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DOCKS.

Dividend Amount
Name of Company. per of Paid. Price.
Annum. Share.
-- - - L.--
X 0. cl. £ c. d.
C .nimerclal • • - 70
East and West India 6l. pr cent. Stock. - 119
East Country - 21
L andel: ............. 5/. pr cent. Stock. - 100%
'AU° Bonds •••• • • -4/. per cent. - - -
SI. K atharine .• • • .... 5 per cent. Stock. - -
Ditto Boads •• • • - - ,
S naliampton • • ...... 1 2/. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 ' 22
chrra.2.s.
- ,Di-id nd
Names of
,-• per Price.
Companies. ....4 per Companies. d
..: Annum.
R Annum. v 2
--- - -
X X
Ashtn& Oldh 97 71. p c 110 Macclesfield . 100 V. 10s. -
Barnsley .• • • 160 121. 180 Neath -•• • • 100 201. 210
Irknk&Alarg 150 5/. 85 Oxford.. •• • • 100 20/. 200
Birmingham 35 4/. 783( Peak Forest. 78, 31. lOs 68
Coventry .. • • 100 251. 270 Regent's •• • • 331 I/. 4s. 183,f
l,erbv • • ... 100 61. G 3 Rochdale.. • • 85 4/. 54
Ellstrre&Chs 133, 41. 48 Somrset Coal 150; 71.105. 130
Ere a ash .• . I GOi 32/. - Do.Lk Fa St 121 61. p. c.
firandJunctn 1001 5/. 80 StffrA &Wore 140, 281. 275
Grand Surrey 1001 - 40 Shrewsbury. 1251 151. -
limn(' Union 100' 11. 10s. 213 Stourbridge.. 1451 20/. 285
Grantham ..1150, 121. - Severn andl
Kennt & Anil 391, 75. lid. 5U Wye Rail. j 26 11. Bs. 30
Leeds&Liyrplloo 341. 430 Warwick& 1 ,
Leicester ..• • 'l4O 101. 75 Birming. j 00 5/. 65
Leicstr &Nthl 83 4/. 36 Warwick&
-
1 1 46
:.oughborogh 142 70/. 530 Napton .3
Monmouthsh 100 81. 1 - Worestr &} 78 21. 39
Mntgemryshlloo 51. - Birming.
MeltnMwbry,loo 10/. j - Wilts & licks 67 11. 11
GAS-LIGHT AND CONE COMPANIES.
Dividend Amount
Name of Company. per of Paid. ' Price
Annum. Share. 1
X. s. d. X. s. d.
British ••••••.. • • • • • • 11. 40 0 0 18 0 0 I 17
Ditto Provincial.. • • IL Bs. 20 0 0 19 0 0 , 23
Bristol ••••••• • • • • . •• 101. per cent. 20 0 0 - , -•
Brighton ••.•..• • • • .. 5/. per cent. 20 0 0 - ' 18
City of London .. • ... 10/. 1100 0 0 100 0 0 290
Continental Consolidat. 925. pr share 50 0 0 39 5 0 -
Ditto, New • • ...... 85s. pr shares 51) 0 0 37 10 0 -
Equitable.. •••.. . • • .. 455. pr share 50 0 0 50 0 0 38S
Imperial • • .... •• - -6/. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 75
Independent ....... • • 61. per cent. 40 0 0 40 0 0 64
London • ....... ••• • • • 2%1. pr cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 ' 10
Ditto ••••••• • • • • • • • Gt. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 1 35
Phcenix .••..• • • • • ... 5/. per cent. 50 0 0 45 0 0 ' 31/5
Retell fr .. •• • .. ••• • • • W. and bns. 100 0 0 90 0 0 ! 80
United General ••• • - 4%1. pr cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 17
Westminster Chartered 3/, 50 6 0 - 563¢
Ditto, New •••• • • . . 12s. 50 0 0 10 0 0 11k
BRIDGES
Dividend Amount
Name of Company. per of Paid. Price.
Annum. Share.
........M.M.
X. a. d. L. s. d.
Hungerford • • • • .. • • .. - - - ,45
Southwrk,Nw Sub./tv. - 632 12 8 - 2N
Ditto Nw of 754 p.c. 355. per cent. 50 0 0 - 16
Waterloo .... •.•• • . • • - 100 0 0 - 5
Ditto Old Ann. of U. 11. ss. 43. - 60 0 0 27
Ditto Nw ditto of 71. 1/. 2s. 2d. - 40 0 0 25
Vauxhall .... ... Av 1/. 16s. 70 10 0 - 26
WATER-WORKS
1 Dividend Amount
Name of Company. per of Paid. Price.
Annum. Share.
- -
X s. d. £ 8. d.
Birmingham .•••• • • • • 185. 25 0 0 25 0 0 -
East London..• •••• • • • 81. 100 0 0 - 175
Grand Junction ••• • .. 2/. 105. 41 13 4 - 82
3/. 100 0 0 - 84 -
Jew Rivr Lndu Brdge 21. 10s. - - 55
rauxhall .• • ......... 100 0 0 - 104
West Middlesex . . . 51.15a.prent. 63 12 9 - 118
MISCELLANEOUS.
Dividend Amount
Name of Company. per of I Paid. Price.
Annum. Share.
X. a. d. X. is. d.
Australian Agriculturl - 100 0 0I 30 0 0 -
Anglo-Mexican Mint., 11. 4s. 10 0 0 10 0 0 16
Ditto, Half Shares.. - - 210 0 -
Canada ... • • ....-- 61. per cent. 100 0 0 32 10 0 31
Uppr Canada Bonds 5/. per cent. .- - -
City Bonds.. • • .. 336/. pr cent. - - 89
Comp. Cppr Mnrs Eng. 5/. per cent. 100 0 0 4.. 0 0 0
Gen. Revers. & Invest. sp. c.& bs, 21 100 0 0 100 0 e -
Equitable Reversionry 4%1. pr cent. 100 0 0 95 0 0 -
Gen.Steain Navigation 11.83. 15 0 0 14 0 0' 24%
London Institution . • • - - 1 - 11
Pcninsir & Orient.Stm. 2/. per cent. 50 0 01 50 0 0 59%
Reversionary Int. Soc. 3%1. pr cent. 100 0 0 , 100 0 0 95
Royal Mail Steam •• - 3%1. pr cent. luo 0 01 60 0 0 -
South Australian ... • • 61. per cent. 25 0 01 25 0 0 - -
Van Dieman's Land., - 100 0 0 23 0 0 1 -
Universal Salvage - 25 0 0 5 0 0 1 -

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
ROUSE OF LORDS, Feb. 21.
IRISH POOR-LAW.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE expressed it as
his opinion that, on the whole, the poor-law in Ire-
land had worked well, although in some dis-
tricts the pressure of the poor-rate had been
severe. He was happy, however, to say that the
collection of the poor-rates had during the last month
gone on regularly : in that period upwards of 00,000/.
had been collected. The whole amount of poor •rates
assessed in Ireland during the last year was
1,618,0001., being only at the rate of 2s. sd. in the
pound on the whole rated property of Ireland. By
the Emigration Act; a number of children would be
provided for, and public works had been and were
going on in Ireland. Still he could not promise that
they would be continued to the extent of affording
relief to any ♦ery considerable portion of the popula-
tion. The Land Improvement Bill, however, was
coming into operation in the most satisfactory manner.
Application had already been made for upwards of
2,000,000/. under the provisions of the Act. A con-
siderable :portion of this amount had been sanc-
tioned, but it was not until the present month that
the operations had beneficially commenced. How-
ever, he might assure their Lordships that there vas
not a county in Ireland in which works were not now
being begun, suggested, and facilitated by the excel-
lent measure in question.—(Hear, hear.) There was
another point on which he wished to say a few words,
he meant the division of the country into poor-law
districts—a division which he admitted had been at-
tended with more or less injustice and inequality of
taxation. The fact was, that it was necessary to
adopt some sort of division, and had a new system
been carried into effect, the time which would have
been requisite for its preparation would have dela3,d
the operation of the poor-law for the whole of the
present year. Under these-6ircumstances the princi-
ple of electoral division had been adopted, as on the
whole the best of any of the existing modes of divi-
sion, not by any means ;as being a perfect or an un-
exceptionable one. This much, however, he would
say, that while Government were prepared to enforce
the collection of the poor-rate, they would willingly
ecter into a full consideration of the necessity of hav-
ing a re-division of the union districts in Ireland.—
(I tear, hear.) As to the administration of the pcor-
laws, he admitted that from what he had heard of the
circumstances of some of the unions in Ireland, he
believed that in certain cases and jn certain districts it
would be desirable to have a system of paid guar-
dians.—(Hear, hear). The Noble Earl in the con-
clusion of his speech had entered upon topics of great
and general interest—topics which appeared to him
(the Marquis of Lansdowne) to he of too vast and
vital importance to be discussed by him in a mere
conversation incident on the presentation of a petition.
Lord CAREW desired to draw the attention of the
Rouse to the fact that where an employer laid out a
large capital in the employment of labour, he was no
better off than the person who contributed nothing.
If some arrangement could be made by which this
inequality could be obviated, it would be most bene-
ficial. lie had no objection to the establishment of
paid guardians, as he congidoreci that they would do

the business better, and with more econcm: y. In his
opinion it would be advisable to appoint as s assistant
poor-law guardian for each of the boar( Is, whose
office should partake of the nature of asi :ipendiary
magistrate. Such an officer would be feu nd to ob-
viate many of the difficulties which were found to
exist in the board of guardians as at press nt ; consti-
tuted.
Lord MONTEAGLE rejoiced at the an nouncee
ment which had been just made by her 3 Majesty's
Government, namely, that it was their into ntion, at
an early period, to revise the existing atm, to of electoral
division in Ireland. At the same time he should,
however, protest against the proposit io a of paid
guardians. The whole benefit of the clat is e proposed
by his Noble Friend (the Duke of 1 fellington)
would be done away with if they were appointed,
and he begged to remind them, that t if they
conferred this power upon the paid guars lions, over
the unpaid, they would be varying an A ct of Par-
liament. Parliament never intended, wh en it gave
its assent to the measure, that such a 1 sroposition
should be carried into effect. Let tht Govern-
ment say that such was their intention, and . he would
sit down content; but it never was, it was not so
much as dreamt of. If they intende.3 to. introduce
such a clause, they should give Parliart ;ent a as oppor-
tunity of discussing the question. He was desirous
that the children in the workhouses sl =ld . be edu-
c,..ted in practical industry, and that to t he Is :nowledge
of letters some acquaintance with agric ultt Ire should
be added. The Noble Lord the Seer eta ry for the
Colonies had some idea, as he understoo 3, of sending
workhouse children to the colonies. w, he was
very much afraid that if they were rears ,e L in idleness
they would snake but bad colonists. Ha d l this practi-
cal system of education which he adr ecated been
carried into effect a year or so ago, he was very much
of opinion that it would have greatly Itigated the
pressure of the late distress.
After a few words from Earl FITZ'S VILLIAM
the subject dropped.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid upon the
table of the House certain returns : arete sgst others,
an estimate of the money applied for and sanctioned
by the Treasury, under the Land Jl rn provement
Act. The Noble Lord then moved that the Earl of
Itipon be added to the Committee appc inted to in-
vestigate the affairs of the Bank and the: commercial
distress.

Earl GREY said—l rise in consequent:n of an ob-
servation which was made during the da") urse of the
discussion that has just taken place. it would be
most injurious that the notion sit( )uld go ab road that
it is the intention of the Government to take s children
indiscriminately out of the workh oases for the pur-
poses of emigration. It would create prejudices at
home, and raise an unpleasant fee ling in the, minds of
the colonists. I therefore beg t o explain' that this
emigration will be confined strict ly and mclusively
to orphan children, and will entire', 'y depend upon the
method in which they have been tr. tined. Great care
will be taken to see they have be ,en well educated,
and that they are acquainted with some useful em-
ployment. In consequence of the calamities which
have occurred in Ireland, there ar e a great number
of orphans whose ages vary from fi ye and-twenty to
eighteen and fifteen years of age. ' rhey are princi-
pally females, and great pains in m my of the unions
have been taken with their ecincatio: 3. As far as the
funds now in the hands of the Emig, ration Committee
shall permit, such as wish will be sent out, under
careful and suitable protection, to South Australia
and New South Wales. They shall be placed under
careful superintendence, and great ca re taken of them
upon their arrival. Under these circu 'lnstances, I am
sanguine in hoping that they will turn out most
useful emigrants to the colonies, a aid be of the
greatest possible advantage to themseh'ees.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a
petition from Hampshire in favour of the- removal of
the Jewish disabilities.
The House then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 21.
S U Y.—NAVY ESTIMATES.

The House then went into Committee of Sunply,
when

Mr. WARD, in answer to a question from an Hon.
Member, said that he intended only to ask for a suf-
cient sum, namely 245,4101. 19s. 7d., to enable the
Government to carry on their establishment mita
the Committee had made its report. The Hon.
Member then proposed that a sum of 245,410/. 9s. 7d.
be voted to defray the excess of expenditure over
last year's estimate.
Mr. HERMES thought that it was the duty of
the Government to state to the House the rea-
sons for bringing forward their ♦ote. The
House would be forgetting its duty if it
did not inquire most minutely into every
vote which was brought before the Committee.
If the object of the Government was to withdraw from
public discussion the principle on which the estimates
were made up, they were taking the worst plan that
could possibly be adopted by the appointment of a
" Select and Secret" Committee.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was
entirely of opinion that it would not be right to take
any whole vote; the Government only proposed to take a
vote on account. If the whole of the votes were proposed
to be taken a full explanation would be given. The
present vote before the Committee was one of anexcess
of expenditure, and ought, therefore, to be acceded to
at once.

Mr. BANKES wished to know whether this
excess of expenditure had not arisen from a squab-
ble between the Board of Admiralty and the Treasury?
If such were the case it was advisable that the
country should be in possession of the whole of the
facts as soon as possible.—(Hear.) With respect to
the appointment of this select and secret Committee,
he wished to know whether the returns from this
Committee would be laid before the House in such a
manner as to enable Hon. Members to know which
way the members of that Committee voted.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that by an Act passed a few years since, none of the
Public Boards were allowed to hold over any unap-
propriated balances, and any excess of expenditure
came immediately before the House. In former
times it had been the practice to hold over whatever
balances had been left of former votes, and conse-
quently departments had a full power of applyirT,
and sometimes of misapplying, those balances. But
now no balance could be held over after the sth of
April, and therefore there having been a deficiency
last year a subsequent vote was necessary. Gentlemen
must know that it was not always possible to keep
accurately within the estimates. As to the next
question, the secresy of the Committee, it was only
intended that all the world should not be made ac-
quainted with its proceedings. At the termination
of the Committee the whole of its proceedings would
be laid on the table.

Mr. HUME said that the proposition for a Secret
Committee was on many accounts most objectionable.
With respect to the vote, he thought it would be
much better to take a certain sum on account.

Colonel SIIITHORP objected most strenuously to a
Secret Committee. He should prefer a Committee car-
ried on openly before the public, or one which might be
faithfully reported by that excellent medium of com-
munication the public press.—(Order, order.)
Lord G. BEN TINCK said he was anything but satis-
fied with the explanations which had been given by the
Noble Lord, and the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer. He thought it highly unjus-
tifiable to propose a Secret Committee.—(Hear, hear.)
Unless the Noble Lord at the head of the Government
was prepared to say that there were,grave reasons of
state, and an immediate peril threatening the country,
he (Lord G. Bentinck), for one, should consent to
nothing of the kind.—(Bear, hear.) In his opinion the
Executive Government was no longer fit to hold its posi-
tion, if its authority and functions were to be handed
over to a Committee of that House.—(Hear, hear.) For
these reasons, unless the Noble Lord should give some
better reasons than had been given, he would not con-
sent to the unconstitutional proceeding of referring the
naval estimates to a Select Committee.—(Hear.)
Lord 11. VANE said that any Select Committee might
exclude the public ; but he thought it would be inexpe-
dient to have the present a secret one.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that the question of the ap-
pointment of the Committee was not before the House,
and therefore he should not discuss it at any length, but
merely allude to the observations of the Noble Lord op-
fosite. The Noble Lord seemed to think the Committee
proposed a novelty, but he begged to remind the Noble
Lord that in 1786, 1797, 1807, 1817, and 1828, similar
Committees were appointed, under the administration of
Mr. Pitt, Lord Grenville, Lord Liverpool, and, lastly,
of the Duke of Wellington. Committees had been ap-
pointed to inquire into the whole expenditure, including
the army, navy, and ordnance, and all, he believed, wore
not only select but secret Committees. That was to say,
not only were the public excluded, but Members of the
House, not on the Committee, were not allowed to be
present.
Why it should be unconstitutional to do that
in 1848 which had been done so often before, he owned
passed his own comprehension. The course might be
inexpedient or impolitic, but certainly it was not uncon-
stitutional. On one occasion Mr. Pitt gave as a reason
for secresy, that officers of departments were examined,
and might disclose facts which it might not be convenient
to publish to the world. lie (Lord John Russell)
thought that a practical reason, and that it applied
to the present time. If every member of the Committee
was to sik questions of persons high in office in the
various departments, there might be considerable incon-
venience in publishing the answers. He hoped that this
would satisfy his Noble Friend. Ho had stated on his
ewe, responsibility, that lie thought it would be highly
inconvenient to have the proposed Committee an open
one, in which every Member might ask what question
he pleased and have the answer published. He would
not enter into the question of whether it was desirable
that this Committee should be appointed. His Right
Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer would
move for it to morrow (this day), and would state his
reasons et length. His (Lord John Russell's) impres-
sion was that a Secret Committee would be for the public
advantage. As for the present vote, they merely wanted
such an amount, as would prevent public inconvenience,
out lie i,ud no wish to avoid punito discussion: On the
contrary, he thought it would be right to bring it forward
at a time when a full attendance of Members might be