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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
ROUSE OF LORDS, March 12.
Th© LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack
at Five o'clock.

POOR-LAW.
sThe Mar u: f WESTMEATH presented a petition
es. se, .S 0
o.tt temsele against the existing poor -law.
The Marquis of CLANCARTY presented a petition
t° the • time effect from other places in Ireland.
,_.Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from Mr.
Nathaniel Herbert, in the county of Herts, against the
Direct Northern Reilway Bill, complaining that the pro-
Posed railway would pass for a mile through his estate
and orchards and close by his dwelling house, and prayed
their Lordships not to allow the proposed Bill to pass
into a law.
The Marquis of WESTMEATII felt the greatest
gmPathy with every word that had fallen from the
oble Lord in reference to Mr. Herbert. There were
mil
toy other cases of a similar and even a more aggra-
ted nature in Ireland, and he hoped their Lordships
would take them into consideration, with a view to pre-
vent the evils complained of.
Lord BROUGHAM would, at a future period, move
filr a standing order, which would give to parties circum-
stanced as the petitioner was their expenses in opposing
blilway Bills.
Lord CAMPBELL thought the best course for the
Petitioner to have adopted would have been to bring his
teaeseri before a jury at Heats, and he would not only
have had compensation for the timber which had
ert cut down, but also damages for whatever other in•
d 14.9 he might have sustained.
„, THE IRISH PACIFICATION BILL.
The Earl of ST. GERMANS moved the further cone
"oeration of the report on the Irish Pacification Bill.
.i.Lord BROUGHAM would ob-erve, in reference to
;`,.°° amendment of his Noble Friend (Earl Grey), that
such a clause were to be made a part of the Bill, it
itt would be entirely inoperative, for it would be contended
Ireland that the house of a si, k neighbour was always
between the offender's house and that of the clergyman.
LORI) CHANCELLOR would move the read-
°f the 14 of the amendment, which he wished to be made part
The Clerk at the table having read the clause as
knaded,
OThe LORD CHANCELLOR said that the clause
tild require some slight alteration, namely, in reference
lthe applicatioe of the words "proof whereof,"
irWould have the word " whereof" so placed in
tui sentence as to make it apply to the " law-
tiiness of the occasion," of the absence of the
rtY from his house during theproscribed hours, and
>' °t to the "suspicious circumstances." The Noble Lord
the iloggested an alteration in the clause bearing on
mtimidation of witnesses, which, he said, only
ected the grammatical construction of the sentence.
MAGISTERIAL AUTHORITY.
:lEarl CLANCARTY said that, on a late occasion, he
I,ll,eaeoured to impress on the House the importance
Justices of the peace in Ireland, being entrusted with
`!v authority to compel witnesses to come forward and
eve information in cases where they were cognia int
es crimes being committed. On that occasion, he (the
"obis Earl) distinctly stated that such power did not east at present in Ireland, and that no person could he
oeeltlPelled to come forward and make a charge
14:supply evidence. In calling attention to
,_,t state of thiugs he was met by a Noble
Ll° opposite, who stated that he (Earl Clancarty)
eto Mistaken the law, as such power did exist with the
gistrltes to compel witnesses to come forward.
tigtv, that Noble Lord being, in his opinion, a very
41b1 and eminent authority on such matters, he
ed to know if a magistrate, on being informed
Y a,
policeman that a house had been burned
he its plundered, and that A or B were cognizant of
~,,"ols had the power to have arrested A or B with a
" to compel him to give evidence?—( Hear.)
h.Lord CAMPBELL replied that if there were not a
t,her authority than himself present, he meant the
k °Die and Learned Lord who sat on the Woolsack,
then
would wiliinelv answer the question. But he should
gees Content himself with advising the Noble Earl to
ee,i,',_ress his question to that quarter, where, he was
he:cull. it would be fuEy and fairly answered.—(Bear,
The-;mid laughter.)
and Earl of CLANCARTY said that by the Noble
hi; ',earned Lord (Lord Campbell) refusing to answer
utlTquestion, he had shrunk from the position he had
everingly maintained. What he (Lord Clancarty)
eotevstood from the Bill was, that the magistrates had
csiespower to compel witnesses who were cognizant of
ei to give evidence.
eerrhe
_? LORD CHANCELLOR said he had been re-
the vu to, but he did not think he was bound to answer
se,question
oed
steo STOURTON said that no language was too
Chiang to express his conviction that such a state of
by Oth which existed in Ireland should be put down
that ° Legislature. He was therefore desirous
of pull? impediment should be placed in the way
40110;4°g the measure. Still, he thought some exempe
for Pri 4111se b made in favour of those who were going
The eet, so that they might not be liable to arrest.
doebiya, ORD CHANCELLOR said that nobody could
at a man going from one street to another, and
wilmein..thea bed of sickness, was a perfectly lawful act,
vsetaerd STZeaning of the Act of Parliament.
tc:, guilty oftleßrTinaoeN, wished to know, if a man, other-
were to be found in the street,
Rig to a bed of sickness, would he be liable to be
Ittested ?
et;I:11,0 LORD CHANCELLOR said, of course a man
itt;',larstaidmecs.ommitted murder would be liable to be arrested
e report was then received, and the Bill ordered to
relid a tlard time to-morrow.
STATE OF IRELAND.
t
aso.4
t. GREY gave notice of his intention, on Monday
ofl'vtand generally.
move an address to her Majesty on the state

RAILWAY BILLS.
t4The 4 Earl of DALIIOUSIE movel the suspension of
send, third, and fourth sections of the 233 d stand-
tetZder, requiring Select Committees on Railway Bills
e. traffic evidence.—Agreed to
Tam Lordships then adjourned..

.OUSE OF COMMONS, March 12.
VelZite being only thirty-four Members at lour
the House was adjourned till to-morrow.
1:1 1,
''‘.IILIAMEN TAR Y DIVISIONS.

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. • •—e Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.)
~_• WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11.
Clerf, ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL.
,ttoptoll,t;:`l' Second Reading read; Motion made, and Question pro-
That. the Bill be now read a second time ."—Aineodment
v. 4 to leave out the word" now," and at the end of the Ques-
liatie. li the words " upon this day six mouths :"—Question put,
.klett `lle Word ' now' stand part of the Question." The House -.....
4111 p MAJORITY—AYES, 66.
1414,4,1'3'.11
At , •A. Fitzgerald, R. A. O'Connell, John
litz,, William Forster, Matthew Pakington, J. S.
NZ'No ~_
.....,obert Gibson, T. M. Pechell, Captain
ZTatter • Gisborne, Thomas Rawdon, Colonel
t‘!npTicitl• Graham, Sir J. Russell. L o'd John
liti;!:1114 ~Peter Greene, Thomas Som,rville. Sir W.
126e41',"'". Grey, Sir G. Stanstield, W. It.
otiktr,Zll, Hewitt Ilaw,s, Benjamin Stanton, IV. IL
kttjtrie, •‘,2.‘roseph Heath oat, John Strickland, Sir G.
Herbert, Sidney Tliornely, T.
tZ, Colonel How:x(1, P. 11. Trelawny, J. S.
)1,4%1% W. F. - Laseelles, IV. S. To:hell, henry
v,,,c.nrd, w. S.
Lockhart, A. E. Vane, Lord H.
621,4 T. V. Mackinnon, W. A. Warburton, H.
'11,3%4rt, C. T. M'Carthy, Alex. Wawa, JT.
k
ZIO b,
'l'•
31`Geachy, F. A. White, Samuel
Maims, It. I. Williams, W.
kibl'Pl,ll:Viscount "Mitealfe, Henry Wood, Charles
k,qiharward Morpeth, Viscount Wersley, Lord
k:414.1e! IL Norreys, Sir D. Wyse, Thomas
ietrt,iviani O'Brien, W. S. TELLERS.
Nth.
,roz, O'Connell, Daniel Escott, Bickham
O'Connell, M. J. Manners, Lord J.
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