The Sun.
London, England, 1825-03-03 00:00:00

lIOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at a quarter before four o'clock.
LIVERPOOL and MANCHESTER RA I LWA -B I LL.
. General GASCOYNE moved the order of the day for the
House resuming the adjourned debate on the above bill.
The question, that the debate be "now" resumed, having
been put and carried,
Mr. J. MACDONALD rose to present a petition against the
further progress of the bill, on the ground that the standing
orders had not been complied with.
Gen. GASCOYNE objected to the presentation of a petition
in that stage of the measure.
The SPEAKER said, that in any stage of a private bill it was
competent for the House to receive a petition, complaining that
the first step which ought to be taken, with respect to measures
of this kind, namely, the complying with standing orders, had
been neglected. The ordinary course had been to refer such a
petition to a separate Committee. If that Committee reported
that the allegations contained in the petition were borne out by
facts, the House had the power to stop the farther progress of
the bill, even though it had been read a second time, and was
committed. There was no stage, from the first to the third
reading of a private bill, at which a petition of this nature
could not be received. •
Mr. J. MACDONALD said, the petitioner complained
that the standing orders had not been complied with. When
notice was given that this Bill was about to be brought he
proceeded to London to examine the sections of the Bill
the
Private Bill-office, and he found that .songte of them differedthe
clerk the sections of the Bill which had been deposited with the
clerk of the peace for the county. At this time, the Committee
who had been appointed to inquire whether due legal notice
had been given, had made their report in the affirmative; there-
fore,petition to that Commit-
tee, f,ar,oars rwealas teccllosteodrae
gfeerirni ns
tee,
hghilisn. The petitioner stated,
that the standing orders were not only complied with in a vague
and unsatisfactory manner, but that much irregularity was dis-
closed in the course of the proceeding. It would scarcely take
a moment to decide this question. The Committee would only
have to compare the Bill placed in the Private Bill-office with,
that deposited in the office of the Clerk of the Peace, and to re-
port whether there was any difference between them. This
would at once decide the question whether the standing orders
had or had not been complied with.
The SPEAKER suggested, whether it would not be better,
for die convenience of the House, as the original question was,
that " this debate be resumed," to use the contents of the pe-
tition as arguments against tke.Aeg.OP.ll Waillg.,,of the Bill. The
for opposing the second reading. If this course ;verip;ursued,
a motion might be made, after the present question was dis-
posed-of, for referring the petition to a Committee.
Mr. J. i%lACDON'll.Dacquiesced in this arrangement, and
the debate proceeded.
Sir J. NE W PORT said, he had nothing whatever to do with
any Canal Company or Rail-road Company, and therefore what
he was about to state was perfectly disinterested, and was founded
on the best view he could form of this measure. In proportion
to the increased commerce of the country, it was necessary that
increased facilities of conveyance should be provided. It was
said, in the present case, that the canal between Liverpool and
Manchester afforded, at this moment, sufficient means of con-
veyance between those two places. But looking at the enlarged
growth of Liverpool—looking at the increased commerce which
now embraced every quarter of the globe, he was inclined to
think, that though the existing modes of conveyance might
have been adequate a year or two age, that was not now the
case.—(Hear, hear !)—This project must not be considered
as one of those wild and rash speculations which the House
Might to view with jealously and suspicion, because they could
not be serviceable to the country, and must be injurious to
those who embarked in them. This plan was supported by
the united wealth of Liverpool and Manchester, and the object
which those who set it on foot had in view was to afford addi-
tional facility to contiiierce. They claimed from the House
that protection for their commercial transactions which it was
evident they deserved. —(Hear !)—lt was not sufficient for
those who were connected with canal companies to say, " We
have sufficient accommodation for you, the merchants, and that.
too at a rate to which you cannot object." It was not for them,
but for the mercantile body, to form a judgment on the subject.
In this case, where a legitimate object was pursued, that object
being nearly connected with the commerce of the country, it
was just and right for. the House to take up a subject of such
importance. They ought to afford every assistance to the en-
couragement and improvement of the mode of conveying goods,
which was the very life and soul of comnierce.—(Hear !)—He
bad no personal interest in this measure ; but, on the part of
those who sent him to that House, he claimed the privilege of
calling on the Legislature to increase the facilities of conveyance,
He spoke the sentiments of every commercial body in Ireland,
when he said, that an increased conveyance was necessary to
enable diem to realize the benefits which the Legislature pro-
posed to confer on that country by the union.—(Hear !)—As
they had united the two islands, he hoped they would now set
the seal to that great work, by assenting to a measure which
would so greatly assist die commercial prosperity of Ireland.—
(Hear !)
Mr. GREEN said, that a sense of public duty induced him
to state his sentiments on this question to the House. Variou's
representations had been handed about on this subject, and
most of those were built upon such false calculatiOns, that he
was bound at toe outset to oppose this measure. There was al-
ready a sufficient canal navigation between Liverpool and
Manchester. There were already rival companies at work. It
was their interest as well as it was their effort to oppose each
other, and by such opposition to keep down the price of ton-
nage. Surely, then, no one could say that a monopoly existed,
or that there was any want of competition But suppose that
rail-roads possessed equal facilities with canals—the tonnage
would be taken from the canals in nearly the proportion of one
half, and so far their facilities for conveyance would be impro-
perly diminished. The canal rates were now very moderate in-
deed, and why should property embarked in these canals be
unnecessarily subjected t risk or diminution ? All the land-
holders on the intended line of rail-road would not only be an-
noyed but injured by it; and he knew a Reverend Clergyman
near Manchester, who would be liable to a loss of nearly 18,000!.
by being obliged to let this rail-road pass over his land, which
he could otherwise have most advantageously sold-for villas.
The House, no doubt, was bound to look to public interests and
the general welfare of the community; but it was also its duty
to take care that the rights ofindividuals were not invaded and
sacrificed by the schemes of speculators, however plausible and
specious.—(Hear, hear!)—He implored the House not to be
led away by a notion of affording facilities for the conveyance
of goods; when, in fact, there existed as great a quantity of
tonnage power as was necessary
for the growing improvement of
ce•,every branch 9f our commer
and When the means already
existed of increasing it the trade of the
dis-
trict might require. Bethat the House would not deal
trusted
lightly with a matter whichq hear
required the most ample and deli-
berate consideration.—(Hear
reli turr
.1) that the le is
agreed Mr. HUSKISSON in the sentiment, -
lature ought not to sanction the invasion of private property,
without being satified that die case was one of imperious neceti-
to the interests of pri-
sity. On this occasion, if he looked only

rate individuals—if he looked only to the interests of those whose
fortunes were connected with the canals between Liverpool and
Manchester—if he consulted only his own private feelings—he
should feel rather inclined to oppose the second reading of this
bill: but, like the Hon. Baronet, he stood there unconnected
with any railway company, or any canal company. He stood
there as a public man, considering what was best for the public
interest, and he woulstatate the reasons why he did not feel him-
self called on to oppoie this measure. He did not "support it
as railway oppose to canal.. Ile had Ira preference, except that
which was connected with increased facility, dispatch, and
economy, in removing merchandise from one place to another.
He 'did not support this measure because it was a profitable
thing to those by whom it had been projected. It was nothing
to hint whether they had embarked their money in it for profit
or loss. But he would say, that those who subscribed to it
seemed to have a higher object in view than the mere accumu-
lation of wealth through this channel. They were not, perhaps,
likely to obtain very high profits, but they would certainly ren-
der a great commercial benefit to the country. The subscribers
were the bankers, merchants, traders, and manufacturers of
Liverpool and Manchester. They had agreed that no person
should hold more than ten shares each; and if Gentlemen
would consider what amount of interest. could be realized from
so small number of shares, they would perceive that the pro-
fit could not be an object. It was the great interest of the
trading community, and not the profits that might be de-
rived from the Attires, which mainly actuated those indivi-
duals to call for this rail-way. He had seen those parties;
and, recollecting the immense tolls and dues which were al-
ready levied on the commerce of this country, he told them that
he would not support this measure, unless they were disposed
Ito limit the amount of the dividends and profits they were to
derive from the undertaking. They stated, that this was not a
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of very little importance ; their great object was the encourage-
ment of commerce, and if they received 10 per cent., (which
was not more than a fair commercial profit), or even sper
cent. they would be satisfied. But it was said that there were
two or three canals which were sufficient for every purpose of
commerce in the districts through which this railway was to
pass. That assertion, however, was not sufficient to stop the pro-
gress of this work. Let the matter go before a Committee, and
let it be there ascertained whether the existing conveyance was
sufficient, or whether some additional conveyance was de-
manded, in consequence of an increased commerce. 1 t was
well known that, under the present system, cotton had been
detained at Liverpool for a fortnight, while the manufac-
turers at Manchester were obliged to suspend their labours ;
and goods which had been manufactured at Manchester for
foreign parts could not be transmitted to Liverpool in time on
account of the tardy canal conveyance. Not less than 1,000
tons of goods a-day were embarked on these canals between,
Liverpool and Manchester; and if the carriage were not im-
mediate, the merchant and manufacturer were placed in a situa-
tion of great disadvantage. The Rail-way Company said,
they would transmit goods not only at a less charge, but with
greater facility that the Canal Companies could do.—(Hear !)
—These were the great points to be looked to. We who main-
tained a commercial rivalship with all the countries in the
world, ought to look to dispatch—ought to look to econo-
my—for the purpose of securing our present advantages.—
( Hear, hear !)—An. Honourable Ghtleman had observed,
that if a rail-road were formed, and a toll of 6d. per mile de-
manded, that toll must be raised to Is., should another rail-
road be directed from and to the same places, because the busi-
ness would be divided between them, and the original charge
1 of repairs, &c. would remain; but the answer to this was, that
where two roads were formed, the traffic must have been doubled,
and therefore the rate of 6d. would still remain, notwithstanding
the formation of a new road. He would now say a word or two
1 with respect to the increased commerce of Liverpool. In 1821,
only four years ago, the amount of goods exported from the
port of Liverpool—a great part of which, he need not state, was
brought by those canals to that town—was 11,500,000/. What
was the amount in 1824 ? It was upwards of 19,000,0001. ; and
that, too, exclusive of fuel, and other things necessary for
the consumption of Liverpool and Manchester, which were
carried on those canals. Under these circumstances, he
thought the projected railway ought to be carried into
effect. Those who were connected with the canals would then be
obliged to pay more attention to the mode of conveyance—they
would be necessitated to lower their tolls—and they would be
compelled to use greater dispatch. These, however, were all
advantages gained by the public; and the proprietors of the
canals would find ample remuneration, since there would be
sufficient employment, not only for the rail-way, but for a first,
a second, and a third canal. If, however, those who were con-
nected with those canals refused the accommodation which they
ought to afford to the public—if, instead of lowering their rates,
they thought proper to raise them, the effect most probably
would be to divert the conveyance to some other quarter. He
made it a rule of duty, as a public man, never to interfere with
private Bills. In this project, however, there was no appear-
ance of a desire merely to further private interast, or to realize
improper profit. The great object seemed to be to confer a be-
nefit on the commerce of the country. Standing in the situation
i'which he filled, he could not but feel deeply interested in the
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this measure was farm:rat:de to that commerce, he should give
his support to the Bill; and if he had no connection whasoever
with Liverpool, he should nevertheless have given precisely the
same vote.
Mr. W. PEEL viewed this measure, not as one exclusively
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of Ireland.—(Hear !)—lf this should fail, it would be in vain
wished to stifle this measure, as there was in the petitions of the
formerly employed in the carriage of goods ;
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ket navigation, because it interfered with their profits. In the
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Mr. G. PHILIPS observed, that this was a great public mea-
sure, and he hoped the House would give it the most serious
consideration. It appeared that there was a large body of landed
proprietors, through whose estates this rail-way was to be carried,
and they complained of it as likely to prove a great annoyance
and nuisance. They said, that, before such a measure was de-
termined on, a strong case of public necessity and of public ad-
vantage should be made out, to justify the House in conveying
the project in to effect. They asserted that such a case had not
been made out. On the other side, it wasargued that the measure
was required by public necessity, and that it would be productive
of great public advantage ; for, though there were three commu-
nications by water between the two towns, yet they were not suffi-
cient to meet the immense business which was daily transacted
on fhe line between Liverpool and Manchester. They further
stated, that there was, in fact, a monopoly amongst the parties
' who navigated those canals, and that there were not arrange..
ments sufficiently extensive for the prompt management of the
business which was constantly in progress. it was also said,
that time distance between the two towns, by the canals, was 50
miles, while that by the rail-road would only be 33 miles. They
likewise asserted, that the time spent in conveying goods from
Manchester to Liverpool, and vice versa, was not less than 36
hours ; whereas, by the rail-road, not more than six hours
would be occupied, being a sixth part of the time required by
the canal conveyance; and Mr. Saunders, who had been very
active in forwarding the measure, and who had written a pam-
phlet on the subject, asserted, that the goods would be con.
veyed by the rail-road at one-third of the present expence.
The friends of the project farther added, that the same ad-
vantage was possessed by rail-roads over canals, that the latter
possessed over common turnpike-roads. Now, if these assertions
and representations were founded in fact, he should certainly be
an advocate for the rail-road. Thus he had always determined ~
and when lie came up to town, it was his opinion that he should
have voted for this measure. But on inquiry, it appeared to
him that those assertions and representations were not only
not founded in fact, but were at variance with fact. As to the
representation made on this subject, that. there was no water-
communication between Liverpool and Manchester nearer than
50 miles, it was a matter easily ascertained. He understood
that the distance by the Mersey and irwell Canal was only 42
miles ; and that the measures now in progress would reduce it
39 miles,.
being only four miles more -titan the rail-road con-
As to the second assertion, that the average time
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con-
sumed in proceeding from Manchester to Liverpool by water
was 36 hours, he understood the fact to be, that by the Mersey
vten.—
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new arrangements the time would be reduced to nine or ten.—
on those rail-roads goods were conveyed at the rate of 10 or 12
hour. This assertion had been repeated over and over again in
pamphlets and newspapers; and,
in
periment was publicly made. The
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appointed a day for trying the experiment, with a loco-motive
were i carriage,interested
the best lomo-motive engine they
result ? After a fortnight's preparation, and having selected
and three quarters per
hour, amid
those persons only were present wh
very accurate account of the business, on an inclination it was not more than four miles and
could
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was
on a plane surface was not three miles
a half per hour. This experiment failed. But when
made and then the rate was said to have been doubled. When

he was in Lancashire, he was very anxious to procure some
informati6n on the subject of railways. Pie met some gentle.;
men, who had gone to different parts of the country to learn
how the railways answered. He asked one of them who was
friendly to this measure, whether he had ascertained the ex,
pence of forming and of keeping the projected railway in re-
pair. He stated, that he had not, but that it was, notwith.e
standing, decided, that a railway should be formed. The
only person from whom he got any practical information on
the subject, was an individual whose knowledge was founded
on actual observation and experiment. He had been for
many years superintendent of a canal and of a railway, and he
told him (Mr. Philips) that a more extraordinary delusion
never was known, than that of supposing that a rail-road was
superior to a canal. He
.wondered that such an assertion

shOuld be made ; and added, that he had, for a series of years,
kept an accurate account of the expence of repairs on the canal,
and oa the rail-road ; and though that rail-road was, at the
time, the best constructed in England, yet the expence of re-
pairs on it, as compared with the expence of repairs on the canal,
was as six to four. He had also the opinion of an eminent stir-
vtior, whom he met accidentally at Manchester, and who was ein,
ployed to procure information on the relative merits of rail-roads
and canals. That Gentleman said he came down as an unbiassed
individual, not as a partizan, to survey the Mersey and Irwell na4
vigation, and also the railway. He surveyed both, and he also
went into Cumberland, and made his observations on tbd
rail-roads there. He had since returned, impressed with a
perfect conviction of the superiority of canal conveyance: He
was of opinion, that a rail-way could not enter into a success-
ful competition with a canal. Even with the best loco-motion
engine, the average rate would be but miles per hour, which
was slower than the canal conveyance. If the canals had an
ample supply of water, it appeared to him that they would be
perfectly competent to convey, with sufficient speed, all the
merchandize that passed between Manchester and Liverpool.
It was alleged, that the canal proprietors had not sufficient
wharfs and warehouses for carrying on the bUsiriess. Yet, in
the very face of this assertion, those who Were favourable to
the present measure, would, if it were agreed to, carry the road
through the wharfs and over the site of the warehouses of those
persons whom they represented as being ill provided with ac-
commodations of that kind already. The Hon. Gentleman
declared that he would, under these circumstances, oppose the
measure.

Mr. DOHERTY said he should vote for the second reading
of the bill, because he thought the assertions made on one side
were as much to be relied on as those advanced on the other.
He was therefore the more desirous that the truth of those as-
sertions should be investigated before a Committee of the
House. The commerce of Liverpool had now increased so
much, that if there were six canals and six rail-roads there
would be employment enough for all of them.
Mr. M'
Mr. felt that enough had transpired to shew
that the matter ought to go before a Committee in the first place,
to ascertain the allegations as to the insufficiency of theCanale,.
and in the second place, to consider of the practicability of the
means to supply any deficiency. He hoped that Han.- Members
would forbear committing themselves, until full enquiry had
been made, and as the question was one of great public inte- '
rest, that they would not be influenced by ex-parte statements
on the one side or the other. He would only add one word, •
and that was as to the character of one individual, (now dead
for some years) an individual who had done more than almost
any other to advance the interests of commerce. Public bene-
factors were soon forgotten, but the exertions of the late Duke
of Bridgewater should not be lightly treated. He expended a
large fortune—he mortgaged his estates to the last penny, and
and his successors should be remembered with some degree of
kindness, but that in saying this, he (Mr. 111‘Donald) meant
•
not to bar enquiry—quite the contrary.
Mr. CALCRAFT only rose to bear testimony to the eminent
services of the Duke of Bridgewater; no complaint was uttered
against him, but against the management of his successors, and
of those tolls which prove most injurious to the commerce f the
country. •
Mr. BROUGHAM fully agreed with the premises of his
Honourable Friend, although he differed with him as to his
conclusion. All that lie had heard convinced him, of • the
necessity for inquiry. He hoped that the Honourable Mem,
bers would in the proposed Committee redeem their credit,
and not job the matter, as was so often and so improperly done
on private Bills. He hoped they would attend the Com-
mitteee, and not decide upon the suggestion of Mr. such
a one, who had shares in the Rail-road, or Mrs. such a one .
the wife of Mr. such a one, who had considerable property
embarked in the Canal. He hoped no one would vote with.,
out hearing, without knowing the merits of the question--
for he now gave notice, that he would pursue the practice
adopted formerly by the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Wil-
berforce), who was lately the Member for Bramber, and
pursue all persons who should be guilty of a breach of
privilege of Parliament, and move that a contrary Reso-
lution than that come to by any Committee acting impro-
perly should be adopted by the House.—(Hear, hear !)
Having said thus much, he would only add a word or two more,
and those to do justice to the memory of one of the greatest be-
nefactors the country ever had—an individual who had, perhaps,
done more towards contributing to the commercial prosperity of
who was justly considered the fath,.'
of the inland navigation of Englanct—he meant the late Duke
of Bridgewater. It was unhappily too true that the merits of
public benefactors were soon forgotten, and that public gratitude
did not often survive the novelty of the services for which it was
due; but he trusted and believed the memory of the Duke of
Bridgewater would ever be cherished with veneration and re-
spect by all men who regarded our commercial and inanufac-
turing greatness. He had called into play the energies of the
country at a most critical moment—when the spirit of enterprize
and speculation, which had spread so wide in the present day,
did not exist. He was a man of a great and enlightened mind,
of great spirit,- and of unshaken perseverance, and he had
a peculiar talent of seeking out and employing men of
true genius, one of whom was Mr. Brindley, the t;'
greatest engineer this country had ever seen.—(Hear, hear l)--•
He concluded by impressing upon the House the necessity of
patient and impartial inquiry, in justice to all_parties—in jos-
, tee to those who had already done so much for the country,
and in justice to themselves, whose duty it was to investigate •
every thing that was held out as likely to promote the general
welf'are and interests of the community.—(Hear, hear !)_And
he again pledged himself, that if he should be in the House at
. the time the Report was brought up, to see that the decision was
according to the evidence produced, and the just and intrinsic
merits of the case.

Mr. HUSKISSON explained. He had no less respect for
the memory of the Duke of Bridgewater than any man, but it
was upon the conduct of other persons, and upon subsequent
circumstances, that the present measure was proposed.
The Bill was then read a second time, and referred to a pri-
vate Committee.

The Irish Mining Company Bill was read a second time, and
referred to a Committee.

Leave was given, on the motion of Sir ROBERT SHAW, to
bring in a Bill to amend the Dublin Gas Bill.
The Hon. Member also presented a petition from the Cham-
ber of Commerce, Dublin, on the same subject, which was laid
on the table.

CALL OF THE HOUSE.
On the motion of the Mr. BROUGHAM, the list of per-
sons not attending at the call of the House was read over,
when several persons were excused—and Mr. Beaumont, Mr,
Crosby, Mr. Granville Leveson Proby, the Marquis of Tavis-
tock, and Sir Henry Wilson, were ordered to be taken into the
custody of the Sergeant at Arms.
On the motion of lord STAN LEY, certain returns of the du-
ties on Blubber and Train Oil for the year ending January,
1825, were ordered.

Sir R. SHAW presented a petition from Dublin, for alters.,
tion of the Banking Act.
Mr. CAREW presented a petition from the Catholics of
New Ross, praying for farther Education in Ireland.

CLIMBING BOYS.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS moved for a return of the number of
boys apprenticed at the different police-offices of the metropolis,
to chimney-sweepers, within the last twenty years. The Hon.
Member stated that his motion was preparatory to a measure
which he meant to bring forward to ameliorate the condition of
climbing boys.

ASSESSED TAXES.
Lord F. OSBORNE presented a petition from the city of
Ely, praying for a repeal of the Assessed Taxes.
111 r. HOB HOUSE, in supporting the petition, declared that
the city which he represented felt any thing but satisfied with
the late disclosure of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He
trusted that the Right Hon. Gen,tleman's mind was not so far
made up but that some alteration Might be hoped for. Nothing,
as far as the plan detailed went, had been done materially to re.
move the burdens of the people.
Lord F. OSBORNE presented a petition from Guisboroughs
in Yorkshire, against the house and window tax.
COUNTY COURT BILL.
Mr. HOBHOUSE presented three petitions from parishes in
Westminster, against that clause in the County Court Bill which
proposed to put an end to the existence of their present Court
of Requests.
Lord F. OSBORNE presented a petition from Guisberough 9
in favour of the County Courts Bill.
Lord A. HAM ILTON presented a similar petition from
the borough of New Mahon.
UNLAWFUL. SOCIETIES IN IRELAND BILL.
Mr.CAREW presented a petition from the county of Welc"
ford, against Bill lately passed.
Sir H. PARNELL presented a similar petition from the
Queen's county.
Lord A. HAMILTON presented a petition from the candle.
makers of Glasgow, for a repeal of the duties on.candles.

:=Ntr. GILBERP presenteda petition from Bodmin, for a
epeal of the duties on sea-borne coal.

IRISH IvINENS.
Sir H. PARNELL kat, e hokich of a motion for Thursday,
the 14th of April, with respect to the linen-bounties, and linen
"3 generally, of Ireland:

SMALL DEBTS IN SCOTLAND.
Lord A. HAMILTON moved for leave to bring in a Bill to
41nend the Acts, the 39th and 40th of George 111., for the reco-
very small debts in Scotland.
The LORD A DVOC ATE said that there were parts of the
measure which he approved; and he would offbr no opposition
0 it in the present stage.
uAfter a few words from Mr. J. P. GnAsT and Mr. HOME
RUMMOND, leave was given to bring in the Bill.
P. The other orders of the Day were then disposed, and the
tiouse adjourned at Seven o'Clock.