The Sun.
London, England, 1809-06-09 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

THURSDAY, JUN,E 8. •
The Friendly Societies, the Blickfriars Bridge
Sunday Toll, the Irish Annuities, and the Irish Bog
Drainage hilts, were severally read'a third time and
passed. •
WHARTON brought up the report of the Com-
mittee on the Irish Audion Duties Bill, which was
• agreed to,' and the'Bill ordered to be read a .third
time to-morrow.
Lord VALENTIA postponed the notice he gave on
Tuesday last, of a motion for the produaion of cer-
tain papers relating to India; till next Session.
Mr. VANSITTART moved that the proceeds and
amount of the Property Tax for the last three years,
ending on the sth of April, 1809, be laid before the
House, as well as an estimate of the duties Of Excise;
up to the same time.
Mr. W. FrTZGERALD gave notice, that he should,
move for •leave to .bring in a Bill, next Se4sion, for
the better educating of the poor in Ireland.
The Consolidating Fund. Bill was read a sceorid
time, and committed for to-morrow.
Mr. DUNDAS brought up the 'Report of the Com-
mittee of Supply.—l'he resolutions were -read a se-
cond time.
Mr. BANKES opposed the grant to Dr. Cartwright,
which was defended-by the. CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHRQURII.' • •
A conversation ensued, in which Lord Milton,the
Attorney-General, and Mr. D. Giddy puticipated ;
after which the resolutions were agreed to.
Mr. WHITBREAD said, he 'held in his 'hand P4,-
tition.from'a Mr. Themas•Humphries ; 'he did not
vouch for the truth oft
fromheallegations contained there-
in, 'though fro the'respet9ability of the' partylie
did not doubt their truth. •

The Petition Was then read ; it set forth that the
Petitioner, Thomas Humphries; was Curate to the
Church of All. Saints, in the parish of Lawley; Der-
by. Though the 'Prebendary of the living did not
receive less than 2,401. or 2,5001. itnu.illy, yet the
stipend of the Curate' did riot 'exceed 401: per ann..
for the performance of the &ilea, an' income • On
s'hi'sh he. could not support that rank to whiCh 'he
was entitled by his education. He therefbrehoped
bailment would take his case into consideration,
and 'afford him bush relief asst Might appear expe-
dient to them togrant.
-After a' few words from Mr.- WHITIMEADI' 'the
Petition was ordered' to lie on the table;
Message tram the Lords announced their Lard'.
ships' assent to the Public Accounts Auditing Bill,
and several other Bills." •
The Prize-Money Bill ivas read a third tithe and
passed.
Lord kL'PEtri gave notice that he would move
to-morro* for Mr Eiskine's instructions with re-
sped to the affair Of the' Chegapeake, and the
relating thereto.
Air. CitaavaY. rose to call the attention of the
,
House to the grant of a house in Downing-street to
the President Of the Board of Controul, worth
4.0'001. -He did not think an (Alicia reside:ice for •
the 'President of the Boardot Controul, lioin arse
circa stance of firs having occasion to transaa busi-
ness with so few itersons, ne&ssary ; hilt if one
'were necess'ary, stirely a house might have been
granted that would haVe answered every
.pnegese,
that could base been purchased at a cheaper rate.
it might be said, that it was not given to him as an,
official residence, but as an augmentation of his sa-
lary, 2601. being an in'adequate reiVard for the per-
formanee of the duties of tlfat Orflee. But this wut;TA
not basl.sfy it given as zth increase of salary, ii
ShOtild have been called by its proper' namel• hut,
ire-contended, Covet titteht had no 'right to augment
his salary when they, pleased. He admitted that
V 4.13 not autficient. Aker some farther eb!
tervatiqnsi the Hon": Gentienien moved; as a fetid'.

latien,
," That it appearsito this.frense, ficrn
ter dated, .4aing, t e,.:,11t, any.'; hat itobet
Dundas, sawn presideet of the, .ficald ,of Ceen.o.et.,
matte applicaticn to the •Lotd:;:of . the Treasure fir-4
house, in :Dowding-street,. • which, in 180 a; co,:: xl
pUblic,i).oool. itnci.lll2t it appears, in consequence,
such application,.l hat house had been granted to
and that he had resided in it horn that time.".
Thelion. 6entletnan- then said,. he woutd,n,teve,
that "It appears the Lords of the Trwsury,iin
Making,such a grant,' did not manifest a proper ff:.-
gardlor the interests of the public, as ;this Knott
are of• opinion no official residence is nece3sary fist
the personholding that sitinition.' . •
Mr.. IL Duni/4 said, ,the beese, in gut:lion 42d
been purchased by the East Jodie Cenipany,.at
dolts arising as.to the legality of the putchAse; it
was afterwards sold, ~when. it. was approprNed to
the residence of the 'Judge, Advocate-General (Sir
Charles Morgan) ; but
the
another .resi.
dence was given .to the JecigeAdvocate,Qeeeral.
lie would not argue on the prnpi;cty of .gixine—an
official residence lathe President of the Bcxiat ref
Cantrell!, but were he to give an opieien, he.
.should certainly-say, one Was as neces3aryfor the
person who held that office, as for the Pay master of
the Forces, the junior Lords of the Treasury, an,t
many others, to: whom. , residences $.....cre
given, He then noticed the grant of a residence
the Chancellor of the Excbcquer ter Ireland, ;After
some farther ,rerna:its, to. chew the legatiy et, the
grant, the Right. Hon. 6entlf.:9lati cuncitided.„-hy
moving the previous question.. „. •
SirJouri NEWPORT said, the provision . for Ilia
Chancellor of the Exchequier for Ireland,. curtsiiod
partly in salary and partly in residence. At. tre
time he was in office, the emolument et :he eltar.-
cellar of the. Exchequer for Ireland having expr-
rienced a diminution. of near five. hundred Towels
annually, he made an application to the then Go-
vernment for some increase of emolument, in eoe.
sequence of which a residence had been assigne;-1;
He trusted it would appear to the Honig, that ha
bad asked ',nothing that Wis .'unreasonable; -Eli he
thought an income of 0,8001. per annum, was. hardy
a sufficient remuneration for the peison holding that
situation.
Mr. WA AD
ITBRE
the Honourable Gen-
tlematv(Mr. Dundas) had stated it 'to be his 'Oat.
Pion that an official residence was necessary for'the
President of the Board of. Controul/bilt heft.el
t:n.l4
favoured the House With the f 6611 on whicli
that opinion was grciunded.. He hid. nor StiewM
why, it was necessar'. The salary aright be tile.small, but an increase Ought trot to be granted,in
the shape of a hotAe.
Lord Haratv PLTry iaid, when in office it' Nt;as
his intention to keep that houie for the ;CLomm'o-
dation of the Secretary- of State-for the ficet.teD.
part ment.

The CI-tit/Wit-Mt of the ExtuPdircat stated
libirse to have been completelf separated fit=ny the
residence of, the. juitge AdvoCate"-G,ieral s‘vtien iii
'came into office. The Noble Lord hard siated, that
it was his, intention to have appropriated; that tiot.:
to the Ste. of'State for the Home Department.
thought it would have been- fonnd
accommodation. He Justified the disposal czf ale
hotfsei as if it was admitted that an inclea:e nt eni6.,
lament was necessary, he could not tee the impro-
priety of angmenting it by the grant of a house,
vided !ha' vatud'.of etch an inei'eaSe dal "not exceed
the bounds of niodetation.
Mr. TIBRNEY waa of opinion, that Whatever cen-
sure was to be imputed, arose froth the niannei•
which the Hon. Geritletnan had, been :allowed ta 'ens.
ler. on the posaession of' 'the 'preniises

Non. •
B.,tiNftifOi said, that great anctOnnecessary pnb.
lic expence was incurred by' the increase of SallitieN
tlirongh the annexation of -otheial reside'nce,
' The Cif ANCELLOR of the-EictiaduEtt explaina.
Mier which, the question' being called Ihr, bnitt
resolutions were n,egativetVviitheuti diviainsi, f'
Mr.. BAYNglii frOin the Royal 'Naval Asyluni,
brought-up 'Papers reiatingt,4l4 he Government tied.
Regttlatioit -Of' the said tatibliihment.—Ordered leo
lie on the table'l v.- -
Mr. 1-lusti'tssdit moved -far: the copy-of a reittr
froth the Secretary of Chelsealiospital to Mr. 110-
riton, as rd4o 'the reports and-estitnate of the•lntil-
Mary in said liaspital..olered..
PLAcES,AND4LtIsiONs.

WitiTnarf..sn, Pursuant to.. notice', fo
.submitto the consideration of theltnuso a further'
limitation, of the peisons in Parliament. It oliiing
cures and' under the Crown, 'A:Noble 'Lard
(the Meinber fur W&ttninAer) had heretofore mad'e
tlie,same notion, and iniesfigation'lr4, been made
aimrdingiy. on thbi.sUbjeet i and the, fight 1-100.
Gentleman Opposite bad giert a generalized rcport
of the said offices and ,sinecures.
Learned Frientliof his,, iu the course:0(11)e I.rebent
had 080.priked the., twine propoiiiiieti *Ton
the third 'report Finance, and the Right HO,
Giltiegtici had it %vial the declaralion, that coos-
noiny itideperidatit of influenctWas the ibing to he
regbrded. The ardendinutic wbliich
,he. (Mr.
bread)` triA then the liolindr to propose, he now.
thought proper to hriti, (ii ward. hi a apecillo shapC
to the effed which he should me.wion. ;He did tt
think any, 9t,'46.11011-wo' vl4 be
,ur4ed against if. fie
. • •
relied upon t Right ROLL PegitonAti 0111 t;%
deference to the 3 Opinion Whik...h.obtairied'abrotO
pe4iting avowed. corruption in. the friouse, And
would hive, tivbeti next' .`)etisiotf the "tirt.tiutr ca.tite
forward, au opportunity of persuading the fit,u,t.,„
if he conitl so, that the Crowd itifittett,:e.wA
not toti great. For his part„ he was bound to
that lie thought it pnch stronger titan it shoal tie,
and if riot checked, that it nay eyentually
s.shelm the other branches of the Constitution. Ail.
Hon. Geritlenian (4r. Bowl on is Poynter ovetii%;
had froni hii tables 'made calcylationg which'wet,t
the length .bf sayrtig; that. the • itlileence of
Crown was 'less at present than it 'lotteer beam—,
From the unobserved infidenCe which b (Me.
Whitbread)
.Was conscious' th;..d.olstett; there
tainijaPpOred to him
.tt necessity for further re-
dueion thoiopedslonect seats, notwithstanding
they WeroleWer clod than fUtmerly
.they had bet:Li.
From cohiklering ttie "extended patronage ririsitt
otu of the
.16ittliy, '13;1V7, 3ct. it was impossible treatto perceive the ilwriasing influence ot the.:Croa,i
For instance, tlic Loeat fratii the tihtpo,,iii or
wherein many iiidiViduiils wodia bL. at.
tacked to that Militence, and Meinbers or that
Itou;se may do influenced through their coristi,uerat