The Sun.
London, England, 1809-04-14 00:00:00

OGD

John Chisholm and ~inn Qiirtis were indiaed Capi-
tally, tar robbing 'William Williatnft on the 17t11 of
March last. Wiliiants, ti.e Prosecotnr, htated that
he was an. Irishman,,alid on St. Patrick's Day last he
dined at. the Crown and Anchor Tavern, in the
Strand, with his countrymen: About 12 o'clock he
left the Tavern, and went to Nortiturnberland.‘trret

with a friend, when h- came to ihe Strand, he was
so far intoxic.lted that he could not find his way to
Westminster-bridge, and, IS he apprehendi-d, he
turned the wrong way, and got towards Somerset-
House. He met a woman, and asked her his way to
Westminster-bridge. She wok his arm, and led him,
as he afterwards discovered, to a court in Catherine-
street, in the Strand: He was taken to the door of
a house and pushed into a room, in which there was
a candle, but whether there was any one behind
Lim he could not say. As soon as got it) o tit! room,
he received a violent blow on the nose,. but he could
not say' whether from a fist, or by his falling against
a chair, He became insensible for a short time,
and when he recovered his senses, he found himself
in the dark, his nose bleeding profusely, his coat
taken
,from his . back, and his i‘ °diets .reflect of his
watch and money. He got to the door end called
the watch. The watchman immediately carne up,
and soon afterwards three or four, Bow -St reet. off ..
ie icers
admitted.he ,was toadrnitisto know the person
of the woman bo took hien to the house, and, be
had no I.,Collettion of seei.g any man at all.

Donaldson Li:nOrta, 1)No 130-N7strect OfFF44
eels, cootirnied siaternnt 1s :o his being found
in the room, and they
.catne up. on his e.ilting the
watch. Knowing tbe haunts of the, wotnan ,irnioner
(g;uitk), they innnediately went to a night-lionse in
the neighbanrhood, where they .found her, As
soon al irh tlwtn hhe crnii;:ed a tk at-C,h, which
DonilibiOn pi! d up,,-awl, it'4Bs proved to h the
watch Proutor. . `they took tlle.o her Pri-
sotwrisCht,tiohn; into custody, hec:iuse they frond'
,him lurking about the do, r, but Li ere iva4 no evi.
deuce 3alust him. Verditt—Cartii., Guilty, Cliffs.;
holier Aot •
Eviin Voilfun initiated fore bur Lary
in the hon..e of Robert Chandler on the 27th of
11Ln:h. Lit.

Robert Chandkr, jun. deposed, that his father
kept a silver :int,iiiit4 shop in 146re:4er-square. On
the 2711101 Marai, as he was sitting in the sh* be
Award one of the windows broken, tti' tb,,tigh a ,i‘and
bad been vhileotly thrust thiongh it : he 1011 to Ibe
doer, and saw the Prisoner withdrawing his hand
from the broken pane, with two gravy spoons in its
he immediately seizi.ll him. A cun•dable os sent
for, and I,ie. wai taken tO4 the watch•lionse,
was
This .
cotairtited by another witness and the
Constable. The Constable said, thates the Prisoner
was going to Marll;roron4hrsifeet • the' next day, he
knocked him down.. But he could out escape, as
he was hand-eutied to another prisoner.
In defence, -Mr. Ciirwood callo,l .everal witnesses
to y!rove the prisol - r insane.
"Innen Keats: il'o ,),ptity Surgeon:General to
the Forces, 1-,2;d ti.- ~,.i.,,:icr 4,4,1 i)' n'Assistant-
Surgeon to the ,;trill it,..,iiitellt. It;
.; ust last lte
was sent~ hung, tion't IVI,-.t,,;a, tuid 1 1 ,:•': If pay,
..
in ennsegnence uf u.;diii,y.. He harlal n bin)
several times lately, and in his nOittior ~#.f.tas de-
ran4ed. The witnes otijOled to his bei
..,gails put.
tv
on tolt pay, on the ground that be was ow L:oitipe-
tent to do hia duty.
Mr. Newman, the Keeper -if Newgate, staral,
that from his =nitro sines; he Itad..been in pttstm,.
lie b,,lieved bin) to be insalie.

Robert Benno, a waiter, end is chambermaid from
the Zelie:Savage Inn, dvposedi tlot he 114 d bee► in
'heir hon.& ttn clays, and, from his condod µ 11.1 e
.►here, hay behevcd him_ to be insane.

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Tilt: Lel:tined Jtidge (TirewrsuN) told the Jury, , .
thin it they belieired him to be insane at the time. he
committed t44.,11tEt they would acquit him.
'l'lle Jkiry found him Nut Cidlig,. and he was or.
tiered to be kept U) custody und‘4 the late Act of
Parliament. I „ .

igen Iftgson and Thomas Morris' were cativiaed
of tic: fling a coat,; and Samuel ,Gatdimer and Ann,
leis ~ti ift:, were acquitLld oil a charge of privtely
life:Wing in a dwelling-housn.• At the :latter verd4
some of the al,idience •ci lived their haudg, upon
whirl) on of.thetn 'watt ta4en into custody, and by
the Judge
,donnitted to Newgate.

MA PI 010 N-H0t1515.--Yesterd If V hone
eltrilFd with tieing -concerned u ith utheis in Afeat-
ittg 05.-ifololli, 01 vj'iluilbie, .lioo ft F.; ti le For city dt
Mr. Fi4elt4, ui ilie-Pusi-odice', was examined be:-
fore the Ltiltn NlAyou. Some parsons appearing tip
the ell:::lnt!..i.ter tit tilt. Prisont'r, Ile yati cldwittod to bail
till thc uther per,obs.conct.rtted-tin.l,ll 6t4 foond.

LUND:)N: P.ll,
At Lie bi/N,Okk

LUTES OF EY7:62NCE,
Taken before a Committee of the House of Coma ‘olls on

the Patronage ot the East 104 Lompany.

[Ccotilotied froOi our Pa* of Yeittrday.)
MR. JERREMIAH JAMES REDING.
What conversation had you with Mr. Davies
upon that subjed ?—The conversation I had with
Mr. Davies was. a party wanted a sum of money,
but the other ptirty were to give a Seat, and this .
money was to et) hi that sort of negotiation.
Was the sum of money to procure any appoint,-
mem under the East India Company ? —Yes, in hue
shape; but the the seat was to be given to these Who
could get that appoitnment made,
Was a Wiitei ship to be procured by the sum of
money to be so given ?—Not without getting a
seat as remuneration for the' Writership, which did
not, take place, and it died. away.:,
By whom was the money to be given for the
:Writershipl,4-By Mr. Livie.
Where does he live?—ln the city.
':,Where Friars.
What is he. ?—A very honourable 'and honest
man, a respectable man,. a merchant.
To' whom was he to give this sum of money for
the Writership was to give this mil ,of mo-
;ney to pay part of it .to me, part' to Mr. Davies,
another part was. to go `to Mrs. Grove, a relat ion, I
do not believe to herself exactly, but to a poor re. ;
!anion.
It was to be paid into her hands I—l do . not
know that, she never said.that me, nor Ito her.
What was the sum- ot money to be paid ?,—The
sum of money to be paid was, as near as I can recoi-
led. 30001; or guineas; and this Mr. Davies; whoM
I. dtd W. know Isis enaratier at that time, took to
himself to shoot up 5001. in addition, on which ac-
count
.FdreppA the subject I met them at Lloyd's
Cotfee-hotise; I tieyer saw Mr. Lim before be in-
; troduced bun to me. Though Mr. Livie is thy
plaintitf'now, and holds use in custody, he is a very
honest,' honourable matt.
Did he pay any money, or deposit any money
upon this account ?—I do not know that he depu-
sited pity money upon this account.
Did he pay any money upon this account ?—Not
that I know ot.
Have you received any money of him upon this
account ?--Not upon this account; but I received a
sum of money,. for w hich I. gave him my note of
band ; I borrowed it of him; for winch lie has my
note of band, and upon which he holds me now in.
custody.
What sum is that ?--10001.
How long have you known Mr. Livie I—l can-
not say exactly what part of the Year 180(i, or
whether it was the latter end of 1805. Nut know-
ittg what business I way called here upon, if I am
permitted to examine my papers, I will be more
' coned.
Have you. any papers relating to this, or any.
transaaion of the battle kind, in your custody 1-4
do net know that I have : I cannot say whether I
• have or not.
What was the first occasion of your lequaintance,
was introduced to lion by Mr.
Davies.
Had you any other transadion ar businesS with
Mr. Livie but this ?—Mr. Livie and I the.
of visiting e.s43h other, anti Mrs. Livie visited
Mrs. I.l,:ding atter this introdOtion.
Was lit ,upon Mr. Davies's introduction that
your acquaintance and visiting commenced ?---It was.
Did Mr. Davies intrOdnce you any utter pur-
poise but that of negotiating this buNiuesS of the.
Winership, and the searin Parlennelit ?—I do not
know.that,w. Davies knew any thing about the
seat in Parliament..
DA „he introduce you for any other purpose but
,that of negociating the Writership ?7--I do not
think he did, I believe that was the origin of the
subject.
\Vas the loan made, to you, a considerable time
before y. 41 gaye the promissory note ?-=-Vronv this
ciremmtanee, that I now explain, it Illtl3l have been.
'How I,:ng atter your acquamtance with this
denial!, dtd he make you the loan 61 wool. ?-1
cannot gqe a plain answer, without reference to my
119culfielits.
At the time this money was lent to you, did•you
• sioposse you should be called upon to repay it • to
Liviel—Certainly I I never borrowed money
of any man that I have nut puitl, but this, and I
wilt pay this as soon as I can.
Did'yots not suppose that this obligation watt° be.
-discharged in , some other way, and not by lepay.
ment of the sum itself the thing which I have
just explained had taken plate, that is, if the par.
ties had been satisfied, die one patty to givet the
Writership, and the other the sett, I dare say it is
possible that I shotdd not have been called upon ;
but as that did not take place, :I had a right to pay
this Gentleman his money.'
Did you expect at the time the. money was lent
' you, you should be called upon to repay this suit),
of nsone► 3,4 did expeCt to pay it certainly, if the
thing did nut go on; it the thing went on, I should
not have paid it.
Did you expect the transaction to goon ?—I did.
Then it you expected the transadion to go on,
did you exped to .be called upon to repay the
rtiquey certainly not, if the: thing was coal-
, pleted.
What was the understood' condition of this.agree-
mem ?-e-That if the one had not the seat, the other
was • not to have the Writership; that was the way
I understood it.
Through whose means was the Writership to be,
, procured ?-;-.1 beg to ask permission, if it is not too
great a favour,. to wait, till I -examine my accounts.
AnsWer to the best of your recollection
Writership was to be received from one of tne
Memberi,of the Board of Coutroul originally, It
is a thing that r have no wish to displease this House
in, in any shape whatever, bat it tti hard 1 shOuld
1)e-obliged to Ilis4se the *seta.
It is necessary you should .disclose every thing.
you know ; throtigh which of the Members'of the
139ard of Comma did you understand this ap-
pointment was lobe obtained a--The Earl,of Clan-
catty. . . . •
How did you know
.it was to be obtained through
his means ?—I waited' upon' his Lordship and he

wrote to we aftprwaiJs to come it, him, wrote to
another Nobleman, a friend •of At-
_ _

Who was that other Nobleman It Noble-
man Is now dead ; it was the Marquis of 41igo,
You wrote to him had tlib honour of being
very intimate with him; told him,. if this one
thing .could be done, would manage to Mist
friend to get tile other.",
Which was io,be got fol. his friend, the Writer:-
ship or the seat in Parliament :—The seat in Parlig-
ment.

he give you any letter to Lord Clunearty ?
None ; the Marquis of .Sligo called at-my hou%e at'
ditlerent times,' and we conversed upon this subje&,
and I received a letter to cotne to the Board of Con-
troul. . . •

From whom was that letter ?—Lord Clancarty.
Before I obeyed- thii note, I waited upon the Mar-
quis of Sligo, and told hid.) I had a letter ; he said,
I know yob 'have; -it is my. man. I did- not know
Lord Clancarty-at 'that time. In consequence of
this letter, I came to the Board of Cancroid-, awl
several steps- 'of negociation took place respeaing
this seat and this thing. I: did not know that I was'
doing wrong, for it was not selling the seat. .

THE EARL. OF CLANPARTY.
• •
In consequence of the examination:. of Mr. Re-
ding, in which your Lordship's name was mentioned
frequently, I am desirous in- the firSt place to know
• when you•became acqnainted with Mr. Reding
About the month of Oaober, 1805,
On what occasion did you first become atquainted-
with that "person?—With respect .to obtaining a seat,
in Parliament.
Did you see him frequently upon that occasion ?
—Three, tbur,•or five tinaet; more than tWice. cam=
tainly.
Did he hold out, that be had the power of procur-
ing a seat in Parliament ? He did ; he represented
that a friend of his in Parliament, a very respoctable
man, was desirous of retiring from Parliament, bat
wished to make that retirement subservient to the
objea of obtaining a situation for a young man, a
relative of his, either a son or a nephew', lathe best.
of my recolledton, and stated that it a Writershil)
could be obtained for the party, be would be willing
to retire. Having no wish to save any, expenee,tw-.
on my part, and having no Writership to. dispose of,
the neAo.iition at thin time closed.
Was this neiptiation renewed with, Mr. Reding,
and a tau what orcason ? was. having men-
tion, d :he ciriAmstance to my friend, -Lord Castle-
reagb;and expressing great disappointment that oe,
Seat could not be obtained, he told sue that he had,
Writership undisposed of, which, as far as he
himself was concerned, he shotild be very happy to.
give me the recommendation to) stating at the same.
time,. the necessity of the most minute inquiry into
the chatatier of the party to be recommended; at ie r
various interviews with Mr. Reding, in order f v obtain
from him the name of the party who was to retire,
as well as of the person to be recorat nended, and not
being able to obtain either, the negotiation altoge-
ther closed.

Did Mr. Reding, drtring.any part of this negotia-
tion, offer a bond to your Lordship
Did he at any time offer money for this appuint—
Mem •?....-When the negoe,iation had elosed, as to die
Writership, he asked me whether three ttionsand,.
guineas, laid on. Lady Cienearty's toilette, would in-.
duce me to give him the Writership, whit l vent
iodignantly refused ; after wiiich.l now Sakir him in
my horse: once, nor any where except meeting him
accidentally at Lord Sligo's.
Did any thing pass between your LordshiP and
Mr. Reding, ,at -.Lord Sligo's ?—Yes, Lady Clan-
early, two or three days atter I had tlitt.i dismissed
Mr. Reding, received a letter, ,signed,
C Irlotte Johnson, offering her 30001. er guineas,
for her itifluen6e with use. to procure a, Writership, •
and appointing n shop in the Strand to meet the
party and receive the .money. This .letter was of
course put' n the tire, withoi4 any notice beii,g
taken of it; but the sum tallying so exactly with
that Mr. Reding had offered, and coming so im-
mediately atter Mr. Reding's propoSal of the same
nature, when I. met him at Lord Sligo's, I desited
him to take care not to allow his friends to write
any more impertinent letters to Lady Clanearty ;
and hen' he wrAgone out of the room, I apolo-
gized to Lord Sligo for having made WU of such
language to a person in his .honse, and informed
hint of the reasons for my so doing. Mr. Reding,
however, denied having any thing to say to letter.
Did he ever give you to understand at Whose dis-
posal this seat in Parliament was which he otrered
you?,--No, never; it was upon that the negotiatiou
went off. .
Did Lord Castlereagh. offer ,you this appointment
Of a Writership for the purpoge of facilitating your
being returned to Parliament, if that viola be ob-
tained by this means ?—Certainly ; it being always
lobe understood that the party was of sufficient re.;
spe&ability to be eligible for the situation.
Did you cumin .incate to Mr.teding that you had',
a Wriwrship at your disposal, which you were ready
to give to friend if the pertion`recominended Was
pertedly eLgibl4, provided the Seat in Parliatneut
could be obtained certainly gave him to un-
derstand that I had; or that the thing migla be
,procured. •
Did you ever dispose of any Writership ?—Never
in my life.
Do you recolleEt whether the name of Mr. Grove
was mentioned in any part of this transaaion by
Reding never. .
Did you ever hear from Reding the name or the
Marquis of Sligo, mentioned as connoted with the
transaaion ?;--Never.

Or the Mavis of Bath ?-I\T,ever I believe a
name of any sort was mentioned to me. .
Do you know to whom this Writ4i Ship, ()tiered
to yourself, was afterwards given by Lord Castle-
reagh ?—.I have nut the least knowledge.

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