The Sun.
London, England, 1814-11-16 00:00:00

port the motions,` which Ise hoped sstralt not be
voted against by any. person
.avliO 44 ever con-
tended that controul over the notarial pxpendi-
Cute, and reduction in it, were 4iitasary to the
well-being of the State.,
Mr. \WELLESLEY POLE said, that if he had, not
listened to the firstpart of this debate, and beard
the motion of the Right -Hon. Gentleman, he
should not have been able to foini any thing like
cnvrect guess at the question before the House,
flora the speech of the lion. Gentleman who
spoke last, on the other side. He never should
have supposed that they were discussing a motion
brought forward, in an extraordinary Manner, for
the production of the Civil LiA Accounts; he
should have thought that the House was engaged
in considering some motion respecting the ap-
pointment of Mr. Canning to be Ambassador at
the Court of Lisbon—or, relating to the accep-
t*ance of office of some of that Right Hon. Gen-
tleman's friends ; for the whole of his speech, ex-
cept ,a very few words, at, the conclusion, was
confined to those points. In the course of his
speech, the Hon. gentleman was pleaSed to take
notice of him (Mr. Pole), and of his acceptance
of office, and to describe him of one oC the eon-
hexioni of that Right Hon. Gentleman, Mr. Can-
an hopour to which he did' not lay claim.
The Hon. Gentleman said, lie could also see an-
_other, reason why he
.(Mr. Pole) had come into
office, _but that other reason the Hoo. Gentleman
was not kind enough to state to the House.
.The
Hon-Gentleman had described himself as a party
man, -and always soppOrting his party, when it
acted_ upon the principles which, he,professed. He
-
gave the Finn. Gentleman credit for the principles'
which he. avowed ; he had seen him for many
years in that ,House acting as a party man
with great ability, sometimes, with great' service
to the public, and sometimes, in his opinion, with
a very different effect. He remembered also, that
when the Hon. Gentleman's friends came into of-
fice, so nice. were his notions of adherence to
principle, that he could not even then support the
King's Government, but opposed them—(Mr. %V.
said, Hear, hear !) He was pot finding fault with
the Hon. Gentleman's conduct ; he was stking
these things to his honour. With respect to his
own acceptance of office, be begged to say, that
he never had any connexion with that Hon. Gen-
tleman, or any of his friends, to enable him or
them to state the reason why he had quitted office,
or why he had now accepted it. The whole of
his political conduct was before the House and
the Public; if the flea. Gentleman had
.any
charge to make against it, or any observations to
to make on his acceptance of office, let him bring
forward his statement, and he Was-ready to answer
it. He had uniformly acted upon one principle;
which was, to serve the public honestly and faith-
fully in stations of confidence, whenever, lie could
do it consistently with those political principles
which he had always avowed. lie was- neither
ashamed nor afraid to have the whole of his poli-
tical life investigated in the closest manner. With
respect to the question before the HOuse, be could
not avoid saying, that never in hiS life haul he
.seen a motion so unusual=so unprecedented in its
nature—so slightly supported. Not one of the
Gentlemen on the other side of- the House had
urged one satisfactory reason, to ibew the House
wisp it should go into the proposed investigation
now, rather than at the period when it must be
regularly brought 'forward, viz, in April next.
For what good purpose was the House:to go into
the investigation now ? One Of the reasons as-
signed was, that Mr. Canning's 'appointment might
be investigated; but had it not been discussed % •
If the papers called for wens tea times before the
House, that subject could not be snore discussed.
if Gentlemen thought otherwise, why did they
not give notice of a motion upon that subject.—
Another object, which was mentioned', was the
rumours in circulation, of the intention to build
.4 Palace. Upon that point, his Right Hon. Friend
bad giVen a distinct answer ; hut, would the pro-
- duction of the accounts called for give any further
. infOrmation on that head ? Certainly not. An-
other object assigned was, the Duke of Welling-
ton's house at Paris ; bat was there _any reason
why Gentlemen might not bring forward any noa-
• tion upon that subject which they thought pro-
per ? Every one of these points had been fidly
canvassed and discussed ; and therefore, even
upon the groundsadvanced by the I-lon Gentle-
men alietuselves, there-was no reason for assent-
ing to this .Motion.
Mr. Potasosnrt felt no doubt that the High •
' Honourable Gentleman, who had jusesat dowus
was ready at all banes to take upon himself the
responsibility of office: on a former night he bad
avowed himself ready to sustain the responsibility
of all parts of the Administration.—(No, no, from
Mr. Pole.), It waadifficult, however, to recon-
. cite this declaration with the, fact—he was ever
anieions to serve his cosintry " in high situations,
and with a, proportionate share of responsibility,"
and yet what was he now ! Master of the Mint !
A very high situation, and a very heavy respoit:
sibility. The Right Hon. Gentleman had asked,
• of what use it would be to producethe papers now
, He would tell hint of what use it would be, it
would prove to demonstratiou that the Civil List
was riot in a state to bear new expences. Nothing
Ivas so much the duty of the House, in the pre-
sent.circumstanees of the country, as retrencha
omit ; anal if a retrenchment in expence were ef-
fected now in what concerned the Crown, they
%vault! endear themselreS to the Country ; and it
st-as necessary to prove, that there was no subject
-which demanded -attention, to which their en-•
sparks would not be directed.
' Mr. 13.-LTHIJUST contended it was not necessary:
to produce the accounts before the ttaaa oaao kiy
law, the sth of April. Ministers did not refuse
information but they stood op for the period
which Parliament had decided was that at which
ea (moils la he given. He thought at no part of '
the Sesaloo wai a toter attendance to-be expected
than at the time when the accounts would be
rorthcautiog. The law, as it at present stood,. in
Td is opinioo„ gave the public security,•that the ac-
counts of the Civil List would be investigated
whenever it was necessary.
Mr. BAN es thought the timeat which the'
Keeourits were usually given, was, too late for them
to conic to any practical resolution on the subject
in the saute Session, more especially .if a Coat-
ttittee were to he appointad to Lavk late it, Lie