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which he now admitted to be desirable.—(Cries of" Oh':„,
Some of those who now cried " Oh," would have cried itl°
good earliest, and in another tone, if they had been ther'
Oh, and laughter.) It was a vet y amusing thing, ,
killing of 16 and the wounding of 618 ; but he could test
them that if the Right Hon. Baronet's principle s°
adopted, the yeomanry would be obliged to kill thee
people of Manchester again.—(Again, said a Member i°
the gallery, amidst loud laughter.) He could assure th
that the yeomanry, would have to sharpen their swords
kill the people in other plrces than Manchester; but tie,
were altered since the people of Manchester were
for meeting to petition fir Reform.
Mr. COLLEY defended the yeomanry, and remind'
the I-lon. 'Member fur Preston that lie had at one tilt
been a yeoman himself.
Mr. uNT congratulated the Hon. Member on there'.
(livery of his memory, and was happy to hear him expre°
himself so much more clearly than he had been able to d'
the other evening.--(A laugh.) He admitted that 11
been a yeoman, but it was thirty years ago; and he woni,j
odmit more, that the corps of which he was a member di
run away.—(Laughter.)
Sir C. WETHERELL contended that Members rnigftl
be given to Manchester without the spoliation of the 11
perty of others ; but he objected to the qualification
101. householders in such cases, which would in fact, It
a large mantiftcturing- town, he a kind of universal snf
frage. He could not, while he said this, avoid observing'
that he should like much to know something more of 'l4
plan of the Government with respect to the divisions luM
districts, before he gave his ass nt to a proposition whic
looked very like admitting that population was to be take°
;is the principle of representation—a principle never 7e,1,
acted on in this country, and certainly not recognised „ l
the 8.11 He would support his Right Hon. Friend's pre'
posal to give representatives to these great towns, Misers'
ing at the same time, that he thought it might be dal°,
without taking away the franchise of the smaller borouohg,'
and recommending the Government to make the qua
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tleation 201.
Lord ALTHORP said the Hon. and Learned Gentlr•
man had taken objections to the proposition before the
House on several points—Ahe qualification, the division
into districts, and whether it was not possible to give tilt
franchise to these large towns without despoiling tilt
smaller ones. With respect to the first point, this Os'
he apprehended, not the time for discussing it. On tit
second, the question of the districts, he would recommend
him to look into the subsequent clauses of the Bill ; au
with respect to the last, he would merely say that Goverr
ment had found it impossible to give the elective franeld''
that extension they thought necessary, without disfran'
chising the smaller boroughs. This, however, was 001
the main principle of the Bill. They had availed died;
selves of the necessity which existed of finding a means 4,
satisfying the claims of Manchester and Birmingham U,
cut off those boroughs, whose system of corruption or,!.
nomination had in their opinion rendered them unfit
the exercise of the power to send Members to the Leggyl
lature.—(Hear.) Having said thus much he would mere,'
observe, that as the Right Hon. Baronet made no ope'
tion to the proposition for giving Members to hlanchester,
Leeds, and Birmingham, he would put it to him whetil
it might not be expedient to allow that part of the schedUL

to pass, and tike the discussion on the ()tlers to-tnorrovv• ,
Sir R. PEEL said that, after what had occurred 00.
recent occasion, he really felt considerable difficulty
coming to any agreement with the Noble Lord. 10!,
ever, he would make no opposition to give the dee:,
franchise to Manchester, Birmingham, and Leeds, anal',
Guninittee might proceed to-morrow with the *onside°
tion of the metropolitan districts.
Sir R. INGLIS had no objection to see Alanchee'
possessed of the elective franchise, but remonstrated
it: obtaining it by the spoliation of other places, and agsl;
the system pursued to so injurious an extent of weake'ir'
the aristocratic for the purpose of strengthening the
mocratie interest. 11'
After a few words from Sir C. WETHERELL,
motion respecting Manchester and its townships was i"

agrerd to.
On the motion for-granting the elective franchise to,'
minghato and its townships, b
Lord J. RUSSELL moved the ashlition of ant'
township, the name of which, we belie'e, was Mitch"'.
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