The Sun.
London, England, 1838-04-13 00:00:00

Cross-examined by Sir W. FOLLETT.—There is a room
called the dining-room on the ground floor, and so is the
drawing-room. The room where I signed the papers is the
sitting-room, which my master occupies now. We have bad
some new rooms made lately. Letters came from Mr. Panton
to my mistress and master. Cannot tell how many. My
mistress used to show me her letters sometimes. Dots not
remember the day in May she went to Carnarvon market. I
only witnessed one paper on that day. lam quite certain of
that. On the Bth of October I signed two parchments. Only
two, I swear, and one paper. It was two large parchments.
(The deed of partition before referred to.) I remember ac-
curately what passed at the time. I have witnessed several
papers for my master, but I don't know what they related to.
I do not know that I have ever after signed any other papers
connected with Mr. Panton's affairs. My master never asked
me to witness a pencil writing or n copy of a pencil-writing.
I have seen this before (the pencil scrip, No. 7) at Mr. Wade-
son's; I saw it at Child's Bank. 1 did not see a copy
made of it there for my master. I do not recollect my
master calling me to witness a writing which he had elided.
( Scrip 9 put in hcrhands) 1 saw this at Child's bank, and
put my initials to it. 1 never saw it until at Child's bank.
I never witnessed a copy of it. I never witnessed anything
at the bank. The signatures to the two papers 1101 W put in
my hands are mine. I was at the bank in June 1837. That
was the first time I saw the papers alluded to. Has kntswn
Elizabeth Evans two years. Does not know whether shi.:
knows anything about Mr. Panton's writing. I put this,
small E. E. on this paper with my left hand, my right being•
lame. I put my signature to something I knew nothing
about at the desire of my master. The signature " Anti
Williams" is like her handwriting. When she placed her
initials on the papers she was residing with her master at
Nottingham-place. I used my left hand because I could not
use my right.—( A laugh.) (A paper handed to the witness
to read.) I don't remember having seen this before. I Aliould
not like to swear positively that I did not, because its so long
ago. I either saw thin, o rone like it, at Mr. Wadeson's the
proctor. Elizabeth Williams was only called iu once to wit-
ness at Brynbrass, and we both signed at the same time. X
put my hand to the parchment. lam not so positive whether
I might not have signed two parchments on that day. I only
signed two on the day when I came home from Carnarvon
market. When Mr. Panton delivered the parchments and
put his finger on the seal, he said, " I deliver this as my act
and deed." When he delivered the wills in like manner, he
said, " I deliver this as my last will and testament." Heard
.tom name of Hurlock ntentioned. When my master put his
name to the deed, on the 6th of November, 1834, I sever
heard him say, " What a deal of trouble this Hurlock gives."
I never mentioned to any one that I had witnessed Mr. Pan-
ton's will, because I was told not, on both occasions. I did
not state the circumstances until I came to London, except.
when I talked with Ann. When I was first asked about it I
recollected all that passed three years ago. I told Mr. Tyler
that my master said something about Mr. Hurlock when I was
leaving the room. I witnessed another paper in October,
1836. We came to town in November. I have had no con-
versation with my master about the m tttcr, till he brought me
up to Doctors'-commons to be examined. He never asked me
whether I recollected Mr. Panton making a will. Ann and I
have been in the room in prison. Have not talked much to
her about it. I know what she knows, and she knows what
I know.

By the ATTORNEY-GENERAL,-.4 believe this pencil paper
and the other, put into my hand 4. to be Mr. Panton's hand-
writing. I saw th mat Mr. Wadeson's, as well as at Child's.
My master was writing a copy. My master and Mr. and Mts.
Lewis came to town, and had lodgings in Nottingham-place.
Ellen Evans was present when I signed the deed at Brynbrass
Castle. Ido not know when I signed them.
LThe prisoner, who commiserates the situation of his servants
as much as he feels his own degradation, wept several times
while the witness was giving her evidence.]
Ann Williams (the third prisoner) examined by the ATTO,:-
NEy-GENERAL.—I came into the service of Mr. Williams in
May, 1833. I learnt to write at school. I remember Mr.
Panton coming to Brynbrass. I remember being called upon
to sip/ a paper, but I do not recollect the day of the week .
The last witness and John Williams went with me. Mr.
Panton and Mr. Williams were in the room. There were
some papers on' the table. Mr. Panton's watch and seals
and some wax also }vere on it. My master said, " Mr. Pan.
ton wishes you to sign a will." There was a large paper,
which my master, myself,. And Ellen Evans signed. 'Mr. Pan.
ton first signed the large paper, and then the will. When ho
had signed the latter he said, " I deliver this as my last will
aid testament." The papers wel-o brought to us at the side
table, and we three signed it. We All signed in the preseuee
called in toe -__ • t. 0,1
were present before (Messrs. Panton and Williams). II May
nothing was signed except the will. There were one or two
parchments, which were signed by Mr. Panton, Ellett Evans,
and my master.
Cross-examined by Sir Wm. FOLLETT. —I never saw John
Williams, my late fellow-servant, attest or make his mask.
Ile could write better than me.
The witness was closely cross-examined by the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman, but nothing was elicited to shake her
origiol statement, or to contradict Ellen Evans in any ma-
terial point. The similarity- of their testimony was only
equalled by tLe simple and straightforward manner in which it
was given. This witness said she and her companion ( Ellen
Evans) had talked
had been in
the matter since they about
prison. They exixrsrica surprise to one another, and won-
dered what they were brougi,: to prison fur.
Several douments connected `With the Ecclesiastical Court
were here put in and read.
A little after eight the Court atijotwnt.d to half-past nine on
Saturday morning.
ride out to-
Mr. Justice PARKE said the gentlemen Inighl:
morrow.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL suggested that the sheOr Pr°-
vide an omnibus, and then they could all ride together.