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or any other portion of the House of Lords should be ex-
cluded from that House. That was the view he took of
this subject, and upon that view it was, that without deli-
vering any final judgment upon the subject, being perfectly
ready to come to a deliberate vote upon the subject when-
ever it should be presented to him as a Member
of the Legislature, but not wishing to compromise his
own opinion that would bind him to vote either one way
or the other. He trusted, therefore, that it any p cu-
barite whatever should mark this meeting, it would be
their. unexampled and silent forbearance under the late
peculiar excitements, arising from their best hops havine
been for a short time disappeinted. He should hive been
glad to have found in the resolutions something to show
an anxious desire that Ministers should not flinch one iota
from that course with which they had started nut, by which
the rights and liberties of the people would he effectually
accomplished. He should hive been glad to have seen in
the resolutions the expression of the confidence of the
people in his Majesty's Ministers; and he would say,
with respect to the intuitions of Government, that
although he had the honour of holding office, if they re-
treated one particle from the Bill, he pledged himself to
the meeting that he would no longer be connected with
them.—(Tremendous cheering.) With this pledge he
trusted the meeting would not doubt his sincerity, and he
trusted that the meeting would refrain from any-
thing like violence of language in their resolutions.
With respect to the imputation of the motives of the House
of Peers in throwing out the Bill, he must observe that
the House of Commons had sent up to the Peers a Bill,
which they had a right either to adopt or reject, and he
could not think it right to impute to them " faction, self-
interest, and thirst of immoderate power."—(Cries of
"Oh yes, we have a right to do that.") He trusted the
meeting would not impute unworthy motives to any man,
but would content themselves with the assurance, that
upon the next occasion Ministers would take such
measures as would secure the passing of an equally
if not more efficient measure. He trusted, for these rea.
eons, she meeting would suffer the Gallant General's se-
cond resolution to be omitted, because he thought it essen-
tial that all the proceedings should be marked with that
good sense and moderation which became a country
like England.—(Lund cries of "No, no, we can't omit
it, we must have it.")
General Joirssoer thought it incumbent upon Mr. Ten-
nyson, or any other gentleman who wished to propose an
amendment to his resolution, to make that amendment
known. But after the resolution had been put to the
meeting, and so many hands held up in favour of it, he
thought it a little out of order for any person to address
the meeting on the question.
The HIGH SHERIFF then put the second resolution, and
declared it to be carried by a great majority.
The HIGH SHERIFF then put the third resolution to the
meeting, and
Mr D. HEBB rose. He thought the meeting should
take care they did not get into error, and the error he was
afraid of was this, if he understood the requisition it was
for the purpose of advocating a Reform in the House of
Commons, and that if the meeting attempted to Reform
the House of Lords they should he doing that which they
ought not to do.—(Tremendous confusion, and cries of
" We won't hear him, we won't hear him.")
The Hier! SHERIFF begged of the meeting to allow Mr.
Hebb to proceed, for if the speeches were to be continually
interrupted, it would be dark before the meeting was ended.
Order was in some degree restored, and
Mr. HEBB again attempted to address the meeting.
He thought that care should be taken not to lose the
main question, and that the meeting should confine them-
selves to Reform in the House of Commons, and that Re-
form in the House of Lords would conic hereafter.—(Here
the confusion was indurable, and " Off, off," resounded from
all parts of the meeting.)
The HIGH SHERIFF again interfered, and begged
the meeting to allow Mr. Hebb to proceed.
Mr. HEBB amidst great confusion, stated that he hail
no objection whatever to agree to the first and third resolu-
tions, but he could not coincide with the second.—(Loud
cries of " We won't hear you, we won't hear you, off, off.")
The HIGH SHERIFF then put the third resolution, and
declared it to be carried unanimously.
C. K. TUNNARD, Esq. and HEALS, Esq. rose to
address the meeting at the Caine moment, but the latter gen.
Venal gave way.
Mr. TUNNARD then addressed the meeting. He was
glad to see that any differences of opinion that existed at
the meeting had been shown in so good-humoured a tnan-
nes. That was the only way to secure the object the
meeting had in view.—(Cheers.) The duty, however, he
had now to perform, he was happy to say, was a pleasing
one, and one on which he was sure there would be no dif-
ference of opinion. He should have thought the unanimity
displayed at the last county election, would have shewn to
the country the anxiety of the county for Parliamentary
Reform. He should have thought thas the great number
of the House of Commons who had voted in favour of the
Reform Bill would have shown the House of Lords the
necessity for passing of that measure. It bad pleased their
Lordships, however, to reject that Bill.—(Cries of " The
Bishops, the Bishops.") From what cause he knew not, but
it was evident their Lordships had not given that measure
a patient hearing. If they had any objections to the de-
tail of the Bill, those objections ought to have been
made, instead of summarily rejecting the Bill in the manner
they had dune. He loved the Constitution in its pristine
purity—in its proportion of Kings, Lords, and Commons.
We seek not to interfere with the Lords, and why then
should they seek to interfere with the people's own
House of Commons?—(Cheers.) When the people looked
at the two last reigns, and saw the great number of Peers
created, they did not object to that, because they knew
that as long as a proper connection was kept up
it mattered not ; but it was not to the House of Com-
mons that the people looked for the wished-for
Reform, and if the Peers would not attend to the wishes
of the people, there were but two measures that could be
resorted to--the rejection of certain Right Rev. Prelates
from the House —(Cries of" Away with thein")—or there
must be such en accession of Peers as would carry the
measure.—(Cheers.) He would say good humouredly
that two roads lay open for the meeting—one crooked, full
of gates and heavy tolls, bad roads, bad inns, and rotten
boroughs, where, if you call for a little of the home-
brewed you are sure to find it savoured of the malt-tax.
The other road was open and straight, without gates and
tolls, it was what he would call the high road to Reform,
but the road he bad previously referred to was what he
should call the " Road to Ruin."—(Loud cheers.) He
was sure.the present meeting would join with him in giv-
ing thanks to his Majesty's Ministers for the efficacious
measures which they had brought before Parliament, and
would also join with him in expressing their confidence in
them shortly to bring forward as efficacious a mea-
sure as the one that had been rejected—a Bill that
will give to the country that prosperity which it had
been so long deprived of, and which would give happi-
ners to all his Majesty's subjects.—(Cheers.) Much had
been said about a re-action in the country, and that no
Reform was required, because the system worked well.
Was eight hundred millions of debt a system that proved
it worked well ? Was the payment of thirty-eight
millions—the interest of that debt—a proof that it worked
well ?—(Cheers.) Certainly not. If the meeting wished
for a reduction of taxation, and for the peace and pros-
perity' which hid for so many years departed from this
once happy land, they must encourage Ministers to perse-
vere in the good cause which they had begun.—(Loud
cheers.) Mr. Turmand concluded by proposing the tollow-
ing resolution:—
. That this meeting feels the most perfect confidence in the in-
tegrity and talents of his Majesty's present Ministers, and in their
perseverance in the cause of Reform, on the success of which
mainly depends the peace and welfare of these kingdoms."
A. BOUCHERETT, Esq. seconded the resolution.
General Jorretsoes submitted that the whole sense of
the resolution that had just been proposed was embodied
in his first resolution, which had already been passed. He
objected to the using of the word " confidence," for sorry
was he to say that he had not that confidence in his Ma-
jesty's Ministers which he wished he had, because he
did not see any measures adopted that were likely
to carry a similar measure to that which had been
rejected.-7(Cheers.) If be could see any thing that
him, as to the course intended to be pursued
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then addressed the meeting. He felt
it his duty not to give a silent vote on the present occa-
sion. He had been an advocate for Reform ever since he
had any reflection. He was second to no mate in admi-
ration of the conduct of his Majesty ; and as far as re-
garded his Ministers, he was determined to give them every
support that lay in his power, firmly believing that there
were not a more honest, upright, and talented set of men
to be found in the country.—(Cheers.) With respect
to the Noble Lord at the head of the legal department, in
his (Mr. H.'s) opinion, he was a complete phoenix—a man
who only came once in an age.—(Loud cheers.) Lord
Grey in his way was a great phcenix too, he had been a
steady Reformer during the whole of his life.--(Cheers.)
No man felt more respect than he did for Lord Althorp ;
but for the purpose of carrying this great measure, lie did
not certainly consider him the fittest man in the
world to manage it through the House of Commons. It
was an old saying, that " you should fight the
devil with his own weapons. Now he (Mr. IL) con-