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[MORNING CHRONICLE.]
The system of dissection of the public expen-
diture, which has been recently adopted, is no
doubt far from being agreeable to Ministers.—
Neither do we conceive it to be very agreeable
to the generality of Members, though it is a re-
vival of the practice of Parliament in days when
it was really a controul on the Crown. It re-
quires no great penetration to discover why this
system may not be very acceptable even to men
who dislike wasteful expenditure in the abstract,
and who are not influenced by corrupt motives.
It is easy for a man of a cultivated mind to make
a respectable figure on almost any general ques-
tion, without much labour or preparation ; but
no man would presume to speak on the various
details of extensive accounts, without first fami-
liarizing himself with them, which can only be
done by a labour of which few, particularly in
the upper ranks of life, are capable. The sub-
ject too admits of hardly any of those sallies of
wit, those coruscations of fancy which electrify
the hearers, and obtain such intoxicating applause
for the speakers. We need hardly wonder,
therefore, that the self love interwoven in our
nature should inspire Members with an aversion
for a useful but highly ungrateful task, and a
preference for a mode of warfare better calcu-
lated for the exhibition of individual brilliancy,
though less 'calculated to benefit the public.

[THE TIMES.]
Some debate having sprung up last night on
the presentation of a petition in favour of Mr.
Hunt, respecting a very celebrated speech of the
late Speaker, the subject of which was the sale
and purchase of seats in the House of Commons,
we shall subjoin the chief parts of the speech it-
self, from which it will be very clear whether
the illustrious Speaker's indignation was levelled
against a false charge, or a real practice !
" The question now before us is no less than
this—Whether the seats in this House shall be
henceforth publicly saleable ; a proposition,
at the sound of which our ancestors would
have, startled with indignation; but a PRAC-
TICE which in these days, and within these
walls—in utter' oblivion of every former maxim
and feeling of Parliament—has been AvcrwEn
and JUSTIFIED." ** * 4C Upon the whole,
Sir, that for which I am most anxious is_the
establishment of the principle ; being firmly
persuaded that honourable minds, which may
have hitherto deviated from what I think was
the straight path of their duty, or may have been
made to vacillate by the,practices which they saw
prevailing around them with impunity, will shrink
from them with abhorrence when they find them
condemned by a 'specific law ; and other men, if
actuated by motives less honourable, will be re-
strained by fears not less efficacious."

[MORNING POST.]
The German Journalists are still in doubt as
to the actual fate of Ali Pacha, though we fear
the account of his death will ultimately prove
correct; and when we consider what a powerful
auxiliary he has been to the cause of the Greeks,
we do not hesitate to say that the fatal event
will be infinitely regretful to us. For the pre-
sent, however, the statements are very contra-
dictory upon the subject. Some of them doubt-
ing the fact, consider the report of his death to
have originated with himself, for the purpose of
deceiving his enemies; while others state, that
Ali's wife, a Greek Lady, had promised to
give him up, dead or alive, to the Turks.—
But this story bears scarce a feature of pro-
bability. What ! a Greek Lady give up the
most powerful ally of her oppressed country to
their barbarous and tyrannous rulers—and that
Greek Lady a wife, too, giving up her husband !
The thing is surely impossible—we cannot for a
moment give credence to so monstrous a tale.
It appears that complaints similar to those
which pervade the Agricultural interests in this
country have of late become not less general
throughout the Netherlands. Several petitions
have been presented to the Second Chamber of
Legislation praying for measures to relieve the
distress of the Agriculturists. Some wish the
importation of grain to be prohibited or re-
stricted ; others desire some modification of the'
salt duty.

[BRITISH PRESS.]
Petitions continue to be presented in the
House of Commons from various parts of the
country, prayinc, for a remission of the remaining
part of Henry Hunt's sentence. Mr. Lambton
presented a Petition last night, signed by 4,820
inhabitants of the town of Newcastle-noon-
Tyne, .praying for Mr. Hunt's liberation; but
the terms in which it was couched grated
too harshly upon the ears of a large majority
of the Members, and the Petition was in conse-
quence rejected. The expressions were un-
doubtedly harsh, and but ill calculated to con-
ciliate the favour of the House for the benefit of
the individual whom the Petitioners professed to
serve ; but they contained some wholesome truths,
and were undoubtedly not more harsh than the
terms of many other Petitions which have been
from time to time received by the House upon
the subject of Parliamentary Reform. The House
of Commons ought not to weigh in an over-nice
balance the language of every Petition that is
addressed to them. When free men perceive the
existence of gross abuses, they must feel them
strongly, and words will necessarily assume a
temper from the feelings which they are meant

[NEW TIMES.]
We own, we were greatly surprised at the pro-
ceedings of the Court of Common Council on
Thursday. The report of them was very pro-
perly headed in The Times, " Breach of Privi-
lege"; for certainly those proceedings did form a
most daring, and we believe a totally unpre-
cedented Breach of the Privileges of the House
of Commons; nor do we know how that Ho-
nourable House can pass over the offence with-
out serious animadversion. We do not wish to
speak disrespectfully of the Common Council ;
but it would afford matter for great alarm, if
such a set of persons were to be permitted to in-
terfere with the freedom of debate in Parlia-
ment ! The Constitutior, does not allow the
House of Peers, nor even the King himself,
to do what Mr. Favell, Mr. Waithman, Mr.
Galloway, and a few individuals of their
stamp, have done, in open, palpable, deroga-
tion of the dignity of the House of Commons!
—We speak not now'of the strict, technical rules,
by which all discussion of what passes in Parlia-
ment is regarded as a breach of privilege. Let
the two Houses act in this respect as (generally
speaking) they do act. Let them permit all fair
and decorous argument on their debates; nor be
extreme to mark what is done amiss by an acci-
dental slip of the pen, or a hasty expression in
the heat of debate. But the case is widely dif-
ferent when we come to consider the formal de-
liberate act of a Municipal Corp Oration. Here
power is arrayed against power, and even privi-
lege (risum teneatis) set up against privilege.—
It is a false and foolish policy to pass over such
an offence as this with disregard. Opinion
is the support of authority ; but what opi-
nion wilt the People in general entertain of
the House of Commons, if it suffer the Common
Council of London to arrogate to itself a censo-
rial power over Parliamentary Debate ? There
have been periods of our history when every in-
dividual who concurred in so daring a Breach of
Privilege would have been instantly arrested,
and punished with the utmost rigour: and
though we do not wish to see such harshness
revived, yet we do think it extremely impor-
taut to preclude all subordinate assemblages or
bodies of men from interfering with the Legis-
lature. Early in the French Revolution, the
Municipality of Paris began to dictate to the
National Assernbly : and from the moment that
this was tolerated, a door was thrown open
to the sanguinary domination of the mob. If
by the words " Breach •of Privilege," the
Editor of The Times meant to insinuate that the
language uttered by Sir William Curtis, in Par-
liament, was a breach of the privileges of the
Common Council, we should beg to know what
Privileges he means. Ever since this same foolish
Editor called the Common Council " the second
deliberative body in the kingdom," some Mem-
bers of that worthy fraternity seem really to have
been puffed up with the idea, that they are a
sort of Parliament-men—that Guildhall is a kind
of " Cheap Shop" set up against St. Stephen's
Chapel, with at least an equal stock of political
wisdom and experience. It is high time that this
laughable self-complacency should be corrected.
Let them talk as much nonsense and as bad gram-
mar as they like ; provided that they do not set
themselves up against the law of the land, the
Majesty of the Sovereign, or the dignity of Par
liament.

[MORNING HERALD.]
We yesterday received, by the regular mail,
Paris Papers of Tuesday, from which we had
previously given somo extracts by express. The
debate in the Chamber of Deputies is some-
what distinguished by a speech of ability, upon
the foreign relations of France, by M. Bignon, a
Liberal, to whom, it is said, Buonaparte in his
will h,s bequeathed a considerable sum, with an
injunction that he should write the-history of
French Diplomacy from the commencement
of the Revolution. This speech has had
the rare fortune (for a " liberal" speech) of
obtaining the honours of impression, by order
of the Chamber, unopposed by the right side.
The orator warmly condemned the acquiescence of
France in the seizure and subjugation of Italy—
which he said was in subservience to Russian in-
fluence—her non-interference in the cause of the
Greeks, in deference to England—her non-re-
cognition of the new American nations, whilst
England and the United States were eagerly
embracing the commercial advantages of amity
with them—her idle refusal to acknowledge St.
Domingo—in fine, her venting upon the eman-
cipated Colonies in the New World the humilia-
tion and utter nullity to 'which she was reduced
in Europe. It would appear that M. Bignon,
though of the Buonapartean school, does not
propose to place France i❑ a more commanding
position by military conquest. His view is, that
France should recover her power and influence

by a liberal policy in extending her foreign
trade ; and he illustrated, by a classical allusion
worth quoting, the assertion that commerce and
navigation were the sources, not only of wealth,
but of independence abroad and liberty at
home. " Gentlemen, " said he, " the Re-
public of Athens, in the days of her pros-
perity, seeing in her navigation the princi-
ple of her strength and glory, constructed
the pulpit whence the orators harangued the
people, so as to face the Pyreum, in order
that the orators, having the sea before their
eyes, should never lose sight of the true in-
terest of the State. But when subsequently over-
powered by her enemies, Athens was subjected
to the yoke of the thirty tyrants, the cruel policy
of her rival, Lacedxmon, in order to prevent the
return of her power and liberty, by diverting her
from their sources, caused the position of the
dreaded pulpit to be changed. The looks of the
Athenians were diverted from the sea to the open
country, as if commerce were necessarily the com-
panion of freedom, and exclusive attention to
agriculture rendered more easy and secure the
yoke of aristocracy."

PROVINCIAL JOURNALS.

(From The Liverpool Courier, illizrch 20.)
Mr. BENNE T's motion respecting the funeral of her late
Majesty has met with its deserved fate; it was negatived with-
out a division. No case, indeed, ever so completely broke
down, and in all the main circumstances, truth forced conces-
sions from the Opposition, which gave credit to that Government
they were so anxious to censure. Thus the public have been dis-
abused ; and the falsehood or folly of the charges against Mini-
sters, which were fulminated by the demagogues, and echoed
in the disaffected prints, made manifest even by the Queen's
party themselves. Nothing like an accusation was made out,
except 'what, from its nature, was a mere matter of opinion,
that Ministers ought to have sent the corpse in public procession
through the city. We clearly think they ought not ; first, be-
cause her Majesty herself had desired not to be made a public
spectacle. She plainly enough told those around her, on her
death, she had had enough of that kind of folly ; her eyes were
opened, when it was too late, to the manner in which her foolish
advisers had betrayed her. If Ministers had departed from this
direction, to which, certainly, they had no inducement, they
would have undertaken, most gratuitously, to have paid to her
public honours. This she had not merited. We speak not
now of her private conduct, let that rest in the grave, but of
her public conduct. The folly and faction which she ex-
cited and countenanced were not necessary to her defence.—
There was integrity, and justice, and honour enough in the
nation to protect innocence, had innocence appeared, with-
out appealing to contemptible demagogues and a base popu-
lace ; without choosing a silly London Alderman for her
chief adviser, and a Radical secretary to write inflammatory
nonsense to the ignorant. She threw herself not upon the
nation's justice and generosity, but upon the most contempti-
ble faction of the state; and, as the Marquess of London-
derry sustly observed in the debate, " every circumstance con-
nected with her situation had been turned into occasion of
cabal aryl disgrace." To assume, therefore, that Ministers
ought to have departed from her own request, gratuitously
to do her piblie honour, was one of those absurdities which
only the most doltish mind is capable of entertaining. But
then, we are iold, the peace would have been preserved.—
Nothing is moe improbable : the busy mischievous spirits
about her Majesty had rendered that so unlikely, that,
after they had, in ',heir ridiculous folly, protested against, a
guard of honour berag employed in the procession, which Dr.
Lushington himself admits to have been very proper, it would
have been the most hazardous thing which Ministers ever at-
tempted to have sent the oody, so guarded, through the city of
London, because its mob hai been excited against the military
by the published letters frora Brandenburgh-house. Those
letters succeeded in placing Government in the dilemma of
either not sending the guard of honour, and thus laying itself
open to censure for neglect ; or of exposing the military to the
insults of the populace, in the narrow streets of the city, and
endang,ering a loss of life much greater than could occur by
following the route proposed, had all the obstacles to it been
anticipated. In even this matter of opinion, we think it plain
that Ministers pursued the wisest course. But, whilst so much
sympathy was expresssed for those who suffered that day from
their own folly, we find none for violated laws, and the triumph
of a rabble, produced by the pusillanimity f a public officer,
most justly, as well as Sir R. Wilson, discharged from an
office to the duties of which he proved himself as inadequate as
the other was insensible. To all the evils of misrule the
Queen's partisans in the House were insensible. This is
the character of all would-be statesmen. They regard passing
events, without any connexion with great principles, or any
reference to their results. Give them their momentary popu-
larity, and the ratification of their party passions, and the
great interests of the nation may go just where chance may
drive them. On this subject it was well and manfully said be
our respectable representative, General Gascoyne, " that there
never was a more gross and disgraceful outrage than that com-
mitted by the populace in dragging about the body of the late
Queen, who in her life-time had been made the tool of faction
and of party, and in gaining a victory over the constituted
authorities." So the House itself felt, and Mr. Bennet put
his motion into his pocket, from which, had he been wise, he
had never taken it. lf, however, there were no great illustra-
tion of judgment on the part of the Queen's partisans in this
debate, there was much of the maxim, " De gustibus," &c.
or, in plain English, every man to his own taste. The cha-
racter of the Queen and the Common Council of London were
very much to the taste of Mr. Grey Bennet, and that of the
.Jury, who sat in inquest upon. the Cumberland-gate affair,
was as agreeable to that of Mr. Hume.

Sw wnLlNG.—Tradespeople and hotel-keepers are cautioned
against the artifices of a man and woman of imposing appearance
and fluent address, who have defrauded various persons within
these few days. The complaints to the police have been nu-
merous, but as yet they have avoided detection. The travelling
name is at one time Captain Jones, and at other times the Rev.
Mr. Jones. The female affects to be acquainted with many per-
sons of fashion; she is good looking, and about the middle size.
The man is about 40, and about five feet eight inches, and wears
powder ; they are attended by a servant in green livery.- A
working jeweller, in Charlotte-street, received an order to the
amount of BR and part of the goods were delivered at a house
in Gower-street, where the swindler remained two days only ;
mantuamakers, tailors, &c. were in full trade. They answer
the description of the persons who have practised frauds upon
Ladies' Schools.
On Saturday morning last, about half-past 2 o'clock, Hen-
ry Hodgkinson, captain of the watch, observed, in going his
rounds, the gate of Messrs. Fosters' yard, in Lawton-street,
Liverpool, open. He immediately collected four watchmen,
one of whom he stationed on Newington-bridge, and the
others accompanied him into the yard, where' they obser-
ved a man attempting to escape over a wall sixteen feet
high, which divides the said yard from Messrs. Machell
and Co.'s ropery. Hodgkinson struck the robber with his stick,
and he fell into the ropery, followed by the captain and his men.
After a search of one hour and a half, they found him on a shed,
seven or eight feet high, with his leg broken and otherwise hurt,
and with a knife in his hand. They conveyed him to the In-
firmary, where he will-lie until he shall be sufficiently recovered
to be removed to prison. It was discovered, on examination,
that several hundred weight of hemp had been stolen from the
ropery, and the dog belonging to the premises was found dead.
The prisoner is an old and incorrigible offender.

esterday a Meeting of upwards of 300 West
India Planters and Merchants was :held at the
City of London Tavern, C. R. Ews, Esq. in
• ..
the Chair.
The CiraineraN—The proper course was to commence by
proposing that the Secretary be directed to read the proceedings
of the last general meeting, and which he how proposed.
Mr. HOLDEN' the Secretary,, then read the proceedings of
the last general meeting, and the question that the pro-
ceedings of the last general meeting be confirmed," was carried
unanimously.
Mr. Eeets—As the business upon which he had felt it his
duty to call the Meeting was likely to create much discussion, he
felt that the more convenient course would be to dispose of other.
matters which concerned West India interests previously to the-
consideration of the business upon which they were more par-
ticularly called together. lie alluded to the notice which had
been given by the President of the Board'of trade, of his inten-
tions.° bring forward in the course of the next week a Bill re-
lative to the West India trade. As he had not seen the Bill It
was impossible for him to lay before the Meeting the details of
the measure, but he would take the liberty to read an official
communication, which stated the principle and outline of the
measure. This document stated that it was proposed to lay open
the trade between the British West India Islands and Colonies,
and to give a protecting duty to the North American Colonies
upon all goods imported from the United States of America._
At a Meeting like the present, composed of West India
Planters and Merchants, it would be idle to take ',up their time
in descanting upon the advantages likely to accrue to the colo-
nies'frone measures of this sort; and it was perhaps equally su-
perfluous to inform them that other bodies considered this mea-
sure likely to interfere with their interests; he had received
from the Chairman of a Meeting of Shipowners a communica-
tion, stating, that that Body considered such a measure as likely
to have an injurious effect upon their interests. He would not
venture to suggest any particular course to be pursued by the
Meeting, but he would submit to their consideration the pro.
priety of taking some precautionary measures in case the Ship_
owners or any other body should attempt to defeat the kind in-
tentions of the President of the Board of Trade. li e begged leave
to have it fully understood, that in making this suggestion he
was not influenced by any distrust of the President of the Board
of Trade, who he (Mr. E.) felt it his duty to state, had acted in
all matters relating to the colonies, upon which he had had oc-
casion to confer with him, in a frank and candid manner. He
knew the principles of that Right Hon. Gentleman to be not
only sound, but liberal and enlightened—principles which
could not be influenced either by calumny or importunity ; but
he would submit, that the meeting, out of consideration for their
own characters, and for the friendly disposition manifested by
the President of the Board of Trade and the Government,
ought, in the event of opposition by any body of persons, to
strengthen their hands by some public demonstration of their
opinions in support of the measure which Government intended
to bring forward.
Mr. HIEBERT_In anticipation of the contingency alluded
to by the Hon. Chairman, a Petition hail been prepared, which
he should submit to the meeting for signatures, and which would
be presented to the House of Commons, in case of any opposi-
tion, or which he should rather would be presented as a precau-
tionary measure. The Petition, which he should beg leave to
read, was short, and avoided the general subject of grievances,
the discussion of which would occupy too much time. The Pe-
tition which he should now have the honour to read, and which
he now moved be adopted, was short, and confined itself to the
single point alluded to by the Hon. Chairman. The -Hon.
Mover then read the petition, setting forth in substance, that
the West India Colonies suffer great distress, from the heavy
expenses of cultivation ; that the restrictions on the intercourse
with North America considerably. increase the prices of provi-
sions and lumber, which can only be obtained through circuitous
channels ; and that the consequence of these restrictions is a
stagnation, amounting to an almost entire loss of the trade in
rum with those States. The petition prays' that Parliament
will take such measures as in its wisdom may be deemed most
efficient, for averting these ruinous consequences, by laying
open the trade between the British West India Islands and
Colonies, and the United States of America.
Mr. MITCHELL seconded the motion, which was carried un-
animously.
HIBRERT then, moved, that Mr. Ellis, the Chairman,
be requested to present it to the House of Commons._Carried
unanimously.
The CHAIRMAN—If any Member wished to propose any
additional Members to the standing Committee, he had now a -
favourable opportunity.
On the motion of Mr. C. N. PALMER, the following Gen-
tlemen were added to the standing Committee :—Capt. Charles
Ellis ; John Houghton James, Esq. ; Charles John Manning,
Esq. ; John Burke ' Griffiths, , Esq. ; Robert Grant, Esq. ;
William Bryant, Esq. ; James Inglis, Esq. ; Thomas De-
laney Hall, Esq. ; Oswald Smith, Esq. ; David Lyon, jun.,
Esq. ; William King, Esq. ; and George Wheatley, Esq.
Mr. HIBBERT then moved, that the Petition be left for sig-
natures et the Secretary's City Chambers, until twelve o'clock
on Tuesday morning, and on that evening be presented to the,
House of Commons.—Carried unanimously.
Mr. ECUs thought the more convenient mode by which he
could put the meeting into the possession of the business which •
lie intended to submit to their consideration, would be to read.
the Resolutions of the Standing Committee, in pursuance of
which he had felt it his duty to call the meeting.
The resolutions merely stated the necessity of convening this
Meeting in consequence of the Petition and Memorial of the
West India Dock Company, the contents of which had been
communicated to the Chairman of the West India Planters in
the following letter from the Chairman of a Meeting of the
West India Dock Directors :
" West India Dock House, 18th Feb. 1822.
" DEAR SIR—I have the honour to acquaint you, for the
information of the West India
_Planters add Merchants, that
the Directors of this Company are still in negociation with his
Majesty's Government, upon the subject of the Company's
exclusive privileges ; and, although these negotiations have not
been brought to a conclusion, or even carried so far as to
enable the Directors to determine whether they shall make their
application to Parliament during the present Session, they feel
it right to communicate to the West India Body the measures
which they have taken. •
" I am, therefore, desired to enclose to you the copy of a
Memorial which is now under the consideration of the Board of
Trade, and to express the hope of the Court of Directors, that
the Planters and Merchants will concur in the general yiew of
the question taken in that document. The Directors cannot but
recollect that it is to the 'West India Planters and Merchants
that their establishment owes its origin ; and when they re-
vert to the considerations which induced the 'West India Body
originally to promote the undertaking, they find them peculiar-
ly applicable at the present time. At a Meeting held at the
London Tavern on the 13th December, 1798, at which up-
wards of one hundred Planters and Id erchants were present,
it was unanimously decided, that the numerous advantages to
be expected from establishing the Docks at the Isle of Dogs,
might all be defeated unlesS the Legislature should render it
obligatory on the ships trading to and from the West Indies to
confine themselves to the use of the Docks and Warehouses
set apart for their reception, and calculated for their accommo-
dation. '

" The Directors feel confident, that the experience of near
twenty years will have strengthened the conviction expressed in
this resolution, and that the Planters and Merchants will be
induced to use their influence in support of a system so essen-
tial to their interests, and to preserve the integrity of an Esta-
blishment which may be said to be peculiarly their own.
" The great object of security to the trade, which, if aban-
doned at this crisis, can never be placed upon the same advan-
tageous footing on which it stands under the West India'Dock
system, is of such paramount importance, that the Directors
trust that you will think it expedient not to allow objects of a.
minor consequence, which the Directors will, at all times, be
ready to discuss and adjust, to interefere with its attainment.
" In conclusion, I have only to assure you that the Direc-
tors feel that the interests of the West India BOdy and those of 'l'
this Company are inseparably united ; and that it is their
ardent desire to promote both to the utmost of their power.
" I have the honour to be, &c.
" WILLIAM MITCHELL, Chairman."
'He should also read a copy of the Memorial presented by the -
West India Dock Company to the Board, and the petition 0
that Company to the House of Commons, praying for leave to.
bring in a Bill, for the continuance of the Clauses, which coma;
pelled all West India Merchants to unload their shipping in
the West India Docks.
The memorial to the Lords of the Committee of Privy Coun-
cil for Trade, dated 2d February, goes at great length into a

statement of the causes that led to the formation of the Docks,
a detail of the proceedings, shewing how effectually, they had
answered the objects contemplated on their formation, by af-
fording to the merchant protection from the plunder, which had
always existed to a great extent before their formation, and to
the revenue the most ample security. In support of the inte-
rests of the Dock Company, the memorial travels into the
Reports from 1798 onwards, selecting parts of those reports, and
the evidence on which they were founded, and exhibiting state-
ments of the extent of accommodation provided beyond what
was origitally proposed. This part of the case was elucidated
by the following statement of the Stock on hand at one time,
-compared with that for which provision was to be made by the
-original plan

Housed.

Originally Excess.
proposed.
40,000 56,769
23,500 47,575
433,648
10,000 19,158

s'Sussar (Casks and Chests)... 102,769
Coffee, Cocoa, and). Casks 70,875
Pimento
Rum and Wine (Casks) ... 35,158
Mahogany Logs) 14,021
Dye Woods (Tons) 21,663
After various other, arguments in support of their alleged
claimS to the continuance, in a great measure, of those in-
dulgences which they enjoyed under the present Charter,
rth, e Memorial concludes—" Your memorialists entreat the
fullest investigation of the Company's case by your Lordships,
confident that you will he satisfied with the adequacy of their
docks Sr id warehouses for the accommodation of the West India
Trade, for which they were originally formed ; with their ses
curity as an integral part of the warehousing system ; with the
advantages derived by the planter, the merchant, and the shiP-.
owner; and, above all, with the peculiar benefits to the Reve-.
nue, which result from the classifidation of so important ,a picir-
tion c the imports of the country ; and that your Lordships
• feel the danger of putting to hazard all these advantages
by any innovation ; never losing the recollection, that if a sys-
tem, which laborious application and long experience have
brought,as nearly as may be to perfection, should, iddeference
to speculative or interested views, be subverted, the utmost
efforts of the legislature would, probably, be ineffectual to its
restoration, although every party, even those who 'had contri-
buted to its overthrow, might bitterly regret its loss. And your
:Memorialists," &c.
The Petition was of the same purport as the Memorial.
The Standing Committee, after having resolved to submit
these papers to_ your consideration, further resolved that the
Chairman should submit to this Meeting, that in the opinion'of
the Committee, a Petition ought to be presented to the House
Of Commons by, the West India Planters and Merchants, pray-
big for a fUll investigation of the Accounts of the West India
Dock Company, and a revision of the clauses in the several
Acts of Parliament made for regulating those Docks, previous
to 'the passing of the Bill prayed for by the Dock Company.
Mr. PaLmEn.—lt mighrbe expected that some Member of
the Committee which had passed the resolutions which had been
read by the Chairman, should place the grounds upon which
that Committee had agreed to the resolutions in such a shape as
would enable the Meeting to come to a fair and impartial opi-
nion. It was for .the purpose of performing that duty as a
Member of the Committee that he should take the:liberty of
saying a few words, and in doing so he must express his:regret
that that duty had not fallen upon some person more
competent to the important task—important whether con-
sidered as connected with a great public body, but more
important when it was considered that the business upon
which they had met would perhaps have the effect of deciding
whether the connexion which had so long subsisted between
the 'West India Planters and Merchants, and the West India
Dock Company should or should not be dissolved. For the
purpose of enabling the Meeting to decide upon that question,
he should beg leave to submit the petition framed in support of
the recommendation of the Committee, as a Member of which
he ought, perhaps, to make a few observations, to induce the
Meeting to act upon that recommendation ; but in the few ob-
servations which he should make, he begged to be considered as
making them in the character of a "West India Planter. He
did not now.mean to inquire whether, upon general principles of
-political economy, the support or the destruction of a monopoly
would be advisable. Indeed, he did not think it within the
province of a meeting of "West India Planters, oppressed as they
were by the pressure of the times, to take into consideration
whether or not the destruction of a monopoly would hurt any
other interests. He would say to them, a in God's name, take
that assistance of which you stand so much in need, whether it
be effected by a destruction of a monopoly, an advance in price
for your commodities, or a diminution of charges and expense."
He considered the present application a the Vest India Dock
Company to be an application .to the West India Planters
• and Merchants to co-operate with them in procuring the
continuance of the compulsory causes, namely, that they the
Planters and Merchants, must go exclusively to the West India
, Docks. He was glad to see that that Company had thought
_proper to make this appeal—he was glad. to'find that they had,
thought it necessary to apply to an interest (which did not ap-
pear to him to make a prominent figure in their Memorial) in
.seaport of their views. He thought that CoMpany had acted
right. He did not speak with any false feelings of pride when
La said that the true chance of a renewal of their Charter would
be diminished; if not destroyed, without the co-operation of the
West lndi body—that body whose, ancestors, to the amount
'of one hundred, had, as stated in the Meniorial, been most
forward in procuring that Charter. He was glad now to see
meeting of their successors—a meeting composed of up-
wards of two hundred, met to decide how far the expectations
of their ancestors had been realized, and how far that Com-
pany which had been so supported had performed its duty.
In considering 'this subject, the Committee had but three
courses to pursue ; first, a decided negative to the applica-
tion ; secondly, an unqualified assent; and, thirdly, a middle
"course—an investigation, into the transactions of the Com-
pany, and a revision of the various compulsory clauses-)
'in.the Acts of Parliament. The latter course they thought
should be pursued before a dissent from or an assent to
the application could be given. The Committee had notgiven
a direct negative 'to the application, because in candour they
could not but admit that many, of the advantages promised by
this Company had been obtained ; and they also admitted that
some advantages had been gained at a fair and reasonable price.
—They were unwilling to give an unqualified assent, because
they-were of opinion, that upon many grave and serious points
an explanation was necessary. The Committee took this course'
;
And reserved to themselves the right of supporting or opposing
;the application of the Pock Company. Upon looking at the Acts
of Parliament upon this subject, he was surprised at the great
care which had been taken in these Acts of the interests of the
Company. The utmost latitude was given to their conduct,
but very little regard was paid to the interests of the West India
body. The Committee had other reasons for wishing to suspend
their judgment. In the first place, a suspension of judgment
did not'shilt the door against 'acquiescence ; it rather opened the
door in case arrangements should be made with the West India
body. It was for-the purpose of promoting this acquiescence,
that this opportunity had been given'—an opportunity of which
he hoped the Company would avail themselves. The few state-
ments which'be should make would shew that the West India
body ought tohave no connexion with the Dock Company until
some explanation should havebeen even. If the petition which
he should stibtnit should be agreed to, the opportunity of giving
an explanation would not be lost. That explanation.whech he
trusted would be given might be given before a Committee of
the House of Commons. He trusted that' the West India Dock
Company would not mistake moderation for forbearance, nor
think the, West India body ignorant of their rights, or wanting
in the means or the energy to enforce th'em.—(Hear, hear !)
He had. Vertlittle more to do than to state the grounds of the
suspension of the judgment of the Committee. It was known
that, by Act of Parliament, the West India Deck Company
*as to take a sum of 10 per cent. upon their original capital of
one million two hundred thousand pounds out of all the rates,
and after the expenses of management, the balance, if any,
.tq be applied in the reduction ofthe rates, as far as existing cirs
cumstances would admit. 'Now what did the Company do ? they
first took their 10 per cent., and if the remainder of the rates
Should not be equal to the payment of management, &c. the ar-
rents would fall upon the general West India Body ; but when
after the money borrowed by that Company had been paid, the
surplus of the rates, instead of being applied, as intended, to the
reduction of the rates, had been expended in buildings.-( Hear.)
—The Legislature had, in order to give the Proprietors still
further an opportunity of knowing in what way the Directors
had laid out the rates, directed that an annual account
%should be laid before. the Houle, stating the amount of the
rates—the expenditure and the alteration (if any) made in the
rates or duties, made payable by thiS Act. .I'hese were not
.only the words of the Act, but the words also of the interpreta-
tion of it given by a Committee of the House of Commons,
which had been appointed ih 1810, in consequence of the Dock
Company not having deduCted the ,Income Tax from their 10
per cent. dividend, and this Committee censured the Company
for such a proceeding. That Conimitte stated that the applica-
tion of the capital of the Company was satisfactoly—that the
-whole affairs had been carried on with attention and skill—
that. a reduction of the rates had been made—that the excess
of expenditure in that year was 26,0001., and that on the Ist
February, 'lBlO, the balance in hands was 52,0001. He would
beg the Meeting not to be deceived by the statement that
the rates had been reduced—that signified nothing. The
question was, had the rates been reduced to the extent
to which they might have been reduced ? if the rates
had- not . been so reduced, he had no hesitation in sating
that they. ought to have been, and that in pro Portion to
qlie difference between the actual and possible reduction the
West India Planter was Plundered.—(Hear, hear, hear ! )
"What became of the statement, that this was a bargain between
the Crown and the Company ? 'when it was stated in the Act
thatilere,were two parties interested—the first was the sub-

scriber to the original capital, and the next, the public which I
ought to enjoy these docks at low rates, after the payment of
the incumbrances. He would not comment upon these words,
but he would say that they clearly entitled the public to demand
a fair and full investigation.—(H ear !)—ln 1810 the Committee
of the House of Commons, in giving a reason for a reduction of
the rates, had said th there was then a balance of 52,0001. If
such a sum would, in the opinion of a committee of that House,
entitle the West-- India- body to look for a reduction of rates,
what reduction ought that body riow to demand, when the
balance was 448,1481. 15. 3d.?—(Hear, hear !)=-The balance in
hand, in 1810, had not been applied to any of the purposes of
the Act, and, in 1813, the balance' amounted. to 207,0001.
since which time it has accumulated, to an enormous amount.
The Meeting must not imagine that all the balances were suf-
fered to remain unemployed. No, the Company were not 41'11
negligent of their Docks, upon which they had expended—
For Works - - - £449,220 3 1
Repairs - • 365,916 5, 9

£815,136 8 10
So that in addition to their original capital of 1,200,0001., they
had acquired another capital of 815,1301. All this might be,
perhaps, explained ; but was it too much for a Body, like the
West India BodY, labouring under great commercial distress, to
ask for such an explanation ? If the West India Body went to
the Governm4ent for relief, they were met by " public distress."
If they asked to enhance the price of their goods, they were
met by "_public interests," and yet such a Body ought not,
in the opinions of some, to ask for an account of rates to
which they had-as legal a right as the West. India Dock Coin-
pan'Y had to their freehold.—( Hear, hear !)--He must take this
orporfunity of stating that the West.lndia Dock Company did
give in annual returns to the Parliament ; but he would ask, did
they do that which could be of any benefit to the West India
Body—make an alteration in the duties or rates ? He was not
now going into an investigation of the conduct,of the Company;
he should wait until after their explanation ; but there was one
strong point upon which he would put his finger, not for the
purpose of complaining; but of giving the Company an oppor-
tunity of explanation. The point was this. The first com-
plaint made to the West India Dock Company, of the enor-
mous balance in their hands, had been made upwards of a year
back, but notwithstanding this, the increase of balance during
the last year was 35,0001. He held in his hand a summary of
the accounts of • the Dock Company presented to Parliament,
from which it appeared that the disbursements from the year
1804 up to 1822 were, for—
Labourers and Messengers - .;£1,166,5!i0 9 3
Salaries - - 303,085 15 8
Donations and Gratuities - 25,086 8 10

Taxes - - - - - 333,047 8 6
Insurance against lare .- - - • 19,051 18 6
Stores
~. - - ' - - - 372,655 13 1
Works - - - - 449,220 3 1
Repairs . - - - 365,916 5 9
Losses and Abatements - - - - 67,949 19 10
Inc lental charges - - 76,745 7 5
Naval School - - • - - 12,259 18 5
Dividends - - - - 2,079,332 16 0

Total - - £5,330,912 .4 ,4

Such an expenditure ought certainly to be inquired into. He
knew well enough, that the only tribunal to which they could
appeal was the Parliament, and the body of Merchants and
Planters was ready to go before a Committee ; but the Company
was unwilling to join issue; He implored the meeting not to
bind themselves hand and foot for another term of years, until
after a full investigation of the accounts, and a revision of the
Acts of Parliament. In one word, the object of the petition
which he should propose for their adoption was, to suspend their
opinion, negative or affirmative, with regard to the claim of the
West India Dock Company, until after they should have re-
ceived that security for the future which would not only be com-
plete in'its nature, but reasonable in itself.--The Hon. Gen-
tleman then read the petition, which recited, in substance, that
the West India Dock Company had very recently (2-2 d Feb.)
presented a petition to the House of Commons, praying for
leave to bring in a Bill for the' renewal of their Charter, in-
cluding the re-enactment of the compulsory clauses contained
in the original Acts and Charter ; but which petition this
In,eeting, by their petition now read, pray. may not be further
entertained, until a full and entire investigation of the affairs
and proceedings of the Dock Company, and a revision of the
Acts of Parliament relative thereto, shall have taken place:

,
Mr. FULLER, in seconding the motion, said he could not
see what objection any fair dealing man could have to shewing
his accounts. if the accounts of the West India Dock Com-
pany bad been correctly kept, no danger could arise from sub-
miting them to strict investigation.
Ald. ATKINS complimented the Hon. Mover on the hand-
some and liberal view which he had taken, and on his delicacy
in abstaining from going into particulars previous to an expla-
nation. He was one of those who had opposed the original
establishment of these Docks, but the feeling which actuated
those who had come forward in support of the establishment of
this Company, was a desire to give a degree of capability to the
commerce of London. A few gentlemen had originally come
forward, and stated the benefit which such an establishment
would be to the revenue—waited upon Mr. Pitt, who, always
anxious for the protection of the revenue, had coinciied with
them in opinion ; and thus was this monopoly established,
which he looked upon as disgraceful to the country. When he
looked at the amount of the original capital of tie Company,
and at the sums since expended in works, he thfught the pub-
lic, had behaved well to .the Company in allawing them to
double their capital. He thought the Company had benefitted
sufficiently by their lease, and that the public had been to them
liberal in the extrenie. He would now appeal to all those ac-
quainted with the dock, to say, whether tiat liberality had been
met by a correspondent liberality on the part of the Company ?
With respect to the expedition in diszharging ships, he would
say, that many had been in the docts upwards of three months,
and had been then discharged at a period of the year in which
the rate of insurance was doubled. He hoped that every one
would view monopolies with disgust, and it was useless to say
that any great energy would be employed where one part had
not as much power to compel the performance of a duty as
the other had to control it. It had happened to himself to
have a vessel of 4 or 500 tons detained in the docks for three
months, during which time he had presented a petition to the
Treasury, which petition• was referred to the Attorney and So-
licitor-General, who gave it a's their opinion that the Directors
had exercised a power which they did not legally possess. .
Mr. Him :min' begged leave to return the Hon. Mover of
the Petition his most hearty thanks for the liberality, fairness,
and candour, with which he had brought forward this petition.
In what he had to say he begged to understood as address-
ing thenrin the character of a West India Planter and Mer-
chant. He did not come there to advocate any claim of
the West India Dock Company, unprOductive of benefit to
the general body of West India Planters and Merchants.
It was well known that he had become the first Chairman
of the West India Dock Company, and that at that time the
house with which he was connected possessed the means of
housing ten thousand hogsheads of sugar—means not pos-
sessed by any other house, and means which procured for
that house considerable business; but he, willing to check
the plunder which then prevailed upon West India produce,
had become most „active in promoting the formation of the
'West India Dock Company—he at the same time knowing that
by the formation of such a Company his own individual im-
portance as a merchant must sink. After stating these facts,
he certainly must take credit to himself for not consider-
ing any thing but the interest of the general body of West
India Proprietors ; and it would depend much upon their
own' conduct that day, whether or not those advantages which
had been gained by the formation of the Dock Company would
or would not. be destroyed. If what he had to say should
not convince them that they had an interest in the mainten-
ance of ihe present system,:he begged them not to pay any at-
tention to him. , He must differ from' the Hon. Gentleman
who had last- spoken as to the motives of the Gentleman who
had first suggested the formation of a West India Dock Com-
pany. There had been a prevailing opinion of the incapability
of accommodation in the Port of London, and there had been
also a prevailing opinion of the necessity.of moving part of the
trade out of the River, in consequence of the abuses in the West
India trade; and so satisfied was the majority of the Merchants
of London, that at a most respectable Meeting held in Nov.
1797, at the Merchant Seamens' office, upon the subject of
improvements in the Port of London, a resloution was en-
tered into stating, that the improvements were good for a
certain portion of trade ; but that with reference to the West
India trade, they were totally useless.. The formation of
a Canal from Blackwall to London was then resolved upon,
and of two Wet Docks exclusively for the West India Trade.—
He had sacrficed individual interest in'the promotion of this
establishment, and he had differed from many to act in unison
with whom he, had always considered a pleasure, and to differ
with whom, would have given pain to any candid mind ; but
he was happy to say, that most of those with whom he had then
differed had since changed their opinion, and had declared their
conviction of the utility of such an establishment. He would
ask-111r. Manning, Mr.,Long, and the son of Mr. Turner; all
of whom had then differed with him \ if they had not'since ex-
pressd their conviction that the removal of the West India
trade to the-Isle of Dogs had been productive of great benefit.
With respect •to monopolies, he would only say, that a mo-
nopoly was not necessarily odious. If, by a monopoly, care
was taken of the property of individuals, that monopoly
would not be considered odious. Monopoly would do what
competition would not do. He would take the competition
of the Water Companies, and he believed he might say, with-
out contradiction, that the inhabitants of London would be bet-
ter pleased by the passing of an Act of Parliament compelling
all persons to pay to one Company a certain sum for a sufh..

cient supply of water, than by the passing of an Act which
would extend the present competition, because, in the first in-
stance, a sufficient supply of water could be always procured,
which was not the case since the establiShment of an extensive
competition. Previous to the formation of the West India
Docks; the trade of the,port of London might be compared .to a
city, the greater, portion of whose inhabitants was afflictedhvith
a contagious disease. In the latter case the remedy proposed
would be to build'an hopital, 'every door, ward, and chamber of
which should be calculated for the cure of.the disorder; and this
being done,he would ask, could it be termed severity to compel
the diseased to go into tl is hospital instead of suffering him to go
at large ?"So it was with the n est India Trade of Lonflon. The
abuses in it were so great, as to render the carrying of it on in
ir the same place with other trades highly detrimental to the gene-
ral coMmereialhaterests ;, and it Was this, and-this alone, which
had induced Mr. Pitt to agree to the formation of these Docks.
What, he would ask, nad occurred since, to render a re-
currence to the former system less dangerous ? Were peo-
ple more 'honest ? Was fraud less ingenious ? Were.ships
more undet the' controul of merchants? He had no wish
to return to the former 'system of plunder—he did not mean
to say that it would,retura to as great an extent as in former
times, but it would open a door for the destruction of that sys-
tem which had done away with the evil ; and if that system
were suffered to expire, it would be impossible to revive it again.
He knew he might be asked, would you have. the West India
Body give an unqualified assent ?.No, he stood there to carry
into effect the 'Resolutions of the Standing Committee ; but there
was a manner of doing it which must not be overlooked. The
question was not now whether a measure was to be renewed, but
whether a new measure vas to be adopted ? He knew well that
unless the West India Bcdy asked the House of Commons for
le renewal of the Bill, that the establishment must fall, because
the basis upon, which it rested was its merits, and of these merits
no persons could judge so well as the 'West India Body. He
would admit, that there had been a quarrel, which he would call
a family,quarrel, but the results of which; he hoped, would not
be similar, because in all family quarrels, the members of the
family generally repented, and astranger generallyderived profit
from the circumstance. If he lead contributed to the irrita-
tion which pervaded the whole of the petition, he was sorry for
it, and he should be uneasy during the remainder of his life,
if he thought that he had contributed to that alienation which
pervaded the petition. It had been his intention to propose
a petition-containing nothing different from the petition which
had been moved, except a trust on the part of the meeting that
the House of Commons would • consider whether any better
mode of conducting the West India trade could. be devised.
He was satisfied that explanations could he given with regard
to the sums expended in repairs. The Honourable Gentle-
man had stated that the original capital had been 1,200,0001. ;
but the Honourable Gentleman ought to shave stated, that
the accommodation erected by that sum had not been
,more than sufficient for half the coffee and Sugar, and one-
third of the wine. The conquered Colonies, and the de-
preciation of price, had even an_ increase. of trade to this
Company, and rendered it necessary to expend large sums in
the erection 'of buildings. No man couldsay that the. Company
might not .at any time be called upon to expend 400,0001.,
as they were bound to procire accommodation for all persons in ,
the West India trade. In his opinion, there would be greater
ground for complaint if the Company, had not expended this
money and had neglected te provide proper accommodation for
the trade. The Hon. Gentleman seemed to think nothing, but
he• (Mr. H.) could assure that Hon. Gentleman that the re-
ductions had been considerable. 'With respect to the increase
of 35,0001. during the last year, hes,would merely say, that it
had arisen from an increase in the price of stocks, and that
there was an actualaccumulation. tie should not now submit
the draft of the petition which he bad prepared ; but when a
Committee should have been appointed; he. would move an in-
struction to the Committee to confer upon the subject with 'a
Committee appointed by the West India Dock company,,
Mr. CARRINGTON (Bariadoes), said he was surprised, after
what had fallen from the Hon. Chairman, and the Hon. Mover,
'that the Gentleman who' hid last spoken had not observed the
same wise-course' • and had-not abstained from going into par-
ticulars. If that Hon:Gentleman had done so, and had'not en-
tered into particulars in exculpation of a Company, against which
no charge had been made, he (Mr. C ) would not have felt the
necessity of trespassing upon the time of the'Mceting.. On the
propriety of the Petition,and in all which-had fallen from the
Hon. Mover, he eutioely agreed, and when he now noticed the
observations of the last lion. Gentleman, he did not do so in
consequence of their importance, but in consequence of the
quarter from whence they came. He was surprised to hear
such sentiments delivered by a person, the agent for the
largest of the West India Islands, and.a person who had a
chief and directing influencd in the West India Dock Company.
He was not there to examine into the motives of Hon. Gentle-
men—he was there to look at the effects produced by these mea-
sures—he was there to look at the securities afforded by the four
Acts of Parliament to the West India Body—he saw that se-
curity only in a few lines. The whole question here was, did
the Parliament mean that a reduction of rates should take place
after the proceeds in the hands of the Company should enable,
them to do so ? That this was the meaning of the act might be
collected from the interpretation Of the Legislature, in the Re-
port of the Committee of 1810. He denied that this reduction
had been made to any extent, he deprecated the profuse expen-•
diture of the country—he did not see why this Company which
had not contributed one shilling out of the ten per cent. should
give such large sums to Waterloo Subscriptions—to Ladies'
Schools—and to Bible Societies. He did not see why they
should raise a regiment at the expence of the West India Body
without asking their consent—he did not object to the institu-
tions for which' they had contribUted so largely, but he ob-
jected to the principle of subscribing to any institution without
the consent of the owners of the property. He supported the
petition, and should be much surprised if the Hen. Member,
the' Agent of Jamaica, submitted a petition,- the reading of
which he (Mr. C.) should feel it his duty to oppose.
Mr. LIT a` said, he was most anxious to have the accounts of
the Dock Company investigated, but he begged Gentlemen not
to be so blind to their own interests as wantonly to subject
again the ''Vest India, trade to that disgraceful plunder which
hc so well remembered.—,r. HIBBERT explained.
Mr. M
r. Irrams said, want of accommodation in other docks for
the West India shipping need not to influence Hon. Gentle-
men, because he, as one of the London Dock Company, would
undertake, in six months, to warehouse 20,000 hogsheads of
sugar, and iinsix months afterwards 30,000 hogsheads more.—
The obstruction to navigation need to be no excuse, because he
knew'a vessel which, might have come into the London Docks,
to have been three days outside the "West India Docks for
want of water. In the London IJocks property was as well
protected as in the West India Docks., • •
Mr. TURNER said, that his father, who had been one of
those opposed to the establishment of the West India Docks,
had afterwards confessed that theerhad been productive of
much advantage to the West Indi4 Trade. He was himself a
convert to 'the opinion which had been opposed by his.house ;
and he did not think the public ought to allow the West India
Company to turn to whatever use they pleased Docks upon
which they had expended 800,0801. of the public money above
their original capital. He thought the public had an interest
in these Docks which 'they ought not' to give up.—He should
movh as an amendment to the petition "'that the petitioners
agreed to a renewal of the Charter, but earnestly prayed for
such an investigation as would in future prevent excessive
charges."_
After some observations from Mr. HIBBERT, this amend-
ment was withdrawn, and the petition put and mined. It was
then put and carried that Mr. Palmer do present the petition to
the House of Commons. • _

A long and desultory conversation then took place. on • the
wording of two resolutions relative to the further proceedings in
this case (in which the Chairman, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Marryat,
Mr. Alderman Atkins, Mr. Turner, and Mr. Carrington, took
a part), arising out of the confliction of interests in the Standing
Committee on this question ; when it was finally resolved, that
the Standing Committee should watch over the progress of the
proceedings, with instructions to confer with the Directors of
the Dock Company, or any Committee appointed by them on
the subject —Thanks were voted to Mr. Hibbert, for his ser-
vices, ad interinz, as Treasurer, vacant by the death of Mr.
Beeston Long,
the
he was unanimously elected to that office.
The thanks of tlie meeting were alsounammously voted to Mr.
Ellis, the Chairman, for his valuable services, when the meet-
ing adjourned.

The trade in the manufacturing districts in
England is unprecedently brisk. All hands are
more busily employed than usual. The quantity
of goods which are brought forward exceed any
thing ever before known ; and the moment they
'are manufactured, and produced in the market,
they are bought up and carried off for home and
foreign markets. In this city, also, we learn,
that the export trade is great. We are in-
formed by'Excise Export Officers, that they have
not been so busily and urgently employed for
several years as during the last three weeks.
The river at the Broomielaw is unusually crowd-
ed with shipping, busily employed loading • and
undloading. Many of these are =Vessels of con-
siderable burden, from foreign countries ; and such
as, 20 years ago, the citizen§ of Glasgow could
not possibly have dreamed would have been seen
at the port of this city.--(Glasgov; Courier.)

The French Papers of Wednesday, Brussels
Journals to the 19th, and German Papers to the
16th instant, have arrived since our last. It ap-
pears by the following extracts that the com-
mencement of hostilities is considered not far
distant ; and that the object of M. DE TATITT-
SCIIEF?s mission to Vienna from the Court of Pe-
tersburgh is to. demand a categorical avowal
from the Austrian Cabinet of the course of po-
licy it proposes to adopt on the occurrence of
that event.

" FR ANKFORT,AIARCH 14.—The Court Gazette
of St. Petersburgh, in its Numbers of the ,18th
and 22d'of January, published certain articles
from Odessa, which first appeared in the Allge-
Zeitang of Augsburg, and which were
afterwards circumstantially refuted in the Vienna
Journals. It is worthy of remark, that
,the
Russian ,Gazette, while it publighes these news,
has not inserted any of the articles of the Austrian
Oserver, which are always in favour of the
Turks.--A corps of 8,000 men, forming the van
of the•great Turkish army, which is on its march
from Cnnstantinople, has arrived at Braila. This
news has been brought to Odessa by an Extra-
ordinary Courier.
(Extract of a Private Letter.)—" A report is
spread to-day (the 14th) on 'Change, that a com-
munication of the highest importance has been
made to the Austrian Cabinet by the Minister of

Russia at Vienna. It was added that the negocia-
tion relative to the affairs of Turkey had been
broken off, and that the Cabinet of St. Peters-
burgh had definitively deClared war against the
Ottoman Porte.—lt has been said that Count
'Buol Schauenstein, the, Austrian Minister and
President of the Germanic Diet, had proposed to
call out several corps of troops, in order to make
the system of Armed Neutrality adopied by the
Confederation respected. We can affirm that at
least this statement- is wholly unfounded,—
Two delegates of the. military Committee of the
Diet, Baron de NVogant and Mr. Eberle, officers
of the staff of the Austrian Army, who bad been
sent to Luxemburg and Rastadt, have returned
to Frankfort. The first was charged to examine
the, fortifications of Luxemburg, which will be
considerably augmented ; the second has made a
report on the difficulties there would be in erect-
ing a fortress at Rastadt, as was proposed. It
seems certain that this design will be renounced."

AIX-LA-CHAPELLE, MA acts 15.—(Extract of a
Private Letter.)—" The last letters received at
Berlin fromWTarsaw are not of a pacific nature. The
reports of war are renewed with more confidence
than ever in the capital of Poland. News had
been received there, which announced, in the
most positive manner, that the movements of the.
Russian armies on the Pruth and Danube were"
very decidedly assuming an offensive character.
The most important military dispositions were
making in Bessarabia, and the speedy entrance ,
of the Russians into Moldavia and NValachia was
expected. The 'Auks, on their side, were pre-
paring vigorously to repel this first shock, and
were receiving daily reinforcements. At Jassy,
the speedy arrival of the Grand Vizier was
spoken of, with 100,000 men ; these are pro-
bably the troops which have marched from Con-
stantinople, and which will therefore have ad-
vanced in a very short time over a distance of
82 leagues.. .A Manifesto of the Court of Berlin
is spoken of,' proclaiming its neutrality in the
events which are oil the eve of taking place. It
is said that this system must be supported by a
considerable arthy, which will take up its caw-
tonments in the extreme position of the Grand
Duchy of Posen."
PARIS, MARCH 20.—The Count de Balmair,
Aid-de-Camp to the Emperor of Russia, arrived
at Paris yesterday.
It is said that in the note transmitted to the
Court of Vienna, by M. de Tatittschef, requiring
the Austrian Cabinet to explain peremptorily the
system of conduct it purposes to adopt, in case of
a war, the Emperor Alexander declares that he
is determined to support the cause of the Greeks.
The stay of, M. de Tatittschef at Vienna is ex.t,:,
pected to be of short duration.

We learn from Odessa, under date the 26th of
February, that for the' last three weeks the con-
tractors have purchased very large supplies for
the Russian armies. A naval, expedition is pre-
paring at Rikolajew, on board of which a con-
siderable number of troops will be embarked.
The four strangers who were arrested on Sun-
day, and of whom we spoke in our Paper of yes-
terday, were not set at liberty till yesterday
morning.

According to another account of the event
which we mentioned yesterday, it took place at
Coucy, near Laon. It was to that little town
that abotit fifty insurgents advanced,while others
sounded the tocsin at Coucy, and traversed the
streets and markets uttering seditious cries. It
is added, that three of them have been arrested
by the National Guard, and that the others had
taken flight and disappeared in the woods.
As the official Journal gives no details of these
events, we must wait for more exact information..
We learn by the Journal of Niort, that the
search we Mentioned yesterday to discover Ge-
neral Berton was made in the woods of La.
Meillerage, situated on the road from Parthenay
to St. Maixent, and some others. The search
was in vain,, and it is thought that Berton has
quitted this country.
Letters quoted by. the Oracle of Brussels say
that Berton has been seen with some of his ad-
herents near Rennes. The Journal of 'that city
does not mention the circumstance.

FRENCH FUNDS.
March 19, Five per Cents
Bank Stock
FRONTIERS OF ITALY, MARCH 4.—We corn
municate the' following particulars from a letfer
from Salonichi, of the middle of February,which
are, indeed, at variance with other previous ac-
counts. Macedonia is entirely tranquillised,
and the authority of the Porte recognised there :--
" The armed bandg which collected on the
Frontier's after the last insurrection have re-
tired partly to Thessaly, and partly to Livadia,
where they have reinforced the Greek corps,
which have made considerable progress.—At Sa
lonichi itself, the most profound tranquillity had
for some time prevailed. The Franks enjoyed
all possible protection, and the Greeks bad not
been molested for some time past. Some differ-
ences had arisen between the Commanders at
Salonichi and Seres, but it appeared not -to
have any serious consequences. Three or four
thousand Turks are near Cassandra, ready to
repair on the first signal to the coast, where
their presence may be required, because
,the
Greeks in the neighbouring islands have been
reinforced, and threatety to make a landing.---
A part of Cassandra has been destroyed by fire;
the remaining parts of the city are desolate, and
there are scarcely 300 persons remaining of those
who were settled there last year.—The Governor
of Salonichi had announced that he shortly ex-
pected a Turkish squadron in the harbour, and
that he had received this news from Constanti"
nople. This squadron is said to be a division of
the Turkish fleet which has been fitted out in th,e,
arsenal of Constantinople and in the Dardanelles.
BRUNN, MARCH 2.—Prince Michael Suzzo ha;
met with difficulties on his way to Leghorn, an'
is now here. It is said that our Government/
which does not, allow any Greek to go to Greece,
has assigded him Gorizia as his residence, whithe,r
he will set out in a few days, but not pass throng
Vienna.
BRUSSELS, MARCH 17.—From the report off
the proceedings of the second Chamber of tb.,
States-General, it appears that several petitions