The Sun.
London, England, 1836-09-24 00:00:00

TEE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 1836.

Liam Molesworth, in favour of a motion for remodelling
the House of Lords, would be a dereliction of the
pledge by which I had bound myself, I did what a
man of honour ought to do. Gentlemen, I am un-
fortunately situated. Sir William Molesworth being
abroad, I do not feel myself entitled to publish the cor-
respondence between us without his sanction. I think,
however, I may venture to state the contents of my letters,
as they do not affect Sir W. Molcsworth in the least degree.
The worthy Baronet stated in the letter that at the time
Sir William had called on him, he had not seen an article
on the House of Lords in the London Review, nor was he
aware of the opinions on the subject held by one section of
the House of Commons—that it was not from these cir-
cumstances but as coupled with his own declaration, that
he (Sir Coiman Rashleigh) inferred that he (Sir William
Molesworth) would vote for Peerage Reform ; and in-
formed him that in such case he could not support him.
He wrote not with a view of influencing Sir William,
but for the sake of his own principles and consistency ;
and he could contemplate no case in which he should
feel it his duty to vote against him. Sir William's reply,
(the worthy Baronet continued) was manly and open
as usual, but the principle he took it appeared to him
would impair that of the co-ordinate jurisdiction of the
House of Lords. He (Sir Colman Rashleigh) was far
from asserting that great as the change would be were the
constitution of the House of Lords altered, that under all
imaginable circumstances such change would be improper.
A conjuncture might arise to render it as necessary as the
change in the succession in 1688 ; but it would clearly be
justifiable only under the most absolute necessity—nothing
less could warrant so hazardous an experiment. Nothing
more could be required until the means afforded the people
under the Reform Bill had been found inefficient. The
measure would not only be unnecessary but mischievous :
it would convert the Government into a representative
democracy, to prepare the way for the Conservative party
to return with increased power. Many other persons were
in a similar position with himself ; he had not consulted
them, but he was aware how they felt. The article in the
London Review, to which he referred, entitled " Close of
the Session," contained, in his opinion, particularly pages
222 and 277, revolutionary doctrines.
Mr. NORWAY felt bound to say, they found from Sir
Colman's statements that he was still ready to go with the
people, and he was deserving of their best thanks. There
was not now the slightest ground for impeachment against
him. But the question naturally arose what were they to
do ? They went with Sir William almost to the last man,
but still their enemies were in the field, and canvassing
actively north, south, east, and west.
Sir bOLMAN RASHLEIGH stated that he had already
circulated notices in different places, calling upon the
voters not to pledge themselves to Lord Eliot, and assur-
ing them that a candidate would come forward to oppose
him on the liberal interest, and that active measures would
be taken by the friends of Reform.
Mr. HOCICUN felt, with Sir William Molesworth, that
they must obtain a full and efficient reform of the Haase
of Lords ; and that nothing but the ballot would prevent
agricultural districts of this country falling completely under
the aristocratic nomination. It would be quite unneces-
sary to say a word as to the propriety of a parting address
to Sir William Molesworth, which he held in his hand, and
which, without any further observation, he begged to pro-
pose for adoption. The address having been read,
Mr. NORWAY seconded the address. When they read
Sir William's address, they considered him dismissed from
the representation ; and, in whatever way his dismissal took
place, they still felt it must be a disgrace. And a disgrace
it would be to them to have dismissed such a man.—(We
don't dismiss him !) He was confident at the time that an
exertion of public spirit on their part would recal him ; but
when he came to consider, he must not say his desertion,
but the lukewarmness manifested towards him, and its con-
sequences, he felt all the hopelessness of the task. How-
ever they might regret it, his noble-spirited retirement must
be acquiesced in ; and the determination had been again
come to, that all classes of Reformers should unite to sup-
port a man of liberal principles, and to prevent the county
from once more falling into the hands of the Tories. It
should he their watchword in the battle—their gathering
cry to the action—the many shall not be subject to the
few. This was the principle recognised by the Reform' Bill,
when the franchise was distributed to the great body of the
people.—(Hear.) This was the principle which led Sir
W. Molesworth to demand the ballot. And above
all, it was the principle which led him fear-
lessly to threaten a reform of the House of Lords.
It was idle for the Whigs to assert principles in the House
of Commons, and yet refuse to insist on their recognition
in the House of Lords. Reform of the House of Com-
mons necessarily implies a Reform of the House of Lords.
All power was at present in the hands of the irresponsible
House of Peers. Unless that House were re-modelled,
and on a liberal plan, a reform of the other House was in-
deed of but little worth. Let them either introduce the
principle of the responsibility of Lords, or give up the
prospects of Reform. He thought it right that their feel-
ings should be known, particularly on these two points—
Pecrame Reform and Vote by Ballot. It was perfectly clear
that their first duty was to secure the seat of Sir William
Trelawny, the tried friend of the people. He had gone
Land in hand with Sir William Molesworth, and baying se-
cured him, let tliern go to the next best man they could
obtain. The Tories, they had heard, were already on foot,
and having sent a requisition to Lord Eliot, he was now in
the field, No doubt his Lordship has considerably im-
proved in his knowledge of military tactics during his recent
mission from the high and puissant Arthur, Duke of Wel-
lington, to the arch tyrant, Don Carlos ; yet they would
not surely be intimidated by the man who had received so
severe a check from that mirror of Knighthood, Sir Samuel
Spry—(Great laughter)—and it would go hard indeed, if
they could not give him a harder blow.—(Laughter.)
The address to Sir Wm. Molesworth was put from the
chair and carried unanimously, and with every mark of
respect.

SIR COLMAN RASHLEIGH meant to say distinctly that
if what he (Mr. Norway) had said with respect to the
Ballot and the Reform of the House of Lords, merely ex-
pressed his own sentiments, or those of the Meeting, he
could make no objection ; but if he was to understand that
the person hereafter to be brought forward as a candidate,
and in the bringing forward of whom be should perhaps be
instrumental, was to be required to go such lcngth—(No,
no)—he must disavow his concurrence on his part. He
could assure them that their choice was limited, and that
want of union and decision would inevitably let Lord
Eliot walk over the course.
Mr. NORWAY and Mr. ROSEVEAR both observed that
the object was rather to express the march of opinion
among the constituency, than any view of binding any can-
didate on that meeting to such opinions.
Mr. ROSEVEAR hoped Sir Colman would now go on
happily with them as he used to before.—[Sir Colman,
with evident feeling, replied that he hoped so too ; it would
break his heart if he did not ; and he would rather break
his heart than break his faith.] One difficulty they would
have to contend with had just struck him—the power of
the purse would be brought to bear against them. One
fact he must state, in justice to Sir William Molesworth ;
he had received a letter from Mr. Woolcombe, on his part,
stating Sir William's readiness to support Sir W.Trelawny,
or any Liberal candidate, containing his subscription, the
handsome sum of 2001.—(Great applause.) Mr. Rose-
vear here observed that it was not so very difficult a mat-
ter to fight the Tories, if they would but all go on together.
Sir COLMAN RASHLEIGH then rose, and said he was
about to take a rather strong step ; they were losing pre-
cious time. He might as well say at once that the person
he had in view, although he could not answer for his ac-
cepting their offer, was Sir. Hussey Vivian, who it should
be recollected was a Member of the Government, as
Master-General of the Ordnance, and therefore would
not, for the sake of the Government, be inclined to start
without a very strong probability of being returned, as it
was well known that Lord John Russell's defeat in Devon-
shire bad been greatly prejudicial to the Administration.
A Resolution, expressive of the satisfaction of the
Meeting at Sir Colman Rashleigh, s explanation, &C., having
been unanimously agreed to,
A requisition was then drawn up to Sir Hussey Vivian,
and immediately received many signatures.—Sir Colman
Rashleigh then took leave, and was loudly cheered.
The evening drawing in, the meeting adjourned back to
the New Inn, where the resolution relative to Sir William
Trelawney was passed with unanimity and approbation.

His Grace the Duke of Beaufort, has arrived at
Swansea, Glamorganshire'
andproceeds on a visit, together
with the Duchess, for a few days, to Kilvrouch Castle, the seat
of Thomas
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and
inthinttreadty for the sale of a considerable part of his
and 40,000 i. that of the county, amounting to between 30
property, Which
The Grand
of Wirtembarn
arrived at his does not include any part of his mineral
d is very valuable, and daily becoming more so.
Duke Michael of Russia and the Duke
Frankfort
flith several other distinguished personages,
The Princess
Wiesbaden.
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Prince Esterhazy;e.t,'
on the termination of the
tdon the 17th inst.
ii has returned to Paris from
urns to this country immediately
rejoicings for the coronation of the
Emperor and
.Empress of
this country is with the view astfria. His Excellency's visit to
W up his affairs, and re-
moving his establishment from Ctiillin duties
House. His Excel-
lency will not resume Isis diplomatic at the British Court.
expected The Duke of Norfolk is
Suffolk,
to leave town on
rn,
Monday next, for his seat, Fornha
At the Common Council held at Liverpool
the followingrpool on Wed-
nesday last a motion was put and carried to
effect :_,4 That after the Ist of February next all expenses
hitherto incurred by the Corporation churches • keeping up
their establishments shall not be paid unless tilt:yr'
are such as
the Corporation are legally liable for."

LONDON,
SATURDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 24, 1836.

A Meeting of Reformers---some report of which will
be found in another part of The Sun—took place a
few days since at St. Mabyn, for the purpose of
selecting a candidate for the representation of East
Cornwall, in the room of Sir WILLIAM MOLES-
WORTH, who, it may be remembered. has intimated
his intention of resigning. At this Meeting it was
proposed to call on Sir WILLIAM TRELAWNEY and
Sir HussEY VIVIAN, both excellent Reformers, the
former especially, in order that the Tories might be
frustrated in their attempts to smuggle in a candidate
of their own. It gives us pleasure to state that the
opinions expressed at this Meeting were of the most
decided character, each speaker vieing with the other
in the declaration of his attachment to Reform, in
its most comprehensive sense. The remarks of Mr.
NORWAY in particular on this subject were admirable.
He observed that Reform in the Commons was of
little or no avail, unless it were followed up by Reform
in the Lords. This is true to the letter, as the expe-
rience of the last two sessions, during which the two
Houses have been playing a game at cross-purposes
with each other, abundantly proves. If Reform is to
be a substance instead of a sound—something to feel
the positive benefit of, instead of merely to prattle
about ; the Upper House must be brought within reach
of the popular influences. As at present constituted,
it stands an isolated body in the country ; having few
or no sympathies in common with the people, whose
existence it scarcely condescends to recognize.
Sooner may men expect to gather grapes from
thistles, than to reap the full harvest of Reform,
so long as the Lords possess those irresponsible
privileges which years of Tory migovernment have
enabled them to exercise, just as suits their caprices.
Time, we are told, changes all things ; but the ETND-
nuRsT-led Lords are an exception to this rule. The
intolerant spirit with which they were cussed years
since, they are cursed with still. We agree, there-
fore, with the opinions expressed, by Mr. LEADER,
in Taunton, and by Mr. NORWAY, in St. Mabyn,
that the Lords must be reformed, and that the sooner
this Reform is set about, the better. While on this
subject, we cannot do better than quote a portion
of the address which is shortly to be presented to Sir
WILLIAM MOLESWORTH by his East Cornwall con-
stituents. There is a stern, significant meaning in every
line of it. " We ,have seen in you," say the electors,
" the able and perseVering opponent of all aristocratic
abuses—the steady friend of all real Reforms both in
Church and State—the supporter of retrenchment and
economy in all branches of the Government—the
enlightened advocate of the Ballot ; and—what is
not the least of your merit in our eyes— a friend to
the thorough Reform of the House of Lords."

We beg the attention of our readers to that part of
the proceedings of the Common Council of the City
of London yesterday, which relates to the contemplated
improvements at the west end of Cheapside. It ap-
pears that the City Lands Committee, to whom the
matter had been referred, recommended that the letting
of the ground for building in this quarter should not
be any longer delayed. This recommendation, we are
happy to say, was over-ruled, by a large majority, in
favour of a motion made by Mr. R. L. JONES, the
able mid enlightened Chairman of the Committee, who
superintended the building of London Bridge, and the
other improvements lately made in the City ; the effect
of which motion was to leave the question in statu quo
for the present, with the view of extending the sphere
of operations. This we think a very judicious mode of
proceeding, and we trust Mr. JONES'S views will be
carried into effect.

It is quite evident to any one that has even half
an eye in his head, that the houses which now jut out
in so unsightly and inconvenient a manner between St.
Martin's-le-Grand and St. Paul's church-yard, must
come down. We are really surprised that any plan—
bearing to be a plan of improvement—of which this
was not a main feature, should ever have been devised.
It would have been infinitely better to have let things
remain as they were. If traffic Was obstructed in the
very throat of the city, and the view of St. Paul's, the
grandest ornament of the metropolis, intercepted, it
was at least by a substantial pile of brick and mortar
that this was done—note it is by a single tenement
which makes a supremely ridiculous figure de-
prived of the support it received from its neigh-
hours. If the matter should be patched, up Jas
the Committee recommend, the west-end of Cheap-