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London, England, 1813-06-19 00:00:00

G.ILWAY TOWN ELECTION.

icE6K broaght up the Report of the
Committee, appointed to inquire into the merits
of ti.e Galway Town Election.
It stated, that The Hon. Frederick Ponsonby
was not duly elected ; that H. Blake, Esq. had
been duly elected for the town and county of Gal-
way ; but that the Petition of Mr. Ponsonby Was
not frivolous nor vax'ationi.
Mr. Itosn moved the Order of the. Day for a
Connnittee on the Victuallers Relief Bill, - -
Mr. DAvrEs Grunt spoke against the Bill, and
Mr. Rosa defended the Bill.
After a few words' from Mr. CROKER and Mr.
Wuritat.tn, the House divided—.
For the Committee
For the Amendment_
Mnjority
The Bill.then went through aConunittee, the
Report to be received on. Friday.
The Spirit Duty Bill, the Funded Debt Bill,
Local Token Bill, and Potash Bill were read a
second time, and ordered to be committed on
Monday.

TREATY WITH SWEDEN.
Mr. WlnTattEAn said, that as he observed in
the second Article of the 'Pretty with Sweden,
that the 'Vreaty.between Russia' and Sweden was
concluded in March, 1812, he wished. to ask the
Noble Lord opposite, when a communication was
made to the Government of this country respect-
that Treaty
Lord CAsmr,RP,Aon replied, that the communi-
cation was made in July, .1812.
Mr. PoiNtsONnY rose. The most Convenient way
for proceeding upon the .subject of the
.Treaty,
would be, be believed, by delivering his semi-
Mews before the Speaker left the Chair, because
In the Comniittee of Supply 014 could do notbing
more than come to a vote upon the stipulations
Of the Treaty. They could not in the Committee
come to any resolutioa of presuming art AddreSs
upon it. It Was his :wish that, such an Address
should be.presented to his Royal IlighnesS,
lug, that so . far as it was consistent wit!. 1.!;.e
good faith and honour of the Crown, he would.
suspend .the stipulations that had been entered
into with Sweden, until nitch time as be would en-
ter into engagements to withdraw himself from
them. This, be believed, was the first instance
of a Trea:y containing the cession of a valuable
pbssession, being laid upon the Tm,ble without the
the Minister being desired to take the sense of
the House upon it. This Treaty was not Merely
a Treaty of concert or siibsidy, but it a Treaty
of 'cession—of the cession of. Guadaloupe, one of
the most valuable. of the WeStindia Islunds. He
did think, when .such was• the case, when a
surrender of such importance was to be. made,
that illinisters ought, at least, to have moved an
Address upon it. In the other House Ministers
,
could not pursue that course, but it was not the
case there ; and as they forbore to 'pursue that
course, be felt himself obliged to adopt rather an
unusual mode of proceeding for taking the StOISC
Of.the House upon the merits of the 'stipulations.
The first and nmost remarl,othie thing-to which be
would call their attention, was the Ti eaty between
Sweden and Russia, on the 311 of ?tlarch,
The object of that, Trenty, as ,professed by those
power, was the reciprocal security of their
respective States and possessions against time
cotimmon enemy, meaning France ; for France was
at. the time of the Treaty, the only enemy from
which they could expect any danger. 111 the
course of the last war, which. was terminated
by the 'Treaty of Tilsit,' negoeiations were ear-
tied on between these Governments. Russia af-
terwards attacked Sweden; and obtained posses-
sion of Finland, the dominion of .which being an
acquisition of much importance to her, she had
long desired: that domieionaussia obtained by the
connivance of... France herself. Russia t,fterwartit
perceiving that a war with France was likely to,
take place, sought by other means to preserve her
dominion over the province which she had ob-
cludetainedd.,
tanhatd -
the consequence wai, that she con
Convention whiCh
the p. r a was contained in
men upon the table. By that Conven-
tion Norway was to be secured to Sweden, either
by treaty or by force ; .and Rusqa, if force be-
came necessary to give Sweden the possession of
it, undertook to Supply her with from 15,000 to
35,000 men, for the purpose of 'effecting, if ne-

ceaest!t, ary, the subjuzation ofStorts.ol. Lol,lC'th
the British Minister; at the Control ::•''t• l''-tersburgh, was . present When this fre;ay a•j!
agreed to, and must thcreltae have been coa3ei.
oily of the step proposed to be taken, for the Pur
pose of procuring the junction of Norway to Sat,
den. Russia undertook not to procure for So'
deo an exemption froth the attacks of Norwu_rri
Denmark,. bet to proettre for her the PerP'l3g,
cession of Norwav itself. The Treaty %s` ll
say, that troth parties would; so far as it u'ni't
their potver, avoid 'making an enemy of tae 11
of Denmark, with whom liejther Intl men '
quarrel, and that they would ;roeare on in:lcoe,
ty by .territories more convenient to the tico.:l
possessiotts of Itia•Danish Majesty. licie v'',t
the deliverers of Europe, the men wl") ,iced
to, tree - the- world from the oppresiive cent'''
a Vrance, agreeing by Treaty to nlke ''.,)
from an utrotlentling rower a p7.irt of l'c. (14:,''',;
Ikons, and promising compt nsation by the 1;;;:e
of possessions made •contiaalotts to thet (ri, 1
dottlinions of that tinollending l'ower. It `.l,_
in this manner that Germany was 4? beit':',
liVered tip. It was thus that the Emperor of L.'','
silt, who signed hirus-elf iti his l'roclainat,o ,
Alexander, the deliverer of Germany, it .035,!'r;
he_was preparing to dispose of the Germos v,'',4 ,
became to deliver. The policy of this stcl)".,
equal to the justice of it ; and how "L'Y Cjb%.174
in this country, how any M.inis:er of a !Linn, ',I
had, from the opening of his reign, bee'l lafrora
for justice, and for every virtue. that, could 'd'i:or
royalty, who had been for many vcars strltisg`' :to
in war, commenced with na Other view t'lidv
prevent such a spoliation as this treaty saurl,::,.,
el ; how the 'Ministers of such a; ing 0)111'11 :ii
the hardihood to propose that the couutrs'sh'll.o
become a party to such an agreerneut, ‘va r°,oa
a matter of surprize_ and regret. if I.llleti ), of
Lord opposite (Castlereagh), was all"''''')." the
establishing the authority sof France, this ',",5a.....
most effectual wens he coahl, pci3s.iiq `l`;°';viti
aFnr;tnreegealt.vdatso atchetei rights
d, and justly aeet°cr's iaerd
treading down the rights' of nations, h"l' w,`ls,,„ar 1
They indeed were age:l:cites ofto islaayticlitiiistli:ei trrilirse'\''',;l)Li.f„i!,cliYi
had entered into, that the traosier of il- t
a.. 0 to the
s!totilti be made with all possible ree;"?,1! ..... 4
i
liberties of the people of 'that countrY., ozaties
ntocksry,' it was an insult to flak of tile law ~ta
of a people under sorb eircteastauces. .11 aa
pulations of the Traaty were conceived i It
::
same spirit, and would be executed hY t" t .„1.,
nteatis as the partition of Poland. l):, 148 14 ~i
titian, which opened the rune! to e'lm's'sigtft...:;4
injustice, the established , and halanciug
.._ot
Ett rope were subverted. l'he liiw of the 41° ;00 ,
was substituted ,in their rootn. Tii, Trentt(,
tlit
under their consideration' spoke t'ohohes . 0 ~f
Poles ; and When it was read by the Allots t. 4
li the i'lni)ic
any Power in Europe, 'how e('l ' r; :10
Lord (Castlereagh), talk ,to hitO of theit,4o,o
of nations ? IViott no‘e, he veciuld 1 s tip,
the object a this Treaty of occeSsiOn int.Olivitice
'fix Prl'P'''re,`,lonce 01
this couotry had' entere,d.
ttihfeitttitis
independence a elt:s of
fticert tilt the rillilh:.- 'collo
its'tfcei rer°l:l et
4n:ip'
nionl from one of' die Northern 1 0,..,ei,
woald lit' faiiir.
what, if Val' before existed, .
cool', .
po ‘ The Treat,/ ;
ttlopie):ceeLisbolithhaef(llbieyi:ii.,,fileillepsetNet;rtr:.eri tillitgt)!Ca,ti)r:ad.l.l.l;.e,l,:tiii:(tol:it(ihi,o:ttinri
prudtice no- benefit to Great .13rit,t,"!;44441a, waa
in its for t f union with. JAI. reqs of
titer stu e 0
to )r isitr -
as advantageously situated tor . poaaal,
this country as she could possibly he. „a 'lle
lensati •
ti.1:11:ledesotl.1111iS Was . f,Nlitori::::'
hgwever, %%as, it seems, to be cowl t., t, the tiq,'?,
tootle a MutiOn Some few clays bat Ji tbis sal)"
elation* that had been:,carried on or'
couldiect intohi I %)veint l'ills.aai'tk"ei y toil e
thelTa sp
tii b"ll.(ji cr le' crt'ilitcel;3lt):it4l:ll.)ra•
closed, From whence could the d3n,rl,:t;g-r.:l th3t
I'l.'ll7i:titer; tvrae:‘titlitt?cti taltli ri
iatsed it
i ttl7l. I. bi
ecs'es::crg'.:esi'lli'e)'l.l:::
from the relation in which Fiance
i.
Denmark, it could not be suPPnse("l 1 e I'6*
p,_:lrt
%%tt)l‘l,l,lt)%luft:iic*ia'acsii:trit);sitilli'lsse.tllislininirsliootwlsttooltitillnlt'°ltolscliseltritftl,':,isNitiiN.t‘ici°tti.:llo}ltiifi;:s'rci:le.igi.litltliecitlrsti.ll(..ktiisii%:).s.eeti:l4.or(itlicl.is,elyit°:).lesii:•%:',.):;c3l(s.l,:,ti,ll:c'. ' I
lie— In the second, r ee of
inu.ptLinsla tol .
to
_ita,e.pll
she
that all Optip!l was ~;‘,.,„ to -Denmark wit 't,...4, ~
ay wust go E 0 .atvet ~. , r --." •
Delllllol* was leasedn', . to it " P"' le
From , ,„, elt). agtta. :;It- .;
a Pa.agrapit iii the Treaty a person.-.tix,l
led to
alt. susl)ect, that if 1.)11 alien It joined tlicN`)l,.4
lance she may retain Nora-ay, but thert. ":`,,',' of
such„ thing. Even: in the erelit ttiat the I%';'?-:,,ty
between
joined in that allia(le, still, LLlCiii:l23 to
'
Rtissia and 'Sweden would cOlnPe`, "Ihrbil
part with the subjects who had been lona t0a.1,-': it,
tint. Ile
and were oven Persotially att3'.';',,lo.
hitn. Ile would defy the Noble Lord (.‘'' 1,44 .
reJigh) to contradict this statualent. N°tlii,l;tli,;i,i
than t_lie cession of Notway cool(' satislY i;.,. or
.and Sweden, and the only alternative fe'`,......
the Danes was to opposa force •Ir;,- l'irc;:ta
Ile knew not. what could unlace this et'"°l.:,Jc.-,
aagpraeretytotoSu
it;
a treaty of partitioii. No c°l-ia"
ration of profit should have coducedher to hee`v,
but even if profit could he I'lltaar -
cuse, what profit was to arise from it ? Ikt ; it
once, anti co-operation of Swede!). Bet tilcill,
must also give ocatision to the hostility d
~1,,,;,
mark. One power was nearly eqa.d to the (); ore
so abet, there would be nothitta- vsined fr"Tl a.e
friendship of one that would not - be 10't LP" `..1
1,. d"
enmity of another. It wodld, perliaPs, '; ~,ta
that being at war with ,Dertmark, it wa,' .11i'irtie
adopt against her every .mode of annoyance- .*cri
only legitimate •enti of a"r
r ifti N'o6s, by ail xrit,
• 1)
uprat the subject, • .allo.ivedW to be peace, a
o ve s
vernment at the presant day would, he he"e4ll„,r
admit that it wuged war for the purpose Jo:
extinction. Every Government when connu,lloo,..
It war, at least pretended• present causes oi. C fax
plaint, or apprehensions .of - future danger
; stiCKl
which it-roust provide. In d o
steaf almtl:11 7' d
i trie
Treaty as this, tiwise staterhan would "3" „pa
to unite all- the PoiVers of the North in 9.10il
.11;t.,
interest. The only justification of the Trea )1 'l.'rieti
war with Deanaar.k, but as that war VV.I" X7°l C4'.

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on for her extermination, it was no excuse for such
a Treaty. To.ohtain the co-operation of Sweden,
Russia promised 35,0 W) men for the purpose of
subduing Norway, and that before Sweden took
any direct step iii Germany against France. Such
Was the nature of the Treaty. Russia was to sup-,
Ply 34,000 flien before Sweden made any move-
. Pleat against the common enemy. If such were
the ease, it wat,in fact, buyin- a divers:on in fa-
: aynr of France. The Ministers of this country•
wished to change the plan of, proceeding agreed
in the Treaty between Russia and Sweden. They
affeca.:d this by giving to Sweden 1,000,000/. and
the island of Guadaloupe. On these .conditioni
she was to co-operate with the Allies against France,
before she took any measures for the subjugation
of :Norway. Here was a specimen of the disin -
Lteresteilliess of Sweden. The Ministers of Eng-
ad purehasett her co-operation, and what ad-
. ,Vantai..;•e was derived
from it ? The only advantage
Was, that t he Swedish troops arrived it time enough
bto witness the defeat of the Allies, aim to remain
atnovable spectators of the armistice that was eon-
einded. The saaacity of this part of the Treaty was
taped to the probity of the other; but it seemed this
country obtailied irons Sweden the right of entre-
pot in some parts of the Swedish dominions. `Phis
tight was to continue however only for twenty
&I's, and Sweden obtained Guadaloupe for ever.
le would call upoti the House now to .consider
What was given and what was received. It was
jan opinion held by all authorities upon the sub-
ect, that in war, whatever posszssions were taken
by the contending powers, could not be filially
transferred to any other power until all differ-
ences were settled by a peace. The Ministers. of
this country, however, in defiance of this usage,
undertook to cede the island of Guadeloupe as
far
as they could cede it. (Near, hear! from the
-alinisteria/ Beaches). With respect to the right of
eatrepot
, of what value was it ? Suppose a peace
were to he concluded,
there won't' then be no
occasion for it, because British goods could
fiat
V_heir way to the Continental Market without any
eil right If the war were to
Continue, and
:anee
t.' were successful, she could then enforce
-0 e
0 ntm •
ental system, and rentlar this right of „eattePot altogether useless, so that- ne:thei• in
vace or war eould' it be said to be of any great
~" In peace it was useless—in war it was
rProfitable. It may perhaps be said, that it was
4."..h_.050:11 with either houses of Parliament to inter-
fete with Treaties after they had been once enter-
d into'
I,
i - by the Crown. Unusual it certainly was,
nr t was not unpreeedented. And even if it tete unprecedented, it should be had recourse to
Mrs .because the Treaty itself was unprece-
totented. It was not his intention to refuse
• , leeatio su
tobsidy of 1,000,000/. but it was his in-
.o propose an Address to the Regent,
With a view to suspend-the execution of the Treaty,
and to free himself. from the stipulations of it.
At the same time that he would vote this money
to the Crown, to enable it to fulfil the Treaty, he
*amid advise that the atrocious stipulations of it
slitlnta be got rid of, if it could be done consist-
ently with good faith, that lie might enter into
fresh negotiations with Sweden and Russia. n the 7th article of the Treaty, Sweden and Engy
-
and agreed, not to separate their interests ; and
le perpetital union of Norway .with eden waa
:anteed S
. An engagement of snch ha ,nature as
was never before made by 'any power during
• The improvidence ofth
thus guaranteeing the
i ,etual union, of Norwaywith
Sweden was
Aiv'lei.befor t
lc, (.. equalled in any Treaty of which he
4.11 ever heard. The Nrible Lord (Castlereagh)
. t.e.ti.aed hy I ; a.s manner to dissent from what was
!11 tf so, he wished the Treat •'. 'd
y was COIICCI t
in
.clearer terthat it '
Ti,, w, , - los.
go, . )"°4 of the Treaty clearly implied the-con-
. uction lie oat if would now ask,
did Prar upon them. e
, nee derive 110 advantage from this Treaty )
Wouli •
lit give her no I fjustification for her
grotin«,
trgitressiou s r k,., . -s ,a)aave it to say, 7 1 ...GO not act worse than
aglsod? • ' • h r I Kin ,s
aNd„ , She sanctions treaties ..), wHe i . t,
1 , ,prived of their dominions-she favours stipti-
iatin,i, h ,
Y wholi nations are robbed of their rights.
After 4 1
:I),,,lit'"C" a Treaty, how could the character of
co nd stand higher in the eyes of Europe thin the
ll'aete cr,
't.(4.1 ' 1
r 0 trance ? Its character must appear
w(nle f ' this
aria 1,1 0. ol very reason, because in France,
otilitar, 'ePY country governed'as France was, by a
Wliatevi despotism, the people must submit to
h . er its
at hi a , Governmentu is pleased to dictate;
the n,,tlin'ee Government, it was in the power of
a reo. n) to redeem its character, by compelling,
.iietihi .
tlie 1.,1„. lof unjust acts. If the House, upon
tint; ()fent occasion refused to deliver their opi-.
tl . • °la Treat ' 1 R .t he must say,
wt la his ,y to tle egen ,• th, cot, mold it would render the character of ho,„‘d I.lltry worse than that of nations that were
to sub • • •
I,,v;''s,.tligt • „ mhston. One advantage of freedom
the sio„ '" taught such as enjoyed it to respect
i" forse),-.3 (),f others. But this Treaty was founded
Vieth; "110 fraud ; lie would 'therefore beseech
liefor, 7: t° Paase before they sanctioned it.—
°at ei,,,,,m te"d the Address, he must allude to
Nin is t a 0
ee• . They were told that all Ger-
„ . wits nr,„ t Y.
Nara , ' Ore(' to rise if they received any
ea, ;
that g then t.......a hat Hanover and Hesse would
tturr„„.., ja a word, there would be a holy in-
tscalo',oll throoghont Germany. And what pro-
oat .Coalal what temptation to this Was now held
WRs to t lein ? The protection held out to them
Dtiliatioranster them to another dominion in com-
*44 to p for robbery. \That part of Germany
4itah to tHish this compensation it would be en-
tttaist, tilt ? It was not to be supposed to be
ill ed fro ' h
a , 11l t e hereditary dominions of the,
If) f' tie could not belief that ilarohurlh was
t, (anis,. .
.0 .
"re II " Part of this compensation. t was
, te t
t, he I lean of the German confederacy was
Illilii °lgetl, and he could not believe that its in-
b `gilts %.
eitsts. , %ere to he thus transferred like so many
tit ,if so there:
Ou, sinit , , was a baseness and wicked.
da h tnat it was not possible to describe. He
te thou °in' '.ead the Address. It was long, ,bait
It'ktg,tg" it the duty of the House to make their
,riit , 2tation of t
Lie circumstances at some
.th
ti, he at,
p,, !ht !lon. Gentleman then read the Ad-
t'" it wag -11 h M W WYNNE.
fish 4rd c , aceonc et yl.r. W.
„„ „, -arrLaat„,on said, the course which the
taiZt%onourble Gentleman had felt it his duty
itif hrin„ia this occasion, with respect' to the Mode
17'144,71 ng forward the subject under the cunsi.
'allia t'r the House 'was one unasual in Par-
-4t4 tito 1 • *
Ug 1 It was one which adequate cir-

cumstantei Might kislity ; but it was sotnethint
more than unusual to .pronounce art unfounded
-judgment, not only on the Ministers of the
Crown, but on the Allies of the country,. before
'an opportunity had t-Ten given to the former to
submit to the House that explauation which they
were ready to- offer. He thought it required the
peculiar_ view of the subject taken by the Right
Honourable Gentivinau to justify the adoption
Of such 11 course, "before the Ministers had called
for the supply required The Right Hon. Gentle..
man said be was not disposed to stand between
the Crown and the execution of the Treaty, as
far as related co money, but he was prepared at
once to degrade the Miiiisters by whom it -had
been conclud&d, and to degrade the Potvers who
were parties to it. lie would put it to the Right.
Honourable Gentleman if this was pursuing a
course very amicable towards the Emperor of Rus-
sia and the King of, Sweden ? The unusual course
he (Mr. P.) took placed him (Lord C.) in at situa-
tion which, without the indulgence of the House,
would be most painful, as it imposed on him the
painful task of attempting drat explanation of the
circumstances connected with the Treaty, the de-
tail of which he had only exp.:cted to be called
upon to give, in the Committee, as explauatiOn
might be required. He was- certainly extremely
astonished at the language held by the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman, when speaking of the treaty-
as when be
:had rstealled the attention of the
House to thiS subject, he had made. useof no such
words as." atrocious stipulations," when speak-
. ing of that part of it which related to Norway ;
and he had understood hint to he'of opinion, that
that there was nothing immoral in the conduct of
this country, seeing we were at war with Den-
mark, in turning her arms against any part of that
kingdom, not merely for our own advantage, but
also fur the advantage of those who might be.
united with us in alliance. He had believed it
Was the intention of the. Right Houourable Gen-
tleman to bring it forward only fi► . the purpose crl
arraigning its policy. Saying this, howerer, he
by no menus. meant to give up the political morality
of the Treaty, that lie was fully prepared to de-
fend ; butt he had understood the Right Honour-
able Gentleman to say, the engagements entered
into with respect to Norway were imt to be.ques-
tioned on that ground, hut on the policy by which
it had been dictated. He declined entering into '
the late negociations. with Denmark. These, if
the issue had been to unite Denmark with the
Allies, would not have justified the Treaty, if it
were not justified by the time, or antecedent to
the time at which it was concliided. That which
had subsequently occurred could not affect it,,as,
if it were not justified by the circumstances of the
3d 'of Mar.ch, it could not be successfully defended
at all. On this grOond, he (Lord C.) had refused
the papers called for. by the Bight Honourable
Gentleman, and nu this ground he should hart;
opposed the production of 'papers relative to 'the
negociationswith Sweden ; feeling as he did, that
nothing was so injurious to this country in the
eyes of foreign nations, as the premature produc-
tion of such documents ; 'and, in his opiuion,
to grant such merely to vindicate individuals,
was a line of conduct most unworthy and unjusti-
fiable. If, hotvever, the /tight lion. Gentle-
man had called for papers relating to weden,
though he should have opposed their prodoetion,
be should have understood why they were asked.
They might in sonic measure bear on the subject.
Those called for respecting Denmark could not.
He could not but feel that he owed some expta-
nation to the House, on the subject of a Treaty
being concluded witleany foreign power, and
siderable advances made on that Treaty, Parlia-
ment being sitting, without making any comma..
nication to,them respecting it. He apologised for
this, and hoped the House would be satisfied
when he had, stated the cause of it. The ratifica-
tions of the Treaty, throught certain -fatalities
which attended our communication with the North,
were not received till the 10th of May. He should
have felt it his duty immediately to advise the
Prince Regent to communicate it to Parliament,
had he not thought nothing could have been mons
unsatisfactory to them, or injurious to the itego-
ciations then going on, than to have this Treaty
discussed at that time. 'These negotiations with
Denmark continued pending for some time, and
he did not know the final result of them till the
evening of the day on which the House broke
up for the Whitson Holidays ; and he believed
he had presented it to the House on the first day
but one after the recess. If the stipulation for
bringing Sweden on the Continent was worth any
,thing, he thought it would be' admitted that its
armies ought not to have been suffered to reniainin
active for want of means. Assistance from this
country was indispensable to prevent this ; and
one month's proportion of the subsidy, 200,0001.,
had therefore been advanced. The delay which,
had taken place in conveying the Swedish troops
to the Continent, was in no part attyibutable to
the Swedish Government. The troops had been
got ready before they had a right to expect they
could be got ready, and they had crossed over to.
Stralsund sooner than it had been calculated they
could reach that plaice. The delay had been oc-
casioned by their waiting for English transports,
and for this delay the Transport Board were far
from. feeling themselves answerable ; that the
transports had actually sailed from Gottenhorgh
three weeks sooner than they would take upon
themselves to answer for their_ sailing ; but the
[ wind had been so unfavourable, that it had taken
`them five weeks to get round from Gottenburgh
to Carlscrona, where the Swedish troops wete...
In examining the present Treatyi,he did not know
that he was bound, under all circumstances, by
engagements entered into between Russia and
Sweden; and-ezri.ettlym(lgtithinedxeneoltA
say such iwitebree
made to their pr
to be made in the present instance, that he should
‘iicl ti
come to presently), yet if su._h exceptions were
'to he taken, still at the periodl r atco vn(liiie
land had acceded to the Treaty, her
be perfectly justifiable and wise. lie, however,
did not condemn the, part Which the Allies bad
taken : be would contend that their canduct was
justified.by the necessity of the CaSO, and no part
of the speech the Right Boomirable Gentle-
man had given bun so mitch pain, and appeared
to him more tintriSe-,,,,fr0m one, who wished to see
this country get svell.through. her didiculties (as
he presumed the Right Houourable Gentleman

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th •
an that where do Litt run direct at the
Allies, and Condenined then: conduct, without
waiting for that explatia'tion ‘vhich' 'could be af-
forded. The Right Hun. Gentleman had
,partiett
ly commented on the eng'age.nents7.,hc<wecn
Russia and Sweden having !tech entered into in
IVareh, 1612, anti acceded to by tiagland inMai-ch
1:13. If the House trhuid.permit hint, he N'..Ottid
it hat. had hceu ihr.!.4tate
recall to their recollect ion
of things at the period Whet: al3:1 Sweden
entered into the Treaty alltidetl to, It Wits con
eluded just on the eve of
.the appron:ll or the.
French antics to Russia. Buhaapinte, it was
trite, had not left Paris, but it was pot concluded
before his perfidy (perfidy' unparalleled in the
_history of the ITOI hi) wo litallifcSt to all. It was
tiO secret for what the great armies he bad col-
lected in, the neighhourhood were assembled, and
his great grievance—his chief cause of complaint
ivrainst Sweden quid Russia was, that I)6l'r at
s
war with this country, they did not push . their
hostility to the greatest possible extent, in order
to effect the ruin of this country. This was the
ostensible cause of the %ear, but he (Lord Castle -.
reh,443 believed that Buon;tparte's tarnished re-
putation in Spain had in no small degree urged
hint on to seek compensatioh in the North, for
the defeats his armies had sustained in the Pehin-
sula.. boa ever, demanded
.of Russia tun!
SWeden, that they should ahsthita. from all inter-
coarse with Englittiki, and adfiere with the utmost
strictness to what was called the Continental sys-
tem, at the very moment when he (11tmaparte)
was relaxing it for himself, for his tiwu benefit
aid enjoyhtent. In pursuance of the plan die
had formed he invaded .Swedish Pomerattih, bat
intimater! to Sweden, that if she would assist hhn
to conquer Russia, by attacking her with 40,000
men on the side of Finland; he would give Fin-
land to her, and in every thing efse support the
interests hf Sweden. WlLit then was the sititatiOn
of these two piawcrs ? He thooglit the Ilimse Mustfeel,
feel, that if Russia had not been enabled to secure.
herself againFt an attack on the side of Finland,
while linonaparte led his athities agaittst her Ott
the Vistula, she luttc.,t have so divided her nritiies,
as to make herself wholly iheompetenf to meet
the arms of Francez---:mccessinily to withstand the
mighty shock. lie thott,,,,,ht the individuals form-;
ing the Swedish Governmeht, in the circumstances
orthht country having lately lost Finland, were
boutid well to consider on what grounds of policy
they should refuse to accede tr the propositions
of France, He held a vain anxiety for territorial
acquisition to be an unworthy feeling ; but con-
tended that Sweden had a right to took for mili-
tary, security tin the side of Norway. .11 they
looked to 1808, they would see that entice, to
force Swedeti.to come into the Continental Sys-
tem, bad compelled Denmark to gh to wht With
Sweden, and to threaten her with an invasion from
Norway Such was' the means taken by Frahce
to coerce Sweden to conform to her measures and
submit to her decrees. He would ask. the Right
HonAlentleman Allen, if the assistance of the
Swedes was of any importance to Germany, how
could they go there without first obtainiag secu-
rity ontheside of Norway ? lie could not, see how
she could go without. 'l' he adfairs of fattrhp'e Ii id
been so elninged, that Dentitark,h. whiareYer.fdie
was formerly, could nut be indepehrieht -; she
must bend to the influence of. France, mid CCLAili*
this, the most rationhl course which Ssvedevt could
pursue, was to endeavour to 'eat:hide French hi-
flaCtlCe from all the Northern shores al the Bat,
tie, lie now came to state what had been
the effects produced by Sweden on the last cam-
paign. The Russian army of Finland regularly
amounted to 80,000 men.. ‘Vhat then would have
been the consequence, had Sweden, with her in-
.creased military force (for since that individual,
who now principally ruled her councils, had been
made hei• crown Prince, a great increase-had been
made, and as a military power she Was HOW very
different from what she, bad been) what would
have been the consequence had site Closed with
the overtures of Iluottaparte,. and Torre Over to
him ? Could Russia has e done what she had done
if SWedert had acted thus ? If Sweden had not
been embarked with Russia; site might have Mareh-
cd her hrmies to the frontier, leaving that corps
of 18,000 men to guard her capital, which she
afterwards sent to the assistance of Russia, am'
white fought under General Wittgenstein, If
Sweden had acted thus, the issue of the.last Cam-

paign Irould not hare been such as it was, Had
Sweden acted such au angenernus part, the vic-
tories of General Wittgenstein on the Dwina
would nerer have taken place, as by their means,
the action in which he was engaged was
detet-
mined ; and the retreat of the French front

I cow was rendered, through them, much inure dis-
astrous than it would other Wise have been, But
for the close and intimate alliance of swede!),
Russia could not so stiece.ssfally have repelled the
enemy; the retreat of. Moscow Might have been
destructive ; but not so destructive as it had been,
had Sweden given her weight on the other side,. in-
steakl.of•tighting the battles of Russia under Witt-
genstein. From the character which aelonged to
Denmark, from her cominct in when she
actually declared war against Sweden, in obedience
to the mandate of France, it was impossible
'Sweden could he safe without excluding. French
intinenCe from the Northern shores of the Baltic.
It was for the Swedish Government to de-
termine to close with France to get Finland
restored, or to resolve to stand or full w;th
Russia. Uniting with Russia it was necessarily
their policy to e-Itclude Freneh influence frifin
the North, and'not to calculate on what might be
the timid policy -of Denmark. Rus,;ia, he con-
tended, bail a legitimate cause of war with Den-
mark, if, she had thought proper to act upon it ; '
at the time the Treaty was concluded bee ‘,..‘,!i; her
and Sweden. ,At the period to Which lie aitodt-d,
so prpdominant, so terribly= predominant, was the ,

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power of France in Europe, that if its groitest
military powers were efinstrinned of Mareh their
armies 'in; auxiliaries to us;.,ist in the subjug,:ation of
Rasvia, Denmark was Called Upon to assist in this
tiniler;l;4liilig 5 snit though she' could not send an.
army into the field to unite with the French ar-

mies, she was obliged to furnish her contingent
accommodation. She agreed to line the shores of
the Baltic with her troops, to complete the tie-
strnotion of RUSSia, and the exact spot was point-
ed out which they were to occitpy. They were
to .ccupy the Duchy of Oldenburgh, a pluce which

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ptiii:4t-tiaistrati, and Which, If tint delftany
Itatssiatii Was sti tonneeted With Russian
and.,Res,iati into 'tests; that Russia had a just
of war wit) Dedittaik tin thus 1,e40t, it she !: t
thought proper to act tipon it. t.';wedett,did tw!,
welt :a cathe for war, liter coniloet wafi
by the neces,.;.ity of the eieTe. To preser‘e e.%.‘ •
thing dear iu ba;nrope, it wos nceessarV.l7,
each infleenee front the Northern Shone,
iii i;
lialtie. This effected, Sweden could be indepeielhe
if she clro.SC ; it.id she did choose to he so, nee
trusted, had aiready-inade considerable tavilo:
towards independ,auce. . Ile came :now to !peek
of the part which. this !nit' Tilt!
Treat cute into by Swedeo and iite,sia was
conumolicatc.d to the lingllsh Government :.in
last Year. Ilad not the -War eyeluided itt the
forth, it s probable they wohl,i ver.
been eceuginted with it; st fat ions , anti it w
also probable. they att,ould nave,' face acted •
upon. ilad riot --stich a war lire)!; c.' oat, it seas
likely. they would have been etniTidered as lia.,'lng
been entered into for 'their maned conservation,
anti as that which was not to be, resorted to in
t lines of safety. 'The English be,
re-
eeived strong representations from both the ails-
sian and Swedish Governments, claindog their ac,'
cession to the'.treaty, and desiring to know it
lingland would embark with Ressia and Sweden
in the. plan which they had formed, The answer
of our Government to this had been, they eoald
see nothing. that merited reproach in the condo: t:
of the Governments Of Russia and Sweden. That
they were justified by the necessity of the ease,
that they would act with them, 'anti give what
assistance they could to the parties. They, IT
ever, haul declined becoming II party to the Treaty,
unless, entering* into digit an engagement,. tliey
could do something for the (annum') cause of lieu- •
rope. The RuSsian armies were at that time re-
tiring, and felt the necessity of staking as demote-
stration iii Germany, to prevent the whole mass
of the French armies tailing on them at (we.—
'ite English Government proposed to the Swedish
Governrneet to effect this, and offered in that -ele,4!,
not only to accede' to the treaty in the qualified-
manner in vi hich she had done, but to become a
party to it, and to assist Sweden with a stdisily.,
Sweden, thought she had required the cession of
Norway as a inelitnittary, haul relaxed in her de-
mends, so far xs it haul been hoped would induce
T)ceniarl. to join the league against Ftance.
llli-
rtiit:•r', pressed as they had been by Russia to
conclude the arrangement with Sweden, had found
Sweden desirous of giving effect
,to the wishes of
Russia, but the obstacles which had stood in the'
way not only justified the conduct of Sweden, but
made it impossible for her to exert herself more
than she had done in opposition to Prance. The.
armament' which Sweden had prepared in the
last campaign had such an effect on Iltionaparte,.,
that be bad kept two carps d'orinez to watch it, -
between the Vistula and the Danish territories-- ,
the one at Stralsund, the other a,,t lionigsburgh ;
and thus no fewer tbati skty thousand French.
troops:vere kept in Ge7niatiy, which would other-
wise have marthed into It was not till th.e
season was very far advanced that litionaparte
yeeiterefl to mote one of those corps ; taut when it
at length inai.ched into Russia, it :lid not joie the
Treneu army till ilfzer the battle at' tiorodino,
Sweden hod therefore not wily esit.fetially servecl:.
the cause, het fradncontribated la!'gr....ly to t lie sal,-
Vatic/A ut the Russian empire. No e;ifitary man. •
could do other, L• c
than approve of I' ointliet of'
Sweden in the last emopaigue li the English
Government* had done other tisane assent to :he
Treaty couch:fled between Russia and Sweden, it
would have ~hook the Whole itll'anceof the North,
amt as relaxation in their efforts wouhl hove takeu
place, instead of the most united exertions ev.er
made in the history of. War. In the last campale;o,
Atte
nEnglisit Government refused to advance the
sulmitly, which ,Nwedell required., 'Fite language tieeo
held was—" I.\'cl.\'cn e can riot withd . raw any portion 0:-
the romurces of this Country front the Allies QC
England,' who are iiow actually in the tiehl to
assist you, but from the moment when you ran,
COlivey' .yotwselves to the Continent, you will he,
on a par with those who are already fighting the
Common enemy, and that assistance which we can.
afford sic will, You know the principle on whCii,
we act that complie&with, we shall be happy
to give you any aid in our power." • In the month
of. February, a pew representatian 09 the subject .
of Sweden was received from Russia. In jitstioe,
to Russia, he felt it right to state, that her
duct had in no instiince been selfish, Never hal.
any country engaged in so mighty a striegle press.
,ed so little on hn Ally for pecuniary ait.r. It wee,
not till she was,,pressed on her own frontier that
representations tvere, strong on the subject of
Sweden. A courttry'plscea in her situation, to
gtord against a recurrent e of the necessity far
making so great ,an effort for her salvation, xv.s
justified itt eallieg on all connected with her for
the greatest aids they could supply. *She stated
'herself to be ready to call forth her EesOitt'CCl to
the utmost, to try to rescue Prussia front t!'lk• s-
ttlatiOtt to wiliell she had been reduced ; it ',,
stated' with much military inteligtoice, that
was fearful that when the French '•• tinny
the Prussian fOrtret;F•Cs, ;infl particularly ire ,Le
line of the thler, that tullcss a tojlit,l:•v
Sinn' were made in lier favour, :;itt,
Able to face the French ihde.
she is us to prevail on Sweden to feet i •
Sweden in the last eaMpaigii lr of refosed to p,o.
self in the rear of to titA>ll,oo',
best soldiers at Petrov. wog now
to her, that acting in Cie rear of Ow
would be in a diirereht siihatioh, as die- ‘voo;

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art :rgaitist• a foyer rciliteed 1C rtiiiiibers,
tIC ellicienev, abt,ve all
.licti,lec(l.

!;c1)""";`"L • T nl:ece hyrself it) this situ
however, was to • • t peril • nd .1 •
t 4t a
,slic• required 01. El4;l:titti to enficat 0,;,
confine the force pri.seitt in Zeal n-. .;
thtit ,island, to give a Subsidy, and then uienti,-i
et! what hail been brought forward before-4,...c
gwritsh ttiltyolni'giishseetsl tt h('1), etgiving liittlt's. t;
t
its
tior latslecieloirfe e‘l%::r:
ou good oflires, Ire could not seetue it to her
the return of Peace. The eession of this iOtauti
Was of peat advantage to Swedvn, but -an
tage equally great was obtained by' England i tr'r
nothing Was more important to Lnzland, thin to

the l7th with autottr (tom Minn tpArte, stating
'ie wiA ready to agree to
•Congress, b..:ing held at
Prague, where all the great Powers sho'ald be re-
presented He enumerated those for and those
against him, and it might have been expected,
that if lie had not known Bernstnrff Was charged
ivith propositions to which England could not ac-
cede, he would at any rate (knowing what had
taken place at ilan►burgh, and knowing that
Bernstortf was in London), leave omitted the
name of Denmark among l►is Allies, as he did
that of •Austria. Instead of doing this,. low-
ever, Denmark• was placed the second on, the
list, being only preceded by the United States of
America. This, too at a time when it was im,
possible for him to have been informed• of .fie
British Ambassador's return. -He' believed Den-
mark, though at heart no friend to France, was
at present afraid to risk offending Baonaparte,---
The first proposition made front Denmark to this
cotititry, was on the 2iith of February ; the basis
offered was, that we should make a separate treaty,
and if we acceded to this, that we should h -
render all our comptesiA, without receiving an
equivalent, make complete restitution of her fleet,
and indemnity for its seizure. We were tints to
go down upon our knees to Denmark, give up all
we have gain- d, and make atonement in every
respect. Did these prapositions.seem dictated by
a sincere desire for peace with England His sin-
cere belief was, that the object. of. Denniark had
been merely to gain. time. Our stnswet therfore
was, that we could only vie‘y her proposition as
indicative of a disposition to change her, policy,
and that six weeks before full instructions had

give other nations an interest in struggliug with
her for the conservation of the liberties of the
world. Two objects were gained 1)y this cession :
in the first instance, we gave Sweden a natmad
interest to be friendly with this country ;
the second, we gave her a particular interest in
miming the projects of France. He felt it quite •
tionecessary to offer any apology for thiS part ot,
the Treaty, after the great militaly discussions
that :had taken place, in which an Officer, who
Lad again left this country (General trope) had
taken a distinguished part, and displayed great
ability as to the mode in which the operation of
Sweden could be most useful to the common
cause. Sweden had determined on acting a most
gallant part. Their object was to give the Rus-
sians the power of advancing farther into Ger-
many than they could otherwise have done. Af-
ter the calamity which betel the French army,
which was of. the greatest magnitude, as diseases
thinned their ranks when the sword had ceased
to. destroy, and reduced their once grand army
to a ttere wreck, they were unable to take
tip the line of the Oder, and the Russians
were enabled to penetrate this grand military har-
t er, without assistance from Sweden ; but the
Ilouse would see that the proposed aid of Sweden
might have been most important. He hoped time
Ylense would not think what had been given to
obtain such co-operation had been unwisely eon-.
ceded. What, had been given had been given with
a.view to secure some great advantage to the
common cause ; hut in all the arrangements which
had taken place, an eye bad been had to the possi-
bility of detaching Denmark from the intereA of
France. Of this, however, sanguine hopes could
not be entertained, as Denmark was at Poster
Which had always been in the habit of seeking
safety in submission to France: A
,knowledge of
thii ought to save Sweden front reproach, as it
must be remembered that she had 'been' exposed
to invasion through it, and that Sir J. Moore,
with ten thousand men, had been sent to Sweden,
to co-operate with the Swedes in repelling an ats
tack from that point. Still, however, the poSsi-
bil4yof detaching Denmark from France had been
kept in view hy the Midst) Government, and such
modifications had been proposed to Sweden with
respect to Norway, to as great an extent as the
Bight Hon. Gentleman opposite could wish Swe-
den had intimated to Denmark, that she was
ready to discuss with her the point in question.
Denmark had been apprised of the engagements
of England. He (Lord C.) had particularly in-
strutted Mr. Thornton to state these to the Danish
Ambassador at Stockholm, that his Government
might not be kept in the dark on the subject. Swe-
den bad manifested a disposition to relax as far as
she could. (What relaxation did she make, was.
asked by Mt% Ponsonhy ) He (Hord Castlereagh)
would tell the Right Honourable. Gentlemen.—
The great stumbling block in the way was not
the cession -of, Norway for an equivalent, but
the cession of it as a preliMitiary as required
by Sweden was the great obstacle. The Right
lion. Gentlemoo Seemed quite provoked at the
mention of an equivalent, but when bad a treaty
of peace been concluded of late years without
equivalent 1 The doctrine, of equivalents threw
no difficulty in the way, but the difficulty arose
from Norway being required as a preliminary,
absolute, and not contingent. Sweden, however.,
lied so far relaxed as to say, '' though I feel time •
whole of Norway necessary to my security, yet if
the power of France be diminished, I will be
content .with abe Bishopric ofDrontheitn." Swe-
den in making this proposition was not actuated
11V a sordid desire of acquiring property, for she
. intimated that she ,was not indisposed to alienate
Pornerania. If Denmark,
ifrom a feeling that her
honour was affected by the cession of the crown
of Norway, raised a difficulty on that account,
SwedenavaS ready to enter into her feelings, and
say, this shall be arranged at the conclusion ofat
general peace, and I will leave it to Denmark to
take Norway, or the equivalent "tendered, with
inulerstanding that she will not refuse to cede.
to me Drontheim, if she prefer Norway." Swe-
Oen, lie contended, was actuated by no base and
sordid motive. In the first campaign, she bad
sacrificed her own subjects to the common cause,
in this she had raised her auxiliary force from 15
to 35,000 men. He felt it a ditty to protect her
character and repel the unfounded attack which.
lied been made upon her awl Russia.. Ile noticed
and lamented the fail of Hamburg!), but observ-
ed, the Government bad at least the satisfaction
of knowing they had excited no false hopes, They
bad promised no aid which they had not etiolated
—they had thine all that had been required of
them in sending arms. He explained the conduct
of the Swedes'at Hamburgh much to their credit'.
Wheo hut 12,000 men bad landed there, they
were fearful of placing themselves between the
French and the Danes in the situation in which
Sweden and Denmark had stood with respect to
each other. • The Swedish Commander, however,
with the feelings of a brave soldier, imprudently
(as ;t had been thought)
.advanced to the assist-
ance of I lambnyg,b; Old ' had ; 'ultimately been
obliged to retire by night to avoid being cut ocr
With his corps, a conjoint movement having been
made by the Ft-elicit and Danes .for that purpose.
A great disposition existed to believe that no ob-
st tele had existed to the union of Denmark with
the Allies but Norway. The Right Hun. Gent.
had said the Danes had been committed against
the French in' Hemintrgh. The acts of the sol-
diers, he tsvould observe, might nothe the acts of
their Government, any more than were the acts of
the Saxons, who were at one time seen assisting;
the Prassions in besieging the French in the for-
against the; Allies.
tresses, and at another fighting
NO national conclusion was to be drawn from this,
any more than from the conduct tne 'sang h
of
Saxony, who was seen one Itly flying to Angtrt
for prote.ctiOn against France, and the next flying
frO*dri Austria to the arms,;of BiloiraParte• It was
trees: clasp that what, bats taken place at•Hamburgh
Was authorised by the Amish 4.3overtunent.-7-
3?rionaparte did not appear to view it
in .that . light.
Ile did not asfonuefioin tha t tat t 1 CI the -nvernmeat
of; Denmarkwa,4 alienated from hill '' • • v. his Was plain
from his conduct ; for on thOlfith -May Count
arrived at his head-quarters with certain PiO-
pasitions from the Court of Austria. returned on

been given ti) Mr. Thornton (who was then at
.Stockholm), to treat with Denmark, so that ne-
. gociations .cotild be entered into with hiru with-
out loss of -9nc. Denmark would not negociate
with Sweden; and her fir§t proposition was', that
we should violate the engagement; we hail entered
into with 11. assist and Sweden, by, entering into a
separate treaty with her. The propOsitions were
so intolerably insulting, that was difficult to
listen to them with temper. By way of . preface,
she demanded, that we should violate our-engage-
ments with our Allies ; and then she. demanded,
that we should surrender alt our conquests gritt
onsly—surrender her fleet—untie compensation,
and guarantee the integrity of the whole of her
dominions, but more especially of Norway, Which
she knew we had engaged Sweden to obtain.
flc offered this explanation to vindicate the AllieS few the
very unjust, imprudent, a,,il severe imFutations which had
been thrown on them. Some jealoosy secined feat, with
respect to the individual who had hecto the _rown Prince
of Sweden. It was a bold thing to answer for the conduct
of any man in so lkh a situation, but with respect to this
individual,. they bad some Means of judging of his elmracier,
Ile (Lord Castlereagh), had never heard any thing of him
which was not honourable to him as a man, Ind which did
nuttend to establish the integrity and parity of his character.
Ile had never heard of his cooduct in any country into which
be had formerly carried the arms of • France, which pas not
eminently advantageims to his personal character. Fur tt
considerable time he had rxercised the highest office in Sweden
with the greatest justice and lenity, and without any view
to his own emolument. It was natural for him to have felt at-
tac`unent to France, but when the conduct of Frahec Went to
overturn the whole systetu of things where he was, lie frilly tuld
Buonaparte, that he (Bernadotte) must act fur the interest of
the country which had adopted hint. Ile came to. ti,veden
with atl .tehnients to Pratte, het he did not come to betray
her. When the tyranny of rranee was tarried su fir that.tc-
sistance was necessary, he did not be si.ate to oppose Houma.;
parte, trod that too at a monteut svinelt wait the I,e,t. ha ,could
have Outsell. to do so, had he not been a bold man, 'that • at
which, noshed with duccess, the 'Ruler of Frauee threatened
to overwhelm kursin. ii. load acted faithfully and honourably
trep to the present time, and lie (Lord would tint he the
man to argue that. he would now depart front that line of
conduct. tic hoped the House would not hesitate to. reject•
the Addresi of the Right lion. Gentleman, as the allegations
it contain, d were unfounded. It went to east such a censure
on Ministers as would pronounce them wholly unlit to lie en-
trusted with the (ioveroment ; and, above all, it went to de-
grade our Allies, by pronouncing those cug4emeins into
which they bad entered to be unbecoming, unjust, tool dis-
graceful.
Mr. CANNING thought itincurnbent on him, from having
forinerly held the station now (Wed by the Noble. Lord, to give
an exitosition of his opinions on the sub:ect of this Treaty,—
firM,feeling nit reading it was, be believed, in unison with
the:iestling of the coantry—a sense of sbatee, .regret, mud in-
dignation. The SpeaCh of the Nowt and-the exptana-
firms lie had given, had removed that in a degree, but hart not
taker, away his objection to the principle. The world had no
opportunity of judging of the doentoent before them, with the
Noble Lord.s.ex,planations attached to it. It had gotir thrOngli
Lurope, and would gu to posterity to decided upon by'its*
own merits, and upon the matters therein stated, the House
had to givii an oputiotr. , lie acknowledged that telly discus-
implicating the conduct of foreign powers ought in he •
avoided, but no considrration of this.,hinff cOuld hid to,. the
house hot to record its .opinilit, or censure Ministers, if they
thought tit, for nets tortilla' they had bevome accessary. At t he'
period while he (Nit:C.) was iu othee,anexpeditiott w.us under-
taken againstNorway,hut then we were at warwitliDemlealyoui
there was a verygreat difference between a military eNpedition
against men enemy, and disposing before hand of the conquests
made in other countries.`!'his tight we bad' always protected
against in France, and it was the achnUwledged law of na-
tions trot to dispose of conquests during the War, which could
not be transferred in perpetuity till the possession was•sanc-
Cloned by Peace. We taught have engaged to mid our best to
procure for Sweden what she wanted,' when Peace ceMe to
b 6 concluded; hut no Law of Nations entitled us to convey.
them away in the manner we bad done. He agreed with the
Nithle, Lord, that the position taken hySweden dorio4 the last
campaign, had done great service to the common eau •e, by re-
leasing a Russiao force' and for this it might per Laps not
have been too lunch to have compensated her out of her men
incan.2, have cou Id not proper] y reivard her in t he way pointed
out by this Treaty. lie was .not. sure that this was the tigld
wav; nor indeed had the Noble Lord bee,l, for he had paused
upoti it from July to March, and thou ;weeded to the mea-
sure, not retrospectively, but with the view 'to co-operation
in the common course, lie professed not perfectly to Under-
atartSkihe di,Liocl dravt by the Noble Lord between the
step taken by this ronntry, and the gitaratitee
Russia by Lets Treaty conserved Norway to Sweden
it, perpetuity, and ,he saw DO wio,ls its tours which led
to a different conrltt,ion as to the enfagement we had
entered into. Mere be examined the Treaty, ta•• shew
teat tliia proposition was not expressly negatived,
it, e%istence iii force upon us was ,to be understood. if it
iv:0; not so, however, mot mill our engm,:ement. was ;nerdy
a military exertimi, then, he cont.!sie(t, the mein part of his
objection. on this head would he thou awn. The Noble
1.,,rd had enlarged upon the Ito opositious made to us t Ilvu-
inark these he eonsudered to he (dna consequence; but the
question was, if in our offer to Denmark ~ve had proposed any
4,1,1;,,0 as to the ce,sion of Norwatl•.? The difficulty tie felt as
to the moral culpability of this set would be 4i.vilified, were
he assured that, previous the agreentrot fit t lie cession of
Norway, Denmark had any option ; and seeon,l;y, it pa ac.
ceding to the Treaty it was tllltattStool.l tho.t wa were to lend
our aid to a military operation, and Lot to aguarantee, it
would he a great Moonvenience in any uegociations in which
we might now he culled on to take ail :n;toe'part, to hay,. to'
say we want the 'dismemberment ofd great tof p.a.; agreat
dom. If, however, he was told that what we had prinni4ed
limited to the Cootinental war, his great objection wMthl
done away, and he would only sae lie eves sorry the matter Could
have been so misunderstood. Willi fes,l"-t t" 0", adalouPet
()hie) ittigiereseldikiteic)attofth: reathuineral oliTinclutf,rtte.ll: aSntlialife
mentbere t
fur 4"vicdes''t this island
t te')lti'nat.l,44lPl'plaretbbtali: ctide ems-
hot huht ad s ede ti;ittitl,(ittinceouutl ta
,otto
i:,l,,ltreintdigt.tob.,l%Wve,ed;:nt,inti,
that t t
;),
obtain it for that Power at
i~ could
enter into, was to do her utrnos
otherwise
was
c0nt,,,,,, to
the, conclusion of a peace. To do y

,11 E S N.

i,11.101' E. RE: rm,Avm ..kuni;NT ?

14.0 N 1) 0 N,
SATURDAY, 'JUNE 19;1813.

the law of fir.timns ; aiitl lie oltieefeti to it, ncit Mt tilt store of
'intnn:elity, h,it a. nutting to 0114aele. in the way of pe.t Se.—
Guadaloupe cotill not enable' SWediat.lo make a gi.4.ocr
stand ten tie tow-intit ; and without to exprr:; to
opioinn, he wool,l say,'tli.it England Itatl experienced
etionch to teach her not to put out of her hands that whiCh
eeutehl tnaMe her to Receive continoitil co-operation. By
eeditig this Island, we would have to pay the enemy dear itt
tital;:iti pence, aml ,froin tnuitux to the ni.orket with fewer
compensations to oiler, we would he les a ethic to twilit- our at--
rang-einents fur Spoilt, Sicily, and the East Itt.lics. Ott these
grounds he disapproved of this p:trt of the Treaty. The Right
Gentleman then offered a few reload:4 on the mode in
which the sense of Parliament cinch! he taken on a. subject of
this description ; and concluilialhy condemning. a part. of the
conduct, of Miiiister.; but could nol think it right to -record
that portion of the Ili-41a Iloitouroble Gentle:bare& amend-
•,\.hitli in a,complieated manner rcferrett to the actions
of it,:

Lord eAsruntr,Acn, in explanation, said, ns to the guaran-
tee of Norway to Sweden by this country, he was surprised
that any doubt could remain on .the stOnject„, particularly in
a mind so well disciplined in diplomacy as thnt of the I.l.ight
Honourable Gentleman. There could be no misconception
on this head on the part of Swealen, for the matter bad been
distinctly di..:ettssed, and sot:it-guarantee by Great Britain was
not given. The difference between the Russian engagements.
and oar's Was, that the former wts bound 11„). secure Norway,
to Sweden, while were- in st pulation hunod to cede nothing
but what we poi,;e4seil onrselces, ant put Sweden into - the
shoes of the Kimn of Great Britain.. Those who fought toge-
ther would treat together. We were bound not to uppo.ae
the compest of Isi'onvay, hot to exert. Ourselves for the com-
mon interest. With regard to the Waver of Nor Way, it- had
been been made by General Hope, Mr. Thornton, and a Swe-
dish Minister, with full powers, and of,icially enablA to come
to a coaelltsive arrangement on that point.
Mr. CA- x.vaNt; and Lord CASTLEIIEAtiti said.a few words in
mutual explanation.
W. W.YNt•tc supported the Amendment, and reprolta‘ed
the idea of ashing Denmark 10' relinquish a eatintry so much
attached to her, so productive of vallable commaditie,s, and
possessed of so tine. a population. as Norway:
Mr. FosTnn maintained, that -the grounds on which Mi-
nisters had proceeded were perfe.ctlyjustitiable, and truly po-
litic arul wise. ,
Mr. Win fintEAD itt very.stron; language animadverted on
the Treaty As for the cession of Norway, it was just the
same as if the lteru'ilic of rrance had (ml neconnt of dist&
fection)'ceded Ireland to Spain. He had come down to the
I-loose full of the fee units de Scribed by a Right lion. Gentle-
Man ;Mr. Canning'', ; but thott,;,b the Noble Lord'S Might he
tailed a very. goo:1 .peeeh, it had not taken away the sting
from his condemnation of liis • Measure. We tt ere adopt-
ing the prineilties we had sa long condemned in France,
tri‘bed to know what ~amid could result from the Armi-
stice, front the Swedes, when it was hnown *that the Crown
Prince had not s'irred a Step. t-ie, all:nled to-the -pattngyric
bostowed upon Bernadotte, which he thought sinzular to hear
from a British Mitr,ter, at the end of the twenty years war
ill which ,tt had heel; engaged, and in which he had risen to
him high dignity itt the service of Iltionaparto. When the
Swedish nation, fallowing the example set 'them by this coun-
try in a former period, i-,tai:lneed the happy I esson'of s'ettd-
ing from t tliront! one rit t rule, he was glad to hear that
their ne”.';: eleet4ol dynasty was so worthy.
Mr. CIO:NINO Siv,oified that, if the Right Hon. Gentleman's
Amendment was lost, he would propose an A utellilU3ellt, the
object ot,whielt !should he to call fur inforMatioa respecting
the terms of to Denmark. •
Mr. PoNsoNtitt shortly replied. He thought the character
ref Ett_thand was her beat interest, and no benerit taco-opera-
tion could =lie her amends fur acceding to this infannous
agreeMent. .
•Lntrd CA CM again explained,. and the Gnftlery was
cleared for a dirlsion, when the numbers were, a, we under-
'stand—
•
_ _ _

Fo M r r. Ponsouby's Amendment ...... , ll5
_Against it • 224
Najoril y.- for Ministers • —.10!
• The House again div;tleit on Mr. CANN! N *.l's Amendment
.Ayvs , . . . . • . 121
.
Nuys
Majority for Ministers .... ' —lO4
The Itesolatiort of tiump4 waq the carried of course.
The Other. Orders of the Day Nere.disposed of, and at One
&chick an Adjournment took place till 'Monday.

• MAILs.
I. RIVWtt--2 (iotteltlrte.ol, 1 (Thertisey, 1 'er*ey.
DUE-1 Waterfprd.

PRICK OI CFOCK.Si
r).tv +.l I %vv.' vv. o'ci.ocrt.
•
. • ;.:•1b 4'7 ;7, I ()tattittut 4l 5.4#H

We have this day given a short extract from
the Gottenburgh Nails to the 13th, and the Heli-
goland-Mail to the 1 l th, the .chiet and indeed
only material information in which, we had yes -
ter:lay the pleasure of **Communicating .to the
public. The extreme pressure, of Parliamentary,
matter, upon very important' subjects, prevents
our entering upon any observations citi the intelli,
genre lately received, which is, nevektheless, most
satisfictory, and calculated to,inspire new hopes
of the liberation of Continental Europe
At a late hour last night dispatches were re-
ceivetl by Government from the head-,quarters of.
the Allies, near Breslau, in Silesia, _dated the 2*l
inst. They contain the details pf the partial actions
fought subsequently to the great battles of Baut-
zen and Wurs.tchen ; Find. mention the negociatious
which had been entered into for sin Armistice,
the Conclusion Of which our Readers know took
place on the 4th, two days later than the date of
these dispatches.

It, is tepoeted from Llold's that an Ans
trian Messenger came by the last packet
from Gottenburgh, and has reached town
with displtetes ; so that the whole views of that
Power, and a clear insight into the state of re-
lations among the Powers to be, t ongiegated to-
gether on this moment,ons occasion, will speedily
be before the Ittitish Public. No such person
has reached the Foreign-office.

cech.

_ -.-
11:1)!islwil WJLI.IAM AHMIGKI; SC,lllPps, Soutl- tfolton.street, Grosvennt.square,
I,C;Mx.iN ty J. 11, ClVlttaitilt.S„ Igo.', Craven-buildings;
Al the Su No 112, Strand, where Arivoligemendw, Orders for the Popet,Letteislor the Editor, Sic. (p43t-pc.ild), npast be addressed.

terly void of foundatiOn.—Uany of his
nielitsr ire 3!'e proud ,to sily; a.have from time 1'
time anticipnied ; but they were in this dch'it'‘
th,a
placed in so coxvincing a point of view,
must particularly request the attention of "r
readers to the incontrovertible facts; the sou tol
itnd logical reasoning ; the broad political viely
and'the ftsdd ofinformatiOn cOntained,in this abi.e

The CuvinerS, foiled in. thi> their great theer:,
have co-day broke out upon another—the sitrunioti:
•at Vor
Of the American nary, ud"'
the. late .tlfair
at
By those Who think Ministers can controul
elements,
• " Ride on the *hirlwind, and direct the storm,"
their condemnation will be thotighewell-100d,c15
iet
to who ekpect no such poWers in ally
men, the appear idle, nonsensiCal, and
ob'icr".
We hive not at present room for many
dons.; briefly we say—if
.the sagacious writ°
could change the seasons', he NVOUId be quite right
in lila:fling ;NE isters ; lint there is reason to hcliev,e,
that Sir J. YE(I WOUld wait the
tt,..'ripooet:tili:attitsletlitceereb:ra(jsreat3ie' 9cf:Tutitlidil;ii;te:ni troll ti
i:r3"")1,
fur launching ; it is not tine that (lie captriv
ority orithellke'
and as to gtii:e.etnlet t'eri ttcotei(t)irire of call the vessel j
what that all aniouni to ?—why, by 114'
enemy's Davis account, " vessels tit tor u,c
6,0 1:
—but the Editor of the Titles, it seCllii,
better.

GC7TTENI3UItOI.I MA I I',
,„ Awe.
GoTTENlstlit C; ft , Jv N I.; 12. --There • i.; i'" ' WV4 ,
ricau privateer of '2O gttns, dud' 170 1 ill,
N(null Se-4, supposed to have been fittcti ow
li EAD-QUUtTEItS, A'lltil111):1111!si'l:N11, 1.1"1. ~,b
tNro:ju'll;iiiaye,d;atetselli;::l ill. ellli:gelice lieing` received eith••••l.l.,:ti'i',l,'
troops, unde'r' ti:ieeil cilonanniliallitiuull? 7ittbajliei°r-bjettlt3erlia'll:4l:cll:l'
jirte3
that city on the Ist in,tant, and, to suppini tbevs 11.
,l, 0.
dilachtnents have been quartered itil3Cigedorft; !'.'2' ...i,
GiidCbusrb. .l all'
• • ' tr Opt ~
'" Itninediately after the airival of the Swedish ~,,
French, who, to the lintuLcr of 2 or 3,000 roeu, au”'ler-C:0114t
rid Van Darrune, were in potsession of Will'cl'n'burs,!,,do,
1,2 1
psmireeonaccneeewddheaidl
eh
against
heavy fire ec
II
lo) naettonlrti the
rcity,ogfh ,7 oaono4
ne, s,pne, c liini I lby :3 if: bag; i a ft 4;
425 ,
tairemdeadica;tldheonFeturnncarhmbeaddyteossel ; buatnwd lt:kt hi:: s:ri: ::::.b,re ::sl'''
- - - -104
pass 8 place where ther;io
of I;.`_
pieces of artillery planted, with
King'smasrchiug regitnent. The French fired ottith
such
cf..
the boats and vessels,, villa' fire was returnedt usk
0fi.,07,
re,
feet, that the prize-vessels were, after a stn i
..
~ 1,
fired on the I nut' maize' i.e
taken, vvith an officer anti ,2.0 men, wl".""%
the
ceocd'
e4ape. At three ..o'clock in the Morniog tia m',
from both skies.
ihe light haft;
thern
_rot:
h of these affairs:
single man killed or wounded in
and either
Rid and 24th Was quiet
er,,,,5,
" The night betweenthe 23
' • Geulzi Litf.;oo
. " On the morning of the 24th, Mwor, 0 .
or the di .
arrived at Honshu rgh , and took Com no
_at,. 411,, 00011.0
' " On the night, between the 22(111!
which had been under Liiut.-Gen.l3aron Ps 7,.., sir, ofietta
4"rwo Deputies frotn
city, but with the. Swdc,..-4913:11r ttbreorrop: "1:1)a tl:igo3g: '
to his
itlts
tl
Royal.ePa protection
s ,t
Highnessb
orit
he banker,44Ncii Ma
jr.:e• e:srtu.
Grown
i tehst prince;ei:ir:li reaa Yrt:
II vl
eye:
theirl';::: : :ctliert: ,
i
d at LiverPl
A Portuguese vessel has arilive n the lOth lt..
from New•Tork, which she letyLosviv. welt',
andge.
1,1
tt...belyv:
EThiter
or
ole
*Tti havesi
f4t.e_cDeivy edOe t°' ' ° '
see are infornved that Havre de
li P
Grace the
family of (-,:), aid
has been burnt by our aqua that town, I !le
co,
dove Rodgers had their residence.at co casting ,hips
object wi...s the destrui:tioti:ol 3 ,)1 !Idiom
of
,jr
"Ike All is const,rnation. . PartleS two haYci „,,, 0
of v.-sr are lauding every wilide in thef the 80 tiltAv 3t
4"Fate and Imaw.ai-. itt tist',.,,diler lauding or iftoOt..
an :neonnt floutn Mitimorei st"—"' cif 'When the 11., 0..
Nur" Puna, 12 miles below the Y
(At -.., _ theiv 0n,t.1 tzr,
carne away, t.t.irrivisiiiinr, was seen bet%“,911,110,.e, 'I b4,-iiivr,:lr
litia front Fen 'N)int, which joins na:r.:.‘, from 133' _ ttio
•cargo of the ship saga, that the latest ttavt‘ci,
~..:45 brff:
~,,i,
priorio sailing, staled that Admiral Itrarr: %(,`311, -ri b.. 170,
eitY, and eeoild cltroy it. This ;vas turn: nactid Too w, °
account will infotut the result. Fic4:'itfsear." , A i
der arum, and nothing. heard hut tbc ("" tortalficv
ortuguestlijeusapstigtoiralollitoerf7l,
Yesterday the pitt;,l&.: rt F. o 1.:4 'l' ell
103
party at dinner at CarliOn-1130e• ug,tar4 ,i',l,
Yes'erdav Admiral Sir JAiirs SA at 01,1 '"
Iris first audience of Lord Aletcto-tr. fel
tuiralty, ,sineehis return to Engigni. , svi,
A poitscript to a letter front Ply 11
is
et;
ini,takenty; says, " A French frigate
taken' ,by '
ing into the Sound, said CO be .
Arwide." . Ai 110111°,jet .Is.
.
Til, delay in the th'parture of -'' r.„ clailik,ll-
- the continent, is not owing to -iii,J • file i'd
the aspect of the politics of the Na:tl;ooei, ',14
barkation of;,. General . STHWntur
.0.0 10,04
the.more •importantivici:cruointse7en,ol:lll:::::::jgt,.
been received at Deal for the proceediiniavoo, :to
i(elsattY:l; setnittajrkaseedur atw" the
Gell"111
er►c(4111)111
B:c%iti;:crl,eeaitcictii),t,P:littliaitilleil:elinsitaa,ioltm::ll.titele:
peisilitlte,
stt, Mist
o tight, Ministersh. t
.1 proved
ileearaS (1) reason
It
We t 7.11 iliiliCtintt.eit(l:nit'lPls (ea St:C.l.APeri °I:
SOI :'
tthel ert St)
t 14
31)°: Ill: rt.. (;1 b;:IeCC
Ct
' C/'''
ot ei,sr ,ofi .
haVe ventured on a leading , WV' f
i ar i i a inie li til 015(1t1 ..orflattel'citl. ttl.ltnrl•ltiblerni-
citit:wii
de 01: le. 'qasn. tie rriseee
to
of ft:: 11).:ensee,nv
ut : ror: it::: e . t
~,
iolift, ~
tioic.,
tht, ' ,re!'
►
to which I*. PE.6I, rcferre" in., i its %°,4ls''
SLVC exp 0 s i
ii 0
Iv
titan
Lollirit(tl'i ftcltolisrt,lll etptvan
Et I,Gm, possessed
1 ell - . w Thelllea...tlie" fat rt:rilni ferto:tn;lC°ll:tteciae' t:1):Telli:::Itslie c:e:nit"e.:;;;;I:')1°.:11:4;tl:11'1$1'
coutidence of a, ~. -• , the , Thursday, as a pinto( that fill the .3 113. 11 _ 0 iot
tniele.vicarteinleii,evscr.i:llll::ilit:tsiet‘i(vieihtbil
the
Nort.i,iertr
ploi%ice.a:sCs'y of
Thell'"eekfit•aStfterrelttebaet stnlx."%::i'll‘bveitilth.ftliticsl.l. el)":1:Li;!ll'c'i:
. month ie.littsweek Penptp..rorichittg._Nri.,
..,..0 0.,
hat tie,latiot,
,lielcia,
"Minister to the Senate:
'I
wl")1* cavils -11.*aave disitraced our
fol. the last 1
(ie
ruot;trated
to
bePreusts. nlat)(rles l'it:l:ol*PCiler:trrikrlatittiClCl-Clit°)ttltill!ecVse.trie tiltisiCle?'
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