The Sun.
London, England, 1813-01-20 00:00:00

txportavt Foreipi Europe ll-865:
Ameitca, " 46 1-balf.

Average three years, 1802-4.
The whole of India. •
Londou !Merchants 127
foreign Eneope 42
America
Average three years, 1&05-7.
London Merchants , 92
Fureip Lurope
America . •

The lack of lupe% he statett, tti'l:k equal to
10,0001. Such was the increase of the American
trade when the fooli.h measures of' the Artrerieart
povernment interfered with it.. • In the 'yearBl go 9
and 10, notwithstanding the partial obstructions
experienced, the exports of America amounted to
sixty-eight lacks ..of rupees. Aud what di( our
own amount to Seventy-four lacks giving us,
with all ouradvantages -over America in the India,
trade, but six lacks above their exports. Mians•
OughtNto be taken to secure more of the advan47:
tages of the trade to this country. As yet he Could
prove the expectations held out to the countryhad
not been.made good. We.onght to guard against
that Calamily, (for he called it a calamity), which
deprived us of those advantages we had a right tri
draw from our colonies. -EVery one most recol-
lect, that it was predicted the non-importation
act of Anierica must ruin this country,' but those
who loOked narrowly into the subject knew, that
she exported .not for her Own consmnption, hut to
supply other countries.' And:what countries did:-
she supply ?:-..otir own colonies', the Spanish Main,
and South America. The.,totttlof our exports to
all partS of America
la 'o's L.130:94,115
- •• . 24,753,111

7 23v917311
The Non-importation Act was 'passed, :itid
what trait the result ? The exporti,to the United
States fell in the Yea:r,', 1808, 'to 5',302,8661.
Then it was said, England was ruined hut it was
found that •hcr exports .to ,tlke 'West. Indi4 and
other
.parti of America„. were_raised ;frgrii. 4hout,
9;000,0001. to 48,173,0561. Liao' ivas a.
positive chanio: effected in the coUrse of track in
one year. In l 80; the exports ft.'? .:.`'
Siate,‘ ....k 7,4tioaes
Tu vther Farts tif Motrica. . 1a,a00196.-

Making a total 0f..., •
lii 181 , the total amount of our ekports to all
parts of /interim exceeded 28.000,000/•—From
these statement', he thought- it would he seen,
that the course of trade contd heelianged without
ruining the merchaitts. That sOme hed been
ruined was in a great measure owing to their
foolish speculatitibs,:aud to their sending out int.
proper articles. one instance, he believed,
baits had been sent out to Smith America. lie
wiiheil to spew that comme/cc is a thing,..which
front its very nature, is incapoble of 'change. NO
poiver in rthrope or'Asia, no power in the World;
etitild'interfere with the comitteree of Great
tams. But was it to be' alloWed, that' foreign
Stites should step in and deptive this country of
the benefits to be derived froth those poiseisions;
on the acquisition of which so much blood, and
So Much treasure had been expender; ? lie meant
to shcw, that the city of London would actually
be gainers 'icy having' the trade to India opened to
the ont.ports of the kingdom. lt had been' said, ,
that the quantity . of goods of British man ufactitre,
exported to India had not increased, and that' it
was not possible that it could be increased. This
he could disprove by doeumenti which he held in
his hand. Prom these it appeared that the amount
of exports had increased front 18 lacks and a bail
in the year 18021'ers$9.1acks and a half,. in 1811.
Here was an increase, in a period of nine years,
during, which time the' amount of goods of British
manufacture exported' to India, had risen from 18
and a half to 89 and it half ; yet it was said that
it won impossible to increase the export ofgoods'
of British maonfackurc to. India. In the year.
1800,. when some of the restrictions on the trade
to India were taken off, goods to the amount of
665,0001. were shipped at London for India. In
1793, the amount of goods exported to Chinain
that year. was 659,0001. ; and at that time-the
quantity Of goods exported front this country was
deemed to have reached its ne plus ultra. But in
1803, the value of goods exported by the , Com-
pany to Chine was 1,321,0001. This showed that
it was impossible to file any limits to the Hai to
which the quataity of goods of British mannfac-
tare exported to. China, or to India, might be in.
creased. But What was the result of the partial
removal of the reitrictions on the India trade. as it
regards imports frotn India ? Why, there had been
an increase of 900,0001. end apwards, itl the ins.
ports from India, in consequence of the Jimited
extension of the trade granted' under the Admi-
nititratiOn of Lord Wellesltl% Let the opinion of
Mr. Colbrook be looked at. He said, that if the
trade to India were opened to the out.iorts, no
limits could be set to the increase of the trade,
both as regarding the exports cud imports. It ,
was mistaken policy to limit the trade of the
kingdom at large, from any false commiseration of
as body, who really would not be materially injured
by the extension of the trade which was so much
dreaded on the one baud, end se ardently %visited"
for on the other. The trade of thli cotintry could'
he extended to a degree much beyond what many
person; imagined. It was said that those liter-
chants, who wished to be allowed to have 'access
to the India trade, had not capitals sufficient to
enable theM to carry it on. In some cases this
might certainly be true. But it was well known
that merchants do not trade entirely on their own
capital. :They trade upon the value of the goods
which they. purchase from the manufacturer, and
it was certainly true, that when the returns which
they ought to receive for these goods were tardy,
or inadequate to remunerate them for the sum
they had paid for them, in such cases; certainly,
there must be a partial kiss and inconeenience.
But such cases rarely occurred. He then pro,'
ceeded.to say, that the East India Company had
broken, their engagethents, regarding the sailing:
of their ships. They had dolaYektltbdistritteh Their
ships within the time limited. This' be 'could
prove if it were requisite. He should state the
increase Which had taken place in the importation
Of several articles from India. He held it impos.
aihle for any person to say to what- degree the In-
dia trade might be extended in many of its branches
'was incalculable. In 1786 the 'quantity of

indigo produced was 240,000 pounds weight ; al-
though at that time the Company was tributary
to Manilla and other States. In 1810 the pro»
duce of the same article was 5,580,000 pounds-
weight. Here was an increase in that one
tide of more than five millions of pounds, and
there was no saying to what degree it might
not be • still increased.. With regard to the
tribute to Manilla, it 'was his decided opinion,
that other StateX' might be made. tributary to
Britain---hut never should Great Britain be
'tributary to any State while there remained
the power to prevent. it. Cotton was another
article which had very much increased. In the
ycur 1805 we owed the greatest part of the cot-
ton, which supplied our maimfacturers, to the
Spaniards and Portuguese. India at that time
dill not furnish above,l-168th part. The whole
quantity of cotton imported into Britain iri 1805,
was 59,682,400 pounds weight, of which the pro-
portion from India wits only' 355,493 pounds
weight, or about 1-168th part of the whole quan-
tity. But when circumstances deprived the coun-
try of the supply which it should receive from fo-
reign powers ; when it was necessary to make
' exertions in the British Colonies for the supply of
the B'ritish 'manufactures, how greatly was the
quantity furnished by India augmented ! The
.quantity of cotton imported in -the year 1810 was
136,570,103 pounds weight, and of these India
aontributed 23,144,907 rundS weight: 'What an
increase was that ! mai the proportion of
1 A6Bth part of the whole quant'ty of cotton
ported into the kingdom, India has now increased
that proportion to 1-6th part. All the old ideas
which once prevailed, that this country must be
dependant ,on other. States, were, be trusted,
now unite exploded. The time was now come
when proper exertions shOuld be made, and he
bad no doubt 'that there was the resolution, as
there certainly was the power, to make Great
Britain perfectly independent of every other na-
tion, To do this, from the instances he bad gi-
ven, it would be, seen that it was only necessary
to be obliged to use our own resources. When
this kingdom was deprived of its supply of cotton
from .other states, it was obliged to have recourse
to its own colonies, The consequence was, that
in India the produce of that article was so much
increased, that a quantity was now furnished from
,thence, nearly adequate to supply.our manufacto,
!ries. • It had been-stated on a former day, by an
Honourable.Proprietor, that the Mayor of a cer-
tain town, that came up with a Petition to Par-
liament, against the renewal of the India Com-
pany's Charter; being asked, why he did so ? an-,
swered, because eves other town did the
FrOm this the person who told the anecdote ar:!,
pied, that this Mayor, and ' the inhabitants
that town, had signed their Petition, without un-.
derstauding what was its objeet. But would it b'e.
said, that the City of London was thus ignorant ?
No I let it be actuated by • a spirit of liberality,
which' may make it, While considering its own
righta, not neglect the interests• and the welfare
of the other parts of the kindom. • It is said the
out-ports are to be, ruined if they receive that li-
berty to trade to 'lndia which they so eagerly
sire. This may he thought to be the result.
But how is it possible, to ,know whether it will be
so until it be tried ? if they find it a trade which
will be so ruinous, as it is said it roust be, then
of course they will soon give it up, and the Com--
patty may 'again go on as k had formerly done.
The Chairman had stated it as a grand reason why
the Company would .he ruined if the trade to India
were taken from them ; because in the event of
welt being the case, the receipts of the Company
wonid be minus four millions: But it had AISO
been said, that the trade bad nut been profitable
to the Company, and' therefore was not worth
giving to the nation. Why continue this trade,
it it be so unprofitable as it had been call-
ed.? Thither let the Company redoce their. eata-
blishment, and let' them allow British Capital
and British Merchants, at least try whether or
not they could find it profitable. He had consi-
dered the matter much, and had thought upon it
for many years. The result of his reflections had
been, that the opening of India trade to the out-
parts of Me kingdom would not be at all injurious
to-the revenues of the Bast India Company. He
should consider the profits of the Company on the
trade to India. The accounts of the Bast India
Company had been so much Mixed with other pa
litieil accounts, that it was impossible to draw up.
.a:clear commercial account of the profits of the
Company. He 'should take first, the territorial'
revenue of the Company; secondly, the .China
trade; then the India trade: The territories' in
India stand indebted to the Company ,fiitt a
very large swn, about 5,778,000/. With Other.
s'mis the whole Ammon is about " 6.800,0001.
The profits of the China trade are 16,092,832/. not
Including 10 per cent. on invoice prices outward;
which makes the whole 18,142,6191. The deduc-
tions from this, of rote of exchange on bills, .cap-
tures, &c. are 2,500,795/. Leaving the profit and
loss on the China trade 15,611,824/. This was
taken from the years 1792 and 3, to, the years
1809 and 10. The statement of the profit and
loss on the India trade lie should take from that
laid before Parliament. The profit on this trade
for six years wiss 1,853,2761.; the loss on two
years 299,148/. ; leaving 1,554,128/. To this,
adding profit on goods outward 271,1871. makes
the total profit 1,825,315/.
,From this iris to be
deducted, for various losses, and fOr insurance,
2,168,292/. ; making loss on this tratle,7 in.eight
years, 342,977/. without taking any one of
,the
many charges to .be added for payments to owners
of lost ships, spiaes to Government, tite., There
was a loss on the India trade, in three years, of
355,846/. and in the same period, gain on the
China trade of 3,504,195/. GoVerntnent offered
the whole Indian territory in consideration of
what hail been done there by the Company. They
(Aired the means by which the. Company may pay
their tleht-arid they offered an opportunity to en-
able the Company to recover their debts in India,
When Government thus offered to give all that
was worth having, was it forthe. Company to
tbrar gauntlet,..was it for the Coni-
all comMunication with Govern-
between the interests of
dpbojrl
ileeveatt lok'd the
.seavu a
rite
d linetthe
interests of the Directors,

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The latter, while they remained in OffieeMl'
Patronage, Which of course they would eottil,'"l.
to preserve. It was Certainly the interest 07,
Proprietors, when Government offered thus faut
nit,t to break off, and refuge communication:
Ministers. He would admit that the tratien.
been unprofitable, but he would maintitia 60:4
might be made profitable. Some persons hnitll,
that it would be dangerous to have our 107
possessions . open to Europeans—Could it b
i7k,
riously thought that a few straggling Ent4kiiiii
could gain any ascendancy in a country 01
there was an armed force of one hundred 117 ti:
fifty-three thousand men (a great proportioa„;
them. natives of this country), lodged in.Osß?,4 •
merous fortifications in India. It had alto o,c(ri;
said that a consequence of extending the I°o
trade to the out-ports worth!' be, to niate
sailors worse than they now are. This, he cow',
ed, could not be the case ; .it could not be Prat!:
on any principle. To those Who said that the
terests of the natives were not attended
would Mention one fact out of man ,which
alone sufficient to shew the falsity of
tions. Some young men at a College in
having in a frolic set fire to the property of sidi
tive, information was lodged against there; t;
were apprehended and tried, and the Court
tice sentenced them to be hanged. This sofa;
was afterwards commuted for transportation,
these young men were now in Bowl A.
Would any man after this say, that the inn,
of the natives were not attended to ? The Pp
in India was excellent; he wished that the Pic/6.
in London was -as good. It was not, PerahisjO
pricegpeernieuritslsliiyorikontoZert:tait.
of any European travelling in India without
is.. set on the

The Hon. Proprietor being here mat
rupted by marks of disapprobation, , ~,° tili
. The CILVIRMAN begged that the Court
givethe
ever
lo l iln. P
) ghoii
sperecoptoirlietnigr a
bit phaet,ieat i
and
ltieoativleug,
ver1:1°11.1:,,,.
levant his arguments might be on the matte°
der discussioh. ~1 ag
m
Mr. Hue said he was sorry if be had Sal. 01.
thing to give offence to any Gentleman 10-0
Ile wished to state his sentiments fallY v`' it)
subject before the Court of Proprietors. I.°.„tr'
already stated the distinction between th° 1,..0
rests of the Proprietors and of the Directiero
the present matter. lle begged the ProPl'irg%
to consider, that although Government ihala ti,
parto the Company all the sums adt'alg,eiit
them for carrying on the war, yet the So' In
..1
Company having a right, by Act of Parlio`'`)ol
to - their Indian territories, Governnicut Oho
never think of,taking any steps to deprive „1 toi.
of them. He hoped that stops would be:oll7,icili
influence Government to come to such a elect
as might be best for the interests of theCoinr oi t
while they did not neglect the welfare °,',o(
kingdom at large. The City of LondOn, hots'`
had prejudged the case, and came with 01111""
judiced to this discussion. . V
lc 1
aou
of
gillirlew, roa..:111:1110,E:Tiic
thetc)io
and that in his last wortunisg
thought that lion. Proprietor had t olill'i!„iil
ye?
, „iiec_i. -4 i
Mr. flume. said, that-he had only ,Cl 4 he
stated matters of tact; which, ifregnir"" a►.lll.''
easily' prove. He concluded by moving .111;ire;t 9
!tient to the resolutions proposed ; tbe,9,3"„la tO
the amendnrent Was, that the Court,!`to-„swik:
stepi to appoint persons to hold con'u-g--' ..ins
illtiteh:latai,:liclll,l.:
jut.:l.,ll,Ll:;,):;:jj
Ministers, for the purpose of providing tut- fn
preventing those dangers which it rt tide
would attend the typening of the ludic r 1 i
i
the out-ports; Jittur person viould sec
olu ,
arnetidinent, the Hon.: Proprietor said le sit t
propose it. . 4
,libloei:e:hoionterrupted Mr. go,n,free

Mr. W. ICAtetse rose, but he eaid not to le o
the amendthent of Mr. Hine. He observe4l
if every Gentleman was to take hours for Ali
lion, there would still remain subjects; lie
remark. He then proceeded to se" in 'd 0
10
tone of voice, so that from the' noise In
thelsoo
we could not hear him distinctly; he reK(i
dil
extracts from. the letter of Mr. 11.1)11"das',?
Directors. We understood the rest of hill -
to contain speculations on the consequencrs #
oof
would issue from opening the India trade )
out-ports. He thought that. the jowl'si,
the country should not be sacrificed t° $1 0
notion which prevailed, that it would het
ter for the country at large if the India
rto
were opened to the out-ports. This was cr
oil
a mistake. Monopoly in ordinary cases 'foe,
testable ; but in such a case as the Intl,
Pang, it was a benefit to the country itt Rase
He concluded by moving that the Court - .1
adjourn.
After a few remarks from the Chairtna"'m !1),,
Jackson, and Mr. Hue, that had rder
rjo
merely to points of order, the Court 3t9'.a
until Friday.
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