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and others on the opposite side of the House. The louse
had passed another measure—the English Tithe Bill,
which would also be of immense benefit to the Establish-
ment—in the discussion on the second reading of the Tithe
Bill in the other House that was admitted. He had no
enmity to the Church ; but the House of Commons before
it sanctioned the Bill on the table, should consider that
other measures of great importance to the Catholics of
Ireland, and the Dissenters of England, ought also to be
passed : he would vote for delay, until it was seen whether
the Irish Church Bill, and the Registration, and Dissen-
ters' Marriage Bills were sanctioned by the other House of
Parliament. If the Established Church Bill, and the
English 'l'ithe Bill once were carried, he much feared the
Catholics of Ireland and the Dissenters of England would
obtain no redress.—(Hear,.bear.)
Mr. W YNN deprecated any delay.
The House'then divided—
For the Amendment 22
For going into Committee ..
Majority --- 120
The House then went into Committee.
Mr. JERVIS rose to say, that the House having gone
into Committee in consequence of the majority against the
Hon. Member's amendment, he had thus been prevented
from moving, as he had intended, by way of instruction to
the Committee, "that no clergyman not fully conversant
with the Welsh language be appointed to any see or bene-
fice in the Principality." Unless he were permitted to put
this motion now, he should move that the Chairman report

progress and ask leave to sit again.
Mr. L AMBTON described himself as similarly circum-
stanced in reference to an instruction he had been about to
move to the Committee respecting the bishopric of Durham.
Lord J. RUSSELL though the House could hardly ac-
cede to the proposition of the Hon. Member who 'spoke
last but one ; and as to the motion of the Hon. Member
who spoke last, it could be much more appropriately brought
forward in another Bill.
Mr. C. W. WYNN recommended that the Hon. Mem-
ber should propose his motion as an instruction to the Com-
mittee on the second Bill.
The preamble was then postponed.

On clause 1 (relating to the appointment of Commis-
sioners) being put,
Sir LOVE PARRY eulogised the conduct of the Com-
missioners, and above all the Archbishop of Canterbury,
but contended that sufficient attention had not been paid
to the situation of the inhabitants of Wales in the new ar-
rangement of the Welsh dioceses. He would conclude
with expressing his sincere hope that the House would
not allow the see of Bangor to merge into any other, and
that no part of the funds belonging to such see shall be
withdrawn from it.

Mr. RIGBY WASON contended that too great power
would be placed by this clause in the hands of the Com-
missioners, and that power might get into the hands of those
who would make a dangerous use of it, and engross it to
themselves. In truth, the Noble Lord proposed to transfer
to the Commissioners the whole power the Government
now had in the Church.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL replied that the objection of
the Hon. Gentleman might be good if the Commissioners
had unlimited power given to them, and could make what
rules they pleased ; but they were constrained and checked
by the 10th clause. The question, however, was, whether
the course suggested was not the best adapted to carry into
effect the object in view, namely, to recommend such regu-
lations and rules as they might deem necessary for working
out the plan in view.

Mr. lIIGBY WASON contended that the preamble
did not bear out the statement made by the Noble Lord
that the Commissioners were checked by the 10th clause.
Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to.
Upon clause 3 being proposed,
Mr. HINDLEY objected to it as unnecessary.
moved that the clause be struck out.
The House divided.
For the clause
Against it
Majority
Clauses 4 to 8 agreed to.
The House resumed, and the Chairman reported progress

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