The Sun.
London, England, 1836-04-15 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY, APRIL 15, 1836.

ter of fact, we owe it to our readers to show by incon-
trovertible evidence that we have not, either from in-
caution or design, mis-stated a public matter. The de-
bate of Wednesday night was distinguished by one
remarkable feature—namely, that on a popular ques-
tion more calmness and self-restraint were evinced in
the speeches of the popular advocates than in those of
the Ministerial speakers. The restlessness of apostacy,
and the recklessness of power, disturbed the temper
and inflamed the minds of the men who were plead-
ing against the recorded opinions of their party. In the
way of argument it is not likely that much can be ex-
tracted from speeches so delivered. But, as one or two
points elicited a cheer from those who came to decide
without debating, it may be proper to notice them. As
our remarks, however, will occupy more space than we
can find in this day's paper, we defer the insertion of
them till to-morrow.—Times.

Let it not be supposed that because the present
House of Commons has declared itself in favour of
corporal punishments in the army, that the question is
set at rest; on the contrary, the discussion-and division
on Major Faucourt's motion have roused the, feelings
of the country to even a greater degreee
,of excitement
than hitherto existed, nor is it possible to allay those
feelings but by the utter abolition of 'the savage sys-
tem. The Ministry, in opposing the motion, has, we
are sorry to observe, lost a large share of the confi-
dence which the country hitherto so implicitly reposed
in it, and this is the more to be regretted, because on
the eve, as we probably are, of a general election, some
Tories may take advantage of the strong national feel-
ing which exists in reference to this question, and by
pledging themselves to vote for the abolition of flog-
ging, may be preferred to soi-disant Liberals who have
arranged themselves in favour of its • continuance.
The discussion was again renewed last night in the
House of Commons, on the bringing up of' the Re-
port of the Mutiny Bill : but there was nothing origi-
nal in argument urged on either side. The opponents
of flogging, however, amongst whom we may men-
tion Messrs. O'Connell, Duncombe, &c., poured forth
a just, indignant, impassioned, and irresistible tide of
eloquence against this worse than brutal mode of
punishment. There was nothing original in argument
put forth on either side in the renewed debate ; but
Mr. T. Duncombe stated a fact in reference to' the
manner in which the infliction is occasionally aggra-
vated, which is not generally known to the public.
This is the prolonging the time occupied in the pu-
nishment by allowing a minute or half a minute to
elapse between every stroke of the lash, so that in
this manner fifty lashes might be attended with as
much torture as 500 applied in a shorter space of
time. This, it is probable, was contemplated by those
members who, as a matter of extraordinary liberality,
were willing to limit the number of lashes 'to 200,
which would leave the severity of the punishment
solely at the discretion of the commanding officer, to
whose discretion the privilege of fixing the time is
entrusted. But why dwell on the exposure of bar-
barities, which need but be known to arouse the most
determined opposition of every man having a particle
of justice, humanity, or self-respect in his composi-
tion ? We appeal from the House of Commons to
society—to the British community ; from the repre-
sentatives of the people to the people themselves.
The proposition of Mr. Lennard that flogging in the
British army be abolished, except in time of war, was
rejected by a majority of 73—the numbers being, for
the resolution 62, against it 135.—Morn. Advertiser.

We have devoted a considerable space of our paper
of this day to a report of the proceedings at the anni-
versary festival of the Conservative Association of the
city of London, which took place yesterday in Covent-
Garden Theatre. And never, we will venture to say,
was a public meeting held in this metropolis which
better deserved an ample record than that to which Re
now triumphantly refer. One spirit evidently pervaded
this magnificent and powerful assembly—the spirit of
reverence and affection for the Church, the Throne,
and the Constitution of Great Britain—of reverence and
affection which, if not unclouded by anxiety, is unde-
based by timidity or alarm. The determination to do
what conscience and honour demand, to be just and
fear not, to act as if the institutions which are held to
he worthy of veneration and attachment must also be
worthy of a vigorous and manly defence against the
dangers which assail them, was never inculcated
more forcibly than at the meeting of yesterday, nor
ever, we rejoice to say, inculcated upon an audience bet-
ter prepared for its reception. That audience consisted
of upwards of a thousand of the citizens of London,
comprehending a vast majority of those who in their
various spheres of active commercial life are most dis-
tinguished for respectability, integrity, and intelligence.
It was the city of London as it really is, and not as it
is represented by the impostors and empirics who, in
Common Councils and in Common Halls, dishonour
and degrade the commercial metropolis of England, by
fraudulently pretending to speak in its name. The
voice sent forth from this majestic assembly, as it wa
well and properly termed by one of the eloquen t
speakers who addressed it, is a voice that ought to
resound from the remotest corner of the land, which
ought to pervade our Palaces, our Parliaments, our
Temples, and our Courts, which ought to penetrate
even to the hearth of the poorest cottage'that affords its
humble shelter to one honest and loyal Englishman.
It is a voice which proclaims, in accents loud and clear,
that for the Conservatives of Great Britain and Ireland
there is no cause of dismay—that in their hands the ark
of the Constitution may be protected from every
danger—and that to confound and disperse the
enemies who menace it on all sides, nothing more is
required than that the Conservative body should dis-
play a degree of zeal, activity, and resolution pro-
portioned to its inherent and abiding power. To ad-
vert in detail to the proceedings of this important day
is a gratification in which time and space will not per-
mit us to indulge. But we cannot refrain from direct-
ing special attention to the terms in which the toast
of " The Duke of Wellington and the House of
Lords" was given by the able and eloquent chairman,
and to the manner in which it was received by an as-
sembly consisting, we emphatically repeat, of a thou-
sand of the first merchants, bankers, and traders of
the city of London. And yet the independence of
the House of Lords is threatened if that noble assem-
bly shall venture to exercise freely the powers which
the Constitution has entrusted to it, and fail in obe-
dicnt submission to the wisdom and the will of
Messrs. Grote, Pattison, Crawford, and Wood, and of
the persons who elected them by an inconsiderable
majority. Talk of representation truly. Who, we
beg to ask, really represents the thousand mer-
chants, bankers, and principal traders of the city of
London, that were yesterday assembled in Covent-
garden Theatre ? Who truly represents the four or
five thousand respectable citizens of London that
voted at the general election for Messrs. Lyall, Ward,
and Wilson ? It cannot be pretended that either of
these classes is represented at all in the Legislative
Councils of their country, unless it be by the House
of Lords. The House of Lords, then, is not an iso-
lated nor is it an irresponsible body. How warm and
lively a sympathy subsists at this moment between the
House of Lords and the best part—we say fearlessly
the best, and honestest, and wisest, as well as the
most influential and powerful part—of the people of
this country, let the acclamations with which the toast
in honour of that august assembly was received by the
splendid meeting of yesterday proclaim to the world.
And how stupid and senseless must those men be, how
utterly ignorant and incapable of all the feelings which
lay at the very root of whatever is free, and
generous, and noble in human institutions, who
believe that a body of Nobles thus linked in the
strong bonds of sympathy, with the most worthy of
their fellow-countrymen, can be free from real, sub-
stantial) conscious, and overruling responsibility ?
Would it, in the opinion of these ignorant politicians,
of these perverse and malignant judges of human
nature, have been nothing to the House of Lords,
that, instead of the fervent and enthusiastic acclama-
tions which burst forth spontaneously from every part
of the assembly of yesterday, on the mention of that
assembly, a dreary and chilling silence had prevailed ?
It would seem to be essential to the idea of irrespon-
sibility that men should possess nothing which they
highly value, and of which other men have the power
to deprive them. But is there any doubt that the
House of Lords enjoys the confidence and affec-
tion, or that it may rely in any corlceilmble emer-

gency, other than that of a failure in its duty to
the State, upon the firm, resolute, and unbending
support; of the most intelligent, wealthy, and power-
ful portion of the British• people ? Is there any
doubt either that the House of Lords knows
how to value the esteem and affection of their
countrymen, and the security and the power which
those feelings can confer ? Away, then, with the non-
sense of the House of Lords hem°.° irresponsible. It
is to the full as much responsible as the House of
Commons. Its Members have to answer for their
public conduct under a much severer penalty than the
Members of the House of Cemmous, and to answer
to a much higher and better-instructed class of judges.
From this responsibility the House of Lords will not
shrink. It will discharge its duty to the State with
moderation, calmness, and dignity, in the full and free
exercise of all the powers with which the Constitution
has entrusted it, for the benefit of the community ;
and it will thus insure the perpetuity of these feelings
of veneration and attachment on the part of the sober
and reflecting, the respectable and loyal people of
England, which the City Conservative Association so
enthusiastically proclaimed.—Morn. Post of yesterday.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

TATTERSALL'S.

- - -
TWO THOUSAND GUINEAS STAKES, T.P. (TUESDAY NEXT.)
11 to 10 on Ld Jersey's Bro. to Nell Gwynne-6 to 5 taken
3 to 1 agst Lord Lichfield's Elis—offered
6 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Muezzin—taken
8 to 1 agst Duke of Grafton's Calmuck—offered
10 to 1 agst Mr. Robinson's Whaley—offered
THE PORTLAND HANDICAP, P.P. (WEDNESDAY NEXT.)
4 to:1 agst Mr. Etwall's Revenge—taken
9 to 2 agst Mr. Cooke's Sheet Anchor—offered
11 to 2 agst Mr. Sowerby's Rioter—offered
6 to 1 agst Mr. Mostyn's Birdlime—taken
6 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Hornsca—taken
8 to 1 agst Mr. S. Stanley's Tiber—taken
THE DERBY.
4 to 1 agst Lord Jersey's Bro. to Nell Gwynne—take 9 to 2
7 to 1 agst Mr. Ridsdale's lot—offered
7 to 1 agst Mr. Osbaldeston's Ebberston—taken
9 to 1 agst Mr. E. Peel's The Mummy—offered
16 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Sepoy—taken
16 to 1 agst Mr. Ridsdalc's Bro. to Bamfylde—taken
18 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Muezzin—taken
1,000 to S 0 agst Mr. Ridsdale's Brother to St. Giles—taken

600 to 400, 550 to 400, and 275 to 200 betted on the first six
against the field ; and 6 to 4 on Brother to Nell Gwynn° agst Eb-
berston.

OAKS.
6 to 1 agst Lord Wilton's Grenada—offered
7 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Toga— offered
10 to 1 agst Mr. Walker's Emineh—take 12 to 1
10 to 1 agst Mr. Dawson's Fair Jane-12 to 1 taken
10 to 1 agst Mr. Allen's Promise—offered •
11 to 1 agst Mr. Armitage's Vesper—taken
14 to 1 agst Mr. Houldsworth's Destiny—offered

12 to 1 against Fair Jane, 12 to 1 against'Emlneh, and 13 to 1
against Destiny, taken in one bet twice over; and afterwards 12 to
1 about each in one bet. Fair Jane and Vesper are on the road.

BATH SPRING RACES- WEDNESDAY.

A Match for 100 soya., h. ft. One mile.-Sir L. Glyn's ch. c.
Recruit, by the Colonel, out of Galates, 3 yrs, 9st. 71b., received
forfeit from Captain H. Whalley's b. f. by Sir Peter Lely, out of
Memphis, 2 yrs, 7st.
The Lansdowne Trial Stakes of 15 sovs. each, 10 ft.., for horses
that have never won (matches excepted) ; three yrs old, 754. 51b.;
four, Bst. 101 b. ; five, 2st. llb. ; six, 9st. 51b. ; and aged, 9st.
71b ; mares and geldings allowed 31b. One mile and a quarter.
14 Subs.
Sir L. Glyn's Recruit, 3 yrs
Mr. Houldsworth's Felix, 4 yrs 2
Mr. Sadler's ch. c. Brother to Delight, 3 yrs ...
The following were not placed :-Mr. Codrington na Spring,
3 yrs ; Mr. Peel na. Doctor Slop, 3 yrs ; Mr. J. Day's ch. f. by
Velocipede, out of Zuleika, 4 yrs ; Captain Blathwayte na. Barna-
cles, 3 yrs ; and Mr. Henderson's b. c. by Cardinal Puff, dam Dis-
cord.-Betting-6 to 4 agst Felix, (taken) ; 2to 1 agst Recruit
(taken) ;sto 4 agst any other. Won easy.
The Weston Stakes of 30 sovs. each, h. ft., for two yrs old ; colts,
7st. 101 b. ; fillies, 7st. 61b. ; half-bred horses allowed 51b. ; those
got by untried horses, or out of untried mares, allowed 31b. ; if
both, 51b. The straight half-mile.
Captain Williamson's b. c. by Longwaist
Mr. E. V. Fox's Doncaster
Hon. S. Herbert's Bulbridge
Mr. Hervey's b. c. by Wrangler 4
Betting-2 to 1 agst Doncaster ;2to 1 agst Bulbridge ;sto 2
agst the winner.
The Bath Stakes (Handicap) of 20 sovs. each, h. ft , with 20
added. One mile and a half and a distance. 11 Subs., five of
whom paid only 5 sovs. each.
Sir L. Glyn's Recruit, 3 yrs, 6st. 61b
Mr. Houldsworth's Felix, 4 yrs, 7st. 71b
Mr. Bristow's Sambo, 4 yrs, 7st. 81b
Betting-2 to lon the winner. Wen easy.
The Ladies' Silver Cup value 30 sovs., added to a Sweepstakes of
5 soya. each, for horses not thorough-bred ; four yrs old, 9st. 71b ;
five, lOst. 71b ; six, Ilst. 21b ; aged, Ilst. 71b ; mares and geld-
ings allowed 31b ; horses having won the value of 50/. (matches
excepted) to carry 101 b. extra. Gentlemen riders. Mile and
a half and a distance. 11 Subs.
Mr. Hobson's Challenger, 4 yrs
Mr. Codrington's Ultimus, aged 2
Mr. Knatchbull na. Woodman, 3 yrs 3
Mr. Blathwayte na. b. g. Lofty, aged
The following were not placed :--Sir L. Glyn na. Bilberry, aged;
Mr. Blathwayte ns. Bessy, 4 yrs; and Mr. Barrow ita. br. g.
Counsellor, 5 yrs. Betting-6 to 4on the winner. Won by a neck.
A Sweepstakes of 15 sovs. each, 5 ft., for horses of all denomina-
tions ; thorough-bred horses to carry 101 b. extra ; three yrs,
94t. 71b. ; four, 1 Ist. 31b. ; five, list. 91b. ; six, 12st. 21b. ;
aged 12st. 51b. The last half-mile. Gentlemen riders.
Mr. Hobson's Challenger 4 yrs:
Mr. Houldsworth na. Caliph, 4 yrs
Captain Williamson's Bittern, aged 8