The Sun.
London, England, 1809-12-16 00:00:00

RE-CONSIDERATION OF THE ADDRESS.

The LORD MAYOR was then. about to address the
Court on the subject of the requisiiibn, in compli-
ance with which the present Court was summoned,
which he said was signed by some of the most re-
spectable Members of Court, When .
Mr. Sheriff A.riuNs rose, and said, before the re-
quisition was read,- he was anxious to make a. few
observations on 'the inexpediency of the present,
meeting. After the merits of the Address had un-
dergone a re-consideration, during a lapse of eight
hours, be could not see the grounds upon Which
the Court, was summoned a third time, nor (lid he
see any reason assigned in the requisition. When
he.had taken the liberty of applying for a re-consi-
deration of the first Address, the reason he .-ssigned,
was the lateness of the hour when it was produced,
which led him to imagine thatmany of the Mem-
bers had gone away under an impression that no Ad-
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dress would be presented. And as he was anxious
that every Gentleman should have a fair opportunity
of considering its merits, in conjuuttion with some
friends he deemed it necessary that another Court

EXTRAORDINARY GR0WT11....413 Newby Park, should be assembled. The result of which was a
belonging Lord GRANTFIAM, there is now growing very full attendance, who, after the most mature
an deliberation,, resolved on the second Address as must
oak tree, of the uncommon admeasurement of
consistent with the dignity of
the City of London,
25 tons, or 1000 solid feet ; its girth six feet up-.
and more respe&ful to his Majesty. Uncler these
*ards, is twenty feet four inches, which at the pre-
se- • •
Lit prices of timber and bark, is worth upwards of circumstances he could- not help deprecating the pre-
.so guineas, •sent meeting. How is the business ever to be

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settled, said he, If itch me;sures are to be tolerat.
ed ? (a laugh.) If he could satisfy his mind of the
necessity, of the tneetin'i, 1e should not give any
opposition ; but when :a i7persons had already
given their opinion on 'the subject, he thought it
exretneir ill advised thAt ailother Court should be
Convened. •

It Was impossible,
patience.to a tharge:brought against and other
geolemen *of, the Cotirt, before the whole 1.,i-ery'
of London, of corruption. Re C.Oticlncltd by eX~
pressing his decided opinion in favo.or of the last
Address, and .expreqsed a conviClion that thf..re was
not an individual in Great would not
say, it was more d;gnifiei, and more consistent
with the charatier of the City of London, than that
fir.t adopted.
Mr. Soeriff W 001) was anxious to call to tfi re-
colleEtion of the Court the proceedings of Wednes-
day last, on the subjett of the new Addr-,;, on whicli
hesaid the question was never :;tit.
Mr. KEINIBL.F. called the worthy Sheriff to orders
and moved, that tine minutes of tlic Court be
read, in. order to see whether the asserti!u) wa ,:or-
rea. The minutes were then read, from which it
appeared, that the new Address had been cart Ica in
the affirmative,

, Mr. TAnny 0)0110 the lat Address had been
brought forward in too haifY a manner, and had
been passed through the ,court « th a rapidity very
f,n such occasions. He ,badgreat opinion

of the ability of the worthy Sheriff (Atkins), and %iris
convinced, if the Address proliO4o. by 111:n was re-
ferred to a- Committee, he would himself think

some alterations were necessary ; and as it appeared

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the general wish of the Court that semle other Ad-
dress should be prepared, he begged leave to move,
" That a Committee, consisting of nll the Aldermen
and a Commoner from each Ward should be ap-

pt'inted to prepared an Address and MillOn to his
M.ijeity." •
Mr. Stimii, rose to te'Cond the Motion, anti in A
speech of much warmth direded the attention of
the Court to the ca!amitous occurrences which had

Mr. Sheriff Woob, howeVer, perSisted in the truth
of his observation. He also said, that he had never
heard of an Address being sent up to his Majesty,
wi,hout having been previously submitted to a Corn-
rriittee. With respeet to the precedent alluded to
by an Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Mlwrnan), he
begged leave to inform him, that the Address to
which he alluded had been before a Committee,
and was Only amended by the General Court.—
He also dwelt on the necessity of the re-considera-
tion of the Address, and in order to effect that
purpose, declared his sentiments in favour of the
Motipti.

marked the cireer Ministers during their admi-
nistratiot% He particularly adver:ed to the events
in Spain, and the impolicy of 3 Lord
Chatham to the command of the 1::e disguteful

I_,xpeditiOn to Walcheren, by which the lives of so
many brave stdiers had been wantonly sacrificed,
and the wealth of the country dissipated without any
beneficial reSult: He trusted the Court would not

be deluded by any Middle means, or be led to believe
by specious arguniiiiits that Parliament would be in-
duced unsolic,ted to make thOse inquiries whith the
misfortunes of the ttingdom proclaiMed so indis-
pensable. He called on the Represtritati,eS of the
City of London to conVinee the World that they
were not to be deceived by such shallow artifices.
It Was an established principle that the King could

Mr. BattKwoon expressed his astonishment that
any well-wisher of the country should ctnsure the
condua of Lord Wellington; he should as so:in
expea to hear the bravery of Lord Collitigwood, or
any of our Naval Commanders, called in question.
He was not surprised, however, at any thing he
beard from some Members of" the Court. Some
insinuations had been thrown out respeaing the
tools of Administration ; he could only say, he was
no tool, and that his vote would come freely from
the diaates of his heart. After seven hours discus+
sion, he"thought the opin in of the Court had been
sufficiently colle&ed, dad conceived a majority of 17
in favour of the Address was a plain proof of the
sentiments of the Court.

do no wrong ; undoubtedly this was the case, be-
cause Ministers e't-ie al ways responsible for his con-
dwl. But if Miniscers were in the right, why
was any opposition given to the inquiry so univer-
sally called for ? He felt great pleasure in support-
ing the motion, and expressed an anxious desire that
the Committee should withdraw and bring forward
such an Address as would give satislattion to all
parties.
Mr. LUCAS said, his ohje6lion to the former Ad-
dressarose from several causes; amongst others, the
condemnation of a 4,allarit General, whose COlldlla
Was certainly unobjeCtionable upon my public
grounds. He would undertake to prove also, that
the Ekpeditioo to Spain, which was so strongly ani-
madverted on, had, been carried into effect with*the
unanimous acquiescence of that Court. And, in
order to substantiate this assertion, tie begged leave
to refer the Meeting to I Address sent up to his
Majesty on the :win of July, in which they had not
alone signtfled their readiness to support his Majesty
in hi, exertions in favour of the brave Spaniards,
but Panegyrised in the most glowiii;z terms the ho-
nourable and dignified feel ngs which led to such a
measure. The wonky Gemleman titer en:ered into
an elaborate defence of the conduCt of Lord Wel-
lington in the :!ssistarite he atlorded the Spaniards.
If Iris exertiqns were not attended with the desired
etfe6t, the misfortune was more an ributable to the
Spaniards themselves, who had shown great pusils
latihnity, than 10 the. g‘ilLiiit General, who, it
had not mak. some exertions, would have stood a
:still greater chance of drawing upon himself the
animadversions of h,s. country. He concluded by
expressing his anprobatioo of the second Address,
and declaring his opposition to the motion of Mr.
'Paddy.
Alderman GOODBEHERE commenced by obServ-
htg, that the honour and consequence of the Cor-
poration was materially concerned in supporting the
original Address. He then adverted to the, conduct
of Alderman Atkins, in proposing a -requisition for
a second :sleeting. Such conduct, he said, was con,-
trary :0 the dignity
.of the Court, and a gross ca-
lumny on a considerable number of the Manhers of
the Common Conned. lie then entered into a spi-
rited vindication of the original Address, which, he
said, had been carried in the fairest possible man-
ner. It had been, said, that one of the grounds of
objection to'it was, urns his Majesty had not been
treated with due respe6t. He would -ask, where
was the impropriety of going up to the Sovereign,
and. in an independent manner stating the abuses
which existed, and the disastrous failures which had
followed the impolitic measures of the present Ad-
ministration ? His Majesty, however, was surround-
ed only by flatterers, and the truth seldom reached
his Royal ear. He exhorted the Court -to go back
frOm whence they had set out, prepare a new Ad-
dress; and thus prove that they were not to be
trapped by the. artful- contrivance of Ministerial in-
fluence. By such conduEt they would prove their
independence, support the dignity of- their character,
and do honour to the Corporation.
Mr. SPENCER opposed the Motion, and said, he
thought the Address proposed was not a new Ad-
dress, but merely the original one amended.
Mr. GRIPTIVIS said, he thisught the subject had
already beef too notch debated. He begged the
Court Would not suffer it to go abroad that they
were squabbling about words, and words.only. As
they were all of one opinion that an Address was
necessary, he conceived the wisest plan would be
to join together as in one family,-and come to a de-
cision at once; by this proceeding they would de-
serve the thanks of their Fellow Citizens, and gain
the approbation of the Country.
Mr. MAWMAN said, the principal-objection seem-
ed to be, that the last Address was not sent to a
Committee. . The reason why this did nor take place
was, that it was merely one Address opposed to
another, added to which, no such proposition had
been made till after the Address had been adopted.
The next objection was, that it was unusual to pro.'
pose a second AdOess after the first bad been ac-
ceded. to by a majority of the. Court. In answer to
this he-had fairly put it to the Law Officer, -if there-
was a precedent in -existence, who informed the
Court that there was such 'a precedent for such a
proceeding in 1.806. Here, therefore, was an end
to that question. He then went on to deprecate the
condemnation of 'Ministers without inquiry, and
disapproved generally of the language of the last
Address. He also expressed a hope that. the Court
would not be influenced by the abuse and clamour of
the Court of
,Common Hall.—(He was here called
to order by Mr. Griffiths).—He said he was not out
of order, and would not be intimidated by threats.

Mr. HEAIu supported the motion, and observed,
"There are tliost:: who are wise for their own selfish ends,
Though they ruin their country a; d plunder their frieitjs "

Mr.. WAITU;MAN, in a speech of great length,
supported the motion. He entervd int() an elaborate
defence of the sentiments he had utter-d, and com-
mented on the character and condu....: 01 the-arieus
individuals who supported the new Address.
Mr. S. Dmoig opposed the motion, and defended
himselt against the charge of being biased in his vote
by. Mmi3terial influence. • .
Mr. Seriti Mims, in a speech of much streth
and energy, defended his principles, and adhuced
numerous arguments in support of the conduct he
had pursued respet'Aing the late Requisition, tht.
consequent iA•opositiun of a new Address. He aiso
accused the Lord Mayor• of not interfering wilt the
Livery at the Common Hall in his hehia If the
Lord Mayor hid done so, he said, he would have
obtained a hearing. -

He. was here called to order, and the Lord Mrty.,r
arose and asked, whether there was a Gentleman
present, who could say he had not done his duty in
the strictest souse ,of the word.—(Cries c.l " Yes,
Yes," resounded through the Court.)—His Lordship
then called on the COmmon Council to.support him.
Mr. Sheriff ATKIN s apologised for his observation,
and said nothing could be further from his wishes
than to give offence. •
Mr. JACKS defended his own political principles,
and moved the previous question.

Mr. WALTEas declared himself divested of every
political prejudice, and said, every Petition or Ad-
dress to his Majesty should be referred to a Commit.
tee previous to its being presented.

Mr. Sheriff WooD said, he was extremely sorry
that the previous question had been moved, as there
was a grammatical error in the Address, which, if it
had gone to the Committee, would have been cor-
rected.
Mr. TADDY replied,
• And the o.uesticn being loudly called for,
strangers were ordered to withdraw. The Coda di-
vided, and the numbers were declared as follows :
ror the previous*Questian—Aldermen 8
Commoners 96
Tellers

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.Against the previous Question —Lord Mayor r
Aldermen 5
Commoners So
Tellers 2

Majority in favour of the previous Question—:-i8

The new Address there.fore remains unnltexed,
and wilt be presented to his Majesty on Wednesday
next.

The Lords of the Admiralty have appointed Mr.
ALFRED JOHNSON to be Agent ViEtualler at the Cape
of Good Hope- in the place of HENRY PAL USHER,
Esq. returning home through ill health.
Thiring the hurricane yesterday morning, between
two and five o'clock, the newly ereEted wall of the
London Dock was bloWn down for upwards of
forty yards, and the wooden erection. Several ves-
sels and crafts started from their moorings.

THE AaTs.--,—We have thought it our duty to re-
commend a work brought forward by Mr. ACKER-
MANN on Arts, Manufatiures, and Fashion, and as
thit work proceeds with the same spirit, and is
marked by the same elegance and information as
when it -began, we deem it proper to recommend it
again to public attention. The last Number is par-
ticularly interesting, because it contains Portraits of
the Deputies from those gallant men the TTROLIANS,
who set an example to all Europe of resistance to
its greatest scourge'. Mr. ACKBRKANN deserves cre-
dit for chewing this regard for the rights of Nations
'• againit the inroads of usurpation and :yranny.
Friday night, a shop in High-street, Glasgow, was
entered by means of a false key, at a back door;
but there being a faithful dog in the inside, he re-
pelled the depredators, atter which, the animal went
and made such a ;noise at his master's house, which
. was at a little distance, that he immediately came
down to see how the animal had got out of the shop,
when he found it had been opened by false keys.—
: The courage and fidelity of the animal lad saved
his master's property, for not an article is missing,

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SA‘II7;IIFIELD CATTLE SHEIP.

Yesterday, at an earl, how-, the amateurs of breed-
.. ruf- and v,iszing asseMbkici in great numbers at Mr.
SadlerVYard, in Gostimh-street, and several in te.rest-
ing diseussioos t-olt• place on the •real and compara-
tivi.! Merits of the many tine fat animals exhibited,
molt 01 them brougta to their present high state of
ptrtection by very small comparative waste ot • time
or i,i-iVender; owing to the pecniiar aptitude ot the .

'nfividoa ti to fattell-
Tht Dt:(ke of Bedford, and a great number of
rne:f person 4 of distinction, were iten in

groupe. , . •
`Pirtle. were Hereford 'Oxen, long7horned Oxen,
Devon_ • Argyleshire _Oxen, Aberdeenshire.
hieshire.Oxen;- Highland Oxen, and Polled
oxen;. new Leicester Wetbers, and Sontliclown
Wel irers-; . Berkshire Pigs, and Suffolk and Chinese
Pigs. •
Mt. Join Onions exhibited a model of'a.Thrash-
in Milt Garrard shewed his finecharacteristic
prim 0,-, he elitiei cm: Br, ects of Cattle. • •
About three o'clock such of.the company as are
Members of the Club; repaired to Freemason's Ta-
vern, and held a meeting, his Grace the Duke of
Bedford the chair ;. which was attended by Sir
.Joseph Banks, Sir John• Sanders Sebright,
William
Northey, Esq. and a grrat many of the distinguish-
ed cirri-acre, s <<ho total this society. ' At this meet-
ing the following new members were elected--
The Marquis of Tavistock, Earl Tolbot, Lord
Bradford; the: Hon. Thomas Bower, Georgt, Cass
well, , Rev. Robert Harrison; Rev. Joseph-Martin,
Richard Norris, Charles Hamilton, Edmund Francis
Welles, J. H. Johnston, Stephen Eaton, and Richard
Astley, jun.
The Cub proceeded to take into consideration the
conditions of the cretniums to be offered by them
for next year, and agreed, that in future the exami-
nation of the certificates, and the judging of the
eligibility of the-cattle to be shewn -for the different
premiums, shall rest with the two Stewards for the
year, will) are afterwards to read the particulars of
-each certificate to the Judges of the shew, but omit-
ting all the names, so that tlieJtvges may in future
decide on the prizes, without. knowing by whom the
cattle are brod or fed for which they may adjudge
premiuths. _
It 'vaS'lmisiii-nreed to offer. a new premium .for
two-year-bid pure Mei mo fat wetlleFs.
Adjourned to Monday, at half-past two o'clock,
previous to the annual dinner.
At five o'clock-the Members present, and a few
of di,ir frii-nds, dined together, his Grace . the
1.), 1:e or Bedford in 'the Chair. After which the
toasts were—
" The King ; tli Queen and Royal, Family.; Prosperity
to the Smithfield Rib; The Plough ; Good Clrazn„- ; Lord
sSoinervale;•.Earl Wincnelsea; Lcrd Vernon ; Mr. Western;
Air. Coke ; Sir it,seph Batiks ; Earl Macclesfield ; Sir Min
SintAair ; Earl Thanet, &c."
AboUt nine o'clock, his Grace retired, and Sir
Joi' Sebright was called to the Chair,, who promot-
ed a most interesung disCusSicia of agricultural bith-
jtas until a late- hour.•