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Almrdeen had said, that this rower of rewarding should he-,
long to the House ; but he (Mr: Wynn) thought than the
House ought to have no such power. The Crown was the
proper constitutional source of honour and reward far public
services, and if that power were to he transferred to the
House, the Constitution would he at an end.—(Hear, hear,
front the Opposition.)—Yes, he would say, that if the House
was to take upon itself that power, the Monarchy would heat
an end, and the country would be changed into a republic.—,
(Hear, hear, hear!)—With regard to what had been said
about the opinion of Mr. Fox, he (Mr. Wynn) believed that
that applied not to the application of the Civil List, but to
the regulation of it. The House had no doubt a right to look
into that list, as they had into every branch of the expendi-
ture, but they had no power to take from it. He deprecated
the frequent allusions to the Civil List in that House, as
calculated to throw disrespect upon the Crown. Mr. Fox
himself had held, that the amount of the revenue of the
Crown should he fixed at the beginning of the reign, and not
altered during it, except at the express desire of the Sovereign.
This was absolutely necessary, in order that the Crown might
not be brought into an improper dependence on the Howse ;
for nothing was more likely to destroy the proper reverence
fur the Crown than the discussions to which such a power
in the House would lead. It would be placing the Crown at
the mercy of any Ministry, who, fur temporary popularity,
would so diminish the allowance, as to place the Crown un-
der the necessity of applying frequently to Parliament' for the
payment of its debts. The House could not pacs by the
rat offer which the King had made, and make hintsubrnit to
measures which might force him to become a supplicant, in
the course of that long reign which they all fondly anticipa-
ted. Nothing would be more degrading to the country, than
that the Crown should thus be made a constant beggar in the
House.
Sir J. S. YORKE wished to know if the reduction which the
King had proposed was to extend to the allowances of the
Roval Fatuity ?
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that the allow-
ances of the Royal Family were not placed on the Civil List,
but on another fund, in order that any saving which was
made on them might he immediately beneficial tu.the public.
Mr. PETER. MOORE said, he agreed that per suns who
had rendered long services ought not to be left to apply to
Parliament. He would contend that the Civil List, with the
exception of the Privy Purse, was under the control of Par-
liament. He wished to say a word respectiog his Honourable
Friend the Member for Aberdeen. He had lately been
laughed at, and endeavoured to be put dawn by all sorts of
means. But he hoped that he would not be put down.—
Some years ago he commenced the same course as his Hon.
Friend, but he was unsupported. His Hon. Friend, however,
was not unsupported. He had found a most powerful friend,
that would support hint in every thing; a friend the would
long stick by hint—and that friend was public distress and
public calamity.—(Loud laughter !)—The Honourahle Mem-
ber said, as he differed from the Noble Lord, and as
he wished to have the papers printed before the House agreed
to the Resolutions, he should move that the Chairman do re-
port progress.
Mr. GIPPS apprehended that the course taken by the Hon.
Member was irregular.

Sir M. W. RIDLEY was not prepared to support the mo-
tion of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Moore). The Resolution, as
proposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman, did not pledge the
House to the details of the measure. There was no pledge ex-
acted by agreeing to that resolution to support the Bill in all its
clauses. The Noble Marquis himself had stated the resolution
to I e merely preliminary. He, for one, was willing to say, that
if a man in the departments of the public service had wasted
his life, tattle greater portion of it, usefully and actively, that
such a man was entitled to remuneration.—(Hear!)—He was
convinced that, solicitous as every man was for economy, put.-
lie opinion coincided in such a feeling. The Right Hun. the
Chancellor of the Exchequer would take 10 per cent hum all
offices, without reference to the hopes or the preferments to
which offices led. There was a class of office; which led to
the first promotions; and the same deduction was only to be
taken from them as from offices, the holders of which could
never look forward to such preferments or distinctions.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, observed, that
with respect to the time at which the deductions should com-
mence, it was intended that as to those offices which were

under the immediate eontroul of Government, the deductions
should commence from the sth of .January last ; the deduc-
tions from the other offices would remaiii under the cowl-out
of Mirliament.

Mr. cm.cRAFT observed, that to the Resolution as pro-
posed he had nu objection upon the principle. The period
would arrive, in the discussion of the details of the Bill, at
which the amount of deducdons from the lower offices might
he discussed. The Civil List, strictly called, teas estimated

at 2 ruillions ; out of that portion of it which applied to the
Household, his Majesty was graciously pleased to otitr a de-
(lndian of 30 per Cunt. Such a deduction he estimated most
valuable; first as a principle—(bear, hear!)—and next, be
conceived it a great saving in point of economy.
Mr. %VIM. SMI al said he should support the Resolution
with the understanding that he was not by that rote bound
to support the details of the measure.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER made some
statement in figures, which we could nut hear su distinctly as
to report their application.
Mr. PETER MOORE did not wish, under the impression
of the House, to persevere in his motion for the Committee's
reporting progress.
Sir. HUME wished to ascertain what the deduction was
to be front all pensions, above 5001. per annum, held at
pleasure? -

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, as we under-
stood, said that was a question depending on the future deci-
.

on of Parliament.
Mr. W. PI-I( LIPS did not conceive that a reduction of

200,0001. or 2,000,0001. veui a sufficient reduction, when the
landed and manufacturing interest were suffering a far gu cater
reduction, under the exigencies of the country, in their re-

spective properties.

After a feW words front the Marquis of LONDONDERRY
and Mr. LENNARI), the Resolutions were agreed to, and the
Report ordered to be received to•tborrow.
MUTINY BILL.
Lord PALMERSTON ;tweed the second reading of the
Mutiny Bill.
Mr. HUME observed, that in the present state of the
House he should not oppose the second reading of ,the Bill,
but gave notice, that upon the report he should call the at-
tention of the House to that clause, under which the Crown

assumed the power of dismissing officers without court-roar-
tial.—(Hear, hear !)
Mr. GURNEY trusted that the attention of some Honour-
able Member, of greater indoenee than he possessed, would
be directed to the crying evil of continuing en:istiiient for life,
Mr. ‘VETHERELL wished to know bum the Honourable
'Member for Aberdeen (Mr. Hume) whether it was his in-
tention, in his motion for the report of the Mini iny Bill, to
deny the power of the CrOWN to dismiss officers without trial ?
Mr. HUME—Yes; that will be the object of my motion.
The other Orders of the Day were their disposeil of,and the
House adjourned at Half-past Eleven o'Clock.

VOTE OF THANKS TO DR. FORBES,
Late of Penzance, 710Z0 qf Chichester.

[hewn " The Cori wall Gazetlc."]

At a Special Meeting of the Governors of the Penzance
Public Dispensary, held on Wednesday the 27th February,
1822,—the iVorshipful the Mayor in the Chair ;
'Zest)lved—That it is with great concern we receive the re-
signation of Dr. Founcs, Physician to this Institution, to
which he has. with sitch unremitting attention, applied his
time and abilities, during four years and a half, to the great
relief of its numerous afflicted patients, amounting, in the
last year only, to almost seven hundred persons ; that we
are deeply sensible of his humane and benevolent care and
kindness towards the sick poor, riot only at the Dispensary,
but in visiting them at their habitations during their illness
and recovery; and also of his zeal in promoting the pecu-
niary support of this Institution to the utmost of his power.
Resolved—That, for these reasons, and front personal re-
gard, we request hint to accept of our grateful thanks, and
also to be assured that we most cordially and sincerely wish
him professional success, with a long enjoyment of health
and happiness, in his new situation.

Resolved—That a copy of these Resolution,, signed by the
Governors present, be transmitted to Dr. Forbes, and also
published in the Cornwall Gazette.
Signed by the Chairman, E. C. GIDDY, and 2l Governors
present.

At a Meeting of the Council of the Royal Geological Socie-
to of Cornwall, held at the Museum, on Saturday, the 2d
March, 1922, Henry Penqarves Tremenhetre, Esq. Viet.
President, in the Chair.—The resignation of Dr. Form's, as
cretary to the L►stitution, having been announced,—
Resolved—That the Council receive with gi eat regret the
resignation of Dr. Forbes, on account of the important ser-
vices rendered by him to this Institution, of which they feel,
and shall ever retain, the deepest sense; sincerely wishing him
a long enjoyment of health and happiness, and flattering I hem-
selves that although the Society has thus unexpectedly lost hiS
official services, it will still be aided by his scientific commu-
nications as an Honorary Member.
Resolved—That a copy of this Resolution, signed by the
Chairman, be transmitted to Dr. Forbes.
(Signed) H. P. TREMENHEERE
Clviirman and Vict-Presid,