The Sun.
London, England, 1814-09-05 00:00:00

TO THE EDITOR.

S►n—Several per.tons having expressed a wish
that I should visit Joanna Southcott, that they
might he better satisfied what foundation there
was, for a report that she was pregnant, I con-
sented to accompany one of friends, a surgeon
and acconcheur of experience, for that purpose,
on the 18th of August. lle informed me, on thy
way thither, that the most satisfactory examina-
tion would not be permitted, but that it was not
at all necessary, as no professional man could
have any doubt of her situation, upon seeing the
state of her breasts, and feeling the outside of
her abdomen.

Mier appearance gave no reason'to doubt the
truth of her statement, that she was in her Gsth
year, and that certain natural effects had ceased
since she was 48 ; circumstances under which her,
pregnancy was naturally incredible, and ivere. it
real, might well enough have induced a belief that
it was supernatural.
I endeavoured, however, not to prejudge the
case, but to form my opinion of her situation from
the symptoms alone, as I should have done had
she been only 45,)ears of age, and therefore with-
in the period of probable pregnancy.
After. a minute statement' of particulars of his
examination of the woman, the writer cOnclude4
thus :

Considering all the abbve appearances, I did
not hesitate to declare it to be my opinion, that
Joanna Southrott was not pregnant„ but was tbld
that I was the first medical mall that had see►i her,
who was nor perfectly satisfied of the contrary.
I believe that her uterine organs a►e diseased,
and thsit the breasts,, as is sympathising
with those parts, have an increased quantity of
blood determined to their.: Had I thought the
external appearances such ought to lead to a
belief in Ite-e pregnancy', 1 sh,,uld have urged the
propriety of her submitting to a more satisfaCtory
examination►; but feeling, as I did, a perfect con-
viction that she _was not with child, it seemed
to me unnecessary to insist upon any further
inquiry. •
Having o'Jscrved in tl►e Newspapers, that asser-,
thms- are repeatedly made, that eminent •accou-
chairs have declared this woman to_ be pregnant.,
I am desirous not to be reckoned of that number.
Yet, before I conclude, I feel it right to.say, that
I am convinced that this poor-woman is fro
postor, but that she labours under a strong mental
delusion.
Sept. 3, 1814. , JOHN. SIMS.

L ,TTEIt FROM JOB iVYd SOLITHCOTT
TO DR. REECE.
(Toni the Sunday Monitor of yesterday.) •
TO DR. RICHARD REECE.
• Sept: fiber 1, 1814.

Sta--43eing informed by' Mr. Carder, ou Wednesday,
gust 31, Ibitt you had been attacked for putting your judg-
ment on my case in the Panic, in answer to the inquiries that
had been made in a Moming Paper, 'which, if no one had
answered, there would have been room for the world to say,
the Medical Men refused to give the judgment they had
drawn, to satisfy the minds of the Public. Now, as you have
putilistied.your's, I shall lay before you the particulars, what
was the judgment of all that came into my presence, -that
yon may sec you do not stand alone in judgment.
The first man thatcame into the room where I was, from the
1 t th of October, 1813, to 'he Ist day of Aug. 1814, was Dr.
Adams, who Was called in, with Messrs. Wetherell and' Phil-
lips; on account of my illness at that time, and for their
oilinioa of My case; when I had laid before them the man-
ner of my illness and the statement of all my complaints
front the 17th of March to that day, with my increasing si•ze,
and feeling life within, Dr. Adams asked me What was the
object of their meeting ? I said, nut to-pass their judgment
according to niyage from the statement I had, given, or from
being kept from any man's coming 'into 'my presence, from
last Octliber to that present time, Ist of August, or from
the prophecies,.all these things they were wholly to divest
themselves of, all the judgment that was required of then,,
was to give their opinion what they should judge of a young
married woman in my situation, from every thing I bad laid
before them. Dr. Adams answered immediately, I should
not hesitate a moment, or have any doubt of your being.
in a pregnant state, was it in a young woman, but. as this
was a ease of a particular nature, he thought an examina-
tion was necessary, and as I had been acquainted with Mr.
Wetherell, and himself and Mr. Phillips were strangers, he
desired Mr:'‘Vetherell would examine me, and they would
quit the rooni; Mr. W. e7:amined me in the'same manner you
did, and laid it before Dr. Adams and Mr. Phillips, and Di'.
Adams prescribed for tne accordingly •, (as the Bishopi had
refused-to send in their physicians), I had liberty fur the
friends to send in theirs, from which Mr. Walker applied to
Dr. Watchman, and Mr. Owen 'applied to a Mr. Hoar. I
then sent to Dr. Adams, to beg the favour of his meeting
them; he called upon me, and said he would attend ; I asked
hint if he had ever such a case brought before him of anvontan
at my age; he said no, never; neither had he ever, heard of
suck a-case, therefore they could only pass their judgment
from the symptoms and appearance, was it in a young woman
hot this was a cause could not be reasoned upon; on the
Wednesday following, he oust the Gentlemen as appointed,-
whslii Dr. Walchman came lie proposed au internal exami-
nation, and said the Medical ?den should not come up al-
together, but one at a time, and give their opinions sepa-
rately. - Dr. Adams then came up, and after external exami-
nation, said I had every symptom. of a woman in a preg-
nant state, and wrote down his judgment-thereon: He
then told me 'of Dr. Watchman's proposal of examination,
that it would be -closer than he had done, as lie _himself exa-
mined in, n),thn!sarne manner you did. 1 asked Dr. Adams,
what Dr. Walctunan meant by a closer examination ;„ he then
explained what the other meant; this tilled me. with such
horror, that I would not subunit to that, for if they could not
judge from my situation, and the. examination he had matie,
then I said-I would- wait till the child made its appearance,
strong enough to be seen and felt without any examination at
all. Dr. Adams said, he himself should nut have made such
a request, but Dr. Watchman, refused seeing me, unless
I would snlintitto such an examination : this I said, I newel'
would submit to, but leave. it to time, that would prove
whether • there was a child or nut. Dr. Adams inform-
ed -Dr. Watchman of my determination, and they left
the house, as 1 neither saw Dr. Watchman- or Dr,-
Hord'. This being talked of, that INlediCal Men were
admitted, a Mr. Meallin, surgeon, applied us have per
; being a stranger, he was requested to leave his address,
.and Mr. Phillips waited upon him. - •He gave a reference to
airs. Heavyside and Pearson ; after that he , came , with Mr.
Phillips, and after hearing my- statement, and, examining
me externally, he said he had no doubt of toy "4eing in a
pregnant state, though he said it was a wonderful case. I told
hint the proposals Dr. Watchman had made of examination,
at which he seemed surprised, and said he conceived he
could be no judge from such an examination, of a woman
at My age. The Monday following, Mr. Forster came,
and after laying the whole of my case before him, and he
examined me, he gave it as his opinion, if it was a young
woman, there was no doubt of my being; in a pregnant
state. When I Mentioned to him the proposals Dr. W.
had made of art internal examination, he said like Mr.
Meallin, he could be no judge from,that, at my time of life,
and the advanced time of the pregnancy; as those examina-,
tions took plaCe. at 'an early poiot+, at Ladies own desire,
when they were not clear of being in the family way, and
wished to know; or at a tilde when they Went beyond the
time to bring on the pain, or to ascertain the cause, if nut
pregnant; be gave liberty for any one to call upon him, and
he--would' give his opinion. The next day Airs. Forster
came, ands Mrs. Lock, a female midwife, and two others
that ave- had families;
after laying my case before them,
and lie`rrstrictly examined by the women, they all passed
their -judgment there was not a doubt of my tieing in
a pregnant state; after the examination, as we sat con-
Yersiug together, I felt the life working very strung within
me ; Mr 4. Forster was sitting close by my side, and ripe
perceived it, she immediately laid her baud .lover me, and

. .
said she felt the c!, child as: •••rot-.7
felt (vie of titer or:,; lif‘a Mrs. t,ock felt it lite-.
wise, the ,other taco saw its movements: . feloaing
day, you, Sir, vaunt, yaitiar:f. \ our jade:meat I. need not
mention, but•the neat nunnitig came with Mr. We-
therell ; he heard all tine symptoms, and CNA liClTltql ate, bat
gave it as his opnaaa,. I was nal ith child,' thus-di, onld
nut say it was imptesailde,' for all thiogs, wl're naasikt!c
w. ttli
Gorl, yet be himself should not pass, his opinitip, I isms in
the family way, hut said lie wouid not take upon lino to say
I was not,nwither amild he give any opiaion of the cause,
that had prodaced the infects I laal felt, or the increase
of my size; When askiat aim what he sconld • proscribe for
me to preveat my sickness ;oat pain, or to laing me to
an Appetite, • he mentioaed the same its Dr. Ada tits bad,pre-
scribed for the, but would not presetii.ie any thing fur-
ther ; 'he said he should suppose such vu's event 'as this, if
it took place, would not be bid in a corner. I told him no,
there must he Physicians and Medical Men present; he said.
'he shoald beg ad' to be one, that lie.should be happy to• by a
witness against his own judinneut. . When 11,1. %vent down
stairs, Mr. Wetherell asked him what grounds, he had to
supposb that I was not in the family way; he assigned but
one reason, but said if I wasaieceived, I was nor a deceiver,'
as I gave liberty for every examination that was aecessary.—
After this" sonic Ladies came to see me, and noon' mention-
ing Dr. Snus's reason for his opinion, one of the Ladies said,,
I have had eleven children, and the olojectioti he Mentioned
happened to me with ,every one of them, therefoic, I find
there is no rule without an exception. The Lady, in exa-
mining me, said, there was no doubt of- my being it) a preg-
nant state. The saute judgment had been passed Ity ail those
whom I have seen that have been mothers of children, as I
have had the advice and opinion of mann:
After Dr. Sims had'passed his judginetc, I sent for a Medi-
cal Man, who',l how was strong in unaelief, that itesa. I not
. be possible, and therafore 1 said 1 sent for hint, to know if he
could preseriheatoy thiagthat would do me good if I was not
in the family way. Ile heard my statement from th, •begin-
ning, he examined me, and said,.if I was a young married
woman, he should say I was not in the family way. 1 asked
bins what disorder he would judge I had to cause the pains,
sickness, and the increase of my batty; he said he looked
upon it I had been long in a debilitated state, and the severe
pain I had felt iii my back was from a hurt in the kidnies,
which was the cause of -all my- other complaints; . that
my' sickness proceeded, from a lodgment of bile in my
stomach, ‘vhi:li prevented nie from having 'ail- appetite,
but remove, the cause, and the effects would cease.He
said he should not proceed with violent- medicines, neither
'should- he give me milk and water. I told him I
,would
not take any thing that • I thought would he hurtful
to a woman in a fatuity way ; he sent toe two draughts, lint :qr.
Philips advised Ott not to take them, and I was orderea not;
and I sent to him to Send me no more.- Soon after lie was
gone, Mr. Hopgity came; he beard the statement, and exa-.,
miaed my breasts, and' outside my clothes ; said there was
no occasion for any farther. examittatioa. I asked. him
what would be 'his- judgment if I , was a young mar-
ried' woman; he said that was an unfair question, and
lie would not answer it ; be was then desired to answer its
his own way ; he said he did not think I was with child,
btit his judgment might not 'be worth two pence. I- then
enquired what he thought my disorder was ; he said I
had no disease, no disorder, but was in perfect health.
He Wished he might-he deceived of me it) his_judgment,
and if so; should be glad to come forwani against his
own judgmeta. After he was gone .1 thought his judg-
ment could not be worth a pettily, to say I ltinl no dis-
ease, no disorder, and was perfect health, wl, n had
suffered from pain, sickness, loss of-appetite, and had guile
through more than I ever experienced in my life, from the
-17th of March to that time, and at thatatime could keep no-
thing upon my stomach, but fruit, vegetables, and liquids,
!lathing solid could I take,how he could call this good health
I know not. Here 1 have given a clear statement of the dif-
.ferent- judgments of the Medical Gentlemen that I was ex-
amined by, so if any other statement. is brought by men; it is
front those who have not seen nit. Nine 1 have seen, six out
of the nine passed' their opinion, I was in a state of preg-
nancy, the other three salt! I ant not, therefore I ,;as cr-
dered that no more examinations should take place ; whit
had boen already; was sufficient to shew the different judg-
ments of men. Since I saw yoo,l have found a consideralrie
alteration in myself, by feeling the life much stronger, and
' moving its different ways to what it had before, and more
particularly this last week, since I had a juisroey in 'she
coach, when I removed trout my own- house, I have felt it
much lower, and much greater weight. Mr. Carder will
give you the particulars how 1 have been for this week past,
that any appetite returned, and my, pain and sickness left
me, though in other respects the feeling of life within is
greater titan ever, but should it prove not, to be a child in the
end, it roust• bring we to the grave ; but as you have come for-
st-a:al with your judgment to the public, and will be attaeked
for-so doing, I wish t:pna every weapon i,i your hand, that if
there is a possibility of my being deceived, that theslife within
should bring death upon toe, without making its appearance
in the world, I now promise to give you liberty to open toy
hotly, that. you may find out the cause which produce all these
effects, what life was it) me to cause till these pains and sick:-
ntss, like travail. pains, the increase of the size of my batty,
which have increased so much within, a few' sauntha, so that
either in death or, life you will be able to judge of 'a cause,
that never was !nought before medical men, of a woman at
toy age.—l remain, Sir, yours, with the greatest respect.
(Front) •J OH ANNA SOUTI4COTT.
The above taken from Jehaaina Southcott's mouth,' by me,
ANN UNDERWOOD. •
P. S. Mr. Phillips being in attendance upon Mrs. South-
cott, oil the 12th of August. said, on putting his'. hand of that
part of the abdOntets, which a distended womb Would occupy,
he • distinctly felt a strong- motions similar to Suyb.that anent
be expected in a female about seven •inunths t:xpired iu prebr-:
uancy.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.

JOANNA SOUTHECOTT'S PROPHECIES.

UNION LIALL.-,--JOll3 Jennings was brought be
fore Mr. CHAMBERS by Collingbourn, on an in-
formation charging him with a breach of the Act
of Parliament, he having sold certain printed
hooks, the same not having the printer's name
in them. Collingbourn.stated, that on Sunday,
'the 28th of August, whilst ,the Rev. Mr. Tozer
was employed in edifying the followers ofJoanna
Southcott within the walls of her Chapel, the
defendant was as zealously employed in spreading
the fame of the Prophetess abroad, and that at
cheap rate, .his. chaunt setting forth, that any
one, or every one, might he supplied with the
water of life contained in the prophecies of the
holy Johanna, on applidation to filth, for the
.trifling sum of, one penny. Numbers became
purchasers of the inspired writings, and unfor-
tunately for the vender, Collingbourn conceived
an inclination to edify himself by the taste of so
precious, and at the same time so cheap a heve-
racre he therefore became a purchaser, and on,
examining the holy Work, finding there was no
printer's name to the title-page, or elewhere, his
thirst after filthy lucre. becaMe insatiable ; the.
unfortunate vender of prophecies, in which, how-
ever, his own misfortune was not hinted at, was
summoned, and fined 5/. and in default of pay--
went, committed for a week.
QUBEN-SQLPARE.—An information was.hrought
before the Magistrates at this Office, charging
William Williams, proprietor of the Reading stage,
with carrying no less than 22 outside palsengers,
contrary to the Act of the 50th of the King. Mr.
ALLEY, in support of the information; stat,...l the
tendency of the Act, which he considered highly
salutifry, to prevent the fatal accidents which fre-
quently happen by over-loading stage-coaches.
He then called the informer, William Cooper', an
Officer belonging to tlre above Office, who clearly
made out the information. Mr. KNAPP tdok SC-
veval legal objections to the information. These
the Magistrate Over-ruled, and fined the defendant
in the Mitigated penalty of 501.

Yesterday morning a gentleman named I3cwirk
was drat( in his bed. at .the Plough Hot►;i,
Cheltenham ; he retired to rest on the preceding
evening in apparently good health. Corner's Ve-
dict—Died by. the visitLition oA God. . .

Fitif.,;l- TiOND" )N GAzErfbr

ctrf 'r
Foreign-0 fee, Sept •3, 8 It* re ec
pl
Earl Bathurst. one of h;.g Majesty's Princi`)3:, SR'
S,tate, has this:day notified, by jennunand
zitis the Prince, 11.egenti to the Ministers ot
resident •at this•CoUrt, that the necessary•()Wl': .trs s r
i't
with be issaed to the Officer eomalanding N
of do
and vessels employed in the Blockade of be CY'ut
to Discontinue the said Blockade. -

• ' BANKRUPTCIES ENLAIV=EV' .fin,u "Et
3
Thomas Bf•intl, Marton Yorkshire mantifacturc`'
it
• Sept'
Jullitt~ll,7le.
rsth; rn, Surrey, .hrichjaver, frog
to Sept. 17.
BANKRUPI,ICIRS SUPERSET:EP'
Georgerf !ago e, Slid:lod, Yorkshire, 01"10, ,ts•
Thornai Parkin, Broad-street London, laerC'. r.
-
IItVN K it,U rel'S • • (1.1',,i;
Thomas Cassidyz Fletni-Ilenipstead,•liertforclisfilet,reatt
to surrender Sept. 10, Oct. 1 and 15, at twe'• . ,
London. Attorney, Mr. Parton, Walbc"i r, SeS;ter
Sainuel Ilesketh, Didshitry, Lancashire, cow-de
24, and Oct. 15, at nine', at- the Dog 'laver", vaac.be
Attornies, Messrs.Milue, Serge-tot and od
or Messi:l. Milne and Parry, 'l'emple. p, 4t' st
Benjamin %Vise, Cheltenham., carpenter, 5eP',.;,.1,i1. tit
t°ocrtt; i illeesis
eleven, e7,,riacet
Wm. liartle:y, Bristol. • •
Edward Cloiow, Nt,,A" Mills; I)trhysitire, c tar
Sept. 26, 28, and Oct. 15, at elel'Pn, at
Manchester. Attornies; MessrS. Cooper II" 'le1;96111'
ao.pton-Intiltlings, Chaucer~; Lane, or My• ,
chester. . quell; le'
Joseph Smith and Smith, Bristol, caltillet-4;;at,„,."
16, 17 and Oct. 15, at twelve, at the Grr"ii'l77
Broad-'lllearl, 13ristol.. Atternies, 17- lir
yl
Inn, or Mr. It. Haynes, Czistk-street, lirist""h4Vl4l
William Baker, Southampton, „-5441/„.
two, eo, at eleven, and -Oct. 15; at two, at t"',.y.17,f,i
Alton. r.
Attorney, r. c icineDt, Alton-t,i, t:
win...Halton, Rm ichond-buildings,ti e
u, and Oct. 15, 'at tweire, at Guildhall. ,
• t,
Oldliatfi;_ Earl-street, 131ackfriart,. sat'
Thomas Keswick, Nlanchester,- warehouscrolo',
and Oct 15, at two, at the Oridge..v.del•
cliester. AUDI-nits, Mr. 11.111fiettl, l'tfancitecter'
1. r ,114
'Hurd, Temple.
Richard Brown, Aston, Warwickshire, builder,
and Oct. 15, at twelve, at the Itoyal
Birmingham. Attornies, Mr. Egerton, Gr'-'Y
or Messrs. Stubbs, Metes And Wills, Biralkogto•r
• • id,
DWI DENDS.
( it
1 (); I:,,,el:ii:!e:iio'n4:oL'i
Commercial RoOm Bristol—Oet. 3. .3; (I);S,o,l'ire4t
ham, tortoise-shell-case maker, at eleven, t ott",,,il'
Birmingham—Sept. 9. T. M. c„pp•Bi Great, Pre'" at
Goodman's-fields, Middlese, taie-rC,liiant, at e`e'''stb!
Lonclon--Sept.•,24. J. Hat's Lower
Middlesex, cullar-maker, t Guildba`
()et. 4. Thonias, 'l3catwli vGla‘intOr
g,LI .4ept•
twelve, at tin! Cmabitian al3'ser,
Hoc mat' zin,l .T. Howgate, jun.
turers, at -foot., at the New Court
13. H. Shuttleworth, Ludgate-hill, 1.01“1,“"t f.s(l'
t were; a ttP t Gulidli—Sept. W. ilorajYl,- /IP
Inlr4ll, Lincolo, and. Sir dose Ai Esdailef.r!,','`'lol:tfill,t'
den, rssex, hankers,' at Weltal., at the AV'''`,loo,g,or
G.ai itslollgll—Sept. 1).•L. Pereira, itstialeo-10,1,0r t dc.
I`.l i d ..,sex, niterwriter, ten. at Gllilalri',;iat,
Oct. 4. C: Jones, Cannon-street, Loncfon, 01°,0. C:
ven, at. Guildhall—Sept. 30. W. Pennell, jail. '-seiyt•,
hithe, London. merchant, at ten at Guildhall'''. At t.tt;4l:/
Parker, Sun-street, 13ishopsgate-Within, grot:c:j.
Guildhall—Oct. 1: J. Dothy, of Cahlt"-'3tr'i-
pel, grocer, at ten at Guildhall---Sept•
moue bury, Vii., clothier, at eleven, at the ,:
dersfield, YorkScpt. '27. W. Fawcett,
at one, at the.YOrkllutcl, Liverpool-5.171'i LiOr/
Liverpool,' merchant, at one, at the York 1-10"

CERTIFICATES—SErr. 21.
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1 rooks, Paddington curl j tOl-piano
Smithfield,
Howard,
Hobson, Stockport, Cheshire., t7ontittant:'-tspitnies.
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(!face keepers--J. Patem;it, j,„„. E. corwellte,
Friday-street, Cheap side, muslin-marnifien-J3
Chapman and J. Roberts, Corali ill, cheinisls•
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