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London, England, 1836-09-24 00:00:00

selves to be peculiarly the farmers' friends, and who were
the first to say that they could suggest nothing for
their relief.—(Hear, and cheers.) Draw a comparison,
then, between the individuals ; one told you that it was im-
possible to afford the relief demanded ; and the other stated
that it was possible to render it, but nevertheless aban-
doned the position in a moment.—(Hear, bear, hear.)
A report had certainly been drawn up, based on the evi-
dence taken before the Committee by a valued friend
of his ; but although he could not agree with all that
was contained in it, it was nevertheless the duty of
those who had held out hopes to the people to prove that
the House of Commons could afford them relief ; but they
did not do so, and it was therefore right to argue that they
could not.—( Hear, hear.) There was, however, one im-
portant measure relating to them, which had passed in the
last session, and which bad been alluled to by his Hon.
Friend—he meant the Tithe Bill.—(Hear.) There might
be a difference of opinion as to what were likely to be its
results, but it was not yet in force, and, in his opinion, it
was calculated to do good to the country, and to the agri-
cultural interests.—(Hear, hear.) If he had not thought
so he would not have supported it. (Cheers.) There
were two other questions to which be would now allude ;
one of them was the Irish Municipal Corporation Bill.-•—•
(Hear, hear.) There were many present who knew what
the old English Corporations were ; but whatever might
have been the corruptions and the impropriety of conduct
of which they were guilty, they were nothing when com-
pared with the iniquity of the Irish Corporations.—(Hear,
hear, hear.) There had recently been in that room a
Meeting of those who called themselves Conservatives.
Now he was one of those • whose principle was to pre-
serve and maintain the Constitution, which in its pu-
rity, but not in its impurity, was the envy of the world.
—(Loud cheers.) Now, what was the state in which
the Irish Municipal Bill had left the House of Commons ?
It gave existence to all the Irish Corporations ; but what
was the course pursued respecting it by the Conservatives
of our institutions ? They said they would annihilate all
these Corporations, they were so impure.—(Hear.) Now,
was that Conservatism ? He thought it rather a stretch
of it ; but the truth of the matter was, that the Irish Mu-
nicipal Bill would, in its working, have given power to the
majority, whereas the old Corporations give it to the few.
—( Hear.) The change therefore, was not to be borne, as it
gave the franchise to those who 'had not before possessed
it. That was the simple reason 4 the opposition to it.—
(Hear, and cheers.) He was one of those who placed con-
fidence in the people, whether of England, Scotland, or
Ireland ; he could not say that any of them were aliens to
the others—.(Hear, hear.) No ; far be it fromihim to dare
to say to any portion of his fellow-countrymen that they
were aliens to him in blood, in manners, and in religion.—
(Loud cheers.) He remembered when certain great Ge-
nerals stated that it was necessary every man should come
forward and fight the battles of his country, and then
there was no distinction made between English and Irish ;
but when the question of civil rights came to be considered
then it was that these aliens in blood were discovered—
(Loud cheers)—and, unhappily, these opinions were sup-
ported by many, but he would do the leaders of the Op-
position in the House of Commons the justice to say that
they had -never attempted to justify those expressions.
They had been called on to do so, but they did not. He
now came to another question, on which there might be
some difference of opinion in that assembly. It was his
duty, however, to touch upon it : he alluded to the reform
of the House of Peers—(Loud cries of " Hear")—and he
must candidly confess that, under existing circumstances,
he was no advocate for reforming that branch of the Le-
gislature.—( Hear, and some disapprobation.) What were
the facts of the case ? Because some infatuated men
writhing under the loss of power which they had usurped,
attempted to regain it by such measures as had been adopted
by the House of Lords last session, was it on that account
that he, who was a preserver of the Constitution, should
do that which would amount to a change in that Constitu-
tion—(Hear)—and would he, when the greatest names in
England were on the side of Liberal Government, attempt
such a change ?—(Hear,and disapprobation.) Such a change
was a matter for the mature consideration of the whole
country, and should be well weighed before it was at-
tempted.--(Hear, hear, hear.) He was not an apologist
for the House of Lords. No one could reprobate the
course of conduct they had pursued more strongly than he
did.—( Loud cheers.) It had been unwise, improper, and un-
constitutional. But would they, therefore, advocate a
change in a moment in that branch of the Legislature ?
(Cries of " Yes.") He knew that the question was a de-
licate one to touch, but he was there to tell his opinions, and
he was at any time ready to resign the proud situation in
which they had placed him, as their Representative, when
they found a man who would act better for their interests.
—( No, no.) He considered that the conduct of the House
of Peors had placed their own order in jeopardy, for that
it was which had given rise to the discussion that was now
going on ; but he loved the Constitution, and he must be
aware that any measure must be for its benefit before he,
holding the important trust that had been confided to him,
would consent to it.—(Hear, hear.) There was another
measure to which he would now refer—the Irish Church
Bill, which was the question upon which the present Mi-
nistry came into office. It was in consequence of his at-
tachment to the Protestant religion, and his conviction that
the measure to which he alluded would be the only means
of preserving it in Ireland, that lie gave it his support, and
would continue to do so, in order to maintain the Esta-
blished Church in Ireland.—(Cheers.) Of thirteen 'Mem-
bers returned to Parliament by Somerset, eleven supported
Liberal opinions.—(Loud and continued cheers.) Let but
the people throughout the empire follow the example thus
set them, let them return eleven Liberal Members out of
every thirteen, and he would answer for it that it would
have the desired effect upon the infatuated men to whom
he had before alluded.—{Loud cheers.)
Mr. TYNTE then rose amidst loud applause. The Hon.
Gentleman remarked upon the usurpation of the govern-
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without altering the Constitution.--(Hear.)
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old and faithful servant of the county of Somerset, who bad
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always acted as their representative according to the ho-
nest dictates of his heart—he meant the health of their
Chairman.--(The toast was drunk amid loud cheers.)
their side, thesttrhoenng
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE, in returning thanks, said that his
purpose of conferring the greatest possible portion of pros-
Respecting the King,
he would say God bless him ; he was
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a lover of his country and the people, and he (Sir Thomas
Lethbridge) considered that he could no wrong.—(Cheers.)
The next part of the story was the House of Lords, which
was composed of a body of great respectability and
fanti-
quity, of men of birth, talent and education, men
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oldest fondly and the greatest worth—he meant p. pert .
(Cheers and laughter.) When, however, be said that
SA. were the qualifications of that body, he did not com-
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