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to At class of coionies which he wished to be represented
the West India Islands—contained a population of 314,6,
freemen ; and the next class contained upwards of 135.°,i:
'regimen, including whites and men of colour, bell:.
690,000 slaves. The exports from this country to
West India Islands amounted annually to five millioog 6:1
a half sterling, and we received from them imports to°
value of nine millions. As to the importance of our P„
s,2ssions in the East Indies, it was unnecessary for h'01:,
go into any arguments or to state any det ills. Their va'°'
and importance would be admitted by all ; and it orqf
maim d for hint to explain in whit manner he should
tribute their representatives, and how those represenrriti';
st.ould be elected. The documents to which he could re
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as the bests of his arrangement were, he was n'll'ke'
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ildt perfectly accurate; hut the statements were, in ti h-;Portarn din
aggregate, an appretimation to the truth. Btgillet"; Itemoeilitiro
V•s'ith Calcutta, he found in that ilia' itself only 1,200 ij'y
1,1 the bur('
ropeans, exclusive of the troops arid the servaiein 6111, clause-tr. among.
Company ; but there were in oder parts of Bengal,, the , embrac
finning Calcutta, and eubject to Cie same juri ditt''',; kin. Bill not,
18,000 Europeans; and in that city there were more tb"t thei isters wo
20,000 Bt iti•h Ind airs—that is, natives born of Brie°; teourl,°,l'n ha
parents, besides an Indian population of upward" if .4 he Willi.
265,000 ; and taking in the population of a vellage 'l4o' hill Colutnitiel
tans from the city nut more than a mile and a half, theo, stn.. he wool(
would be found a population of 23,000 British, is lett' which le
625,000 natives. Now to all those he proposed to g'o' the:thing any
only one representative ; but he thought that one would., had colonies
sufficient to give the Horse necessary information 'Jr.; II ut r.'" 0.6, t
subjects connected with the interests of the colony, °r i dile it
was to )
pont out the way in which the best information could t sat rents kinds
obtained. To the population of Madras, amounting `, eetern_al arreng
462,000 persons, he proposed to give only one 310111 c eeaer,""l inter(
which, however, he thought would he sufficient Inc I I The try, with
representation of their interests. Bombay had, on It %,,i,il legislation
groonds of population and commercial importance, near' e ed to giv
equal claims to either of the other Presidencies. Stria
pore, M dacca, and Prince of Wales's bland, taken as°, heeicttd often
constituency, had similar claims. To all that itnPer",„,' tatieel no door
class of our colonies he proposed to give only four 316"; th,t— 'n the B
hers; and he should now proceed to explain to the 11°c•A' to ,t pot only e
the manner in which he thought they might be elected' te,.,,..seP'rate
About four years aeo, that House had made the a'; tad 'ht 'treks, a
tines of India eligible to sit as jurors, and had left itl rept ad also a
the Supreme Court in Calcutta to fix the qualificati thej'entatives
kN
them thator
''at'ltni teher esr:leiiiiiri°l
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In that way, therefore, there was a constituency read; jt.et'l. Were affee
prep seed. —( Hear.) He proposed to give the right , eise',C;(l-Irar,
voting fur the representative of the Presidency to ev% and e "'r so 1
man who was qualified to sit upon a Jury. Althonl, that
tlolaira„i 1
the constituency thus obtained would not he very numertled iostr: a diV181(
et first, yet its cumbers would speedily be atigtnent
~ reeke etn'n to
when the natives should become aware of the ituporten' to a Provisio
of the right of voting for the Member. In Sincerer' Imrairte,Present tr
Malacca, and Prince of Wales's Island there did o"ti ThtYs'"
preeent exist such a qualification ; but he (Mr. nua'et, Ali! "latlois
could see no difficulty in extending the same law re.14,0,c trseai, LAI3OI.
ing the qu dification of jurors and electors to those colon' i hiroihs long u 1
As to Upper India, he thought that the constitueneY:, diff,reer for Ali
Calcutta would sufficiently represent its interests. He Pend "'Unit" to the
proceeded to show, from statements ad...! population, frt that I l'' hear
of the commercial importance of the Crown colonies, tit ads4 had stitM
they had claims to thetepresentation on the same grouch: toth:t rePreser
and to the same extent, that he ask, d for Alernher, '., 'tele: e°lonies
al3rpiltai :lei
(I); elcioli
dered to be lade more than a military station, yet it s'' ,ltte. 111% Labour
asbz:iiei,iitiati•itin,:4%;:saeyesednitcffihtrele(uko:lu.etnysyl%a.,,tn,oi,s,dnl
colonies,
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constituency. In Ceylon, for instance, Sir Alesn° i Notli It .e.,
butch,l stheaighttegulate
Johnston had extended to the natives of that Wend 0 oat ate' ,Could d
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rNikgthettlotetrylotetinngiea?nticutt,wgibvee another was
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ment try representative. An Hon. Gentleman just below Pod sent f ' It wt
pressed any intention to give the franchise to any'lOuld "ontry
who were qualified to sit on Juries, and he believed It, itting that
Hon. Aletelter must know that slaves were not so 03; t''''lbini„in that'
fled. He thought it would have been a much fitter qti`e, lie el toget
tion, whether every roan in England was to have a v't: I Il'ould "I?" total
—( Hear.) For his own part, lie had often stated in t; tt° entry eat thl
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house his opinion that every man who contribute.] to I. ^ this a' ale
payment of the public burthens, even by the constunlitt.; til'loniet titect, i
of taxable commodity, ought to have a voice in the chci,lo
of those by whom time tuxes were imposed. That sve 'le edittaihtngereeeliavmteeli
honest on ; but lie was not so unreasonable as to e *hitt, hadted that
pest that all other gentlemen in that House would cottclu; 'tbuhiect of beaean
in his opinion.—(Hear, heir.) The next class of c°,l e.lB, count t)h-b"
riles was that in which he placed the Wert India Iniutt: ,„'"ch th re:' e-tt
He wou'd give one Mt tither to Jamaica and the 13ehstre L4()Yed, as- °uJe
containing together a population of 30,000 free Wl''bit. the
IOW": tht:
and 37,000 free people of colour, in all 67,000. 133r"e et-e fortl(o)tis.n? I"'
does, &c., contained a population of 14,957 whites, 50
6 iii,:idtry,i',,deet`it:iants:i
15,000 frees people of colour. St. Vincent's, Grenada'
it:rlotnhieei,:eiroualtdhoil
Tobago, &c., contained together 17,000 whitee, and c, l', 11.-egislet,', for it
weeds of 13,000 free men of colour. Dominica
population of 840 whites, and 3,600 free people of c'il'4:
tilt,itll4}tiaeht,el,niaiineti
The free population of Montserrat was 350 whites,
people of colour; of St. Chrietoplier'e, 1,612 whites,1, e"ejeet
of
that they
people of colour; of Tortola, 4'77 whites, 1,286
eli00; tpeat portion o
peofi "rtted
of colour; and the free inhabitants of Antigua rtes 1,44,t •
rtopec" h
1,980 whites, and 3,895 coloured. To this last efts"
ii.e la ouch ee e 7
he would add the island of Nevis; and to each of the i'lo di:heir hatrie su;
clusters lie would give one Member. Now he thong ettenseion ofngert`
iet:)lio‘73tetrt:gupson an
the Members fur those islands might be conveniently deco
thus :—Where three or four islands were together 0,14 appear to hit
have one representative, the same constituency t:liji kilt as they had
chose the Members of their domestic Legislature
appoint delegates from each island, and the :Member
tioliti:4ion hut that
tie British House of Commons would be elected by .0, ta;oe' induce then
majority of these delegates. In any case where the nail,- te i'ing to be was
her of votes in favour of two tiandWates should be ate a„,'e presumed
then the election should be decided by the vote of the , 45-Lei,l
turning island (as we understood the Hon. Gentletnoao
He hoped that no difficulties would he thrown in the tt'd
of the plan which he had proposed for the formstioulta 14ntty, as b° gm'
le: tit
the constituency in those islands and in the East Ind'olllia4nres ,„
For both propositions he had precedents, as he had airt4i,i se ,igteat n'togn t 't
explained. As to tl.e British possessions in North Ain 4 tio,''' tr) gean;eYet
rice, if they were at all worthy of being retained, e'lae 1114- W:hich, thesOnr,
means ought to be adopted to place them on theca'- hl,,:ttielly ~
friendly terms with the mother country.—(Hear, be°,) i:l'er forc-hncee,
Much of the bickering and heatt-btmenings which Pti, trta "th had '';`''
arisen within a few years past would have been preveaktev tit: thin, He
if the colony hail been allowed the means of laying P'of trpr the g e cut
grievances and complaints before the British Houle( "t ~e'tenterd rn tool
Commons, through their oven representative. If °lie htibotteuption tool
had been in that House an individual connected with to tied ry and
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colony, and acquainted with their interests and wants' id rive] of ti:ei,orrui
would have been impossible that their grievances B",udi vitlt, te km} 'non'
have leen for so many years complaint(' of in vain, le
,ttieja4..°l,e.e.edi)teilln
ehotild remain s ill unredressed. In stating the por Opt '4O 41,ett n -
lion of those colonies, be was compelled to use the rettilt littonkest rk.T.,
which had been laid upon the table of that Holori re little:. Ic te ;TT(
though he knew that they fell eery far short of the fiti-o. sin list wide '`
sent amount. Upper Canada had 265,000 inhaliita-0 '10f,,,, foe M.a.,11(
and Lower Canada more than 188,000. New Br uturd' ,i'llt :tabeese..; tu,d
wick, Nova Scotia, St. Edwards, and Bermuda, contoo 10,0`.°41inere.entlel
together, a population of more titan 300,000. It noci°fr tie% f°° tons w
remained for him to say in what manner the Memberi#
,temat'deo,,,,
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North Atnerira should be elected ? Ile thought, thee, tie' lert,t, ted, it "i'
the plan which he had proposed for the West Indian r,i, 'lt for". for midWa
lat.de, having domestic legislatures, would be equally allele ,1 I.ortliv4td the di
cattle for the same reason• to the North American ;el tltit th ALTHri
nies. But he might still be asked how were the Alt 110 41 lite!, detail ,
when so chosen, to find their way to that House.---(ithree t eleoLtnlier fool
ri
hear, and laughter.) Now, to that question he had we' elitildt,l4 the 0:
answers : in other words he had three strings to his b°
0' 0.
e te'tild 'l."
he int-
(A laugh.) There were three ways in which those wet 41(.44 not %vot 1
hers might be sent there. They might he elected f°t,hert 'tteeag4in"t its .t
years, and hold their seats for that term, whether. le, e kof4Pliti the
l':'
wets one or two different Parliaments in the nicant111:001 brim(' prof
Li,
that is, time Colonial Members appointed to this Parhar/ Ikt.net htt`'Old jot se
should hold their seats in the next without a re-electi° ail' Ca s tlkitte ag'
(Laughter.) His second proposal was, that should a fot
kit
eV:
solution take place before the expiration of the tettel:, be kht theit't or gheec
which a colonist Member had been originally elec eke' emott
'''hffi itt'Partan
should hold his place in the next Parliament until the 0
~ , obit,„ ~ c
hear, hear.) He (Mr. Hume) was ready to adroit t 7 test et tiott"Ohiinselif
would not be possible to view so important a subject 000,e, '
g Le ti ° ti' tett, •in 'Nest
tion of a successor.—(Much laughter, and cries of,ins't il iihnitetitttnnto Citeetliz:
which he was endeavouring to bring before the
144' to it
tle,°"° so eOi
without great difference of opinion, if Hon. Oen thee te,, ' th 4 tO the hi
would not give their attention to that subject. I° oft] the th:t ate• the pr.
lion. Gentlemen below him (pointing to the leaders °sob
.41
tr) he '4ht the 1
Opposition) who laughed paid no attention at all ;reed tit 4 them Cokedh to g
therefore, the Right Hon. Gentleman (the late Sec k(), 44)44 of
to the Admiralty) might laugh. !Ile' th4hotiblinost hos
Mr. CRUDER—lndeed, I did'nt laugh at all."'''' itth,k go , t,Ot the
bed
pered laughter.) wo.; tes ehe uld be
Mr. HUME was well aware that many Hum It col he atlee s° touch
around him, possessing intimate local knowledge',,,, Iselldeti--'iliti the
point out errors iii his plan, and could suggest "tl.,}opi3' le ('elite 6t° Vs, pre
nients. He had stated two modes in which (Leon' tiezttaia tit tinjert:
Members might be elected ; and as they seemed t° :sieel eitittearle leousi
sidered by the House to be objectionable, he vc°"iti jecne: tele ts J. le tliece.,
a third mode. Let there be writs issued for the ewos th,:ieptt Aleut
of new representatives for the colonies, in the NO' Ger' tt/it ;11'Nott4l'ittative
fur other Members, as the close of each Perlianier't' '0 the "qo 'll of l'ept.
!•ces ' ri, 1, l'e th e'e
teinly, they would nut he able to take their p 4
... cot
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new Parliament for some months. But then the" 0 Fre,; 1),, li,toil,tgoo,e
l'i
tuents would tie in tio worse state than they were Jodi 'II, he ad
l'h r
e tub
Islands weuld arrive in six months, and those fro
sent.—(Bear, hear.) The Members from time Woettlyiti-Jt i'