The Sun.
London, England, 1849-02-09 00:00:00

FRIDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 9, 1849.7

an L.L.D.—a doctor of laws—as being
entitled to a distinguished literary title—
and yet who could not recollect, after the
question had been several times put to him, when that
degree had been conferred upon him—suppose they
elected a man Mho had represented • himself as an
officer of the Royal Artillery, and they could not find
that such an officer, non-commissioned officer, or pri-
vate ever appeared on the books.—(Cries of " Shame.")
He was assuming that they might elect such a man.
If they elected a man who had palmed himself off as
having been an officer in the service of the East India
Company, and that he had, on one occasion, com-
manded a battery of four guns, and yet they could
not find that an officer of the name had ever been
in the service, and that the exploit had
never come off.—(Laughter.) Suppose they elected a
drunkard—a person slovenly in his habits and unfit
to transact their business—suppose they elected such
a man, who was to discharge him ?—(Several voices,
" The members.") Suppose they elected a man who
systematically abused the directors, and in addition
was possessed of all these amiable characteristics,
he would not unlikely continue in the service to the
injury of the institution, for who would attend to
complaints, whether from the directors or the mem-
bers, when, if the rules were altered as suggested,
such matters would, in the words of the adage, be
" everybody and nobody's business ?"—(Hear.)
If they carried the proposition, the association would
soon be a mass of ruin, and he begged of them not to
peril the solid and well-founded structure which they
had erected for any castles that the imaginations of
some of them might suggest, however beautiful.—
(Cheers.) He hoped, therefore, they would join him
in negativing the proposition, and convince discarded
officers that they would not be permitted to gratify
their revenge with impunity at a general meeting of
the members.—(Hear, hear.) He believed, whoever
they might be, they would never be able to injure or
blacken the characters of the zealous, honourable,
and indefatigable body of men whom they had
selected to manage their affairs.—(Cheers.)
Mr. REYNOLDS could not but think that the gentle-
men who called them together that evening had illus-
trated the old adage which said, " Never do that of
which you have not well considered the end." He
trusted the results, whatever they might be, would
not eventually prove the destruction of the society.
—(Hear, hear.) If the members determined
to make the secretary a master instead of a
servant, whose duty it was to carry out the commands
of the board of directors, they would either have to
submit to his dictation, or bring every matter of
detail before a general meeting. Such a proceeding
might make the society, perhaps, the best customer
the proprietors of the tavern could have, but could
not fail to bring ruin upon the institution. If the
present directors resigned, he would not deny that
an equally efficient body might be elected in their
place ; but what man of standing in the city of
London would consent to take office if this resolution
was passed ?—(Hear, hear.) There were,three parties
to be considered in settling the question before them—
the members—the board of management—and lastly,
but not least, the numerous body of persons upon
whose good opinion the success of the society mainly
depended—he meant the clerks of the United King-
dom.—(Cheers.) That class, taken as a body,
possessed a tolerable share of common sense, and
could they doubt that, in exercising that common
sense, they would hesitate to invest their hard-
earned savings in an association that was a
prey to continual dissensions ? (Hear, hear.)
What would be the consequence? He denied the
po,•sibility of their getting a new board together
under such circumstances, and the end would be that
there would be nothing but dismemberment, confu-
sion, and ruin.—(Hear, hear.) After having toiled
for a length of time, and he was aware of the difficul-
ties which they had been obliged to encounter, their
labours had been crowned with success. There was
being continued, and
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hthevessel in which they
all had embarked against a rock, and peril the vitality
of the institution.—(Hear, hear.) This was but
another illustration of great events and little causes,
the circumstance which gave rise to the present pro-
ceedings being only the dismissal of one of the ser-
vants o the association by a resolution of the board
of management, who, he had no hesitation in saying,
had exercised a very sound discretion.—(Hear, hear.)
He held in his hand a letter, which, no doubt,
was in the possession of most of the members,
dated from the King's Head, Poultry, Feb. 3, 1849,
and requesting the attendance of members at a meet-
ing to be held there. It was signed "E. I. Burt,
Hon. Sec.," and was it to be taken that he signed
himself as Hon. Sec. to the Provident Clerks' Asso-
ciation ?—(Cries of " No.") Then they might
perhaps conceive him to be Hon. Sec. to the King's
Head.—(Laughter.) At any rate any unbiassed
person and a stranger would judge from that signa-
ture that he was secretary to the association, and he
would ask when, where, and by whom was he ap-
pointed ? He could not but characterise that as a de-
signation which Mr. Burt had no right to assume.
He should sincerely grieve if the resolution were
passed, because he could only look upon such a result
as the death, warrant of the association.—(Hear, hear.)
Tey would soon cease to exist, an inquest would be
held upon their remains by the public, and the ver-
dict would assuredly be felo de se.--(Laughter.)

Dr. MULLINDER (the-late secretary) next addressed
the meeting, and entered into a lengthened defence of
his own conduct, in reply to the different statements
which had been made with respect to his dismissal ;
but as a great portion of it involved matters of a
personal nature, we confine our report to such remarks
as appeared to bear upon the main question. He
said when he first joined the association, in March,
1845, it was not in a fit state to be worked, the in-
come at that period being only 1,6001., and the
amount invested 1,1001.—(11ear, hear.) The yearly
income was now between 9,000/. and 10,0001., the
amount invested 15,0001., and about 8,0001. had been
paid on claims since he held the office of secretary.—
(Cheers, and some interruption.) In the first year
of his connexion with it the policies for the previous
quarter amounted only to eleven ; and the secretary
who preceded him only held the situation six weeks,
because he found it impossible to make headway
under such a state of things. In July, 1845, a
society was set on foot for the benefit of bankers'
clerks, but, through great exertions on his part, he
stopped its progress, and threw a great number of
additional members into this association.—(Hear,
hear.) From that period he had never ceased in
his exertions to carry out the truly great and
grand principles of the Provident Clerks, and he
now openly avowed his belief that it had not its equal
in the three kingdoms, if properly carried out.—
(Cheers.) And as a token of regard for the services
he rendered, he had the pleasure and gratifica-
tion of receiving a handsome snuff box from
the hands of the former Chairman, Mr. Thomas.—
(Hear, hear.) After challenging the board to prove
that they had for the last four years, individually or
collectively, and through their direct influence, intro-
duced as many as 40 policies, he alluded to the
success which had attended the deputations to pro-
vincial towns, and said that they had been undertaken
at his suggestion. At the general meeting in 1847,
a member, he said, got up and proposed that he
should receive a gratuity of one hundred guineas,
and that there should be a rise in his salary of 1001.,
but the Board had only met that suggestion halfway,
and given him a gratuity of 50 guineas, and an addi-
tion to his salary of 50/.—(Oh, oh, and shame.)
When he was treated in that way they might easily
imagine that it did not tend to sweeten a disposition
which was naturally bilious and irritable.—(Laughter
and hear, hear.) But they should recollect that " to
err is human, to forgive divine."—(Laughter and
cheers.) Having alluded to a previous dismissal and
reinstatement, he adverted to certain illegal acts
which he said the directors had been guilty of in
lending from the assurance to the benevolent fund
7,00/., when the latter fell short of the demands
upon it. Instead of doing that, which was contrary
to the Act of Parliament, they should have applied to
the trustees to sell out a portion of the society's stock.
The directors had an interview with Mr. Tidd Pratt on
the subject, and he entirely concurred in the view
taken by him (Dr. Mullinder), telling them that they
had got into a terrible mess—that they had set Acts
of Parliament at defiance, and that if they pursued
such a course, there was nothing to prevent dabbling
in railway shares with the property of the associa-
tion.—(Hear, hear.) The Chairman then made use
of the expression, " I hope you won't lodge an infor-
m hear.) infor-
mation against us."—(Hear, That circum-
stance did not tend to smooth his course with the
directors, and after the annual meeting in January
last an occurrence took place which still further
widened the breach between them, and ultimately led
to his final dismissal. After giving the particulars of it
in detail, he asked, had any one of the members
found him at any time uncivil, uncourteous, or unfit
for his duty, or unable to perform it.—(No, no.)
Having presented them with a few candid and truth-
ful statements, he appealed not to their passions, but to
their judgment, and requested of them to say whether
or not he had discharged his duties honestly and fairly,
and with a sincere and heartfelt desire to promote the
interests of the members at large ?—(Cheers.) If he
had failed in anything, they should bear in mind
that all men were at times liable to err, and he would
beg of them to couple with that fact his most candid
assurance that his intentions had always been good.—
(Cheers.) If he had been guilty of any indiscretion,
had he not met with a greater amount of punishment
than the crime deserved?—(Hear, hear.) It was no
ordinary position to hold the office of secretary to the
Provident Clerks.—(Hear.) He had been called upon
quite unexpectedly to give this explanation, but
having given as fair and candid an account as possible,
he left the matter in their hands, confidently resting
upon their good sense and judgment.—(Hear.)
A MEMBER said, the personal narrative they had
just heard had no reference to the motion before the
meeting. The question was, whether they should

rescind the rule giving the directors power to appoint
certain officers, and reserve that power to themselves
at a general meeting. They had hitherto gone on
prosperously, and if they placed a gentleman in the
position of secretary who was opposed to the board,
what prospect had they of the future success of the
association ?—(Hear, hear.) He should vote with
the committee, but he should have been glad if the
appointment of auditors had bean left to the general
meeting, and not to the assembly.—(Hear, hear.)
The CHAIRMAN said the resolution could not be
altered now, but as regarded the auditors, the directors
would have no objection, on some future occasion, to
obtain the views of the members on that subject.—
(Cheers.) With respect to the secretary, he knew
full well (they were the last words Le uttered)
that the board of managers had been his best
friends.—(Loud cheers.) He could assure them
that that was the case. They had shown great
forbearance to him, and had overlooked his
faults until they became frequent, and were of
that character which made it their imperative duty
to exercise the trust which was imposed in them
for the appointment and dismissal of officers. It was
with great regret that he was compelled to make that
assertion.—(Hear, hear.) IN ith regard to the
balance-sheet, he said it was not customary to print
it, but that any member who chose to apply at the
office would be allowed to inspect the accounts.—
(Hear, hear.) If it was, however, the wish of the
meeting, the directors would be happy to furnish each
member with a printed copy.—(Hear, hear.) The
board of managers consulted with the solicitors, and
upon their advice had they acted.—(Hear, hear.)
With respect to the amount of salary due when Dr.
Mullinder was dismissed, the board could have no
objection to do anything the meeting might suggest,
and if the meeting had advised the addition of 501. or
even 1001., they would have no objection to accede to it.
(Hear) The Chairman then referred to a letter
which had been sent by Dr. Mullinder to a gentleman
at Bristol, detailing the matters contained in his
speech, which was exceedingly long, and which he
(the Chairman) considered was not altogether true.
—(i.outi cries of " No, no, no," and " Read,
read.") [The document was here read, but was
a mere resume of Dr. Mullinder's explanation.]
The main point which the directors had to set the
meeting right upon was their funds. During the
past year they had had an unusual number of claims
for loans from the benevolent department. Their
great desire was that each of the applicants should
have what he required, as a temporary loan ; being
under the same management, although the accounts
were kept distinct and separate, the loan was made as
required, charging 4} per cent. for it. In the last
year 105 of the benefit members had availed them-
selves of those loans, amounting to the sum of 2,2311.
in:the whole ; so that the members had benefited from
it.—(Hear, hear.) During the same period ten only
of the members of the benevolent department had
loans granted to them, amounting to 198/.; so that, in
fact, if the directors had done wrong, the benefit
members had had the advantage of it.—(Hear.) The
directors had felt.it theiriduty to submit a case to Mr.
Tidd Pradt, the barrister appointed to examine
and certify the rules relating to friendly societies.
The case, so submitted to him, stated that during the
past year 105 members of the benefit assurance de-
partment had availed themselves of the privilege of
temporary loans for various sums, amounting in the
whole to 2,231/., and during the same period ten
members of the benevolent department had also had
loans granted, amounting to 1981. In consequence
of the continued demand for assistance in this way,
and the funds at the disposal of the benevolent de-
partment not being sufficient to meet them, the board
of management, rather than cause a serious impedi-
ment to the combined objects of the association, had,
from time to time, advanced from the benefit depart-
ment to the benevolent department, by way of loan,
various sums, forming a balance of about 7001,
bearing interest at 4 per cent., retaining as
security for the same the promissory notes of '
the borrowers, with two sureties, amounting
to about 2,4001., together with various policies
nominated to the chairman as collateral security, in
addition to which the board believed the invested
fund of the benevolent department could always be
made available for debts. At the annual meeting of
the association on the 15th of January the balance-
sheet showed this loan, and no objection was
raised thereto ; but on the 22d January a requisition
for a special general meeting, dated on the 20th of
the same month, having been presented to the board
of management stating, among other points to be dis-
cussed, " whether the board of management had
strictly conformed to the requirements of the several
Acts of Parliament regulating friendly societies, re-
lative to the disposal of the funds belonging to the
association ; and whether the interests of each indi-
vidual member had net been placed in considerable
danger by the acts of the present board of manage-
ment, and still remained so, with the possibility of
the enrolment and other privileges being
annihilated by the officers of the Crown—'
Mr. Tidd Pratt's opinion was requested, whether the
board of management bad by making those loans to
the benevolent department so endangered the Interest
of each individual member as to render it probable
that the officers of the Crown would annihilate the
enrolment and other privileges of the association ? To
this query Mr. Tidd Pratt, on the 3d of February
inst., replied—" I am of opinion that the board of
management have not by making these loans to the
benevolent department in any way endangered the
interests of each individual member—(Cheers)—and
that the officers of the Crown would have no right,
and could not in any way interfere so as to anni-
hilate, or rather invalidate, the enrolment and other
privileges of the association."—(Renewed cheers.)
He (the Chairman) believed that was the most essen-
tial point in which the meeting was chiefly interested ;
and he left them to imagine that during the past
fortnight the directors had not felt themselves in
a comfortable position, knowing that so many of the
members must have been misled by the insidious
statement which had been put into their hands.—
(Cheers.) He (the Chairman) knew that their late
Secretary had slandered the directors behind their
backs, while he had praised them to their faces.—
(.' Shame.") Was it manly to damage the characters
of those who held high and important positions in
this city for 33 years ? Was it supposed that they
had no feelings under such circumstances ! Let the
meeting look at each of the members of this board,
and see the situations which they filled ; and was that
no guarantee ? It had been suggested that the di-
rectors should give the members a guarantee. They
would give no such guarantee, not one of the board
would enter into such a subject; their guarantee was
in their characters—(Cheers)—and he (the Chair-
man) defied any body to say that there was a stain
upon his.—(Hear, hear.) He (the Chairman) stated
that letters from G. R. Woodward, Esq., Chairman of
the Local Committee at Bristol, Mr. Gould of Exeter,
and Mr. Wagnall, of Birmingham, had been received,
expressive of their continued confidence in the board
of management, and dissenting from the proposed
alterations.

Dr. MULLINDER put a question to the Chairman
respecting what passed at an interview they had had
with Mr. Tidd Pratt, the exact purport of which was
lost in the disapprobation which it elicited.
The CLIAIRMAN attempted to reply, but he was met
with cries of " Quite sufficient," and he resumed his
seat.

A PERSON in the meeting said they bad come down
there to discuss a distinct proposition, and he would
move as an amendment that all the words, except the
word " auditors," be expunged from the resolution.
—(Cries of " Question," and great disapprobation.)
Could they not pass that resolution with the excep-
tion of certain words ?—(" Put the question.")
The CHAIRMAN intimated that there might be some
doubt whether they could strictly entertain the amend-
ment.

The same person said he simply wanted to know
whether they could pass the resolution with—
(No, no.)
Mr. Wrimcs said that he was not acquainted with
the practice in Parliament, but he knew the usage of
meetings of that kind, and that they must either reject
or adopt the proposition.—(Cheers.)
Mr. COLEMAN said, that by the Friendly Societies'
Act no rule of a society confirmed by a general meet-
ing could be altered or repealed unless at a general
meeting convened by public notice. The position
they stood in then to the requisition was the rescind-
ing of one rule and the substituting another rule for
it. They could not take part of that rule,
and with that explanation ; without throwing any
doubt upon the question, it would be well for them
to put it as a standing motion, as proposed.—(Hear.)
The CHAIRMAN then put the resolution, when the
whole meeting, with the exception of about half a
dozen dissentients, voted for the rules remaining as
they were, amidst much cheering.
The CHAIRMAN then asked if any one moved that
the directors should give security ?—(" No, no," and
laughter.)
Mr. THOMSON IIANHET, jun., read a letter from
Baron Rothschild apologising for his inability to
attend the meeting.
A vote of thanks to the Treasurer and Trustee;
for their attendance, having been passed,
Mr. JOHN ABEL SMITH, M.P., said—l thank you
very kindly in my own name, and in the name of my
friends around me, for the compliment you havke. justdl
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position.--(Cheers.) I am sure, now that it is over,
there is not one gentleman present .ho v.ill
not feel that, however the requisition was
worded, the meeting to-night was meant
to convey a vote of cz.nsure against them. It was with
that feeling, that I, rnd I believe the other gentle-
men also, attended. I have some right to speak on
the subject, for, from the beginning, I have carefully
watched the conduct of those gentlemen, and I have
witnessed their zealous and continued exertions in
the furtherance of the society. I believe that in that
vote of confidence which you have passed with such
singular unanimity you have done no more than a
bare act of justice—(Hear, hear)—and I rejoice that
a feeling of compassion, a feeling of sympathy with
the sufferings of others, has not blinded your sense
of justice for a moment. I rejoice that in this even-
ing's proceedings you have not done that which
would have weakened, if not destroyed, this esta-
blishment; and I trust this temporary interruption of
the harmony of our meeting may be a proof to those
who called it, and to those who are not present, that we
are resolved one and all to unite together in the further-
ance of one common object, and to allow nothing to
destroy that unanimity and that cordiality between
us which is essential to the success of this or any
other institution.—(Cheers.)
Mr. T. HANICET, jun., having been loudly called
upon, also briefly expressed his acknowledgments to
the meeting for their vote of confidence, and inti-
mated that the publication of the proceedings of the
society, would be the best advertisement of the value
of the institution they had ever issued.
Mr. COLEMAN moved, and Mr. QUESTELL se-
conded, a vote of thanks to the Chairman, which was
carried with acclamation.

The CHAIRMAN having acknowledged the compli-
ment, the meeting separated.

COURT CIRCULAR.
WINDSOR, THURSDAY.
Her Majesty walked this morning in the Eastern
Terrace and Slopes.
The Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, the Prince
Alfred, and the Princess Alice, took walking and pony
exercise.

The Princesses Helena and Louisa were taken for
airings in the little Park.
The Royal dinner party at the Castle this evening,
included Lord and Lady Ashley, and Lieut.-Colonel the
Hon. C. B. and Mrs. Phipps.
The band of the Coldstream Guards was in attend-
ance during dinner, and performed the following pieces :
Grand Symphony (No. 5) Mozart.
Homage to the Emperor Nicholas Coote.
Trio,"Evening Shades," Barbersofßossora Hullah.
Quadrilles on Scotch Melodies Jullien.
Serenade, " Bless'd be the Home" Benedict.
Polka, the Princess Louisa Alberta Ketelle.
Yesterday evening the Queen's private band played
the following pieces in the Castle:—
Overture, " L'Eclair"
Quartetto (Op. 12) in E:—Adagio non
troppo allegro non tandante canzonetta.
Allegretto andante, expressivo molto
allo e vivace. Two violins, ♦iola, and
violoncello. Messrs. Sainton, C. Chipp,
Hill, and H. Chipp Mendelssohn
Selection, "Fra Diavolo Auber.
Nlarien Walzer

The Queen will hold a Privy Council on Tuesday
next, the 13th February, at Buckingham Palace. It is
expected that the Sheriffs for the present year, for the
different counties of Eugland and Wales, will be appointed
at the Council.

A Cabinet Council was held yesterday afternoon,
at the Foreign-office. The Ministers present were—
Lord John Russell, the Lord Chancellor, the Marquis of
Lans,lowne, the Earl of Minto, Sir George Grey, Vis-
count Palmerston, Earl Grey, the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, Sir Francis Baring, Lord Campbell, the
Right Hon. H. Labouchere, the Marquis of Clauri-
carde, and the Earl of Carlisle. The Council sat ono
hour and a hale.

A deputation consisting of Mr. Lockett, deputy from
the Liverpool Shipowners' Association; Mr. Barber,
deputy from the American Chamber of Commerce, Li-
verpool; Mr. Johnston, deputy from the Brazilian Asso-
ciation of Liverpool; Mr. Dawson, deputy from the
African Association of Liverpool; and Mr. Carson, Se-
cretary to the Liverpool Shipowners' Association, had
an interview with the Right Hon. IL Labouchere yes-
terday, at the office of the Board of trade. The depu-
tation was accompanied by Mr. Cardwell, M. P., and
Sir Thomas Birch, M.P.

The Ecclesiastical Commissioners for England had a
general meeting yesterday.
Mr. Alexander George Gray, of Newcastle-upon-
Tyne, had an interview with Sir George Grey yesterday
at the Home-office.

Mr. Owen Stanley had an interview with the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer yesterday at his official residence
in Downing. street.
A deputation, consisting of Mr. Moffatt, M.P., Mr.
Tindall, Mr. Bell, Mr. Christian, Mr. Frith, and Mr.
Travers, had an interview with the Vice• President of
the Board of Trade yesterday, on the subject of the use
of chicory in the adulteration of coffee.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
TATTERSALL'S.—YESTERDAY.
Tho betting yesterday was remarkably dull, and the
alterations, with the exception of a decline in the Tartar
for the Chester Cup, and the elevation of Lugar to the
premiership for the Metropolitan Handicap, altogether
unimportant. We give the market prices at the close:—
LIVERPOOL STEEPLECHASE.
10 to 1 agst Mr. Brettle's The Curate
I 2 to 1 agst Mr. 'l'. Mason's Prince George
16 to 1 agst Captain D'Arcy's Knight of Gwynno
22 to I agst Mr. Coghlan na Edward the First—t
25 to 1 agst Mr. Buchanan's Alfred—taken
25 to 1 agst Mr. J. Bateman's Napoleon—taken
30 to 1 agst Mr. Harrison's Venom—taken
METROPOLITAN HANDICAP.
10 10 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Lugar
11 to 1 agst Lord Stanley's Canezuu taken and
afterwards offered
14 to I agst Mr. Gregory's Loupgarou—taken
16 to 1 agst Mr. Greville's Clarissa—taken
25 to 1 agst Mr. Osbaldeston's Fugleman—taken
CHESTER CUP.
sto 1 agst Mr. John Day's lot—taken
20 to 1 agst Mr. J. B. Day's The Tartar—taken and
afterwards offered
25 to 1 agst Mr. F. Clarke's Joc o'Sot—taken
50 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Lady Wildair
taken freely
50 to 1 agst Lord Howth's Peep-o'-Day Boy—taken
50 to 1 agst Mr. M. Blake's Ballinafad—taken and
afterwards offered
50 to 1 agst Mr. Maughan's Rathmines
1,000 to 15 agst Lord Eglinton's Eagle's Plume
DERBY
14 to 1 agst Lord Clifden's Honeycomb
2,000 to 40 agst Mr. W. Jones's Magician—taken
50 to 1 agst Duke of Rutland's c out of Flambeau'e
dam—taken to 80/.
1,000 to 15 agst Duke of Bedford's Newport—taken
LIVERPOOL SPRING MEETING.
Handicap for the Liverpool Spring Cup, 5 ft if de-
clared on or before the 10th instant.
Mogador, 5 yrs, Bst 71b—Fireaway, aged, 7st 121 b
—Ellerslie' 4 yrs, 7st 91b—Farewell, 4 yrs, 7st 51b—
Lamb's Wool, 4 yrs, 7st Ilb—Prince Charlie, 4 yrs,
6st 111b—Caledon, 4 yrs, Est 81b—Reality, 4 yrs, Est
71b—Ada Mary, 3 yrs, sst 111b—Pelham, 3 yrs, 5s 91b
—Rodney, 3 yrs, 3 yrs, 4st 121b—B1. f. by
Touchstone out of Mickleton Maid, 3 yrs, 4st 81b—
Clifford, 3 yrs, 4st Bib.
The Sefton Welter Cup Handicap, 5 ft if declared on
Saturday.
Teresa, aged, Ilst 71b—Subduer, aged, list 71b—
Peter Simple, aged, list 41b—Postilion, 4 yrs, Ilst 2.1 b
Prince Charlie, 4 yrs, lOst 91b Rodney, 3 yrs,
Bst 41b.
NEWMARKET COURSING MEETING.
FRIDAY.
The Oaks.—First Ties.
Mirth beat Verbena (drawn).
Second Ties.
Moreen beat Fly—Olinda beat Mirth.
The Port Stakes.—First Ties.
Fancy beat :Rattle—Diamond beat Rutilla—Brush
beat Minor—Blucher beat Great Western.
The Derby.—Second Ties.
Rex beat Desperate—Locomotive beat Baron.
The Cup.—Second Ties.
Bridesmaid beat Lavender—Fancy beat Alderman.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE 5U.417.
Sia,—ln your paper of to-day lam reported as hav-
ing said that I had no objection to the proposed Select
Committee on the Irish Poor-law, provided the name of
the Hon. Member for Manchester, Mr. Bright, were
omitted. On the contrary, my objection was to his
name having been excluded from the list, and I gave
notice that I sheuld to-morrow move that it be added to
the Committee.

I shall Feel obliged by your correcting this error in
your next publication, and remain, Sir, your most obe-
dient, A. HENRY.
Reform Club, Feb. S.
[The error was corrected in a subsequent report.—
ED. Sun.]

ALEXANDER MACKAY'S " WESTERN WORLD."—
We think we do not err in characterising this new
production, as, in sonic respects, our best work on the
United ;States. The author has enjoyed opportunities
of studying the social and political life of the American
r eople, greatly superior to those of any
attemptedother popular
this
English writer who has, of late years,
theme. .A residence of some years in the Transalantic
Republic, and of several months at Washington, during
that political epoch when the Oregon negotiations were
verging towards their conclusion, on which occasion he
enjoyed throughout a familiar intercourse with the
chiefs of both Houses of Congress;
t and, with many in
timately connected with the Government,
such are the advantages which Mr.xetive
to _the performance of his Mackay-- has brought
t a sk.—Morning Chronicle, interesting and responsible
GAMBLING FOR A VOTE.--A chiffonier, named
Braillon, was on Saturday
damages, sentenced to three months'
li-ntly assaulted a =ages, for having so;,vio-
Before the election companionof asto
place his life in danger.
partisan of Louis Na President the prisoner was a great
piquet with the
complainant, who was a Cavaignae man,
as to which should
h give his Note to the other. The
prisoner won, but complainant declared that ho had
only played for fun,t the
would not give his vote to the
prisoner's candidate. Thereupon the chiffonier became
furious, andhis professional hook struck com-
plainant a blow withon the head which felled him to the
ground.—Galignalli.

THE FIRST LORD OF THE AD.
MIRALTY AT PORTSMOUTH.
We extract from the Hampshire Guardian the follow-
ing passages in that journal's report of the speeches of
the Right Hon. Sir F. T. Baring, Bart., delivered at the
meeting of his constituents at Portsmouth on Monday,
and his re-election on the following day:—
On Monday Sir Francis said Be had learnt not to
be afraid of the people of the borough, and of telling
them his mind and his intentions.—(Cheers.) The meet-
ing be now had with his friends was to him an unex-
pected pleasure; for when he was in that room a few
months ago, attending the anniversary of one of the
noblest institutionsin England, he little thought then that
he should hold office in so short a space of time. He was
not fond of office—he might have held it sooner had he
wished; but when he was called upon, and when he con-
sidered that he had been a public man for so many years
of his life, and had been in connexion with one party of
political friends during all that time, he thought it his
duty not to refuse the office that was offered to him.
He knew that men often over-rated their capabilities,
and that the world was better able to form a correct es-
timate of them than themselves ; that meeting would,
therefore, assist him i❑ ascertaining whether he had
acted judiciously in accepting office. From his own
personal feelings he might have been induced to study
his ease and comfort, and to retire from the cares and
responsibilities of office ; for ho was not a man much
inclined to bear the rubs of harness. He hoped by the
course he had adopted that he had not sacrificed their
confidence and support. He knew there were some
peculiar difficulties attending the holding by a member
of a seaport town such an office as that to which he
had been appointed. He, however, should not shrink
from the impartial discharge of his duty, and he was sa-
tisfied they would not grumble with him for impartially
discharging it. In drawing up his address he thought
that was one of the first things he should mention; he had,
therefore, told them his opinions and views on the matter.
lie did not wish to deceive them, and ho thought his op-
ponents would give him credit for never having sought
to do so. There was one thing that had been mentioned
to him that day, and which had been alluded to in one
of the local papers. (The Hon. Baronet was here un-
derstood to refer to a letter, signed " An Elector," that
appeared in the Hampshire Guardian of the 24th ult.)
He meant the belief that he held a political pension. In
olden times there were sinecures with pensions attached,
but these sinecures had been abolished, and very pro-
perly so. Pensions, however, for political services were
still retained, and some persons thought that even these
should be abolished. But his answer was, that it was
very well for the rich man, who made no sacrifice, to re-
tire from office without any public support or pension;
but if you took a lawyer, or a gentleman in
any other profession, and put him in an office, out
of which ho may be thrown at a moment's notice,
they should make some allowance for the man
when his retirement from office takes place, for he
has, probably, given up a connexion of his
own, and one which he cannot afterwards recover,
should he so wish. One effect of their not making this
allowance would be, that no man would be able to take
office but those who possessed a fortune. For this reason
it was thought proper to give pensions for the faithful
discharge of political services. But to prevent pensions
being improperly granted, a regulation was laid down by,
Parliament that no person should be entitled to a pen-
sion but who could make a declaration that he stood in
need of it. Now he would be entitled to a pension, but
be could not say tkat he required it.—(Laughter.)
And he was not sorry on that account.—(Laughter.)
He thought it would be an unwise thing to deprive
public office of all emolument, for the consequence would
be that no one would then be able to fill office but the
rich. The Crown should be able to say to the poor man
as well as to the rich, " The door is open to you." On
that occasion he should not enter into a considera-
tion of political questions, but would leave them for the
day of election. He should not be able to give them any
information as to the general intentions of the Govern-
ment. They had read her Majesty's Speech, and knew
what motions were likely to be brought forward as well
as himself. There was not much secrecy in the govern-
ment of this country. As soon as the Ministers had de-
cided to bring any measure forward they announced it
in the House; and as soon as it was so announced, the
gentlemen (the reporters) near him knew it, and then,
however great a secret it might have been before, it
was one no longer, for they had a remarkable talent of
telling it to the world."

At the hustings on Tuesday:Sir Francis said:—
" The Crown had conferred upon him an office of the
highest trust, but he came back to them with the
same opinions as of old, and not with any new
ones. He had not deserted his old friends—he
had no new words to speak ; but he came
to them under his ancient colours, and with the
same faith as he had ever held. He came to them again
because he hoped his labours might not be entirely
useless to his Sovereign, that he might still be able to
advocate the opinions he had always supported, and as.
sist the friends with whom ho had always acted. When
the present Government took office, the time was consi-
dered to be very favourable to them, and that they ware
not likely to meet with any serious difficulties in admi-
nistering the affairs of the country. He recollected it
was the common talk at the time that as the corn-laws
were disposed of, all would go on in a quiet and smooth
manner. But how little could the politician look into
futurity; how little could he say as to what would
happen on the morrow. First came the failure of the
potato crop, which caused an immense amount of suffering
among the lower classes, and which required the
adoption of extraordinary remedies in order to save
nearly the whole population of Ireland from star-
vation. Other misfortunes had befallen that country;
but ho would wish not to be misunderstood. In old times
they could only find a good man in their own party, and
believed that those of the opposite were not to be trusted,
and that nothing useful or just could emanate from
them. He did not entertain that opinion: ho thought
that to be the wisest statesman who committed the
fewest blunders—(Laughter)--and who, when he had
made a mistake, lost no time in repairing it. He was
not there to tell them that all that the present Govern-
ment had done was to be entirely approved of, and that
there were not some things- that might have been done
better had they been done differently. But it was easy
to be wise after the event, and to say that such a thing
should have been done this way instead of that. With
regard to the navigation-laws, he thought no one could be
in doubt as to what opinion he entertained. During the
past session he had voted for free-trade measures, and
throughout his whole career he had, without exception,
voted in favour of what were termed free-trade measures.
But on questions of a doubtful character he kad always
considered ho had the right of using his own discretion
in the matter, and if he himself were disposed to go
further than others, but saw that there was no prospect
of carrying out his views to their full extent, he thought
he acted discreetly by not engaging in a forlorn hope.—
(Laughter.) lie thought a man was not justified in re-
fusing half a loaf because he could not procure a whole
one. He, therefore, thought those men were acting mis-
cnievously who sought to prevent people taking mode-
rate measures of reform because they could not get all
they wanted. He had been a good deal connected with
the financial matters of this country, and they would not
be surprised when he repeated, what he had on
former occasions told them, that ' economy' was
not a popular word at Portsmouth. But he felt
convinced the time must come when they
would have to look closely into their expenditure,
and reducd it to the lowest point consistent with a due
regard to their security. The usual routine had been to
spend like gentlemen when their income was large, and
to go into the other extreme when it fell off. He had
belonged to a Committee of the House for inquiring into
the naval expenditure of the country, and he had seen
much reason for regret at the heavy expenditure on un-
necessary works. But it was not the Government that
was entirely to blame for these things ; we may regret
the expense, but if we do not prevent it, then it is our-
selves who are to blame. A Government was just what
the people made them: If the people called out for ex-
penditure, the Members of the House of Commons would
do the same, and Governmentthat
a lara
large
haumes ;opuagive
wouldi in .
ttboe
partly
opinion. There might be an old Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer who would indulge in an cceasional grumble, but
no heed would be taken of him, and then when the money
ells spent they were surprised what a little bad been doneAs
with it; for his part he was surprised it went so far. As
to the spending of the money, ho believed it was done_
with honest intentions, and that
appropriated by Government, and that sotbmee,g d
might have
have been effected by it; but he thought it had beenoop_rorpilgrblyt
edonereet quiteerected
w h
iaeshmwuecrhe
on goodneo
ewsistabr,le_s 1; x
pB had, been
eriments had taken
place which had been of no use; by these and such
as
moneyui r cuur
e, meansha had
been had no doubt but
been misemployed. But during
Govern-
ment had loboek
theyiwould ableo tveryom closely
v reductions,el_rnatlothe
mize
be might
of unnecessary works and
s fol-th e future. This
eff effected ttehde by publicthe abandonmentefdu d
theuch etoounbtery
regretted w e
t uld not be sa-
'fi eel Ile had a grea ove for economy, but he
saaysmthaalltrtebdeuecflitioenieninc;heef ptrhces esnetr vfioc ree eRs:O
en •
thought that a very bad economy to which the security
e sacrificed.vvas,
that One
one
andyat hneiadnrgit
ihtlher there would be a squandering of the public mone
ew
anothershtiac stability
iwt
yatshoitsm* would be succeeded h y an_ unduey
retrenchment ; and
ethxaptensethsosoer
tpheersoonnes
agitated for the equal unwise hadn"' frequently happened
urged the unwise
expenses whoeanrt wereeco
economy
yv very persons
he other.
r
their kindness and good feeling towards him be could
offer little return. Whatever he could do for them
with a due regard to the impartial discharge of his
duties, he should be mpst happy to do—anything more
than that he would not insuL them by offering. On
these terms he would still endeavour to represent their
Opinions ; and, at the same, to place what abilities he
possessed at the service of his country. They need
not suppose he was not aware of the difficulties of the
post he was assuming."

SOUTHAMPTON, FRIDAY, ELEVEN A.m.—Our ad-
vices from Havre of last evening, just received by
steamer, mention that the Cotton Market was active.
Sales on Wednesday 3,000 bales; and Thursday 300
bales, at a rise of lf. The New York packet of the
20th ult. was just signalled off Havre.
SCOTCH Law.—A curious railway case will be
presently before the Courts. Founding on a Scotch Act
of 1685, the town of Linlithgow claims toll dues from
the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway, the line of which
passes through their territory. The town offered to
take 1,0001. for the years 1842-3, which the railway de-
clined. On being taken to the Court of Session, the
outer and inner courts decided in favour of the charge;
the case was then appealed to the House of Lords, but
judgment was postponed till all the Judges of the Court
of Session should give the-ir opinion, which will be done
without much further delay: On the general question of
road reform, Edinburgh is retrograding, the county
trustees having ordered the erection of a new check-bar
within the precincts of the city.—Berwick and Kelso
Warder.

lIKPERI,

AMEN T.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Feb. 8.
The L•RD Clusimizoa took his seat on the Wool-
sack at Five o'clock.
TRANSPORTATION.
Lord CAMPBELL introduced a Bill for the abolition
of the punishment of transportation for the crime of
simple larceny, which was read a first time. The Noble
Lord also laid upon the table certain returns showing the
recent convictions which had taken place of persons
charged with the same crime.
ENGROSSING BILLS.
The LORD CHANCELLOR informed the House
that the Committee appointed to consider the system of
engrossing Bills with a view to its amendment had met
end agreed to a report, which he begged to lay upon
their Lordships' table.
On the motion of the NOBLZ Lent) the report was
ordered to be printed.
REAL ESTATES.

Lord BROUGHAM introduced a Bill to facilitate the
sale and sonveyanes of real estates, whish was read a
trst time.

HIGHWAYS.
Mall ST. GERMANS wished to know from the
114ifble President of the Council, whether it was the in-
t•attion of her Majesty's Government to introduce any
Bill this session for improving or amending the law re-
lating to the management of highways?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said th• subject,
although a very complicated one, at present engaged the
serious attention of the Home-office, and a Bill was in
preparation, if it had not actually been introduced into
the other House.

EDUCATION. I
In reply to a question from Lord STANLEY,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said the correspond.
encp which had been going on between the Governmen
And the National Society on the subject of the educe.
tional grants had not yet been brought to a close.

IRI;11 POOR LAW.

Lord FARNHASI presented a petition from the
grand jury of Roscommon, praying for an amendment
of the Irish Poor•law.

The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL presented a petition
to the same effect.

RETURNS.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid upon the table
returns connected with the Marshalsea and Palace
Courts, and papers relating to the expenses of the Dublin
police, and of the Ecclesiastical Commission.
NAVIGATION. LAWS.
In reply to a question from Earl WALDEGRAVE,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, in consequence
of the Earl of Hardwick, who bad accepted a command,
and other Noble Lords who were members of the Com-
mittee appointed last session on the navigation-laws,
being absent, it was not his intention to move; for the
renewal of that Committee, but if any other Noble Lord
thought proper to move it he did not think he should
feel it to be his duty to oppose the motion.
Lord BROUGHAM wished to correct an erroneous
impression which had gone abroad, that Lord Hard-
wick had obtained his command through his influence
in the Government. It was no such thing. The Noble
Earl had obtained his promoti-,n entirely through merit,
and not by the influence of the Government.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE bagged to confirm
what had fallen from the Noble and Learned Lord. The
c,rnuaard of his ship had been given to Lord Hard-
wick because his services and the rules of the profes-
sion entitled him to the promotion. Their Lurdships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 8.
The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before Four

NEW -MEMBER.
Mr. Li. WILLYAMS took thc oaths and hi 3 seat for
Truro.

THE ADDRESS.

Mr. LAscELLEs, the Comptroller of the Royal House-
11,1d, appeared at the bar, and stated that her
Majesty had been pleased to return the following
most gracions an,wer to the Address :—" I thank you
for your loyal and dutiful address, and I rely with con-
fidence on your el-operation with me in advancing the
welfare arid haipiness of my people, whose interest it is
my constant care to pry mote."
- • EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWAY.

-BIZOTHERTON moved that in the ease of the
Eastern Counties Railway Company and Newmarket
Railway Company Amalgamation Bill, the standing
Order, No. 150, be dispensed with; and that leave be
girt' to present the peiiiion fbr the Bill, notwithstand-
ing the saincvin3 not presented within three clear days
after the first sitting of the House, subsequent to the en-
dorsement of the said petition by the examiaer.—
.Aieed to,
COMMITTEE OF SELECTION.
Mr. WILSON PATTEN nominated the Committee
of -Selection as follows:—&r Robert Ferguson, Mr.
Greene, Mr. Sotlieron, Mr. Evelyn Denison, and the
Chairman of the Committee on Standing Orders.
EDINBURGH AND NORTHERN- RAILWAY.
Mr, FOX MAULE moved that the Edinburgh and
Northern Rail Ways Bills (A, B, and C), and the petition
of proprietors of theHalbeath and Tuwnhill Railways,
against the s-me, be referred to the Select Committee on
Stancliner Orders.—Agreed to.
INTERNATIONAL ARBITRATION.

Mr. WARD presented two pt,titions from a Unitarian
body at Shrfiseld in F.vrur of international arbitration.

COMMI fTEE OF ELECTIONS.

The following Meiiihers were sworn at the table to
form the,Gimeral C. inmittee of Eleetioni:—Mr. F. Menlo
( imitnavi). Mr. Thernely, Sir G. Clerk, Sir J. Yarde
Btiller, Sir IZub,,r; RTguiod, and Mr. Wilson Patten.
The Committee will met at three o'clock to-morrow.