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London, England, 1848-08-17 00:00:00

CASE OF MR. WILLIAMS.

Lord BROUGHAA moved for the examinations
t'ken before the magistrate on the the prosecution of
Mr. Williams against his cook, for doing that which he
hoped the cooks of every one of their Lordships did
every day, for giving away broken s:ctuals to s beggar;
for which, after undergoing three months imprisonment,
she w:is discharged by Mr. Justice Coleridge.
The motion was agreed to. _

Lord BEAUMONT. presented a petition from the guar-
dians of Boston against granting superannuation aallow-
ances to poor-law officers.
POOR-LAW UNION CHARGES BILL.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the second
readimg of this Bill, and also the second reading of the Bill
for the better education of the poor. These Bills had come
up from the other House, where they had already been
fully debated. The Noble Marquis then proceeded to de-
scribe the nature of Ale two Bills.

(LEFT IirIAKIXG.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock.
PAISLEY, BARItHEAD, AND HURLET RAIL.

WAY.

On the motion that the Lords',amendments be agreed to,
Mr. F. MAIME proposed an amendment with respect
to some of the tolls, which, after some discussion, was
agreed to, as also the Lords' amendments.
THIRD READINGS.

The following Bills were read a third limo :
EEnl of Sheffield's Estate.
Marquis of Bute's Estate.
Marquis of Londonderry's Estate (No. 1).
Marquis of Londonderry's Estate (No. 2).
Weld Blundell's Estate.
SUPPLY.

Mr. BERNAL brought up the report of the Com-
mittee of Supply last night.
On the vote to the Foreign-office of 57,500/.,
Mr. URQUHART rose to Gall the attention of the
House to the uselessness of the expenditure for diplo-
matic agents abroad.
Sir GEORGE GREY trusted the Hon. Gentleman
would not persist in his motion, as the subject had bee❑
already fully discussed.
Mr. URQUHART said he had already, on more than
one occasion, postponed his motion to oblige the Go-
vernment.

Sir G. GREY said, if the Hon. Gentleman stood
on his right to proceed with the subject now he had not
a word M say; he merely wished to save the time of
the House.

Mr. HUME urged the Hon. Gentleman not to pro-
ceed with his motion, as he would have ample opportu-
nities of doing so on another oecasion.
Mr. URQUHART then postponed his motion.
Tho report was agreed to.
COMMONS ENCLOSURE (No. 2) BILL.
This Bill passed through Committee; to be read a
third time to-morrow.

PETTY BAG, &c., OFFICES (COURT OF CHAN-
CERY) BILL.

The further consideratiol'i of the report was proceeded

with.
Mr. HUME said one clause provided that the salaries
of the officers under this Bill should be paid out of the
suitors' tunti. He had no objection ;to this, provided
the fund were placed under the management of the
Treasury.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL considered that no
good would arise from the adoption of the suggestion.
The report was then agreed to; to be read a third time
to-morrow.
STOCK-IN-TRADE EXEMPTION BILL.

On the third reading of this Bill,
Sir R. IL INGLIS rose to oppose it. He admitted
that the subject was surrounded w oth difficulties ; but
they could meat them far better under the Property-tax
Act than under an entirely new provision, since the
Property-tax Commissioners had the best means that
could be obtained of knowing the exact position of the
parties who would be brought under the operation of this
Bill. He was, however, not prepared to resist the pro-
gress of the Bill.
Sir G. GREY said the Bill merely proposed to con-
tinue the practical exemption of stock in trade from
rating, and it was absolutely necessary that some such
measure should be introduced to amend the unequal
working of the existing law. If it were not
sufficient to meet the grievances to which
the present law gave rise, he should have no
no objection to introduce some general measure on the
subject next session.
Mr. GLAI)STONE considered if another annual
Bill like the present was introduced again that sone-
tking might be introduced into it to give tithe-owners
that measure of relief which they. were entitled to have.
Mr. NAPIER thought the grievances complained of
pressed more heavily upon:lrish landlords than upon
tithe-owners in England. The most considerate course
would bo that in the early part of next session a Select
Committee should be appointed, and that the whole
question of the peor-laws should be taken into conside-
ration, so as to effect au equitable distribution of the
money to be raised over that part of the whole cem-
munity which was able to contribute.
Mr. BANKES said that the case as it now stood
was at variance with the law, and ho would
tell the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary for the Home
.Department that it was the duty of the Government to
mu a mode by which those grievances could bo re-
dressed.

Mr. MUNTZ complained of the unequal operation of
the law. The object
of relief under the poor-law ap-
peared to be to keep the poor and miserable quiet. A
person who had acquired a large fortune in a large
manufacturing town in which a great number of poor
persons and miserable nsresided—the unfortunate condition
in a
of whom he had,siacertaine dtgree, aided in bringing
ha
about—retired from s, went to another part of the
country, and placed his entire
property in the Funds, and
thus escaped being upone to contribute a single
farthing to the lie
support of poor. Ile thought that
nothing short of a national tax for the support of the
poor, would lead to a fair and equal distribution of the
burden upon all classes.
that
in its rating
aw
Mr. itEnEY took a view of the
itathe its orreyrk solag-in,
details, and concurred in the opinion
Lion to the ditliculties which occurred
was a general tax on all property.
After a few words from Mr. C. LEWIS,
system
destro ofy tha- -
Mr. NEWDEGAT e
E considered that there was
,pr,
sort of inequality about the present
rating,
l but
deprecated any measure which would
application and administration of the poor-law.
After a lbw observations from Mr. BROTIIERTON and
Sir 11. INGLIS,
The Bill was read a third time and passed.
CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS BILL.
The liouso went into Committee upon this Bill, Mr.
BERNAL in the chair.
After a short discusaion the clauses were agreed to,
an.l the report was ordered to be brought op to-morrow.
The noise then resumad.

METROPOLITAN COMMISSION OF SEWERS.
The report upon this Bill was brought up and agreed
to, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to•
morrow.

RENEWABLE LEASEHOLD CONVERSION I
(IRELAND) BILL.
The House then went into Committee on this Bill.
Clause 4 was agreed to with a few verbal amendments.
On clause 5 being put,
Mr. LAW objected to the irresponsible power given
by the clause to the Chief Remembrancer of Ireland.
Mr. NAPIER supported the clause.
Mr. LAW said, unless the clause was altered or with-
drawn, he should move that the Chairman report pro-
gress.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE would consider the objection
of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, although he thought
the course pursued was most objectionable.
Mr. LAW thought that the Bill was most objection-
able. In his opinion it was the middle man's Bill, and
not calculated for the benefit of either landlord or tenant.
He must have an undertaking that the Remembrancer
should act under the orders of the Court, or he must
press the motion to a division that the Chairman should
report progress.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE would consider the proposi.
tion of the Hon. and Learned Member between the pre-
sent time and the bringing up of the report.
Mr. LABOUCHERE could assure the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman that his Right Hon. Friend was
sincere in what he had stated, and trusted that the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman would not throw any obstacle
in the way of passing the Bill.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE thought the Honourable and
Learned Gentleman's proposition was worthy of con-
sideration, and he v. ould give his best attention to it.
Mr. LAW said upon that understanding he would
withdraw his amendment.
Clause 5 was then agreed to, an ordered to stand part
of the Bill.
Clause 6 was agreed to, with a few verbal amendments.
Clause 7 was agreed to after a short discussion.
Clause 8 was also agreed to, with a few verbal amend-
ments.
The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and ob-
tained leave to sit again to-morrow at twelve o'clock.
FEVER (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be
committed on Monday next.
TAXING MASTERS COURT OF CHANCERY
(IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill was ordered to be read a second time at
twelve o'clock to morrow.
ECCLESIASTICAL PATRONAGE SUITS COM-
PROMISE (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill was ordered to be committed after the
other orders of the day were disposed of.
TRANSFER OF LANDED PROPERTY (IRE-

LAND) BILL.
This Bill was read a second time and ordered to be
committed to-morrow, at twelve o'clock.
DUBLIN POLICE BILL.
This Bill was ordered to be committed after the other
orders of the day were disposed of.
UNLAWFUL OATHS (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be
committed to-morrow at twelve o'clock.
LABOURING POOR (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill was ordered to be committed after the other
orders of the day were disposed of.
POOR REMOVAL (No. 2) BILL.
This Bill was ordered to be read a third time after the
other orders of the day were disposed ot.
COMMONS INCLOSUItE ACT AMENDMENT
BILL.
This Bill was ordered to be committed after the other
orders of the day were disposed of.
The House then adjourned till Five o'clock.

The House resumed at Five o'clock.
PETITIONS.

Mr. NVYLD presented two petitions from Cornwall
against the Copper Ore Bill.
Mr. BRIGHT presented a petition from the Odd
Fellows of Roc'ndale against the Odd Fellows Society Bill.
Mr. COBDEN presented a similar pptition from a
place in Yorkshire.