The Sun.
London, England, 1849-09-07 00:00:00

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SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock.

sold to the female prisoner. He recognised it by the
mark upon it in his own handwriting.
By Mr. Solomons—The mark on the shovel is
Is. 31.

Mr. Lockwood, the surgeon, was re-called—Look
BERMONDSEY MURDER.
at that crowbar (produced). Suppose that were five
THIS DAY. inches longer, might the wounds on the body of Mr. )
O'Connor have been inflicted by such an instrument ?
RE-EXAMINATION OF
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THE MANNINGS —They might probably have been inflicted by such an
AT SOUTHWARK POLICE-COURT. instrument. The thin part could not have produced
Neither the vicinity of the court, nor the interior the incised wound.
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of it, was crowded so much as it was yesterday ; [The shovel was handed to him.]
and, altogether less excitement and bustle prevailed. The witness said it was not now in a state in
The van arrived with the prisoners about ten mi-
which he could pronounce an opinion.
nutes before eleven o'clock, the female alighting it P—l found one hair,
Did you find any hair upon
first, and the male afterwards ; and they were kept but I think it was too long o have belonged to a
in the gaoler's-room nearly a quarter of an hour man.
Mr. Thomas Adams, pawnbroker, of 171 and 172,
before they were brought into court.
Bermondsey-street, was next examined —Does not
The Lord Mayor sat on the right of Mr. Seeker,
and in the space surrounding the magistrate's desk, know either Mr. or Mrs. Manning. Saw them in
court yesterday, but could not recognise them.
several clergymen and other gentlemen were accom- Mr. Charles Bainbridge, broker, of 14, Bermondsey-
modated with seats. A considerable number of
ladies were also among the auditory, some of whom square, deposed that he knew the prisoners. Had
knownthem for about two months. The
however, owing to the smallness of the court were
had provided themselves with opera glasses, which,
witness
sale of the furniture in his house, 3, Minver-
brought in, and the male prisoner immediately after-
spoke to Manning calling:upon him about
entirely unnecessary. The female prisoner was first
the
Place, and its purchase by him ; also to the conver-
wards, and they were placed in the same position sation with respect to lending money on Mr. Massey's
m
that they occupied yesterday at each end of the medical certificate, and on the Monday after the
dock. A considerable change was observed in the murder that he had started his wife off to the
appearance of Manning, who looked ill and very pale. country. He had a bottle of brandy with him, and
Mr. Edwin, addressing him, said—lt is understood slept at his house that night, having previously taken
a lodging with him. lie said he wished the goods
you are not well, you may sit down in a chair.
which he had bought to be removed to his (witness's)
The prisoner said, 61 Yes, I am very unwell," and
'
immediately took a seat to to the right of his solicitor, the next morning at five o clock. Said it
Mr. Binns, whose movements in taking notes of the would look bad as he had paid the rent. (He had
evidence he closely watched. showed him the receipt.) There were fifteen pieces
of unbleached linen, and some other articles not in-
Mrs. Manning, on entering the court, looked as
if she had been crying, but she soon regained her eluded amongst those he had bought. Manning
former appearance. She stood during the whole morn-
asked him to take care of them until he came back
ing, leaning lightly upon the dock, and kept her veil up. from the country, whither he was going for three
Mr. Bodkin, shortly after entering the court, rose house in the
months. He went on the Wednesday to take pos-
and said—l now beg to state that I have considered session of them, when he found the
the application which I understand was made on the ' ossession of the police. The shovel produced was
amongst the things he bought.
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part of one of the prisoners, with the assent of the
Cross-examined by Mr. Bodkin—There was ano-
other, that this matter should not be tried at the next
ther shovel amongst them, it was not broken; he
session of the Central Criminal Court, on the ground
had it at home.
that there will not be time enough for those engaged
By Mr. Bodkin—The other shovel belonged to a
in the arduous task of defending the prisoners to make
set of fire irons. There were two or three hundred
the necessary preparations. I have given to this
weight of coals in the cellar.
application the best consideration, and on the whole
By Mr. Solomons—The shovel was used at his
I am not disposed to offer any opposition to the course
which has been suggested ; and it will now be under-
house before it was given up to the police.
stood that such a remand as the law permits will be
(Mrs. Manning here took off her visite, which is
made, so as to go over the next session of the a very heavy, thick one. This exposed the shape of
Central Criminal Court. her figure, which is very good. We may remark
Richard Walsh, called and examined by Mr. Bod-
that she wears a large bustle.)
kin, said —He was in the service of Mr. Wells, a Mrs. Bainbridge deposed that among the things
builder, whose place of business, in Russell-street, left with her husband were some female dresses'
Bermondsey, is about four or five minutes' walk from stockings, &c. One of them had been washed, ap-
Minver-place. About the end of July, the 23d he parently, and scorched in one place, and put
thought, a man came and ordered a bushel of lime. away wet, for it was mildewed. Manning
Look round the court and see if you can recognise went away on the Wednesday in a cab, and she had
the man.—That (pointing to Manning) is the man, never seen him since. Before that day he said he
the prisoner at the bar. Heard him tell .I.l,liss Wells, was going sea bathing. She said to him " When
who is out of town, that he was to take the lime to shall I have the pleasure of seeing you again?" He
his house. He took it to Minver-place on the 25th. said in about two months. He said his wife had left
Saw the prisoner there, and shot it in the her a satin dress and some other articles in the house,
back kitchen, by his direction, into another which she found was the case. (The dress, a striped
basket, which the prisoner pointed out to cotton one, was produced. It appeared to have been
him. He did not give him anything. No converse- stained or scorched in two or three places in the lower
tion passed between us. Mrs. Manning gave him part of the front. There were some faint stains on
something on the day following. He did not see the lining close to one of the sleeves.) It seemed to
anybody but Manning when he took the lime. He have been altogether washed.
went the next day, because Manning had promised 'William Kirk, the cabman who drove Mrs. Man-
him something for himself. Mrs. Manning opened ning to the station of the South-Eastern Railway,
the door, and gave him lld. Had no further conver- where the boxes with the cards were left, repeated his
sation with the prisoner. previous testimony, and identified Mrs. Manning.
RIAGISTRATE—Did Manning tell you to come at a William Day, the porter at the Brighton station,
particular time ?—He did not. who took down the boxes from the cab driven by
By Mr. Solomons—Mrs. Manning gave him the Kirk on the 13th of August, and nailed on the ad-
lid. on the next day (the Friday). He had never dress cards, " Mrs. Smith, Passenger to Paris," re-
seen her before. Not a word passed between him peated his evidence, as given in this court on the first
and Mrs. Manning when he called. Does not know examination of Mrs. Manning. He said—l believe
the person that gave him the lid. He could not that is the person (pointing to the female prisoner)
swear that the prisoner was the woman. The door who hired me.
was not opened far. William Dyne, the clerk in the cloak-room, also
By Mr. Bodkin—The woman was tall, but did not went over his former evidence.
take particular notice of her. She was not so tall as Mr. John Haynes, inspector of police, said he
Manning. searched the two boxes left by the female prisoner al
William Cahill, in the service of Mr. Langley, the London-bridge station, and found that they con-
ironmonger, of 46, Tooley- street, deposed as follows, tained chiefly women's wearing; apparel, table-
examined by Mr. Bodkin :—He sold shovels ; his place cloths, and sheets. Among the articles was a skirt of
of business is about a quarter of a mile from Minver- a dress, in the interior lining of which were several
place. Sold a shovel to a female on Wednesday, the marks of blood. The body of the dress appeared to
Bth of August. Had since seen the female. have been recently washed. (This dress, besides
Who was she ?—Mrs. Manning. two toilet covers and a :piece of muslin, which
Do you mean the prisoner, standing there P—l do. had splashes of blood upon them, were produced.)
'What did she say ?—She said she wanted a shovel On the 31st August I was at Southampton on the
—a dust one with a short handle. She said else arrival of the packet from Jersey. I went on board
wished for a strong one. Asked her if she would of it, and I found the male prisoner there in company
have one with a long handle. She said a short- with Sergeant Langley and other officers. I travelled
handled one would do. She bought one of those I with the prisoner that night by the train to
showed her. Had seen it since. She paid fourteen-
London. On the way he entered into conver-
pence for it. She was in the shop four or five sation with me. He asked me if I had seen his
minutes. Had seen her before. She said he was to wife ? I told him I had not ; and I then
send it to 3, Minver-place, to a person named said to him "This is a serious affair, Manning. lam
Manning. Took it there at seven the same day. Mee, a police officer; don't say anything to me that will
Manning answered the door. Merely delivered it to Prejudice yourself." He said, "I am perfectly aware
her, as she had paid for it when she bought it. Had of all that. I was very foolish to go away; I ought
seen the shovel in the possession of an officer named to have stopped and explained." He then asked me
Sepp, and it was the same one. if I thought I should see his wife to-morrow
Cross-examined by Mr. Solomons—The prisoner (that was the next day). I told him I did not
said she wanted a shovel for coals. She made no know, but I thought not. He said, "If I could
allusion to any shovel; she had had an accident with one see her in the presence of a magistrate and a clergy-
at home. Would solemnly swear that she did not man she would confess all ; it was her that shot
say the one she had at home was broken. Referred O'Connor."
her to a sort of shovel or spade with a long handle, Mr. Solomons submitted that this was no evidence
but she said she would make a short-handled one do. against the female prisoner.
It was a common coal shovel. Cannot recollect The MAGISTRATE said he was bound to hear what
whether the prisoner said it was for coals and for the formed a part of a complete statement which was
fire-place. She said it was for coals. made by one of the prisoners.
Sepp, who has the shovel, was called, but was not Mr. Solomons said it could not be denied that this
in attendance. evidence would very much prejudice the case of Mrs.
William Denby, examined by Mr. Bodkin— Manning. It was quite new to him to take a state-
Was porter to Messrs. Evans, King William-street, meat like this of a husband against a wife.
London-bridge. Remembered selling what is called Witness's examination continued—Manning added
a " ripping" chisel, or crowbar, on the 25th of that it was she who shot him; that she invited him
July. (A model, but a little shorter, was produced, to dinner, laid the cloth, and shot him as she was
and caused much sensation.) The one he sold was as walking behind him down stairs. He also said he
stout, but 22 inches long. The one produced was had often been afraid of his own life
only 17. It was sold to a man. through her violent conduct, and that on one
Do you see that man here ? Yes, he is the pri- occasion she ran after him with a drawn knife, and
soner Manning. that she would think no more of killing a" man than
It was sold by Mr. John Evans. The man did not she would of killing a cat. He said that O'Connor
say what he wanted it for. lam quite sure the pri- had induced them to take the house in Minver-place,
soner is the person. He ordered it to be sent to 3, and that he had promised to come and lodge
Minver-place, and wrote his name down as Manning. with them ; that they laid out 301. to
Inspector Yates produced the paper. furnish the house ; that he was out of town at
Witness—That is
.the paper. Saw -the prisoner the time the house was furnished, and that when he
write, and where the crowbar was to be sent home the returned his wife said that O'Connor had only slept
paper was given to me. Took it home on the after-- at the house one night, that he had left, and that he
noon of the 28th. It was exposed. The prisoner met would not lodge there any more, and that she was
him on London-bridge. He asked him if he was, determined to be revenged upon him. When he said
going to his house with the crowbar. Answered. O'Connor was shot by his wife, I said it appeared
" Yes." He said, " Paper seems very scarce with that there were a great many wounds upon the head.
you ;it might have been papered up." Said, "he He made no observation to that, but afterwards
would have papered it, had he known it was required,, seemed very low spirited.
but we don't usually paper such things." Walked on. Cross-examined by Mr. Binns—Manning had
to Tooley-street, where the prisoner bought a spoken to me before I said "this is a serious affair,
sheet of brown paper, in which he (witness) Manning." He asked me about his wife. Langley
wrapped it up. The prisoner asked the shop- and Lockyer were present at the time. I certainly
keeper for a piece of string, which was produced, did not make the observation for the pur-
and witness tied it up. lie walked with the ' pose of drawing him out or inducing him
witness to the corner of the street, where he left ,to snake a statement. I certainly did
him after pointing the way to his home, sa '
yieg h e not receive any directions from my superior
was not
going home, and that there was a person there officers to enter into a conversation with Manning!
who would pay for it. A. stout female opened the This conversation took place about ten minutes after
door.
1 'we left Southampton, when we were near Basing.
stoke. There was a great deal of other conversation
between him and me, not with respect to the murder,
but it had some reference to it. I was not asleep during
.any part of the journey. The prisoner did not sleep ;
he appeared quite awake and lively. I sat opposite to
.him in the train. 'We arrived at Vauxhall station at
'ten o'clock, and we brought the prisoner in a cab to
the stationhere, which occupied about twenty minutes.
My statement with respect to what the prisoner said
'was taken down last night by Mr. Hayward, of the
Treasury, at my own house.
The witness was further cross-examined and re-
e:camined with respect to his having talked over the
statement of Manning with his brother officer, but
nt)thipg important was elicited.
Mr. Sergeant Langley, of the detective force, was
next examined—He said his attention was first called
to this murder on the 17th of August,
and: up to the 231 he had been incessantly em-
played with reference to it. On the 24th of August
he went to !Jersey in company with Lockyer, an-

Have you seen her since ?—Yes ; she is the female
prisoner. She asked him where he had brought it
from, and he told her. He gave her the bill. She
said it was charged rather more than the price agreed
upon whenlit was ordered. Told her it weighed
rather more, and took father longer to make than was
supposed. She paid the money without any further
remark.

By Mr. Solomons —This took place on the afternoon
of the 28th of July. had not seen the prisoner since.
Only saw her a few minutes.

Now, sir, having seen her only for a few minutes,
do you mean to solemnly swear that she was the
party ?—I do swear it solemnly.
Sepp, 162 M, produced the shovel. Found it in
the house on the 27th of August. There are marks
of mortar upon it. On furthering examining it,
found marks of congealed blood, human hair, and
ashes. Some of the hair was removed_by Mr. Lock-
wood at the inquest.

%Yw. Cahill identified.:the shovel as the one he 44