The Sun.
London, England, 1831-11-24 00:00:00

The fact respecting the army is one which I
wish Mr. Cobbett to make use of. The British
army is the best army in the world ; it is the most
moral army, and it is most beloved of any army
in the world.—(Hear, hear, and loud cheers.)—
Go into the remotest corner of Ireland--enter the
humblest peasant's cabin, and you will hear from its
inmates expressions of affection for the King's army.
--(Hear.) It is no exaggeration, for much as the
people dislike the yeomanry and detest the police,
they respect the British army.—(Hear, hear.) I
confess that I want to have this Union so extended
that there shall be members of it in every town of
Ireland—in every street of that town—in every lane
of every village—in every parish, in every house in
that parish—at least in every house that is not oc-
cupied by a disturber of the peace, and so that we
may organize a police which will save us the ex-
pence of 200,0001. yearly—which will also take
away a police having deadly arms, that we have
sometimes known to be used in the slaughter cf our
wives and children.—(Hear, hear.) This Associa-
tion ought to include every man friendly to the in-
terests of Ireland.—(Hear.) There is one topic on
which I will speak out. Ido not think tithes will
be paid for three years longer in this country.—
(Hear, hear.) In a great part of Ireland they have
not now been paid for two years.—(Hear, hear.;
And as to taking the army and police to serve tithe
processes, it will soon be found to he an useless and
an expensive proceeding. For the recovery of five
shillings' tithe some pounds' expense must be in-
curred by the clergyman, and by the time he has his
execution ready, the man may have neither goods
nor chattles on which it can be levied.—(Hear and
laughter.) It is a game which cannot be played.—
(Hear.) I am a father and a husband, and I can
well sympathise with the situation of the clergymen
of the Established Church. I know that many of
them are willing to adopt that plan which I have
before now suggested, of making a compromise with
the State.—(Hear.) I am for securing to them a
life interest, and I will not join in any other plan re-
specting the establishment.—(Hear, hear.) It was
but this morning that I had to pay 4/. 7s. to a clergy-
man whom I never saw, and who most probably I
will never see.—(Hear and laughter.) Now, if I
had that 4/. 7s. to pay to the Mendicity, I ask you
would it not be infinitely better for the poor ?
(Hear, hear, and cheers.) I now tell you, that in
the formation of this Union, Reform is my first ob-
ject—the internal peace and prosperity of Ireland is
my second object. I wish to organize all Irishmen
as special constables. I have often talked of
" O'Connell's police," and I have been taunted with
the term. I will not have the vanity to call them
so ; but I think that the " Political Union Police"
will supersede all others.—(Hear, and cheers.)
If there should be a commotion in England, I want
to be prepared for the time, and that instead of flying
into open warfare, and tearing out each others vitals,
the virtuous men in the community should stand
together, determined to put down crime, ready to
repress the spirit of turbulence, and resolved to
combine together to preserve the peace, and procure
the liberty of Ireland.—(Hear.) I have told you
what are my objects, and what the purposes for
which I desire to unite all classes of my country-
men.—(Hear.) Our mode of proceeding by this
Union will be by petitions to Parliament and by
committees, which will establish facts, and facts
which cannot be disputed, for they will not be all on
the one side. In England it has unfortunately hap-
pened that the operatives have been taken from the
middle classes. In England possibly there is a rea-
son for that separation; in Ireland there can be no
substantial reason for separation, for the interests of
the operative and the middle classes are completely
identified.—(Hear.) In these observations I avow
ihat I allude particularly to the Trades' Political
Union. I repeat it—l do not wish to see that
Union broken up and dissolved. I think there is
abundant occupation for that Union--I think that
it will be useful, and I am of opinion it should
continue to do its business publicly. If my ex-
perience—if any little faculties I possess can be
of any use to them, they shall most readily com-
mand me.—(Hear, bear, and cheers.) From the
nature of that Union, however, it is impossible
hat in a body so numerous, all its members could be
adm.tted here—the room could not contain them,
nor could they attend in the middle of the day ; be-
sides, their Union is confined to Dublin, and there
are many persons in trade through Ireland, who
eould wish to be members of our Union.--(Hear.)
But the existence of this body is quite compatible
with the existence of that. Neither shall we exclude
from this room any particular member of their body,
by reason of his not paying a pound, which every
member of this Union must pay upon being admit-
ted.—(Hear.) I now proceed to the details of this
society. I propose that it shall be on the same
basis as the Catholic Association.—(Hear, and
cheers.) I propose that the next annual subscrip-
tion of one pound shall be payable on the Ist Ja-
nuary, 1833. In the Catholic Association we had
a resolution makinst, the Catholic clergy of Ireland
members of that body,b without payment of any sub-
scription. I mean to change that resolution, and
propose that the clergy of all religious persuasions
shall be members of this Union.—(Hear, hear.)
We must, at the same time, get as many of the
Trades' Political Union to join us as possible, and
we must do so without entangling ourselves with
the law.—(Hear, hear.) By the bye, I may as
ant?t
ai ebees'
well remark that some of the newspapers have re-
ported me as speaking of " the insolence" of Mr.
Stanley ; the word used by me was not "insolence,"
but " haughtiness." Now I did complain of that
haughtiness, and I do still complain—the mildest arid
the most ancient of our Irish gentry who have had
access to him, have complained of that haughtiness.
Reform is the principal and the leading ohjeet of this
Union—let me remind the Irish people-s,let me re-
mind every man in this country who is favourable to
Reform, that lie is bound now to assist us upon
this account, The Reform Bill in England was ex-
tended last Session, while the Reform Bill for Ire-
land was narrowed.—(Hear.) Mark, this is another
feature with respect to Reform—that the Irish line
form Bill was more extensive in March letst----that it
was more in the first instance theo it was in the
last—that we went tc. 0.,;c ;:lections on the extended
Bill, and nctwitin-itanding that, though the people
of Ireland, without the aid of Government. exeept
in Dublin, arid they spoiled the job !Ley undertook.
But whenever the people qt;elopted it, they per-
formed it neatly and they left no bungling after
spsoktaennle:
them. I know thin, that in my own court.), there
was not man in the employment of Government
who was not against me, and yet my county did tit?,
job tolerably well, .antl so the people did it. every
where. The people did much mete:dp;pharensithnelyGino-
vernment for Reform,
narrower Bill ?—(Cheers.)
any country leg that the Bill for which the
pepplp had laboured, should, after all the 4 ,xe4.tios,
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have bean appointed to bring in the Scotch Bill,and
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