The Sun.
London, England, 1822-07-30 00:00:00

BARILLA DUTIES.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the
Order of the Day for a Committee on the Barilla Duties Bill.
On th 4 motion that the Speaker do leave the Chair,
Colonel BALFOUR moved that the House resolve itself
into a Committee this day three months, on account, as we
understood, of the injury which the Kelp manufacturers would
susfain frtini Bari/la coming into competition with them at a
low duty._ -

Mr. ELLICE said, the object of the Bill was to.regeal apart
of the enormous duties on Barilla, and to leave that duty at the
same rate that it stood before the war, the article itself having
fallen to the price at which it Stood before the War. It was quite
impOssibie, without wining the export trade,. to alio!, the high
dutie,s on articles which entered largely into our manufactures
to continue. He did not, however, wish to prevent-the obser-
•vatiops of the Hon. Gentleman in favotir of the poor people
gaged,in the Kelp trade from having their weight.
Tht‘CIIANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER said, when
tho proposition for the reduction of the Salt ' Tax had been
agreed: to, it was obviously necessary to reduce the Barilla
duties, astlic alkali manufactured from salt Weald otherwise
'completely exclude it from the market.

Mr. W. SMITH. said, he Should be disposed to give the
manufacturers of Kelp a preference in consideratiormo the
itiiporteri-of barilla, because V-ith the latter it was a question
of more-or less money;: kit with respect to the hip marm-:
facturers, it.was a question of exiStence.• But he was persuaded
that even if the duties on barilla continued, the kelp manufac-
ttirerS Would not stand their ground against the manufacturers
of alkali'from salt. .

Mr. R. M.anTix and Mr. R. MACDONALiI spoke in favour
of the kelp manufacturers.
Mr. 'l'. WILSON supported the motion for a Committee.
The Ainendthent Was negatiVed vitthout a division, and the
House went into a Committee.

The CHANCELLOR, oc the. EXCHEQUER proposed to.
fill up the blank left for the time when the Bill should come
into operation with the 10th October. '
Mr. MIME proposed, as a relief to the poor manufacturers
pf kelp, that the Bill should not come into operation before De-
cember. .

Mr. Alderman WOOD and Mr. C. CALVERT supported
the original koposition of the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Mr. CHARLES GRANT spoke in behalf of the kelp ma-
nufactUrers, lobo, he obierved; were a very meritorious and or-
derly.body of men, whoSe ordinary lot was extreme poverty,
but who now were sufferiog pritAtions almost amounting to
famine. He hoped; therefore, his Right Hon. Friend would
agree to the suggestion, to substitute December for October.

-Mr. BRIGAT said he felt deeply for the poor peopleatrect
ed by the Tax ; but it was not possible on account of the suf-
Tering to a small number of individuals to deny the public the
advantage of the remission of taxes: He should hope, how-
ever, to see a portion of the remaining duty on salt applied to
the relief of these persons.
Mr.- W. SMITH said the real competition would be, not be-
tween the manufacturers of kelp and the importers of barilla,
but between the forther and the manufacturers of salt • from
.alkali.-11e, however, saw no reaion why the duty should be
'reduCed before January, the time Of the cessation of the High
Salt- Duty.
After a few words from Mt. T. Wilson -and Mr. R. Mac-
donald, the Chancellor of the Exchequer agreed to the sugges.:
tion of,Mr. Hume.

The'Report was ordered to be teeeiifed to-morrow.
SMUGGLING PREVENTION BILL,

On the motion for the thin', reading of the Smuggling Pre-
N'ention Bill,

Mr. RERNAL complained of the hardships to which sea-
faring men were exposed under the provisions of the existing
laws for the prevention of smuggling. They *ere liable to be
sent abroad ter five years, on the oath of a single custom-house
officer, who received a reward of 201. on the commitment of the
party. He earnestly pied upon the attention of Hon. Gen-
tlemen opposite, the expediency of making a digest of the ex-
isting excise law's. more effectual in their tendency, and more
constitutional in their principle.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL admitted that some of the
provisions of the existing laws appeared to-press hard upon sea-
faring men ; that, for instance, which rendered them liable to
be impressed and sent on board ship for 5 years on commitment,
without conviction. The Judges had, however, so construed
the Act in favour of the liberty of the subject, as to require
that the -commitment should set out all the facts necessary to
conviction, and this had been found a matter of such extreme
difficulty, that a great number of persons had been discharged
on being brought up by Habeas Corpus before the Judges.
Mr. LUSH I NGTON suggested the propriety of introducing
a clause giving a discretionary power to the Lords of the Trea-
sury to remit the penalties, whether the parties were seafaring
men or not.

Dr. LUSHINGTON said it *as contrary to every principle
of justice that a man should be liable to be committed, and sent
abroad, without conviction, for five years, merely becaufe he
was found on board a vessel liable to forfeiture.

Mr. BRIGHT objected tc. the form of the conviction, as
set out in the Bill.

The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said the form was precisely
the same as that adopted in every other Act of Parliament,
giving a power of sununary conviction.
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
A Message from the Lords announced their Lordships' as-
sent To several Bills [for which See the Lords.]
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned. .