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WEDNESDAY, JUNE 12; 18211

PARLIAMENT,

HOUSE OF •LORDS, TuEsDat, JUNE 11.

The LORD CIIANcELLon presented a Petition
from Sudbury against the Catholic Peers' Bill.—
Laid an the table. •

Lord CARRINGTON presented a Petition from
Chipping Wycombe, in the County of Bucking-
ham, praying for the revision of the Criminal
Code.—Laid on the table.

- NEW BILLS.
Mr. BROODEN -and others brolight up‘from the Commons
the Annuities Memorial Bill, the Colonial Trade Bill, and the
American Trade Bill, which were read a 6rststime.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY, in the absence of his Noble
Friend (the. Earl of Liverpool), gave notice. that it was the in-
tention of that Noble Earl to move the second reading of the
Colonial and American Trade Bills-on Monday next. His
Lordship then postponed the second reading of the Bills con-
nected with the Navigation Laws to that day. -
Sir-G. lifia. and others brought up a Message from the
Cominons, requesting that the Marquis of DOWNSIIIICE be
allowed to.attend their Committee now sitting on the trade of
Ireland.

The LORD CHANCELLOR replied that their Lordships
would send •an answer by Messengers of their own.
The queition was then put that the Marquis of DowssiiißT.
be allowed to attend, and leave was granted..
Viscount SIDMOUTH presented a Petition from the Bo-
,rough of Devizes against the Catholic' Peers. Bill.—Laid on the
table.—Adjourned.

. HOUSE OF COMMONS:
M ISCE LLANEOUS.
Mr. WESTERN presented a petition from the Yeomen and
Farmers of Romford against the Act of 1819, for resuming
Cash Paymeets ; and another to the same effect froSm Hoch-
ford.—Ordered to lie on the table, and be printed.
Mr. WILLIAMS (of Lincoln) presented a petition from
several Inhabitants of that City, complaining of the injury
done to their trade by hawkers and pedlars.—Ordered to lie on
the table.

Lord STANLEY presented a Petition from Eccles, in Lan-
cashire, against the Licensing Bill.—Ordered to lie on the
table.

Mr. CREEVE V postponed to the 27th instant, his motion
respecting the Pension Act. He should, on that occasion, sub-
mit to the House a string of Resolutions, one of which would
refer to the pension granted to Lord Sidmouth. . •
Sir J. NEWPORT moved for an Account of all Sums of
Money received by public Officers in Ireland for Fees, on oc-
casion of the death of his late, and the accession of his present
Majesty.—Ordered.
Mr. HUME moved for .a Retuin of the Lands and Here-
ditaments of his Majesty, in right of the Crown of Ireland,
which have been sold under Acts of the Irish Parliament, au-
thorising their sale ; and of the appropriation of the sums re-
ceived from those sales. •

Sir GEORGE HILL said a 'few words; after which the
motion was agreed to.
Mr. HUME then moved fota return of the present income
of the lands and hereditaments not sold.

Sir G. HILL thought the motion was-too general, and exten-
sive. • He had no objection to any particular return for any ob-
ject in the contemplation of the. Hon. Member.
Sir J. NEWPORT thought the return moved for would-be
unnecessarily voluminous.
Mr. HUME then withdrew his notice, and said he would
consult with the Right Honourable Gentleman as to the best
mode nrobtaining.the information necessary for his particular
purpose. • . ,
•
Sir J. NEWPORT-bought up the .Second 'Report of the
Committee on Grand Jury Presentments; and said he. should
move for leave to bring.in a Bill-on the subjeCt to-morrow.- The
Report was read, and ordered to be printed. '
'SALT TAX. ' • •

Sir %V. LEMON presented a Petition from several persons
engaged in the Fish-curing Trade of Cornwall, complaining of
the Tax upon Salt. . They considered that the proposed mo-
dification of the present duty would operate as a new tax. He
thought nothing but the total abandonment of the tax would
be productive of any benefit.
Mr. RUM BOLD. supported• the Petition.
Sir R. FERGUSON said, that the statement of the Peti-
tioners applied in• every respect to the Fisheries of Scotland.
They would be-ruined if the present Tax were persisted in.
Mr. D. GILBERT also spoke in favour of the .Petition.—
He fully agreed that- the distress occasioned by the tax was
-not of a local nature. He acknowledged the good which had
been done by his Majesty's Ministers in the way of reduction ;
but he thought a partial reservation of the present Tax was im-
politic.and oppressive. lf, however, the Government thought
it necessary to retain the Tax, he would oppose any. motion
for its reduction.--(Hear, hear from the Opposition.)—He had
no objection to repeat the sentiment cheered by the Hon.
Members. He should be happy to find the -Tax repealed ; but
he would not wish to have it repealed at the expense of public
credit.

Mr. TREMAYNE said, he had no dolibt the Chancellor of
the Exchequer was not aware -of the severity with which this
TaX 'pressed .upon the fisheries. One individual engaged in
that branch of trade would have to pay 8,0001. for duties, in
January next. He saw no chance of relief but in the total
'repeal of the tax. e• . .
• Sir 111. W. RIDLEY thought the taking off of a tax would
be as beneficial if proposed by any Member, as it would be if
proposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman. The tax on salt would
have a considerable effect on those engaged in the manufactur-
ing of glass bottles. They would haye to pay 51. a ton for their
alkali, instead of 30s. as hdetolore.

Sir HUSSEY VIVIAN said, he thought a:total repeal of
the tax was most desirable ; but he had no wish to disturb the
general satisfaction which prevailed in the House when the
Right Hon. Gentleman brought the 'subject forward ; and he
had therefore abstained from remarking upon it.
Mr. BRIGHT spoke in favour of the total repeal. He was
satisfied the repeal would not affect the revenue ; and he there-
fore hoped the. Hon. Member (Mr. D. Gilbert), would be in-
duced to vote for.the repeal, even though it should be proposed
from his (Mr. B.'s) side of the House.
Lord A. HAMILTON said, that when the Bill came regu-
larly before the House, he should be prepared to shew the effect
of the Tax upon Scotland. He understood that that part of
the country was not to be benefitted by the repeal, though it
would in its consequences be injurious to Scotland. He looked
at the question as one affecting the general welfare of the cm-
pire.—(Hear, hear !)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, it was
his, intention to propose• a clause exempting Scotch salt from
the duty. As the Tax would fall heavily upon Ireland, he pur-
posed also proposing a measure for the relief of that part of the
kingdom. Upon the question respecting the Fisheries, he con-
fessed he had not yet been able to make up his mind. It was
an important subject; and he was not yet prepared to give up
so considerable a portion of the revenue as that arising from salt
consumed in the fisheries. He thought, however, that these
points of detail should be reserved until the question came be-
fore the House in a regular shape..
Mr. CALCRAFT agreed that the discussion should not be
anticipated; hut it was an advantage for the Right lion. Gen-
tleman to hear the sentiments of those whose local situations
gave them opportunities of judging of the effect of the Tax. It
was evident that the more the Right Hon. Gentleman proceed-
ed in his measure, retaining a part of the Duties, the more he
was surrounded by difficulty.. The retention of the Tax was
in fact putting a new Tax upon another class of people. It
would be better to give up the paltry remnant of the Tax ; and
he trusted the Right Hon. Gentleman would gain himself the
credit of doing so before the end of the Session.. He (Mr. C.)
understood from the Salt Shippers of Liverpool, that it would
be impossible for them to collect their debts from the retail.
dealers if the Tax were retained.

Mr. HUME said the bleachers, who were much interested
in this tax, would not be able to carry on their trade, if the
tax were continued in the shape proposed by the ,Itight.Hon.
Gentleman.

Mr. WODEHOUSE said that the present tax was in all re-
spects a new tax. He implored the Right Hon. Gentleman to
remit the tax altogether, and he might be assured that his doing
so would be.considered the most acceptable boon he could offer
to-the people... •t' - •
• Sir JOHN NEWPORT said the remnant of the tax would
operate as an additional burden upon Ireland.
Mr. CARTWRIGHT suggested that the repeal of the

Leather Tax should be suspended for the present, ankl that the.
whole of the Salt Tax shoullbe taken off. •
• Mr. C. ITUTCHINSON assured the Right Hon. Gentleman
he had received communications from. Ireland expressing. the
4reatest alarm at the tax as it was now 'proposed to retain it.—
He trusted the Right Hon. Gentleman would give it up.
Sir ISAAC COFFIN said,• the fishermen would by this-
tax be deprived of the means of living altogether. He hoped
the Right Hon. Gentleman would not forget that'the fisheries
were the nurseries for- British seamen, who had so often de
served and received the thanks of the country.
Mr. CURWEN, trusted the Right Hon. Gentleman would
not persevere and force the House to compel him to give up the

Mr. W. SMITH said4hat the fisheries had lono been a
losing trade inconsequence of the heavy pressure of this tax.—
The proposed drawback on exportation would be of no assist-
.ance to them, for they could not defray the expence attending
the tax as it affected home consumption.
Mr. T. WILSON was not one of those who thought the.
Salt. Tax should be wholly taken off, unless measures were
suggested for making up • the deficiency in the revenue which
such a measure would occasion.
Mr. LESTER supported the prayer of the Petition.
Mr: V.. • FITZGMIALD described the injurious conse-
quences which retaining the proposed amount of duty would
haVe on the trade of Ireland, which was already: so distressed
that it could hardly sustain the liurdens already imposed on it.
He would be the last:man to start unnecessary objections to the
plans of his Right Hon.. Friend, but in the present case he felt
that he should fail 'in his duty if he were not to state that to
the Chancellor of the Exchequer which he knew must speedily
be pressed on-his attention from other quarters.
Sir R. FERGUSON shewed that the duty proposed to at-
tach to the Fisheries, though it would be felt severely by the
parties, would contribute but a very small sum to the re-
venue. • .

The petition was then read and ordered.to be printed. • •
On the motion .of Mr. BENNET, the recommittal of the
Alehouses .Licences Bill was postponed till to-morrow.
Mr. MANNING presented a petition from Bridewell Hos-
pital, against the Prisons Consolidation Bill. Ordered to lie on
the table.

Mr. RUMBOLD presented a petition from the Catchers and.
Curers of Herrings or. Great Yarmouth, in the county of Nor-
folk, praying for the total repeal of the Salt duty. Ordered to
lie on the tabl&. • • '.

Ir. HLTME presented a petition on the same subject, from
certain Bleachers of Yarn, in.the town and neighbourhood of
Arboath.

Mr. PHILLIPS animadverted on the conduct of the Chap-
cellor of the Exchequer. He was so accustomed to imposie
burdens on the people, that he could not do a gracious thing to-
wards the people without coupling it with something ungra-
cious. This he instanced in the course pursued by the Right
Hon. Gentleman, when he introduced. the Bill respecting
Spoiled Stamps, which he made the vehicle for imposing a heavy
.tax on the transfer of Agricultural property, and this was the
way in which he had-thought it.ri,?;ht to shew his regard for the
Agricultural, interest.—The petition was ordered to lie on the
table.

Sir A. DON presented a Petition from the Skinners, Tan-
ners,.Curriers, and others concerned, in the Leather Trade, in
the county of Kelso, praying the Repeal. of the Leather Tax.—
Ordered to lie on the table.