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not make that motion, as it bad already been negatived,
he moved that the debate he adjourned until Friday, at
five o'clock.—(Loud shouts of " Hear, hear, hear," and
" Divide, divide, divide," which lasted for several minutes.)
Mr. JAMES said, that rainy persons regretted that the
divisions on this occasion had been so frequent. For his
p r, he rejoiced at the circumstance, as it would show
the country the factious nature of the opposition which hid
been made to his Majesty's Government.—( Hear, hear.)
The question was, whether the power of giving away the
public money should be sold to the possessors of rotten
boroughs, or whether it should he given to the legislative
representatives of the people ?—(Hear, bear.) The Hon.
Gentlemen seemed determined that that power should still
be sold, by sho ring that even a majority of that House
was ineffective to check csrruptien. The people of
Glasgow might, therefore, hoist their black flag as soon
as they chose.—( Stentorian shouts of •" Question, ques-
tion, question," " Divide, divide, divide.")
Mr. C. PELHAM said that he was not a rotten Mem-
ber•—(A laugh.) If Government were hostile to rotten
boroughs, why did they not relinquish those in their own
hands?—(Loud cries for a division.)
Lord TULLAMORE slid that he also rejoiced at the
numerous divisions which had taken place, since they
proved that there was still a party in that. House--s(Heir,
hear, hear)—who, while they existed, would strenuously
maintain the admitted rights of the minority, by asserting
the important privilege of moving an adjournment on oc-
casions like the present. They hail been urged into the
adoption of this course most reluctantly—(A roar of
laughter, and shouts of " Oh ! oh ! oh ! ')_but he hoped
they would persevere in it.
Sir C. WETEIERELL said, that what the minority
had that night done to maintain their own consistency
and independence was precisely what had been done by the
Noble Lords and the Hon. Gentlemen opposite, when they
were placed in similar circumstances. During the period
to which his own recollection extended, the maximum of
the number of times which motions of adjournment had
been successively made by them, and carried to a division,
was five or six; Some Hon. Members, however, remem-
bered a score of successive divisions having taken place on
a motion of adjournment. When he and his friends had
got up to this opposition standard—when they had divided
a score of times—(A laugh)—it would then be time
enough for then to consider how to proceed. But until
they hail completed the full number of twenty, let not
Ministers think that this motion, which originated in the
refusal to give a patient hearing to the Hon. Member for
Dundalk—(Loud shouts of " No, no !")—would be aban-
doned. The Noble Lord and his triumphant majority
should have frequent opportunities of quitting the House,
like a comet with its tail, and of returning to a renewal
of the same exercise.—(A laugh.)
Mr. HUME begged to say one word. It was a pro-
verbial expression that there were men who lived long and
learned little. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman seemed
entirely ignorant of the relative situation of those who at
present, and of those who formerly sat on the Opposition
Benches. The minority in which lie (Mr. Hume) bail
often, voted, was backed by public opinion against an un.
popular Ministry. The case was very different at pre-
sent ; for now there was a popular Ministry, and a set of
factious persons in opposition.—qlear, hear, hear.)
Lord STORMONT declared, that while one Member
remained in that House who would rise and second hint,
so long would he persevere in moving an adjourtuneut.—
(Cries of Oh, oh.)
Mr. C. WOOD said, that the difference between the
motives of the two sides of the House was perfectly clear
and intelligible. The one had a distinct and evident
object to gain ; hut what object had the other ?
Mr. PERCEV AL disclaimed being actuated by any
feeling of personal pride, or by any wish fur party triumph..
But as it must be clear to the Noble Lord that he could
not make the opposition to his motion give way, at least
yet a while, lie put it to him whether he ought not to
take into consideration the labour which one individual
(pointing to the Speaker) had undergone ; and whether
he ought not to concede the point were it for that Right
Hon. Gentleman's sake alone.
Colonel SIBTHORPE—If Lord Stormont is tired, I
shall ipersist in moving the amendment.
Mr. KENNEDY—The country will know how to ap-
preciate a proceeding so characteristic of gentlemen on the
other side rf lie House.
Mr. ROBINSON—! am sorry that the Hon. Member
for Tiverton did not five hours ago put the observation
whiCh he has just made regarding the Speaker to the gen-
tlemen of his own party. I think that we have now got
to that point that if Government gives way now, it will
never be able to carry the Reform Bill.—(lmmense cheer-
ing.. Cries of "We will.") It was asserting a monstrous
doctrine to say that a small minority was to outweigh a
majority which was increasing on every division. (Hear.)
Lord KENNEDY denied factious motives.
Mr. FANE wished for some compromise.
A MEMBER called for Captain Gordon to proceed.
Captain GORDON declined to proceed.
The House divided--
For the motion
87
Against it
Majority -162
On our return Captain GORDON was on his legs, and
again declined to proceed upon the question.
An Hors. MEMBER moved the adjournment until to-
morrow, as an amendment.
Mr. PRAED seconded it.
Lord BRUDENELL disclaimed factious motives.
Mr. PRAED indignantly repelled the charge of faction
which had been urged against him.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL regretted that six divi-
sions should have taken place on what was called a trifle by
one of the Hon. Members who had proposed a division.
Sir C. WETHERELL said, that never did a question
arise in a more genuine manner than that the Speaker
should leave the Chair. He stated that if Ailinisters would
give him a ce.se in which a minority had ever conceded to
a majority on such an occasion, he would yield. The mo-
tion was brought forward to rescue the independency of
the Members of this House, which otherwise would have
been forfeited, for the strongest course was taken to pre-
vent certain Members from being heard. Touching the
appeal to the public, he said they would, he was well as-
sured, wish to see a contest fairly and spiritedly conducted,
and that they would desire to have a minority heard as
patiently as the most patriotic majority that had ever harked
in with an Administration.
Mr. R. GRANT, in return to the question respecting
the minority yielding, asked if a majority of the House
bad ever yet yielded on what was confessed to lie a trifle?
Mr. SHEIL thought, that as Captain Gordon had re-
ceded, Sir C. Wetherell ought also to recede.
Sir J. BRYDGES suggested that the parties ought to
draw lots. If they did nor, he would support the amend-
ment.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL observed that things
were come toe pretty pass, when the Hon. Baronet said he
would support the amendment because the opposing parties
would not toss up.
The House divided--
For the adjournment
Against iL ................ ........................ 187
Majority .--163
"Sir C. WETHERELL was on his legs. He again de-
clared he only wished to assert the freedom of debate, and
asked what proposition the opposite side would make to
accelerate public business?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
if it was sufficient on the part of the Ministers to assure
the lion. and Learned Member that the measure should
not go on at the present moment, if the Speaker were suf.
fered to leave the Chair, he would give these assurances,
and Would pl. dge himself that the only step that should be
taken would be merely that the Chairman do take the chair
pro forma to report progress, end then ask leave to sit
again. He was too anxious that every Hon. Member
should have an opportunity to deliver his sentiments on
the Bill, and by this arrangement such opportuuity would
be afforded him.
The SPEAKER—The question before the House is
that Ido now leave the chair. As many as are of that
opinion say aye.—(A loud burst of ayes.) The contrary
no—one or two noes. I think the ayes have it.
The Right Hon. Member then vacated the chair amidst
a volley of cheers, which continued for several minutes.
The Chairman of the Committee of the whole House
then took the chair, and the Bill was introduced pro
forma, after which he begged leave to report progress, and
to sit again.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at Half-past Seven this morning.

On Friday morning last, as a labouring man
was proceeding to his work across Peckham-fields, his at-
tention was arrested by bearing the moans of an infant
some distance from the footpath which he was crossing et
the time. He immediately repaired to the spot, and under
a hedge discovered a female child nearly perished with cold,
and crying most piteously ; it appeared to be about three
weeks old, and had scarcely any covering on it. From
the dampness of the few rags that partly covered his little
limbs, there is no doubt that it had been in the situation
where it was found the whole of the night, and must have
ceased to exist in a short time had not its moans attracted
attention towards it. The labourer immediately took the
infant in hie arms to Camberwell work-house, where it
has since remained, the parish-officers being unable as yet
to discover any trace of the inhuman parents.