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London, England, 1822-06-18 00:00:00

COMMEitCE-NAVIGATION.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved the second reading of.
the Ancient Commercial StAntes Repeal,Bill; the Importation
of Goods Repeal Bill, and the Navigation Amendment Bill.
His Lordship observed, that the three Bills formed a new sys-
tem, which he thought • would be found highly beneficial to
our commerce and navigation. The first Bill repealed no less
than 300 Acts of Parliament, not by any sweeping- clause„.but
nomiaatim and. seriatim; a measure which of itself would,
prove highly bendicial,it being a fact that there were persons
who' actually obtained a living by informing merchants what
they could \ do, and what they -could not do, the Acts as
they 'at present stood operating as clogs upon almost all the,
operations of commerce. With regard to the Navigation Act,
dated the 12 Charles 11. it had invariably since that period been
th'epoliey'of the country to adhere to it e and when it was•con.
sidered that the Navigation Laws formed a nursery for sea-
men for the service of the country in time of war, it must be
obvious that to adhere to those laws, as-far as possible, was the
best policy upon which the British Government could act.
'This policy must however, of course, be' subject to times and
circumstances, and it was upon the principle of it, modified by
the.changes-which had taken place, that' the system purposed
to be carried into effect by these Bills was established. Under
the Navigation Laws; as they formerly stood, the produce and
manufactures of Asia, Africa, and America must be imported
into this country in British ships. When the United States of
America became independent, it was deemed consonant with .
every sound principle to place them upon the same footing as
the States of Europe. by which 'the produce and manufactures
of the former were allowed to be imported in American as well
as in British ships, as with regard to State's of Europe, the
'ships Of those 'states were allowed to import their produce and
manufactures equally with British ships. A further alteration
had now become necessary, in consequence of thechanges which
had taken place in other,parts of the continent of America' and
as it was impossible- die Colonies on that Continent could ever
return to what they were, it was proppsed to further modify
the principle.of the Navigation Laws so as to.allow the im-
portation of the.produce and manufactures of states throughout
the Continent of America in the ships of thoSe States, as well
.
as in British ships, and to do away the necessity of passing a
Special Act of Parliament to meet temporary circumstances. It
was proposed that from Spanish America the imports might take
place either-in Spanish ships, or ships of the States established
there, as well as in British ships. The principle of the Navigation.
Laws would in other respects remain the same. With the ex-
ception of a provision allowing the import into this country from
the States of Europe, ins- ships• not hitherto permitted by those.
laws, of the.produce of the West Indies, &c. imported into those
States, the object of this provision being as much as possible to
render this country an entrepot for the commerce of 'tire world.
With regard to the aelditibnal freedom given to commerce, it.
was only necessary for him to observe, that it was a great mis-
take to suppose that one country, by throwing obstacles in the
way of the commerce of other countries, could benefit itself.—
Nothing could be more true, than that the More other countries
increased in wealth and prosperity, the greater would be the
'advantage to our own commerce and Manufactures. The dis-
tress of our manufactureri arose from the want of adequate re-
turns ; let other countries go on increasing iii wealth and pro-
sperity, and there was scarcely any limit that could be assigned
to'the returns that might be received by our manufacturers for
the products of their capital and industry. In whatever way,
therefore, we could contribute by allowing a greater freedom of
commerce to the wealth and prosperity of other countries, in a
proportionate degree wecontnbuted to our own wealth and pros-
perity, it being certain that the increase of the mears of other
countries to purchase olr manufactures tended directly to the
increase of our own wealth. It was upon these principles that
the
present Bills were brought forward, and had been paSsed by
the House of Commons.

The Earl of HAREWOOD said he did not mean to object
to the principle stated by the .-Noble Earl as to freedom ,Of
commerce tending, by increasing the wealth of other-'coun-
tries, to augment our own, but he thought, that to carry such
a principle into full effect the means ought to be afforded
to our own manufactures of entering - into competition with
those of foreign countries; thus, for instance, with regard
to the woollen manufacture, the duty imposed upon foreign
wool tended to increase the price of the manufactured articles
so as to prevept it, in a great degree, from entering into that
competition.
The three 'Bills above-mentioned were read a second time,
and committed'for to-morrow. • ,

The Earl-BATHURST moved the second reading of the
Colonial Trade Bill, and the America and West India Trade
Bill. His Lordship observed that an intercourse had been
for some time carried •on between our West India Colo-
nies and• the United States of America in British ships, the
former exporting to the latter sugar, rum and• certain enu-
merated articles, and receiving• in return lumber and certain
enumerated articles. This trade, which was contrary to the
original Navigation Laws, it had been found necessary to
Permit, and it had also been found expedient to allow a free
trade at Bermuda; Halifax, and St. John's. , In consequence
of the changes which had since taken place, it was now deem-
ed expedient to allow the trade between our West India Islands
and the United Statei of America to be carried on in ships
of the United States, as well as in British ships, and to allow
a similar trade between our West India Islands, and other
States on the Continent of America. To protect our own.
North American Colonies, it had been deemed expedient to
impose a duty on the articles imported into the West Indies
from the United States of America, not a prohibitory one, but
merely sufficient to place the trade on an equal footing with

Mr. DAVENPORT presented Petitions from the Inhabi-
tants of Lancaster, and the Mayor and Corporation of Congle-
•ton, against the Warehousing' Bill.--Ordered to be printed.
Mr. CUFF presented a Petition from Newark, calling the
attention of the House to the evils resulting from the preva-
lence of Mock Auctions.—Ordered.to be printed.
Mr. R. SHAW presented a .Petition from the Chamber of
Commerce, Dublin, praying that the House will revise the late
•regulations adopted •relative to the Salt Diity; considered by
the .Petitioners to be prejudicial to- the interests of Ireland.
Mr. CURWEN thought the prayer of the Petition was,
,worthy of attention. The Petition was ordered to be printed..
Sir W. CURTIS presented a Petition from the Watch-
makers of the City of London, against that part of the Ware-
housing Bill, relative to foreign clocks and watches.—Ordered
to be printed. • • .
Sir W. LEMON: presented a Petition from some Fisher-
men of Cornwall,-against, the Tax- upon Salt.—Ordered to lie
on the table: , . • •

Sir R. FERGUSON presented a similar Petition from
Perth.---Ordered to lie on the table.

The Fish Preservation Bill .wr.v. 'read a second time, and or-
dered to be committed to-morrow.
BAKERS' ,REGULATIONS BILL.

. The Bakers' Regulations Bill was reeothmitted, the Report
received, and ordered -to be read a third time on Thursday
next.

Lord A.'HAMILTON presented a Petition from various
Corporations 'of Edinburgh. ai:d Inverness against the Royal
Burghs Accounts Bill.—Ordered to he printed.
SALT TAX.

Mr. W. SMITH presented a Petition from the Fish:.eurers
of the,town of Bolton, in Cambridgeshire, praying for a further
remission of the Skit Tax. • • • _

Mr. CURWEN pressed upon the consideration of the Chan-
cellor pf the Exchequer the propriety of removing this bur-
then from the fisheries, whichswas so grievously felt, and for
retaining which no adequate-reason, he thought, could be as-
signed. •
• • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in the
course of some observations which, from the noise prevailing
in the House,- were not, distinctly heard in the gallery,' stated,
that it was not his-intention-to persist in retaining the duty of
-2s. on the4alt used in-the Fisheriei. He had only proposed
that it should remain subject to that.duty for two years, at the
out of which, period most of the bounty would expire, and the
whole subject -would then have come under the consideration of
the House. Since, however, he found that the retention of
this-portion of the tax had-created great alarm in those inte--
reste4, and had. resolved upon not persisting in his original
intention.—(Hear.)
• General "ASCOYNE complained of a discuAsion having
been entered into,on a subject of so much general interest at
that period of the evening, and when so little expected. The
consequence in the present instance had been to him, that he
had not been able to hear•all that had fallen from the Right
'Hon., Gentleman.

:ITr. Britew•and the CHANCELLOR of' the EXCHEQUER
made observations which were inaudible in the gallery. •
Mr. BRIGHT hoped that if. the Chancellor of the Exche.
quer had any -scheme. for the reduction of this most oppressive
tax, he would 'carry it into effect directly. Whatever he.did
with 'respect to it, 'it-was quite necesSary that he 'should re..
model the Excise Laws for the collection of the Tax: Ile
could retain them for-no other reason than patronage, or that
he would not abandon one or two hundred thousand pounds ;
and strong as his Majesty's Government was, if it went forth
to the country that it was•not their intention to repeal 'these
laws, they would receive a shock from public opinion. The
Petition was then read; and ordered to be printed. •
POLICE.

Mr. Secretary PEEL brought up the Report of the Select
Committee on the state of the Polite of the Metropolis, which
was ordered to be laid on the table, and to be printed.
MONEY WAGES.

Mr. LITTLETON presented a Petition from the Coal and
Iron Masters, and others of,the Town of Dudley, in' Stafford-
shire, and its neighbourhood, praying the attention' of the
House to the Laws restraining the Payment of Wages in any
other commodity than Money. The Hon. Member impressed
upon the house the necessity of taking this subject into their
consideration. The master-manufacturers had resolved in
many cases that the workmen should lay out their wages at
certain shops, which belonged to themselves, and in order.: to
evade the law, they discharged all those who did not do`so,—
The consequence of this was, as the Petitioners complained,
that they had had provisions at exorbitant prices.
Mr. ROBINSON said the House would perceive from the
Petition, that the Bill-which had been passed of late years to
restrain master-manufacturers and others from paying their
workmen's wages in any thing but money, was quite ineffica-
cious. It was clear that ways and means could easily be
found to evade the law-on that subject. He confessed this had
always been his opinion, and now that it appeared to be so be-
yond doubt, he should feel it his duty hereafter to draw the at-
tention of the House to the question of the propriety of conti-
nuing the law.
Mr. DAVIES GILBERT concurred in all that had fallen
from the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Robinson) with respect
to these laws. These laws prevented many masters from im-
porting provisions from cheaper districts for the benefit of their
men, whilst they did not prevent those•from doing so whose in-
tentions were bad.

Mr. RICARDO made some observations to the same effect,
which were not distinctly audible in the gallery.
Lord STANLEY said, that however much he agreed in the
propriety of removing the inefficacious restrictions on this sub-
ject, he hoped that some measure would be introduced to pre-
vent the payment of wages in commodities.
Mr. MONCK observed that there was a great distinction be-
tween paying in commodities, and paying in provisions. The
latter was most useful and beneficial, and the former very much
the r4verse.

After a few words from Mr. HUME, the Petition was
brought up and read, and ordered to be printed.
Mr. LITTLETON also presented a Petition from certain
Silk Manufacturers in the neighbourhood of Dudley, against
the Warehousing Bill.—Ordered to be printed.
THE DISTRESSED)

Mr. y. FITZGERALD rosefor the pMpose of putting a
question to the Right Hon. Secretary for Ireland, on the sub-
ject' of the afflicting accounts which continued hourly to be
received from that country, and which must also have reached
his Majesty's Government. Under these circumstances it was
that he desired to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman below,
what further measures of relief were in the contemplation of
his Majesty's Government towards Ireland; and what prOgress
had been made in the application of those already adopted? He
need not tell the House that the awful situation of that country
would admit of no longer delay.—(Hear, hear !)—The charity
of England, however active, its liberality, however extensive,
were yet not sufficient; and the sums voted by Parliament
were not enough to support present distress, and still less to
Meet that which was approaching for the next seven or eight

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Friend for the Opportunity he had afforded him of explaining
the conduct„of the Irish Government on this interesting subject.
In answer to the queStion, as to the measures of relief already
put in practice, he had to inform his Right Hon. Friend, that
from-the moment it had appeared to the Lord Lieutenant ad-
visable ••to interfere, a Committee had been appointed in Dub-
lin, for the purpose of communicating with the . Committee ex-
isting in the part of the country suffering under the preSsure of
distress ; and fonds,, which since the year 1807 had been at the
disposal of the Lord Lieutenant, to be applied in the event of
a calamity like the present afflicting the.country, were placed
in the hands of that Committee, and by them to be applied to
those districts which seemed to them most in want of assistance.
The Committee applied itself sedulously and anxiously to the
task, and put themselves in immediate communication with. all
th.i other Committees throughout the distressed districts,
through whcise means they had been enabled to contribute, as
far as the limits, of their funds would permit,. relief in
lar cases. It wkaild also be- in the recollection of the House
. that a measure had .been under its consideration, having two
distiinct brancht.s of operation.... The one was to enable- the
'Government of Ireland to institute the commencement of pub-
lic wOrlesr-and the other for placing absolutely at its disposal
a sum of 50,0001. Upon these powers being granted to the
Government of Ireland per's/ins: were dispatched into the dis-
tressed districts, with full powers to put into execution any
species of work that might appear -to be most- applicable to.
the local distress. In some districts worki had already
been -commenced, and he had no doubt of the steps that had,
been taken in this respect answering the expectations formed
of them. He had said before that lie did not think the sum
-placed at the disposal of the Lord' Lieutenant adequate to
meet the exigencies of the case; but it was the "Object of' the
Government of that country to obtain the commencement of
works, and afterwards to apply for such sums as the liberality
of Parliament should be-disposed to grant for their continuance
and- coMpletion. He felt Much satisfaction -in being able to.
state, that the extreme distress which had afflicted -different
parts of Ireland, was now limited to not a very large portion
of the country. But undoubtedly there was enough left to call
upon Parliament and the Government of Ireland to provide
further measures of relief; and whenever the funds. at the die_
posal of the Lord Lieutenant should be exhausted, it would
be his duty to come to . Parliament for such further sums a'
might appear to be necessary.—( near; hear,!)
Mr. JOHN SMITH confessed lie was surprised, upon hear-
ing- that there was a Committee sitting in Dublin to afford re-
lief, •and coupling with that face, that the accounts received
that day were more calamitous thahany that had yet been re-
ceived. He would state' to the House some accounts of the
extent of the distress in Ireland, derived from sources and in
a manner that could admit of no doubt its-to their accuracy.
Such was the situation, for. instance; of the county of Clare,
that there were not less than 99,539 individuals subsisting on
charity.—(Hear, hear !).--in Cork, from an estimate made by
.a Committee of Clergymen and Magistrates, there appeared to
be 132,000 who had no means of_ their own of subsistence, and
intnit perish from hunger Withont charitable relief.--(llear !)-2
In addition to-this, the account from Clare that day stated that
several individuals had perished of hunger.• Now what the
Irish Governnient was &mg lie knew not, but the first duty of
any GOvernment worth a farthing *as to -remedy such a state,
of things. ,He was sure that . the Irish, Government had not
enough money at its command for this purpose; the Commit-.
tee was not sufficient for the-exigency of the case, and he im-
plored the Right Hon. Gentleman to take more active steps'
than had yet been 'taken for the relief of this overwhelming dis-•
tress.—(Bear, hear!) .•
Mr. eSPRING RICE said, that in Limerick out Of 67,090
there were 50,000 subsisting on-charity. ' He took that oppor..
tunity of stating his opinion that however great the funds, and
however zealous the Committee, yet if they were treble what'
they were it would be impossible fen' them to do more than al-
leviate in the slightest possible degree the sufferings of the diis
tressed Irish. They must rely upon Government to check the
misery that was rapidly spreading. He hoped that whatever
was,their intention they would effect it speedily, for those who
were in want of it would otherwiSe perish. •
Sir E. 013111-ENSsaid,• it was their any seriously to review
the situation of the resources, applied to this,purpose, which '
were diminishing fast. Whatever was to be done he trusted
would be done speedily.
Mr. V. FITZGERALD saidbehad meant to throw out no. ,
reproach, but lie felt it right tostate that the case was one Of
such extensive distress and such dire necessity, that 'the means
at the command of the Committee were utterly inadequate to
meet the evil. He would abstain from reciting facts, though if
dispoSed to do so he could add Many to those which had been
mentioned by his Hon. Friend. It was however proper to bear
in mind that the ravages of fever were nosy- added to those of
famine in that unhappy country. Not only were the funds
placed at the disposal of the Committee incapable of stopping
the-calarnityebut it 'continued -to -increase from day. to day ;
and he therefore thought the the most manly course that could
be taken would be at once to submit the case to the-House and
.
appeal to the liberality of Parliament.
Sir J. NEWPORT was of opinion that unless means were
found to employ- the, population of Ireland, and that exten-
sively, the'foundation of an ulterior evil would be laid 'more -
formidable even thin that with .which we had at present to
contend; an evil which would not only 'exist thiongh this or
through the next year, but which would strike at the root of
all industry for a long period to come. Large its the means,
and great as the 'benevolence of this country unquestionably
were, those means and that benevolence were incapable of
affording efficient relief unless the means of existence. were
drawn from the immediate neighbourhood of the sitiTerers.
The aid that might be afforded ought to be given in such a way
that it should take the shape of reward fbr labour, rather than
that-of a boon to mendicity.

Mr. Secretary PEEL appealed to the House if enough had
not been said on-The: subject, to prove that further discussion
was at this time unnecessary. He perfectly agreed with the
Right Honourable Baronet that this was not a mere pecuniary
question. The importance of the subject lifted it above the
ordinary rule of financial calculation. The question was not
whether a sum of money should be advanced to Ireland; but
besides the consideration of that, other duties of no mean import-
ance devolved upon the Government. At present he could
assure the House that the attention of the Irish Governlnent
was almost exclusively devoted to this one subject. They
were endeavouring to give gelid, in every possible way,, mot
with strict regard to the pfinciples of political economy, for
unhappily the case was one that compelled themto set all or-
dinary -rules 'at defiance. The Irish' Government then, with-
out any view to a mere saving of public money, were labour-
ing to do as much good as they could, at the same time striv-
ing to guard against those-evils which were but too likely to
be concomitancwith the efforts thus made. In order to ac-
complish all that could be' effected for the relief of the mil-
lions who now called for aid, engineers were engaged -to see
what works could 'be commenced, that would affbrd occupa-
tion to the people. Three engineers were now employed in the
South-west of Ireland for this purpose. Their report was im-
mediately e?cpected, and six thousand pounds had already been
thus appropriated, not for any public undertaking, but in order
to effect improvements of a local and private nature. They
were thus looking our fur ways of employing the sufferers, not
forgetting, at the same time, that rnanyhundreds were endu-
ring great privation who were incapable of labour. On a sub-
ject of such delicacy and importance, he hoped the House
'would come to no resolution at present, but being satisfied the
attention of the Government was fully directed to it, he trusted
they would feel that to extend the limits of this conversation
might be injurious rather than beneficial.
Mr. ABERCROMBY had always felt that in-attempting
to affbrd relief, great care and foresight were necessary to
guard against future evil. He was of opinion that this -debate
ought not to be further extended, but could not help rising to
express the satisfaction he had felt at -hearing what had fallen
from the Right Hon. Gentleman.
Here the conversation terminated.
• SCOTCH BURGHS.

Mr. HUME presented a Petition from the Corporation of
Shoemakers at Inverness against the Royal Burghs Accounts
Bill. Ordered to lie on the table.

Mr. J. P. GRANT presented a similar Petition from the
Burgesses of Inverness. Ordered to be printed.
Sir R. FERGUSSON presented a Petition on the same sub-

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SALT.
from certain Fish.
Mr. IL BRIGII
:Curers and'Dealers in Fish praying, the total repeal
.of-the Salt Duty.'
Lord :FIFE presented a similar , Petition from) the' Fish,
Curers in the County* of Reiff.-Ordered to be.printed.
Mr. HEATIICOTE' presented a Petition from the Mer-
chants, Ship-oWnersi.and Wharfingera- of Gainsborough,•pray=ding for the total repeal of the Salt Tax. He strongly suported
;the prayer of the. Petition,- and heped th& unpopular measure
would be wholly -repealed,' as' that 'alone could remove an im-
Irression now very prevalent throughbrat the country, that the
!portion of the Tax proposed to be retained-was only kept. up in
!drder to serve 'for a fottndation to augment it at no distant
)period to its late amount.—Ordered to lie on the table: • -
STAMP DUTIES. •
Mr. HOI3HOUSh; present-4a Petition from certain Benefit
• Societies, cOMplainitig).or ifif!...lllll now in the IrouSe for the re-=
gulation of the, 'Stamp: D.citlese and stating, 'that 'a • clauie in
that Bill took from' these Societies the exemption. from. Stamp
Duties Which they had hitherto
,injoyed.—The Petition ,was
read and 'ordered to 14-printed. •
MP HUME-presented a Petition -from. the
.Corporatioh of
!Perth against the Stamp duty payable on Indentures of Ap-
prentieeship.--.-Ordered, to lieen the table.
On'themotion 'of 'Lord' ST'ANLVY, accounts of the quart-
- tities of 'PotaSli imported; from• the United Statesinto the Co-
lonies, and into Ireland, were ordered to be laid before the House.
A Message frdm the Lords announced their Lordships'
• sent to the Courts Improvement Bill, and other Bills,
SCOPTCII 8E.311015. ACCOUNTS, BILL.
The LORD ADVOCATE Moved the Order of the Day
should be read for taking into further consideration the Scotch
"Burghs' Accounts Bill.
. The Order of the Day having been read,
The LORD ADVOCATE moved that the Bill be re-com-
mitted. ' •
6 Mr. H. DRUMMOND moved that an instruction should be
given to the COmmittee to consider of the propriety of divid-
ing the Bill into two.
The motion was agreed to. • •
•
Lord A.-HAMILTON pointed out I various defects in the
Bill, and colnplained that nothing • at all was done to correct
the evil of self-election, and this not being removed, it was ut-s
terly impossible that the _measure should set the questions at.
rest which had lately been so mach-agitated between the Bor.
. gesses and their Magistrates. He-took the liberty to state that
not only had he the authority of law, and common sense on his
side, in favour of not allbwing the power of self:election, but a'
considerable portion of the Magistrates themselves had given it
as their opinion that 'the change which he wished to beAffected
would not be in any degree subversive of their just rights. Of
all the numerous complaints Which the' Petitioners had laid be-
foie. the IfouSe, .this Bill did not correct one, save that it intro-
duced some amelioration 'into the mode of making out the ac-
counts. He conceived the, pill to be totally incompetent to
remedy the evil which it Professed to have in view, but it was
as fit to correct the.particular'defect to which it did apply, as‘any
other Bill now, before the House. He gave his hearty dissent
to the measure now. reserving to himself the right of giving a
final opinion on it when he -saw in what shape it• came out of
the Committee. ' -• '. •
The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND said, as the
Noble Lord had submitted no better plan to the House than
that embodied in this Bill, .he hoped there would be no objeC-
don to allow it .to go into a Committee, when the remedies
which he had to proposo—remedies not vised-by him but by
Committees of that House, would, he flattered himself, satisfy
the Douse. Ile thought- they could not go further than this
Bill.did without being in danger of infringing the charter rights
of Scotland which had been secured to that country by the-Act
'of Union. Theoppoaition givenito the Bill conlinted him' in
the idea that it would check the 'evil.
. Mr. J. P. GRANT was not satisfied with the measure, and
could not agree that to go further would affect the chartered
rights of Scotland.
Mr. HU3lE.was not satisfied with the present Bill, and, was
confident that no measure would correct the evil that did not.
remove that which had been so-long complained of, le Prac-
tice of self-election, as. exercised by ,the ..Magistrates of the
Royal Scots 'Burghs, He thought 'it was too much for' the
Learned Lord .to talk of respecting, the chartered rights of
Scotland now, after the-manner in which they had been openly
violated through the last iW years. • lie hoped the Douse would
diaregard the plan of the Learned .Lord, and give the people
•of these Burghs the means of protecting their own righ Wand
- liberties. He wished to ask, if 'the Learned Lord had pro-
vided for the correction of thedefectin the representation of
the'several Corporations of Trades ? With these opinions it
might be expected that he. should oppose the Bill. But as
some of his friends thought it might he prodtictiVe of Some
:little good, he was willing to take that rather tarn nothing.
Mr. IV. SMITH contended that the evils of the Scotch
Burgh systeni required efficient ,remedies. He, thought the
clause of the Bill which went to punish corruption, in some
measure redeemed the other objeetions which might lie against it.
Lord BINNING-defended the system of chartered rights
vested in the Scotch Burghs, which, was instituted for their
good. The existing evil consisted in the abuses of that system
by the mismanagers of the affairs of the different Burghs.
Mr. MAXWELL argried• against the system. He considered
its'origin as being arevolntion, though made by a King. Its
first institution was the act of a weak King, advised by an'im-
becile set of counsellors. -He concurred in that part. of the Bill
which imposed fine in cases of-corrupt practices in tlectiohs.
The House then. went into a Committee.
The Bill was read paragraph by paragraph, and several
verbal7aMendments were agreed to.
A long discussion took place upon a Clause, giving the-Court
of Exchequer in Scotland jurisdiction over the pecuniary penal-
ties created by the Bill.
Mr. J. P. GRANT;then moved as an amendment, •a Clause
to regulate the Auditing of the Corporate Accounts.
Upon the question for receiving this Clause, the House
divided, when there appeared—
For the Clause s - 53
Against it - - - - - 35
Majority - - - —l3.
A number of Clauses were then agreed to, with verbal amends
ments proposed by different lion. Members.
A division ensued upon the question of agreeing to a clause
introduced by Mr. P. GRANT, to prevent.the Bill having any
effect on the Head Courts.
The Nunibers were-
- For the Clause • • - -13
• . Against it - - -•-- 71
- Majority against the Clause -
'The House having resumed, the Report was received, and
ordered to be taken into further consideration on Thursday.-
Mr. KENNEDY expressed a hope that the Scotch Juries
'Bill might corny on for discussion on Thursday. The 'Corn
Bill stood in 'the way.
Mr. R.OBINSON said he would bring on the Corn Bill on
Wednesday.
Mr. HOBHOUSE fixed his motion, which stood for Wed-
nesday, to the 3d of July. . .
Mr. BROUGHAM postponed his motion on the influence
of the Crown, from Thursday to Monday. - -
The third reading of the Scotch Juries Bill was then Ordered
for Thursday.
31r. HUME said he had deferred a motion on the subject of
the expencea of the Coronation, in the hope that the Chancellor
of the`Exchegtur would -make some communication to thelloo e.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was •
not his intention to make any • motion on the subject this year.
The Right Hon. Gentleman also gave notice, that on Friday
se'nnight he should open the-Budget.
The Army and Navy Pensions Bill was read the third time
and passed. •
On the motion of the CITANCELT.OR, of the EXCHEQUER,
the House went into a Committee on the Exchequer Bills'
Bill for Public Works in England and Ireland. The Right"
Hon. Gentleman stated that out of 2,000,0001, to be granted,
it was proposed to give 400,0001. to be applied to the employ-
ment of the poor in Ireland. Tile grant of 2,000,0001. having
been voted, thp.House resumed, and the Report was ordered
to be received to-morrow. •. ,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL brought -in a Bill for Re-
gulating the Sittings of Courts of Justice in Term time, which
he moved should be read a first time.
Mr. CREEVEY objected to the motion on account of the
thinness of the House, there being but nine Members present;
The Hon. Member threatener', if the measure were persisted in,'
to count the House. .
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, then consented "to post-
pone thefirst reading to this day. -
The other Orders' were then disposed of.—Adjourned at a .
QUARTER-PAST ONE O'CLOCK. • "