The Sun.
London, England, 1831-07-30 00:00:00

SELECT VESTRIES.

Mr. HOIIIIOUSE brought in his Bill for the better
regulation of Select Vestries.—lt was read a first time,
and ordered to be read a second time on Monday se'nnight.

THE REFORM BILL.

Lord ALTHORP, in moving that the House go into
the Committee on the Reform Bill, thought it necessary
to say, that as it was proposed the House should not meet
on Monday, and the Government did not conceive it ex-
pedient to allow so long an interval as that between Fri-
day and Tuesday to pass over without making some pro-
gress with the Bill, it was intended to form a House on
Saturday, at twelve o'clock, by Commission, and to con-
tinue the discussion in the Committee on the Bill till six.
Mr. CHARLES WYNN begged the Noble Lord to
consider the effect which this arrangement would produce
on public business. There were sitting at the present
moment four Election Committees, those of Caermarthen,
Coleraine, Dublin, and Grimsby, and if the House met at
the time the Noble Lord proposed, their labours must be
suspended, although the expence to all the parties would
go on as usual. It would seem, from the statement of the

Noble Lord, that even the Reform Bill was to give way
with them before the pleasure of dining with the city of
London.—(Hear, hear.) He did not ree why the elec-
tion petitioners should be put to the expence of the day
thus lost, and recommended the Noble Lord to pass over
Saturday, and allow the business of Monday to go on as
usual.—( Hear. )
Sir GEORGE NVARRENDER was of opinion that
the Government should not press this point, both for the
sake of the Right Hon. Gentleman in the chair and of the
Reform Bill itself.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that the Hon. Member
was mistaken in his views of the labour required from the
chair on this occasion. He seemed to forget that the
House was to go into Committee, when the services of the
Speaker would not be
.required. Under all the circum-
stances of the case, and considering that Monday would
not be lost—for it was not a day devoted to the Reform
Bill—the Government thought it would be more expedient
to avail themselves of a few hours to forward this import..
ant measure on S iturday.
Mr. WYNN said, all he proposed was, that the Govern-
ment should give up to their duty those more agreeable
engagements which they had formed elsewhere.— (Hear,
hear, and a laugh.)
Mr. HUME recommended the Noble Lord to do as he
would be dune by, and and to recollect how much the
labours of the Election Committees would be retarded by
the meeting of the House on Saturday. The Right Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Wynn) had attempted to cast a slur on
those who proposed to partake of the public breakfast
(not dinner)—(A laugh)—in the city on Monday next.
Now he was one of those who intended to go ; and he be-
lieved it was the general opinion of others in the same cir-
cumstances, that they went there as a mark of respect to
the Sovereign, and not for the sake of what they would
get in the way of refreshment ; for many of them had
ordered a dinner at home when the businss was con-
cluded. He believed, too, that the Committee looked on
the presence of the Speaker of that House, and the Mem-
bers of the Government, as necessary to give effect to the
ceremony, and to do honour to his Majesty.
Mr. WYNN merely wished the Government to do their
duty, rather than subject the petitioners on eleotiom to
unnecessary expence.

Alderman VENABLES said, that the Oammittee had
extended their invitations to all the number which could
be accommodated—(A laugh)—and he hoped that no sore-
ness was felt on account of unavoidable omissions.
_ _

Sir C. WETHERELL recommended the Nob'e Lord to
abandon his intentions with respect to Saturday, and to sib
one hour earlier each day of the ensuing weeli.
Colonel SIBTHORPE was afraid that Clovernment
had a _design in proposing delay, aod that they were wait-
ing to he able to producle effect 6y the agencyof the decision
of the common Council of the City of London with re.
Gpect to delay in passing the Bill.—(A laugh.)
Lord ALTHORP denied all design of that kiod. He
knew there was to be a meeting, but ha did not know on
what day, and he believed some of,• his colleagues had never
heard a word on th.l sOrject. He was afraid he could not
agree to thi, -4-4,zposal of the Right Hon. Gentleman, as
tha Members thought they sat long enough each day al-
' ready ; and he conceived that on ltt cze.asicr, when his
Majesty went in state to the c.i:y of Loudon, it was the
duty of his Minist;ria to, accompany him, so. that it was
not ectrvenient that they shouild sit on Moo,daz,
A long and desultory conversatim ern:w I, in which the
foregoing arguments were returgod ; on the one side by
Lord Milton, 4,oTd Althorp, Mr. Spring Rice, Mr. W.
4iaryey, 4c. on the other by Mr. Wynn, Sir E. B.
.lug,den, Mr. Wrangham (who stated that having, as be
conceived, an excellent ease to show that the borough of
Sudbtiry should not be included in schedule B, he vl/4-4.4 un-
willing to have that question considerld :.ta a thin House),
Mr. Dawson, Sir C. Weth?ize'il, Praed, Sir Robert
Bateson, Mr. Knight, Sir U. Murray, &v.
Ari'TWOD, in order to close the discussion,
moved as an amendment to the motion under considqatien,
that the House at its rising should adjourn. to INesday.
Sir II HARDINGE, althon!.l he certainly thought
that no business shov,ld i e Koceeded with to-morrow, I
was of opnioa, that as it had been intimated by the
Noble Lord that there was a Commission for the pnrpose
of giving the Royal Assent to several sills, among which
was the Queen's Dower Bill, respect for their Majesties
ought to induce the House to meet for that particular ob-
ject.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. O'CONNELL entreated the House to proceed with
the Reform Bill to-morrow; were it only for two hours;
for the purpete of satisfying the public, who bad become

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Lord STORMONT put it to the cand.ur of the Nohld
Lord, whether it would be right to violate Ow under-
standing which Lad been entered into, that the Members
of that House should, after their unparalleled fAtigue, have
two days to refresh themselves in the country.
Mr. ATT WOOD would consent to withdraw his amend-
, ment, upon the conditit n that the Chairman of the Gmi-
mittee, on rising that 'night, should retort progress, and
ask leave to sit again on Tuesday next.
The Huse then resolved itself into a Committee of the
whole House on the