The Sun.
London, England, 1836-12-19 00:00:00

HOLLAND.

THE HAGUE, DEC. 10.
SECOND CHAMBER OF THE STATES.GENIZRAL.
The Central Section made its Repot on the budget for
1837.

This Report is of great length, and goes into details,
which appear in a more complete form in the debates which
will commence on the 14th of this month.
It appears from this Report that the Government, in
compliance with the wishes of a great number of the mem-
bers, has consented to insert in the budget for 1837 the
following articles :

" According to ihe first article, the law of the 24th of
April, 1836, so low,' as the division of the debtland the
emission of the bonds shall not have taken place, the sum
of 5,600,000 florins (2d division, sub-division A, of chap.
IX.) shall be provided for the Treasury by the finances of
the transmarine possessions. This will be the second ar-
ticle of the law, and what now stands as the second, will
be the third."

AMSTERDAM, DEC. 10.
We understand that arrangements have been made be-
tween the Qovemments of France and the Netherlands for
the free and 'uninterrupted direct correspondence between
France arga Holland, so that the letters from Paris will ar-
rive 'and be delivered here in forty-two hours.
We bear from Tilburg, that the police has lately had the
good fortune to arrest a person who had been guilty of
writing incendiary and threatening letters ; he was arrested
in the very act of taking up some money, which, in conse-
quence of one of his letters, was deposited in the ground.
We learn from Grave, that the accounts inserted in several
journals representing the town Of Grave as having so se-
verely suffered by the late hurricane that it -seemed as if a
bombardment had taken place, was much exaggerated, the
damage being confined to the b!owing off a quantity of tiles
and throwing down some chimnies. The great arsenal and
the church suffered the most.

HAMBURG BORSEN HALLE, Dr.c. 13.
Bills Money.
Austrian Metalliques, 5 per cent.
Ditto ditto 4 per cent.
Ditto ditto 3 percent.
--
Ditto Bank Shares 1319 1348
Anglo-Russian Loan l(k.)% lip 94
raper Inscription, $ per cent - -
Russian 5 per cents. Metal. -744 17734,
Russian Inscription, Hope and Co., 34 and 4th

__
Series 9434 ',414
Ditto, Certificates . 94Ni 94%
Portuguese Regency Bonds, 5 per cent —
1 htto, 3 per cent ..734 t 9
Dutch 2yi per Cents.
.
Ditto 5 per Cents —.
Polish Bonds, 3 per cents
New Tickets 152!4 152%
Anglo-Danish Loan, 3 per cents 71% Norwegian Loan of 1834, 4 per cents.
Spanish, in piastres, 3 per Cents —
Cortes Loan, 5 per Cent 15!.,i 18%
Greek 4 per cents. 1533, guaranteed by France 92 91
Fl EXCANES LNDON.
amittiao, Dec. H
11.-13 G
5% ON
wo ; t moOnths, 13 4.
STOCKHOLM, DEC. 6.--TV7O months, 11 40.
CMRIsTIANIA, DEC. 3.—Three months, 411 8.
BERLIN. DEC. 10.—Three months, 6. 21%.
Sr. PETEKSBITRCH, Dtc. 2.—Three months, 10 25433.
—Hamburg Pavers, Dec. 11,
DUTCH FUNDS—.AmsTcaossf, DEC. 13.
Money. Thus.
Actual Debt, 2% per Cent 534 53%
Ditto, ditto 5 per cent.
Amor t syndic, 4g per cent. 943 94X,
Ditto, ditto, 3XI Per cent. r•• '4
77
6,4
Commercial Company, 41,4 per cent... ..... , 1 .7EN 187?Ditto (12 kind 1833) 5 per cent. .. 87 87S1
Excitant; on London, One month... ..... 12 0
Two moutvg,
lIELCaAN 1 UNDS--BnussEts, DEC. 17
Actual Debt, 234 per 'Lent.
BotliSchild's Loan. 5 per Cent. IOOV,
Loan of Thirty ',.lillions 94'4
Loan of Cit':, 1832, 4 per Cent lOl
Society of Commerce, 4 S4per Cent. 142
Bank 0'.., Belgium, 5 per Cent 132
DUTCH FUNDS.—AMSTERDAM, Dac. 16.
Actual Debt, 2ye per Cent.
Do do. 5 per Cent.
Amort Syndic 414 per Cent.,
Do. do. 3% per Cent.
Commercial Company, 43fi per Cent 179%
New ditto:.
—Brussels Papers, Dec. ls.
~
AUSTRIAN FUNDS.--VIBNNA, Dec. 9,
Five per Cents. Metalliques ............. . ............ ... lON
Four per Cents.
Three per Cents.
Bank, Shares
137'2
—4llgemeine Zeitung, Dec. 14.

AMERICA.—CANADA.
(From the Montreal Papers to Nov. 26.)
The meeting of the stockholders of the Montreal Bank
took place on Monday last, and the statement of the affairs
of that Institution is as follows :
The continuance of the Bank, and the mode in which its
business should be conducted after the Ist June next, pro-
vided its Charter was not previously renewed, were of
course the prime questions that engaged the attention of
the meeting. The decision conic to on these point 4 was

such as might have been anticipated. when the prosperous °
c)ndition of the Institution was considered. The discounts
or the Bank in November, 1885, amounted to 704,183/.4
aid at the same period this year to 692,4211. ; being a de-
crease this year of upwards of 11,0001.: again, the notes
in circulation at the former period amounted to 253,236/. ;
and at the latter period to 211,457/. ; showing a difference
of upwards of 41,000/. The amount of individual profits
is also greater by about 17,0001. this year than last.
The Quebec Gazette of Monday states that the river is
perfectly clear of ice.
(From the New York Price Current of Nov. 30.)
Exctip NGE,-A few sales have'been made for the next
at at 9 per cent. cash on England ; and Five Francs,
on France ; Bank Shares, 114} 1153,-.
Al••••••11P11

PRICES OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Bank Stock. 209% 9 I India Stock —
3 per Cent. Red. 97% % Ditto Boas lO 8 pm.
3 per Cent. Cons - Isouth Sea Stock
3% r Cent - \ Old Minnities
Dittope Red 96,4 L INew I)itto
New 3% per Cent — I 3 per Cent. Annuities, 1751...
New sper Cent. - 1 Exch. Bills, ....:I,oop 15 14 17 p-rt.
Oink LeneAnnuities to c%pire (Ditto SOO l', 17 pm.
Jail 5, .;
4,0 ...... ............ 14 11-16 Ditto Small
Oct 10, inZA) ..................... -- i Ditto Commercial — pm.
-- Bank Stock for Acconnt ...... .. Jan. 5. 15M...-. ............ ---- Ditto Advertised —pm
-- India Stock for Account
-
Jan. 5, *881... ... .... ......
April 5, 1370. .................... -,-
1 - .............. .Consols for Acconnt ........ 88,04%
0.-anium ..-. .............. ..--

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ppAciv.S OF FOREIGN FUNDSI THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
trian Y 30103 ......... • ......... ..- Peruvian Bonds , 16% 16
B Dißon:is . ........... ........ Ditto Account —
Ditto Account .. ... ........ a —1 POttiguese Bonds —
Brazilian Bonds QI34 2 Dit::, Account —
Ditto Account — Ditto 1;:ur Bonds Al 4
Buenos Ayres Bonds — Ditto Accotint 44 3%
Ditto Account - Ditto, 3 per cent —
Cltillian Bo:tds Prussian Ponds —
12tto Acco'utt .• Russian Bonds, 1821 —
Colitnat..ian Bon ii -I Ditto Account ....1.. ...........
Ditto Account
Columbian Bondl, .824......22' 1% , Spanish Bonds —
Ditto Account ..... ........... __ Ditto Account
11 :Wish Bonds ... Ditto Bonds, 1E134 20% !t134 20
Ditto Account ......... — Ditto Account ...al% iii WI 20
Greek Bonds ................. ~. French, 5 per cent.........107f. —c.
Ditto Bonds, 1825 .... --1 -----•4 per cent. —.f. —c.
Ditto Account .... i --------2 per cent. —f—c.
Mexican B __.
inds, 5 per cent 2sf. 500.
• --- Exchange
Ditto Account
Ditto, 6 per cent. .... I Ej:!to Aermint —
--
Ditto Account - —1 ntto, 4 Per cent., ....... ••• - 100%
Neapolitan —l Ditto Acc.:"lnt
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PECES OF SHARES THIS DAY AT ONE t."'CL°"'
- Paid. Per Share.
Birmingham and Gloucester Railway Company 5 ON%
/treat Western Zlailway Company EI 424' .4
Brighton Railway Company 5 7i
Brighton ( Rennie's) 3 Ili
Brighton (Cundy's) 3 I%
111.2nchester South Union Railway Company 9.
Nort.l Midland Railway Company lo
South Pastern and Dover Railway Company 2
South Brighton, Lewes, and Newhaven Railway 2
South Midland Railway Company I
London Caontchone Vompany li4
London and Westmintu:.'r Bank

PRICES OF IRISH ST 87K'
3 per Cent. Consols ........ B7N
Ditto Reduced ---
3 per Cent. Stock
953;
Ditto New IRV 9614
3% per Cent.' Debentures B9li
Kink Stock 202%
Royal Canal Stock. 35
Grand Canal Stock -

14;4
115

20%

S. DUBLIN, DECEMBER 17.
Grand Canal Deb.. 6 per cent 69%
Ditto, 4 per cent 6O
Hibernian Bank
City of Dublin Steam Co. -
National Insurance Co --
City Debentures, 4 per cent —
Ballast Office Debentures, 4
ver Cent.

MAILS.
Arrived. tlue. Arrived. Due Arrivel. Due
0 America.......... 0 2 France 0 Lisbon 0
0 Brazil 0 2 Cluorti.Saersey 0 0 Malta 0
0 Buenos Ayres 0 1 Hamburg 0 Mexico 0
0 Carthagena 0 2 Holland
2 Dublin.. ....... 0 0 JalllaiCa
2 Flanders 0 0 Leeward Islands 0 2 Waterford 0

HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO-MORROW,
Morning 0 minutes after 0. 1 Evening.....l3 minutes after 0.

HAMBURGH, Nov. 15, 18.36.
OUR Friends, and all those who may have to write
to us, are requested to be particular in directing,
HEINE BROTHERS, in HAMBURGH,
and to observe, that a letter with one inclosure doubles the Postage
only, but several inclosures would by far increase the same. Thus
10/. 20/., or 301., for instance, if remitted in One Bank of Eng-
land'Note would only cause double Postage, but 10/. remitted in
two notes, would be liable to a much higher charge. It is there-
fore most advisable, for any Person having to remit Money to Ham-
burgh, to forward the amount in One Note; or having to receive
Money from Hamburgh, to receive the same in One Note, when-
ever possible. Of course remittances from Hamburgh to England,
surpassing the usual amount of One Bank of England Note, may
rather be made in Bills of Exchange, on London.
To save expenses that may as well be avoided, we request our
Correspondents not to overlook these particulars.
HEINE BROTHERS.

The publication of Tag SUN NEWSPAPER commenced this day
at 10 minutes past Three o' Clock.

LONDON,
MONDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 19, 1836.

At the adjourned Meetings of the General Associa-
tion, which were held on Thursday and Friday last at
Dublin, Mr. O'MALLEY, in an eloquent and argu-
mentative speech, brought forward the question of a
Poor Law for Ireland. The ground-work of the
Rev. Gentleman's proposition was, that tithes should
be abolished as a provision for priest or parsons but be
preserved inviolate as a sacred provision for the poor of
the flocks of both. He then proposed resolutions to
this effect, which were seconded by Mr. SHARMAN
CRAWFORD.. Mr. O'CONNELL, in reply, acknow-
ledged the paramount importance of the subject,
and with a view to its full and dispassionate
consideration, suggested that the resolutions be
referred `to the Committee to inquire into, and
report upon, them at a future meeting. The
Hon. and Learned Gentleman then went on to argue
on the impolicy of introducing Poor Laws into Ireland,
observing, " if we find such a law of advantage, we
must get it ; if it be shown to have improved the con-
dition of the people in other countries, nothing can
resist our application for it. But if it be proved to
have been a reward to the idle and the profligate ; to
have been a poison, destroying charity at its springs
and sources, not only taking away the motives of that
best, of virtues, but the thirst of the heart to do good ti;
the poor ; if it be seen to have lowered the condition
of the pauper, and given in return the paltry mess of
pottage, and the wretched shelter of a poor-house, I
will call upon you to reject it?" Mr. O'CONNELL here.
confounds the uses, with the abuses of Poor-laws,
which is not an argumentative, but a sophistical way of
meeting the question. He infers, that because in
England, under evident mismanagement, they have
been " a reward to the idle and the profligate," that
therefore the same mismanagement must be consequent
on their introduction into Ireland ; which would be
logical enough if it were intended to introduce the
abuses only of the system into the sister-country. But
this is not the case, as none know better than Mr. O'CoN-
NELL, whose hypothesis therefore is altogether errone-
ous. But what does the Hon. and Learned Gent. propose
as a substitute for Poor Laws ? Why, the improve-
ment of the political condition of Ireland 1. This, no
doubt, is a good remedy ; but it has this besetting de-
fect, that it is a distant—far too distant—one. How
are the two millions and a half, of starving beggars to
be supported, till it has come into full operation?
If Ireland, as Mr. O'CONNELL suggests, is to
ac-
cept of her political improvements by instalments, the
existing starving millions will be swept from the face
of the earth long before the last' instalment is paid.
The plain truth is, the grievance is a pressing one, and
demands an immediate remedy. Two millions five
hunched thousand Irishmen are at this very moment
while we write, in a state not merely of destitution,
but of absolute, unmitigated starvation. What sophis-
try, however ingenious, can neutralize an argument like
this? Will Municipal Reform fill the bellies of these
wretched beings ? Will an alteration in the tithe system
clap a clean shirt on their backs, or a joint of meat on
their tables ; give them a warm turf fire to sit by, and
a draught of butter-milk to quench their thirst ? In
time, no doubt, these valuable Reforms, by tranquilliz-
ing Ireland, and causing the capital of speculators to
lbw into it, will
.effect a corresponding reform in the
condition of its poor ; but in the interim, what is to be-
come of those millions who are now starving, and of
those other millions who, in consequence of the deficiency
of this year's crops, arc on the high road to starvation ?
The wants of these people are pressing; they cannot
brook delay ; hence we agree with Mr. SHARMAN
;CRAWFORD in rile necessity of introducing forthwith
a system of poor-laws into Ireland. As for Mr.
O'CoNNELL's theory, that such a system will have the
effect of demoralising the Irish poor, we think it un-
worthy a moment's consideration, for they cannot posy

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