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London, England, 1809-05-06 00:00:00

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trEWMARK.ET SICO2IO SPP.4IVG MEETING,
Ld 'Grosveisor's Eaton, Sst. sib. best Mr. Shakeipfer!.
iodise. Sst. ylb li. C. am*f h. f t.--4 to 1.09 how
Ld C. 'Somerset's White.tose, 9st. best Maier Wilsodn, •
by Delpinis 751. 70. Across the Flat, $70.-4 t 0.17
White-rose. • • 1. • ,1
D. of Rutland', Saltatot, Sit. alp. beat D. of .110401
Win, Sit. 70; Achiss the list, soots. 5t.4,.00,00=..
saitAtor. •
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Ld CriallPetiOr'S Plover, Ist. but Mr. ."wokipisteir D sir
iilb. Across the PIS; t05ig5...7 to 4on Plofft,t
Str C. Turner's Mr. Untidy, Ist. beat Mr. ha
Brainworm. sit. 710. Two.yr old Course, hoopis. £1.1'5 'Ts
4 On Mr. Gandy.
00411,ti
Sir S. Sitwell', Clinker, Sit. Slb. best Mr. 2
Cheater, Sat. 41b. te 4
LaClSinker.
m 11e$
ir 0; Turner's Mr. Guild,. Est. slb. best Lord 4v_v; on
Deceiver, 9st. alb. • Two yt old Course, sop. Eu
Mr. Goody.
Ld Lowther's Ilyles, slit. but Geo. Grosenoei 1100/4.
7st. 20. IC M. tocisks..-Even betting.
Sweepstakes of sus each. Two.yr old Course. t
Ld Darlington's Levailt, 7st. O.
Sir C. bunbury's Overseer, Ist. tlb.
Ld Gtosvenor's Puck. 7stl slb. -
sto 4 apt Levant-6 50 4 agst Oversee!.
741 e. Vansittart's Rurleigh, beat Gen. GoWer's ArIA-et!
Sst. 41b. each. Across the flat. seep h, ft.-Even bor.
h vs,
Ctn. Grosvcrioris May, 7st. 70. beat Ld Foley's Ce‘i
t. 1). 1. sooss-5 to S.sy
Sir S. Sitwell's clinker,WI
istl. 71b. ter. It. from CO.l PM.
per's Sunbeam, Sit. ;lb. M. ioogs h. ft. well's
Lord Jersey's Lauretta gitt. 910. fee. from Sir S. SA
Spaniard. 731b:M. 'GOO. fa, 110 a"
G . Grosvenor's Asalii, 2st. 130, ft. tee from i•stv fr.
terie's Itrodbiuy. Sit. t3th. Austley End C toogs• %for
SUS. Sitwell's Spaniard, 7st 010. rec. It. from (Jen.
tenors Trump, 7st. 2lb 1.1. M. ioegs. h. tr.. vss-
D. of C.:rattun's Vandyke, Sat. 71b. ree. tt. from 0.1.
sittars's Ilorteigh, 7st. 910. 0. 1. toogs. I. ft.
froth sir C:
Sir C. Turners Bramble, Ssf. 41b rec. Sgs,
Dunbur)'s Overicer, Sit. Two-yr. old C. 400. ". "'

NAVAL Arr
for fire,.ship ino--INTI44NTs--.—The
gal
Bas Roads, is made Post.-4I
Wci°l-"")", "119 to heroically led in tb& Media.
tenant HILL, lit of . the dmethyst, captain sir v .
Yesterday morning
SEYSIOOI3,-- Art
8- - - -.' is appointed blabter and Coll:
!ant Captain ll'
m4ncler.
v
Trlorduenti.catoted to the 'Stock Exchange, that the C0;1
Mr. HAse, Girdle Dank, can,,,
cELI-O"f the ExcitEQUtrk would be tea* ,1
Monday morning, to see ,such persons as prof) its
`to be- bidders tor the Loan for the ensuitlg Yc'irr, 0
the amonanm"t, nagnedthtleientetacteugis:ror f"PtrehicinS'itlowerglillsrvv
it will be made. freted the
G*eriunent very properly have 11 Ot PI-- .
iszitlnmd 'avlaitinte3lratloantdrains'imiliretin;mtbeaci aitilefitattene7itfriorrlt,7l;
There are only four lima at presenc-Nwicen
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lessrs. Cos.D.lsts and Co. •
Messrs. BAR sits. K cis* 00, ke.
Messrs. BA rro an,li Co.
N;es-r. 46:104715, bloacs is. and vo.

'ARIA

MENT.

110USE‘,OF PEERS.
FRIDAY, MAY 5.
Juan Appeal from the Court of Chancery in ire.
land, Page and others v. Hamilton and others, Mr.
Richards was heard for the Appellants; Sir , Samuel
Romilly-for the Respondents.—Further considera.
tion on Tuesday.
The Colonial Customs Baker's Bill passed through
a Committee, and was reported.
The Scotch' Judicature Amendment Bill passed
through a Committee, with Amenciments.—Report
on Monday.
The Nova Scotia Trade Bill, and several other
Bills, were brought up from the Commons by Mr.
'harton, Lord Robert Seymour, and other Metn•
bers, and read a first time.'
Lord Ettse.timp presented a Bill for more effec-
tually preventing cruelty to animals, which was
read a first time; and his Lordship intimated his in.
tention_of moving on. Monday the iieconcl reading of
it on Friday next..... Adjourned.
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HOUSE OP' COMMONS.
FRIDAY, MAY 5.
the Siaiitte informed the House that it would
be necessary frir all its Committees to have leave
given them tOSit'iti.rn*roW, notwithstanding any
adjtitirrinnent 'of the Mouse.—The question being
put, leave was granted accordingly.
The Right Hon. ROFERY ntINDAS (Secretary for
Ireland) `vas sworn in, and took hicseat as Member
for Bdinburg'hshire. , • •'•
-A great number of private Bills Were reported
'through their different stages. • - •
The House haVing gone into a Committee to ton.
'Oder of the duties on glass., some conversation took
place respecting the drawback and bounty on that
article, between Mr. Eidstiison., me. Bathurst, and
1„,9,1r•J. Newport.—Report °ordered to'be received on
4vsortday nc,v,
Air. A. Coorea brought up CH forAmcnding
thb Irish Road Improvement Ath....ftead • a first
time, and ordtred for a secoud reading on Wednes.
/Cray next. . •
'Sir J. Newtonr gave notice, that on. Monday
sestunght he should move for a Committee to in.
quire Into the COncerns of the Irish Poit-offiee.
On the Notiow of the 'Loa") ApvocAn for
Stort.ozp, the Scotch Local Militia Bill was read
a second iitne, and ordered to becommitted on Mon.
clay next.
The Irish Friendly Society's Bill went through,*
Ccimuittee of the whole Honse.-;-.Report ordered to
be received on Monday next.
CHARGE AGAINST MINISTERS.
MADIJOcits ruse, in consequence of the notice
lie hadgiven of a nuition which stood for this day.
He was fully aware of the difficulty which would
attend the preferment of that •cleitn which. he now
unade•on the +loose. a was however confident, it
,o'otild' not be disregarded, when its importance was
'considered; an importance which compelled him to
ashe did at present. lie ruse for fro less a pur-
pose than to cluirge with Corruption two Members
of that House`and of the Government, As the cir•
ecarnstsrice was less founded on matter of argument
than of fatt, he should not &Wale the House any
longer would be absolutely necessary for his
tuatainenr, lie worild alto carefally,endeavour,(l)
*Veleta his condua by the manner in which he
rp(43l4bilag forward his motion. . ':acts had arrived
+.13 AllOwledi; aso giering 31)4 corrupt it nature.
inat floshould account himself no less than a traitor
sud a jacobin, fie - Withheld them. Were thole
riglicel which had developed themselves to his no.
lee 'to be continued, they would tend to sap the
Yeray fonntiation 'of the constitution. fie begged
leave to refer the House to its JoUrnals of the lath
r.bluarY, 'l7OO-, fora case which affeded Samuel
I,rLd-rrancis Shepherd, then Members.of that House.
Mere the case alluded to by the Hou. _Member was
*ad ; it contained the Ito...solutions passed on the
lath and I,sth February, and the
.pith March,
1,00, by the then House of Commohs, on the con-
dud of the abovernarned person)). These resulus
Ilona were generally declaratory of the gUilt attach.
ittir to those persons from their having notoriously
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1.100 kks proceeding upon princyles eicfromely unfair.
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r.PppuLpu rose, :pat emphatic:illy Jisclaimed
the applicabaity of the quotation 'which the lion.
Gentleman he conceived had addressed to him. •
Mr. 'Murata sA D, in calling ..to oiduri assured the.
Hon. Gentleman that he misunderstood the matter. .

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Neither should tseh be the .tssoie adopted in that' to mate a few :.I.Jsevatioill. A enestion of inctelesas
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Wink regulated' tieu en .'gtiltsters imphSed the whene Administration.
Houses The minted of PailhiMent
by the same judicial principles oe this head as evool(f i .'l'lie notice of the Hon. Ceielenian eotttaired,eto
be Observed •in courts of Justice. But was it ever personal ititimation., It was of a general nature,
beard in a Court of Justice, that an. lielivtd-ukhad : though the' charge now made Was only against two
been put upon his trial. without receiving previolis 1 of 'hie Majesty's Mieisters. 'He conceived it to be
information of the chaiges which Were imputed to the duty and right of the House to reeeive charges
him. On this occasion he did not veal( for this or of political roiscOrtdua 'against its Menibers, or
that individual, or this or that side. Were it to he 'against the scovertiment. these tnay be brought
the case, that upon such a statementee the Hote ! forward in two WeyE,- 'eit4l'' by the.solenin Method
Gentleman had made, the person afteaed by that of impeachnieet, .or by en, oral charge. The
statement should withdraw, he verily believed the. House, in either 'case, haying heard the charges,
Hon. Gent:en-tan' would. have the entire House to ' Wqnl4_ then conclude to (that decision they'seistild
himself. The present motion was but a part ailed come. The precedent stated, that national*
general system which dealt in throwing out loose and bad been received of corrupt preeices having ex=
vague accusations. 'He alio conceived that the Hole isted, the Journals, • however, made no speech
Gentleman bad mis-stated his own precederit, for it on the occasion. But it . was evident Sometlifng
would be- found, that m the
,ease to which belled more had, taken place than in !lie first' iostance, ••
alluded, the matter of accusation had heen'preVieus and that there had beet') previdui inquiry amid inv tee
to the final decision by the•. House, subMitted for: Ligation, for it wouhl be found in tly shred
0 or cue-
examination to a Committee of Privileges. Lie, i Ceeding lineeupon the journal, slicer the Rouse had
therefore, was inclimei 'to think, that the
.1-1011. aped upon that information, w•hicheeeld not he the.
Gentleman's precedent would not bear him out. ease it there had trot been a charge. It Wes bet
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tint the party accused .0)0141 he leeird, hue
Sir •F..Buitetere did not believe his Ron. Friend right
(Mr. Maddocks) had hay" objeaion to state to the
there should be something proved sin 'which he
House, even at present, the grounds On which he should fae heard. The matter, as he l'i'Jwed it, .
brought forward his charges. Hew
also:believed that would conic to this short question, whether charges
the ournals of the House contained many mere lint detailed should be hoard at the Bar of theybese
Whatever would be the' fete of the motien iii its_
precedents than that hi-Ought torward•hy. the H 0...
nourable Gentleman, wherein the House present shape, it woeld not shut out , jealous as any fie t her
it bed ever been of its privileges, frequently. came i P.r
m.:ceding when it had a-;.,turied until her on
,a feture
to a decision upon much blighter grounds than the•daY. He thought it right to mention thiS,
.as being;,
present. . • what occurred to him on the subjea. . He thought
it his duty to state besides, that the matter:came aim
Mr. BI4DULPIr said, that when coming to the
it was asked of him, whether he thought.any t trial, as much as it did on other,
_Hon.'Geotlernen,
wholly by surprise. it was not from a Went of dia-
pers= 'would be found to secund this motion ?
itis reply was, that he conceived it became the duty position that he did not now render to the fon. '
Gentleman, that support and assistance which it
of some friend to-the persons accused to step lora ard
-and do so, if they were inclined to clear up their was his constant • isle to render to emery lion.
chateau. After what had' been said, he did not in- Member of that Hons.:, but it Wes 'from a wain of
deed think that the matter would have passed as it meens, which. iaere not Abated him ker the pur-
pose byany preeious notice er infornettion on the
did: The Motion went to accuse' the 'persons so
. charged as being aaive agents in corruption. fire j subjea. 't he House 'u as to pronounce', aye or no,
whether this were to be the resoltuiou on which it
tone and vigour of that House, aid .the feelings
of Ministers, must be very much fallen indeed was to decide.' • : . . .it they suffered such 'accusations without reply. Mr. Maboncies did net wish to say sea -thine
farther oii the sid.jeet ; he should await the Ple, astite
...The House had heard • that Minister:: admitted
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the feat alleged against lhem. In answer to: this, of the House.
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Air; Secretary CANNING Said, that it W 35 neat b}
a Might Hon. GentletuAii replied that the fans were
any means his inteetioe to attrihuto any improper
not, so established, 33 they bad neither admitted nor
'denied' therm tut no man could be considered a motives to the Hun. Gentleman who hrongle tete .
pit per person to till such a responsible situation, , . w4ol,thii motion. . lie hence sat liitte woult.t fit.:. but
;one ..entimeet On the subjea, . Ile should not op-
who would not ley hold of every opportunity, to char
pose the' Home givineeits decided opinion upon the
bit tanduct from the imputatioe with, which it was
chirged. The present case went to such an extent j matter, lii proportion as the Hoese would he atis..
led by such untbundedeccuseibus, in the saintl firiiri,
as distinctly and •by name to accuse two of his Mae
portion would it he nedessary„ that a proceeding li)ce.
' jesty's Ministers- of attempts to. procure, by unfair
and corrupt practices, seats in that House. ' HIS the present' should' not be !bible to recurrence, He
Hon. 'Friend lay under the disadvantage of inexpe . ' roFe to ahtielhate what should come from the other
rience in addressing that House; but he trusted :de (if the House, if it shoeld nut be the caseithet ,
there were other Hon, Members, possessing die. t this motion Woeld he withdrawn, he weiblel' give it
tinguished abilities, who Would not setter the calor • his decided negetiVe. . . ; ,
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to pass unnoticed. • • Mr, Wuteinteara said, that the-'Right Honour able
Mr. BATHURST did not thintethat there was any Gentleman opposite.had shewu very, extraurdionry
security for a public man, it issue was 'permittad to reasona why the moti;ni should be rejeCled. If it
be tried on the presenemotion. He believed that were to prevent a rectnreoce of any thing similar, he the proposition of the Hon.. Gentleman would go did not know bow pintiog a negative on .the motiune
the full length of declarieg that it was impossible • could operate to prevent it. , Any other person t.teay any 'semen in a public situation should sit in that. be misled as much as his Hon. Friend on tlits,occa-. House. It was not a measure calculated upon sober. sion. His error arose from not possessing' sufficient I
suggesti-ons. It would but add fuel to the flame, records of information. Mr. Slit' plead had protested:
;ad cherish that spirit which existed in the Public his innoceeee, in his place when accused ; :the ChJli..
mind generally, the idea of corruption without the allot of the Exchequer might base done the claw if
stliallest tbuneation for warranting each an idea. It he pleased. , courteous caudal should nvt ni- .1 id le es
may he truly said of it that it tended-2e- . . Out of the constitutional spirit so•,:nlet.essary:to, the
P 4 SpargeN ifesIIII in !elven ambesuas.” emergency aline ijIMS, TIM Hon, Gentleman Ina
There was no substance he apprehended in the sur-. t sunset that he: would 149-thl3 story in detail, tonicite
muses anti suspiciona on which the tuotioti was I would be but right to m104;1164 ao to do. Monlr-
brought tbrwerd. It was awl brought formed in a I bad oesto acid of the deogere Reim derived from. the ~'
tangible form, so that the House may decide who- eXilaordinary ,powers of a wide waiting (.'ommittee. I
they the •tuatter was wo;•thy, Of its adoption or not. l'o avoid such Measeyettiencies the Holt. (;stulleinanel
It was eaten such loose grounds-as the present that ' had male a goueral charge only that he specified the
the precedoit which was alluded to had-stood, •A . names of the accused, tle had:seleCted r hose persons
charge had beet) made, but :it Wari unspecific, end t but (It the ..iNdmin I .tr.it ion,
.atel: told that lie would
.therefore repugnant to ideas oft:batmen Justice. It orove, at thseatr of the Peuseppkilat ho hum* for-
sake impossible for the Right Hon. Gentlemen to ward igainst then, Ile (lirA lopread). had 'imam.
have detended himself in a case so indiscriminate. apologies being iilltiCirntitt even in cues wherecoua
Thu 'maw was a public (see, affecting the establish- yialon had rowed...lle woold deny that this wee, ars
men, of the Governineuts as well as the iteheisluel an Hon.gemleuren had said,aeyatematie attack ()port
accused. Upon the whole, he considered the tyro-
all :publictuen : He wouittask,viteits tl

wliet quack. ,walt
made had it not bp.ciktirpught Itt4Po, and 41,**11 by the

cottfushion of t colle.le,aes to. din person h.) attattedi
Was it trot to LA: loom! ott the.J4uruil-; Flys= Hot).
Gentlet-wilt) wa4 bound to show I.4ol.l.ltialsoamusatious
bad berm wade. I'hat Holt. (..;entlornatt hail also
thou; ht proper to inals:e all • 1

alitisions to the proceedings
of certain clubs In the present day. Who was
would ask,• or what• was it that excited the public
mind ? What, but the investigatiOn which.toad
place into thecondua ofn Nob 4) Lord; . and where,
though the accusation had been ta!ut)4lst tromevlet,
the House bad refused to proceed in it ? Hevould
opettlyproclaint what had been his sen.timettls throngh-"
out his political life. For every word which be bad
said., 'either in rh it Fiume or ont of doors, be WaS
bialleit responsible', nor • would he flow feel .any
regnit at having neoe among the people. At one.:
incetimz, in.leed, where ao I lon. irLtrottet, 1,;3 friends
prctide:l,ll(; %yds happy to say th t lie (141 1“a attulid,
not because hd.con'ildered the t 'the meeting
an improper on,e, or that he di ; tf,t,ro►e l iii the
nating th-e only flit seri-
timents of a meeting can be convey:dw bat because
advantages hitt bitt formerly I,,:ten to intistne the
public mind rig:lput how 'persons wlm attctide;4. t
lie thought he could do any good, and no harm, by
his presence .on that oce.a4ion, he would ,certainly
have attended. The Hon. Pentletnan had supposA.
that an attack was made an public men, at it it wis
designed that they should be excluded from seats in
the Hattie. It was not his wish that the Chancellor
of the Excheciulr, the ;Lords of the Treasury, or the
SCClrt.irio, of State should be deprived of the right
to. sit in Parliament. He did not . ish that things
should be carried to the extent proposed in this par.
titular by tim 4tt of iciticment in 1700 x hut be
saw before h:s efts, without wishilig to be cotbider-
ed as pointiog,at MLitt idnals, ninny wi,ose pubhe
places rendered them until Members or that House.
If the matter eßme hereafter to atiu,stion of
elusion, he did :not' knew how far he would go
in this pat-tient:tr. Ile ‘loold say that we were
driving Oil to uothitt4 dativrotts, but to the de-
/calor) Of Tne the ifoi.che«
queer hsti said the 'worts of the prop 43 was to be
col led ed trzra thetite ratetings-1 but did the It ig,ht
Horroural)le (4,:nt1et5.140 thet lhi opinion or
Inc *144 cpll-•.! loci from-the I