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London, England, 1849-03-20 00:00:00

TAXES ON EMIGRANTS TO AMERICA.

In reply to a question,
Mr. HAWES stated that the Supreme Court of
the United States had unanimously come to a resolu-
tion that the property of emigrants who sailed from this
country to Canada, and who ultimately crossed the
frontier, to settle in the territory of the States, should
be relieved from all taxation. He was not prepared to
say what regulations Lord Elgin might have made, and
he must refer the Hon. Gentleman to the dispatches
from Canada which he shortly expected to receive. Nor
could he, of course, say what charges were likely to be
made.

THE CASE OF JOHN SHAW.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR wished to ask the Right Hon.
Baronet at the head of the Home Department whether
it was true that John Shaw had been deprived of the use
of books which had been sent for his rcading because
they were Catholic, in their principles and the governor
of the prison and the chaplain were Protestant.
Sir G. GREY was not prepared to reply to the ques-
tion, having had no notice of it, but would give an an-
swer on a future day.
MOVEMENTS OF THE ARMY.
Capt. VYSE wished to ask the Right Hon. the Secre-
tary at War whether the Household Brigade were to be
subject to the same rules of charge as the infantry regi-
ments of the line in this country, and he asked this in
order to obtain some information which he was anxious
to receive on the motion of which he had given notice on
going into Committee on the army estimates.
Mr. FOX MAULE said that the Household Brigade
would be regulated' according to the rules which had
always been observed in the direction of its movements.
Mr. Anstey, Ccl. Dunne, Mr. Hume, and sevural
other Members then postponed the motions of which
they had given notice, in order that the House might go
into Committee on the army estimates.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee of
Supply, Mr. Bernal in the chair.

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THE ARMY ESTIMATES.
Mr. FOX MAULE then rose to move the army esti-
mates. He said that in rising to propose the first
vote, namely, the number of men which were to be retained
in the service of the Crown during the ensuing year, he
trusted that the House would bear with him whilst he en-
tered into details, from which he would have abstained but
for the occurrences that had taken place, and which ren-
dered them necessary. The number of men it was pro-
posed to maintain in the service of the Crown during the
ensuing year was 103,254. In considering this subject,
her Majesty's Government had had to review the con-
dition of this country with respect to its foreign rela-
tions, its Indian and colonial possessions, and its affairs
at home. Now, looking generally to all those inter-
ests and the general scope they were taking,
a short time since it did appear to the Govern-
ment of this country that the country might he
relieved from that burden of taxation which was
necessary upon the maintenance of ten thousand
men less than last year when the number
retained was 130,847 ; but the intelligence that arrived,
towards the close of the last year, of the dis-
astrous occurrences that had taken place in
India, called upon the Government to supply
three regiments of 3,300 men, and it was pro-
posed, with reference to the remainder of the
10,060, to discharge them in the course of a few
months. Since that was resolved upon, however, in-
telligence bad arrived from India rendering it necessary
to send two other regiments there, and it was proposed
by the Government thetas to those regiments about to be
withdrawn from this country, that instead of discharging
7,000 men, the discharge should be limited to 5,000 men,
and orders had been given to that effect. In looking
to the subject of this discharge, two aspects
presented themselves the state of the affairs
of this country at home and abroad. With respect to
the first, he thought they were satisfactory, and
as to the latter, they were such as to in-
duce the country to assume an indifferent course.
Now, in the second place, let them look at the colonies
and see what claim there was upon us. He had taken the
trouble to look into the state of the forces distributed
over the colonial empire of this country, and in many
portions of that empire he must say the colonies
were barely occupied ; they could scarcely be
said to be in a state of miltary defence; but, at the same
time, all Governments had endeavoured as much as pos-
sible to make the military charge of the colonies as light
as it could be made to the people of this country but
if we were to preserve the colonies—if we were
to recognise the claims of the colonists to military pro-
tection and defence against aggressions from without,
the House must make up its mind to maintain the
force we had at present concentrated in the
colonies. (Hear, hear.) He did not mean to
say that in the course of lime arrangements
might not be made to diminish that force, but at present
he did not think it would be safe or prudent to reduce
it.—(Hear, hear.) In Gibraltar we had the same gar-
rison as in 1833, and he alluded to 1833, because in
that year a Committee of the House sat upon
the details of the military defence of the colonies, and
decided what forces were necessary for their protection.
—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") In Malta at that period
there were 2,468 men, at present there were 2,700, so
that in the case of that colony there had
been a slight increase. In the lonian Islands the force
remained much about the same now as in 1833. In
Western Africa in 1833 the force was 452, at present
it was 600. In the Cape in 1833 the troops in that colony
consisted of 1,779; at present they numbered 4,200, with
no prospect of a reduction, In Ceylon the force re
mained the same in the year 1833, with no prospect
of a reduction. In Canada the troops consisted
at present of 7,870 men, about the same as in
1833, but here there was a prospect of reducing
the number.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HUME—Does that include the Canadian Rifles?
Mr. F. MAULE continued—lt included the Rifles and
the whole North American force; as that country was
approaching a state of greater contentment than had been
known for many years, the garrison there might be re-
duced hereafter. The Hon. Member for the West Riding
h,afto increase was
in 18 removed.3B
and 1839,
83T9,hoawt
owing
had said that when an increase was made to the army at
any time in the colonies, it was not reduced afterwards
notwh apply
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cause
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to the rebellion there, the troops were 13,825, the num-
ber now was only 7,708. In Bermuda the number was
much ,the same as in 1833,-1,080. In New South
Wales the number in 1834 was 2,636. It waslnow 4,000.
But it must be remembered that the colony of New Zea-
land had been added to our colonial possessions in that
part of the world, and that the colonists had had
to be defended against the attacks of a very
warlike and skilfull body of natives. In the Mauritius
the number in 1833 was 2,000; at present it
was 1,520; and, considering that the people were not
altogether friendly to English rule, it would :not be
safe to reduce the number further. In Jamaica the num-
ber in 1833 was 4,000, including.the Hack troops; it was
now 1,940. In the West Indies, not including Jamaica,
the number in 1833 was 5,281; it was now 3,160. In
St. Helena the number now was 375; and in Hong Kong
(first garrisoned in 1846) the number had been reduced
from 2,000 to 1,140. He had asked many Gentle men
connected with the trade in those seas, and they all
agreed that it was absolutely necessary to have a mili-
tary post in that quarter, and that Hong Kong was the
best. Fe thought that the Committee would agree with
him that it would not be prudent to reduce the colonial
force lower than it was at present.—(Hear, 'hear.) He
then came to the. next consideration, of the force re-
quired for the maintenance of pence and order at home.
He never was one who wished to maintain order in this
country by military despotism, but it was necessary to
maintain a sufficient force to protect those who were at-
tached to order, who were embarked in commerce, and in
the general pursuits of peace, in case of tumult and out-
break—(Hear, hear)—and to support the magistrates in
the execution of their duty, in enforcing the laws against
the refractory. At this moment the military force in
this country consisted of 53,000 men, of whom 27,000
were quartered in England and Scotland, and 25,000 in
Ireland; these were rank and file. Pt the 25,000

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England, and 2,000 in Scotland, they were scattered
very generally over the manufacturing and populous dis•
tricts in Lancashire, Yorkshire, and counties of that de-
scription, and, numerous as that isody might appear to
be, the House might be surprised to be told that, not in
this nor in the past year alone. but geeerelly in every
) ear as far back as he could remember, lookieg to the
requirements made by the civil to the military authori-
ties for the aid of the military power, that number of
troops had no light duty to perform. He held in his
hand a hat of the applications made in the year 1848 by
the civil magistrates to the military authorities for
assistance in preserving the peace on various occasions,
and in different towns in this country. In that
list were included the towns of Brecon and Car-
digan, Derby, Weymouth, Durham, Wigan, Liverpool
(on six different occasions), Ashton-under-Line,
Rochdale, Leicester, Nottingham, Bath, Teignmouth,
Stockton-on-Tees, Birmingham, Dudley, Sheffield,
Leeds, Barnsley, Halifax, Doncaster and Keighley.
Some of these applications were made on extremely fri-
volous and vexatious grounds; but still, it the military
had not been there, complaints would have been mule
that Ministers were eeelecting their duty, end that the
country was not provided with troops sufficient to pre-
vent the outbreaks which had taken place. At Leeds the
Mayor had called a meeting, at which resolutions were
passed in favour of reform. But the mayor bad in one
minute signed the requisition for that meeting, in order
to give the public an opportunity of expressing their
opinions on the subject, and, in the next, had signed a
requisition to the officer commanding the troops, to fur-
nish him with a military force in the event of any breach
of the peace taking place.—(A laugh, and " Hear, hear.")
Fortunately, no collision had taken place on that occa-
sion, but the circumstance showed that it was considered
necessary to have troops in readiness in the manufac-
turing and other districts of England in which disturb-
ances were anticipated. He believed that it
was a wise economy to have these troops at
hand; that prevention was, in 99 cases out of 100, better
than cure; and that, although the public might be taxed
a few thousands extra to maintain a greater number of
troops than would be otherwise absolutely necessary, yet
that it was wise to do so, inasmuch as they were pre-
venting collision and an effusion of blood, from the cir-
curesteuce of its being known that the troops were at
hand, and ready to act, if the occasion should arise for
their services.—(Hear, hear.) With reference to the
fourth consideration, the relief to the troops in India
and the colonies, if Hon. Gentleman would read the
speech of Sir R. Peel in 1845, they would remark the
stress which he had most properly laid on the bounden
duty of those who had charge of the military arrange-
ments of this country, to see that those who had entered
into the service of the country should not be banished
into honourable exile, but that they should have the
prospect, within a reasonable time, of returning to their
friends iu this country. The rule acknowledged to
I be the proper one was, that regiments serving in
India should not remain there more than fifteen years,
whereas they had in some instances been compelled to
serve there for a period of 26 years; that regiments
serving in any of the nearer colonies should not be
abroad more than ten years; and that every regiment re-
turning to this country should remain here fur at least
five years. Now, with the numbers of the army as at
present proposed by the Government, these desirable
ends could just be attained, but if the House agreed to
the proposition of the Hon. Member for Montrose, and
reduced the number by 14,000 men more than the Go-
vernment proposal, the system of relief to which he had
adverted would be most effectually prevented. [le hoped
that such a number of troops might be maintained as
would enable the Horse Guards to relieve troops which
had served 15 years in India and 10 in the other colonies,
and to enable them to serve five years at home; and
153,000 men were not more than they were
warranted in placing at the disposal of the Government
for the purpose of effecting these important objects and
maintaining the general interests of thecountry. He might
now place the vote in the hands of the chairman, with
the simple request that the House would not agree to the
motion of the Honourable Member (Mr. Hume), but the
custom of explaining the votes in detail which were in-
eluded in the army estimates rendered it necessary for
him to take a rapid glance at the money votes succeed-
ing the vote for men. The first vote being for the num-
ber of men (103,254), the second was the estimate of the
charge for the payment of that number and amount of
the land force. The gross charge for the financial year
1848-49, exclusive of India, was 3,971,1221.; for the
present year, 3,655,5881., being a decrease of 315 5341.
The third vote was for the general staff. Last year the
gross charge was 172,886/, this year it was 173 3761.,
being a small increase of 4901. On the home staff there
had been an increase of 1,6061., on the foreign staff a
decrease of 1,1161., making the total increase
4901. Vote 4 was for the public departments.
The gross charge in 1848 9 was 96,591/.; in 1849 50,
94,199/, being a decrease of 2,3921. Vote 5 was for the
Royal Military College, in which there was au increase of
1,125/., bet the institution was self-supporting, and the in-
crease would be provided from its own resources, and paid
into the Exchequer. Vote 6 was for the Royal Military
Asylum. The gross vote in 1848 9 was 19,5591.,
in 1849.50, 19,2981., being a decrease of 261/. Vote 7
was for the yeomanry. The gross charge for 1843 9
was 80,309/. ; tor the present year it would he 66,2861,
being a decrease of 14,0231. The Government had
effected this reduction in the charge for yeomanry by
directing that they should be assembled for simple ex-
ercise only (luring the present year. Looking to the
facts that there had been frequent inst ections of the
yeomanry, that the various corps were well drilled and
appointed, and ready for efficient service ; that they had
been generMly "out " last i ear, an:l that many had
voluntarily served in the spring on particular service,
the Government felt that, without any imputation deco.
gatory to that body, and without diminishing its effi •
ctency, the le.sembling merely for exercise would be suf-
ficient in the prestnt year. These were the vot( s on
effective cervices, the total decrease in which was
330,595/. The von s for non-effective service
b gun with Vote 8, rewards for distinguished
services, the gross charge for which in 1848 9 was
15,5071., and in the present year 15,1204, being a
decrease of 3871. -Vote 9, the pay of general officers
amounted to 76,0001. in 1848-9, and in the present
year to 65,000/., being an actual d, crease of 11,000/.
There came, however, this year into the vote a charge of
rather an extraordinary nature. In 1818 General Mur-
ray was promoted from a lieutenant-celonelcy in the
Life Guards to the rank of a major-general, and claimed
to be retained on the strength of the army as lieutenant-
colonel of the regiment from which he was promoted.
The War-office and General Murray differed upon this
subject, and the consequence was that the latter refused
to draw any pay at all during the whole period from
1818 to 1848, and the amount of his pay remained in
the hands of the public, being paid back into the Exche-
quer. On the death of General Murray his executors
put in a claim, for principal and compound interest, of
24.000/. The amount which would be paid to them was
13,908/., which showed an apparent increase on this vote
of 2,9081. Votes 10, 11, and 12, which formed the bulk
of what was called the dead weight of the army, were, as
many Honourable Members must be aware, most
scrupulously attended to by those who adminis-
tered the financial affairs of the army.—(Hear,
hear.) As a proof he would trouble the Committee
with the difference in the amount of this vote since
1821. In that year the whole number of officers of the
army on full pay, unattached, retired, half-pay, and fo-
reign half-pay, was 17,426; in the present year the
number was 10,514, being a diminution in the present
year of 6,912. There was an increase of 1,016 officers
on full pay, bust there had been an increase of men in
proportion. In 1822 the pay for officers unattached was
182,126/.; in 1849 it was 65,0001., a decrease of 117,4261.
The charge for officers on retired full pay in 1822 was
145,235/.; it was now 56,0001. The half-pay in 1822
was 870,000/.; it was now 400,0001., being a reduction
of 470,000/. The foreign half-pay amounted to 97,000/.
in 1822; it was now 44,000/. The decrease on these
three votes since 1822 was no less than 745,0001. So
far as the dead weight was concerned it was, therefore,
evident that it had been narrowly watched by every
successive Government.—(Hear, hear.) The next vote
(13) was for widows' pensions. Last year the gross
charge was 129,8551.; this year it was 128,778/, being
a decrease of 1,077/. Vote 14 was for comparative
allowances, which was 95,5001. this year, against
98,0001. last year, a decrease of 2,500/. Vote 15, in
pensions, presented a gross charge last year of 38,580/.
this year of 35,5411., a decrease of 3,0391. Vote 16 was
for out-rnsions, the charge for which in 1848.9 was
1,248,810/.. and in 1849.50, 1,224,0531., a decrease of
24,757/. One item of this vote, of 500/., required ex-
planation, as it had been misunderstood and misrepre-
sented. It was for the payment of an officer (Captain
Tulloch) who had been sent to Canada for the purpose
of reviewing the pensioners in British North America,
in order to ascertain the possibility of forming them into
a similar body to that which had been formed out of the
pensioners at home. This body were paid through the
Commissariat, and it was believed that many of the
same defects in the mode of paying the pensioners in
British North America would be found to exist which
had been exposed in this country. Captain Tulloch
would investigate the whole circumstances respecting
this body of men, and he had no doubt that the result
would amply repay this outlay of 500/. On vote 17, for
superannuation allowances, there was a small decrease,
the gross charge for 1848.9 being 38,2324, and, fur
1849, 38,000/. The whole decrease in the charges
for the non-effective service for the present year was
48,029/., and, on the effective service, 330,595/., making
a total decrease on the effective and non-effective ser-
vice of 378,624/. as compared with last year. But then
it was stated that the votes for the present year ought
to be regulated by the standard of 1835. Ile was glad
to see that Mr. Hume proposed to arrive at that stand-
ard gradually, and not suddenly; but he would venture
to compare the expenditure for 1835 and 1849. So far
as regarded the charges of those two years he believed
there was a very small difference in the actual burden
of taxation for the maintenance of the army. In 1835
the gross charges on the army estimates were 5,906,7821,;
in 1849-50, 6,142,211/., being an increase in one year over
the other of 235,000/., and no more. But since the year
1835 many charges had been placed on the army esti
mates, with the consent of all parties in that House, and
after the most mature deliberation on the part of the
House. lie might instance the 50,000/. which had
been foregone as poundage, and the expense for mili-
tary prisons in lieu of corporal punishment. The
number of points in which the present estimates neces-
sarily differed from those of 1835 were much greater
than might at first view appear. If, for example, they
had included in the votes for 1835 as great a charge for
education as was contained in the estimates now before
the House, it would be found that the army expenses of
that year would greatly exceed those of the year 1849,
and that, too, for a less force than was to be maintained
in the present year. It had been, of course, the aim of
every Government to render the effective force of the
army as much as possible what an effective force ought
to be, taking care at the same time to keep the non-effec-
tive force at the lowest possible point, consistent with
justice and expediency, He admitted that since the year
1835 there had been a large additive to the stag Qf 010

army, but that arose from an increase in the stations.
Then, as to the augmentation of the officers, his Hon.
Friend near hire knew es well as he did that the pro-
portion of men guided the proportion of cfficers.-
( Hear, hear.) They must have a sufficient number of
fliers and a sufficient number of grades amongst
the efficers to insure the disc'pline and effi-
ciency- of the troops. Every one knew that
a. here there were men there must be effacers
to command them.-(hear, hear.) In this way we might
g) through all the votes of 1835 sc: iatinz, but this he
should not do, considering that it would be quite unne-
cessary for him to occupy the time of the Ilouse with
such minute details. He might, however, just touch
upon one or two points in which alterations had been
made, conformably with the recommendations of the
Committee of 1836, and of these the in( st important was
a sum of 24,000/. to labourers, and 24,0001. on account of
the increased expenses of married soldiers. In the course
of last year inquiry had been made into the condition
of married soldiers in barracks, and it had been found
to be the habit of the service that many of them, with
their wives, occupied sleeping rooms in screimon with
single men, and it was now proposed by the Govern•
meld to incur such further expense as would put an end
to a practice so of jectionable, by enabling commanding
officers to allow married men to find lodgings for them-
selves.-(Hear, hear.) A further expense now proposed
to be incurred was 2,000/. for barrack libraries, and
5,000/. for schools for female children. There was an
additional item of which he doubted not that the House
would fully approve. It sometimes became necessary
to put soldiers in confinement to offences purely
milder) ; and, since secondary punishments had been
increased so much as they had recently been, the neces•
sity for military prisons had undergone a corresponding
augmentation, an expense which he was sure the House
would not refuse, inasmuch as it would prevent the ne-
cessity of sending soldiers, guilty of no moral or civil
offence, to herd among common felons. The sum re-
quired for this purpose would be 28,000/. The other
votes which he might here mention would be on account
of divine service, or rether spiritual assistance to Ro-
man Catholics, 3 000/.: for regimental savings-banks,
2,5001. ; for good conduct warrants, 4,0001.; for the Jer-
sey and Guernsey Militia, 2,7001.; and for the St. Helena
corps, 11,9881., which, with 5,5001. for other items, gave
a total of 253,0001. in the shape of additional charges
since 1835, and upon the whole the country possessed
the services of a much larger force in 1849 than in 1835.
He should now come to some other matters relating to
the general condition of the troops both at home and
abroad, and more especially to the sanitary condition
of our military force. He held in his hand a state-
ment from Colonel Tulloch on this subject, the sub-
stance of which he now proposed to lay be:ore the House
as follows :-In Jamaica, the average mortality per
1,000 of white troops annually during a period of 20
years ending in 1836 amounted to 121 3-10ths; during
a period of ten years, ending in 1846, 66 9-10ths; the
difference in the mortality per 1.000 of troops employed,
54 4- 10ths reduction: Windward and Leeward Islands,
daring a period of 20 years ending in 1836, 78 5-10ths ;
period of 10 years ending in 1846, 68 7-10ths; reduc-
tion, 9 8-10ths; Gibraltar, 20 years ending in 1836, 21
4-10ths; 10 years ending in 1846, 10 9-10ths; reduc-
tion, 10 5-10ths; Malta, 20 years ending in 1836, 16
3-10ths; 10 years ending in 1846, 14 9-10ths; reduc-
tion, 1 4-10ths; Jordan Islands, 20 years ending in 1836,
25 2 10ths; 10 years ending in 1846, 15 5-10ths; re-
duction, 9 7-10ths; Bermudas, 20 years ending in
1836,.28 8-10ths; 10 years ending in 1846, 29
2-10ths; excess, 4-10ths; Nova Scotia and New Bruns-
wick, 20 years ending in 1836,147-10ths; lOyears ending
in 1846, 13; reduction, 1 7-10ths; Canada, 20 years
ending in 1836, 16 1-10th; 10 years ending in 1846, 12
6.loths; reduction, 3 5-10ths; Newfoundland, 20 years
ending in 1836, 41 ; 10 years ending in 1846, 9 1-10th;
reduction, 31 9-10ths: St. Helena, 20 years ending in
1836, 34 2-10ths; 10 years eliding in 1846, 15 4.10 th ;
reduction, 18 8-10ths: Mauritius, 20 years ending in
1836, 27 4-10ths; 10 years ending in 1846, 24 4 10ths;
reduction, 3: Ceylon, 20 years ending in 1836, 69
8-10ths; 10 years ending in 1846, 41 4-10ths; reduction,
28 4-10ths: New South Wales and Van Diemen's Land,
20 years ending in 1836, 14 ; 10 years ending in 1846,
11 ; reduction, 3 : Cape of Good Hope, 20 years end-
ing 1836, 13 7-10ths; 10 years ending in 1846, 13; re-
ductien, 7-10ths. In the Windward and Leward com-
mand, the average mortality per 1,000 of black troops
annually during a period of 20 years ending in 1836,
amounted to 40 ; 10 years ending in 1846, 30; difference
in the mortality per 1,000 of troops employed, 10 reduc-
tion: Jamaica,2o years ending in 1836 30; lOyears ending
in 1846, 26 5-10ths; reduction, 3 5-10th : Ceylon, 20
years ending in 1836, 24 8-10 the; 10 years ending in
1846, 24 7-10ths ; reduction, I.loth : Cape of Good
Hope, 20 years ending in 1836, 10 9-10ths ; 10 years
ending in 1846, 14 8-10ths ; excess, 8 9-10ths. In the
Household Cavalry the average mortality per 1,000 of
troops employed in the United Kingdom during a period
of 7 years previous to 1836, 14 5-10ths; 10 years ending
in 1846, 11 1.10 th; difference in the mortality per 1,000,
3 4-10ths reduction : Dragoon Guards and Dragoons, 7
years previous to 1836, 15 3-10ths ; 10 years ending in
1846, 13 7-10ths; reduction, 1 6-10ths : Foot Guards, 7
years previous to 1836, 21 6-10ths; 10 years ending in
1846, 20 4- 10ths; reduction, 1 2-10ths: Line Regiments,
7 years previous to 1836, 18 5-10ths ; 10 years ending ;
in 1846, 17 9-10ths reduction, 6-10ths. Ia Jamaica
the deathsehat would have taken place among the white
troops had the mortality from 1836 to 1846 been at the
same rate as in the previous 20 years, 1,960; whereas
the number who actuailydied during the periods under re-
view were only 1,082; saving of life during the 10 years
ending in 1846. 878; in the Windward and Leeward Is-
lands, deaths that world have taken place, 2,655:
actually died, 2,323: saving, 332: in Gibraltar, deaths
that would have taken place, 718; actually died, 364;
saving, 354: in Malta, deaths that would have taken places
348; actually died, 31e; saving, 29: in the lonian Is-
lands, deaths that would have taken place, 660; actually
died, 505; saving 255: in the Bermudes, excess, 5: in
Nova Scotia and rew Brunswick, deaths that would
have taken place, 396; actually died, 351; saving, 45'
in Canada, deaths that would have taken place, 1,472 ;
ectually died, 1,153; saving, 319: in Newfoundland,
deaths that would have taken place, 154; actually died,
34; saving, 120: in St. Helena, deaths that would have
taken place, 95; actually died, 43; saving, 52: at the
Cape of Good Hope, deaths that would have taken
place, 345 ; actually died, 327 ; saving, 18
at the Mauritius, deaths that would have taken_
place, 474 ; actually died, 422 ; saving, 52 ;
in Ceylon, deaths that would have taken place,
L 085; actually died, 644; seving, 441; in New South
Wales and Van Diemen's Land, deaths that would have
taken place, 312; actually died, 242; saving 70. At the
home stations, the deaths that would have taken piece
among the Household Cavalry, 174; actually died, 134;
saving 40; among the Dragoon. Guards and Dragoons,
deaths that would have taken place, 836; actually died,
742; saving, 94: among the Foot Guards, deaths that
would have taken place, 865; actually died, 820; saving.'
! 45: among the Line Regiments, deaths that would hev:
taken place, 2,965; actually died, 2,860; saving' iotbe
Under the Windward and Leeward he tdolack
deaths that would have taken place among
Comm- _
troops, 457; actually died, 340; saving 117: in Jamaica,
the deaths that would have taken place, 164; actually
_
died, 146; saving, 18: in Ceylon, deaths that would
have taken place, 498; actually died, 497; saving, 1: at
the Cape of ;Good Hope, excess, 19; total excess, 24.
_
Total of those who would have died, 16,633; total
of those who actually died, 13,248: making a total
saving of life in the course of this period of 3,385 men.
which was nearly equal to five battalions. From the
foregoing statements the House would see that much
improvement had been effected in the sanitary condition
of the troops in the West Indies by an abolition of salt
diet, arid by the discontinuance of inferior food of other
kinds, as well as by removing the troops out of the sea-
side barracks and placing them in higher and more
healthful situations. From the statements which he hrid
just laid before the House it became evident that, at cote"
paratively trifling expense, they had been enabled t.°
effect a great improvement in the condition of the set
dier-(Hear, hear)-which, even apart from its buten:.
nity, had the further but much lower recommendation?:
being a measure of wise and sound economy. Tn.,
saving of human life by means of those improvenree:
amounted to not less than 3,385, being equal to five bate
talions. The next subject to which he wished to advert
had reference to six questions, of which notice had been
given by a Noble Lord opposite. One of those questions
related to the number of deaths that had taken plane, 15,,
the 66th Regiment; another, whether any case of yelic'e,,
fever had occurred in the 72d before the 66th were ef
camped in the rear of their barracks; and also if the x.
officers of those regiments had not been put to greateese
pease for medical advice? In reply to the first of ththe
questions, ho should state that the 66th arrived 'n And;
island of Barbadoes about the end of Februarl'ef the
at ter a day or two, took possession of the barracks eieed
88th, which regiment they relieved. They reretee
tolerably healthy till about the end of Aliens"
Leber
disease became virulent. On the 6th of SePwe ;ere
they were encamped. As many as 18 had died be
the Ist of September, and 17 died daring the month of
September. As to the latter clause of the question
respecting Dr. Davy's letter to the medical inspectorer
th
he had no information to give. In reply to d
Noble Lord's second question, respecting Assistant'
Surgeon Simpson's letter to Dr. Davy, he b,
only to say that no such letter was in the
hands of the Inspector-General. His reply.,
the third question was this-that no case of yens":
fever occurred in the 72d Regiment prior to the 66
being encamped. The 66th were encamped on the Dl
ls
of September, s
and the first case of yellow fever occurred
iuthe
72d on the 3d of October. The 88th were
_en!
ll
camped on the same ground as the 66th, while the l'of
Fusiliers occupied the same barracks, and no case
tos
yellow fever occurred in that corps. The inference ,on.
that the 6Gth did not bring the fever by oontsgithe
Then, with regard to thefourth question, concernings, be
expenses to which the officers were supposed to be pursal•
begged to inform the Noble Lord that on enc*MPoreduer
the officers become entitled to field allowances, 'il bad
to enable them to meet extra expenses,. and they, fa-
no occasion to pay anything extra for
tendance. Next in order came the fifinthedn'nefie°:ci
which he had no means of answering, an
and
only to state that the expense of
extra stores would appear in the Ordnance
hear.) The
encamp
_anduboin.
missariat accounts for the quarter.--(ffear, ,
many
Noble Lord's sixth questions was to this effect, nuw. , ?
periods the
medical men were available for duty during the ePtnein.
His answer was that during the following Pe the
medical officers were-in January, 181,1 a 'l;2, ie
February 11, in March 12, in April 12,
assistance
should submit, that that amount of medical tJuneober in July
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to the barracks of St. Anne's, he had b
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of the island. From 1843 to 1847 the troop(
that tbat they were not more unhealthy than other part
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