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London, England, 1807-07-24 00:00:00

IRISH OLLIIE 110U5t;S.

On the question fot• reading a second time the
Irish Glebe Hothe 11111,

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• The Earl of HARDWIGICE ,obje4ed to the Bill,
which he, conceived to .be superfluous and utineces..'
nary. An Aft was passed in 0303 for, the. same
puipose a 3 Ole present BO), and no satisla6tory reas.
son uas stated why that AO was not carried into
emictltion, or why', after passing the former Atl,. the
...present Bill became necessary.,
Lord Ittnitsmt.E observed, that -in consquence
of us being tennired in the former Aa that the Board
of First Fruits in. Ireland should give security stir the
Honey adVanced•from the Treasury for the building:
. of Glebe Houses; and the Board from the nature of its
constitution as ktrast being incompetent to give such
security, the Ad becattie nugatory, It way therefore
fotind necessary to bring-forward the present Bill in'
' order that the intended measure might be at length
carried into effed.
The Arathishop of DUBLIN strongly urged the
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expediency of c3!r)itig'this meainre- into etredt,l and.
which could not be dune withotif the aid oft& 'pre-
pent Bill. . !7.
. The Bill was read a second time, and committed
for to-marrow.` Adjourned till to- trOr row:(thip day).

HOUSE; OF CUMMQNS, ;.,,,i •
•
• ' 111UBSDAY, Jt.ILY 23: ..A.)
The SPEARta informed the House, that the per-
inns who had pre4ented Petitions complaining, Qf
undue Returns for the Borough ofLanctister, and for
. lientiew, had. 6110, to enter into recoginiauces.—
These Petit ions were accordingly disChaiged.
Mr: Johnstone, from the Seeretary, of State's
Office in Ireland, presented an Account of the In'.
' terchange of Corn between the two Countries, kora
• Odotitl= I ao6, down to the latest period: . .
, Lord Mt ttrON presented a 'Petition from the Cloth
Weavers In Yorkshfre, Wiltshire, 'Somerset, and
Gloucestersh:re, arlainst the Woollen Regulation"
VI, stating the distra&itos which pact 41.thAisted
between them and their Ma“ers, and the hardships
under whieli they themselves labotired.lle Peti-
tion wets arOered to lie on the tab!e.
The Account's of. Brown and, Muscovado Spgar.
• f.a. the h 6.1 13 years, laid on the table, were referred
to the Committee appointed to consider 'of West
India Affiirs.
'The Militia Pay Bill, Militia Adjutants' Bill, Mi-
Witt Subalterns' Bill; aud.lrish Militia Pay Bill, were
Severally read a deed, Unto,. rinepassed,
, A Message was t.ceil tai tri,in the Lords; stating •
that their Lordships had'agreed to the Lottery Bill,
... Irish Prevision Bili, Irish Spirit.Lic,cking BEI, and
several Private Bills. ,
. .
--. ;'. Tii Report of the Committee 'of Snpply. of yes,
tertian granting to his Majesty the ,inm of 2,win,
towards repaving King 11,...iiity VI i!ii',. ( •1:i1,-;, s,v,ii
brought up,'.agreed to, and a WI oid(Accl accord 7
, . joi?,.lr,
- 1.1."1ie Report of the Committee. on German iancn
, wan also • bronght up, agreed to, and a Bill Ordere4.l,
• aiBr6yably to that' Resolution.
, '-Sir's'. To a+ 0 st, In the absence of his [Ton. Friend
(fir. Let htuiilge). moved, that the'Or..lef of the
D 4 fur the ,Fitn.u;e rei,olving'ilito, a Gonmittet, of
the whole House on Tuesday, on the taihjea of Mr.
P•diTlAs ppolicatinh, he di ;charged. It 'was tie in-
imtion of . his, lion. Friend :to give notice wl*n he
wislivci the Order 'to be tent! wed, Consi ',link that
the bn4iness was not one in which an inditidual alone
was interested, but that public faith W. 14 Unpilealed
- in it ; considering also the late period of the Session,
lie did not believe,it was the Wish of his Honourable
.friend to bringiforward the 3111)jed at present. '
sTm(c. Ittict'oßv PILL,
On the motion fortaking the. Report on this Bill
into farther considvration, , .
Sir Enw ARD LItTLIVIII?7 opposed the farther pia.
ct±c ding 4.ti time Bill, on the ground that the whole of
the L:orded Interest it) the,Deighbourhood, and p`go
out of ni.4.43, 4000' of thoinhabitstitth Were decidedly,
awinit it. It was a Bill btotight, tit by iho' Rotor
.of:Stoke on Trent, of whieli'he was also the Pro-
tnietor, for lease to divide the Parish, by ere4tiug
four chapels in separate Reaories, which' of course
he was meant to have the privilege. of diSpOsing of.
It was therefore a' private objeel which was sought
to 1)v attained ntif!er the pretence. of public advent,
,- tage. In this argument the worthy ,Wronet was.
ttupportect by the Honourable Mr.,Ward, Lord ,Mil:-.
' ttin, Eze.
. . ,
Mi'..l-14.ykras, Briowne, Mr,,Stotru .ke.i on the
whet' hand, contended that tree Rejtor of, the. Parittti,
in which by she increase of Manufacuitiits, the "aim-
,., bitants now amounting to :upketr(l3 iof 50,40 , alba
thei: itly6rod of which was, upwards of 2nool. p r an-
mfti much to his honour, came forward
,ro,propose-
t'est it shiruld be divided Into five small. Rejories,
t V vt•by prtwatig farad fOditional number'of deserv-
I ',; Clergymen, who might be at present, as too.
many. were, very inadequatelyi settled, . It. was - im-
. -possible that 400000 or *0,00.0 porSOnb in one parish
tAid be adequately attended to by ono ClOrgythan -,
and it t.:Ould never be an argument against any4nea-
pure of real public utility, that it might, at the 'same.
time., his ofintlividuAttdvantage.
Thti;Hollhe then divided, for the BM, 63•-. against
it, I}---'Majority in favour of the Bill, b 4.
P,AsT INDIA UONDS BILL,
Mr. floottouas brought up -.the Report. of the.
f' ?,ht India Bonds,Bill. -

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On the cptestien that the amen
mittee be read a tiecond time,
Mr. PETER Mootte-entered into-a .detailed state-
ment and review of the affairs of the East India Com. -
pany, in order teihew that its debts, and embarrass-
ments were I be consequence of measures which had
been -foiced'upon the. Company bythe Governinent
Ind.the Board of Conteonl, for the etTeOs bf which
the Company ought not; to he responsible. It was.
inconsequence of such -measures that the' wars
which had taken place in India had embarrassed The
Company, that the participation on the plan of the
pablic had taken place but once, ,and contended
theretbre that the public had a right spot only to
make good to
,the Uroprietors their, stoats to the .
amount of twelve millions, but also to discharge. the
,whole of the floating debts of the Company. ,
Mr. DUNDAS, replied; that that was northe time
for entering into. a detailed examination of the India,
Accounts. It was a most extraordinary doetrine to
maintain, that the expellee of Ors undertaken for
the defence of the Company's territories, should 'be
defrayed bY, thepyblic. As to what- !lad biren said
respeoling the participation on the part of the public,'
he should only answer by hi tinTilig the Hon. Gentle-
man to the AC}, in which there was an -express ex-
'ception of times of war.
Lord Focits.roxi declared it to be his intention
to resist the • thriller progress of
_this Bill, et least
until the 111(14 Accounts shOuld be before the House,
and the ground Of hiS opposition was, that by the
Tapers upon the table, .the affairs of the Company.
appeared to be in a dilapidated state.
Mr. W. §miTii. 0)uld•not agree in. the position of
his Hon. Friend, that the Publc
ic should respon-
sible for the sums to: be borrowed under this
or. for.any other of the East India Compaity:s debts;,
and unless it should. be Understood from as explicit
protest, it Resolution of that House, that by sant-
tioning this measure, it did not make the Palk a
guarantee for the debts • to. be incurred under it by
the India Company, he could not' 'consent to' the'
_measure. , . .
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: TtIe'CHANPELLOR of the ExcupauEtt was stir-
prised that any doubts could be,entertained upon this
stihjea,' after the mOnner in which it had been,disr,
cussed on a tOrmet night. Undoubtedly by-passing
this Itill that House was no more bpUrld to guarantLe
the debts,cOntra:led pursuant to its provisions, than
it was b4,inrid 10 guarantee the debts of any private.
Company or Corporation authorised' by A(1 Of Kir-
liatnent to raise money tbr the purposes of its institu-
tion. Theponey, in thisiustance, was to be raisL.d
on the sole responsibility of the Company, to which
alone, and not to the Public, thelender was to look
for the repayMent Of the sums he advanced.
Mr.
Prmw,,s. and /Mr. W. SUITII severally ex-
plained.
Mr. Cttrevsx should support the ppposition of
his Noble Friend to the further progress of the Mea-
sure, unless be 4hOUld be given to understand that
the third reading would not be presied befiite the end
of next week, by which time he unOerstood, the
dia Papara- would be before the
Mr. GliiNT argued 'against the supposition that
the Public guaranteechhesc BondS, ict allowing them,
to be issued, .1-Te contended, that the excht,ive
ter of the.Eaq Jncaia Cotoao: ..vas.the only means
of preserving India to this C,Alittry. The contingen-
Cies on which a writ,: i;t; in in the Gompanl's pro
ins bad been promi.t the Publie, had been re-
tarded and, pl'ovent.,,i by a state of War. They had
bren calculiutid to aci:rue upon a'prospea of :Nmee.
Dr. LAWIttOIGE argued, that the ti..0.r.0f the even-
tual liability of Parliament arose from the want of
sufficient proofs of the validity of the ComPany'w
sesurity, which Parliantent was*l-A;und to aleertain
before•it shotildlive its san,::tott to the issue Of the
Bonds.

After some further explanation hetwe,em: Mr.
GRANT awl Dr. LA w RENCV) the Amendments' were
agree,cl .
IV. : inqiited that•time ‘should. be a110w...A
low...A- to. make .inrpiiry into the,solvency .of the
Colnpany, before any farther proceedingson the Bill.
Mr. DUNDAS had no objeaion to-a delay t,f a few
days for the prodiwt ion. of: the Atitounts now order-
ed, but he Wired a loud ripping up of the Com-
pany'4.olfairs Was intended:

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Sir JOIt N NIMEORT &lid, the enaa4ement entered
into with I) niti to o.ut3in the windfall. of the Par-
liament of that Giutstry to the C..iinpany!tt ntonopb-
ly, wereas•liir from" tieing- executed as the 'stipula-
tions entered int, here.

After same it!u explanalion between Mr.
Ctiectitty, Mr. GuANT, De: LAW 4nd Mr.
3Artirrattexu,, the Bill was orderett to I,C rO4 a third
time this (by