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ESSEX.

Near Epping, Off the borders of Herts, a Freehold Villa Resi-
dence, with: Pleasure Grounds and Gardens, and 160 Acres
Of superior Land for Agricultural purposes surrounding it.
TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION,
By. Messrs. ROBINS, at the Auction Mart, opposite the
.Batik, on Tuesday, 28th instant, at Twelve o'Clock,
AN 'Elikible FREEHOLD PROPERTY,
very pleasantly situate on the borders of fleets, and a
short distance from pping; it includes a very comfortable
Villa Residence, with pleasure gr9unds, shrubbery walk, and
thriving plahtations' and a productive walled garden ; the whole
adapted
.to meet all the views of a moderate sized family. It is
laid out us a Ferme Omee, and includes in its internal arrange-
ments all that can be reasonably desired. The farm buildings
and out offices are of a corresponding description, and imme-
-diatelk environing the whole are 160 acres of excellent land, of
which:3o is arable, and the whole in the highest state of culti-
vation. • The estate has plenty of game, and is in the neigh-
bourhood of several packs of bounds. To a gentleman whose
pursuits incline him to field sports,and to the cultivation of good
land, this property seems particularly eligible.
The Estate can be viewed, only with, tickets, on Tuesdays
and Wednesdays; particulars may be had 14 days prior to the
sale, at the Inns at Epping and Woodford ; the Mart; and
of:Messrs. Robins, Covent-garden.

• PLINTSII IRE.
Shaves in a very Valuable Lead Mine, the property of a Lady.
TO BE SOLD BY AUC'T'ION,
At the Ring's Arms Inn, Holywell (unless previously disposed
of by private Contract, of which due notice will be given) on
S.ATL'IMAY, the 2d dsv of July, between the hours of
Four and Six o'Clock in the afternoon,"
TWO SIXTEENTH .STIARE!, in that va-
luable LEAD MINE called TRELOGAN, situate in
the. Parish of Llanasa, and,County of Flint.
This extensive Aline has been lately opened by the present
Proprietors, at a very great expense, and abounds with Lead
Ore, Calamine, and Bck Jack, and is now making a very
handsome profit.
There is a large Steam Engine on the Premises, for the pur-
pose of draining the Mine, which it is calculated will unwater
the vein to a great depth; and also a powerfitl ( just
completed) for crushing the Ore and Black Jack, which will
save much labour and expense ip washing
and
making them
merchantable.. with iron railways front the
mouth of each shaft
or pit on the Mine, to convey the produce thereto. and every
other convenience ; in fact., no expence has been spared to make
this one of the most complete works in the country.
The Lead Ore, Calamine, and Black Jack, are of the very
best quality, of the former of which there has been raised quar-
terly, for some time back, about 240 tons, and of Black .lack,
'250 tons, besides a considerable quantity of Calamine, with every
prospect of a very considerable increase, as the shafts and levels
arm, now opened, and the Mine in fullretah;loireisksosu.p,pw'll.yihiieocrfiel is a valu-
ib,nelatei.SlET:mtaffoyfileCbyoLe.idthi,nesnedpserarorpperahireettloodrfsu,tnhafeeoPrr
• tanley , Bars. and others, 19 years of which are unexpired.
the Crown, Sir tihsle:lS:trei:aulds
La:ahtr:o
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elbarf.4sur.
rypdtsl yiintuon
Buckley
lleiry; 11lb:or:el nidi ,i
Works,
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near ar
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Mold. Flintshirt.
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HEREFORDSHIRE.
MANSION and compact and valuable
FREEHOLD ESTATE, Willed Garden, Farms,
and Land, containing 262 a. 3 r. 1 p. called WISTESTON
COURT, distant from Hereford free miles, Leominster nine
miles, and Broomyard nine mile.—To be SOLD by PRI-
VATE CONTRACT, a desirable and compact FREE-
HOLD ESTATE, comprising a capital mansion house, with
domestic offices attached, a large walled garden, with coach-
houses and stables, two farm-houses, with spacious barns,
stables, and.ell requisite ont-buildings, and sundry inclosures
of capital meadow, pasure, and arable land, orcharding, and.
hop-ground, divihd by, thriving hedges in a ring fence, 100
acres of which are tithejree, and altogether worthy the atten-
tion-of a Gentleman fond of agricultural pursuits, the principal
part of which is let to tenants, and the rest in hand, and of
the value of 6901. per annum, exclusive ofthe mansion-hodse.
The landis of the first .quality,' the neighbourhood is highly
.respeetable, and offers a desirable prospect for investment—.
The Estate may be viewed on application to Mr. John Adams,
.
one of the . tenants.—For particulars apply to Mr. Joseph
Powell, surveyor, Sutton,. near Hereford • Messrs. Jenings
and Bolton, solicitors, 4,, Elnucourt, Temple, or Mr. Harris,
solicitor,•Herefbrd, who is authorized to treat for the same.

HAMPSHIRE.
The Manor of King's Worthy, an elegant newly-erected Man-
sion and• Offices, Gardens, Hot-houses, Park-like Grounds,
Plantations, Icehouse, Fishery, Decoy, Entrance Lodge,
Fart-ll:Houses, and Buildings; Domain cif One Thousand
Three Hundred and Sixty Acres, Water Corn Mills, an
Inn, Sundry Cottages, &c.
TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION,
13v Mr. RAINY, at the Auction Mart, opposite the Bank of
'England, on 'Friday, June 24, 1825, at Tlvelve o'Clock, in
nOlnadeeL.giyt,purinvlaettkes
canontarcacectp.ta.ble offer is, in the mean time,
THE WORTHY ESTATE, FREEHOLD;
and Land Tax Redeemed, comprising about One Thou-
sand Three Hundred and Sixty Acres of Arable, rich water
Meadow Pasture, and Wood Land, in the parishes of Martyr
and King's Worthy, on the turnpike road from London
to pton sixty Miles from the former, fifteen from the
latter; two
hrna
miles and a half from Winchester, (the county
town), sixteen from BasingstOke, anti four from Alresford, a
most desirable and sporting part of Hanipshire, and within five
miles of the Kennel! of Mr. Villebois' hounds. The Mansion,
substantially constructed of selected materials, ham been. coni
pleted within the last seven Years, from designs by Sir. Srnirke,
the elevation and decoration peculiarly chaste, and the inte-
rior arranged
with every regard to convenience and. comfort.
The principal rooms are 36 feet by 24, have plate glass sashes,
solid mahogany doors, and marble chimney pieces ; the bed
chambers are numerous, and the domestic offices, laundry, brew-
house, stabling, and coach houses; are adapted for a suitable
establishment. The lawn, parterres, gardens, and park-like
paddock of sixty acres, are beautifully embellished with flower-
ing shrubs, timber-like trees and plantations and shipe on the
south to the meadow grounds, through which the River Itchen
flows for a Considerable extent, affording excellent trout fishing.
The Home Farm of 400 acres is in hand. Hook Pit Farm, the
Mill, and other portions, are occupied by elligible tenants, and
the whole of the lands and farm buildings are in the best cOn-
dition, many thousand pounds having been expended. in iin-
provements.
The neighbourhood is of the bight* respectability, and the
roads particularly good in all directions.
Immediate possession will be given of.the mansion and estate
in hand, and the purchasers may be accommodated with the
whole of the new household furniture at a fair valuation.
Tickets toiview (without which no person can be admitted)
mhatyo fhlinthe,i4 porrinMr. Raratiincyula rs, 8,
lw%trh p k e i elYa-nss n cita' a Ind eexaend, tatn -ate; atils'oe
6rabiun, Kiniterley, and Doraville,
be had of him, and Messrs.
Lincoln's Inn ; at the Auction Mart ; the George. Winchester ;
Dolphin, Southampton; Swan. Alreaford ; of Mr. Blake, the
bail~ll_ who w ill chew the lands.; and at the Entrance Lodge.

• _____
• ' - . 11A AI RS,II I RE. •• •
EMBLEY MANOR, MANSION, and EgTATE, with the
Illanors and Estates of East Wellow and West Welkin', .on
the I.lorders of Rants and Wilts, nearly* Four Thousand
Acres, mostly free of Corn -Tithes ; and: tht,Advowson of the
Vicarage.
TO be SOLD by A UCTION, in July next,
The EMI3LY ESTATE, late the favourite Residence
-of Sir Thomas Freeman aleatheote, Mart. deceased, two miles
from Romsey, eight miles from Southampton, 14 miles from
Salisbury, and T 5 from London. -
The Mansion is an excellent and commodious -house, Plea-.
santly situate in the centre of the•property ; containing
ample
accommodation fora family of the,first respectability, andiie
in the
most perfect order for immediate occupation ; havinghavingi,tLa
and detached domestic and : other Offices of every description;
spacious and truly convenient.; with Kitchen Garden, Flower
oerden, Green-houses, Zite. &c. .The whole abundantly 'sups
plied with
.spring and. soft water. - The Ground's are diversified,
, in a highly orna-
and Pleasure Grounds abound with Amtrican and. other choice
and ornamented with stately Oak and otherttirieee.
trees.
directionT he In: wt
the
plants and shrtibs. The- Plantations have been laid out and managed with
s\Litrh,
agnredaatrseknilol
now of
vclirrieo,utsmagedewrsi-th 3
turnpike_roud,4;
mental as well as thriving and profitable state...
uotr :le
The carriage-drives through the park and plantations are gra-
velled fin. „reral miles, communicating
0.0:1.
. and in the
judicious interspersion ornamental shrub--
and sire, by the
ber rendered an extended pleat.:ure-ground, commanding
• views of the New Forest, Sonthainpton-water, and Isle of
,
I
. entrances..are tottage • odges, tastefully erect
At the generalposition. Within the , i .
eel in styles suiting their grounds are
dlNVistanTiglict,e.and other delightful scenery

WA RWICKSHIRE.
Umberslade Hall Estate, between Stritford-upon-A von and
~. Birmingham, inchiding the Mansion House and Offices, a
finely Wooded Park, and a Domain of 1,609 Acres of Land,
nearly in a ring fence, with Manorial Rights and Privileges,
extending over 10,000 Acres, Fishing, &c., and' free of
Tithes.—To be SOLD BY AUCTION, - by, Messrs.
ROBINS, at the Auction Mart, opposite the Bank, on
THURSDAY, July 21, at. Twelve o'Clock, in One Lot,
UMBE[tSLADE HALT, ESTATE,
1 presenting an unusually desirable Investment of Capital.
It comprehends the Mansion House, adapted to a family of
importance, and might easili be reduced to meet the Views,_ of
a smaller establishment, with all requisite attached and de-
tached Offices ; in the centre of a

• FINELY WOODED PARK,
of 265 acres; together with 12 compact Farms, lying exceed-
ingly well together, in the occupation of a respectable tenantry,
whese'leaieigat lowrentS) expire at !Michaelmas. The Domain
comprehends 1,610 ACRES
of very excellent meadov:, pasture, and arable land, together
with the Great and Small Tithes, extenairig over 1,169 Acres,
and •the Estate is flee of Tithes as it regardi Tam worth. Also
..
the Manor, extending over
' • 10,000 ACRES
of laud, with alt the rights, 'royalties, privileges, and inutu.
bright a character. The
nities thereunto appertaining, with fishery, &c. The rental,
excepting the few yearS when agriculture had put on so'itn-
•fityourabie an aspect, exceeded Three Thousand Pounds a
'lO Miles of Birmingham,
Year.; and it is 'twit too much to contemplate it similar receipt
andovwantlttaagtedsteeporn<nlsepeeteetdhawsitahssutirisedrsrooperty
oi.tismany
ild:80
apparent, that 'a recapitulation of them will not he attempted ;
aitrinPlPoffifeSettriVfoBYrti-ttliTyotnit-Ai4,vl'intl,tinThe Canal frtan the latter
place passes through the Estate; Game is abundant, and with
the adjoining' territory of Lord Plymouth's, is well preserved.
AI. is held annually, and a considerable income derivable
y six weeks antecedent to the
from this source. in.fine, it would I* difficult to suet All
adViflitage aertaining to other Estates, that is no antieny
conspicuon4 as it 'regartlx liiiA interesti!',g property ; nit may
wth'elaPhreintceiapal Inns at Birrnitighalii, Strat-
he safely affirmed, that it is in evetfegspect the most eligible
Warwiclt; the Auction. 3tart; of Mr.
Investment for Capital that has eel iwthe market during the
resetit-smson, . d .
rterhouse-sluare ;
i ,sailt.oyniPteittie:
rna,int,soetlideitilpilBirntiortdki:,aucdlaanirseldat
.aPd'in, enTent-garden,
where plans of the Estate 111:1, be seen.

V lOTON, com-
l.', CONTRACT,
of the MA NOR,
' YORKSHIRE,
K I REI,EA VINGTON, in CLEVELA ND, in the NORTH
• RIDING of the COUNTY of YORK.
to)TßAil,:o.lf.ta:t
i‘ViitiOAK;Eill,f,x
prb,ing five desirable Welt fenced Farms, cotitalnitig One
Thousand Acres, or•tbsreabouts, Of capital old rich Meadow', PagtUre, and Arable Freehold Land, with suitable Farin
71. rt RE°iPnit.()TlTsnEeBDoo)r Iffini4DA°rNie.'
BuildhigA, &-c. ; together with a Moietf of the Great and
Small. Tythet .(AT? 4,154 Aries•- a Lan, i,
Riricleivrngtori,'
and the adjoining Townships. of Castle Leavington, Pickton,

U -LET the.very Extensive QUA.R.RI ES of
7
A -A It it ROA TH' PAVEMENT, or FLA G.STONF;S.—
The Hon. WM. MAULE'S well-known -QUA RRItS at
CARMYLLIE, near the sea-port of Arbroath, N.ll. areto be
LET, for such a number of years as may be _agreed. on, with
entry on the 22d of November next. These Quarries produce
Slates, Flag-stones, Steps for Stairs, &c.. The stone is of a
beautiful grey colour, and of the finest grain; it cuts easily
with the'cliisel, and admits of a high polish ; it is extensively
used in London, Edinburgh, Glasgow, and Aberdeen,.and in
various parts of the kindom, particularly fbr the intericr of
houses, where it is valuable on account of its natural dryness,
as well as its beauty. The Quarries are easily worked, and are
quite inexhaustible,--there being upwards of 100 acres where
the stone is to be found close to the surface. It lies in beds
nearly level, and may be had of any given -size, and of any
thickness up to le inches. To persons of capital, and exten-
sive connection, these quarries would prove a source of im-
mense profit. 'Tlie-dernand for stone is increasing 'daily.; it
greatly exceeds the present supply, and the trade might he in-
creased to an extent almost unlimited.. The proprietor Is
disposed to deal on the most liberal 'terms. Specimens of
the stone may be seen at the following places, viz.:—ln
GlaSgoiv, at the Infantry Barracks ; in London, at 'the Wharf
of Messrs. Wake and Daniel, stone-merchants, Millbank-
street, Westminster; and at Mr. Hoare's Wharf, Wapping; in
Edinburgh, on the northwest side of Moray-place; and in
Leith, at the Yard of Messrs. Bell, Rennie, and Co., wine
merchanti there.—The small Farm,-named Slade and about
30 acres of another -.adjoining Farm, will be Let dl'on g with the
Quarries.
Apply to James Campbell, Esq., Solicitor. Prince-court,
Westminster; to MeSsrs. Fotberingham and Lindsay, W. 5..,
25, Heriot-row, Edinburgh; or to Mr. Collier, at -11Iaules-
bank, by Mitirdrum, the Proprietor's Factor, who lives within
a few miles of the Quarries.—Persons who wish to visit these
Quarries are requested to apply to Mr. Fairweather, Inn-
keeper, at Arbroath ; and to write to Mr. Collier a day-or
two before going, in order that a person may be ready to at-
tend them.
W

TI,FEJL. RESI ENC E. it) the Colinty
of:Ross,--:::ro be LET, Furnished or Unfurnished, :foi
a period of years, entry at Martinmas, 1825, the MANSION-
HOUSE of RED CASTLE, situated on the .licauly' 'Frith
with, Garden and Offices, along with such quantity of Ground'
as may be required. The Castle contains four public room,,
.and about a dozen of bed-rooms, besides ample accommoda-
tion for :tenants, all in a COM plete state of repair and Comfort.
There is an excellent range of offices ; and the garden, wh:ch
large and well stocked, is remarkable for the earliness and good
quality of the fruit it prodaces--reaches, nectarines, and yen
alniOnds, tinning to perfection without any 9 rtificiai heat. Red
Castle is situated on a promontory; bounded on bue side.by- the
Beauly Frith, and on the other by a park, -cOntaining a variety
of wood of all ages, and, from • its commanding• situation, af_
fords an admirable view of:the picturesqu'e scenery iv,flirivt stutrie...
rounds it. Distance from inVerness, ('our
mouth of the Caledonian Canal; three ; and
.froin Dih wall
seven. The exclusive right of shooting Oyer the 'whole Barony
of Red Castle, and Estate of Easter Kesaock, both aboUritling
in game,- and which, tdgether,consik of nearly- 4006 acres, 'will
be given to the tenant.
.„ , . •
For rent, and 'other particulars, apply-. to Richard Logan,
Esq., Agent for the, British Linen Company, at Inverness ;
or Low and Rutherford, W. S., 14, East Thistle-'street:'.Etlin-
burgh who are empowered to conclude a bargain.

C 0 It NW ALL
MINING (
CHAIRMAN-PETER
DEPUT Y,C
S. B. M. BARRET, Esq. M
DIREI

and , DEVONSIIIRC
:;OMPANr.
MOOR, Esq. ILP.

fIAIRmEN:
P. the Hort:lt. BINOHAM.
'TORS.
W. Newman. E q.
Hight lion. Viscount Palmer,.
Sir Jolla
Phijip
:HobAir. F. 'nwlett.
W. Reyhokls Rs'g.
eolonel Talt>fit, -1
Tho. Tgagv, El 4. ReAruth
?-'
W. L. Ogilby, Esq. Rob. Talbot, Es*.
W. Sim, Esq. W tN. '
SowclTOTiS—'Messrs. Watts arid ITtrbtkg.
• The Directors of this Company intbrip the PrneOetot*; that
a DePutatiob sbas left London tor eornwall and Devon*frlTe, to
Inspect the Mines belonging to the,o9l:npany ; a ttt ttotiiii the
return of the Deputation, the substancepl,t_4etr Uppostimill 1)1
communicated. WOOD s,et.
26, LOrnbard-street, June 6, 182.

W.. Aston, Esq.
Steph. N. Barber; Esq.
W. Cone, jun. Esq. Penzance
A. Denny, Esq.
The Right Honourable Earl
Donoughniore
John Orgy, Esq.
Sir W.'-Kay, Bart.
W. KtiShasv, Esq.

AUDI

TO BE SOLD BY .41.1etIt/N,
By Mr. SOTHEBY, at 110 /IbikSe, N. 1,
Street, Strand, on MONDAY; JitA 11,,44 four follcAving
Days, at Twelve o'ClOcl;.
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P47,KI4I.XNINT.

.44 For the Pitoti*EmNas of the HousE .of LORDS!, see
the Fourth Page.

'HOUSE OF COMI'IONS, TUESDAY, "' tiNE 7.
COMMITTEES ON PRIVATE BILLS.
114 r. LlTTlsETo44.eaiel, after the, numerous complaints of
the dolay, expence,'ind injustice of the delay arising out of the
zonetatt of Committeite on -Private Bills,. he thought: it high
erne to institute an,ieguiry as to how . far it was practiceble; to
femme the disadvantages at present existing in the practice of
l'..tese Committees, and •eritlethar view he would move the ate.
Ft: cement of a Select Committee to take into consideration the
constitution of Committees on Private Bills, and report to the
House their observitlons and opinion's thereon.- He- thought he
teeciald be able to propose a plan to the Committee which would
eo considerable way towards remedying the evils complained
ef ; het if his suggestions were not adopted, the Committee
wooled still have it iiu . their power to devise a remedy which
wnald have the effect of obviating the difficulties and delays to
which he had alluded.
Mr. S. BOURNE seconded the motion, and expressed his
epin'on that Private:Committees were, as at present constituted,
too numerous for any good purpose to result from their pro.
eeedings. He hokd the plan of the Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Littleton) might preveto be effectual, and that in future Com-
mittees would, in care and patient attention, a little .more re-
semble the Juries brought together to determine the rights 'of
their fellow-subjects; than they did-at present.
Sir I. COFFIN thought no Member of a Committee who
had not given his beet attention to the previous- evidence and
argument, should bevermitted vote in the decision. .
The motion was then agreed to, and.theCommitteeappointed
accordingly.
CORONERS OF IRELAND. -
Mr. S. RICE presented a petition from the Coroners of
counties in Irelendepeoying the revision of an Act .passed
in
the 3d of Geo. IV. respecting judicial officers in Ireland.
After an observation from -Sir- J. NEweonsr and Mr.-J.
Su its!, the Petition,was read. On the question that it be or,
tiered to be printed,
. Mr. S. RICE seid; 'his only reason for- notebringing in a
Pill to revise the statute in question, in compliance with the
prayer of the petition, was the lateness of the Session ; added
to this, he understood the dudes of the office of Sheriff in Ire-
land were at present under consideration of the Commissioners
of Inquiry, and he preferred waiting the result of their Re
pert previous to introducing the measure-he had alluded to.
The petition was then ordered to be printed. • ,
REGULATIONS
.OF THE CUSTOMS (IRELAND).
Mr. S. RICE presented a petition' from the Chamber -of
Commerce, Dublin, praying that the Bill for the Regulation.of
the Customs do pass into a law, and expressive of their satis,
faction at the appointment ,of coal-meters connected with the
Customs.—Ordered tube printed.
TIMBER DUTIES.
Sir H. PA RNELL presented a -petition from the Builders
of Dublin, praying the House to take the duties upon timber
into their serious consideration. The Hon. Baronet said, he
would take that opportunity of giving notice that he would, on
a future day, when the consideration of the New Customs Bill
afforded an opportunity for so doing, move that the proposed
. duty of 21. 10s. per ton on timber be reduced to 11. per ton,
the original amount of the duty.—The petition was ordered to be
printed.
PUBLIC WORKS AT BRIGHTON.
Mr. HUME moved for Returns of the Cash Accounts of
the Commissioners Of certain Public Works at Brighton since
the year 1810; also The amount of the receipts on account of
the coal duties in thht town, payable at the rate of 3s. per chid-
dron ; and the grois sum expended On public works since the
same period.—Ordered.
PIRATES HEAD MONEY.
Mr. CROKER moved the Order of the Day for the third
reading of the Bill fe discourage Piracy.e-:It was read a third
time and passed. "
FRIVOLOUS WRITS, OF ERROR.
Mr. Secretary PEEL rose to move for leave to bring in
a Bill, to correct the practice of Fictitious Writs of Error.—
The object of the Bill was to throw obstacles in the way of
future frivolous writs of error, and this was among the first
' fruits of the improvements intended to be adopted, and grow.
ing out of the increase of the salaries of the Judges, which
the House had a few eights age consented to. He need scarcely
to inform the IfOuee, that the effect of a writ of error was to
supersede the execution of a judgment in the Court of King's
Bench. It was Zees always granted on application, as a matter
of course. In the yearii 1817, 1813, and 1819, the number of
writs of error obtained in the Court of King's Bench alone, in
cases wherein judgment had been given, amounted to 1197.
. thet of those 1197,. there were 158 cases in which application
was merely made, the writ obtained, and no farther proceeding
alien. In 702 cases judgment had been affirmed ; in 336
the proceedings were abandoned by the party applying; and
cut of the whole 1197, there existed but nine cases, in which
ateitment was made before the Court above,_ and but one
instance in which the previous judgement of the Court of
King's Bench had been reversed. So that among all these
1197' writs of' error,. there were only nine melee in which They
'had been sued out to- any valid. purpose, and only one, as
lie had said before, in which the judgment was altered.—
'Wear, hear!)—He could not brit look upon the delay.
generally of twelve months, which thus occurred, as a most
'enormous grievanee...—( Hear f.)--:The Chief Justices of the seve-
rel Courts had been_entitled to the fees, upon suing out writs of
•erroy, but by substituting an increased salary for those fees, as
was lately done, ehefees now became the property of the pub-
lic ; and he thought the public could not do better than aban-
don their claim to Such unnecessary fees altogether in mos in-
sta eces. Under a Statute of JaMes I. a very salutary obstruc-
tion had been interposed to vexatious and frivolous writs, by
.requiring the appellant to enter into recognizances to the amount
of double the sum at issue. It would he the aim of the-bill he
should introduce to the House to produce the same effect. In
"all such cases the appellant must ie future sue out his writ of
error at his own peril, and give bail to prosecute the suit. He
meant this provision to apply to all Courts and cases in which
write of error were obtainable. The Right lion. Member con-
,cluded by movingefer leave to bring.in, a Bill to prevent the
,praetice of ruing out frivolous writs of error.—Leave given.
SHERIFFS IN IRELAND.
Mr. HUME presented a petition from the Rev. Henry Wil-
liam. Stewart, of the county of Cork, praying for an alteration
in the system of law.as far as it, related to the office of Sheriff in
Ireland.
Sir J. NEWPORT supported the prayer of the petition.
fIUME asked the Right Hon. Secretary opposite (Mr.
Peel) if it was theisitentioe of his Majesty's Ministers to take
aey steps in the case of a refusal on the part of a Sub-Sheriff to
answer interrogatories?
Mr. PEEL replied, that a bill bad been already introduced
for that purpose.
The petition was.then ordered to be printed.
BOROUGHS Or :BANBURY AND WEST LOGE:
Lord NUGENT said he was entrusted with petitions from
the boroughs of Banbury and West Looe, relative to the right
of election, and complaining of what they considered an unjust
usurpation upon that point. As the subject was one of consi-
derable importance, he would not present the petitions at pre-
crest, but give notic-of his'intentiOn to do so on Tuesday next.
• CORN LAWS. . .
Lend EBRINGTON presented a petition from ceetaineec.
eepiers of land at tfertiton,-in the county of Dei,on, praying for
a revision of the Corn Laws.---Laid on the table. •
clluilcg RA'I'LS (I BLAND). . •
. Sir J. NEWPORT brow fit up the "Report orthe Irish
'Church Rates Bake—The Bill was ordered *to-be read' retliird
tune on Friday: next.
- LUNATIC TRUSTEES-
Doctor =rEfILLIMORE breirght up the Report of the
Lenatic Trustees Bill.- The Report, with 'the amendments,
wee agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time on
Moeday next. . •
gCIAP' AND CANDLES.
r. SYKES roeeetepropOse a motion for the adoption of ifte`
House, respecting which he .had given a notice of some days
sianding. Lt was not, his intention,, by his present motion, to
disturb. the financiet.arrarigements of the Right H. Gentle-
man for-the presenttyear. He :was only anxious to be able to
say to his constituents on his return to the country, that he had
done something tbr.thegoed of the lower erders of the people..
It was true that theeletteeein wine arid spirits had been mate-
rially lowered, but einem did,not in the least affect the agrictil.'
turel population. They preferred 'a reduction of eaxation affect,
ing themselves, to that Which would only relieve those who
were wealthy enough to bear those itnpests for they dealt very
little, if at all, with articles which were only calculated- to give
them -red noses anti- bloated. bodiese---(Laughie.g.)—A clean
shirt and clean linen were with-them essential texuries, and
from those they were . frequently debarred by the very high
duties on anise) and candles. Whatever had been, done in
the way -ef• the reduction of duties, nothing had been sug-
gested .by -the- Right Honourable Gentleman (the Chancellor
of the Exchequer) .which tended to relieve the poor man..--
The poor were more affected by the tax on soap and candles,
than the rich pels* :could be. The actual price of a pound
of candles .sets only ftKir:pence, the -duty thereon -a penny,' and
yet every one knew that she effect •of-&e duty was' to increase
the price enormously 'to the ;consumer. It was, besides,, a
-most vexatious tax Id the collection.- The consequences were,
that the regular -trader; 'wild; paid duty; was driven dolt Of
, the- tudeket by the; ectn;rabaild who could always.
-afford iii seudecseU the fair dealer, touch, ie.l.pw the dee:pence

of duty. Together with this duty, that on tallow imported,
and, the duty upon barilla, the maker of soap was taxed to the
amount of 1201. per cent. on the article.' And, strange as•
it was to say, the smuggler) profit, though only about
.30/.
p_er cent. during the war, was at present 1001. per cent.—
Tbe conseqUence was, that' smuggling was carried, to such
an extent, that Government was defrauded of a' million
sterling in the article of :Soap only, and thq;fair trader was
driven out of the market, for he was unable to compete with the
illicit dealer in this article:. He could shew, that, with an in-
creased consumption, the duty had been on the decline as to its
amount; and he must subnilt, that it was not more than a de-
crease of 3250 lbs., which paid duty less in 1824 than 1823,- his
ease was made Out. Contrasting the years 1823* and 1824, he
felt himself authorised in saying, there would not be less than
twenty thousand tons of tallow consumed in the illicit manu-
facture, aid here he should observe, that twenty thousand tons
.of tallow yielded nearly forty thousand tons of soap, with the
barilla and other ingredients. Taking the duty at 281. per ton,
it would give 1,120,0001., of which it was clear the Government
would be defrauded, and the fair tradernt course must be
cheated to that extent; but if it were only half that amount, he
Contended that his motion deserved the attention of the Right
-Hon. Gentleman opposite. The duty on soft soap was but lid.
per pound; yet, this was in its principle a most impolitic duty,
because it was, to a great extent, returnable by drawbacks and
allowances to exporters. It only produced a gross 42,0001., of
which -14,000h:.at least was allowed as drawbacks. Now, he
contended, that it was impossible even to knock the smuggler
On the head, unless the Chancellor of the Exchequer reduced
the ant `5O per cent. In regard to candles, there was an
equal temptation to contraband-dealing. This tax, from the
Circumstance of the arts and chemistry having ministered so
very amply to luxury in the higher orders of society, by the
invention of go-light anti argand lain, hardly touched the
rich, and fell with an almost exclusive severity On, the poor.
Nay, so unjust- was its principle, that the nix pressed on the
Poor with respect to-the mere quality of the- catldle, the poorer
party, , using the dipped candle, paying at the rate of 12 per
tent. duty, whilst the richer, .usingalie'mouldi, paid only 10 per
Sent. In submitting his motion to the House, he felt both au-
thorized and encouraged by the ekrimple of one. Of -the most il-
lustrious patriots that the House ever had seen within its walls
tie meant the intimate friend of Milton, the celebrated An-
drew Marvel. He was anxious, like that great man, to stand,
well with his constituents, and apply himself to the attempt to
'relieve them from that sort of taxation which pressed partial.--
larlyon them.. It was that great man's habit to submit the
course of conduct he had pursued each night in the House of
Commons to' the approbation of his constituents at Hull, by a
post letter, and so grateful were they for his attention that they,
in the homely custom of the times in which they lived, returned
his solicitude and care in kind, by continual littlepresents, more
indicative of their gratitude than wealth, such as a large home-
made loaf and even a flitch of bacon, by the coach. He could
not follow the example of that illustrious man so far, but he
Made it a rule yearly, as he went down into the country, to ac-
count with those who sent him to Parliament, and he felt he
should not do his duty, or be able to face his constituents,
less he induced the House now, not to consent to a present re-
duction of the duties on soap and candles, or their total repeal,
but to induce the House to accede to his motion: " that it was
expedient that, as early as possible in the next Session of Par-
liament, or as soon as the state of our finances would admit,
the duties on soap and candles should be .greatly reduced."
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he would
with pleasure bear evidence to the Hon. Member's zeal towards
the interests of his constituents, in his attempts to revive the
good old custom of receiving from them th, well-earned reward
of his exertion, by a flitch or a gammon of bacon.—( Laughing.)
—He, himself, had no claim. on those• constituents in particular,
but if-the practice of the olden time were to be carried tato effect,
he certainly might-not be imagined sanguine if he thought it
probable, that in &short time he might find a few hogsheads
of good old wine in his- cellar; from the circumstance of his
having been accessary to procure for the public this article of
consumption at a much cheaper rate than formerly.—(A laugh.)
—To lie serious, he felt such an instance of the good will of
parties interested, was by no means- either desirable or politic.
—(Near !)—He premised, as his first obserVation, that this tax
or duty had been pretty much the same for the last one hundred
and thirty years, and in saying so, and expressing his inten-
tion to oppose the motion, he felt it wit; N ery unlikely that he
should receive as a testimonial of their kindly feeling, even a
flitch of bacon, from the Honourable Gentleman's constituents
this. summer.—(Laughing.)—He, however, had done some-
thing, and that through a conscientious -Motive only, in pro-
posing to the House reductions to, the amount of 1,500,000/.
in the regular taxation of the country, • together with many
small anti private reductions in taxation, which, though they
had added little to the receipts of the Revenue, were, however,
very prejudicial to parties engaged in the respective businesses,
on whom these trifling taxes fell with accumulated weight. if
this resolution were passed, he contended that it would have the
most prejudicial effect on the soap and candle manufacturers,
who would be left totally in a state of uncertainty, whether the
Howie would, next year, carry the resolution into effect or not.
What was the burden against which all the outcry had been
raised ? It was no more than a tax of one penny on the dozen
lb. which cost 45. -114 d. ; therefore, it was the addition of one
penrry-,to . that amount,. which he was sure could have nolo.
&lenge on the price of the article. In fact, the variation in the
price ot,candles bad nothing to do with the tax, as, in 1814,
the price of a dozen pounds was Its. 2d., while at the present
, day it wits no more than 4s. IlAcl., and during all that period
the tax was the same ; it was therefore pretty evident that the
tax did not regulate the price—but -if he were disposed to re-
duce the duty, he still must object to the present motion, on
Account of its being so inconvenient in form, and as being
likely to produce so much confusion. He should, therefore,
oppose the motion.
Mr. HITME said, that the argument of the Right Hon.
Gentleman
.was exceedingly fallacious; the tax added at least'
gifper cent. to an article which entered iota) the consumption of
the lowest classes of individuals, and one on which it was de-
sirable to fix the smallest price. Instead of candles being sold
at 4s. Hid. the dozen lb. or 40. the lb. as had been stated by
the Chancellor of the Eichequer, lie believed that it would be
found that they could not be procured under Bd. per lb.—the
Excise added 33 per-cent. in addition to the price of the material,
before it came to the market; the Excisealaus fell particularly.
, heavy upon tallow, and if it could be got rid of it would leasen
at once the price of candles by one-fourth ; by taking off' the
penny,it would reduce the price of candles from Bd. to sd. per
lb. The argument of his Hon. Friend could not be met ; if
the Eicise were to be taken off, every pohnd of soap and can-
dles used would pay the- duty, which made it desirable that it
should be removed, on the principle also that those taxes which
added to the price of the consumer ought to be first taken off.
Mr. Alderman WOOD wished to say a word or two in favour
of a class of persons -.whose interests had been overlooked—he
meant the miners—who worked under ground, night and day, by
candle-light, and who were, from the hardship of their- lives,
peculiarly entitled to the consideration of the House. It was
peculiarly hard on those people that they could not make candles
for their own consumption ; they were not allowed to do it, as
candles were an exciseable article. The tax ought to be repeal.
ed ; the country could very well affoid it, if it could afford to
give 6,0001. per annum to the Duke of Cumberland, in addi-
tion to his enormous grants and emoluments.
Lord A. HAMILTON' was desirous of saying a few words
on the subject, as he had presented a great many petitions re-
lating to it. The petitioners had volunteered to prove, before
any tribunal, that the tax was an unproductive one to the re-
venue, and-that it was a great- bonus. to the illicit trade. He
wished that his Hon. Friend had made his motion for the im-
mediate repeal of the taxes,- instead of deferring it till the next
Session.
Mr. lIERRIES remarked, that the argument of his Right
Hon. Friend, was, as to the impropriety and inmolicy of the re-
peal of those taxes now—and, if in die next Session, circum-
stances should admit of a further repeal of takes, it could not
now be stated with propriety-when the repeal t!ould take place.
.Mr.,SYKES replied.
Some further discussion aook place, in which Mr. N.-Calvert
Alderman Wood,. and- Mr. Monck, participated, but of
which (owing to the confusi'on arising from strangers having
been ordered to Withdraw) we could not catch the import,
. Tice motion was then negatived without a division.
'FICTITIOUS WRITS OF ERRf.YR.
Me.- Secretary PEEL beanglit in a Bill fpr ille. abolition of
)Fictitiorm Writ s of Error.'Right Ilon,,,,(lentlenian
that in moving, that it. tie read 'a lust time, lierveould only ob-.
serve, for the information of -those Gentlemen-who might not-
have been in the floi.tse when he:obtained, lesaie to bring in. the
Bill, that its object was to rostra d;t suing; out of frivolous
writs of error, for the marepirpoieS of delay.—( Hear, hear !)
The Bill was then reed a firstaime and ordered to be read a
second time on Friday nein -
IMPRISONMENT IN INDIA.
Mr. HUME said, that he moved, two years ago, for returns
of peradns confined by the several Governments of India, with-
out the form of trial, for reasons ef state policy, or other pre-
tences of the lake nature As the powers of arbitrary imprison-
ment was in all countries to be watched jealously, so there were
reasons which made it particularly desirable that there should
be strict limits put to its exercise in India. The peculiar cha-
racter of the country, and the defenceless state of the people—
their distance from the supreme Government —every thing
• tended to create objections' to the exercise of the power of im-
prisonment without first instituting legal proceedings. (The
Hon. Gentleman here made some allusion to a former debate,
in- which the Right Hon. Secretary of State for Foregn Affairs
had been understood to express a wish that there shOuld be a law
passed toprevent appeals- to the supreme Government from the
decisions of the Presidents in Council.) He considered that this-
observation of itself greatly aggraiated the dangers of abuse„
He did not say that Europeans had often been imprigerted

trarily;' but there could be no doubt that many natives of high
caste, must have suffered unclercircunistances of hopelessness and
solitude, to think upon which must be appalling to the minds of
free and enlightened Englishmen. At all events, if expediency re-
quited the possession of such a power, or policy called it into use,
thegreates t precaution s would be necessary for itsgeneral controul.
He concluded by moving for returns of all persops imprisoned
by the Governors in Council of thee-several Presidencies of
Bengal, Madras, and Bombay, without the institution of ju-
dicial proceedings,)and without a verdict obtained against
them; distinguishing the number in each government in each
year ; the time, place, and all other circumstances of their ac-
tual imprisonment; the causes which induced the govern-
menti thereto, the periods of confinement, and the age, sex,
and rank of the parties.
Mr. WYNN said that the Returns were,incompletefor Ben-
gal, which was the most considerable presidency, though for
the others they were made-up. He agreed in the principle of..
the Hon. Gentleman, that the power of arbitrary iMprisonment,
ought to be rarely exercised, and that it shotald be carefully'
watched. But there were circumstances which made it im-
possible for the Government to do without it in India. Indivi-
duals might, in consequence of the wars in which they .were
engaged occasionally with the natives, and other political cir-
cumstances of a threatening and disturbed nature, be subjected
to restraint or actual imprisonment from the necessity of the
case, without -any reference to their guilt or innocence. The
sons of Tippoo Seib were under the strict observation of Go-
vernment. He could easily conceive :reasons which would
make it indispensably necessary to restrain their liberty,
though he was not aware of an offence-which could be imputed
to them. He had no objection to the motion, though he did
not believe that the returns would furnish any good grounds of
'complaint against the resident governments.
Sir C. FORBES wished that the Hon. Gentleman had also.
moved for copies of all the :lien-tone's forwarded by such pri-
soners through the channels of the Indian Government to the.
Court of Directors here: In many cases these memorials had
been withheld as he himself knew in the case of the Rajah of
Adnapoor, who had cent three Memorials to the Court of Di-
rectors, neither of Which had been received. If this were done
in one case, no. doubt it was done in 'many otherti. The Go-
vernments of India did not wish to have:their conduct inquired
into here... The more frequent the corriplaints from India, the
better; as it would urge upon the House. the necessity of in-
lfoiry. He bad on a former occasion" felt regret at. the opinions
which fell from the Right Hon: Gentleman (Mr, Canning) then,
President of the lkiard of Controul, as-to the necessary controul
which ought to. be exercised by the Indian Government over
natives of rank and influence. He trusted, however; that Par-
liament would do aemething to abede the evil.
Mr. Secretary CA NN ING.—".I, Sir,, should not have of-
fered one word upon this subject'ditl it ,not appear to sue that
I have been quoted during my absence; and, as far as I
have the means of judging, as incorrectly as the charges made
in my presence certainly are. I confess, Sir, I do not recog-
nise as mine any of the sentiments imputed to me,. and now
that I inn reminded of the circumstances alluded to, I must say
that not only are they nothing like those which have been stated
but quite the reverse. The case before the House upon the oc-
-casion referred to was,.that of European bankers who had made
loans to Native Powers in. India ; and an attempt. was made
to get the Supreme Government to interfere with the Native
Powers in behalf of these European ;Bankers. And the opi-
nion that I put forward then was, that the Supreme Govern-
ment ought not to interfere in respect of these loans, which
were made in defiance of the Law, there being actually a law
prohibiting such loans. This, Sir, is my opinion still, and ever
has been • for I consider that all the disgrace, and all the scan-
dal brought upon the British name in that quarter of the globe,
have been effected by loans made to Native Powers by Euro-
peans.—(Hear, hear !)—llow then, Sir, could I, with such feel-
ings, have cone otherwise than discountenance the inter-
ference of the Supreme Government, whose interference with
Native Powers, it is well known, is command and extortion ?e—
-(Hear hear !)—lf one rupee of such loans be still owing, 1
wish that my voice may reach to India to dissuade the Native
Powers from paying it—to let them know that the debt was
contracted illegally, and that they cannot be compelled to pay
it.— (Hear !)—Now, Sir; having stated the course which. I took
when the question was before the House, I leave you to judge
whether I have been fairlyrepresented in my absence. I know
not to which of the two Hon. Gentlemen I am indebted for the
misrepresentation. I find some difficulty in ascertaining that,
there seems to be such a community of interest and feeling
between them. One Hon. Member did not even know whether
'the paper was in his own- pocket, or in the. pocket of the other.
—(A laugh.) —They remind me, Sir, of the friendship of the
two Gentlemen in the Spectator, who were of one opinion, had
but one idea, one'religion, and one hat I"—(Much laughter.)
The two fron. Gentlemen, Mr. II tralE and Sir CHARLES
Fonnns, rose together, and endeavoured to speak at the same
moment, amidst the continued laughter of the House.
Sir CHARLES FORBES explained. He had only attri-
buted to the Right Hon. Secretary, that when he went to India
he would no doubt find it convenient to carry such a-taw as
that4lluded to in'his pocket. For his own part he had never
been concerned in any loan to a Native Power. He could eel.,
tainly have no objection to the wiehes of the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman delivered in such a thundering tone.
Mr. HUME contended that the Right Hon. Gentleman had
completely forgotten the part he had taken upon the occasion in
question.. Ileeliad said no more in his absence than he had said
before id: uncontradicted, He might probably
wish to forget :the sentiments lie had formerly uttered. The
complaints of the oppressed in India were less attended to than
they should be by the Government.
Thelnotion was then agreed to. -
Mr. HUME then moved for Copies of al,l Memorials or Re-
presentations km' the Governor or Governors of, India relative
to the employment of Hindoo-Britons, or Half-Castes, as
Jurymen.
Mr. WYNN did not object, and the motion was agreed to.
HALF-CASTES. . •
• Mr. HUME moveittOr a Copy of the Minute of Connell of
the Marquis of Hastings in the year,lBl7, .xelative to the em-
ployment in Constitutional Offices of the Hinnoo-Britons. He
understood there would be no opposition' to. the production of
the paper.
Mr. WYNN said, he had told the Hon.. Member some time
ago, that there was an objection. He had not been able to find
any minute ofthe nature moved for by the-Hon. Member, and
the notion therefore would be useless as it now stood.
Mr. HUi%ll said, he would withdraw the motion till he
could furnish further particulars.
REV. MR. BRYCE.

Mr. HUME snored for a copy of . the minute by which the
Rev. Mr. Bryce, Scotch Presbyterian Minister, was appointed
Secretary to the Committee of Stationed- He also moved for
a copy of the duties of the office, and of any correspondence
that had taken place on the subject. The appointment itself
was a most improper one ; it was not sanctioned even by Go-
vernment here, and it was for opposing it that Mr. Bucking-
ham had been sent out of the country. It was necessary, there-
fore, that they should know the particulars of it, especially as
Lord Amherst persisted in keeping him in office.
Mr. WYNN thought no grounds had been laid for the pro-
duction of the papers moved for. The appointment had cer-
tainly been disapproved of by the Government in this coun-
try, and directions sent out to that effect. Delay had occurred
in the execution of ihose•directions, and fresh ones had. been
dispatched.
Mr. HUME contended, that the grounds of opposition of the
Right Hon. Gemlemany were only so many reasons for their
having the documents'. before them in order to form their own
judgment.
Sir C. FORBES thought that good grounds had been laid
for the motion.

Mr. DENAIAN NU pported the motion. When there appeared
a difference of opir.ion between the Government in India and
the Gevernment of this country, there was, lie thought, good
ground for an Hon. Member to move that the documents be.
laid before the House He was surprised that his Hon. Friend
was not allowed to withdraw his motion, and hoped the House;
upon division, would grant the motion.
Dr. PH ILLIMORE observed, that•the Hon. Member could
not be permitted tA2 withdraw. his motion.; because he would'
bring it forward again. The Hon. Member was never more
Mistaken in his life, than when he said that Mr. Buckingham
was sent away from India merely for leaving opposed the ap-
pointment of Mr. Bryce. He wets sent away for a series of
aggressions, and was, in fact, frequently threatened by the Mar-
quis of Hastings.
Mr. THANT supported the motion. . • • • •
The House then divided—

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For the motion
Against it . • ,
Majority against the motion.
THE COURT OF CHANCERY.
Upon the admission of stranger,: into the gallery, we found
Sir F. BURDETT on his. legs., moving "That an humble
Address be presented to hiS majesty, praying that orders may
be given that the evidence taken by the Commissioners appoint-
ed to inquire into the practice of the Court of Chancery, be laid
before the House."
dlr. Secretary PEEL said he rose to oppose the 'Honourable
Baronet's motion; solely upon public
_grounds. The question
was not a party question; :Ana he ahottld only ,treatit as it in-
volved the public interest. It must be considered that the
time would come when. the:.whole would be laid without reserve
before the House. There could be no resonable objection to
wait until this period, when the House would have the advan-
tage not only of , the evidence, but of.the report containing the
opinion of the.Connissioners. Helms ready to admit, that
the opinion merely, .witliout.the ,evidence,, would 110 be-satis-
factory ; but when bUtlywere joined, they would afford the
Very ;14cst,matcrials for the House to- decide upon.. :The Com-
missioners would have concluded their labours before the next

Session of Parliament, and the subject.would then come fully
under consideration. It was without precedent for the House
of Commons to ask the Crown to produce the evidence
taken -before the _Commissioners, without the Report con-
taining their opinion. Such a course he would consider
as an- unnecessary interference- of the .House, by which no
public object could be advanced. He felt a decided objection
to have a portion of the evidence produced, because subsequent
evidence may counteract the impression which should be creat-
ed by the former evidence. Under all the, circumstances, it
inustbe admitted that no public- neasure.coulti he founded
upon die production of the evidence Moved by the Han. Batt.,
without the Report of the Commissioners. The Comthissioners
had already sat no less than 70 times, and bad examined 45 Wit-
nesses. Some time must elapse before the evidence could be
_presented to the House. It would take the House some time
to digest it, and at this period of the Session its production
could not lead to any-measure of practical utility. Besides, to
publish the evidence without the ;report would prejudice the
measures intended to be suggested by the Commissions. In
thus opposing the Hon. Baronet's motion, he freely admitted
the importance of the measure, and disclaimed; upon his
honour having any intention to prevent the. fullest inquiry.—
He strongl hoped that an efficient remedy may be discover-
ed for the delays complained of in .the Court of Chancery.—
This he said, without an intention of throwing blame upon
any, individual, or admitting that any individual was-respon-
sible for the evils complained of. As an honest man, he thought
some inquiry was necessary, and felt pleasure in anticipating
that the House would be in possession at an early period of the
whole evidence, together with an ample Report. Indeed, he
was one of those who thought the subject was of such impor-
tance- and extent that it- should. have been presented to the
House in branches. He had that day personally communicated
with an individual who was supposed to be peculiarly concerned
in this inquiry. He said supposed, because it did not ap-
pear to him that the Lord Chancellor, to whom he alluded, was
particularly interested ; but that Noble Lord had unqualifiedly
concurred with the House in the necessity of an inquiry, andstias
strongly of opinion that some remedial measure might he agreed
upon ; and that a full Report would be ready to, present before'
Parliament again assembled. In his (Mr. Peel's) opinion, it was;
better to wait for this and see the result: He apprehended that
it must be three weeks before the evidence could he printed and
he repeated it was impossible to adopt any practical remedy at
this period of the Session. Another objection was, that if the
House consented to the Motion, it would be a practical superceS-
sion of the Commissioners' labours. The Commission was coins
posed of individuals who had employed much time in the con-
sideration of this subject. In. the months which had elapsed
they had seventy sittings, and examined forty-five witnesses.
The inquiry was conducted in the most open manner, and
everyone who conceived himself in possession 'of any intents's--
tion was allowed to be examined, without reference.to the.effect
of such evidence upon any person or party.—( Hear !_)—The
-House should pauie before they pasSed this indirect censure
-upon individuals employed diligently and actively in the public
service. Such a line of conduct in his (Mr. Peers),,opioion
would rather prejudice than promote the intentions of the
House, anti on these grounds'he felt bound to give his reluc-
tant opposition to the Hon. Baronet's motion.
Sir FRANCIS BUItDETT said this subject had long
been under the consideration of the House, and he thought
it most important that Honourable Members should be
put in possession of all the information which could be
had on it. His object was, not to waste another year
without applying some remedy to the crying evils connected
with the Court of Chancery. He did not impute blame to the
Commissioners, but he believed that Commission was com-
posed of individuals having other duties incompatible with
their full attention to this inquiry. He did not consider such a
Commission likely to produce much good, when it was consi-
dered that the Lord Chancellor was at its head, who had been
sitting so many years in the Court where the evil was growing,
which required a remedy, and which that Noble Lord, lie dared
to say, !.considered no evil at all. After considering attentively
what had fallen' from the Right Hon. Secretary, he (Sir F.
Burdett) could see no reason for withholding the evidence from
the House. He thought it must be desirable that the public
mind should be turned to the subject. He understood the Com-
missioners were greatly restricted in their jurisdiction,. and he
confessed himself of opinion that their report could not be con-
sidered as matter of public interest, although the evidence taken
before them should be considered matters of much interest. The
evils arising ou t of the practice in the Court of Chancery wereof
such magnitude that all classes were-concerned in them. There
was no family Which had not felt the delays already alluded to
by-the Right Hon. Gentleman in terms so creditable to himself.
'1 he evil was so notorious that there was little necessity for the
opinion of Commissioners. It was the duty of the House of
Commons to find out a remedy for an evil whit' was growing
more destructive every day. It was well known that the Court
of. Chancery had grown up in an extraordinary manner, and
was not founded upon constitutional principles anti practice like
the Courts of common law. The proceedings, too, were different
from these of the Courts of common law, which were founded
upOn common sense. He thought the evils of the Chancery Court
would be greatly diminished if the proceedings could be asstd.
milated to the practice of the Courts of Common Law—if oral
testimony should be accepted instead of that worst kind of
evidence—affidavits ; lie did not mean to suggest the absolute
exclusion of documentary -evidence, but to :abolish the system
Of accepting only the worst kind of evidence when the best
was at hand. Under the present system of practice, however
desirous and anxious the Lord Chancellor may be to admi-
nister speedy justice, he had not the means. If the situa-
'Sion of. Lord Chancellor was burthened with ma many duties,
let-the business be divided amongst as many Judges, as should
be necessary, but let us not be obliged to pursue justice through
such dilatory, ruinous, expensive • courses. There were many
evils cOnnected with this Court, and arising from it. He should
only allude to the appointment of Commissioners of bankrupts.
There could be no worse tribunal than a Commission of Bank-
taPtc.V. There were seven Judges under the title of Bankrupt
Commissioners. This system was a cause of ruinous litigation
_and Oxley, as well as fraud, with which Bankrupt Commissions
are known to abound. There were 70 places given to young
barristers who had obtained no professional eminence, as a
thing to begin with. This Was a matter of patronage for
the Lord Chancellor; and it would be observed, that.
the situations were not -given to; those. best tionlified, nor
With the View which ought to direct in such appointments.
Leaving these details, he was at a loss to see what mischief
could arise from the production of the evidence. It was the
duty of the House of Commons, and lie hoped the next sessiOn
would not pass without the discharge of this ni,*fl
to inquire not
only into the proCeedings of the Court of Chance: v,
.:d into
but also
a,
into the proceedings in the Courts of Common Law,
the general administration of justice. lie understood the pru-
ceedings were more, expensive in Courts of Law than they were
in Courts-of Equity. His' (Sir. F. Burdett 's) object was only to
put the country in poSsession of all the information which could
be obtained. The 'evidence, and not the Report, was material ;
and as great mischiefs had confessedly arisen from delays, he
hoped the Right Hon. Secretary (Mr. Peel)' would change his
opinion, and allow-the papers to be produced,' which he (Sir F.
.Burdett) expected to hive been ordered as a matter of course.
Mr. HURST expressed himself strongly in favour of the
motion. The delays in,Chancery were; he observed, most op-
pressive. In a suit in which he was engaged, and, which he
eventually succeeded in gaining, be was obliged to pay 81.173.6 d.
for every. 10/. herecovered.—(Hear !)
Mr. NV. SMITH said, that when his father was on his death-
bed, hn had called him to say, that the Chancery-suit, in which
lie was so long engaged, had tertrinated last week, by the death
of his opponent. Now this suit had lasted for two and thirty
years.—(H ear; hear !)
Mr- Secretary PEEL thought the Hon. Baronet was mis-
taken as to the extent of the. Commissioners' jurisdiction. -He
(Mr. Peel) had no objection to lay before the House a copy of
the Commission. If the,licin, Baronet 'renewed his motion at
the commencement of the Session, he (Mr. Peel)".Would be dis-
posed to take a different view of it. As to the. anxiety, of Mini-
ster's to attend to the administration of justice, it was evinced

• _
by the introduction of an Act which would be' brought before
the House that evening to regulate the issues of triVial/erits
of error.' : • .
Mr. PENMAN highly applauded the Right Hon. Gentle-
man for the Bill to which he had alluded. .• fle hacVnaddubt of
It being one of a series which highly benefit the-country. But
it was .to remedy an evil farm-it:ly well known and extensively
felt. Now the grievances of the Court of Chancery.were of this
kind ; and therefore it was they asked to have some immediate
steps taken upon the subject. It was the. House of Commons
that must work any good in this business after all. The Com-
Mission, consisting ea number
.of Gentlemen who, sparsim,
as it were, for an hour or two, stolen from other avocations,
met together to consider _of this matter. They had now been
sitting fifteen months, and there was no prospect of a Re-
port. The evidence certainly ought to be before that House.
A respectable Solicitor had stated, that when an order of
Court was drawn up, it was not - to .award• the patties their
rights, but to pay in part the costs of the solicitor. He was not
aware what difference there Was between furnishing evidence
to the. House from Commissions and from Committees up
stairs. Last year the Insurrection Act for Ireland was founded
altogether on.the partial evidence of a Committee, and if the
production of the examinatiOni 'before the Chancery COnlrnis-
sion only led the public gradually to understand • the practice
and abuses of that Court, it would do great good. He might
also observe, that he underatood there. was now a Committee
sitting up stairs on the Combinations, and that althodgh the
evidence of the masters had been .cAref'ulfy taken, yet, that the
evidence of the mein in their own justification had not been.re-
ceived and, 'notwithstanding a law was to be introduced on
the testimony of one class --toflwitilesses.-('Cries • -of No,
he. was very glad to hear the .rutnour con-
tradicted from so good a source. He would, however, insist,

that if any thing showed the public where a remedy was, to Ire
found for the evils of the Court of Chancerv, the evidence
before the Commission would have that effect, and from

the public only had he any hope of seeing the grievance
redressed. He had abstained from all . personal allusions
to the Noble Lord at the bead of the Court; but he could
not,avoid' saying, that in that House there appeared an extraor-
dinary tenderness in speaking. of
,that sited individual, and
from them, therefore, he had a very tri * anticipation the re.
medy would proceed. But without, say i ny personal fault
attacled to t!:e Lord Chancellor,_ he might • te, that on the
first day of last Michaelmas term there were.lls causes in his
Lordship's paler; and that the same 45 causes remained itt
the paper on the last day of that term,—(Hear, hear!)-not
one. of them having been touched in the. interim, although
each of the plaintiffs and each of the defendants, if ten or
twenty in number, had to pay, One poimd, 'for •each day. their
cause stood in the paper. Such was not a way for. public.
justice to 'remain in. It might he said that business was now
chiefly disposed, of by motions, hut. of that course •he. (Mr;
Denman) disapproved as ,tending to create a:prejudice itv the
mind 'of the Judge, and preventing that full discussion which_
was requisite. He did not wish to. say any thing harsh of the
Noble Individual in- question, thOugb God knew he had no,
dis Position to lavish compliment~. in that quarter; but all we
knew of his conduct was, that'.foi 25 years that he witnessed
the practice in Chancery, he made no attempt to reform it. He
should support the motion of the Hon. Baronet, the Member
for Westimnster. The fact that the Bight Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Peel) had seen the Lord Chancellor in the course of the
day. would give no confidende to the public in the groundi on
which the present demand was resisted.
Sir, PEEL, in explanation, satd, 'that he only saw the Lord
Chancellor fOr the purpose of ascertaining the probability of
the CoMmissioners making a report at an early .period. His
Lordship had.= the slightest objection to their making a • re-
port as soon aspossible.—(lJ ear !)—The report would and ought
-to be made before the next Session of Parliament.

P.coutrEN A Y thought the Commission would bring
their labours td a more successful issue than was anticipated
by the other aide Of_ the Muse. for.one had nererdenied
the existence Of delays and abuses in Chancery, and that they.
ought to be, remedied. He had at the same time .resiested the
appointment of Committees of that House to inquire into the
subject, hecause he was convinced they were not competent to .
redress the grievance. The complaints theewere made showed.
that remedies must be applied to particular-parts—nor was it till
this Session that it was said the whole system of Equity ought
to be swept away. The Commission appointed last year was
if any thing of
,more extensive bounds than those proposed for
the Committee. demanded by the Hon: and Learned Member
for Lincoln. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman then read the
title of. the Commission which he 'condeiVdd embraced as-ex-
tensive a view of the subject as words couldexpress. It also
went to ascertain whether any part of the buSiness- of Chancery.
might be withdrawn and submitted to other tribunals, particu-
larly the hearing bankrupt cases. The CommisSioners
.had
also fully gone the length of their .powers and invited the first
testimony, and he therefore saw no ground for the assertion oL
the. Hon. and Learned Gentleman, that no confidence ought to
be placed in the Commission. The Hon: Gentleman here
read an extract from a .Work of Mr. Miller's on the Court o_
Chancery, in which the superiority of the system established
there over that of the common Law Courts was referred to the
later period at which it was introduced,• and the more Intel-
ligible phraseology employed. The passage went' on to say,
that the only detects arose from the technical 'subtleties intro-
duced in a refined age. These were the errors he (Mr. C.) ad-
mitted, and wished to see reformed. The Hon. and Learned
Gentleman proceeded to argue, that instead of the system being
bad, the people of the United States, who were our great rivals
in commerce and freedom, adopted it as the best which could
be devised. 'ln corroboration of this opinion, he read a pas.
sage from a book written by a Chancery lawyer of New York,
in which the Earl of Eldon was eulogized as an ebb; and deep-
thinking Judge, and the system of English Equity highly ex-
tolled. The practice of the Court was in short the only part of
it which needed reform, and the Coniniiesion was best qualified
to recommend the necessary emendations. Under these cir-
cumstances the House would say whether any advantage would.
be gained by withdrawing the duty entrusted to the Commis-
sion, and proceeding with it themselves. The House ought to
see what opinion the Commission came to before they declared
it unworthy of all confidence ; and the character of the Ccmi.:
mission 'was, he thought, a sufficient guarantee against their
becoming the willing instruments of delusion.—(Hear !)
Dr. LUSHINGTON should. votelor the motion of the lion.
Member for Westminster, because he considered great benefit
would resnit from giving publicity to the evidence. By that
means the subjects would be discussed, and the Commissioners
themselves be more likely to arrive at; the end they had in
view—a just decision. The great bulk of the evidence lie, as
one of the Commissioners, could state, was now taken, and
written out, and might be laid, on the table ri a very short
time, nor would the publication of the evidence be injurious
to the public. The objects to be attained were tlneei—to see
that the system of the Court of Chancery was good—that the
practice was good—and that the Judge who presided was a
good one. The first was not in the province of the Commis-
sion ; but the second expreesly was, and the third incide4tally
came under its consideration; and would necessarily be adveieed
to in the Report. He was also certain, that when the time cams
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hisitpsonlliteictriabl eollpivinioounls.d fiwi
were
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ktheir :duty.lll
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neitherim -
favours past to be grateful for, nor favours. in future .to hope,
and if he found any opposition from..any quarter to a full and
fair prosecution of the inquiry, lie should state it openly to the-
House. Having said this, he should next mention, that al-
though the Lewd Chancellor was at the head of the Commission,
he stated at the outset that he should not attend duringthe ex-
amination of the witnesses, lest his presence should obstruct
their free examination; but. that' afterwards he should assist
and furnish any explanations and information in his power.--
He (Dr. Lushington) should also admit, that they could not as:
yet have made their Report, without its being.most imperfect..
An unavoidable delay was occasioned by the illness of the Vice-
Chancellor, which was, however more than compensated by the
advantages which the ennmissioncis subsequently derived from
his Honour. He hoped the House would accede to the present
'motion, which would do a great deal of good and no evil.—
Points of difficulty and discrepancy in- the evidence would be
elucidated, by their being submitted to the public. .
Mr. LOCKHART should have supposed that the conclusion
at which the Honourable and Learned Gentleman' who juste
sat down ought, to have arrived at, would be the reverse of
that he had' avowed. The facts lie mentioned proved that t
Report ought rather to be delayed than granted. The moment
the evidence was published it would be debated in that Houses
and the judgment of the Commissioners themselves be there-
-1)y
7.URST explained:
warped. He should oppose the.motion. • .
11
authority 7t,Ay -flYbißiCse.;R?nAgl 1::,1
*hat no inconvenience would be Mr by
accedi to the motiOrrs::".
conceived they had the bight.
great advantage would be I,::,coneequence. It
Publishing the evidence,
_ thattotre
public in his opinion that they could . • -eight therefore to
of the Court of Chancery, and the public .
' on the sub-
be put in possession of all the information possibiw 4 -tt
e
ject., As to the Lord Chancellor, no . man when he ...
alone look forwaasßeforoe
gave more satisfaction 'or ever brought greater qualification!.
the duty—but the complaints in the Petitions which had bees
from time to time,presented to that House was of the delays. re-
suiting from the'llianner in which the Earl of Eldon disposed'
of the business before him The grievance of the charge woe'
the inconvenience arising from, having
,causes placed in the
paper postponed from day to day to the great expence of the
parties. Days, weeks, he might say 'years, were thus wasted,
and he wished some' Hon-. Member would move to have theme
papers for a certain 'period laid before the, House, that the-
names on them might he compared.e-(Hear !)—The system in
this way got into discredit Which it did not deserve. Neither
could lie avoid complaining of the manner in which the coot-
mission was composed, nor'ef the delay now required before the"
Report would be laid on the table. .If the House wished to act
with sincerity, it would accede to the motion, which .had his
Cordial support,:
Sir M. W. RIDLEY rosefor the purpose of replying to alt.
assertion whichhad been made.kiy the Hon... Member for 'NO"
tingham (Mr. Denman) respecting the Combination Laws. He
:said there had been a greater number- of men than of. masters
examined. He recommended that the attention of • this House
should be directed, not only to the Cetirt of Chancery, but ,t 0
the other Courts of ),:quity, and particularly to the Court of ES'
chequer, which required at least as much reforrh. The Hone..
Member, alluding, to the sketch which had been drawn of thr;
character of Lord Eldon, Witliams'a Book, read.an ee-
tract from a number of the Idiiiktrgh Review, in which Lori
Eldon's professithial attainniente and the qualities of his min. •
were spoken of in term's of high commendation.'
Mr. JAMES considered the. Court. of Chancery not as °I
Court of Equity, but a Court of Robbery.:—(Hear! and * •
-
BROUGHAM could have wished that some Hon. MeroA" •
lhaeuilrgilihrad.attempted to answer the observations of his Hon. 107
Learned Friend the Member for Caine (Mr. Abercromby), but
nothing. of the sort had been. undertaken. As to the -11°°'
Baronet (Sir M. W. Ridley),' it was' only natural that, eon"
'fleeted as he was to the leoidChancellor, he should have fl;
pressed himself in the terms the House lately heard, which. •
were most creditable- "no' his heart and feelings. There 'sal
in short, no Man more amiable than the. Earl of Eldon—not
that he (Mr. Brougham) had the felicity to speak from a
vete- acquaintance with the Noble lord—but front his obser" ,
ration of his 'conduct on thealench—which exhibited tuivarY,:
ipgcourresfto all, and forl which lie equalled, if not exeelle",
any other Judge in the-country. •Thia led him.(lllr. Brotlghawi
to remark, that •whenever -any man felt it his deity- W SP",;"
harshly of the judicial conduct of the Lord Chancellor, he le'