The Sun.
London, England, 1838-10-12 00:00:00

rxr,• ESQ.

Resolved--That this meeting having considered the
Report of the Commissioners appointed by her Majesty
to inquire into the manner in which railway communica-
tion can be most advantageously promoted in Ireland, con-
cur in the opinion expressed in other parts of the country,
that the information contained in that very valuable docu-
ment is well calculated to lead to just conclusions as to the
faciities existing in Ireland for the establishment of railway
co.nmunications.

.hived by JOHN GREENE, Esq. ; seconded by DANIEL
MANSERGH, q.:—
Itlt.solved—Vilt this meeting do fully approve of the
opinion expressed by the Commissioners, that the cir-
cumstances in which Ireland is placed, with reference to
the amount of capital disposable for enterprises of that
nature, are not favourable to the establiihtn, nt of loval
and separate lines of railway, executed and conducted by
private companie, ; and that the interests of the courrr,
would be promoted much more effectu illy by a cg.ne al
sstein of railway intercourse, embracing within its in-
fluence the most populous and wealthy districts, and carried
into eff!et under the im:nediate superintendence and con-
trout of her Alajesty's Government.
Moved by CHARLES SCULLY, Esq. ; seconded by JAMES

D. SCULLY, F.,q.
Resolved—That petitions conformable to the above re-
solutions be prepared, addressed to the Lords of hut. Ma-
jesty's Treasury, and to the two Houses of Parliament,
praying them to give their sanction to the system of rail-
ways proposed by the Commissioners ; and that the gen-
tlemen composing this meeting do hereby pledge them-
sel% es to afford to her Majesty's Government all the as-
sistance in their power, in order to secure the successful
accomplishment of the line of railway proposed to pass
through the districts in and near which they reside.
A form of petition having then been read and agreed to,
it Was

Moved by DANIEI. JOSEPH MURPHY, Esq. ; seconded

by JAMES HESEY, E-q., and - -
Resolved—That the petition nnw read be adopted, and
that Lord Lismtire be
requested to pr:?sent it to the House
and
dLtohradts,Ra.ndo. LordcavD:ttnally be requested to support it
the House of Commons,Esq
.a'atbntedh Nierequesteds,t, tosh
Shell
e sue
all , it
andt
Stock to support it, and that o
pre-
sent it to the Lords of the 'Treasury.
R. be requested to s.
R. OTWAY CAVE, Chairman.
ROBERT USHER, Secretary.
Mr. Cave having left the chair,
ealtil'llanksli oli
meetingnddi
g.
Murphy,
Esq., having been called ere
were given to Mr. Otway Cave for his impartial the a
pitied conduct in the chair.
Mr. CAVE, in returning thanks, said that he felt ex-
tremely obl:ged to the meeting for their kindeess towards
hint—that lie fully approved of their resolutions and the
petition,
and that he wou:d feel great pleasure in present-
ing the latter to the House of Commons, as well as to the

Lords of her .N.l,6Q.sty's Treasury, and that he would sup-
port them cordially, being convinced that the great enter-
p.ise proposed by her Majesty's Commissioners was worthy
of the support of every man vim felt an interest. in the wel-
fare if Ireland.—(Loud and long continued cheering.)
The meeting was then dissolved.

The Times of this morning is most lavish of its en-
comiums on the Conservative faction, which it stoutly
declares is impregnated with the true spirit of Reform.
" The Conservatives "—says the Salinoneus, or Mock-
Thunderer of Printing-house-square —" acknowledge
that no scheme of Government is prefect ; that time
works an unavoidable decay in the most skilful me-
chanism invented for the protection of liberty, as well
as for the maintenance of law ; and where such de-
generacy can be shown to exist, they are ready
and anxious to repair it." We readily con-
cede to our Contemporary that the Conservatives
are always " ready and anxious" to repair
any imperfections in Government, when they " can be
shown to exist ;" but the misfortune is, that they never
are shown to exist. The Tortes cannot see an im -
perfection, even under their very nose, and of course
cannot be expected to repair what they cannot
see. They are high gravel-blind to all but the
incomparable excellencies of " our free and glorious
Constitution in Church and State." Reason with
them on this matter, and you will find them impervious
as the nether mill-stone to all conviction. Tell them
that time has engendered defects in the august edifice
of the Constitution ; that its rafters are not quite
so strong as they ought to be ; and that, though the
foundation is sound, some portions of the superstruc-
ture are giving way ;—talk to the Conservatives in this
style, and they will te,l yoe in reply, that you were
never more mistaken in your life, for that the build-
ing is in the best possible condition ; and that
what you, in your ignorance, mistake for defects, are
in reality, the greatest possible recommendations. A
Tory see imperfections in the Constitution, indeed !
The bare idea of such a thing is preposterous. The
Times goes on to observe that there " would be more
of the spirit both of true Reform and statesmanlike
pol►cy in any one week of Sir ROBERT PEEL'S admi-
nistration, than in a century under Lord JoHN RUS-
SELL." Bravo, Thunderer ! This is going the whole
Tory hog with a vengeance. So, the author of the
Tamwerth Manifesto would do more for Reform—
were he allowed the opportunity—than even the
author of the Reform Bill ! lie who opposed fur
years and years the repeal of the Test Acts—Catholic
Emancipation—the East Retford Disfranchisement
Bill—and, in fact, every measure that had improve-
ment for its aim and end, would meet the wishes of
the people with more readiness, than he who was
one of the staunchest advocates in Puliament of all
these libaral and enlightened Reforms ? If Sir
ROBERT PEEL be really so sincere in his wish for
Reform as our Contemporary would imply, why did
he not show his sincerity during the period of his
Administration ? Has his desire for improvement
only sprung into existence since then ? If so, it is
worth nothing. But the plain truth is, the. Right Hon.
B:,.ronet spoke out, as he really felt, in the Tam-
worth Manifesto—a Stare document than which no-
thing more vague, vacillating, or unintelligible, was
ever to be found, even in a King's speech during the
palmy days of Toryism.

We have received the whole of the Paris Journals
of Wednesday. Their contents are of no political
importance. With respect to the Swiss gut stion, the
Journal des Debats says—" 'We consider the quarrel
as terminwed by the Reply of the Swiss Directory,
little explicit as it may ba on the question of Prince
Louts, but still very fitting in its form, as well as
conciliatory and pacific in its spirit." The ttrmina.-
tion of the quarrel is wet worthy of its commence-
ment—that is to say, ai mortifying to the French
Cabinet as so preposterous a proceeding deserved to
be. The question of Electoral Reform attracts a
considerable degree of notice in the political circles of
the French metropok. Upon this subject the Gazette
de France, an ultra-Royalist Paper, says—" One
must be blind not to perceive that France is on the
eve of a violent commotion, unless it be averted by
au Electoral Reform, which may stop the progressive
abuses of monopoly and corruption." Nothing can
be truer than this, notwithstanding the suspiciofi which
attaches to all political suggestions from so suspicious
a quarter.
The following article on the subject of the aggressive
policy of Russ a in the East, is well worthy
of «eneral
notice. We cannot reciprocate the perfect confidence
of the Debats in the statulity of our Eastern empire,
unless we do something more than remain passive
spectatns of the development of the designs of the

Autocrat :

For some time past. Rarope has been occupied with the
gigantic projects of Ru4a, and her ardent de ire to posse's
herself of the English po,sessons in India.
In fact, her system of war against the Circassians, her
progress towards the fronfi?r of Pers'a, have given reason
to.think.that such might lie the designs of tbar. Power.
If one cats an eye on the map—if one xneasorr, s the
immense distance wtiich separates the two countries, one
may then be convinced that the execution of such a plan
would not only be surrounded with ditficuhies, but, what is
more, imposslle.

It is oc►ly those who do not hats the country that can
believe for a moment in the success of such an entcrp.•:se•

How is a large army (and it must be a large one) to
traverse such a distance, when one reflects that the space
to pass is, for the greater part, a desert, and without wat, r ;
that the inhabited part is only filled by hordes who could
offer no resources. It would be necessary then to carry
everything with them. No rowels ; the transport of tie
maletiel and prosisions of an army would meet with diffi-
culties of every kind. To establish magazitws is impoisible.
We are no longer at a period when divant expeditions are
m ide with success ; soldim s of antiquity were much
less exigent than those of the present time. Since the changes
made in the art of war armies do not move so easily as in
other times.

But suppose for a moment that a Russian armyfoued
itself transported, as if by enchantment, t . the frontiers of
the British piss: siions iu India ; far from their task being
nceomp!ished, it is then, on the contrary, that the most
serious difficulties would cimmence.
For ages the English nation has been established in In-
dia. Having commenced by merely formicg counters for
her commerce on the coasts of Malabar, Coromandel, end
the borders of the Ganges, she soon pu4ierh her conquests
over the whole extent of the peninsula, and the provinces
south of Ca'cutta.

At present her frontier extends to the north-west to Vic
Gozorat and Rmljapoutany, to the north ant north-iast to
the foot of the mountains of Napo! and Rattan 'These
conquests, long secured by the force of arms, have also been
so by treaties.
The Erg'ish, guided by a wi=e policy, have, like the
Romans, known how to respect the ri 'igloo, the manners
and customs of the country of which they took posse-sion
the treaties have always been religiously maint.,ined, and
the people are more happy under this Goveinment ti. a:,
they were under the Native Princes, vvho treated them in
a very despotic manner.
This wise measure assures to the natives ev- ry
The English do not allow their countrymen to colonise
in
securitylnd i a .
for
the
quiet possessiiin of their territory, and the
English laws protect them against all vexation. [T,ds is a
mistake. Since 1834 colotlisation has been allowed in Bri-
tish India.]
The detente of the country is confided in a groat mea-
sure to the inhabitants, who, formed to military discipline
by Engtish officers, aided by native ()lies, compose an army
of 250,000 men of all arms.
Under the English flag, llindoos, MusselmAns, and
Parias, serve with zeal, devotion, and courage, the Govern-
ment which pays them. They are treated with kindness,
and though the discipline is as severe as with the European
troops, the Indian likes the service ; be is sober, patient,
and brave.
The Indian soldiers have an interest in serving the Go•
vernment well. Every time they quit their homes, they
give up a portion of their pay to ti;,•ir fimilies, which is re-
gularly paid every month by the treasurer of the district,
and the Government to glects nothing to come to the assis-
tance of these families in ease of death or wounds. Pensions
are secured to them.

Independent of these troops the India Company has

many European regiments, which form the anillery cotps,
and three complete regiments of infantry Besides these
the E,gl:sh Government grants a contingent of 30,000
cavalry and infantry. They are paid by the
Company.
these troops lire in the most. perfect harmony, and
notwithstanding the difference of religion and manners, a
collision between them is never hearl of.

The materiel of tiiis-at;y is complete ; the means of
transport do not yield to those of European troops.
Such is the enemy with which the Russians would have
to fight. They wnu!d, doubtless, find an effective re-
sistance. The slightest reverse would be the inevitable
les+ of the invading army. Retreat is impossible.
The climate atom, would be the most effective enemy of
the Russians. Disoase would won thin their ranks. Every
thing would be in f'av( ur of the English, who have again
the immense advantage of speaking the. language of the
country.
_ _

We think it is certain that the different people on the
frontiers would give no aid to the Russians, whom they do
not know, and who could be of no use to them in case of
reverse ; they know that it is their interest not to quarrel
with the English, whose valour and strength they have
long appreciated.
The maritime position of India must also be considered.
Whoever would attack it should have at their disposition a
marine superior to that of the English, and thus insure
the preponderance on these shores. The English know
this so well that they have already taken possession of the
principal port of the Persian Gulf, Bushire, which is at
this moment occupied by troops sent from Bombay.
Without a marine, it would be fully to think of attack-
ing India.

These rebctions are the result of a long stay in the
country, which it is necessary to hive inhabited to ap-
PreelAte all the resources, and to -form a just. idea of the
colossal power of Eoglan,l, of her wise policy and her
execlknt Administration.

We have no accounts worthy of communicating
from Spain. Nothing can he conceived .more deplo-
rable than the present condition of that &stracted
country. • The Gazelle of the 3d instant, announces
the death of General GEORGE HINTER, an Irish
Officer i❑ the QUEEN'S service. He died intestate,
and thirty days are allowed his relatives to send their
cl-ims to the Government.

The Journal des Debats of this morning says, " We have
just received from London, in the original, the Act dated
July 3, 1838, by which the Queen of E-gland grants to
literary productions of all States which shall use reciprocity,
prvilege and prote,•tian in all the possess;oos of the. British
Empire. This decision does honour to the Government of
Queen Victoria ; let us hope that France will not delay
following so noble an example."
No oder counterannding the military movements bad
arrived at Lyons on the 7th, and the marching of the troops
continued.

The Courier de eilire of the 6th announces, as well as
the letters from Geneva, that the French b ittalions are at
Gex and Ferney, having their advanced posts near the
limits of the territory.
The armal of their hattrries of reserve, organised at
Lyons, says this J Aim d, is expected.
Fort L'Ecluse has been furnished with everything neces-
sary for defence, aad provisions to huhd out for a limited
period.—Le Commerce.
The attack of Lumpier by the Carlist troops in Navarre
is spoken of. The heavy artillery, which is at la.igo (in
the line of Zubir;), is to b itter the plan ; 400 peasarts
are clearing the roads, in er.ler to make it passable by the
artillery. Three batta ions of Al tva, detached from the
army of Maroto, protect the ao-kmen. There are troops
at Urroz, four leagues from Lumbier.—Vottatitutiounel.
BaussELs, OCT. 9.—Tile sun of Jerome Napoleon Bo-
miparte is gone to Roehefort, in the Duchy of Luxemburg,
to spend some days. •
Ttte King -will set out for P. anis on Monday.
FRENCH N DS. FA a IN. UCTOllat -JO.
ive ye, Cetur. lOtif. 45C. 5( C. 45c. .
Four pert ents.,
I'me.• per ('ant." Str. loc. re, • •
Rent! . -,e Naples. 11.4,f. 45c. Me. Cc.
comer. Five per Cent.., 10,34 104.
tt, '
13 lgisn Five per Cents., 102.
Belgian Three er eats., ace.
tavuese Loan/ Threw per Cents.
1.0:n.
CIA:HANN% ord
~.I,vinmith, paper, 25f. 121,4 c. • money, Yrsf 4 e
nienths, ',Ai,' 25 32% anon.). t 5 34'
LATENT PRICES.
Five leer etas. PVC 60e.
'fliree Per Cents., s. f. 15e.
Rent/
Romany' 104,
Belgian 1,41 n,
Bel4ian Three per eat. 71f 5Ce
Bellow] Waal, 1,14'1.
Spanish Actives, I y.,',.
tiavtian 1.1114111. 370 f

Brussels and German Papers of the latest dates have
been received this morniwz. We subjoin an' extract :
CONsTANTINOPLE, SEPT. IB,—l haSten to send you the
imp/want intelligence that an offensive and deli•ns,ve
a"ce against Persia bus been concluded between Great
Britain and the Porte. This fact, which requires no com-
ment, will disclose to you at on the state of politics, the
new shape assumed by the relations of the East. You
have now •the whole order of battle before your eyes. ; em
the 'one side. Einrhinil and Turkey,- on the oilier Persia
and 'Prittssia ; 'France wavering between both ; Mehemet
wa:ching and waiting .; Austria obsAiving a .significant
silence. Will the scathe of the approachin4 cuniliet be eon-
fined to Persia ? Will Russia support openly or covertly
the cause of the Sehah ? Or, will diplomatic nego-
ci twins once m ire conquer the storm;? Th. n oral
course of things, the state of the question to be decided,
to he desired, sc:avely permit a doubt of the collision of the
hostile el.iments. Top point in question is th, preponder-
ance of Russian over English influence in Asia ; neither of
the conteniling parties will willingly abandon the field. Or
will diplomacy, which in these later tim,is has been s 3 fer-
tile in expedient, discover for the moment s'ime mole of
arrangement ? It is possible. But in this case what more
c n be attained than a short delay. which in the seqUel must
In all probablity le td to a more tedious anil more sanguinary
relation? The activity of the Porte, the resolution of
.Ruisii; whom hatred to the arrogant vassal in Egypt, and
lilc,•wise the intolerable pressure Of the ruinous Situation in
which he finds' himself, .have led into n-w and iimg,rous
eombinvions, exceeds the opinions hillierto entertained
of both, at h;ast in Constantinople. Toe march of

troops to Asia and to. the Danube. continues. Ordsrs.
are already given to provision and put in a state of
defence the three fortresses Sehounda, Varna, and Rust-
Ichuk ; the workmen are incessantly employed iu the
Arsenal and other military establishments. The precise
period for the formation of the new relations is not tude.,d
determined, but the effects of what has already been dine
can in no case be long before they manifest themselves.
The English. French; and Turkish fleets, under Admirals
St.pford, GAllois, awl Ahmed Feiozi are in the
harbours of Smyrna, Vourla, and the adjacent islan.ls. It
will speedily arp,ar whether the fleets well sea to the
north or the south. Accounts from the camp in Asia
state that General Chrsznowski has arrived there tvith
a suite of several officers. We give this intelligence
without warranting its correctness. Our eerrespoudent
has adruays shown himself to be generally well informed,
though he yva, lately misled into a premature statement of
the commencement of hosti:ities near Bushire. The de-
clarations made at Alexandria, the treaty of commerce
with England conducted at. Constantinople, the demonstra-
tions of the English in the Persian Gulf, the protest against
the attack on 11 rat, and lastly, the march of troops to
Southern Russia, of which we receive accounts front all
quarter-,indicate a state of thinirs,lll,- dove.' eiment of which
may perhaps .appear in Constantinople and Alexaadris more
near at bald, and more threatewng than it really is, se
that premature statements may be accounted for, though
the character of the approaching solution has hitherto been
indicated by our correspondents in both cities, in a manner
which has been fir more confirmed than refuted by sub.e-
nuent events.

MIDDLESEX SESSIONS.
(THIS DAY.)

The COURT was crowded his morning in expectation
that the trial of Joseph Scott, formerly Treasurer of the
Parish of St. James's, Clerkenwell, would be gone into.
The defendant, who surrendered to his bail and recog.
nizances, was charged w:th misdemeanour and fraud. It
m y be recollected, 5001. reward was offered soma time
since for the apprehension of the defendant.
Mr. BODKIN, for the prosecution, stated that on the part
of the pari-h he had no evidence to offer.
The COURT of course dire •ted a verdi t of acquittal.

INSOLVENT
TDHEBOS' COURT.
(IS DATY.)R

(Before Mr. Commissioner BOWEN.)
Robert Parkes. described in his schedule As the clerk to
a 'Manchester warehouseman, was pose.' by Mr. WOOD-
t FFE for a Mr. Archer, And by Mr. THOMAS for Mr.
laan, The insolvent was supported by Mr. COOKE.
The character of this case was rather singular. The in-
solvent way before the Court in May last, when the further
hearing was adjourned, in order to enable the insolvent to
make a new schedule. On that, occasion the debts were
stated at 1.051., but they had now increased to upwards of
.500/. On the last occa.ion the insolvent was strictly ques-
tioned as to c,rta,n articles of j. wt.llery and books. He
&flied that he ha any any jewellery ; but it being discovered
that he had several hozei in prison, the kis wole got from
him ; the boxes were br,kugl,t into Court, and the discovery
of the,r contents threw a completely new light on the ca e.
Books were discovered, and also the duplicate of rings,

which he siiid bidonged to a widow t;) Li• eacq no-
m-we. Upon this the schedule was ordered to be amended.
The insolvent, with r,.speet to the creditor Hill, denied
any knowledge of her be ng married ; she wa, in tie twit
of bu)ing.goods at the warehouse whei-e he was clerk, and
he aiways thought her to be a widow. Her husband had
arrested him, but the insolvent denied that he owed the debt.
Mr. WOODROFFE and Mr. THOMAS contended that the
insolvent was HAW to be remanded, he having pledged
jewellery, which he hid omitted to enter in his schedule.
Mr. CooKE submitted that the insolvent had already
undergone a sufficient term of imprisonment.
Mr. Commissioner BOWEN said the insolvent had shown
a deliberate intention of imposing on the Court, and re-
. minded Lim for a period not exceeding nine mouths, fur
conceAling property and withholding books.