The Sun.
London, England, 1831-02-04 00:00:00

IRELAND.

The Earl of DARNLEY said that he had a petition ;o
present to the same affect from those districts of Kent with
which he wae most connected ; and he Would take that
opportunity of congratulating the House and the country
on what had just fallen from the Noble Earl. From the
confidence he had in the honest intentioree and great abili-
ties of that Noble Earl, he hal no doubt that the just ex-
pectations of the country would be satisfied whenever thee
measure should be brought forward. Theme tlfd not
know what that measure w as, and that notniog could be
more deprecated by him then soy wild plan of Parlia-
mentary Reform, such as went under the name of Radical
Reform, and included universal suffrage and short Pau Ile-
merits ; yet he begged leave to express himself so far—if
the term was not discrediting—a Radical Reformer, as to
be of opinion that unless the plan should embrace all that
the just expectation of the country called for, it would not
he one to satisfy the public. Whatever was done in the
way of Reform must be done in earnest, and the Ministry
must set their shoulders fairly to the wheel. Another
point to which their attention ought particularly to be
turned, was the condition of Ireland. The measure of the
Catholic Emancipation which haul been carried by the
Noble Duke, was undoubtedly of great service, but it was
much to be lamented that th it measure had not been fol-
lowed up by others of equal s-rvice to that unfortunate
country. Time, however, had been wasted in talking,
without anything being done. Ireland required many such
measures, and, above all, it required that a permanent
provision should be made for its poor. That was a mea •
sure which must come at last, and the Ministry would do
themselves great credit by introducing Such a measure.
Lord Viscount AIELBOUR NE—He trusted that the
measure which had been alluded to by his Noble Ft iend
(the First Lord of the Treasury ) would be :seilicient to
aneet the just expectations of the people. As, however,
the Noble Lord who hal just sat down had mentioned the
state of Ireland, anti suggested a measure for the ame-
lioration of the people of that country, he (Lord Mel-
bourne) thought that it might be satisfactoty to the Noble
Lord to state, that notwithstanding the great press of fru-
einess that had come upon the present Government since
their accession to office, they had paid the closest atten-
tion to those necessary and remedial measures which all
felt were so requisite fur the welfare and safety of that
country. The Noble Lord had said, that he trusted that
this Session would not he welted like the last in talking
about these things, anti doing nothing. He, however,
begged leave to say, that all those preliminary discussions
had been of the greatest service in preparing the way for
the present measures ; and, in particular, one Noble Lord
had called the attention of the Clouse to the Report of the
Committee of the other House, which bad been found
to be of much use. To that Report they had paid
the greatest attention ; and with respect to that
which formed one of the heaviest pressures on Ire-
land, via.—the Grand Jury Taxation—they had al-
ready procured and digested a measure which must
necessarily have its commencement in the other
Helm, and which would he submitted to them in a very
short time; and though this must be admitted to be a
question of very great difficulty, yet he trusted that the
one about to be proposed would be found to afford an
effectual remedy to the evils supposel to exist there.
There was also a great feeling prevailing as to the two
other Bills, which had been paswd about seven or eight
years ago. He meant the Vestry and Stub-letting Acts.
As to the Vestry Act there was a Bill prepared entirely to
repeal the present Act, and to substitute another measure
in its place. As to the Sub-letting Act, a measure was
prepared, which he trusted would be found to contain all
the principle which was advantageous and beneficial, and
at the satne time divested of everything of an objectionable
character to be found in the law as it stood at present.
With respect to tolls and corporations, which was also
another matter supposed to press heavy on that country, it
was not intended to propose any Legislative measure; but
the Government of Ireland proposed to institute legal pro-
ceedings, which would try the right of tolls, and it was
thought that as much relief would be derived from that
measure, as from any actual law on the subject. The No-
ble Lord haul alluded to a permanent relief for the poor of
Ireland. Upon that question he would not enter • but he
would state to the Noble Lord, that with respect to 'the tem-
porary employment of the poor, and the relief of that se-
vere distress which was so deeply felt, a measure was in
contemplation, which, in the course of a y
. shorti time,
would be submitted to the other House. Hie Majesty's
servants had been very anxious, that for the sake Ltise-x.
ex-
pediting business, some of the measures should be first
introduced in the (louse of Lords ; but their Lordships
well knew that with sonie measures this was absolutely
impossible. With respect to the Sub-letting Act, how.
ever, that could be introduced to their Lordships, and he
would have the honour in a few days of laying the Bill on
their Lordships' table.
The Earl of WICKLOW was glad to hear what had
fallen (rem the Noble Lord. But considering the short
time that the present Ministers had been
.i
in power, he
could not help fearing that they were hurrying into crude
and hasty measures, that might be productive of evil to
Ireland. He trusted, however, that they had taken up!

several of the matures that were in contemplation by
their predecessors, for that was the ottly way in which
such measures could be properly prepared and digested.--
Adjourned.

HOtTSV OF COMMOIVS, FF,Baturti, 3.
The gallery was opened this day at a Quatter past Two
o'clock, and shortly afterwards it 'Was very much crowded
with strangers.

Mr. Hu entered tl e House at a Quarter before Time
' o'clock, and was introduced by Mr. A. Dawson and Mr.
D. W. HARVEY. The Hon. Menthe.. immediately la-
belled his seat next Mr. Hutt* on the Opposition side of
the House. Considerable curiosity was excited by his ap-
pearance.
The following Members took the baths and kheir seats :
Right Hon. Francis Jefiftey, for Forrat, &b. Burghs.
Henry Hunt, Esq., for Prestoh.
Winthrop maokwotiPhied, Esq., for St. Germans.
Charles Tenn?lon, ~ for Bletchingly.
Bight Hea. Sir Henry Hardinge, for Newport (COrnWall).
NEW WRITS.
Mr. ELLICE nimved for a heto Writ for the county
&.ilkenny, in the root br Lord Duncannon, who since
nis election bad accepted the Chief Commissionership of
Wooth end Porests.
A new writ was ako moved for Reaumeris, ih the room
of Sir R. Williams, deceased.
Mr. ELLICE navy. ti of a new writ for the borough
of Windsor, id the toom of Sir H. Vivian, who had ac-
epted the Uhilterti Hundreds..
Bit. G. CLERK moved for b net, Writ for the county
Id Peebles, in the 'room bf Sir J. Montgomery, who
had accepted tl.t Chilrero Hundreds.

A great number of petitions against Negro S!avery
were presented by different Members,

General GA§COIGNE ptt'sented a petition from the
Liverpool and Manchtster nalroad Company, praying for
.eave to hiing in a Bill to extend the provisions of their
preterit Art, and also a similar petition fro the Chester
Railway Company.—Referred to Committee.

WINDSOR CASTLE.
Mr. ELLIC was instructed, on behalf of his Nob:e
Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer, to give no-
tice, that. on Thursday nest it was his intention to move
for the production of certain pipets relating to Windsor
Castle, Buckingham Palace, and the Rideau Canal.—
( Hear, hears)
Mr. O. LAMB gave notice, that on the 22d of March
he ahoull bring under the consideration bf the House
the present st tte of the lavvt relating to Grand Jury
Presentments.

Mr. Alden'',An WOOD presented a petition from the
Ward br Cripi legate to prrvent the spread of canine mail-
aess.

REFORM JN PARLIAMENT.

Mr. M. A. TAYLOR rose to present a petition for
Reform, ftnm the inhabitants of Durham. In that city
the tight of election was in the eorporation, hut there
were a great number of inhabitants, nut in the Corpora-
tion of that city, of great r?spectability and influence,
who had a Pair claim to vote for representatives. The pe-
titioners prayed that the. House would do away with rot-
ten boroughs, and diminish the expense of elections, which
was now sometimes so. great, that few persons could afford
to stand a contest. they prayed, too, far the extension
of the pi'eSent limited franchise. He shared fully in the
sentiments expressed in that petition, his feeling in favour
of Reform being no Lew feeling with him—no new idea;
he had been a reformer for many years. It was to him,
baited, a subject of great satisfaction to reflect that if
Reform had been granted many years ago—if it had been
granted when Earl Grey proposed it in that House, oceans
of blood and countless treasure would have been saved to
the public. He hailed it as a good omen that the question
of Reform at present was pressing itself on the considera-
tion of men in all parts of the kingdom, and he trusted
that the good sente of the House would be shown by treat-
ing favonrably the arguments for Reiorm, and by support-
ing the measures of Reform that might be brought in
unanimously. He would not trouble the House further,
reserving himself for the time when the subject should come
properly under discussion, when, if the House would allow
him, he would address it.
The petition was laid on the table, and ordered to be
printed.

Mr. DENISON presented a petition from Christ-
church, Surrey, praying fur the rep' al of the House and
Window Taxes.
The IfoN. tlith moved for a return of the
amount of aseestttnts of 'houses in town and country.