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LONDON, SATURI)AY EVENING, NOVEMBER 19, 1831.

tnoaitv, and of substituting, by example as well as by pre-
cept, 'mutual benevolence, conciliation, and good-will.
Such should be the first duty, as it is the most power-
ful argument, in support of a great National Union.
Secondly,—The cause of Reform is the cause of the
people. The Ministerial plan will not give the people all
they desire and want, but it will destroy the power of the
enemies of the people. Mark--this is the treat and deci-
sive advantage of the Ministerial plan of Reform—it will
cripple every enemy of the people—it will pare the fangs
and chain the teeth of the brutal and most selfish oligarchy
—it will increase popular influence in the same ratio
that it diminishes aristocratic controul. The Bill is not
every thing we could wish ; but it destroys much of what
we justly hate. It disarms the master-hand of the whip
and the tomahawk, anti it gives to the lowly and op-
pressed additional strength and fresh arms. The power
to nominate Members—the audacious crime of selling the
power to make laws and levy taxes—that monster of ini-
quity, known only to Parliamentary history in these
countries.—the astonishing crime of selling for money, or
place, or pension, the authority to make laws respecting
life and death, and taxation—that is, selling the power to
spare life and property, or to commit robbery and
murder, for such is the amount of this power when
abused—the- almost incomprehensible crime of selling that
power is to be extinguished by the Ministerial Bill for ever.
I trust that the time is not fir distant when the youth
of Britain will not be apt to credit the history which tells
them the two ficts—lst, that there were in Britain mis-
creants so profligate and audacious as to traffic and make
sale of that power ; and, 2dly, that there were Britons
sufficiently tame, submissive, and besotted, as to endure
the continuance of such crimes.
When the recent decision of the House of Lords shall be
communicated to these youths, how their blood will boil
with indignation at the turpitude of those who rejected
her Reform, and the tameness of those who submitted
to such rejection! They will not understand our chastened
and subdued temperament, nor the impulses of duty that
make us tolerate a monstrous evil, lest we should produce
by a violent collision evils of perhaps greater magnitude.
To avoid the greater evil,—to ensure the destruction
of the evil of misgovernment,—to obtain by peareable
means the abolition of all these abuses,—is the object of
the Ministerial measure of Reform. These abuses, how-
ever, are supported by a well-organized power, trained by
long experience in all the details of oppression and division.
It is only by a treat and powerful union of all true- hearted
Reformers that the force of the corruptionists can be re-
sisted. It is only by such a union that the strong holds
of corruption can be assaulted and demolished. In the
political as in the military fieat—to act with certainty of
success—we must act in masses, and not fritter away our
strength in miserable detail.
Thirdly,—The next reason which induces me to sup-
port a National Union is this: there is a National Union
in England, and another in Scotland, and both these have
been instituted and are sustained by some of the most
sincere friends of liberty in both countries. We have the
advice and example of good men to guide and encourage us,
But the case of Ireland is stronger still. England has
a domestic Legislature, and public opinion acts directly and
immediately on the members of that body. They are, at
present, in a state to be regulated, if not controlled, by
pubic opinion. Scotland also shares in that advantage.
But as to Ireland, the public voice, hitherto enfeebled by
division, has been unable to do more than whisper our
complaints. The Legislature is too remote from us. The
Irish Members are too few. The Government itself is
not sufficiently alive to the real state of Ireland. and most
unfortunately toe active and only efficient man of business
belonging to the Irish department (Mr. Stanley) is the
man in the world most unfit for administering our affairs.
Alt his opinions—all his prejudices—all his materials of
thought—are anti-Irish. He is naturally a Tory of the
first water. He is a high churchman, believing in the
divine right of tithes, ceases, and compulsory oblations.
To him a tithe-proctor is a respectable person and a la-
miehins, Irish peasant, disposed to resist the claim to his
tenth potato, put in by a clergyman he never:law or heard,
and would not believe if he heard him to eternity,—Mr.
Stanley cares little fur the cry of that poor peasant's
hungry family. He thinks the peasant a man fit us be
first imprisoned, and next transpot ted in this world, and
to be dawned to all eternity in the next.
Let me introduce a fact, a single fact. An English-
man, Lord John Russell, had the introductiou and care of
the English Reform Bill. A Scotehman, the celebrated
Mr. .1, ffeey, had the introduction and etre of the Scotch
Reform Bill ; neither country was insulted by intrusting
so interesting a measure to a stranger ; but Ireland is.
always treated with contumely. Mr. Stanley, an Eng-
lishman, got the introduction and care of the Irish Reform
Bill ; and, accordingly, mark how naturally it occurred—
the English Reform Bill greatly extended the franchise,
and enormously increased the number of voters; the Irish
Reform Bill, on the contrary, lessened, actually lessened,
the franchise, and in fact diminished the number of voters.
But this is not all : the Irish Reform Bill was first brought
on, as will as the English and Scotch Bills, in the late
Parliament, before the dissolution. They were all printed
at the time. When the new Parliament met, the Eng-
lish Bill was, as every body knows, brought in again, and
it was brought into the House this second time in a state
improved in many detail, and much more popular in
many particulars. The Scotch Bill was also much en-
larged in its provisions, and greatly improved. Now I
come to the Irish. Mark the difference. The Irish Bill
was brought in the second time, with all its details ren-
dered worse, and with the franchise more restricted still !
The Irish was worse, in the first instance, that the Eng-
lish and Scotch. In the second instance, it was rendered
'not only infinitely less efficient than the English or Scotch,
but worse, beyond any comparison worse, than the first
Itish Bill. After Mr. Stanley had thus acted, am Ito
blame if I proclaim him totally d,squalificd from doing
justice to Ireland ? He is, however, coming here again.
We are to have him ruling our destiny once more in a
few days.
Is there one honest Irish Reformer living, who will
nut see the necessity of a National Union, if it were for
no other purpose but to obtain the full benefit of the Re-
form Bill for Ireland. Without the power to be derived
from such a national combination, we cannot reckon on
getting the third Bill even as good as the second. The
second was wcrse than the first. Why may not the third
be worse than the second ? Who can tell me that Mr.
Stanley is not at this very moment concocting more re-
strictions for the Irish Reform Bill ? lam sure Ido not
know; but this I know, that if we can form a National
Union we will be able to rouse all Ireland to insist that
Mr. Stanley's restrictions shall be flung away, and that
Ireland shall and must—l say give me but a National
Union, and Ireland shall and must, get as full a Reform as
England or Scotland—we ask no more. It is just we
should get as much, and we will not take less. Every
Reformer, therefore, who thinks Ireland as well entitled to
justice as England or Scotland,will join the National Union.
Scotland with a population of only 2,000,000 is to get
an addition of nine new Members. Ireland with a popu-
lation of 8,000,000, is allotted by Mr. Stanley only five
new Members. Indeed, I should say only four, because
the College of Dublin,—a single college ! ! with, at the
utmost, even under the new system, no more than 200
electors,—is, forsooth, to have the fifth Member ; that is,
Dublin College, with 200 electors, is to have two Mem-
bers. I believe nothing half so preposterous and insulting
was ever dreamt of in managing the affairs of any country
but Ireland.
The fact is, that it would tend to morality, to the pro-
motion of peaceful literature, and to the extinction of po-
litical profligacy in the College, that there should be no
election for a Member, and of course no Mena's:cr. But to
• think of giving a second Member ! ! I will venture to as-
sert that no second head in the universal world, save only
that of Mr. Stanley, would have entertained the idea of
giving the fifth Member to the College—all Ireland being
only as four, and Trinity College as one !
Let me see but a powerful National Union, and I may
promise that the absurd, and, to the people of Ireland in-
sulting, proposal shall not be carried into effect. The Na-
tional Union will bring every county, city, town, and
parish in Ireland into operation to prevent the Irish Re-
form Bill from being disgustingly mutilated, and to insist
on its being efficacious and full.
Scotland has 45 Members—one-fifth more is to be
added, making the entire 54. Ireland has 100 Member,
—one-twentieth only is to be added, making the entir,
but 105. Mr. Stanley reckons the Irish of only one-
fourth of the value of the Scotch. Alas, that we hay,
not somebody to estimate us as highly as the Scotch !
It
so, we should have 120 Members under the Reform Bill,
instead of 105.
Now, I value the Scotch quite as highly as I do „any

other nation under the sun. The people of Ireland are
quite satisfied, and indeed very desirous, th it Scotland
should get her additional nine Members ; and we did assist,
and are ready again to assist the Scotch for that purpose.
But I 'ell 111 c. Stanley that we do insist on equal justice
to Ireland, and we therefore demand 120 Members as the
quota for Ireland.
Fourthly,—The next want of a National Union consists
in the necessity for having sonic public body sufficiently
powerful to overawe the Anti-Irish spirit of the revenue
boards in England. The distilling trade in Ireland is un-
justly depressed. The soap-manufacture in Ireland is un-
justly injured. The piper manufacture in Ireland is all
hut annihilated. There was, in 1821, a report made by
English revenue officers in Dublin to the Excise Boards
in London, suggesting that all eaciseable manufacture
should be discouraged in Ireland, and, of course, encou-
raged in England, giving as a reason, that the revenue
was more easily and mere cheaply collected in England.
This suggestion was considered so atrocious, that it must
be rejected. It was rejected in words, but I appeal to
every excised manufacturer in Ireland, whether it has not
been efficiently and most oppressively acted upon. The
Irish paper trade is, I repeat it, in the actual plicess of
being annihilated. Had the late Administration not taken
off the excise duty on leather, I do not think there would
be at this moment one dozen tanners in all Ireland. The
soap manufacturers are suffering from the iniquitous sys-
tem in England of drawbacks. The distillers of Ireland
are suffering from a similar system in Scotland. They
are to be seen a wealthy and influential body, but yet the
National Union would give them greater power ; it would
hold a shield over every other trade and manufacture in
Ireland—it would collect and condense the material facts
relating to every grievance arising in any branch of Irish
commerce, arid bring it for redress before Parliament,
with a distinctness and efficacy that could never be pro-
duced by individual complaints.
We therefore want a National Union to protect and en-
caurace Irish commerce and manufactures.
Fifth,—We want such an Union to attend to the repeal
of the Sub-letting Act, and of the Vestry Acts—to the
abolition of unjust tolls and customs, and of every corpo-
rate monopoly—to the care of public education, so that it
should be left free from sectarian persecution, and bigotted
interference.
Sixth,—We want a National Union to obtain full jus-
tice for the citizens of Dublin relative to the metal-main
robbery, arid to the procuring a supply of water at a saving
of 10,0001., out of 13,000/. per annum.
Seventh,--We want a National Union to open the ma-
gistracy in corporate cities and towns to the resident inha-
bitants at large, and in particular to destroy that ludicrous
anomaly by which the Corporation of Dublin has the
power of electing police justices, to be paid, not by them,
but by the nation at large.
There are many, very many, other reasons why Ire-
land wants a National Political Union, many of which
must readily suggest themselves to every thinking person,
hut which I have not leisure to detail.
It happens unfortunately that the National Union in
Ireland cannot act by a delegated body as the Unions act
in England. Those delegates there are called a Council,
We cannot have a delegated Council, because a tatute
brought in by the ever-odious Earl of Clare renders that
We must therefore act as a self-constituted body.
Mr. Dwyer, at the Parliamentary Agency-office, 15,
St. Andrew-street, will take down the names of those
who are wilting to become Members of the National
Union- So soon as a sufficient number of names are sub-
scribed, I will be able to lay before them for adoption, re-
jection, or amendment, the regulation* for our proceedings.
There is already formed in Dublin a very meritorious
body called " The Trades' Political Union." I was in
hopes that they might be converted into the National
Union ; but I found it impossible to do so without ap-
proaching so close to the verge of the law as to render an
indictment somewhat dangerous. But both may, and I
think ought, to co-exist, and the National Union should
receive into its ranks such a number oldie Trades' Union
will the Nationa'. Union a concentration of all
chases i• 'the community.
We cannot in point of law do more than this. But in
point of fact, we should make the National Union as com-
prehensive as we can, and not confine its operations to
Dublin, or to the trade of Dublin merely, but extend them
to the trades, to the manufactures, to the agricultural
classes, and to all other classes throughout Ireland.
I have hastily drawn this sketch of the National Union
which I propose, I have not time at present to enter into
further details. lam ready to sacritice my own views, if
I am shown any other system more likely to do good to Ire-
land. I hope a similar feeling will actuate others, and
that Irishmen will at length consent to sacrifice all
lealousies and bad passions on the altar of their country.
I am, fellow-countrymen, your devoted servant,
DANIEL O'CONNELL.

PRICE 7D.

we have private information contradicting all these reports.
We must, therefore, wait still longer."
ANTWERP, Nov. Lt.—Last night the wind he'ng very
violent, caused great disasters. The Blokeldyk was broken
so that the Polder of Calloo. the dike of which had been
repaired and which was nearly dry, is again inundated.
The dike which protects the Polders of Beveren, &c. is
also damaged, and unless it is repaired it cannot resist.
BERLIN, Nov. 7.—The Warsaw Papers contain the
order of the day of the Field-Marshal Commanding, to the
troops under his command, an order of the day of his
Majesty the Emperor, in which he expresses his entire sa-
tisfaction with the conduct of the soldiers in the campaign
in Poland, where they have not more dintinguishel them.
selves by their bravery and endurance of hardships, than
by their moderation in victory, mild treatment of the con-
quered, and readiness to be reconciled with the enemy
when they return to their duty, and pay inviolable respect
for the life and property of the defenceless inhabitants.
The St Petersburgh Journals of the 29th announce the
arrival of the Emperor at the Kremlin on the 23d, at
eleven at night. The reception of his Alsjesty by the in-
habitants was most enthusiastic.

B MIL' N.—CHOLER A.
New cases. Recoveries. Deaths.
Nov. 6
7
22............14
9
Remain, 73.
The total numbers since the commencement are—Cases
2,077 ; deaths 1.3 JO ; recoveries 663.
MsreNcc, Nov. 4.—The labours of the Central Com-
mittee for the navigation of the Rhine were fully closed in
the sitting of yesterday, when M. Von Arier, member of
the Prussia❑ Government at Cologne, was unanimously
chosen by all the Sates on the b,lnks of that river chief
inspector of the navigation of the Rhine.
VIENNA, Nov. 2.—The Emperor of Russia having pro-
hibited the Polish officers who have ft d to Gallicia from
returning to Russia, most of them are preparing to go to
France or Italy, as our Government cannot he bound to
provide for their subsistence any longer. All the Poles of
rank in Bohemia are gone to Carlsbad and Eger, to com-
ply with the quarantine regulations ordered by Bavaria
Most of those arrived have brought with them funds for
their support.

VIENNA, Nov. 5. Nov. 6.
Three per Cents 8744 B7M
Four per Cents.
Bank Shares. 1126 1126
Nov. s.—On the 3.1 and 4th there were four new
cases of cholera in the city, five recoveries, and no de-,the,
the number remaining is twenty-three. In our suburbs
the number of patients has increas,d from 231 to 257 i
there having been in the two days eighty-six new cases, six-
teen recoveries, and forty•three deaths.

THE MURDERED ITALIAN BOY.

The four men, Bishop, May, Wi!limns, and Shields'
who stand charged with the murder of the Italian bey,
who-e name has not as yet been satisfactorily ascertained,
were yesterday brought to the public office, Bow-street,
and placed at the bar before Mr. MINSHULL, the pre-
siding Magistrate, who was assi-aepl by DT. ROBINSON arid
Mr. MALLARD, County Magistrates, and Mr. SWABEY,
late of Union-hall The office was crowded to excess. The
bench also was crowded by gentlemen, many of whom
were surgeons.
Henry Locker, on Friday, the 4th of November instant,
was waiter at " The Fortune of War" public-house, in
Giltspur-street. He knew the prisoners, who used to fre-
quent that house. Bishop, Ma), :nel Williams, called
in between eleven and twelve o'clock on Friday morning,
and had eornethine to drink. They remained in the tap-
room about an hour and a half, and then went away. They
returned at three o'clock, and remained until dusk, when
they went away again, and came back at eight o'clock, or
past. They had with them a strange man, who appeared
to be a hackney-coachman. They said they had hail a '
tide, and went into the tap-room, and had something to
drink. Shortly after the prisoner May came out of the
tap-room, and went to the bar. He had a handkerchief
in his hand, which seemed to contain something. He
poured some hot water on the handkerchief, and began to
wipe its contents, which proved to be human teeth.
Witness remarked that they appeared to be the teeth of a
young person, and that they were worth something. May
answered that they were as good to him as 21 The prisoners
and the other man soon after went away. On the follow-
ing morning (Saturday), Bishop, Williams and Shields
called again, and had some beer to drink. Bishop asked
what they should do for a hamper, and Williams said there
was one inside the railings of the hospital (Bartholomew's).
The prisoner Shields went and fetched it, and all three
went away.
James Seagrove, the cabriolet driver, stated that on the
Friday evening, about six o'clock, being at tea in a water-
ing-house in the Old Bailey, he was called out to the pri-
soners Bishop and May. The latter asked him if he wanted
a job, and added, " I want you to carry a stiffun ; adding,
"We will stand a guinea for it." Witness declined the
" job," and left the prisoners apparently making a bargain
with a hackney-coachman.
George Gissing, a boy, aged about fifteen, was the son
of a publican who lived in Birdcage walk, Bethnal-green.
' On Friday evening, between six and seven o'clock, he was
standing at his father's door, when be saw a yellow-bodied
chariot stop at the corner of Nova Scotia-gardens. The
prisoners Bishop, May, and Williams jumped out of it,
and the two former went up Nora Scoti i-gardens ; they
were dressed in smock-frocks, and May Lad a pipe in his
mouth; Williams, who had on a lieht fustian jacket, re-
tnained leaning against the force wheel of the chariot, in
conveisation with the coachman ; Bishop and May re-
turned in a short time, carrying a sack containing some-
thing heavy; May had the sack on his back, and Bishop
was holding it up behind ; the sack was placed in the
chariot, and after the prisoners had taken their places, it
drove off, through Crab-tree-row, in the direction of Shore-
ditch church.
Thomas Trader, another boy, about the same age as the
last witness, gave similar evidence.
Ann Cannell corroborated the statement of the last
witness, and added that she saw two men jump out of the
coach. They both wore dark smock-frocks, and one of
them had a pipe in his mouth.—(The witness was here
directed to look well at the prisoners May and Bishop, and
after doing so she declared that she could not identi'y
them as the two men she had seen.) The last witness
stood by, and she (witness) said to him, '‘ This looks
strange; see where they are going so quick." The lad
replied, " I am sure I won't go after them, for it I did
they would not mind giving me a topper." The coach-
man never got off his box until the men returned, and
this circumstance excited her suspicion the more.
John Chapman was porter at Guy's Hospital. At seven
o'clock in the evening of Friday, the 4th instant, the two
prisoners, Bishop and May, drove to the hospital in a
hackney-coach or chariot. They came to his (witness's)
lodge, and he let them in. Toey had a sack with them,
which the shorter man (Bishop) carried. Witness did
not know what the sack contained. They went towards
the dissecting-room.
By Dr. ROBINSON-The sack appeared to contain some-
thing heavy. It is usual for coaches to draw up at the gate
of the hospital and no questions are asked. I knew the
persons of the men before; but did not know their namss.
Biabap—Now, John, are you certain that it was I who
carried the sack? Witness—Yes, I am.
May—Why, it was I carried the sack, and not Bishop.
It is a matter of no moment, but it only shows bow care-
ful men ought to be when on their oaths.
James Davis, the porter to the dissecting room at Guy's
Hospital, repeated the evidence which he gave before the
Coroner, as to the body having been offered for sale to him
by Bishop and May on the night of Friday ; and after he
had declined to purchase it, Bishop requested him to take.
charge of it all night, which he did. Witness observed a
human foot protruding from the sack, and from the size of
the foot he concluded that the subject was either a youth
or a female. The body was removed from the hospital on
the following morning, James Weeks, the assistant porter,
having delivered it to May and Bishop. Witness saw
them both at the hospital in the morning, in company
with the prisoner Shields and another man.
John Weeks, the person referred to, proved that he deli-
vered the body to May and Bishop. When they were at
the hospital on the previous night, May said, " The fact
is, the subject belongs to Bishop, and not to me." Wit-
ness was positive that when May and Bishop came fur the
body in the morning, the prisoners Shields and Williams
accompanied them.
May—When we were going to leave the " thing," did
not Bishop say it belonged to him ? Witness—No, not
to my knowledge.
Mr. MwsktuLt,-.-}lad any thing been said that you re-

Joan Appleton, porter to Mr. Grainger's theatre of
anatooy, Webb-street, Borough, proved, that on Fr ay
night' after May and Bishop had left Guy's) they c .me
and asked if he wanted a subject. Witness answered in
the negative, and they went away.
William Hill, porter at the dissecting-room, King's
College, Strand, repeated the evidence which he had pre-
viously given, and added that after he had communicated
"*th Mr. Partridge, and had offered Bishop nine guineas for
the body, May, who appeared to he tipsy, said they ought
to have ten guineas. May then slipped aside, and Bishop,
who appeared to be more anxious to sell the body than
May, said " I will bring it in for nine guineas ; he," mean-
ing May, " is tiiiisy." The witness then proceeded to state,
that on the same afternoon the four prisoners brought the
body of the deceased in a hamper to the college, and after
describing the appearances it presented, and stating the
suspicions which were excited in consequence, added, that
Bishop wanted Mr. Partridge to give him whatever money
he had in his purse, and said they would call again for
the remainder. While they were waiting to be paid.
Bishop wished witness to give him but eight guineas in
the presence of Williams, saying that he wanted the other
guinea for himself, and he promised witness half-a-crown
for himself if he would do so.
Bishop—Yes, you get many a guinea in that way.
Mr. MisstruLL—ls it customary for p"eons in your
situation to receive such presents? Witness—Yes, Slr,
sometimes.

Mr. MlNsuueL—Did you perceive any marks of dirt
upon the body, as if it had bien scraped with a dirty -
sleeve, or smeared over with a hand? Witness—l did
perceive such marks.
Mr. SWABEY—Did they appear to have been mail• by
de-ion or accident?
The witness could not say, hut in answer to a question
by Mr. Corder, he gave it as his clear opinion that the
body had neither been laid out nor buried.
Bishop—his impossible for you to tell that. You know
nothing about raising bodies. Is there not a difference in
soil ? B-sides, clay could not have got into the c,,ffin.
The witness went on to stat-, that when the body was
taken from the sack at the Collette, the left arm was
doubled up. The band also was clinched.
May—When the body was laid on the floor, was the arm
doubled up? Witness —Yes.,and I unchocred the fingers
myself, and observed that the limbs were very stiff.
Bishop (smiling)—The fact is, you are not in the
habit of seeing fresh subjects, and you don't know any-
thing about it.—(llere Bishop and May both laughed.)
Mr. Thomas suggested to the prisoners that they had
better he quiet, as they were doing themselves no good.
Bishop—l can do myself no harm, at all event,:.
Mr. Beaman, the surgeon, repeated his former opinion,
founded on the post mortem examination of the body,
that death had been produced by extravasation of blood in
the spinal canal, an effect which must have been produced
t)y violence on the back of the neck.
Mr. Partridge, demonstrator of anmtomy at the King's
College, agreed with Mr. Beaman in every particular with
regard to the causes which had produced death.
Mr. MiNsiti:LL—ls it your opinion, then, that the troy
came to his death by violence—in short, that he was mur-
dered ? Mr. Partridge—l certainly In believe that the
death of the deceased was effected by violence.
Mr. MiNsuuLe—ls it from the state of the neck merely,
or from other apparances, that you have come to that
conclusion? Mr. Partridge—l believe the immediate
cause of death to have been a blow on the back of the neck
by some blunt instrument ; but I judge of the violence
which must have been used from other circumstance—
namely, the freshness of the body, the rigidity of the limbs,
the swollen state of the face, the blood-ant eyes, and their
perfect freshness.
In answer to a question by Mr. Swabey, the witness said
that the superficial dirt on the thighs, belly, and chest of
the deceased, might have been done designedly, or by acci-
dent. Training the body along a dirty floor would leave
such marks.

M-. Thomas Mills, a dentist, residing at Newington-
causeway, stated, that on Saturday morning, the sth of
November inst., the prisoner May came to his shop and
offered him a set of teeth for sale, for which he asked a
guinea. Witness observed that one of the front teeth was
chipped, and said that it did not belong to the set, upon
which May said, " Upon my soul to God, they all be-
longed to one head, and that not long since," and that the
body had never been buried. He ultimately agreed to take
12s. for the teeth.
Mr. Corder asked the witness if he had not observed
something peculiar about the teeth? Witness—Yes;
portions of the gum were adhering to them, and part et
the jaw-bone. There could be no doubt but that the
teeth had been forcibly removed immediately after death.
I said to May that the teeth from appearance belonged to
a female. His reply was, " The fact is, they belonged to
a lad about fourteen or fifteen years of age."
While this witness was giving his evidence, the prisoner
May appeared for the first time to change countenance,
and lose that hnrdness of nerve which distinguished him
throughout the whole proceeding. He stared at the wit-
ness at first rather wildly, and compressed his lips while
listening attentively to the evidence, and as soon as it was
concluded he endeavoured to resume his composure, and
forced a laugh, but almost in a moment afer his counte-
nance underwent another change, and he muttered to him-
self as he looked over to the witness, " the
rascal." He then asked the witness if he was quite sure
of the exact words he had used, when he brought him the
teeth, with regard to the body not having been buried ?
Witness—You said the body had never been buried.
The hamper and sack which contained the body were
here brought fortvar ; the latter had stains of blood upon it.
Higgins, a police constable of the F division, produced
a heavy iron instrument, one end of which was bent and
nearly as sharp as a chisel, and the other thick and round.
He also produced a brad-awl clotted with blood.
A question arose as to the use to which the latter had
been applied, when May at once said " I took the teeth
out with that brad-awl."
The other instrument was then handed to Mr. Par-
tridge, who gave it as his opinion that the sharp end mieht
have indicted the wound on the forehead of the deceased,
and that the thick rounded end was likely to have inflicted
the blow on the back of the neck, which, in his opinion,
was the immediate cause of death.
The witness Higgins found those instruments, together
with a rope with a noose at the end of it (welch he pro-
duced) at the house of Bishop. Ile also found the pair of
breeches now produced, belonging to the prisoner, and he
discovered the marks of blood upon them. He saw some
tresh blood on the floor of the room where he found the
breeches.
May explained that the blood was that of a jackdaw,
which cut its leg, and afterwards hopped upon the breeches.
Kirkman, a police constable, was in plain clothes in the
station-house at Covent garden, on the evening of the 10th
instant, when the prisoners were brought there Mr the
purpose of appearing before the inquest then sitting. He
observed the prisoner Bishop reading a bill pasted lip ,in.
the wall, announcing that a boy had been murdered, and
was then lying for examinetioe at the bone-house. As
soon as he read the bill, Bishop observed to Slay, in a low
tone of voice, "It was the blood sold us." He then got
up and read the bill again, repeating; the words •. [milks of
violence on the body ;" then turning to Slay again, he
a iid, " there was no marks of violence on the body, but
only a few breaks in the skin," and as he said Si he tat
down smiling.
Bishop admitted that he had read the bill over, but de-
nied the expressions imputed to hint.
Margaret King, a decent-looking woman, in an ad-
vanced state of pregnancy, on Thuisday fortnight, abeut
one o'clock, was standing with her children in the Bird-
cage-walk, near Nova Scotia-gardens, when she saw an
Italian bey (wheel she had frequently seen before in the
neighbourhood of Bethnal-green) standing at the corner
of Nova Scotia-gardens, with a little box slung before
him. He stood about thirty yards from where she was
standing. She nee er saw that boy since. He had his
neck to her, but still she was sure lie was the same boy
whom she had seen so frequently before. He bad either a
box or a cage with him.
Mr. Altesunee— Are you sure it was on a Thursday
you saw him where you have just de>cribed.
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about the awful murder that had been committed on the
ready of a noor Italian boy, and I immediately said,
" Dear me, Isaw a boy, suck as is described, standing at
the end of Novia Scotia-gardens, a short tine ago."
Mrs. Paragalli was again called forward to prove that
she knew the deceased, and had frequently seen him about
the streets carrying a cage with white mice in it. On
the Ist instant she saw him in Oxford-street, and had
since seen his body at the station-house.
Bishop—Are you quite certain that the boy you saw in
Oxford-street was the same boy whose body lay at the
station? Witness—l have no doubt of it.
Mr. Altesuuee then, addressing the prisoners, told them
that they would be remanded to that day week, when they
would again be brougthotuif,oprreiyzaerctihfeonrifutthtahterotetsirearmeivniadt,„ionnce.
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