The Sun.
London, England, 1836-06-14 00:00:00

S PI RIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS.

The Lords this day will report their Select Com-
mittee amendments of the " Municipal Corporation
Act Amendment"—a Bill which the Commons sent
them on the 24th March, and which the Noble muti-
lators have kept " up-stairs" for two months past. As
we suspected yesterday, the Peers, or rather the Copley
muster, have slyly put in a clause to continue the ex-
'carporators Trustees of the Municipal Charities for
one year more, notwithstanding their own clause in the
Corporation Act of last year sends them out of office
on the Ist of August next. This precious piece of
legislative cunning- and Lyndhurst design is couched
as follows :
" XXX. And be it enacted, that the said here it
sums of money, chattels, securities for money, and other
personal estate, shall continue in the persons who at the
time of the passing of this Act shall be seised or possessed
thereof as such Trustees, and in the Trustee or Trustees
appointed to supply any vacancy by the Lord High Chan-
cellor or Lords Commissioners of the Great Seal for the
time being, in the manner provided by the said Act for re-
gulating Corporations. for one year from the expiration of
the present Session of Parliament, unless Parliament shall
sooner otherwise provide, anything in the said Act not-
withstanding."
Lord Lyndhurst, of course, designs to cast out the
Ministerial Bill for the creation of new Charitable
Trustees, and by his precocious legislation conceives
that he can thus covertly and unseen give the Tory
ex-Corporators a second year's use of the charities.
Doubtless, however, the House of Commons will take
care that whatever the fate of the Ministerial Charity
Bill, the Lords shall not thus repeal a clause in the
Corporation Act of last Session, which, on the Ist of
August next, invests the Great Seal with the appoint-
ment of new Charity Trustees, if Parliament does not
in the meanwhile legislate and create a new trust. If
the Lords will not let the Commons move forwards,
the Commons will not permit the Lords, crablike, to
walk backwards.—Morning Chronicle.
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The vindication of the laws by the judges of the
land, who are sworn to administer and defend them,
appears to be so complete in Ireland, that the whole
practical bearing of the tithe question in that country
appears to have undergone an entire alteration. Two
years—nay, 12 months—ago, the unfortunate clergy of
our Protestant Church were at the mercy of Mr.
Daniel O'Connell. The question was, whether the
ministers of the Gospel should be immediately robbed
of half their income by virtue of a Whig-Radical Act
of Parliament, and of the whole of it hereafter, under
cover of an abstract principle, forcibly and iniquitously
ingrafted on that Act—or whether they should at once
He down with their families and perish, without
the interposition of such aid as the Christian charity of
Englishmen and Scotchmen might afford them. Now
the case, providentially, is altered. The fraternal be-
nevolence of Britons has intervened effectually, and
supplied the most pressing wants of these harassed
and persecuted servants of religion. The courts of
justice have moved .with vigour to protect them per-
manently from those who would have plundered while
they insulted them. The writs of rebellion issued
from the Court of Exchequer have in numberless in-
stances,erushed the conspiracy against the lawful rights
of the Church, and forced the defaulters, after a due
display of bluster, and a quantum szyflcit of penance,
to come down with the full amount of their several
debts to the clergy. This, it will be seen at once, has
placed the Church question upon a new and much-
amended footing. The friends of the clergy can no
longer be wrought upon to sacrifice the intrinsic rights
and existence of the establishment, from a humane
dread of seeing its Ministers expire for want of food.
The Protestant clergy cannot henceforth be starved
outright during a time of nominal peace, and while
the King's Writs are current.. A civil war, indeed,
may take place, and they may, with other unoffending
and loyal men, be butchered ; but Mr. Daniel O'Con-
nell has threatened that he will not indulge us with
the luxury of open insurrection. If Protestants
die a violent death, it is to be by shots from be-
hind hedges, or through midnight assassination—
their dwellings burnt, their throats cut, their wives
and infants exterminated with them ; no fair, stand-
tip fighting, nor manly war for the sake of " justice
to the people of Ireland." We see, by the accounts
from that country, that the Agitator himself has been
drawn, through his own delinquency, within the grasp
of the Court of Exchequer. To him it matters not,
while an infatuated multitude, whether of low or high
degree, call be found to bear a bad man harmless for

THIS EVENING.

BANKRUPTCIES SUPERSEDED.
ROBERT JONES the younger, draper, Carnarvon.
MARY TARRANT, milliner Cheltenham.

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his offences. Crime costs him nothing, and he will
laugh at retribution. The consequences of Mr. Da-
niel O'Connell's disobedience to the Exchequer pro-
cess instituted at the suit of the Rev. Mr. Longfield,
for an arrear of two years' tithe, will, doubtless, not
fall upon the purse or person of that independent and
highminded patriot. ; they will be borne by the much-
enduring peasantry of Kerry, and wrung from their
wretchedness in the same manner, and through the same
fraud, operating upon false sentiment or stupidity, as
that under which the magnanimous Duke of Bedford
has come down with his subscription of 1001., to indem-
nify O'Connell for the wilful loss occasioned by the un-
principled attempt of that incendiary to keep wrongful
possession of a seat in Parliament, which in law and
justice belonged to another person. Yes, the Duke
of Bedford did that to which his own son, Lord John
Russell, would not at first give credit. He sent 1001.
to Mr. Joseph Hume for behoof of Mr. Daniel O'Con-
nell, expressly to encourage the Agitator in that course
by which he has hitherto so eminently promoted " the
peace, tranquillity, and happiness of Ireland ! ! !
We actually copy the old Whig's own expressions, in
announcing to the parsimonious member for Middle-
' sex this most reputable exercise of his Grace's bounty.
However, the friends of the united church may now
be satisfied that the personal interests of the clergy
do not require an unworthy concession of any principle
important to the ultimate security of the church. If
the Ministers think fit to amuse themselves and their
confederate Radicals with further displays of the ap-
propriation folly, let them ; they but leave the church
where it is, or become parties to that civil war which
may arise out of O'Connell's and their own joint machi-
nations, though against the wishes of the wily Papist,
and of which the pious, loyal, constitutional, and un-
disguised motive, will be no other than the overthrow
of that system of reformed worship which it was the
main purpose of the Whig revolution in 1688, and of
the Irish union of 1800, to perpetuate in both king-
doms—the expulsion of its Ministers from Ireland, and
the consequent enfeebling of those principles, maxims,
and institutions, essential to the enjoyment of civil li-
berty, of which temporal popery has ever been the ir-
reconcileable foe. Upon the Church question we fear
nothing. The 'Melbourne Ministers have broke no effec-
tual ground against ..the clergy ; but the Church itself,
with the entire Protestant people, are ready and anxious
to see tithes commuted, abuses rectified, and the establish-
ment, in its religious as well as political character,
cleared of all real impurities. As for the tales which
have been circulated within this day or two, of the
sense alleged to be entertained by Ministers of their
own rather critical position--their rage against the
House of Lords for upholding its legislative independ-
ence—and the schemes, misbegotten by fear upon mor-
tification, which the O'Connell Cabinet has thence
given ear to,—we respect the judgment of our readers
too much to assist in giving currency to idle guess-
work. Whatever may be attempted by the enemies of
the constitution or their dupes, we can assure our
countrymen, will be met with consummate skill and
unflinching intrepidity. There are days which call for,
and which happily afford, a class of minds fitted to
subdue the elements of mischief.—Times.
We know of nothing more satisfactory, or more
calculated, in every respect, to secure the' confidence
of the country to his Majesty's Government, as well
as to assure the tranquillity of Ireland, than the manly
and decisive manner in which Lord John Russell, and
his colleagues, supported by the representatives of the
people, are now dealing with the Irish Municipal Bill.
The speech of the Noble Lord, characterised as it
was by a frank and candid avowal of the most liberal
and constitutional principles, must long ere now have
diffused as much satisfaction through the sister isle as
it has spread dismay throughout the Tory camp ; and
the glorions majority by which his motion was carried
given the most unquestionable assurance to our bre-
thren of the sister isle, that the representatives
of the people will not rest satisfied until their
claims to a participation. in the same rights and pri-
vileges which are enjoyed by the English and Scotch

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

BEER TRADE.

TURNPIKE TRUSTS.

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! country is now placed. They are not only
proofs of honest zeal and manly determination, but their
very manner and air are eminently calculated to produce
the most beneficial results—not upon the Lords, we
allow, upon whom argument and persuasion seem to
have lost their influence—but upon that more sane. por-
tion of the community which, however opposed to the
measures of the liberal majority of the Members of
the House of Commons, is not blind to the dangers
which are more than likely to result from the existing
collision between the two Houses of Parliament. The
refractory Lords may talk of the necessity of their
acting as independent judges of all Bills which may
be.sent up by the Commons, and of not being brow-
beaten by them into the adoption of measures of which
they do not approve ; but the prudent portion of their
supporters must see that the ultimate triumph in the
case of a collision, must eventually rest with the latter,
and that the Lords are only hastening their downfall,
and digging a grave for hereditary wisdom, in attempt-
ing for a moment to gainsay the decided wishes of the
Commons. The time certainly was, and is not long
gone by, when the titled and brainless aristocrats
might have safely indulged their anti-popular whims ;
but that time is past, and they may as well dream of
confining the waters of the Thames within the chan-
nel of a mountain rivulet, as of making head success-.
fully against the hatred and indignation which their
insane and dogged opposition to the will of the people
is daily drawing down upon them. The Commons
are not now nominated by them—they are the repre-
sentatives of the people—and if they would, they dare
not betray the interests of their constituents.—Morn-
ing Advertiser.

SECOND EDITION.

SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Cloth.

THE LONDON GAZE FTE

\VAR-OFFICE, JUNE 14, 1836.
MEMORANDUM.
The half-pay of the under-mentioned Officers has been cancelled
from the 14th instant, inclusive, they having accepted a commuted
allowance for their commisssons, viz.:—Assistant-Surgeon A.
Gibson, half-pay New South Wales % eteran Companies ; Lieute-
nant 31. Donelan, half-pay Ist Provisional Battalion of Militia.

OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, JUNE 13.
Royal Regiment of Artillery—Captain and Brevet Major C.
Brigde to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice D. Campbell, placed on the
Retired List . Second Captain P. Sandilands to be Captain, vice
Bridge ; First Lieutenant H. F. Slater, to be Second Captain,
vice Sandilands ; Second Lieutenant H. D. Moiritt to be First
Lieutenant, vice Slater, June 4.
Corps of Engineers—Second Lieutenant W. H. Mould, with
temporary rank, to be Second Lieutenant with permanent rank,
Dec. 12.

WHITEHALL, JUNE 13.
The Lord Chancellor has appointed William Ritson Dryden, of
Kingston-upon-Hull, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the
High Court of Chancery.

DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. '
WILLIAM PHILLIPS ATKINS and ROBERT FREE
MAN, carpenters, Houndsditch.
JOHN RISTE the younger, lace manufacturer, Ilminster.

BANKRUPTCY ENLARGED.
SAMUEL CEARNS, grocer. Liverpool, from June 7, to July
19, at eleven, at the Clarendon Rooms, Liverpool.

BANKRUPTS.
THOMAS MOGER, cheesemonger, Holborn-hill.
JOSEPH WATSON, grocer, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
JOSEPH HAYTON, ship-owner, Maryport, Cumberland.
JOHN II EIBBLEW HITE, woollen-draper, Kingston-upon
Hull.
ROBERT COOPER, jeweller, Rristol.

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,

The SPEAKER took the Chair at 4 o'Clock.
Th. Southampton Water-works Bill, and the Preston and
Longridge Bill were read a third time and fissed.
SMITHFIELD MARKET BILL.

Mr. PALMER presented a petition from the farmers and
graziers of Essex, against the Smithfield and Islington Market
Bill.
MANCHESTER AND CHESHIRE RAILWAY.

Captain PAGET presented a petition from Beaumaris in
favour of the Manchester and Cheshire Railway.
WESSENDEN RESERVOIR.

On the motion of Mr. BLACKBURNE, the Wessenden
Reservoir Bill was read a third time and passed.

KILKENNY PETITION.
The SPEAKER informed the House that the recogni-
zanees in the case of the Kilkenny petition had not been

entered.
The order was then directed to be discharged.
TRALEE CANAL AND HARBOUR.

Mr. MORGAN J. O'CONNELL moved the further con-
sideration of the Report in the Tralce Canal and Harbour
Bill.

Mr. EROTHERTON presented a petition from the beer
retailers of Salfurd, complaining of the inefficiency of the
present law,. and praying for alteration.
CHURCH RATES. . .

Lord ALBERT CONYNGHAM presented a petition
from the Dissenters of Canterbury, praying for the abolition
of church rates.

Mr. BROWNRIGG presented petitions, praying for the
consolidation of turnpike trusts.
Mr. SHARMAI CRAWFORD presented a petition from
Drogheda signed by 6,410 persons, praying that tithes may be
abolished—that the revenue of the lands of the Established
Church may be so economically managed as to supply a fund
for the relief of the poor—that the lands of Ireland may be
relieved from any charge, and that the House will not sanction
any Municipal Bill for Ireland, which does not confer the
corporate rights as those which have been granted to Eng-
land and Scotland ; also petitions from the parishes of Fahans
and Dysteterny, County Donegal, and from Drumgooland,
County Down, praying to the same effect. ,
Mr. SC HOL E FIE LD presented petitions from the paper-
stainers of Birmingham against the proposed alteration in the
duties on stained paper ; also a petition from the inhabitants of
Birmingham for the repeal of the taxes on Newspapers ; and a
petition in favour of the Cheshire Junction Railway.
Mr. CHALMERS presented a petition in favour of the
Irish Municipal Bill, as it originally passed that House.
Sir S. 'WHALLEY presented a petition from Essex, pray-
ing for a mitigation of the severity of the Poor Laws Amend-
ment Bill, as regarded the extension of relief to the poor.
Colonel CONOLLY presented a petition from the diocese
of Cloyne, against the Ecclesiastical Revenues Bill.
Mr. O'CONNELL presented a number of petitions from
the North of England and Ireland, in favour of the Irish Mu-
nicipal Reform Bill as first passed by that House. The Hon.
Member gave notice that in the Committee on the Irish
Church Bill he would move clauses to increase the per centage
from 30 to 40 per cent., and to provide for the repayment of
the 10 per cent. from the Consolidated Fund, in order to
cover the collection, &c. Also, that he would move clauses
in the Committee on the Registration of Votes' Bill.
Mr. T. GLADSTONE presented a petition from Leices-
ter in favour of the Lords' amendments to the Irish Munici-
pal Bill.
Mr. POTTER hoped the Hon. Member was aware that
there bad been a most numerously signed petition to a con-
trary effect, which was agreed to at a public meeting, already
on the table of the House.

WOODS AND FORESTS.
Mr. HARVEY was glad to see the Attorney-General in
his place, for be had an important petition to present, which
he had deferred from last Friday, in the hope of his presence.
This was a petition from the poor to the rich. The petition
was signed by seventy persons, who, with five exceptions,
were all labouring poor. They represented that they had
lived and were born in the county of Radnor, which
till a late period was, at least the greater part of it,
the property of the Crown. In 1826, the Commissioner
of the Woods and Forests sold a great many of the manors in
that county, chiefly, he regretted to say, by private contract.
In that year one of those manors was purchased by private
contract for 12,0001. by Mr. Watt, of Birmingham. From
the statements of the petition it appeared that it was a custom
immemorial for the poor of the district to inclose small por-
tions of waste ground which sloped the hills and vallies
of the county, and out of their labour they built cottages
which many orthem had occupied for upwards of 30 years
without interruption, but the Gentleman to whom he had al-
luded, by purchasing one of the manors, had instituted an
action at law to recover one of those cottages and a small
piece of ground. In that action h verdict was found for the

plaintiff, subject to a special case to be argued before the
Court of Common Pleas. Three issues were discussed before •
the judges of that Court, first, whether the Crown had the •
power to sell; secondly, if it had, whether the wastes would
pass under the conveyance ; and thirdly whether the enclosures •
having been made for more than thirty years, the action could
be maintained. The unanimous opinion of the Court was,
the Crown had not the power to sell the waste ; that if they
had the power, the waste would not pass under the deed, the
Lord Chief Justice (Gibbs) observing that the law and justice
of the case lay with the defendant. Since then the Attorney-
General, at the instance of the Commissioners of Woods and
Forests, had issued a writ to establish, if possible, the right of
the Crown. Whether this was an experiment or not on behalf
of the Woods and Forests, was a matter of little or no mo-
ment, because these persons who were in possession of their
little property were sought to be displaced by a most
expensive, and a most dilatory process.—(Crtes of " Hear.")
It was clear that these proceedings were at variance with the
first principles of justice, and uncalled for by the law of Par-
liament. For by the comprehensive Act passed a few years
since, consolidating all the Acts of Parliament with reference
to inclosures, the Commissioners were empowered to sell, by
public or private contract, the property committed to their
charge. But it wont on to state, that as there were many im-
provements where it would not be expedient to disturb the pos-
sessors, it provided that where parties had been in possession
of these encroachments for twenty years they were not to be in-
terfered with, but where it was for a less time, the Commis-
sioners had power to grant leases. This showed a solicitude to
protect persons in this unfortunate condition. By the proceed-
ings instituted by the Crown in one instance an individual had
been driven from his little home and his little all--from the
rugged soil that he had tilled-with the sweat of his brow—from
the cottage, the work of his own hands, to find no other
home but in, the workhouse.—( Hear.) He bad another
petition on the same subject, which showed how cruelly and
severely these proceedings acted upon the poor. The peti-
tioner stated that he was 78 years of age ; that in 1801,
he enclosed from the Crown of waste lands 20 acres of land,
on which he erected a cottage. Proceedings were taken against
him, and having no means to defend the action, he let judg-
ment go by default. He was thus swept away from his cot-
tage, and thrown upon the wide world. The Commissioners
of Woods and Forests were only exercising their rights, from
a sense of duty ; but he trusted that that House would
manifest such a strong expression of feeling which would
operate on the kind feeling of the Attorney-General,
with a view to induce him to dispense with further proceedings.
(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")
The ATT ORNEY-GE NE RA L said, that in consequence
of the notice he had received from the Hon. Member, he had
thought it his duty to attend in his place, and to inquire be-
' forehand into the facts of the case. He had received infor-
mation on which he could place the greatest confidence, and
he would state what the facts of the case were, on which he
thought the House would agree with him, that nothing bad
I been done that gave just cause of complaint. As the Hon.
Member had stated, the Crown was possessed of extensive
manors in Radnorshire, and a large portion of this which
was public property had been taken in enclosures. In
1826 there manors were to be sold.—( Cries of " Hear.")

It was the duty of the Commissioners of 'Woods and Forests,
at that time, to dispose of the interests of the Crown. The
property was public property, and it was for the public interest
that the property should be disposed of. Every one had ac-
knowledged the title, except Mr. Parsons an attorney, and con-
sequently the action which had been alluded to was brought.
Upon that action it had been clearly proved the Crown had
a title. Mr. Parsons had refused to acknowledge the right
of Mr. Watts, and had stirred up those who before had ac-
knowledged his right, to deny that he had a title to any part
of the manor. Under these circumstances Mr. Watts had,
as between himself and Mr. Parsons, laid his case before the
Commissioners of Woods and Forests. An information had
been filed against Mr. Parsons for this act, which would be
tried at the next assizes of Hereford, when the question would
be decided.
Mr. O'CONNELL did not think that Mr. Watts had
evinced any liberality in the case, becau-se he exacted a rent
which gave him dominion over their property, and which en-
' abled him to turn those poor people out, after they had im-
proved and cultivated the land. In his opinion the Hon._
Member for Southwark should move for a Committee, and if
necessary, address the Crown on the subject.
Mr. ORMSBY GORE could assure the Hon. Member
that cases of equal hardship existed in North Wales; and he
now gave notice that. he would move for certain documents
when the Report of the Woods and Forests was laid on the
table.
Mr. F. LEWIS could not agree with the Hon. Member
who had just sat down that there were many such cases. On
the contrary, the prerogative of the Crown was in too
many cases neglected, and advantage was taken of that
circumstance.—( Hear. ) He would venture to say that no
landed proprietor in Wales would allow of encroachment upon
his property for a single day ; but the CroWn allowed an enjoy-
ment of its property to a certain extent, and must, therefore,
enforce its rights. If the Hon. Member would move for a
Committee to inquire into the rights of the Crown in North
and South Wales, he (Mr. Lewis) would.second it with plea-
sure.

Mr. TOOKE defended the conduct and character of Mr.
Watts, which had been alluded to in rather harsh terms by the
Hon. and Learned Member for Kilkenny.
Mr. O'CONNELL explained.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY complained that the Attorney-Ge-
neral had dexterously handed over the petitioners to grapple
with Mr. Parsons, the attorney. He -only wished the Attor-
ney- General and his predecessors had been as careful of the
public or Crown property in bygone times as they now seemed
to be. The conduct Of the Woods and Forests had been
most oppressive and flagitious, even to the extreme ; but
there appeared to be a sudden sense of duty sprung up in
the (Alice, and these po3r petitioners were the victims.
These were encroachments undoubtedly, but they were
encroachments of 30 years standing, and the Attorney-Gene-
ral was so eminent in the law as to 'know that no encroach-
ments could be questioned in a Court of Law after 20 years'
enjoyment, except by the prerogative of the Crown. He would
make further inquiry into the matter, and if the facts were as
stated, of which he had no doubt, he would certainly adopt
the course suggested by the Hon. and Learned Member for
Kilkenny, and move for a Committee.
After some observations from the ATTORNEY GENERAL,
which were inaudible in the Gallery, the petition was ordered
to lie on the table.
Mr. HOPE presented a petition from Gloucester, praying
for the abolition of death in all eases.
Mr. JARVIS presented a petition from Chester, praying
for an alteration of the timber duties.
Mr. HODGES presented a petition from the Gravesend
Steam Navigation Company, against the Steam Navigation
Bill now before the House. Also; a petition from Frome and
Dartmouth, against the Consolidated Turnpike Act.
TITHES.

Mr. H. GRATTAN presented six petitions from parishes
in 'the county of Meath against Tithes, and against the Lords'
Amendments to the Irish Municipal Corporation Bill.
PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS.

Mr, HUME presented a petition from an individual, stating
that a considerable advantage had arisen from the%pening of
an office for the sale of parliamentary papers in England, and
praying that a similar: convenience might be afforded to
Ireland.

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNE 14, 1836.