The Sun.
London, England, 1807-01-17 00:00:00

ARMY ESTIMATES.

Mr. JOIIIVSPONE moved, that the Estimates
of theArMy ServiCeS' for -the year 1.807 be printed
He said that he could not reconcile it to the, duty he
owed his Constituents and the empire if he voted
away indifferently such extraordinary sums, without
knowing in what manner they were particularly to

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reritired. His„public dit,,,sbould at al lip-,tel . be.
ii. ittelitri a most..; one ; .bUt hi th Jai-dent
crisfs.;:.-calling so rOudly for pr4lcal econ ly, this
duty, was indeed an important on,*. It mig 'be ob-
. .
ithed, that fr- was not usual to-print the Estimates,
but the Abstrads ; he could only say, that certainly
it was hot unprecedented,- as they had been print-
ed within-the- last two years ; besides that; in the
.present instan, the grants of money comprised in
them so much Extraordinaries,lhat it was extreinely
difficult, if not impossible, to judge of them, ex
-cept in detail, and this'waS in itself a reason sutE.-.1
cient to
,beir him out in his present Motion. The.
Hon. Member, in concluding, took occasion to al-
lude again to what he thought an imprudent negli-
genc'e on the part of . the Board Of Ordnance relative
to the transmission of powder froth thiS Country to
the Island ofCeylon.
Tile SECRETARY at IVIR hoped that the Hon.
Gentleman wound. content himself ,with what the,
-House thought sufficient upon the last year, that of
ptinting the Abstrad ; this,: he should conceive,
would be adequate for' the purposes of all necessary
information, as the, Estimates would be left upon'.,
the table, to which the Members could at all times
refer; he could not: see the use of printidg them;
but it was obvious.that it would certainly be produc-
tive of trouble, delay, and expence; besides,. there:
might be, other objeations of which he was not int-
mediately aWare. A Noble Lord upon the other •
side(LordCaStlereagh) had admitted, upon. a former
night, .the imprepriety•of disclosing so authentically
to the Enemy inforManon that it-might be more ex-
pedient ta keep from:them: . . --: . .

- Mr. Cdaft. AFT felt niseihi f. 'called upon .to say
,a few words in answer to the very strong attack made
by the Hon. Mover upon :the. Board with which
he had 'the honour to .be conne&ed. With reVe4
to the Island of Ceylon, he had to state that to com-
pliance with the requisition of the Commanding Oth-
cer there, a large, equipment of stores and equipage,
together With a•certainsupply of pawder,; was sent}'
out. It was further required, that the same supply
of powder be continued annually.- This, however,
was
,not -complied with, as .for the future measuresi.
will be taken to supply the Island with powder from
the East Indies. He appealed to the House, if .it •
would haVe been desirable in the Board to have re- ,
je&ed this requisition ' for powder, when wtlit
mained in the Island was incapable of service, and
at a time too that would have risqued ;the security
of the Island, As to the Hon. Gentleman's .Mo-
tion, he should not now oppose it, as he, himself had
been instrumental in. carrying. a similar .one into
die& two years, back.- • •

• Mr. SPURGES BOURNE thought it impossible
1 for each Member to have recourse to all the Pa-
pers before the Army Estimates were submitted to
that House, unless they were printed—as, to the
ob-
jeCtion a its giving to the Enemy an authentic ac-
count of our forces, lie thought that this.objeelion
applied with greaterfowe to the printing of the Ab-
, strati, 'and that had been ordered' by the House with-
out a single objetaion ; besid,es, the. :Estimates, had
before beep printed, and he did not -remember any
alarming consequences to have 'arisen from printing
of them, 'nor did he remember that ..atiy Suds was
then apprehended by Gentlemen- npon..the other
side, though now change of side had produced in
them change of sentiment, as te,.either wirtting or
producing Papers.
4rd'I'EMPLE thought -it an indireCt attempt
to put off ihe.Debateupon' the Army Estimates.
Mr. ROSE aroued,, that as the Papers in:question
• ta might be printed in -two days, such trifling delay,
Could- not interfere' Witsli the time tixedior consider-
ing the Arinv Estiniatd!i:
Lord.HOllziCk . said, that, in. answer to what
had fallen from the 'other side, he felt oimself'pre-
pared to resist any taunts: that should be levelled-at
the situation he had slie,honotn
.to-O, or the prin-
ciples it should ever be' his pride' to emouse ; nor
was he actin g. inconsistently with 'itich:prineVes,:
when he opposed a measure which he- trad funurlY:
supported, becauSe that nteas-ure "was no longZr
accompanied' with those circumstances had
claimed - and:, received his orsginai support.—'
When two :years ago 'he - voted for the' print-
„..
ing of 'the .-'4l.rrny -Estimates, new military plans
of great and ' extensive' importance •were suggested
to the attention of that House,. 'and called for its
most serious ; 'as a prOof, that peculiar.
cirCunistanCes are cOenSidered necessary to warrant a
Motion of, this kind, last year none such occurred,
and no Estimates were printed..,. The House too
was in full possession of every. necessary informa-
tion, .and even if it was not,.'painting the Estimates
within verY, 'limited" a time would but, inade-'
quately serve to 'answer such a pui pose.
Mr. PERClKAL,cow,ptulatecl. the House and
the Country that the LOrd 'had is this case, as:
in many others', acted upon very ditfeient,principles,
from what he did on the Opposition side of the
.-House;• 'He was' extremely glad to find it so, and
it would aff6rd," great, satisfaction.. to the Coun-
`try. r.ehe tion4n.rable' Geptleinan oven the way
(Cslcraft) had at least aaed, consistently in: this bu-
siness, by following the precedent which he himself
had furnished two years ago. • This was a 'precedent
of their own. Now ,what ryas
.the precedent
against printing the Estimates? Why, that theywere
not' printed last year. But was that a precedent of
his (Mr. Percival) .and his friends.? No. An Hon,
General, not now in the House, had, moved fol.
the printing of the Estimatest 'p.m did not Succeed;
—But the Noble Lord saidi,that ,there were new
measures proposed the yeavehefore last, on which
the. Estimates might 'bear materhillY. And were
there not new measures,..tilen tiro proposed ? Ana
was not 'this statedfas. a ground for the printing of
the Estirliateo' 'But they had then refused to act
cede to this, andtheir own precedent of last.year
novi set up as a reason for refusing to allow the '
printing Of the'Etimptes at this time.-11 it were
understood that the printing of these Papers.could
give any information of importance to the enemy,
was, not a man in the House 'who would fora
moment think of acceding to the I,4lotion. The Riglit
Hon. Gentleman on the other side (the Secretary. 'At
War),. When it *as pot to biro, said, that he did not
believe the Abstraa would convey .as much informa-
tion to the enemy as the details. But if the details
would convey more information to the enemy, the
Rt. Hon-Gentleman would, no doubt,from his means
of information, and the obligation upon him to attend
minutely to this business, have been fully acquaint-
ed with the subject. The inference was, therefore,
that the Abstract would afford no less • information

objeelion to the Motion was that which was dirt.- _
Out by one Noble Lord (Temple) and taken up
another (Howick). This was the delay which wot
be occasioned in case it was agreed to, in the discus--
-sion of the Estimates. Now, it was possible that the
Papers could not be printed before Tuesday or Wed-
nesday. The discussion then must be delayed till
Thursday or Friday. But if the objeet was impor-
tant in itself, could the delay of two day be urged
as an objection ? A Noble Lord (Temple) said,.tfv4
it was delay that was the'real object in this Motion.'.:,
and that it would ' have .'been 'More manly. to have:
avowed the objeet at once, than to have endeao,-
voUred .to come at it in this indire& way, Now,
the objeet had really been to delay the discussion,
'could any man believe that it would have been worth
while to have secured a delay of two days, which
was the utmost which could result from this Mo-
tion ? If, indeed, there was any point of special
importance, to which it might be proper to call the
particular attention of the House, and if on diat
account a fuller attendance should be desira6lo4
undoubtedly they would then have moved for if
delay ; but it would. be a delay for a. fortnight, ok
length of time that,might answer the purpose. But
nothing could be gained by a delay of two days. lie
could scarcely believe that the Noble,Lords were se-.
rious when.they objeCted on suchigronnds as thee,
and therefore he supposed the motion would ‘villing
ly be agreed to.
• Lord 1101PIcK would scarely have 'thought it
necessary to say any more upon this subject, had -it
not, been for one -or two points in the 'Learned
Gentleman's speech,, which he could not p.as.S.over
without saying a few words
_by way -of explanation.
The Learned Gentleman .had said that he (Howick)
had abandoned the principles:;6ii which he had acted'
while-on the other side of the House. He ought to
have known that.a different line of condaa, under
'ditferent circumstances, did not necessarily` imply a
change of principle. He challenged the Learned
Gentleman to shew that he on this or any other occa-
sion had manifested theleast inclination to change hit
principles. 'What iie had stated.was, that he appre-
hended the cases were different, and that therefore A
different line :of concin& was prone*. , lie would do
his ‘ctu-ty, and from that he would certainly not be
deterred by any taunts thrown out by the Gentlemen
on the other side. In the case of the year before
last, there was a necessity for having, the Papers
printed, 'because the Estimates bore materially upaq
points which it was (Vaned essential to discuss Par-
ticularly. In the instance pf the last year, no such
ground existed, and, in filet, the 'Estimates were
voted before the motion for printing was made, if he
recolleoted right. If he had adopted a different line
of conduct, -therefore, it was not from an•alteration
of principles, abut from an alteration of ciro,un•
stances. •

- Mr. PERCIVAL observed, that if he had aattiai.
alterationly adverted toa changeole Lord's of principles,
lineprincip of insteadcles,onctu
oci)!
bGaa
would cheerfully submit to' that corredion. But if
the Noble Lord'had opposed the Motion, with tbo:
qualification of his opposition which he now stated,;
in that case, he (Mr. Percival) could only say, thiir
he had not rightly understood him.
. Mr. NONTdGUE supported the Motion.
large 'expensive establishmer:t,sabwleertehe.Hceosusrsaer,y2ooo
observed, and if in such cases obje&ions `were
td. Motions which went to
easily -to examine. --the Vlb1;(7 Expeuditure.J.
pi'ecedent'Wotild be' foraited, which Watild render it
impossible for the -.lVletnbers 'of the House to do their
duty by their Constituents. The facility, there-
fore, which would be afforded to them in doing
their duty:- would more than counter-Ilalgncer ant
expence that might be incurred by printing these
pers. The expence of printing skit: Papers might
`well be saved by eti4notny in inany'other respeCie•
For instance, if the powder sent to Ceylon from th
Coutitiy bad been purchased al Madras,, we woa d
have had a' savina- Which hate far beyond
any expence thatcould inplirred by printing tho
Estiiiiites now. befofe the House. He saw no goal
around ot objeaion -to the Motion. ; 7

Mr: BIDDULFH thought it incurribent upal
him to say a few ~words., as be had, seconded
Motion. He considered economy-in the•public ex'
penditure 'of so 'much importance, that he would
Ittioavaen,y thing ,been the last 11,an haVe given hisconntenan *
that woidd be attended with expense,
had he notibeen satisfied that this was :one of those
cases where the-,saving of a • few pounds might lead
to .the loss of many-thriusaUds,' It, v.as absolutely
necessary that everyifaeilityl should be allowed 10
Geßlemeti in
_inquiring intothe'Publi&Expendittire•
This, at the present moment, was the most importo,
ant of duties. He hims,elf also 'wished to say some.-
on the subjeta of these Estimates, but it wall
Utterly impossible for him to make himself complete"
ly master of the unless he was allowed to take the
Papers home with him. But this he. could not (-10
unless they were printed, for in their present state
they must lie on the table till they came to- be dim
Cussed. aeicould not do his duty with,satiSfaoi4)*o
-himself, therefore, unless. the !,Papers 'were piiioteii,
by which means he could have' a-:copy
him. This was the reason why he had sei..iiiiiol,ltllo
Motion. As to the question of the Po.kt',7der-iontio
Ceylon, he thought the Board of Ordnance!coula
not possibly have_iefused, under such a requ'isitipo-
But he lipped that in future the Supply wpnif bC
sent from It the Board chose to2iiiqulreirit°
the matter),they, would,,get infdtmation.in. London'
that the Indian Powder was not only not worse
Our's,' but 'that it'WaS even better. :• •
Mr. CALCRAFT observed that an Honourably
Gentleman over the way
,(Mr.. Montague), seem?ta
to suppose that it,waS alWays to be the system to
send out powder to Ceylon from this Country, who'
be; (Mr. ,Caleraft) had eXpressly stated that it isOls
intended in future to send it from India..
MONE4GUE stated that that-very possibli
,
might have" lx-en systeiu; had it not,been for tbdi
discussions that had arienupon the .
Mr. '''.ziit'SlTT.7l:2?7' observed, that When GO;
► tlemeu proposed a delay of two ur three days, the/
did not seem to understand the course of the Trey
sury. A million of money would be due on Fridald
next, and-it was necessary to have the Vote pass'
before that time.

. Mr. NJ T 117 E N,_ said, that if any itiforrnaii°L
hijutrious to the Country could be conveyed to
en!.:my by printing these Pa:,;rs, he would 1.0*,!
opposed the Motion. But the printing of the al',
dance Estimates had. led him to believe that
,1;-.•
rhieirriar cnrt r•rml,l

frjltn Printing the Army Estitnates, The printing of
the Ordnance Estimates had been advantageous,
Inasmuch as it had led to -an investigation, the
result of which, in his opinion, 'had done great
honour 'to the. Ordnance Board. When he said
6®, he begged it to' he understood that he had no
Particular connexion with any Member of it. -The
ground on which he would vote for printing. 'these
stimates was, that it was impossible for every
Alember to read them at the table before Wednes-
dV, even Supposing that they had_ begunlroln the
tune of esenting them. No man could contend
that the Houser uld be full infoirned asio the con-
tents of the Papers;' unlesS they' were printed.' But
it Was presumed that all vv 16 came. to this'Hoose to
give votes, were in full possession of the nature and
merits of 'the case. Whether or not"hey could be
Printed so as to afford SUffi'cient 'time 'for.theflonse
tclbeprepared to discOia them oh Wednesday he
t°old not say, but he was Satigliedlbatihe.atteMpt -
°ugllt to be made.'
..Szr ROBERT WILLIAMS obseivtti,.that it.ap-
Peared that there must 'be a Considerable cliff4rence
„Between the Abstra& and" tlie''details,*.as-a Nettle
Lord (Castlereagh) who had an opportunity of being
veil informed on the subject, had:only'tobved for.
Printing the AbstraCt.' If, therefore, the printing of
the details would afford any..iibpditant information
to the Enemy, most certainly it ought to be-op-pcy.2.ed:
Ile wished to krrow from the' Noble- 2tord'upon -
\that ground it was that he moved fox printing the
Abstract only -
An Honourable Gentleman, whose name AA'. could
t learn,
.said,. that he would vote for printing the
ails, unless - the Abstra& ebritained'• all that was-
. 4eeessary to eriale the HOuse to form a proper opi-
ili°ll' on the subje,a.
Lord CASPLEREAGI-I, in- reply to. the Hon.
,Barnet who had appealed to him, observed, that- he
'lad not moved for printing the'AbStrael frOm any-
idea that it was a 'safer 'Paper, for the. Abstrad
conveyed completely tbe principal points.' -It stat-
ed the amount of the force at home, in the
rlantations, and in the EaSt Indies, separately;
..
rapers
this. was the only \information from these
rapers that could be of use to the 'Enemy, if.
flie information could be of use. to them at all. The
gjound on which he had nioved for the printing or
the Abstra& only was, that it contained all the in-
formation which .he himself wanted with a view to
kale paa..ticillar Points*. • •
The SECRETARY at WAR, in explanation,
Zd, that Gentlemen seethed to have Understood'
n to haVe asierted, th-at these Papers would con-
veY information to the enemy. Undoubtedly„even
the discussiOn of them --woold'tbnvey infOrrnatiori to
the enemy, as discossions' Were more open 'her' ifli.in'
4.1 other Gov,Ornnients,... `Pile only questin •then
-as'----how the 'House' could- r) its duty withoUt be-
tVing, to the enemy those particulars that did. not
tecessarily-,cOnae into 'discussion ? ..T.pon 'this (Ines-
lion' there might be different opinions. The Muse
I.c.ould ri3Colled iliat.he had spoken .With trierelliinbt
On - the - subje6l-.., ..T,he. Noble LOrd (Ca,:qere4ll)'
thonglit, Abitr.a& sOkijient-th'er wisi-Lid-i'fai.'
inure detailed' in(otmation.—[The Right Hon. Se-
cretary was 'proceeding ladher when he was 'called.
to.'order,] , _._ - - -
Mr. JOHNSTONE Would 'not have trespassed
frier On the_ tirne.of the. House, had it not been
'iviin tli a view to, do. justice, to, himself in repelling-the
s
lnuations (dna Noble Lord, wilo-had.hiFAed that
o
be
,
said one, thing., while he m ~ eant.another:- ~ - Ilk'
Iza)eft was not 'to occasion tlell-; but t::exaene
ti'llutely those Papers. He would" have no ohji.o-. '
,4n to grant some Money. on account, v. nt, if it
, as
Secre-
tary immediately, a had been said by the Sicre-
t"ny of the Treasury... Brit- hiS objeatwas, from a
:areftil examination of the:.contents. of the papers, '0
ee• whether there was not TOOM.
for reform in the
tt
atxPendisure. The first zn-g-utn-rit of the `Secretary •
a`,.V-ar akas futile, and his second was not better.
hlt was his objection ?_ Why.); that these Papers
. %lid convey iniorimition to the enemy. Of ‘4iat i
oc''.4d they convey information ? Of the strength of
~...111" force--a thing .that %% as 'universally known, and" '
.4.1i,0 , . .. , -
40 1. be, earned from the monthly pitblicitions.— '
th" the corps here mentionedde,•crihed as of
,east
sanie strength, but there was a dideience of at
, kit. fifty thousand men ,between that 'and their
ioe'll strength. ' Twenty iegimentS of - 'cavalry,
Ivt' instance, were described .as consisting of up=
ards of 900 men. each. Delay was nOt his `object.
Of' motive was, if possible, to enforce chose planS
), e,ohomy which the Geitilemen on the other Side
'sa, I made such a bluster about while in Opposition.
__tleir condo& might not perhaps come td be disenssed
'vvn the present occasion. But other Opportunities
11°111d occur, when it Wonlif appear that they lial '
talked
attended to that economy about which they had
e 'ked so much, but that they had grunted 'new and
,xattrayagant salaries to themselves. On, the priaci-
L. Points in these Papers there could not in
,the
tein'esent circumstances be much swing : but a great
_a' a 1 of saving niight be made. in many cohtindent
"'ititiculars. It was- to the
,ExtraordioarieS of the
i.,„IMY that he wished to turn his attention 'in a
rerticular Manner. Oil that point. he Wanted to
toe fly informed, and
that was:, the 'reason why
Prititeedsired., the whole of these Papers to be
Z.Ord ' • ,
at d HO WICK observed,. that he now under-
no from the Hon. Gentleman, that be Wished not
formed
Y, but that all he wanted was to be fully in-
, . on this subject, in order to see whether Mi-
ters had aeled up to those principles of economy
they they had formerly professed, .and whether .
. _
Shewn an inclination - to redeem their
PledYgebsadto the Public. If that was the Mound
Zowhich the Honourable Gentleman rested his
0... tam, he would be inclined to withdraw his
suPrpeossition. , He ' was anxious that all the inea-
a,,, of the Administration should be carefully
and minutely examined and canvassed'. The
t_.,
the
Gentleman had said that they had .wast-
Lle, public money, and granted new and exorbi-
tant
.salaries to themselves. He wished that their
that .
.should be sifted to the bottom, and hoped,
tn
since these charges had been preferred they
Vould be d the ~..,_t.speedily brought forward, that the House -j
In oi..`-, their validity.
might have an opportonity of jodg-
Itood
trhnati
tvhalidity. Now, if it should be under-
ahould not la e discussion of the Army Estitnates -'
edelayed, though the Papers should
Aot be printed m time, he had no objection to ‘N ith-
tr "a* his
.ipposition with this reservation. 'Lie
-,oble Lord on the other 'side (Castlereagh) had said
tit the
would
ilbstraa answer his purpose; If more 4

was wanted, it was unfortunate that the Motion
.had not been made sooner. The Honourable Gen-;
Ileman had given no notice of it, and he Was not
prepared no for the danger of communicating in-
formation to the enemy might be irreased by print-
ing the whole.%of the Papers. If, therefore, .the
Honourable Gentleman would postpone his Motion
till to-morrow, an opportunity would be afforded of
comparing the Papers. ' (The Secretary at War
here mentioned to him, that the only .difference- was
in the greater particularity of the details.) . His
Honourable Friend. had informed him, that there
.was no Material difference, and therefore' he would
agree to the Motion, it being understood that there
should be no delay of the discussion, for to that he
could not consent.

Mr. JOHNSTONE observed that he would not op-
pose the vote of such a, sum as might be immediately
wanted, and this be conceived would remove all in-
convenience.

Mr. PERCIVAL said, .. that every one" would
allow that it was necessary to see these Papers in the
mean time, in order to be enabled to enter upon,a
discussion with respeet to the contents: But if the
vote should be passed on Wednesday, it must be
done without any one.liaving an opportunity of ex-
amining the Papers itt the mean time, supposing
they should be now sent to the Printer, and could
not be finished' before the proposed time of discus-
sion: T But what would do away. all these difficulties
would be to vote A considerable sum on. Wednesday„
on account, if the Papers shotild not be printed ie-
fore that time;

L-ord.HOITICK - asked why the':moticn bad not
been made sooner, andwhy'they now took occasion
to press it at this late period ? Full tiimi. had been
. given for any gucliMotion, Mu& more than, to his
knowledge, ,had been given ,in some former years.
The only ground on which be.couid agree to . the
Motion-wa-s, that it might afford an opportunityof
sitting the condnol. of -Ministers, and bringinc' the
charges against the to a discussion, if the
m
Hon..
Gentleman should-tind any reason, to prefer them.
He could not consent to delay the. vote..
••
ii r. WHITBREAD observed,that it was his in,
tention at firstto have supported the motion, for he
was satisfied that 'Paperscould convey no ma,-
terial information to the enemy. But he congra-
tulated- -the .House and the Country on the great
change which had taken place in the c,onduCt ofthe
Learned Gentleman. opliosite (Mr: PerCival), who
was so ready with his charges of changing against
others• The' House and the Country: must. be
• •
pecnliarly happy to find, that he who had for=
merly objected to all information on these 'points,
• was now suddenly become so zealous an anvOcate
for information. The Learned(;eutlenian 'certainly
wished for delay. NoW, if the Papers were to be
printed with-a view, to, the ulterior purpose of the
Hon. Mover; he would certainly, not 'objet to the
• motion. But he would- vote against printing them,
unless it was tuiiy understood that, there was to be
no delay of thy vbte.
PintolvAL- said, that' his only objet :had been
tol-obviateditheulties. •
Lord'Howt-cx. thought that the best course would
be for'the Hon: Gentleman to withdrw his IVlotion
for the present, and leave the Papers on the table
tiathe vote was passed; atter which he might have
the Papers printed, with a view to the ulterior ob-
► jest for winch he wanted them.
- Mr. JOHitISTONE -wished to knoW from '
Speaker; how tar it Was reasonable to sulipose that
the Papers might be:prinied ,before Wectrieday.
Si.E,Aßini-observed, that:Where there were
•
a great many figures, it .:1111pOssible' eyed for,
tho,e most conversant with the:business to calculate
e%ael ly.
• Lord H. PETTY observed, that the sane' rea-
son (the multnuu o(tht figures) which rendered
it dirlicuit to pri,lt PapeTs in a short time, also
tendered it difficult to examine them minutely. It
Would be better to leave the Papers on the table iii
the Mean time. 'He theretdre suggested, whe-
ther the object=of toe' Honourable Gentleman, for
•lie was anxious that the- minutest inquiries should
take place into all the branche; of the 'public.xx-
penthiore, would not be 4nswered by leaving the
Papers in the 'Mean time,' and moving to. have theni.
printed afterwards ? '
Mr. FULLER hoped that the Abstraa would at all
events be printed in the mean time. •
Mi. JOHNSTONE then withdrew his Motion.
. . VOLUNTEERS.
•
. Lord H. PETTY moved for a Return of the Effec-
, • five- Strength of the Volunteers on the Ist • of Jan.
1805..—Agreed

NEWRY ELECTION,
Sir JOHN _NEWPORT 0-esented a Petition frOnt
the Right Honourah4e Isaac Corry, praying 64.
time for entering into the Recognizance. might be
:enlarged.- The ground -was, the, distanee.
which the sureties had to come, and the possible
delay from ,adverse winds. He moved, .That the
time be enlarged for three weeks. The discussion
upori` this Motion was postponed till' Tuesday.

DUBLIN i'—EC.TION.
Mr. STURGES BOURNE, presented 3 Petition from.
Mr. John Hawkins, praying for an enlatzetnent of
the time for entering into the Recognizance with
respeato the Peiition against The Return of Mr.
Grattan. .The ground was, that the Petitioner could
not. find Mr. Grattan in order to serve the notice
within the limited time. He moved, That the time
be enlarged to the sth of Feb.—The discussion 'was
postponed till Tuesday.,
.. The Inspetor. of Convictspresented' a Report;
which was ordered to lie on the table.

The Repon of the Indemnity Bill was-considered,
the Amendments agreed to, mid the Bill ordered
to be read ,a third time on Tuesday.—Adjourned till
'Tuesday.