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London, England, 1849-03-07 00:00:00

ITALY.

INVASION OF TUSCANY BY THE AUSTRIANS.
The Siecle, of yesterday states, that the French
Government had received dispatches announcing that
the Austrian army had invaded Tuscany. The
Austrian Government, claim a right to enter the
Tuscan territory, under the treaties which guarantee
the Grand Duchy of Tuscany to Austria, on the
failure of the line of the present GRAND Duxe, or
on his retirement from the Government.
By a decree of the 24th ultimo, of the Pro-
visional Government of Florence, the convocation
of the electoral colleges is prorogued to the 12th
of March. By another decree, the two manors of
Coltano and San Rossore are given in guarantee for
the new Treasury Bonds to the amount of Y 60,000
lire (635,0000
It is stated that important correspondence with
DE LAUGIEN has been intercepted, and deposited in
the hands of justice. The facts in question, being
anterior to the establishment of the military commis-
sion, will be judged by the ordinary tribunals.
A camp of Tuscan troops is to be formed at

Pistoia.
The Costituente Italiana, of the 26th ult., says :
" We know positively that GnititAzZl and D'APICB,
at the head of a strong column, yesterday made a
solemn entry into Massa. The fortress displayed the
white flag."
The Alin of Florence of the 26th ult. says,—
" To-day will be published a decree dissolving the
military commission, as all danger of civil war is
passed."
Cardinal A.NrromiLLl, the Pro-Secretary of State
of the PoPE, has, in the name of his HOLINESS, ad-
dressed the following protests to all the diplomatists
resident at Gaeta against the confiscation of the
property of the Church by the Roman Constituent
Assembly. It is dated at Gaeta, on February 19.
"The assembly of factious men which, usurping the
title of deputies of the people, has established itself in
the capital of the Pontifical States, under the title or the
Roman Constituent Assembly, advancing with an ardent
audacity in the application of its system of impiety, in-
justice, and destruction, has lately occupied itself with
two projected laws by which all the property called mort-
main is declared to be the property of the State, reserv-
ing certain provisos for insuring the effect of this sacri-
legious spoliation of all property, both real and personal,
which this faction presumes to decree against the
churches, and all religious establishments without ex-
ception. This attempt of these factious men, as well as
all their other attempts, past and to come, already stand
condemned from their ♦ery source by preceding publi-
cations of the Holy Father, and principally by the
solemn act issued by him on January 1. But, seeing
the diabolical artifices and manoeuvres which the authors
of these spoliations will not fail to employ, in order to
gain as quickly as possible the benefit of their interested
views, the Holy Father, in his double capacity of Sove-
reign Pontiff and Sovereign of the States, has thought
fit to warn all those who at this time have, or hereafter
may have, to treat for the said property with the self
called Government of Rome, or those acting under it,
that the provisions in question of the Roman
Assembly involve the violation of the ancient
and modern laws which, and above all in the
Pontifical States, have ever guaranteed the property
of churches and pious establishments, and also
a violation of the sacred rights of the Church of Jesus
Christ, as well as the laws it has laid down for the pro-
tection of its possessions, and for preventing their being
diverted from the religious or pious uses to which they
are destined. If the said self-called Constituent Assem-
bly pretends, as appears by the generality of the words
it employs, to reach not only ecclesiastical and pious
property, but also the possessions of the University and
other foundations purely laic and civil, the measures
taken by it are perfectly null and void in law, as ema-
nating from a band of factious men, who, by all kinds
of acts of ♦iolence, fraud, and ingratitude, have
usurped the legitimate authority, in order to oppress,
much more than to govern the States of the
Holy Church. The will of his Holiness, there-
fore is, that it be made known to all, and especially
to foreigners of every state or nation, that all the
grants and alienations, whether for long terms of years
or in perpetuity, all mortgages or other contracts of
whatever nature they may be, which nay bo made or
entered into by the said self called Roman Assembly and
Government, or by those claiming under them, of which
ecclesiastical property, whether real or personal, and all
other property held in mgrtmain, may be the object,
are and shall be null and of no effect, and shall be con-
sidered as done by men who, by a public and manifest
spoliation, have usurped the property of another. Con-
sequently, no cause, no motive, no pretext shall in any
manner render them valid, even when the contracts are
such as the Church or pious establishments have been ac-
customed to enter into, or even acts already commenced,
in virtue of the Pontifical authority, or of the authority
of the bishops or other legitimate superiors within the
limits of their respective legitimate jurisdictions. For
from such authorisations, or from any other analogous
circumstance, it can never be inferred that a manifest
usurper can do, continue, or consummate that which can
be done only by the legitimate owner or administrator.
This is why the churches and other establishments in
mortmain shall have, in all times hereafter, the right of
recovering their real and personal property, free from all
charges with which they may have, been burdened by the
usurpers, as well as the arrears of the produce of it in
the mean time. Those who may have made purchases of
them, or entered into any contract with regard to them,
cannot reclaim from the lawful owners either the
prices agreed upon, or any other compensation. They
shall have no claims upon any one except the
usurpers with whom they may have contracted. In conse-
quence of this manifested will of the Sovereign Pontiff,
the undersigned Cardinal, Pro-Secretary of State, has
made it known to your Excellency, by the express com-
mand of the Holy Father, requesting you at the same
time to hasten to communicate it to your Government,
in order that its contents may have the greatest possible
publicity, so that all such persons as may bo drawn into
contracts as to the property in question may not be able
to plead ignorance. The undersigned is happy in hav-
ing the opportunity of renewing to your Excellency the
expression of his sentiments of esteem and distinguished
consideration.

" Cardinal ANTONELLI."

Letters from Rome, by Vienna, announce that
Austria has offered the POPE aid in men and money.
The CZAR has declared himself in his favour. The
POPE is said to have obtained a loan of six millions of
scudi in Russia.

In the Chamber of Deputies of Turin, of the 27th
ult., BARGAGNI proposed an amendment to the ad-
dress, engaging the Government to send four depu-
ties to the Roman Constituante, unless the resump-
tion of hostility with Austria should immediately
take place. The Ministry renewed the declaration
that they would remain completely aloof from the
Constituante. The amendment was rEjected.

THE INDIAN COMMAND.
DETENTION OF THE MAIL.

It will be seen, by reference to our Parliamentary
report, that Lord John Russell announced last evening
that her Majesty had entrusted the command of the In-
dian forces to Lieutenant-General Sir Charles J. Napier,
which we were enabled to announce in our Third Edi-
tion yesterday. Sir C. J. Napier had interviews in the
morning with the Duke of Wellington and Lord John
Russell, and it was arranged that the mail for India, via
Marseilles, which should have gone out this evening, will
be delayed several days, to enable the new Commander-
in-Chief to arrange everything so as to depart with it
with the least possible delay.
Thus Sir William Gomm, to whom dispatches have
been actually sent by the Government, appointing him
to to the command will be at once superseded by one to
whom the public now look with so much confidence as
the best successor to the present Commander-in• Chief
in the Punjaub.
Two regiments, viz , the 75th and 87th Foot will, it
is said, embark for India as soon as tonnage can be
provided by the East India Company.

The Norfolk Chronicle of Saturday informs its
readers—" That the Bishop of Oxford is about to lead
to the altar the amiable and accomplished daughter of
Baron Alderson, with whom his Lordship spent a few
days, on the occasion of his visit to the opening of the
church."

LLOYD'S 61-111)PING.—(THIS DA Y:,
LONDON, MARCH 7.—Wind at noon, S.W., freAt
breeze and cloudy.
PLYMOUTH, MARCH 6.—Wind W.-slb, Sld. Dorothy,
Adelaide, South Australia; 6th, Victor, Kirkus, Hobart
Town.

GUERNSEY, MARGIT 3.—Sld. Atalanta, Havre.
PORTSMOUTH, 111ARcli 6.—Wind S.S.W. to W.—Sid.
Dundee, Havannah. A quantity of standing and run-
ning rigging, with blocks attached, a topmast, a topsail
yard, and topsail, marked " H.N.," apparently foreign,
and belonging to a vessel of about 150 tons, have been
picked up off Calves Cliff, and landed here to-day.
Her Majesty's ship Suporb, in being towed out of the
harbour, swung toul of the I. 0. brig, of Sunderland,
and carried away her main•topinast, sprung the fore-
topma-a cap, &e.
SWANSEA, MARCH 6.—The Ismail (French brig),
from 'Freon to a French port, has been brought in here a
derelict by the Troubadour, hiving been touud near the
Crow Rock abandoned, and with loss of rudder, but
without other damage.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, March 6.
SICILY.

Lord STANLEY, in putting the question, of which
he had given notice, would abstain from any obst r-
vations on the events which had taken place i❑
Sicily during the last twelve months. He would assume
that through the intervention of the British admirals
an armistice had been enforced between the King of
the Two Sicilies, our aly on the one side, and the Pro-
visional Government of the insurgents in Sicily, on the
other. This armistice was of great advantage to the
Sicilians, inasmuch as it gave them an opportu-
nity of purchaahing arms and paying for them by forced
contributions levied on the wealthier inhabitants who ad-
hered with unflinching loyalty to the King. He had
been informed that a contractor who had contracted to
supply arms to the Sicilians had also entered into a con-
tract to supply arms to the British Government, and
he had been informed that, being unable to per-
form his contract with Sicily, he had applied
to the Ordnance for permission to withdraw
certain arms from the Government stores to which they
had been supplied by the contractor, in order to enable
him to complete his contract with the Sicilian Govern-
ment. The Ordnance demurred until the sanction
of the Executive Government should be obtained,
and the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs
authorised such withdrawal. This ho consi-
dered a proceeding of a very questionable
character, and, in his judgment, not consistent with the
maintenance of strict and impartial neutrality.—(Hear,
hear.) His wished to ask the Noble Marquis whether
the facts were has he had stated them. lie should re-
joice to find that he was mistaken. He should reserve
any expression of opinion as to this transaction to the
period which could not be far distant, for, on the receipt
of the answer of the King of the Two Sicilies to the ul-
timatum sent from this country, the negotiations would
be brought to a close, and there would then be no objec-
tion, ha conceived, to lay before their Lordships all the
materials necessary fur a full discussion at the whole
subject.—(Hear, hear.)
The Marqeis of LANSDOWN/ll—The matter alluded
to by the Noble Lord lies within a very narrow compass.
Unquestionably there is a foundation for the question
which the Noble Lord has asked, and lam now
extremely glad to have an opportunity of
stating all the circumstances. A contractor who
bad been habitually a contractor in the service of her
Majesty's Government, did in the autumn of
last year (I believe previous to the armistice) make an
application to the Board of Ordnance, for the purpose
of being allowed to take back certain guns which he
had make for her Majesty's service, to enable him to
fulfil another contract fur the use of the Sicilian Go-
vernment at that time.—(Hear, hear.) The Boatel of
Ordnance did make some application on the subject to
the Foreign Department, and unfortunately it did re-
ceive from the Foreign Department instructions to afford
facility to the contractor, and did allow him to take back
those guns. lam ready to say, that when this transac•
tion came to be considered by her Majesty's Govern-
ment, although they did not believe that it amcunted to
any direct interference in the contest going on between
Naples and Sicily, yet that it was liable to misconception
and might be considered a direct interference; and,
therefere, it was the deliberate opinion of her Majesty's
Government that it was a matter of regret that that per-
mission had not been withheld—(Hear)—and acting
according to that line of duty which should al-
ways be observed, and especially between two powers
like England and Naples—the latter being comparatively
a less power, it was felt that this country should be be-
forehand in tendering satisfaction, and at the commence-
ment of the present year Mr. Temple was instructed to
explain the nature, and the ,whole amount and extent
of the transaction, and to add that it had occurred
through inadvertence, and that measures would be taken
for the future to prevent the recurrence of any such
inadvertence.—(Hear.)
Lord BROUGHAM said that his Noble Friend had
mentioned the Sicilian Government. He must mean the
insurgents in Italy.—(Hear.)
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE—I meant the Go-
vernment de facto existing in Sicily.
Lord lIROUGHAM.—You can no more call that a
Sicilian Government than you can call Mr. Smith
O'Brien and his committee the English Government.—
("pear, hear," and laughter.)

The Earl of ELLEN'BOROUGH would not enter into

the discussion of the general question, although he had
a strong feeling as to the obligations incurred by Eng-
land with regard to Sicily in 1813. They had a consti-
tution before 1813, in respect of which they stood
much in the same position as England stood to
its constitution before William 111. The consti
tution of 1813 was guaranteed by Great Britain. In
181 i the constitution was reconstructed, Sicily was
united to Naples, and their constitution was destroyed.
The Sicilians were now in arms for that constitu-
tion. They were instil-gents, as the Barons of England
were insurgents against King John—as the people of
England were insurgents against James 11. They were
in arms to recover their constitution, and when that
matter came to be debated, he trusted that the decision
wou!d be such as to maintain the honour of the country.
The Earl of ABERDEEN thought we had nothing to
do with the cause for which the Sicilians were in arms.
If we had given guarantees to them we should support
them, but if we had not it was disgraceful not to observe
a strict neutrality. With regard to the transaction
which had given rise to this discussion, ho should not,
after the explanation of the Noble Marquis, pursue the
subject further.
The Duke of WELLINGTONfsaid the King of the
Two Sicilies assumed the title in ♦irtue of the treaty of
Vienna, and that the union of the two king-
doms took place in virtue of that treaty, sand
that treaty the Government of this country was
bound. The Government was not bound to

enforce the execution of the treaty upon others, but it
was bound itself not to depart from the letter of the
treaty, and ho hoped no step had been taken by this
country which could be construed into a breach of the

articles of that treaty.
The Earl of MINTO said that though he had endea-
voured, and had been most anxious, to effect an accom-
modation of the differences Letween the King of Naples
and his Sicilian subjects, and to maintain the union
between the two Crowns, he never consented to treat
the Sicilians as a people in open rebellion against their
lawful sovereign; but, on the contrary, he had always
considered them as having engaged in the assertion of
rights for which, at least, a very meritorious case had
been made out.
Lord BROUGIIAM said he thought the Noble Lord
who had just spoken had either forgotten to look over
the treaty of Vienna lately, or else seemed to consider it
as having no bearing on the question. If the Noble Earl
had not a copy of the treaty, he should be happy to
send him one, and would earnestly recommend him to
examine the papers on the question before the discussion
came on.

The Earl of MINTO said ho was perfectly acquainted
with the contents of the treaty of Vienna; bat the 104th
act of it, which most related to the present:question, only
provided for the restoration to the King of the Sicilies
his Neapolitan dominions, and recognised his title as King
of the Two Sicilies.

The subject then dropped.
IRISH PRISONS.

Lord MONTEAGLE moved for Irish criminal re-
turns, and for returns showing the mortality in the pri-
sons of Ireland, during each of the last five years. The
Noble Lord, in speaking of the increase of crime which
had recently been observed in Ireland, said that although
a great portion of it was no doubt attributable to the
augmentation of distress and indigence, a very injurious
effect had been had upon it by certain measures, to say
the least of them, of a very doubtful policy. He meant
the abolition of the punishment of transportation, without
the substitution of other penal discipline, and the repeal
of the Vagrant Act. The Noble Lord concluded by
moving for the returns in the usual form, to be furnished
by the Inspector of Prisons.
Earl GREY said that the Noble Lord had assumed
throughout his speech that the removal of convicts
from Ireland under sentence of transportation had
been discontinued. The Noble Lord had stated that
circumstance, and other circumstances, as facts, but
they were only imaginary facts. So far from the
removal of convicts having been discontinued, the
numbers had gone on increasing, as was apparent
from the returns which he held in his hand of the
transportations during the five years ending in 1845, and
the three succeeding years. The sentence of transporta-
tion, indeed, had been exercised of late very indiscrimi-
nately. The grand jury in Ireland, he must say, had
not exercised the functions placed in their hands by the
Act in a proper manner, and were much to blame in not
having provided increased accommodation for the pri•
sorters, a neglect of duty with which they were charge-
able. Ile might communicate to their Lordships that
prison establishments were in course of erection at Ber-
muda and Spike Island, owing to the defective accommo-
dation at Van Diemen's Land and Norfolk Island. The
number of prisoners transported from Ireland to those
two last-named places was so great, that many of them
died from overcrowding. On those considerations Port •
land appeared to he a desirable place to send transports
from Ireland to. But there was great misdirection with
regard to the class of convicts sent out from Ireland,
many of them being truly unfit for transp Itation, so
much so that, on their arrival at Bermuda, the governor
of that island reported that they were truly unable to
stand the voyage, and that fever to a great extent had
broken out amongst them.

The Duke of RICHMOND said it was very inconve-
nient that when one Irish Peer made a statement, another
rose and contradicted it. He was surprised how the
magistrates could commit persons to gaol whose condition
was such that they were likely to die on tho voyage out,
and who seemed to him to be more objects for an hos-
pital than for the severity of law.
Lord MONTEAGLE replied, and expreEsel ))14 our-

prise at hewing. the Government cast blame in this mat-
ter on the grand jury, wh,reas blame—if Um- there was
—was &largeithi” the Government offic-r whose
auty it was to make out the returns. He tL,rd llont-
e,gle) made l,i. Stalk-Mrnts on the official documents
which had been laid on the table of their Lord-hips'
House—those documents, c•msistinc,r of returns, were now
said to be erroneous; they were on the table of their
Lordships' House since the list session, and although
complained of as erroneous, no attempt was made by the
Government officer whose duty it was to make them up,
to correct them.

Earl GREY explained his statement I+ith re3pect to
:be documents on which the Noble Lord (lionteagie)
:Minded his motion to the House.

The motion was then ngreed to.
On the motion of the 'Marquis of L &NSDOW NE, the
Irish Distress Bill, the Vice-Guardians Bill, and the
Buckinghamshire Summer Assize* Bill, were read a
third time.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Marrh 6.
RATE IN AIIUIRELAND) BILL.

(Continued from our Third Edition of last night.)
Mr. GROGAN then entered into a series of statisti-
cal dotsils relative to the number and cost of the
paupers in the Bellyshannon and Nenagh unions under
the guardians, as compared with the period under the
charge of Mr. Darcy, and contended that the increased
cost in the latter case was owing to the extravagance of
the Government officials, and that the Government itself
was responsible for the present state of affairs in these
unions. He believed that the guardians elected by the
rate-pajers had been unnecessarily and unjustifiably re-
moved, and vice-guardians substituted, instead of the
guardians being aided, as they ought to have been, by
competent officers. One of the hest features in the plan
of the Noble Lord was his proposition of a maximum.
The real cause which prevented the cultivation of the
land, and the improvement of wastes by the landed pro-
prietors, was in many cases the fear that the results of
such employment and improvement would be swallowed
up by the paupers on other estates. With respect to the
proposal of the Right Hon. Baronet, the Member for
Tamworth, of a plantation in Connaught should be made
similar to that in Ulster, at a former period in its his-
tory, he should be very happy to see such a plantation,
if he saw similar results likely to follow. But it could
not be effected without the commission of great indivi-
dual injustice to certain families, and to proprietors who
were willing and ready to discharge all the duties
of their position, and to provide employment, but who
were deprived of the means of doing se, and had not
got that support from the Government which they ought
to have done. He had been assured by numerous pro-
prietors in Mayo that they were quite willing to take
upon themselves the responsibility of providing employ-
ment and of supporting the poor on their own estates,
but they had themselves been pauperised by the burdens
thrown on them from other quarters ; the consequence
was that the land was now lying waste, and every-
body who had a little money was flying from the
country. how were they to stop these people from
going ? A plan to effect that would be much more
beneficial than a mere plan to redistribute burdens,
especially when that redistribution was founded upon
such palpable injustice. They said the people of Ulster
were loyal, peaceable, and industrious, and because they
were so they were to be taxed for the support of ano-
ther portion of the island.—(Hear, hear.) For his own
part, he was firmly convinced that a limitation of the
area of taxstiou was the only foundation upon which
a better system could be placed. No one thing was, in
his opinion, so well calculated to draw out the resources
of Ireland as limiting the area of taxation, and had that
been part of the Noble Lord's plan he would have been
content to wink at much of the injustice of a rate in aid.
The gross and flagrant abuses of the present arbitrary de-
cisions excited general complaint in Ireland. He knew
one large property through which an imaginary line had
been drawn by the Government officials, separating it
into two electoral divisions. Oa one side of this imagi-
nary line there were four or fire occupiers, who, being
on good terms, made a mutual arrangement to contri-
bute to a fund fur the employment of the able-bodied,
and the result was, that rates in that electoral division
some time ago were only 6d. in the pound. On the
other side of this imaginary line, however, the same
agreement did not subsist between the parties in ecru•
pation, and the consequence was that the rates there
were 2s. 6d., and he had beard they had since risen to
6s. 6d. He thought the Nole Lord would have done
well if he had examined and adopted the suggestions
thrown out by a Noble Lord (Stanley) in another
place, that Noble Lord was practically acquainted
with the subject, and had a large personal interest
in it.—(Hear. hear.) His suggestions, if adopted,
would have had the most beneficial effect.—(Hear,
hear.) With respect to emigration, although in some
places it might be necessary to set the social machine
in proper working order, yet he believed in most districts
of Irelited the population was really below the require-
ments of the country, and therefore he had no confidence
in emigration as a remedy for the present state el Ire-
land. There was no proof that all the resources of the
West had bu en exhausted; on the contrary, they had the
strongest evidence that in the Archdiocese of Tuam the
resources were not expended, for the people of twenty-
seven parishes were about giving in a simultaneous col-
lection to the assistance of the Pope
Mr. D. CALLAGHAN had listened with great
attention to the exposition of the Noble Premier's
views in proposing this rate in aid, and he must confess
that he went with him in almost all his reasons on
the subject ; but he did not go with him in think-
ing that the rate in aid was the proper means of
meeting the difficulty. Attacks had been made
in that House and through the press on the landlords of
Ireland and he did not mean to stand up in defence of
all the landlords of that country, but he felt at the same
time that some of them were charged with a great many
faults which it was impossible for them to avoid. It was
said the landlords declined to employ the labourers on
their estates, but the landlords of the south of Ireland
were almost all of them men who had given leases of
their land for three lives. In doing that they gave up
possession of the land for that time, and consequently it
was the farmers who held the land that had the employ-
ment of the labourers.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Cal
laghan) Cid not feel called upon to propose any sub-
stitution for this tax of a rate in aid, and feeling
that it was the bounden duty of Ministers to
see the people did not starve, he agreed to the
resolutions. The course of legislation adopted by this
country towards Ireland had tended to produce in
that country a very general opinion that it was over'
borne and ruined by England. He was most decidedly
opposed to the feeling which pervaded some of the
literary productions of that country. There was one
which probably many Honourable Members were well
acquainted with—
" Fruitful our soil, where honest men starve;
Empty the mart, and shipless the bay;
Out of our want the oligarchs carve—
Foreigners fatten on our decay.
Disunited,
Therefore blighted—
Ruined and rent by the Englishman's sway."
Although he believed that Ireland had much cause 10
complain of the conduct of this country towards her,
still he was most anxious to see good feeling promoted
betvseon the two countries, and a desire manifested
to bear each other's burdens, and share their good for.
tune and prosperity.—(Heir.)
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL did not altogether approve
of the wording of the amendment, but he should support
it in preference to the rate in aid proposed by the Govern-
ment. He would rather the restriction as to the nee
taxation of sums below 1501. per annum were removed,
and he should rather that the tax was to be levied on
fixed 'seem' s, and net on incomes derived from trade
and professions. With regard to the general question of
rating for the poor, he was of opinion that such rate
ought to be placed upon fixed property and real incomeei
while in regard to local rates it was impossible to have all
control over them, so as to prevent the misapplication
and jobbirg which so often took place in the administer-
ing of them, unless the parties administering them were
controlled by a sense of local and fiscal responsibility.
He thought the proposition of the Government might be
so altered as not only to apportion the rate between the
landlord and tenant, but also between the
landlord and the mortgagee. Had that been done it
would not have pressed so heavily on individual parties.
The Noble Lord, in introducing his proposition, said
that a d stinction ought to be made in regard to family
settlements in the imposing of the rate, and to excluding
dependents on property coming under that class from
the rate ; he could see no objection. If the amendment
of his Honourable and Gallant Friend (Major Blacksll)
filed, then he would be placed in a serious position-
He would then have to decide whether he would sup'
port the rate as proposed by the Government—and in
regard to that he did not hesitate to say, that in
such an event he would feel it to be his duty to hie
constituents to support the Government measures
faulty as in many cases he felt it to be.
With regard to the opposition of Honourable Gentlemen
from the north of Ireland, he thought their opposition
came with a bite grace, as they always were wont to cry
down the proposition of the late Honourable Member
fir Bath (Mr. Roebuck), who always contended that one
pact of trio country was not bound to contribute to the
support of the other. But not only did they do the;
they likewise had no objection, and, in fact, sapporteu,
measures subjecting all the other provinces in Irelatia
to be taxed the one for the support of the other. Their
opposition now, therefore, was inconsistent. As to the
area of taxation, ho considered the electoral divisions by
far too large, but then a difficulty arose how were the!
to make representation co-extensive with rating. 13
his opinion it would be inconvenient to have 013°
guardian representing two or more divisions, and he
thought in rural districts some such system as that in
operation in England should be adopted. In regard i°
the speech of the Right Honourable Baronet the Meat'
ber fur Tamworth, last evening, he considered it 5
most gratify lug se mptom that that Right Hon. Gentleman
should have thrown off his usual caution, and tendered
very judicious advice on this subject. His remarks bad'
in some instances, met with rather severe censure Iron;
some of the Irish Members; but they were not the less
useful in consequence. He thought the Right 110.
Baronet deserved the thanks of Ireland for the sugges-
tions he had thrown out, and he hoped they would 1)e
taken up in Ireland and acted upon. There could COg
be a doubt but that the mode of affording relief to Ire:
land points d out by him was far more beneficial, and
.
would be productive of better results than to give elee
ire synary relief to the people of that country. If sq.
ported by both sides of the House the Right Hor. Bt:
ronet's plan might be worked out with the, greatest so!
vantage; and did it receive that support, and were it
carried out by the Government, he hesitated not to ss;
that the Bight Gentleman might be justly cons'
dered as one of Ireland's best benefactors —(Hear.)
the
Captain JONES was one of those who supported
Irish poor•law. and he considered that were defaulting
landlords made to pay their rates now there would bet n°
necessity for the present measure. He oonsidered t.
at
the measure of Uoyerunie% was logfaeieut to Garr: "

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ENGINEERS, MASONIC, AND UNI- might say to their friends that they had a board perfectly 7, •
....... - °b•leets it had in view. He did not believe that upon to do their duty by their tenants before to the original one, the Object of which was to Increase
250 ea . VERSAL MU rum, LIFE ASSURANCE AMEI
nat- .1 ,yuo4 would be collected
ituader the measure, and he. they called. upon his constituents in Louth to the funds proposed to' be raised by a rate in aid, by charg- zealous in the cause of life assurance, and who gave
was "id not believe that any of could be collected until pay a rate in aid to support such conduct as that to ing it on all salaries derived from Government offices in SOCIE ry. personal and careful attention to their affairs.
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was
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gentlemen
nurdei
--
ttuorrijsned thanks. LIVERPOOL, 1
-ioSti after harvest. He had heard it said that were this me's- which he had alluded. He hoped an amendment would Ireland of not less tha n 1501., on property in. tho funds,
sure The ordinary general meeting of the members of this
nt- thou
9 Passed, some of the magistrates would throw up be moved in Committee in respect to the manner in and other property.
.. flourishing mutual society was held yesterday, at the
cuts e'r commissions. He believed that if they attempted which the rate in aid was to be raised, and he would give Lord JOHN ItURIELL suggested that the original offices, 345, Strand, at two o'clock; W. F. Dobson, Esq., this port this aft(
' 'M.A., occupied the chair.
Mr. FREDERICK LAWRANCE, the actuary and secretary, On the motion of Mr. MACEY, a vote of thanks was with the usual ma
observeh secretoroid reresy(t
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holderstooof
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lips to collect the sixpenny rate they would endanger the his support to a proposition by which hall of it would be resolution should first be adopted, and that the Hon.
who
read the following report of the directors :-
patitict
now le system of the poor-laws. Why did they not paid by the tenant and half by the landlord. He thought Mem. ber'e resolution be then moved as a substantive
take
heir ; / those defaulting districts in the south and west of that if this course were adopted, or if the principle motion.
"The
life assurance congratulate
enunciated the m
ienmtbbeerisr,
lON. each), was infinitely ugh threela,nd support their own poor? In the south of Ireland of giving the tenant credit for the payment of the rate in Mr. SPOONER called upon the Hon: Member for
the , 'and was better and more productive than in the. aid, in his rent, were allowed, a great amount of relief Dublin to show his sincerity in this question by putting that the
eort prospectus, combined with the zealous exertions of the
assured, have secured to the society a large amount of 14th of January, a
the south east sidel
up, pooh, and why could the south, then, not support its would be afforded to the occupier. The Hon. Member his resolution as words to be added to the original one.
abna6elkuetpswainrsdtse.adHoefproenfeer.-red(Ltoauhgabyteerh.)is
~,„ ras well as the north ? The lands of Ireland were for Longford proposed an amendment, to the effect that Mr. REYNOLDS said that, as he was aware it was smaller number of persons holding policies for 1,000/.
eesre thanafterwards abande
it to b sufficient to support the poor of Ireland, and an income-tax be placed upon Ireland. Ifithe Hon. Gen- competent for him to move his resolution as a resolu- public support.
restedi, inc HpAronimmoltTheeggs riskin tI a wasan'
saving most of t
.gle) 2:Proper management they would do so. There was, tleman meant by this to import the principle of this tion to be added to the original one, he should persist "In the interval from the 7th of June, 1848, (the date
of the society's certificate of complete registration), to less, and they had a greater number of persons inte-
iNng
stated a knowledge o
o behalfof theo of himself
institution.
crew arrived at CI
therefore, no need for the imposition of such an im- English income-tax upon Ireland, then he must object to in his intention of moving the resolution in that shape.
113 st ae that pro osed, which would be making the in- it. He could not consent to professions or mercantile After a few words from Mr. A. STAFFORD, who
policies,
theoll,
ribeoosi a:
securingr d -wetr we en
the
hy e- esi
the close of the year, two hundred and fifty-three pro-
of the passengers h
the astrious and capreful PaY for the support of the indolent pursuits being taxed in Ireland. No interest had sus- said he should take no part in the question, petals for assurance to the amount of 81,330/. were sub-
directors that Mr. Lawrence's conduct during his con- -part of the passe
the
the and careless. fered more severely than the mercantile interest in Ire- The Committee again divided, when there appeared-
d a gboM.: P. FRENCH said that he agreed with the last lend.-(0h, oh.) He would prove this by a public do- For the motion
andamountrnit t 'eight
g hototfboard-twenty-eight
declined-andhmt
oo
ff
64 which,,twos 801hundredforhave ne
satisfaction, and so long as he acted with the same zeal passengers for Nev
flexion with the society had given them the warmest took passage on the
tt;al'er, and with the Hon. Member for Dublin (Mr. comsat. It appeared that in 184 6 the circulation of Against it ne ••• ... ... 212
e. Ynolds), that this rate in aid is in prin- Ireland was 7,424,0001. In the second half of that year Majority ... • . ... -161 been completed, the annual premiums derivable from and fidelity which he had shown heretofore, so long The Niagara '
bri
Ple,
toinsufficient in amount, must ultimately would he continue to merit the entire confidence of the
ruinous notonly Ireland, but also 1847 it fell again to 5,300,0001; and in the second when there appeared- fortunate steamer
to this
s consequences, - directors.
it country. He considered that Connaught, bad as half-year of 1848 to 4,000,000/. and odd. Thus showing For the resolution ... ... ... 206 nest of the office during the last two months has, pro- Mr. LAWRANCE said he could not but feel highly •
The mail steams
gra•Halifax
on the 21
_ls at present conditioned, would be able not only to a decrease in the circulating medium during these three Against it ...
•..• ... ... 34 portionately, far exceeded that of the previous halt- tified at the way in which this vote had been proposed,
itt Majority ... ... ... -172
'isti- thPPort its poor, but to have surplus funds to develop years of 40 per cent. This decrease was still un- year, inasmuch as 144 additional proposals for the more especially for the unexpected and flattering addition which she would
tho I erich resources of that province, if dealt with in the checked, and this state of things was pretty good proof The House resumed, the Chairmanbring reported the re-
Billamount of 33,140/. have been received, and 108 already of the Chairman. He could not say that in tho future from Liverpool.
in a founded
nder ' b same manner as the agricultural interest of this country that the mercantile interests of Ireland were not in a solution, and leave was given tocompleted, making he should use greater energy or exertions than during The proceedings
ad
the ot, been dealt with, and as Holland, Prussia, and condition to bear any additional impost upon them. In upon it. The number of policies existing with the past, since he had exerted himself to the utmost- portant. Nothing
asod ar-'ae,r kingdoms of the continent, have dealt with their Galway, of a rate of six shillings in the pound for the The Potty Sessions Bill, and the distraining for Rates the society . , , ,
••• ... 316 that was impossible. Perhaps, from a little over-exertion Panama Railway
m of te-dlees, by railways and canals; but he regretted year ending
1847, only sixpence in the pound is uncol- Bill were then reads third time. For an amount of ••• • • ... £93,380 the few roses which once used to decorate his cheeks had pinvvall. The slay
itselfasythat"" re" • dof applying lected. Tho Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tam- The Committee on the Spirits (Ireland) Bill was post-
. all Governments, instead And the annual income from premiums fl d but long he blessed • h
£3,013 3s. 6d. e ,so as waswith health his best feature. The Bill
;hose *ite
dial remedies to Ireland, always contented themselves at
worth, when he alluded to the colonization of Ulster, poned till Thursday, and the House then adjourned a " Notwithstanding the large number of individuals energies would be devoted to
loathe service of the institu- t. lves, providingfox
' the -Pr d • political;stimulants. He was fully
ita, 0 tieing
to labour gn their service, and die
y roe tee
tired that there never was a time that any Govern- at the same time in that province. The best mode, in policy-holders. with harness on his back.-(Hear, hear.) meat in the Cen
PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS. assent of a majo
F the ' pliiat had fewer difficulties than the present, because all Ireland, would be, instead of forgiving arrears, to make e The directors have only to request • d On the motion of Mr. GRIFFIN, LI vote of thanks
the continue
i, by tle„;'"cal agitation had ceased, and became it was the them payable out of the fee simple value of the estate. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the HOUS(I Of COMMOMS.) co-operation of the members in diffusing the knowledge was accorded to the Chairman. Secretary of the Ti
plan ' -'re ofall parties in Ireland to contribute their aid,
leette
nuns. k 'lce, and energy to the amelioration of all clauses. never work.-(Hear, hear.) They should have a maxi- STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEE. satisfactory solution for their nexeannual report:- with the remarks of Mr. Macey. Since, in tain parties, propos
E the gas t Id b ud •f mum of rates. 110 also felt that the Irish should make The following Reeolution was reported from the above
cure _ o the 250,000/. that would e proc re , i pro- . "If an association of twenty acting-b' ' • 1f 11policies -
is opinion a large number o small were in- the Isthmus of Teh
persons, zealously
Committee :-
pro- that
from the sixpenny rate in aid, every one knew each other. He did
a etruggle to assist themselves and
That in the case of the London Corporation petition for he ureot rinci les • P t p p p of life assurance, and pro- finitely better than a small number of large ones. For Prominently.
is of jab it would not only not tend to the employment of the not underrate the value of the gifts which thin country
extending the time for presenting the Bill, the standing mulgating widely its inestimable benefits, have obtained, instance, five policies of 1001. were infinitely better than On the 19th, in I
our. which they had their
had bestowed upon Ireland, for
owed ta,a mg classes, but would not support them for more . orders ought to be dispensed with:-That the time for pre- in less than seven months, so large an accession to their one of 5001,: the risk was more dispersed, and they had place relative to sl
o the to the a few weeks. The Hein. Gentleman then referred best gratitude. No one could advocate the repeal of the seating the Bill be extended to Tuesday next, the lath inst. numbers, what amount of business can bo produced by five persons instead of one diffusing a knowledge of the of interference be
• for `'e d f 'h• h h
a... woollen and linen tra c o Ireland, which, ic , e . said, _
union until they learned to bear their own burdens and -Resolution agreed to. the combined exertions of more than three hundred society.-(Cheers.) He hoped next year they would the same d • ay, in t
made ro" taken from that country by the envy of the English to have a feeling of seltreliance. . members?" meet in the same health, and in greater number.
i his , ilnyacturer through the instrumentality of a British Sir ARTHUR BROOKE disclaimed having imputed PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. The report of the auditors, Messrs. Cates Cullington, The meeting then separated. memorial of rectal
Lao°, Petit fll ' d
sic eat. Ho was u y convince that neither arts- blame to all the landlords of Ireland, he only referred to -............... Surrage, and Tatham, which was also read, testified to In the evening the directors and several of the mem- mails and military
could draina e nor any other measure of improvement those who reduced the country to the state the people (From the Votes and Proceedings of tie House of Common...a the careful examination by thorn of the accounts of the hors celebrated the success of the institution by a dinner the Isthmus of Pa
olivi- eatild g
z be carried on advantageously in Ireland while the were in the western district. . TUESDAY, MARCH 6. directors, and that they were strictly correct. at the Freemasons' Tavern. 12,000 dolls. per at
who °11,4,11 of Works were themselves the ern I •ers,
poa ers, the The Earl of LINCOLN said, that in addressing the POOR-LAWS (IRELAND). The CHAIRMAN then moved the adoption of the re- to the committee I
Ire
luties '4rnen d h . • d dtht th
aeu„ pa) asters, an argue a era House he would confine himself to the question whether (IN THE COMMITTEE.) port. In doing so he assured the members that the I'o THE SECRETARY OF THE also, in the Senate.
who kis 'st be no requisition for a rate in aid, or any otherthey should
I not treasure, if an income•tax were properly and efficiently was difficult to decide that question, when they had not the next two years there shall be
sixpencethe debate
into that country;butthe present is the pound on highly gratifying o the directors to find
l - was sore, but dull, on the rate of sixpence in the pound nays being ordered
pro- to" ered in, would bring ruin, and if changed would bewhich had been alluded to and which referred
ttnoeasures . . each electoral division in such Union, towards a Genera
' e • Fund for the relief of the Poor in Ireland: Amendment
tlemen had reported most favourably upon them. The in Ireland for the Poor. The beginning, middle, and General Taylor,
take , le.yed by many and important benefits. the social condition of Ireland .Now, when it was
" proposed, to leave out from the words " next two ears,' members would be good enough to bear in mind that end, of Irish politics is, not to pay; and hints more or less expected at Washii
ploy- a, NZ. Nr• CO OLLY would consider that ho was not per- considered that extraneous aid was necessary to relieve
to the end of the Question, in order to add the words
an
a though the receipts only extended over and represented remote on the importance of their " loyalty," form the office of Secretary
tates, e ; off minx his duty to his constituents if he did not rise to distress, it would not be disputed that it should auxiliary fund for the relief of the extraordinary distress in the business transacted by the society during the last six , stock of their argument. It is true the Ministerial plan to the Hon. John
rdens •e, w er his most strenuous opposition to the motion of the come from Ireland, and then it was to be Ireland be raised, by a rate not exceeding sixpence in the months, yet that the disbursements extended over a includes the abstract and positive injustice, of levying a
aence . ' eiohl
-4 Lord d j It ell -(Hear, hear,)
• `eweLord J. Russell).-(lleac, ).He considered from what part of Ireland it was to be ob- pound, to be levied upon all property and income in Ireland much larger our
space of time, namely, whilst the promoters temporary rate on temporary incomes. But this seems The state,
very- tb,., ‘-, ask the House to consider the present state ofraised from the above the annual value of 150/ " instead thereof:-Question ;
tamed. He thought it ought to be . _ - e
National J
a the has
21 unions out of 131 which are in a state of hope- entire of Ireland. He did not think equivalent taxtt- put,"That the
, words proposed. to. be left out stand part of would be satisfactory to the members to learn that the significant on this point. Sir Robert Peel, like Mrs. Chick, ble of the journa
from . is ha kandwouldalso ask, teen a sound principle, even if it could be proved to the Question ' The Committee divided:-
Ith n ruptcy,
more 'ale other than that introduced by Government no- be real, but he could show that it was not real. It was MAJORITY-AYES, 237.
eel, eligible premises in which they were assembled, to buy the Connemara estate for an experimental farm net." Mr. Claytoi
ens, . irY?aicularly as there were 10 others in a state declared by members of the Government that this mea- Abdy, T. IT. Grey, Sir G. Peel, Frederick and, indeed, all the preliminary expenses from 'by the Government, has the air of a dream after fall- broad sense of the
tir I as it was
sure was only defensible, inasmuch temporary, Adair, It. Shafto Grosvenor RW. Perfect, R.
upon a 1). delosable those 21 to which he had Adverted.
ef_ p as eAnson, Colonel , Earl Philips, Sir G. R. its establishment, were comprised in the accounts ing asleep over the history of the British Solomon's ter; in another he
Jlster fortuand that of one hundred remaining unions there were but ho thought it was likely to be an increasing evil.
Anton, Viscount Guest, Sir J. Pigott, Francis that day submitted to them. It gave the directors the " plantations." fanaticism." He i
- they . te Y burdened with a heavy amount of debt. It was, H PPY
es would be ba if he could entertain so sanguine Arm tron Sir .
...• 3'•
Hallyburton, Lord J. Pllkington, estates most unfeigned pleaeure to inform them that the past On Tuesday Lord John Russell announced the deci- The following it
"eref hope as the Noble Lord (Lord John Russell) enter- Armstrong, R. B. Harcourt, G. Pinney, Williamcould not fail '
IMO- 111 °re, monstrous these should be called upon to pay aprogress indicated that success
e debt tamed upon this subject. He deprecated the idea that Arundel, Earl et Harris, Richard Plowden, W. H.
own It a 1 of others before they had liquidated their own. Ashley, Lord Hastie, Alexander Power, Nicholas the labours of the institution in the future-(Hear)-yet, no opportunity for inserting a word on these occasions; ult. ;it is brief are
if the . al as absurd to say that the rate was to be levied uponbobtained b the cultivation fth
relief was to e y n o o po- Bagshaw, John Hattie, Archibald Powlett, Lord W. as the success of some men often engendered envy and otherwise it might have been stuff o' the conscience to "He had been
ehich ail the unions in Ireland, when only fifty or tato in connexion with the con•acre system, which he Baines, 31. T. Hawes, B. Price, Sir Robertcould not be
. teeen in his neighbours, they surprised to ask, whether there had been taken into account the pro- theatre-from a lon
Baring, Sir F. T. Hay, Lord J. Pryse, Prysoaltogether
as, in the
tY • free debt andable
unions were of
• o Bass, M.T.. Hayter, W. G. Reid, Colonel learn that this society had not been free from bability that on the first &deices, the allies and neutrals the greatest public
forces rate
• feet, • When they ought to know those and with reard to emigration as a means of relies
•. , Bellew, R. M. Heneago, G.-11. W. Reynolds, John remarks, possibly offered in a good-natured spirit, upon will go over en masse if there are any. charge of those bi
I that tio t it was not fair in Government to comethat also was objectionable,by inducing
the awe- Berkeley, Captain Henry, Alexander Ricardo, Osman its plan and position. It had been said that though a It has often been a question, whether talking In the ing his abilities
w bodied labourers to come to this country and Berkeley, H. Ileyworth, Lawrence Rice, E. R. _ own
been LI to the blouse and propose that all the unions should quantity of business had been transacted, and would House of Commons convinces anybody. It eases men's as
a aid. , t3' the rate in aid. In point of fact, the rate would leave the women and children to be maintained on ley Hindle Charles
Berke
~ y Rich, Henry
Birch, Sir Thomas Hobhouso, Sir J. Robartes T. J.their great rya
doubtless continue to be transacted, though they had minds. It must have been on this ground that the speak- should •
ry de- , wre to be made upby an increased taxation upon those the oor-rates at home. It was a sound maxim that Blandford, Marquis Hobhouse, T. B. Roche, E. B.that the quality ing look for asse
effected a large number of policies, yet
this` o we_ „ the property of Ireland should support Bo -le Colonel
knew ! •
of the business was not of such a to ensure strength of parties had been tried by a division of 251 indebted. The offs
se had ts en the one hand, either England, with her vast of ;
Ireland but what was the property of Ire- Brackley, Viscount Hogg, Sir J.
- - - Bright, John Holland, Robert
R mbold, C. E.
Russell, Lord J. foot
security. He thought that the note at- against 104 on a motion for adjournment. The whole nor had it
30ur land? It consisted of realty andHequite been se
ing it • 4ei, ces, must come forward, or, on the other hand, personalty, Brockman, E. D. Hope, sir J. Russell, F. C. tacked to the report was the best answer he was finally wound up by a division of 206
magi- lave "lad must be made to meet the difficulty. If they agreed with the Hon. Gentleman who last spoke, that the Brotherton, Joseph Hope, H. T. Itutherfurd, A. could offer to the observations to which he referred. the main question. against 34 on electing him to th
ct ~ Hovrard, Lord IL Salwey, Colonel the people had mail
The 208 policies issued during the half-year were dis-
being sorbee the latter alternative, how were they to levy commercial classes in Ireland had suffered, but certainly, Brown, H.
Brown, W. Howard, C. IV.I Sandars, George I am, Sir, your obedient servant, ment and a just adi
ontri• or a rate from the whole of Ireland, when only fifty as regarded the burden of paying taxes for the poor,
Browne, R. D. Howard, E. G. Saadars, Joseph parsed among and had the advantage of all the chances AN OLD REFORMER. dearourin
odied, 11, asi,„ltY unions could pay ?--(Hear, hear.) It was, they were taxed most moderately, while the landed was Bruce, LordlE. Howard, P. li. Scholetleld, Williara incidental to the lives of 203 individuals.-(Cheers.) The London, March 7, 1849. gto carry
vision . ' /r4el°re, a delusion to talk of levying off the whole of taxed most heavily. Then, as to the question of a tom- Bulkeley, Sir llt. B. Hume, J. , Sertham, Viscount remaining policiy-holders ;had exhibited the estimation though no one cod
Jackson, IN Illiam Seyraer, H. K. . 521111Rilmilenelememessiemorrape was left for those w
)11 the teatttld. The levy, in fact, was to be made off Ulster Parison between an income-tax and a poor-rate, it ought Butter,Bunbury, L. I .
P. S. Jervis, Sir John Seymour, Lord in which they held the society by taking np additional
BOARD OF TRADE RET URNS example as far 1
same other Leinster, and a small portion of Connaught. An- to be recollected that the one was paid out of money Buxton, Sir E. Keating, Robert Shinto, R. D._ polices. They had 23 policies for 1,000/., amounting to 1 ••••
ecru • asa? delusion which was contained in the Noble Lord's actually received, while the other was liable to have all c ardwell, Edward Keppel, George T. Shell, R. L. . 23,000/.; 28 for 500/., amounting to 14,0001.; 23 for With respect to exports, the return is strikingly this citieens of Memphif
there ,
,e Position was that of making the rate last only for two debts and burdens on it included. One great reason, .
Carter John B. Kershaw, James Sheridan, st.u. 3001., amounting to 6,1001.; and 73 for 100 L, amounting favourable,
• and such as to confirm the highest expects- occasion, for
ata. Cavendish, C. C. Kildare„ Marquis of Shirley, E. J. aid."
lions expressed at the commencement of the present reg
gen to lia , and he made it, he said, on the ground that he however, in his view, why nom® parts of Ireland, now
Cavendish, G.H.: Labouchere, Henry Smith, Vernon to 7,3001., which presented a pretty fair test of Accounts from''
done let:red the destitution would last for that period. Prosperous, should contribute to the distress of the other Chaplin, W. J. Langston, J. H., Smith, M. Tucker the character and amount of the business transacted. year- As compared with the month ending the sth of
the 28th ult., state
salient orfa ne (Mr. Conolly) did' not believe, unless extra- Parts, was their propinquity, and the result which should Charter.s, Francis Lascelles, W. S. Smith, John B. Again it was said that they caught at all policies that January, 1848, they present an increase of not less than
aother e4"ttrY measures were adopted, that the destitution in the end follow, if distress continued, because (CSllasyy,,Jsairmlers Lemon, Sir Charles Somerville, Sir W.
Lewis, Sir T. Spearman, ll.y. were offered-in fact, that fish that to th •
all wascame their 589,301/. The increase in cotton, woollen, and linen between the rival
aimed ts., e extreme misery-would last only for a period of the prosperous portions must share the common ruin. Clerk, Sir;G. Lewis, 0. C. Stansfleld, W. B.C. net.-(Laughter.) Now this was not true, inasmuch as manufactures is very striking, and the continued much more decisiv
'wrest tor,,,,Yelrs• Unless Government was prepared to come The result of the imposition of the rate in aid would, Cobden, Richard Littleton, E. R. ktantoa, W. s. they declined all lives which they could not accept with fallen off in the exportation of machinery still shows the Aionagas party had
opted, - , ael 'ter" with some comprehensive measure to meet the no doubt, tend to unsettle the minds of many farmers Cockburn, Alex. Loch, James Statmton, Sir G. check which has been given to foreign production. The war was now coati
fairness to the members; they threw such lives over- -
Hear, 1/0' ne did not see how it was to be got rid of. The in Ireland, and he feared, therefore, the effect Copeland, Alderman Locke, Joseph Stuart, Lord D.
re as would be to decrease the application of capital to Cowper, W. F. Lushington, C. Stuart, Lord J. board. Thanks to the excellent skill and discrimination following table will show specifically the manner in capture of the Ile(
some leen•Baronet
then alluded to the speech of. the Right vv .
.. . crate, W. G. Mackinnon, W."A. Talbot, C. R. of the medical officers, whose ability and care he could which this has occurred:- of prisoners were
achine hat'. learonet the member for Tamworth (Sir R. Peel) the sod, and to promote that emigration going on within Crowder, R. D. M'Cullagh, W. T. Tancred, 11. W. not too highly commend-(Cheers)-the directors had DECLARED TALUK OF EXPORTATIONS. General Paez's st
[stricts tsteaght h h• h h d filled him with much
,-a speec wic a the last year, namely, the emigration of persons who Currie, Ratites M'Gregor, John
Dashwood, G. ll.Tennent, R. J.
Mahon,- O'Gormaa Thicknesse, Ralph declined twenty•eight policies for 11,0001., being in
quire- , A 1; and he asked whether it was likely that any man had labour, and even capital, to improve tho land, hadMonth ending Jan.s. tranquil . business
Davie, Sir Henry Maitland, Thomas Thompson, Colonel fact eleven per cent. of the number of pro-
°Wewas likely in a 81
Increase. Decrease.
idenoe . tter Part with estates which were endeared to him by they remained at home.-(Hear, hear.) At the sitting Dawson, T. T. Mangles, it. D. Thompson, George posals effected, or thirteen per cent. of the 1845. 1849. tivity.
of Ire- , thaj tie of humanity?-(Hear.) He would tell them of the House on the previous day he had himself pre- D'Eyncourt, C. T. Marshall, W. Thornely, T. entire number offered for their acceptance.-(Cheers.)
of the Ri,.before the possessors of estates in Ireland wouldagainst the rate in aid, from the union
sented a petition
Douro, Marquis of Masterman, Tollemache, E. J
John Towneley, John Care and caution of this nature must influence to a vast £ z• A. 4. From Mexico w
ad the fve thena -
up there would be a dire struggle, and every of Carrickinecross, in which the astounding fact was set Drummond, Henry MathesonAlex. Townley, R. G. extent the prosperity of any office based on a similar Butter . .. 14,549 25,592 11,043 - ary, being three d
Candles • 3,469 6,040 2,57 t
-
um the fe'ro of
NC law would be resorted to in the maintenance of forth, that while the inhabitants of the union were Duckw,orth, Sir J. Matheson,
e, Colonel Tovrnshend. Captain foundation to theirs. It had been also said, that during Cheese .. .. • 1,809 1,943 143 - by Don Estevan
wont).- to
the right,, •
i • he number of acres in it only amounted to Duff; tr. s•
-(Cries of e Hear, hear.") With reference 39,000 t d i
however,
f,
1.. .
Duncan, Viscount Milner, W. M.
gaud, ruse
Trelawny, J S.
Tyrite, Colonel the first year a mutual society like this, exhausted all Coals and Culm .. 61,732 66,439 4,707 - the district of 111
as col- rat ? main question before the House, he objected to the 37,000. Indepen ent y, ot .e present evils of Duncan, George Milnes, It. Monckton Vane, Lord 11. its connexion and influence, the directors having by that Cotton manufactures 1,292,932 1,720,289 427,357 - quelled.
:11it r ,1" aid, as being unfair and unjust, slid especially as the poor-law in Ireland, there was that of the valuation, Dundas, Admiral Mitckell, T. A. Verney, Sir H. time brought in all their personal friends; and that, Ear
Cotton yarn •• •• 410 037 484 156 74 119 -
thenwaro • . ' ' '.. 60,471 62,697 2,126 - From Valparaia
great De to the county which here presented (Donegal). which was most, unequal, and which the Committee up Dundas, Sirr David Moore, G. H. Villiers, Charles therefore, during the second year its progress must, Fish, herrings .. 8,1141 13,648 • 4,507 -
Morison, Sir W. Walmsley, Sir J. comber, rid Panay
nnier's • b would make a comparison between the county of stairs recommended should be uniform. With regard to EDbiTiiiileg,os',.., P. 17,779 19,754 975 -
t i Viscount 31orris, David Walter, John as a matter of course, be slow. Now, on a Glms " " "
i Ori,November, 113 1
Ilardwares and cut-
confess I,tx gal, which did not ask for a rate in aid, with the this subject, he should quote for the House the evidence e f Ellice, Edward Movratt, Francis Ward, 11. G. comparison of the amount of business transacted last lery .. .• • • 203,590 189,447 - 14,443 fornia. Bolivia v
was on. 'ditrPtion of one union, and the county of Clare, which Mr. Griffith, examined before a Committee on the poor- Ellis, John Mulgrave, Earl Watkins, Colonel year with what had been done in the present, he found Leather, wrought and
think- 9t and he•foune that in Clare the population was only laws. In that evidence it was stated to be most imperfect, EErliltilo,ti,dJ.LoE.d Norreys, Lord Wawn, J. T.revolutions and co
Norreys, Sir D. Wellesley, Lord C. that during each month of the present year un Nrought - - 14.114 24,578 10,464 -
aus of " 35• Donegal •
alth, 4, while in it was 296,448 so,O'Connell, John Westhead ,J. P. the number of policies issued, and their amount, far ex- me,:
y).-arrfactures 2118,j11; 327,599
49 59,284 - the day. That us
made loclis'igh the latter had a populate qt above Clare of was to be levied, notwithstanding that that gentleman Evans, William Ogle, S. C. Willcox, Brodie seeded the number issued Burin; any month in the past machinery .. :: 15,417 - volution.
76,498 29,805 46,2)0
Ord, William Williams, John
girds of '4),'L'4, it was, nevertheless unjustly called upon to said to levy a general rate on it would be most unjust. ricisg•anr;ti: INs;siiiiiiiaam. year.-(Hear, hear.) He had observed in the reports Metals. - Iron and From llavannal
Oswald, A. Willk artni, In
once of la r's,7 eeod the ,106ciency of neglect or mismanagement Now as to what was called the poor-law valuation, there Fergus, John Owen, Sir John Williaaison, Sir rt. recently issued by other offices that any falling off of steel .. • • 322,651 281,033 - 41.618 the steam ship Ise
Copper and brass 134,330 124,561 -
e aatile ' ' th,',lltre. With reference to what had been said about were twenty-five counties in Ireland which were not so Ferguson, Colonel Paget, Lord A. Wilson, James business was attributed to the late commercial depres- Lend • • • • 6,331 9,492 3,161 -
5,769 set in in Cuba, aft,
t many -1e • 1 h f Ireland,b f his part, did valued ; and indeed it was not so applicable, by reason
he, 3a ty of the north o c, or s Fordyce, A. D. Paget, Lord Clarence Wilson, Matthew sion. Now he did not agree in that view, as he con- Tin, unwrought • • 15,010 7,030 - 7,980 The United St
It wasForster, M.
'th 1,--loyalty ofthe northof Ireland would of its indivisibility. Would the House believe that, so
thee in- that the
Palmerston, Viscount Wood, IV. P. sidered that prudent and diligent men, of whom assurers Tin-plates .. 23,052 87,145 14,093 - Havannah on the
ter on and the of the oss injustice involved in the great was the inequality of valuation now existing, that
1,4‘. test - 10,768 26,062 15,291 -
Silk manufactures • • 72,784 64,606 8,178 left on the 26th of
-
Ireland th "I"t; of the present measure, and he would rot think in Belfast the valuation exieting WAS 20s. Bd. above the Glyn, G. C. Pearson, Charles Wyvill, Marmadtike to the future condition of their families when they soap •• •• .. 11,408 15,683 4,075 - in her, bearer of
e d valuation ; while in Castle Blavney it was Goddard, A. L. Pechell, Captain TELLIES.
uses of 14 ,worse of their loyalty on that account. The Hon. townlan
- - Graham, Sir J. Peel, Sir Robert 11111, Lord M., found that their business did not realise so Sugar, refined .. 36,829 30,317 - 6,512 Government, full'
era Wool, sheep and
pari? up p, ber concluded by reiterating his hostility to the 3s. 81 below it? showing how unjust. and how impolitic Grenfell, Charles W. Peel, Colonel Tuthell, IL much as in former years; they naturally adopted
lambs' .• - 25,873 25,354 - 519 regard to the abu
3ntly it 'l,l3osed rate in aid. it would be to levy any general rate on such a basis. the very salutary means of effecting that purpose offered Woollen yarn .. 60,206 64,140 3,934 .- . which, it is said,
mploy- ILt Qed CASTLEREAGH complimented the lion. Standing there, however, as a Member of that House, MINORITY-NOES, 164. by life assurance. He, therefore, on the contrary, attri- Woollen mansfactures 471,535 542,575 71.040 -
- Pal .tNber wi,„ 1....-) :.-. ~1,1,.....erl the House ell the not connected with Ireland or the Government, he shouldhim.
bated much of the success of the office to the recent -
. Adair, Hugh E. Tor tescue, Chichester Morgan, ILK. 3,660,444 4,245,745 724,410 135,309 From Chagres t

upon to do their duty by their tenants before
they called upon his constituents in Louth to
pay a rate in aid to support such conduct as that to
which he had alluded. He hoped an amendment would
be moved in Committee in respect to the manner in
which the rate in aid was to be raised, and he would give
his support to a proposition by which hall of it would be
paid by the tenant and half by the landlord. He thought
that if this course were adopted, or if the principle
of giving the tenant credit for the payment of the rate in
aid, in his rent, were allowed, a great amount of relief
would be afforded to the occupier. The Hon. Member
for Longford proposed an amendment, to the effect that
an income-tax be placed upon Ireland. If the Hon. Gen-
tleman meant by this to import the principle of this
English income-tax upon Ireland, then he must object to
it. He could not consent to professions or mercantile
pursuits being taxed in Ireland. No interest had suf-
fered more severely than the mercantile interest in Ire-
land.—(oh, oh.) He would prove this by a public do-
cument. It appeared that in 1846 the circulation of
Ireland was 7,424,0001. In the second half of that year
it fell to 6,800,000/. In the second halt of the year
1847 it fell again to 5,300,0001; and in the second
half-year of 1848 to 4,000,000/. and odd. Thus showing
a decrease in the circulating medium during these three
years of 40 per cent. This decrease was still un-
checked, and this state of things was pretty good proof
that the mercantile interests of Ireland were not in a
condition to bear any additional impost upon them. In
Galway, of a rate of six shillings in the pound for the
year ending 1847, only sixpence in the pound is uncol-
lected. The Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tam-
worth, when he alluded to the colonization of Ulster,
did not refer to the middle class, which was established
at the same time in that province. The best mode, in
Ireland, would be, instead of forgiving arrears, to make
them payable out of the fee simple value of the estate.
With regard to the Unincumbered Estates Bill, it would
never work.—(Hear, hear.) They should have a maxi-
mum of rates. He also felt that the Irish should make
a struggle to asist themselves and each other. He did
not underrate the value of the gifts which this country
had bestowed upon Ireland, for which they had their
best gratitude. No one could advocate the repeal of the
union until they learned to bear their own burdens and
to have a feeling of self-reliance.
Sir ARTHUR BROOKE disclaimed having imputed
blame to all the landlords of Ireland, he only referred to
those who reduced the country to the state the people
were in the western district.
The Earl of LINCOLN said, that in addressing the
House he would confine himself to the question whether
they should have a rate in aid or not. lie thought it
was difficult to decide that question, when they had not
at the same time under their consideration the other
measures which had been alluded to, and which referred
to the social condition of Ireland. Now, when it was
considered that extraneous ail was necessary to relieve
distress, it would not be disputed that it should
come from Ireland, and then it was to be
considered from what part of Ireland it was to be ob-
tained. He thought it ought to be raised from the
entire of Ireland. He did not think equivalent taxa-
tion a sound principle, even if it could be proved to
be real, but he could show that it was not real. It was
declared by members of the Government that this mea-
sure was only defensible, inaimuch as it was temporary,
but ho thought it was likely to be an increasing evil.
He would be happy if he could entertain so sanguine
a hope as the Noble Lord (Lord John Russell) enter-
tained upon this subject. He deprecated the idea that
relief was to be obtained by the cultivation of the po-
tato in connexion with the con-acre system, which he
thought would be almost as great an evil as the famine,
and with regard to emigration as a means of relief,
that also was objectionable, by inducing the able-
bodied labourers to come to this country and
leave the women and children to be maintained on
the poor-rates at home. It was a sound maxim that
the property of Ireland should support the poverty
of Ireland ; but what was the property of Ire-
land? It consisted of realty and personalty. He quite
agreed with the Hon. Gentleman who last spoke, that the
commercial classes in Ireland had suffered, but certainly,
as regarded the burden of paying taxes for the poor,
they were taxed most moderately, while the landed was
taxed most heavily. Then, as to the question of a com-
parison between an income-tax and a poor-rate, it ought
to be recollected that the one was paid out of money
actually received, while the other was liable to have all
debts and burdens on it included. One great reason,
however, in his view, why some parts of Ireland, now
prosperous, should contribute to the distress of the other
parts, was their propinquity, and the result which should
in the end follow, if distress continued, because
the prosperous portions must share the common ruin.
The result of the imposition of the rate in aid would,
no doubt, tend to unsettle the minds of many farmers
in Ireland, and ho feared, therefore, the effect
would be to decrease the application of capital to
the soil, and to promote that emigration going on within
the last year, namely, the emigration of persons who
had labour, and even capital, to improve the land, had
they remained at home.—(Hear, hear.) At the sitting
of the House on the previous day he had himself pre-
sented a petition against the rate in aid, from the union
of Carrickinecross, in which the astounding fact was set
forth, that while the inhabitants of the union were
39,000, the number of acres in it only amounted to
37,000. Independently, however, of the present evils of
the poor-law in Ireland, there was that of the valuation,
which was most unequal, and which the Committee up
stairs recommended should be uniform. With regard to
this subject, ho should quote for the House the evidence of
Mr. Griffith, examined before a Committee on the poor-
laws. In that evidence it was stated to be most imperfect,
and yet that was the valuation on which the rate in aid
was to be levied, notwithstanding that that gentleman
said to levy a general rate on it would be most unjust.
Now as to what was called the poor-law valuation, there
were twenty-five counties in Ireland which were not so
valued ; and indeed it was not so applicable, by reason
of its indivisibility. Would the House believe that, so
great was the inequality of valuation now existing, that
in Belfast the valuation existing was 20s. Bd. above the
townland valuation ; while in Castle Blayney it was
3s. Bd. below it? showing how unjust and how impolitic
it would be to levy any general rate on such a basis.
Standing there, however, as a Member of that House,
not connected with Ireland or the Government, he should
on the previous evening have supported the present mea-
sure, had a division taken place; but he confessed that,
after what he heard, he thought an income-tax
would be the most proper means to meet
the evil, and far preferable to any such pro-
position as that now put forward.—(Hear.) He knew
it was said as nn objection to the introduction of the in-
come-tax, that no machinery was in existence to collect
such a tax, but on looking at the enormous machinery
got up. and got up suddenly, too, for relief works in
1846 and 1847, ho saw no difficulty whatever in using a
similar exertion, at least as regarded the working of the
Bill, as bad been done on that occasion. They would
not obtain a rate in aid until the end of the year, whereas
the income tax, being prospective, it would commence
from April next. For his own part, he believed equal
taxation was the great remedy for the evils of Ireland;
and although the proposal of the Ho u. Member for
Longford to levy an income-tax did not go far enough to
carry out that view, still he should support it in prefer-
ence to the proposiion of the Government.
Colonel DUNNE had heard the speech of the Right
Hon. Baronet the Member for Tamworth with pleasure,
and that pleasure was enhanced by the feeling of kind-
ness exhibited towards his (Colonel Dunne s) country, a
circumstance very unlike the conduct too often pursued
by his friends in the Government on that side of the
House. He contended that the taxation of the two coun-
tries at present was as one to eight—taking the property
of England at 270 millions, and Ireland at 40; and it that
was so, he saw no reason why they should be encum-
bered with an additional burthen in the shape of an in-
come •tax.—(Hear.) There was but one thing for Ire-
land, and that was a sweeping change in the present
poor-law. Till that change took place, no grant, how-
ever large, would be of essential benefit to that country.
He thought this vote would be injurious to Ireland.
Mr. MUNTZ—This vote was nothing but a repetition
of the last, under a new name. There was no hope of
this rate being collected. It must all ultimately come
out of the Imperial exchequer. They must look to the
interests of England. Why did not the Noble Lord
come forward with some comprehensive measure? Ca-
pital, they said, was what was wanted in Ireland; but
was it probable that men would risk their capital when
there was nu remuneration by the produce? Could the
present price of produCe remunerate capital?—(l'rotec-
tionist cheers.) He would not have land in Ireland if
anybody would give it to him.—(Protectionist cheers.)
It was owing to protection that Ireland was hitherto
enabled to crawl on.—(Laughter.) It was all very well
for gentlemen to laugh, but could they laugh who could
get no rent and no victuals?—(Hear.) lie said long
ago the handwriting was on the wall. He said so now.
" Coming events cast their shadows before." Their
estates would be taken from thorn. They were not now
in a condition to benefit from free trade. He should
oppose the proposition of the Noble Lord, and vote for
the amendment.
Mr. MOORE said that he should vote for the propo-
sition of her Majesty's Ministers, because no other had
been suggested to meet the present emergency, and sup-
port the poor of the country. As the representative of
a suffering people, he called upon the House of Com-
mons to come to their aid. Would they not stand be-
tween them and starvation ?—(The call for a division
became so loud that the Honourable Gentleman became
inaudible.)
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the great majority
of the House bad decided upon two points—first, that
some aid should be given to the starving people; and,
second, that that aid should come from Ireland. The
only question then was as to the best means of raising
the rate required. To raise the taxation of Ireland to
a level with England would impose much
greater burdens than that plan already proposed.
It was objected that the rate proposed imposed an
additional burden upon property already too much bur-
dened; but yet it was property which both in England
and in Ireland was charged with the support of the poor.
Great difficulties would attend at present the imposition
of a property and income-tax. The tax proposed might
be possibly continued, but the property and income-tan
would be certainly continued.—(A laugh.) He could
only say that any scheme or plan proposed by the Right
Hon. Gentleman the Member for Tamworth deserved
the utmost attention; but he did not think that the cir-
cumstences of the present time were so similar to those
under which the settlement of Ulster, under James the
First, took place as to make the application of a similar
policy now likely to answer the same purposes.
However, he did not wish to enter into that discussion,
but he only wished to say that he was not insensible of
the value of any proposition from so experienced a states-
man as the Right Hon. Baronet. He now left the ques-
tion with the House.

tke objects it had in view. He did not believe that
250,0004 would be collected under the measure, and he
did •
not believe that any of it could be collected until
after harvest He had beard it said that were this mea-
t
then.
Passed, some of the magistrates would throw up
to en. commissions. He believed that if they attempted
eollect the sixpenny rate they would endanger the
!hole system of the poor-laws. Why did they not
Ire! e those defaulting districts in the south and west of
theet,tld support their own poor? In the south of Ireland
f
land was better and more productive than in the
urth, and why could the south, then, not support its
Poor as well as the north ? The lands of Ireland were
0. than sufficient to support the poor of Ireland, and
hY Proper management they would do so. There was,
therefore, no need for the imposition of such an men-
-I°3t as that proposed, which would be making the in-
111trioa, and careful pay for the support of the indolent
kol careless.
M.r. P. FRENCH said that he agreed with the last
4aker, and with the Hon. Member for Dublin (Mr.
33°14), that this rate in aid is objectionable in prin-
telPie, insufficient in amount, and must ultimately tend
o
Ithist'll inotia consequences, not only to Ireland, but also
t 4 country. He considered that Connaught, bad as
11 at present conditioned, would be able not only to
th"tiPPort its poor, but to have surplus funds to develop
tune rich resources of that province, if dealt with in the
—e !tanner as the agricultural interest of this country
ol,llcll. been dealt with, and as Holland, Prussia, and
er kingdoms of the continent, have dealt with their
tet)/illees, by railways and canals; but he regretted
811 Y that all Governments, instead of applying
,r°4elal remedies to Ireland, always contented themselves
,etil producing political; stimulants. He was fully
"'feared that there never was a time that any Govern-
hlll,ll had fewer difficulties than the present, because all
re"tical agitation had ceased, and because it was the
iaTre of all parties in Ireland to contribute their aid,
etrotlelice, and energy to the amelioration of all classes.
e,4,11s to the 250,0001. that would be procured, if pro-
tb;.'! from the sixpenny rate in aid, every one knew
1,t;," At. would not only not tend to the employment of the
tb booting classes, but would not support them for more
a few weeks. The Hon. Gentleman then referred
'lie woollen and linen trade of Ireland, which, he said,
1,04 taken from that country by the envy of the English
13411,Sfacturer through the instrumentality of a British
ri„llliarnent. Ho was fully convinced that neither arte-
' drainage nor any other measure of improvement
could be carried on advantageously in Ireland while the
aO4, °11,r4 of Works were themselves the employers, the
al.men, and the paymasters; and argued that there
u_Uld be no requisition for a rate in aid, or any other
ittettstlre, if an income-tax were properly and efficiently
t`roduced into that country; but tho present system, if
loPeeered in, would bring ruin, and if changed would be
followed by many and important benefits.
CONOLLY would consider that he was not per-
eetil'ule his duty to his constituents if he did not rise to
ter UIL •
o, 5 most strenuous opposition to the motion of the
ahuis Lord (Lord J. Russell).—(Hear, hear.) He
th 41,1 ask the House to consider the present state of
ese 21 unions out of 131 which are in a state of hope-
r-its bankruptcy, and would also ask, was not some
eetelne other than that introduced by Government ma-
,,ll7?—particularly as there were 10 others in a state
Ife-eI,"Y deplorable as those 21 to which he had Adverted.
ound that of one hundred remaining unions there were
"Y burdened with a heavy amount of debt. It was,
the r!fore, monstrous these should be called upon to pay
ituebts of °4 others before they had liquidated their own.
all
8 absurd to say that the rate was to be levied upon
ai the unions in Ireland, when only fifty or
4113' unions were free of debt and able to pay
fiettee rate. When they ought to know those
dot', it was not fair in Government to come
bews to the House and propose that all the unions should
la,-Y1 the rate in aid. In point of fact, the rate would
aie to be made upby an increased taxation upon those
no: were able to pay.—(Hear, hear.) The case was
re, --on the one hand, either England, with her vast
11, ?Ilrees, must come forward, or, on the other hand,
eisnd must be made to meet the difficulty. If they
stlme°aPted the latter alternative, how were they to levy
or s rate from the whole of Ireland, when only fifty
lbc,,,sieltY unions could pay?—(Hear, hear.) It was,
i:Te, a delusion to talk of levying off the whole of
a:eau. The levy, in fact, was to be made off Ulster
ath Leinster, and a small portion of Connaught. An-
te ehr delusion which was contained in the Noble Lord's
is°,tv,.°lition was that of making the rate last only for two
beli,,,'Bl and he made it, he said, on the ground that he
vd the destitution would last for that period.
Ord': ne (Mr. Conolly) did' not believe, unless extra-
a.thlllurY measures were adopted, that the destitution
tee extreme misery—would last only for a period of
for Years. Unless Government was prepared to come
teii Itru with some comprehensive measure do meet the
1/„' no did net see how it was to be got rid of. The
Ij Member then alluded to the speech of the Right
la;,'
l• Baronet the Member for Tamworth (Sir R. Peel)
rlght---sa speech which had filled him with muchcould' and he asked whether it was likely that any man
ese''d Part with estates which were endeared to him by
thlrY tie f'
themhuanity ?—(Hear.) He would tell them
gi,t before possessors of estates in Ireland would
fore them up there would be a dire struggle, and every
th,r.4 of law would be resorted to in the maintenance of
to
till; rights.—(Cries o Hear, hear.") With reference
o tete main question before the house, he objected to the
r aid, as being unfair and unjust, and especially as
110 Iferred to the county which he represented (Donegal).b
would make a comparison between the county of
ilettl'gal, which did not ask for a rate in aid, with the
did Piton or one union, and the county of Clare, which
2t and he•founrl that in Clare the population was only
" 14°11'354, while in Donegal it was 296,448 ; so that,
10 'ugh tho laWr had a population above Clare of
'4454, it was, nevertheless unjustly called upon to
, le pe, Ceod the deficiency of neglect or mismanagement
.no'iture. With reference to what had been said about
4 'QYalty of the north of Ireland, he, for his part, did
st°-think that the loyalty of the north of Ireland would
k d;;" the test of the gross injustice involved in the
"414 of the present measure, and he would not think
te worse of their loyalty on that account. The Hon.
etnber concluded by reiterating his hostility to the
Ill!tPosed rate in aid.
CASTLEREAGH complimented the Hon.
limber who had just addressed the House on the
h.itY he had displayed with reference to a question in
)t ileh Irish Members were so deeply interested. He
hld to refer to the speech of the Hon. Member for
ler)tk, ( Mr. ) R,,chewho was not, he was sorry to perceive,
ke-11 lace. That Hon. Member said he supported the
eti,l4ure because he perceived no other means of allevi-
tig the distress which so unfortunately prevailed in
44'441. Bnt he (Lord Castlereagh) should like to be
to ~-1111 ed whether that argument might not be applied
feifY Measure that Government might choose to bring
to Churd--(Hear, hoar.) If Government had come down
tbaue House, and had proposed a still stronger measure,
argument would be precisely the same.—(Hear.)
Oq must take the proposition of the Government, or the
pa5,.11,1,e would starve. Now, those who opposed the pro-
tb,'r°ll were not uncharitable, but they did not like that
ire industry of Ulster should pay for the idleness and
4°l'idence of Connaught. No part of England had
tbabrialt•ded more largely to relieve the distress in Ireland
eyttl. ulster had done, and particularly the town of Bel-
ler --(Hear.) It was not for the opponents of the Moe-
fore,,to tell the House what taxes ought to be imposed,
e0p:','.637 had not had an opportunity of consulting their
th Ittlente but they would be informed of the views
eierijeciPle entertained, as they were holding meetings
to I/there throughout the province. He (Lord Castle-
-104") objected to the tax, not on account of the land
rate but on account of the occupiers of land and the
tat 131_11Yers. Neither the justice nor the policy of the
for 4d been supported. The Honourable Member
eera Cork had come forward as the advocate of the
Itehruercial interest of Ireland. But did the
ISZGentleman recollect that there was such a place in
lea-nd as Belfast? The tonnage of Belfast was, in
tleeb; 53,800 tons. It had risen in twelve years to
Of )04 'e its amount of tonnage. The imports and exports
aa"elfast were last year of the value of 8,037,0001., and
ties 11uOr than 2,000,000/. over Cork, and equally so in
I,•il'°Uat over Dublin. This was a pretty good reason
I%Y Belfast should be heard in this case, and this town
° decidedly hostile to the proposed rate in aid.—(Hear,
feare) He deeply regretted the course taken by the
lgot Rem Baronet the Member for Tamworth, for he
t after his statement, that as far as the position of the
ellonents of this rate was concerned, their case was a
a°Peless one. The Right Hon. Baronet said he should
:It object to take into consideration the proposition
o an income-tax for Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) He re-
li'tted the manner in which the Right Hon. Baronet
fpottlded to this matter. It seemed to him that
In the observations made by the Right Hon.
heetritlenian that they were not only to haves rate in aid,
t, that next year they would find the Chancellor of the
ie-seeuelitter coming down to the House and proposing an
eta me-tax on Ireland, which he feared would have the
terillurt of the Right Hon. Baronet. If they were going
tbh`ttz. Ireland in this way, let the Government grant
land rit a Committee to see what amount of taxation Ire-
foutht to bear in accordance with the terms of the
ct°uUnion. Let them carry out fairly that Act, and
lanlreland in her distress was entitled to relief from Eng-
ltea'a why should she not receive it? Do not act to-
ere„-411 her as if these ties that bound her to this country
notreal ties, or as if she was, as some Honourable
tat;,l3llbers seemed to think she was, an incubus on Eng-
Th:' Allusion had been made to the loyalty of Ulster.
tejele Could, however, be no doubt, that come what
laatr'"fts Ulster would be loyal to the Crown of England,
Ate this course of policy was pursued towards her, it
It repent possible that the question might arise whether
etdoof the union was a disloyal question to be con-
-I,l:tie—Meer, hear.)
tieria'IM'CULLAGII said a great variety of sugges-
Sef„"ad been thrown out in the course of that debate,
eoetntne Hon. Members seemed to think that an in-
she —"ex, which would give the Chancellor of the Ex-
ero Tier 1,100,0001. was to be preferred, to a rate that
Pte tlal „Wily give him 300,000/.—(Hear, hear.) The peo-
at k-;onnaught had been termed idle and lazy—but
leho's unkind to make such a charge against that people
er f Were suffering both from the effects of a visitation,
bour°lll the miserable pittance of 4d. a day for their la-
selliWhich was all they received previous to the famine.
the e,ear, hear.) An estate rate had been suggested—
of fre"ect of such would be to establish a complete power
atatletting rid of the poor on the land. The present
*hi '3f Connaught was owing to the way in
ulbem the landlords of that province had treated
Ste% People there. The Honourable Gentlemen
Ikea referred to an estate which he had seen
)444° Ikon time since. A large tract of this
the 143 covered with fresh grass. He learned from
the fursens attending the property that the occupants of
'0,44 and had been recently evicted from it, and the land
tai tb_zlva recovering itself from the poverty to which it
kid "an reduced by being over-worked. On the other
anon evicted
the road, near a dark bog, the people who bad
antiVlvicted were building themselves 24 wretched huts,
icputrus those fugitive persons were put into a state of
114 41043.1zdtshe evictors of the landlord. He thought
of such property ought to be called

MINORITY—NOES, 164.
Adair, Hugh E. Tot tescue, Chichester Morgan, 11. K.
Mare, Viscount Fox, R. M. Morgan, 0.
Adderley, C. B. Fox, S. L. MuHinge, J. R.
Alexander, N. Frewen, C. 11. Muntz, G. F.
A rolidall, Captain Fuller, A. E. Napier, Joseph
Arkwright, G. Galway, Viscount Neeld, Joseph
Bagge, W. Gaskell, J. M. Newdegate, C. N.
itankes, G. Gladstone, W. E. Newport, Visct.
Baring, Thomas Gore, W. R. 0. Newry, Viscount
Barrington, Viscount Goulburn, Henry Nugent, Sir Percy
Barron, Sir 11. Grace, 0. D. 011rien, Sir Lucius
Bennet, Philip Greene, John O'Connell, M. J.
Beresford, William Gwyn, Rowel O'Connor, Feargus
Bernard, Yiscount Haggitt, F. B. O'Flaherty, Anthony
Blake, Martin J. Belford, Sir Henry Parke, C. W.
Boldero, Henry Hamilton, G. A. Pigot, Sir R.
Bourke, R. S. Hamilton, J. H. Plumptre, J. P.
Bowles, Admiral Harris, Captain Repton, G. W. J.
Bremridge, Richard Hayes, Sir E. Richards, Richard
Brisco, M. Henley, J. W. St. George, Chris.
Broadloy, Henry Herbert, H. A. Scott, Francis
Brooke, Lord Herbert, Sydney Scrope, G. P.
Brooke, Sir Arthur Berries, J. C. Scully-, Francis
Bruce, C. L. C. Hervey, Lord.A. Simeon, John
Buller, Sir Y. Hill, Lord E. Smyth, J. G.
Banbury, William Hood, Sir A. Spooner, It.
Burghley, Lord Ilorsman, E. Stafford, Augustus
Burroughes, 11. N. Howard, Sir It. Stanley, Edward
Callaghan, D. Jermyn, Earl Stuart, Henry
Campbell, W. F. Jocelyn, Viscount Stuart, J.
Carew, W. P. Jones, Captain Sullivan, Michael
Castlereagh, Vis. Ker, Richard Sutton, 11. M.
Caulfeild, J. M. Knight, F. W. Talbot, J. H.
Cayley, Edward S. Lennard,J. B. Taylor, T. E.
Chandes, Marq. of Lennox, Lorl H. Tenison, E. K.
Chichester, Lord J. Leslie, C. P. Thesiger, Sir F.
Christy, Samuel Lewisham, Viscount Thompson, Alderman
Clements, Charles Lincoln, Earl of Trevor, G. R.
Clive, Henry B. Lindsay, Colonel Turner, George
Cobbold, J. C. Lockhart, W. Tyrrell, Sir J. ;
Cocks, T. G. Lopes, Sir Ralph Verner, Sir W.
Cele, H. A.: Mackenzie, W. F. Vesey, T.
Coles, 11. B. M`.Naghten, Sir E. Vivian, J. E.
Conolly, Thomas Macnamara, Major Vyse, It. H.
Corry, H. Meagher, Thomas Waddington, 11. S.
Cotton, W. 11. Mahon, Viscount Walpole, Spencer
Davies, D. A. S. Mandeville, Viscount Walsh, Sir J.
Dod, J. W. March, Earl of West, F. It.
Dodd, G. Maunsell, T. I'. Wodehouse, E.
Drumlanrig, Via. Maxwell, lion. J. P. Wortley, J. S.
Du Pro, C. G. Mein, Sir 11. Young, Sir John
Edwards, Henry Miles, P. W. S.
Fagan, James Miles, W. TBLLUA.
Ferguson, Sir R. Milton, Viscount Blackall, S. W.
Fitawilliam, G. W. Monsell, William Grogan, Edward
1 Forester, G. C. Moody, C. A.

ENGINEERS, MASONIC, AND UNI-
VERSAL MUTUAL LIFE ASSURANCE
SOCIE rY.
The ordinary general meeting of the members of this
flourishing mutual society was held yesterday, at the
offices, 345, Strand, at two o'clock; W. F. Dobson, Esq.,
M.A., occupied the chair.
Mr. FREDERICK LAWRANCE, the actuary and secretary,
read the following report of the directors :
" The directors heartily congratulate the members,
that the principles of life assurance enunciated in their
prospectus, combined with the zealous exertions of the
assured, have secured to the society a large amount of
public support.
" In the interval from the 7th of June, 1848, (the date
of the society's certificate of complete registration), to
the close of the year, two hundred and fifty-three pro-
posals for assurance to the amount of 81,330/. were sub-
mitted to the board—twenty-eight of which, for an
amount of 11,0001., were declined—and two hundred
and eight policies, securing the sum of 64,5801., have
been completed, the annual premiums derivable from
which are 2,0661. 3s. 7d.
" However satisfactory this result must be, the busi-
ness of the office during the last two months has, pro-
portionately, far exceeded that of the previous half-
year, inasmuch as 144 additional proposals for the
amount of 33,140/. have been received, and 108 already
completed, making
The number of policies existing with
... 316
Fotrheansoacmieotyunt
of. . . .
••• • • ... £93,380
And the annual income from premiums £3,013 3s. 6d.
" Notwithstanding the large number of individuals
assured, no claim has arisen from death amongst the
solicy-holders.
The directors have only to request the continued
co-operation of the members in diffusing the knowledge
of the society, that the following problem may receive a
satisfactory solution for their nenannual report:—
" If an association of twenty persons, acting zealously
upon the purest principles of life assurance, and pro-
mulgating widely its inestimable benefits, have obtained,
in less than seven months, so large an accession to their
numbers, what amount of business can be produced by
the combined exertions of more than three hundred
members?"
The report of the auditors, Messrs. Cates, Cullington,
Surrage, and Tatham, which was also read, testified to
the careful examination by them of the accounts of the
directors, and that they were strictly correct.
The CHAIRMAN then moved the adoption of the re-
port. In doing so he assured the members that the
accounts had been submitted to the test of the most rigid
examination on the part of the auditors, and that it was
highly gratifying o the directors to find that these gen-
tlemen had reported most favourably upon them. The
members would be good enough to bear in mind that
though the receipts only extended over and represented
the business transacted by the society during the last six
months, yet that the disbursements extended over a
much larger space of time, namely, whilst the promoters
of the undertaking were embodying it; and doubtless it
would be satisfactory to the members to learn that the
entire expense of obtaining and furnishing the very
eligible premises in which they were assembled,
and, indeed, all the preliminary expenses from
its establishment, were comprised in the accounts
that day submitted to them. It gave the directors the
most unfeigned pleasure to inform them that the past
progress indicated that success could not fail to attend
the labours of the institution in the future—(Hear)—yes,
as the success of some men often engendered envy and
spleen in his neighbours, they could not be surprised to
learn that this society had not been altogether free from
remarks, possibly offered in a good-natured spirit, upon
its plan and position. It had been said that though a
quantity of business had been transacted, and would
doubtless continue to be transacted, though they had
effected a large number of policies, yet that the quality
of the business was not of such a nature as to ensure
security. He thought that the foot note at-
tached to the report was the best answer he
could offer to the observations to which he referred.
The 208 policies issued during the half-year were dis-
incidental to the lives of 203 individuals.—(Cheers.) The
pursed among and had the advantage of all the chances
remaining policiy-holders ;had exhibited the estimation
in which they held the society by taking up additional
polices. They had 23 policies for 1,000/., amounting to
23,000/.; 28 for 500/., amounting to 14,0001.; 23 for
3001., amounting to 6,100/.; and 73 for 100/7 amounting
to 7,3001., which presented apretty
the character and amount of thebusiness transacted.
fair
test of
Again it was said that they caught at all policies that
were offered—in fact, that all was fish that came to their
net.—(Laughter.) Now this was not true, inasmuch as
they declined all lives which they could not accept with
fairness to the members; they threw such lives over-
board. Thanks to the excellent skill and discrimination
of the medical officers, whose ability and care he could
not too highly commend—(Cheers)—the directors had
declined twenty-eight policies for 11,000!., being in
fact eleven per cent. of the number of pro-
posals effected, or thirteen per cent, of the
entire number offered for their acceptance.—(Cheers.)
Care and caution of this nature must influence to a vast
extent the prosperity of any office based on a similar
foundation to theirs. It had been also said, that during
the first year a mutual society like this, exhausted all
its connexion and influence, the directors having by that
time brought in all their personal friends; and that,
therefore, during the second year its progress must,
as a matter of course, be slow. Now, on a
comparison of the amount of business transacted last
year with what had been done in the present, ho found
that during each month of the present year
the number of policies issued, and their amount, far ex-
ceeded the number issued during any month in the past
year.—(Hear, hear.) He had observed is the reports
recently issued by other offices that any falling off of
business was attributed to the late commercial depres-
sion. Now he did not agree in that view, as he con-
sidered that prudent and diligent men, of whom assurers
generally consisted, became more thoughtful with respect
to the future condition of their families when they
found that their business did not realise so
much as in former years; they naturally adopted
the very salutary means of effecting that purpose offered
by life assurance. He, therefore, on the contrary, attri-
buted much of the success of the office to the recent
commercial distress.—(Hear, hear.) He did not think
the promoters of the society were wrong when they en-
tertained the belief that there was room for another
new office ; indeed, the results of its working had satis-
fied the directors that this society had been the means
of developing, in a popular and advantageous manner,
the great benefit of life assurance, of enabling those
classes to assure their lives, who, but for its system,
would, perhaps, not assure their lives at all ; and he be-
lieved, as its great advantages continued to develop
themselves, and the sphere of its labours was, therefore,
augmented, that its patrons and supporters would in-
crease in the same ratio. If any jealousy was entertained
towards them by any other office, hi assured the
members, that the feeling was not reciprocated, since
their plan, their labours, and their success presented fea-
tures of honourable emulation.—(Cheers.) And they
might depend upon it, if the exertions of the directors
were seconded in the proper spirit by the members, as
he was sure they would be, and if all their transactions
were actuated by two great and fixed principles—liberality
and good faith to the public, and caution and economy in
the management (to accomplish which nothing should be
wanting on the part of the directors)—he saw no reason why
the office should not have an unbounded and uninter-
rupted career of success. Having expressed his wish to
reply to any questions that might be put, he concluded by
moving the adoption of the report.—(Cheers.)
Mr. M. J. TATHAM (one of the auditors) seconded the
motion. It had been his duty, in conjunction with the
other auditors, to examine the accounts, and it gave him
groat pleasure to state that they were kept accurately
and carefully. So well were they arranged, and so
easy of reference, that he considered the directors de-
served their warmest thanks for the care, zeal, and atten-
tion they had devoted to their affairs.
The motion was carried unanimously.
Mr. CULLINGTON proposed the re-election of the four
directors who had retired by rotation, namely, G. W.
Dasent, Esq., C. J. Longridge, Esq., the Rev. J. W.
Watson, M.A., and T. L. Wilson, Esq. Irrespective of
his character as one of tho auditors, he wished to
state that he held endowment policies in the so-
ciety in favour of his children, and many of
his
friends, on his recommendation, had assured in it.
They would believe him, therefore, when he said that
he had been anxious to see how the affairs of the society
were conducted. He had had an opportunity of judging
in his capacity as auditor, and he assured the members
that the result was most satisfactory.--Olear, hear.)
They could, therefore, safely congratulate themselves on
having a most efficient and industrious body of directors,
and he had much pleasure in moving that they be re•
quested to resume their seats at the board, and there
continue those exertions whieh they had commenced so
admirably.—(Cheers.)
Mr. GRIFFIN seconded the motion, which was carried
unanimously.
The Rev. Mr. WATSON thanked the members on be-
half of himself and his co-directors for restoring them to
their places on the board. They had been put upon
their trial, as to whether they had or had not during the
few months they had been in office neglected the in-
terests of the society. They had pleaded " not guilty,"
and by their verdict the members had affirmed and
established their plea, and found it to be a good one.—
(Hear, hoar.) It should be their earnest desire to justify
what the members had done by
.diligence, and by every
means in their power promoting the interests and
success of the society, which had so auspici-
ously begun. Indeed, it was their bounden
duty to do so, since the object of the society was the
maintenance of many
families, when the handor the head
now winning their bread was laid low in the dust.—
(Hear.) He had heard this objection raised to life as-
surance—that in a religious point of view it was an act
of great presumption. Now it came within Lis province
to assert the contrary—(Hear)—that life assurance was
a practical acknowledgment of their conviction of the
uncertainty of that tenure by which they held their pre-
stilt frail existence. In fact, every man desirous of pro-
viding for those near and dear to him in the
event of his death might justify the assurance of his
life on very many grounds; if indeed any justification of
such an act were required they had it in the words of
David of old, who exclaimed " There is but a stop be•
tween me and death."—(Cheers.)
Mr. DAINES moved the re-election of Mr Tatham as
one of the auditors, which was seconded by Mr. COHEN,
and carried.
Mr. TATHAM expressed his acknowledgments.
On the motion of Mr. GRIFFIN, a vote of thanks was
awarded to the directors.
The CLIAIRsIAN returned thanks, and drew attention
to the.fact that though the attendance of the members
was not large, yet that there was a large attendance of
directors, and during the last two months the attendance
of directors had not been less than ten at any of their
meetings. Though their society might not be graced
with royal patronage, yet with confidence the members

The exports for the entire year amount to 46,407,939/.,
and the total decrease is 4,597,0001. The variations of
each month are subjoined:—

Increase. Decrease.
.Z. X.
Month ending February 5 149,228 ...
March 5.. ......

... 580,583
... 1,467,117
... 1,122,009
... 953,358
925,284
... 530,381
.. 63,260

April 5
May 5
June 5 —
July 5
August
Sept. 5
October 10 .....
Not. 5 30,994
Dec. 5
Jan. 5 ..... 589,301 ...

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BANK OF FRANCE.
The following is a return of the situation of the Bank
of France up to March 1 :

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The Committee then divided, and there appeared—
For the amendment 164
Against it .. 237
Majority against ••• ••• 73
Ur. REYNOLDS then moved a resolution to be 'Added

Another Amendment proposed, at the end of the Question
to add the words " That for the purpose of augmenting the
fund proposed to be raised by a rate in aid of sixpence in the
pound from all property rated to the relief of the destitute
poor in Ireland for the next two years, the same rate should
be charged upon all salaries paid to Government officers,
being not less than 1501. per annum, and upon all income
derived from the public funds, and that all moneys derived
from the Tax at present collected in England on income de-
rived from Ireland, be for the next two years applied to the
same fund :" Question put, " That those words be there
added." The Committee divided :--
MINORITY—AYES, 51.
Barron, Sir IL Harris, Captain O'Flaherty, Anthony
Bonnet, Philip Hayes, Sir E. Packs, C. W.
Burroughesal. Henley, J. W. Philips, Sir G. R.
Runbury, W. llervey, Lord A. rower, Nicholas
Callaghan, D. ' Hood, Sir A. Recite, E. B.
Chaplin, W. J. Jocelyn, Viscount Scott, F.
Christy, Samuel Keating, Robert Scully, Francis
Clements, Charles Lindsay, Colonel Sullivan, Michael
Cobbold, John C. Miles, Philip W. S. Tollemache, F. d.
Pod, J. W. Mlles, William Trevor, G.
Dodd, George Moore, George H. Tyrrell, Sir J.
Duncan, Lore Morgan, H. K. Wawn, J. T.
Fagan, William Munti, G. F. Wodehouse, E.
Fitzpatrick, J. W. Ilevrclegate, N. Woretly, J. B.
Fox, Richard M. Newry, Viscount
Gore, W. 0. Nugent, Sir Percy THUM.
Grace, 0. 1). O'Connell, M. J. Reynolds, Jonh
Greens, John O'Connor, Feargus Spooner, Richard

MAJORITY-NOES, 212.

Main Question put. The Committee divided :
MAJORITY—AYES. 206.

MINORITY-NOES, 34.
Archdall, Captain Ferguson, Sir R. Nugent, Sir:Percy
Bagge, William Fitzpatrick, J. W. O'Flaherty, Anthony
Barron, Sir 11. Gore, W. R. St. George, Chris.
Bennet, P. Greene, John Scully,Francis
Blake, 111. J. Gwyn, Hovel Simeon, John
Bunhery, William Hamilton, G. A. Sullivan, Michael
Callaghan, D. Hayes, Sir E. Tenison, E. K.
Caulleild, J. M. Howard, Sir R. Tennent, R. J.
Clements, Charles Jocelyn, Viscount
Crawford, W. S. Keating, Robert TELLERS.
Dawson, T. V. Leonard, T. B. Fox, Richard H.
Dodd, George 3111 es, P. W. Dunne, Francis P.
Fagan, James Newry, Viscount

GLASGOW, MARCH 3.—Cotton—During the week
we have had a quiet market ; a limited business has
been done, and little of it on speculation. Prices are
not lower than on this day week. The transactions
during February amount to from 13,000 to 15,000 bales.
The yarn in the market is firm, with a tendency to ad-
vance. Pig Iron.—Our pig iron market has been very
quiet during the week, but prices have not given way
much. Mixed numbers may be quoted 525. cash; all
No. I, 525. 6d. to 535.; No. 1, Gartsherrie, 565. cash.
Bars are in fair demand at from 6/, 10s. to 71. per ton,
less discount for cash.

♦ SSETS.

Cash and ingots
Ditto in branch banks

f. 173,892,623 96
. . 129,448,352 00
2,295,697 96

Bills past due •••
Bills falling due in Paris, of which
14,620,680 f. 6c. are from the branch
banks ••• ••• ... 49,412,885 52
Bills in the branch banks ... 91,487,502 62
Advances on coins and ingots... ... 20,655,548 00
Ditto on French public securities ... 31,363,454 40
Ditto by branch banks... ... 1,554,337 00
Ditto to the State on Bons du Tresor... 50,000,000 00
Ditto on the loan of 150 millions ... $0,000,000 00
Renter of the reserve fund 10,000,000 00
Rentes, disposable funds ... 42,581,488 13
Investments of the new branch banks in

the public funds ... 12,806,741 39
Hotel and furniture of the Bank ... 4,000,000 00
Real property of the branch banks ... 2,273,734 00
Loan of 10,000,0001. to the city of Paris 7,000,000 00
Interest in National Discount Bank ... 200,000 00
Ditto branch banks ... 230,000 00
Bills protested at Paris 8,765,756 04
Ditto at the branches ... 4,534,955 00
Expenses of administration of the Bank 246,762 74
Ditto of the branches ... 143,547 00
Miscellaneous 453,069 15
Advance to the department of the

Seine ... ... ... ... 2,000,000 00
Loan of 3,000,0001. to the City of Mar-
seilles ... ... ... ... ... 750,000 00

f. 696,096,454 91