The Sun.
London, England, 1813-06-24 00:00:00

MCMY EXTRAORDINARIES.

The:ChAtqcEt.r.oa of the EXCHEQUER said, that
.the intention of sending out to the Peninsula a
Member of they Board of. Ordnance to audit the,
accounts of the Commissariat, was suggested by
Lord Wellington. ,Ile would not detain the
House with any farther remarks, but propose that
• sum of 660,000/. be granted for the further defray-
ink the expellees of the army.
Mr. RENNET said, he must enter his protest
against the great expellees incurred by the war on
the Peninsrila. Ile would now ask what expecta-
tions, if any, were held Out by the Noble Lord
(Wellington) of bringing it. to a speedy termina-
tion The first item he would object to, vt as ths►t
which related to the Recruiting depbt on the coast
of Africa. He would ask, was it true, that Ma-
jor Winfield had been sent out there, for the pur-
prise of raising men.?. This he -looked upon as
impolitic. it .was a virtual revival of the slave
trade. - -

Mr. STEPHEN% said, that no imputation was
more unfounded than that of supposing that ,Go-
vernment" did not' exert itself for the total re-
Inoval of the Slave Trade. Their exertions to-
wards that end were apparent, even in the late
,Treaty with Sweden. The Blacks %vele found to
be better fitted for the West India service than
Europeans. Major Winfield spbmitted a plausi-
ble plan for recruiting on the coast of Africa, but
as he had recourse to some practices which !nay
be'called a revival of the Slave Trade, lie was put
under arrest. This shoved the sincere desire of
Government to have it pot dawn.
Lord CAiT4EREAO2I could assure the House,
that 'no efforts were omitted. on the part of Go-
vernment to do away the" Slave 'fracte:
Colonel Wool) said, that with respect to the
helmets allotted to, the reason for their adoption
was, that they were sabre proof, like those used
by the French dragoons. -
1441 r. FitahMANTLE said, the first objection he
bad to make WAS against certain su;ns to Sir S.
Smith, which, if he mistook not, appeared on the
Civil List before. The amount was 7,375/. for
losses sustained in Spain and Egypt. There was
another item which required explanation, that of
11,0001. for cast iron water-works to supply Cape
Town. There was an item for raising Dutch sol-
diers which he did not compreheud, and also
2000/. to General Aleuron.- There was also a
charge for a new depot of foreign officers at Ly-
mington which required information.
Mr. WnAaTot. said, the 116 n. Gentleman (Mr.
Freemantle) was able to point otit only a few items
as liable to objection. With respect to South
Wales, n. provisivin of the wart! nature appeared
,I:dlxati.ra::ra(slii:iiaor,;(e)6flarlit was
for
tine last year•
the whole expense of the cultlny: n'
mr.-AjjEncrtomat c wished that whitey
connected 'with South Wale, ini,,ht he whatever was
forward in a connected form. t"' tight

GOUL3ll:LTRl.l".said,tbat,sap expqme of the
cast iron water-works \vas ticirityca by tb* colony

itself. The depot .it Lymington was for officers
and men who had deserted from the French in the
Peninsula;
Mr. LAw, considering the style of conscription
-which klid of late years taken place in Europe,
doubted. much whether the military exertions of
this country would be. saficient •to meet such a
powerful engine hi the hands of the enemy.
Mr. BANICEs agreed, that no time was more
proper than the present for taking a general view
of the military system of the country. He should
lament greatly if in this country 'the conscription
were ever adopted as a meims Of opposing the
enemy. lie wished, in thV•first instance; to mark
his opposition ~to the proposition of the last
speaker, for resorting to the measure of conscrip-
tion..

Mr. LAW denied that he had proposed to recom-
mya the introduction of conscription into 11115.
COUptry but hoped he might .say, Greece had in
aneient days owed her safety to such a measure,
and Sweden was at this day raised to importance
by it, Ile had only said the war could not he
carried On with effect, without having recourse to
some measure for tilling up the ranks in the army.
This he contended was necessary to bring the war
to a glorious conclusion, and without this the
the country could neither carry on hostilities with
success, nor make peace with security.
General FEttousoN spoke against the measure
of conscription, and regretted that he had heard.
it mentioned in that Ouse as it had been .men-
tioned. Our troops, Lonsidering the climates in
which they were engaged, clad not sutler more than
the troops of Ow nations ; and this he was sure
of, the English Medical Establishment was better
than any. other.
• Lord PALMERSTON disapproved of the mention
made of Conscriptions. if our armies were not.
so numerous as those of other nations, they had.
qualities witiclt rendered, them more valualde.--:-
Those raised by voluntary enlistment were inure
effective than those raised by conscription ; 'and
he should think a General Would fed much,' more
confidence in an army raisvd, as our armies were
raised, than he could possibly have whit leading
to battle a band of slaves, torn from their homes
by force lie thought the present •period was not
that at which it could justly he 'said'-that our
troops Well: not well officered, after they had been
fighting so long, and with stud) great success•an-
der Lord Wellington.' in •the Peninsula. With re-
spect to the sir kness mentioned, he had to say
that he had not often read of armies which, .at
the close of an active campaign, were-not subject-
ed to the visitations of sickness. •lie, however,
was not aware that our troops had suffered more
than those of other nations. •

Mr. BARING,. adverting to the unfavourable
state of the Exchange, said, Bills on this country
bad been at 30 per. cent. discount. 4-le believed
they were now at 22 per cent. discount. He was
informed a partiality had been shown. in. paying
these, which had been highly beneficial to SUM
persons, and ruinous to others.
The CHANCELLOR of the li.xcitEutrett stated the
subject alluded to by the Hon, Gentleman ,to have
occupied a very considerable portion of the atten-
tion of the Treasury. -Circumstances like those
he had mentioned • (respecting the discount) had
occurred, and bad caused a rousideralde debt. Ile
could not at present, state its amount, but. at the
beginning of 1812, it was four Millions of dollars.
With respect to the charge of partiality, he could
only say, its no case which had yet been brought
forward, had.. such' charge appeared to be well
founded. .

Mr. BENNETT asked how long the army was in
arrear ?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER answer-
ed, three or four months.
Mr. BENNETT inquired if any payments had
been made since the 24th of December.
Mr. LONG said he could answer that question.
The last payment had been made on the 24th of
March.
_

Some further conversation took place between
the CHANCELLon of thig ExcneGtualt awl Mr.
BARING, respecting the price paid for corn fur the
use of the armies.

.The Resolutions were severally agreed to.
The CHANCiLLOR of the Exc.:up:um:a moved a
Grant of 100,0001.` to. the Governors of Queen
Ann's Bounty, for the benefit of the Poor clergy.
Mr. BAILING objected to the motion. He knew
of no country in which so numb of the produce of
the land' was given for the support. of the Clergy
as in this. The question was, whether it was
properly distributed? lie apprehended it was
not. He disapproved of thesei annual grants,
which were. intended to be continued till they
amounted to 1,000000/. The Clergy, with this,
were then to be made Stock-holders, and draw
an additional revenue from the funds of the
country.
After a few words from the Cu4NcELLon of the
EXCIIECIVER, Mr. WESTERN, Mr. W. Saurit,Mr.
P. tAREV‘'', and Mr. BABINGTON, the House di-
- , ,

For the Grant 94
Against it
Majotity —74
On re-entering 'the Gallery, we' found Mr.
WitAirroti moving the miscellaneous grants.—
These, from the inaudible tone in Which they
were moved and read, we were unable to collect.
They- were nearly all.agreed to without any. dis-
cussion. _ _

'I lie Rouse resumed, and the Report of tl►e
Committee Was ordered to he received to-mokrow.

- .
Mr. BANnes brought in a Bill for securing the
Freedom of Election in tie Borough of Helstou.
Read a firt,. and -ordered to be read a second time
on Friday, and to be printed.
,Cuitscput.ota of the Excnitauta moved
the second reading of the Stipendiary Carntes
Bill.
Mr. H. PaamELL wished it ' to he. postponed,
that the House might go into a Coiumittee on
the Corn Laws.
Tice CiIANCELTIOR of the Excu Eautx thought
it: be complied with the request of the Honour-
able Baronet,' it would be- too late to go into. that
subject.
A short conversation took place, in which Mr.
ItOSE, Mr. lIAIMAISt, Mr. WET/IEIIAL', Mr.
Dfoloqrsori, antl.Mr. ,T.-SMITU participated. A!-
ter which, at' the. 'suggestion of Lord CASTLE..
ItrAOtt, it-was agreed to let the -Bill pass its se—
cond reading without opposition, with au mkt:-

.3tanding that the debate Oicitil.4 be talttii on the
question 10%' the Speaker's Waving the Chuir to
go into the Committee. The Bill was then rend
a Jecond thue, and ordered to be ennimitted oia
Thursday ne:.t.
Sir 11. PARNOLL then movtd tlit Order of the
Day for the House going into a COmmittee on the
Resolutions relative to the Cbrn LawA.

Mr. ROSE objected to the Speaker's leaving the
Chair. Ile could not consent to the House
ing into a Committee on this important' subject at
so late an hour.

Sir IL PAttxto..t. Could tee no objection to ibd
'tome now going into it Committee. He would
not press the Order of the Day now; were. it nut
that the Resolution about to be submitted to the
Committee lipid gtreatly been so fully discussed on
a former night , that lie did nut.coneeive. much could
remain to be said upon it and the attraneed pe-
riod of the Session matte him anxious that no
time should be lost in forwarding this mint im-
portant measure..

• Air. Rosi again repeated his. objections to
going into a Committee at so late an lionr, and in
Co thin it House, and (kelared his determination,
it the Honourable Baronet persisted in pressing
the Order of the. Day, to take the sense of the
House upon it.
•A conversation then ensued between,Sit H. Par-
nell, Mr. Barlfam, Mr. Rose, :Lord Ossidstone,
&c. ►vhen • •

Lord CkSTLEREAGII suggested Ao the Hon. Ba-
ronet (Sir 11. Parnell) .the -propriety of consent..
ing to. postpone the Committee for one night.
Several Gentleuren, many of whom might be fa-
vourable to the Hon. Baronet's proposition, had
guinea the House, supposing the discussion would
taut come on. And if the sense of the House were
now taken, the result might not be so favourable
to the Resolution as it would be at, any other
time.

air U. PARNELL then agreed to postpone going
into a'Cointintree till to-morrow (this day), but
declared his determination of not again postpon-!
ing it.

The Irish Spirits Duty Bill, and the Pot A3ll
Bill, s-cre read a third time and passed.
Lord Newark of as, on the motion of the Chan-
celliii• Of the Exchequer, added to the Committee
appointed to inquire into the circumstances of
the committal of Thounts Croggan to Newgatc.
The other Orders of the Day were disposetl of,
and the House adjourned at lIALI, PAST' 6:g13.