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press the grounds on which he meant to give his vote
on this question, and to make some observations on the
speech of the lion. Member for the University of Dublin I
(Mr. Hemilion). While he considered the Church of
Eneland—to which he was proud to belong—was the
purest, and he splice it without intention to give offence
to any other religion, he could not but express his regret
at the state of that Church in Ireland, and the manner in
which it was supported. It was plain, he must say, that
Church formed but a very small portion of the people of
the country; and the House should recollect that they
were dealing with it as a national question. The ground
on which he could give his vote for the motion now be-
fore the House, was not that he expected that at that
kite period of the session it would be successful, but to
mark his sense of the question; at the same time, in
voting for the motion to go into Committee, he did not
pledge himself to vote for all those points in reference
to the state of the Established Church in Ireland which
the Honourable Member had referred to in introduc-
ing the question. Now, with reference to the
Church, he was bound to say that it had never been
the national Church of Ireland. They had seen the
conquest of Wales, and why did not those grievances
which afflicted Ireland prevail there? They had found
that with very few exceptions, the inhnbitants were not
handed over to the Normans as the Irish were; and the
consequence was, that although they were exposed to
great difficulties in Wales, they had peace and tran-
quillity in that country, notwithstanding it was, as he re-
marked, a conquered country. The difference between
the countries was, that the people of \Vales were left
their estates, while the Irish people were doomed to
have their estates divided among the Normans; and the
Governments of this country really thought no more of
the Irish, than they did of the natives when establishing
the colonies in America. The question seemed to bine
to be a great grievance requiring decided redress. The
point most desired in all churches was that she should
be the guardian and directress of the poor; but in Ire-
land the Church exercised no such kindly functions for
the benefit of the " mere Irish." Now while be gave
support to the motion, he differed from some of the
details which the Honourable and Gallant Member for
Middlesex announced his intention of moving eif they
went into Committee.—(Bear, hear.) Hdid
not think it necessary that a bishop should
have 4,000/ a year. Indeed, one of the best Bishops
of the Episcopal Church he ever knew had only 701. a
year.—(Hear, hear.) Fifteen hundred a year ought to
be the maximum allowance to each bishop. They were
hound to take steps to remedy the abuses which eii;v(l
in this respect—abuses which principally arose from the
fact of the Church in Ireland not being a national
church.
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JULY I

NEW HOUSES' OF PARLIAMENT,

Mr. PACKEpostponee his motion on the delay in
completing the new House of Commons till next session.
HARBOURS OF REFUGE.
On the motion of Mr. BRIGHT (in the absence of
Mr. Hume), the fallowing returns were ordered:—
Return of all sums voted for harbours of refuge since
the year 1844 and a statement of the money expended
upon Dover, Harwich, and Portland respectively: similar
return for Holyhead, distinguishing between the
sums expended upon the old and new harbours:
statement, showing under which department of Govern-
ment the several harbour works are being carried
out, and the sort of superintendence or control that is
exercised over them; copies of the authenticated plan (if
any) of the works to be executed at each of these places,
showing the extent to which it is proposed they should
be carried, and the estimated expense of each ; and of
the report of surveys, if any, or copy of plans, if any,
showing the progress made from time to time in the
works ; and showing also their present state ; the
amount already expended on each, and the amount to
be expended to complete the works as originally
planned. C )pies of the authority under which the
harbour department of the Admiralty was formed, and
of the letter of instructions, if any, which prescribed
its duties ; and of report of any Committee of Inquiry
as to the efficiency of that department, or of any report,
if any, recommending its reduction, together with any
documents or other evidence on which such report may
have been founded.