The Sun.
London, England, 1822-04-03 00:00:00

CRIMINALLAW.

' Sir 3. MACKINTOSH, in behalf of an Honourable Friend
of his, postponed a motion on the subject of the Criminal Law,
from thy Ist to the 9th of' May.
POOR RATES ON' CROWN LANDS.

Mr. CALCRA FT called the attention of the Surveyor-Ge-
neral of Woods and Forests to the situation of some parishes
in Kent, 47here land had been newly acquirbd by the Crown.—
In consequence of the land in the hands of the Crown being ex-
empt from Poor's Rate and other burthens, the rest of the
parish was much distressed. He wished to call the attention
of the Right Honourable Gentleman to the propriety of afford-
ing them some relief, which he proposed with the more confi-
d enc!, as it had been done in the case of other parishes. The
parishes he alluded to were Swanscombe and'(Fawkham.)
Mr. HUSKISSON said, there would be no objection to apply
rot as a matter of right, b.., t of indulgence, the principle which
had been applied to other parishes. 'Where the Crown had
newly acquired property, viz. to grant a sum out of the rent
equal to the burthens on the average of seven years before the
Crown came into possession of the land. _ _ _ _

Mr. M. URE brought in a Bill for regulating the Rate of
Interest on West India Seeurities.—Read a filst time, and or-
,iered to be read a second time on the 18th.

Mr. LENNARD postponed the motion of which he had
'given notice for the Repeal of the Seditious Meetings fill to
the ltitir-of May.

DAVIES gave notice that he should to-morrow move
for a Return of the Number and Amount of all Surplus Grants,
with a view to an inquiry into their appropriation. •
ASSIZE OF BREAD.

Mr. C. CALVERT moved for leave to bring in a Bill to re-
lied the Act of the 55th of his late Majesty respecting the
Assize of Bread, and to reduce some of its provisions with those
of all-the Acts touching the Assize of Bread into one Act, and
to add new provisions to the same. The Hon. Member said,
that his object would be principally to prevent the adulteration
of bread, and the selling of breaduShort of measure. Under the
present system bread was not only adulterated but was sold
• short of weight, and the fraudulent baker often compounded with
-the informer for the payment of a weekly or monthly allow-
ance. if the House gave him leave to bring in the Bill, he
• would suggest that it be read a first time to night, and be print-
ed. The Hon. Member , accordingly moved for leave to bring
in-the Bill.

•SrW. DE CRESPIGNY seconded the motion, and ob-
served that the public were much indebted to the lion, Mem-
ber for. bringing the subject forward.
Mr. Alderman SMITH also thought the country were higNly
.indebted to the Hon. Member for Southwark, for having given
his attention to the subject. He thought, however, that in this
instance, informers were a benefit to the public.—Leave was
then given to bring in the Bill.
EXTRA POST.

Mr. S. WORTLEY, referring to the Petition he had pre-
sented yesterday from Mr. Burgess, praying for remuneration,
moved that the Petition should be referred to a Committee.
Mr. F. PALMER opposed the motion. He had been given
distinctly to understand that the experiment relating to the
Extra Post was to be at the sole risk of an individual, and
that the Public wouldhave nothing to do with it. On that as-
surance he had voted with the Chancellor of the Exchequer in
'favour of the measure,,and.found himself in a minority. He
'thought that the petitioner had no claim to compensation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that as
*e Bill for establishing the extra post bad not passed the

House, he thought Mr. Burgess was entitled to some consid-
eration, as he had been encouraged to proceed in consequence
of the progress of the Bill. It had, therefore, never been ascer-
tained whether the experiment would have succeeded or not.
Mr. P. MOORE objected to the motion, as he considered it
an encouragement to speculators. • ,
Mr. C.ALCRAFT thought the House could not be justified
in entertaining any motion which was to lead to an expendi-
ture of the public money for the recompense of this individual.
The Bill had not'passed that House, which would have made
his experiment a legal one ' • and as he had tried, therefore,
without that legal sanction, he did not think it was quite a fair
course to tax the feeling of the House to provide a reimburse-
ment of his expences. They were not so full of money ; and
at all events, if Government had, by the encouragement they
gave to the plan, caused Mr. Burgess to run into expense, it
was their business to recompense him on their own responsibi-
lity.
Mr. N. CALVERT considered, that although Government
should not listen idly to every plan or improvement that was
proposed to them, yet they should not turn a deaf ear. Such
a course would go to exclude every new discovery from bene-
fitting the nation ; and had it been acted upon the plan of Mr.
Palmer regulating the affairs of the Post-Office, as they exist-
ed at the present day, would never have been put in practice,
as the Post-Office of that time was strongly opposed to it. He
thought the fairest way of estimating the amount of remunera-
tion which ought to be paid, would be to send the Petition to
a Committee, where that would be granted, and that only for
which a case sheuld be made out.

Mr. HUME observed, that no compensation was granted to
Mr. Palmer till after the success of his plan. He believed this
was the first application ever made to the House for money,
after the failure of an unauthorised experiment.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER; explained.
. .

Mr. RICARDO was of opinion that Government should
take the responsibility of making any allowance for remunera-
tion on themselves.

Mr. MARRYATT opposed the motion, on the ground that
it would form A precedent for all projectors, which would be
dangerous to the public yurse.
Sir M. W. RIDLEt said the plan was always a bad one,
and the only result of it was, that great inconvenience had been
experienced, and many horses lost in an endeavour to convey
the mail bags with greater expedition. fie should vote against
the motion.

Mr. W. SMITH said he should vote against the motion, be- •
cause he thought that a man claiming remuneration for ex-
pences from that House ought to be able to shew, either that
he bad done some service to the public, or that he had very
good grounds for hoping success from the experiment. The
whole meaning of the experiment of the individual whose claim
was before them was, that he had made a trial of the power of
two horses to carry a two-wheeled vehicle.
After a few words from Mr. BEN NET the House divided :
For the Motion - - 23
Against it - - - 36
Majority against it - —3
SCOTCH JURIES.

Mr. KENNEDY moved for had
of the names and de-
signations of the persons who had served upon Juries m the
Circuits of. the Justiciary .in Scotland for the last ten years ;
and also of those who had served on Juries before the High
Cburt of Justiciary for the same period. . -
Mr. PEEL said, the Hon. Gentleman was calling for re-
turns which would embrace lists of 8,600 names for the one,
and no less than 16,200 in the other. He could not conceive
what advantage to be derived from them could compensate for
the expence of printing all these names, if that were the inten-
tion of the Honourable Gentleman. e understood the object
of the Honourable Gentleman was, to shew how often the
same persons had sat upon Juries. To answer that end, how-
ever, to confine the return to one circuit would be sufficient.
He would leave it to the Honourable Gentleman to name
which circuit.

After a short conversation.betwixt, Mr. KENNEDY and Mr.
PEEL, this suggestion was adopted, and the motion being
*ithdratvn, another was substituted, limiting the return to the
.Western Circuit.
YORKSHIRE ELECTION.

Mr. WYNN gave notice that he would, to-morrow, move for
leave to bring in a Bill to argulateElections in Yorkshire, simi-
lar to that he had moved for last year.

BOARD OF TRUSTEES.-SCOTLAND.

Mr. HUME, in moving for returns relative to the Board of
Trustees in Edinburgh, observed, that it was established by the
Act 8f Union, and was for the purpose'of encouraging the ma-
nufactures of Scotland. A fund was then set apart for that
purpose, but it was no longer applied according to its original
intention. He concluded by moving for " a return of the ex-
pences of the Board of Trustees for the encouragement of ma-
nufactures in Scotland ; the names of the officers and offices,
with the amounts of salaries, and the premiums paid upon ma-
nufactures for the last five years." •
After a few words from the LORD AnvocA,Tg as to the
utility of the office, the motion was agreed to.
Mr. HUME then moved for a similar return of the officers
under commissions for the Herring Fishery of Great Britain,
distinguishing the amount of bounties paid for Scotland and
for England.—Ordered.
The Hon. Member also postponed his motion relative to the
Ionia!) 'lslands from the 14th instant to the 14th May.