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London, England, 1831-02-22 00:00:00

good old abuses.
and port and prejuJ
all wish to embart
ich embarrassment of
Lt large. Such was
t it was always fbu
)vernment, of whoo
N'uble Earl proceeded

1 had talked of the he
lisposition to embarn
howsoever it might'
the Noble Earl b'
in odd one, when so ft
ision of Parliament hi
low was, and had rais
situation. The err
a men t with a great err,
se of those who thoug,
''ghly desirable to ma
tt
4'.1. But why 05
iis ? Ile by no ,n ea`
stain much injury
• The addition tonal.t
at he doubted if it al
in this country. ,i
time, been dimii•W
°
oduct of the very Or
sr
'as a breach of the tre
therefore, he cotild
ree and politics statj
• lie was not prep.an°.
of the new replaNO
Pas.
believed that the ,
istaken in suppming
of our trade with
i ro,
le revenue would V t
the twonext years, sir
,
Is persuaded that 0
e
'r
the general eommercs'
ke said that 0 t,
th our ancient ally'
2iiinsula. How he
with the Spani,b P°l
d, that if the Metbol,
no doubt that we she°,
ad done. The aue,ti.l
eaty of 1510 such an!
treaty as depriveiq
treaty we enjoyed? p
by the subsel",ee
eierred, and vve re
[tad before. Hoag it he
be
be best discussed sc/3
cape before then.
sunder of a treat), t
e
d been fully expo t,
the Woolsack. /',l!
must be recollectea `uP
rt of Portugal. It sed°lli
~:
ese expounder, sit„Dl
-;ood as that of the P,t4
he effect if both of t'ot
old have been allte nit
arose about the 01,
'hick he bad to rePreii,
Lord then stated t°o4.
intended to have
i'''
I to it, hut eau' tho
nfluenee so violentl)ti,e,
ly introduced ; amnia'
:o argue that the +,bitt
by a stipulation
The answer Via9'ir/
macy when he OW sots
nt and knowledge;;0111
:ted that such a Oint
iitted that it Was it.
t
Noble Viscount 00,
dished. This was suo,
yet this was the Ptv
h
>ld their LordsiP',,,,'
Iclied by its preseOt ;ttY
list, the vexatious 'id 0.
I complained of; sit for
yes on that subject'r,
s to the general nattiept
Issed when it caraetb
'ime, be vvould sat, bi•
it we were daiagid•
it be done without u'o:ei
.they pulitical or 01'. ill
he bad no objectioa;er
'elative to this 01,401,
n the Tagus, the
1p feeling the ill< 0
Ind if the Noble Si
must he taken art:bali
amented that it 'b
Earl or any ane el oOs
which British de
alt, t'
ad nothing to do jf
•ect to say that he had
lc article intradueco
He had tried, bet b
6,1
'ding what his IC();;
: had said respeet'u%g
he had said atit'i,,
the contrary, 115 c/
l
Lintance between ;a
iend had coname
ea
her secretaries, liviZji
ane—(A loud lia.grt'op
had been less If
I he retnernbere'ot- se
e—(A
s of West India
ent opinions of his
lot despair, if tbel
of
wring, in 1,951, rt,
ilia slavery and
vith Portugal• are
declared that he
.1 his views either
d
a sugar. A g
put and carriew
livision.

loi4t,
O.Ie.AQ ,e 5 emulated by every Nobleman in the empire—
h,..")--but must object even to his possessing the power
Of Ruminating whom he pleased for any borough.
itlr• O'CONNELL said he should move an adjourn-
etict of the House every night at a quarter past eleven.
14, HUNT said lie should woad
the motion. A
'"hy Alderman (Waithinan) had complained of long
being inflicted on the Hou-€.; now he (Mr.
Af,in) Was present the other evening when tbe Worthy
rn'"r, inflicted a speech that dro,e the whok House
°lit of the liouse.—(Great laughter.)
SUPPLY.
ALTHORP moved that the House resolve itself
0, Committee of Supp!y.
,n the motion being put from the Chair,
s
ail J. GRAHAM said, although unwilling to intrude
l„drii,"lhject of a private nature., he hoped the House would
I.4"ge hint for a fete ininute.—(lle:r, hear, hear.)-
14,1 t.,lluded to some extemporaneous o;,servations that
ti, tram him on a firmer right., when he used
Our "demagogue." Ho had been asked to expliin
tb,',11.1 he meant by that tin:). He was now able to state
41 when he made use of the word, it was not in
lie're4ee to the Hon. Member for Clarl.—(Hear, hear.)
not at. the lime aware that the Hon. Member
ia '4E4 behind him.—(Cries of bear.) Si) far he st.it,,d
LrdinAtitohmopliance with the wishes of his Noble ad
own rp. What he was about to add he did of his
aceurd, namely, that he did use the expression
reference to another Member of that House whom he
117" in his plane. And when he recollected that that
• 1\11'1111)er was not, at that moment present—when lie
t4t"lleet,d certain decl 'rations of his which ought to make
Bon, m,,,,ber no less ciutious in the language he em-
"Yed towarrls others than it ought to make every gentle-
cautious is the language they ernAoyed towards
thel'nore especially when he (Sir J. G.) recollected
6„; D"ition in which he stood with reference to his
„'"tYa Government, he frankly and freely confessed
as sorry that expression haul escaped from his lips.
tn"Lir. HART DAVIS understood the Hon. Baronet
hay stated nearly as much the ether evening, for a'ter
„"4ig used the word dent .gegue, he stated he should not
ft:itinue to use it, as it might give rise to unpleasant
but would use the term certain agitators.
O'CONNELL thought he might be permitted to
"e word. Il oned been most unexpectedly alluded to
j); the Hon. 80. Until lie hid heard what had
u't
fallen from him, he did not think that the Honour-
able
11;41 ernnet meant to use one word in reference to
- PPlanati,.n, he making an
thoaupght ology
the Honou to anotherrahle Bi, or offronet
-ring
,I
i) no right to allude to him. He (Mr. O'Con-
li Itd never used any language, either in that
"e or elsewhere, that he was not prepared, when
tall,l. .
„t upon as a Christian, to support. Trutk was
"!Y guide he bad. The Honourable Baronet had
*Ken of the situation in which lie (Mr. O'C.) stood with
I'l:Peet to his M,jesty's Government. He hid hoped to
111', arrived to-day at the time to have
turn--he should take especial scares to arrive early
n:uegh for it to-morrow, in order
.that he might
the Opportunity of stating most distinctly the situa-
t;" ni Which he really did stand with reference to the Go-
:i-nr,"ent, and which he did not think was rightly under-
" • In conclusion, as to the Hon. Baronet's thinking it
th!cea":jarY to explain to him, he certainly had not the le,st
p,c en to say any thing in reference to him (Mr.
onnell).

DUTIES ON COTTON.
jeje, lle, CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER begged
foN, before the Noble Marquis (Chacdos) opposite brought
,dalotrdtihis motion respecting the West Indian sugar duties,
eto_
to y.state the arrangements which Ministers ha I
tije'e) with respect to the duty on cotton. He had de-
sai,%n a former occa,ion to state those arrangements,
Manchester
the result of a conference with a ,teputtion of
ail cotton-manufacturers on the subject. He had
had that conference since he last addressed the House, and
01tri.eorne to a settlement quite satisfactory to these gent'e-
..re His plan was this :—He proposed to substitute for
duPt,. present 6 per cent. ad ralorem duty on printed calicoes,
With' °t of ld. per pound on all imports of raw cotton,
fro nut he
ntutstoy drawback export duty—exeer ing, of course,
operation of the tax, the cotton of our East Indian
aind Other4B possessions. He meant also, for reasons which
duty.')"' state on another occasion, to allow the drawback
gill operate for three months.
tow R. PEEL was understood to ask the Noble Lord
„," meant to make good the loss to the revenue from
the
reduction of duty on printed calicoes?
ths CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
heZnount of the East India duty was so trifling, as to
lists:l'ost beneath consideration. The amount of the other
es,orii‘._vould not make up the loss in question ; but the
pti4,_"‘t of that duty, together with that of the duty on
1'17: calicoes, would make it up.
tie he of CHANDOS was sorry to learn that
J'ancellor of the Exchequer had stated that it was
litii°'"ilde for him to extend any hope of relief to the West
U
inistiterest. He could assure the House that the dis-
tsyer:,
and
which that interest was now suffering was very
Opoott.,. that it was owing to the heavy duty imposed
r.taavin.s't sugar as a war tax, which ought to have been
rots, ° when the war ceased. He therefore now came
trS4rd to ask the Government publicly, to take the
sfreZvshgar duties into their consideration, with a view
ilrastd,
nig them. Such a measure might evidently be
lesser as it was quite clear to the must unreflecting ob-
Qaa the finance plan of Government fur the year
sf th•Yeet unformed.—(Hear.) He called on such Members
!testiose'erument as had formerly joined with him in ad_
he allult.he claims of the West India body to relief (and
71,t,Leiparticularly to the Vice-President of the Board
;.vese, an to consider what their former opinions had
etltie_a stand by them at present. The Right Hon.
",htstid`n n had said, that though he was no planter, he
'erest at all times he ready to support the West India in-
-snfl had then put it to the House whether the
4st hee"nduct of the Government on this question had
'.(2tekle_nc,oarked by a vacillation most injurious to the
'lt 1;141 interests of the country.—(Hear, hear.)—
reseeory called upon the Right Hun. Gentleman to
!lltes the pledge which he had given when out of
to ce'nr and to consider whether he ought not to join him
Itsrs. ing the Government to protect the West India
`llffice-:,
peThe Right Hon. Gentleman who now filled the
4116,1140 esident of the Board of Controul, had also voted
„ eh% sod°o this subject in the last Session of Parlia-
fial• "t4posies !j'aul been one of the minority of 144 who had
INS, Fil:09!( tlv'teetai3t: reduction of the sugar duties. Under these
w° 11. ne" he felt himself justified in calling upon these
LCTION. this 014 n
of I/ at om Gentlemen to assist hin, in relieving the
the report real To res ,nsta in,
declared Lord ye,,
0_ erect, and also the people of England, by ha
d, but that tnoso' Si eon of sugar duties. He was anxious to see the
e!, thoui n settled ; and won's' gladly support any plan
ivolous nor sl'l3
settlement of it, consistent with tire safety of the
2,T lON. l'insiiii.joo:ahn,d the well-being of the mother country. In con-
p the report Of tijNeyri'Vr
he is wov.ealled upon the House, as a boon to the West
dared the sitting
ti_llhouldule% to give its assent to the motion with which
„„s r .cal or
t, conclude namely —t` That the distressed comb-
ECTIOOfNth.e cogle',sl IrieTeat planters demands the serious and
erapmoit
the
sitdosos naideration of this House, with a view to their
lorries DeeriPg lk,r Sl • Dr,
oil 1,411 r. DOUGLAS seconded the motion.
ish .HoNISON was surprised at the mode in
as ordered £0 std
ti" th.
effect
,
ol:t(!lile Marquis had introduced this motion, for
return. ;op ~• re" r it, if carried, would be a stoppage of the sup-
tnted a pet° •1 Y
.e, t,,_ l,ad
Coo°" been no indisposition shown by the Go••
rnmon itse ° inquire into the ndition of the West India
it laws. , to' 'aro • • It
sots Iv o, would have been more suitable if the Nos le
Ls supported, o'sr. hi' dstre ' proposed at once a csmmittee of inquiry into
Smith, 3lt'ioteSt of the West India interests, or if he had put
tercel to ales mil pp into any
10 tins,,St le „_ td theother than its present shape, which
osis:nd4,,tn•-• The peo sof tstintend Government to meet it with opposition.
hs en that the e pursued on tins subject
He was gir'd $ 07,11 atestl- ''verrits
odoce ed it
t, I,nt was asst und course. If it had not
t to intr
.I.3ctsiS waters it the reduction of duty sought by the West India
I great bays if
ilvaiis because it had not seen any means of doing
• 0,14",110,iy, `i_l ad not acceded to the proposals made by the
ted praylog liiiiri!lr,,,ld`_.was because it found either that those
;ion frothy
mr, themselves,
be attended with beneficial results to the
son ro
.0 see or that, if those proposals were bene-
epleaonuters, they were injurious to the other in-
put a stop
er ptitiicie%,f; ntry. The Noble Marquis had only done
ed
ante, e es to en he said that he (Mr. P. Thomson) was
ing that di
sod Poo t,:tten, , Promote the West India interests. The only
• Duli° Dos° IScr n Lich uutween • •
in ticii ro, - the lis sentiments at present and at the time
wtition fr Tv
reo
e, hle Marquis alluded was this—that lie
iatnent.• the,et• stije"et sacrifice the interests of one class of his Ma-
gh their u"vva, e
-"t that to promote the interests of another. He
ft' 4Sie the Noble Marquis laboured under a mistake
e franchise ,of
the ereature he (Mr. P. Thomson) had supported him
he please.tlop4 kin estio'n, of Chacdos) in the motion which he made
ented pet, . pop ii for the Noble Marquis had divided in a smab
!lased that ,orb Of tuber.pr i'lewil,!e.h he (Mr. P . Thomson) was net a
eisbis
n the t, noc t'f tt opo,it• k'ur. P. Thomson) had divided in favour
an frocc° bill .11 f esN lun, which, though it was different from that
; avote DY ofittstif the s "le Mae •
Or the ,iorir 0 , still in favour of the reduction
let tire Ye!,';thoneor hst I.ttl to "gar. For that
ss, "" I r, st, at that t•
again, if proposition he should be
wt.], pa b'' 1.1 /00,, •,,1,, at ti w_
1::::rocbtYlo." thus's it could be carried into effect with-
.b the La tic'
Thee
,aO. breach of faith with the national cre-
end to lie(°,r, s*„ oft',
,rna nieeuv,7,ll ftl'edrlY 'tVat 0 hie Marquis ought, however, to recoi-
l! ti /be titne
ared his notrii° 01,4 ot he when he supported thatproposition,
roust
take the,,tir,) t knnw, to reduce any tax ; and the
/Her, 11' ,s eer, "tlitt'Shle it it recollected any thing that fell from
ussoo
olios cev so than an Individual as himself, that i.e preferred the
in en , nrf "ikl of the du •
the most tsodsst Of
rue du duties on several other articles to the re-
:olitical
t
Yon sugars. Besides, his Noble F,tiend

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