The Sun.
London, England, 1814-05-13 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

-Mr. HART DAVIES presented • a Petition from
the -Merchants of Bristol. praying that the prac-
tice of impressing Chief Mates from vessels above.
50 tons burthen be disallowed.—Ordered to lie on
the table, t

Mr. JOHN SMITH- moved the second reading of
Ake Colitcn-laneßrewery UHL

Mr. LIA'avEY opposed the progress of this Bill,
and 'contended, that the Company Was not a legal
Company; bat, o❑ the contrary, that this, and
all similar institutions amongst individuals, ought
to he considered as pubiic nuisances, tending, to
encourage monopoly, withont produCing Tiny pub-
lic benefit.—He concluded by 'moving, that in.;
stead of now, the Bill be read again this day six
months.

Mr. J. SMITH replied.
The SoLICITOR-GENERAL entered at much
length into arguments to prove that the • Bill
ought to be .thrown out. He considered it only
as an attempt to enable the parties concerned to
,
go cm upon the principle on whkh they had coin-
tnenced their, undertaking, pint to -sanction them
for not paying their debt. He contended that the
Establishment was one which' was productive .of
no public benefit. The motion for the second
reading was then negatived, and the amendment
carried.

,On the Moticin of Mr. ROSE, the Committee on
the -Convoy Bill was postponed till to-morrow.

UN PRODUCED P:iPt 11S

The CHANCELLOR of the -,EXCHEQUER movgd,
that the dropped Orderot yesterday he read, tor
the purpose of po,tpon,tug matiy of thud as
possible ; oft which
S r JOHN NeWPORT wished to ask a Right Ho,
wittralite tientlealau opposite,
ivvoy the Papers 0r.,.

dered by that House, tipv-ards -fortnight ago,
had not been brought forwa►'d ? They were those
relltive to the fees received iu the different Courts
of Justice.

Mr. ADDINGTON answered; that Ithe delay. had
arisen from the circumstance of ,the Messenger
being informed that that description- of Urger of
the House did not apply to the ~..'ice of the SQ-
cretary of State for Ale Home Department. There
was the best authority for this fact; and the
• senger was in consequence referred to the Master.
of the Crown Office, tviin, it seemed, had hesi-
tated to comply with the, orders.
Sir JOAN isit,..wPoßT contended, that.the orders
were not of that nature which could be constitu-
tionally transmittcd-backwards and torwarck. if
such a procepis were to Let. into use, it would be
impossible for. the business of that House to be
itransacted. It was nearly six weeks since' the
orders were issued, and the Papers were not
forthcoming, because 'a Secretary of State had
I thought than the application to his Offiee was
regular. In the mean time, those from Ireland
and Scotland had becu.sent ; and if . there, really
were any thin., informal in the application, a rule
should be laid.down for the future guidance of the
i House, nod 'conformed to.
t Mr. W 1 NNE insisted that the Secretary of
State's Office for the Home Department was the
. regular 'channel for whatever relates to ebe in-
, ternaladministration of the country, and instanced
the compliance ••vith similar. orders of the, House
I front. that quarter, at the time he was in office.
The present neglect was, in his .opinion, a mat-
I ter of
,g;::-..•at importance.:

The.SP' FAKER said:, the facts of the case,ap-
:peared to be as follow : when orders are made by
-t the House, they are sent to those quarters where
it is expected they ought to. be executed : but
%%4ft:re certain orders should be sent, seemed to be

a‘point not so well understood as it ought t 9 be.
The• House had the practical information, :that in
matters of finance all orders were carried. by the
Seijeant at Arms-to the Treasury, flow. whence
they were forwarded to the different departments
the- related. But ±t st'e:►iedl also to be
thought, that other orders, if carried to the °thee
of the Secritary of State, ought, in like manner, to
be forw,arded. The messenger who conveyed thi-
.ther- the orders in question, was told to carry them
to the Cle'rk of tITe Crown, in the King's i Bench
Office'. He took them accordi;lgly, and he (the
Speaker) had heard with astonishment, that this
person, no doubt through a want of information
On his part, had refused at first to ol•.ey them. At
last, however, becoming alarmed, he had begun to

make inquiry as to how was to circulate: them.
This delay certainly rendered, it necessary to put
the execution of ihe 01 tiers of the Ilouse upon
some regular footing. It was evident that the
House, upon its own authority, stood in no need
of such facilities ; but if the orders were not pulle-
t

tually and immediately executed, innocent per-
sons :night replaced in the unpleasant predica►nent
of being brought before the House for contempt
or disobedience. On the whole, however, he
thought it would be expedient to let the matter
rest as it is for a few clays; when the House might
decide whether it would be best to take the execu-
tion of its orders upon itself. If this mimic: were
adopted, cowies might arise in which it would be
difficult to find a sufc►ent number of persons pro-
perly qualified to go into parts on such missions.
t all events, though the douse were notin a con-

dition to decide upon the question at the present
moment, yet in a few day's some mode might be
devised, which, by4efiving- the final authority of
the House untouched, may nevertheless enable it to
carry its orders into effectual execution.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL merely wished to
state, tilaeHt he returns were in a fair way of being
soon produced, and he trusted that no practical
inconvenience ‘.ould result from the orders not
having been put in. a course of immediate execu-

_ . . .
tiont. We understood the Right Hon. Gentleman
to add, that it would be saen that no increase of
tees had taken, place ; but he could not be dis-
tinctly heard.'

-Mr. ADDINGTON IrliStCd that it would ,not be
supposed that there had been the.leastreluctance
in the office of his department to promote the
execution of the orders.

, .
. , \
Mr. PortsoNßY spoke at sonic lenqth, to chew
that the execution of its own Orders by the House
would be' attended with a great pithiie expellee,
from the number .of persons that Must be em-
ployed.
_ _ _

The conversation was- continued for some time
between Messrs. Bathurst, Wynne, Gdulhurn,
Sir J;Newport,*and Sir A. Pigott.

At length the SPEA-iwt said, it was of conSe-
(pence, for the llouse not to lose sight of so int=
portant a subject ; but at present it would,be ad-
"visable to,pass on to the Orders" of the Day.