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coming to a decision, 'he
,ould then take the
sense of the House on thesubieta.' _
Lord Mu roes ruse.—l-Ie had felt it his duty to
;give his opinion on the imnortaut titiestien before
,the House, attei• mature deliberation, uninfluenced
,eby peaty or by prejudice. He could not agree with
.the leearned. Judge who bad ••spoken on the -first
nig!atepf the Dbete, that .all -evidence which could
be obseaed to. in, a court of Jutice should be thrown
1 ,outeeeis, it they proceeded. on that :principle, it
woekkeeweep away almost all the 'evidence which
l':had'fseen delivered at their Bar. in either case,
Levheater the Commanderin Chiet was or was not
„guilty elcorreption, it appeared the opinion of many
„,1-lonuereble Members, that it was improper to wirer
4; hiita to retain the command of the army. He could
not but; think the, Doke disqualified to hold the
.coronia ed of the army. For his part, he could not
think the evidence of Mrs. Clarke ought to be con-
sidt•Tedee wholly false, though he did not admire it
ias his Noble Fliend did. l'ht:re was'a levity in it
which detri&eci from the degree of creelit, to which
it woujil otherwise have been entitled ; but at the
it • •
. 7 game lime he must observe that wes, corroborated
IWUSE OF Call111°"'". ''...-. - :::": sierrlit,l'aeeserentelt 41)); the evidence: t(factistljeltniabPleis7ll:llboltei
WEDNESDAY, MAIICIi 15. - undoubted authority. lii Douler's,cese, for instance,
The Vauxhall Bridge Bill, on the motion of Mr,
• I his evidence was in every TespeCt f.)tisistgnt, With
THORNTON, was read a secowl time, and was ordered' i that given. by Mrs, Clarke, and the whole was cur- ,
to be committed. , .. f roborated ny Mr. Lohg. It had been said'. that a
Mr. Mothia-presented a Petition from Earl Spencer, , conspiracy eeisted ;'could those who made such an
and other Proprietors of th flatterer:a Bridge against ; assernoiestapposeMr. Long (who, it appeared, 'had
the Bill; eeiYing to be heard by their eautisel. • -- i had noaurtial meetings with the pareies)" otte of
On the motion for the second milling et-' the I‘,/a. I the. conspirators ? area .proof of corruptierse he
rine Mutiny Bill, . r' . ' -.1 thought was furnished-by the case of Kennett :. that
Sir C. Pei: repeated the observations which Jae ! a loan of hie infamous characiler (hl. was justified in
made on the preceding eveniog ; to which Mr. R. ; calling him infamous), Promisinglo accomModate.
\Yard replied. After which•the Bill Was read a ye. 1 the Doke of Yo'rk with a leap, if provided with a
cond these,
_and was
,ordered to be read a,third time i place, should be at all listened, to, he thought:a
tee-emote-row.
‘ 1 strong presumptive proof of corruption. He wished
• ''Lord CA,iTL ER EAGII moved tor leave to bring in 1 the Houle to contrast the condo& of his Royal High-
ti Bill for completing the eilleie of Creed Britain.— : ness With that of the Dlllie Of POrglalltl, when an,ape
His Lordship, observed, that tile ceeeet of the Jilt i plication was made to him somewhat similar. 'He
.„,4,- to replace .the voce . teat eel ue tee, e,.0 trom the spurbed the applicant contemptuously` frern his door.;
Militia into the. Line. elle preposed teem the levy on : but the Duke of York referred Kennett to Mr.:
the Counties should be CentPleted in twelve months, i Greenwood, and to those concerned in the manage.
and' that it there: Wit's not
,a eutticient enieher of teen tnent of such affairs. If this was not a proof of cur-.
'obtained at the end of eight niunil•s, a ballet MIS 10 reptien be, did not know witat could; be considered
take plac_e. The Bill provided, if the :Ade; of public 1 as-such; he considered it to be an indubitable proof
affairs required it, ;hat his "Majesiy snould sae eel- : Of a eorrept mind:'' The Noble Lord then alluded
poWered to dire& the: ballot- tacollittleliCe. : tee the Cabe of Col. Fi epee Which lie could' only
_ - Lord Teetele -,.was of opinkse, that the men ! ccinsiderin the light of a job, and as a job ()Wailed
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would not be 'raised to sae ainoteit orthe Noble : through the corrupt inflitenee of Mrs. Clarke. The
Lord'eexpeelatioes, :veld was alsio
.uf Oijjoion, that : evidence; of Miss `reeler, though he eousidered it Ls
his Majeeteeshonid he eenpue-ered to ceder the ballet , artiontiling a' ne4d)• to a s4itisliV4-::torY proof of col'
at any tune, without anyerefereeee us invasion.
Lord ,Mithene
,delivered lii6 opinion .I,,iti i t the; : ceptienable, be lied preferred speaking of the case of
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,atfording the most direct proof of the •
After a few words Ilona Colonel 113itard, Ur I,
guilt of his Royal Highness, which had been adduced
Lefevre? and Colonel Fraukland, leave was gtico to i pith respea to the proposed Addresses. 'He did liot
bring in the Bill. entirely approve of either, but one passage in the .
Mr. CuoeLa bteught trp thelteport of the corn.
,! erigiteti Address, he could . not by any means ap- ,
mitt= on .the.:Cw Shibing-,.;n4. .Six-feliny Duq ipa,ve. [fie (heti read that passege in the erigeial
ties Blur which was agreed to, and a Bill ordered i Addir6s, Nt/hieh. sPcsks'athe 'elieets tiiat'unil't -Lel
thereon. . I produced on the-army, if aii opinion went abroad
. Lord Ceeri,eeeeen brought in the Bill for com- i that corruption, not merit and services, pickured the
pleting. the Militia of Great Britain ; which was read i appointments of officers.] This ptiss'ege, from the
a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on manner in which it spoke of the army, he could not
Monday next. tint oklea to. The Noble Lord then expressed his
The House, on the Motion of Mr. FOSTER, resolv- regret that they had. nut ageeeel to the propeeition
•ed itself into-a Committee to consider of the saving made by his Hon. Friend and Colleegee, kid they.
of ytax 5.e4 in Ireland; The objet was to encourage assented to that, they would not so freqeently leiee
the growth of 1.4111 x Seed in that Country, for which heard of the iiijuetice of find tag,theal !juke eiiiii) ,
on the esidence of per Sons who waenot ,tieeli -oaths
it Wes now indebted to America, Portugal, Sec. He..
therefotemoved, that 20,00 W. be granted for en. when they, delivCrecl 'their respedive testimonies.—
couraging the growth of the same, ter the present I Many, inconveniences might, in his opinkin, hei;e
year, to the Trustees of the Linen Alantstaeture in. I been avoided had the wittiesses' been examitied on
Irelaudeto be paid out of the Consolidated Fund; I oath. He was le,s in fa( our of an Address than
which motionwas agreed to. 411 many of his Honourable Friends ; iii his o pinion, it
AttelinlSlloP OF TIMM.
would have been best. to have laid the whole of the
Previous to the Ordet of the ay being read for
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1 evidence before the king. ,To this prkedu e it
D
resu might be objetiest, that in so doing they laid the Whole
ming the . .eertiSideration of rite Charges egainet i responsibility onhisMaltisty ; they did do so, but
the Duke of. Yorls, Mr. Wite'rellEAD-rOsei ter the I ittiwas equally done when an Address, like either •
purpoie of !Reich% a part of his speech; which had
O. li.lOse.yroposetl, wai priesent,(l. He hoped.noone,
been extremeirm6fepresonted in some of the Public
in; that House would be intimidated by the threats
Papers. He took this occasion of doing so, as he
perceive 1 within or without, so far as to withheld the vote lie
d:a reseed the Nebl
. e. Prelate the' (Arch-
bishop of Tuarn) whoought he give, 'lle ohjeaed to any of the ISleThera.
i was Ina subjoin that Luis" ;of .
net his, the 11441 Family being placed in reSpensible situ-
repreeentatioo, opposite to him. Although it was i
ttons; the dhlieultieS ender Which they !ensured in
e (,Mr. Wiethreadis) intetition to nn a for-'i' athe present discussion, Justified:him in.,exPres'sing- 1
oral coinpjainteagetiest the Newspapers in question,
he! such a wish , though he edmitied, in some Meances, 1
wished, far the satisfeei-ion of the feelines of the there might be edvanteges in is such sitLlati nns 1
friends or that
_Noble Prelate, and i;i jusit*ce to the -
Noble Pielate, to explain, that he •(Mr. \Vhithread) !,titled by personsof the RoYai P
uri;).' Ira their de- I
had not at
mined that elk:. letterifrom the Audi- : bates on the subject Lander disceesicni, they otieht not :1
to tiled; of.nthe Duke of York, but of the Coin-: I
hishpp of 'fonan, relative to Dr. O'Mara, had conic Mender in C...lief; they might to lotget fns rink and I
possessioU. Otherwise than frwrt et conneetioas, and think' of: him hely is Commander'
into Mrs. Clarke's
lit! Chief. 0..0 Gentleman had said, " If the Duke or
Dr. 0'.M311.f. Tien (rem a perusal of 'thelettCr,
wee sufficiently manifest, tlig it was merely' the re. !
stilt of an inquiry it4o the cli,u;leteriof Dr. -O'Mara, il f ark_ %vas, remov e 1
e-, waere could ;mother person be
tnade by that, Noble Pr4ste at the' desire of .Dr.
.i
Novundet .to be] placed at the head of the army ?"
as tigeland so destitute of military tatit, that bot
O'Mara, to whom the letter was addressed, and '
, 41.
toin 0
dean's! be found competent to the diseharge of
that, in fad, it spoke a justification of ieself. -' the
}might
oCommander in 'Chief ? Surely wine one
Sir GEORGE HILL, .in observation, rose to state, he Ifound besides- the Duke of Fork worthy'
felt much efatiheat'by the conduit of the tionourable s' h- h othat . high !rest.. • But if this wain admitted, it provitd
Member (,\lr-Wititbread)• h's sp yI I d tain '
; i ec 1 ),,t cur e notheig; inconveniences •• •• • '
urtie
,not tor be argue , io,
il
ly, iii the ptirticulars mentioned by lihn, been•much . •detertnine
_....whetter or no the Duke of York wae
tensrepresented. -It• could not but afford much gra- : guilt ,
d y.
IBIS being a great ,General was no answerer
• tification to the:Noble Prelate and his friends; that' -
And cola dbe no re-ison for- ' 4 ' '. .
the coyreetion of this paisrepreictitation should have j
sititatio.n
.f 1 , , continueig ham in his
was proved guilty of the chatgee
fleSeed voluntarily Itoti the gued leciiiiis,,of. the : brought ' Ihe
against
him. The'n k I'' 1 ii 1‘ '
_Li..L. 0. .LA.,,qroug..,
Ildn. Member himself .(Mr. Wilitbread), leafier thatl he helived _' :
~ was tairrilSqed 'On gee-mils scieaewleit
have proceMed troll! any other cheese which such t sh-sehe -
; yet- the Duke of Metlhorough was a gre.ater
miieepreseotaiion mieht have warratattel the .I`..;,lible ,Ge , neral than his "loyal Highiless lied -
proved . h im•
,
1 relate's frieteis in pureninee, self, or :wes ever likely io become. Its had been
etuieE Of' Y1...1.K.
• , "said, that there was a probability of the I)oke*S re-
Lord FOLKSTUNE. trlOyed that the Clll of the . f i i
...o_m_rigk; he .was now (if he Was not tiliVakoti)
. House be stispended,till the, close of. theelitcutilion 1 foity-;five years of ege,'und at that Period of lit; he
relatipg to this conduct oh his- itoYai:HigtinesS the ; leered:little hope eould b-e EationAlyentv;•tartied id
Duke of York.. - . -• . . r . - i itief, a ealuiery iefvearett6 -IC ,I. --, .
i teet toe p at, th a persoa
1 , Goleral,GASCtiKa again4.'LlPtess'ed his disappeo. I e how habite Must hef tens
oiened, :is would justify il
• bation of the moiler in which the Call - was_peset- I in. continhing' him iri Iles enici.ll cdpac-its. It wits a
potted' from die to day:- It they, egeet.ceetineeet iCt tila-tott saying:Wilt; hurtie, w that as e grow older
malt% till two or three o clock in the moraine, with: wt': grow wiser, it might be true iasiomo iozitikei
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• HOUSE OF PEERS.
EDNESDAY, MARCI.I 15.

In the Appeal, Roche v. Wargell, the. Lotto,
CHANCELLOR delivered his opinion at sotne.length
on the merits of the case; attar which the judge-
ment of the Courts below was affirmed;

On thoseconttreadink of the Mutiny Bill,.
Lord ROSSLYN 'observed, that in. his opinion
many of the pro.visions- of the Bill required explana-
tion. lie should not now- oppose-the second read,-
ing,of the. Bill on that account, the more so, as
none of his Majesty's Ministers- were present to
3ffurci the explanations he thought necessary.—
They might, perhaps, be given on a inture stage of
the Bill.
The, Bill was then read a second time, and order-
ed to be committed.

The other .Bilks on the table were then forward-
cd in their.respedtive stages alter uhiolt the House
adjourned.

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but .he. thought it absurd to imagine that e'rean bee'
itWeen fortrend fifty years of age was lileey to re-
form,sbecause he had been told it was wicked to
,• break the seventh commandment. Ha 'lipped 1116 ' . •
Hoe. Gentlemen opposite (Mr. Canning) hscl now '...,
learned to whom the infamy attached, e'fre then • •
adverted to the Duke's letter, which he censured as
very foolish, as it Went to tell them, (hat after ex-
atniningall tlrc evidences 'which had been caliel to
their, her,' I( from the testimony of , those witnesses
they should 'think him guilty, ,he
,desired' to .be
judged by another trihotrah if they• were convinced
that he was guilty, it was not his, essuringelieneen
e his honour es a Prince (an seepressiga novae before
heard of), that could obliterate: such an impreeion.
The Noble Lord concluded by asserting, that Ise
could tun' think the Charges brought against hire were
without foundation.
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' Lord STA NII-LY did not think the' House ought only
to receive such evidence as wonidbe deemed legal-in
:: court of justice, but they Quf ht. to give their opinionl • •.•
.. on the evidence which had been laid before Orem.
If at the commencement of the proceedings, his ,
mind was wholly unbiassed agaiest‘the Hon. Qense
tleman who broteeht foreeelif the r.fiareea„ his -opie
Wens were now changcd ; at, if the Duke had not r
been guilty, be thought every one neaSt admit that
he had allowed .corruption to exist. The testimony -
,of Mrs. Clarke, though not un'exceptionableovas not
wholly un;.vorthy of credit, and that ,of Miss Toylor
deserved implicit hclicf. It Lid teee e lid, that if
the Doke had beep guilty, she must have co-topped
with her terms; beet hose eho inadesthat assertion,
prehablyeltnew less of . natere then :the immortal
Shakespeare, and be, when (:dim..a:ln tee: cha-
racter of a great mah, mete:iced by a e ()mar with
the exposure of, his Private eaertniiies, eiaecs hint . '
say— . .
- U who will believe tbee Isabel ?
My unioil'd name, tit' auster4ess of my tile, ' v
. ,My vouub against you, and my
.plac4l' 1W Si.ite,
W ill 00 your aceusiitioo overwele, '
•
Tiwt you 311411 stifle its your own rQurt,
Pn/l'utnall of calumny."
And such might have beets the ideas of the Duke Of
York. :The Noble Lord theneefered,l few 01)Serva-
tiobs on Kennet's case'; and ptueeeded to-state., that -
Carter had lived with Mrs. Clarke, not only in
Gloucester-pince, but ,in Tetvislock-place also ; and
though the Duke Might know he was the person for
whoneCaptain Sutton had made application some
year; before, he did not doubt but big efeeitettnent
was gained through her influence: He then spoke
of Clavering's case, and that of Dowser, observing
of the latter, that a worthy Wert- en Ivid sstated,...
that his eppointrnnt had beeirs'proettred try the 'late
Brooke 'Watson. ' But how canteehe i•goraly Alder-
Man to ask the question e 1-1,!: never would have
nsked such a one, Itbd not Mrs-. (.3larkehesale of pro-
' motions bcen so lioiorihnS: ThOtlol it appeared the
interest of Brooke:Waton bad pitied three persoei :. .
appointments,' it did not foils* that 'Mr. Dowser's •
must be .one -of them ; though it was natural eneerlit
'for hiM to say it evae, - when Mier:regaled by •the
worthy Aidermae. . fie hoped- ..ne:l:llenitier, -eonid
he dee:reed from giving'( is vote. itopaerialty, by 'any
threats or caet:ons that might s'lla c been a 11/WV Ii
out. The Duke ought only to he coreidered fit the
light ot a public servant. lie did not think it fair to
push the discussion to a close, till every Gentleman
who wished to peak had delivered his Sentiments: -
For his Oa, he thought the Duke *elle,' of perfect
personal corruption, met would therteSare support-
the-original,tnotion.: -: '
Mr. LEYCESTER, in 4. 4pet'Clt,, the commence-.
teem of which we meld net distinAly enderf.tme.l4
stated it. to be his desire; that et-iv Zaeitther ,of the
House, in examining the nature of the- tieetelte it:ins'
which had been substitun;cl,:Wonla find them iree,*
of partiality. This he hoped would be the ease „ left
he feared it idould prove to the contrary.. Haviiu -
observed on the *three' different grolieds of atidress, s
he wished that celoleinen would recoiket the seh-
thence of. the vreeevisiCh _they were elmt to eke eft
one or-the .other' of the Resolutions proposed. To
the amendment of an Hon. Gentlereau (Mr:Banl)
he begged leave: to say, -that it was impossible to rote
the acquittal of: his Royal Highness flew tie.. delve!
of personal corruption, and: et tie sat'.nc iiink, to ,A-
press a swipiciOn Of his criminality. 1;1 eseetriS of.
Law, the decision of a :else ,should be .:11,:.t-Owt,ly
clear, ;either. as to the guilt oeinnoctirce,ei the, pei e _
son accused, and therefore lie wbultl.,iay,- in stic4
Courts no decision, grounded on such principles as
_ tho',ie proposed in that amendment, would stave any'
Weight.' He could wish that if' Gentle Men had ~.it
only iu their power' to charge his
.Rtiyal IlightieSe
with suspieion,, they should specifically-` state it ri if
'<melte other hand, his absolute guilt: The, inecni-
si,oent„,inanner -in which., they would net','if they,
abided by such indecisive propositions', wettld fie nit
indelible blot on the ebaratter of his Royal 'High-
ness without justierreasonable grounds. No man
who was nor cleat to justice would say, that m ado:):
the contrary of such resolutions would be enreasect-
,able or antes(. The Hoot was not toproeocines! a
yerdiet in this case, similar to what they eoee!
they were sitting as, a jury. to,
chaiee e ;:viii:::-
e
against the Commander in ,Chiefwere nois 01,e:'
parchment, berin . slab-stance also. A here 5,
tation, indeed, had • been:•made on him, :1;;71
necessary either to estahlish fibegnilt if pc, •:kH .•
if not, to insist one his inreeenee: ' Ririe e :,.: -
these, preliminary remarks; hkfwouid iiwv i• • . !::. ;
the nature of that evidence, otethe'letis tat e'L...
charges of persenal cot ruption against tile fioy.l: l'-e -
soilage were founded.---(idere the -1--roniatiche..earnee
(4cnt. went into observatiuns at COriSiatig',34l,!i 1er:3111
on the nature of the genetal ovideueee)—Hereerme.
ed upon the testimony of i'vlis. Clarke, the only keel.
leg evil nee in the caSe, that if the Noble leireeweo
had just 'sat down, h.nl mid the: ductruikems I:s,Aut,-
the Liouse, he would tine Mrs. Clarke to hese,' in,
naced the Duke • by saying, that she - would peense,
lOr the inspection of his Manly arid'the. peel-ire e
-series of letters, which Would equally' eepose h'lrti ie
the t7ei ef both; and yetehis was du:Whitt:Si '..V:itunt

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