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deprive then of that recompense for their wrongs to
which they were justly entitled. He Would ' ask,
, could a man in this situation have the same feelings
towards his Country as if. no such clause had found
its way into the present Bill ?
Colonel VEREKER declared himself strongly fa-
. vourable, to the principles of the Bill, which he
thought was in danger of being frittered away alto-
gether.
• Sir JOHN NEWPORT mentioned some cases in
which, ,he contended,, that individuals, had suffered
.• by the errors of Magistrates; he thought, therefore,.
that the Legislature ought to take care to protect the
Subject as well as the Magistrate.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL. observed, that if this
clause were omitted,-allthe preceding clauses might •
be cancelled also.
Mr, WIND HAM always considered the principle of
the Revenue Laws a very deplorable departure from
the general principles of British Legislation,- and
could not reaailybe induced to think that we ought
to adopt whatmust in some instance*he an unit...st ex-'
• ception, instead'of what was an acknowledged, just,
and liberal established rule. The case of Sutton and
Johnston was a singular exception, not extremely
_worthy of Imitation.
General LorruS spoke,- from his own experience,
in support of the. Clause.
Lord H. PETTY declared, that in every principle
of justice' we were bound toadminister relief' to the
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injured indiyAduaLeven though it should not be done
ofthe
at the expence Magistrate. •
Lord MILTON reprobated- severely the injustice
of theoneasure ; as a matter: of policy even it was
to be cdnsidered, that such a measure would nate-
rat./ irritate men's minds, 'when they felt that they
had suffered damage," when they appealed to
Court:sof Justice,' and a Jury awarded them seta
compensat: s in damages, and yet it was not in the
jower of the Jury to extend to the individual that
ustice to which they knew he was entitled. When
he saw the verdiet of the Jury superseded by the de.
vision of the Judge, was that a way to reconcile the
feelings of Itishroen—was -that a way to bind Ire: '1
. land by friendly attachment to this Country?
CIfiI.NCELLOR sof the • EXCIIBC-71ER
Maintained that the decision would be strengthened,.
interest of individuals would be better secured
by the opinion of the Judge and Jury being both
ie public. He contended that the cases to which
Gentlemen alluded appeared to be what the law
termed detainees sine injuria, and private interest
Must give way to public good. •
Mr. WiNDHiIM said, that if the Magistrate
was supposed to be-innocent, that is with reseeel. to
the quo aninin with which lie a&d, and yet it was
seen that an individual suffered Materially, Govern:-
Mein or the Country should reimburse the sufferer.
Mr. MORRIS said, that if the verdi& of the
Jury was supposed to be erroneous, the Constitution
had provided a legal zoode of redress' to the' party •
who supposed himself aggrieved, as he might move
for a new trial, then for a second, and so on to a.
third ; and, if three Juries of the Country were agreed'
as to the same chief point, however highly he re-
' spelled the ebari..6ter and- general -conduCt of the
:ledges. in England and Ireland,, he must say, that he
should think the verdict of three distina Juries in-
finitely preferable to diet of any ine4 toted who
might oppose their decision, _however highly ve.H
merable that indis idual might be in other respects. ,
The Committee divided upon this Clause, and the
nuoibers were,--.-eFor , the Original Clause
kor the Ainendthent 28-y-Majority 47.
Upon the period of two year.; and to the end
,of
the next' ensuing Session of Parliament, being pro-
,
posed ter the duration of the Att, .
Sir. JOHN AEWPORT rose, and -deprecate
such a period, as it implied the contemplation of a
hece.,sity which might cease" long befine• Parlia-
Nent eas in •the habit of annually considering the
Mutiny Bill, and • the reasons which ; induced that
habit pleaded with still stronger force for the an..z.
twat consideration of a measure of this nature, which
Wbuld go to put Ireland out of the pale of the Con-.
fititntioll. What, he would ask, would Gentlemen
hay it it were proposed" for such, or indeed fei- any
Period, to put England in such a situation. •
ColunelVaitit&Olt was an advocate for the clause,
. as was e .
General Puttlisi who stated, that if England were;
1,0 such a state as that of Ireland, or likely to be so,":
ne believed that no English Gentleman would he,
1 found to opp6se the adoption of a measure similar to
sent.
.4/r. lIINDIL4iII thought that.. shortening„the
duration of the Bill "tend be "a: sett-of-pledgelceihts,
;Irish People of tha reluaince' with which Pattie-
Mort inaposed snob an. ad upon them while its pre-'
beut extended duration, would (firefly indicate an
Indifference upon the stibjetl. For although the
for the Bill were now. fully evident, still no
an could presume that the period objected to might
Acte
long survive tnat necessity.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
j Ott decidedly of opinion that . the clause ought to
Ca"
, in its present stage, because there was no pro-
! ability that the necessity which called for the Bill
uould, so soon cease; and lIIED because it was de-
!treble to prevent the agitation of a qUestionaf
nature so often as the Right Hon. Baronet professed
to
wish, lest at agitation might tend 'to aggravate
• the ev'l
, 1 which the Bill was meant to cure.
d GRATTANrose at nearly three o'clock, and
The
most energeiic and' impressive speech.—
1-n'e Right Hon. Gentlemarebegan by' deprecating
lae doatrine, that the existence of a power, if that .
firAvere not called into eaten, was" not to be
rnsidered.as a grievance. What, he would a'sk, waa
e4ver.,Y ?---nothing but sufferaeCe. Great odium, he
attached"in Ireland..to the measure under the
consideration of the Anunaittee. A :variety oflet-'
es from' that country, many, of which he, .had
received, fully satisfied, him ortbis point."--e
But still, from a consideration of the necessity of the
ease he ,
,was • ieauy_ to take nis fun shame of that.
_odium by. supporting the Bill. This was atime in
"v every-inan should 'be prepared to sacrifice,
net only some portion of his liberty but of his credit,
and he was 'ready to make some sacrifice of both fur'
lighthiegt iolod of
,t.be State, He understood from his
on. blend beside hiru—(we' conceived the'
allusion to be to Mr. Elliot)--.that there were secret
1147,611 P. a dark, and, dangerous descriptloniti
• uptalscl ani?... lits formed •a ground for the 'Bill. He
etc! of a bench interest" in Ireland; and be
Itti.iestrtdr_t_l:ltsit Government should :be- furtiished with
• 1;1,41, ea. oot. merely of :"resisting but of ex,
•ng that'interest stherever and' whenever