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- . had attempted to 0 60, nowipg that lie could be formitytothe kr33o oftlteHoWe, or la sure ! . ~M re "%Vermin/1 Ina:L.oler pleasure he received
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'restrained. - ' . thetent grounds fora departure from. them. ,Tats from one pare of the speech of theßigat 1-fonederi
. Mr. Hiesseassoer, in
,explanatione , repeated _thee Honograhle ktronet had -hrottkht f'ciWard a .case .1111 ,' tlemane had thee ed the indignation eleized, ha .a 1),
diulition!'frbrit Which, If the Hoeseinterfeised with ' ,'si precedent nor a very resent one; but the person : other._
.was glad th he
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the Hospital, 'COlonel .111erdon Must haVe pulled. it lie handed rut Sir John ,Hartriati,; was only corn - 1 -partially lany Provision his Noble Friend' ;might
dpwn. ,The Treasury hod he power to fix the sci,to 'milted for fowler examination. It : li:ailjormerly I bring forward to prevent, such ,abuses in .Parliar
0/- the riMlSei but they had !a right to point out • costeinary,oo, a , reresentation being made to the 1- meet.: The Chancellor: of .the Fotehequer.:did Rot
*here it should not be erected. House, 'that a person committed to Newgate dekort- 1 do Well to taunt the lionourable:.bentleman as, he
deneral TattLiTo?:i and Mr. Loeb severally ex- . ed hiMself better thee when et the Bar, to remove c did about.what he knewepfasueh ehtteesje evAry,
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pleated. - ' • • ; him from sewgate to a e custody:cif the Serjeaut at one knew .ole.theM • .11e. (Mr: Whitbread) wale •
Mr. C/taxa:eat stated, that he had been ati Chef- Arms, and on his redeeming his character, further i was, never cermet-lei with any Government knee,'
sea in consecjuetice of What had come but befbre the :to liberate him, wholly. But because , a Member :of them.. With reveal to the, 'Hampshire' elec-
[loose ; arriving there he rung the bell, and told the Might be absent on any particular
.discussion, be 4 tion, he remembered he (the.:Chaneellor of • the •
servant Who answered it that be wished to be allow. '. would net be all Owed to pane afterwards and call 1 Exchetjuer) was then in, the m-inorit,i,, and , then
ed to view the foundation of Colouel Gordon's on - them to re-adjudge what, bad already . been . was of* opinion as lie (Mr, Whitbread). had
hectic. The man replied he had positive orders to soletatily decided-upon..
- ..... ', b&!ir for nineteen years, that . minorities were
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,admit no one. ' Upon this he applied to a friend Atter some anther inquiries into the forme of the . not unfreqtiently in the right. That there were
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who he thought could give him a written order to 'House, a conversation,
,in which the Speaker, . Sir ptiblic market's for the sale of seats h Paha-
go.over the premises; it was not •however in the ,ThotnaS Tuaton, and the Chancvllor of the Ea- Meat no one could deny. Why then in Govt's name '
power of that friend to do so; and lie was informed chequer participated, the Hon, iligonet went on, Whinot strike at the rook of the evil, and 'Make it
he could only obtain one by applying to Sir David with a view of proving suificienagreund existed fOr i a thisdemeanoar to buy a seat at Parliament ? Re. '
pandas. Since the last debate it had transpired that a departure fret ru the established usage of the House, Wiellied the 'light Eforioarible Gentleman, as he
the situation of Colonel Gordon's house was not tuck, in the case of., Geeeral daveriog ; bute grounding had treated the sehjecl with such *nye to ask his
that no room could exist tor co Mplaiin, . as it was in some o
a rhheargurnente ott the mieutee, .ef., evidence, right band Friend if a million and a half had not
contemplation to consult the Surveyors of the CroWta before the House, which lie cited,•
.been t
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Lands, the Physicians of that Hospital, 84c. the very . Mr. Peeeoeai spoke to order
.Lais the,Honotir- . land ter such aituposes ? If Ministers would fiat put
day, before the Hon. Baronet. made his nunienea-e , able Baronet, had no new materials,, he could nor an .end to .such pradices, 'such prtiait:es would -put.
This, it had been said, was' their intention the day adtith the 'propriety of re-arguing the question on ad end
,to thi‘ar:. Many men sat in that House Whet
before the , motion,' and thence Ministers would the old evidence, 'wit:it had already heist) discussed, were not 'iePresentatives "of the peoPle, but merely .
have it inferred, that they would have interfered had . as there was no end to such, proceedings, if every ' representatives of their own money, and et More,
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the subject never been brought before the House.— person who disapproved of a ciceision; might renew . while representieg their own Money, the; were not
But this did not follow, becauie such steps
,wire, the„diseussion at pleaaure, , , at their own disposal, but obliged, to tote 111 others
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taken the; day before the Hon. Baronet brought lota' A short cotiversationen4ued between the Speakere thought tit, to direst them. Or if they voted con-
ward his motion, as it was to ho remembered the ' Sir I'. Turton,. and Sir. M. W. Ridley, which was # aistent with. the dictates of "honour nod their own-
notice he had given was sufficient ,to itectkittAbe ' aflength abruptly terminated by the Chancellor of . hearts; they must. lose both sent and money: Ho
such a procedure. ' :. ' . - the Excheetier, who moved the second reading of—i then adverted to the case of, a )oung,,man who had
Mr. Lotqa observed, that he 'meant to mate they - BILL Fdk:
.I'4EVENTING ABUSES IN THE SALE lost a situation he held, through being concerned in
had it in contemplation to take such a step, not the - -.- o! r• 0 FYICLS.
~ , similar troy
hi ;lee hoped Alinisters would take-
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warning by hint, lesf by tailineisto gut an end tot
day before the motion was made; but the day before • lora roLKST9NI: did not think siteh,exteneßaidli::
notice was given of the motion. - • - • - vanteget might be exieCted.to result from the such practices altogether, they experiettced a sinalar
Mr. Ceeceetar was glad the Bight Hon. Gentle- as, the Right Hon.'Oentleman seemed. to iinegine: it fate. He hoped :their cuticle& would be, tacit that
. went to oppose oh.tacles tri such ;tholes, but not
man had corrected himself on' so material a point.
to the most, captious caviller in the world would not find,
' Mr. W. Weeti4a thought it strange that such a annihilate them. Many siffitiar Bills hadbeen pass- reaton to suspect their integrity. Had nut 'seats been
sfaWinetit was not made. in ttl. former debate.
.It ed to little etlett. aHe „theneadverted to the.abuses thuedisposed of, they would not, have boasted that
lievatis riot mistaken, he heard it asserted by .some in the East Indie,Ccimpa'aye and proceeded to speak preponderating influence which they, bad at the tbs.
one' that the iiitunticti Of Col. Gordon's house was elthepropriely oaetrelatmg a parliamentary Reform, solution of the ,last Parliament ;,:and e lilt 1110 SC ad-
stich, thiati.no inconvenience could arise froM its by: potting a stop to the aile of Seats in the House.—
Such a', traffic eaisted,,,g flourished. tinder the 247, wholly stifled,
vantages the voice of the people would not have be being built: on the spot where the foundation had
had they, not first been driven mad.
been laid.' • . ' • spicea of the Treasury. It Was notorieps, thatat, if they wished to produce ereform, they might ree
- -mr. atebehought it probable the 'Hon. Gentle- every dissolution of. Parliament, a sort of as
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opeoed,, where persenahavitig tioleuesits at their dis-
' man had 'Misunderstood him, when he stated that
to nothing. The Fitin.. Member Concluded with a
such/ measure& had takene-that' he building poSalaa'aorted, staling, the teems on which their in-
would' be erialtid from which any inconveniences fluenceshould be :exerted in leaoureaf any, pnea-,. ..,. . .
cotild beexpeated to arise. -.-. . ' . He was:of opinion it would be ptoper to appoint g Mr. W. Weeseee did not think the promised pro-
.vitiOns necessary to the - present Bill,' and spoke of
Mr, BAutrAst thought that an • *shy should be Committee to inquire' into such abases, aseertain_
made to ascertain who gave the order, in cousequanee faats, Ate.. He throe out these few observatlons, for the impropt,ietyof letting the income of. the Chief
of which Me!nbers of that House were (secluded' ' theceruideration Of 'the 'lliehe'lloo. Geritleuan—,, Maeistrates reipain as 'they are.
frotii avie*of the premises. •• .-' I he S4Ouid see what notieteaves taken of them "from Mr. ,gANKRS exPlainede ~, :. ' ' a• '
' Aaer a few words from Mr..H.
dewed 1110
.After -a few .vierds froth 'another Honourable time to time, and aa..teas: he thought proper. He
Member, Whose narne we &add Writ learn, and thought such a cbritiprpfaatiee as time sale of watts Bill wails reed a second tints; tied ordered. to be Corn-.
• Mr. =W. STEWARD, the Papers were ordered to be :in that Host* of .moreitoportanee .than arty other mitted.on this ea e ,e' • y
.se nmg a . , , ,
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produced. , abuse in. the sale of places under Government. . Mr. WilaturoN brought up the Report of the
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Mr. W. WYNNR moved fora Return of the E • Mr..BANERS said, that front the Report which its' litis Completion Bill, which, with the Amendments,
Recruits obtaknea in Spain and Portugal,—Ordered, had brought up from
,the'East India Compaey, it di was read and-agreed to. Some new clauses ware
Mr. liusitissoe brought. up the Papers relating to not•appear that any specific aatalleci for the inter- brought up by 'Lard Castlereagh; -and agreed to;
Chelsea Hospital.---Qrdered to lie on the table. ' ferenee of the 'Legislature, . :The Noble Lord had .„
afier which the Bill 'was' ordered for a third reading
' . GENERALTLAVERING. said, that the Bill of • the 'Right Hail',' Gondeman on Mondarnext.
~, Sir T. TURTON rote, pursuant to his motion; to would not. ,do away such abuses eltogather. Whae '.
LOCAL MILITIA.
call the attention of the Houseto the case of General Legislator was ever sanguine enough' to 'hope that
Lerd 'CASTLEREAGH moved the taking into consie
(levering. He thought' it should be no common any remedy he might oiler would wholly put a stop &ration the'Repore of the Local Militia Bill.
motive that Lauated a Member of that House, when to vice.? If making it matt-difficult for such abuses Ar.
...‘er a few observations from Mr. WHITBREAti
and Mr. W. WYNNE, time Report %vas re4cOnsidered;
he moved that a question. already discussed should tticaists iteemsed them to omit but 4111ml:tit was -
, and 'tioltie new clauses broaght op by Leoia Castle,.
be again taken, into consideration. Rut he trusted, all. that could be expealea Iron, the wisdom of map.
Adverting egein to the, Ilaest lodia Company,lhe
in a-case where the liberty of the subjea was con-
magi), which. were agreed. to.—The Bill wits then or-
cerned,e he should not be thought reprehensible in said; if they did but adhere to whet be thought they, •dered for a third rending to-morrow.
thus ~obtruding.. himself on their notice. -He would adhere, their own, resolutions, he thought it The Report of thee Navy Compassionate List Bill
would, be the last man in the House to counte would be hipg before they again heard of
ehuses, of was reeeised, the several Amendineets were. read
!lance any departure from their established usages, , magnitude in that quarter.
.., . .. , • . , and agreed toe, aticathe Bill orderedfor a third' read-
but in, a case thus important. -He did not know - Mr. CithliVEY knew, that an a dilsolution of. Pere ing to-redrrow. •' . - Foment every Governinent engaged •in. the traffic for. Mr. Haisitaisee brought up an Account of the
Lions. He did not doubt but they would do justice seats, and thus gained a preponderating influence. at , gross produce of .the Fee Funds in dies Secretary of
to his motives, and he trusted that though he might' that House. To etre& ti refoini, • Governmeet State's Office.--Ordered*to lie on the table,
not convince them of that which he felt convinced should be restrained frnm having any thing to do Mr. fiusetssote also brought up an Account re-
of himself, yet they would think him entitled to with' the sale of seats. To talk of an eppeal to, the listing to the Grant of 50001. per annum out of- the
their attention. He moreover flattered himself. that public oa the dissolution at Parliament was tidiest- , 4k per cents. made in the year 176
ster to his Royal
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the House would not feel averse to review theireseo- ' public
was a mockery ;it might with greater pre- Hi-
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ceedings, and it necessary, corral diem. General priety be denominated an vocal to the T hness the late Duke ofGlouee.- Ordered to
reasury.— lie on the table. .:.' .
~ , „ • Claverins had been committed to Newgate, lie be- Till something was done to put .a stop to this abuse, Adjourned at Half past Ten o'clock:
lieved, for prevaricati on ; indisposition put it out of all their exertions- would be et little eveiL
his power to attend that debate which closed with ; • The CHANCELLOR of the Exthie,ueEtt was glad
en order foi his being Committed lo prison. *He did the Noble Lord did not think the Bill likely. to awed.
ROt now coffee forward merely on behalf of the un- - nothing, and flattered himself that when the whole 'I.
fortunate. General now in confinement ; but he con- of its eau:lntents were-known,' it would be, found
suited the dignity of the House, when he wished . more comprehensible than he was aware.: The No.
theta to take into their consideration again proceed- . ble Lord had said, that though some obstecles had
lugs which Might appear incompatible with the line been throWn in the.wry at corruption, the whole. ~
a condu& usually pursued by them.:, Here the would not be. put a stop to, as abuses would creep
Honourable Baronet-gave a 'definition of the word, Mayhem, a teniptatibtaeitisted This he thought no,
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prevarication, Which he considered to imply an in- . argiment against the Bill's passeig, and he could I.
tention to deceive, 'or design to shuffle. They had : not but consider.the observation at the Noble Lord
not given it ,as their opinin that General Clavering as a conlniendation. For more etfeetually prevent-
was guilty of wilful prevarication i be therthre be- ' ing abuses he had endeavoured to du away the tempe
lieved theirJoureals contained tiO precedent for such • tatitai, as the Bill proposed that all .places, otliees,
* procedure. He did not conceive it necessary to ht.. ohtaaned by corrupt meet's, should be I'o,i-felted.
'go very largely into the case. There wd et least attempted. That was not the
were but two . This heha
points' on which he thought it necessary to dilate: time tO dilieulis the clatises in the Bill ; but he trusted. r
41142 'first, he would ask how lie mme to the Bar ? , the Noble Lord would do jiletiee to hieintentleoe,—
. :Here Mr. WHITZREAIi spoke to order; Suppo3-a Hi then spoke of the provisions contained. in the
14 he (the Hon. baronet) meant to conclude by Bill' for the Chief MegiStratee. ' The Noble Lord
moving, that the General should be discharged, with had spoken of the propriety, of inserting seine, pro-
a view of saving time,' 'he rose to hiquire of the visions to guard against. the sale of seats in Perliaat.
he Bill came MI6 a e
Speaker if such a procedure could be allowed ?' Mena_ Ween t
.. ouuu%ittee,
- Sir THOMAS Melva replied; that he- nit only lett
the 'Nolele Lord would value every provision
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intended moving that the'Geiteral should be' liberate Could be inserted, he would consider it iogiartatily
ed, but that-a • . ' With hitu. Art Hop. Gentleman (Mr, Creevey)
. - - had stated that he ktiew much of the abuses which
Hero the &jean said lie could net Matte ties existed stated
I disposel f• . in la la i!. P
in t ,e Q
.licitii ar lament. „,: rout
motions at once. :
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the situation he held formerly, he Might speak, trom
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Sir I'. .TURTON proceede to estplaiia Why be his own anaietedge ; Waite (the Chaticelieref the
meant to move that the Goleta" should he chi, ,
ticheqaer) did not know that the Admiaisaretien '
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charged.
- ' to which, be had the ,liaineur to belting had ever been
VIC SPEAKER observed that could not be done , ,
roved to have ha iii ai any spepitie"abui-e of
without a petition from the party.
]tat nature. He rtineitibeNd when an at teniaa Was
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Sir T. 'Nee-cite then ,adduced as a' precedent the made of this kind `udder a fanner Adriantstratign,
Giese of -43ir. Jobe a Harroaneewho in the reign of , that an ineeiry heti heen made inter a ceetein.Haipp-
Charles 11. connuauded in the fleet under the Duke , .
shire Elepioe, butliteraellicoeldtiot tereereber that
Of York, to whom a message. was stint by one from the Hon. Gentleman then stated all this. He diet
the Doke, which message tie stated he did. not re-, not then erne lbrward to say, that what was calledceive, but in the sattuaday. made a contrary state- ea appeal to the people was in faCt' but an appeal to
meat. For this he was confined, but shertive days. . the Treasury. 'He would put it to him, why did lie
the House beano'', opinion he had not, wilfully pre not then speak what he knew), r Why not then give._
vuricated, discharged him- „He thought the order
,the information
he was possessed of? And it he
ol' march .1 en appeared to contain somethiog like had any. charges to rn ike of that nature rigeinst ,the
a provision tar such cases, , When an innocent man . present Administration, why did he not Wang, the*
.was dommitied to Newgate, he never would be , forward.? ...
brought to Petitien, as he fiat himself 40 be injured. ' Mr. CRKEII.EY in explanation saidethat ,heilinew,
He thought the House could &spouse with a role 1 but not _confidentially, .soch praCtices .existed... Hada=
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which appeared to hits) to be right._ . Oat impute them eacluaively to any pareioulee Ad-
. Tbe aeaeatta Said, he thus either prove 1 cell! wini,ttoup,. ,

We thiiday give Copies of the three Decrees in
fctvotir of our Commerce with Spain, to which wio
alluded In our, ,publication of yestet day.

THREE DEOREi3' IN FAVOUR OF TIEE COMMORCII OF

GREAT BRITAIN.

t. Irteonsequence of urgent instances of the Mi..
sister of his Britannic Majesty, the Suprettre Cen--
tral and Governing. Jettita of the Kingdom, and in
the royal' names of his Majesty Ferdinand the
Seventh,. commands, that in this Custom-house,
and in all the
.privileged Custotn-houses of this
Province, .English goods shall he admitted without
any limits or re. trillion, and that the duty shall,
be paid for the same at the rates only at .which they.
were charged before the war in 1804. By order Of
"his Majestyohis notification,is made to your Excel-
lency, both lOr imm Oration and observance of-the
same. May God preserve you many years.
• . (Signed) - SAAIreEntA,.
‘7O. (goy.

order that, in the existing circumstances, all
impediments may be as much as.passible removed,
which interrupt the intercourse with English ships,
and induced, by: repeated applications of the Mini.
titer of his Britannic Majestyo he same, Supreme Con,
tral and'Cbveroing Junta; &c. has, determined to
permit all English goods disembarked...in
,our ports,
which may not be sold in 'the country, to be re-ex-
ported on the payment only of s 3 pQr cent. and no
fat titer dui '4l attrril case,- to be fequirrti.. By
order et his 41jestv; this notification is made, &c,
(ta ante.).

SAAVETAA•