The Sun.
London, England, 1831-09-09 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. BLACKNEY presented a petition from the land
proprietors 4nd others of.the parish of Carlow, praying for
the dikinerniio-fileht of the yeomanry of that county.
Captain GORDON presented a petition from the mini
wets, elders, and members of the congregation of the pres-
bytery of Newcastle-on-Tyne against any further grant to
Ma)nooth College. The Hon. Manber said as this sub-
ject would come on for discussion in another part of the
tvtiting, he should not do any more than present the
petition.
Mr. O'CONNELL expressed a wish, as she Hum
Member had riot stated the contents of the petition, that it
should be read. _ _

The petition was then read—it alluded to the " Idolatrous
Church," &c.
Upon the question that it be pelnted the gallery was
cleared for a division, but none took place.
New writs were ordered to issue for Forfatshire, in the
room of the Hon. W. Maule, created a Baron of the
and for Derbyshire, in the room of Lord
also created a Baron of the United
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Mr. WYSE presented two petitions from Galway, fot.
an extension of the Galway franchise.
Mr. LAMBERT presented two petitions, one from
Ennesearthya in the county of Wexford ; and the other
from the relatiC'ea of the persons who wete killed at New-
townbarry, praying
that the yeotiuthry may be die-
handed. The petitioners spoke in respectful leo.
but in strong toms of the
affair,Newtown-
eHouse
callingit an inhuman murder, a barbarous and
andrary iendt
iosctiiiinieate metsaere, He sincerely hoped his
Majesty's Ministers would be pre:trailed upon to comply
with the prayers of the petitioners by disarming the yeo-
manry; fur unless theit prayer was attended to the very
worst consequences would ensue.—(lleat.) He did not
believe that his Majesty's Government were indifferent to
the late unfortunate transaction, but it was necessary that
some immediate means should he adopted to show the
opinion that Ministers entertained of it.
Mr. MAXWELL bad heard so many statements re-
specting what was ttimed the triasaete of Pielvtownbarry,
that he was induced to trouble the House with a few ob-
servations. He denied that it was a massacre.—(Hear,
bear, from Mr. O'Connell.) He regretted to say that lives
had been lost, but how was it ? The Hon. Member then
eniered into a statement of the occurrences that led to that
unfortimate affait, aril then alluded to a statement made on a
former right by the HMI. ]]ember opposite (Mr. Lambert).
That Hon. Member had stated that a woman named Mary
Mulrooney had had her womb ripped open by the bayonets
of the yeomanry—(flear, hear)—and afterwards the lion.
Member said she was ripped up by a bullet, and her un-
born child exposed. He (Mr. Maxwell) had documents
of an unquestionable nature in contradiction to that state-
ment; be had the evidence of Mr. Green, King's Coun-
sel, and of Captain Fitzgerald, who were sent by his
majeaty's Government on purpose to investigate the
charges, and he had also certificates of the Coroner and
the Foreman of the Jury, ill of whom denied that Mary
Nlulrooney's body Lad been ripped open and her chill
exposed, and stated that she died of a wound of a bullet ;
that the person who shot her had been committed to gaol,
and that a hill of indictment tnr manslaughter had been
hrund against him by the Grand Jury. This indictment was
corroborated by B. W. Hare, Esq. Magistrate of Wexford,
and Mr- Hyde, the surgeon, who attended the woman. In
addition to this, he had the affidavit of Mary Stone, at
whose house Mary Mtilroonev resided, and where he
died ; from that affidavit it appeared that the deceased was
not pregnant when she was shot. He did not mean to
impute to the Hon. Member for Wexford the slightest in-
•ention to state any thing that he did not himself most

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firm!), believe ; but he f egged him to,tte't cautit us on
wit= authority he :TVA the statemenWssniich It, made
in that House. •
Mr. WALKER was much amused to liar the confi-
dence with which the statements of the Hen. Member
who had just sat down were accompanied. 'He had not even
attempted to contradict the fact di it the 'calling out of the
yeomanry was unnecessary upon the occasion referred to,
and that of the innocent people of the place from ten to
fifteen were killed, and upwards of twenty wounded.—
(Hear, hear. )

Mr. O'CONNELL would only say, in opposition to the
easiertion of the Member for Cavan, that the calling out of the
veomanq eras necessary, that the Lord Lieutenant of Ire-
land, who could not he accused of any disposition to dis-
pirage their character, had published a letter declaring
the act altogether unnecessary.
Mr. SHAW said that on no subject cellneeted with
Irish affairs had atere been so much misrepresentation
and exaggerated statements A 9 on the Newtownbarry
effray 7 No one more sincerely regretted than he did the less
of human lire, bet he could not but repeat his essertion.—
It had been affirmed that ±ro placards had appeared stating
that a sale was to take place of cell, seized for tythe. But
suali placards had most undoubtedly appeared, conclud-
ing too with " No tithes, no Parsons," &c. &c --(Hear,
hear.) A representation veal also made, only the day
bef ire, too late for the at rival of a regular force, by the
?Magistrates of that part of the county 'to tie Lord
Lieuterrant, slating that in consequence of such state-
ments they did apprehend a reecue.—(llear, hear,
hear.) . Such a document, be believed; was now
forthcoming.—(Hear, bear; No, no, from Mr. O'Con-
nell.) Ile (Mr. Shaw) was prepared to state that there
was a memorial of that description now in the Castle of
Dublin—a/leer, hear, henr)—which was written pre-
viously to the transaction. There was also an
dr glnited force of strangers brought to Newtownbarry
on that occasion, and these people were ail armed. ,
He thought it most unjust to characterise the transaction
by the term of butchery.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member
had also chosen to characterise the transaction as a murder,
*bile a Grand Jury of Wexford had, upon taeir oaths,
declared it not to be so. He could not account for such a
mode of acting, nor could he conceive whit object the
Hon. Member had in view in doing so. •
Mr. BLACKNEY considered it a'most atrocious mur-
der, and felt confident that so long as the yeomanry were
kept armed, the House would be deluged with petitions
like the present.
Mr. M. O'CONNELL thought the placardi adverted to
would not bear the construction put upon them by the
Hon; Member opposite, (the Recorder of Dublin).
Mc. LAMMRT, on moving that the petition do lie on
the table, entreated his Majesty's Government to look to
the wants of the people of Ireland. He believed the
Newtownbarry affair, and he declared : it, in the
presence of his God and of his country, ,to be
as cold blooded and atrocious a massacre as ever was per-
petrated. The yeetlatzty were called the body guard of the
Church, but, in his opinion, as long as that force continued
in existence, it was utterly impossible that tranquility could
ex'tt in Ireland.—(Heir, bear.)
Mr. YOI-J5O thought the Government had adopted a
most judicious course in riot disarming the yeomanry:
Captain GORDON defended the yeomanry of Ireland,
and -wished to know, in the name of common sense,
justice, and resson, why the House was everlasting!),
to be dragged bate the discussion of a supposed murder
and massacre, when a Jury of twelve honest men had
declared it to he no murder or massacre at all.
He would take it upon himself fearlessly to
repel the aliargis, and when Him. Members talked of a
massacre, he would point their attention to what occured
at Wexford-bridge.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped Govern-
ment would never be misled by mlerepresentations of
the tandect of the yeomanry corps, so as to alter it from
what it at pfeeent News, unless, indeed, that alteration was
t ) put it upon a niche. substantial flioting than it at
present existed. He should Wee felt himself unworthy
of a seat in that Muse if he had sat still and heard the
aspersions that had been made on the yeouraury of Ireland '
without Vindicating their conduct.
Mr. O'CONNELL observed that the Hon. Member for
Dundalk had been good enough to favour the House with
his definitioo tof what a massacre was, and where he
considered one lead liter committed; for his part, though
he could not but thank the Hon. Member for hie ex-
planation—(A laugh)—yet the certeiftly very much wished
that that Hon. Member, who was the oominee of a
certain Noble; would interfere a little more with his own
country, and leave Ireland to those who had more right
than he had to interfere. The Hon. Member had
asked why H-tn. Members contintted to agitate the House
on this subject? In answer to that he Would tell him that
the reason he had done so was to put an end, if possible,
to the repetition of such outrages in future. lithe Hon.
Member (Captain Gordon) thought that the arming of one
part of the population to rottasere the other would put
down agitation, he was mistaken.—(Hearn) It was a libel on
the King's troops to say they created a jealousy when they
interfered to prevent disturbances; the Kings troops 'Were
very popular In Ireland. As an Irishman, whose love for
Ireland was not imported from another country—(A
laugh)—he was most willing to bear his proportion
of the expense in having an addition to the force
of the regular troops, if his Majesty's Ministers would but
allow the yeomanry to return to that slumbering state
from which Lord Anglesea last year roused them. They
ought to be disbanded, and until they were, the blood that
was shed at Newtownbarry, would spring up in the faces of
those who justified the yeumaury system.---(Hear.)
Mr. H. GRATTAN warmly contended that the yeo-
manry of Ireland was an improper force, and quoted
the evidence of several distinguished persons. The real
agitators of Ireland now were those who went to Ireland
from other countries, and paraded from village to village
disseminating their opinions, ; but the people there would
be no longer deluded by such impostors. It was
idle to contend that the yeomanry ever had been necessary.
lbey had been stigmatised by the bravest officers, and even
by Lord Anglesea himself.
Colonel ROCHFORD suggested, as a more satisfactory
course, and as one that would put an end to these discus-
gime, that the report of the proceedings taken before Mr.
Green, the King's Counsel, 'should be laid before the
House.

Mr. SHAW denied that he was either an Orangeman,
or a Papist, as had been attributed to him, and said that
he never belouged to any political club in his lire. lie had
certainly presented a petition flora some Roman Catholics,
but he did so because he conceived they had been ill-used.
He expressed his regret to Lear a body of men like the
yeomanry maligned for doing 'hit they conceived to be
their duty, though unfortunately it w•as attended with a
sacrifice of life.

Sir J. M. DOYLE had beard such contradictory state-
ments of different Irish Members, that he suggested as a
means of pacifying that country that a commission should be
appointed, consisting exclusively of Englishmen (that they
might not be accused of partiality towards Ireland) un-
connected with party, to inquire into, and report upon, the
state of the yeomanry force. The result be would stake hie
life upon it would he, that the yeomanry force would
he considered a "Try inefficient force. The Hon. Member,
as a pi oof of the impropriety of employing such a force,
stated that some of his canvassers, during the last elec-
tion, were shot at by some of the yeomanry, and
one of them bad his hat perforated with a bullet.
He also narrowly escaped being shot, and when he male
a complaint of such conduct, he was congtatulated upon
his escape, and requested to say nothing further about it.
Mr. LAMBERT said, if be had spoken upon this sub-
ject boldly and freely, it was because he felt honestly.
Captain GORDON scorned the vituperation and cen-
sure of the Hon. Member for Kerry. Ile counted his
praise censure, and his censure praise. He (Capt. Gor
don bad been taunted with his connection with a certain
borough, as the nominee of a Noble Lord. He would only
say this, that be would rather sit in that House as the
nominee of that Noble Lord's footman, than as the
nomini e of the Noble Member for Newry.—(l-1, ar, and
much laughter)
Mr. O'CONNELL—That is quite a matter of taste.
On the motion of M. Srmr4c RICE, the House then re-
ceived the report of the Committee of Ways and Means.
(Larr SITTING.)

This morning the Sophia, Capt. NIEL, a re-
gular trader, arrived at Greenock from Quebec and Mon-
treal. '!Shia is the second voyage of the Sophia this
season, and she is to sail again for tie same porta soon,
making three voyages in one season to Montrea'--a thing,
we believe, unprecedented in the annals of Jiriti h
Glasgow Chronicle.