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ineashre, opposed it, Rini inoced "wail
.
I,o:l,intnit, that the Bill be read a seeOnd'tiine
tai.; ;•iy six months-.
Earl Gary-Hied Lord PRENVILLE_ spoke iti fa_

of time, ,as it may be too late id ttte session fa •
begin .the investigation on the part of that HouSe,
'When the Residittions should regularly .he sent tip
by the other House. In this view they were emit.,
municated at nearly .the same time ; not for the
purpose of deciding upon them, but with a view
of examining evidence upon points materially
connected with them, and the better preparing
their Lordships fur the considesation of the ge-
neral subject.
The Marquis of NVELLESLEY then rose to bring
forward a Petition, which it was his wish should,
as the others, be referred to the. Select Com-
mittee. It related 'to the subject 'of vessels built
in Asia, respecting which such a general alarm
seemed to prevail in this country. The wish of
the Petitioners was, that they should be placed in
the situation in which they had hitherto , been,
or that they bould understand distinctly, now,
what was meant to be done respecting them.—
After a few farther observations on the import,.
ante of this description of vessels, his Lordship
presented the Petition, which seemed to be from
certain Merchants of the Port of London, for
themselves, and in behalf of others connected with
them in India, owners of ships built in that coun,
try, praying that their interest might be duly at-
teiided to.
The LORD CHANCELLOR observed, that the Pe-
tition could be received only as that of those Who
signed it, and the ducument as such, was re-
ceived and referred to their Lordships'. Select
Committee.
Lord. GRENVILLE .addresied.tlfe House at some
length upon the subject. Ile agreed with his
Noble Friend in his sentiments respecting the
subject of the Petition just presented, as well as
in what he had thrown out in .referenn to the re-
solutions upon which the system proposed by Mi-
nisters was to be founded. The general afliniS,
sion as to the Import and Export Trade to India,
.was so limited by what it. was proposed to retain,
that the greatest hazard was run of the result be-
ing highly injurious to the commercial interests of
those, whom the new system professed to benefit.
He had uniformly been of opinion, that the trade
to India should be thrown more and more open to
the commercial capital and enterprise of this coun-
try, and with respect to the more immediate sub-
ject of the Petition presented by his Noble Friend,
he thought the proposers Of the plan should con
sider they were legislating for the geueral benefit
of agreat, mighty, and imited'Empire..
The Marquis of WELLESLEY then presented two
or three Petitions, which being shortly read;
seemed to bp frow the Packers and certain, other
deScriptioni of Traders employed by the Las,
India Coiripany.. These were, as' the former,
ordered to be referred to the Select Committee.
ritLioNETIS' OF WAR.

your of
The' Loan CIIANCELLOR and Lord Ti LLEINTRO-
ROUGH StrollthrollpoSed
.
Lord lior.a.,,ND- spoke in_ reply. After which
the-Mouse divickti upon the- Amendment.

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Majority against the Bill
Adjourned. till Monday.

IMUSE OF CONFNIONS,
FRIDAY, APRIL 2.

The Report of Thi*Ximunittee . on the Cardigan
Election Petition ivas brought up. It declined the
Sitting Minnber (John Ward,).-
,to be duly elected ;
but stated the petition to be ne:ther frivolous nor
vexatious.
On the motion. of Mr. Rosa, Returns of the
Convictions at the Old Bailey, from Dec. 1811, to
Feb. 18_13; distinguishing the name and:offence of
each person, were ordzred to be laid before the
House.

The Marquis of LANSpOWN, in:consequence,
more itumediately, of sorry:, applications., which
he said had been made to him, rose to call the
attention of their Lordships.to this subject. What
be wished .to be informed from authotity was,
Whether the propoSition made by the French Go-
vernment wasssueVas to be deemed inadmissible,
or whether, if such were judged adiffissible on the
part of this country, any proposition' was, fonnded
upon it ? And he had particnlarly to ref:ir to.?
report that seemed generally to prevail, that the
ground of rejecting the proposition was—: pre
sent circumstances of Etwore. This he ttt
be informed of ; dr whether the proposition, w:ts
rejected upon ocher grounds ?
The Furl orLivvarooe felt with the Noble
Marquis, that the question .was one which eqeally
involved
,considerations• of humanity tied justice ;
and he felt himself called upon to declare, that !Its
Moiesty's Go t-ernment then and ever, 'were ready
to ner-ociate with that of France for an exchange
of prisoners Upoll fair and equitable terms. It was
tindoubtedly enfortunate that all the elforts made
upon the part of the former, for that object, failed
of success.. Upon the last occasion, when an at-
tempt was Made, .his Majesty's Government ex-
pressedllieir candid readiness to enter into the
negociation upon those grounds and principles
qpon which they proceeded on fotmer occasions
of the kind, when the failltre took place in conse-
quence of the propositions made by the French
Government being such as, could not, consistent-
ly with the honour or the imerests of thecountry,
be acceded to. He had no difilenity in stating, that
a:disposition bad been made to renew the negoci-
ation, and areitaimation of that nature was made:
on this, it
,was-dittinctly declared that his Majcs-
ty's Government were disposed to negociate upon
the principle on which the last neg-ociatinn was
eonditcted,and he was sorry to say, the proposal
was received on the part of the enemy in such a tvey
as to leave little hope of- :a successful issue taking
place. And be must say that the Noble Martinis
did,his Majesty's Government no more than strict
justice when be deelined 'Creditiog the report of
the negociation being discontinued an acemint.of
the actual, eiretints-13.11C0S of Europe. Nothing
,whatever nit the oeensiion turned on that ground,
and he' agaiirrepeated, the British
.Government
were cordially disposed at any time to renew the
negociation in question upon fair and equitable
terms ;- and to come to any. conclusion upon the
point at all consistent with the honour and the itr-
terests Of the conntry.
Some further conversation on this -topic took
place, in whicth Lords Grenville Grey, and Rol-
land Matte smite observatious, and the Noble Earl
(Liverpool) spoke in explanation ; but nothing
materially different transpired from what he bad.
advanced in the, first instance. He reeated, that
the British Government had expressed their per-
fect readiness to negociate upon the flamer terms
or those of the last preceding negociation ; but
they were unwilling to entertain any proposition
that would operate as an injurious precedent with
respectlo the established principles upon which
such negotiations were conducted, or would
Sentially militate against the honour or interests of
the country.
On the motion of the Earl of HaseOwaY,. and
after a few words front his Lordship on the oeca-
sion—the consideration of -the Report of the
Stipendiary Curates' Bill, was adjourned till
Monday.

PETITIONS FOR PEACE: ,
Lord Le.visotr GOWER presented a Petition from
the Master Manufacturers and others connected
with the Stelfordshire Potteries, in favour of
Peace.- The present Petitioners, though among
thoSe Wiwi) had snffereal most from the war, :had
.not been seduced by the 'example of others,:ibto
any acts of violence. he concurred with the
Petitioners in anxiously desiring
.the. restoration of
pesce, he wished. to state, that he did not agree
with them that it would be expedient for that
House to take the subject into consideration.—
He should move that it be brought up. An Hon.
Gentleman had given notice of a motion on the,
subject of peace. When that motion was made,
he bad no doubt this Petition would be taken into
consideration.
The Petition was brought up and read, and or-
dered to lie on the table.
Mr. WHITBReAD held_in his band a Petition,
the object and the language of which was similar
to that which bad just been preseuted.by ,tho
Noble Lord. He move' that it be brought up.
The Petition was then brought, up and read. It
was from certain Inhabitants of . Leeds, and its
neighbourhood, in favour peace: The Honour,
able Gentleman then called the attention of the
House to the very moderate and proper language
in which the prayer of these us well as that of the
last petitioners was expressed. He .begged also
to call the attention of the House to the general
good conduct of these petitioners, under all the
privations to which they had been exposed under
all these sufferings, ftotn^ this dismally long pro-
tracted war. The Noble 1....01d (Lord L. Gower)
had.spoken of the notice whieh he (Air. Whit-
bread) had given, and which he bad afterwards
deferred till after the recess, -without naming a
day, but saying., he might yet feel it his duty to
do so before tlte end of the Sessions, He could
not yet name the period when be would make that
motion. Ile was aware that if ever there was a
period when greater difficulties would be opposed
to tbe,attainment of an honourable. peace than at
any other, it was that at which their table should
be covered With petitions on this subject, and
therefore he had always wished to guard against
the House being' placed in this situation, by
taking it up before it came to this, that the
Executiq Government might not be cramped in
its negotiations by such a circumstance: ,At on
early period of the Sessioo, he bad taken an
opportunity of
_expressing his sentiments on the
subject of peace. in an amendment which he
had thotight it his duty to move to the. address's.
He had given notice of a motion, but the ,fortu-
nate events which had-taken place on the Contis
'tient of L'ureue, fortunate if they Were turned to
a good account, which brought news better and
better from clay to day, while it increased our
hopes, bad added, by new' conrsectiuos, to the
difficulties' in the way of an immediate return to
,peace. These difficulties:were, it was true, of a
pleasing nature, but difficulties they. were ; and
feeling this, heihati thought it right- to leave the
executive • unfettered in their operations by any
Parlitimentmy resolution. This he should still do
till he, sail; reason to despair of the cause ; to
doubt of their keeping peace in view us their ob-
ject, or till it appeared, haying such object in
view,' they wanted sufficient energy to accomplish
it. If he saw entertained by I%linisters any of
those wild chimerical projects, which- at various
periods had been entertained by the English Gos
veroment in the course of the present' contest, if
be saw tiny countenance given to that Prochuna-
tarn which had been pat fortb- as issued by- Louis
XVIII. or if he saw any plan entertained for
changing the Government of France, then he
should feel it bis•duty to bring the subject under
the ennsideratioo of the House ; then he shotild
wish Petitions to be presented from all parts of/
the country, anti _think every possible exertion
ought to be made to arrest the career of an Ad-
ministration, whose intentions were, bent on a
project so desperate and.eh&terical. On the pre-
sent occasion, he 'should be glad to hear from the
Noble Lord opposite (Lord Castlereagh), a snore
distinct disavowal of that proclamation to. which
11e had already alluded, than he had given on a
former night. •• He should be glad for him to
avow, notouly the proclamation, but also a par
.ticipation in the views of it. 'On this subject it
was for the Noble Lord tube silent or not,. as be
thought proper: If he were silent, his silence he
(Mr, Whitbread) should regard as extremely omi-
nous. His disavowal, of all 'participation in it
would he most satisfactory, and might tend is
effect that which was the prayer of the petitiobs
:before:the House.
Lord es`lereettesou said, whenever the lion.
•Qeuileinan thought proper to bring forward milt
motion, the object of. which .would he to impeach
the past conduct of Ministers, dr to submit to the
-House r.oy resolutions for the re; ukttion of their
conduct prospectively, It is null then he WI ditty
to explain the principles on whiclethey had acted.
snopurrEns RILL. With respect to the last topic touched upon by
Lord nom.awn, pursuant to his lintiee; Ala the HOU. Getitleill4ll,be had :already stated,P that
were no peartv whatever to the roclis
aftera spe some ' _ eeh of se length moved the
motion which had been mentioned. '-hey had,
reading of thia;oll,, however, felt that theta was nothing in the tone of
Lord Viieouotwo
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