The Sun.
London, England, 1809-04-11 00:00:00

EMPEROR JOHN ALEXANDER WOODPORD, ESQ.

State to the Committee the circumstances relating
to the appointiornt of the Writer, which you weto
going to, cortunuoicate to Mr. ihollussur. when you
met him in Lombard-street. Mr. Thellusson had
at my request given me a Writership.
At, what time ?---ti is within tht last eighteen
months, bull Cannot exactly Atari., "the limo, which
Wtitership I allowed ti be M.-pused of lOra sum of
money; and when. I saw that: by some circumstances
that tranAaaion was likely to be Made known, '1
thought it my, duty to intOrm Mr. Thellussou how
far I was culpable.

'To wlmn was that appointment given, that was
fio 6isposed of ?.;--,To A Mr. Fry IVlagniac j that gen-
tleman tans since, -I understand, been recommended
to.the Court of Dire&ors for promotion, in conse-
quence of his superior qualifications..
What sum of money did you receive for this ap-
pointment ?—Three thousand guineas, I believe, was
thestm.

From whom did you receive •it ?--I received it
through the hands of Mr..Tahourdiu.

Did he negociate this appointment with you )—I
went to bun, I think, to desire hint to procure some.
body to purchase the appointtnent.
What was your acquaintanC,:. With 141 r. Tai,our.
din P—Mr. Ttlhotirdiu.origitiany wrnte int a great
many letters relative to t I pr., ,(ilicsilli dal:rent
parts of the Country, utieredlcse -as Trustee
for the late Mr. l'hellusson, gone ett:ates in flatly-
: I wan very desireth of , liatttpShire estates,
Find foond'hito to be a liatnpshire-nian Mt. Ta.
flourdittia brother ‘va4 curate to tnyuncle, the-late
Archdeacon of Winchester. •
When did your aegaaintance with Mr. Tahotmlin
cominenee think it mutt be nearly three
years ago; I cannot state, particularly
What is Mt :Tahoitrdin P—A Solicitor. •

Dciyou know Mr..ainovan 17.4 ha, e heard and
known 604 r. Donov:in by reputati.,in ti,r many years;
but:l neverheard'Of or saw thin, or knew of his be-
ing at all connealed.witli this transaction till I saw it
.in the Papers ; had hadany' idea that mocha roan
as Mr. Donovarfeould have Been conneeted ith the
transatlion; I certainly should riot.
• Was any other Fierion known to you in this trans-
aetien except Mr. TahoUrdin ?—None,
Had you any interview with Air. Fry Magnin, or
any of his relations cannot speak to-that; but I
rather think I saw him once ; I urn uncertain ; I
know that I took great pain') to ascertain that he was
a proper, person for tb recommendation 3. I sin not
quite certain whether I did see him or not, but it is
possible. I waslold that he had been bred. up for
the appointment, -and that he understood Persian.
Did you receive no personal,application,from Mr.
Fry Magniac, or any of his relations ?--.None at all.
Did you receive -any money for the appointment
of Edward James Smith in the season 1806-7 ?-4
did.

From whom did you receive that money ?—From
Mr. Tahoardill.
What was the sum ?—:-.15001.
Had you any acquaintance with Mr. Edward James
Smith ?—None.

Did you ever see him previous to the appoi4.
ment ?--No.

Did yr ti treat with any of his relations.or whit
him tor that appointmentl.:—Ncter, • .
WA :ally other person privy to that tratisatiion,
excerting Mr. Tahourdiu ?—Not ouy knowledge,
Did you receive any money for the appointment 01
Henry Gardiner ?---Nont..

', Had you not, a considerable number of year.; ago,
a Writership liven yiin by Mr. Thelltiwin ?=—Ycs, L
„
had.

To whom was 'it given ?-1 really forget the Gen-
.
tle.man's name; there was no pecuniary cansidera-
tion taken for that, that .1 know , of; none to my
knowledge.
When you recommended Mr. Edward Smith to
Thellusson,. what reasons did you give tor the
reconimendritiOn ?.;....-That I wished very much to
oblige Mr. Smith. , , ,
What claitits did" yoUrepresvut Ir. Smith as 113 V-:
ing 111)0111 your leCOlTltltetidatiOti ?-4 do not reCol-
lett that 1 rePresented atiy.
Either of relationship or friendship 1-7 f said that
he was a person'W hum I wished very much to
oblige..
Did you state any coni.e6tion with his family
?--
None. Yon must take. ittto your consideration the
siluationin which I. stood in' regard to. Mr. Thellus-
son, and you will not wonder, perhaps, mat he
should be naturally inclined to do whin I wished,
without any very minute inquiry into those things ,•
he could not, suppose 1 made any improper Use 01 b,
however I might have been Lulpable iu so.doing.
should have thought caution on his part would have
shown a Suspicion that he must hate thought me
undeserving, andH hat I should have thought myself
in some degree injured. Mr. George Thellusson mid
I were the earliest friends, and he could have no rea-
son till now in supposing I abused his contideuce in
any of those transactions.
What eircomstani-es led you to conclude that Do--
novan's examination pointed at tins transaaton, ra-
ther than any. other in which you might !oe been
concerned with Tahourdin I—l only guessed that
from seeing the name in the newspaper, Tabourditt.
I thought, as the names were so nearly alike, it
must have been Mr. Tabourdin.
Was- Any pecuniary consideration given or pro.
mired JOT. any .of
,the C4:letships that you obtained'
.from Thellusson 1-.--None that I know of.
There was 'cane application that did not succeed ?
Yes, that was ,not to Mr. Thellusson, but to Mr.
Roberts.
What was your inducement for making that ap-
plication 1-.-=TO obtain it fora young man, a neph,w
of a friOnl, of mine, without any..pecuniary concern
or retribution whatsoever.
Did you make. anyi and what -representations to in-
duce Mr. Thellusson to appoint Mr. Fry Magniac
That it wouldenable me to oblige a particulur:frtend
of mine.
Did you State who that friend was 1-4 did.
, Who was it I—lt Wat a person who was ignorant
of the transaction.
State his name.—Sir Walter haws.
Had Sir Waiter James made any application to
you I—No, none.
Had he arty knowledge of the transaction I—None
9f my making use of his name. .
Did you make any and what representations to in:.
duce Mt. Thellusson to accommodate you with an
exchange ‘between Mr. Gardner and Mr. Green-
Slade >—No 'other titan that it was a matter,ol gteat
accommOdation to me.
Was Sir Walter James 'known to Mr. Thelluison
I cannot say,
.but 1 should think not.

Had Sir Walter JaMes any interest in the 'success
of Mr. Fry Magni.ic ?-4N,,, none at all.
What countryman is Mr. Fry Magniac really
Clo not know; I have no knowledge of him i he has
been recommended to the Dire Cups tor proteOion in
consequence of his acquirements.
Pid Mr. Tahonrtlin tirst suggest this mode.of traf-
tic to you, or did you first suggest it to Mr. Tahotir-
cn ?».1 wished very much to obtain a seat in Pal e-
relent,' and in out conyertation relative to Hau3o4

,
Or for Mr. Oreenslade's which was in exchange - shire estatei,'T asked Mr. Talidtirdin if he could fur-
for that ?—None:' ' -:' .. . ward Thy views, Solicitors being, as I midi rstoo I,
• ,
'Was not ihat.eichange made at your' request by persons likely to do so ; be sai4,that h. thou: bt that
Mr. Thellussou ?—certainly it was.. ' , f through East India patronage I might possibly arrive
l3id )on receive any benefit froM it ?—None; no, ', at it ; I said, that was a matter that I thought I could
I received no benefit from that of Mr. Gardiner i • I command, and I then applied to my, cousin for this
Was only going to state,' that though I must stand Writer:ship.
culpable for the money received, that .itis in fa& t Did Mr. Tahourdin represent to you,that he WM
mine, this would be 'a charge upon me, perhaps. 1 familiar oreenversant with such transa6tioos?-7Mr•
believer-I. had better leave -it as it is, that 1 received Tahourdin said, -that certainly.. in the Course of his
the money.
~. ‘- • .. . . . business he very often negotiated seatsin Puha-
' Did-you receive no benefit of any kind'whatever meat, or interests of that kind; I cannot state ex •
from the transalion respecting Mr. Gardiner and dly the amount of-what- he Said. ...
Mr.•Greenslade ?—No. . ' ' ' ' I refer to the Sale- 'of placei and offices.--No, I
Had you no expeastioti of any kind from that have no reason to think he was, previous to Otis
transsEtion ? lam to have the gift of a living, to conversation; I haetbad, no knowledge of him 10
hays the disposal of a living; 'some months hence, in this kind of way before.
the West of England. • . •' At whit time did the first conversation paq3 bpon
Who is to put You into Poisassion of that.living ?, this subjeti ?--[should4 think about two years ago;
—Mr. Tahourdini t • • 'I am not prepared to stat e exaolly, but * little time
.. What living is that?--I' do not know at 311: it is before Mr. Smith's appeintnient or ,inviapplitition
one that he will probably Obtain for me. to Mr. Thellussoti forhim ; it Most,hAve been.pro-
What is the value of that living stipulated to be? bably the beginning of 1806,. about two years ago.
—4.l4'roin 2001. to 3001..1 year. Were any of thoseAhree transaCtionsaind the filo-
.
Ilave,you any security fort at ?-4None. ney received in. consequence, .cionneded with the
ir.Nry written document ?—,None whatever. ' • view of obtaining • a -seat in Parliament ?"'-!" they
No memorandum ?--N6ne. turned out, #9ti6; '
• ' I.l:ive yoii, staticient confidence in the integrity of Was .ibi.iakt of them dire6letl-tosvards obtain-
Mr.Tahourditt to rest a "transaction of that kind en- Mg a seat-in, Paillament•erigioally ?--'l-No• .. .
tirely tii.On his recolledinti awl honour ?-7Certainly,,,' t
,IrY,l)at then, led you, in the first
I.ll:l%,:tever seen any thing in him that should.at.all into this sortpftratlie with Nit-. Taboordin ?—When
mike. nte doubt it; I: considered all theSe transac-: '_l, had obtained- this nornittatinn,'' Mr. T3!wn,rdin,
Lions :is tranSaaions of honour; -.lld took no gecn.; '
whatever his 'views tOr me, which he did in)t 4t"tti
not
city for their being cattiea into effed,:- . • ,to me, we,res,ttproted,to Think ,that they we 7 1
Is that living to be at your disliogal for the purpose 1 likely to succeed ; the:cooVers'atipn was excee tug y
of sale ?-7 .No.di
jastanee, to enter
. : loose nothing-of a specific nature was tnentione
, . .
What is the deStitrition of that living ?—I intend v "'Was ifebe-attrysiqutri - or•thr tren•-prat'aitatiOn to
it for ri cousin of mine, Mr. Siwrrar.
' This gentle- a living, you ;were to .hones-.-The' tett presents-
Into does not , know any thing in the world of the ': tion, . , : ...-
.
transact ion, .
.
you' -
,with Mr.' ,i ,
obt%aVi
nh
eedn , : wasnot
in it
atati be vacant ?tTlelrte wwaass one tdoirebcl
Havehad any wiser transa&ionse
Tahourdin, from which you derived any Pecuniary ; negoeiatiOn tor the Hying ; it was said;' in' the cowl
adVantage, .or expectation of Advantage, in -conse-
! of so many months you
Mr., ThelltetsOn certainly
for.it
None. ' nor indire_alY of those transactions,; and, from my
h al_tk obtain
iu,w
neitherte a
ciliirveiangi
quence of appointments in the India House ?—;
.Did Mr. erhellugson, at the, recommendation of ' knowledge of him, Lam perfed eite ly vinCed that,
yourself, appoint any Cadets at any time 1.---I.believe had 'be known of them, he wuutd have put a .01013
several. . . ; to them. I think it highly incumbent upon the to
Who were they ?.....-I :do not remlle& at this time, i state that.
Do you recollect none of them ?—I think there is
a Mr. Budd, that ranee recommended to him.
Do you, recolltkt any other names ?—Not just
now : I` have asked them of him for many persons
who had applied for :them, without proper consi-
deration.
, . ,
, Have you at any time obtainedany Writership or
Cadetship from any other Director ?—No,.e that I
know of. I applied to Mr."Bobaris for an appoint-
ment some little time ago, but it never has been car-
ried into toteention.

Alft. OA,BRIEL TAIIOURDIN.
I,Vood-
How long have you kuuwo Mr Emperor

I ford ?-!—About 'thre-e years.
What was the occasion of your first acquaintance
with him I—l made. an application to ' him teepee'
ing the sale of several estates, understimding,:that 24
executor under Mr. Thellosson's will, lie had con-
siderable sums of money ai his disposal. •
Upon what occasion did you first know that he
had any; command of India Patronage ?—tu conse-
quence of this atiplication .we find frequent coMOR3-
nications, and in the course of c.nversarion th't
j among other siikjectit was tot•ntioncil
,Mr. W. I'd'
ford asked,Me°ll I had in the course of proresaton
any Parliamentary interest everotfereci, which g‘o
rise to questions relating to Writerstiip. 1 (oaf Oto
ut,
11; thatrtoiiDgiehalt.3 occur,1
yw)aohjuiciiiagnead:lhtoei tielixatrnp°:'
ria!e: uWi's: with 4.
ct
1)tc."'e*`)1"1)13
into ,Partiornent hiMself or some Ion"'
c
ltis rlecva with regard
to a se.at in Pat liamen
; pusal of Indian patro'n' ase ?—1
arbsetrom hint. • . .
IRecollea yourself', and givens accurate
as you con upon that. point I—Whether mentioned •
it first or be, Ido not know. can take upon
myself to say positively that beA,..,.:ve it t!aitie from
Woodford. e •an ocCounAt
Upon what occasion had)nu'first any iransa~gion
acawt 100, anti the coz)sersation which pissed, wli d
has just been stated, I saw Mr. Woodtorti and .
he asked use if any thing 'old .oc;:urred selative to
Parliamentary interest, re!erring to ttti conversation
which had taken place 'befor'e ;, my ,tut we r wa.; no
In conseeeoce of which' Mr. Woodford de.sired i ,
would dopose of the Writership. " •
At what time was tibiS think it was witty 16,
the year 1807! „_
Did Iv, tell you that he had a Writership:at his
ciispusal at that time ?--He told me he could cunt'
in3NlVldhoatn-en.egriciation took place,
:on your. yrt, with
'Mr. Woodford in consegnethe al. this ?—Uilder.'
standing from Mr. Woodtord•that it .gas his wish 1°
have the Writership disposed of, I made inquiries
among my friends, and I found a person who Was
desirous to take it.
Who was that person ?--The dentleman who
named the person to me was Mr. Witnbouro.

Where does he live Chancery lane. .
What I. he At Roney.
'Who, did he name to you ?t-..14 it Withedl!lat
I boa; give the name of the Gentleman WO"
the situation, or that of his friend.
Both ?—ffet. did _not lova. smer the, name
Gentleman,.
is
3n,. hheisganvaem me e),thlzinr.amLefijoiitg-taiisofflp 11)r
,tiaia.

place.
What led you to apply to • Mr. Witni)Orn
lapSVl)eenreedyaocici:irnelltilaileiyhaasniitil:ft choimin.mnniolting
Mr. Wimbonnt upon subteds of ibis kind F--,Nuilr.
Had you ever any other' tratisattioute e
WI zibouro for the disposal of any office
Wow led you.to mention the circonlitimee
Wiinbooni ?—•,Merely, as I stated bet Ore, Accident
ally in ovversii ion.
Were yi..n in the 'habit of mentioning, if gol.e"
to alt Attornies Whom 'you conversed with

was not.
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the"appoiniment.
Did you ever see Mr. Laing ?--Yes.
Dill your neguciation pass diree)h Wil It Mr. 14'..'134
after you were introduced to gr. \\flintJowl) i-r-1
immediatdfr with Mr..-Lnsw.
And not thrott4h' Mr. Wialbovirn "
?-;-.1 '.0)!. i.-'4'
him, once or . twice in the cow 9C' of the 11-41141'.''' 1)-
t
that wa, all. . .
Was Mr. Witnbourn pr,.......ent at yrttlr Conl'ic'Y''''.
with Mr. Lang upun tli, sutra )--.1 no no tit, '`.
he war.
Who paid you.the monr ?--lt
Where `was a depwitukt ?—.At my L4il,li'":.

Who are our. bla.hkers ?.;:.4tansorn; Artariand; anti
Compiny. ; • , • • •,
What . was the. itirn deposited 1-1 hreb thOUsind
five hundred yotands. •
In whose dames 2—Mr. I.Vimbourti'S name Ond_
my own. • • -
'Was it deposited.by Mr. Laing 2—l really clo not
know ' 'a t omniunicatiod .was made to me by Mr.
Wirnbourn, 'stating- that the money was deposited;
I do not kticy.v who, deposited it, •
By whom was the condition signed.?--I do not
know of any coodnion ;. it was deposited itt Mr.
Wimbourn's and inv joint names.
Was 'lsere no written engagement of any sort
Nonetlica I know of.
What power had you,. to draw it out I—Mr.
Wimbourn's signature *its necessary, and that 'was
given. .
, Was not your signatoelnecessary to draw it out e
wa* passed to inyacenuiit.
To whom did you pay tbts money paid it to
Mr. WJOCI lord. •
1)41 ‘‘,l3 pay to Mr, Woodford the whole of this
money ?—The rnoiney was 3,6001.; Whet I,er I paid
Mr. Woddrniat the 3,5001. and he returned me 1001.,
of which he 'made me.a present, nr.whether he, he.
fore I paid him the money, told me to keep back
1001. and so I paid him Only 3,4001. I-do not know.
The whole advantage you derived personally. from
,4
this transaction was 1001. ?—,The snlelidvantage.,:-
Was that in consequence of '.any preVionS- agree-
ment, or what Mr. Woodford thoiight proper to
iv, von, without previous stipulation ?—'What he
11300 girt proper to give me, without any previoui
stipulation 4. hateter.
‘V hat was .the name of •the person who avaa.ap-
pointed I—His name was Smith.
• -
Was it Edward James 'Smith I—l cannot speak
as to ins Christian name.
Upon what event were you to pay this money over
to Mr. Woodford ?-r-Ott Mr. Smith b being appoint-
ed a Writer to Bengal.'
Did you mention the specific consideration which
was "PeOed, or was it an offer wide on the part
or Mr. Laing, or Mr. Wimbourn ?—I believe 1
atated•the sum to be 3,5001. ; the money lay my
bands for a few weeks, in consequence of Mr.Wocitt•
ford's desiring me to look out for a security on
mortgage tor :3uool. and Mr. Woodford mentioned.,
the names of the persons to me, but I dd not knoW .
whether I can mention the names of the persons ;
it was to be laid out in trust for two you, g people
Mr. Woodford declared to me that the money was
not for himself.
Before you concluded this transaction with Mr. '
Ns/M*onm, did you apply to any other person to be.
tome a purchaser of this. Writership 1-1 really
jcannot . say ; with Mr. Wimbourn it merely arose
in-Conversation : we live near each other at Chelsea,
lind Often came to town together ; 1 might have at-
feted it 16 several of my clients, but I cannot say; I
• 1164't'r 'expected to be called upon, and did not retain
It in my memory. 1
Did you ever apply to any person who was in the
babit of trafficking in the ssle of commissi,,ns or eau-
Plorments I—Never in,. my life; I never had the
least idea bt it ; it came to me quite accidentally.
1) first mention to Mr. Woodford, or Mr.
Woodford to you,
.the idea of giving him money for
this ?—M., WOottord to me.
Did Mr. Woodford propose to you, that you
aellte,:f.Y.s4im money, for it, if you could not pro.
Seat in Parliament )!--4 might say to
Aim,- that these things were sometimes sold; of
course. most men .know that they are sometimes
sold, and I have heard the same; 1 might say, I
can pro Cure you a_person for it.
W." this the first transaction of the kind you have
been engaged in ?--.yea,
Did ever in my life.
you concetve it was a transaCtion which, 'in
its nature, it was necessary to keep secret ?...-Ldid
not cancel, e there was the least impropriety hrr the
transaction, otherwise than, if it could be traced
!hat a Director received money for it, it would be
rproper
i but I -did not consider it improper or
legal for any other person to receive money for it.
"id )00 give Mr. Woodford any security for the
money
Is it usual for you, in transadions of that amount, .
• to
make engagemeuts for which you give no security
whatever ?—lt depends entirely upon the opinion
014 one party has of another.
Was it a Bengal Wiitership 2—Yes.
Did .you know Mr. Smith, or. ever seeltim ?
Never till this traosadion ; I saw the yoUng man
once or twice then, or ihreelar tour times.
D. you know in what degree he was related CO
11,1 r. L I—l believe lie is some relation, but I,
cannot say what.
What was the next transadion of a siniilar kind
in which you Wercengaged with Mi. Woodford ?
It was a trair.aNion of the same nature.
When and ee har. Was ,t hat transaction ?—With re-
gard to the time I Hifi rather at a loss, but I think it:
was early' in the year 1808.
State the particulars of that, trausaoiou as far as
you recollect ,thein?—Mr.-WOodford stated to Inc
that 4,6 had another WtitershiP ,at his cennuati(l,
and that he would be glad it I would dispose of it.
A Bengal 'Writersliip ?--Yes; I told him I would;
I thiukl he stated to me that the money was to be
applied for some por relation, or something in that
kind of way.
A pbor relation of his own ?-a-Yes t Mr. Wood.
ford at all titnea disclaimed receiving any part of this
money tor himself. I mentioned the circatnitance
to -IvAtisfs, Austin and Manacle, who are Army
. Agents atm. Bankers in Henrietta-street, Covent.-
, Carden, and. they gave me (it was by learn I think)
a recornmtlubtion to -Mr. Donovan, stating him
•;to be a friend of theirs, and a Gentleman of great
"respectability. I took this letter to Mr. Doutmvaa,
sad the tiegociatiou for this Writership, with Mr.
Donovan, was three thousand guitteas, which he
-*greed to give ; it was mutually: agreed that 'the
:money should be deposited, and it was deposited
lit Austin '.aud Maultde'as but when we 'carsse to
the.depotnt of the money, it appeared that thecae
thousand five, hundred guineas were to be deposit.
V, which WAS *.e, than the sum I bad asked;
Mr. Donovan stating 'to me that he had procured
itve hundred guineas more, and that lie 'should re-
IY upOn me, as'. a man of honour, to give him that
five hundred guineas When the mangy came to
~my
- which .1 promised to do).
, ,V% hat names was that money deposited?--I
navdty know, upon my word.
'our VatliC mutt have been Otte believe it

veal; ahcl Useliove a friend d the Gentleman ;. I- do
not recalled the Gentleman's name; Bale or:Birale;
it Was depOiited in ,bit and my joint names.
'DO you knoW its Whit Month that Wes S--I really.
Cannot say. .
, .
.
Your's must have been one of the names ?un-
cloubledly ; I think I can almost Venture to say it
was; I think I made it conditiott that mine should
be. I received the money of them afterwards.
Was there any written agreement relating to this
sum of money ?—None, except the receipt when
the money was paid by Austin and Monocle.
By whom was it deposited was deposited.
by a Gentleman whose name was included in- the
receipt with Mine ; 1 think his name was Beale.
At What time was this money placed to your ac,
mint ?-The money was paid ; .1 keep no account
at Austin and Mauncle's.
At what time was it paid to you by then) ?—I
cannot state the month exactly ; I think in• June or
July.
Upon what contingenty ?—tTpon the Writership
being obtained.
For whom ?--For a Geatleinan of the name Of
Magniac.
Had you any acquaintance with that gentleman ?
Was he recommended by Mr. Donovan ?—Mr.
Beale,,was the gentleman to whom I was recom-
Mended by Mr. Dotiovan, or rather introduced by
I..Xitiovan.
Did your transaalons relative to this appointment
pass with Mr. Beak, or coniinue through Mr. Do-
novan ?—I had communications with stile. Beale ;
whether I satk' Mr. Donovan aftor.the money was
deposited I really cannot say;. I might sea him otice
or !wive.
Where does Mr. Beale live ?—He did live then in
Fitzroy-square.
What was his situation in life ?—I do not,knew ;
he appeared, to tile to be a Gentleman of very great
respeelahilit v.
Did he state Mr. Magniac to hen relation of his
—I think he 'did; but I cannot speak as to that
point.
Did you tranitaa with him the terms upon which
appointment Was. to be procured ?—No ; that was
arranged by Mr. Donovan.
Had you any interview with Mr. Beale than at
the time you went with him to see ih,. money de-
visited, or the checqee drawn 1-4 never saw Mr.
Beale till that time ; I saw him -afterwards.
To whop di i you piw, t his money i—l paid Mr.
Donovan the five hundred guineas; that I pledged
myself to do.
• What did you pay to Mr. Woodford paid him
a short time afier the tratn.attion Wool.- I think ii
was Mr. Weodibid gave me to understand that he
Slioutd make ne a cmpliment of the 1501. ; three.
thousand (lineal; was the amount, and he bege:ed
WO to accept of tent and t paid hint t owl. shortly
atterviards ; the remainder of the money lay in my
hands a very considerable time ; I am indented to
Mr. Woodford a small s..in at this moment.
Is the stn of idol. L.e whole which you either
received or expect to receive for your concerns iu
this transai;tion ?—.Toe whole.
Del yea mention it to any other person but Austin
and Monocle ?..;-No.
Dia you ever hear the name of Sir Walter James
introduced into ti.is business ?—I am not sure whe-
ther Mr. Woodford mentioned his name; .1 think
be did.
Did you know that it was agreed that the recOns-
mtodation should be stated as having come froth
him ?--Upon my word I hardly knew whether it
was or not; I recollect something of the name of
Sir Walter James now it is Mc:attuned, but it, had
not occurred to me.
Do you know that it was stated that Mr. Mag.
niac was in fad recommended by. Sir Walter James?
think I recollea sonaethlng of the name of Sir
Walter James being ,mentioned by Mr. Wocxlforti,
and I think it might 'go ,to that, but I cannot say po-
,
Did you never mention to Mr. Woodford, that
Mr. Donovan had been at all employed in the trans-
- action ?—No.
'ln what way did you represent to Mr. Woodford,
that the negotiation with Mr. ,Neale had been brought
about did not mention to him any way ; I had ,
nothing to do but to negotiate the thing.
Did you never state tet him with whom it was ne-
gotiated le—No.
Did he ever, ask yon who was to be his paymaster ?
^7Mr. _Woodford was 'thoroughly satisfied with me,
1 believe. Mr. Woodfotti and myself had repeated
communication on other matters besides this. •
Yob never stated to Mr. Woodford, and lie never
knew, with whom you were negotiating, and for
whom the place was to be obtained ?—I really be-
lieve never.
;. Did not yon report to 'WOOtiford, that th 6
price was ro be three thousand five hundred guineas.
instead of three thousand t did not..
Did you sar•tei' Mr% Woodford, three. thotOnd
guineas„ioc three. thousand five handredl--Three
;
thousand..
Was Mr. Donovan .present when the motte)*,wets
deposited ?-B.` es.
With Mr. Beale ?ea:lege
•' Mr. Woodford was not there ?—No.
Did Mr. Woodford everask you since bow much
was gained for that Writership ?—No..
Then you think Mr.' Woodford may still imagine
that three thousand guineas was the whole sum that
was obtained certainly.' .
Did Mr. Donovan desire you to keep the sum
Which was to be paid. a ',secret from Mr.' Beale, as
well as from Mr. Woodford ?—No, he did slot desire
either the one or the other.
Did you make any stipulations with Mr. Dorm-
van, as to the quelifications et cite person who MIS
'become the purchaser of this Writenship ?--No
Mr. Donovan stated to me, that he was a young
malt remarkably well calculated for an appointrnent
of that kind ; that he understood the Persian lan-
guage, and I understood so from Mr. Beale.
You accepted him uppn the presentation of Mr.
Donovan ? I considered,- of course, he would Hut
be accepted by theeCompally if he wee not fit.
You accepted Mr. Magniac-upon the represents-.
lion of Mr. Donovan ?-e-Yom, I certainly did ; I had
very strong recommendation frotis teen,. that I had
en opinion of, to Mr. Donovan.
Mr. WOodford 4tlited, it was to be sold for a poor
relation, and denied that: it exas,kr his own benefit.?
--Yes.•
For whom-was the seat In Parliam4it 171 thlnk.

bb eistd to tore info tirlitment 'I nu
• . gt .-• ;,!
expr 44 • 1
jell-. lie denied the money being for hits pelf.
Money's worth Was for hituseit; the gessit 4
Parliarnent eiiiinot take me.M say it was
for himself, lie expi-esied deilrous of Parill•••
mentsry interest.
• Do you knoW at Whik Mile Mr. Magniie was in
troduced to Mr. *Woodford ?-•-,1-fe was never iiiti
aimed to Mr. Woodford to my knowledge.
Was the name of Mr. magiliac g4Fe'n by you to
Mr. Woodford

Did Mr. Woodford inform you that he bad triaie
any inquiries as to Mr. Magniac's fitness and. suf-
ficiency ?-7-No, I dO not know that he did; I un-
der,tood from Mr. Beale that he was well qualified
for the Situation, particularly so.

IT4 As tap:thud.)

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THE SUN.

110 S AN! QUI! •4LIUM AttAIIAT ?

ZONDO.N,
TURSDAY., APRIL 11, 1809.

We stopped the Press yesterday to infortd our
!leaders that .a telegriphic displtch hid been recoil!•
ed at the Admiralty announcing the Surrender of
Fort Bourbon, which was communicated in the fol-
lowing letter to the LORD MASIDR, which we reprint,
as it was only in part of our impression

" Admiralty-Office, Monday, Two o'Clock.
. " Lord AlutqnsvE has the honour to
acquaint the LORD MAYOR, that a Telegraphic
Cotninunication from Plymouth just received, an-
nounces the Surrender of .Martinique."
The details of the surrender had not been received
by Government this day when our Paper was put to
press, but they are exile led every hour ; and we
trust that we shall soon have the pleasure of com-
municating them to the Public.

An Otticer arrived this mottling at Lotd CASTLII7.
RICAGIeII Office with Dispatches crow. Lisboa ; but
as he left that place on the 23d ult. the intelligence
he brings is ndt of so late a date as that which had
previousiy been received,

ARTHUR WELLE3LEY bad been prevented from
flailing with. the Expedition yesterdaY, from Ports-
mouth, by adverse winds.
• •

We are this day enabled to by before our Readers
some furthet details from_ Portugal, but they do not
Contain any In...wise information respeaing thr, pro-
gress the french had made. After the death of Ge-
neral Fatetts, the command of the Portuguese Art or
in that quarter was given to General gtli 14, who
*36 attacked by the French on the t B'th, near Braga
after an aefion which-lasted a considerable time, and
in which the Portuguese troops behaved .with great .
courav, the French were repulsed with consider-
able loss. General Bator, however, did not find
himself in sufficient force to maintain his pOsition
agititist the. French, :who were continually receiving
reinforcements, and therefore 'retreated towards
Oporto, and the French advanced (awards that City.
It 'does not appear that-they hed entered it, and we
trust that from the efforts, which have been made to
improve the fortifications of that- place, it will be
able to make some reilstance.• of the private
Letters state that the Governor and Chief Officers of
OPorto.had been arrested for carrying on a treason-
•.
able correspondence with the French.

Yesterday morning her Royal Highness the Prin.
calm Vmmtx.orre of NVALEs paid a visit to
Doeliess of Bittli4swttlx, at her seat at Blackheath.
Another Atherican Ship, the liunter, has broken.
the Embargo and arrived at .Preennek on the 7th
inst. atter a passage of 34 days. from St. Mary's.
She was laden with cotton.
Mr, WAT.L.Wit has fat yet been appointed to sue-
cee4 Sir AitTlitikt Kr.t.itsr.y.T as Chief Secretary to
thee Lard Lieutenant of Irtianda.. but ,We .have no'
doubt that the appointment will immediately take
place. • ,
On Sunday morning Mr. SC}TAW, 0114 on Sunday
evening Mr. Scof(King's Messengers) were sent off
to Portsmouth, with dispatches. for Sir ART}I,UR
NYAILLSALRY j and Mr. MAJOR, another of hit Ma-
jesty's ,Messungers, was under orders last night, foa
the same destination.