The Sun.
London, England, 1849-09-14 00:00:00

LONDON, FR I: DA .Y EVENING, SEPTEMBER 14 1849

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
DONCASTER RACES.
DONCASTER, WEDNESDAY NIGHT.---Tho rain fell so
heavily during the whole of the races, that in order to
save the last train we were under the necessity of dis-
patching our parcel without the betting and the remarks
on the St. Legg, and trust to the electric telegraph to
supply a raurn of the last two races. We now give
such particulars as are requisite to complete our account
of the day's racing, &c.
THE ST. LEGER.

CHOLERA AND DIARRHEA.
RETURN OF CASES, SErr. 13.
THE METROPOLIS.
SUPERINTENDING REGISTRAR'S DISTRICT.
Deaths.
Attacks. Cholera. Diarrh
WEST DISTRICTS.

- 4 1
- 3 1
2 0
- 5 0
- 5 0
0 0

Kensington ...
Chelsea... ..•
St. George, Hanover-square ...
Westminster ... •••
St. Martin-in-the-Fields ..•
St. James, Westminster ... -
NORTH DISTRICTS.

BETTING AT STARTING.II97O 4 on Flying Dutchman
(taken freely)-15 to 1 agst Vatican-15 to 1 :agst
Nunnykirk-100 to 6 agst Old Dan Tucker-20 to 1
agst Thringarth-35 to 1 agst Herbert—and 40 to 1
agst any other.
After a delay of three or four minutes, arising from
Honeycomb and Elthiron having broken away, a good
start was effected, Saucy Dick taking the lead, followed
by Herbert and Vatican, Old Dan Tucker and Thrin-
garth next, and in the rear Nunnykirk, Honeycomb, the
Flying Dutchman, and Elthiron. The latter got into
the ruck before they were over the gravel road, at the
hill was fifth, and at the mile-post was in advance of Old
Dan Tucker. Saucy Dick and Herbert maintained their
positions to the Red-house turn, where they were
beaten, the running being taken up by Vatican, the
Dutchman waiting on him. At the distance the latter
deprived Vatican of his lead, was clear of him at the
Stand, and won in a canter by two lengths, amidst
cheering loud and prolonged, from all parts of the
course. Nunnykirk drew towards the leading horses at
the turn, caught Vatican at the distance, and beat him
for the second place by two lengths; Honeycomb, who
came at the last, finishing a bad fourth. Elthiron was
fifth, and Old Dan Tucker sixth. Run in 3 min. 20 secs.
This is the third St. Leger Lord Eglinton has carried
off, his previous successes having been with Blue Bon-
net in 1842, and with Van Tromp, half-brother of the
Flying Dutchman, in 1847. This stake and the Derby
has been won three times by the same horse, Surplice
having won both last year, and Champion in 1800;
Marlow alone has had the good fortune to ride the win-
ner in both races. The issue of the races is all against
the fielders, for which reason there is not much to fear
for the settling. Lord Eglinton's friends are " good
winners," but the Noble Lord himself had only one bet
on the race, having taken 60 to 5 that his horses were
first and second.
BETTING ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
GREAT YORKSHIRE STAKES.

Marylebone ...
Hampstead ...
St. Pancras ...
Islington ...
Hackney ...

CENTRAL DISTRICTS.

St. Giles ...
Strand ...
Holborn Union
Cleritenwell
St. Luke ...
East London ...
West London
City of London

7 to 2 agst Mrs. Taft
9 to 2 agst Fernhill
10 to 1 egs
CESARI
1 agat Essedarius
1 agst St. Rosalie' -
1 agst Vatican -

I sto I agat Thringarth
5 to 1 agst Paalmainger
it any other.
SWITCH.
130 to I apt Glen Saddel
33 to 1 apt Fire •eater
40 to 1 agst Volcano (t)

12 to
16 to
18 to

25 to 1 asst Bon-mot

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FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF Tills DAY.
TEdES—There is a very old and very general two prosecutors, and in establishing which, as it
consisted,appears
opinion that a holyday ought to be a helyday. A task to us, they were not equally successful.
spoils a vacation almost as much
.as a dead fly dues the part, of loose statements of opinion, on whichit in
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apothecary's ointment. There is a time for all things— possible for the Court to aetwithout manifest simpropriety.eiinc
a time for business and a time for recreation; and though One officer thought Captain Pitman "inconsistent a
we have lately been remarking upon the general deser- severe." Another considered him "strict." A third en'.
tion of posts under the present calamity, that was be- tertained no opinion on the subject. The practice of
cause the present calamity would not wait for the meet- ornamenting the heads of the ship's boys with a copper
ing of Parliament, or the re-assemblage of her Majesty's funnel, by way of an imitation of a foolscap—a favourite
Ministers, Mr. Disraeli, however, happily for his coin- mode of correction with Captain Pitman—does not seem
fort and health, is not a Minister, and may take a bolydsy to call for any severe punishment. The heavy wooden
without harm to a metropolis or a nation. Possessed of clog sometimes substituted—which we hesitate whether
this blessed immunity, we think he has done wrong in to pronounce a plagiarism from the Chinese, or an adap-
rushing into politics so soon as the 12th of September. tation from the ingenious Jeffrey Gambado—must have
There has only just been a fortnight's partridge been, if less ignominious, far more uncomfortable.
shooting, and it wants another fortnight for Of the specific instances alleged, one or two will not bear
pheasants. Everybody who can is availing him- a close examination. White, a private of Marines, being
self of the advice tendered to nervous people found dirty at quarters, was sent forward to scrub him-
by a kind hearted contemporary, end enjoy- self. Mr. Elliott says that he heard Captain Pitman
ing the seashore or the down. Such is the stagnation threaten him (White) with a flogging. This the accused
of affairs that but for Mrs. Manning the cholera, or denies. Be this as it may. White walked forward under
Lola Mentes, aed Captain Pitman, we should almost the charge of one cf his comrades, disappeared for a
(1, spair of filling our columns with readable matter. All moment under a sail, and directly afterwards was found
at once silence is broken by a long Parliamentary speech to have jumped, or fallen, overboard. He was seen
from Mr. Disraeli to a table of Beekinghemshire ari- to strike out, as if swimming, arid a boat was lowered
culturists. Parliamentary we call it because it is nothing tea pick him up, but without success. White had
else, and because it gives the history of a debate, pro- been heard to say that rather than be flogged ho
mews a seven years agita•ion, and is all about rates str,d would drown himself, and it was surmised that he
statistics. Otherwise it is neither one thin' nor another; had jumped overboard to avoid the threatened four
a task dune in a holiday, and rather a dull performance; dozen. Whether he had really done so or not, had ob-
for all work and no play makes even Ben a dull boy. ciously no bearing on the case; the question was, whether
The truth is that the Hon. Member for Buckingham- the punishment was really threatened, and whether, if
shire was evidently labouring under a difficulty, and so, the act of threatening it was an act of cruelty aid
could not hit the right tone. '[hut morning he had been oppression. The same , bservation applies to the case
assisting at a ploughing match, at the distribution of of the marine Haig. Haig was flogged, as Captain Pit.
pre i, and at what is called the ordinary business of the man says, for repeated thefts, and was afterwards legit
society. Then there came an excellent 2 o'clock dinner pro. on the gratings, and made to sleep under the forecastle.
vided by Mrs. Bennett, to which SO gentlemen sat down in Haig had fractured his skull some years before—a cir-
a room at the George. The " dinner" was followed by the can stance of which the captain saga he knew nothing
usual loyal and routine toast:, and by the time the author until the punishment was over. He afterwards went mad.
of " Coningsbe" had stood enough, eaten enough, seen Whether his derangement was in any degree attributable
enough, and heard enough to give him a premonitory to his punishment whilst on board the Childers does not
sensation of the prevailing epidemic, he found himself appear—nor is it necessary that it should; all that the
suddenly called on to speak. The result is natural Court had to decide was, whether the punishment was ex-
enough. He was never less equal to himself. The cessive in proportion to the offence. Other cases of alleged
whole speech exhibits prostration and collapse.
It is cruelty, on which the prosecutors rely (one of which
slipshod, incoherent, fallacious, and even a One —that of the boy Cleverton—reminds us, it must be
perceives that Mr. Disraeli, like everybody else, wants a owned, disagreeably of certain distiches in Crabbe's
distinguished audience, an accomplished reader, and a " Peter Grimes"), show pretty clearly that Captain
vigilant antagonist to keep him up to his mark. Pitman was a man of warm, if not violent temper, and,
O'Connell had two languages—one for the mob, and to use the mildest term, a severe disciplinarian; but they
another for the House ; so has Cobden; so has Mr. are not, in our judgment, so carefully sifted as to war-
Disraeli, and almost everybody else. The eighty gen- rant us in saying that they prove anything more. Cap-
tlemen at the George were prepared to take for gospel tain Pitman, dismissed from the service, is of course a
everything their Member chose to say; and, under the ruined man. Whether the evideuce was sufficient to
circumstances, it Was but natural he should address warrant so severe a sentence may perhaps appear gees-
himself to their docile capacity. Mr. Disraeli attempts tionable to such of our non-professional readers as are
to ring a new change on the old watchword of his party, inclined to think more of the hardship to the individual,
which he now explains to mean everything or nothing. and less of the exigencies of the service, than the judges
" I remember that this society was originally formed, in of a court-martial. But, be this as it may, we cannot
the first place, for the protection of agriculture ; and, refrain from observing that the prosecutors have failed
although politics are very properly excluded from to establish a single act of oppression or cruelty towards
our meetings, I hope I am not departing from the themselves individually, and that they return to Exeter
rules when I say that it was for the protection of gaol without having produced any justification whatever
for
agriculture, whether from extreme and unlimited the breach of duty which sent them thither.
HERALD.—Notwithstanding all the efforts of Pre-
take or from legislative restrictions ; for I
take it for granted that every gentleman here sident Bonaparte, and the needy adventurers and adven-
whatever his political feelings may be, is of opinion that curing clique by whom he is surrounded, to get up an
agriculture should be protected." In this brief sentence imperial cry, or an imperial demonstration—notwith-
four different meanings are assigned to the word pro- standing all the efforts of the President himself, as puffer
tection-1, that which it might happen to bear in the general and speechmaker to various railroads—notwith.
original documents of the Royal Bucks Agricultural standing the President's power of locomotion and
Association; 2, security from unlimited competition; 3, digestion as a diner -out of the first magnitude, in various
fair play, or freedom from special burdens; 4, the sense departments, east, west, north, and south—the indus-
in which all the members of the above association, of trious efforts of the early Italian revolutionist, of the
whatever political opinion or party they may be, now ask Swiss soldier, of the conspirator of Strasburg and Bou-
for protection. Such ambiguity will not do in politics. logne, and of the prisoner of Ham, have been hitherto
We are ready to use the word " protection " in its gene- unsuccessful, and he still continues plain, unaristocratic
ral dictionary sense, just as we might recommend trades- Citizen Louis Napoleon Bonaparte, President of the
men to combine for their common protection from French Republic, and not Louis Napoleon 1., Emperor
swindlers, or all people to protect themselves from cold of the French. The councils-general of the eighty-six
or from rain. If any class finds itself actually robbed departments, from whom the Ministerial morning paper,
and oppressed, whether by the nation or by any private and that paper's French correspondent, expected so
enemy, by all means let it unite for its protection. The much, have been discreetly and ominously silent, and not
word, however, has always been used iu a very different one among them all has ventured to recommend, as we
sense in the political world, and when Mr. Disraeli were told would be the case, the doffing of the title of
claims the liberty of using it so as to embrace the First Citizen and President, and the assumption of the
old political sense and a new unpolitical sense, he is Imperial purple, by a man very willing to divest himself
entrapping himself and his followers in a knot of of the one, and very eager and ready to wear the other.
equivocations. The history of the last few years is In fact, the game of empire lass been, as we predicted it
enough to show the necessity of a clear understanding would be, a decided failure ; and now the President, to
in these matters. The Buckinghamshire yeomen have recover the ground which be had lost by a leaning to pure
only one idea of protection, and if Mr. Disraeli permits Carlism, as a stepping-stone, and by the sending
retrace his
of the
them to think that he holds it too, he will some day find French army to Rome, is actually obliged to
it hard work to undeceive them. But what we chiefly Imperial and Autocratic steps, and to write liberal and
. anti Papistical letters to M. Edgar Ney—is obliged to
regret in this speech is the wholesale in
lean, not on the devout M. do Falloux and the priest
accuracy Mr. Disraeli commits in the reference
but on that honest, incorruptible, and conscienti-
to his motion for the reduction of the burdens Party,
on agriculture. To that motion we gave a cor- our man Dufaure, the ablest administrator and best man
of business that Franc© has produced in our day. They
dial though qualified support, and we are still of opinion
that Mr. Disraeli succeeded in proving that agriculture who calculate that France is, in the year of our Lord
does not now receive altogether fair usage in this coun- 1549, about to retrograde—is about to abet a slavish or
try. We cannot, however, pass without protest such sacerdotal dominion at Rome, calculate without their
sweeping statements as the following, for they can only host. The man, or the Ministry, who could, would, or
" While should abet such a dominion, would, notwithstanding the
damage the cause they are intended to serve:—
the agricultural population of England contributed suspension of the Constitution, be sent to the right-about
their fair quota to the 50,000,0001. general taxation, as speedily and much more ignominiously than either
they also paid a second revenue equal to 12,000,000/., Charles X.. or the Monarch of the Barricades. It
is not
from which other classes were exempt." Now, Air. because M. Thiers and the Constitutionnel have not seen
Disraeli himself, in the debate he refers to, sufficiently this would inevitably occur, that the thing is not true.
explained that the second revenue was paid, not by the Except as a party and a pampheteer w riter of great
agriculturists alone, but by all the owners of real vigour and pungency, and as a clear conversational and,
props rty. The hardship was, that whereas this second occasionally, ad eaptandum speaker, M. 'riders is the
taxation was for objects of general necessity, it was most over-rated man in Europe, not even except-
paid only on real property, which is not more than a ing our own darling pink of sincerity and can-
third or a fourth of the whole property of the country; dour, the right h, nourable the pseudo .planter of
and further, that although land does not constitute more Connaught. Though holding a brilliant and facile
than half the real property of the country, yet it pays pen, M. Thiers has, on every occasion, showed himself
much more than half the rates and other burdens on real to have been without political judgment or foresight, to
property, inasmuch as agricultural districts are much be ignorant of the present, and to grossly miscalculate
more heavily rated than others. Mr. Disraeli could do the future. When, in addition to this want of per. '-
no more than state the outlines of the case, and give cacity, it is to be remembered that the little man is n'Povet
some illustrations; as, for example, that 100,00oe in- steeped to the very lips in all sorts of intrigue, his error'
vested in the soil of Buckinghamshire paid more poor- of judgment, natural or prepense, are not in the least to
rate, church-rate, land-tax, and other public charges, be wondered at. Be this, however, as it may—let the
than the same sum invested in Manchester. The demon- Carlist, Louis
pPahritliispesotr,
Itop° rleerainailsi
stt,
intriguesJoinvi ll e,hcMwoh,nLt
Mont-
stration, and, still more, the exact apportionment of the pensier,
greater burden borne by agriculture, was a matter of they may, one fact is only clear, and that is, that th•
French nation will not tolerate a reactionary policy its
,?etail, into which he invited inquiry. All this was just
and true; and we have since repeatedly defended Mie
reference to Rome, or an imperial policy in reference to
France. The one and the other are connexive and con.
Disraeli from the charge of forgetting there were othersentaneous. Whatever certain daily and weekly Lou.Lon-
kinds of real property besides land. We cannot doyens
him now, lie has, unfortunately, justified the accuse• don newspapers may say, and for a well understood
cause, about Hungary, the battle of continental and
lion we speak" of. Throughout the whole of his speech
he gives his eonatituents to understand that agriculture Italian freedom is to be really fought at Rome, we,
were not insensible to the importance of the struggle
pays the whole of this second revenue. Such is the
inaccuracy, or the unscrupulousness, which naturally going on in Hungary, but in many respects we did
arises when a man d.'ecusses a grave and difficult not sympathise with that struggle, and in all
question under circumstrocos which do not compel respects we stood aloof from the corrupt influence
care. How, otherwise, are we to account for the so extensively applied by Hungarian diplomatists, not
reiterated statement, that this second revenue of merely in London but in the provinces. But those who.
12,000,0001. "is raised by the farmers of England?" were loudest about Hungary made little noise about
But the practical suggestion which seinds up the speech, Rome, and suffered the cause not merely of freedom and
free opinion, but of the emancipation of tho human
and to which Mr. Disraeli seems to attach considerable
mind, to perish for a time in the Eternal City. But
importance, is even more reprehensible than his lase- freedom is not yet dead in Rome—it only sleepeth, and
curate calculation. He proposes to equalize the land-
tax all over the country by levying Is. 63. in the pound we have that confidence in the omnipotence of truth,
that we are sure before 1850 shall have passed over our
on the letting value of the whole surface. The product
heads the era of
he estimates at 5,000,0001. " Well, then," he prooeeds, pontiffs and inquisitors will have perished
" what shall we do with it? What I propose as a remedy for ever in the Eternal City. The editor of the
Journal des Debuts is good enough to call us an ultra-
is this, that the 5,000,000/. should form a sinking fund,
not a borrowed, but a real sinking fund, which, safely in Conservative journal, and to intimate that we prodi-
raise Consols giously exaggerate, if we do not misrepresent, the
hand, would, in less than ten months,
benefits conferred on Rome by the Roman Triumvirate.
above par, and thus enable landlords to borrow money
to apply to their land at 3 per cent., instead of paying, Now, admitting to the full extent the "soft impeach-
merit" of Conservatism, we deny that in Conservatism or
as they now do, 4 and 4i per cent. Then the farmer
would go to his banker or :neighbour and obtain from in an
Ministerial g else we are ultra. Our aim is not—like our
him, at a reasonable rate, the capital he required for contemporary the Times—to follow and
the improvement of the soil. There, gentlemen, is flatter the trade wind of popular opinion, but to be in
your remedy--equal taxation, and cheap capital." Ta, advance of' it. We have ever thought that the best way
the readers of the Times it must be quite unnecessary to to do away with seditious is to remove the causes of
make any comments on this scheme. Indeed, it would them, and he in our mind is the best Conservative and
the soundest Protectionist who is the, safest and
be an insult to Mr. Disraeli's intelligence to suppose
that he had given it a ten minute's consideration before earliest reformer. Ino suchoz
.so.rt
to Armellini,
have given
toh
he propounded it the gentlemen at the George. Should ourS,
tfoeelAluesoosouippaoor e
and othert Romanizwi patriots. Though
he now give it that consideration, he will speedily dig-
the worthy editor of the Debuts is greatly our senior in
years, and is a man of very varied accomplishments, yet
cover that the philosophy of the money-market, vulgar
as it may be, is not exactly a subject for political im-
wo deny that he has had the opportunity of knowing
,I,talor Rome that it has fallen to our lot to possess.
prornptu.
)r or more. than twenty years we have personally known
CHRONICLE.—The sentence of the court-martial
Armellini—for more than a quarter of a century, from
upon Commander Pitman, of her Majesty's ship Childers,
y he consistent with poetical justice, as it doubtless is
our very boyhood, we have known public opinion in
wwitha the rules and practice of naval jurisprudence; but,
taken in ceunexion with the circumstances that preceded Rome—and we are prepared to maintain that the trium-
virate in 1849 proclaimed no principles or views of public
the trial, it will probably excite, in the minds of those
affairs that had not prevailed and found acceptance in
who have not perused the evidence, some feelings of
surprise, if not of dissatisfaction. The proceedings 1824-5 amosig the instructed classes—proclaimed no
principles that were not professed and combatted for by
emanated, as our readers will remember, from two indi-
duals who had deserted from the ship about six weeks M. Louis Napoleon Bonaparte, himself an Italian—a Ro-
man rebel, in 1831 and 18 M
32. As to M. Mazzini, we
before, and who were proved, by an inquiry which took
know nothing of him personally, and are only acquainted
place on that occasion, to have borne a very indifferent
character in the service. Both were shown, we were with his character by his public acts and by report.
told, upon the concurrent evidence of the first-lieutenant, But from his public acts, state papers, and nego
the purser, and the acting surgeon, to have been ad- lions, we judge him not merely to be a man of honouro
dieted to habits of drunkenness ; and one of the two, and honesty, but of the very highest capacity., acrid,eof
Lieutenant Graham, is stated, upon the same testimony, largo and statesmanlike views. With 3.lbuznzclisit"e'et—t
al.
that France committed an atrocious. d
to have been repeatedly guilty of falsehood. The prose • and
equity, but
violation not merely of common ju
cation, except so far as it might tend to whitewash the
usisatriilla
deserters ill the public estimation, was, of course, of a
dition. France played in Italy w
of the law of nations, in underta.kith stglinotititeßlyomlaenssexppree:
purely vin&ctive character. Graham and Elliott, by
their own faclt—extenuated, it might be, by the faults
of their commanding officer had bid farewell to Poland—of Russia a
tence—with infinitelyndleAssosrteraiasoirnthuengpaarrytfoll.ius
of Austria at Bulogna, Ancona,
inrospects, and they were determined at Milan and Ve_
their professional If Georg Canning had lived in our day,
ge by ruining Captain Pitman and Ferrara.
to have their revent even Viscount Castlereagh, or Spencer Perceval, any
in return. The mo:ives of the accusers, however, or
of
Iss they what they may, do not, it is true, disqualify them
struggleonethese statesmen would have comprehended the
going on at Rome when the Triumvirs were in
from bringing their case before a court of justice, and
ower. A great tribune of the people, either like Fox
or Sheridan, would have caused the very stones of West-
they raise no presumption, Lel' a very slight one,
your of the accused. Yet we, must own that we
.i.ihalnoluefnlsds
usinster and London to mutiny against any unworthy
Butapathy n ofl tsh4e9,,,e Englisha rep e 0 p
withoutlei n referencegi
eat t o
Ministers.that struggle.
e
have been better satisfied had the episode been 1
pie for which Mazziui and Armellini struggled,
uniformly tragic character—had Gealijim rsndoElliott
was a Protestant principle, in
not been expelled the service forrirtumu potaway from
Principle
it was in name,
essence, for it was the struggle of free opinion aganst
Captain Pitman, or had Captainh_o.
be thought to
Loa:n; suffered a
similar penalty for misconduct Sy i 13
despotism—of light against dark-
sniritual tyrannand
tress. For tho Mazzini and Armellini have
offer some palliation for the inquency of Graham and
gagainst the commander of a a moment a
Elliott. The charges brought
hed was accused of
been unsuccessful—the Inquisition bas been established,
the Childers was threefold. First,
the gaols hese been filled—secret tribunals are insti-
general cruelty and oppression Oscar s the men under
his command ; secondly, of reeking false entries in the
of a false expenditure of the tilted, priests and cardinals monopolise all employments,
log-book ; and thirdly,
ship's stores. The two last charges were fully made and the scrip and securities of the Triumvirs are de-
out...easel very grave charges they _undoubtedly are. Predated and run down. But unless the French army
Captain Pitman, it seems, navigated his own ship for sustain these enormities by despotically dragonading
two days in the Chinese seas, at the end of which the Italian citizens, the gorge of the Roman people is
sure, sooner or later, to rise again, and cardinals and
time she ran aground upon a shoal. He appears to
have completely mistaken his whereabouts, and under Priests w
that false impression to have made entries in pencil ill be ultimately, and at no distant day, expelled
never to return. It, however, the French army
in the log, which he afterwards altered in ink so as submit to become the Swiss of a reactionist Pope, the
to correspond more nearly (though, as Mr. and redress t Elliott People of France will en revanche heris be Loth ot against
c,Awlthstanding the e in their
maintains, still far from accurately) with the ship's real President mad army,
course. With respect to the third head, we find that a own peculiar- and seminary way—n
main-topsail and a hammock-cloth washed overboard provision made andd vaunted by all the Changarniers and
Rulhieres of our ay.
were respectively entered is the expense- book as ex-
pended, though both were afterwards recovered. The
sail, which was damaged, but not destroyed, by its sub-
mersion, was cut up by the captain's orders, and applied
to the various purposes for which spare canvass is wanted
on board ship; the hammock-cloth did duty in its pris-
tine capacity for two years afterwards, though somewhat
tho worse for wear. The bulk of the evidence, however,

GREAT NORTLI OF :SCOTLAND RAILWAT.—The
Duke of Richmond and other landed proprietors inte-
rested in the construction of this line from Aberdeen
through Elgin Fortes and Nairn to Inverness held a
meeting a few days since at Gordon Castle, with the view
of carrying the project into exeeutiva.