The Sun.
London, England, 1825-11-05 00:00:00

THE SHIPWRECK ON THE GOODWIN SANDS.

LLOYD'S, Nov. 5.-11 A.M.—There can now
be but little doubt that the vessel wrecked on
the Goodwin Sands, with all on board having
perished, is the Ogle Castle, Captain Wayntoft,
from Bombay ; which vessel was to sail in June
last. Several private letters mention bales, of
cotton and some sails as having been washed ou
shore with " Ogle Castle" marked on them. The
quarter piece with the sailor boy, &c., as men-
tioned below, was the same on the Ogle Castle.
Extract of a Letter from Lloyd's Agent, at Ramsgate, dated
Nov. I.—The unfortunate ship lost in the Goodwin yesterday,
with the crew and passengers, proves to be the Ogle Cavil,
from Bombay. Several bales of cotton have been landed here,
marked F L—H I—W E D—C C & CO. A quarter piece Juts
been also landed here, representing a sailor-boy in the act, of
heaving the lead—the line coiled in one hand, the lead hangixeg
from the other; also a quantity of gum, or lac.
From the Agent to Lloyd's at Dover, November 4.—The
Pall pilot cutter, Thomas Barnett, of Dover, spoke, about
eleven or twelve o'clock on Wednesday night, off Hythe, a
homeward—bound East Indiaman. She had yellow sides, with
figure—head and poop, and had the appearance of 700 tons.
It was then blowing very hard, and the cutter had four reefs in
her mainsail. Barnett offered his services to conduct the ship
into the Downs, but they were declined. We think it very
probable this may have been the ship that has been lost on the
Goodwin Sands. A French boat has arrived this evening with
five bales of cotton picked from the wreck, marked F L—E S—
.
106—I G--81.

Mr. JOHN DAwsoN, the Owner of the Ogle Castle, has this
morning received a parcel, containing a piece of canvas washed
on shore, with Ogle Castle painted on it.

North and South American Coffee-house.

DEAL, Nov. 4.—The Ogle Castle, from Bombay, was to-
tally lost on the Goodwin Sands yesterday, and all ;lands pe-
rished : scarcely an atom of the ship or cargo is left.
Another account states, that 27 bags of cotton have been
driven on shore at Ramsgate. The Owners of the above vessel
have also received, from Deal a parcel from their Agent there,.
containing a piece of canvas, with the mark of the Ogle Castle
on it.

DEAL, Nov. 4.—Wind N.N.W.—Arrived and remain the
Grecian, Allen, from Honduras ; Hedley, —, from the west-
ward; Paget, King, from Smyrna; Hebe, Haviside, from
Monte Video ; Good Hope Chappel, Naples; Deveron, Billett.
New South Wales ; Aimable Nannette, Perre, tivadaloupe ;
and Kitty, Heswell, from Malaga. Came down from the River
and sailed, the Llandovery, :Wives, for Jamaica; Melville.
Watson, Purdy, ditto, and Hector, Howlett, ditto. Nearly the
whole of the outward-bound have sailed this evening. We
cannot learn any certain particulars of the ship lost on the
Goodwin Sands; 15 bales of cotton are reported to have been
picked up with the East India Company's mark, and lauded at
liroadstairs.

PORTSMOUTH, Nov. 4.—Wind N.N.W. no arrivals...—
Sailed his Majesty's ship Fly, for the Cape of Good Hope and
Madras. The Sc,uthworth and Layton transports for the Isle.
of France, went out of harbour and brought up at Spithead..-
The Borodina transport has been released from quarantine, and
is come into harbour to repair the damage sustained in the gale
of yesterday.
PLY MOUT H, Nov. 3.—Wind W.N.W. blowing very
hard.—Arrived the Rose, Alexander, from Malaga, and Mars,
Bale, from London for Tobago. l'ut back the Matilda, Cum-
mings ; the ships rode out the gale well.
FALMOUTH, Nov. 3.—Last night, about 9 P.M., it com-
menced blowing from S.W., and continued from that quarter
until midnight, when it shifted to W.N.W., and still blows
very kard, with heavy squalls, from N.W.—The men-of-war,
packets, and merchant ships appear to ride all well, with top-
gallant-masts struck.
LIV ERPOOL, Nov. 3.—Wind N.N.W.—Arrived the Wil-
liam Thomson, Crocker, from New York, sailed 16th October;
and the Dee, Jameson, from Demerara.

Arrived off Dover the Symmetry, Bedford, from Smyrna.
The Northumberland, from Sunderland to London, was
totally wrecked near Harwich on Thursday ; crew saved.

COMET STEAM BOAT.—The operations to raise the Comet
proceed as quickly as the stormy and unsettled state of the at-
mosphere will allow. The vessel is fairly in chains, and were
the weather only to moderate for any length of time, the object
in view would, it is expected be speedily accomplished. Alio.
ther body of a man was, we hear, found yesterday afternoon;
but so sadly disfigured that it was impossible to recognize the
sufferer. Tile weather here was more moderate yesterday after.
noon, and if it was the same in the Frith below, the attempt to
raise the Comet would probably be made. A person named
Nichol is amongst the number saved (making 13 in all) but.
whose name has hitherto been forgotten to be mentioned.
(Glasgow Courier, Nov. 3.)

DREADFUL AND DISTRESSING OCCURRENCE-FORTY

PERSONS DROWNED.

A most dreadful and distressing event, of fright:sal magui,-
tude, which has spread terror and dismay amongst a vast portion
of the population of an extensive district, occurred early in the
forenoon of Saturday last, in the west of this county. On that
morning, a boat, having on board between 40 and 50 persons,
and passing from Cape Clear Island to Skibbereen, whither
her passengers were going for the purpose of marketting, and,
agreeably to the late Act, to receive English in exchange for
their Irish silver, was unhappily upset by striking on a rock
near the island of Sherkin, when all on board perished, save
two, an aged man and a boy, who, by clinging to her mast,
providentially escaped the fate of their less fortunate fellow-
passengers. Those are all the details which have reached us as
yet ; they have been furnished to us by a gentleman who has
recently come from the west; but at the period of his departure
no particulars were ascertained even as to the extent of this dire-
ful calamity, or who the parties were. We. hope in our next to
be able to relieve the public anxiety on such a loss of human
life.—( Cork Adverther.)

Madame VESTRIS is engaged at Covent-Gar.
den Theatre. She will perform on Monday next.
BOOTH has been engaged at Brighton Theatre,
" for two nights." Ile is announced in the bills
as " that celebrated actor, Mr. JUNIUS BayTus
BOOTH, of the Theatre Royal, I)rury.lane."

Letters have been received from Lima, via
Pernambuco, to the 23d of July. The castles of
Callao remained in possession of Rodil at that
date, and there seemed to be no prospect of their
speedy surrender. There was no news at Lima
when the Columbia, which arrived at Pernam-
buco in the short space of 42 days from Callao,
sailed thence. Bolivar had not returned from
Upper Peru.
Among the persons bought up at Lambeth-
street Police-office, yesterday, was a man named
Shelly, for sacrilege. A namesake of his was
once very conspicuous for blasphemy. The de-
fendant, at the Police-office, was accused of hav-
ing stolen and pawned the green cloth off the
communion table of a church in which he was
clerk.

CAurrioN.--t-Yesterday, about noon, some per-
sons entered the house, No. 12, Birchin-lane„
which is let out in separate offices, and succeed-
ed in carrying off, unobserved, two great coats,
an umbrella, and other property belonging to the
varions occupants. Part of it was owned by u
man who has the care of the different offices,
and he was in a room close adjoining that from
which it was taken ; but the frequent pass-
ing of persons up and down a common staircase
prevented his feeling any suspicion. This spe,
cies of depredation has become very cotnrnou ut
late in the city.

[MORNING POST.]
The Etoile for the 2d and 3d inst. reached us
last night by: Express. No Papers were publish-
ed on account of its being All Souls Day, and yet
the Etoile, though covering a longer period of
time tlia7. usual, displays no accumulation of in-
telligence. There is no communication whatever
from Preece itself; and merely a confirmation
from Zante of the 'statement that the expedition
of QtEcerS, Engineers, and Artillerymen sent by
the French Committee hid arrived at -tharisland,
and .were to-sail immediately for Napoli di Ro-
mania. As. the Porte will be sure to consider
this expedition as authorised,: if not actually dis-
patched by the • French Government, and will
take measures in consequence, a belief seems to
prevail that it would not have been allowed to
quit the ports of Frlnce if her Ministers had not
changed their opinion with respect. to the
question of Greek emancipation, and the im-
portance of conciliating the feelings and future
good-will of a country, which, if we should refuse
its offer., they hope may claim their protection.,
The King of Bavaria has. commenced his reign
in a manner calculated to render him popular.'
Ile has appointed a Committee, over which he
presides in person, the duty of •which is to ascer-
tain and to recommend every possible reduction
in the .military establishment of the country.
The intelligence frOm France itself 'only corro,
borates the raising of the two camps of exercise
or reserve formed. a few months since near Ba-
yonne and Perpignan.. This is the more singular,
as insteadof continuing to look trOghter, as they
lately did fora moment, the• affairs of Spain are
assuming a darker and more threatening ap-
pearance. The Dale, which isnl ways preaching.
Christianity, seems to he hurt, if not'offended,
at the mission of a British Bishop by the Scotch
Establishment, to superintend the religious in-
struction, and confirm the youpg members of the
British Protestant families in France.

[THE PUBLIC LEDGER.]
The signal good fortune which has hitherto at-
tended on General Bolivar, in war, .aSI well as
in the management of civil affairs, promises to
afsist him in his -favourite scheme of a South
American Congress. The scheme is worthy of
its illustrious author, who, it is Well known, has
no other ambition but to promote the happiness
of that portion of America which, until recently)
belonged .to Spain: The fable of the bundle of
rods_has suggested the idea of this assembly ; and
we know in •history nothing bearing affinity to
it, but the Amphyctrione Council, whilst
the Greeks were uncorrupted by foreign gold,
and stood still erect in the' enjoyment of free-
dom.. The Germanic Diet, the only modern
Institution having. the least resemblance to it,
is only a base counterfeit at best ; for the de-
c.rees of the Diet are only binding on its mem.
hers ts long as it suits their interests to obey
them. The Deputies, too, are usually men who
have grown old in. the practice of political in-
trigue.; and who, instead of promoting the inte-
rests of the Confederation, think merely of the
peculiar State which they represent. The South
American Deputies, On the contrary,, will go
heart in hand with the illustrious author of the
scheme ;snd there will not be one of them who

will not exert himself with an honest zeal to pro-
mote the Objects of the Congress. The design,
however, appears to have met with great obstruc-
tions at the Outset ; and notwithstanding its plain
and obvious utility, it had many scruples to con,
tend with, before it assumed the aspect which
it now presents. It required' all the personal
influence of the Liberator to overturn the objec-
tions to his plan—objections not founded in dis-
like to the principle, but originating entirely in
the pressure of affairs under which all the New
States had more or less,:labouied until very re-
cently. A Government that has work enough
on its hands at home, and particularly if•it has

more .than it can conveniently attend to, will not
be easily persuaded to`direct its attention to ob-
jects abroad. However, Bolivar succeeded at
last in gaining the consent of four of the New
States ; and by the lust accounts from Chili, it
may he reasonably expected that she will aLso
join the Confederacy. Buenos Ayres has like-
wise' promised to seed' Deputies to 'Panama,
though•not wholly favourable to the plan ; and
at the first meeting therefore of the Congress,
there,would "he presen,t Deputies, from 'all the
States thatlately belonged to Spain.

[MORNING TIEIZALD.]
We do not know of a more decisive argument
against imprisonment for debt, than its inutility
as a punishment, combined with' the scenes of
vice and Profligacy which such prisons present.
Viewing them as receptacles of misfortune, they

'are instrumental to the greatest cruelty; while,
as correctors of vice, they only enhance its enor-
mity. Speaking of those in the. Metropolis, it
has long been notorious that the Fleet and
King's Bench prisons have been, by turns, the
focus of all those. extensive systems of depreda-
tion by which needy profligates have preyed upon
the public; and it now, seems, from a recent
trial at the Old Bailey, that the new prison in
Whitecross-street has already caught the coon-•
tagion, and is not one whit beyond the original
Hells, in the diabolical nature of its orgies. It is
not enough that most of the inmates of those places
should have arrived at that degrading.state, by
plundering too credulous tradesmen, but they can
form,-concert, and carry into effect, within the
prison walls, more extensive systems of depreda-
tion than those which brought them there. Yet
all this occurs when we hear of Societies for the'
promotion of Prison Discipline ; so that the hum.
hug of reform in this respect would seem only to
form a cloak for increased depravity. Is it to be
believed, that those who have the charge of such
places might not controul,.or at least detect these
practices were they inclined to do so ? If a prison
,discipline means any thing, surely it must imply
a kuowledge,'on the part of the gaoler, of the
goings-on of those over whom he has the charge.
But we will take it the other way if they please,
and assume that all is done that can be done to
prevent it ; and theSe scenes of plunder are car-
ried on without the knowledge or connivance of
those who have the superintendence of such places.
And if so, what stronger proof can be required
of the utter inutility' (to say nothing of the posi-
tive mischief of moral evil) of imprisonment for
debt? But our Prison Reformers, perhaps, gill
say that they look only to criminals, and that
debtors are not within the scope of their surveil,
lance. Be it SO; but then we would tell these
good and pious people,, that if the. lesser vice in
these places cannot be cured, there is little pros-
pect that they, will. eradicate the greater evil:—
The truth is, that the system of credit in. tlfls
country is, and long has been,.a main. source of
crime, and is, :tve firmly believe, only rnain-
taiiied in the. ruinous, extent to which it is car-
ried, as a source of enormous profit to that
profession which, cc lives, and moves, and has
its being" out of the vices and miseries of i
mankind. Do away with credit, and what be-
comes of imprisonment for debt ? Do away with
imprisoninent for debt, and, what becomes or one-
half of the 'attorneys,.and two-thirds of the. Bar-
risters, together with those pretty pickings which
Insolvent Courts, and Commissionerships of
Bankrupt hold out to the Learned Gentlemen,
who laud so-highly the system under which they
prosper ? Rot while the system does continue,
surely it is
.fit that debtor-gaols should .not be
allowed to be, as they now are, the fruitful hot-
beds ef all that is base and nefario.us., And, surely
that iroprisonmen't Can hardly be called such,
whiCh leaves men at large to,prey upon the pub-
lic to the extent to which it, is clear that many of
the inmates of the. places, we allude to are now in'
the habit of doing.

[NEW TIMES.]
In the English Money Market yesterdly there
was more business transacted than for some days
past, and towards the afternoon manifested an
improvement. Consols for the Account opened
in the, morning at 871, and closed at 17-“, and
87 for Money. Exchequer Bills also slightly
improved ; those of the larger description were
from Is. to 3s. pm, the smaller ones 6s. pm.—ln
the Foreign Market the Securities had a firmer
appearance, and some bargains were done in
them. Colombian Bonds, 7214 ; Ditto for the
Account, 72k ; Mexican Bonds, 674 ; Brazil
Scrip, 8+ dis.; Chilian Bonds, 635 ; Guatemala
Bonds for the Account, 5 dis.;* Spanish Bonds,
17k. In the other Stocks there was little or no
variation. The Share Market was not very lively
yesterday, and although several quotatioris were
given, yet ate quantity of business was not coin-
Jnensurate to them. It is generally considered
some-time must- elapse before a sufficient confi-
dence can be established to induce the public
again to enter that vortex which has involved so
many, and a more intense anxiety prevails just
now to get possession of the money than longer
to retain Shares in the various Associations.—
Anglo-Mexican Mining Shares, 26 pm. ; Bolivar,
16 pm. ; Castello, lk pm.; Colombian, 8 pm. ;
Pasco Peruvian, 4 pm.; Potosi, k pm. ; Real del
Monte, 135 pm. ; United Mexican, 11 pm. ; Al-
liance Fire, 4 pm.; ditto Marine, 11 pm. ; Bir-
mingham and Liverpool Railway, s pm. ; British
Rock and Patent Salt, 4 pm. ; British, Irish, and
Colonial Silk, par. ; General Steam Navigation,
dis.

[MORNING CHRONICLE.]
It is admitted, by the Journals published under
the very nose of the Master Manufacturers, that
the Combination "Laws were utterly ineffectual
to repress-Combinations, while they generated a
great deal of on the part of employers and
workmen towards each other. Putting, therefore,
justice out of the question, the repeal of the Law
was called for by policy ; , for it is admitted that
they were worse than useless. What is now
wanted, is to put down combinations by reason ;
and we apprehend that, the. period cannot be.
far distant, when the men will, listen to reason.
At present they entertain, it is true, the most ab-
surd notions, and indeed they claim,in manycases,
the exercise of "a, controul over the masters' affairs
as useless to themselves ds it is tyrannical._They
talk of their masters being able to afford this or
that rate of. wages out of their profits ; they wish,
they say, nothing but what is fair. But if their
makers were to : make ten times their present
. profits, this is quite beside the question ;. if the
masters make large profits they will extend their
operations,' and if in doing so there is a scarcity
of hands, „wages will rise as a matter of
course. The • workman's labour is Ills pro-
perty, let him get as much for it as he pos-
sibly can ; let the master, on the other hand, be_
equally free to purchase labour. When a farmer
goes into the mark'et,. the purchaser does not ask
him what his profits are,—the demand and sup-
ply regulate the price,—the buyer would not
give the farmer a_farthing more for his wheat, on
being told that he was more than the rent of the

[TII E TIMES.]
Though we are in the main disposed to agree
in the opinion: expressed repeatedly by the Lord
Mayor, that the purchasers of shares in the vari.:
ous ephemeral•joint-stock companies are scarcely
a whit more honourable than the projectors, as
they are equally actuated by the desire of inor-
dinate gains, without reference to the means, yet
there is a view of the subject which has always
struck us as much more important than any consi-
deration of the comparative merits of the cheaters
and the. cheated. While on 'one side we saw men
'whose: very
,names .ought to have operated as a
warning, and on the other mere credulous fools,
."i pleased to be undone," we held
.it
.to he absurd
to waste advice on thOsC who would not listen, or
who chose not to underitand ; but the case is dif-
,ferent when the leprous infection of avarice has
begun to seize those whose soundness is essential
to the general health of the community. Jew.-
jobbers and traders whose names are known
chiefly to their bill-brokers and the printer of the
Gazette, may gamble and swindle without 'let or
hindrance—" 'tis their vocation ;" their in-
. fluence is confined to their own paltry circle,
hand their example has no power to cot.,
••
rupt We fear, however, for the moral
character of the people of England, when we see
our noblemen—who used, for the most part, to
be men of high spirit—our country gentlemen,
who, if not very enlightened, were •as sound in
principles as in constitution—and our merchants,
which was but. another term for integrity and ho-
nourable dealing.), Sharing the general coutagion,
and even proud of showing their plague spots, as
if they were badge's of distinction. Noblemen,
not content with the rents of their numerous acres,
have sighed after the ore of the South American
mountains, or the pearls at the bottom of the At-
lantic ; country gentlemen, dreading, probably,
the abolition of their darling corn mono-
poly, have looked for a full indemnity in
the proceeds of ship canals, to be cut through
rocks of granite, orin the industry of silkwormsi
to be reared amidst the mists and bogs 'of
Ireland ; merchants, regardless of the distinction
of being the best supporters of a free constitu-
tion, 'have shewn themselves ready to assist a
despot to enslave his subjects, or to sabre
them if they rebel ; but we would conjure such
men to pause and calmly cousider, whether,
with all their prospects of enormous lain,
they are not, after all, selling their character too
cheap ; or, whether allowing great profit to be
equivalent to a good name, they are quite sure of
preserving what they.. get. If the heart of the
people becomes corrupted—if England becomes
a nation of jobbers and 'speculators, there is an end
of all patriotism—of all that pride of spirit which
has made our island invincible against the unit-
ed world—of all that energetic enterprise and
honest industry which were the best nurses
both of our patriotism and our valour, because
they cherished among all classes a constant re-
spect for themselves and for each other. Let
people once lose their pride of character ; let
avarice, by its pettifogging chicaneries produce
its 9ever-failing concomitant self-contempt ; and
from that hour, with our moral dignity, will
perish our commercial greatness, and our national
power.