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BEER BILL.

The report of the above Bill was farther considered.
Lord SUFFIELD wished to say a few words, because
he appeared to have been misur.derstood on a former
evening. Ile did nor wish to eive additional powers to
Magistrates under this Act. with respect to the prevention
of unlawful gaining and other abuses ; but his object was
to ascertain clearly, and to cause to be generally understood,
the effect and operation of the law as it now stood. His
opinio❑ was, that Magistrates bad the power, under the
law, to prohibit the practice of unlawful games, and lie was
glad to find that his opinion had been borne out by that
of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack. He
knew, however, that some Illitgistrates doubted their
Power, under the new Act, and be wished to have the
matter clearly d• fined.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he could only repeat
the opinion he had formerly given. If the power were
°tit given by the precise and specific words of an Act of
Parliament,. it was given by the terms of the licence. The
person dmitting gaining in his house was liable to a for_
feiture of his licence. He hail recently seen an individual
who had made a .ery extensive tour, and he stated that
the clergy all complained of gambling in those beer
houses, and recommended the provisions of the hear liceoce
and the public-house licence to he assimilated.—(Lord
Nixt.nourtNx said it was so at present.) As that was the
case, it was only necessary that some person should look
after the license, and see that it was not violated.
After 3 few words from Lord SUFFIELD and the Earl of
HAICROWBV, the report was agreed to.
STEAM-BOATS.

A NOBLE Loan presented a petition from the inhabi-
tants of Beauinaris, Bangor, and other places on the
Welch coast, praying that no steam-packet boats should
be allowed to navigate on that line of coast unless they were
licensed, and had it certificate of sa-vvorthiness.
SPRING GUNS.

Lord 111ELBOIIIINE gave notice that he should shortly
introduce a Bill to permit the setting of spring guns in
stack-yards, barns, and other receptacles of corn, uncle:
certain regulations
The public business having Leen gone through, the
LORD CIfANcELLoa proceeded to hear appeals.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, SEPTEMBER IS.
In consequence of there being a ballot for a Committee
on the Feu-11-mike county election, the gallery was got
opened till Half past Four.
Mr. HUNIE presented two petiti;,,ris from places in
Ilampshire and Oxfordshire, complaining of the outeage
committed or} Mr. and Mrs. Deacle.

MARYLEBONE SELECT VESTRY.
Mr. HUME said that he had a petition of great import-
ance to present to the House from John Savage, a pa-
rishioner of Marylebone, complaining of the conduct of the
select vestry of that parish. The petitioner bad refused to
ay the rates illegally imposed by the vestry, and in con-
sequence of that refusal certain Magistrates bad issued a
warrant, without any summons, under u hich his goods
had been seized, and were to be sold to-morrow. He (Mr.
Honor) should explain to the House that a very large por-
tionof the parish had refused to pay thew rates ; but two
ii;cl iviAials had been selected whose goods had been seized.
The goods had been removed out of the parish, and taken
to a sale-room in Marlborough- street. He was not aware,
until this circumstance occurred, that a vestry had the
power of taking the goods out of the parish for sale. If
they could take the goods one mile, they might take them
fifty miles, and such a condition of the law ought not to be
suffered toe4ist for another day. This circumstance hud
caused so much commotion in the parish of Marylebone,
that he had felt it his .itity to give notice to the Secretary
of Sate, that it would be necessary to increase the police
force to morrow, which was the day fixed for the sale, in
order to preserve the peace. He must say that he thought
the Government ought themselves to have taken up this
subject, and not bays allowed a parish of 120,000 in-

PRICE 7D.

habitants to be taxed and governed for so long a period
I.y a self-elected holy of persons. He was one of the
o:u•iskioners who had refused to pay rates, which they had
been advised were illegal, and he was therefore liable to
have his goods seized ; but he should, nevertheless, persist
in his refu.ial.

Mr. WILKS said that if the Magistrates had issued tile
warrant without a summon■ to the petitioner, they had
done what was notoriously illegal, and had subjected them-
selves to an action, which he hoped that the petitioner
would institute against them, as well for his own sake, a*
in consideration of the duty which he owed to the public.
The petition to lie on the table.
LIBERTY OF THE PRESS.

Mr. HUME said be had now a petition to present, to
which he must entreat the attention of his Majesty's Mi-
nisters. It was the petition of William Carpenter, who
was a prisoner in the Court of King's Bench prison, and
whose case was a strong illustration of the injustice and
oppression of the Act 60 George 111. c. 9, which was one
of the Six Acta. He held in his hand a list of the minority
on the passing of that Act, and among the names in the
list he found those of five of the present Cabinet Ministers
and of upwards of thirty of the supporters of the existing
Government. The minority included all the principal
persons of intelligence and liberality who were Members
of tie House of Commons which passed the Act. After
quoting the opinions of Sir James Graham, Sir Timms-
Denman, and others, who spoke upon this question, the
Hon. Member said, that having before him this conduct
and these opinions of the present Ministers and their
support• rs on the occasion of the passing of the Act,
he could not allow himself to doubt that the law would
Iw altered at no very distant period. He did not lou•k
at the question as one of revenue. He could not
allow himself so to look at it when he was sensible that
it involved much higher considerations. He consi •
tiered this law as a check upon the diffusion of knowledge,
and he could view it in no other light. Ignorance was the
hate of the lower orders of this country. who could be
drawn front paths of drunkenness and other vices by no
other means than imparting knowledge to them. He
must say that he deeply regretted that a Whig Adminis-
tration should have bee❑ the first to put men into prison
under this Act. Let him assure the Noble Lord (Al-
thorp) and his colleagues, that noticing was so calculated
to withdraw front them the confidence of the country as
finding that principles which they advocated and conduct
which they pursued while on that (the Opposition) side of
the House were lost sight of and abandoned as soon as they
crossed over to the other side. The petitioner said he
was prepared to prove, that not only had there been no-
ticing of an objectionable tendency published in his .Po-
litical Letter, but that the good advice contained in that
letter had actually prevented the commission of many acts
of violence n Bich were contemplated during the turns-out
in the manufacturiog districts. The petitioner also stated
that his confinement had reduced him, he believed, to his
death-bed, while his wife anti family at home were with-
out the, means of supporting themselves. The prayer of
the petitioner was, that the penalties of 244/. 155., which
had been imposed upon hint might be remitted—since, if
they were enforced, it would amount to perpetual impri-
sonment, and he had already been three months in con-
finement.

Mr. O'CONNELL would not have troubled the House
on this occasion, but that he had teen requested by the
petitioner—who was on a bed of sickness, and whose
health had been ruined by confinement—to support the
prayer of the petition. He entreated Hon. Members and
the Government to recollect that the petitioner had not
he n guilty of publishing blasphemous or seditious doc-
tr:nes; but that his offence was a mere violation of a law
which he did not know that he was violating. Mr. Car-
penter thought that the law was in his favour, but he
had been guilty of no contumacy, and as soon as the
point had been drci,led r.gainst hint by a competent tri•
bunal, he at once stopped the public ition. This conduct
and the unohj,ctionAle nature of the publication, were
surely very strong circumstances in favour of the petitioner,
in whose case the law had been vindicated, who had un-
der4one already no slight punishment for his mistake, and
who, therefore, he (Mr. O'Connell) must take the liberty
of saying, was a person in all respects most deserving of
having the Royal prerogative extended for his relief. He
would only add, that his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) was,
he believed, mistaken upon one point ; for this RSB a pro-
secution under the Stamp Act, and not under the Act
which his Hon. Friend had so justly reprobated.

_ • .
Sir F. BURDETT concurred in all that hid fal4.rn
from the Hon. Member for Middlesex and the 14:on. and
Learned Member for Kerry. It was imposs'ne to deny
that the present state of the law was mo.. mischievous in
stopping the publication of inforrwition which ought to
be accessible to every one, and particularly to the lower
closes. He was sure that the present Government would
lake the earliest opportunity of altering this part of the
law ; and lie was equally confidant that the distressing
case of the petitioner would be taken into the considera-
tion of the Ministers. It bad always been his desire—
a desire which, instead of being abated by time, bad in-
creased with his years arid his exper.ence—it had always.
be said, been his ardent desire to see the Press of this
country placed in a state of perfect and unrestricted
li eedoin.—( Cheers. )
_ _

Air. WARBURTON said that it could hot be too
strongly inipiessed on the Government that Mr. Car-
penter had not been guilty of publishing blasphemous or
seditious matter. The lac; was, that Mr. Carpenter
thought that hit Po:if:cut Letter was not within the
meaning of the Act, and lie determined to try the quer-
titan The object of the publication was in all respects
most laudable, and gentlemen would search is vain for
doctrines of an objectionable tendency. These were the
grounds upon which he earnestly entreated Ins Majesty's
Ministers to take the case of Mr. Carpenter into their
consideration. Ile would only observe, that among other
mischievous =sequences of the present law, it t,llowed
the poieon to he circulated, and stopped the antifsote. The
blasphemous and seditious publications whirh were new
circulated at a penny and twop-nce each, would be met
with successlul refutation, and would be superseded by
tho communication of soon!' and useful knowledge, which
there were plenty of persons willing to publish foe nothing,
if the law would allow them.
¶' e ATTQRNFN-GENERAL was not aware of the
intention of his nom Friend to present this petition to-
day : and it was only by accident that he was in his place.
Sorry, indeed, should he be to interpose one word
tween the merciful exercise of royal prerogative agil per-
son who was in so unfortunate a situatio7, .that into
which the xetitioner had fallen, Vie hail not the least
doubt that the circuinstauctiq t,-.,'aicht had been now stated
would he taken ititt,), ;.nosideration by the Government,
who would 7e;;lcr neglect to do justice to the public, noLie e
tizickward in advising the extension of lenity to .4.64i-
iierving object. But after what had been said upon this
case, he felt it his duty to make one or .t,iir6 ohs rvations
upon it. The fact Has, that he did, 1-1 t institute this pro.
, secution, though he had cayr',4.4 i; on. lie found the pro-
secution instituted he came into office. After the
institution of tlze prosecution, and while he was in o..c.at,
Mn, Cyr mater published a prospectus, in which he de-
;:iared that he could and would evade the i,sor. This
was a tolerably bold declaration of wa.7, and if Mr. Car-
penter had proved successful in '.,ts others would have fol-
lowed his example, and 4 very serious loss to the revenue
would have then :lie result.---(Hear.) He had, therefore,
thought it right to carry on the prosecution. us n waiter
materially affecting the revenue.—(Hear. "a") The sub-
pg,.lia which had been served upon Mr. Carpenter ran in
tt
elicehname
doeff, Gt
Geo. notof Wm. IV., and this
necessary recd;rsd it
that other proceed-
ings should be taken. During the time which tli
elapsed Mr. Carpenter went on publishing his
Letter . lie believed that no gentleman rho was at al
conversant with the law on this su!n.,et, and who had
seen Mr. Carpenter's publicatieza, could doubt fur a mo-
ment that that p&ilicarte.a Caine under the description of a
newspaper. lc, this prosecution it was necessary L, pro-
ceed against Mr. Carpenter for two offenc•,:s against the
statute: the first was, for not using the tegular stamp, and
the other for not making the prescribed'aiffidavit at the
office. By the decision which was given against him, Mr.
Carpenter incurred penalties to the amount of many
thousand pounds, but he (the Attorney-General) had take-i
only One penalty, because the decision of the question, and
not the punishment of tie individual, was kis object__
(Hear, bear)—and he did not, until this moment, know
that Mr. Carpenter was, not in a situation to pay the
penalty. True it was that he had opposed the law of
which his Hun. Friend the Member for Middlesex had
complained, and lie begged to assure his Hon. Friend that
he looked back with pride and satisfaction to that opposi-

'we, But *Lea that law Nay 41 tom- when he Clad tiles
,Ituation whiub he had the honour to bold, and when the
mention became one purely of revenue regulations, his
Hen. Friend must surely see that there wait bet one ecurse
pen to him.—(Hear, hear.) Besides, his Hee. Friend
would not surely have had Mr. Carpenter place l in a
situation which gave him great advantages over all other
tibliehere.—(llw,r, hear.) Let the question of an altera-
tion in this law be brought forward, and his Hon. Friend
itht rest assured that he would do his duty upon it as
independently, and with as much ardour, as any other
Member of that House, and that the circurnstanue of his
tilling the office of Attorney-General would not cause him
to take a part in the discussion which should be iaror-
eistent with the views and principles which be hail advo-
cate I when he resisted the passing of the Isw.—(Cheers.)
Mr. HUNT (if we understood hint rightly) supported
the prayer of the petition.
Mr. M. O'CONNELL was highly pleased at what had
t'allen from the Attorney-General, and trusted that the core
of the petitioner would be taken into favourable considera-
tion without delay.
Lord ALTHORP said, nay Hoe. Friend, the Member
for Middlesex, has mixed up the state and effects of the
!ow wi.h the peculiar circumstances attenhing eke case of
the petitioner. With regard to Mr. Carpenter's case, all
I can say of it at present ie, that if the circumstances
which have been now stated turn out to be correct, I have
no doubt that it will be taken into consideration. With
regard to the law, it was my intention, lout for the course
which the public business has taken, to have brought under
the consideration of the House, in the present session, the
subject of the consolidation of t. e stamp laws. In dealing
with that subject I should have brought under the coterie
aeration of the House the amount and effect of the stamps
at present imposed upon all organs of intelligetme, and I
should have proposed to make certain changes in the lam
with regard to those stamps.—(ll-tar, hear.) I eyed hardly
observe, that, for the present, I am prevented from executing
this intention. My Hoe. Friend (the Member for Middle-
eax) has arid that I imposed the Six Aets. No riot& I did as
eagerly as any other Member, and perhaps more eagerly, fur
I believe that I was the only Metteher who made a distinct
motinn in opposition to those Acts. My Hon. Friend does
me injustice if he supposes either that I have en)selt for-
gotten the part I took upon that occasion, or that I stn de.:
arrous that others should not hear it is mind. I am now, as
I wan then, most anxious that the liberty of the Preeeeheuld
be protected to the utmost possible extent that is consistent
with the prevention of the dieeernination of immree
rarity, and the circulation of private scandal, of attacke
upon the characters of private individuals.—(Cheers.) Ae
us public men, I think that, as far as they are conceroed,
the Press ought to be perfectly free and unrestricted.—
(Cheers.) We, as public men, take our situation in the
face of the public, and put oureelves forward to undertake
the regulation of public matters; and if, in the discharge
of the offices which we thus formally aesume, attacks are
made upon our public conduct, I do not think that ye,
have arty right to complain.—(Cheers.) It is very evliliatts
that I read any attacks that are made on me, because did
not wish to read them. Ido not think it a very egrea.
able occupation to read attacks upon oneself—(Hear, and
a laugh)—,ml therefore if I heard that there were attacks
upon me I avoided reading them. I have now very little
time for reading newspapers,—on little, indeed, that I am
not aware whether I am attacked in them nr not ; but if
I stn, and if those attacks should come under my o!..aiery a-
lion, I hope I should not mind them touch. Sure I am,
however, that my being attacked would not induce no- to
alter my opinion that tie Press t.ught not to be restrained
from the censuring the public conduct of public men.—
(Cheers.) I admit that private individuals ought to are
protected by the law from twine dragged into }mink notices
and having their characters assailed in a news raper ; lint
the prominent position which we assume bef.ere the pnbic,
and the forward line which we put sue in public affairs,
ought, I think, to prevent our complaining, if oar public
conduct is visited with criticisms, and very severe critie
cisme too.—(The Noble Lord set down amidst loud
cheering.)

Mr. E. L. TriLWER (Member for St. Ives) said, that
it was with the greJtest delight that he had beard the
manly and sensible observations wilier, bad fallen front the
Noble Lord. From the speech of the Noble Lord be wag
led to hope, that after the attainment of the great hleksing
of Parliamentary Refo.m, they should have no ereat diffi—
culty in attaining also that farther and greater ble-sing—.
the removal of all restraints upon the circulation
tint opinions, by which removal, and by which Taw ,oval
alone, it was, that all permanent Reform could be vt:e.eced.
(Cheers.) But he hail risen oily for the purvave of Bug-
geating, in favour of the unhappy petitioner, tl',e moderate
' tone and the good tendency of his writings. If gentlemen
publication that tad ti.--en alluded
that it repeatedly exhorted the people
tztttlii,leylouwkouulvderseethe
never to act or speak otherwise than in. a constitutional
manner ; and, above all things,
to 11$datain from violence.
The petition was then ortler':a co he on the table.
THII. CORN LAWS.
three tit
Mr. HUN?
, tornp'ained that he bad been prevented
ttn bringing forward the subject of the corn
es
law": the Reform Bill lasted beyond ten o'clock that
'':
eve-ding, he should then iSr upon Friday week for the dia-
-1 cussion.

On the motion of Mr. O'CorramLx, a gall of the House
was ordered for Monday next.

REFORM IN PARLIAMENT.

Lord ALTHORP moved the order of the day for the
further con,iderivion of the report of the Committee upon
the Reform in Parliament Bill.

Mr. STUART WOR'rLEY wished the Lord Advocate
to state whether the House could rely upon the Scotch
Reform Bill to he read a second tin b.ing precisely tha
Bill which had been printed for the House.
The LORD ADVOCATE could only say that a Bill
which had been read a first time was the only Pill that
could be read a second time. It was intended that the
Scotch Bill should be made to conform witk the altera-.
tions which the English Bill had uadergote in paesing
through the lions&

The SPEAKER then proceeded to read the report of
the Committee, commencing with the list of tx;roughs in
schedule B.

Mr. NISEI' contended aat the towns of Dorch.ster,
Guildford, and Huntingdon. being county twrviia, ought to.
tie removed from arhedule 13, and hare the privilege of re—
turning two Member% to that Howie.

The question that Dorchester stand part of schedule B
was then put and carried, alter a short discu.sien between,
Mr. Denison, Mr. 'Warburton, Sir G. Warm-it/rt., Mr._
Goo'horn, and Mr. S, Wortley.
Upon the que.tion thatGuildlord stand partial schedule B,
Mr. DENISON contended that the town of Guildford,
by the a-nsus of 1821, contained 4,212 inhishicaats, and
that it W4Nentitled to two Members on tke principle of the
Bill. He should feel himself obliged to divide the House
Li; on the subject.

Mr. HERRIES hoped that the Noble Lord would con—
cede this point upon the third re.cling.,
Lord JAHN RUSSELL could, nut allow the Hon.
ntliez wo indulge in any such expectation. The question
114 been fully discussed and decided in the Committee,
.nd the population of GuilJlord was shown to h. lees than
four thousand, unless r. rural population of a neie.bouring
haml••C were to ht; included, contrary to the principles of
the 13111.

The gat ery was then ordered to he cleared for &division,
bo,t atter a few words from i\!.'. linicuts, which were
iretudiole to the reporters, tile question was put sod carried.
without a division.

The towns of tioistont,Great Grimsby, and Lymingtma,
were then ordered to stand part of the schedule, after a levy
words frota Mr. CROK EIL and Mr. Pusar,
Mr. WILLIAMS moved that Great Marlow b rc-
t,,,oved from schedule B,
After some observations; the gallery was ahotn.t to be
cleared for a division, but the amendment was negatived
without one, and Great Marlow stands part of schedule B.
Sudbury and Totnems, and the other horouglis inn sehe-
dulel3, were in like manner read a, part of that schedule,
z.,nti agreed to.
Lori ALTHORP—their having then arrived at sche-
dule C—ruse to tilropon.e that Ashton-under-Line, and
Stroud and Minchinhamptcn, do each stand part of sche-
dule C,—.ll,at is, that each return two reprerentativcs.
04 the question being put with respect to the first of
places,

Sir C. WETHEPELL wished to know on what prin-
ciple these places were selected fur Representatives, while
Chelsea and •;...1 my other far more important and populous
places were obliged to do without M.-whirs? lie also
ii,•.kuld like to know how the pledged men on the Mali-
sterial benches--the men who were pledged anal huumi
neck and heels to the Bill, the whole Bill, and n. thing but
the Bill," would reconcile it to their consciences to sanc-
tion A measure which, as the present cause in itself
showed, differed in every letter from that to which they
were sworn ?—(Heitr, hear.) How, he repeated, word
they, after having pledged thernse:ves to a .toe'fict,eisini,
explain it to their constituents that they had
nevf'srs'ture.") agreed to a measure wholly ditferekt in
i;vrelesryte—' jurors
Pledged they were—aye,sworn
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allvt
very
juae ►night citrti (
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knew
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as thus pledged, they lucre
ar
the bidding of their constituents, without the vormiiiaities

'p~r~~.

. &Mutest exercise of the deliberative and judicial func-
;ions of any constitutional Member of Parliament.—( Hear. )
Lord ALTHORP, in answer to the Hon. and Learned
Gentleman's cpiestion, had simply to state, that the reason
why Chelsea had not been inserted in schedules C or I)
was, that it was not deerneriXpedient to add to the me-
tropolitanrepresentation mOreihan had been done under the
B 11; and that it was thought right that the constituency
of Chelsea should helong'to the county of Middlesex at
large.—(Hear.) The two places to which he then pro-
posed to bestow the right of franchise were large and
populous manufacturing towns,which otherwise would not
be as efficiently represented as the framers of the Bill c to-
templated. With respect to the Hon. and Learned Gen-
tleman's taunt of the supporters of the Bill not possessing
the freedom of their own judgment on its provisions, it
was perhaps enough to remind the House of the fact, that
whereas many of these very pledged supporters of the Bill
divided on more than one occasion against Ministers, white
the—he supposed he must say—unpledged gentlemen op-
posite moved in such close party alliance that they never
by accident voted with Ministers in any of the numerous
divisions which had taken place during the progress of the
Bill.—(Hear. )
Lord EBRINGTON was one of those who had pledged
themselves to their constituents to support the principle .f
the Bill, but not therefore its every detail, and who had
redeemed that pledge, because it was consonant with his
own opinions and convictions. But was it therefore, lie
asked, to he borne, that for thus acting consonantly with
their own opinion., and in furtherance with the wishes of
their constituents and the general weal, they should be
taunted, as if so doing- were a crime, and that, too, !iv,
an Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had himself no con-
stituents to pledge himself to—(Loud cries of " hear")---
who was notoriously the mere nominee of a Peer—(Cheers)
—and who, as such, was as much, indeed more, fettered
and tied down to a particular line of conduct as he would
fain insinuate were the pledged supporters of the Bill.—
(Coetinued cheers.)

et

31r. GOULBURN did not think the warm rebuke of
the Noble Lord called for by what had fallen from I i%
Hon. and Learned Friend. It was true that his Hon.
and Learned Friend did sit for a small corporation; but a
sorer for so doing came with a very ill grace from the
Noble Lord, who for years was himself the nominee of a
Peer, and who had not till very recently the honour of a
more extended constituency.—(Hear.)

Lord EBRINGTON admitted the fact, but contended
that he had never ventured to censure those who hail
pledged themselves on the hustings to a free electing
constituency.
Mr. Strickland, Lord George Lennox, Mr. R. Gur•
ney, and Mr. Hodges, severally protested against the
justice of the imputations which Sir C. Wetherell had
cast upon the Ministerial side of the House, in calling
them a pledged majority. They each and all insisted tli,it
they had given no pledge to their constituents to support
every detail of the Bill—they had only expressed an o,
talon favourable to the principle of the Bill, and that opi-
nion they had found universal among their constituents.
Mr. BICKFORD addressed the House as follows :—I
do not often trouble the House with any observations of
mine, but I feel it quite impossible to refrain replying to
the remarks made by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman.
I will therefore tell that Hon. and Learned Gentleman,
that I am sent to this House by a very numerous body of
constituents, nearly 2,000 in number, who had too much
good sense to require any pledge from me, and, relying
upon my integrity, they left me to follow my own ju&-
ment—l was not bound to say " aye, aye," or " no, no,"
at the will of any Minister ; that I have at all times in-
eiravoured to discharge my duty honestly and conscienti-
ously, perfectly regardless from which side of the House the
question emanated ; and so long as my constituents think
fit to repose their confidence in me, I shall steadily pursue
.the same independent line of conduct.
Lord G. LENNOX said he had sworn allegiance to the
Bill; and what was more, the country had sworn it like-
wise. The lion. and Learned Gentleman said the Bill, in
the opinion of all prudent persons, was a lace : he would
tell the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, who was one of Lis
constituents, that in the opinion of all the people of Sus.
Aex, the opposition to the Bill was a farce.—(Cheers.)
Mr. A. TREVOR denied that the country had swcrn
allegiance to the Bill, He had been sent into that Hon e
pledged to oppose the Bill ; he gloried in having given that
pledge, and he gloried still more in having redeemed it.
After this conversation had lasted some time longer,

Arr. CROKER put it to the House, whether this kind
of desultory discussion could be at all conducive to its cha-
racter.--( Hear. )
Lord J. RUSSELL had risen to make the same sugges-
tion to the House, because, as they were all agreed to be
very angry op the third reading of the Bill, it might be as
well if they were good-humoured at present.—The amend-
ment was then agreed to.
On the queseon being put, " That Whitehaven and
Workington should sand as one of the boroughs in sche-
dule D,"
Mr. CROKER rose to nigive an amendment. The
addition of Workington to Whitehaven was such a dere-
liction of the principle of this Bill, that he felt himself
obliged to move to disjoin these two places. The town of
Whitehaven contained a population of 16,000 souls, arid
the town of Workington was distant eight miles frmu it.
It was therefore unnecessary to introduce contributory
boroughs into the northern part of England, by adding the
town of Workington to the town of Whitehaven, which
already contained 16,000 inhabitants. He therefore
moved that the town of Workington be struck out of the
schedule. _ . .

Lord ALTHORP briefly expressed his disapprobation
of the amendment.
Sir C. WETHERELL declared his intention to sup-
port it.
The amendment was, however, negatived without a
ivision.
The other schedules were theft agreed to.
On the motion of Lord ALTHORP, the Bill with it:
amendments was ordered to be engrossed, there being only
one dissentient voice against it. The third reading of the
Bill was then fixed for Monday next. The Bill, as
amended, to be printed.