The Sun.
London, England, 1814-05-06 00:00:00

NOR WAY.

Lord GREY, disclaiming the intention to inter,
fere with any pendinc, negociation, thought it ne-
cessary to ask the N ble Secret,try of State, whe-
ther a negociation.of sonic sort had not bee❑ re-
cently entered into respecting Norway ? whether,
with that view, Commissioners had not been sent
to both Denmark and Norway ? and whether those
Commissioners were directed to demand the ces-
sion of Norway to Sweden, as a sine qua non, or
whether any alternative were offered -?

Lord LIVERPOOL said, he was sure the Noble
Earl ►oust feel,that, it would not be proper on his
part to give a precise answer to the question
which be.had just' stated ; butshe was free to say,
that; on the part of. his Majesty and his Allies,
Cormuissioners had been sent .to Denn►ark and
Norway, relative to the cession of the latter to
Sweden. •

• Earl Gay could not- feel satisfied by the. an-
sWerof the Noble Earl, for it was impossible to
collect front it whitt was the intention with re-
spect to Norway—whether it was intended.to allow
the Norwegians to preserve, that independence for
which they were so nobly struggling, against the
privations' of famine, .and the pressure of various
misery, or whether_ their 'submission to the Go-
vernment of Sweden was to be the sine qua non.
He was anxious for information upon this sub-
ject, because the. course which he should think
proper to pursue must-she regulated by that in-
formation, and he could not :consider it as at all
inconsistent with the duty.of the Noble Secretary
to answer his ,question. lf, however, 'the Noble
Secretary should not make the answer required,
be (Lind G.) should feel it his duty to persevere.
in the motion of which he had . given notice for
Tuesday, with respect to theproductionof cer-
tain Papers upon this subject.
Lord LIVERPOOL had no difficulty in stating the
_existence of the'negociation alluded to, but be
thought their Lordships must feel the danger of
any explicit answer. to the Noble Earrs'question,
as to what might be the sine qua non of that ne-
gociation, for by such an answer •he was per-
suaded that the object of the uegociation would
rather be impeded than promoted. It was, how-
ever, open to the Noble Earl to purstie such
course as his .sense of duty suggested.
Lord
_HOLLAND observed, that he-never recol-
leered &Minister who did not'deelare, that any
answer to a question of this nature would rather
embarrass than promote the object of a pending
negociation. But still he must say that it would
not become the Ministers or that House rto sus-
pend the declaration of a decisive opinion upon
this interesting subject, until the poor but brave
population of Norway were reduced to sub Mission
by force and famine.
Earl Gaut' said, that being told, on the one
band, that an -explicit answer to his' question
would inwede the object of a pending tiegociat
while apprised, on the other, measures of vio-
lence and injustice, totally inconsistent with the
honour and character of England, were using to
force the submission of a country to a foreign state,'
he telt himself in some difficulty as to what course
it might be deemed proper to pursue. He should,
however, persevere in his notice for •Tuesday,,
particularly in consequence-of some authentic in-
formation which had reached him ;, for he un--
dei stood, from a note of the Swedish
that a special mission had been sent Denmark
and Norway for the purpose of officially declaring,'
that if. the latter should
.not consent to be an-
nexed to the Swedish Crown, England and her
Allies were ready to support the .pretensions of
Sweden, with a view to their annexation.. This
was the sine qua non, to which he had alluded,
namely, that if Norway -should not voluntarily
isubinit to. Sweden, arms would be employed to
force that submission. If, indeed, in addition to
the statements of the Noble Secretary„tlnit the
object of the pending negociation_ would be im-
peded bit, answering the questions he had put, and
that, therefore, that House should suspend the.
declaration of any opinion until the negociation
terminated, it were also communicated, that in the
interim the use of force' against the Norwegians,
and the blockade of the ports of Norway, should be
suspended, he might be reconciled patiently to
wait the result. But while measures were pur-
sued, in his opinion, inconsistent.will all the prin-
ciples which this country held sacred, and which
must be held sacred among all people who re-
spected the rights of humanity, he could not con-
sent to postpone his motion for Tuesday.

LORD- WELLINGTON.
Lord DARNLEY, after observing upon the satis-
faction which the Country universally-felt from the
high distinction just conferred upon Lord Wel-
lington, took occasion to .ask the Noble &eke-

Whethedt Was in. conternpl!ition ti;ql;t4Mse
ailyaildltiOrial grant tolliii',,gaiNiit,CsCr; to en-
hirri tv ? Fr[ th ctiritmon
lie had learned-, that it cras Hiended to
sonie additional Pension to. the Noble Duke;
but if not to, he hit it his duty ttitake thesarliest
oiport'unity of entering b:s protest against the in-
iention. When it WIS eouside'red tinder
1-)rovidet-le, this Country and Europe were inainlr
Indebfed tor its present happy state and I yospects
to the instrumentality Of that illustrious Officer, it
must be felt that the purchase of a large. domain;
With the erection of a magnificent tuansitin, was
due- to his merits. .-Sure he was that such was the
universal feeling of the Country, and he had no
doubt also the feeling of that House. He hoped
that this feeling would be gratified, and Ministers
would meet the public wishes upon the -subject.
But he trusted that what was necessary in order
to render perfect justice to this meritorious Officer
would ultimately be done, even though Ministers
should fail in their duty.,
.Lord LIVERPOOL said,
,that with regard tO,the
i'Toble Lord's; question, he sho'uld probably, to-
morrow, or at least the next day of meeting, re-
ceive ',the commands of his Royal Highness the
Prince Regent,
,tti niake a conlinunication to their
Lordships upon this subject. f And on that occa-
sion he shotild State the raisons for that course
'of proceeding
_which
,hiS Royal. Highness'ts ad-
visers might feel it ti.:cirTlnty to- rtcoinmenil.
INgOLVENT DEBTORS.

Lord HOLLAND presented a Petition from the,
Debtors confined in the prisons of the Isle of
Man,.eomplaining that the provisions of the per-
manent Insolvent Act did not extend to them,
and that the A& passed for their relief was very
imperfect. Ordered to lie on the table.