The Sun.
London, England, 1831-09-19 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE PARISIAN JOURNALS.

'‘ The papers of this morning are wholly occupied
with indignant lamentations over the fate of War-
saw the opposition journals mingle with these
lamentations expressions of triumph at the defeat of
Ministers on the proposition of M. Bois,y d'Anglas,
and antieipate with confidence the speedy fall of the
Administration. .The expression of M. Sebastiani,
' L'ordre regne,. darts Varaovie,' is the object of
strong and general animadversion in the opposition
papers= as exhibiting a cold and heartless indifference'
to the fate of the Poles : hopes, however, are ex-
pressed that it is not yet too late, a►:d that France
will still march to, the assistance of the wreck of
the gallant army. La Tribune (which as well as
the ,T,ournal de Commerce, appears ~ncitcled with a
broad black band) termittu'aes its article in these
words Patriots of •France !itis no longer tears,
but force and union, which the revelution requires
frofo you. Poland has been betrayed by our Minis•
ters : let it he pruclaimod before the face of Europe,
that in SO (Wing they have also betrayed France.'
The two ministerial journals (Le Temps taking its
rank among the opposition) confine themselves to
general expressions of r egrk.at the full of Warsaw,
but expatiate on the baseness of those whq would en-
deavour so take advantage of it fer the purpose of
exciting commotion."

CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES.-SErr. 18.

The President took the chair at one o'clock.

group of members, amongst whom we remarked
Messrs. Viennet, Decnargay, and Prunellex pressed
round the ministerial bench, on which was seated
the Keeper of the. Seals, and were evidently engaged
in very interesting conversation. After some time,
The Minister of Commerce rose to explain a bill
for defining the attributions of the Departmental and
Arrondissement Councils. The law of 1791, he said,
had carefully fixed theso attributions, and separated
the executive from the local power : but the gun-
ranteas it established, by despoiling the Crown
of part of its essential prerogatives, had created
irremediable causes 01 perturbation. The law of
An. 11. had produced still greater inconveniences.
At length the law of An. VIII. came and sepa-
rated the contending interests.. Thus the Administra,
Lion was placed in the hands of the Prefect, and
Consultation in the Council-General, It was not
now intended to change this system, and launch into
t
trials which experience had proved to be dangerous.
It was much better to attempt to render perfect
the
interestsßill the
did not exist so naturally in
that which already existed, Passing to the con-
struction Minister observed, that
the
col ,ec ofiv e
the departments as in the communes. The depart-

ment had only a factitious orkinizaii4n,fiorn whet we
it resulted that it had only such rights as were irrh,-
irarily cleated, while the eights of the commui.
c
were inherent in its nature. These thin:Tem:es, how-
ever, disanpeared.in practice.
The Minister entered into details as to the a tri.
butions of the Councils-General of the Depart-
ments, which he said were of such impoitaisce that
they often approached those of the Lezif.iature it„jr.
At this part of the Minister's speech, the men--
hers, who had become very numerous, and bed
f,rmed themselves into several groups, entered into
conversation with so much warmth, that the Voice
of the Minister became completely drowned. In, one
Zroup, which was particularly animated, weie Ge-
neral Limarque and M. ale Tracy. Messrs. o.lillon
13arrot anti Laurence appeared *to be questioning
•tl a7tending with earnestness to the answer? sf
General Lafayette, who came in at the time.
The Minister having sat down, the Bill was read,
old ordered to be printed.
The President announced that the indisposition of
,he reporter, appointed by the Committee to whom
he Bill for revising art. 23 of the charter (the
peerage) bad been referred, prevented him rem
stringing up the report till Monday, when it would
certainly be presented.
The Chamber then resumed the discussion of M.
Boissy d'An4lat's motion. ..
The first article of the Bill, vith several amend-
ments, having been read,
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tyranny of our President." After some further a/-
tereation,

M. Mauguin sail—l entreat the Chamber will ex-
cuse me, if, from a misunderstanding, I have intet-
rup• ed the proceedin,ga of the Chamber. The Afoni-
leur of the day before yesterday.—(Murmiir.)
Gentlemen, if you continue to interrupt me,
shall not he able to explain myself. The 111,nri-
tear of the day before yesterday, contained
news which truck all men with astonish-
ment,—to-day it publishes intelligence which
has filled France with grief. This intelligence has
entirely changed the nature of our diplomatic re-
lations, 1111(1 I request the Chamber to name a'rLy
when I may ask explanations from the Ministers.
It is my intention to address to them inquiries' re-
lating to the affairs of Belgium. The right I claim
was established lay various precedents in the course
f last year. These precedents are sound, and in
conformity with our Parlnmentary rules. I tHere-
fore hope the Chamber will decide whether I shall
put my qee,tions to-morrow or Monday.—(Hear.)
The Minister for. Foreign Affairs said, the :Gn-
verritnent is ready to answer them to-day.
M. Msuguin, who was called upon on all sides to
go on, replied, that his habit of speaking extem-
pore would make it easy for him to proceed imme-
diately but for the severe hoarseness he laboured
under, and which must be evident to the Chaniber.
He, therefore, would adjourn his inquiries till Mon-
day ; but if the Minister for Foreign Affairs would
afford the Chamber 'tiny information as to the events
at Warsaw, he was sure the Members would be
grateful.--(Continued ag;tation.)
M, Laurence said, the situation of affairs abroad
was no doubt very serious, but the evil, if there was
any, and he did not mean to prejudge any thing,
was not entirely from without the country._ The
conduct of the Government towards it, agents, the
animosity of party, and the precautions to be taken
against the possibility of an invasion from -abrOrtil,
were all internal questions. Since an Han. Mem-
ber had announced his intention of putting questions
to the Minister for Foreign Affaiis with regard to
the conduct of the Government as to the foreign
relations of the countiy, he (MAlitrence) felt it
his duty to give notice that he ahould,at the same
time, call upon Ministers for explanations as to in-
ternal affairs, on the state of parties, and the order
established and maintained in the Administration.

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The President of the Council replied—" We are
perfectly ready to answer all questions that may be
dut to us.-(Several voices from the Centres cried
out, ' Speak, speak." Put your questions now.')
Two Members have required the Chamber to fix a
day for their putting questions to the Government
and demanding explanations. They have no doubt
some important facts to denounce to the Chamber.
I declare, therefore, that the Government is ready
to give at this moment full answers to every thing
that may be required by them, for it feels that it
ought not to he permitted to any person to dissemi-
nate alarm through the country when the Govern-
ment is willing to destroy it, or at least to explain.
---(Cheers.)
M. Laurence declared that it had never been, and
never would be his intention to spread alarms.—(ln-
terruption, and a Member exelaiMed, " Why, what
are you now doing ?") The Hon. Member conti-
nued—l beg leave to assure those who interrupt me
that they will not prevent me from saying all I-have
to say. .1 repeat that it is not my intention now,
and never shall be, to disturb the country by rams;
but who' can deny that alarm does exist, and that it
is necessary to ascertain the cause ? If previous
accounts had not led to premature hopes relating to
Poland—if the news received last night, arid pub-
lished this morning, had not suddenly changed the
aspect of affairs and the feelings of men's minds,
probably I should not have conceived it necessary
to demand the explanations I have fixed to require
on Monday; but my opinion is that the aspect of
affairs is changed,—that the bulwark of France is
thrown down, and her advanced guard destroyed.
Assembled together in this place to watch over the
interests of our country, we are bound to commu-
nicate to each other every fact connected with them
which comes to our knowledge. We have received
statements of facts from 86 of the department's of
France. Before I present these to the Chamber, it
is necessary for me to arrange them in order. I
shall be ready by tomorrow, if it be desired, but I
am totally unprepared to bring them forward to-day.
The Keeper of the Seals stated that the docu-
ments which regulated the conduct of the Govern-
ment were received through different channel.. The
judicial police was one of these, and it would be
his duty as the head of this department to gibe a
r portion of the explanations which would be'rle-
mantled. But when these doeurnents came into
other hands than those of die-Government, he con-
ceived that it was both 'natant-stud expedient to
communicate them beforehand to Ministers.—(llear,
hear, from the gauche.)

M. de Podenas—But the Minister for Foreign
Affairs has declared that he is ready to give us in-
formation as to the situation of Poland.
Tho Minister for Foreign Affairs then rose and
said, " I have but very little to comminunicate to
the Chamber ; the news received by the Govern-
ment has been already published. A capitulation has
placed the city of Warsaw in the hands of the Rus-
sians—the Polish army has retired into the environs
of the fortress of Modlin--24,000 Poles alone re-
mained in Warsaw-36,000 have withdrawn into
Podlachia. Order prevails in Wirsaw."
These words were listened to with the deepest-s!-
lence, and produced a painful sensation.
General Lafayette said—l wll not waste the time
of the Chamber, but it will be recollected that it
has sent petitions to the Council of Ministers, soli-
citing the intervention of France in favour of Po-
land, and that after an appeal from me conjuring
them to stop the hostile proceedings of Prussia. I
therefore warn the Ministers, that on Monday they
will have to give an account of what they have done
in pursuance of this recommendation. Poland will
not perish, but its fate depends on the French Go-
eernment, Which ought to adopt more firm and ener-
.getie measures, and parlienlArly with regard to
Prussia. Prussia, Gentle Men, has given us many
grounds for complaint I will, for inmanee, ask the
Minister for Foreign Alf,Orwlattlterit:bratue tl:4t

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