The Sun.
London, England, 1831-09-23 00:00:00

while the Continent is in the precarious state that it is,
would Russia have dared to commence the carnage which
has not been consummated in the trenches and streets of
Wars for the se,ffilds have yet to demand the Wood of
patriots which the sword of war has spared. But the
English and French Cabinets are directly charged by the
Polish Government with treacherously abusing their con-
fidence for their own selfish interests. They speak of pro-
mises from the French and English Minister, which have
been shamefully falsified. How will Lord Grey answer
this ? But we know that if he cannot answer it satis'ac-
torily, the epitaph of Polish freedom will record the dis-
honour of his Administration.—Morning Herald.
The Reform Bill has at length made its appearance in
the 110119 P of Lords, and has, as our readers will see by
the report, been read a first time. And when do Ministers
intend to move the second reading will he asked with eager
curiosity by all, with ardent impatience by a few. To-
morrow ? No, not to-morrow. Next day ? No, not next
day. Then on Monday? No, not on Monday. How
early then in the next week ? Alas, not next week at all.
The Bill, for delaying which the friends of the British
Constitution in the House of Commons have been stig-
matized and calumniated and reviled by Ministers and th;;
friends of Ministers, is to be permitted by these same
Ministers to lie for eleven days unheeded on the table
of the House of Lords. This is, no doubt, respon-
sive to the feelings of the country, which has shewn
pretty conclusively that its ardour and impatience for the
consummation of the revolution have of late considerably
abated. The people are in no hurry for the completion of
the Bill, and the present Minister makes it a point of ho-
nour and conscience, unless when he has got a cousin to
provide for at the national expense, to be always with the
people. This extraordinary and unexpected postpone-
ment of the great measure will of course excite much
speculation, and some will so read the riddle as to deduce
from it the conclusion that the Minister is not ready
for an early division in the Upper House of Parliament.
When Parliament, after sitting all the summer, is still
sitting, now that we have got to the latter end of Sep-
tember, and in the case too of a Bill already, as we have
been told, more than abundantly discussed, the loss of
eleven days, it may naturally enough be supposed, is not
sought by a Minister who believes himself to be strong.—
In the Commons the Ministers wanted no delay, they
would have abridged even useful and necessary discussion
to arrive with speed at the end of their task, and the rea-
son was. that in this House they could confidently reckon
upon the result of every division. How different are their
tactics now that they have no longer pledged Members and
meek delegates to deal with ! They have become all at
once languid, irresolute, and tardy, as much so, indeed,
as if they were convinced that the first division will be
fatal to their Bill and to their power. We can discover
only two motives for this unexpected and unnatural post-
ponement. The first is the hope that in the interval be-
tween this time and next Monday se'nnight a change may
be wrought in the opinions of some of the Noble oppo-
nents of the Bill. The second is the hope that some of
the antirevolutionary Lords may be terrified into acqui•
eacence in the measure by the petitions which arc now pre
paling with so much art and industry. In either case the
revolutionists are doomed, we imagine, to a bitter disap.
peintment. The Lords, who have been firm until now, are
not likely to adopt the Bill when even the rabble are de-
serting it; and the petitions, however numerous, can
hardly be represented as speaking the sense of the country,
in the face of Alderman Wood's admission, that the whole
assemblage which, after every effort, could be collected to-
eether in favour of the measure in Guildhall, and on a
Nloniley too, fell short of a thousand persons ; and when
,he Hon. Baronet the Member for Westminster will ad-
mit also that he could not obtain an audience in Covent-
arden to listen to its praise one thousandth part so nu-
merous as the mobs who used to hang with rapture upon
he eloquent harangues by which, in the early part of his
eareer, he laboured to depreciate the bread and the beet
consumed by the prisoners in the Middlesex House of Cor-
rection. We loiik forward, we confess, to Monday se'n
light with renewed and invigorated confidence, from the
mere circumstance that Earl Grey his preferred the second
Monday to the first. —Morning Post.
The speech of Sir R. Peel on Wednesday night was un-
doubtedly one of the most powerful, conclusive, and states-
inan.like ever delivered in the House of onsmons. The
mints to which he mainly addressed himself were these :
What are the evils complained of under the present system ?
Can those evils be traced to our ancient Constitution? Will '
the Reform Bill remedy those evils ? In these three queries
evidently lies the whole subject, and unless they can be '
satisfactorily answered by the clamourers for Reform, no '
case for Reform is made out. The Reformers having no
ruth on their side, studiously avoid these questions. Sir R.
Peel took a close and fearless view of them, and proved by
,iinute demonstration and by stubborn facts that the
House of Commons as at present constituted has shewn
;tself available for every good purpose, and that the Re-
form Bill, so far front removing any evils that may exist,
would effect incalculable mischief, and tend to general
revolution. We hope that the imperfection in our report,
necessarily arising from the lateness of the hour at which
,he speech was delivered, will soon be remedied by its
publication in full ; but in the mean time we may safely
'efer to our Paper of yesterday to bear us out in the de-
scription we have given of Sir R. Peel's admirable reason-
ne, and his method of treating this solitary yet never-
ceasing argument of the Reformers—." The people demand
his Bill ; they most and will have it, and there's an end
of the matter."—Morning Post.

The Thunderer—a noble vessel of two decks—was
yesterday launched at Woolwich, and glided into the wa et
with an ease and liking to it, which we hope is an omen
to her of many glorious days in her country's cause ; and
yesterdly, also, another Thunderer—a two-ffeeker—fo-
,he King and Commons have only as yet agreed upon her
equipment—was launched into the House of Lords,
manned by a body of Commoners, whose integrity and
zeal were manifested in a very unu.sual manner, but of
whose ultimate success in the glorious cause which they
have undertaken, we entertain not the slightest doubt.
The launch of the Thunderer at Woolwich, was
signalised by every circumstance calculated to render
the event memorable. The King, the Queen, and the
whole of the Court, were present; and it affords us
pleasure to observe that, if the people had reason
to be proud of their Majesties, their Majesties had also no
less cause to be proud of their subjects. The crowd of
well-dressed people was immense; and during the whole
of their passage to and from Woolwich they were received
with the most deafening chests, by tens of thousands of
loyal subjects. With regard to the Thunderer launched
into the House of Lords, we may also say that it took the
water kindly—was welcomed by a first inspection, or ap•
proval—and accompanied by a cortege, not of the royal
patrons, but of about 250 Nobles and Commoners, who,
instead of following the antiquated mode of merely nam-
ing the vessel confided to their Lordships' care, expressed
'heir anxious and heartfelt emotions on the subject
by a round of gallant cheering. She is a trim, as
well as a strong-built, vessel, and independent.
-f he: accidental alliance with her Woolwich
namesake, promises to bid defiance to every gale, rock, and
quicksand, which may oppose her passage, through the
Lords. Grey is an old, as well as a bold and experienced,
pilot ; and there is no one who will serve the guns with
more energy and decisive aim than Brougham. Before
quitting this subject it is but fair to record the high esti-
mation in which we hold the services rendered by Lord
Althorp and Lord John Russell, in their management of
the Reform Bill. Few speeches have been made in the
House of Commons of more sterling merit in every re-
,p,o., than those of Lord John Russell on the introduc-
tion of the Bill ; while, notwithstanding some expres-
sion of impatience by us some time ago, at the
slow progress of the Bill we are frank to own that
language would ftil us were we to attempt to ex-
press our admiration of the steady and unflinching
perseverance of Lord Aithorp in carrying the Bill through
the House. No leader of the Commons ever hid a more
factious opposition to encounter than that with which the
Noble Lord had to contend ; but his good sense, as well
as his good nature, proved triumphant, and we question
greatly whether, under all circumstances, the Bill could
have been entrusted to alder hands. He has now, most
creditably to himself, and most satisfactorily to the country,
discharged himself of the all-important task confided to
him; and we have only to express our earnest wish that
it may be as successfully managed in the Lords as it bas
been in the Commons. It is no exaggeration to observe
that on this point depends the peace of the country.—
' Morning Advertiser.
The lateness of the hour at which Mr. Stanley de-
livered his speech in the House of Commons on Tuesday,
will account fur the apparent injustice which we did him
in our Paper of yesterday by omitting to name his effort
with those of Mr. Macaulay and Mr. Croke'', as dis-
tinguished above the other speeches in the debate of Tues-
day night. Mr. Stanley not only distinguished himself
on the occasion to which we allude by an eloquence
worthy of his high character—he dispersed the whole
fabric of ingenuity and assertion by which, with consider•
able talent, we allow the Ex-Secretary contrived to raise a
laugh for the benefit of the boroughtuo.gers. Let any im•
partial man read the speech of Mr. Croker ; let him then
turn to the able commentary of .
speech, and, if he do not recognise in Stanley
tanleyon that
manly Yignlic of the latter a the straightforward
complete and triumphant