The Sun.
London, England, 1814-07-02 00:00:00

THE DUKE OF WELLINGTON.

At about a quarter before five o'clock, the
Speaker being dressed in his official robes, and
the House being crowded with Members, some
of them in naval apd military uniforms, and a
great number in the Court dresses in which they
had attended the Speaker to Carlton-house.
Lord CASTLEREAGH rose to state, that in con-
consequence of the intimation of the House 2 his
Grace the Duke of 'Wellington was in attend-
ance.—(Hear, bear, hear !)-
The SPEAREIt—" Is-it the pleasure of the House
that his Grace be-called in i"—A loud and uni-
versal " Aye !"
The huzzas in the lobby announced his Grace's
approach. On his entrance, dressed..in his Field-
Marshal's uniform, profusely decorated with
litary Orders, and bowing repeatedly and respgct-
fully to the House, all the Members, uncovered,
rose, and enthusiastically cheered him.
The SPEAKER —" My Lord, the House has or-
dered a chair to be placed for you to repose on."
The Duke seated himself in the chair, which
was placed a few feet within the Bar, and put his
hat on. The Members of the House then seat-
ing themselves, his Grace instantly rose, took off
his hat, and addressed the Speaker to the follow-
ing effect :
" sra,—l was anxious to be permitted to attend this Ho-
nourable House, in order to return thanks in person for the
honour it has conferred upon me, in deputing a Committee
to congratulate me on my return to -my native country ;
(Bear, hear.9—and that; after the House had, amidst my
exertions, animated mei)), their applause on every occasion,
which .appeared to deserve their approLation, the House, at
the recommendation of his Royal Highness the Prince Re-
gent,
has filled up the measure of its kindness, by bestowing
on me the noblest gift that any subject can receive.(Re-
iterated am happy to take this opportunity of ex-
pressing my admiration of the great efforts made- by this
House apd by the Country, at a•mcment of unexampled dif-
ficulty, in order to support the extensive scale of, opera-
tions by which the late arduous contest was brought to
so fortunate a terminatien.—(Loaci Cries-of Hear, hear 1-7
The wise policy of Parliamlnt, the unbending firmness of
the people, and the determined spirit of the Government, gave
vigour and effect to the flier ations„which were necessary to
be adopted and, encouraged by the confidence reposed in
toe, by this Ilouse, by the special favour of the Prince Re-
gent, and by the zeal, ability, and perseverance of my gallant
frien:lsi the General Officers of the Army, as well as by the
bravery of the subordinate Officers, and the discipline and
intrepidity of the Troops, I have been enabled to carry on the i

operations of a protracted warfare, in such a inainaar as to
receive tho3ot tuzlrks of approbation from the House, for which
j now have to thank inn.--(Loud a.pplau • is, how-

ever, impossible for me to express my thanks is language at

all adequate to sny feelings; I can, therefore, only nsBare the

Nome, that I shall always be ttady to serve Lis ilNeAy, And
support the interests of the Country in any way in which wy
abilities may be deemed useful ; and that; in whatever sitie,-
tion I may be' placed, I shall ever feel must anxious to merit
and to receive the approbation of this Dignified Assembly."
Loud and long continued cheers followed this
Speech, at the conclusion of which the SPEAKER
rose, took off his hat, and addressed the Duke of
WELLINGTON aS folloWS

" 111 v Loan,—Since last I had the honour of addressing
you from this place, a series of eventful :venrs have elaped;
but none without some mark and note of your rising glory.

"Tile military triumphs whieh your valour has nehiesed
upon the llanlis of the Douro, and the Tagus, of the Ebro,
and the Garonne; have called for the spontaneous shouts of
admiring Nati;;Ws. Those triumphs it is needless an this day

to recount. Their names hare been written by your con-
quering sword in the annali of Europe, and we shall'hand
them down with exultation to our children's childre-a:

" It is not, h:twever, the grandeur of military success
which has alone fixed our admiration, or commanded our ap-

plauses; it has been that generous and lofty spirit which in-
spired your troops with unbounded -confidence, and taught
them to know that the day of battle was always a day of vic-
tory; that moral courage and enduring fortitude, which in.
perilous times when gloom an,d doubt had beset ordinary
minds, stood neveitheless unshaken ; and that ascendency of
character, which uniting the energies of jealous and rival na-
tions, enabled you to wield at will the fate and fortunes of
mighty Empires.

" For the repeated thanks and grants bestowed upon yon
by this House, in gratitude for your many and eminent ser-
vices, you have thought fit this day to offer us your acknow-
ledgments; but this nation well knows 'that it is still largely
your debtor. It owes to yon the proud satisfaction, that
amidst the constellation of Illustrious Warric,rs who have re-
cently visited our count' y, we could Present to them a leader
of our own, to Whom all, by common accimnation, conceded
the pre•eminente ; and when the will of Heaven, and the
common destinies of our nature shall have swept away the
present generation, ymsu• will have left your great name an
iinperishable monument,. exciting others to like deeds of
glory, and serving at once to adorn, defend, and perpetuate
the existence of this country amongst the ruling nations of
the earth. •

" It now remains only that we congratulate your Grace
upon the high and important mission on which you are about.
to proceed, and we doubt not, that the same splendid talents,
so conspicuous in war, will maintain with equal authority;
firmness, and temper, our national honour and interests in

peace."
During the Speaker's Address, the cheers were
load and frequent ; and at the close of it there
was a general and long-continued cry of Bear,
hear, hear
The Duke of Wellington then took his leave,
bowing repeatedly as be retired, and all the Mem-
bers, as at his entrance, uncovered, rose, and
warmly cheered hint.
Lord CAsTL,TEAGII.—" Sir, in commemoration of so proud
and so grateful a day—a day on which we have had the hap-
piness to witness within these walls the presence of a Hero,
never excelled at any period of the world, in the service of
this or of any other country—in commemoration of the elo-
quent manner in whiCh that Hen) was addressed from the
Chair, on an occasion which must ever be dear to English-
men, and which will ever shed lustre on the annals of this
House, I move, Sir, That your Address to Field Marshal lais
Grace the Duke of iVellington, be printed.—{Hear, hear,
hear .9
The SPEAKER put the question, that the Ad?.
dress of the Duke of Wellington, and his own
Answer thereto, be entered on the Journals,
which was unanimously agreed to.
Thus ended the most dignified, and. at the same
time the most affecting-prOceeding that we ever
witnessed in Parliament.
c AP.RE.

Mr. BE NET, tniverting to the Petition which
he had yesterday presented from
,111-is. M. A.
Clarke, stated, that since she had preferred that
Petition she had been removed into one of the
State apartments ; reserving so himself, there-
fore, the right of taking nit the subject at a fu-
ture period, if he should think proper, and more
particularly that part of it which related to the
unjust and highly criminal practice of taking mo-
ney for allowing a prisoner to reside out of the
prison, within the rules, he should decline pro-
ceeding any further in the business at the present
moment.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, he was--sure it
would he highly gratifying to the House to know,
that some time ago the Vetitioner having stated
her complaint to the Noble Lord who presided
over that Court, in the prison of which she was
confined, that Noble Lord had deputed a most
hOnourable person, Mr. Law, to inquire into the
truth of her allegations. The Lady had fancied
(it seemed) that as a matter of right she was en-
titled to what were called the State apartments:,
She was, however, convinced of her error, and told
that the moment the best apartments fell, she
should have her choice of them ; but that the
Marshal of the prison had not the power to dis-
possess any body for her accomrsodation.
Mr. W. FITZiiEttALD moved the second readint of the
Irish Peace Bill.
Sir F. FLOOD complained of the unfairness of represent-
ing Ireland as being, in general, in an unsettled state, when,
in fact, many parts of it were as tranquil as Eogland......The
Bill Was read a second time and ordered to he committed on
Monday next..
Mr. W. WYNNE moved far an Account of the Expence in-
cured in Improving his Majesty's Woods audsForests up to the
sth December, 1814.
The Irish Glass Bill was read a third time and passed.
The Irish Drawback Bill Went through a Connnifee.
—Report ordered to be received on Tuesday next.
The Scotch Linen Lill scent through a Committee.—Report
ordered to be received on Monday next.
IRISH BUDGET.
The House having resolved itself into a Com-
mittee of Ways and Means,
Mr. V. FITZGERALD said, he- rose pursuant to
the notice which he bad given, to call the atten-
tion of the Committee to the consideration of the
state of the Finances of Ireland. On the only pre-
ceding occargion when he had the honour of bring-
ing this subject forward, he had felt strongly the
embarrassments and difficulties which attended
the task he had to perform. These difficulties
and embarrassments were now so far from being
diminished, that they were rather aggravated, by
the amount of the burthens which it was now his
duty to propose. It was painful to him to be un-
der the necessity in the present year, -the coin-
niencing year of peace, to be compelled, to ha-

pose fresh takes Upon the ptoilie of irelaml, at
time.when ParLainent had been enabled to re-
lieve • Great Bsitain from similar burtheiss. 11
the difficulty which he had to encounter was, fit
one point of view, increased by the nature of the
systein which had been adopted with regard to
the Finances of Ireland, and by her not being
called upon to hear various taxes which were
im-
posed upon Great Britain, on the other band,.
a certain degree of benefit was derived from that
remission of burtnens which she would otherwise
have been called upon to bear, because she was
by that exemption enabled to support those midi-
titmal burthens which iCnow became necessary to
impose. Having made those preliminary observa-
tions, he should now proceed to state to the
Committee the amount of the Supply, and of the
Ways and Means by which he meant to meet it.
The first article was the deficiency of contribution
of 181:3, amounting to 4,466,4711. The next was
the estimated quota of Ireland for this year,
amounting to 8,782,689/. The interest of the pre-
Sent debt, with the Sinking Fund, was 5,546,2991.
making altogether a total of 18,795,4551. He
would next submit to the Committee the state
of the 'Consolidated Fund. The ballance in
the 'Treasury on the' sth January, 1814; was
1,383,7581. and there was remaining a ballance
of the Loan of last year, made- in this Country,
2,953,1471. making together 4,336,9051. from,
which, deducting the arrears of the principal of
outstanding Treasury
.tßills and Lottery Prizes,
28,4801. and of Inland Navigation 69,5961. mak-
ing together 98,0761., there would remain, as the
surplus of the Consolidated Fuird, 4,238,8291.—
The total of the Supply the Committee would re-
collect he hail stated was 18,79.5,455 i. Irish cur-
rency, and he
,s..ould now state the Ways and
Means by'whiCh he proposed to cover this Supply.
The surplus of the Consolidated Fund he had stat-
ed as amounting to 4,238,8291. The Revenue he
estimated 5,350,0001, The Profit on Lotteries
he took at 120,000/. The balance due for Sea-
men's Wages adyauced 71,000/. The portion be-
lunging to Ireland upon the sale of Naval Stoics
being 2-17ths of 576,351/. was 73,4561. The
Loan made in 'lreland was for three millions, and
that made in England 51 millions or, in Irish 'cur-
rency, 5,958,3331. making the total of the Ways
and Means, to cover tiff e Supply 18,811,618/. Time
charge upon the Loan made in-Ireland, and he was
happy to say that there never was a Loan made,
under any circumstances, upon ", terms 'more fa-
vourable to the Country, was 5/. Isls, 9d. per cent.
amounting to 167,6251. and the charge upon the
Loan contracted in England, which was at time
rate of St. 18s. 91d. pei cent. was 353,900!. mak-
ing together 521,525/. which was to be provided
for. Before he proceeded to enumerate the Du-
ties and Taxes- which he meant to submit to the
Committee, to cover that sum, 'he felt himself
authorized to state the view under which he
should propose his Resolutions to the House.—
The Committee were aware, that by the Act of
'Union, a power was given to the United Podia-
meat to review the provisions cf that. Act, as far
as they related to the state of die Finances of the
two countries, and to .make such arrangements re-
specting the debt of-both, as might, under all the
circumstances, be deemed. advisable. Without
going into all that extent of observation, which
the consideration of that subject would necessarily
lead him, he might be permitted to state, that it
was one of the tu-mosi importance, and to
.repeat
what lie had said upon a former occasion, that it
was one which could not be effected till Parlia-
ment could be enabled to take a general and coin-
prehensive, view of the Finances- of both Comm-
tries. He had expressed his hopes, on a former
occasion, that the next time he opened to the
House the state' of die Finances of Ireland, he
should have to call the attention of Parliament to
this most important subject, and he bad the satis-
faction of knowing, that what he bad then said
had met with the approbation of those public
men who bad turned their attention to this sub-
ject ; but the Committee must be aware, that this
was a subject of so much importance, and cm-'
bracing so many considerations;. that it could
not be taken up with too much delibera-
tion: Whatever' anxiety he might have felt
to bring this subject forward, yet he.was pre-
vented by one cause, which weighed Much with
his mind, and which he had no doubt would have
great weight with the House. He did not think
it would have been right to have called the' at.
tention of Parliament to this subject during the
absence of his Noble Friend, (Lord-Castlereagh)
who was employed upon a greakpublic Service,
and which he had executed in ti manner so ho-
nourable to himself and so glorious for time Coun-
try. He did not, he said, think it right to take
up so important a measure in time absence of his
Noble Friend, who was the Minister for Ireland
at the time the great measure of the Union was
brought forward and completed; and he was happy
to say, that no great inconvenience would result
from the delay. With this view of the subject, be
had felt it to be his duty to take care that the Reso-
lutions which he had now to propose, should he of
a nature to lead to, and prepare the way for future
consolidation of the Finances of the two Coun-
tries. It would be necessary, before such an ar-
rangement of the Finances of the twotouotries as
'that which he had alluded to could 'be proposed
and effected, that Ireland should have made all
tK, exertions in the way of Finance that was in ,
her power, and that site 1
e should have been brought
into a state of taxation upon those articles which
might be deemed luxuries, corresponding, as near
as the situation of the two Countries would ad-
mit, with' that of Great Britain. Therefore,
though some objections might be made to the de-
tail of the Resolutions which lie should have the
honour of bring forward, yet lie felt satisfied
that, upon consideration, the principle upon
which those Resolutions were founded would
counterbalance any objection that might be
urged against them ; time first reduction he
should have to propose would be for au
equalization of the, Custom Duties of Ireland
.to those of England. The supply of last year
had, to a certain extent, been provided for by an
increase of the Duties of Customs, for he had felt
it to be his duty, when his Right,Hon. Friend pro-
posed to augment the Custom Duties in England,
to make a similar proposition with regard to Ire-
land ; and accordingly the Dnties had been hs-
creasedrin some instances, 25 per cent. Although

, aid
lie had licit bad the shoat fortnni in aa
'1"-05
Lions which he had brought forward last yeat-ie
meet with the :concurrence of some of the Ciono
anen on the other side of the HOase, yet he %i
sure that that they %.viluld he glad to learn that
duties
predictims respecting the produce 'of these (I°o,o
had not been accomplished: Ile was 'i.tre tha.ool,
would be more pleased to km-) that be' sll
be right iii his Estimates rather than thAt
ttlien
should. There was not one of the Du t jesd es;
proposed which -bad not answered he and
pectation. Ile thought, therefore, that the
‘vhichbe had stated would dispose the Coal" 1);
to concur in the Resolutions he should u"'_iv
ter
poe; for, though he
.was quite convinceut oupl
there were strong reasons why irefaud
be exempted from sonic sources of
to which :Great Britain was liable ; Yet jar'
respect to the duties of Customs, he saw "4.'01
son why any difference should subsist, erc" 11
arrangement was ultimately to take idtiee•oti
would be, he felt, hut candid in him t() 1,0
that he meant now to bring tinder ,the yucltt‘i
Daties many articles which were Clot 511111eiolcl
them before, and articles, too, wkich were ac'
in the Manufactures of Ireland ; but he silt't'h Mich
company his proposition with regulatblas;
he trusted would remove the tears .Of at
yvtio were the
.most anxious about the st'ricieg
those Manufactures: - There were several
now exempted from duties, such as ashes'
dye-stuffs, &c.; now every Gentleman adl,l:'.oler'e
with Ireland, knew that great quantitiescie Or;
articles were imported, not for the use o'l 1,00'6
nufactures, and consequently the Revetta's:aeci,
in proportion. He should, therefore, 13-o%o'
that the ditties should he the same as " I`9
Britain, but with a full drawback uports-It,irel
should be employed in , the linen mandf"ctioel
and he shouted
-be happy to receive. any saggi
that would enable him to make the dravi'''
the manufactureg as complete as pos0)1.4'0'00.11'
estimated the increase of Customs at 2—aitorl
The next head of provision to which be 10;
call the attention of the Committee, wa3
the Distilleries. After the long and alaius'
t"aje
discussions which had taken place on the 51:09
of Irish Spirits in the. last and precedidg lit`4 06
perhaps the Hon. Chairman. would recode sift
mention of this article. But he looked Wit', ttg
principal source of Supply, and he fait t''l3,tlie
could do so, not only without trenching, oPQ
interests of the Irish Mannfacturers, l'eao
happy to say, that he proposed the increase_ ',or
he was about to offer, with their entire °l,lOO
rence. It was satisfactory to feel that,
effectual or not for that object, they, in ei'",kl ci!
la'colt
in it, and' he , in recommending it to l'arbi
were mutually facilitating that intercnrse
'
Spirit Trade which, upon every ground of irSolleci
policy, upon every argument of imperial. aadicaliOr
dye interest, on esa;ay principle of pledged,,:r; WI;
andptiblic faith could not he permanently of
ed. it would he a strong recommendati°ll,biti''l
measure, which had already been sanciiode" ido;
Hofpse ; that,while contributing to our reve'cool'.l
would prevent, as he sanguinely hoped,iti,lo !;111'1
that system of smuggling which it had DI- ft.;‘4;
had prevailed so universally, and which be
had prevailed, though not. to the degecece'ill',/,„
had been stated. The• Bill.-which had l''5";11 nt
House of Commons bad ithposed
stills in Ireland an increase of 25 per .ccot;-:00 g';„
-present-charge,-making the charge in a "IvanOta;
lon still atimmit to 90 doubling-s. within tl'et in
Instead of ..k.was right.to state, ti"1.00'.',',.14
Bill, which had passed there was an otdisl-
reSpect• to one class of the suuialler StinSY.s Bare
had proceeded on a wrong calculation; , 'Sse:,e
ever, he should propose to rectify in thecalr'i
Regulation Act - now before the 11°":011';;
Right honourable Gentleman,. here 6t4`,(a•asi. [,O
though under the name of Regulatio:ti
fact, a new' duty. wts a duty `v'olat
tradetaus well able to bear, and he di",.a. j,I,K
tate to state that would be pa„auco:f
estimate made in the former amouat of
would yield, on this increase a'je escit,„,!•
hundred and sixty-nine thousand
sive of the increase on small Stills, 11;00/.10
disposed to take it more safely at 3d 'tans gi.„‘hr
annum, and that we can now impose. ot
increase of duty, for such in fact it iy t,restets:
with the concurrence of those most 'llatich
but with the confession and' evidence ed tl'e
have before us 'produced •by that 00;i5:
sure to which so much allusion has
,"e 'l,e
by whiCh only half duty was cbargc" , ht
tiller for the.excess produced, and 11,„acitYact
had a direct interest to declare his 0c6.'000/..
he
work. Be estimated the charge at 3v .c 5
annain. Another head of provi.iein tae,
on certain new Stam abe
p Duties. ,ct or,
the
which he should
.propose. with resrlr-don of
Stamps were two-fold, namely, reg.lll'" botP flfe
present duties and a new duty,
source of aid to the finances , a 0,35,0.1,
as well 115 ITO
of good polic).7, he should ventare..r:cb:ahcli
mend. -With respect to the first, a
hail had the honour of introducing' tia., 1011:;,0
had already received the sanction °pc Collect:3ot
waS intended to insure the be It it was
of the duty on legacies ill lrelaucla.ten
unknown to those who - had sat.,
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Committees to xvhom the cousicle;_it the
Irish Finances had been referred, Cato udlaea
in this respect had been hitherto. c.:, (be det`il
ductive. would not impute this 'that nano' `ape
of. the former law alone, aithoila;. both. hY
most imperfect ; but be hoped tlraioosa hats
regulations of that Bill which the
sotto joie
curved in, and by that departmenti
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serviogl,li
ce.rtainly, while he had-the 1 101101.1
„(I,st
Crown, he should deem it his (1110' :Isiaaaable:;`ie
to enforce, there will be a very e° 13ilo'
mentation of the Stamp iteveo,":ol.oc httlelfri
question bad been the c°l3i,iell
riations„ Avhich the circumstances of
of that. sv 1;
on the slouchtic! aliich,
had made necessary,
had been passed in Erighind ; at
itoa
carried iuto execution by that /laced, lute
)I,li wa- gece'
head of which Mr., Caw! - .00 of a ,
been so effective in the coilect_la those at
beyond even the calculation
to.:s
.0,000,10,:yt
prepared svitu
of
originated it ; he should take.
indebted to. .iits
saying that he had been great,l,Ya 'r(ect-i-'ll v
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Officer for-the assistance 6eil .tic pct
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,linguislied the Irish Act, but- that the eat
eolatinn
eon them had been made at 6 per cent.
'eeckunt•of the di4"erence of the legal interest
11'neY Irelaml and Great BritailL To his
,4•Le,x,.t Proposition be did not anticipate much re-
-`dr'ee, the principle of it not a new one,
01,'"';ii the applieation of it •It.was
w might be 'recommended on gOod-, and
vv,^s-about to say, on patriotic ground:. He
4°"14 hnrnbly sug:gest that. a stamp dirty
.should
ee, hoposed upon all letters of attorney; emPow-
clr
Piersons on the part of the holders of landed
fi;sfunproomity, to receive the rents and :n•o-
-ofst same ; with respect to the proprietors
nded estates to those who enjoyed great pos-
th essio '
-, the trnpoq would not be onerous, pet.-
it could be hardly felt ; with regard to the
1:3-". Proportions, if. the result (and he did
e• ant
icipate that it could be in any degree ex-
respect to dim--class) were to do away
eijhorde
n of Rent Proctors which existed in his
I°trY, if he might be ajw oed the expression of
theetitillioctors, one well understood by some who
Aa, 'ward him; if, instead of dr- intervention of
th; Petty agent, who was employed in Ireland
universally, he might say even by the re-
i,topnttll4ndlord, if swill were the result of his
rttet•" 'ltt,ton, as applicable to them,- he would not
I
bya-e'at so far his plan would be unproductive.
th
e'
e regulation he could approximate
great ","1- to the soil, if even, by motives of no
seldri,`"gliity or character, but which yet.were
itiiodt without their influence on the Truman
'Lold% e"ntributed to an end so desirable, he
svo,li:!' "ot consider this plan as inoperative ; nor
Irt•r,ll- Padiument regret to find, that when they
professedly with other views,
raie., the great cot
• )siderations of• publiclp
anti public peace were not too intimate-
tote,f"ected, and too interwoven, to be sepa-
. (lit,' even ;'roin those which they were to
iftss this day, Parliament would not regret
Proilllqd that it had been, at the. same time,.
'1)1.41. t)tulg those -great objects of internal Ito-
ti•l, Neat and satisfaction, which the pecnita-.,
,\1'4,,()1 the Stale of Ireland called for, while they
40; at the same time aiding that supply which
V4di.„ll was bound to raise, not only without in-
the saurus of her prosperity, but, in tact,
.they were Contributing to cherish and inr-
t''fie thtilti, as to the application of this measure
kike4ttled and other property, it was more for the
1414 assimilation of principle, and because he
Eeea,;° reason why it should' be exempted, than
,18e mhe looked io.any political result fro such.
1, "141-P`ljeation., The amount of dividend en
is,':,ll'"°perty in Irelmid, wh ch was received
eoiisitlrowers of Attorney .was, probably, not
klatie:r4ble, still opt-in any ground it should he
\l'as -v't,.tahle•to the service of the State, and it
;t~'re recollected that the proprtetors of it,
slat character at least, did not contribute
to staeixigencies of the, public. He begged leave
- that the amount which he should
°l.duty on the cases he had referred to,
toirit,„ 'le., on every p, lnciple. it ought to be,
ttot,. 'slitto• in St,degree, with the -value of
u,
pile FA of
A received. lie should recommend a
ills on the PoWtoi of At- orney, and
"N4`the value received
, mi si ilar t, piiinciple to die
s'a,,- i
' 41Pp ad valorem, Ditty on Guses. It
sl/I,l.ttant,d i;: the view he took of this part
tttrbet,Ptet, O
~ i,rineiple upon which he.re-
iiiiieio'"(t rtt„ p.tli,iment, were a fair and just
lenislation if it were productive of in-
Or, .t,l'e''already intrthe•ied resourses of tee
hatter
' what be 'night he permitted to ankici-
xvhicli
!1 ere
tohnd to yield those still better fruits,
Aby
It I- land stated he likely to grow from it,
l'.4ttioltieritt. which belonged to it would he the
°I lionourahle• Baronet oppo-
iaro°Ptiolii().ll4:..l dote him the honour to s'uggest its
Posit• t-low Pattainent might deal witliiil.l.its
iOrs
• "id ," he presumed not to say ; 'but
4t;,`,lne •,°,l,aPPeat either to this House or the public
our lit not to he acted upon, he was
teat
tli troy' admit; and sincerely to believe too,
i,i)°biection arising to it would he owing
le.,"ciehevPerfection, of his statement, or to some
it-Pitt-141*e in him who has brought it before the
eshoale,; and any merit which might belong to
11- Ale„4,.he most ready to ascribe to the Right
froni whole he had received a sti.gt-
C, a(lant„lch if it had been never mewled wit
re'ttitnittee-ge of his experience authority, the
eicoeeir.ve tnorvevn,l,,llii perhaps be not indisposed to
self, c 4,lvottr)bly,. and with more
ealw,;1101,, could hope to be extended to
-4, not
N, the same pretensions to public
The ,led the to authority in that House. He
to , -stieht „Produce of the duty 'at 15,000/.
t "Y) 4Q-uoitrable Gentleman proceeded
-"Pe t eont
tvo„l,,e- to -etoplated some regulations with
the be a anie Licenses, on which there
he °s of /;"1"11 increase, and also as to
iot,,4°"d not 3,"kers. With regard to the last,
.f ...tided now I'etitio the Committee, as it was
trI:1:1er 11,T, ant'', remedy the imperfections of
latew"ich a 10- t° do away misconstructions,
Ivas inteodedwber rate of duty bad heel' paid
eirsortie
PerS Y, the Act of Parliament. 'Of
lisrotfrl;4Pri,"eipali;z/,,re "ad taken advantage.
of the
,Sta ns Lritish 6. w out of an omission o
rita°,lP Acts. Art.l„reneY, in one of the former
platy
Glass the titibe,4eor. source of revenue was al-
,"Se---the Excise Duty on
e PVo(l,llce of which took at
P4sed I next item
Itr4 alteration in the t- came to was a Pl'o-
- ?°nveYed by Mail, rates
of Postage on Let-
(4,
re,Pated it,creas Ireland.—Tliongh he
haveveflue, by the r,e sit r,'venue in this branch
Priiii„the honour to.surtti'm which he should
ale
et) telorm a system
be t'iPal"biect, as well be
confessed that his
,1. its its best result, would
since. the period of
antic` ihat period
an
toc3-i1 li.,..lTicontinued defective.
tirleeui postage had' been"''e ipa(sisteYde(4)ll) vilethe
cope th' eeys
poii3.°l- Letters been
it
allde correspondenCe Miles
;oar
,was charged as from the metro-
.° towns at that dis-
ettelly as that of
Whieitlines as far fronttowns
was imposed,
lievolia heavy ra,e
of eachi that
in addition to
11';o 114 Proportioe, 0(111tY a rate
to the
,-,',lcorrespondence passing
observe --t eConimittee would not
tll"E• t
of:e oppressively this fell upon the
s parts., e(""ltrY, and indeed upon all- •
K'ltetuer distdut or not, where cor-

. .
was
7' respondenwas necessarily to pr.ss through Dub-
. lin. It fell, however, most heavily on the ctn.-
respondence of the south of England; arid of the
northern part of this Island, jsasSing through
Dublin ; and when the locality and circtim-
stances, of oar principal commercial cities. was
:.considered, he apprenended that he was only
cluing an act of fairness. He %VW', sure that he
was 'doing that whiel, as a regulation of revenues;
ivaS beneficial also; when he reconimended the
diminution of that heavy transit cut He proposed
to reduce it about one-third. The rate of taxation
would also now be taken on lettert upon the same
principle AS in this country ; it was intendedtri be
progressive accorditi!..; to distance. In Great. Bri-
tain', the utmost extent charged was three hun-
dred miles; up to that scale the rate was, as he
had stated, proportion:M. It was not -intended;
• in Ireland, to go beyond that scale ; but an ad-
vantage ‘vbuld be had to the correspondence. not
only by the greate: distante which would he em-
braced in 301) Irish miles, but in the difference
also of that currency in which the charge was
made.- He would further propose to adopt the
same principle rospecting the cross posts which
he had recommended in the last, Session of
Parliament with regard to the direct port,
namely, the diminution of the rate on all places
near to each other ; and in. fact to carry foe-
ward the same regulations throughout. He hacl.
the satisfaction to stare, that the 'arrangements
which be then proposed, bad been attended
with the best results. Ile never would con-
sitter the Post Office as otherwise than auxili-
ary
to the revenue. It Ought never in principle
to he made subsen ient to mere financial vitws ;
the regulations of the last yeart had more than
answered the estizaate he had made of their pro-
duce, even in that view. But they had besides
added tit the general intercourse, and augmented
the correspondence throughout the country. He
had the satisfaction in reflecting on time improved
state of toe whole of this establishment to know,
that in the conduct of it every facility, and all im-
provement, had been given to general inter-
course ; and those great works for which Ireland
was indebted to the liberality ol Parliament,
natuelv, the commodious station for packets at
Howth, and the improved communication from
the works in the port of Waterford, for which a
grant of money had been voted in the present
Session, would, he should hope, not he nnpro..-
ductiVe of those results' which their authors had
contemplated, and which the Honse ot.Commons
had with equal judgment and liberality contribut-
ed to promote. He would now,-,withthe permis-
sion of the Committee, state the produce of the
Taxes-for the two last years : -

1.2,744,445
2,779,667
2,455,6R6
2,555,674
745,673
211,678
2,2.0,W9

CUSTO3IS.-1812
1313
EXCISE.-1812
1813 ...
STAMM-1812
1313 ..
POSTAGE.--+IS.I?
813
Tile Net Produce was—

•
CusToNs.-1810
.. 2,157,391
1813
• EXCISE.-1812
181
STAms.-18123
1813
POSTAGE.-1812
1.813 f 83,000
The nefproduce of Assessed Taxes bad been-
-1312 ...... L.500,130
1813
. The Gross Produce— Malt . Strung Waters.
1812
1313

Of these the produce for the Quarter
to the sth of January was L.204,462 535,855
And the Distillery was at work not quite three months.
He would now proceed to compare the estimated
amount of the Taxes, as he had stated them last
year, with their actual produce.
•
• He had estimated the produce of
Customs with EXcise on Toqacce and Wine, at L. 260,000,
The actual produce was—
Actual produce in 7:1 months, from lith May
Estiraated at 41

L. 284,4,000
Giving in an excess of • 23,000
He had calculated the duties ou
Malt (s. per barrel) would give
Actual produce in the Quarter to sth Jail. 1814, was 60,000
Estimated produce for . month 3, in the' commence-
ment of tiie year, taken trona the actual produce
of the quarter to sth April, 1814

130,000
Estimated for other 2 months, making the Malting
year 8 months

Z. 170,000
giving an excecs of 55,0001.
He had taken the duty on
Spirits ((id per gallon) at
The actual produce had been from lath Oct. 181:3,
to sth Jan. 1814
Estimated produce for three months i❑ the com-
mencement of the year taken from the actual pro-
duce of the quarter to sth April, 1514

106,574
Estimated for other the months, malting the dis-
finery year nine wombs
The latter three rnuutlis nut equal to the former.. 40,000

146,574
Giving an excess on the estimate, of 56,574
Ills estimate of the Assessed Taxes was . llO,OOO
No collection bad been made thereon in the year
by the Act, but those Taxes having.On the old
rate produced 380,6001. the produce must he.... 95,00.0
And will be considerahly.more than the estimate
in this and ensuing years
The altetation of the rates of postage he had ex-
pected to produce
The actual produce was in 7i months
Estimated for 41t months

The Leather duties he had taken at
Their actual produce in 71 months had been
Estimated for 41 months

L. 15,200
5,000
5,500
0,900

He calculated on their giving .

L. 8,500

Exceeding the Estimate
The gross amount of CustoMs in the year ended sth January,
1814, was L.2,790,409
The average of the three preceding- years was .2,474.030

In,Tease
In this branch, notwithstanding the augmentation of the
Duties, there had been a progressive increase, viz.
ISII L.2,04,000 1813 L 0,779,000
Me 2,438,000 • 1814 2,79'0,000

The articles upon *Lich .an increase arose in
1813, were Ruin and Tobacco. The articles up-
on which a decrease occurred, were Coals, Re-
fined Sugars, Salt, and Tea, none of which arti-
cles had additional duties imposed on them in
1813. A false opinion► had gone abroad, that the
increase in the duties on Wines bad caused a de-
crease of the Revenue ; 4) far from this being

Elie fact, Vie aggregate amount of ditty receiyed
tin hi 1813, exceeded. that in 1812. ,gyp-.
pnrentlY, Ihere was 4-ilhng on In the customs
nuit;n WineS; thiS was accounted fcii
in 4.,iin;:;outleriee of the revenue iri 18,12 h;'iving
been ;welled to- a treater anouut than the cOli-7.
ctuuliram of the yeai• called for; owittg to the
conditions of the Licences in that year haOng-
Stipolated that the 'chides on. Pren'ci %Vines; int:-
Ported under such Licenses; must • be paid at the
time of the importation thereof: And -attliOngli
the preent rates on Wines. are three tinier as high
as they stood pr-vvionS to 1793, the customs on
ifi the three last years, exceeded the
amount Of the three year to 1793 in the sum Of
8S0,0001.• '.This he considered a great proof of
the increased wealth and prosperity of the Coun-
try. Ent if it were the tact that the revenue oh
Wines haul decreased, there, boulsl not be the. de--
duction atteopted to he made. It was not trtie
that the increase of tl.
venue. The groSS at

been considerably aug-

le rates had reduced the re-
fount .of the revenue had
vented upon the entire con-
Spirits, and of Wines col-
he only.fAir view that Ought
[t a jot conclusion on the
ing is a true statement of
upon the conttunption
.Spirit, I Total

..timption Of Halt, of

lectively 5 and this k t

F 6 re igt-1

Ile tic

and

Malt. lon Wines,
Spirits &
Malt.

made.