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4iinis II ,iucity. •
Lord Buckinghathshire, Lord Mu!grave, and Lord
Am:Mang, entered• nearly into similar explartationsi
afler:whieh the Addrest was agreed to withotit-uuy
Amendment.
VicTogY OF VINIIERA.

Lord HAWKIMBURY rose, as the HOLM wai on
the point of rising, to give notice, that on Wedges-.
day next hwahonkl- move the Thanks of the Hon e
to Sir A. Wellesley, and the Arrby who fought under
him at the battle of Vitniera.

The Noble Lord' also gave notice, that on Thurs•
day next, should the Payers be then ready, he should
submit 'l6 the House the tenor of the:Correspond-
ence and' Negotiation that had been opened between
this,Country and France, by the Etnperors of Russia
and France.---Adjourned at Twelve o'Clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS,

THURSDAY, JAN.

' About 3o! clock the SPEAKER entei;ed the House.
Soon a►ter, the Deputy Usher of tht:leek god
made his appearance, rind summoned ;lie House to
the House of Peers, to.hear the Commission read.
The SPEAKER and a number of the Members ac-
cordingly at(ended._

On tile return of the SPEAKKII, the Clandestine
Outlawry Bill was, proforma, read a hilt, and Or-
dered to be read a secoucl.time.
A new Writ was ordered for the 1101-4,m.;11 of St.
Alban's, in the room of theklon. J. W. tiriinsione,
now Baron Forrester.
HIS MAIESTra SPEECH. •

The SPRAKER having read the Speech delivered
by his Majesty's. Commissioners to the House (vide
Report of the House of Peers),,
Mr. Itoaresde rose.' Ile would not &tont the
House for a longer period than it was usual for Gen-
tlemen, placed in a sirei!ar situation with: his, to
claim their iodulgernce, and would therefore, with—
out further preface or apology, proceed to state
such Observations as occurred to him on the Speech
they had just heard read, and which .wotild form
part of the Address he should have the honour to
move. His Majesty had expressed his confidence,
that his Parliament would concur in giving every
aid in their power which'coold contribute to the firm
and yigoroos suppert of 'the War ih which we
were engaged. With well views as they originally
entertained on the .sehjeet of this war, with such
views as they had continued to take ut it, it would
',indeed be a singular inconsistency to depart front
them at a moment hke the present, and ref).* from
giVittg his Nlajesty an assurance that they were ready
to give him all the assistance, required, and which the
etitreordinary natere of the case demanded.' The
leading topic of the Speech referred to the State of
and whoever looked to the adult' situation of
affairs in that Country, and the nature of those oe-
currences that led to the connection with our own,
would agree with him in the propriety of reducing
nap practical use :bat excellent maxim, that " vigor-
ous war led ,most directly to sale and honourable.
peace." Ourconnection with Spain was formed forthu
purpose of enabling her to resist the tyranuous twerp-
non • of. trance, the injustice of which would only
be equalled by-.the perfidy of the Means employed •
to accomplish the detestable design. It was indeed
ditVieult to determine which to reprobate most. lie
knew . not in what lesiva& to &scribe the fraud
and falsehood employed by Iluertaparte to itibdue a
people to whom he was united in the elosest 'bonds
ut allianc r, and who had reposed an ill-foneded con.
tidenee in .him. •In the Declaration he had Orb-
billed, ire had told them, that if they refoSi,-(1 to
accept his- brother Joseph fur their King, he would
cut out a new kingdoM for the crown
of Spain upon his own head, and
,punisit
.tlese
,whole he dared to designate as " the
.wicked.'' It
;would be welt for the yet iniconotteredleountries
in Europe (of which be was sot ry to say there were
now but few) to attend to the4irst part of this De-
claration, as there were doubtless some ro be found
from whose territories, this embryo kingdom might
be formed I. and it would be well hir
to look, to the latter part, 113 she was assuredly in-
cluded among the wicked, whom Tyrant pre.
sumptuously pretended he had a divine commission
to punish. Some few, perhaps, of his coisntry-
melt, might think that 'tily cause of freedom in Spain
was joss pure, because that country. bad not agreed
or participated in hailing the dawn of liberty, which
was (Awe thought to illutne the horizon et France.
Hut surely no sight could be more grand and 'and
ani-
mating, than such a people, whose character tor
ages bati, been famed for many virtues and noble qua.
lities, such a people rising against foreign injustice,
tyranny, and oppression; resolved to be' independant,
or to periiih in the stroggle.. Could We woneer at the
sympathy which the people of t hit country telt, at the
energy with which thel came lorwatil, And at the
gloving participation of sentiment which they ex.-
pressed in a cause so litre their own. SpeculatiVe
men 'might differ on points relatipg to internal' re-
I6rms and regulations; but it was evident, that the
Spanish people did not think the return uf a native
king to his legal throne,. incompatible with national
reform. The: cause of Spain had lost none of its first
intermit, and Britain was stilt bound' to extend her
. mighty arm, to save and succour. Under these cit.
ceinstances he could easily ceeceive what his
hla-
jesty's feelings must have been, when it was pros
posed to hug to abandon the cause of Spain, a pro-,
positionlo accord with which would have been dis-
- glacolul to the Sovereign and to the Coutrtry.,-,,
When be heard of the opening of negotiations, be
entertained littleor no hopes Ot success. Booeaparte
would not gi% e up his pretensions,. and we were not
base enough to agree to the shameful terms offered as
the grounus of treaty. Indeed, no one could believe
that the two Emperors at Erfurt') ever entertianed an.
Idea that their proirosals could be listened to, as they
must have been aware, from the history (.41thi COUll•
that we were, not in the habit of deserting our
Allies; and Surely they cott'.d never expel that we
would degenerate from :our• knOwn character, in a
causes() great and important as the present. As the
'louse weie not vet in possession of the Treaty of
Alliance entered f of wish the •Supreme Junta, it
would be pretnattne to make any remarks non thit
stmjeol,'''on %Oriel) he Witold therefore ebsiain tfo-en
&mixt Mg. This eoe t eat we had undertaken is,as
:liirArt,, out we mete ma on that revel:it to despair.
If so, tie might lune long since sat down in diem b
at:AIL have stAmnitedtb Fre.ove, tie trwq-
Caoit that noel it liStandit sire. surroo ittj

triumph
over her unstor:unes, and confilend her
oppressors :
Per d: per mites: ab ipso '.'.' .' -'"' '
fasten (lief aatirritirnette, ferro,-- .'..-.7
The. next tonic-tc) which he would a,naata*,aa, the
carlipaian it) 'Portugal ; and he could hasieho ch
'at' the Hnuse acquiescing in a semithent which ae—
knowledged the gallantry and excellence of (air forcea
employed in that country. The battles foneht spelt!.
'Thalreiffs`el verld riO-cases . ever atT re the d ise i p ate 1
of men; or the skill and military talents of their
Generals more conspicuous. AS a proof of ' tbi.; it
was only necessary to revert to 'the expression of,
p 'Wits opinion on the campaign, w hieb was not con-a,
sidered as commensurate, to what ()tight to have been I
secured fiom the bravery displaj tat by our soldiers,
and the anccess that had attended their efforts.' The
next subjea touched upon' was 'our 'relations with ,
Sweden ; and thouo Russia, ' by alint of, superior:
forcea, had obtained advantages over our Ally. yeti
every one Most admire the King of ;:tvedet I's steady
adherence to the principles which first united him
to us, awl drew down the implacable hate and:
vengeance of Buotiaparte upon his head., His de-
terthination also
,not to listen to 'terms of accom-
inotlatiou, hostile to the independence of the Spanish
Nation, gave him an additional claim tO our suppott.
It.was our duty then to assist hint with all our
power; thus evincing to the world, that Britain
never forsnok ' those who remained true to them-
Selitesand to their eniagements with her. ' It Would
also have the good
.ctle4 of establishing a charaaer •
not to' be shaken, that we never by indifference
would create hostility, where by liberality, we could
make friends. Upon a review of the existing en..
cumstances mentioned in the 'Speech, it was clear
that we could not stipport our part in the arduous
scene without incurring much eattience. :Mit on.
this point he had no cause to expatiate,'lls he was tin-
. ly happy to hear it asserte& that: the Public would
not be mat'erially burthened, Ai other means could
be found' to'answer the exigencies of the times. .It
was also highly satisfatiory for him to learO that our
revenues' were in so prosperons a stattl. tonsi-
. daring the means adopted by Our enemy, and the ex 7
ertions he used to destroy our commercial prespe.
rity, though he never thought they Would have the
full circa designed and hoped for by the contriver,
yet neither had' he been sangoine enough to inia-
•gine that they would be oinployeg so ineffieient-
1. ly ; instead of doing us any injury, a progres-
sive increase of revenue wits the consenuence. Ail .
the attempts of Buonaparte fri. uhdermilie our na-
tional strength had failed, and the trial had proved
alit Great ' Britain was superior to all the oppo-
-1 sition and schemes of deterioration :the Tyrant of
the Continent tatuld devise. The last topic to which
he should call their attention waa the military stale
'of the country. ' As he had' ever .been a friend
to the meaSures adopted in the laSt Session of Parlia-
Mew,' he rejoiced to find it had been so eminently
.successful: It was, hply.fver, necessary to provide tor
offensive as well as defeirsive.war; ea' nothing con-
tributed more effeetnally to a state of security than a
vigorous prosecution of otionsive hoitilities, Never'
was our army in a higher state of excellence in dis.-
ciphne, equipment', or numbers, and he would 4e
Wpm:, to see . some mode detas, d by which an in-
crease could be made to its preat .tt stiperiniestahlish-
'Tient. These Icing his sentiments %yid) tegard to
the principal subjaatis alluded to it) the Speech, ho
haziae,i'leatte to setenit to she etetaideratam of the
House an HI:010)10 Ackirkltii his,Nhlics.ty gin this oc-
casion The Ad Iresa was; as usual, an echo of the
,
Speech.
, Mr. S. 11. LostriamfON rose. to second the Ad-
dress. It is' highly satisfattory to me (said he) in
rising to second the Address which the !ion. Member
lots moved, that the ability and eloquence with WhiCh
he has illustrated the various important ' i °pica which
it climates, leaves little for me to perh!rin., In e"...-
euiing this lighter 'task, I trust, hewever, to 'the
usual courtesy of the House, to make a large alloW-
once for my deticiteicics. Believing as I do, that
thete never was it peried in the history of this coen7
try; when Pat 'lament assembled
ontler cireut»stances,
more deeply Aeating the vital interests of this Etn-
Oire, I, cannot but teel the strongest desire, that the
Hott!ia may join in an animated- and aminituatts ex-
pression Of loyalty and attachment to his Mdaesty'a
person, and Of hearty co-operation in the just views
. of hiS Government.'' To. the 'cordial inauilestat ion Of
these sentiments on former arduous occasions, to the
vigour thereby infused` into. measures .)t his Ma
jeatY'a Government, apd thence 'transmitted to tho
nation at large, we Owe it that at this moment Great
Britain remains sijtgle, amidst the nations of the
world, 'uolittrt and unappalled 14, the tyranny or
treachery of France. if sticks have been the acknow-
ledged' benefits tlOwing from the United force of Par-
liament on 'forer occasions, assuredly I cannot err
in antic:ll:ming: a Cordial concorreece in the tnotiol,s
made t,v tie Hon. 1`.10.,•er on this occasion, invol vitt
'as they do the ' !lanailr of the Crown, the pledged
faithould all the genercAti feelings of,tli nation, and
the only remaining hope of deliverance to Spain, and
all arose' nations who have successively tidlen under
the violence of France and their own concurring su-
liieeness. Retleeting upon the unhappy events which
iii these latter years , have alienated so many of our
Allies from Otis country, and thrown them into the
arms of the enemy, his Majemy's Ministers have felt
it particularly their duly to give an example to the:,
world of the, interest which hit Majesty takes in the
welfare of other States—of the good faith of this
-ctiunity,in performing all the duties of alliance.—
'Convioced-that they were dealing with an enemy,
'• who omitted no nuqns of fraud or force to gratify
hisinst'or aoutioiun, and satiate the vengeafiee which '
his heart feels, and his tongue often aeknowledged,
towart.V thia POuntry, his Majesty's Miuisteri have
not been delUded, by !follow suffers of peace, frorn . performing- the duty they had' solemnly pledged to
-Spain. Acting on that spirit of caution -which
the experience of former treachery justified, they.;
'ascertained that ~ the principles upon which theta
enemy professed to treat With this Country, must
be to the last degree offensive and inouhing to eVery , i
mannot prt,pitrod, to humble and disgrace it. To
have made peach; with France by abandoning Spain,
wonl,d be io.foul an set of Onv.'antice and desertion, •
that it wawa 4) the impossible ally matt conid coutt-
se& his Majesty to an ttt so diswataaul to. the;eouns
in.. War, under any ciretuthemeea of diaister that
the iinagimition can conceive, alatelis to mu prefer-.
able to such {t Petite, I feel, theiefore, th:a his Ma-
p • r • ; I ir 1 ty , ~overnment aa enitt)et, to our' W0111.1e,1. appro.
os, out, t4r antieipirlig-and dal:eating the treactter•

Enemy, for the manly Declaration published on that
occasion-. I trust, indeed, that the feelings of the
House, in .thil re.l"e& will be as general as their•
determination, covdially to support. his Majesty in
tilt} vigorous iirlsectaion of the war in ,Spain, anti
Dvt.titration 'seems to me a homage which all

parties tutt,t lie not less anxious to pay- to our
tional honour and faith, than to the principles, they
sive-themselyentforrnerlyprofesserl. Rut it we shall
desert the emise of Spnmi in 7thewicist of her re-
verses, even whilst the Spaniards, continue true la
themselves, with -what confidence can we bete for
•fall upon this country.; (or. with nations, aS,
ont'oti:Onfety. ,Sp deep a stain :will, t trust, never
punishment follows fast upon the footsteps of
dishonOur. *ftruSt., therefore, Wit every Isilember
of this House will feel, that the •faith-of Great liri
4.9lgoinly pledged to Spain and, Sweden, tnust
be rargiously obveived, and that the preservation of
I bat 'faith; in all cases' of difficulty, antl,trial,. is titt
surest tower of safety to this country, and the best
hope of deliverance to the lest ot, tlie World.
Majesty has expressed the lively ,satista4iion, he hit
derived frem the achievements of his army in the
m
Com i Commencement of the campaign n Portugal. Sir,
there is not a hamlet in this etripire which. did not
Partake of his Majesty's feelings, in viewing the
successes which crowned the valour of •his troops'
Whilst th.,y were under the sole command of tityfrigia
Hon. Friend, though the nation universally shares Itt.
the anguislrof his Majcstv's heart upon the extraor-
dinary infatuation which sacriticed.all-ilie..glories of
Vimiera to the enemy, yet I trust 'that the
P°lntments and dit&ulties which haVe-oceurred,
great apd severe as they are,,y‘iill• have-no other et:-
fen than to inspire us with kilditional.yirzour, -and
stimulate us to new exertions., in the confidence thg
the .same skiehnd heroism will bertiaitcr hiad,to tor"
pie
ft:Stilt:3.. After all the which
were held forth to us, of the failure of our revento
and commerce, (limn); the lasi Session of Pat:limiest,
it must be matter of the most substantial S3'1'4:14101)
to this House, to find that the enemy has himself
chiefly feir the evils of his owninjnst e. The sfenl
adopted by his Majesty's Government, and the
of enterprise midi-Ow:try which dist itigititth the
mercial dealings of this country, ab.tve nit the n a".
tionc of the •have alleviated the tuisoltief
ditated by France against the cesonrees, and
commerce of this country, and-, the revenges 561',
'proceeding in a state of progressive improvement.
ITN Mait,sty has recowmended to the 1-louse iltn
increase of our military power. In times of 40.1Truit '
and dii.order, those in which we our tuilitorir
strength must be made to keep pace with the 010'4
and the House feeling that not only the,suceeP.,9l,
our arms in Eoreign Contitties, but the defolic (k
our own Islands depend upon the speedy aut.,:mentar
(inn dour military power, Will no doubt determine?.
with *every pcissible *edition, the best means of oh'
taining that increase. To me this has alwayic, 111."
peered to be the paramount stNel4- atlNtvlig4
and deliberations ; andt it is-highly satistintiory td
know, that the measures atlnptticl'forthis
t h
purpoic,.have Stleceeded to the fall irm twit of 0011
PXPeOatioll4. It. 11%)W LWOW& •the: wisdnet
thiS to enable his _Majesty. to_tivath ItiMitvlfqn
the military ,Irength pt. thti dorniitiianat at, tite earilc
po,4ible peliotl, for without it therit,can be nit horo
of a soctt-5..f0l resi,t,litee or that itrilumAhiciti44ol
already 4 :S01:15 4.. Ct <II Ma [II
.1.00 filtaitt:Den 141.14 V the
globe, and slit! tilemicoi."(vithrtts'nakitit settle;
the interests and happioe,:i eche thi,,e
reasons I'most ch chilly betoud the INiution of my
tiontairabte Friend;

1 SPEAU.ER 113Y1119; put the. Quest ion, •,
Mr. PoNs6tav observed, that chi.; awful circiim-,
stances under winch the present. Sessian of Pirl4l7
ment met, had produced in the mind ofevery:man
wish te, offer his opinion add .eottrisels tending to
promOte the security of ihe Country. -His MaT
psty had infortned them that the contest in which
they *tire. engaged could- not be brought- -to' a
happy conclusion, without eurquing -a, system of
energy, poreverance,. and
.vigour.. This might
be, a
.jt4it mode of reasoning, and a fair dd
dot:lion • but lie .was grieved tothink
• . whac
disripOintment was likely to be received .from the
conduct of those ielt-ested With the direction of. the
4rins and CoUnsels of the Nation.' We could fora
hide hope''fruni men who (lad hitherto sn feel*.
remissly, and negligently directced the powerta,
means, they held at their dkposal. Never 'since!,
lingl,trid: possesed. the-rank Of one' of the roost Po'
tent of European Nations, had her means' been 40
miserably miscondueted. At the -cod of :the last
Session- of. Parliament, a Treaty with SWeden
been sanctioned by the Home, 'and- t 00,0001: pet
voted. as a subsidy to
.the :king of that
Country. This. he must confess had been regularly'
paid. Hy another article in that Treaty; .it wad
stipulated, that if Sweden was attacked, our forces
were to unite together in repelling the enemy.--!*
How iv any thing of consent---"how far any thing
of counsel—bow far
.any thing of common, under!'
standing had been preserved, we 'might form some
idea of from the fate- of ike expedition'under Sir
John Moore. This expediticin wa, bi.ought from the
south ef-Europejannt. thefhtie whet) t reVelntioit
iu Spain broke out, and sent to the north, entrusted
to the erimmand of one of the. ablest Officers Our.
country could boat. The .failute in Sweden mold
not. he ascribed to any Misconduel on the part of
John Mow'e, fur if he, had been guilty of any thing
like error,. he Would not have been again entrusted
by Ministors with the chief command of an artrY,
upon thectire6tioe of 'which not only the cause
Slain, but of England and Europe depended,
julta Moore had hOwever instead
.artny to the aid .of our Ally, been, compelled ii'
make his escape from the capital of - Sweden.i7-*
This teas a proof of the wisdom, foresight, and
vi-
goor of Mitti4ters, and of what was 40. he exPeaet
from them hereafter ! When they waged the-detest-
able war agajtist Denrark, which brought the 1.0.
tionil Character into a state of such degrpot ion, they
, ought to have secured some permanent advantage 4
bur, instead of that, the Danish Navy was a; this
stzup tuoie dastrudi voto our commerce, than it Waal('
,have been, ft:id the, expedition against' Copenhagen
neVer taken place. How the arsenal;s and stores hilla
.1)60i., destroyed, he Could not.imagine—and b 0;
single sailor had been taken. If Denmark had 'kept
her. rket, ghe %;usi!,.l stavemanned it, acid her courage
would have led her to try the clout of a I,:lttle- With
stirs, the iissie of tti'tot h,yit was. not presumptietT
say, tntist have' bc:n tat tar:l.6le to us.- iiut,i.toq these