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London, England, 1831-07-19 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

On the SPEAKER taking his seat several new Members
were introduced and sworn in, among whom was Mr.
Crompton, Solicitor• General for Ireland.
Mr. lamb brought up some returns of the population.
Mr. W. WI NN objected to the time that was chosen
to lay those returns before the House ; they ought to have
been presented earlier, so that every Member might have
had a copy.
The SPEAKER said a few words, which were inaudible
in the gallery, and the subject dropped.
The SPEAKER acquainted the House that Sir Robert
Gunning had failed to enter into the necessary recogniz-
ances to prosecute his petition against the return for North-
ampton.

The order was then discharged.
At the Suggestion of Lord STAN LEV, Lord MOB YETII
postponed his motion of which he had given notice, rela-
tive to the proceedings of Private Committees from to-
morrow until Monday.
On the motion of Mr. Alderman THOMPSON, the House
resolved itself into a Committee on Trower's Divorce Bill.
That occasioned some discussion, in which several Members,
including Mr. Hume, Alderman Thompson, and Lord G.
Osborne took part.

Mr. HUME strongly reprobated the manner in
which Divorce Bills were smuggled through the House,
but said that he would not oppose this Bill, be-
cause it would be punishing an individual for the
evils of a system.—(Hear.) He should however on future
Occasion oppose every Bill of this kind, and that would
perhaps have the effect of inducing his Majesty's Ministers
to introduce some remedy.
On the motion of Lord Monewrit, the Sheffield and
Manchester Rail-road Bill was read a third time and
passed.
Col. EVANS gave notice, that to-morrow he would move
that an address be presented to his Majesty, praying him
to lay before the House copies of the indictment against
Mr. and Mrs. Deacle, (who recovered damages a few days
a,,ta against Mr. Bingham Baring and others at the Hamp-
shire Assizes), of the record, and of the Judge's notes.
Mr. BURGESS presented a petition from the freemen
of Hyde (we believe) against such parts of the Reform
8111 as affected their rights,
Mr. D. W. HARVEY presented two petitions, one from
the borough of Aldborough (the first in Schedule A), the
other from Harwich, in favour of the Reform Bill, which
were read, and ordered to he printed. The Hon. Member
then moved for a return of the amount that was in the
hands of the Treasurer ;o Queen Anne's bounty at the
time of his decease, and whether the security he gave
was applicable to the ►e-payment of that balance;
also a return of the number of cases (and the names of
parties) in which the Crown bad administered to the
estates of testator having no heirs since the year 1800,
the nature of the property, and what proceedings had
been taken thereon in the courts of law.

Mr. JEPHSON presented a petition from the borough of
Mallow, in Ireland, in favour of the Reform Bill ; a peti-
tion from the parish of Witcliurch, in the county of the
city of Cork, prayinc, that a fund might be made appli-
cable to support the aged and infirm, and thereby
afford employment to the poor, and that that fund might
be raised out of church property, and a tax upon absen-
tees. The Hon. Member also presented petitions from the
Roman Catholic inhabitants of the parish of Cburchtown
and other parishes in the diocese of Cloyne against the
grant to to the Kildare-street Society.

Nlr. MINI' presented a petition from some place in
Lancashire praying or annual Parliaments, universal
suffrage, vote by ballot, and a repeal of the Corn Laws.
The Hon. Member also presented a petition horn the in-
habitants of Stockport, for universal suffrage and annual
Parliaments.

Captain GORDON presented a petition from the
shipowners of Dundalk, against the tax on marine
insurances. Also a petition from Glasgow and its neigh-
bourhood, amongst whom were twenty-eight ministers,
one hundred and eleven elders, and a number of other
subscribers of respectability, against the grant by Govern-
ment to Miynooth College.
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petitionbeing read,
O'CONNELL asked whether its gross and unmiti-
gated describing the Roman Catholic religion
indecency
and anti-christian system," was re-
that House, and whether it should be received.
FERGUSSON rejoiced that there were now
few who would put their names to a petition like
the present; and he trusted that few would be found
in that House to sanction it. In place of withdrawing
this grant by Government to the Maynooth Institution
no distinction ought to he made between Protestants and
Roman Catholics ; the latter should enjoy every pri.•
vileee, and their education as Roman Catholics ought
to be protected, subject only to those restrictions of the
the
of British subjects. He regretted much that
vileges
Bill for imparting to them the rights and pri-
the petition had come from Glasgow ; it was, he felt
assured inconsistent with all that was liberal, enlightened,
and charitable in that part of the country.
Lord MILTON was anxious to make peace between the
different parties rather than to enter into those feelings of
indignation which had already been expressed. He would
beseech the Hon. Member (Capt. G.) to give the petition
his most sober and Christian consideration, and
vipuld entreat him to consider whether the expressions
it contained were not a great deal more consistent
with Sectarian zeal than with Christian charity.—
It would not conduce to the peace, either civil or reli-
gious, of the country, to encourage the promulgation of
sectarian opinions.

Mr. DIXON sail that he participated in the feelings
which had been expressed regarding the petition by
the Noble Lord (Milton) who had just sat dowo.
and he would take the sense of the House, whether the
petition should be brought up.
Sir GEORGE CLARKE said it would be the first
time that Howe had ever been called upon to
reject a petition merely because the individuals differed
urn speculative opinions with the great majority of
that House.

After a few words from Mr. CRESSETT PELHAM and
Sir R. INGus,

Dir. O'CONNELL said he put the whole matter upon
the question, whenever it was expresse.t respectfully to that
/louse. Would it be civil and respectful to address him,
and say that his religion was complete idolatry.
It was as little idolatrous as the religion of the
lion. Member for Oxford, and ought to he respected as
much in that House. It was the religion of at least
one-third of the British empire, and was it therefore
respectful to upwards of three-fourths of the Christian
inhabitants of the empire, to call them idolaters? Would
it not be disrespectful in a Roman Catholic to call a
protestant a heretie•? He considered the grant to the
Roman Catholic College of jilaynooth as legitimate a sub-

Lord ALTHORP regretted as much as any man
could regret the language that hal been used by the peti-
tioners ; tiut he had always laid it down as a rule that
it petitions were respectfully worded, they ought to be re-
ceived. When petitions contained language reflecting upon
individuals, or upon any sect or party (which this petition
certainly did), he thought it perfectly right that such a'
lvtition ought to go no further than merely to be laid on
the table. He (Lord Althorp) would therefore give his
sanction to the petitions being laid on the table, but he
should certainly object to its being printed, should the
Hon. Member propose that it should be printed.
Mr. WYSE said that he should object to any course
of rejection being taken on this occasion, which might
hereafter prove to be a precedent. The times were too free
and enliglatned to regard whatever might be said by any
person or persons respecting their religious tene's. He
thought it quite right that every individual's opinion should
he received in that House, when it is presented to the
House in respectful language, therefore he hoped the peti-
tions would rot only be received, but be printed. If the
House attempted in this instance to controul the expres
sion of spinion, there was n s knowing where the conse-
quences would end.
Mr. MAURICE O'CONNELL hoped the House would
recollect that a few nights ago a petition was rejected,
presented, he believed, by the Hon. Member for Preston.
ftotn Stockport, which certainly was worded in much
more respectful terms than was the present petitior.

Lord'IANDEVILLE considered that, constituted as
the House and society now were, this pe-ition con'd
not safely he rejected. Lie for one, as a Protestant, could
certainly not give his supp-rt to this grant, which was to
be made for the purpose of disseminating principles that
he in his conscience believed to be erroneous.

Mr. KENNEDY regretted that individuals, to re-
spectable Ministers of religion, and men of education.
should express such opinions as these petitioners had, and
object to the grant at a time when the Protestant inha
bitants of Ireland had so misconducted themselves.
He deeply lamented the annual scenes which took place
in Ireland produced by the Orange Protestants, from
which the most calamitous results mowed, and he also
lamented that individuals should be found to hurry the
people on to such conduct He was led to make these
remarks front having been absent during the di.cu,s'o
of last night upon this subject, to which he intended on
some future occasion to call the serious attention of this
House.

After a few words from Mr. LEFILOY,
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT said the question was not
whether the grant should he voted or not ; but whether
the petition should be received. The petition had evi-
dently calumniated the religion of a large namt•er
of persons, and it was impossible hut to believe that thrt
in;ult had been intended. The Hon. Baronet then ob-
served that he had a petition, which he intended to pre-
sent on the first opportunity, from the Rev. R. Taylor,
who was under a severe sentenco in Horsemonger• lane for
uttering words insulting to our religion, and if the facts
in it were ture, they would require the serious
Interposition of the House. The Hon. Baronet suggested
that the petition should be withdrawn.
The petition was read and laid on the table.
Captain GORDON rose to move the printing of the
petition, and was speaking when our Reporter left.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.

MANSION-HOUSE.

Edward Pagriell and Elizabeth Smith were brought
before the LORD MAYOR, charged with having vio-
lently assaulted a chimney-sweeper, named Peter
Lincon. Although the defendants were in the fruit
line, they looked, in.consequence of having come
frequently in contact with the chimney-sweeper, as
if they had just followed him down a flue.
A parish constable stated, that he had been called
into a house in Angel-alley, to quell a row, at four
iu the looming, and he found the defendants pum-
melling the chimney-sweeper in a very unpleasant
sort of a way, for one of them was bleeding him
over the shins with a leg of a chair, while the other
bumped his face against the ground. The chimney-
sweeper had evidently made a desperate resistance,
for the room was in a complete cloud of soot, and it
was impossible to say which of the three was blackest.
The chimney-sweeper said, that he had been
drinking a small quantity of ale at a new beer•house,
the proprietor of which had turned out the defend-
ants, who bad lived together " promiscuous," for
bad conduct. Somehow the ale got in his head,
and instead of going to his own apartment, which
was in the cellar, be went up stairs, and didn't
know where he was, until the defendants fell upon
him. His only chance of escaping was by raising a
dust, and he accordingly " shaked his togs to give
the feller and his pal a bit of a smother."—(Loud
laughter.)
The officers stated, that cries of murder, some-
times in earnest and sometimes in lark, often issued
from the house in which the three offending persons
resided, and the neighbours hoped that an example
would be made in the present instance.
The LORD MAYOR ordered the three customers
to find bail.

The circumstances, and the mariner in which they
were detailed, caused great merriment.

MAR YLEB ONE.

On Saturday Mr. Williams, an elderly personage,
his eyes encased in a pair of silver-mounted concaves,
and possessing that perpendicular air which a military
life alone can bestow—
" He looked like a warrior on his half pay"—
was charged before Mr. llostuNs and Mr. GRIFFITH
with shaking his fist within one inch and a half of
the most prominent feature in the physiognomy of
Mr. Jeffries, bonnet-maker and straw-plat-twister.

Mr. Jeffries stated that on Thursday evening last
he heard very high words, uttered in a gruff voice—
" a very gruff one indeed"—outside the door, and,
sallying forth to ascertain the cause, found it was
that of Mr. Williams, his next-door neighbour,
abusing one of his young women in most unadmea-
sured phrases. He inquired why he so abused his
pretty little maid-of-all-work; whereupon Mr. Wil-
liams told him he was "a warrior and a gentleman,"
said he had served his King and country, and shook
his fist so near his nose that he could feel the quick
motion of the air caused by the rapid motion of the
hand of the " warrior and gentleman," as it swung
past its point.
Mr. Williams, being called on for his de`enee,
began as follows :—" I became nearly blind in the
service of my country. On Thursday last I received
my half-pay, and met with two or three old war-
riors like myself. We had a glass together, perhaps
a glass too much. But never mind, when old war-
riors meet together, and sit down to call back their
recollections of many a hard-fought field, 'tis hard
to part 'ern /. Well, when I came home, Mrs. Wil-
liams and I had a few words, and this man's servant
took the libe,ty of poking her held in to hear what