The Sun.
London, England, 1838-04-13 00:00:00

THE CORONATION.
Mr. RICHARD LAMBERT JONES considered it necessary,
although it was understood that there would be no ban-
quet at the approaching ceremonial of crowning her Ma-
jesty, to submit a motion to the Court in reference to the
claims of the citizens of London on occasions of the coro-
nations of Kings and Queens. For a series of years it
ap-
peared that the Masters of some of the principal Companies
attended the Lord Mayor in his capacity of Chief Butler at
coronations. Previously to the coronation of William IV.,
however, the Court had appointed a. Committee to inquire
into the right of the appointment of the citizens to assist his
Lordship, and it was found that the Lord Mayor and Court of
Aldermen had the right to appoint any citizens they pleased,
without reference to the Companies at all. It was also re-
commended in the Report of the Committee, who bad been
ably assisted by Mr. Woodthorpe, Mr. Tyrrell, and Mr.
Newman, the Town Clerk, Remembrancer, and Solicitor,
that as the Court of Common Council were the representa-
tives of the citizens of London, it should be suggested to the
Lord Mayor and Aldermen to appoint in future the twelve
citizens to assist his Lordship from amongst the Members of
that Court. Under these circumstances he was anxious to
recommend the Court of Aldermen to choose to attend the
Lord Mayor the Chairmen of the twelve principal Committees
of that Court.

Deputy CORNEY thought the course proposed by Mr. Jones
would be a departure from the usual liberality of the proceed-.
ings of the Court. The twelve Companies were considered
the chief citizens of London.

Mr. JONES—You are quite wrong. It is no such thing.—
( Laughter. )
After some observations from other Members, the question
that it was the opinion of this Court. that the twelve citizens
to attend the Lord Mayor, as chief butler at the Coronation,
should be selected from the Members of that Court, was put,
and declared by the Lord Mayor to be carried in the affirmative.
The Court then proceeded to consider the remaining pro._
positions contained in the Report of the Committee of the
whole Court on the municipal changes in the Corporation,
after which it adjourned.

CRIMINAL COURT.-(YESTERDAY.)

NEW COURT.
(Continued from The Sun of yesterday.)
Hugh Samuel.—l am a painter at Manchester. I knew
John Williams, who lived with the prisoner. William Jones,
the ferryman, was his father.—(The Welch custom of chang-
ing names was explained.) Went to school with J. Williams
25 years ago. He could write well.
By Mr. CLARKSON.—For the last ten years he has lived
partly in Wales and partly in Manchester. It is five or six
years ago since he saw him. By writing well he does not
allude to his making "pot-hooks and hangers" at school.—
( Laughter.) Went to school before he was 18 months old.—
( Laughter.) The name of the schoolmaster was Pritchard.
Was at school off and on for three or four years. Was more
than ten years old when he first went to that school. Saw
John Williams write " Man command yourself," and " God
save the King."—(A laugh.) Was applied to last Monday
week about this, by Hughes, a lawyer's clerk, who said,
" Did you go to school with John Williams, and did you
see him write ?" I said " Yes." Has not seen John Wil-
liams, the son of the ferryman, alive within the last year.
By the ATTORNEY- GENERAL. —The John Williams of whom
he has been speaking, had large projecting teeth.
Evan Pritchard, the son of the schoolmaster, deposed to
the fact of J. Williams (the attesting witness to the will),
being able to write. He is since dead.
John Parry, examined by Mr. —HAWSERS. —Knew J. Wil-
liams, who lived servant with the prisoner. Went to school
with him at Mr. Pritchard's, of Bangor. Williams has since
died. He could write.

Jahn Daniels has seen Williams write on a slate; has seen
him write a letter, Received one from him once.
By Mr. CLARKSON.—It contained only a few words. Can-
not well recollect what these words were.

It being three o'clock the Learned Baron inquired as to
the state in which the case stood, in order to know whether
there was any chance of its terminating to-night, as he felt
anxious to discharge the Jury as soon as possible.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL had a great number of witnesses to
call, and among the rest the two females who are prisoners in
proved that he had trdiptenfif'setta'aLann9rvied nn the length
seen him sign bills.
By Sir W. FOLLETT.—Has seen him sign so often that he
cannot tell the number of times. Never saw him make his

mark.
The Jury retired for half an hour for refreshment, at half-
past three o'clock.
Edward Jones, examined by the Attorney-General.—Wit-
nest is a stonemason, and lives near to Brynbrass Castle.
When J. \Villiams lived there lie often saw him write. This
(a paper) is my handwriting. John Williams,at the time he
paid me money for the work I had done, I saw him sign. Has
seen him sign other papers. The attesting signature to paper
No. 1., to the best of my judgment, is his, and so is this (on
another paper.)
By Sir WILLIAM FOLLETT—John \Villiams signed it that he
might be a witness that I had been paid for my work. Wit-
ness received the money from Squire Williams, and John
Williams, his servant, signed as a witness. Believes "E.
Evans" is the writing of Ellen Evans. Will swear that he
saw Williams sign it.
By the ATTORNEY- G ENERAL—RCCOIICCtS receiving 41.195. 6d.
for By
done for the prisoner, who paid it in the presence of
John Williams.
Ann Williams, the widow of the person alluded to, produced
a Bible and Prayer-book, in which the deceased had written
his name, and other things. The witness pointed out those
portions which she saw him write.
By Mr. Putuars—Has no other books than those in which
there is writing. Her mother and boy saw him write. Had
only one room in the house. Sometimes he used to write,
and on a Sunday. Her son goes to school, and can write.
There was a person lodged with her named David Ellis—does
not know whether she ever showed it to him. She certainly
never told him that the name in the Bible was written by her
son—means to swear that she at no time ever told him that
" John Williams" was written by her son John. Thinks that
none of the writing is his except his own name, which she
pointed out. Never once told him that he wrote it, although
he had only been nine months at the national school. The
name " Ann Williams," I think, was written by the boy.
None of the writing which I have shown to you is in the writ-
ing of the boy. Her boy was not allowed to write in the books,
but on pieces of paper.
Mr. PHILLIPS (to the interpreter)—Ask her who wrote
Robert Williams three times over in this (another) book ?
She said it was not her son's, she thought—perhaps they might.
Mr. Pnieeres—ls your son in town ?—Yes.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL—I atTl going to call him. He
stated that he is the son of the last witness, and the late John
Williams. I was 14 at " All Saints." Knows his late
father could write, and has seen him do so. Some of his
band writing is in this Bible. It's his writing every where
almost. Saw him write in the Bible. There is some of his
father's hand-writing in the two Testaments.
Ellen Evans (one of the prisoners indicted with T. \Vil-
liams, Esq., was sent for from Newgate to give evidence.)
On her arrival she was examined by the Attorney-General,
and her statemsmt was listened to with profound attention
Before I was brought to London I was servant to Thomas
Williams, Esq., of Brynbrass Castle, and have been five
years there. I was lady's maid to Mrs. \Villiams. In 1833
I remember Mr. Panton, of Plasgwyn, being at Brynbrass
Castle. He stopped there three or four days. It was in the
month of May. While he was there my master said some-
thing to me about witnessing something. It was on a Satur-
day. He told me early in the morning, before I went to
Carnarvon market, he should want me and Ann Williams to
sign a paper. I went to market with J. Williams. Wil-
liams drove me there. Ann Williams was present when my
master spoke to me, but John Williams was not. The fainil•y-
had lunch after my return from market. My master called
Ann, J. Williams, and myself up stairs. My master had
asked me for a lighted candle about ten minutes before. I
went into the small sitting-room up stairs. Mr. Panton and
my master were sitting there. I knew it was Saturday be-
cause of the market. When I went in my master was stand-
ing and Mr. Panton sitting at the table. The paper which I
signed was on the table open. The candle and sealing wax
were on the table. My master told us in Welch and English
that Mr. Penton wanted us to sign his will. Her master
always addressed her and Ann in English, and sometimes
John Williams in Welch. Mr. Panton signed his name on
the will. I saw ink writing on the paper. When Mr. Panton
had signed the paper he put his finger and said, " I deliver
this as my last will and testament." My master said these
words before him. I signed and witnessed it at the side-
' table, and signed nay name to it, and so did John and, Ann
Williams. Mr. Panton saw us sign it. My master saw I
was reading the paper and he put another piece of paper ovr
was it while I signing it. This (a piece of paper handed
; up) is my signature, and those arc the signatures of John
illiams, Ann Williams, and Mr. Parton. When we had
P all signed it we went down stairs. Mr. Panton came next to
the castle in November following. While he was there cn
that. occasion, my master wanted me to witness Mr. Panton
signing a paper: He said he should also want Ann and John
Williams, and he sent me with a message to John, who lived