The Sun.
London, England, 1849-09-07 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDO'N,

FRIDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 7, 1849.

other officer. Oa Monday the 27th I went to Pro- r William Byford, cab driver, said, on Wednesday, i
spect Huse, which wag oecupiPA by M. 13..rtenu,Ithe 15th of AvicrtNt, I 4,-,k lin a pArQnn froTro 14.
where I found the prisoner in b .1. tie v; H- :1 + s, . ' 1-

meuiately secured. lie called out, Halloo, wuat
are you ell about here, are you going to murder
me ?" I knew him before, and I then made
myself known to him. He said " Oh, sergeant, is that
you; lam glad you have come. I was coming to
London to explain it all. Is the wretch taken ?" I
said, " Yes, I believe she is, but I don't know," sup-
posing that he alluded to his wife. He said, " I sup-
pose they found a great deal of money upon her,
1,3001. or 1,4001." I said "I do not know ; but you
must consider yourself in custody on the shucking
charge which took place at your house on Monday."
He said, " Oh, I can explain it, and make it all right."
I tuld Lockyer to put the handcuffs on as soon as he
was dressed, and he said, " Oh, do not do that; you
know me well enough." I replied, " I must do
my duty in such a serious case as this." In
going from the house to the goal he said,
" I am perfectly innocent ; she did the
murder," adding " that she invited O'Connor
to dinner ; that when the cloth was laid she asked
him to go down stairs to wash his hands, and when
at the bottom of the stairs, she put one band cn his
shoulder:and shot him in the back of the head."
Captain Chevailar, who was in the carriage, asked what
was done with the body, and he said she had a grave
dug for him ; h., did not give the answer immediately,
but paused first, a second or two. When I saw him
at the goal on the following morning, he first asked
me how long he would be kept there, as he was
anxious to get to London to explain all ? I said,
" You had better be cautious, for what you
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notbo matter,
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He said,
innocent, I can explain it in a few minutes." I
brought the prisoner over in the Dispatch boat, and
on board he asked me " whether, if she confessed, he
would be free ?" I said he must really excuse me, as
an officer, giving an answer to such a question.
He said again, " She must confess if she
is taken before a magistrate or a clergyman." He
then repeated the statement with respect
to the shooting, in similar terms as before. Manning
was very ill when he started from Jersey, and when
he arrived at Southampton Inspector Haynes met us
on the vessel reaching its destination. There was
some conversation in the railway carriage, but I was
fatigued, and felt rather sleepy, and I cannot recol-
lect what was said. I took possession of his luggage
at Jersey, and I found in a coat pocket some gun-
powder, amounting to about enough for a charge. I
shook it out of a piece of tissue-paper in which it was
enclosed.
Nothing important was elicited in cross-examination.
Henry Lockyer, police-constable 90 A, said he
accompanied Langley to Jersey, and was present
when Manning was taken into custody. On board
the Dispatch boat from Jersey, Manning said, " She
certainly did it, but she will not be hung for it, be-
cause the Duchess of Sutherland will intercede and
get her off." In the railway train he said he was a
foolish man for going away—that he ought to have
gone at once to the authorities that Mrs.
Manning had done it, fur he said she coukl
not die happy without doing it, for he had deceived
her twice." (This, of course, was in allusion to
O'Connor, although not stated in evidence.) The
witness then corroborated the conversation that tcok
place, when Manning said that O'Connor promised to
lodge at Minver-place, but, after sleeping one night,
had left and refused to come again.
John Basset, clerk to Messrs. Killich and Co., 6,
Bank Chambers, City, being sworn, said—At the
latter end of July and the beginning of
August a person came to our office whom I
then knew as Mr. Patrick O'Connor ; that
is the man I mean (pointing to Manning). On
the 31st, or thereabouts, he came to the office, and I
introduced him into the back room. He said he came
to make inquiries about some stock, and to know our
terms. I introduced him to our principal. On
Thursday, the 2d of August, about two o'clock, he
came again, and apologised to me for not calling as
he had promised. He said that he did not want the
money upon the shares for a few days. On the
11th of August he also came, and brought some
stock with him. I said that our manager was out,
but that I would manage the business for him which
he wished transacted. He produced twenty consoli-
dated shares in the Eastern Counties Railway Com-
pany. I asked him how much money he required ;
he replied 1201. or 1301. I said that I can let
you have 110/. ; he said that would do on the stock
in question, and gave the name Patrick O'Conner.
I asked him where he lived, and he said 21, Green-
wood-street, Mile-end-road. I advanced to him a
1001. note, a Si. note, and five sovereigns. The pri-
soner, in my presence, signed the transfer of the
shares, " Patrick O'Connor, 21, Greenwood-street,
Mile-end-road." I received the bank notes which 1
gave to him from Mr. Hammond, who is another
clerk in our office. He was very communicative
and talkative; he said he was going to Exeter
to fish, and that he would make me a present
of some salmon. On the following Monday I went
to:the address given by the prisoner.;
Mr. Bodkin said he would not ask the witness any
further questions.
Richard Hammond said—l_recollect a gentleman
coming into our office; that person is present; there
he is (directing his attention to Manning). I re-
member when he called giving Mr. Basset, the
former witness, a 1001. note, No. 15,043, sth June,
1849, a 51. note, No. 20,051, July 13, 1849, and five
sovereigns. I took the number of the notes at the
time. The prisoner was present when I gave them
to him.

Mr. Griffiths, clerk in the Bank of England, pro-
duced the identical 1001. bank note, which he said
was changed on the 11th of August. It is our cus-
tom to have the address of the person who presents a
note written on the back of it, and if he refuses to
give an address we decline changing the note. The
address written on the back of this note is " Frederick
Manning, 7, New'Weston-street, Bermondsey." I gave
in change of it 50 sovereigns and a ticket, for which he
could get what notes he liked, to the amount of 501.
Mr. Joseph Adams, another clerk in the Bank of
England said, that on the Ist of August he gave five
101. notes for the ticket which was produced by the ,
last witne3s. They were numbered from 67,572 to
67,576 inclusive.

Mr. Bodkin here stated to the solicitors for the
prisoners that Mr. Moxey was at present in Edin-
burgh, and could not be called, but he might men-
tion that among the articles found in the possession
of the female prisoner at Edinburgh were the five
101. notes mentioned by the last witness.
Mr. Shillibere, solicitor, carrying on business in
Bucklersbury, said he knew the handwriting of
Manning, and that the address upon the 1001. note
was written by him.

Mr. Stevens, stock-broker, of No. 3, Royal
Exchange, said—l knew Patrick O'Connor. lie
was one of my clients. On the 6th of August I
delivered to him ten shares in the Sambre and
Meuse, numbered from 6,460 to 6,469, inclusive.
That was the last transaction I had with him. On

the 11th May I purchased ten shares for him in the
Amiens and Boulogne, numbered from 48,665 to

48,674, and delivered them to him on the same day.
I have seen those shares since; they were

produced by Mr. Moxey. The female prisoner
is the person, I think, who came to my office on the
Ist, 2d, or 3d of August last. She said she had some
money to invest', and introduced herself by saying that

she was recommended by Mr. Patrick O'Connor. I

asked her in what she wished to invest, and she re-

plied, stock that she could sell abroad. I said that was

a very indefirate term, or something to that effect.

I showed her a list of foreign stock, and she selected
the Sambre and Meuse Railway. I asked her

;or her name, and she wrote it upon aslip of paper,

which is now lost. The name was Mrs. Manning,

but the address I cannot recollect. She spoke first of

all of buying Bank Stock, and when I observed that
a widow or a spinster could purchase it, but that a
married lady could not, she said she wished some
stock which she could sell unknown to her husband,

and without anj, control. This excited my suspicion.
She said she RI ould call again, but I did not see Ler

afterwards.
By Mr. Solor eons—l think it was about the let of
August ; it mig ht have been a day or so before or
after; I made n•o memorandum of her visit
By Mr. Bodk in—Mr. O'Connor never told me that
he would send any one to me with respect to the
purchase of shams.

I vrent to the g.ol th,s wurr,inb and picked out a
person among twenty others; the male prisoner is
the person Iso picked out. I took him to the station
of the Southampton Railway about a quarter before
eight in the morning, and he had with him a small
box and a carpet-bag.

Cross-examined by Mr. Binns—The male prisoner
resembles the person I took up very much. I can't
say how many fares I had that day, or the day
before; I had as many as I could get.—(Laughter.)
Are you a keen observer of the passengers you
carry ?—I dare say I should know you again if I
saw you.—(Laughter.) (The male prisoner was
here observed to laugh.) I went round by Tooley-
street, which was a quarter of a mile out of my way.
Mr. Bodkin, at the conclusion of this evidence, said
—I do not intend to proceed further to-day, and
perhaps the solicitors fur the prisoners will consider
this the most convenient period for an adjournment.
Mr. Solonaons said he was willing to consent to any
arrangement which was approved of by the magis-
trate.

Mr. Bodkin said—lf, then, on the next day we
meet here any fresh evidence is gone into due inti-
mation of that intention will be given to you, and
in the event of your not receiving any notice to that
effect, consider that the remand of the
prisonerswi7Y ba a mere formal one, and that they
will be further remanded.
you

Mr. SECIKER then said that he would remand the
prisoners until to-morrow (Saturday) week.
Mr. Binns said there were some things of a trifling
nature in the carpet bag that was taken from the male
prisoner at Jersey, which he hoped would be given
up to him.

Mr. SECK Eli intimated that any article of dress, or
of ordinary use, which was required by the prisoner,
would be given up to him by the Governor of the
goal.

The passages leading to the goaler's room were
then cleared, and the prisoners were taken out of the
court, and before the lapse of many minutes, were
placed in the van and conveyed to ilorsemonger
lane Gaol.

The female prisoner was provided with a seal
during a considerable portion of the examination.

TATTERSALL'S—THIS EVENING
Six o'CLocx.

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