The Sun.
London, England, 1822-05-16 00:00:00

PRICESEVENPENCg.

other was' much worse--the ea-pence Of injustice being dctie .
by, partial measures 'adopted.: to favour particular intereasi
He (Mr. Briaitgham).*as -minor those who thought that if ad*
other Means could hot be- found, fhr -cokrecting the evils cont. . •
plitined of, it might be inlvisatle 'to 'pay. • Magistrates- *Ara-
than- that precticeS like those now complained of should ceinets*
to be prevalent. He hoped what ire had •to bring -befnrelfo
House -Would lead to a correction of those which hb.d occtlittst
in a particular district. •He would not name the counsji
to which he referred, but would. now proceed to malettlis
House acquaint4tvrith a letter which ha had received. In tie
letter it wiz -.stated- that when a person .in that county -apa
plied fora licenat.•, for a public .11i:else, he was asked whothek.
he took in any, and what newspaper, although the applisratione;
was founded on the requisite certificates (signed by the Chute/ • .
wardens and others) before' his licence could be granted. - J 1
the applicant answered by saying thathesock in a pszticular.
paper (whije.h was specified; but lee should not then, mention is)
which VMS hOStiIC to the present Government, ills licentie way •
not renewed.• This had occurred in 'one of the midland coffins'
ties. He knew that the same practice had. prevailed in
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counties nearer to the North, and. if a few more of them cacti>
to his knowledge, he should feel it to he his duty to submit to
tha,House. a specific inotiori,on the subject —The Petition wan
then read, and ordered to lit turtle table.-
A Message frorer the Lords requested a copy of the Reportat
of the Select Coinmitteee on the Administration of Justice in
Wales. The Messengers Were informed that the House would
return an answer to the message of their Lordships by Mes-
sengers of its own..
lONIAN ISLANIIS.
Mr. HUME gave ziotice, that on the east supply day, either
on the motion for the Speaker's leaving the Chair, or in the
Committee, as should bemost agreeable to the Chancellor of
the Exchequer, he would move for the reduction of the In-
spectors of the lonian Militia.
THIRD CLASS OF THE "CIVIL LIST.
Mr. LENNARD, in rising to submit a proposition to the
Hope, that a Select Committee should be apeeointed to inquire
into the expenditure cf the third branch of the Civil List, said
he would make but One observation to secure the attention of
the House, which was this, that he proposed' to trespass on
them but with a few general statements, and then leave the.
question to be disposed of accordiru to its merits.. The
present mot-tient wag admitted to ji^ one of great
dis-
tress, and of overwheimizsg difficulty, Economy was called
for by all classes, and the call had been made even from the,
-Throne itself. Without economy public credit could not be
maintained, for as Mr. Burke had said, " Credit cannot exist
under necessity. Credit and necessity are naturally at vs ri-
awe, and cannot be reconciled under any circumstances." If •
the distress were admitted, and the necessity for retrenchment,
he thought it must also be conceded that in no part of our en-
pendittue could such profusion be found as-existed in this de-.
partment of the Civil List, and therefore nothing could more
properly be made the subject of an inquiry. Since lie gave
notice at the beginning of the Session of a motion for an
Address to the Kihg, praying his Majesty to reduce the Civil
List, a partial reduction bad been effected—he alluded to tre.: •
reduction in the personal expences of the SoveZeign, and the •
reduction of ten per tent. or: salaries. This circumstance ins,
duced him to limo: hispresent motion to the third class of the
-Civil List. He thought he-should have no difficulty in seeds.- -
fying the House that whatever degree of state it might formerly
be necessary to keep up in • foreign countries, it was not (lest.
table that more should now be rmintained than was absolute-.
ly necessary. He could not but express his dissatisfaction at
the want of sincerity evinced by Ministers when they spoke of •
retrenchment. It was impossible for the House not to see
that greater reductions might have been effected without in-
jury to the dignity, and even without injury to that which was
now so much talked about—te influence of the Crown. it
was the opinion of some of these whom he bad consulted, that
after the sacrifice Voluntarily made by the King; it wotild be
ungracious at the preSent moment to call for more. He bowed.
to this opinion, though he did not altogether con;ur in it, and
thought if the present distress continued, and he feared that it
Would increase, tinit more would be necessary. He however
consented to postpone his general motion for the present, in the
hope that before the eoinmericement of another Session Mini-
sters would see the necessity of effecting a further reduction •
with respect to. the Royal Household, the Great °Picas of
State, and the pension list lie could not for a moment suppo::,e
that the heart of his Majesty was not deeply affected; they '
• hnew that it was, from• the speeches addressed to them from
the Throne on the subject of those calamities which had fallen
gn the people, certainly not through their own misconduct.—
He need not recal to the recollection of the House that at the
commencement of the present Scssidn the Crown had recom-
Mended etonornv to them in the most decided terms. That
recominendlitioz; had not been followed. up by the framers of
it, who, on the contrary, had come with statements that no re.
lief could be afforded by any measure of economy that caul.'
•be adopted. It would be seen by the vote of that night whether
such was the opinion of that House. He believed that many in the country had been much surpris,-1..4 the shifts and ex-
pedients 'r
which had been resorted to in order to-guard againit-
retrenchment approaching the "Great °raters of State and the
Foreign Ambatsadors, except in the in .anCe of the trifling
reduction of ten per tent. which had-beer, made. The Civil • .
List had at various times been -altered in Consequence' of the
altered value of Money. The expressions used by Mr. Pitt in
1792, on an occasion of the kind, were so remarkable that he
must beg leave toequote them to-Mr. Pitt said, " the prophsi.
tion.then brought forward had not for its object the advahed-
ment of the Civil List., He had no disposition to add ttithie
existing establishments, but the advance which had taken place -
in the price of all the articles of lift, which every Gentleman
felt in his private arrangements made an increase necessary.ne.
It was -not proposed to add to the quauttun of meonificenee
which had been thought necessary for the So creme( Or-the
Great Officers of the State." It was admitted in a Lite repott
that our present financial arrangements ought to be founded on
those of 'I7W2, when the prices of things were higher . than at
present, and the means of the country were greater. It the
alteraion which had lately been
.made in the velue of rnor,
made no difference to our Ambassadors abroad, it made a . -
terial difference to us, end affected our means of paying :hale
In that branch of the Civil List . which he had brought unose -
the consideration of the House a vast expense was =arrest.
which had nothing to do. with the personel comfort of the Feee-
reign. The sums so appropriated were of nn use hitt to er.:..t,lc
Ministers to purchase the venal services-of those who were
posed to sell themselves to their views. He should. pethert.
be met with the statement that any thing that could thus he
saved would be but as a drop of water in the nee, and that it
would fall in with those retrenchments which the Chateelier of
the Exchequer had said could afford the country no pacer title • -
relief. Admitting this to be true, he would still coritenu tteit
the moral effect which they would, however, prod-ace :host
prove highly important, as it would cheer the people with the
hope that they were really sincere in their profs: lions of-en:they
to diminish those burdens which were at present so geneinliy
felt. The Civil List, he begged to remind -the
been thignented in various ways, in 'some instances by pen. •
tive additions, in others by being relieve.; from chargdae
which it had formerly borne. NI; itli restiect to the the Leh
class in the third brahch of the Civil List, rt was the, as ne
had already stated, that a reduction To the =film; of tene
per cent. had taken plate ; but it was to he rernerntered, tea,
that some sources of revenue were purpeseiy kept bcot
account of the. Civil List;- he alluded to the setsehuen Of
the ,Duchy of Cornwall, those' of the .frachy of Lanchrtan •
and the nroits of Admiralty. These ought, in his
all.to be brought forward, so that it might be seen hew they
were applied. For the second class; wris net •.o
see, at, e slightest glance, that the sums ellewca for dee Fees-at --
Household could not be consumed hut in pereuisites of , ,
or in the most unnecessary profaeic . • Ttii!
to-be altered, and on looking over it. they mast Iqe (het it :
tained the names of many who were not in that situatiya
made it at all necessary that they should receive money fiem (tic.
public. The third class, to which he would particularly &ire&
tne attention of the -.Holier, was very fertile in expenisr. _ snre-
bassatlors were now kept, not only at ail the great Coutte'esi'
Europe, but at those which could only be regal-tied as sittehitds
to one or other of the Great Pdweis forming the Holy ALL:we. •
One appointment of this description was so recent, that general
attention now rested -.on it. IC he succeeded in getting the-ap-
pointinent of a Committee to inquire into thelhital branch of
the Cinil List, he hoped he should be able to snow,' th.add a'Switzerland fell in the locale Of -Eunofe,.it was nonneeeesary
add to the importance of our Representative these, by seheir4:
an Ambassador at twenty times the c-tpe lee fornlelly•ltlcarct4
by our-Re-Sider-h. - hi point'
sia Ls one of the •
wont a)hoirentents that could be L'alt:.tittc.ticto of e e• .
Peculiar kif.ci attoehP.d to. in trired th the
House with more force and,pferslela.,ci:7 ttay. •
mand, -by Hon. Friend who tad given noticeCr a .• •
the etibjeCt,. and he Cher fart rains-est-1y alritained: &CA .