The Sun.
London, England, 1813-05-25 00:00:00

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atentes might chatge. Tie did riot then say this
woold be final, but he would Say, that if the Pao-
teatants Ware ;trong enough, to guard against those
abuses which uligh •be anticipated, if taking a .
foadainental measure' which treated the Ca-
tholics as friends, guarding each party from exter-
nal danger, be thought. thete \vault' be no very
gloat difficulty in arranaing most. of. the -points
that
,would conic into discussion., Ale thought
the seeds of discontent had: been sown in Ireland
by going into needless details. It they wished. to
perpetuate these unfortunate discontents, they
would do well to revive such discussions; but if
they ,wished to make a proper impression on the
Catholic, mind, the paotestants 'should look at the
subject like Statesmen, and not. make the diffe-
rences between them the subject of an annual striae.,
gle, which on the broad principle of mutual conci-
liation, might be settled at once. That act of Pa-
pile), in another country which had recently been.
brought to light, in his opinion was so far from
-furnishing an argument against this measure, that
it made the strongest possible appeal to Parlia-
ment in its favour.. It at once displayed the true:
,situation of things,- it disqlosed the whole call:,
and set before their eyes the remedy for the
evils apprehended. It proved that the authority
of the See of Rome could not effectually contend
against the: State,. armed -`Witli that protection,
which, if the present act were passed in a. spirit
of liberality, it would be their power to give
themselves. It could no longer be said of the
Catholieadvocates, that they•liad na specific ar-
rangemeets to propose. They had now, he re-
joiced to say, a substantial intelligible measure to
offer, the general provisions of which his flight
Hon. Vriend,. with all his constitutional jealousy
of innovation, had not theatght deserving of cen-
sure. To some of the arrangements suggested by
that Right Hon. Gent. (the Speaker) be had no ob-
jection ; but he observed, that the matters. which
he had brought forward a little ostentatiously, for .
securing the Catholic solider the 'uninterrupted
exercise of his religion, had not been particularly
noticed, because it had not been found to press on
him se as to give cause for complaint. lie under-,
stood the argument of_ the Right lion. Gentle,-
man,agaiet the Clause to be this--that under no
circumstances ought (:atholics to be adMitted to
sic in Parn,:!llCA; but looking ut all circumstances
walla! he 'his hand on 4i4 heart. and say, that it
the.Catholies conducted themselves with coalman'
prudence, if they :vou!dgive up all that, asCatholies,
honest niep, theycould give Withollt S3CII-.
tieing one iota of their religion, would the Right
Hen. (.3- at. say, a system ar eaclusion,should be a
permanent systeth ? If he thought' such a system
could not !)e. permanent, he would not think that
the basis of one more dui•able ought not to be
held to unite both Protestants ,and Catholics, and
that it should be doha immediately' to con-
ciliate, instead of going on further to exas-
perate•each other. lie was surprised at the ap-
prehensiona of 'the Right lion. Gentleman. lie
had thought he hati ditticulties,about the securi-
ties to . be- propos ci ; hat when ,securities were
brought forward, be had not anticipated difficulty
iii concession. He had heard may Oeittleniena
say, -thatif the Catholics wonTh take theoath of
supremacy, all objections :to. admitting them to
equal participation of the rte vantages Of the Con-
stitution would- vanish) and ,they would. be too
happy to act wita those who were thus reeoaciled,
to the State. He thought their religion was not
opposed to their taking the oath in a manner that-
ought to be every Way satisfactory; but it, was
creditable to thein in a moral point of, view, that
they refused to take it, think lug, .as they did,
• that it Was incompatible with the existence of any
power in the head dal their Church. They ad-
mitted, however, that the Pnpe hail Oo tempo-
oath power • If what were -.ailed mixed, cases;
wire: submitted to hila bringing; the deei-
aioris of the' See ot.::.use under the cognizance
of their own responsible: officer,: they in filet
brotight those mixei cases itudertheir own ju—
risdiction. ' A loop-aole, it noel been-said, would
still he left, and this heeihnitted !night be,true,
as was frequently the case in laegialation ; but,
he contended that the Protestants would add to
their strength, by sheiviug that the Englih Con-,
stitittion did not depend upon a system of excluaa
sion to shield it frovedanger from abroad. The-
. existing dilferenees removed, be could not bea:
lien the Roman Catholies would remain together
a solid body, always complaining 'of grievances,
and endeavouring -to. make (agreements with the
'Minister of the day, as some Gentlemen had sup-
posed they might do. If be thought the men-
sure put the Protestant church in danger, much
a&.he.altottld lament the necessity of doing t 0,,, he
should oppose it; hitt in a popular Constitution
like ours the predotninanee of the Protestant
religion most be so complete from the Crown, and :
the publieestablishMents being Itrotestant, that
he felt oolie Of the 'alarm with which this mensure
bad been contemplated in various quarters. He
thettight it not improbable that some of the. Gen-
tlernee sent to Parliament by'eutholics exerted
themselves With greamr warmth, in favour ctf the .
CitholiCs than would be found in Catholics them-
selves. He did nut, think, therefore, that the ‘,
chinge.wonid Mica' the Cathedica, Whose poWdr
was not felt Within those walls in, the manner'
supposed, but they would feel that the brand of
distrust wastiow 'removed, and habits of mutual
confidence would soon grow out'of the:change.—
He chid not think it desirable to keep up an annual
.strtiggle,ria if fee the purrpoe ofaacerta Ding how
long pee:party could hold out in petting forth
elaieis, and with how munch ill 'nature they conld
be received by the other, "years he hail
been satisfied that a measurelike the present could
:alone extricate the colleens of England front the :
difficulties with which they were beset lie re.
joiecd at the .c.!:111),:r 111 rritich the• Measure had
been night-forward by those who formerly; eon-
temled that no securities Were necessary, end was
glad they 'Were prepariug td sliew the Catholics,
what- tidy could and would do to relieve them.
no booed 'the wrist spirit' of liberality would be
seen threarghout. He had the greatest respect
for the seutinieets of those who opposed him,
• and with araeeti he cordially ia.,,,,reed the genolit
.policy of tik. COUntry. It was with anguish that
he (Herod from them on any subieet ; limit in the
pr sent inatuace Nacre to sheae ma,,an:
‘aialey r'luepersonal favoer with whir Is thelehed
honoured himuu inanyectasions; were he hot to