The Sun.
London, England, 1848-11-30 00:00:00

FRANCE.
GENERAL CAVAIGNAC AND THE
CONSTITUTIONNEL."

Several journals of Paris and the departments having
published a statement of a conversation between General
Cavaignac and M. Veron, the chief editor of the Con-
stitutionnel, with respect to the election of the President,
and this having been the subject of various comments
at the Bourse, the theatres, and in public circles, the
Constitutionnel published a recital of the conversation.
After stating that a former interview had taken place
between these parties, when it was alleged to have been
the intention of General Cavaignac to suppress that
journal, on which occasion the editor, M. Veron, offered
to confer with General Cavaignac whenever the General
thought he could afford any information which would
lead to the adhesion of the Constitutionnel, it gave the
substance of the conversation as follows:

Cavaignac—You led me to expect, M. Veron, some
support from the Constitutionnel. It has not, however,
shown itself very friendly.
M. Veron—Since I had the honour to see you, M. le
President, the Constitutionnel has been nearly Minis-
terial.
General Cavaigns.c—Ministerial) That's very good.
Let us see. (The President then took from his portfolio
some extracts from the Constitutionnel, in which the
General himself was spoken highly of.)
M. Veron—You see here is the proof.
General Cavaignac—Let that pass. And now for the
question of the day—the election of President of the Re-
public. There are only two candidates, Napoleon and I.
Now I speak to you with a soldier's franknes. Will you
be for me or against me?
M. Veron—Tho question is plain; I can only regret
that my reply will be less so. Without being absolutely
for you, the Constitutionnel cannot be against you. //y a
448 nuances qu'il Taut conserver.
General Cavaignac—Would you trim between the
two? Between two candidates, one or other must be
selected. Pourquoi des nuances?
M. Veron—For your dignity and mine, General. If
the Constitutionnel should devote itself to your candi-
dateship, it would be said that you were the corrupter
and I the corrupted; calumny would find ample means of
exercising itself.
General Cavaignac—Calumny ! We must be re-
signed to that. Does it spare me? Am not I calum-
niated ?
M. Veron—l admit it, General; but you govern
France, and for such honour one must be content to suffer
a little; and the calumny which has attacked your per-
son has never attacked your good intentions; it has not
inflicted very deep wounds.
General Cavaignac--Well, I repeat my question. Will
the Constitutionnel support me? To so frank a question
let me have a frank reply.

M. Veron—Then frankly, General, in asking the Con-
stit utionnel to support you, you do not impose on it a
very easy task.
General Cavaignae (warmly)—And why not?
M. Veron—Because this poor country, already so suf•
firing, your party appear disposed to injure in its in-
terests, and almost in its morals.
General Caysignac—How its morals ? Have I not,
then, washed my hands ?
(The conversation then turned on the remplacement
militaire, in which M. Veron made use of an argument
as to the majority being opposed to that measure).—M
Veron (continued)—General, you have made a step, a
considerable step towards that majority, by appointing
MM. Dufaure and Vivien. But scarcely have you made
a movement towards this majority than you are seen to
retepgrade. You again surround yourself with the men
from whom you had separated yourself, as if you were
compelled always to move in the same circle, that of
the . . •
General Cavaignac (rising with warmth)—This is the
language of your party; always majorities—not a word
of minorities. You are an intractable party. You have
learned nothing, and forgotten nothing. AccOrding to
you, we must always govern for and by the majorities.
But have not the minorities their right,? Did not the
minorities tercb you, oti the 24th of February, what
they could tt.i? They may repeat the lesson. The
misfortune of this country is, that the opinions that you
represent have so great an influence—for Ido not deny
your inlita• ice.
M. Veron—But. after all, what do they represent?
Ideas of-order, which can alone save society, and which

alone can give stability to power.
General Cavaignac—ldeas of order! What, have we
done nothing for them? Paris, so profoundly dis
tubed, is it net tranquil? Under the Republic, can you
not ;ivy ;n security and ease? Can you not dine as
comfortably, Lull p.:S3 your evenings in amusement?
M. Veron—SO we could when the Cossacks were in
Paris; the invasion did not deprive us of this. If no
other benefits were to result, this would be but a sorry
argument for your candidateship.
General Cavaignac—Well, I s2e you are not for me,
and in a day or two I shall expect to see an attack on
me in the Constituronnel.
Mr. Veron—A. Le President, your services shall not
be repudiated by the Constitutionnel. and your character
shall be respected; but as to that adhesion you desire, .1
cannot promise it, It is a matter that demands con-
siderati.)n.
General Cay.tignan—Then I shall see you again.
;M. Veron—Y, atei what I have said, you think a
Second intervievy uoufnt, I shall be at your orders.—
. (Thus ended the co .venation.)
The followin:.; note has been sent to the Paris
journals
" A zeneral meeting convoked on November 23, 1848,
at which all the Poles in Paris were invited to attend,
bus decided that the ccreisony of the anniveriary of the
Polish revolution of November 29, 1830, shall not be
celebrated except. by a mass at St. Roch on the 29th
instant, it clever' in the morning. It was considered
that in presence of the deplorable events which are pas-
sing in Poland, and of the present political state of
Europe, the celebration of the anniversary in the form i
hitherto observed might give occasion to irritatingdiseu.s-
sions. The rights and the niartyrdoin of Poland, the duties
of France towards her, speak a language clear and sig-
nificant enough. Full of the calm sentiment of their
moral force, the Poles await the realisation of the solemn
engagements freely contracted towards their country.
The Poles, whilst recognising the immense bearing and
importance of that engagement, think that there would
be too grave inconvenience to indefinitely retard the ex-
ecution of it.
" Paris, Nov. 29."
[Here follow the names of the members of the Com-

raiitee.]
A letter from Lyons states that the strike amongst
the men employed in the coal-pits of the Loire has
terminated. The moderation of the authorities and
the conciliatory language of the Prefect has led to this
result. Some of the ringleaders were arrested, ani
the other men have agreed to work for the present
four days in the week only. The armed force,
though placed at the disposal of the Prefect, was not
called out.