The Sun.
London, England, 1807-08-08 00:00:00

• INDIA.

Mr. DUNDAS rose, pursuant to notice, to move
a•Romilati6n pledging the Llouse to. take,into consi.•
&ration, eary iu 'the next Sesston,,,the Accounts
ye:at; ve 16 the Reyeoue, Charges, 'and :Commercial
Concerns-'oftlie-East-Itidia Company, presenied on
the tutlt and. tth June last, r onimo,nly. called,. the
Ac•-.7outits of the ,East,lndia43udgek.- It ,would be
iMpossible in. the ;present Session. to give to ibis
subject the ample consideration. to which. it was
titled, and therefore he thought it better to, post'
pone the statement and discussion till the next SeS-
• •
Y)ltct tome,' observations ..froin Mr. Cszhvev,
:who reserved to himself the right
,o going far-
-4 her •pin titulars t the.intre•tlast India .'Accounts,
'commonly called thelndia Budget, the: Resolutions'
were.agreed •to. •
, tau r,te•Motion of lqt.fltibioAs-,..setieral additional
Papers, illustrative of the cc nnuct'of the Govenunen t
pi' India towards the Polygars, were ordered, with
the design of giving the fullest and fairest view of
the Tolygar question.
Mr. cilgEllY stmcll, that when the Polygar
ettestion shun! 'come oo to
,t:re discussed, he meant
`iii.:•ititood Ulm the ciiil,lo of the ...British ooVern-
rmi:l to the Polygars had" been the cause of the Mu.;
tioy Vcilore ; of the regiments concerned;
the 2,i battalion of the ead Native. Infantry, .haling
,been ref:roited:in tire Polygar country. • •On the pro-
Inise of the Right Hon.. Gentleman. (Mr, Dorida) to.
bring forward such Act..punt:l wi hAI been•or should •
recen ed on that. subject; and ~from a wish to
• await tht! arrival of those most apterially interested,
in t !le transaetion, he shoat! nornovfoifer the nfo-
tion of which he bad gi% en notice for this day, He.
11,)%vel.(1-, g.tv, • DA it!e; that early in the ensuing Ses-
he shouln move th:e. ti.t.re be laid betbre the
:House (..:Opis. of. alt ,Letters written by .Marquii'
corusx4llis, oil the flubject •of. . Trea- ties concluded by Mailpi, Wellesley, and generally.
on the Administration of India by that Noblernart.
..a.t:sE,5sED TA(Es. • •
The. 01141,ICEL401‘ of the . EXCHEQUER
rose pur,tiant to notice, to move .It 4 leave to bring in
' St Bill for the, b,,tter Rerulating The Colleaion of the t
As,ealed 'rases. As•tile Bill was to lie river for con-
sicteration till 'the next Session he did not think it
Tier:o:44y to troublo the •House by entering into its
details. Oneparticttlar 411 eration in the existing prat;-7
tics be thought it ttecess'ary •to notice. This was to
divide the clvties of the Commissioners,. and to trans-
. fer them, SC) tar as they were tninist4iali to. the.su-
berdinale Officers. Wl,ll respeet to the colledion of
the mites, it was intende,l, as no min could' objeCt-
'• to the payment of the taxes incident to the • re,
turn he should give in, to authorize the colleaien
'Of the taxer:; to' that amount immediately; ieaving
the:. -taxea 'upon surcharges to abide the •decisions
upon the questions wish.* out of them.' There was
at present this'evil, that the collee:tion of the taxes,
so far as they 'Were certain and Intquestionahlei:,as
thy were On the returns. made t the. individuals
ta,:ed, was. cuspended till- the validity. of the 'sur-
charges, which were uncertain, et as deciaed.
thought it necessary-to point out this material, alien-
tion to particular attention; preparatory to the fur-
ther conjdeiation in toe enSuingSesslon,
• Mr, B A idlitall Ng. 'tidied a remedy coulcllie 'pro-
Sided for the great grievant es that.arese out of 'wt..:
eharges. Tlfe bff finding redress'in cases-
of I,exatious surcharge was often ,veryreatand
sometimes it amounted to an ribsoluteimpossibility,,
He had himself' obtaithd redress of such surcharges
rmtie upon 'him, but it was with great diffieulty ;
• and in siKoe instances be knew several other
persqns to have totally-failed. • -
. The ettANCELOR Z.:VC ,be-
,
1.140 d, that ,the Commissioners of' '11%,..s did every
thing in power to a tacilityof (I,:ci,icn hi cases
of. appeals on
.surcharge, and redress itt .cases
vex al ious ILirge ; bait if any. me,ms. of kreater
)11 t 'flew ,heads pointedifloti,
•teo,.ild be happy to give his raid in carrying their'
etreei.
Mi. SMITH (of-Norwich) expresse I a fi.ar that
.
if any part ofthe'duries of the Comm;s,ioners should
transferred to inferior officers, the powers so trans-
ferred would be liable to abuse, Hu feared this was

'but a ifep to the transfereof the detiee; of Commis-
sioners under the Property Tax' Aa to CoMmis-
sioners paid by Geyertuneat, a measure which would
leacrlo.the introdualou:of vexations withouenum-
bor. Great oppreasions were felt already from
surcharges made, eot from, the motive of doing'jtee
tiee to the mu-n. 11114,, leteefrueuzigy to the personal__
profit of the. persons making thew.
Mr'. lIVSKISSON said; .it was not intended to
tale away the~ powers now.exercised by: the. coin.-
missioners"; but merely to euthoristethecolledion of
the undisputed duties on the returns originally made,
Without awaiting the deeiSion of the CoMmissioners
on the duties contested in the way of snrcharge. on
appeal. 'lt *as impossible to obtain the supervisibh
which :was frequently, necessary. without all Owing
some interest to the person Whe.deteeled the fraud :
but when the surcharge was groundless the Commie-
sinners were always ready to afford relief, and when
it 'was vexatious to inflict puniAment.'.
MOO,FLE hoped, that while the colleEtion
of the revenue was thus facilitated, measures would'
also be taken to regulate and restrain the expenditure
of the .Sums collided. The Reports on the table
pointed out great sayings in all the principal public
departneeits ; and if Government should not take
measured to carry these savings into eifea, he should
feel it his duty,. al the Representative of a Consider-
' able City, instructed by his, Constituents, to say, that
they were ready to support the-dignity of the Crown, •
and the honour and interests of the Cow/my, to their
lasi shillityl • but, at thesaine time, that thi.ty were
sensible of the justice, of their claim to a striel eeo-
nomy ; he should, under these eircumstauces, feel it
his duty to. (unless the rethrmS pointed out should be
made), de. Itia ntLnoit -to guard against the existing
profuseness,* voting less money in the first instance,
. CTIANCEILLOR of 'the AXCH6QUER
agreed tharit was the;duty of the lien. Ge nt.etuan
to point out any excesses that he seeposed to exist,
and any reforros he thought could be, wide itt the
public expenditure ;
.and ate assured toot, that ‘lrea
tiler tie: should do him the honour to makeeste h emu-
munications to hhn privately, as to are, individual, or l
publicly.iti.that House, aetb a Member of his ,Ma-
testy's Government, he should receive the sugges-
tions with respeO, and consider them who attention,
though certainly his finitleid(iptien,ot the .FlOo. Gen-
tleman's ideas would depend. on the coincidence, of
his own judgment with, them. • At present he 'must
say, be was: et a foss to conceive what Report the
lion: alluded to,. or what: great Saving
Was-pointed out Os clearly praetieable, and not exe-
cuted ; and he in* -say he did not think Thera was
any room for such an opition,.whieleit wasalelusive.
nod illitil:TOUS to hold forth to the public. •
41/00 LE seid, 'he allteled teirticularly to the
Reports, of the Naval .aied Military Departments,
'which pointed out. the pral:ticabiliiy ot-savings to the
ametint of frOm, five to ten millions annually,.
Sir TEI 77/43 TON put it to his "MajestY's
Mihisters;ta'cousider the tiJeessity and the means of
affording- a more immediate relief to the persons
entitled to exemptions under the Income Tax
these:persons were at present obliged to ply the full
amount of -the tax in the first instance; and they
found it, extremely-difficult afterwards to ehtaitt the •
relief allowed to them,.
Mr. IfiIITTBREdD stated,
,that he. as well as
the Hon. &ironer, had received complaints of very
severe, hardships, in the manner in e',hich the income
tax was:levied en the lower classes, . He Was sore 'if
his Noble Friend. (Lord H..Peity) had, continued in
theliecessary relief would have been afforded
to the persona sh pressed. He, hoped the HolL
,Gereleman opposite would consider of the meens 9f
affording" them some allevitition.
Dr. LAI-VI3ENCE lamented, that ia proporliOn:as ,
the, property tax had been made more borthensoMe,
:the means of reliel'ird been Made more difficult in,
cases in 'Which:llo*.la4v could presume to with-
-.hold it. •
Lord H.. PETTY stated it to have been iiii.desite
and intentidn. that. eyery feat grievance ueder the t
Property TAX, as it had been increased and regulated
by hiM, silo* be satisfactorily redressed.; but he
thought it in the first. instance desirable, . that the
whole of the provisions should have a fair trial ; for
it was only sech a trial thaecould afiiird proof of the.
reality or the futility of the objections which were so
universally made. . He was desirous; uric that a fair.
trial had beep afibrded, to give all proper relief; but
lie could assure the House that Much difficulty would
be felt when the meatis of giving that relief consist- ,
ently with the iitodUce of the taX should,cotne to b
considered. ,
• The Motion of the CIi&NCELLOR of the. Exen Er
(41.J511, *lO,l was for leave to bring in •BilllOrthe
better Regulation of .tho.Colleaion of the AssesSed
Taxes, and The .Tait on Property, was then agreed
to, arid the Chancellor of the Exchequer and spree
others were ordered to prepare and bring in
(ti thitMotion of Mr. Coctutetsts .tottesroNe.,
it *was ordered that there be 'laid before the .House
an Accotint of the Sums issuedtoßegimental 'Agents,
by way of compensation for theitetratible, with re-
.speti ie. the Corps of 'Artillery, ;E,tvgitteera, and
Privere. for the .yeae. 1806, 'Mr. Sehnstone took
Occasion to state, 'tint the Accounts ordered, with a
view to shew the savings that may
,be Made in the
clothing of the Army, Were bet yet before the!
Hohse, and he particularly recommended thii mat-'
ter to the attentien elhis
,Majesty's Mrnisters.
Mr. ROSS took occasion to inform the lion. Gen-
tleman, that ntilosa could fall on the Public for: the
delaleatioes of ,regimental agents,.as the Celotiels
were responsible..
Mr. Wurratteeia gave .notice; that On: Monday,
next he should move tier 'an‘Account of the Nutnber
of Volunteer Serjeants appointed to recruit for the
and an Account of the number of Men re-
cruited by .theme •
RF.VERSIOtgi. • "
ILINKES, in consequence of the notice be,
hail given, rose to submit a Resolution,, rt,
thought necessary as a preliminary step towards any.
proceedingwhieh thernouse,.should think proper to
, adapt with. respect to the pleasure foutitted 44 a 4e,
solution of that House, which had been Tai give
the other. The,ohly Way,Ol bringing thereieetion:•l
at lo,prevenigrttnts of Pi o* 411,eversian
the Upper House, before the view of 14,fia,,,e,
be. to nppoint, a Connuittee to inspecit the
'::l.nrcls!jortrnals, as to what haul been done theca- with
-respell to that - .The Committee May rateeet toe
• morrow, 'and on the" report he may found a Motion,
which he would submit to the House ou Nionday.
[Frona, what afterwards tea from Mr. Whittnead. it

is understood thc.the motion is intendedip
ll_plqge
tlw ouse, to takethe proprietiof piobibitCg qratils
itoversion into, its consideration early Octll ,the
next Session] ,He accordingly tio'w mokedihat a
Committee be appointed to inSpe& die Lords' Jour-
nals, 33 to what had been done by their Lordships
with resi:eet 'to the Bill for Prohibiting. Grants of
-11.4CeS in rt6l:iefiioti;'4c. Tlie Comattacwas- air-.
• pointed, .with Mr. &tries at the head of it, five to
be a georam.
Mr. MAG ENS gave notice, that early iii t#ie next
Session, he ,would ,submit a inution with reste& to
the state of Our West 'india ' -
CONTINENTAL POLICY OF TFIE,LA'I'E ALAI[)