The Sun.
London, England, 1813-02-01 00:00:00

POPERY.

•
Remarks on the conequences which -must re-
sult from the concession Of the Catholic Claims,
extracted from the postcript to the Margaret Pro-
fessor's Letter to the Rev I). Gandolphy, Priest
of the Catholic Church, London
" I will embrace also else present opportunity,
when the Church, of England has " so much at
stake," of expressing the opinion which, after the
most mature reflection, I entertain of tike conse-
quences which would, result from the concession
of the claims now urged by the members of your
Church. I icknowledge, agreeably to the prin-
ciples maintained in the precerting letter, that the
Legislature, as' such, has nothing to do with the
question, whether your religion be true or false.
No vote, either of the Himse of Lords, or of the
House of Commons, can decide the.purelY theolo-
gical questions, 'whether.there be two, dr whether
'there he seven sacraments, whether the .consecra-
tion of bread at the Lord's Supper converts, or
converts it not, into a different substance. But it
is the business of the ,Legislatnre to determine,
whether the religion which a man professes Ten-.
ders him, or renders him not, a good subject of
the State, It is the busine.ss of the Legislature
to determine, whether the teligion which a man
professes renders him prope,!•-, or improper, to he
trusted with offices of civil government. No nu-
' thorny should interfere to. prevent a man from.
worshipping God in that irliy which his cottscienee
prescribes to him. is a natural right, whieh
no obligation of ei yil Society can cancel. But it
a contradiction to say, that the right to politiial
power 'is it naturel right. The right to political
power can he derived only from political rela—
t ions, whielt again in this country are dependent;
more or less, npon religion. If the religion-,Thiel
aimp professes renders him less ifttaehed time
anotier to the constitution of thl, ' countid.. the
former must be less qualified , thatethe let r, to
administer that constitirtioa. NOw the constitu-
time of this country is a compound at Church and
State ; and we know, as welt front experieuce as
from theory, that the one cannot be endangered
without endangering the other. But atli melt,
without exception, who di.tfer from the establish-
ed religion, must in their hearts be desirous of
new modelling that religion according to their
own' opinions; and though prurience may repress',
their exertions, while they possess not the nteans
of obtaining their end's, yet as soon as a change
of circumstances • his furnished them with the
power of opposition to the Establishment, that
power will he exerted against it. In this respect
there is no difference between Dissentients of one
kind, and Dissentients of another; .an Anti-epis-
eopelian Protestant must be arleerse to our epis-
copal establishment, as well as those who tree at-
tached to the religion of Rome : and it is a fetal,
mistake to suppose; that, because a Protestant
Dissenter has nota foreigner for the bead Of his
own church, 'he has therefore no temptation to
Overturn the established Church, But they who
do not acknowledge a foieigeer for Abe bead of
their church, are certainly much leis fitted to be
trusted with political power, because their elle-
giance is divided •between the Sovereign a their
etneary, and a foreign authority,' to which -by
the very tenets a their religion they are hound
to pay implicit obedience. it is true, that this
obedienee ratites immediately and.dii'ectlye to
spi-
ritual concerns, while they are ready. to acknow-
ledge the authority of their Sovereige in every
thing, which relates to temporal matters. But
when allegiance is divided, let the distinctions be
ever so nicely marked, it is impossible, that men
should be as good subjects, as. if their allegiance
were concentred in their ,Sovereign alone. And
however nicely the distinction between temporal
and spiritual aethority may be marked in theory,
yet in practice, the boundaries will soon be
Overleaped, and the authority Which cOmmends
the eonscience, will command the conduct of the
man.

" Don't mistake, Sir, my meaning*, and repre-
sent me as sayilig, that the Catholics in this
country are not good Subjects.. l mean no such
thing : I speak only by come.)rison t I assert only,
that their religion preyents them from being so
good, and so useful, subjects (il the state,: as the
members of the Establisiunekt , or as they would
lit themselves; if they becamentenikers of the Es,
Mblishment. I 'readily 'acknowledge that they
lionstitete, a respectable. and loyal body that they
pare attached to their Sovereign and to their cOmi-
try. But their best intentioes, roust be 'perpetu-
ally be checked by the intervention of- thet exter-
nal allegiance. The strength of that allegiance)
and the warmth still excited by the object of it
the hearts of his true disciples, yan yourself, Sir,
have displayed by exhibiting the Pope at the
head of your Pamphlet. In short, that external
allegiance, when added to the desire, which all
b,ksentitrits posiess, of mak ingtheir own the es.
tahlished religioo, gives anew impulse, so power-
ful in its, own operations, and so easily directed by
foreign intrigue to purposes subversive of our con-
stitution, that the guidance of oar Constitution
cannot safely he entrnsted to ,those who prOfesie
such allegiance.
" Under these circumstances the consequences
are obvious, which must result to tite Established,
Church, if the present demands of the. Roman
Catholics he conceded,' These demands, which
are 30 imperiously urged, all in the very mode of
preferring) them to excite alarm; extend to the
unqualified repeal of every law, which affectsqheir
civil disabilities, We are not concerned with a
queseion of religious, toleratiOn, which they al-
reedy enjoy .to itSt tell extent ; they Can exdreise
their -religious Worship, and publish their religi-
MIS opinions, without reproach or interruption
from the members of the Establishment; they may
edecate their children without reserve in their own
opinions, and have even the benefit of au exten-
sive seminary supported at the public expence.-
But they now requ;re a participation of politiesl
power in all, respects equal with that which is
enjoyed by the members of time Establishment,
'Now, if this equal participation be granted to
those, who profess the Runtish religion, the lame
equal participation must a fortiori be granted to
the Protestaut Dissenters. But when the making
and the administering of the lawn :in this counts y

shall he equally extended to all religious patties,
it is easy to foresee, that the homairs and emolu-
ments, which are now
.exclitsively enjoyed by the
ministers of the E:qablisheti-Church, but which
all partios are equally desirou-. of obtainingovould
then be demanded by all parties and as those
demands would then be urged by the weight of
political power, we should no hmger be able to
resist. The Established Church therefore would
fall ; for, as Dr. Paley observes in his chapter on.
Religious EstablishmentS,---" If the provision,
which the laws assign to the support of religion,
be.extended to various sects and denomiwitions of
Christians, there exists no national religion, or
I.4";stablished Church," 'Whether any other na-
tional religion, 01.. what national religion %voulil
finally arise out Of such a political and ecclesiatt-
cal chaos, it is unnecessary at present to examine.
It is sufficient to know, that the present Est ablisb-
mem wooldte•destroyed.-"

MR. LEE'S PAMPI4LnI,
(Continued from cur List.)

" Besides, what -is the comparative Ow]
commercial knowledgein all its hearings 111 w,:;
then. .Wherefore -ii the cconduct of cr,
holden up to the resent. Governmeat?
p
aS i'h.kNitutple to be 41Ioptei in.eiterY
publie policy Certainly not. The
to I udiii, at the periods of
.its unsuccessim
alluded to by the Coludaov, bad not only WI
Pete with a rival monopoly at home, hat slo%
powerful rivals abroad, to whom fOreiga
lent the means and .countenance, the
dable and, effectual in their power to grant%
ford. lathe present era na rival state eeoti
forcing or excluding -a well -judged entploYgg,
British' capital in Indian commerce exkis*.
admitting that.tbe facts and arguments 'l.OlO
by the Company, are believed by them
to bear upon the question, and that theyeto
convinced of their force and upplieatiP"'
follow that the Company's conviction, af'old
it may be, is also,to hethe conviction of Oleo
commercial mind of the
British Empirel.
fluenced now by. official obsequiousavo, ;
are honest men, the chairs must blob 64K'
when they re-peruse the wordy arrogance°/
fuming reasoning ; if they reason not 1.10100,,
conviction, but prank their false rules in re,il.•
garb, the British merchants will, One 1;-i'
strip these budge doctors of commerce, itto
them of their theatrical stuffing, and
world their lean and lank pretemioni tool,oA
tional credence for sound fundamental Visv„to
upon- trading questions, or for sincerity'ing their
opinions upon topics cantle
them. • -te

Lord Melville, however, does not,s
a convert to these their axioms. rit'
doubts many of theta, has not allowed
be settled as to others, and sonic be I
jects ; but in Lord Melville's reply to t
nal persuasive there is one sentence
worth attending to, since it sbews
of their reasoning, if that be pith."
thing, adopted by the chairs in this tl
His Lordship says, A considerable
their reasoning would lead to the infer
general proposition applicable to all ell
reign and distant trade, that a' monopolY
beneficial' to both countries than an un
commerce.' • .

'" The old, stale, and, in a public !whit
the Most offensive- argoment, as to the
competition, is resorted ,to by. the Choirs
Words; " 1f the Indian trade were thro"
ships would at first, swsrm into,
would be a minims competition in toe,
both abroad and' at home,.. 'Goods sou'
baneful in cost there, as well as (tc"ril:,
(piality•; the .selling price at home, 11'1"
reduced still lower, and the Hon..;
stocked." But •these gratis dicta are eq.
every purpose but that of the (*Eli", Who
to estimate or comprehend the 1;
effects of competitionn-upon the ulrilati:r,
out:
atth e
t.hlemdjotlimpeyanyshouldrepresenttie
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their counnercial or' matinfacturr`l`

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three seamen }whinging to the
gate, Cupt. Fyffe, wei., returnii!ii.h„n, 11131
from Portsea Ilard, wlrcri one of
Macdonald, rapped a man,
iwb° he saPP-°51'13.
(ter saying
n'vvaterman, upon the shoulder,
" Give us a put on hoard."
to be a Spaniard, who sharply a''!,o
Spanish language, what ,he wanted.
lot
'Macdonold's .hip-mates, Who Itflnll
The Spaniard, however, without
or provocation, eollared•Maedonald,
Spanish language, answered '4
him in two places with a knife, w•
from his bosom, and then ran away•
seamen stayed by the wounded mini
others. pursued the Spaniard toward
.but could not tindlinn. Macdonald
board the indelatigaide's hulk, where
tnane,,Lni‘ I'4El
of his wounds. Lioutenant Scott, I
inunediately after MacOonatti was tak,
reimired to the Spanish Crigate'lphige
of Aiaecionald's companions, and J
reached 'her, a Spaniard, nalued Lucas
along ide in a wherry, who wls..insta
with hieing the murderer i and which
other companion, the net morn'tair,
Spaniards harell
asthe parties necessary
witnesses
hut, upon the depositim‘lc.ltlestshees c
-s;
bidefatigob/e-,and the Iwo seamen 01
verdict of ifvvi, Murder has heen.reti
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