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' triciti of the 'Cotidnet of liis foike-i; and ha
riot., in this instance' depart from the line
• out by Sir H. Burrards *hose sense of ho.-
te Ili and noble noel had prompted him only to de-
Sire that he might beatoWthe laurel on the head that
had earned it. Alf the military merit Of this cam-
,• paign, was exclusively Sir A. Wellesley's, and, this
Wits notthe first instance in which the House were
balled on to vote an approval of his gallant and dis-
tinguished condud. He bad commanded a darv,er
`army than: that with which he conquered at
Weil, and the battle of Assays, with the unin-
errupted
.display of the most excellent military ta-
lents throughout an, Indian campaign, bad quail-
lied him in an eminent degree for the trust there
'reposed in him. Military experience had ensured
him that success, which ever accompanied his bril-
• taut career, and he carried with 'him the confidence
ot the House as well as the ellthUSlB6M of •the army.
As far as depended on their General, they were
the moat eft-calve that •- ever took the field,--they
'did not know What want was, and they were,
ac-
tuated by only one feeling, from . the gallant: Gene-
al who was second in command to the meanest
drUMMer in the, army— that there never was a
Commander more likely to lead them to victory, or
WhOM they would follow wherever he would lead.
lie thought this was one of the 1111'01167Ciit cases ever
made out, to entitle a General to the ,honourable
testimony of his valour and good conduct,which was
bestowed by the Vote of Parliament, and concluded'
by moving a Vote of Thanks to Sir A. Wellesley,
and the officers and men under his command, for
the skill, discipline and bravery displayed on the
. 37th of August, in forcing the French posts, and on
! • the Nast, at the battle of Vitniera.
Mr. H. AnomoroN warmly supported 'the mo-
tion, which he was convinced, if .submitted to the
Nation at large, would be carried 'by acclamations.
The facts spoke 'lor themselves. From the cone
tinnation of a military career so brilliantly began,
and so gloriously followed up by Sir Arthur Welles-
ley, what might not the Nation ultimately exped ?
.• Whether as the avenger of hie own Country's
wrongs, or the protector of another Country, from
violence and oppression, every thing might be lobk-
, ed for from that patriotic ardour, that firm deCision,
And that calm intrepidity, by Whieh the gallant
Officer is question had been distinguished.
Lord FoeesToNe, after distinctly disclaiming all
personal hostility to the gallant Officer whose.con
duct was the subject ofthe motion before the House;
proceeded to contend; that the action to which that
motion' referred, was not composed of the ingre-
chews necessary to entitle it to a.'Vote of Parliament-
ary Thanks.---To entitle any transaction to such an
honour it was indispensable, first, that it should be
scene great exploit; and secondly, that some good
consequence should result from con-
ceived that this action partook of neither of those
necessary qualities. In the first place, the British .
were superior in numbers, they having t Giotto men
in the field, while the French had not above 13,000,
making a 'superiority of 3000 British -troops,,.ex-
elusive of 1600 Portuguese. So much for the ex,
plait itself. Witt( respect to the consequence of it;
that consequence was an armistice, which led to a
Convention, of which it would betenoush at present
to say, that his Majesty, inhis Speech to the:House
bad spoken in terms of strong disapprobation. Under
this impresssoe he 'could not vote with the.Nohle
Lord. It, however, be had acceded to, the Noble
Lord's proposition, he should certainly have consi-
dered that it Sir'll. Surrard -entertained the ;,just
feeling ascribed to him, 'it would be an :migrate.;
fret retern to exclude him from the Thanks of the
House. .. •
Mr. THEiMANTLB, in an elegant and 'animated
speech, supported the motion. He• gave the Noble
Lord credit forhis assertion, that he-bad uo personal
Aeastility to the distinguished Officer, to whom he
Amsted the House-was about to express its warm mid
gratelt4. feelings ; •hm he 'certainly appeared to en-
tertain considerable; hostility agelest the opinion. of
Abe Country-at, large. With ,le.spen to theltaien
itself, never was there a more splendid and honour
sable achievement ; and_ the. wdvole coarse :of .Sir
A. wenefavy.s.63iiitary cilreerhad :been s such, .l as
entitle,hifn to the,tuieualifial approbation of his
Country. -
Mr. Beeeneono rose and said, be 'bore tee=
timony to the gallant and skiltul. melee of ;Sir
A. Wellesley,; and complained of' the unexampled •
treatment 'which he had received, •on his arrive' t. 1.22
this country. instead of being hailed as a con-
feuerur, by whom the military glory of Great Britain
heel been enlivened, he had beets:dragged as .a eel-
Kit to answer to the charge of being a party to n
transattion which he wished :to prevent; and the
report of the tribunal before whotri he was arraigned,
spoke with equal praise of. the man who 'won the
battle, and of the man who, checked the pursuit ; of
thMen who 4oncluft d.llte disposition. of the.army,
and of the -man who, wheat victory s% as iichiered, at ease assumed the chief command. lie was far, , Lowever,..from wishing-to detraCt .from the merits
of the two other .gallant Generals, or to heighten
those of his illustrious ft icud, by a comparison with
them; but certainly they had no-share in the "ram-
attiete•-: Sir A. Wellesley had performed all the ser-
vice ; A. Wellesley was entitled to till the
re
Ward. • •4!
Mr. LAMAR,;•
adverting to the judgment of the
Roarer of !equity, who had deelared that unless they
hpd been ou the spot,. it was impossible for then-) to
• decide between theopinion•ot Sir A.-Wellesley and
that of Sir H. Burrark,retipeeking the pursuit after
the battle; thought that' after such adeclarailon, it
was impossible for the Muse- to pronounce on the
tubjed, He VOl9 anxious to do, away all • idea that
the lieuse. approved of the condud of Sir A. Wel-
lesley ivy dna tradistinetien to that of Sir _FI. Bunted.
Lout C.AIqI.EREA(iII, in, E,XplailritiOO, Observed,
that it was not in the most remote degree intended
by him to insinuate such it distin4ion. •
Gcneial GROSVatiOli; althOUgh he could have
Wished. that the motion had teen delayed for a few
days, yet, as it was brought forward; - wearily
.sup-
ported it, The chiValroUS acbieveMents of Abe USth
and 9. Ist,would be ever remembered inn circle of,
soldiers: Sir A. Wellesley he termed a
,veteran in
liable dating, a veteran in martialleme," a veteran
lnthe love and admiration of the public
WatTaitEAD, after having borne teatimeny.
to the propriety of the Noble Lord's conandiwbeth
the speeches with which he had introduced the
tiOns cat, that night, and After having expressed his
uequalitied approbation of the prowess and gallan-

try of Srl ,A; Wellesley incl.- his ilist4ninns-.
bnnd; seleich he profelaed pi the close of the year 1807,
could ;not avoia&declaring his i'egret; diet while the I ;fiat tsheeSe te;ls
.46.tnede. by• Which the 'regular army.
House were doing justi&i --tO our indiyiduale they I ;squid ,bte so- adyantageousfy increased; as by the
were, by-implication, affixiog a stigma on another, colliery Availing, itself of the/Spirit arid zeal of the
_and that-too who the latter Waa already severely and, of the:disinterested disposition •or the
suffering from the loss of a son Who might twee car- Milne Officers; (with very few exceptions) at n time
tied his name 40 :posterity with honour. • Sir' H. et pres Sing le:,:ceaSity, to make every sacrifice' in their
Burrard, with a nobleness never'exceededeshad _ de- power 3:,and instead of throwing obstacles in the way
clined to take from Sir At ellealeyethe command ,:of the transfer or their men to the line, to give the
of the army until the coMpletionor the;battle of Vis j most unequivocal aid . to .such a
,preceeding. He
miera ; and he could see no other way of freeing that would venture to say, that no military measure bad
Hon. Officer from, the imputations which the debate ever, been so immediately and,effeCtually p odeelive
of that evening. might occasion, than by including i Ato the army, as that adopted in 1807. The number
him in the genet al Vote of Thai)ks. The Cominans I of men allowed by that measure to, volunteer from
der in Chief had never before been passed over, even the militia into the line,
was 28,000,01 which whole-
when be hatithot been in ,view of thee enemy. .In .'number there had been a deficiency of only 8 or
support of this assertion, he instanced the case of Sir noo,men ; the rest consisted of some of the best dis-
Hyde Parker; who, having detached Lord Nelson to ciplined and most effe6live soldiers in the service,
Copenhagen, participated in ,the Parliamentary atse I had entered•into the line, and to their steadiness and
probation whicle the conduct of that
,lamented Hero' valour the country was, no donht, in a great mee-
called forth. Sir H. Burrard would have been clear- sure indebted for theglory which it had acquired
ly responsible had any failure taken place ; he ss'as at Vimiera and
iCorunna. Ile was convinced that
as clearly entitled to praise in
.the event of success.-- a ccnsiderable portion of the existing militia pant-
He theretofe moved to insert in the Motion, imtue- ed for 'an opportunity of extending their services. diately before the name of Sir A. Wellesley, that of As there was little .doubt, therefore, of the efficie
Sir H-Burrard. , • ency of a ,measure which he meant to pri`ipose, so
The CHANCRLLOR of" the• Exchequer, objected also he booed that as little could be entertained of
decidedly to this amendment, and contended, that it 3 policy. Itewould give the. Country 'in the least
• the House would ill consult Sir H. Burrard's feelings, possible time the largest possible disposable force.
if they attempted to give him praise for an achieve- •It would
,throw the temporary weakness on .the
ment, all participation- in which he, had distinally defensive army rather than on the disposahise The,
disclaimed.. The plan. was entirely Sir A. Welles- 1 reverse would be 'the. vase were the army of ee-
ley's-ethe execution Was entirely Sir A. WellesleY's serve to be renewed. He allowed that the levy of
—the reportof the battle was Sir, A. Wellesley's. I militia, in order to supply the, place of 26,000, who, Unquestionably Sir H. Burrard was entitled to great • •by the Bill of leoe,esersi permitted to volunteer Into,
praise for his liberality, generosity and forbearance; j the linee pressed heavy on the country ; but it
but it was not tliat description of merit which they were skewed what, the country was when • called on for
then considering. With respectto Sir Hyde Pecker, exertion. Parliament bad demanded 4.5,000 militia.
he had been thanked for the able disposition which Men from Great Britain and Ireland; in six,months
he had Made, so that that case had no bearing what- after that demand 41,500 joined their respec-
.ever.on the present.. Adverting •to the extraordi- live regiments. He was perfettly awnee, howeVee,
nary declaration made by the Noble Lord opposite, of the pressure of the measure,. ,and that it ought
of the lit itish , being
,superior in numbers to the only to be resorted to on a great emergency, as also
French, at the battle of Vitniera, hespesitively de- that it was the bounden duty of Government, if
nied the truth of that statement., Out of eight bri- i possible, to Mitigitte 'the evils: of the, ballot, end'
&ides- of the British, onlyfive, had been engaged in i render it less oteerotts on the. people. It sees his' in-
the aationS Three eighths of the British force re- tention in the Bill which he aticeald-eebroit to the.
mauled: without tiring a musket. , He could not sit j House, to restraiti the volunteering within the same,
with patience, and hear the gallantry of our brave limits as•those within which it was forinerly restrain-
soldiers thus attempted to, be frittered away upon fal- ed, in other words, to propose, that no regiment
lacious grounds, The, distinguished Officer who should be reduced below three-fifths of its
,full este-
was the subjeCt of the motion before the House, bliStiment. The last time the Legislature iidopted
had pursued a career ore military glory unexampled this measure, they determined not onle to replace
in this country'. He had gained almost as many vic- by ballot, the losa sustained in the militia regiments,
tories as he hid been years ip.aeryice, and he trusted, by the volunteering into the line, but to raise an
that the House, leaving all other coosideratione out i excess ; making in the whole:three! fourths of, the
of the question, would express their warm and de- full establiilunent, viz. e 6,000 in England, and
tided approbation of his merits. 000 in Ireland. Now, however, 'he- thought it
etieral Se-ewe/yr -dschired, thin no Man had a: only necessary to propose to cover the transfer of
higher respect for Sir Harry Burrard, but if the Hon. the militia for which purpose 'only half of the este-
Geotleman 's. amendment should be agreed to, he blishment , would be required, viz. 24,000- men in-
was persuaded that it would be difficult to ex- stead of 26,000. With respect to,. the power of
plain trethe army why lie had received the thanks of ballot, he apprehended that it was impossible to
that Houser. He paid a high compliment to the sits- part with it ; but it appeared to him, that still re-
tiegeistied merit of Sir A. Wellesley; and Lo con- tainipg that poWer, an interval might be allowed
firmation of• his opinion, quoted the sentiments of for the counties to endeavour to raise 'men by
a
aWe gallant frieetleel his, General Anstruther, a milder process. He was
anxious, to relieve thee'
man for whom he had entertained the sincerest love counties from the expence of raising these then,, by
and atfe6tien, and who had promised to become one proposing, that it raised in a limited thne by recruit-
er the brightest ornaments of the British army, That ins, the expence should be borne by the public;
gallant Ot-fieer, not Is?hg before his death, had told , and that, even where that mode should be ! found
him, that it was impelasible, to conceive any human impracticeble, and the ballot of, necessity resorted
exertion greater than that used, by. Sir A, Wellesley, to, that the ten guineas allowed. by Govertunent
during the whole or the campaign in Portugal ; that should go to the man ballotted, for the purpose of
no difficeltyerose which that illustrious General was i not ebl aiding him in finding a.subsiinite. Hu was sanguine'
e:to cibviete; and that he wielded the military enough to think l
e that this re Would
machine with as much ease as the most, nee- very great locaxertion, andg thatulation Colonels opf
lb;lifroduce
cheek; manitged• the instruments of his trade. # tin Regimeets, and 'Lord Lieutenants of Coonties,
Mr. Aoest concurred. in the general, praise of Sir would, use every effort to proeure'volutiteere (Or the
A. Welleshiy, and trusted, that his Hon, Friend militia within 'tite lintitedltune, that the charge
Would be prevailed ueon to withdraw his s'ernencle
I might fall not on the county, but on the public it
ncite Alluding: to. -those gallant. Officers, whose Lege. In order that the regular recruiting enight
1)1111Ci would probably be included in the next vote not be injured, he meant to propose that the bounty
propusrel• to, the House,: he particularly mentioned for volunteers to the militia should be Somewhat
Cienelsd Fe'tgiason, as one, whom IV 114 d alwaYS , under the bounty tittered for volunteers to the army;
llooked upon'as a son, and, stated, that Sir A. Welke- .for limited service. He repeated, that the expert-
ey had declared to bhn, thet the. way in which event which htenow proposed, had been. already
_Geoerel Ferguson bad ittd. en hi; troops. in that ace tried with success,sand that the modificetione which
tiuo, was olio of the boast etrestc es human bravery it was his wish tointroduce on the present ottca-
thet, lent ever: witstessed.
SiC)ll, would remove 'many of the- inconeettientiee
. Mr, Witt'resteep letivieg fulfilled, his, public duty, which were experienced in -thee framer it stanee:
and feeling ettiat , the sense of
.the House was ;so fle 40M:hided by :tuoving'for leave to bripg in it Atren Bili
gly, apnnst withdrew Atueodusent. to allow a certain part of the Militia of Great Britain
' 'Fite origipel Metion was then put and ,e.rarrieds to volunteer into the regular ;army..I l'
veldt a Single. dissetititig veAceolLesed 'Volkestone. e -Mr, TteaNne observed, •thet no case had been
„Tlie Thateles of the Houee were then voted ;to made. out by the Noble Lord of any deficiency e:iti
Majorscierieratie Spencer, Hill, .10t1 Fergus's!), to isting in the disposable force of the country, which
„Brigadier Generele"AcklandeNiehtingale, Varteeapd rendered a measure, such 'as thee now proposed; ne
Bowes, and to:the:other, Officer, of the Armys cessary ; and he conceived- • t hat' before:the 'House
The House 41sticante-tO a re:'olutinn, approving or I gave:their conseut to .it, it seas their.dury to inquire
the steady discipline and valour of the ,110Urcpininis, t what, had become at gre:if tistice, pliteed in the
awned officers tied prieetee of the dam army. Noble Lord's. hands two:years ago, :at which time
!IN C.R.EASV OF THE. ARMY. he had hialself:declared that the 'country striod in it
Lord ' C44l'Lktiti4/04 strid, . that in calling the i proud situation, and that • its military strehgth seas
attention of the Ileusti to the isriportartt (Ak& of adequate •to every exertion that could. be required
which lie hed.gieen neniee tor that! eveningeite had from it., What deficiency had arisen in that large
the satisfliai9tt of .feeling; -that although the subjed i disposable 'foree the NObli:!- Lord bad, himself teethed
was (It the greatest magnitude, it would be necessary
,surficiont, neither lie (Mr. Tierney)' nor any titan lei
for him to trespass but very shortly on 'their time at i tl'at House knew. Before he could consent to itne
the present Periods, The necessity fur . taking nitee.,l pose upon the people' the additional burthen which
'sures to :inCtMe the regular and :disposable force, i this measure us create, he must be satisfied not
without impairing the:, horrid defeoce, had-been re- i only that a further regular force wee eecessary, but
tottamended to :the: consideration of Perliainent in that the hands into which the disposition of 'thet
the gravest manlier in: the Speech from,the -throue, force was to be intrusted' were equal to ithe conk.
'and-he was - coovincet.l, :that oh • no- topic of a that , deece reposed in them.. At. present •all he 'knew on
Speech was, there -a more general :Concurrence - the subieet was, th4t tlee artny linty been most
of sentiment in that, Howe. =lt was 'unnecessary shamefully wasted by the Noble - Lord. Without
tOr him to point out to the attentioo of -the meaning to. caS; the slightest *flettion on our gal-
Hotise the general circumstances of Ettropee. and. 1311 t Officers, Mink; skill :lid ealotir entitles! them,
the particular sitoation.of • Great Britain, which retie on the contrary, to the highest. praiste.he was•ceu-
tiered it &paramount
.duty, to proeide a ' solid' and winced that the liottße and
,the Country nnutk:deeplr
efficient military strength. This principloswould-, feel thin the military power, of- -Engratici -under the
he was sure, be admitted on both sides of the Hottse auspices oethe Noble Lord, had experierictj a wore
-4t was only _requisite for him to :stale the mode disgraceful discomfiture thou any ito which it ha:l
in which he iutended tq carry ;t into etfett.— isoever hitherto been expesede Isfes Made these censer-
He hoped the House would allow him to bring nations pa the present (*emits-tee to guard himself
in the Bill for which •he should have the hoe from being supposed tt,, ,6serit to the propol.,;tioil
titter to move, and to take a future opportu t that his Majesty's Ministers had a claim on the
nity 'of replyina to the' objettions' that might pos country to have a • further force' placed at their 1 sib)), be advancjd'egainat the details which -it woold eispesal," without having first accounted for the
contain.-- In the first place, he had the setisteetien 1 way in which they had employed that 'already en-
of being.enabled to-relieve the House from thefiti- trusted to them, • ,
cessity of'relying, without experience, on judg- , Sir `,llsostes uttroN. plso protested ageinst any
menteor, on than of his Majesty's-Ministers at large,, eincrease of the disposable force, for which: there des
with rest eat the best mode Or dbtlitning the most tot appear to hint to he any eeeaseee see should
efficient 'Oral in the shortest petted of time. This • not consithUto a grant of otie sixpence for the arniyi
Mode bad been ascertained by-a very recent ex- which should not be pros ccl to be neeessery The
pcement,. lie entertained the same opitiitin as 4Outte had voted an tunny -of 1V,(4000 tnr.ti last Sese

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° ha • •f' 66 'a
atin, yet appea t only -.8,0 It.a .eert
sent the assistance of Spain'. In every stage4kres
fore Of the present bill be abould 'oppose
I,ood-nOt. agree to any further i n'erease qt. “,
until it should be shewn what bad been 'ant.
the army- voted last Session. Under this ii4pre)-
siotr he-Jrad come doWn to the, Howie Co vote ttrinst
the.meastille,in.the first instance-,
..Lord Mitetotsr observed., that it was hut*l
seVeoteen months since the House had been discesS- 'Ol
Mg a measure similar to, that new. proposed by ties
Noble Lord. On that occasion the NtiOe Lord hod
Stated that-the measure was resorted .to ender the!
pressnre orthe eiisting exigency, which fully justi-
fied ita adoption. He had the misfortune to differ
with the Noble Lord at that .time, and consisteinfv.
with the opinion he dlr.() entertained, he was hoend
to oppose the present measure. Independent of the
mode proposea for alleviating its operation, the urea-;
sure appeared to him in no other light than as an
attempt to -raise men for the army by a consctiptiOn.
He was grantto hear what had fallen from the ilon.•
Baronet upot they subjed, because, certainly, tree
Hon:. Baronet could not be aapated by 'any party
,feeling in his opposition to the measure. , After the
disasters s,ehich had been susteined,• he asked, whe-
ther even the,, Noble Lord would send another expe-
.dition to Spain to turn back the tide of success of
Buonaperte's army. Before the Hotlse could iijter-
to the measure, he telt that a substantiel itupsiry
ought to be made into the campaign of last summer,
the Swedish Expedition, and. the Expei,ittoo
Spain. In the present state of Europe; be c9old
, see: lit) p(jint to
,w kid) au EfitQCtilion oug-ht to, be
se ibis country Should slut, her Self 'up, aid
provide a cklitnsiye force.in the event of its being
attacked by the enemy.
Mr 1-41tiffityr, rose merely to one point, and that
be considered of so much importance that' he should"
feel he had not done his duty if he omitted to
(ion. Ile bad listened with attention to thespeech
of the Noble Lord, and Wil3 sorry that a proposilion
which he had suggested in a former Session, made
UO part of it. Since the tiniqn the Militia Laws Lei-
. peered to hi* anomalous and his 6onvictiou was tbal
the greatest advantage wouldresult from making' the
force fOr hot 9e defence in both mutually applicebte
in any ex,igency. After. enuinelating scene or the
benehts' that would flow froin the adoption oft his
Suggestion., and obviating sorne objections that might
.be made to it, the Honourable Gentleman :Stated •
that the interchange of the Militia of the two coun-
tries 'might be restricted, to avoid iaoriveuience is
Cases of rebellion, or inVasiOn, or upon Addresses Of
both Houses of Parliament. 't'houg'h aware Of, the.-
little weight he possessed, yet if no other Metubee
should take the question up, be was:deterinined
some stage of the Bill to bring itunder
Oration of. the House.
Mr. ,CA.1.611-APT desired that he might be inchided
in the reservation of his Right Hon. Friend, nortci
be continued- as approving-of any, projeet ;of the
Noble lard, until the aause'should be made ac-
quainted with the deficiency to be supplied, and they
amount to *which, the, Noble Lord meant to increase
the army.. Then they could. call upon the Noblii
Lord; from authoritative documents, to slew whit
he had done with the deficieney. He felt great cLf-
ficulty in intrusting the Right Han: Gentlemen ott
the epposite-side, with the management °fa stronger
disposable force; until they should show what tod
been done with the very efficient force voted last
Session. AS'this was a military sohjeet, he wished
to.ask, the Secretary at'War when the 'Army list;
Mates, would be laid before the House, and hope,i
that they, would be presented in such a for in at
the House would not have to (tiscuss the Arttly .and
Ordnance Estimates in the saute night, as happeriefl
last Session... He hoped, too; that/the Noble bir4
would havti,no libjetbon.to lay before the Retie
account of the strength of the Army bvluitt
the second reading of the Bill, :

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The CUANCEL,LOR, of the Ex-of-ma:vita did ttcrz
think this the proper time for di'seLiting the ni&.rici
of the measure, and hoped, that the. debate. 1:9;oUld
not be continued to any length. 'With respect, to
the qUestion of the Honourable Member, he tva4
sure that his Right Han. Friends could hilt" no 00-
.iCtiOn to theproditction of the fullest aceoulw th.a
.cpuld be desired: But he apprehended, ikit tt
would: not be necessary to delay, till they i. ,ij
be produced, the dikussinn of a Measure for ad i;•,
tb,the strength of the army. If the Right I
Gentleman )eally thought that the artily had tp.,'tl
wasted, Aaiveftilly wasted, as stated by him, stit,,
ly he could 'riot think this the moment, in 5,..
limes, to delay Measures for repairing that
It way iti protest against this-,imptitation ,of
that he had risen; and whenever,the (itistion
be brought before the House, be wt.; cooyik,e,i
that his ,Nob!'e Fried could feel neither iodispo;;i.,
lion nor tlitfieulty, to defend the application of
the diNipolahle torte of the counto, Whether
thould be desirable or not, to send QM other assist 7
ante to Spain, or it mr-tild have beep wise in bi 4
Majesty's Governmenkto abstaiti froni seoll:ng ottt
a;iistatice. at ally tioneoo that. Country ? If ever the
Howe o or the Public should decide in the neglive,
would then be for die Right lion. Gentleman to
slew that.,there'had been mismanagement-4)1 that
iillistanee, or how it could have been better iapplied
under their more able management,.;' After the
i'ations plans' the House had heard for the,conduct
of the:camp:4l44; he'-was sure that neither he ndi.'
ltis colleagues had any thing to fear lzoin Cio
prison, He had :in impatient anx.iety to v, hat plan the Rigid 116 u. Getitienlati Could pr0p,,,0 f.,
plan
thdt if lie, could -have wade al :j-
provenwlit in the plans stated by Ilk frien,L4 ii; a
former lie would nut have withheld it. kti,
this i;o! a time foil, ►going into the merits of
ineasurei lie shout:l'Bot pioloog the cotivemtioi,
how'ev'er, :be woulikadd, 'Chat- Whoevcr rilef;fs
of the Onipaio
should .be Bole to prove t hat the hari‘been
„
waste' iron). mtiniarrigetnent, not' dis.lionont 0,!1
misconduct,- dining its continuance,
; Mr. Tir...attry stated, in explanation, that lie had
never said that ahsistance ought n,ut to have been-
tient to Soain in-the early inomeutl of its•rlittlonai
ebullition ; neither had lie.‘aid that die cl4f;c let cis x
of the army ought not to he,reptiired. INV:Ut he hail said was, o,lot. II,: would not COLIS',IIt to thew measiare
until 3,1i•O‘.11(1 be informed how the troops whirr;
had been pl.tcvd at the disposal of the Noble 1...0rd
had been employedrand .next, what ate a'aiourtt of
the adult' deficiencies in the army were.,
The SAR;RgTA4Y t wAli 'Emitl

4

clay lie shculfl be 'able to recent the Army Esti-
mails, Lift all pu4sible dispatch would be used in
ri•e--ing them.
ikl.v. A. COOPER made a similar statement With re-
Vqd to the Ordnance,Estimates.
Mr. ELL toTT expressed deep regret- that the regu-
lar army should be kept up by these.hackneyed ex-
,A'peclientsi which had the.efle4 of breaking down the
kNlilitia," and produced the increase of the army by
7--; means of a dire&, and he must be permitted to say.,
a. fraudulent taxation. He lamented the inroads
which bad been made upon the wise system of a
Right Hon. Friend, then absent from indisposition,
but who, ht trusted, would attend in his place on
the second reading Of the Bill,
On' the question hoing.put for leave to bag in
the 8i11,.a division' took place... 7,
• For the Motion ' . . . . 77
• • AgilillSt it . 25
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After a very short eonver,lation laeOw.rCn
CIiANaI.L.OIL of the ExcnE.Q.ugn, Mr.liktiNEy,
Lcnd H. PLTTY, Mr. CALOiArr, turd tiltEN.
the purpoyt of which we, could.t3ot
hating Ixen brought in, was read a first Calle,
and ordered to b reed a fitcondtitue on 'l'uesclay
next.

Some pabLc accormts, ordered last Session, were,
IA the ntotion„, .. of Mr. MAturiN, afteca few observa
tons from MesSrs. MARTIN, LOI%IG, and flusp;i-
tiON. ordered to be presented forthwith.
Adjourned at Niue o'clock.

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Government this morning received dispatches from
"'Lisbon to the 16th; at that time every thing was per-
Lily tranquil : no French troops had Ipade their
appqrapco in that Kiugdotn.

• 'roe Tint.? de Paris, the Planiagenei, the Chain.
Om, and a great number of Transports, have ar-.
tived at Portsmouth frorn_Corunna.
It gives. us the most sincere pleasure to learn that
Sir DAvin BMWs wound is in a most favourable
state, 'and that the most sanguine hopes are enter-
tained of his recovery. •
jjeutenant-Gencral Hor4, who arrive ''at 'Forts.
mouth onTueliday in the44acious, reached town last
fiti ;lit. Several French prisonejs wore 'brought
borne in that 'ship, among whimu are three Offi-
cers; they speak in the highest terms of the
coinage of the. iiritish.Troppri, And declare; that they,
never before were opposed to such enemies. -
it is reported that a Vrench o,lficer of high rank
fell in the , battle before Cerunna, apa it MIS sup-
posed to he c:ther Suu4.'r or JUNOT.

I, Last night _Lord CASTLEIIRAGII, after paying a
very high enlogium-to the military talent's of the late
Sir Toti \lceitte, tnoyecl that a montunent'shouhl
b,..:erected to lila men3pry in the (241lecfritliC`htiroli of
This fiction was Agreed to rem. on as
waft also the motion for givinei the Th"ailVti' Of the
House to Sir DAVtn BAT it n, rind ,the other General
Other ‘4,1:0 were et gAged in the battle olCor4tina.
Lord CA-o'il.A.:(LAGllithOtt GittCct the attention of the
1.1011,,0 to the blilliant vi6tory obtained -by Sir
AtirkrGrtt Wat,,t.Eitt.v.y, at Vireiera, pfter corm

weiltiOt itt
.1;04;0 length- upon the important. set..."
vic. s of that Gallant Officer,. he concluded with
n` t ovntQ the' T.lituilil of the kuti,a to hint' which
•
•
was •agreed to with the , single diwient4-1 voice of
L'ord Pot.toros E. Th'e ic Ituns of iherttnSitrVvere
thin Votet4 to the cttier Getketals who:owed Atader
Sir ilitl4-:utt W14.1.r.51.1.111 upon that occasion.
It tnay not be improperi:cpon t his occasion, to advert,
to a statement in 4 Morttisig raper of 'this day, to
Vo;c11, as fat- as it may be supposed, to apply. to this
we give he most unfit alified controd,iftione
stecknent to which we allude
,i 4 as follows,
tpc,a;,inz, of Sir Jolts Moo;
We har,„; had, however, occasion to notice some obscutc
and *Odious atticks.wilich were made in all the Nfinisterial
Vapors, c,sou bc.iive and illustrious Officer, at a' time
when ha wat* saaving leis Country with zeal and with

14\'c will, ow opponent, instead of pner,alasser.!
fans, had conciescendod to point ant these insidiotis
attacks to which he. alludes : we know of none--

we have seen none : we have seen some opinions,
different,rapers,, upon the couclua of the catn.
paign, but certainly nothing that could beconstrued
into au itUldiOUS attack upon Sir J. Moo*. We
wish that thil delicacy towards the character of ab-
kcut Ofiicers had always marked the charaCier of
some, of our Contemporaries. it. cannot be forgot.
ten with what zeal the absent Sir Alakfpt WEL.
1418Le4 Wl3 attacked,-that tiis services were depre,
gated, that his military cliaraCer was traduced, and
that he was represented as, a man only fit to be ern.
rloyd, in regutating the Pojice of Dublin. Nay,
'the. Attacks, were even extended to all his relations--
taut Sit Awrutr VitrPLLEBLEY and his relations wore
guilty of the unpardonable crime of supporting tho

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