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Author of " The Pleasures of Hope."

House should be accommodated with necessary

veniences, in going to and coming from Westminster
Abbey, and whilst they were there, at the solemnity of
their Majesties' Coronation, and what order should t e oh-
served therein. They further stated, sufficient accomme.
dation had been provided in the Abbey for the Members
of the House, and that such accommodation was, according
to the report of the Surveyor-General, perfectly strong and
suftleient.—(A laugh.) The Committee then stated that
they had come to the follouing resolutions :—That the
House should attend at eight o'clock in the morning of the
day of their Majesties' Coronation ; that the Members
should attend at the Coronation in Court dresses; and that
in proceeding to the Abbey, the Members should go two
abreast, without crowding.—(A laugh.)
Mi. Alderman WOOD said that as Aldermen were
generally anxious about their bodily comforts, he supposed
that it would be neither disorderly nor inconsistent on his
part to inquire whether, as the Committee had reported
that Members should be in their places in that House so
early as eight o'clock in the morning, they had taken the
precaution of providing a breakfast for them.—(A laugh.)
Mr. JAMES wished to take that opportunity, as be
had not been present last evening when the at bject was
brought before the House, to express his sentimc its with
regard to the great expenditure which the estimate for the

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Coronation would entail on the country.
The SPEAKER sJid that it would be more regular for
the Hon. 111 spress his opinions on this subject
when the report PoOrstittee of Supply should be
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Mr. JAMES said that the report of the Committee
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o'clock in the morning, when all the reporters would be
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less to ssy any thing about it.
The SPEAKER repeated, that the regular time for the
Hon. Member to express his sentiments with regard to the
estimate in question was when the report of the Committee

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

The Hight Hon. J. Abercrombie, T. Drummond, Esg.
Lord Chief Baron of Scotland. J. E. Drinkwater,

HOUSE OF L ORDS, SEP7•E.IfREI: 1.

The LORD CHANCELLOR gave notice, that he
would on Monday introduce a Bill to amend certain defects
in the process of the Ecclesiastical Courts.
On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, an address
was voted to his Majesty, for a copy of the third report of
the Common Law Commissioners.—Adjourned.

should be brought up.
Mr. JAMES held in his hand the printed estimate,
which had been distributed that morning, and was not
aware of its being brought forward last night, or he would

have attended in his place.
Lord ALTHORP said that the sum total of the estimate
for the Coronation had no relation whatever with the vote
to which the House was now called upon to agree. The
Hon. Gentleman would have an ample opportunity for die.
cussing that estimate when the report of the Committee
should be presented, and the circumstance to which he had
alluded, as inducing him to discuss that estimate now, was
perfectly disorderly.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. JAMES said, the more he considered such a vote
as that of 50,000/. fur the expence of the Coronation, the
more he was convinced—(Cries of " Order, order.")
The SPEAKER, interrupting the Hon. Member, was
sure that he must perceive that the general feeling of the
House was, that this question should not be discussed on
this occasion, but that its discussion should be postponed
to the regular opportunity, which would be afforded on
the bringing up of the report of the Committee.
Mr. JAMES still thought that it might be just as con-
venient for the House to hear the observations which
he had to make on this occasion. He was about to ex-
press opinions in unison with those of some Hon. Mem-
bers about him, at least with those of the Hon. Member

HO USE OF COMMONS, SEPTEMBER 1.

It was appointed, on this day, to ballot for a Committee
to inquire into ti.e Bandon-bridge election petition, and the
gallery was not, in consequence, opened until four o'clock.
We understand that no ballot took place, the parties having
agreed to a compromise.
Mr. LAMBERT presented a petition from the Roman
Catholics of New Robs, against the Kildare-street (Dub-
lin) grant.
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from a
number of owners of craft on the t iver Thames, in favour
of the Steam-boat Regulation Bill. The Hon. Alderman
also presented two similar petitions from watermen plying
on the Thames.

Sir C. FORBES presented a petition from the Hindoos,
Parsee•, and Mahometans, natives of the East Indies, and
inhabitants of the island of Bombay, praying that all his
Majesty's subjec.s, being natives of India, should be de-
clared eligible to serve on grand juries ; that the trial by
jury in civil cases, in his Majesty's courts of justice in the
three presidencies, should be established,—that the natives
should be declared eligible to serve on such juries, as they
at present did on petit juries, in all criminal trials in his
Majesty's Courts in India,—and that they might be al-
lowed to act as Justices of the Peace, in conjunction with
British magistrates. The Hon. Baronet, at some length,
supported the claims of the petitioners to the immunities
fur which they prayed.
Sir J. MALCOLM admitted that the persons who had
signed the petition were as well known for their respecta-
bility and intelligence as fur their wealth. Some of them
had been for many years amongst hit best friends. He
wished, therefore, to see them favoured in their just sphere.
He believed they were well qualified to act in the capacity
of jurors ; but it was another matter to preside as Justices
of the Peace. That power. he presumed, had been with-
held on account of their deficiency in a knowledge of Bri-
tish law. He had himself recommended them to be
joined in administering the law, with reference to police
matters ; but from their want of knowledge of the Bri-
tish law, it was found the plan could not succeed. He,
however, heartily concurred in the principal points con-
tained in the petition.
Mr. HUME hoped, as he saw the Right Hon. the Pre-
sident of the Board of Controul in his place, that he
should hear from him the intention of Government to ex-
tend to the population referred to in the petition those pri-
vileges which the petitioners prayed the Legislature to con-
fer on them.
At this stage of the discussion, Mr. Justice LITTLE-
DALE, accompanied by another Judge, and one of the
Masters in Chancery, announced to the House that the
House of Loris had agreed to the Duchess of Kent's An..
nuity Bill.
The discussion was then resumed.
Mr. O'CONNELL supported the prayer of the petition.
That for which the petitioners called ought to be conceded,
fur it was notorious that at present the law was very im_
perfectly administered in India.
Sir J. MALcoaar and Mr. O'CONNELL explained.
Mr. C. GRANT did not at present mean to enter into
the details connect, d with this subject. There was, he
understood, another petition about to be presented by an
Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Hume) from the same
parties, or from parties similarly situated, which petition
embraced not only the same topics, but also others of a
very important nature. He was very glad to perceive
that these petitions from the East Indies were addressed
to the House of Commons, because it proved that his Ma-
jesty's subjects in the east looked with confidence to Par_
liament for an amelioration of their condition—(Hear)
—and he trusted they would find that their expectations
had not ultimately been disappointed.—(Hear, hear.)
lion. Members must be aware that, at the present mo-
ment, an inquiry was in process up stairs, which entered
deeply into all the great and important topics to which this
petition referred—that of extending the trial by jury, the
general judicial system of India, the establishment of the
King's Courts throughout that country, and the adoption,
as far as possible, in those Courts, and throughout India,
of the English language,—all the topics were embraced
by that inquiry. These subjects naturally occupied touch
of the attention of the Committee up-stairs ; nor was the
minor subject, the right of serving on Grdnd Juries, though
comparatively of less importance, forgotten. Upon this
latter subject, if the pressure of business had not prevented
it, he had meant to have made a proposition, as well as
with reference to another point—namely, the admission
of natives to serve on juries for the trial of Christians.
The original cause which occasioned the right to sit on
juries not to be more extensive was, the actual paucity of
persons who were supposed to be fit to serve on juries.
He was most anxious to contribute, by every means in
his power, to raise the character of his Majesty's subjects in
the east, by extending to them, in every proper and
practical case British privileges---(Hear)—and, with
this feeling, he concurred in the propriety of the petition.
After a few words from Mr. C. FERGUSSON and Mr.
O'CoNsmeL, the petition was ordered to be printed.
Mr. HUME presented a petition from Bombay, signed
by above 4,000 Hindoos, Mahometans, Jews, and Chris-
tians, praying that they might be admitted to a participa-
tion of civil rights, and complaining of various defects in
the administration of justice in India. The Hon. Member
having star iii the contents of the petition in detail.
Mr. C. RANT, though he considered the question of
great importance, would not at present offer any opinion
on the subject. The claims of the petitioners were entitled
to the fullest consideration, and he hoped the House would
not measure their importance by the brevity with which
he bad adverted to them.

for Middlesex.
Mr. HUME quite agreed with his Hon. Friend with
regard to the estimate in ques ion, but he was of opinion
that the proper time for discussing it would be when the
report of the Committee was brought up.— (Hear.)
Mr. JAMES observed, that if it was so exceedingly
disagreeable and unpalatable to the House to hear his
observations now—(Cries of " Oh,")—he should of
course postpone them until three or lour o'clock in the
morning, when—
Mr. HUME wished that tile report and the resolution'
of the Committee should be read again, in order to are
whether they had acted in strict accordance with forme'
precedents. That having been done,
'Mr. WYNN said, that the Committee had strictly fol-
lowed those precedents which had been adopted at former
Coronations. _ _

Mr. HUME said, that the Coronations of King Wil-
liam 111. and of Queen Anne formed the principal prece-
dents for the guidance of the Committee. This was the
first time that it was thought necessary to require that the
Members of that House should go in court dresses to the
Coronation.
Lord MAHON said, that it was always usual for the
Members of that House, when they attended on his Ma-
jesty at levee, or on other public and solemn occasions, to
go in court dress.
Mr. JAMES wished to know why it was thought ne-
cessary that the Members of that House should be in at-
tendance there at eight o'clock in the morning, when, as
he understood, the Coronation would not take place until
three or four in the afternoon ?
Mr. WYNN said that their Majesties would sat out
with the procession from the Palace at ten o'clock, and it
was therefore important that the Members of that House
should be in their places at an early hour.
Mr. HUME was inclined to move that that part of the
report which required that the Members of that House
should go in livery to the Coronation should be omitted.
(Cries of "Oh l") He was surprised at the innovation
introduced by his Right Hon. Friend the Member for
Montgomeryshire (Mr. Wynn) in this regard.
Sir E. SUGDEN said that a court dress was the usual
dress in which Members appeared on solemn and public
occasions, and more especially on such an awful and public
occasion as that of the Coronation of the King and Queen
of these realms.
Mr. JAMES said that it appeared from the report of
the Committee, that 410 places had been reserved for the
Members of that House. He wished to know what would
become of the remainder of the Members, and whether if
any Members went without court dresses they would be
excluded ?
Lord ALTHORP said that the objection started by the
Hon. Member involved no difficulty in its solution, for
that of course there was a general understanding that no
Member would go unless in a court dress. At the Corn-
nations of King William and Queen Anne, which had been
referred to as precedents, the Members of that House all
attended in court dresses.
Mr. HUME--The Members of this House then at-
tended in the ordinary dress worn by them on public occa-
sions at that period. They are now called upon to attend
in an extraordinary dress.
Sir C. WETHERELL was astonished that the knight
of the shire for Middlesex should refuse to go in his proper
and appropriate costume. The gallant Member should not
only wear his bag wig and sword, but he should also go
with his spurs on.—(A laugh.)
Mr. WYNN said, that the court dress had been men-
tioned in the resolutions, iu order to prevent any misappre-
hensions on the subject.
Sir C. FORBES remarked, that only 410 places had
been reserved for the accommodation of the 658 Members
of that House. He wished to know what was to become
of the remaining 248 Members? Were they to be ex-
cluded, and if so, was it the Reformers, or the Anti-Re-
formers, that would be excluded on that Occasion ?
Lord ALTHORP was of opinion, that 410 plaCes would
afford ample accommodation for all the Members who
would attend at the Coronation.
The report and the resolutions were then put and agreed to.
______ WINE DUTIES.

Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS--put a question to Lord
AlthorP relative to the wine duties, but we were unable to
catch the words of the Hon. Member in the gallery.
Lord ALTHOBP was still of opinion that it was ne-
cesAary to increase the duties on Cape wines, but as a
difference of opinion existed ou the subject, he would wave
the point of letting the increase commence from 1834, as
this would delay the settlement of the measure.
REFORM BILL.
The House then resolved itself into a C:inimittee of the
whole House upsn the Reform Bill, Mr. BERNAL in
the chsir.
The CHAIRMAN then read the resolution, that after the
words " be it enacted." in clause 23, the remainder of the
clause be omitted, and that there be inserted the clause 23
as reprinted.
Lord ALTHORP felt it necessary to explain the na-
ture of the amended clause. It was originally intended
that the division of counties should have been effected by
s Committee of the Privy Council, but objections having
been-raised to that mode of proceeding, it had been re-
solved to place the power in the bands of Commissioners
to be nominated by Parliament itself. These Commis-
sioners would have to decide as to the mode in which the
counties contained in schedule G were to be divided, and
it had been argued that the Bill ought to contain some de-

Sir J. MALCOLM said, that the great object of his
life had been to raise the native British subject in India in
the scale of social society, and he was no enemy to have
them advanced to employments in India ; but he thought
it was necessary, before they entered upon judicial offices,
that they should be j,nstructed in English law. He con-
curred in the prayer of the petition.
After a few words from Mr. Fergusson, Mr. O'Connell,
Sir C. Forbes, and Sir C. Wetherell, the petition was
ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed.
ATTENDANCE OF THE HOUSE AT THE
CORONATION.
_ _ .

Mr. W. WYNN brought up the report of the Select
Committee appointed to examine how the Members of the
House might, with the most conveniency, see their Majes•
ties'Coronation, and what orders were to be observed therein.
The Committee reported that they had conferred with his
Majesty's Surveyor-General, and bad considered how that

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elaratory chaise to their mode or prteeeding. It would,
howz.rtrj he exceedin2ly difficult to word st.:4l.direction.

in a tnanner ad zs to leave to the Commissioners the dis-
cretion neces.ary to tile performance of their duties, and
a+ the plan was adopted of laying their report before both
(louses of Parliament, he did not think say ouch declara-
tory clause to be neces.ary. The Commissioters would

likettilm hare to arrange the limits of the new boroughs,
and to cud to the old hotoughs such proportions ot town-
ships and parishes as were required by the Bill. The
Commissioners would make their report to flue Home Se-
cretary of State, who would lay it before both Houses of
Parliament, and after it was agreed to it would be laid

More his Majesty fats his apP;oltation. The report on

each place was not to be disented separately, as this would
lead to debates compared to which the discussions upon

schedules A and B would be brief and irworreiderablel—
(A laugh.) If the report were erroneous, it stoteld

referred back to the Commissioners to be revised ; but

it contained no mibtake, the Howe would report upon it to
the Crown. The only difficulty was, that until the report

should be apprnved, no election could take place, although
the old election was repealed, and null and VA. Ibis
difficulty was unavoidable. He would now name the

Commis'sioners that were to be inserted in the Bill. It

had been found necessary to name a large number of Com-
missioners in order that they might divide and carry on
their investigations at different spots; but no decision was
to be received unless sanctioned by a majority ;- the mini
mum would be 16. as-the total number of Commissioners
bad been fixed at .31. Some of there geotlettunt' were
tot-dly unconnected with politics, and:of many .the• political
opinions were to him unknown. Some• of the Commis•
siolere were already welt known to the public, but others
were not, although they were all of them gentlemen of
intelligence and science. Hie Lordship then read the fol-
lowing list of names:—

. . ......._ ....
E.... J. Littleton, Esq. I'. F. Ellis, Esq.
Davies Gilbert, Esq. H. Kerr, Esq.
W. Courtenay, Esq. T. B. Lennard, Esq.
H. Martin, 1 Masters in W. Orde,jun., Esq.
W. Wingfield, j Chancery. J. Romilly, Esq.
Sir J. W. Gordon, Bart. R. J. Saunders, Esq.
H. Hallam, Esq. The Rev. R. Sheepshanks.
F. Beaufort, Esq. R.N. W. E. Tallents, Esq.
Launcelot Baugh Allan, Esq. H. Tancred, Esq.
FL Gawler, Esq. J. Wrottesley, Esq.
T. Birch, Esq. W. Wild,'Esq.
W. Leake, Esq. F. Martin, Esq , Royal Engi.
Benjamin Annesley, Esq. veer. •
J. T. Chapman, Esq. R. A. Scott, Esq., Royal Staff
R. Dawson, Esq. Corps.
- -

Sir E. B. SUGDEN said, that the clause as altered
was not liable to its former objections. Parliament ought
to delegate no more power to these Commissioners than
was absolutely necessary. The ought to regulate the
subdivision of these Commissioners, and he thought that
not less than five should be allowed to assemble in any
place to determine its limits or divisions. He contended
that the right of voting, established by the last part of this
;clause, did not coincide with the right of voting given by
:the former parts of this Bill. lie complained that there
was no limit defined to the power of the Commissioners.
If it were necessary for the Commissioners to go out of the
borough upon which they were operating, they might go
to any distance within seven miles to create a sufficient
'constituency ; for instance, if there were a large nianufw-
turing place in the neighbourhood of any borough, they
might go into it, and by taking all the ten-pound houses
within it, might make a constituency not merely of 300,
but of 3,000 votets. As Ministers could not interfere
:with the cAnduct of the Commissioners, or indeed say one
word to them about their conduct after- they acre ap-.

pointed, it would happen that some Commissioners would
look upon this clause as entitling them to add as many
'.voters as they pleased to the constituency of a borough,
and that other Commissioners would look upon it as
:restricting them to keep the constituency as close as
they could to 300 voters. This was, in his opinion,
a valid objection to the clause ; but he objected to the
clause on another ground. It' gave to the Commis-
sioners who were not sworn to secrecy or indeed to any
thing else, and who were many of them gentlemen, of whose
names—though no doubt they were very respectable—
'he had never heard before, the right of examining and in-
quiring into the charters and muniments of every corpo-
ration ,in the country. He entered his protest once for
all against the scheme of ascertaining by the inquiry of
these Commissioners the boundaries of a single borough.
If it were necessary to ascertain these boundaries, let it be
done by a serious trial before a Jury ; for upon these
boundaries the legal right to tolls, &c. &c., often depended,
and it was not fitting to leave the existence of such rights
to the will of thirty one irresponsible Commissioners. He
contended that there was no occasion to arm these Com-
missioners with such great and unnecessary powers as
those which this clause would give them. Although his
general objections to this clause had been removed by the
alteration which the Noble Lord had introduced into it, be
was bound in justice to himself to state that his other ob-
jections to it remained unaltered. He should not propose
any amendment upon it ; for as he disapproved of the Bill
entirely, he had hitherto studiously refrained from any at-
tempt to amend it. He had made himself master of the
details of the Bill, as his duty required, and had expressed
his objections to those details, because the Bill excited his
disapprobation, and not because be wished to delay it fac•
tiously. The Noble Lord would amend the clause, if he
thought that there was any weight in the objections which
he (Sir E. Sugden) had suggested, and if he did not wish
to hear of them again at another stage of the Bill.
Lord ALTHORP was glad to hear the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman declare his opinion that Ministers, by
agreeing to submit the report of these Commissioners to
the approbation of the two Houses of Parliament, had
made a great and beneficial alteration in this clause. The
Hon. and Learned Gentleman objected to the power given
by this clause to the Commissioners to divide the boun-
daries of boroughs and counties, cowending that some
limitation ought to be placed upon the numbers of the con-
stituency which they were entitled to create.dlite (Lord
Althorp) was however of opinion that some discretion
mast be left to the Commissioners as to their proceedings.
The Hon. and Learned Member had stated that he did not
know what was meant by the words in the Bill—" for
the purposes of this Act." Ile (Lord Althorp) thought
those words were very clear, and that there could be no
doubt that they meant, for the purposes of the election of
Members to serve in Parliament. When the counties
should be divided, the division would be made for election
purposes, not with any intention of erecting separate
counties. So, too, with regard.to the fixing of the boun-
daries of boroughs. It was impossible to tell, until each
borough was inspected by the Commissioners, what places
ought to be added to it; and that very consideration was
a complete answer to all the arguments which the Hon.
and Learned Member had raised upon the unlimited power ,
confided to the Commissioners. The Hon. and Learned
M, mber had also objected to the 26th clause, because it
gave the Commissioners a right, not only to examine wit-
nesses, but also the charters and munitnents of corpora-
tions. Now the object of that clause was to get at the
rate-books, and at such books as would give the Commis-
sioners information as to the number of 10/. houses. He,
for one, did not think that it would be necessary for the
Commissioners to inspect any charters or documents. The
Commissioners would nut have the power of defining the
limits of existing boroughs, and therefore there would be
no necessity to call for charters to prove their limits. The
Hon. and Learned Gentleman bad said that the Commis-
sioners might act on different principles, in cases where
they did not find 300 houses in the new boroughs. He
(Lord Althorp) admitted that when Government had once
appointed these Commissioners, it could give them no
other directions for their conduct than the words of this
Act ; and therefore it might be possible that one set of
Commissioners might take in the constituency of a whole
town in the neighbourhood of a newly created borough,
and that another set might only take in a part of that
constituency. But, admitting the possibility, what was
to be said as to the probability of such an arrangement?
Did the Hon. and Learned Gentlemen wean to assert, that
when the Commissioners once entered a town they were
to end their enquiries as soon as they had pine.' 300
constituents? He (Lord Nthorp) thought that sto•li an
arrangement would be most inconvenient, not to say most
improbable. He was of opinion that when the Commis-
sioners found it necessary to take in part of a town, they
would also feel it their duty to take in the whole, and not
to draw an imaginary line, giving the elective franchise to
all who lived on one side of it, and withholding it from
all who lived on the other. For these reasons he thought
it absolutely necessary that some discretion should be left
to the Commissioners.
Sir C. -WETHERELL maintained that this clause in-
volved principles of the very highest importance. As lir
had hitherto objected to this Bill in toto, be was sure that