The Sun.
London, England, 1825-05-06 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

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A person froth the TreaSury presented at the bar several ac.
counts relative to the Excise.- •
Mr. H. DItUMMONI) presented apetition from the Edin-
burgh -G;as-light Company, praying to be heard by . Counsel
.petitions—from North
against several of the clauses in the British dii-light Company
Bill.
of Somerset ; from Lath_
ilWrnt:l.
oGrieilSpElapisro
in
ngtlitite threeucopunty
wick and other parishes in the same county ; and from North
Ferrytown, also in Sour ersetshire, in favour of the Ship Canal Bill.
NEWBURY IMPROVEMENT 81LL...
Mr. C. DUNDAS.thoved the third reading of this Bill.
Lord FOLKSTONE opposed the motion, because he' ob-
jected to die improved scale upon which the new assessment of
the Poor-rate's ivas proposed to be made under this Bill.
Mr. MONWS said he should propose as an amendment, or
by trdy Of 'Cider, to Substitute for the words 51., the words 81., as
the lowest rental-to which the scale should be applicable. •
Mi. FYSHE P/11431E:1t-observed, that under this Bill the
rate would be 4s. 6d. in the pound on the rental; and this Was
to apply even to the rentals of (1. per annum. But Was there
'ever such a 'proposition heard of before? Let the ]louse sup-
pose a' case of a cottager, who resided in a place for which he
had to pay 51. a-year rent ; such a rate ,would absolutely form
a very considerable proportion of his whole rent,—(Hear,' hear !)
.--If the Hon. Member persisted in moving the third -reading'
of the Bill, e (Mr. F. Paliner) would oppose that motion, or
he would move, that, following the example of a Bill passed
sonic time since for the improvement of the town of Bedford,
the rate up_on such rentals should he Is. and no more.
111 r. C. DUN DA S said .a few words, we believe in •explana-'
tion ; and the House divided. The numbers were—.
For the third reading, 24 1 Against 4,12 1 Majority, 12.
On Our return into the gallery, we found
and
Mr. MONCJ contending that the object of this Bill was
neither more nor lesi titan to exempt the richest part of the
community, of Newbnr.y.froth any prproportionablepayment
n) impose the whole weight of the burden upon the poor. This
was the real object Of theobscurely :Bill, however
it might be
stated. .
Mr. BRIGHT said • m the Bill went to regulate the payment
by •
of that ivhich'svai already regulated Act of Parliament. ~
The House again divided,: Pl."';we understood), on the clauie
by ;Ur. 1 onek ; and the numbers
proposed, by way of rid i.' m
were—
' ' ingi it, in Ma- •
, For thi Oat*, 23 1 Aga . ,w I 3oritt, 4
On the re-opening a the gallFy, _ founde.m _the Spi:AR r tt
propoiing the ellipse moved
.1-)y,ITI !"1,-;„, %pat 4, such as,
iessinerit should in no case eXeflea„,nua'"'!'""g ,_
n g e .the,H
• A er a
when there appeared
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~.„, zt, .
..a. .
() ! m jority ....t.
riJi tfieAtiiethimeni 3 I Af,a'ns' ,'
t u a petition
Mr. Serjtant ONSLOW presen e . from Charles

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Sliort,,lsq., Barrister-at,law, whOf as we understoo4, .field,
some official situation in the (2oUrt of King's 13er:h, pp Ping
fin compensation, in f!...e event of - the County Courts Bill. beta.-
passed into a law.-4 Aid on the table.-
. . •- USURY LAWS. ,

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The Learned Serjeant then have notiee,"that early..in the nett
session he would trove for a Committee-to inquire into the po-
licy and effects of the Usury Laws.

CORN LAWS.
•
Mr. LINDSAY presented a petition from certain IVlagis-
trates and
,Burgesses of the royal burgh of nirfai, in favour of
a revision of the Corn Laws.

Sir J. W. 11‘KENZIE presented a petition frouLthe West,
ern }arming Society of the county of Ross, against an' altera.
tion ih the Corn . 1 Avrs.

Mr. FARQUIIARSON._presented a petition of a similar na-
ture from t 4 Members of the Synod •at Angus. ' "
Sir E. KNATCII BULL presented a similar petition from
Grinstead, in' the county of Sussex.
Mr. ELLICE preaented a similar petition from a body' of
fanners in the county of Aberdeen. -
The-llon. Member also presented a petition from the parish
of
.Ilay, Scotland, dr-a similar description.--The petition.s were
seierally,laid on the table.
• ' COMBESIATION LAWS. •
Petitions against the re-enactment of the Combination Laws
were presented by Alderman WooD, from a considerable awn.
her of operative sawyers of the city of London ; by Sir E.
KNATCHBULL, from . the ShipwrightS of Deptford ; by Mr.
BERN AL, from the operative sawyers of Rochester and
Chatham,; and also from the sawyers employed on the banks,
of the river Thames.

Sir lll.W. RIDLEY presented a petition from two melt.
respectable persons, Messrs. Spurling and Young, of Lime-,
house, who were owners of extensive yards for ship-building:,
They complained, that in a petition which had recently been,
presented to the House from a body of shipwrights,. the peti-.
tioners stated that they were not alloWed to employ their sons in.
latiotir at the yards. That allegation was unfounded.; and it
Was a. remarkable fact, that six of the men who signed. that Pe-
tition had their sons employed in the yard of Messrs. Spurling.
and Co., and received wages for their labour. They wished
this mis-statement should be corrected, and that the petition.
should be referred to the Committee above stairs
The petitions were severally referred to the Committecon
the Combination Laws.
SLAVERY.

Mr. EVANS moved that an address be presented to his :11a-,
jetty, praying for a return of the amount of the slave popula-.
don of the Cape of Good,Hope and the Mauritius, distinguish-
ing males from females, as received from the office of. 'register
of the colonies, from its first . establishment ; also a return of
the slave popdation of the West Indies and the continent of
South America, distinguishing males from females, as received.
since the 18th of April, 1824.—Agreed to.
Sir.J. Ci. COTTERELL Presented a petition from the Ma
-gistrates of the County of Hereford, relative to. the county,
rates.,--Referred to the Committee on the County:Rates Bill. '
111 r. .7. DALY presented a petition from the town of
way, in favour of provincial banks: _
Mr. MONCK postponed his motion for prohibiting, in cer-.
tain cases, the payment of the wages of labourers out of the
poor rates, until Tuesday next.
ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAIMS.
111 r. DENMAN rose to 'present a petition, which, though
,signed by only, three individuals. inhabitants:of. Derby, was
every way worthy the attention of the Douse, since those indi-
viduals were of the highest respectability, -and professed the
most liberal Principles. He. believed the •ll.on. .Metuber for
Deibyshire wonldfed no hesitation in tearing testimony to the
respectability. of the parties-who
.felt it their duty to apppoach.
the House on this.occasion.... They were respectively. .the
sters of congregations of the Presbyterian, Baptist, and Inde-.
pendent denomination, and their reason for petitioning the
House was,. because theyhad "heard that a petition had been
presented to Parliament on behalf of certain persons calling
themselves Protestant Diasenteri, 'of Derby, against the'Bill•
for the:-relief 'of -Roman Catholics—a proeeeding which they
held to be not only• illiberal in-itself, but perfectly inconsistent •
-.with the doctrine on which the Protestant Dissenters acted.
The petitioners, were of opinion, that liberty of conscience was
a principle, sacred, universal, and inalienable; and they held
that'any restraints placed upon it, either by pains or penalties,
or by exclosion.from civil situations, were acts of oppression
and wrong. In conclusion, they called on 'the House to grant
to the Roman Catholics the relief which they prayed for.
Lord Cr. CASTEN DISII (we believe) bore testimony-to the
great respectability of the petitioners.
Sir J. NEWPORT said, a circumstance bad taken place
lately in Ireland, which must tend to do away the prejudice
that, existed against the Roman Catholic parochial Clergy: The
inhabitants-of the town of Newcastle; Protestant and Catholic,
met, under Mr. Goulburn's act, for the purpose of coming to a
composition for the tithes. The parish priest was called AO the
chair, and he behaved so well in that situation, that, after a
composition had been. agreed to, the, rector, whoi was present,
moved " That the thanks of this meeting are justly•due to the
Rev. P..l.arkin, for, his exertions to carry, into effect the proYis
siont-of the act of Parliament allowing a composition for tithes;
—(lleat, hear !)—Thill was highly honourable to all parties.
The circumstance occurred in a parish which he had known fur
.upwards of forty years, and it was a 'remarkable fact, that bere'...
tofbre, whenever disturbances took place in the county of .Wa-
terford, 'especially relative to tithes, this place-was sore
.to.he
disturbed, The clergyriiiiiiliad, it appeared: tranquillizial.the
lthe most perfect peace and cordiality existed be..
irotestant inhabitants, who were but few, and their
~I.l)w:eti:iillL'ill'Cenathol itch he ejilgohubsOeuors4ltSnu9cth
t 0
000lcide conduct as
iaswallye
withhad tileddescrib-
edea proved that
t:tilieerPgyrotenstitiaeanvt°clireeirglyi ftiryomhecoelfectreiin.l
,thattoiftbthe
"tithes..-Laid
pißo,aowimderao,niti.oCtii)aietrhetv6:li)iiiel
Petitions against the Catholic Claim's were presented, from •
Garston, •Stafibrdshire ; by Mr. Cartwright, from Ritshfon,
county of Northampton; and by Mr. Alderman Thompson,
from the parish of St. 'James, Cardiff.-The petitions were se
verallYlaid on the table. .
Mr. BROUGHAM wished to take that opportunity of stat-
ing, with respect to a 'very important. subject (the Catholic .Re-
lief Bill) which !toed for discussion to-morrow -night, (aad be
did so because, from its having been put oft'. last Monday, great
doubts were exprested by some gentlemen. in a way exceeding-
ly unsatisfactory, unnecessary. and uncalled for, • whether it
would be brought tbrward at the time now proposed), that it
was certain to come on to-niorrOw.- (Hear, hear !)—Of that he
could assure the House. Whether his lion. Friend the Mem-
ber for Westminster was in hie place or not (and he knew that
his Hon. Friend did not wish for any postponement .of the mea=
Sure)—[Plear !)-:the discussion would be broUght on: if no
other Member would undertake to.introdtiee it to-morrow, he
pledged himself that he would at all events.
An Hon. Member inquired whether it would Conte on before
the. other Orders _

11E. DITTIES ON REPR
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Mr. It ROLIG EIA M answered, certainly.
Mr. lIOBEIOITSE presented apetition froth the inhabitants
of Westminster in favour of the Bill to prevent Cruelty to
AninialS. . . . -
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from. the parish of
S. Saviour, Southwark, (the petitioners complained that the
poor were paying 5.000,000/. a year in 4uties on malt find beer,
while the rich did .not pay More than 500;000/.); b—
wePrie'prrie'sreln(t)eNd,SbyAllGlrA. TANhSleTrinl:tri Wooi,,
by 111 r• Dm-
man; froth the mechanics, labourers, and Jitu;bantlnicn of.
Woolwich ; by Mr. Calcraft, front the ..lechrinics, labourers,
and other inhabitants of St. 'Margaret's, Wetitminst.?r ; by _ll r.
llobliouse, from the tnechanics., labourers, and inhabitants of
St...lolth's Westminster ; by 51r. Vernal, front the inhabitants
inhabitants of tflioellalairtil_esliinnifiaSbti.tGnetsorogres,tl.ll;ltinaor7,rs:
of Lathbeth ; by 31r. J. Williams, trim the thechaniea aini la-
bourers of Hatininersmith ; by Mr. Alonek, from the* jo.urni2-
odd:markl,rot.ql4ani,, frotn tlie inhabitants
then tnechanicsbayntsliroßth.elrviini:;nb,itra;:tnst of 'eßei:itilian:4-ralti:di)f.:3:,,s)sto-.
o,f rgrot mitahrece ep; :bar
yii
snii:iinoifh.
_.-grferin and alSo froth the
(A)liithreitl,h,satot
mechanics, labourers, and' inhabitants of the parish a Se.
Luke. Old-street. The gi eater piirt ot the
.petitioneri; ej..
pressed the satistitctieth they felt at the reiluetion of the duties
' 1 fS' d a hope that, as the Leg' i t -
on wine, and exp es e
._ . ..., is a ure, hr,d ye-
St: lattliew, Bethnal.
(laced the price of it Itititiry which thertett only could procure,
on I.leo, width,' atheingst the poor, r au absolute neeeiSaty
they wotild see the justiee' arid propriety Of lowering the 4)lty
of life.—The petitions were severally 1,1. on the table. ..
pursuant to notice,. to sidirriii.lo.;•Le
MOTION FOR ' THE ~RF.P.t.4lt OF TIIE- fiptit
DuTrEs..
. •
sorvill .with saiSfactibn the many applications' which had Jen
made to the House, praying that those duties 'should be re-
moved • but if there were not a single petition before the House
lii)MurS•ellralproAllpEosißtiloNti frooA'ire repeal of fki• duties " lieet,
.k.: 1.. i:
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on this ettleet,-still,he thoAght•Parliamerst wail 'bound to at er
ihe:syAtvin which now provarifetik andto gratiOatig.' t 6 'th'iMat
}body of the people.; It wee-the:duty-of-the :beeilitlature tnict.with
4Mpertiality;,,end he :would say, that ,if eve:there-wee a :Statute
passed, thataees. Pa. atiei ; eee, a its operationatiett .wescoretra'ry. to •
:lueiiCeir- it wee, that which imposed the existirig-drt dew on lifer.
• He jell' keard the Chancellor -of -the Bxehequer, ;and' ,the .Ilight
lione_Peesiderat of the Boardof Trade.declardi that' tilernieldl '
, to adopt a syatentaaf liberal policy in every. respect a ,and from
What lie had. Seen, he belieeedaheir anxietyAodcesewasesineere
and disin tteeeted,• After. the liberal• opinionslte- had heard theta
express on,difeeent octetsiona in that HouSee he hedge• right., he
though..tetrafeel stirs :that-he should have their votesethis night.
There was hut one diflicalty.which stood in the var-of hie nio-
tiqn—there was but One argument which the gentlemen ttewlieus
he, lied,allutled could adyance againia iteriatriely, the loss which
the, reveitue, would sustain..' They.principle they must give up
to him„.,uplesa.,they, tumed round on the atsed by
:Allenutelyes,thia:Seasion., If wished to do justiee, this tax,
if. it must be,tanitinned, should be made to bear equally on all
••classes, 4.s7l.u.rtfair that it- should Tali heavily on these w!e.
were least able to afford it,. while it did not touch the opuler t
lime of society.. It was improbable that the flotese,•itt general,
wetild uoderetenti the situation in which- the country stood With
reference to these duties, unless he entered int.a some little de.
twit on tlils.subject. At present there was a tax on, male of 20s. •
par quarter; but the House could recollect . that the effects of
that tax.were very different on those who brewed their own
beer, w hen .compared , with the effect of die beer dutiee o.t those, •
who purchased that beverage from the brewer. The rich 'man
, could brew his own beer ; but the' poor. man, who feel neither
preinieesecapital, skill, or time, could not. • fie theeefore, was
deprived of the.benefit which Ahe opulent man enjoyed. :
.The
beer duty was, itefact, a tax On the poor individual, front which
the weelthY, individual was .exempted.. He demanded of the
House, whether they wonld.,continue to support so' unfair, and
so unjust a principle. The duty .-Ma beer was very consider-
able. It produced annually 2;281,000/., which was charged with •
.05,000/. for collection. • This was chiefly contributed by the
poor ; and lie knew not how any man could reconcile it to, his
' coascienca,to vote againstamotion Whichitas intended to lighten
such a serious burden.. The rich man paid Via:per quarter-for
his Malt. That was the.. only.tax levied-.on hint. But poor
Li man had. to meet a double duty-20s. malt duty; and 355: .tieer
1 duty ; making-a duty of .555.. If the calculation were Matte by
the bushel, the rich man paid 10.0., while. the .poor mati 'Paid
2s. - He would ask,. was this .a just measure of legislation?—
: Was it fair or proper? Nothing .tended more to, bring lea
gialielon.into disrepute than a proceedingso unjust and partial ;
and therelbre some measure ought to be taken to place this tax
oti aproper footing. , The duty ought either to he removed alto-
gether, or it should be put on in such a manner-that every class
should.payalike. As the law stow stood, the rids Man- paid ,
.ss: for that which -cost the -poor manlsa.' —duel:tette. Peid4d.
a eallon More for beer titan the fornier. With, respect to the
plan for introducing a new beer, which the Chancellor of ifie
Exchequer had entleavonred by a legislative enactment. to:beiee
into :use, lie believed it had, not prodeeed the coatemplated
effect, as, in course of , the .yeate but fifteen-thousand her-
rels ef ,beer were brewed under that Act. These dutieee•al-
though in the . opinion of some Gentlemen they might be so
unimpertant es to need no ulceration, were. founded Lipari a
principle which could not stand the test of: examination. They
enforced fioni the poor man a tax of between 20411..npd 390/.
per Ceet;Morethan was plaid by the rich. To. the:tatter, :the
article of b;.,er was a luxury; to the former.. it was et* of the
indispensable. necessaries of life. The poor.matereqturtel .aeine-
thing more than the bread and, cheese by which he -supported
his existence, . Ile required some ,liquor, and none. waa heifer
lei the Purposes of nourishment and refreshment,than .beetel--
The effect of spirits upon the lower classes of the eonitnitnfty
aas knbivp to be most injurious and• demoralizing. klperi.Alaia
staternent Of the facts
.which this .subject, disclosed, he,.ftS4o;
then, whethin• the house could resolve any longer. to ceititinaie
ea tax so partial in its operation, and sylliett weighed aolieat,ily:
upon the poorer cusses.? It had been Said by some -,ofilettse
who were opposed to the view which lie•Ole.Alitherly)totak•pt
this subject, that the poor men might brew his awn. beer, 'mid
thus exempt himself front the payment of this tax ; but ,he
could do no such thing, To brew required time, which•-:fie
could not give ; it required 'matey, which he did not posses 4
and space, which he could, not command... He waa., probetTy
, ' the inhabitant of a garret, anti his daily, earnings.pnly enahled
him to provide for his daily. necessities. Where, thee, and how
was he to biew beer? He, had Meeality no eptioneet.all.,aild
no itteels of avoiding
.the payment of this, tuljeet aril burtieti-
' some duty. There was, however, a. means by which the weisi-Itt
might be removed; and this_ was, by placing the duty on malt
instead of on beer. The, expence of collecting 41.. t . 4 411 .pn
malt was now 300,000/. per annum. . If .the ,alteration here-
commended be adopted, this sum would be saved te,the,tOpit-
,
try ; becatse, although the duty on. one was ,20A, and..methe
other 405., the expence of collecting would be .the =nee:-
Upon the subject to which lie now called. the attention- .of `
;lie
House,. lie had twice before approached it. lre litid then, a.s
he :rested he had done now, treated the subject fairly_., (hi the
first occasion, iii 1823, he hail asked only: fora .14entatittee'40'
inqeire into the matter,, and lie had given,the 4ight,il6/14417.
bie Gentleman (the Chancellor of 'the .Excileteier.) an, ofatior'..
eunity, if he hadchesen to avail himself 'of it,
.of.doing .what
must have given' satisfaction. The ;lit.tatie. thenliafil, tmtt the
duty was so just, -sa fair," se proper' that .there'Onghi Co...berib '--
inquiry at all; and, this, too, at the very .-nipnicet when. the. '
Hight Hon... Gentlemen was dabbling (if he might ueedeteeka
pression) with a measure he had since Carried reap:teeingbeer,
and which,. although it had •dene some, good, 1.04 411.4} tit. .
short of the remedy which,theauhjeet:reqturett. eta- (tae Seile.,
moment, too, that the .11busr rejected the.inettiry ftar which lie
moved, there was lying Methe'table a , vedette . fretn, seothand. --
in which doubts were express of the,"poseilaility.o:. leyyilik';•
, the duty. II is wish for A Committei•Fireaefrornihe exoeriencelle
hatihad of the 'usefulness of' suideineutrtexa, ...tiofellvAllai)a,thi, .
rnOSt ialUable and correct inforinatiOn whiehlaudefferebeepote.
tairied on any subject had. been tbrOugh the:Contuattee.ol'o4
II ouie. l'n the.fol owing year.(lo24 )he bad inppatead it.k wont, - •
tee to inquire into the, e7cpedieney of stibstittuiflg a.t4. pp Aieer
for a tax on malt ,of the saute aMount ; . and this, too, 40,beeki
refused. If, therefore, in again approaching the !louse an
the same subject, he should vary Atie,je;tus ef..his prepeaie
tion, he hoped he should stand . excused„:. The. mottote
,ee
should now submit was uMeli 'stronger and t:note, extenaive iltan
thoSe lie had before Suggested -; bUt the, evil was enewhierl
required a strong t•errietly. 111 S 1110itc:111: would 4, that. ftoni.
the sth of January. next. all the duteeeCn beee.should .ceas.e.
'lle-inquities he had asked for had been refused,. and :breve':
wee nothing left him but this course.:. If the. Principle, of 'th.
tite against, which lie eentemied was right, why was ;it net fol.,
lowed up in other instances? Why.were not, tea.,,cand4a, soap,.
letither.eglass,_ wine,. and tohaece, all taxed in.the.aeine inatt.:.
'ler ? Would the Right lion. Geptientart dare to put Peak:tie,
• (tide to any bill that he Should have 'to propose, sach items as
that the poor pan should pay 6d, it galleteduty po his:herr:, -
while the rich roan paitl only 21-tl. I' And , yet this, was the. ac.
tuttl Operation of the present law. It lied been ;urged by weT,
of excuse for this tax 2 thet it prevented die•teuxipg art noxious
ingrediantain beer.; but if
.tilis were really iheyealen, why was
it not applied to wine ainttea.? or why were not the contnitAiers
..
left to the exercise Of their own judgment end taste in that ea.,.
in other things
"The system as it existed encouraged a mono, ~
poly, if , not to the brewer,.: at least. to the retailer, by mean, 4'4
the liceticea.. 411 the reasonebltegood that ep‘!i4 be expectedl4)
result to the police of the country, would, be front Aaying putifiee -.
honses placed under a prpper :sir eeijliotcr, pit this mighebeer-
fected by allowing officers to visit the hohaes in which beer was re- ..
tailed, ttapreeent their beingmadetheeesori of improper perepit.
WO* were admitted, the House could. not 'rerube to; come to
the decision that the sale of beer ought to be as Get; as that of
any other commodity: But it would be, said, perberteethat to
take ofrthis.tax might interfere with hat . the.ilighs 4ioo.
Gentleman Called a sinking-fund, hut what he f ille.:4llltherlye •
denied to be any, such thing; beeause that only copl4:4e cariPd
a Sinking-fund which was an actual. surplns '- in .vlie,-..reveutie.
,He contended that the debt was,_ now 12 mns..reore than. it .
liad.been in. 1815, and' tharthis was occasion, by:the .‘ (ext-
-
weight act." It' hr had not aireatlY *An- out the''injuse
tike Cif' the tax ..on beer he would refer, tothrredifction whieh, ~,,
,had :beep made, in the duty or. spirits, . and, which- 'as:they,
.:
Weeeelepis .necessary,, ought to have been *postrmtell :-.in Jim ..,,
course of relief to beer. He knew, the Right Hon., Gentleee - •
man would say that hie object ,in this bad,',ll.oX•tm`Pat a stop
ha .aninggling., Jatit, in. this, :he ' bedew; . succree/edi .because the
riiiiiiire still rer4tned streng,eneogh, to, Arititleo,•thelPractiocei
I.acioki ng sit , the eubject then in this poilit of view alone,. the_.,
the people-bides ;right to-ask for:. ,a '. redaction- It.,woubt
_ _..
mot, pertkaik,4i-rr4tijjy . believed, •b 4.11 Ills fast was an,- ebee.ooo,,-
. Iliitht IliiirGeittleinan and .his. talks:goes in duet --thankberiltv
in, tile.wrea:s47,4xe4 Ake: 90.41 C Pitable,, 'ivAet.',!'ll4lhinfecialii,
in 'EIS-opinion, be snore absurd than this. They might with
as good reason fix the price of bread, as interfere with another
article not less necessary, nor of less common consumption.,

Alter the experience be had already encountered, he wail pre-
pared to believe it possible that he might lose the present mo-
tion ; but he should nevertheless feel it his duty to take the
sense of the House on the resolution. He concluded by saying
ttiat he hoped, if he were defeated, his labours might at least
have the effect of convincing the House of the Injustice of con-
tinuing this burdensome tax on the people, and that some other
more fortunate person would propose a measure which, if it did
not do away with it altogether, would divide its weight equally,
between the rich and the poor. The Hon. Member then moved,
" that from and after the 6th day of January, 1826, all the du-
ties on beer should cease--(Cheers.)
Mr. BROUGHAM said, that in rising to second the motion
of his Hon. Friend, he could add little to what had been so
ably waged by him. He felt, however, compelled to mention
once again, in addition .to the hardship on the poor man of pay-
ing 50s. while the rich paid only 20s. (it was, indeed, rather
more than this, for the duty on beer exceeded 305., and that on
malt was only 205.), that other tax which he was compelled to
pay by reason of the retail trade not being free. Why the sale
of beer should be placed on a different footing from that of any
other commodity, it was impossible reasonably to conceive.
Attity it should be exposed to the operation 'of a restrictive tax
IQ barbarous that it could not be equalled by any in the world,
excepting that most barbarous Spanish tax of al cabala, no
-man could offer the semblance of a pretext. It was wholly
impracticable for a person desirons to trade in beer by
retail to do so unless he made friends with the brewers, who
had influence with those worthy persons, the magistrates, by
whon-i, in various parts of the country, the regulations were
framed relative to licences.: , He knew he spoke this in the hear-
ing of many worthy friends of his who belonged to that class
by whom beer was prepared for the use of his Majesty's sub,
jests, and he knew that they had certain prejudices on this
subject, but if the duty were taken off, he believed these pre-
j'adices would be in a great measure removed, and that they
would consent to the freeing of the retail trade in beer from the
present restrictions. To the persons interested in growing malt,
this would be a decided advantage, because it would encourage
the growth of grain upon middling land, which was at preSent
used for grazing, and would thus materially benefit the open
and 'barley countries. Another' rdvantage attendant upon
t4rowing the trade open, would be found in providing the poor
man with a cheap and wholesome beverage, which lie might
procure without the inconveniences of sending his dmighters or
other females of his family to the public hOuse, to encounter,all
the inconveniences which at present could not be avoided. Gin
would be in a great measure dispensed, with; and his notion
was, that the more the beer shops could be brought into coin-
petition with the gin-shops the better. He thought too that
the duty oir beer was peculiarly burdensome and unjust
upon the poor at this time, when the duty on wine had been
rithiced. He said nothing with respect to that upon spirits-
God forbid that he should ! He would rather even that
the duty should be kept up unnecessarily high upon them
—he would rather even that the natural liberty of the
people should be in such a degree infringed upon, than
that any facility should be afforded to the consumption of spirits,
always, however, keeping the duty as high as to prevent the
encouragement of private distillation, which of the two evils
was the greater. He was sure that' by encouraging the con-
sumption of beer, the gap which the losa of the duty might
occasion in the Exchequer would very soon be filled up. He
gladly seconded the motion of his Honourable friend. What-
ever might be the fate of that motion, he trusted that his Hon.
Friend would bear his ill•success with patience ; froin others
he might learn fortune • ; but from his example, and from
that school of disappointment in which they had both been
exercised, he might be taught not to relax his labour and per-
severance in a cause which was worthy of them.- ( Hear !)
* Disce, puer, virttitem ex me, verumque raborem ;
Fortunam ex aliis.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was
compelled to oppose the former motions of the Hon. Gentle-
, risen, because there was nothing in the subject which required
an examination by a Committee. ;Now the Honourable Gen-
tleman, proposed to place the beer duty on malt, and on this
he would make a few observations. As to the total repeal
of the duty without any substitute whatever, he did not feel
called upon to argue that question, because the Right Hon.
Gentleman himself did not seem to think it was practicable to
take off three millions. A few weeks ago the Hon. Gentleman
proposed the reduction of the Window-tax, amounting to
1,250,000/. The same arguments which had been used against
that measure applied to the present motion, and he did not think
the House would choose to listen to a repetition tif them. He
was aware that in so immense a system of revenue as ours,
there might be very sound objections brought against many
• branches of it, and this might, perhaps, be stated of all ; but
beyond this general fact the argument could not be urged. The
petitioners probably believed that the substitution of the beer
duty on malt would materially reduce the price of beer ; but he
should- be able, he thought, to satisfy the House that this was
not the case. The. beer duty produced at present 3,000,0001.
per annum. To raise this tax by the substitution proposed,
it would be necessary to lay an additional tax of two shillings
on the thirty million bushels of malt which must be consumed;
--this would raise the price of beer 10s. per barrel of 36 gallons,
or about Id. per quart. If, therefore, he admitted that the
objections of the Hon.- Gentleman were valid against the ine-
4-quality of the present duty, still the burden would rest, as it
,glid now, upon the consumer, who, although he would have
the satisfaction of knowing that his neighbour paid more,
wothl himself pay nothing less. The Right Honourable Geb.
- Oinnan could not admit that this tax was paid by the poor
classes of the community exclusively, or chiefly. In this
• town a great portion of the consumers of beer were not of
this description, and in the country a great number of families
were in the practice of brewing their own beer. Upon them
- this substitution would fall very heavily. The Honourable
Gentleman had assumed, too, in his calculation, that the beer
consumed by the rich and the poor was of the same etrength—
that it took in all cases only one iinarter of malt to make three
barrels and a half of beer. On the contrary, the beer of the
rick man, whether he drank it himself or not, was much
stronger than that brewed for ordinary consumption. In this
.point of view, therefore, the calculation of the Hon. Gent. as to
the inequality was erroneous. The Hon. and Learned Gentle-
man (Mr. Brougham) had said it would be highly desirable to
give greater facility to the retail trade. H e Sthe Chancellor of
the Exchequer) agreed With him. It was that opinion that in
-
• laced him to bring in a Bill to accomplish that purpose, and
erilich he had got the House to agree to, but with no small dif
-ficulty. " The Hon. and Learned Gentleman," said the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer, "may, learn fortunam ex aliis • but
not ex -me. To me the other part of the line, veriernque laborem,
calf applies." The Right. Hon. Gentleman had endeavoured

at the ;time time to effect" another measure relative to the esti-

mating and collecting the duty, and althOugh all were agreed
upon the principle, so Many obstacles were thrown in his way,
that he was obliged to abandon every thing else, and to fall
back upon the other measure, which was the real object of the
apprehensions of those who caused the obstacles. Although he
• could not pledge himself to any measure on the_ subject, he
•should be very glad if the state of the finances would allow him
'to take off the duty altogether; but he could not conceive that
the proposed substitution would be in any respect desirable. The
Hon. and Learned Gentlenil..n had said, that he wished the re-
duction of the duty oir spirits had been postponed to that on beer.
If by a wish-he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) could have ma-
naged the matter, it would have been done ; but tie was obliged,
in dealing with the spirits, to provide against any diminution
of the revenue, and-to do it, in fact, when he could. The object
in reducing the dotty on wine had been not so, much to relieve
any particular claw: of the people as on a principle of corn:mi.-
-eat policy to bring back the consumption to that point from
which, •in consequence of the intercourse with the continent,
and other causes,- it bad fallen oft: All he could say on the
subject before the House was, that it would give him great sa-
tisfaction. if he were able to reduce the duty on beer. If his ex-
pectationrshotlld be realized, lie would take the first opportu.
tunity-of dealing with the subject, but he must not hold out ex-
pectations of the fulfilment of which he was not certain. With
respect to thelion-aentletwarras -opinunt respecting the collec-
tion, he had -explained on a former occasion, that cilia was
founded on a misapprehension : it was impossible to ascertain
expence of the collection, bec.- use the same individual was
frequently employed in collecting various branches of the re.
venue. He could assure the Hon. Gentleman that if lie were.
more deeply initiated into the mode of collecting the Malt
Ditty, he would know there was none
•in which more frequent
attempts at evasion (many of them successful) were made.
Frequent prosecutions were the. consequence ; and if a double
ditty were imposed, a double, temptation would be the conse-
quence. For these reasons he. could not consent to the reduc-
tion of 3,090,000/. of taxes, nor at present to,any other modifi-
cation of the duty.
'Mr. BERNAl,supported the motion. lie maintained that
very few of the class of labourers; or even of respectable shop-
keepets, had the means of brewing their own beer. He denied
that the transfer of the duty to malt would occasion any consi-
derable increase of expence in the collection.

Mr. WO DE H 0 USE was of.opin'tan that the proposed trans-
fer of duty would by no means render beer cheaper.
%Ir. HUME said, that the transfer of the duty would not
operateinjuriously to the Exchequer, whilst at the same time it
would have the effect of placing the poor and the rich on an,
equal footing.
Colonel DAVIES supported the motion.
Mr. Alderman SMITH argued (as we underrood) that the
beer tax was moat unjust and oppressive towards the poor.
Mr. J. BENETT differed from the worthy Alderman in the
view which he took of the question. He believed that the shift-
ing of the tax would cause great inconvenience, without being
of any advantage to the poorer classes.
_Mr. BERRIES oppoecd the resolution, and denied that the

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Chancellor of the Exchequer had at all pledged himself to en-
tertain the principle of it.
Atr. Alderman WOOD complained heavily that, with all the
alterations made in the course of the present session, not one
shilling had been taken from the taxes that pressed immeCiately
upc.•:: the poor.
Mr. aIONCK wad in favour or a duty, on, beer to one half
the existing amount, 'and wished that the Hon. Member for
Abingdon would amend his resolutiOn, to that effect. .4s the
-motion stood, however, if it was persevered in, .he should cet-
tainly support it..,
Mr. ROBERTSON oppoSse—tt any reduction of taxes which
could lead to the slightest chance of trenching upon the Sink-
ing Fund.
Mr. CRESSETT PELHAM said a few words in a very
low tone of voice; we unders:ood-him to think that the lower
classes would be no gainers by an alteration.
Mr. J. SMITH thought, as regarded the question of the
Sinking Fund, that any deficiency occasioned by taking off the
beer tax might be made up by the imposition of some other.—
He would not at-all object to putting the whole duty upon
malt, which was proposed to be reduced on the manufactured
article : but he certainly did feel that after so Much had been
done for the advantage of the higher classes in the course of the
present Session, something ought to be, thought of before it
concluded, for-the benefit of the lower. .

Mr. MA BERLY, in reply, regretted to see the benches
on his side the House so thinly attended. After what he had
done so far, he did not think he should stand fairly in the eyes
of his country, if he withdrew his motion. lie hoped, if it was
thrown out (as it stood, pehaps,-in a fair way to be), that it
would not be long before the table of the House would be
covered with petitions for equal representation:
The House then divided—
For the motion, 23 Against it, 88 Majority, 65.
TRIALS IN SCOTLAND.
- - -

Mr. J. P. GRANT rose. pqrsuant to the notice he had
given, to move for leave to bring'in a bill to alter and amend
the existing law respecting wrongous imprisonment, and delays
of trial in Scotland. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman said,
it must be evident that it would be better that all the laws on
this subject should be comprehended in one Act, rather than
spread, as they now were, in a variety of Acts over the whole
statute beedc. It was allowed by every holy, that the Scottish
law was extremely defective on these points. Nothing could
be more absurdthan that' the inhabitants of one end of the coun-
try should live under one system of laws, so vitally affecting
their interests, while the inhabitants of the other end shoUldtve
under a different system. He could assure the Learned Lord
opposite (the Lord Advocate) that it was not his intention to
interfere with the office of Lord Advocate. His objects were
principally these—first, to throw greater remponsibility.on the
Magistrates in granting warrants for the apprehension cf cri-
minals; next, to give a more enlarged power to the Judges of
the criminal courts, for the better protection of the liberty of
the subject ; also to remove doubts and difficulties where they
existed ; and lastly, to place the poor man on the same footing
as the rich, with respect to trials. The lion. and bearned
Gentleman then proceeded to explain to the 'House, the insuf-
ficiency of the present law, and the absolute necessity of its
amendment. He added, that if the House should allow the
bill to be brought-in, he would propose that a distant day
should be appointed for its second reading►, in order that it
should in the mean time be printed and sent down to Scotland,
for the purpose of being submitted to the law authorities of
that country for their opinion. He concluded by moving for
leave to bring in the bill.
The, LORD ADVOCATE said he did not mean to oppose ,
the bringing in the Bill, but at the same time he thought that,
great catttion should be observed in interfering with a law which
had existed for upwards of one hundred years, and which might
be considered the habeas Corpus act of Scotland. The Learned
Lord then proceeded to call the attention of the House to the
advantages of the present law, and contended that the Act of
1701 afforded a greater protection to the people of Scotland
against wrongous imprisonment, than was afforded to the people
of England by the,habeas corpus act. He hoped, however, that
his Hon. and Learned Friend would bring in his Bill rather for
the amendment than the repeal of the present law, as the word
" repeal" might excite some alarm among the people of Scot-
land. The changes which the Bill of. Ibis lion. and Learned
Friend would introduce into the law of Scotland would cause
all the criminals of that country to be tried in Edinburgh, and
would so create an annual expellee of 15,0001. or 20,0001.,
without conferring any benefit on the.public.
r. A BE RC RO.MB Y thought that extreme caution should
he used in meddling with an Act so dear to the people of Scot-
land as the Act of 1701. He therefore concurred with the
Learned Lord in suggesting to his lion. and Learned Friend
the propriety of denominating his Bill a Bill to amend rather ,
than a Bill to repeal that Act. lie was aware that there were
some defects in that Act which required amendment; and he
thought that his Hon. and Learned Friee:l, in bringing them
under the attention of Parliament, was doing that which would
not only confer honour upon himself, but also great benefit upon
the community.

, The SOLIUTOR-GENERAL would not give his support
to this measure without taking time to consult those parties in
Scotland who were best acquainted with the practical operation
of the Act of 1701. At she same time he allowed that there
were several discrepancies in that Act, which appeared to him
to require the consideration of Parliament. _ _ _

Mr. DENMAN cOmpliinented the Learned Lord on the
conciliatory ton© in which he had met the motion of his Hon.
and Learned Friend,' and stated that he should be very happy
to give his humble -support to amending any defects vrhich
should be proved to exist in the Act of 1701—an Act which,
though it might not be perfect, was passed in very good times,
and for a very good and useful purpose.
Mr. G RA N T, in reply, said that he would comply with the
suggestions which had been made to him, and would alter the
title of his Bill from " a Bill to repeal," to " a 130.1 to amend,"
the Act of 1701.

Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
CRUEL TREATMENT OF ANIMALS.
Mr. 31ARTIN asked for leave tobring in a Bill to extend
the provisions of the Act 3 Geo. IV., cap. 71, to prevent the
cruel and improper treatment or cattle. his Bill was the exact
copy of a Bill which had been drawn up by the Attorney-
General, and which had formerly undergone discussion in an-
other place. The object of it was to render the cutting and
maiming of animals maliciously, punishable as a misdemea-
nour. Formerly, that offence was punishable under the Black
Act as a capital felony ' • but the repeal of that Act had brought
the old Law again into force, which punished the cutting and
maiming of cattle with transportation, provided it could be
proved that the party guilty of such cutting and maiming was
actuated by malice against their owner. Now he wished to give
to animals the right of protecting themselves--(Hear, anti a
laugh)—or rather to give to any person who chime to act as
their prochnin cmi, the right of covering them with the protec-
tion of tile law. With that view he submitted to the House
the draught of a Bill which had formerly been drawn up by
the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who now filled the high situ-
ation of his Majesty's Attorney-General.
Mr. PEEL would not oppose the introduction of die present
Bill : on tl contrary, he :was rather desirous to see it, as it
purported to come from his.llon. and Learned Friend the At
terney-General. He wished the Hon. Member for Galway
would introduce into.one Bill all'the objects of his compassion;
beCause, if he did not, the statute-book would soon be increased
to a very inconvenient bulk. - He likewise wished that the lion.
Member would define more clearly what he.meant by the word
" malice." Was it malice against the animal, or malice against
the master, which he wished to punish ?
Both; but particularly malice against
the animal." , - •

Mr. PEEL.—Was it then to be considered malice against
the animal, if any person cropped .a dog's ears ? If the dog
was tcr be the judge,- he would certainly deem it malice against
himself that led anyilersOn to muli•ate his body. If he un-
derstood any thin gof the Hon. Gentleman's Bill, it would cer-
tairfly tend to put dOwn,seeeralpractices which At present were
very prevaleift in atir`niode of treating brute animals.
Mr. PYBI4E PALMER read the preamble of ,the aet which
this Bill was ititrodUced to extend, and contended that front
the -very large terms of it, any extension of its powers.
.must be quite tmnecessary. Ne had intended to have opposed
the introduction of the measure ; but be would forego his in-
tention, in consequence of what had fallen from the Right
Hon. Secretary for the Home Department.
A.Meatrte a under the guLety wished to know whether the
nicking of horses, a practice to which the countrymen of the
Hon. Member for Galway were much addicted, was to be made
an offence tinder the present Bill ?
Mr. I%IARTIN replied, that-he had made nothing an of-
fence in his bill which had not been previously declared such
executed.—(A laegh.)—lt might
under the Black Act—an Act under which several men had
been hung, and repeatedly
be avery
i good joke—though, for his life, he could not see the
wit of it—to ask him whether he meant to make the cropping
of a dog's ears a miedenteanour. He had, however, a very
triumphant answer to give to it. It was not declared a hanging
matter under the Black Act to crop a dog's years; and it would
not, thee:,fore, under his Aet be declared a misdemeanour._
His bill would not prevent any Gentleman from bestowing on
his dog
the discipline it ought to follow in the el
t 1 : he might
that punishment which was necessary to remind it of
whip it if he pleased from sunrise to suited; but he must not
cut it or maim it wantonly, because such cutting and maim-
ing could neither improve it as a setter or a beagle. In the
Committee, if this bill should ever get so far, he should pro-
pose several additional clauses; but at present he should con-
tent himself with introducing it as it had been prepared by his
Hon. Friend the Attorney-General. The Hon. Member then
detailed the clauses which he intended to introduce, of which
the most remarkable is, to allow a known constable to appre-

hand any man whom he shall sec maiming or attacking any
animal.

After a few words..in explanation from Mr. PEEL and Mr.
Ma irrt sr, leave wit given to bringip the Bill.
Mr. PLUN NETT obtained leave to bring in a Bill for the
amendment of the laws with respect to special juries and trials
in Ireland. Ile stated his object.to be, to assimilate the law in
Ireland, for striking special juries,..to that in England ; -and
also, in certain cases, to enable parties, as was the case in Eng,
porate to the adjoininli.
land by an Act of 17113 to remove the venue from towns.cor-
county.
Mr. DENMAN hoped that the Right Hon. Gentleman
would introduce a-clause in his 8i11,,t0 enable defendants to
pray a tales-in special jury cases, without being obliged to re-
quest a warrant froni the Attdrney-General. He hoped the
Right Hon. Secretary (Mr. Peel) would introduce a similar
prevision-in.his general Jury was- then
g:ven to bring in the Bill. •
PRISON ABUSES.
Mr. JOHN SMITH, in rising to move for an Address to his
Majesty, for a copy of all correspondence between the Lord
Lieutenant of the \Vest Riding or the county of York and the
Secretary of state. respecting certain abuses and mismanage-
ment in the gaol of BrAford, said, that'his reason for calling
the attention of the House was this:—An individual had 'been
arrested for a small sum of money, by virtue of a process, and
he soon after broke loose from the bailiff, and was speedily re-
taken, and lodged in his gaol, where, owing to the gaolor being
an
so kept for seven weeks, except at intervals of five
this prisoner wai loaded with irens • and -hand-
h;eincidle
minutes once a week, to enable him to change his linen. The
prisoners at large complained of their treatment in this gaol;
and such was the petty tYranny which had been exercised,
that on application to the Lord Lieutenant of the West Riding
of York; and on reference to the Secretary of State, a prosecu- j
tion was ordered,-and one miscreant was convicted of cruelty to
a prisoner in his gaol. lie was glad to hear that no opposition
was intended. to his motioni'and that every desire had been ex.
pressed to correct such abuses and punish the delinquents. He
believed that in the paupers treatment of in some of the gaols,
the utmost barbarity was inflicted.
Mr. PEEL said that the lion. Gentleman had only done
him justice when he anticipated that he would not oppose such
a motion as this. If tach.abuses as were represented had been
committed, he shoultrnot so far disgrace himself as to attempt
to vindicate the delinquents,' or to oppose the production of any
correspondence which was calculated to throw a light on the
'subject. He then stated that ori,receiving a communication
from the Lord, Lieutenant of this district, who hail'done him-
self great credit by his conduct in this particular business, he,
(Mr Peel) had referred the subject to the consideration of the
Attorney and Solicitor.:General, and eventually 'ordered a pro-
secution, in which one of the parties had been convicted. He was
most anxious to see the small local jurisdictions throughout the
country avail themselves of the power which they now had of
sending their prisonensto the general county:gaol, upon paying
a small quota of expense: he wished this transfer to be more
generally exercised; indeed, he was disposed to go farther, and
say., that he did not think the
.general administration of the
justice of the country would be injured if these petty courts of
jurisdiction were abrogated in certain cases:—(Near!)
Mr. A IItRCROMIIV could not refrain from expressing
the gratification which he felt at the deck:teflon just made by
the Right Hon. Gentleman; and he-was rejoiced to find he Inol
brought his mind seriously.to consider the nature of these petty
jurisdictions. The best' way to give effective consideration to
this object would be to appoint Commissioners to inquire.
throughout the country into the condition of every court of petty
local jurisdiction.
The motion was alert *reed to.
COTTON AU NUFACTURES.
Mr. HOBHOLISE said,. that as he understood, no objection
would be made to his Motion, he meant simply to move for
leave to bring in a Hill for the better regulation of' the working-
hours of children employed in cotton-manufactories.
Mr. JOHN SM ITU highly approved of this Bill, and-wished
his Honourable Friend would extend the provisions of it to
children employed in other factories besides those for the manu-
facture of cotton.

Mr. HOBIiOUSE was afraid he should find quite enough
to do in directing the provisions of the Bill to its present purpose.
Mr. CA RUS WILSON wished to see it extended to children
employed in dressing flax.
Mr. PEEL entreated the House to pause, before they carried
their benevolent feelings-too fnr in the business of
lest they should compel manufactories to give up the employ-•
mentof children altogether,.rather than expose themselves to
harassing regtilatiori. He mad& this remark merely_with re-
ference to a too great extention of legislative interference;
Mr. W. S3IITH said, that it was obvious masters
ed children for their. own profit,, and would therefore continue
to do so, • notwithstanding Legislative interference.
Leave was given to bring in the bill.
SEDITION IN "SCOTLAND. • -
The LORD ADVOCAT F 4 of SCOTLAND obtained leave
•
to bring in a bin
to restrict tie punishment of leasing-leaking,.
and sedition-anti blasphemy in Scotland, and .to Alter the nld
law respecting these oflimces. • • - •
Lord JOHN RUSSI;•LI, approved of the proposed altera-
tion, which he was himself accidentally prevented from Wl-
miffing to the iloave a few years ago. • •
Mr. J. P. GRANT also approved of the revision of .the old
laws.

: ISLE OF MAN.
Mr. BERRIES obtained leave to bring in a Bill to enable
the Lords of the Treasury. to purchase the rights of the Duke
of Athol, and of the heirs generally of the seventh Earl of
Derby, in the Isle of Man.

_ .
BONDED CORN.
The Bonded corn Bill was brought read a first time, and or-
dered to be read a second time-to-morrow. . .
The Committee on the Quarantine Law's was postponed
until Tuesday next., - -
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at TWELVE O'CLOCK.

LIST OF. THE MINORITY
Of. 23, who voted on 31r. 31:,berly's Motion for taking off' the
Duty on neer, from January, 1826.
Allen, J. H. James. W. 'Smith, C.
Bernal, R. Langston, J. H. Smith, W.
Calvert, C. Leader, W. Wilson, Sir 11. .
Cradoek, S. 31onck, J. B. Wood, Alderman
Denman, T. 31aberly, W. L. Western, C. C.
Davies, Col, Palmer, C. F.
Grant, J. P. .--. Points, W. S. . TELT.r ns.
Honeywood,-W. P. Pryse, P. Jitupe, J.
Hobhcase, J.. C.. Smith, J. 3laberly, J.

SOUTH AMERICA.

PERU.

Wehave teceived a Litha Gazette of the lit
of January. It contains the result of the summons to Callao,
in consequence Of the treaty .concluded with La Serna at Aya-
cucho.-An officer, it appeared, as soon as the official dispatthes
had arrived, wits sent with a flag of truce to that fortress, but
was not admitted beyond the outposts of the Spanish force, and
General Rodll, who commanded in Callao, refused to receive
any propositioni for a surrender. By command of the President
Bolivar, the Commissioner of the Government and of the Spanish
army which capitulated at Ayacucho, then repaired on board
his Majesty's ship Cambridge, which cast anchor out of
reach 'of cannon-shot from Callao. The Commander, Cap.
taro Maling, afforded every fwility for this negotiation,
and forwarded a note. to the GOvetnor of Callao, explain.
ing the nature-of thepippoiltiotit Abont tin be made to him, and
offering his ship for carrying on the conferences, if Rodil chose
to'send Commissioners- on board. The reply of the Governor
of Callao was a refusal of all mediation : he even expressed a,
doubt of the events of Ayacucho, and added a strong protest that
he would never admit communications, under cover of a flag of
truce, from the enemies of his King. There remains no longer
any hope of a successful issu&, the Cambridge sailed out of the'
harbour, and landed the commissioners at Chorillos. from whence
they returned to Lima. This paper also contains a letter from A-
dmiral Rommel, commander of the French naval force in the Pa-
cific, to the President Bolivar, in whiCh he declares that he had
been placed on that station to protect the commerce of French
subjects, and to ensure respect to the French flag; that he was
instructed to preserve the strictest neutrality between the
belli-
gerent potters, and above all,•to. contradict the rumours circu-
lated by ill-disposed persons, that France entertained, designs
of a hostile nature against those --countries. The Admiral
agrees to recognize any blockade of the edast which shall be an
efficient one.
An extraordinary number 'of the iligos of Buenos Ayres
contains the following convention for an armistice between Ole—
neta and General Sucre. It had received the ratification' of the
former, but not that of the Colombian General.
Art. I. There shall be a suspensiOn Of hostilitien during four
months between the Royal-and liberating armies.
2. During that time the armies shall remain in their present
positions, one to the north, the other to the south, of the De.
guadero. The line of demarcation shall be the same as that
which has hitherto divided the two Viee-Royalties.
3. Colonel Lanza shall occupy the interior of the values, or
towns of Inquisive and their vicinity as far as Palca. If any
of his troops shall have approached as far as Vungas, they shall
retire to the point marked out, leaving the territory subject to
the Government of La Paz, as well
.as those other towns oci
ps

that province, and that of Cochabamba, which were not in his
•
power before the events of Ayaeucho.
4. The district of Tarapaca, which belongs to the province of
Arequipa, shall continue under the orders of the Commander
of the Royal Army.
In order that the territory of the-=,province of Arequipa
may not be dismembered in consequence of the foregoing article,
the district of Apolobaniba, belonging to this province, shall be
incorporated with that of Puno. The undersigned commis-
sioners shall be at liberty to retire with their property and fami-
lies to Belcisa, in order to enable diem to arrange their affairs ;
and the same privilege shall be acceded to anyother inhabitants
of the district.

6. The period of the armistice shall be reckoned from the
date of the ratification by General Antonio Jose Sucre.
7. Should hostilities unfortunately be renewed, the campaign
shall- not recommence without eight days' notice given ;by,
either party.. -
8. The province of Salta is included in the suspension of
hostilities and in the present'airnistice.
• Paz, Jan. 12, 1U25. Signed by the Commissioners,
JOSE MENDIZAB:3I. E BIAS.
ANTONIO DE ELISALDE.
Head-quarters at La Paz,• Jan. 13, 1825. - -
Ratified in all its parts.
PEDRO ANTONIO DE OLANETA.

•
[FROX THE ATLGUS OF BUENOS AYRES; MARCH 5,1'
BUENOS AYRES, FEB, 26.
We have obtained, by an extraordinary chance, the Treaty
between Great Britain and the United Provinces. It is as
follows :
" Be it known, the Treaty of Friendship, Navigation, and
Commerce, having been concluded, in due form, on the 2d of
this month of February,. by Don Manuel Jose Garcia, Pleni-
potentia:y of the United Provinces 'of Rio de le Plata, and Mr.
Woodbine- Parish, Plenipotentiary of his Britannic Majesty,
the following is a true copy of the same :
• " An extensive commerce having existed for many years
between the dominions of his Britannic Mejesty and the United
Peovinces ef,Rio dele Plata, it seems advieeahle, for the safety
and promotion of the said ,commerce, and the consolidation of
good understanding between his Majesty and the said Pro-
vinces, that these existing relations should be formally recog_
nized and confirmed by a treaty of friendship and navigtition.—
. With this view, they have named for their respective Plenipo-
tentiaries,..viz. his Majesty the King of Great Britain, Mr.
W.oodleine Parish, his Majesty's Consul-General at Buenos
-Ayres; and the United Provinces, Don M. 'Jose Garcia, Mi-
nister for Foreign Affairs, &c. who having exchanged their full
passes, have agreed on the following articles:— .
" Art. 1. Stipulates perpetual friendship between the do-
minions and subjects of the two parties. •
" 2. Reciprocal freedom of trade, on the same footing as any
other foreign subjects,
" 3. His Britannic Majesty agrees that in all his dominions
in Europe; and other parts-Qf the worldethe inhabitants of the
United Provinces shall enjoy: the freedom of. trade stipulated
in the preceding articles, to the whole extent that is now per.
mitred, or may be permitted in future, to any other nation.
" 4. No article of the produce or manufacture of either party.
shall be subjected, in the dominions of the other, to higher du-
ties than similar articles from other foreign countries ; nor
shall any prohibition to export or import any articles of. pro-
duce or manufacthre, from or into the respective dominions,
be imposed, unlesssuch prohibition include the- same articles
of other countries.
. " 5. Vessels of above 120 tons of either party shall not pay
•
in any of the ports of the other party, higher than the national '
vessels of the country to which the port belongs.
• " 6. Articles of the produce or manufacture of either party
shall pay the same import duties in the ports of the other, whe-
ther they are imported in the ships of Great Britain or of the
United Provinces; and the same bounties, allowances, and
drawbacks shall be paiet on the exportation of such articles of
produce or manufatture from tither country, whether exported
in British ships or those of the United Provinces.
" 7. To prevent misunderstandings, it is stipulated that all
ships built in his Majesty's dominions, which are owned, man.
ned, and registered according to the laws of Great Britain, shall
he considered as British ships; and that all,vessels built in the
territories of the said provinces, duly registered, owned by citi-
zens of the same provinces, or of airy one of them, whose Cap-
taih and three-fourths of the crew are citizens of the said pro-
vinces, shall be considered as vessels of the United Provinces.
" 8. Every merchant; commander of a ship, and other sub-
jects of hit Britannic Majesty, shall enjoy in all the territories
'of the United Provinces, the same liberty as the natives to ma-
, nage his own affairs, te confide them to whomever he pleases
as his factor, agent, or interpreter, without being obliged to
employ or pay for that purpose any personi whatever, unless
he thinks fit to employ them; the buyer and seller to have at
all times full liberty to contract and fix at their pleasure the
price of all effects, merchandise, &c. imported into or exported
from the said United Provinces. •
" 9. In all points relative to the unloading of vessels, the
security of merchandise and effects, thedispoeal of property of
'every description by sale, tlonation, exchange, or Other mode
whatsoever, as-well as -to the administration, of justice, the
subjects of the contracting.parties shall enjoy respectively in the
dominions of each other the same rightseprivileges, anff frane
chises, as those of the most favoured nations. They shall not
pay higher duties in taxes than the subjects of the state ht Which
they reside; they shall be exempt from all military 'service
whatever, either by sea or land, from all forced loans, exactions,
or military requisition ; nor shall they be obliged to pay any
ordinary contributions under any pretext, greater than the na-
tural subjects and citizens of the other party.
" 10. Each of the parles may appoint Co isuls as usual, who
shall not exercise their functions tilt duly approved by the Go-
vernment to which they are sent, and either party may except
to the residence of COnsuls in such particular places as it may
please to except.
" 11. Foe the greater security of cumenerce between the sub-
,jects of the contracting parties, it is stipulated that in case of
any unfortunate interruption of the amicable relations of com-
therce, cr a breach between the two parties, the subjects and
citizens of each residing in the dominions of the other shall
have the privilege. of remaining and continuing their trade,
without any interruption, so long as they behave peaceably,
and do not in any way olehd the laws; and their effects and
property, whether confided to individuals or to the state, shall
not be subject to embargo or sequestration.
12. The subjects of his Britannic Majesty, residing in the
United Provinces of Rio de la Plata, shall not be disturbed,
persecuted, or molested on account of their religion, but they
shall enjoy a perfect liberty of conscience in them, celebrating
divine worship in their own houses, or in their own particular
chinehes or chapels which they shall be authorized to build
and maintain in convenient situetiens, which shall beapprovcd
of by the Government of the se id United Provinces ; it shill
also be permitted to bury the subjects of his Britannic Majesty,
who shall die in the country of. the United Provinces, in their
own cemeteries, which they may in like manner form and main-
tain there. On-the other hand, the subjects of 'die said United
Provinces shall enjoy in all the dominions of his Britannic 31a.
jesty, a perfect and unlimited freedom of conscience, and the
exercise of their religion, public or private, in the houses where
they reside,- or io the chapels and religious houses destined for
that purpose, conformably to the system of toleration establish-
ed in his Majesty's dominions.
" 13. The subjects of his Britannic Majesty residing in the
United Provinces may freely dispose of their property of every
description'in whatever form they please, or by will, as they
think fit; -and if a 'British' subject should die in the United
Provinces without .a will or disposition of his property, his
Majesty's Consul-General, or, in his absence, his represents:.
tive, shall be authorised to appoint guardians, who shall take
care of the property for the lawful heirs- anel creditors, with..
tohue,
Diaa:nni
od.ynt
esTter traffic.
netin Buenos-Ayres,
o.bnu interference,oyevnewosthr..eeArage:oyi giving' notice to the. Authorities of the
country, and reciprocally.
" 14. His Britannic Majesty, anxiously desiring the abolition
of the slave 'trade, the United Provinces of Rio de la Plata en-
gage to co-operate with his Majesty in accomplishing so bene-
ficial a work ;'and to prohibit all persons residing in the United
Provinces, or subject to
rt
fhesstelh:i
areljhlsuear ibi2tesiddprioac,ftet
Fnofiineepb n
:tienananrtt
yhidae:t mienes othr
ratification
yfieecaa rt effectual
ionf
manner, and by the most solemn laws, from taking any part in
exchanged in. 4 months, or sooner, if possible.
here-
unto set their hands and seals.
our Lord 1825,

(L. S.)
(L. S.)

" M. J. GARCIA.
"WOODBINE PARISH."

•••-•
•" We, Juan Gregorio de las Heras, Captain-General and
Governor of the Province of Buenos-Ayres, charged with the
supreme executive power of the United Provinces of Rio de la
Plata, now assembled in Congress, having, in conformity with
the fundamental law of the 23d January, 1823, communicated
the said treaty to the Constituent Congress for its assent, and
having obtained its full powers and approbation to ratify and
confinn•the said treaty, by this present Act we ratify and con-
firm it in due form, promising and engag.ing, in the name of
the said United Provinces, that all the stipulations and obliga-
tions in the same shall be sacredly and inviolably fulfilled.
" In testimony whereof, we sign with our hand the present
instrument of ratification, and have caused it to be attested
by our .31inister of War and Marine, solemnly sealing it
with the national seal at Buenos Ayres, the 19th of February,
10 die year of our Lord 1825. •
" JUAN GitEGORIO DE LAS HEMS.
" FRANCISCO DE LA CRUZ."

PARLEAIIENTARY PROCEEDINGS.

lIOCSE OF COMMONS.
Jovis," 5° die Maii, 1825.

MESSAGE from the LORDS—That they have agreed to.--
the Rotherhithe Dock Bill, without amendment.
ROADS—Berwick and Morpeth—Report of Mr. Telford to the
Treasury presented—to lie on the table. Ross.shire—Peti.
tion front Train, in favour—to lie on the table. Fulham and
Kensington, and I-I aslingden—Bills reported, to be ingrossed,
Bawtry and Sheffield—Bill read a third time, and passed.
Leeds and Whitehall—Petitions from Leeds and Rochdale,
in favour; and from Gontersal,
.against—to lie on the table.
COMPANlEs—British Gas 'Light—Edinburgh Gas Light Com'
pany, against—referred to the Committee on the Bill, Court-.
sel ordered. Western Ship Canal—Petitions from North'
bury, &c.. Broadway and l)onyatt, and North .Petherton, iii
• favour—to lie on the table.
CHURCH—Chelsea—Bill reported, to be ingrogsed.
CANAL—Gloucester and Berkeley—Bill reportedi-Report tD
lie on. the table.
IMPROVEMENTS—Godahning—Petition of Inhabitants of;
against—referred to the Committee on the Bill, Counsel or-
dered. Newbury—Bill read a third time, and passed.
COUNTY COURTS. BlLL—Petition .of C. Short, Esq. Clerk
of the Rules and Orders of. the Court of King's Bench, for
compensation —to lie on the table.
CORN , LAWS—Four Petitions againit any alteration therein,
anti Two for a revision thereof—to lie on the table.
COMBINATION Laws—Five Petitions concerning—referred t°,
the Select Committee.
BEER DUTlES—Thirteen Petitions for the repeal thereof—"
to lie on the -table.
ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAlms—Three Petitions, against, and
One, in favour—to lie on the table.
COUNTY RATES—Petition from Herefordshire, for an equa.
lization thereof—referred to the Select Committee.
CATTLE ILL-TREATMENT ACT—Petition from WestmitV
ater, for an extension thereof-to lie on the table.
DISSENTERS Matt RIAGES —Bill read a third time and passol•
Tnitowx SILK Aci. REPEAL-43111 read a second. time.
COTTON MILLS REGULATION-,-BilI" to make further pro:
visions fbr the regulation of Cotton Mills and Factories, and
for the better preservation of' the health of young persons
employed therein," read a first- time, to be read a szeorla
time on Friday next, and to be printed.
SPECIAL JURIES (Ireland)—Bill "tor the amendment of the
, Laws with respect to Special Juriei and Trials In Ireland,
read a first time, to be read•a second time on Thursday next,
and to be printed.
LEASING MAKING (Scotland)Bill "for restricting the
„ nishment of Leasing.making, Sedition, and-Blasphemy, in
Scotland," read a first time, to be read a second tune ou
Monday next, and to be printed.
A LIME N T oriParsoNE tts (Scotland)—Bill "to amend an Act
of the Scottish Parliament, relative to the AliMent of poor
Prisoners," read a first time, to be read isecorid time on
Monday next, and to be printe&
WAREHOUSED "to permit, for a limited time•
the entry for home consumption of Warehoused Corn and
Wheaten Flour, upon the payment of certain Duties, and
to alter the Duty on Wheat, the produce of the British) Co."
• lonics in North America," read a first time.
LEVANT COMPANY—BiII tend a first time.

ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR THIS DAY.
I. Spring Guns Bill—Second reading.
2. Gardens Protection Bill—Second reading.
3. Judicature (Scotland) Bill—Committee.
4. Customs Laws Repeal B ill—Further consideration of Report.'
5. Customs Management Bill—Further-consideration of .130"
port.
G. Navigation Laws Bill—Further consideration of Report-
7. Custpms Regulation Rill—Further consideration of RePort'
8. Smuggling Prevention Bill—Further consideration of Re'
port.
9. Goods Warehousing Bill—Further consideration of Report.
10. Isle of Man Trade Bill—Further consideration of Report.
11. Stealing in Mines Bill—Second reading.
12. Roman Catholic Relief Bill—Committee.
13. Elective Franchise (Ireland) Bill—,Committee.
14. Transports in the Colonies Bill—Second reading.
15. Colonial Intercourse Bill—Further consideration of Repot'
10. Canada Tenures Bill—Second reading.
17. Distillery Bill—Committee.
18. Pirates Head Money Bill—Committee.
19. Salmon Fishery Bill—Further consideration of Report.
20. Lunacy Travtrse Bill—Second reading.
21. Supply—Committee.
22. Settlement of the Poor Bill—
port. Further consideration of Re.
23. Ways and Means—Committee.
24. Bankers (Ireland) Bill—Further consideration of Report-
-25. ChanCery Court (Ireland) Bill—Report.
26. Thrown Silk Act Repeal Bill—Committee, ,
27. Isle of Man Acts—Report thereupon.
28. Sealing of 'Writs (Ireland) Bill—Second reading.
29. Warehoused Corn Bill—Second reading.
30. Levant Company Bill—Second reading. -

•
NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THIS DA Y. ,o
1. Mr. Grattan-;-.Motion for Copy of Address from Parishiords;
of St. Andrew's Parish (Dublin) to the Lora Liellten7
respecting the Muse ValUation Bill.
2. Mr. Dawson—Select Committee, to inquire into the opt:
tion of the Acts which regulate the conveyance of Bircsß"
NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY.
•
Monday, May 9.
Sir George Hill—Select Committee on the Laws respect -
the Butter 'Trade of Ireland.

Tuesday, May 10.
gal
Mr. Moncit—Bill to prohibit, in certain cases, the Pa
of any part or portion of the wages of Labourers Put
the Poor Rates.

Tueaday, May 17. tut
The Lord Advocate of Scotland—Bill to extend to Scotlll-a
part of the provisiona of an Act (43 Geo. 3, c. V] (JO
Ellenborough's Act).

Thursday. May 26.
Mr. Edmond Wodehouse—Motion for obtaining further
formation respecting the prices of Foreign Corp, throw
the medium of His Majesty's Consuls abroad.

PRIVATE BILL.
Second Reading for This Day.
Doncaster and Thorne Road.

LoNbox socii:TY FOR PROMOTING Cligh"„ .°
TIANITY AMONGST THE JEWS.—This morning a
M on . -,-11:104
'
reus and respectable eeting, the majority of which ea.n..
of Ladies, took place at the Freemasons' Tavern Great 4:21•!e -T.
street, Lincoln's-inn-fields, in support of thisSociety..sir
BARING in the Chair, supported by Lord Bexley, Lord 11°°,
savage, Lord Gambier, 8,-;c. The report was read by the 6ec
tary, and represented it to be in a flourishing condition. „,,,ei.
ing the past year Missionaries have been sent to distant put,
to accomplish the object of the Society, and religious
have been circulated amongst the Jews. Seminaries have no.
established in various parts with proper tutors, and several ',di
stances of conversion has taken place. The report met v"
considerable applause, and several gentlemen addressed Lhe
meeting. A number of persons were at the doors distributlPP
religious tracts.

LONDON FEMALE PENITENT/ART.—yesteratif
the annual meeting of. the London Female Penitentiary sill
held at the Crown and Anchor, in the Strand. The oblecfbro
this excellent institution is to afford a temporary asylum to °nog
tunate females, and
.to give them the means of again beconthso
useful and industrious members of society. The instituti° of
existed for some years at-Pentonville, and has been the occasio_Uio
rescuing from misery and depravity many a wretched feT7ite
who otherwise might have perished in an hospital or 4.4.:b le,
streets. The meeting, though "not numerous, was respecT
and consisted principally of females. Soon after tvielve o'eoft,e
Sir George Rose haying been called to the chair, explairgdpel•
object of the meeting in a short and impressive speech:iv
latt,Esq.Secretary, then proceeded to read the report,
tailed a number of interestingcases in which the institution
ad
afforded successful-relief. Mr. Harkey, the treasurer, went lea
a statement of the receipts and expenditure of the initituti
from which it appeared that, in consequence of the nut9bert. by
applications last year, the expenditure exceedel the receipt'
about 200/. The Rev. David Ruel, in moving that the rei:ogt
adopted, said that of all insetutions none was more intereniu
none more calculated to promote the cause of morals en" this
,
manity than this. It was a remarkable fact, that the
_his
against which it was directed existed to a greater extent t.,
Metropolis than in any other. Their exertionsshould be Pri.7at,
tioned to its magnitude ; and he trusted that the result of the
day's meeting would shew that they were not insensible to the
wretchedness and degradation of their fellow-creatures.
Rev. Gentleman, in a very impressive manner, alluded to
vidual cases in which the institution had been productive o.ich
best effects. The Rev. J. Garratt, seconded the motion, w°, to
.was unanimously agreed to. Sir G. Rose, having occas:o4o,
attend another meeting in the city, left the chair about
past one, and was succeeded in it by Mr. Hankey. ,
ing broke up at an early hour, and a collection was made
doprs. .