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ject. In his opinion nothing would be More injudicious
than to give rounds for future applications to Parliament,
deh•aying debts which might hereafter be incurred by
the grown, in consequence of an allowance too limited to
satisfy the claims and necesbities incidental to Royalty.
He therefore most cotdially assented to the proposal of the
Noble LoH) ts'oeing founded in justice and sanctioned by
son n 4.
Mr. HUME thought that the present condition ef The
country required more reductions that Mitlsters had
hitherto made, and for that rn.ase.n Would still abide by the ,
opinion which he hart alrvady expressed. however, look
ing to the thin state of the House, he thanld crntent him-
sal- with protesting against the tottrne-, in this instance,
Tamed by the !Coble Lord% Without pressing for a division,
The original resohltion was accordingly agreed to,
In a short conversation which ensued relative to a verbal
amendment in a subsequent resolntic'n,
Mr. HUME took t4.e 'Opportunity to suggest that the
allowance to the several branches of the Royal Family
ought to undergo some reduction in common with all other
pv.hlk salaries, in consideration of the comparative cheat',
nets of provisions since theze allowances ht.'d bee origi-
nally granted. Such a diminutiot might tVith the greater
propriety he proposed, as the in.'Wnt members of the Royal
Family enjoyed t'he herreil. of survivorship, for it was pro-
vided, that at the 'death of one Prince of the Blood his
allowance theeld be so apportioned as considerably to in-
creme the incomes of the others. If, therefore, no pm-
position of the nature he recommended ehould emanate
from Government, he should feel it his duty, on the bring-
ing up of the repot t, when the House resumed, to give
notice of his intention, at an early day, to move an ithcnti-
moot to that tifect.

520,000/. for the Civil Liztt 'expenses of his Majesty
was the next vote,

Mr. GOB:' By proposed that the sum be increased
to ,P.,..3'3,600/., thereby leaving a surplus of 20,0004 for
such contingent expenses as might be incurrtd during the
year, and which Parliament could not then anticipate.
The actual expense was, at present, 510,000e1. i and lit
thought that 10,0001. was not a sufteient surplus to be
plo.ced at the disposal of the King, the dignity of the
Crown, and the conrthience of Parliament being taken
into consideration.

Mn O'CONNELL could not subscribe to the clutttine
of the P.ight Hon. Gentleman. He thot!ght; that Parlia•
ment could not be too wary its plai!ing surplus sums over
the actual expenditure in the hands of any Minister, and
should therefore propose, as an amendment on the Right
Mott Gentleman's proposition, that the sum be reduced
to 510,0001. Even this sum would leave a surplus to
meet extraordinary contingencist 3 for the actual estimate
was but 498,0001.
The CHANCULOR of the EXCHEQUER would
leave the matter in the hands of the Committee, though
his own feelings were in favour of the larger surplus.
After a few words from Mr. HUME, in favour of Mr.
O'Connell's amendment, the Committee divided—
For Mr. P'OiNlikr..r.'s amendment to reduce the esti-
mate Lei 510,000/ 10—Against it, 44—Majority in favour,
We presume, of Mr. GOULBURN'S motion to increase the
surplus to 20,000/.-34.
On our re-admission to the Gallery we found
Mr. HUME moving as an amendment on the vote of
123,0001. for his Majesty's household expenses, that it be
minted to 11n,344/.
The amendment was negatived without a division, and

the original resolution agreed to.
The Bill, with its amendments, WAS then ordered to be
reported. The House resumed, and the report was ordered
to be received to-morrow,

Mr. HUMS asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
whether he Intended to refer the other charges on the
Civil List to the Consideration of a Select Committee.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, if we
heard him correctly, said that it was not his intention so
to refer them at present. If, when he proposed to refer
these charges to a Committee of the whole House, any
gentleman should propose to refer them to the considera-
tion of a Select Committee, he should be prepared to
state more fully the intentions of his :Majesty's Govern-
ment, and their reasons for entertaining them.
INIr. HUME then gave notice that he should on a future
day move that these charges be referred to the considera-
tion of a Select Committee.
JEWISH EMANCIPATION.

Mr. GOULBURN wished to know whether his Right
Hon. Friend opposite intended to proceed with his mo-
tion regarding the Jews, which stood for discussion on
Thursday evening.
Mr. IL GRANT, though he retained his former opi-
n'ons and intentions on this subject, was inclined to post-
pone bringing forward his motion till after the settlement
of the Reform Bill, as be did not wish to add any fresh
cause of excitement to the public mind. The conduct of
those most materially interested in the success of his mo-
tion was most proper in leaving their claims to the dis-
cretion of the House, and Pot wishing to obstruct tide pro-
gress of another great question by obtruding them at pre-
sent upon its notice.
On the motion of Mr. LITTLETON, the report on the
Money Payment Acts Repeal Bill was further considered.
The amendments were agreed to, the Bill was ordered to
be read a third time this day se'nnight, and then engrossed.
On the motion of Mr. LITTLETON, the Money Pay-
ment of Wages Bill was re-committed. On the House re-
' solving itself into a Committee,
Mr. HUNIF, held the principle of this Bill to be errone-
ous. He would not therefore discuss its clauses, but
move that the Chairman do now leave the chair.
Sir II BATESON inquired whether this Bill was in-
tended to extend to Ireland?

Mr. LITTLETON replied that it did not ; but he
should have no objection to extend its provisions to that
country.
Sir 11. BATESON contended that it was important
that the provisions of the 1.1.111 should extend to Ireland.
Mr. LITTLETON begged to observe, in explanation,
that the title of the Bill contained the words " to certain

parts of Great Britain ;" and that he was therefore afraid
dist it could not be extended to Ireland. B another fill,

however, the enactments of the measure miitithe extended
to Ire:and.

Mr. WARBURTON would not now go into the dis-
cussion of the merits of this Bill, to which he had before
expressed his decided opposition. He was glad, however,
to find that the Bill had been so materially altered from
the form in whith It had originally been laid before them.

Ile felt it the more unnecessary to discuss the measure,
in his opinion, it would be found totally inoperative, even
if it should he passed into a law.
Mr. WESTERN said, that however be might appre-

ciate the motives of the Ron. :Member for Staffordshire
in bringing forward this Bill, yet, believing the principle
of it to he so pernicious, he must decidedly oppose it. It
was impossible to tell how far such a principle might he
carried, or what extent of mischief might result from the
adoption of such a principle. He believed the house had
never interfered between the master and the man, except
to the detriment of the latter.
Mr. TENNANT was opposed to the Bill, and thought
that the only effect of it would be to prevent the poor man
obtaining the best market he could for the only thing he
had to sell, natnely, his labour. It was not always that
laws which originated in good motives were the best laws,
or the laws most calculated to effect the object towards
which they were directed. Thus the usury laws were
intended to benefit the borrowers of money ; but they
were in effect most disadvantageous to the borrowers, as
many of t' e gentlemen he was now addressing might have
experienced.—(A laugh.)—According to the definition of
" wages" in this Bill, the clauses of the Bill would not
touch any contract which was partly in money and partly
in goods. •
Mr. MORRISON believed that the Bill would be
found in practice an interference between master and man,
which was never advisable, without the possibi!ity of
effecting that which was the professed object of the inter-
ference. If, however, the Bill did operate at all, he was

sure that it would do the labourers no good, and that it
was very likely to do them much harm. In some parts
of the country it would throw hundreds out of employment.
Mr. W. WHITMORE said, that if he thought that

the bargains in question were matters of pure competition
between the masters and the labourers, he should agree
with the Hon. Member for Middlesex and the other Mem-
bers opposite; but as he considered the truck system to
be a system of positive compulsion upon the labourers, he
believed that that would be a wholesome and beneficial
law which should make all such contracts to be carried
into effect by means of money. Under this system, the
man who was employed by the truck-master constantly,
became in debt with the shop, and then it was impossible
for him to leave that particular employment. Being in
the master's debt, the man was altogether in the master's
power. None of the gentlemen opposite had ventured to
say that the truck system was one which it would be ad-
Le countrysai:l
ut
that the
general system,
allow generally ; but then if it were not a good
tw.Atillarr.
~ . districts
why should it he allowed to prevail in par-
(oll4'tTCOctßNNofEtl.ll . best feature in this
Bill was, that it would be
quite opposed to a measure whichywiennotperi aktiv,eii. H e was
interfere with the freedom of labour. The ttinCkliii.slit.eto
was the result and the proof of the etisterie'Of'pervY ermty
and distress in the country ; end this
was nit-the way to