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London, England, 1831-05-05 00:00:00

Otiley (son-in-law of the late Lord Crewe), a
staunch Reformer, will be returned as the colleague
of the Hon. R. Grosvenor ; and thus the voice of
Chester will not be neutralized by having one for,
and cone against the Bill.

SOUTHAMPTON, Mir S.
This morning the town was in a continued bustle,
owing to the commencement of the election of the
town Members. Long before the time of opening
the doors of the Town-hall (ten o'clock) a great
concourse of persons had assembled, anxious to ob-
tain admission. About that time Mr. Penleaze en-
tered the hall by the private entrance, amidst great
applause, as did Mr. Atherley, the other popular
candidate ; but Mr. Hoy, the Ahtt.rerormer, expe-
rienced a very unpleasant reception. On the Hall
being opened the: rush was terrific, and some gentle-
men lost part of their apparel. The mob were very
outrageous in their conduct, attributable to, perhaps,
the public-houses in a partial degree being opened for
the rabble. The Mayor having opened the proceed-
ings in the usual form, and the necessary business
having been gone through,
Mr. Hut,ToN, of 13evis Mount, near Southampton
(a gentleman who, at the time of the late distur-
bances, (vas going to raise a corps of yeomanry,
but of which no more has been heard, to support
his Majesty's Government), rose to propose Mr.
Hoy, the Anti-Reform candidate (so much for con-
sistency !) which was seconded by Mr. ELDRIDGE.
The Hall at this time was in great confusion, and
it was stated that Anti-Reform Magistrates had not
been backward in sending ruffians to insult the
electors of the town, and even for the purposes of
assault, if the Anti-Reform candidate was likely
(which he will be) to be unsuccessful, and who
were, perhaps, paid by the Committee of London,
for the purpose of boroughtnongering. After which,
Mr. rose and proposed A. Atherley, Esq.,
as a bt and proper representative.
Dr. WIGHTMAN seconded the nomination.
Mr. -- rose and proposed J. S. Penleaze,
E•q., a gentleman known as the firm friend of Re-
form. He way seconded by W. C. 'WESTLAKE, Esq.
Shortly after the MPa-oR put it to a show of
hands, which was decidedly in favour of Messrs.
Atherley and Penleaze; after which the poll com-
menced, and at its conclusion, at fire m'clock, was
as under :

A therley 4l
Penlcaze
Hoy l2
Leaving the wo-begone candidate 28 in the minority.

HARTY ICH.
The election of Members of Parliament for the
borough of Harwich took place on Saturday last in
the Town-hall.
The Mayor, A. Cox, Esq., having taken the
chair, called upon the electors, in conformity with
the precept he had received, to choose two Mem-
bers- for 'he ensuing Parliament.
GEORGE GRAHAM, Esq. said, that the Reform
Bill had a tendency to subvert the Constitution. He
warned the electors against visionary theories, and
urged them to return to Parliament gentlemen who
would maintain the existing Constitution. He
therefore proposed the Right Hon. J. C. Herries.
T. LOGAN, Esq. seconded the nomination.
T. CORBOLD, Esq. said they were called upon that
day on one of the most extraordinary cases that ever
happened—it was whether an immense body of men
should be free or not. He was one of those who
bad ever thought from a child that the true English
character never ought to fail in doing honour to the
King and country.—(Cheers.) They had a King
who ought to be supported—his throne ought to be
supported; without a true confidence in the King,
a country could not exist. The country was now
in a lamentable state, from causes well known to
them. lie should in a very few words introduce
a gentleman, who, staunch to his King, was as firm
P. supporter of the King and country as any man
in existence, and who would not, neither would he
(Mr. Cobbold), bow to any man in reference to his
faith upon the King, and in doing honour to him on
every occasion. He (Mr. Cobbold) did say it be
hoved all Englishmen to rally round the King. The
Right Hon. Gentleman had declared himself a
friend to Reform; he was a friend to moderate
Reform—(Crie,. of " hear, hear")—to that Reform
which Englishmen ought to have. Both the Right
Hon. Gentlemen proposed had declared themselves
friendly to a proper Reform. Under these consi-
derations, and free and unbiassed, he begged leave
to nominate a loyal man—a man determined to
support the King and country—namely, the Right
Hon. G. It. Dawson.
JOHN ANsum seconded the motion.

The MAYOR then asked whether there were any
other gentlemen to be proposed for the Thorough,
and if there were, to come forward.
Mr. BERRIES rose, the circumstances under which
they were now met were of a nature so important,
and so different, and there had been so wide a
change, and they now stood in circumstances so dif-
ferent to what had ever existed before in the whole
existence of this great country, and so far surpass-
ing all that had ever been propounded to electors in
this kingdom, involving consequences of such im-
mense magnitude, that he should not feel satisfied
in calling upon them again to trust him as their re-
presentative in Parliament, without feeling it neces-
tsary to state under what views, and, for the first
me, with what pledges he would enter, if they
tahose him, into Parliament, not merely as represen-
tive of the borough of Harwich, but of the Com-
mons of England.—(Cries of " bravo" from the
benches.) On all former occasions he had pre-
sented himself as the known friend and connexion of
the Government ; and he had fairly told them that
he espoused all the principles maintained by the then
Government; that Government was bound as he con-
ceived, to uphold all chartered rights, the just pro- I
tection of all those institutions, all those great prin.
cipl es on which our Constitution had ever been
bands—in short to maintain the then existing, the
present, and, he hoped, the for ever existing Con-
stitution of England. He had asked their suffrages,
and he had given them on these grounds. In what
position was he now placed ? He came to them,
avowing not only that he had no connexion with the
Government of the country, but that upon one
point, and that of the greatest importance, he would
oppose them. The present Government of this
country,—he spoke of it chiefly as it concerned that
great measure for the future judgment of which they
were to meet,—that Government pursued principles
diametrically opposite to those to whose conduct he
before alluded ; it avowedly brought forward a great
measure which it is said, was to reconstruct and re-
model the Constitution. Thus they were called
upon to make a new Constitution, arid discharge the
old one. Every thing was to be sacrificed and
swept away : this very chartered borough, which
had throughout a long series of ages formed by its
representation a constituent part of thin mighty
ernpre,—this corporation, whose representative-.
laid the foundation of what they called the Con-
stitution of the country, laid at the great revolution
of 1688, was to be abnlished. His Right Hon.
Friend and himself had been made the subject of
infinitely mischievous premeditated misrepresenta-
tions, by the Government of the country and
hireling scribes.—(Cries of bravo, bravo,"
from the benches.) They had been calumniated
for their conduct as their Members, and the borough
of Harwich had been shamefully maligned and ca-
lumniated. It was said that they, forsooth, when
the Government which had appointed them to their
places no longer existed, should have resigned the
honour which they then held, and suffered some
friends of the existing Government to get into their
places. Now how did it stand with respect to him-
self and his Right Hon. Friend ? Had they be-
haved in one particular unworthy of them (the
electors) in the judgment of one upright man ?
Hear," and " No, no," from the benches.)
CCries of "
They applied to their constituents, and told them,
that in their change of circumstances they could
Zia take a part in support of the Government,—
they had told them that that Government had pro-
feeevi before entering office principles with which

theirs were not congenial. Presuming, he said, that
they would act as they professed, and God knew in
one case, they went beyond it, it would not be con-
sistent with their sense of duty to act so. Well,
the members of this Corporation—of this selfish
Treasury borough, as it was called—in answer to
the applications which he and his colleague made, de-
sired them to exercise their own judgment, but to

act according to those principles which they pro-
fesned when they were returned. Other subjects of
importance existed, into the details of which he
would not then enter, such as the wine duties, the

timber duties, the colonial duties, the budget, finance,
arid the attempts to establish a contemptible and un-
English Constitution, the disregard of colonial inte-
rests, and the mode of treatment of the compact with

the national creditor. It had been raid that it was

expe'lient to tax funded property. Not one ar;u-
ment could be shown in favour of its expediency.

He and his Right Hon. Friend had been called the
foulest names that had ever disgraced the breasts of
those who were of their own country ; and
now the Members of the Corporation of
Harwich came in for their's, because they did not

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now act in perfect subserviency to the Treasury
mandate. As to the all-engrossing topic upon
which their choice had then been founded, he
thought himself bound to give them a distinct pledge
as to the course he meant to pursue. His opinion
always had been, that such pledges were not strictly
constitutional; but this was a case of a peculiar na-
ture. Parliament was dissolved distinctly for a spe-
cial purpose, and he felt that on this occasion he
ought to put himself forward and to give them a
pledge of a most direct nature,—he meant with res-
pect to the measure of Parliamentary Reform,
which was prepared by the King's Ministers. On the
question of Reform in general he had little to say on
the present occasion, because, whatever might be
his opinions upon Reform in general, it was that
specific measure, and that only,—it was " the Bill,
the whole Bill, and nothing but the Bill,"—on
which they were to express their sentiments. How-
ever, he might say, in passing, like all other gentle-
men who had add, essed them on that subject before,
he should riot object to any measure of safe and ad-
visable Reform ; and though he had great doubts of
the utility, or of any advantages that would result
therefrom, he was open to hear all that could be
urged iii defence of any measure of Reform that he
had not yet heard; and with respect to the ministe-
rial plan he cold say, without hesitation, it had his
mo-t unqualified opposition. Independently of the
subordinate parts of the Bill, to the great prin-
c ple which it exhibited, and on which alone it
rested, he was distinctly and diametrically opposed.
By this Bill the representation of Ireland would no
longer be in the hands of those who had had it, and
the people of Ireland would return Catholics to
Parliament. Who could tell what would happen
to the Church of England if the Church of Ireland
should go ? It was true they should have the plea-
sure of seeing the Church of Ireland go first, but
they themselves would go too. The present Go-
vernment had made a compact with Mr. O'Connell,
that great agitator of all Ireland. He knew of
nothing more humiliating in the history of England,
nothing more disgraceful than such conduct—nothing
that would make the blood of an Englishman boil
sooner than that the Government of the country
should have an understanding with him (Mr.
O'Connell,) arid frankly confess that without his
good-will and pleasure their measure would not be
safe. They had gone further with that gentleman
(Mr. O'Connell), and had adopted his system. The
present state of things was a proof of it. Seeing
the advantages of agitation in another country, they
were determined to try what it would do here,
where good order had always prevailed. The very
lowest of the populace had been stirred up. Wee
not that a true picture ? Was it not taking place in
almost every town in the kingdom ? They had con-
trived to do it in this town ; they had spread the
poison througk the channels of the Press, and 1
brought it to bear on the lowest classes of the in-
habitants. By suffering the mob to drive candidates
from the hustings, they hoped to carry such a Par-
liament as would suit the Bill now laid before them.
He, however, hoped and trusted it would be proved
that there was at present (as the greatest man in the
House of Commons, Sir Robert Peel, had recently
declared with an eloquence peculiar to hintseD,,
that there was in this country a degree of power in
the property, and in the intelligence which it em-
braced, which, if combined, would resist all the
efforts of the Government, allied with an infuriated
mob.
Mr. Dewsos said, if it was his good fortune, as
Ire hoped and trusted it would be, to be returned as
their representative in Parliament, give him leave to
say that he should go into that assembly with as
much independence as any man elected by any part
of this empire. Some persons might have a great
number of constituents ; there might be, from Lon-
don and from Yorkshire, persons who were sent by
a greater number of votes; but he, the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman, would go as independent as
any person that was sent to Parliament, uninfluenced
by the threats of an overbearing Government, un-
stained by the abusive violence of a servile, a venal,
and an anonymous press, uninfluenced by an infuri-
ated and misdirected populace. He conceived that
his Majesty's Government had done the country
the greatest mischief by their unnecessary, he might
say, foolish appeal to the sense of England. What
had they done for their country ? Their whole series
of conduct had been one continued trick to hold
office. He would not go into their conduct with
respect to foreign policy. What had they done for
the country ? Had there been any thing done that
looked like an act of an English Ministry ? Had not
every thing been un-English ? Had not they prefer-
red the interests of foreigners to those of English-
men ? Had they not done every thing to shew
their opposition to the colonial interests ? Had
there been any one act of theirs that deserved the
commendation of one of the least intelligent of En-
glishmen ? They bad been defeated in acts, in argu-
ments, in votes, in every thing that shewed or could
shew the intentions of the Legislature of the country.
He condemned, as strongly as any man, the prin-
ciple that any Peer of another House of Parliament
should have the nomination of Members of the
Commons' House of Parliament ; but it was impos-
sible to prevent it; that power arose from the pos-
session of property ; it did not arise from the exer-
cise of aristocratic power, bet from the possession
of property; and it was impossible for any Legisla-
tive Act to draw the boundary line by whichi the
boundary arising from property could be defined.
Parliament was Pot independent of popular clamour.
That was a spirit that he should like to see intro-
duced into Parliament. Unless it would show itself
independent of popular clamour, and of a venal and
anonymous Press, the institutions of this country
could never be supported. He was afraid to tres-
pass on their time—(Cries of, " Go on")—he
should therefore conclude by saying that he looked
on that Bill as the forerunner of the destruction of
the Constitution of England.—( Loud cries of," No,
no," and " Hear, hear.") It would also, if passed,
give undue and unorganized power to the democracy
of the country,—to that great part of the country
which was not recognised by the Constitution : it
would leave the people of this country to anarchy
and confusion—(No, no)—to atheism, to infidelity,
and to onression.
After a few words from Mr. BAILEY and Mr,
HERRIES,
The MAYoR proceeded to poll, when a voice in
the hall cried out, " Now, gentlemen, look, here is
all the sense of Harwich in a very small compass.
There were also loud cries of, " It will soon be
over." The Mayor having taken the sense of the
electors, they, sixteen in number, unanimously re-
turned their two former representatives.
The meeting then broke up, amidst cries of,
" Now for the funeral I" " No ride I" " This is the
last time I"

NORFOLK.-Mr. Coke has published a second address
to the freeholders. This address, by one of the most vene-
rable men of the day, the oldest surviving compatriot of
the early reformers, the friend of Fox, Burke, and Sheri-

dan, is one of the most important warnines on the great
question now before the country that we have yet seen.
The following is an extract from this important document :
—" Aye or no is the question—now or never is the time.
In the fearful crisis we have now reached, there is no
issue except by Reform or revolution. But let us not
deceive ourselves about the meaning of this great word
Reform. It must b! lull and effectual, or it will be worse
than useless; it must be the Bill of Lord John Russell, in
spirit and substance, or it will be a source of increased
demand, and of perpetual irritation and discord. In one
sense, I am myself a moderate reformer ; for moderate in-
deed is the plan now submitted to our choice, in com-
parison with that which may be forced upon us, if violent
and imprudent men should succeed in obtaining its rejec-
tion."
BEDFORDSHIRE,-The great cause of Reform will most
undoubtedly prosper in this county ; Lord Tavistock and
Sir P. Payne, Bart., Reformers, against Mr. Stuart,
brought forward on the anti-Reform interest by Lord
Bate, the staunch supporter of his Grace of Wellington.
HORSHAM.—The Earl of Surrey and Mr. Nackburne
were o❑ Tuesday elected without opposition for this bo-
rough. Neither of them app'ared in the town.
FLINTSIIIRE.—Sir John Hanmer, an anti-Reformer,
has resigned ; so that Mr. Lloyd Mostyn (nephew and
successor of the late Sir T. Mostyn) will be returned
without opposition. Mr. Davies Cooke not only declines
to oppose him, but gives him his most cordial support.
WEsTnunir, MAY 2.—The election of two Members
of Parliament for this borough took place to-day ; the
Members are now returned under the influence of Sir
Ralph Franco Lopez, Bart., who has succeeded his uncle,
Sir M. Lopez. The conduct of Sir Ralph in this election
has given general satisfaction to the inhabitants ; for in op-
position to his own personal interest, two Members have
been returned who will vote for the Reform measure
brought forward by Government. The Members are Sir
Ralph himself and Lieutenant Colonel Hanmer, of the
Horse Guards.

SUFFOLsz.-The nomination took place on Tuesday at
Stowmarket, when Lord fluntingfield proposed Sir H.
Bunbury, and Sir R. Harland seconded the proposition.
Sir H. Bunbury addressed the meeting, vindicating the
principle of the Reform Bill, but stating that he should en-
deavour to obtain a modification of the clause relating to
leaseholds in the counties. Mr. Dalton proposed. and Mr.
Heigham seconded. Mr. Tyrrell, who stated that he should
give his most strenuous opposition to some of the clauses of
the Bill, which he considered injur.ous to agriculture.
The Sheriff then inquired if any gentleman wished to pro-
pose any ether candidate. No one answered. The elec-
tion was then adjourned tilt Tuesday, at Ipswich.
YORKSHIRE.—Mr. Wortley and Mr. Lascelles have
both declined the honour of being put in nomination, sen-
sible that their success is impossible. Al to Mr. Dun-
coruhe, it is very doubtful whether he will appeir nn the
day of nomination. The four candidates who are in favour
of the Bill meet with the most enthusiastic reception
wherever they go.