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• eendancy ; but on the contrary, that the wages of
official service had sunk .; and upon all the};rdaulls.
he had ti en the llbeity of arging,suppoetcd the
• .Amendment. •
Mr. CANNING Said) belied fortniftly supported
this Bill,
and pis be saw no grounds for altering.
his opinion, lie worth' give it his&i.sitp',!:tirt now,
• and briefly stated the grounds .ost*llich he did suti
He noticed that they-ought not to be influenced
in their opinion, especially in any matter of fi•
mince; •or' by any consideration of what reception
their Measures were likely to meet from the other
'House of Parliament. If, they badbea guided by
such principles, tha.slave trade would never have
been abolished. lie then adverted to Ole- origin
of the'tneasure, and contenAetlthat were it only •
to removta the public impressions on the subject
cif Sinecure places, it was advisable to pass the
lie, denied that its object :WAS to take from
the Crown tlfe power of rewarding public ser-,
vices : it was a snhstitution, • not an. abolition ;
and, in his opinion, substituted a 'preferable sys-.
tent to that now in use. fie ridiculed the argil-
uteut against' time's being the best measure by
'which rewards could beadjridged, and maintained
that it was not only the most harmless, but the
most just. But it was better than ehanee, which •
was the settle row applied. l'he Bill would effect
all the purposes which the advocates for no dimi-
notion of thepatronage of the. Crown had in view;
and a more unobjectionable way than by a grant,
runt he therefore gave it his support. . It was ana-
logous to the enlist ittitinh as it now existed ; and
in the state of the times, if it did uo more', wonld
4estroy thisrepresentatiohs, which would be Ten.-
dering the public an essential service
Mr. BATHURST thought, that in endeavonring
to steer clear of the difficulty of not diminishing,
the power of the Crown'on one hand. and to do'
away all ground for popular misrepresentation on
the other, the of this Bill had fallen into
still, greater difficulties: On the subject of ap-
pointments in the colonies, he agreed that sonic
legislative enactine:4ts should take place tit' lima
the licenses for absence, and 'noticed that the No-
ble Lord at the head 'of that department, had
. however done as much as 'individual exer-'
. Von could ticeomplish to remedy the evils
which existed', send. to render' the (takes. ef-
fective. Putting thiS aside, and looking at the
general question, he charaetised it ss a sweep
, ing measure tti,'•alter the Whole patronage of the
Crown. Ile. was surprised the. I hlc
tletnatt•sbotild refer to Mr. Burke as an example.
Mr..,Burke had done what he thought right, and
then. held his hand, left Untotiehed,. and recog.-
u4ed those offices, 'as lit, proper• constitutional
right, at, at which the Honourable Gentleman
armed his reforms. With regard to the arguini.int
as to time being a, proper measure of. ptiblie„ser-
vice, he argued, that 'where it had 'hitherto been
applied, it had been as a check upon the Crown,
and not in the .sense contenkled, for • by the. Right
HonOurable Gehtleman (Mr. Canning). As it

was, it lvould • he easy to state many+ cases in
whit+ the ,nublic service, eVen in subordinate
fonees, , root its
that, 10 the estiMation of the public, pensions.
wei!e. than sinecures., He conciaded,
by-0'01)0h6i deeided negative to the Bill.
Mr. CANNING and Mr. 13,yritoR?i
.mutually ex-
plained,
Mr. PoNsostny, adverting fa. part of the
speech of Etre Noble Lord (tastlevagh),
,in which
be had said that he did not entirely approve Of one
mode of disposing of Sinecure Places, which gave
an advaptage to those. wlio had been long in. of-
fice ; he, was tuirprised to hear any thing:so kind
and considerate froM the NOble'Lord... Nay, he
thought the ex fires y e
,joit to verX,tranrdinary, that
behepu to think that the Noble Lord wasactti-
ally tired of office. -But the expression was soon
:she; qualified by the Noble lord, with added,
".11 those -on the opposite side- of the Honsn
should ever be thonght fit to become Ministers."
He was sure that the Hon: Gentklriep beside him
felt very little inclination to thank the Noble
Lord for any such expression. But whatever
r,pinion thalloble Lord might liave. as to fitness,
he was sure that'll he and his friends eVer should
he in office, one of their very first acts would be
aholiSh thOse offices which were so burthen-
some to the public. The real merit- of the Bill
consisted in its putting. it into the Power. of the
Crown to reward personis who had performed real
.3.vioes, while it took away the power of bestow-
ing °tikes upon persons who were not deserving
of any such reward. It also gave to Parliament
the power of abolishing any offices which might be
thought unnecessary. He thought 'that the most
economical method of rewarding those who had

performed eminent services, was 1 y pensions, be-
calise when it was .doite go, the public knew the
exact sum which was given to each individual ;
kind he conceived it to be but just and proper, that
every man, when he paid his share of taxes,
should know for what purposes it was to be ap-
plied. On these prim iples be gave the Pill his
1,,,,,t cordial support.
Mr. STEPHEN spoke at considerable length
against the Bill, and ohjecfed particularly to that
part of itl,vhicla related to the bestowing of places
ill OW colonies.
Sir Jowl NEWPORT spoke in favintr of that
part of the Bill, which related to our Colonies.—
lie thought sinecure praces a burden upon the
because often conferred upon unworthy
pet sons. When a sinecure office became vacant
by the death of a holder, it very seldom occurred
that there should be at that exact time any pct.-
son who deserved the place on account of services
performed for the benefit of the country ; the con-
gnome was, that the office was conferred upon It
persou totally unworthy.
Mr. FL THoititrroN spoke in favour of . the