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London, England, 1838-07-30 00:00:00

CARNARVON ADDRESS.

TO THE QUEEN'S MOST EXCELLENT MAJESTY.
MOST GRACIOI'S SOVEREIGN,
In these moments of ithivpisal enthusiasm, when every eye
is turned towards your Majesty, and every heart thrills with
delight, we, the inhabitants of the town of Carnarvon and its
neighbourhood, humbly approach your Royal presence, to lay
at your feet the renewed assurances of our unalterable confi-
dence and affection.
A few days ago it was our privilege to celebrate the volun-
tary and solemn interchange of vows between your Majesty
and your assembled subjects. The capital then gathered all
its beauty and all its chivalry : the most generous sons and
the noblest daughters of the realm poured forth to the august
festival ; and whilst every other part of the empire rang with
shouts of exultation, our own romantic mountains took up the
joyful sound ; and we can assure your Majesty that the people
—that people who never forget that they have been honoured
with your presence, and with the presence of your illustrious
mother among them--were not wanting in the expressions of
their gratitude, and their attachment.
Convinced as we are, that beneath your Majesty's gentle
sway, the laws will be administered in a mild and merciful
spirit, and the balance of justice be held with a firm and un-
trembling hand, we know that your Majesty will make it the
cherished object of your care to protect all classes of your sub-
. jects in the free exercise of their rights, and to shed around
you, on every side, the light of peace and liberty and happi-
nes.; ; so that Britain may still maintain its precedence in
teaching the nations of the earth how to flourish.
Again, most gracious Princess ! we pledge ourselves to
guard your throne with our warmest, our most jealous, most
devoted love. We ask of heaven, in fervent prayer, that a life
so inestimable may be protracted to a distant period ; and
words cannot describe the pleasure with which we dwell upon
the hope that your Majesty's fondest wishes may be more than
realized, and that your name may be written on the page of
history in characters of imperishable glory.
Signed in behalf of a Public Meeting of the Inhabitants,
JOHN MORGAN, Mayor.

MR. BARLOW MOORE AND THE
COAST GUARD.

The investigation into the particulars of this remarkable
case has terminated. The following account comprehends all
the strong features of the evidence :
On Tuesday, the lith of July, Mr. Barlow Moore having
received a letter from Mr. Dowding, Surveyor-General of
Customs, requesting his .attendance at Gravesend, immedi-
ately obeyed the summons. The Court consisted of C.
Dowding, Esq., Surveyor-General, Captain Sparshott, and a
gentleman named Leman, who acted as Secretary. When he
entered the room at the Custom-house, in which the investi-
gation was to take place, three gentlemen_olr. Pigou, who
accompanied him in the yacht when she was fired at, Mr.
Meeson, and Mr. Ritch►e) went in with him, but retired at
the desire of the Court. He was then called upon to make
his statement of the complaint referred to in his memorial,
and he repeated all that has already been before the public,
with some further details, and having been sworn, at the desire
of Captain Tucker, the Superintendent of the Coast Guard,
who, with Lieutenant Parkes, attended and examined him and
all the other witnesses in the course of the inquiry, he went
over the same ground.
Captain Tucker then commenced questioning Mr. Moore
from voluminous memoranda which he held in iris hand. The
object of the numerous questions put by Captain Tucker was
to prove that he had acted with courtesy and forbearance
towards Mr. Moore in the exercise of his duty, and that in the
conversations alluded t0....he had particularly cautioned Mr.
Moore against sailing the yacht below Gravesend until that
gentleman should have taken out fresh papers at the Custom-
house in London ; and he also endeavoured to show that Mr.
Moore had acted in defiance of the caution and advice which
had been given. Mr. Moore's replies aimed at exhibiting the
fact that Captain Tucker had acted towards him most uncour.
tcously, and with a design to entrap him. Captain Tucker
declared at this point of the investigation that he had re-
ceived information against the vessel and against her papers,
as well as against Pleyel, whom Mr. Moore had taken into
his service.
On Wednesday Mr. Moore was examined by Captain
Tucker, who opened with a statement that he had received
information against the vessel for having " secret places."
The examination principally related to the charge of boarding
and rummaging.
Captain Sparshott then read from the Times that part of the
Mansion-house report in which Me. Moore was represented as
having said that he thought he was fired at by Captain Tucker's
orders. Mr. Moore observed " thet that assertion must stand
exactly as it appeared in the paper." Captain Sparshott said,
" We shall show that Captain Tucker was not on the station."
" Then," said Mr. Moore, "on that point we are directly and
irreconcileably at issue."
On Thursday Mr. Moore was again under question as to
the proceedings when the yacht returned to Clitf station, and
was boarded by Lieutenant Parkes and his boat's crew.
On Friday Pleyel, Mr. Moore's man, was examined. The
balls, he said, came close about the vessel when the Coast
Guard galley was within half a mile of her. He heard them
whistle, and would not go aloft to set the top-sail, lest they
should hit him, but went below. Mr. Pigou stooped; the
balls seemed to drop astern of the yacht, and there might
have been thirty or forty, or fifty, or more fired. The Coast
Guard had often come aboard and sometimes alongside, be-
tween the 23d of June and 11th of July; about three shots
struck the water, four or five fathoms from the yacht, and he
heard two or three whistle. The bullets fell on the lee
quarter larboard.
Mr. Pigou, who accompanied Mr. Moore, was next exa-
mined. He stated that he took the helm after breakfast ; he
heard some firing, of which he took no notice, as ho was not
aware from whence it proceeded, and did not think it was in-
tended for the yacht. In a short time Mr. Moore, who was
below, said, as he concluded, in a joke, " How do you find
your hat sit upon your head ? Do you know that sounds very
much like a ball whistling through our rigging ?" The reports
still continued, and witness observed one shot strike the water
near the larboard quarter of the vessel. They then became
aware that the firing was directed at the yacht.
On Saturday the examination of Mr. Pigou was resumed.
The witness stated, in answer to questions put by Lieutenant
Parkes, that the first question the Lieutenant asked in stepping
on board the yacht was for the production of the papers. They
were not produced. The impression on witness's mind was,
that it was in consequence of the informality of the papers
that the seizure would be justified. He was not aware at what
moment Lieutenant Parkes made any allusion to Pleyel, but
before he left the vessel he certainly stated that Pleyel had
been engaged in smuggling.
James Dixon, boatman on the Coast Guard Cliff station,
was then called, and desired by the Court to make his state-
ment, which he did nearly as follows :—On or about ten
o'clock on the 11th inst. the boat was ordered to be manned
to board a hatch boat, which was proved to be the yacht, and
if the papers were not correct to bring them (the papers)
ashore, but not to detain the vessel, but let her proceed on.
When we got into the boat she was from three-quarters to a
mile ahead of us. We followed about ten minutes or a quarter
of an hour, and fired a blank cartridge. Still she would not
heave to, and was gaining ground on us, when we fired a ball
cartridge. We fired till we fired fourteen ball cartridges,
and when we found we could not come up with her at all wo
gave up the chase, and the man in charge of the boat thought
it best to return to his own station ; and seeing several vessels
coming up the River we boarded a few of them and then re-
turned to the station. We had been about a quarter of an
hour on board the watch vessel when the yacht appeared in
sight again coming up the River, and we were ordered to go
on board of her and examine her papers. The man in charge
of our boat asked the gentleman for a sight of his papers.
The reply was, " If you wish to see my papers you may go
to Greenhithe for them." The man in charge said, " Then I
must detain your vessel until I send for my chief officer." I
and George Woodroffe were left aboard the time the boat
was gone for the chief officer. I said to the gentleman, " Sir,
it is very strange that .you did not see us firing after the ves-
sel." The gentleman said, " Oh, it was us you were firing
at! Upon my honour and soul, as an Englishman, I would
sooner be shot before I'd heave to." This was all the gentle-
man said to me.

Here there was a long discussion as to ownership.
John Fulcher, commissioned boatman, examined—He stated
that Captain Tucker gave orders to overhaul the yacht every
time she came up, but he did not know what for. He gave
her a thorough good rummage himself on the fore part, and the
chief boatman rummaged the after part. The,object was to
look after contraband goods. He did not expect to find any,
nor did he find any. He looked in every place that he could
move or open, and could find no concealments, nor anything
more than belonged to the vessel.
James Atkins, commander of the Fly revenue cruiser, ex-
amined—He had been in the revenue service in and about the
Thames nearly 15 years, and he said it %as the practice to fire
ball cartridges to bring vessels to if th !y did not heave-to after
a blank cartridge had been fired.

John Sutton; commander of the Sylph revenue tender, and
13 years in the service, gave similar evidence. It was the
pract►ce of the revenue service to fire ball if a vessel did not
heave-to ; and he had very often boarded vessels going down
the river. Was aware that George Waters, now under his
command, was for some time in Mr. Moore's service, and
could, if he liked, give every i►,formation respecting, Mr.
Moore and his habits of sailings. Was aware also that Dern,
his boatswain, married a woman who was for some time in the
service of Mr. Moore's family.
George Coates, mariner on board the Sylph examined.—.
He was in Mr. Moore's service fifteen months, and during that
time had had every opportunity of judging of that gentleman's
habits in sailing; 'was sure that Mr. Moore hid nothing to do
with smuggling while he was with him, and thought if Mr.
Moore had had anything to do with it since he mint have heard
of the fact.

Mr. Moore.—And had you known anythinz of the kind
would you have reported it? Witness.—Yes, Sir, it was my
duty.

Mr. Dowpixa.—Do you know something of the con-
struction of Mr. Moore's yacht ?—.Yes.
Q. --Do you know what is meant by concealment on board
a vessel? A.—Yes.
Q.—When you left Mr. Moore's service was there any such
concealment on board his vessel ? A.—No, not any con-
cealment. .

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Q.—Have you been on board her since she came afloat this
season? A.—Yes.
Q.-45 she in the same state below that she was in when
you were in his service ?—A.—Yes, Sir.
Here this long and most oddly-conducted case was brought
to a close.

We understand that the whole of the evidence will be
transmitted to Lord John Russell, and that early in -t h e
ensuing week the subject will be again alluded to in I
went -

On Its, 7:th day ef December, 1537, your Cemmittc.-c -w.:rc appointed
under the following order of reference, by which they have carefully
governed all their proceedings :
" Resolved—That a Select Committee be appointed to inquire how
far pensions granted in virtue of Ist of Wiliam IV., c 24, and charged
on the Civil List; and in virtue of 2d and 3d of William I V., c. 116.
and charged on the Consolidated Fund, ought to be continued, having
due regard to the just claims of the parties, and to economy in the pt b-
in: expenditure."
In carrying on their inquiries your Conimittee hare had under consi.
deration every pension granted by the Crown, whether chargeable en
the Civil Lists of England, Scotland, or Ireland, or the four.and.a.half
per cent. duties; and, with the exception of some few cases, where,
from the absence of the parties from England, they have not obtained
the information required, they have been enabled to obtain explanations
on the subject of each separate pension,
Different courses might have been contemplated by your Committee,
either to consider such cases only as were challenged by some distinct
objection, or to call fur evidence in support of each particular grant. The
one would have been unsatisfactory to the House and to the country, as
it might have raised the supposition that pensions objectionable in them.
selves were allowed to pass without question or inquiry ; dor would such
a course have been, in the judgment of your Committee, consistent with
the duties entrusted to them; the other would have caused an almost
interminable inquiry, and might have acted with severity and hardship
in many cases. The course followed by your Committee was one which
appeared to them to avoid these two objections. It was as follows :
In order to facilitate the proceedings of your Committee, a circular
letter was addressed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the persons
entitled to civil list pensions, of which your Committee insert a copy :--
" Downing-street, Nov. 24.
" As it will be my duty in the early part of the present Session to
move for a Committee to inquire how far the existing pensions ought
to be continued, having due regard to the just claims of the parties and
to economy in the public expenditure,' I take the liberty of addressing
you on the subject.
" As statements and inquiries may be made in that Committee with
respect to the original grant of such pensions, or the circumstances now
attending them, to which the parties interested may have the means of
giving a satisfactory reply, and as much of misapprehension on there
subjects has prevailed, which a reference to the facts of the case may
remove, I am most anxious to express to the parties interested not only
my willingness, but my anxiety to be favoured by them (if they shall so
think fit) with any information which they shall feel it desirable to sub..
mit to the Committee through me. I make this communication with
the view of saving the parties from any trouble, anxiety, or inconve-
nience which it may be in my power to avert.
" When the House of Commons undertook an inquiry into the exist_
ing sinecures, I wrote a letter to the same effect with the present to the
several parties Interested, and the facts and explanations which were
then given me enabled me to remove misconceptions which had ope_
stated to the prejudice of some of the holeers ofthe offices under exami-
nation. Should my present communication lead to the same result, it
will be gratifying to me.
" In respect to the extent or nature of the information which may be
sought for by the Committee, it would be extremely presumptuous on
nay part to express an opinion; but I take the liberty of advertine in the
declaratory words of Mr. Burke's Act (22d of Geo. lll.;cap.-82), in which
it is expressly stated that it is no disparagement for any persons to be
relieved by the royal bounty in their distress, or for their desert, but, on
the contrary, it is honourable on just cause to be thought worthy of
such reward.' In all cases (and lam well aware that such cases are
numerous) when the origin of these grants can be traced to the s;;oblie
service of the parties, their families or relations, or to oth:a causes
creating a just claim 011 the bounty of the Crown, it will be *,most desirable
that these cases should be stated in order to afford th% moat conclusive
and satisfactory information to the Committee.
" I must again repeat that the object of this 'letter is to afford the
parties interested the greatest facility in 11140,g •zany
statement which
they may be desirous of submitting in reps'y to objections either to the
grant or the continuance of their pens;.un,, and that in doing so I am
far from expressing any opinion vi'Alt respect to the course which the
proposed Committee are likely, .to pursue.
I have not felt it fr,:at to make this an official application, and any
reply with which I -way
be favoured shall (if the parties so desire it) be
consi,tered light of a private letter. I have the honour to be
your ',eV!, bliedient and very humble servant,

" SPRING R ICE."
The answers to these inquiries, with the exception of those few which
were strictly confidential, were communicated to your Committee, and
further inquiries were made where such investigations appeared neces-
, sary ; in every case, whatever collateral information could be furnished
by the public departments o;' the Government was immediately procured.
Your Committee feel it to be no more than their duty to state, that but
for these preliminary inquiries and arrangements it would have been ex-
tremely difficult for them to have executed the duties entrusted to them
by the House; at the same time they take this opportunity of suggest-
ing that if the original warrants, patents, or grants had set forth the
claims of the several pensioners, and the reasons which induced the re-
commendation of the pension, a condition easily performed where well.
merited pensions only are recommended to the Crown, their difficulties
would have been infinitely lessened, if not entirely obviated.
When the House consider the periods at which several of these pen-
sions were granted, and connect with those dates the state of the law and
of the practice which has been already explained in the earlier pages of
this report, they will not be surprised to find that a much more lax and
careless system was applied in former than in latter times. The opera-
tion of the Superannuation Act, the grant of retired allowances, the
naval and military pensions granted tbr good services, the pensions granted
by the 57th of George 111., c. 65, for persons who have occupied high
political offices, and the pensions for diplomatic and consular services,
have to a great extent superseded one of the original purposes of the
pension list. These Acts have also substituted a strictly defined and
regulated system of reward for a System which depended on the arbitrary
selection of the Crown, or the recommendation of the existing Govern.. ment, exposed to the bias of party or personal considerations. Your
Committee have also found that in the proportion as grants were
local in their nature responsibility was less felt, and the facilities
of abuse were augmented. Thus the distribution of pensions in
Scot'and and in Ireland was made more carelessly than in Eng-
Lind. The same principle applied its a certain degree to the grants
on the Four-and a-Half per cent, duties. The pensions for life by
patent in the Irish list are similar in principle. With respect
to these your Committee have had before them the opinions of the
Attorney and Solicitor-General for England, and the Attorney-General
for Ireland, which affirm that such grants were legal and binding, and
consequently ought not to be disturbed. Where grants of this kind
have been legally made and are legally operative, your Committee con.-
skier that the economical benefit to be derived from the reduction of a
few questionable pensions would be but an imperfect compensation for
the evil effects of disturbing those important principles on which are
founded the permanence and security of all property,
Your Committee are anxious to impress upon the House that, in per.
forming the duty assigned to them, they have constantly borne in mind
that the question referred to them was the continuance or discontinu-
ance of pensions already granted. They have felt that this question re.
(mired to be dealt with on very different principles from those which
would have been-applicable to these grants if proposed for the first time;
because your Committee felt bound to consider, not only the original
merits and claims of the several parties, but also the expectations which
they might have entertaincd of the continuance of the bounty of the
Crown, and the distress in which they might be involved by the with.
drawal of that which constituted in very many cases the whole, or the
greater part of their means. Acting on these principles, your Committee
have in many cases felt themselves justified by giving considerable
weight to family settlements, whether by will or otherwise, in which
pensions have been treated as a fund for permanent arrangements, or
have been mortgaged or transferred for a valuable consideration.
Nor has the age of your pensioners been overlooked, your Committee
having, in very many instances, considered it more advisable that the
public should await the natural termination of the grant by time, than
anticipate such an event where the person is far advanced in life. In
conducting their inquiries upon these principles your Committee consi.
der they are fulfilling the intentions of the House as expressed by the or-
der of reference, which directed them to have "due regard to the just
claims of the several parties." Your Committee deem it expedient to
make this explanatory statement, in order not only to show the grounds
on which their recommendations rest, but to guard themselves against
the inference that they have given their sanction to the principles on
which many of the pension* were granted which remain undisturbed.
On the contrary, your Committee explicitly disclose, that although they
have not felt justified in recommending the discontinuance of some ob.
jectionable grants, they distinctly express their satisfaction that no pen.
sion can be granted hereafter, but in accordance with the resolution of
the House of Commons in 1834, and the Civil List Act of the present
reign.

At the commencement of their inquiries it appeared to your Com-
mittee that the Pension-list might be generally considered under two
respective heads :-1. Pensions granted exclusively for service. 2. Pen-
sions granted as marks of Royal bounty for the relief of distress. With
respi ct to the first, after much consideration, they determined that an
inquiry into the private and pecuniary circumstances of the several
Parties was not requisite, as it appeared to them that if real and merit°_
tious services had been rendered, the wealth or poverty of the parties
does not vary the obligations which they have conferred on the Crown
or on the public; but where the origin of the grant was traceable to
the necessities of the pensioners, it did not appear either harsh or unjust,
but, on the contrary, that it was the strict duty of the Committee to,in-
quire whether the causes which originally produced and justified the
grant still continued to exist.
Your Committee found, in the progress of their investigations, that
a variety of mixed cases presented themselves, in which the services of
the pensioner or of some immediate relative, combined with narrow and
limited means, formed the justification of the original grant. To these
cases your Committee have applied much labour and attention, and
have endeavoured, to decide upon each in a liberal spirit, but not with..
out the most careful examination into the peculiar grounds upon whirls
each separate grant could either be objected to or defended.
Your Committee subjoin to this report a list of all the existing pen.. sions referred to them by the House. They have classed them under
the following heads, where they are connected with particular branches
of the public service, or capable of being traced to an origin admitting
of such arrangements:-
1. Army, 2. Navy, included in one class; 3. Diplomatic; 4. Judi.
cial and Legal; 5. Political; 6. Civil and Revenue; 7. Colonial; S.
Services to Royal Family and in household ; 9. Rewards for literary and
scientific attainments; 10. Royal bounty and charity; 11. Compensa-
tion for forfeited estates ; 12. Miscellaneous, not included as above.
Your Committee trust that the explanations given in the appendix
will appear to the House clear and satisfactory, and they are enabled to
state with confidence that no efforts on their part have been omitted
which could ensure its accuracy and precision. It is formed from the
information laid before them, excluding that portion which was confi-
fidentially communicated, and which, as it relatedto the private eircum.
stances of the several parties, your Committee feel assured the House
would neither expect nor desire to see made matters of public disclosure.
Your Committee have the satisfaction to state to the House that the
following pensions have been resigned, and, consequently, cease to be
any charge upon thepublic :
Aston, Lord; Auckland, Lord (ceased to be received on Lord
Auckland's appointment to the Board of Trade in 1830) ; Borens.
Lady Catherine; Bradshaw, Augustus; Bromley, Lady Louisa; Car.
marthen, Marchioness of; Cranstoun, Lord ; Bouverie, Lady Frances ;
Dalrymple, Elizabeth ; Drummond, Thomas (surrendered whilst Under
Secretary for -Ireland) ; Elphinstone, (Lord (surrendered on appoint_riet
-
ment to Madras); Grant, Catherine; —, Anne; --Ha
Lushington
Gray, Lady; Hunter, Sir Richard; flay, Lady
Hon. F. ; Lennox, Lady Sophia; Parnell, Jane;ady Caroline; Strang.
ford, Viscount. •
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grants should be withheld, your Committee abstain
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ding a discontinuance of such pension. In some of
those cases the relatives have taken on themselves the payment of the
pensioners theseng
sums hitherto received from the State, but others have not done so;
and your Committee feel it their duty to express their decided opinion
that wheordedre doitseis relatiainonshtly connexions
and where tneans of support may
that appi to f
ication for relief should be made.
, and not to the public purse.,
Your Committee have placed in a separate class certain pensionst--
be aff,
which, in their judgment, should for the present be suspended, and. •
should only be regranted on the responsibility of the GovernmentOol,
case the circumstances of the parties require it, when the partictilar
contingency arises which may render such pension hereafter necessary.
The majority of these cases are those of ladies who, during the life-
time of their husbands, do not stand in need of those pensions, but to

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whcra they may become.nccessary as a species of !ettlernent or jointure
in the event of their aurvivinz, their husbands.
Another class forms the converse of the preceding one. - It conipre-
'bends many to whom your Committee consider that the existing pin.
lions should be continued for the present; but where the term of the
grant should, be limited to another, and generally a shorter, period, than
that which was originally fixed.
From a very few of the pensioners, as your Committee have already
stated, they have not obtained an answer to their inquiries. TI-is has
arisen, in all cases but one, in consequence of the absence of the parties
from Frngland. Your Committee are of opinion, that in respect to these
few instances, the Government on its own responsibility may he em-
powered to regrant these pensions, if on a full examination it is found
that the parties are entitled to claim them on the principles laid down
in this Report, every such regrant being laid on the table of the House
of Commons, with an explanation of the principles on which it has
been advised.

The last class on the list comprises those pensions which, in the
judgment of the Committee, ought not to be continued. In submit-
ting this recommendation, your Committee cannot but tee! considerable
reluctance, because they are well aware that, in consequence of the
continued renewal of civil.list pensicns from reign to reign, and even
after a change of dynasty, an expectation was created in the minds of
parties that these perisicns should not be diiturbed. But, giving full
weight to these objections, your Committee•, however reluctant they
may feel, cannot shrink from the performance of the duty imposed
upon them by the House. They are, however, of opinion that provi-
sion should be made for the payment of the amount already oue to all
those parties whose pensions are proposed to be susi.ended or wholly
discontinued.

Your Committee cannot close this Report without calling the atten.
tion of the House to the progressive advancement of sound and consti-
tutional principles in reference to this subject. In the early part of the
reign of George 111., the power of the Crown in granting pensions was
wholly unrestrained. In England no limits were imposed beyond the
discretion of the Minister, and the necessities of the Civil List.
In Ireland the Sovereign possessed and exercised an unli-
mited right—both as to the amount, and as to the duration of
the grant—extending even to the injury of succeeding Sovereigns.
In Scotland, until 1810, an unresisted power existed of charging the
hered:tary revenue. No provision was made to afford adequate
security in this respect through the responsibility of the Ministers, or to
allow public opinion to pronounce a judgment upon the advice given to
the Sovereign. When these circumstances arc considered, it is rather
matter of surprise to your Committee that cases of abuse have not
occurred much more frequently than has been the case. At the present
time not only is the amount of pensions limited, but the principles on
which pensions can hereafter be granted are strictly deflnetlisy law, and
an immediate responsibility to Parliament is provided for. These are
the great and important improvements ; but, at the same time, your
Committee feel that some further recommendations are required from
them, in order to give additional security against future abuse.
1. They recommend that in the case of all future civil list pensions
the warrant or other instrument of appointment should set forth dis-
tinctl7 the reason and motive of the grant. This will be a check against
inconsiderate recommendations for pensions, and will furnish to l'arlia.
tn ent hereafter that ready information which your Committee have
round so much difficulty in obtaining.

a. They recommend that where pensions are granted for services to
persons other thin the individual by whom the services were rendered,
care should be taken, if these pensions are granted for younger live',
that ibe amount of pensions should be reduced so as to prevent any
undue inilrcase of charge to the public. 'indeed, except under very pe-
culiar circutnstances, it is the opinion of your Committee that such
grants should be avoided, and all the facts connected with them consi-
dered with the greatest care.
3. They recommend, that in cases where pensions are granted as
acts of Royal bounty for the relief of distress, it should be distinctly
Provided tli:t such grants should cease when the circumstances of the
parties no longe.'required their continuance.
This principle ha; already been acted on in various cases, even where
a pension had been gran:!'d for public services, highly to the credit of
the parties concerned, among Whom the names of Viscount Sidmouth,
tle late Lord Farnborough, Mr. Moore, Mr. Marsden, and Mr. Charles
Bathurst are honourably distinguished.
The House will also bear in mind that Civil List pensions have been
surrendered on the same grounds, and that for several years the pen.
sions granted to the Duchess of Newcastle, Lord Reay, Mrs. Percy
Smith, and Lady Seymour, have ceased by the voluntary acts of the
parties interested.
4. They recommend that under no circumstances should the mere
combination of poverty with the hereditary rank of the Peerage be con.
sidered as a justification of a grant of a pension. It is far from being
the wish of your Committee to express an opinion that a Peer should
nut have the same inducements to exertion, and should not share in the
same rewards for services rendered, which are enjoyed by other classes
of her Majesty's subjects ; but your Committee consider, no less for
the honour of the Peerage itself, than tor the interests of the public ser.
vice, that the system of granting Civil List pensions to the members of
the Peerage, merely because they are reduced in their circumstances,
should be altogether discontinued.

5. In order to avoid any possible doubt or misconception hereafter,
your Committee recommend that enactments with respect to the Irish
and Scotch revenue, analogous to those contained in the English statute
of Ist Anne, should be made part of the Bill which provides for the re.
grant of the Civil List pensions.
6. They recommend that all pensions to be granted should beheld liable
to deduction or suspension in the event of the parties being appointed
to office in the public service, thus rendering the continuance of the
pensions unnecessary, either for a time or permanently. The course
has been followed in some cases of grants of pensions submitted to your
Committee, and might. be advantageously extended further.
Your Committee have now concluded their important and laborious
duties, and have only to recommend that a provision be made on the
Consolidated Fund for the pensions charged on the Civil List, trans.
/erred to ,the Consolidated Fund, or charged on the per cent. du.
ties, agreeably to the tenour of this Report ; and in order that Parlia-
ment may be satisfied that these principles are strictly czaried into effect,
your Committee recommend that a return of pensions which her Ma-
jesty may be pleased to regrant shall he laid on the table of the House
within ten days of the opening of next Session.—July, 1838.

PENSION COMMITTEE.

( From the Morning Post.)

The silence which we thought it our duty to maintain when
we published on Thursday ra.t the report of the Pension
Committee, as to the individu.ds affected by its rec':.mmenda-
tions, is no longer imposed upon us. Every particular has
already gone forth to the world by order of the House of
Commons, and we are at liberty to compare the ac::ount of suf-
fering and of injustice inflicted on individuals on the one band,
with the shabby amount of gain to be dishonourably and, as we
think, dishonestly acquired for the public on the other.
The following persons have, it would seem, pi eferred the
resignation of an income which they enjoyed from the bounty
of the Crown (and which the Royal donors and the grateful
receivers equally suppo,•ed to be granted securely for the life
of the possessors), to the unpleasant alternative of having their
private affairs investigated by a Select Committee of the
House of Commous. The saving to the public under this
head is 3,587/. at the utmost ; but from this amount it would
be fair to deduct the amount of pensions temporarily surren-
dered, on the parties to whom they have been granted being
appointed to any lucrative office. The list is thus given in
The appendix to the report :