The Sun.
London, England, 1831-04-16 00:00:00

SALARIES•

Earl GREY moved for a Copy of the Treasury Minute
respecting the reduction of salaries of official persons bold-
ing seats in either House of Parliament.—Ordered.
The Earl of ABERDEEN presented a petition from
Aberdeen against slavery.
REFORM.

from Grantham
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NohleLord
had the other night stated that he (Lord Lansdowne) had
said that he had reluctantly altered his opinion on the Re-
form Bill. It was impossible that he could have said
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on that subject; and that when the proper occasion came,
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he should be both ready and willing to state the grounds
on which he had so formed his opinion.
Lord KING presented petitions from Dunfermline,
Downton, Wallingford, and other places, in favour of the
Reform Bill.
ted a petition from Stafford to
Earl GOWER presented The Duke oft RICHMOND
favourDpreseonftedßefporemtit.ions from
Horsham
the same effect.
Earl CA WDOR presented a petition from Darlington
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Noble to
to the same effect.
The . Duke
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call
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Duke (Richmond) on a previous evening. He had
considered the discussion as irregular then, and, therefore,
not
ding to take any part in it, he had quitted the
ii°uintesebnefore the Noble Duke's speech was made.
NEWCASTLE
Earl GREY rose to order. It was irregular to allude
'
to a debate which had taken place on a previous evening;
and it was evident from what had fallen from the Noble
Duke,ul that be had taken his information from something
Ts was still ore iar.
that had appeared in the newspapers, as he bad not heard
the shp
HAN hiCELLOR,
nt the Earlrregul of HARDWICKE,
and Lord E
ELLNBOROUCII, made a few observations on
the po
he Duke
of oilier.
of NEWCASTLE then stated that certain,
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as appeared by the newspapers, had been made
on fin, by a Noble Duke (Richmond), about three weeks
egos relative to the representation of Boroughbridge. He
had loft the House at that and had not bad an op-
portunity of replying. But he now maintained that the
statement was wholly incorrect, and that there were not
Teeecla LORD itselfc.
more respectable, nor more independent men in the House
of Commons than Sir Charles Wetherell, and the other
member for Boroughbridge. One of the causes alleged
for th.e necessity for Reform had been, the controul exer-
cised over the votes of the borough Members by the pro-
prietors and patrons of boroughs; but it was rather un-
fair in any of the Members of the Government to impute
to him as a wrong, a kind of controul which they them-
selves exercised over the Alembers of the Royal House-
hold. There were no Members of the House of Com-
mons whose votes were under a more complete controul
than those of the Members of the Royal Household. He
wished to ask the Noble Earl whether there was any truth
in the rumour which had gone abroad, that in the event of a
dissolution--which, however, he hoped would not take place
writs for those boroughs which were to be disfran-
chised were to be suspended? Or was it comp,tent to
any Government to do such a thing? The Noble Duke
then alluded to some Reformers, silo had become so per
little p gross l a delusion
n o f
R Reform
on
rin the
of public.
hi
a o
to force—or, as they had been called, Reformers who had
been Grey made. For his part he thought Reform wholly
n
unnecessary, and he would strenuously oppose it. It was
a
He
propose, had,
if however,there
wasone
to be any Reform at all. He
proposed that those Noble
Dukes and Marquises, and others, who had been so ready
to give up their influence over the votes of Members of the
other House, and for which readiness they had been so
lauded and flattered, should forfeit that influence. That
was a plan of Reform to which perhaps there would be
no very great objection. He wished to state, in the most
open and public manner, that he thought Reform wholly
unnecessary, and would oppose it in the most decided
manner.

The Duke of RICEIMOND did nut mean to follow
the Noble Duke in the observations which he had made•
He had no wish to imitate the example of leaving the