The Sun.
London, England, 1831-10-17 00:00:00

consequence of the rejection of- the Reform Bill,
that people suspended their orders unless in cases
of absolute necessity. Fur these urgent considera•

Lions, we strongly press Ministers not to prorogue
Parliament beyond the beginning of December, if so
long. It would be easy to support this view of thesub-
ject, by particular as well as general reasons; but the
fact is so self-evident, that we refrain for the present,
under the conviction that Ministers will do, as they
have hitherto done—their utmost to secure the con-
fidenceof the country, which is at present unbounded,
in their patriotism, ability, and honest intentions.
The Reform Bill once passed, England will be her-
self again !—but never till then.

As the day of proroguing Parliament mainly de-
pends on passing the Bankruptcy Court Bill, we
earnestly recommend to Ministers not to tolerate a
continuance of the harefaced opposition lately dis-
played by the factious jugglers for delay. Their
object is wholly to defeat the Bill, and nothing but
persevering firmness can carry the measure through.

The great point of interest with the country now
is—by what means is the triumph of the Reform
Bill next Session to be secured ? Is the Govern-
ment determined to create a sufficiency of Peers pro
hoc vice, or can it rely upon the invigorated force of
public opinion, as strong enough to drive the Bill
through the House of Incurables ? The country is
naturally full of anxiety to know the line of policy
that is to be adopted.
In the event of manifest necessity, the Govern-
ment would betray the trust reposed in it by the
nation, if it permitted any scruples on the score of
the degradation of the Peerage, to prevent the crea-
tion of as many new Legislators as will carry the
point. It is no doubt an evil to add to the House
of Lords, whose members are already inconveniently
numerous, and exceed the due proportion (usually
considered to be one-half) which a second ought to
bear to a first chamber. There is, besides, a very
natural reluctance in a Reforming Government to
do any thing that may seem to desecrate or dishonour
one House of Parliament, for the sake of the purifi•
cation of the other. But if it comes to a choice of
evils, there can be no comparison between any such
inconveniences as those we have alluded to, and the
dreadful mischief that would ensue upon a second
rejection of the Bill. We wilt not dwell upon the
effects of such a calamity, because it is perfectly ob •
vious that it would bring to an end the government
of King, Lords, and Commons, under which we live.
The present rumour in official circles is, that there
have already been recantations of Opposition Lords,
and that many more are anticipated. There appears,
therefore, some probability that the necessity for
new creations may not be so urgent as was at first
supposed, or, at least, that a moderate batch may
answer the purpose. But we warn the Ministers,
that by listening too readily to professions of con-
version, they may place the country in peril, for
they have to deal with the most cunning arid wily
of mankind. We fear and mistrust the borough-
jobbers, et dons ferentes, and would neither accept
from them any pledges, or make with them any
terms, short of their voting for " the Bill, the whole
Bill, and nothing but the Bill."
It is, indeed, something marvellous that the Peers,
in general, are so blind to the jeopardy in which
their order stands. Can any reasonable being look
at the abolition of the Hereditary Peerage in France,
and say, that in any event, it is secure of a perma-
nent footing in England ? According to the Duke of
WELLINGTON the Reform Bill is the child of the
French revolution, and, however this may be, it is
notorious that no important political event in either
country is without its action in the other. Nothing
is more difficult to answer than the simple question,
why hereditary legislation should be a bad thing in
one nation, and a good thing in another. By the late
event, the people have beet, led into discussions and
reflections upon the principles of Government, and
into inquiries, whether the system of hereditary
legislation has been found, to promote the public
interest, and fulfil the public wishes. The House
of Lords would at this moment not be endured, if
it did not happily contain a fair proportion of men
with enlightened minds and patriotic feelings, whose

character and influence serve to diminish the odium of
the general body. It is the liberal Peers who enable
the betes to preserve their rank and station, for they
satisfy the people that there is some good in the
assembly, however unreasonable may be the prin-
ciple of its composition. The perpetuity of the
body depends, then, upon its good behaviour, its
term of authority is quarndiu se bene gesserit—and if
its general conduct for the ten years to come, should
not be more judicious than it has been for the ten
years past, the consequences will be easily dis-
cernible by those who can read the signs of the
times. There cannot be a more striking sign or
warning to the Peerage of England, than what has
just happened to the Peerage of France, and if our
Nobles mark it not, we may be sure " that neither
would they be persuaded, though one rose from the
dead." One thing is certain, that whether by fair
means or foul, Ministers must subdue the Oligarchy
before they have done. The means are in their dis-
cretion, but since they hold in their hands the power,
they must answer to the country, if they fail for want
of exercising that power. Provided the Bill is past
with all speed, the people are indifferent whether
any, or bow many Peers, are generated ; but Reform
they will have, and are, therefore, anxious to know
by what course it is to be made to reach them.

The fillgeincine Zcitung says, that the neutral,
territory of Cracow, winch General RUDIGER at
present occupies with 4,000 men, will zhortly be
evacuated by the greater part of those troops, and
the stipulations contained in the act of the Congress
of Vienna be carried into effect, conformably to the

treaties entered into by the joint intervention of the
three Powers. Nothing was known of the place
of abode of General SKRZYNECKI and Prince CZAR-

TORYSKI.

By a letter which appears in that spirited journal
the Belfast Northern Wig, and which, we learn, has
been sent off to the LORI) CHANCELLOR, a complete

answer is given to the recent assertions of the Mar_
quis of LONDONDERRY, that the :nore respectable
and influential inhabitants of Belfast are, in general,
indifferent to the success of the Reform Bill. We
trust we shall hear no more of these absurd misre-
presentations.

A Cabinet Council was held this day at the
Foreign-office in Downing-street, which was at-
tended by the LORD CHANCELLOR, Earl GREY, the
Marquis of LANSDOWNE, Lord ALTHORP, Lord
MELBOURNE, the Earl of CARLISLE, Lord HOL-
LAND, Lord PALMERSTON, the Duke of RICHMOND,
the Right Honourable CHARLES GRANT, and Mr.
STANLEY.

The Belgian Minister had an interview with Lord
PALmERsToN at the Foreign-office.

Despatches were received this morning at the
Foreign-office from Paris.

SUN OFFICE, Half-past Three.

We have just received the following, which con-
firms the appearance of the cholera at Hamburg :

HAYBURG, OCT. 11.—An official notice has just been
published by the General Gmotnission of Health, announc-
ing that, from the morning of the 7th until one o'clock
in the afternoon of this day, 21 individuals (14
men and seven women) have been attacked by the symp-
tutus supposed to be those of tl e Asiatic cholera. Nine
of the twenty-one have died within from six to twenty-
four hours after being taken ill; twelve are still receiving
medical assistance. To the hospitals eleven have been
taken, of whom two have died.
BoaseN FOUR O'CLOCK.-0111' Stock Market
was animated to-day. In Russian and Austrian Funds a
good deal was done. Discount 5 per cent.
End of October.

Anglo-Danish Loan 3 per Cent.
Anglo-Russian Loan BB%
Hamburg-Russian Loan B2

Russian Inscriptions, 5 per Cent.
Russian Inscriptions, 1831.
Polish Bonds ... lO2
Austrian Bank Shares 960
___.

Ditto Metalliques
New Austrian 4 per Cents
PETERSBURG Is, SEPT. 30.—Tie journals contain va-
rious promotions and recompenses given by the Emperor,
chiefly to generals and other officers in the army in Poland.
Among others, the English physicians Russel and Berry
have received the order of St. Anne, of the second class, for
their ze tlous attention to the patients attacked with cholera.

CHOLERA.
. _. New cases. Recovered. Deaths.
Sept. '27 0 ... 2
29 lO ... 2 ... 3
29 7 ... 0 .. 2
0
Remain 24, of whom four are likely to. recover.

Since the commencement 9,029 persons have been at-
tacked, of whom 4,623, rather more than one half, have
died.

BERLIN CHOLERA.
New cases. Recoveries.

Deaths.

Oct. 9 '27 14
1u 36 12
There remain 145.
No farther accounts from Poland.

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ENCIIiNGE ON LONDON.
HAMBURG, OCT. 11, 137 ; tw•o months, 13. 5%.
BERIAN,Our. 6.—Three months, 6. 2.5!i.
ST. PE CLESBURGIL, SEPT. 30, 11.47-GL.

BIRMINGHAM POLITICAL UNION.

The following petition to the House of Commons was
adopted at a meeting of the Political Council, on Thursday
night, and yesterday transmitted to Mr. O'Connell, for
presentation :
" The petition of the Council of the Birmingham Poli-
tical Union, to the Honourable the Commons of Great
Britain and Ireland, in Parliament assembled,
" Humitt,v SHOWETII-1. That your petitioners have
no words to express the alarm, astonishment, and disgust,
which the conduct of the majority of the House of Lords,
in rejecting the Bill of Reform, has scattered throughout
the country.
" 2. That no arguments which your petitioners can
use, can induce the mass of the people to believe that the
House of Lords have merely exercised a constitutional
right. The people believe that the House of Lords hare
no right whatever to interfere in am; way in the elections
of Members for your Honourable House ; and when they
perceive the House of Lords presuming to reject a mea-
sure, which has merely reference to the manner in which
the people shall choose their representatives in your
Honourable House—which has been sanctioned by Iris
Majesty, adopted by your Honourable House, and enthu-
siastically approved by an overwhelming majority of the
nation, estimated either in numbers or in property—when
the people perceive the House of Lords presuming con-
temptuously to reject a measure of this kind, it is totally
useless to endeavour to persuade them that such rejection
is not an act of tyranny.
_ _ _

"3. That one of the consequences of this extraordinary
conduct in the House of Lords, is a sudden contraction of
credit and confidence, and a stagnation of trade and of
industry ; which, occurring at a period of general depres-
sion and distress, threatens shortly to throw the whole
population of the country out of employment.
" 4. That to Fee and feel that great and vital interests
of this kind are sacrificed and endangered by the selfish
obstinacy of 200 individuals, who bold their privileges in
trust for the people, cannot but increase the indignation
which prevails throughout the country.
" 5. That in this awful state of the public mind, your
petitioners ate of opinion that nothingican prevent the most
general and tremendous results but your Honourable House
placing itself at the head of the people, and forthwith
pursuing to a triumphant issue the glorious cause of Par-
liamentary Reform—which your Honourable House has
hitherto followed, with so much credit, prudence and
success.

" 6. That the folly and obstinacy of a numerical majo-
rity of the House of Lords, and by the manly and patriotic
pledge which your Honourable House has given, to sup.
port his Majesty's Government in carrying the principles
of the Bill of Reform into effect, the two Houses of Par-

liament are thus placed in direct opposition to each other ;
and your petitioners think it their duty to remind your
Honourable House that in the present state of the nation

it is not possible for this state of things to continue for
any length of time, without the country being plunged into
a state of utter and irretrievable anarchy.
"7. That our petitioners think it their duty respect-
fully to warn your Honourable House against any com-
promise which mop possibly be proposed in this great
question. Your Honourable House stands high in public
estimation now—and it is most important to the public
peace, and to the safety of the institutions of the country
at this momentous period, that no steps should be taken
calculated to weaken the public confidence in the Members
of your Honourable House. And your petitioners beg
leave to express their apprehension, that if the present
Bill of Reform is not passed, peacefully and legally, and
without mutilation or delay, a much larger measure will
be carried by popular violence and force.
" S. That, in the opinion of your petitioners, if your
Honourable House should be induced to compromise the
rights of the people, by yielding, in any way, to the
House of Lords, there is no hope of preventing the most
frightful anarchy in Engl Ind ; and your petitioners feel
it their duty to declare for themselves, that they would
prefer to see your Honourable House surrender up, at
once, every remnant of Representative Legislation into
the hands of the Aristocracy, rather than assist in esta-
blishing the mockery of a Representative System, which
is only calculated to throw dust in the eyes of the
and to shelter public wrongs and delinquencies front the
national indignation.
" Your petitioners do therefore most humbly and ear-
nestly pray, that your Honourable House will forthwith
address his Majesty, urging the necessity of immediately
creating one hundred new Peers, or as many more as may
be found necessary, to ensure the passing of the Bill of
Reform in the House of Lords, without mutilation or-
delay; or that your Honourable House will be pleased to
address his Majesty, humbly imploring his Majesty forth..
with to dissolve the present Parliament, and to sumnwn,
immediately, a new Parliament, in which the House of
Commons shall be chosen upon the principles laid down in
the Bill of Reform, which has been lately passed by your
Honourable House.

" And your petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever
Pray," &e.

On Saturday morning, shortly before the
rising of the House of Commons, a new writ was ordertd
for Tavistock, in the room of Lord \Vat. RUSSELL, who
has vacated by accepting the Stewardship of the Chiltern
Hundrtds.
Lord ARUNDEL, the only Itoman Catholic
Peer who voted against the Reform Bill, is married to a
sister of his Grace the Duke of BUCKINGHAM.
It has been suggested that great part of the
expense of the superannuation allowances of the Commis-
sioners of Bankrupt might be saved by appointing some of
them to be the presiding Barristers under the Reform Bill,