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. much per mile for a given number of years. In his
oinion, twenty years would be sufficient to pay off the advance.
°etSome such plan as this would easily meet the case. It had
the chestimated that about a million of money would he required
ange the broad into the narrow gauge and taking that as
would
euirs of the calculation, he thought that seven millions
into
thbe more than enough- for the conversion of the narrow
v.__ e broad guage. That would at least be the outside. With
si"icir, o.bservations he would sit down by asking the question of
5t0,05 had given notice, which was, when the Noble Lord
th:7...,7 tail of Dalhousie) expected the evidence on which the
7,Cornaission had founded this report would be laid on h„aßle; and also whether the Noble Lord was able to declare
::::L_ordeienertnhement intended to do in relation to that report?
Noble
_Earl of DALHOUSIE said he would not follow the
general observations he had made respecting
retere the gauges, ut reserve what he had to say till a
not ariter.i°d• The appointment of the Gauge Commission did
of hai in the other House out of the merits of the. gauges,
44e Of the diversity of guage, and the inconveniences that
Crepe frotn that diversity. An address was presented to the
glegs • ami a Commission was appointed to inquire into the
reports laid down in this country —into their diversity, and to
eriebeewh t loeins they thought it advisable to adopt in conse-
Ng, of this diversity, and if possible how an uniformity of
Cotere-I,lllght be obtained on all the lines in the kingdom. The
the. 4eioners had made the report,. and it had been laid on
Ir Lerd te '
ant Plat a ,Os table. The Commissioners recommeded in the
lea„e , that the four-feet eight-inch-and-a-half or narrow
tailrbe,',le the universal guage of Great Britain, and that all
to -"nw in the course of construction should be compelled
form the . ..
P:;iet-o;tsr:r,ines according to this guage; anti th•ey further re-
try whienhued that an endeavour should be made todiseover.mean 9
goitable arrangement might be effected. with the
%age for ~f. the lines laid down upon the principle of broad
i'lle ose
,treir alteratinn to uniformity with the narrow gauge.
lireet;si !Lion, he could assure their Lordships, was one of the
tlelibpra,'Mportance-( Hear, hear)—and must he carefully and
N- Wielr discussed.alteration of !he teed, lid either be productive of good or evil to the public,
:ea esseki.",,e,,ct,ing the enormous amount of capital which had
"striti,ruea in the construction of broad gauge lines, the
aent,..° of which had been sanctioned by Parliament.
lao re. ''e. hovvever, aware that no effect could be givento
ie;)°,rnendations of the Gauge Commissioners without the
hlal Ead°' an 'Act of Parliament; and the Government, though
4;4/4 t°. e:eir‘Y confidence in the ability of the gentle-
een the aim "anti the task was intrusted would not
laid dratPle recommendations of the Commissioners, but
ZL
of t
the Lee.every step to afford themselves and the Mem-
raendgislature an o ortunity i whether the
ae ~„pp . • %Uses mos or tue a,ommissioners (were founded on the
Oast e. submitted to them. He knew the anxiety of the
at the subject, and they would, therefore, think it right
,t4(lteee-°'erninent'should not take any steps until they had
the wrortutlity of' examining the evidence furnished to
t eeti;' s leh he expected would be laid upon the table in
0° Plaeee °f a fortnight or three weeks. No delay would
nt i„ th
Present
It would have been furnished with the report,
Sits the rtesent state of üblic business it was impossible to
retie& e Publication of all large body of evidence in a short
11e...Ler4 BRr.rs
ahLseth e-s'uGHAM was in favour of taking time to con-
ta-"netefleestion, as their decision would effect an immense
Latlpp I,- ea,Pital, a d Hlions yet unborn. It was a mistake
le.lisbezerete
I,,lareedare-aelZteitehnetaifirepniolretn had given general satisfaction to
eitl4l,_the. HetlnflisEsißeToe im said. the House must bear in mind
a inn wastha apaprovienwted on the recommendation of
gauge. Great caution and
:it'll. or tioeettaria.! thereforee nneerssary. Before he sat down he
kr, or meant t the attention of the House to the. absolute neces-
14e, and attling the principle of competing lines between
tam 1144P:Pulous towns. Passengers passing between
t
kotttcy ~rolineham and London and Lancashire were a
"aee-e,."; °lle company. The interest of the public could
aki
' Vair,,,co withoutcomp competition, and he hoped their Lord-
tl!tZ lteacaY, Committees would bear this fact in mind. .
1k:4414E8 of LONDONDERRY perfectly agreed with
44 V Id h.. abed, that the interest of the public could only be
by tablet of competing lines. In tall the
flteralaye v:err3r with which he was connected, nearly all
n
ku_ what
ha
under the management of one eompanyad
tee%' .ad transpired at a recent meetingheld in.. York,
wed.hetfitf it was proposed to amalgamate all the lines in
the,l,of `lgiand, and to place them under the manage-
tiN'ent of he ?ndividual.—( Hear, hear. ) Still when he
kke.,ltati come 'lmportance of those measures, he 'thought . the
rea-r. their Z.e when the Governm. ent shou.ld be cautious
s.a4,‘ wateheTceedings, and that it was their. duty to nar-
to
connect
etine
lateksy bra tknese Bills that came up proposing
PrL:At nheel'es, docks, and canals, witehd gwreitat
li. ehoi a's
IN
~ b le
t°4ll,...irlthkait, it :vaamseabtismol
me he enneteierseslayryag
that there should be
iniZ,l u iiirt.4 beano as
lines. Y
tistelnat hail Said he had one. observation. to correct respect-
Itei ' their been stated at his side of the
.House. He could
s
test tiet Lordships that the Commission on the gauges
6,elati, ia asked for by gentlemen who were inte-
las °en. brailway lines He (Lord Grey) supported
O't that-",,,ernber for Sto.ckport, who moved the address to
ikre4)ivemntnission appointed. At that time, he (Earl
they for till° favour of the broad gauge, and he believed they
ileitheeßhet Pmranission exclusively on these grounds—th. at
tette/stati . it
b, Was most important to have the. question in-
tteJthe "a competent authorities in order, if
.possible, to
tefe;;• Ifel:se'Meeniencies that would arise by. a difference of
4%4
togaehierouht that was the question which ought to be
filketi„hricl , 7
iat e_'l4,l„-„l'Pointed Commissioners, who had ably discharged
i_te;t•Po„ tt Ted on them, and he (Earl Grey) considered that
!1g.1°11,1,-P a most able document. He could not differ
Ita tiree--",ae Lord, notwithstanding that it would be proper
t
ts it ease in coroider how they were toset , alth.mghtiia
ake,44Wes Hi' which delay would create serious inconvenience,Gevevnmen
be he:4 important that the decision of t
le_ Al/1-74 with the least possible delay.
4,;(17 I),CIARy OPERATIONS IN INDIA..
eittPs a°f WELLINGTON—I have to acquaint your
Bobo, Oros
'hi eeit-,:t.t, mY Noble Friend, the President of the Board
if....1ti0 "Int on Monday, submit to your Lordships certain
torcs 9 ise
relating to the proceedings of the forces of her
kii,:- their late operatiens in the East Indies. Your
Clareferwt.!l recive, on Thursday or Friday next, certadin
N„ 3,h Ing toe those operations, in order that your Lor -
tta:e t rte thefallest information on the:subjeet.—( Hear. )
Litili,r, r'et°l ST. GERMANS having obtained permission
1 001 ~'"I•r!Y to allow his Bills to take precedence of the
"ett -"kh the Noble Earl intended to propose, brought
IV II
the
tett.taitt a 13LI
t„. , C WORKS (IRELAND) BILL. .
Ilitheestee;`.9otnents were then proposed and agreed to with-
ksrl 11lls
I.llklid 4', ~ AND HARBOURS (IRELAND). BILL.d
11,,, 44 "a ERMAN S in moving that this Bill be rea a
alsei'etila:t said that the' money proposed to be lent by the
141i:aell oPi a great measure, develope the very great natural
NeNes ef the reland which at present lay dormant io conse-
etistr„ Poverty of her people. When proper piers, &c.
c'et, end e-„e„ted, the people would be furnished with employ-
'Vat ilk f "ear) and wholesome fond. It was a remarkable
tat '4 the felarid there were 700 miles of coast in which were
Lltltlriaate thanest harbours in the world, and yet there were
neolloe tierab° pepoats employed along the whole coast,
Nu Or 90 oerir 0 ple employed in them did not exceed
`lseiLteseet! "6. Now he thought it was most important the ,ste7; cl Tees of Ireland should be encouraged and properly
lltti,lit r .1 was proposed to advance money to any county
Nl,' ses irtellnire the ;same for the purpose of constructing
te,Po • the
°eighbOttrhOOd ; and that county was made
teposittesii ,:tble for
applied pa ment of the money so borrowed.
Is t sihieelistriet
for money that district was made
Iftitt these and if a private individual were allowed any mo-
-447
thin;mi.l
zp:nr,,pnasneds,hihjaaid: land waspledged for the repayment
Isk ore- • He bel'edved that apmeea7ssuerne which was simi-
yeeemell, aria
he therefore
a session or two ago, had
itd,that riteading °f
the
Preseernetorßeilmis, u'acsh
hpeleaesennrfiediennmtlyovhineg_
i Lor,,would work equally well.
Seaki;ard At (V,,cli ANCELLOR having put the question,
ll t the` EAGLE rose for the purpose of giving his
asa4 reeel„,, Eiill• He hopedth that the- people of Ireland
igioopr,ol3o.asr_e.te,tln,eiesie measure in the same spirit as they had
by. the
ineein.diUu°nTvehet:_tnument.—( Hear, hear.) It was
ititlep:obrwii;li)itvoelintroduceteu ZPf the Noble Lord opposite
fn; gattir tion been extensdib:ca;ll gorave llromotion of
equalPub-
its satisfaction to
‘,44 recommend Potionsd of those la
the benefits which had, by ,ette ed the setiei It"
those Ireland, had greatly
inlaita.._l°, Parliarneent."--( Hear, hear. ) The first proposition
ascotal measure. T
considered by many as an ex-
VVeer in . ure. They created four or five boards, with
tlep '4lll°ll all power was vested, to consolidate the whole
No of
triuents.
, That board was entrusted with the super
1‘,741 1,4 e whole, and he (Lord Monteagle) believed that its
ItiNtiNtileln•ainlY 9wing to the spirit, the skill, anti theon.
PThargty of his Gallant Friend Sir John. Bur
oliferti 0 i.h_e had been no loss. sustained by the public worth
~,t,,ie 1O
they had gained by
-alketgit Can', more than the expended in the same
the interest paid
manner.! t 1.114 ,541 the..
/ been doing- 'n the course of the ten, or
Nit Aelti: years, which had intervened since the passing
)7t'pt flatibilSuch had been the confidence maintained by the
:I'd throw° Works in the public mind, that the Govern-
kttla*Nt 12,,n vastly increased labours upon them. They
'I hoctl them every duty in Ireland which they did not
'bait 15,4 otherwise to get rid of. If they tried an.y
the'led .cf to
the Board of Public Werke,
tea led Willi it. If they' found a harbour mismana gad
‘,4 e"ed its
11,kiti flied of isio,,o regulation from the local authorities
ttho
It Itsr°°ll en ,`„'" Works. The management of 3laynoo t 44:, the 4111,
be
Board, and the alterations in the present
t te, were be carried into execution by them. The fact
40• qt._ tie, e overwei hi h -'ll. hor-e and destroying
4-7 sklNeet,f;f_ kn admirablegase By'ularindg. They had lost his ktitsheltele diat", whom they had had so much confidence, still
t;',4.4tehl?attet duty t, make up for the deficiency. They ought
q4iltlg was °l)5, to give efficiency to the Board of Worikn ,
Ntos,:ft isr Important in that direction as
.empl ty . g
te itloyLaeteits-tte and men of seience, who might devise
h th, .455 t ,I. by which a great addition would be made to the
:kle tptt the People. This was particularly important
44 Ns. d not ergeneY ; and he further entreated the
tt,koaCt ese .0 rest satisfied with the present Bill, or with
Ilitli!Niaeet the
v°te; but to bring forward other measures
n ne -.' pres . kkre a RattOf hiciimNA ate of Iredland
the' present Bill, and
kept% tic)`4l. tMt only be utpepvoerttee
for it, but for any mea-
lb):N elor °I happyCommonsnlight send up to
NI sr:ltted to improve thcondition of Ireland.
give employ-
aot . .3 then read i third tiemee-
_ktriel bAn Ti4D
h,n-1,1,,, ~,,RE --,,,. GAME LAWS.
nee e I till', and to move the second reading of the
ke" 141tl'a that ••a to 'doing so, said he would proceed to re-
Sq. L 41,6, had hitherto 'b
e in operation relative to
11,4 r ,;(ivegretl a retrospect of teh,niselawps for the last thirty
Itettleeets' Par 4.
. the manner in which the condition of the
A4litr %lie tek )1'1°11,1,4,1y those of the agricultural body, had
cjit kat ,s.all'era4,,l'a 6 a committee had sat upon this question,
lient t here omit and inconsistenc of the game-laws then in
i. l4 861 Shown. A committee of the other House,
4,l.satikt peri6 , entered into a careful investigation of the
hit'Les 14°I vitriol,:
,They examined with great minuteness the
ittire it'°lt, -9 Jwges, Particularly th decision of Chief
is , tra'as held the the case of Sutton v. Moody, in
litaNe (Lerri"_that
101 ganae belonged to the owner of ea
:Ititehlf: tswkltticia wafr_e)nbroaucght
din a Bill i.nhto the other Home
that decision-
-o,titin. ho",10v Rain;'
bielon_ec?r
toanete e
4 11 "
tki had . was °g ad h "Owner of the soil,
0 1.1 Ira es ,akeerred passedsince that period
k,i winiam
~
,to alter this opinion. The l!tt
1:a tiblstatl il:t of the .„11.', on this subject, was an identi-
(cat h Nil b would i1'.i.,111 which Ito lost in the Commons ln
Oe. Ve t,_ ee, . e served all the objects contemplated,
a ea rete,..._ , .
~
oe4l Skil Prorert,the principle that the possession of
14ir top
~ regeiaLt_o gam.e. This Bill, however,
.intro-
iLlishieole tale 'ro, which authorised the granting of
tt''' 441 to p game, and which rendered the licensed
%.lea e t enaltles if l
'h
it" ttp Shell° n. ,i, ie purchased from a person w o 4.'te ' %NI re 'be qualification, however, to sell de-
i.oy ,, gulatio plaid the law open to several
let Ittia atl so f !dill he
atsalsecote. at as it ir popo would be far more
tor
. tie_,:e wit, Quid prevent the poacher from having
titt iti 41 rt st " the licensed dealer. Th(!re_ fore
tt_h)er
111 Ity their is be liable;
,1,.111h and , possss,_ to. the same punishmen t
tt.4:11-tati,p,oe person 4,!. game without having entered the
ti7f , NIS a , fi.eal 11,, 'rOM whom it was purchased. That
N 44,1'tiatin5ral,ilY • adenp
ileep,l4,:lhat inter fe r:n eawnieth;
reds for a real proper ty in the game
i that ,
ewd o udloda
lbe et 3 t Lille,
'"7 to make, for it was importantnto know