The Sun.
London, England, 1848-08-25 00:00:00

25, 1848.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, August 24.
DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS w-rrii THE COURT

OF ROME BILL.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Sir J. TYRELL believed that the House of Commons
was sitting at the present late period of the year in
consequence of the lung speeches of the Hon. and
Learned Member for Youghal, added to which it was
popularly considered that the Noble Lord the M. tuber
tor London was not indisposed to protract the session.
It was also generally considered that it was the intention
of the Government to rule Ireland through the Bishop
of Rome, and that, he believed, was the reason for the
introdue,ion of th.s Bill. (The Hon. onet here
a letter he had reeeived from friend in Ireland,
which contained severe reflections on a Roman Catholic
priest at Rename River.)
Mr. JOHN O'CON.NELL rose to order.
Sir J. TYRELL said that the Hon. Gentleman was so
seldom in the House that he was probably ignorant now
of its rules.—(Laughter.) lie thought the best course
for the Hun. and Learned Gentleman to adopt would be
to return to Conciliation Hall.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL—I intend to do so.—(Laughter.)
Sir J. TYRELL, after some further observations,
stated his determination to oppose the further progress
of the Bill.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, if the Hon. Member for
Youghars statements were unintelligible, those of the
Hon. Baronet were far more so. 'rho Hen. Baronet
not having a villa at Richmond, which he considered it
a crime for him (Lord John Russell) to have—(Laughter)
—could not attend the discussion on the second reading
of the Bill, and he wanted now to he.ve that discussion
renewed; and therefore it was that I:4e opposed the com-
mittal of the Bill, while he asked, with the same breath
what were its objects. The Hon. Baronet had read
letters that recommended the extermination of the
Catholic priests in Ireland. For his own part, he be-
lieved, and it must be known to many, that the Roman
Catholic clergy had used the utmost exertions to prevent
their flocks from joining in the late rebellion in Ireland.
He deprecated the course adopted by the Hon. Member
for Youghal and the Hon. Baronet, and trusted that the
House would not hesitate to go into Committee on the
Bill.

Mr. R. SPOONER opposed the committal of the Bill,
believing that they had not been dealt fairly with by her
Majesty's Government with respect to this Bill. He
thought this was an occasion on which they ought to tell
the Government that they had deluded the Members of
the House with respect to this measure. It was an
attempt to force, in a most unconstitutional manner, this
measure upon the House. He would put the Noble
Lord to the test of his consistency upon this measure.
He asked him to delay the measure for a week, have a
call of the House upon it, and if Hon. Members did not
respond to that call he could assure the Noble Lord he
should have no factious opposition from him.
Lord J. RUSSELL denied that he had taken the
House by surprise in persevering in the Bill.
Mr. MACGREGOR would cordially support the fur-
ther proceeding with this Bill in all its stages, notwith-
standing the uncalled for, and, as he believed, the impru-
dent opposition that had been made to its further
progress.

- Mr. FORBES opposed the committal of the Bill.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL had been charged with being
absent from the House. He admitted that he had been,
but the reason for his being so was his anxiety to do
all in his power to preserve the peace of Ireland—
(Hear, hear) —and he believed that there were very few
Members present who would not be ready to admit that
he had done all in his power to accomplish so desirable
an object. He opposed the further progress of the
Bill as paltry and impolitic.--(Hear, hear.) With-
out the intrigues proposed by the present Bill the
present Government might govern Ireland satisfactorily
if they would only do justice to Ireland. He believed
that the Sovereign Pontiff of Rome would not accept the
measure, but should he unfortuately be persuaded to do so
it would be rejected by the whole of the Catholic popu-
lation of Ireland. The Government might depend upon
it, if they alienated the Catholic clergy of Ireland from
the people, the worst results would follow, and as evidence
of that he might state that in those parts of Ireland
where the late disturbances had taken place the clergy
were estranged from the population. He could not con-
sider the opposition factious that was put forth to prevent
the further progress of the Bill.
Lord DRUMLANRIG supported the further progress
of the Bill, believing that its passing would be produc-
tive of the best results. He supported the Bill be-
because he wished to act in conformity with the two
undoubted champions of the country, common justice
and common sense.--(Hear, hear.)
Sir C. BURRELL had such objections to the Bill,
that he was determined to give it every opposition in his
power.

Sir R. INGLIS then moved that the debate should be
adjourned, and stated that if he succeeded in that mo-
tion, he should move that it be adjourned to Wednesday
next.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL had no objection to the de-
bate being adjourned, but could only consent to its being
adjourned to half•past five o'clock.
Sir R. INGLIS then moved, as an amendment, that
the debate should be adjourned to Wednesday.
The House divided on the motion, when there ap-
peared—
For Sir R. Inglis's amendment ... 28
Against it
Majority against the amendment ... —45
The debate was then adjourned till six o'clock.
Sir J. TYRELL wished to know if the Government
intended to bring the priests to WllOlll he had alluded to
justice for hiving torn down the Lord-Lieutenant's
proclamation.

Lord J. RUSSELL said that such matters were left to
the discretion of the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, and if
the Hon. Baronet sent the necessary proofs to his Ex-
cellency, there could be no doubt proceedings would be
instituted.

SUPPLY.
The report on the Committee of Supply was then
brought up and agreed to.
BANKRUPTS' RELEASE BILL.
This Bill was read a third time and passed.
POST-HORSE LICENSES (IRELAND) BILL.
The Committee on this Bill was postponed till after
the other orders of the day were disposed of.
POSTAGE ON NEWSPAPERS (CHANNEL
ISLANDS).
The Committee on this Bill was postponed until the
other orders of the day were disposed of.
DISTILLING FROM. SUGAR BILL.
The Committee on this Bill was postponed until after
the other orders of the day were disposed of.
RENEWABLE LEASEHOLD CONVERSION

(IRELAND) BILL.
The Committee on this Bill was postponed till to-
morrow, at twelve o'clock.
TRANSFER OF LANDED PROPERTY (IRE-
LAND) BILL.
The report on this Bill was received, and the Bill
was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow, at twelve.
BATTERSEA. PARK BILL.
This Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be
committed to-morrow, at twelve o'clock.
LOCAL ACTS BILL.
The report on this Bill was received, and the Bill was
ordered to be read a third time to-morrow, at twelve.
SLAVE TRADE (EQUATOR) BILL.
The Committee on this Bill was ordered to be pro-
ceeded with atter the other orders of the day were dis-
posed (BMiIUIS
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DUBLIN POLICE BILL
This Bill was ordered to be read a third time after
the other orders of the day were disposed of.
FEVER (IRELAND) BILL.
The report on this Bill was received, and the Bill was
ordered to be read a third time to-morrow, at twelve
o'clock.
WESTMINSTER IMPROVEMENTS BILL.
This Bill went through Committee, and the report
was ordered to be received to-morrow, at twelve o'clock.
MONEY ORDER BILL.
The Lords' amendments to the Post office Money
Order Bill were considered and agreed to.
The House adjourned at Four to Six o'clock.

The House resumed at Six o'clock.
CHELTENHAM ELECTION.
Sir WILLIAM CLAY brought up the report of the
Cheltenham Election Committee, declaring Mr. C. F.
Berkeley to have been unduly elected, and the election
to be a void election.

POOR REMOVAL (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. CLEMENTS stated that it was not his intention
to persevere with this Bill, and the order for its committal
was directed to be discharged.
PETITIONS.
Sir C. LEMON presented a petition against the re-
moval of the duties on copper ore.
Mr. MUNTZ presented a petition from the
Reform League of England, praying for Par-
liamentary reform, and complaining that many
of the evils the country was at present suffering from
arose from a defective Parliamentary representation of the
people. The petition also prayed that the House
would be pleased to address the Throne, praying that
her Majesty would not prorogue Parliament till the
House had provided means to remove the distress which
prevailed throughout the kingdom.
Mr. WAKLEY presented a petition from the
medical officer of a union in Pembrokeshire,
complaining of the conduct of the Poor-law
Commissioners. The Honourable Member also
presented a petition from four medical men of Worthing,
praying for the abolition of the Act of Charter to the
College of Surgeons.
VAN DIEMEN'S LAND.
Mr. ANSTEY withdrew his notice of motion respect-
ing Van Diemen 's Land till next session.