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London, England, 1831-07-22 00:00:00

CASE OF MR. BINGHAM BARING.

Colonel EVANS rose, for the purpose of bringing for-
ward the motion of which he bad given notice, and he
meant to do eo with the greatest brevity. He had taken

lip tlie matter from a sense of duty, and not from a desire
to attack any individual. It was not, indeed, a c.t,e that
concerned individuals, but the exercise of magisterial au-

thority. He knew nothing of the subject hilt what he
had learnt from the public papers ; and all he wished the
House to grant was information. He wished to have the
information that was laid before the magistrates of Winches-
ter, which led to taking up Mr. and Mrs. Deacle six miles
from Winchester. He wished for the depositions on which
the warrants had been made out, and which four or
five Magistrates attended to carry into execution. The
only documents from which he derived his information was
an authorised statement in the public Papers of the trial,
and an ex-parte defence which bad been published by Mr.
Bingham Baring. Ile was not disposed to enter into dis-
cussion, but merely to ask for information. He would
show what was the character of the person arrested by
quoting the evidence of Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers was a
Clergyman, and he stated " that he had known the plaintiff
several years, and bad seen the testimonials he had received
at College ; his father was a most respectable man." He
would also quote a short passage from the summing up of
the Judge. " His Lordship could not help remarking that
the handcuffing was, to say the least of it, a very harsh
proceeding towards a lady and gentleman who had been
perfectly civil and quiet, and had offered no resistance, and
whose station in life was that of a gentleman—the son of a
Clergyman of the Church of England." He had read
these things with sorrow, and he was obliged to say that
his sorrow was not much assuaged by the defence which
had been published. Mr. B. Baring had admitted " that
no attempt at escape was at any time made by Mr. Deacle ;
and though the state of the country rendered caution neces •
nary, his conduct throughout was orderly and subtitle-
sive." Yet this gentleman (who was quiet, orderly, and
submissive) and his wife were taken away with un-
wonted violence, and a verdict was given in their favour.
Mr. Bingham Baring said, " I come now to the ma-
terial parts of the charges against me, which arc sub-
atantiall) three. Ist, That I ordered the constable to
hand-bolt the prisoners ; 2d, That I dragged Mrs. Deacle
personally by the body, her head hanging on one side of me
and her feet on the other, through te mud to the cart ;
and 3d, that I struck Mr. Deacle while in the cart, on the
road to Winchester." Excepting the blow, Mr. Baring
denied the charge, and proposed to prove his statement,
but he bad not given any reason to satisfy the public that

he should be able to deny having given tlie blow. This
trial had created a strong ferment _in that part of the

county where it had occurred, and the House should, he
thought, inquire into this abuse of magisterial authority.
In London, also, this trial had excited a considerable feel-
ing. Two trials had taken place, and no evidence had
been adduced on the first against the Deacles. If the
papers far which he moved should remove the impression
he at present entertained, he should be very glad ; if they
did not, he should think it necessary to follow up his mo-
tion by moving an humble address to his Majesty to remove
Mr. B. Baring from the Commission. The Hon. Member
concluded by an address to his Majesty, for a copy of the
indict:rent in the prosecution against Mr. and Mrs.
Deacle; also, a copy of the record in the cause Deacle
versus Bingham Baring, with the result thereof, respec-
tively, as the same were tried at Winchester; also for
copies of the Judges' notes taken upon these trials.

'Mr. F. BARING was understood to second the motion.
The Hon. Member spoke from under the gallery, and was
imperfectly beard. He was supposed to say, that the cha-
racter of a gentleman was at stake, and he was gratified
at the opportunity of meeting the accusation. The Hon.
Member had referred to the indignation excited by the
statements in the public Papers, and certainly these state-
ments were calculated to excite indignation, and the in.
dignation would be perfectly justified if the facts were as
stated in the public Papers. In making the House
acquainted with the real facts of the case, he would beg
leave to recall to the attention of the House to the state of

the country in which the transaction occurred. In the
month of November there was a great disturbance in
Hampshire. He himself was called from another and a
peaceable part of the country to a scene of riot and dis.
order. At that time the whole country was full of mobs,
and different classes of people were going about in great
numbers within a few miles of Winchester. The Hon.
Member read a list of several mobs of 700, of 1,000, of 100,

of 400, and of 600, which were going about on the days
immediately preceding the day on which Mr. Deacle was
arrested. That would show the House the state of the
county of Hants at that time. A general panic
prevailed, and it was stated that it was necessary
to act with energy ; that it was necessary that the
police of the county should be diligent and exceed-
ingly watchful. He wished also to remind the House
of what was said at that time of the Magistrates
They were accused of negligence—of not personally
appearing, to carry into execution the necessary measures,
and they were warned not to shun their duties.—(Hear.)
If they acted firmly they were told they could repress the
riots, whereas, if they avoided encountering them, they
would only encourage disorder. He would then read to
the House the deposition on which the warrants against
Mr. and Mrs. Deacle had been issued. The Hon. Member
accordingly read the deposition of the bailiff of the Earl of
Northesk, describing the proceedings of a large snob of up-
wards of 300 persons, who came to his house on the 23d
of November, and extorted Irons him a considerable suns of
money, and destroyed a winnowing machine. In the midst
of the crowd, when at a small distance, he saw a female
on horseback, and he was told that it was Mrs. Deacle.
It was also said the witness deposed that Mr. Deacle was
there. The female looked on while the mob was breaking
the machine ; she eame with the snob, and went away
with the snob. The Hon. Member then proceeded to
quote the deposition of Mr. Francis Wright Clerk, one of
the defendants. He said, this gentleman deposed to
having seen a mob on the 23d, with a lady on horse-
back in the midst of them. This party extorted money
to the amount, as one of the men informed him, of 101.,
and the lady was riding in front of them. A person told
him that this lady was Mrs. Deacle. One of the party
asked him for 20s. The lady, we understood, asked him
if there were any soldiers in the neighbourhood. There
were two parties, and Mrs. Deacle rode from one to
another. He had this conversation with her, but no more.
The lion. Member then said, he bad another paper,
which was not the original deposition, but a copy, which
he believed was correct, and would read to the House.
The Hon. Member then read another deposition, of a per-
0R whose name we could not catch, in which it was stated
that Mr. Deacle was with the mob on the 24th of Nov.,
when they collected money ; that he stopped behind in a
lane while the mob went forward, at one place, to a
farmer's house ; and that Mrs. Deacle was also present. In
another deposition which the Hon. Member read, it was
stated that Deacle was present with Boyce and others when
the mob broke machines and demanded money, and that a
woman was there riding backwards and forwards on horse-
back, whom be believed to be Mrs. Deacle. Having thus stated
the subject of the depositions made before the Magistrates,
it might be also necessary to say, that there was a great
deal of oral evidence to the same effect, which of course
had its influence on the minds of the Magistrates who
signed the warrant for arresting the Deacles. Of these
Magistrates, however, he himself was .not one. He was
merely a party with some of his friends concerned in the
execution of it. He had, however, thought it right to
trouble them by reading the depositions at length, in
order that the House might comprehend under what
impressions the Magistrates proceeded to execute the
hesetheyperhasoillis,, and whether it could
be
fairly
grossly
out-stepped the
bounds of their duty, invaded the privacy of domestic
life, and wantonly insulted a modest and retiring woman,
warrantiy against
said
that
when it became necessary to take legal notice of the pro.
reeding, of a person, who employed the influence of her
„x and the power of her station to ruin the poor and the
ignorant who lived in her immediate neighbourhood.—
(Heir, hear.) A good deal had been said of the station of
the Deacles.—(Hear, hear.) lie was willing to allow
that they were much above the ordinary condition of the
farmers in that part of the country; be was quite willing
to admit that their station was much above the class of

throe who bad been charged with the proceedings which
ss ere unhappily at that time going on in this part of the
county. He had seen, with pain and with sorrow, the
ignorant and deluded labourer 'guilty of acts which re-
quired the immediate interposition of the strong arm of
the law ; hut when he found a person like Mr. Deacle, a
man above the common rank of farmers, employing his in-
fluence to continue the offences of which the poor labourers
had been guilty—inciting them to frame-breaking, en-
couraging them to demand the reduction area and tithes,
and accompanying them to demand money, hut stopping
at the end of the lanes while his assistants went forward
to the houses—(Hear, hear)—when he saw all this, he
thought that such a person was deserving of the immediate
attention of the Magistracy, and that it was a matter of
policy as much as of justice to remove him from the scene
of his offences, and to make him amenable as speedily as
possible at the bar of public justice.—(Hear, hear.)
That was the feeling of the Magistracy. It was with
that view the arrest took place under the circum-
stances which have been described; and he was
bound to say, that after the execution of the warrant
against the Deacles, they heard no more of any
outrages in that part of the country.—(Loud cheers.)
He might here observe, with respect to the facts stated
in the depositions, that it was of no consequence whether
they were or were not afterwards fully borne out on the
trials. They were stated on oath in the informations be-
fore the Magistrates, and on that they were bound to act,
and to apprehend the accused.—(Hear, hear.) He now
proceeded to the three charges which were preferred against
his relation and the other Magistrates, and which formed
the subject of the evidence on the trial. The warrant
was put into the hand, of a constable named Lewington,
who professed to be acquainted with the persons of the
accused ; and he (Mr. Baring) might here say, tkat he
believed it was the very first arrest in that part of the
country which had been up to that time attempted
without the assistance of the military.—(Hear, hear.)
On the trial this person is represented to have said, that
he told the Magistrate be required no assistance, and that
he was not aware of the intention of the gentlemen to
accompany him. Now, he (Mr. Baring) could state on
his oatim, that Lewington told him Mr. Deacle was not a
person to he taken easily.—(Hear.) The words were so
remarkable, that they made an impression on his mind,
anti he was positive on the point that they were used. He
asked Lewington what he meant by that--did he mean to
say that Deacle would resist ? And Lewington answered,
that he believed lie would ; and that he must have assist-
ance.—(Hear.) He (Mr. Baring) then told Lewington
that a party of gentlemen would accompany him, and de-
sired him to get a light spring cart for the purpose of con-
veying the prisoners to Winchester. With regard to this
cart, of which so much has been said, it was obvious that
any other and speedier method of conveyance would have
been more agreeable to those who had such a disagreeable
duty to perform ; but they conceived that in that part of the
country, which, it should be understoood, is rather wild
and retired, no other conveyance could have well escaped
notice. —(Hear, hear.) He was convinced, indeed, that
if they attempted to bring the prisoners away from their
own house in a post-chaise, the horses would have been
surrounded and the signals spread, that the whole popu-
lation would have been up in arms, and that it would have
been impossible to avoid the risk of a rescue.—(Hear,
hear.) It was but the day before the execution of this
warrant that a military extort was necessary to convey the
prisoners from Romney to Winchester ; and be begged
again to observe, that no warrant had been executed before
without the assistance of the military.—(Bear, hear.)
He thought it right also to remind the House, before he
proceeded further, that he stood before them in some mea-
sure as a witness in favour of his relation, Mr. Bingham
Baring, who had been so much censured for the part he
took in those transactions, and whose conduct he might
add, hail been so grossly calumaiated.—(Hear, hear.) He
proceeded now to speak more distinctly of the three charges
brought against his 'elation, and he was entitled to do so
with more confidence, as he himself had been acquitted of
all participation in them by the verdict of a Jury.—
In the first place, then, the constable, Lewington, swore
on that trial, that Mr. Bingham Baring rode up, came
into the house, and said, " Constable, do your duty ; hand-
bolt them ;" and he added that he (Mr. F. Baring)
and another gentleman, were present at the same time.
It should he here observed, that he did not intend to enter
minutely into all the evidence in his possession, because, if
he was to state all the facts, he might surrender all
chance of justice which was yet left to his relation in
a future examination of the case.—(Hear.) He was
ready now, however, to say most distinctly, that Mr. B.
Baring did not enter the room as the constable stated—
(Cheers)—that no words such as those mentioned could
have been used by Mr. B. Baring, and that it was impos-
sible he could have given such an order as the witness de-
scribed, because be had not even seen the Deacles until
after they were confined with the hand-bolts and released.
—(Hear, hear.) The person who gave the order he
would not at that moment mention, nor say more than
that he accompanied them to identify the prisoner. After
the handcuffs were removed, and when Deacle was taken
to the cart, it was sworn that Mr. Bingham Baring caught I
Mrs. Deacle in his arms and dragged her through the mud,
with her head and feet hanging close to the ground. Now
he (Mr. F. Baring) was ready to state on his oath that
the constable was totally mistaken with respect to this part
of the case.—( Hear.) He was himself the person who
carried Mrs. Deacle, and he would state now the whole of
the circumstances connected with that part of the transac-
tion. They had waited some time for Mrs. Deacle's bon-
net aed cloak, but on finding that Mr. Deacle had been
taken to the cart he offered his hand to Mrs. Deacle, and
prepared t,, follow Mr. Bingham Baring, having accom-
panied those who were with Mr. Deacle. Mrs. Deacle,
on the way, complained of the mud through which it was
necessary to pass, and he offered to lift her over a part of
the path which, as it is usual in farm-yards, was wet and
dirty.—(Hear, and a laugh.) He was almost ashamed
to enter into such details.—(Hear, hear.) The lady said
she was afraid he would find her very heavy..--(Hear, and
a laugh.) He told her, he did not recollect in what terms,
that he believed he should be able to carry her in safety ;
and he then took her in his arms in the least familiar
manner that was possible, and carried her, with all the
respect due to her sex and station, about half a dozen
paces, and then led her to the cart.—(Hear, hear.)
On the way the servant joined them with Mrs. Deacle's
bonnet and cloak, and she was then placed in the ve-
hicle. This fact he could prove on time oaths of the
whole of those gentlemen who had been made co-
defendants with him in the action; and, as he thought he
had satisfied time House that the constable was utterly mis-
taken with respect to persons, he might perhaps be allowed
to suppose that he was a little mistaken with respect to
the manner in which he represented Mrs. Deacle to have
been treated.—(Cheers.) He now came to another por-
tion of the case. Mrs. Deacle, it was true, did complain
of time vehicle in which she was to be conveyed, and of the
difficulty of getting into it, and he (Mr. Baring) offered
her his knee as a step when she ascended. It should be
observed that Mr. B. Baring was present at this time, but
that he took no part in the arrangements. He came now
to the question raised on the refusal of the horse to Mrs.
Deacle. It should be recollected that when they reached the
house of Mrs. Deacle, they found a man at the door with a
gun in his hand, and that Mr. Baring took it from him ;
knowing this, and sensible that the people in the neigh-
bourhood were in a state of great excitement, and having seen
several persons lum king about, they were naturally anxious,
under the peculiar circumstances of time case, to get their
prisoners away as quietly as possible; and when it is con-
sidered that they must have•waited till this horse was sent
for and saddled, with all the chances of the neighkourbood
being raised in the mean time, it will not excite surprise
that they did not think themselves justified in allowing
such a delay.—(Hear.) The horse was therefore re-
fused ; but he could say, on his oath, not harshly or offen-
sively.—(Hear.) Front all they had seen, amid from their
experience of the state of the country, they felt that if a
rescue was attempted it would probably occasion much
bloodshed, and they therefore thought, as Magistrates en-
trusted with the execution of an important duty, that it
was not a time to listen to small and unimportant objec-
tions.—(Cheers.) It was said, however, he admitted that
Mrs. Deacle was an invalid, and nut strong enough to bear
the motion of the cart. The circumstances of which he
spoke took place at two o'clock in the day, and when they
called to mind the fact sworn to in the depositions that this
lady had been at four o'clock on time preceding day riding
at time head of a body of labourers and smiling on them
while they were engaged in the offence of machine break-
ing,n he thought they might be pardoned for believing that
she could not be in such a state of bodily weakness and ill-
health as was then repm esented to them. The vehicle
was a light market cart,
'Ai Deacle
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tnitieenrst
she dnirdo ,f
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ow
the
arr of
fur a rescue.
They had passed on time road a servant of Deacle's, who
had set out before them, and at one part of it they saw
three men standing with a gate unimung, which, if they
had thrown in their way, would have completely obstructed
them for a time, and in the then agitated state of the
country they might not unreasonably expect an attempt at
rescue, particularly as the road went round a village, from
which even a
small
ob-
structed their pa
timer a quick pace, but that it was not at any violent rate
d by the fact that the two constables wl.o were
ai;e. number
T The
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did easily
g o on liav
a et
r-
was prove
on foot kept up with them without any difficulty.—(Hear,

Lear.) But when they acme to the open road, they went ,
at a slower pace, and there they obtained a post-chaise, in
which the prisoners were conveyed to Winchester. As to
the alleged blow by Mr. 13inghato Baring, he was not able
to speak farther than this, that he saw nothing of it.
There was, however, a gentleman present who could state
that he saw Mr. Deacle raise his hand to catch hold of the
reins, and Mr. Bingham Baring at the same time raised
his stick, and touching him gently with it, said " Let the
reins alone, Sir ;" but this gentleman was made a co-de-
fendant, and of course had no opportunity of stating the
fact on the trial ; but for his part he (Mr. F. Baring) saw
no blow, or anything like a blow, or any temper that
evinced even the slightest disposition to inflict a blow on
the part of Mr. B. Baring.—(Hear, hear.) He might
also add, that on his way to Winchester he spoke frequently
to Mr. Deacle, and he never made any complaint that he
had received a blow. —(Hear, hear.) Nor did he (Mr.
F. Baring) ever hear anything on that subject until he re-
ceived a letter frow. the attorney for the plaintiff, stating
that he was going to bring an action. Having stated thus
much of matters which had come within his own know-
ledge, he would ask, was the evidence of the constable
sufficient to warrant such a colour as had been given to
the whole transaction ? He (Mr. F. Baring) had given
his statement of the facts exactly as they occurred, with
only the exception that he might, as he had said, go into
more minute details, as to many minor particulars, but he
did not think it would be fair to his friend to put other
parties in possession of matters that had better be
brought forward before the tribunal which may have to
investigate them. He now begged to thank the
House for the patience with which it had heard
him, and to express his gratitude to the Honourable
Member who brought forward this motion for the
opportunity he had given him of appearing before the
House as a witness in behalf of his friend and relation.
He had been reared up with his Hon. Friend for years,
and he knew him, and from his intimate knowledge of his
disposition and habits, he would say that he was the last
man in the world who would be capable of such conduct
as bad been imputed to him in this instance.—(An Hon•
Member here intimated a desire to know why Mr. Deane
had not been examined at the trial ?) He was glad of
the opportunity which the Hon. Member had given him
of noticing that fact, which would otherwise have eseaped
his attention. Mr. Deane was not examined. He saw
no blow given; and even if it had been, he could not have
seen it, for he almost immediately left the cart when the
prisoners got in, and went on to Winchester to order a
post-chaise. He could not, therefore, be called upon to
disprove an alleged fact of which he could have no know-
ledge.
But the House were aware that Counsel sometimes,
looking to the effect of a powerful reply, were apt to
throw a witness overboard. If the same investigation
were to be gone into again, there was not an individual in
any way connected with the transaction, whom he and
Mr. Bingham Baring would not be most ready to put into
the witness box. But the misfortune of the case was,
that all the principal parties who could speak to the facts
as they occurred at Deacle's house and ou the road, were
made defendants, and thus precluded from making the
case known as it occurred. The Hon. Member concludes
by again thanking the House for the patience with which
it had heard him.

Mr. Serjeant WILDE, having beenengaged in assisting •
the Attorney-General in conducting the prosecutions at
the late special commission in Hampshire, hoped he should
be excused if he stated a few of the circumstances which
had come to his knowledge as some of the matters con-
nected with this charge. Of the manner in which the
warrant in this case was executed lee knew nothing, but
probably something might be inferred as to that mat'er
from the circumstances he was about to state. It had
become a part of his duty to investigate the information§
that had been prepared, in order to ascertain who were the
instigators of the proceedings for which so many were t°
be placed on their trial. In the course of those investi-
gations, he found that a certain number of farmers had met
together and drawn up a paper addressed to landlords and
clergymen, for the purpose of inducing them to lower their
rents and tithes. At this meeting there were several
whose names were stated, and amongst others this Mr.
Deacle and a man named Boyce. Soon after this, some of •
the same parties met again, attended by a consideralde
number of labourers, who pressed others to join ; so that
,
at last, they became formidable in numbers, and proceeded
to the houses of several gentlemen in the neighbour'
hood, at first insisting that the paper for lowering
rents and tithes should be signed, then demandn
money, and also destroying machinery. A part
kind, amounting to 400 or 600, went to the
Miss Long, armed with hammers, hatchets, clubs, a
nd
other kinds of weapons, and one of the persons in the
crowd called out that the paper should be signed. The
lady having signed it, Boyce (or Boys,) who was present'
retired to the rear of the crowd where Deacle was waiting.
Boyce was a farmer in independent circumstances. The
mob then demanded 151., but went away after having oh'
tamed Si. From that place they went about destroyiug,
house of
t h gf
machinery, and obtaining money by threats of violence to
several places. Having found that some of the farmer°
had set the example of breaking their own machinery, thet
labourers felt themselve justified as it were in going taboo,
to destroy the machinery of others, and there was no doulu
that but for the encouragement they had received fro°
the farmers, they would never have proceeded to such er
treme acts of violence. Boyce, who took so prominent .s
part in the proceedings, was tried, and acquitted, as much
to his astonishment as he believed it was to that of evert
man who heard the evidence. He had every respect fue
the jury who tried him, but he owned he was not able t°
account fur the acquittal, except it were that it was pro.
duced in a great degree by sympathy for the state of liie
in which he was placed. Finding the acquittal,
wrote to the Attorney-General, who was in the other
court, stating the fact of the acquittal, and stated his opt'
nion, that a man whom he believed to have been mainlY
instrumental in fomenting much of the riot and die
order which bad occurred in the county should not De
allowed to escape, as there were other indietment6
against him. In this the Attorney-General coneurrA
and by his advice, Boyce was brousht before another
jury at the other Court, and on nearly the same evidence'
but applying to another cave, was convicted,--not, boo"
ever, of the capital charge, for he escaped that by a tare
technicality, as Miss Long, the lady from whom the tu°'
ney was taken, did not see him at the moment it was give°
by her butler. He was, however, sentenced to trove
portation. Looking at the informations against Deacl'
at his station in life, and the part he was described t°
have taken in these proceedings, he thought that he ough,
to be prosecuted, and in this the Attorney• General cod
eurred ; and as the prosecution was intended, he toe
great caution in examining witneses in other cases in order
to prevent the name of the Deacles from transpiring, .tlm
their case might be in no way prejudiced : that the pro§e'
cution had not been gone into, he could only attribute ta.
the speedy pacification of the county which followed the
first steps taken to bring the guilty parties to justice, shj,
this was in a great degree owing to the prompt and vet
gorous exertions of those very gentlemen whose conch
)
formed the subject of the present disettssion.—(Cheerd"
Indeed, he would say that the sudden restoration of the
quiet of that part of the country was almost miraculous'
o
If there was any harshness in the steps taken by they I
active Magistrates in the execution of their duty, be shoh,ij
regret it. Of that he knew nothing ; but this he
know, that the case was one which required prompt siPe,
vigorous exertion. Whether they had exceeded the str
ld
bounds of law, he could not state ; but this he cud,,4
state, that as all the parties who were made defend
were men of ample fortune, sufficient damages ccuo
have been recovered from any one ; and if truth tie
~„
the object, they would not have been joined as rot
defendants. But those in the profession knew °tit
where parties were thus joined, and all evidence 1.13 e
out, the case could be only considered as exports. ,ts
parties were in some respect taken by eurptise as to 1)11,e
of the evidence; and if that should be made out to to
satisfaction of the superior Court, a new trial might 0
given : it would then be better to wait until that
known before the House proceeded any farther with t
case. As to calling for the notes of the Judge, he did
suppose the House would be ready to accede to it. ot
were the Judge's private notes, and there would be g'e,,e
difficulty in producing them. As this was not a
where a party was selected for any private motives, evtebe
allowance should be nude fCli those who acted i°
' it
honest discharge of their duty. Another objection to tof
motion was, the effect it might have on any future act °1
Magistrates. If ever any similar circumstances shfbat
occur, which be hoped would not be the case, be trusted Ich
Magistrates, instead of being warned by the obloquy sr ve
had been thrown on these gentlemen, should rather i it
stimulated to carry into force the law, which, whitepc
commanded respect, also inspired terror. He hoped Aid
Magistrates would not he deteered from doing then doll'
by the tnisrepresentations that had gone forth in this adt
In conclusion, the Hon. and Learned Gentleman observer
that though he regretted that the lady in this case tt7io
have been lifted over the mud, or carried to the cart, °,OO
it, a little more quickly than was agreeable, still by rand
say that lie was glad that the result of these pror°P,too'
active steps in apprehending those against whom jai'
ults,
tions were laid, had succeeded in putting down ti
which, though they had not been unattended with loss tiert
might have been attended with a still greater lose, 01
, they had not been so, they owel to the great act.

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those very gentlemen whose conduct was so very, in his
opinion, unjustly impugned.
An Hots. MEassEn bore testimony to the great activity
of Mr. B. Baring in endeavouring to suppress the riots
that had taken place in the county. On one occasion, at
great personal risk, he went into the midst of a large and
riotous mob, and was the means not only of dispersing it,
but of bringing many of the most active of the rioters to
justice.
. Mr. HINE said, it was impossible for him to remain
silent, after hearing the speech just delivered by his Hon.
and Learned Friend (Mr. Wilde.) He would, however,
in the first place, begin by stating, that no lion. Illember
of that House had stood more favourably in his opinion
than Mr. Bingham Baring. Ever since he had known
that gentleman as a Member of the House, he had consi-
eered him as an example of mildness and affability, and
utterly incapable of performing the act with which he had
been charged.—(Hear, hear.) He was not, therefore, dis-
Posed to give credence to the charges made against Mr.
Ringharn Baring ; and had they not been proved by evi-
dence, he never could have believed that that gentleman
had been guilty of one half of the severities alleged to have
been committed by him. He was well aware of the im-
portant and difficult duties which magistrates had to
Perform in times of disorder ; and he thought that no man
ahould allow himself, when the danger was past, to
Judge too severely of their conduct, but should make
some allowance for the circumstances in which they were
Placed.--( Hear, hear.) But he regretted extremely
that his Learned and Hon. Friend (Mr. Wilde). had
given a tone and temper to the debate—(Cries of " Oh,
uh")---vvhich had not been imparted by the preceding
aPeakee. If there was any point more than another re
Lat t g
public),which
his
nia anxiety, lie was sure, was shared by a great portion .of
it was this—how far the magistrates who
Were present at Mrs. Deacitia apprehension conducted
thernselves with proper attention and delicacy towards
her; and whether the severities alleged to have been corn-
'bitted towards that lady were actually committed by
them? He had listened with great attention to the speech
of the Hon. Member for Portsmouth, who, at the con-
clusion of his observation,, stated that he would himself
have afforded assistance to any lady placed in the situation
Witch Mrs. Deacle was, to cross a puddle.—(Laughter,
Qcries of " Question.") He saw the Members plainly
ugh Who were laughing, and lie thought that it would
(;)
cecai them more credit if they refrained from such a pro-
theH He wished to know whether, after
civility which was stated to have been shown Mrs.
Deacle, it was true or not that orders were given to con-
/';,,eY her and her husband away hand•cuffed, and whether
- Was true that Mr. Deacle attempted to take the reins
and drive the cati? He wished that his Honourable
and Learned Friend had given some explanation on these
Paints• He gave his Honourable Friend credit for the
a
e Performance of those duties which he was called upon
to discharge, but he asked him what possible con-
ijai°n there was between the case of Boyce and
Leatle? He had not imagined, before his Hon. and
e4rned Friend acquainted him with the fact, that a man
i,nald be tried in one Court, and, after his acquittal,
randed into another Court, and there again put on his
biel, changing, perhaps, the form of the indictment.
t`rie thought such a proceeding was contrary to the princi-•
saes of the English law.—(No, no.) He understood his
es. and Learned Friend had stated, that Boyce, a far-
Zit", was tried and acquitted at one charge, and that he
thaa, at his Learned Friend's own suggestion, sent to ano-
er Court, and found guilty upon another indictment of
iating•—(Question, question.) He wished to know
W/lether any orders for handcuffing were given ; for such
unduct was inconsistent with the opinion he had formed
I Alr. Bingham Baring's character.—.(Hear.) He had
44 '5 risen to protest against the language used by his Hon.
d Learned Friend, at the conclusion of hi. speech, when
he stated that it was one of the duties of Magistrates to
strike terror into all around them.—(Cries of " No, no.")
lie Was well aware that in times of difficulty Magistrates
were bound to perform their duty firmly, because in such
taws firmness was mercy towards those persons who had
been misled.—(Hear, hear ) He therefore did not dissent
fs
th,nin the observations of his Hon. and Learned Friend
at the Magistrate who hesitated to perform his duty to
11he utmost became a party to the crime.—(Hear.) But
e asked and Learned Gentleman whether we
liaaa
b ss as a country. where a M tgistrate's presence ought to
e a terror to all around him ?—(Cries of " Oh.") Those
were the words of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman.—
h"' n(4) If lie was mistaken, he should be happy to
-correcterl, but he did think that the Hon. and Learned
Gentleman had said that he hoped to see Magistrates
singal' terror on all around them
—(No, no)—on all evil-
cet at
any rate.—(oh.) Ile, however, held, in the
':atin n in which the country was placed the Maaistrate
t uld be resettled as an individual ready to afforrd pro-
41"etn°11 to all,' and not to strike terror, as had been recorn-
doded ; and he had risen to enter his protest against such
snismetrine. Ile should be most happy to find that he had
mierstood the Hon. and Learned Gentleman on this
!r.lt; for he could not but regret that so high a legal
ntnority had recommended Magistrates to adopt a system
d°ifirterror.--(No, no.) He requested any gentleman who
ered from him in opinion to rise and state his aeon.
yenta in a manly manner, and refrain from the disorderly'
interruptionlf of which they had just been guilty.--(Hear.)
he had mistaken the meaning of the Hon. and Learned
-'ember's words, that gentleman, so far from blaming,
6,11(1 feel obliged to him for giving him an opportunity
n explain any thing which was doubtful in his speech.—
tkilear, hear.) He had thought it his duty to ask tor the
4nfurtriation which he had done respecting the case of Mr.
and Mrs. Deacle ; because, if it had not been for the evi-
dence produced at the trial, and the conviction which
htnnk place, his own opinion would have led hint not to
Sire given credence to tire charges made against Mr.
tiltigh tin Baring.—(Hear.)
Mr, CARTER said that the Hon. Member for Mid-
eaex, having, ask.ed for information on two points, he
Wniild endeavour to satisfy the Hon. Member on the first
Pli`)ain.t. One of the charges made against Mr. Bingham
theflog was, that he entered the house of Mr. Deacle, and
an_, 'hint in which that person and his wife were sitting,
I,r'iltgave orders fur putting handcuffs on them. His Hon.
ssowndt Mr. Francis Baring, had met that charge by
rior'?ig that Mr. Bingham Baring was not in the room,
forpm the house of Mrs. Deacle, and could not, there-
-13 ' hay given orders to put the handcuffs on Mr. Deacle
4Atria Deacle._-(Hear, hear.) It was not denied that
_ndnuffa were put on those persons, but if the Hon.
of;rnbber for Middlesex had attended to the circumstances
sooa's trial, he would have seen that Mr. F. Baring, as
their as he Perceived the handcuffs, gave instant orders for
Alta. ra!rn°val and succeeded in extracting the hands of
fact
here
from them, though that not being a material
tiah Tfore the House, Mr. F. Baring had omitted to men-
th, hae matter. It was, however, impossible to remove
ndeuffi from Mr. Deacle, because they were so con-
t.:4 "ed tta to require a key to unlock them, which was
tvaat hand• The fact, therefore, was, that Mrs. Deacle
ese ,o°n as her situation was observed, instantly re-
taoril and that Mr. Deacle, though he had the handcuffs
his 6ne hand, was not thereby incapacitated from using
Altrner, hand to seize the reins.—(Hear, hear.)
414, ' Serteant WILDE felt much obliged to the Hon.
aortnher for Middlesex for giving hint an opportunity of
falkteating an inaccuracy of expression into which he had
for, What he meant to have said, but what he took
L. 5 Canted, from what had fallen from the Hon. 11Iember,
tng,7l not said, was, that when persons in large nutnbers
tare'd in riots, the presence of Magistrates, of men of
Pres and respectability, who could have no interest but to
Ivo:i:le the public peace, was calculated, and he hoped
aria have the effect of striking terror among the violent
attlohdisorrierly, and he ought to have added, and inspire
bearlil'a!, Well-disposed confidence in the laws.—(bear,
Zanr,, . The Hon. Member for -Middlesex inquired whatl•44ol°4 was there betwean the ems of Boyce and
1.1a4:e•. Ile informed the Hon. Member that Boyce and
eon's formed part of the same mob. They were the
roaotiPtties Who prepared the papers which were
carried
Thr r Y men for the landlords and clergymen to sign.
b4d a 550 why • Boyce was tried twice was, because lie
tabb:teinntitted several robberies. He was tried for one
Cry Y and Ilia next trial was founded on another rob-
distior'!Ttinitted at a different time and plaae, and totally
Air,ttrum the first.—(llear.)
11410,4 A. BARING said, that whatever might be Mr.
tlaring•s consciousnesa of his own innocence,—
knight be the kind feeling of his friends towards
ara 'h. and he b. lteved that the Hon. Member for Middle-
all wiad taptessed the • • us opinion entertained by
Peet '° knew Mr. Binigmhaatnn°3arina, respecting Iris clia-
thn,st',r,i4(Cheers)—yet it was a great grievance for him
'la pi before the worid in the light in which he bad
Aerfraced for the last ten days.—(Hear, hear.) They
tai Y Well
area,. knew that the newspapera had the power af
eberav "neinga—(Louil cries of " bear.") No man's
etc uric or
tithe good „pinion of his friends, proved any
be
wY to hitrt against the sland • which, went forth into
bee nrld through • • el. '
Eve,®)
for their instrumentality ; and had it not
, _t•he interference of the Hon. Gentleman (Colonel
had brought this matter forward, in as unob-
.,
atilt
a mode as possible, he did not know whether
the have been •
of r an opportunity of stating the facts
di,24.7 for months to cotne•—(llear, hear.) He need
'4l,e the pains to notice the manner in which this
Cilaar°4 141 been worked up in tire public journals.
'Par-) The persona attacked were the most

inoffensive persons, perhaps, in this great metropolis,
an•l, therefore, that sort of violent persecution which
had been directed towards them was most extraor-

Binary.—(Cheers.) The facts which came out at the
trial were represented in glowing colours; for it was the
evident objet of those who got up this transaction to pro-
duce an effect, and the consequence was, that a great sen-
sation was excited in the public press of this country.—
(Hear, hear.) He admitted that the transactions barely
stated were calculated to excite that feeling which was so
generally expressed. Mr. B. Baring was not at Win-
chester during the trial, nor did any person in that part of
the country think the matter of any importance, until re-
marks of the most astounding nature were made upon it.
—( !fear, hear.) Mr. B. Baring knew nothing as to the
mode in which the case had been conducted until he ob-
served the violent manner in which he was attacked in the
public press.—( Hear, bear.) What did he immediately
do? He said he would go to the country and see in what
manner he could prove his innocence ; but before he was
able to st irt, lie was fallen upon by the whole press of the
metropolis, in a manner which made it impossible for him
not to offer something of a defence without delay.—(Hear,
hear.) Accordingly be made a defence, closely following
the facts as they appeared on the trial ; but what was the
conduct of the press ? Mr. B. Baring had taken the diffe-
rent charges in order, and in the first place stated that lie did
not order the handcuffing of Mrs. Deacle, and proved that it
was impossible for him to have done so, because he was not
in the room. Then, secondly, as to the dragging Mrs. Deacle
through the dirt. He (Mr. A. Baring) admitted, that if
there was any shadow of truth in the charge, that this
woman v=as drag,!ed with her head hawing one way, and
rier heels another,:>Mr. B. Baring eviould be disqualified
from ever again showing his face before his fellow-
countrymen. Bur Mr. B. Baring proved that he was not
there when the woman was taken away; and said,
further, that he would produce the persons who actually
took her.—(Hear.) In the same manner he positively
contradicted every other charge, with the single exception
of the case of the blow, respecting which he should state
something presently. But what was the conduct of the
press, and of the Times newspaper, next day ? They said,
" We do not believe one word of your statement"—(Hear;
hear)—" it is quite impossible to be true," said those great
friends of justice, and they determined that there was not
a tittle of truth in Mr. B. Baring's delence.—(Chrers.)
All that that gentleman asked for was time, and he would ,
engage to prove his statements by evidence; but the
Times replied by stating, that it was all irresponsible
gossip, and not to be believed.—(Hear, hear.) "If these

things were true," said the editors, " why did they
not come out at the trial ?" The reason, Mr. B. Baring
said, was because all the persons capable of proving
the facts were made co-defendants, with the single excep-
tion of Mr. Deane, who, however, could have prayed
nothing, because he was not at the place at the time.
This explanation, however, was culled nothing but an im-
pudent aggravation of his offence, and a fiat denial was
given to the truth of the statement.—(Hear, hear.) He
valued as much as any man the liberty of the press in this
country, and no one was more convinced that they must
put up with all its inconveniences for the benefit which it
conferred.. But when the press was guilty of so touch in-
justice as it had exhibited in the present case, he confessed
that they paid dearly for its advantage.—(Cheers.) He
thought that the House must be convinced by the state-
ment of the Hon. and- Learned Seijeant, and his account
of the disturbed state of the country at the time, with
which Mr. and Mrs. Deacle were concerned, that there
were just grounds for arresting them, especially when it
was seen that their apprehension put a stop to the disturb-
ances.—(Hear, hear.) If those parties had not been ar-
rested, the Magistrates might then have been accused of
neglecting their duty from cowardice.—(HeL:r, hear.)
Undoubtedly, the justice of the arrest, and the mode of
executing it, were two different things.. He n•ould not go
again over the charges, of ordering`the handcuffing, and of
dragging the lady through the mud, becau,e, as he had
before stated, Mr. B. Baring was not present at those
transactions. (Hear, hear.) He would only read one part
of Mr. Wright's deposition. The house where Mr. and
Mrs. Deacle were apprehended was a farm-house. Mr.
Wright went into the parlour where Mr. and Mrs. Deacle
were sitting, while Mr. B. Baring proceeded to the
kitchen, where he saw a man armed with a gun, and ob-
served several other fire-arms in the same place. Mr. B.
Baring occupied himself in securing these arms and in wet-
ting the powder, and Mr. Wright said that he went into
the parlour, where Mr. and Mrs. Deacle were handcuffed;
he stated that Mr. B. Baring gave no orders for the hand-
cuffs to be put on, nor did he see Mr. B. Baring enter the
room.—(hear, bear.) Nothing was so absurd as the at-
tempt to fix the order to handcuff Mrs. Deacle on Mr. B.
Baring. It had already been proved that his Hon. Rela-
tive (Mr. F. Baring) had released 'Mrs. Deacle from the

, handcuffs as soon as he observed her condition ; and he
would also have released Mr. Deacle had he possessed the
, key which unlocked them, for the handcuffs were spring
handcuffs. But it was not an unusual practice to place
handcuffs on persons arrested under similar circumstances.
Mr. Bennett, the governor of Winchester gaol, stated in
his deposition, that about 400 persons in all were brought
to the gaol under these arrests, and nearly the whole of
them were handcuffed.—(Hear.) Gentlemen must he
• aware that the execution of Magistrates' warrants was not
unattended with difficulty at the time of the disturbances.
—(Hear, hear.) They were often executed in the midst
of a mob of 100 persons, and therefore some means
• were necessary in order to secure the persons
of the prisoners.—( Hear, hear.) But Mr. B.
Baring proved, that he was not the person who ordered
these parties to be handcuffed. Yet the constable, on
whose evidence the accusation rested, stated that Mr. B.
Baring came into the room and ordered the handcuffs to be
placed on. This was, however, shown to be impossible
on the other side.—(Hear.) He would now make a few
remarks on the charge made against: Mr. B. Baring, of
having given a blow to Mr. Deacle. With respect to that
charge, Mr. B. Baring said, that if he were put on oath,
he could not swear he did not touch Mr. Deacle. All he
could say was, that riding by the side of Mr. Deacle, and
observing that person repeatedly attempting to seize the
reins, he called upon Mr. Deacle to desist. He did not
recollect to have done any thing to him ; it was impossible
for him to say that he did not touch him, for it was very
difficult to prove a negative.—(Hear, hear.) He would
put the House in possession of what Captain Neville, one
of tie parties present, slid on the subject. After giving a
detail of the case, exactly as had been already stated, Capt.
Neville stated that Mr. Deacle attempted to seize the reins,
when Mt. B. Baring, putting his riding-stick on the
reins, called out to Mr. Deacle, " Sir you are not the per-
son to drive : !et the constable do that." Capt. Neville added,
that he did not see Mr. Baring strike Mr. Deacle, and said
that had Mr. B. Baring given a blow, he must have observed
it. That was the testimony of Captain Neville, who after-
wards said that he made that statement in justice to Mr. 13.
Baring, though he had no knowledge of that gentleman
whatever.—(blear, hear.) All the other gentlemen pre-
sent at the transaction gave the 'same account of it ; but
Mr. 13. Baring had not had the benefit of their depositions
on the trial, because they were made co-defendants,
though not a tittle of evidence was presented against
them.—(llear, hear.) His Hon. Friend hail stated that
a Jury had convicted Mr. B. Baring, upon the oath of a
constable, and that the depositions of these gentlemen,
who expressed their readiness to swear to them, ought not
to have greater weight than the evidence of the constable
given on oath. But the grave part of the charge made
against Mr. B. Baring was not investigated at the trial.
He was tried fur art assault, and much heavier damage
would have been given if he had been found guilty of the
other offences which were imputed to him. The Jury,
seeing that a blow was positively sworn to, and that no
person was prepared to; disprove that a blow was given,
could not avoid pronouncing a vet diet in favour of the
plaintiff. Mr. B. Baring did not pretend to say that he
did not put out his stick ; all he could speak to was
the animus with which be did it. He thanked the
House for the attention with which they had heard
him. lie was aware that the subject was more of personal
than public value, but it was not altogether unimpor-
tant.—(Hear.) Ile would only say in conclusion, that it
there was any gentleman in the House who had any doubt
with respect to this matter, he would feel muck obliged by
that gentleman calliog upon him, and examining the papers.
He would indeed be glad to submit the case to half a dozen
gentlemen, whom the Hon. Mover might select, and abide
by their decision. S strongly, indeed, was he convinced
that the whole case would hear the closest investigation,
that he would be willing to take the Editors ofthtealNkeedwos :
the possibility News-
papers who had been libelling and slandering Mr. B. Baring,
and submit the case to their decision.—(Hear, hear.) The
Hon, and Learned
of further proceedings.l This'
aronediaGei:tleinan(ilr.\lilde) hadwas a
question
for legal judgment, hut there was undoubtedly this double
difficulty in moving for a new trial. Those gentlemen who
had given depositions in favour of Mr. 13. Baring, could
not be released from the indictment for the purpose of
giving evidence ; and there was this further difficulty, that
it would be impossible to negative the assertion that a blow
'a-as given, and therefore the verdict for assault could not he
set aside. The Hon. Gentleman sat down amidst loud cheers.
Sir J. SCARLETT was sure that the statement of the
Hon. Member who had just sat down would give uni-
versal satisfaction.—( Hear, hear.) The House sympathized
with the feelings of the lion. Member, and was satisfied
with the explanation which he had given of the conduct
of his excellent and amiable relative.—(Hear, bear.) He

was anxious to state that the impression made uron his
mind by reading the report of the trial in the Newspapers.
When he saw many persons included in the indictment,
and a verdict given against one of them only, it imme-
diately occurred to him that the attorney for the plaintiff
had made them co-defendants, in order to exclude them
from giving testimony on the trial.—(Hear, hear.)
The impression on his mind was, that the case was mis
represented, exaggerated, and perhaps supported by false
testimony.—(Hear, hear ) He was certainly very much
surprised at the comments which appeared in the News-
papers on the trial. Perhaps the editors of Newspapers
were not aware of the practice often resorted to by at-
tornies, to put together in one net all those persons who
might be called as witnesses fur the defendants.—(Hear.)
Mr. HUNT rose to address the House, but was received
with expressions of impatience. He hoped the House
would listen with patience to the few observations he should
make. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman at the upper
end of that (the Opposition) bench, had spoken of put-
ting a number of people together in one net. Now he
begged leave to ask the Hon. and Learned Member whe-
ther he did not recollect—(Laughter)—when he put him
(Mr. Hunt)—(Continued laughter)—and all that were
with him, into the same net, in order that he (Mr. Hunt)
might not have an opportunity of making a defence.
(Great laughter.) He was very happy to see the Hon.
Member for Thetford laughing—(Murmurs)—but he
would not make the slightest reflection on him, for he re-
spected his feelings as a parent. He declared, that on
reading the report of the trial, he was struck with horror
at what appeared to him an extreme case of cruelty, prac-
tised by a gentleman in the commission of the peace, who
had committed one of the most offensive violations of the
peace, by striking an unarmed and fettered female. He
bad himself experienced cruelty from officers, and be knew
how much torture they had it in their power to inflict.
He should be iejoiced to find that the evidence given on
that trial was not correct, but he confessed he had heard
nothing yet--(Cries of " Oh")—but unsworn testimony
in opposition. They had as yet heard nothing about Mr.
Deane.—(Laughter.) Oh ! yes; he was told that some
explanation was given about that gentleman while he was
out of the House ; for not expecting the question to come
on, be had left the House and got his dinner.--(Ques-
thin, question.) He had thought that the Noble Lord
would not allow any other question but the eternal
Bill to be discussed.—(Question, question.) He thought
that the statement made by Hon. Members was not
sufficient proof that the constable had sworn falsely. It
had been stated that Mr. B. Baring was not in the par-
lour ; but it would have been easy for Mr. B. Baring to
have called upon the constable from the kitchen to do his
duty. He did not mean to say that Mr. B. Baring did
so, but yet such a thing was possible. He had read the
defence of Mr. B. Baring in the Times, and the coin-
ments made upon it. But he would nat allow these com-
ments to have any effect on his judgment, for he knew how
easy it was for editors of newspapers to slander any one.
He bad suffered from them himself, and he supposed many
other Hon. Members hal done so likewise. He thought
the best plan to pursue would be to call for a copy of the
evidence produced at the trial, together with the Judge's
observations and notes. If Mr. B. Baring waited until the
time for anew trial, he would then be placed in an awkward
situation, for his character would suffer if he failed to ob-
tain a verdict ; and how was it possible for him to get a
verdict, if, as he stated, all his witnesses were included in
the indictment as defendants ? The Hon. Member pro-
ceeded, amidst considerable interruption, to refer to the
facts of the case, and in doing so, spoke of Mr. Bingham
Baring having gone out to see Mts. Bingham Baring in
the cart.—(A laugh.) Members might laugh at his mis-
take, but he wished that Mrs. Bingham Baring had been
in the cart instead of Mrs. Deacle.—(Groans.) Mrs.
Deaele had committed no offence.—(Question.) No wit-
ness had ventured to swear that Mr. Bingham Baring
had not struck a blow at an unarmed man in fetters.
Mr. MILDMAY could not allow the Hon. Member for
Preston to escape without some observation. The Hon.
Member who had attempted to cast a stigma on the
character of Mr. Baring, and who talked so loudly of in-
justice and oppression, had not been in the House when
Mr. Baring's defence cvas made.—(Cheers.) If the House
should desire to see the man who would dare to malign
another without having heard his defence, they might be-
hold him in the representative of Preston.—(Hear.) Yet
the Hon. Member was the man to stand up for liberty and
justice. He could not allow the question to be brought to
a decision without expressing his indignation at the con-
duct of the Hon. Member.

Mr. HUNT would have made the same statement which
lie had made without hearing one word in explanation of
Mr. Baring's conduct.—(A laugh. )
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that
the gallant officer, by bringing forward this case, had
afforde 1 an opportunity for an explanation to be given of
the circumstances attending it (and a most satisfactory
one had been given;) but the nature of the motion was
such, that it was impossible the House could accede to it.
From the general feeling which pervaded the House, be
did not think it necessary to enter into any argument to
prove that the papers ought not to be produced. He
thought that his Hon. Friend had done rightly in se-
conding the motion, and availing himself of that oppor-
tunity of offering an explanation to the House. His ex-
plinatiorr had proved satisfactory to the whole House, with
the exception of one Hon. Member, and that Member had not
heard it.—(Cheers.) Having the pleasure of knowing
Mr. Bingham iirring very well, he did not for a moment
believe that he was capable of acting in the brutal manner
which he was represented to have done. If there was one
man in the world less likely than another to act in such a
Way, it was his Hon. Friend.—(Hear, hear.) He could
not help concurring entirely in the indignation expressed
by the Hon. Member for Thetford, at the conduct of those
who had pressed on Mr. Baring in the way they had done,
without giving him any opportunity of making his defence;
and who, when he did offer a defence, treated it with de-
rision and contempt merely.—(Hear, hear.) He should
not do justice to his feelings if he did not state that be
fully participated in the indignation which had been ex-
pressed at the conduct cf those partied. The whole case
was now fairly before the public, and he was quite sure
that all who heard the speech of the Hon. Member for
Portsmouth, or who might read it hereafter, must be per.
feetly satisfied that the conduct of Mr. IZlngliam Baring,
and of all the Magistrates, bad been in all respects justi-
fiable, and that they exhibited no harshness which the
circumstances of the case did not render necessary.—
(Hear. ) lie did not think it necessary to detain the
House further, but he had felt it to be due to himself to
express his sentiments on the occasion as he Lid done.

Colonel EVANS felt highly gratified by the manner in
which the motion had been received by the two Hon.
relatives of the gentleman whose conduct had formed the
topic of discussion. At the same time he must say, that
it was not exactly for a judicial opinion that he had brought
the subject before the House. lie should not state the fact
if he sa;d that his conviction enabled him to participate to
the full extent in what he observed to be the almost unani-
mous feeling of the House. He should be false to himself
if he stated that be thought the case was satisfactorily put
at rest, either with reference to the interests of the indi.
virtual principally concerned, or to the Magistrates generally.
fie must confess that lie was both disappointed and astonished
at the manner in which the case had been put by the
Hon. and Learned Member for Newark. The Hon. and
Learned Member had di-,appointed hint by having entireh
failed to make out a point which he considered essential
to be made out. He was astonished at the strong, he would
not say arbitrary, sentiments, which the Lion. and Learned
Member had expressel. The Hon. and Learned
Member seemed totally to forget that not only were
one of the parties in this case acquitted, but that the
Crown brought forwar d no evidence against them.
Yet, in defiance of the reknowledged principles 01
the English law, the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman bad spoken of them as if they were convicted
criminals. Unless he entirely mistook the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman, he seemed in portions of his speech
to consider Mr. and Mrs. Deacle to be still guilty, though
they had been acquitted by the laws of their country. He
was sorry that the Hon. and Learned Member had thought
it necessary to become the calumniator of these unfortunate
individuals, whether guilty or not, while he had left alto-
gether untouched the important part of the statement
which he (Colonel Evans) had submitted to the House.
The Hon. and Learned Gentleman had said not a word
with r,,spect to the Crown not having prosecuted for per-
jury the witnesses who had sworn the several ,repositions.
That was a most important point. The Hon. and Learner'
Gentleman had like: ise'mnitred to give airy explanation o'
:he fact, that the securities of the persons who had given
evidence before the Grand Jury, but refused to come for-
ward at the trial, were not proceeded against, which he
hdieved was the Usual course. tie bad felt it due to him-
self to say, that he couid not fully concur with the feeling
expressed by the House, but he would not press the motion
to a division.

Question put, and negatived without, a divis:on.
THE REFORM BILL.
On the illation of Lord J. RussELL, the order of tht
day for the House resolving itself into a Committee on the
Reform Bill was then read.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee of the
Whole House, Mr. BERNAL in the chair.
The CHAIRMAN said, that the ques'ion before the
Committee was that Downton stand part of schedule A.
Lord J, RUSSELL said, that the borough of Down-

tots was not included within the last Bill ; neither did it
come within the rule applicable to boroughs which did
not possess a population of 2,000 ; because its population,
according to the census of 1821, was 3,100, though by
the same authority, it appeared .to possess only nine houses
paying a yearly rent of 101. The House was now in pos-
session of later information respecting the number of 101.
houses in the borough. In answer to a question from the
Home-office, the overseers had replied, that the borough
might contain about 108 houses rented at 101. The re-
turning officer who bad furnished information re-
specting this borough for the recent population re:
turns, had calculated the number of 101. houses at
about 120. The number of thesa houses might be
taken at about 100, or very little more. It then became a
question how the number of 300 houses rented at 101.
each was to be made up. The surrounding district was I
composed principdly of down, and it would he necessary
to'proceed to a considerable distance in order to obtain the
requisite number of constituents. It would, indeed, be
impossible to complete the number without proCeeding to
Ford ingbridge, a town which contained a considerable
number of inhabitants; but in that case Downton would
merely have a share in the election of Fordiughrirlge, in-
stead of Fordingbridge having a share in the election of
Downton. On the whole, therefore, Ministers had thought
it best to submit to the Committee whether Downton
ought not to be disfranchised. At the same time he
must fairly confess that the disfranchisement of Downton
formed no part of the original Bill ; that it did not come
within the line which he had laid down relative to the
amount of population ; and that it was certainly in the
discretion of the Committee,Vr say whether Ministers had
acted properly or not in placiu it in schedule A. The
same ob,ervations applied closely to the borough of St.
Gertnains.

Mr. CROKER had all along staters his opinion that
the line relative to a population of 2,000 would not be
found satisfactory in all cases. Tire Noble Lord had on
the present occasion said something with respect to the
number of electoral houses in the borough of Downton ;
but in the speech with which the Noble Lord introduced
the Bill he said that the test :If disfranchisement should
be--not the number of houses, but the amount of popula-
tion. By that principle he (Mr. Croker) entreated the
Committee to judge of Downton. In justice to the
boroughs which were to be disfranchised, and to the
electors whose rights were to be confiscated, he demanded
that the severe and stringent rule which the Noble Lord
had himself laid down should be impartially aced
With respect to population, the case of Downton was so
strong, that it might almost claim to be taken out of both
schedules. In 1821 the population was 3,114. The
Noble Lord said that the number of electoral houses in
the borough at that period was only nine. On that point
he was misinformed. The number of electoral houses was
then 38, which exceeded in number the electoral houses
possessed by seven boroughs which were contained in
schedule B. Therefore upon the Noble Lord's own show-
ing, it appeared that the borough of Downton had a
greater population than 14 or 15 of the preserved boroughs,
and a greater number of electoral houses than seven
preserved boroughs, and yet, for no reason that he knew
of, the Noble Lord proposed to disfranchise it.—(Hear.)
The Noble Lord admitted that, at the present moment,
the borough contained 100 electoral houses. If that were
the case, it ought to stand very high on the list of pre-
served boroughs. Out of the 47 boroughs contained in
schedule B, 33 had less than 150 electoral houses each.—
(Hear.) Out of the boroughs which were to be retained,
84 had not 300 electoral houses each ; therefore, if the
Bill should pass, there would exist 84 boroughs requiring
outvoters. They would come fresh from the hands of their
maker, with an imperfection in their constituency.—
(Hear, bear.) The Noble Lord said, that he would not
retain Downton, because it would be necessary to proceed
to a considerable distance to make up the amount of con-
stituency ; hut in the case of Morpeth, be was told that
the Noble Lord proceeded fifteen miles for this purpose.—
(Hear.) Ile had stated facts, and they appeared to him so
strong that the Noble Lord was bound to give some addi-
tional explanation on the subject. The Noble Lord
seemed satisfied that facts were against him, and seemed
to throw the matter on the discretion of the House.—
(Hear.) He would accept the' Noble Lord's proposition,
and therefore should propose that Downton should con-
tinue as it was left by the Noble Lord's first and better re-
solution. Ile should, therefore, move as an amendment,
that the borough of Downton be excluded from schedule A.
Lord J. RUSSELL was bound to admit that the Right
Hon. Gentleman had stated the case very fairly. He
could only repeat what he said before, namely—that as
Ministers found a difficulty in providing a constituency for
Downton, they thought, on the whole, that the best
thing they could do was to put it into schedule A.—(A
laugh.) At the same time bee:post admit that it formed
an exception to the rule which he had laid down.—(A
laugh.) Although he should give his vote for leaving
Downton in schedule A, no principle of the Bill would
be infringed by its being taken out of it.—(A laugh.)
Mr. CROKER had omitted to state one important fact,
which was, that by the recent returns the population of
Downton stood at 3,961.
Mr. O'CONNELL could not agree with the Noble
Lord's proposition that no principle of the Bill would be
violated by preserving Downton. fie thought that prin-
ciple would he violated which went to the destruction of
rotten boroughs.—(Hear.) It had been an accusation
against the Bill that it was too sweeping a measure, but he
had succeeded in proving that schedule B contained a
number of boroughs which ought to he swept away.
Would any Member deny that the borough of Down-
ton belonged to the Earl of Radnor ?—(1-fear.) Would
any man deny that he sent two Members into that Ilouse ?
The constituency of Dowaton was composed of twenty
thatched cabins. The people of England wanted no nutue-
rical calculations. The knowledge of the number of in-
habitants in boroughs was of use only as showing that
they were likely to he corrupt ; but if the House arrived
at the fact of corruption by other means, where was the
use of numerical calculations? He hoped that all real
Reformers would rally on this occasion, and not suffer the
borough of Downton to escape on any pretence whatever.
—(Hear.) It should be observed, that this place was
not situated in an agricultural, but in a grazing district,
and it would be most difficult to procure for it the requi-
site number of voters, without going to a very consider-
able distance. He therefore should certainly take the
sense of the Committee as to the strict propriety of con-
tinuing Downton in schedule A. What, he asked, were
those individuals doing who had argued in fevoue of a
different course? They were edvocating the system of
electoral districts, arid time driving the country to that
which they professed most to dread—universal suffrage.
He had before him the plain fact, that this was a nomina-
tion-borough, snd therefore it ought to be left in scheduieA.
Colonel SH3THORP observed, thet the Noble Lord
and his friends dwelt upon numbers; but be (Colonel
Siathorpe), and those who were on his side, dwelt upon
justice. Now he would rather go out in a minority,
having justice with him, than vote With the Ministerial
phalanx, who seemed to set justice and reason at defiance.
—(Hear.) He should vote for the amendment.
An How. MEMBER suggested to the Noble Lord the
propriety of joining the borough of Downton with that or
Wilton, and placing the united borau4h schedule B. The
two boroughs thus united might, ae conceived, whir much
propriety. send one Member to that House.
Mr. CROKER denied that he would joie with the Noble
with any other person to preserve a rotten ho -
with a very narrow constituency. 'tie and his
friends' were anxious to do just, the contrary. they knew
lalL.:oursi ii ii or
ton was a rotten borough, and they were going to
nplrekos, :huego:se
ttl'eYinirtee'reisat
priety of
make it a free one.—(Hear, hear.) When i,ord latulnor
flaecfct,ittlnaudiee
offered it up on tht.Qerahltaarhlif hvisercyo•c,itti
but to free it from thraldom. Where, lie would
Ineo;roofiftegrliin.g alist:oalal'tternpt was here made to save a rotten
the virtuous indignation of Hon, ead Learned
31:s1ter'inlahifor Kerry when he saw ieldeburgh in Suffolk
the list in schedule A, while Aldbu•
taken from that list, and
wasas
He lad no doubt bpt stiu-
ed
chedule
I,W3e,:attinlini'ntl7a.bitants, and, 'surely, acting upon the
iip:ll,,tiliccg
iai
this
nrcef
?Isy
ei:)'n'osrtsoatoisgf this
atneu'lme----nt(Tauttigdhntelar.k; •P'Tculv:;toanuae'rienlnelletnhda-t
principle of the Bill, it would be most unjust to di-fran
ehise it. Hie Gallant Friend (Colonel Sibth )1 si
served, that he would, on this • .°!•Pe- Qa-
lies.tipio, tval?..tigiy go out
with a minority, hiving
In. Iris ()pi-
t feel no apprehension upon
that paint. He thieught I Friend •
Iris Gallant would divide
a triumphant with ump.lant majority,
who uncitytienalely would
is
have justice on their side. Ver civet part, he should
nitjanl'r r GallantC
O N N :Li"due setlt.iei' c(.toe
tel very haPPY t 9, go out far • h I I
was likely to di), in a •
nralority with his Majesty's Minis.
tern.—( Hear, hear.)
vations which had been matte.
Mr. STANLEY said, that the present case stood upon I
special grounds ; and if the sense of the Pcu should be
against allowing the home li 'l' " din
sche-
lule A, mini,teza
Would feel o
rsc ointment waton to stand
no principle of the Bill would.b:becausei
violated by such a
,ion. Seven individuals were
here exercising a franchise
it the beck of a Noble Lord, who admitted that he did
virtually return two Members sit in •
to
pressed his perfect willingness to give up such an uncon-
,titutional privilege. The Right Hon. Gentleman said,
that bY agrecin to his amendment they would make

t.,=t

Downton as free as Westminster. Let him, then, when
pressing the case of Caine on Ministers, make use of the
s nme argument. They did not proposs to disfranchise
that borough ; but, to use the Right Hon. Gentleman's
phrase, they wished to leave it as free as Westminster. It
would be very difficult to make I),,,cnton a free and inde-
pendent borough. Could they find a constituency in the
middle of Salisbury. plain ? They would have to go four
miles and a half, and into another county, to add to the
constituency, and then they would, perhaps, procure
thirty or forty additional votes. It was very true, that by
the population return of 1821 the inhabitants of Downton
amounted to 3.114. But the inconsiderableness of the
borough might be inferred from the amount of taxes which
it paid. The borough, in 1828, paid fifty-four pounds
annually, the whole parish one hundred and sixteen
pounds. In 1830 the borough paid seventy.two pounds,
and the whole parish one hundred and ten pounds. Taking
these circumstances into consideration, looking at the
small number of electors, and knowing it to be avowedly
a nomination borough, he thought that there was sufficient
re ,son for placing it in schedule A.
Sir R. PEEL thought that the Right Hon. Gentleman
inud placed the question on very just and fair grounds.
He viewed it as a judicial question, and left Hon. Mem-
bers to vote for or against it as they pleased. He was
not sorry to see that Ministers were divided on this occa-
sion.—(Mr. STANLEY—" We are not divided.") It could
not be denied that they had dealt with Wiltshire upon a
most extensive scale : Bedwin, Heytesbury, Ludgershall,
Oat Sarum, were to be wholly disfranchised; Malmes-
airy and Wilton were each to Ise a Member; and now,
which was not so originally, Downton was transferred
from schedule Bto schedule A. It was said in defence of
this transfer, that the district in which Downton was
situated was so extensive, that great difficulty would be
experienced in seeking for a proper constituency. He,
however, would argue that the more extensive the district
the more widely situated the electoral houses, the more in-
dependent must the voters be of Lord Radnor, or of other
persons.—(Hear, hear.) Adhering to the principle of
tine Bill, he cou'd not see why the renter of a 10/. house
upon Salisbury-plain had not a right to be included in the
franchise for Downton. It was useless to talk of dis-
tance, since it appeared that different places were to be
appointed for the.poll.—(Hear, hear.) Those who were
favourable to the extension of the franchise would surely
vote for this amendment, which would bring forward a
class of voters, the ny. farmers, who were never called
into operation before. He (Si: R. P,el) being " ena-
moured" of the principle of the Bill—(Laughter)—would
certainly strictly adhere to it in this instance; and he was
happy in pointing out the place where it might be most
strictly and properly applied.—(Hear, hear.) Those who
were attached to " the Bill, the whole Bill, and nothing
but the Bill," and who were of course anxious to pre-
serve it in its full integrity, would, he was sure, support
the amendment.

Mr. C.• FERGUSSON, ai we understood, supported
the original motion.

An HON. MEMBER wouli deliver his sentiments freely,
however he might be taunted as " a delegate" seated he-
hind Ministers, and ready to obey their call. When the
Minister rose and proposed any measure, he felt that he
;vas left to his own discretion to support or to oppose it ;
and he would tell the Right Hon. Baronet opposite, that
if he brought forward any motion which, in his opinion,
appeared likely to benefit the country, he would give it
his feeble aid. Acting independently, he for one would
most decidedly vote for the Ministers on this question, be-
cause he conceived Downton to be a nomination borough,
Sir R. FEEL reminded the Hon. Member, that the
Noble Lord had said that voting Downton out of schedule
B would not be trenching on the principle of the Bill.—
(Loud cries of " Question.")
Mr. EIVART and Mr. C. PELHAM made a fete obser-
vations, but the cries of " Question," which were not
silenced by the reiterated appeals of the Chairman, ren-
dered thetn wholly inaudible.

Mr. SMITH (some degree of silence having been ob-
tained) said, it appeared that nine houses only possessed
the franchise in the borough of Downton. Were they,
then, to continue the right of sending Members to Par-
liament, to a place thus situated, instead of extending it
to some wealthy and populous, but unrepresented town?
This was evidently a nomination borough, and ought to be
disfranchised.

Mr. HUNT knew something of this borough, and he
could safely say, that it was as rotten a borough as any in
schedule A. As to throwing it open and extending its
franchise, he was quite convinced that they could not get
SOO 101. householders, without going a great number of
miles ; unless, indeed, they pleased to give the franchise to
the sheepcotes in the neighbourhood. They had been
called ou to unite Wilton and Downton. In that ease
Lord Pembroke and Lord Radnor might ton up for the
privilege of nomination, or they might agree to assume
that privilege turn about. Ile aboald vote for the disfran-
chisement of the borough.
The cries of " Question" were now reelouble.i.
Mr. 11. L. BULWER shortly addressed the Committee
in favour of the disfranchisement of the borough.
111 r. BENETT with much difficulty obtained a heating
for a few moments. He observed that though Downton
was now a nomination borough, it would cease to be so if
placed in schedule B. No influence could then be exercised
with respect to that borough, beyond that fair influence
which property always must command. Much mistake
appeared to be entertained with respect to tire localities of
the borough. The neighbourhood of Downton was popu-
lously inhabited, and W 0,4 ao well cultivated as the open
parts of Wiltshire. In that neighbourhood a aufEl6ent
number of electors could be found, without travelling into
Hampshire. He trusted that justice would be done to
Downton, and that it would be removed from schedule A.
The Committee then divided, when there appeared.—
Ayes (fur the original question)
Noes '244
Majority (for the disfranchisement'
On our re-admission to the gallery, the question bad been
put, that the borough of Dunwich stand part of sci''edule
A, which, after some observations, which could not be
heard in the gallery, was agreed to without a division,
though the noes were vigorous.
The question that Eye stand part of A produced a laugh
at the apparent encroachment of one letter upon another.
Sir E. KERRISON hoped that the Committee would
allow Lim a few sninotes of their attention. But put, as
it were, truer, his trial, air Member for Eye, he had a right
to be heard. He could state that he had been three times
returned for this borough, and could assert that be had
never bribed or received a brilt; for any interest be might
possess as its Member ; said he challenged any man in the
House, or out of the House, to assert the contrary. The
borauih had now a population of 2,330; anti there was
some reason to think there bed been a mistake in the re-
turns of 1821. Between 1811 and 1821, there had been
an increase in the population of 140 ; and between l&aal
and 1831, an increase of 434. •He condemned the Reform
measure as fraught with injurious craosequenees to the
country.
Mr. BURGE (the atLee Member for Eye) spoke amidst
so much noise that he could not be heard.
Mr. SADLER was inaudible for the same reaazaa
Sir C. WETHERELL cautioned the Committee against
getting into a confusion through she similarity' of bound
of e, y, e, and a, y, Question, question.") He
had not a long E;aZeinent to make, but it be had, that
long st: itement he should make, in spite of the gentlemen
under the clock.—.((Go nu.) By the existing census, it
appeared the hoaongh of Eye had 330 inhabitants above
2,0001 cluPsaquently if the present census had been the
has:is of this Bill, the borough would nut Is; rliali anchised;
but the census of 1821 being take:, it appeared to have
116 below 2,000. The ,ion. and Gallant Member had ,
suggested a reason ;or believing that the census of MI
was not c,:arect ; and he (Sir C. Wetherell) could not
help remarking, that whilst it was. oh,ieeted to the return
of 1831 that they might made up with a view to the
Reform Bill. tho,4e 4g 182,15 not having respect to such a
measure 44 this, were not probably made up with siafracient
accuracy.
The question was agreed to without a division,
The CHAIRMAN then reat: She borough of Powey.—
(Cries of " Arjourra," and " Go on.")
Sir J. ITADGES moved that the Chaittnan report
.10 ~,ra,'s and ask leave to sit irgaira.---(" Hear," and
a
" Go on.")

Lord MILTON pal; it to the Hon. Baronet whether,
as a Membr of :Parliament, he could think he was doing
his duty to the people of England, if he prevented the
House From sitting more than three hours (as they had
only begun at nine o'clock) on this important question.
Sir J. BRYDGES persisted in his motion.
Sir R. PEEL said that, in Ms opinion, the hoer had
not arrived for adjournment—(lt tv,•ss thea half-past
twelve)—and if the Hon. liar tcok the sense of the
House, he should vote against the motion.—(Hear.) They
ought to, gq oa C 4 they came to a borough which involved
some new queAtion.—(Hear.)
'Sir J. I3RYDGES said his opinion was not altered, but
he would not press the motion.
Lord BRUDENELL said th,„.‘ borough of Fowey was
situated in two parishes closely adjoining each other. The
population of the borough in the two parishes, according
to the census of 1821, was 2,400, and the number of
voters more than 300. According to, the rule laid down
by the Ministers themselves, this borough ought not, there-
fore, to !Y.' in schedule A ; and if his Majesty's Govern-
ment were disposed to be fair and impartial, it ought)

•of !)e totally disfranchised. lie was bound to say, how-
e.,r, that he did not expect this from his Alajesty's Go-
v, mtwnt, as they were backed t.y a bound and pledgtd
In4jority.—(No )

Mr. SEVERN entered into a statement in order t
show that the trade, commerce, and shipping o Fower
had considerably increased since 1821, as well as the po-
pulation; and that, therefore, it should retain one repre-
sentative.

Sir C. WETLIERELL and Mr. SADLYR both conceived
that the Hon. Member's statement NVA cisive against the
disfranchisement.

Mr. PRAED said, there was this remarkable difference
between Fowey, which Ministers proposed to wholly di:.
franchise, and Calne, which they permitted to retain i e
representatives,—that the former was admitted on all han
to be daily increasing in commercial importance, while t e
latter was stated in the population returns to be, fur the last
20 ears, decaying in it; manufactures and trade.--,(Hear.)
Mr. CROKER conceived that the case of Truro was in
itself decisive against Ministers, so far as Fowey was con—
cerned, for they had united three parishes to the •borough
in the instance of Truro, while all that 'Was asked was to
unite one to Fowey.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the rule which Ministers had
I rid down could not admit of an exception in the cas.e. of
Fowey, whose population, besides, was but 1,400.
Mr. D. GILI3ERT, from local information, could state
that Truro contained in itself, without the adjacent parishes,
n sufficient population to entitle it to two Members. The
,uldiLional hamlet would not make the population of Fuwey
2,000.

The question that the borough of Fowey stand part of
schedule A was then put and carried.
The question that the borough of Gatton stand part of
schedule A was put, amidst roars of laughter, and carried
after a few words fro.n Mr. fore, expressive, as we un-
derstood, of a wish that the new constitution might
flourish as well as the one of which Gamin was a part.
The same question was put and carried with respect to
the borough of Haslemere. After which the House re—
sumed, and the CHAIRMAN reportei progress, and obtained
leave to sit again this day.
The SPEAKER sai 1, that as it appeared to he the wi,h
of the House that he should take the chair at Three o'clock,
he hoped that the attendance of Members would enable
him to do so.
The Coal Duties Bill was then read a third time, and
passed.
The report on the Queen's Dowry Bill was brought up,
and ordered to be read to-morrow (this day.)
At a Quarter to Two o'clock the House adjourned.

Ott the borough a Downton the division was—for the
Ministers 274, and against the disfranchisement 244,
leaving only a majority of 30, which is to be accounted
for by the following 40 having voted in the minority,
who have heretofore voted for the Bill
Adeane, 11. J. Gordon, B.
A;;iiew, Sir A. Greene, T. G.
Astley, Sir J. D. Harcourt, G. V.
Belgrave, Viscount Heathcote, G. J.
Bcnett, John Howard, IL
Bentinck, Lord G. Hodgson, John
Bouverie, r. Johnstone, J. J. H.
Buck, L, W. Lewis, T. F.
Buller, J. W. Lemon, Sir C.
Burrell, Sir C. M. Lopes, Sir R. F.
Colborne, N. W. R. Lumley, J. S.
Denison, J. E. Milton, Viscount
Fergusson, H. C. North, F.
Ferguson, Sir R.

Powell, W
Ramsden, J. C.

Ridley,
Bickford, W.
Skipwith, Sir G.
;Staunton, Sir G.
ITyrell, t*.
Willoughby, Sir H.
Webb, Colonel E.
Wood, Colonel T.
Wrottesley, Sir J. B.
Wynn, Sir W. W.
Wynn, C. W. G.

ORAN GEI SM—FATAL AFFRAYat GI RYA N.

On Tuesday last a serious affray took place at
Girvan, in Ayrshire, in which one individual, a con-
stable, lost his life. It appears to have been cus-
tomary for some years, in consequence of the accu-
mulation of Irish in that distilet, to have anniversary
Orange processions; in anticipation of which, on
the present occasion, the Magistrates of Girvan had
issued a proclamation prohibiting any such proces-
sion. The Sheriff, who arrived on the previous
night, informed the Magistrates that he had the
Solicitor-General's opinion that there was no law
to prevent the procession, and consequently they
might go on. Finding that neither the ordinary
constables, nor those he had summoned as special
constables, would act, the Sheriff called on the
Orange Lodges, requesting them to avoid going into
the town. The constables then resumed their ba-
tons, and went to the junctiost of the Maybole and
Dailly roads to direct them to Donne Park without
going through Girvan. Some of the Orange party
agreed to go round, but the greater part refused. A
few stones were first thrown, and then the Orange-
men threw vollies of stones among the constables
and people. While the constables were using every
exertion to prevent the throwing of stones, the
Orange party levelled their muskets. Three shots
were fired, and the first proved fatal to Alexander
Ross, a constable. Two others were wounded by
the Orangemen, and the town's people having ral-
lied at the entrance of the town, many cuts and
blows were received, which so irritated the town's
people, that they procured a four-pounder, loaded it
and planted it, to await the return of the Orange-
men, which, however, they avoided by taking the
road pointed out for their entrance. It would ap-
pear that the originating cause of this collision was
au insult offered some time ago by an Orangeman to
a Reform procession at Girvan, which caused the
people to resolve upon putting down the Orange
processions by way of revenge, or at least not to
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