The Sun.
London, England, 1849-09-07 00:00:00

THE BERMONDSEY MURDER.

RE-EXAMINATION OF MR. AND MRS.

MANNING.

(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Mr. William Flynn, an officer in the Customs,
said the deceased was a relative of his, and that he
had known him for nine years. He was a second
cousin. He was shown a body at 3, Minver-place,
on the 17th of August, upon which an in-
quisition was holding at the time, and it was

that of Patrick O'Connor. He bad not the slightest
doubt about it being the body of that person The
witness stated, when he called at Minter-place to ask
for O'Connor, Mrs. Manning looked pale and rather
flurried.

Cross-examined by Mr. Binns—l knew that the
deceased had false teeth, because I have seen him
without them at his lodgings, at his office, and at my
own house. I saw him last two months before his
death. I observed by accident that he had fah&
teeth. He did not tell me that he had them. I made
no observation to him upon making the discovery.
Anne Armes, Mr. O'Connor's landlady, was the
next witness, and went over the heads of her former
evidence. On being asked if she knew Manning,
she said she did not recollect him. She knew Mrs.
Manning perfectly. She used to visit Mr. O'Connor
frequently alone ; sometimes Manning came with her.
Her sister usually opened the door. She was on
friendly terms, and so was the person that came with
her, whom she understood to be her husband. She
deposed to Mrs. Manning coming to the deceased's
lodgings and taking away the property deposed to
have been stolen.
Mr. Binns said there was no evidence to show that
the male prisoner had ever called at the lodgings of
the deceased. The identity was not made out.
Mr. Bodkin said he could prove it by the sister of
the last witness.
Emily Armes was then sworn—She said she lived
with her sister. She said she generally admitted the
female prisoner.
Did Mr. Manning ever come with her ?—He did.
Look round the court, and see if you can point
him out. The witness (pointing to Manning)—
That is Mr. Manning.
Mrs. Armes was here re-called—She remembered
Mrs. Manning and the person who passed as her hus-
band dining with Mr. O'Connor, and she was in the
habit of waiting at the table. About twelve months
back sbe heard a conversation between them about
borrowing money, and she also heard a conversation
on money matters.
Mr. Binns and Mr. Solomons asked some ques-
tions, but the only thing at all material was that Mr.
O'Connor had told her not to let Mrs. Manning in
any more. Had seen Mrs. Manning and Mr.
O'Connor in the bed-room together. Did not know
anything about whether they were intimate or not.
On her oath she did not believe that they were on
terms of the closest intimacy.
Emily Armes was recalled—Recollected Mrs. Man-
ning being at her sister's on the Friday before Mr.
O'Connor's death. The cash box was on the table.
Mrs. Manning said she should like to buy soma rail-
way shares. He said " You had better buy so and
so." She could not recollect the name of the line.
Recollected Mrs. Manning coming in on the Thurs-
day at the private door. She came again on the
Friday. The time was a quarter to six. She noticed

the clock, because she had to send the boy out ai

that time. She asked if Mr. O'Connor was in. She
said he was not. She went out through the shop at
a quarter past seven, having bought some cakes. She
looked pale and agitated.

By Mr. Solomons—llad known the female pri-
soner about a year and a half, during which time she
came frequently to Mr. O'Connor's lodgings. Mr!,
O'Connor was showing her some railway shares
whilst they were talking on the day she mentioned

She was not bound to go through the shop, she might
have gone out by the private door if she had thought
proper. Mrs. Manning and Mr. O'Connor were on
friendly terms. She has often taken tea with hint
alone.

Re-examined—Mrs. Manning told Mr. O'Connor
that she wished to be instructed how to purchase some
rail way shares.
By the MAGISTRATE—Knew Mrs. Manning went
into the bed-room, because she used to push up the
window and water the flowers.
Mr. William Massey, the medical student who

lodged in Manning's house, was then called and
sworn. He repeated his evidence as to the conversa-
tion with Manning, when he asked him what drug
would produce stupefaction or partial intoxication, in
order to induce a person to put his hand to
a promissory note for 5001., and also as to other con-
versations both with the male and female prisoners.
His (witness's) reply to the question whether lauda-
num or chloroform would produce stupefaction was,
that he believed those drugs had been used for bad
purposes. On another occasion Manning asked which
was the most dangerous part of the head to hit? and he
replied, under the ear; and also when he was
talking about Rush, whether he thought a murderer
would go to heaven ? Manning observed, at the
same time, that he thought he would go to Madame
Tassaud's and see the figure of that murderer. Another
question was asked about the noise made by an air-
gun. Witness thought that these questions were
asked with the view of getting him to become
a party to their acts.
Cross-examined by Mr. Binns—l wrote two or
three letters to O'Connor, by the direction of the
Mannings, inviting him to dinner. Ido not know
when the first letter was written ; the second, I think,
was written in the middle of July. Mr. O'Connor
came to Manning's house after the second
or third letter was written. I cannot swear
whether he was there three times, but I think
he was there three times. I don't believe I saw him
after the last letter. I went into the country on
Monday, the sth August, and I wrote the last letter
to O'Connor very nearly a fortnight before then. To
the best of my recollection, it might be a week or
more before the sth. I put my name to that letter.
The male prisoner and I were not on bad terms
before I left London. There was some dispute
about money ; he claimed 131. and I found that he
afterwards sent a bill into the country for 151.
Re-examined—l once had a quarrel with him in
the presence of some medical students about a bet.
We left on tolerable terms. I lodged with the pri-
soners altogether nine or ten weeks.
Mr. Coleman, the owner of 3, Minver-place, gave a
repetition of his former evidence.
At the conclusion of his examination,

Mr. Bodkin said he understood it was the intention
of one of the legal advisers of the prisoners to apply for
the postponement of their trial at the Old Bailey until
the session after next, and if such were the case, he
trusted that both of those gentlemen would concur in
making an application to the magistrate, so as to avoid
the enormous and needless expense of keeping the wit-
nesses in attendance next session upon the grand jury.
lie (Mr. Bodkin) would be prepared to state to-morrow
morning whether he could consent to the application
on the part of the Crown.

Mr. Solomons said his client (Mrs. Manning) de-
sired him to state that she wished the fullest and most
ample inquiry into the matter concerning the death
of the deceased, and he had no objection to the course
proposed by Mr. Bodkin.
It was understood that Mr. Binns coincided in the
suggestion, and at a quarter past four the magistrate
adjourned the further hearing of the evidence until
twelve o'clock to-morrow, when Mr. Bodkin will
give a reply.

The court was nearly cleared before the pri-
soners were removed from the dock. Manning
did not once move from the position he firkt
took on the side of the dock, and he only
spoke once to his solicitor during the exa-
mination, to which he gave great attention.
He looked pale, but appeared quite at his
ease. Mrs. Manning, on the contrary, several
times turned round in the course of the evidence,
and consulted with Mr. Solomons.

Towards the close of the proceedings she looked
very fatigued. More than once she was noticed to
turn slightly round and give a searching glance
into her husband's face, but when he observed her,
he hung down his head.

At a Special Meeting of the Board of Congrega-
tional Ministers in London, held this morning, it was
resolved to recommend that Wednesday next be set
apart by the Churches of the Congregational Order, in
London and the country, as. a day of humiliation and
rayer,ia!)e3rtn3a t o the prevailing epidemic,--Patriot,