The Sun.
London, England, 1836-02-26 00:00:00

MALT DUTIES.

Mr. WODEHOUSE made some obssrvations, in a low
tone, relative to a memorial he presented on the subject of
the Malt duties.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
felt it his duty to diregt an inquiry into the subject of the
memorial and to the facts stated in the Report. In the
year 1830 the maltsters were entitled to a reduction of
20 per cent. under certain regulations, and it was intended
that the public should have the benefit of the reduction.--
(Hear. ) He should be prepared to say, when the proper
time arrived what was the course the Government had deter-
mined upon, but it should be recollected if the prayer of the
memorialists were complied with, there would be a
clear loss to the revenue, of 164,0001. per annum.—(Hear.)
If illicit practices could not be put an end to, they must call
upon Parliament to furnish them with additional powers.
ADJOURNED DEBATE.
Mr. HUME, on the order of the day being read, suggested
that the adjourned debate should have precedence.
Mr. DUNCOMBE thought the adjourned debate should
have precedence, and if a division took place, he should cer-
tainly vote for it.
The SPEAKER said the question was still open.
Mr. HAWE S said, Gentlemen on the other side last night
called this a great Constitutional question, and if such were the
fact, why not give it precedence.
Mr. WYNN did most certainly oppose the proposition of
last night, because he conceived it most tyrannical; but al-
though he might-have said that it was a great constitutional
question, still he thought that the orders of the day should
have precedence.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL explained. He had moved the
Order of the day for the House going into a Committee of
Supply, but with the leave of the House he had consented to
withdraw the motion, as he thought the present time better
sor the discussion of the question relative to the Borough of
Poole than was afforded that morning.—( Cries of " Ques-
tion," " Withdraw," " Divide," and much confusion.)
The SPEAKER put the question, that the motion for the
Committee of Supply be withdrawn.—(Cries of " No, no,"
" Aye, aye," and renewed noise.)
Severas Members rose to address the House, but were met
by cries of Question," &c., which rendered it impossible for
us to hear a single word.)
Mr. M'CLE AN begged to call the attention of the House
to the interference that was taking place in the contest now
going on.—( Loud cries of " Chair," " Order," " Question,"
in the midst of which the Hon. Member sat down.)
The SPEAKER said the motion for the Committee of
Supply had been disposed of, and the House was now in the
same position as when the Hon. and Learned Member rose to
move that the adjourned debate be now resumed.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY recommended to the Hon. Member
(W. Maclean) to withdraw'his motion for the present. The
case of the Poole election could not occupy much time.
Mr. MACLEAN could assure the Hon. Member that it
was of the utmost importance that he should brin forward his
motion at once.—(Cries of "Go on.") With the permis-
sion of the House he would proceed. He need not say that
the subject which he waz about to bring under the consideration
of the House, was at this moment one of peculiar interest.
He hoped the House would give him credit for believing
thare was no one less capable than himself to bring
forward the subject which he had taken upon himself to do.
When he found the consequence that was now going on in the
northern procinces of Spain had already began to develope
themselves in a manner that might implicate the honour of Great
Britain, the House would grant him its indulgence for press-
ing upon it a matter which he thought called for investigation.
In point of fact, the information that wa.? received was
either incorrect, or the troops had been improperly sent
out.—( Hear.) The Noble Lord acknowledgsd that he had
followed no precedent in allowing troops to go out.
In the reasoning of the Noble Lord there was not much
novelty, when he stated that it was a case of right of
wrong, and that the success of the measure would shew whe-
ther it was politic or not.
(LEFT 'SPEAKING.)

Sugar only were offered iri the Market this morning (about
500 hhds.), a considerable phiptiftlen of Which all, leaving
many of the leaving brokers entirely out of gergar ; the ad-
vance in the prices since this day week, is ls. to ls. fid; per
epi,f.-gbrCrtri 01s. 6d. a 625., Jamaica brown 635. up to 695. for
The ri've' sn'co this day fortnight is 3s. per cwt.
Fn tlye liefined: iltatiet there is but little alteration to notice;
flee price's. gerVerally Ore higher there are but few goods offer-
. ing in the filartefi fhe fjne C.:rashecl 435. No sales to report
i for shipping.
There is not so* much briskness tlre Itefined Markft
this Wfteirl)ooh; it I'l4 not advanced in prVportion with raw
Sugars; Ltirripsid.:clay the nearest price 845., airxl the short
p.lice 4s. ; the shipper rift riot doily,- any business.
MAURITIUS.-.The public sda.' this week went ell with
great briskness, 5,099 bags sold at a futlllrer rise of 6d. to ls. ;
fine grey white, 625. ; some low browns taken in. at 555.
By public sale this day 4,808 bags Mauritius Sugar sold
with great briskness ; low to fine yellow, 635. 6d. a 675, 6d.,
being 6d. higher, and 3s. from the late lowast price of the
market. The last cargo of Mauritius averaged 645., and we
suppose tnis will average higher.
EAST INDIA. -There are still some enquiries after Bengal
Sugar, middlinc,a ;
to good white, 375. 6d. to 38s. damps, 355.
to 375. In other sorts of East India Sugars no liusitless to re-
port. By public sale this day, 778 bags Bengal Sugar, low
to wood white 365. a 385., previous prices.
FOREIGN.-There is a very brisk demand for Foreign
Sugars, but no extensive transactions have taken place by
.private contract ; the holders are very firm.
By public sale this day 1319 boxes yellow Havannah, prin-
,jnally soft quality, were all bought in at 335. to 365. 6d.
The ,„,;:uaged sold at previous prices. 385 boxes of white
were disposet of previous to the sale, the price has not trans-
CoSet,:---No business td report in British Plantation ;
ziarket. Foreign descriptions
there arc but parcels in the
are inquired for at firm prices. The* Government contract
for 30 tons has been taken, but the price has not transpired.
RUM, BRANDY, AND HoLLANns.-...The prices of Jamaica and
strong Rum are fully supported, the low Leewards ,7ontinues
very heavy. In Brandy and Geneva there is no alteration.. ,
NITRATE or Sooa.-There are no purchases reported.
INi/tom-There is no business reported in Indigo. The de-
liveries of Indigo this month is expected to be 2,000 chests.
FRUIT.-The demand for Fruit still continues to be on a
moderate scale, but the prices are firmly supported.
TIMBER' DVTIES.-The report of what was stated in the
newspapers by Lard Lansdowne on Monday night is incor-
rect-the duties may be altered this Sessiort.
• SALTPETRE.-At public sale, on Tuesday, 140 bags Salt-
petre sold rather dearer, and with much animation, 3-Mbs. re-
fraction, good dry bold white, 28s. The purchases by private
contract are very considerable, and at extreme prices ; above
2,000 tons are reported sold. Refined, 32s , and firm
RicE,Four hundred tons are reported for Portugal this
week,
WooL.-There is no new feature in flee Wool Market, the
business is confined to small orders for immediate use, at firm
prices. About 300 bales Colonial Wdol have arrived off the
cdaSt this week.
OILS.-,The export demand for common Oils is (as well
from the dull trade abroad as from the season) suspended.
Olive Oil in request for export. The public sale on Tuesday
went at a decline of about 10s. ; yellow and straw 341. to
to 351. Os., pale 381. to 381. ss.
TaLLow.-The consumption of Tall continues very ex ten-
sive, the market prices are in consequence well supported.
She speculators who have sold Tallow extensively appear to be
at a loss to deliver the parcels immediately, and put off the
evil day in settling, by offering new Tallow for a more distant
,delivery Harcels of Tallow on:the spot continue scarce.
SPICES.-669 bags Pepper at public sale fully supported tha
late advance, good. Malabar to 38 d. 114 bags Pimento sold'
on Wednesday at 4icl to 4-4. d. for ord. quality. 350 chests
Cassia Lignea, likewise at public sale, sold rather mixed and
false packed ti7s. 6d. to 585., more even 58s. to 58s. 6d.,

••••4i •
fife dealer and the public had alike suffered loss and In-
H„s, hear.)
justice—it was the case of Mr. PLVPs•---k Government
That gentleman had' contacted to sups). 'Y the "
the duty on
with paper, but he had paid 14s. instead of S.
Oise' paper valid' he had provided for
l to the LW'
The &Jetted. contractor, Mr. Phipps, applies and the
Board on die sabiect, but he could get no X.
c dress ;ttine the
.result was, that the Navy Bowel were gainers' •IT,teneeior of
supply at 25., but his Right Hon. Friend, the' s‘'"a
only • other
the Exchequer was a loser of ss. The ";tteetion
principal point to which he wished to direct tl.'n .f or
of the House was nee which of itself would y
.) emir'
change which it was in the power of tees ' ont.
to make—it was, that this Tax was one whit' 1 tros
rated, peculiarly upon literature, of which paper 01
the sort of staple material. The Committee had„ suss
ltsh. easGovcrnm,
the evidence of three of the most eminent pub'''.o of
of the day ; they had the evidence of Mr. Parker arid sits
toas
Mr. Knight, who had done more for the diffusion of Pc'Pasil
literature than almost any other. From his evidence it aPr, of
that the tax pressed most heavily upon that spc.eu-srem
literature, and that it varied according to the circulation of
is. td 2s. Bd. upon the octavo volume. Upon 505 night
those psasular works published by him, Mr. Keoes
had made some most interestinff calculations,
which it ap.steared that one whiche now required
re,
circulation of 50,,900 copies in order to afford any rem beep
tion, would, if a reduction was made, only so small as had LT,.5.
talked of, afford such remuneration at a sale of 30,000 co.Pitlie
The petitioners thought trey bad a right to complain el
_ere
duty being laid indiscriminately upon things that :ter
saleable and those that were not. There was an t'sn,
branch of the subject which he ,bad no doubt the Cy 's,
cellor of the Exchequer would take intns his consideration
The
was stained' 1"
alluded to the duty on paper that the
duty upon that was enormous, in a,idition two.)
previous duty upon it as plain pa, ler.
itioner s
essi aso
k
With regard to the remedy for which the pes
he thought that their ' demands were neither "ro say
nor presumptuous. It was impossible for him
'
what means the Chancellor of the Exchequer coo
find of gratifying their wishes. He should be the last man 'trts
world to press Ministers improperly,whichever side of the k•
hd sat; he had no wish to embarrass the Chanee'ot
of 0e Exchequer, or do anything that would teths
to injure !be national faith ; but he was inclined to think se
wishes of thss petitioners might be easily complied with.
tlis
could not help Slinking that the increased consumption soti,
leave a very large revenue even if a considerable portion of
duty were taken off'. Borne propositions had been put fors e'
such as lowering the rate' of the first class and raising the secA'thst
He thought that the safes*l and most effectual remedy Wei for
which the petitioners prayed for. He thanked the House t,„
listening so long to the obsers•ations which he felt it his tintless
make, but he believed the House would see that the great o,J
s Hoese'
of the petitioners was to have their- case laid before tne
There was no class of persons betSer entitled to reliel.oo
their ingenuity and their exertions. The most ingeluss,
improvements an machinery were due td one of the grip
tlemen who had signed this petition.—(Hezr, hear.) wit!'
trusted thi;t the prayer of these gentlemen would meet tio,
consideration, not only from his Right Hon. 1.1-iendsoo4
Chancellor of the Exchequer, who was well eel:10001
with the subject, but also from those gentlemen who ore
not yet turned their attention to this subject. He was 1," of
that it tumid be found upon examination that no brane)„,
taxation woe more worthy of attention—(Hear,
and he trusted that the House would agree with b-od
thinking that the prayer of the petition was well foundedrtber
that its extent was not nnreasonable. There were manYusick
interests entitled to attention, but it would be difficult to r
out• one that better deserved the attention of Parliament 111"
the Chancellor of Exchequers-.(Loud cheers.) be
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUF,R. I tss
would make no objection to the course nut:sued either hl,l hll
petitioners or his Noble Friend, who had sSated clearly euuslo
the case of the paper manufacturers. There Was not 3 leo
omitted in his speech which could be Isrougsht to
tor
upon the subject. He (Mr. Rice) admitted :bat cop'
claims deserved the attention of Parliament and oegesle
sideration of Government, and he sincerely hoped his
tit 10
Friend would see that it was impossible for him at prele: the
go further than to state, that the subject was unossh' ore
anxious consideration of his Majesty's Ministers. for
was scarcely any class who might not make out a case •",„ to
reduction of taxation ; but the question for the Govertnees''lo
consider was, what particular body was best entitle°
en
it? At Easter, when he would make his financial statel
the
for the year, he would be prepared to state the views
Government, and which particular branch of taxation fr:i'sor
be reduced. He hoped Honourable Gentlemen who wisheoto
a reduction of the paper duties, would be content to sslts-tios
April, and he pledged himself that there would be a reel.- ge.
in such branches as would best benefit the community at larcisi
Mr. STUART had a motion on the paper for 'nut:err
next, for the repeal of those duties. He would not, t.tbls
fore, enter into a discussion on its details ; but he felt
duty to support the petition of the Noble Lord. ' the
Mr. MARK PHILLIPS thought it was a disgrace tussle
country that these duties were still continued, and would
his most cordial support to the prayer of the petition.
MALT DUTIES. h old
yhs WODE HOU SE gave notice that to-morrow he 9 °,sfb
on. the Chancellor of the Exchequer a saLle'rt3")
question that the Speaker do leave the chair, .00
'fait duties.--(Cries of " Hear, hear, beeat.
on the
the Right
relative to the
Mr. CLAY pres,ented a petition from the parish elis to
within three miles of London.
Mary, Whitechapel, praying for the introduction of a -1"--
prevent railways coming
Mr. ROEBUCK gave not:,
COLONIES.
move an humble Address to his 1, he 00,
le that on the sth Mare.-- Imes
Justice of the Mauritius for high crimes and misdeame.to
Majesty to remove the 00
committed by him in his office, and on the 15th of 11.;7
10
he would move an Address to his Ms Testy, praying lads.
remove the Chief Commissioner of lands in Lower VP-
TIMBER DUTIES. the
Mr. G. F. YOUNG begged to ask It question c?fees
Right Hon. President of the Board of Trade—whether
the intention of the Government to introduce any nteustlols'
the House this session of Parliament, pursuant to the 'reties?
mendation of the Select Committee on the Timber Duisfss
In the other House it was reported that a Member of fus. well
iesty's Government had said it was not ; while it 0s 7,0115 t
itn)wn that the Right Hon. Gentleman, in answer to a 13",tbil
inquiry on a recent occasion, had said, not at present. A y
difference gave rise to much observation and considers
b/e
satisfaction, sA.
Mr. P. THOMSON said that it had been his ("'-'OIY
Thomson's) intention to introduce some measure on that it
ject in the early part of the next session, as he thought thA 00
could not be done with safety before then ; but he he"silire
reason to think that some steps would be taken towards tuseopt
troduction of such a measure in the latter part of the Pre' bi
session. He regretted that the question had been ask the
the Hon. Member that night, as he did not perceive
Ije
Hon. Member for Sunderland in his place in the House•derr
regretted it because he was prepared to ask the Hon.
ber for Sunderland a question in connection with it,
ther the report which appeared in the newspapers "001
speech in his name, charging his Majesty's Goveruate
with an intention to postpone the subject to an ind'isbs
period, that Hon. Members interested in the question ole-
be put off their guard and go away, so that they might sun slO
titiously, in their absence, deal with it as they chose. des,
(Mr. P. Thomson) would wish to have known that sal'
Member's reason for making such an observation ; and he cr de'
lenged him or any one else to substantiate a charge of theost,
scription against his Majesty's Government. Their coil pcss
on the contrary, had been marked by the greatest 061
and candour on the subject. Or
Mr. YOUNG explained. He was sorry he had not see
portunity of a previous communication with the Hon. Gt,
man. It certainly was arranged to put the question l'tesk
presence of the Hon. Meober for Sunderland ; but he
the liberty of asking it that evening, to save time. ear
Mr. ROBINSON rose to put a question.—(Loud so"
tinned cries of " Chair" and " Order.") the
The SPEAKER said there Was no question before
House.
Mr. ROBINSON—I know it, Sir--
An HON. MEMBER—WeII then, sit down.
Mr. Robinson sat down.
MILITARY, TORTURE. retlrl
Mr. WAKLEY rose to ask the Right Hon. ti; e re"
at War if he had any objection to produce a copy 02 tme f is
ceedings on the inquest that was taken on the bodiee',og
two soldiers who lately died at Woolwich, after has's° Pe,
ceived the punishment inflicted by courts-martial_r( ,tls)'
would also beg leave to ask the Gallant Major, the Die,tll°
for Barnstaple, if he intended to follow up his motion Tsse
subject of military flogging, and bring the matter h"
Committee ? tiels
Lord HO WICK was understood to say that no Alec
existed to furnishing the desired returns. h
Major FANCOURT said that he certainly
follow up his motion, otherwise he would not have Ulu
the House. at I,
COMMISSIONERS OF PUBLIC WORKS 'I-
LAND.—RIVER SHANNON.
wished
If"
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER oi
call the attention of the Hong., to the Report of the thiel
sioners of the Shannon, andite recommendationstsh'
had made, pursuant to the order of last Session, for the
°sifibei
ance of the Government in the measures about to be f
fore Parliament for facilitating loans for the purpose cop ~1
both public and private works in that country. (Theapo ",0
sion prevailing in the House prevented us from elite' of et
the Hon. Gentleman's prefatory observations.) He did
the length of agreeing in the entire of their scsn'ges,tilbleet°
the Bill which he had since prepared, and hoped tO ves-s O'sgs
lay it bbfore the House in a few days, embodied the 01°„1 srsi
able and practical of their propositions. These he vso"-nsfsoses-
lingly carry into effect, without respecting the app
of the monies, and would (ender the sanction of such two r
e.
—( Hear, hear.
merits as he soon expected to see carried into effect) bitiehsA,'
placing on the hear.) He
hesitation in asking the confidence of the House to etutelardt
to issue Exchequer bills in aid of the public works of
ethsheoußl at present content ) of
Shannon.' Ulf/
I
A,
Mr. LYNCH was happy to find thatthe Right ife°;.elo3-
edport of the- Commissihorers' tP
/ID
Gentleman was pursuing a course wjth respect to Po
which would be productive of the best p o" d
ractical resnilsiesol
expected that it would be further attended with g
to this country, in preventing the annual immigration (4
employed Irish. He would mention au illustrative fact ;0000
Griffith, one of these Commissioners, stated that, hY tder be
lay which took place in a single district last season unbeificie
observation, 500 individuals were prevented froola to Atli
burthen on England. He would, however, put lager's/
Chancellor of the Exchequer that it was not acting;
towards Ireland to charge public bodies 4 per cent. ansurrisc
individuals 5 per cent. for what Government obtained aptPri
(Hear.) The evidence of Colonel Burgoyne was very