The Sun.
London, England, 1831-09-13 00:00:00

RANKRUPTBY ENLARGED.

JOHN REDFOORD DAVIS, Liverpool, merchant. from
Sept. 13 to Nov. 2.
BANKRUPTS.

THOMAS NEIGHBOUR, sen. and THOMAS NEIGH-
BLUR, juts., King-street, West Smithfield, wine-merchants, to
surrender Sept. 22, at one, 24, at ten, and Oct. 25, at eleven, at
the Court of Commissioners. Wadeson, Dingwall, and Duke,
Austin-friars.

SAMUEL CROCKWELL, Torquay, Devonshire, builder,
Sept. 27, 28, and Oct. 25, at twelve, at the Court.; of Commis-
sioners. Bell, Ely-place, London.
WILLIAM MILLER, Walcot, Bath, grocer, Sept. 28, 2 ,
and Oct. 25, at twelve, at the Three Cups Inn, Bath. Harvey,
Barnard's.inn, London ; Hellings, Bath.
RICHARD PRICE, Manchester, grocer, Sept. 28, 30, and
Oct. 25, at eleven, at the Palace Inn, Manchester. Johnson and
Weatherall, Temple; Hitchcock, Manchester.
WILI,IASI SHAW, Aston, Staffordshire, china-manufac-
turer, October 11, it, and 26, at two, at the Union Hotel, Lane-
End. Young, Lane-End ; and Barbor, Fetter-lane, London.
ROBERT ROPER CLARKE, High Holborn. victualler,
Sept. 20, at ten; 27, and October 25, at eleven, at the Court of
Commissioners. Parnell, Spitaltiel,:s.
JOHN ROPE, Ray-street, Clerkenwell, butcher. Sept. Hi, at
twelve, 23, at eleven, and Oct. 25, at twelve, at the Court of
Commissioners. Denton, Barker, and Choppin, Gray's.inn.
THOMAS ROBERT BLAYNEY, Newtown, Montgomery-
shire, flannel-manufacturer, Sept. 21, 22, and Oct. 25, at eleven,
at the Bear's-head Inn, Newtown. Jones, Furnival's Inn, Hol-
born ; Bandstrom and Jones, Newtown.
WILLIAM HOPEFUL LEREW, Great Portland-street,
Marylebone, surgeon, Sept. 20, 27, at twelve, and Oct. 25, at
eleven, at the Court of Commissioners. Reynalds, University-
street, Tottenham-court-road.
ALFRED WYATT, Bankside, Southwark, Roman cement-
manufacturer, Sept. 16, at twelve, 23, at eleven, and Oct. 25, at
twelve, at the Court of Commissioners. Grimaldi and Stables,
Throgmorton-street.
EDWARD HAWTHORN and WILLIAM EDWARD
LLOYD, Burton-upon-Trent, Staffordshire, linen-drapers, Sept.
20, at ten, 27, at eleven, and Oct. 25, at ten, at the Court of
Commissioners. Hardwick and Guest, Lawrence-lane, Cheapside.
JOHN BOTHA M, Derby, builder, Sept. 22, 23, and Oct. 25,
at two, at the Tontine Inn, Sheffield. Ryalls, Sheffield; Flewker,
Derby; Rodgers, Devonshire-square, Bishopsgate-street.

131 PERIAL PARLIAMENT

THIS EVENING.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER. did not take his seat until Twenty
Minutes to Four o'clock.
On the motion of Viscount INGEsratE, a new writ was
ordered to issue for the county of Dorset, in the room of the
Right Hon. John Calcraft, deceased.
Mr. MAXWELL presented a petition, signed by 278
Protestants, and 312 Roman Catho'ics in the county of
Kerry, in favour of the grant to the Kildare-street Society.
The Hon. Member then moved an humble Address to his
Majesty, praying that there be laid before the House copies
of the depositions taken at Newtownbarry before the
Coroner, on the bodies of the unfortunate individuals
killed there on the 18th of June. The Honourable
Member said that if the affidavits he had produced on a
former evening were not sufficient to induce the House to
believe that what had been said respecting the death of
Mary Mulrooney, and tile premature birth of her child was
incorrect, he had now the affidavit of Mr. Boyce, a most
respectable practitioner, who attended the Woman till her
death, and he swore that she had no other wound than
what was ordinarily caused by a bullet, that tht-re was no
child protruding, and, in fact, that she was nut pregnant.
On the motion of Mr. Alderman Noon the petitions
which be hni presented in favour of the Steam-boats Re-
gulation Bill, on former occasions were referral' to the
Steam Regulation Committee.
THE LAW OF LIBEL.

Mr. HUME I;esentelCa petition from Joseph Townsend
Holman, who had been sentenced by the Court of King's
Bench to six months irnprisonmenton an indictment for libel.
The Hon. Member strongly reprobated theexistence o f a law
for punishing individuals for writing what they could
prove to be the truth, and stated that in his opinion a man
who dared not resort to a civil process, in which the truth
of the matter might be put in evidence, should not be
allowed the privilege of proceeding criminally, unless
the law were altered so as to allow the truth
of the matter of complaint to be put in evidence.
—(Hear, hear.) The petitioner stated, that in giving
judgment the learned Judges stated that the Court had not
the power to entertain for a moment the truth of the mat-
ter, although he had affidavits to support every thing he
had written. He therefore prayed for an alteration in the
law, s,) that in all prosecutions for libel the truth of the
subject might be put in issue. The Honourable
Member said he fully concurred in the prayer of the
petition, and hoped soon to see an alteration in the law.
The petition was laid on the table, and ordered to be
printed.
Mr. HUNT presented a petition from the Eastern
branch of the National Union, sitting at the Pitt's Head,
Pitt-street, Bethnal-green, expressing the sorrow of the
petitioners at the sentence passed upon the Rev. R. Tay-
:or, and praying for a repeal of the law imposing punish-
ment on persons for expressing their religious opinions, --
Tile judgment on Mr. Taylor was in his (Mr. IL's) opinion
vindictive and cruel, and greatly aggravated by the priva-
tions which that individual was compelled to suffir in prison.
Lord G. LENNOX presented a petition from a lady named
Maria Harding, residing in the parish of Westbourne, in
Sussex, stating, that during the disturbances in November
last, she bad a thrashing machine broken, and upon her
applying to the Magistrates fur compensation out of the
county rate, she was informed that thrashing machines
were not within the statute of 7th and Bth Geo. IV., she
therefore prayed for compensation.
Mr. HUMS said, he understood that Lord Melbourne,
in November last, sent round circulars, expressly stating
that thrashing machines were within the statute, and he
suggested that the Noble Lord (George Lennox) should
read that circular. If that were so, then it was a &re-
liction of duty in the Magistrates to rel Use compensation ;
but if thrashing machines were not equally protected as
other property, not a moment should be lost in bringing in
a Bill to remedy the evil.

Mr. lIUNT said, if such a Bill were brought in., he
hoped one would also be introduced to compel the farmers
to employ all the labourers. He very much regretted to
see thrashing machines used while so many labourers
were out of employ.
Mr. S. RICE observed there could not he a possibility
of doubt that thrashing machines were under the saute
protection as other property.—(Hear, hear.) It might
be necessary for the injured party to adopt certain
pro which perhaps this lady had not adopted, but
be‘cse-aesdings
satisfied that thrashing machines wer; i;cluded in
the Act of Parliament the same as other property. He
regretted to hear the observations of. the Hon. Member for
Prec,ton (Mr. Hunt) against thrashing-machines, which
were certainly of great service in the country.
Mr. C. FERGUSON was sure that there was no doc-
ti ine more dangerous than tlitai Uttered by the Hon. Mem-
ber for Vrest,on
so plain that all machines which shortened labour increased
There was no point in political economy
the means of employment.
Lord G. LENNOX read some portion of the, petition,
to show that the petitioner bed taken the btst mode of
her claim before tire Magistrates, and observed, that
be knew an opinion
prevailed with some magistrates, that
thrashing machines certainly did not come within the Act
of Parliament.

Mr. HUNT saki the best mode of giving employment to
the PooV Was to lower the rents and taxes. He denied tse
statement of the Hon. Alember for Leicester (111 v, C. Fer-
guson), that thrashing machines would: give employment
t., the poor.

Mr. HUME deprecated the first statement of the Hon.
Member for Preston, as calculated to encourage any bad
leering that the labourers might entertain against machinery.
Mr. HUNT explained, He: did not wish to throw

any thing either to instigate or Justify the breaking of
thrashing machines, but would only ag tin state to th
House as a matter of fact, that where the machinery IP,
been done away with the labourers were now all em-
ployed.
Lord INGESTRIE said his attention had been particu
larly called to this subject, in consequence of having late]
had occasion to pass through the county of Wilt-
where extensive fires had taken place. On one occasha
a farmer had erected on Saturday evening a thrashin
ichine, and brought it into action on Monday inornim
and his property wa, in consequence destroyed, so that tl t
man was completele'y reduced to ruin and want. Ht
(Lord Ingestrie) would take that opportunity to offer
two or three remarks by way of friendly advice to tin
farmers, and he would tell them that whenever
there was a great preponderance of labourers they would
lo well to abstain from the use of machines as much as pos-
sible ; while he would admonish the labouring class them-
selves on no occasion to attempt to gain with violent,
what would be secured to them he knew without it,—the
maintenance of their just rights and privileges.
Mr. ROBINSON thought the matter demanded the
prompt and judicious consideration of the Legislature ; and
if they could not do away with machinery, some other
means ought to be devised by which a growing and
a pregnant evil in the country would be diminished.
The plain, and obvious, and only remedy, in his opi •
nion, was to facilitate, by reduction of taxation, and
an alteration in the Corn Laws, the means of gaining sub-
sistence to the poor. He had received information from a
quarter in the county of Kent to the effect that burnings
had again commenced, and he hoped, therefore, that stn
mediate attention would be given to the subject by Govern-
ment.

Mr. HODGES was understood to say that although he
was connected with the county of Kent, he had received
no such information respecting a renewal of the disgraceful
scenes of last year.
Mr. PAGET said, that another subject brought under
the notice of the House by this petition respected the qua-
lification for Magistrates and Justices of the Peace.
Very complicated matters were frequently submitted
or their determination, and as the present qualification
‘‘ as only 100/., he hoped that the Government would
require some more-considerable, if not legal or judicial,
qualification.
Mr. C. PELHAM was inaudible in the gallery.
Lord GEORGE LENNOX hoped that, as the ques-
tion was now proposed whether thrashing machines should
be as much under the protection of the law as any other
species of property, some definite answer would be given
by one of the law advisers of the Crown.
Sir R. VYVYAN said the petition related to a subject
on which a considerable variety of opinion had prevailed.
Whatever might he the advantages of the present increase of
machinery, and he was not disposed to under-rate their
value ; certain he was that the poor had not derived all
the advantages therefrom which they ought to have
had. Whatever the remedy might be, or whether it was in
the competency of the Legislature in the existing state
of things, to devise one which he could not well divine.
His opinion was, that if the present generation might some
way or other suffer from the increase of machinery, the
next would enjoy all its advantages.
After a few observatiors from Mr. PAGET, the peti-
tion was ordered to be printed.
Mr. SPRING RICE brought up papers coon cted
with the Irish miscellaneous estimates. The Right Hon.
Gentleman also moved for a new writ for Flint-h re, in
the place of Sir Edward M. Lloyd, raised to the Peerage.
Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN presented a petition from
several individuals on the subject of the Reform Bill.
Sir H. HARDINGE gave notice of his intent-on to
move for Papers on Thursday next, relative to the promo-
tions in the Army, and the reduction of the Half-Pay List.
Lord INGESTRIE presented a petition from the crab.
meters of Dublin, praying for compensation for the loss of
their fees.

Mr. CRAMPTON (the Solicitor-General for Ireland)
though he would not say the coal meters of Dublin bad a
legal claim to compensation, yet could not but think they
had an equitable one.

Mr. SPRING RICE could not conceive what right
these individuals had to compensation. He thought it
rather too hard to say, when Government had re-
pealed a tax fur the gond of the public, that the
parties who had never been employed by the Revenue
should he a:lowed to set up a claim for compensation.
Mr. LEFROY considered the petitioners entitled to
what they prayed for.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT could not see on what ground
Hon. Members held these parties entitled to what they
asked, being persons who had received no wrong by the
repeal of the coil duties.

Mr. SHAW contended that the coal-meters were the
servants of the Government, for whom their exertions
had saved upwards of 12.0001., and that therefore they
were entitled to compensation.
After a few words from Mr. O'CorrNELL, who could
not agree with the Recorder of Dublin, the petition was
ordered to be printed.
Mr. ROBERTSON, previous to submitting the motion
to the House of which he hid given notice, and which be
feared he should be obliged to do in the absence of the
Secretary for the Colonies, wished to present a petition
from Waterford praying the House to take into considera-
tion the state of the island of Newfoundland. The peti-
tioners stated that some years ago their business was ex•
ti emely extensive with that island, but that in con.equeace
of its present state, that trade had been considerably de-
cr. ased. Petition ordered to be printed.
The Hoz.; MEMBEit then begged the attention of the
House to a statement he was compelled to bring forward in
consequence of the unsatisfactory answer which the Nuble
Lord opposite had given him on a former night, when
he stated that he was about bringing to their
consideration the interests of one hundred thousand

of his fellow-subjects, who, having no local Legislature of
their own, were obliged to seek redress of injuries from
Parliament, he felt confident he should receive patient
hearing. He had for three Sessions endeavoured to bring
this subject forward, but the pressure of business of great
importance prevented him, and if he consented to postpone
it now, it would be an abandonment of the subject for
another Session; he could not, consent again to postpone
it, it was well known that Newfoundland was one
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of the most ancient possessions of his Majesty ; and al-
though it certainly was not his intention to charge the
present, or indeed any former Governor, with improper
conduct, he must say, that, if it had had a local Legislature
of ifs own, it ,c=ould have now become one of the
most useful and flourishing colonies.—( Hear, hear.) In
the early period of its history this colony wqs treated
merely as a non-resident fishing colony; and the object of
the few Acts of Parliament relating to it, was merely
to encourage persons to go there in the spring for
the purposes of fishing, and to return home
in autumn, without.. encouraging any permanent
residence there. At length, in spite of the
severe laws which existed, one of which prevented persons
building houses in the colony. Many persons went to reside.
there. The Governors, who were generally Admirals, living
but three months in the summer time in the ,-..010ny, went
so far as to pull down some of the houses, end pull the roofs
off others,. The Hon. Member said, he could read to the
House, a memorial addressed to the Governor, by a highly
respectable individual, praying to be allowed to build
a pig-sitie, and he had the answer of tic Governor's ,
Secretary, in which the Governor's, pumission was given.
This colony had been always considered an Admiralty
colony, the Governo;a being appointed by the Admiraltry;
hence some difficulty arose in effecting ao improvement
in it. Subsequently two Acts were passed of a tempo-
rary nature, namely the f\ th of Geo. IV., cap. 51,
for the encouragement of the fishery,, and in the same year,
cap. 57, for the better administration of justice. It would
have been supposed that previous to the expiration of those
Acts the Government would have inqnired how they had
operated with a view of extending or altering them, but
notwithstanding the retnoostrances that had been made,
showing the bents that :would arise from variooa
alterations, a short Act was introduced tq ehtend
the two former for a period of three years and
a half, and would the limo believe that such
had been the languor of the Government that
the colony had been without any law to govern it for
the spacx of six weeks.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member then
' read a memorial which had been addressed last year by
the inhabitants to hie Majesty, praying to be placed on
the Caine footing as the other colonies, by having the
privilege of n local legislature. He knew from, personal
comrounication with his Majesty, who stated, that he re-
collected having been once in Newfoundland, that his
Majesty sincerely sympathized with the inhabitants...-.
He (Mr. Robertson) asked the Hon. House in what
sta'e they would expect this island to be while it was ex •
aiuded from the advantages possessed by the other colonies.
—(Hear.) It was his intention to move an address to the
Gown on this subject, The Noble Lord opposite he knew
objected to giving a local legislature, from the fear that, as
be thought there was but one town of importance in the
island, namely, that of St. John's, that town
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legislation. He was of opinion that the Government
was bound to Mahe up their 11444 at once, for there

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o this island as wan pitesess,d by tie 0-her colonies.
I'ne present state of the colony was one of peru iar hard-
ship ; and although the land was capable of extensive
cultivation, imports, to a large amount, of potatoes
i id been made from the neighbouring provinces of Prince
Silivarils' Island, Nova Scotia, and even lrelat.d. An-
other very great disadvantage under which the people
here laboured, was the proient uncertainty if the 1:14'.
inch was their situation, that the officers were legislators
old Judges to make, and then decide upon the law.—
knottier part of the proposition he should submit, was to
1 hring, the long disputed question as to the rights
,if fishery in that colony belonging to British subjects,
•oncurrently with the French. might be settled. This
vas certainly of very great importance to that colony
end the inhabitants anxious for i•s settlement, had, at their
•xpetire, fitted out a vessel to determine tl'eir rights. The
Commander received instructions to persevere until forced o
,t, ,ndon, what was called, the French coast. lie failed, t o
French officer of authority was found in the port, but
the French fishermen considering that they hail, the
exclusive right of fishery would permit him not to fish
there by courtesy. He stating his commands, that his
ibject was to establish that right, was afterwards
•jected and compelled by a French naval counnataLr to
quit the station and proceed to Labrador. This colony
was of very great value to this country ; so much so
that the great Lord Chatham used to say it was worth go-
ing to war for. He did not say so, but it was of consequence
and it was one of the articles of our treaty with France
that Great Britain should hold that colony. He hoped
the House would concur with him in the address he should
move to his Majesty, although there was a party in
his country who, though anxious to make all they could
from trading thither, bad nosympath)with the colonists. The
colony had not hitherto given much trouble to this country-,
and did not look, like Canada and others, for any particular
of its produot. He hoped, therefore, that they would hare
legislation given to them over their own affairs. The
Hon. Member concluded by moving an humble address to
his Majesty, praying that he may be pleased to grant
to the ancient and loyal colony of Newfoundland, a Con-
stitutional Legislative Government similar to those enjoyed
by his Majesty's North American colonies, and as nearly ax
possible, in accordance with the principles of the British
Constitution. Praying also, that the right of the British
subjects there, under existing treaties, might be ascertained
Mr._DICKSON seconded the address.

Lord HOWICK complained of the embarrass-
ment in which he was placed in consequence of the inop-
portune manner in which thismotion was brought forward,
and the lion Member hid expressed himself dissatisfied
with the answer which he (Lord H.) ha given to him
a former occasion, it was satisfactory to find that a
public meeting at Poole most intimately connected with
Newfoundlad, bad expressed itself completely satisfied
vitb that answer. The Government, lie bail stated on a
former occasion, were convinced that a chauge :should
take place, but there were great difficulties about the
question.

(Lrrr SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

At Five o'clock the LORD CHANCELLOR. took MR Seta
on the Woolsack.

Lord RADNOR presented two petitions, praying for
the introduction of Poor Laws into Ireland, and one in
favour of Reform, which the Noble Lord read at 1-ngth.
Lord KING sail that the petition expres•ed the opi-
nions of a great mass of the people in this country, and
that it would be well for their Lordships to consider of
that opinion, and not go on in such a manner as to bring
these masses of the people to inquire into the use of
that House, and give a colour to those who said that
that llouse had no character to lo,e.—(The Noble Lard
was here interrupted by loud cries of Order, and several of
their Lordships rose at once.

Lo:.(IKEIsfYON spoke to order, but such a noise pre-
vailed we could not catch what he said.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rnov(d that the
o ords of the Noble Lord (King) be taken down, but he
almost immediately withdrew it.

Lord KING did not mean to give offence to any of
their Lordship., but mrrely advice. When he said that
this House had no character to lose, he only meant_
(Order, order.)

The Marquis of SALISBURY moved that his Lord
ship's words should be taken down.

The question was then put, and the
LORD CHANCELLOR rose. and said the No►le Lord
Lord (King) was only explaining when he for the second
time used the words which had given offence, and he (the
Lord Chancellor) considered that be bad a perfect
right so to explain. In his opinion, the Noble Lord
did not say that this House had no character to lose,
but only it their Lordships did nut do so, and so it would
give a colour to the representations of those who were of
that opinion.
The Marquis of SALISBURY did not mean to stop the
explanation of the Noble Lord, but he wished that the
words should be taken down, in order that the House
might have an opportunity to take such a course as it
might think Sr.
At the present moment, when many persons were trying
to inflame right-minded people against their Lordships, he
thought it very improper that such offensive words should
fall twin a Noble Member of that House, and therefore he
thought it his duty to persist in his !notion.
Lord KING explained—He said the words were not his
own, and he merely used them, in giving their Lordships
a piece of advice.

Lord WHARNCLIFFE did not think that this country
was so near the brink of such a precipice as the Noble
Lord would warn them of. If when the Reform Bill
came up to that House, it should be thrown out, it would
not be that their I.,rdships wished to keep their
ntluenee in the House of Commons, but that the Peers
saw danger in the new Constitution.
The Marquis of SALISBURY—The Noble Lord
(King) having stated that he did not mean any thing
disrespectful to this Clouse, he woulsl withdraw his motion.
The motion was withdrawn.

The Archbishop of CANTERBURY presented a peti-
tion against the Beer Bill.

The Duke of RICHMOND moved the second reading
of the Game Bill ; read a second time, and ordered to be
committed on Moaday.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY wished to ask the
Noble Earl (Grey) when the Portuguese papers__
which had been promised for a considerable time,
would be laid upon the table of the House ; also
where there would be any objection to lay the opinions
of the Judge Advocate, respecting the seizure of the Portu-
guese ships by the French, before the House. He would also
take this opportunity of asking the Noble Earl where the
present English fleet was destined—whether to the Tagus
to take what was left by the French ?

Earl GREY said the Noble Marquis was perfectly
aware that these papers could not be made out in
such a very short time, but as soon as they
were ready they would be laid on the table. As
to the opinion of the Judge Advocate, he at present saw
no reason for withholding it but would consider of it. As
to the third point on which the Noble Marquis touched he
did not consider him elf • bound to answer the surmises
of the Noble Ma, quis.

The Alarquis of LONDONDERRY then give notice
of a motion on the subject for to-morrow.
(LUT SITTING.)

MANUFACTURING SKILL of RUSSIANS.
—A Russian merchant visited in 1827 the warehouse of
A silk-merchant at Leipsic, who had also a house of kind-
ness at Lyons. The Russian purchased a dozen pieces of
French silk, and with these obtained many patterns of
various kinds of fabrics wrought in this material. At the
fair of the following year the astonishment and niertifica-
tion of the German merchant were sot a little excited, on
finding his ex-purchaser converted into a competitor, and
offering a complete assortment of silken stuffs manufactured
at Novogorod, from the identical patterns which he had
himself unwittingly furnished.—Dr. Lardner's Cabifiet
Cyclopedia, Vol. XXII.

GALT'S LIVES OF TIIE PLAYERS, OW
published.)---" Undoubtedly there is not in the whole
range of biography any class characters at all to hr e, tn-
pared to that of the actors. They command our best sym-
pathies, because they have afforded us entertainment by
the exercise of their talents, eliciting the exquisite tear, or
the loud laugh, as the scene varied from grave to gay, and
leaving upon our minds impressions not easily to be re-
moved. The style of these volumes is precisely what it
ought to have been, fluent, lively, and devoid of all einem-
loeution."—Monthly Review.

CONDITION OF FRENCII ARTIsAN3.—Si-
DIOND has described the poverty of the silk-weavers, resi-
dent in and near the city of Lyons, as being more abject
than any thing within the experience of our own artisans.
Th?re, as with us, the rninulteture is in s crest degree
do oestic, most of the weavers exeeoti,,g- thew labour in
their own dwellings. The abodes of the French weave,.
are, however, wretched in the extreme, one room, twer_ry
feet -quare, not unfrequently
'erring every purpore, twth
iDr. Lardaer's Cabinet yds? cedia Vol. XXIL.
as a dwelling and NVOt k.hop for three 'min' fattiaitf,