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After sane of Jlic Bills were goo:. tliroogh, • .
. Tke 1,',31.1 o 1 LIVFAILPOtn. liresontgti...n Message
from t,be Erinee Regent, touchinog the Vote of Cceilit 1.1
toNard.; the eloie.of Se,sion,.aud to that delice:•ed
ti toe- ltiuse of.Coininini;,expvessii•e of 11LS Royal I-Egli-
tiess's reliance on the expe:itlieed zeal nod isffection of their
Lordships, trusting any wo i<i conear in sonli Ineasures as
ni:ty tie- ipieessury t.I diiiiiivoint tile enteiptiiies and frustrate
-Vie de. i!..;:ns t enm ey, and,to enicolu his atiyal,Pl4l,ll-.
nes; to.ti tlie. such farther exertions in sApport of the cause in
he is engaged as cireunst•inecs may require.
The Message heiug reol, ot !Os Lortjsiiip's motion,
oedereil to he -taken into considerailoi tu-utorrOw, and the
Lords summoned on the occasion. -••, „ '

The E,trl of Ltuntßnma: what the ttinouot
of the Altai to he proposttl a. the I,',)te of Credit ?
- rra2 Earl of LtvEttt-ot.t, ao-,weretl, Five %Woos, •

MISC-BI.LAN E,O

Lind AMHERST' ilOiktHibSell66 of a Noble
Friend (Lord..Borikdoit) mined, that their Lardships stand
summoned PA- Wedue3day, being the day appointed .fur. the
second readinir of *the Vaccination' Li U.—Ordered.
Ina Committee of the .selkole, flotise, the Scotch Bridges
Bill received someanteuchnents,on the suggestion'of Viscount
Melville, Lard Redesdale, and the of Lauderdale, which
were ordered to he reported to-morrow. .
On the motion of the Loity.CtLiNcztd.ott, the ionsidera-
tiOn of the Airle Peerage-was ordered
.to be resumed to-mar-
tow, at three o'clo.lt. His Lordship toot occasion to notice
the propriety of Noble Lords attending m to Corm a
Committee of Privileges, . ,
Certain additional docuMents respecting the claims 'of Mr.
Palmer, • and individoals to attend for examination.befare
their Lordships Committee, were ordered, on the 'motions of
,Lord hrsliitrantiAtte Earl of Lauderdale._

ConlUiiitee—OWthe Liilt f9rthe :to:lief-of-certain Pebta'rs
confined in the King's Bench and Nlitrshalsea Perioni, a con-
vergation of some length took place, in which Lqrdz tte 1,
dale, the Lord Chancellor, the Earls of Lauderdale and titan-
hope pacticipated. - The principal topic of anituadver.tion was
the alleged inequality of coo rates applicable to the main-
tenance of plisaneri froal the reapectire counties. These,
the Learned Chief dusti;:e explained, proceeded from the
namber of pri.oners upon the average from each county,
and the proportion was:iinde in reference to that. '
After .7corite father diito4%ion--- _ _

" Earl STAN:tom lie was glad to see their
Ltirdships no;Roimons upon the subject, which was that of
preventing pour people in question from being starved.
He then suggeSted the propriety of rejecting the obnoxious
clause, which, in the, result, MIS iwred to by the Committee,
and the Report was ordered 14 he Receive,' to-morrow.
Their Lordships re.solved info a Committee on the Ationi.:
ties Registration Bill, on which a dis,:ussiou of considerable
length took place.
Lords Rtin:,s ii.thr, Et.t.vmsnitou on, and the LonoCnAN-
CELLOit, were the spemkers. They 6eCtliftti, more or less, to
disapprove of the Bill in its present shape ; and the nnnity
Act uf the 17th of his Majesty, asV.its inn." object,
was copiously ciferred to. They agreed that some further
legislative regulation on the sulijeer, which W:l3 of great in-
dividual importance., was .highly necessary: anti their Lord-
ships ultimately resolved to pu,zpone the Rill far further con-
sideration, which, oa the 'louse resuming, was Axed for
Wednesday.
BORTHWICK PEERAGE.
The Earl of LAntinaiinahti moved,Thzt the- recent reso-
lution of the House; :against their 'Lordships receiving any
evidence militating agniti,4 t M rijhts of Henry, tenth Baron
Borthwick, under tllc adjudication,of 1702, be read, which
was aceordingly done. 4,
.The Noble Earl, utter a few observations, stated, that the
should move the previons questiol upon the said resolatiOn,
with the view, to the u4)ption-uf that the Committee
,uf Privilege's should he inStructed. to receive e, is rn, a on the
part of the claimants, timagli the same shut controvert the
adjudication of 1702, at there teas tegitwv,l4, de,Lendon,c
of the said Fleury to claim the benefit of suji jody,meni. •
His Lordship having moved to this pßuposition,
after a few words from the' Lard CnatKellur, was agreed to
by th,e noose; us was also a siggestion of the Noble. Earl's,
that the Order for resuming the vase in the Committee of Pri-
vileges to-morrow shOuld he discharged, and its farther eunsi-
deratim adjourned tratil the next
~.‘lettshni.

tDdc heitvr reointively lawaracd,
tlitir Lordships atljourtlict tiii,to-rourraw.

MUSE OF COMMONS.

MESSAGE RESPECTING THE VOTE ,OF CREDIT.

The CH ANCELVIR of.the &Lou EQUE a presented
a Message from the Prince Regent, Lt was brought
up and read, and was nearly as tollows

11 GEORGE, P.R.

" The Prince Regent, acting in the name and on the behalf
otitis Majesty, considering the great importance_it tnny be of
to the welfare of this country, that a provision should be
made to take adtiautage of Lug circumstances that may arts°
out of the present state of things on the Continent, and re-
lying on the zeal and experience of the tlonse.of Commons,
trusts they will take such measures 44 in their wisdom they
may think necessary, to enable him to disappoint or defeat
the designs Otis enemies."

Oa the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
,
cittiaVEß, the Prince liegent's ittost gracious Ales,
sage WAS ordered to be taken 'into consideration
to-morrow.

On thettuotion of Air. WEATERN, Returns of the Duties
p irl on Leather in the two q :artery, ',oiling, April 5. and
ly 5, 1813, su soon us the:. eau hr made up, with several
other Papers relative to the exportation. and importation of
raw and tanned Hiclesovere ordered to be laiti before the
House.

Mr. S. WOATEAr brought up the Iteport-of the Conunittes
appointed to inquire into the eirettinstances of Mr, tiroggutt's
counneateut, it is Stated, that the treat:gent he had received
hi Netvgate aid ow. Appear to have heint severe, improper, ur
ttorial. Ordered to be un the table and tube printed.
Mr. enoulat.presented a Petition, signed by certain Inha-
bitanti of London and ‘Vestininster, against:the Licensed
Victuallers Bill. • - •

Air. Ansa observed, this Petflion appeared one of the most
culpable attempts to impose an .the House he ever remcm,
bored to have seen. .Many of the names attached to it were
spelt improperly. The Christian name '• was •in-
variably spelt with an H. /Sow, that one of the permais
siloing might 'sign his nano thus was nut iarprolmolc,
hot that so many persons"-n there were of • that- Christian
statue concerned in this petition, 'Should spell their names so,
was not credible. This Proved, in his Wind, that many of
them bad been v/ritteu by the some hand. • The allegations of
the petition, how7evcr, Were .oanifestly absurd, that hay-
iae utfered theft remarks, he iod uu objection to its being
laid on the table.

Mr. CROligit said, ninny of the nam.2, in the petitioni, -pre-
sented on the situjet of tli4 Claim:" of the Lititulics, find
been written. in -the same haul, yet the petitions were not
olijected to on this account. The petition had been put into
leis hands, and as the language of it had not appeared to ititu
improper, be had titungiti' it -his duty t. firing it before the
Bone. If it was 3.4 eminently absurd a; the flight Hu-
uourable.cientletuun seelded to,thinti, in .11is opinion, it was
admirably suited to the Bill tO which it vas. intended to
apply.

tie Petition was ordered tr. lie on the table.
Some conversation tool: place Getweett Mr. Warn:ticAti
and Mr. WHARTON, 011 !Vie Subject of the Report of the
Auction Ditty Bill., Mr. V.'oitartitl Wisltc.l it to he postpon-
," to Init"..Y. Fil33llY, it w:tsontticritouti t tint
ton coti,,,ttiircil to poop:Ant it to Wetlisettilay.
Oil titc RepOrt of the Licensed Victuallers 13111 being,
brought tip;
\lr. SrttAser Wrovrtxy offfirgd a few ohgeryations,
big it to !title Report out ties Poor Lows 11j11.
rite 'him of his mistake.
Mr. Glinatit on
,the quaqion- That the
Arotodoloots Ve now operd to; proposed U. an
rAnt they thouhl itc r'itit it second time on this day
throw, months." . , •
Mr. 'Rost 9olite at some length in favour of the Dill, after
which the House tiividnol, when the nuin.:ers wrre—
For agreeing to the Amenthuelit nocy
Yu!' the Ailletutnittrit at Mr. Croliur 39
Itililuriti,itt,favottr of tha itgOIL ..

On the quezdion that the Report be received, another di :-
sin n touli: p:A.,e-- , . .
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Fqr. the Rep0rt....,.. .. . ... ,
AtrOnSt kt..... ' - .
-3l'Ajill'll... for it • ... ----5
Me Dili tvili 601 0111-.,eed to be read a e rd time to.
marrow-. : • -.. .. .
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Ott the ritiotion thatthe slvoild go iwatt Committes.
oft the Windsurr Fol',3t I.la, -a --dritilciry ConsTrsation u..ose,
in which Mr. Whitbread 'fr. W hart to V; r- 1 i).--tiit;•-i-t;'lr.
and Mr. itt)3t! participated. Mr. Whitbread 5t....1-cct
III: information Le• had .reecive,l from Mr. it-ti..rton, re,
r.tpecting the uepreittti(o committed in ,i'tndi it- Forest,
the marking of the tree,t, ni, he ifirolis:..rten,
he It id heard-in ot.tter spart..ns, anti •ite tit.. t <Atotti:;s.
sioa busi ismlct• thr Vrivl,.S4k.ti,tc; 1114
practicability of fnrtning out part or 'tin, Park, AO Wl4l k,.r,
ittelttn 4144 V.•.c.,
,It was avaied hy Mr. Vt. it t.-: th,t, alky
unui,#!, ~z,stea to ent dasvn thu trees et tie ed in WindAor
P.it h. were, hirtveve'r, necess',iq, when is sva•, 1 tt.-
proper to direct :toy of the timlier;to -to fi•revt tho'
Poem*" teml,4oYed - tile_ right. trces.r? 1-1 e koe to not, hi t'
the Cominission etym.-wiled by the Mit. rie:t,tiettion t
atf.):: The fctict.ts and shrds in the P:tri, at ;Ittoptutt
Court, he stated, in intinver to hititstion tly. Mr, Ben-
nett, to have teen raised for tie reception of the Vritter
gent's stud. The expense of raising them was
.paid lay Ott'frnstees
'frnstees of the Pnris. • • •

The Bill then went through a Comraittre, the Report of
which was ordered to be, recewed to-morrow.
The Report of the Royal' Canal Cot-tinnily Tiill tva*
taken into further consideration. The MR recommitted r
the Report of the Committee was.received ; and the Bill I 8
dered to he read a third time to-morrow:

The. Paymaster • General's Accoont Bill went through
Committee; the Report of which was ordered to be received
to-morrow.

The Irish Inspivent Debtors Bill Veot. through _a COM"
ITlttee ; the Report of which was ordered to he received to,
morrow. - - . , , . ,

A Message from the Lures anuonuced their Lordships'
sent to the luolieeperl . .
Lord CASTLEI;EAGIc'tnoved that the House should reolve
itself into a Committee of, the
_ EAST INDIA CWIPANI"S CHARTER BILL.,

Mr: GRENVELL thought the experiment. the
Howse was disposed to make, would pros.blec. 110
coannercial benefit, and could not be. tuad,-
ont risking the loss of our political power hi,
Ile objected to t:utt part of the &II which rehitea
to the introduction of Missionaries, tend thowlbt
the I;3th Resolution seenred theta
,nothing %%1.6(11
was not given them by the third, while it was to
be feared it would hive the effect of Mar-mini; the
natives of India. . .

AIr.MnITSHLD KEENrI stated his-objection,.; to
the Bill at some length. Ile thotight it Neent.
it,ra nst the evidence on whteh it one-htio iiu
founded, and some of its proviSiOns appeared to
hint pregnant with danger to our politieal.power.
CALCII.U.T
,could not agree with:the.
,la St
Speaker, that the present Bill would materially
iaterfere with the political Constitution of 'the
Company. Ile. was I: strennous.supporter of the
as tar as it went to put the.Commereial at*.
Itirs of the Company,tmder the care of the Bair
of Commal. Ile, however, objected to the pt'u
for which the Chatter was proposed to be grant-.
ed. He, thought it ought not. to be granted for
twenty years; and he thought, the monopoly of the
China.trade ought not to he secured, to thorn fee
,more titan seven years. Ile objected to the part
of the Bill which related to Missionaries going to
India. When the Bill got' into 4 Committee, ha
intended to Move artantendrnetiCon this subject,
and he should propose amendments as to tits
period for which the Charter ought to be granted,
and- to limit their monopoly of the China trade to
a period not exceeding; seven years..-
.. Mr. R. GORDON was of opinion, that the argh.
meats of inferested 100110poliStS on the one, 'mid,
and of sanguine spechlators on the other, ought 0,
to be put in competition with.the happiness of lite
natives of India. They were told fiy the Last
Ind is COlnp.any-Zdet us retain our monopol, and
every thing will gn on bia if you adniit
to. India a set of brutal traders, %rho wilt iray no
respect to the pre Judi of the people they r,o
among, whO hill ridicule their religious ctrea
=ldes, shoot their comeermed monk tes, and cut
off the old women's ears and noses, rout MOO ell,
site. .The' Advocates for the oat-ports. s4id--.
Throw open the ports of Bristol, Liverpool; ao4
Hull, and all will prosper, as if the landing. of a
merchtint in One of those plaCes was sutlicieut to
secure the happiness of India. He was of opinion
the whole system of our political' arrangements
ought to be completely altered. Before the new
Charter was' sent to the Company to acecpt or
reject, Ministers. to have prepared thenr“ilves
.state "the alternative. He cettld not bon eVer
liere there was such a want of talent at the prcseut
day, that an alternative could not be found. ,
w.:s not disposed tottsscut to the Bill, as 1iv,1001,-
ed upon it to be a mclange.of restrictiou and eon-
cessio.,. He regarded it as o.ne of these half rhea.
sures which usual!y characterized weak or inai.
dent. Govermuents.

Mr. C. GRANT addressed :!itosell to the !.;,41).i(21't
as it now stood before the House. after all thtt
debates, which tha question hail 'undergone, he
was of opinion, that the bystein which had pro.
cured a great empire, and succee,led in ge ea ning
it so well, was on the eve of being hroLen (1`..1,111
for a mere commercial specniiit;oo. he del
precated, and repeated. his a.V4t11110114:;, to -.lleVs.;
that throwing open the trade would be ;0 en:;etl
with. danger and ruin. Aa,,ther iviiich thd
Company hati,dreaded from th,2 pres,ln.c uf their
territorial debt, hail been so!:1,:e-i1 :,11t,vittecl
communications-with tioveruinel:r ; l.nt he can-
tinned to think. that infinite damage would be
done by permitting the sale of their iinports,
the connnon t'y the out-pm... which would
supersede the regular sales o the Compnuy. He
expressed his conviction, that by Phis Bill a sys-
tem of licenses would spring up to destroy that
union of principle which had hitherto subsisted .so
touch to the happiness and of both Loup
tries, and thus reduce the Comp:illy to a dilemma,
in which- they must either accept this inea;sitre,
4114 con6qui to it in evt.try respect, or givtif
chatter altol ether. nut in,ide lii? 100 tnittlitirc,*
nor had the Directors, which of 1114.4ew.ac5c„„
6..
better course to adopt the
leaving the government of i
etineoeft.dttnilw 1(1
porno vre.
ComPPIV, div"ti"g r.t,nt into det a'-'tul
The lion. Gentleman then.,a.
enLirged
upon a nutpbey of topics; 711.1 e,), .front
„the low tone of vionl7o:ttliiial:elneloi .."11.ecatr.elvhenreit:11
htS
igallery tt~ criZeacstly " to ,enable us to report them
accu
ply triointo ;ti eteillriehtliostpilo'e:r4eryee'lot'::ll('llL:ifi'ti:llllll.\elt, irc)ll-.::l(ititt;i;c;klireolntr:e.(ll!)';ot%evrteuyvtivto:itil'i:::;:t::l:l3r:rl
Ctltitonis.

LLTSIIINGToN WWI Con'Orned,
.thAt if till
m Copany and private traders foltowed oiiratv AO.
tho. spirit la wltiett it was frill:Red, wady. uti.

rantage svould result to the country, though per-
haos not in the precise way that -either antici-
pated. It -was of the utmost importance to come
to a Just understanding, on the stiject of the in-
ternal state of India, and, he was anxious: to res-
cue the natives front the opinion which haft hecn
expressed ; that they were in a state of degrada-
tion which would exense their being treated with
inlonnanity. Ile chiefly condemned the Missio-
nary press .for disseminating these injurious inn
potations 'Ton the character of the Indian peo-
ple, and representing them as devoid of truth, and
destitute of honesty. .Frozr these aspersions he
was anxious tojustifythem, front his owil-knO":"'
ledge, during several years residence in India. He
read extracts front several works of this kind, the
'B se of Wisdom, Dr. Buchanan's, and others,
which.- described the Hindu's as the worst per-
sons on earth, and reenmthentling ebercion to
regenerate them. These things must be most se-
verely felt by the:people. to whose prejudice they
were disseminated. line rend an adthirable east-
ern letter, breathing the purest, gentlest, and
most pacific principles towards all 'mankind; and
contrasted its moderation with the hot, zealous
projects of the, INlissionaries. He earnestly called
upon Parliament to keep their faith with ludia by
not interfering, with the exercise of their religion,
but granting the promised protection of the Bri-
tish Government to them, in their inherited. faith.
This in every trial was thebes:bond of their attach 7
Mew' tons, 'and the surestfoundat ion of our Empire
in India. Adverting to,the speech' of Mr. Wilber-
force, lie thought that Hon. Gentleman had as-
cribed the Vices of the Indians to their moral pra-
vity, which, in filet, arose front the oppression of
the rule under which they had so long laboured,
—Their books were replete with the purest mo-
rality and - philosophy, which Ite illustrated by
reading extracts from a religious Ilindu moral
tract, the sentiments contained in which were ex-
ceetrogl y simple, touching, and exalted. On the
subjeet of the infidelityof the sex io India, bad
principle§ had been imputed to the Indians. This
he'denied, and affirthed that their principles were
as 'pure, their practice more pure than our own.
Ile had often witnessed their religion, which was
a combination of devotion to God, and benevo-
lence to man, and not as represented, a mixture
of blasphemy and prolanathm. He quoted the
authority of Mr-Orme and several others; among.
-the rest, a work lately published . in Paris, under
the auspices of the French National Institute, to
prove the happiness and virtue of the Gentoos ; and
also that the vices of the Minions were in a great
nicasore owning to the oppressive nature of their
Government. He read an account of acts of ay-
pression and outrage, committed- by Hindoos of
the lowest order,: who had been converted to
Christianity by a limn of the name of Jelicoe, and
all of whom, he learned, bad afterwards returned
to the faith of the Gentoos. In that account, it
was remarked; greater outrages' were committed
upon the Brahmins by the converts to the Roman
Catholic faith, than by those converted to Pro-
testantim. lie concluded ay .citing the opinion'
Sir William Jones, who, in one of his works,
has declared, that he Aid not believe that either
the ROman Catholics, nor the sects of any other
Christian faith, could be successful in converting
the natives of India ; and that the only probable
human means that could prove successful was a
translation of the . Prophecies into the §anserif
languaie.
Mr. W. SAlrrn denied that -his Honourithle
Friend had quoted any opinion of Dr. Buchanan
doting the whole of his eloquent speech.- lle con-
fessed that he, and those other persons who sup-,
ported that Side of the question which was oppo-
site.to that espoused by the Honoinable Gentle-
man svho spoke last, were placed in a situation of
great dilemma--V/or, hear such dilemma
as those Gentlemen:who affected to cheer him.°
meant, but because the authorities which they had
produced had been met by authorities equally
merons and respectable. Ile went on at consider-,
able length to refute ,what,had been said by the-
Honorable Member, who spoke last respecting',
the felicity, of the Hindoos. • He rested particu-
larly on the opinions of time Iliadoos respecting
women, whom they did not condder as worthy
to be treated as rational creatures. To prove this
,he
quoted an extract from-the sacred, writing: of the
Hindoos, in which women were thus character-
ised, as having, first, an -inordinate desire for
.fitteryl 24, immoderate lust; 3d, violent anger ;
fourth, deep and dark resentment ; fifth ma-
lignant envy ; 6th, irregular and vicious conduct.
Such being the sentiments of these-people towards
the female part of their species, he left it to the
House to judge in hoW far the pictures of felicity
amongst the Hindoos, which bad been produced
by the Hon. Gentleman, were correct. He would
have Christianity introduced-into India, if it were
tor no other purpose than ,for the benefit of Chris-
tian morals ; and if' he believed no, more of Chris-
tianity titan Voltaire, he would eagerly support
the cause ‘ybieb be the!t was advoentint.f. Ile
went out at great length to argue oii the effect of
VC.Vgion upon the morals of a petiple, contending
that a morality was inetm;isterit with the religion
of the Hindoos, 1.1 Gentlemen really could avow
that they thought all the sublime doctrines of
morality could be- as strongly enforced by the re-
ligion of the Ilindoos, as by the divine doctrines
of Christianity, then he could see consistency in,
the course which they porsued, but he.coold lint'
allow that such personfi were sincere Christians.
What opinion could people entertain of that God,
whom a man thought he was propitiating, when
he fixed two hoops through his back, and per-
mitted himself to be swung round for two hours
so suspended . 7. The Hon. Gentleman talked of
doMestic affection ; he would ask what kind of
affection that was, which tnade a Man marry a
'intinber of wlves, in the conviction', that after
-his death the greater number of the Were to be
burnt Gentlemen better them
doubt such -facts,
beeattse it wag out ti' doubtiug tbat they could
noltotti their m
syste of opposiot4 the intrOduction
mlmmiongi,st the natives Tuditl. All
that he wished isVas, that' the introduction of
'Christianity should not be hindered, but thin ttae
religion of Christ should b w
y a oeft to take root
where it would grow.
:Mr. Losnitssurost explained.
,
Tettssrev thought, that the ii it pr'qper
time for discussing the question :which had been
the subject of debate for the greater pan of that.

night, ..Would he when the Honse went into the
Connnittee;
.he therefore wished to- bring back
tit e-Comse of the debate to its limiter channel, and
to consider the ntaure of-ache _Bill 011 which they
were about to decide. 1-IoW -it could be made out
...by argnment.that it was expedient to open the
tracie to India, while that to.Chitlit was to be kept
shut, he could not understand. The territories
of the .E Est 'lndia Company bad been limited ;
they formerly comprehended the coast -of A trir
front the Cape of Good ILope-:---they were now to
be coufin'cd within the, river tering on the one
hand, and Liince of Wales Island em the Other.—
He went on to consider the iiiiirent douses of the
Bill : why the tradeto India wain to be confined to
particular ports, if no danger from smuggling ex-
isted'-s a greater degree in one port than another,
- he cool(' not conceive. It seemed that to be ad-
initt‘ed to a participation of the trade was to be a
•matter of great interest, and the power of extend-
ing the the trade to any particular port in the king-
dom was to he vested in his Majesty's Ministers.
The nature of the• Bill in- that respect was. well
worth the serious consideratioo of the .House,—
The next question was, what kind of 'ships were
to be allowed to go from those ports that were
to be allowed engage in the trade. There
were three descriptions of licenses; the first kind
was of such a nature, that. they could not be re-
fused ; the second could he refused by the Court
of Directors, but then came the Board of Con-
.
troul with the powen.of compelling the Directors
to grant such licenses• the third kind oflicense
was to be granted hy ;he Board of Controul alone
and the Court. of Directors had nothing to do
with it. But when free trade was talked of, why
have any license,at all, and Why not permit mer-
chants to trade to. any part tot Indiathey pleased ?
The fact was, that the whole power was to be.
vested in the Board of Controul ; and • the liberty
of trade was only to be allowed
,tri -those traders
who might have the good forttsee'to persuade the
Board of Controul to grant those licenses. He
anituadvertedon.the clause respecting manifests,
which, he thought, impOsed an unreasonable
hardship on Captains of ships. To the clause re;-
,specting the lists of passengers; he had no -objec-
tion to make. 'The next clause on which lie ani-
madverted, was, that which prevented the Com-
pany from having the power of. buying in their
own goods, 'while the clause gave such a power to
private'merchants; and the cause why this hard-
ship was to be-imposed on the Conipany was this,
that they landed' their doods at their awn
warehouses. Could. this .be termed opening
the trade with equal advantage to 'the private
trailer • and to the Compaq , while it tended
actually to destroy the whole systeni of the_Coms
patty in respect 'to their- sales,.,,thoogh upon this ,
they in a great measure depended for their revenue.
The Bill must have the effect of lowering the Go-
vernnient in the estimation of the people. It
was not left in the power of the. Company to get
rid immediately of any person going to India,
however they may judge him unfit to continue
there. With respect to the India Trade, if the,
Company were deprived- of it, be should be glad
to know how they could get rid of the mass of en-
gagements which that trade now met, There ivere
no means of discharging those engagements hut-
through the investments. -Unless a clause were
put in to free the Company 'froinithepeeeisity
applying from year to year to Parliament, he did,
not see bow the Company could accept of the
Charter under the present regulations. The sur-
plus revenue, by the Bill, was not to be left in
the hands of the Company: They were prevented
front applying it, 'except according "•to the plea-
Sure of the Board of Controul. This would pre-
vent them from meeting the engagements' arising
from that revenue. Almost every clause in the
Bill had reference to trade. There was nothing
that had reference-to the natives, except some
provisions respecting the settletnent ofEtwopeans,
which arose front ripening the trade::' There was
to he Only one Bishop, and his diocese was the
largest that 'could be well Conceived. It extended
from Cape Morn to. the Cape of Good Hope. This
Bishop was' prevented -from exercising• trade, and
the Bill left to the Missionaries, the•care of Morals:
and religions so that it was.no easy matter to eon
ceive what the Bishop wa, to 410.. It' would
be hard for him to exercise Confirmation. in a
diocese of such. dimensions. Were the people to
go to him, or was he to go them This he .looktd
'upon as nothing but a gross joh to increase pa-
tronage. On the whole., he thought that the Di-
rectory would not do their duty by accepting .of
the Charter-under such conditiOns, unless they
were certain of being;- able to meet the difficulties
it would biing- with it, and he believed there was
.ito Director who would assert that such was the
case. The effect of the Bill would be, he was per-
fealy convinced, after some time, to throw nil the ,
.patronage-of India into the hands of the Crown.
• Lord CASTLgREAGri would not folloW
Gentleman (Mr. '1 ierney) through all. the' details
into which he had gone. He did not believe hini'
're' be-gravely sincere in- many of his observatirtus,
for never did he observe less solidity. in the same
extent of argument. Ail the points tof-which he
spoke hod before received the sanction of, both
Houses of Parliament. The HOn.Geotleman ex-
pressed his fears of the risk the CoMpany. would
run by ficcepting of thiA Charter. ii the Com-
pany had any penetration, they would perceive
that he was not a sincere adviser: It was repre-
sented as am• attempt ter grasp the patronage of
India ; yet what was the difference in that respect
bet Ween the ,plan proposed ,by,. the Uonottrable
Gentleman himself' and that now proposed? Ilis
system went to confine' thejtisports to the port
of London, theirs to extend them to the ontports.
In truth, his speech' Went as much against his
own_ *system As against that of Government. 'The
principal difference was that' respecting' the Or-
plus revenue, but there would he no difficulty to
shown, when the went into the Committee, that
the Company would always have the use of tifose
funds arising
the different
from 'sorplus revenue., The fittest
- -mmittee • he wonld not
time for -answering' bblecti°, as to
clauses would be in the Co ,
therefore now delay the time of the House by gn-
Jug into these objectiotts,
*riled that the Com--
pitAnlyr,:r(R:l(l3lsallercerl;tift°ll:l';CTl9:rter, as now offered, Up.:
ara their 'own responsibility they accepted it up-
on the responsibility of Parliament.
• Mr. TtattlaY explained. Hu never had in con-

temptation such a plan as that referred to by tte
Noblc Lot d.

Mr. MARRYAT condemned that part of the Bill
which referred to the building of ships in India.
Mr. CHARLES GEANT denied that :the revenue
system of India was oppressive, and such 4 as it
was; it was not introdUced by the Company.
11r. spOke for some time, but in so
low a tone that he could not be heard in the
gallery.
The question was then put and carried. The
horse resolVed itself into . the Committee pro
forma, and a blank in-the :first clause was filled
up. The House then resumed, and the Report
was brought up, and ordered to be taken into fur-
ther consideration on Wednesday.
The Fire Arm§ proof Bill was read a second Chic, and or-
dereettohe committed this day.
The Committee un the Corn Laws was postponed to this
day.

HILEY AnumnToN-obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
extend the services of the Militia of the Tower Hamlets to
all parts (dilly United Kingdom. He then brought in the
Bill; which was read a first, and ordered to be read a second
time to-morrow.

Accounts of the Duty on Bills of Exchange in England and
Scotland, were ordered to be laid before the House.-
. Mr. BABINOTO Moved that a letter, dated June 8, 1813,
addressed to the Directors of the East India Company, re-
specting the IdolJaggernant, he laid before the House. •
The motion was objected to by Mr.CouarEx. v, Wit agreed
to after a few words from the SPr..AKER.
The Orders of the Day were disposed of; 'and the -House
adjourned at Half-past One.