The Sun.
London, England, 1838-05-19 00:00:00

Mr. HUNIE.—The Noble Lord has not yet stated whether Lower I
Canada is tinder civil "•

law.
...urn J. RUSSELL—A portion of Lower Canada had been placed
under martial law by Lord Gosford ; that order had been renewed by
Sir John Colborne, but he had no doubt had since been repealed.
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Colonel SIBTHORP said he had moved for a return teii t ays Pne
the amount of four penny pieces, commonly called " Joes " (Laughter)
—issued, as be understood that complaints were very generally made of
procuring that coin.
Mr. LABOUCHERE understood that that coin had been generally
circulated throughout the country.
Colonel SIBTHORP said he understood there was a very general corn.
plaint among the bankers in the City of the difficuly of obtaining that

Mr. LABOUCHERE said it might probably be inconvenient for the
Bank of England and other bankers to issue that coin, but if it were
put into circulation, it would certainly proVe a great buiefit to the poorer
classes, espetially in the manufacturing districts. There was not the
least difficulty in obtaining them from the Mint.
Mr. HUME would beg to ask whether it was competent to the Bank
of England to refuse to put into circulation any coin which it might
please her Majesty to issue.
Sir T. R. REID begged to tell the Hon. and Gallant Colonel below
him (Sibthorp), that if he would call at the Bank tomorrow he might
have as many fourpenny-picces as he could carry away with him._
(Loud laughter.)
Mr. HA EVES gave notice that on Monday next he would move for
leave to bring in a Bill for the better regulation of steam-vessels plying
on the River Thames for hire.
IRISH TITHES.

Sir F. BURDETT be.zged to ask the Noble Lord (J. Russell), whether
he intended on Monday to go into Committee on the Irish Tithe reso-
lutions ?
Lord J. RUSSELL was just about to have stated to the House the
course he intended to pursue on these resolutions. It was not his intention
to bring forward that Committee on Monday—(Tory cheers)—bUt to pro-
ceed with the consideration of the Municipal Corporation Bill.—(Loud
cheering.) In stating that he did not mean to bring forward
the Tithe Committee on Monday, it was not his intention to aban-
don the proposition for going into Committee on th Irish Tithes.
He proposed at present to postpone that Committee till the
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Monday following; and if the Committee on the Irish Municipal Bill
should not be finished by that time, he should some day
immediately after that propose that the Hotise should go into Com.
mittee on Irish Tithes, when he intended proposing to the Committee
to change generally the tithe-composition into a rent-charge, payable by
the owners of the first estate, That would form alone the basis of the
Bill, ',;_toPf one with regard to the arrears of the million which had not
I::itherto been pakt.
Sir ItOBEItT PEEL Said the announcement just made was of consi-
derable hived-tante; add he tint irdperfeetls, InidetsteOd the nature
thEipbsal the Noble Lord intended to make with regard to tidies,
He did not wish the Noble Lord to help him to farther infor-

mation ; but it was quite impossible that any person, standing

in his situation, could decide upon the course they would
adopt in relation to any one of those matters, without previous delibera-
tion. The Noble Lord had now stated fat the first time that he
tended to reverse the order of the resolution, and to take the Mitilicipai
Corporation Bill first.—(Loud cheers from the Conservatives, an.
swered by loUd and repeated cheers from the Ministerial benches.)
The Noble Lord undoubtedly was porfeetly master of the course he
would pursue, hitt he did trust the Noble Lord would pettnit fi euffidient
interval to elapse, to enable those with Whdrid he aCied td &milder
maturely the course they would pursue upon that measure. What he.
hoped the Noble Lord would do, was to pcstpone entering into Com-
mittee on the Municipal Corporations Bill, at least till Friday next, in
order that they might have an opportunity,of consulting together.
Lord jorita nm.i,sELL s.rid that, of course, any request of that
i.hid with regard to three or four clays time for consideration was
a request that he should be most unwilling to oppose. He would
therefore postpone geing into Committeee until Friday, still
reserving what he had stated before, that he did not propose going
into the Tithe Committee on Mnruiay—(Hear, hear)—and that he
intended, as the Right Honourable Gentleman has stated, to reverse
the order he had stated he should pursue, and to bring forward the Mu-
nicipal Corporation Bill first. The Right Hon. Gentleman had said he
did not clearly understand what he (Lord J. Russell) had stated.—
(Cries of " Hear, hear.") • What he had stated was, that after the
House should have gone through the Committeee on the Irish
Municipal Corporations Bill, which he trusted they would agree to,
that then he should propose not to postpone any consideration with re-
gard to tithes, but that he should propose a measure solely consisting in
this—that the tithe compesition -at present existing should lie changed
into a rent-charge. He could not say at present whether it
would be necessary to state the particular amount in the resolution.
Sir It. PEEL—Then I understand that the proposition of the Noble
Lord will be limited to the conversion of tithe-composition into a rent-
charge.

Lord J. RUSSELL—Yo.
Sir It. PEEL—I shall meet that concession in the same spirit as it is
made. I reserve m'self to take an unfettered course; but if I feel it
necessary to take any hostile course on the Corporation Bill, I shall cer-
tainly give full notice, to prevent any unLir advantage.—(Hear, hear.)
CANADA.

Mr. O'CONNELL asked, if through the ordinary channels, commu-
nications had been received from Colon6l Arthur, since the executions
referred to.

Lord J. RUSSELL replied, that intaigence had been received of the
capital conviction of several persons, but no communications had been

received since.