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London, England, 1848-10-03 00:00:00

Examination resumed—He would not tell the name
of the person who told him the meeting was going on,
because if he did so they would be assassinated by the
clubs in Dublin. Ile put himself under the protec-
tion of the Court, for he had seen and heard the clubs
of Dublin planning assassinations.
Mr. WHITESIDE—YOU are sworn to tell the truth,
and you must tell me who sent you to the meeting,
or who told you of it. Witness—l decline to answer
that question.
The ATTOItNUY- GENERAL submitted that on
grounds of public policy, and as he had sworn that
assassination might take place, the Court would ex-
ercise a sound discretion in not insisting on his giving

an answer.
Mr. WHITESIDE contended that as he was not an
official person, or Secretary of State, he was not pri-
vileged. Neither his client, his attorney, or anybody
else knew anything of the man, and, for his own part,
he believed the statement he made about assassination
was a gross and unfounded slander.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL observed that lie really
knew not himself the party the witness alluded to as
being in danger of assassination if his name were
disclosed, but he thought he ought not to be com-
pelled to answer a question which would endanger
the life of another.
Mr. WnerEsinE—But you forget, Mr. Attorney,
that Mr. O'Brien's life is in danger.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL—Indeed I do not.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL then quoted a passage
from Starkie on Evidence, to show the communica
tions made to Government were privileged, particu-
larly in cases where the peace of the country was
concerned.
A long consultation then ensued between the
Learned Judges, after which,
Chief Justice BLACEBURNE said that they did not feel
themselves called on to compel the witness to make a
disclosure of the name.
The cross-examination was then resumed.—The
person who told him of the meetings was met
by him in Sackville street. He was a gentle-
man of rank and respectability, and of heredi-
tary loyalty. At the election of the Executive
Council Father Kenyon was not the second man
elected, nor was he elected at all. Mr. Duffy
wrote through Lalor from prison, requesting that
Fathers O'Maley, and Kenyon, and Hughes should be
elected ; but all present refused unanimously not to
elect them because they were priests.
You swear that ?—I do.
Whose name is that ?—(handing the witness a
ballot :paper.) Witness—Father Kenyon's ; but it
was said among them without going into a division,
that no clergyman was to be placed on the Council of
War. Father Kenyon may cr may not be in his
parish, whose name was proposed at the
war-council, while Mr. O'Brien, who re-
fused to have anything to do with it, was
in the dock. The Secrettary of the "Red Hand"
Club was a person named O'Callaghan, who escaped
to America, but it would not be prudent to tell the
names of others. He received no payment whatever
for his evidence, nor did he expect to be ol.liged to
leave the country; he did not see Halpin sines he was
arrested, nor did he know whether he was in Clonmel
to give evidence for the Crown.
Thomas Griffin, a police-constable, examined—
He deposed to his having arrested Mr. J. F. Lalor
at the house of a Mr. Kennedy, where he found a roll
of papers in a black bag, of Mr. Lalor's. The witness
then identified the balloting papers.
Mark Pender proved that he was on duty at the
Felon newspaper office, on the morning of the 22.1 of
July, when he saw Mr. O'Brien on a car, apparently
leaving Dublin.
A guard of the Wexford coach next deposed to his
having taken up Mr. Meagher and another gentle-
man, at Laughlinstown, on the morning of the 23.1.
Another witness proved that he saw Mr. Smith
O'Brien at Enniscorthy, and heard him say to about
500 people, that he was glad there was a club formed
in the town, but regretted its numbers were so few
in such a place. A club, he added, should be
formed in every place, and that parish clubs should
also be got up. With regard to the police, he was
glad, he said, to see so many of them present, and
that they ought to be treated as friends until they
proved themselves enemies. He said he was treated
with great kindness in many parts of Ireland by the
soldiers; then alluded to the suspension of the Habeas
Corpus Act, and called on the people to be prepared
for any emergency. He then introduced Mr.
Meagher, who said he always was, and ever would
remain, the unrelenting enemy of the British Govern-
ment; that he had the honour a short time before to
address 50,000 Tipperary men, who said or swore, he
could not say which, to join him. He then alluded
to the difference he had with the late Mr. O'Connell;
but added, that the best way to make amends, was
to bring the flag of liberty, and place it on his tomb.
Mr. Dillon was next brought forward, who declined
making a speech, but said he knew the Wexford men
were all brave and determined, and that they kept a
gun in the corner, and their powder dry. They then
left the town in a car in the direction of Kilkenny.
John Dowling, another policeman, was next ex-
amined, and deposed to his having seen Mr. O'Brien
with Mr. Meagher and Mr. Dillon at a place called
Graignamanna, in the county of Kilkenny. They
addressed a crowd of perions at the residence of a
person they called General Cloney, when Mr. Meagher
said he was a young man just entering political life,
and turning round to the General, who was an old
insurgent of '9B—
WinTEsIDE submitted.that the last words of the
witness, in describing a man as an old insurgent in
1798, incapacitated him from being a witness, for he
had proved himself a partizan.
The witness then proceeded to state what Mr.
Meagher and Mr. Dillon said at the meeting, the
last of whom asked the people if a warrant were is-
sued for Mr. O'Brien, and that a number of police-
men came to take him, would they let him go ? and
the answer was No.
Sub-Inspector Blake deposed that he saw Mr.
O'Brien in Kilkenny on Monday, the 23d of July, in
company with Dr. Kane, and saw him accompanied
by two others who appeared to be gentlemen, leaving
them in the direction of Callan.
Edward Stevens examined, and proved that he saw
Mr. O'Brien going up in one of the round towers in
the church in Kilkenny to take a view of the country,
and another policeman, named Robert Mahony, de-
posed to the prisoner having made a speech at Callan,
similar to that made by him in Enniscorthy, with re-
spect to the military and police.
Patrick Coghlan deposed that he was stationed in
Carrick-on-Suir in July last, when he heard Mr.
O'Brien address the people. He said the best way
he could judge or test the feelings of their hearts was
by calling them at once to the field ; that he was
about to be made a victim of English misrule and
domination ; there was a time gone by, when, if any
of my blood or ancestors were to be seized, there were
strong arms and stout hearts to defend and protect
them. He then asked them, would they allow it ?
and they replied, No, never. He then said that all
of them had strong nerves and stout hearts, and he
stood there to tell them that he wanted neither place
or emolument—that he sacrificed near and dear family
ties, and was with them determined to sacrifice
his life. But that was not the time for, speechifying.
Mr. Meagher next came forward, and made
another speech in which he said that when last he
appeared amongst them he came on business con-
nected with the country, but now be was on Govern-
ment business. It had advanced a step lately, in the
conviction of Mr. Mitchel, and that there were five
others equally as guilty as Mr. Mitchel. He then
said that the Judges were either corrupt or bloody,
he did not know which, and that every step the
Government took he would be prepared to meet it.
They could only punish him with death ; but he was
ready to meet it in defence of his unhappy country.
He observed that Ireland only sunk for a moment in
order to rise again into a glorious republic, and hur-
rahed for a republic. The time was come when they
should strike the blow. John O'Mahony was there,
but he did not mind the others.
He was cross-examined by Mr. Whiteside, when it
turned out that the extracts from which he read pas-
sages of the speeches was a copy of the notes he took,
and not the original notes themselves, and that not a
word about the republic, or bloody judges, was found
in the original informations sworn by the witness.
John Hamilton corroborated the evidence of the
last witness as to the speeches at Carrick.
After which the Court adjourned, at seven o'clock
to Monday morning.

DOVER, MONDAY, OCT. 2.—Her Majesty the
Queen of the Belgians arrived at Dover by the Belgian
steam-boat, at half•past 11 o'clock this morning, en route
from Ostend to London and Claremont. A special train
was in waiting, which conveyed her Majesty from Dover
to the station at Bricklayers' Arms, whence her Majesty
proceeded in one of M. Van de Weyer's carriages to
Claremont. Her Atajesty was accompanied by the Baron
Moerkercke, and the Countess Van Stratten. Mr. James
Al:Gregor, the Chairman of the South Eastern Railway,
received her Majesty at Dover, and was in attendance
during the jourtey.
FooLisu Arrain.--On Monday forenoon, between
ten and eleven o'cicck, a man was observed to leap into
the Tay, at the Dundee Railway-bridge, and proceed,
swimming, down the current with all his clothes arid a
heavy great-coat on, as if the water constituted a part of
his natural elemenr. People, however, began to get
Maimed for his safety, and two boats were manned to
rescue him. On coming up with him the crews imme-
diately collared him, against which proceeding he most
lustily protested, kicking and plunging at the same time
with desperate determination, stating that he was swim•
wing to the Friarton- hole for a heavy wager. His re-
monstrances and exertions to keep the water were of
no avail ; and he was pulled into one of the boats, and
put upon terra firma. It is believed that the amphibious
biped had no wager whatever, but being a good swimmer,
bad, under the common potent influence, thought he
would be none the worse of a little relaxation in the
other element, and we are happy to say that he was no
worse.—Perthshire Courier.