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London, England, 1849-04-03 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, April 2.
Their Lordships assembled at Five o'clock.
The Earl of MALMESBURY presented a petition
against the rate in aid.
THE POLES.
The Earl of EGLINTON explained that he had
seen reported in the pubic journals the conversation
which had Wien place in that House on the subject
of the Poles, and begged to state that he
had on a previous occasion stated that although
he had the highest admiration for some of the Pole., yet
that many of them had been turbulent, and, notwith-
standing all that had passed on Friday, be repeated that
he thought that neither the Poles nor any other
foreigner ought to receive any allowances from this
country.
The Earl of HARROWBY explained.
After a few words from the Earl of MOUNTCASILEL and
the Earl of EGLINTON, the subject dropped.

PETITIONS.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented a petiticn again&
the rate in aid from Tipperary, stating that the peti•
tioners would prefer the imposition of an income-tax.
Lord MONTEAGLE presented several petitions
against the rate in aid. The Noble Lord then proceeded
to hail the proposition of Sir Robert Peel as full of hope
for Ireland, and he trusted it would receive due con-
sideration. The Noble Lord also presented a petition in
favour of settling national differences by arbitration.
E irl FI TZWILLIANI presented a petition in favour
of the undertaking of Public Works in Ireland. The
Noble Earl also expressed his high approval of the
proposition of Sir Robert Peel, and trusted that now
those propositions had been propounded by such high
authority it would obtain more consideration than it
had obtained when propounded by an individual like
himself.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid on the table
certain papers relating to Ireland.
NORTH OF ITALY.
Lord BROUGHAM asked if it was true that the
Polish General who commanded the Sardinian army had
been recommended to King Charles Albert by the Eng-
lish Government?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that the indi•
vidual alluded to (he could not pronounce his name)
hid not been at all recommended by the English Go-
vernment to Charles Albert; neither had any other indi-
vidual been so recommended.
The Earl of ABERDEEN was not surprised at the
report, as the English Government had shown some
partiality to Sardinia, and hostility towards Austria,
and as this Pole had at a former period been em-
ployed by the English Government. And he must say he
never had seen such perfect unanimity among all parties
as at the result of this contest. He believed that an armis-
tice had taken place without our intervention, and he
hoped our mediation would not be interposed in malting
the peace, as he felt convinced that our mediation only
tended to continue the state of war. The King of Sar
dinia had broken his treaty with us as well as with Austria, and therefore there could be no ground to call upon
us to mediate. "In God's name," said the Noble Earl,
" let the French Government have the entire credit of
preserving the integrity of Piedmont if they consider
it expedient so to do, but let not us adopt the strange
dreams of M. Lamartine."
The Marquis of LANDSOWNE said that he
believed the Polish General alluded to had been
some years ago employed by our ambassador
at Constantinople. The Noble Lord had no public
grounds whatever for saying that we had shown any
partiality to the King of Sardinia.—(Hear, hear.)
The Noble Earl had acted upon information that was
partial.—(Hear, hear.) The whole information would
soon be before the House, and he thought the Noble
Earl would have done well to have waited for
full information before accusing his country of partiality.
The Government had not and did not intend to offer
mediation; but if that mediation should this year be
asked by both parties, as they had been asked by both
parties last year, they should consider the question open
to consideration.
The Earl of ABERDEEN considered that the Go-
vernment had shown partiality by not publishing the
Austrian dispatch, and he considered our whole conduct
had been marked by partiality, when we offered media-
tion, in the month of August, in favour of Sardinia.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE—Our mediation
was asked for by Austria in the month of May. He
thought it was unjust in the Noble Earl to pronounce a
deliberate judgment on the conduct of the Government,
in the absence of evidence, when the whole of the evi-
dence was about to he laid before the House.
Lord BROUGHAM believed that the Government had
done all they could bona fide to prevent the last impru
dent outbreak of Charles Albert, who had paid the penalty
of his rashness, and had defended his throne with courage;
but nothing could exceed his disgust and contempt and
aversion fur those Milanese who had deserted him. He
wished the Government had shown the same prudence in
1847 that they had in 1846, but in 1847 they threatened
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The Earl of ABERDEEN explained that what he
had said was an unhappy attempt at a joke.—(Hear.)
He considered the integrity of Piedmont was in no dan-
ger. If it were, he agreed that England ought to inter-
fere to preserve it.
Lord BROUGHAM hoped it would go forth that
never had there been a victory which gave such univeral
satisfaction as had the victory of Radetzky.—(" Oh, oh,"
from Lord Aberdeen.)
Earl FITZWILLIANI thought that throughout this
debate they had been too hard on foreigners. They had
accused Charles Albert of perfidy and ambition. If he
were guilty of perfidy and ambition, had rot
Frederick the Great of Prussia been also guilty of perfidy
and ambition?—(" Hear, hear," from Lord Aberdeen)
—yet he was the ally of England, and was supported in
his ambitious views by England.—(Hear, hear.) Charles
Albert had been driven out by the Liberals o Genoa.
It should be recollected that although Spanish Sovereigns
had reigned its Italy for some centuries, yet Italy had
never been subject to the German yoke until the treaty
of Utrecht. He thought they had heard a little too
much of perfidy and ambition, considering that in other
cases where that perfidy and ambition had been success-
ful, we had been among the first to hail its success.
MUTINY BILL.
The Mutiny Bill was read a third time and passed.
THE LATE VICTORY IN INDIA.
The Duke of RICHMOND asked if the Government
had received any return of the names of the officers who
had fallen in the late victory?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said the Government
had received no returns of the names of the officers who
had fallen.
The Marquis of ABERDEEN presented a petition
against the rate in aid, and expressed his approval of the
proposal of Sir R. Peel.
PROTECTION OF JUSTICES (IRELAND) BILL.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved the second
reading of this Bill.—Agreed to.
RECOVERY OF WAGES (IRELAND) BILL.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved the second
reading of the Recovery of wages (Irel.tnd) Bill.-
Agreed to.

PETTY SESSIONS BILL.
Lord CAMPBELL moved the Committee on this Bill.
After a short conversation the Bill passed through
Committee.
The Marine Mutiny Bill and the Indemnity Bill s, ere
respectively read a third time, aid their Lordships ad-
journed.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, April 2.
The SPEAKER took the Chair a few minutes before
Four o'clock.

THIRD READINGS.
The followinz Bills were read a third time:
Bill.
Argyll Canal (Abandonment of Undertaking, &e.

Edinburgh and Northern Railway (Additional Capital
and Amendment of Acts) Bill.
Rock Life Assurance Company Bill.
Warrington Waterworks (Amendment of Act and
Power to raise additional Capital) Bill.
Permission was given for bringing up a proposed
clause to the following Bill:--North Western Railway
(Extension of Lancaster Branch, Abandonment of Wil-
liam Lands Branch, New Road to Settle Station, Ex-
tension of Time for Purchase of Lands and Construction
of Works).
ASIITON-UNDER-LYNE POLICE BILL, &c.
On the motion for considering the report on the Ash-
ton-under-Lyne Police, Markets, and Improvement Act?
Extension and Amendment, and transference of Gas and
Waterworks and other Property to the Corporation Bill,
Mr. BROTHERTON moved that the Bill be recom-
mitted, and that the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway
Company, the London and North-Western Railway
Company, and the Manchester, Sheffield, and Lin-
colnshire Railway Company be heard by their counsel,
agents, and witnesses before the Committee against the
said Bill, in respect of matter introduced in the Bill in
Committee, on their respective petitions deposited in the
Private Bill-office on Friday, 29th of March.
Mr. W. PATTEN proposed that instead of adopting
the motion of the Hon. Member for Salford, the Bill
should bo recommitted altogether, and not in the way
proposed by the Hon. Member.
Mr. HINDLEY said the railway companies in the
neighbourhood opposed the Bill, because their property
would be rateable like all other property. An agree-
ment had formerly been come to with the Earl of Stam•
ford, the lord of the manor, and the canal companies in
the vicinity, for exempting clay and other minerals from
contributing to the rates, whereupon the railway compa-
nies turned round and asked a similar exemption with
respect to their property, which he thought was un-
reasonable. He did hope his Hon. Friend the Member
for Salford would not press his motion.
Mr. GREENE coincided in the suggestion thrown out
by the Hon. Member for North Lancashire.
The amendment of Mr. Wilson Patten was then
agreed to without a division.

REPORTS.
The reports on the following Bills were taken into
consideration and agreed to:—
Hartlepool Gas and Waterworks
Wareham Docks (Construction of Docks near Wareham,
and Entrance thereto from Wareham Channel) Bill.
JAMES'S DIVORCE BILL.
This Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be
committed.

PETITIONS.
Mr. RICE presented several petitions from Dover in
favour of referring national disputes to arbitration.
Mr DUNCAN presented a petition from Dundee,
against the Registration of Marriages Bill for_Seotland.
Sir' . EGERTON presented a petition from Birken•
head alpine& Any Alimam in tile wiYiNi94-lAwo.

Mr. ELLIOT presented sev.-ral petitions from various
places in Scotland against the R..4gistration of Marriages
Bill for Scotland.
Mr. BROWN presented a petition from Lancashire
in favour of a superannuated fund for the relief and
maintenance of aged and infirm poor-law officers.
Mr. SOTIIERON presented a petition from Devizes,
agreed to at a large meeting of agriculturists at that
place on Friday last, and signed by the nigh Sheriff of
the county, who was chairman of the meeting, praying
the House to devise measures for the relief of the exist
ing agricultural distress, by abolishing the malt and hop
duties.
Mr. HOWARD presented a petition from a place in
Cumberland in favour of arbitration in cases of national
disputes.
Sir J. WALMSLEY presented a petition from Mel-''
combo Regis in favour of the Marriage Act Amend-
ment Bill.
Mr. I'MURKE presented a petition from Kildare
against the Rate in Aid Bill.
Viscount JOCELYN presented similar petitions from
different parts of Ireland.
SUNDAY RAILWAY TRAVELLING (SCOT-

it aclep!ed by the House, would contribute to the
dispatch of business. it appeared to him that for se-
veral years pa,t, Gentlemen had brought forward mea-
sures of the. very I.,st importance on Thursdays; arid the
consequence had been that Hon. Members had asked
Bills to bo proceeded with which it was utterly impos-
sible to prece“l, there being so little time allowed to
go into the consideration of Bills brought forward by the
Governme-t ; and another consequence had to en
that many Bills of great imice!rtanee had been brought
forward at a very late period of the session, and the
other House of Parliament had refused to consider
those Mai on account of the lateness of the period when
those Bills were carried up to them. He did not
mean to propose that, in every case, orders
of the day should have preference of notices
of motion on Thursdays. He should think an arrange-
ment might occasionally be made by which in the case
of certain Bills, which were of such interest that they
coalet not we.ll be taken outof their course, the rule might
be vari.-d. With reg!ird to the measure with respect to
oaths taken by Members of Parliament, he had already
or posed that that should be taken on the 30th inst.
I.Fith respect to the navigation laws he trusted
that the House would allow the report on that measure to
be received during the present sitting, and if they did so
he would propose to fix the third reading for the 23d of
April. With respect to the Rate in Aid Bill, providsd,
the Government got votes on account, he should
hope that the debate on the secondreading
:)f the Bill would close to-night, so that they
might come to a decision upon it. The motion
For the large grants of which he had given notice
was likely to give rise to considerable discussion ; and
it would be inconvenient that a question like that should
be postponed till after the recess. lie should, therefore,
propose, if the Rate in Aid Bill was read a second time
that evening, that it should be committed on the 16th of
the present month. He wished to dispose of all these ques-
tions before he proceeded to the other business beore
the House.
Mr. HUME doubted very much, judging by the ex-
perience of last session, whether the encroachment
on the privileges of Members would be attended
with success. He thought that if the Noble Lord
had delayed the motion until next June, it would
have a much better effect. He would strongly suggest
to the Noble Lord to wait till the end of May, if not to
the middle of June, before he tried the experiment.
He would, therefige, move; as an amendment
to the motion of the Noble Lord, that instead of the 19th
of April, the 31st of May should be inserted, and after -
that date he had no objection that the Government
should take every Thursday if they pleased.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL made a tew observations in
reply to the proposition of Mr. flume, which were
totally inaudible in the gallery.
Mr. EWART conceived that if this system were to be
agreed to, there would be less chance than ever for pri-
vate Members to inrroduec their business to the House;
for if it were to be left till the end of the session, there
would be greater difficulty than ever in making a
House, especially when there were many notices on the
paper.