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the Earl of Liverpo3l. Why, they wished to raise 50,000/. a
year ; 5,0001. was to enlighten the Press, 5,0001. to prepare
Petitions to Parliament, and 5,0001. to convert their haughty
neighbours in England. They could not' employ their funds
that way, and the Catholic Body, entrusted with fUnds to
such an amount, ought to be watched with jealousy. With
respect to the application of force, the Eight Hon. Secretary
had too good an opinion of the Roman Catholics of Ireland to
suppose they would give any ground for the employment of
force. His hope was, that leave would be given to bring in the

Sir H. PARNELL explained.
Mr. DENMAN rose amidst cries of adjourn. He was only
anxious to convince the House that the conduct of the Consti-
tutional Association was distinct from that of the Catholic As-
sociation. Did the Constitutional Society meet to redress their
own wrongs ? They thought proper to introduce a series of jobs
which the Attorney-General ought to have done. The Catholic
Association subscribed their money for mutual defence. The
Catholics did not prosecute for political offences.—(Hear !)
They had prosecuted in one instance for a libel on the College
of Maynooth, which was a vindication of their own body. The
Constitutional Association did not prosecute in any but political
cases. The effect of this Bill would be to drive the parties into
secret cabals. The Right Hon. Gentleman had said not one of
the subscribers could sit as a Juror in eases of prosecution,
by the Catholic Association. Right it was so, but who could
find out whether the parties were subscribers The feelings of
a Catholic would never lead to any such disqualifications.—
The Constitutional Society had been looking out for every
miserable libel, while they suffered Vile vilest calumnies
in one journal to escape notice. They had it from the highest
authority of the law, that it was not illegal to form an associa-
tion for the purpose of preventing a violation of the law. There
was a society to prosecute all persons opposing toleration.—
The Methodists as a body had formed an association, and
subscribed funds to protect themselves. Mr. Denman then de-
fended the acts of the Catholic Association. Destroy the effect
by removing the cause of their dissatisfaction. Give them
emancipation. Put all upon the same footing, and there would
no longer be any pretence for this Association. lie denied
that the people of Eri.,,land were opposed to the Catholic claims.
The English Catholics by their forbearance had gained just
nothing. If that 1-louse were as true to itself on the Catholic
Question as they were on the Marriage Act, they would
find that the Noble Person alluded to would yield as he did
on that occusion. Ile then alluded to the recognition of South
America, which he thought a measure of compromise in the
Cabinet. \ Vas it then that the Right lion. Gentleman oppo-
site (Mr. Canning) said, give me but the recognition of South
America, and I will consent to the two Bills.

ill r. CANNING—No, no !—(across the table with great
emphasis.)

DEN3IAN concluded by giving his direct negative to
the motion.

PEEL then, at a quarter past two o'clock, rose and
proposed an adjournment of the debate until to-morrow (this
day), which was carried without a division.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
house adjourned at lIALF-PAsT Two O'CLOCK.