The Sun.
London, England, 1814-11-15 00:00:00

NAVY DEBT.

Mr; CHOKER preionto at the Iha an AcNoint of the Es,
tinnae of the Navy Debt to the :a)th of. Seinetnit-:.—pr
dero ttilie on the table,
.and to Toe'lnc,nted.

•. • coN-vEN•iIoN wrm 'AI.I,T Es.
The CHINCELLOI ,of the EXCHEQUER Presentei a
Paper containing,the substance of the Convention snupieintrn•
t:iry to the Treaties of Cha,nont and Par s, ahie v. i 3 -con-
- eldiled by their Majesties the Emperors of Russia and Anstria,
and King of Prussia, on the 27th 'uf:June, 1814.-;—Ordered't4i.
, lie on the table; and to be minted. .
The Seamen and- Marine.; Reward and F,ncoura4ement Bill
was. read a second time, on the, inotion of Mr. CaoicEit, and
ordered to be committed to-morrow.
COL. QUENTIN'S 'COURT-MART' FAL.

Col. PALMER deferred the :motion of 'whiclr Iw had given
notice for the production of a copy of the ploceedings on the
Court-Martial on Col. Omentin to ThAir
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY..

The CHANCE,I,LOR of the. EXCHEQUER moved the
Order of the Day for zoinx into a Committee t..)f Supply ; and
also that the,several Accool4s of the Nary pcbt, of l'..che-
quy'r Bills outstarrdidg., and Of Bills of Credit,- he referred
thereto.

On the question that the Sptialier do leave. the Chair being
put,
. _

Mr. TIERNEY complained that the House was to he called
upon to vote large sums of money without any information
whatever either as to their. amount, or the ,necessity there
was. at this moment for calling for thou.
of fht ExCt~F,QL~Iat replied, that
'it. ,I‘',allie.nCoftizi‘iiNs Ci.;il;t:(iLrLitfi)i.ittn
fir call tor'more th,ah would lie sufli
cieit' to cover about one.witli'on of arrear from lae~£ ear, nut!
to move the annual vote ufExchequer Bills, for lwayin!, alike
amount of- Exchequer ,Bills outstanding, which we're to he
-pand off, together with a pioiision fur Creditwhich
.the• Right Honourable Gentleman would. admit :ought to be
discharged.
The Ilouso then having resftivedinto the Committee;
Sir GEORGE fose to submit to the
Committee a propos-ition, as to the number of
seamen to be employed for the seryiee.of the en-
suing year. It would not be necessary for hint
to tresmtss at any len'gth upon the time of the
Committee in prefacing hi, motion. Under the
exit + ,•ireumstances of the country, and in con-
sequence of the continuance of the war with Ame-
rica, the Committee innst*be aware of the'policy
of keeping tip a large proportion of our naval
flrce, a ennsider4ble part of which was at present
employed, as welt rot the eninny's coast as in
manv 601' goarters of tbe world, protecting Bri-
tish trade, and that 'of the enemy. The
number of seamen he sluitdd oropose to vote was
'not -more tl,an-w-;uhl be sufficient for on' fleet
afliiat, The Hon. _Baronet concluded by moving,
that 70,000 seamen, including 15,000 marines, be
voted for the service- of the eusuing 'year. He lad
only to add, that this was-but one half the num-
ber voted last year. The qucstion was then put
and agreed to without oppOSition. A sum of
1,615,2501. was also proposed for wages for that
'meter, being ,it the rate of IL 15s. 6d. per month
per man, for thirteen months.
Mr. PowsONBY was Sure the G)rllntittee would
he of opinion that it would he somewhat satis-
'factory, heiore it should be called upOn -to vote
large stints of the public money, that 'some
statement should- -be submitted to the 'House
relative to the demands or the service, and the
particular objects to \Oriel] the sums prOnosed so
to -be voted were' to be applied. It is as now
:but a few days above three Months since Par-
liament had separated. At the close of the
last" Session, no HonourableMemher, he was
persnaded,. could at that time have foreseen,
that the House would be sit soon re-assent-
bird. What reason there Was for this early
meeting of Parliament he did not know. He
certainly coshl conjecture one, and the votes
which the House were now to be' called; on
to concur in, confirmed his conjecture. if he
were right in this sapposition, he could not con-
ceive any good reason why the Right Honourable
Gentleman hail not introduced the propositions
he was to bt'ing•forward in the Committee, With
a Statement of the general fiaaneial circumstances
of the cOuntry. He had read the speech from the
Throne several dines, in the hope that lie should
at last he able to discover in it some reason for
this premature meeting of Parliament. He was
not- ingenious enough, however, after repeated
trials, to trdee.-any-thing like a reason in it for
that production. ' He-was sure there was no
clnvtdual
nii)ir4eshetnlt),e,wtltit:lttec‘..oetti-11,11ischielxi itt(e)riteilnitcuel oa
if)
yPahri:'
stance in which tlrat House, after :having voted
such ample and extensive supplies as had been
bgrlettlitaegdailtaistfoSrethe
Session;
had been so hastily assent-
pnrpose of vetting more money'
without any statement being made of the applica-
tion of the former ,grans, 6r any explanation of
tia":airn6eteless
that it (
would 4 the f
. bettrtler(k impossible,n a
demands.
He was
nsistently
with 'a due regard to the public service, to oppose
the Vote then before the Committee. But as an
independent Member of Parliament he must-say,
that he would not willingly consent to :any vote
till he should have all the information usually
gbehtieino as::pdpcarrit'ivtg.---, ary•sllT he was to "justify any
Mem-
was up, he should take
that opportunity to advert to what 'he considered
very extraordinary proceedings. They had all
heard, if the reports were to be credited, of the
exceptionable manner in which a communication
.was made to certain parties, that it was not in
the 'contemplation of Ministers to-contract for
any loan previous to Christmas. They had all
known that ttere had been many meetings of the
most respectable merchants of the City of Lon-
-1 dun, on the subject of a measure which they re