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London, England, 1813-11-19 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

•LOTII CASTLEUEAGIT moved tor leave to bring
in a Bill to amend and explain the Act of
the 41st of the King, respecting. the vacating
.of seats in Parliament, in consequence of ac-
cepting certain illfwes under the Crown. There
had existed a 'considerable doubt whether certain

nflices granted by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland
• were to be considered offices tinder the Crown. .It
• was doubted tvliether the office of the Chief Secre-
tary to the. Lord Lientenant came under that de,
• scription, as it was an office that would he vacat-
.ed by the appointment of another Lord Lieute-
nant. It appealed to him, that• those offices should
lie considered as office: under the Crown ; and
- that the transferring the authority in Ireland from
one Lord Lieutenant to another unide no more
difference in the question than the transferring
du, authority in this country trout the Crown to
he Prince Regent.—llowever, to remove all dmibts
upon the staiject, audio protect any persons hold-
ing• those offices front inadvertently incurring
• penalties, he thought it best . to bring in a new
Act fur removing, all doubts.—Leave given.
. NIX OF MAN DEBTORS.

Mr. lloaNmt wished to put a question to the
Bight lion. Gentleman opposite to him. lie.had
been informed that a Bill had been passed by the
Legislature of the Isle of Man, for the relief Of
their Insolvent Debtors, but that it had been re-
jected by the Privy Connell. Ile wished for some
information upon this point.
BATituasT said, that a Bill had been scut
up by the localsjuisdiction of the ISl,tutl, to which
the vV- Co u cil could not agree. The only ob-
iection to it was, that, from the manner in which
tt was drawn, it was feared that debtors from this
country, nO,.;bt go over to the Isle of Man, for the
purpose of claiming the benefit of that Act. If
they %you'd send up a 'new Bill, free from' this ob-
jection, and which would Only apply to the instil-
veLt debtors of that island properly, there was not
a probability of any dissent to it. ,
Mr. LocKHART gave notice, that he should on Monday
move for leave to brio,' in a Bill for the speedy discharge of
the insolvent debtors of England.
The consideration of the Galway petition was postponed
second 'Tuesday in March.
The report of the Subsidy Dill was brought up. and the re•
solutions were agreed to.
VOLUNTEERING

This 13111 having been tend a third time,
Sir W. CURTIS moved fur a clause by way of
rider, " saving the rights and privileges of the
City of London." The City of London had; how-
ever, as much zeal and wish to support the exer-
tious of government as any other part of bis Ma-
, jesty's dominions ; and as a proof of it, he was
huppv to stilt.: that the Common Conneil had
agr, ed to propose a bill far allowhg Loudon
regimentik of militia to Of() any part of the king-
, lotn.—(llear, hear). This bill he supposed
would be ready on Monday or Tuesday next;
Lord CASTLRREAGH was very happy to accept
their services in the way that was most agreeable
._,gin themselves.
The elautte wait added to tiro-hilt by way of rider.
On theAinestion being put upon the preamble,
• • Mr. \i"orraattAn rose to move the amendment
of which he had given notice. in his view of
.the subject, while he wished to give
,every sup-
, port to tie measure propo-3ed, he thought it still
necessary to guard himself- front any improper in-
terpretations of the motives upon which be gave
his opium , by 'having them recorded on the
Journals of the Pouse. Ills motives for giving
his support, were the confidence and expectation
which lie had,' that "those, exertions which he Was
ready to support, would conduce to the restoration
of the blessings of peace to this.country and to En.
rope. lie was not insensible of the burdens which
.those mea.sures would necessarily impose upon the
people orthis country, orof the great pressure which
they now sustained.. tie did not feel those con-

shleretiotts less acutely how than he •hail ut for-

ow periods.. 1-fe %vas not insensible of the'great
many,meritorimis officers Of the
Tole %Vol,ld conceive there Was in placing ollicers
of, the militia over their heads. Ely Wai rant less
convinced than he.had been on fotmer occasions,
that instead ;of resorting, to perpetual expedients
of tlis miture, it would be tvell to-have a great
principle. otablished, which might at ull times
be looked to for the supply of our armies.—
Other measures had been carried this Session
without observation, 'which, at other -thnes,
might have called for animadversious from him.
The Local l'oken Bill, and the, titivation to which
it was limited, appeared to him a Confession on
the part of the Chancellor of the EN:chef:pier,
of iris opinion of the present state of our
correovy. Indeed, it wits well known,- that the
price of the precious metal wits intreasing, and hail
now arrived tit a height at which it was never
known. Notwithstanding these considerations, he
wished to support the measure 110 - proposed by
Mioisters, leaving upon them the responsibility of
directing the great means confided to them ta.that
important end, which they themselves allowed to
be the only legitimate °hint of till .war. From
amity parts of the speech of the Noble Lord (Lord
Castlereagh) last night, be had Alt the greatest
satisfactioa,,and entertaitied stronger hopes than
be hail before, of the sincere disposition of mini-
v ters for peace. lie was therefore willing to forego,
for the present, for inquiry on many parts
of the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers, and par-
tienlarly on the conduct of the war with America
lie would, however, now pot in his claim to discuss
those subjects at some future time, if lie should
think proper ;, hut, for the present, be was con-
tent to .let all those matters pass: As he sincerely
wished to support Ministers in their present
sures, lie ‘voulii not enemnber them with qttes»
tionii of that sort.'at a time when all their eiver-
gies Should be directed to fecure nu honourable
0114 a lasting peace. He should, howevcr, for the
reasons he lucid before stated, propose hiN amend-
ment. to the prealible of this 14111. Before he pot
his Motion, into the hands of the Speaker, he 11,1,Wit

state, that Mere were some eNpressions in the
speech of the Noble Lord, from which he
tie-
riced a most favourable omen. The Noble Lord
had stated,, that it was immediately after the
battle of Vittoria that Ministers accepted!. the me,
citation of the Emperor of Atitria. This was,
deed, a happy moment to select for proving their
pacific disposition. If a sincere disposition ex-
iStedd in the Administration, or in any part of the
Administration, for peace, that Administration,or
that part of it,.slionld have his support in the
measures. likely to conduce to that great object.
lie thought, that in former Administrations, the
great Powers which had been confided to Minis-
ters by Parliament had not salways been directed
to that hbject. The conduct, therefore, of those
Administrations, lie had conceived it his duty to
watch with more jealousy than he now felt. He
concluded by moving, as an amendment in the
preamble; the insertion of the following wdirds•:—
,‘ For the purpose of bringing: the prennt war to a speedy
and happy terinittltion, and obtaining the bies,,ings of peace,
tvit It reciprocity, security, .and honour, to all the Belligerent
Powers. • _ _

Lord-CAsTuter.Acitt conceived that it would be ,
it dereliction of his duty not to make sonic obser,
vations on the Statement which had been .Made,
and the motiou which had been submitted to
them : he trusted that neither the I loose nor the
Country would he led into a persuasion that peace
was entirely in the hands of the Ministers. They
knew the formidable enemy that we were now
contending with in war.; and they Attul4 also
consider the formidable enemy with whom a ne-
Toelation for peace must be conducted. The sort
of pope which was now to be desired, was not
only an honourable peace, but a peace that would
hold out some reasonable prospect of lasting re-
pose to this Country and to Europe. Tbe Conn-
'try could not Wish for such it peace as would in
its effects disarm them, and leave them at tin:-
mercy of their enemy to renew his attacks upon
them, whenever. he should judge it to be a more
convenient season. We should not dis!nise.
either from ourselves, or the .country, that there'
might be dangers in peace as
,%vell as dangers in
•war. Hc 'coincided in the spirit and the language
of the manifesto of the Emperor of Austria, who
" thought it better to incur all the risks and danger,
of immediate war, than to livein daily dread of those.
attacks tvhich might be prepared against his donii-
pions, during a states things to ~chid; the name of
peace might he given." Ile hared that neither the
Manse nor the Country would betuided by the nitine
of peace without the substance. If his Majesty's
Ministers had accepted the mediation of Austria .
after the battle of Vittoria, it ens because Austri.:
had then taken a different attitude, and because '
France had somewhat relaxed front her former
tone with respect to Spain. If, however, a peace
had been negociated, the fundamental basis of it
must have been, that this country. would preserve
inviolably its good faith to its Allies, and the. en-
gagements it had 'entered into with them. No
Gentlethatt in that House could feel a more anxious
wish titan he had for an honourable and secure
peace ; but it would be necessary always to bear
in Mind the enemy 'with whom We were contend-
ing, and the enemy with whom we should have to
negociate a peace.
1.1,1 r. 'W. tiMiTti was desirous• to second the
amendment propiyied by his Honurable• Friend,
because he thought that the •wortis proposed by•
him being introduced into the preamble of the
Bill would render the measure more popular, and
operate as a greater inducement to the militia to
enter iurn

Mr. WHITBNEAD, to explanation, said, that
the words proposed to be adled, viz. " on,terms
of reciprocity, security, and honour," shewed
that his views or the peace that Ought to, be oh.
twined were now, ►and al►vays had been, sin►llar
to those at present avowed by his Majesty's Mi.
nisters ; and he had proved,' it, by ►►greeing usi nU
the measures they had proposed, in the confident
hope they would he conclucive to that desirable
end. •

Mr AryNNE objected to the amendment, be-
cause he had never, seen in Al,,jesty's present 'Mi-
nisters, oar in any former ones, any imikposition
to accede to terms of peace, founded an th 4 bases
held out by, the word s of the amendment.
The ainemlment,was then put, and negatived.
Several verbal amendments were then added, and
the kill read a tbitli time, and passed.

'Elie report of the Committee of Supply was brought up,
anti agre,:d-to.
The report of the Cola taittee on .the Acts• relative to the
duties on cuionial produce of the Last India Company Wail
hrout.;-ht up, mill ai-.e,•J to. • •.. •
Mr. KIiNII.I(.:K the order.of the day for the second
reading of tho Per I.
Mr. FELL( to,it, observing that, a;. the
-.vent to. the ..I the local lases of almost every
pariat. of the time•oughtto It' given
tor the due Cu ; ~1 ,trtt,l I,r propo.>e,l that
the see 4.1 cl re.. . ! der: .o the Ist of March.
Mr. W. Smi • ..:•.•!,11, Mr. Ittetx, nod several other
nieliVnea 14.1.1.0wr.s ; awl after
sosur eonver.vith.:.; :e;ii4:llC of the DUI was ~o,t-piied
piied to-these Febraary. • •
Thy rep,... . on the .Sugar, I)raivlateL Act
to; and leave 'wus given to
bring. a Mil to ao, .I.' t,,e. sa:tt Act.
Thel.onn tilU, ;lot. tlre,t,iergy Relief. Bill, wore severally
read-o s.!entsti time, and oviitm-rd tobecommittini to-loorrow•
.• The Anaual lniieutuity Mil was road a third time, and
p,io.sed.-41.djuurtied.. .