The Sun.
London, England, 1836-06-28 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON; TUESDAY, JUNE 28, IM

present subject.—( Hear, hear.) The Noble and Learned
Lord said that I have been urged by others, that I have been
compelled by parties out of this House, to make the speech
which I have addressed to your Lordships this evening.
In my own justification I will tell the Noble and Learned
Lord this—my opinions are my own.—( Hear, hear, and
loud cheering.) I go as far as I think proper, and
I know myself very little if there is, any one in the world,
or if there is any possible motive, that could force me to
go further than I thought it proper to go. If the Noble
and Learned Lord has heard the contrary from any one
else I beg to inform him it is incorrect ; if the Noble and
Learned Lord has come to such a conclusion on his own
judgment, I beg to inform him his judgment has deceived
him on this occasion. And after this distinct disclaimer
frinn me the Noble and Learned Lord will perceive the pro-
priety of not repeating that imputation. I certainly had
great hopes that the forcible appeal which was made by my
Noble Friend on the cross-benches would have had some
effect, and would have induced your Lordships to have further
considered the step you are about to take. In the speech
which was delivered by my Noble Friend I entirely concur.
I entirely concur in that part of it which vindicated his own
government as it ought to be vindicated, from any intention of
not doing entire justice to Ireland, and not feeling on every
subject connected with that country as warm and as earnest an
interest as it is possible for men to feel.—( Hear, hear.)
With respect to the proposition my Noble Friend suggested,
and which he had not communicated to the Government, I
certainly must say, in candour, that I see some difficulties in
the way of its adoption ; but if Noble Lords on the other
side of the House had shown themselves willing to consider
it, we, also, should have been willing to have given it our
calm consideration.—( Hear, hear.) I cannot, however, con-
sent, according to the suggestion of the Noble Lord, to stop
short in the measure now before us—to postpone the fur-
ther consideration of this measure, which I believe to be
founded on right and justice, and which has for its object the
benefit of the country. I cannot consent to do this for the
purpose of introducing an entirely new measure.—( Hear,
hear.) It is not my intention, at this late hour of the night,
to go into details, but I may remark on one or two points.
The Noble and Learned Lord has made some remarks with
respect to taxation and the imposition of duties on the
Commissioners of those boroughs which have already
accepted the Bill. These contingencies are amply pro-
vided for. Some of the objections which have been urged
must be referred, if I may be allowed to say so, to a high
degree of exaggeration, and will be found to be without
foundation. The reason why the tolls cannot be collected is,
that there exists a general impression as to their misapplica-
tion ; but if their management be entrusted to a body in
whom the people have confidence, there is reason to believe
that there would be no longer the objections to the tolls
which now exist. With respect to the Corporations, and in
particular the Corporation of Dublin, there are many duties,
as was suggested by the Noble Baron the other night, which
it would be necessary to reconsider. On this subject, permit
me to say, that I hope your Lordships will reconsider what
you are doing. The way for you to act is to trust the people
of Ireland—the way for you to act is to trust the great body of
the people. It is the only way to govern the people under a
popular form of government.—(Hear, and cheers.) If you
think these are other evils which may arise, if there be such a
state of circumstances, then you will find other remedies for
those evils. But depend upon it you cannot go back to a sys-
tem of exclusion.—( Haar, and loud cheers .)
Their Lordships then divided :
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Total Majority against the Bill ... 97

On returning to the Gallery, we found
Lord ELL ENBOR 0 UG H moving for the appointment
of a Committee, to draw up the reasons for their Lordships
differing from the Commons' amendments. We understood
him to suggest that their Lordships' Committee should meet
at four o'clock this day, in the hope that on Wednesday they
would be prepared with such reasons as suggested themselves.
He thought it of importance that the communications they
had to make to the Commons should be made as speedily as
possible.
The motion was then agreed to, and the House adjourned
at a quarter past one o'clock.

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