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I CITY op LONDON CONSERVATIVE
ASSOCIATION.

The first of a series (4 anniversary dinners, proposed to be
given by this Association.. took place yesterday at Covent-
garden nedt?e, which had been engaged fin' the occasion, on
account of so ext,7tioive a building affording greater facilities
for the accommodation dr *larger number of people than any
place usually devoted to simile purposes could have afforded.
The appearance of the house was extremely beautiful. The
stage was entirely cleared of the side semi and lights, and
the machinery, by which the " flies" arc supported aud shifted,
was concealed by a canvas screen, with which the ivhgle stage
was roofed, and which gave it the appearance of a capacious
tent. The tables extended from the very back of the stage I
acttlss the whole area of the pit (over which a platform
had been erected) to the dress boxes in the centre of the
house, and extendlog behind the proscenium to the walls
on either side of the stage. The walls themselves were
covered with the same material as that which concealed
the machinery above, and some scraps of scenery, which
were tastefully arranged at the back of the stage, and
wherever there were bare walls or dark recesses to conceal,
added materially to the general effect. The Chairman's
table extended across the stage, and was placed at the
back of it, a position which must have rendered the
greater portion of the proceedings wholly inaudible to a
vast majority of the assemblage, more especially as the
spestbes were very long, very tedious, and generally. delivered
in a very f*able tone of voice, with the exception of that ut-
tered by Mr. Mortimer O'Sullivan, which must have pene-
trated, if not to tile hearts of his hearers, at least to the
very last seat in the one shilling gallery. In addition to the
cenfry eltarKlelier and the small lustres round the boxes, the'
house was tell lighted by a variety of gilt chandeliers. The
muscians, vocal NW instrumental, were stationed in the lower
gallery, and every box in the house was occupied by elegantly
dressed ladies.

Shortly after six o'clock, the Chairman (Henry Hoare,
Esq.) and the principal visitors took their seats at the chief
table; and a grace having been sung, the dinner commenced.
At its termination another grace was sung, and these portions
of the proceedings having been got through to the high satis-
faction of the comptroy,
The CHAIRMAN rose to propose the first toast, which he
prefac-ed with an unusually long and somewhat discursive
speech, in it't, course whereof he observed, that no parti-
cular political purpOte was aimed at on that occasion ; that
twelve months had elapsed time tke first formation of the City
of London Conservative Association ; And that as its members
had never met to dinner, and as Joint Bull liked to meet his
friends in that way, there they were—(Ch;ers)--and he asked
them whether they did not form a magnificent asse..mblage ?
(More cheering.) It had been at first proposed that they
should meet In two parties at different places, but as .!•ut.:h a
proceeding was open to many objections, it had been deter-
mined to form one large party in that theatre ; and whether
he regarded the cause itself which had brought them together,
or the character, station, and talent of those by whom he saw
it supported, he could not but think that the epithet of " mag-
nificent" was most appropriate.—(Cheering again.) They
were not met to celebrate the principles of any one man, or
any particular set of men—not even the conqueror of Water-
loo, or the great Conservative leader of the present day.—
(Cheers.) Courtiers were but men; the wind should pass
over them, and they should be gone, and be remembered no
more ; but their cause was immortal, for was it not the cause
of truth and liberty'—( Cheers.) After designating the volun-
tary principle as voluntary wickedness, the Hon. Gentleman
proposed his Majesty's name in union with the Church, and
concluded by calling upon the proprietors of the hoary heads
present to
,join the owners of other coloured heads, in singing
as loud as they possibly coulci the chorus of the national an-
them, which had been so often sung within those walls. The
hoary-headed gentlemen complied, and the chorus to " God
save the King" was very thrilling indeed,
The CIIAIRMAN then rose for the purpose of pwposing ano-
ther toast. The city of London, he said, had a deep debt of
loyalty to discharge. A class of persons of inferior intelli-
gence and supreme vulgarity, emerging from that obscurity
in which they were born, and in which they would otherwise
have died, had put forth sentiments which he was happy to
know were in no degree responded to by the men whom he
saw around him.—( Cheers.) The character and conduct of
an illustrious lady bad been made by these persons the theme
of noisy declamation and of vulgar censure.—(Hear, hear.)
How her assailants could reconcile their attacks with any feel-
ing of delicacy, or regard for truth, he was at a loss to Ima-
gine. He would only add his hope that their attacks upon
one, whom it ought to have been their pride to delight and
honour, would tend but to inerease the loyalty and devotion of
that company.—( Cheers.) He begged to propose " the
health of her Majesty the Queen."—(Great cheering.)
Glee, " Here's a health to the King and the Queen."

The CHAIRMAN rose to propose the health of another illus-
trious lady, to whom it would have been unnecessary for them
to express, in a marked manner, their feelings of loyalty and
devotion, were it not for the base and vile slanders which had
been put forth by certain persons, respecting the designs of
a party in the State against that illustrious Princess. (Cheers.)
Of one of those individuals he should have had no particular
reason to complain, if the justice he so constantly demanded
for Ireland, were but a little exemplified in his own per-
son.—( Vehement cheering, and considerable laughter.)
This Irishman had cast an aspersion upon them, which a re-
gard for their own character would not suffer to remain un-
contradicted. This charge had been made against the
Orangemen of Ireland ; and although they might not be the
same society as that which he was now addressing, still their
principles and their interests were the same, and whatever was
proved against the one was no less proved against the other.—
(Great cheering.) He would say then, that they had been
accused of a design to alter the succession—they 1 whose
loyally knew no bounds I—they l whose loyalty verged upon
idolatry I—they were accused of nothing less than a treason-
able design to alter the succession to the Throne.—(Cheers.)
Never should he (Mr. Hoare) forget the vast extent of his
(Mr. Hoare's) indignation when he first read of this charge—
a charge so foul, that he was persuaded it could never have
been for an instant believed, even by its authors. He would
say no more ; lie thought he had sufficiently contradicted the
accusation. He would leave the rest with them, and only ask
them to join him in drinking, heartily and cordially, " The
Princess. Victoria, and the rest of the Royal Family."
Glee—" Health to my dear, and long unbroken years."
The CnAIR mAN again rose. The customary toasts were
disposed of; the customary toasts that were never dispensed
with, even at Radical meetings,—(Loud cheers.) He had
just been told that the health of the Queen was sometimes
omitted at the dinners of the nadicals.—(Cheers.) The
more disgrace to them. He had not reitilz imagined that even
the Radicals had sunk so low as this.—(Clieers and laughter.)
He knew that at their meetings much of their sweet fragrance
had been destroyed by having poured upon it the poisonous
breath of that foul spirit which called itself the sovNTignty of
the people ; but he was not aware that it had yet succeetLed in
utterly destroying their respect for one branch of the sove-
reignty of the realm. He was wandering from the subject.—
(Cheers.) He was about to say, that the customary toasts
having been drunk, he had next to propose, " The Army and
Navy." He begged them to drink it with the utmost enthu-
siasm.—(The toast was received with great cheering.)
Air and chorus—" Rule Britannia."_ _ . _

Sir JOHN 13E1tsroan rose to acknowledge the toast. After
observing that they had had a long peace, but that the chorus
he had just heard assured him sufficiently of the honour and
glory of the profession to which he was proud to belong—that
the height of Lord Nelson's ambition was to honour his King

and country—and that his present Majesty bad been a very
zealous and active midshipman for six years. The Gallant
Officer concluded by expressing the heartfelt emotion be felt
at having his name coupled with a toast, with Which it bad not,
in fact, been coupled at all.
Lord lioTnAm also returned thanks on behalf of the army.
The CHAIRMAN rose to propose "The City of London
Conservative Association."—( Great cheering.) They had
proceeded on the principle of establishing Conservative Asso-
ciations, because they felt that such institutions were rendersd
indispensably necessary by the several constituencies created
under the Reform Bill. A celebrated statesman had esta-
blished it as a maxim, that " when bad men combine, good
men should unite."—(Cheers.) Union was the order of
the day. The various societies of different kinds which
were in existence, sufficiently proved that union was
strength. By uniting, they encouraged their friends,
alarmed their enemies, and placed themselves in a better
position for communicating to others the principles and ob-
jects which they had in view. Ile was well satisfied that their
principles were those of a vast majority of the intelligence
and wealth of the country; but instead of virtue and intel-
ligence influencing and controlling, as they should, the rest
of the community, the tendency an effect of recent measures
had been to give to numbers the preponderance over intern-
gence._(Cheers.) Such were the times in which Conser-
vative associations were established. Their principles were
the defence of Protestantism, and the support of the Consti-
tution. Their watchword was, " Fear God, and honour
the King."—( Cheers.) Another of their great objects was
watching the registration of voters. It was well known
that what was anybody's business was nobody's business ; it
therefore became of the utmost importance that there should be
well-defined and clearly understood rallying points in all
places returning Members to Parliament, where the well-
disposedprotectio ni:artTohfothceonesottzuttivi.iety
Ans,siogehttatltiooook footr. assistanceiaoioo was
still
of a great number of not only
still an infant ; still it had already vbeunttedhadthme re-
gistrationa(temanirest this important fact—that if all the Conservatives in
the City of London registered their votes, they would be able
to elect Conservative Members, send tl ••• up • the face
of all England to the in
House o ..Commons. •m
iThis announce-
ment was followed by great cheering, the effect of which was
much assisted by a hurriourous gentleman near the proseeniunl:
who knocked double knocks with the prompter's k
express his own delight,friends
in his immediate and that of a select circle 01
vicinity.] Now he • might be asked why
He would
these Conservatives did not register themselves ?
tell them wily—beeitue
woull render themselves liable to fill
they knew that by doing so, they
"locker, ft.
Parish offices, of which

.)()Lport 't.fl
'bad a great horror.—(Lengt{ )
the fact; and it was in the power :1411e men who entertained
aaedring. This mls
principles in common with those
om he had then tha honour
to address, to decide the fate or Abe next Cleet:on.—(Cheers.
and itnrpOrtallro*ct•
Their entrance into that society),-,the payment •lf five shillings.
a year, scarcely more than a
penny a 'week, vgaild. enable:them,
not only to attain this great
bulto have
a good dinner every year.—(Tremendoll3feie, )1 tic beg Ted
;,6 propose " The City of London Conservative Ascoeiation."
Thd toast was drunk with great accla.nations, ,And followed
by a glee, zzommencing with a sentiment at once logical RA&
convivial—
With a jolly MI bottle let each man be armed,
We must be good sOjects when our hearts are thus warmed."
The CIIAIRNIAN then, with a high eulogy, gave.--" The
Church." _

Doctor CROLY returned thanks. Casting aside, fGr the
moment, all the high considerations connected with the
Meltell, as affording consolation in the hour of death, and soo. fl-
ing- the patb-way to immortality, he would consider it merely
as the greatand guiding principle of the English Constitution-
It was notoriety; that no country ever formed a perfectly free
Constitution but that in which they then stood ; and what man
of common sense could doubt the reason of iier presenting this
phenomenon? Was it not because she had a Church ? Was
it not because she had achieved no conquests, gained no fame,
reaped no victories, but by means of her Established Church ?
The first blow at the Established Church, dealt by a dark
conspiracy, in the name of liberty, ems followed by the fall
of the Constitution and religion together. Let them look to
I-istory. Who had been the defende,-s of the Constitution,
awl the advocates of liberty ? Who but soien bishops who had
been sent to the Tower, the champions and ;martyrs of liberty ?
—(Cheers.) A conspiracy was at the presen
t moment hatch
ing against the Constitution. In what did it
-
display itself?
(' Cheers.) If
that outcry were tel AC come universal, and that C
In an outcry aga-,,,5t the Established Church.—
hunch were
to be extinguished, away, .root and branch, would go the Con-
stitution.—( Cheers.) 11he ,:roposition now was, tO despoil
the Church. beware, he said, ill the spirit of truth and. sin.
cerity—beware of the curse of the ,spoiler. The Churchmcn
were twenty thousand strong. Let zi!ie people well consider
the hazard and danger of rendering twenty
gentlemen at once dependent on the boiin'ty of the Crown-
On the other hand, let them ponder well ~tpon the risk of
twenty thousand honest, intelligent, able, vigot'ous, and rode •
pendent men being in the ranks of disaffection. ,Ho did not
mean to say that the existing clergy would not be always ho-
nest, peaceful, subordinate, and loyal ; but in another genera-
tion, after the revolution which was now sapping and under-
mining the Church had been effected, they would have another
rat' to deal with, and for the consequences he would not an-
sw( r.--Cheers.) Let them think of the situation in which
a restless, dissatisfied, and discontented clergy could pi:ace a
country. Let them look to the small faction of clergy in .Ire-
land. Let them Iool: to these men who, even even in their ob-
scurity, were sending c;)rti: their mandates to the councils af
Europe, and making the leadors of the nation bow- down their
heads before them.—(Loud che,..rs.) As the constitution of
England had grown with its Estab:;shed Church, and thriven
with its Established Church, he warne,rl them again to beware
of aiding or assisting any party who borc% on their banners, as
their watchword, " Ruin to the Church." Let them remem-
ber that the hour which saw the downfall of the Church of
England would witness the destruction of the £'aglish Consti-
tution.—( Great cheering.)
The CHAIRMAN proposed the next toast, " The` Duko of
Wellington and the House of Lords.—(Loud cheer.'.) They
had been asked what was the use of the House of LoAls, and
propositions had actually been made for its destruction. Now
he must say, that if he had the alternative of destroying one
branch of the Legislature, he should say " perish the House
of :hat irresponsible tyrant the people." The Peers of Eng --
1„d o,‘:_re not an irresponsible body: they met in public, des-
bated in p,;:blic, and their character, opinions, and conduce
were public pro,-)erty, The outcry against them was sheer and
downright humbug, proceeding, too, from a party who coveted
for itself what it denied to :hem ; for what did the advocates of
the ballot, in fact, require but 11-responsibility, and even secrecy?
The Duke of Wellington, he v.-as happy to say, would have
been present that evening, if it had :sot been for a pressing en-
gagement which he could not set asiol"..
The toast was drunk with great chcerii:S. Chorus " See
the conquering hero cones 1"
The Duke of BEAUFORT returned than2c.s• The cha-
racter of the Duke of Wellington was too we'll known to
them to need encomium from him. With regard to the
House of Lords be was proud to acknowledge Chat the
sentiments of a large majority of that body were in deeard-
ance with those of the individuals whom he bad the honour
to see around him.—( Loud cheers.) A placard, and, be
believed, a pamphlet too, had been distributed about, in-
quiring, " What will the Lords too ?" He would tell therm
what the Lords would do. Treason stalked abroad ; sedi-
tion raised its head with wild schemes of innovation and

change; he was sorry to say that those schemes gained
ground in the other House of Parliament; and he was not

so presumptuous as to expect with confidence that tho
House of Lords would be successfully able to prevent at-
tempts to subvert the Monarchy, the Church, and the Con-

stitution. But a collision between the two Houses was very
much talked of. He dreaded such a collision as much a 3

any man could ; but this he would say—if the House of Lords
were to be deterred by the threat of that collision from
doing what they considered best for the good of the nation
a7nl the welfare of the country, let that collision come as
soon as it would. They would stand manfully forward and
do their dt:ty.—( Lond cheers. )
The Cmatumati said that having done their duty to the
House of Lord%, they now came to their representatives—or, if
his toast were not cf.:Aned to a portion
_of the body, he should

rather say misrepresen:atives—in the House of Commons.—
(Cheers.) After designkting the majority of the Hots° of
Commons as " riff-raft' aod " rabble," two epithets which

afforded unlimited delight, th,' Hon. Gentleman defined the
duties of a Conservative 111embei' to be, not offering factious
opposition to any government, not Voting black to be white, not
threatening to stop the supplies, not confiscating the property
of the Church, but evincing a steady attachment to one set of
principles under all circumstances, and At all times. Ho con-

eluded by proposing " Sir Robert Peel, and the Coniervatin
Members of the House of Commons."

The Earl of LiNcor,w, in returning thanks, intimated that if
he had entertained the least notion of being called upon to make
a speech, he would have brought one with him. Ile could say,
from a consultation he had with Sir Robert Peel, that that

Right Honourable Baronet deeply regretted his not being
able to be present on the occasion, a regret 10 which be (the
Earl of Lincoln) cordially participated, since it imposed on
him the task of addressing the assembly. Af.i.e.r alluding se-
veral times to his youth and inexperience, the Noble Lord
broke down and sat down.

Mr. WILLIAM PEEL also returned thanks, and bore testi-
mony to his Right Hon. relative being detained in the House
of Commons by his Parliamentary duties.
The Duke of BEAUFORT proposed—" The Lord Primate
and the Protestant Clergy of Ireland," a toast which 1711$ fol-
lowed by the following rather oddly selected glee :
" A gen'rous friendship no cold medium knows,
Burns with one love, with one resentment glows ;
One should our interest and our passions be,
My friend should hate the man that injures me."—Porn.
Mr. MORTIMER O'SLLLIVAN returned thanks. He was very
warmly received. He made a violent and furious attack on

the Roman Catholic religion, and all its members—a most,
appropriate one, being admirably adapted for the stage—and
repeated his well-known Dens' Theology harangue, nearly
verbatim.

The toasts of " The Lord Mayor and Magistrates of the
City of London," " The House of Brunswick, and may they
never forget the principles which have placed their family on
the Throne of these realms," " The Conservative Associations

throughout the Kingdom," " The Treasurer," " Prosperity to
trade and commerce of the City of London," " Ships, co-
lonies, and commerce," " The Stewards," and " The Ladies,"
concluded the performances; but the audience bad ceased to
be one, long ,hz•fore Mr. M,,rtimer O'Sullivan had concluded.
We had ahnest f,,rgotten to mention that the musical de-
part:rent was under the direction of Mr. T. Cooke, and was
extremely well conducted. The principal performers t ere
Mrs. 13ishop, Miss M. B. Hawes, Mi.ss Rainforth, Cooke him-
self, Bellamy, Hawes, Broadhurst, Hobbs, Hawkins, Charles
Taylor, Edward Taylor, and Handly.

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(TIIIS EVENING.)

11 OUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPFAIM to the Clink at Fair o'clJek.

Mr. A, Tip EVOR presented a petition from the Marquis
of Londonderry, praying tube heard by counsel atrainst certain
parts tithe S;Juth Durham Railway Bill. The Hon. Mem-
ber also presented a petition from Durham to the same effect.
Lord A. CON YNG HAM presented a petition from Can-
terbury, against the South-Eastern Railway Bill.
Lord C. m ANNE IZS presented a petition from Leicester,
aairist the Midland Counties Railway Bill.
EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWA.Y BILL.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY presented two petitions from Cog-
geshall, in favour of this Bill. As the Bill would come on
for a second reading presently, he would not make any obser.
rations on the presentation of,these petitions.
Mr. T. GLADSTONE presented a petition, very nu-
znerously signed by the owners and occupiers/of land on the
Mine of road of this railway against the Bill.
Mr. 'WILLIAMS presented four petitions from the
owners of land on different parts of the line of road to the
same effect.

Petitions were presented in favor of this Railway from 1,220
owners and occupiers of property on the line between London
and West Ham ; from the Tower Hamlets, with nelno sig-
natures ; by Lord Stormont, from Norwich, 3,635 signa-
tures ; by Mr. Prated, from the inhalaitants of Yarmouth ; and
from the fishermen of Yarmouth ; by Sir C. Broke Vere,
from Woodbridge, Beccies, Bun Jay, and Needham Market
by Mr. Morrison, from Ipswich ; by Mr. Sanderson, from
Colchester; by Sir Jehn Tyrrell, from Chelmsford; by Mr.
Bramston, from Brentwood ; by Mr. Quintin Dials, from
Witham ; and by Mr. Hall Dare, from Romford.
Sir C. B. VI(IRE moved the second reading of the Bill.
An HON. MEMBER, whose name we could not learn, moved
that the till be read a second time that day six months.
Lord. G. SOMERSET wished to state some grounds
which he hoped would induce the House to accede to the mo-
tion for reading the Bill that day six months. One reason
which presented itself to his mind was that he held in his hand
a petition from a gentleman of large property, who wenid
be very much aggrieved if the measure passed into law.
He had the honour a few evenings ago to present 4 17,etition
front a friend of his, a gentleman who would be son-lously in-
convenienced and damaged by the Bill, and tie thought the
'House ought'not to proceeddn a hurry wi':n the second read-
ing. Ile understood that a large numbnr of landholders would
be affected by its provisions, but the gentleman of whom he
spoke would have cut off kresenvoir of water which was most
useful to him. It was 'impossible to remove the objections of
the Committee, becinese if they attempted to deviate from the
particular line in nny particular, they would not have complied
with the Stand:nig Orders of the House. It was a common
argument to say in cases of this kind that the objectionable
clauses wondd be struck out in Committee, but so far as his
friend WP.3 concerned that was impossible. He had a great
right tat complain of a serious injury about to be inflicted upon
him% for the line would not run through highways, but through
his private demesne. Oh !it might be said that private inte-
masts should give way to the public convenience. He could
mot see that the advantage to the public was so great, or that
the proposed line should be so exceedingly useful. He did
not deny that Ipswich was an important town : he did not deny
that Norwich was an important town. But what he meant to
say was, that the commercial intercourse between them was
not so great as to warrant them in making a line from London to
Norwich by Ipswich. There was bat one coaelt travelling on that
road, and he was informed that the great majority of the tra-
vellers preferred a different route. In the prospectus put
forth by the Company, it w."'a stated to be the intention to raise
15,000/, by shares of 25:, each, and it was stated as a boast
that one-twelfth was subscribed on the whole line of the pro-
posed road. Now that fact showed the little degree of interest
taken by the Rersons, whose benefit it was said would be
promoted by th, railway. In the list of the Committee
he saw but one respectable gentleman of Norwich, and another
of anotb.ne place, upon it, and nine-tenths of the gentlemen
were :tot resident in the neighbourhood. This was not a
measure, so far as the traffic of Ipswich and Norwich
was concerned, that could justify the sacrifice of pro-
perty which the undertaking would require. There was
another objection to the Bill, the merits of which he would
not then enter into. There was, he understood, another
line of railway in contemplation, and without giving an opinion
as to the comparative utility of either line, he thought, at all
events, that this fact was a sufficient reason for delaying the
second reading of the Bill until the facts should be investigated.
,Under these circumstances he must second the amendment..
Mr. D. W. HARVEY rose and said, that the Noble Lord
had asked why the supporters of this Bill, in moving the se-
cond reading, had said nothing in its defence ? His answer
to the Noble Lord was, that if any observations had been made
on such occasion it would be a departure from the usual course,
and the Noble Lord himself would perhaps be the first person
to stand up and complain of the irregularity. With respect
to the Gravesend and Dover Bills, a most merciful intimation
had been given by the Civiernment, that these works, under
no possible circumsta-Aces, could be allowed to go on. This
intimation had the. effect of saving the heavy expense which
otherwise would, have been fruitlessly incurred. The Noble Lord
said that evidence had been given of the utility of
the uncle..taMnr, ; but he (Mr. Harvey) would ask, was
this the time for the production of such evidence ? If such
a coarse had been pursued on the second reading of a Bill,
-that House itself would be turned into a Committee room,
and. the ordinary routine of business would be completely set
aside. From his knowledge of the trade and population of
-the towns through which this railroad was to pass, be was
perfectly convinced of its utility. The line itself was pec.u-
liarly adapted for the construction of a railroad, it being a
perfect level from Whitechapel Church to Norwich. What-
ever may be the demerits of the present line, let
them be• considered where all such objections should
be considered—in Committee. If the claims of Mr. Fel-
lowes were so very great, he could not object to go
before such a tribunal, for there was no very great reluctance
on the part of Committees to throw the shield of their pro-
tection around the parks and pleasure grounds of private in-
dividuals. It was only the other day that a strong objection
was raised to the Hull and Selby line, because it ran within half
a mile of the choice country seat of a gentleman. He was
not aware that the Noble Lord (Granville Somerset) had
opposed any lines that had been brought forward du-
ring the present session in. such an incipient stage as
the second reading.—( Hear.) Let the Bill be referred to
a committee, and if Mr. Fellowes could make out a case for
their interference, although he (Mr. D. W. Harvey) had not
the honour to know him, no one would oppose the measure
more strongly. The arguments of the Noble Lord were all
directed to details of the measure, which were all to be consi-
dered in Committee, and there riddled and sifted. The Bill
avas one of the greatest importance to the agricultural coun-
ties of Norfolk and Suffolk, and it would be impossible for
them to compete with the Northern Counties, which were at
present so fruitful in railways, if they were not afforded the
same facilities. The present measure, therefore, was not the
offsoring- of choice, but the result of necessity ; and he trusted,
the;efore, the House would not allow the Bill to be strangled
in its present stage.
Mr. WOODHOUSE believed that the injury which would
be inflicted upon Mr. Fellowes was of such a nature as not to
admit of compensation. With respect to the arguments of
the Hon. and Learned Member opposite, all he would' say
was, that he, for one, entertained doubts whether any perma-
nent benefit could he derived from it.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG was not going to say anything with
reference to the present measure, with the merits of which he
was not acquainted. But a question had been raised, and it
had been alleged that opposition to Bills of the present descrip-
tion was unusual. He did not think that such was the case;
but even if it were; there were some cases in which
'the House would be justified for departing from such a prin-
.
ciple. There could he no objection to parties expending their
capital in whatever speculations they pleased ; but they should
not be invested with the enormous power of taking from other
parties their houses and domains, whether they pleased or not,
unless there was a strongly proved case of public utility.
The House would most certainly not do its duty, unless they
insisted upon having at least a prima facie case of a
great public good, before they granted such extensive powers
as were asked for by this Bill. Unless such evidence was be-
fore them, lie thought they were not justified in giving power
to any Company to invade the private dwellings of any one.
Mr. BERRIES said if the House adopted the amendment
which had been moved, it would place the parties in a diffe-
rent situation front that in which any other party had been
put during the present Session of Parliament.—( Hear.) It
-was true it was moved, without any reasons given in its favour:
but it was to be remembered that that had been the usual
course during the whole of the Session.—( Hear, hear.) It
appeared that all the subscriptions had been paid up—that was
a proof that the parties interest-ad were satisfied with the pro-
ject, and he thought that the House acting now as it had hi-
therto done, would not do its duty unless they sent the
the Bill before a Committee. It never had been usual to
reject a Bill of this kind ant the second reading. Surely it
was not to be thrown, because it was stated that the property
of some '
gentleman was much affected - by doing so upon
the present occasion, the House would not be doing the
same justice to this . Bill as they had done to others.
The most respectable of his constituents were in favour of the
measure, and therefore lie objected to the opposition to the
Dill—because it was unusual, uncalled for, and was not war-
ranted by the practice of the House.
Lord 'FiTORMONT, in presenting a petition from Nor-
wich, signed by 3,600, said that this shewed that a large
number -of persons in that city were favourably disposed
tosvareis the Bill. There were two lines of railroad
at present in contemplation in Norwich. Now, it was certain
that. two lines could never answer, and the House was to de-
c'•-.le which line should go un. For his omit part, he should
vote for the second reading of the Bill, reserving to himself
the Opportunity of considering which was the most advantageous
line of railroad.
Sir J. TYRRELL said that as he was a Member for the
county, he must be allowed to make a few observations. If
lie should ultimately feel inclined to oppose the measure, his
opposition Would eutirel rest upon private grounds. Ile had
presented several petitions
ns dto say, that the in
fa your of this railway ; and lie
oseas, nouno
pulic meetings which were most
riumnrouqly and rc,spee tw
tatdy attendedAtibthe line through Col-
chester was the. most popular. e same time he must be
.• permitted to say that abort a fortnight ago there had an op-
position sprung up along the line of road'. He would at p
sent stand entirely aloof, but at the same time representingr
e;
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the county, lie did not feel bound to offer any oppcftioll to the