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would induce some Hon. Members opposite who might
_h
anxious to elicit the truth to vote with him. He (Mr-
W.allace) would persist in moving for a Royal Conn
Wallace)
as no Committee of that House could go into
the question to a sufficient extent. It could be only
properly entered into by a Commission, which would
make its inquiries upon the spot. It was desirable, as
rtain whether
this matter had proceeded so far, to asceh
the priests
the fault lay with the landlords or wit.
The Hon. Baronet opposite said that the Priests were
ce' ten
times worse than the landlords ; but his (Mr. Wallas)
impression was the other way, for he considered the laud-
lords ten times worse than the Priests. With regard to,
the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman opposite, it was alleged
that lie had sat as a judge in a case where he himself
,
an accuser. This was one of the matters which demanded
inquiry, and as the facts contained in the allegatior
were offered to be verified on oath, he (Mr. Wallace) wou
not cease in his! efforts to procure investigation until the
matter was fully sifted.
The House then divided, when there appeared--
For the motion .............................. 52
Against it ................................... . 123
1
Majority against it .................. ---7
TOWN COUNCILS—(SCOTLAND.)
On our return to the-gallery we found
Sir A. LEITH HAY proposing to bring in a Bill, tar
the purpose of establishing Town Councils in certain bur,jll,
of barony, royalty, and others, in Scotland, not of
Parliamentary burghs. It was a measure, be said, of '41%
the advantage to large towns would be admitted by
persons acquainted with Scotland. He would not 13.°'
enter into details of the measure, but merely content 111.0;"
self with stating that the intention of the Bill was to coal_
these towns to elect magistrates who would have the dire
tion and control oflocal arrangements.
Sir G. CLERK hoped that the Bill would not be CO-
pulsory.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
CHURCH OF SCOTLAND.
Sir W. RAE wished to move an address to his Mil'
jesty, that he will be graciously pleased to require the
Church of Scotland Endowment Commissioners to report
forthwith on the matters referred to them in so feltfars
the same relate to the city of Edinburgh. liesd a
it his duty to bring_ the question before the' He on
former occasion, and he had made a motion to that din
on which a debate was taken. The question :was decide
vvit ,
by the Noble Lord opposite requesting him to hdrtaolds
his motion, and assuring him that the Government we,„,,,
appoint a commission to inquire into the subject.
commission was appointed accordingly, and he aPPearp,
to the recollection of every Hon. Member who was roi—o
sent whether the instruction to them to report from t'
f
ant
to time was not understood to mean for the purpose
of
applying a remedy to those places where the w
?„.
church accommodation was most pressingly felt
Ad
in
(Hear, hear, hear.) Yet was the result ? Instead
of any remedy being applied, the Commissioners,
at`l
to the present moment had actually made no reporth :
all ; and, what was still worse, he learned from high autha3
rity that none would be made this session. Nay, be a
heard that one of the Commissioners doubted whether
report should be made at all. Under these circunist,4lo
lie felt called upon to bring the subject once again
Parliament, for the purpose of compelling the Commiestenith.
there
report to the House, or to state their reasons for where
holding
it. The question at issue was whether or Scot-
as be a grant made for Church accommodation in it
la'
nd . If there was, why not ascertain at once Whe
nr:rej
was most needed, and apply it without delay ? Ahu
Churches might be endowed out of the sum alreadY
ptheen.sdhfoeedrdm.. He had been informed that the Edinburg early
trictfin was completed, and that the Glasgow was 11-,
ua
er,Wehryeashohuelttnieft
retandey C? omumaisdseiorngs
esereritrcc",l3.coir:
stances he felt bound to press his motion. If, l'es' that
htnhleeenwNt ousbol
dl eaesttrooarin
idaaoakperpeoi
report
available
awiilaoaubtllhdee givefporre
legislation,
aatniona sessions shuere af a
(Sir it
Rae) would withdraw it, otherwise he should cortler t.
his duty to take the sense of the House on the 11 sir
—(Hear.) The Honourable Baronet concluded by 'll°ll
the Address. 'in''
Lord J. RUSSELL believed that it was an 'in'', ol
course to take to address the Crown, for the 1.51
0 1..01
requiring a Commission to report, without regard bei"g
°olce
to the state of preparation in which they might beerei s
one. The Commission was appointed in the latt. e,,
,"(to
last August. About the beginning of November
first enabled to enter on inquiry. The interval 3splaes
ployed in putting matters in train, and completloo
for proceeding. In January they examined above notioe°
nesses, chiefly clerical, in Edinburgh. These eNt°9,l"„ pro'
occupied a considerable length of time. TheY t''e'Otorc•
ceeded to Glasgow, where they examined about their
It was not at all wonderful, with such occupation for
I°ea,.
time—seven or eight hours a day being fully ele,r_„Yooso
that they were not ready with their Report boar' 00
One of the additional causes of the backwardeess'A to
the illness of one of their members. Witli rore;
les
s(tphiLil
eoeetuerl partial
trbht3eieea
;men
pRa
odeßrept
asrmsttei
rtqell) dusbi required
tdm.
not.ad byev
v thinkotl ifet HaiGtt
aanasn.dgdsoilv.
rEsl
aaa
ibor tii0:10t;
but not of the latter solely. He had expressed. Itsce°i`vied
to the Commissioners to that effect. He bad r cod'
letter from the Secretary totlieComamsistsoiotnb,cisevjpic
1
tamed the latest and best information ro th
-
i_ngs ; and as he (Lord J. Russell) could not accede root
Hon. Baronet's motion, he should move as an atil,eTaieso
that an humble address be presented to hist' sore
praying that a copy of a letter addressed by Sr
tart' of the Scotch Church Commission to the u.ins- iefore
cretary of State for the Home Department be laid
cd
the House.
Mr. GILLON said the Commission was a °ll-to th°,
one ; and that it was calculated to give no conteati,nay 0'
the people of Scotland. The interests of the vast l'ic,11)",
Dissenters in that country were entirely unrepresee osca
it, inasmuch as out otthe eleven Members which co: Ptheir
it only one was a Dissenter. He protested egairto g0(36
report in limine as that of a one-sided body. `'"
could possibly result from ho at'
Sir G. CLERK said that the Hon. Member big hos'
just sat down took every opportunity of manifesting ",7 0,0
tility to the church of Scotland, and therefore it of
that he protested in anticipation against the 1'1)004
the Commissioners. He (Sir G. Clerk) had ne ea
on to the Hon. Member espousing the cause
objection
the Dissenters with as much zeal as he thong
at nears
sarY ; but he strongly objected to his doing 0° " Witlt
expense of the character and feelings of others. Ude"
respect to the question before the House, it r;_as„,soar,
'liable that there was a want of sufficient churcu
modation for the poor in Scotland. He adatititedtotd.
the course proposed by his Right Hon. Friel? CO;
dress the Crown, for the purpose of making t"sir
report was an unusual one ;
missioners but he
Clerk) should beg to suggest one which was less s';': We'
and which he was sure would have the support of tiv vote
Member for Middlesex. He would propose that theto ho
of 10,0001. included in the miscellaneous estimates Co
er
brought. on next Friday should be withheld until tern
to je.
missioners had shown the House what they had do!in tore
serve it.—(Hear, hear.) If that would riot orclhe
effectual than the private admonition of the Noble :1"
del
(Sir G. Clerk) was very much mistaken. , 0 c
Mr. HORSMAN, as one of the Commissioner', ho
assure the House that no unnecessary delay wii"tc e
,
taken place. _ (1.4,s
11Ir
After a few words from Dr. Bowaisro, .F. ra
and Mr. OSWALD,
Sir WILLIAM RAE replied, and the motion lugs;
drawn.
IRISH CONSTABULARY BILL' to 04/
Lord MORPETII rose at a quarter past twelve 4 do
the attention of the House to the above Bill, as se“,os
by the Lords, with voluminous amendments. I.!e ,lboal*
pThreepiarreLdetrodsioliffpesr
had,any captious op poottteiraitteoratlronr::
derably reduced the number of appointments vestedc;co;
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland under the Aet. The intaleat
ment had originally proposed a scale of airoot eery
which would admit of and secure the most eteeelccoarY;
stabulary force, that might at any time bet." to iitt.
but, except in circumstances of necessity, tulboo
intend to have acted on it by
filling tiP had be
to
e!
pointments. Their enlarged arrangernen" con)pit
adopted in the conviction that the mgr© 0 sorely
they rincingdhetre(dleetrheeaseconositeabmulialirtyaryfoercseta,htibisebt:ftrsl., trriii.Wt
they
erenthe; "96.0GrPol'
oanfdLiotrmdsu,sthdoowetivleertelistadit :eoutidcuonadfi
ut
ties thrown in its way. The House of Lords !,ladflijj; lung
duced the patronage of Government under thi
(1);ic,
llHrussee,
that was not a point of which any person 31!
ttsl„
likely to complain. Ho then adverted to it
ed'oaubioa thre't.
reduced the number of paymasters, while , r
share of labour, by extending it over a.F obort to
This increase he felt bound to provide for by .`
enueer,.3tki):tr •
which would be necessary to adjust thoi.rer.
d for tut' bt)c6
their duties. In clause 11, which proVh, _
so,
azonstat jo
„t allOWd% ,j 11;
in
atiction baroniesof aa certain t
ha it?
half-baronies,
obeei re
so, of
the constableseffeet 1,11%,
would only be enabled to introduce M. 76,1;
cr`
the occasion. In the countY of Galra:iti),,re 1
°u
113Ve„U13
one district, in which 560 were at pre!c
wwever
have been stationed, they would in
are
allowed, &l
ow be
In'the county of Galway, where I._
nn , I tit) would of
only have 20 ;in the city of hooflk rfickfergiO,
reduced to 20 ; and in the town a , tii
(dildpbe,
calculated to WA( tha
the provisions of this clause wehree•
aid, an ignorance
cot
sive mischief, displaying, ae t
efficient establishre
material facts necessary for the e
100, they would henceforth only be allowed a. to 4., ti 0