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OFFICE OF ORDA.W2TX,

IMPERIAL PA RL lAM ENT .

1100 E OF Loam:
MONDAY, MAY 24.

The Ltittb. CriAtkrcELLon comninnicaten tO the
House a letter he had received from the Earl of
Mint°, dated Fort William, Ist Febr,:ary, 1813,
acknowledging the receipt of their Lordships Vote
of Thanks, respecting the
.capture of the Island
of Java and its dependencies, which his Lordship
stated he had, duly forwarded to the respective
'Commanders employed ; whose answers; expres-
sive of their strong sense of so high an honour,
lie had inclosed. The Noble Eirl spoke. in op-
propriate terms of the importance or such a re-
corded approbation of the House of Lords ; and
attributed the invaluable successes referred, to
pricipally to the conduct, perseverance, and V 3-,
lour'of the troops, and their eminent Commanders.,
Thesletter was, in the usutd way, ordered to be
entered on the Journals.

•• . 31frty 14, 1813.
THE PRINCIPAL OFFICERS of His M/1-
JEsrrs ORDNANCE, do hereby give Altdicet
17441 Plop" osals will be received at their Office, in
,-;i""‘iefore Pride*, this 2.Bth day of May inst. from well
' ;d us may be wllling to undertake the .s'apply of
.:11:11Y AItrICLES for ,verrice of this Department,. for a
lfri44l ?l4rte Years, determinable at the expiration of One
~
year, upon Three ;Months' notice, at :the option of either
Party.
'pt, .f Alicia may be t;iewed upon apilit,:ation at
P4101'41 Storekeeper's Office at the 'never, and to the
ii,l4(tite Officers- At' the Ordnance, at. the hoyal itrsenal,
To °W4"6 (Tad Arther ;Particalars, together with the.
I, 144 as, tit Linnlitions of the Contract, May be known at
beti:?retaVs Office, in Pall-Mall, aforesaid, any Day
p, "the flours of Ten and Four o'clock, where the
ji;rl4l`ll* 'i',4l be de ,scaled up and ;indorsed, 6' Pro-
-3 N. Hositry Articles;" but no Proposal can' be a-
-1 4:Jailer the said .28M Day of May, at Twelve o'clock, at
ef:ti`c "1"0 Day; ;Wither any Tender be ,noticed,
104.44 rOtY malting it, or an .al gent in his Behalf shall

The Earl of DEIMY presented Petitions from
Liverpol, Manchester, and Salford, and from se-
veral other places of minor importance, in the
County of Lancaster,: in favour of the propaga-
tion of Christian Knowledge in India;
Earl GRRY from N6vcastle-upon-Tync. from
Bridgewater, and several other plaCeS in the
County of Somerset, to the same effect ; altd
The Duke ofDevoNsHi RE from Derby, linares-
borough and ChesterAuld.
The American Prize Goods Bill was read a
third time;and passed.
The Phoenix Insurance Company's Bill was
brought up -front the Commons. by Sir JAMES
S HAW' and read a first time. _ •

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.o,y Order of the Board,
R. 11. CREW, Secretary.

The remaining tills upon the table, being re-
spectively fOrwartled, the linuseadjonmed till to'
morruiv.

HOUSE OF COMMONS; •
MONDAY MAY 24,
The House. being called over pursuant to order;
strangers were not admitted till petit. six-o'clock ;
shortly after which
Mr. CREEvEY rose and stated, that wishing, in
consequence of some information given him by the
Speaker, to change the form of his- proceedings
with Respect to the late trial, in Which he was a
party, he should forego his original design of
proceeding by Petition, and would (not wishing
to interfere with the important business whieh
was now about to be brought before the HOW
-take some other day
,to make such statement as
shOuld appear to him expedient.
gome other routine business WAS then transacted,
which the tumult in the. Gallery: occasioned by the
admiSsion of too great aniuuber.of strangers,.pee7
vented us from hearing.
cATITOLIC BILL.
The Order of the hay for the further considera -
tiOn of the Report on the Roman Catholic Relief
Bill was read ; and the Bill being reTeommitted,
The SPEAKER rose, and spoke to the following.
effect it appears to me,. upon the fullest
consideration of the subject now before the Comm
mittee, that there never was one submitted to
them which made it incet»hent on them to pro-.
cecd with so 'much caution. and deliberation.---•
The ostensible object of the Bill, the vOllOll5
clauses of. which we are new to consider, is 0%1
admission of Roman Catholics to political power.
in it,Protestant 'state.---The Right Hon. Gentle-
man who was most actlve„in.. bringing the men--
- sure to its present state, and. who was among the
-principal of those concerned -.he framing the Bill,
has himself said that the .eeal object ,or it
should be to conciliate tend. Beasts, both those whO
seek for security and those who seek for power ;
he has even said, that unless mutual conciliation
and satisfaction wire .the result of it, it would not
be desirable that it should pass.. Ndsv what pro-
spect is there that such conciliation and satisfac
non. Will he the result ?"---What do the Cetholies
in Irelimd say to it Does. the Board.which sits
in Dublin, and 'which may be considered as.the
organ through Which ' their sentiments are con-.
veyed, approve ir. ? By no means, .The most clis-,
tinguished leaders of the Catholics, whoform
part .of that Board, the auxiliary delegates,.
.have loudly declared against its;.provisions.7--
Aro the Catholic Clergy 'satisfied?. Not .A whit
more than the Board, Dr. Troy, the titular
Archbishop of Dublin, has declared, that it con-
tains provisions worse than the old relo. There
is. an Apostelical Viear. of the s>-c ofßomn in this
kingdom, who is alsti the accredited egeat fbr.
the Irish Roman Catholics. What does he say
to it ? Why, that all Catholics should sooner lay,
down their lives than agree :to it, Ido contend,
that under circumstances such 'as these it would
be vain t'o look to any beneficial results from its
passing into a law ; and that its only effect will
be, it it does so pass, to open a door to colli-
sion and conflict.---We are now to • examine
clauses .sehich appear AO me introductory of a
system At, war with principles hitherto considered
as, fundamental in the COnstitiition It is 41,
towed, indeed, now, that the claims which, have.
been put forwind are not founded upon abstract.
right, and that ParNsment has a right to such regu-
lations as the civil and religious situation of th peci-
pie may, render expedient. Let us then inquire .how
tar the clauses of the present Bill are entitled to
that character. It .is a position assented to by-.
the wisest of mankind, that the civil authority of
the State should be vested 'in such persons who
go to compose Its popoation us may conform to-
the established in it ; but that, on the
.•
other hand, conformity to the religion of
-the state should not be required in Lt.greater de-:
greelhan.is necessary to eflOrd its secerity. The
measure'. of danger being thus made the tnewure '

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rf ti SDAY, MAY. 25, 1813. "

of exclusion, doubtless we should exclude all
those from the power of the State who' dissent
from. its religion, but at the same time bestow the
most tunple toleration. For the space of 12Q years
we have regulated our conduct towards the Pro-
testant Dissenters upon this principle, not admit-
ting them fully to the pcsver of the State, because
some danger, whether real or supposed, was ap-
PreitelltiCti ffatlf so doing ; yet, however, admit-
ting them 'in that degree, which Was considered
not to militate against our ,safety—und on the
same principle have We guarded, in the same
manner, against the alleged clanger which would
urke from the adefi4sion•of Doman Catholies.
With respect to the Protestant Dissenters, they
are admitted, by certain legal provisions, to Par-•
liement, and to most at those privileges for which
the Catholics now sue. I concurred with the late
Mr. Windburn, wheel he, on a former occasion,
stood forward as their advocate, and still think
the indulgences they enjoy have been merited by
their, tried loyalty and peaceable demeanour. is
the ;case similar with respect to the Catholics ?
It'll alleged, whether truly or falsely, that their.
principles have undergone no change ; for niy,
own part. 1-must profess that 1 ton one of tlu
who think that the allegation is well.fmteded--
and adopting the language of Ow late Mr. 13urke,
I. will say, that their exclusion frath power, in
Church and State., is 'nothiag less. thao a just and
necessary prOvision. To command in the 'army
end navy I think they may be admitted, separat-
ing, as I- do, the esseetial Never of the State, from
that'which is merely instrumental to its Mainten-
ance and preservation. Vrom the essential power.
and jurisdiction of the State they must be egchide-
ed, if we mean the Constitution to be...safe 3 but
there is no man here Would go farther_ than
who hes uttered this sentiment, in throwing open
to them all such rewards nod honours as they may.
enjoy, without injure to Church or State, as well
as securing the, blessings of the' most liberal .
toleration. But to What do the.provisidus of the
present Bill go ? 'ln {he first place, they effect their
seats in both Houses of Parliament, and open to
them nearly all the offices of State. Now, as to
their admission to Parliament, it seems to be ad-
mitted, both by those who support, end those who
'oppose their claims, that every other' ulteriorobe
ject they may have in view will follow.the uttaia-
ment of this as matters of course. Their talents
have been insisted 'upon ; those talents they will
not fail to exert as leaders in Parliament, and when
we should see them exerting themselves in that
capacity, and in the capacity of Mioisters—When
we should see in them so dangerous a . emnbina-
tion of means and motives, should we not have 'to
apprehend that their views must be gratified, and
that they would have'reconrse to violence to gra-
tify them ? It clear propoSition,, that when
they sit here, they must become the confidential
servants of the Crown, and if With the power thus
vested in them, they shoidd incline to the popular
party in the State, it is impossible to shut one's
eyes to' the fact, diet a mass of strength such as
they would bring to it would not in • a high de-
gree endanger the Constitution. All then they
wish to have must inevitably. be granted them if
their present "claims be acquiesced in. •And here
be it permitted me to say, that I should nut con-
ceive it the least evil that .would' in all probability
result from their aihnission to this place,
.that we
• should no longer see
_within its `walls many of
those present,- who will now vote fur their admiee
sion. So Much it appears to me may be said, fair-
ly said, with respect to, their having the, doors of
Parliament thrown open to them. Ju' the Privy .
Council their influence and the evils to,he appre-
oneled from it, would be analogous and equally
alarming. We now come ,to the consideration
-of their proposed admission to judiciatoffices. Let
it be admitted that such offices'. of this nathre as
they might be appointed.to, would be us ably ad-
ministered, still they would not give the seine
satiefactiontoPmtestant suitors As would beafTorn-
ed by a Peotestent judge, and if justiee•is net ad-
ministeredsO as to give satisfactionethere is no
justice at: ell. 'Upon these grounds I shall resist
their admissiiin to judicial offices,' As to military.
mph/mots,. thuse I have already said,l would
wish'. to be lahl opeu to thens in the fullest extent.
Let their career be as ample as it,ean be made,
.rind the; honours of the profession ehoWered on
theat in 'ell, abundance, those offices only being
placed beyond their resseh,which involve in thee) any
portion of What rimy be termed the essential power
of the State. With respect to the other offices
which= might devolve on 'them brthe favour of the
Crown or in consequeoceof corporate rights, 1.
am disposed to think with-the Noble Viscount_ ho,
recently expressed his' opinion on this subject,
that the Catholics -should beleft in the same eir-
,efmn.icisetsfrebeys 'Naisrtoateheorf nam
bill nofr n)st
swho enjoy
indemnity. ' The •
same ruled should think might 'eonveniently
udopted with respect to independent members of -
universities, 'that is to say, Catholics should be
formistware excluded, and
excluded in ail case in which other 'non-coin
admitted'in all cases in
which -they are admitted. Having now noticed
my chief objections to the Bill, I have ffirthee to:-
observe, thet'l have to complain of the emission
of much-thar ehatild have formed part of its con-
-tents. I think that it should contained pros
visions impoeieg some restraint on the religious
establishments which are to be fauna in the corn)...
try, and guieding fie:dust their increttee.
have eatablislonents of Be n. of Frerei*e
cans, of Domiuicans, of altruist every monestie
order, and there ere now lodged at Stelnybarst tere
tein tuads for the use of the order of Je'suiti,: winch
appear to me to conetitute an ohjeet of jealousy
sufficient' 1.6 arouse the vigilance of ‘tt 'Skate the
leftist lOC:irlett to Suspicion. FromAlitynooth stet-
dents are constantly seat tee Slcily for ordination,
andeon,their setup, they are entrusted with the .

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education of fouth. Now, :that all this shonki
' exist, and that all consideration of it should-I'4li
excluded from-the Bill, canuot but be regarded'ae
fortning a strong ground of objection to its Again,
it has left untouched the- practice of spiritual ex-
conummication ; instances of the evils springing
feom.wl,..els, it will be recollected, centred in 1791,
evils which were deeply laniented by the English
Catholics : surely this was a fit subject for the at-.
tentioit of the Gentlethen whosundertook to frame
the BilL * Hut I heve ever to cemelain that there
ere concessions omitted which leave the Bill very.
imperfect. Why was there not a provisien to estas
Wish the right of the Catholic soldier to attend to
the service (WWI own•church, a subject we bases
• heard so much of in the House ? nhywasOere not
a clause, abolishing the law which makes it compel
story on Catholics .to solemnize their marrieges
Protestant Churches..? Why not another to pro-
tect their- pieces of worship froth .insult? The,
fact is, diet toleration was not the object of the
framers 6f thel3;ll •• what they wanted to give the
Catholics was pol'itiesti ascendency. (Loud (nut
continued dries of Llear, _hoar ! from the Treaszo
Benches.) In their views I cannot ereuiesee. 1.
must repeat, that I think, and•my opinion is sup-
ported by the ainhority of Mr, Burke, that the
adoption of them woeld go to .e.ffeet a chtenge in
the politidal system of the Stets:, such as veonld,
shake the whole fabric of the Constitution. It
we grant .'the 'claims., we abandon a printiples
whicb, once ahandoned, there is no point round
which we may rally whets wehave discovered out,
error.. We must resist the mischief in the. breach,
or it will 'be irresistible: %Alien the tide, by its
first influx, has sapped a portion ,of the moulds •
,the.partial dihipidation may he yet-susceptible of
rseair ; but if
.that be negleetedtill at fell flood,
the waters rush through the chasm, we eledeth,
in vain, 'deplore the infatuation that, reversed
from saving ourselves from their violence, while
• it was yet possible to do so. 1 now conic to thee
part el the Bill which affects to provide uremia,. -
ties for-the Chnrch and the State ; these consist •
partly, of. an oath and partly of restriction itt the
appointment of the Roman Catholic Clergy, and
on their intercourse with the see of Rome. Now,
the operation of 'this oath on the minds of, such
persons of the. Catholic Religion us are well ettu
cavil, and possess enlightened -minds, I aut by
no means disposed to undervalue, I am sure. such
!meting will teel it completely obligatory. But I
am far from thinking that it will beam felt by the
-of the Catholics, Who, it is Well known, are
imm.St state of great mewed darkness and: absolute
subjection to the Priesthood; Taut on-this part of
the subject I shall not dilate,: inasmuch as I ex-
pect that it will be treatedinaleteil by an Hon.
Baronet who is capable of giving the House much
more satisfactory information with respect to •it
than I tould pretend tosio. But it is pretty plain,
that the framers at theßill theniselves did eiot re-
spud this oath :IS sufficient,-inasmuch .as they have
thought it necessary to superadd other securities. I
do not Seidl to go back to times loeg past to show its
insinlieiency, nor is•it necessary ; the Sovereign
Poeta in our own times has issued instructions to
• his ehurch, in which having made a distinction bes
tween active and passire•oeths, he has asserted
, that those of the letter kind only may be taken
for the satisfaction of an heretical Govermnent.
In the document in which this. doctrine is laid
dewn, 'it is moreover 'said, that •all oaths taken
contreryto.the interest of, the Church are null end
void ; and thiedocumene has been within, these
48 hours, promulgated and eirculeted in Loudon
by the principal Roman Catholic Prelate in thili
country and the agent for the Irish
With respect to. the restrictions in the Ecclesiastic
eel appointments and the intercourse of the priest-
hood with time See of Rome, I shall first observe, •
whatever may be the merit of those provided for
by the Bill, it is plain that some such restriction 4
time Legislature has a right, and is in duty bound
to adopt. In the first torn which the Bill as-
sumed, I. was not disposed to think that time mode
of nomination was such as would give satis-•
faction to either party. As it has been since
altered, it appears. to .me much less objece
tionuble, so far. as the Cteiwn is concerned ; but
I apprehend that' it has undergone no iMprove-
.. meet in the eyes of the Catholics. I wools%
suggest, that in eddition to the present provision
of the Bill on this head, the regular Clergy should
be rendered unsuseeptible'of being nominated by
time regelar Clergy. The House will understand
that I mean the monastic orders. These people,
in addition to the allegiance they owe the Tempo-
ral Sovereign, not only give a spiritual alleglaneu.
to time Roman Pontiff, but also oWn the males-
rity of a General of each •order ; now the Gene-
ral of time OrderofJesuits is at present in Rus3ia.
but 'who will undertake to say, that lie may not
be lit a short time an4inbabitant of Frence'? The
General. of the Dominicuns is in Spain, but he.
niay also change his residence. Dr. 'nevi 'Pitt,-
lac Archbishop of Dublin, is a member of this leo
nuestimied Order. Surely tt ienot-
persons owing. th,i4,,trOle stud too
Meting allegiance, should be espahl:!,,i
mutate 1. I.mast exprees ,aY ImtJ;mt, do
ntit 6" a" vicar
171
Sttirero to exercise,his deleg.nct 't
is
also
kingdom. "The person Holy r.xe:,.c.,
(tilletei.sii(l,t":lll.leicitaigt.eii'sr'l'it)ofttirce:sue'enuobt ttelut(t;lLSlll)ll7oisn:lte.
you'd hoitate to obey, and that at least iptlf
a million -of Catholic sehjecte in Great Britain,
s great proportion would undoubtedly' obey
his. It is due to the Government, to the qountrv,
'and to time Catholics. themselves, that this tvramiy
should be abolished. As I thought in the, first
stage of tlmis.Bill, the le of
egt
ne7l.litratt.ii(ot,°bwn ieci:
of the
respect to the intercourse between the Catholic
Clergy and the See Of sßom ()e • these have ale
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been improved, but I apprehend, they hive bem
exi.,,iseu to Similar otnettions on the pa t the
-Catholics. I must own, however, that I ant averse
to any concealment in a spiritual state in its rela-
tion with a temporal government, though the
,clandestine proceedings in the present case, would
be through an authoriSed channel, still that cir-
cumstance does mit alttigether remove my objet-•
tions. 1 wish generally, that ,the grounds which
have been adopted may not be ..over rated, but
that we should consider and reconsider Whether:
we hare in them equivaleot for which %N'e may
barter the strength of oor ,Protestant
ment. The Roman C.`ttliolie, Prelates profcss
plicit obedience to the See of. }tome, and they are.
' directed to exercise their spiritual jurisdiction
without the intervention' of any decument w!)at-
soever. This is a 'Spirit to which: Eriglishinen
shoidd not incautiously or without great conside-
ratiou give Way , this is the spirit which otu
rendon and Somers as Statesmen, our Lotlte as 'a
,Philosopher; and William the Third as a Sovercign
Prince, pronounced incompatihk, Withthe:Con-
stitnaon. This spiritual jurisdiction cannot be
iunoxiously co-extstent with a Protestant
Gosern-
laaent, To conclude—l must repeat that the point
at.which we must Make our stand, is the proposed
adriiission of Catholics into' the two, of
thiment ; if this be granted', all ulterior objects
must be easily obtained. I shall therefore move
that the words of the first clause, which admits
Catholics to the. two Houses of Parliament,' be
left out."
Mr. WHITBREAD regretted much the part the
Right Hon. Gentleman opposite had taken in the:
discussion, particularly because having rarely an
opportunity of expressing' his sentiments in that
House; they must derive considerable 'weight from'
that circumstance. He had now Made a speech,
in which he professed to advance some objections.
to the clauses of the Bill; but which, in fact, went'
to its utter extinction. He would, indeed, adMit
the Catholics to military OraitS, but he would ex-
elude them froth all :judicial situations. 'He
would put • down the Monastic" orders, he
thought the apostolical vicar dangerous, and that
he ought•to be expelled the land; yet lie would
suffer theßill: to be thrown out Which tarnished
the only opportunity which would probably be al-
hirdedfor years of getting rid of these nuisances;
Which were so much the objects of his dislike.—
The Right,Hon.Gentlemart bad availed himself of
some dissatisfartion with the Bill, which had been
expressed by the Catholic Board in Dublin, to
strengthen his reasonings against it, but what did it
in reality • go -to prove ? why that there would-be
alwaysqiome dissatisfied on such occasions. Was
it;pOssible that he could hope that persons would
be contented whose, business it was never to -be
contented There never would be wanted discon-
tented auxiliaries of the .Catholic Board. There
were many persons,of this description, who felt'
that the passing of the Bill DOW under considera-
tion would be a death-blow to their consequence,
to whom that individual consequence was every
thing, ;the interest of the Catholic Body nothing.
But if ;the proceedings of the Board
were calculated to give offence, he could now
reuti to the-House resolutions adopted at a Catho-
lic meeting, which would exhibit Catholic feeling
in a :very different point of view. Thete resolu,
Otitis which had arrived -in town this day,. Were
propo4ed at "a numerous meeting of Catholics in
Cork, which a Gentleman of great wealth and
respectability had presided.—[Here the Hon ;Meni.'..
ber read' tire reported proceedings' of the'Meeting
in question.]-4he:Hort. Member then continued;.
be- would .ask 'the /tight Hon. G.:llolmin Whether
these resolutions had not relieved Iris mind 'front
the apprehensions under which he had.appeared
to labour ? Might he not, moreover, indulge a pa.'.
tional hope from the tenor of one of-them, that he
wduld 'not he. deprived of 'theaSsistance of fi Right
Hon. Meinber in the work of legislation, the loss
of whom he had conteinplated with so roach unea,
sinews ? The night Hon. Gentleman was not averse
to the'admission of Catholics into the Army and'
Navy, hut he did'hor approve of- their admission
to the Bench or to Parliament, entertaining alto-
gether a differentopinion front an Hon. Burt. :who
recently stated, that from 'their admission to the
Navy he entertained the greatest apprehensions.
He would desire him, as he himself had treated
the apprebetiOons of others as visionary, he should
now treathi!rin the'saine light. He conceived tber
were altogether groundless; but there was (inept' his
principles of objection at Which he could trot tes-
tify suffielent surprise. He had delivered it as his
opinion, that a Catholic Judge could not give satis-
ftction in:decidingbetweco individual and indivi- _

, - ----
dual. He would he ineaptthie of administering
justice to the riatisfactioniof Protestant •suitori.--
If the Right HminttrabloMember had, not. meant

to say so; he would have an 'opportunity of ex-
plaining what he did mean. He had assigned two
rearions %idly Catholics should be iimdmifisible to

judicial offices: the One Writi, that camei in which

the Church was intereste►l would come uuder

•
their cognizance; the other, that they 'would be
un#ble to administer justice try the satisfaction of
Proteitent suitors. Now the Catholics lied fterv!

„ ” 7
tofore grounoli 'for complaint, the'saine as were
here ant b.;ipate,d for the Prototents'. 'This Indeed
was dissipated by the li-beta).
lately fottoil their way into/ uren's mirich. The
Protet;tant wieendarkey in Ireland, and the state of
the public ntind in England towardS the Catholics
constituted 8 great grievance to that body. It,
ixith all eye, to the state of things, e, CathOlic
should apprehend his cause preindgett, if
lie were to apirear before tile tribunal .of it PO-
tvstant ,Judqc, would not the latter. indignantly

disclaim the imputation thus cast' upon him
ilortotir':ible Alembil, be was boiTy to ob-

serve, bad adopted in his s;pecch the languai;e of
the-hustings thttnee the cry %vac, that if the Ca-
tholics were admitted to power, the King would
appoint none but Catholics to oflice. When they

tvere permitted to have seats in Parliament, tbere
'(Act! I.le
wottid nom:. tva;Githoiie Mgm_h clb LA, • .
that he would soon be'ennvineed how little,
grottittl he hail for apprehensions of' this maitre ;
indeed, these I,3:Ptts one eirtlaniAani't: now before
his eyes, which might seen, ti, corre.,:t delusion.
in the etitift.4o of his ditty; ba htof of hot, been I
tigned by the bringing up .of .rinmeroir: etiti
afrainit the Catholic signed hy Propotitinono s,
till La length they Caine 01 iamb shy, ,t.; th.,t they
were laid upon the table without being read, their

purport bray behig ascertai nett tritt? these were,
as he observed before, signed by Protestants-,--.by
Protestant voters. It would appear then, acc,orii-
ing to the hypothesis of the Right Hon. Ilear le:
man, that these persons' Wilt) were so averse to tI; e
Catholics being admitted :to Parliament, as soon
as they were :tdmit ted, would immediately' come
round to wdifferent way of thinking, and while io
the 'very act-of deploring the removal, of - those
.guards to' the Coustitution which they were .so
anxious to° -preserve. in 'their' 101 l vigour, would
think the exercise of that whirl' was in their' owo
power_ improper, and at all elections votelor
Ca-
tholic candidates. ,Dissenters might come,
and did come into the House of Parliament ; they
laboured under grievances also, and slid they en,
dei,vour to repeal the acts of security, and over-
throw the Established Chorch ? At no titne; when
the great authorities existed whom the Right Ho-
nonrable Gentleman had :looted, though the cha-
racters of the Catholili' and the Protestant differed
as materially aslight,did from darkness ; Protes-
taut then supported Protestant, and Catholic then
supported Catholic, the former determined to have
and maintain a Protestant suceessionto the throne,
and the hitter resolved to sustain the rights of a
Catholic King, or a Catholic Pretender7-so tong
as that state of things existed, the sentiments of
such wise and enlightened men deserved consider-
ation and weight ;° hat matters were now happily
altered, the Catholics mutually supported the Pro-
testant Throne. •at home and abroad, in alliance
with their reformed brethren; and had Lord Cla-
rendon, Lord !Somers, King and
.Mr.
Locke lived now, they would have daciared very
dilrerept ()pillions. The Right Honourable Gen-
tleman had proposed to annul the first clause bat
In removing that, he took away the best part of
the Bill, and left nothing but the wreck and rem-
mint out of which the ,Right Hon. Gent. had pro..
_posed to frame some meastire conciliatory to the;
Catholics. How painful must it have been to the
Right Honourable Gentleman, when propositions
in former Sessions were made, for allowing to the
Catholic soldier the free exercise of his religion,
nil of which had been unsuccessful—he must haVe
felt his heart wrung at rie denial of parliameat,and
,must have longed to leap out of his chair to sup-
port such a measure. But the Right, Honoorable
°Gentleman had not expressed' a wish to propose
a Bill according to the notions which he entertain 7
ed; lie had reserved some opiiiit:os for his own
use; ° and though there Were sitting on, his right
and on his left the (rug amid Magog of Protestant-
ism, be had never heretofore ivhispered to them
any propositions, or counselled them to guard
gainst the imminent danger of -mopastical institn-
tiOns. The'Rt. Hon. Gent. though !,c had argued
against the principle of the measure from oneend.of
the 13111 to another, had nevertheless confessed that
be was pleased with, sonic of the propositions, and
had pointed out several defects, yet had left the
Committee hopeless by proposing nothing. Ile
hoped the !tight lion. Gentleman would assist
them in conducting the Bill through the Commit-
tee, even with the first clause as it 'now stood, for
without that the remainder. was wholly unimport-
ant. The first proposition was calculated to bring
the Catholics and Protestants into collision in the
Parlitonent, to bring them into mutual conference,
to inspire confidence and to quell alarm, and for
these reasons had his hearty support; It appear-
ed, however, that the enemies to the Catholics
reserved their batteries to the very last, atid° per-
severed in their errors and misrepresentations with
unequalled zeal. It was his disposition to think
favourably of the Catholics ; he thought the pen.
pie Of Englod wtre ripe for the measure, and he
hoped the people of Ireland wduld be conciliated
by it.

Sir JOHN NrcHoL said, that the Bill now heforo
the Ilotise,was presented...midi:l72m circumstances ;

circumstances 'different front those under which lit
Watt first introduced. , The supporters of the Bill
had met, and reconciled their differences, .and the
3fill, was now brought forward as modified by
them ; from them, therefore; there could be but
little hope of alteration. Those tivl►,ci voted for the
principle, no alteration in the detail could of
course remove from their opinion. There were,
however, others who had not made up theirminds
upon the Bill until the character of the clauses was
fully before them. 'The , Right lion. Gentleman
(the Speaker) had very properly confined' himself
to a gencial view of the subject ; tie, however,
must press upon the Committee what effect this

measure: was.likely to hare if carried into eireet.
lt should he I:membered' that the Constitution
.was fundamentally and exclusively. , Protextmit ;
not only were the Church and 'Crown Protest,
ant, but the Counsellors of the-. Crown alsO, and
both HouseS alParlicunent. The judicial and mi-
litary system were likewise Protestant : the Con-
stitution veceived this Protestant charieter, not
for the piwpose of nieetiqg anyTarticular circum-
stances, but granually and slowly,.reniedies be-
ing applied to evils according as they presented
themselves. Eyen in the -times when the State
mts Catholic, their ancestors ;lid resist the usurpa-
tion' attempted by the See of Route. - At the time
or the Refotinatioo, the Protestant Church was.

folly 4.;stsibliBlied. By the Corporation. Aet, Ca-
tholics were excluded unless they .then took oaths
of allegiance and supremacy., After the Corporo.
tiOn Act the 'Test Act Was passed.' The latter
was riot intended to ihear e:;clusively upon the
Dissenters, for it was supportedt by them ; the
main object of it was to prevent the clangers fi p -
prehended frdnn the Roman Catholics; After titi4
'the Bill of Rights was patised.with the same view,
namely, to preserve the Protestant char,icter of
the Constitution,. At' the or the Union of
Scotland with hlugland, and of England with-Mi-
1-and, the same object. was kept_ in view. By the:i'e'
laws time nation had now cidjoyed tranquility that
was trot disttn bed, eNeept in one or two instancvS.
- - - -

,w.
lie would ask what sort Of constitution they were
to have, if this Bill wera to ptss into, ti law

It vus true, the ChUrah BthiThrow: %Ore by

the Bill to continue Protestant ; but were not die

securities that were placed round the throne with
this view—were 'not these seettrities removed,

by the present Bill? By the present liikl, if ear-
vied into effect, the great Officers of the State
were no longer to be Protestant. This was intro-
ducing a ftnirfnl change indec d. tt was introduc-
ing a change in the St.,,te which, fifty years tap,
no wan would have been 1)01(1 enough to propose;

which, if propoied with success, would

fectitally wipe out all the taws fur the protection
of the Constitution to which he had before allnd-
edr, It was proposed now to relative the bulwarks
of the Constitution not gradually step lip= step,
)at suddenly,.-arid almost -ivithout considerittion.
It was not to IA believed that Elie forey,n :oitho-
rity'of the Pope Would confilw it A2ll merely to spi-
rituals. Ile Was. justiiied, learnig ront what
appeared that Nay publications front Irfeland, that
such a Bill would be l'ather an excitement to strife,
than a ground for emicord ; be did not believe
that any such event as harmony wont d,arise from
it, nor would it bring theta to that time when the
liqu and the lamb could repose in peace together.
We're they quite sure thci sonic agitators would
notarise and:say in Ireland, ltat they had a right
to pay their tithes for the support, of their own
Clergy? Were they sure that they who held the
Protestants as intruders would not .do all in their
power to drive them from the benefices they pos-
sessctl Were they quite sure that the Catholics
would ilk tome forward with claims foi• those es.-
tates which they conceived to be unjustly forfeited?
Was it quite cleat' that they would not act toge-
ther- both in their military and' civil capacities for
the attainment of such objects, and endeavour be-
sides to set aside theprotestantsuccession? It was
argued thatsach'eventS were quite chimerical. If
they were sa., where Was the occasion of reciting
theM in the preamble to the pregent Bill? xvbere was
the occasion of proposing any seetirPies against
theta ? His' present Majesty hml'only one grand-
child who was likely to-sticceed to the throne.----
He was not aware ‘vit ether the Queen' of Wirtem7
burgh had any children, but at al! events, no nedl
could say whether, alter the lapse of 20 or even
often years, the Crow n of England weld(' settle on
aforeigner or one ithtiye, And what emisequences,
he Would ask, Might follow from such an event ?
In 1770,, did any one foresee the downfall of the.
Preuch iiloatarchy ? Hainan foresight was but
sLort, and should be employed against the occur-,
renee of dangerous possibilities. While thingS
re-
mained as they were at present he 'had no great
apprehension of fnrcirn power. He believed the
Catholici were loyal, "bat did it follow front that"
that they should not prefer a Protestant Church or
'Crown to a Catholic one ? It was contended that
the power of the Catholics would liOt be increased
by dais Bill.' This argument, if true,: would at
least, in his mind, go' tea far, for it would go to
the extent of reseinding tie boon which bad al-
ready been bestoWed on them: ,Suppose a Catho7
lie were to become a popular Minister, would he
not attempt, silently:nu! Ill►perceived, to introduce-
Catholics into all theleading places of the State;
and when they found. thentselvei in the possession
of such power, was it elear. that :no attempts
would he made to establish the ascendancy of the
Catholic religion.? Such 'atteJapts were mide,
to what calamity must it not give rise It was
from such calumitv that ,he would defend • his
children, and his children's children, byre Sistine
this Bill. •

Air. PONSONDY rose. Be'.ore he observed upon,
the speech of the Hon. I:llrotict %clip bad Jim.
sat down, he would- say a •few words On. what_
had been advanced by the:Right I.:lon...Gent. (the
Speaker) who opened the-debate. lie hadstatedttvn .
ohji2ctiotis to the. Bill,. One that it excloded
matter which it Ollght. Rtit to exclude. told the othcr
that it admitted matter which it ought, not to admit:
Upon tits first It world s.:y, that it way. open to
that Right Hon:Gentleman to propose itohe,
Committee the means of sepplying all the defects
of the Bill ; if under the conviction that such de-
fects exist d, 'he did not propose the remedy' the
Right'HOn.' Gentleny.lll was, in. his Mind, open, to
a, very fiei'lolJi grave accusation. It did not:
aypear that he had considered well the nature of
the resoltaions that had been passed in 'the House
upon a 'former occasion. These restitutions Went
not 'to the protectiOn of the religiOns houses of
the Roman Catholics, or to int ituptiry into the state
of their reguhir clergy, but ro the removal of their
civil and religious disqualiileations.' 'After such
•resolittion:, he did not see bow the Hoose could
mill-lit:of such minor considerations as bad been
recommended. Their time tvonld be. ill employed
iti such a discussion. ohiect of the Mil was'
to give relief where grievince 15"11., COnlillaill
to restore. privileges ‘Nilit!ii fOriliVE•
WS
taken away;. and in matter of civil trials to proctne
equality,. was said, that a stand should be
male on the first clause, which admitted theCa-
thojics-to both Houses of Parlianient ; that such
a stand was necesSury to preserve the tonstittt
ii6o, •In his mind, the ,way to. preserve the Con,
stitution was to enable the Catholics to vote in
that Muse. 'But low wits .the danger tO'arisel
An lion. Baronet (Sir J.,Nicol), said, that if
puce admitted to the. House of Commons, they.
would quietly- and gently he brmigia. into aill
the• great offices, and then when a favouralde
Opportunity occurred, begin to exert their tolin
ence for the overthrow Of the Constitution. Into
these places they wets to creep, quite nnperceived
by •any one. * No one was,' to perceive when
a Catholicbecame Chief Justice or. Conimander tit
Chief. All this was .to pass unobserved till every
thing was ripe for carrying into effect the design of.
upsetting the COnstitution. Did lir:seriously think
that-any person who heard sich language laid any
stress: npon it ? it possible that •0 plot could
succeed in that Honse, of turning out all the Pro-
testantsin it. ? Cimld 50 or 00 Catholics, who were'
likely-to be brought into the Honse in the first'
:Session after passing the law, think of 'effecting
such an object.? Coald Such a plot be thought
of, or concurred in, without detection ? Or if
C;ltholics' were tt) nitllt.lfeat such an intention, how
Would it be 'received ? It was- impossible they
could ever have sufficient power to attempt such,'
an object, even if they had the inclinatiod. The
Honourable Baronet did' not know what might
~happett in-twenty years, No - person 'knew what
Might happen in t'kerity years. No-person knew
who might he Dean of thesA rch es in t Wen ty years ;
but it, was:clear that no person itt twenty years
would consent to tl.e overthrO W of the Protestant
establishment. He was Convinced that nri'dabger
would arise front their ti.tdinission to' the lion e.
On the contrary, 'security. would be the cons,:-
`quence. of it. He should like to seethe
have an opportunity of.actin: openly, It was by
admitting them into that Ifottse that they cool.,
act openly, and then their eondnetWould be known.
A.V:is it to be ithagined that all the members of
that,Uouse would britauge their religion, and pre-'

• •
fer a Catholic choral and crown to a trotestSef
one ? . The lion. Baronet should not forget that
they wild would give in the present ease, had ibe
power alscit to take away I Did be,intagieetb3r
Parliament would allow power to remain in the
hands .of people So dispdsed ? This apptel°'
soon was a most idle aud imaginary one. h'
real value of the Bill to Catholics was coniptised '
in the first clause. The real value of the ir,easine:
to Protestants. themselves was comprised in tipt
first clause. If this clause were once detente); 11
did not care how soon the rest was disposed " ''.
'The laws alluded to in the course of the (10)2°
were not made merely for the exclusion of -Cath3:,;
lics, The Test • Act was brought more for do'
purpose of tornitig Lord Clifford out of office, dolt ,
tor any thing elSe. The coosideration of Paqi
mixed in those laws as much as security to t''''.:;
State.' But even though their necessity at 05,0.:
tt.iixtsuil's:s.s%%_.. ertirleile:s,liellii'itiiigiteitle: i' ti 4t
rgl
Im
t'?l' it
:I it:l`rnt;‘'PStil
necessity vt el (.. p it:o t. .4,1_,
Speaker) had allutledllt°orla"iiii:eactleiteit Geveelilittleinas3'Bllll;;.'
That event, so far from being au argument spins*
the Catholics,' was proof that no outlined derlY ..
was now in'a humour to comply with the Pl 5
dates of the Pope. Did the Citiegy of Split'!" yic:,.
v), him ? The desite ou the part of the gancl° :criat'',
that_. the matter .should be Rent secret, litulY'`‘,o:. o
Clergy were the first to communicate it totllc.`"fc.j,
sii:a'ie:alYistiiiiit:ltleili °lYYoel.f°n: titt?b•ltilbutetilisltrleileteelisirNiiVgaSSaPY:lo'e:tr_Sgt-IlirilaeCY:iletoil.:..111;:1:111(sItils:Ili:f eitir911.);eftl(:1:1j9.11::i'llei:11:..i1:1:::::.1•.tirtvtl °lll' :jfli
tigtli(i,cie:tili);:rn:nGtiselelitlPlii;tlY:ticeibeedentoitlf:d*'atileii:e.ifli'iticeri.eot;(;,.:fdial 1:1-:(11.1Y1:,e11::Pyr)tistelr":::::bib°11itittddicilititli:cei:
when they found . the people, informed. }Phoe. : I
not look upon the Test Law as any secnritil,tonel • '
WaS:nu mention .of it in the Bill. But wit" 1.-:,',,,i1 ,L
to that Act he would say', that he would suppo.tina
application. for the repeal of it by ever)! 'eeidt. vot
is Ilk power. It was sand, that the Bill w°ll' ow,
give general satisfaction; t het lie did not 101
the
but ',new that it couferretl suchbei.V.fit!°ll,,,,R ,
Catholics as they ought' gi atefolly to rece':,,e'ilble ' :
was sufficient if it gave satisfaction to rr" '-',ttril
met); and it was suffiCient for hini if he ir'Pit)iitit''
what, he looked • upon to, be the ti'lailil'" vit'atlf i',
and liberality over falsehood and biotry. .„.0. II
pei:s,percei yeti defeettLs iu the Bill he slictuu,ri: 3!
ppie the remedy. 14.. e. who objected to tis 'ther :4
would destroy the Whole measure. 'file .lair rl
parts of the Bill, w.jt bout this, would prod liVllO. I
discontent than s:,tisfaction. To open to vie' ,i,e '
man Catholics the armit r lit oulY, /11'
yan navy %sou
them more stAieitims. for'.‘‘th at rtes. Witikbeind. b,„6 ,dfi-
Sir .I. C. HiriltirLEY'snia, the Bill 'l,ll,if aof • '-',.
his noist cOrtlial support. lie wocigi::l7' tis it Lj
man to say lie was inconsistent. The J-"i''',, his •', t
was now before the Committee would:clio'fitist•
support. ,He would contend that he w"- - „oil
enc.,' In the future ,stuges of the Bill, Irt,;'hio.
not fail to make,suclirelsarks as ototar',l. fart of
Ile hail been, charged with, suppressing tu'otory.
:tiaifCnlji, c:%tvgia.i.ts_scneuosttltnalbt:lllties.jel jansfige .itsheffelluaes ers 11:1:1:: Isr 't
it
cinil,ttirll.l'l,ln:cileitil'slecti::tttacelt44l
~f.
Oita fact a year back to the 'Rig" "arc",olivere .'•
not Protestant fears, but Catholic feill"' f the Ca- -'''
that fact in eislifortn:.ty with the wishes of the
th°llCs:, themselVes. , The 11/embe . e for vo.° .
ti_hioea gisti).:P.oors:eulil.,ll.,ei 3
yea:tlttil °u'ap'4l Li, PitilP: e° ritn thefori nCari°ll:l`tvtle' Ile e,ll tsi tb
icrv'et.t: . ''
He condemned the
ail the stages of the Bill, and observed I,tt'tvealit•-.
!louse woublperhaps'aoree with hielOoPi t:
'he too late. . L °.
' ' 1/61 lir
' .
The.CIIA4CELLOR of the Exciutatli'.ll C,11,„v• lON
on the House to .consider at wbat. time `e'tiliel% '
culled' upon to pass this Bill. .1t was at•'' titer Jr ~01‘
the spirit of Papacy, was as aspiring as ev,..: ~ a fate
i Ip.rreactilpei4ltitsttiCslneart'ai-in,i:t'clrilie
said that till!Clergy of Spirits did Hot stippqr,irit'i., wis
iostancethe pretensions of tiie I'.oPg'i.,:„tiiiiiritY ~.
it:
tt:tsittihtte)ocieibil
e1e.r:11‘11%.%.etv).14111,7;18i'0. rieseiluv.heairtr. .c
tc
olio!
tilettitiy:e,n,iticpsoolt;ne; i 71•11- srtibn;
1 - utrou.:' er
tillulie'ancestors lied passerd So .'hull) In":81'eti°1.11:1.(11
state. • It was limn this : orinciole tit." '''- cur
se the pretensions of the Sec f 11°"''' l'"
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low a tone,. that he Could not be heard in `
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bensiotis of those who.opposed the Bill. coo ~'
peared to }rim absurd to- suppote that if,;,,,Deot' ..
. ithciste:ytt:lb'e'.tiesi:ittiliz(.ll::oe' tlllett.r) 'tile!
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JI-iiak of "1-temPting it, and it tliey.did attern' iii'
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it was impossible they could succeed. . liti ;if)
1,,..tT:1t object, o;.* the Bill was to admit Ca"`'rtife'''
:;:t iti•Parliament. Of this lie entirely .slit ebr
?lilac secant was to regulate the rionsiitattol.„'Lcie 1
tholic BishoPs. 011 tihis he would at pi; 'all' '
SOI.
little, as it won't! hereafter come ender &ONO!'
, Tae third great., object was' to prevent any, c Oils
l'ottintate exercising undue authority in '' i the ~ •,.
!kill doiniaiOlis, litese wee-' the objects 'cs) ohe
Bill, 'unit .to the accomplishment. of !I', Via'
th°h.ght it adegieite. .lii ho sped the Britt's! for
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~,int would take every necessary pre`( chili',°
goarding against • foreign influence. 11--",eir. (,gar,`
of the Right Hon.Gentlemair opposite ('' 00011`
ning). forlhisPtirpose, met with Iris warto II 014
b:iti.9n.: He thought they • fully effec"'ilbilat dila,
our ancestors had wishzdJo accompliiisioo,rioi.,,,ec.:o7. .
(lid it in a' piritof lisildneSs. and cone
hoped die niea-aire Would hitee the hailloigdo"P
conciliating aoti istritingall parties in thc ovate
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The public: feeling, it was his opit4o°,,noefeer,l •LLIII
able to the proposed arrangement. ' ". cots 1,,.
believed it: to be the wish of his' consit,'Civutioa; . :'
admit their Catholic brethren to a pitEt.-'OOIJ 11. • '
the blessiogs of the Cons( itiition. ' lle eity yo',l'
look forward to what might occur tliehlei,coo't
'heniletecie.
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an act `1

justice. Cotll°'
i Mr. BANKES thoult the prayer of th 4: