would afford.
The Committee was occupied with the opposition until its rising at
four o'clock.

GROUP XIII.
This Con.mlttee met at 12 o'clock, Sir Wm. Clay in the chair.
GLASGOW AND itzi.rawr inatow.

The clauses of this Bid were proceeded with.
An arguntent of some length took place on a clause providing that
any company entering Ayr from Dalmellington should be allowed
free access to the Glasgow and Belfast Union—Counsel for the
Ayrshire and Galloway contending that this company should be
named specially in the clause, and that certain rates for the use of
the former hue should be specified, while Counsel on the other side
maintained that the clause should be general and open to all rail-
ways, and that the rates should be left for consideration of another
Parliament, or to the Board of Trade.
The room was then cleared, and, after being out for upwards of an
hour, the parties were called In.
The CILAIRMAN intimated that the Committee had proposed a
clause to meet the case in point, generally providing for the admis-
sion of any railway coming from Dalmellington, which the Legisla-
ture might in future sanction, at certain rates of toll to be fixed by
arbitration. _ _ .

Tha other clause.; of the Bill were agreed to, and the Chairman
instructed to report the Bill, with the amendments, to the /Louse.

CALEDONIAN EXTENSION.

The CHAIRMAN intimated that he had consulted the Speaker
respecting the point raised yesterday, and the Speaker concurred in
the opinion of the Committee, that parties petitioning against a
scheme had still it locus staAdi, though the promoters of it might de-
cide Lo nrithdraya a portion from the consideration of the Committee.
btMvnow near font*. o'clock the Committee adjourned till
liondnyvat one o'doek. •

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Mr. J. Houghton, farming about a.ri e arn
Sunninghill, Berks, about seven miles itenaTheeftra.at, Itroom-han.
Great Western. He said sheep did not go In ritZktn,..-
---tton of the
Weyhi/I and other fairs to the north, their 'course'bArVes Item
to west and vizever.o. Driving, Sheep was preferable to°2*a.t
them by railway, and if the railway were made, he did net
would be used for their transmission. He did not use thnia, tit
'Western for this purpose on account of his objection to sending them
by railway. Driving did not injure them, in fact. Sand obtained
from the Isle ofNight, he considered, would not be conveyed to'the
north by' the proposed line as the least expensive mode would be by
Gloucester:
TheCusaamax inquired of the witness, if a gentleman carrying on
'business in. the Potteries had stated that he should save several
Itmadreds in the course of a year by having sand trammittect to him
from the Isle of Wight by the lit whether he should con-
sider him a madman or a lunatic?
The witness said if he had stated this, he should certainly consider
him out.of his senses.

Mr. HATIIESTON protested against the chairman instituting com-
parisons between the testimony of the witness in his examination in
chief, and asked when his Learned Friend on the other side would
have an opportunity of cross-examining him as to his testimony. He
was sure no member of the Committee would become an advocate of
the line sitting there, as they did, in their judicial capacity.
- The CitaitsMax said, without any wrangling,
he would state why
he Instituted such a comparison between the testimony of the wit-
ness and Of Mr. Addington, tho gentleman to whom he referred.
;.rhat gentleman was actually engaged in business in the
-Potteries, and he distinctly stated that the line would
-he of the utmost benefit to him as he should save
several hnintreds in the course of the year by the proposed
Manchester and Southampton line—the witness, who was not en-
gaged in the trade, stated diametrically the reverse. Ile considered
then that a person not angagel in the trade, but filing the avoca-
lion of a farmer, was not a proper witness to give testimony on this
imint. if they brought a person from the Potteries, who made a
similar state neat, they would be bound to listen him.

Mr. AtnEitTost said the witness was one whom the opponents
of the line, in their judgment, considered a fit person to give testi-
mony before the Committee.
The examination of the witness was then continued, and he reite-
rated all he had stated, and generally disapproved of the line, as not
-`repaired by the wants of the district.

in llis cross-examination by Mr. Sergeant WRANGFIAII, he stated
that he did not know the cost of getting sand to the north of the
'Jersey-. The cost of sending a ton of sand to Birmingham from
Southampton would be 10s. a ton
Mr. Sergeant Wasphaasst called his attention to the fact that Mr.
Addington had stated that the cost of getting a ten of sand to the
north was 30s. It was unlikely that they would use the present
route if the line were made. and the charge was only 10s. a ton in-
stead of 30s.

Witness—lf Mr. Allday, a cattle dealer, or any person, stated
that be and his friends drove 60,000 sheep to Gloucester, and sent
them to the north by the existing railway in the course of a year, he
should not believe him. He was certain he would not make such a
statement befbre men of business in the locality.
In, his cross-examination by Mr. ALEXANDIE, he stated that he
Savo evidence last year before the Oxford, Worcester, and Wolver-
hampton Committee, to the effect that direct railway communication
from Droitwich to the south, for the conveyance of salt for agricul-
tarot purposes, would be advantageous. He was of that opinion still.

Mr. W. Griffiths, residing in the Isle of Wight, produced a speci-
men of the sand raised there for the purpose of being converted into
glass, and stated that the conveyance of the commodity by ships was
preferable to a railway. A vessel carried from 100 to 110 tons.
In his cross-examination, he stated that several days were occupied
in loading a vessel—sometimes several weeks—and that it would be
of advantage to be able to carry it away in small quantities.
Mr. Dangerfield, coach-master at Cheltenham, formerly ran
coaches from Cheltenham to Southampton, but discontinued them as
they were unprofitable ; but attributed this in a great measure to
the opening of the existing railway ; if, however, he were going to
Southampton, h 3 should use the most direct line. The inhabitants
of Cheltenham were migratory, and went frequently to Southampton
and the Isle of Wight.
Mr. B. Palmer, lessee of the Luggershall-gate, on the road between
Southampton and Cheltenham, said the tolls amounted to 200 t. a
year, but the traffic from the neighbouring fairs did not come that
way, so that that gate was not a fair criterion. The large tolls were
not taken at that gate, and some thon.and persons going north did
not come through it.
The Committee then adjourned till one o'clock on Monday.