The Sun.
London, England, 1822-02-09 00:00:00

RUSSIAN TARIFF.

Mr. BERNAL wished to ask the Noble Marquess opposite,
whether he was prepared with any information on the con,.
duct about to be taken by Russia concerning the proposed
relaxation of her Tariff? It would he in the remembrance of
the Noble Marquess, that Igst Session there was a❑ under-
standing that he should'make some inquiry on the subject.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY answe►ed, that he
would inform himself on the point, and give an answer upon
a future day.
• DISTURBANCES AT KNIGHTSBRIDGE.

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Mr. Sheriff GA ft RAIT appeared at the Bar with a Petition
from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of
the City of London, in Common-Council'assembled. The pe-
tition went at considerable length into the affray that took
place at Knightsbridge in August last, on the occasion of
Honey's funeral, and concluded by praying, that the House
would institute such inquiry into the subject as would iii fu-
ture protect ths,civil power -against the attacks of military
force.
Mr. Alder Man WOOD said, he would not enter into the
suhject of the petition upon this occasion: After moving that
it should: he received and printed, he would then propose,
!bid the evidence taken before the Committee of the Common
Council, and the Report founded on it, should be laid upon
the table for the information of the House. A copy had, he
believed, before-been sent to the Secretary, of State. If these
motions were agreed to, he would, at some other time, name
an early day for going into the inquiry.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, he did not rise
for the purPose of objecting. to the petition being received.
He- thought the -Hai'. Alderman bad better change the order
of his proceedings, and give notice first of a motion for laying
the evidence before the House. It did not follow as a matter
of course that the evidence and the report were to be laid on
the table with the petition, or that they were immediately to
institute an inquiry onthat evidence. With all deference
for the Common Council, the House would nut, he believed,
feel disposed to delegate their powers to them.
Me. HUME wished to know whether there was any objection
to produce the evidence taken by direction of Lord Bathurst.
He rather believed such examination took place. It appeared
hiM that the House bad a right to have the whole evidence
before them. The Hun. Alderman did not say that the in-
quiry must be tune into as a matter of course because the
-evidence was laid upon the table. He wished to know whether
the examination taken by order of Government would be pro-
duced for the information of the House.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said he did not mean the
slightest disrespect to the Hon. Alderman. He merely pointed
out what appeared to him to he the regular mode of proceed-
ing. With respect to any evidence taken before the Secretary
of State, it was as little a matter of course that it should be
laid upon the table as that taken before a Committee of the
Common Council.
1111...BENNET said the complaint was grievous and notori.
uus. Ministers had made inquiry into the subject, and he
thought it quite proper that the result of that inquiry should
be made known. It 'would he an act of discretion on the
part of Ministers to let the country know what the nature of
their case was, in a full and authentic manner. They ought
not, upon a subject of so much importance, to defend them-
selves, as the Noble Lord (Londonderry) often did, by pull-
ing letters from his pocket, and trading from them such
garbled extracts as. might suit his purpose. Ministers ought
to consider that there was another tribunal besides that
House or the Common Council—he meant the tribunal of
public opinion.
The Petition was ordered to be printed.
After a few words from Mr. Alderman WOOD and the
Marquis of LONDONDERRY, the former gave notice that be
would, on Monday next, move that the evidence taken be
fore the Committee of General Purposes, and the Repot
thereon, should be laid upon the table.
AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS.
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The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved the reading of
that part of his Majesty's most gracious Speech, which related
to Agricultural Distress, with a view to an order being made
for taking the same into consideration on Friday next. The
paragraph was read, and the order made accordingly.

IRISH INSURRECTION BILL.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved the Order of
the Day for the House resolving itself into a Committee upon
this Bill.
On the question being put, that the. Speaker should leave
the Chair :
Sir JOHN NEWPORT rose and said, that he understood
the Noble Marquis to say that the measures now before the
House were called for by the Noble Marquis at the head of the
Irish Government without modification.—(The Marquis of
Londonderry assented).—That Noble Marquis was entitled to
every confidence ; and he (SirJ.) was therefore disposed to waive
his opposition to-the Bill. Ile did so, from a conviction that, if
the House adopted any modification of the Bill, suggested by so
humble an individual as himself, and the Bill itself should be
found ineffectual, it might be said that the Bill would have been
found effectual had the modifications not been introduced.
He therefore should not say another word about modification ;
but he begged to declare his conviction, that the present Bill
would not effect its proposed object. He thought a law exe.
. cuted by troops.; and administered by judges, without prejudice
or passion, without resentment for the past, or unworthy in-
ducement for the future, would be the propel' measure, and the
one most likely to sacceed ; but ',won the ground only of Lord
Wellesley's asking for the present Bill, he agreed to it. He
begged to be allowed to make one observation upon what had
fallen from an Ilon. Member opposite (Mr. Dawson) in the
course of last night's debate, respecting his (Sir Jobn's) mo-
I don in the year 1817, for a Committee on Irish affairs, and re-
specting the opposition of an Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel) to
that motion. It was said, that he (Sir John) wanted to make
the office of Secretary a shop for the encouragement of com-
plaintsand grievances. Now he thought that if the motion had
no other merit than that which was attributed to it as a fault,-
that alone ought to have ensured its success ; for he considered
it highly important that the humbler classes should have that,
protection afforded them winch the rich could obtain for therri I
selves ; and it was his belief that had that motion been carried,
much good would have followed. Having repeated his confi-
dence in Lord Wellesley, and that he would use the power
given to him wisely and humanely, the Right Hon. Baroliet
sat down, observing that he should offer ne fuither opposition
to the Bill. -

Mr. DAWSON said, the observation respe-cting the Right
Honourable Baronet's desire to make the Secretary's Ogee a
shop for the encouragement of complaints was made, because
his Right Honourable Friend, the then Secretary, had sheWn
no indisposition to encourage Committees of Inquiry in that
House. If the Right Honourable Baronet conceived his mo-
tion on that occasion was of so much consequence to Ireland,
why had he not brought it forward before the passing of the
Insurrection Act, which he shortly afterwards supported ?
The Insurrection Act was passed in May, and the Right Hon.
Baronet did not move until June in the year in question.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT explained.
Lord FOLKESTONE, in rising to oppose the Bill, declar-
ed that there was no authority in that House to which he
would sooner refer than that of the Right Hon. Baronet.—
But as the Right Hon. Baronet had withdrawn his opposition
on account of his confidence in the Marquess Wellesley, a con-
fidence arising from an approbation of former conduct; and as
'he (Lord F.) had not that confidence, it followed that there was
nothing to alter his Apposition to the Bill. He was-astonished
at the decision to which a Majority had arrived last night. Ile
was astonished that the Gentlemen of England had so readily
consented to sacrifice the.liberties of their fellow-subjects. But
the practice of thus surrendering the Constitution was increas.
ing every day. It was the favourite practice of that House, but
it was not less the object of his indignation and horror. If that
Which was so valuable a part of the English Constitution were
abandoned on Wight grounds, what would be the unhappy conse-
quence ? A remarkable circumstance in the present subject,
was the delay which had taken plice in assembling Parliainpnt;