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London, England, 1831-07-02 00:00:00

the duties repealed in the Excise amounted to two million.
red seventy-six thousand pounds, an:l the actual defieieue%
vas, notwithstanding th it reducii.,o, no more than nin;
,on•lred and fourteen thousand pounds ; so that in that
ialf-year there was a comparative increlse of about a
nillion.—(Hear.) In the Customs the repealed duti,
anounte:l to 560,0001., and a, tic ',AI deficiency wa-
ittle more than two hundred thousand pounds, there lid&

ie said to 1)3 comparatively an increase uf more than thrGt

unfired thousand pounds:
GOULBCTIIN complaiued that the repeal of the
lute en slates had not been mention ,d in the Bill of la.

-;ession. Slates had a great advantage in the market over
i:es, en account of their superior convenience; arid as.
'),side9, a tax upon tiles was a tax upon labour, he mud-
ecommend the Noble Lord either to repeal the duty or;
:le:, as well as that upon slates, or to leave the duty upor
he latter a' it stood already.
Lord ALTHORP replied that it wao merely a vi,rli.d

mission in the other Bib, which had bince been rectifie‘'.
le had ha,' an interview with gentlenttn connected wit!

he tr,de in Wei, and had told them that ti:e duty

,e taken cif. If he were to act uponthe recommendatioi

4' the Right Hon. Gentleman, and continue the dot\
you slates, it would be necessary to keep up the (sti-
llishments at present tnaintaine I to col:ect the duty upni,
!,),..14, :is both duties are codreted in the ,arne manner.—
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HUME hoped that as the tax upon tiles produced
,nly 50,0001.,. and was a tax up•,n labour, the -Nob!,
ford would consent to repeal it, if the money could at all

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be spared.
itfr,-r a few words from Mr. Alderman Wool) and Mr.
WARBURTON the resolution was agreed to.
Lord ALTIIORP then moved a refedution to the effect
,as nearly as we could hear it) that " The duty upon
ais expored from this country to British possession,
broad, excepting to the Isles of Jersey, Guernsey, Alder-
ney, and Sark, from the Ist of March, 1531, should be
.):;p:q. ton instead of 3s. Id., when carried by British
ces,els ; and Gs. Sd., instead of 12s. 2d., when carried
~y foreign ves,iels."
Mr. GOULIiURN thought, that when the duties were
reduced the dfferenee between the coals carried in British
and foreign vessels should be in the same proportion
as he-
'ote, so as to continue the protection to our own shipping•

Mr. WARBURTON said, that if there were a ease in
which restriction upon trade was called for, the export,
,ion of coals was that case, inasmuch as our supply of coals
..vas limited, and it was a commodity which could nut be
re-produced.
Mr. HERMES was much gratified to hear the Hon.
Gentleman for the first time advoc to the safe and prudent
system of political ecunomy.—(A laugh.)
Mr. ROBINSON said that those gentlemen who were
so much attached to the theory of free trade on some oc-
c isions were willing enough to depart float it on others.
They would support the Ministers in carrying any mea-
sure of free trade, to the ruin of a weak class of our own
people, as was the case with the trade (glove-making) of a
latge part of his constituents. But when any measure was
attempted which might interfere with the trade of a power-
ful class, as, fur instance, the trade in corn, those gentle-
men knew very well that it was defeated hyalarge majority.
Sir H. PARNELL said, that whenever the question of
free trade was brought ois, he, and those gentlemen who
with him were advocates of free trade, would be prepared
to maintrin their principles, and to show that there was
not. a trade in the kingdom to which those principles might
not be applied with advantage. It could be shown that
the glove-trade had derived advantage from those prin-
ciples.—(Hear.)
-Mr. WARBURTON would not limit free trade for the
benefit of individuals, or classes of individuals, to the in-

jury of the public. His view of subjects of that nature
was directly the reverse of any such limitation.
Cu!. SIBTHORPE was happy to be able to state, that
a considerable reaction had taken place on the subject of

flee trade.
Mr. HUME observed, that the question was avhether
they should lay a duty upon coals, and to what amount.
His principle of free trade was, that we should exchange
everything which was of no value to ourselves with
countries requiring such commodities. By laying a duty
upon any article, the quantity exported was necessarily
diminished, and the means of employment for the working
classes prcportionably lessened. He was opposed to laying
any duty upon coals. The object should be to facilitate,
rather than impede, the export of coals.
Lord ALTHORP then rose and made a few observa•
tions, which were inaudible in the gallery.
Mr. GOULBURN complained that the Isle of Man was
subject, d to a greater duty than England, Ireland, or
Scotland.
Lord ALTHORP explained. There was an imperfec-
tion in the wording of the resolution which should be re-
medied, hut certainly as it stood the effect was not as the
Right Hon. Gentleman opposite supposed.
Mr. GOULBURN contended that the resolution did
want amendment.
Mr. HUME asked why the Noble Lord proposed to
deal so hardly with our colonies ? They were in great
distress, and they wanted fuel to boil their sugar, he there-
fore confessed that he did not ti—erstand upon what prin-
ciple that advantage was denied.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY said the duty on coals going to
France and Holland was regulated precisely upon the prin.
ciple for which the Hon. Member for Middlesex contended.
The resolution was then agreed to.
The next resolution was one which went to impose an
additional duty on b:rilla, in respect of the quantity of
soda and mineral alkali which it contained, which duties
to commence from the 28th of May, 1819.
After a few words from Sir GEORGE CLERK, Messrs.
Dicicsort and EWART, the reodution was agreed to.
This was followed by a resolution, imposing an addi_
tional duty upon all natural alkali produced wit'.in limits
subject to the East India Company's Charter, in respect to
the quantity of soda and mineral alkali which it contained;
to commence from August, 1828, all duties subsequent to
the sth of January being drawn back.
Lord ALTHORP then moved that an additional duty
of 1/. 10s. per hundred weight be imposed on all wax
imported.
Mr. DICKSON objected to that duty as injurious to
our manufactures.
After a few words from Mr. P. Toomsoar and Mr.
SADLER, the resolution was agreed to.
Lord ALTHORP, in moving the next, said the remova
of the duty on printed calicoes had been attended with the
most beneficial consequences, the printing trade in Man-
chester being now in a flourishing condition, and it was
certainly not to be denied that the duty on cotton wool was
not so contrary to principle as that upon printed calicoes.
He then moved a resolution, imposing a duty of ss. 10d.
upon all cotton wool imp -rted into this country, excepting
from British possessions abroad—cotton from thence only
to pay 4d
Mr. E. KING complimented the Noble Lord the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer upon the removal of the duty
from printed calicoes.
Mr. GOULBURN asked what was the amount of the
drawbacks on printed cottons?
Lord ALTHORP could not state the exact amount of
the drawbacks; but this he could say, that the drawbacks
this year had exceeded the receipts by 122,000/.
After a few words from Mr. Sadler, Mr. Y. Thompson,
Mr. Ilerries, Mr. Alderman Wood, Mr. Goulburn, and
Mr. Hunt, the resolution was agreed to.
The House then resumed, and the report was ordered to
be received on Monday.