The Sun.
London, England, 1809-02-08 00:00:00

CAPT. SANI)E'N'S EXAMINATION.

Q. What interest had. the witness in Colonel
French's levy ?—A. I wit's concerned With' hint in
the lee y.
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Q. In what say, and to what extent ?—A. The
letter of service %vas gii,en to us both. To Colonel
Rrnch anti Captain .Sat tden.
• Q. Dues he know Mrs. Clarke ?—A. I do.
Q. Did l,e or Colonel French apFly ti) .& r tirr her
infloonc&, lit ordet'that they' Might GaVe the iesy
We were told, in the first instance, that it was a
person or great influence with a leading person in
the 'kingdom. We did not know at'the moment it
was Mrs. Clarke.
U. What passed before they discovered the persOn
alluded to was Mts. Clarke ?—A. They did not know
it was Mts. Clarke, till after they had obtained the
letter Of service
Q. Who., gave witness The 'information that took
him to Mrs. Clarke ?—A. Mr. Cot:1(.1)11e, my atior-
yey, 110 bold urn iethere was anything at the War-
Office or the Duke of York's Office, which I was
solicitous about, he wind reeolumend me to a per-
son who would be of service to me.
Q. OW he 'recommend him to. Mrs. Clarke ?-7
A., To her age t,
Who ?-4. A music-master of the,name of
Corti.
Q. Through the means of Mr. Corti, had be an
intervkw with Mrs. Clarke ?—A, 140;11 know.
Q. flan lie ever an interview with iNirs. Clar.Ee ?
—A. Yes; a tong thine' Ann-.
Q. Flow long k month or' Mo.
0,. What pa.ed bet'A'een Witness and Mrs. Clarke
.on that interview ?--4. Nothing, the busine'ss was
all settled belbre that.
Q. For what purpote then had .he the interview ?
--A. Mrs. Clarke Oished to see me.
Q.:-What passed on that occasion ?--A. Co;onel
Relich asked we t0..,'g0 with bun fo the agent ; I did
not know
.wh,,ilwr.inale. or terntik. On my ii-rivat
at GlcnCester-place, to my
.surprise I found it to be
a female. .
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Q. Rid Colonel "French seed "Mrs. Clarke before ?
A.saiLedly.
Q. ELLA he seen her before the letter of service
was granted?---A, I believe not,
Q. What Passed on this occasion I can't re-
colleet.

Q. What was the substance of tile conversation. ?
--A. A mere inttoduction—this is Captain Sandell,
and that is Mrs. Ck rke.
Q. Was the levy spoken Of ?—A. I cannot say
it was mentioned.
Q. Was it not mentioned. ?—A. I cannot say it
was not mentioned.

Q. Of your own knowledge had the'levy been
mentioned before ?—A. I cannot say. Colonel
French bad seen the person, but did not tell on%
Q. Who was that person ?—A. I did not know
till I had the pleasure of seeing Mis, Clarke. ,
Q. State the way in wh;ch The business was set.
tied between Mrs. Clarke, Colonel Freach, and 601.
—,A. Colonel Menet) and Mrs. Clalke wade the
ogreerneor, I was nut erhy to it.
Q. What passed hkween C,,lonel French and
witness ?—A. Of course we wished ty get the levy
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and letter•of service.

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• Q. What means were taken to get the dtter.of
uer` icn ?_,,k I uri&rotood'frOM COl. French, that he
was give a stn of money tor it. ,
What'paised bet Ween ColOnel French and him
on that subject ?—A. \‘'Vhen I saw hint, he' told me
its

befQrelitated, th t every thiligAvas

CI• WI
t were the terms ?—A. 501) guineas.
Q. What further ?—A. I undurstand that was.all
that was to be given.
Q. Was that the-Only agreeMent .1 cannot
say what passed between Colonel' Fi criic i an.i'Mf-s.
Clarke. 'That was the only one I ktic,.w uf. "
Q. Did kvitnesS 'any agreement 'with Nits.
Cluke
Q. Is tn. not Jtynre or any other bargain but that
of the' Sou guineas ?—A. Not preoous to C.J,unel
French's grAng to Irbland. Before.tits'aepartur t, he'
told ate, if Mts. Clarke wanted money to let her
haven.
`Q. To .what amount ?—A. As far as .5, 6, or

Q. Was there .any application roa(le to the Com-
Mauder in Chief tor any its the letterui ser.
Lvile ?—A. There %vote warty alicrations iirAe ; the
!I'lountyll6reed uit 0-. is 13 guibeal per ; the re.
erkiiting service soon alter ro,r to 1!) •,tutloas. •We
though( ourselvtis eritii Led to that, .114.1 appitcd to till.:
%;ommander itt Clii6laccordio6iy.

Q. 'The witness means, that the other rzeruiting
parties'were'alloWed 1,9 guibeaS, and his only 13 ?---
A Of course. - k .
' Q. Anti that lie did nor get the IJH TtineaS till he'
. ,• applied to Mrs. Clarke ?..-A.' Alt the recruiting i-n-
-;' ties'were in the sao,e situation:
' Gi. To .whom did' lie apply to get the surf' rAis.'d ?
L-A. To lietm Commander in Chief-of course. °1
i • Q. Then he did not apply, on that occasion, '4o
Mrs. Clarke I—A. There was no occasion fur it.
Q. Did he ever apply to
,Mrs. Clarke on any other
occasion ? -LA: I dohtiroeoi:l( lle - .
. ' Q. As to boys ?—A. You bring to my recollec-
tion that ten boys were allowed to every fiundred
men at the same bounty.—The letter of service will
! itiform you more particularly.
Q. -Dues he mean to state thatpo alteration as to'
boys was made after the letter of service %vas granted ?
A. I have mentionedal, the tircunistancearespect-
ing the boys. •
U.. Was that done through the influence of Mrs.
Clarke '?—A. I cannot say, Colonel French finished
the whole transaction.'
I . Q.Did he ever go to the Commander in. Chief. in
consequence of a message
Hof Mrs. Clarke, to Lyon's,
I • Inn?-L.A. I do not recollect ever doing so.
Q. Does 'he recoiled any Gentleman bringing
1 such a message I—A. I do not reColled. •
Q. Does he know Mr, Dowler ?-'2-A. I have met
(' Mrs.
him at Clarke's. ..
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Q. What passed on that occasion ?--A. Nothing.
Q. Did he ever see him at chambers ?—A. Never.
`,• Q. Did he ever go to tho Duke of York in con_
sequence of any message ?—A. I never saw the
Commander in Chief but once in my life, when I
went to thank hiM for granting the levy:
Q. What 'sums of money has he paid to Mrs.
Clarke ?—.A.. From 8001. to 8501. at various times.
Q. Did he ever, give a check on .Grant for :++ool.
payable Corti on'account of the levy ?—A. I re-
coiled vet), well giving:eool. (not ai check) to Mr.
Corti, as the aBent from Mrs. Clatke, to Mr.
'Cockaylie; it ''tillB on hiS own account, not for Mrs.
'Clarke.

Q, Does,he know of any loan from Col. French
of hOOOl. never knew Col. French to be
worth .wolf- in the world, and cannoosuppose any
thing of this kind. We•have lost by the levy, and
'owe the agent now 38001.
Q. He dues not recoiled this loan then ?—A. Cer-
tainly not.

Q. state'whether the 8501. arose out of
an agreement to pay so much per man ?—A. It was.
part of a 'general . sum. lf theievy .we
were to poy 20001. toAlrg. Clarke; it failed there
ct was no ~plith'iigrnient, It and she was.
the only gainer b) the business.

To ,further questions, put by several Members,
Captain Sanden stated that he paid Mrs. C. in Batik
Notes, .and twver more titan 5.1001. at a tune; that.
Mr.,Dowier ;fever called on him at Lyon's Inn ; and
that, he never said to him that Mrs.:C. was over
paid, and he could, give her no money at that time.
The original bargain was 5251. to Mrs, Clarke, and
2001. to Cord, the former stud to be increased at his
discretion, if they were suecesstul, to 20901. Mr.
Corri was' riot made acquainted: with what they
Wanted with Mrs. Clarke, but was promised 2001.
for the introduction. Cockayne was his attorney,
and spoken to by Corti. .He had:Seen Mrs. Clarke
fifty times after the'leVy was put iii progress. •
\Vas any direct aPplication wade to the Duke of
York to grant the letter service )—A.; •Certainly ;
an application 'was regularly tutid, and: tide matter
passed regularly through the Office, He then 'stated,
in answer to other questions, that though he was of
opinion that Mr;: Ciarke h i t no intleetice (from the
length of the time of obtaining the letter of service
after they applied) yet he was indnced to pay her,
Money in coMpliance with the desire of Colonel
,French, who wished to try the experiment. He
He did not think their .request would have been re.
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fused, but merely applied to Mrs. Clat•ke to facilitate
the levy, 'Prat Mrs. Clarke deSired particularly
that thcbusidess should be kept 'secret, and had ne-
ver told him she had informed the Duke of York
di the circumstances; on (116 contrary, wished it
kept from him and all theiworld.
Mr. Cord was then called in and examined.
By Mr. W nt.e.-....Dues the witness know Cole-
pel French and Capt. ,4inden Only Capt. San,
den. I never, vaw Col. French.
04 Does he recollect introducing Capt. Sanden to
Mrs., Clarkt: ?-7.-A, I never introduced him. He in-
rtroduee
Did.
d khe- witness give Captain Sanden such
direOtions, as would enable him 'to introduce ilirrle
ith advantage to Mrs: Clarke -Quite. the
contrary,
Q., Of his own knoWledec i.td he know the con•
sequcnees of (.7ititain Sanden's going to Mrs. Clarke
let.

Q. What were tli;3. Captaili Sanden -wa4
intriodueed. to me by Mr. Cocknyne, who told him
that tknew a Lady win.) possessed influence in Hie
Ciptaia Sanden said, ha would give!
2C".';l, for her (13aiitOOCC. r I would hpeilk
to n Or! the Subject, which L did. She answevd,
tl t could du the business, but tli:it it W3s a very
di ticult matter, and that she could recommend only
persotis of character.

Q.. Does the witness know any thing more of the
4:trween Mts. Clarke, -Colonel- French, And
Capt. Sanden Cain:l:n Sanden said, the Duke
of serewt‘i itun down,very hard,
Did he hear any 'more They sad a little
among, aong thei,:nie,ve, .1 heard no "more,/ 'etrept
in June- i 804, :when. i-WtiS at Ate Caution -Catke7
twiaseiiiiitli-wa? brought me froiti Capt.Samicti tot
2001. I put my,narne .upon. it, and gave it to Mr.
Coa.arie,_tellitig him that I .was much obliged to
him, ir,cl that he had better keep it. ,
Q I.,fe witness know nothing further of.
the barg,,-, i—A. Nothing tridrc. No more busi-
ness of any sort passed. between Mrs% Clarke and
me, ilicept my mush:—qa lough.) • ,
Q. Has the witness, since this business has been
before the House of Commons, destroyed any •pa-
pers )—A. I. destroyed smile .in July 1804, One
day I went to Mrs, Clarke ; she told•me she %las
just coming to tile to tt4l tue, that there was a terrible
noise about the business between her and :Colonel
French, and that the Duke of York was very angry
at t..e circumstance. She desiredlne to destroy ad
the 11,1pers ( °tweeted with the subject, which 1,e0n-
&.-quently dia. • .

Itis the wiines3 &strop:Al any pareri since
t 1 voiucuctnient of. ti prcieln proceedings

bad notice. I haVe four !Wad in my pocket from
Mrs, Clarke, received stern; the Ist ot January List.
At the time when Mrs. Clarke, told we to destroy
thO papers, I was very, torich terrified,' anti imme-
diarely burnt- them.
(By Mr. Lerruirost)---,,Were the letters which the
winie,,s received since the rst ot January, of a siroi.,
lar purport to those which he cestroyed ?—A:' Oki
, no; they were invitations to dinner.
Q. Has Mrs. Clarke ever stated to the witness the
Duke of York's-opinion upon that transaaion
Never.
Q. When Mrs.. Clarke said the Duke of York
was apgry, did she speakgenerally, or did she state
particularly at what he was indignant ?-,-A. She told
me at the. time that the Duke of York was watched
so closely' by Colonel .Gordon, and that she was
watched so closely by mr:Geteu wood, that she could
scarcely contrive to get any I h laugh.) ,
(By Mr. Baar4sl ortra.)—What papers did the wit-:1
ness destroy They were of little consequence.;
Mrs. Clarke begged for God's sake that I would de-
stroy them, and my wile, who was present, went
home and burnt them. I was tery much terrified,
for Mrs. Clarke told me I should perhaps be brOught
to the place where I have now the'honour to be.
-.Did Mrs. Clarke state to the witness, that the
Duke of York suspected. her correspondence with
Colonel French and • Captain Sande') ; and that it
was her fear of a discovery; that rendered her de- ,
sirous he should destroy tee papers When
saw Mrs. Chake, her carriage was 'at the' door, and
She was jut going to Exiisington 'Gardens! She
had. only trine to beg that I would destroy the
papers.
(By Mr. CaokPa), The witness has said, that
after pitting his -name on the Bill for cooL which
he received trout, CaPt. Sanden he' gave it to Mr.
Cocka) ne. Dees he mean to bay that he received
no reniuneration or reward for Ins services, between
Mrs. Clarke and Captain Sander) ?—A. Nude what-
ever, not one shilling.
What induced the witness to put his name on
the bill Because. Mr. Cockayne told me it was
payable to my order.
Q. Did the witness owe Mr. Coekayne any
moony Yes. I had an account open with
Mr. Cockayne iron' r 802. to 180, and there was
not a penny upon the Credit side but these 2001,
Q.. What Nvai.the immediate obligation or consi-
deration which induced the witness'to give him the
bill Its the first place, I thought he was en-
titled to half of I begged him, hoever, to.kee,p
the whole; he did, and said, this is a great act of
.generoSity, in you,.
,Mr. Corti:!
U. Did Mr. Cockayne get. the money for that
bill I know .nothing about it ; be wrote. me a
letter to thank me for toy liberality.
(By Mr..SneatnAti.)7,-I1 the letter's destroyed by
the witne,s, did Mrs. CI at lie taw esi any apprehen--,
sion lest the Doke should know t but pasSed between
her, Colonel French, and Captain Sandell ?—A: She
was; very much alarmed, atr4 said. the Duke was very
angty._.

TY. The witness hag itued:that he bad seen Mrs.
Claike twice since.-the Ist ut Janwiry, What coil-
versatioil has lir had with ih;r resi,eCting this trans-
action ?—A. I SaW Ci4dixi die 6th and on the
1511).. Soon after dinner on the tit O, two Gentlemen
camp in, ;Ind when they entered', subject Was
introduced; I abietied that rs. Clarke had re-
.ceived -5901. i Mid that,. to my knoWledge, •Ntr.
,Coatayue had received 2001: Willett I had given up
tO hint.. At this they itil,lauAlied at rue.
Q. Did Mit Ctarke assio-eny reason for intro-
ducknethe .titjc:ct,on t.h. entrathx of the two Gen-
tlemen ?—A. No.

Q. Did Mrs. • Clarke allude.to any similar trans.
saian before those two Gentlemen ?—A., Nn 'he
evening way spent'eanvivially, and at twelve o'en....k
I left the two Gentlemen drinking' With Mrs.'
Clarke.

Q. Does the witness know who those Genilernen
were O the dth of . Janu3gy Mrs. Clarke
asked me if I cluld gtwss what one was. 1 t,airt
Lawyer--at which they were much amused. On
the ilk Ohre told me.

Q. 'Were the sante Gentlemen present on both
.days One wa:; a littltrone, with a iong noic,
believe he was ; the other vas hot.
Q. 'Who' did Mrs. Clarke say thn other. Gentle-
man was I—A. she told we, as a secret, that.it was
Mr. -Mtllkh, the. Member, who, I suppwe, is now
in this House: (.;fiartgii)
Q. Does the witness know thenaine of the other
Gentleman 'do nut ; but I could describe his
lignre: My sight:is detective, or I should not be
6nrprised if I were to see hint here too. (4' Ana
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CI Was any other perion pre iont ? :vat on
the Oth. On the 14th there was a persoi, who
Mrs.', Clarke told me was a Writer. to a Newspaper.
She `nientiono his tiame to nie, alai' the name of
the papet with which he wax conneeted bat have
forgotten-both. She told ate 1a was to take care of
her. - - •

Dist he seem acquainted with the other Gen-
tleman I—A. Yes : he shook hands with Mr.Mellish.
. Mr. Corri ‘rati. then ordered to st ithdral,v.
Mr. MELLISH, who. Ivid entered the House since
his uat-ne bad „bQuo ..tnentiuticd by the last witti,.ss,
rose to express his hope that some Hon. Gentleman
would put the question to Trim: cot the subjea,:
• Mr. Wmtlet,e, fort the purpose of .gratifying the
Hon. Gentleman,- asked hiin, whether he h.id net
with, Mr. Corti at Mrs. Clarhe!s on the 6th or tf..th
of ,JanuarY last ?
Mr..MaLtasu declared that he had•never been at
Mrs..Clarlie's house in his Mei and the first time he
had seen her was, at the bar of that Rome. He
wished the last witness alight be recalled, that he
might state whether or. tiot -he had seenitim in the
instance alluded ti

Mr. Corri.mas accordingly ag'aio called in , and
on being asked whether C. MersiSh was. the Gen.
datum. whom he had'scen at Mts. Clarke's,: he ro.-
plied that he -was not. Tio Geotleman .whorn he
saw was of a darker complc.:xion ; that in calling
1114 Gentleman !Vim Mellish, he h:Rd merely repeat-
ed what had been said to hito by Mrs. Clarke, and
that it .she had told him a lie, .he could not help it.
(ATTOLINEi-G2A 21.1 A r.) —Can die witness de.
scribe the third -perstm, the Yewspaper.rnati,' whom
-he Raw ill Mrs. Clarke's 1-41:. He was of Wilalloiv
Conirdexiun, hriti .11 high forehead, um! wits rather
ugly ; his' hair was (tark ;' he badly=dre-ssd ..ho
.not appear like' an kluglislicaria„ and. was by no
many tlegainit his=rneeithl

Q. (fly Mr. B4n?stootto.) rfid he scitat I
am not positive; it he dint, tipint 11.1vv •qui:ied to
the left, for I was_ Oa svl.c.; add did wit
perceive it.
Q. 4iVas :'lot his name Finnerty ?—A. I do noi
knOw I don't. recollect his name; I have.
bad memory for names. He iold me that he t :id
travelled a grew, deal, 1;00611a:1;its AlCca and .6
'speaking of .music, he ex pfeEse I his ;.zu'itality to
Scotch.

Q. Did he wear his arm in a sling ?—A. No.
• Q. Was he not a Writer for the :Mos uil); Chro-
nicle ?.--LA. He was a Writer for either the Morni;iq
Chronitile, the TiMes; or the Post, I den't remem-
ber which.
Q. (By Mr. StiearpAtst.) Did
,the witness hear
any one Call that Arson by the name of Finnerty
A. No. - •
Q. Is he acquainted with the person of Mr. Yin-
'. nerty ?—A. lam not. The name
.of him to NV 4041
I allude seemed to be foreign.,
.The next witness, caller-4' to the Bar 'Was M.
DOWLER his' examinati64 was to the follow tog
effeet
(by Mr. WAttine.)-4ias the, witness seen Mr..
Cockayne lately have not. I only returned
from the Continent on Thnrsday last.
ilas he known Mrs. Clarke- long ?—A. For years.
Q. How many Eight or nine.
Q. Does• the witness recollect ever having seen
Colt /trench and 'Capt. Sanden at Gioncester.pliac.:
while Mrs. Clarke was under the protection at t
his
Duke of York •
Q. Did the witness ever hear eitherof those Gen.
tletnen speak to Mrs. Clarke on the subject or riwir
levy'?—A. Yes. •
Q. Did you ever converse with Colonel Frchch or
Ciptahr Sander) on that subject, ny
Mrs. Clarke haVe conversed on the
several times.
Q, What was the nature of these conversations ?
-A. 1 5.3 W Coloncl French at Mrs. Clarke's hones,
And was informed that he w.s•there on the Subjeti
o.* a Letter of Service. For cut ipsii) iti sake I asked
Mrs. Clarke the nature ofltis business, and learning
it, told her I highly disapproved of it, and endea-
'loured to dissuade her from a perseverance in that
and similar plans.
Q. Did any thing pass between.the witness and
Colonel French that morning 1.7. A,
saw Col. French several times ~tier that.
Q. What was the suki= e(it of the•witnes•i's con-
versation with him Mrs, Clarketeld me th;tt
she. was to receive one thousand guineas, and a
guinea for each man, until the levy of SQO Men
should be coMpletecL 1 was also present when
'Colonel French or Captdin Sanden, I don't know
witich,, gave Mrs. Cl:rrke
.6001, Qt. it. I att.'l:-
'l;vards saw ColonerFrench at Airs. Clarke's, %% hen
he stated to her that it ‘vaiiatot possioie tk.)
cure the number of men at the usual bounty, and
begged that the numberiel boys should be incr.,•••
ed in the levy, which, as I understood, was aft,:
wards done. •,
(4, 'When the witness remonstrated against Mrs,
Clarke's conduct, what anowr did she snake
What• causes did she -7-A. She said tiie;
Duke of York was so tor, money tit
she could 'not bear to ask hint for any, and thia
that was'• the only way by whicn s,re c 01.1.1 sup.
port her establishment. . She was at my rc-
nionBtrapce, andin consequence I did not,
hear trein her until my departute.to South
in 180 G.
Q. (By Lord For,F,,s.poivc.) Is not the WitaOSS
the Commissariat ?•-•-••.A. I am,
U. How long has he been so ?—A. Sin.
year 1805. •

Q. How did he obtain his commission I—A, I
purchased it of Mrs. Clarke.:
1.1. Did' the witness apply dire Elly to Mrs. Clarke,
for the amiointrnent Certainly not. She, silo.-
0
gested it to me.
6. Did you give her any pecuni:iry reenmpence ?
—A: In thQ fast placer 10001. ; and iit other
different sums of money to a large amourit.
Q. Did you at.the same time make a dire ,'.l arid
regiihr application to any person in oflice ?--.A.
"To no one.

Q. You are positive as to that fact ?—A. positive:
Q. In What department of Government is the
presentation to the situation which you hold veste(l
—A. In the Treasury.
Q. At what,time, and in what m mner o.c
WittleS3 proptne to Mrs. Clarke that ihe
her influence for the purpoSe of ,ohtaining ;;,-
, potntrnent ?—A. It' was shem
Who aw. tne propu.l.
tion to me.

Q. What passed on the occasion ?—A. She ,:tatt-1
'that.she was. -extremely pressed for money, awl re.
guested that I .would fts4iit, her, as the Duke of
1"otk WM not pundnal , his'pziyinents. I applied
to my lather in consequenc.r: he hesitated. I told
Mrs. Clarke I could nut furnish her with .more
thacwhich she had iiirehdy reCtiVed tiolll tilt.', ShC
then proposed to obtain for rue a Situation, but t}or
tint which I now hold. My fatln at first wOuld
not consent; bat atker many mouths lit acqui edo.
on my. confidently assuring him that the loaner
would nut become public.
CI. Did' the 'Witness never -make an appfleat;,:qt
in another manner ; and how was the .11p 1.)o
thent communicated to him ?--A. I never
to any other person ; Mrs. Clarke told me I 51i06:4
'be appointed sooner 'by much than I t.va, ;' and
stated, that the mison of the delay- Mr.
Langley, of the loth regiment of Dragoons, muit
first bt•Gazetted.
Q. Might not he have made a regular apilioat:,,t),
through the medinin of hiS owe friends C
'tartly he did not.

Q.
Q (Hy Mr. litifiKlSB(?Ni. Noes the vvitne:is
erilleet the date "iii`: his cornmw,,..catith, r,i4t ;
eVirittvon this subjeti ?---A. I enitiot con-, ,
The first conversation ilt.t I had wit it 11,...r
to the situkativn of a Conitnissione.r
but that was set aside, because tilt. ws%
6 a
given to Mr. A.. 11; Mr, Pites slie
then r-!cetntnended a situation in the enruni.4..an t,
which 'she .represented as alive and gentlenhudY
office.

Q, What Was the date of the witness'; first coo-
'mission from the Treasury ?—A. j thiuk About .icue
or Jell 1805.

Ct. Did the witness understand trom Alrs. Chu 1:c
that she made a.dired styptic:limo to any 1;er;,•„,
the: Tronetvrt.

•
cluqtions wPre put to the witness
i,I) tesiki `to tho Lords`of tin. 'Treasury who signed
corun)lision, &c..none.OtlWhich 'he could answer

flecolle6tion.
the*witnes;.give money to
,Mr S. Clarke
ut4'er t ht., belief that he Was to be reconimended to
the Treasury by the
.Duke olYork Certainly.
Q. Did (he witness ct.nverse',i.vitb any individual
Who the meaty; Of corumnnicating with the
Lord or any other person in tin, Treasury on
iAject,' of his expeEtations up to the time_ when
lac went to 111r.-Vernon, to take out his Com-,
?--A. Never. 'Not even to Mr:Vern:on

•
O. Then the witness saw Mr. Vernon' befOre
Coinini6.sion was nwde out ?-;—A. Yes, I knew

him.
Q.-Between the time of his having paid the pre-'
mium Clarke, ~and of his having aBually re-
coived the CommissiOn,' did he receive any informa-
tarn frotunany person in the TreaSory 'that his ex-
p liatiorts would be favciurably entertained ?—A.
-Vernon said to me one Morning, that he be-
lieved I was-going. to be appointed Assistant Cum-
tnissiny that the proper domments had been exc.
eUted, and that he had no doubt but that the appoint-

. ;Twin would take place.
Q. '(Ily Mr. Wttcrattesn).When Mr; Vernon
notified' to the witness • his app)intmet!t, in what
yt..; us did ,he make that notific.iition, and was it ver- '
lid in writing Verbally.. He said to me,
" I believe yolt are going to 4e appointed."
Q. From whose hands did 'the witness aanally
receive the. Wai-rant. of his appointment —41.„ I be,
• lieve from Mr. Vil-non.•, There were some fees to
pay, but I ain not sore whether those fees Were. paid
by myself, air by a friend: _
11)cs the witness.recollea if -he received his
*arrant in any letter trout Mr. Vernon i—A. I be
not.
(BY Alderman COMBE).—Q. From 'the time that
the witness, receivod.his appointment to the present
moment, has he ever ascribed the acquisition Wit
to any other agent than. Mrs. Clarke I have
always studiously avoided ascribing it to Mrs.
Clarke.
Q. Did not the witness's father represent in the
city the same Ward of which Sir BrookeWat.sou
wai Alderman ?—A. He did.
..• Q. Does' the witness recollect a conversation
which ii`e had with me in Coventry-street, at the
top of the, Haymarket, soon after his appointment ?'
I recollect seeing Mr; Combe, but I do not •
recollea what occurred.
Q. Does the witness recollea that I congratulated
him on his apppointment ; that I told hilt.). I had.
heard he had obtained it through the interest of Mrs.
Clarke, hut that I expressed my hope it Was-by that
of Sir Brooke Watsmil—A. I recollect only the
'congratulation.
(By Mr. SITETiIDAN)•. The witness says that
''.he warmly remonstrated with Mrs. Clarke 'on the
danger to which she exposed herself by her negel-
ceition with Colonel French and Captain' Sande!).
Did Mrs. Clarke endeavour to allay his apprehen-
. slops on her accowit by any intimation that. the
Duke of--York was privy to her taking money*?—
A. I' cannot say- what conversation passed,' .except
that Mrs. aarke- was very much offended 'with the
liberty th.tt I took.
(.4, If from respea for Mrs. Clarke's clutraaer
l"e remonstrated against her condvai in 1804, why
clad he hirtutelf, in I 805', bribe her with 10001. •to
obtain art office for ?—A. Becanse she was.in
great pecuniary distress, and because the mride of
obtaining the ,appOintMent remained a secret in
iy breast, which nothing 'hut-such- a -circumstance
as ;his Could ever have Maw n from me..
(I,Tho I am to understand that the Witness's
retrizaistrance was not against the impropriety- of the
act, ,bot on account of the risk of discovery ?—A4For.
both reasons.

(fly Mr. BOerrx).-!--Q. What was the occupa-
Coo of .tlw ittiess previous to his appointment'
Gluinn,Saiat ?—A, some time without any
o_ctniatit?n ; my father's liberality •rendered it mle-
cobs:it-y.lw to have any particular occupation.
\V as` not wanes, a stock-broker in London ?
I did exercise for sonic time the occupation of
n stock-broke; ; but in CUlliegliCliCj or my stotain-
nig a great dal of losses by several failures, and
particulaily by the witure of a .Mr. Solomon, my fa-
ther advi,ed me to quit the business.
• Was it inconscquenceut labouring under pe-
culdiry embarra.strrnus in 'the Alley that the wit-
ess relinquished his oeonpatiOn ?—A. I certainly la-
boured tuPtW. thc: embarrassment in consequeLce of
the rea4Otts already stated.
(;;y Mr. l'ElicAvni-).—Did witness settle all (IV-,
I( I cocci that :nose in the course of his businesi be-
tole he qtlitiod the Alley ?—A. I paid the last slid-
Iji,gthat was in my possession, but several debis
• ~:`due to roe., rikidarly.4,oool. by Mr. Solo-
n which of ei;urse disabled me from discharging
• dOt1)011tIfi
Di I iip()',V. Mrs. Clarke 'before lie left.
ti•e 4\114' 1 co tainly
Q witnesS lc,.nd Mrs. Clarke any money
-be-
fore iie left the All.r.y ?-7A. I did not.
Q. TO wliA in.-60mA did wittier afterwards give
ril..ney to Mts. Qlarke 1 first gave her 'Awl.
anti ;mei ‘vards $OOl. .
a: when did witness arrive 40111 Portugal ?
.A Thursday latit,;
ciDid witness see 'Nits. Clarke soon after his
Tel tun Ycst •
• NVIIO was in company with,her yciapg
U. What the conversatiun that passo upon
•t:.at 64:L.:tAon Aniong other topics I lamented
the unhappy hittitioil lit tvltich she' Was placed with
tesvx-t to the Billie tot' York, and'expressed 3 stn-
c:ere w I should taut be called to give any evidence
• '

ut) the subjetSr.
Dig, tAit,te4s give apy motley to Mill. Clarke,
f.inte 1/4t,ics apdointed Commissariat ?—A. 1 cannot

olleer. .
(Dy Mr. 11. AnnlNc.moN) Did witness re
wiwiher Sir Brouke Watson supported his
ihtrrelit at the Treasury i—A. Not to my know-

Q, (By Sir A. PtczoT) Did witrit!As always repre-
sent Mrs, alike as the auti.or of his appointment ?
.—A. titevvr
GI, if ,evrr tillt Sir Brooke Watson
wai the tuezlis of the appointment,

•
was it possible for him to have forgot it
think, if 1 had ever expressed myself to that eftTet
1 would not have forgotten it.
Mr. CALCRAFT, addressing hirnself,tO Mr.l7lus-
kisson, wished to be informed of the usual itiOde
of issuing Cornmisspriat Commissions ?
• Mr. 'HUSKPiSCIN, after a few words from Mr..
Rose and Lord H, Petty, on the propriety of the
question, expressed his readiness to give every in-
Nrrnation on this subjea.' 'Sometimes applications
were made to the First Lord of the Treasury, some-
times to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and some,

tirnes to the Secretary, who usually kept memo-
Tauclums of thetas; till after due deliberation the ap-
pointments were filled up. He did not
,know that
there was such a person as the witness pn the staff,.
till he appeared beforeohe Committee this evening.
But he belieVe4 that finding his tame on the half..
'pay 11.1, after his return from Buenos Ayres, the
witness was appointed to the situation he held ;it,
Portugal, withqut any inquiry being made respea7

ing his title to such an appointment,
Mr. SIUIiGES BOUONE could not recolle6 that
ever any recon►inendtttion appeared to behalf of the
witness, nor had he the most distant conception
of the manner by which he. originally„obtained his
commission.

• Mr. liosmssorr pledged himself, that before the
subject Was again brought before the Committee,
lie would make himsellacquainted, with all the cir-.
cumstances attending the appointment of. the wit
ness, a far as they cntild be colleded froth any papers
to 9 which he had access.
• .Mr. WARnLE felt himself 'so much exhausted and
fatigued in the prosecution .of the business he had:
underta,ken, that he hoped the Committee would
be disposed, tspecially as it was sO near the hour
at twelve, when the
,day appointed for a General
comaincicl, to come to an immediate adjourn-
ment.
_ _

Mr. BIiC)WAL • disapproved the adjournment, on
the ground of the importance of the charges, and
that they ought not to hang in a .state of suspense,
over the head of the Illustrious Personage against
Whom they were preferred.
. Sir T. TuaTos thought it indecorous in the Com-
mittee to proeeed any tUrther this eight, after the •
solemn declaration the Honourable Gentleman (Mr.
Wardle) had made of his unfitness,. from excess of
• Mr. CROKER wished to know whether it would
Materially 'disarrange the `Hon. Gentleman's (Mr.
Wardle) plan of procedure'to call in Mrs. Clarke ?
No answer being given, the Hon. Gentleman added,
that he would try and prevail on. the Committee to
examine that Lady immediately.
'Mr. GRANT was then' called in and examined re-
lative. to his knowledge Df the transactions of Col.
French. and Cant, Sanden, in regard to the levy.,
He was examined by Mr. Wardle, and his testi-
mony went to spew, that the letter of. service was
procured through the medium of, Mrs. Clarke, but
denied hearing either of these; Gentlemen say any
thing relative to the 50001. being promised to be
given to the Duke of York as soon as the arrears
due"tp the levy would be paid by Government. He
believed Mrs'. Clarke had received one way or other
about 17001. on account of the levy.
Mr. PeltgEVAI, way clearly of opinion that Mrs.
Clarke should itnmirAiately be called in and examin-
.
ed, for it was on her evidence alone that these
Charges rested; and it was by her examination that
either the truth or the foliehood of the' case was
be!discovered, and he trusted if justice and truth
--were the great ends which the Hon. Gentleman
Or. Wardle) had in view, he would accede to this
proposition.
Mr. WARoLF. declared he bad no other -motive
or 'objeet whatever in view, -and would therefore
most readiiv agree to the immediate examinatian of

•
Mrs. Clarke ."r"
!"..
. The Chairman then ordered Mary Ann Clarke to
be called in.
Mrs. Clarke • being accommodated with a chair,
said, that she had been waiting in an adjoining
room for eight hours,,and therefore felt herself so
exhausted in body and mind, as to be unable to give
any evidence.—On'the cry of adjown, adtoern,'
Mr. Ynakn felt it his duty to state to the Com-
mittee, that evert sort of intercourse between tle
witness (Mrs. ClAke) and the preceding witness
ought. to bci cut off, and for that purpose be would
move the Celmilittee.tp commit her to the ctistody
of the Setjeant at .Arms,' till she is brought up again -
for exaMinatien.
Lord Histgas• PUTTY thought,. the witness ought
to be indulged in her application, on the ground
of her statement. ,
Mr. WAtiotz and Mr. Rosa wished the exami-
nation of the witness to proceed.
The SPEAKER was of-opinion that the Committee
had a right to use, even in this case, which he be-
lieved had no parallel in the,History of the House of
CoMmons, a discretionary power, and not to leave.
it to the choice of the witness to be examined or not.
Mr. So eainArt thought, that if the witness was
really indisposed, as she stated, that she ought not
to hi compelled to, give her evidence. .
Mr. WARM% read 3 note which he received from
Mrs. Clarke, wherein :she reguested of him to go
and see how unable she Was: to give any testimony
tb!s-evening.
Mt. CROKIIt believed -a communication had at
ready taken pee between Mrs. Clarke and the other
witnesses ; and, therefore, strongly urged the Corn-
mittee 16 proceed to her examination:
Dili. ADA :41 dehied that to examine her under the
circumstances of the case, would answer the great
ends of public justice,. and therefore hoped the Com-,
'lnittee would defer her examination.
Mr. CANNING perfedly agteed with the Honour-
able Gentleman who spoke last, in respea that the
end of public justice would not be se well answered
in examining her 'in her present state of mind, yet
:he-thohght it proper telput a.-question or two to her,
coda to ascertain it she- had any 'communication
-with any of the other witnesses, and especially with
'the last. L -
Mr. WHereasetb signified a wish that she Wipulti
not be examined in any shape thisevening.
After some otm,iivations between Mr. CANNING,
Mr,'CIIOKEII, and Mr. WIIITIMEAD, on the, sugges-
tion of Mr. CANNING, Mr..Dowler was again called
in and was interrogated by Mr. PaticivAL, if he-had
any interview since his exatnination with Mrs.
Clarke. To which the witness (Mr.'Dowler) re-

Martiett.c.nur.

plied, that be had certainly seen and spoken to her,
and had drank a glass' of wine with her; and in an-
.swer to a. question from her, as to the Members who
had examined him,, he replied that he did not know
them, but that he did not ditiulp to her any part of
his examination. It was then agreed to resume Mrs.
Clarke's examination on Thursday..
Adioorded at Half-past One.

MAILS.
ARK VID -1 Due-11 GOttelibUrAil.

TET k SU N.

*MAW QUIS DICttAI FALSUM AUtIItAT ?

LONDON,

,

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 1809.-

An account has been received' at the Admiralty,
that the Ahaable Frigate l►av captured a large Ftench
Corvette with 200 men on board, and a large quan-
tity of flour and • ammunition. She 'was bound for
Martinique, and Was going north about.

As some pprehensi on s seem to have been enter.
tained that it was intended to introduce new restric-
tions on the Press; in consequence of the extreme
licentiousness:which have marked some late Publica-
tions, it is with great satisfa6tion we state, that the
Loan CIittNCELLOR declared last night in the House
of Lordslihat he conceived the existing Laws were
sufficient • to correta abuse, and that farther regula-
tions' might be... injurious to the just rights of
gnglishnien.

It was stated in a Paper pf this morning, that Sir
C. COTTON had received orders to go ,to the Me-
diterranean, to take the command of the Fleet, in
the room of Lord COLLIN G WOOD, who4jt was added,
was coining tome.. We are enabled to state posi.-
tiiely that there is no foundation fur this report.—
Lord COLLINGWOOD is certainly not about to <pit Ws
command in the Mediterranean.., •

A Cabinet Cotincil was held 'yesterday afternoon,
which was fully attended.
. Flis MAJESTY has been pleased to appoint CHAS.
OAKELEY, Esq. to be His Majesty's Secretary of
Legation to-the United States of America. .
The KING has. conferred the honour of Knight-
hood on Doctor CHRISTOPHER ROBINSON, his Ma-
jesty's Advocate General.
Such British troops as had been sent up the court,.
try have all returned to Lisbon, with the exception
of one regiment, the 40th, which has been ordered
to march from Elvas, and to proceed along the coast
of Seville, to which place the road was clear of the
enemy. • Lord HOLLAND left Lisbm on Saturday,.
the 21st. ult.. for Seville, having crossed the river
with hissuite, intending to take the advantage of
the escort of this regiment..

A meeting of the Merchants interested •in the
trade to the Brazils has been recently held, at which
the
,f3hairrnan reported many important objeas ob-
tained on both sides of the water, by which their
future conduct in this extensive concern is to be re-
gulated.
TlfettireCtors of the South Sea Company have
liberally consented to empower his Majesty's
msters to grant at Rio de Janeiro the Company's li-
cences, which are to be so constructed in their ope-
ration; as to secure the general proteCtion of the trade
to S.butli Atherica.
His Majesty's Ministers have ordered the duties
on the exportation of all property belonging to the
subjects of Portugal, warehoused Great Britain,
to be taken otf.
A new tariff has been agreed upon at Rio de Ja-
n61'6,4106 conSiderably teduCes the valuation on
which goods of British 'manufatture paid duty in the
ports of Brazil, which it is undeistood will be retro-,
spfiCtiVe. •
A warehousing system, on. a principle similar to
our own, is in contemplation, as well as several
other • measures of importance, calculated 'in every
respeCt for placing the future commercial intercourse
with that country on the most liberal and respectable
footing.
The whole of the regulations, it is fully under-
stood, are embraced by Lord STRAN,GFOAD, in,the
Treaty which he was negociating with the Prince
Regent.
- - - -

•
It is stated in a Morning Paper,, that Mr. Charles
Farquhar, brother of the celebrated Mrs. Clatke,
heretofore known by the appellation Of Captain C;
F. Thompson, of the 59th regiment, was, last night,
arrested tor a long tailor's bill, at the door of the
House of Commons, in Palace-yard, by Dietrichsen
and Clark,- of Raihbone-place. The arrest took
plaCe at the door of his sister's cLarfot, in which
(after Mrs. Clarke had got out) the sOi-disunt Cap-
lain, and \Yawn, the Sheriff's otlicer, drose away
together. •
, .
FRPEDOM•OI, TM: PRES4.—In consequence of a
circular. letter, about fifty persons assembled yester-
day at the. Crown and Anchor Tavern, Strand, in
'Order to take into consideration the propriety of
forming an institution for suppnrting the Liberty
of the Press. Few, persons of respedability
ap-
peared to be present. A well known democratic
, orator came forward with a string of Resolutions,
which were absurd and•nugatory, an:l as it did not
appear that any measures were cowing forward likely
to restrain the liberty of the press, or that if there
were, such characters were. likely to avert the evil,
the meeting, which was one of the most insignifi-
cant that ever assembled on. .a similar occasion, (twin-
\died away without any formal conclusion. .

TREATItE.—A new Farce; entitled Is lie a
Nina? was last night brought for ward at the Hay-
market Theatre. It is a translation troth the French,
by a Mr, GREFUL/113,,W110 translated the Farce of
!'he Portrait if Cervantes, AS represented last sea-
son at Covent-Gsrden Theatre. The piece of last
night is too light for regular critici4m, but it is ren-
dered so entertatning hS FAwoarr and LISTON, that
it vk ill probatbiy become very popular.