The Sun.
London, England, 1814-11-09 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS,

At two o'clock his Royal Highness the Prince
regent having'arriy-ed ai'the.House cif-Pers, the
Deputy Usher of ill:: Black Rod appeared' at the
.Bat' of
,tinf Comitions, to communicate his; Royal
Highness's C6tinnatt-ds for. the attendmice Of that
'House, to h,-7ar,the Speech from the Throne. The
,Spe-aker, i!nd illrthe
_Members present; attended-
uccordiug!v.
.The tkuse. afterwards, adjourned: till
.thensnal.
hoar, when the Speaker took the Chair, and :14..
ft~rtnedthe IltinSe; that the PetitiOncr, G. IV
Yiontagne, .who had .complained of .tp
un-
daie return at the late election for Grainvound,
and alsO"-tli,e Rev. G. Moore, and,-Edward Dillon,
Ft4(l,• who had petitioned the Hott,,e on, the; same
sohk-et, had not,enterecl into their recogiizanees.
The 'Right Hon. Gentl,eman addcd, that he had
ordered new writs to be is,ued for
.Bdt:AF,t,
.111 tie
room of Sir K. May ; for. Ross, in the room of
Mackenzie, Esq. ; anti for Cardiff, in the roj.nn.
of Lotd :..tewart ; all. deceased..
Several Alvaibi:rs were sworn,` anti ti* their
seitts.

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.•• A Bill '.for the more 1-, .effeetuAlly.preventiw-,- of
.
Clandestine Omt;atrries.was -brought up, and rend
a first iiod second. time.. . .
The. .SPEAvaift t..en addressed the Hut?se as
follovv. : . - .
-
" I have to aOitaint. tlii House, that this- House has been
in the House of Peeri, to hear the Speech'of his Royal High-
rzess ilie. Prince Regent, in the name and on the behalf of his
Mtot.sty; a copy of which, to prevent tu,staii es, .1 will nOw pro-
ceed to read."

The Slieech havine.been read, (as given in our
Report of tht. -

Lord BatnroitT said, that -on rising to move an
Addiess to the Prince Regent, on the occasion of
his most gracious Speech, he hlu -to regret that
the nodertakint; had not fall.ai upon a person
!ena- capable of doing• justice to so impottant a
subject; at the same Cline, he should niakt' his
.ft.bserviitions w tit a full reliaoce on the, known ii-
berality and indulgonce of the House. lie should
Proceed to take notice of the different topics con-
tained in the Speech of bis Royal Highness, and
he trusted the House would
.listen tOhiat at-
tension. With respect to one part of the Speech,
lie was ennviueed that -every
.IgeMber in the
-House would regret, as deCiily as he did, to
his Majesty's I:intent-ea illness still
continnes;• and that after the lapse of another
yeas., there should be such little prospett of his
aecovery. • He should not occupy the time of the
}louse, by taking a retrospect of the great polia
deal atiairs•which WI occur-red since the. coin-
meocement cif the, last Session, except so far as
to contrast the.ptesent . situation of, the. country-
with -that in :which it stood 1•2 utonth,s ago., Lvent•s
hadoccurred since that time which were greater
than thenioat sanguine i:nagitiation coal(' Intec au-
ticipated•., Undountedly at that time aiErirs_had bt,-
011 to Assume a bria,li ter, aspect ; butno doubt conid
be entertained, that Inutki,slind stoOil alon: and
unsupported in the,coutet„,sbe conk oot have Srh7
-slued the giganlic power Of France. Bat, eiu the
Other hand, it ev•s equally: certain, thatwittiont
her pectiniary aid nun herj,idicious counsels, the
Allies coal-if not have sircceeded in their arand cud
Map:Minions career:- Our soecesseS !lave led to
the termination of the insatiate atabijon of duo-
; Lit the praasi.e toe the-t-oudoct ot the
war which has so -inivpily terminated, is 'most
justly due to the Priiice Regent
.and the Al.
lied Sovereigns. Our Cabinet ;:Council of that
thins were most truly conspieaona for their tent-
per, their firunie.ss, and decision; and the House
:mkt. see, avail' the highest .satislaction, that
to suet) temper,- such firmness, and such de-.
cisfoo, are they indelnted for the Present si-
tuation of. the country. if we :take' a view
of our actual coadition at lionni," we if:id our-
selves at peace-With all the world, wits the ex-
ception-of Atiierica. Who coala have anticipated;
' lit this tee' last year, Soh gloriousauccesses, Sacir
unparalleled events They Were indeed beyond
all hunsan.evieetaneyntid• cadet:lntim-1. The next
t:yic in the Speeeli to Which should alhide was
present war 'with America. He'could not but
laineat, as the whole country must lament, the-
:cciiitiuuaiuce of host:lities with the people of, the.
Unit eile...States ; bit it was highly. consoling to•
ki-tow that the Prinee ilegent had assnred the.
, House, that nothing he left unaitempted
winch might brig this contest to a speedy tenni-
; nation. it is N zierica, who .stands as the unprina.
cipled aggressor, in this contest ; but we might
reflect with prude, that our successes hitherto bare
been tinvaried.: He conid not hut congratunt the
Hatise- on these Saccesses ;: for _they proved :bat
navy and army, when united, were capable
of performing -prodijes of valour. Yet when
have they been •so-united—when Lave they found
scope for their bravery and enterprize without
parforming such prodigies ? Their achieveineats
In America were worthy of the 'great
.charaac-
ter : the Americans had now. to. lament the
destruction of. their flotilla in the ,Patuxent.
and
~the defeat of their army, which allowed
a. mere detachinent- of o trops to take
the capital ef. their States. Yet- tho*e brave
troo;-,s had been falsely Calumniveil by 11:latiisnu
and leis adherents, Who find charged them With
the plundering of private property. But- never ,
was a charge snore groundless. Undoubtedly-the
Stores • and =munition -were destroyed ; and ,if
we dal also destroy the public buildings of ‘Vash-
, ington, it . was in
~retsiliatioa for the, atrocities
.tommitted and repeated by them
-in Upper Ca-
nada. He had also to congratulate the -1-loase.,on
the successes of :his Majesty's arms iii the Inure
northera parts of the United States, where they'
have gained an extent of territory to the east of
the Penobscot ; an-acquisition svhich could Ilk fail
to be of considerable importance. Ile could not I
help viewing it in the most favourable light,-as one
more proof to the Americans of the hopelessness,
on their part, of a continuance of the contest.
But while we had ground to rejoice at the. victo-
ries of ftitir arms on every part of the 'American
shores, . our triumph was damped by having to la-
ment the tall of an Officer of the highest talents
and the brightest promise. In the death of this
gallant Commander our country has sustained no
cominoa loss. He felt that no eulogy could do
justice to his distinguished merits. He could say
much more on this affecting topic; but he was
aware that whatever he might add, could but ill
describe the sensatitais of lainiscif, the 'louse, or

~.t1
11 the. Itie
the country. After enumerating 1" f Illy '. s
achievetrients, all the glorious deeds 0.0 it ‘`.36
jesty's arms, in the contest'‘vith Affieri, :of rd
!lot without regret that lie must noti",01,(1)0,
reported disaster on Lake chant-P.10., , hod l'irc,it
been said on the misunderstandieg ".I)l,e'' -isll t`',
railed in that quarter; and he could' 131Y,‘41.,,,,(1‘e.;
cause may not have existed to merit such 1'.1:1,,i 500'1
'Wins. But although we have susi,ir-v, ~,c or G,
14_)ss in this scite of our operatioOs, n'3,'.,, ti: I.4,ii"'
ru.g.nv..er it ? -1'...s ; from the known b,!...,;.1,..0'' ,l'ii,
troops which would be ready to•t"".e: rji.,is o`',ll
next canipaign, three' was tit, docibt ''' ..,,,,;;);,
or; .he should think, in any wind, illjt `,1.,.,it 1',`,,,,
gain the :post signal advantages. , ;&,..,0.0.,‘,1e(
non of our f,nces \S ere, it was rel'-' ' vet ``11,,,
patched as soon as possible from Sit'a;ll,-ive ill t,',..1P
. dn' not, from. unavoidable causes, ''.ll its ‘.i°,,i,
to-give-that 4)-epondertitee ro our (.'t,i'',./ tali
their earlier arrival would not have t"'W.,,i,ki
deice.' His. Royal 11-lightiess had. i"t1:: 'oo,l'l
Ilouse, that the opening of' the Co",:iiii !I`'le4l
lliad been unavoidably rt tar,led: ri. `le .5 i''4o.
lad been fixed for the ineetiti4 0..' „Jilit..
, be I' „off
now. .past ; but even the delay mi:Ph' tioE - 0
live, of ultimate benefit to Etir"i'e', ...,1,09'"1,11
from tii the milted -deliberations 'of t'''.l.tie' sr:
„it mi.
of that body, but trout the 1.e.0w0 ti ,i,.e r •
0 .Fl'
tried talents of the Noble Lor,l "I''' -,i'ilst;"''l•:)efl
of th s'eotititry, takes his share in il'e 'e cite ,0
(Hear, hear, hear !), may we not 1°Iv„-ii111.!;,iil'
eg,i).,::sitt:ltlueltaitle:ipaess
tt(l)iigiti%teheagliai,atiOnigus i'ctc•.-f (re; ill'
lily to an Europe ? His Royal Isirligtell:(1)'5;1141';,'01:46
rected the Estimates for. the enst,i''g. 1 o\l'f
-,. hilt! before the 1-lone. At the sante 111',1.,,,i 0/
were Called upon to make the roosi r44°'•litil'l;:ll
tionsiti the prosecution of tlie cont'"! s'isl of,,tii
rica,. we hive the ii»poitant sat i.:,iacf'°-,ie,e,dge
jog that the revenue and c,;.nitliVECC 6°1." oil' tlji
atakr.e.riltoiiill:llgPt it
'p°e:v.ol:tilli'l.:ciscitltteti'd(nalsrlvii(;ll;‘ilin(:ifri(ci)tc'i),:''''):l!‘ile':::%*l;l)sl?:
this nation hove so di,titiguishe: .:005 l',
but Lady been brought ti) _a f..4.''''‘ii,ll ~t).
and that hostilities with Alt,e'le'i' li''..ll
thine, tilt re could not be a man in Test s:J;;;Ie-
t11(= Co!intry, but must feel the Iliil.ac,ilel.)vo:a
tion.on learning- that the reveitue ii;l,l 0 t'dePr,
of the taxes alone, lit-1S illerejSett
et{, 'ollie'C.:tl;;
,6,.10,0.tt0i: Was not this, indeet.', `1,,,--I,i'' Do-
exultation ? ai adverting- Co ii..3e.,. c',)i.i.l ''''t (e'.,
his !loyal Highness's Speech, Ite 4.;.°L.,i beci:ll
observe, fl'a! the war which los ..°)Eilitt..„-;('
minatcd had this Pectilial charcter' ,ies t)c,00,4r
aff,eted the'interests of ail the ('3it, 131 6'
in it. But this had ever been the 0-o,',.i.e.:'„e,''
(pl 4 Ice of pil wars, and it 1011't ~ tacoe,:oP;
exp:.etc.ll tint the state and ekiitis (~P
Atte,. „Je•
, so ,
This, it wtts ceitain they woni. J., of tileflotil
arses. - art, it 1 rurt-tii.,,, rile ~,t tom,
cceires.c.)l/
tile ,corabineil %Vistl c 1 '3fli'l'ttl'e ii)'oPtilte fi ti,or am ut.,
g';F5...;..„31,!?(1 he tritste(l that alea.' of Pio
1."11)'1"sli:IdlibL sct°lr9evsi.!‘lc. Iciiici°l ftvotititel 41nic):e:::(;i5:!)' ctQlll:l.'"':4.j'j'il:
the public welfare. Ills Lorti'l,ll: itt ‘.l.l;ji%'„)
ttilicltitiet) was a ware..that he had f,the, ~, t''ie 4,1
lie had t inliiieleii.rt?kce):rit'; 31ti:n i'Al•ciis"teal,"7:;,:t:si,ll'Otrtl,,:lilei'vij!',
not merited that !,•rreat atteation wita:•ti, tbv.,,:e,ls
be it heath; but .dcepl v •
..itti;),•,:,sed tt
LI) ~.0 jo .11,e‘
alit} of die .II.ou;?e, be ,t-,),:;,: l'e::;elli :11'''' c
big an Address to the Prioee 't l'n,y i 0 1,, 10:f
Soeech wi 'j j hill -, - - 1 riot ,-' ,ilt, 0,
, l1,.
t•
His Lordship th,ll' read-. the Atlt•Ire jt 11`;'01.,if,i
ty.;::',ll, WAS wl echo of the bpet-cb„reilec, othef.
.expeessing the twist' Wye-1y co°"-.;irt.!1',.5! l'ci
House in .all tit. Siatem-ats owl sc''f'-'. EY' c '„., .. I
1,0 .40
Speech.; assnring his Royal. ill:Ii'l- ,iti" ',Ott,
. tteeply ianiecitecrand drPloreiltne ,(1)1,4;11:4,e:‘i'lil
, his ildaiesty's indisposition, congtl.3,.cos 144,,
ill
illtilici'':ioll),teetiluiri.,lrrsiii,lituoi,lecirtli,clioiLif
tii'''ilektL'.le.rsi,ivt,rtii)tittli.legi b
thel i toi‘sbielaeis elete(:),e'i..'s,
is e%igs,(,:,,,,._'3(11ill:(11)11'°1J5:•."°tollll1,01.1°
his,itoyal Highness on the lw,s sosi ce oal •ltd"/
ChAntplain, lament-in:, the c006'",21.1,:val v'itiltlid
that he
illicillit'yl:itCiat, at (I as airing' I:ii.ls,,.i.i:'t:oo::'befleitil•O if-e‘
ni-, t rely on tOe ear .
that House in every measure '-' des 9)1
gested for the, public welfare.' ~, to o,iol 14f
. i‘lr. GRAHAM said, that on risi°:--, oil 110-,iiiilige
words itt-siipport of the A(l,lroti' i,':, btitie'tocil
first
tithteitlishgoeelilelfeei.teh.tltiferiittti.;itsci;:ol:oo(,:iifet),ll):;;:ioiyti!:;:,.ole/;‘!j/
here 1 ~00.
r:CS,sied his devp con.c.Ner°ll:lielt Ltiuk)tit.:10111.:i.,l11::(.411:0:'
i...is .a.taiestv.s ja. ,-1-- q : 1') , ,ife...(c.,,i
'newel I:,itn•- lit; - ,t, 1., t.
7.l!tovidenct to restore hit» frog) ~.1i013.,`,.;)1e.5,0,1
would now have the proud
...afis:j'',,rilic7ilitirii
that ."the saint,- wiSe and :6111 ,1 ;c 10,,05i10
,Fico ,v 1'.1'1.,,,
1 same undeviating conduct '‘'' ~,,itit.ll-00,C,
ed, and which had been •Oecrse.' cr"°c,oolVii
il a_g:onotta issue: To fli.is efiLl'i•';(c4l:));s: '11:5. .."-Ig"
, l'o'l..bt?.!a exerted .till 111 eY 1'5.,.`1,, tlte,r--4,111°,',
1 sueaess, and had fin:ills' 1)0.'';.-- .1'P"';'"1•11'.1
1. vi eel indebted for a beace, ,y'", t,,ct.,it;°_,"..,,i1 1,,,
hti ti, .r
eT.tallet! our most s:ctigaille c•%f).,;tite'o°,',4 I: V'i
I 1.-ilt!lo..igii these .great e:ffot•ts loc.ll oil, Vi,lll'
. ctii. ' ' '••V '•01' di
il ) fri,‘:,Toi2c, the flon.ws of wil': - , !,,,,vil. pi ,
_quuyter ; vet , i , ..., fli;i '' . piV ril!i':J
I ., , a,t119.180 t tico ~!,. )
isolely cecasioued Lt' the e' •,.,0 (-it '•'.l3 I
881.ii3E;"agCriTSloi • ,--; IP: Alntsl.l',.;,,ii {:e'• 131
he Colild 11c,E butl::, - , trISI '.•
S'i q:' i'
,i;i:,:. 01-" ! Ili ~1)!IV^ 1••• ',
,- 1 ~..
tiu:ao 111111kleti tO ill iliS 1.-',.:,''''''..." L-;,:iill i'l'!n':
s .
peecb-BvOuld 'c.,2(1 )ii rt P':le ;110'1 o÷,r,
• .c-Y..c .rfie, et',-,.
.Sl-"tes- To prove thai- e:1-:1 "so,' ~riliji;
, made t),,- Oils ecv.-try '0 '''''''it. '''''''' :i
'f'
1 ITiiitecrStates'it.'.."va; t'inli ..1,1-ci;:i.s 11,?0%''',t;"...
1. , .
tile du/v..... l. ----, , :•',,, _tn. ',.1:,; r...,.
. ,tiaoit: j_,,,,...ciraLso
.it.. 01. ' ii:s 1-1,,;. ,
tress on the colnitienc....--.• ' , ;,!c.; .c ' tr, 1
fire late' Ridei:- -i3f fer,ll“ .tie ~iii (.
9e. tf.- be
2fnriate vf_trOris ,air,iiost 1 11.-: '''fric,-.1 it, n,
On taking a st,,-;.-ey (~,i- tile Py,..:;.,,r., 1'.,..4.F1,1
°'.l rtle. Cc)nt in en t , the p,“::':m, iol':l,e -irfr
-gless.oo4l nOt but excfie d', -o,,it.
..).•c.,,1
1.09 - lc, ci,' ' ~, ,
• was here, that we iy.-ol t 0 ' 1,,, of :cior-rill:P, I
clainTS Of the different coontirci 001' :i,,,,,' (P... 1
1) finally det.erniinea. ff'l“-' c ccsPlLte.ts,t
. ct oe ,de ' ...i i'
w'". sc' long - protracted to''.. .5 nut, 1, JA;
-_ Ot: greatest dc.,-4-ree of firt.'“l::.„"-ci, °'ll.,c' p'i ti,l
to Cst?.brtish the balance of I'• .re WI ‘,
1 ;f- tO" .e(I I (71'°0
eq;Uta.blC foundation : on" "la„,co'- lie.,iidei,
that House who may have,. phce, ti'dc,i !„
arrangements did iic)t r'eo.i,ethe.",feetll., cl.',;
Avould beg thcan to reflect .1 be Milt l'''
flames of war- could sc3ret,,i)r-oold, 00`
tinguist,ed, the Potentates .05 OW
full justice to all the cl 3"

1

i •
‘.ll
thttt~t'w Ight
their consideration ? but noT
full 0. °suit's as might trade existed have
parties will come forward to
tkeZseilicsiti
time deliberation. As to
111,.,'1)le toot the country, he. must join with
44:4etatiopr.' in congratulating the House on
ill the revenue • an increase which
usider ; • _ •
aule credit very branch of- the
till. • co, . on t
'fleeted with this complicated sys-
the eVents of war, continued
i4.,t'st be ,P.erioci Of 20 years, are reflected on,
I, • g111,,r s • • that we •
it: at , • atistactory to know, .
ee'tY o°t4.‘Y kund resources .to answer every
tildehi °hi' own but have been enablA to
ore, _ ,„
I„gar,eply oral hand to assist those countries
but for such
11,tverit List have shrunk from the contest.
'rar
-4 viog -ci .
3( ne rcumstance of -a war like the
' 14tratle al-ce'sarily have had a serious
.effect on
ittes. inanufactures and occasioned dis-
tki,htse laud losses. in all our establishments ;
: at length all subsided, and those
iptklerce 11'1 which have heretofore. made our
ilitZre.tde envy and admiration of mankind, •.
,sestablislied on their impregnable bases.
tiNtio."o trouble the House with '11(11 ns, but conclude by cordially
any further
‘tirN seconding
k o!stion being put, apause for some
IN.‘l/41.1, rig taken place—
tt,,ll4,li2READ rose.—As no other Member
tt;iiet °Posed to offer any comments on the
rhlt. °f tli • N •
oble Lord and 1-I tin . Gentleman,
4t4 riSSa
eCe • •
ittsa rY. to offer a few observations on
qitt'likt' itself, Which they were. called upon to
tielii,'Previous to that, to express his surprise,
16i°stlti
the Prince Regent's Speech, nor in
it 4 ieteb 14t had fallen horn Ministers, or from
~,,Iclit„etts 0 the Privy- Council, had it been
Nl`itlii.'o" why it was desirable that Parliament
f- ° early. They were told- that the
th,t,' tohe country xvere in a flourishing situ-
r't considerable military exertions. must
Ntlthe and that tht re were large arrears.
.1" f • I they must pro-
ar, For Orbwat the means for- carrying on• the war
4, I,
pro-
1/41t jj
and for meeting'. the arrears of
,I°Y i\Jvalo'.. in „Europe, were to be prnYided
yhdliient, could not have been. un-
're to ht Hon. Gentleman
le'd of ..1e
Tre, ituances, and to .the First• Lord •
I,„'"EY.; and he (Mr. IVllitbrea44 for.
t'lllof
%1 ti!' of opiuion, that in the Fontein-,
i-se things an ample provision hart
1 10il1 i
1" last Session of Parliament; that
l -%c,t
,1 tilts thr a period far beyond that at•
,tii4",)(liec;,7,ere now again called together. He
that the Speech would have con-
. ti„"tt Paradp stating
gr in what respect the •
ki°l-is of the Right Honoura.b. le
tat,' it' the ucen disappoiated. It wa..s
ode 4,f c,°"vse of the summer they had
hY the °hinders in finance having been
...tt aticeiior of the -Exchequer;
T'e'as , 0
0.4 t ill anticipation of a new
14L! been considerably depressed,
HOnourable Gentleman thought
call t• t 6. declare it was not his inten-
tllY 'r(hie ; b these things had not. sot-
sit
at th• the cause of their being called.
R. is ti
rithe He-now- deSired to receive
. h,%;
11 Gentleman himself, from. his
'4l'4 flts or •
,teli,; til; • ancient colleagues, .some expla-.
"'la "et {object. If the Chancellor of the
beeii di-appointed in his expecta-
L4;eitt-PRetil.hts been
would be confessed ;
led t vents, the real cause of their be 7
rrinZetber at this time cyotild be made.
ktlitQlited Ati,elY were now brought back by the
iloc4,(ress to consider of what -he would
lent question ou• the subject of the
o,:v ar, to whether. America hail
t`t~teol"Li an unprovoked aggressor.—
'ilttettle,, go back to weary the House with
I,ilit'tileesb°l- 41 he had felt with respect to the
flt, etw
which,
een the two countries, with liiels,
„.
'l.4l,reti, he lra-i
often fatigued them, but this
it his opinion on the origin of- the
le
remailled unchanged. His opinion.
wasthe tact, that he
ittr b alixious to state iEN e
.regarded as one of those who CCI11.•
it" ill
late aloue to 'blame), that the war
Iv, the
Fete ' weak councils- of -this court-
sitiatileY carne to the question, ''What
"
on n which we now stand with
Ittii.l),it 'hi: i
American War-?" be mist be ex-
t,i(ih, fore ritenltl not there 'agree with the Ad-
-4 House. The Noble, ord (Lord
„ 1)4(
1 , upon himself-to assure them
ttt`"4t tuad beau left undoOe .by- Govern-
to u1(1 he. done by them to bring the
ititie_h;lt'wea.. Pacific euneltwon.• He wished.to
'e now the differences between the
tau. les L„,,
-e3Of --ry were they still fighting ?•—•
.ttt ara
I:, the rupture, as set forth in the
in of tsar, were well known ; but
trt-
qtbliQi tole_ s. s. e. t forth in that declaration those
tti Inities were now confirmed ? Were
ttti 'title 0.
'lv'. this I was England now at war (and
Ailio question might be answered) for a
aftl,4rY ? 117.1 s flusher object, or were the
'4l„ tt., war, .
t impressment of seamen,"
ti,
ri I t If for the last
t •ea
.g s .
N 0 be
it desired to know if. these were at
e99cd in the Congress ; and if
((let, (1 den it was the intention of Minis-
( ttili.Powelys America what . was conceded to
l'ttt•dt3' nt. The Noble Lord, to spew the
:„411 t to the was unprovoked, had re-
klr. l'Ole of the correspondence which
ttittes..l,"ace between the two Governments.
`ect. 1144
care-I")deutilat part of it particularly,
heeit •
IL 14d on by a.Right lion•Geht•
.I,!s I,,G,e)e whom he was astonished not to
I. l'tlit te,,bure, as lie had often before told
Itt , 7"11. Gentleman to his face;.any
(-video ,
• lei, of ti • cc of a pacific disposition on
te
eto
14)1,111 11:1 the He repeated it,:at the
:Iq:i , tek • • 't tonourable Gentleman' -to
,11 ittl•'s,' be wci-s astonished, Nothing,.
lior, poi. e thought incredible in life—
. 4 'hit) hies. But had Ile not had de-
ki• 'il, 'Of
,044 t 'e fact, he could Out have be-
ott
sta. the
s.otinent of that Right Hon. Gentle-
fitvirl,g etheill,lacti.(ll he now filled, with-
t(Nor Arig , latnatt tinder weigh, the blue
,` her head,with the Erigligh Arnbas-
Ltit sit lye could hardly have thought it
eircunietance would -have kepi

him from attending that House when his own ap-.'
pointment was likely. to be discussed ? He must
acknowledge that' lie had made the amende hOnnr-
able to his rorraer, colleagues-, since he had ac-
cepted a situation under the very men with whom
he would not condescend to advise. If he ad-
mired the honourable amende, made by his Ex-
cellency the Ambassador to the Court of Lisbon,
equally did lie admire the selection of him for that
situation which, he was going ' to fill.—Had he,
been chosen to go to the 'Congress at Ghent, he
%vas sure he (Mr. Whitbread) should not. have ap-
proved of his appointment but to pitch upon
him to go to "Portugal, where, as there was no-
thing to be done, it Was prOhable he could not do
harm,. was one of the happiest selections that could
be made. Why an AMbasSador should at all be ap-
pointed to the Court of Lisbon he could not tell.
But hr the expence which this appointment threw
on the country, be would not begrudge the Right
Hon. Gent.all the honour Of the situation he had oh-
tained, nor the stipend attached,to it, nor any of the
distinctions to which it might lead, eventhoogh the
red ribbon (as it had been rumoured would be the
case) should, to crown all, be conferred upon
him, on the arrival of the Princenegent froni tht
Brains. He could not but feel some surprize
that the Right Hon. Gentleman should have left
all his favourite questions to their 'fate. .Time
Hon." Gentleman then,joined in -the tribute to the
memory of Gen. Ross and Colonel Drummond, '
anti said,
,if the loss of such men was deeply felt
by those who, dike the Mover and SeCoader of
the AddresS,. thought the war hat) been well con-
ducted, how much more mast it be deplored by
those whowere of opinion it had not been carried
on well-who thought the' cotidact of the Admi-
nistration, and particularly of the Naval Admi-
nistration of. the couotry,, had, been such "as to
Make enquiry indispenaible. with the whole
commercial interest of the country, would ai:raign
the condnct of the Navy Board during the. Am-
erican war. Could any Member of the
.Admiralty
in -
then m the }loupe idfortn them, hoW it happened
that, with innamerable.iie,ndaots of all descrip-.,
dons at their disposal, the ,British flag was lonnq
to affOrd no protection to- the British trade ?
That shoals of privateers visited every sea, took
posseSsion of every merchant ship, and were
still left onchastised? He was now todook,to what.
had been done on,the Lakes. not Ministers
been guilty of the folly--aof the ChildiOt folly. of
sending out frigates in frames to America, there
to he conveyed up the rapids of the river, to con-
tend with the Americans. for superiority on the
Lakes ? This was, part of their wise system ; but
things still more graye were to be urged against
them. Their negligence bad left a gallant. Officer
destitute of the means of successful resistance. He
had made a desperate effort to extricate himself from
the situation in which he unfortommately found him-
self. The result was unfortunate ; buta Court Mar-
tial had determined the attempt was justifiable,
though his means were not such as to give it suc-
cess. The even which led to this Court _Martial,
occurred through Captain Barclay not receiving
those succours he ought to have been supplied
with from Sir James Yeo, or from the Admiralty.
The Court-Martialwa,s held in February last, and
he now asked, if any steps had been taken for
calling Sir James Yeo to a Court-Martial, for not
.supplying Captain Barclay with. the means he re-
quired successfully to contend with the enemy ?
If this bad not been
.done, be should be glad to
know if the Admiralty did not tacitly acknow-
ledge the blame to,rest with,theM ? It was desir-
able that the occurrences on the Lakes should
be strictly inquired into. Lately a variety of
complaints bad ben exhibited against a .gallant
Officer, Sir George Prevost, who was said to be
Coining borne. He would advise those who seem-.
ed to expect miracles, because , miracles had in
some instances interposed for. us-, not to look.
for them as matters of course, and he hoped they
would well consider, before they condemned Sir,
G. Prevost, if it were not possible that he, like
Captain Barclay, had done all that could be done
with the means entrusted to
.his care. The;Nohle
Lord had congratulated the House on the great
acquisition of glory, of safety, and of territory
gained by our successes in the .Penobscot. He,
for his part, did not see how these could make
Canada more secure, or promise the near ap-
proach of peace ; it was said, by giving us a new
boundary. This, far from hastening the arrival
of peace, would be the watch-word for resis-
tance, and war throughout the United States;
and prolong the contest to an indefinite period.
It bad been said the business of Washington
avutild make a great impression on other parts
of the United States. He. apprehended it was
meant an impression favourable to the termination
of hostilities. He could not but lament that Ge-
neral Ross had been obliged to be concerned in a
measure so discordant with that conduct which had
called forth unmingled admiration at the close of
the European contest—so abhorrent; so incon-
sistent with the habits of a free and generous
people--7so to be hated and detestetl, condemned
and abjured. What had been the effect of thiS
operation ? To conciliate to time Government
those before adverse it—to put in-motion the militias
of States who before were not suffered to march ; to
give a new weapon into the bands of Mr. Madison,
and to do away time report that had got abroad, that
several of the States were likely to he severed
from the Union, ;by the ,convulsions arising from
the war. Of their private. divisions we now hear
no more ; all were united. to revenge this great
wrong. In burning Washington, we. bad acted
woise than the Goths when they:were before the
walls of Rome. They yielded. to the reasoning of
Belisarius, who urged, :that to deSfroy the public
works of that city would be but to raise a mono-
went to the folly of their destroyers. If the Awe,
ricans had wantonly destroyed a village in Canada,
was retaliation necessary when the. Act was dis-
avowed by. the American cyvernment ? Iu a late
dispatch from Mr. Monroe, :it would be seen this
was done ; and it, appeared that an American
Officer, who had encouraged the outrage referred
to, bad been dismissed in disgrace, even without
the form.of a trial. But if this had not.been thine,
was. it worthy a nation like Engiand,in a spirit of
.retaliation to destroy. the, rising splendour of an
infant capital ; to, burn the capitol..in which the.
Senate held their sittings, to turn their arms
:against the Inonurnents,of art there established,
and to descend to pillage private property ? Yet

these affairs. there, was a remarkable mystery with
respect to the conduct of Sir Alexander Cochrane.
Ought we, he asked, to fight for vengeance ? No ;
ipit, to, finish the war. Would the burning of
Washington, the stealing the President's furni-
ture, or taking the tobacco and merchandise •
of. the unfortunate 'people, tend to hush the
war ? No.; they could not have this effect ; and
therefore such conduct was unjustifiable. He did
not know that it would be considered proper at this
period to animadvert on the negociations now going
on; but he was not sorry to have an opportunity of
saving in his place, what had occurred to him on
subjects which were open to the observation of
all. When the Treaty of Paris was 'concluded,
be thought the conduct of the Noble Lord (Lord.
Castlereagh), except in one instance, deserved the
approbation of Parliament. He, however, could
not shut his eyes to facts whiCh came out before
that Noble Lord set out far Vienna, and before
theclose of the last Session, which seemed total-
ly at variance with the arrangements proSpectiVely
looked to as the result of the CongresS now Sit;;
Plug. He had lamented, the probable fate of
the Little Republic Of ;Genoa, and the conduct
of Austria in
,Italy, in attaching totersell the
Italian' States, and declaring the System then
acting, upon should be lasting. He' lamen'ted
that Royal Families, now restored to their ancient
inheritances, had not learnt in adversity to treat
the countries over which they presided as the pro-
perty of the subjects rather than of the Sovereign.
He could not but wonder that men; however
cramped their ideas, byedieation, superstition,
ignorance, should not.lrave been taught by mis-
fortune that the interests of their people were
their own. He feared few of the restored *Mo-
narchs had received this salutary lesson in the
manner. he .could wish, and that some-of them, on
returniug to power, had recourse to every 'means.
they - could.think of; •in order to .put out of
men's heads all idea of their having'a right to be
free. This feeling had manifeSted itself 'in
the rude and unfeeling reply which had been
given to certain patriots, whit had. pray-
ed that their little republic might be spared 5.
" that republics were no longer in:fashion." If
such a spirit were abroad, and he feared it was,`
and in one quarter of the Continent it was knoWn
to be so, it was to be feared the COnSequence'
would be the loss of liberty, which was the worst of
all consequences, or a new s truggle for freedom. The
people, it was to be apprehended, would be com-
pelled to ;submit to slavery, and make • a • new
effort to expel those who have so misconduct-
ed themselves, When he.heard that great part 'of
Saxony was to be given-to Prussia, and that Saxony
was to be,- no longer a Power in Europe.,
felt great: .sorrow, and thought • not of the
King, for his fate was but a secondary conside-
ration, but the people were unjustly dealt by.—
The King of Saxony had not the same -opportu-
nity for changing .as .others 'had.- Boonaparte had
possession not only of his country but of his per-
son ; and thus circumstanced, he remained with
him till the .batile of Leipsic. For this, was
Saxony to be divided among the Coalesed Powers ?
Such, a division would be as unprincipled An act
as was that of the partition of Poland. With re-
spect to the last mentioned country, it was known •
that a general feeling had got abroad in the world,
in favour seeing the kingdom of Poland resror-
.The Emper6r of RusSia, who might be sup-
posed most interested in opposing this, was un-
derstooi to be willing 'to consent to it; if the
other Monarchs of Europe would abstain froth
seeking further • aggrandizement. Monarchs
were often very fond of being magnanimous at
the expence of others ;• Alexander NV
lingto be so at his own cost, if Austria•would
sist front- her attempts on Italy, if Prussia does
not seek to extend her ride in Germany; On the
part of •the Prince Regent, an act had transpired
from which he thought evil might be augured,
and for doing which, if there was any one:thing
in the Prince's conduct, since he assumed thereins
of Government, which more than another would 1
: hurt the King his father, could he be .made
quainted with it, was that one thing: Ws Majesty
had been made King of Hanover.. -This, he be-
lieved, bad been done by an Order in'Council. In
the new state of things on the Continent, the Prince,
instead of being advised to say, " let us preserVe
the titles and distinctions anciently attached to our
terriories," had • said, on perceiving -the other
Electors of Germany were made Kings—" Since
they put on regal state here, ill dress up my' fa-
ther like them." - It seemed there 'was to be an
arondisseinent of territory
.for Hanover, as 'it was
called, the consequence of which- would be, Ha-•
nover would more than ever be likely to involve
us in wars, -by bringing us in, contact with inte-
rests to which we could not be obnoxious before.
The Republic of Genoa, it was now underStOod,
was to be extinguiShed. The measure was one of
, which
.he could never approve. There was a
time when the Allies were glad to seek ltssistanee
from every quarter—when they conceived it - of
importance to bring. Bernadotte; and with him
Sweden, into titefr views ; not only did they
treat with Bernadotte,- but with one more
nearly connected with Btionaparte, a Prince whose
kingdom is in the south of Italy. His assistance
was .solicited, and he was credibly informed (and
he believed it),that a sortof engagement had been
made with hint, which if it were broken would be
a foul blot on our national faith. Reports had been
abroad that his removal was contemplated. • He had
heard, that since he became the Sovereign ofNaples,
there had been a degree of order and good govern-
ment introduced,
,and a proscription Of murder
which had gained him the hearts of the,Neapoli-
tans, and caused a striking distinetiori to appear
between ;his subjects and those of Prince Ferdi-
nand. In time threatened progress of the SoVe
it --
reigns of Europe to darkness, might happen
that thiS Prince would becitme obnoxious to some
• of them. He hoped, however, there would be
no alteration there; that Genoa and Saiony
would be saved, and Poland "restored. Mo 7
narchs • cannot be • ieagnanimous by halves.—
Now turning to another subject, Which had,'in no
small degree, caused those arrears for which they-
were called upon to proVide, he could not bits
:lament the treasure which had been wast,ed.,.the
:blood which had been lavishly shed in the Penin-
sula, and whiCh, though fruitful of glory, had
not given us.that predominance
.which we bad a
,right to expect.. He. grieved to.fiati Ferdinand

had unhappily. learned nothing from his ex-
perience. Nob Ody could 'witness • the scenes
passing in Spain,' Without wishing -an end out
to those evils' Which.- the inhumanity of the
Sovereign
.inflicted do On' a whole country.
desired to • ask if ' money had not been advaneelf
froni.thisicountry to'sipport Verdiriand in
des-
potism, and the inquisition ? "fa' travel on The
Continent, and see the Inqiiisitionre-established; '
the Order of the' '.leSiiitesirest'ored, and to mark
the various 'schen4s. df .ag.giandisement
have alreadybegon'to ilevelOpetheniselves, it 'w'a's
difficult' to repress a fearlhat the result -of; the
Congress at Vienna will he less 'SaliSfactor'y than
we Once expected: These subjects he should' not •
have called the • attention of the- HOnse 'tollow,
had-they not been force:l'6lton hitt by the Address •
which hehad been called anon 'ro'.Vote ; but so
called upon, be could hilt suiVer' (he first day of the
Session to go over off ,t itig his;-opinion on
the various- topics enibraced in the Speedlt. The
Hon. Gentleman concluded wit a • repfObitt ing the -
tonduct'of Ferllinalid*.Vll; to the larty 'of the
Cortes, and therumoured 'sdrrender of two Spa-'
niards by the 'Governiir- of Gibraltar: He also
expressed' a hope'that the Slave Trade Would'he
eitingoished by' the' Congres's at Vienna:
The' Ciumetm.on- of the 14.."%e'ritotfett would
shortly go OVer apart of the topics upon Which
the Hon. Gentlenttinhad*toneked. He would.not
follow hiM through the extensive field. %whichhe
had:trod;as lie had'hn rod ueed matt'ef-s- into the' dis;
eussion which-did not' belong to"the prel•ientsub-
jeer. There were Many topics on which 'allem-
her of Parliament cOnld freely offer his' ientintCliti
on which ht,' in his Official situation; 'Could not
with propriety enlhrge. The chief point on which
he 'thought himself bound to gi-e alt explanation'
Was on'e which related to his' department. It-was -
asked Whether any pecuniary-assistance had been.
given to the King of Spain to 'assist •hitn'ine.
putting down the*. Cortes and restoring the
Inquisition'? He was able most positively to
state that no pecuniary aid had been given to
Spain beyond the amount of the subsidy granted
with the consent of Parliament for her co-opera-
tion in the war. Had any advance breii uide,lt
would have been on the account Of Government',
which would have been responsible. • With' 12-
spett to the Spanish individuals who were said to
have been giVen lip by the Officer commanding at
Gibraltar; 'he had 'been *hitherto unacquainted
with the fact ; but an enquiryThtight be 'made
into the subject in the course Of a Very feW days.
He would not' now revert to the past, and eater
into the causes'of the American war. The HotiSe
was not called upon by'the Regent's Speech to do
this. It was only ,requeSted to renew what, it
'had already repeatedly done'; *What had been
sanctioned 'by large majority after examiiiing
the, palters and documents relative to the question,
acid -what had been etnbodied in the 'Decla-
ration issued- by Guverinnent The flOn.'Gen-
Oman had stated that onr-cnodnet at WLishitig-
ton; in 'destroying, the public building's, would
have been a disgrace to the 'Goths and the Vandals.
It was alWays painful to defend riteaitires earrNd
:beyond the Usual severity of military operations,
and it wa's 0111 snore painful for Officers to exe-
cute them; 'but'in the present case; their neces-
sify-eCitild be Made out. if we found among
the American OfficerS .a
spirit of revenge anal fury
that could only be repressed by retaliatio%l,.
then our Col-atm Would lye justified in the eyes
Of God and man. 'The HoliOnrable Gentle..
than' had attempted 'to show, that the acts
for whiCh we had retaliated bad been- titian.-
therised, and rePrOved by the AineriC:in Coin -
xianderS theinselveS. • He Would, prove the 'con-
trary -by th'e'liernsal of an Official Note frotn
American Comnatinter. 'He then reatli 018liatcli
from General 'M'Clure, in which he stated, that
findin4.,,r himself' in clanger of an. attack front 'thq
British, who were advancingtowards'Fort Geitege',.
he 'had held a Countil of War,,''and' in ecee;e-
quence of the resolutions adopted, hair-given or--.
deri foi..the evacuation of the Fort; 'the seizur'i.
of all arms' and =Munition, -w111.611 't'ere to be
• bronglit aWay, 'antl•iii&desrUction the place.
Tlie* dispatch added, " at thisinomenfthe Village
Of NeWark is in flames, and the 'inhabitant's aee,
riot to be spared. This step" lI.iS not been taken
without eohnsel, but in Confo'tniiiv to the viev.'s
Wridch yOneEKcellency yansinitted to me in tor 7
frier conimunica.tio,:s:" Three dayS. after, another
American'Order 'direeted the Commander of .1
taehmenCio fire Vvith 'red lint "shOt on QICCITs.
town, and to give no quarter fo theiahabitants;
Stating, at the same time, that the enemy (the
British) were exasperated, and burning to invade
the.Ameiican territory in their tura. This akar:
Was sufficient to she%v, that aware of the atti'ocity
of their conduct, the AmeriCans. were also soil-
vineed of the justice of retaliation on Our 'Wirt.
The people who' did not perish amidst the rune:t
of kheir habitations,were at least driven out in the
most. inclement season, and lost all their, private
property.' It was, however, chiefly of the de-
struction of the'public buildings, that the Hon.
Gentleman complained, although • the loss of
what shelters- and supports life must have been
still more painful,twthe sufferers.. But even on
that :ground, what
.-had-. been the -conduct
of the Americans?. When in the month of. May,
1813, they were in possession -of York, the capi-
tal of Upper :Canada, this was; their proceeding-.
-After carrying Off, by their•own account,' all' the
arms, ammunition, :and property, Of *all kinds
which they could remove, they burnt all the pub-
lic buildings, and the troops .re-embarked. This
was a case fully in point.--.--[llere Mr.' Whitbread
said, that the nature of the property destroyed
Was very inferior.]--It might be so ; the value
might be less considerable, but that was nut the
fault of the enemy, who, had they' gained pos-
session of more important objects', would not have
sheaved them more mercy. Thecase, he therefore
conceived, was entirely in point. If another ex-
ample* was wanting of the wanton and, desolat-
ing spirit of the American Commanders,' it was
in his power to lay it before the House. He con-
ceived no body of people more entitled to protec-
tion, and more deserving to be freed'froM the ca-
-1 lamities of war than the Settlements of Mora-;
Vial) Brethren ; none had, less to do With the con-
tentions of States, or were more inottensive and
peaceable; and yet the tecounts- received from
those established in those parts of atiada which.
bad felt tilt: fury of Americau. vengeance, state 4,.