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the expense and under,the protection of his Majesty's
'Government, or whether they should be pensioners
on the bounty of the Emperor of France. In thejea-
lousY'hitherto entertained 'of the growth of Catholic-.
ism, that jealous; was founded not upon the mere
-doarine—not against it as a religion--but against
foreign views—its foreign connexionsits foreign
relations. But here the obje&iou is changed ; no
danger is apprehended' from those relations'; the,
Roman Catholic may go abroad ;‘ but if kept at
home, if educated in the bosom of his country,
then he will be dangerous this the doarine ?
If it is, 'let it only lie repeated in order to be re-
futed. And if it' not.; if foreign connexions
ere dangerous, why promote those views and
strengthen those connexions by eiciling the Roman
Catholic, for' the purpose of educating him ? As to
economy, 43;0001. are voted to the Protestanft
Charter Schools ; 21,0001. voted to the Foundling
Hospital—that'is; with a ready hand, 21,0001. are
given to the crimes of the depraved, and it is to be
disputed-whether 13,0001. are to be given to enlight-
en and to iristrua three millions of a. bold and hardy
peasantry. Why so much freely to the Protestant,
and, why dispute the little to the Catholic ? Did
not this do that which ,was_ complained of ? Did it
. not encourage the rivalry so much apprehended, by
setting up one religion against another, and. wAs it
justice so to do ? He had heard it apprehended that
the institution might tend to encourage the Roman
Catholic Professors in that seminary, in the latent
dissemination of 5 was it remembered'that
that seminary is subjeEt to the controul of visitors,
the Chancellor and the Judges of the land, and un-
der their controul nothing in that way could be ap-
piehended. He wished Gentlemen to look more
largely at the institution ; it originated in wisdom,
and would be produelive of good.
tOrd MAnoN supported the additional grant to
the
.institution.

. Mr. IPILBERFORCE" felt unaffeaed p.„n in
offering his sentiments upon this subjeca. He wish-
ed, however, to be candidly understood. He was
not, he confessed, one of those men who entertained
those large and liberal views on religious subjeEts, in-
sisted upon with so much energy by the Right Hon.
Gentleman on the other side (Mr. Grattan) ; he was
not so much like a certain Ruler, of whom it had.
upon a late occasion been so happily said, that he was
an honorary member of all religions. He could not
help saying,tbat he thought the institution in questiOn
would tend to discourage the growth of Protestantism
in Ireland.

Lord HOWICK applauded the manly and inge-
nuous sentiments that bad fallen from his Hon.
Friend ; they were worthy of his enlightened mind,
2nd worthy of the pure-religion of which he was-an
ornament. It was, therefore, with the greatest
regret, that he had heard from his Hon. Friend opi-
nicy:s upon that subje& not entirely corresponding
With those sentiments. The Noble Lord then pro-
'Ceeded to refute the arguments that had al-
ready been combated ; he said, that the institu-
*.tion in question had its origin in 1795 ; and read in
support of its policy, the letters of the Duke of
Portland to Lord Camden, then Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland, with his Lordship's, both in strong terms
approving of thec necessity and advantgges of such
ad institution ; he had to state also to the House a
fad that had come within his own knowledge: in con-
sequence. of the deficiency of builditigs 'in the semi-
nary, a considerable number of Roman Catholics
were. lately obliged to repair from that College
'to Lisbon, where they were immediately applied
,to on the part of Dr. Walsh, Principal of the
Seminary at Paris, and a man of great notoriety, to
come-and take,their education at his College. He
thought that this single anecdote was in itself a
strong comment upon the necessity of such an in-
stitution in Ireland. The Gentlemen on the Other
side were willing to give the original grant of 86001.
hut refused the 13,0001. required. He could not
well understand this ; if their objedion against the
increase was because of their hostility to the very
principle itself, they should not only object to the
increase, -but they should move to rescind the entire
Resolution—and if they approved of the principle,
why deny the means necessary for the support bf the
establishment
.? The Noble Lord concluded with
adverting to the state of Ireland, and admitted that
the system at this side, with resped to that Country,
was radically bad, and had been deeply criminal.
He rejoiced, however, that the period- was tiast ar-
riving, when England would acquit herself of her.
old and long debt to that great and important part of
the Empire.
Mr. AI'AY said a few words on the same side,w hen
the question being loudly called for, the original Mo-
tion of granting 13,0001. to the Maynooth Seminary'
was put and carried without a division.

The Simple Contra& Debts Bill went Through a
Committee, and the Report ordered to be received
on this day se'nnight.
Mr. HERBERT (of Kerry).said that he should op-
pbe the Bill in a, future stage.
The Sierra Leone Company Bill was read a third
titre and passed.

Lord TEMPLE gave notice, that he would to-
morrow move that the two Aas for regulating the
Trade with-New South Wales be referred to a Com-
mittee of the whole House.
Mr. HOBHOUSE brought up the Report of the Su-
gar Drawback sill.
In addition to the Witnesses on Mr. Paull's Peti-
tion, Barnes Herbert and F: Eeatty were ordered to
Adjourned.
attend at the Bar.—

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