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London, England, 1813-03-25 00:00:00

MPtitiAt P tRLiALENT.

HOUSE, 01? .LORDS,
:iII7ZDNESII AY, AtAtton,24:
2rdSELSRA took the oaths and his seat.
illejr "Lordships' judgment, relative. to the
Its Appeal Causes, Wight v: Dickson, and the
1k of Scotland v. Watson; Was postponed till
rid that respecting Craigdaillie
v. Aik-
!Monh!dy.
rALsiNGIIAM presented a Petition fron't
lams t)t certain Parishes in the County
Praying; that the Trade to India and
loe continued as heretofore to the
ralou, which was ordered to lie on the

private anti local Y3ills ‘verc brought up
Qom:lions by Lord F. OSBORNE, Mr.
3')and bthcr Members, and respectively
;t time.
ILE DiTcIiESS OF JiltUislS*lCK.
of Li V ERPOOL shortly addreSsed the
Qnsequence of the death of this Dins-
Ou such an occasion, he felt it
:essary for him to detain their Lord-
than to state that the melancholy
is de,tlt of the Duclhess. of Brunswick,
jR Majesty, having recently taken place;
'hove the House (as was the re4ular. and
eastom of Parliament), to Vote an Ad-
..,-Araloience to his Royal Highness the
to,.terntteent on the occasion, expressive at the
Patti,i,"lrtgret of their Lordships, and their
4111:;',,,t'u1l it) those feelings which must gene-
consequence of any domestic afflic-
kellarpK it) his Majesty's illustrions
yidifb,,,qte.,:ii he felt must he imahimously voted
fortnl,-Irldor Iships. The Noble Earl then moVed
Iligboest the Address of Condolence to Royal
, Prince Regent on the above melar-;
c on ;it accorded 'with the spirit and
Isis Lordship's preliminary observa-
-1-4 "hit; read by the Lord Chancellor,
h voted by the House:
i'(l'.titt of Condolence was ordered to,be
to the Prince Regent by the Lords,
t,
till e staves ; and the House immediately
tomorrow.

.
ItousE op comMONS.
r, WZI3NESDAY, MARCH 24.
', IlktleELLou of the EXCRECLIJER wished to
the Noble Lord opposite (Lord A. An-
f) thc. Would object to postpone his motion re-
rirst Paymaster of Marines.
Li A;.llAstit.TosT d
41 id not object to its being
aim •
al! er a few observations,.postponed
'-it,nn'''('w clh arsday) se'nuight.
the
~'AliNiNo preseoted a • Petition froin
~.,(111ege 018arv. ' • t the Bill now
tiouse,
ocnns, agains
7e(l to lie ma the table. .
A • IiV'T'STON ELECTION.
.....'FIT l' ' 'IN urntlght ll
vileetioil con . -P the Report. Sitting
1". t ' '1
I""'lteet, it declared the
~
to .0 )e (h/ elected, but stated I en-
.t.be treit%ier frivolous nor vexati"soor the
the
,!•a aura,tiet
.1(-)11 t° that Petitioa. It 'further stated,
been
of years Memb2rs bad
3 flif.'"lglk all agreement between the re();
lio th
ticoitoil
"° and Georgee Henry Duke ni.
I'ln of the Constitution, and con"
e order of .the Hoose. The Honour-
'lnher theta moved, " in ttie Contatittee :should beThat the evidence
-laid before the

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4' 011TLEY 41111 Mr. SWAN CApreS.e,, '''tA 14VOlirIAble. to.'the proclut.tion of the
~ owl,on the piestion being put, the mo-
carried:
CTUF: W.V.CI-IEQUER 81LL5,1311.1..
414ANcItt.Lor, of the Exotteo.tiewbrottght
,Xchtftter Bilis Bill for raising
• .',''utn.. 5 000,0001.
by ti,ltehee' ;Act. Bills for the spy-
fit ,
q't year 1813. 'rile ills
.were severally
'tra and ordered to he read a second time
,
. .
~: e'uiada Runi.ll,ill, the Newfoundland Corn
'Uhl the 11/..tail Coach 'Guard Bill, went through
146, thy Reports of which were ordered to
ii"etl t '
. --..0 !in orro w .
~, Sum Nett moved for leaVe to bring in a
,''ll4l.4o4utices of the Peace at the Quarter
ar,,t,o 'employ, County Rates in- the Erce-
400tus for the Preservation of the County

•
411.)DY seconded the motion, anti after
tf;lttis from Mir. Ewsos, which Avere re-
),,Y• Hr. IC. SuNutaitit, leave was given to
tilt! Bill.
Second reading of the Trish Schools Bill
iii}one)(l to Monday the 29th instant.
gtlaill Hospital Bill went through a
lee, the report of ivhich Wits received, and
9rdered, to be engrossed and read a third
'7ow.

op THE DUCTIESS 'OF BRUN:MK:K. 4 .
11.P.Ittt atm NVits SUIT -the flouse would
were, .occasions .Nyhen• their customary.
'lglu. to be disPensed•with ; they would feel
ally occasion like that whicli lie was ahotit
under their notice, not only. would they
les wi . • in nut adhering to those Parliamentary.
tti ' l'eh nsuall d q r i ied the precedence et
4;t oils, 1,.._, . yt e Ili 1
hiy, ~,,,oiteit, it was desirable that. they should give
t, y"1 174,
ni
~n, the death of any .niernbet.• of -the
trkt.tailt ?Ili took -plaee, it was a calamity
_most
I,tlV•ar "' the House and the country. 'When,
t•qp ,:ii,: !,1y In:Audi
,of that illustrious
.Family,
.. Ilaq .., mud aud beneficent sway; this coun7
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A . tito
~,1 . it.c its pie,:ent . ita,.., f., t (lei '''lY ; when an nt- of dill family paid
111 th 4 '.'l. nitur • Y`) - •
nit Pe()ni e! ,it heeatue the Representatives
.. r, t) lii(illy to ritipt'o'icii the foot of the
tirti wltii ti • . '
It kef! lvir condolence. . Without pressing
e,II, 1,4 4) tLieLlii the propriety .of taking. such a
11,e ail A ,lirl`tlil3ol au occasion,. he should
Li
witirttlis ' '
vii IN tht , . of . cy:ictolence to leis Itoyal
, eit-.., 1 tweeleek. His Lordship then
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_pm. !n.t.ed to his Royal T.Ttgh
tiitt%, ,t ,:. !,t.,),,, }I i•.,. .
.1 t:,,s,sini„ till.. ir dip conce.ri! .11,t.1.i1e
it, tt it„,7ollfiwiet, 7 '_;:, 1.....M,5us amed f.tthectie-,41).41 1,1,u
44`;Zt ~,,,,:i.itto,,ii
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~C011.101t.! With hl3 Ito;alllighne.
11141ft:0,U °er -,,:!Kto, and to agsuf•C him thai. that
44tv,1141tiii art
w.l''lmlt• with the iri,iA affectionate nnd
wllliy...ittevet affected the hapinats6

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. ,
Sir 17'. Tivrmiri did not rite to PPPine the
tiOli or the NOble Lord ; titit reeling at he did,
that the, event to Which it referred was one that
more ,deeply affected her Royal- Highness 'die
Princes of Wai,e than any either Meniber of the
Royal Parnily, he thOnght an Address of Con-
doierfee Wight also to be vdted tct tier Royal High-
neLoss;
rd CAMEREAG:I•I said; there bad, never been
an instance of the House Carrying its; c6ndolOce
but to the Throne, and he Wiis sure the HOlionrable
Baronet would feel, that it might le.id the House
into considerable embarrasSmenti- if the practice
of voting addresses of private condolonee were
ever introduced.

"Mr. WHITBREAD understood the Noble Lord to
say, that there was no instance cif the Queen :or
the Royal Consort buying been so addressed on
such an occasion. If this statement ..-ere correct,
it Would not be proper, on the contrary it would
be improper to vote the Address of the I-Jon. Bart.
but if the Queen or the Royal Consort, had in
any instance been Waited on with an address of
condolence on the &nth of a member of the Royitl
Family, be thought it was their duty now to carry
such an address to the Princess of Wales. He was
sure the Noble Lord would not.take it ill of him if
he culled for the authority of the Chair on this
subject.

Lord CASTLE RE kGIT waS not aware that such an
address had ever been voted to the Queen, but if
it could be proved that such a proceeding had
taken place, he was ?still by no means prepared to
admit that the situation of the wife of the Prince
Regent was the same as that of the •Queen.
The SPEAKER gave no opinion on the po!nt in
questicm. The motion was carried.
PETITION or SIR JOHN AND LADY DOUGLAS.

On the Motion of ML. COCHRANE Jonrzsroxr.,
the Petition of Sir John and Lady Douglas was
read ; and
Mr. COCHRANE JOHNSTONE then said, in rising
to call the attention of the House to the Petition
which had just been read, he would, as he labour-
ed under severe indisposition, be as brief as pos-
sible. He believed---he was persuaded that the
House would agree with him, that the petition of
Sir John and Lady Douglas Was nothing, more
than an impudent attempt to give a colouring of
truth in the eyes of the nation to the fithehoOds
they had sworn. The petition, howeyer, was be-
foie them ; hitt. in justice to her Royal Highness
the Princess of Wiles, he thought that it ought
not to be entered on their journals without giving
it some mark of their, reprobation. Some might
think it was wholly unworthy of their notice, and
that by nsoticing it they would give it a degree of
importance which otherwise would not be attach-
ed to it. He thought differently, as he felt they
oughtnot to confine their view of it-to the case
as it stood at present. [Here the Hon. Member
was for some time unable to proceed front indis-
position ; he, however, expressed himself anxi
ous not to postpone the motion, and wished to be
allowed to read a paper which he produced, and
Which proved, too be a written speech.] Proceed-
ing to read the:paper, he repeated his reason for
thinking the petition ought. not to he passed over
without notice ; and contended, that if it were
so passed over, this circumstance might hereafter
be taken as presumptive evidence, that it was not
thought wholly unworthy of credit, and thus
something of a colour of truth might be given to
the calumnies which had been circulated against
her Royal Highness the Princess, of Wales. He
therefore wished some mark of reprobation-to be
put .upon it, to guard 'against such an ,eifect.--,
The petition appeared to him to originate in a
'wish to iiersevere• in the twist' detestable false-
hoClds:. f, •

Mr. llosE spoke to order. He ivas sorry the
lion Gentleman was so much indisposed, but -lie
conceived that ill health. was no plea for reading
the paper •he had produced. 'appeared to him,
that as nutoh exertion was required to read that
paper as to speak, and it was contrary to the forms
of the House to admit of such a'praoticeas thus
reading a paper, Member might Offer the senti-
ments of soothe' as his own.

Mr. TlEatin4 said, this form had been dis-
pensed with on former occasions ; lta one instance
lie recollected permission to read his own speech,
or to let another read it for him.
Tilt,. SPEAKER admitted the forms of the House.
He had to reproackhimself for not having inter-.
(erect before. •He had forborne to do so on ac-
count of the indisposition of the libn. Member.;
it _was a rule that no Member should addreis the
House but upon hislegg.' In 'some cases of in-
disposition, however, Members had' been indulged
with permission to speak ,sitting;
. Mr, WHITRFIEAD recollected a case (that of Sir
John Cok Hippisley) which was still stronger.
Lie was so ill that he could not attend the House,
and on one occasion another Member thought
down the speech which he had intended to make;
read it to the House, and afterwards took kpart
in the debate.

Mr. Rosa said, all he contended for was, that
if the Hon. Gentleman was able to read it, he was
able to speak it.
[Here a pause of sonic length ensued. The
Hon. 'Alember (lir. C. Johnstone) was loudly
culled on to- read by many Members, which was
opposed by cries of " No" froth others. The call
for him to read predorniaated.]
%Mr. C. JOHNSTONE then went on, to say, that
the petition appeared to him to have only originat-
ed in a wish to persevere in the detestable ca-
lumnies which they had before promulgated,
This conduct was part of a settled deliberate plan
for hatching false charges tigainst her Royal. High-
ness. He had been in hopes that the proceedings
on this-subject might have terminated with the
motion which he had brought forward some
weeks ago. No man was more sofry than him-
self that it was still necessary to agitate the sub-
ject, and he would not have returned to it but
for the audacious attempt of tile Petitioners
to impose on the country. He concluded by
moving :

"'that the Petition of Sir John Douglas anti Charlotte his
wife, hid on the table of, the flouse on the 16th of March, is
rt4iirded as an audseions effort to give in the eyo; of the pub-
lic a colour of truth to t lialsehoini%,btlore Ku-oril to by them,
in primeenting their infamous design's aFainst tlio tie ur:uia
life of her. 111>yal lligness the Princess-of Wales."
seconded Sir F. Buttrarr ue motion.

ftßnneTip rose. hut.coolit tift tu• heard for

question," which burst. from all parts of the House.
He opposed the motion. He conld not consent
ic;;:;tich au bpiniOu On the eVidence of the Peti-
iddhers, or: Which they Might still 'mire to act as
jtitlges; against such ii Resolution he 'would raise
his voice, t9-td though he might stand alone,- take
the sense Of the House on the subject.
Mr. WF:IT.BiIr.AD contended, that no regular
grounds hid been 1.441 for the motion; which de-
blared that Sir John I)onglas had-attenipted to set
up, in th,e ::eyes of the pnblic,- that evidence as
gonft, which bad been proved to be file; They
had not that evidence before them, and theretoie,
ivhateier his sentiments were on the Subject„ and
the More he reflected on it, the more he waS
tisked, that their evidence was false from begin-
to end, find a part of A mast wicked andatro-
cious ittcnipt tin the honour ind life of the Win.:
cess of Wales ; still, as they had tint the 'nen-
Meats before them, on which such a resolution
should be founded; he would concur with the
motion. He thought it would be better that
the House should resolve not to take it into con"
sideration at all ; and that the 'previous question
should be moved to get rid of the subject, or the
order of the day passedou to; or any other mode
adopted, which would enable them theta in quit
the subject without giving an opinion it ; If how-
ever, he must say aye Or no to the question, his
vote would be no, for the reasons he had already
stated.

The• SOLIC:TOR-GENERAL said, if the last
speaker but one had been interrupted • by the im-
patience of the House for the question, it. was not
because they were so favdurable to the motion, or
that he (Mh. Herbert) was likely to stand alone
against the proposition before the House. He
was, sure that if it was not unanimously negatived,
it would only have the voice of the Honourable
Gentle Man who brought it forward, and of the '
Honourable Baronet who had reluctantly seeianded
it, in its support. He had but one Sentence to
oifer on the subject, and that was this—he hoped no
previous question would be put upon this most un-
fair, and if• it could possibly pass, most disgrace-
ful proposition, hitt that it would , met by a di-
rect negative. The motion was 'of a nature
subversive of all justice and the House of
Commons, if it could entertain such a proposi-
tion, instead Of tt• blessing would be a curse to
the country.
Sir F. BOaDETT wished to point out the awk-
ward predicament in which the House was placed.
They were obliged to let the petition lie on their
table. The petitioners asked' to re-swear the evi,
deuce which -they formerly gave. He had no
doubt they knew it was impossible for the House
to grant the prayer of the petition : and they were
thus brought, by a sort of trick, to let it lie on
their table. ais opinion was, that all petitions
ought to be received, or he would have opposed
this petition in the first instance. In justice to the
motion before the House, he must say, that, what-
ever techinal objections tnight be raised against it,
every man must subscribe to the.treth of the pro-
position which it 'embodied.
Mr: TIERNEY wished to say nothing at all on
the subject. It was proposed, that they should
declare thepetition to be " an audacious attempt
to give as colour of truth to falsehood." This he.
~could not tics; and if he were to give a negative
to the motion, it would be to say, it was notso.—
(No, from the 111iuiateiial, Lieneh.)--:Theta he did
not know what was • meant by a negative. He
wished the order of the day to be moved to get rid
of it, without giving an Opinion on the sub-
ject. Where could be the harm of doing this ?: If
it could be said, that voting in the negative on it '
was not asserting that the petition was not what
it was described to lo* in the motion, he had lost
kil,itlea of the meaning of the -words " aye" and
"nO."

The SCILICITOR-GitNIMAL denied, that to nega-
tive this motion was to hegative the character of
the petition given in:the motion, If he had moved
an amendment, Which went to give it another cha-
tacter. then the objection of the Right Honour-
able Uentlernan would have been ,well-tounded,
as in that case he would have called on the, Right
Honourable Gentleman to give the Petition a. CIA-.
raCter. lf aperson askeehim to say black Was
white, and he said he
_would not say so, he did
not, acting thus, give an opinion on the subject.—..-
Called upon to say this PctitioW was scandalous,
refusing to say sO,. was not to assert that it was
meritorious.

Mr, TIERNEY maintained that by negativing the
motion, it might hereafter appear to the historian,
that as it way proposed to pronounce the Petition
to he " ap audacious attempt to give the colouring
of truth to falsehood," and us the motion was ne-
gatived, that the House of Commons decided it Iva?
not an audacious attempt to give truth the colour-
ing of falsehood.
_ _

'Mr. BAnnAm desired to know what was the use
of the previous question, if they were not to avail
themselves of it to get rid of a motion like the
proeut 3 He wished the Learned Gentleman
could be allowed to shew to what ca.se the pre-
vious question was applicable, if ft was not appli-
cable to this.
The SDLICITOR-GENERAL did not wish to cri-
ticise the various modes of getting rid of a Mo-
tion. It was sufficient for him to perceive that
there was a strong feeling in the House in favour
of one particular course on the present occa-
sion, to induce him in this instance to give
way• He hail- therefore to state that he bad no
objection to move, " that this House do now ad-
journ:"

• ' 'lns proposition appeared to meet with general
approbation, and the motion for an actiourn rent
•- , r ,
Vas n m
umeatety put nod carrot.

KEMBLE eras to conclude his fripgement on
Saturday litst ai
.ndinbitrgh, in the diameter of
King Igor, lutt, he bus been o attractive, that it
'was likely lte would be tempted to perform a few
nights more,
The great battle between Molineux and Carter
will take place in 'Oxfortkhire, on Friday st.ott--
nignt., the 2d April. .It,ltas excited equal interes,t
in the, sporting world to ,that betwixt Cribb and
the Black.

No4liatupton. Asf-,4es, 'Thomas Evans was
convicted of a fntrglari.in the house of- R. Dent.,
It appeared • that the wretch after having robbed
the house, violated the peyson of tilt 'wife of the
said It_ Dent_ fm:Avli4,ll. nire.ritt w n

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