The Sun.
London, England, 1836-06-15 00:00:00

ENGLISH TITHE BILL.

In answer to a question from Mr. BARLOW HOY,
Lord J. RUSSELL hoped that he should be able to pro-
ceed with the Marriages Bill that evening, and with the Eng-
lish Tithe Bill early on Friday evening.
Oa the motion of Mr. BUCKINGHAM a Select-Com-
mittee was appointed to inquire into the causes of the in-
creased number of shipwrecks, with a view to ascertain whe-
ther such improvements inight not be made in the construction..
equipment, and navigation of merchant vessels., hs would
greatly diminish the unusual loss of life and property at sea.
Lord CLENIENTS presented a petition from the county
of Leitrim, praying the Hotlse to reject the amendments in-
troduced by the House of Lords into the Irish Muncipal Bill.
Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN presented similar petitions from
the county of Leitrim; and Mr. WALKER one from Wex.
ford.

Mr. SHAW asked when the Noble Lord (Lord J. Rus-
sell) intended to proceed with the Irish Tithe Bill?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL replied that he, could not then
name a day. He ws ankious to forward the English Tithe
Bill as well as the Registration of Births and Marriages Bill,
all of which had been introduced it,to the House in February.
lie would in the course of a few days state when he would go
on with the Irish Tithe Bill.

MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion of Mr. O'LOGHLEN, the House pro-
ceeded with the further consideration of the Lords' amend-
ments in this Bill.

Several of the amendments having been agreed to,
Mr. SHARMAN CR AWFORD rose to bring forward
his motion for the restoration of the towns to the present Bill,
which were in schedule Cof the original Bill. lie said that,
according to the proposition of the Noble Lord, twelve towns
were to have mayors and town councils. The seven first
towns were in the original Bill in schedule A ; the others were
to be found in schedule B, to which Carrickfergus and Derry
were added. The effect of the Noble Lord's proposition would
be, to exclude four towns with a population of 10,000, and
four others with a population of 9,000. Why they were to be
excluded, while Derry, with only 10,000, and Carrickfer-
gus, with only 8,000, were included, he could not understand,
unless it was on the principle of it concession to the other
House. The proposition lie had to make was, that the towns
which were placed in the old Bill in schedule C, should 1:w
restored to the honourable position of Corporate towns.
The toAns to which he alluded were as follows:—Bandon,
12,617 ; Athlone, 11,362 ; Wexford, 10,673 ; Dundalk,
10,078; Youghal, 9,603; Armagh, 9,189; Carlow, 9,111;
Tralec, 9,562; Ennis, 7,711 ; Cashel, 6,971•; Kinsale, 7,312;
Portarlington, 3,091 ; New Ross, 5,011 ; Enniskillen, 5,270 ;
Colerain, 5,752 ; and Dungannon, 3,515. He objected
to any such compromise as that of abandoning these
towns. The Bill, as it had come from the other House,
was an insult to the people of Ireland ; and a British
Government should refuse to be a party to it. What
was the use of talking about
,• a repeal of the Union, and a
reform of the House of Lords, if they flinched from maintain-
ing the ground which they had resolved to take? For him-
self he never held language of that kind without being in
earnest. It now rested with the representatives of Ireland to
do their duty with firmness, and insist on their rights; it was
in vain for them to make bold professions, if at the moment
when it was necessary for them to act they shrank from doing
so. He was apprehensive, however, that he stood alone in
making this proposition, or at all events that there was little
prospect of its success. He particularly regretted that the
great leader of the Irish people was not present to sup-
port him. He should be sorry to be acting in opposition
to the feelings of that Hon. and Learned Member, but
while he entertained every respect for him, his own honour
would not allow him to compromise his own opinions for the
sake of following the opinions of any individual.—(Hear,
hear.) He did not exactly know how he had better frame his
motion so as to accomplish his object; but he was disposed in
that respect to attend to any suggestion that might be made
to him. If he moved that the towns be included in schedule
A, they would have the 101. franchise ; perhaps they had better
be included in a clause by themselves, giving them the Si.
franchise. The Hon. Member concluded by moving that the
town of Bandon be included in towns which were to have a
mayor and council. _ _

The SPEAKER—Who seconds the motion ?

Mr. Sergeant JACKSON (after a pause) could not sit and
hear it proposed that the town which he had the honour to
represent should be included amongst the towns which were
to have Corporate honours and privileges extended to them
without rising to second the motion.—(Great laughter.) If
there were to be any additional towns included he should cer-
tainly very respectfully put in his claim for the very respect-
able town of Bandon.—(A laugh.) When the Hon. Gen-
tleman opposite declared that he would not compromise his
opinions, he certainly did cheer the Hon. Member, because
whether in this House or out of it, in his humble judgment,
a more honourable man was not to be found.—( Hear, hear.)
He begged to add a word on another subject. The Hon. and
Learned Member dor Kilkenny had on a former occasion re-
ferred to an inscription which he said he had seen on entering
the town of Bandon. Now he had received letters this morn-
ing, stating that there had been neither a gate nor any walls
at the entrance to the town of Bandon within the last cen-
tury. He seconded the present motion.
air E. WILMOT was opposed to the introduction of any
new towns.
Mr. WALTER, after much observation and experience,
entertained a strong conviction that this Bill would do no such
thing as establish peace in Ireland.—(Cries of " Oh !" and
" Order !") Nor did he concur with those who maintained
that the rejection of Corporations in Ireland was the rejection
of the Irish people from those rights which were possessed by
the people of England.—(Cries of " Oh !" and loud cries of
" Order !" from the Opposition benches.) Before any rights
were conferred, those to whom they were imparted ought to
be capable of exercising them for the general benefit. The
Corporations in Ireland had hitherto been made an instrument
of abuse, which one party had enjoyed for the oppression of
the other.—(The Hon. Gentleman here paused for several
seconds, as if endeavouring to collect his thoughts. After a
burst of encouraging cheers from the Opposition benches, he
put his hand into his pocket, and brought out a sheet of paper,
which he perused very deliberately, amidst cries of " Read,
read," and shouts of laughter from the Ministerial benches.
He at last proceeded.) They would by this measure transfer
this instrument of abuse into the hands of another party,
who
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