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know what they thOtight would be the effect of the Spanish
Constitution. He lived at a great distance from the House
Of Lords.—(A cry, ,"rhe farther the better.") He was
not a witness of their proceedings ; he only heard of them.
Sometimes the gentlemen of the Press let them know what
the Lords were doing.—(Hear, hear.) Sometimes they
had occasion to be grateful to them, as for in-
stance, when they sent them down a gentleman
with a white wig and a black apron._(Great laughter.)
But there were other things for which they were not so
grateful. They did not see the reason why England
should have the Corporations, and Ireland should be de-
prived of them altogether.—(Loud cheers.) They did not
very well see why the Irish clergy should have the tenth
of all the revenue arising from tithes, they should not give
one farthing, towards the education of the people. He
did not sec the propriety of Dissenters maintaining the
places of worship of the Established Church.—(Loud
cheers.) But they lived in the provinces, and they had
entertained very little respect for the House of Lords.—
(Great cheering.) There was a little remnant of
respect, but be dared to say, that in any movement
by which the peerage was destroyed ; if, by any chance,
they were deprived of the great advantage of the House
of Lords, he believed that they would submit with the
greatest possible Christian resignation.—(Great laughter.)
They might shed a few tears—they might cry for a few
days, but then they would repress their grief, and at the
end of three months, they would forget that they ever bad
had the advantage of the House of Lords as a part of the
British Constitution. He congratulated them on the
events that had occurred in Spain—he congratulated them
on the spread of Liberal principles ; he called upon them
to congratulate each other that a movement had been made
towards liberty, as they might rest assured that a
movement in Spain would be followed by a movement in
France.—(Tremendous cheering.) They must all wish for
another three days—(Great cheering)—nod, however, three
days of bloodshed—they wanted a moral three days—a
moral movement. Would any man say, that they did not
want such a movement in England ?—(Loud cheering.)
Looking at the position they Lad been in for the last five
years—looking at the measures of reform which had been
attempted and frustrated, would any man say, that they did
not want a moral movement in England They wanted
more Reform—a thorough Radical Reform.
(The first Resolution was then put; and carried una-
nimously.)
Mr. RUTHWEN, M.P. for Kildare, then came forward
amid much cheering, to propose the second resolution.
When be came into the room, he was totally unprepared
to take any part in the proceedings of the day, but being
the friend of universal liberty over the whole world, he
could not refrain from attending the meeting.—(Cheers.)
The cause of Spanish freedom was the cause of Englishmen
and the whole world.—(Great cheering.) This was, in
his opinion, like the case of our own country, a struggle
of parties for power, it was more for individual advance-
ment than general good. The party of Carlos and the
party of the Queen, like the Tories and the Whigs of this
country, sought to place themselves on a certain and sure
foundation.—(Cheers.) It was for the meeting to say
whether the establishment of either of these parties should
take place, and was for the advantage and liberty of Spain
or the popular rights of that country. He thought it
was not. The only thing, in his opinion, that would
do good for Spain, was the establishment of the Constitu-
tion of 1812. He was a Radical, and had been sent to
the House for those opinions, and that rising party—the
party of the people—would at no very distant day govern
and regenerate the country-Lthey would make great Bri-
tain respected throughout Europe, not for her riches or
her possessions, but for the degree of freedom she enjoyed,
and the popular rights which she allowed. With thanks for
the kindness of his reception, he would conclude with mov-
ing the 2d resolution.
Mr. DUFFEY rose to second the resolution, and he
avowed that he had come to the meeting with the purpose
of hearing what the Chairman had to say upon the subject,
to hear what Mr. Warburton—to hear what Dr. Bowling,
Mr. Hector, and other Members had to say upon the point.
They however had disappointed them—they kept out of the
way, as the matter was not yet certain of success There
was mention made in the Resolutions, of the three days of
Paris—it was a fact, and a glorious one, that there was not
a deputy to be seen in the streets, till there was not an
enemy to be seen.—(Cheers.) So it might be with those
Hon. Members who were now absent. But it might be
that they abstained from attendance because the Govern-
ment were about to interfere under the pretence of putting
down Don Carlos. How did they know but that their
Honourable Chairman would be designated as a political
Marplot in presiding at such a meeting, and that he
would be set down by their liberal Foreign Se-
cretry, and their -liberal Whig Ministry, as interfering
in the infamous plot now hatching against the liberties of
the Spanish people.—(Mr. Duffy here read the second re-
solution.) There was no man who knew anything of history
who did not know the gallantry and bravery of the Spanish
people ; but they had met among their friends with so
many deceivers, who, under pompous names, had deceived
and degraded them, be hoped they would not find the
scutcheon of Spanish liberties again stained by the Cortes
Bonds. He hoped that the stock-jobbers would seek for
sound Constitutional principles of liberty. Let them de-
fend them with their hearts' blood, and let them appeal to
.the patriotism of the universal Spanish people, and not to
the deceitful and jobbing patriotism of the Roth-
childs and the Goldschmidts.—(Hear, and cheers.)
Look at the people of Greece, who, after two years' strug-
gling, were now plundered by the stockjobbers, under the
especial patronage of my Lord Palmerston.—(Cheers and
laughter.) He hoped the Spanish people would not allow
themselves thus to be sold, neck and heels. The resolution
stated, that 100,000 men had put down the Constitution
of 1812, but 300,000 men would not have done it, if the
people were but true to themselves. They had met to ex-
press their sympathy with the Spanish people, but he hoped
they would learn experience from the past, and not commit
themselves to the ,care of stockjobber s, who traded upon
their patriotism.—(Hear, hear.) A former speaker
(Mr. Carpenter) had stated his astonishment at
the tone of the public press of that morning—
he (Mr. Duffy) was not astonished at it at all, because
the men spoke from 'their own instinct, and had not had
time to consult their employers. The base press of all
classes and denominations was at all times ready and willing
to sell themselves to the highest bidder. The press would
be crying out shortly, as the liberty Whig chronicle had done
to-day, that the Constitution of 1812 ought not to exist.
The fact was, that the press was like the House of Lords,
playing at trap-and-ball—first throwing one way and then
the other.—(Cheers and laughter.)
The CHAIRMAN then put the resolution, which was car-
ried unanimously.
Mr. MUnerre moved the third resolution. With refer-
ence to Spain, he was free to confess that lie had taken
but little interest in what was going on in that country.
To him it was a matter of the most perfect indifference
whether Don Caidos was there as an open despot, or whe-
ther Isabella was endeavouring to conceal her despotism
by the tricks of her government.—(Loud cheers). He
had taken the liberty of telling Colonel Evans, when he
went out to Spain, that he was going there to very
little purpose—(loud cheers ;)—and-facts had turned out
as he thought they would—(Continued cheers.) There was
no country in the world where greater jealousy existed than
in Spain, at feseign interference. Hints had been thrown
out that the opinions of the press had changed. He was
not much enamoured of the press, but he thought it hard
to throw all the blame upon the press.—(Cheers.) Not-
withstanding all that had been said, he never believed that
there was more than five Radical men in the House of
Commons, and only two had honoured the meeting with
their presence. It was true that the press had changed, but
what was the press but a trade ? and when the market was
high, their opinions were high—and when low, down it went.
He referred to the Reform Bill, and complained that it was
defective, or how otherwise. could 300 Tories be returned
to the House of Commons ?—(Cheers.) The Reform Bill
was good as far as it went, but it was ridiculous to suppose
that they must not go.farther,—(Cheers.) He would have
accepted the Reform Bill if it only contained Schedule A,
but he would never be content till they had obtained Uni-
versal Suffrage and Vote by Ballot. The people of Spain were
setting them an example in this respect ; the Constitution
of Spain established universal suffrage—(Loud cheers)—it
established triennial Parliaments —(Cheers)—and, above
all,
_it proved that a country might be great and free, al-
though it was deprived of all the blessings of a House of
Lords.—(Tremenduons cheering.) It was a matter of
utter indifference to him which party, Whig or Tory, was
in power, the party of the people would, by this example of
Spaie, soon arrive at the government of the country. The
French lost the benefit of the three days by being deceived '
by the capitalists, who promised that they should have a-
Monarch, surrounded with Republican institutions.—(A
laugh.) In Spain, they would have no Monarch, but have
the pure principles of Democracy as the basis of the Go-
vernment. It had been said that the Government should
not be allowed to send troops to Spain. He would go fur-
ther, and say, that they ought not to be allowed to give
France leave to send them.—(Cheers.) The Hon. Gen-
tleman concluded by moving the third Resolution.

The Resolution was seconded by Mr. VINCENT, and was
carried unanimously.
Mr. FLANNIGAN proposed the fourth resolution, which
was seconded by Mr. PROUT, and carried unanimously.
The other resolution was also adoptel
A vote of thanks was then proposed to the Chairman,
which was received with loud cheers ; after which the
Meting separated.

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