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No. 12,178.

LONDON,, THURSDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 22, 1831.

REFORM MEETINGS.

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FARRINGDON WITHOUT.-THIS DAY.
This day a meeting of the inhabitants of this Ward met in
the New Court, Old Bailey, in consequence of a requisition
to the Alderman of the Ward (Waithman) most respectably
signed, for the purpose of petitioning the House of Lords to pass
the Reform Bill without ,delay. At one o'clock Mr. Alderman
Waithman took the Chair, attended by Mr. Deputy Roberts,
Messrs. Taylor, GallowaY, Bousfield, Harmer, and others, repre-
sentatiVes of the Ward in the Common Council.
The worthy ALDERMAN, in taking the Chair, briefly ad-
dressed the meeting, congratulating them on the fact of the Bill
having passed the House of Commons, and expressing his hope
that it would shortly pass the House of Lords.
Mr. WOOD rose to propose a series of resolutions and a
petitiOn founded upon them. He addressed the meeting in a speech
of great length and in an eloquent manner, urging the necessity of
union amongst the people to obtain the speedy passing of the
Bill in the House of Lords, and to convince their Lordships that
the rumour of the people having grown cool upon the Reform
question was wholly without foundation. The speaker was loudly
cheered throughout his speech, which we regret that a pressure
of other important 'matter obliges us thus to curtail.
The meeting was addressed by Mr. Obbard, Mr. Bousfield, Mr.
Galloway, Mr. Roberts, Mr. Taylor, Mr. Harmer, and other
gentlemen. The greatest unanimity prevailed upon the subject.
Resolutions expressive of the adthiration of the conduct of his
Majesty's. Ministers regarding the Reform Bill, and the satis-
faction with which it was viewed by the people, and a petition
to the House of Lords, praying that their Lordships would pass
the Bill without delay, were unanimously agreed to.
Thanks being voted to Mr. Alderman Waithman, the meeting
adjourned.

BOROUGH OF SOUTHWARK.
Yesterday a requisition, numerously signed, was presented to
the High Bailiff of Southwark, John Holmes, Esq., requesting
him to call a meeting of the electors, at the Town-hall, for the
purpose of taking into Consideration the propriety of petitioning
the House of Lords, entreating their Lordships to pass the Bill
for the Reform of the Commons House of Parliament into a
law. In consequence of which requisition, the High Bailiff ap-
pointed Tuesday next fbr holding the said meeting. ,

WESTMINSTER.

(Concluded from our Paper of yesterday.)

Sir FRANCIS BURDETT, in returning thanks, spoke of the
success of the Reform Bill as unquestionable. , The universal
dispoSition of the people in favour of the measure ensured its
success. In proof of what the power of the people when exerted
in a_ just cause, was capable of effecting, he instanced the re-
moval .f the Test and Corporation Acts, and the last general
election, when, the spirit and, patriotism of the people having
Veen excited in a great and just cause, they had succeeded, in
spite of all the opposition of their powerffil, determined, and in-
veterate adversaries, in returning such a House of Commons,
that the boroughmongers themselves were already filled with
dread at the downfall of their power; for the advocates of the
people's rights sent there, under all the now-existing difficulties,
had proved by their conduct, and what they had effected, that a
Reform in the House of Commons was no longer essential.—
(Cheers.) He expressed his confident belief that Op House of
Lords would not have the foolish obstinacy toppilbse the Bill,
and the arrogance to assume to be the only people of wisdom and
prudence and moderation, and denounce all the rest—King,
Commons, and people—fit only for a lunatic asylum.—(Laughter
and cheers.) Re could not believe that when the majesty of the
public displayed itself in a unanimous demand for the concession
of the measure, that a set of boroughmongers would dare to op-
pose themselves to it.—(Cheers.) That they would eventually
be defeated there could not be a doubt; and, since it was evi-
dent that they must go, he hoped for the sake of public tranquil-
lity, they would see the propriety of making their exit decently.
He should that day take leave of them with confidence in the
prospect of meeting them the next time under the advantages of
the adoption of that measure the success of which it was their
object this day to promote. He could not contemplate so alarm-
ing an event as the failure of that measure, to what extent of
mischief it might give rise, he would not now pretend to say;
but of this he felt assured, that, whatever might be the opinion
of the boroughmongers, it was utterly impossible that any Go-
verntnent could stand which did not snake the establishment of
an effectual measure of Reform its primary object; no man, he
was confident, at this moment, possessed the courage to dare to
undertake the helm of State, without making it a condition that
his point of steerage should be the rights and liberties of the
people.—(Much cheering.) The people now were happy in pos-
sessing a Ministry composed of such honest and honourable men
as had never before composed a Ministry. A glorious change had
taken place. They were not now the revilers of the people and
the opposers of their rights and liberties, but their friends and
protectors.—(Cheers.) Of this people were assured, and they
would not suffer them to be put down, and their places usurped
by a set of men who would sacrifice the dearest interests of the
country to their own se:fish views.—(Much cheering.) In con-
clusion, the Hon. Baronet said it would ill become him to speak
much of himself, but something he might be expected to say in
return for the vote passed upon him ; and he would presume to
declare that he, for one, never would abandon their rights and
liberties.—(Loud and continued cheering.)
Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE, in returning thanks, begged to ask the
opponents of Reform what further proof could be afforded by the
people that they were determined the Bill should pass, than the
condUct of the electors of Westminster this day offered, in con-
junction with the conduct of the people in every other part of the
metropolis, and the country generally? But it seemed they were
determined not to take the opinion and quiet demand of the
people for justice, butwere endeavouring to goad them on to that
conduct, their disposition to which they had made the ground
for keeping them in bondage. But they were disappointed; the
people of England,• of all people on the face of the earth, were
patient under oppression and sufferings, which other nations'
would not submit to for a moment.—(Cheers.) Did they want
them to assemble tumultuously to maintain their demands by
violence? They heard their honest voices; and paid no attention;
did they want their strong right arms?-(Cheers.) Yes, it was plain
they wanted to drive them to do that which lie was sure they would
not do. But he would have them pause and relent in time. They
would be answerable for every misery which their in atuation
might produce, should their opposition succeed in defeating the
wishes of the people; they would be answerable for every drop
of blood spilled, not only before the offended tribunals of their
country, but before the throne of the Almighty himself! But of
such a result he had no fear. The people knew too well the ad-
vantage which had been taken, and would again be taken, of
any indiscretion of theirs by their enemies. They were now sen-
sible that it was wisdom and prudence in them to be temperate.
To him it seemed impossible that this great measure of public
justice should be refused by the• House of Peers. When the
King and people had spoken out in its approval, was there an-
other body in the State who should dare to say " We will not
consent ?"—(Cheers.) No, he firmly believed not. In effect this
Bill had passed—the fiat of the people had decided that the
Bill had passed. He trusted that, en the trial came, there
was not a man in the House of Pees who would not say " It
is is not fit I should interfere in a matter in which my own in-
terests are concerned."— (Cheers.) The House of Lords hitherto
had escaped complaints; for they had contrived to do
all the mischief in the House of Commons.—(Laughter.) His
colleague had made a distinction between those iron Barons of
old, who had maintained the liberties of the people, and those
silken Lords who had choaked up that Chamber from which for
so many years laws had been dispensed to this country. Hitherto
the stream of Royal favour had been running in one direction—
all the Peers created since the reign of George 111. had been
supporters of every measure adverse to the rights and liberties of
the people. This could now be remedied—and it would be, should
a necessity appear for it.—(Cheers.) While the people were the
source of the House of Commons, the King was the head and
fountain of the House of Lords. The Hon. Baronet concluded
a very long and able speech by affirming that, when they next
met, he sincerely believed he should have to congratulate them
on the success of their present exertions.—(Cheers.)
Mr. DE NEAR proposed a vote of thanks to the High Bailiff,
and that gentleman having returned thanks, th e meeting dispersed.

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FRENCH PAPERS.

(From the Diario do Governo.)

PRICE 7D.

(From the Messager des Charnbres, dated Monday.)

PARIS, SEPT. 18.—The public sympathy for the cause
of the Poles is so powerful and so just, we have so much
room in our hearts for grief, that there is little left for
reason and political calmness. The following observa-
tions, therefore, arising as they do from old recollections,
will excite attehtion

In 1794 and 1795, Kosciusko raised the standard of
independence. He had to combat at the same time against
the Prussians and the Russians, and sustained the war for
15 months, with different chances of success. At last
Suwaroff, at the head of the Russian army of Moldavia,
carried by assault the faubourg of Praga, and Warsaw was
obliged to surrender at discretion.

At that period France was in a state of warlike and ex-
cited patriotism ; 500,000 volunteers were fighting for
liberty. The enemy of the National Convention, and that
of the Committee of Public Safety, gave invincible
strength to our arms. Moreau, Pichegrtr, Hoche, Dam,
pierce, and many other heroes, had berm! to sequins repu-
tation-.our troops had conquered all the right bank of
the Rhine and Belgium, and the Kings of Prussia and
Spain demanded peace of the Committees of the Con
vention.

And yet the France of that period, so enthusiastic, and
whose population formed 14 armies, that France did no-
thing, and could do nothing for Poland, because she had
to sustain a terrible war upon the entire circle of her fron-
tiers.

The Convention and its Committees were as well aware
as people now are, that the diversion of the Poles in the
north was advantageous to the military operations of our
armies on the Rhine; but it felt at the same time the im-
possibility of reaching Poland without baying first con-
quered the whole of Germany. That assembly, so obsti-
nate in its internal policy, abstained from manifesting a
blind perseverance in its external affairs. It paid atten-
tion to the pacific overtures of Prussia an 4 Spain, think-
ing it a sufficient advantage to France to have detached
those two Powers from the coalition. For this conduct of
the National Convention, for the wisdom exhibited by the
most indomitable and the most vigorous Government
which France ever possessed, the present generation may
derive a lesson, for it is perfectly applicable to present cir-
cumstances.

Napoleon arrived in Poland, but not by means of a
coalition. He had conquered Austria separately, and made
peace with her. He then vanquished Prussia, of which
he took military possession, and there remained no enemies
but the Russians. The territory and population of France
were then greater than at present, and Napoleon, who was
master of it, possessed Piedmont, Italy, the left bank of
the Rhine, Belgium, and Holland. He had under his orders
the troops of the Germanic Confederation, and, in short,
he was suffered to dominate over the whole of continental
Europe. The war with Spain had not then taken place.
At the present period a war in favour of Poland would
have become a general war round our frontiers. It would
have been necessary, as has been ttuly remarked in the
Chamber of Deputies, to make again the campaigns of the
republic and the empire, in order to reach the Vistula. It
would have required 16 years-of victories (1792 to 1808),
or even supposing that we had marched twice as quick as
our predecessors, who certainly were not destitute of
French energy and patriotism, eight years of consecutive
triumphs would have been necessary. Is it not probable,
therefore, that Poland would have been worsted during
that long interval.
The accusations now brought against the French Go-
vernment are destitute both of truth and reason, and may
not Poland therefore be put forth as the pretext to effect
a social overthrow instead of a Constitutional revolution?
Let the truth be frankly spoken—let the discontented say,
" what we wish is war with the whole of Europe," in
order to afford the opportunity of making France a re-
public. It is now for France to say, if she effected the
revolution of July with this intention, or if she prefers to
labour peaceably for her liberties and her internal prospe-
rity, but at the same time to be armed against all aggres-
sion from other Powers.

An attempt was made to-day to renew the disorders, of
which the first symptoms were exhibited yesterday.—
Groups of from 100 to 200 individuals were formed in the
garden of the Palais Royal. They appeared to be men
out of work, and seemed to be just that description of
persons observed during former troubles to wait for the
word of command. Some of them, more prudent, do not
venture out till dusk.

BRAZIL AND LISBON PAPERS.

RIO DE JAIME°, JULY 13.—The Regency, in the
name of the Emperor, has appointed Diego Antonio Feijo
Minister of State for the department of Justice and Eccle-
siastical Affairs,

JULY 14.—The accounts that have been received up to
this day from all parts of the Empire are very satisfactory,
as they assure us that the greatest confidence prevails
there in the Government established in consequence of the
events of the 7th of April. From every one of them con-
gratulations to the Regency are sent protesting firm adhe-
rence to the new system, and the patriotic resolution to
oppose anarchy wherever it may appear. It is therefore
matter of surprise that there should be in the capital per-
sons who, under the pretext of patriotism, despise justice
and endeavour to excite discord.