The Sun.
London, England, 1809-04-26 00:00:00

The House; was likely to Melee tip en ehe eeeee,,
Abov aile%eatie ue.n sh he
must affeet the enaradter ef the flee , ; z
mons, both for the present and the t
. a transaation.Was to be passed over lea
out punishment, as the aineodment
Lord would propose even - Witieen aei.ne
f.
or notice. His-conscience acid a stele! of. (lit,.
perionsly called,upon him to .0 t11:-Nt: COOS lions to to the attention .of the House;
Mr. BANKES was inclined to aeept a' middle line
of proceeding, and especially to observe moderati eta
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•in deciding upon -a question like the present. .Tee
Right Hon. Gentleman entered at some length-in o
a vindication of.the Committee upon Indic Petro,:
age, of which he had the honour to be the Ch
man, Many malevolent endeavours had been
to misrepresent these proeeedings. There was niece
room to complain in that respect of some of tee
Daily. Newspapers, Which not 'only mils-stated the
evidence. of a Mr. Fuller betbre the Committee, but,
which ,had dealt in , unwarrantable insinuations
against his Royal Highness the Duko of Cambride
and even the first subject in the kingdom. ludetel,
it seemed in a great measure to be in the charaCt.e.
of these ill-fated times to endeavour to vilify whate,
ever-was venerablue--to degrade 'whatever was dig--
trifled. Such was the spirit betrayed- ia the teen •
relents that had been made on the evidence of Mr.
Fud'sr, to acknowledge and, show ;fin his Ron!
Highnzess the Duke of Cambridge Wils yl4illl •
raut titikoxisrence of any pecuniary tratbas:..tt io,
or that theirciosaelion it,clf, which
.comtuented on, bed ever teken letaee. Itieet
Honourable Gentle'enerrnext adverted to, and
'sated. the conchiti of th`e Marquis of arid 05.
served how easy it was to take advantege of the liee-
and general manner in whit:litho eetes °filen Nohle
Person had been couched. Whim- it as
his .fr ire
to see temper. and moderation prevaii ie the dieert •
sion and decision of the present trestion, ic,as,
ready at the same to confess, that after the
hid been so brought under the enuAidetation of the
House, it would be wanting•botn to whai" Was dne'
to the charadter of that House, to the eit- ,
potations of the country, not to pass upon such-a
tilleStloll to the Orders of the Day, but to prooetieca
upon it in the due extent and pooportion the o;..
fens _which had been committed. l'he offence
was not'only a Parliamentary but &moral tine: but still
it should not be forgotten that it existed only in in-
tention, and had never proceeded into netiou. it
Was his opinion that it should not however pass by
unnoticed.; but some proportionate punishment
should be devised for the offence. He should there.
fore have no objection to vote for the second resolu-
tion; should it be :mitigated and ;brought down to
the extent and natureof the offeneee
- Sir FRANOIS BURDETT ha.i little to offer on the
occasion, after what had beat ably stated by his
Noble Friend (Lord A. Hainilton), ,Nothing ap-
pealed to him ,more .weak, indeed ludieroes, then
the sort of defence which was atteitipted to be set
up of the conduct of the Noble Viseount, and tie
was sorry'and sUrprised to see it resorted to by a,
Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Bankes) who
had.deservedly so much weight with that
mod the Country. What ! was it to follcee then the
conduCt of the •Noble. Viscount was innocent :eel
blameless because theagreementhaci not ih'Orl
? Is it not evident that the Noble. Viscount w,i,;
anxious the agtecinent should: be fulfilled ie
it lid not, was not that the fault of the. interior
..,agents, who were not able to accomplish it : notof
the'--Noble Viscount, who ~brokteoef the busineSs,
• only because it could- not ;tee brought to boar.
the course of his speech, a Right. Hon, Gentlenien
thoiNht proper...to assert that there were eerictio
descriptions of people who .endeavoured to cry doWn
.men of rank and, emiuence in the State. Ho knew
of no such persons, nor did bethink that any iVretntSer
eV that House had the.riglii or privilege to hold out
such a charge against any such class of the tornolimity.
It was a 'hard, and perhaps an unforttinate :cirooth-
staiiee, to attet,upt at a moinenterind under circum-
stances like the present, to' ealomniateeny elesieof
the 'people, when that House did not itself stand as
high as it ought in, the estimation of the pm tiPlee
Why not boldly and distil** name -what was. the,
description of the people, who -were the perfit3qs
against whom such calumnies were direded'? ;
at least knew of no class Jet' per Sons. who
served t - be represented as disaffeded. Thelnii-
nuation was as dangerous ta theConatitution, as it
was.injurious. to those against ybom .was
The Noble Viscount had himself Confessed the guilt
of his conduct. What more would the House re-
-quire ? But it is said, you. should -not convic:-I,im by
his own evidence. Yet what evidence can be stip,
posed more tort ible than hiiown ccinfession ofguilt ?
He says, indeed,,that he Used.hisinflueneO to,bring
a friend into Parliament, only from 'a desire to sup,
port: Goiernment. iint.did not this intluence con-
sist in a ;bribe ? And if there be a., law to punish
enyindividual who 'gives a brine trt an election, is
there to be no law against a Minister who would set
cap this wholesale Wade of bribery ? The tbitig.was
a grave-and heevyknience against the Censtitueion,
and if the House ahowed it this night to- go um.
punished, such. Conduct would tend thorn to pro-
mute the cause of reform, than any thing which had
yet happened. 'He wished, earnestly wished, -to see
atebterS take, bp the business of, Reform them-
selves. It would come with a. good grace from
them, and .be received with <f ratitude by the peo-
ple.. Such at least. Was the manner:,,; In which h'
wished' to see,- Reform broughtabout. The. rk-s;re
for Reform was mow so prevalent that there :cis no
choice. but as to the mode' of bringing i about.
The people might not know where. to begin, or
where to. end it was therefore for Government-to
originate themselves., . and diiect the operation. it
was in-vain to attempt otherwise-.to cure the defter-
tnities of the Constitatiou, r.rhey could not at
least be cured by putting out the eymeof the Coune
try Jest it should observe them.

Mr. GSORGB JOIDISToNE hiciill4 to the opinion.
of Mr. Banker, and would willingly adopt the prin-
ciple of Mr. Flume, wbo advised moderation as the
best guide in polities..

. • , . .
Mr. H. LASCELLES imagined: tnat the case of the
Noble Lord was somewhat similar to one in whielt
Mr. Pitt had been placed, by granting' money
out the consent of lilarliametit. The thing tee., ;r it,
gular, thrlgh it Ass evidently intended for the ;
of the country. '1 he intention. of the Npblo id,
no doubt, was the same, but still it wait pr,00,9
marl: the irregularity of the traninaion.,