The Sun.
London, England, 1838-07-14 00:00:00

INDIA.

Sir C. E. GREY gave notice that on Wednesday he would ask a
question of the President of the Board of Control re'ating to the Indian
Law Commissioners.
EDINBURGH AND LEITH AGREEMENT BILL.
On the motion of Mr. R. STEUART this Bill was committed.
SCOTCH PRISONS BILL.
Mr. R. STEUART moved the Order of the Day for the third read.
ing of this Bill.
On clause 17, Mr. CHALMERS proposed as an amendment, that
in any borough sending a Member to Parliament, the Provost be, cz
qtficio, a member of any local Board which may exist..
Mr. KINNAIRD supported the motion of the Hon. Member, re.
marking that he had done so when it was originally proposed in Cure-
mittee.

Mr. FOX MAULE opposed the amendment, which was negatived
without a division.

Several verbal amendments were made, on the motion of Mr. F.
MA TILE.

Mr. G. W. HOPE proposed an amendment to cause 39, to the effect
that all tolls levied on agricultural produce according to the custom cf
burghs, for the purpose of supporting burgh prisoners, should be applied
to the relict of prisoners in counties and burghs generally.
Mr. FOX MAULE said, the tolls were not levied for the purpose of
maintaining the prisoners, but were levied by burghs on all parties whe
exposed their produce for sale in the burgh markets, having been
built at the expense of the burghs. He considered the proposi-
tion of the Hon. Gentleman was most ungenerous, and trusted Le
would not press it.

Captain GORDON said, by the existing law the boroughs were bound
to maintain the prisons and prisoners; and the common good was made
up in part from the toll of the county itself He thought this a reason.
able clause.

The LORD ADVOCATE said it could not be maintained that the
common good was granted for this purpose alone, and he considered the
claim would be of no advantage.
The clause was negatived without a division.
On clause 47,

Captain GORDON said, the clause enacted that the Parliamentary
boundaries of the boroughs should be taken. Now, if such were
to be the case, the inhabitants of the Royalty who were not
within the Parliamentary boundaries, would not be assessed either
to town or country. He moved the substitution of the word " royalty"
for " parliamentary."

Mr. R. STEUART and Mr. F. MAULE opposed the amendment,
which was negatived.

On the question of the passing of the Bill,
Sir W. RAE expressed a hope that the Bill would be carried
into effect without party spirit. Within a few weeks a
Bill connected with a judicial establishment of Scotland had been
brought to a third reading in this House, and he was rather surprised
then to find that the Government summoned their friends on the third
reacting to throw out the Bill, merely because he would not consent to
abandon a clause which had been carried on two occasions by majorities.
This course of summoning Members in such a manner was totally un-
usual, and, in the next place, it was entirely new to withhold a Bill be-
cause he would not abandon a clause. Notwithstanding what took place
then, however, he should not oppose the passing of this Biil,
Mr. F. MAULE said that when the Bill alluded to by the Hon.
Mcmber was in the House in the previous Session, he stated
,his of jet.
tion to it, and during the present Ses'sion he bad opposed it in every
stage.

The AT TORNEY.GENERAL protested against the discussion
being allowed to proceed further.
Mr. GOULBURN defended the course pursued by his Right Hon.
Friend (Sir W. Rae) who had en all occasions consulted the interests of
the country rather than any private or party feelings.
Mr. BLAIR complained of difficulty thrown in his way when he
had been assured that an opportunity would be afforded him of bringing
forward his amendment, the object of which was to place the assessment
upon the several districts in proportion to the amount of crime, instead
of "crime and population conjointly."
The SPEAKER submitted to the Hon. Member, whether it would be
judicious to continue the discussion when it was too late to move his
amendment.

Mr. BLAIR was not hostile to the principle of the Bill, but being
unfairly deprived of the opportunity of bringing forward his amend-
ment, he should feel it his duty to oppose the passing of the Bill.
Mr. F. MAULE objected to the amendment, on the ground that it
materially affected the money clauses, and would create much incon.
venience.

Captain GORDON agreed with his Honourable Friend, but as the
Bill would be a great benefit to Scotland he trusted that he would not
divide the House upon the question.

The Gallery was cleared for a division but none took place, and the
Bill was passed.

COAL TRADE.

Mr. BERNAL brought up the Report of the Committee on the
Coal Trade Bill, which was ordered to be engrossed.
IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT BILL.

The ATTORNEY.GENER AL moved the Order of the Day for a
Committee on the above Bill.
Mr. HUME presented a petition from the prisoners confined in the
Queen's Bench, complaining that the Bill did not go far enough.
The House then went into Committee on the Bill, Mr. BeRSAL
irrthe Chair.
Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to.
A proviso was added to clause 3, directing all writs sent into the
counties palatine of Lancaster and Durham, should be directed to the
Chancellor or his deputy, or the; Bishop and his deputy.
On Clause 4 in ing proposed,
Sir E. CODRINGTON said his constituents were very anxious that
the Bill should not have a retrospective effect. It was stated to him that
his constituents had lent 30,0001. to officers for their outfit under the
old law, and they wished to have the same power of recovery as they
had when the money was lent.
SEC ND EDITION.

(Continued from our First Edition.)
Mr. HUME N, as of opinion that some portion of pay should be allotted
to creditors where officers forgot to perform their engagements. It was
true, that in some cases it might press hard on the officer, but then the
tradesman ought also to be protected.
Sir E. CODRINGTON observed, that it was on the ground of pro.
tection to the public service that he had put the case.
Sir HENRY HA RDINGE said if a military offic. r incurred a debt
for necessary equipments the Commander.in.Chief would comp2l that
officer to pay for them, He agreed with the Gallant Admiral opposite
(Sir E. Codrington) that it was necessary to protect the persons of
officers.—(l-lear, hear.)
Sir J. GRAIIA M said that as far as his recollection served him,
what the Right Hon. and Gallant Officer near him had stated was the prac
tice with respect to the army was the practice with respect to the navy.
Even on full pay the Admiralty would take measures to secure the pay-
ment by the naval officers of their honorary debts.
Admiral ADAM made a similar statement.

Sir E. CODRINGTON said the Army Office never interfere) with

the private debts of its officers. But at the Admiralty, on the mere ipse
dizit of some underworking individuals, officers, without even being
confronted with their accusers, had been scratched off the Navy List.
This was a system which be (Sir Edward Codrington) had long bean
endeavouring to destroy, and he had given a notice to bring the subject
forward.

Admiral ADAM thought this was not tke proper time to introduce the
question. On the fitting occasion he would be quite ready to discuss it.
Sir E. CODRINGTON said when he had brought the subject for.
ward before, no one connected with the Admiralty was present.
The Clause was then agreed to.
Clauses 5,6, 7, were also agreed to.
On Clause 8, Mr. HUME said he could not see why there was
any necessity for calling in an attorney.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said this provision which had been
ntroduced by the other House of Parliament was necessary to carry out
the provisions of the Bill.
Mr. HUME waived his objection, and t)e clause was rgreel to.
Clauses 9 and 10 were agreed to.
On clause 11 being proposed,
Mr. HUME said he thought there was great vagueness in it, which
would lead Sheriffs' officers to execute warrants as they pleased. Only
a few days ago a man had died in consequence of the manner in which
a warrant had been executed. That was what he must call a legal
tnurder.—( A laugh.)

After a few words from the ATTORNEY. GENE RAL,
The clause was agreed to.
Clauses 12 to 21 inclusive were agreed to eller a few verbal alterations.
On clause 22 being read,

Mr. HUME said the clause now before the Home thawed the total
inadequacy of the Bill. They imprisoned a man to Let posia.sion of
his property, and they now sought to maintain a Court to get passession
of property which the debtor had not. Imprisonment far cleat merely
should never take place in a free country.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL hoped the Hon. Member would offer
no factious opposition to the passing of the Bill.

The clause, as well as the other clauses up to 32, were then agreed to,
without observation.

Clauses up to 84 were then agreed to.

On clause 85 bring read,

SHEPHERD moved an amendment to the effect that the judg.
ment should not be in force for more than three years after the discharge
of the debtor.

A lIBURTON hoped the lion. Member would allow the Bill
to go th with all its imperfections, and let the responsibilities rest with
the other House, which had passed, and the Government which had
sanctioned, it. He was satisfied that the law of debtor and creditor
would not be allowed to remain in the state in which the present Bill
would place it, and that scme efficient change would, ere that period,
take place.

The ATTORNEY.GENERAL would not consent to the amealmcnt
of the Hon. MemLer. He hoped the Etll would be allowed to pass in
its present form.

Mr. D. W. HARVEY, if he rightly understood the observations of
the Attorney. General, presumed that they had little to do in the way of
deliberating maon the various clauses of the Bill.—(Hear, hear.) The
House of Lords had sent the Bill down to them to accept it or not, but
with an intimation that they would consent to no alteratioas. It
that House did not like the Bill, as it stood, " they might lump
it."—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) He was not inclined to look
so unfavourably at the Bill as the Honourable Member for Bridport ; and
it appeared to hint that the Bill was susceptible of much improvement:
;there were two or three manifest advantages gained by the Bill, and
therefore he would rather see the Bill passed in its present objectionable
shape than rejected altogether.
Mr. EsTctimt hopcd the Right Hon. the Attorney-General
would consider the amendment of the Hon. Member, which he cordially
supported. He thought the Bill was ()fie which ought not to be hastily
abandoned ; at the same time he trusted that the House would never
waive its constitutional right of amendment in any measure sent down
from the other House.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL denied that the Bill had not come
down in the most constitutional shape, giving to the Members of that

[oue every tight they think proper to extrcise in the way of

amendment,

Mr. HUME objected to a judgment being allowed to hang over an in-
solvent, which would prevent his ever being aTe to reestablish
in business.

A. YATES hoped the Hen. Member would withdraw his amend.
=nt. !t would be better to take the Bill for thegood it would certt.iol

do, than r. ject it altegvther.
Mr. FRESIIFIELD ob.ected to the amendment. It would effect an
alteration in the existing law, because in the Insolvent Debtors' Court
there were at the present moment between 100,000 and 200,000 judg-

meats whh h were liable to b 2 enforced at any tune. If there was any
One provhh of the Bill which was more worthy of the support of that
House than another, it was the clause which it was now attempted to

alter.

tche amendment was the.i Ly leave withdra‘vr, and the data e
asreLd to.

The remaining clauses were then agr, ed to, and
The House resumed.
LOAN SOCIETIES (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill went through Committee, with some verbal amendments.
DUBLIN POLICE BILL
_

The Dublin Police Bill was read a third time and passed en tl e mo.
tion of Lord Morpet h.
The Revenue Department Securities Bill went through
The County Treasurers (Ireland) Bill passed through Committee.
INSANE PERSONS (ENGLAND) BILL.
On the motion ofLord ASHLEY this Bill went through Committee.
COUNTY OF CLARE ADVANCES BILL.
The Report of the Committee on this Bill was bought up.
The Report on the Land Tax Commissioners Names BM was pre.
scnted.
The House then adjourned.

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THE FUNDS.—CLOSING PRICES.
I
Bank Stock ... BRTISH FUNDS.
3 per Cent. Red t 205% India Stock '6;%
hli
3 per Cent. Cons 03% Ditto Bends
`3,;, per Cent Ditto Old Annuities 9..,-,
!Ditto New Annuities
Newper Cent. Red ' 01%Ex. Bills, I,COO/ '4,id 73m. p.
3;i per Cent 1011,4 I Ditto 59 t
15 7-16 13aBnkit'S°tock'orOpg. , p 75 pm..
Long Annuities to expire
h.,
Jan. 186 I
Oct 1850
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FOREIGN FUNDS
Austrian, 5 per cent ...............10"1q Portuguese Bonds, 5 per cent..
Itelgian, 5 per cent — Ditto. New Ditto —
11 tzilian Bonds — Prussian, 5 per cent —
Bu-nos Ayr s, 6 per cent. — Russian Bonds, 5 per cent ' 12%
Chilian, 6 per cent — Ditto, Metallic. —
Colombian, 6 per cent Spanish, 5 per cent ...2.‘,;,;
Ditto, 1824 - Ditto, Consolidated
Danish, 3 per cent French, 5 per cent. - f —c.
Greek Bonds, 1825, 5 per cent. Exchange 2SE —c
Mexican, 5 per cent. French, :Iper cent —f. —r.
Ditto, 6 per cent, 1825 25 Dutch, 24 per cent.
Peruvian, 1825,6 pe.r cent ...... .. Ditto, 5 per cent. .. lO2
(CLOSING PRICE OF SHARES.—(THIS DAY).
Eastern Counties Railway
Great Western Railway 73
London and Brighton Rtilwry
London and Blackwall Railway
London and Birmingham Railway
London and Greenwich Railway
London and Southampton Railway
London And Croydon Railway
Manchester and Birmingham Railway