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nied that the Noble Lord had any such inter,* aq that
alluded to. •

Lord F. OSBORNE had not imputed any personal mo-
tive to the Noble Lord in question. What he had said
was, that it did so happen that the counties with which
Cabinet Ministers were connected had a greater share of the
spoliation occasioned by the Bill than any others.
Sir GEORGE MURRAY, adverting to what the Noble
Paymaster of the Forces had said as to the probability or
improbability of the the Bill's being a final measure, de-
clared that he did not believe the Bill would be a final
measure, because he was persuaded that it contained
within itself the seeds of its own dissolution. He main-
tained that great injustice was done to Scotland, by leaving
many considerable towns and cities without representation.
He should certainly vote against the present proposition,
because he was of opinion that Gateshead was sufficiently
represented by Newcastle.
A MEMBER (whose name we were unable to learn)
thought Wales had been treated with justice, and de-
fended Ministers from the imputations which bad been cast
upon them.
Sir JOHN MALCOLM vindicated the const►tuency of
those who, having opposed the disfranchisement of the
former part of the Bill, now opposed the enfranchisement
of the present part of it. He would vote against giving a
Member to Gateshead, from his conviction that there were
many places in England, the population and opulence of
which gave them much greater pretensions to be re-
presented.
Mr. DUNDAS assigned as a reason for voting against
giving a Member to Gateshead, that it was not proposed to
give a Member to Perth.
Mr. C. PELIIAM said a few words against the motion.
—(Loud cries of question, question.)
Mr. BARING said, he had never before heard a Minis-
try, however powerful, propound to Parliament an import-
ant proposition, and then not listen to any arguments ad-
duced against it. They might as well adopt the course
which their organs of the Press recommended to them, and
pass the measure at once without further consideration.
The Hon. Gentleman here took occasion to censure the
manner in which, in some of the papers, espousing the
cause of the Ministry, the speeches of their opponents were
reported, with the introduction of " yawns," " groans,"
&c. In many instances what he had stated to the House
appeared in the Press in so disjointed a form, as to be a pack
of nonsense. On one morning too, ke was called a fool,
on another a fungus. All that he wished was, that the
Press would leave him alone. The Noble Paymaster of the
Forces had said that he was not sure if the Bill would be
a final measure; for that would depend upon the manner
in which it would be found to work. There was one way
in which it was very evident the Bill would work; it
would work to the utter destruction of one party in this
country. The Tory-party might be said to be completely
gone. Never, in any country, or in any of the phases
of any Revolution, had there been so striking an instance
of a plan absolutely devised by one party, for the utter de-
struction of another party, to which they were opposed.
The Hon. Member proceeded to comment on the incon-
sistency of the arguments urged in favour of the Bill.
The authors of it, while they asserted that the population
was the ba.is of their measure, passed by places which had
a much larger population than Gateshead, which had also
at its very door a place already represented ; and no
grounds had been submitted to the Committee for agreeing
to the proposition before them. In the whole schedule D
Gateshead was the only place, the application of a Member
to which was extremely objectionable. Its appearance in
the schedule was a very suspicious circumstance. If no
alteration were made in the elective franchise as it now
stood in the Bill; if it were to be " the Bill, the whole
Bill, and nothing but the Bill," they would send a fire.
brand through all the bee-hives of industry that would be
productive of the most injurious consequences ; and it was
generally allowed by those who had the means of judging
upon such subjects, that a greater plague could not be
conceived.

Mr. HUNT congratulated the House and the country
on the new view which the Noble Paymaster of the Forces
had that night taken of the Bill. Up to that night it had
been supposed that the Bill was to be a final measure. Now,
the Noble Lord had very justly said, that if it did not work
well it ought not to be final. He congratulated the Noble
Lord on this fair and open avowal ; and be was sure the
reflecting part of the community would be of the same
opinion. He would vote with Ministers that night, be-
cause Gateshead was an insignificant place; and he was

fully convinced that in the succeeding Parliament Chelsea
would have a representative allotted to it. What the
Hon. Member for Thetford had said with respect to the

statements in the papers of the proceedings in that House
was quite correct. It was astonishing to see, day after
day, how the speeches of Members were misrepresented.
Was that calculated to add to the character of the public
Press? It was in vain to conceal the fact, that what was
called the leading journal grossly misrepresented what oc-
curred there. For himself, he was accustomed to that kind

of thing. But speeches to which he had listened with the
greatest attention, were, with a disgusting want of prin-
ciple, wholly neglected, while others which almost set
him to sleep, appeared in the most eloquent phraseology.
For himself he should continue fearlessly to do his duty' ;
and if the Press thought to intimidate him, it was mistaken.
The Committee then divided—
Ayes 9.64,
Noes
Majority
The House then proceeded with the remaining boroughs
in schedule D.
Mr. CROKER took occasion to remark that he did not
object to giving Members to the boroughs in schedule D,
but simply to this unequal distribution of the elective
franchise.
It was agreed to postpone the cases of Kendal and Walsall.
It was agreed, without discussion, that the following
boroughs should stand part of schedule D:—
Halifax, including township of Halifax, Yorkshire.
Huddersfield, including parish of Huddersfield,Yorkshire.
Kidderminster, including town of Kidderminster,Worces-
tershire.
:Macclesfield, including town of Macclesfield, Cheshire.
Oldham, including parish of Oldham, Lancashire.
Rochdale, including town of Rochdale.
Salford, including townships of Salford, Pendleton, and
Broughton, Lancashire.
South Shields, including town of South Shields, town-
ship of Westoe, Durham.
Stockport, including town of Stockport, Cheshire.
Stoke-upon-Trent, including township of Longton and
Lane-End, Fenton Culvert, Fenton Vivian, Penkhull
and Bothen, Shelton, Manley, Burslem, with the vil-
lage of Rushton Grange and the hamlet of Sneyd, Tun-
stall Court, Chell, and Oldcott, Staffordshire.
Tynemouth, including parish of Tynemouth, Northum-
berland.
Wakefield, including township of Wakefield, Yorkshire.
Whitby was then agreed to.
The House then resumed, and Mr. BERNAL reported
progress.