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pre4 these points further at present, but would take'an
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of 50,000/. a year which he had from this
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and would he be allowed to spend it in another
retain the income derived from his regiment, which stood
and then lie wished to know whether he was to
e situation as the 50,0001.? Of all the indivi-
duals that could be chosen, he thought that this Illustrious
Person was the most likely to continue the jealousy With
which France would always regard this country with re-
. ference to the subject of Belgium. ' The acceptance of the
12elgic Crown by the Prince was therefore more likely to
endanger the peace of Europe than to preserve ir. He
asked whether the Noble Earl intended to lay these papers
on the table. and if he did he wished to know when he
would do so?
Earl GREY did not feel himself called upon at present to
notice any opinions that might be given as to the conduct
or the result of the negotiations on the subject of Belgium,
nor would he at present give any opinion of his own on
the subject. When the proper time came for the discus-
sion of the question, he would then give such answers as
he trusted would be satisfactory to their Lordships. At
present he would confine himself simply to the question.
whether it was his intention to make any communication
, to their Lordships on the subject of these negotiations, and
whether he meant to lay the papers on the table ? In In-
met. to that question, he would say, that he thought that
his Majesty would be advised to make a communication to
their Lordships on this subject, and to lay the papers r n
their table. As to the time at which this should be deice,
it had been usual to leave that to the discretion of his Ma-
jesty's Ministers, except under very special circumetancee.
When the time strived that the communications could he
made without injury to the public service, he believed that
they would be made ; and then he would make a state-
ment which, he hoped, would be satis'actory to their Lord-
ships , As to the income of 50.000/. to which the Noble
Marquis had adverted, that was a point on which no
question ought to have been put; and to which, being put,
no answer ought to be given ; for the matter was
already regulated by Act of Parliament, and Ministers
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had no controulover it.
The Marquis of LONDONDERR Y hoped that the
communications would not be long delayed. He would
abstain from saying anything further on the subject at pre-
sent : but, if the communication alaaild be long delayed,
he would again call their Lordships' attention to the
subject.

RISH COUNTY LORDS LIEUTENANTS' BILL.
Lord MELBOURNE moved the third readins, of the
:rich County Lords Lieutenants' BPI.

The Earl of WICKLOW adverted to the clause which
gave the Lord Lieutenants the power to appoint Vice-
Lieutenants to act in their stead, in ca,e of any tempo-
rary absence of the Lords' Lieutenant in the discharge of
his public duties. He understood that the Vice-Lieutenants
would, under this clause, have the same authority in the
appointment of officers of the militia as the Lord Lieu-
tenant had, and he wished to know whether that was in-
tended ?

Lord MELBOURNE answered, that it wa nct so in-.
tended, who re the absence of the principal was merely
temporary, or only for a short time.
The Earl of WICKLOW suggested that tin re silo d I be
an alteration in the wording of the clause, No sto leave no
doubt about the matter.

The Duke of WELLINGTON was himself the person
who had suggestel the insertion of this clause in the Bill.
One gre:lt olject of the appointment of Lords Lieutenants
of counties was, that they might communicate with the
Government on the state and condition of the county;
and when the Lords Lieutenants were absent on their pub-
' lie duties in Parliament, or otherwise, they could not
render a proper account to Government on the state of the
counties, unless they had the a.sistance of a Vice-Lieu-
tenant. Where the Lords Lieutenant's absence was only
temporary, then it was unnecessary to give the Viee-
Liteutenants the power of appointing militia officers; but
where the absence of the Lord Lieutenant was to he of
considerable duration, then the Vice-Lieutenants ought to
have the whole powers of the Lords Lieutenants. The
Lords Lieutenants might be expected to act with a wise
discretion in the appointment of Vice-Lieutenants, and
in the power to be entrustel to them, and it was fitting
that the Lords Lieutenants should have this discretion ;
and he was of opinion that the clause ought to be left as
it stood.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY repeated the as-
sertions which be had made on former occasions, that this
Bill would throw a great weight of influence and patro-
nage into the hands of Ministers; arid he saw no hopes
that they would appoint to these situations such persona
as had been most distin4uished for their loyalty. He was
sorry that the Bill was pressed forward with so much
hurry, and before certain returns which be had moved for -
were laid on the table. On the whole, he decidedly, oba
tected to the Bill, more especially as he considered
it as
the forerunner of a Bill to abolish the office of Lord-
Lieutenant of Ireland, which he considered a pernicious
measure, and one which put in great hazard the eon.
tinuance of the union between the two countries.
Lord FARNHAM adverted to the circumstance which
he had noticed on a former evening—which was, that
while the English Lords Lieutenants had the power to ap-
point the Militia Colonels, the Irish Lords Lieutenants
were not to have that power. There was a distinction,
therefore, made between the systems, and he thought that
objectionable. Ile did not agree with his Noble Friend
(Londonderry) that this measure would greatly increase
the patronage of the Ministers. On the contrary, he
believed that it would be diffieult to get };roper persons to
accept the situations, and foe that reason be thought that
care should be taken not to degrade the office. Tie did
not mean to oppose the principle of the Bill, but he
thought that it had been loosely and carelessly drawn. Ile
wished that the third reading should stand over until
Monday next, to allow time for making such alterations
that the clause should express the intention of the mover.
Lord MELBOURNE said, that if it were the wish of
their Lordships that the Bill should give power to the
Lords Lieutenants of counties to appoint the Colonels of
Militia in their respective counties, he would make no
objection to such an alteration to that Effect. He thought,
perhaps, it would be better that the third reading should
be postponed to Monday, so that the Bill might be altered
in the mean time.

The Duke of WELLINGTON, in reading the Bill, had
thought that it waa intended to give the Lords Leute-
'tants of counties the power of appointing Colonels, bat he
thought it desirable that their appointment should ho sub-
ject to the approbation or objection of the Lord Lieutenant
of Ireland.

BANKRUPTCY COURT BILL
The LORD CHANCELLOR rose, pursuant to notice,
to move the first reading of the Bankruptcy Court 13111. It
was in principle, and in most of its details, the same Bill
as be had introduced in the last Session. Ile had applied
as he hail skated he would do, in the interval, to
the careful re-:consideration of every part of this Bill; and
as becanawhim under the circumstances, he had availed him-.
self of the assistance of other Judges, not only of the equity,
hut of the common law Courts. 'With their aid, he had
effected what he looked upon as considerable improvements in
most of the details of the Bill. The ituportatit powers
of the official assignee were in some respects restricted, and
were more accurately defined in this than in the last Bill.
He knew that there were gentlemen in the city, but lien=
hips not persons of the greatest weight, who were de-
sirous that the WI should omit the appointment of official
assignees ahogether. He would say net inure on the sub--
jecit until their Lordships should 1) ave had an opportunity
of seeing all the details of tlie
Lord WYNFORLI had no intention to oppose the Bill.
He hoped, however, that full time would he given to ex-
amine all its provisions.
The LORD CHANCELLOR should take full tiroe for
consideration. On another day Le should move the: second
reading, in order that the Bill might go intct the Corn_
twitter, and be there fully dacussed in all its details.
The Bill was thin read a first time, ana ordered to be
printed,

EAST INDIA PENSIONS.
Mr. Danvers, from the Etst India House, pref., nte at
the liar the usual lint of pensions.
The Bills on the tahle were then advanced a stage, and
the Houso adjourned.

110 USE OF COMMONS, Juz,r 15.
A few minutes helm e Four u'e,oek ti.e SruAKER, took
peat.

On thu motion of I, r I STANLEY, the Bill 'co e -
dile the proprietors of the .Manchester and Bolton Canal
to make a rail-road on the line of the said canal wa a read
third time and pas4?d.
TUE KILDANE-STREET SOCIETY.
Sir ROBERT BATESON said he had an iroroitant
petition to present from the Ministers and Eltle, oif
the nes! yterian Church in Ireland,
under
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