The Sun.
London, England, 1849-08-01 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

110 USE OF LORDS, July 31.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Mr. BERNAL appeared at the bar of the House, and
brought up the Bankruptcy Bill, Poor-law Bill, and
stveral other I anit private Bills.
The House then adjourned the public business till
Five o'clock.

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY resumed the Woolsack at
Five o'clock.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from cer-
tain of the inhabitants of Westminster, praying
for the adoption of sanitary measures ; alto
a petition from Rochester praying for the en-
forcement of the treaties for . the abolition
of slavery entered into with Spain and the Brazils, and
for the exclusion of slave groan produce; also a peti-
tion from Dublin against the abolition of the Law of
Attachment; and a petition from Mary Walker, of
Bristol, complaining of gross misconduct on the part of
the officers of the County Court in that city
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EDUCATION-MANAGEMENT CLAUSES.
Lord LYTTELTON asked whether any particular
system of management is n quirk d in schools connected
with the British and Foreign School Society, the Wes•
leyan Methodists, and the Free Kirk of Scotland, on the
part of the Committee of Privy Council as an indisi:wn-
sable condition of their receiving aid from the public
grant?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that the manage-
ment clauses wore enforced with regard to all sects as
well as with regard to the members of the Church of
England.
After a few words from the Earl of HARROWBY,
the subject dropped.
ORANGE PtiOCESSIONS IN IRELAND.—THE

DOLLY'S BRAE AFFAIR.
The Earl of RODEN rose for the purpose of offering
explanations with regard to the tragic occurrences at
Dolly's Brae on the 12th of July.—(Hear, hear.)
There was no individual who more sincerely
regretted the collision which then took place
or the melancholy results of the condition. In another
place his conduct had been greatly misreprezented in
relation to this melancholy occurrence. It had been said
that he (the Earl of Roden) was answerable for the
murders which then took place. It had been stated
that he had assembled and feasted the Orangemen in
his park, and supplied them with beer, porter, and
whisky, and had there addressed them in a rambling
and inflammatory speech. There was no foundation
whatever for the change, and he would state to their
Lordships the circumstances of the case as they really
occurred. In 1846 the Processions Act expired,
and their Lordships knew how attached the lower classes
of the Irish were to processions. In 1848 their existed
in Ireland a spirit of rebellion ; there was then a great
exertion made by the Noble Earl who so admirably
governed Ireland to put down that r‘bellion, and he
succeeded. There was not a loyal man in Ireland who
did not feel grateful to Lord Clarendon. There were
many among the lower orders, as well as among the
upper orders, who were opposed to the repeal
of the Union, and when the 12th of July came it
was thought right that there should be a demonstration,
in order to show to the kingdom that there were
large numbers of loyal Orangemen of all classes
who were opposed to the repeal. About a fortnight
before the 121 of July he was informed that the
°rang. men were desirous of visiting him on that day.
He endeavoured to dissuade them tram assembling, or
calling on him. The gentlemen said they would be much
disappointed, and that if they did nut call upon him they
would meet elsewhere. Ile took two days to consider,
and considering that they wished to manifest their at-
tachment to him, he told the gentlemen that he thought
if they were determined to assemble, they would be
safer in his park than elsewhere, and he would not
shut his gates againbt them. On the 12th of July
2,000 Orangemen, accompanied by their wives and chil-
dren, arrived at his park end defiled before him in the
most orderly and quiet manner; no doubt some of them
were armed, but he knew not that one of them was
armed until he saw them there. Ho did not think
that it was any wrong for thein to be armed
On the 17th of March the Rtbandmen appeared armed,
and had fired a volley as they passed his gate,
and no attempt had been made to stop them,
and had he entertained the idea that the fact of some of
the persons being armed made it an illegal proces-
sion he would not have suffered it. Toe number
armed only amounted to about 200 out of 2,000. The
procession went to the end of his park ; and he
telt it his duty to go with them, in order to
prevent the commis ion of indiscretion, and to show
them that the gentry were willing to stand by them.
It was said that he feasted them with beer, porter, and
whisky ; the only refreshment supplied to them was
bread and cheese and small beer. It was also said
that he harangued them; he had addressed them, and
he would read to their Lordships what ho bad said; it
had been taken down at the time.

" My dear Brethren,—l am anxious to express how
grateful I feel for the spontaneous and unsolicited visit
to me this day, on the occasion of our glorious anniver-
sary. I feel that this is the most gratifying mark of
your affection and attachment which you could have
bestowed upon roe and my family. The thousands of
loyal men that I see around me—the waving banners of
50 lodges—the dense multitude, too great for any voice
to reach—the magnificent scenery by which we are
surrounded—the mountains of Morrie echoing to your
shouts—Slieve Dunard, the mistress of the tu all, looking
down upon our proceedings—the waters of the Shimna
11 iwing beneath us, carrying the testimony of your
loyalty to au. ocean before us, make it a gloi ioua sight—
one in which I wish every loyal men could have joined
us to-lay—one which I should delight in thinking that
(Yen the se opposed to us were here to witness. But,
much as I thank you fur this visit, I feel the honour was
not so much intended to me personally as to those Pro-
testant principles which I hold, and which I have
endeavoured to maintain for a period of thirty years'
residence amongst you. I have learned, ant am con-
vinced, that it is true Protestant princ.p!es, held up
and maintained in this land, that can alone prove a
guarantee for the liberties of all classes and denomina-
tions of the people; it is the right of private judg-
ment in the study of God's holy word which is the
chief blessing of any nation which avails itself of it. It
is for this princitis Oresegeinen contend, and which, I
trust, they will never cease to assert, acting under the
teachings of God's word, which enjoins forbearance and
hue to all. I trust you will even show to those who dis-
approve of your organization that you are not a faction,
driven by party violence to commit unlawful sets ; that
you do not desire to infringe on the liberties and happi
ness of others ; but that you wish to see ell denomina-
tions of your fellow-subjects enjoying the blessings
which you seek for yourselves. It is a great pleasure
to communicate to you on the present occasion the
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probable arrival of our Gracious Queen and her Royal
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landing on that beach !—how these woods would resound
with the shouts of your thousand, ten thousand welcomes
—how her eyes would sparkle at such a sight now
before me, in the assembling of that multitude of loyal
men, ready to ley down thf ir lives in the defence of her
Crown and her rights!—(Great cheering and shouting.)
We have had much to complain of from the various par-
ties who have ruled the country for the last 20 years.
' The rowers have brought us into deep water'—we have
seen heavy blows and great discouragement given to
Protestantism; but still maintain your loyalty—you will
never forget, I trust, that your motto is unchanged—
' Semper eadem, involving the preservation of your
rights, the promotion of peace, and the welfare of all
denominations of our fellew. subjects. I trust you will
rather take evil than provoke it; that nothing will in-
duce you, in returning to your homes to-day, to resent
even any in-ult you may receive. May God bless you
and uphold you, keeping you firm in your principles,
determined to support the laws of the country, and
enabling you by ' well doing to put to silence the igno-
rance of foolish men.' I shall now conclude, asking you,
before you go, to join me in three hearty cheers for her
Gracious Majesty and her Royal Consort, and may they
have a speedy voyage and happy arrival on our shores.'
Was there one word in it that the Orangemen should
return through Dolly's Brae, or molest any one, or, if
opposed, to meet force by force?—(Hear, hear.) He
could go further, but he wished on this occasion to con-
fine himself to his own personal connexion with the
affair, especially as it was now under investigation. He
returned thanks to their Lordships for having listened to
him so patiently, and he trusted that he had satisfied the
mind of every reasonable man that he was not amenable
to the charges made against him.—(Bear, hear.)
The Marquis of L ANSDO W NE hoped that the Noble
Lord, after the statement he had thought it his duty to
make in reference to a matter affecting his character,
would consider it a wise forbearance if he (the Marquis
of Lansdowne) did not state anything himself with
reference to the Noble Lord's statement, and if he
desired to be understood as neither assenting to nor
dissenting from any part of that statement which re-
ferred to a transaction which all must deplore, and which
he was glad to hear, the Noble Lord, in common with
every one else, lamented. The transaction had led to an
amount of irritation not easy to describe, to a loss of
property and life, and to a deep injury to the feelings of
a large portion of the population. It had therefore been
made the subject of inquiry, and it was not for him to
anticipate what would be the result of that inquiry; but,
whatever it might be, it would be made known, and their
Lordships and the public would have the opportunity of
judging in what circumstances a transaction, which had led
to so unfortunate a result, had originated. All he would
now observe was, that it must be a matter of deep re-
gret to see a state of society in which, from no other
motive and with no other provocation than the recur-
rence of certain days, proceedings could take place
calculated to irritate the feelings of the population and
to lead to a loss of life, and that unexcused by any
preceding acts of a nature to excite the passions.—
(Hear, hear.) If there was no prospect of the cessation
of such transactions there could be no doubt that it would
be the duty of the Legislature to interpose for the pur-
pose of preventing them; but, in the .
clear,
absence of any Act
quite
of Parliament for that object, it was q , by the
common law of the land, and according to the most emi-
nent authorities in the law who had been consulted on
the subject, that the bringing into movement multitudes,
armed as it appeared in this instance, but, even when .
un-
armed, in a mode calculate d to excite the public disturb-
ance, was in itself illegal, and might be, and ought to be,
prosecuted by the Government, by the magistrates, and
by all well-wishers to the peace of the community, so
that the offenders, for offenders they were, might be
brought to justice for endangering that peace, which
(!ar from their being anything in the peculiar circum-
stances of Ireland justifying any disturbance of it) there
were, on the contrary, circumstances in the state of Ire-
land inculcating peculiar caution on every rational, loyal,
and well-disposed subject of her Majesty to preserve.—
(Hear, hear.) Therefore the Government trusted, that,
through the contemplated inquiry, justice would inter-
fere to put an end to such prOceedings as those which
had beta alluded to.