The Sun.
London, England, 1809-03-28 00:00:00

ANIFRICA.

Lord AUCITLAND zave notice, t-hat an .an early
day alley tt=e, recesi, he should stibulit prGposif,i,,ii
.to their, Lord,hips, with rc.,pco to paw)! int'
contiiiiaieg ttl ft.nce Count:a of 111%;
last Sea tut(. St Wai impossible to look to 146 pre•
sLt state of our relations xvittt Ann:ilea, and to the
nature of the intelligence lately ;% tr9nl
Country, without beitig itnpzetv..'d w.tit t tti-gt,nt
itnportanCe of some diicus,doti
Lard SELKNZ,F„ felt anxiotiS to pttt a-question to
the Noli:e Satszt.try of State, 00 :mot point ow
. , ,
wtth
,A;oertca; he,,t:out it:c of-71.)1

Mr. MaLLisu orought`in the West India Dock,
and Commercial Road Bill, which. were read 0,
and ordered to be read `a second. time, without 44
position.
MEl.Listx brought in a Bill•for incorporating
the Gas Light Company, which was read a tint,
and ordered to be read a second time, witho,,t
position.
A Gentleman' from Greenwich •Hovisaillaid be-
-fore the Hothe aecoAnts ut the disbursements of the
Chest at Greenwich, for tBo.—Ordered Re on
the table.

Mr. Carmirio• laid before the liottse the Treaty
of Peace cbneluded with Spain. .

4,
MT. 'WHITBREAD made sonte ttiquirie resp &img•
the authentitity of the statementS, in the .pahliO
prints relating to the revolution in Sweden.
Mr. CANNI Ng would not give a po:.:ittve answer
he did not,forbear to do so from reluetance to
the Hon. Gentleman, but from inability to give hi 4
the information he desired.

Mr. WinTIIIIII,AD moved, that Iccotants be laid.
before the liouie of the expenees ilwident to

Stamps,

• Mr. tjUSKISSON, in reply, poko of the di4count
regt4..trly.. allowed to Slationers, iv-hich out et

24.6,6061: be beNeyed amounted to toot.
Mr. WIUTERI:AI? thanke,J the Hon. Gmtleman
for intorrpation, but he had not spoken a weld
about Scotland,.

Mr: m usti.tssot; infored him the discount
all Owed was the smite.
. WnITAUEAD then oinva, that the Ace tunts,
both of England and Scotland, should be }aid boforo
the Haug. The .qcounts were ordered to he pro-
duced.

VC TtIiT4R2AI.) brought up two 'Petitions ; the.
one trotn Fleury White, late Editor .of The Rule-
pendent Triig,, now confined in • borehester pa.,l
audi the other from -7 Harr, late Printer o: the
sjim; Paper., now confined Glottee.ter Gao/.
did 11,40O•udge himself to prthe the truth of Ole
.as-
sertiollt wade in the Petititns he held in his baud,
• but he thought it hi dqry, :m a "Weather of
men!, to 'brtn'g tmd the. Petition of any
who thought himself aggrit.-eocl, it couched i:i tt rim.;
.of proper r..speet to that Houge. The Petition; cons
seined i.niegt-ttious which. to b 6 inquott
• that, if pos4ible, they might be proven fast, or !ha!,
if found true, the grievances ,complainecl of might
be redresstd, 'Lite Petition. of Henry White was
Caen read; which set torch, Oat ate Petitioner had
b't!ien PrOprieter 77:e I7dependent Whig, and that,
in January . i uoz, a ietter had been published its that
Journal, tor wnich lie'had been prosecuted.
lit..t4d iez site letter{ it *35 4t.in*tud 'were t,rvl •

Lar forty years no prosecution had ben instituted •
wacre•the libels were stated to be false and rna•
It then went on to state, that various int
aormalitjes.had ocettrre.d in the. course of the proceed•
it.gs which had .been instituted against hit% and to
l,tnvc that his punishment was too severe, as the truth
of the letter had never been questioned. He therefore
thought it his duty,to lay the whole before the House,
sleet. ahe treatment he received should be made a pre-
,cedent-•te-justify similar. conduct towards others. It
then set, forth the. various,plivations to which he had
betn subjeeted since hit-imprisonment, stating, that
'Kalb he wag in it very ill state of health, 'Which
fadt. was proved.,by Elie. certificate. of his physician,
be. had riot, been. permitted far three months to have
access to the open air,' any- further than that he' had
.5e4 allowed to walk in a little stone yard, where
tougglers•and others were permitted to take•ahe air,
'and where being ebligedao walk in.a circular direca .
!inn,
.agaatsvaied the indisposition underwhiat he
lalioureci so much, that he was compelleds to give 'hp
Aal‘ing the air at. all. Thbugh he had solicited per-
-,its ion, by latter and otherwise, to Walkio the gar-
Li-I, that indulgence had utver been granted, though
prisoners had been buttered to do so; and it
Ni OS not till lately, that through the interference of a
Niaaratrate, he had been allowed half an hour each
nay to, take 'the airjaaccempanied. by a gaoler:-: He
1:41.3 wife and two sons, .but being impair:tied at
suet. a distance from his former residence and 'conk
I.,ectioos, he was denied thesociety of one of his, sons:
1 ley v". 11!: takt.'n lodgings in .lierchestei,-, but- had'
tee` access to him, and was neveradmittedtoare,
torn but at a late hour. Theie fitCis he wished to
be. allowed, to prove before a Select Committee, or at
the ilar'of the House.
Mr. CALCEAFT said, he had misited Mr, White in
Gloucester Gaol, in the summer; that he had'com-
. plained-th him that he could not have unrestrained
intercourse with his family, though. he admitted that
his Wife was allowed to .be with him eight hours
vne day, and 'one of his suns the same portion, of
;Atwater ; but he lamented that this indulgence-,was
• not extended to Sundays. The reason he was not
permitted to take the air in the garden was, that per-
mission had been much abused by Mr. Gilbert
'Wakefield, whc. had excited a sort of insurreCtion
among the prisoners. He had, however, been al-
friaed to take the air one 'hour each day, at what
'foie he pleased, accompanied by the, gaoler, or some
trusty peraon. With this indulgence Mr. White had
expressed himself satisfied, and thanked hint (Mr.
Calciatt) for his interference in his behalf, and pro!--
; nris•::d,. that: if, during his'imprisonment, he 6110Uid
g4itili have occasion to complain, he would COlOnlti‘
9
11W,Ite to him (Mr. Caleratt) the grievannes of which
lie complAit.ed. The Hon. Member: then stated
tout Mr. White had'a room in that part of the gaol
alipropriated to female prisoners ; it was airy, spa.
cams, and papered' (papered though at Mr.-White's
expence), nod was indeed as commodious an apart-
tne.rit as he had ever seen in his Majesty's barracks..
• He was 'allowed as hours it, the course of a week to
eiijoya he seciety his family, and wheti•he wig tui-
wife had 'been stnlered:to attend trim both
tidyand., ttle. ht. ‘Vith these incitdgences Mr. White
411'expicssed himself satisfied : he (Mr. Calcraft)
'was therefore of opinion, that he had been wrought
on to'prastinta Petition, which (unless some change
had recently been made) coittained several misreprea
stfotatioasS. ,

Mr. ASTLHY COOPER spoke to the comforts•of
White'ti situation, and corroborated the testi-
ttiony of the last Speaker. •
Mi.. WHITBREAD was glad the treatment of Mr.
'While was less severe than be had at tint imagined.
The Petitions egne to' him from Mr. White's son,
wt., had obliitett on him, and who, at hisinstiga-
h corrected some parts of the Petition. fie,
iejoi,.cd that such CU:el:Wye rigour no longer exist-
regretted that such a putibliment. had ever
been, intlidert..
Aftsr `it- few 'Words from Mr. CALCUAFT, the
Spealter•observed, that the Petition bore on,its'face
hinny erasures, . which Mr. .Whitbread,,,in, reply,
stated to have been by Mr. 'White's son. The
Speaker,then.ternarked, that it was interlined in a
thtfistent hand : this,. Mr. Whitbread stated, was
likewise.done by Mr. Whitea'Son.. The Speaker
said, in that case it could not be the Petition of the
party, and was irregular. In Consequence of which
it was withdraw n. ' - •

ritZEMANTLE moved, that the accounts of
the expellee attmling furnishing Spain with
\ord-
ulluce,, atop', Eze. be laid before the House. .

iilr, `Joist FANS' presented a PaiiitHl irOM Capt.
Huxley ,Sanders, row in Newgate, stating, that he
jsad ser“itl his Aisje4y in the West 'lndies, in the
American War, on the coast of France, and in Spain,.
ie.all 00411'11,0t thirty years; that in the service he
Itadicst an eye; and that till, the late investigation
))4 chrtrader Tad ever been unsullied. It went on
Ca sttitg, that through his ,horse plunging down a
precipice, he bad experienced a concussion on the
t.ra;n, which, added to .the fatigue he had so recently
rzppiienced in Spain; combined with the circum-
.stAllee (,: neing placed in a situation so new.and
ecW tendered him hardly conscious of
*41.4: ed . at. their Bar, awed. as he was by
emit j,i, e. Five vi'eel,ss had elapsed 'siitce .by
their ender he had been co:pined in Newgate : hel
Was sensio, of the' impropriety he must have corn-.
milted he presumed to addreks them earlier, but
Ise now humbly' implored their clemency in- Consi-
deration' of the circuinstanees set kith above.' A
ciltititate, signed by Di. W. Lind, was then read,
staiing that ht; had received great injury throt4gb hk
liorsQ.l,lt4tiging into a gravel pit.—After which, he
was ordered to 'be brought
.up to-morrow andditi-.

charged.
Sir A. WeI..LESLEY gove notice, that he would
AW 10-1110r1OW tilgt the House cep reiiolve itself
ion a Committee on the Irish Militia Completion
Bill,

Lord CASTI.LnEAcur :brought up the Returns of
ry and otlwr Forces co barked fur Spaint..-
Otrcti to lie on the table.

sir, .14in N Novront moved for the Exporikand
LTbrlfi to and from ail parts of America. '
Air. hose,. bbewk:d, by avariety of alatement3, that
our trade h; :ti suffered but a very lbeousiderithle di-
wimdion.

Mr. \Vtirri tunp wished h;s stp.temeuts might
I,lt.ve Vortvci ; but 11 (Ti.entLi Orange tu him that
11,t. ('t ii Le .“) 11,1:t h os apprelicnd-
t li{ htl'ne btAirical nimeivations on
t) t ;r4f.,,vdt:reti 4‘10441.(1 (;ourrituv:it towards 41110-

Mr., Rose replied to Mr.. Whitbread's remarks"
he only stated facts, of the truth of which every
Gentleman might satisfy himself.
Mr. WHITBREAD explained.
Mr. BARING thought the statemenf made by Mr,
Rose an insult to the distresses of the people..
*Mr. ROE said, the H.m. Gentleman had no
right to say, when he bid a plain statement before
the House, that it was an insult to the distresses of
the people.
General nit LETON stated, that many had cause to
lament sending their merchandize to Cadiz, though
that increased the bulk or the exports. In Latic.a-
Shire, he knew much despondency existed on ac-
count of the stop` put to commerce. , _ _

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could see
nothing like antinsult in
,his Hon. Friend laying a
true account of: our.expotts, &c. before the House.
No insult,„„he ,thought, could be felt but by those
whose propheCies were disappointed. He did. not
doubt but Gentlemen, while they perceived the evils
under which our commerce had laboured Were fast
diminishing, would contemplate' the change in our
p ros pea s with pleasure.
Alter a few observations from Lord H. PETTY
and Mr:nOSE, thesaci:ouuts were ordered to be pro.
.:‘ducal.
LOCAL MILITIA.

'Lord CA STLE I:AGIi rove,
,cdotding to his notice,
to move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend and
render more effectual to Bib passed in the last Ses-
sion,'for establishing a 'Urea Militia. He began by
shortly stating.to the House, what had been the re-
sult of the experiment. of last year. There were at
present 250 regimeotiiof Local Militia-rof theselB4
regimeiltiwere for. England, amounting t 0.149,440
Men, and 66 regiments were for Scotland, amount-
ing` to 45,721 men„ making together a f6ree of
10,t61 The -2.50 regiments would then be
rated at an average of ace rank and file for every re'
giment---of these te5,000 men volunteered into the
Localllilitia, the remainder had been established by
.what were called volunteers under the Aft; those
who had voluotar4 entered the Lit l Militia with-
out having been in any former carps ; to the 1.25,000
before-mentioned there might be added for 'they°.
lunteers under Jlie Act .50 or 60,000 men. Now,
according to the plan of year, each of thevolun-
Leers under the Act received an additional beinny of
two guineas per am, but owing to the strong repre-
sentations which had been mete to Government
trim different parts of Great Britain, particularly
• from Scotland, where the asessments on the
parishes were felt to be peculiarly heavy, it has
`beep thought advisable to eo away that, bounty.,
of two guineas, and leave it •to the separate ,clis-
trida voluntarily to assess themselves at,any rate not
exceeding one guinea per man. Another consider-
ation that made thii alteration less' Objedionable was,
that it did not appear that there was any necessity
for this bounty, in order to encourage the volunteer-
ing iota the militia ; it would therefore be one of the
Ajeetiof tire BM' he 'should move tor, to abolish
that Clause in the Aci Of last Session, that gave the
.two guineas bounty. As there were counties so pe-
•celiarly circumstanced, in which persons residing in
certain' parts of them could not conveniently attend
the training, he should introduce a clause for the pur-
'pose of enabling such persons to be trained in any
other adjoining county.. He also should suggest an
alteration with tespea to the stamp duties on com-
missions. It was also his intention to equalize
1110 allowances for June and August to the Yeemanry
Cavalry; . and as the one was 61. and the other 21. a
year, he meant to reduce the former and:raise the
latter to 4L a year, as he thought such n' disparity of
provision' for the same troops ought not to continue.
The whole three 'would then amount to 200,000 of
as fiee athletic troops as ub other country ever did
or would produce. They no doubt would, in point
of discipline be inferior to the troops of the line, but
in equipment they would be every way equal to
them, The Noble Lord then concluded by, moving;
.for leave to bring-in a Bill to amend and render more
effectual the Local Militia.A6t.
Mr.:Wurrartas, said, that the thing had taken a
popular turn, and no doubt numbers were' raised,
but as to the magnificent description of therngiven
by the Noble Lord, he must Wye had it from Of--'
ficers who had not seen them. But when the Noble
Lord• talked thus, he ought to recollect that these
men were Many taken out -4Dt. the means of
supply for the regular militia and the wary. As
the bounty of two guineas had, been begun, he
thought it should be continued, although he al;
d that ,it had better be paid by the public
511,14. by an assessment on the parishes. If one
guinea only was allowed, the 'volunteering .would
be at an end, and the men must be procured by
ballot, and the militia be made up of two descrip-
tions of people, the one of which would be apt to
look down on „the other. This diminishing the
bounty before ilk number at present was complete,
would create a deal of dissatida6lion.

Mr. WINDLIA” said, thaw the Noble Lord had
spoken with mud) self-complacency on the •great
success of his measures; a ballot must produce teen,
brit the question w:is,.whetherthe men -thus raised
Were worth the sums exruded in.raising,them(
The -Noble Loresicitel, t hat they-WirealliiiiCstoul
healthy young mcu (though to be sure he bad not
seen thump,' they might be soch, but the question
was, what soldiers were they i—We had the men
:before—his' measures did 'not make them.; but it
was to be aseertained whether they were of more
service to the. 'country in their present state, than
they were before the Noble Lord's measures were
acted upon. it had been said io e tle " here's an
awy,better let, better dressed, anti with more mo-
ney-in their Pockets, than any 'other, commanded by
the wealtliiebi. limners, the most respeclahle' shop-
kfAvers, and nttorpieC in the greatest pra&ice
throughty -thei country." This VCRs a force better
by so much per.yard than any Other. It reminded
him of a passage in Cynibeline, where cloten asks,
" Do you net' know me by my elo2thSr The an.
saver to‘whieli 'is, " Your taylor.made the best part.
of you. Yet the Noble Lord bad spoken as if
.Buonaparte and his legions would be afraid to land
where stivh,n formidable force existed; 'The regit
lars, be thought, would !eel great terror if Supported
only by these : little could be 'expected from their
co-operatiou: A' band - of hardy peasantS 'had not
uhlietioentiy, proved. more forthidable than Such on
association of tvd, well 'dressed gentlemen.—
The Hon,,Member wits of opinion,. that the Willing-
ileb6 manifested. by those Who entered into this de.
seription of force., of .beink tor, was no ar-
gtonc,ht 61rO1izly. a aiu t it. .Stleh zeal May be gd.

vAnhigeOuii fe the icterosts..of that force; but it
'would tend in agreat degree to obstiud the resources
for recruiting the regolor army., Ile was indeed ex-
tremely surprised at the half--way method adopted by
the Noble Lord, respecting the yearly allowance of
the Volunteer force, 'and,' that of the Local Militia.
In the redutlion which he (the Noble Lord) would
make, from the highest to the lowest, instead of di-
minishing he would increase the sum. From every
view which the Hon. Gentleman would take of the
subje6t, it seemed to him that though the force of
the country was by no means increased, yet a consi-
derable expence was incurred for the purpose.
Mr. CURWEN, though he concurred in ille gene'
ral utility of the Bill, yet from the spirit denionstbt-
ed by the country in the formation of the Local Mi-
litia, he did not conceive that any bounty was'at all
necessary. He was sure that 140 out of 150 would
have offered their services without it. To him, the
measure seemed to be of peculiar interest, so far as
it tended to give the country a' military turn. Wheti
the security of the Empire was concerned, he con.;
ceived that expence should be the least olajoet to be
regarded. The force proposed to be raised by this
Bill, he teas confident, would be -in every way ade-
quate; and as a co-operative body, he. believed the
regular army would not • think themselves ill sup-
ported by 'it in the hour of trial. .
After a few words from Mr. WlNDlial, in ex-
planation,
_leave was given. to bring in the Bill.
Sir J. NEwront moved an Address to his Majes-
ty, for certain Pipers relative to the Capture of the
Island of Capri. It was. of• import, he said, that
those papers should be laid beforethe House; as, of
two regiments whiclk served on that occasion, lie
understood one bad behaved well, and the o her ill.
It Would be unfair not to separate -the culPability,
and apply it only where. it would attach. Tina was
his object in moving for these papers.
Lord CASTLERRAOH said' he had no objection to
present the dispatches which came at that particular
juncture, sod ulterior ones also.
The motion of the Hon. Baronet was of course
agreed ro.