The Sun.
London, England, 1849-07-23 00:00:00

EVENING-, JULY 23, 1849

tants of this great city are indifferent to the state of
Hungary, or to the objects of those despots
who are making daring attempts to fetter her liberties
and independence.—(Cheers.) Gentlemen, I appear
hero to day anxious to add my mite of sympathy to
that which you are prepared to express for the interest
of the Hungarians, and I think it right that I should ex-•
explain exactly what my sympathy is, and what my ob-
jects are in coming here.—(Hear, hear.) Gentlemen, if
I have one principle more than another firmly
fixed in my mind, and one which I think it is not only
necessary for the interest of this country, but for all
countries to recognise, it is this, that a separate and inde-
pendent country should be allowed to regulate their own
affairs in the way which to them may seem best, without
the interference of any other foreign poF er
whatever.—(Loud cheers.) I make no exception
to this rule. I include in it the right of the Romans.—
(Cheers.) I include within the benefits of this principle
the poorest, the humblest, and most degraded commu-
nity; for it is no answer to my principle to tell me that
certain countries are not in a state to govern themselves
properly. I say, the fact that a country is not able
to govern itself properly, is no reason why you should
go and attempt to govern it according to your own
notions.—(Cheers.) I come now to the case before us—
and I am anxious that no time should be lost, and
as I shall not address you long, I hope I shall
meet with little interruptions.—(Hear, hear.) The
question before us is that of Hungarian independence.
—(Cheers.) If this had been a question simply be-
tween Hungary and Austria, I should not have appeared
here to-day, nor would it have been necessary, gentle-
men, for any of us to appear here to-day.—(Cheers.)
So long as the Hungarians were left to settle their
affairs with the Government of Vienna, they were per-
fectly competent to do it, without the interference of the
citizens of London. Why, gentlemen, they have, I be-
lieve, driven the Austrian army from their territories,
and to all intents and purposes, therefore, they stand
now in the position of an independent h
petndey7tbynatthioeinr.
—(Loud cheers.) So far, then, have
own power, been able to maintain their own indepen-
dence against Austria. But, gentlemen, my object in
coming here to-day is to protest against an armed inter-
vention as unjust, as iniquitous, and as infamous as any
that was ever perpetrated by any naticn.—(Cheers.) I
come here to protest against the Russian hordes pouring
on to the plains of Hungary, and I do so upon the
principle I laid down at the beginning. I would pro.
test against an English standing army being sent into
Hungary to fight the battle on the other side,
and I now protest against the English,Government send-
ing a standing army of Englishmen to encroach upon
the Theiss and Danube. I come here to protest against
foreigners being there at all.—(Loud cheers.) And
here, gentlemen, I must say that I have seen
with some astonishment, in the speech delivered
by Lord Palmerston—for I was not in my plaee in the
House of Commons on Saturday, having had a three
weeks' engagement to go up the river on a pleasure party
with your excellent Lord Mayor—there is no mention
of Russia. I say I have seen with some astonishment
that Lord Palmerston, in making a long speech upon the
affairs of Hungary, a great portion of which went to de-
fend himself against what I must say were ridiculously
unjust charges made upon him in the House of Lords on
Friday, he makes no mention of Russia.—(Hear, hear.)
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

THE COUNTIi
LivEarooL, JULY 21.—The
change in prices.

LY MARKETS.
trade to-day is inactive, but no

o. d. o. d

Wheat, per 701 b
:
English, white .. 7 2 to 7
Do. red.. .. 7 0— 7 3
Irish, new .. .. 6 3 6 61
Do., old .. 6 6 6 7'
Dantsic.. .. 7 6 7 9
Do., good mixed 7 6 7 91
Lowerßaltic,white 6 11 7 01
Do. red.. 6 9 6 11
American • •• 7 0— 7 5
Canadian • • .. 610 7 5

s. d. s. d.
Barley,Feeding• • 3 8 to 4 0
Rye, per 4801 b .. 28 0 30 0
Beans, English, pr
imperial quartr 34 0 36 0
Irish and Scotch,
per 4801 b.. • • 30 0 31 0
Foreign, duty pd. 24 0 24 6
European, per im-
perial quarter .. 32 0 33 0
Peas, English, per
imperial quartr 32 0 33 0

Spanish, red and
white.. .. •• 7 0— 7
Tuscan and Bar-

Foreign • • .. 29 0— 31 0
Malt, English, per
imperial quartr 58 0 G 1 0

letta, red .. 6 7 6 10
Marlanopoli .. 5 10 6 01
Odessa, Polish .1 6 0 '6 2
Do., hard.. .. 5 2 5 6
Egyptian .. .. 4 3 5 0

DO., Irish .. 55 0— 56 0
Do., brown .. 54 0 —57 0
IFlour, English, pr
2801 b 35 0 37 0
Irish, extra fine•• 36 0 38 0

Oats, per 451 b :
English and Scotch 2 1 3 2
Welsh .. .. 2 7 2 9
Irish, new .. 2 8 2 9

United States, per
barrel .. ,24 0— 26 6
Canadian .. .. 24 6 25 6
Oatmeal, English, _ . -

D0.,01d .. 2 9 2 IC
Barley, English, pr
imperial quarter 30 0 —32 C

& Seoteh,pr24oll; 25 6 26 0
Irish, new .. .. 24 0— 24 9
Do., old .. .23 6 24 0

Irish, Scotch, and
anx, per 60lb .... 3 8 3 10

Indian corn, per
4801 b .. .. 31 0— 32 0

WINCHESTER, JULY 21.—A better supply of wheat than
on this day se'nnight, the late genial showers having dissi-
pated the hopes some holders had that prices might yet further
advance before harvest. To-day, to effect sales, a reduction
of 5s per load for primest qualities, and 10s ditto for iuferior
wheats had to be submitted to by the sellers, and then but little
business was transacted. Best white, weighing 641bs per bushel,
went at 141 per load.
ANDovEs, JULY 21.—There appeared bntj little doing,
prices having receded fully Is per quarter since this day week
for wheats. Little or no alteration in barley, oats, or other
spring-sown corn.
READING, JULY 14.—Wheat, per quarter,34s to 58s; bar-
-14, 25s to 355; oats, 16s to 23s ; beans, 30s to 38s; peas,
30s to 38s. Fat hogs, Os Od to Os Od ; porkers, Os to Os per
score. Poultry—Fowls, per couple, 3s Od to 4s Od ; ducks,
per couple, 3s Od to 4s Od; geese, each, Os Od to Os Od; butter,
per lb, is to is Id ; eggs, 14 to 18 for Is.
DALKEITH, JULY 19.—The relative weight per four bushels
of the three prices of wheat were 19st 01b, IBst 41b, and 17st
61b. Oats, 12st 81b, 12st 71b, and Ilst 31b. Barley, 16st 41b,
15st-91b, and 14st 10Ib. Peas and beans, 19st 11b, 18st 81b,
and lBst 91bs.
Qrs. Best. Current. Inferior.
207 Wheat .........£2 15 0 £2 9 0 £2 4 0
458 Oats ' ... 1 3 0 1 1 8 019 6
1004 Barley 1 11 0 1 5 9 1 2 6
27 Peas and Beans 1 15 0 1 13 0 1 12 6
Average of wheat 4ss 40.

GLASGOW' Jux.;l9.—At our market to-diy the numbers
were—oxen, 299 ; sheep, 614; lambs, 3,729. Owing to the
scarcity of cattle at our market prices had a tendency up-
wards. Best quality 50s per cwt, middling from 38s to 45s
per ditto, sinking the offal. We had a large supply of sheep
and lambs, which caused a reduction, and sales were effected
considerably in favour of the buyers. Best wethers 5d
per lb, middling and inferior from 4id to 5d per lb, sink-
ing the offal ; lambs from 4s to 14s per head, according to
quality.

PUDDLE-DOCK NUISANCE.—On Saturday Mr. Har-
riion, of the King's Head, Earl-street, Blackfriars, and
several of the inhabitants of Castle Baynard Ward, for-
warded a letter to Mr. D. W. Harvey, complaining of
the refusal of Mr. Payne, the Coroner, to hold an inquest
on a lad of the name of Pearce, who was attacked with
cholera at seven o'clock on Thursday evening, and who
died at two o'clock on the , following :morning. The
purport of the letter was to ascertain from Mr. Harvey
whether he possessed any power to interfere inputting
a stop to the disgusting exhibitions at Puddle-dock, as,
in the course of mid-day, not only waggons arrived
loaded with putrid filth, but bones in the worst state of
deComposition. Mr. Harrison and his neighbours also
complained of :the intolerable stench arising from the
dock when the wind is seuth. In the course of Saturday
evening Mr. Inspector Scott and Sergeant Price, 66,
City Police, waited upon Mr. Harrison, and informed
that gentleman that the Commissioner regretted that
he had no power to interfere. While Mr. Harrison was
thus actively:engaged in drawing the attention of the
authorities to the nuisance, a labouring man, of the
name of Harwood, who worked at Wheatsheaf wharf
which is close to Puddle-dock, was attacked with
chelera, and removed to St. Bartholomew's Hospital in a
dying state.
Considerable alarm has been excited in some dis-
tricts of London by reports of the spread of cholera,
but we believe they are generally exaggerated. The
police reports—including the whole district of fifteen
miles—give but three deaths in the entire force. In the
whole population within the bills of mortality, the deaths
reported amounted to but 55 yesterday and 45 the day
before.—Observer.
MEETING OF ENGLISH AND IRISH REPRESENTA-
TIVES.—An influential meeting of the Members of the
House of Commons was held on Saturday, in one of the
Committee-rooms,for the purpose of making such arrange-
ments as would ensure a cordial co-operation in Parlia-
ment between the Members of the movement parties on
both sides of the Channel. The meeting was presided
over by John Bright, Esq., MX., and was attended by
a barge number of the Irish representatives, and by
many of the leading Members of the progressive party
in England. We understand that the meeting unani-
mously resolved upon a united course of action in the
House, upon the three following questions : the Irish
Church question, the franchise question in both king-
doms, the land question in Ireland. It was also under-
stood between the gentlemen who composed this impor.
tent conference, that every exertion should be made out
of doors to secure for these fundamental questions th(
moat active and extensive support.— Weekly Chronicle.
The Right Hon. the Speaker gave his customary
entertainment to the officers of the House of Commons
on Saturday last, preparatory to the close of the Parlia-
mentary session, at the Right Hon. Gentleman's tem-
porary official residence in Eaton-square, when the circle
included Lord Charles Russell, Mr. Ley, Mr. William
Ley, Mr. Henry Ley, Mr. John Dorrington, Mr. R.
Chalmers, Mr. J. Gudgo, Mr. W. S. Gunnell, Mr. G.
Whittam, Mr. G. Dyson, Mr. R. K. Gibbons, Mr. C.
Rowland, Mr. A. Jones, Mr. John Clementson, Mr.
Booth, Mr. T. E. Moy, Mr. S. Smith, Mr. G. Vardon,
Hon. Mr. Waldegrave, Mr. R. A. Gossett, Mr. C. B.
Lefroy, and the Rev. Mr. Gamier.
Brandy, at the gold mines of California, sells at
about V. per bottle, and is used quite freely at that price.
EXETER LITERARY SOCIETY.—The Western
Times says that :Mr. Charles Pearson, M.P. for Lam-
beth, will open the session of the Exeter Literary Su-
ciety, August the 24th, with a lecture on the important
subject of prison discipline and the treatment of crimi-
nals generally.
MR. HUDSON'S ESTATES.—The following is an
auctioneering estimate of Mr. Hudson's estates now
being, or about being, brought under the hammer :
Londsborongh (bought of the Duko of Devonshire),
470,000/.; Baldersby, 180,0001; Octon Grange, 80,000/;
Newby Park, 22,0001 ; Gibraltar House, at Albert Gate
18,0001., making a total amount invested in lands and
houses alone, within a trifle of 700,000/,
The judgeship vacant by the death of Mr. Justice
Coltman has hot been offered to Sir Frederic Thesiger,
but it is said in political circles, where the Learned
Gentleman holds no unimportant position, that inthe
event of certain propositions made by Sir Jollies Graham
meeting with the concurrence even of a majority
regardedity Graham t
the
Cabinet, that S:r Frederic'a promotion may
as certain.— Weekly Chronicle.
George Knox,
COLONIAL upNointed Chief-Justice of the
Supreme Court or the Land of Trinidad; and Her-
Esq., Puisne JuAdi;er,°liitti
Ithox, as Ptusne Judge of the same court--
bort Townsend Bowen,
.Esq , Solicitor-General, is to
succeed •
Observer.
Lieutenant. General Lord Seaton had an interview
with Earl Grey, on Saturday, at the Colonial-office.

TO THE SECRETARY OF THE
METROPOLITAN REFORM ASSOCIATION.
Sir,—On Wednesday the 18th, in Committee on
Supply, some useful points were raised, connected with
the management of foreign dependencies. They may
be reduced to two ; the expenses worth incurring, and
the treatment of the natives. On the first, there was
some sparring, in the instance of Corfu. This island,
with some minor ones, was pushed upon the British
Government and people, as knowing them to be no-
thing loth to take any thing they could, by the Holy
Alliance in 1816. An Indian prince, when he wants
to ruin an individual subject, is understood to make
him a present of an elephant The subject dares not
get rid of it, and the elephant eats him out of house
and home. The same kind of an elephant has been
Corfu. There was manifestly an impossibility of
getting rid of it ; and there was no end of the ex-
penses it entailed. One year it was discovered the
sea defences wanted increasing ; and another, that
there would be no balance of strength unless an equal
expenditure were made on the land side. The con-
sequences were presumed awful, if by some concate-
nation of the European powers, we were to be robbed
of our elephant; and exactly as this danger was ;A-
irlifted, it became necessary to guard against the
perils of hostile influences exerted upon the native
population. And our mode of conciliating this popu-
lation, was to send th?m the roughest of military
governors, whom no title could popularly shadow out
but one taken from the rudest of Coast of Guinea
potentates. And so between arms and policy, we had
the enjoyment of our prize.
In another foreign dependency, the case is worse ;
for it was plainly out-spoken in the course of the
debate (or I should not put it here), that from the
Isle of France there will be a bill for fortifications
on the land side, to hinder the French inhabitants
from taking the place without waiting for an attack
by sea. How slowly men live and learn ! 'What
reason, for instance, can be given, v;hy the inhabitants
of the Isle of France should not by a competent
course of British rule, be made to be as devoted
citizens of the empire as the Jerseymen ? Is there
nothing communicable under the British Constitution
and rule, which can balance the recollections of the
good old warlike times ? History and De Foe have
established, that all the heterogeneous races upon
earth are capable of being wrought up into the
" Trueborn Englishman. Domestic and commercial
interests will always, if cultivated, outweigh the
memories of ancient barbarous days.
On Thursday came on the Member for Surrey's
motion for verifying the existence of " needless places,
extravagant salaries, and unnecessary works and es-
tablishments." Bit by bit, and after many trials, the
Conservatives have reduced their motion into a shape
which Free Trade stomachs, not without some diffi-
culty, could swallow. But it was not fair, after these
last had signified their power to accept, that new
speakers should stand up and try to insert as much as
possible of the old emetic matter. If it had been done
a little earlier it would have caused the division to
go the other way ; for there would to a certainty
have been two votes which would have taken anctber
course. As it was, the motion was carried with the
small majority of 71 over 68.
In the course of the evening waa the somewhat
curious phenomenon, of a division (Incumbered
Estates, Ireland) producing a majority of 84 against
0. To the curious and uninformed, it may be ac-
ceptable to be told, that a motion is expected to be
seconded, among other reasons to make sure of a
second teller. But after the mover and seconder have
been taken for tellers, it is possible there may be
nobody else, as was the case here.
On Friday the House was occupied by a debate of
extraordinary irregularity, which under the protesta-
tion of having nothing to do with either Protection
or Free Trade, was in fact a demand for the introduc-
tion of a fixed duty on foreign corn. What was pro•
duced for argument from the Conservative benches,
might be reduced to the assertion that a duty on
foreign corn, within certain limits, would not raise
the price abroad. The Chancellor of the Exchequer
wisely answered, that when he saw a chance of per-
suading the people of England of this, he would pro-
pose it.
What was produced in support of the assertion,
consisted in asseverations that the fact had been so in
certain instances stated, backed by the averment that
this proved the principle. In cases of this kind, there
are always two things doubtful; first the facts, and
then the inference. If a carrier was found stating
that he knew by experience that the fewer horses he
put on, the faster he drew, the doubts of the audience
would be, first, whether there was not some mistake
about the alleged facts, and then whether, supposing
certain increases of velocity to have been found con-
comitant on certain diminutions of the team, there had
not been some mistake in the general conclusion
drawn.
The truth in such a case is, that the alleged expe-
riences in one direction are rebutted by overwhelm-
ing counter-experiences in another. No man doubts
that if there had existed a five or eight shillings duty
upon corn, and it were now taken off, foreigners
would say, " Here are the English, who have taken off
their duty upon corn ; they can consequently afford
to give us more, so let us see how much we can get."
And no man doubts that to a certain extent they
would be successful, but not to the extent of getting
the whole duty added to the price. For in each of
the supposed foreign countries, the price
of corn is regulated by the competition among
sellers ; and the sellers can no more agree to demand
the addition of the whole duty to the price, than they
could agree to demand it the day before the duty was
removed in England. It was not far want of good-
will that the sellers did not demand it before, but
because those who could afford corn cheaper, were
sure to let down the others. And so it will be
when the duty is removed. There will in any given
place be some increase in the quantity of corn
bought for England, and some rise of price is
always the case when an increased quantity is
bought. But this will be all; and the thing
specially impossible will be that the price
should rise to the full extent of the duty removed,
which would have the effect of making the quantity,
bought be the same as before, and consequently be
sold at the old price. The notion is like that of
the two Kilkenny cats which ate each other up. That
a portion of one or both might be eaten is easy ;
but that all should be eaten up, is attributing an
effect to a cause which vanishes in the process.
Two remarkable facts, and worth treasuring,
were stated by a practised Baltic merchant.
One, that the quantity of corn imported since the
alteration in the Corn-laws, had been greater than
before by one. third. The other,that when a duty of
465. a load was taken off Baltic timber, the price
rose not by 465. but 203., and so remained for one or
two years and then descended ; timber being an
article, the supply of which upon the coast, some
time is required to increase. In which the important
point is to see, that the price never increased, even
temporarily, by 465., but by less than half. So that
even if it had never fallen lower, the cry of " Do
not take off your tax on timber, because the foreigners
will get the difference," would have been a fraud.
As there was no question before the House, except
whether the Committee of Supply should be gone
into, there was no division, and consequently no re-
sult except an expenditure of words that went for
nothing ; which probably accorded with the Pro-
tectionist ideas of prudence.
On Saturday the House met, professedly to re-
ceive a Report. But the introduction of the Hun-
garian question by the Member for Middlesex re-
sulted in a debate, which may be considered as one of
the most important of the session, and ended in what
may be called a universal expression of confidence in
the conduct and principles of the Minister for Foreign
Affairs. In my next I will endeavour to give some
details. I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
AN OLD REFORMER.
London, July 23, 1849.

CONSERVANCY OF THE THAMES.—On Saturday the
Lord Mayor, attended by the Recorder, several of the
Aldermen, the Sheriffs, and city officers, held a Court '
of Conservancy at the Guildhall, Westminster. After
the adjournment of the Court, the Lord Mayor and the
Lady Mayoress gave a splendid entertainment to a large
party of friends on board the Corporation barge Maria
Wood, at Twickenham. Amongst the company we ob-
served the Countess Waldegrave and Lady Elizabeth
Waldegrave, Lord and Lady Milford, Lady Langdale
and the Jlon. Miss Bickersteth, Lady Parker, Captain
Bruce and Mrs. Bruce, the Hon. Leslie Melville and
Miss Melville, Mr. Hume, and the Misses Hume,
Mr. Cobden, M.P., and Mrs. Cobden, Mr. Henry, M.P.,
and Miss Henry, Mr. Masterman, M.P., Mr. Chaplin,
M.P., Mrs. Chaplin, and Miss Chaplin, Mr. Dodd, M.P.,
Mrs. liawes and Mr. Hawes, jun., Mr. Henry C. Hoare,
Mrs. Hoare, and the Misses Hoare, the Misses Burnett,
the Misses Prater, Col. Brandling, Capt. Johnson,
are Alde-
rman Sir Peter Laurie and Miss Laurie, Alderman d
Fare-
brother and Miss Farebrotber, AldertnarlalnVp_senssand
Alderman Copeland, M.P., Mrs.dCkizeiriut:pleiry. Capper,
h Alden]; an Ilumphery, 12„.
Alder-
man Sir G. Carroll andALl.PadyaUarroll, Alderman Hooper,
Ho_operi.rAs.ldaenrme an...le'ar_ne.
Jonah,
Mrs. Hooper, and Miss
mi..s bluney,
Alderman Hunter and lady,
Alderman Moon and lady, Alderman Lawrence, Mrs.
Lawrence, and Miss Lawrence, Alderman Carden, Mrs.
Carden, and Mrs. Shaw, Alderman and Sherifl Finnic
and Mrs. Finnia, Mr. Sheriff Goodhart and Mrs. Good-
hart,
the City Solicitor and Mrs. Pearson, Mr. Hill, Mr.
and Mrs. Anderton, end Miss Emily Baxter, Mr. and.
Mrs. Gabriel, the Controller and Mrs. Saunders, the
Under-Sheriff Tamplin and Mrs. Tamplin, the Rev. S
R. Cattloy, Chaplain to the Lord Mayer, and Mre..
Cattley, Fee.

Thel\ linisterial fish dinner, which vsually pre-
cedes the prorogation, will take place at the Trafalgar,
Greenv.icb, on Saturday next, the 28th imt. Her Ma-
jesty, after settling the speech from the Throne, and the
Royal Commission for the prorogation, is expected to
sail from Osborne on the Ist of August ea route for Cork,
Dublin,llelfast, and Scotland.—Observer.

Dispatches were received on Saturday at the Colo-
nial-otiin front the Governors of Cape Coast and the
apturitiae.