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saidf forward
r wlntiotradn thedi
1 from this very field by a tumultudits Chneth and K'ng
mob. He repiced, therefore, that it had been greh' tot
once again to asaettrfale on that field in the same good dud
righteous cause as had distirtnithed their forefathers, be-
reise it was one more addition ml I feniGtlsVation to the many
that eiere.happening daily, that in civil as Welt ne military
metiers theie here the most extraordinary coincide/es:in
The first battle in rne French revolutionary war was
fought on the fields of Genappe, dud though it might not
be hnown in the intelligence of this meeting, yet Genappe
and Waterido :!-e+e ihe same, and the last battle ;11 that
struggle was also fought oti the same field, namely, Wa-
terloo. This is, therefore, the ci-S?t pp.al'el of which he
spoke, that the first battle in Mancliesfet in the greet
cause of Therliamentary Reform was fought in Chit field,
and we are now rifft to slain the victory.—(Loud cheers.)
In the harassing discussions that had taken place on the
Reform Bill, and he certainly thotight Ihem most harassing,
' be !Mend
,arraigned in behalf of that Bill ail the patriotism
and intelligenta of•the British people, in such force as had
never been equalled in airy other age or country, and in such
a manner as, in his opinion, slieed that the British people
completely understood their constitullotsal rights, and
were ittnittely determined upon obtaining fhten by all
legal and constitutloreal means. lie had always °beetled
that the people of England tare every occe ision when it
became necessary to exert the poPifiat voice in favour of
any great measure which was necessary fot thl peace and
liberty of the people—exerted it firmly otad de-
cidedly, and that wlielf the object was attained it sub-
sided into a calm of sober watebfeelnese until another exi-
gency bad arisen, which required anti/hear eNort, and that
the promptitude, the wise moderation evinced 6.7 them in
tphuartsuittheoifr thaiashfit.egetatszte!
ea:L:daucsotlidwgiriloubned foerticaoaltd.suee
dis-
tinguished by its excellence ; and that whilst the British
people will never retreat one step front ilia high ground
which they had taken upon this momentous questiam, nei-
ther would they make n single movement in advance towards
its completion which was kia consistent with sound mo-
rality, and in strict accordance with the exising laws.
This will obtain for the country those blessings 'which ale
so ardently seeks,--(Loud cheers.) But should the ling
hesitate to comply with the just and universal wishes of
his people, and instead of creating an additional number of
Peers—(Loud cries of " the Peet* ! No Peers ! No
more Peers ! We have too many already t'') .such as
would enable his present Ministers to pass the Reform Bill
into a law, lie should prefer to attempt to carry on
Government by forming an Administration composed o•
those persons who bad always been opposed to all
Reform, and who were now making the most
hypocritical professions in favour of what they called mo-
derate Reform, then the people will consider that the time
for sending petitions and addresses to either the King or
Parliament, was past, and they would resort to other legal
and constitutional means to obtain redress.—(Cheers.)
From all he had heard in public and private he was
confident', and certain, that it was the consequence
of a most mature deliberation, that the first step that
would be taken would be a passive resistance to the pay-
ment of taxes.—(Three distinct rounds of cheers.) That
such a measure will be extensively resorted to he had no
doubt; and in a most extended circle of acquaintance, of
the most respectable description, be happened to know
that there was not a single individual but had made up his
mind on the subject; and should, in the struggle that
would consequently ensue from this course, the Govern.
went be, as it necessarily would, hostile to the people,
and levy upon the goods for the material part of the re-
venue, they might most undoubtedly rely upon it that
neither buyers nor sellers of such goods would be found
(Loud cbeers)--and in a civilized community power
without money is but a shadow. It is not necessary,
under present circumstances, to take this course of resist-
ance to the payment of taxes, for it was his firm opinion
that the sentiments of the nation, energetically and respect-
fully embodied in petitions and addresses, would be sue-
cessful.—(Tremendous cries of "No petitions ! no ad-
dresses.") After the storm had subsided, Mr. S. repeated
that he for one was of opinion that petitions and addresses
would succeed. It would, indeed, be improper, and totally
unworthy of the intelligence of the people of England to
take, at this crisis, any other course. But if a necessity
should arise for resorting to other measures, be was con-
fident that they would be adopted with an unanimity,
firmness, and a steadiness of purpose, such as had ever
characterized the people of England when engaged in a
just and righteous cause ; whilst, on the contrary, any mea-
sures of violence or extravagance would prove fatal to the
measure. And he was certain that they all wished that
such a course of proceeding would be resolutely abst mined
froth..—(Much cheering.) Mr. S. concluded a splendid
speech, to which we regret we are not able to do justice,
in consequence of the disorder that prevailed, by ab-
juring the meeting, for the sake of that Reform which
they were so ardently attached, and were so so-
lemnly pledged to support, and which might
lae placed in jeopardy by any unworthy or in-
discreet conduct. on the part of its supporters, by
detouni
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depend--for
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and
which
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the deep responsibility which attached to that patriotic
Nobleman to whom they were: indebted for the bringing
at this momentous period the safety of the State might be
necessarily require all the aid of popular support to sur-
mount
press upon him—for the sake of Lord Grey, whose
me;
whogqarnuoteushnasrttoil
he besought for his sake, and in the words of the brother
of the King he would address them—" Be firm, be peace-
able; and you will gain the prize."—(Loud cheers.) He se-
conded the first resolution.

Mr. RICHARDSON, a member of the Political Union,
said he had read the resolution, and did not think it of suffi-
cieu weight, being a repetition of words, the same as the
Ministerial Reform Bill.—(Applause.) Mr. R. here en-
tered into a detail of the obnoxious clause in the Reform
Bill, and stated that in some instances it would require
near three years' residence to qualify the elector to give a
vote. He also alluded to a pamphlet which he said ex-
posed the follies of the Bill, and which, although written
by a Tory, showed, and fully developed, the knavery of the
Whip in attempting to foist this Bill span the people.—
(Cheers.) He advised them to tell the King plainly what
they wanted, and what they would now have. The pre-
vious speakers talked of proceeding by legal measures; but
Lord Brougham had declared that it was unlawful to com-
bine to resist the payment of taxes ; and in the same
breath he insinuated that as the laws are enacted by ho-
roughmongers--there was a peculiarity in the present
case.—(A laugh.) Let them, however, said the speaker,
address the King in spirited language, and tell hint that
they would have a thorough Reform. But supposing
that they had a House of Commons returned that was as
pure as it was possible to suppose, of what use would it be
to the country if the domineering oligarchy in the House
of Lords were to have the power of upsetting its proceed-
ings.—(Lond cries of "Down with the Peers, and
the Bishops.") He concluded by saying that the people
will not any longer be driven into the market-place like
bullocks, but they would arouse themselves, and check the
growth of these domestic spoilers, who had the audacity
to call the people slares.—(Long and continued cheering.)
He moved the following amendment :—" That this meet-
ing, duly appreciating your Majesty's determination to
render the people happy, humbly entreat you will exercise
your Royal prerogative, not by adding to the strength of
the Peerage, but by causing an inquiry into the limits of
ou, of
Reform
is left
t o will
the mere}'
their power ; for this meeting is fully aware that no Re-
form
NATHAN BROADHURST rose to second the amend-
ment, and said that this was a proud day, the proudest
whatever
day he ever had in his life. He was no orator, and benefitier cy theof thepeople, Nob le ifH thisse measure.,
per-
haps did not speik good grammar, but if he made him-
self understood it was all he wanted. He had one request
to make to them, as a deliberative assembly, namely, not
to put up their hauls for any thing unless they were
hyl:ristma ilTeryi
perfectly satisfied with it. He would show that the
,p.
er
re
ss
ae nl t
suffrage
gs ter y; wereno but to
a set of hypocritical
strengthen
the rascals.
aristocracy,
in 1793, brought in a Reform Bill, but not for uni-
and would have done the same now, bat he found the
people were too wise. This precious Bill was therefore
brought in with the 101. qualifications, and a nice piece
of legislation it was ; for by it a loan who paid only 9L
19e. / had no sense, and if he paid the extra farthing,
making 101. he instantly became possessed of the must
excellent contmon sense.—(Cheers, and laughter.) He
then read what he called a bill of indictment against the

!npresriceunlttuitraninicsotryun,tiesulticaiLczno:t!enedonseqthorne bturhcananinrgapengnigetne;:thhoeei
prosecution of William Cobbett, of William
Henry Hetherington, and the Rev.-Robert Taylor. The
present Ministry bad also, when out of office, caused
the repeal of the Spring-Gun and litian-trap Law, and
now, on the credit of the Reform Bill, bad caused it to be
re,enaeted; and this was the Ministry they were called
upon to support. They hid alio given 100,0001. to a
foreign woman, whom they knew nothing at all about ;
and 12,0001. a year to a little girl to learn to dance upon
her toes, and split her tongue so as to enable her to talk
two words at once.—(Cheers, and cries, of " We can do
without them.") He concluded by appealing to them if
the amendment was not superior to the original resolution.
—(Cheers.)
Mr. CURRAN' rose and addressed the meeting. He 6,-
,
gan by observing that he was a hard-working man, and one who
kci, felt severely the lash of oppression I He was determined
to te.;l:sf !nose who endearouriii to curtail the rights of the
working Men, and to labour until he obtained univeral suf.
f. age, annual nirliaittents, and vote by ballot. But for a
few of the working Closes. that meeting -would not have
beets called; the Ministry were combined for their ruin, and
there On a power behind the Throne which must be destroyed.
He denied the authority of the Lords to Interfere with whet had
been passed by the King and Commons.
Mr. SHUTTLEWORTH here interrupted the speaker, and
gfcl4 confusion ensued, but he could not be heard. Mr.
Curran Continued—it was the first time they had met Isere
for the diceus,len of their rights, and he hoped they would not
be put down as they had been at the sheeting in the Manor
Court Room. He went on to observe that heknew many opera-
tifie, who were working at the rate of 14 hours a day for a
starving Alesistence, and it was debt that the King should be
made acquainted with the condition of the people. In the
reign of one of the Edwards every man had a vote, and after
having seen it in practice for 150 years, is there any man who
ugh esy it is impracticable, or that his assertion was un-
true. The people must not now be told that they were not
educated encater far the exercise of their rights. He for one
knew they had knowledge enough, and were determined to be
free.—(Loud cheers.)

Mr. SHUTTLE WORTH again rose, and observed, that in
conseqUrrire of the indisposition of Mr. Heywood, who bad been
compelled to leave the meeting, he had again risen to solicit
their attention and was proceeding to observe upon the amend-
ment which irs:R been proposed, but was interrupted by a general
c'oriftviion in the opening of the extreme outakirts of the
meetiiik in c,onsequenee of, some false alarm. Mr. Shuttle-
worth then continued, and complained that resolutions had
been proposed, not at all in conformity to the objects of the
meeting : not because they were better, but to draw the atten-
fl,l4 of the meeting from its real objects, and to excite -confu-
slot!. An address to his Majesty had been proposed, which *he
felt assured if read would satisfy them all.—(Mr. Broadhurst—

"To the point," find great contusion ensued.) Mr. Shuttle-
worth continued—The address expressed deep regret at the
?!rent conduct of the Lord'', and was there one among them
who did not feel regret at that conduct. After repeated inter-
ruptions, Mf. Shuttleworth concluded by expressing a wish
that the address should be adopted. •
Mr. DYER then roar• to move another amendment, and ob-
:;cyved that this was a most important meeting, and he hoped
that SUth steps would be adopted as were best calculated to
advance the interests of their common country. His amend-
ment, he was sure, embodied the universal sentiment of the
people in favour of Reform, and the necessity of a new creation
I of Peers to carry the BilL---;Loud cries of " No,no; no Peers,"
and rest confusion.) Mr. Dyer concluded by observing that
there was northing in his amendment but what every honest
heart would vibrate to.—(Loud cries of " No Peers, no lii-
shops.")
1 Mr. HUMPHREYS, soll4tor, amidst hisses and confusion,
said, fist though he regretted it, he felt no apprehension as to
' the fate Of the Bill. Knowledge had been gradually extending
amongst the se atiting classes. (He was then proceeding to
observe upon the benefits of Sunday schools and other institu-
tions, for the extending knoirlodgeamongst the people, when he
was interrupted by groans and Muses.) After the confusion had
subsided, he •aid he felt as warmly for his country as any man
upon the ground, and he hoped the people then assembled would
chew by their conduct to those who governed the country, that
the people of England were determined to maintain their rights,
not by violence, but by union and constitutional activity.
The people of England were the best educated in the world,
and let them show that while they defended their own
rights, they respected the property of others. He then
concluded by expressing a wish that the passing of that
Bill would be the means of a glorious and peaceable triumph.
Violence did no good, and the best fight would be that fought
by the Representatives of the people in the House of Commons.
He seconded Mr. Dyer's amendment
Mr. ADAMS, an operative, then rose and said—The amend-
ment they had just heard was, to advise his Majesty to make
more new Peers. Heavens ! had they not enough of them ?
;Cries Of "No Peers, no Peers," and confusion.) Mt Adams
then read the amendment, and said—They say the address does
not call for a new creation of Peers, but the address talks about
the King reigning in the hearts of his people—What could this
mean but making new Peers ?—(A voice from the hustings " A
lie." Confusion.) The speaker then went on. The King has
made Peers, and can do away with them. The speaker con-
cluded by expressing a wish that the King would degrade the
lilt) Peers and 21 Bishops who had voted against the Bill. The
speaker then called upon the people to insist upon universal
suffrage, annual Parliaments, and vote by ballot. Earl Grey
and Lord Brougham had both said in their places in Parliament

hat if the Bill were rejected. they would have to give more.—

(Tremendous cheering.) Did they not understand that, and
know that it alluded to annual Parliaments, universal suffrage,
and vote by ballot P

Mr. DYER again rose to address the meeting, but after great
and continued confusion was unable to succeed.

Great confusion now prevailed, and no person could be heard
'or a long time, when

Mr. OATES, the Reporter for the roice qf the People,
rose, and, after calming the multitude, said he regretted the
repeated interruptions which many well-meaning gentlemen
and friends of the people had met with. He entreated the
meeting to give all a fair hearing, and to chew by their conduct
that day, in the display of a tolerant spirit towards each other,
that they were prepared for the enjoyments of those rights
which the Bill was meant to restore to them.

Quietness having now been obtained,
Mr. BROOKS, another operative, °Nested, that those who
got up the meeting only wished to make tools of them by their
proposed address. Let the original address be gone through,
and let the other follow, and he felt it was impossible for the
people to understand the former unless it was explained.
Mr. HARVEY then rose and said, if he understood 'Mr.
Dyer right, it was his wish to create one hundred new Peer,
and he hoped there was not a person in that large assembly
who would support the creation of another Peer. Lord
Wharnclitre's motion for the rejection of the Bill was an
insult to the whole nation ; and after this conduct of
the Peers, were they ready to make another hatch of them

Mr. HARVEY then continued—l will tell you what to 41(,/
with the Peers, we will neither hang them nor cut their heads
off; but we will send them as Missionaries to New South Wales,
and compel the Bishops to go to the West Indies, to convert the
slaves.—(Loud and continued cheers.) He hoped that no in-
ducement would cause them to commit violence. Mr. Harvey
then read the annexed address, and said he was happy that
there was no intimation of the creation of Peers, but it recom-
mended the King to exercise his prerogative, and by that pre-
rogative the King might to-morrow create 100 new Peers. If
this point were explained away, be should agree to it. The
King, he observed, had likewise the prerogative of issuing writs,
as well as of making Peers, anoi he hoped he would exercise his
prerogative by issuing them only to the large and populous
towns.
Here some fresh confusion ensued, when

Mr. DIXON rose and said, all that was wanted ro arrange
their differences was, the insertion in the address, of " Annual
Parliaments, Universal Suffrage, and Vote by Ballot"
Mr. ASHMORE then read his amended address, which de.
precated the creation of any new Peers, and requested his Ma-
jesty to issue his writs to the large and populous town., and to
exclude the rotten boroughs ; and also requesting annual Par.
'laments, universal sufflage, and vote by ballot.—(Cheers.
Mr. BROOKS—He believed that fault would be found witlt
this amended address ; but he knew that those who called the
meeting intended to recommend the creation of a new batch of
Peers, They knew it was their duty to overthrow the Aristo-
cracy—they had broken the oath of allegiance—they had com-
mitted treason against the country. if any of those present
had done so, they would have been brought before the bar of
the country, and made to pay it with the forfeit of their lives.
The Aristocracy had declared that they would forfeit their lives
rather than pass the Bill, and he advised his Majesty to bring them
before the country and try them. They had thrown down the
gauntlet to the country, and the people ought to take it up and
hurl it with defiance in their teeth. Let us have the Bill with
interest, or not at all, and when they set us at defiance let us
meet them with new demands, and then tell his Majesty we
are ready to march to his defence.—(Here a considerable alter-
cation ensued about the proposed-alterations' in the address.)
Mr. M. PHILLIPS said that former efeitiens of Peers were
for purposes of evil—let them now hare them for purposes of
good.—(Cries of " No, no ; the Peers are become like calico
Pieces, good for nothing.") Mr. Phillips then urged upon them
the importance of unanimity, which in a meeting like the pre-
sent was every thing.—(Cheers.)
Mr. DYER then attempted to speak amidst great confusion
and repeated interruptions. He eulogised the Bill, and said it
would, he thought, remove all objections.--(Cries of " No,
no.") He then observed upon the impropriety of the people
pointing out to the King in their address the peculiar way in
which he should use his prerogative ; it was, in fact, an attempt
to limit his authority, which was all that the Tory faction—
Eldon, Wellington, Peel, &c., Ranted.—(Confusion.)
further noisy altercation,
the resolution, and the
amendment of the operatives (which we have before explained),
were put, when the amendment was carried amid shouting,
waving of hats, and clapping of hands. The Chairman 55115
frequently called upon by those who got up the meeting not to
put the amendment, as not coming within the terms of the re.
quisition ; but the meeting would stiffer nothing to be put
until the amendment was first put, and there was such an angry
and determined spirit shown by the multitude, that if he had
resisted and dissolved the xneeting, the consequence would
have been extremely dangerous. In the course of the proceed-
ings several missiles wore Bung in the direction of the
chair, and one or two persons narrowlya
regular troop advanced into the body of the meet lig
escaped having their
I eyes knocked out who stood
',I with tremendous bludgeons, which they carried on It eir
near the Chairman. Bosidc, all
boulders, but for what purpoie we do not know, as we saw no
I bathrai,,s