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London, England, 1849-07-31 00:00:00

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Last evening a meeting of the inhabitants of the
borough of Marylebone, was held in Captain Hall's
Riding School, Albany-street, Regent's-park, for the
purpose of sympathising with the Hungarians in the
struggle they are at present engaged in, for the main-
tenance of their independence. Long before the hour
of meeting the doors were besieged by parties anxious to
get admission, and on the doors being opened the build•
ing was speedily crowded to overflowing. The platform
was tastefully decorated with various emblems of Hun-
garian nationality. At the back of the chair was sus-
pended the Hungarian national flag, supported by the
British colours, while over it was the Phnix rising
from her ashes, representing Hungary rising to inde-
pendence and glory. In front of the platform was
displayed the Hungarian national arms. These have
the cross on the orbs slanting, tied considerably bent,
which is explained by the following historical
fact. When Charles, who usurped the crown of Hun-
gary, was being crowned, at the moment of putting it
on it fell from his head to the ground. The assem-
bled nobles, instead of assisting him to recover it,
kicked it from one to the other, and when at length it
was taken up it was found to be much bruised, the cross
and orb bent, and in remembrance of which it has been
carefully preserved in that state. On either side of the
national arms there was inscribed " Kossuth and Inde-
pendence," " Bathyany and Freedom," " Dembinsky and
Victory," "Bern the Invincible," " Gorgey the Brave,"
" Perczel and Glory," while the two Austrian and
Russian chiefs, Jellachich and Paskewitsch, had their
names reversed and marked with crosses.
Amongst the gentlemen on the platform we observed
the-following:—Lord Nugent, M.P., Mr. Hume, M.P.,
Sir De Lacy Evans, M.P., John Abel Smith, E,q., M.P.,
Monckton Manes, Esq., M.P., Colonel Thompson, M.P.,
M. J. O'Connell, Esq., \LP., John Williams, Esq., M.P.,
W. Scholefield, Esq., M.P., J. Wyld, Esq., ALP., F.
Mowatt, Esq., M.P., J. A. Nicholay, Esq., John Robert-
son, E q., &Le &c.
• Lord Dudley Stuart entered the meeting at half-past
five o'clock, and on the motion of Mr. NICHOLAS was
*toted to the chair, amid enthusiastic cheering. On the
cheering subsiding,
Lord DUDLEY STUART spoke as follows :—Gen-
tlemen, I thank you for your encouraging and
cheering rr ception, and I assure you that I am most de-
lighted to have the honour of meeting you here to-day.
It is delightful to me to be called upon to preside over a
meeting of the men of Marylebone, assembled together to
'beUr witness to their attachment to liberty—(Cheers)—
end to proclaim their sympathy with the oppressed—
with the oppressed who are bravely and nobly defending
tlienaselves against their oppressors.—(Loud cheers.)
I have no doubt that the people of this great and en-
lightened country will speak out from one end of the
land to the other. The city of London having pro-
claimed its feelings, immediately afterwards this great,
important, and influential borough of Marylebone follows
and will not be outdone; and proud am I to see such
an assemblage, the account of which will go forth
all over Europe and all over the world. We
in Marylebone form certainly only a portion of the
Metropolis, but the three parishes composing the borough
of Marylebone form together a city larger in population,
larger in extent. superior certainly in wealth, and far
superior in intelligence to many other capitals of Europe.
—(Cheers.) And the men of this place come forward
to declare their feelings for Hungary.—(Cheers.) Yes,
gentlemen, you assemble here to-day to declare in a
manner unmistakeable how great is the ardour of your
feelings in favour of that oppressed but gai:ant people.
—(Cheers.) You tell the world that you cannot see that
noble nation struggling as it is against the attempts of
vile despots without indignation—(Cheers)—that you
caunot bear to see one nation interfering in the internal
concerns of another nation.—(Hear, hear.) Still less
can you tolerate seeing one wan with a crown upon his
head pretending that he is to decide how people are to be
governed and under what institutions they are to exist.
(Cheers.) You abhor, I know you do, all foreign inter-
ference, and you feel with me that men have
a right to govern themselves—(Loud cheers)—and,
even if they chose a bad form of government, that is their
Tight, and no foreigner, no man has any just cause of
interference with them.—(Great cheering.) But further
than that, the people of this country feel sympathy with
the people of Hungary, because they are struggling not
only for their independence, although that were reason
enough, but also they are struggling for a free govern-
ment—they are struggling for their rights, for rights
Which have been transmitted to them from father to son
during many centuries—for those natural rights which
all men have, and which rights are also legal rights;
they are struggling for a uonstitution which, more than
'tray other in Europe, or that is recorded in history, is
like our own constitution—because it is not true, as has
"een said often by the enemies of Hungary, and the ene-
mies of Hungary are numerous, and they are as base and
insidious as they are numerous—(Cheers.) The emis-
Aeries of Austria and of Rossia are making themselves
busy throughout the world, and endeavouring to raise
ul3 prejudices against Hungary by misrepresenting the
truth; and on the one hand, they tell those
who are enemies that popular rights this
moment in Hungary means nothing more than
atianu attemptii to set up a Red Republic.—(Hear, and
f ter.) Now, the truth is, that it is no such thing.
Its
übir attempt to set up a Red Republic, nor even any
not be
le, although if it were, I must say that that would
Cheers.)
t be a reason for me to withhold my support —(Loud
On the other hand, they tell those who like
• us,,ut are the friends of popular rights, to sympathise with
Hungarians; their struggle is only for aristocratical
privileges; they only wish to establish an oligarchy—
they
, care not for the people. and the people take no in-
terest in the contest. Thet statement is equally false,
as the other. The constitution of Hungary has always
been a free constitution. It has been very like our own.
It has consisted of a King, of a House of Peers, and a
i r of Commons selected by the people. It has been
freerand better than almost any other constitution in
Europe
in times gone by, and in times present the Hun-
garians, like ourselves, have felt that their institutions
required reform—(Loud cheers)—they have felt that their
suffrage required extension—they have felt that popular
rights ought to be increased—they have passed
those reforms—they have instituted those ame-
liorations—and under the guidance of their great
and illustrious Kossuth—(Loud cheers)—they have
established the freedom of the press—they have done
away with all privileges, and they have brought to more
complete perfection than it can be viewed in any other
part of the world religious liberty.—(Cheers.) I think,
then, that these Hungarians, who have been nurtured
like ourselves, and whose forefathers have acted a part
similar to our forefathers in de!ending their institutions
and in claiming when need were and sword in hand
their liberties, and who now like ourselves have ex-
tended those liberties, and have insisted upon such a
measure of them as they thought necessary for the good
of the people at large—l think that these Hungarians
are peoples who deserve the sympathy of Englishmen—
(Great cheering)—and I am certain that they always
will have it. This meeting then has been assembled to
give you an opportunity, of proclaiming your feelings in
this respect, and some resolutions will be proposed to
you which will furnish that occasion. It will be pro-
Posed that you should pass resolutions, in the first place,
Proclaiming your general sympathy with the cause—
Your horror at the atrocities which have been perpetrated
by the enemies of the Hungarians—your detestation of the
violation of the law of nations perpetrated by the Emperor
of Russia—(Loud cheers)—iu sending his troops to in-
terfere in their contest, with which they had no business
whatever—in which they could not interfere without
Committing an act of piracy.— (Cheers.) You will also
be
informed that it is intended to assist these brave
'olfutngarians by opening a subscription, so that the people
(Lone" country may peacefully afford them assistance.—
tia d cheers.) I may take this opportunity of men-
ailing that I have received to-day several letters from
ja' this 'ent persons, expressive of their desire to aid
.endeavour.—(Elear, hear.) I have one from my
al3ofl- Culleague Sir Benjamin Hall—(Loud cheers)—
hiz
eseads sueusaeri.rels
fr is only prevented from being amongst us
hecialn,,being stretched on a bed of sickness. But
that we have his entire sympathy, and
desirous contributing the sum of ten pounds to
(Cheers ) I have also a letter from another
hi""urable Frierad;the Member for Semersetshlre. I
vaavie feceived just now a letter from a gentleman with
oiliarn I 13 not acquainted, but who signs his name
4neld, expressive of the warmest sympathy, and a con-
tribution of five pounds; also a letter from another gen-
tleman who will not eive his name, which desires that it
may be entered as a Detester of Tyranny, for the like
suns or
five pounds; and a lady—who I do not know—
has wiittea to me, enclosing me five pounds, desiring me
110._ insert the subscription as from an Euglishwoman. I
diVre great pleasure in so inserting it, and I have also
°tiler noble donation from a gentleman who likes to do
dnot have his, and would blush to finding fame—he will
: name mentioned, but he shows his sincerity
in the eaus() by sending a donation of 1001.—(Loud
leers, and
" One cheer more.") Gentlemen, at this
n
. Qerey moment I have received another donation which has
put into my hands from Jonas Murray, and who
o n
contributes the sum of too/. (Cheers.) I think, gentle-
men, that these subscriptions, thus begun to-day in the
borough
of Ater I bone, will spread through the land—
(Cheers)—ane bY e
afford to the bra,3;ernveans of which we shall be able to
assistance.—(Cheers.) of Hungary some important
posed to you, asking You to call
resolution will be pro-
II upon the Government
to recognise the independee2;
cheers.) I am interrupted Hungary.—(Loud
regard to this subject
by my friend Mr. Nicholay,
Goldsmith,
me that there is
dsrnith, of Harley
street, subscription from Francisshat
throb
be street, of 51.; bat I give notice
5 willi. oug h a sentence
inter-
rupted again, because I could not get
if I were to step every time that
—(Laughter and cheers.) Then you come now.
asked to petition both Houses or Parliamentwill be
and the Crown to recognize the
Government
there.n
of Hungary—(Cheers)—and I do not think that a,
proper course could be adopted.—(Loud cheers.
is generally a very great objection to war, and
are many reasons why this country ought not to go to
War ; but this matter of recognizing the independence
of Hungary would render her almost as great as if you
were to send an army to her succour, and it would be a
matter entirely of a pacific character.—(Hear, hear.)
ttungary, gentlemen recommends herself' to you as
being a country which, has ever promoted liberty—which
has ever demanded and enjoyed local self government—
(hear and cheers)--one of the most important things
that can affect the welfare of a nation, and one which is
„ 11 appreciated in Marylebone.—Prolonged cheering.)
Itungary has always enjoyed because she hes demanded
t'eal self-government. j Shey was divided into fifty. two
nties, like England; and in all those counties the

affairs of the ceentre were carried on Ly local self-
government, a tele the central GoVOrElla,at was never
allowed to interf'ere any way. The representatives
were elected by the nobles, as they were called, but v he,
in reality, were nethrig more than freeholders. Since that
time ~hie,.; hew, been so alterel that every body has a
vote, with some (permeation.— (Clieere.) Ido not pre-
tend that they have get universal suffrage thera.—
(Hear.) Ido not say so— hut we say that they have
progressed, and we are quite aware that they are de-
termined to proceed in their onward career.—(Cheers.)
Those representatives were so elected, and the electors
had the right of calling upon them to resign their seats
if they do not act to their satisfaction.—(Cheete.) An-
other feature in the Goverment of Hungary has been
the complete triumph of religious as well as civil liberty.
—(Loud cheers.) There is no difference as to creed,—
(Loud cheers)—there is no excleadon on acceunt
of any religious faith ; and for some time
there was that perfect equality of all Christian
creeds, and lately they have put the crown to it all by
finally and completely emancipating also the Jews.—
(Cheers.) And, besides this, I may tell you that in the
present Government of Hungary, the constitutional
national Government, with Keesuth at its head, there
are men of every religious persuasion. The Minister
of Public Instruction is certainly a Roman Catholic
bishop, but his secretary is a Protestant. That is the
way that affairs are carried on in that country, and I think
you will say that is the right way—(Hear, hear)—and
besides this, no country has ever been so much attached
to free trade as Hung,ary.—(Loud cheers.) If, there-
fore, this nation is calculated to excite our sympathies
on account of its civil and religious liberty—on account
of its good institutions, with regard to local self-govern-
ment, and in other respects, it also ought to enlist all
our commercial sympathies by its supporting and pro-
moting the principle of free trade--(Cheers) --and it
would be a most important benefit to this country. Upon
a strictly selfish principle, we ought to desire to see
Hungary independent, for there would be immediately
a large opening for our manufactures, and a trade would
spring up between Great Britain and Hungary which
would have the effect of enriching the inhabitants of both
countries, and promoting the welfare of all.—(Loud
cheering.) And is it not intolerable—is it not enough to
make one's blood boil, to think that at this very time
those perfidious Austrians—(Hisses)--and those butchers
of Russia—(Elissing)—are all leaguing together in an
unholy and infernal alliance in order to put down this
brave and glorious and gallant people?—(Loud cheers.)
We may condemn them out of their own mouths—
we have only to read their own proclamations.—(Hear,
hear.) I this day read in the Times newspaper.— (Loud
groaning and hissing, and a great uproar.) Gentlemen,
I am quoting to you (he words of the Austrian General
himself, reported this day in that paper which I have
mentioned, an official bulletin.—(Hisses.) Well, what
do you think of that great man—that man whom I c
in
only describe as the butcher Ilaynau? He has come
into the Hungarian town Pesth, and he says to the people
—" Doomed to death are ail"—(this is not pronounced,
but it is deliberately written and printed—" who take
part with the Hungarians." Now, listen. "Of what-
ever age, of whatever sex."—(Hisses,) That is not all.
It goes on—" Doomed to death are all, of whatever age,
of whatever sex, who circulate any false rumours in ~e-half
half of the rebels."—(Hisses.) I do not think it is pos-
sible to conceive anything more base, bloody minded, or
brutal than this.—(Hear. hear.) But I am happy
to think that this is likely to be impotent rage,
because those brave Hungarians have by this
time well beaten General Haynau—(Cheers)—and all the
the other generals who have attempted to resist them—
(Prolonged cheering) —Haynau, Wieldee, Windischgratz
—all of them—all these minions of despotism have been
beaten by the brave Hungarians.—(Cheers.) The Rus
sians have been called in, but it has only been to be
beaten.—(Loud cheering.) The gallant Bem— (Voci-
ferous cheering)—from the first day that he met with
the Russians, remembered his old habit when he used to
meet them in Poland.—(Loud cheers.) He gave them a
beating then—he drove them out of Transyl-
vania—he has beaten them in encounter after
encounter; and, please God, aided by his gal-
lant countrymen, Dembinski, he will succeed
in driving both Austrians and Russians back
to their own country, and in establishing the indepen-
dence of Hungary.—(Cheers ) Yes, gentlemen,
you will help these gallant fellows—(Great
cheering) —you will cheer their spirits—you
will send them moral supper:, if you insist
upon the Government of this country recognizing their
independeuce.—(Continued cheering.) Speak out—h t
the men of Marylebone speak out—(Cheers)—and tell
the Government—tell Lord Palmerston—(Cheers)—that
he could do nothing more agreeable to the people of this
country than to give at least his moral support to the
people of Hungary.—(Cheers.) Gentlemen, I will tell
you, as I have mentioned Lord Palmerston, an anecdote
about that Noble Lord.—(Hear, hear.) I will not go
hack to the pages of history—l will tell you an anecdote
which dates this very day. I happened to be this morn-
ing at the Waterloo station when the train was depart-
ing. Her Majesty's Ministers had this day to go down
to Osborne to wait upon her Majesty; they came up to
the train, and just after the train had set off arrived a
carriage full gallop, and in it was Lord Palmer-
ston.—(Laughter.) He was too late for the train.—
(Renewed laughter.) It was necessary for him
to go. He did not know what he was to
do—but in a moment ho jumped upon an engine, and
with the engine he set off.—(Cheers and laughter.)
Well now, Gentlemen, let Lord Palmerston ride on the
engine of public opinion.—(Vociferous cheering.) Let
him not stop for the first class—(Laughter)—let him
take the advice of meetings such as these. lie will then
overtake and surpass all other Ministers.—(Cheers.) He
will consult for the advantage of his own country and
the welfare of Hungary and of Europe.—(Cheers.)
Gentlemen, I have detained you a great deal too long
in opening the business of the day —(No, no; go on.)
I did not mean to have said half so much. I shall now
hasten to call upon gentlemen who have been kind
enough to say they will take a part in the proceedings
of the day to move the resolutions; but before
I resume my seat, permit me to say this—
I feel exceedingly anxious for the success of this
Marylebone meeting.—(Hear and cheers.) I feel a per-
sonal pride in it. lam anxious that it should not be se-
cond except in date to the one held the other day in the
City.—(Cheers.) I am anxious that it should set an ex-
ample to all other meetings; and, therefore, I am most
desirous that nothing should occur to trouble the good
order of the proceedings.—(Hear, hear.) Be assured of
this—We have enemies, we have emissaries of Russia
and of Austria watching us closely—(llear and hisses)—
and ready, if we stumble in the slightest degree to pro-
claim it to the world, and to tura it to our shame.—
(Hear.) Therefore, let us show an example how the
men of Marylebone can act upon such great occasions.
—(Cheers.) Let us not be backward in expressing and
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Mr. IlumE then presented himself to move the first
resolution, and was received with much applause. He
said he had attended there that day to express his ad-
miration of the gallant conduct of the Hungarians, and
he was glad to see so numerous a meeting assembled in
their behalf.—(Cheers.) He was pleased at that nume-
rous assembly, because on other occasions, when Rations
had broken neunder the bonds that bowed them down,
he had seen equally numerous assemblages in that
parish to congratulate them on the event. In 1830 he
presided at a meeting, held not far from that place, which
had for its object the congratulating the French people
on the success which had attended them in the assertion
of their rights, and on having driven from their shores
those who had attempted to tyrannise over them.—
(Cheers.) He hoped the meeting would be productive
of beneficial results. At the distance they were from
Hungary they could do little more than express their
sympathy for those Hungarians who were struggling for
their rights against such odds—ah, struggling against
odds that would daunt almost the bravest man; yet,
from the accounts they received from day to day of the
head they were making against those odds, and
when they were also told that almost every male in Hun-
gary was in arms against the oppressors of that coun-
try, he thought there was ground for hope that Hun-
gary would maintain her ground. If one country
more than any other ought to sympathise with
them in that struggle it was this country. Here they
were enjoying liberty, but it had only been attained
after many years of struggle.—(Hear, hear.) They
had done much in the way of reform, but they had yet
more to do— (Cheers)—and they ought, therefore, to
have a fellow feeling for those who were not so fortunate
as themselves, and who were being run down by—he
would not call them butchers, but barbarians from the
north, and whose movement to the south was intended
to stifle and put down that representative system which
alone was calculated to give relief to nations. For him-
self, he was anxious to see people enjoying all the rights
it was possible for them to enjoy under a free govern-
ment; and while he had no doubt that the meetine fully
agreed with him in sympathising with the Hungarians,
he would take the liberty to throw out a suggestion. In
(Loud
t u
t tib
1830, when they adopted the address to the French
cheers.)esatueplan Wiryb
people, they sent a deputation to Paris to present it.
S)
e carriedsnon outnot n th e
present some
of their friends go to Hungary, and tender the
sympa-
thies of the people of England to the noble Hungarians?
—(Cheers.) Ile wily wished that he had more e, and
was a little younger, and he would go himself.—(Loui
cheers.) But when he looked around him on that plat-
form he was satisfied there would be no want of men to
go—(Cheers)—and, should it be agreed upon, lie thought
it would have a very good effect. He trusted, at all
events, that the people of this country would do their
utmost to aid the Hungarians, and would conclude by
moving " That this meeting regard with sincere admira-
tion, respect, and sympathy the noble determination of
the Hungarian nation to maintain intact their just rights
and the constitutional independence they have inherited
from their fathers, against the tyrannical encroachments
of Austrian despotism."—(Cheers.)
Mr. JOHN CASSELL seconded the resolution. He was
happy to see so numerous a meeting of the people of
Marylebone assembled tot express their detestation of
this barbarous and unjust war, waged by Austria and
Russia against the Hungarians. He trusted that a war
so unjust would call forth the unanimous expression of
the people of England, and that, so far as their moral in-
fluence could go, they would exert it in favour of the
Hungarians. Rapine, murder, fire, and slaughter cha-
racterised the onward march of the Russian and Aus-
trian forces, But, thank God, it was not a victorious
march, for the gallant Bem, Dembinsky, and George),
had given them a severe check.—(Cheers.) It was im-
possible for those barbarians to put down the people of
Hungary,—(Cheers.) But why was all this chastise-
ment manifested towards
them? Had they been dis-
loyal to their Ding? No •
such thing, for they had
often •
risen in
defence of the Crown of Austria. But
Hungary was fighting for its just . rights, in regard
to which Austria had no more right to interfere with
her than had this country a right to interfere with the