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MERCANTILE SHIPPING, &g.

DEAL, MAY 7.—Wind N.E.—Came down from the River
last night and sailed the Hero, Grayson ; Sovereign, Willis ;
and Ceres, Dunn, for Quebec ; Ann, Adams, Bermuda ;
Narcissus, Calder, Oporto; Enterprise, Shatton, do. ; Thom*
Winsper, Cape of Good Hope • Thistle, Sangster, Cadiz;
Albion, Gentil, Algiers ; and Elizabeth, Long:y(lga Malta.
Arrived the Marice, Gleenslade, and Kitty, TWiller,
Michaels.

. .
PORTSMOUTH, MAY 7.—Wind N.N.E.—Arrived his Ma,- .
jesty's ship Pigmy from a cruize ; Matilda and Susan, Powtr, .• •
Leghorn. Sailed the Larkins, Wilkinson, Madras and' Bengal ; •
and Thomas and Mary transport.
PLYMOUTH, MAY 6.—Wind S.W.—Arrived the Harmall,
Briggs, from Liverpool to Petersburgh.
FALMOUTH, MAY 6.—Wind from E. to S.—Sailed the
Sandwich packet Francis, for Jamaica.
The Amphitrite, Smith, from Christiansand, was run foul. ,
of and sunk the 20th ult. by the Harrison and Tomb, which •''
vessel put into Ma port the 4th inst. with loss of bowsprit',
foremast sprung, and other damage.

A lug sail boat, called the Bee, of Folkestone, has been
carried into Portsmouth, having been seized at Guernsey by
an officer belonging to the Starling cutter.

An attempt was made on Thursday last, at '
Highfields Works, near Bilston, to duck the, mei►.
who had returned to their work ; but the rioters
were disappointed by the arrival of a party of
yeomanry from Wolverhampton, who immediatel y
dispersed the assembled 'thousands, and secured
several of the ringleaders. A man who threw
stone and wounded the Magistrate last week
when reading the Riot Act near Bilston, was
shot through the body by one of the constables
in attenaance, and has since died. Some of the,— .
deluded men have lately been employed in cast-
ing bullets. We have been inforMed that la,
iron-masters are ruined by a bad trade, and more
failures are expected. Six of the rioters have
been committed to gaol.

CORN EXCHANGE, MAY 8.
We have had but few fresh Arrivals in since Monday, but
our supply fully answers the demand, and the trade flat gene-
rally, the. market remaining. as on Monday for every thing, Int
so little doing that the prices are nominally as on Monday.
Nothing but the best Azle Wheats met any sale to-day

'l'.llE' LONDON JOURNALS.

Ty'f.7:3l.A.CT9 FROM THE DAILY MORNING PAPERS,
May 8, 1829..

[MORNING POST]
•
The House of Commons having last night re-
solved itself into a Committee, the Marquis of Lon-
donderry went into a luminous and detailed expo-
, sitiOn, both of the principle upon which the contem-
plated alteration in the Corn. Law was projected,
and also of the views by which his scale of duties
was regulated. The object of the alteration ap-
pv4rs to us highly salutary. It is not intended
by any means .to change essentially the existing
Act for the protection of Agriculture ; but merely
to modify its operative poW6r in such a manner,
a.,5,--first, to avoid the sudden and great rise in
the. price of Corn, which, may take place under
tts present provisions ;.and secondly, to prevent
the enormous glut, which may be at once, and
for a long period, throWn into the market when-
ever the averages amount to SOs. a quarter. It is
therefore clear, as his Lordship stated ;that the new
scale of duties is not proposed as a means of reliev-
ing existing distress, but of guardingagainSt future
. evil. The evil, too, is one-which we belieim all
ran easily foresee, and are equally agreed upon
the necessity of providing for. The latter, how-
ever, is the great difficulty, as no less, than five
sets of Resolutions have been submitted -to Par-
liarikent on that single' subject. These various
Revolutions the Marquis of Londonderry inves-
tigated with great nicety of judgment. His
LOrdship commenced with Sir T. Lethbridge's,
which were the highest in amount, being 355.
per quarter duty above 80s. as an import price ;
the cost of freight and interest of capital being
estimated at'los. additional. To this plan, and
al=o to that of Mr. Bennet, though lower in
amount, one objection applied, namely, that
Whenever corn rose to such a price as they con-
templated,' the cries of the public for foreign
relief would induce Parliament to repeal them
ill foto in a single day. To Mr. Ricardo's it
was objected than they maintained the same sum
of duty both at the lowest and the highest price
at which corn might be imported. The Noble
.ord then went into a comparison of his own and
Mr. Huskisson's. The latter he principally dis-
. s.enied from because this appeared an improper
time to dispense
,with a certain import standard
price, and merely imposed a fluctuating duty on
foreign grain at whatever rate. With respect to
his Lordship's own Resolutions, or rather those
recommended by the Committee, he very skil-
fully reasoned that they embraced ally the bene-
,ticial parts of the others, while divested of
, What appeared in then) exceptionable.

[MORNING CHRONICLE.]

BASK OF ENGLAND.—Mr. Grenfell yesterday
moved for the periods at %Ilia the Charter to
the Bank of England has been renewed, upon
which Mr. Maberly stated that the. Bank, by
their present Charter, had no power to contract
either for this new Loan or any other, and asked
whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer bad
any intention of introducing a clause in the new
Charter, now under consideration, to allow the
Bank to contract ? lie hoped and trusted there
•was no such intention. On which Mr. Lushing-
ton replied, that he could assure the Muse there
war no such intention. We, therefore do not see
any other means of obtaining the Loan but through
The Sinking Fund, for no party or parties what-
ever will lend money under such circumstances
at 3/. 18s. per cent., which is the rate of interest
at which the Commissioners are now daily-laying
out the public money ; the Minister cannot, of
course, give more to any contractors, without
being guilty of the most extravagant waste.

[MORNING II ERA I4D.]
At the Meeting yesterday at the London
Tavern, for the relief of the starving poor in the
South of Ireland, there was much more business
than speaking—a circumstance rather auspicious
for the purpose of the Meeting. It was presided
by Mr. Wilson, the City Member. Resolutions
,for entering into a subscription for the purpose
of affording immediate relief were proposed by
Messrs. Smith and Reid, and agreed to with but
little observation. - A Conducting ComMittee was
next appointed ; and lastly a contribution was
made •Of several thousand pounds on .the spot.
The Irish Members -of Parliament and others
lirtsent expressed a disposition to leave the
sUbscription in the hands of the English
Gentlemen—who have come forward with a
benevolent promptitude that does . them he-
xiatir, and consented to being .MemberS of the
Committee chiefly as poisessing local knowledge
yhich might. be of use. The Archbishop of Can-
terbury was present, and the Archbishop of
York was absent only in consequence of an in=
dispensable engagement. It will be observed
tha. the Government has nothing whateVer to do
with this subscription—with the exception of
C<intributions of WO/. each by Lord Liverpool,
Mr. Peel, and Mr. Vansittart, in their private
.
capacity.

[ARITI§II. iItESS.]
Very few persons .regiet the failure in the
House of Commons of the'plan suggested by the
'Agricultural Committee, of advancing money to.
farmerS upon pledges of corm Lord London-
derry, who moved "the Resolution that embraced'
this project;avowed that he felt very little inte:
mst in its success, and threw all its merits or
demerqs, whatever they might lie, upon the head
of Mr. Irving, the- Member -for Bramber, with,
whom it seems the- plan had originated. The Mea-
sure having been withdrawn, it would promote
no present advantage to pass any comments upon
it, but the result of this attempt to regulate or
infittance the markets of the country by the active
interference of the Government, will deter other
persons from proposing similar schemes, and may
thus-offeruseful negative instruction to the MeM-
bers of the Legislative Bodies. It was well ob-
served by Sir J. Sebright, that the best thing to
he said for the project 'was that the farmers
were understood to approve of it, as offer-
ing them a certain and immediate assistance;
but he added, from his own experience of
the wisheS of the agricultural body, that a

reeling to this effect was not entertained gene-
rally. The views of the farmers upon the present
posture of the affairs, and the only means of sub-
stantial relief, may be very easily collected from
the numberless petitions which have been pre-
sented from that body of men to both Houses of
Parliament during the present Session., and with
this strong mass of testimony before us, it is
worse than affectation to attribute other wishes
to them than that of having the weight of taxa-
tion diminished. The farmers are too wise and
too considerate to seek for the means of perma-
nent relief by any unhealthy measure, the pre-
sent object of which would be to shift the bur-
den of distress from their own shoulders to those
of other classes in the community, and which, in
truth, could upon such terms merely amuse them
with a, deceitful shew of assistance.

NEW TIMES.] •
Mr. Denman was Osterday sworn into the
office of Common Serjeant, by the Court of Al-
dermen. It appears, however, that this measure
did not take place without some objection, which
perhaps may lead to some ulterior proceedings
at law. petition, we learn, was presented to
the Court of Aldermen, to swear in Mr. Bolland,
as the legally elected Common Serjeant. We
have not seen the petition ; but report states
it to be grounded on a subsisting bye-law
of the Court of Aldermen, declaring no per-
son to be eligible to the office of Common
Serjeant who had not been for two years pre-
viously a common pleader of the city. It will
be remembered that the Court of Common Coun-
cil suspended their own bye-laws to give Mr.
Denman an opportunity of becoming a candidate ;
but this, of course, could not affect the bye-laws
of the Court of Aldermen.

[THE TIM ES.]
The proposed Meeting took place yesterday,
at the City of London Tavern, for the relief of
the distresses hi Ireland : and a considerable sum
was subscribed. There is no doubt also that
much will be added. What, therefore, we above
all things hope and recommend is, that the ut-
most care may be used in the application of these
charitable funds. It is remarkable that nearly all
the great Irish' land-owners were absent yester-
day. No Irish Bishops attended. The Archbishop
of Dublin, who isan Irishman by birth,was known
to be in town. A great proportion also of the
Irish Members must be hi Lonilon, as there was
a Call of the House so late as on the 26th ult.,
which was discharged by Sir John Newport on
his finding that so many Members had arrived as
to make it unnecessary. There were also two
Committees at the House of Commons, one on
the- Holyhead Itoad Bill, which is strongly sus-
pected to be a job. We mention these facts
without hastily imputing blame to any one.,
There -are many circumstances, we confess,
in the past treatment and present condi-
tion of Ireland, that may excite in true hearted,
Irishmen that indifference which is akin to
despair, when any measure tending -to relieve
the sufferings of their- country is, proposed in
Engfand. Yet it should be, recollected, that the
good Book says, " But above all things have
charity." The meeting was deficient in informa-
tion respecting the state of the country, and the
best practicable mode of applying relief. There
was not even a letter read from any absent Irish-
man of intelligence and consideration on these
subjects. We hope these defects will be reme-
died ; and that not only the subscription will be
aided, by Irish bounty, but that the most trust-
worthy persons will be employed in giving it
"effect.

FOR THE SUN.

THE CATHOLIC LORD DIGBYIN FAVOUR OF-A TEST,

Ma. EDITOR—As an attempt is now making
to enable Roman Catholic Peers to sit in Parlia-
ment, your Readers will probably not be dis-
pleased with the following speed► of the cele-
brated Lord. DIGBY. It is quoted in Wanuux-
TON'S " Alliance," B. iii. C. i. When at the
Restoration the Bill for making a Test was first
brought into the House of Lords, Lord DiGgy,
then Earl of Bristol, though at that time a Pa-
pist, spoke to the following effect :-44 The
Bill," he observed, " was brought up from the
House of Commons, the Representatives of the
People, and consequently the best Judges of the
temper of the. Nation :—a Bill as full of modera-
tion towards Catholics as of prudence and se-
curity towards the Religion of the State, all the
particulars of it betng reduced to this one intent,
NATURAL TO. ALL SOCIETIES OF MEN, of HINDER-
ING A LESSER OPPOSITE PARTY FROM GROWING

TOO 'STRONG FOR THE GREATER AND MORE CON-
SIDERABLE ONE. And in this just way of preven-
tion, is not the moderation .of the House' of Com-
mons to 1)e admired; that they have restrained it to
this sole. point of bEBAIIRING THEIR ADVERSARIES
FROM OFFICES AN!) PLACES ? However the sin-
titnent of .a CatholiC of the Church •(;;•f Rome
may .oblige me, upon scruple at conscience, in
some particulars of.this Bill, to give my negative
to it, when it comes to passing, yet, As A MEM-
BER OF A PROTESTANT PARLIAMENT,' my advice
prildentially 'CANNOT BUT :GO ALONG with the
•
main scope of it." " •

COURT of ALDERMEN.---Yesterday the Lour)
MAYOR held a Court of Aldermen, at Guildhall,
for the transaction of general business, which was
well attended.—=Thomas Denman, Esq. latfly.'
elected by the Court of Common Council as
Common Sergeant, attended, and took the usual
oaths.—Mr.•Brown attended, and .resigned his
office of Keeper of Nerd ;ate, when the Court
were pleaSed to come to a unanimous resolution
to present him with a-piece of plate, in testiknony
of the high sense entertained of his uniform good
conduct during the time he filled that situation,—
The Couit then proceeded to elect a .Keeper of
Nekvgate, in the room of Mr.- Brown,. resigned,
when Mr. John Wontner, Citizen and ,Clock-
Maker, was unanimously elected, and took th,e
usual oaths.

The price of Beer at two of the In.as at Rams-
gate has been reduced to four-pence per pot,

DISTRESS,JKIRELAND.

MEETING AT THE CITY OF LONDON TAVERN.
A Meeting having been called to take into
consideration the distressed state of certain Pro-
vinces in Ireland, a numerous party of Gentle-
men assembled yesterday at the City. of London
Tavern, at the hour named in the Advertisement
calling the Meeting.--At one o'clock" Mr. WIL-
SON, M. P., entered the late room, accompanied
by'a number of Gentlemen of distinction.
Mr. WILSON having been called to the Chair, opened the
businesOf the day in a brief but appropriate speech. To
save t110:-•time of the Meeting, and to spare their feelings, he
woultl'hot enlarge on the nature of that distress which it was
their object to relieve. It was enough to know that they were
brought together to consult on the means of relieving one .of
our own Provinces which was suffering under the miseries
of famine. • It was not therefore now necessary for them
to Wok back to the cause of that distress, though if they
were to do so, the probability was, that the best conclusion
they could come to was, that it was to be ascribed to the
visitation of Providence. ' That which had now fallen on an-
other country might one day fall upon ourselves, and he was
therefore of opinion that we could not better employ ourselves
than in attempting to relieve the sufferers who called for our
assistance. He had felt in the first instance that there was
some difficulty in taking up this subject as it was now proposed
to do, as Government had pledged themselves to give it their
most serious consideration with a view of supplying an effi-
cient remedy as far as this should be found practicable. All
feelings of this sort had however been set at rest by his find-
ing that the Gentlemen connected with the present under-
taking had been in communication with the Government,
' who far from 'feeling that it would be to cast any slur upon
them to openh subscription, were decidedly in favour of the
measure. They felt that such a.body of men. as he then ad-
dressed could enter-more into the details of such a question
than the Government itself, the Government being necessarily
obliged to act'more on a general survey of the whole question
than the Committee of h body like that. They could more
conveniently apply theMselves to a part of the question which
most immediately" demanded attention than the Minis-'
ters could, and afford relief more promptly than it could be
supplied by the measures of Government. He took it for
granted that the facts stated with respect • to the distress were
believed to be correct. If this were not so, those were then
present who could remove every doubt on the subject.. As to
the subscription, he begged to say that it was thought desi=
rable to distance every idea of competition. It would, be well
that those who were able to do so should give large sums, be-
cause their means were large, and thus others should . give
small sums, because they could spare something, though their
means were not very ample. It was not proposed to begin
this subscription with such very large sums as had been in some
instances subscribed in the course of the war ; but the object
in view was to encourage :all who were disposed to co-operate in
the cause, to-give what they could. He would not •detain the
meeting longer, but would now wait for any resolutions that
might be offered, or speeches that Gentlemen might feel dis-
posed to address to the Chair.
Mr. ROWCROFT rose to correct the Chairman in one small
particular. He begged to state, that those with whom this
meeting originated had not had the smallest communication
with Government. They knew not whether Ministers would
consider a meeting like the present useful or injurious, and
made no appeal to them on the subject. Last night, however,
they had received a very satisfactory communication from the
Government. That communication was very simple and very
much to the purpose. It announced a subscription of
,2001.
from Mr. Peel, 2001. from the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
and 2001. from Lord Liverpool. This was the only com-
munication which had passed between the Government and
those who had called the present meeting.; it had only come.to
hand last night, with a request that it should be made known to
the Chairman of the day, and was the spontaneous announce=
went of the individuals trom whom it had been received.
The CHAIRMAN apologised for the error into which he had
fallen. He saw letters before him, from which it was clear
that Ministers approved of the object of the meeting, and this
had led him to make the erroneous statement which he had of-
fered. He was obliged to the worthy Gentleman for correct-
ing him.
Mr. REID thought it would be wasting time to do more than
. to move a resolution. He accordingly moved " That a gene-
ral subscription should be then begun for the purpose of re-
lieving the extreme distress which at present prevailed in seve-
ral provinces in Ireland."
Mr. CROOK thought nothing could more largely interest this
country than the existing distress in Ireland. He was one of
those to whom the idea- of calling a public meeting like this
had first occurred, and perhaps it might not be too much that
he should occupy their time on the present occasion by making
them acquainted with what had come to his knowledge on the
subject of the misery now experienced in Ireland. He then read
the following letter, dated rullogh, county Clare, April 30,
1822, received May 7 :
" But the most distressed part of our situation remains un-
told. Our peasantry are not merely distressed, but starving..
' Your friend E. and myself rode yesterday a circle of about 18
miles, and the scenes we witnessed were truly terrific. in
some parts the bark of the glm and birch trees have been al-
ready stripped off: In the neighbourhood of Charles's little
box, the young wheats have been repeatedly sheared and
eaten as you would spinage, and even the primrose leaves
have • been carefully collected. Notwithstanding the many
reports, I do not, from personal experience, think that our—=
are half as bad as represented. There is, indeed, much despon-
dence, and a good deal of petty stealing, but it is the belly, not
the head, or heart, which is the instigator. 'We are beginning to
be greatly alarmed at the frequent appearance of pyrexne ;
many cases are decidedly of a typhoid character. We yesterday
witnessed one in a young woman of 22, .in which the petechial
' symptoms of the worst kind of typhus, were but too evident.
I fear it was too late, but we immediately sent wine, muriatie
acid, &c. From the almost total want of every species of nu=
tritive food, nervous fevers of a very malignant type must be
expected, and unless assistance can be immediately given, this
beautiful country must be depopulated by pestilence and fa,.
mine.—For God's sake do what you can in England to assist
us. I hope the worst will be over in about three months, but it
is a very low estimate to say, that in this and the neighbouring
counties 200,000 are without any means of existence at all, and
that there are above double that number who cannot obtain
food above once in the twenty-four hours, and that too of a very
miserable kind."
—That district, he remarked, which most peculiarly felt the
present distress, was the central part of the county of Clare,
which had been one of the richest portions of grazing land in
Ireland. At the end of the war the demand for its produce
had fallen off, and in consequence it had no longer been used
as- grazing land, and this had caused much of the distress which
was now the subject of complaint.
The Resolution was then put, and carried unanimously.
11r. J. SMITH thought there could be no doubt as to the si-
tuation of the Poor in Ireland. He was convinced that the
statements which they had heard were not exaggerated. In the
HouSe of' Commons an eloquent picture of the state of the suf-
ferers had been supplied, which was conveyed in terms most
afflicting to every one who heard it, and if a single doubt
remained, there were Gentlemen. in the room who could bring
forward proofs that would remove it. Such was the, distress
which prevailed, that their brothers in Ireland were literally
perishing from famine.. It was sufficient to state this fact to
induce all who heard him to come forward to contribute to the
relief of the sufferers. Ile moved that a Committee be now
appointed to attend, to: the subscription and' superintend its
application. ~,
Shortly after the busWtess of the day was opened the Arch-
bishop of CANTERBUR‘i entered the,room, and took his seat
on the right of the CHAIRMAN. The Marquis of CONYNG-
Ham followed, and was accommodated to the left of the Chair.
The Resolution for appointing a, Committee having beep
carried, ,
The CHAIRMAN expressed the satisfaction he felt at seeing
the meeting honoured with the presence of -the Archbishop of
Canterbury, and begged to ask if ne would allow his name to
be placed on the Committee?
The Archbishop of CANTERBITRY said he had no objection
to his name being placed on the Committee, but he feared that
he should be found a very .useless Committee-man, either in
the way of solicitation or in that of attendance ; but If it were
thoifFht that his name on the list would be at all -useful, he
begged that it might be placed there. •
The CltAltt3inN their
theexp;es,sed a hope that the Noble Mar-
. ,
quis near him -woutd consent to have his name placed on the
list of the Committee.
The Marquis of CONYSGDAm signified his assent.
The Archbishop of ClAx•rt.ltn,WtY and the Marquis of Co-
riyartaLtst were then voted on Oe Committee.
Mr. MmtTEN had no doubt the Lord Mayor would wil-
lingly become a Member of the CoMmittee, and considering
, where they were met, he thought it due to• the dignity of th
city that lie should be natned. He could mention his Lord-
ship, Mr. Alderman Brown, Mr. Alderman Garrett, and Mr.
Venables, who, with other Members of the Corporation, would
' be willing to come forward in such a cause. He stated this
from himself, as those concerned in calling the present meeting
bad no more communication with the Government of the City
on the subject' than with the Government of the Land. He
(Sir. Marten) had the honour to assist on an occasion of this
kind in 1797, when this country was threatened with evils si-
' milar to those which at present afflicted Ireland. - The greateit
benefits had resulted from the exertions then made to repress

the evil. Much good had been done by the subscription'
opened for the relief of the suffering Germans towards the close'
of the Itite war. He had since travelled through the country,
and been treated with much respect on account of his connec_.
tion with that subscription. He had it from the Magistracy of
Leipsic, that through their exertions thousands and tens of
thousands had been saved from starving. The people of Ire-
land were nearer to us than those of Germany, and though'
Christians thought nothing of kin where human life was at
stake, the connection of Ireland with this Country ought to
supply an additional motive for exertion on the present occasion.
The names proposed by Mr. Marten were added to this Com-
mittee.

Mr. RowcrtorT accounted for the absence of Mr. Bain-
bridge, who was kept away by hig being obliged, as one of the
principal inhabitants of the parish, to be present at the Conse-
cration of Pancras New Church. He had to announce a sub-
scription from him at present, limited to one hundred guineas.
A Lady who desired that her name might be concealed had
chartered a vessel which, laden with 40 tons of meal and 10 of
herrings, she proposed to dispatch forthwith to the nearest Irish
port. He had besides received communications of a very gra-
tifying description from other parts, and expected more to ar-
rive as soon as the post could bring them.
Mr. OwEN (of New Lanark) was requested by the Bishop
of Norwich to state, that his great age, and other circumstances,
prevented him from being present at the Meeting ; but he de-
sired to assure them that his heart was with them.

ROWCROFT read a letter from Dublin, describing the
distress which prevailed in Ireland to arise not so much from a
scarcity of grain, as from the want of money to purchase it,
and the failure of the crops of potatoes in various parts of the
country. The situation of Ireland was described to be most
dreadful, and such as to threaten the most awful consequences,
if relief were not promptly afforded, which could only be sup-
plied by the exertion of meetings like the present.
Mr. BALDWIN said, that having lately come from Ireland,
where he had the honour of being a Magistrate for two of the
southern counties now labouring under the extremity of dis-
tress, and where he had some share in restoring tranquillity in
some of the disturbed districts, having not only accompanied
and assisted the military in putting down two of the most in-
surrectionary movements there, while for every drop of blood
that his duty compelled him to see shed his heart bled in pro-
portion, but advised, reasoned with, and soothed, as much as
he could, the wretched peasantry of that country; and having
much knowledge of their circumstances, wants, and sentiments,
he begged leave with great diffidence, to make a few observa-
tions. The state of the Irish peasantry would, he was sure, if
witnessed by the people of England, be considered by them
loudly to call for the alleviating hand of those who with hearts-
to feel had hands to give. But to their present state, any for-
mer was comparative affluence and luxury. Indeed, their mi-
sery was such, that no descnption could do justice to it ; and it
was unnecessary by recitals of such affliction and suffering as
he knew but too, too many instances of, to harrow up the feel-
ings of a meeting, where he was llelighted to see one accordant
sentiment of sympathy and benevolence pervading. He was
sure that the proceeding which this day was commencing would
do more to conciliate the population of Ireland, and to create,
not a nominal or legislative, but a real and cordial union, an
union of hearts and affections and interests. It would be more,
if well managed, than armies, victories, and laws. When the
Irish peasantry would see the English generously stretch-
ing forth the hand of succour to them, at their utmost need,
and rescuing them from the lowest depth of calamity; that
warmth of feeling which was their characteristic would burst
forward in irresistible gratitude to their benefactors, and they
would then hail those benefactors as their real fellow subjects,
their real brothers, and their real friends. He would now beg
leave to add one remark, with respect to the best mode of ap-
plying the funds. He knew there was an abundance of all
the means of relief except money, for the Irish Peasantry in
Ireland. It was from a want of the ability to purchase the
necessaries, even the most absolute necessaries of life, that the
Irish Peasantry were suffering so grievously. They could
not procure employment, and therefore, however cheap pro-
visions were, they could not purchase them. They were not an
idle or a lazy race. They wished for employment ; they sought
for it ; they begged for it ; but they could 'not find it. He
would therefore suggest that it would be a doubling of the
relief to remit the money subscribed to Ireland, and to pur-
chase the provisions and other articles there.
[Here Mr. ROWCROFT interrupted the Speaker, and said
those were considerations for the Committee ; and the Chair-
man acquiesced in Mr. Rowcroft's observations.]
Mr. BALDWIN begged pardon, if he had in any thing deviated
from the line he should have pursued ; but he only mentioned
the remittance of the money to Ireland, instead of sending pro-
visions or other articles, where there was an abundance of them
already, and where they could be purchased in general much
more cheaply than here, as a very great increase of the assist-
ance, which English bounty and fellow feeling was rendering to
Ireland. He would also, if he were allowed, beg to suggest
that the money be remitted to the Marquis Wellesley, a Go-
vernor in whom the people of Ireland highly confided and re-
joiced, and who was most highly worthy of all their confidence,
and that it should be drawn from him by Committees of the
Magistrates and the Clergymen of all persuasiens of the baro-
nies or half baronies where the distress existed, who must be
so much better acquainted than any London Committee could
be with the local necessities and individual wants of their dis-
tricts.

[Here the Speaker was again interrupted by Mr. Row-
croft, who repeated that these were considerations for the Com-
mittee.]
Mr. BALDWIN said, said, that he offered those suggestions
only that the Meeting and the people of England may be sa-
tisfied that their noble feelings and beneficence might be duly
directed.

Mr. WILLS rose to suggest an improvement of the present
Irish system.
The CHAIRMAN thought, if the Meeting were to receive
communications of the sort now tendered, they could only
have the effect of bewildering the Committee. He should be
happy to hear the sentiments of a Right Hon. Gentleman near
him, whose name he proposed to add to the Committee, who
was intimately acquainted with the state of Ireland (Mr. C.
Grant) and any communications that he might make would
not fail to be viewed as of the highest importance.
Mr. MAxoar proposed to add the name of the Duke of
Devonshire to the Committee. He thought the best course
that could be taken would be to leave the Committee free to act
according to their own discretion. If they did this, where
money was wanted, it would be supplied by the hand of bene-
volence, and where provisions were required, they would be
afforded with the same feeling. In the name of his country,
he begged to return thanks to the Assembly which he _then
addressed for the exertions which they were making in • her
cause. He rejoiced to see those step forward to succour Ireland,
who had before united to mitigate the sufferings of the naked
Russians and those of ravaged Germany, and plundered Por-
tugal. He rejoiced to see the. Archbishop of Canterbury en-
gaged in such a cause, not bearing aloft the banner of pro-
scription, but stretching out the hand of benevolence to assist
the unhappy sufferers of Ireland. It was impossible not to
anticipate the happiest results from such exertions, and he
trusted the people of England and Ireland would henceforth
be united, with common rights and common interests, the
glory of the world, and the admiration of each other.
Mr. J. SMIT II proposed that the name of Mr. Spring Rice
should be added to the Committee.

Mr. C. GRANT, was glad that he had deferred acknow-
ledging the high honour which he had received in having his
name added to the Committee, till that moment, as it afforded
him an opportunity of seconding, at the same time, the nomina-
tion of an Honourable Gentleman near him—Mr. S. Rice.
Among the names which already appeared on the list, highly
as he respected them, he did not know the name of one indivi-
dual who was more capable of serving Ireland, or more anxious
to do so. He thought the best course that could be taken
Would be to leave the Committee at liberty to act as circum-
stances might require, and to take their own course of action.
He was glad to hear the sentiments of the Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Mahon) on the subject of those feelings which the present
Meeting must.inspire. The sentiments which had fallen from
him were a model of those which would animate his country-
men. In- the wildest and most uncultivated parts of Ireland
the proceedings of that day would be known ; and it would be
felt, that .although England was separated from Ireland by
various circumstances, yet in the hour of calamity her suffer-
ings were not forgotten, nor suffered to pass unheeded. It was
unnecessary for him • to dwell on the present distress: on he
subject of its extent no doubt existed. For some months it
had been seen approaching. In August last, the weather had
proved unfortunately wet; and in December it had been com-
mon to see whole fields under water, and the peasants in boats
labouring to pick up their potatoes, as if they were dredging
for shell-fish. At present he was told the distress had compel-
led the sufferers to live on their seed-potatoes. Before the new
crops came in, there was commonly a severe pressure for five
or six weeks. This, in the present instance, had been anticipa-
ted by a month or six weeks. The fever had already appeared,
and if the present pressure were not removed, he.thought there
could be no doubt that it would increase to a considerable ex-
tent. It was lamentable to reflect that in a few years, from
1809, not fewer than 60,000 persons had fallen victims to the
fever. Having said so much, he would leave the rest to the
feelings of the meeting, and the generosity of the country.
A GENTLEMAN, whose name could not be learnt, had
thought the best mode of affording relief would be to .send
somebody over to Ireland to ascertain the wants of the sufferers,
and to administer to them on the spot. He had been on the point
of sending over a person on his own responsibility before this
Meeting was called, He now begged to announce that an in-
dividual well known, from his connections with various bene-
volent institutions, was ready to go to Ireland at a moment's

notice if theConunitteeshould wish to send some one to distri-
bute the Subscribers' bounty.
A list of subscriptions was then read over. Among the
names were the following :
The Earl of Blesinton, 1001. ; Mr. J. Smith, 1001.; Mr.
Reid and Co., 1001. • Mr. Bainbridge, 1001. ; Mr. S. Rice, 501.;
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, 2001. ; Mr. Peel, 2001. • the
Earl of Liverpool, 2001. ; Mr. T. Wilson (the Chairman); I'ool. ;
the Archbishop of Canterbury, 1001. ; the Archbishop of York,
1001. • and the Marquis of Conyngham, 1001.
The Ancnitisllop of CANTERBURY said, the Archbishop
of York would have been present had it not been necessary for
him to take the Chair, which he (the Archbishop of Canterbury)
had left to attend the Meeting.
The t arl of BLESINTON announced a dortation of 3001.
from the Marquis of Hertford.
Mr. GwYx had a list of subscriptions to submit to the Meet-
ing, had the Chairman thought it proper that it should be
brought forward. He, however, had said that such commu-
nications were not intended to be laid before the Meeting. He
could now only state that Lord Milton had sent 1001. ; Messrs.
Snowpall and Co., 501. ; but he had sent for the papers which he
hoped would be useful to the Meeting.
Mr. Rrct had received two notes of 1001. each from some
individual who concealed his name. These he had forwarded
to Ireland, :o be applied according to the wish of the munifi-
cent but concealed donor. He had also received 501. through
the hands of Mr. Sykes. He agreed with those who calculated
on this generosity producing the happiest effects on the people
of Ireland. It would prove to them that momentary irritation,
that crime itself, could almost be over-looked in the hour of se-
vere distress. Having been named as a Member of the Com-
mittee, he would give every assistance in his power, but he
could have wished that, as the first impulse in this business
was English, the whole should have been carried on by English
hands.

Sir E. O'BRIEN described the present distress in Ireland'
from letters which he had received. He stated a benevolent
person to have called on him yesterday, who was' 'disposed to-
give a cargo of meal and rice for the relief of the sufferers; and
who had applied to him to learn where it could be most ad-
vantageously sent. He was unwilling from any selfish motive
to name the county with which he was connected, bOt the
Gentleman had previously thought of sending it there, and-
there he was disposed to send it to relieve the severe distress of
that county.
Several Gentlemen then spoke of the importance of imme-
diately subscribing. The Chairman considered the business of
the day to be over, so far as regarded reciprocal communi-
cation with each other, and future communications would be
best addressed to the several Bankers who receive subscrir.
tions.—Mr. O'Grady named Mr. R. Martin, Mr. Daly, and Mr.
Prendergast, as Gentlemen who would be happy to co-ope-
rate with the Committee. Mr. Wilson then took his leave,
being obliged to retire on account of partictilar business-calling
him away. Mr. Ellis was then called to the Chair ; and Mr.
Owen was about to speak, when the Chairman announced the
business of the day to have reached its termination. The com
pany then separated, but not till very considerable sums had
been subscribed by those who had attended the Meeting, and
a noble basis formed for the benevolent structure about to be'
raised by English generosity, to establish a lasting claim tc"
Irish gratitude.