The Sun.
London, England, 1831-09-23 00:00:00

(PRIVATE CORRESPONDENCE.)

PARIS, SEPT. 20.
It is now a quarter to one o'clock; the President has
taken the chair, and M. de L•iriboissiere ascends the tri-
bune, to complain of time treatment he met with yesterday,
while traversing the streets on horseback, at the hands of
a detachment of the National Guard.

He is succeeded by General Sebastiani, but, from the
passionate terms in which he delivers himself, and the up-
roar excited by the announcement of M. Lariboissiere, it
is impossible to catch even the import of his observations.
M. Audry de Puyraveau reads a long written paper,
which will doubtless be handed up to some favourite
journalist; but all that can be gathered from it,' in the
mean time, is, that it is corroborative of the accusation
originated by the first speaker.
M. Mather de Mongan defends the National Guard with
good temper and firmness, and is followed on the same
side, but with less moderation, by 31. de Laborde.
Al. o,lillon l 3 irrot succeeds, and, with more tact and
discretion than his predecessors, waits patiently at the tri-
bune till the storm is in some degree appeased. His ob.
jest, I rejoice to find, is pacific. He is doubtless desirous
to disabuse the public mind of the idea, which has lately
been gaining ground, that he is one of those ambitieur
who think of rising to station and eminence through the
medium of a new reign of terror.
The tribune is now in possession of M. de Schonen, who
speaks with great force, and in the same sense with 31.
Udillon Barrot.

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and proceeds with slow and me +sure(' step, a written paper
in his hand, towards the steps of the tribune. But it he
has prepared a written oration, he delivers himself, as he
always dues, without book. He opens the whole question
of the foreign policy of the Government in all its latitude.
He begins with Belgium, and complains that the demolition
of the frontier fortresses should be left to the deliberation,
if not to the decision, of. the bitter enemies of France—
Russia, Austria, and Prussia. Poland is the next point to
which he applies himself, as /o which be repeats the argu-
ment maintained by M. Mauguin at the commencement of
the debate yesterday morning. The Ministers are all pre-
sent ; M. Casimir Perier occasionally, by an incidental ex-
pression, more frequently by an equally significant gesture,
announces his dissent from the views which the gallant
Deputy proceeds to develops. He seems to concentrate his
indignation against the Government, and the lachete of
the Ministry, in permitting the latter Power to supply the
oppressors of Polish freedom, not merely with shelter and
protection, but with all the munitions of war.
Thiers, the youngest, the least, perhaps the ablest,
and certainly the most fluent, extemporaneous speaker on
the Ministerial side of the Chamber, prepares to answer
the arguments of General Lamarque, and to defend the
external policy of the Government. He takes a rapid sur-
vey of the proceedings of the Great Powers with reference
to Belgium, resists the previous arguments of M. Bignon
as to the entry of the troops of Austria into the states of
the church, and contends that France could not rush
into a war without the assurance—the certitude--of
incurring the most serious dangers. lie boldly
acknowledges his apprehension of the perilous
consequences to France which war must carry
in its train. An incident has just arisen to di,turb the
solemnity which the debate had begun to assume. In allud-
ing to the last Spanish invasion, M. Thiers has fallen into a
chronological error, which excites the hilarity of theceottehdee
gauches, and for a few minutes interrupts the gravity of
the discussion. He displays, however, no small address in re-
trieving his mistake, and on resuming he proceeds to draw a
parallel between the habits of polticalliberty enjoyed by the
inhabitants of England, and the habits of personal equalitr
inherent in the manners of the people of France. li
inquired if France was wise in 1793 to pursue the system
of a war of propagande which was then adopted. H.
enumerates the campaigns which followed, and shows
how they Iva to tile military dospotilm of Arapoleou, le

/*asks, -to tngage in a war universal and in-
terminable? Belgium was a source of embarrassment to
all the world, but especially to France. When it became
the subject of discussion before the Conference of London,
it Was not necessary, as in an ordinary, deliberative as-
sembly, that the opinion of the minority, as contended by
M. Mauguin and General Lamarque, should succumb
before that of the majority. It was indispensitale to the
peace of Europe that the neutrality of Belgium should be
maintained, that it should not be blockaded by British fleets.
nor over-run by Prussian armies. To effect this object it
Was necessary to exclude the Prince of Orange, and after him
the Duke of Leuchtenberg. He reminds the Chamber of
the nomination by Napoleon of his brother-in• law and his
hrother to the thrones of Naples and of Holland ; and
shows, from the consequences that followed, how impo-
litic and imprudent it would have been to have accepted
the crown of Belgium for the Duke de Nemours. He
defends the accession of Leopold, and argues that unit.-
him the neutrality of B •Igium will make it a more effee.
tual tSte du pont for the dc'ence of time kingdom, than if
it had been actually annexed as a permanent appanage to the
French crown. He next addresses himself to the other
great branch, the qu,-stion of Poland, to which, wit..
that of Belgium, the arguments of M. Mauguin and Ge-
neral Lamarque were confined. He quotes the opinions
of Napoleon and of Frederick the Great, as to the influ-
ence of Poland on the balance of power in Europe. Here
M. Thiers is interrupted, the sitting is suspended, and
before it is resumed the hour of post will have arrived, so
that here I must close this too hasty communication.—L.

(From the Messager des Chambres, Wednesday,Sept. 21.)
PA US, SEPT. 20.—The report of the Committee on
the Peerage has been presented to-day to the Chamber by
M. Berenger, a grave conscientious man, who (which is a
remarkable fact) proposed in the Chamber of the Hundred
Days to abolish the Hereditary Peerage, and was opposed
by Manuel. Now M. Berenger, convinced by reason and
experience, is an advocate of the Hereditary Peerage. The
excellent arguments is !licit he adduced in favour (i 1 this re-
solution, condemned by the Committee as well as by the
Government, will have little influence on the passions, and
the passions have laid hold of this question. We recom-
mend to persons of every opinion the passage in which the
honourable reporter enumerates the services rendered to
our liberal institutions by the Chamber of Peers.
At the moment of our going to press no serious tumult
has distinguished this day, which some hire thought fit to
announce ever since Saturday as threatening to the tran-
quillity of Paris. Detachments of the National Guard and
of the troops of the line are stationed at the avenues to the
Chamber of Deputies. Some groups were found in the
squares and at the corners of the Rue Royale, but without
uttering any cries. The closing of the garden of the
Tuileries doubtless contributes to increase the number of
persons in the Rue de Rivoli. It appears that the cutiosity
which the riots excite has not ceased, for we remark ladies
both on foot and in carriages who come •to take a prome-
nade, passing through the assembled groups. This desire
of excitement would, we hope, be restrained, if people did
not begin to see that now, as on former occasions, order
and the lam must prevail. The very legitimate sympathy
which the misfortune of Poland could not but excite, could
not ex end to the riots, and the little regard that is paid to
this proves that the spirit of the capital is not changed.
If some fear has been mingled wilt the general sorrow,
confidence revives, because the question becomes more
clear, and persons interested in disorder must perceive that
there is no pretext, however not(1-), which can mislead a
people so enlightened as the pcop'e of Paris.
The explanations given by the Ministry will, as we Lope,
complete the renewal of confidence ; they destroy the,
system of falsehood and calumnies, by which it has been
sought to turn an unhappy event to the advantage of dis-
orders. Let discussion take place of defamation, and argu-
ment of brawling; and the Government, on the ground of
fact and logic, will be enabled to inform and convince its
impartial adversaries.
(From the Journal du Commercc,of Tuesday.)

PAII.IS, SEPT. 19.—The Aviso publishes the following
letter :

ALGIERS, AUG. lb.—Since the unfortunate expe-
don to Medeah, the Bedouins carried terror to the gates of
Algiers, and it was reported that they are assembling, to
number of 50,000 men, in the plains at the foot of the
Little Atlas."

REFORM IN THE NORTH.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

Sze,—•The northern counties are in a st.te of great po-
litical excitement, and were any irritation to transpire I
dare not imagine the result. The Political Union seems
to be the lever of the ❑orth, and it appears, at its com-
mand, to be able to rouse the whole mass of the population,
and that too in ~.uch a cool, organized, determined manner
as to cause a most solemn and petrifying effect. The
northern " Grimaldi" in saying that the people of the
north have cooled with.respect to the Bill has his answer
in the large meeting, and in the extraordinary and im-
posing dinner ; it has likewise been followed up by a pe-
tition sent off last night to be presented by Eal Grey to
the House of Lords, not in the usual style of petitioning,
hut in that style which w:11 assure their Lordships that
the petitisners, knowing their rights, demand and will
hive them ; it was signed by 30,73 k in a few days, and
some of the parchtnents came too late to he sent, which
added, would make considerably above 31,000. The pe-
tition lay but in one bookseller's shop in this town, and
was lestooned on his high building and in his shop ; in
Sunderland part of it was suspended as a flag, with tri-
coloured ribands ; in Alnwick it lay in the Town-hall,
and was signed by 800 of the most respectable inhabitants
of that town ; and what will the mighty Duke think
when he learns, that as if in a spirit of manly determina-
tion, every tradesman of influence has named his protession,
and added his residence? The power of the Union in-
creases fact, for by dint of perseverance in iisseminating
political papers, they have aroused the whole body of pit-
men to the study of politics. They (the pitmen) applied
for parchments and were refused from want of time, other-
wise from 11 to 17,000 more names might have been
added. However, lam positive, at any time, in two day., '
the Union can call forth a body of not less than 80 000
men. That you may be better able to judge of the feeling
of the people here as regards time Bill, 1 need only mention
that a meeting of the inhabitants of the town is to take
place on Monday, and it is determined to move that if their
Lordships decline or injure the Bill, that they (the people)
willl decline paying towards the support of a corrupt and
self-interested aristocracy. - I am, Sir, yours, &c.
Newcastle-upon• Tyne, Sept. 21. S. J.