The Sun.
London, England, 1813-05-15 00:00:00

I AIRE RIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.

FRIDAY, MAY 14.

MISCELLANEOUS..

Their Lordships- met at the appointed hour;
and heard Counsel respecting several Scots Ap-
peals ; the judgments upon which were post=
pored., ,• .
The Earls of -DARLINGTON CHARLEMONT,
KINNOUL, 8.11(1 13 ALCARRAS; and Lords VERNON
and MOl4TitortT, were sworn, and took their
scats. '

Lord WALSINGgAII preSented a Petition from
Richinond, in' Yurkshire, in favour of the Propa-
gation of Christian Knowledge in India.
Lord StIFFIBLD preseuted a Petition from r!&-
thin Merchants and Traders of the City and Port
of London, against the 'importation of goods
and merchaudize from the United States of Arne-
ti .

Their Lordships then adjourned • for some time
during pleaique.
The Rouse resumed about five o'clock, when a

number of private, and return 13il1s were received
from the Commons, presented by Lords G.' L.
(;oWEa and STANLEY, Mr. CAREW, arid,other
former Members ;' the were respectively read a
first time.
A considerable number of Petitions in favour
of the Propagation of Christian Knowledge in
India, were presented from different parts of the
country ; generally 'from Parishes or places of
small note, by Earls Dile4BY', GIIOSVENOR,SPEN-
CER, FiTZWILLIAM, LIVERPOOL, 1115601111tS MEL-

VILLE, BULKELEY, Lord GRANTLEY, the re!) bi-

shop of YoRI, and the Dult6 of GRAFTON ; which
being read short, were ordered 'to lie ou the
table. -

The Duke of Sussex presented.a Petition to the
same effect from the }riends and Supporters of
theaaptist Missionary Societies in the Metropo-
lis ; as did, •
Lord. ChtENViLLE from Wesleyan Societies in
the City and' Vicinity of Bristol.
On the motion of Earl GROSVENOR, the Lords•
were ordered to be summonea for Tuevlay, with
referenee to:the second reading of the Sinecure
Place Bill. ' '

. . .
The LORD CHANCELLOR reminded their Lord-
ships
that the consitleiation of the' case of the
Borthwick Peerage, iniolVing points of infinite
importance to the Honae, was already fixed for
that day at five o'clock.
I The Earl of LAUDERDALE shortly' adverted to
the great inconvenience experienced by the Noble
Lords with respect to entering proxies, in eonse-
quence of the House meeting three times a week
At ten4l'clock, as the relevant standing orders pre
scribed that proxies should be entered before
prayers
.each day. With. a view to obviate this, he
moved, '

" That the Lords be summoned' for Monday, to, take the
85th stundiu order, for the purpose of introducing therein the
words, " lietore three o'clock," instod of "Before prayers,"
as "it now prei,crihedi" , . • •

The LnitT) CUM;CiLL,OR •thought there coithi
be no objection to such an alteration, and the
Lords were'orderett to be summoned. accordingly.

FOREIGN RELATIONS.

Earl GREY said, before their Lordships 'pro-
seeded
ceeded td the Order of the Day, he would e4dea-
vOur to obtain some information from Ministers
• • . •
upon points respecting whichit was nuportaut
and necessary the House should sooner or later
obtain information. He had purposely abstained
from making any inquiries respecting the measures
of Government, particularly With regard to their
fOreign coimections, hecaute his anxious wish
.was; that, under circumstances evidently so ad-
vantageous, either for a favourable negociation
for peace, or for conducting the war with addi-
titionaf vigour and effect,'shonld the enemy refuse
14 fair proposal for peace ; with advantages so un-
eXpected autfso unhoped for, in consequence of th,l
events of tlie last campaign,
,Ministers should ex-
perience no embarrassments, in lot
lowing up that line of. conduct so obviinisly called
for by circumstances ; that they should have an op-
portunityof proceeding unfettered to negociation.
13 ut a periodwas now arrived at which he could no
,longtr refrain from adverting to rumours which be
liad heard,a and which were urged
,with no in-
considerable degree of Confidence. He wished
for.no discussion of the subject at,present ; but
to suite that if one of these rumours with respect
to inducements held out to:a power- whose aSsisf-
ance Wait sought for was in any degree founded,
he mast say it was One of the most iniquitous as
well as the most injurious propositions .lie ever
heard Of, especially 'with' a view to the considera-
tion of future arrangements ; in which light he
must regard it as one of the most injurioup pro-.
positions to the best interests of
this country.
phat was not all ; he underStOod there appeared
in a paper heforethe other House, an account Of
the, distribution. of the last vote of credit
advancenient of a consideiable sum on the part d
tbis: countr,,to Sweilen. lie need not state to'
their .4oraships that Parliament had a•rliibt
know for what purpose that money was so
vanced. In former discussions On this stitijeet,
it was held, tIISLt unless partieular: circumstancei.:
could be pleaded, Ministers w'ere 'not justified
milking such 'advances: Jt•was incontrovertibly
true, at least, that Parliamentshould be int:6o4o
of the purpose of such advances. These were
poitits on Which he thought Ministers were called`:
upon to afford information to :Parl.ittinent; and.
that it behoved them to take care ind to connect'
the faith and honour of time
.country with such
p r 'dopos'
ons, previously to Parliament being in-
formed upon the Stibject, respecting which it was
also his wish to'know if Ministers shortly meant
Japlic any fegular,cOnnnitnication.,
The it:,a ly
rl of LiVEoolassnredthe Noble Earl
the llouse, that nothing Could give his Ma-
je.ty's Ministe-rs greatei• 'satisfaction than to be
able, consitnntly with their decided sense of pub..'
lit: may, to atiorl the (liiirect explanation, or to
state to Parliament the prineiplep; upon which their
advice to his Royal lliglinefis the 1-1,60ee Reurept
w is founded, in consequence
of the events' of last.
c;-tnipaigty. said the 4ntijeet
,could not be
athninkitely entered on, Without .4 full disclosure of ‘,
all its bearings and connections,, which imis't
dentiy tend to etnharps4 and deteriorate the tele.

vant tneainres to be adopted. In that view of the
question., he should feel that be was -not acting
consistently with his public duty, if be made'any
answer to the particular questions di, the Noble
Earl at preient,, or entered into any further ek-
planationa.' Rut he hoped the' 'flay was. not far
distant, when be may havean opportunity•of
ing what the general state of the 'relations' of the
cc uuthr were with Foreign powerS, and the nature
oftheengagemetitt subsisting with there Powe.is.
The Noble .Earl knew there Wis a particJilar pe-
riod of the Session when such ,topics regularly
came tinder consideration,. and he should hope,
that until the arrival of that period, no explana-
tion of the kind would be required. On that oe7
crelon ,they .would he afforded ; or if that should
not he,the case, suaicient grounds should.he stated
for the farther withholding them.
coNuma OF THE WAR.

The Order-of the day upon which their Lord-
ships were summoned being read,'
The Earl of : DONLEY observedi. that their
LOrdShip:could scarcely suppose it possible, that,
in the interval between his- first notice for hring-
ing fOrward this iMportant subject, and the Mo-
m:tit of. its discussion, events should have occur-
red that Still further evinced the necessity of the
House adopting some steps with respect to it. In
this he alluded principally to the losS .of sonic of
his Majesty's ships of war. Their Lordships
would recollect the events that took place not
long before', as Well as since, the loss of the Java.
With respect to the cOnduct of hostiliti6s against
America, he contended, the papers laid by Mini-
sters theniselirns upon the -table would stew that
they must be long aware.of the hostile spirit of
that country, and that from their conduct, war
was unavoidable. To the documents alluded to by
his Lordship,•he copiously referred, and read a
variety of extracts, especially from the letters of,
and communications with Mr. Monroe; with a
slew of establishing the above position. The pro-
minent feature -in the conduct of Ministers,- as in.'.
'ducing'the rupture, .he characterised the Orders
in Council. • He then proceeded to censure the
conduct of the war with, respect to America, NV Hal-
either,ift the military or the Unita' line, he insist-
ed was not adequate to its object, though he gave .
the illustrious' person at the head of the army am-:
pie credit for his'exertiMis in induCing its present
state of discipline and. perfection. With respect
to the naval operations,,however, he contended,
that neither in point of number, distribution, br
the 'quality M the vessels employed, were they
such as, the nature and exigence of the ease re-
quired. 'So early as July -,1811 were Ministers
formed by those who were adequate judges of the
subject-,--that an American war was inevitable
and it' was urged to theth, that if an adequate na-
val force was timely dispatched to the coast of
America, no ship .within could then have' left their-
ports, or any without 'could have escaped capture.
Respecting the force and strengthof the. mt,tch-
talked of American shipOf war the Constitution,
it was for a long period cruising in. the Channel,
and he believed at time even in the Downs.—
Ministers must have known her size andstrength;,
nay; the Lord 'Warden of the Cinque Ports might
have-counted her guns from the battlements of
Waliner Castle was in -proof, from the state-.
ments of official documents, there was no deficien-
cy 'of zeal, 'cOurage, or energy, in the
Navy: no deterioration in those respects ; the re-
Verses- were attributable to the mismanagement'
of these Who had the direction of the national force.
The-Java, at the time that she was taken, had on
board 98 ahle seamen ; and so Much was Captain
Lambert convinced of the inefficacy of crew,
that lie entertained no very great hopes of 'success
in the action. • It -had appeared to him to be a.
singular fact, that in all the actions that had taken-
place between our ships and..:the Americans, our
frigates had been dismasted in a very short time ;
the only reason:which be could assign for this,
Was, that the masts of the British ships were not
very thick, and the shot of the enemy being very
large, it was more apt to take effect-, on act:Mint
of the -size of the mast. The next point to Which,
be alluded was the depredation which had been
committed on our trade by the American pri‘'a
Leers.. If an • inadequate forec.had been provided
for the purpose of preventing the American pri-
vateers from ptitting'to sea, the list of the cap-
tures made by the Americans would not have
been swelled to the enormous such of of 306,001.
as, he had reason to believe from the Most authen-
tic information 'wh ich he could prOcure on the sub-
ject, was the amount of the' captures made- by
time Americans. He then-alluded to the impOrta-:
tion of American cotton; Which be characterized
as a most impolitic measure ; and, he expreised
his surprise that Ministers should :ever have al-
lowed it, though he was happy to hear that it had
by theni been stopped. Another extensive and im-
portant branch of the subject into which he could'
not at that time enter. so - largely as lie wished,
was -the state of the Dock-yards in the kingdom. •
Alluding to the Navy Board, 'he complained that
it was composed of a set of men who were'soex-
tremely obstinate, that nothing could indtice them
to adopt any improvement suggested to them; so
great and so inveterate was their adherence to old:
priiiciples.' Ile did not mean -that they should
listem to every .projector who approached theta .
with ticheuxes
,and., plans, for that could not con
duce to the puhlia'advautage ; but When any thing
was suggested to a public board, which was ma,-
sonable in itself, certainly it was proper to give it
a fair trial. .He believed that he had shewn that
his Majesty's Ministers, with the .prospect of a
War, bud not taken proper means for carrying it
on ; -and when it was , begun, bad conducted it
tardily anct!neffeetually, and bad never provided
an adequate force. Unless his Majesty's' Ati.
nisters could. prove that the co,ivepie of his pro_
positiou was the case, and that they bad taken
proper and effectual means , for the protection of
the trade, surely merchants' had a right to- expect
that the matter .was worthy the interference of
parliament. He had brought forward 'the clues-.
tion with reluctance, and only becauseno other.
Noble Lord had taken upon himself- that ;task.
If the Noble Lords oppoSite could prove that the
converse of his proposition
,was the case, even
then he should think that it was his datrto have.
agitated the question, and that ,he was rightist
having brtnight it forward, although he knew that
Ninisters haul sonic advantage from the geberat
poranotou which always exiits,• that the peroohs

In power are always f4:inse who are most fit for the
execution of the duties of office ; 'yet Parliament
Was',not to sit still, while all those.faets which he
;had stated were staring them in the' face. He
`MoVed therefore--:--
".That a COmmittee he appointed toinquireinto the mode-
in which the war with the United States lilts been conducted;
andindre particularlyinto the management and dialiosal
,-the naval forces of the kingdiim !during the last year."
Lord MELvittx, trtiateic that notwithstanding
the.ebafidence -with 'which the Noble Lord had
urged the different positions which.he bad stated,
it would be in his power to spew, that the Noble
Lord was not warranted in the 'expectation which
'he had entertained, that the' Muse would *secede
tp. his motion, the Noble Lord had;begon bystat-
iug something,with respect to
.thes rehitiVe situa-
tions of this country and America,,previons. to the
declaration of War : would
.not say nmomy On
that subject than that this country .had been forced
into the war. Ail th4t was connected With the
state of affairs previous to that, hating been on a
foYmer occasion the subject of diseussion before
their Lordships it was needles.; for hint to repeat.
lie should therefore• confine' himself, to the consis
der !tion of the way in which the Ivor had beep
conducted. Befome entering upon that, however,
he would say a:few words as, to the expectations
which had been entertained as',to the- probability
of a declaration of war, He was prepared to tot-
!mit, that some time befbre the war broke out, and
before he filled that 'office Which ist` that time he'
had the honour of holding, there undoubtedly was
very great reason to appreheod that a war would
take place. .But he wished their Lordships to re-
. collect what orris the universal language which had
been held after Me Orders in council were repeal-
ed, When he said this, he did not intend it as then
only answer which he would give to the Noble
Lord on that subject. Ile_ merely wished their
Lordships to bear in mind, that at the time of the
repeal of the OrdersH in Council, there. was a ge-
neral expectation that the war would be prevented.
'About the particular cause of the war, and wbe..
'timer it was-the Orders is Councils be should only
say, that if.they had been the,camme, the war ought
long-ago to have ceased. The truth-being that the
war Was one for our maritiMe existence, and of
'course. for our national modependence.-s--Arpro-
tested against the 'doctrine of the Noble Lord,
that' •it was ,the. duty ,of .; Govenunent
have been ready with a sufficient 7 force
on the Coast of America, to hlOckade the whole
.of the ports of the United, States and, :in fact,.
to have done that .before tbeCommeheeirmentof
the, war, which could only be ejcpeeted 'when the
tear had been •foe some time continued. The
duty of .Government Was, to have always a forgo
prepared, which silo* be Snfficient to check the
,American navy, ,aud, torprcifect the- British trade.
The ianestioo.then cline to be, whether this had
been done ? And., herd it was necessary tci say,
that. in carrying, on the War, it
:had been the duty'
of Ministers, at every possible risk, to curtail the
extent .ofi naval preparations ; atacl this, .for %the_
purpose of giving.full scone and ;hill latitude for
.exertions where aorts were more necessary, :and
could be more effectual, It was, therefore, the
'.duty of Government to keep
,the naval forge of,
the country within the least poSsible bounds.• The.
Niiple Lord had, however said; that -ships might. hair been :taken away from the blockading
sclua-
drons for the purpose of being more effectually,
and beneficially employed upon: the coast .of A-
merica. ThiS.was, in the first place, styposing
that the forces. on these stations were more than
was. absolutely, necessary. The fact,' hOwever,
was, that ever since the commeneeemenrof the
Aifierican war, instead of subtracting
,Irom the;
force of our blockading sqandrons, it had been
found 'necessary to' have them conaiderahly aug-
mented, end this .becauie the enemy''s force in the:
ditlereut . ports bad, been very much increased.
,Within the. period to which .he had Minded,
namely, the duration of the American war, -the
naval ,foree of..the enemy had been increased: by
more than 20 ships.; and in almostevery case time
number of ships in the port of the enemy:was au-
poior to the blockading. fleet. Was,thiS then the
time at whiCh to diminish any blockading fleets, l
Their Lordships
,most allow tltat it'would Mitre,
been unjustifiable to.htive takenfrom any of these-
squadrons, even one single ship. He would next
adVert to the season at. which the Athericans-had
made their declaration .0: war. War was of course
proclaimed by the Americans at the season when
they found it most tit so to do ; and if was done
at that time when all the British ships were
dispatched .to their differeat stations.--'The force 'I
which • had been allotted for the American sta-
tion had been detached, and it was impossible im-
mediately to increase it, on account of the at-,
rangement .which had been made' of all tbedis-
pbsable force. The questhio, under-.
.stood, to. be, this—whether the capture.Ofithree of
his Majesty's 'ships, could nave beiri:prevented,
and whether their capture afforded cOustitullooal
ground .for inquiry ? Were the two points
on which be would most particularly insist, • The
Noble Lord :had said,: that. the force :upon the
American station, befOre the ot, war,
was not adequate--=but; how ,did ,the AmeriCanS
act,/ They escaped . from their- barbonts bebtiri
they. declared 'War. Would the: N6l.kles Lord then,
pretend to_say,.:thitt if there had.lieen'()Litionger
naval force upon the ctuistof.Ainericea,the navy:
of the United .States could have'lrele.prevented•
from putting to sea,? The object of 'thcAmeri-
cans.was to go after our convoys, and, to make
depredations on our trade. They They wetit
after the. Jamaica fleet, feirin, with one naval
force, and by them they -were chased, though
they made their escape.. 'lf.the British force upon.
the American strition,had bein inad.tquate, the'
American navy, instead of flYing before. it, Would
have :sought for it ;' and for the interest, and glory
of their country it would have been their duty.th
have fought. it,: instead. of being chased, The
LOrd asked how_ came:the Guerriere to be
taken
,? That ship was: cruising in comPany. with
a line of 'battleship, from, which the was sepa-
rated in a gale of wind, immediately after Which
she fell in with .the enemy, by Whom she was
taken, after a most gallant resistance. When a.
ship was. thus, by a. gale of wind, separated front.
her consort, and then fell, in with an Cleiny of su-
perior ,force, to, tvlioni she 'Was obliged to yield
'after a bloody though unSuccessfulemitest,because
dais
v as rif I,7c.imt
i:lasainrattel
ooflamentation, was it •to be
u
the measures Of, Crovern..;

IL

ment were tardy and ineffectual'? 'Oh i but, said`
the Noble Lord, you might have blockaded !be
ports of the United States. The Nobly bard had
said more than any Naval Officer woull ha'
: bike to do ; fora ivas impossible to blockadthe
,
American harbours at all seasons, and 11139 Y h°'
them 'could-not be blockaded at all. Er" tmc
ports of Francei which front their nature are more
capable .of being blockaded, and where 01 .
blockading squadrons Were stationed, could
-lie so effectually secured as to completely prere'.l
the escape Of privateers, who fake oar nirrcloil
,-
vesseli close to the British But itioretlo!.
'all this, the Noble Lord had gone so far, ai O: !
tbal such and such a number of ships and fido','
would have been perfectlysufticient fo blockas
titiilltlteicilittilmitaerigieerailiviiiiasrib.ebquuriss.:l;enn
ileiepivb at: said this
lie said that Which no officer could admit, for :
Observations of the Noble Lord, be tvotii6k,,ri
iii check,
done? the Citeiny had bee'', Te,
ryi .arid this from what lie had' said 14`1'Itt
.riod of the War, was perfectly suiliclotle
and wll Ihat.'eould- he espected. Ihe Nr,::. 3,
Lord had adverted ,to the 'ol'i) other captures,
Which -h.td- been Made -by the Awerieic,i, 31.'0,i, II
'tartystate.d that.the eir driatiolicet witht‘ of
they
.were,attelidtti,:hiia reflected no le" °lmil
ul)"", the offi 'Cers *Ad crors'of these. shirctl° t,
tautened .to the 6tirrierc. 'Bat 11' rd''rea,iat
title blockade. - Perhaps the Noble I,'" 1:::, „p
.t
ilat the „American ships shoitlil hare bee 11) i; Oa,
in their portS, or, as lie lOW eqres'''
,jj'ho'e
the harl,niurs
.01 the United States hioit be rz.
been het ibetieally Sealed ; 'aga;tr'ana 4'T Ittl hi
Pentetli'k was impossible. The Nohl:'' irtitop:.e
.power-of
tsh.
ration.toaai ieli:tll 1 ,:%‘
nn. . -or.
1:,1:.1'00)i i
ttati..,
:et.
a.iei:i
it,cf:-
oavaort thest
saila.tAitsli,sfiaise:rAati
l'eticiliiiiiiliixecet
iyr:it4nteo,t;alitdl:ll,l:ll;l;.))ti,cii,se:%l.:,
or;
sli
irise,
eel
,iii
iiiitii:lic„iititi:!ll,..ll.ll,e,((:ll,,,..er..,
iieri,trsitia,,,),strltilitcitiio.,! ,
the
of War, a.force sutiieient to I)3:fe 0,114 Ig:
•Gig.2.slo:(xt•leb:triali tlsi:letitQl:ptlits'ilt:haits 'scvotittlandt country bteacki.le:4.B'°: s.(l' fcit're'r;
blivntitin:o:lbvaehrele. It would have been -ilecc-s'ioe'll
aVe sent out :the Admiral with the (li'',le',liiiig
commencing the war. At the 'cc' • f►•
a "'..,'
when ever y *effort ' was snaking to :vv:l.-0,
c.:::...0:
ialol'otiricee:'sbffitheiee.Ylitcatilde(lb'llTCknadte ll°
?.--I.'''':
''i'd"'
i
Arneilea" Ports i and this too at the Yee)",:i,hef :
when
,they were' striving to she'V the tl e,r,,, his-
the nation was to avoid a war, anti that
.`,.10-3.4 01,,
positions 'of the nation were anticaile, it_i'if Dui
..The next point : was,:oviiiiietitbic:se,iot,.(:;
tPltl'eweCarpfetluirbekiktabdeinfirsitgitSilaidsTinpsha4 11°11.'1" bees
.prevented ? • Was it to- be . sapposeda tj °'lio'l
blockading; s iladron, however l'Cn'erfAti ' cohl 4,
ever SuiNcientlifor the purposes of bi°ClCtillea'st
vita
prevent:a frigate, on her voyage to tile fri
lies, 'froth falling is %vitt! an. Ameei';', r}:00
°,' : superior -force, which , wits at ee lea Hiii(le
'Ham 'Statement which the' NP
oblc )r" ,pd th't
on.the ih;
the ship
subject of the crew of the P': ,op ciyr
.%_"C .tVaS unfit for action, he wool" ),;(11'6,)!,i., :
'and
the Java ,was in most exceleP
~c`:.o" lie ,11:- ,
'Lind if another ship was at that ivoiPl,,,dig,t,tl4 '
,patched to the East inches, he if ortil'ec;cio4
\E!!.t.,,Y.s'atne measures for the seleeth;,: °Java. til•
:
uilding ships* of illtiiiti.:tploisei:::,',:::::::,;,:rie,etttlitith,.,,i,ii.,:"o:::: :1,„
can frigates, all naval nien "ere T'.• focres4 kA.
nunioer• of classes, Siii a.ippos.9 1„.1(l bee% -'
0 cneven: b‘ieriej,
ceistianearizglsiloeidnoce)f,ff ait.vrhliiiicla;t:ttal:::::iicei:.
jEtelb,.,l,le,:iirtc
the
iciole:::,ttpr,toi:44::,eciiiiE.'e: 1
otoivin;.bv'tll;:odoei: thingt,
itl
ilhitl‘i.ii.li:sibiilh":9ofs fit:1111°11:"14:eof t he same class‘v ill' 'ld theill''''
tainly they could not have prevefue" Noble ''') ~l
:I'l'l‘chac'eth(saids.rto nia i i . --- Brit
undelst-tha
of
sh ips wl4iilc'eli Pmr-eerveetfilttettel fitted ir'ietiti,°wsger4)ef ilt;l:te, 11;I:ecil:1').1'ecrdit;:c1:.!
them t )
scribed by the Noble Lord Whenhe h (.0t sbios 21!
than ffigates, ttiey. :Were univerlallYtot 01,0 01: :.
b.e '4911i generally, serviceable and ii 41001,1 4.'1,
other description of ships. ' Al lie sk of lialiV.
t,shhcii,i of that c;ll.leasNs' vbbutielt 1.
's°vl:l:9 tPijis'!'4l:soc!;:lie`:"l;!
.f3ilismAlviat'inut'aileit reirl7:loU:i:iit:ifts;ra ',: '
"itmlknetion into - our navY ()I 3nY'vivai • WI- .
her of ships of that deScription as,lo. at v-310.':,,.
isabt 9icracii.(ec:Lneese,a::::,:isittgte4litfiiiiutiyipli:trituntw.ide:teei
tntrel,:c.oarel.ft:l%l.:aa.
ta.is!ividleaT3b:pluyleocie.)ll:iNiclioya:pti}:::a,:evicii,;litili:c,n)o.::crl.,;(;jici:o:bll'ie,,6ii,l,,lo,,t;'s'il:llle:.,
ships, that is,, of gimp's 'of war, tke., it.%) At 011Ite
service at' that time: This was said t°4 foal
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tllitqplernealtiletiocnosinopfliti.Anetutletibicaatot.ria;iestueffeerr:),.crocjitelici,'
ships -of that descriikiou Were the -01°4,,,,„t the 'ji '
; for the protection of iradittg. vtlsels I..s';`" 0,111,
ut)yanee-of -' FriVitteer. s, and, Of e""1 , 't of he
~-• Cour .1 ti .
would-be. mbst uniustifiable'in atiY 1400 ~,itle
miralty to- cause the smallest dituin,ullie•->l3oc,
Naval Force Of thiit -descriPtitib* . 1, tlid,,,il
Lord had said, that- the sinew's bY
ricans wereenabled to support the wiry 00 t''
ricans :
strengthetied. All that lie- Stlotilii.slilio "ticlli
subject -wasl,That they were, in passe 0. .0. iba .
' counts which stated, that the, case
1";:solt.t,o‘ '.
the reverse. As 'to the balance of cy„,,, voe,
' Noble-Lortl was very far mlituke° *-„'t: the •oid ..
'
aid, that the balance was iii favour of "'w-4
ricans.--[Loril Dafnley, ac:ross 'the 01 c,,iile
that, be had -said st).3-7-The balance too, „0,
was much in faVour of Great 13ritain• :, 10(i'',, '
en 11' ibe i '
Lord. wa§ pm-reedy mistaken wli of le
hn [S 011 I
that the complaints of the I%teec"--° were biec
sugiciency of protection :to 'the trade,
that ovrif
roes and loud. ' The' best pro", 1,11, NulliCfrod
was the rate of insurance'; and " t II have ,00e
ou ( ooly g
had made inquiries at 4loyd's II ''ii es wio -404?
the rate of'insurance to thoyest Jut
coolieo‘rtible ,
per cent. higher than -befot-e ti.lie..,6oatruve, e 01'
of the War. This :Was it progt If' -fleo ' 'l.l°
litimencseuitlittnehiel;lolef Noble
that iv ~, tr
Lord)! , lnd'. col
was duty.estimatids,htilP)
appear comparatively small. . ,I, , ,
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lutioliec
had stated that the Ante.ri---,.; (t letter' 'to% big
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numbtbce
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~ees
oislbei 5e2i,,,,,,
,rlk,
arrived so early as July, 570 t.L.,;1,-,, a Oct°, t oil rni
were not issued before the mulTe Lord t101,40.1'!",
was his duty to remind tiie Nob' *he d,oto
30th July orders were issued- ""
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