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it tl4erafore was the duty of the Noble Viscount to bring

ward diig ,weasure..
The Bishop tof EXETER, for the reasons stated by the
N'obl't Earl, begged kaye to withdraw his amendment.
Fluke of WELLINGTON wished to remind the
Noble Vise +Ye that many of the persons who bad petitioned
their Lordships upaNt I<lris subject were desirous of being heard
by Counsel against its prtilisions.
iii:49tint MELBOURNE was understood to say that the
usual fiii,Rlt',4r hearing- Counsel was before the second yeadin g,
but it was ooniptlent for their. Lordships to hear Couvs.el at
any time. With rekittCtt to the time of bringing forwara the
Bill, he begged to say that the delay bad been solely oofa-
sinned by his illness, which prevented him from bringing It

forward.
th=e Marquis of BUTE was understood to object to that
part Of tqle Oilt which went to deprive the Professors of their
patronage,
The Marqnil BREADALBANE assured the Right
Reverend Prelate that ke mistook greatly the feclino of the
rople of Scotland, if he supposeo that they •
did not wish that
every rA".94 existing in the Universities of Scotland should bo
uprooted.
After a few words from the Marquis of BREAD ALBANg
mnd the Bishop of EXETER in explanation,
Tn. Duke of BUCCLEUCH said that this was not a
question of politics nor of party. The only question before
them was, how Owy could most effectually remedy the incon-
veniences which existed in those Universities, and remove
thole abuses which might impair their efficiency.
The amendment was then withdrawn, and the Bill went
through the Committee, pro forma.
TITHES COMMUTATION BILL.
This Bill having been brought up from the Commons, on
the motion of Viscount MELBOURNE, it was read a first
time, and ordered to be printed. The Noble Viscount then
gave notice that the second reading would be moved by his
Noble Friend, the Marquis of Lansdowne, on Thursday
se'nnight.

CHURCH DISCIPLINE BILL.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, in moving the second
reading of the Church Discipline Bill, for many years the
only mode which had existed for enforcing discipline among
the clergy, had been by the very feeble, expensive, and on'
satisfactory proceedings in the Ecclesiastical Courts. Thar
circumstance alone made it expedient to adopt some alters
lion in the law ; but this had become still more necesary, .
asmuch as their Lordships had read, a second time, a Bill
for the purpose of consolidating the Ecclesiastical Courts,
and for taking away from the Diocesan Courts that Prig-
diction which they had hitherto possessed, for enforcing
Church discipline. The question, then, was—What tribu-
nal should have jurisdiction by which discipline might
be effectually enforced against individual members of the
Church ? There were two ways in which that object
might be attained. They might vest it altogether in the
hands of the Bishop, which in former times was an authority
exercised by him ; or they might establish another tribunal
which should give the parties accused that security which was
possessed by other members of the State, of being tried by
those who were their equals in rank and profession, and who
were therefore interested in the administration of justice to-
wards the accused. He was satisfied that their Lordships
would feel, and he hoped that the Right Rev. Bench would
also feel, that it was not expedient to repose the power alto-
gether in the hands of the bishop : because, however well
it
might be exercised, it was not congenial with the other estab-
lishments of the country to vest such power aid influence
in the hands of an individual. For these reasons it had
been considered that the most effectual way to enforce the
due discipline of the Church, and at the same time to se-
cure the accused against any improper judgment being
pronounced against him, would be to appoint under the
superintendence of the bishop a tribunal, consisting of a cer-
tain number of their own body—namely, nine clergymen, and
providing that no sentence should be passed unless with the
concurrence of six out of the nine. He thought this would be
an effectual tribunal for the redressing of offences, and one
also to which the clergy could look up to with confidence-
The rest of the Bill was for the purpose of carrying that olr
ject into effect, and if their Lordships should approve of the
principle of the Bill, which was to establish a tribunal in each
diocese such as he had described, the details might be consi-
dered in Committee. It was further proposed to give a povie!"
of appeal to the Archbishop of the Province. The Noble Oct
Learned Lord concluded by moving that the Bill be now read
a second time.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY hoped that their
Lordships would agree to the second reading of the Bill, the
principle of which had just been explained. This was a sub-
ject on which legislation was peculiarly required.—( Hear.)
It was a Bill of great importance to the country, and he trusted
that the Noble Lords learned in the law would lend their as-
sistance and abilities that it might be made such as the country
required at their hands, and such as would tend to increase the
efficiency of the Church and keep up the character of its nu'
nisters.
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be
committed on Monday.
Adjourned till Thursday.