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London, England, 1831-10-07 00:00:00

previously bestowed upon the plan, was never yet k
.at,urs
trite by
ttihoetttfaitnii,siltiaanrdlLugt aapllt
tehxeamsptinedydabnudilndninndanehorsv:tw,.tig
which,
supply every want, or to provide all the accommondhe to
which in the subsequent occupation of it were fou d
(I."'latetril°l:
Bench, and " hear, hear," from Earl Gael%) p
he
Nob'e Eal desires it, I will read the whole. I.4.°Y'..ieri
used to remark, that however fine to look at a regubeal.)r.teabie
bne...(a'eustsiafnlin—s (itHies_ar.(),,lGno'ilninn,ogtoproonc,e”edfrowmiththtehemmisif
the
might be, no house was so commodious and so..
hear,
as one which was built from time to time--gled
cheers
from the Opposition benches)--piecemeJl—(l-•°%
LOr
the Opposition)—" and without any
from the Opposition.)" Aye, 4, piecemeal,'
°beer
fro
not hit by bit, but 4, piecemeal"—(Renewed
(Hear, hear.) While we are in the quart bottle to.ge,'`ite,
the Noble Lord will not nibble at my " bit by b: on.
form, but will nibble at his " piecemeal," confess After I
not see much to choose between the two expressions.
,`,l,bie
having thus described the opinions of Mr. Fox, the so
0
Earl zaddeh, " To those principles of practical Re 001:fied
wisely enforced by that great Statesman, I am tleter__°,biele
to adhere." So that there is a promise, my p
if performed, has, as I suppose the Noble Earl tl
has now performed it, produced the measure befioirvl;uairt
(Hear, hear.) All I say of er this is, that an ind t alms,
so little importance as myself, if he has not arrived
,oenbe
Frame degree of judgment as the Noble Lord, In Ytoo thog
Justified in doubting whether the pronaise to fulfilled'/adher
principles of Mr. Fox has been completely .e est°
reg,ular deslgeater,
(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lords opposite who desiroc.bt,
go int m this question, state that the only question
note
sere us is pea
, whether we will adopt Reform or. u°,
think that what we hare heard to-night ought 71to
aerially to modify that proposition. They ° ustbst
go into a Committee on this Bill. They do M't '4,', will
they will not admit amendments to it, but that, tb„lie "1.
nut admit amendments th at will touch the princlrgeso,
the Bid—that they are the principles liefrrnble a!is
rally—a Reform which they at least think v-u°,,
is efficient and extensive. How are we t° au°ol-,,rking
call, if we are not ready to pass this Bill with° dopvn the
alterations in it, if we are not ready to break
and by
whole system of representation at one fell sw°°P.' e in
the provisions of this short Bill? There VA:this, t`,lr
going into Committee if we are not ready 7, will,
t°
going into Committee under such circumstance ; country'
the result, occasion illuminations throughout ,U%nd then
—(Hear,, from
drive
try
atW
oatt ,pt_.
itsei.l)nam i
pass it,
lieureatiena:rfsr. think
afoi antt
.mahnks,teo:ht
~tautAefhterylevae:
itnconi,snif,yiss whenotdet,usiert'uroi'i'airileiPts
e,.ble°a,',,e'etirnesnmltietlesiMibasi
to that
,115.,ted;adt,'1:5
:her dt
at,tOgee
shall pass the Bill as it is; and then, when theY,fitritiee el e3'
) I
ny
sure, they will }mink that we have broken our Frio then:
tau
that
en:hlv la
vn:el,eic aktsisiianotftmhoi;:ifnenlilloo:nvi-esiru boi,,e,ll:ltt;tivat/ieubeeh;
htport it.thatlt they
tlisdhote,ilndt dteiriiinvek
do not
gtirieeayt b ewneerfie7c;firi:ledl:;:i.:
Earl, for 1 ant folly convinced of his sinceritYl :01:
lieve that there are those in every part of the c 0 leis
he
support this measure, and who address the Pe4rtiatiiiy
position of this measure, and who assist in suite die
:1,
delusion)-1 say, my Lords, that if I did not
e'01",.;
measure would involve them in great diffieulti
tress, such as have now reduced almost to sl"tiv.iestrt,
emancipated people of Paris and Brussels--.414°,..t t tl'j
lieve this, but thought that it could be a ben,' °t/,,
there is no suet ifice I would not make, hardlY
ca
would not run, even to the extent of two tbst
gratify Iliezn.—( Hear, hear.) I have been 01'4 j hal%
knew their secrets I should think as they did,"U 'w,„
different opinion from that which I now preft°'o, o'
now that this Bill has proceeded so far,
sure that we have a knowledge of all their 'onip
1"
Whethee the matter is a mystery or not I COO,:
the 11).,, col:
but if I had heard all, I rather think I 811"Ulii„ tba e,
-
the opinion which I now state. I will onlY Tiere'rif
they had condescended to lay their information I'ethat
Beringap proactilieedg :tes ti withoutn
n _dne I atyi
anal to ask my opinion, 1 should have told theru,,bauldrsl
was a great question, the consideration of whielli•uistet';
benches)—but that, as they should lose no time it 0°
great and full of danger and peril—so they shau; raot°'
time in getting information, practical local i"'°'d
with respect to every one of these great towns °roost;
ties, the representative principle of which theYOP4 is,
to change, and so to arrange the constituent bt
Tim
promote in the greatest degree the public inter's: 014,
is the advice I should have given them.
should say, say, " You should consider it without del3Yl
not with haste, for to act with haste is rashness. :f
tf
think, my Lords, that Reform,• scat;
the feverish ;00)•,,
citernent in which the revolutions around us Ilavf," is
us, cannot be considered with that calmness ttrlue; 0"c"
cessary. I should therefore say to them,---bef°rle at:rile/
I do not know whether they would have attend.e:'
—" Sed motor prmstat componere guctus• oiro
perhaps not—their old habits, a spirit of restlessness,. el
have induced them to be deaf to my
done, " to ride the whirlwind," end be
U ggeStiOriSt; 100,
011[11,11CLIteirlose 00
spirit might have directed them, as indeed it seetusd by tl;)
l e
storm."—(Cheers and laughter.) The Noble coiore,
his colleagues seem in truth to have adopted this
" Eurum ad se Zephyrumque vacant :" con,
But when they called it, they did not see° ,tjl,l
that they could not send it hack to its cavern Aftevolght
did they reflect that when they wanted a breekl ivoied;oer
get a hurricane, and that when they bad fatallYiepout
hurricane, and made the tempest fearfully I'OT p 1
ears, they would not longer obey them, thong° sSy'e
the creatures of their own connivances. t rj•ro '
were the creatures of their contr. "o 13°
vi"c
contrivances, 4,"
that they are so through their evil intention' b.O; tPte,
designs, for I acquit them of all such ; but I t't' Ode
have acted as improvident men, and as end-1°1,15;61:0i
of conducting themselves with that cautious I"'
which ought to have been expected from thecul 000/ of
that they have talent enough to overturn r„ seog'
Oh ! that they had but a f of
few grains
common firmness, of common calmness,--mY °-iategf
lation is that I cannot add to this list comm,°D,
If they have the temper which, notwithstallu'utes)',y
u—est(iConheaests
cf.rom
cent declarations, I hope they do possess, I 11°Ped 00;1;i
considered the situation in which they stand' ecifjc d
will not render that situation more desperate stl ,
directe
for it is at present as unwise as it is Mittg,er°lbel,
should happen that you should reject the Bib, -„° °I;ol
all the parts of it are objectionable, but be°ol°-iee'st°o'
dercd as a whole, you canna go into the esa of tbe eair
any part of it with the chance of getting °ht -diorefs
urination without creating confusion alld hottlj
went to the wishes of the people, vi„l")br l°l9ssol
consent to make that examination? eteose •VI
vitae this difficulty by bringing for .501 el
of the question which are the most Preis, 0001'
opposeabandrentiiiiegint;heb
erest.
mustli theresy6tutibl will dporettehnicsel
voiftalotiobt
ing, in one measure, of this bulk and 11', 'le did
general principle's of this Bill and all its IMlre-°thiP 051
I would not oppose them if, instead of saYld
would stand or fall by this measure, they W,°° their 1•31,1e1'e41
if this measure was rejected they would aPPir r &Oh 101
to produce one of a more cautious and bette, nouedesl/,'
kind. The Noble Marquis who amused to '-reatlY
night by his eloquent and ingenious speech gad 1 a„,itbe
pointed my expectations. I knew his talents/0 401; eeet
for some time, expecting from him some e,P050 us,°.fleso'
reasons for which the Government ca ll& i tort ye
blow to alter the whole of the Constitution• 11ect teeereb
from the most luminous speech I ever ree°o the )tae
heard within the wall of this House---I Tze3,,t.vo'bY,l el;
of the Noble Earl near me (the Earl of f
most convincing reasons against the adoPt'°"t:at he f,are
sure ; and when time Noble Marquis told o'
he 001'
take the different parts of the speech of ti o°,l,
and putting them together in a different °rued vaei. 011:
the best speech that lie had ever delivered, of, bear VI jie
it in favour of this Bill, I was anxious ~,sult. tVej
proposed to tin so, and what would be `her i!obieet Pl_de
wish to have my mind informed upon ,0:/ de/ os;
to the haalsre,,,
to keep my mind urn to conviction Noble n
manner proposed by the Noble Marquis ;
ment. But though the speech of the
col
was eloquent, it did not appear to me that
,htbetigh of
ilye,
part of the speech of time Noble Earl; ar'a..,,oo,eut (Jo
in,eotetilnokiirtk.
he had the power to refute every "e other se's
Noble Earl's speech, for some re coldly t.
ye V
I , belietioe
was half seas over—(Hear, hear)—before
ov
.); coo!
rous landsmen had quietly dropped dowx..i.elitege t t
able moorings at St. Helen's.—(Hear.) 1,11_5 vet °_
edriline
f
is not the first time this Government. ",.e'ssnte,_„A
(Laughter.) He proposed to embark in, iic'`h stir,
hark—the same frail Admiralty barge, se,ut ut tot horse"'
capsized in the first expedition in whiclui toito
which seems to have been in such a co 'ltti_tratierroo,lo.4l
deemed necessary to put time wholes,elmtm° e I ,
allobpleerilesulr:aiseigationls_e neotiverro
as ballast to balance the vessel.---( r, hea.rwill nil.
e.{,
they will cling to this vessel till it sinks tsth,a, tbe), 0,0
op
and. by their very adhesion Will hasten it
it :eesei
cling to it till it looks not like the fl°,Yead oat
State—till it shows not 'the Royal Stand% for age
ectt
the homage of mankind and been p