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HOUSE OF COMMONS,

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The Irish Loan Charge Rill was .qatl'a second tide, and
committed for to-morrow.
Mr,. WuAtrroN brought op a Report of the Committee on
Mr. Palmer'.: Claims, which Was read and agreed to, and a
Bin ordered accordingly. ,
The Mod: Auction Wit went through a Committee, the Re-
port to be rcceived ta-morrow.
SEAMEN'S WA.CiES AND PRIZE MONEY.
Sir F. Bo Itowtr i case tO renew his observations
on the subject of facilitating the payment of sea-
wages and prize money to their surviving
relations. Some Measure of this kind, be said,
was in justice due to:these brave men ; and -he
could; see-no Objection to the House agreeing to
this, rather, than content themselves with the
grant of barren thanks: and honours. Instead of
this, however, obstacles were throWn in' the way
of the claimants receiving information, as the
very' clerks were bound by oath not to divulge the
secret to them. He concluded with moving, that
evt,n•y six calendar months a list should he publish-
, ecl i tr the Cr tee Of the, uncliiiiiectiiogeijaftit
prize rnorley due to deceased seamen, specifying
the Places where they were borer. •
Mr. CROKER saw no reasOn for agreeing to this
motion ; the matter had been often and thorough-
ly sifted by Parliament, a*id' nothing of the kind
proposed had ever been thought necessary. The
system of the Honourable Baronet would lead to
an 'endless !train of fraud, imposture, end forgery..
He noticed, With great'severity, the.Coricealments
of the Henourable Baronet, in stating his ease,
.and Unfairly keeping out of sight the main features
'which bore upon the charge. !'That information
from the relatives of'thepersons iar,question, the
Clerks werenot allo'tt'ed to give it without the per-
mission of their superiqrs, because ,ltat would en-
able swindlers and sharpers to defraud both GO-
vernment am' the seamen's friends. 'f he money
which was unclaimed was allotted to Greenwich,
Hospital ; from the interest of it they provide,d
for the meritorious seaman, and the principal WAS
left untouched for the claimants, should they ever
appear ; .yet this beneficial appropriation the 'Ho-
neurable Barenet came down to the House, with
his charges, ignorant, of: He :adverted to Lord
Coehraue's four eases, on a former night, and
contradicted the Noble Lord's statements as much
in fact as. he land, done on principle. He pastieularly
specified the e.4se of William Ford, of the impe-
dense) tunu denied eVery'cireumstance asserted 4y
the• Noble Lord as consistent with his own know-
ledge,. Also the 'case of Sarinta Milton, his Lord-
sit ip'S own CONSWain. which was equally unfound-
ed. 'l4 third case of Farley 'was just as trne as
allithea•est. If the Noble Lord diseharged, as he
said he bad discharged,' sixty men from the Pallas,
on his own responsibility (his fourth::case) then
he hod falsified the ship's books which were sign-
ed by himself, and which only stated 15 discharged
for various causes during the whole time of his
command. The 'N'obleLord had said there was no
protnotion butbyborou.gh influence and corruption,
to controvert this, the Hon. Secretary instanced
his Lordship's Own Licht. Ury Johnston, in whose
favOurthelaw had been suspended by an Order in
Council, on the Noble LOrdl
'Knowing this, it was not candid the ;.:.',Ortde_
recount-tenth-100n.--
Lord to come down with such nik-st:Atenictirteiliq
bodied in his Resolation3. Ile ne.r..t
the charges that had
rt
' Lord ECLI"Vc ti> lia;1
by refilling' to dl!t:,A Act ,
so Uthliirtible a iklnace. and (~ L.;
CCSitzicifiy of Carden, Wiio
.nrriKvd
day hilts with means to contradict
it:r '1.(1:11fe oilfritthisehhtiaatr;yti,eßSsolulitlti(titi:thleyattrstecrniel:eltrtioldtilttie°l::
aft that the Noble Lord had 'stated.—As another
by 'the. Noble Lord, he bad also day the' plea-
mirc,of .huying received the official detail of. the
co.pture of the Chesapeake American
the -littntiOn, of inferior
farce,
shout indeed, but not surpassed
lo vaur by .any of single ship
vi:i
eel even the annals' of our navy (Mar !)---frc-
ttui•ted the House would excuse 'hint while he

ciefly stated the circumstances of this achieve-
7gient to the Noble Lord (item., hear l) The
Chesapeake came out front harbour ltdly manned
and prepared for -the conflict, 'aid ranged up along
side of the Shannon. Hew crew consisted of
440 men, that of the Shannon amounted to 310 ;
sbi;wks of 150 tons greater hurdle'', and. carried
49 guns; tie S',annon e..o.rying only 44'. No
other ship' was in sifrlit at the time of the action.
Of .this inferior force, the British frigate engaged
the enemy, and in 15 minutes site was ber prize.
—The fight columenced wilt.'" the vessels were
very .near to each ,mther, and the fire from the
.Shannon,, frinn . its tremendous' precision, was
irresistible. She poured.in her broadsides with
dreadful accuracy and etfeet, and the ships having
got.entangled„ .Capi.•Broke ran forward to make
his observations—he folind that the enemy flinched
from theirgunsHthe hoarders were instantly called
tip—the word was. boarded the enemy
from everydeck,,and in three titillates from this time
t were driven from every quarter, and the ship
in possession of the conquerors, Nay, .of these
heartless sailors the verymen on the tops boarded'
from the slipperY hold of the yard,' and cut down
their opponenti in ;he very rigging of their vessel.
Captain Broke himself, who from the beginning
of the war had nobly 'destroyed his prizes, and
sunk the dross with which they were laden to the
bottom of the sea, rather than weaken his crew
for enterprizes of glory. Captain Broke himself
bad had the honour of being sabred down on the
deck of the Chesapeake, while storming the fore-
castle at the bead of his men. (Cheering,),ln this
gallant affair not a sail or a rope was cut, and the
too vessels (as was ..,described in
,the dispatch)
sailed away together as; if they had Only been fir-
log a feu de statement' was received
with frequent and loud cheering, and was deli-
vered with much animation by the Honourable
Secretary, who 'then proceeded to say, that the
Noble Lord*was still more unwarranted in otter
aspersions he had cast; I-Ic mentioned this action
not as triumph,' but to enable hint to refute the
,Noble Lord's.aspersions, as coining thus oppor-
tunely. If the Noble Lord came down every
month', he should be enabled to furnish an answer
equally satisfactory, front the acknowledged cha-
racter of the Navy of Britain. .After a,number
of very cutting reflections, he concluded by oppo-
sing the motion, as of a nikchieYous tendency.
Lord CdenttAtqc reiterated his statements re-
specting the hardships of harbour duty imposed
on old seamen, and explained his assertions with
'regard to Ford, 'Milton,' and Farley. He con-
tended that he hail confirmed all the material

facts he had formerly urged. He brongLt for-
ward a new case of hardship, in a person he did
'did tint name, andchargedwthe Adiniraliy with a
variety of matters. with which he was dissatisfied.
Hr would, prove all his chiu:ges, 'and that the con-
duct of the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty
operated its a drawback on exertion. He also ad-
yerted to the case .of Lieutenant Johnston? and
said he was placed at the bottom of the list, made
at that time out of spite to him. Other promo--
tions, he alleged, had taken place of .otlicers
guilty , of gross and wilful perjury, with the
connivance of the Court on the Courts Mar-
JAM relative to the affair of Basque Roads. This
he Avonld.also undertake to prove He
,again re-
peated many of his former assertions as materially
veneer, and said that ilr. C.roker was entirely
ig-
iootant of the affairs of the Navy, except as to an-
awcring
,official letters.' He' then contrasted the
rwenagement of this branch of the service with the
military. In the army' all was zeal and energy—
.not so in the navy, where borough influence con-
trouled Fot»otion, and exertions in that House
procured advancement more than servite.
Caoltrit denied the " material facts" of
the Noble Lord. The cases, as he produced them,
be took doWn in his oWri words, and had posi-
tively contradicted them. With respect to Lieut.
thy Johnston, he was., the .junior Lieutenant •
promoted, and as the la* teas: suspended in his.
favour, he was of course the lowest on the list.
.The insinuation of the NohlLord, he was stir- .
prised, could, come from 'Alberni mind. It was
ungenerous rand unworthy, and he left it to the
contempt it deserved.
LordCocirlitAKE explained. _

Mr. Aidertrom ATKINS felt it his duty.to
press his indignation at the conduct of the Noble
Lord. Adverting to some expressions issued by
the Noble Lord, when speaking of the duties
'ia.hieh seamen were sometimes obliged to per-
form, be co•iii:•'eived that, the intention of the
Noble, Lord nas to make it iippear that the .Bri-
tish seamen were di'S'satisin“.l at being employed to
clean the ships.
A 14611 S k Lord"Coctru_KE appeaet wbe
ther his expressions could be so interpreted.
vlie SPEAKER said, that the inference •to be
draont from what had been :said by the Noble
LOrd,:was such as had been stated by the lion.
Gentleman, although his .language did not di-
nctly imply it.
_ _

Sii P. 11.1111iETT obser'ved, that the statements
made by.die Noble Lord hint been grossly misre-
presented by those who professed to refute them.
The Noble Lord bad brought forward a state-
w-htit heeoneeived to be ahuses.in the
N,,vy, and wished the Llouse to take steps to
r:utedy those abases. If the motion of the Noble
Lord haa.be n e coMplied With; the Naval Service,
so, far from being dissatisfactory to seamen, would
have been ..the very reverse. 'Fhe,conduct of the

Noble Lord had :ken highly honourable, as he

had done that tvbicil he-conceived to be art ha-

periotis duty: The Hon. Baronet then brie-fly re-
plied to some of the arguments which had been
urged against his, motion, and expressed his de-
term;nation to take the sense of the House on the

qttostion. •
Tile house aecortliogilivitted, when we nn-
derstoott the nuniLers to be.

Against it

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Major ity......
vtr. Titmxtvr nioveil that the Adjourned De-
b Ate can the Minancial Resolutions should be put
ofr till that day fortnight, with a view to post-
poniug It till the next SeNsion.
• EAST INDIA PILL. „ •
Mr.; ROBERT Timms/TON, in the name of the
Company, be2ged the Noble Lord not to hurry
Hotv,e into the report of the 1.4'41,5t India BM
CO that night, as the Court of topneturs bad not

an opport►inity of CanAderin: the Bill since ft had
gone through t,►e Comulittee. flu therefore hop-
ed, that the Noble. Lord would be persuaded to
postpone the report till to-morrow.
Lord- CASTI.LREACII hail ito objection, iirovid-
ed the Report shouhl be gone into to-ntorrow,
before the House proceeded 'to any Other busi-
ness.

Mr. TienNev wished ,the Noble Lord to post-
pone the third reading of the Bill till Tuesday.
Lord CASTLEREAG H replied, that he could not.
Mr.'l'itoatsoN hoped that the Noble Lord would
not agree to any unnecessarYdelay,.and therefore
trusted that the. Report would not be delayed be
yond to-morrow.
The report of the Stipendiary Curates Bill was
taken into, further consideration.
Mr. WESTERN opposed the 13111, on:the ground
that it would operate against a class of the Clergy
whose interests ought not to be neglected
Mr. THOMSON spoke in favour of the
He observed, that although the object of the
Bill was to give respectability to Citrates, yet,it
would not deprive any man of what he then pos-
sessed, 'as it was prospective in its Operation. Not
only would he support that Bill, but he n+leil ttint
SOME stronger measure should be introduced for the,
purpose of preventing the non residence of Clergy,
and also for facilitating the building oichurehes,
for it was well known that in -many towns in
England the whole number of churches was not
sufficient to contain more than one half of the in-
habitants.
Mr. CourtrENAY opposed the. Bill, and Mr. Ser-
jeant ONSL OW SUp pOtteti
Mr. PoLL CAREW wished the Bill to be with-
drawn, for the ptirpose of making way for some
measure which would be, more etic,ctual in its;
operation.
_ _

111 r. TnallNT•row said, that he himself, as Well
as the others who supported the Bill, did not wish
it to be looked on as a perfect measure ; but mere-
ly as a step sowards perfection.
WEiIIERALL oppo;ed the Pill.
Wif.e ERFORCE said, that the strongest ar-
gument he bad heard against the Bill was, that it
would not he complete. Ckntlenten objected to
the means, without proposing .any other more
adequate. It was of the essence of the Church
at England, that there should be -a resident
Clergyman in each parish. lie was convinced
that the Bill would be of great advantage -to the
country. •
Air. JOHN SMITH doubted whether the end pro-
.. ..
posed'coulti in'any material degra be prOdUced by
the Bill. There was no provision in the Bill, to
secure the residence even of Curates, lie objected
to the Bill, as too sweeping an alteration of the
Church.

Mr. ABERCROMBY supported the Bill.
The House then divided on the fuither consi-
deration—

For it
Agnirist it
Majority
The Bill, after some verbal amendments, was
ordered tco he readia third time to-morrow.
The Admiralty Registrar Bill was read a third
time. On the gnestion that it do now pass,
Mr. IL MArtTIN Opposed the passing of the Bill,
as tending to recognise the legality of the use hi-
therto made of the suitors-money—
Lord CASTLEREAGLI supported it. The office
was one granted in freehold, -and the emolomenes.
arising from the suitors money always attended
the office. If the suitors thought the security in-
sufficient they had their remedy. They in his opi-
nion would do their duty by making the: bill merely
prospective.

Sir S. 1-1-purta.v opposed the bill so far as it went
to continue to the pt esent holder of the office the
emoluments arising from suitors money.
Mr. STEPHEN contended there was no reason
for postponing the passing of the Bill till next
Session, the clause having been amply discussed
in a full House. There, was nothing illegal in
the Registrar's applying the interest of the money
in his bands to his own use, lie begged 'the
House to .remeaiber that after, all, the question
-was merely whether the Rank of Finglansi should
take the interest on this money, or the officer by
_whom it had hitherto been received.
Mr. CoultrENav, though he had originally been
in' favour of the Bill, yet on account'of the'ob-
noxious clause which had been introduced, lie
should vote against it.

Sir JOHN IfICHOLG spoke in favour of the Bill.
Mr. ABEIWILOMBIE could See no reason for re-
garding Lord Arden as having any right to the
interest of the money committed to his care.
'fhe House divided, when the numbers were--
For the Bill'
Against it . 9

Majority.
The Bill was then passed.—Atijourned at 12
o'clock.

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17117).4Y, JULY 9, ISI3,

We this day- present our Readers with a mass of
most interesting intelligence contained in Ameri-
can Papers to June 12, which we have just received
by the Halifax Mail. Under our Ship News will
be found a minute account of the brilliant action
between the Shannon auff Chesapeake, which, not-
withstanding the. admirable description of th.it
event from Mr. CROICER, in his plhei iu 1/mli,,
ment last night,
,(very faintly done justice to
in newspaper reports), will be perused with
feelings of satisfaction, greater, perhaps, than
the cause altogether warrants. We Ituow that 1

the, result of this contest is pre:-I•ely what we
do: and ought to -expect Iron-) the valour' of
firiiith seamen—that we have no reason to.ex.-
ult in it—but 'still it is a high degree
sueable to reeelV6 this practical denninstration
of the truth of what we have ever affirned.. that
With any thing like equal means, the spirit and
skill of our navy is if resistible. It is also verY t'a-
tklactory to have lowered the tone of American
gaienuading by a con% incing proof of ourzaval
superiority, and it is even 'some advantage
to halie put mtrzzlesbn the babbling mouths of
Lord COCirRANE te.,(l his fellows, who date to,
state that our gallant tars are a " heartless and
disheartened" body of men. All these things we
owe to the brave Captain Baote and his crew,
worthy of their Commander as they have slam')
themselves to be.

Capt. BitoKE," says another American Jour-
' nal, " having directed the Tenedos, his late-con-
sort, to leave Boston Bay, with a view of itiduc=
mg the Chesapeake to; venture out, on Tuesday,
the Ist, inst. that ship, commanded by Captain
LAWRENCE, lately promoted Item the United
States slonp Hornet, left *the Howls and put to
sea, manned with piacd seamen, and completely
fitted, in
,eyery point for action. The Shannon
dropped, under • easy sail, a 'few milei from. the
"hind ; and, at half-past five R. M. the Chesa-
peake came up on her weather quarter, and
was instantly saluted with a sweeping and most
destructive fire. The action commenced at little
rotas: than half-pistol-shot ; and, in a few minutes,
the terror-struck enetni fell alorg-side of the
Si/att/ion—and was boarded 'by the gallant Capt.
IltioKE, his firSt Lieutenant, a few other Officers,
seaalcn; and Marines, with -an impetuosity that
bore down all resistance. Though the,reSu4
such a meeting might have been very fairly anti-

eipitted ; yet, the lightning-like rapidity of the
hetinn (not exceeding 10 or 11 minutes) seems
unparidlelcd, even in the annals of the lid-