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London, England, 1813-07-06 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The Boman Cotholic Relief Bill was read a third time and
passed.
The Irish Court of Sessions Bill, the Glass Duty Bill, the
Isle of Man Spirits Bill, air. ltemuneat►on
=llat►ktts Exemption Dal, find the Slave Trade Bill, were
read,a third time and passed.
The Report of the Consolidated Fund 13ill was received and
agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time to-
morrow. _

Lord Nelson's Estate Bill was committed, and the Report
ordered to be 11;c:civet' to-tuorrow.

UOMlL*ietlted r 4 front LI Petition fn ' •Qlr
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the name of.Gearqg Gough;
,tvho" tieeti iay..-gat,iero; for
the•Parisb bat.ivhd had iniprisot;cd sou Cc::
coiltit of a ti.tlficie!!l, hi his accoittitii,and
livered the whole of 104 it nods to the creditor 3., he 11:44 ov)1 beeti
a6leiito receive th n hectit of the Itiv.iverit i 1111;
account of a local Act: Petition prayed ti;r
dered to Ile on the table. ,

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The Skilit Lizeiiie Bill was read a third tune and passed.
Sie 11. CoLttitut;c:l. ii;•es'ented a retiticti frorb certain Dli:
tiller; to Ireland apinit the Distillery Lieettseßill.—OrdL"red.
to lie 'on the table. .

own,,A r elief wa.'cattiijiittecl, fiiid Itti;
part was ordered it, be teeeii-ed tu.n iorrQw. , , .••

Sir F. 13t;ancrit Faented a Petition front certlin
tents of the torint thid titiAlthourhood of Bristoli inning for
peace'.

NAVY:
Loyd toCtiaINE rhSe, in,ednstritietice of hitii6.;
lice', to Move a resolution on the subject Offthe
provision made tor Seamen in the Br;tiF4i serviee.,
tie had thought it better to put hit ideas on the
subject iii the shape of a resOltition; tiS by that
means Honotirable 'Members would be able tO
take the substance home with them, and td Con-
shier the shbject at leisure ; so that the impres-
sion Would be-More durable than by any thing he
could state in a Speech. His intention was to
call the attention of the flonse to those•r6ilsoo9
which induced our seamen 'to prefer foreign to.
British-service. Ile then read•his resolution : the
purport of it was, to impute the disasters which
had lately befallen our navy to the Way in which
our geamen were treated. That the crews of his
Majesty's ships were in a'decayed anthheartlesS
condition ; being. broken down and dispirited,
owing:to th-e.terms of the service, which was un,
limited. That our seamen could not be discharg-
ed in any case without paying SOl. for such dis-
charge :—that every difficulty was thrown in the
way of seamen to prevent them front being paid
their prize-money :—that men who had spent
nearly their whole life in the service, when broken
down by old age and wounds, were sent to what
was called harbour duty, which was most severe.
1.1.)tt there was no promotion in the navy but
through parliamentary influence. It concluded
by resolving, tbbt Parliament-should,early in the
next Session, take the subject into its considera-
tion, with the view to better the coodition of our
seamen.

The Noble Lord then moved the resolution,
mid pledged himself to prove every fact corruined
in it.

Mr. CHOKER accused the Noble Lord of a want
of candoor in not apprising those persons who
were possessed of information on the subject of
his Resolution of his intention of stibutittiog to
the Flutist: 'such a ntotioo. lie would take upon
himself to contradict the greater part of the ai-s
•sertions atade in the Resolution, and every thing
stated in it was 'grossly exaggerated, and the
whole was an infamous libel on British seamen.
The Resolittion began by saying, that our seamen
were heartless and wanted spirit. lie would take
upon himself to say, that no man in the ,Houe
but the Noble Lord would say that the seamen
who fought in the Macedonian and the Java were
lOst, because the trews of these ship we're spirit-
less. tie, would state a fact to the House, which
would prove in how far the Noble Lord was cor-
rect—during the tremendous action fought brthe
iNlacetionian, and when the battle t aged with the
greatest .fury, these spiritless men animated each
other in the conflict by-repeated cheers, and these.
cheers always commenced with the wounded men
in the cockpit. He likewise repeated the anec-
dote of John Humble, the boatswain of the Java,
who had his arm shattered, and as soon as lie had
a tourniquet put on it, returned immediately to
the deck, and went on pursuant to his orders to
cheer the boarders with his pipe. These were the
men whom the Noble Lord wished Parliament to
record on their Journals as dispirited and heart-
broken.—( Loud qwering.)—fle wondertal how
the Noble could presume to ask the House to
agree to so monstrous a libel. With respect to
the discharge of seamen, the Noble Lord, when
he said that no seaman was discharged unless he
paid SOL had said what was not the case. A sea-
man of the 'very first class only paid 801. and a
common seaman paid 60/. anti a landsman only 401.;
and when they were harbour-men or were wounded,
or had served long, only half these sums were de-
manded from the.respective classes. The Noble
Lord had once betore made a similar statement
to the House, and had said that he knew an
instance of a disabled seaman, tiho had been
obliged to pay 801. for his discharge, but the
Noble Lord had never yet stated the name of that
seaman, although he had been asked to do so.—
The Noble Lord had said that our seamen were
Heart-broken. They would indeed be so, if they
heard that the House of Commons could record,
or could listen with patience, to so ungrateful, so
vile a libel. So far from the restraints on seamen
being greater than formerly, that they were now
allowed to have leave of absence, whenever their
ships came into harbour, • and of late years this
indulgence bad been much extended. The No-
ble Lord had said, that there was no promotion in
the Navy bursuch as was obtained by the corrupt
influence of Parliament. Was the Noble Lord's
Cominission obtained by corrupt influence? Was a
red ribbon bestowed on the Noble Lord, for the
first time upon an Officer of such rank, through
corruption ? Was it the wages of corruption that
raised a relative of the Noble Lord's to the rank
of Admiral, and that made hint Governor of a
West India Island ?—He could state innumerable
instances to prove the 'falsity'of the Noble Lord's
assertion, but be preferred noticing those who
were relatives of the Noble Lord, lest he should
say that he did not know them. The lion um: -
able Gentleman then went on and speoitied at
number of the relations of Lord C. trim had btea
promoted. The resolution was not
s wetth,like a 1""t7
assertion made in the enth ,n wilao
it
was a deliberate, a studied thing,--thLll
the Noble Lord, not hastily concoo teat,
brooded over for six months, and then brought
exist ti fielinl; of interest for the Navy in
f hApeNr7tilz:,:erng
lotuti
oi
heNya
t07,%b,
hal eel
before them all at (Mee, at the very cud of a se,.
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sioo. 'lime Noble Lord would allow that there
osoms bcsid s leis
01:1 :4:::::::girlis'elellelbafsit difficult as
°aid that eibeblieviltielli''o the means of these
ffieultits, as the House had adopted his 9wn
ideas on the subject. If the Noble Lord %vomit
at once publish a pamphlet
-resolution 0 •
ws a
equivalent to one),---if the Noble Lord would
openly publish a statement of his ideas, although
he (Ur, C.) had not much time to devote to puo-

lications, yet be would undertake to answer it.
He hoped that if the Noble Lord had the pre-
suinptiou to press the matter to a division, that
the tionse would testify their indignation at suck
a series of imputationS agaidst the Navy, the Par-
liament, and" the country.
Mr. LOCKART Wished the Noble Lord to with-
draw his resolution.
Sir FRANCIS ItiIIDETT spike shot tly in favour
or the motion, and animadverted On the se, erity
with which the nonourable Se'eretary of the Ad-
miralty had spoken of the Resolution. The grand
grievance, in his conception, was sending worn-
ont ,cameo to what NvaS called harbour duty;"
where they were made to labour hard in company
with convicts (Loud cries of " No, no .1") Ile did
not know any thing of the Matter (Loud lam; titer),:.
but. he supposed it to be 'so. The boatswain of
the Java, who had.,behaved so nobly, might he
liable to be sent to that duty. Ile wished to
know whether he was not correct in saying so?.
Mr. CHOKER replied, that John 1111110de had
been handsomely rewarded by the Admiralty, and
had written a letter to the .floart.tt expressive -of
his gratitude, and secming.to be surprised that his
conduct was so much noticed.
Sir F. kW ttor.TT said he was not angwered,.
whether vv person in a like situation with I Tumble
not;; be sent to harbour duty
Mr. CROMER—" Never it is impo,•silde.-
Mr.ll.6se spoke in reprobation of the Resolu-
tion, And refuted several tnis,statements in it.
Mr. CALCRAFT likewise reprobated the It eSOhl-
- tiOn in the strongest terms, characterising it as a
most mischievous libel, brought forward, at the
very time when capable of .producing most mis-

chief.
Mr. WROTTESLEY spoke against the resolution,
and noticed the falsity of some of the iisariiims
in it. ,
Mr. STANIFORTH likewise spoke in the strongest
language against the motion, and refuted several
assertions in the resolution. •
Lord COCHRANE, replied, and expres::ed
lsimsell
willing to substantiate by evidence at the bar, all
,that he had asserted. He mention6thhe names of
three men_ who had been obliged toBol. for
their discharge. •
Mr. Caoxttit took down the names of these
Men, and said he wbuld. inquire into the 'cause of
their having met ivitli such treatment.
The question was-then put, and the resohnionS
negatived, every Member in the House Calling Out
' indignantly no, Lord -CocuRANE and Sir F. Butt-
DETT alone murmured aye.
The third reading of the Admiralty Bill was put
of until Wednesday.
" On the Order of the Day being read for the
third reading of the Irish Distillery Amendment
Bill,. •
Mr.TIRNIIY PARNEL proposed as an amendment,
that it be read this day three months. - • ,
Mr. SHAW and Sir NICHOLAS COLTHURST op-
posed the Bill.
Mr. NV., FITZGERALD SllppOrted it. The amend-
ment wits then negatived Without a division. The
13i11 was read a third time,and passed.
Lind CASTLEREAGH gt.i.ve notice, that be would,
on Wednesday next, !novo the Thanks of the
House to the Marquis of.Welling,ton and the army
under laic command.
The CHANCELLOR of. the EXCHEQUER moved
the order of the day for the third reading of the
Stipendiary Curates Bill.
Mr. DICKINSON opposed the Bill. The only
MI
merit of it 'S a sort of good nature it shelved to
improve, the situation of•curates, without caring
by what means. It was, he, thought, too late in
the session for. discussing so important a subject.
ARERCROMBY thought there, could be no
difference of opinion upon the principle of the
Bill, it only went to improve the situation of those
who performed the duty, at the expence of such
as did not perform though bound so to do.
Mr. P. Ssr yen thought the means harsh, and
the end not desitable. It would transfer the in-
come from the incumbent to the curate, and that
in a very unfair proportion. This effect would
take place at least in one fourth of the livings in
the kingdom. He mast, therefore, oppose the
Speaker's leaving the Chair.
Mr. Rosa said, there were only 1080 curates li-
censed, and therefore they were at the mercy of the
incumbent. Many of the curates were under GO/.
a year, and a great proportion under 80/. a year.
This was not a 110 y attempt to meddle with the
property of the. Church. The same had been
done even so early as
.the reign of Henry VI. '.He
must,' upon every consideration, support the Bill.
Mr. Wem /MALL thought that this Bill went to
provide for the Citrates at the,expence of the poor
Incumbents.. 'He must, therefore, object to the
principle of the Bill, particularly it indirectly it
went to abolish pluralities. , It went to establish
a tax upon indigence to support indigence, and
not a tax upon opulence to support indigence.
Ile did not think it would diminish Rectories ; on
the contrary, he was convinced it would increase

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Colonel Wont supportea the Bill.

It wot

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amore resident Clergymen in.all the parishes, ni
etutiale theta' to perform their ditty as they oug
to (1.0. _ _

Mr. Potz"CARZW opposed the Bill.
'I he CELAN egLt.on of the Excatgourn supported
the . 'the objection urged against .the UMW,.
sure by those who had taken part in ,this debate,
did not go against the'prineiple of the Bill, which
ought to be diseuSsed in this 'Wipe, but against
particular clauses, which ought to be dCbated
in
the Committee.—Strangers were ordered to with-
draw, and the gallery Ivas cleared,.but R division
did not take place. On re-entering the gallery,
xve found the House in the Committee.
The Cif ANCF,LI.OR Of the EX Cif E QUER proposed
a clause, enabling the Bishop to deduct from the
f,alary of the Curat'e-a sufficient sum to keep; the
parinnage-house in repair. —The motion MIS
agreed
&line, discussion took place on several of the
eluttse4 ; sifter which, the
.?;'louse resumed.
P,Atmlo,roN hrougl t the Report of the
c onnuittee, which was re,(lp. ved, And, ordereeto,
he taken` into forther consideration on WeduesilaY
INDIA ell ti1.(1..,Tr TatkltlLL.
On the Order orthaDrq:
i'l.ousideratioif the "teflon th, ring into further
ptitiy's Charter Bill being read, "t India Com-
, „ Land.CioTt„taßAun Said, as in going trhrough

the4etail of a kihioviti, sonic innccut'acics had
°centred' in S'CVCIIII of the dallies, he thought the
best course they could take would be try recommit
the Bill p'ro forma to-night, and, print it at
amended ; the report could then be bill-tight be-
fore theta to-morrow in a more complete form,
and he hoped Gentle Men would have no objection
to deter till the report was brought up any further
discussion that might appear desirable.
Mr. 'ft t?.NF..I- complained of the course taken by
the Noble Lord. Why was the report to he brought
up to-morrow, when he (LordC.) knew Marty 'Mem-
bers must
anecessarily be absent at Court ?
lie vita:-
dcrstood House would he ma the by. Colltnition,
and the subject would be brouglit o for discussion
when there were not five MetubLtrs present com-
petent to debate it. Since that HouSeXhad been
House, there never had been a Bill so, seamia-
lonsly hurried through it, and so mistmlnaged'in
every respect. If was an insult to the House to.
call this the measure of that branch of the 'Legis-
lature: Wit]) propriety it could not he sail to
pass through the House ;' anal lILYX it. 'vas to be
sent to the Lords, when he believed there wire
not more than fifteen Peers town_ pro-
-tested ou this, as he had done on fOr1115:1* ()CCU-
6011S, 110,'Llitst the indecent hurry which iliai ked
their proceedings., and contended that sotm• time
ought to be given to the East India Company to
accept or reject the Bill, before it WLIS read a
third time.
Lord A. HAmit.Tow and Mr. P.Moortr. thought
further opportunities ought to be given for fully
discussing the measure; and.wished time to he
taken to ascerte in the sentiments of the East India
Company.
Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, that as the other
House might agree with them or dissent from
them altogether, it was useless to endeavour. to
obtain the assent of the Company to the measure
before it hail pased the Lords. So far from its
not being known whether or not it ‘vould beae-
cepted by the Company, appealing to him 0 rea-
son for staying their proceedings, he thought it
an argument for accelerating them. It was not
intended to inflict this measure on the East In-
dia Company. They would certainly be at li-
berty to accept it or refuse it,, hctt whichever, were
nitiinately resolved upon, he thought it must be
the wish of
.the Proprietors that the question
should be disposed of by Parliament as soon 115
possible. With repect to the observations of
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Tierney), he.
(Lord C ) had .only to say,' aS he had been so
unfortunate as to hienr his displeasure., every time
th 9 subject ,had come before the aouse, during
the fonr months that this. hurried measure hail
been in progress, and as be could not now hope
to redeem hiniself in the flight Hon. Gentleman's
estimation, lie must Continue to pursue that course
which appeared to him Most conducive to the pub-
lic interest.
Mr. TIERNEY said, the Noble Lord,' far Iron;

improving as the measure advanced to matitrity,
grew worse and worse, an'd it seemed his remon-
s,trances, instead of making hitt) repent, haul ottly
the effect of making him turn out a nfore har-
dened sinner. lie wished to know wllat the No-
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lc Laird intended to do if the Charter were re-

Insect by the Directors of the Ea:-.it India Com-
pany ? This was a question which be believed the
Noble Lord was not prepared to answer. Hut he
reflected that if this were done, he would have to
bring in another bill on the subject even at this
late period of the session ?
Mr. AV. SMITH agreed with much- of what had
fallen from the Right I fon. Gentleman, but thought
the East LAI Company, if wise, would accept of
a Charter which went a great way towards 'giving
them their ten per cent. which, from the manner
in which they conducted their affairs, they were
not likely, to make in any other way.
Mr. TtEttxr,,i hoped the Hon. Gentleman would
allow the Company to have an pinion on that
subject.'
Mr. P. Moom denied that the insinuation
thrown out by the Honourable Gentlein'arr was
well founded, r •
Theßill Was then, recommitted pro forma, and.
some 'verbal change made in some of.the

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clauses.
Mr. TIERNEY proposed that they should again
go into the Committee to-morrow, that the Re-
port should be received nn Wednesday, and, the
third reading be liked for Monday.
This. proposition :was- not acceded to, The
House resumed, the Repat was received, and the
Bill ordered to be 're-committed to-morrow, and
to be printed as amended.
On the return of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex,
cueouen, a Committee was appointed to search
into the Journals of the Lords, for the purpose of
inspecting their • proceedings respecting Mr.
Palmer's Claims.
The Stores-Embezzlement Bill went through a
Committee, the report of which was ordered to be
received to-morrow.
The other Orders were disposed of, and the
House adjourned at Eleven n'cioelc. ' .

Florin grass has been chemically analysed at
Dublin, comparatively with the common grasses ;'
the result is, that a rich syrup, of the consistence
of treacle, has been produced from florin, whilst
that from the c,otrunon meadow grasses WIIS, quite
insipid.
On Thursday Vast the Leeds Jubilee couch was
overturned at Halifax. Of seven passengers, oue
was killed on the spot, a second ,died in two
hour's after the accident happened, three have
broken bones, and two are much brunet!, exclu-
sive of the coachman, who was not expected to
live. The names Of those who arc dead are—
Joshua Milner and Mr. Sykes, engine-maker, of
Bolton.

Yesterday morning, about four o'clock, 11 fluebroke out in the 'cellar of Mr. Pierce, ppiter,
Chapel-street, Sa!fold, which 'consumed a consi
derable portion of the-bousehold furniture' before
its progress could be arrested. 14r. Pierce was
compelled to leap out of a window of the first
floor, the flames and smoke preventing Iris de-
scent by the stairs. He immediately procured.a
ladder, by which Mrs. P. the childre.n, and a gen--
dermal with his wife who ivere on a visit,.elfect-
ed their escape, with the bed-clothes wrapped
round them, the danger being too great to admit
of their drwising thernselves.--(Manehester Volun-
teer, July 3.) •

LAW INTtLL)GENCE,

COURT OP EXCIIEQUF,P.

Bttt WATTUN LEAVES V.:ls,4tri. ..tt)lll\7 ,q()IiGAN,

This long penditt&auSe came on yesterday for
the decision of the Court. Mr. .Baron WOOD said,
as there was a ditTerence of opinion, it was neces-
sary for him to state his seotimerits, and spoke for
a long time 'in favour of the defendant. Mr. Ba-
ron GRAILY.st took up the argument, anti answered
him, and supported the directions and judgment
of tine 'House of Lards. Mr. Baron THOMPSON
Was The LOUD CHIEF' BARON likewise
supported the jty!Alitent Of the llouso of Lo-. 11-3.
2400/ , gtiestioned by the House of Lords RS
I'olllllllg part uf the mortgage, and also 13901,
re;etted. 528/. odd shillings, which the de-
fetulAnt had applied to his own use, was ordered
to be carri,A to the general necount, reducing
the. mortgage, which was pretended to be 12,000/.
to 7,(i 1/. odd shillinp. • !flu! Deplity Ref-nem-
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brancer was ordered iMtnediatelv to calculate t fie
account (it rents 'and profits -received by defendant
from the estates), and apply them in discharge of
the mortgage, so that the estates-might be•Testor-
ed, which, defendant has been in possession of up-
wards of thirty.years ; a very large balance due to
plaintitf The tom-) Cut CV BARON and Mr. Ba-
,roli GLIA:IIW animadverted' severely on the evi-
dence' of:the defendant, John Morgan, and his
brothers.