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ing from that which he had expressed on the present. But,.
first, as to the advantages of the bill : ,surely the mere enact-
ment to lend small smns of money under'lo/., at •an interest of
20 per cent. less than that charged by the pawnbrokers, was
of itself a proofthat the hill would be a benefit to the coun-
try. Ills Lordship here proceeded to point out the' various
advantages. which the ' public would derive from the esta-
blishment 'of this company, as contrasted with the system
pursued by the pawnbrokers ; and then contended that the
Lard Chancellor had not taken a correct view of time pre.
amble of the bill. It embraced not only pawnbroking,- but
also. advances on goods and, profits. The Noble and Learn-
ed hord had also overlooked the effect of certain clauses
in the bill; .there were some clauses in it, which made
every Member of the company liable in person as well as in
purse; and those clauses relating to partnership, to which his
Lordship had alluded, had been copied from an act called
" An Act for the better regulation of. Partnerships in Ireland,"
which had/received the Noble-and Learned Lord's assent this
SesSion. It had been admitted by the Noble and Learned
Lord, that the Bill had been drawn by an able hand ; and be
(Lord Deere) had the opinion of an authority, only second to,
his. Lordship, that it contained nothing that could be legally
objected to. Lie was satisfied that the Bill was calculated to
afford great benefit to the country ; and it would, therefore, be
matter of deep regret to him, if the Noble and Learned Lord ow
the woolsack, or the other Noble and Learned Lord (Redesdale)
who sat before him, should so surround it with technical diffi.
culties as to cause it to be rejected by the House.
The House then divided, when the numbers were—
For the third reatting--aContent, 144 Not content, 27.
Majority against the Bill, 13.
The Bill for abolishing the sale of offices in the Court of
King's Bench was read a second time.
' • The Bill for abolishing the sale of offices in the Court of
Common Pleas, the Excise Duties and Drawback repeal Bill,
the Irish Currency Assimilation 'Bill, the Master of the Rolls
and Vice-Chancellor's Salaries Bill, lie COurts of J ustice Offices
Bill, and the Universities Police Bill, were severally committed
and reported.
The Partnership Societies in Scotland Bill was read a second
time.—Adjourned at SEVEN O'CLOCK.
•

! stage ofthe Spring Guns hill, .he would propose a clause, for
rendering it illegal to Set them by day.
- ' ItlR. KENRICK.
Mr. DENMAN moved the Order of the Day for consider-
.
inglhe petitiOir against Mr. Kenrick, and calling in as a wit-
ness Mr. Martin Money (Janfor. . .
The SPEAKER hereroatr..`On'the point of form, and,obsetv-
thathe was'ignorant of the intended course about to be
-taken upon this business. If it were intended to call an indivi-
dual to their bar, and interrogate him While the Speaker:was
in the chair; the course would be to commence by putting such
interrogatory through him ; but if it were intended to open, a
gerietal examination of the petitioner, and then to have a cross-
examination to follow by all the membets, then, perhaps,
the mote convenient course would be to proceed in a Corn.
mittee'of the whole House. .\n order had heen.made for the
attendance of Mr. Kenrick,- either personally or by his Coun-
sel, that he-should have the opportunity of attending, or of
being heard at the bar, when the petitioner or witness was under
examination.
After a fe* words upon the point of form, from Mr. PEEL,
Mr. Be oircrasm, and. Mr. DENMAN', the House .resolved
itself into a Committee of the whole (louse-.-Mr. GoupoN
in the 'chair.
Martin Money Canter and Mr. Kentick, or his Counsel, were
ordered to be called in.
Mr. Gurney and Mr. Boliand appeared for Mr. Kenrick.
The petitioner took his •station at the bar, and was examined by
Mt;'DEIVTIAI4.—He is a limner, and was living last summer
nearCharlwood-common, Surrey. About the month of May
in last year he lost some sheep--abotit ..in_number. 0ne...0f
them was-a-ram. He searched the country for them d'uring
the whole Week. He found them. The witness was directed
to withdraw.
The.ATTORNEY-GENERAI, objected to his being al-
lowed written notes to refet to for his answers.
• The witness was recalled, and direCted !.o answer without
looking at his notes.
• Examination continued—He found some of the sheep upon
Westwood-common, which is about five .or Six miles frorii
Charlwood. He did not hind the ram with tire sheep. There
were six ewes and five lambs. They were all marked with a
particular composition of tallow and something black, not at
all like the marks on other sheep. Ile had never seen sheep
with such a mark.. He afterwards found the earn in a fold

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

with some sheep belonging to one William Beale, who lived
1 near Betchworth. The ram was shore : when he lost it the fleece
alr. FOWEI.I. BUXTON took the opportunity, while pre- was on. Ice lam Beale, and asked him where be got the ram. .
seating the petition of the Corporation of Wallingford in fa- Beale said he bought it some time betime. Ile asked Beale if
your of a reform in Parliament, and an amendment of the .he had sold the wool : Beale answered that he had not. lie •
bribery oath, to state, not in the way of complaint, but of asked Beale. to produce the fleece; but Beale would not—
correction, that he had been misunderstood in one of the papers Beale would not give up possession of the ram, but said he
this morning respecting some parts of his speech last night.— thought it was his. Witness asked him it' the mark in the fleece
He did not say that the Slavery Abolition Society, of which he was on the right side ; Beale said It was. Witness told him •
was a member, had solicited the correspondence of the alis- he wax sure that it was his ram. Beale bad no sheep parked
sionary Society respecting the treatment of West 'lndian in that manner. Witness only wanted to see the fleece; he
slaves, but quite the reverse, and,that he had had do commu- was sure that it was his ram: - Beale would not give it- up.-a-
nication with missionaries upon the subject. It was also a Witness applied to a neighbouring alagieirate, Mr. Kenrick,
mistake to state that he had said the inhabitants of Barbadnes of Betchwartla He never saw Mi, Kenrick before. This was
had subscribed three-fourths of the expence of rebuilding the on Monday morning, somewhere about the beginning of June,
chapel which they had demolished; for, he was sorry to say, :bout the-middle of tae day. .He first sew One (jeorg.e Adams,.-
they hatl not subscribed sixpence towards such a purpose. • butler to Mr. Kenrick. lie said that he Wanted to see the Ma- •
Mr. BROUGHAM presented a petitiOn from Mr. George gistrate. Adains wanted to know what it was about; said that
Milner, a very, respectable alagistrate of the county of Cam.- it wag pest the hours of bnsinees, and would sot introduce hint
bridge, who complained of the unfounded imputations which melees•witeress told him. WitnEss did tell hint. fie was shown
were insiouated against him in consequence of the petitical of into Mr. Kenrick's and told Mr. Eenreck that he had come for
a Mr,_Hayes, lately presented to that House, which charged a search-warrant, to secure the fleece of a ram which he had
him with refusing to take bail in cases in which, as a member lost. He told Mr. Kenrick that he had seen the ram, and could,
of the profession of the law, he knew he was bound to take i swear to it. He told alr. Kenrick that Beale. would not give
eucirbad.—The petition was laid on the table. up possession of it, and he wanted a search-warrant. Mr. lien-
psaeird,, w„hilicaleinvaostetliee;,fmorn%elortiialgsetaorcßh
.011 the motion of Mr. Buou Guam, the Apothecaries' Bill rick began to write. Adams left the room, and came in again
-warrant.
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(a) tars. .
was read a third time, and passed, omitting a clause respecting, wwwKaieetlrnhlr.ra,ai,nekp:
a new mode of professional payment.
an Witness
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astevarch.
CHARGES AGAINST A CLERGYMAN. .
Mr. J. SMITH presented a petition from Mr. Montagu Bur-
fleece. Mr. Kenrick flew Into a great passion, and ordered
at-
goyne, a gentleman with Whom he had long the pleasure of be- tention to the paper, having rJready refused to deliver up the
churchwardens ,
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Of the parish of Sutton, in the county of Kent, of the gross mis-
conduct of their clergyman, who had violated all the rules of talk to me about your solicitor." -.Finding ;that the Mae'
his order, and given scandal to the neighbourhood, while at gistrate was offended with what he had. said, he begged •
the same time he had contrived to evade the punishment due to i hint to go on in his own way. Mt. Kenrick gave the paper
his offences, anti set the parish at defiance. The circumstances ‘t. e Adams, and asked whet was the Christian name -a—
of the case were these :—ln the year 1808 the Rev. Dr. Free ' Ours is James," .'dams -said, " and the one charged
got the living of Sutton, and had since by his acts, brought is William." Adams asked if it was to be served by a
scandal and disgrace upon- his profession. Ilis conduct had constable? Mr. Kenrick said to witness, " That is not neces-
been so notorious, that all delicacy of allusion to it had long been sary—take it yourself to lie, la" Witness took the note to
removed. Some of the charges against him were of the following Bettle's mother. He did not find Beale at home ; he made
nature :—H e was charged in the yeti. 1813 with having had an sure of thearam ; he foie dit in the g oands of Mr. Nash, who
illegitimate child; in the years 1814 (twice that year), 1815, held the next farm to B ele's. lie stepped into the public- -
arid 1817, similar charges had been repeated against him ; in house-=presently in came •teale. Witness said he hada note from
1823 a female servant became pregnant by him, and he had Mr. Kenrick ; Beale Fa 4hel al nothing to do with it. Wits
caused her miscarriage by violence and ill-treatment. His !tees asked for the fleece: B, ale would not give-it. ailitneee
other vices were drunkenness, exhibiting his person in thainoet said lee would go to anoth .1- alag'strate. On Tuesday, off
indecent and obscene manner, and in fact openly evincing the welt witness to Mr. Bea ess a justice residing near Reigate,
most scandalous behaviour. To such a-pitch had he carried the three miles front Mr. Ke. risk. Sir. Burgess would give him
repetition of his vices, that in the village which, according to no warrant, though he wa• g itig on very well,. till witness told
the census of 1821, contained a population of 369 souls, the him of the note from Mr. K 'nick. Mr. Iturgess said, that he
congregation attending the church service had dwindled down was sorry witness did not co ne to him at first, and he would
to 10 or 15 persons, chiefly children and old won en. Coin- have granted -the warrant. Mr. Burgess refused to go on, and
plaints had been repeatedly made of this person's ou'rageousim- advised witness to go back to Mr. Kenrick. He went next
morality, both to the late and present Bishops of the .oiocese ; morning (aVetleentay). First he saw Beale talking with Jas.
but wheel it was understood that the expence of a diocesan pro- Beale, bailiff to Mr. Kenrick. Ile asked Beale again for the
ceeding at law fell upon the Bishop, and sometimes cost 5001: fleece ; Beale said " I'll see it out with you. Both the Beales
'or 6001., it was not to be wondered at that such proceedings laughed. Witness saw-Adams, and told .him that Beale wit,
were not hastily restated to:However, the case of this profligate come, and that he wished to see Mr. Kenrick. Adams said
person did at length get into one of the Courts of Doctors' Corn- that Mr. Kenrick had left the whole matter for Mr. Nash and
moue, from which, however, he contrived to appeal to the Cieum t Mr. Cutler to settle. IVitnees called Beale, who, came to
of king's Bench, under the Act of the 27th of George 111., Adams. Adams said, " How is this, Beale ? (Here as in se-
which was said to limit the introduction of complaints against veral other parts, the answers of the witness were not distinctly
clergymen for incontinence to a period of eight months from audible in the gallery ; indeed, few of them could have been
the time of commission ; so that the churchwardens were likely understood there, but for the repetition of them by the Hon.
by the interposition of legal technicalities, to be deprived of and Learned .Gentleman who examined him.) Nash was a
redress from the open grievances which they now endured from land-agent in the neighbourhood. Adams said that Beale would
this profligate clergyman, and to be still afflicted by his pre- produce the fleece. Witness said that was all that he wanted.
sence and his vices. It was time, then, to see whether it was Beale produced the fleece for Mr. Nash and Sir. Ede to look at
not possible to remove some of these legal obstacles to the pro_ it. Witness sent the lad who cut off the fleece belonging to
per punishment of such an individual : the last and present I another of his sheep, and produced it. They decided that the
Bishop had had trouble enough with him, and the parish still fleece in the possession of Beale belonged to the witness, who
more; and lee defied them all. The prayer of the petition was •went to Mr. Kenrick wide the fleece. Mr. inenrick said,
to amend the Act of the 27th of (ieo. 111., and remove the " What's the matter now ?" Witness just told him. what had
technical obstacles which had arisen in this case. happened. Mr. Kenrick told Adams to shut the door, which
Mr. PEEL said that he now heard of this case for the first was done. " Now, AdamS," said Mr. Kenrick, " I appoint
time, and he admitted the great respectability of the petitioher, you a special constable ; you take and search him for that note
Mr. itlontago Burgoyne. It must be obvious respecting the I gave him." Witness said he would not be searched by Adams.
conduct of the individual who was now complained of, that so There he was; Adams stayed at the door. Mr. Kenrick said
very numerous a body as the clergymen of the Church of Eng- " Adams, send for the ( onstable of the parish." Witness was -
land must occasionally(be would fain hope very rarely) be -ex- kept an hour. John Bachelor, the parish constable, came. Mr.
posed to the pain of having amongst them some unworthy and . Kenrick said " Constable, there's your prisoner." Witr ess
disreputable individual. But he could not help thinking, that stared, and did rant know what to make of it. " Constable, do
the exemplary conduct of the body generally, would make the Your duty—search for a note which he has upon him." Wit-
odious conduct of any vicious individual only appear the more ness would not resist the real constable of the parish, and suffered
glaringly shocking, from the force of contrast. In the present Batchelor to search him. The note was taken from him. ale.
case, if any of these allegations were trite, it was quite clear Kenrick said, " Take the fleece from him." The constable took
that the individual was utterly unworthy of belonging to the the fleece. Witness would not leave till the fleece was sealed
clergy-of this country, and he Should certainly-inquire whether, up. Witness niought his action directly. It stood for trial at
consistent with the rules of justice and the rights of persons, the 'last Croydon assizes. There was a compromise; Sir.
any impediments could'be removed which tended to prevent the Kenrick was 'to pay 51. damages, and all the expences that wit- •
punishment of his improper conduct. A t the same time, in jus- ness lied been at, including loss of time and all other losses. He
tire, to the person impugned, and as suits were now said to be had a stack of hay spoiled on account of his absence. Witness
pending against him, he hoped the Hon. Member would not was a Week from home before lie got informetien of where time
move to have the petition printeeL He should certainly inquire sheep were. He could not say who proposed the compromise ;
into the case. he heard nothing about it; but he believed one of the gentle-
alr. BROUGHA-M said, that as suits were pending, and for men near him (the counsel) could tell, for be was counsel for
no other reason, it would be as well not to have the petition Mr. Kenrick.
printed. In the proceedings of the -diocesan, however, there Mr. BROUGHAM proposed that Mr. Keurick's Counsel
appeared, for some cause or another, great supineness, 'which should not be allowed to cross-examine.
perhaps had led to subsequent delays in the legal measures re- Cross-examined by Mr. GURNEY.—It was about the end of
sorted to against this profligate clergyman: Mr. Burgoyne May or the beginning of June that it happened. He could not
was constantly applied to as a araoastrate to-take cognizance of swear to the day of the month. Mr. Kenrick did say that
charges against him, and it was high time that a stop was put Beale was a man not
farmed.Witnes
s
peace acts, which brought scandal upon religion, and disturbed the did not hear him say how many acres Beale
peace of the neighbourhood. did not threaten, that unless he had more money paid him he
Mr. JOHN Sal ITEI said, that he would refrain from mov- would tackle Mr. Kenrick again. Mr. Kenrick had Paid 1301..
ing the printing of- the petitiou, as the Right Hon. Gentleman That did not cover the loss witness had sustained. He did sae,
. (Mr. Peel) had pledged himself to inquire into the transaction. that if Mr. Kenrick did not pay him for what he had lost, as lie.
lie begged to assure the House, that he should not have pre- was bound to do, that he would tackle him again. Witness-
seated this petition had he not satisfied himself of the truth of
, identified the note and read it :—" These are to request that
the allegations it contained. Mr. Burgoyne was constantly you ,will deliver to the bearer the fleece of a sheep admitted to'
called upon as a Magistrate to take cognizance of his miscon- Kaye' been taken by you from Westwood, in order that it may
duct, and he had offered more than once to proceed no further beyroduced as evidence before me, on a charge of felony, et:
against the individual, provided he would resign in favour of bring it with you to my house, and show cause why you should
his curate, and _quit the parish ; but the refractory individual not ea aca- - "W. KENRICK. •
set every body at defiance : indeed, the only inference which ' . •
r 0 William Beale." .
. his conduct had raised was, that lee must he insane. • Baarnined by Mr. PErte'—The ram was in 'an open fold
The petition was then laid on the table. i with 40 oreatO sheen. 'lle:lvis directed to the particulazafield by
- On ehe motion of .Mr. al AIME La., •an account was ordered' I ieformation that he got, of Beale having led it by striag off.
of
of the stamps upon indentures for the year 1824. - the common. Witness hattetedd Sir. Kenrick that he bad a
SPRING GUNS. chain of evidence to bring it home to Male. He was sure that
Mr. RIDLEY COLBORNE gave notice, that in a future no other sheep had ever been marked with the same compost-