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litattliangh the one had given*Ws advice Tn opposition
to one unconstitutional measure, .ild'the Others had •
Producd a letter froni the King, ordering him to
carry into-effed another unconstitutional measure, 1
' Yet that neiaber was exonerated from 'responsibility:
this was not all ;' by not i,aving for.mallytrejtaed •
the pledge, and declared that rejeEtion to .Parliament
ani the Sovereign, Ministers. had become virtually i
'bound- by it. He'entered into a detailed examination,
of the declared principles of the various Members of
the present Administration, and don t ended, eltatawlit
cht oconsiStency they must be friendlyto the Cathd-
lic Many ..of them had repeatedly pledged
theinselves on this point; but it seemed they prefer-
- red their offices to their pledges. Composed of men of
heterogenious principles, the only bond of union
.Whirl)they were held together wasihe love of place.
'The Noble Lord had asked, why an abstracl Resolu-
tion sh6ohl be regiStered • on theJoUrnalS? lie cause
it: was-called. for---because the Constitution had been
vi.4ted—beiause it was expedient that, thosc by
..the Constitution had been violated should
1)q made manifest; for, as on. the one hand it was
an undoubted principle in thee Constitution that the
Loci could do no wrong; so,. on the other, it was
ta.
, undoubted principle, that the King must
ba'v•e-itestiOnSible adviSers'ofbis-aElions. • There 'Was.
•stiff ant-it-her fbr
to
abStran pro-
l'oitiCar, a-1p hiS waS etille'aVourao cotinr&-fa the.
effea -W flich the exchange"Of 'a strong T GovernMent
fait a woak Go' erinnent must haVe on our'reliations
with Forei-n PoWers. • -- - •
Lo-;(/ Mt%LGRAYYE, in a sroch of considerable
• let gth, opposed theßesolution,which; he cOntelided;
roundea oo no precedent-. _ 'Looking back to the
year 1803, when Very violent measurer were pro:.
poStd on !heir sudden removal from dflitei,' by those
who wer.; :slat Modhintlueneed by delicacy,-or' vet's
• fender. Of the King's 'Prerogative, no such 'propt)-
shim, ,as the.present *was bro'aght 'forward: Looking
still farther back, 'When the.Deke=ofc.Mtirlitoito‘lgh,
at the summit of 'power,`. and in- the ocareer of
, vas Stripped sOf his' 'offices _'nay. a. letter'
. vritten in the Queen's ownliand, altliongli that prO-
iCeding Was foildvfed by various modes ct accusation,
• iv) such step as that' now' proposed had beer. re-
sorte&to. He retraced the %•(,ho;e of the 'ctiretannataeS
-Which led to the recent events, 'and dwelt strong:.
UpPti 'the declaration of the King, so 'decidedly et-
Pr,aised, that he uvould not go a step furih r. than the
46t'01. 1793. It was curious i ) observe, that while
late Ministers' pretended 16`14-thete vety Sao pt.,
lousi to, w h t't h ey were the 'obligations im-
' Pc'sed upon them by their oaths as Privy:Councillors,
they wen:. tan willing.tO to' 'The King-The .6-;ii-
icietitiou3 interpretation cf his ~,Coronation tOati;.
Their inconsistency in- this. -respea.: was 7;indst
- With regard to. the'pledge-into which. the
soble Lord opposite insinuated -that his Majesty's
resent Ministers.had entered,' he could Only say for.
.toat no such pLxige,- had been demanded of
Iliza." In the va;ious interviews' which he had had
with his 'Majesty, no intimation, no hint whatever
1!).f the kind was'given., On this subject he was of
opinion if the late :...linistera were convinced that
conscientious scruples were absolutely
,ihe'cause of his repugnance to aoy further grantor
Inivileges to the Gatht)lics ; if this; were- so; he was
not one of those who' wouid go the length of saying
that they ought oofto Iro-e given the pledge required
lafthern—never again' io bring the subject forward.
As to the-argutnent, tbat.to concede every thing to
the Catholics was the only way to keep them quiet,
t`vas absurd-, and if admitted, would justify every
!'1(1 of concession to every description' of people.
. •
.•ne was surprised that' the Noble Lord opposite had
l'entured to make any remarks upon what he fancied
wnsa dissimilitude of principle among the Members
of the present Adniinistra; ion,with a recolleEltion upon
Binh of the astonishing ineong'ruity, in that respett, of
'the !slate Government:. With 'regard to the personS
Utlio,formed the present Government,. no difference
Lad ever existed among them, which, as men of .ho-
tonr,renderod an u nlon incompatibiewith that charac-
ter: They had one great principle to which.all had
-anifort.nly adhered, andto which not one of the Noble.
Lords oppoite ltagi Uniformly adhered, namely, to
*mbrace:the •sentiments and uphold the practice of
at) illustrious Statesman .(Mr. Pitt) now no more. It
*as one of his proudest feelings, that he had never
sepa-rated froth that great roan on any occasion, and
at entertaining the: most profound veneration for
his talents and -tor- his virtue, he Was disposed, as far
'a,"4 it was possible, -.to emulate his condua.. He
defended, spiritedly, the consistency, of the present
Administration, and defied .-.the Noble Lord oppo-
site, notwithstanding the insinuations in which: he
'lead so liberally dealt, •to point out a -single instance
of any inconsistency of principle. On the question
-before the Househecoud have but one opinion;, for
it ;was a question that involved a charge whcla by the,
4ttost ingenious construction 'could not,be considered
411 direded against ahy,other than the SO4rereion.hina-
izlf. .
The Earl of LIMERICK saw no ground for any-
*alarm or suspicion in the state of Ireland, such as to
render it necessary•to take any extraordinary mea-r
lures to conciliate the Catholics. If there was !really
anY foundation for such iriiiataa.tion in the rnio.d
the Noble Lord ivho made it (the Earl of
?Taira), to institute a dired proceeding uppn
a strange remedy to think of removing the
14Inontents of the lower classes of the Catholics,
k_
promoting the . higher ranks to the top., of
the Army. From the .known fact . that two re-
Prnents lately raised by Gentlemen of high Catho-
7kl! connexion, -were ,raised'hy ordinary. recruiting,
7 concluded that very little-facility of, recruiting the
ilny wound be gained by passing the Qatholicc.4cers'
Th'e proceedings .that .had .been taken .by The
of tact Bill Were calculated to make the
• "lolies think the Engiish the enemies ofthemselves
:rlcltetheir religion. He reprobated the versatility of
pursued with respeet to Ireland; a system at
time maintainiu hirrh rotestant ascendancy,
and at g
another time conceding all to the Catholics.•
-r conceoe every thing, or come to a firm resO-
°n. to concede no more:- He reprobated the prac.:
.Tee. of
governing by a caCtion, and recommended not
t..d_ e
discourage nor to practice the. people
Chou purposes.
ti•`-',,_°rdROLLAND defended the chara6ter of the
lecitordls Administration. The Noble
114 d governed by a system of equity very diffe-
.r(lnt from "1k the systems pursued by former Chief
G(..)Veroors 01 that Cotintry, with the except ion 'of the
-1-4°rd- Who spoke early in this Debate. The
4r.te i tit t, CUa : • ntry was the reward of his Ruble

Vriend's paternA Governments and the univeraA
gret of the Irish people' would mark, his_ departure
from among them. The Noblelleke bad parociiiar-
ly endeared himself by all.represeneationa eticodraging
the institution of Ateasures beyond-the Coostitntion.
The exerilon of the constitutional law' proved suffi-e,
dent. :With respect to the question more notnedi-
ately .before their-Lordships, it was essential to the:
Constitution to maintain that the King cork' do no,
wrong ; and it was indispensably interwoven with
that principle that the King could, do nothing
without as respcnaible adviser. The .case of 'Lord
Granby had established this COnstitntional Principle
beyond question. When Lord Granby produced a let-
ter of Chat les 11. signed with t be King's own hand, in
bar-to accuseitioni brought against hitn,the House vot:
ed that it was a false and scandalous charge', tend-
ing to bring the King into disgrace in the eyes of
his subjects. When his- Majesty's late 'Ministers
weredisinissed for refusing' to- give a pledge, thOse
who succeeded Must be looked-upon as, the-respon-
sible advisers' of the demand of thin pledge. If it
were suffered' to go down- to posterity, that such a
pledge was demanded, and .Parliamena forbore to
mark its sense of, it,- there was an end of the Consti-
tution and of the Liberties of the British People. Sir
W. Teri ple,.w hen a deMand a similar pledge was
made by :darks 11. very properly represented
the absurdity Of having Counsellors who would be pre-
cluded • from counselling: -With respea to, the Ca-
tholic Officers' Bill,' nothing but the 'conscientious
inistoncepilon that had existed reSpeding it, could
have Induced. him to consent, to its being withdrawn.
He -cited the uniform eaeotiments of Mr. Pitt in
favour of Concession, to :.the Catholics. One of
the'last reconfinetidations that tenne'from hiM was
the wisdom of liberal and conceding policy aowards
the Citaliolics.-- An illustrious relatiain of his (Mr.
I4ox j, pf whom he was-more delicate' in speaking
had the very same sentiments on this grelit subject.
With respect to the caaacity of the present Minisa
ters, it was in the remembrance of every one, that
twelve Months 'since they thought themselves inca-
pable of framing an-Administration;• when he look-
ed to the Noble Lord at the head of the present Go-
a'-erninent, hedid not sway any of its Members.
Thc Earl- of IVESTMORL)IND considered the
que,stiOn before the:H.o64e to be, WiletheaelliS 'Ma-
jesty had• the right to chaoge his Miniaterseand•was
- tree-to exercise that Tight, and whether the Mini-
sters were deserving of the- confidenee of Parliament
and the Public ? The present Ministers bad 'a ado,
rious cause, and they would support it with firm-
ness. They were caller? upon To maintain the rights
ca their Seavereieti, and they would stand 'Or fall with
those riahfa'a .
The Earl of DARNLEY' had 'ever wished moat'
-an*iously ihat the' Catholics could be put upon -the
same footing as tue Protestants; but there:were
great difficulties in the way of the accomplishment
of that wish. Nothing could be done towards it
Without the full andiree -consent of the-King, and
of 'die Parliament 'and People 'of England. He
sup-
ported the Motion.
Lord 'GRENVILLE wozild. state shortly the
grounds on %% alien he would vote for a Motion found-
ed oti e principle essential to the safety of the Con-
stiunion. He candidly admitted that he lamented
the overthrow of the late Administration. That Ad-
ministration Ams M the train of doing much good.
• •
Himself he would except 'from what was entitled
to praise ; but the talents and integrity of his Col-
leagues were entitled to the highest admitation. With
respeCt to the new Ministers, lie would say nothing
disrespedful of them as individuals ; but when he
considered the frame and.system of -their Govern-
ment, and the unconstitutional language they had
• used this day, hecould-not entertain any good hopes
of them. He contended that the-mode of submitting
any intended measure of Govrnment to the King
in the shape of dispatches •and minutes, was the
most regular and constitutional. .The Noble Lord
here ,went over the details of his former statement,
to skew that the dispatches and minutes fully
pressed the intention, to- grant in addition \ to the
terms-of-the Irish Apt all further military appoint
ments. It 'was the opinion of several distinguished
Lawyers, that the words of the Irish Aa allowed
Catholics to • • be Lieutenant-and Major-Generals,
and any, thing short of full Generals.' . Nothing-abort,
of `the Bill introduced would be a fair extension' of
the Mt .of '1793 to England. He contended that
the expression 't that his Majesty could not II:6 one
step farther," referred to the new clauses, nod the
Bill that followed upon them, and that it was
mediately connected with the words relating -to that
Bill in his- Majesty's 'answer to the Cabinet Minute,
drawn-up to. do away leis Majesty's reludance to-
wards-the Bill. The Noble Lord then repeated the
history of the communications with the Irish Go-
vernment with resped to the explanations that he-
Came necessary in order to satisfy, tbv-
Catholics in
ircla n 4 and from the fa& 'of. the dispatches being
uniformly submitted to his Majesty, with the re=
marks and answers of the late- Ministers here, he
concluded that .those Ministers' had every reason to
think that his Majesty' was aware of the full extent
Of the 'Bill. The one in which the Word Appoint_
meats .was introduced, in order to assure; to The Ca.
thblics.the COncesSiOn of the Staff, was calculated to
strike. his Majesty's attention as granting something
new ; though he Was hitns.lf, of opitiloo, that the
staff Would ne et-A-411y opeeed by the wordC'orunaission.
It Was- now :easy toa see how the miSunderatand
log,might haVe been avoided, and that was the case
With e'ieey 'inisanderstanding after it had gone by.
But nothing irregailar or unusual had been &tie,. and
all the steps that were consistent With the general
preetice had been taken:. MajeatY had . been
pleased to express his conviction, that his Ministers
had acted. froni the fairest 'Motives, and that they
had really been led. away by a misconception of his
gracious intentions. His Majesty's Ministers were.
satiefled the difribulty Must-have arisen from Miscon-
ception on' both sides. It then became necessary to
consider .what course shbuld be taken witheiespect
to the Bin; and as no mOdificatien could be satis-.
factory, it was agreed to withdraW -it. Here it was
asked, in that-famous dilemma so
.oftert repeated, if
the measure was unnecessal-y, why biing it Thrward ?
was necessary, Why—give it up ? Thesaine
reasoning ,appliod to every, other person whb had
been a Minister, and who had at any time taken a
part favourable to the Catholic QueStiOn.‘ Lord
Castlereagh, for instaneeeif he was present, may be
asked, referring to the time when the general Catho-
lic Question was broOght forward, and he (Lord
Grenville), and other's thought proper to insist. upon

• • • • ~ •
'tied to retire front office because it could not be.
granted; why, he rhTg,ht sly to Lord CitSkiereagh, did
:you bring over tlii..7w&asure,•witii Lord Cohiwkilfib'st
recotritnendation, if it was not abolu..-elv necessary ?
and if ydu did think it necessary,
.how it that
you afterwards altered
.ydur opinion, aiyandoned it;
.and returned to office, without insisting on it.?: So
essential was this large and general Catholic Question
thought at that time, that, though it'waS.a period of
extreme danger and difficulty, , the G6v.ernrn'ent w'as
broken
,up, :and its principal ;dein bers thought: t help-
selves bound to retire from office as they could not
carry it.

! Lord H !PRES BllltY, in reply td Lord Greif-
, yille, contended that the whole of 'the staottwuc
made by that Noble Baron; and of the debates, to
which that staternent gave rise, were proceedings
altogether' irregular -and' unparliamentaiy:,---Trie
Noble Baron had accused him' and his colleagues -of
being the first set of Miritst,ers who had. shrunk from
responsibility, ad, meanly endeavoured to shelter
themselves under the witioi-o- their, SoVereign.- lie
would tell that' Noble 1371rorp, ;that he- and his col-;
leagues were the,first. Ministry w,hq,.. in order to.
cloak their own Misconduct and absurdities, had so
strangely ventured'ro arraign the perSOhal eondfict of
His Majesty at their-Lordships' Bar-.—Fie atied from
asense of duty and 9onscien.:q to accepting a place in
the present Ministry; and as long ns,he Ivasconscious
of acting Upoti shalt-Sur-ids, Sliituld neVer shrink
from the responsibility, to whatever extent it might
be carried, to which his otilcial situation', made him
liable. He had always been adverse to trlyr
further concessions to the Catholics, 1:11!Ci
cherish any such hope-in theirwinds.'
hope which kept Ireland in a,state_uf &ontinuAferti

men t and agitaCion, and t`mtiliit was laid 'a.slee.),,.tire
would be no permatierkt tranquillity in that country,
The Catholics of Ireland Were, he Wa-r certain, p:2r-
feetly grateful for .the many indulgenccm for Avitich
' the whole reign Of His Majesty way distinguished
to-
wards them : and equally coniident did he.feel, that
they would demonstrate that gratitude by their
steady loyalty, and filsity the: contrary,prophecie;;,
in which the Noble pawn seemed so much in. lined
to indulge.
Lord CAMDEN roe to reply to soul ! allusions
that bad been made to his .condid.t, while At the head
of the Irish Government. The INTOble Earl dc:nied

. .
that he was tied Sy any pledge on enteringii nto ti c
present, and concluded With s-i% ing hi-s:;upport tot h€.:
Motion for Adjournment.
Lord 1110111.4 rose-to explain certain points 'which
his Noble Friend (Lord Grenville) had o:taitteci,
and contended thati was,noi iii•the nature of man
that the Catholics -would desist,. from. pr“secuting
their claims,-'the"concession Of which they con-
ceived themselves to be entitled to by thesteadi-
ness of their loyalty, aud.the zeal and alacrity with
which they werei anxious to join in relenting the
common enemy.
The LORD CiTeiNCELLOR- agreed with his
Noble Friend (Lord Hawkesbury) reprenting
the present and a former discussion as wholly new,
irregular, and nnphrliamentary.—lndeed he thong!.
the sense of their Lordships should be 'strongly
marked to-that effeeton their Journals. ,As to the
insinuations that had been personally thrown'out
against him, as having been one of those who se-
cretly..advised his Majesty tp. dismiss his Lite Mi-
nisters, he should treat them only. wiih the •con-
tempt they deserved. The circumstances of his
having had the audience of his 'Majesty, he had
stated to the Noble Baron (Grenville), and he trust:-
ed th.,,t that Noble Lord was perle&ly well satisfied
with , the sincerity of his statement. The only
pledge he had, given was the uniform tenor Of his
public life. His. Majesty asked ito other, and he
should continue to ..erve his Sovereign to the best
of his abilities, without fearing itriy, responsibility
that might attach to his official conduct.
The 'Duke of l\ OfiFOLK. spoke iii favour of the
original' qUestion. After which, the Question being
universally called for, the House divided: on thu
motion of Adjournment—
ContentS, including, Proxies
Non-Contents, including Proxies -

rp.

Majority for the New Ministers 8.1
Adjou-tied at, lIALv-rase O'CLOCIi. this
Morning.

HOUSE OF CO:J.IIO,I'S.

MONDAY> APRIL 13.

hour new Members were sworn and tOok the
!Mr.-BARNARD and Mr, GEORG'I7. PONSONBY,
jun. %%Tre of the number.

NEW, R yrs

A new Writ was ordered for the Borough of Marl-
borough, in the room 'of the Eirl of DALKEITIi,
now called up to the l~fouse of Peers, by the of
Lord FlyNnorr'; for the Borough of Great lied<vith,
in the room of Lord STemitituri,whohad accepted the
oificeof.Comptroller of his Majesty's Household ;
for the BurOugh of St. Michael's; in the room of Sir.
A. WELLESLEY, WhO had aceeptc'd.:thp
'Chief Secretary fur Ireland and for the: loroir4-11
Lof Eye, in the room, of the Marquts of IiuNTLEY,
called up to the Ifouse of leers.

POOR LAWS.
Mr. WIIITBREAN, in moving t 9 defer, the Order
fur goinc, into a Committee on the. Poor Laws Bill
iron, Wbeduesday till Fridaynext, in order, 'to give
way to :In impoytaut Motion, of which an Hon.
Friend of ,(Mr. Lyttleton) had gix n eu otide,
thought it right to intimate to the House the
.iltera-
tions he intended make in the lilll in consequence of
inure mature consideration,. and in..compliane'e with
some of the most reasonable of the suggestions,con-
ta4iedin the communications he had received onsthe
subject from various quarters. It was intended in the
.Comanit',6e to divide the Bill into three _Bills : the
first to regulate. the object of. the Poor,Asurance
Fund ; the second, to provide for the equalizittion
of the Comity Rates ; the whole of the remainder
of the Plan to be compriSed in .the third.. He
thought it right,also to state,' that it was intended to
leave out the Clauses which went to regulate tk
Adjudication of Settlement, the Clauses that related
to the organization of Vestries, with the exception
of one part ; and the Clause concerning the Rating'
of P.erSonal Property. On the retnaining parts of
the he hoped the House 'would have no ob-
jection tt go into a Committee on Friday next, and
he intimated his determination not tv sufferthe pro-
ceeding to Le put oft beyond that day.
LEFEVIa. found, from the lan-

f bien ii6ta ak-, a iatl)
intiniation of .the pessibility of a ,DiSt7oltitioti
ot Parliament) ; that this- important bu'ainesg 'could
nett iii the_present Session be dissetiiseed With ee
Lealtnness -and deliberation that were tine to i
It was certain that -the provisions of the Statute of.
•Elizabeth 'were not adequate- to their objet in' the.
present state of thin&s. eliinw far the provisions of
I.his Right, Hen. Friend's Plan were calculated to re-
medy- the deficiencies of that Statute he could not
undertake to say. But at all events, his Hon. Friend
was entitled-to the thanks,of the COuntry; and every
proposed thing
on this importaat subje& deserved.
_
, the 'Limit attentive consideration. He was sorry to
hear that, his 1-fon.'lFriend. had ...any intention of
omitting the .Clausesirelatine 'to the Law of Sett (e.'
merit,as 'he looked upon .°therm as the .most useful
part of thei Plan. • ,„ ,
. Mr. WRIF,B RE4D said, it was true that a most;
itideeeet) and unparliamentary threat of Dissolution
had been thrown out byArie.of his Majesty's present -
Ministers, in the event of the House, not shewing:
a,disposition to do .asfiliose Ministers wished .them..
But it would be ,Imostepusillanimons cif; Gentle.metf
were deterred:byethatetirreat-trone .bringinglOrward,
what Alley would-Other. ise think:it right to submit
for thee4iisoussien and ed.ec;siunlof the Horse:':- Ore
him, ••at least, the' threetenould- have no such.•in-•
!,11 uencese ~He alletved!that the -411an_reqeired arnple
consideratidn and. discussion ; but he did note
that it' would be of service. to. ..`allow too much time,
for then the attention of peisoni in and out of the.
he less particularly turned to it. 'lt
was above twelve months.suice. he first gave notice
of,his intention to'prnpuseithis ; end since that
liettdpeattbroore.particelarly•sinot. the Bill was ;intro.,
ducede- -Weeks siuee, he :putts =~vcll
tiOnvincede*aitti the numbereof. letters hetimecived
leveler day'on the.-:selbjea;•ti.yr si titch he took.ie,is
portunity- erpressing .1113 acknowledgmeitts, that
it -«v:1,-; :impolsible any c•rearer,degtele of. attention
:Could he paid to it. Ifeit should'be Ibund necessarye
the' Bill. might in . the Commitur he divided into
more than :three three Bills. It was not- the. Clauses for
relaxing the Law ofSettlement thatware tone omit-
tide het the Clauses relating to the Adjteeeature of
meo "Settlet. wtis theeda proper- to Mike that
otnjesion for the present. le con:;•-2quenee of tie: e-
neii'lldipnrobation of-that part.of the plat) t though
it too.• t•
pprov Bet I.oh per, of lean
tray be brought tOr..vard-at. a talon: period, it found
eta consideration 'not liable lo the objettlol.l.; 110 W
treed again:;t it-; or it may even now be p'teeeei by
•e,.any tlentletwin :who was so well -s:!ristied-0L..;5 p;o.,
• pri,?;tvias to think it ought not to be-deter/ed. His
motive tbr the onoission was. a- fear -that by aitteinpt,
log' to do.too much at preseet, . the opportunity of
doing much' that may and °Neat .to doite, would
be lost. He wished, to de as Inudt good as he eouldj
though he may not beeable to do all lie wished; •: • •
rL E EBYR E, in explanation, assured
his .Hon;•Friend; that the threat he had alluded to
would in no instance hinder him from Acting his
duty; though he thought it indiceed a-state ot wings
that would be inimical to the calm and dispassionate
discussion essential to a measure of this magnittr.le.'
The Order for going-into a Committee on the Bill
was then fixed for Friday. • •
MR: cAttrimßNE. • - ,
General PORTER felt-much reluaance.ih'being
I 'obliged to move toedefer the Order which stood. for •
I to-morrow, for taking, intocotasideration the 'Pro-
ceedings of a CourtMartiale on which a Member
had Keen-expelled: :TheePapers relating ts the sub-
jea, :which the House had ordered' to be printed,
. would not; as he had been `informed On inquiry, be
ready till the, 23(1.3 'he-therefore felt hitriseff under
the necessity of moving the pasty:o/13;11cm ,of the
Order till to4nerrow fortnight. •
The Order for taking the Proceedings into consi-
deration Was deferred accordingly' till to-morrow
fortnight. -
Mr. CAWttIORNE was ordered to- attend in his
phtee..t that eay e and Mr.. SWAN deferred to that day
his notice of moving that cetni4el be heard in be-
half of the Freerneti•of Lancaster', in support of Mr.
Ca w thorrie'S right -to his seat. - •
The SPE 9K ER informed the House, that as two
Eleaion Ballots were fixed for to-morrow, he would.
(temeedown at' half paSt three o'Clock, and proceed
to count the Honse precisely 'at four..
OlscO:s7F.Ry I r THE.AIIMY PAY-OFFICE.
Mr. 11? AIM thought it right to call the ait•ceti6e
efetee nouse eiep-ort)ell4, was eircelated abroad •
of a discovery settle-by the Committee of Finance;
of some ttansaaions which hal tbrinerly taken place
'in the Artny Pay-" Office, of n nature-most material
ly involving the public interest, and'deeply afleaing
the che'ratter of an' individual, whose name he
would adt mention: The transaaions, if true, were
fit subiea inr the attention and investigation
of delt floese.e and as some of • the MemberS
' the Coininittee of Firenwe were probably present
in the House, he wished to :he 'informed by them
whethr there Wsis any fo2ndation. 'for the report.
It wars the publie importance of the matter, and not
idle curiosity, that induced his inquiry,:
Laid H. PETTY lamented that the Chairman of
the Committee ot Finances'(Mr. BanlYess) Wrs abs.•
It he bad been in the he:would dire his Hen..
Friend more satisfactory information on the snbje&
Alluded to than it was in, his own power toatford.
he was himself a Member of the Committee
of Finance.; 'it had tioi been in his poweretill very
lately, to tend,' oonsequence of- the engagements •
ut the office be had held in his Majesty's service.
He hOwever,. attended since -he had .CeaN4
f 0 hold situation, and he was enabled to
•interin 'his 'Hon. Friend, that the trensaetion -he
had. alluded to had .einne, out in the examivation
of Mr. Thomas, of. ihe Army Pay. Odice. Since
it bad come out; the' ComMittee - turned its
most particular-attention to the investigation - of it
and, this morning an Hen. Member -of that House;
tbrtnerly one of the Paymasters-General (Mr. T.
Steele), was examined touching it. '3l--ie7ould not
say what the Cormxiittee may think proper to recom-
tnendto the Houee in censemuence of what had come
out, ,Or what may come out before it; but -he was
,t sure the Cornmittee would'not lose sighf of matter
of so much importance, and that a-Report would be
-made to the ~House upon it as speedily as possible.
Mr. WARD hoped, And was sure the Committee
would lose.no time in taking the necessary steps in a
matter of so much moment.- •• ee• . , • .
ACCOUNTS TO BE LAID BEFORE THE HOUSE.
The SPEAKER ;thought it right to., state, on the
t
subjeet of a Notice which stood on the,!aoot for dive