The Sun.
London, England, 1831-10-08 00:00:00

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How will the British nation endure this unceremonious
rejection of their almost unanimous prayers ? Times.
The debate in the House of Lords became animated
and interesting as it drew to its close. We need scarce y
call attention to the magnificent speech of Lord Brougham,
in support of the Bill, which has eclinsed every effort of
oratory made within the walls of Parliament in the me-
mory of the living generation. Probably nothing is to
be found more splendid, more powerful, more convincing,
in the whole range of ancient or modern eloquence. It
was a noble, a prodigious specimen of the power of the hu-
man intellect. But to produce its full effect, it must have
been heard from the lips of the transcendant orator him-
self, for no report can do it justice. Even if we could give
his words entire, where are the expressive looks, the corn.
manding gestures,—above all, the emphatic, the sublime
intonations of his various voice?
" Quanto magis admiraremini, si audissetis ipsum ?"—Times.
Last night concluded the debates ou the second reading
of the ever-memorable Reform Bill. The opening of these
debates had been solemn and powerful. Earl Grey, whose
talents were never more conspicuously displayed than in
the luminous exposition with which he introduced his
measure to the House of Lords, made an impression that
will live in the history of the time. But if the opening
of those debates was impressive, the conclusion was, it
possible, still more so, for, besides the importance of the
qnestion itself, which no mind, however constituted, could
think of underrating, there was the circumstance o fan im-
mediate decision hanging over the last debate, and im-
parting to every word of it an interest unparalleled in the
transactions of Parliament. What Lord Grey was in the
first debate, the presiding spirit under whose influence the
whole host of corruption was scattered and discomfitted in
argument—the Lord Chancellor—was in the last debate.
With a powerful grasp of mind, with a versatility of genius
which few have ever equalled, he seized and took to pieces
the whole web of sophistry by which the system and
practice of corruption has been attempted to be upheld
against the united efforts of the Government and the
people. To enter into a description of the Lord Chan-
cellor's speech would be an unnecessary attempt in the
same paper which contains the best description that can
be given of it—a fair report. But that speech, though
triumphant in argument, though unapproached in wit and
sarcasm, and eloquence, and in all the aids and embellish-
ments which genius is capable of bringing to the assis-
tance of truth—that speech was defeated, was deprived of
its natural effect, conviction—not by the paltry ingenuity
of an ex-Chancellor, who could as soon have shaken the
foundation of the earth as any one of its positions, but by
the predestivation of a party, who were determined at
all hazards to add one month more to the long life of
corruption. Well, they have gained their point for the
present; the Bill has been rejected by a majority of 41,
in spite of the noble speech to which we have eluded,
and in spite of another noble speech—the reply of E irl
Grey, which, if reasons had no other difficulties to con-
tend against than ignorance or dulness, was calculated to
disperse the birbarous obstacle, and create the elements of
its own success. The opponents of the Bill have suc-
ceeded, however, for the present; but do they, can they
flatter themselves with the hope that they have, to
any practical or permanent extent, defeated the just ex-
pectations of the people of England ? We can tell them
that they have nut; we can tell them that the people,
who have been in some measure prepared for the turn
which things have taken, know and feel that they have
not, and that such knowledge and such feeling on the part
of the people, are the best securities to which we can look
at this :moment for Ztlie preservation of tranquillity.
There is no doubt now as to the course which Ministers

will pursue. They are pledged to stand by the people,
who have stood, and will continue to stand by them until
that great measure—the soul of their administration—
.hall be redeemed and vindicated by the virtue
and intelligence of the age. We have no fears
that the people will be betrayed into any violence. They
are too strong, and too conscious of their strength, to be
fretted into exasperation. Lord Grey, the Minister, the
champion of Reform and of the Constitution, with a firm-
ness well worthy of the wisdom and patriotism he dis-
played from the commencement, has renewed his declara.

tion to stand by the King. Some Member of the Oppo-
sition, anticipating the numerical triumph of his party,
called out to the Minister to resign, and the challenge pro-
duced an answer which is the omen of complete success.
The Minister will not resign, and the Opposition must be
beaten. We say must be beaten— for, only let the same
Bill be introduced, and see if the people of this country do
not rally round the King and his Ministers in a way that
shall set a mark upon the present Opposition, by which it
shall be known from all the Oppositions that ever existed
in England !—Morning Herald.

The Reform Bill is lost by a majority of forty-one.
The votes in favour of the Bill were in all 158, including
30 proxies; the votes against it were 199, including 49
proxies. The triumph of the wicked does not endure for
ever. Thank God, there are ways by which the invaders
of the rights and properties of the people can be managed.
When a House of Commons leaves the Government and
the nation—the remedy is a dissolution. When the House
of Lords stands out against the King and the nation, the
remedy is a fresh creation of Peers. Without this remedy
the Constitution would fall to pieces, and the people would
be left a prey to anarchy. The speeches last night of the
Lord Chancellor and Earl Grey in reply were mas-
terly—of Lord Brougham's speech, it was said by
an opponent (Lord Lyndhurst), that it was, perhaps, the
most masterly he had ever made. It would be of-
fering an insult to the understanding of our readers
were we to argue farther a question which no one
can misunderstand. The enemies of the Bill are the crea-
tures of corruption, who wish to retain the element in
which they have been generated, and in which they find
support. As Lord Brougham observed, the real aristo-
cracy of the country, the old Peei s possessing estates
which will allow them to be upright, are generally in fa-
vour of the B;11. The present Ministry themselves pos-
sess twice the property of their predecessors. The Peers
who formed the majority, for the most part, owe their
titles to jobbing and sycophancy, to prostitution of votes
to the Minister of the day. " Political service (said Lord
Brougham), without a scar in the Constitutional conflicts
of St. Stephen's, has made more Peers than all the blood
that was shed in all the battle-fields from Blenheim to
Waterloo." On Monday Lord Ebrington brings on a mo-
tion on the state of pubhc affairs iu the House of Commons.
The result of that vote may, of course, be anticipated. It will
place the two Houses in collision, and Ministers must either
resign or create new Peers to get over the difficulty. Lord
Grey has solemnly stated that he will stand or fall by this
Bill, and that nothing less efficient shall he supported by
him• Fellow Countrymen—let us be firm—let us be pru-
dent, that we may ensure the victory which must be ours
if we only conduct ourselves with wisdom. The oppo-
nents of the Bill are playing a desperate game. But if
we be firm and determined they must be defeated. All
lovers of peace and order—all who wish this country to es-
cape being the prey of anarchy and disorder, must rally
round the Ministry. So long as they remain true to
the great cause, let us remain true to them. We, the na-
tion, are not to be intimidated by 199 Peers, though in
that number be included nearly all the bench of Bishops,
They shall not snatch from us the healing measure
which was almost within our grasp. They shall
not, through the means of a sham Reform, succeed in
preying on us and making us tributary to a host of Noble
Mendicants. We trust that the Ministry will not desert
the people in this conjuncture—that they will not resign,
and not hesitate one moment to introduce into the Peers
the number necessary for the success of Reform. Lord
Grey in his reply said, " He would continue to serve his
King so long as his Majesty was pleased to require him—
but if the King and Parliament should withdraw their
cooficience from him, he was ready to retire to his happy
retirement, with the consciousness that he had done his best
for the good of his country and the service of his Sovereign."
The King will not withdraw his confidence from him,
though this, of course, is what the Anti-Reformers build on.
Let the people of this country now show the metal they are
made of. rbe English never were characterized as a fickle
people—easily elated and easily cast
generally shown themselves equal to the
their Scotch brethren are not famed for
emergency.
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tameness and. timidity. The struggle, however, on which
We are entering is not to he made light of. Corruption
has tune to strike a deep toot, We must prepare for
a desperate struggle,.-hut One which must end in success,
if we be only true to ourselves. That corruptienist who
first, for his selfish purposes, sheds the blood of a citie,ot,
ought never to be forgiven. We warn the borough.
mengers, that if they count on gaining their ends by brute
° heap burning coals on their heads. Once
countrymen,lnle:lwiii en's
let us show ourselves men. You brave
men of the Midland and Not thern hives of industry, do not
awayo trieti friends in this emergency. So long as we
your energies without occasion. Look to the
hope in Ministers continuing at the helm, do not let
advice
barrass the rti. —Morn ing Chronicle.

SIR WALTER SCOTT.—In addition to the
celebrated romance of " Frankenstein," by Mrs. SHELLEY,
which is to have a characteristic introduction, Written by
the fair Authoress, the next volume of the Standard
Nyvels will include the popular romance of " The Castle
of Otranto," accompanied by a Life of its Author, Lord
Onrono, from the pen of Sir WALTER SCOTT.

LONDON,
SATURDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 8, 1831.

The Reform Bill was lost last night in the House
of Lords by a majority of FORTY-ONE ! We
anticipate the feelings of regret—apprehension—
astonishmen:—indignation with which this disastrous
news will be every where received by the people.
But we entreat our countrymen not to despair, not
,o break out into acts of insubordination, but pa-
tiently and firmly to abide the issue. Let them but be
peaceful, vigilant, and determined, and they shall,
—they must, riumph. Not all the subtle arts of
the subtlest faction on record, shall have power to
blight their hopes. The hour, indeed, of their de-
liverance may be awhile put off, but so surely as to-
day's sun shall set, so surely shall the good cause
prevail. Ministers are firm, united, and confi-
dent, and will stand by the country to the last
moment. • Could talents, however, of the very
highest and most various character, have ensured
their success, they would not now have been left in
a minority. The speech of Lord BROUGHAM, anti
the reply of Earl GREY, were master-pieces of elo-
quence in their way—the former being as argumen-
tative, sarcastic, and impassioned, as the latter was
dignified and energetic. The effect of both speeches
on the House was electric.

The people are again in motion, but this time with
more determination and a more definite aim than
ever. The excitement throughout the metropolis
is, we believe we may say, unprecedented. The
news of the defeat of the Reform Bill has
already flown from one end of London to the other,
and though scarcely nine hours has elapsed since
the fatal division in the Lords took place, more
than a dozen parishes have resolved on instantly
getting up public addresses to his MAJESTY and his
MinisterF. The public agitation gains strength
hourly.

Countrymen, do not forget that the votes of the
Episeopa?Bench decidt'd the rate of the Reform
Bill in the House of Lords! !

We have just heard that delegates from the
various parishes in the metropolis have resolved on
41 meeting this day, at the Crown and Anchor Tavern,
'or the purpose of renewing their expressions of
loyalty to his MAJESTY, and perfect confidence in
Ministers.

Our City Correspondent says, " The state of the
City corresponds with the weather, in gloom and