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DR. lENNER'S REWARD.

'The CHANCELLOR if the EXCHEQUER
rose to-call the attention of. the Committee to the
iteport of the Royal College of Physicians, respeti-
ing the mode discovered by.pr. Jenner of prevent-
ing the Small Pox, the severest inflidioe as a dis-
ease to: which mankind is subject.. Whatever might
have been the .origin of the discovery,. it had never

been known before that Gentleman made it public,.
that the Vaccine Disease could be communicated by
Inoculation. If that discovery should prevent the
Small Pox, it was hardly possible to charatierise its
value in terms too strong. When the Committee
considered the advantages that .had already resulted
from it, and that would in. future result from it,
when .the prejudices that existed against it should
subside,. he was sure the Committee would not
consider the proposition he meant to make extra,
vagant, but liberal and just to the individual. No.
Thing was so difficult as to fix upon any standard
whereby to measure what should be the grant of
that 'House upon such an ()Coition. .The. subje&
had been under the consideration of Parliament some
years since, but then there bad not been time to
satisfy the House of the value of the discovery, and
therefore only 30,0001. had been voted to DoCtor
Jenner, instead of 20,0001. which his friends had
propoied. 'The inquiry that hid been recently
made,. was perfedly satisfs&ory to his mind, and
consequently he proposed to move a grant of 10,0001.
which with the sum already granted to Dr. Jenner,
Would amount to the, sum originally proposed by his
friends to be voted to him. It was'unnecessary for
him to urge more arguments in sup.. of his pm+
position, to those who had read the •: eport. If they
assumed, that the Inoculation for the Small Pox
was a benefit to mankind, they might then be able
to estimate how much greater a benefit this dis-
covery was, which, as appeared by the Report, was
a certain security against the Small Pox. It appear-
ed, that of thosa who had that disease naturally,
one in six died, whilst of those inoculated for that
disease, only one in 300 died. But of 164,38 t
cases of persons' vaccinated, only three had died,
which made the mortality Only one in 54,741. It
would be impossible after that statement, to repre-
sent , more favourably the advantages of. the dia.,
covers?! And when the deaths, and all the cases of
inconvenience that had occurred in that number of
cases were -taken together, they amounted to 179.
only, out of the 164,381, which was an infinitely
smaller proportion than the actual mortality by the
inoculation for the Small Pox. But it was not this
Country alone that was benefited by. the ,discoveers
the whole world participated in the advantages re•
suiting from it. Au objection might be made' to the
utility of the discovery because it tended to increase
population, but he should refer the principles of
practical rinitraility, in preserving hie where it exist-
ed, to Inc eucouragenierit of those cheeks. men-
tioned by Mr. MalOus, whereby plrulation might be
kept down. they were to go into a calculation of
the inpnuer of lives that had been saved by the dis-
covery, and the expence to the public spared by the
diminution-of the number of, persons in the hospi-
tals, they might have a means of estimating the ad- '
vantages of this important discovery. On all these.
grounds he would move the Committee, " that a
sum not exceeding 10,0001. be granted to his Ma-
jesty, to be paid without fee or derluotion to Dr.'
Jenner, as a further reeird for his discovery of the;
mode of preventing the Small 'Pox by Vaccioatien.s'
Mr. SHAW LEFEVRE was sorry to oppose the
motion, which he did not Out of &srespeat to Dr.
'Jenner, but from a feeling of pubic duty. Many
of the statements in the Report were ill founded,
and others were carried too far. He could bring
evidence to the Bar to prove that the rmo rtal)ty Via%
greater than the Right Hon. tkntlernan had stated.
This was not a period of the Session to vote sach
considerable sums. The Hon. Gentleman here
mentioned the case-of a physician, who in 'the year
1777 'prglised vaccination with success, and cr n•
tended, that if-the House was to be liberal, soma
part of the money ought to be granted to that Gene
tleman, who was still living.
Lord HENRY PATTY contended, that infallible
lity ought not to be made the test of great disco'
veries, which ought rather to be estimated by gene•
ral averages. He was disposed to -go farther than
the Right Hon. Gentleman, though he should nut
take upon him to make any specific, proposition to
'the Committee. '1 here was no standard whereby
a great public discovery could be, estimated that
woeld not enhance the value Of Dr. Jeuner's dis-
covery, if tried by it: If cottiidered' %ith reference
to the national benefits resulti4 from it—tostlle
advantages that he might have derived from his dis-
covery, if he had not published it to the ks urid--49
the ;effect it had in raising the tame, the honour,
and the character of the country—there was tio
standard for estimating the merit of any public
covery under which Dr. Jenner would nut have,
1.1"!,
peculiar claim upon the gratitude- and liberality
the House. It appeared by the Report, that the
deaths by the Small Pox bad increased !Juice tilt
discovery ;' and thougo tie should not wish to use
.
any compulsion, or to interfere With the liberty Way
all
.persont should have to ad as they thought to,o
adviseable for their own !health, *or for teat uf their
family, still he was of 'opinion,. that 'persons
preferred the Inoculation for the Small Pox, shout"
not be. allowed to endanger tbt health of ()alas.
Such persons, in his opintoir„.ouglit to be conlio#
ed to their houses whilst athttlert by the disease,
and. not:suffered to spread infeCtion through 111 e
community. if any proof Were waniei, tel trio atu~
of the discovery, it would be Montt in the ready re
ception which it had met with from all tiati°°'
even the least enlightened of Asia, where prep-
dices were most deeply .rooted., It was highly
tifying too to witness the. zeal .:with which the Gen-
tlemen of the Medical ProteSsion, not, only w the
metropolis, but in.all parts of the country; bad pro;
muted the interests of humanity, by adopting and
ailing upon thisimportant discbvery
General TABLED:AIf bore testimony to'. he
value of the discovery, from the number of the
military whose lives had been saved by it. It Wo'
besides, an important circumstance, that the troee.s
en_recovery might leave their barracks, and othe'i
succeed them without any danger of infectiou.-'
Military Wen were said to be most fond of prai'it'S
great conquerors, but in his opinion, this Gentleman'
who saved the lives of millions, was entitled w more
praise than the most successful coequetor.
Air. STURGAS BOURNE, agreed with t_h°.
Noble Lord opposite. (Lord H.
.Petty), that sef.,"
means ought to be taken to prevent person".
tag the Small Pox from spreading' the trileo017;311
Sio
He understood that it was the prattice at the
het
.Pox Office to inoculate out-patients to the t0.1.10_,-
b1e2,000 in a year, who were to corue three t 011,7,..,
week to be personally inspected at the
Ingenuity could not discover a more eilectuat ttilJr,
of spreading the contagion, and lie thccaiot

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Parliament ought* to'preVent *the .practice with the
ante care as they would prevent firebrands 'from
being cal rice; await.
Mr. H. EaOIMB had, the honour of being a
Governor of that Institution, and had reason to'thitik
that the practice alluded to had, been discontinued.
He arced that it was- desirable to take Measures
to prevent the infe6tion from being spread, but he
could inform the Committee, that the 'lnstitution
alluded to, inocelated also with the vactleVe-:matter.
It wits the merit of Vaccination that it prodticed "no
inf,'Ction, and he proposed, therefore, to insert some
%voids in the Resolution expressive of that cireuni-
stance.
Mr. N. CALVERT adverted to the-irregularity of
such an amendment before the substance of the Re-
solutiou Was agreed to.
Mr. STURGES BOURNE proved from a statement
from the Small Pox Office, that the number of out-
patients annually inoculated-for the Small 'Pox was
C9,()00. He did not mean however to say that the'
Institution was not friendly to Vaccination, the con-
trary being the case!.
. Mr. .EDIVARD MORRIS thought, that the
great claim of Dr. Jenner rested upon this—that
they niight look to his discovery for the extermina-
" tion of the Small Pox. - But
.it was iMpOssible to
exterminate this dreadful disease, unless the inocu-
lation fur it was prevented. The merit of, the
covery was evident, because nothing bad been
' found necessary to improve since it was first 'made
known ;he should therefore move that 20,0001.
stead of 10,0001. be granted to Dr: Jenner..
Sir Jone..SkABLIIGHT seconded the Motidii, after
stating the benefit's that had resietel from the adop-
tion of Vaccination in his neighbeniaood, where the
Small Pex been before fatal. •
Mr. HENRY HkatsßttT supporter arnentrmenr,
on the ground (hat the discovery been tcrodiced
to the world perfeet at once.
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Mr. IVILBERPORCE also, in a speech'a . •
feeling and liberality, and public spirit, supported
the additional grant, but pi oposed that thelimend-
Merit should be togrant, in addition to the %0,0001.
proposed by his Right Hon. Filen& an annuity of
1 000e,a..ye
ar which would be equivalent to the iti-
emits,cfroposed. This suggestion he 'made on the
groun that Dr. Jenner had become,. by his diico
very, a great public character, sought by all foreign-
ers, particularly medical men; and that therefore;
it was desirable he should have a continued Montt--
meat of his country's gratitude and liberality. Be-
sloes, he had a most extensive correspondence; which
was produetive of considerable expence, both in
Money and in time, so that he was the less able
to attend to the more lucrative pursuits of Ills pm-
fession.
Mr. IVIADHAM inclined to the Proposition
made by his Hon. Friend who bad 'just sat down.,
bet ,ai should no, be agreed to, he thought that
the oi iginal resolution should not be worded " a stun
tot exceeding 10,0001." but " 3 sum not less than
t 0,0001." which would leave the House at liberty
to enlarge the grant hereafter, it they should think
it. It was difficult to determine what reward should
be given for such a discovery. But if, on enquiry,
ft should be fbund to possess reality of merit and ori-
ginality, there could be no danger of carrying the
liberality too far, or making the reward too great.
The Right Hon. Gentleman, from the ascertained
originality, reality, and importance of this disco-
very, thought an ample reward should be given,
and that 20,0001. or an annuity of. 10001. with
10,0001. was not too much under every view of
econ,qh T.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
thought it material to state, that an annuity could
tam be voted without the previous forth of a Com-
mittee of the whole House, or without a Message
from his Majesty. Under eery consideration of the
übjeta, he thought the sum originally proposed was
. just what ought to be voted. He Commended the
• tare taken by the Speaker to disseminate the convic-
lion of the established authenticity -of' this disco-
Very, by causing an extraordinary number of copies
'of the Report at the College of Physicians to be
Printed, and 40 -be jpdiciously distributed through
the country. .410 again defended the originally pro-
Posed vote, asteuest reasonable and proper.
stZte r.
IV S:11/27/ thought., that in order to eon-
grant or reward, the expences Dutor
Jeitner had. been At ought to be previously paid.--;•
DeciorJenner coutu prove, that he had expended
'note that, the original sum voted to him, inl)rooa-
g, atirtg the discovery, before the vote had passed.---
tie cued from a Madi id Gazette of Ottobur last, an
account of the honours dune to a medical person,
tent to Communicate the Vaccine Inoculation in all
the toreign Possessions of Spain, upon his return
frorn his mission. 'He cited reports from various
Parts of the. world, stating the success Of 'Vaccina-
tion, particularly in Our Indian Possessions. He
trusted, that under these circumstances, the larger
reward Would be voted.
t.a/r. 1111-1111.13 READ maintained the propriety of
voting the larger sun;. He was the more particu-
larly Interested in recommending this discovery to
remuneration, as it had contributed infinitely 'to the
relief of the poor, in whose cause be was now par-
. ticularly engaged. If this opportunity of conferring
an adequate reward should be passed by it would ne-
ver return.
Mr. FULLER also supported the enlarged motion.
He thought something ought to be done to prevent
lltoculation fa n the Small Pox, otherwise the disco-
very would not have its full effeel.
Mr. BAR ONG spoke to the same effea.
Mr. G. ROSE supported the larger compensation.
Captain WOOLMORE spoke in the highest terms
of the happy effects of - Vaccination in the Navy.
The question being now called for, a division took
plat the larger grant (20,0001.) SO--Against
liJ .47.-----Majority 13.
A bliin of 70001. was granted for ending a Pier
in Dundrum Bay, after some opposition from Sir J.
Newport, on the ground that' the Do.imshire fa-
mily intended to erea such a Pier at its private ex-
tence ; and some observations in answer from Mr.
oster. The Report is to be received to-morrow.
The Order for receiving the Report of the Com-
mittee on the sMititia Bill was, after some coeversa-
telonas to the convenient time for certain farther di6-
usion deferred till to-morrow ; to be -farther de-
ferred till Friday, if' convenience should requite.
Th
CHANCELLORCHANCELLORti ANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave no•
ce, that an Friday he should move time remaining
Ariby Estimates.

• Mt WorreesAD moved the Order of the Dav
for going into a Committee on the Pours' Relief Bid.
Mr. DAVIES Gant spoke against the v'hole s.)N-
frill of .the Poor Rates, Which were a grOL and
increasing grievance, unparalleled in anyCtne'r coun-
try. He intimated his intention to take the sense
of t he House on several of the clauses..

On the Clause relating to Settlement, a conversa-
tion took place between Mr. MORRIS, Mr. Wiwi'.
BREAD', Mr. FULLER, Mr. NICHOLSON CALVERT,
Mr. DAvias .GIDDY', Mr. W. &ma,. Mr. POLECA-
RIM, Mr. Rosa, Mr. STURGES BOURNE, and the
SOLICITOR GENERAL. _ _ _

Mr. STURGES BouRNE proposed that the blank
should be filled up with the words " ten years," in-
stead of " five." _ .

Mr. WHITBREAD was willing to admit the intro-
du6lion of " seven years."
A division ensued—For the ten years, 32
Against it, 25.----MajOrity 7.
Mr. W. SMITH moved for the adMiision into the
Clause of a proviso that it should not extend to
Norwich.
After some observations by Mr. WHITBREAD this
'Motion was negatived without a divisiOn. A long
discussion then took place on the question that
the cla'sse so amended stand part of the Bill ;" which
terminated in a diviSion 'the Clause, 3
Against it, 30.7--Majoiify P.
Mr. WHITBREAD then declared his intention of
abandoning the Bill fOr the relent Session, and the
'Chairman left the Chair.,
The ComMittees. on the 'Parochial School Bill,
and the Irish ArMs Bill, were postponed ; the for-
Met to TUesday, the latter to Friday.
• In a 'Committee to consider of the Spirit Trade,
the Chairman was direded to move for leave to
bring in a Bill tor Regulation for a time to he-
limited for the. Trade between Great Britain and
Ireland iti Spirits, the, manufadure or produce of
'either country. The House having been 'returned,
leave was granted:
On the 'Morton 'of Mr. IlusittsSos, It Was or-
dered that the Rouge should this day resolve itself
into :a Committee to consider 'of Exeinptintis in
Certain cases in the sale of Certain goods imported
frOM Arne'rica . from the Audion, Duties. The
Oilier *Orders of the Day. were • t hen, disposed of,, and
at Two o'clock this morning, the HOuse adjourned.

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