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PAROCKAL SCHOOLS,

Lord HOLLAND then rose to move the second
reading of this Bill. lie should not now enter into
any detail of the merits of the Bill; he. could see
no objeetion- to its principle; and however • several
Noble Lords might differ as to the means of ac•
compliShing the obje6i, all seemed to be agreed that
the accomplishment of it was extremely desirous.
Lord HAIPKIESBURY ware among those who
l)a.:1 considerable objedium, not only to the pro-
visions but the principle of the Bill, though he was
ready to confess that the measure was one well
, worthy the serious attention' and mature considera-
tion of Parliament ; under every circumstance of the
mernent, however, he must obje6t to its further
progress ; the preanible of the Bill he could not
admit, and never would allow'that the lower classes
of the people in Scotland were better educated, or
better founded in the principles of virtue and mora-
lity than were the corresponding classes of society in
this part of the United Kingdom. • Even while he
allowed that the principle.of a measure like the pre-
sent was desirable, and right perhaps to beetled on,
yet as the-means proposed by the Bill were wholly
inadequate to its attainment, and there was not by
tiny means sufficient time to consider and mature
so comprehensive • a scheme, he should now move
that .the Bill be read a :second time this day three
worths.
Lard HOLL/IND.observed that this was one of
the measures which had been dropped at, the close,
of the last Session, with a recommendation that it
should be renewed, and renewed .with ettea during
the present Session ; ',yet new it was said there
was not time to entertain it, and the recomiuenda-
tion, as ie. other respetts went for nothing. And
whence arose. all those violations of engagement and
disappointment of the hopes of
.the country, but'
front the hat' dissolution, which, however, it was
cqntended, had net been eroduaive of any serious
iotemption to the public business. •
Lord ItEDESDALE opposed the Bill, as not.
arming the Mioist'er in each parish with a sufficient
i'legree of coetroul over the regulations to be adopt-
ed, hilt leaving the whole to be decided upon by a
make ity of the inhabitants of each parish, by the
Churchwardens. Overseers, &c. This mode of pro-
ceeding .vorild be attended with the worst possible
elt;:e'l in the Northern Cennties, where the poor
"Were not provided tar as in the other Counties of
Ene,land. Besides,, hew must it not obstruct the,
Order and permanency of many private seminaries
of education endowed by, private donations ? If it
was thought expedient by the majority of any
parr,:,, might they not alter the Whole tenor of such
estabtishments, aid new model them according to
their own notions, and the lights aed authority they
should derive front the Bill. Almost all of its pro
visions were iiicely to be productive 'of much prac-
tical mischief, it' the Bill passed la its present shape,
without the least probability of its being attended
with any new bietetit. Viewing the, Lill" in this
light, he must agree with the Noble ,Secretary
of State, who Moved that the consideration of it
be pestponed.
Lord ROLLAND, in explanation, read several
ClAtsin of the Bill, to prove that the 'Noble and
14ailleCi Lord who spoke last, had ruisrepresentM
it ; for these Clauses made it clear, that in no in-
stance were the parishes to ad without the advice
and contreul of the Minister, or those under him,

Lord REntisoALE ex.piaMetl, in order to chew that
be had not misrepresented the Bill,
The,LORD CHANCELLOR opposed the Bill.
in its 'present shape, though be .vas by no ttieuus un-
friendly to the `principle of diffusing instruation'as
generally and as widely as possible. kle: was fully
sensible of the benefits arising from the system of
Oucation in Scotland, and as he hitusAf was one
of the-borderers on that part of the country, he
felt 'himself indebted to that system for the benefit
of his MIT edueatiOn ;--still, he could nut approve
of the present - Bili, bemuse ,it was trii,erably de-
ficient in the means of the great ob-
jkit which it scented to have in vietv. Besides, it
tended to a departdre from the principle of
ittstrudion in this country, by taking it' in a great
measuro out of the superiiitendance and controul
the Clergy. Nor were these his only objeetions
—in tit, hatet-n- shape any Bill of the kind 'night ap-
prar, he never would agree to any, that left matters
bf this nature to be judged of and decided, by the
majority of theinhabitauts of .To what
contn..a.iii might not such a toOde ut dtxision open a
door.—Wonld it not give rise to all the Mis-cliivis of
at; the majority et the inhabitants
ef hatever description of people
they lo Oct composed,--What eudtess.
!- t 4 there out been nut long since; ..I1
in the; Siection of a Minister tor the
Pari,i; ut ti.::: nweil ; ,'.teed has nut that conten-
tion ia.. ;ven y' at the liar of thii House !
hati ~() it, r 1,, -'t to the clans,z, ‘‘.l)iett gave
to the Coo:: of by the (lei-oat ut tht.r. money
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to a certain extetit. His enquiries had already em-
braced a large distriEt, and fur the sati'sfa6tion of the
Hotise ho could affirm, that the-advantages of edu-

cation were extended more generally than it appear?
ed to be thought, and he would venture to say, that
in the-parish alone,in which he resided, these advan,
tages extended to no' less a number than 4000.—,.
Perhaps, when his, plan was more matured, he
should have the honour .of submitting it to their

Lordships. in the mean time, he most agree with
the Noble and Learned Lords who preceded, and
who truly observed, that the provisions of the Bill
lett jittle or no mitring to the Minister in his Parish.

This would go to subvert the first principles of
education in this country, which had billion° been,
And he trusted would continuo to be under.the con-

trout and auspices of the establishment, and. their
Lordships would feel how dangerous it might be to
innovate in such matters. Their Lordships' pru-
dence would, no doubt, guard against innovations
that might shake the foundation of our religion,
and It would be a chief objekl of their vigilance and
care.

U t cast rnaneant in Religione Nepotcs.

Lord STANHOPE could not altogether agree
either with the Learned Lords or with the Right
Rev. Prelate who preceded him. They seeped to
appear to have no idea of any education that was not
linked to a particular religion. Now the first ele-
ments of useful education, with which he wished
the poor to be instruded in, was reading, waiting,
and arithmetic. These were the foundations of
useful knowledge in a commercial country like our's ;
nor did• they involve any necessary connection with
Church Establishment, which it was yerr natural
for the Right Rev. Prelate to be anxious about. As
to the Court of Chancery, the, Noble and Learned
Lord on the Woolsack had given axery just idea of it.
He himself had a case in that Court, which lasted
only forty-two years ; he heard of one that had last-
ed four hundred.

The question was then put on the second reading
of the Bill, which was negatived; and the motion
that it be read a second time this day three months,
was agreed to.

IRISFI ARMS BILL.
The Order of the Day was then read the House
to resolve itself into a Comtnittee upon thisßill, and
the Chairman accordingly took the Chair; which
being obserYed by
Lord HOLLAND.--His Lordship said that he
had sonic observations to make on the principle of
the Bill, but not having noticed that the House had
gone into the Committee, he should now move that
the Chairman do leave the Chair, that he might be
more regular in delivering his sentimetits upon it.
He bad often lamented that when measures of this
delicate and important nature were brought before
the Flonse, none of his Majesty's Ministers took the
trouble of entering into any explanation of their
tendency, or of the grounds upon which they in-
tended to rest their necessity • of this they now had
furnished a frcsfrexample. iut their conduel, when
examined, must, in the present instance, be found
very strange and unaccountable. Not twenty hours
hour-, ago they dwelt with great warmth and em-
el:iisis upon the necessity of raising the' largest pos-
sible armed force;. that the perils and exigencies of
the moment required it ; and that the population of
the country should be strained as far as possible, in
order to furnish this force.' Yet at the very time
they are urging every nerve to procure this arm-
ed force, they are adopting measures to disarm a'
great portion of the population of the United King-
dom. This he thought most preposterously absurd;
he had given a painful and reluctant assent to ano-
ther Bill 'of this kind (the Insurreeliort ; 'but
this Bill he must oppose in toto. The former was
to be as it were a sword in the scabbard ; not to be.
drawn out but upon an extreme emergency. • The
latter is to be wholly at the will and discretion of.
the Magistrates. He had much rather the Bill had
been male imperative on the Magistrates than op-
tional to register arms, and,grant licences ; for then
the operation of the Bill would extend equally to
all descriptions of persons: but at present, trots a
variety of impressions and prepossessions, it was'
likely to be applied very differently to certain classes
of persons. This he did not say trout any disrespect
to the Magistrates of Ireland; but front a conviction
how men's minds must be affeated nuder the pre-
sent state and Lireurustanceg of that Country. The
only remedy, in his bpinion, against all these
was conciliation and concession ; and then,, instead
of being so distressed for men, you would have more
than sufficient to answer the call of the present exi.,
gent moment. Why net follow the example of
the great Lord Chatham with regard, to Scotland,--,.
That great Statesman did not hesitate, to raise and
arm men in that Country, at the 'moment it war
thought Most ' disaffected. The Noble Lord then
urged the same strain of arguments against the Bill,
which, on a former occasion he had employed •
against the Insurrection Bill, which he looked upon
as congenial ; 'and concluded with moving, that the
Chairman do now leave the Chair.
Lord HAIYICESI3URY did not conceive it , ne-
cessary to preface his motion for committing the,
Bill with any new observations, because the measure
was not a new one, but one which unhappily it had
been tinted aecessary fur some time to keep in force,
and to the principle of 'which the Noble Lord had
assented when he formed a part of the late Admi-
nistration, when that Administration passed the
Gunpowder Act, which was exactly the same in
principle with that of the Bill now before the
House. He could `not consider the case of Scotland
so applicable as the Noble Lord seemed to imagine it
to be. :Lord Chatham undoubtedly raised Regi-
ments in Scotland at the time alluded to, but they
were raised for foreign service, which made the case
ve;sr different trout the present. Neither did the
present measure argue any mistrust of the people of
Ireland, as the Noble Lord appeared to insinuate.---.
Was there not itt Ireland a National Militia ? Was
thew not in Ireland in excellent Yeomanry : the
gre ter portion of which was composed of that par-'
ticular class of persons to wheat the Noble Lord
more particularly alluded ? Yet was there any miser
trust be in confiding arms to their hands
The objeet of the Bill was to keep them out of the
ts of ill-disposed persons, who might be tainted
with niischieous political principles; and the neces-
sity of doing so ha been generally felt and gene-
rally acknowledged. It was under the pressure of
that necessity that 'Government now aCted . in pro-
posing this Bill, and be was at a loss to see by whom
t 4 could be fairly objeCied to.; - , .

LONDON, •
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12, 1807.

A. report was this morning very generally drews
lated, and obtained considerable credit in the higher
Circles, that the Expedition under Admiral GAM..
BIER had completely succeeded; that our Troops
had taken possession of the Island of Zealand,
and that the whole of the Danish Navy, consisting
of 20 Sail of the Line, besides smaller Vessels.
was in our possession. We are unable to contra-
di& or confirm this report, but we can state
positively, that at the time this Paper was put to
Press no official accounts had been received by Go-
vernment.

is morning a Mail from Gottenburgh ar-
rived : the last Letters from that place are dated
the 3d inst. They state that en the Ist. the Eng-
lish Fleet destined for the Baltic was in sight ;
and that an English Officer landed for the purpose
of procuring Pilots for the passage of the Belts, but
`without success. The Fleet then proceeded fpn its
course, and as the wind was fair, there was little
doubt but that it had arrived before Copenhagen at
the time the Letters were written. Marshal BEE-.
NADOTTE had bad an interview with the Prince
Royal of Denmark, at Keil, the result of which wag
not known, but a very considerable French Army.
was in readiness to enter Holstein the ITIODACOI BEE-.
NADOTTE issued, his orders for that purpose. Our
EXpedition, therefore, arrived at the point of its deS-
tination at a most critical juncture, and intelligence
!nay be expected every hour of the success of the
Enterprize.
We have seen some private Letters, which state,
that it was confidently expeaed that the French
Would make an attempt upon the Island of Rugen,
as they had colle&ed upwards of 300 small Vessels :
it is, however, not probable that they will make
such au atte►upt Mita they are in possession of
Stralsund. It is also stated, that the KING Or SWEDEN
has published a Proclamation, couched in very strong
terms. It is addressed to the German Troops serv-
ing in the French Armies, or as Allies of the
French, and calling upon them to vindicate their
honour and their national chara6tcf, by joining
the only German Prince who lies not yet conde-
s"cended to make peace with BONAPARTE.

' A Board of Artillery Officers, of which General
FARRINGDON is at the head, are gone to the coast of
the Southern Distrid, from. Woolwich, for the pur-
pose of determining. un the best triode of defence for
the Martello Towers which have been lately erected.
The first General Meeting is expeCted to be held at
Sandgate to-morrow.
The lateit letters from St Petersburgh speak ge.
nerally with confidence as to the removal of the re-
cent restrictions upon foreign commerce. It is
grated in One of these, ". that things have taken a
more favonrable turn ; and that great hopes are en-
tertained, that the Commercial Treaty with England
will be speedily revived, and atfairs placed upon their
former footing."
The Ship Alert, from Charleston, is arrived at
Liverpool : she sailed on the 14th of July, to which
date she brings letters, the contents of which are
confirmed by the arrival in town of a Gentleman
who came passenger in the same ship. It appears
chat Charleston was in a state of .the greatest alarm
and consternation ; that meetings had been held,
and resolutions of the most violent kind resorted to.
The Commanders of the English Squadron had been
hung up in effigy, and afterwards burnt. The order
for. wearing mourning, by the exhibition of a crape
round the arm; for ten days, had been very rigor-
ously attended to ' • and a Scotsman, in ridicule of
the ceremony, tied a crape round the neck of his
dog. This piece of mockery so enraged the mob,
that they put the poor animal to death, and then
procee.'led to the punishment of its master, whom
they first proposed to tar and feather ; instead of
which, however, they took him to a pump, and
drenched bins till he was nearly dead.
' The Cardinal Yoitx had attained the age of eighty•
two years. He was a quiet, inoffensive man—our
good Kiug allowed him, out of his privy purse, a
handsome pension. His death is of some importance ;
for, we beli'eve, an A& with respe& to Attainder of
Blood was to expire at the death of this last of the
Stuart family.
PERREGEAUX, the celebrated Banker of Paris,
died lately at that place. Considering that he was
.a rich man, -he weathered the Revolutionary storm
very well, and lived to die of a decline, though a
few years ago he was in such great danger of a
sudden death.

The harvest in the Western Counties, and, we
understand, in all parts of the kingdom, promises to
be abundant. beyond preCedent. The wheat in some
places laid by the late heavy rains is clean, and toil
in the ear ; the barley and pease very good; and
the apples in the cider counties aboi,e a lair crop.

PORTSMOUTH, AUG. IL—Arrived last night 'the
following Vessels from Hull, viz. the ProVidence,
Ej)44 Sarah, Hope, Muniqme, Lively, Whim, and
the Margaret, bound to Portugal.
Also„ arrived this day His Ma jesty's Ships Linne
and Sophia from the Downs.
Sailed His Majesty's Ship Raven with a Fleet for
Portugal, having brought to last night.

The outward-bound West-India Fleet remain in
Yarmouth Roads.

PLYMOUTH, AUG. 10.—Arrived the Plantagenet,
of 74 guns, from Portsmouth. The LElus,
Oa-
Mussoer, from Tonningen, bound to St. Thomas's,
laden with linen, &c. detained by the Mars Priva-
teer; and the Sophia Magdalina, MAANCKE, laden
with linen, &c. from Tonningen bound to St.
Thomas's detained by the Lord Cochrane Privateer.
Sailed the Lavinia F:rigate 'on a cruize, and the
Entreprenante Cutter," with a Fleet of Viaualiers
under convoy, for the Squadron cruizing oft
L'Orient.

Sailed the Cresar, IJappg Return, and Busy Pri-
vateers; on a prttize.

DEAL, AUG. 1 I.—His Majesty's Sloop Cannel
sailed this morning to tha Northward • and His
Majesty's Ship Agincourt, and 4ergere Sloop, sailed
this by to the Westward.

SEI EFAINESS, AUG. 11.— An ived the Pandora
Sloop of War, Capt. SPENCE also several Trans-.
ports, from the River,
Arrived the Trompease Sloop of War, Capt. PoP.,
LING, from the North Sea.
Arrived His Majesty's Ship Childers; the Crpizer,
Capt. STODDA&T, sails With convOy I 0 the Baltic
this evening.

DISTRIBUTION OF PRIZE MONEY.
To the Officers and Company of ills Majesty's late 1140
Armed Lugger Phoenix, for the Capture of the ratrioten, on
the loth August, 1794, will be made on the ;ph inst.
No. It, Cecil-street, Strand, and every Tgesd'y utter for
three years.
To' the. Officers and Company pf His Majesty's Sloop
Cruizer, the net produce of the,loll6wWg Captuies•ann Re-
captures:.. lena, 6th Jan; . adj ; litaave, 26th 1an:1847 ;
Leander, -26th an., 1807 ; Guardian, 26th lan. 1807, v.,' it be
made on board, the loth inst, and at No. 2, James-Stri:qt
Adelphi, for three wombs..
To the Officers and company or. Hit Majesty's Ship,
Ethanol', the nett pr.duce of the following Prizes : Fishing.
boats captured 25tO.ittoC, 1803 ; Amphion, ,9th
; iklaj Dolphin, on time 2otlothNoveniber, iSo3; and 1 Meta,
kith Auost, tari4, wilt be made on the 26111 hist. a; Nu. 2
names-street; Afici irs.
Tu the Oiticers anal ut Hi; Majesty's Ship An-
son, part of the proceeds .05 the Spanish Ship La Guaira...
loupe, captured on lite 14th December, IN,* At No,z,J4mirest,
street, Adelptii, on the AOtil rust. ; and fur 'wee years..
To the (Micas and Company of His Maje'sry's Gun-brig
Attack, tor the Ciiptute ur L'Airifibie Gerirrane, Rmi the Olt
ot March, 18z6, and of the Vrirxmit Gabriel, on the zAlt.
April, !Soo, 'will be nude on board tile said Gun-brig un the
12th inst. and for three inoritits, at Nu. 12,, I.! prr .1•11.1111::61•
street. , •

Tuthe'Otfirers and Company of His Majesty's Ship
Critiier, for the Lai,: rJnatina Tiv,i in, on tit.: .2)'q
fUne, nil, Witt 'be paw :)ual Sneaneas, on he arl
/avail' ot. having been paid tile 13,11 01.
bruary, tBo7 j, and every TueshystAt aitOr, net
eleven and three, at No. a, 'arc°
months.
• To the Officers and Company of Fps NfAjc:;ly'S ship
cruiser. tor the Capture of the 1, 'itern:it, Augult,
titoi, the Matte:, Unpei, Ant, and u-illearn' oq'
bnalo at btkethebs, q iltr ar.lval, .114 4:vet, TueAtify mitt
Satutday aft,r, between t-lcveninid Nu. a, tiainnietr
Mott, Xttf4llCa, .or 'hire! niun• .is.

MUltbERS.—On Monday se'enight, in the owl:
day time, tht...e several murders took place in ihe
neighbourhood of Fethard, in Ireemd. Tee jrr-
curtastances were as follow :—After the cuti mg of a
field of rape, near St. Johnsioe n, lour of the pry
who bad been engaged in it, and had got so ii6vhat
inebriated, proceeded to the house one Delany, at.
Knockinglass, against whom they harboured a 114:
vious malice. The party cons..(td of 4 man tiainea
Meehan, the ringleader, two persons oft tie na •
of Dwyer, and one Farrei—arriving at the houses
wbich.Delany, on their approach, had shut, O.);
called him to come out—which, on the assUranFe
safety from one of the Dwyera lie at length clia,
armed with a ,'lane: They immediately kit tia"4
bast and put him to death with the molt savage
brutality. His wife; by whom he has left si)‘ °C
seven children, in endeavouring to save him, %co,
very much mangled by several wounds on the head
ind breasto—Atter the murder the villains retreated,
and stopped for a short tune at a house not far from
the place, in order to wash the wounds of .one of ,
in his own defence, had
them, whom Delany, cut
thewit murderht''e ala
ranne througu Delany',
.In the mean 'timtreientidsle,
ho
a party immediately pursued the murderfrs, and
came up with them on the lands of Clonbrogans
when they instantly dispatched two of them, Moe-
'ban, the principal,. and one of the DWyers ; the
,
other two, for the present, escaped: The WOMOI 5
outcry of
life, we are glad to hear, is not in danger, and she
is removed to a place of safety.
An awful and truly melancholy accident occurred
at Halley, in the Potteries, on Saturuay se'nnight, -
in the evening :—Three of the sons of Mr. Wil-
son, a respectable nianufa&urer in that place, for
their amusement, and as a preparation for celebrat-
ing the wakes the succeeding week, had placed
three pieces of small cannon in the garden of the
elder brother, which they charged with poweer and
.waJding, and disposed at a short distance from each
other; w!:en one of the biuthers was in the a& of
tiring the first piece, the elder, with his. inthnt •
child in his arms, was in the front of the third,
and, dreadful to relate, the primiog communicated
to the others, by which unfortunate event the hither ,
and child were literally blown to pieces, and in a
moment rendered spectacles too shocking for hu-
manity to contemplate, and that in' the presence of
their nearest and dearest ties—a wile, mother, and -
brothers. Their mangled remains, inclosed in the
same coffin, were deposited in the timily vault ea
Wednesday last, in the presence of numerous specta-
tors; and this distressing event Lids cast such a gloom
on the surrounding neighbourhood, as all the hilarity
attendant on the season was not able to dispel.
.Coroner's Inquest was held on Monday before Taos.
SPARROW, Gent, when the Jury, atter a minute to:
ve3tvgat'on into all the causes which led to this
melancholy catastrophe, returned a ve)'lia 9,f,•
dental death.-