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which the Noble and Learned Lord alluded, namely, the
expediency of extinguishing the Welsh language. To
this he must say he was entirely opposed ; any attempt
to do so in respect to the Church service in Wales would
in his opinion, only tend to drive the whole po, ulation
of Wales into the arms of some other religious sect. It was
absolutely essential for the wellbeing of the C,.urch in
Wales that every minister in that establishment ought
to be familiarly ♦ersed in the language and even the
habits and manners of the people of that country. Of
all the causes which had tended to depress the Church
in Wales, there was not one which had operated more
fatally than the defect pointed out by his Right Rev.
Friend.
The Bishop of LLANDAFF, baring replied, with-
drew his motion, and their Lordships then adjourned at
a Quarter to Eight o'Clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, May 19.
The SPELKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lords' amendments to the Dover Landing Pier
Bill were considered and •greed to.
The Great Yarmouth Coal Duties Bill was read a
third time and passed.
The reports to the following Bills were considered
and agreed to:—
Henesge's Divorce Bill.
Lanark and Hamilton Court House and County Rates

Bill.
Queensferry Passage Bill.
The second reading of the New Ross Port and Har-
bour Bill was postponed till Monday.
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Mr.w EigWan.ART presented a petition to the same effect
from
Mr .Cr ChurchesßAlGprese two petitions in favour of
the Sites for
Several petitions were presented the sale of
intoxicating drinks on t
Mr. REYNOLDS presented a petition in favour of
the Dublin Improvement Bill.
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Sir B. HALL.
Learned Gentle-
man the Member for Nottingham in his place, wished
NATIONAL
to put a question to him in reference to a Bill he had
brought in for the purpose of amending the Friendly
Societies' Act, but virtually to legalise a scheme of which
he was the chief promoter. Since the Bill had been
introduced he had looked over it, and had had some
conversation with parties who were interested in it, and
this conversation had convinced him that it was necessary
that the measure should be inquired into. It would be
competent for him on the second reading of the Bill
to move that it be referred to a Select Committee, but
they it would be understood that the House approved of
the principle of the Bill, and the Committee would only
have power to inquire into its clauses. Now, in the other
House of Parliament the case was different; there the
Committee had power to inquire into the whole subject,
and he would venture to suggest to the Hon. and Learned
Gentleman that, instead of the Bill being read at so late
a period of the session as the 14th of June, it would be

much better that he should move fora Select Committee
to inquire into the nature and object of the scheme pro-
posed to be legaliaed by this Bill.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR said, in reply to the question of
the Hon. Baronet, he presumed upon his moving the
second reading of the Bill it was the intention of the
Hon. Baronet to move that it be referred to a Select
Committee.

Sir B. HALL—No, it is not.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR said, at all events the object of
the Honourable Baronet was the same as his own. The
Honourable Baronet was anxious for inquiry, and he
(Mr. Feargus O'Connor) was desirous that the most
searching investigation should take'place into the object
of the scheme. He had introduced the Bill for the pur-
pose of relieving himself from the responsibilities of
manager of the undertaking, and it was his intention to
nominate as trustees under the Bill the Noble Lord the
Member for Bath, the Hon. Member for Rochdale, and
Lord John Manners, being the three gentlemen in whom
the working classes had the most confidence, and who
would be empowered to investigate the affairs of the
society, and to ascertain whether the funds had
been properly managed. He understood, however,
that the Right Honourable Baronet the Secretary of
State for the Home Department, who was good enough
to allow the Bill to be read a first time without dis-
cussion, intended to oppose the second reading, and that
if he found that were so to-night, he would adopt the
suggestion of the Hon. Baronet who had put the question
to him, and give notice that he should move the appoint-
ment of the Committee on an early day.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition from
Rochdale complaining of some clauses of the Health of
Towns Bill, although favourable to the general principle
of the Bill itself.

Mr. SMOLLETT presented a petition from Ayrshire
against the Diplomatic Relations with Rome Bill.
Lord ASHLEY presented several petitions in favour
of sanitary reform; and also one praying the House to
pass a measure to remedy the abuses in the existing
poor-law.
Mr. H. BERIBLEY moved for a return of the nature
of the Post-offiee service between Dover and Ostend,
Dover and Calais, and Dover and Boulogne, distinguish-
ing, with regard to Bich service, the number of British
vessels employed, their tonnage, and the power of their
engines, the gross and net expenses incurred, the number
of passengers carried, the rate of passage-money charged,
the average length of time employed in the voyages, the
longest and shortest time employed therein, the fixed
hours of departure for and from each port, and whether
that departure is from the roadstead or the harbour,
and how often from each during the last twelve months.
—Agreed to.
Sir DE LACY EVANS asked the Secretary at War
when the Committee, to whom the army, nary, and
ordnance estimates have been referred, may be expected
to report their opinion to the House, so that these esti-
mates may be taken into consideration, together with
the report thereon, should the labours of the Committee
be brought to a close during the present session. He
also made an inquiry concerning the distribution of the
loeg-delayed Peninsular medals.
Mr. F. MAULE (who was most indistinctly heard)
was understood to say that it was not likely that the
investigations of the Committee would be brought to a
close for some time to come, as they had not completed
the first part of their inquiry, namely, that into
the navy. With respect to the medals, some delay
had taken place in completing them, in consequence
of the person to whom they were entrusted having
met with a severe accident ; he hoped, however,
that but a short time would elapse before their distri-
bution.
Sir DE LACY EVANS inquired if it was true that
50,000 claims had been decided upon ?
Mr. F. MAULE was understood to say that 18,000
was the number. .

Lord HOTHAM complained that the Committee had
not periodically reported the progress of its inquiries
to the House, and that the information hitherto supplied
had not been sufficiently ample and explanatory.
Mr. F. MAULE replied that the Committee in
making the reports had used their discretion as to the
evidence which it was desirable to lay before the House
for its information.
THE LAND SCHEME.

Mr. O'CONNOR stated that since he had replied to
the question of the Hon. Baronet the Member for Mary-
lebone (Sir B. Hall), he had had some conversation
with the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir G. Grey). He now
begged to give notice that on Tuesday next ho should
move the appointment of a Select Committee to inquire
into the plan.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.

On the motion of Mr. PARKER, the House at its
rising was ordered to stand adjourned until Monday.
BOROUGH GAOLS.

Mr. FREWEN inquired of the Right Hon. Baronet
the Secretary of Stet() for the Home Department, if it is
the intention of her Majesty's Government to bring in
any Bill this session to prevent corporate towns, or
other small jurisdictions, from making use of their gaols,
unless they are fit and proper places for the confinement
of prisoners? He asked the question because on a
recent gaol delivery thirty-seven prisoners were placed
in one cell.
Sir G. GREY replied in the negative. If the authori-
ties entrusted with the management of these gaols
neglected their duty, they ought to be punished under
the Gaol Act.

HEALTH OF TOWNS BILL-FEVER IN WEST-

MINSTER.
On the motion that the House do now resolve itself
into a Com!pate!, on the Health of Towns Bill,
Sir R. INGLIS wished to set right a statement which
had been made the other night by the Hon. Member
opposite (Mr. Frewen) relative to fever, which he had
stated to exist in the neighbourhood of the Chapter of
Westminster, in consequence of experiments that had been
making of some deodorising fluid. He had made inquiries
upon the subject, and h e had ascertained that no case of
fever, with the exception of one, had occurred in that
part of Westminster to which the Hon. Member had
alluded. He was informed that Westminster was never
in a more healthy state with respect to its inhabitants
than at the present moment.
Mr. FREWEN had made the statement upon the au-
thority of several gentlemen who had called upon him
from the board of guardins of the parishes of St. John
and St. Margaret's, Westminster. and those gentlemen
were only anxious that the mode of proceeding he had
adverted to, if it had been productive of the results he
had been informed it had, should be put a stop to. If he
had made an erroneous statement, he was sorry for it.
After some observations from Mr. HENLEY and Sir R.
INcus, the House resolved itself into Committee on
the Bill, Mr. Bernal in the chair.
Lord MORPETH proposed that a proviso should be
added to the third clause to the effect that the General
Board of Health should continue only for five years.
The clause so amended was agreed to.
On clause 6 being proposed,
Mr. HENLEY asked what the salaries of the Com-
missioners would be ?
Lord MORPETH said it would net exceed 1,5001. for
the Commissioners, while the salary of the Secretary
would be the same as that paid to the Secretary of the
Commons Enclosure Commission.

After some further discussion the clause was agreed to.
Clause 7 was then proposed—that, upon the petition
of not less than fifty inhabitants, householders, the board
to direct an inspector to visit and inquire.
Mr. MILES suggested that thirty inhabitants would
be sufficient to join in a petition.
After some discussion the Government consented to
compromise the matter by limiting the number to one-
tenth of the inhabitants, and the clause was then agreed
to and passed,