The Sun.
London, England, 1809-02-14 00:00:00

VoLOYEL NOTI3.

The first contained' an apology for wit waiting upon Mrs.
Clarke in consequence of haviog b. en from town, and nut
receiving her card till Thursday, and a promise to call the
firil. iolenpon it was possible fur huh to ViSit her.,
Tfic second was marked private, and began by assuring
Mrs.. Clarke that the writer would be/happy to bring about
the auidence she wished of the Prince of Wales on Friday.
He returned a-thousand. thatiks for the loan of her seal, of
which he had taken-an impression, and expressed much ad-
miration of, the sprightly device. Nothing but indisposition
could have prevented his and he condemned 6onte
persons severely, who had been indignant or laughing at Mrs.
Clarke ; observing, at the saute time, that in the first litter-
views he had had with her, her cQnthsel was such as -to en-
title her to lus'warinest,esteern and respect. : • ••
DUKE OP YORK'S 1.E1i7E115.
•

The first, dated Aug. 4, 1805, 'was addressed to
Mrs. CLARKE, at Worthing
Row can I sufficiently: exress to my sweetest, My dar-
ling love, the. pleasure and delight of her excellent and pretty
letter. • A million and a Malign of thanks, my. angel, for
this kindness, which my heart acknowledges in its love for
yOu.. 1 am hurt. my love did not go to the Lewes Races. I t
was kind of my dear love to think_ of the on the occasion,.
bin she knows me too well to think"l can bear the ilea of
adding to her sacrifices, which 1 am too sensible she has
Made to me. News, my angel, you cannot expect frotn
hence, where the sainf.ness attbrds little subject for a letter.
There is nobody here that I know except the Chesterfield
family and Ourselves. Cartwright and I went to the' Play
lastoighti which went oil better than before. O'Mara wishes
to preach before royalty. 1 Will do what I dint° gratify his
desires., How long the time., appears since we parted, itty
darling, and Ito w anxiously do I look to Wednesday se'rmight,
when 1 shall again return to my angel.—Yout's and your's,
alone. ,

The 2.4 th of :August was the date of- the second
letter, to the following effeet I

How can [Sufficiently express my delight in hearing from
you. 0 ! my Angel ! never was woman adored as you,are.
How long and tedious is Cie time since we parted, and how
I long for the day after to.morrow, when I shall again clasp
My darling in my arms. Chivying is mistaken in his idea
that secolA battalions arc tobe raised ; you may tell him so,
and that it is impossible to comply with his request. I thank
you for the handkerchiefs, they ate very-pretty, and you may
conceive the pleasure I halve in wearing them, and ihinkins
of the dear hands that made theM. The day behue yesterday
I took a Survey of DOver and the Coast, from whence I had a
pretty view of the French camp. Yesterday evening.. I re.
viewed the camp, and the I 4th Dragoons, and afterwards
for regiments of Militia, which rook hie 13 hours. shall
have nearly as much tc-morriy*. •my deafest,
sweetest love
Your's, anti your's alone.

Mr. DOGUETITY was calfra in, and examined.

Q. By Mr. WARDLS.—boes the wittiess recollea
or, know. any thing of a iransa6tion relative to the
pnrChase of a service of plate, sent to Gloncester-
place.—A.
. .

Q. I ‘‘ish thowitness to state what he. knows 6f
that business, from the commencement to the con-
clusion of the bargain Not beingyresentwhen
the bargain was made, I cannut speak of it with.ac-
curacy.
Q. What was the charatier of the. witness in the
house at the titue when the purchase ..wds,mad:: ?
A. was a servant.

Q. What was the particular business on, which he
was employed ?—A. To superintend a part of the
COileerp. ,

Toes the witness recoliea.ttny particulars, of
his own knowledge, respeaing the service of plate?
—A. Nothing further titan what was tnentioned.by.
Mi. 13irketh

Q. Dies the witness mean to atate,that -neither
the Duke'of York nor Mrs. Clarke, did iin.his pre-
sence examine or enter' into any negotiation about
thatplale Certainly not,
I wish the witness to state what he did hear
the DuLe of York.. :ti vi Mrs. Clarke soy when bar-
gaining for I the plait ?—A. The bargain was not
made in my presence.
Q. Then tie never did hear what was said by
thern.?—A. Certainly I.did not. . .
Q. Can the witness recollea what passed be-
tween
him and Mr. 'Dirket I, respeting the borgain?
On the Motion of the Attorney General' the wit-
ness was ordered to withdraw-. •
The Ai7roaN EY. GEN tioA,t. Matta' biaotrjeetions to
the question. He conccived that At tu)ght be at-
tended with very dangetoui sconsmitleipzs, if, on
an inquiry of, such importtl(lCP as the present, the
Committee was to twelve as evidence the assertion
'of one peoph tespet3log4 he. statemcnt of another •
who was dead, and. by whom.therefore that state-
went could never be either concurned or contra-.
dieted:
Lord TcatztJt, *bile he admitted that it would
be preferable, contd. the evidende of Mr. Varkett him-
self be adduced, yet as.that. Was impossiOrles,thought
that the CoMmittee should accept of the best evi-
dunce the case -
FoLuitt spoke loudly against the proposed ,
question. •
Mr. LaYtAs'rEtt begged, 'the Committee to con-
sider what would be the effect of putting the slues-
lion, The answer to it would go out to the public as
fad, while it would be impossible for the Committee:
to attach to it any serious value. If the question
were put, it would be in opppsition to all rules of
ovidence.

WAnDtx, as be found the Learned Gentle-
men Opposite were so hostile to his question, •would
endeavour to get at the fags which he wished to
establish, through another medium.
Mr. Si/;11118mm) denied that such a strip rule of
evidence existed in the tioute'of Commons, as that
stated by the, Learned Gentleman. 1)1 t his be was
sure, that the Learned Gentleman; at whose sug-
gestion the witness was ordered twwithdruw, .114t1
in the course of his former examinations un this
aubjeCt,' deviated at least as much from the strl
/int: of evidence, and produced testimony quite as
loose as that against the production of which be had
now argued.
LoycasTatt insisted on thenacessity of draw-
ing a line, although he admitted that the Committee
was not bound so stri6tly with resped to the nature
of. the evidence which they might admit, as the
Courti of Justice. -'

Mr. Ftrciant declared, that any principle of exa-
niination that deviated from the principles-establish-
ed in the Courts of Justice, was a party principle.
The principles on which Courts of Justice proceeded
'were most ‘vise,'atur a deviation from them must be
.attended with error.

Mr. Dogherty WAR then again called in, and his
examination proceeded. _

Q. What situation did the witness hold at the
time when the purchase of the service of plate a•Js
mute ?—A. A journeyman.
(1. Did he know, of his own knowledge, that the
pLite wa. ptireilaßt'd 01 Mr. Dirkett ?—A. Ceitainly.
DoLs he know, of his, own knowletlire, toe
rho that Wag agreed on ?—A. The books th,“ have
been already befure the Conunitiee biota sheon that.
Q. Doua the witness know, of his own know.

. .
ledge, without a reference to the books ?—A. Cer-
tainly not.
Q. Then the witness doe's .not know, of his own
knowledge, the sum that was to have been paid, or
that was paid for that service of plate I—A. I do
not know exa&ly the sum.
Q. Did he know to whom tfie plate,belonged be-
fore it was sent to Gloucester-place ?—A. 'Yes.
Q. To whom ?—A. To the Duke of Clarence..

Q. Does the witness recollect- any part 'of the
plate being sent to Gloucester-place for the inspee-
Lion of the Duke of York and Clark.e ?—A. Not,
to my recolletkion.
Q. Does the witness recolte& either the Duke' of
York or Mrs. Clarke's being at Birkett's, and exa-
mining the plate in the shop i—A. No:
Q. Does the witness recollect any thing with re-
gard to the *mem of the plate ?—A. Yes,
-Q.. I wish the witness to state what be does recol-,
tect?-4. recollect 5,001. having been paid in ready
money, and the remainder by bills at various dates.
Q. By Whom was the 5001. in the first instance
paid ?—A. I don't recollect.
Q. How was it paid ? in cash, or in bank notes
or how ?—A. In two notes, one of 3001. and the
other of 2001.

Q. The witness has'stated that the remainder wag
paid by bills at different dates. By whom,were those
bills drawn ?—A. To the-best of my recollection
Mrs. Clarke.
Q. On whom were they drawn ?—A. Oa the'
Duke of York.
Q. Of the witness's own knoWledge does he
know that these bills were afterwards paid by the
Duke of York ?.—Certainly I do.
Q. Did the winless himself offer the bills to kb,
Duke of York for payment ?—A. 144!.
Q.. Did he see the Duke of York at the. time ihit
he offered the bills for payment ?—A. Yes.
Q. Does the witness recede& what conversatlO
passed between the Duke of York and himself at 101
tune ?—A. I do not.
Q. Does the witness recolle& that the Duke of
York ever spoke to him at all respeOing the saiiiLe
of•plate?—A.• No, I do not.
Q. How did the Duke of York settle the
A. By his own drafts on emits.
Q. Does the witness mean to state that the whole,
amount due for the service of plate over and 3130V4
the boo'. paid in the first instance, was then paki
by the Duke of York ?—A.. Certainly.
Mr. Dogberty was then, ordered to withdraw.
Mr. Parker was called in, lie brought Mr. Birkett's
books with him,- and probed the existence of ail
Account on the Debtor's -side, for goods to tIIP
value of 18'211. I ! s 4d. and on the credit side of
payments to Aiwa amount, in the manner stated by
the last 'Witness.
Mr. .WARDLe having finished this case, immedi-
ately proceeded to that of Colonel Shawe. The first
witness examined was Mrs. Hovenden. Her testi-
many was to the followip _g . •
Q. By Mr. WARDLE.—Does the witness know
Mrs. Clarke ?—A. Yes.
Q. Does she know' Colonel Shawe ?—A. I siev2r
saw him but once.
Q. What passed at that interview I had
been for sotee time negotiating with Mrs. Clarke tee
an exchange for Mpior Slpitic, and .he begged 14,3,.
know the principal. 1 told him Mrs. Clariim but
particularly entreated he would not ,tell Mrs. Clarke
that. Donovan knew 'arty thing of the inattc.r.
Q. ..Itep6r what passed at your 'interview
Colonel Shawe ?—A. That was all, except my &iv.,
ing a card or pote, I know not -Which, to -Alas.,
Clarke, 'merely to say that was Major Simve.

U. Vllilt reason had the witness to the that.
ter to be kept secret froitt „Mr. Mrs:
Clarke said she Dottovatt thigh ineuttoll
it to the Duke ot York, ‘‘hielt would be her rum.

Q. When did Nits. Clarke express that felt. ?-1.4%...
The first time 'hit I say., tier.
Q. Was that ty!ture the witness mentioned
Shawe to Mrs. Clarke A. Yes. _

•Q. Ild.the witness ever mention Colonel Shawa
to Mrs. Clarke until alter the interview 'sl3
112 d with the former ?—A.' I had seen Colooet
SA we but once, and Mrs. Clarke but twice stocec
' Q. I say, did the • witness ever, mention Coliwet
Shawe to Airs. Clarke_ until after the interview sh&
had with the torttter )—A. I have mentioned Nl;Jjor
Shm.ve to NI rs. Clarke three months before I saw 11110.
Q. In what wily did you mention Major Sim"
to Mrs. Clarke i—A. As a Gentleman who widted
to,get,a Lieutenant-Colouelcy. , .
ck,. How did the witness know that ?,—A.
I had seen Mrs. Clarke, I mentioned to Mr. Doeidr
van, whom I had known for twiny years, that I'
had gut very great interest, and that it' any pt his
friends wanted any thing in the army line, I tliongt)t
I should be able to procure it for them. .•
Q. Was it Mr. Donovan whO mentioned Colonel
6bawe to the witness ?-f-A. Yes. • .

Q. What did Mr. Donovan state of Col. glitiw-e. t-
-A. He said that he was strongly reeurntriendeti,'
and particularly by General Burrows.
Q. What further Ile &lid he would
.7601: for a Lieutenant-Colonelcv.
Q. ni,l Mr. Donovan tell the witneLis nnv i 1414:
'fiirtber respeeling Colonel S:l4We ?—A. •
(a, Whore did the conversation; w lila the witir2°
has mentioned, pass hi. Charles-street, S'•
Jarnes's-quare.
U. Ana+in consequence' of that conversation the
wituesi applied' to Mis. Clarke ?—A.• Yes. , _
Q. When she applidd to. Mrs. Clarke :Nivas there
any pat Ocular sum. promised to her, provided the
Lieutenant-Colonelcy should he obtained ?—A.
(4. What was done in consequende of her aPpkd-,
Lion ,Nothing at all.
Q. Did the bnsiness break off;or did it die away ?
—A. On the night of the day when J saw Alr3.
Clarke .I received a note from her, in which she said
she could do nothing unless she knew his person and
his forme. I returned for answer that I wits nut
able to describe his person, but that I uriderstood big
fortune was considerable. Mrs. Clarke said that
that would dn, and promised to try the feeling ofihe
Commander in Chief on the subject.
-Q. Had- the witness another interview with CO..'
lonel Shawe ?—A. Yes.

Q. • lid t;he then relate to Colonel Shawe wh:lt
passed between Mrs. Clarke and - herself?--A. I
don't think I 'did.

Q. I tePcat, did the busitms bleak °lron any par:
tienlar citeomstance, or did it die away ?--A•
knew nothing of the' termination of it, excel,:
owe which 1 have before mentioned.

Q. Did the witness comp,am tt ht!Chtotiel Shawe
broke his word by never mAlilg her a preterit
A. Never ; because he did make- ape a. present.
Q. What wat,the arnouni ut that present ?—A. He
wtnte a note to me, with ilia comtiliments, and that
he was ery sorry I had' had so much trouble, and
enclosed a ten pound note,

Q. What was the date 9f: the transaction which
the w tness has been speaking of ?—A. The tirit
time that I saw Mrs. Clarke wits to 't sole
Q li is (tie xithess eVer seen and convened
.with
Mr. Donovan on 'this subject LA.xI cannot re-4:0i-
le".
Q.
. '• • 'the w'ritile's; IMUst . te
to state the date o' 1 the
transaction, of which she has been speaking ?-4. .As
near as I can guess it, was betWeed'll2ceinber t 804
and April•lBos. ' . ''y ' '
, . (a. Does the witness, .of .her qwn knowledge,
190 w any thing further _of 4W-fumed bet ween .1*•,1:1-
Jet:
,Shawe suet
w Mr. Doepvelt, in Iliac, husiness :
-A. Ido t. -.
Q. Was the witness in the habit' Of eortesponding
with Colonel Shawe ?,--A; •I have! written letters to,
him fregeeedy... Tee period .of lik, negotiation was,
protraeted, and he was himself in grent. suspense..
, . Q. Has the witness any of Colouel's Shawe's ler-
! ters )—A. No. -I returned- t 1 whole of them to
Mr. Denovan.. , ~.;. . -•-•• . . •`
(4- alt what period ,did she return them to Mr,
, .
amovan ?-'--A: I tieteVe shortly after I had s, en
Bari. Clarke. , ~.' .. . ..1.- . . .
Q. How came the witness to realm Colonel
Shawe's ktters to Mr.rDonovan ?—,A. Mr. bon°.
'van sail, that he wished, an end to the. business, as
he was convinced that Mrs: t[,4k,e could domathing
.
in it.'
Q. Does the witness know any thing further of
the transaaion which took place,afterwards betw,geri
Mrs. Clarke and Colonel "Shit%%; i=L--A. • I no'noi: '
Q. By 'Mr. DetiletS littoWiiit.--Duei the watiesi
know •personally .Miss Taylor ? —A. I have 'seen
Miss Taylor. She came to my house one clay
,with
..
• her hther, Cape T.410r..
, , .
. , Q. What do you know •of the ch'inetaer or rephte
' of Mitts Taylor, of %Petit- owl] knowledge ?—A. It is
I. • bard' o Speak 'frOm hearsay; :Of My own knowledge
. I know nothing. . .
.
0.• By Mr. DENNiS BitowNE.—Did the witness
ever tell any one that MisiTiiVlor was a person of
bad repute?—A. I,oktainly di'cf`say that I could not
return Miss Taylor's visitsrus. I had beard something
unpleasant abouner. -•--
• U. Wes the' witness :know precisely what thoie
unPleniant'clitttinstancert-eie of which she heard ?
---A. I only know,fronrhedrsay ; but I suppose I am
not obliged to tell any thing but that which I know
myself.
Q. We'uhl the witness, from her knowledge of
Miss Takirit, believe her evHence ?—A. 'I declare I
don't see hciw I tin answer such -a 'tries; ionets that.
It is merely 'matter of 'opinion- }cannot sayer '
Q. BySir Louis GRAHAM—Where dues the wit-
, mess live ?-----A, 'At. Nii,-2t.); Villiers-street. '
Q. How long has she lived there ?-41. Not'quite
• -three MOM hs: .
~, Q. Where has she fermerly lived ?—A. In'Sceath
Alolton-streci.
Q 'How long di'l she live in Smith Moltoe-street ?
`''A. Upon ow word I cannot reColltel.
Q. Cannot she recoiled how long she liVed there?
Pie-A. No. • •
44-• 4,iw long 11:14 the witness generally lived in
any iyit, at ._
d' I,t :---A. I liVe'd fur a eensiderable time
in Panton-ri'llare.
• Q. roc waat length of time ?—A. Two years and
.3 half.
Q. .. wl .len did she leave P won-squire ?—A. In
Junf: 1803.
' '• Q. Did the witness live there when she visited
IVlrs. Clarke, i—A. I never visited Mrs. Clarke. •
- A.. Did Mrs. Clarke visit the witness ?—A. No.
Q. Why, when did the witness see her ?—A. I
' • went to her on business.
Q.- Has the %%Pitiless before stated to .he Commit-
tee all the business site ilaS had with Mrs. Clarket?—
it. No; I have not. •
1 Q. I wish/the witness to state 'what other busi-
.•
mess she has had with Mrs. Clirke ?—A. The other
business I had with Mrs. Clarke related to Cemmis-
siohs for Gentlemen whose names have- never yet
beep mentioned, and which
_commissions Mrs.
Clarke did not obtain. •
Q., State the names of those other Persons.
oil the motion of Sir.ll4.lND., the witness was
Ordered to withdraw. .
Mr. Baattio objected to the questinfi. It seemed
to bun uatieLes:ary to state the names of persons
• against whom no charge existed, as was evident from
• the witness having herself said that they had not yet
1 • been mentioned. He thought it extreniely untair
to put such.a question to' a person et whose veracity
the Committee could not but have increasing doubt.
Her loose statements might be of- seriouS detriment
to many tespee.table persons, and if the Him. 13ii-
ronet persisted in his question, he should feel lt 'his
duty to take the sense of the Committee 404 n it.
Sir J . Ga ARAN! declared that he had no Tither. view
. in the question but that which related to the general
course of the proceeding.
Lord I'OO:STONE expressed his astonishment at
1 ' the objeCtion that had been made, The Committee
' . ‘144 instittited for the express purpose of inquiring
to
ab
in •
~ uses, and many-great abases had already been
•
toscuvercd. Here, however, was' a question` which
Ar°rolied to lead to the development ofiurther and
more e flo, agrant abuses, and.now the Bon. Gentleman
got ek
p object to its being put. Whoever referred
to 'the instrnaions that the Committee` had received
Irdit the House must be convinced that the question
Was a good one, and ought' to be Proposed.
Mr. BRAND, obServed, that tee- witntls had dis-
,
tinily stated. that no proceeding had taken,place; as
therefore no injury to the public had resulted, to ie-
quire into the subject would be only attended with
i inconvenience.
A short conversation then took place between Mr.,
ii; • I . . seller, Mr.' Whitbread and Mr. Canning, after• '
:. , ' , Which the witnesss was again called to the Bar.
t
Sir JAmss Gamiati.i.--Desire the Avirness to state
the mares -Of those other persons to wham she al-
' ludo '---A. There was never any thing done for
- them. There names were entrusted to me.
. • Sir 3. GRARAM.—Stftte their names. . % •
On the motion' of General STEWART, the witness
.N,. . Was orderethe withdraw. ' ,
. Genera STEWART deprecated a further perse-
yerake in the' quest ion. Manytespe&able'Otheets