The Sun.
London, England, 1849-10-04 00:00:00

THE IRISH ESTATES COMMITTEE.

Upon the motion, which was carried, that the
name of a member should be placed on the Irish
Estates Committee,
Mr. R. TAYLOR said he had observed a paragraph
in some of the papers to the effect that the committee
had abandoned the suggested plan relative to the pur-
chase of Irish estates. He believed the statement had
first appeared in an Irish paper. It had, however,
been industriously circulated by those journals which
were notoriously opposed to Sir Robert Peel, and he
took that opportunity to state that there was no foun-
dation whatever for the report, and that the com-
mittee were only waiting for information, upon
receiving which they would immediately proceed to
the consideration of the subject.

THE SMITUFIELD MARKET QUESTION.

The following are the notices of motions relative to
Smithfield Market, to be discussed at the Special
Court, together with the contents of the petitions of
the graziers and butchers :
By Mr. Deputy llieks—That it be referred to a
committee to consider and report on the best means
of giving further accommodation for cattle in Smith-
field Market, provided it should appear to the com-
mittee to be necessary or desirable.
By Mr. R. G. Pead—That it be referred to the
General Purposes Committee to consider and report
whether any (and if any, what) breach was made in
the privileges of the corporation, and whether any
(and if any, what) damage or injury has been done in
this court, by certain of its members giving evidence
before Parliamentary Committees in 1847, and in the
present year, on the subject of Smithfield Market,
strict reference being made to the fact that Mr.
Deputy hick, one of the members so giving evidence,
was for many years chairman of the Markets Com-
mittee, and that another witness, Mr. George Pearl,
is chairman of the said committee for the present
year.
By William Henry Lowman Taylor—That it be
referred to a committee to inquire and report to this
Court the area of the several market places within tie
city, namely, Smithfield, N ewgate, and Leadenhall
markets; and that the committee do likewise inquire
and report whether, in their opinion, any addition cf
space, or other increased accommodation, is required
in either of these markets, together with an estimate
of the expense of making such additions or alterations ;
and that the committee do further inquire and report
whether it is expedient to make application to Parlia-
ment to raise the whole, or any portion, of the funds
that may be required or the purpose, either by in-
crease of toll or otherwise, for the requisite powers to
effect these objects.
The subject of Smithfield will thus be completely
opened on the special day. The discussion will pro-
bably last two days.

SPORTIN G INTELLIGENCE.
MONMOUTH RACES.—TUESDAY.
The Hack Stakes of 3 sovs. each and 15 added, for three
yrs old, Bst 41b.; four, 9st 61b; ,five, lOst; six and
aged, lOst 41b; winners extra, &c. Heats, twice
round and a distance. (7 Subs.)
Mr. Southey's Streamer, 4 yrs (Wakefield) 2 0 1 1
Mr. Kirby's Rosa, aged 3 1 2 2
Mr. Powell's Gvrenny, 4 yrs 1 0 3 3
Mr. Russell's Madge Grey, 5 yrs 0 3 dr
Mr. Gorden's br g, by the Cardinal, out of
Mantrap's dam, 6 yrs 0 2 dr
Mr. Holman's Vixen, 6 yrs
The Monmouthshire Stakes of 10 sovs. each, 5 ft, and
3ft only if declared, with 40/. added. Thrice round.
(23 Subs, 13 of whom declared )
Mr. Isaac Day's Mignon, 5 yrs, Ent 131 b (Wakefield) 1
Mr. Davis's Chorister, 4 yrs, 7st 31b 2
Mr. R. Humphries' Carbuncle, 3 yrs, sst 101 b 3
The following also started, but were not placed:
Mr. Johns' New Forest Deer, aged, 9st—Mr. Steven-
son's Old English Gentleman, 3 yrs, 6st 11b—Captain
Steward na Landseer, 3 yrs. sst 310—awd Mr. Howlett's
Luminous, 5 yrs, 7,4 Sib.
The Wye Stakes of 5 sovs. each, and 20 added. Heats,
twice round. (5 Subs.)
Mr. G. Drew's Kennett, 3 yrs 0 0 1 2 1
Mr. Power's Mr. Toots, 3 yrs 0 3 4 1 2
Mr. Brewer's Bravissimo, 6 yrs
Mr. Stephenson's Old Enzlish Gentle-
man, 3 yrs 0 0 2 3 dr
Mr. Webb's Peggy Meldrum, 6 yrs 0 2 dr
WEDNESDAY.
Tho Chippenham Stakes of 10 sovs. each, 5 ft, and only
3if declared. Heats, twice round and a dis. (17
Subs., 6 of whom declared.)
Mr. Davis's Chorister, 7st 51b ...(W. Butler) 0 1 1
Mr. I. Day's Mignon, 5 yrs, 6st 13Ib
Mr. Johns' New Forest Deer, aged, 9st
Mr. Griffiths' Bagley, 4 yrs, 7st 7Ib.
The Hendro Sweepstakes of 5 toys. and 20 added.
lleats, one mile and a half. (7 Subs.)
Mr. Southby's Streamer, 4 yrs, lOst
Mr. Wilkin's Ima, aged, lOst 91b
Mr. llinton's Lahore, 4 yrs, lOst
Mr. Webb's Vulture, aged, lOst 91b 3 0 0
Mr. Le Brewer's Bravissimo, 6 yrs, lOst 91b 1 dis.

THE CHURCH IN CHINA.—The Bishop of Victoria
has, through his agents, Messrs. Phillips, Shaw, and
Lowther, arranged for the passage of himself and suite
to his diocese in China in the ship Sir George Pollock,
and will leave this country about the end of the present
month.
CHEAP Sairs.—The new Swedish brig Duo, which
we mentioned as having arrived here some weeks sinces
to be fitted out at this port, sailed again on Friday !..
for the Cape of Good Hope. We underandebeaathirv;
out nearly 1,0004 here, in having
taken off, in being recaulked all ohveere
with the wood, and Muntz's patenetr metal
d with metal pintles
was also supplied wit chain w rug ,
iron winch and
cables, an
blocks,eilst,heseih
Protectionistsiopf achandlery,
bout
2oc
and braces, anchors,wood
sredrerresiteatshie!
5/. per ton in b •
&c., of'British manufacture.
and rigged abroad,
ihgent w
vessel
pumps, several calla,
tons comes hereTheansda szipeewnds nearly
being built mg
hawfsoeWrr:
well fitted out, after
say to this?
when we have been told that foreigners can both build
and equip vessels themselves for this very sum.—Pl/P
meutla Journal.
NORTH AND EAST LONDON BEN
TIoN.—A meetingEvoLENTs
of this - • tINSTITU.•
charity was held on Monday
last, of a highly satisfactory
ci nature; Henry F. Richard-
expressed a hope th tpdie the chair. The chairman
adecayed manufacturers, trades-
men, artizans, and
mechanics, and their widows, would
forthwith apply
letters of recommendation. It was
then finally arranged fur
holden in that the second festival should be
May, and the meeting adjourned.
WATER Fort THE METROPOLIS.—III answer to a
correspondent, who says he does not see how an outcry
for water is to aid in obtaining a good supply of it, the
editor of the Builder says—" He may depend on it that
without an outcry it will never be procured. The outcry
must be for sufficient water, pure water, and cheap
water; and when this is to be had, and the vital im-
portance of it is brought to the minds of all, landlords
will feel made, or be made to afford it, to those not
sufficiently strong to claim it for themselves. Can the
existing water companies comply with the requirement?
That they do not is certain. It they cannot, or will nor,
those who will undertake to do so should be supported
on all-hands. A continuous and abundant supply of
pure water is imperatively demanded."
MR. BALLINGALL.-1I gives us pleasure to notice
that Mr. Ballingall's writings, in the Anti ship-wreck
and Emigration Cause, are receiving much publicity
from the home journals. On looking over the Duilis
Weekly Register, of the 30th December (a journal of ex-
tensive circulation), we find a re-publication of a letter
of Mr. Ballingall's, originally printed in the P. P. Herald,
from which paper it is duly acknowledged.—Mdbourne
Morning Herald, klay 17, 1849.

SUNDAY LABOUR IN TIIE POST-

OFFICE.
A meeting of merchants, hankers, and traders of
the Cit 7 was held yesterday in the Hall of Commerce,
Threadn3edle-street, fur the purpose of taking into
coosideratipn the I,roposed increase of Sunlay labour

in the Post-duce.
Sir James Duke, the Lord Mayor, took the chair
at 12 o'clock, amidst loud cheers.
The attendance was very numerous. On the plat-
form we observed Mr. Masterman, M.P., Sir E. N.
Buxton, M.P., Alderman Sidney, .P., Mr. Robartes,
M.P., Mr. D. W. Wire, the Rev. Dr. Croly, and a
number of other well-known gentlemen in the City.
The CHAIRMAN addressed the meeting as follows :
—Having the honour to be the chief magistrate
of the city of London, I consider it always my sacred
duty to give my warm co-operation and assistance in
any measure which may affect the citizens of London.
—(Cheers) I have refused to take the chair on
many occasions when I have been invited to preside
at meeting;, because I thought the questions which
were to be discussed involved considerations of
a political nature, of which I considered it
the duty of my office to steer clear.—(Cheers.)
But, gentlemen, this question is purely and entirely
one of a domestic character, affecting the citizens of
London, and therefore I am not only happy to come
forward to preside at such an important meeting as
tile, but I give my assurance that I will co-operate
with lon to the utmost in my power in giving effect
to the resolutions which may be arrived at to-day.—
(Loud cheers.) It is necessary I should state to you
that when I first heard of the intention to open the
Post-office on Sundays I wrote officially to Lord
John Russell on the subject.—(Hear, hear.) I be-
lieve the Noble Lord was not in any way informed
upo-n the subject.—.(Cheers.) I have since received
a letter, dated on Monday last, from the Noble Lord
while at Woburn Abbey, which I feel it my duty to
read to this meeting.—(Hear, hear.)
" Woburn Abbey, Oct: 1, 1849.
"My Lord,—ln reply to your Lordship's letter of the
29th, respecting the rumoured intention to open the
Post-office on Sundays,' I can state that there is no such
intention.
" The change actually proposed by the Post-office
authorities has been announced in the newspapers, and
your Lordship will be enabled by that announcement to
judge of its probable bearing and effect.—l have the
bouour to be, your Loidship's most obedient servant,
" J. RUSSELL.

"The Lord Mayor.
—(Partial hissing, and evident marks of disapproba-
tion.) lam sure, gentlemen, that if you had known
the Noble Lord as long as, I am happy to say, I have
had the honour of knowing him, no one here, what-
ever parties in this city may differ from his public
life or his political views, I think would deny that
my Lord John Russell and his amiable lady are
patterns of exemplary piety and strict observers of
the Christian Sabbath. Therefore, lam satisfied in
my own mind that Lord John Russell will never lend
himself to any measure tending to desecrate the
Sabbath.—(Loud cheers.) I felt it my duty, gen-
tlemen, this morning, before coming here, to go to the
Post-office authorities, and to ascertain, as far asl
could, what really was the measure which they had in
Contemplation.—(Hear, hear.) I had the honour of
seeing the Secretary and Mr. Rowland Hill, and I
obtained official copies of the notice which has been
issued, and which perhaps it is not necessary to read,
unless some individual here has not seen it. Though
this notice, from appearances, would rather seem to
be intended for the purpose of relieving the country
districts, there is a lurking suspicion in my mind
that, ultimately, if this measure be carried, we shall
have the Post-office in this city open on Sundays.—
(Loud cheers.) Mr. Rowland Hill assured me that
this measure was only meant to carry through Lon-
don those letters which arrive from abroad, or from
a distance, in order not to delay them here twenty-
four hours, and that it would only give additional
employment to twenty-five men —(Hisses)—while
at the same time it would relieve upwards of two
thousand men now employed in the country districts.
Ile further assured me that these 25 additional men
will only be required at ten o'clock on Sunday morn-
ing and in the evening after five o'clock, so that the
new arrangement will not interfere with the perform-
ance of their religious duties.—(Hisses.) That,
gentlemen, is the explanation which I have bad from
the Post-office authorities, and now I will state what
I consider this proposed alteration will lead to.—
(Cheers.) The notice to which I have alluded states
" that to facilitate the above arrangements, and at the
same time to promote the public convenience, letters
posted at provincial offices on the blank post day for
towns beyond London, shall, if stamped and paying full
letter-rates, be forwarded as on other days, so as to be
delivered, except in remote places, on Monday morning."
I will tell you what I think that will lead to. It is
impossible, in this great commercial country, that any
towns could obtain an advantage by having their
letters forwarded through the London Post- office on
a Sunday, without the commercial community of
London receiving some injury.—(Cheers.) It is
quite apparent to ins that this great community will
suffer a severe injustice if these Sunday arrange-
ments are persevered in ; and though I believe it
willing to remain under that injustice rather than
apply to the Government or the Post-office authori-
ties for an extension of the arrangements to London,
yet there are some in the City who look only after
their own interests, and who would gladly go to the
Government and say, "As you have given other towns
the benefit of a delivery of letters on a Sunday, why
not extend the same advantage to us? "—(near,
hear.) Ido trust, as this measure does not appear
to have been called for by any representation
made in London or elsewhere, that it will not be car-
ried into effect. There has been no excuse for
getting in what I fear will act as a " wedge"—
(Cheers)—and as I remember a similar proposal was
successfully opposed ten years ago, I hope the same
spirit that then successfully defeated it will be
brought to bear against the proposition now.—
(Cheers.) Gentlemen, Ido not think it necessary
to detain you by making any further observations. I
regret not being able to remain here to the close of
the -proceedings, because there is a Common Council
meeting at one o'clock, which I cannot possibly put
off attending, as there is some very important busi-
ness before it. Allow me to say, gentlemen, before
I leave the hall, that I shall be happy to take charge
of any memorial or petition to any party whatever,
either to the Prime Minister or to the Postmaster-
, General, and to do anything else which you may
' think necsssary to give effect to the resolutions passed
at this meeting.—(Loud cheers.)
Mr. MASTERMAN, M.P., having been called upon
to ma-7e the first resolution, said, he had been invited
to take part in the proceedings of* this day, and
he did so with the greatest pleasure and satis-
tection, considering that they met to solicit the
interference of Government to prevent the carry-
ing out of regulations at the Post- office
that may lead to great desecration of the
Sabbath.—(Hear, hear.) Several respectable indi-
viduals had applied to him on this subject before to-
day, and he had felt it to be his duty to communicate
with the Post-office authorities before he took any
. steps the matter.—(bear, hear.) He had accord-
ingly received the following replies to his communi-
cations. The first was from the Postmaster General,
and it was this :

"Portumna, Ireland, Oct. 1, 1849

" Dear Sir,—There is not the slightest truth in any
manner of our intention to establish a delivery of letters
on Sunday in London.

" Tb.e Consequence of the measure lately adopted will,
I truP,t, be to very much diminish Sundry labour in the
post-offices throughout the United Kingdom, and like-
w;.se to put a stop to much letter-writing on Sunday in
'private establishments.—Sincerely yours,

CLINRICARDE.'

The next reply was to this effect :
" General Post-office, Sept. 28, 1849.
" Sir,—ln reply to your communication of this day,
addressed to Colonel Maherly, who is now absent from
Loudon, I beg leave to acquaint you, that the measure
to which you alluded will not cause any change whatever
as regards bile arrival or dispatch of Lleonedorsn
in letters
London
on
Sundays; there will be no delivery
on that day, and the Post-office willftt
not be open l'or the
receipt of letters.
" I beg leave to add that the main object of the mea-
sure in question is to afford relief on the Sunday at the
provincial offices.
" I have the honour to be, Sir,
" Your most obedient humble servant,
" J. TILLEY, Assistant Secretary."
It might not be the intention of the Government
immediately to establish Sunday deliveries in the me-
tropolis, but the arrangement would lead to that re-
sult; and he most decidedly objected to any measure
for the relief of the provincial offices that
would throw more weight on the main es-
tablishment in London.—(Rear, hear.) If
the Post-office authorities really desiredtorelieavuettiehse,
provincial offices from some of their Sunday
he could suggest to them a better and an easier plan
to accomplish that object thau the proposed arrange-
ment.—(Hear, hear.) It was to abolish the delivery
of letters on Sundays all over England. As time was
voluble, he was not sorry that it was unnecessary
for him to say more than that he perfectly agreed
with what had fallen from the Right Hon. Gentle-
man in the chair; and would at once conclude with
moving the following resolution :
" That this meeting has observed, with regret and
alarm, the proposed tr. w regulations in the General
Post-uffice, by which a large amount of Sunday labour
will be requirel in that establishment; and it is unable
to perc,ive any reason why the slight relief offered to
tv.e country ofa:es should be bound u? with the com-
mencement of so great an evil in London."— (Cheers.)
Mr. RonAntEs, who had the misfortune to be la-
bouring under indisposition, contented himself with
simply seconding the resolution, and expressing his
concurrence in all that had fallen from the two pre-
ceding speakers.—(Hear, hear.)
The resolution was then put and carried unani-
mously.
Mr. LABOUCHERE moved the second resolution us