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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
Lord ALTHORP moved, in the usual forte, " That on
each succeeding Monday and Friday, Orders of the Day
Should have precedence of Notices."
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Mr. S. WORTLEY wished to include Wednesday.
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that business of importance should not be
brought forward on Wednesday, although it might be ex.
pedient to advance the Bills on the table in their stages.
The Order having been made in the form moved by
Lord ALTHORTy
Mr. S. WORTLEY said, that or a future day he would
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submit a motion to include Wednesday.
ADDRESS TO THE KING.
Mr. PELHAM appeared at the Bar with the Report
on the Address. It was brought up and read ; and, on
the motion that it be agreed to,
Mr. HUME observed, that it was not his intention to
move any arnendinert, but he wished to protest against
being supposed to ccncur in all parts of the Address. Ile
referred particularly to the paragraphs regarding Belgium
and Portugal, fur he must possess more information than
was yet upon the table before he could assent to the asser-
tion that this country had striet'y observed the principle of
uon-interference. He complained that Ministers had
neglected the claims of British subjects on Brazil, and ob-
jected to the pledge contained in the Address that the
House would make good deficiencies in the expenditure f
the country. He wished to know whether Ministers
meant, by this paragraph, to pledge the Hoirse to the sanc-
tion of any new taxes? He hoped to hear that no flesh
impositions were intended ; and he must say that the Noble
Lord (Althorp) deserved the utmost credit for the course
he had pursued in the last session. True it was, that an
Hon. and Learned Member had contended, last night, that
the Budget was a complete failure. He (Mr. Hume) dee
nied it, and contended, on the other hand, that the Budget
was completely successful. Was it nothing that the duties
upon coals, slates, and calicoes had been removed? The
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only points which could be at all considered failures related
to the duty on the transfer of property and that uron
steam boats, for the question regarding wine had been post-
' poned. Tie House, as at present constituted, was pledged
runt only to Reform, but to economy; and the Noble Lord
(the Chancellor of the Exchequer) would find himself cor-
dially supported in all his endeavours to save the public
money, by the abolition, for instance, of the offices of Re-
ceivers-General of Taxes, which had for some time been
contemplated.
Colonel SIBTHORPE maintained with considerable
energy that the Budget of the Noble Lord wens a failure front
beginning to end, and that it want absurd to suppose that
the sensible people of England could be satisfied with it.
He farther insisted that the Address was a delusion, and
that, like the Reform Bill, it was humbugging the inhabi-
tants of this country.
Lord ALTHORP had no hesitation in saying at once,
in answer to the Hon. Member for Middlesex, that the
paragraph to which he had particularly alluded was in-
serted in the King's Speech in order to accomplish the
plan of substitution of two taxes, the abolition of which
had, be inikht elniost say, been agreed upon in the last
session. The one was the tax on the import of raw cot-
ton, to which even parties concerned in the trade had as-
sented, instead of the duty upon printed calicoes; the
other was an alteration in the duty on wines ; and he
hoped to be able to carry them into effect in the present
year. The Budget had been a favourite subject of attack
L against him, but he hoped he had always borne those
attacks with good hurnoune—(Hear, hear.) There was
one of those measures to which the greatest opposition
had been offered upon its being proposed, and respecting
which be was then and now satisfied that there was no-
thing iu his proposition that could injure the public credit,
infringe upon the rights of the creditor, or violate the pub-
lic faith.—(Hear, hear.) Yet he, on that occasion, had
though it his duty to give way to the opposition iLf the
House.—(Hear.) As to the timber duties, of which so
much had been said on the preceeding night, it was not
the Inert that he abandoned thene—(Hear. ) The truth
was, the House left Linn in a minority.—( Hear, hear.)
Yet be would still maintain the propriety of altering
those duties (hear, hear) ; and he thought the alters_
tion consistent with the interest of the countre
and desirable (hear and cheers) ; and although he was
unwilling to introduce in the present Session any thing
which could create angry discussion, he was not prepared
to say that he had abandoned the principle of that alters-
tion.—(Hear.) The lion. Member for Lincoln (Colons
Sibthorpe) said that the country had received no benefit r
advantage from the budget, evinich he (the Chancellor of
the Exchequer) brought forward in the late Parliament.-
-(lean) He was surprised to hear that assertion made
by a gentleman connected with a county which had de-
rived considerable benefit from the reduction of the duties
upon sea-borne coals.—(Cheers.) He (Lord Althorp)
should like to know what the people of Lincoln would say
when they heard it asserted, that the reduction of the
duties upon candles conferred no benefit upon them..—
(Hear.) Knowing that these reductions had materially
benefitted that county, he was surprised that such an attack
should have come from a gentleman connected with it.
Sir R. INGLIS had looked over seven successive
Speeches front the Throne, and had found in each of them
an expression of gratitude for the good which we had de-
rived from Divine Providence. lie had in vain looked for
any allusion in the present Speech ; and be was, there-
fore, unwilling that the Report should be received, with-
out noticing what he had no doubt was an unintentional
omission. —(hear, hear.)
Mr. BRISCOE cordially concurred in the observations
of the Honourable Baronet.
Lord ALTHORP did not think that the omission of
the expressions of gratitude and submission towards the
Divine Providence in such a document as that alluded to
showed any want of those feelings in the Ministers who
prepared it.—(llear, hear.) He thought that a discussion
on that subject would much better he avoided.—(Hear. )
Mr. TRANT joined in the complaint respecting the
omission of all reference to the Divine Providence. How
were we to expect relief—to he relieved in time of war,
pestilence and famine, if we did not look up on bight for
succour.—(Cheers.)
Mr. HUNT was of a different opinion front that of the
Gentleman who had spoken from that (the Opposition)
side of the House. He hoped that the Ministers had not
made the omission unintentionally, but with full delibera-
tion. It was his habit freely to declare his opinions upon
• that subject out of that Douse, and he hoped he would
be allowed to use e/nere the same freedom.—(Hear, hear.)
It had been often remarked, in connection with the subject
of the 1-lon. Baronet's complaint against the Speech, that
whenever any evils bele' the country in consequence of
misgovernment, the Ministers of the day always, in the
King's Speech, attributed the calamity to Divine Provi •
dente ; but whenever any measure was attended with sue-
cess, they took the credit to themselves.—(Hear. )
Mr. GOULBURN and Mr. ESTCOURT con• hereof
in the observations of Sir R. Inglis.
Mr. WARBURTON thought that the frequent abuse
of the name of Providence, in many frowner speeches,
afforded to the Ministers a frill justificat'..en for the omission
complained 0f..--(1-1ear.)
colonel TORRENS said. he had but one observation to
• make. The people of England are a religious and a moral
people ; they are also a ,tensible and discerning people.—
They do not believe that a prude is always chaste, or that
a bully is always brave; nor do they believe that those
persons we the most seriously religious who deliver sermons
in political assemblies, who " pray standing is the streets,"
and who make their devotions in public places.
Mr. GOULBURN explained.
Mr. SADLER protested against the doctrines which
had been advanced in reply to the Hon. Baronet (Sir It.
Inglis). He hoped the people of England would never
lose sight of those recognitiens of the sacred princip'ee
by an attention to wlikk England had become what she
is.—(Hear.) If she once deserted them, she would re-
vert to her eerliest state of harbarisv:4.—(flear.)
r O. CLERK thought that whatever triiunpls the
Gallant Officer opposite (Onlonel Torrens) might derive
from the laugh which ibllowed his sneer at those who had
graver opinioua than the Gallant Colonel respecting the
presetel- subject, he was sure that his Majesty's Ministers
did not feel any very great satisfaction from the course of
conduct adopted by their allies—(Cheers)—by those who
were defending them from the charge of an inadvertent
emission.—(hear.) As the people had been spoken of, he
would answer for the inhabitants of that part of the country
with which he was connected, that they would view with
no eat alaem tine manner in which that subject had been en-
tertained in the very beginning of the new Parliament.—
(Cheers, and a laugh.) lie hoped that when the Govern-
ment remodelled that assembly, its Members would not be
forgetful of what is due to that Power front whom all good
deeived.—(Cheers.)
Mr. ROB'!'. GRANT would only prolong this discus-
sion for a moment, in order to request that it might drop.
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Friend (Lord Althorp) had stated that its
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