The Sun.
London, England, 1836-04-22 00:00:00

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Dublin had placed himself before the Committee in the wit_
Hess chair; but neither the Hon. and Learned Member for
ewtaat,grinotr 'the Hon. and Learned Member for Huntingdon
had 1 ,
proper to ask any questions. There was another
matter on vhieli-, too, he thought the Hon. and Learned Gen-
tlema
to Mr evo'uld wish to have adverted, namely, the offer he made
Raphael of a Baronetcy.—( Hear, hear.) On the
!tiornints of that day on which the offer was made there. mutt
have
sumo
aetu in the hands of the Hon. and Leirned
Member the
Lion. ,000/. or 1,200/.—(Loud cheers from the Opposi-
-1
' He might have explained from what source he was
autlkerised so to reward the merit of Mr. Raphael---,wlo, ‘lnd
Panted him permission to dip his hand into the Itnntain of
Raphael.
,for the purpose of crowning the exaltx4 'merits of Mr.
Puael• The Hon. Member concluded by moving the first
resolution :
" That it appears in the evidence reported by the Com-
mittee appointed to inquire into the circumstances under which
Alexander Raphael, Esq., was returned a Member for the
county of Carlow at the election in June last that an agree-
ment in writing was concluded between Daniel O'Connell,
C! , a Raphael, Ms
follows:
ember of this llouse, and the said Alexander.
a

"MY dear " ' Clarges-street, June I, 'IS.
posed to Sir,—You having acceded to the term 0 s
pro-
Yell you for the election of the county of Marlow, viz.,
are to pay before nomination 1,000/., sm.; one thousand
Pounds, and a like sum after beiiig returnea ; the first to he
Paid absolutely and entirely for being nt,minated ; the second
t,o_ be paid only in the event of your having been returned—
any undertake to guarantee and save you harmless from
any
. and every other expence venatsoever, iwhether of agents,
ages, counsel, petition ag -hist the return, or of any other
escription ; and I
orhonourable enga make tlT;is guarantee in the fullest sense
be the
oement that you should not possibly
r•
any
nenqnuitirieigctentonypay cr.ie shilling more in any event, or upon
whatsoever.
" ' I ''..m, my dear Sir, your very faithful
" ' DANIEL O'CONNELL.
" ' Ale`lander Raphael, Esq.' "
th r* It- Colborne and Mr. O'Connell rose together, but
e cries for Mr. O'Connell prevailed, Mr. R. Colborne giv-
lap; Way,
hi Mr. O'CONNELL said it was with regret that he intruded
%self upon the House at that moment; but as he intended
alot be present at any more of the discussion, he felt it right
'too address the few words he had to offer before the matter pro-
Zeeded further. He rose the more readily upon the occasion,
th:ause be had an exceedingly pleasing duty to perform in
first place, and that was to offer the meed of his most re-
11Pectful, most humble, but most sincere thanks, to the gentle-
t4lhe_eo, f all parties who composed the committee before which
bene narge of the Hon. and Learned Member for Bradford had
heard and determined.—(Hear, hear.) He had never
tF gentlemen attending with more care, keeping their Atten-
.li°l More Perfectly alive, or displaying more of the air of corn-
Zpikete iMpartiality than those members of the committee did,
ue differed from him in general political opinions.—( Hear,
4he If, indeed, he were called upon to make a choice be-
`Ween the attendance of either one party or the other—which
be could not—he should feel bound to express his thanks for
what e
appeared to be the more delicate superiority of attention
on th part of those who differed from him in politics. He
t d°u4nd Learned Member for Bradford that evening.—( Hear.) He
1-
not
respondedow whetter the tone and temper of that speech cor-
but after with The feelings of English gentlemen generally ;
vvhal gentle he had witnessed of the conduct of English
("ear
on this Committee, he did not believe it did.--•
m„
) He certainly did not think that there were many
gentiCanen in the House wh
and
would coincide in the unhapy
Ilai:iblings and unfortunate d manifold contradictions of himp-
Z4lf, into which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman fell in the
ettllr)sediodf his Address. It was
.. quite true that he (Mr. O'Con-
-et say on a former occasion, that the Hon. and Learned
rs-4ernber for Bradford had acquitted him of the charge of pe-
4iaTY corruption. He (Mr. O'Connell) said that on the
t
Neceasion on which the subject was brought forward, and
eat did the Hon. and Learned Member for Bradford do ?
said now that he (Mr. O'Connell) had been guilty of pe-
icuniary corruption ; b what did e then? e enied it.
.Ilear, hear.) " Heut (exclaimedh Mr.say O'Connell H) d
—be—the
alernber, for Bradford talk about my character. He under-
elftands bribery, and I told him so, and he did not deny it.—
-a, hear.) He has never denied it, although he has since
aa ne ortu *ty of doing so ; and if he denies it now—
if h
b "e denies°PtiPow that he demoralized Pomfret by spending
Pwards 1)151000/. for his election there—l will move for a
gz'olnlittee to inquire into the matter, and then let him, and
let the
abut Hon. Member for Carlow, who talks so disinterestedly
L
~73‘, enarneter, come forward to support me--let the Hon.
-- Learned Member for Bradford, if his conscience be clear,
'etlihdallenge, in the case of Pomfret, that inquiry from which Ila not shrink in the case of Carlow.—(Cheers.) I have been
kitelY in the neighbourhood of Pomfret, and I have now no
aioluebt that it would be fully in my power to prove the facts I
geVS against the Honourable Member on a former occa-I
8i°04,, and which he did not then contradict.--( Hear, hear.) ,"t not trouble the House at any length. It is not my pur-
siTse to follow the Honourable and Learned Gentleman
FrOu...l_
0,,, Len the rhodomontade of a speech which I have heard
that im' misquoting, mistaking, misrepresenting everything
4,l3.Peared before him.--( Hear, hear.) A tissue of more
~13!ellIteated misrepresentations could not, indeed, have been
°Belivered for the edification of my libellers--( Hear, hear)—
giiThei.Of whom I may say, perhaps, the. prime mover of all
hi rag to earn the wages allowed by his party, has employed
Ite„,elf in cooking up the speech which this evening we have
l'h;" ° impressively' delivered.—(Cheers and laughter.)
of Hon• and Learned Member for Bradford has spoken
evide°atradictions in the evidence; lie says that Mr. Baker's
the-wene,e contradicts one of my letters. How does he
settled tne contradiction? I stated in my letter that I never
e(oiniso,:tnrtaililly account with Mr. Baker, and then he finds that
Ingo, °` nIY money found its way into the hands of that gentle-
an , This is one of the mighty contradictions which he has
been endeavouring to impress upon the House:—
thQta" "ear.) Do I complain of the preposterous view which
solemn-earned Gentleman has taken of the evidence ? No. I
leetlY declare that I think it is owing to the sort of intel-
iast '3 possesses. There is about the Learned Gentleman
or enders `Bat extent of milid which renders him incapable of seeing
,ah
ritanding the question before him.—( Cries of " Oh,
before chee'es.) The Hon. and Learned Member had
t
th - 'hal every document and every species of evidence
teens Tip_ elucidate or explain the nature of the tran.sacd
that th 'lad had with my bankers. The Committee decide that 40 account should not be looked into ; but the moment
eouttr."e Hon. and Learned Gentleman found that the ac-
lltetti,-bwa_,B a partial one, he came forward and stated that I had
hided that a partial account. Although the Committee de-
I tnat,my
banker's account should not be looked into,
znittillishect it, and I appeal to every member of the Com-
I h ee whether I did not furnish the whole of it.—( Hear, hear. )
hunall,ded it over to the Hon. and Learned Member for
Party:l°ooll (Sir F. Pollock) as the nominee of the opposite
W end be with great delicacy took it home with him, and.,
1,h...., afterwards assured me, looked only to those paits ?f it
tttivt° bore immediately upon the subject under investigation ;
40
grtoned it from hegionion•
oeungte will tell the House that I placed the whole of the ac-
exam. in bis hands, and with my full consent he might have
to end.—( Hear, hear.) There is
special °lid or pretence, therefore, for the miserable species of
set 1, 'heading which the Learned Member has attempted to
aikys ylPon the pecuniary part of the transaction. Then he
bpot was called upon for a balance. I never was called
brae for a balance. I was called upon from time to time for
theta.3's'a'd paid moneys when I was called upon to pay
Inoo„ whal do the Committee say ? "It appears that the
hardj,. ' was placed to Mr. O'Connell's general account at his
it wa-s's in London. It was, however, advanced the moment
Paid i ai_l.led for to Mr. Vigors ; and though some of it was
Wasav° ?Ilia, the discount was allowed ; the amount, theref?re,
ititerestadable whenever wanted, and no charge of pecuniary
I eater ean be attached to Mr. O'Connell."—( Hear, hear.)
xiiittea ilnto this not as a defence. The report of the C.orn- ti tw,ivs nly defenee.—( Hear, hear.) The unanimous. opinion
---(ch e Honourable Gentlemen of this House is my defence.
Itl 4„..",r8.) The Hon. and Learned Member's speech is
It isru'al from the report of the Committee.—( Hear, hear.)
is a liet a question between him and me at all.—( Hear.) It
1 harestion between him and the Committee.—( Hear, hear.)
atte4 already expressed my thanks to that Committee for the
Wheth" which they paid to my case, and to every Member_
ahan ether I had the honour of knowing him before or not—l
laY haetertainly for the future pay the courtesy of taking off
cause 0 henever I meet him-_(A laugh, and cheeis;)—be-
-1%1,1 am Proud, notwithstanding the strong party zeal and
°Nil* Lad ingredients which exist in this House, the
party Ie does still contain gentlemen who, whatever their
that th elings may be, feel as gentlemen and men of honour,
xs•ere °Y were bound to do their duty impartially when they
called
phlion, upon to act as judges.—( Hear, hear.) But the
, iraindh.L,,earned Gentleman says I was not examined myself,
-ow he -`. come forward to prove any part of my own case,
(bliear,
hvieoaur.ld, taunt me with having been my own witness
;ill h,trisof lu He would then have said, " Oh, Mr. ?'C'on-
'her . s pplied every deficiency of the evidence ; when
l)Le'eenovlelltlnpeslaseesde(.ald not speak to particular facts, MI-,
ailirtri hitasof
~.e . himself in the witness's chair, and spoke to
Nivltilnit frr,_ ' --(Hear, hear.) If on the other hand I had
this
y, t' 'n examination hear.)
what would he then have said ?
the Y-eight be dare not to face the Committee. Feeling that
tit. eanirniv said? I went into the witness chair, in order that
;,ear
to mete.e, gilt have the opportunity of putting ques-
_.erned Gentle
it thought proper so to do, The lion. and
%Ille, an, "1., leman who acted as nemince on the opposite
la a (.1 '• ho vvas well known to be one of the ablest prartlz
tae at the
itol.:inar, did not deem it necessary to examine
iltv4hvie-htnataS see
ni negcitt lign-p Voel
He might, if he had thought proper,
stress the Learned m ;lie subject of the baronetcy, upon
04: tie_ .He did _O. Mc for Bradford has laid so much
tt,l7hi,nsor I!
.t ao so ; neither did the Honourable Gen-
„ Partsot th.... Ilat. any questions to me upon the subject. Not
thea
ei t'i'; Is it right that it should go abroad to-morrow
peb,Xtor„ia_ 7;Psech, amidst the ribaldry of the Times arid
tit...4040ns 1-0 t--the managers of which two veritable
110/1k shoultr nowe now, no doubt, present—is it right that an
ta
ti.,ead
Learned be made against me, in the words of the
cannot atee,_ Member for Bradford ?It is true that I
ri'lllse he has" rtesPect the words that fall from him, after the
Leer' after sheaf en ; but I appeal to the House, whether it is
cha; Prelim,4ir opportunities of explanation which have
all
.ge arr,,,,s:Y afforded, that he should now, by raking up the
duct?
are
be giv i n,...
8 a sort of impunity to those who, at
thect; wase,rteady enough to vilify and to condemn my con-
piar.4-.eartied S'iere ever so paltry an excuse as that made by
Zaln..._ ein bringing'ember to-night, for the delay which had taken
st 4x, :i this motion forward ? Was ever a charge
Fetnbx, eks, urrkeiber of this House postponed for a month or six
er frivolous
eetii to,mr,h a p.e s ..at
1 a a tb advanced by the Learned
13 e. or ') t • ( Hear, hear.) The plea was one of that
eard at rather desperate character, which one occasionally
(platter sessions.—( Hear, hear.) It had no sub-