The Sun.
London, England, 1838-10-10 00:00:00

SELIzaT OF THE PCILIC JOURNALS

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Our Ministerial and Antiatciinisterisl Coiiteraporaries
for the last few days carried on a very furious though very
fruitless contest, in reference to the conduct of Ministers
in not carrying into effect the appropriation principle in the
Irish Tithe Bill. The incorporation of this principle in the i
recent Act would have undoubtedly been the recegeition
of a great right ; but as the Act itself cannot be regarded
otherwise than as one of a temporary character, hnportant I
"48 the omission may be as a test of Ministerial consistency,
it is of very little consequence—at least, the proposed ex-
tont of the appropriation is of very little consequence I
—to the practical working of the tithe system in Ireland. ,
However necessary it may be for the Irish Members tell°
supported the Tithe Bill, without the appropriation clause,
to offer some explanation of their vote, the conduct
of Ministers scarcely needs any explaaatien what-
ever. The principle was eriginally carried only by a
small majority in one branch of the Legislature, the
other branch scouted it with the expression of iissuper-
able abhorrence ; Ministers boldly announced their firm ti
adherence to their original position, though, to avoid colli-
sion, they suffered the question to rest in abeyance. and in
this proceeding they bad the support of the greet leety of
the Irish Repro santatices. If it were injudicious, therefore,
to sink for the time the question of appropriation, the fault
rests not so much with Ministers as with the Liberal Irish
Members. It is the first duty of Ministers to conciliate,
if possible, all parties, by every means not involtnng a di-
rect compromise of principle. And though in far too many
instances the present Ministry have carried this rule of ac-
tion to a culpable extreme, their conduct on the appro-
priation question needs no further justification thee the
totes of the Liberal Members of Ireland. If there be
treason in the suspension of the appropriation principle, it is
the Irish Members, and not the Ministers, who are guilty
of it. Who, so well and so effectively, were to be expected
to give legitimate expression to the feeli,qts of ttie Irish
people as their chosen Representatives? Mini,ters were
placed as moderators between two hosts inveterately hostile
to each other, and the Irish Repreeutatives having con-
sented to certain terms of compromise—and no doubt an
understanding existed before the Bill was introduced—it
was not for Ministers to urge them to is,sist upon the en-
forcement of more favourable terms. This would have
been to put off the character of arbitrators and assume
that of partisans. This exposition at once and for ever
sets et rest the question of Ministerial consistency on the
appropriation principle. With regard to the' Act itself, it
would be folly to consider it a permanent or satisfactory
saljestment of the question. It is from begimaing to end
based on fallacies. Mr. O'Connell has lately endeavoured
to point out some advantages to be expected from it ; but
a reference to that gentleman's former letters and speeches
will confirm the correctness of our opinion of its inadequacy
and injustice, more forcibly than any arguments we could
ourselves adduce in their support. The conversion of tithes
into a rent charge, and the effect of their reduction on the
relations of landlords, parsons, sad tenants, we shall reserve
fur future discussion.—Morning Advertiser.
Some of our Contemporaries are very warmly engaged
in a discussion which, taken abstractedly, admits of none
—viz., whether education is calculated to diminish crime.
Were the question asked " Has it as yet, in this country,
had that effect ?" we fear the answer might not be so ob-
vious. The pious wish of George 111., that every man,
woman, and child in his dominions might be able to read
the Bible, comprises a sentiment in which persons of all
sects and persuasions—if we except the most bigoted of the
Roman Catholics---would, it may be imagined, readily join ;
and it is much to be regretted that such, as yet, is far from
being the case. But still the fact that education among the
lower orders has of late years made considerable strides, is
undeniable, and the question, therefore, remains to be
answered why a proportionate increase of morslity, and
a diminution of crime, have not followed it. We
fear the question is to be thus answered—that the
abuse of education has in a great measure ceunteracted
its use ; and this by means of the many infamous pub-
lications with which every town, and half the villages,
are inundated. It is almost. in vain that the lower
orders are taught to read, if such is the mental food
with which their appetite for knowledge is to be satiated.
It is in vain that schools inculcate the truths of religion
and a reverence for the Sabbath, who n i the shape of
certain Sunday papers, stamped and urs tamped, a tide of
irreligion and immorality is let in, suffiiient to drown and
extirpate all the good seed which education, ~..s sown. Ig-
norance is bliss in comparison of the hateful sort of know-
ledge, if such it. can be called, which the publicatious in
question inculcate. Before, then, education can be ex-
pected to produce its useful results, its mischievous ones
must be met and defeated. We are not for seeing any
trammels placed upon the Press that cats be avoided ; but
as the abuses of the best things are those which produce the
worst consequences, why should the uses and blessings of
education be thus frittered away, that the panders to all
that is infamous may prosper at the expense of public and
private virtue ? This is the evil which prevents education
from checking crime ; and as long as it lasts crime may be
expected to increase rather than diminish. But take away
the cease, and the effects will cease. Let tha use of edu-
cation supersede the abuse, and we shall soon witness its
effects in the diminution of crime by the increase of moral
and religious principles and habits among the people,—
Morning Herald.
It is observable from the tone of the Whig Journals, both
in town and country, as well as from their selection of news,
that a scheme is on foot—nothing short of villanous—the
object of which is to raise the price of bread-corn far beyond
what existing circumstances justify. In the London Papers
to which we allude, there may be seen not only exaggerated
accounts of a gloomy character, as respects the harvest,
from various parts of the United Kingdom, but also state-
ments from the Continent, leading to the supposition that
the supply is very short there, and unequal to the satisfying
of any extraordinary demand from this country. In the
Provincial Papers we see leading articles devoted to the
express purpose of creating an alarm of scarcity, and yet,
clumsily enough, directly recommending a course which
must aggravate the evil represented, if any such did exist,
namely, that all farmers who can afford to hold over their
stocks of grain for some months should do so, for the sake of
the better prices which their kind advisers tell them they will
be sure then to obtain. This villainy has no doubt a
double purpose. There is a political object and a mer-
cantile object. The landed interest is to be injured by
creating a state of circumstances which it is conceived will
bring the Corn-laws into popular odium ; and a knot of
jobbing capitalists are to be served, who hope to snake
enormous gains by forcing the people to pay a high price
for the immense stocks of corn which have been purchased
up on speculation. And here it is worthy of remark that
these same speculators—most of them Quakers—who are
now straining their immense money power to the utmost,
for the purpose of making corn dear, and Riling their own
pockets at the expense of every family in the kingdom that
consumes bread—these speculators are almost all Liberals
in politics, and exceedingly vociferous upon all public occa-
sions that popular privesges should be enlarged. Doca not
this villainous misrepresentation which they have set on
foot throughout the country, for the purpose of plaguing
and plundering the people with an artificial scarcity,
show very clearly the real nature of the liberality of
these men ? Does it not show how little they care for
the substan! i=d good of the people, even when they are
clamouri-lf :o the people's name for political changes ?
Their so:e object is to serve themselves. They wish for
political changes which will add to their personal conse-
quence ; and as they can only hope to obtain such changes
by means of the people's voice, they represent that ti,ese
changes will bent it the multitude, and they pretend that
for the sake of the multitude they ought to he made.
Again they wish to make fur themselves an enormous pro-
fit upon their stocks of corn, and though this can only be
13Ltaitied out of the pockets of the people, who are the
consumers, they do not hesitate to resort so misrepresen-
tation and wicked counsel, to the end that the ordinary
supply of the corn markets may be withheld, and that the
bread consumers may be made to pay dear for the stores
which these designing Liberals have accumulated !
We affirm again, as we base affirmed before, that
there is now as large a quantity of wheat in this
country open to the consumers as Oleic has been open
an average of years at this time. The -real difference
is in the quantity under bond. For some years past the
stock of foreign wheat was not taken out of bond, and as
far its market price was concerned, might as well hate been
in Africa as in England.. Granting that there has been a
slight deficiency in the supply from our own fields, as
compared with the average, it has been already more than
made up by the
supply
_which has_ passed the Custom
.
House. Allowing the deficiency to be so much as seven
per cent., or say one-fourteenth of the whole, this ought to
be balanced by an advance of rather less than three far_
thing upon the average
price of the four-pound loaf for the
last three years. If the people have to pay any more it
will be either because they eat moreeroartiboteicatousme tanibtaegnei
is taken of circumstances and exagg
pay into the pockets of the holders of wheat a larger re mu-
neration than hitherto they be i
e Paid. Let it be borne in
mind that the principal part of the foreign supply has come
in duty tree, or the next thieg to it, namely, ore shilling per
quarter. This arises from tie carefulness
nooft
prevent an excessive price. If the people do
benefit of this excellent law they may the
obtainl agthte
Mende, the cern speculators.--Morning Foil.
" liberal
Although the accounts received after our observations
on the. French and Swiss quarrel, which app the
Times of yesterday, l!ad been pr:nted, would see rather ed in
to
shake than confirm th.t confidence in the speedy and
peaceful settlement of the dispute which this concurring
op. -a newspapers and private letters lid one and all
inspired, and which we assumed for certain in our own
reriarlo,--all4 although the wows in the French Papers

received this morning meek somewhat of hostilities,—we
coefess our repugnance.. witheut much shoot r and ttlera
authentic evidence, to believe the possibility- that one of the
parties concerned will be mad enough to push to extremes a
question which can be (lisp:T(l of, for all practical purposes,
by mild and equitable proceedings. No attempt has been
made to vindicate en at v acknowledged ground of political
morality this demand put forth by France for the expulsion
of the young Buonaperte. As little has any progress
been made towards coeviticiog the world that the King
of the French would '"-tin one pennyworth of real ad-
vantege by compelling Switzerland to remove the ex• Pre-
tender by force. Our opidod we hate before stated
—vie., that the voluntary departure of Louis Napoleon
from the cantons ought to be hail d by the King of the
French as a providential escape to himself ( Louis Philippe)
from an entharrassmeet, out of which no act of his owe
could, under any supposable circumstances, have wrought
a successful extrication. It is this which must lead any
rational mind to the conclusion that the threat. ned warfare
is on the point of being satisfaetetely averted. There
seems to be a general admission, that the disturber of
Louis Philippe's tracnuiiiity has received, or is now oh
taining, his passports, and is es good as out of Seitzei-
land. By what impulse of outrageous folly, therefore, can
we imagine the French Got erunteut to be actuated, should
it pursue the phantom of a provocation or an injury, after
the substance of it has ceased? What more effectual
result could be ars:ved at by the most victorious cam.
paign or campaigns on oart of France, thee the young
man's removal front tl:e Swiss territory ? What a per-
verse and odious ambition is it that would take up-arms
after the offending person had withdrawn front tl,e spot, his
occupancy of which had Teen the alleged e.iuse of quarrel,
and not ;ay do n its arms until a sort of post obitum sen-
tence bad been pronounce(.—a sentence of superfluous ba-
ni,lin-:ent against him who was already a voluntary exile I
Is it not warring. with the dead?—and if vtith the living,
to what purpose? Assurer that a vote of banishment had
been passed ag,einst Louis littpaleou by the eantons, what
is to he the guarantee that such a sentence would never at
any future titce be ret.citn!cel ? Will it make this conspi-
I rv.tor, if he be still a conspirator (of which no proof has
been offered), against the Crown of the Barricades,
one [article a less rife ctive or dangerous disturber of
the peace of France at Dover, whore he may hence-
! forth take tip his domicile, if he likes it—to have
a decree of banishment recorded against him from
Switzerland—than to ho at Dover of' his orm free will ? Is
not the south coast of Kent, whence a finking-boat or
steamer may any winter evening land a passenger within
three or lour hours—is such a point not a far more mena-
cing position for this adventurer than any portion of the
Swiss, or Sardinian, or Belgic, or Spanish frontier? The
thing is a gross folly on the part of Louis Philippe. It is,
besides, as we have before stated, an aggression upon the
rights of an independent country. Louis Philippe is by
the law of nations net. authorised to do more than require
that any Pretender to his Crown, past or present, shad be
prohibited by a neighbouring Government, under Ishich he
seeks shelter, from preparing hostile enterprises against that
of France, and before long it will b clearly seen that such
is the construction of in raationel law approved and
acted on by the Governna at of this very Louis Philippe.
Nothing is more [robable than that if young Louis
Napoleon has realty been cngaged in plots or prepara-
tions for the . diiturbance of the Orleans dynasty while in
Switzerland, he will resume them here, atter landing on
British ground, by virtue of British passports. Will Louis
Philippe then be unwise enough to issue to Great Britain
the seine mandate as to Set-itzerland—" Banish him front
your territory, or I will collect an army and a fleet at Bou-
logne for the invasion of Eneland !" 'That this King of
the French might do so with impunity so far as the Mel-
bourne Cabinet are concerned, we do not mean to deny ;
but he might also chance to raise the people of England,
and that is a risk which not even the most orthodox con-'
struction of the law of nations would encourage our worthy
ally to run. But if when Lows Napoleon shall have
reached this country, and shall have resumed the thread
of his machination, as Pretender, the King of the French
does not pursue the l.kc peremptory course of requi-
sition for his banishment that he has pursued towards
Switzerland, it will then be manifest to the whole
world that the law of itnagiced might, not the law of right,'
is that which Louis Philippe sets up for his rule of action ;
and that either his conduct towards Switzerland has been
that ef a bully, or towards England that of a pol-roote
We see that some considerable stress has been laid upon
the professions of Prince Metternich and other Ministers:
of the Continental Powers, that they approve in the pre-
sent case of the demands insisted on by France against
Switzerland. To be sure, in words there will be some
plausible appearance of sympathy with a king de flictu,
however secretly disliked in his measures against a rest-
less intriguer, the organ and instrument of a military,
predatory, revolutionary fac'ion, still more tb-tested by
hereditary potentates than the barricade Monarch. But
bow far beyond mere words will such legitimate toot-
tleholders proceed in their support of Louis Philippe?
That they would rejoice to see him mine i,ed with
Switzerland, or
.Mexico, or the United States, or England,
or any power in any quarter of the gi Abe that might dis-
tract or cripple the troublezome nation of which he is the
temporary ruler, is plain and sufficiently credible ; but we
repeat, that further than assurances, and perhaps incen-
tives, the great Powers of the Continent will not budge to
save Louis Philippe or France herself from destruction.
Why indeed should they—what, under any form of Go-
vernment, or any change of masters—what, we say, are
the merits of France that should induce the great monar-
chies of continental Europe to sweat or bleed, or court per-
plexities for her profit ? We are 'nevertheless inclined to
hope that Louis Philippe has really got clear of this predi-
cament, and that the brave, and free, and virtuous, and
peaceful republicans may be left undisturbed amidst their
mountains.—Times.

LAW INTELLIGEjCICE.

INSOLVENT DEBTORS' COURT, O•s. 9.

Julius Hutchinson, Esq. whose case lately appeared in
The Sun, again came up. In this case, in which the debts
and liabilities exceeded 95,0001., the qu. stion was, whether
Robert Montgomery, E:q., would adopt the opposition made
on the part of the Rev. Charles Cobb Beresford, who was in-
terested, in right of his wife, under the will of Sir George
Montgomery, Bart., and under which will Mr. Robert Mont-
gomery was executor. The cnmpiaint Was in relation to the
disposal of part of the Trust Find. A letter was put in evi_
donee, in which Mr. Montgomery disclaimed opposing the
discharge of Mr. Hutchinson.
Mr. C. PHILLIPS, in supp,xt of the opposition, prayed for
further time to communicate with Mr. Montgomery.
Mr. Cooxa contended that Mr. Hutchinson was entitled
to b.f. discharged.
Mr. Commissioner BOWEN entertained a different opinion.
He should grant further time, in order that Mr. Montgomery
might be fully informed of the situation in which 'le was
placed:
The case was adjourned, owing to the vacation, until the
Ist of November.

Samuel Baker, who had been a wine and spirit merchal t,
at Birmirgham, was, on the opposition of Mr. Goldie, dis-
tiller, of Whitechapel, and Alossrs. Morri9, remanded, froth
his petition, fora period of two years, for his fraudulert
conduct.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.

MANSION- HO USE

Yesterday a young man, named John Williams, a boy, nine
years of age, named Joseph IVitiains, and two girls, shamed
Mary Harrison and Emr Cripps, were brought up before
the Lotto MATO', charged by a policeman with having fol-
lowed gentlemen in the streets with the intention of picking
their pockets.
of It would
principala p se fromaort,frct s
girls t one
had i
was, to instruct the little le,y in the mystery of the trade, and
a curious incident was noticed in the experinheets made by the.c
Ns:oall'negrnemnatnorantdhetleinteweor9
child. He went behind a gentleePth,
pocket in such a mannor h,s attrixted the notice of th• person
on whom the attempt was made. John Will ems immedi.eely
and turned up tn
reproved the boy for his awkwardness, and gave him a sound-
ing slap in the face. Oa they went, trying the passers-by
whenever an ot-portunity occurred, and upon every attempt
the girls screened the little boy, who, however, did
_not suc-
ceed in " drawing the clout." He, however, gave proof of
his skill by stealing behind his principal instructor, and whip-
ping a tobaco.pipe out of his coat pock,:t without awakening
any suspicion. The whole squad, Ending that they were no-
ticed by the police, began to run, but were secured. -
Another policeman, who had been watching their movements,
core:idered that the young man was cacti-ing the boy by send-
ing him round to crib the tob hero-pipe, the elensent.ry part
of the education, of a prin.' being limited to tests upon the skilful
professors themselves. One of the girls said in a rage, at the
poor child's awkwarrines3, " Give it him, Jack, over the nob,
for being sich a Johnny Raw."
The LORD MAYolt remanded all the pr'soners, with direc-
tions to the gaoler to keep the boy away from his depraved
associati3.

BOW-STREET.
Jane. Dibbins, a pretty and 17:thy-looking girl, of ab9ut
IS, was, charged by the rirlli.e wit 11 having been found wander-
ing in Clare-market, baring 1 g neither home nor friends to go to.
Sir F. boa--What you to Bay for yourself? JilllC
Dibbins—l came toa tioul'ilcnsetlfrohm . Pill, near Bristol, for the
purpose of getting
been out of employ for
three month-. I have an uncleainintOwn, who is a painter, and
when he ia,it *rote he toad us that he lied at 87, Clare.rnar-
ket, and that he mould het me al but I did not write to
tell him I was coming. I left f'iallee ;
on Friday morning, and
quitted Bristol in the waggtat f. r
yesterdaytown
, Saman tdourrt,lidhal yg . I morning.paid
an iced in Loadon about three
t?,o driver of the waggon 12i,,,,tri.miya•tf,:trtehe
vv,:i..othi e
twayi.up
he took :ieveral poo;- I:.1...11
little re: and s.l(,:p. T'oJi left the waggon a', aioi eilr%
hear
mr
ill
.he
recrai9e., ,„ Llt,. f v, us asleep, and when I awoke, .1'
fours thnil the clothes I possessed, had
h s ors to r
ret my box, CuaLaiii,iiii