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London, England, 1809-02-11 00:00:00

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to ilie' House in the course of ate, hour. : ); .. I
Mt. BRADSILANV observed' ti -t
if lir... r ' IleTtion
did not completely-
.fail hini;Mr 'Donovan . ad been
t
guilty-of the must -puss ?raw ' non. 1 ,was not
'his intention io offer a singlebbiervation, directly or
indireCtly, until the close of the examination. But
if it should prove as he strongly su&etted, he shbuld
-un question ably- triplribr:lll6-663ii mitTarOTIVII-.116:
niyan, - 4-W ivatlyproceiding to comment tin the d :)c-
-trine laid down by an Honourable Ge tietiatuto-.
der the griliiii,,When he was called to order by Mr.
Croker. ,
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, ,
rilte ArrctlktipYrgaktatt,At., stated, that ,he . had '
just received' a' let t.'r froin' Geri eiii\ 'tla'yerfiva Wh'kcli
he read to tie 'noose), and llieli,stated, , that hav-
ing understoodvi that. Mrs. Clarke had introduced his
name in 'her last :examination, he was desirous of
being examined at the Bar of the House that night, '
and tuor.a especially ,tout.hing his hating called.at
Mrs. Clarke's house, as his replies would go directly
to impeach that Lt dy's li6'Reit)i,
Mr. W. gNI ri H observed, that if it were intended
to commit My. Donovan,., for having uttered gross
falsehoods, the. 631110 proceeding. must cerra•nly take
place with any other. witnesses, 'Who, by ill@ con.,
duet, placed themselves' in the same: preilkinients:
If it *could 'be p'roi'Ld that ' Mrs. Olat ke....haiilleen
guilty of such gross broaclieo. of Keracity, as Mr.
Duhovan seemed to have been, he was at a fuss to
know where finy person could be ,fbntAtlibri::Woold
• oppOsp hervonunittnent. If the asser(!on' of tGetie7
ral Claveritig Ikere to be' weighed' hgttitAt the 'as-
sertion'of Mrs. Clarke, no one Cuidd dnubi'.whicli.
. must kick the beaux in the estimation of the Corn,.
naittee; but still the Connittee'vtiiuld perciv,i,i
that there Was a difference befvkeill Cunvittiwi' 'a'
person of probable'falsehood by producing the tes-
timony of another, and conviaing*pparson of ab-
isolute falsehood by the productionuot: his own tes-
' timony,
The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHECHJER again stated
the inconvenience which must iel:tiiii from the iu,..
dulgence.by,the -lon. Gentleman ia• general obser-
vations. The remarks of the Hun. Gentleman were
by no means called for by what load been stated .by
his ',earned Friend.

• Mr, 4.imm recnii.mended.a dispassionate.eondua,
on the pi tot the Committee. it,wasitatural,' that:.
in a popular assembly a great diversity of opinionS'
should etcist, awl that thnie
maintained with a heat not always di!ti.:Orous or dig-
nified. tt was most desirable that this ardopr should
be repressed on this important' queso6n; and that
'the patient examination of the subjea, which.lhe •
was anxious that the Committee should pursue might
terminate as it ought, ,in an imjkirki4 ;dtseussi,on,
and in that fair and. dispassionate" Minuet which be, I
came a :judicial. proceeding of such exttetneimport- •1,
once. .
' The ATTO4NgY-GENERAL sattl that ifit was the
pleasure of the CUMUllitee, he would .then call Ge-
neral Claverin to the Bar.
It haying been suggested that the General's letter
should be 'entered on the minutes,
The Speaker rose to expres,, his opinion that such.
a Proceeding would be unnecessary, and that it would
be euougl>l simply to enter in the minutes, that. an
Hon. Member had received •an intimation from Ge-
neral l..slaering. that he desired to be eitaniiiiedi at
the am of tile House.
. This was accordingly done, but on thoClunrman'il
ordering General. Clavering lo be called. in, the Sei
jeant intimated that he was not there.
' Mr. Pearson was then called in, and the follow-
ing question put to him by Mr. Wardle;.'
U. Does the witness recollect the period at which
the Duke of York and Mi. Clarke left London, in
the Summer of 1805 ? , •
On the Motion of Mr. Yeamt the witness was
ordered to w ithdra,.v.
Mr. Youka wished that the minutes of the wit-
ness's last examination should be readtO Win;
The CHANCE Ls.ux of the E.)CCURQU Jilt thought the
Committee ought to proceed with great caution in
this business. In a Court of justice it would be
deertied perjury were a witness to come forward on
one day eillettly to contradict hislestimony.on an-
other. _ _

Mr. NViIIitREAD stated that it was usual, after
witneise“ had been examined before CoMinittees of
the Hutibe of Commons, to allow 'them to read over
Ithe tiiinfues of ,their evidence, in order to correct
.:any error into which they might inadvertently have •
• been 1041.
Mr. s BotraNa observed, that the Honourable
Gentleman opp.tisite seemed to be examining the
'witness as if be had not been at the Bar before. It
was the first instaucp in his experience of a witness
being re-examined, for the express And avowed pur-
pose direefly:contradieting his former testimony.
Mr. Rust:,'. while he •allowed that it .was:not uno.;
sual for,witnesses after having been examined, be-
tore Committees of that House, to be permitted to
in* over the minutes of theirevidence, contended
that this was only to enable theM to correct any
sl;ght shade of error in their testimony, and. was by
non,leatts intended to give them the power oldirect-
ly contradiCting thelnselves.
After some further conVersailon, it was agreed
that the minutes of his former examination should
be read to the witness.
Mr. Pearson was then again called in.
'CHA4RMAN —The witness must attend to the minutes of
his tamer evidence, as they aie reed to him, and coiled
them when lie may think necessary.
After the minutes were read, the Chaimian pro-
ceeded.

, Q. is there any point of his evidence, which_the witness
would wish to alter, or omit, or to which he would wish to
add —A . tyo,. On the night when his Royal HiOltits# tie
DUke York weld to Weymouth, about eleven o',4lcck, I
was sent out to . get a :bill changed, 1 got it and'
when.l returned; gave the change to Mrs. Clarke, who look.
edit over, and said 'it was alt right. I)iike.ff York was
present, both w hen received the hal fioni Mrs. Clarice,
and When! gave tier the change.
Q. By Mr. Stuaoss bovarts.—With whoni his the
witness Not any conversation respecting 'the evidence which
he gave when last at the Par ? —A. With nobody.
Q. -Has he not spoken to any pric about it d-A. To no one.
. Has he seen Mrs. Clarke —A. NO,'I have not..
sj. Old flit: winless see Mrs. Clarke when he retired (rum
the liar on a former dry ?—A: I saw tier,"but 1" did not speak
to her. •
Q. Did she speak to him ?--A. She owed her head and
sail), " I see'?earson, you 'have 'beet) claiiiined."
Q. Did she not say any thing else, --7 A, Nothing else.
Is witness positive that hi has spoken to no pvrsou,
,
' anL.4that no person has spoken to hint on the subject or his
last esaminaton met Ludowick Ortionin in the Park
since-, and he t .1d me I,was mistaken- in not recolicetingthat
it was a tut. bill that he had changed, and not bnebf larger
amount. '
Q, When the witness spoke to Mr, Wardle of his wish to