The Sun.
London, England, 1822-12-09 00:00:00

SECULAR CLERGY-AN ANSWER.

Ma, EDITOR—If VcarrAs is so well informed
as he appears to be as to the etiquette or law
which regulates the Bar,l think from thence
arises presumptive evidence, that he is or ought
to be aware of the law that regulates the Church
of England. if he does know it, he might have
given yoq references to it, and dispensed with
his inquiry. If he does not know it, he had
better divulge the name of the individual to whom
he alludes) and then those who do know the law,
will know also how to deal with the case.
Veritas appears, or would wish to appear very
zealous for the honour and dignity of the Esta-
blished Clergy, and, so illustrates his sincerity by
stating a (and for what the Public may know,
by making a fictitious) case of irregularity in
the life of one of its members ; without giving
any clue which in the first place, can possibly
lead to a discovery of the offender or substantiate
the accusation ; and in the second place, render
the interference of High Authorities justifiable.
No doubt Veritas would assail me, as a Me.
thodistical writer, were I- to quote from the sa-
cred writings certain passages to shew what oc-
cupations employed the ,first Christian Ministers,
and afterwards point out the reason why in our
modern Church, it was necessary that a new rule
should prevail, which was to prevent the Chris-
tian Ministry, neglecting those who were by
Providence put under their care.

Indeed, it is unnecessary to do this, as it
would not apply particularly to my purpose, and
it might be thought that I wish to extenuate im-
proper conduct in the Clergy.
But, Mr. Editor, I do think that in the pre-
sent day, especially, and at all times, that it is
most unmanly and unfaithful, if Veritas be
a IVlember of the Established Church of Eng-
!anal to spread these accusations against any
of its Members, without daring to afford any
means whereby the transgressor may be fixed
upon. Veritas may nr obliged by being told what
is nom meant by
_Secular Clergy ; that I do not
doubt ; but what will the satisfaction he may ex-
perience in having gained his desired information
avail in this case ? It will neither prove the in-
dividual.to whom he alludes to be a real living
character or the case not to be a fictitious one
made, as is now-aday too much 'the practice,
merely to lower the Clergy, in every possible
method that can be invented. This is certainly
much the fashion, like those pitiful and empty
anecdotes which, I regret to say, were lately in-
truded into your useful Journal.* Impartiality
has ever distinguished your columns ; but impar-
tiality, when it ceases to discriminate and act on
fundamental rules of, justice verges too quickly
into rank licentiousness ; and when justice is not
the guide on both sides, impartiality has no room
to' come in and decide. Such I conceive to he
the case of Veritas : that his communication is
neither, just or justifiable. Finally, I will give Ve-
ritas credit for his veracity, but, if without hy-
pocrisy, for his letter has a shade of that about
it, Veritas does mean well to the Established
Church, he, as one merely acquainted with the
etiquette of the Bar, must know this, that, until
a Minister is complained against and his name
and abode given up by those shamefaced tra
ducers, for we have a right to call them so, when
names are not mentioned, it is not the duty of,,
the higher Ministers in the Church to be seeking
after instances of irregularity, but it is their
DUTY, on any complaint being honourably and
regularly made, then to interfere and punish the
offender accordingly. If, also, Veritas is so much I
interested about the dignity of the Church,would
it not have been as mild and effectual a method,
if he had-communicated the case which distresses
him so much as it seems to do, by letter to the
Bishop to whose diocese he belongs, and if he
had refused to notice the matter, then for this
Orthodox Defender of this Ecclesiastical State
to have called the attention of the Public to it,
through the medium of a Daily Print.
Dec. 5, 1822.

VESPER.

.° It is proper to observe, that the Letter of VERITAS to
which 'VESPER refers, appeared originally in a Morning Paper,
and, by desire, was copied into THE SUN.

SOCIETY of the SONS of the CLERGY
OF THE ESTABLISHED CHURCH OF SCOTLAND:

On Thursday last this highly respectable
Society dined together at the Albion Tavern,
Aldersgate-street, MATTHEW BAILLIE, M. D.
F. R. S., in the Chair. Amongst the Company,
which was very numerous, were—
Sir Thos. Farquhar, Bart., Alex. Robertson, Esq. M.P. •the
Rev. Dr. Barclay, Dr. Somerville, Capt. Nairne, A. Moncrieff,
11l Esq. G. 'Kenzie Simpson, Esq. W. M'Culloch, Esq. J. Ban-
natyne, Esq. H. Blain, Esq. D. Wilkie, Esq. T. Mackenzie,
Esq.. Robert Small, Esq., &c. &c.
The principal object of this Society is to promote a general
intercourse amongst the Sons of the Scottish Clergy resident in
the Metropolis; with a view to forwarding the advancement in
life of their younger brethren, by the joint or individual patron-
age of the Members of the Society: Since the formation of this
Society, in 1819, the Secretary has received strong assurances of
co-operation from the various Societies established for similar
purposes ; and particulirly from that recently formed at Cal-
cutta, from which the laudable views of this Society are likely
to derive much benefit:

When the town of Sheffield first became fa-
mous for the manufacture of cutlery, a very curi-
ous knife, calculated for a variety of uses, was
executed with great care, and sent to the Cutlers'
Company in London. On one of the blades was
engraved the following challenge :

" Sheffield made both haft and blade :
London, for thy life, shew me such another knife."
The London cutlers, to show that they were
not inferior to their more northern brethren,
finished, and sent down to Sheffield, a pen-
knife, containing only one well-tempeied blade,
in which was a cavity, and in the cavity
a piece of straw, fresh and unsinged. Some
lines on the blade, mentioning this fact, in-
duced the Sheffield cutlers to break it, when they
found the straw, and, unable to account for the
manner in which it was done, or to imitate it,
they confessed themselves surpassed in ingenuity.

Azefid Instance of: Sudden Death.—At four
o'clock on Monday afternoon, as Mrs. Trye, of Moorend
Grotto, relict of William Trye, Esq. was about to sit down to
dinner, she was seized with apoplexy, and remained in a state
of insensibility from that period until eight o'clock in the even,
ing, when .she expired.

PRICE 0
Tills DAY AT

Bank Stock 243
3 per Cent. Red. 7B}
3 per Cent. Cons. shut
31 per Cent.
ld
4 per Cent. {
New shut
per Cents. 1797
Bank Lg. Ann.... 20 20.1-10th
Imp. 3 per Cents. ~

F STOCKS
ONE O'CLOCK.

India Stock
India Bonds '..o
South Sea Stock
Old Annuities
Ex. Bills 2 4 I'
Ditto Small
Bank for Act.
India for Con. Acct.......
Cons. for Account 803.1;

PRICE OF FOREIGN STOCKS IN LONDON, DEC• d'
French Five per Cents. 854.
(Six per Cents. 00. -
Russian Five per Cents. (Metallic) 00.
(Ditto New. 8-1.
Neapolitan { ii;Crviepi:76ent. bonds, 75'
Austrian Five per Cents. (Metallic) 00-
Five per Cent. Bonds, 54.
Spanish --f New Ditto, 51.
Scrip, 124 disc.
f Five per Cent. Bonds,- 3-Li.
1 Ditto New, 84. •
Five per Cent. Bonds,- 90.• •
71. . ~
Old Bonds, 00...
Colombian Six per Cent. Bonds, 72.
Ditto Scrip,: 09.
{
Peruvian ' New Loan,. 00.
. • Bank Shares £2l 10s.
American
Six per Cent. 92-98.
'
Five per Cent.- 9tL . .
. -..„ 'Three per Cent. 70i.
•
—.l. .

Prussian

Danish
Chili

PRICE OF IRISH STOCK, DEc. 5.
.."
Bank Stock - 251 -Grand-Canal Loan, 4 p.ctr
,d
Gov. Deb. 3} per cent 93 Ditto 3 per cent.... toi
Stock, :31 per ct 923g DittoStock '
Gov. Deb. '4 per cent...... 24 Royal Canal Stock . ...... "
Gov. Deb. 5 per cent.
—Stock, li per cent., i- Do. Deb. with Gov. So
Treasury Bills, 5 per cent,— Pipe Water Deb. 5 per ct.
City Debentures, 5 per Do.
cent.
Lying in Hospital 4 per ct. Ballast
perla st
cent.Of Ie e 6Per Govt.cesnet;
Exchange on London, Dec. 4, 84.

111GH WATER AT LONDO
Morning, 14 minutes after 11.

.IBRIDGE TO-MORROW'
Evening, 43 minutes after I"

THE SUN.

sor.gm QUIS DICERE FALSUM AUDEAT 7

LONDON,
-MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, 827.

[FROM A CORRESPONDEK.T.]

STOCK EXCHANGE, half-pastlzx
Consols opened at 802, and. went up to 4, and gr
to this hour are 1. In the earlier part of
morning a good deal of business was doing"
Three expresses arrived this morning from Parls'
when the closing price of the French Funds
Saturday evening was 88, Neapolitan 77, Spa'

ish 552

FOREIGN MARKET.—LittIe doing except Al°
Spanish Bonds, which opened this morning at.
54, and are now 53. Private letters, by the C74'
press this morning, positively assert that the
French Minister VILLELE is against a war 1411'
Spain, and that he is determined to prevent it'
taking place. It is also stated in private ietters
that the King of FRANCE will do nothing against
Spain without the consent of the British
Government. Upon the Whole, the informati°
from Paris is of a very pacific nature, the priCes
of Foreign Securities are the same as Saturclal
up to this hour. Spanish Scrip 11 discount,Ne
Spanish Bonds 53.

The tone of the French Papers, as our Reader"`
will see from the extracts inserted in our Pre;
ceding columns, is again of a pacific nature. rib
article in the Moniteur, giving an account of the
final expulsion of the remains of D'Ertoos
army from the Spanish territory, studiously CO
pliments General MINA for the respect paid t°-
the
French frontier, and to the French Authoritieci
„o
when the line of separation between the 'ce
countries checked his victorious pursuit of '
art
routed insurgents. The fugitives, on their pits
were required to lay down their arms as sOn,
they entered upon the French soil. This res .ioo
acknowledgment in the llioniteur of the utter Oil
of 'the Army of the Faith, and the rspectilit
manner in which the conduct of the Constituticirit'
re" ,
General is at 'the same time mentioneot o
t„ '
strong symptoms of some is a"-ro
tion in the views and intentions of the freli,
Cabinet. It must not be too hastily inferrevje
however, that.the threatened war will actualli
averted. It is certain that Russia and France
to'
privately determined on the invasion of Sp"'
ace'
which Russia would have given her assist3.ol
and that important. advantages -awe stir°
for by France, in the event of succes".,
Her own wishes, therefore, the promised sic,
s t.l
port of Russia, and the expected profit's 0'
rid,
cess, are in favour of war. On the other no,
there are the risks of failure, from the deterf°lo.
ed character of the Spaniards themselves'
e$ ,
the nature of their country, the hazard of nri
F°
plosion in France itself, and the inflexible
the,
sition of Great Britain to an attack ur° cl;
Peninsula,' all loudly warning the .:a
Government against committing itself '"
ee
enterprise, of which it is impossible to fore
m tb
the termination. It is not surprising,
dilemma to which it is reduced, that it sgl,oo
s'o
appear to waver betweeen conflicting mot' r
From the letter of Mr. CANNING to the
01'
tuguese Government, (see a preceding, cola
00,
it is evident that England is distinctly and r of
tively pledged to maintain the indepoldefl°