The Sun.
London, England, 1825-05-04 00:00:00

AO U.S;il:,o. -7.-' E 0 ItNi QNS .:

Mr. J. P. GRAN'r presented froip the whaltf-
ingers of Kingsto.upon.aull, against the pend:.ng Hull Duck
Bill: • " " •

annul:on:1;
coot: esu:crhew(ili:oi?lllePnriili:t.in::
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CORN LAWS: . .
Mr. BROUGHAM presented a petition from some' owner's
and occupiers of` lands in, the county of Durham, expressing
their great alarip at the numerous petitions that had:l3een trans-.
mitted:from all the;iz,reat mannfacturing,and, commercial hotlies
itt the ki„gdm a*iost the corn laws ; and praying that no in-
judiCionS or, hasty,.alteration may be adopted. "therein. The.
petitioners at the same time declared themselves hostile to auy.
unfair r. tractions upon any trade. And: if' they had, been
aware—as they werenot when this petition was subseribed,---of
the great uncertainty and indecision that . had. pteyaiJed'in. eonte,
lateannouneements 'on the subject ,of the corn lays ‘frotn,hici.
Majesty's_Alinisteri, he etas sure they would.. haye , addc,!i:l a
prayer, that whatever might be„the iritentipnit.of Govern moil
on this head, those intentiOns shopld, beinstab,tly and explicitly.
..
•promulgatetl. Nothing could be
,triore_ulifa.ir or, more i(leNpe_
dient than for any 11 on,. II entleman, to get up inthatiroloe and
say, " r will nbt.go. into this,question this year, 144.1 will
Session." Ile (Mi.. B.) felt assured that no matt, in, England;
could accurately know the value of his fafrn,. his stoc4, or his,
lands, so long as this most injurious uncertainty upon the laws..
affecting the price of' corn was .perroitied,to hang over, hisillead.*
Mr. Bitou.(4ll Alll presented a petition ' froM, tertain,inhA,
:bitants of Yeovil and its vicinity, prayjng that, now that there.
'was no kmger. any Pretender to the throne of these realms,' nor
any of the other grounds that once existed - for:the, exclu:::itin of
11;:j1 (e': uponts .s
utlijiieetcatbslie.n
their Roman Catholic brethreu of Great Britain •ancl irr,jaw
enjoyed' b y every i
o nsn
were
other descriptione verlr z:ll:ll,li:stni,tillousc,
from the rights and privileges erliOYed. by all °thfl: ch:ssekO
the community, the Parliament_ would remove the restra,inta
under which they had fbrmerly laboured, and- give to thm the'
same access to all the, benefits Of our Constiteititin which wm
havian:enr it-
otahfneethimeencetinnal:P:irt
this
Thesekittgleliiemt
it;
Mr. BRQUGI/lAPbci•gSglaeri:d(!mil)::::.3l')leeniriltsNoa.fptehteitliotriQufrso:otar,vee:..3i
toe provincial legislatures:
of the hie of :Iran. This petition was signed by every 011; -oi,
alastino°nw'atPuelnrtelti•nisgioriin otfhitilsi trade of - 111 A. ' . BUst
this their petition tO ,Parliament. 'l' hey stated that the' . be
of .these,
objectlieved at h
enirlelgNuv
provision was made in it for the pure lasing alkO, by Giovnii
sioners to be appointed, the rights of the Dtilte of Athol' eve;
respectable
—the
nIS tPaylk) °eucrl 11
a part of the revenue, customs, e.i.e• "c the island- l'lCiwtheS'
all the tights whatever of the Duke of A:h 1 "9
purchase
.o 1 eon-
, netted in, any way with the revenge or government of the We.
pexettietniodni‘el74olin,liyal)arta}i'leliel
ctlpiantiiitiiie,sspioonweer.rss.miot
he
empow.4,,i ,
of 1111 M, that were confirmed or let: to him by the Acf of
1765.;* being well convinced thaf ;toil th,„
neither
.should have been bought uP, from I" Graet's there eouhfhe•
in the: Committee'
domestic peace in,
ofnatiseieeldt.rciitifribrit,rttheerrwairteo-.1.
lsle of Alan. . the
• llTthr'.isnpnet(i)tito7no*ii•a.,st
;vliiketwtwisiie
Tnretadltecat nttlt, odrie,lcehrci.,drgtep b,eeprintesl.
1 _et order for
removing the pending Apothecaries' 'l3lll to' a V,Qllllniflce pp
stairs. . ...
111 r. lII' ME opposed'the motion,.
The SPEAREIt decidell that 't was perfectly competent
that
treit
taxriebrivrric-6114 I'ol:alike this went roue Into OPtgils
private CorruPilitec kip tairs v1):1(:::-116vYaeti.
no less conmetent for any lion.
•to discharge•that order; the.eirect of which wa-' to 'lt'in. g the
Bill, whatever were the-alteratiOn sOPTestet•ii
above stairs, before the Ilduse again, in exactly Y !lie same .1'1,40;
that it would'have stood in, had it never been MOVed-o'i.prerit.
to i Committee above. .. _
Al,
the poise, bCtwe.ol.Sirj:Ni;,..:
,Piiite,iil hcirt'
i‘irs.i.pc.ornovne.ArsANtTio,n n3oir..
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Killg,'S•(;ollegd, 4 berfigeliapel coti.l4 st4titt that, it 4(44 11:0'e-' •
terntitted,by them; to.c,ollfet no future Alegr.oo,•in ..tliettiLne-4nceof •
the candidates,fol, theta, 4;14 that each of these ..diptotr,O•f, WOCtid '-
il' f"'4trer ws' the Pat.; exactly. 461- 55,:•04. )1, and
.m.e. k.l,:tlrii'' ~
cromoy, -
:II r,,:kf I) •111li ~ w itla dr etY 4lis opposition, and tile onti...;:ws di; •, •
.
cnstr•gt..,d,as.4.•ordin.giy„.
. , •-• . • •
• of
The,,Bill, was: titers Ardored to bereferred to -a ' Gottunitztee
.. • .• . •
the whole: tionsemn. WAtitglay next-
On thtt•nkotion• or, I.or4,4._,.iiA.rulAToN, qie.cii,te Navig.a.,
Lion . Bill, ‘viwt•iend,ta AeoCtni.k4ime, - ' - :
11,1 r. ,I3Ai.'o; ick,'S,,preient a i petition: frtnn the, rectortind. t
churctivntd=ri -Of; *parish in.l.krkahires agaits7.. gra-ruing:day -
furgb i,4 concessions.lpi,the,R.ottiwk.,Cattiolies. -• • ' • .'".
1!11-. ill. A. 'I'A it'LOR presented a petition from the•corpo- :-:
ratiiw,ankr.initebttamt4 of DorteaSter, ..in. favourer' -t!ik conaV
CourtsiltilL r, ,
• .3.1 r..• KErisiN.l.4)Y presented .ai report of; the Committee O
the Salinon,Fiiiiesies Acks,,,--OrOttred to .be taken into con Side-. '
ration on:Friday, lite-19th Of .'lacy.. . ' -, - '
' C0R.,:4- (AW LS—
r4Hr..II USK IS.SO,N ;presented at petition from thernantific.;
turers of.:.ivezptliali•praying.for4 revision Of the t:ornl,a..;es,., •
• Colonel, GRA.tk.f. •presented a petition, as we understood, •
from ,I,:lgin, againot,any, alteration in the Corn Laws. ' • ...'. '
Viscount I.IIN-NftS.IIIORE presented .a petition f,rolit.Feentoyi, •
eounty.t3drk..; of a. similar nature., , ~.. . ..
31t,,-LINIVAy vtesented a petition frorn..Forfar. pra, ring;
fora red uctitirt :of .duties on articles. used inthe -linen mama-.
facture.: - . ,.. ... ..
Aldetmao 1,VQ01) moved fur a return of all.the peoalties le-_'.
vied tinder the provisions of the Spitalfieltis,act sinee'itS -enact,
nienil.stating by Whom they were recciVed, and liow.they. were,
disposed.4.-.-Ordered. •: _
CO3IBLNATION LAWS.:, ,
M F.,.. 51,. A • TAYLOR. presented a petition front the, s'eamen.
of the part of Sunderland,:pttlying to be. teard.betine tile (;ont'....
mittee•ott . the Conthination,.Lasv.,s,,for the purpo,sof.-slio,Wing
that :those, laws should ,not ,bete-enacted.--Referred to.thet;om'..--
Mittee- on ;tin...Combination. I awit.;.. . • . • . ; . • , ,
• Alderman ,Ni".ooD.presented a petition from the journeymen
brass..tounders.of London against a re-enaeratentT of the ('um..
bination La ws':.-,.-fteferred
,to .I he Committee. , '
Mr. I'.ARl'll'RlCrlll'' rose. 'to , present ..a petition. from :the
muster ,boot.and shoentak ers'of tit etown of Ninth:11111)ton, relative
to the Combination Laws ; but the prayer of which -was directly
the revere of thoprayerof the petition that :had just bean read.
The petitionerx complained,. strongly tit'. the' insubordination of
the workmen. . They stated that, some weeks age, many of.
the Workmen., Strtiek.,for an advante;of ,ivages. ..d' remained
unt of eruplOytnent'for live weeks. I'lle. masters then complier{ '
with their demand,: and all went. on satisfactotily fir a short
time. Since thatarrangentent,.however, the. joutouyinen had
struck :•for a further- adrasace. They had fottneti themselves
into clubsand societies.,-.tnade various" rules and regulations...,
and • exacted. ties front their fellow-workinen; if they tiiii nor:
comply, with .the.regulations so. fronted.: 'The petitioners tar.;
titer stated, that if they continued to comply, with the attreaa
f oonable! derriunds of the workmen tier a ii4e of wttgt,,,, thett
... must,, in the end, give up all their contrai.ts for the army and .
, navy.., Tliey prayed the House to take their-..ease into. seriou4 '
consideration. They.attributed their present situation to the
'!, repeal. of the Combination Laws...last year, and they:called on
the. 'louse to-relieve. theni from the grievances under .whicil
they now labdured,,,by: the adoption of efficient n.tistires. This
f.subject, he (Mr...Cartwright):observed, was tow under the con.
sitleration of a ComuiLtee;• The - °evasion was, however, ex:.
• tretncly,:pressing--dispatch : was necessary -and he thought
sonic/fling ought to be.done in the preier.t Session; .• He,..there..
fore,. Would ask the Right flon, Gentleman,-,iwbether it was iii
i his contemplation to pr.oPose any fuither m'edsure on this sub.
' jeet before the present Session had expired ?. ," ' •
;lir: lICSKIS'SON• Said, • the. Hon... Gentleman had asked
him, whether it wits intended to propose any measure this Ses:.
sicin. on a subjeet which he agreed with
_the 'Hon. :ViembeF ill,_-
servid the serious att2ntion'of the House—heilit,Rilt the present
. state of the country, with regard to the conduct of the work.
men, whose practices;, in forming. combinations, . were ettend..•
ins themselves to every. part .of the-kingdom. • The. Iforrse
were aware that :a Committee was Sitting up stairs, for the .
puritose of investigating the etfect,..produced by.the law of laSt .
Session. That Comnuttee was pursuing
.their labonis with
all- proper .vigilance, 'and...Would; he (misted, be in a situation
to make a report to the. House without the intervention' of any.
great_ delay.--;( Hear !)11e admitted, v;ith the, Hon. illember. •
that it was a
osubjeet:whiii pressed , fur de.eisitni. It. Was tint,
':. bis•wish, nor. that °fairy
,rientlentan orf.that C'ommittee, to .in.
terfere with:the:Meetings,. or., Coinbinalibris its they. werr cali:-.;,11
of these ,indiviViduals, so' far .as related 'to' the an-Mimi Of. ilitr '
own wages.. They Were at liberty_ to take:all all'-fit ,
secure. that remit neration ,fur, their labour' to Which..they
.cemr.
seised they-were 'enti7ecl—tionsi4eritig' the arctliMStances .•of,a.
greater, demand. for labour, or Et• gF.egteT expellee inetirr'id., 14 :
the_ .ptirchatie of provision-. 'Under tired-Mikan ees of 'this. tiattire„..
they miglitreasoriablY ask tkir larger waits,: bi.t.,„.thei,did licit,
stop,lier.e, . :They. coMbitted fbr pttrpOses,of" the trittit unjt..S.iii.,
ahle.ifeicription.-(il6tr!):2-:They combined to' dictifte is, tht rr
Masters the .ritotle in which they thould*Coinlttet .tlieti.'bUitter.a '
—they. ' corn bined to. 'dictate, whether' 'the, tai stir siapttli._
take an apprentice or mat ~= they Con-lined.. fin. the...pp;t:.,:•
pose. of. preventing Certain:- intrividuall' froth. - ivvi:k.ing,_-•
they cot-obit:tea .tei enforce toe twinciple ''that vi'air; should
be‘paid 'alike to every roan-' Whether 'he ,' were` a goodok ..w, ..
t'940.,0t .a *bad" one-061r, hear !.,...."..aind they- fe,iie,l; hca.Vy. ,
fines. on.thoie parti,e's ,who: .refu-s•e'ti , to agree to theta • echiditiOns: .
---(l.leaF,!),:,:.‘l7bat br, complAned lot, . op, the prt...of:a.,q .ein;
hovers l? as..well as oti..the por.of:tlicis4( %Oi ./ Fq...,#,Uti 13'g tit la..-f
hour, was, 'that:ilie pelions:thitS;c6imbnied:.'nfittynAlt.p,revente4 -
the et-110 oyer s. t-ro4tcEtt, ry ir.ig ..on th e it' Lila 450y0,4):40.4if,,i...i5c:i .
nice- but.tile-i.**OV-PAI '''.l(t‘ ill I;i' l';'''7l4 wi,-scc fi-ir',`,-,frcak
getting eMPloynient at .t.:11.,:-.-(tlear !)--, lie. beltrei.4 An; t' at tli,e,
Present tttom•cm .a greet .pl.t of,thetwoollqi in a n tif: 4, tti'ers wisp- •
standing, killi-on aeCount,of cjr•Annaiinnts.."of tl4'lietit.. 'l; ct*r
existed. ht. Lontitiki. -and he or:de:I:stood -.that tiipy b,ad,.s.F.:c4,
through var. tousparts of ate, country to aat eNt;rstiS..t,ej,Tr,2f.,.,,
—(dear, hear.!)-711esild 'not wish to resort to tltelt .c.:11141.&.
.. . , ~
tion.laW, or. to . ally..measnie that, Would Mit pve.sqF, 00ti4..,
, tion to the einPloYed'aitWell'ai'ti;eeritployer. ~'.lt•tit.. titT*ttol;,-..i -
. a bjy it ways necessary ;hat something should he ile,ile 1p retched v. '•
the existing evili The tyrittififtifinany.Would.-be appr'ettttatitt., - '
be allonted to be Worite thitntlie fyi:intiy of a fist .1 ab,il:lte'tillt,il '
say, • that the.contittet of those iviniVefit. tiptlicise cOMltittsatitifA'"
threatened .to destroy the'Peace and , yr ospill‘y-,Of theiVrlarititli
taring intere'sta.--( Hear; hear ! )-1- It: was Undititbeed) tillt..t;
remove those evilS; and lie Would, as Soon ai.pfiisitilec.endt a....~
vont' to do so,by StiggeStirig. -smite efficient niearfo;"fift' The I..ti► al'
protection' of the tita4ter and the 'Werkniiti-cHfar q-,' '' ^' '' • '
LOrd A ',THOR liE said, that in the: limerided:Ala*of last:
Session there was an'iMpertant omission. It ha Ail Vrevi'fqtffPftiMi
to define clearly tvliat'shotihl be the.nattire of illoObfeiits; field' - ..
cut either to toasters or to journeymen, that Witaltt *eftlitife 'the
parties who 'copeiiVed therpselreit .vgiit.veii to rii'so:iito.--- II e"
i believed the ina;ubbtilibation:of dip Wurkinen "tV•am. *nOti-Ob tined ' • .
to NorthaMptini. `'lt bail ettefitled td DtiVentryanii;llid'oll','
all over the country:: ' Seine aite ratioii shook!-'• be 'n'tiVie,ih" 'the
' law to secnrefrointlieeffeets. of threats,' thiise Wine user". Who . .
were watitiii• to labour, btit .1016 were pie-yea,.ir t'. 5h ittillierie
of which the preientlitit 'did hot take rOgniiift-ect- -' • ' "•': •
Mr. E. E1.,L10E.: said, that a report would dame down, in' •
'the course of a feW days, froM , the Conurtitteefiivtip Were in-'
vestigatingi this subject;••tbe sitggestion.'cohialned:ll-Whiett,- .•
would, no 'doubt,` have their dile weight withATIO lionse.';'Nh.; .• •
thing soUld'be more satisfaCtorythan"What had•fitlfe).l.-rianthe• -... ,
Right Ilontitirable Gentlehiart (Mr.. IlirSkissiii-tV''Wh'6,,bad.. ..•
stated; that-no intention existed to 're-en het' lite' -V,Artbirlati On ,
haws. lklnch -of' the Condi:l-et of tlioSe.peop/e Wale,' heilltiitial;' - -;•
perfectly unjustifiable : l'llie nouSe.'oeuglit; -holveret;/ tft'reCol.' .....,
feet the state•frOrn'Which tbey had' been'tio stithie'r,tYy,*relieved :,. • •
and if the SubjeClAVere fairly conaidered;it Oki& fiobtit tertifitt
eel that the alteration hail, in some inatsittces;verbated• gt Otit'iii> • • . .
convenieoCe,.behire a joist idea of ,all'the efecitt or ale /iei sysg•
tem could rbe firined. - He was happy to -find tVldt,it''wa•tint, ..
intended to call for the re...enactment of 'the combination raws.vi
and he hoped that tiehaferei fnestire..thight ,be'lprepoked,''theln•-;
interests of the workmen would he‘well weighyd gitt:prOteetftr4. . .
antic that - they would hilt,' 'ail :before, be 'exposEtVth 'tileoppqa- - -
siOn of the'rnstterS::--..•(llearr) '
I.)erieial I3.4):SCOYNE said he was not quite satisfied -. witiv
the ' - !if atim ent. Of the'lllghtjloir:fientletitan..- ' lEieftsalit Itb at iitir
t, intention of renewing 'the COMbiriation liar:it eYthfetii: .".. tctiv • _ .
:.Tei)itit6l ell.dri-,Cutt,diiWyel-rbi
~I.iotc;ll.ienliiii9,liiioup;.eotti. ,
41:,t11.-lxviatiiiinici.hs w.'
had ,/k..ll:',.'oli.ttrhn.otet*Tfwb:stehii4:7"eitgliiiti7.-/rsatvd:!7b. et7:intA, . .
ii)teiiiiiiti of the: Cdiliyitirtee•-tO:interfere witty tOties itd. h=+,! ••
saci.Ati6iis'Caltea ',tt liene*,Erocieti0.,* - -
, eieclie' a inncli'itreingerienshtiOn th an I '.'Al ere *...ftitetytietti
,or :the- COttibinit4en'ttaWar..-'4ltltnal of"-'1h..p-elitIon 4 t*liittr had, -;,:,<
tt
bebiiiipieselited.lo The -Hointe 4kiiiiiit the'. tkO:enitctorent 'orthir.
;4,y4,'irik. iiiiiirthie-ii 'lea 'that liatrifiltfklpY Tate lA..
•••- , .•. • ..t,t.r.,tr.nYvt ' --., ,!•• •• -' ''' k`• ' - ,•"- •• :

the Mere) combinations that had been spoken of, and they very
thiriy called upon the House not to visit the errors (to give
them the mildest title) of the few upon the many. Now, he
si ould ask, was it not justifiable, fair, and legal, if men
hought they were entiled to larger wages than they received,
unite together for the purpose of accomplishing their object ?
fait they not a right to assemble, in order that they might the
more effectually solicit an increase of wages, provided they
they committed no act of outrage or violence ?—(Hear !)—ln
his mind, they had a just right to express their opinions, and
therefore he was always opposed to the Combination Laws.—
Thirty years since, so unjust did he think the system, that
he brought in a Bill to prevent combinations amongst the mas-
ters. rn the town of Liverpool there was a body of ship-
ivrigh ts, blockmakers, rainmakers, &c. amounting t 012,000 per-
sons ' and he believed it was truly stated in their petition, that
they knew not a single instance amongst them which called for
the interference of that .House in the re-enactment of those laws.
It appeared that they were not to be re-enacted; but hiwould
stall on the Right Hon. Gentleman further to state, whether it
-was intended to restrain, limits alter, or to introduce laws that
-would operate in.any way on the funds of those benefit societies ?
Those funds were appropriated to the support of those who
subscribed to them in time of sickness ; and in many instances
they were appropriated to the purchase of tools for workmen,
whose-tools were not furnished by their employers, and whose
enances did not enable them to supply themselves. The Ship-
wrights' Society, at Liverpool, had existed for 33 years. They
were building alms-houses ; and. scarcely a member of that
society had applied for parochial relief. When so much good
Might be effected by such institutions, in the reduction of the'
poor's-rates, he trusted that due care would be taken not to in-
terfere with them unnecessarily.
Mr. MABERLY was sure that what fell from the Right
Hon. Gentleman Would be satisfactory to the House and to. the
public at large. Undoubtedly the working classes had -a right
to ask for wages in proportion as the price of provisions was en-
hanced, or as there was a greater demand for labour; but it
was equally true that they had no right to combine for the pur-
pose of dictating to an employer how he should select hii Work-
men, what number of apprentices he might employ, or whether
be might employ an apprentice at all: He understood that's
notice had been sent round to the manufacturers in Abeideen,
forbidding them to take any apprentices whatever. 'lf thihwere
Oat case, it was a most unjustifiable proceeding. It had nothing
to do with the rate of wages, but was a dictation. to the Master
as to the way. in which he was to conduct hisbusirieik.
Mr. G. PHILIPS said, it had been asserted that when the
Combination Laws were repealed; all combinetione would im-
- mecliately cease. He did not agree in that position; and, in
Pact. combinations seemed fo have increased since the repeal.
In that House, he conceived, language ought not to be used,
tending to encourage combination sen either side. Combina-
tion on both sides ought to be guarded againat as much es pos-
sible. The continuance of combination was, in his opinion,
much more 'likely on the part of the workmen than on that of
the masters. There was no motive for separation on the part
of the former, but the various interests of the latter presented
many motives for separation, With respect to what the Gal-
lant General-had said, he must observe, that-a- combination
had not long since existed in Liverpool, whereetcessive Vio-
lence of conduct was manifested.
General GASCOYNE, as we understood, said, that occurred
before the-repeal.
Mr. G. PHILIPS said, he cared not. Very disgraCeful acts
had been committed by some of those to whom the. Gallant Gen.
hail alluded.
Mr. HUM said, he believed what the House wanted-was
impartial information on this subject. They had as yet receiv-
ed tales from one party, and from one party only ; and he
would take upon himself to. say, that so far as the Committee
had gone, every inquiry tended to do away with the impression
which had been previously made on that House. No excesses
had been committed, except in Dublin, and there, instead of
twenty, only two lives were lost. He would leave Dublin out
of the question, and he would say that the evidence before the
Committee proved that the character of combination amongst
workmen was entirely changed. Instead of outrage and vio-
lence, peace arid order appeared in their proceedings. He
Wiehed to see the workmen act properly, and therefore he con
damned, in the stongest terms, their interference with appren-
tien. as being entirely contrary to the principle of freedom of
action which they themselves demanded, and which they had
gained. Much had been said about the combination of the men ;
but was a combination amongst them ever heard of, withoutthere
being- also a combination amongst the masters ? Would not
any landholder in that House, who was selling his wheat for
45e. a quarter, endeavour, if he could, to procure 50s. for
it' Nay, would he not keep his wheat back, if he thought
Its was thereby likely to get 90e. a quarter tor it ? Why, then,
skauld not the man who only received 2s. (id.. a-day keep back
if he thought by so doing that he could procure ss. 6d. a-day ?
Why should a different system be adopted with regard to these
two parties ? If a contrary doctrine were maintained, they
might introduce laws to raise the price of corn, and to lower the
rate of wages.—(Hear f)—On behalf of the workmen, he called
on the House to come to no hasty decision on alleged acts of
outrage and violence. If acts of violence had been committed,
let them be stated' before the. Committee, which hitherto had
rat been done. Let not these individuals, on mere assertion,
In deprived of that birth-right which they now enjoyed, and
which they ought to enjoy under the law.
Mr. G. PHILIPS, in explanation, said, that in consequence
of the repeal of those laws, great excesses had occurred. He
was an advocate for altering them ; but he was at the same
trine of opinion that the repeal of the laws would not put an
end to all combinations, and his opinion was correct. The
'Hon. Gentleman said, that no acts of violence had been com-
mitted. Need he remind him of what had taken place at
Glasgow ?
fir M. W. RIDLEY said he could not allow it to be assert-
ed that the Committee had uniformly arrived at that opinion
which the'Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) seemed to suppose they
entertained. He wished the labouring classes to get as much
as they could by fair and proper means. They had a right to
do so. He would not regulate labour either by a maximum or
* v;iaimum, It was fair that individual labour should have its
just reward ; but it was another thing if the workmen pro-
ceeded by threats and intimidation. It was a very different
matter, if they stepped out of their sphere, and compelled people
to work by such and such rules as they pleased. When they
adopted that system, it was high time for the House to inter-
fm.e,---(Hear !)—He did not wish to forestall the debates in
which his question must give rise, nor to state the evidence given
before the Committee; but he must observe that those wlinde-
mended a quick decision on this subject, ought to recollect that
it was- necessary to hear both sides.—(Hear, -bear !) It
-was necessary; after they had heard those who were complain-
. htg, that they should then hear the workmen in their own
behalf.. (Near; hear !)—With respect to what the gallant
- General had said, he would merely observe, that not a word
about regulating societies had occurred in the Committee. No
suggestion respecting friendly societies had been made there:
What the Cominittee might hereafter recommend, he could not
- say ;' but up te.ithi!l hour, nothing had been proposed for regu-
. friendly or other societies.
Lord A. -HAMILTON was surprised when gentlemen de-
s Oisredthat they had heard of no violence. One man was now at
the pointof death, in consequence of the beating he received from
• the coiliers.of Stirling, for no other reason but because he ven-
tured,, in his ownsright. to rake lower wages than the members
_ a the coMbination thought fit to accept. He could also state
anther instance, which had come to his knowledge this day.
(hie of the weavers of Glasgow bad been sentenced to a public
*sapling, and to transportation for life, for an attempt at as-
sassination. 'The Learned Judge before whom he was tried
- stated, drat if Lord .k;llenborougti's act had extended. to Scot-
land, he Should have been sentenced to death.. lie was a friend
to the workmen, and: he now spoke in behalf of that large body
of individuals, who had taken, or who were ready to take, less
wages than the sasociators- thought they should. He called
on the Mate and the Country to protect them in the right-_a
right: which • was :denied them by the combined .workmen—of
appreciatin" what their labour was worth. Hear !)—He was
not in the House when the Right Hon. Gentleman moved for
this Committee, and he had not made any observations on the
subject ; but he could not see what was going on in Stirlingshires
Renfrew-sir i re,and Lanarkshire, between two classes of workmen,
without feeling the necessity of adopting some measure for the
yestection of those who were now oppressed by their fellows. On
the principle that every man had a right to bring his labour to
the best market, he stood up in that House in defence of a class
of persons whO were not permitted to do soslaut were kept ha*
by threats and violence. On the very same principle which
Hon. Members advanced when titer demanded the repeal of
those laws, did Ito new call upon• them to protect this wronged
class of persons, who were not suffered to work because they
were willing to accept a smaller remuneration than those who
were combined together. The combination was not injurious to
the liberties tale large body of workmen, but was exceedingly
prejudicial to the interests of the masters, and of the country in

general.
Mr. A. BARING expressed his hope that his Right Hon.
Mend (Mr. Huskisson) would not give any answer to_ the
question which had been put to him; because at that moment
the inquiry on which any future proceeding would he, founded
was going on in the Committee. The measure of last year
passed through the Mouse with a very general feeling in its
favour. But, in his view of thvsubject, the mere crude simple
repeal of those laws, was •one of the mast mischievous
acts that the House ever agreed to. It would not now be so
...easy to place this question on a sound and proper footing as it
was last year. The immense alteration that had been at once
made would preveat this. The consequence of that alteration
was, that every description of trade had been dictated to in the
'lost arbitrary manner ; and, if proper measures were not
adopted---if this system' of combination were still -suffered to

extend—the consequence must be, that it would itself effectually
destroy the whole manufacturing interest of the country.
Captain MABERLY vnid a few .words, which were not au-
dible in the _ _

Mr. CAR7T WRIGHT then brought up the petition, which
was read, and laid upon the table.
Mr. ESTCOURT presented a petition from the Archdeacon
and Clergy of Berkshire, against any further concessions to the
Roman Catholics.

Lord ROBERT. SOMERSET presented a similar petition
from Lechlad e.

Mr. HUME presented a petition from the seamen of Stock-
ton-upon-Tees against any alteration in the Conibination Laws.
—Referred to the Committee.

Mr. HUME presented another petition from Robert Gour-
lay, stating, that as he understood there was a Bill now before
the House relative to emigration to Canada, and as he was in-
timately acquainted with the affairs of alit country, he prayed
to be examined before the Committee.

Mr. DENi%IAN presented a petition from the Corporation
of Nottingham, in favour of the Catholic Claims. .

Colonel-TRENCH took this opportunity of expressing his
intention to move for the insertion of a clause in the Freehold-
ers' Bill, giving to all persons holding freeholds in Ireland,
varying in value from 40s. to 101. per annum, the option of ex-
emption from the Grand Jury cases.
After a few words from air. R. MARTIN, the petition was
brought up. •
Lord ALTHORP presented a petition from the shoemakers
of Daventry, against the Combination Laws.
COUNTY COURTS' BILL.
On the motion-of Lord A LTHOU P, the House resolved itself
into a Committee on this Bill.

The Hon. Member then submitted a resolution, that certain
officers of the Courts of King's Bench, Common Pleas, and
Exchequer, should receive a compensation for the loss:which
they might sustain in consequence of the provisions of this act.
11fr. H U.ll E wished to know on.what evidence this resolution
was *Posed, the probable amount of the compensation, and
the fund from which it was sto-be provided.
LorcLA LT/1011P replied, but in so low a tone that it was
impossible to hear

. .
After a • short conversation-hatween Sergeant Onslow, Mr.
Tindal, Mr. Ileatlicote, Mr. Peel,- Mt. Bright, Mr. W. Smith,
the Attorney-General; and Mr. H u ski sso n -the resoltition was
agreed to. .•

-7The House then resumed, and the report was ordered to be
brought up to-morrow.

Mr. JONES presented a petition from the Corporation of
Caermarthen against any further concessions to the Roman
Catholics.

Mr: BRIUHT presented a petition from the Broad-silk
Weavers of Spitalfields, relative to the Combination Laws.—
Referred to the Committee.

Mr. BROWNIJOW presented a petition from Patrick
M'Collaghan, who bad been a Roman Catholic, but who, upon
hearing his parish priest, Father Coyle, lay down the doctrine,
that out of the pale of the Roman Catholic Church there could
be no salvation, :lie_ immediately became a Protestant! The
petitioner prayed that a remedy might be provided by the House.
for the .cv.ils he complained of.
The Report on the Resolutions agreed to last night with re-
spect to the Bonded Corn. was brought up.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the
Levant Company Act.
.31r. HUSKINSON said, that after the explanation which he
had formerly given on the subject, it was not, he apprehended,
now .necessary to enter further into it: He therefore moved,
that upon the relinquishment by the Levant Company of their
charter, it should be vested in the hands of his Majesty.
The House resumed, and the Report was ordered to be
brought up to-morrow.
The Arrest for Debts Bill was read a third time, and-passed.
The House resolved itself into a Committee on the Excise-
Acts. Several Resolutions were agreed to, the flouSe resumed,
the Report was received, and ordered to be taken into consi-
deration to-morrow. .

The Irish Exchequer Courts' Bill passed through a Corn=
mittee, arid the Report was ordered to he received to-morrow.
The Customs Acts Bill passed through a Committee, and the
Report was ordered to he received to-morrow.
DISSENTERS' 3IARRIAGES BILL.
The Report on the above Bill was brought up and agrecd
to, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time on Thurs-
day next.
The other Orders of the day were disposed of, and the Hot=
adjourned at HALF-PAST SEVEN O'CLOCK.

COURT OF APPEALS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, TursnAr, 1114ty 3.
DAYLEY v. MAUI.E.

Mr. SunDEN this day opened this appeal from an order of
the Lord Chancellor, annulling a sale made to the appellant of
some extensive iron works, on the ground of a trustee being an
indirect party in the purchase, thereby creating a personal in.
terest inconsistent with his duty to the certui que trusts. He
contended that the appellant was free from the imputation of
fraud, and was a most honourable MO.
Mr. KNIGHT followed on the same side. •
Mr. IlaitT was heard a considerable length on behalf of the
respondents, and was supported by Mr. COOPER.
Mr. SeGDEes having replied,
Lord GIFFORD stated the rule of law to be, that no trustee
could be allowed to deal with the trust-property, so as „to raise
in himself a personal interest inconsistent with the interest of
the cestui que trusts ; and that although the purchase might
have been made by Mr. Bayley at as large a price as could he
obtained, yet, connected as that purchase was with Mr. lie-
wellynait could not be sustained. Mr. Llewellyn had beep the.
manager of the iron-works which were the subject of theetale
in the lifetime of the late Mr. Hall, and had therefore ac-
quired a complete knowledge of the. property. Mr. Hall had
appointed him, with 31r. 31aule and Mr. Kay, trustees under his
will, induced, without doubt, by the hope that his correct irifor.
mation as to the nature and value of the works would make
him a desirable coadjutor. Mr. 3laule and Mr. Kay, the
former a respectable barrister and solicitor to the Treasury, and
the latter a solicitor of long standing, recently retired front the
profession, felt themselves very unequal to fixing a value upon
this property, and therefore, induced by the 'motive which in-
fluenced the testator in joining 3lr. Llewellyn with them in the
trust, they deferred to him to fix an upset price. Mr. Lle-
wellyn thereupon communicated to Mr. 31aule and Mr.
Kay, his co-trustees, that in his opinion the property ought not
to sell for a less sum than 55,0001. It was about this time that
a conversation took place between Mr. Llewellyn and 31r.
Bayley, between whom it was agreed that the latter should bid
63,0001. that Al r. Llewellyn should be a partner to the extent
of one-fourth part, and that 5 per cent. on the purchase
money should be debited to the concern in favour of Mr. Bay-
ley, before any profits should be divided ; that it was quite
obious an interest was created by Mr. Lldwellyn, adverse to his
duty as a trustee, "and it was his duty to obtain for the cestui
pie trusts as high a price as possible; his own personal in-
terest militated against that duty. This trustee then went to
the sale, interested in his own behalf, yet ostensibly to perform
his duty as a trustee. Was such a dealing as this to be tole-
rated in a trustee ?..-that he should communicate beforehand
to an intended purchaser, the price fixed upon, which gave him
an advantageover the other bidders. The sale was held, and there
Mr. Bayley became the purchaser at 72,0001. The same evening
Mr. Llewellyn derives from Mr. Bayley the sum of 1,5001. It
did appear to him that ifthe rule could not be applied in this case.,
it could not be applied to any other case; that with regard to
the objection to the mode of proceeding adopted in the Court of
Chancery in this case, he would observe that Lord Northington
had set aside a purchase upon a motion.of mush slighter grounds
than those of this casej..-flut Mr. Bayley could not anplain
of this mode of proceeding, as it had given him an opportunity of
being' heard by affidavit, which, had a bill been filed, he would
not have had the benefit of Mr. Thompson having imme-
diately after the sale given an advance of 7,0001., on one quar-
ter, and 1,5001. having been paid to Sir. Llewellyn, the Chan-
cellor could not hesitate in 'setting aside the sale; that 31 r. Bay.
ley must account for the profits of this concern, into the poasea.
slots of which be ought never to have been placed. The order
had reserved to Mr. Bayley. any remedy lie might have against
Mr.: Llewellyn
.for 1,500!.; this decision did not affect; there-
fore,upon the whole of the case he was of opinion that the Lord
Chancellor was correct in the whole of the o=dor: however, he
should-not make any motion to their Lordships ' until a Noble
and Learned Lord, of much greater experience, had addressed
their Lordships.
Lord REDESDALE said, that it had been objected to in this
case that It had been decided in too 51111mi:try a manner; but he
thought not more so than was customary,in casses : he
instanced thecase of " Gower a. Gower,' wherein it appeared
that Lord Gower ivas likely to sustain a serious injury from a
.person whom he sent to survey his estates having been bribed
4y.the tenantry to . • le a return of a less quantity of acres
than there really was; in that case the fraud being palpa-
ble, Lord Northampton felt no hesitation in annulling the
contract. This was the course adopted in the Courts of
Exche9uer, and all courts of eiiuitY ; and never till this
day did lie hear the propriety of it questioned. It was of
great importance, and required to be decided either
. way instanter. No disadvantage could arise to the appellant
from it, as it was on his .on affidavit the matter was decided as
to the return of 1,5001. which the appellant gave to Llewellyn.
He.cduld not give an order to have it returned, nor did he think
that a court Gnaw would give it to him, fur there was reason to
doubt the honesty of his motives giving that sum. When Lord
Bacon was accused of receiving moneyfrom parties in whosefavon r
he made decieionse he mid that ltd alwaysdecided according to his
judgnient,uninthtedted by any mbney he received. Allowing it to.

be so, the prinCiple of receiving bribes at all was wrong. Tie (Lerd
Redestia/e) could •not but consider that it operated prejudicially
on the tithul. • . Mr.. Llewellyn saw that this property was
worth 63,000/:, yet he agreed with the other trustees to sellit
for 55,000/. He ought to hare informed his co-trustees what lie
considered its real value. Ile ( Lord It edesdale) thought it impos-
sible to separate Bayley from Llewellyn • if there was no
other reason but the simple gift of 1,5001. he should consider
it a sufficient cause of setting the contract aside. A Noble Lord
in his eye (the Marquis of -Thornond) knew of many in-
-. Stances on the other. side of the water, where agents were in
the habit of receiving bribes from tenants on the renewal of
leases. When such cases came before him (Lord Redes-
dale), when Chancellor of. Ireland, he always annulled such
leases, on
,account of the absence of that good faith on
both sides which he deemed • necessary in equity for the
validity of the contracts. As to the custom in '-etange-alley
—cheat who cheat can—it was not to be held out as a model
in equity-cases. With respect to the interest-money claimed,
the appellant was at liberty to take up the money as soon as
order was made ; if he declined doing so, he could not seek
redress. for.lis own ladies. In the case of " Ward v. Ward,"
it; years ago, the Court said, in giving judgment, that when
it took on itself the protection of property, it was bound to see
it properly disposed of. With respect to the principle involved
in the case before their Lordships, be thought that both trustees
and agents ought to be watched with the must cautious jealousy,
that they had no advantage inthe disposal of
property confided
to their care. His Lordship concluded that the decree be con-
firmed, which was accordingly agreed to.