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London, England, 1836-08-17 00:00:00

UIPER lAL PARLIAMENT,

(THIS EVENING.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER entered the House a Quarter before Four
o'clock, shorty after which Sir Augustus Clifford, the
Usher of the Black Rod, appeared at the Table, and sum-
moned the House to the House of Lords, to bear the Royal
• Assent given to several Bills, for which see our Lords' Report.
Mr. Swinburne, from the Commissioners of Westminster-
bridge, presented certain returns.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that as he believed there was
not business to occupy the House to-morrow, he begged
leave to move that the House at its rising do adjourn to
Friday next.—Agreed to.
COMMON FIELDS INCLOSURE.
Mr. LEADER presented a petition from Bristol against
this Bill. As, however, a clause had been introduced to
obviate the objections of the petitioners, he would not oc-
cupy tae time of the House with any observations upon them.
CHURCH RATES.
Mr. WILKS presented a petition from Chatteris, in
E 17.4 deprecating the continuance of Church Rates.
Lord J. RUSSELL would take that opportunity to cor-
?ect a misunderstanding respecting some words that had
• fallen from him on this subject. When the subject was
discussed in that Reuse, and an Honourable Member
stated to him that his vote would depend upon his (Lord
J. Russell's) answer respecting Church Rates, he thought
that it. would be unfair to induce that Hon Gentleman to
give his vote, when it might afterwards appear that the
measure which he (Lord John Russell) would have to
'propose might not be such as that Hon. Gentleman con-
templated. This statement of his was supposed to imply
that he (Lord J.. Russell) felt quite certain that the mea-
sure he intended to introduce next Session would
be a measure that must be 'unsatisfactory to that
Honourable Gentleman, and to his Honourable Friend
who had presented this petition, and to others who had
taken an interest in this subject. He begged leave to say
-that he did not at all mean to imply this : what he meant
was, that he would not take advantage of an Hon. Gentle-
man's vote, when the measure he had to propose might not
come up to that Hon. Gentleman's expectations ; but his
hope was then, and is now, that the measure which he
should have to propose would be satisfactory to his Hon.
Friend who had presented this petition, and to the great
part of those who were interested in the subject.--(Hear.)
THE BISHOPS.
Mr. RUTHVEN presented a petition from St. Ann's,
Dublin, stating that the public business would be greatly
facilitated in the House of Lords, if the Bishopi had not
seats there, and praying the House to take into its consi-
deration some measure by which the Bishops might be ex-
pelled from the House of Lords. He moved that the pe-
tition be laid on the table.
Mr. A. TREVOR would oppose the petition being laid
on the table. It prayed that the Bishops might be expelled
from the House of Lords, and he submitted that that was
not language in which petitions presented to that House
ought to be couched.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL would like to hear the opi-
nion of the Chair, as to whether the petition ought to be
received or not.
The SPEAKER considered the petition contained lan-
guage which would prevent its being received by the House.
Mr. RUTHVEN would withdraw the petition, and
take care that the language Was amended. At the same
time he believed that such petitions had been received by
the House.
Mr. BUCKINGHAM gave notice of his intention to
move for Select Committees on his Bills respecting public
walhs, public grounds for play, and for the preservation of
the public morals.
Mr. HUME wished to ask the Nob'ie Lord (Lord J.
Russell), whether any measure for the more speedy trial of
juvenile offenders was in the contemplation of the Govern-
ment for next Session, as he had before promised that some
-measures on the subject wzre in contemplation, and they
had not yet heard of it.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said a measure upon the subject
would be brought fOrward in the next Session. He might be
allowed then to say that he thought the Dartmoor would
have made an excellent prison for the purpose. He bad
sent down an inspector of prisons, and an architect, who
reported that it would not be worth while to lay out
money for repairing it, it not being in a fit state. He
had directed inquiries to be made respecting other public
places, but had not yet been able to satisfy himself with a
building which would be suitable to the purpose.
Mr. LENNARD said a report had long been on the
table from the Commissioners who inquired into the cri-
minal law. He had been deterred from bringing forward
any measure, hoping that the Government would do so.
He now wished to ask, whether it was probable the
Government would introduce some measure next Session ?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said a measure upon the sub-
ject was in contemplation. The report on the table did
not, though an able report, enable him to introduce a Bill
upon it. He intended, therefore, to refer some other
question to the Commissioners, which he thought would be
answered in time.
Mr. M. PHILLIPS presented a petition from the cot-
ton and woollen manufacturers of Manchester and Salford,
praying for the repeal of the duties on cotton. The Hon.
Member gave notice that he would, early in the next ses-
sion, move for the entire repeal of the duty on raw cotton.
After some few observations from Mr. HUME and Mr.
ROBINSON, the petition was ordered to be laid on the table.
CHURCH RATES.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY presented a petition from the
Chichester Church Association, praying for the redress of
grievances. The petitioners, after enumerating the griev-
ances of which they complained, hoped his Majesty's Mi-
nisters would next Session introduce a Bill for the abolition
of Church rates. Also a petition from the Surrey Radical
Association against certain parts of the Poor Law Amend-
ment Bill, and for the repeal of the Corn Tax.
Mr. WARBURTON presented a petition from Wi-
port, praying that a penalty might be imposed upon rill per-
sons selling spirits below the legal proof.
ORDNANCE.
Sir R. DONKIN presented papers from else Ordnance-
office, which were laid on the table.
Mr. HUME hoped that during the recess some measures
would be taken to carry into effect the recommendations of
the Committee upon this subject,
EDUCATION.
Mr. EWA RT begged to know whether it was the inten-
tion of his Majesty's Government to appoint a Commission
to inquire into the state of education hi England and Wales.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, as we understood, said that
the subject would have the consideration of Government
previous to the next Session of Parliament.
ADMISSION OF LADIES.
Mr. HUME, on behalf of the Hon. Member for Glou-
cester, begged to give notice, that early next Session, he
should renew his notice for the admission of ladies to the
Gallery of the House of Com:nons.—(Laughter.)
LIEUTENANTS OF COUNTIES.
Mr. WI LKS gave 'notice, that early next Session, he
should.move the appointment of a Select Committee to
consider the present system of the appointment of Lords
(Lieutenant of Cnuties, and of Justices of the Peace.—
Hear, hear.) The Ilon. Member was proceeding on the
subject, whra be was called to order.
HAMPSHIRE LABOURERS. Lord J. RUSSELL, in reference to a motion that stood
on the paper respecting the labourers
who were transport al
in 1831 for machine-breaking and riot, said it was °rite un-
necessary to enter into this question, as it wovid 'be suffi-
cient to read a letter from the Under Secretary of State for
the Colonies, in reply to one that Was written by him
(Lord John Russell) t Ist of August, which he
thought would be satisfactory,The letter stated, that in
consequence of a communication from him (Lord J. Rus-
sell), the whr,le of the conviFts who had been trans-
ted for machine-breaking and riot had been pardoned,
por
except ten, who were undereeino.e,p.cunishment for offences
committed in the Colonies. Th: exception
bad only been
made with respect to those who had en. previously con-
victed of other offenses unconnected with riots or machine-
breaking.—(Hear, bear.)
Mr. HUME-Did the pardon include all?
Lord -1.0 HN RUSSELL—There was no distinction.
The Public Works (Ireland) Bill was then read a third
time, and passed.

PAROCHIAL ASSESSMENT BILL.
On the motion of Mr. P. THOMSON the Parochial
Assessment Bill was read a third time and passed.
EXCHEQUER SUITS BILL.
On the motion of the SOLICITOR-GENERAL the
Exchequer Suits Bill went through a Committee, and was
ordered to be relta a third time on Friday.
C°MMON FIELDS ENCLOSURE BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved
the consideration of the Lords' Amendments to the Com-
mon Fields Enclosure Bill.
Mr. POTTER would submit whether the House could
discuss amendments that were not before it. They were
not even printed, and few of the Members had seen them.
jMr. AKLEY said if there were not most serious ob-
ections to the amendments he would not oppose the Bill,
provided an opportunity was given till Friday to examine
them.

Mr. BAGSH AW could not sec the propriety of post-
poning' the consideration of the amendments.
Mr. HUME said either the House was called upon to
answer the Lords' amendments or not ; if they were, they
ought to know what the amendments were.

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74COND7EDITIO INT Mr. YOUNG and Mr, `NICKS deprecated the postpone-
• mcnt of the consideration of the amendments.
SUN OFFICE, SCVCII 0' CIOCk. Mr. WAKLEY approved of the principle of the Bill,
but he would not sanction amendments without reading
them. As far' as he had read the amendments he believed
that they had improved the Bill.
Mr. BLAMIRE denied that the Bill would have the
effect of taking away open grounds in the neighbourhood
of towns, which had hitherto been appropriated to the
public. He thought it would be far better that the dis-
cussion should go on.
Mr. LEADER thought that time ought to be given till
'Friday, in order to give Hon. Members an opportunity of
reading the amendments.
Mr. HARVEY thought that a Bill of such importance
ought not to be introduced within 24 hours of the proroga-
tion of Parliament.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
they ought to read the amendments, and understand what
they meant. If it appeared that difficulties arose upon the
amendments, ' and that objections existed, then a
proposition might be fairly made for the postponing the con-
sideration of the Bill to another time.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House
divided, when the numbers were—
For taking the Amendments into consideration 60
Against it 5