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London, England, 1849-06-26 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS Y.)

lIOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER OA the Chair blio.:tly after Twelve
o'clock.

THIRD READING.

The Eastern County,: and Norfolk Railways Amalga-
mation Bid was read .1 third time at.d passed.
CONSIDERATION OF REPOR US.

The reports upon the following Bills were considered
and agreed to:—
Airdrie Police and Municipal Bill.
Great Northe,n Railway (Amendment of Acts, De-
viations and Enlargements at and near Bostou, Bentley,
Lincoln, and King's-cross) Bill.
Holm° Reservoirs (Increase of Rates and Amendment
of Act—No. 2) Bill.
Shrewsbury and Birmingham Railway Acts Amend-
ment, Branches, and Deviations Bill.
Stirling and Ihnfermlieie Railway (Deviation of
Branch to Alba Harbour; Diversion of certain Works;
Extension of Time for comph• ting Line and taking
Land; and Amendment of Acts) Bill.
PETI LIONS.

Mr. HENLEY presented several petitions from places
in Bedfordshire, praying that an enactment might be
passed to prevent trading in prostitution, and for the
protection of virtuous women.
Similar petitions were presented from other places.
THE IRISH STATE PRISONERS.

Sir LUCIUS O'BRIEN wished to know whether
there was any truth in the report that the cholera had
broken out in the vessel destined to convey the state
prisoners from Ireland?
Sir GEORGE GREY was understood to state in
reply, that it was true that the cholera had broken out,
but that other arrangements had been made with respect
to the conveyance of the prisoners.
Sir LUCIUS O'BRIEN then made an observation to
the effect (as we collected) that on one or two occasions
he had opposed the Transportation for Treason Bill, but
would now offer no further opcosition to the due course
of justice. He thanked the Government for the hu-
manity which they ha 1 shown with respect to the pri•
soners, and trusted that such oecurrences as had taken
place would not happen again.
POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL.
The House then went into Committee on the Irish
Poor Relief Bill, and the discussion of last night was re-
sumed by
Sir J. WALSII, who moved an amendment on
the first clause, to the following effect:—" That
from and after the passing of this Act it shall and
may be lawful for the Poor-law Commissioners, and they
are hereby required to divide the electoral divisions of
the several unions in Ireland into such and so many
rating districts as to them shall s:fena fit; and when the
said division of such electoral division shall have been
duly made by the said Commissioner, each such rating
district shall constitute a separate rating district fur the
relief of the poor now resident within the raise, and no
pauper or destitute person shall be entitled to relief un-
der this Act or any Act for administering relief to the
destitute poor of Ireland, save and except from and on
aceount of the rating district, so to he formed as afore-
said, in respect to which his legal claim for relief arises;
and such electoral division, so divided into rating dis-
tricts as aforesaid, shall continue to be an electoral divi-
sion, for kll the purposes of election of guardians and of
representation at the board of guardians of the union
within which same shall be situate: provided always,
that in forming such rating districts the Commissioners
shall, as far as circumstances will permit, have regard
to the boundaries of tt e several properties within such
electoral division, so as to form the property of each
proprietor in such electoral division (or in such union,
it they 51y..11 so tt ink fit) into a separate rating &strict,
if sucks property shall amount in rated value to the an-
nual sum of I,OOC/ ; and if the rated value of any such
property shall not amount to the said sum, it shall be
lawful for the said Commissioners to unite such and so
many of the adjoining propertie: as to them seem
rit, b 0 as to form a separate rating district :or the pur-
poses of this Act; and provided also, that no rating dis-
trict to be forumd under the authority cf this Act shall
exceed in rated value the amount of 3 000/. per annum;
and prosided also, that nothing- herein contained shall
be construed to limit or pr vent the said Comlaissiont:rs
from forming 'try rating districts of any smaller extent
than I,oooi. rated value per annum, if it shall seem ex-
pedient and necessary to theta so to do.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the matter ep-
peared to him to be placed in this form. A debate had
bien taking place during the whole night as to the
maximum rate, and the House was then proceeding to dis-
cuss the details, when the Hon. Baronet had risen to
propose the substitution of a rating district for electoral
division, thus getting rid of the whole question.—
(Hear, hear.) He did not wish to enter into the
question of the area of the districts.—(llear, hear.)
The Hon. Baronet had introduced a clause which gave
every encouragement to landlords who possessed more
than a 1,0001. a year, and every discouragement to those
who had less. In England there were about 200,000
landlords, and the average of income was about 2001 a
year. He hoped the House would not enter into the
question of the size of the area.
Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT said that if the Noble Lord
did net wish to outer into a discussion he should not
have acquiesced in the truth of the statements which had
been mate by the Hon. Baronet who had just sat down.
—(Hear, hear.) He must say, however, from the op-
portut,ity which he had had of judging in Committees'
up stairs, that it the area of taxation were not dimi-
nished the number of bankrupt unions would be very
much increased. It vs as a question of considerable im-
portance; to him as an Irish landholder.
Sir JOHN FAKING TON made some remark, which
we did not catch.

Lord CLEMENTS said he thought that the
Boundary Commissioners had acted in the best way.
Mr. SFA FFORD said that if the substitution which
had been proposed were to take place he thought that
the Commissioners would be able still to retain the same
number of poor-law guardians.
Mr. CONOLLY said that he had understood that
the diminution of the area of taxation would be un-
just for the small holders of land ; he thought it would
be as well if the Noble Lord at the head of toe Govern
ment would make some distinct statement on the subject.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he had not stated
that the particular principle of this reduction would be to
prejudice the small landholders.
Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD thought that the
discussion at the present time was very inconve-
nient to the House. Still pauperism in Ireland was
not to be put down by some strong measure, and he
thought that the reduction of the area of taxation was
such a measure. But it was very inexpedient at the
legitimate time
slid that it had appeared
time for raising the present
present. time.
he found that several Hon. Gentlemen
dtwoihsShboibirmsa'jeitq:oibuWi.beesAcßtehrda;Stwith him in several points yet differed
with him here, and as be should he sorry to prejudice
thiquestion, which was one of great importance, he
should not at
,u, presento a )considered
isd
ietr.ed that the House having
The amendment wds then withdrawn.
Mr. N
in favour of a maximum
decidedrate, tbhye a largeques majority
najutw was as to w
the amount of that maximum rate should
be. Mr. Twisleton had recommended that
it should ba 7e. in the electoral divisions, without a
union rate. He would therefore move that that recom-
mendation
bad been adopted, there must neces-
should be adopted by the House. As a
maximum
sarily be a fund somewhere, and he was
of opinion that such supplemental fund should
be raised by, a national rate on the union, as he could
not see the Justice of one part of a union being called
of another part.
sfiucipepbobryted the proposition of the Hon.
Northamptonshire.
said that, taking the rate for the
the union rata also, he did not
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RUSSELL
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aLd
think there would be any necessity for a supplemental
fund, but if the proposition of the Honourable Member
for Northamptonshire, was to be adopted, there would be
a necessity of coming on the Consolidated Fund.
Colonel DUNNE objected to the maximum
rate being higher than 55., and supported the
amendment to that effect. He aas convinced
that to make it 7s. would be utterly useles,.
He should like to see a maximum rate of 35., and would
support a motion to that effect.
Mr. HERBER r supported the amendment of the
Hon. Member for Northamptonshire. If Honourable
Members supported the proposition of the Go-
vernment they would put a stop altogether
to improvement in Ireland; for no one would be
disposed to give employment to the poor in his own
district if he found he was charged a 2s. rate for the
support of the poor in another district.
Sir G. GREY felt bound to contend that the Consoli-
dated Fund ought not to be made liable to supply defi-
ciencies in the electoral districts. He contended that
the proper course to pursue was that which was now
proposed, namely, that when the maximum rate was at-
tained in any electoral division, the other divisions of
the union should then be rated to supply the deficiency.
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

LLOYD---
LONDON, JUNE
fine.
Bahia
24th, Jane, Gough, Rio Grande; Gleaner,
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' Robert Alexander Park,
GALWAY, JUNE 23.—Sid.
FALMOUTH, JUNE 21—Variable and Light.—Arrd.
Arrd.
New York.
BRISTOL, UN J E 94 Wi- d S.—Arrd. Emerald, Dug-
L.
dale, Barbadoes. Sid. Francis Walker, Calcutta. 25th,
Sophia, St. John's, New Brunswick.
OFF PENZANCE, JUNE 22 —Unicorn, Demerara.
DEAL, JUNE 25.—Wind E.S.E. to S.E.—Arrd. 21st,
Soarahaya, Swaris, Banjoewangie for Rotterdam. 25th,
Reliance, Watson, Matanzas. Arrd. from the river and
sailed, 26th, Abbcrton, Carr, Port Philip; Henry
Tanner, Davies, Port Natal; Ceres, Culverwell, Sierra
Leone; Amtgade, Costa, New York.
HULL, JUNE 25.—Wind S.W.—Sld. 22d, %Volga,
Quebec.
OFF
CASTLEHAVEN, JUNE 22.—Sir Charles Napier,
Tei.re, Mobile; Mary Ann Peters, Brown, Savannah.
LIVERPOOL, JUNE 25.—WiLd S.-- Arrd., 24th, Eu-
phurnia, iien fall, Quebec. 25. h, Mary, /\ ew Calabar ;
General Berry, Patterson, New Orleans; Elizabeth,
Rers, ditto; S‘r Charles Napier, Teare. Mobile. Shl.,
24th, William, Il4l.fax; Renard, ditto; 25th, Beatrice,
Pernambuco; Robert, liavaiinah; Salem. Quchfc; May,
Constantino-le. Off, Herald, Machio ; Isabella, Huguenot,
Lancashire. The Sp.,culator, hence to Tampico, was
taken into Key West, lit inst, having been on shore on
the reef, and part of her cargo sold; vessel condrnan, d.
A ship waa seen ashore on Tennessee Reef, 3d inst, with
s,veral wreckers around her.
PoiturcAwL. JUNE 23. SW. Derwent, Demerara.
CARDIFF, JUNE 23.—S1d. Cornucopia, Panama; Nueva
gtene, Rio Juneirv,