The Sun.
London, England, 1809-05-25 00:00:00

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rely 'vkth,contidettee-; those-Oilib Ikere trroiFwalit:
ed--,men, of experieneertm it could not be expedeil
that such 'men coultrsee themselei itipplanted withi
out emotion by men inferior to theni in eveiy es-
sential requisite, slid onty recommended by birth or
Connor.' , •

Sir C. BURRELL could not agree with the Noble
Lord (Lord Castlereagh), that the prerogative of the
Crown having' promoted one who was not consider-
ed worthy of such .a :promotion was not to be called _
in question. He thought the aaion unjust, and
should therefore vote for the motion.
The CHANCRLLOR of the EXCITEQUER said, the
right of the House to interfere in particular instances,
where appointments had been made by the Crown,
was admitted by his- Noble Friend, the question,
therefore, was, wltether or not this teas a case which
required their interference. With respea to Gen. '
Graham, though he was far from wishing to lower
that meritorious (dicer in their 'estimation, yet, it
should be remembered his services had been wholly
voluntary. His Hon. Friend' had not put' that offi-
cer on a footing with Lord Bnrghersh ; he' had only
instanced the promotion of Gen. Graham to illustrate
the position he was maintaining; that the preroga-
titre of the Crown could promote a deserving officer,
whatever might be the standing &der of the army.
'The question then rested on the promise given.
Now, though the son of a Cabinet Minister ought
certainly not lobe favoured on that account, yet at
the same time, he did not think he ought to be par,
titularly opposed. from that circumstance; and he
did think, that,: were a promise to the soh of one
of the opposite party on similar grounds broken, it
would be .considered by them as extremely unjust.,
This commission was dated the 25th' of Match r
whatever-might have ltd to its appearing in the Ga-
zette at a stibsequent period, it was evident from
that circumstance that he had been six yeat's in the
service. If the commission had been ante-dated
(which there was no reooll to believe) it was
till-
possible to think it could have been done with thwei'
views that it-tnight nciw appear calculated to answer,
on a review of all the circumstances ; as that period':
had elapsed a mouth or two beiore
,1 he promise was
Teriorined, it only riemained for the House to decide
whether or nOtthoso papers should he produced, the
,the prociuttion of Which could answer Ito one pur-
'pose.

After a few observations from Sir C. 13u EWELL, in
explanation, a division took plasc.e;. when the num-
bet s. 'were—

For-the motion
Agdiust it
Atijotity

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NEGPCIAI lON WITII AMERICA.

When strangers were readmitted, we found Lord
lIENItY PETTY on his legs,,for.the purpose of asking
the Secretary of State for Foreign Atfaits, whether
hu expeCted to receive bis Majesty's commands to
make any communication to the House respecting
the arrangements which, according to the accounts
be ltsci seen in the piablic papers, had taken place be-
tween this Country and America.
Mr. CketNtito.said thatheowai glad that the No-
ble Lord had put thi? question to him, because it
:afforded, him an opportunity of giving some ex-
b/planatkin to the House upon this most important
subjeCt. He begged to state, that in the present
state'of our transaaions with Ann he did not-
exped to receive his Majesty's commands to make
any communication to the House, and for this rea-
- sOn, that the negotiations between tile two countries
were .still depending... Something-rem*d to be,
done, and certainly something to be tind6he, The
aCcountS,and the papers to which the Noble Lord
had alluded, certainly were authentic, taut the agree--
ment which had been eott3red into was not made in
conformity ttith the instrudions.Which.be, in obe-
dience to his .Majesty's commands, bad sent out to
America, and it was such a one sis he. could not ap-

'6?ove But at the rime titue, aktliis agreement,
into ihough entered -net iwconformity,- but in con-
tradition to the instrulliofls sent out, could hat be
approved of or carried into et fed . by his MajestY'as
a permanent measure, yet ;as it was probable,that
upon the faith of this agreement, supposed to bet
properly cotnrat...ted,many persons in -America- might
be indUced to enter into commercial speculations, he
thought that; whatever the ultimate result Of the tie-
gociation might be, innocent persons ought not to
and therefore :his Majesty, had been,advised
to issue an Order in Council, to Prevent any deffil
ment to Otoss persons in America who might
upon this agrecluent, before information could teach
America of the determination of the British-Govern-
Meta upon the suhied.