The Sun.
London, England, 1813-02-19 00:00:00

'roust OF COMMONS,

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THUIISDAY, rEa. 18. • •
The names of defaulters at tlielast ballot were
read oter, and those who bad not been present at
the ballot on that day, were ordered to attend at
the ballot oti‘Tnesday next.
Committees were balloted for to consider the
Petitions against the Election of liaztlincre ttnd
Colchester.
Wtirrn, brought up the names of the Mem-
bers, brllloteil 4,*or the Committee on the I.Lizel-
mere Petition, They were 'as follow :
Tboi. Wood, le;sq, G. Tio?er,
Lutt.trel, Tsq. n. Vunderhoyden,
Lovd G. Derestortl,
hid Chas.Fdwaristoue, Mak. 'Singleton,
T. MOtlftnd, Hon. T. Brand,
11. FifWe et I , Hob. -W. Lttuutlas.
Sir J. Shmv,

The nttmes'of the Members hallotted for the
Committte on the Colchester Petition 'were also
caned over. They were as follows :
C.'Grant, jun. 11. 13ruen,
John fl tier, W. R. Cartwright,'
A.. H. Hole worth, Thomas Knox,
Vyse, Gustavus Roclfort,
Frena ' ' sir C. Saxton, Bart.
H. P. Collins, NOMINE.LS.
James Dam:kin% W. Bootle, Egg.
Right. Hon. R. P. Carew Sir Er Knatchhull, Burt.
The name's of the defaulters at that day's bal-
lot were ordered to be eilled over on Monday
next.
Colonel LoNorT,Et.n.pre,iented a Petition from
the City of Orel:, signed by more than One
thousand persons; aphid Ale Catholic Claims.
sir If. PARNELL potAponed his motion on the
Irish Tithes, till Monday next.
The Starch-Bill Was read a second time, and
ordered to be committed.
COUtri:NEY brought up the reports of the
Committee of Stipply, and of the Committee of
Ways and Means, both. of which were received
and agreed to.
'the Land-Tax Conunissioners Names Bill was
read a second time, and ortlereo to go through a
Committee.

AM ERI CAN %VAL

Lord C.OTLYALEAGH, in rising to call the atten-
iion of the House to the voluminous body of evi-
dence on their table, which had been communicat-
ed ,to them by his itoyal Highness the Prince
Regent, was confident they would hear in mind
the cit cumstances tinder which it had been laid
before them. Had the question of this night been
merely, Whether or not Ministers, in the late ne-
gociations with America, had soperformed their
duty as to merit the ,npprobation.of Parliament,
such a mass of papers would not have, been laid
before them. 'this for their own personal conduct
would not have been necessary'.' 1t was enough
for them to discharge the ,arduous duties of their
situations in such a manner as to satisfy their own
„eonscie,nees, without ealli9g for the approbation
of. Parliament. It bad been :theuglit more pro-
per, us .it was more natural, for them to leave
it Open to those who thought they had depart-
ed froM that line of conduct which plight to have
been pursued., to attack them, before the submitted
to Parliament the grounds upon Which-they inv.
ceeded, The papers now on their table had been
. Tirotinced at the inSfanee of other persons, and
particularly in complianee with the wishes of an
Lion iDentlettrati (Mr. Whitbread), and from u
desire ou the pint of thetuse4es, to call for the
opinion„ of. Parliaitient on their conduct. But
*though they did not call for the expression of tm
Ho their conduct in ;the correspondence
which had tal,en phice between this country and
Aattriea, and which had been continued for two
years arid a half (Irmo the bcginuing of 1810 to
the mitt 0f.18,1`2), they had no reluctance to
every information in the,ir, pc.wer, no r(:-
-4itt,:e to submit the whole of their contittet
to Parliament, and no disposition . to avoid the,
fullest, inv.etttigat The point which ought alone
to occupy ,the .1 this night was, wire,-
ther under all eii•cionstances, tUirs calamitous war
in which we were engaged (he thought it eala-
I:1401.13os- it extended the War beyond that sphere,
bitforestaciently to which it had pawl-,
(mill, been conti4o,l) sr,ts necessary. He knew of
mm quarter to which time war could have been ex-
tended with :leo prospect of atdvatitawy In either
party than to the United States of America ;- but
if all Lnututed the war be trusted. all would be sp..
tae'd of its
.justice. lie spoke the lease of his
; ane he trusted that of the Parliament
amid the country; but still, e could not butt con-
sider the war us a calamity Of the first importance
to the country.. If, however, they heel not the
cor-:olation to reflect, thatthcir efforts had. averted

the war, they had the next. great consolation--
that of finding theiw;elves engaged In a war., on
grounds -so just, on principler4ounded on consider
ations ' of such paramount importance, that the
cutmlry eras carried into it wit.lta stlirit of unani-
mity, which gave the best pledge that it would be
prosecuted with vigour, and that peace (thelegi,
Omit& cad of all war) would be accomplished' with
the least pcissible delay. This ciretnnstance had
great weight, not only with the people of this cowl-
try, hot also with the people of America ; for he:
tiiid wit helivetheAtnerican,pefltieso dead to a sense
ofjustioe, as toprevent its frvoing-dne weiglat on the,
other side of tlit.-Witter: 11: would be likely to have
the effect of mating. the war popular with theArne-
rieans, and oil encouraging them to call loudly on
their Cloverninent to give them peace. This being
the ease, it would be for them to decide whether
or not the. war was just and necessary. The pro-
poiltion which he should have to submit to: theM,
would be to assure his Royal Highness the Prince
Regent, that, confident in its jitstice, he might' re-
ly on their best exertions to support the honour:
of the Crown, and maintain the,ancient:rights and.
general intetestS of the country. He should Waste
their time if he were 'to travel very far into the
coutents of the palers4felore them. Many of the,
points whiCh they ellibractlqqad bt:eli it different
flaws discussed, anti the, (Tinton of Parliament,
directly or collaterally, t;di en nn. them, He
ni:e sill therefore intdc,Lvour, its fillortly as pos..
to u nl tht:h.' attention to the latte,rpart of
the,eorrespondr.nce, to :O.ICW the neee.ssity of the
war. in cidling pa the lluiuie to support the Ad-
dress lie 14ropow, he felt much confidence
in dose Ocr:istratioa V. Itich had been mad?: in the
Itts't Roliameut, douhtle,s 1.6t11 a view tti the bust
interests of the country, that if tin entieessioni
then made, in the hope. of bringing the dificrenk;e6

between the two countries to an amicable termi-
nation—if they failed to remove the existing angry
feeling—if America took thedisposition to concili-
ate for a submission to any demands 'she might put
forward, that then they would unite against her
pretensions, to upheld the honour, the eights,
end the • interests of this' country. He trusted
those persons would feel themselves responsible
to the country for What they bad thus advanced,
and-that their support would, be given with as
much firmness its it had been promised with sin-,
cerity—that America might tee they were dispaaed
to be her friends, they were not disposed to se-
' cond her unreasonable wishes. He trusted, on
this occasion, no important difference of opinion
would exist, and he thought the unanimous vote
of that niglkt,ttould lay the best foendation,for a
permanent 'tad hanourubJe peace, If they looked
at the documents published by the American Go-
vernment, relative to the causes of theavar, titere
might appear reason to fear that the day,of peace
was at a great or an immeasurable distance. In
the declaration of war of the President, and iu
. the report of the Minister for Foreign Rela-
tions, it would he seen that every thing was
pressed into those publications that could tend
to widen the breach between the two coun-
tries, Every old complaint and ancient grieve
ance, though long before settled, disavowed, or
tertired s were Isere brout;lit. forward, no accom pa -
nied by a statement of the coosegoent steps taken
by the British Governmeitt. These were used to
influence the miuds of ,the people, in order to
make the wsr popular; had popes. explanations
been given with them, instead of justifying the
war, they Vrot4d hase furuislied asgutnents directly
opposite. The .:%inerican GoVerantent haft intik a
claim to . a desire for peace, on .the.,proposition
made for an armistice, when the declaration of
war was issued. If any-thing was meant hi this,
in what temper had it been erged ? Why, if such
a disposition existed, lied stattniteots been made
in the declaration, false in thetietil,yeas or if nut
false, no longer it, fairness todie(:triged, the sub-
ject of .complaint heving been tfolie away, by ex-
planation er atonement ? The Orders in Council,
and the Riegel Blockades (es they called them),
but above all, the practice of impressing the Kinght
subjects when found on board: American mer-
chantmen, bad been complained of by America,—
The Illegal ['Joel:vie* (us they were termed) of
1806, it might be said, had been put out of the
question, by the proposition. made for an armi-
stice, but this saint-set had •been so preSsed, is to
leave the English Ciovernment no opportunity of
deciding on it, in a manner satisfactory to Ame-
rica, without compromising the rights the
interests of England. frhe House Would re-
collect that Mr. Ilatsscll had claimed, .on the
part of his Government, indemnity (Vont this
country America for all the captures
made tinder the :Orders in. Council, and the
!blockades of 1806. I,le did not say that, at
a future period 'of the negociatien,' this point
might not have been given lip ; but,
,as. the ques-
tion stood at that inomeat, America could have
right to expect that- claims so urged would be ad
nutted. With respect to the Orders in Council, on
which various discussions had taken place in that
I:louse, be thought he might venture to say, that
those who opposed them differed front those who
supported them, 111.01:0 on the question of centiliter-
expediency, than 'on the question of the right
of this country to Desert on Fri:keep the Measure
411,e had devised for our destruction, Be wished
to wave adiscussion on this subjeet. at present, bet
he wished it to be distinetly atiderstood, that
Rli-
nisters, in consenting to a relaxation of that sys-
tent, had never fur a moment abandoned the right
they lied to resort to it, nor suffered it to be called,
in question. He begged to'. be tunlerstosal at all
times to assert, that the measure was not only kis-
, tifiebles but necessary, at the time it was resorted
to—not merely: na a measure of retaliatiott on
France,h4tasone of eonnuereial policy ; and what-
ever pressure might have been felt in this country
from the want of the Atuvricau market, lie would
say, that but for the' manly resistance oPposed to
the hostility of the enemy, France would have
been as „commercially triumphant on the (lottSla
neat., as she had unfortunately been in a "military
point of view, and England would have had no
.means of contributinsis to that-great change which
had now taken place in the affaiss of Europe. He
begged to be regarded as the admirer and the ftd-
lower of:those principles on which that sytein bad'
been teken tip by his Right Iltie„Frieod now un-
happily no more. ft had been modified, and its •
operation brought within the narrowest bounds
circumstances would permit in the year aide. At--
teethe publication of the docoment issued by the
Duke of Bassano, new efforts bad been made to
imike the operation of, our Orders' hs COuncil less
prodactive of inconvenience to neutrals. An offer
had been made to America strictly to enforce the
blockading system, or to modify it in concert:with
her. Dispositions had always been taanifested to
relax in fa your of neutrals the measures necessarily
resorta to, so far as this could be done without ,
proving destructive to the principles on which they
were fohndeals--40 coerce France, and oblige her
to abandon her new system, The blockades now
'brought forward had long been whelly !meow-
plaiped o on the part of America. Three years
heti elapsed, without their being brought into dis-
erosion. The conduct. of the English Govern-
ment., its this respect, was so tar from tieing of-
fensive to America, that a special represeatation
made by the American Ministers in London
regarding this, es founded on a disposition- to' fa-
yotir Ameriek. After stating this, it was fume-
ce!sary for him,to argueoil thts point tit grept
length, pale was one: in which he believed all
public characters in this country were agreed, it
had originated in a Govertnnent of Which Mr.
Fox was Secretary for Foreign Affeirs, aunt the
Adininistratibn which had followed,' Maintained
the, justice of the system of blockade adopted, by
England, if supported by an adeqeate force,.--it
veils nothing more than a'hlOckado, resting on the
ordinary prniciple of maritime Fox
not institute it till in had Written to the A dosirolty,
to know if it could be supported by an adequate
force, and he therefore trusted it itowt on grounds
which, 'masher the: Government of Ann:Aces eor
the Government' of France could by possibility
shake. , `1.•I„, roast aster estingpttrt of the case wes, the
general qutAtion whether comitry hid Or hail
nwt a rizlit to impress her own subjects when Wand !

on board American merchantmen ? This subject
closely affected the interests of this country, and
it was one whichthey_had been taught to believe
of the first importance to our naval pOwee. He
would not fatigue the House bv going through
the %%tripes letters which he had received from Mr.
and the American Agent for Prisoners in
this country, and those which had passed be-
tween Admiral Warren and the American Mini-
ster, .Though some shadea of difference might ap-
pear in various parts of the correspondence, the
House would
,feel, that no substantial differeace
of importance .could -exist. In looking to this
moat important question, he wished .to direct the
attention of the House to the temper with which the
claims of America,hudbeen urged, though he would
be the last man in the World to cora:end that the
temper manifested in the discassioo was that :which
ought to. call forth resentment, He. wes not dis,-
posed. to undervalue the ineonveniencies to which
America had been exposed from the measures of
the .tlelligerent Powers, as all neutrals must suf-
fer more or less ; but America herself ought,
however, to do justice to the earnestness with
which bugland had, laboured to make th ose in-
, conveniencies, as far as they depended on her, as
light as possible. She ought to admit, while she
manifests so much anxiety to protect her own sea
mien, that England had a right to the, service of
her own subjects. This was a right essential to
our conservation,, which belonged to us equally
in war and hi peace. That which was, merely a
question of convenience with her, was one of the
first importance to es, the decision of which
might go to shake .our 'very existence, America
had, in his opinion, prostituted the characterOf her
Governmeet, in takingthe tone which she had as-
uunted on this subject, which was founded. neither
nit reason nor sense, and only calculated to excite
unitist prejudi,!es,which might befatid to the future
harmony pt the two nations. It was pot possiblefor
, America to say, looking fairly and dispasaionately
at the merits of the case, that the English
,Go-
vernment could have an interest in acting the part
imputed to it. , They esserted, that American sub-
jects were.seized to man English
.ships, and that
the persons Seirsed were treated with peculiar
hardship, 'and it was very unfairly assumed, that
every seaman taken from en American vessel,
was an American subject, The American Go-
. %eminent accused this country of having ins=
pressed 15 or `.20,000 of her seamen to mee,Eng-
lish vessels. Could it he believed that the Englih
Goveruinent were,so dead to all the great interests
of state, 1M:to risk a wee 'with America for such
an object? So far front there being any rea-
son to suppose that, twenty thousand American
seamen were in our service, he could state, that
at twit periods not very distaot, aat order had. been
,given to call on those who could claim to be dis-
charged as American seamen to 'rotate forward,
when though it WAS not to be sepposed that fewer
than were titled to their discharge would come
forward, out of: the whole
.-numhee of men em-
ployed in our Navy, now amounting to 145,000,
in January, 18,1 l, out of the twenty thoosand,
mentioned by the American • Government, but
three thousand five hundred, who could in
arty way prefer a Claim to discharge on .this
ground, came .forward. When a shidlar call was
made at the begiiining.of the preSent year (many
having in the mean time 'been liberated), the
eumber fell three or four hundred short of that
which he had jestatated. 'Phis, was the limber
of individuals 'whO asserted that they had a 'right
to be so, discharged. The usual proportion
of
those entitled, to a discharge on this ground, was
one in four of the timelier of those who applied to
be dismissed the service, Three out of four Were
usually found to have nu right whatever toi such a
discharge, Now, it' it tins' admitted that many,
who were really Americaus, froth the difficulty of
procuring proofs of their being so, were wroug-
fully detained, and tailing the number thus kept to
amount to hail the total number claiming to he
discharged on such grounds, it would be seeti,
that instead of twenty thousaed Americans scanted
being ill our service, there might lie sixteen or 17
eoutinued iu the.llavy, metre' y to the
• wish of the English Government, Could the
,flotise believe, could any matt be infatuated,
(for he regairded it as as infatuation even itrAtue-
rica), that England wits'io distressed for men to
Juan her fleets; that her pride would bend to such
a resource, and her Governmeet sanction such an
act of injustice ? Aruerica, he trusted, would
shortly acknowledge, that we had not wronged
her, and feel that the question was---not whether
we should tike her seamen, but whether England
shoUld submit to be deprived of her,own ? lie now
clone to speak of the hazard to which this eountry
Would be'exposed. if this point were given up to
America. lie hoped he might aay, _withotit.ol-
- to the American Governmen„ that he had
beeO able to see nothing io their conduct which
ought to disarm ()sir epprehensious, and inspire us
with confidence_ to trust our, interests to their
keeping. Mra m isters were far fro wishing Ame-
rican seamen to be impressed, that instructiOns
were given not to take men, unless under very par-
ticular cireunistaneea, who rim in possession of
American eertilicates; 'r hese ivatructions, how-
ever, had nut be :n given without ConSCfnUSllefiS
that many of 'these certificates were frauduleetly
obtained, Mid so fraudulently granted, that 4
knowledge, of the p,ietke was totally ineonsis-
teot •With the idee, that we ought to entertain no
apprehensions of the conduct of .Amerien Certi-
ficates were granted ie the United States with a
degree of laxity, of which,forthelioneler of Aine7
rice, every one ought to feel' ashamed, In N,cw
York and Philadelphia, the system of obtaining
th6e froth the , collectors Was so scatn,Lihnisly
complete, that, at the former place an old woman
in One day was suffcred by the collector to quality
a whole host. ()n hq.takiog her oath that those
she iirtrodoccti were Ametiefills, they were all re-
gistcycd ns subjects of the United States, and ibis
weot on till at last the clerk, Who Was under the
the collector, was so abocked, that he aske4 his
superioe " if he coeld stair so palpible a cheat
to pass, and it he coup{ lend liimsellto so disgrace-
coil ctor
Ilt wlis that lit, acted Join,>ti:t tally ." aiA74 Ithe old
receiving two doNktrs for each, and adl thus aVeore
in went 4sAmeriCao subj,cets. At 'Phi-
ladelphia the proeeeitiossit 'Wete ns bad ; but he
would not follow m
Hp this Stateent by a detail oi

Similar transaction!. He, .batvatert
Did America profess to admit that the sub?
' this country were bound to our servie' .
ail
ire)oiydnlttliarlale,rspyrt,:liDckei islgsitibleehnr:)adtt
oath of
,eda,tiodrinAi
icedg Mates, s
t,oa
hiss ti bKjeicutgo?f I.,;,)irtehgaellal
clic; it!
cbcsi net
jacosenetd;
ent thence arising, he contended, wasB
of great difficulty, and be woidd say
they ought never; to skirt the do(
elation, yec under these circumstancl
' view.thecontlit,. of Antericl without .
mistrust; and therefore they would not
ed in surrendering- to them right attar
l
law .of nations, %cinch had never been 0
tion before, and which never rations
called in. quction. 111 a former stage'
~the
_subject of imPressment•
subject of di.;cassion ; but it was
moment at.whicti war was declare,l,
put forth as that which must be,gicAP
riea, or war commence between the
tries •; but,this ..was the length .t 0
now went. • 'flit blockado ok.: 1'
in force--the Orde,cs in. Council
ed--und now it was sid, we Will
war .unless this 11160 CMlCeagt
this were virtually assented to, Wei
consent
,to.an armistice, 15.appeare4.,
) ter of Mr. ,I'Lluiiroe to Admiral liTarr i
p Lord. now ,oceeded: to de scribo yr
between 111tilsi,..1f and -Air. Itusseli,
Imviitgll4l.(Mhra.7lll:set'seull,l7sdle:.clQW(tenit'llig
thing to give the character of tan
matic agent. I;n willing , however,
cult y on a mere question of fora". t
waved. -Air. Russell, stated,
,that t'
required by his Government for the (
t i
a armistice were these ri
n
should cease to be in force, tilt
Council should Ile revoked, and
impressment should. be suspended,
instructed to require,, bat be had no
structions.fronthis Government. AO
C.) had asked 'what WaS to be Unde,.,,
Aflierienu subject and a British subjeci
tiler men.naturalized in America Werg
isaiitiledr?e (Ikea& edigreajletgbl::
instructions on these points.. ln A'ne'
received from his Government
it
carry on a Ore minutes :discussion;
opinions.of his own,. hut none 4110
had reason to think were 'those (11
ment ; and when he asked if he
no projet to present ? answer 161°.!
had not." Under these .circtinistance,
dation could not proceed, as Alfieri'
be bound by any arrangement On'
nd a disposition on the part oft
U4~t,~?
I~e
c;filibStiOttiletalitteh an agent, J'rorn test aal rir,+
to the piactice of imPressing,
Apeman ships. ne hail titoLigitt
tlint he acted the dart lerr
heL.thill r. SSeil /V II k; Iris
id") little"
-§flYieet, and represented it to 1)"1;,,, „fgt,
rative impoilithee to Awericl'
I,llent-to Engiand, That whien
eer to iII
coviion on this•sobject was entertanie,,
cttlit:)griel t Ilse
bare.('fit)l3:ri.::teii!eluiA)nn:,llc'tFrlilici.t;L;l7Get"‘..r3:l''l'l.:';l'
jtn:ttxc,ene
received by tbe '
':"lnericau Governinent, bad been tot)
habit of thioking connti.y. on alt'
ceding to their (leman,ls. v/iis
8s.):1, when the subject during; the,
t3'(.4
69vernmelit that be. had eversitu:rati<,rl: ~lr. King their ;v:::at'e°:°l;?
Won'tf ioon settled, hilt WhCn's;.
had been approved by I';'"l.`t'o'
and Lord Liverpool came before the ilo
they gave it as their decided oPinicuilil t,
e
not anti :by meani carried into e:c
the discussion of this subject was
Lurd4.llollitud Ancl-I.am i :.‘fr.
, airfl ,
~`" 11(4—Three' different rile' bi
citfced in the course of that uegociatio9-,
eOn Uluistort, ; but after the too.jc:
i'
r:i
.tw ratit)n, the two Noble Lords we".,
eeliare each of their projects inadll'i,sl
ve it as t:lleirc,ltiniolt, filar ( lie treaty
ct)ndo-,it)ls, without having 01rycl~f~'+
nue which ought to be digeussed
or under any urtnistice, nor wtis it tots-.
u threat of war helm; held oti'i. ''nest
nit Imp-n-tout question to Ettr I't+ I. it
which was this :--- Jell the utarittlttn *yr
t tll`yktp
;It.tivgi,,elhaertiie)nrsesttrln:teoci:nle. w
mcnt ould he Li tile' L;
i
jin u°hat pf 73 part of lee) r'
people be loana indignant at the via"'
British? IVai it in the kricultir3
more retired tames cm the *Nlisilo4l-
in the E it,tern SLites, where rc',o'
nom were to be found. Yes it slt5 11:,
parts that the war was. toast "rti}ct'rril
was most cried clown, and on tb-i
There the peOple were inost aguinstnitt;
and its those district, it “ppeured tt
bad been given for PreOlootiar,_
theta the tlivour to enAitge, in ft lc. cd,
*Web they were so much intereisit!
ceec,led to contrast the temper "",,ht.
of u 1 Henri and A uto lea,
be no charge of.;:aitist. the Etigl4 :it'lit,l
for want of`fprbearance, he sea'i
prCt one of an opposite flartac.
titne to .go into .thk ,ultteeJ roil
sh,ntld have, what was. in ins cool, ,
elYonsltul:tfeoeftoArlyinejastsecrstolisandbenti°,
spirit of moderation, vot the!,' 113 ilet;;11
, leans, coi7i
the hopes initead of their n ego flp
he 1 t
prepare'for that war in which t 41
eii,
geared likely to terminate; us
ractiett
of May, they hid sent out lost
too ,ottv
freers in America how to ocr

regret, trouliffith
at the subje:s ijlii
service
ott Plaint° t
or bra': its
ace to tue
ceased to om
stun of 'a
eil, was a (iii li
(I say till'i c ,
loor agliOt .1
,tance till ''
thout jel!'°
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mop on this point. Their object,
keen principally defence. Canada, ifi
sought the first burst of war would
been succussfelly defended ; and
!ets had fallen into the hari-ds of the
Avithstanding they had the ad van-
g the moment
not
Avar. lie then
!ov
erninent in sooner placing
Orts in a state of blockade. There
.heir conduct of which he repented,
wasashained;,---they were anxiou,s
lin a 611£,,,er could not be laid on
e the ri:f....thts and interests of the
'Cu surrendered, He lanienteil,the•
the American character, be la-
every nation was interested in it,
the !cable down of her character
it 13ritttiir, lint much evil. Instead
"e who were- struggling against the
nee, she had thrown her Weight
:e Neale, and that at the moment
n the eve of receiving the Doke of
uition of the code of Vranco,
de to the right of every country.
A America seemed impatient to 'jet.
ter. than settle the differences be-
Edlglarid. After. whiting so long,
:en expected that She would have
he result of the proceedings of that
'ruler's in Council, which bad then
he made her Declaration at the
French Ruler declared, that he
and subjugate every country which,
've his commercial system. It Was
'When Bnonaparte went to put
bgtirlf 3t 14 head of his army, with which
t'''l4'l'Y hoped to subdue the world to his
i.'l4'4ll4l4egenerrute, mistaken idea Va,.. taken
and and that inoment - she
't cousitent with her Character and her
to e
.14trance, Alter
fur, l'ectur'e the associat
• ,'4tr observations on the disgraceful cou-
ld; towards. this country and towards
tine 'Noble Lord repeated, that the best
°` this country had been consulted by
ill what 'they had done ; and again ex-
'l'tisfaction zit having the reflection, that
cinild not be avoided, justice was on
; and the War, lie trusted, ,would not be
1441/'re on in the misconduct of
flv concluded by moving—
an hone,}"
.lildreas be presented to hisitoY4l High-
Ia lt,i,;ent, to ucquaini his rvayal t.lightte!,s
1 """ ,unit sPrious consideration the t ape
ttii.tion:.Je by his ov•ii 'Highness's eonunand,
t 4 Lte necoio.t•Ons 'lie'tweeli' this Country.atul
Ulu whilst deeply re'iret ilsat they have failed
t,ot// i'lololl.l. of 100.a0,',11,1 0,0,,ity with America,
./ approve of the re,iitatree' 'offered by tax It•GYa4
liir prettniilno of the Anierienn GoverD"
4 tliorottAnly tho prete.tsious corild no'
without WIC surver:der `of the ao;c:ient anti
i.est4 of the Empire, and to ositre his rte :t
impreshed with these Me sa: satishid of the 9?,.wori he may rely on theand zealous and cordial
lioqte in eyo,:ry 'Ott 4te the Wat With Il.)ilt.,.':.o4l7rln‘QldiCt'l't) rat°ll.i7'4nletels(.;
lonoorable terntin4tion."
•••SONftY Fiitta' a
in few observations- on the
(Council, .reinintled the 1-16usei that 011
'4l, those,ineasnres be had *expressed his
thester, Vita 3 WO tardy 4) preventthe mii-
a war between the.countries 13ut..he ha`l'
-sAme-tiine, if
hohat revocation did not
stdities' t
,-liar} the iktner4.an Q.)verninent
to advacee tteria.ewnable pretetisieus, be
astreaily to resist them us
any of .tlie
moat
Ids to the. Orders in council. The Noble
his speech travelled farther' into these
he would attempt tofollow hint : they
.ed, and had not produced peace.—
was iti it !.3 tate of War, and on :fsub-
distnict from the Orders in Council.
Lord said, that. under these eircum-
41rjesty's Afinisters were intitled to
'of. the !louse,• but that whether
eq) not, the lionse was hound to sup-
toVirn in the war in which it was en-
le
though lie might animadvert on
thelangnage of the Address, and on soin
“)
sPecell of the Noble Lord, felt no iris=
.
u go against the.proposition which had
tted to tlitim.—Li the first place it was
,451 f ("1r Crowe not
4'4 the Aitterican *Government bad
wr and it must be.a strong .case, made
Pt'Wer which took this step, tht:t
!louse of•(oilimons, to refuse their
I,tbe l'iggre!;•ioli,—ln the correspondence
laid before thetn, there were many*
npon. Of these, the principal
,the
C subject of impressintoit, tor the
etincit being given up,- were entirely
anticonstituted no ,round for
3
,4 Papers exhibited the .negOciations in
... to 'which he thought it important to
till 'e atti,ntiFin f the House ant{
.upon which
cumielly and fairly deliver his own
'the first stage 'included the offer made
31'
• If Auise,„ tor an armistice, on an 111-
1,1 ,4 that during its continuance neg0eia-
:44.,,14"
be Carried on on the subject of hue
illittititi‘t.4 this comitry 'abstaining front the en-
iii„,,4le,.}l),l its rights to that re.,pect, and tints
toeft,jolllig that it was clispt,)y.etl to recede
ijorteete `i these rights than be thought theyonght
tr,lie would not have agreed to this pro-
titc't rtYitt had lie heen in the Noble l4Ord's
Nitclub +",•
,
.aloiticl have acted exactly as he had
irtl* u, 111" • to • • 1.
. acetic an tit lIIIS ICC, oil any
4.The' second stage, was,
14loriva,-iiiiitur offer was made, and though
11,„„,:i,41, recognition of the principle t.so
t,,q4,1:1,: )11 the former was required, it was
.
Should be a secret understanding
on rti,es to submit the matter of con-
!th bidesßritain mit suspending
her right of impressment. On
mdieiati
tit.i:ili‘it..4,statif, that he would have
i),..131e Lord ; would not
~oi,ltl 11'r toid`, "le tertaii proposed. The idea
h-ti''''l,4ll(ling to the effect desired,
th7'e ie.en Sttiiioent reason for ye-
t:44lo
()ifY .11,1°W came to another and the
t le
14411. iieg4ciatiens to which he
e 4, 10, •
14,11,1 ()It t.b. Larq 1140
2, ectnent with the Noble
„ ti,'.eontrary, lie entertained 'very
e 4\71. („••,.(ai the stibjeet.of the propo-
inNt, to.Athn iralWarren,
_as
4.1: lit. 4
pilpt'S Before them.
&he At„,! 0(1 the case from these linen,
k "iiree it •
C;it'4e 4 coil • ' Iltle IN nothing
like
Annatnee of the war, but this

difference about impressment; and t think if f.omv:
agreement could be come to on this matter, ail the
minor affairs might be speedily adjusted and peace
would ensue. I oherve that you will not ce leer t
to an armistice on the basis of immediately -
pendiog your rights ;‘, if so, why not enter iiitO a
a negociation on the point flas'rante belle P" lie
(Mi'. II.) could not see what objection there could
be to this,. If he was right in his eonstructien of
thepapet, which he believed he was, as this mean-
ing was warranted by the Noble Lord's declara-
tion, Where he assigned as a reason for not agree-
ing with the proposal, that we wouldeuter into no
negociations, the result of which was to dapend
on the legislature upon bur rights by a foreign
State: lie doubted the accuracy of this omelet-.
sion. We did not abandon a right by entering into
a treaty upon the subject. li' this was generally
true, there coal(' be no such thing a 6 an amicable ad-
justment between countries. Besides, would it
have followed that they must have- adopted the de-
vision of the Amercian Govern tent. ) If 'they
feared this issue, they might easily have periled
against it at entering on the negociation • they
might have said at meeting; we are desirous of
an arrangement of all matters:, in dispute, and are
truly anxious for the establishMent of peace ; 'but
if you imagine that by entering upon thin negocia-
tion, we will give up any of our rights, without
perfect security, you are deceived—do not enter
into negociation with ns, for we %yin not give up
our rights, our security, or our 'honour." -That
a negociation thus guarded at its commencement,
or that any negociation upon these proposals from
America would have led to ainity,'he was far from
thinking. If America held the opinions she [now
advanced, America must be told that we, 'ns. she
well knew, would not. give op the r! lit to search
Neutrals for contraband of war.—lf America
thought she could by .any regulations of her own,
triable British subjects to shake off time alleelair!e
they owed their Sovereign and Make BritonsAme-
tican citizens, she must be told that England
Would never subMit to a practice ,so unjust,
reasonable, and degrading,—that We never could
consent to such a claim, But nevertheless, in his
-opinion, we might have treated on the unfortu-
nate subject of impressment. Were we ever to
return to relations of amity, with Arneritia, and
he trusted lee should very soon, it joust be by
treaty.. The NOble Lord said .the Goveriunent.
were ready to receive any proposals on this subject,
but we ! could not accede to acknowledge it
•as a basis. if the' Noble Lord, meant that, by
entering into negociations, we were to acknbwledge
the right of America to convert British into Anal
subjects, then he WaF perfectly of the,same
opinion, But hc could not go so far as to think
that we ought not to
,negociate, because a matter
at issue was left to the future decision of the hos-
tile Legislature - for we ought to recollel, that
the American ixeentive was so much weaker than
the Executive .Gorernment of any other State,
that it could not do those af.'*i of itself, which any
Government we
,were acquainted irith could do.
,We must, therefore,. consent to look to Congress,'
and to legislatite interference ; since the Presi-.
dent could not ratify.eVen the slightest treaty
which was but sanctioned by two thirds of that
body. It the Noble 'Lord, therefere, 'looked to
the matter in the latter sense, he went too far—lif
in the limited sense, he conciirred with bjn in the
propriety of his decision, not to be bound even by
implication to give tip this or any such right.—
But, on the Other hand., they :mist go to a di's
. cession of it, or War wotdd be eternal. The Noble
Lord had touched on another subject which he
could not pass unnoticed—the conduct of the war,,
in which he had maintained that Ministers Were
at' least blainelt, it not praiseworthy. tor
part, he was not going to pronounce A positive
condenination.tipon theme bat from he had
seen, heard, or read upon this point, it .seemed
to him that their 'mode of conducting the War had
been more ealculated to prolong nail perpetuate it;
than to bring it speedily.'to• a conclusion:- The
Noble Lord confessed` that they had no right to
expect. peace to have been the effect of thei; long
negociations, and yet they had takerii nb measures
to be prepared fot?,var. Would the Noble Lord
from his conscience say, that he dial-not,thiok the
capture 'of the British frigates which hadlictin
taken was not calcidated to inspirit the enemy to
the continuance of hostilities ? Our Navy might,
it was true, be employed in many places, but.
would it he said that we Lad not mirsuflicient spare
force to sweep from the the three oe four
frigates, and thrc,, or four sloops, of which the
American navy at the commencement of the war.
consisteao, If this were so, theft :Unlace had sue-7
ceeded in re:lur:!ng.,oar noN'y tb,a state of decrepi-
tude, of which he had -previously had rid coneep-
' tiom Upon the whole he did not
.feel that he
could vote against the Address, and, after a few
more remarks, .he concluded by giving it his
assent.

Afr..llAargo, after a few observations on the
stipjeet of theOrtlerj in Counell,and the Liecose
Tratle which had grown out of them, but was
now abandoned, said,• he wo .aware the senti-
limits he was about to deliver were not very pa-
pilla in tbat,liousz,. yet his SCAM of duty would
not allow hint to %withhold them lie then stated.
that he did mit believe the American Declaration
of war. was at 'alLeontiected with the state- of
Russia and Vrntice, which had no influence, on
the Ameriean Government. They looked little to
Europe:to politics arid it` vvM iwpo,t,,ibie to read
the palter* produced, and. not see that the sole
cause of the war was the Orders in .),..ourfr
this assertititt, be entered Into an
argument of some length; and read various ex--
tracta front the correspondence. When war did
ensue, it •was true the declaration did not set
forth-. this pint only, bat recapitulated a great
Many other .griewanees. This, however, wa al-
Ways the CitSC Gil such ocrii.,zions, and he
heard of a Spanish declaration of war, in which
ot.te of the grounds of offence „t h atthe English
li;ecretary had received their Antbassador fit boots.
Yet no one Went so fcr as to proutionte this, to he
the pause of the war. T 4, sahject of impressment
Was now the only obstacle irt the way of peAct!, 3114
a most irtiptirtailt one it was. lie felt:strongly
.1114
the safety nettle country would he very rilueheu,..
dangered by a compromise of this. right, or,a stir--
render of the principle, unless Sonic sribtitiur,e
-cOold be devized, and bewas also aware of the eery
great di,aleolty of stith substlatte being fauna,—

nut M.r. Russell's proposal ought to hare been re-
,I&.: to:I with expressions more conciliatory, and the
iloor oi.rht not to have been shut so abruptly upon
ne,.ociation, with a phrase about maritime rights,.
soch a> there were plenty of in the Secretary of
.'!izate's (Vice, What was the state of the impress-
ment The Noble Lord said there were-about
1600 American seamen in our service, hut had not
noticed'hat there .were 16,000 of our seamen in
the service of America. At least ten to one. He
stated this to spew that it was even more for out
own interest than for the interest of America to
call for and court negociation upon the sub-
ject of an arrangement upon this point. With
' respect to the American certificates, he nar-
rated a fact which hatrbippened within 's
own knowledge, which sheaved that in this also it
was for onr benefit to entertain negociation rather
than exclude it. In a ship in whi,:b he arrived at
Pcirtsmouth from America, a person came on board

to-search for British seamen. All his CrOV
(laced certificates bat one, who was carried off in
the boat, upon which the American Captain burst
into a laugh, and said, " There, they have taken
a man MI6 was never before 'out of Pensylvania
in his life, and thinking nobody could doubt it, dia
not take the precaution of procuring a.certificate,
and have left three fellows who have not beep
six months out of a man of war, but have been
wiser in this respect.' Yiktbere being evega One
thousand six hundred AmeriArtOn our Navy, be
conceived to be no captious gvound of complaint
to, an independent State. This wAs ,mat-
ter not to be settled by a balance of nopulkion,
and loudly called for a settlernent for the quiet and
benefit of both countries. Even if•no plan, could
bc devised, discussion ought to be allowed, to
sbew that the evil. was without 'a remedy. The
difficulty was,not only as to who were, but %viva
were American Citizens, and although it might be
very flee "to say, no man could shake off his a11e,7.
glance, yet when they knew that many men were
naturalized in America, this principle must be
departed from, He conceived it would be right
to abstain from impressing on the American
• coatti„ • and that when persons were -taken else.'
xvivere,.the s!iip hr which they were should on its
,return to port make a return of their names to the
American Consul, •in order that proper inquiry
should be made. He asked, supposing America
was at war with France, and this country at
'peace, would we consent to all our citizens being
impressed who • could not produce certificates
He ngreed that no proposal had been made to
Government which they could accept ; but con-
tended, that a, more conciliatory spirit should
have becu sbetivn, which would have gone far to
induce America to put an end to the War, The
'Honourable' Gentleman then adverted to the eon-
doet of the war, which he condemned, as not
being sefficiently vigorous ; • which if it had been,
it would have produced such a state of distress in
America as would have led to -an inclination for
peace.. - The loss of our frigates was a Orr disap-.
*lament in the country, and might tend to the
prolongation of hostilities on the•part df Atue-
riel, With one hundred and forty-live thousand,.
;earners we ought to have blOckaded the American
force; for which there never was a coasttnore
favoorable than that of the United States. The
Chesapeake and' New York presented no•obsta-
a:B to uninterrupted blockade; and the Delaaetne
and Boston,avere equally assailable in this way,
except for a short spare during the winter
mouths, fie was sure no 'part of the coast of:
the France presented such facilities. Govern-
ment .were not taken by surprise, and yet they
bad, nothing on the seas to Meet half a dozen
'.American frigates. • They, might throw the blame:
upon their officers, but he was; sure ct!nsure.was
deserted soinewhcre As for. the excuse set up
of our forces. being so lunch einplord elsewhere
—these were military and not naval foreeS.; Of
the latter we should have had a sullitieneydispos-
able. In Jane the war commenced, and the Ame-
rican frigates cruized, without interrnption, till
• they assembled again altogether in Boston, when
Commodore Rodgers sailed with his'squadron in
the middle of October. There MIS also great
complaints train the. West Indies of the depreda-
tions committed by American privateers. For
these, things he censured Ministers, but concluded
by bCSUPVitig an unmixed tribute of applause on,
the 'sagacity and vigour displayed in the defence
of Canada, • ,

I\tr A..: J. FOSTER (the tate Ambassador to
the United_ StateS) declared he, had .‘tt all titres
used his most zealous endeavours to promote
peace and it good. understanding *between the
enuntries, and he deeply,regretted that the nego
ciations had ended in hostility.. There was one
point. in the Fpeech Of the Lion. Gentleman who
last addres, m ed the, which he felt called onto no-,
tice The lion. Gent. h ni said, that if the Orders
ih.Cciuncil had been repealed in time, liOstilities
would .have ht,en prevented. But, hesideS the
Orders iii , Council, there were Cemitrtly various
•grievanc:.s dwelt on in a very-Odloulr manner by
dna. cotnitry7-'-(grievances, nianyiniveliith had
been previously z-ettled), and :Other complaints
ahot:t. the,tonduet'of the British Legation,
which, he need not s-ay to this House or this
country, were altogether
nnWorthy of credit.—
They vvere the inVentions of
,that .party Whose
over,.Vhelniting inane-nee Was the source tit all the
differeuees betw(:en the commie's. He was not,
therefore, hide to lay that the revocatibn of the
Orders inl'ouncif, pr:2viottsto their conmence-
ment, would have had the effect of averting, hOsti-'
lities. It 'Wight luive:lutil Some influence with the
Government, but- he did not 0416; the Ooverw.
'bent- vtats sufficiently .maser 'of the. Cati-oresst6
,
be able to' do What they tnip,ht think Most benefi-
cial for. the country. Froiu. tliky persoriSlit ti t.
head of Pffitil'S, and from Mr. AlortrOe. in pal Lieu
litr, he 11111.16,er received the utmost civility and
attention, and he believed there exkted tto 111CliS-
position (in their party to an a=t k arrangen.ent
of till nnitters in I:ispute with Great Britain. -'
could not agree ‘-vith the assertion of th'e ff,m.
GcLztioulM), tnat there was no party in AMerica
friendly to France. The revolution had made
strong impre,,sion thvr we, and nuni.onsproselytes
'and, though the turn whieb affiiit's had to' to iit
k'ntnee had 4k:tar-lied 'the' bctter prt fromn thenr,
they were yet u sttong-party. Nor were they-the
only party, for there watt also an Anti-Anglican
Tarty, who took every opporton:ty to embitter
the teelino again .n. this c(.4ahtry, and foment ha.

/
tred and animosity against us,- The' fluum; ruCeit
trace the wo.ltings Of this inimical slizl: i':. -1 1.
very earlyperiod. • When we oii'ered to renew i;
treaty of 1.794, it wns tbiS spirit :which e.:nr1.....1
that offer to be rejectvd, and the party v.-11:1 1i;...i.1
it ,to he injurious prevailed against the othe,., al-
. though it had at its bead tittgreat Washi!.4io7:.
A, , ~ain the Treaty of• Limits, of 103, was rjeci.
ed by Mr. Jeirersoti, front the prevalence o. ti e.
same per,ons and principles ; and he vraeed this
to stew' the antipathy. so Long' and unieterruptettly.
entertained by some of the Ameritieni wgilin,t this
country.. The treaty of 160(3, concluded behyeen
Messrs. 'Pinckney and. Monroe, :ind an Adniini-
stratiini in this country, supposed to be voy t.:-!.
vourable to there, was not ratified, from, the sante
iPtuse. But the strongest proof that the American
Government, i 4 n,
.itenced by this spirit, were e..t:r
desirous of kc • itg grievances elive, was to be'
found in 'tkei matter of the' Chesapeake in l'iii.
The moment ii4itt urfociutirge affair 'us kilo-A, lo
:this country, reparation Was offered to be ;Jade,
brat all that :cold be done was unavailing ; the
President rejected 6:try ,sttonetnent,..,a, ,viti.),TA
inquiry or consideration, issued n :Proclamation,
to exclnde British shipping. front the ports of the
American States, and continued to act upon it-,5
refusing all offers to repair the injury done. With
respect' to 'the. Orders in Council, and the doc-
trine of blockade, he might notice, that .a".. one
time when there was a probability of the former
It.e.iny. rescinded, as appeared front the. letter- DC
. At Aids
,Wellesley., solar was America from ineet •
lag It with a corresponding feeling, her Govern-
Iment only seemed.anxions to keep aliv.e. :another
'excuse for'the NoIF-importation Act, aid for this
purpow they drew froM the dust,: where it had
lain for three years, the IlloAacleliflBo6, which
hadsnever before been complained Of, and which,
at the moment it passed, was .not conliidered its
injurious to the interests of the United State 3 by.
their Ministers in this country. Mr. Ph-sandy was
the first to produce this notable 'expeviient:, lie
wrote to know if that blockade still existed, ana
was answered by Lord Wellesley, that it . was,
comprised in the order of ISO?. Not 'Satisfied with
this, he again wrote for a more explicit declara—
tion, and receiveda more particular reply in 1816, -
Front this, the bloekade was brought out as a
stumbling block; and the American Government
well knew that-we could not sacrifice the principle
on which it was founded, without subverting our
dearest rights ; and yet they instructed Mr. Pinck-
ne.y to deound not only the rcpcal of the Orders
in. Council, but the relinquishment of the Block-
-tides of 1506 and. 7; as indespensable fa -pacific •
agreem'..int. Even tip to thepresent period, they
found America.always anxious to keep up some-
thing of ill-will and ferment; and why she went
to war in 1812 rattier' than in 1809, it was .
impossible to say! Indeed, they had declared..
then (1809) . that they considered themselves en-
titled to go to war without. notice: and bad
-since- so incessantly kept up the 'cry of " the
wolf," ,that no one would believe till the „War
really took place. This strange dispositon he acs-,
signed to party politics an:hparfy spirit, which pre-
vailed nrore with America than her foreign relations.
Whether the diliere•:lee as to impressment conll
be 'settled, -he was not aware, but this he could'.
state---after' are war: bad been declared a few days, .
he had a conveyation with the Americau ;Mini7,
sters; in which that sub:fat was not, merrioired as
a paramount consideration, but in the tagged wy.7"
as krtninor grievance,' w.iiiielbe Orders in Cocitr.ia
were held, forth as the only good and ostensible -
obstacles to pence. Little did be think, that af.,„
. ter their repeal, America, .w:111 80 nowy irstfac,
meats to be at pepc!!, wvtdd continue at 'way.•
The Government well herric'd iato hostditiO by
a party they could not guide, lin" war. Ms-car-
ried in Congress bythat rancorous faction ::ie,.iliiv,r.
the English,. 'Who ptrsuaded others to join diem
on the occasion, for fear a difference might
break up the 'Democratic part; and in the Se-
nate the War Measure waS,carried by the- oppn.
uents of Government, who were desirous of Mak.
ing theta unpopular. • , - "

Mr'. WiturnittiAD said, that it wits a matter of
much cousolatron to hint to have heard from the
Honourable Gentleman (iNfrAzoster)'that neither.
Mr. ACnnoe nor Mr. Madison, f..e.e.ined to
hint to be actuated solely by a spirit of boo;
tility towards this country. ' From this. :tlie-I.e
Was some • reason to hope, that a conciliathry
disposition on the pant of the Ministers of this;
country, might lead to an adjustment of the exist-L
ing differences Withint'any further lois, of
It was not his intention to vote against the Ad-
dress, because' whatever might have been the fault
in the commencement (A' Conduct of the war, he
thought, that Circumstanced as they now were,
every Briton should cdntributc to the vigorous pro-
secution of it. He could not, however, but give
some attention to the circuit stanees under which
America countieticed the pre,ent war. Here the
iionOurahle Gentleman went over • the events
of htst year, and contended, that the revocation
of the Orders in Council took place at too
late a period to produce the, desit'etl
d,id not intend by any to 'defend'
the conduct or the American GOV ernnient
upon "the tiqestion of impress-went but when the.
itisitltipg and injorions nr,,),1111e1 itt Wl*ll the right.
of Search t; as rkerolied m by some 'of our Oftieers'
tats conshlerea, was it to he wondered at if Arne-
.
ram refmed to tretit, eNeept Upoll the' ei'nuli;
of h.tyir4 upon th:.s sobj,;ct.
fie reprobated the dist,r:;,-f,,, 01 practices 111 AI -
rft-a, of obtaining' certti.,,c:i of cititethip
it wtt-iuof t4roved by th,i ''.761.)1, Lord, th,,,t.
were
,the acts ot the or.th4t tho s
been privy to such t“24,..ty.lab,us ,
:lUr. CANNING yose, Lie obs, CVO that the NoT)le
(Cniitiert!i.trgh). bad, in the speech -,vith which.
ilre6iced his :motion, very properly st,tted that
the. only iinestion for this Notts ao.v to consider
N6'32 xvliethttr, ttpOIS !3 vieVi'of the (41.0-:4tion,
wo,,td give their voice .t riti.:ittstice of
the ei:ins-a in Which ti!';, country embarked; 'And
placing: out of their view poirtts of Whim' c;,11
53idertttion, say, we think citatory in the Ctirr,ht,.
aft(' are, determined. to sqport 11, i iii a.ss.,:rting tb:A.
right, lu takibg stick a iPica of :the stt-niect,. he
wai'ghtil try tin& irfrnielf relieved frOtti. in ,de-
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with America were now rednced to a single point;
J-Ie agreed. with him that if the differences with
that country could be brought into discussion with
One who could represent that Government divested
of the passions that 'seemed at present to influence
it, then indeed there might be.some.probability of
success even on the subject of impressment ; but.
combined as the contention' was with national
feeling and national passiotis, it did ootappear to
him to btr one of such very easy settlement. IVith
respect to inipressment, he Would not allow it to •
he a point in which equal ebncession,
,could' be
mock. It did not appear to him thole. there was
:my' thing on the face of the papers before the:
Ilouse, from which it appeared that this couo'L ,
try had shut the door against. negociation.—'
Tn. the two first proposals for negociatioo, it
had been refused as to thit mode of commenee.%
ment, because in that mode there Was demand-
rd by America, in a covert way, the conces,
sion of an important point: Wm. that 'a.: fair
Mode, -of proceeding ? Whether this point wi4
defensible or not, at least it was it long esta.:
bli,shed usage ; it wasqme of which, .according:,
to the established law of nations, Great Britian
%ram long in possession. It was proposed to dis-
c s the point, but the proposal implied an abate-
,..ent of the right during the period of discussibn,
Nothing so pri'posteruus could' have been expect-
ed by America, as that this country would trust to
her enactments for the regulation of a right so
important. If it had been oiwe yielded op, eVeit
fur a moment, the renewal of it would leaCC
only to additional exasperation, If it Were once
parted with, how. was it to be recovwed ex,
cept by a war of perhaps tenfold aspeyity ? The
other points alluded to, in the course of the de.
bate, referred to the ,blockades instituted by
this. country. On this subject, an appeal was
made to big recollection, whether the blockade of
1806 was not made a matter of remonstrance ;
and whether it was not the origin of some irrita-
tion,in America ?' 'll his memory did not deceive
Lim, that blockade was indeed made a matter of
inquiry by the American ,Minister then in this
country, but when explained to him, be expressed
himself satisfied ; the blockade of 1806, hoWever,
merged in that of 1807; and when in January
of the latter year . it assumed the appearance of a
retaliatory measure, then it became a matter of
remonstance_on the part of the American Go-

.1,/erinnent. It continues so still, . and was the
foundation of the Decrees of November, which
seemed to be the ground of the present.
quarrel,: . The measure of 1806, permitted in-
gress: and egress,., with respect to neutral
ports. After that come the Milan decree, from
which the decree of 1807 took its rise, which was
founded on the Snirie principle as the decrees of
November With respect to that part of the No-
ble Lord's (Castlereagh) speech, alluding to the
time at which 'America thought proper to com-
mence hostilities, he did not by any means consi-
-tier it out of reason. Every person who looked to
the state of li.turope at that tirne-who looked to
the forttures which his country had at stake—who
looked to the useful, if not the splendid, part
which Amerien might have taken in that contest—
who looked at roe. infant child of Britain becoming
the ally of trance 404 the
.of
Of Spain,
lending her 41(1' in ,toupport of the most desolating
tyranny that ever oppreased the world ; look-
ing at all this, it was. impossible not to
feel iodignant that she hail lost an opportunity,
which tic combination of circumstances could per-
Imps ever Nolo restore.' 4e would not go so far
as to wish that America hail declared war against
France. He never thought it to be her proper
policy. He merely wished her to remain in a
state of neutrality. He would not have asked her
to risk a tender and infirm resistance. He would
not 'have demanded of her to run these risks ; but
judging impartially,and.eonaidering which risk was
preferable, to which country abeshould lend her aid,
to France or great Britain, he would not hesitate a
mometA a3s tothe choice,buthe would not truSt to her
the alternative. lie feared that neither the visibu,
which one contemplated with delight in the ancient
reptiltlicsovere yet realized in America, nor the more
rehned Commercial improvements of modern .re
- publics. lie was shawl that seine hope of taking
this country unprepared for defence in her Settle-
ments had entered into the estimation of the Ante-.
rican Government. Be regretted that. with a navy
cif only boo- frigates,alteshottld have take o two from
'• this country. It Was no excuse to say that the scene
of action .for the British fleet WaS extensive beyond
• any former esample, lie feared the Admiralty held
the, pen in 'their hand, when they should have
Linnet-led their thunder. Admiral . Warren sailed
with the fleet miller hiS command about the mid-
dle of, Auost, and arrived in Halifax on the 27th
of September. There be remained tzar a.cOnsider-
able time. Ott the lOth,of October, Commodore.
„Rodgers sailed from llaiston. Why, be would
was not Afiiitital Warren before Boston, either,to
intercept the American squadron, or to keep it
cooped op in that harbour, and preventtbe enemy
from putting to sea ? It was not until several
mouth bad elapsed, that Go,. (aliment took, any
notice of the Amorietin lketnr;ii ion of War—not.
mita the 14th of Oetather hist, ol;lintigh the' Ame-
rican Declaratipn roichett the cohotry 'abnut. the
end of July. Why 14.70.1 s tlit nut souse notice
of 'it sooner ? Or +s lay NV,Vi it noticed
then It was; because' On the 10th of October,
eenment received intelligence of the loss of the
Gherriere; art event which made, an impression
On the miods Of the people of Great Britain; more.
forcible than inn y whieh could have been produced
by the thOst awful cotivtil3ion of nature, .fie slier
not blame, the acts of the Government, but he
complained of their being dilatory. The
ct (lonian ball been captured by that very sqint-
droll tF,I
,iiCh had esclied from J.loston,
,because
Sir .foltrt Borlase'WZrreu mts ►in the harbour of
iotertd of being oJa.a.e he slymid haVeY
Ofil-3w4tOn. lie did no itnimte any itlitine
to the conrhict, of the officer ind-men of th tin
101 itillatl had been -Capttued, . On
el.mf i. 7 ;:' that they had done tivir.
• ,• offieleot fo-,cfa he was
f,laairtly ,the- 1;:id _ngt
the
tifk
an

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