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London, England, 1849-02-24 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

ROUSE OF LORDS, Feb. 23.
divi The'LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool-
4ack at, Five o'clock.
33rD: TRANSPORTATION.
calls The Duke of RICHMOND asked whether it was in-
tarteeded entirely to break up the female convict establish-
Strgraent on board the Anson, and to distribute the convicts
Viejo the colonies?-
`1- Earl GREY said the establishment of the Anson was
Staintirely the act of the Executive.,Government of the day,
4041,nd he did not think the Government would be justified
$0 in delaying the -distribution of the female convicts on
fortroard the Anson to the colony. The authorities had all
he reported that the establishment on board the Anson had
thefailed in accomplishing the object for which it had been
in 'established, and had recommended that the convicts
7shoulcl at once be distributed in the colony. Since that
iincreport had been received another bad been received
recommending that the establishment on board the Anson
etis6hould be immediately broken up. They would there-
puifore be distributed among the colonists, and a peniten-
Inogary would be established at Ross in the centre of the island
color the reception and reformation of refractory female con-
peleicts. It was impossible to keep up proper discipline on
theooard a crowded hulk; and he was, moreover, of opinion
terpiat all reformatory efforts as far as regarded convicts
should be made in this country before their deportation.
the Lord STANLEY asked if the Noble Earl had called
ihilpon the superintendent of the Anson for any explana-
tion he had to offer, and he should also like to know the
dirgrounds stated by the persons, making the inspection of
the Anson, on which they grounded the report?
side Earl GREY referred the Noble Earl to the reports
Plithemselves, which were in the library. He had not re-
agferred those reports to the female superintendent of the
to Anson, because there was no charge brought against her
Mina nagement.
EABEAS CORPUS SUSPENSION (IRELAND)
it BILL.
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The Marquis of
,LANSDOWNE moved the second
reading of the Habeas Corpus Suspension (Ireland)
Bill. The grounds on which the Government proposed
this measure had been so fully stated in the dispatch of
the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, which had been laid on
their Lordships' table, that he could not do bettor than
refer their Lordships to that dispatch for those reasons.
But, although the efforts of those who had conspired
systematically to raise a rebellion in Ireland—a rebellion
which had been rendered abortive solely through the
energy of the Lord-Lieuteamat in exercising the powers
which bad been entrusted to him by Parliament, the
ease with which, in consequence of the exercise of
those powers, the rebellion had been put down, could no
more be brought forward es an argument against
this measure than could the salvation of a building
from destruction by lightning by means of a conductor
be brought forward as an argument against the further
use of that conductor. The present conduct of those
who had .been. leaders ,in this rebellion proved the
necessity of the continuation of this measure.
One of the rebel chiefs who had escaped
to Nov 10;1k had declared what were, and
are, the intwaione of those who had been engaged
in the rebellion. At a public meeting held in New
York, Mr. Doheny, whO had been one of the rebel
chiefs 'Lee', ere al i.eais sees nO C'!“.541 to despair
et • •e: 01' !•;)- triele Moaentent, the; heti
:a,' e eeneiree of the Go:ern:went to
e peeve- ,e.e et
ecieeoeerseet, ,tit was for the piesrat
fatal to thr- vallee of Ireland. The crisis had bean
precipitate by the suspension of the Habeas Corpus
Act, which gave them no chance of consultation. In
one district there had been forged 20,000 pikes. He
added, "we are still strong, we are still turbulent, and
either Ireland shall be a tree republic, or our turbulence
shell be interminable. England's ruin may be delayed,
but ites inevitable, and then Ireland shall be a republic
one and indivisible." Coupling these declarations of
Mr. Doheney with the report of the. Lord-Lieutenant,
he thought their Lordships would be of opinion that it
was necessary that this suspension of the Habeas Corpus
Act should be continued tor some time longer; but
while this temporary suspension was indispensable, he
admitted it was the bounden duty of the Legislature
to devise measures for the improvement of the social
state of the Irish people.
Lord BROUGHAM entirely agreed with the motion.
his only doubt was whether it went far enough.—
(Hear.) Who could venture to say that in
a certain time there would be an end of Irish
rebellion? The agitation which bad been con-
tinued so long had brought the greatest evils
on Ireland; it had prevented capital from going into
Ireland, and had at length forced them to suspend the
constitution. All Governments had been guilty of great
neglect in allowing agitation to go on until it came to
so great a height that it was impossible to stop it. The
government of the Noble Marquis (Anglesey) was loss
open to that reproach than that of any other governor.
They bad all sorts of agitators there—lay and clerical
—who drove the most profitable trade driven in the
country. If the Government allowed the trade of agi-
tation to become a lucrative trade, could they wonder
that there had grown up a race of sordid seditious
agitators? This agitation had , been the ruin of the
country. He had heard of the case of a family
who had received no rents for two years, and who had
been reduced to such poverty that they had passed
Christmas eve without• food, and on Christmas-day
had been saved from starvation by a present, which had
enabled them to have some gruel. And yet in
this country as here no rents were paid, it is said
on account of the poverty of the tenants, where
no rates could be collected, 1,0901. had been collected—for
the use cf the poor? Nol but to send to the Pope, to
his Holiness the Pope, who had commenced this agitation
in Italy, and who was now reaping the fruits of his
labours. -He was sorry for him. This money was collected
through the instrumentality of the agitating Catholic
priests to be sent to this foreign Bishop to be spent by
bim among the faithful by whom he was surrounded at
Gaeta.—(Criee of "Hear, hear.") Then they
bad recently had a case in Dublin of a juryman
getting up in the box to applaud a speeck of counsel.
Why a country in which such an indecency could take
place- was no more fit for trial by jury than the interior
of Africa. Mr. Burke- had dishonoured a respect-
able name by conduct which would have disgraced
an inhabitant of a krall of Hottentots. This person
had sworn well and truly to try the cause, and he had
been scarcely in the box when he exhibited a disposi-
tion to violate his oath—Mr. Shelburne Burke, he was
sorry to find thatthis man had brought disgrace upon
the name of the Noble Marquis opposite also, had by his
conduct produced an effect upon the witnesses, and he
(Lord Brougham) could not help expressing his indig-
nation at the indecent conduct of this man. He con-
cluded by urging upon the Government the necessity of
a vigorous administration of the law.
Lord MONTEAGLE thought the limitation
of the Bill to six months was in opposition to
the ' recommendation of Lord Clarendon, and not
equal to the neceeiities of the case. He thought it
impolitic to risk the necessity of the introduction of
another Bill of this nature at the conclusion of the ses-
sion. He should have- preferred that the measure of
suspension should have been for a lugger period. The
failure of justice in conseqstence of the improper
conduct of jurors had a tendency totoy bring the
administration of justice into contempt, but those trans-
actions were not applicable to the whole of Ireland.
In Monster no such indecent scenes had taken place, the
juries did their duty with manliness, impartiality, and
courage. The Noble Lord then proceeded to argue that it
was absolutely necessary to impose by legislative enact-
ment some restraint upon the pessession of arms in Ireland,
Since times anterior to the Union, the law now fur the
first time suffered persons to have the unrestrained pos-
seien of areas in Ireland. It was true domiciliary visits
did not take place by the poice, but they took place by
ribbondmen, and by disturbers of the public peace,
who robbed all those entitled to the possession of arms
of their arms ; and however unpopular it might be,
he
the say that some alteration ought to take place
in e law for the purpose of preventing improper per-
sons from possessing arms.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE replied, and the Bill
was read a second time.
TURNPIKES.
The Marluis of SALISBURY moved for certain re-
turns relating to turnpike trusts and hiieway-rates.
After a few words from the Earl of RANVILLE and
the Duke of RicamoND,-the motion was agreed to, and
their Lordships adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS. Feb. 23.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
SECOND READINGS.
The following Railway Bills were read a second time;
Birmingham and Oxford Junction (Purchase of the Strat-
ford-upon-Avon Canal Navigation).
Forest of Dean and South %Vales (Amendment of Acts as
to Charges on Forest of Dean Railway and Branches—No.2).
North Staffordshire (Amendment of Acts).
Stirling and Dunfermline (Deviation of Bnc
rah to Allot'
Harbour.; Diversion of certain Works; Extensiono
off Time
for completing Line and taking Land; and Amendment
,Acts).
The undernamed Bills were likewise read a second time:
Great Central Gas Consumers' Company.
Musselburgh Police and Improvement.
Norfolk Estuary (Amendment of Acts and Powers of Con-
tribution by the Eau Brink Commissioners of Drainage, and
by the Corporation of King's Lynn).
Bock Life Assurance Company.
. SECEDING CLERGYMEN.
Mr. P. HOWARD presented a petition from Carlisle
praying for full civil and religious liberty to seceding
clergymen.
Mr. V. SMITH presented a petition to the same effect.
Mr. BRIGHT presented a similar petition from Ash-
ton-under-Lyme and another place.
VENTILATION OF THE NEW:HOITSES:OF