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then), such an a_ tempt to prejudice the.mattercould
not have been, passed.pver unnoticed or uncensured.
Much stress has alio been laid by the Noble-Baron
.ore the condufrof Government towards America.—
Ka still imputes the measure of the Embargo to the
Orders in Council is.ued by the, British Govern-,
went ; but it the Noble Baron will refer to the cor-
I ('Tou4nCt.!,!rWP.A./r.,,?bladk.rtn. nd:Air, it'd; ;
nu that. occasien, he, must be convinced. that at
-the time of laying on the Embargo, the Ame-
rican Government were acquainted only . with
the Decrees of the ,French, Government, and that
they adopted the measure of the Embargo on the
'supposition that the French Deers would produce
o i our part some measure Of retaliatiOU, such as that
, Orders itt Cnnacil. There was no disposition
oh the- part of the British U/eminent to lintate
Attiefca on the contrary,,e‘ery thing was done in
the tone and manner of Conciliation, .ti far as the
hotionr;the interests, andthe rights of the Country
could allow ; but no consideration should pre-
vail
upon us to impair these things, on the vile
dication of them depended all our strength, and nart.
tional dignity and importance ; and surely they were
not to belacrifieed to America, at the very mnment
When America seemed so blind to her own interest,
and had betrayed so decided a partiality k;s favour of
France, to the prejudice and injury of Great Britain.
When the time arrived for a minutes explanation of
all these points, he should he happy to afford every
information in his power more fully to explain them.
The present he did not conceive to be the proper
moment for entering into that explanation.
LordStnstotirn shortly explained the motives
which induced him -to concurin the Address. He
,did not conceive it to pledge him to any of the par-
ticular measures to which it referred ; and with that
reservation it was that he gave his present 'concur-
rence.

1,4 d MOIRA disapproved of many of the para-
graphs in the Address; but would still refrain from
moving any Amendment. Ile particularly insisted
on that which -referred -referred to the Armistice and Con-
vention concluded in Portugal, and took occasion to.
:explain the opinion which he had delivered upon it
as a Member of the Court of Inquiry. He concor-,red, indeed, with his colleagues in saying; that im
farther military pruceedingshOuld be Lind h) that mat.
to ; and he had emphatically made use of the word
mililaty on the occasion. As far as the Officers, who
took a part in the trensadion, were engaged, he would
repeatit, that they had behaved with 'unquestionablir
zo.al and fieriness. They Might have perhaps imputed
to them an error in judgment ; but eircuinstanced
'as they were, their error was not such as fell wl:hin
,any infraction of the articles of war, it was rather
error imputable to his Majesty's Ministers, and
to the manner in which they had prepared
.and sent
out the Expedition.. The Address also alluded to
further aid to be.: afforded-10 Sweden. Should it
not hat inquired how that:aid was to' be applied ?
,Was .the further assistance, to he hereafter granted
to. Sweden, to be, applied in • the manner in which
we had hitherto afforded that support ? What, in
1:10, bad been done for!Sweden,: that in the least
contributed to give: her any. material asSistance.--,
From her adhereneis to our.alliance, she had alrttady
lost almost half, of her territory, and 'was now ex.:,
posed to the severest fate. We were as much 'bortnd
therefore to attend t:Sweden ail() Spain. %PIO
always of opinion, that all the military assistance in
our power should Ile granted to Spain, InSpainmust
be fought the battle of. British independence. The
.fall of Spain must he the fall of this country. The two
..capntries must now sink or swim together.. I-tad the
.jiritish ',Government: sent. 'out in dine tirne a proper
person. to concert:measures with the Spanish people-'',
,and 'amicably to explain. the motives upon which
the British nation whited to 061 towards, Spain, the
Sl'aniards would- never have • refused to accept the
allot • troops from. us. They refused them froth
mischievous ..error, or foolish jealoteiy : that error
4boold have been cerreefed, that jealousy explained
awajc. In this., and many other points of the 'A&
dress
.he could not concur; btu he would still for-
bear moving, any Amendment, conceiving that he
was not pledged tautly particular measure to which
It Might allude, and reserving to himself the right
of .discussing or disapproving them on a future oc-
casion, t

' Lord 'ERSKINE reprobated the Address, ai in many
Tespeas disingenuous, patticulatly, in the attempt
which it made to screen Ministers, by shifting the
blame of the Convention of Cintra from their own
shoulders on those of the Othein s who commanded
the Expedition to Portugal. If there was en error
of judgment any where, it was to be charged on Ws ,
Majesty's Ministers, who 'had placed those Officers
itt b situation which' reduced them to the necessity
of acceding to such terms. , The condal of :NUM-
.sters in rcje6ing the, 'proposal of America, he might
• reprobate.. It .would lead to the. worst eon4e-
fplence4,' It would' throw America into the arms of
France,-and tenet to separsto the new from the old
world, 'which trnisr. deeply wc.,tid the commercial
pi osperity of the conotty:
• The LORI) Cu ANC VI.LOR C011)b3IIell the 'opinions •
of ,his 1\ I
tob,c and 'Jeanie:l Friend. Nothing amid
be more unionnned Mull she idea w h'rch. some NOblo
Lords seethed to entertain., 1114114 Government of
this country seemed to act mock' by a spirit of hos-
tility towards America. `I 'hey harboured no Stith
ti Ming, on the contrary, they were sensible that the
it:1101E06 of the Ilk() Ccitlllitieti were closely connect,
ed : but that I..:agland must. maintain her dignity,
her right., and her : otherwise!, indeed, site
A;ntlld so0:1 piove'bra on unavailing friend to, Ante-
, rice or any other country. Nothingennki he more'
tinfooncied than (1)1 charge of. tlisingennotomess
brought al aitit (he i‘ddress by his ruble and Lean:-
Friend. What was there diiiingenunus in it ?
It did not preclude the House from the fullest hives.
tigao.,t, of any of the: weasnres it had referred so,
fitt Lit them open for futtire discussion and ceiinte.
in the rc-remince it matie'io the Arnihitice and, Con-
u.,.; volition, :it did not_ intend any rufleaion.upon the
military coneind of the Officers conoerned in thorn.
!,,ft srat lotr had in contemplation circumstance 9 of a
'lU,,etf-timyrv, rather poi,Ccal than military, and
• orve, most probably, it was of whiCh his l‘laivhty
docliired his disApprObanon, Wilco ell these
come here-1141. to be more billy thaeus*ed,
%could tiod.-OuioNtivva folly' at libery
tro;,:i thvin accouttits4o thejndgment they might
Titt.4iisoncntrost6: the Ad-
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