The Sun.
London, England, 1831-10-08 00:00:00

not the mob. For who has been more disc"'
the mob—who, through a long au honomal
more elaborately separated himself from the mot
ever been more anxious not to make common
the rabble, than my Noble Friend ?--(Hear, h
my Lords, there is a people.—(Hear, hear.)
a mob, there is also a people. My Lords, 161'e
middle classes of society in this country.
most numerous, and by far the most weqt!
this country. Ye who talk slightingly 0f thr's!
your houses, your castles, your manors, your e.st
brought to the hammer and sold at fifty yea's.
their produce would be as nothing compared
_vo'
perty possessed by the middle classes of Englai
is not property alone—the middle classes
depositaries of sober, of intelligent, of honest E.
ings.—(Hear, hear.) They are composed
hof
well-informed, of reflecting persons. If t
error, it is on the safe side ; it is an error
They have a contempt for political nostrums, a
of political agitators. They are not easily to be,
On the other hand, they disregard the soph'
would withhold from them their rights, they
to abuse, and as for epigrams, they dread the
than they would cannon-balls.—(Hear, hear.)
are a firm, as well as a thinking people, we
.1
authority of as sagacious a man as any in this
I mean the Noble Duke, who told us that
it impossible to carry on his Governmen'
their support. If, which may God of his rir- na Oar'
any circumstance should produce acts of tumtioltAe nople
rection in this country, it is by the support lbtatbregar
as contradistinguished from the populace; it is yyssar sod
port of the middle classes, which form the necehich per
wholesome link of connection with that mobwr (~estlf
Lordships choose to despise (and whose acts areartres.ruppoo
such as to deserve that feeling) ; it is 11 °ewe t't
alone that any Government will be enabled t 0 'b sure'
to restore order. To suppose that without ea.
any Government in this country could continue
to conduct public affairs, is to suppose an iialra's 0,1
To suppose that the support of a few Noble ,"(r* ssoo'
few Members of the other House of Parlianlebne
people,
counterbalance the absence of the support ef t d
eir-
is to betray a want of knowledge of the real stawas-:bro,'
cumstances of the country. The Noble Earlr,obserc°s
last winter, and had not an opportunity of close')
_tana
what was taking place. My Noble Friend did 'OOOO
tween the living and the dead ; but he found 'OOl
(Hear.) What was the conduct pursued by among the former, and his opponents among the politica
adversaries ? As a proof of their candour, the It'ciosJll
regulation of the Timber Duties—a measure intr°,f sotee
themselves—they themselves (with the exceptiane.,-, ;she
of their number whom I exempt from the eh for
ourli for ale
would not bear to be dragged through the 6,1,16 for rile
whom I entertain a high respect), that very f"a,dlootar
purpose of obtaining a contemptible tempOrrnlArstlec,ed',
—that Bill, which they themselves had but Just 1," arier,':
they actually negatived.—( Hear.) Loroefoo,
Noble Lord, in urging his objections to the new fosse°
said that the Members who will be sent to then legrtr:
Commons by it will be, not Representatives, hat ;a:11'1'r;
Does that Noble Lord consider that a man may
gate who has only one delegator ? The Wrong
have had delegates in great abundance.
be as much a delegate when sent to 'Orr
by one proprietor of a borough, as when se6goere:
thousand inhabitants of a borough. A loan c° 001'
or a Jew jobber, or a Nabob, or a speculating -03"°''
may send just as many delegates as there are '490°1
A delegate from such a person is a delegate underterests,,,,e
and hypocritical pretext of representing the in*--their'ro,
the country, when in fact he is sent to represenk begs:'
rests of his nominator. And here, my Lords, doer k
say one word with respect to the extraordinary ,j,
maintained by a Noble Baron on the Bench behfrisitlir
Noble Baron objected to granting direct access t°tia tow
ment to large towns at present unrepresented, a be rrj
tended that it would be better, if they wiehe4„j°l.loY°l
presented, that they should subscribe 5,0001. a": 0 re.;
Sarum, or some other rotten borough, for that 'el el'e,
The Noble Baron looked with horror at the br°-
highway, and preferred that the large towns ie '
should sneak into Parliament by this nasty, dirty Yr ' 01,1
—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Earl behind, b°wevtagac,!
that he has no objection to give representatives upfi
places as Manchester and Sheffield, but that hew °l,oo°'
do so as the proved corruption of other places brong 1. so!
them a just disfranchisement. Now was there eiveschit
thing so fantastic and untenable as this doctrine •
rpico
matters it to Manchester or Sheffield, whether otbbettaj; el;
ale rotten or not? Why are their rights to he 13-410
on such a pretence? It is no reason why I shoer Per
be put in possession of my right, that some ot“:/appli
son has not yet been proved to be in the wrong. should
to Johnson for ten acres which are my due, wha.,,,t„ oh?
I think if be were to say to me " Wait until Tha'",'•°georr'
committed a felony, and has been hung, and out of "'-tsell'
fiscated property, I will buy your ten acres, and glyae
to you ?" Should I not say, " But I want my
because they are mine ; I know nothing about
and I should be a fool if I were to wait until
committed felony before I enforced my right.
hear, and a laugh.) My Lords, it is nece.sarYiwy,
should look our condition in the face. The Tie'
High Monarchy Man, no romancers, no vision, °
must acknowledge the great changes which the
years have produced. The aisle speech of my N'
who addressed your Lordships the night heft):
lieves me from the necessity of troubling your
on this part of the subject. I had otherwise in`
endeavour to show to your Lordships the mighty
which had taken place in the Constitution of th'4l-jatf
which, in fact, is in itself a series of changes. nj
Noble Friend did this with a richness of matter, a",
a flow of eloquence which I should in vain attemPt
and which found an entrance into every
speech, a Noble Earl, intimately connected wit
Cornish boroughs, attempted, with profound
inr
show was a weak speech ;—That speech, that.
structive, and unanswerable speech, the Noble
racterised as " droll and amusing." My opt
parisons are odious.—(A laugh.) But I (j
that the speech of the Noble Earl, cheered an
as it was by many of your Lordships, apnea°,ci
to be a sort of chaos, full of frigid conceits
execution, of light matter and heavy word'
and a laugh.) My Noble Friend, on the con'
to your Lordships a lesson fraught with the
fragable reasoning and the soundest philosopos
such as the great miracle of wisdom of the se'
century needed not to have disdained to acknn'
There was not a single proposition, there was o°lo
epithet in that admirable speech, which Lord Bas-'
losophy and even his words do not justify and are Well was it said by my Noble Friend that yo!'
building up. Can men be governed in the
changing but restoring ; that you are not pulling' oi
tury by the same rules as those by which these
governed in the fourteenth century ? To surrti
an error which was not snore strongly denotinfe
Noble Friend than it has heed denounced hY e
modern philosophers. To stick by the old P"' st
Constitution, not to alter it, to leave it as it sc'
beginning, such is the Shibboleth of the party (11
the Bill. We are at issue on that point. I based'
shown, on the authority of Prynne, of Seidl is
of Glanville, of Noy, that what is now prop,* ost
innovation, that we are merely proposing °oast,
boroughtnongers from a possession which theYl3,lOOW
to have usurped, and to restore the Collstitt,,ux '
original character. I have endeavoured to
King's Ministers only propose what the state of
peratively demands ; that they only pror'4oll
mDst venerable Prelate on the opposite "
on the King to do on delivering to hint Hied-big
justice in the late ceremonial. His Grace t°l
jesty that it was his duty to destroy Ito
of iniquity, to restore things gone to decay, ent•sely
tain things restored. I say that this is Preetcslo•
th, Bill under your Lordships' consideration is
a, be
to effect. I serve a Monarch who has sworn th ne to
destroy the growth of iniquity, restore things
cay, and maintain things restored ; and wit&
in my body, and continue to have the haßour fa,that
vice, I will a',l the King in the performance
If the restoration of things gone to decay is beg
in the words of Canute to the tide, "'Thus far
go and no further," the surge must dash over •
shall stand fearlessly on the beach. I call on aanY,
Lord—l call on any Lay Lord—to meet the..rgro,
hove advanced on this part of the subject. will any
hove
the 6
Lord say that there has been no change in
character of a seat in Parliament? Is it net
that in former times a seat in the House of Coto!,'
ninetee.,
a burden of which all men tried to get rid ?
Is
that the saint law can be now operative, when
li all
a seat in the House of Commons is an object whit
long for? Can you return to the old law witiowutloy
a great change in the present law? Can Y 00's
things are not altered, and that you will uot ,eel‘
country a gross and violent change. •if Yo° srhee,io
restore the 01,1 'aw, or retain the 94.1 los sfeid,
things around you are changed ? nsed,`al iLta,.
ing of the changes in the law, to =vier , io
tration to the change which ha ...ken P'8_100(1,,
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aisle. The old law said that a tuba propertYet ivy
taken in execution fur his debts, pit then ;

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