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THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JULY 11k 1849,

vinced that half measures were never prosperous. His
motto was, never to compromise, never to give up his
principles, but always to persevere. Her Majesty s Go•
vernment had declared themselves advocates of progres-
sive reform. but as far as he could see, they were now
standing still. But he must caution them, that he for
one could not continue to support a Government
which refused its countenance to all kinds of reform—
as the present Government appeared to do. They would
not go on one step towards measures of reform, while they
knew that many of their warmest supporters were
anxiously desirous. In the present state of the House
the friends of reform were actually supporting a no-
reform Government. There were millions of men in this
country who contributed to its support in a very great
proportion, upon whom its strength depended, whose
circumstances entitled them to be brought within the
pale of the constitution, but were refused it.
This dangerous proceeding might continua too long,
He recollected, though many Members in that House
might not, when Mr. Huskisson stood up in his place in
Parliament, and declared that he had heard arguments
of such a nature, as obliged him to give hit support to
the Bill for the extension of the suffrage to Birmingham;
and on the next morning he was obliged to leave the
Cabinet.—(Hear, hear.) Well, what followed in a
short time ? Why, a complete and total re-
form. Such, too, was the course of things with
regard to the corn-law. He took the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government to be a friend to reform, and
also the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Home
Department, and he conjured her Majesty's
Government to reflect, before they set their
faces against Reform, what might be the consequences.
He was, however, going to take an opposite course to
that which he had heretofore taken. Before the Reform
Bill he advocated the propriety of returning to triennial
Parliaments; and, indeed, last session he voted in sup-
port of a motion having that object in view, but having
taken the liberty of exercising his own eyes and
ears he had come to the opinion, looking
at the state the House had been brought to since the
passing of the Reform Bill, that it would be impossible
to conduct the public business properly if Parliaments
were reduced to three years in duration. Indeed, those
who advocated shorter Parliaments showed, in the in-
verse ratio, their incapacity to govern.—(Laughter.)
As far as his reading and experience had taught
him, he considered that the greatest gift heaven
had bestowed upon man was the power given
of ruling. He deprecated the foolish and silly grounds
upon which some of the best servants in that House had
lest their seats, and lamented the mans and difficulty
that had been experienced in returning them.—(Hear,
hear.) He was of the same opinion as the Hon. aen-
ttolembaen
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he ought
;
but he confessed he looked with exceeding suspicion
upon those who advocated the Charter—because he
found that the advocates of the five points were those
who represented the persons who were ready to make
that counter revolution in France, of which they had
heard so much, and also had sympathised with them as
suffering martyrs. Indeed, he found that they sympa-
thised with the disturbers of peace all over Europe.
He believed it would be impossible to have a House of
Lords and a hereditary Sovereign, if such principles
were to prevail, and the whole power of the Government
were reposed in that House alone.
Mr. HUME denied it altogether, and challenged the
Hon. Gentleman to prove that be had ever used any
expressions of sympathy with the disturbers of the
peace.
Mr. DRUMMOND said the Hon. Gentleman had said
all the world was advancing—let us ; we were once at
the bead of them, but now we are at the bottom. France
was now the highest.
Mr. HUME—That has nothing to do with it.
Mr. BRIGHT explained that the last person to
whom the remark " pulling at the Treasury"
could be applied was his Honourable Friend
the Member for Rochester (Mr. Bernal). Never-
theless, the Government po,seesed mach Church
patronage, which was equal to money value, and he be-
lieved that the Treasury exercised much more influence
over Ministers during Parliaments of six or seven yt are'
duration than they could if they were shorter. Direct
bribes might not be known, but Members were more
likely to attend to the wishes of their constitu-
ents if they appeared oftener en the hust-
ings. It was notorious that since the elec-
tion of the present Parliament greater deference
had been paid to the popular will than during any
former period. In 1720, Burke, speaking of septennial
Parliaments, said, that annual Parliaments, which he
supported, prevented that corruption of the deputies of
the Minister which must result in Parliaments of longer
duration. There could be no doubt that the state
of things mentioned by Burke was in existence
at the present moment. His Honourable Colleague had
alluded to pledges. Many honourable men did not ap-
prove of giving pledges; but hustings pledges were
merely the statement of opinions on certain measures.
On the hustings he should not pledge himself
to vote this way upon this matter, and
another way as to that. A Member must, to do his duty
properly, be unshackled by pleiges. To show the im-
propriety of doing so, he must point to the instances
they had had during the last three years of
Members voting directly in the teeth of the prin-
ciples they had advocated.—(Protectionist cheers.)
Constituents should have a guarantee thattheir Members
would appear oftener before them and be informed of
their sentiments. The Member for Surrey generally
acted so eccentrically that when he got up it was impos-
sible to tell which way he intended to vote. He was
both Democratic and Conservative, and says things
which, but for the good humour with which they were
said, would doubtless be hard hits. If they would have
large constituencies, despite little cliques in those con-
stituencies, Members who represented them, if they
pursued an honest and independent course in this
House would in the end conciliate the goodwill of those
constituencies. He insisted this House ought to
represent fairly the intelligence, the virtue, and the
industry of the country ; he utterly denied that it
did either the one or the other. Those questions
ought not to be met in that flippant manner in which
they were too often met, but gradual concessions ought
to be made to public opion, so as to bring the institutions
of the country more into harmony with that public
opinion.
Mr. WILLYAMS was opposed to any definite period
for the duration of Parliament; but he would support
the second reading of the Bill on the ground that seven
years was too protracted a period for the duration of
Parliaments, and that if Members were oftener remitted
to their constituencies than at present, there would be
less room for the existence of bribery at elections.
Mr. HENRY BERKELEY said he should vote for
triennial Parliaments as a part of that system which he
thought ought to be accorded to this House.
Lord DUDLEY STUART thought it did little credit
to the Government to oppose such a measure as this,
and some day they would find out the very great mis-
take they had committed, and that it was not safe long
to disregard the loudly expressed wishes of the people.
He knew that occasionally they awoke a little from their
apathy, and promised some concessions to the people;
but still all that could be got out of them was a slight
glimmer of their future intentions. There must, how-
ever, be something more than shadows. Tne wcrkiisg
classes of the country must have the pledge of a
measure, and they would never be satisfied
until Government came forward pith a Bill for im-
proving the representation of the country. It had been
stated by the Right Honourable Baronet at the
head of the Home Department that the Triennial
Bill only provided that Parliament should meet
once in three years, a statement that betrayed
either great ignorance of history or great carelessness.;
for, so far from that being the case, the Bill provided
that Members of the Commons should be re-elected every
three years. The Hon. Member for Truro had fallen
into a mistake in supposing that this Bill enunciated the
principle that the duration of Parliament ought not to
exceed three years. It only declared the principle that
at present the duration of Parliament was far too long a
period, but for his part, although he admitted that the
reduction of years would be an improvement in the sys-
tem, he was decidedly in favour of triennial Par-
liaments ; end if the House wished to make
the representation of the people full, free, and
effective, they must reduce the duration of Parliament
to that extent. Of course such a measure ought to be
accompanied by other reforms, such as the ballot and an
extension of the suffrage, and in supporting this Bill he
was quite ready to give the people all the rights which
they had so justly demanded of Paliament.—(Hear.)
Colonel SALWEY said nothing had been so painful
to him, as a consistent Liberal, as witnessing, as he did
last night, the contrast between the professions of the
Government while in opposition, and their practice while
in office. To him it was painful in the extreme to see
them abandoning the principles and the people who had
placed them in power, and much as he disliked Toryism,
he despised still more that spurious kind of Whiggism
which professed liberal opinions when in opposition,
but when in office was regardless and wanton in the
expenditure of the country, and took no sort of
interest in the wishes of the people.—(Hear, hear.)
So thoroughly did he detest such a mode of proceeding,
that he thought no honest Liberal ought to sit on the
Government aide of the House.—(Hear, and a laugh.)
The establishment of the Septennial Act was the
most daring act of usurpation that had ever taken
place in this country; it was the seat of all the
evils that attached to our representative system;
it had promoted bribery and corruption at elections,
and in all departments of the State, and he considered it
had been the means of enormously increasing the na-
tional debt; it allowed Honourable Members six years
for binning acd only one for repentance, and with these
view's he should give his most cordial support to the
Right Hon. Gentleman who had introduced this motion
to the House.—(Cheers.)
Mr. KERSHAW adverted to the necessity of the
measure, and said it was a melancholy sight to witness
the Government abandoning those principles which they
had previously adhered to. He cordially supported the
motion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and be trusted
the Liberal Members of the House would support the
principle of it.
Mr. CAMPBELL denied that the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government had abandoned the principles
which he advocated when in opposition, and defied the
Hon.
Member for Montrose to prove that such was the
case by any documentary evidence.—(Cries of "Divide.")
Mr. D'EYNCOURT said, the simple question before
the House was, whether or not they should return to
triennial Parliaments.
He agreed in many of the ob-
servations that had been made, for the debate had taken
a far wider range than he had anticipated. The policy
of the Reform Bill had been discussed. When the
Noble Lord had stated on his motion in 1637
that five years was a fair duration for Par-
liaments, how could the Government justify the
course they were adopting? The itieht Hon. Baronet
(Sir G. Grey) treated his observations in the same
flippant way as he had done when be spoke upon the
second reading of the Bill. It was true, the demise of
the Crown and political Ichangee had reduced

the duration of thre,a septennial Parliaments ; Int
that was no argument against his motion. He de-
clared that long Parliaments induced Mt mbrs to be
more easily reduced from their allegiance than they
would be if they were shorter.
The House then divided, when there appecred—
For the amendment 132
Against it 57
11,f6j or ity —75
SMOKE PROHIBITION BILL. _ _

On the motion for going into Committee on this Bill
Mr. ROEBUCK rose to oppose the motion. He said
he represented a great number of the manufactures of
Sheffield, Rotheram, and other places. Science had not
arrived ar:such a state as to enable laige manufacturers to
consume their own smoke. The Act sail that proceed-
ings should be taken on inform Lion against manufac-
turers from whose chimneys opaque smoke was seen to
issue, provided it was proved injurious to the neigh-
bourhood. Why. could they conceive that anything
could lead to more litigation, or be more harassing to
manufactures than this? Speaking on behalf of a large
number of manufacturers, he felt it his duty to move
that the House go into Committee on the Bill this day
three months.

Mr. Alderman COPELAND condemned the Bill, and
considered that a proceeding of this kind should emanate
from the Government. If there was a valuable patent by
which the inconvenience of smoke might be prevented,
let the Government purchase it and try it. The Bill
would be found most injurious to the manufacturers of
this country.
Sir G. STRICKLAND said no one was more desi-
rous than he was that the Bill to effect the abolition of
smoke should be passed; but the plan which would be
applied under it having been tried, had not been found
so susceptible of advantage as had been predicted of it.
He trusted that the Hon. Gedtleman would withdraw
his Bill for the present, because, as the manufacturing
interests were now much distressed, it would not be ad-
visable to put them to any additional expense in
altering their furnaces. He would himself, how-
ever, advise him not to abandon it alto-
gether, but to - bring it forward again next year,
for he admitted that it was necessary to prevent as
much as possible the emission of smoke from manu-
factories.

Mr. BANKES should certainly vote in fa-
vour of going into Committee, because he
thought the time had now come when they
ought to look to the health of those who were
most seriously injured by the smoke nuisance. Not
only then, but every day they sat, they were paying a
large sum of money for having air pumped into the
House which was adulteratied and made unwholesome
by the manufactories on the other side of the water.—
(This created a laugh, owing to the House being at the
time full of smoke.) He might mention as an instance
of the injurious effects of smoke that a fine row of trees
attached to the grounds of the Westminster School had
been nearly entirely destroyed owing to its vicinity to
the manufactories in the neighbourhood.—(Hear.)
Mr. FORSTER deprecated such an interference with
manufactories, and said the House might as well attempt
to prevent expectoration in the streets.—(A laugh.)
Sir CHARLES BURRELL supported the motion.
Mr. BRIGHT said there were two or three reasons
upon which he should object to the measure. The first
clause was objectionable in a legal point of view. In
the last three lines there was the word opaque, and if
this Bill passed a good deal of annoyance and inct•
venience would result to parties engaged in manufac-
tories from the disputes which must necessarily arise
upon the meaning of the word " opaque." Smoke
might be made opaque by the colour of the
sky above it, but be had another technical
objection to the Bill. One clause, for instance, provided
penalties in cases of irregular lightings of fires; but the
House, perhaps, was not aware that in most of the ma-
nufactel ing districts the fires of the furnaces were never
allowed to go out, and the clause might produce great
annoyance to the manufacturers, but certainly it never
could be carried into operation by any bench
of magistrates. Some centuries ago, in the time
of Charles the Second, a book was written upon
the smoke nuisance, a copy of which he held in his
hand, and if the House would give him leave, he would
read some very amusing extracts from it. The Hon.
Gentleman then proceeded to read some of the contents
of the book, which represented London at the
period to be so continuously enveloped in smoke
es to render it dangerous to live in, and then
went on to contend that this smoke nuisance
had always been a subject of dispute, and to
defy the House to prove that London was worse off now,
so tar as smoke was concerned, than it was in the time
of Charles the Second. The manufacturers were as
anxious to prevent the atmosphere being poisoned with
smoke as any one, and they had long been encouraging
scientific experiments to discover some means for con-
suming smoke. Instead, therefore, of crowding the sta-
tute with useless, mischievous measures like these,
it was far better to leave the matter in the hands of the
scientific men who were now engaged in endeavouring
to devise some means for getting rid of the nuisance
this Bill was: intended, but could not get rid of. The
Bill, however,) which the Hon. Member for Lymington
seemed anxious to pass without reference to the
parties whom it would more immediately affect,
if adopted by the House would read to
endless disputes, and in the end prove a miserable failure.
For instance, the parties to be liable to its penalties
were to be the owners of fires producing the smoke.
Just consider for a moment that in the manufacturing
districts there were such things as chimney. used by fur-
nace owners in common, and the smoke of each furnace was
conveyed to the chimney by a common tunnel passing
under ground. Now, how could it be decided in such a
case as that which furnaces had produced the smoke?—
(Hear, hear.) Well, then, the House might depend upon
it that the best course for them to adopt was to leave
the matter to science. He and other manufacturers
were us anxious as any one to get rid of the
nuisance, but it was just as impossible to
get rid of smoke: as it was to prevent some portion of the
population of the country from occasionally suffering
from want; and he hoped the House would not allow the
desire of getting rid of the smoke:nutaance to induce them
to pass Mae Bill.
Mr. CUBITT was as anxious as any man, and so was
his brother, to do all in his power to purify the atmos-
phere of London, but he felt that he could not carry on
his works, and at the same time consume his own smoke.
He should be happy to support any practicable measure.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said that if the Hon. Member
who had introduced this Bill felt himself justified in
proceeding with the measure at the present late
period of the session, and proposed to go Into
Committee on the Bill, he should feel himself
bound to vote for that motion. He had
formed his opinion with respect to this Bill from the
report of a Committee appointed at the suggestion of
the Noble Lord the Member for Faikirk, and the evi
dence produced upon it. Without pledging himself to
all the provisions of the Bill, considering it founded
upon the report of the Committee be had alluded to, ht
thought the Bill ought to be allowed to be further pro-
ceeded with.
Mr. THURNELY objected to the further proceeding
with the Bill, considering that the matter should be left
to the supervision of the local authorities.
Mr. SPOONER contended that there were different
local Acts now in existence which would effect all
that was contemplated by the present measure,
and that, therefore, the present Bill was unnecessary.
They might put their machine in the best possible con
dition, yet its operation was left to their workmen, and
they could not get those workmen to attend assiduously
to the working of the machine. The smelting of metals
depended on a certain heat, and any inattention on the
part of the workiug men irreparably damaged all the metals
under the process of smelting. Again, this Bill not only
applied to towns, but it applied also to the mines of the
country. It would be a thorough waste of time to go
into Committee on this Bill. He should, therefore, vote
against it.

-Mr. PARKER hoped his Zion. Friend (Mr. Mackin-
non) who had brought forward the Bill would post-
pone its consideration for another year ; for alter
all that had been said respecting it by the several Mem-
bers who had spoken on its merits, it was quite clear the
Bill ought not to pass in its present shape. Before the
House legislated on this subject, it would do well
to consider what they could and what they could not du
in relation to it.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. G. SANDARS cited the opinion of an eminent
engineer in Lancashire to show that the smoke preven-
tion clause in the Manchester Local Act worked ad-
mirably well. It would be desirable, in his opinion, that
the House should go into Committee on the Bill.
Mr. BONHAM. CARTER had no steam-engine of
his own, and he lived in au agricultural district; but
the other day he saw an enterprising miller who
had erected a stationary steam-engine on his farm.
Any man who had a spite against the miller
might lodge an information against him for work-
ing his steam-engine, which he thought a very hard case.
He thought this was not wholly a manufacturing question,
and he w Aild vote against the Bill in its present shape.
Mr. W. PATTEN said he would vote for the House
going into Committee on the Bill, but he did not think
that much good would result from that course.
Mr. MACKINNON replied. To the manufacturing
gentlemen this was merely a question of pounds, shill-
ings, and pence. When it was said this Bill was ob-
jectionable on the score of expense, the Hon. Gentleman
who made that remark spoke of furnaces generally, and
not to furnaces which fed steam-engines only. He
(Mr. Mackinnon) thought that that distinction should
be borne in mind. Tnere could be no question that
the smoke could be wholly prevented in futnaces which
supplied stationary steam-engines, and that too at very
small expense. He concluded by saying he would vote
for the House going into Committee.—(Divide.)
After a few words from Mr. LACY,
Mr. BRIGHT said it was impossible for any general
law to work so well as a local municipal Act.
After some observations from Mr. DUNCAN,
The House divided, when there appeared--
For going into Committee 83
For the amendment 64
Majority for going into Committee -19
The House then went into Committee on the Bill.
On the first clause being proposed, a lengthened dis-
cussion took place as to the meaning of opaque smoke,
iBlr. Mackinnon describing it as smoke that could not be
seen through, a definition which Mr.Viliitrs, Mr. Bright,
and several other Members thought very vague.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought it ought to
be required that the smoke should be such as to consti-
tute a nuisance, and thst it should also be required that
ietormers or other persons who complained of it should
give notice to the parties to stop the emission of smoke
from the chimney before any proceedings could be taken.
Mr. ROEBUCK said, as it would require the
draughtsman of the Bill to remodel the whole of it
before he could introduce the suggestion of the Attorney-
General, he would suggest that his Hon. Friend should
withdraw the Bill for the present.
Mr. MACKINNON said it was unfair at that late
period of the SOSS,OII to ask him to withdraw the Bill.
tie thought be was bound to press it, and could not '

i1t5,12% ticr..fore, to the recommendation of the Hon. •
Gentleteate
els. RICA RDO !heuc;l`t the lion. TFutltem'.r (M-.
Machineoe) e hen he Cl3llght, to get rid of ote due smoke
should consider whether the getting rid of it was not
more mischievous then ite going off by the chimneys.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM letd lot.ked at this subject
repeatedly, with is view ot devising a method of getting
rid of the smoke nuisance, but he h.l e.etie to the con-
clusion that there WOS 110 rented, hot su-h as was pro-
vided by the common law. A Bei rre•re ehserelly drawn
than this was he bad never seen in the e..u...0! of his ex-
perience, and if a motion were made fer the rejection
of the clause under the consideration of the House,
he would vote for that motion ; and if no
such motion were made, he would rota for the amend-
ment of the lion. Member for Sheffield, that the Chair-
man should report progress.
After a few words from Mr. E. DEN/sow and Mr.
MACKINNoN, who said he wit; decikk thy eppeeed to Mr.
Bernal's leaving the chair,
Mr. WALPOL' called the atten'don of the House to
the report of the Committee which sat en the eueiect of
smoke nuisance, in which the proposition was bud down
that opaque smoko might be so managed ee to be nu
longer a pubic nuisance. He thought a clai.se might
be sirawn for the obviating of opaque smoke w tech
would work well.
Sir J. GRAHAM was sorry to hear that the fill had
emanated from a Committee of this Houst ; and also
that the Hon. Member (Mr. Mackinnon) aehereel to
the original form of the Bill, though it had been t,,r some
years before the House, and he had obtained so much
experience in the meantime. The clause could net be
emended extempore, and, therefore, he was at a Inc, to
see why the Chairman should not report progress, in order
that this defective Bill might be amended. Wherever hie
was endangered, the person istjured bad a right at common
law. Smoke was necessary for the carrying on of the
manufactures of the country, and the House should be
careful how it interfered with them, and opened a door
to the common informer.—(Hear.)
Mr. LABOUCHERE expressed himself in favour of
the Bill, believing, on the faith of Dr. Lyon Playfair and
Sir Henry Delabeche, that manufacturers in large towns
could consume their own smoke, and that such a
course was necessary for the health of the
inhabitants. But he had never disguised from him the
difficulties that stood in the way ot legislation upon the
matter. His Learned Friend the Attorney-General
Having assured him that the Bill was defective, be ad-
: NiAed the lion. Gentleman to Lake the advice which had
bcen tendered to him from various quarters, and with-
- draw the Bid until enother session.
) Mr. C. VILLIERS said the moment they read the
• Bill the difficulty o: dealing with the subject presented
itself, and it had been renewed in the course
of the discwsion that had taken place. How
could an informer prove the issuing of an effluvia from
a chimney ? He could nut obtain possession of it and
produce it.—(Laughter.) Why, it might be brought to
his nostrils by a side-wind. The Honourable
Member . for Dorsetehite said that a disagreeable
effluvia had to-day fount its way into the House from
the process of Dr. Reid. Why, it might happen that a
manufacturer at Lambeth might be indicted by an infor-
mer in that House fur en effluvium which might have
got into it from his works, or, perhaps, from that of
somebody else.—(Leutoncer.;
Alter some observations from Mr. MACKINNON and
Sir G GREY, it was agreed that the Chairman should
report pregrese.
the Haute then resumed, the Chairman reported
progress, and obtained leave w sit again on Wednesday
week.

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on the road to England. What busin, ss h,:ci M. 'niers
in London under pr,stnt circumstances? Will thi. eeeret
journey bo di-nied the family c4,mpact End the letter
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T;) TIIE 1-IUNGARIAN 11EFUGELS.

" THE HUNGARIAN NATION COUNTS ON THU; SYMPATHY
OF EVERY NATION WHICH LOv,..S FIGHT AND Ll-
BERTY."—Kossittit's Protest ayaing T.a,sicrn Ii terren-

lion.

[Trip Testimonial tor the Huegarian refugees—
originally preposed by ourselves in the leading ar-
rich- published in The Sun of Tuesday, the 31 of
July. and reprinted in our impression of Monday,
the 9th instant—has not merely accumulated to a
considerable ameunt under our own au-pice e, hut has
elici eel the earnest cod eerdial co-operation of seve-
ral of the mist dietingni:ibed Members of the Impe-
rial Legislature. Tu say that we are deeply rejoiced
at this noble response to our call would be but an
imidequate t xpee-sion of our profound feelings of
gratificetion. It affords us an eloquent and very
atelible assurance, that while so large a
poi lion of the press ot England is hounding on the
united forces el Austro-Russian despotism on the
heroic Hungalians, we are very far indeed from
being isolated in our sympathy for the patriotism of
the Magyar:. No; the people of these islands, men
of almost every cless arid section of the community,
have, either be word of mouth, or through written
communication-, or through subscriptions to the
Testimonial, proclaimed to us that our sentiments
are re-echoed by thousands throughout the
United Kingdom. And now, as a crowning
confirmation that neither the multitude, nor
the representatives of the multitude, are
disposed to regard with indifference the dastardly
neglect of the Hungarians, we may point with very
allowable emotions of exultation to the formation of
the Committee of Members of Parliament, described
in the subjoined announcement—a Committee which
has been constituted for the purpose of carrying out
the objects originally suggested by ourselves. It
will be observed that the Chairman of this Committee
is the Right Honourable Lord NUGENT, M.P.,
a Nobleman who (it will not very speedily
be forgotten) was the first to respond to
our proposition, and the first to transmit
to us a subscription to the Testimonial. Our sub-
scribers—we mean our subscribers to the Hungarian
Testimonial - will be interested to learn that, pro-
sinus to the formation of the Committee, its
future Chairman, Lord NUGENT, himself pro-
ceeded to Folkstune, for tie purpose of observing
"hat might be the actual condi ion of the brave but
unfortunate refugees. There he found these sixty-
five Hussars, headed by three non corn
<aissioned officers, and presenting all those appear-
ances of toil, weariness, and privation which
now just eight days ago we ourselves mentioned.
A large barn ha,. bten appropriated to the con-
venience of the exiled soldiers; and there, with their
egirnelitals hanging about them in tatters, end their
physical strength considerably dimini,bed by their
prolonged sufferings, they are awaiting era` aid from
the generosity of the syrepathieEg English which will
enable them to return, newly -clothed, newly armed,
:end re-invigorated to the Moved laud of their
nativity. That will be a noble day for England and
Hungary when this regiment of Hussars shall
stand berme the President KosiuTtr, and shall say
to the Liberator of their c,runtry that they come to
„serielaini the syrupithy of the British people in the
tlengerian mos etnent.

It is consoling and gratifying to learn that the
?fugces et Folkestone have already partaken, and
ire still pitrttacmg of the simple, but heart-born hos-
iltslity of the inht.bitants of that seaport the
T.oor cottagers at.d fi,h,rmen carrying to them, morn-
!ig ter rooming, loaves of bread and other provisions
e.s rolv•its of their friendship.
We have yet further cause for gratification
it the circumstance that there were pre-
ut the 4 ccasion of the formation of
ne folio ing Committee, the Count LADISLAS
i'ELSKI, the rixest-ntative of the Hungarian Re-
„hlic, recently ed in London from Paris, and
with this di:-..inullhed patriot and diplomatist his
fellow-countrynian, M. PuLSKI. Their feelings are,
of course, fully and heartily in accordance with ours
in regard to this testimonial from England to Hun-
gary.—Editor of The Sun.]

We. the undersigned, having formed ourselves into a
Provi, ienal Crommittee to afford relief and support to the
sscd Ilungarian soldiers now at Folkstove, and to
collect subscrip; ions to enable them to return to their own
country, farnestly invite the contributions and co-opera-
-01 all parties who, either from sympathy with the
flungariAn cause, or on the broad grounds of humanity
And ben?volence, may be disposed to concur in the object
of the committee. Contributions will be received by the
,;everal members of the committee and the following
babkers:—
Messrs. Smith, Payne, and I Coutts and Co.
Smir.b. Messrs. Drummond.
(Signed) NUGENT, (Chairman), M.P.
DUDLEY COUTTS STUART, M.P.
CHARLES LUSIIINGTON, M.P.
FRANCIS MO WATT. M.P.
WILLIAM SCHOLEFIELD, M.P.
WILLIAM EWART, M.P.
HENRY SALWEY, M.P.
MATHEW WILSON, Jun., M.P.
JAMES HEYWOOD, M.P.
FREI,ERIcK PIGOU.
T. MILNER GIPSON. M.P.
B. M. WILI.CoX, M P.
W. MACKINNON',
TORRENS ..11•CULLAGII. M.P.
AlO \(7KION VILNES, M.P.

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