The Sun.
London, England, 1825-02-25 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The House was engaged at its sitting in forming a Com-
mittee to try the contested election for Huntingdon. The ballot
took till half-past four o'clock, at which time the Gallery was
opined.
3lr. SCOTT presented a Petition from Bridport, praying for
-the repeal of the Duty on Coals.
Mr. LESTER presented a Petition from Poole, praying the
repeal of the Assessed Taxes.
Mr. W. DUNDAS presented a Petition from Edinburgh,
pra,ying a repeal of the 'Duties on Fire Assuranzes.
nir J. NEWPORT presented a Petition from the city and
county of Waterford, most respectably signed by those of the
most considerable landed property, and passed at a meeting dis-
tinguished for the dispassionate propriety of the proceedings,
against the impending Rill to put down the Catholic Associa-
tion passing into a law. Tile first signature was that of a person
who had since died at 103 years of age, in possession of great
landed property.
Mr. GEORGE LAMB supported the Petition.
Mr. D. GILBERT presented a petition from Penzance,
- praying the repeal of the duty on 'coals. Also a petition in
taveur of the County Courts Bill. A similar Petition from
Truro.
Sir W. GUISE presented a similar Petition from Chelten-
ham. •
Sir N. COLBORNE presented a Petition from Magistrates
sad freeholders of Norfolk-against removing the Assizes from
lltietford.
Mr. DYSON attended with the list of names appointed for
the Election CoMmittee, which were declared as follows :
Sir D. J. Astley ; F. Hodgson, Esq. ; W. Holmes, Esq.;
Jornes Philliinore, Esq. ; lion. Henry B. Lygon ; W. H.
'Plant, Esq.; John Bai ; R. 13. Cooper, Esq. ;
C.. Ross, Esq. ; Hon. T. Knox ; .1. Mr. Clements, Esq. ;
iii. Cjrbett, Esq. ; T. Whitmore, Esq. ; Lord Nugent ; and
Si: George Warrender. •
Mr. RENFE LI, moved for an account of 'the uumber of
prsons confined for offences against the game laWs during the
last year, distinguishing those who were sentenced to the
treadmill.—Ordered.

Air. G. LA;'IB presented a Petition from the Roman Ca-
th:):ics of the town of Dungarvan, against the Bill for sup-
prr.ssing the Catholic Association.—Ordered to be printed.
WORTLEY presented a Petition from the mer-
chants and traders of Whitby, praying for the repeal of the
stamps on receipts for money. lie also presented a Petition
Iron; tne same place in favour of the County Courts Bill ; and
a Petition from Doncas,er, praying that no alteration shall be
inale in the Corn laaws.—Laid on the table.
IIONYWOOI) presented a petition from the inhabi-
tant.; of Deptford, praying for the repeal of the Assessed Taxes.
Ordered to be printed.
The Hon. Member also presented a petition.frorn Aylesford,
praying for the repeal of the Duties on Coals carried Coast-wise.
Laid on the table.

Ar. ASTELL presented a petition from Bridgewater, for
the repeal of the house and Window Tax.—Laid on the
able. _ _ .

Mr. C. HUTCHINSON rose to present a petition from the
Roman Catholic Inhabitants of the city of Cork, against the i
for the suppression of the Catholic Association. The peti-
boners stated, that " the House had no right to interfere with a
vuluntary contribution, the objects of which had been already
avowed. Those objects were to afford education to the poor,
and to defend the character of the vilified and oppressed pea-
santry of Ireland, who were exposed to many local injuries and
hardships. The prayer of the petition was, that counsel should
be heard at the bar in support of the Catholic Association. The
:pe.t.tiou (observed the lion. Member) came from the county of
CCork and the city of Cork—the former, the largest county in
Ireland, and the latter the largest city after Dublin in that
country. It was most numerously signed, and the meeting at
which it was proposed was, he understood, enost respectably at-
tended. The Roman Catholics in that county, and he might
_ add, throughout Ireland, were indignant at the attack made on
the Association, and they bad but one opinion as to the advan-
tagss which had been derived from it. He conceived that the
way in which the Association had been spoken of in that House
was most unjust and most unwarrantable. He spoke warmly
00 this subject, because it excited in his breast feelings of the
warmest description. The measure against which the petition
was directed was not more disliked by the Roman Catholics
tiata it was by all liberal Protestants. It was asserted that the
Roman Catholics hated the Protestants, because, forsooth, the
Protestants were all Orangemen. This was a gross misrepre-
sentation. The Orange party formed a very small portion of
the Protestant body. When it was stated that the Catholics,
when they declared against the ()range party, declared also
,v:air.st the Protestant body, the statement was entirely errone-
ow:. If time were given, the petitions against this measure
fry, every part of Ireland would be most numerous. The table
would be so crowed with petitions, that the Speaker would not
only be prevented from seeing the mace or the sergeant, but
the clock would be hidden from his view.—(A laugh.)-41 ten
days or a fortnight were given to collect the sense of the people
in different parts of Ireland, they would be enabled, from the
petitions of Catholics and Protestants, to see what the real Ca-
uiclic and Protestant feeling was. The petition was then
brought up, lead, and ordered to be printed.
fir. RUM BO IJD prevented a petition from Great Yarmouth
against the duties on coals.—Ordered to be printed.
WODEHOUSI presented petitions from Hillingdon,
sad two other places in the countyof Norfolk, against the duties
on.coals.—Laid on the table.
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON presented a petition from the
dealers in tobacco of the city of London, praying for a reduc-
tion of the duty on that article. It was purchased, the peti-
tioners observed, at 4d. per lb., and the duty on it was no less
than 4s. per lb. This, they complained, was a very great in_
centive to smuggling; and they also objected to the tax, be-
ea.uee it fell most severely on the lower orders of the people. lie
(Air. Alderman Thompson) hoped, that amongst the reduc-
crocAs which the Chancellor of the Exchequer meant to announce

in his financial statement on Monday next, the tax on tobacco
would not be forgotten.
The petition was then read, and ordered to be printed.
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON presented a petition from cer-
' tarn charitable institutions against the duties on legacies.— Or-
dered to be printed.
I Mr. Alderman THOM PSON moved for an account of the

quantity of raw and thrown:silk imported into this country,
from Jan. 1824 to Jan.. 1825, distinguishing the country whence
it came • also an account of the drawback paid on silk lodged
in warehouses, under the act of last session, and the towns

where the same was warehoused.—Ordered.
CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION.
Mr. ABERCROMBY presented a Petition from the Parish
of St. Andrew's Dublin, praying that the Catholic Association
might not be suppressed, and stating that the tranquillity of
Ireland was due to its exertions. The Ron, and Learned

Member referred to a petition from certain. Presbyterians in
the County of Tyrone, calling upon the House to put down the
Catholic Association, and stating that it gave protection to
those who involved the country in murder, rapine, and blood-
shed. He knew not where this murder, rapine, and bloodshed
were to be found, when they saw in the King's Speech the de:.
lightful truth that all those severe measures which the House
had adopted for coercing the country had been withdrawn.—
fie alluded to this petition now, because he did not hear it read
when it came before the House, and appealed to the one he was
about to present as well as to the Speech from the Throne for a
contradiction of its statements. . .

Sir J. NEWPORT said, he was well advised that the Go-
vernment possessed documents from the Marquis Wellesley, in
which that Noble Lord expressed his opinion that the Catholic
Association had contributed to the tranquillizing of that coun-
try. He had been informed from a Noble Peer that such a do-
cument was now in possession of the other House.
Mr. GOULBURN made an observation across the table,
which we could not hear. _ .

Sir .J. NEWPORT said, that he should move for the pro-
duction of the document to-morrow.
Mr. Secretary PEEP, said, that if such a document ex-
isted, it would necessarily be laid before the Committee up
stairs.
Sir J. NEWPORT said he had the fact from a Noble Peer
who was incapable of telling a falsehood, and he should to-.
morrow move that the document be lid on the table of the
House.

The'petition was ordered to be printed.
Mr. DENMAN presented two similar petitions, one from
a parish in the county of Cavan ; and the other front Listowel,
county of Kerry.
- Sir T. LETHBRIDGE expressed his surprise at the argu-
ments of the petitioners, and of the Honourable. Gentlemen
who presented all these Petitions. When they assumed that
the tranquillity of Ireland was owining to the acts of this Catho-
lic Association, he thought they were really going a little too
far. He would ask those lion. Gentlemen what might have
been the conduct of this Association, if no such Bill as this had
been introduced ? What was to stop this self-erected, self-ap-
pointed body, which was responsible to no human being for
its acts, and over whom the Roman Catholics themselves had
no controul ? He should have been surprised, indeed, if the
Government had permitted it to continue its existence. In
mercy to the Roman Catholics themselves, he urged the Go-
vernment to persist with a firm and steady hand to press this
measure. It was not for the protection of Ireland alone, but of
the empire at large.
Mr. DEN MAN explained.
Mr. HUME said he would answer the question of the Ho-
nourable Baronet. They could only judge of what would be
the future conduct of the Catholic Association by the past ; and
that, according to the Attorney-General for Ireland, had been
perfectly legal. He was glad to see the Hon. Baronet so mor-
tified at seeing all these petitions from the Catholics, and none
of an opposite nature. It shewed the improved feeling of the
people of England upon the question, when no petitions ap-
peared except from the Clergy, whom he did not blame for
being anxious to preserve their own possessions and incomes.—
The people remained passive, notwithstanding the calls which
had been made upon them by the Hon. Baronet, and by the
Right Hon. Secretary for the Home Department (or the Fo-
reign Secretary), and in spite of the placards which they saw
stuck up all over the Metropolis.
Mr. secretary PEEL said, that he was surprised at the Ho-
nourable Members having ventured to make such an assertion
as that he had sounded an alarm to the country upon this ques-
tion, and in the same sentence to allude to placarding the wails
of ie metropolis. lle never opened his lips upon the subject
of petitioning ; and he would tell the Ilon. Member, that in the
whole course of his life, he never encouraged a petition against
the Roman Catholics— ( Hear, hear !)—because he never wished
to see a petition upon any subject which did not arise from the
spontaneous feeling of the people.--(Cheer4:o—liow, thereihre,
could the Hon. Gentleman venture to accuse hint of sounding
an alarm, and to connect his name with the placarding the walls
of the metropolis.— (Hear, hear t)—He was surprised that any
Hon. Member of that House should condescend to adopt such
means of argument.
Mr. HUME explained that he did not allude to the Right
Hon. Gentleman. After mentioning the Secretary for the
Home Department, be corrected himself, and said the Foreign
Secretary.
Mr. BUTTERWORT H said he was in possession of infor-
mation which shewed that the Protestants of Ireland were in
alarm at the existence of the Catholic Association.
The petitions were ordered to be printed.
Lord C. FITZROY presented a petition from the inhabitants
of the borough Of Thetford, praying that the Assizes may not be
removed from that town.—Ordered to lie printed.
Mr. DENISON presented a petition front Croydon, praying a
repeal of that part of the Assessed Taxes which pressed upon
the necessaries of life.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. GRATTAN presented a petition from the Coal Meter'
of Dublin, praying that the Duty on Seaborne Coals be re-
pealed.—Referred to the Committee on the Local Taxation of
Dublin.
Mr..l. BENET T presented a petition from Warminster, pray-
ing a repeal of the Assessed Taxes.
NORFOLK SUMMER ASSIZES.
Col. WODEIf OUSE rose to call the attention of the House
to the petition of the Magistrates of the county of Norfolk, pray-
ing for leave to bring in a Bill to remove the Summer Assizes
front that county front Thetford to Norwich. The Hon. Mem-
ber said that there were ample reasons why the House should
comply with the prayer of the petitioners, and particUlarly
dwelt upon the distance which the prisoners had to be removed
to trial, and the demoralizing effects which grew out of that-re-
moval. He contended also that it involved. a violation of the
spirit of the laws of the country. A new county gaol had been
built at Norwich at a great expence, .and it was now rendered
as perfect, and was as well regulated as any gaol in the king-
dom. It was close to the Court, and a subterraneous passage
led from the cells of the prisoners into the body of the Court
itself, so that they need not be exposed to the public view.—
He had been told that in making this proposal, he was attack-
ing the prerogative of the Crown ; but this he did not believe.
It was also said that the Judges would object to the increased
distance, and the inconvenience to which that would give rise.
Accustomed as he was to respect the Authorities of the State,
he could not think that these learned and illustrious personages
would consider their own inconvenience in travelling thirty
extra miles, when the public interests required the alteration.
Upon these grounds he called upon the House to support him
in the motion, " That the Petition of the Magistrates of t'he
County of Norfolk, requiring leave to bring in a Bill for
removing the Summer Assizes from Thetford to Norwich,
together with the Petitions against it, be referred to a Select
Committee."
Sir J. SEBRIGHT seconded the motion, and said that he
thought his- Hon. Friend had not gone far enough in stating
his case. He contended that every consideration of morality,
expediency, and justice, was favourable to the alteration.
Mr. It. COLBORNE- stated that he had before felt it his
duty to oppose this question, and he now thought it more ob-
jectionable than ever. The Assizes had been held at Thetford
for six centuries, and it was a source of much wealth to die
place and its neighbourhood. Great sums had also been ex-
pended upon the gaol and Courts, and no objection could now
be brought against them. And this expence had not been paid
by the County, but out of the private funds of tee Borough._
He did not mean to say, that these reasons were conclusive
against the removal, but they required that a strong case should
be made out before they were altogether disregarded. Not-
withstanding what had fallen front his Hon. Friend, he must
regard this as an interference with the prerogative of the Crown
It appeared to him to be as much so, as if his Hon. Friend
called upon the House to appoint the Lord Lieutenant or the
High Sheriff's of the county. He should, however, leave this
part of the case in the hands of the Right Hon. Secretary for
Home Department. lie denied that this measure originated at
the wish of the county ; it was Only at the wish of the estern part
of it, which would be benefited by the removal. The petition
which he had presented to the House against the removal, was
one of the most respectable nature, and deserved their serious
attention. With regard to the distance front the county gaol,
other counties were similarly situated : and if this application
were granted, all the others would be coming forward in the
same manner. He moved as an amendment, " That the
House do now proceed to the ether Orders of the Day."
Mr. F. BUXTON said the Hon. Member who preceded
him had argued the question upon local terounds. Now he took
it to be—not a question between 'Thetford and Norwich—but
one which affected the interest of the whole country, and in-
volved impediment and injury to the administration of jus-
tice. This part of the question, however, he should leave in
the hands of others, and only view it as a prison disciplina-
rian ; and he hoped to be able to make an impression on the
mind of the Right Honourable Sedretary of State for the Home
i Department,, who was certainly a better and a more effective

prison-fancier than he was. In the measures which the night
lion. Gentleman brought forward last Session, the principle
was acted upon, that a gaol was only intended for the custody,
and not the punishment of a.prisoner before trial. The law ad-
mitted no right to infliet suffering Upon the body,or degradation
1341 the mind of a prisoner who had rust been tried. Here, then,
they found the untried prisoners heavily ironed, put into a public
waggon indiscriminately without classiscotion, and dragged
through the country as a public spectacle for thirty miles—all•
against the spirit and even the letter of the law. Supposing the,
prisoner to be acquitted, he might be then tifty miles from his
home, and without the means of returning until he had cons--
mitted a crime which brought him again to answer to the laws
of his country. But in the case of conviction, it was still
worse. In addition to the punishment required by the law, the
prisoner was exposed to the degradation of being made .a pub-
lic exhibition to •all the country for the 3)3 miles through which
he had to be dragged back. In convictions for murder where
the law required that execution should follow within a certain
time after passing sentence, the greater part of that time must
be occupied by the unhappy prisoner in meeting the gaze of
the public. Supposing, in the case of Mr. Fauntleroy, that.he
had been a gentleman of Norfolk instead of Middlesex, he
must have been exposed in the same manner to the intrusion
of all the public curiosity which his case excited. His Hon.
Friend near hint said, " serve him right ;" but he denied that
it would serve bins right, because no man had a right to ag-
gravate the punishment provided by the law. On these grounds
he should vote for the motion.

Mr. BARING said that if there was any thing m`-'the argu-
ments of his Honourable Friend, it applied generally to all
places where Assizes were held, and not to that of Thetford in
particular. Let the Assizes be held where they might, there
must be some prisoners to remove, and in that case it was im-
possible to preserve what was called a strict classification of
crimes. He would take the case of the next county,—the
county of Suffolk for instance; and there the prisoners were
removed twice a-year from Ipswich to Bury. No regulation
could he made which would avoid this difficulty-. If these
Assizes were held at Norwjch, there would still be prisoners
to be removed from Swaffham. In the county of Somerset,
with which he was more particularly connected, by represent-
ing one of its capitals, the Assizes were held alternately at
Taunton, ,Bridgewater, and Wells, and the county jail was at
Ilchester ; and so far were the Magistrates of that county front
finding any inconvenience arise from it, that a complaint had
never been heard of. If the Hon. Member were to alter his
motion, so as to make the inquiry general, it would be far less
objectionable, although he should still feel bound to oppose it
upon principle.
Mr. PEEL protested against the assumption of this jurisdic-
tion by the House of Commons : the House had already trans-
ferred that jurisdiction to the Chancellor and the Judges : and
he had the additional objection to it, because it had
already been referred' to the Judges, and they had decided
against the. question. With respect to the precedents, he
thought them of great importance, but he (lid not think that
they applied to tins case. If the House was to take upon it-
self, as was proposed, the right of jurisdiction in this case, he
thought that it should at least pass an Act repealing the one
that confided that trust to the Lord Chancellor and the Judges_
As to the mere local question, or whether the Assizes should
be at Thetford er at Norwich, he could not say any thing
about it ; he would not give an opinion on that head one way
or the other—but as the House of Commons had already given
away all the power that it might have once possessed, he should
feel it to be his duty to oppose the Honourable Member's mo-
tion, on the ground that-it did not come within the scope of
the House.

•
Mr. DAVIES GILBERT concurred with the Right Hon.
Secretary (Mr. Peel) in voting against the Bill.
Dr. LUSH INGTON wished to know what were the grounds
of the decision of the Judges. Thetford originally was selected
when Norfolk and Suffolk made but one county, because it was
the most convenient place for holding the Assizes; and now
when that reason by the separation of the counties -no longer
existed, he conceived that what other place was the most eli-
gible in Norfolk ought to be chosen.
Mr. HUSKISSON supported the opinion of his Right Hon.
Friend (Mr. Peel), and expressly because the law had confided
the matter to the Lord Chancellor and the Judges. The distance
of Thetford from some parts of the county, which was stated
at nearly fifty miles, did not appear to him a valid argument.
In Lancashire, those places where the greatest number of cri-
minal cases occurred, were more than fifty miles from Lancas-
ter, where the Assizes were held. If the present motion were
agreed to, there would of course be similar demands from Lan-'.
eashire, front Cornwall, and from Sussex, without reference to
the real object in view—the best administration of justice.
Mr. 11 ELIVEY was in favour of the motion.
Mr. W. SMITH said be thought if similar inconveniences
to those experienced in Norfolk were felt in many other parts
of the country, that in itself was sufficient ground to entertain
the present question. The grounds upon which the fate of the
Bill was about to be determined, were not, in his opinion, the
fair and just ones.
The House then divided, when the numbers were—
For the Bill - - 21
Against it - - • •
- -•i -
Majority ——5 l
BENEFIT SOCIETIES.
31r. P. COUR TE NA ir moved, 'That a Select Committee
be appointed to inquire into the subject of Benefit Socie-
ties, and to report the same to the house.—The motion was
agreed to.

EXPORT OF MACHINERY.
Mr. HUME moved for the re-appointment of the Select
Committee, to examine the I respecting the Prohibitions on
the Export of Machinery. Ile wished to recall to the attention
of the House, that the Committee which sat in the course of
the last year had recommended the Repeal of the Combination
Laws, and the Abolition of 'the I aws restricting Artisans from
going Abroad • and they farther recommended the appoint-
ment of the Committee for which he was now moving. In con-
sequence of the proceedings last night, he thought it proper to
remark, that he had no connection, directly or indirectly, with-
the export of machinery ; and he could assure the House, if he
did not conceive the question to be one of vast national im-
portance, he should not trouble them on the present occasion.—
This was a question which has hitherto been involved in great
obscurity ; various prejudices had existed on the subject, but
he was happy to observe that those prejudices were gradually
disappearing. From the evidenced the Custom-house Officers,
taken before the Committee, it was proved that it was most
difficult to distinguish between what was prohibited and what
is allowable to be exported ; . and, from their represen-
tation, it would appear most difficult to carry the law
into effect. From his own knowledge he could say, that
during" the last year much prohibited machinery had been
exported. In France the duty imposed upon English
machinery allowed to be exported was ,a 5 per cent., whereas
upon making oath that the article had been smuggled, there
was no difficulty in having it admitted. The pretence for pre-
venting many of those articles from being exported was, that
they required the utmost nicety in the manufacture, although
it was well known that in a great many instances they were
executed by the mere boys, who were learning their trade.—
Many of the prohibitions were perfectly useless ; such, for in-
stance, as the coining machine. In the machinery used for the
manufacture of cloth, there was no prohibition, which principally
extended to the cotton manufactories. Ile trusted that in the
Committee, such satisfactory evidence would be adduced, as
.
would satisfy the tnost scrupulous and doubtful, for however
anxious he was that the measure should pass, he was by no
means desirous to pass itin.opposition to existing prejudices,
if- they were general. He should prefer the course of
proving to the parties that they were injuring themselves and
the public at large. There appeared to him no reason what-
ever now for preventing the export of machinery, when we
permitted the free transit of artisans, who could in foreign
countries—do the same workmanship as home. Ile thought
the alteration would secure to us a main branch of tr.ale, whilst
at the same time we should be always able to resist any attempt
to meet us in a foreign market. lie should therefore move,
" That a Select Conmattea
be appointed to inquire into the
state of the law respecting the export of Machinery."
Mr. HUSKISSON said he should give his concurrence to
the motion of the Honourable Member, first, because he
thought that any laws which could not be executed ought not
to continue in force, although it might be a question, whether
such laws should be wholly abrogated, or only amended ; and,
secondly, because he quite agreell in what had been very pro-
perly stated by the Hon. Member, namely, that it would be
improper to press any
legis
the sense and feelings of those'lative measure, in opposition to
whose interests were about to
be affected. At the same time he was bound to state, that those
parties greatly overstated the consequences which, in his judg-
ment, were likely to ensue. Ile had taken upon himself to
exercise a discretion which, although perhaps not strictly legal,
Hydraulic Presses
he hoped the House would not consider the criminal, in al-
lowing the export of some articles. of machinery, such as the
Which all mankind agreed. lie felt •no difficulty in granting
sent, so great is the demand for machinery, licenses for their exportati and, in so doing, lies hought he
consulted
the interests of coon
hear )—At pre-
, and others, against the prohibition of
in many branches,
that, withall the hands that can be procured, the orders can-
not be executed for eighteen months to come, and there are
pended from the sam cause. on these grounds he thought
many establishments
e , whose o
Uperations are completely sus-
the re-appointment of the Committee would be a great advan-
tage; and he requested the Honourable Member opposite (Mr.
Hume) who would naturall take a leading part in the proceed-
ings of that Connnittee, to turn his earnest attention to all those

points in which parties felt that that their interests Would bt:

principally afFecied.
After a few words from Alderman BRIDGES, the motion
was agreed to.
BANISHMENT of BRITISH SUBJECTS from INDIA.
Mr. HUJIE rose to submit the motion of which he had given
notice on this subjects. The practice to which he should advert

was one which, though it could not be said to obstruct our
trade with India, was calculated to limit in a great degree the
advantages which we might derive from our possession of that
country. It was well known that the India Company, by itself
or its governors and presidents, had the power of banishing any
persons who interfered with the trade of that country. This
power continued until the 53 George 111., by which the trade
was in a great measure thrown open to all British subjects
trading from England. The preamble of that Act set forth the
advantages which might be derived from an opening of the
India trade (with the exception of that"to China and the tea-
trade) to the enterprise of British capital and industry.., If he
understood this act rightly, it was intended to give a vent to
the capital of Great Britain ; but the practice which had
since grown up, was, he thought, quite in oppositibn to the
spirit of that Act. It was understood that all those who Went
to India were to be subject to the regulations of the Company,
but those regulations ought not to be against the spirit of the
law. That law declares in substan'e that no man was to be

removed by the Mere freak or whim of any Governor or Presi-
dent in India, and that such removal should
.only he ordered
in cases where the presence of the particular individual was
considered as likely to disturb the tranquillity of any part of
that country. He would in a short time move for an account
of the number of persons to whom permission to remain in the
country had been refused ; but at present he would confine
himself to a complaint against the power which the Company
exercised under this law. Ile knew that nearly half of those at
present trading and residing in India had not a regular licence
to remain. They had been permitted to remain and to trade,
but it mattered not, in his (3lr. flume's) opinion, whether a.
man had a licence to remain or not, he ought, if he was settled

there, to be allowed to remain ; and it was an act of injustice,
and against the spirit of the Act, tet send 'him away. Many
persons who had been settled in India, who had a prosperous
trade there, had their prospects entirely ruined by being sent
out of the country. This was the case in many instances under
the government of Mr. Adam and the present Governor, Lord
Amherst. They had sent several individuals from the country,
without trial or cause assigned. Many of those persons had
been long settled in the country ; and he would contend that
their banishment was an act of great cruelty and injustice. He
knew it was said that the exercise of such a power was justified
by the Act of Parliament. It' it were, he maintained that
such an act was against justice and that policy which ought
to be pursued in our colonies. It was not necessary for his
purpose to detail acts of this kind, which had originated in
personal feelings and motives; but, leaving such cases out of
consideration, lie would assert that the effect of the general
practice was, that no person in any of the Presidencies durst
express his opinions, if those opinions should be hostile to
the Government. Some Governors were, he knew, more
liberal in this respect than others. Lord Hastings, for in-
stance, did not think it beneath him to submit his conduct to
the opinions of the European population in India; and though
the proceedings of the Noble Lord in this instance was not
quite pleasing to the Government at home, yet it showed his
liberal feeling on the subject. The conduct of Governor Adam
and of Lord Amherst in this respect was quite different. They
et press,that aan
general had e
gloomnact enacted
had sent away from. India certain individuals for the expression
ral,
elnl o
iTingtetln.lat country; and the fear of
su'ittracsohl:riale:sitot rniac
overttiio' irtieislueognphut tbhi ei
nrmeesidls:
c
deportation was so prevalent, that no man dared to express his
real sentiments upon what was passing in the country. The
consequence was, that the people of this country were, generally
sepeaking, as ignorant of what was passing in India, as of
What was done in Japan. A war was now raging in India,
and yet the English public knew scarcely any thing about
it. The effects of this system of restriction on the press
were seen in the deportation of Mr. Buckingham from.lndia,
and in the atrocious conduct pursued towards Mr. Arnot._
After such conduct, the persons at present connected with
the press in India could only pursue one course : if they wished
to remain in India, they must remain silent on all subjects the
discussion of which might be displeasing to the Govern-.
ment there. Ile (Mr. Bums) had in his possession two notes
ttintay
sent to individuals connected with the press of India, cautioning
them against any notice of the casiof Mr. Buckingham, or of
the condut of the Government in general .Such a systeM was,
he contended, contrary to the spirit of the regulation establiihed
when the courts of Calcutta were formed in 1775. It was
the
r setatrecent n
ocausgeisa,
tleia under
protection the
then declared, that every person resident in India should
b
no:td eetbioenen wholly
of nr
British
ial
withdrawnlrw*
itihung b
impossible lrea
thatd.
by the local authorities. It had been lately the fashion to
i i
say, that
o f the2so,
00
o Britishmpossessionsinthatoi
e
en
in India
d a
was In
o y a thread.
This he denied. He thought that while we maintained an
we should lose our possessions there. But the best way to
ensure the permanence of our power there, would be to allow the
public discussion and exposure of delinquencies through the
medium of the press. if that were prevented,. 11e was
certain that 'mischiefs of the most serious nature would
ensue. It was, he would repeat, the most impolitic w
course
which could be pursued to prevent Englishmen from emebarrake
ing establishing their capital in that country. and of there a
regular system of colonization. lle knew Cat that word would
`.startle the prejudices of many persons connected with East In-
I dial affairs, but still it was a system which in the result would
be found most advantageous to our interests in that country.
The Hon. Member, after stating that there could be no (la-
-1 culty ill procuring the returns for which he was anxious, as re•
gular lists of all persons sent borne from India were kept at the
India-house, concluded by moving for " A Return, showing
the number of British-born and other European subjects r
re-
moved front any of our Presidencies in India by order of the
• local Governments, or by direction of the Company here, stat.
mg the cause of such removal, 'and whether it had been at-
tended whit personal arrest or imprisonment ; and if so, for
what period, and where, and whether such arrest had been fol-
lowed by any judicial proceeding; the return to include the
names of all persons so banished from the year 1784 up to the
present year."
Mr. C. W. WYNN said, that in the few observations which
he had to offer to the House on this subject, he would not
enter into the general question of colonization in India. That
he would reserve fin a more fit occasion. He contended,
That by the Act of 1783, any man resident in India without
a licence was guilty of a high misdemeanor, for which he
was punishable by fine and imprisonment; and that the Act
of 1814, which made no difference as to the amount of the
offence, only gave the authorities leave to send him out of India
without subjecting him to a public trial. The Honourable
Member for Aberdeen had made several observations in his
speech relative to the manner in which the permission to re-
main in India was granted by the Governor-General in India.
In answer to them, he would, merely observe, that the Act
provided, that if the GoVernor-General found any individual
resident in India without a licence, and granted him permission
to remain there, he should state in his dispatches to the Court
of Directors his reason for granting such per Mission. This was
the most easy and natural mode of proceeding, for every Gen.
tleman would see that it would be very hard indeed upon the
Governor-General to call upon hint to state his reasons for send-
ing an individual away. The Hon. Member had also said that
no person could go to India without the special leave of the
Court of Directors, thereby insinuating that it was matter of
some difficulty to obtain it. He held in his hand a list of the
applications which had been made for such leave since 1814,
which would enable the House to come to some determi-
nate conclusion about it. The number of applications in
that time was 963 of these 743 had met with a successful
issue from the Court of Directors, and 41 with the same from
the Board of Controul ; so that in the whole period there had
than 179 refusals. The HonourableMember
had been more
had found fault with the act, because it provided that a man
without a licence might be removed by the Governor-General's
power al ne• Now, he could inform the Honourable Member
that no man could be removed by the poiver of the Governor-
General alone, but only by the Governor-General in Council.
Therefore, every Member of the Council had a right to state
his opinion With regard to the propriety of removal, and thus
there was same controul upon that arbitrary exercise of power
against which the • Hon. Member had declaimed so warmly.
After some further observations, delivered in a tone of voice
which rendered them inaudible in the gallery, the Right Ilon.
Gent. said, that he was ready to give in substance to the Hon.
Member for Aberdeen, all the information for which he asked,
though he could not consent to his (Mr. H.'s) vague and exten-
sive motion. He would therefore move, as an amendment, that
" there be laid on the Table a return of all persons removed from,
or ordered to quit India, by any Governor-General or other au.
thority, from the year 1784 to the present time, on the ground
of their being found in India without a licence from the Court
of Directors or other legal authority in England, together with
a return of all persons whose licence or permission to remain in
India had been revoked by the Governor-General or other au-
thority, stating the special ground of such revocation, distin-
guishing the persons who had licences from those who had re.;
ceived permission to remain, stating whether such removal had
been preceded by any personal arrest or imprisonment, for
what time,. and at what place in India, or preceded or followed
by any judicial proceedings in India or elsewhere.
Mr. HUME submitted to the amendment, though he said
that it would by no means fully answer his object.
• The question, as amended, was then put, and carried with-
out a division.
HILL TO PREVENT BEAR-BAITING.
Mr. R. MARTIN, in moving for leave to bring in his Bill
against bear-baiting and other cruel practices, stated, that lie

hail consulted those persona who, from official situation an&
general information, were most likely to be able to form a just
conclusion on the-nature and tendency of those sports ; and he
could inform the House, that it was the opinion of every Magi-
strate of London and Westminster,whose opinion he had taken,
that nothing contributed more to the commission of crime than
an indulgence in such cruel practices : they were the schools in
which thieves and murderers were educated. It had been cus-
tomary to evade the interference of the police, in such cases, by
declining to take money at the doors. This was not always the
case ; at least, he had a Bill in his pocket of one of these amuse-
ments, the admission to which was 3s. 6d. It was an exhibition
of badger-baiting, and for training young dogs before being sent
out on their travels..---(Laughter.)—lt had been objected to a
former measure of his, that it was only his intention to put a
stop to the sports of the poor, and that he avoided attacking
the amusements of the Nobility. • He understood that the exhi-
bition to which he last alluded was supported by several-of the
higher classes ; he was-sorry to hear it, but was determined, with
the assistance of the House, to act impartially, and put it down.
He hoped on that ground to receive the support of the Member
for Winchelsea. He thought the Learned Gentleman stood
pledged to support him in his present attempt, which struck at
the rich as well as the poor. The House could not be aware
of the cruelties which were practised upon the • animals,
and he was sorry to say not .unfrequently, by men who
had a character for learning and science. He could not avoid
mentioning one instance of this kind—it was the case of a per-
son whom he would call a disgrace to science, an individual of
the name of Majendie, who had made one of the most atro-
cious exhibitions at Coned our anatomical theatres that could
be conceived. This person procured a greyhound, and made
fast his four paws to a table with iron spikes ; the ears of the
tortured animal were also nailed down in like manner ; the ope-
rator then proceeded to cut out and demonstrate the nerves con-
nected with sight, taste, and hearing, on one side of the jaw
he applied his scalpel to the nerveless socket of the eye, and
performed various other cruel experiments. When the opera.'
don was concluded on the• dog, which still survived these;
cruelties, he handed him over to an attendant, and informed'
the spectators that if the assistant took proper care of the
animal during the night, there was no doubt he would be'
alive
.in
.the morning, and in that case they. would have
another opportunity f seeing a similar operation performed
on the nerves connected with the other side of the jaw.—
However, said this humane gentleman, should the attendant
be inattentive, there is little doubt but theoanimal will pos-
sess sufficient vitality to enable me to demonstrate the perestaltie
motion of his stomach for your
.further gratification. He trusted
there could be "Ina one feeling of detestation -at such barba-
rities. He had consulted the most eminent professional men,
among others Dr. Abernethy and Sir E. Home—he had taken
the opinion of many learned and scientific characters in Oxford
and Cambridge, and they all united in condemning and depre-
' eating such cruel practices. The experiment had taken place
in this metropolis, and he believed it was the intention of the
operator to return, but if lie did, he (Mr. Martin) trusted it
would not be to receive patronage and encouragement, but the
Contrary. The Honourable Gentleman concluded by moving for
leave to bring in a Bill to prevent bear beating and other cruel
sports.

Sir M. W. RIDLEY opposed the introduction of the Bill, on
the ground of the subject not being of sufficient importance to'
callforan enactment from the House.

Mr. MARTIN replied.
Mr. F. BUXTON supported the Bill.
Bk. Alderman BRIDGES approved of the principle of the

Dlr. BUTTERWORTH deprecated the practice of prize-
fighting; the Bill should have his support.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the llousa then di-
vided, when there appeared—
Tor the Bill - -
Against it -
• Majority

-12

Leave was according giiren to.bring in the Bill.
UNLAWFUL SOCIETIES (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion of Mr. Gov Lnurtw, the further considera—
tion of the Report of the Committee on this Bill was gone into.
Some verbal amendments were agreed to, and the 'further con-
consideration of the Report ordered to-morrow.

SUPPLY—NAVY.
The House took into its further consideration the Report of
the Committee of the Supply on the Navy Estimates. On the
motion for agreeing to that part of the Report, which recom-
mends the grant of 54,886/. for the salaries of the Admiralty,

Sir J. YORKE did not wish his Hon. Friends to make any
statements which they may think prejudicial to them, but
he should like to ask them, why the salary of the Private'
Secretary to the First Lord of the Treasury had been increased.
from 3001. to 5001. per annum. He saw no reason for . •
when it had been found prudent to reduce the number of Lords
of the Admiralty. He was surprised, that in this great ana
powerful country, he could only find a reduction, on all. the
Boards, of three thousand five hundred pounds—( Hear
particularly from the Secretary and Lords of the Admiralty
Would his Hon. Friends say that one -Commissioner of tile
Victualling Board, of the Navy Board, or one Lord of the
Treasury had been reduced ? No ; the whole reduction WO
one Post Master and two Lords of the Admiralty. He thought
if the Honourable Baronet who had brought. forward the mo-
tion for the reduction of the Lords of the Admiralty were to re-
consider the matter, he would be disposed to vote for, their
being re-appointed. He wished to see an additional 20001,
added to this part of the estimates, to restore the two Lords,-
as without that they were not fairly dealt by.
On the motion for agreeing to that part of the Report which
recommends granting the sum of 538,5061. for the Dock-
yards, &c.—
Mr. HUME complained of going on, year after year, ex-
pending millions of' money to build ships, only to lie and rot.
It was not proper for the House to pass such estimates, year
after year.; For the year, 1823, 1824, and 1825, the amount
had been the same as 1817. The expence of building in the
Dock-yards, &c. ought to be checked. Since 1811, we ha
expended on the dock-yards a sum of 4,853,0001. ; and for
works connected with them a sum of 1,587,000/. ; making lv
total of 5,400,0001. expended 'on nothing but brick and mortar-
One year there was an estimate for 600,0001. another year for
500,0001., and then the year after for 800,000/. It appeared that
no system was followed, and was followed, and that some esti-
mate or plan should be followed, and the money not expended
some Lord of the Admiralty took a fancy to. build. Since 1823,
15,0001, had been expended on building and repairing ships
that were only kept to rot. It would be better to give pensions
to every workman in the dock-yards, if it were the object to
employ them, than thus to waste money on ship building.
Sir GEORGE COCKBIJRN (lid not believe the Non`
Member could be correct in his statement. Peace was the,.
time for putting our dock-yards in a good state ; (luring war O•
was impossible to do it.
Mr. HUME replied, his statements were drawn from papers
on the table of the" House.
On that part of the Report. relative to granting for the Naval
College,' at Portsmouth, the sum of 6,2521.,
Sir JOSEPH YORKE inquired if it were intended to keep
that College up to its full extent, as he understood thq
one of the pupils, Sir. Bonnycastle, had left this country and
gone to America? He approved of science being taught, but
charity, he thought, began at home, and we ought not to yaY
for the education of young men who were to carry their scien-
tific acquirements to another State.
Mr. CHOKER replied, that every student of the College was
obliged to give a bond of 500/. that they would remain in the
King's service. He did not see what other security could be
taken from them ; and if Mr. Bonnycastle chose to forfeit his
bond, he did not know how that was to be prevented.
Sir GEORGE COCKBURN stated the number of student.
had been diminished.
Some further conversation then ensued between Mr. Croker,
Sir Joseph Yorke, Mr. Home, Sir George Clerk, and Mr.
Gordon, on the subject of their being a limited time after which
prize money could not be recovered. Mr. Hume complainP
of this, and Mr. Croker contended it was not possible the pub'
lie accounts could be kept open for ever.
After some further conversation, the other Resolutions Were_
agreed to.
:rhe Annual Indemnity Bill, after a few words from I%lr.
HUME, who suggested that it should be perpetual, and &on!
the Chancellor of the Exchequer and Mr. Croker, who oppose('
this suggestion, went through a Committee; as did also the F•x-
chequer Bills Bill, and the Transfer of Aids Bill; and the Re-
ports were ordered to be received this day.
The House adjourned at HALF. PAST TWELVE O'CLOCIC.

A late Berlin Paper states that a most outs"
genus attempt to rob and murder (a very unusual thing) wiis
made in that city on the 28th ult. About 10 o'clock in the
evening of the day mentioned, three villains made a violent
and murderous attack on an individual, a merchant, from
Saxony, who was walking along the Ross-Strasse (Horse:
street). Luckily, however, the individual in question 10
presence of mind enough effectually to conceal about his person
a pocket of Treasury notes, which, it is surmised; these 11°-
creams had somehow got intelligence that he was the bearer of.
—All the money they got was 18 groschen, and being alarmed
by the approach of footsteps, while rifling the pockets of the
merchant, they fled precipitately. Although very dangerously'.
wounded, hopes are entertained that the unfortunate man 11381 i.
survive ; and, what is very satisfactory to state, the officers Of.
police having got a clue to the robbers, there is every reason.
to expect that they will ere long be in the hands of justice, '

PARLIAMENTAIIY PIZOCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Jovis,- 24° the Februarii, 1825.

itattwAYs—Tees and Weardale—Bill read a first time.
Liverpool
.and Manchester—Petitions from Waterford and
Dublin,, in favour—to lie on the table. East London—Pe-
titions of Trustees of Commercial Road, &c. against—re-
ferred to the Select Committee on Standing Orders.
CouPAITIES-,-Edinburgh and Leith—Water Report on Petition
for additional provision referred to the Select Committee on
Standing Orders. Metropolitan Water—Bill read a first time.
CHAPE —Hastings—Petition of 11ev. W. Whistler, against,
referred to the Committee on the Bill.
Roans—Leicester and Lutterworth, Melton Mowbray, Wel-
ford Bridge and Leicester, Leominster and 1-lope, ilratncote
Oddhouse, LockwoOd anti Meltham, Leeds and Whitehall,
and Grantham and- Trent Bridge—Bills read a first time.
Crewkerne, Meltham and Wessenden Head, Halifax and
Sheffield, Old Stratford and Long Compton, and Barton
Bridge and Worsley—Bills ordered.
prCLostritE—Orsett (Essex)
01PaovEmENTs—Margate Bills read a first time.
11%41!ocirs_Rotherhithe )
AV IGATipx—Clyde
Bills ordered.
POOn RATES—Croydon

STANDING ORDERS COMMlTTEE—Resolutions reported :
" 1. That in the case of the Briminghani and Shenstone
'toad Petition, the Standing Orders ought NOT to be dispensed
With.

" 2- That, in the case of the Chester Waterworks Petition,
the Standing Orders ought NOT to be dispensed wtth.
" 3. That, in the case of the Hanley and Shelton Improve-
ment Petition, the Standing Orders ought NOT to be dispensed
t`
sta 4. That, in the case of the Saint Ives Pier Petition, the
!'ding Orders ought NOT to he dispensed with.
" That, in the case of the Exeter and Dawlish Roads
Petition, the parties be permitted to proceed with their Bill,
and-that leave be granted that a plan and Book of Reference be
deposited with the Clerk of the Peace for the County of Devon
®n or before Monday the 7th March next ; and that the Com-
ntittee on the Bill do examine, in the first place, how far the
Said Order shall have been complied with, and do report the
same to the House on the Report of the Bill.
" 6. That, in the case of the Old Stratford and Long Comp-
ton Road Petition, the parties be permitted to proceed with
their Bill, and that leave be granted that Notices may be in-
serted three times in some one newspaper in the several Counties
of Oxford, Warwick, Worcester, and Gloucester, in the pre-
sent month of February, and in the month of March next, and
also affixed to the doors of the Sessions Houses, at the next
General Quarter Sessions of the Peace for the said several
Counties • and that the Committee on the Bill do examine, in
the first P'lace, how far the said Orders shall have been com-
plied with, and do report the same to the House on the Report
of the Bill.
, " 7. That, in the case of the Chesterfield Waterworks Pe-
tition, the parties be permitted to proceed with their Bill."
Four first Resolutions postponed—three last Resolutions read
4 second time, and agreed to.
FalExtitv SociuTfus,—Select Committee appointed, " to
Consider of the Laws respecting Friendly Societies, and to
"Port the same, with their observations and opinions there-
to the I ouse :—Mr. T. Courtenay, Mr. S. Bourne,
'it T. Baring, Mr. Fleming, Mr. Estcourt, Mr. B. Cooper,
lr, Etcher, Mr. F. Palmer, Sir Thos. Acland, Sir Edward
I(notchbull, Admiral Sotheron, Mr. Tremayne, Mr. Bootle
Wilbraham, Mr. Dickinson, l
r. Jervoise, Mr. Monck, Mr.
GiPPs, Mr. Barrett, Mr. Kennedy, Sir George Clerk, Mr.
(:artwright, Mr. Wodehouse.—Power to send for persons,
Papers, anti records,—five to be the quorum. Report of last
Session relative to Artizans and Machinery—Petition of R.
Soutar (presented Bth Feb.)—Report (July 4, 1817) from the
Select Committee on the Poor Laws, referred.
L'IPOTur OF MacnlNEttY,—Select Committee appointed, " to
enquire into the state of the Law and its consequences, re-
,'Pecting the Exportation of Tools and Machinery : Mr.
',fume, Mr. Huskisson, Mr. C. Grant, Mr. S. Bourne, Mr.
Attorney-General, Mr. Grey Bennet, Mr. G. Dawson, Mr.
P• Gilbert, Mr. Bernal, Mr. F. Lewis, Sir Henry Parnell,
-51 r. G. Philips, Mr. P. Moore, Mr. Littleton, Mr. Stuart
'Wortley, Mr. Birch, Mr. Pares, Mr. Thomas Wilson, Mr.
tx,gerton Sir T. Acland, Mr. Hobhouse, Sir John Newport,
W. Whitmore, Mr. Lawley, Mr. Astell, Mr. Arbuth-
not, Mr. A. Baring, Sir G. Clerk, Mr. Gladstone, Mr. P.
thenfell, Mr. Ross, Mr. Disbrowe, Lord Milton, Mr. Sykes,
tir• Kennedy, Mr. Mansfield, Mr. S. Rice, Mr. Grattan,
rur' (I. R. Philips, Earl of Brecknock, MrJosh. Walker,
Lascelles, Mr. W. Maxwell, Mr. H. Gurney, Mr.
lilt (of Dublin.)—Power to send for persons, papers, and
records,—five to be the quorum.
'Coil'. DUTlES—Petitions against, from Bridport, Dean Fn.
lest Collieries, Aylesford, Woodbridge, Kirby Cane, El-
.tingham, Stockton, Hadleigh, Penzance, Stratton, Great
farmouth, and Pyworthy—to lie on the table.
'l▪ sltssEo TaxEs—Petition from Poole, for the repeal thereof
• to lie on the table.
tkusE alto Wmoow Tax—Petitions for the repeal thereof,
from Canterbury, Southwark, Deptford, Bridgewater, Croy.
don, and. Warminster—to lie on the table.
oTAMP DUTlES—Petitionsfrom Edinburgh, for the repeal of
the Duties on Insurances; and from Whitby, for repeal of
tke Duties on Receipts—to lie on the table.
t;°lnvry Cot aTs BlLL—Several Petitions, in favour—to lie
on the table.
__,
011ACCO DUTlES—Petition from Importers, &c. in London,
against, to lie on the table.

ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR THIS DAY.
21. Game Laws Bill—Second reading.
Weights and Measures Bill—Committee.
Supply—Committee.
4. Ways and Means--Committee.
5. Unlawful Societies(lreland) Bill—Third reading.
42. Annual Indemnity Bill—Report.
d• Exchequer Bills (.£20,000,000) Bill—Report.
4. Transfer of Aids Bill—Report.

I Lord NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THIS DAY.
Viscount Palmerston—Army Estimates. (In Com-
mittee of Supply.)
Y' Mr. Bankes—Uritisit Museum Estimates. (In Committee•of
Suppl.)
111 r. Heryries—To vote a sum, on account, for Civil Contin-
gencies. (In Committee of Supply.)
NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY.

Monday, Fcb. 28.
1. Air. Goulburn—Bill to facilitate proceedings of the Con-i-
-q miissioners. of Judicial Inquiry in Ireland.
• Mr. Goulburn—Bill to amend Act of last Session, relative
to Treasurers of Cities and Towns in Ireland.
Wednesday, ilfarch 2.
Sir Geo. for the regulation of Co-partnerships of
certain Bankers in Ireland.
Thursday, March 3.
I. Ur. Hume- ---Motion regarding the disallowance of the votes
of Members on Questions in which they are personally
.in-
terested.
4' Ur. Berries—Bill to provide for the application of monies
arising in certain cases of assessments for Land Tar. De-
terred from Feb. 24.
PRIVATE BILLS.

Second Readins. for this Day.
h %tough bridge and Catbericl, and Kingston and Leather-
ead Roads • Calder and Hebble Navigation ; and Kingston
bridge

UUNGERFOItD M A lIKET.—Among the numerous
ttrileasures for the employment of British capital, which have
teen brought before Parliament within the last few days, we
:,`ncrsv of no single project, fraught with so much apparent
benefit to the population of this great metropolis, as the pro-
Ph .
sPd re-establishment of Ilungerford Market ; to effect
leh, a petition was presented 'to the House of Commons,.
2r. a legislative - enactment, on Friday last. The scite of
`..Lna Market has for ages enjoyed the privileges appurtenan,t. to
!!,Inarket upon a large scale, under charters granted by
Charles H. and his immediate successor; and it is extraordi-
nary that, whilst the population of the west end of the town has
been rapidly increasing, and two markets in this district have
been abolished, to make way for improvements of another
nature, Hungerford 111arket has been suffered to remain in a
tate of dilapidation and decay.—We understand that it is now
intended to rebuild the market upon a magnificent scale, ras
and r afford accommodation for the sale of every article, of fair
open conipetion, among the necessaries of life ; the effect
of Which, more especially in the article of fish, cannot fail to
be Most beneficial to every class of the community.—We have
feen the prospectus, and it appears that the property, which is
reehold, is every way adapted to the purpose for which it is
intended—combining interior convenience with the peculiar
advances of water carriage to the spot. The amount of the
Purchase money, and the expence of the whole pile of building
complete for the use of the public, together will not exceed, it
us said, 250,0001.; and it is calculated that the profit will afford
_nril.ample return for the investment; thereby combining indi-
qual advantages to the subscribers with one of the greatest
benefits that can accrue to the inhabitants of the western part
of the metropolis.—(Morning Chronicle.)

The Paris Papers of Tuesday are filled with
the discussions in the Chamber of Deputies on
the Law of Indemnity. General FoY opened the
debate on Monday with an extemporaneous and
forcible speech against the project, which he
strongly condemned in every point of view. Ilis
addreis was heard with great interest, and
produced a powerful impression on the Chamber.
This project, said the General, is intended to
put money into the pockets of the emigrants, and
if their rights are sacred, are not likewise the
rights of others ? If landed property is to be pro-
tected, is not other property to be protected also ?
The orator contended that the conduct of the
emigrants in leaving their country from fear, and
inciting foreign powers to invade the French
territory, has disentitled them from remuneration.
The value of the property confiscated was not
more, he remarked, to the nation than 200,000;000
francs (about 8,000,0001.), and the indemnity
demanded was a thousand millions, or about 40
millions sterling. This great sum was to be dis-
tributed among thirty thousand families, to
enrich them at the public expense ; and
during the time of its payment, which would
last for five years, France would be as crippled
as if it was invaded for the third time. M.
de VILLELE answered this speech with con-
siderable ingenuity. The measure, he maintained
was indispensable to complete the restoration,
and re-unite all classes of French. The next
speaker, M. DuenEssls GRENEDAN, contended
that justice demanded the restitution of the
estates confiscated from the emigrants. The
Deputy admitted that the charter had indeed
declared, that " all property is inviolable, but
not that it shall be inviolable." M. D►tt'oNT nE
L'EuttE amused the Chamber, by quoting some
parts of an address against the emigrants by M.
de VAUBLANC, wx►o is one of the official sup-
porters of the present project for their indem-
nity. M. de VAIBLANC endeavoured to defend
his consistency with no effect, admitting that
he was under the impulse of fear, as the Jaco-
bins were heard to exclaim—" II nous
_Plat la
tete de kaublanc, sans quoi tout est perdu."
These Papers do not bring any intelligence
from Spain. A report had been current that
King FERDINAND VII. was dead, but it was
discredited.

Dutch Papers to the 24th instant, are chiefly
filled with further particulars of the inundations
and details of the liberal subscriptions from all
quarters for the relief of the sufferers, Her Ma-

jest), ih QU'C Of the NLTIII..INns has sub
sci:ihed
.1,000, florins, and the Prince and Piin-
cpss of Orange
.32,000.

A arsTE.BDA3I, FEB. 22.—Exchangz on London, 3.7.
months, n. J.

The Journal de Franybrt of the 18th instant
states, that on occasion of the death of his Serene
Highness Fitt:DlA:lcl; IV, Duke of Saxe.Gotha,
the following Proclamation was published at

eillengen :

We, BERNARD ERICA FREUND, &c. lll2tke known by

these presents—
It is solely to conform to circumstances, and to prevent the
consequences of partial occupations, and to avoid whatever
might trouble the actual tranquillity of the States of the Ger-
man Confederation, that we have regulated, by the Letters Pa-
tent tbr taking possession issued to-day, that the Duchy of
Gotha and Altenburg should continue to be governed by the
Authorities now existing under our Sovereignty and that of the
other two collateral Sovereigns of the line of Saxe-Gotha, with-
on any change in the form of Government.
But we declare at the same time-Ist, That this administra-

tion is not to be regarded as a legal and permanent state, but
merely as a regulation ad interim, inevitably resulting from
the above-mentioned reasons. 2d, That this interim must by
no means prejudice our exclusive rights to the succession. sd,
That during the intl in we shall not levy any part whatever
of the revenues of the Duchy of Saxe Gotha Altenburg. which
shall be expended only in that State, and applied to its Govern-
ment. 4th, That we expect the same conduct from the Dukes
of Saxe II ildburghausen and Saxe Coburg Saalfeld, and •that
we protest in the most solemn manner against opposite mea-
sures, and against every thing► that should imply a partition of
the Duchy, and might be agreed to on that supposition.

BERNARD ERICH FREUND.
Meinengen at Elisabethenburg, Feb. 11, 1825.

The Piedmontese Gazctte of the 15th instant
contains a circular from the Neapolitan Minister
of Ecclesiastical Affairs, enjoining the Bishops
who have long resided in Naples to return im-
mediately to their respective Sees, and to report
their arrival at their Episcopal Palaces by the

end of next month.
There is another circular, respecting the treat-
ment of Military Conscripts, which, on account
of the sentiments it contains, we give at length :
NAPLES, FEB. 3.
The Minister of the Interior has addressed a circular letter
to the Intendants of the Province, to the following effect :
Site—His Majesty has learned with great regret, that those
who are called out by lot to serve under his royal banners,
though they voluntarily present themselves in obedience to the
call, are conveyed to the depOts bound like malefactors.—
His Majesty considers that such treatment is not only impro-
per in the case of persons who have spontaneously present-
ed themselves, but is also ill-suited to those who are to follow
the honourable career of arms, since .it in a manner degrades,
at the very outset, him who is destined to so noble a profession.
His Majesty, therefore, orders, that in future none but re-
fractory recruits shall be bound ; and it is further determined,
that the penalty of two years additional service for such shall
be increased to double the usual time of service.
(Signed) Marquis ANATI.
Naples, Feb. 2, 1825.

It is somewhat strange that in the Debates in
the House of Commons, respecting the expe-
diency of preventing INlemburs from voting on
questions on which they were directly or indi-
rectly interested, no allusion was made to the
Bill brought in many years ago by Sir PHILIP
J ENNINGS CLERK, for the exclusion of Con-
tractors. That Bill was founded upon a prin-
ciple which ought to he rigidly maintained for
the honour of Parliament and the support of na-
tional justice.
The Laws respecting Sacrilege, recently passed
in France, are calculated to lower that country
in the estimation of mankind more than any act
of its present Government, and absolutely tend
to bring the Roman Catholic Religion into ridi-
cule, contempt, and horror. What a contrast
does it form with the Atheism which prevailed
during the French Revolution, when death was
declared to he " an eternal sleep," and even
such a wretch as ROBESPIERRE found it necessary
to condescend to pronounce the existence of a
Gon

The Emigrants who fled during the French
Revolution have been censured for cowardice in
deserting their Sovereign in the hour of danger,
but what could be expected from ruthless dema-
gogues by Nobles and private individuals, when
that meek and virtuous Sovereign himself fell at
last a victim to revolutionary vengeance
The plan which has been adopted of dispos-
ing by an annual sale of the articles manufac-
tured by female prisoners in Newgate and other
gaols is a very benevolent measure, as it not
only provides the means of comfort to them,
but at the same time trains them into habits
of industry, which may enable them to procure
an honest livelihood when they are released from
confinement. But, considering the number of
females who occupy the -various gaols of the me-
tropolis, might not the sales be more frequent, as
they would then be.a greater stimulus to indus-
try, more immediately tend to administer com-
fort to them, and strengthen their propensity to
support themselves by honest industry, after
they are released from legal infliction.
Mr. Secretary CANNING has been confined for
some days, owing to a sore throat and cold : the
Right Hon. Gentleman is attended by Dr. Hot.-
LAND. We are happy to add, that the state of
his health was yesterday much improved.

Mr. O'CoNNtr.r2s appearance below the Bar
of the Ilouse of Lords last evening, excited a
good deal of attention amongst their Lordships.
In the course of the evening Lord LIVERPOOL
went round to the Dulce of LEINsTER, apparently
fo
of having Mr. O'CoNNELL pointed
outr the
to him.irosphelts Grace took a very conspicu-
ous mode of acceding to the request, which
caused no trifling sensation, for shortly after he
.calked dowbny tot
he
theliad i,n and shook the Learned Bar,
the most cordial and
Gentleman
affectionate manner.—(:Morning ChroChronicle.).ar