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London, England, 1813-06-03 00:00:00

HOUSE, OF COMMONS.

WEDN
;P.SD,Y, JUNE 2.
The Fire Arms Bill *us read a third time and
passed.
CALCRAPT, after some ,remarks on the
Kent Jail Bill,
.in the course of which he com-
plained mach of the great expense which, accord-,
ing to, the present plan would be thrown on the
county, Moved that the minutes taken betore the
Committee on the Bill should be laid before the
House.
Mr. JOHN SMITH seconded the motion.
A long discussion ensued, in which Sir W.Geary,-
Sir E. Brydges, Mr. Western, Mr. Marryart, Mr.
W,Wynne, Sir E.Knatchboll, Mr, Lascelles, Mr,
Lushington, Mr. P. Carew, and Mr. Se rjeant Best,
participated ; after which the House divided, when,
the numbers were—
For the production of the Minutes
Against it et
Majority agNinst the motion _7
The further consideration of the report of the
Helston Election Committee. MO of the Ordnance
Estimates, were postponed to Wednesday
se a-
night.

PETITION FROM MANCHESTER.
Lord COCHEANi 'presented a Petition signed by
certain inhabitants of Manchester, complaining of
having been unjustly confined, being acsnseti of
administering unlawful oaths, when they Met. ti,)
petition for Parliamentary Retorm: The. Petition
set forth the various glievances to which they 114
been subjected, and the injuries their characters
had sustained by the statements which had ap-
peared on the subject in the newspaprs. The
conclusion of it prayed the House to afford them
redress for the wrongs they had suffered, attcl tt>
take such menstdes as would effectually guard
against a reivAition of them. .
_ _

On the motion " That this Petition do lie up-
on the table,"
• Mr. %Ignitor wished the Noble Lord bud
stattni, before he made his motion, what redress he
was of opinion, could be afforded by Parlitittrit.
He (Mr. Bathurst) understood that the petithiners
had been licensed of administering unlawful oaths,
but acquitted, and that they felt what had pus,ed
to be injurious to their characters. He did not
know with what view Parliament could be justly'.
called upon -to give relief is.such a case. If they
had been unjustly accused, the law was open :ro
them to bring theiractions againtt those by-whoin
they were prosecuted, and if .the Newspapers had
stated their case unfairly, they could be proceeded
against for a libel. He did not object to the 1.-iii-
guage of the Petition (nothing'could be morepro-
petty expressed,) hat he thought it would've inex-
pedien! to receive this Petition, as it might-he un-
derstood to hold out to all the country an
that-l'arliament,WOnia,re,tiEl2sS to whiCh tho
law of the land offered a remedy lithe law Were
found incompetent to afford redres9 for indiei.
duals so situated, it would.then bo for Parliactent
to step for Ward ; but he thought it was not for
them to step forward in the first instance, to put
themselves in the place of the Courts of Laiv.
Mr. WHITBREAD said, that there as mud'
goon sense in the speech of the Right
tleruan ; but as many petitions presented to the
House were:suffered to lie on the table, though
they bad no immediate pri.spect of affording the
Petitioners redress; .he hoped the present petition
would not consult its dignity, by refusing to let
this petition lie on their table. Their refusal, if
not unjust, would appear harsh and unkind, and
be thought the House shoidd encourage corn
plaints of thii nature, that if they could nut at:
ford redress, those who were aggrieved might at
least know there watts one place where their sor-
rows could be heard, and their complaints de-
posited.

- Mr. W. `V2 NNE, though against that house
being applied to in cases where the law offered a
remedy, wished this Pet'tion to be received. That
complained'of had occurred in consequence of the
parties having met to petition Parliament, and
therefore, tending as it did to obstruct the right
of petitioning, it might be considered as interfer-
ing with the privileges ot, the House.
Mr, J3ATifortsT otr,eryed, the present was not
like a geperal obstruction to the right of peti-
tioning, as in this particular a remedy was Offered
by the law, which Might not be afforded in ano-
ther. He would not, hOwe'Ver, provoke disco-
sion by pressing his opposition to the Petition's
being laid.on the table.

Mr. PON SONBY said, the allegations contained in
the Petition NVould justify an inquiry being set on
foot. The House ought not to refuse to receive
such,a Petition.

Mr, Serjeant BEST was anxious that it should
not go forth to *.he world, that a man without
money could in no case obtain redrc,s by law. lie
denied this to be the fact; and thought the flow in
ought to be cautious how they entet-t,tittei peti-
tions, containing allegations, which they itzld
.means of ascertaining fa !.)e COrrect.
lie till tilt titUie,
The petition was ordered to
A Message from the
Lordships concurrence in the
several other Bills.
Mr. Rost: obtained leave to bring in :tßill fur 14
s‘r,ee,legi,e,tionladitti
tnlrgriaitesh eio.entardattailleatitorts(tit:llaellsdei :oerna.setidietd:rti
ociatntbidael lit;ttbn,atef
the Metropolis. He afterwards brought it in,
The Irish Rents was second time
and printed.t.tlunsitted for that day three weeks. :.*
Mr. WESTERN again postponed his motion on
the subject of the Innkeepers' Petitions, from tO,

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