The Sun.
London, England, 1849-05-02 00:00:00

SESSIONS.

Sir J. PAKlNGTONasiediiie Secretary of State
for the Home Department, whether the amount of the
recognizances of the Rev. Mr. Crewe, which were es-
treated by order of the Court for non-attendance to give
evidence on a trial at the Michaelmas Quarter Sessions
for Worcestershire, bad been returned to Mr. Crewe by
order of the Treasury; and if so, upon what grounds,
and whether the forms and practise usual at the Trea-
sury and the Home-office on such eccasions were ob-
served in this instance.
Sir G. GREY stated that after an inquiry had been
made into the facts of the case the recognizanees had
been returned by the Treasury to Mr. Crewe. It ap-
peared that he attended the sessions on a day in October,
but as the justices were not all present he returned home
in the evening, a distance of 13 miles, and afterwards
became so unwell that he was not able to return to
Worcester on the following day. The Right Hon.
Baronet, after detailing the universal course adopted in
cases of this kind, stated that in consequence of an acci-
dental omission it had not been followed i❑ the present
instance.
REPORTING THE DEBATES--BREACH OF
PRIVILEGE.

Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL begged to call the attention
of the House to what he conceived was a breach of pri-
vilege. The sessional orders of the House laid down that
strangers were not to be admitted into the House during
its debates, and that its debates should not be reported
without the permission of the House. He was nut
going to argue at all upon the good sense of retaining
such a rule; at the same time, when strangers were per-
mitted to report their proceedings it was but reasonable
that the House should expect them to be fairly and
impartially reported. In a newspaper called
the Times—(Laughter)—a great violation of that
rule took place in the debate which occurred
on the third reading of the Rate in Aid Bill for Ireland.
He believed the proper course would be to call the
printer of that paper to the bar to a nswer for his conduct,
and he (Mr. J. O'Connell) would conclude with a mo-
tion to that effect. He found the proceedings of
last night were regularly set out and reported,
but he found that not only a !great part of what.
Hon. Memirers said was report( •d, that much of
what they did say was omitted, and that a deal
of what they did not say was given.—(Laughter.)
Me found a great deal of what he himself said
was omitted. Now, it might be a matter of no
great importance to the editor of the Times
what he (Mr. John O'Connell) said in that House, but
to himself it was of some importance that he should be
tolerably correctly reported, for he bad a constituency to
vhom he was responsible for his; conduct. He had
observed that the speeches of th.e Irish Members
were not done the same justice to as those of English
Members. He complained that the.t was unfair. Ile did
not know whether the other Irish Members in the House
would longer submit to that pract ice; but he (Mr. J.
O'Connell) for one would not do so. The Hon. Gentleman
concluded by charging the proprietors, printers, and
editors of the Times, and all concerned, with a violation
of the order of the House, and by moving that the
printer of that paper be called to the bar of the House
to answer for his conduct.
Mr. SCULLY seconded the moti an.

'The SPEAKER said he could n otput the motion, in-
asmuch as the Hon. Member had n of given the name of
the printer.— (Laugh ter.)
Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL here 'hurried out of the
House, and returning in a few m cements with a news-
paper in his hand, said the name of Lhe printer was John
Joseph Lawson.—(Laughter.)
The SPEAKER put the motion that John Joseph
Lawson he called to the bar of the 15 ouse to-morrow.

Mr. F. O'CONNOR did hope tint Honourable Gen-
tleman would spare the time of the House.
If any Member had a right t o complain of his
speeches nut being impartially report ad, he himself had
that right, but he did nut think it. w orth his while to
complain to the House on a matter of that kind.
Sir GEORGE GREY said, cot isidering the cir-
cumstances under which their de bau were reported,
that the gentlemen who were engage' I in that basiness
had a mere permissive right to re pot t the proceedings,
which was clogged with some distidvantages, he hoped
the Hon. Gentleman would not doanjtl ling to cast censure
on the reports of the debates in the public journals. He
(Sir G. Grey) himself was not in th, ) habit dreading the
debates; he generally contented hi inself with reading
those admirable summbries of the proceedings of the
House which of late years had been,
.given is the public
journals, and which contained a mo st fair and impartial
resume of the debate. _

Mr. BROTHERTON said, with regard to the real
question before the House, he reall. r thought the Times
was a most accurate paper indeed ; he was sometimes
quite surprised to see the accur my with which it
gave the debates. There was a a other paper, how.
ever, which he could not say t. to much for, and
that other paper was the Daily News, which
had represented him to have stated in
wasthe
House that his last election cost hi m 4,0 0o , which
wholly untrue. The tact was he bad been elected five
times for Salford, and on no one at tituse occasions had
his election cost him a
penny piece. —o:fear, hear.) He
made a practice of never paying cawthing for his elec-
tions, and he knew most of his friends disbelieved the
rep',rt, and he did not care much a but it it.—(Laughter.)
Mr. J. O'CONNELL said what he complained of was
that the speeches of 1ri,.11 Members we re not given fully.
The Right Hon. Baronet being an rEng.itth Member had
nothiag to complain of in that .resi ect, but he corn-
,p,tal.tiintteedd, twhahtileamuch of what he ,did say was entirely
great deal of what he did not say
had been put in.—(Hear, hoe:, and laughter.)
If the Ilou:e wished to ~et rid of the, rule to which he
had directed attention, vet
them ,b,r,,gate it at once ;
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withdraw ?rmitbi sQrs motion; Eor
tbuthe
if the offence were repeated, he silculd not deal with it
so lightly.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. G. BERKELEY suggested that the Hon. and
Learned Member had better send hit t speeches to the
papers, instead of making them in the . House.—(Hear.)
The motion was then withdrawn.

MR. LAYARD'S DISCOVIIRIES.
Sir J. PAKINGTON wished to ask the Chancellor
of the Exchequer, whether it was the i ntention of her
Majesty's Government to assist Mr. La; lard in his dis-