The Sun.
London, England, 1813-03-03 00:00:00

A RE 1.1, BLEiSII%i* TO NIOTAIERS.

DR,. BUCHAN most patheticallyt describes
he sufferings of Cliiidren while cutting their T,!etii
nu) it dangerous period, a,t which time the utmost attention
ought to be paid them t. particularly at this -critical season,
when the Chin Cough and netisles are so prevalent. if the
irritation of the Gums came with any other disorder, very few
infants recoecr.

Mothers. ought never to he without the AMERICAN
SOOTHING SYRIIP in OA Nursery, for if a Child wakes in
the' Ylight with pains in its Gatos, tins' v.sloable :Medicine ap-
plied, willlertmediately open the VOte.3, heal the Owns', and
thereby prevent fevers or Convulsions. t
.Paren.s Ntitg may be dubious of the virtue of the Soothing
Syrup, may refer to the diffe.rent cages thatTheve eppeued in
anti other Papers. Since Mrs. John Sort has appropriated
one hour twice a week, vie: front Nine to Teri &Cloth:on
Tuesday and Saturday mor, ilg, to the .Pour who may have
Chtldren atflieted in cuttiug thetr Teeth, by brinicing a letter
from a housekeeper, that the mother tea real object of chu-
rity; has made it sanniyersallyknown, that eases would he 9ft-
peritUOUS, a.a itsllrtU6 are known in alntust every fautily
where there are Young Children.
To be hid, wholesele and retail,of the'ProprietorsA. John-
son and William, No- 9'it Nowniiiii-street; G3ford-street;
attic by their appointment, of 41,Cornhill Bork.
ley, 9 S Fleet-',U;krktt t .52)4W andliChvUld3, St. Punta Church-
Y.lrd ; nutter, 4, Cheapside; Newbury road Son, St. Paul's.
Datue-street, piceY nod Sutton,
and by all the principal Medicine ;Venders
in Town and Country,, at 3s. pd. a bottle, for ready money.
Cititian.--13e sore tO tisk for johntion arid Williams's Ame-
rican Soothing Syrup, as there are .a number of spurims
sorts.

" I think,it -my duty to conimnnicate Co the House,• that
yesterday afternoon, while sitting in tins Chair, I received a
letter without date or signature, purporting to be a letter
from her Royal Hir,liness the Princess of Wales. As this
latter;bore neitker date nor signature, and was dclivcised to
the Actor-keeper by a person uillsnown,'l. conceived it to be
my ditty, not. only out of respect to this House, but also out
of respect to the IllustriouS Person herself, whose nanse.was.
connected with it, to tako no step concerning it without first
ascertaining whether or not that paper was authentic.. I
hope that in so far delaying to receive the plearire of this
Hone upon the subject. till I learnt that it was what it pro-
fessed to' be, I have dischaq,ed -toy &Ay, trithruit
myself to arty acemation of hiwing interposed any Osrrier to
prevent ati individual from layiriz; a else 'oefare this House.
(Hear, hear, he,•t)). I 11..ve now ascertailard that the 'biter
wakautheittic; and if it is ysur pleasure that it- :humid be
read, I will uow proceed to read it, together with another let-.
ter from her Itoyul liitpliwss, which 1 have r;.-Ceivratkii
inclosing a doplie,ute of to.J.t received yestaiday, with a (Lite
affixed to it."

genera cry
,of .IZe.‘,e, mad I")
The SPEAEACR'thQII read the lettcr, of NN:hich the
coineot3 were nearly as follow.
Montague House, Blachhoutta, March '44113.

" The Pi ince*.s of Wales, by her imtriAie3i.re, es vell-04 b 7
the advice cif her Coutteii, did yetterdity trartirtiit to ',Mr.

This letteOias heard with the utmost attention,
and after a very short pause— .
Mr! 'WHITBREAD rose and said—" The letter
which has just. been read from the Chair cannot .
fail to impres every Gentleman, who .has heard.
it with feelings oi its I,teat importance—of its im-
portance in so far, related to its subject—of its
"importance as it affected the Royal Family of-
'these .realms, .and of impOrtanee, to the inte-
rests
.of this nation- apprehend that such a
MM counication cannot be made,'and be suffered to
pass.•oti 'Without further notice than that of being
Merely read.. I therefore waited for some time,
till the Noble Lord opposite (Castlereagh) took
his place, and wheit.i saw huiti do this, .without
offering any statement to the Meuse, I interpret-
od the action into a determination not to offer any
bservations upon this most important document.
When 'l..see that, Noble LArd, who was -a Privy,
Counsellor at. the period. the forint:l. inquiries.
were terminated, and belonged then, as he does
now, to what is caned . the Cabinet ; when. I see
him take' his place, I say, I appreheiutJLiat it. is .
nut his intention to offer any eNplanation at this
-tune upon this matter ; I thereliire rise,
,Sir,
to the the 'Noble bird, it it' or, is not his in-
tention to coil the attentltn of the House'to
snbje(:t .
,
LOrd CASTLEREAG,H tett as, TOIACII .
any man can feei the delicacy of the question; And
of the situationin which the liottse is,atthis mo-
meneplaced. But as no later-a period than the
Clay after to-morrow is fixed on your paper for the
of a motion On this subject, I do not
think it necessary now-tO, 4i:ratty explanation
to the !Luse: Whatever en be 'the-dettcapy c,f
the question, and however painful it,' may be, to
enter-upon it, it appears that the motion of the
Hon. Gentleman (My. Cochrane Johnstonel is
likely to impose on ine the necessity, of an expla-
' nation.. I hope the linuse.will therefore fed, that
I-, am hest consulting my personal and, my public .
duty, by 1.1%1'1611g for that hoar (at no .great ti.i.A-
tauce) when the matter shall bere,,uhirly,and fair-
.
ly brought under their consideeatioo."
' Mr. \lin MISREAD l'ejOhled,---=‘,e.As the Honour-
able Gentleman alluded t.t is not in the.HoUse,
and we do not know whether the'motion tZwhieb
he has given outer has the concurrence of the It-
lustrious Person whom it most nearly a:fectS,
it may 'perhaps be ne:.eg'sary to wait nil
in his.plkce, to receive ft .:pro linn Ctt
thiSllo4lt. It May be proper to, requer.t of hint
;to -state his view of the question, and the coins°
he intends to pursue , and ahoVe oil-, it he hld t;te
concurrence of her Royal Highness
the %natter before the idolise, which k from
have heard,,l am inclined to think he flit.
will then be for.the House t 4, defer; rine whether
they will, wait for the discno.;,on tit' inoticnk.
or, As "rather think they WWI o,ll',,idt'V to hi more
desirable, take this.subt,t.in, eoo,ro itic;:.tion in-
.to discussion.on its o:vit ;041unds, -,,virbwo;
an' previous notice,''
tieye the subject dropne:l, tarter the
Treisnry Bench appeared etupty, all iha tit s
having withdrawn, probably to onsult the nil-
tore of coin the :e' thot&lc i•tdopt Ilii this tr,:-
esiuli. n llo:tse, 110wevvr,,,,.prote,eikd
other hu...;;11L-3,:.
Sir 3.C: 1.1r;,,v :.Lev gave notice,. thrzt he wonbl,
to-morrow, Innv4.: a return of theltrenfith and dis-
• _
trif.ution of ihe Irish 'Miitia ~:.ervint2.; it,
and Vi;%iles. Ile also took occ-t ion to acknow-
ledge an error, iuspecting the in.tuther of 120,11,0,-:.
lici serving in the Navy,, entitained h rimplikty
'p üblished by 1-Cink on :he stibieit of the Catholict
an't be•4l. a4iverted to ltl toe
course al the <kbates Lkll44Ct..
Lie names of the Committee hail,:itted to try -'

liltirlLS of cue retition
against the return of Sir
John Owen for the county. of Pembroke, were
brought up, anti called over as followsh---
Rothat itott Leigh. S. Graham.
•A, .1 Fo%ter. Hon. S. Hoed.'
•Hon. C. H. Bouveric William Rasbleigh.
William Leader. Sir W. Berkeley Guise.
Loud F. Osborne. Hon. Cacelidish Bradshaw.
l'ani Morrison. Henry Willoughby.
George POcuCk.
. Norninees—William Dickenson and Benjamin Hall.
The names of the Committee ballotted to try
the merits of the Liverpool Election on the Pe-
tition of General Tarleton ihOinst the return of
Mr. Canning and Gellert& Gasooigne; were also
called over, and consisted of
The !lon, Newton Fellowes Sir Mnrk Sykes
E, Xnatchhall • I.:, Finch
Hon. G. Abercrombie Lord Kensingtonsir J.
Anstrutli4. Hon. W. F. Mackenzie
Hon. It. Boyle Bernard Genrill Dunlop ,
W. It. Cartwright. General It. P. Heron
It. W. Newman
• Nominees—Lord Wm. Russell and Robert Smith.
Sir PaitrieLL postponed his moticn relative
to /lama in Ireland, to the 27th April,
. ,
THE CATHOLIC QUESTION.
The Order of the Day for Abe resumed debate
on the Catholic Question having been read,
Sir ileizrty PARNELL began the discussion by
complimenting a late Right 'lion. Secretary for
Ireland (Mr. W. Pole) on
_the 'candour and ho-
nesty of the speech delivered by him last night,
which be declared to be most deserving of atten-
tion, as coining from one well 'qualified to s(cak
distinctly as.to
.the leadiog facts of the ca•e. the
then hulverted to the charge of violence which had
been urged
,rigainst some of the Catholic body,
which he defended-as having heen,tatight theta by
their opponents, by their endeavours to put down
the Catholic Boat u ; by the. arrest of Lord Fin-
.;al; by the prOserutioos carried. on againSt them
had by the restorhion to power of an Adminis-
tration known tp be IhAtile to their claiths. But
eveti were they to. hlanie it had been justly said
that their langcutge ought not to iiiiinence the
House, which Was talled'on. legiSlate, looking
. to nil 'the bearings of the subject, and not to, the
inteinperanee of perhaps a'few „of its adVoCates.—
, Ile denied that the sense of the Protestants of En-
.
gland was hostile to the entertainment of the Ca-.
tholic Claims.• On tint contrar,,•,' there were re;-
titioos at:ainst them from only three English coun-
ties, which had been coiled together by public re-
quisition. 01 these, Nein and Oxford were de-
cidedly inimical.; but the
,third, Cornwall, was
eery rrpoderte in tare petition, and also sent a
ehnnter-petitinit in their favour. From onlv nine
EuOish counties u' re there petitions
from one tov.ht in each, ; 'three counties had trans..
Mitted similar petitioos' truth two toiyns in each,
and five counties scut petitions from a greaternare-
esf towns. result of the whole- was, that
in twenty counties there were no, petition ci from the
laity; and in twenty-three instances they were
from Lord :Mayors, Ardertnen, and Burgesses ;
and front .Scotland, that there was not a Single pe-
tition. ft was not; therefore, 'correct to say, that.
the majority of the Engli...h people had petitioned
egainst the (atholics, for the very reverm., be con-
lencleclovits the true state of the case. Before he
entered upon the hobject of tkeiritill petit ions,
,be
begged leave tcesafa feW Words on the subject of
secorities, This had "been the only question be-
fore thew last,SesSiOn ; they did not tfiscu4s Whe-
ther or no they should grant contessions to the
Catholi,zs, but on what terms they.shotild be grant-
ed. iiht now tht‘.".• rem again called, on to tan-
saelt all the rulihisii They had thought was remov-
ed, and which iu the year 1793, had
beliec'ed..tO he laid out of the way. They were
again brought- to' the tenets Of old'CateehiSins,
w hid) had been exploded, and to doctrines which
Lord Liverpool,, two years ago, had put out of hit
consideration, as hearing atria The question, and
Pereevd bad last session considered as never
forming any good groundsagainst tie ess clainis.-
I,Yere they ethos hack to this tritimphhut state in
they had again' rituoved .the rubhidi,
lett th flight, so that, they could sit
on tlic.ir 'own benches to, bear the arguments
against them ? He next, adverted to the puhlica-
tions by the Protestant eler:.v within the la :St ten
veneer, i42r';:ll he exceedine,ly 'eanideinned. ,The
MAOI') hf incohi he said, 'at' an annual visita-
• •
tirihilihd pronounced rathera bad political pamph-
iet than, was leis duty, it' good eeligiois•ehaege.
This produytian, he charaeterked as tinfounded in
its statemeats, iticorreet in its quotations, and
isomer h it crloted from other hooks gave garbled ex..'
tractl.,: It was a work of no light imoott, for it,
charged the iloman Catholics with holding ohnox..'
jolts doetrineq, arid with being C011Ce1•l1e41 iii the
reiw n tlio of Ir6s. If the author wiry prosecuted
for these assertions, he was sure he would be Con..
victed.of a libel ; for which there was a precedent
in the, e':ist, of Luten 'Wright, tried before
Lord Kenyon, for the pithlieution of a work, ef.
titled " A Fair 1. cp:'C',i'ht:aloll rif-the Catholics,"
and for which dattot:,e., were given to The amount
51101--if the ohehee of libel consisted in (Hs-,
ttirhH,;. the peace of an individual, how much
gremer it When it' went to disturb the petwe Or
nation. He ellothot. that the publication
,Is-iiic;J tier liatl untitled should have heen 'wide
theLsohjecit'of invesr;gatinit iii thrtt House. But
there Was another o,,,,nieut still more dahgerous
than the publicht„ which then metitione4i
—Ali, the Petition from Huddersfield. That
pafitiou corhalined one of the vile-.t midmost un-
fhanded end ninnies that bad ever been published
h:„ciost the lichn.in Catholia Said
the Catholics contact! it t meritorion3 act to
put heretics to death. Absurd fiti' sucli st ea-
lumuy might appear, it was et:titillated to pro..
dhee very' had eirects upon the :minds of a
cat hilt el 1~ of people ; anti time House
fi;t nimbi its t 11;.ive all6Wed any petitioniwhich con,
thine,' such in itter„ to lie on Their tptile without be.
,Towing further considerations upon' In the
tbecti An 'c at ern had been rai.ied about
the c!l:!,..ch bt:,ing in Ottnger,, similar to ivl)at.tytis
At that time Parliament thotightiit so
'wants, that they took the matter into considera-
ti(),l andmade it the subjett of an Address to the
Crov..n. Lie then read the account which'Burnet
gives to' the proceediagi at tliat tune. stilted
that tilV, cattle of the oh, ch 7 t the -conduct Of
the clergy,. Who the TAinth of the people WWI"
the terror' of 'ilmigniary thrittlT, 1t h* their (the,
(lergy',s): conduct i.-,i.; the- only thing that was:
ri ally dant:serous, was,the came., of'the out,

cry in the reign of Queen Anne, mid that which
was raised in our :own time originated probably
from a cause somewhat, if not entirely sh»ilar.
Those doctrines of the Rornan Catholic Church
Whieh'ivere CS-teemed most particularly dangerints,
were, what relete to the persecution of He=retics.
But whether Was the Hnuse to forth its judgerent
'On these doctrines, from'scraps,of pamphl-ts,.and
paragraphs of newspapers, or front the hooks of
the Catholics themselves, and the declarations of
foreign Universities ? If it was allowed, as in
common justice it would,. that the latter should be
chosen as the true criterion by 'which to form a
correct judgment on the subject, then, all that
had been said, and all that had been' wrote, to
thew the terrors of the !lowish religion on that
point, was absurd. In talking of the arraege-
ments which could be made re come to an adkjust-
ment of the Claims of the Catholics, Sonic (ME.-
colry had been started on the subject of mar-
riages ; but that was a muter of minor import-
ance, and nothing bad been said about it, which
made hint think that some 'means of proper ac-,
coammdation.might not be found. At all events,
when compared with the other parts. of' the plea-
tion, it Wits of so very little connequeuce„ that it
could never :istatid in the way.. As to the great
influence of the Pope, which had been so ate',
mentioned; it had not been properly peoVed that
any such dangerous influence existed. .As a proof
of this influence, an Hon, Gentleman had cited
the Occurrence's• about the,oath in 1791 ; but its
all that wa:s said on that subjec=t had been ..so ably
refuted hy an Hon, l aronet opposite (we suppOse
In tut ant,Sir J. (;oX ll'ippisley), it was needlea:
for him to notice it further. Aaother" circum-
stance which had been mentioucd in proof of the
ioduence of' the Pope. w;,oi, that the Montan Ll-
tholic Bishops made till! Clergy instigate.tae
against
.the Veto. This he positively deified.
Much bad'heen said by some Honottraltte Mem-
bers about tbe,oatb of Roman Catholic Bishops;
but no one bad been able to say that 'the oath
was. inconsistent ;vitt) the principles of loyalty.
The'oath- bad• been, indeed, at one titre object-
ed to, on account of some intolerant .principles
which it was supposed to Contain ; but in conse:
quence of Some representations insole to the Pope
oh that subject, the obnoxious words were left
out. Another- charge. *ilia had been brought
against the Catholies was, that the doctrines elf
their religion 'went to 'exclude the professors of
any other religion from salvation. This charge
was repeatedin the face Of contradiction. For a
contradiction of it he referred to I helast words in
it declaration of the Pope.' Yet it the charge was
valid, it could he proved,that it wits equally so, as
rigarded tholoctrinea of every other Chord). A
tenet was to , be 'found in 'the works of
Calvin, in which it, was said-----" Extra Erclesians
nulla nulla peccukrum remi6sio," In the
39 Articles of the Church of Eugland, there was
likewise a tenet of the saute kind, Another rea-
son which had,been given why the concessions re-
qyired by the Catholics wits, that the exclusion of
Roman Catholies'froin political power wag one of
the fundamental principles of the Constitution, as
settled Re.volution. '1 lie bishop of Lincoln had
gone so far as to say that Mr, Fox thought
hot to prove the incorrectness of such an asser-
tiwn, it wns,only necessary to refer to the opinion
which Mr. Fox had formerly expressed! on that
subject, and which was'quite the' reverse of what •
it was said to. be, by the Bishop of Limadn. The':
same Prehtfe had thieved that Mr. Ji.e.tice Black-
stone was also of opinion that the admission of the
Roman Catholics .to political pot,‘ er4vas
sistent with the principles' cif the Constitution.---
This quotation was, hoWevO, quite as incorrect,
as the former. , The. charge of, disloyalty,' which
is been brought against the Catholica of he'.
Ned, was most unfoanded. 'Mr. Piti had declared
that the rebellion in Ireland in 1798 writ not aCtl-
tholic yebelliou. And in the rebellions in :this
Kingdom hi 171:r and 1745,.. it could never 'be
found thgt the Irish Catholics had tiny concerti in
it. 1f these circumstnoces proved that there was .
no disloyalty among the Irish. Catholics, many
proofs raftheir loyalty could lie brought forward,-
As ,one of the most conspicuous of these, lie cottidf
not 'avoid noticing their comi ea in the 'American
War ; that alone was sufficient to prove their boy.
'lhe'treitty of Limerick :was still binding on
the Cronth ; and lie thought that certainly the sti-
pnlations of that treaty should he renewed, and
should be strictly complied' with,.
Wiettamtatt Jiablo.e. spoke against the
proposed measure of referring the Claims of the
Catholics to the consideration of -a Committee.—...
Cinch a CoMmittee would be composed of a limited
thimber:of the Members of the House, who could
have no' proper means of finally adjusting their
claims ; for hi the Committee there would 'be no
advantage; except indeed the: dubious one, of
Members having the
they
yge of speaking' oftener -
Oats once, but then thy tt ould_be 'deprived of the
Valuable tssistance of the Speaker, The debate
WiMid be protracted in the Committee,. without:,
any decisive mensure being adoOted. No practi-
Cahle plan bad beep mentioned in the debate, by„
w, ich the claims could be acceded to
.With safety;.
As one of the securities he re,i(!ired
of the Catholics, the domestic nomination of Bi-,
shops had been mentioned. It did not seem pro-
hable tiatt. the Catholics would agree; to this, for
if they refused to agree to the Veto, a lay
they would object to the domestic nomination of.
Bishops. .p-pon the whole he thought that going
into a Committee on the subject, was. (ithe might
be .allowed the expression) a, cowardly political
measure. It was shifting the responsibility front
this great body of Parliament to .the shoulders of a.
few Members, Ile thought that the best mode
that could 4(., devised for .having the nuttter set
tled, teas to, have a bill brought into the House,'
in which the privileges which it was proposed to
grant specified.
Sir 'tV, Scorr said, that the arguments on the
question had been well stated in the.speech of an
Hon. Mentber, Which was not its rentarkahle
fbi' the' exquisite talent which 'it than
for the manly candour of the sentiments whiclt
contained.' Relectaitce had been displayed to ac
cedelo the proposed measure of going nett) a'Com-
Mittee on t=he-subject, but .that: reluctance pro-
ceeded from the,appeternoce of danger winch was
seen ;of clan/NC pot chimerical, :•but restl He-
hoped, however, that he stated ,the unanimous
opinitel of AL:Ai-wise when lie said; that the oh.

ject of all parties was the sect-H.4y of Church and
State. Ile could not think that ;here was no
danger in granting to tilt.. Roman Cutholics poli-
tical power to the extent which they required.
Not_ that. he Would have the principle of exclusion
carried to too great a length; If the
he
of persous excluded should becoMe too large,. he
wophi Bare measures taken to abridge it ;A:lth
fairness. It was his decided 'opinion, that Catlio:
lies should be exchuled from all those offices con-
neete4 ;vide, the administration of justice ; from every that related to ecclesiastical Matters,
and from the higher branches' of 'political power.
Theadniinistration of justice .could not safely be
trusted to Roman Catholics; for, admittinz the
highest professional integrity to be found in Ca-
tholics,. he wrathd put the question, Whether any
person who might ha vie a relation in the Chore))
would like to haveany.questious abriut tithes or
Other, ecclesiastical matters decided in'a Court of
Law by a Catholic Judge ? was 'sure that the
.would never allow it; He would not sa.v that they Legislature might riot be very well nhinaged by
Catholics haring judicial situations ; but if such
situations were entrusted to these, many cases
would. occur, in 'which' they could not possibly
exercise the duties of the office without exe, ing
jealousy. among the-P,roteStants. With respect
to the dice of Lord High Chancellor, that of-
ficer ,was said to he the kCeper of the King's con-
science. Would it be safe to trust the conscience'
of the King to the keeping ,of
,a Catholic Be-
'sick, the r‘gious,concertis of Oa ingdom
' often come-tinder the consideration of the Lord
Chancellor, and it could not. be expected, if a Ca-
tholic filled that offi,ce, that he cOuld, in the re-
gulai ion of religious tWatter, be actuated by that
spirit which was so nte.essitry ft was impOssi-
ble, epoeciolly considering the doctrines of'the
Catholic religion on that subject: *Upon a tine
consideration of these circumstances it appeared.
that it was improper, and very dangerous to trust
oliceS of high political poWer to the management
of pershnS who professed a religion hostile to the
State. .The antidote proposed by siune Hon. Gen-:.
tleman,‘, Was, that the mischief would be diluted,
by the inferiority of the number of Catholics who
Would' be admitted to. the enjoyinent of power,
• Inn! into Parliament: This Wits an antidote so
very impel feet, that it, was needless to say much
ripim it, so tibviotis ivas its imperfection. In
mentioning thePetitiotis against the Catholies,
whichbad been presented,' helainented that the,
opinions of the Clergy 'had been treated with
shameful disrespect in-that House. The laudable
zeal which-they had displayed •in watching .'over
the safCty of religion, had , been turned against
'them, and they bad been acettied.of iliiterality and
intolerance. Ife hoped that- be' would . never
again have -occasion to ..reprebend -the conduct
of tiny Of the Members .of the House 'on that,
seore. It was not :possible to . deny. that' .there
was a hostility in the 'disposition of the Catho-
_
lice
towards the Protestants. was vex de.
turd. that'a man, Who'thonglit that salvation
.Was
.
to be Obttibied by those Who professed :.the same.
religion with himself, Should. try to: ebnvert all
others to that religion., and wonld also feel .a dis-
position of hostility to every person who refused
to be converted. The Opinions of/the Catholics.
of Ireland vverg more ti my Catholic titan those of
the lohabitants: of any other Catholic einnitry.
The reason or that wits, that in all Catholic.king,
dons there was some capital town which was the
seat of :theCatholie p;ower. All the Contniunica-
tions of the Pope were, of course, first sent to that
town before published to the people. So that in
Catholic kingdoms, 4he opinions of die Pope went
through What he would call.'a strainer. The, case
was so in France and in Spain. • But in Ireland
I beerminmineations' Urdu:, Pope came into imme-
diate contact with the clergy and laity itl their
t,iost timpialified state, and without being in any
degree softened: The natural consequence Was,
that the datriees of 'the iriSh Catholics were
Whist violent. It would be . necessary to
iii
quire wlt'at were the dectrines of the Pope
Fur that purpose he would 'go at once
to the:de-
clarations of the Pope himself. lie then react se-
veral extracts fromfeelatations by 'the Pepe : the
substance of_ which was, that:the Catholics should
not ally themselves with the profeLiors of any
'other religion; and that no religion but the Ca-
Should be tolerated. These documents were
nudoubted.; and be was surprised' to have beard
an Hone Baronet make some imputations against
their authenticity. He read another extract front
'a declaration, the substance of which writ;; that
the power of the Church was above all tetuporal
controul, These being the doctrines.of the Ito-
man Catholics, as declared by the Pope himself,
what could b,e said abeat the toleration of the Ca-
tholics ? It might be said, that these,-though the
opinions of the Pope, were. not the doetrioes of
the Irish Catholics. Ale would be.glad to-knot.
wilco they had-diselainied.,theto'l. It Might be said
. ,
that although the Clergy tacitly acknowledged
them, they .were disclaimed by the Laity, but of
that there could not he found.anyevidence. There
iedeed, be amongst the Irish mtv Cathoiies.
Aeineti of ohilosophical spirit, of literary attain-
waits, and liberal principles,- who did disclaim
this doetrines, hut it was to he Interred_ tlntt
the -.great body of the Laity' would follow the
opinions:4f their pastors, I:!,Specially 'in matters
Winch were sanctioned.,by such authority as the
head of their .Church.: lie could not persuade
himself that it • was safe tb entrust the Ro.
loan 'Catholics of. Ireland with high political.
power. lie' IttturiVetl the necessity of excluding
them ; lie regretted that the eountey was deprived
.of the lienefit of their talents, arid dell their laud-
able ambition-could not he gretified. But as
measure of self-defence and of security, that ex-
elusion stilts pCeetiStirr. It Vt'ould he. said that if it
was necessary, for r 1 3arety-of,POtestant tares
to Tx,clude
:Catholies 'from political power, the
:same principle- would, hold in Catholic S tate , 'and
rn them it would be 'unsafe .to, trust. Protestants
,with. power., Such ryas his-Opinion; and he there-
fgre thought that ttirsting Mr. 'Necker with polltreat 7
potter 'had, 4cen uleaSore highly impolitic.
Tha .dangerons influence which the Pope exerted
in the nomination of the eler,!:,, of Irehiud, the
Clergy tieemed not disposed tO. girt, up:. Indced,
they could not giVe it up without resigning the
I;cullmentat. principle of their faith. There emdd,
aceordiag to their doctrine-, he no valid admini-:
Stratioa of the oarraments without, this nOmilikt-

tion. If they, therefore, were 0 sera's an C
lomat 'upon the Pope. in this part olliii'ln
rity, it would amount to an overthrovrof their
faith, at least in one point. The Pope,lll,',
thinly now under circumstances in srlitc.l,l!!
pretnacy as surrendered in fact. His s_Pigr
his Arnmess sank Under his necessitim DO,'
the proposition of disclaiming his power
jeolcil with cOntempt. The flight Ilou. a.
sisi,lititlili o(i3i tit:
J. Cux llippesiev) did not propaseany wt!
1.1,,G., rat t.in) , or the worthy t3ston,il,
so that. if, they • went into the Committee( ~..o
friends i of t'llept7trvai°stillsrel.)l.°Tri.sle.w.9eisesnetcit'riite;'
liable to be considered as.the slave, 01'07
toe_ protegee of Thionaparte. 4He 4,45,,tc.'
down in Prance. He Was not at 101
,ii
P°tuit* ire cat; rub'. He svas in the paPri 1
course under the influetree of litionapmte.„..,
subtle andolingerous tyrant was to l'''
,;','i:
against by, all means.. - And he would .14,.,.1'.,„
no danger wasto be apprehended fto I''lti
tliate connection" with so dangerous a fqr ~,,
said', that in forein countries the Protol4;
Catholics lived amicably together, io tt,l)e, co
anent of the same civil rites ; but l'i ,t"en;po"'
tries the national Church was -not 1,1;1,701
sitiiiti.ituicoini
ments - were despotic, and could 'Ol c,,,,tit)
alit such community of rites with lesl3. 6
the religion at the vigning -pima i 740).f4
CtAlle.).l.ellitlit.iyi)le:SiedieVSily, Coritat
numerical majority of Catholics; evtijiit '''
where Were the means 4.10,4!
ing authority in those hands that
,o,.ti
'co- tj; uttisille°s tii"be:',6s.
possession ,or property i '. Could :lay 'pt fild
to_ - remore ' the evils coMplaineil °.(loi
the, exclusion of the Catholics, bY lieltdtr
milting two strong parties into an equ'lliso
ticio for 'power.? Could it be thinicil that. v
a conteution the Catholics :Void(' natur.14,4,1
their-religion -in contemplation ? Ile 'ft,d.ll,,itsr
vise them to loolt7to other 'countries in soi'toel
attempts Were Made. What was the etiq lij?
edict of Nano/. That expedient only Pve f;i
struggles more ' fierce that) existed beturcidt
t.eoait.,
el
demand)(e il 1t
.1;
a of t
going into the Committee lie could tiot ( c6O
see any prospect of a favourable result. S').'no di
denten had in his opinion adverted with t`:',,,-0.
asoerity to the Petitions that had been l'-..#
Tflese Petitions should .not.be disrego
i,,0
came from the tniddle rank Of life, 10' ".' 00
competent to judge of a subject so vitidll c'''ijf
. ed with the interests of the relit:jou that
,lti,,t
s
result may lag'ilotlychi'sgtecaiititilriti:ti.:i.tclbise.ascenaelit:ri:liiittt:et. ca:i'ilill::t.,,t,;ll
than idle parade of good will towards thfulfe,tlo
appear nothing- more hi the 1t,,011,
they may after all reject, as matter of
.',,1
tioti in some
end scorn, what "wbuld be proposed r°111f"- All
COMMittee.. .He did • . thatlt-'
part of' the laws hireiqi., r:'' (!
not mean to say, „00,
not practicable. ' If 'a Itight lion, tielltr.:3.);laP,
Canning) who—brought forseni.(l a nioti'':l' rrt
„,
last Session'upon' the subject was ;!riot'''. ',
l'•
pose any regidation, be should have 'doeii,',.,...
fore, and not reserve now as he did theai.',;,*i,!'
ertion of his talenti to a late hour of tilt;''!;,:, "
In truth, al the Gentlemen who had spoi'.4o,'
question left him ••:i
still in the ;I.:rk. lie ,':.
thing' in the measure props ti Cl".ecitl-11.
the question 1
,ti,tt,
past: it. . ~.oteittlft,
00
Lord CAsTLERtAoH rose.. He wz.s.,c,l ot;e01).
spenk his'se»titnents upoo the pr.csol:,,)ie VO
by the suggestion of his .1-tight, ilontolo.oo.
fi‘fr..Plunkett).. .This su . '•• ...1 'he C 3 . '.
gge.sttot - tit 4.
Cza bwio; alit! he must tiler, , ,-..,
fair. ,- The House might be assured tn, 40
o'4
with great pain he differed upon thi" ue.olirge
upon a similar one, with many of lii fcloo,-0,16
and in.-the. Vote he had now to givo, ,i'„, v
.‘,-ttli wh9tn lie formerly' cossets:Ted. il it, Keier'.l.
House would
eettvited on that occasion, its upon thr.,,101 c.:l/
Merely by a sense of doty, was what lk,.e, 1 ,10$ l'''''
prone now Clan ever to sulfa personal c nesriolo
pons to influence his conduct upon °lists(' diso,?°'‘
give him 'credit 'for. J-'' 0-oi,let"t:
because it was his wislt that it should ", eci,
ea with temper, mrideration, and euti";',:i fa ill,
the reproach insinuated,. that he loid l' he Ow':
question was,
duty to the question, and to his cottUtrY: „tit Il'
9°t submit. He never felt, or ever Oa T'
this'.,.
trouling principle upon which
any Atiall'ior to t't
was tei'be formed. The question ought 1,1 be Idi
or aught to be taa`le'..o,ll,t.,.
di3etissedys a party question. It siu'a.litere,'
free to the examination of any persou loiblii'
in it, or otherwise it would not be Il° ti iiiilc.
being- it to that favourable result m01401.'114 1
resolution of last ...SessicM. 'Without tr'` ,fil.'"'
in this way it could not become IA WWI °ft giv(itil')Ut
if discussed at all, it should be discussed "by by it:
reference to party, and allowed to prucce.ios klit'
own law, uninfluenced by any colisideralii4iat
its merits. . It would not be right in pion tio.:l;i'iti
a breach of duty to other public wen, bile 01.11:
line of conduct they have ['argued Iwo" oil
j
ect ; but a:4st he flonottrable Gentleman (,),Vl/ bt:O.
(Mr. Plitnkett), in a speech which had no ,11.,°1:-.;
surpassed in that House fur eloqucncc 811."..ct .
meat, had made some allusion tt) 106 C°11:11)"1111'''
the question, and the period 'at wilich 11'
eel:tett mike, lie may he a110...ed to refer ~rtoit
I period, anti the circumstances iir it, " c'ei
1 .to juiliz,e whether a taste for office, or. 'l, :,,Vi,
! public Alla, had been the iutiuencing prl",i',,
' hi"' find his colleagues. The Admiiiisti',',:i„,'
w bleb that ,Right Hon. Gentlenoin ,fornit".,-,
ieell' -t,
tween the.Mernheri or it. That ditret°,l,lo:,
was lormedou.a known (Inference of pi'.
re !:.,,
liave been knrovr; to bini. The rueOur.`,o'l!
in coutemplation upon the subject the:
1.01,:„..,
abandoned ; :tad they no,twithstanding, to "-;:
i" "Iliac. TIN" reconciled such cooditc-reL„5,1,,,
!AMU:. of public tluty, and consented !°1 0',,.i
office, on tile g,romiti that each irolivt:'t, il.':.[
act opon the subject as he thoirglit 11';., fie 111'1::
.
filiveirleigfoirtet:tilte.slVltsnljr nlolt abl.el'i (s.4:l7:ll:rit)bl'ilj•er.,l;!tite'niPtitll) 1 `l,
at present in power were placed in "!‘ iaty, ii;.r4
consistent with a reeling. or Public' :iticrit,s'il4,j. t
respect tt; this measure, that his ~,.,..:t 0,1,..c,iiit-t,
l'aVOklrilble W-4; WaS no secret• 1 'OO,. etit.lo:pl) 't
before consideret: it preclusion " from., sesiOot4"? I
atton of it, was reoved in the larl.„ to li r l
m
Parliament ; . and lie 'nen felt it lii..6ll:l:oor.ff,tl:.'
With lefipeCt to it any Course which wore
tilnents ;night dietote. He did lwr', ii