The Sun.
London, England, 1814-11-25 00:00:00

,:.harAtter as to the gronuds of proposed legi,lativc
It xvas stated then, that the barony of

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:Mich!let bird, brittle county of Tipperary, was
State of tranquillity;-nut only so, but that the
adioining baronies were in the Sallie state. On
th:s fact he differed- -widely tremt what had been
s.ni:etl; and be could adduce evidence to skew
their Lordships that it -.was an erroneous state-
ment. The Right Hon. Gentleman seemed for.;
gt-tful of several proceedings (not Q 1 a very Iran-
cni natnre) which took place almost at the very,
nonnentsto which he had! referred.. That on the
Ist of Nos'ember, the residence. of Mr. Prender-
gast-, a place within-14 Miles of Cashel, the head-
q out ers Of the Magistracy, was broke open by a
banditti, plundered of money, plate,. incl apparel, -
tt, ft great amount), and that the robbers remained
in the house from seven till ten o'clock. That
within only four miles'of Cashel, the Kim.(s Mail-
cOach was stopped by the road being barraeadoed,
stepped and firc-41-at„.by Which two persons were
Severely tvounded. These circumstances must
have escaped the Right Honourable -Gentleman's,
recollection, while he was describing that -quarter
to he in a state of tranquillity. He then referred
to -the commission of certain outrages in the
s:nne (platter, for the perpetrators' of which a
re,vatti of 1001. had been offered. He also stated.,
that- on Sunday the- 13th, at. Dangan,
a _search had been tnade for arms, a place within
five miles of Cashel, a military carbine was found
loaded tinder a mart's bed. .0o the next-day, two
guns, a biltilderbUSS a case of pistols, and a sword
were lwrid, and all this within. a few miles of the
place where the Magistrates under -the Bill were
stationed. The system pursued under the Bill by
the Irish Government, in the mode of .selecting
Peace or Police Officers was censured. .and toe
Conduct of certaiwor the appointed Allgistracy
lanced at by the- Noble Earl. The only attempt
'nude at pacifying the country had been foiled ;
and the Conduct of Government with rispeet to
the measures, was neither wise nor lenient ; the
measure which appeared to him to be one of seve-
-rity was kept, while that which was rather a le-
meat tneastire was partly abandoned. In another-
point of view., he argued, that the measures re-
t t,ined. were those which involved patronage.
while those which provided a salutary degree of
punishment were 'relaxed: The Noble Earl then
casually adverted to what had •been the policy of
the Irish Governments during the Rebellion, and
'descanted the provisions of the Information Bill,
which be seemed to regard as wise and politic.—
Certain parts of the domestic system of Govern-
ment-iii Ireland were. contemned by him as bki "7'
riot's, as the Mode •of -appointing the High She-
*riffs, which in that country was an alike of pa-
tillnage, and much sought for. The High
had there the nomination of the Grand
=-nodes, who *in certain • cases • have, in lreland,'
the' power of taxation ; and the selection was
seldom made in. a way beneficial to the coon-
He depi-ecated the recent pt aetice of
seining over yonng inexperienced. men, who*
knew nothing of the country, to fill Mini-
ste7lid Offices Of high trust and importance in
Ireland. Men who wsre* used to the affairs of
that country, old stagers in business, shookl be
preferred. The conduct ant! administration of the
revenue in Ireland w,as- not what lie approved ;
this wits a' subject of Which he should know not a
little, 'having been !Ong in a high department of
the revenue
.of that country, and at' which he
worked hard. In fine, the present systern,of Go-
vernuient 'of- this country WAS. one-that called for
amelioration ;, and lie particularly urged, that
persons-of a very different* description. should be
selected for its Chief Ministers. His Lordship
-concluded with' moving to the following purport
That. there he laid before - the haute Ciipies of Conanuni,
cations made by tile Chief Seeretaiy to the Lord I,i,:!ntenant
of Ireland, winch authorised a notification to Parliament'of
"tis.c cis fete restoration of tranquillity of Ireland; and on
which it was deemed not necessary farther to apply the mea-
sures adopted in the last Session of Parliament, ac.

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Lard SIDMOUTH said, that be could make no
observations on the speech of the Noble-Earl, ass
the motion was not one which could be enter,
,teined by the House.
The L) :n CHANCELLOR said, that they had no
.Chief Secretary for Ireland in that House,, and the
Illation was not one upon which the question
could he put,
The earl 1)11.d VERPOOL suggested that the mo-
tion should he put in a different shape, and
Lord DONOUGHMORE agreed to do this inmate-
diatelv.
Lord DoNouGumonE then offered his motion in
n more formal shape.
Lord Si DMOUTII COUld not consider the motion,
however corrected, as consistent %vitt:. thtir Lord-
ships' proceedings ; but since it come before the
house, lie must F(ay that the Noble Lords state-
ments • were totally different from those which
come oilicially to Government. lle,intist, there-
.fore, Ii VC WlSCOneei ; lie was doubtless in-
capahl of misrepresenting the facts ; but the ac-
curacy of ,tat. Noble Lord, in tht; general state-
reeeive sonic illustration from his,
:accuracy in dates. Oa this question, when lie came-
Alown Witliall his materials in their best preparation,
lie had made a mistake of not less :hall three weeks
iodic date of the principal measure. 'rile Act was en-
lofted for the first time., not on the. 24th of Sept,
but on the Gib of that month. From this the rest
;might be in some djgree inferted. As to the two
:Mns, Government had preferred that' which was
,actually the mildest, and its results were fortn'..
note and successful. It was true, that it might
be put in force oil the representation of a quo-.
run, but nu tact there was hut one instance where
it had ht•e» brought forward, and in that one; not
less tion 43 of the most respectable Persons had
ai}piled tor its en!'oreement. Doubtless the Act
was a;sp can of producing patrouaL;c ; but
.against that there was the feeling aatot gOott sense
ot those entrusted ivith its txecotiou ; WEIS
the responsibility attendant- on all violations of
-and the. respect and consideration for
,the opinion and voice of Parliament, which
Nould not be slow ta animadvert upon miscon-
ritonce quoted, where
cluct: Bta the single
was the patrana.,-..,,e ? Was it said that Mr. Wilcox
was not a fitting person S The isSoble Lord had
,also 0:1,-erted.to the age of, the Irish Secretary.
lie (Lord Sidmouth) coidd not soy what time of
:life might ..most: pevfnetty suit~ that Noble Lord's
,eolKeptiplis sp;/ a'r asslia had opportpnifi(is
of judgiiiii; ha seen in :IQ iwt!;

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more coolness, t!hat rarcs:. of gnalitie,, nlor
of discretion, than in tilt! ilonouianle L'ersori al-
luded to. lie spoke not ti.oul any personal par-
tiality, for Le lia;! had but sligi t intereours,! krith
him; but, from al the observation that lie 'could
give, lie coeld not vote for :he Nolde Lord's mo-
tion. Ile cvould moves ti e.qucstion of adjam unient.
Loin DoNi.mcnlf,toßr: said a law tl-ords in reply.
The motion was lOst.—Adjourucd,'