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tore it was violated; the Governme7e; tl.tt'erdYe, Must be con-
sidered to blame for el!,:014 sack things to be. He believed
that the Go,,ertiMerit of this country had by their diplomatic
agent's conceded more dim America would have done, as he
felt convinced if the treaty had been entered into with that
country they would have insisted upon it being performed. In
his opinion, the Government ought to withdraw their diplomatic
agent.—( Cheers.) He believed, that although no country
ever paid more for diplomatic agents than this, that none had
had their commerce so little protected. He hoped that ere
Parliament met again, there would be something decisive
dime upon the subject.
Mr. IZ eStNsoN thought that the Hon. Member for
TAncatter would do well to follow the advice of the
Noble Lord opposite, and not persevere in his motion.
He trusted the Government would perform that duty which
the commercial intersts of the country required of them. If
the Hon. Gentleman should again bring the subject before the
House, he could assure him he would have the support of all
the eciumercial and manufacturing interests.
Sir J. R. REID was intimately connected with the Island
that had been alluded to, and he held in his hands letters
which confirmed the statements that had been made.
Mr. P. MAXWELL expressed his complete satisfaction
at what the Noble Lord had stated to the House, and he
knew the petitioners would be satisfied with the Noble Lord's
fair and open explanation.
CIVIL BILL COURTS (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. LYNCH appeared at the Bar, and informed the
Speaker that the Lords had appointed a Conference with the
Commons, to take place in Committee-room No. 5, on the
subject of the Lords' Amendments to the Civil Bill Cuurts
(Ireland) Bill.
Several Members then left the House for the purpose of
holding the Conference.
Mr. LYNCH, and the other Managers of the Conference,
appeared at the Bar, and reported that they had left the Bill,
and reasons for disagreement with the Lords.

S'T'AMP DUTIES BILL.
A message from the Lords reported that their Lordships
had agreed to the Newspaper Stamp Duty Bill without any
amendment.—( Cheers and laughter.)
On the first Order of the Day being read,
Colonel SIBTHORP ruse to move that Motions and
Orders of the Day be taken on alternate days, in the order
they stood on the paper. He was one of the most regular at-
tendants in the House, and he had a motion on the books since
last session which lie had not been able to brillg on—besides,
it was matter of very great inconvenience that the notices
were taken so irregularly—no one ever knew what was to be
brought on first; last night, after the first and second
order, they had skipped over to the seventeenth, and then
to the twenty-eighth. He was not one who would
stand in the way of the Government business, but there
ought to be sonic time and opportunity allowed for private
Members to bring forward those motions which their consti-
tuents expected from them. He had been frequently been in
the House up to twenty minutes past two o'clock in the morn-
ing, without ever having seen anything in the shape of a sand-
wich.--( A laugh.) It was very hard, in his opinion, to be
kept in such total ignorance of what was to take place, when
the Noble Lord had the opportunity of dropping from the Ist
to the 26th Order of the Day.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that with respect to motions
on Notice Days, they were always taken in regular suc-
cession; therefore, with respect to them, no motion was
required. With respect to Orders of the Day, what the
Honourable Member had proposed had never been adopted
hitherto; there had always been an opportunity given to the
Government to move any Order of the Day they pleased.
It was not possible, in his opinion, to make any absolute
rule on the subject, because there might be an Order of the.
Day on some important adjourned debate, which would of
course have to be taken first. At the same time he
must say, that he thought the Hon. and Gallant Colonel
had done all he could. He was of opinion, however, that,
more notice should be given than there was. He had endea-
voured to arrange the thing as well as he could, as he had
given his notices when the House was full.
_ BENEFICES PLURALITIES' BILL.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that after considering the
state of the question, and that in the end he should have
to take the way of prolonging the session to a late period,
or of running the risk of discussing this very important Bill in a
thin House, he had come to the opinion that it would be better
to postpone the consideration of the Benefices and Pluralities
Bill till next Session.

Mr. H UNIE did not deny that the Bill contained some very
important reforms, but he hoped that before that House as-
sembled again, a branch of Church Reform most essen-
tial, viz. the uniting and separating of benefices so as to pro-
vide an adequate congregation for every living, would be taken
into consideration by the Commissioners. Although he felt
strong objection to the progress of this Bill, he could assure
the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) that no man would more
readily assist him in carrying into effect Reform when applied
in its proper place.

. .
Lord SA Nb 0 N regretted that the opposition of some Hon.
Members on the Ministerial side of the House had succeeded
in preventing the passing of this measure. He hoped that
those Hon. Members who had opposed this Bill would take
an opportunity of reading this Bill, and of endeavouring to
understand what it contained. He wished to know whether
the Noble Lord (Russell) intended to abandon the Bill alto-
gether ?
Lord J. RUSSELL by no means intended to abandon the
Bill.

(LEFT SITTING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

The LORD CIikIiCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack a
Five o'Clock.

Mr. BERNAL and Others from the Commons brought up the
Greek Loan Act Amendment Bill, and the Established
Church Bill.

Mr. LYNCH and Others from the Commons appeared at
the Bar to desire a Conference with their Lordships on the
Civil Bill Courts (Ireland) Bill.
EDINBURGH, LEITH, AND NEWHAVEN
RAILWAY.

The Edinburgh, Leith, and Newhaven Railway Bill was
read a third time and passed.

NEWSPAPER STAMPS.

Lord MELBOURNE moved that the Standing Orders
be suspended as regarded the Newspaper Stamps Bill.—
Agreed to.
On the motion of the same Noble Lord the Bill was then
read a second time, committed, reported, read a third time,
and passed, without any observation.

MUNICIPAL OFFICERS.
The Municipal Officers Election Bill was read a first time,

GREEK LOAN.

The Greek Loan Bill was read a first time.
Lord MELBOURNE gave notice that he should move the
second reading on Monday.
SLAVE COMPENSATION.

The Slave Compensation Bill was read a third time and
passed.

The Usher of the Black Rod announced that the managers
of the Commons were ready for the conference, and the fol-
lowing Peers were appointed to manage the conference on the
part of the Lords, namely, the Duke of Richmond, Lord
Westmeath, Lord Caledon, the Bishop of Bristol, Lord Mon-
son, Lord Fitzgerald, and another Noble Peer whose name we
did not catch.

On the raturn of the managers,
The Earl of WESTMEATH moved that the Commons'
reasons for disagreeing to their Lordships' amendments be
taken into consideration.

The reasons having been read,
Lord PLUNKETT trusted that the Noble Lord (West-
meath) would not persevere in his amendment. It would he
most prejudicial to the interests of the tenants, and would be
most inconvenient in practice.
After a few words from Lord WYNFORD,
Lord FITZGERALD and VESCI would suggest to his
Noble and Learned Friend near him not to insist upon the
amendment. With every wish to co-operate with the Noble
Lords with whom he had always acted, he thought, on this
occasion, there were circumstances to justify their Lordships
in departing from the principles which had always guided them
in adhering to their amendments.

(LEFT SITTING.)

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Auausr 11.
ESTABLISHED CHURCH BILL.

The Order of the Day being moved for taking into con-
sideration the Lords' amendments to the Established Church
Bill,

Mr. HUME still entertained the same objections to this
Bill which be had before expressed.
Mr. HALL must take that opportunity of expressing
his regret that the Lords had struck out that part of the
Bill which required that the Bishops and Clergy of the
principality of Wales should be acquainted with the lan-
guage of the people. It was said by a Right Rev. Pre-
late in the other House that a knowledge of the lan-
guage was not necessary as regarded the Bishops, be-
cause they were not pastures populi, but pastures past();
rum. Now, this observation (lid not appear to him to have
much weight, or to be founded on fact. In Confirmation, for
instance, it was the duty of the Bishop to explain to the
people the nature and the object of that rite ; and how could.
he no so unless he was capable of addressing the people in
that language which they alone understood ? It was one
of the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England that
to prenli in a language which the people did not under-
stand was contrary to the Word of God ; and yet here
was the Archbishop of Canterbury appointing persons to
discharge the duties of bishops in Wales who were utterly
ignorant of the language. This, however, was not the
only subject of complaint, for the bishops that were sent
to his unfortunate country seemed to become immediately
possessed with the most unbounded spirit of nepotism, and
to devote the whole of their attention to the interests of
their relations. Was it to be wondered at, under such
circumstances, that Dissent was so widely spread in the prin-
cipality? What took place in the diocese of St. Asaph,
under the late Bishop ? (Here the Hon. Member read a
list of ecclesiastical and other situations held by the bishop's
son both in Hereford and Wales, which, together with a
profitable lease of land given him by his father, amounted
to the sum of 6,135/. a year.) Altogether the income en-
joyed by the late bishop and his family was not less than
23,6751. a year.—(Hear.) In the diocese of Bangor and of
St. David's the abuses were nearly as great, and all this while -
the working clergy had scarcely enough to sustain life. It
washy no means uncommon in Wales to see the clergyman