The Sun.
London, England, 1813-02-25 00:00:00

MIRCELLANEMJ.4.

'rhe Marquis of Si'A FrOR preV ed a Petition
from the Merchants, Nanuf acturers,,"ind others,
of the torough of Walsal, in Staffordshire,
against the, continuance of the :East India Corn-
patv's MOnutioly ; whlch was ordered to lie ou
the table. •

The Local Tokens and Leith Harbour Bills
were brought
.up from the (.;ummons by Sir
William. Curtis and others, and severally read a
first time.

A few Private Bills were also brought up by the
Hon. Baronet and Mr. Chute, which weru also
read a first time.
On the motion of Lord REPtpALE the farther
consideration of the 'lrish Appeal Cause, " Gore
v. Staekpoole," was deferred till to-morrow.'
The Lam) Cuatigozw.on notified his intention-to
move their Lordships to-morrow to take tut*
their final consideration the Appeal Cause of
the Eat India Company v. Wiglitwick.—A.d-
journed.

HOUSE OF COMMON'S,

WB37NP.SI)Ar; lq:t. 24.
AN"VI-C.VVIIOI.tO MiTrlONt.z,

The. HoUse, after Meeting, was engaged for
severhi hours in receiving Petitions- Against. the
Catholic Claims, of which 'we shall enumerate
only those upon which. discussions arose,.•and
such us we ascertained to be presented from -very
numerous, or peculiarly situated bodies. The
nature of great many it was impossible to
make. out.

Colonel )3iiowatt presented a Petition from tile
Protestants of the County tit Tipperary, signed by
an immense nomber of the most respectable, of this
class of persons, and, praying that their rights
might be protected.
General AterllEW rose, and warmly protected
against receiving this petition, which he affirmed
did not express the sense of the country of which t
he had the honour to be one of the Representa-
tives.. He complained of a Petition's being- pre-
sented by Members who did not represent the
county, and asserted the present to be one xvhich
had been smuggled through, and 'therefore tin,
worthy to have that regard from rarliameut which
they would attach to what was voted by a regular
County "Ateeting. He- entered into a long .detail
of the manner in which it had .beeri
framed,' and sguatures pmcured, and tiottitt
it shoinid not he received, as the namei of one or •
two Noble Lords were- affixed ; not by them
selves; but in COnstvonee of letters from thera,
authorising this to be done. .

Colonel liacv.'Ett. replied, :And said, when the
respectable and honour:it-de naitiei signed IA) tilts
petition were re ;{l, be trusted the llon.iler.erti
would lie as prompt to retract, as he had been ;hold
to assert, that it had heel' smuggled through the
conntry. it had received the signature of about
'fifty resident Magist rates , and t.*. tllrr ttitturl Pro-
testant Freehoiders. (it person> able: t coutylre-
bend what they ‘vere doing, ;Ind wit otte.of nera
( marksman. rile Hon, Colonel exoNinefl rhlit
thi..; W 153 the COllhO4on term in his country for these
who et.tdd 'hot 6iga their names, dud the r
in 'ark inste:al of a tlignaure,)--Ile been
to do so, bu.t the hAnthoesiwi, h the
o
Hn. Geact-al spoke of these petitioners. coin,•
pelted him to tell the reason of their tl;.us. corniLrg
to Piirlistuent. `chey el.ormto Parlitot!ect chiptisT
•on account of the .speeches in 'whidh the Hon.
General hi,;ttself 1p.,1 lately itutttlged AuLthe bust-
ings, wh w icb it as '..innecessury for rere4,
as the Hott.-Genetal pi-ottised to do
so, weird for word, rsu the first (10, he was set fie 4
to face against MiuMers in this Hottsc. BA he
would state that part which had caused these-pe,
titioners to feel a Seritte 'of their dattger, and dimiti
it
_necessary to pray for legislative protection.—
The Hon, Gencral bad called on the nviltitude
whom he addrestlA, no longer to aparoaeh the
Throne or Parliament with Petitions: but try dc-
ruand their rights, , and he said, {Gen. Ma-
thew) wiltlead :You ott if I should spill my blood

in your (Cot 11,agwal)hail teCtiv/ed
"letters from many person who espO ased that side;
regretting much the intemperance.of those among
Nehout lie would class'thellon.'General, who had
by that iutemperaneetimpeded the progreSs of the
cairns they pretended to advocate.
General 14:.TnEw.-confessed he might be wrong
in having used the word smuggled, bot persisted in
the opinion that the Petition had been forwarded
in ci clandestine manner. Neither himself nor his
collrague. could ever get a sight of it, till FIV
lets ;tit he had. seen it by chance in Cashel, iirui
again about an hour ago, in the hands of the She-
riff; to -whom he had made the ol,,ervation rela-
tive. to the .signature of the Noblemen's nainel;.,
which he did not consider to be their own.. He
was sorry the jinn., Colonel had alluded to what
he had ;;I:lc1.11t.. the hustings,hut since he had done
So, he trusted the House would indulge him with
a few words, As for his repeating his sentiment,
he only waited till to-morrow for the Catholic
Qu'estlon, to tell his Majesty's Ministers that he
l• • .• •
thought them incompetent; and that every man
ought, to assist in their. overthrow, and in itece-
lerwing their downfall: He was convinced he had
never used the words imputed to him, as he en,-
' tenanted tha utmost respect and regard ,or the
Prince ttegent, and could never have culled on
persons to be led on against the l'hrone. From
that Illustrious Personage; to Whom he under-
stood he bad been represented ii having spoken
disrespectfully Of him, he owed the highest grati-
tude for the knithiess.and attentiqn which he had
ever received from him, aud he now declared; be-
fore Gml and his, coati ry, he had never spoken
to h s disparagement. All that he said:Was, that
he would not have the Catholics to. Petition Par-
liameot.or the Iggislature, ,hut .demand their pri-
yileges'as a right- which belOnged to thr.!m.
colonel 13,Gw144, professed to know nothing
of the mode of applying the Signatures alluded
to ; and re-asserted, that the lionotival,le Gent-
ral had .called on the populace to derrfand and in-
sist on their rights; prornising, .at the tianin time,
to lead theill t it.
_ _

The SiTAKE:iiinciiiiced if the lionotirablecien.
tlennin2 had any reason to doubt that the signa-
tures Were those of the persons they purported
to be . •

Colonel I.3Acwitt. answered,' " None in the
world.''

The .SPEAXER. 60;1 asked Geneeal Mathew, if
be would take nun hirnSelf to assert that they
were tint
General ii,..llCilaW replied he had been informed

.• Petition w,ls received, read, and (mitred
to lic•owthe table.

41ItD. MAYOR OF DUBLIN..

The Lora .Nlayor 9nlilin was admitted to
,
,the Bar of Luc v th the Sallie formalities
415 the Sberill'A Of London, anol presented a
lyonl ~)rpf,riition of that'City against the
lodil Company's Ckarter,
lie op.d on being admitted a second
a Petition iroiu the same hotly
unqn;lified grant of the Catholic
Ifts 1,01.1. hip appei;red in Lis official
I,V;S: Wa, a pretty t..tencral buzz -in
the 1 Louie c u ptlttit% the question for his being

c:;iiie;: i~~

Lord DesAar presented a Petition from Gen-
.
tli men, and others of the County of Kilkettny..'---
His Lord hip prefexed his motion, by Stating
that it was very mimeo -Ay signed, and was
worthy of attention coining from one of the
mos,t Catholic Counties of Ireland. But it me,
rited ittention still More, font its speaking the
'opinion of an. erilightene,4 and honourable class
Ot men, ve#lio did not draw their coeclusious from
theoretieal, principle's, but front experieuee ref
what, was every day before them, and what they
tact perpetually in every walk of life, It canto
from persons ,!'ally competent, and enjoying the
best, opportunities to form ajtist and correct judg-
ment. Jr was eyen si.,,teed by many, and, among
others, by the highly respectable Chairman of the
Ali,eting where it Was agreed upon, who had been
friendly to the moderate requests :of the Catho,
bet were..routal to the resi:itinee of their WI,.
del333lds. • ,
. ,t'!Al` Nl:',WPOVT.attaOhed kis value and.
Alice to this Petition than the Nobte Lord.
stone d.. that, the Meeting was not called by the •
s'Sheritt, and intimated that he, the Sheriff, disap-
proyed of it, and that in consequence of, the op-.
pk„pitioit raised aga;ust it, the ;Meeting
,was
by the Chairman without taking the sense
.of the assembly/upon the, question of adjourn-
ment, moved by persons of: the greatest:property
Till the,. Country. „lie; froui indisposition, had
.not
been able ta attend it hiotself; but the two Coun.
ty Members were th,.!re .to:oppose it, and it was
:oppiised liy
.persous of the first consideration,
wi,oge, property amontited to fifty times more in
the County titan the Noblelinit's and all his as
After being defeated in the first in-
stance, they had hoeVeVer to 3 priVtite
*.•44l*fie, and effeeted their pnrpose there of smug-
thanigh tbia:vitrioes and fkibeietited docu-
Oent, to sigtil bleb they hod enticed people by
A:vety inenni-in their -power. Yet, be affirmed, it
was disapproved ,of by seven-eightlei :of the pro-
petty iu
. Lord :NSAIiT said he Was glad the }lemur-
"able Elarouet had. avowed he .was not present at
this meeting, since it alloired him to
,deelare that
ail he bad-stated: was destitute of foundation. The
,ketition hit'! beeretwice react, and was:signed by
liiinsclf kiwi many others before being submitted
to the A/".eeting. The,4frcumstanees attendant up-
on this :electing, kis sonic -of those who had
..es-
pouted the advocated'by the lion. Baronet, were
extremely sorry for what had been clone one the
oceasion, and, had since exprerAed their regret at
being coneerned in these tranasictiPls, a 9 VVCII. 113•
a hope thlit itothiez• migitt.be said to :call for ex-
plenetion on the subject, he lamented.to be fil;,
liked, to notice. But the. ilf.m.Barouet had tack
c,,,,rge4 which no man of diameter 'or honour
onitii sit:Silently and bear 111114 p-iced. ilim.{ineriiVJ
ii rule Wits attaehed to :the keiition, of which he
I,erfectly approved and there :was ,Only one in-
stead of both the comity Iy/embers' at the meeting.
lint it %Vaii4 singular that those :so earnest antl loud
for. emancipation and f'reed'om :thetuselves, would

EiNf pril.t
At tbt Surt Otvid

Tint allow these bcn&fits to be enjoyed by others.
It was strange that the Catholics and their friends
who were- permitted by the Protestants, to meet
Owl( day without interruption, within a very
short distance of the .place of this. meeting,. and
thel.)l to issue their mandates and thre;tts as they
pletoo, wonld not suffer the Protestants to mea
only once without breaking in upon' them. Ought
this priyilege not to be allowed to the lower order
of Protestants, who Were more nearly and vitally
interested in this question than the higher orders
Should they, who m.q the Catholics upon an
equality in every walk of life, be debarred from
the exercise of this right, and should the Hon.
Baronet, with that aristocatic pride which he Its.
sinned to himself, place the rental of every man in
the county before them, as a scale on which to
measure their opioions ? He would disdain to
enter into an aretnnent on this subject. The
Noble Lord then detailed the mode— of calling,
and the proceedings of the meeting, Abundant
notice was given, and the Protestants friendly to
the Petition were summoned together. But they
were broke in spent by persons-. of another de-
scription, and by a number of Ci!tholics; and, up-
on a watch-wind given, a cry was set up, to pre-
vent anyone-being heard who was inclined to de-
liver his sentiments/in support of the Petition ; so
nine)i so, indeed, that it was only by lond clamour
they were informed that the 'question of adjourn-
ment had been mAyed.,; tinder these circumstan—
ces, the Chairman bid the assembly, and
they withdrew t 9 it more orderly and qtkiet place
It was cm ion, to notice, th it after they had reff
tired, a, few Catholics, who protested against the,
meeting as illegal, remained hehindiand notwith-
standing this sentiment, appointed a, Chairman,
and agrued to certain Be:olotifms, which, how-
ever, being afterwards their conduct,
they had the good sente. not to promulgate. As
to they
being figned through spurious ,nteans;
he denied the. fart, and with regard to. threat,: be-
hug used, that was nett . lone, by the'promotet of
flit itinO, but 14 the either side., He knew te-
nants who were threatened by their landlords if
they signed the Petition, anti required to signi
against it, some of whom had deelared., that they
would not he induced to st.;ll apinst their eon
science, their King, and the securit•ci of the con-
stitution:. Many of these per:ions he .bad eclvi eel
"(I; to sign 1.11-is Petition, as it mig4t,draw down.
more ipdividnal iojury on themselves, :than their
Single names would do service On the parchment.
The House, he trusted. Would receive it for what
it purported to,he, "Abe Petition at the under,
signe,! ; and speaking the sense of the real pro,
pori.ic:l of the ProtestUnt population of the
ea:nay.

Siv,4JollNNENyro,lCtexplained.
The Petition.was,thvn read, and ordered to lie
t)ti the titl)lo'. •

The Cuoict4Lott .of the Excnratirm presented
a Pc from the ,Eren6 Protestant Refugees
resident in LondOn and Westminster, against the
Catholic

`Sir. JAMES GRA,II/0 a 1 presented Pdtition to the
name effect, from the Pariah of Mary-le-Bone.
ThisTetition, he observed, was moit numerously
and respectably signed, by househeiders, whose
phres of residence were appended to their. ;lames',
Tiny were not roused by Protestants to take this
step, but they were rou.,ed by the tone and
manlier in which the Catholics ~idvaoced their
d land .

IsAuttAnn presented a Petition from the
protestant inhabitants of the King's County
against unlimited eonceions to the 'Catholics.
lie stated, that tkci Petitioners dill not object to
the repeal of the laws,affeeting the Catholics, on
certain conditions ; but they earnestly prayed,
that should the I rouse feel tiisohed to concede
theSe thal oil'!` 'civil and religious establish-
nicks may be protected i and he took that 'op-
portunity of stating, that though he should vote
for a Committee to take these cliiii s into Cori«
slderation, he would not I,i;rce ICI
that hail mit for, its ohjeetsinlicient seett city akaiwt
foreign dominion and influence, •
*. 'Mr. usTAvos Rocnrotvr presented a Petition
front the Protestants of the Comity t)f Westineath
against the Claims Of the Catholics.
These Petitions, with Mit front.theArchdetteou
and. Clergy of Nottinghant„ presented by, Lord
Newark, ,and several others, were alireceiVed; and
ordered to lie on:the table,

Mr. iltirrtuwonit said, that he kn6r7 from
certain authority, that the Petition had riot been'
nuanimonAy a4.;reed 49 at the Meeting, but that
there had been as mdority I:iyoiti• of it, I:),Le
Petition was then ordered to Ha "on the talk:
Jr.!ir. W. pre,unteil a Petition from the
Meniher: of.,the Unitariom Society South
why conceiv.ing themseh'es a;.:•!;iied by
thp penal prayed fot' rclVer. Cn.lercti to lie
on the tqlile.

Mr. TrusKissotz presented « Petit on from hiS
con:,titoents in Chichester, praying that Parlio-.
nient should take into Claims
of thulionian Catholic's, .pormint to the Resciln-
tion passed during the last Sessi,ort of tbe foriner
Parliament.

Il.uomssox then
.went on to 5ti4,;,,, that
much misehiennut been done to bf the
Catholics in Chichester and its nei:Atibour:uui, by
the distribution of hand bill4,,:eolltAin'il)g extracts
from what he called publication,
titled, " 1,1 statement of the third 4 the Pe-
nd Laws regarding theltOnian'Catbnlies,"
Sir JO UN \rr.sypont that/the distri-
bution iif'such pr;nted paperi wai not confined to
Chichester; but had been txteauled to Y4shire,
Lancashire, and other parts of EnOond. He
characterised the work its all ii#aniotis iihrication;
and was surprised that, Govermneut had nut taken
any steps against the Printer. or It.•

Mr. FITZGERALD said, Ile had listened with
Considerable pain to the whole_of the prOccellings
upon these petitions, and lamented ro find that
1:1117 were coining to the consideration of such
numerOus. petitions, and Of Sit 1I au importfult
question, in such, a temper. As a friend to the
Catholics, and to their cause, he latnented the
manner in which. their aclVoCatvs thought proper
tOimpport their chi:tins, and he regretted to sAy,
thet every person.
:connected ' with Governl
ment was altuOit compi:l44 Cpl w4ll - ill to
the e;tholie ea Ise, from the intemperate Ittit
goict,;e of those Who professed-to be its friends. If
the Right Hon. Baronet li'ail•becn in the louse !in
a former day, when the publication in question
was alluded to, he would have heard his Right
lion. Friend (Mr. Peele) diSclaim, on the part of
-Government, any knoWledge ',whatever of that
work ; fie would have heard him declare that he
had never even heard of it, until it was put into
his hands some time alter it WaS piinted.. The
Right. Hon. Baronet. would also have learnt, if he
bad been in the blouse on the former Occasion,
that the printer of the first two parts of the. penal,
laws affecting the Homan Catholics was not pro-
scented forpubikit.wg their statement, but because
he lcul accused the Lord Zaiciltcoaut of Ireland of
a fool and.nailignant murder. For that libel the
pri,;!er wa..; prosecuted and convicted, andwhat was
defence which he set up ? why, that it was mit
flue Lora Nentenant, but the LOrd Chief Justice
who was guilty of the murder ! ! With respect to
the work, intitied the '''Third Part of'the.Stqte-
mount," and tie declared, that when. be read it, it
appeared to Win to be so 'clumsy' a production,
that it could not possibly impose on any person.ol
common'sense, and the observation he ujadc when
hefirst i•saw it, .0 a Gentleman, whO he )relieved,
was thew in the House, wag, 'that even as an
irOnicat attempt it )Vas ridienlous. What icapres-
Sion that work had made hi this country, he did
notkithw, but he could not think very highly of
the intellects of any person who Could he iMposed
upon by it. Ile again repeated, that the GoVern-
ment cif Irelandltuew nothing of thipublication;
an(i.h.e cOneltided,.by declaring, that he should be
ashamed to belong tha'iy Governutent, that-could
stoop to such a measure.
Sir H. PAHNLI.E, repeated the Obsservatiop.s he
laid made on a former evening; as to the correct-
ness of the statements coati ii in time two first
parts of The ‘Statehzent.: Secre7
tary.for Ireland "eras. ignorant of the pnblielltion of
1.110 Third Mat ;. lint: when it ilie:trt(l in a Paper,
the protection •of the Government, he
not,thinli it ennld have passethinnotieed by

t •
Kaki, he rose to repeat wnat
• had said on a former night respecting.tidi WOYk)
and to disclaim., on thelyart Of 'the Irish Govern-
meat, imy kilowkoge or participation in it. lie
hurl never of it until it was put into
his hand sonic tune after its priblicat Ile
.did even know that it was priblisired at the Dahill)
Jourrfal until he heard it stated in that
Nouse. Ile was surprised that a Gentletnan who
hati sheWn scr.impeticct a recollection'of the, note
in the. " Statement" should undertake to vouch
for the accuracy of the asSert ions contained in that
work., The nondurable Gentleman had said
that the note merely stated that a 'perSon of the
MAC of Barry had been executed, though he
was inmceot, and - that the conduct ot the
the Irish Cl6vernmerit upon that oecaßion would
probably be investigated in Parliament. He did.
not profet4s to recollect the exact words of the
note, but he was sure they were much stronger
tkan the flonottrable Gentleman bad represented.
It was, stated in that note, that between the time of
the conviction and the execution of -Barry, Irk in-
nocence had been clearly proved to the irkh Go-
vernment. That wits the Charge made against the
Iri4ll GovernMent, for which: the Printer. had..beco
prosecuted and convicted bya Jury of his' country.
It might perhaps be necessary to state, that this
" respectable farmer,'' as he had lii;en waS
at the time .he was' tried for the crime for .uhleir
he, sullered,, actually under sentenC4, of trans-
portation for another offence. He did not wish
to provoke aby farther diseussmi upon. the subject
at present, but be could not. help expre-ssing his
siirprize that the-Right Hon. Baronet. sliduld think
that Irish Ciovernmelit were equally hound
tti proseente that clumsy work called the " Third
Part,: of the .Statement, 4c., as they were art',
printer of a work which -attributed-to the Lord
Lieutetuntt. of Ifelan<l such a -"crime as that to
which be had alluded., ,

The Petition wa their ordered to lie on the
table. •

MOTION FOR MACE.

'Mr.:WHITBREAD Witll.lrer:. In ;notion on the
subject of Peace, witiell stood tor this day sen-
night , reset viol; the power 01 bringing it he fore
the House at any period prior to the end of the
Sesbion.