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PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF. LORDS, MONDAT, MAY 13.
Mr. MAsoN presented an Accourt of the Sa-
laries and Pensions granted by. fie /East India
Company during the lastmonth.—Laid on the
table.

Mr: BROGDEN and others brought up frcrn the Commons
the Silk Lace - Duties Bill, and several pfivate Bills, whiCh
were read a first time.

Mr. WALLACE and others brought up a message from the
Commons requesting that Lord Stowell be allowed to attend
the Committee on Foreign Trade.
The LORD CHANCELLOR inform the Commons-that
their Lordships would send an answer by messengers of their
own.

HORSE TAX.
Earl GREY stated, that an application had•been made to
him by a very meritorious class of men in the'county of Nor-
thumberland, respecting the levying of a tax which they con-
ceived ought to be abolished. Those farmers who held farms
under 501. a year had. by the Act passed in 1815, been subjected
to an inferior ratee of duty for the horses which they kept.--
When the Horse Act had been repealed last year, the same
indulgence hadnot been extended to them. Yeta general impres-
sion prevailing that they were exempted from the tax, the first
order given to the assessors had been not to charge them. This,
however, had since been changed, and they had been assessed
as liable to the duty. He mentioned this, in the hope that the.
Noble Earl opposite would be able to interfere in tba matter—
the more so, as the amount of duty thus collected must be a very
inconsiderable object.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL would certainly inquire into the
subject with Ml the indulgent consideration due to the clags of
men by whom the applications had been made. He could not
speak at present as to the principle of the matter, but should
take care that it be referred to the proper authority; and should
take'an opportunity of letting the Noble Earl know privately.
whether it was in the, power, of his Majesty's Government to
grant relief. ' _

Earl GREY then presented a Petition from the pentry,
Clergy, Yeomanry, Farmers, and Land Owners of the County
of Monmouth;•voted unanimously at a most numerous meeting,
and describing, in strong terms, the distresses of agriculture.—
Read, and laid on the table. •
• The Earl of DARLINGTON presented a Petition from
Barnard Castle, in the County of Durham, praying for some
measure to facilitate the recovery of small debts.—Laid on
the table.

The BISHOP of LONDON presented a Petition which was
underst6od to ,be from certain congregations in Long..acre,
against the proposed concession to the Catholics.—Laid on the
table.

The,Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a similar Petition
from the Surveyors and Bufgesses of the town of Beverley.—
Laid on the table.

JOINT STOCK BANKS.
•
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE wished to ask a question
of the Noble Earl opposite, arising out of the Correspondence
which had been laid before the House, pursuant to his motion.
He wished to know whether it was to be inferred from that Cor-
respondence that those Co-partners, who were to be formed in
the country, in consequence of the proposed extension of the
right of banking, were not only to be debarred from the power
of issuing notes within 65 miles of London, but of that of issu-
e, ing them payable by Correspondents in town, or within the
prescribed distance. If the latter were•the case their circula-
tion could not be very extensive.
• The Earl of LIVERPOOL replied that it was not intended
that the notes issued by those Banks should be payable in
London, so as to circulate in town.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was understood to ask
whether any change was to take place in the usual practice of
country Bankers to have Agents or 'Correspondents in town,
where their notes might be paid. •
The Earl of LlVERPOOL—Certainly not.
REVERSIONARY GRANTS.

The Earl GROSVENoR meved for Returns of the places
granted in reversion since the Ist of January, 1821, and tbr si-
milar Returns relative to Courts of Justice.

After a few observations from the Earl of LIVERPOOL, Lord
ELLENnonotIGH, and the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, the
motion was agreed to.
scoTcri PEERS.

The Resolutions submitted to the Committee of. Privileges
having been read,
The Earl of ROSEBERRY said, that in referring to the
Journals of the House, he found that in December 1761, the
House had,come to the Resolution that two persons claiming
the same title should-not vote, and that the only mode adopted
to give effect to that Resolution had been to send notice of it to
the Lord Clerk Register. It would save their Lordships' time
to follow the example of this precedent, as it would render a
Bill unnecessary. He should therefore only move that notice
of the Resolutions before the House be given to -the Lord
Clerk Register.
The Marquis of LOTHIAN supported the motion, which
was agreed to after a few words from the Earl of Lauderdale.
DISTRESS IN IRELAND.

The Earl of DARNLEY wished to ask of the Noble 'Earl
opposite whether he would have any objection' to give the date
of the first representation made to the Irish Government re-
specting the distresses of the people, and that of the first mea-
sure adopted for their relief.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL could not give an answer to that
question at present, but suggested that the Noble Lord might
bring it forward in the shape of a motion. '
The Earl of DARNLEY had it in contemplation to make a
Motion on that subject next Friday, unless the Noble Earl
should attend in his -place to-morrow 'and should be able to
give an answer.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL was not certain that it would be
in his power-to be in his place to-morrow.
here the conversation dropped, and the House adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
• MISCELLANEOUS.
Mr. FLEMING presented a Petition from certain Owners
and Occupiers of Land in Romsey Marshes, in the County of
Southampton, complaining of Agricultural Distress, and pray-
ing for a reduction of taxation.—Ordered to be printed.
A sim it Petition was presented from Eye, in Suffolk, and
praying tTiat foreign bonded.corn might not be allowed to come
into the market.-Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr..MARRYATT presented a Petition from the'town of

'WI :S. WHITBREAD presented a Petition from the Pa-
rish of St. Andrew, Holborn' against the Bill for preventing
-the removal of the Poor.—Orderedto be printed.
Mr. WODEHOUSE presdbted a Petition from Norwich
against the Bill for preventing the removal of the Poor.----Or-
dared to lie on the table.

Mr. BURRELL presented a Petition from Walesbury to
the same effect. He remarked, that he considered the Bill cal-
culated to produce a vagrant population throughout • the- coun-
try. No legal men ever introduced a Bill into the House which
he considered to be so defective. •

Mr. S. BOURNE concurred entirely in what had fallen
from the Honourable Member. The Petition was ordered to
be printed.
Mr. BASTARD presented a Petition from a place in De=-
vonshire against the Bill for altering the. Poor Laws. The-Pe-
tition, with a similar one from Kingsbury, was ordered to lie
upon the table. "
POSTMASTER-GENEKAL IN SCOTLAND.
Sir R. FERGUSON gave notice that on the 23d of this
month he should move an Address to the Throne for abolish-
ing the Office of Postmaster-General in Scotland.
IRISH TITHES.

Mr. BECIIER presented a Petition from certain Owners of
Land of Castle Maynard, in the County of Cork, praying a,
Revision of the Tithe System in Ireland. The Honourable.
Member expressed his hope that the subject would come before.
the House previous to the expiration of the Session—Ordered
to be printed.
TREASURER OF MIDDLESEX, •

Mr. S: WHITBREAD moved for a return of the arnount t;sf
balance remaining in the hands of the Treasurer for the county,
of Middlesex.—Ordered.

• WAREHOUSING BILL.
• Mr. WALLACE postponed the Committee upon. the Ware-
housing Bill to Wednesday next.

SALFOLD COUNTY COURT BILL.

Mr. C. BATHURST presented a Petition from certain
Attornies in the Hundred of Salford (as was understood),
against the Salford County Court Bill.---Ordered to lie upon
the table.

Lord STAN LE Y presented a7PCtitiori froni 'the town' of
Salford, praying that the Bill, for, preventing the removal
of the Poor might not pass into a law:--Ordered to lie on
the table.

Mr. BLACKBURNE moved the third reading of the Sal-
ford County Court' ' • ' • •
Mr. C. BATHURST opposed the Bill.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to the principle
of the Bill, but his observations were made in so low a tone as
to he freqnently inaudible. Ile was understood to say that,
independent of his objection to erect a new Court of the nature
intended, he thought that the powers which it would possess
ought not to be granted even to the established County Court.
He moVed as an amendment, 4' That the Bill be read a third
time this day six months."
Lord .ALTHORPE supported the Bill. He observed that
Petitions had been presnted in its favour from Manchester,
Bolton,•Ashtown, and Oldham; while the only opposition made
to it by petition, was from the Gentlemen of the legal profes-
sion, Who' undoubtedly would find it very natural to oppose
any thing which should lessen their emoluments. •
Mr. B. WILBRAHAM contended that the Bill was totally
dissimilar from all others upon the same subject. He wished
it to be better Understood before'it was passed into a law. He
should therefore hope that the Bill would be withdrawn for
another year.
Mr. BROUGHAM supported the Bill. He contended that
it was calculated to give a most populous district the means
of obtaining justice upon moderate terms. It was always the
same, when any measure for reforming abuses came before
them. They were always met by pointing to something 'else
which might be done withgrea.ter advantage. He thought the
conduct of the House upon these subjects would be discovered,
and that before it was too late. He was quite convinced that
if the Bill were rejected, it would be for one of two reasons—
either upon the practice to which he had alluded, or • from the
influence of the Solicitors whose interests' would be affected
by it. He trusted, however, that the House would better per-
form their duty, and adopt the Bill.
Mr. B. WILBRAHAM and Mr. BROUGHAM mutually ex-
plained.
Gvleral GASCOYNE was convinced that the Rrinciple of
the Bill was good, and that if it were adopted witH regard .to
Manchester, its advantages would Soon be extended to other parts
of the country.
Mr. SCARLETT understood the principal objection to the
measure to be, that it placed the administration of justice
under the controul of an individual. With regard to the pre-
visions of the Bill, he considered them advantageous. '
Mr. PETER 'MOORE wished that such Bills might be
passed for all parts of the country.
Mr. C. WILSON was of opinion that the measure was only
intended for the aggrandisement of one Noble 'FamilY. He.
spoke there from a sense of duty, and the rank or station, of
'any of the parties would not influence his conduct. His im-
pression was, that the Bill would be highly pernicious in its'
results. It would'undoubtedly transfer the receipt of some
thousands a year from one set of pockets to another. But if
the advantages of the Bill were such as they had been repre-
sented, it ought riot to be confined to one hundred, but ,to be
extended over the whole country. Upon these• grounds he,
should oppose the Bill.
The Reuse then divided, when there appeared—
For the Amendment - 96
Against it - -
.70
Majority
A conversation then followed between Mr. SOLICITOR-Cr E-
RAL, Mr. BROUGHAM, and Mr. IlopuousE, when.
The SPEAKER put the question for the reading of the Bill
that day six months, which was carried in the affirmative, 'and
the Bill was therefote lost.

• A Message from the Lords here announced their Lordships'
Assent to several Bills.

Mr. RAMSDEN presented a Petition from several Free-
holders of Yorkskire, against the Yorkshire Pa hi Regulation
Bill. The Hon. Member said, he believed the general feelings
of the County were against the Bill.
A similar Petition was presented by Mr. S. WonTveY.—
Both Petitions were ordergl tr.i lie on the table.
Mr. KENNEDY postponed the second reading of the Scotch
Jury Regulation Bill until the 22d inst.
Mr. MONCK presented a Petition from the Inhabitants of
Reading, against the Poor Removal Bill.—Ordered to lie on.
the table: