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----...„...............................a.,......aa5eeeeeer and March in each of those eighteen years, and he
found
and that the average price ot the six 3 cars whilst
``laverY was in taie did not exce. d 275. and ~tans ne"-ce
per cent., whilst the average price- of the last tee y, 03 S
441°Unted tt) 375. per cwt. lie nail, ih. r. fore, stared the
!Ilse fairly to the House The Noble Lord hail sta°,ed
-chat 100.600 tens of suge:r could ho obt ii,ieJ feein the
West an I; but, . . Menai,.
---...a5, that he (Ie rd tleerge neearee)
tu 1,"-a6"' was an over sane uine caleulation of the produce
a" expected from that quarter. It had also be, n
tstated that large quantities of sugar would be had from
it° East Indies, but to that expectation he would reply
at the inhabitants of those territories were enormous
turnt3n3umers of sugar, and when it was cheap they Cf::ft-
ed the most of the produce, and 'scarcely ant of it
t.s most
to this countay.--(lfear, hear.) On the
',Orrery, when sugar was dear , tilts- all
it to he ea.
rard,l in considerable quats'atiere but net before. Now he
Wase_t on the authority af Messrs. Allan and Duppa, the
IT:l:merchants and sugar brokers of Calcutta, that in
tion allflirm"s exr'snt of territory, comprising a popula
afleee One b'andred millions of inhabitants, when
es.,^an"s-anntwerias. '`.4 the price of eight rupees the inhabitants
it t ea.,
Asa ex
~, a,esely, but when it was 11 or 11,12- rupees it
rterate of.,P its., and not betbre. This sle wed that the
• are's regulated the amount of exportation. He
tte. IL also on the authority of Messrs. Allan and
V ,PIPIIt as well as some others he had conversed with on 1
tr. subject, that the natives of the East had consumed
iiell less, in some years, than 500,000 tons of sugar, but
madt qtlantity in other years was reduer d by the price
b themand for it from this eountry. He was assured
i/ se who were best alelie to give him an opipiop upon
ue atiNeCt-thit there was every reason to - iippose that
belt
would
Year the impartation of sue from the East Indies
tear amount to 100.000 tons more than laq year.—
pee) Sllch, indeed, was the abundance of the
teicirett)it Reason that those why, had plsntations were
es._ Y their agents that the increased production of their
ki'ttrea ;Above that of last 3 ear would be no less t: a•! 3
yez!„,"ht, He had also other information on the subject
140,. which he gathered that several engi es of 242
bo-.7e Povver, and 15 engines of more than :80 h rse
-"e, were in the course of erection in a disl ict, which
..,e
41844 manufactured no sugar as. all. Atth s place this sugar manufactured last season war 2 000 t ins, but
9 ftYear the quantity was likely to be incised to
tru tons. Tea, was in a smell ',',istrict on the banks of
Sect, But he had other informati II on the sub-
/tie); He was told thet there was a company called the
who had just expended 70,0001. in
ivitehaestqrop,:sliatrcisuteC.lnotomd.,llo73%
engines for the manufacture of sugar
ias. The next letter which he received
conee ''' Bt; The
and was from a gentleman
deli, with the East India House ; it wa
uesir A in a familiar strain, and the writere;
It • '"1 that his name should be concealed don
P '"tts dated the 22d of May last. It state h
..1000/. he had cleared 1,300/. in a season ; hid built one
tllllttrstlear works, and was "well on" in a second. H
i," also' le d four tons of sugar from an acre,
-aich svaPsra"n"' immense crop. He was informed that
the native cane was no thicker than a man's finger ;
*while the Otahetan cane was as thick as a man's arm.
and was of a superior description in all respects. _ I.nie
.
Felt assured that if protection were continued, an d i
'ulleertients given to the British planters, a great.
'deal more capital would be invested in the cul-
tivation of sugar before the expiration of five years,
at which period it was proposed to reduce slave-
grown sugar to the level of British grown sugar ;
betore the expiration of those five years the pro-
duction and exportation would be largely increased.
-A letter from Mrtdras, whi, h he hal received from
Messrs. Scott an,' Bell, the largest sugar bakers in Lon-
don, stated that there could he no doubt that the quantity
of sugar this year from Madras would amount to 10,000
i.tooB, and there was evera- 'probability that the sugar
trotll 1111 d
, a ras would next year be 15.000 tons; and, judg-
littgffi.
efrunitmtothesapyr.oduction of the last three years, it was
what quantity would be produced in
Lure. He had stated on a former occasion that the
Produce of the ?Mauritius this year was 46.000 tons, and
nth what had not yet been shipped, it would amount tip
91,000 tons, It was no longer a matter of doubt that
`4llell Bangiline expectations of those who counted that
N slavery) was put an end to in the West Indies
Ilk free produce would double the amount Produced by
It ~.41 had been bitterly disappointed.—(Hear, hear )
eiti .was known that the heat of the climate relaxed their
leti„Nies, and even the negroes themselves could not be
so tred to work by the large wages which were offered
rttet,;,,,enl. He would submit to the House a comparative
tot,-.'"; eot of the produce of sugar by 300 slaves in
in t,"'"a, and the produee of sugar of 300 free labourers
tettiiee Mauritius. the statement came from the different
~ 1,50 a 3,' The produce of the 300 slaves in Lousiana ws,
\\\ oohs,- 'C'ts. and th. produce of the free labourers was 5,000
Aio What
ttri,;,._ with the. favourable climate and soil of the
Zert,, rs, Oral its being so well-adapted for the cultiva -
Ziatele 'vas clear it could successfully compete with those
Cte Itt,ttwho were obliged to employ free-labour, and
letera -4' so well situated in respect to natural
planters
041 a k_''t 'was not true that the West India
,2„Pdire,"ealtble to compete with the slave-labour of Cuba
t"oeo Wei 8, and. therefore he maintained that the colonies
. arty "0 obligad to employ free-labour were e_ntitle'l_
Ltigio, tketion. In estimating the probable produce of
L'e*.f'd'is In
Friend (Lord John Russell) did not
...- eta' s-thl state the quantity that might be expected
tletilaie Mauritius. He calculated that 240,000 tons
5.4„5t, 4,,-..4, iMported from the colonies, an 1 he expected
te'',o,.'4l what there was in bond, there would he
sj,'''ll. ':;', fins of foreiirt slave-grown sugir. and 20.000
`lV4toijairree-grown sugar—making a total importation of
'nit i,s''''' As he had already stated, the price of thtaetact);-,
Ilit
4. the East Indies. regulated the expwoars
fromi
• hi,. t's(l Caen then the freight to this country
-al int s° 61- 10s. Now the sugars from Brazil and Cuba, he
lelatelastine,fled could be imported for 30s. a ton, or at the
I"tanness, 105, So that independept of the advantage of
4'te of ill of freightage, the Brazils andr Cuba had the silvan-
tisst s'la labour. It was, there ore, impossible that the
iNd Ces Could compete with either Cuba or Br.azils. There
%Nil ~,e0 doubt that the eff.ct of the free importation of
e';',,nroi;" Cuba sugar would be to lower the p.rc .
this
Ad trim- of the British Colonies 6s. per ca t ~ andwith
Ic",his-,,Ln Price it would not pay the British 'dente!. to
otilfitiltliated'Ztter, in a state of cultivation. His Noble Friend
a e prey a. 280,000 tons would be required for the supply
its'lla:4l tohst ljear. Well, if they assumed that 180,000 tons
al7es, a:;', from the West Indies, 100.001 from the East
whre, 'ti 55,000 from Madras, the angregate woudmake
''" 111 2 000 But the greatest consumption
tad • *ilsi 80,- •
only 246.000 tons,
41, tt s country had experiened
I" IN W" Perfectly absurd, withwasth.e figures he had
at: sod before them, to say they requiredto let in slave-
article for the
t'eopie etflar! to insure a proper supply of that
It-41tit 14' this country. There was at the present moment e
% thce:siltoalt_
,d of 71.000. tons, which exceeded by about 10,00;1
thiaelett.
the
C.l/1 hand in th.e corresp..nding period of last year.
ilents
woeuticlebienereasei against the smaller amount, the state of
tafews net aware th same this year as they were last.
lett s le theeztaheattYtheree was such a want of our manufac-
e„ teaott,,, markets of the West Indies, for, according to the
s,.`liteture_!4,s, it. appeared that they were glutted with the ma-
-eteeti 301 this country.—( Hear, hear.) They. had alread
hi b the natives of the West Indies by their manufactures,
th I ene
k 41 -euragine the trade of Birmingham, Manchester, anti
ittatetetietoh.ttefa:zlg:Tsetrmic:ss On the grounds that he had la'
submit that his motion should be
NO liable -11,a would now come
_to the question of revenue.
MI t, . Friend calculated that bhi scheme as contrasted
9 let,.!'," of the Right Hon. Baronet,s the Ex- Chancellor of
ee/4",equer, he should gain no lessaithatno7f2st,hse29! .by the di f-
Right Hon
.letnisnlabrt'weert his proposal and
ifs Ron '.u., Really he was quite at aa.loss to understand how
He presumed that
115 1, -.Friend arrived at that conclusion. to .4in so
Mlt Many tons of British plantation sugar at 1.4.1. per
ello, would notproduce more than under the proposition of
~,,A Hon. e opposite. The effect of his Hon.
teata.,"s measure would be that as slave-grown sugar was ad-
Toreien,_,' at a lower rate of duty it would take the place of free
the -6. j. sugar. Qn these grounds, therefore, he was against
the Policy which was proposed. There was no just ground fer
4„, a teration in the sugar duties. Above all, in the last week of
tati'l, era on
half the members of the Huse of Commons
it %,,,gone out of town, it was not proper to bring forward such
he aeePing proposition. He had already shown that he had
' nro'estre to embarrass the Government.—( Hear, hear.) The
h1t,.1)" uld_not be increased at present, 5,..0 go
7 - tee pockets of the traziliark insteaddierChantsof into those
the English consumer. He had many communications
. -r°la oval engaged in the trade, which stated that they who
. were rieh now, should these measures paS3, would be in,
wvverished in a month. • He considered, therefore, that there
141.,„ftbt to be some justice—some mercy—shown
which coulc nottobe esreee:lM,
*thy had made e ag me
tqlsting to the fain:he nand honour of the Parliament. He re-
Oternbered that his Hon. Friend the Member for Sunderland
observed, that things were coming to such a pass that no man's
property was safe.—(Hear, hear.) He conjured them,
therefore, to be careful over the interests of those
Who had trusted them. 5 r it'ss on, in 1831, opposed the
taaar question as brought ii-, II
buithle then Chancellor of the
~xchequer. He (Lord George Bentinck) supported Mr.
quakisson in that opposition, but. he was defeated. He was
~,,ataistent in opposition, and he didthnenEt
nwish embarrass the
elis hopeople now to
Zit jernment. The
wouldquhesetionfor
have sugar two-thirds of a
i:11 ~ ;Ive'sassinwebve'erthye;')outndywith slavery, or sugar two-thirds. of
,to peon dearer with freedom. They would not hesitate
ebtageettle• The question was well put by the Ho.nour-
' kt-a- Dl The
for Cork—" Take a larger loaf with a
ti.,,"aE'r'a curse " and he would ask were the people of England
' hei,--; ,ef their exertions in the cause of freedom ?—( Hear,
eee',) bid the re ent the 20,000,000/. which they paid to
taZi-"e negryoes? He had never heard that such was the
aiiim Were the people of England aware that they main-
,a/r
t t 4/410 men and 7ao guns to put down the infamous
9' the t'', e? The Noble Lord then gave a frightful account
agar, ai,e,4t,nent of slaves employed in the manufacture of
,^, of ,),"'‘ 8441 that Mr. Buxton, when speaking, s!xteen yeard..
.00 000 •"e infernal traffic in slaves, stated that it consumi-,
f Pe I
• year, and that Lord Aberdeen, /mn-
ial _e„ teens i, one _
nu ' 14 the
A aab ~
or
siYear 1844, stated that in his opinion the average
-llierie. eves imported from Africa the Coast of South
. 1411°0.(47 and the Spanish West Indies,. was not less than
a- ear a bode a 3'. . He asked whether it was right that we
atitebee .ontinue to suffer the natives of Africa to be
the stead
and lashed to death for the purpose of enabling
44
pen st Lana planters to amass splendid fortunes?—( Hear )
'lstl.stiee,9l: 'ff Englaud wished to obtain their fooadr•swiltebtoutht in-
tat
,they were then to have the suhg ,
tate a., -nine the sugars in the remembrance t at the blood of
etlie;itre had been shed to obtain it.—(Cheers.) He did not
20,04 there was a man in England who grudged the
'ad h'°_,°O. l. he had lid for the emancipation of
.t. e slave,
e:
,ihielttebld not believeP they cared for the half-million
.mo
Fit ,1%,.., eountry had to pay annually for the suppression of
et...ie.-trade. It seemed to him that the arguments brought.
1184Ys, Tl'lvvre nothing more than the old argument,amehere it
may well be
~ki.:tt..d f_e ar_e to be hanged for a lamb,
Pe ple _.!!..astrep—(Laughter and c.heers)—wehat because the
14 to (1,1,7 .t-741e and have made the sacrifice, the; would continue
hats.ha" 20,000000/. had been paid during the last twelve
214,000,000 e besides, and half a million more every
had the suppression of the slave-trade. H
eset
aa trested
that the mighty sacrifice which they
taißh•", Zde, and which they wished to continue to make,
%ith the e accepted, and might be recorded above, side by sine
c't the eoidevs's mite, as the offering—the free-will offering—
% ..,3 °CO
t thlittie
this of generous warm-hearted Englishmen, who
,hrati. e great the virtuous, the religious, and the
mhal ~.-0 p.,aple whc: inhabit the British Isles. (The Noble
tae pta!,slhaed his seat amid loud and prolonge.: cheering from
has t,eu\eletiotist benches,)
• ' ' "LE LLD then moved the resolution of which he
Thetaan notice.
' ~. the.rh„relititio,...n having been read from the chair, .
on.,
Ita,,,Pregew."o.,s4A k-;LLOR of the EXCHEQUER. said that,t_ e wog ki, trieral4ttthe Noble Lord deserved sincerity for the
'lt -.44wararittis Luctoct hind la 4 taloa la

woul4 propose to follow, which was the supply of sugar and
the effect upon the slave trade by the introduction into this
country of save-grown sugar. The Noble Led had traced
the history of the sugar ques,.ion in all its details in a manner
which he could not undertake to equal. He stated that when
the East and West India colonies were not sufficient ,o supply
the country, he and his colleagues had opened fresh ports, and
he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) hoped to show
to the House that all the consideration which induced
the Government to introduce foreign Tree-14.bout sugar
into the ports existed at the present period. In 1843, the
consumption of sugar was less than in 1841. The ennstitiip,-
tion of last year over that of 1843 was 3%000 Whs. The price
et this ilAothent is higher by 4t. per Cwt. than in June last, and
the avenge of three pheertling'inentbs was bs. 3d. higher than
the preceding quarter. Mr. Gladstone had estimated the con-
sumption of free labour sugar at 20,000 tOps, whereas the
whale, in fact, instead of 20,000 was under 4,000 tons. Last
quarter the consumption of free labour sugar had been only•
118 ions, and in the five quarers preceding it had been only
4,113 tons instead of 20,000 tons. The amount of revenue
from tree labour sugar produced, ending sth April last, was
45,000. less than was est mated in the preceding year. He
believed that if the price of sugar was low, it was almost im-
possible to place a limit on the consumption of that article.
The quantity of sugar consumed had a:ways varied with the
price of sugar. The following table will show the effect of
the prices upon the consumption:—

In the year

Price.

840- ...... 48s. Od.

Con.umption
per head.

151bs.

11345

201bs.

1846
1846. 30th June, 365. 94d. f considerably less.
The great body of the people of this country consumed a con-
siderabSe quantity less than could he supposed. If every individual
in this country were to consume 20lbs. per head, the epnsump-
tion would be considerably greater than stated to be by the
Noble Lord the Member for Lynn. The total coesun ption in
this country for the year ending April 5. 1846, was 252,000
tons. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had taken
great pains to find out the amount of sugar likely to be im-
ported the highest amount he had received was 255,000 tons
He had received other estimates, such as 250,000 ions, 225,000
tons, 230,000 tons ; and the estimate he had received from an
Antwerp merchant was 220,000 tons. The Noble Lord the
Member for Lynn had said, that 240,000 tons would be im-
ported from the East Indies ; for the comfort of the West
India growers, he would say, that he did not think it at all
possible that such a quantity could be produced from the
East Indies. He, therefore, now showed that they could
not look to the East Indies for a supply, for the price of that
sugar would be as high, if not higher, than the present
prices. With regard to free-labour sugar, the highest
estimate of the importation into this country was 20,00
tons, but he thought the amount nearest the ti uth was
15,030 tons. The amount imported last year was only 4,000
tons. It was well known that the greater part of the sugar
from Java went into the Dutch market. But taking the whole
supply at 12.000 tons, the largest amount of colonial and free
labour sugar would not exceed 250,1:00 tons. What their can-
gumption would be next year he could not say, but his opinion
was, that if a larger supply were afforded to the people of this
country at a lower price, there would be a greater consumption
than at present. It was computed by all acquainted with the
sulijt c• that the price should be 455. per cwt. to give a con •
suielition. That quality of sugar was at present 50s. in the
market. His Noble Friend said a good deal about the rise of
foreign slave-grown sugar. It had already risen in the Con-
tinental markets, party owing to the deficiency of the crop
and partly owing to the anticipation of having
the privileges of importing it into this country. But
latterly it had fallen, even since these measures
were announced ; and he thought it very unlikely that it
would rise to any great extent. ( The Right Hon Gentleman
here read two letters from commercial firms, to show that. 21s.
was an amount of duty which would allow a large quantity to
come in. and bring down the price to such a rate as to allow
it to come into general consumption.) This duty would net
only, continued the Right Hon. Gentleman, bring in a larger
supply, but also reduce the price. The increase of consump-
tion last year was 42,000 tons ; and why they should not look
to a consumption proportionably great this year he could not
see. He bad now shown that the estimates of the Nobl.
Lord, as to supply, were too large, and his estimate of the
consumption ton small ; and he had also shown that by
fixing the duties at the rate of the proposed measure.
a proportionate increase in the consumption might be expected.
He would now speak of the question of revenue. The state of
the revenue up to the present year was prosperous, but he was
afraid they could not look so sanguinely to the future. He
was sorry to see by a circular from Manchester that stagnation
in the trade prevailed to a very great extent. His Hon.
Friend said on a former occasion that he would wish to know
what the income and expenditure of the years 1847 and 1848
would be, presuming this measure was in full operation.
He (the Chancellor of the Excheciuer) stated that.
deducting the China money from the income of this
year, th remainder would be 50,950,000/. and de-
ducting from the expenditure of this tear an item which
might not occur again, an item of 200,000., the income
would be 50,673,0001. at the present moment. But, adding to
that, the expenditure necessary for the maintenance of the
fresh constabulary, namely, 175,0001„ and adding 283,000'.
for purposes of a similar nature--adding one half-year',
expenditure for the maintenance of the Poor-law establish-
ments and officers in the country ; also one half-year's ex-
penditure for the prosecution of prisoners, and for their main-
tenance when convicted ,for which purpose one half
year's expenditure only had been voted in the estie
mates for this year, and for which it would be ne-
cessary to vote a whole year's estimate) supposing that
the expenditure would be the same as it was estimated by the
Right Hon. Gentleman , opposite, there would be added ti
next year's estimates 628,5001., making in all a permanent
expenditure of 51,302,0001., and leaving, supposing the
income and expenditure to be made as he had stated, a defi-
ciency of 352 0001. That being solved the House would see
how necessary it was that from some source or another addi-
tional means of income should come. He did not see in the
course of the past sessions any such prospect of reduction ce
expenditure as would justify the cabinet in believing that it
would not be necessary to provide additional resources. Let
them look at the estimates. Let them compare the estimates
of the last ten years, from the year 1835 to 1845, and they
were not es irnates prepared by any gentleman on that side 0,,
the Hous. He took the year 1845, because it excluded any in-
crease maJethie year. and which the Hun. Member for Coventry
seemed inclined to put demi for next year. Let them compare
the expenditure of 1845, and they would find in the charges
on the consolidated fund, that other duties had increased
492,000/. The expenditure of the army, the expenditure of
the navy, and the ordnance had increased 4,700,1,001 The
increase on miscellaneous services had been 582,0001., so that
the whole increase between 1835 and 1845 had been no les-
than 5,081,0001. He confessed that he did not see any disposi
lion or tendency in the estimates of the present year te
reduce that expenditure, especially with reference to the
ermy. He did not think that, when they considered the
hardships of the colonial service for our soldiery, the in-
crea-e of our colonies, and the necessity of providing means of
defence for China and Nes Zealand, that they could set
any probability, with justice to the soldiery, of diminishing
the numbers of the army, which was at present exposed to ser-
vice such as no other army in Europe was enduring.—( Hear.
He did not think, in common justice to the soldiers, and the
maintenance of protection to :he colonies, that he could sug-
gest any reduction of the standing force of the country. Tie,
Hon. Gentleman, the :Member; for Tavistock, wished to put
down corporal punishment, and another Hon. Member sale
that it would be necessary to increase the pay of the army ; antl
there were various other means of expenditure suggested.
which rendered it impossible to reduce the expenditure of the
military establishment. It was impossible to reduce the expen-
diture ceused by the steam-vessels, and other classes of ships
with which it ha s-been thought necessary to increase the navy,
and which caused additional expense. An Hon. and Gallant
Member was anxious to increase the provision for worn-out
officers; it might be necessary to increase the pay for active
service in the navy—the new ordnance and the improvements
in gunnery required a large expenditure, as it was necessary
to have very heavy guns. A large amount of expenditure
might, before long, be incurred in providing harbours of re-
fuge for the steam-vessels which had been lately built. He
had been in hopes that more had been done than he hae
found executed, though he knew that there had been great
obstacles in the way of improvement. It would be absurd ti,
attempt to conceal from the House the necessity of consi-
derable expenditure upon that head. In the fortification of
the coast and the colonies the introduction of steam navigation
had ir volved the necessity of a great expense, for they were
no longer safe as they were before from- sudden attack,
and it was, therefore, necessary that the forces of this
country should be put in a state to repel invasion.
He did not exactly mean invasion, but those inroads and
attacks to which it was impossible for this country to submit
and which it would be impossible to repel without taking
proper means of fortification. He had come to the miscellaneous
estimates. The increase in them was of such a nature that
he was sure that the House would be willing to pay the tax
required for the purpose. There were many other subjects of
improvement pressed on by various Memhers of that House,
involving the necessity of an increased expendittire under that'
head. There was one subject which weighed very heavily on
his mind, and that was the necessity of providing in some way,
for secondary punishment in this country. The evils and
expense arising from transportation
nothing of had alread
they m
been full
but hy
entered into, and he would say ; e
thought that in some way it seas necessary to provide for the
inflicting of secondary punishment, and that could not be
done effectually without a large expenditure. Under all
those heads be was afraid that they must look forward to an in-
creased expenditure—at any rate they could not look for any
reduction, but rather to an increase, for which it was absolutely
necessary to provide adequate sums. Mr. Gladstone, when his
Noble Friend brought forward his resolution against the re-
duction of duty on sugar, paid that he was at a loss to conceive
what his Noble Friend could say, rendering it likely that the In-
come Tax could be removed, or that any measure could be
suggested to avoid its renewal. He (the Chancellor of the
Exchequer) thought that his Friend showed no very extra-
ordinary foresight in saying that he did not think it probable
that the Income Tax could be removed at the end of three
years. It was said a year and-a-half ago, that it could be re-
moved, and in the second year there was a surplus of some
3(10,0001 , and now, he was sorry to say, that even with its
continuance, a deficiency of 350,t 00/. was to be apprehended ;
and therefore his Friend was justified in saying that the pro-
bability of its being taken off was small. He did
not know how far the resources of the country might
go ; or how far, under the increased development of industry
which would be occasioned by measures which had passed this
sessions. they would progress, he did not pretend to say ; but
this he said, that looking to the present state of the revenue
and expenditure—to entertain any view, however distant, of
removing the Income Tax—to indulge its that hope. it was
most essentially necessary to increase the sources from which
the income of the country was derived, in order to maintain
the credit of the country for the payment of her debts 'to those
establishments necessary for her honour and her name. He
did not know if he should make any further statement on the
sugar question, because he depended on an increased con-
sumption of sugar. Let them take 240,000 tons at
14'. per cwt. duty, and that would give 3,460,000/. ;
and if they gave 15,000 tons for free-labour at 21s.
per cwt.. it would give an addition of 315,000/., making
3.775,000/. That would, however, only be 255,000 tons
of sugar ; but be hoped to get 209,000 tons of slave-grown
sugar, which would raise the sum to 4,195,000 i. If, as be was
inclined to hope, they would have a supply of slave-grown
sugar beyond all the colonial supply, of 30.000 tons, and wh ch
he believed they might have, they should have an income of
4.405,0001. He hoped ha had now disposed of the two first
branches of his Noble Friend's argument, and .ho would pto-
ceed to the est, which bad reference to the raising' and •
couragement of slave grown sugar, and which his Friena had
stated with so much pathos. It was to increase the consumption
of sugar, and to benefit the revenue, that it was expedient to
adopt the measures proposed by her Majesty's Government,
and he did not think that they would have obtained either of
these objects if they had not gone so far as they had done. It
would not only provide as large a supply as the sugar pro-
ducing world could afford, but it would produce as
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running so great a risk as that. He did not believe that
duty, there was then sugar enough to create, at 108 any-
thing like the revenue he anticipated from the present
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