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London, England, 1849-07-20 00:00:00

FRENCH INTERFERENCE IN ROME.

29

Colonel THOMPSON presented a petition from Brad.
ford, complainmg of the interference of the French in
Rome, and praying the House to adopt some step which
would compel the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs
to send a strong remonstrance to the French Govern-
merit on the subject.
TAKING EVIDENCE BEFORE COMMIT TEES.
Mr. W. PATTEN seeing the Noble Lord the Member
;or Bath in his place, was anxious t r put a que•tiou to
him, as to the rules of taking evidence before Commit•
tees. The Noble Lord bad lately presided over a Com-
mittee with- respect to the Woods and Forests; it was
with reference to the course pursued with respect to the
evidence taken before that Committee that he wished to
put a question to the Noble Lord. The Honourable
Member, after reading the rule laid down by the
House with respect to taking evidence before
Committees, observed that it appeared that there was
summoned before the Committee a Mr. Gore, one of the
Commissioners of Woods and Forests. That gentleman
gave evidence before the Committee, but he found after-
wards that he had made most material mistakes, and
bad given very erroneous evidence ; and when his evi-
dence was sent to him to correct, he corrected
it, and sent it into the Committee over
which the Noble Lord • presided. Subsequently
he received a communication from the clerk of
the Committee, that the corrections were con-
sidered by the Committee to be inadmissible, and he was
requested to send in another copy of his corrections.
Mr. Gore, however, did not know what corrections were
objected to, and therefore he was unable to scud in a
corrected copy. The questions he wished to put to the
Noble Lord were, first, whether the facts were as he
had stated; and, secondly, whether Mr. Gore's evidence
would be published without his corrections?
Lord DUNC AN said it was quite true that subsequently
to Mr. Gore's examination he returned his evidence
to the Committee in a corrected shape. On looking over
that evidence, as it was his duty to do, as Chairman of
the Committee, he found that most important corrections
had been made by Mr. Gore in the evidence be had
given, corrections which, if they had been made at the
moment of his giving the evidence, would have induced
a great deal larger examination. Under the.,e circum-
stances, he felt it his duty to bring the matt. -r under the
consideration of the Committee. Tile instructions to the
Committee were to allow no corrections that were not in
the hand-writing of the witness; and finding that two, if
not more, persons had been employed in correct-
ing this evidence, he sent a communication to
Mr. Gore, stating, that if he wouli make

certain alterations in his own hand-writing, he would
again bring the subject before the Committe. Ile had,
however, received no reply, which placed him in a some-
what difficult position; and his course now would be to
consult the Speaker, as to the mode of his proceeding.
Mr. W. PATTEN asked the . obh Lord what curse
he intended to take in reference to printing the evidence?
Lord DUNCAN said he should fodow the precedent
of Lord Monteagle, and print the evidence in its origi-
nal form, together with the directions.
Mr. BRIGHT inquired whether or not Mr. Gore's
attention had been directed to the fact of the corrections
being in two or three different hands.?
Sir GEORGE GREY appealed to the Speaker, as the
highest authority on the subject, to state what was the
proper mode of proceeding under the circumstances.
The SPEAKER said it was important that any infor-
mation procured under the order of the Houte should
be perfectly correct, and he thought it was the duty of
the Committe, under the circtuubtances, to recal the
witness for re-examination.

Lord DUNCAN, in reply to the question of the Hon.
Member for Manchester, stated that he publicly objected
in the Committee to the corrections being in several
handwritings.

Lord JO-OELYN asked if the communication sent to
Mr. Gore wa,, sanctioned by the Committee?
Lord DUNCAN rccalicd to the Noble Lord's recol-
lection, who was a member of the Committee, that this
matter was referred to the consideration of four gentle-
men on the Committee, and it was at their instance the
communication was sent to Mr. Gore.

Mr. HAYTER said the Committee had allowed Mr,
Gore to revise his evidence, but requested him at the
same time to make as few alterations as he possibly
could consistent with its accuracy. It appeared to him
that the Committee had acted altogether unofficially iu
not complying with the rules of the House, and under
those circumstances he saw no alternative but to have
the evidence as revised by Mr. Gore printed.
Sir GEORGE CLERK said he agreed that the diffi-
culty arose from the Committee not complying 'A ith the
rules of the House. He thought that Committee
ought to exercise a great deal of jealousy with regard
to the evidence of witnesses, but it a wimess was mis-
understood, and his evidence before the Committee taken
incorrectly, he thought that an opportunity should be
afforded to him of be►ng re-examined, and of making the
necessary corrections. In order to get out of their
present difficulty, the, beat way would be to send back
the evidence to the Committee, with an instruction that
,they re-assemble and examine Mr. Gore upon those
points with reference to which inaccuracies had occurred.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated
that a similar case to the present occurred before the
banking committee. A witness who was allowed to
correct his evidence, so materially altered the sense of
it, that his evidence in its corrected form was added to
the end of the report. He apprehended, that under
such circumstances, that was not wily the best, but the
only course that could be pursued.
After some further discussion,

On-the motion of Lord JO/IN RUSSELL, it was
agreed that it be an instruction to the Committee to re-
assemble, and to re-examine Mr. Gore and such other
witnesses as might be deemed necessary.
MILITIA PAY BILL.
This Bill was read a third time and passed.
ADVANCE OF MONEY (ATHLONE AND GAL-
WAY RAILWAY) BILL.
This Bill was also read a third time and passed.
JUDGMENTS (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill as amended was considered and agreed to,
and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow at twelve
o'clock.

• STAMPS AND ALLOWANCES BILL.
This Bill as amended was conbidered bud agreed to,
and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow ut twelve
o'clock.

PILOTAGE BILL.
Mr. LABOUCHERE moved the second reading of
his Bill.

Sir G. CLERK opposed the second reading. He
complained that it should be hurried through the House
at a period when the opponents of the Bill had no op
portunity of stating their objections to the measure.
He thought the Bill was extremely objectionable, and
ought not to be allowed to pass in its present form. He
thought that the regulation proposed by it would be
opp..sed, not only by our own mercantile navy, but also
by foreigners. He thought that the interests of a large
body of men like our pilots ought to have been more con-
sulted than to be attacked by such a hasty measure.
It would have been a much wiser course to have
allowed this measure to stand over to another
session. The Bill was certainly defective in itself, cud
there were many points in it which might be objected
to by all classes of the mercantile navy.
To vessels sailing en distant voyages this Bill would
grant no relief whatever, or at all events but au indirect
relief. Unless the Hon. Gentleman was prepared to
make some modifications in the Bill, he would move that
it be read this day six months.
Mr. M.. GI SON thought the Hon. Gentleman bad
opposed
this Bill with a degree of zeal which it was
rinrdly necessary for the Hon. Member for Dover to
display.—(A laugh.) Our pilot laws had their origin
when steam navigation bad not even been invented, and
when there were no surveys of !he coast; and he 1.,a11)

tnought the time had arriitd when, under an Unproved
system of navigation, and with it higher degree of bkill

among our seamen, some alteration should be made In
our pilotage-laws. The Bill was merely optional, or, I_l'
other word., it gave to a master or mate of a vessel pre;
perly qualified, sailing to or from the Cinque Foe.
the cnoice of taking a pilot on board or not. 11,„
thought the Bill did not go far enough. Taking ill
consideration the improved system of navigation will°,
now obtains, and especially the practice of steam tug
ging, he thought such a Bill was exceedingly well.
Mr. RICE opposed the Bill, and would continue toll?
so unless some important modifications were made in .
Captain PI CIIELL supported the Bill, because it w;
likely to work the utmost good, and regretted that 1a•
terested monopolists at the, sea-ports opposed the
pt
He denied that the Bill would be an invasion 01 1":.
portant rights, but an invasion of monopolists. od
Mr. RICARDO said the Trinity Board were disP°l:d
to rink,. certain relaxations with respect to pilote,,esie
this Bill tv,zs simply to enable them to effect it•
e.
merchants interested in the shippieg trade having LI
ceived so many relaxations, it 'was unlikely ' 110".
they wool.] longer .übmit to this monstrous'
justice. It was like compelling an omnibus proPri),
to let a pilot accompany his driver in his „Willie
between Hyde Park and the Bank. That wse
whole question. He should support the Bill, hecAs„-,t.
he believed shipmasters perfectly capable of coew",;(0
ing their ships without the intervention of pilots. 703,
they wanted them they would of course employ them
Mr. ANDERSON said that pilotage fell fat °3.1,,
heavily on steam shipping than any other class of vesicle,
tor they hat &Atoll to pay enormous sums for pilots bg
ports where they did not require them. He those
some alteration ought to be made in that respect.
Mr. MOFFATT supported the Bill.
Mr. LABOUCIIERE did not intend that theh
measure should settle the question of pilotage, bdt fto
iutended it as a measure to remove a great grievance. 0.
(lid not despair iu a future session of bringing in s Tbs
prefeilisive measure on the subject of pilotage. IA
object of the present Bill, which was permissive
not compulsory, was .to give merchant vie
,o,
an opportunity of employing their own masters and mates
instead of sworn pilots where it was not thought lie the
sary. He had no objection to the introduction
words suggested by the Right Hon. Baronet the Ptil
ber for Dover, although he had been told by his rear"oocl
Friend the Attorney-General that the Bill as it stra
would only be of a permissive character and not e°"'
pulsory. r
Mr. GOULBURN said the Bill was merely Of
permissive character, he had no objection to it; but
thought some difficulties would arise from the :re
privilege not being conferred on foreign tho,,eel
allowed to British ships. At present tree
existed which placed many foreign siIiPS.A if
the same footing as British bottoms, atolil
those treaties were enforced the foreigner is
come upon the Treasury for the amounts they PP"
the shape of pilotage.
Mr LABOUCHERE did not anticipate mull -Le
culties of that sort, as the same 'privilege would to
extended to all foreign ships, having on board a test
I or mate, or other officer competent to pilot the vesee
(LEFT SITTING.)

HER MAJESTY'S THEATIa: tbe
Madame Sontag last night appeared as Amine labd
Sohnam6ula, a character in which Jenny Liod,,ofer
so recently appeared, and one which she had wor` et'
so completely made her own, that nothing could hsve„t9g,
cured the rashness of the attempt, by Madame St),'",be
save success of the most triumphant and undoubted
racter, and that success Madame Sontag has ttehii.r.o
the Lind herself could not have excited a greater),,,g"„e
Her aria d'intrata "Come per me sereno" was °!74,0
vellous piece of vocal excellency. It was a rich aped Bet
of perfect musical embroidery, the chromatic pas.'o,l
were given with an ease, a brilliancy, and a peace° of
intonation which are to be found combined In 13°,!, eS:
singer. Her management of her sotto voce in i'l,rtre
quisite performance was beyond all praise, and ir°P,;cly
to it a delicacy and a finish which is quite inaPPr' bl
able. Madame Sontag showed her tsetemos
preserving the beautiful duet " Son gel
which the Atnieas of late years have too getni, es'
omitted. It was sung by herself and rslzalari w"1•011'
quisite taste, and kept up the enthteitte u of the f
once, which bad been roused to an inituse pitqb„°. The
light by her performance of the " Come serener. 01
somnambulist scene, both as regards to
acting, was very effectively- given, and
finale to this scene, in which she e"l),"esiu
agony to Elvino, was acted with an ill`f soot
and truthfulness that strongly reminded us Alpe
Malibran. Her mute appeal to Heaven to bear,". Ir
to her innocence, as, turning away from , a
falls on her knees, with uplifted hands :67pati
attitude of prayer, was quite a new reading of,„ tTs,ceg,
and was as artistically executed as it was onehovh
ceived. Beautiful also was her acting in the 5010 A'
Elvino, in the last act—the " Tutto e sciolto" orifig'
percte" scene. She s; erred sad and heart breofitti
rather than heart-broken—the agony had not ee Dot
td
numbness of despair bad not yet come on, she reefe`
ceased to feel as heart-broken persons cease to ten
vieo.ll;
the wound was yet green and the agony was Ye.,t,sl- i"f
The finale, the far-famed "Non giunge,"
most brilliant vocal display perhaps ever witne"oice'
a physiologist wishes to know what the bunseoshei to
capable of accomplishing, if a musician wi, chef!!
ascertain what is the extent of his art, ,eoge
hear Madame Sontag sing " Ah non Poet
and each will find his problem solved. AI. i-have"
roils encore and a shower of bouquets tree
htr performance of this exquisite air, and and on P—pro'
tiion the applause and the bouquets were in inOre•ic¢lo
fusion than at first. Madame Sontag was called on tvhc- the,
the conclusion of the first act, and four times et to
conclusion of the opera. She was excellently sue 0e
by Calzolari as Enrico,' and by Beletti as the disa,
The house was again crowded to excess—not a 14.-800
a box was unoccupied, and the gallery and pit 9'
two vast seas of human beads.

CLOSE OF THE HAYMMARI‘P-
111' •
SEASON —BENEFIT OF MR. WEBSI . 01111
On Monday next the Haymarket season closes,"
4s You Like It, Flying Colours, and An €' •111,1,
ing Sacrffice, the per 's:)rm nces being 109
benefit of Mr. Webster, to whom the who°
of the legitimate drama—nay, we will add t°
„eare;
the lovers of English poetry, and of English lite'-foo/,
are more indebted than to any other metlageri:;,bilso
others
sheetaithrge
nw
si t
penny
wise
and
pkoionogdd efS
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have pandered to every depraved taste for pose
purpose of "raising the wind," have desecrated tut; el
pies of ShAspere by turning them into operePr;:st
show-booths, or worse still, into masquerade itu°,.ser,
dens of vice, Mr. Webster alone has felt a °II" bat
of the important trust confided to his eh
e"
when he became manager of a theatre. Throug- a 0
report and through good report, in adverse times
prosperous times, the little theatre in the 1:10rTo ia3o,
has never been devotid to other than its lep. bif•,-
purposes ; there the drama and dramatic artists toll,
always found a home and a welcome, and the se
change has been from comedy to tragedy atilt
vice versa. We trust that Mr. Webster's hooo`d;
rte
course of conduct has met with fitting reward duriliroef.
last season, with honour due we know it bas ricer
Had it not been that Mr. Webster at the 1:10.P"„"1 15,
not only kept alive a taste for the drama, but hero",
gether the only dramatic company in the metil,:ce:
capable of, performing Sbakspere, the Pe" OS
some at Windsor Castle would never have to
place, and the last chance of a revival of a IP-„;
dramaic literature weuld have been 105t,..-0
bra
Lovers of a good English play, assemble at tveho bra
msrket, on Monday next, to do honour to one Wicbef)-
n• ver hesitated at making An Alarming Sacrifice',o AY.
ever by so doing he could forward the cause of:,n'
gitim Its drama, and, As You Like lt, rally round hips
he may come off with Flying Colours.

MARRIAGE OF LOLA MONTEZ (COUNTESS 4:)tnljn:fil
FELDT),--This extraordinary lady, whose 0011,0",,
with !ale events in Bavaria will be in the recoil T
of our readers, was married yesterday to George core'
ford Heald, Eq., (of the 2d Life Guards.). Dineel,ae'
muny took place first at the French Catholic cbar:dogra
subsequently at St. George's Church, Hanover""oin
Mr. Heald is a very young man, having not loagoboo
attained his majority. His income is stated to be
14000/. iwr annum.
ANTWERPEN STEAM VESSEL: SlindMiOSYtbje
.
Bth ult., a most gratifying scene took places 13.,
this elegant vessel, viz., the presentation of a vr'der, WI
some silver cup to Captain Jackson, the comma felt
Mr. Dixon, the proprietor of the celebrated horse o,'d
sitory in Barbican. Mr. Dixon, in presenting tu-h Pt
Captain Jackson, made a most elegant sigee,e-iet#
warmly eulogisfal the conduct of the Captain. :he Fr;
tendon, he said, that Well at all times paid t°
stingers, and the care that was taken of the were
001.e'
:(1
that was placed in his keeping, deserved more tblots'
spect; he begged, therefore, that the worthy it'of e,5;
would accept the trifle he now offered as a triar,'7i,otiea
teem for his uniform good conduct, and his wililso4'
on all occasions to render the voyage to all bin,
egg.
gers a trip of pleasure instead of a matter of bus"so(
THE LABOURING CLASSES AND THE C"tloo,oe*
The Committee. of the Public Baths and WssnOr-
George-street, Euston square, have just issueuk
copies of an address to the labouring classes ill tto
trict of the metropolis, relative to the best ty"
preventing the progress of cholera. The el be
dwelt at great length, and with much force, ell b.n,
cessity of cleanliness, both as respects persorlaildiess
and the condition of their lodgings. The ea;
calculated to be productive of much good. "ecjergit
take this opportunity of earnestly pressing on tbeciosek
and all who have influence with the labouring Aide'
to urge upon them the importance of freely 11611$ P. •
wash and chloride of lime in their dwellings,
presence of so dreadful a disease as the cholera'
oared
long OYSTER MINE.—A. bed of oysters fortfoore
long and eight or ten wide, has recently been diderepo;
in the Channel, about fifty miles S.S. W. of She9i
The oysters are large, del,cate, and delicious. d
00
of smacks are continually dredging on the bed, sfl bgo
of the vessels bring their cargoes into Shorebe;re
bour. largely benetitting the tosn.—Brighten

LIEU.

4 co'.

At Edinburgh, on the 14th inst., Colonel llugah
,
bell, B.A. di& of
On the 15th inst., at Byfield-housa, Barnes, Anilf001:1 •
ter of the late R. Lindesay, Esq., of Leughryt cu
.01
Tyrone, Irelanl6thd. _ ~ OPP
On the inst., at Milton-on• Thames, Nell" I,
John Holbrow, of the Bengal Army, aged 58. . . P/P!„."
At Eltham, Kent, on the 6th inst.. aged 60, Lolll6%yilP"
bread, widow of J. Whitbread, Esq., of Trehaven,
Cornwall. cf
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