The Sun.
London, England, 1814-05-05 00:00:00

TRtATIES

My. WHITBREAD hoped that before fixing the.
tht,i,- for the discut,sion of the papers laid on the
table, the Right Hon:Gentleman (the Chancellor
of rite Exchequer) would allow sufficient time for
any Gentleman to move for such further papers as
he tni,,ght; deem necessary. In the second article
of the Treaty laid' on the table, it was expressly
stated, that-it became necessary, in consequence of
the refusal, to agree to a proposal before made. It
woild, -therefore, 4e impossih:e to judge of thiS
necessity, unless the House should he informed
respecting that proposal be also wished to know
whether a Treaty concluded with the late Em-
peror of France; on the Hilt of April last, would
or W,otthl not be laid-on the table. It had been
said that a British Officer had, in consequence of
that. Treaty, accompanied the late/Euiperor -of
France on his way to the Isle ot Elba.
The CHANCELLOR 01 the EXCHEQUER said, that
he shOuld certainly give sufficient time for ativ
Gentleman to move v,l- at further Papers he might
t hiuk prOper. As to the other question, all Trea-
ties to which-this Cpuntry was a party would cer-
tainly, be communicated to the House.in the pro-
per course of roue.
Mr. WHITBREAD wished the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman would state,' whether there was or not
such a Treaty as lie hal alluded to ? It was un-
derstood that the British Minister refused to ac-
cede to it, but that nevertheless a British Officer
superintended the execution of it. , .

The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER did not
think it proper for him to answer the question. '

SINKING FUND.
Mr. Grt.r.NF_gLL rose, principally for the purpose

,cx-plai9ing,a poiut on which he and an Hon.
Bank Director (i\li%. S. Thornton) were at issue.
That Hon. Gentleman had given, from his rccol-
lection, an observation of the late IVIr. Pitt. He
could not speak from his, ow recollection, as he

was not then i❑ noliament, lh►►t he would refer
to those sources, from which those who were not
in the House must take their information. He
then began to read an extract from the Parlia-
mentary Register, , •
The SPEAIcER observed, that it -was contrary
to the usual customs of that
_House to read printed
ac-counts of Debates, in contradittion to the state-
ment of a Member-frorn his recollection.

A long conversation tool: plaCe on the point of
order, when Mr. TIEnNEY, Mr: WinTßagAn, and
Alt. BANKS xrete of 'opinion that it was custo-
mary, and that there was no objection to a Mem-
ber reading, as part of his speech, the pfOceedings
of a fornier Parlianient.

Mr. GRENFE-Li. wa3permitted-ta read-that which
he w:ished -to submit to the House. Ile emo't'ed
for an Account of all. the Mbnies paid by the Com-
missioners for the liedeniption of the National
Debt, and the amount of the Capital StOck par-
cliaSed; beating interest_ the rate of • three per
cent. from the coinmencement- of the year 793-,
up to the end of the year ISO r, together with the
price of eacb.lool. and otbei.-Roeutnents.
Mr. ItustussoN expressed his'hope and wish,
that his Majesty',s Ministers_ would, as soon as
circumstances, would allow,, turn their minds to"
the „subject of all such tetrtuchments as were
most likely to lessen the burthens of-the public.

The CCANCELLOR of •the EXCHEQUER assured.
his' HMI. f I fiend, , that Ministers had it much at
heart to proceed with retrenchments as sinedily
as
,possible ; bat lie thought it necessary to re-
mind the House, that while they contemplated
thAe desirable purposs, there might be some
cases in which it would be necessary to look for-
ward•to some eirettiiiitances which would-call.for
an increase of expellee : he-meant, a part pay-
ment of the debt of gratitude we all ov.,ed to our
Navy and Army, which, could only be done by
somt additio❑ to the hall-9ay
• •
. .

The Simple Contract Bill was.ieait a third time, and passed.
, The Slave Trade Ships. Bill •was read a, second time, and
ordered to hCcomMitted to-morrow.

The Report of the Committee on the Sugar Drawback Bill
was read and agreed to, and a Bill ordered to be brought in
on the Resolution therein contained:
The Scotch Creditor Bill was postponod till to-morrow.
The Report of the Foundling Hospital Bill was agreed to,
and the Bill ordered to be read a third time to=mu'rrow.
Adjourned.

EAST INDIA-HOUSE.

Yesterday a General Court of Proprietors was
held at the India-flouse,, to take into considera-
tion the renewal of Certain Pensions granted by
the,Company, the periods of. which have now, ex-

rIJ~CI^

Previously* to entering upon this subject, atrad-
dition of 6001. per annum WAS voted to, Mr.
. ' aculloctc, Sepretar3r in the Office of -Examiuer
India Correspondence 3- and SOOT. per anntun' to
Mr: Richard Owen, who had been, 45 years
Chief -Clerk in the Secretary's Office, and who
wished to retire.

The Chairman (Mr. ELM:TINS:PONE) anndunced
to the Com t, that is would .be inconsistent with
the regular Mode of proceeding, to come to 'any
final determination then on _the subject of the
expired pensions, as that would he decided on
future day. Certain Resolutions of the Court of
Directors would be read to the Proprietors, on
which, at a future period, they would have to
decide.

The first resolution respected the renewal of
the pension that had beer, granfed to Mr. Ilast-
ingS, and stated that the. court, into its
consideration the case of Mr. Hastings, and the
great services renelered by him to the East-Innia
Company, were of, opinion, that the pe►►sion of
40001. per a►lnum that had formerly, bee►► granted
ta him, and which had then expired, should be
continued for his life.—(Loud applause). '
Mr. R. JAcxsoN thought that the- grounds a
the recommendation of the Court of- Directors
should be given more in detail t4o'the Proprietors,
as the right of.deciding upon the recommendation
resided in them.

The CHAIRMAN observed, that a bare notice only
was at present intended to be given and that with
respect to the proposed grant, the Court were al-
ready in possession of all the facts. He feared

ttiat the Vdiierable ehatacter for lirbom it Was in-
tended would not live long to etdoY it.
-DICKSON thought the bare name of Has=
tings sufficient to sanction the proposed grata.
The CnAtuntAN said, that Mr-Hastings, at a
very advanced period of life, bad come to town to
defend the privileges of the Company.
-Mr. LOVNDES contended, that the grant to Mr.
Hastings should he 8000/..as that now was ,tsri
more than eqtdvalent to 40001. at the time this
last sum had been agreed upon; at least he trusted
it 1-ould be made 60001.
The next resolution-was a grant for life to Sir
J. Kennaway of a pension of 500/. per annum,
the period of M)liCti had expired.
The CH AI R N then proceedd to state, that
the next Resolution regarded the-pension that had
been granted v) the Marquess Wellesley: On
such a subject he was confident there 'could be but
one opinion, on account of-the distinguished see-
vices of the Noble Marquess, both to flit, COm-
pany, and tr) the • Country—(Loud applanse).-
By his able and zealous exert ions, he had saved
India, and rendcrtd that country the highest or—
nament in the British Crown, The pension had
originally been granted for 20 ,:ears, of which four
and •a half remained unexpired at the expiry of
the Charter.
The object ,of the present Resolution _was, a.
recommendation to the Court of Proprietors to
continue it during the life of the. Noble Marquess.
(Applause.)
Mr. R.JActtsoN'siglitified his warn) approbation
of tlie proposed grant, though he did. not put the
splendid' services of that illustrious Nobleman
upon the.footing of aby peeuhiary compensation.
For such. services the Court could give, no ade-
quate rovard but even, in a pccuniary,point 'of
view, the. grant was not commensurate to the
Services.
Mt'. 'W. KEENE conside'red Lord Wellesley as
one Of those extraordinary men, brought forward
by frovidence, in times of difficulty and danger,
for the welfare and happinesii of mankind. But
for Lord Welle'slay, India most have been lost to
Britaitr, and fallen a prey to the ambition of Bac-
naparte. In that country also, and 'under the au-
spices of his brother, did Lord Wellington conii-
'pence that career of 'military glory, which he had
'so gloriously coMtimmated in Europe, by saving
the civilised world.
Alderman,„ArkiNs-regarded with admiration the
great services of Lord, Wellesley, who had always
looked to the-interest of his country, but never to
any private advantage_of his bun.
Mr. HUME
,moved, that the Resolution of 1800,
granting the pension to Lord Wellesley, should
be read. :The Resolution was read accordingly,
stating thc great services of the Noble Lord, and
that in a dispatch from the Court of Directors,
that, -Court had acknowledged that the salvation
of India-was to be ascribed to his efforts. The
Resolution also stated, that the Noble Marquess
had anticipated the recotinnendation of the Court of
Directors, on the subject of crushing the French
influence in India ; and by his. influence, a body
of .14,000 men, among whom were twenty-five
French Officers, hall'been disbanded, and thus the
Subah of the Dtkkan had been left at liberty to
unite his forces with those of the Company. The
Honourable Proprietor went.rin to observe, that
the Noble Lord had made a prodigious addition
to our territories in India-; and that it might well
he made a question, if the proposed grant were
adequate. An offer had been made to the Noble
Lord •by the Court of Directors, with .the sanc-
tion of 'his Majesty's Government, of the suns of
100,000/. from .the booty taken at Seringapatam ;
but this he had declined, because, ashe said, it was
the due of the Conquerors of the Mysore. Some-
thing more should be done- tit-an the bare conti-
nuance of a p,erision for life.' The conduct of the
Noble Lord- had been tried, and he had come out
clear from.tbe -trial :and he trusted that the Court
would think thatnone of their servant; had, in
ability and zeal for the interest of the Company,
exceeded Lord Wellesley. lie could wish to see
a-titattte erected to that Noble Lord within the
walls of that Court, And lie should make a mo-
tion to that effect On a' future day. _
The: CHAIRMAN expressed his-opinion,-that any
motion of thatnature.wouldbe }yell received,,but
the present . was not.the proper -day to bring it
forward. He• then proceeded to state, that the
Earl of Buckinghamshire (whose pension was the
next in the list) had -requegted that the subject
might not be brought forward. The last pension
that had been granted was to the late Lord Mel-
ville, who at his death hadleftbis affairs in a very
embarrassed state, and whose son,- having taken
upon him the payment of his father's debts, bad
beets much-distressed then, in consequenee'of
action that did so much honour to his filial piety.
Considering; the eminent services rendered to the
CoMpany..Mr. Pundits, it might. be thought' a
welf,judged" act of liberality- to assist ;

and perhaps, on a future day, some Gentleman
might make a 'motion on the subject.--A letter
was then read from the Earl of Putchinghatushie,
expressing his warm approbation of the conti-
nuance of the pension of Lorit Wellesley, and
stating, that 20,0001. of the late Lord Melville's
debts remained as yet unpair,l; anti that, perhaps,
the Court of Proprietors might think proper to
continue the pension e,,ranted to the late Lord

till that suip should bedischar!;ed. For himself,
lie should accept of no pension while he was in
office ; and wished that question to be -discussed
ohly,.‘vhen should leave the .3uard of Coutroul.
_

. JACKSON was of opinion, that the de-
scendants of Lord Melville had a claim on the

liberality of the. Court,
,as it was in a great mea-
sure by means of Lord Melville that the Company
now existed.
Mr. LOWNDES had two years ago proposect.an
addition to Maiqness Wellesley's pension. He
asked, if his brother (formerly Sir Arthur Welles-
ley)- had a pension; and being answered in the
negative, signiiied his intention to fill up that gap
in the pension list. He thought the pension
stiould be continued to the present Laid
till his father's debts were paid.; and hefalso pro-'
posed to move:an.increase to Mr. Hastings and

i‘larquess Wellesley, and hoped no Gentleman
would fake the measure out of his hands.

General .1-TARAts could say nothing too strong
on the subject of Lord Wellesley. The Noble
Lord had given him almost unlimited powers,when
he went to besiege Seringapatam.; and 'bad he

not heed invested t% id! such poNCTS,
could jult have been taken. •
Alderman ATKINS said. the question at lire`""'..
was, as to the letter of LOrd Buckinghamshire.
and mOVed, that the Court of Directors show.,
tike into consideration that part of
the Jett
garding thelate Lord Melville, and At Pot t tfr"..
the same to the Court of Prbprietors..
The motion, after sonic observations% on
part of Mr, Hum, Mr. Twlss, and the DeP,Tri
Chairman (Mr. J.. INGLiS), was seconded b)
JAcKso:c.
Mr. LOWNDES,. Mr. R. THORNTON, Mr.
SHED KEENE, and Mr. LUCHINGTON, 1411 11,11 e(
the propriety'of doing something for the familF,i
a man who bad been so .great a benefactor tol4'
Company as Lord Melville had been.. jliit
It was then-agreed to, that the motion on
.•
subject should originate with the Directors.
It was then rescilved, that the letter of Vl`
Buckinghamshire should be printed. fot
The discussion of these resolutions was 11';"
this day three weeks.