The Sun.
London, England, 1846-07-29 00:00:00

ARMY ESTIMATES.

Captain LAYARD, seeing the Secretary at War in his
place, was desirous of knowing when it was his intention to
bring forward the army estimates?
Mr. FOX MA OLE said if nothing unforseen occurred, it
was his intention to bring th,,m on next Monday.
Mr. GEORGE BANKES gave notice that on the third
reading of the Poor-law Removal Bill he should propose to add
a clause.

Mr: STAFFORD O'BRIEN seeing the President of the
Board of Trade in his place, wished to ask him whether he
should continue to devote as much attention to agricultural
statistic's in office as he did out?—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. T. M. GIBSON said, in answer to the question of the
Hon. Member behind him, he beggedto say that he had reason to
belieite from pipers he had seen at the Board of Trade that the
subject of agriculture had undergone considerable attention in
that department, and so far as himself was concerned he should
be most happy to.crntinue his atentionto this subj,ct.
COLONIAL LAND SALES.

Mr. DIVETT wishe:l to ask the Under Secretary for the
Colonies wh-ther it was or was not the intention of the
Colonial Office to .anetion the reoolation made on the 3d day
of March last, by the Governor of South Australia, respew'ng
future land sale, in that. colony, which, accor.iing to the la 4
report of the Colonisation Commissioners, would seem to have
been drawn up under the direction of Lord Stanley, and in
contravention of the decision of this House upon the Land Bill
introducNl he orlor of that Noble Lord ?

Mr. HAWES was unders'ood to say that dispatches having
rc feience to the subject had not yet arrived at the Coltintal
Office, and he iniunt not inform the Hon- urable Gentle-
man what would be done (aril they arrived.
Mr. HOPE sat,,, he might be irregular, but he felt inclined
to m .ke one or two ob-ervations on the question which had
been asked; and first, on the terms in which she notice had
been given. lie found no fault with the first part of
that notice, bu when it prnee(ded. " which, accon ink to the
last report oft he Colonisation Comm i sioners, viould seem o have
been drawn up under the direeion of Lord Stanley, and in
-contravention o' the-decision of this House upon the Land
Bill introduced by that Noble Lord." Now this, he thougnt,
was simply a speech put into the notices, and A speech with-
out an oppe•tunitt of answering. He submitted that this was
a most imp, orer exercise of the privilege of giving notice.
But he had to find fault with the question in the substance of
it, for it was not. founded in fact.

Mr. DI VETT begged rni.rely to say that whether he had
acted discreetly or not, the question, in fact, was founded
strictly in fact.

THE MILITIA.

Mr. ACLIONRY wished to put a question to the Right
Hon. the Seeretiry at War. He had not, indeed, given notice
in the usual way, but as there was a great deal of anxiety
prevailing in the country on the subject, and as he knew that
many Honourable Members in that House were not
aware that a Bill was on the table of the House
for the purpose •of suspending the ballot for Militia
till October, in the year 1847 ; he wished to ask that Right
Hon. Gentleman i it were the intention cf the Government
to proceed with that Bill ?

Mr. FOX MA ULE sai i that he found a proposition trade
by his predecessors with reference to this subject, but, consi-
dering the late period of the session, and the great importance
of the question, the Government were of opinion that the
preferable system would be to renew the Bill (as had been done
for the last thirte.n or fourteen years) for another year.
FLOGGING IN THE ARMY.

Mr. B. ESCOTT gave notice that, on Tuesday next, he
would move for a return to be laid before the ..louse of the
floggings which had been inflicted in the army from the year
1840 to the present time ; the place where the regiment in
which such punishment took place was stationed ; the number
of Tastes inflicted, and the consequences that followed ;
whether if,fl:eted by farriers, drummers, or so forth; and also
-copies of the stpgrims' mit,utes, and whether the trials had
taken place with closed doors.

SAVIVGS' BANKS-COMMISSIONERS OF
NATIONAL DEBT.

Mr. HUME moved for an account of the number of indivi-
dual depositors and of charitable institutions and friendly so-
cieties depoiting their funds in savings' banks, and of the sums
deposited, divided into the usual classes, on the 20th day of
November, 1845. Account of the amount of principal money
received from, and of interest credited to, and of principal and
interest money paid to the trustees of savings' banks, distin-
guishing Great Britain and Ireland, by the National Debt
Commissioners, from the 6th day of August, 1817, to the
20th day of May, 1846 ; of the amount of money, prin-
cipal and interest, due to the trustees by the Commii-
sionerson the 20,h day of May, 1846; of the securities held
by the Commissioners on the '2oth day of May, 1846, and of
the value of those securities at the prices of that day (stating
such prices), to provide the amount due by the C.immi,rsioners
to the trustees 0,1 that day, for principal and interest. Account
of the aggregate amount of interest paid and ere-li'ed to the
trustees of savings' b inks ( distingui.hiog Great Britain and
Ireland) by the Commissioners, and of the aggregate tun-n:0
of interest or dividends receiveu by and due to ine Commi—
sioners on the stocks, funds, and Exch,tqiier-bil;s h
by them on aecrtunt of the trustees, from the 6 h day
of August, 1817, to the 20th day of May,
1846 inclusive; and stating also the difference in amount be-
tween the amounts so paid and credited and received up to
May 20, 1846. Account, stating in detail, the changes which
have been made in the Bank Annuities and Exchequer-bills
held by the National atbt Commissioners, on accost of the
trustees of savings banks, under the authority of the Acts 9 Geo ,
IV. c. 92, and 3 Win. IV. c. 14 ; showing, in separate co-
lumns, the dates, description, and extent of each of such
changes, and the rates at which the changes were Effected. from
May '2O, 1844, to July 5, 1846 (all in continuation of Parlia-
inentary Paper, NO. 45n, of Session 1844).
Mr. HORSMAN wi,hed to give notice that on Friday
next he would ask the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of
State for the Home Department, if it was his intention to call
the attentien of the Government to the report of a Lords' Com-
mittee on railways, and whether it was their intention to
adopt the suggestion contained in that report ?
THE ADJOURNED DEBATE.

On the motion that the order of the day for resuming the
adjourned debate be read,
• Mr. PHILIP MILES said that he could assure the House
that when he moved the adjournment of the debate last night,
it was not with a view of protracting the discussion of the
question at this late period of the session. It was because he
thought that under the circumstances a fair division could not
be taken upon it, that he wished to adjourn it, and he knew
that it was for the interest of all the parties that the adjourn-
ment should take place. He assured the Noble Lord that it
was not his intention to offer any useless opposition to this Bill,
because he did not think it right unnecessarily to protract the
business of the House. He could not admit that this measure was
to confer a great benefit upon the country, as the Noble Lord
had stated, and it was because he considered that this measure
would do precisely the reverse; because he considered that tha
measure would give great encouragement and stimulus to the
slave trade, notwithstanding all that had been said against it,
that he was prepared to give his support to -the resolutions
moved by his Noble Friend the Member for King's Lynn. He
confessed that he was astonished last night to hear the Noble
Lord the Member for Liverpool—that Noble Lord who moved
the celebrated resolution in 1841—now consenting to the pro•
posals of her Majesty's Government. He must say that he
was not prepared to hear him give the reasons for the vote
which he was induced to give, after he had said that
he protested streigly against the admission of foreign sugar.
He certainly was not prepared to hear that Noble Lord come
forward in support of the proposition of the Noble Lord the
Member for London.--(Hear, hear.) Neither was he pre-
pared to hear the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, certainly in a speech of great ability, tell the
House that he was rejoiced to be able from the source of the
slave-grown sugar, to receive a large increase to the revenue of
the country. The discussion last night turned upon the state
of the West India colonies, and it was because he was
particularly interested in them, and because he wished to
express his opinions as to their condition, that he
was unwilling that the House should go to a division
on the question last night, before he laid before them what he
knew concerning their condition, and what effect this measure
would have upon them. From all that he could learn from
practical people on this subject, from all that he knew himself
on the question, he must say that he thought the effect of this
measure would be to throw a vast number of estates out of
cultivation.—( Hear, hear.) All those estates which were of a
barren soil, and which had not all the advantages of shipping,
would be thrown out of cultivation. He would take
for an instance the Island of Jamaica. In that island there were,
he believed, about 400 estates now in cultivation ; and he wa•
assured by a gentleman conversant with the subject, that of
thole 150 or 200 would be thrown out of cultivation by this
measure. Many of the estates in that island had been lately
thrown out of cultivation, and it was a lament able fact, but it
was nevertheless true, that in consequence of the want of pro-
tection which ought to have been shown to the proprietors of
estates in that island, the people were in a most wretched con-
dition. The Noble Lord, the -Member for London, in the
opening speech which he made on his question, said that the
s; stem of protection was a vicious one, but his (Air. Miles)
answer to that question was that the e•mdition of the We.at
Indies was in a wretched state at this moment, and
the reason that they were so was, because of the
casket of the Lzecutive Government. Ho wigied to

lay before the House some particulars with respect to some
es ates in Jamaica. The iiitinunt of sugar produced in the
estates on that island hart greatly decreased during the last few
years in consequence of the extreme droeseht, and the want of
protection which had been denied to them by tee Government.
The estimate for ti.e present year was not less than 800 tons of
sugar. Let them take another case, in which an estate, thai
before the emancipation of the negroes did not produce
100 hogsheads of sugar, now from the number of
estates which that measure had thrown out of
cultivation, and the consequent great supply of labour
notwithstanding the abolition of slavery, produced 150 hogs-
heads per annum. Though the soil was of an inferior
character, if they had an ample supply of labour it
would be made three times as valuable as it was
before the passing of the Act of Emancipation. Again,
if they took the island of Barbed°, s. According
to returns which had been placed before the House, it
was stated that it had increased its crops since the abolition of
slavery, and that wa 'es had risen. The wages were the same
as in Jernaiea, with this differenve—that instead of "paying
a fair day's wages for a fair day's work," the la-
boerers receive.' fer four hours' labour daily the
same as was paid in Jamaica for seven or eight. There
were ample reasons to show that if an adequate supply of
labour was given, these estates would do sufficiently well.
He thought that this would justify him in stating
that which had been said by a gentleman well ac-
quainted with the West Indian colonies, and had
been quoted by the Noble Lord the Member for the
city of London—that the West India planters were in the
hands of the negroes, instead of the negroes being in the
hands of the planters.—. ( Hear, hear.) Such was the opinion
of a disinterested man, and one who lad the most extensive
experience of the colonies; and that opinion was corroborated
by the governors of the different islands. He thought he
did not say too much, in affirming that the fault of the
colonies not being in so prosperous a condition as they
might have been lay not with the planters but with the
Government. Give them a supply of labour, and there
would be no danger of their estates being uncultivated. He was
sorry to hear the Noble Lord say that he would not allow any
importarion of labourers from Africa, unless they came from
places at which the British flag was flying. He thought there
ought to be full liberty for labourers to come from
any part, under such guarantee as to personal liberty which
the Givernment should think necessary. In Jamaica there
was an estate on which there were thirty-two negroce,
who tilled the most important situations, and had risen to
their present position by their energy and industry. They
were declared to be an intelligent and active body of men, and
they filled the most important situations for carrying
on the various processes on the estate. It was only
recently that they had obtained any labour, and
what they desired was time to allow it to come into ope-
ration. Had not the West Indies suffered from a
very severe drought, the crop would have increased
in a greater proportion than in any former year,
•by reason of that labour. It was really a very hard case, be-
cause they had been unfortunate this year, slave labour should
be allowed to come into competition with them. But
the benefits which the N,ble Lord promised to them
did not come up to their expectation. He has
told us that molasses and sugar cannot be used in breweries,
because the excise have an objection to it. If reforms are to
be carried out on the principle of free trade, they
ought to adapt the reforms to that principle, and
not their reforms to the excise. He could see no
reason why they should impose this tax upon the colonies—
it was not consistent with a spirit of justice or equity.
He thought that he could apply to the iires.•nt state of the
coutory he opinion of Lord Metcalfe, who e,eid that the Go-
vernment were in the bands of the Excise, and not the Ex-
cise in the hands of the Government. He did not think
that the Excise duties should be suffered to remain
in their present, condition. He thought the duties
should be equalised and levied after the spirits
were made, the distillers would then have a protection of Bd.
per gallon. He hoped that at a future time the Noble Lord
at the head of the Government would turn his attention to
the subject and place the duties upon an equality. It was his
opinion that emancipation had fully born, out the expectations
of the parties. ;le haul visited Louisana and Cuba, and it
was hit delibera'e opining that frees labour could compete .wirls
sla\iteleb ur. His firm belief was that the present mea-ore
if paesed, would have the effect of thr wing estates out of cul-
tivation, and that it would also give a stimulus to the slave
tret ; and if this country encouraged the growth of slave-
grewn sugar, with what face could they r quest foreign natio,s
io join with them in putting a stop to the edinue 'raffle in elaves ?
If the cultivation of sugar were to he increased by 50,00(1 tons,
according to the estinia,e of the Noble Lord at the head of
the Governmen,, there mu-t, of necessity, be an absolute
inere•use et the a- ount of slavery. He remembered having
bear ?, s ,nie short time nen, the Right Hon Gentleman, the
Member for Eainburgh. de-cribing the misery which resubed
from she esteteece of slavery in America. but, he could assure
-he Right Hnin. Ger.tleman that the horrors he had de-
pict,4 fell far short of the misery att'endant upon the
African slave trade. lie had once seen a cargo of slaves the (ley
after they were landed. a,,d certainly no considerations of peliey
should ever induces him to etienurtge such an abominable system.
Tcey were told that I he, people of this c iuntry required cheap
sugar, and he con- idered that their desire would he sup slied if
there was a considerable redu .tion this year it the price of free-
labeur sugar—such a reduction he was ready to agree to by
suisperting a reduction of the existing duties, and
altbou„h he die not speak for the whole West Indi in
interest, he was sure they would also consent to a re-
ductior; and he believed the plameti ns of West. India
and of the colonies would yield this country an ample -ripply
of free-labour sugar. The Chancellor of the Exotic-
quer said, in his speech last night, that the Government
wished to let in a quantity of sugar, anti to derive a large re-
venue ;rem the inerea-ed supply. Now, he was surprised
to hear the minister of a free couatry like
this, boast_ of the revenue which would be derived
by encouraging the slave trade, for if the measure propounded
by the Government seas passed, slavery would be increased
two-fold; but of this he was certain, that if they
wished to put a stop to the slavi trade—if they
wished to obtain a character for honour and humanity, they
must show the world that free was cheaper than slave labour.
If they did not do this they would belie the free trade prin-
ciples which they had ennciated, and show that whilst they
boasted of free trade with all the world, they were propagat-
ing the slave trade.
Upwards of 20 Members rose when the Hon. Gentleman re-
sumed his seat, but they gave way to
Mr. P. BORTHWICK, who spoke from the opposition
benches, and close to Sir James Graham, said he now had to
say one word with respect to the speech of the Right Hon.
Baronet the Member for Taraworth, addressed to the House
last night. In the course of this session he had felt it his duty
to oppose that Right Hon. Baronet, and he rejoiced at teat
moment that that opposition had been successful ; but he did
not think that any one in or out of that House considered Best
he could speak of that Right Hon. Baronet in any other terms
than those of respect, and he truAed he should not, that night,
use any language with reference to him which was inconsistent
with the high position which he held in that House, and in the
councils of her Majesty; but he trusted, notwithstanding his
ab-ence from his place at that moment, it might not be held
irrelevent to the question before the House. He never in his
life listened to a speech—( Here Sir Robert Peel entered the
Heuse.) He was glad the Right Hon. Baronet had come
into the Huitue.—( Roars of laughter)—as he was -ore he
would admit, although he had-accused him of speaki g harshly
(I him in his absence, that he had said sweet things of him in
his presence. He never, in the course of his life, did hear a
speech which, if adopted in that House, and acted on by its
individual Members, was so directly calculated to lower the
House in the estimation of the country. fhe question before
the Hou-e was not one of finance, although it involved finance
in its operations. The Right lion. Baronet the Member for
Tamworth, looking at the question as one in no smell degree
involving their rights, yet declared his intention to vote
(however reluctantly) for the measure introduced by the
Noble Lord at the head of the Government—anti why? Be-
cause, six weeks had not yet elapsed since the formation of the
Government.—( Hear, hear.) He should like to know what
period must expire before an Hon. Member could dare to re-
cord his honest convictions, or to vwe egaiestethe Gevern•
ment, in accord nee with the dictates of his conscience?
The Right Hon. learoeet. asked, who were to f irm the next
Government ? Was that a fir matter fur the Ittuse to ques-
tion ? They were ri t sent up to that Hou eto resolve ques•
tions of expediency, but to retires( nt those who re•uroed
them. in right and justice. on ,tich question: as itt he sub.
mitred by the Govemine, t. lie was •ure that if that House
were—in :veigh,n2 in triers so itniortatit as :hat whieh then
occupied their consider ation—to take into act mint what
Ministry would follow the present. or whether the present
Minister was to be confirmed in his power—if that House
To k such a course of condue on any question, it w,oild adopt
a mode most fatal to the interes•s of the country. The purpose
of the Right Hon. Baronet' speech was tralis,areot ; it was
as clear as the noon-clay. Ir was to throw uhfficubies in the
way of the formation of any new Government ; n, throw diffi-
culties in the way of any man, who might encounter the Oat ery
cry of this country ; and to which cry the Right Hon. Baronet
hail attempted to lend his name—a name than which none was
higher in opposition to the principle some ten or fifteen years ego.
He should have gone with him, and felt it his duty, as an hum-
ble follower of his, whatever scruples he might hare about
the amount of protection which he asked, whatever difference
of opinion in detail he might feel, he should have at mice
candidly given his vote in favour of the N,,ble Lord, because
he held it to I.e his duty to his party leader to sacrifice all
questions of detail on which his party might agree. But this
was no question of detail or finance. The Noble Lord's reso-
lution, which he had moved as an amendment to the motion
of the Noble Lord at the head of the Government, involved
two things. First, and of least importance, the commercial
question; and secondly, and most important, the question of
slavery. The House would admit that in the course taken
by the Noble Lord, the Member for Lynn (Lord G. Bentinck)
the most earnest and by far the most successful was that part
part of his speech in which he represented to the House the
horrors of the slave-trade, in which he asserted that, as a
British legislator, he could never consent to weigh gold
against the blood of his fellow creature; and that the argument
of the Noble Lord at the head of the Government was no
better than that of the sheep-stealer who argued that, as he was
to be hanged, he might as well be hanged for a sheep as a
lamb. He (Mr. Borthwick) asked the indulgence cf the
House whilst he entered for a few moments into the considera-
tion of this question, and an examination of the grounds on
which it stood. He thought the House would agree with him
that the lamb for which the Noble Lord was wilting to be
hanged looked so very like a sheep that it would require all
the ingenuity of the most consummate debater to distinguish
between them. The Noble Lord had said that he could not
bear to weigh gold against tee blood of a fellow creature.
That was the popular statement, and it was not more popular
than it was just.—(Hear, hear.) He would not consent,
therefore, with the Noble Lord to do precisely what he did
with regard to measuring the value of the negroes' blood with
a standard of gold. The Noble Lord had said, that
as long as the duty was at 21s. or 235. per cent.
on free grown sugar, he was willing to barter
the blood of a negro for the price of forty shilling%
The Noble Lord had stated that his ground of opposition
to
the measure was that it proposed to remove the differential
duties, and as long as they were preserved he had no objection
to the continuance of slavery. The Noble Lard was distinctly
and clearly bound, at all hazards, and against all odds to for-
bid, upon any terms whatsoever, the introduction into this
country. of any production of slave labour. He (Mr.
Borthwick) contended that it was impossible to conceive a po-
sition for a great country more wretchedly humiliating than
this—that it should assert that some particular practice, which
was contrary to justice and the rights of humanity, should not
be put down ; and they would make no sacrafice for the pur-
pose of removing it ; and its abhorrence of slavery
should consist in countenancing a duty of 40s. per
cast. on the sugar introduced into their markets.—( Hear.)
It appeared from the speech of the Noble Lord the Member for
Lynn, that what was a deadly sin at 265. per cwt. was a cardinal
virtue at 635. It reminded him of a lady who went o her
confessor for absolution. She confessed to hissing erred three
times, but her ghostly adviser said he had no absolution for that
number of offences, but that if she would commit the offence
three times more, so as to make six times, he could grant her
absolution. Oa that principle were they consider ng the pee_
sent question. A great deal had been said about raising sugar
by the blood of the negro in Brazil and
Cuba, but the Noble
Lord the Alember for Lynn stated they would be able to get a
supply of 1011,000 tons from the banks of the Ganges. But he
wished to know whether there was one eled,ent in slavery in
the Brazils that did not exist in the East Indies? One great
element of slavery was, a man having property in his fellow
man, and this he affirmed existed to as great an extent on the
'peaks of the Gauges as io either the Brazils or Cuba.

,
Would they use sugar which bad been cultivated with es.
the hl!:
of men who had been bought?—(A laugh from Sir I.a!0.
Graham.) He hewn to think he was a little dull of aper
_atilt,
sion in this matter, and that he was not acquainted with .all
means of buying and selling. If the Hon. Gentleman en
"?e:
that all the men on the banks of the Ganges are not bought
soli, he would at once assert that all the men in Java 1;0
ewes were not bought and sold; so the argument wits_eoe,
worth a laugh, and if it was a joke, it was so bad, that h!rocd
not laugh at Jt• But if he had any other meaning, beaters"
wise to revert to ii, for the) could not say who was bousd t,e
sold. H i himself was ne;.°."
withold h s support from the 17:_i
to be led by any party, not woo
red
that the Right Hon. Baronet
ported to support the Government, haci
(bsleiri....nr.d.peeAln),dwhheer
Ise
opoorr;
made a epee heir.)
calcu'ated to injure them than anything elseeetilleeerwebre
India is steeped to the very lips in slavery, and (I."'s slavery
force had said that the dwelling-place and the home the joie§
was in India, and that for centuries before the West , if,her6
were discovered slavery had been cradled and nurture" k ;V.
Slavery formed part of the religion of Ind:a. He wou'd sta jea!'
Noble Lord the member for Lynn whether he believe were
those harrowing reports which he had read to the flou'Fd end
not considerably exaggerated by the writer of those halloos
revolting narratives? He did not vindicate the slave to be
God forbid that he should. He should deserve,. did;
struck to death on the floor on which he stood if "`„ea,
but let them look to the southern states of North iltisd-sle
and they would find slavery equally as horrid sun,ite
testable as that denounced by the Noble Lord oPren 00
( He then read limn a book published on the subject an 2.,.: ors
of the cruelty to which not only male but female OW: eve'
subjected, and that the grossest immorality was ere°,,e-elise
amongst them in order to propagate their race.) TB° ii lee'
also contained an anecdote which he would relate to thes fuser
A gentleman at one of the watering-places became enslll:perb
of a young female slave, whom he married, and carte Wu
hies to the free states, where he educated her after the Woes
of an English gentlewoman. One morning an elderly aof
waited upon him, and demanded the woman on the gr°°:,
'bgt
her being his slave. He said she was worth a 1,000 dollar* i(1.
P .
that he should have her for 9110 dollars, which the husbeud et it
He mentioned the circumstance to his wife, who said s es'
not only my master, but my father." This was the state crier
very which they were going to encourage by a al"' oeis"
duty. He then referred to other Das >ages of the bookrt,go/1
stated that the slaves were punished by being fastened sr. eft! '
to a stake, so that they could not move, and flogged d the,
spiked instrument, which penetrated into the flesh, a° tbe '
they in this position received hundreds of lashes eu lessi
naked backs. Now he (Mr. Borthwick) believed theta see
of these statements were exaggerated, but he belie! pit;
that equal cruelty was inflicted in Cuba and Brazil asiPscerP
sissippi as d Alabama. It was always, however, in the Prd ssier
the sieve to purchase his freedom as soon as he eon iesll
sufficient money to effect the purchase. The slave °le ire
chat.ge his master, and be removed, provided he were-IWO
fed, or prevented from going to church. That state ettmie ts
existed in Cuba and Brazils, where there were from 2'7, ley'
3,000 free negroes. In Brazils no distinction was Ina— off
tween the men of colour, but in South America tbele.shif
not allowed to be near the whites, nor even to 11' 01,
God in the same pew as the white Mat** iol el,
the grounds he had stated he must oppose the Illetpee
the-Noble Lord the Member for Lynn. Unless he coul eel
the House that the statements he had made about Jtrearst I
Manilla, and the southern states of North ft,,t° leo
were false, he bad no right whla'tever to artes€,S, 3
( Mr. Borthwick) to vote for the distinction Der thy
slave-grown and free grown sugar. The people °, eleitica,
country were not permitted to grow tobacco, but rue'. es
forced, for financial purposes, to pay a duty oefles(°°,
per cent. on tobacco that was slave-grown.--tt OP'
hear.) Their was scarcely a tropical product bud cell
was produced by slaves driven by the whip alLtatb,
plied by the slave trade. He was sorry the Noble ee"esse;
Member for Lynn should have lent himself to such f,'
that now raised, which he believed was only goteAterej
hustings' purposes against the ensuing general e isoolir
If they 4ave themselves the patience to examine tire7o, lee
find that their arguments and their position were as falsruel tolii,
humanity was genuine and real. But it was pai";. sor!,,
those peaces:es played off upon the people of England, the ,''rf
mere purpose 1). getting up a j)arty cry. If they re'A to CO' e'r
portanre of setting the slave free. they were bound loam
out that principle to the fullest extent. They must?: is she
use slave grown tobacco, nor use any cif the ',smut'''. 'O, e
procuring or manufacturing of which slave-labour wasc'estb,`,
they must forego the us of slave•produced luxurieeh sorlef.'t
they were mi ere', vegetable, or animal. So 10111°,d to rat
quo tint.' of slavery, on welch the Noble. Lord seem= 'd
his opposition. He (Mr. Borthwick) begged to tell by Ivo,
while he trusted to the excitement of popular sruPeorse,,el
respect to the slavery in sugar—a most honourable dto ~.„
doubt 4.n the sr of the Noble Lord —he was also bol;utheoli),
on the people of this country to make wee no longef° prities
art•cles of dales manufacture. Henceforth, on the
cesercel,
laid dawn by the Noble Lord, we must not use slestsee%fise
cotton, tobacco. &c. We must no longer make use °'
Pr
the diamonds, the rubies. or the other al tide.% in the P del e
of which chars were employed. He would no long; i„e?0.0
the House on the question of slavery. While he eoff-re
_00!
..
with the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn upon the". 0,90;
of slavery, he agreed with him most cordially unon tho.it.a. ''' 14
of protection. He, in conjunction with the Noble n.B Isee,,
of opinion that the East and West Indian colonies Sc 70,
,11', 9
entitled to much more protection than they for 'is.
j iyed. He was of opinion that it was ' outer ,j,
benefit of the producer and consumer of• estelloe
all parts that further . protection should be nsib!erje'
to our colonists. ( Hear, hear.) Whoever was resrer, e,o,
the evils of slavery, he believed that the Indian p!alt.ir coj,
free from blame. Wtaen the local legislatures or. tliooili
,1',,,
vies attempted to obtain Acts of Parliament for these by f,.'ir,
tenance and abolition of the slave trade, they were te,,,,etsoo
Legislatute of this country, that the slave-trade vit"uPessioo be,
to the exchequer of this country, and that the q _of t
humanity should be put back, and that the nuestiljots4ti'd
abolition of the slave trade should be deferred. 13,ut'neseribes1
standing all that, the planters of Jamaica Nadu s 7 sties 0
60,0001 in the course of twelve years for the emasieWeisersoi
17,000 negroes. Notwithstanding their efforts to aruedsset I,
the condition of the slaves, in consequence of the ear,ed ell.
the British Legislature their wishes had not been carne
vier
He felt sure that the Noble Lord would be doi"ig,La geec;:r,gie:l
to the moral and physical condition of there` Pe "ayad be,ruttv
an importation of free labour—( Hear, bear, iti,ne wh:cll, is
that when he went into Committee on the resole .
had 'pro, osed, he would not abide by the figures rks? 11.i:rnedu!it!
them.—( Hear, hear.) He trusted that a differf-ne/L1 10.sest
of 9s. 3d. would be conti..ued in favour
colon'sts. He trusted that the Voble Lord would al",
well before he consenteisto remove all protection from i
_,,,,
ducers of sugar. He was sure that free labour was lessefire'?
much cheaper commodity than slave labour, ana;;"' leoe
raging free labour they would undoubtedly lessen, '" l,a-
degree, the present extent of slavery, and teach a dit,
of our Vtirlsteeeo
of humanity to the world, an .1 free themselves fro ,to
cube which would otherwise attach to them, to std thi
The Marquis of GRANBY said he was anxious otests be
the House the ground on which be should give his Ybeeiratesee
present occasion, and he would do so very shortly', jos Oa be
believed that the House was prepared to go to a dives °, eiele'teif
question that night.—(Hear, h ar. ) At the Ilatt"'weilfesrt
could not but regret the late period of the session at
~e,..( 0
great question hart been brought forward for disettsei°;oer ~. fof
heat)—and he regretted that fact in a particular 03,,secesber Se
hearing the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet the lose! the
Tamworth on the previous evening_( Hear, hear)
*oor of
thought it was a speech that certainly was in fa' ,$) Pot°
amendment which his (the Marquis of Graelb9;etieoss
Friend had moved. It was a speech against anY4Setie Se
the present Government ; but the Right Hon.
pa
stated, that in consequence of the present state of p" aeretse,
was enabled to give effect to that speech, and vote °prose,
ante with it. At the same time, he wished to sat't so roe,
vote which he (the Marquis of Granby) was alrube esee'
was not in ern:sequence of any hostile feeling which , es s'''''/
tamed towards the present. Government, but ratbe`geser.e,e're
quenee of the dislike which he had to the present "! 000700
( Hear, hear.) He was obliged to vote against this oto ieJ
upon two grounds— upon the ground of proteelis bell; 01
colonists. and also upon the ground that be (Crie'odi
this treasure would increase she slave trades.-- eroo,te
" Hear, hear.") He wou d consider those tsvoccope,e
together, because by so doing he thought be shoal ° terror)
of the time '.f the House—he sttould consider them tog red' et(
cause he thought vt that they ,re intimately coo" 1„,/ for le
could nut he well separeted Protection was neces7j,e-terl
colonists in coreequenee of the legislation of that flu ee of, jb°,
gielation which was directed against the continususoiere
slave trede—( Hear, hear, ) lie should like to know,,, 16:40
constituents of this country—whst the nations of ;'O3", 10,
weeder think of their conduct, if they, who at the ti pis" ell
the interests of humeriity and the interests of our co °edifice
peered to be in opp ei,ion--.--the, who said that irt thelro of
the interests of humanity must be considered before, Pto
-- ( Hear. hear )—and that the interests of Piote_rj,
smilers of this c ,entry were against that roo'o'd
end that they must pay a tax of 20t v" ll°'
ofi
to maintain the interests of humanity—(Hear'for eS
—that the same. . parties should now will,' °f o'o
and propose that that versa" slavery, for the suppreesio"..°oebise
so much had been done, should now ;se encouraged all„;o01/
possible: for that would, in tact. be the result of the Prvitteettejt
of the Noble Lord at the head of her Majesty's Gover°,jito,ek
( Hear, hear.) He would ask them whether the e°tl;ol.o',/
of this country anti the nations of the world would tiotejor;ie
their conduct to lie not merely inconsistent, but most uussl;,ell
( Hear, hear.) For the purpose of making sugar °for° jb°
penny a pound cheater, they proposed that all the lay, °ll 0 ejo
had been consumed for the extinction of slavery, ", ‘,Sgerertt)f
20,000,000/. tax, should be set at nought. The only' el'oeo
which he had heard, and which he though eerre'
sloe' Ole f
of the name, was that because we admitted 0 se t
W p
coffee, slave-grown copper, and other articles, we r, ei
fore bound in consistency to admit slave-grown sogaieee°oo°,
he did think that there was a vast difference biee-g° ere
production of those articles and the production of tail ote're'
sugar. But that he thought was well known to the ',hat s', 0
he would not trouble the House with dwelling el" `, tlic for
ment, but he wt.uld take the opportunity of refereirt'neier tea
the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman the 1!)e- 01 itit, tV?
Tamworth, delivered last year on the question of slave
,e th';aoP
manufacture of sugar.— (Hear.) Supposing it vvere tr4as' -11`;
slavery employed in the manufacture of cotton, Bt-ce,'ear's done
in extent to that employed in the manufacture of 5-„eliee eP
wcornotnegndiend still that tinhsattanthcee
%ayregwumereentto,
dthoatwbreocangusien
alieetheifir tbot
i 0;
the most extraordinary argument that was ever muds step oo'
House.—( Hear.) They had often heard that the "'"eoli' -er
wrong direction was very bad, but he had never, id descoo
, heard that because we had taken that step we sbte,ordell°
the whole flight.--( Hear, hear.) Surely the N°l7ll to
st it'
not prepared to maintain such an argument as stele- o,',
people of this country would, however, most certainly d blot e
The argument of the Noble Lord as to a man 13,0: i" ;Di/
honest neighbour he also held to be equally wrluta Ofreor's
was the strangest argument which be (the Marqu'ser,ble e oh;
had ever heard. Was that the conduct which the eivise
~,,e.
at the head of the Government was prepared to la,',''tope'e the
most moral and philanthropic country on the earth oeviecdeiri
He considered that the Noble Lord had failed t°,,, by stoge:
House that they would not facilitate the slavestraa beers ore'
ting slave-grown sugar.—(Hear, hear.) It ha', lied rile
that all their endeavours to repress the slayeetrateet eees
scije,
and that they therefore ought to give up flirt: weigbideresa
but such an argument he was convinced bad 710 Outer Ird
any 'Wernher in that House.—( Hear, hear.) Le Seto eel
that after the statement of the Noble Lord tiTh ilia /vest'
Lynn, which set forth the increased supply wblegiaosge Os
obtain from the East and West Indies, by pro Per ,ectioll• oeree
it became their duty to give a further trial to pe?ea, 010'1, tb,
s 1 et
Hon. Member for Evesham had insinuated tulaseer! dy 0
actuated by a desire to get up a cry againttsdol.eredeirsttost:etenerlikoci
country ;he was of opinion that a feeling ell emu" is
the country against slavery, but he begged
an intention which was most incorrectly attribineeeeet - t"'s
Mr. OSWALD considered that some se:tre;berinfo 0
question was most earnestly desired, and, rem be belb. 4
lee eection had been withdrawn from agrieu away 'cleat to
opinion that they should be prepared w do
ri°t l'ul:Vsi '' •
tection ee every kind , and, therefore, he could
_er.) no to 0!
amendment or the Noble Lord.—( Hear, he_ eistlioolle, ate ,
prepared, after the country had given twenteeeemoelnotee
tingutsh slavery, that they should further. tistaust'eless end` sinbow,
rate of two millions sterling annually n
. she state tbe
to affect the fiscal arranement of ether
And it was quite a mistake to imagine;hato
1.0 ..--...At
toteltrwle°: bY lte;el
hat 7•0400017'
loaft
aioinsi oo
most
theirt d
i,,ti
,ogwuni.s—h
e(d
aclbear,,oobaetaero. )f
the slave, bs.leaY_y_e".., 9 t
eta, 0
had done had riot mitigated the evils
_retnee2st took nage
and he was therefore of opition that tbyilircussoorbui.---
other way to banish olavoq than then of '

•

,iialr' HUME s tfished 1 to correct ft mistake which the Iron.
ember ( Mr, Idi .rib wick i ha I lal,en into with r• and to the
the
esbieh eame O'rom Beenel. There was not one eleve in
th whole of Rene ;0,1 who icid'a c, mpis int to reek • ; ;he courts
Fwere open to hi no ''t to'. 0 tie a ould be readily received ; and
ols eisollundtrtye state
th4'
the admission of slave-crown sugar into
Wool( r *not have the smallest eff et in giving an
lioitet" t° s'aver's-:in the colonies. He was sorry that the
abject,
Lord was rot in his place to he r his opinion upon that
n. as he felt s. are that the Noble Lord spoke from a sincere
co vtetion that the
osin. th Isl have the effect in-
prOposed policy woo . of
aril e slave t• rade. Sir F. Buxteso said, all the exertions they
V Made to put t' own the slave-trade, on the coast of Africa,
toY.setoereion had ft. /led, anti had only aggravated the evil which
i ed. es
Was 0 n that lecooet, therefore, he (Mr. Hume)
ro wishedlttlfZ; qtultat'rrtet tri: oval of th e squadron of twenty-eight ships
ilbsestehl wasteful
Led, il hell"' re, es he d'd, that that was an n;e-
exlle".uliture. The question was asked by
slaver 21id they despair, then. of putting an end to
ly i Her( At .le. they
replied that they did not, provided
wit that tee Is Hume)
wet e taken for that purpose.
at
he
said
. . ' I steps
• bring their
slaves fr
vetted •ele' Arwri,.as, -tie:, Cuba and Braz 1 continue to
0100 • but let te se it. AV:IS shown that that could pot be pre-
`Nest India planters be perrebted to do so
114:14::dseetairri ate the slaves landed upon the British colonies
*red freemen.—(Laughter.) In the early part
lt:tt.llleeoiliZnivt 'session he moved for a number of orders of
lat:intheseor, de to the admission of free labour to the colonies,
era bad actually prevented the admission • f
sexpeers; Thy effect of these orders was just the same as if an at ~,,,-: Pr°olt ition had been mede for the exclusion of labour.
lion had!,ttlY w ithin the last eiehteen months that any relaxa-
long a ta,l6•lt Place in thesjiirders ; and if they had occurred
slhiej;°' l°eY would not. now have to regret the consequences
no
manrest'ehed from thee want of sufficient labour. There was
tally, t w o• read tilft evidence of Mr. Deacon Hume care-
nettle wi ".0 could fail to see that the milentes were not in a
Selves'a- emiditi"°, ane that if the colonies had free trade theme
ioti I`oo
tleaYs hthaedyneti 'ii.tg
I; pro-
world, to fear from the withdrawal of pro-
'sOuld in that ease be able to compete with
i•..esr.;3 Hume in stating those opinions, de-
.„,tt'''l.ed. tlate'avecdr much" as any man, and yet he
li n people and the British Legislatur.e
eat it Neno,
RI be prejudicial to the interests of the colonies if
'ltel? ceronved all protection at once, without enabling the
oo°,lfliees to procure an adequate supply of customers. A Noble
wi ad" had said that th slave-trade had been suppressed by the
te -41
the& had e•
coasting off Africa. He (Mr. flume)
%gilt that o
; teat assertion was not correct, for if they sent
eoeterY sitlP there .1)•'•11 France and England could spare, they
Old not downw"•• t d The remedy he sug-
gestes
,_ put the slave-trade. e.
Vont' 'or this state of things eas to allow the West India
er er
lad „b„ • Meet the Cuba_and Brazil slave-master in Africa,
foesopio'io the latter purchased the negroes as slaves, let the
Islet,: 11"31 them as freemen. As long as there was the itn-
itow- ProEt connected with the trade, which it was well
eso„oon attended it, all their efforts for its suppression
eaeo—dst be unavaiiing. He thought they should act
. Principle in this as wed as in everything
IN, 'V carry out in practice the remedy he suggested.
put ao'xight Hon. Baronet was of opinion that nothing would
lab, wis slavery but free labour, why did they not get free
lihielc alad.put slavery down? Let them. withdraw Their
fitheeeitr, fleetscost
600.:000wereused to put down the practice.
41R1 they „ Per annum, leti them expend one-half of that sum,
gas _ . ould succee• a . des,troving slavery altogether.
4,„ . Anxious to see the question settled once for all—he was
oft
to see the people relieved from the annua.l annoyance
he debate, and on that ground he would give his supoorteto.
the Nome ' a
wl . •Lord on the question before the !louse. Many p 0
r e Might suppose that he was not willing to relieve the con-
the/10111rfrom the tax on sugar ; on the contrary, he hoped to see
time when they would have a duty of 10s. per cent., which
,tea, the quantities that would be consumed un er the re-
unctionwith would amply repay the sacrifice which had been made
of the higher rate of duty.
Sir J. R. REID said, that the circumstances in which
the colonies were placed and the state of affairs at home
would render this measure, if it were carried, one of complete
rein. That very day he knew that the first effects of the pro-
posed measures were felt, for is consequence of the turn which
the debate took the last evening, at the meeting of some of the
most respectable traders connected with the colonies, the fiat
had gone forth to stop the cultivation of some of the estates.
All that was required by those connected with the trade was
Liu- play, and up, less that were granted to them it would be
flair
for them to attempt to cultivate their estates in corn-
Petition with those on which sugar could be grown, and ad-
mitted into this country at a cheaper rate.
tolltMr. BERN AL ~, I. AL wished that the question could
.be de-
ively settled. He did net care for the period which was
lee, for an assurance that, the question was to be finally put
at rest
e \yen was all that was required, and he thought that every
otoo Indian could aceremmodate himself to the eircum-
-Wes"' which must ensue under the new revolutions.
N4°le tarbadoes hai a large population with labour corn-
eesolt,velY
and Jamaica possessed an immense tract of
*not srY and a ver / limited population in proportion to its ex-
N., of "a- The circumstances of the West Indian Islands
he re the
d.ffer nt, and different measures of relief should
Posed, led to them. This must be done in whatever was pro-
ie7,ll.t° make those islands meet the altered circumstances
tooliesiche they would now be placed. With regard to the
as sh "t had been found that they were not so good labourers
edliose Africans. The former had certain religious notions
tor `l° Prevented then, frr taking such food as was necessary
bre,fodiat Physical exertions ; while the Africans had no such
r_ thecca as these. Looking at all the circumstancesAfrna
;"rs. the cue, they msut look to the coast of
'"e - supply .--i labour; and while .they sought for II • suPPly f ' i
rlthil rem tnae quarter, he quite agreed. that
tt'6ast :gent*, 'should be placed at various points on the
atee eel Mrtr.a to that nothing but fair measures
1.7,11 d. een.,, to. • d '471 b rers to go to the West India
s„ -slattl 'tint tit, in tn
carrying this arrangement of free
,wo shotrt submitted that twelve months' engagements, were
‘4lsted„ He thought the time ought to be ex ended, and
41411)ete Noble Lord at the head of the Government' would
1°1114,4 Point into his most serious consideration. Butw in
1 beltdieltAnt the doctrine of free trade in relation to the West
--‘t that 7 'rusted it would not be done in a one-sided man.nhelr,
of all it
,of
~ i 1,,,, Wreild he carried out to the fullest extent. 1' Chile
e
1,,,_,' eie-e-gr•r was to enter into competition with the produce
sowoilrlsr ountries, he hoped that other produce of the West
pie on ti2sdaszontld be admittedth into the markets of this coun-
troduce of the British Islands.
iltelo gsidered theermfusll"p application of free trade would-lead
&Yacht:ink t° Place Westa I)
India spirits on the same
"'kites.- as the spirits of the distillers of tb 111 "J• It
duty of 9s. ed. a gallon
caildbe was a hard case that a •the duty on Scotch
Chits w Plaeed OR West India rum, while .
..°od (snail t3ss 4,1,, and that on Irish whiskey but 2s Bd.
Ite„ part -;
,w 54 such system to be defended. The. colonies.
tWri--..e.passnicsu,me. Parcel of the British empire, and if this measure
hale Ite,.° defied any one who advocated free trade doe-
.ee 'hat intact such a difference in duty as that which
mdnetil"s'• stated Th • • •t be prepared to meet all these fiat tits, a • They enus
1 pit is, .Lod to carry out the principles of free trade to the
oliieProiso'slule extent. He called on thi se who possessed W
AY 4!erea;;,,ltY to prepare for the change. The m eet it
yk taeir '' energy and activity, and by a reductionust ofm price
tn:ey ,Gt.,!ipettnorlities endeavour to extend their markets,s
1,--" st -,,tiet avert the change. The tide of feeling wa
1-I°Pnb;c;%lY Set in in 'favour of free trade for them to
~,‘ had th 3' °Pposition they could offer to arrest its progress, us stated his own viewe on the subject, to which n
V hallself e
eat e °kited the attention of those who represented the
ohs iliaU interest• and he would sit down by thanking the
t'lleirvesioocristhe patience with which it had listened to his
rihg O(hE2 InI'sNISON said, if any Member entertained a feel-
Sate w•k•letility to the West Indian interests, the Hon. Gentle-
log Itlltit sm'e had just sat'down bad dene much to disarm him o
41g ee;so9itY ; and he hoped, for his own part, to avoid say-
'glees dice offensite. He would have been satisfied
.to have
'nein ee°° vote that. he was to give in support of the Govern-
lied • 'measure or; the speech ma 1 by his Noble Friend who
Govern-
tFad ittroeuee,l
iend the
haintn,eainnrd h e hideelivered by his Right Hon•
1 of tehsepeExechequer, but many points had
uaest stik'
Ste accred in the course of the debate, on which he wished to
toe nolloit_ent:bservations. He assured the Hon. Member that
ger th `l° ler forget that he had been one who gave his vote
lettree craaneipation of the slave ; as event which was_ the
It e of
eel)
r, great changes in this country.—( Hear,
/fish" nut, there was one thing which he
kt,t,,,,;` never to forget, and which he wished to press on the
eloi.mtion of the House ; and it was this—to tske careft
larehL
(11eeeteoent in the Wtost Indies should not prove a al u .n.
aidee-;,'; near.) A feeling which was excited in him by a cond
?f this °ll of the interests of humanity, of the n-gro race,
.a
ol- eeuntrYs As had been the ease with free-trade, year
tadsexte they had tried treaties and tariffs, yet, after a.ll, they
snrifrolinisters rising up and saying, that these treaties and
leading s were vain and inefficient, and that the country must, by
ths,
.the way, show through her example what the rest of
e nations ought to do. He said, then, what was true as to
op, ,
to---,-tradet was true in free-labour. There vrere two points
toortcsbeieohr he should address his observations—first, to the
Ate' conduct pursued by this country on the coast of
Bs -lea ; and second, to the course of conduct pursued towards
m'"e West India colonies of this country. Much had been said
mnir., the ereessof these dur;sig the present debate. The Right_
...,_4104. baronet R. Peel) saiti last night, that he had
"'jived at this conclusion—that the best armour against
81iiverY w the promotion of free-labour. That opinion was
bOpt a as e
it had appeared in the book published by the
to 4w one
el_ lerF„ i w Buxton, and it had been advocated in a letter
...ythe Noble Lord at the head of the Government to the
rvasury in 1839. In 1841, the Chancellor of the Exchequer
said the Pr. .1
se means
used to put down slavery rather
aggravated it. The commissioners, in their report from Sierra
Leone, said that the capture of vessels might have an eff ct on
the number of captives, but still the slave trade was on the
increase. A returnt moved for by the Hon. Member for
Showed
Montrose, he expenses of the expedition in 1843,
Riving ships of all ;;lasses, 58; of 945 tons; 8,454 men, at a
east of 575,4661.; and this sum would be increased by the
*Caries of extra officers engaged in the same object to about
C 410•000/. But all the, expenses of, the expedition would far
eleeed this amount. Yet their efforts it was
haaetknowledged
they were
wall hands were ineffectual, notwithstanding t
lt •
to ,° at a great expenditure of money and health.. In reference
its the course pursued towards the possessions of this country
ft ii-"° West Indies, he would just recall the attention of the
oat to the considerations taken up in a Committee which
th e the West India Colonies. That Committee was of opinion led
galeledi materials for immigration from Africa into the
':4 were considerable; that immigration would be of great
thhere-asoge to the negroes; and, ,hat under proper regulations,
Lie the-elild be no danger of a revival of the slavery trade.
tollrtoisse-e the West India interest had a right to come to that
Aft
I demand every passible assistance for the supp'y of
Able abour, Believing, as he did, that the efforts on the.
Year -(4onseasst had been .un-uccessful, he was not disposed this
PUtpo,:llPPort a vote of a certain am cunt. say bo,ooo/., for the
tr. -4alf Preventing immigration to the West Indies; but next
die 'night be disposed to sanction such a ceurse.
Went-- not know whether the opinion of. the House
could' with him in what he had said, but .he
•th -collet have any hesitation in asking his Bigot Hon. F. rien.d
Iltoals—sehle Lord at the head of the Government to give hie
NO" :avourable consideration to the question of supplying the
hillee with a euffiniency of free labourers.— ( Heatr, hheeari.n)
the
touscel JA, MES said he had not the good fortunttedevoelopin g
his
Plan w nen the Prime Minister made the Tee(
eon 11P°11 the important quesoon then beforethe House, in
busines; in
nr,,istilleuenee of having been detained upon I
10,1h,se, Place. but he had read the speech with great interest,
in,..' 11 id mune to the conclusion that the public generally. but
esssev"Pecially those who were interested or more immediately
atm :1;1 this subject, were much indebted to the Lord,
he was great obligation to the Noble Lord, for the attempt
to
Making to place the sugar eui ies upon a permanent.
t g, in place of having those annual discussions se Snell leadt
o eo
wt
India . Clash uncertainty, and so seriously injured the Wes
iwo s interest.—(Hear, hear.) But he did not think the plan
deetalletesl by the N Isle Lord was the best that could be
hear,) ter ea.rry ine out their free-trade principles.—( Hear.
145.0 seemed to him to he monstrous to continue a tax of
seg,ritor °wt., which was equal to I id. per lb., upon col"nial
2d, „, ,I,_d 21s. per cwt. upon foreign sugar, which was equal to
teskr-rbilos, and at the same time, and in the same eh
hear.,', )4t cheap sugar for the million.--(Cries of is hear,
find ''
He tfiotteht it was highly desirable that they should
Isk utele% for affording constant and increasing supplies of
-1-,Z..reis.. for the colonies, as well as a constant and increasing
thought, sugar sugar fur the population of this cow:try. That, he
meet, s' Illso a subject well worthy the attention of Govern,
were but It could riot be attained so long as these high duties
tegrai 4ntenaneed. If the colonies ought to be treated as in-
,
„that
justice of
of the mother country, he wished to know with
t,.„. they could tax sugar, coming at a large expense
- awe me west Indies, while they did not tai his corn. which
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