The Sun.
London, England, 1846-02-18 00:00:00

of that produce, a great deficiency was occasioned by the. evil
, of absenteeism. By the union, a large mass of the rich proprie-
• tors have been induced, to leave the country, and as much as
from two to three millions of money have been abstracted from
the home market. In fact, the home market, he might say,
• lras not only impaired but destroyed; and until they could re-
turn to Ireland the advantage which that country had
ens
Joyed by the residence of rich proprietors, they would
render it unable to enter into any sufficient competition
with the manufacturers of England, ard all their
effirts to remedy the distress would be ineffectual.
Until this was done they could not expect her manufactures
being employed was because their absentee landlords were con-
draining her of her resources. If they meant to revive
tthe manufactures of Ireland, they must stop the drain on her
apital by the absentee landlord,. They should stop that drain.
that
should remember that there was a
drain on the capital of.
Cradt country of four millions and a half by the absentee land-
'. How would that act against this country ? Would they
Ilat
d°have want and misery staring them in the streets, and
old not the country cry out against so great an evil? This
there were other drains from ►that country; there was a sum of
70+0004 taken annually from her in the shape of a ground-rent
tv, when they spoke of-the Government grants and the ad-
;:dlrtehlea3n.d, and when they made, he would not say a
uo,a4st of intt,rbyut when they made a public declaration of those.
Krautsoaierl„eree.s,o u
to not a right to say, "'Look at the conduct of
us during the last century and a half." _ Let
t°, remember the language of Huskisson. When speaking
• t"'' sufferisigs of Ireland, he described them as the results of
ti,r,siheepsr.feaatulte,,g,i2lation ard the great drain which was made on
In revenue of the co' untry. It might not be in their power to
correet e
inseils that have pressed Ireland at once, but thhis.,
e hail it their power to do. They could prevent t
Pel'etti"ed drain upon her resources, for "how could it be CX-
f ..d that, the capital remaining in Ireland could be in a state
°lenv's'Orotts circulation, when a constant amount of eight. or
the: tudlions was annually derived from that country, for which
rtee"ived iin return. It was with the body politic
expect the huma body if the blood were gone, could they
thedrath. at the bondytv;u—ld maintain a healthy action ? and if
that en 'tied the resources. of a country, could they expect that
of tie- °Qtry would improve its condition ? How was this state
kind-
badto be changed? There had been some talk of
messes to Ireland in
pecuniary matters, and that night mention
rte 'eco made of 468,0001. given in grants to that country.t
tee: to the entire stain given, at this moment didd
ehar?t t() the sum of their own revenue ; and which, aster
4.'li 1' die-
and 'g the claims of Ireland, went into the public revenue.
spent in country. They had a remedy, if this
thaas-,?tt.r)- but adoptils it—the restoration of their own Perim-
tax hsf they Was t that remedy, let tithe at least
takel4e,,hsentees, Was it not monstrous that should
them ‘neSte 0/. out of that country for years without giving.
forrneanY return whatever ? If they would not consent to the
441 hrs illeahure, they might at least adopt the less natural one,
Woa,4 believed less effective one, of taxing the absentees.
efter a Pie Government allow the surplus of Irish revenue,
eliatil,,ree:stl:tr,ea.Yie the expenses of Government in Ireland, In be
th' in Ireland ?If they contributed to the produce of
the thev ou,ht to have a fair share of the expenditure of
ti 'hp should not the expenses of the navy be
to tr,ll "Y the two countries? There were splendid harbours
to '''and, superior to those in England, but more
bopen.
be a f`jr'i4n foe Why should not those har ours
\S'eeti,hrdett Fs. eelish men-of-war ? (Hear, hear.)
flita•'"e'uld not- there'be dockyards established in Ireland ?
tt'ar• ) Why should the whole expenditure he atitorhed
epont'ieountry? One- of the great evils which had been visited
estabeiireland had been the reduction of the Government
lazes
”`" pit,lf there were time, he could show that the
eieht eh had bean remitted in this country exceeded by
the „c•e° times the taxes remitted in Ireland. The taxes since
see ''uon that had bein'imposed on this country amohnted to
Yoe °l.'erea, while in Ireland it had been as one to eighteen.
r%ae., charged the people of Ireland five per cent, for the
vanees, wnich ITas been advanced to them, whereas the ad-
ehars,h tliade to the people of England have been
srels'a- 'ttv four, and in some cases only three-
te-Lalf
cent. These and other petty matters
actm fair) t', impoverish the country. You have not
elnt,e toward, Ireland in this as in other respects. The'.h
t's he .4hi you boast of advancing to us is the money which
hie obtained from us by such means. These
_are
bmewrasttleocros
hi, si,,°°lti know. It was not the fault of Hon.. M
sot at"f` °f the House if the Government of this countryem wouldhim
.?say ',l'd to this state of things. It was unnecessary for .
;'nu'e ',tat it was of the utmost importance that both countries
tote r, Le heartily bound to for if war came on
it
,Insegilence• of the state of feeling which prevailed,
dtsch"oy'tcalculate. He felt that he was only
t'f ti:,,?n dos? as n Member, in taking .alleviate thew
,thi e ee-4,'ject• Nlillatever they had hitherto done to _
(Tent,',7 of that unhappy country was but small and mei!
"%ee - earned them that now was the time.to chanee
perteit I* all, and etitirely the eystern of policy which they had
Nord 1' -sued toward Ireland.—(Loud cheers.)
ethe j' RUESELL—I do not altogether concur' in some of
„,"4° eveaticßis which have been made by the Hon.. Gentle-
13pr: te was just sat down. I am so very far from wishing to
rts itaotTY discussion on the subject, that I would rather
t're th Member to take every opportunity to bring be-
spell e attention of Otis House the grievances of Ireland, and
has
thr4eeitsurea as might be considered most advisable to adopt
els be miprovementgof its condition. The Hon. Gentleman
ssE,ir,aself allowed that there exists in this House a desire and
fortistt to relieve those distresses when proved to exist ; and,
Zt Y "° Part. I am prepared not only to take into conside-
,eosl,Teevizoe:er:t grievances whicht.exi:t, but also all the for-
k 11-4)4, s under which tha country has laboured ;as
r measures which may be cdered est adapted
'4 fret good of Ireland:—(Cheers.)onsi li ow,b Sir, am
Yet (r° being of opinion that *anything the House has
s,hould be regarded as a boon to Ireland..—( Hear,
e-nit ) eh.look upon this House as the representatives of the
L-illsefed ,'`"ndom and• if one part of that kingdom should.h
,7441, ,;°,l°e more serioasly than another, it is the
° 'tut yof this House to take measures for the effectual
shah (A that evil, and certainly Ido not consider that for
ue
or assistance, that afflicted portion of the country
the expected to be grateful.—( Hear, hear.)
14,4 •
rotas
I have risen on the present occa-
teeth not for the purphse of entering into the
late nf tl
--: ter h 'e statements made in reference to this subject,
eoeßht.t
Gentleman
of joining in the wish expressed by the
the : iteuld opposite, thit th.e. Hon. Member for
P severe any further with his motion after
that had been offered by the Government. I
gq,ulrn-i,t, after listeningtothe statement of the Right Hon
m"vese-50 oPPosite I feel satisfied, that while her Majesty's
teZl,,,orlihreattro,t,„has.vh left• nothing undone to avoid the impending
e lect upon the one hand.
fer4edr as taur- %en entity
the f
et°4 the ee e
hni a
In y. oostfean7ytinongs display of the relief a/-
tan
opinion, and bearing in mind
'tor:- that thother,m(isjlng this
iPn Ireland may recommend
eatens
'ald e e measures than those of the Government, if they
fe). Ouch necessary, I feel confident that there
tit's nif,ell;,e of complaint' left, and therefore it is that I
4.,iscisTio;h:,l,
(I.l7s4gs:sat btehru tetexwpithdraw his motion. If he should
expiration of a month or so be of opi-
i;!tht t„ tue Government measures are not such as he had. a
ftnnti,e4l'eet, -then nothing can prevent him from resuming
this hat th.rtt.---( Hear, hear cannot sit down without saving
`'se
by H?n. Member has rendered reat service to ate „ y the information he has afforded it on the present
f° hlr LAelan 1,
tQ
w{,rts\VSollo:\t'iliass
ganueindependent Member, wished to say a
°s 'tao this qucstion._( Hear, hear.) He thought
a*,hcl, th, e.re were so many points in the question,
Nes had 3een already very ably discussed, he should be
'thee `" confine himself to the general question, and become
forseerituatious than he had been accustomed to be. He had
Who übmitted the expression of his feelings to those
Isbow 1,, faun he was accustomed to look as his leaders ; but
e'ittoof. '`'und he was compelled to state his own opinions for
litiseofor•lloAtsto
lament
question of famine which had been brought
rho dune Rouse there on that side of the House
the sawdasonsitinoleof Ireland, as detailed by the
e4.rtod. Learned Member for Cork, who had displayed
Dolieji? good sense and good feeling in not having intermixed
°tight" In ha description of the moral condition of Ireland. It
fr to be co,
°rll tn 1
inehed whether he withdrawal ,of the gentry
tifliglibaendOht.ttoeignhdt,sisi rndeasuroltnwe;id be one of the consequences
measure, would not reduce
*shsh oceurraedmts: hirn"wa7ttitt"),::',la," Ireland. Another point
rchetry. If 'it should happen tha't sitzwahof capital from the
ain of gold to pay for the foreign
hurl orted into. this couatry reeohhould be a great
vhich would be
, then the like
it'll so lamented as having befallen Ireland calamityel,2 which had
d: gland. With respect to the potato crop, the pe,,pleeroefaltiseln ind
4D'ruled from year to year on its precarious ,existeneee andan
peop'le of
was the result ? It was a warning to the
I,t'ee. and to beware how they placed themselves in a similar
,e'arions position—to take care how they made the
eihr,,enderit from leer to year on the mercy of a foreign nation,
thieetatltht probably be actuated by hostile leelings, and if a
e'l'crald occur to 'prevent. their supply of corn, eople
Lent, t 'l4'd would be as off as the Irish Beatwer pre
t4ti°4, Ultt7i.tehlat possessing the same resources.. and commise_
4'ard 1422 he had had the great satisfaction of subscribing
"d What - Famine Fund for the people
eel, 'eland was called the
'4lty ice, Ile remembered with respect to that
rep ally
e,,,t the Government then possessed no. power to
'klaZn laws, as a temporary. expedient to relieve a terh-
Perie'dThat oi',,Y• The whole- sum subscribed was 300,000/,
nod ti'l,the t-; ita effect on the people of Ireland? At that
from °l
that ‘iire:3 of the people of Ireland was so great that
that if tiro .eht Hon. Baronet would have been frightened
e•°4s ri,etY, and have been induced to come down to
land I'l sentll' have introduced a similar extravagant measure
,dht „. The men Rut at that time there existed no fears of the
tabors-41 of ...?eY subscribed was expended in relieving the
ttcit .r.ers ute people, and in the employment of
`hichrt, eahaes,t.'he c instruction of public . works, and
thele tne 'lnc.! the supply of grain at home.
'agesatse"d the 4"ted measure would effect. The Hon. Member
that he')u."' for their patient hearing. and concluded by
;Nee,. 'relaret%)ohl never be a party to take any mean advan-
nt thll4'S of ,HY improperly interfering with her immense
llr, Sicily -efa'n' and hoped that she might long continue to
cioN_Great Britain.
Le senl.L then withdrew his amendment.
trst .1." JOHN` ADJOURNED DEBATE.
fiat' ierest - ANNERS felt- most anxious to promote the
isestl'e men'
,s of the vountr • fie was anxious to see the con-
thea°'iled ients which r); dat present in the country
p,evriteeallye`hreneteid
tete l'rietly "e harmPonei eace The Noble Lord
a misrepresentation which bad been un-
the Hon. Member for Lincoln on the
"tar" -11
"efitihd Prneew!ed to say that, in considering the
"realent id r:
1100se‘ •t hdad appeared to him that the
atiee4O was ent.er't f how a country like
tel't"nl'sinFe ll;e.nuev",.a.h to be supplied with food. W ithouo.t
sen eed""se with any of those hackneyed qu
toliti„),rtslanee„attn smith and Ricardo on this subject, he
'Re (i etoe. °ltinio sne of a great foreign writer '_ on
aket,o ltilae -"ha—the al President of the Cr:d-
ate:rotate n'etA,,l''° was opinion " ;hat no prudent Govern-
as soh :Mutate st, ;loot to take re per precautions for a regular
eel tlet PilY of corn,.he.Peau‘ nose the produce of the ground
fa; f ‘" all te •
'r ° as, a vicissitudes of the season, and was ne-
tee. tlhese„ti uncertain nature Corn was not a subject for
eure.:2se a°l competition.like wine and olives, fur with-
the 1,,m t'ould live. but 'they could not live without
Sestet:l:le ite!h“,,r°hle L9rd then neade another quotation from
eetee s, we- as to the wise proposition of the English
,s the len regulated the supply of fond, and fen-
hiAsB,, Npl,h, Peelde ate the
d t f foreign aid for
e and r pn en o
tie thee esso,en iq egretted that so able a
.writer
er.4 Unarti, this country. He had heard that it was
It pro th„ otry that the
opinion of all the statesmen of
refer at the nearly
e e„,arrie Corn-laws could be no longer retained.
Allier, to °rods! t le. duty of those who still thought that
1,•, ht theneeStiseet,
the''eitained to consider carefully the whole
11_ eria,,t_ corci Probabilities of a successful contest, and
14he, :el. it
w:_o definite conchisihn as to the course to
' tee
e'l7 his opinion that the effects of free trade
,Inciisp()%,,'oggerated on both sides, and tberefere he
"nose, It shoeie7 to entertain dispassionately an
y pro., CI,
r f.nr Loa rnanate from the Noble Lord opposite, the
tajeet 'senior fro
11etc YGo to the Right Hon. Baronet at the head
Bartow But fnt of serornent, whieh should have for its object the
tlat
op'eerttetih_inl discord which prevailed on this matter.
It "triporar.'uv; to be successful it must not be mad
I)!Nlo "ear b'ews, and on shallow and contradictory
Q"-iihinate ut great, broad, and general principles.
di!•lctiatte4o,ttbh.ro.,ege a
masytehtiefleedxppeadrieilnat of a teen rifled Cabinet, to
tee ,hi the t: 'ubmittedt,o the full disrnceunsstiotno
aaupdreumhiazirtee
nglish peo
• 4 might tr,eodleCtiheeeros)cralttrdmtanheennstuch a great
good and