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London, England, 1809-03-21 00:00:00

WOK Ran
-passes elltt not .Dear Upon the view ne nut
always taken of the se.bjea, and that the event now
announced cola take no alteration ,in Isis mode of
conduft. In his view, the odious chtirge of corrup-
tton met with no stronger or .more, determined op:.
poeentthan himself. He had voted cheerfully with
both the Resolutions.of acquittal moved brthe Right
Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Exchequer),
and he regretted extremely, ,that some Gentlemen
thought they could not go sO fat-With him. 11..yond
that vote he would have gone to say, that no lurking
suspicion existed which ought to prevent the Duke
of York going into the world with clean hands,,
The Hon. Gentleman now took a view of•the origi-
nal state of the question; and what had induced him
to take' the nett he did. Still he• thought it necessary,
as an admonition to the present,; end an example` to
future Commanders, that the Journals of the House
of Commons shcnld bettratpou them an expression
of the sense, the Hoese entertained open •some,ef the
faas unfolded in this investigatiian, which did not
Amount to cortuptionir 'or connivance at curroptlon.
lie was also intiiined to persevere in his resolution,
frOm a consideration OP! his promise of bringing it
for Ward had had some effetlt ie. keeping several gen-
tlemen' limn voting , with the severer measures, pro=
posed. by the Hort. Gentlemao(Mr. Wardle), and
hip Hon. Friend (Mr. Bartkes). He conceived that
Parliament were called upou to. prenotthee on parts of
evidence, not contained in ahe.ongioal charge, if
these,parts were material, and particularly so it they
were conneeted with the political' qtr stion which
arose afterwards; and it was as being thus con-
neeted, and not as resting on moral grounds alone,
that he now asked the House to come to an opinion
on the comanmication and interterende• in military
matters Which bad been proveu.to exist. He would
not go into a statement of the faits which,bore him
O.IIL in this Resolution, after, they had been so re-
peatedly canvasted, and which affixed the only stigma
that was attached to the conduct of the Commander
in Chief:. The lion, Gentleman defended himself
Iron the charge of aggraeating his Resolution by any
harsh epithets ; and thought that if something of
the kind were not agreed to, it weld(' not be known
from their Journals whether they had eot negleaed
to look iota the allegations of negligence and :ins-
condua contained in the evidence. The sound part
of the community would look for an opinion upon
this point ; others, of a different description, might
be dissatisfied with what the House. had done, but
when they knew and weighed deliberately the real
state of the facts, every thinking person, he was Con-
vinced, Must be satisfied with their past • Resolu-
tions. But what, was to satisfy them, kvere .the
House not to deliver,an opinion on this material part •
of the question,? Justice between the public and
his Royal Highness, in his mind, demanded such,a
determination. He concluded by reading 'his Reso-
letion , • ,
•.4‘. That while the House acknowledges the beneficial ef..
fens of the regul.,rivna adoptvd and, acted upon by his Itbyal
Highness the Dekc of York, in the general discharge of his
duty as Commander at Chief, they cannot help regretting,
that in cons.ignetii.e of a cohnection of the most =mural and
unbecoming tendoncy; collimunications had been allowed to
be made on military subjeal,,and interl'erct= had taken place
in the grant ofprotheitionsand.cOmmissioii, calculated to tits.
creditoineoltictal atuninistration of his 'Royal ligliness,alul
,tosive colour; as they liaadonei to charges of toe most 5e
rieus nature."

Sir NV: CURTIS ;hortly Spoke iu favour of this,p,e-
sol,ition, and tho,ighti there were nonic tl)ings
the table which ought not tr.; o:unnoticed, '

Lord Al..l'llOEl I' ft ;weed with the HatiourAle Gen.
tleman who moved the Resolution that it was alms,
to the country to, be Lk-privet! of the Servicet of any
one who tilled vn 'Official situation, but- he doubted
'Whether in the present instance it would nth be di-
, minuted by, the Commando. in :laving lost
the confidence of the country. As tar 'as the lost
'depended upon the rank of the -individual, after
what they had seeivrif the delicacy with which this
investigation had been treated by the Honse, he must
think every one would agree, with him in thinking
that it would, be. better to have in responsible situa-
tions persons uut so high in rank. The 1-16t7. Gen-
tleman had stated that hls ground for moving the
Resolution was, because lielhottOwthe greater ctrarge
of corruption not proved.
For
his
t3erit'tittaistiC.lii inay thator
der to justify the vote he had given,
be did, think (the Poke of York had • been proven
guilty of connivance 'at corruption. The question
did not now
,stand en proper grounds. They ought
to shew, that but. for the'retegnation of the Com-
anander in Chief they would have gene fuhher, and'
they ought tri place on' their journals a decision to
that etfea— The country, he believed would be
satisfied with his removal from his situation, and it
• Was not his ohje& in the amendment he had to pro•
pose to trespass on the paternal feelings of-his Ma-
jesty. The Volte of York, in his opinion, never could
regain the confidence of the country, and be re-ap-
pointed to hi* High Office. lf, however, circum-
stances ever happened which raised 'him to the
Throne, he truSted he would be taught that no Ger.'
vant he might chase to appoint, however high or
favoured he might. be, could retain his situation
when -disappfaved of by the public. The Noble.
Lord concluded by. moving as ,an etnenclmentt that
all the 'words iii the original Resolution after the.
Word " that" should he omitted, and the.following'
words inseried,.." The Duke of York having re-
signed, the, House do-not think it necessary'now to
proceed any further with 'the Report on the evt
deuce adduced before the Connittee,,Ace. as farmit
eepco!dithe-Doke of York." y
WitiTstirb Kikti g Said a' few words .in so
lOW tone that we .could not make out on twhich
side he spoke.

Mr.*LOCKIIART
.agreed generally with the Rasa.
solution of Mr. 'Bathurst; and alluded' to a ruis.
statement of what had fallen from . him en Friday,.
on the main" TJestion; but which had since been
etfeaually corrected.
Mr. CARTWRIONT did not .see the, necessity for
any further proceeding, as ;the resignation of the
Commander in Chief was e'perted atonement for
any offence less _than corruption alleged against
him. He expressed his approbation of In Royal
'Highness's conduCt, and declared 'that he differed
utterly in opinion from his Noble Colleague (Lerd
Althorpe.)
Mr. (NIA PA thaught the people wonld,be
fled with the Resolutions
..the House had already,
come to,:and maintained that a Commander Chief
above Ministerial irttlUence, appointed by the preto.
&alive of the Crown, wss preferable to 3 pL4,01,
lower. rank. As didministrations changed, he still
remained ; but if Etc was ot:ouch,a description as to

fluen-ce, which was more hurtful than any private
connection could be. He did not
.Ace at had been
pzoven that the system of the army had beep touched
by such a connection. Every person who had been
promoted had a just claim for what they-obtained,
and he could not see what right
.Parliament had to
interfere with the prerogative of the CroWn in tills
manner.. He agreed with neither the Resolution nor
Amendment, and thought a third would be neces-
airy, stating, "That though there was, and had been
a report of improper 'interference in the Military ad-
ministration of the Duke of York, nothing of that
kind had induced his Royal Highness to promote
any Officer contrary to the propriety or the rules of
Fervice." If no other Gentleman did, he would
move an Amendtbent to this area.

The CHANCELLOR at the EXCHEQUER said, that
after the communication he' had had , the honour
to make, he did think the House and his Honoura-
ble Friend would have been of opinion ,to • proceed
farther was wholly unnecessary; ,if, however, it
was considered proper to proceed, 'he could have no
objedion to meet the discussion. With respect to
the proposed Resolution and Amendment, he could
only say, he preferred the Aniendment to the ori-
ginal Resolution,; but he could not agree even to the
Amendment, unless it was. farther amended, as he
considered it by no means unexceptionable. He
did justice to the motives 'which actuated his Hon.
Friend (Mr. Bathurst), who, he believed, through-
. our the, whole business, ad ever given his vote, as
the best feelings of his heart, did ated ; but he would
not 'accede or the proposed Resolution, as he thought
much censure was contained in it with little founda-
tion. Convinced as he was of the Duke's innocence,
he could at no time have given it his approbation 4
at no stage of the proceedings could such a Resolu-
tion hate received his support ; if Then such a prowl.
duce would not have appeared just to- him ist any pe-
riod of the investigation, it certainly was not to be
expected that he could now give it his suffrage, when
the Puke of York, by voluntarily resigning his COHI-
- had given the most ample atonyment he
could possibly be desired to make by his Honourable
Friend, a greater than he could have expected
.; 'nay
more, a greater than he could have asked. He ob-,
jeCted.more particularly to the word now in the pro-
posed Amendment; If his ideas .were corre&, the
Noble Lord distinctly stated corruption and conni-
vance, proved ; if he (Mr. Perceval) was of that opi-
nion, he should undoubtedly think effectual mea-
sures ought to be taken to guard zgainst his ever be-
ing placed again' at the head of the army. Rut he,
for his part, was naturally of opinion that his Royal
Highness was wholly innocent of corruption dr con-
nivance, but the House had negatived the charges
preferred 'against him. , If he understood a-ri,,ht,
the House, in adopting such a Resolution, would
countenance that which had so recitolly ;seen
missed with their negative. The , Lord had
made some observations on the imririety of plac-
ing one of the Royal Family in a a 4 Pansible office,
from the difficulties which obstructed any proceed-
ing, instituted against one so pear to the throne,
through'the delicacy which' must necessarily be ob-
serVed, while endeavouring to make a person thus
sitUaterfamenable to the laws of his country. Now,
he did think, if there was a time when that assertion
appeared to be unfounded, it was at the present, tiar
he was not aware that in the course or the recent in-
vestigation that any peculiar difficulties had retarded
their prneeedines, and he realty was unable to per-
ceive that they had been withheld by any peculiar
delicacy, from prosecuting their inquiries, as they
otherwise would have done had the Commander in
Chief been of less exalted, rank. He did not see,
after negativing the charges brought forward, how
the House could', consistent with its dignity, exclude
his Royalflighness front the army for ever,:. had not-
the Noble Lord made use of the word c` null," he
(the Chancellor of Exchequer) would have Reit at
a loss to comprehend the drift Of his Atneedment ;
'but it. 'appeared to him, unjust thus to reserve to
themselves the right of again reviving their proceed-
ings against his Royal Highness at any future period.
He, did think the punishMent so disproportionate,
that he thriught every one who' had voted for acquit-
tine ,the Duke of corruption and connivance would,
' agree with him in the propriety of expunging the'
Word ‘c now" from the Amendment;' he therefore
shOuld move as an Amendment on the .Noble Lord's
Amendment on his Hon. Friend's Resulinfon, that
the word " now" be expunged.

' M. HUTCHINSON Stlppollecl ReSOIUtTOII.
Mr. MANNINO felt H his duty to support the Re,
sohnion or the Hon. Gentleman opposite.
Sir CHARLES PRICE,
though he did not believe the
Commander in Chief guilty of corruption or conni-
vance' thought his Conduct highly censurable.
Lord FoLic.sroNa agreed with an Honourable
Member, that something should be done, and there
only did he agree with the Gentleman who had
Spoken on that side of the •House. Thinking, as'he
did,that his Royal Highness was not tree from corrup-
tion, he certainly, was of opinion that he was unit
to hold the command of the army ; and as 116'heid
now resigned it, ought never again be perthitted to
resume it. Much had been said of the little regard
which had been paid to delicacy in thecourse of the;
prOceedings. It 'was trite many Gentlemen had
expressed their undisguised sentiments 00 the con-
thia of .the Duke; many speeches 110 been made
against the Commander in Chief, though he was of
the Royal family; but this circumstance atone was
not stitfleient to overthrovi( the objections which had
been started against placing a Prince:of the Blood
in a responsible Situation. --lad such proCeedings
been instituted against any one else, on such grounds;
as those on which the • late .investigatio had hken
place, the person accused would have been dismiss-
ed. .He concluded, strongly supporting the Noble
Lard's Amendment.

Sir JOHN SEDRIGBT supported the Resolution,
but would vote for the Amendment of the Chancel-
lor of the &chequer rather than the original Amend-
ment.

'Lord TEMPLYt said, the words quoted by the
Chancelhir of the Exchequer from the Duke of
York's Letter,' rendered it impossible for him to
forbear stating tht grounds on which he should give
Us vote. He should vote for the Amendment of
his Noble. Ft iend. He did not think the Chancellor
oldie Exmequer did well nt making the communi-
cation ro quote the. Duke's words, stating, that the
period bad arrived when, hii innocence was made
clear. H e had voted in favour of tne Duke, as he
did not believe his Royal Highness guilty of corny-

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claration' of innocence be mutt
,enter his protest--
In- his opinion, a strong charge 'remained behini;
miscondua wastertainly. to be , charged against ins
Royal Highness; and while he was thus censiirabit,,
he thought such a declaration too strong; it wthil.l
have been batter had his friends advised him to have
adopted a different style. He Imight haVe saicrwith
greater propriety, that he bowed to the wishes of •
the country ;. and though the House of. Commons
had acquitted him of corruption or connivance, he .
wished to manifest his deference to the general sen-
timents -r
of the nation, by laying down the command
of the army. • Promptly as lie (Lord T.) agreed
with the other Honourable Members in opinion,
that his Royal, Highness was, not guilty of, corruption,
and promptly as he gave his vote for acquitting him
of connivance,' yet he could not think' his innocence
sd completely established as to justify the expression
made use of in the letter. He could not agree with
the proposesl Resolution, as 'he thought it in no
instance just. Had the Commander in Chief been
pronounced • guilty, it would not have gone far
eoongli ; hut, brought forward now, in his opinion,
it went much too far. If it was tho'ught impropex
to continue the Duke of York in the situation of
Commtinder in Chief any longer, it was not for Parlia-
ment to endeavour to remove him
,by a side wind,
but to proceed openly, and remove in the face of
day. He could not see the propriety of putting out
the word " now ;" and, in the present state of
things, tO•proceedfarther he thought would be un
necessary.
Mr. DAVIS GIDDY observed,- that the Chancellor
of the Exchequee had said it would be extremely ry
unjtfst towards the Doke to sulfer any degree of lin-
biguity to attach itself to liis charmer, and teat,
therefore, • it behoved them to pronounce 4411
guilty
,or not guilty. He wished the public to be crinvinc-
ed of the propriety of voting as they had done, The
Honourable Gentleman concluded by 611 p pur ileig
-the Amendment of the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer. .
Mr: ADDINGTON supported the original Resolu-
tion, and vindicated the measure proposed by his
Hon. Relation (Mr. Bathurst).
Mr. Booms thought Mrs. Clarke had possessed
an improper influence over his Royal Highness.--•.
He was as superior to popular clamour as any other
Hon. Member, but be rejoiced to see the lower of+
dens-of 'society express their sentiments with free!
done, As the evidence laid before them had reach-
ed the remotest corner or the kingdom, he would'
wish their decisions to be made equally public, as
well as the motives by which•they bad been satiated
•• while forming their decisions.
Mr. THOLINTON censured the conduct of the Duke
of York, as considered in a moral point of view.

'Mr. WHITBREAD thought it right to explain whY
he concurred with the amendment of the Noble ,
Lord. The resolution he could by no means approve.
Which the Honourable Gentleman had brought for"
ward. There were different ways of cOnsideritio
things; but for the known gravity of the Speaker
on all oecasions,.andthe gravity of his manner on
that occasion, he shiatild have been inclined to "psi"
der what had fallen under the cognisance of the!
House as very, ludicrous. The Commander,inChie;
it 'appeared,-had resigned.'—whether he had resign`''_
from a conscious sense of, innocence, or out of (!c:
ference-te• the Minority, it•was not for hitn 1° cid
tide. But he thought the Honourable Gentle'llatrip
opposite (the Chancellor of the Excheqder)
very fairly ,be attacked for abandoning the D°l4e"
seeing he,believed him.innocent lte-vlidbeiteVe
him free from all that'had been imputed to if
be really thought the Duke a valuable servant tit: the
public, it should 'have bven his duty to have advised
his Majesty. riot to, receive the resignation of his
;loyal Highness. He, did not think it well in'the
Gentleman, nutter such circumstances, to de-
sert hint. -For his part,' he thought, as the Deka':
rest4naiton, a rival stop should
puthad se
to 'the h
e pis roceediligs. wasAiitisfied, and Ile
felt assured the Country would be satisfied; Aber
the end they had in view had been accomplished, he
thought it ungenerous to** thus on the Conn:ll3v
der in dhiet, behind. as it were. Had. he sent to
his resignation before the proceedings had closed, LC
Jmight nave been necessary to have conies to a speci"
fic vote ; but, assembled as they were to determine
whether 9r no he should be deprived of the COLI
mend of the army, when it appeared he bad al•
ready resigned, he thought it useless' to proeceli.''"
The country would be satisfied with the resigliAtt°3
pf the Duke of York; but if. they thought it was
.'in contemplation to re-instate blot in his office in 8
month, they would say Parliament has done nothiug•
The Hon. Gentleman spoke of: the inutility of
pongipg the word
," now " some tength. Elee
then commented on, the different opinions whien„'
had existed, and the division of parties Which. boa
taken .place ip the course of the discussion. 11 ever
a question was carried against all portico, it was that'
He hoped it would in some nieasure tend tci
late that party which Lord Chatham had said, exist
ing behind the throne, had 'greater patter than
throne; and which he believed had called into bet
in the present Administration. After a few further'
.
observations' the Honourable Gentleman s'l'verrz
to the t)ndtid of Sir Win. TemPle, who told MI
Charles the Second that his Majesty might 111'1)°"1
fire or ten Mini-teen if he thought proper, but unless
he sele6ted sensible men, the nation would derive °o
benefit from such appointments. > He then spoke f
the disposition manifested by certain Hon. Members
to, read the-Duke of York a leethire on the imino."
rainy of his condu& He thought Princes to 1)12
pitied rather thantenvied-i—the temptations to whiet!
they were, exposed were great, their means,:gf
investigating them comParatively smalls-they seldom
had men about them hardy enough, litre Sir NV.
Temple, to speak the truth ;• their vices are flattered
and their depravity not unfrequently heightened by
those about them. AnothCr circumstance exi4teu,.
which . not %Infrequently, tw feared, wintered then)
less impervious to vice than they (;/..lics.'wi'st! would,
be, that of their being Irequen:iy seeking':' '
an licsnourible union wile re ~11,etIons are invo-
luntarily attracted by the If FOtigtiblens.ofbean-
ty, because the fair one is of British birth. These
circumstances should be considered as offering soLfl
thing in extenuation (*immorality in Princes;--•'WO
ought not to bytti men, and then rigidly punish lbenl
the natural efietts 61 their being galled by their
fetters. He next noileettithe ,conduct of certain
Officers, who; he understood, had torened a doligo
of addressing his Royal, Highness, desiring