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PRom,THE LONDON GAZETTE, MAY 8.

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CATHOLIC BOARD.
• SATURIIAY, MAY 1,
The Earl of TINGALI, in the Chair;
This august Body
,assembled in unusual num-
bers; all 611 ed with anxiety for the Common cause
of freedom. •
The Noble Earl took the Chair at three o'clock,
and the busineScof this important sitting,did not
close Until sqen.'
We observed in .;the rooms.LordKileen, Sir
E.'Bellew,- Messrs. Bryan, Segraver Doy e, Don-
' Henan, Mac Dounef, Scully, O'Connell, N. Ma-
hon, Dromgoole, O'Gorman/ Sugrue, Finn,
Blake, Hussey., Taatre of Smartt-tar; Taaffe of
Terronnure, two of Clara, Byrne, two Ba-
gots, O'Callaghan, 'reeling, Smith, E. Smyth,
Hughes, Young, Plunket, Power, R. Dillon, T.
Dillon, Lawless, Robertson, O'Brien, Kirwan,
Murphy, Costigan, and many other names, re-
spected by the Irish Public.
Two letters from Mr. Hay were tend, account-.
, ing for his protracted stay in London.
Mr. R. igivc DoNNELL and Mr. Hussmob-
served, that they considered their functions, • arid
those of the other Delegates, as having ceased,
upon the presentation of the Address and Peti-
tions with which they bad been charged. A de-
snitory conversation ensued, in • which it was
(amongst other matters) declared to have been
the sense of the Board, that Mr. Hay had not been
rent as a Delegate, but bad followed the Delega-
tion as aSecretary to it, in consequence of a se-
parate vote.
Mr. O'CoNsELL proceeded, pursuant to the
• Order of the Day, to move, that " the late De-
legates• be directed to repair to London' without

delay.''
This' motion was seconded by Major BRYAN.
• Au earnest discusslon ensued, highly interesting
and instructive, Talent; temperance, penetration
and profound intelligence,. were eminently observ-
able throughout.
We are precluded from giving Reports of the
several Speeches, :by the Wish expressed by some
of the Speakers, flog in the present stage of the
Bill) nothing should emanate from the Board, that
could possibly, by verbll inaccuracy, be perverted,
by en adversary, or mistaken by a friend.
The discussion turned principally upon the me-
rits and provisions of the Catholic Bill, prepared
lately by the. Committee of the Commons House.
Two Members had just seen a Draft of the Bill,
and stated its contents to the Board.
We niust premise, in justice to this grave and
estiniahle Body, that the LecleAittstical provisions
of this Bill, or proposed Securities, finined no
part of their discussion,..direelly or indirectly
from .this branch of the subject, every Member
of the Board scrupulously abstained—leaving it,
where it may safely be confided, in the hands of
the Catholic Hierachy.
But, with respect to the Civil Enactments of ••
the 'proposed Bill, or those which profess to-grant
to rise. Catholic Body a, complete emancipation,
and to effect the declared pm.pose of Parliament,
by a final adjustrnent, and by burying all religiOus
jealousies in oblivion ; this subject was treated
With equal freedom and acuteness. • •
1. It was observed, and.with regret, that, al-
though the Catholics have latterly petitioned the
Legislature for Religious Freedom, upon the en-
larged basis of justice and universal liberty of eon-
science, prayingyelief equally for all other classes
of Dissenters, as fpr themselves; yet the'proposed
Bill is narrowed in ifs Principle to the relief of the
Catholiesalone, which is the more to be regretted,
because the Dissenters, by their uniform liberality
and recent aid'afforded to the Catholic Petitions','
had acquired •weighty claims upon the gratitude
and co-operation of the Catholic Body ; audit Was'
therefore desired to be understood, now as'here-
tofore, to be the wish of the Catholics, to have all
other Dissenters comprehended in the like relief
with themselves.
2. But, even though •the 'framers of the Bill
should (contrary to the Wish of the Catholics)
adopt the less comprehensive principle, yet the
proposed 11111 doeg not go the length of complete
religiouS freedom, even for the
,Catholics them- .
selves. Now, it has long been understood, that
(whenever the necessary Ecclesiastical Securities.
should he devised)'no difficulty could remain in the
why of the complete civil emancipation of the
Catholic Body. There was to be a 'final adjust-
pent, that should leave no grievance unredressed,
no gronnd for future Petitions. The aceount'of
oppression was to be finally closed, by kimple‘re-
peal ; SQ it has been all alOng espeeted,notnierely
by the CatholicS, but by the Protestants: Even
the brutal of the Oppo`nentfi ohteeted to relief, not
so much because exclusion ought to remain,ashe--
tanse Security was not, provided---so, too, in the
preamble of the Bill under discussion. But here
is ample security required, and yet ample redreSs is
not provided,--IThese ought to he to-exteniive—
they are not so. The Bill i 5 only fora partial re-
peat True, it. restores much ; but it leayeS much,
This cannot he sop posed to be the intention of
the liberal and enlightened Members:of the Com-
mittee ; but probably owing to the Unskilfulness
of sortie lawyer, whom they haVe employed,' pro-
bably not mueb at.tpl tinted with the laws' otinte,;-.
rests of Ireland, "Amendment in -this parfleolar
should be, provided, and defects pointoFout, if
not now too late for interference.
:3.'!'he frame'of theßill'appearedqueitioneble.
It professes to relieve the Gitlinlics from certain
specified Penal Statutes ; yet it does not, in the
ir.:citstomed technical form, repeal those Statutes
by express name or recital, but by general wards',
srhich may hereafter receive a Kirsh itatrOraft;
tine;, "Of this, Dr. Duigenan's Lore:has affOrded
atiltist:ince- •
, iu-
4. Tbelanguagvof the Pik!, too, appeartl
adequate tote Intended ObitsCh:. Of, this inane-
quacy many instanees were adduced, and excited
4A general surprise among the Members.
""" 04erved, that the Oath contained in
the proposed Islll, coutitins (in addition to the en-
tire of theTreitent Oaths) certain new phrases'.
which haVt•iint been sufficiently ))• 1- 1 1)
1
the Cat-h n olies, or eve offe' I.swer" y
m or ).nowit by
them.

;. nat there i$ a blunder in more than one

LoNi)cri:
At the UN Opp

•
psstap-e of thil Sill, where it adVtirt.,-.10. ll'eelar-.
tion against Transubstantiation, and also to a-De. •
clam Hon -against the Invoca‘tion,of ; where-,
as, in fact, there is one Declaration.'
7. That the clause relating to the. Elettiv,-.
Franchise is' become now quite... ttopecessary for
the Irish. Catholics, and, must have been penhed
without acquaintance with the -.Election Code Of
Ireland. •
8. That the excetition Of the .of ees'of Chancel.;
for of England, and Lord.Lientenant of Ireland,
(though but two in number), appears to he fotmd-
ed upon a•nririciple of exclusion, which'the Ca-
tholic-Body cannotv as good and deserving 'citi-
zens, beexpected even tprecogni,w.
9. That the. Enactment for admission -into Cot:. .
potations, keeps the Catholics, practically, still
exelided ; 4iS it leaveithent. at the mercy. of pre-
sent and future bye-laws of excluion, it omits
the words ''Charter or by Law,". employs
only the vague. And disputable term, r'Member,tif
a Corporation instead of the legal names of the'
Corporate Offices ; as it provides no redress in
case of refusal' to admit Freemen ; and finally, as
it leaves the offices of Directori of the Bank of
Hand (for instance) still closed, against Catho-
wealth and probity.
10, That, by continuing the exclusion from the
Universities, and from even the Lay Fellowships,
and offices therein, -it denies to the Catholic
Body all.participation of the benefits of education,
to be enjoyed in those highly endowed establish- ~
ments.
11. That this same Oahu!, by its operation, dis-
ables Catholics from the higher Offices in the'
Law—as those of judges, Masters in Chancery,
&c. &c.
12. It leaves the Catholic Peers of Ireland still
incapable of voting at the Eleciion of
.anylicpre-
I
sentative Peer of Irehtnd.—Another, proof ctf
un-
skilfulness in the framer of this Bill ; for the'Com-
mittve could not hard designedly continued. this,
disability. '
13. It leaves the Catholics" still ;Inn to all
the pillage 'of Chuveh Rates, ;Vestry Cases,
&c. so grievously felt by the farmers, cotters, and
peasantry of Ireland. [Another important onus;
sion.]
14. It' still subjects theit to the long-- oaths,
imposed" by Dr. Daigenan's presentment art 1793;
and no Catholic is.to acquire, enjoy;,: or transmit,
freehold property, be a Guardian,,&c, or scarcely
exist incivil lifeiswithenit publicly.taking and sub.;
scribing these oaths.
This hardshiki, it was observed was most galling
and personally inconvenient in many instances. •
15. ,Many other omissions, -douhtful phrases,"
and imperfections, were largdy-commented upon.
It appeared to be-the general sense of this en-
. lightened 111,eeting, • that (however upright the
views, and tstiinahle the characters-of the Ment-
he's of the CoMmitted may be, and this was fully
acknowledj,ed), they had produced-a Bill, which-
was, in its principle, restricted ; in its frame un-
necessarily doebtfal ; "and in its provisions inade-
quate to that full relief, which has been expected
by the Public of all classes, and•was apparently
intended by the Parliatacat, and, probably, by
the Conimittee itself. 2
Duriog this long and arduous discussion, of
which we here present hut a faint outline, not a.
sentiment of disrespect towards any individual of
the Committee who prepared this 'Bill, was of-
fered to tloßoard ; on the contrary, their inten-
tions Were admitted to be as sincere as-their views
were libTll, and there appeared to exist no doubt
at the Board-, that the impel fections of this Bill
would yet be removed, if any opportunitY should
remain. Under all these circumstances the Board
telt the propriety of nominating additional Dele-
gates, who should repair to London, directly, and
attend to the progrest.of
The 4esolution moved by Mr. O'Connell. (as
already mentioned), having passed. unanimously,-
that Gentleman next moVcd—That the additional
DAegates should be.-Sir Edward Pellew,, Maki!'
Bryan, and Messrs. Begot and Scully. •
This was seconded by Mr. N.Malton,'who tug-
geSted 'that the number should consist of five, and
"that Mr. O'Connell 4hould be the 'Fifth Delegate.
Mr. SCULLY expensed his sense of the propos
• ed honour,,
,but was sorry to feel himself .obliged
to decline it, for which he statetrhis reasons.

Many Members persisted, however, that Mr.
Scully could not be excused from going, his pre-
sence in Londem being likely to be of public utility
upon the occasion. • •
Mr. K tRWAN observed,. that the established form
of Election being by ballot, it ou:_rilt not to be in
any instance departed from 3 at ,the same time, he
considered the Gentlemen put in nomination as
most eligible, and would ballot for them,
Mr. O'GoametN then propose:l, that the Ballot
do take place instanter.
A 'Ballot accordingly took place, when ap-
peared that Sir t. Bellew, Messrs. Bryan, Scully,
O'Connell, and Bagot were elected unanimously.

- "
Mr, ScuLLY repealed his regret, that he was
mythic at present to niidertak the high trust 'in
question,; but svould be happy, without leaving
Ireland, to render his best services,to. the general
interests.
Mr. It. Nlac'Ponnell, Mr. O'Connell, and Dr.
Dronigoole, on account, of the lateness of the
hour, postponed, to next Saturday, the several
Motions of which they had given notice. Certain
other Motions 'were announced for next Saturday.
it was then resolved, that the Board, at this
important crisis, should adjourn to Monday only.
H The Earl of FtiloAr.t, before leaving the Chair,
expressed in wartn'terms his satisfactioh at the in-
structive awl highly beneficial discusaion, which
bad that day taken place at the Board, and for
which they must feel ilighly indebted to the Mem-
bers who had taken part in it. For his part, it had
made upon his mind a deep, and, he trusted, a sa-
lutary* impression. To him, and other Delegates
present, it was most seasonahle, as they proposed
to sail for Holyhead with the first fair wind. It
should be his, care 'and theirs, when in London,
to make a proper use of the suggestions and db.
servations which he had that day hearit.' •
Ike vvas received, as usual, with cordial and un-
mixed applause, and Thanks were unanimously
voted to his Lordship for his excellent conduct in
the Chair.--Adjourned at Seven o'clock.

intut VI THOMAS %% of No. ill, Strand; and Publis'
1342 lila. 112,_Stiand, where eltivertitentents, 0401

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edtl rit' ttirri frontiY7 °Afild 11‘11(1% i 11'Sjitir 11118o1)e.rit8C13*11:der, Bart.
Ce.nunander-in-Chief at Plymouth, to &Ant Wilson Croker,
Esq. dated the 6th Inst. . .
SIR,

I request you to inform the Lords Commis-
sioners of the AdMiralty, that the Fos, American
brig letter of marque, arrived here this morning,
captured by the Whiting schooner, Pheasant a.nd
Scylla in company, in latitude 12 deg, after ,a
chace of above.loo miles. The Fox mounted 8
guns (2 of which she threw overbomll in the
chuce), with a complemebt Of 29 men, and was
bound front BOurdeaux to Philadelphia.
I have the honour tO!be, &c. -
ROUERT CALDER.

drimiralty.-offire, May 8, 1813.
Copypf a Letter froM Captain Sir George R. Collier,. of his
• • Malesty's ship Surveillante, addressed -to Admiral Lord
, Keith; and transmitted by his Lordship to Jolla Wilson
Croker,' Est .
MY LORD, Surrillante, April 27, 1813.
I have the honour to acquaint your Lordship.,
that the schooner Torn, an Atherican letter of
marque, of 287 tons, .6 guns, and 3G men, was
this morning captured by his Majesty's ships .Bnr-
veillante and ,Lyra, after a smart chace ; she was
from Charlestown, bound to N'autz ; she is a re-
markably tine vessel of her class, and, frOns her
superior sailing, had already escaped from 18 of
his Majesty's cruizers. I have the honour, &c.
GEO. 11. COLLIER, Capt.

. .
iltbuiralty-gllice, May S , 1813.
Copy of a Letter from Captain, Christian, of his Majesty's
ship Iris, 'addressed to Admiral LOrd Keith, and transmitted
by his Lordship to John Wilson crolier, Esq.

His Majesty's ship Iris, at Sea,
MY LORD, April 13, 1813.
I have the honour to inform your LOrdship,
that, after a clutee 'ot" thirteen hours,, I this
day captured. the American schooner Price, a let-
ter ot inariptO, ot six g,uns and 30 men, together
with her prize, the Bchooner Equity, of Plymouth,
whkeh she bud taken eight days ago.
I hav'tr the how;ur to be, eNie.
(Signed)'ll. li. CIMISTIAN, Capt.

. .
Adnara/iy-Ogice.. Mw/ S, 1813.
.
Copy of a Letter from Lieutenant William. Knight.(i), eom-
• mantling his: Majesty's hired ketch (gentler, to John Wil-
. son Croker, Esq. dated at Plymouth, the 6th inst.
SIR,
.
•

I beg you will he pleased to inform their Lord-
ships, that his Majesty's hired ketch under' my
command captured, on the 27th March, the
French privateer Adelaide, of six guns and 46
men, five days from Naples, and had made no
capture: While lying nearly' beealnied, Cape St.
Vito (Sicily) bear►ng east-south-east, six leagues,
she swceped towards us, and attacked his Ma-
jesty's ketch. 1 have the.honnur to be, &c.
W. KNI6HT (2), Lieutenant.

Wertlainsteri. May 4, 1813:
ilis.Royal HighlIVAS the Pr rice Regent has been please 3,
in the name and on the behalf of his Majesty, to appoint
Sir William G.arrow, Kut. his Majesty's :.latc Solicitor-Gene-
ral, to hehis Majesty's Attorney-General.
.• .
His Royal Highness the Prince Regent has also been
plea4o.l, in the name anti on the behalf of his Majesty, to ap-
point Robert Dallas 14:sq. oue of hiS Majesty's.Cotinsel, and
late Chief-Justice of :Chester, to • be his ..141alesty's Solicitor-
Gene al.

His Royal Highness therrineellel/ent has alio been pleased,.
in the name and on the behalf of his "Alaji,ty, to appoint
lti-
chard Richards, Esq. one of his Majesty% Counsel, ;to be Chief
Justice of Chester.

Office of Ordnance, filny.4.
Medical Establishment fur the Military Department of the
Ordnance. , •
Temporarf-Assistant-Sprgeon Joseph Pri,est to be Second As- •
sistant.Surgeon, vice Btowne, deceased.
Commissions signed by his Royal Highness the Prince
'gent, in the Bathe and on helutli of his Majesty.
Henry Savage, Gent. tp be Adjutant- to the Eastern Regiment
of Dorsetslure Local Militin, vier. Utalty, resigned.
Commissions iu the Derbyshire Local Militia, signed 'by the
• Lord Lietitenant.
Bel per Regiment.—Captain Hunter Hunter, vice
Hall, promoted; and Capt. James Fletcher, vice Crompton,
prompted, to be Majors.—Lieut. J, tle;:cher to be Cal .lain,
vice Statham, resigned.—Ensign E. rilvton, vice
resigned,
promoted, Ensign T. Moore, vice Ward, resigd, Ensign
W. Wilkes, vice Frost, -resigned, Ent....,711 W. rice
Harrison, resigned, Ensign John Wright, vice Harvey, re
signed, 0. Newman, Gent. vice Wafter, resigned, .1. GU-
,
ram, Gott. vice Titrton, piomoted, 'l. Wrag-g, Gent. rice
Moore, promoted, E. Wheatley, Gent. vice Wilkes, promot-
ed, J. Whysall., Gent. vice Harrison, promoted. Peter
Brown. Gent. vice Wright; promoted. T. Wilders, Gent.
vice Viilllatns, resigned, to be Lie.utemints. • .
Derby Itegitneut.—Lient.John Wallis,
.rire deceas-
ed; Lieut. Francis Seveine„vi,:e atliSVn, resigned; Lieut. J.
. Oakes; jun, vine When., resigned, Lient. O. Priteltz.,:vice
. Swift, resigned, to be Captatus.—Ensign 0. Wallis, rice
gmery, resigned, to Ire Lientenatit..— Henry Co,'Cos' (sent. J.
Whitelmrst, jun. Gent. to be Ensigns.
Wirksworthltegiment.—E. flownes, Gent:lt. Gregory, Gent.
T. Pearson, oent, to be Lieutenants,
o,„mmissions signed by the Lard Lieutenants of the North
-11iiiing, of Yorkshire.
North York Militia,—R. Bell, :Ebi. vice Constable, resigned,
.to he'Captain. • • '• • • •
let Regiment of North York Local Swetnam, Gent.
Vice Richardson, Rajph Lodge, Gent..viee Speueeley, to be,
Ensign's. •
, . .
Cothruussion signed by the Lard. Lieutenant of the. County of
Hants.
DOgmersfield Troop of Yemnam•y Cavalry.—P. Mildmay, Esq.
,tp be. Lieutenant.
Commissions signed by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of
Lincoln.
H. Smith,,Esq. to be Deputy Lieutenant.. •
Loveden Regiment of Local Militia.—S. Barrowcliffe, Gent.
to be .Ensign.
Linds4y; Kesteven,,,and. Lincoln Regiment.—T. Mason, Esq.
F. Fair, Etq, Greetham, Esq. and W.,Hall, Eici, to be
Captains,-1. Lansdale Milites Gent. John Conitington,
Gent. W. Blytlf, Gent, J. W. Undiling, Gent. W.,Jerriims,
Gent. C. Barber, 'Gent. and B. Straw, Gent. to he Liefi-
tenunts.—.l. liarquiton Gent; to htijinsign.
Cotinnissions signed by die Lord.Lieutenant.of the County of
,
borset4hircltcgirpent Wyatt; Gent. vice Beale,
resignod, to he Ensign.
Eastern Battalion of Dorietsliire Local Militia.—Sir W. Wal-
ter Yea, li4rt. to be 11.4j0r, vice Schuyler, resigtittl.--.l.lents.
R. iluckland, vice Pascals, resigned, .1. Boys Tucker, _vice
Vowel!, deCeased,, J. Harrison, vice Stiliitigileet, resinlved,
"B. L. Lester', Esq. viee Bowles, resigned, to be Calitains.—
P. Bastard, Gent. vice Browne; resigned, S. Smith, Gent.
vita:Thick, resigned, T. Tonikitts, Gent. vice king, resign.
ed, F. F. Wragf, Gent. .vice Read, resigned, Ensign Ed-
ward Hooper, vice Duch-land, promoted, to be Lieutenants.
Wellsteed, Gent, ti, be Ensi•in, vice Godwin. resigned.
C. Llaskett, Gent. to be Sargent!, vice Druitt, resigned.
CoMmissionsiti the Ist Regiment of Bedfordshire Local Milio

.
. ' signed by the Lord Lieutenant.
Ensigns;iP. J. Budd, vice Ledford, resigned, And G. J.-Burn-
Nrunnintr,, retigned, to Le Licutonants.
CoPimissinu in the .adth or Ayrshire Regiment of Militia,

sigtect.hy the Lord Lieutenint of the t:otility of

A. 111.Ilonde'rson, Gent. to he Ensign; vice Shectaon, iti)point-
ed to the Line.
Commissions in the Berwickshire Regiment of Militia, signed

by thk i w 4 Lieufenant

Ensign 3. Dods to b'el,ieutenarit, vice Chrieshson,
—if. M. Ilnrthwiek to be Ensign, vice 1)ods, promot4A.
Caitunibsion in the. fladdingtou'llire Itegitnent of 14ettl Mi-
litia, signed by the Lord Lieutenant. '
Ensign 1. Oliver to lye Lieutena.nt.—Adatit Bt rn, Gent. W.
I)ufici, Gent. P. Sherrelf Gent. Sherreff, Gcnt. to be
Ensigns.

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