The Sun.
London, England, 1825-04-19 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

•
The SPEAKVB. took the Chair at a few minutes before four
o'clock. The Order of the Day for the *Call of the House haV.
ing been discharged, the Gallery was opened as usual.
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the parish
of Whitechapel, against the London Water Works EISII.--,Laid
'on the table. :
ZIETROPOLITAN FISH COMPANY.
Mr. crinTEN presented petitions front Dover and Kings.
land, against the Metropolitan Fish Compsny's'Bill.—Laid on
the table. • •
Similar petitions were presented from-Alargate,'Broadstairs,
and Folkstone, by .Mr. i:aleraft from a parish in Kent, by
Sir John floneywood, and from Samigate, by Sir Edward
Knatelibrill.—Ordercd to lie on :are table.
Mr. DICKENSON presented a petition from the Dean and
Chapter of Wills against the Western hhip Canal.—Laid an
the table.

1%l
r. ASTELL presented a similar petition from Bridgewater.
—Laid on the table.

lord A LTHOR PE preeeuted a petition from. the A ttorni.e
of the Coutity of Nor:hampton, in favour of the County Coura
.8111.—Laid on the table:

c.LIUTcIIINSON moved the second sending of the
Limerick pridie BM: ' •
Sir .1. NEW PORT presented petitions from tin' towns of
'Waterford and Newry, against- any alteratior..s n the -Butter
Trade.—Laid on the table. • • . •

LINEN DUTY. •
Mr. LINDE;A presented ,o. pcitionfroni the Linen Menu..
facturera, Ling, ;Ilerchnzt3, tic. &c. of the County of Perth,
against repealing the Duty on Foreign Linen. The Honour_
able Gentleman pri:sin;tod a similar petition it.pm Dundee..—
Ordered to be printed,

CATHOLIC CLAIMS.
Lord CHA N DOS presented a Petition from the town of
.Buckingham against any further concessions to -the Catholics.
—Ordered.to be printed.
Similar Petitions were presented from the Chancellor and
.Clergy of Ely, and from• the Inhabitants of Ely, and from
Dartmouth, by Lord C, Manners; from Tantworth,• by. ;11r,
W.. Peel ; from Reed and - Ben combe, by Lord :Lowther ;
from - the Grand Jury of the county of Fermanagh ; from
Tempo and .11.1‘enire',,bridge,'Joy. Gen.Archdale; from Lei.
cester, by 'Mr; Mansfi,:•ll • from •Ripon, in:Yorkshire, by Mr.
Gibbs; froth Warwick, by 7 Mr. •Blttekburnrt.; from Warring;.
ton, by Mr. Palmer ; from Peterborough,. from St. Cliks,
Northampton ; from Wellingborough, from • Weldon, and
from:the. Arclideaconry and Clergy •of Peterborough,• by Mr.
Cartwright •• from .Preston, by • Mr. Horrocit:i from •IVey=
mouth, by 7AI:-. Wallai•e; front the .Preberdary and Cleriry of
Norwich, by Mr. IV. Bankes ; from the Clergy of Sudbury,
by Mr. Tulk ; from the Archdeaconry of Leicester, by Lord
R. Manners; from Knutsford, Malpas, and • Lialrwyth,-in
the county of Chester. by Mr. Egerton-; from liridgtortb an 3.
Stockton, by Mr..-Whitmere; from -the Rural .Deanery and
Clergy of Cirencester, by Mr. Cripps-; from the London ClerA
:from St. Alban's, and from the Diss,-nters of the Surrey.strert
Chapel, - br Alr. T. Wilson ; from the county of Surrey,. from
Aldbury, and from the Parish St. Saviour';,. Southwark, by
Mr. Home Sumner frcnn A Ilbrighton, by Mr. RIckford••1211F11
Nottingham, bt7 Admiral iiotheron and from .Easton,- ey
Buchanan,—all of which were ordered to be printed.
Admiral SOTIIERON presented a similar petition from the
Archdeacon and Clergy of the Arch&aeonry of Nottingham, ---
Oraefed to he'printed. . • • -
Petitions against the Catholic lu ll were presentedfrom-the
follOWinp: inhabitantkaf the town tof Cheiten.
hair, Itridport in bevonthire, the Borough of Ashton., and the
.towti of Bristol.

Colonel DA WK INS presented .sitr,ihr petitions from the
Clergy and inhabitants of lloroughbridge. The Aignaturel, he
raid, were most tecpettable, and he wicked to take that oppor.
tunity of saying. that they expressed hir. of et ntiments,—
Ordered to be printed. • -

The same flon: 'Member, presentetl'a petition' from the Dean
and Clergy of the 'Deanery of lloroughbridge, agakist.the Uni-
tarian 'Marriage 'Bill--Ordered to Le printed.
Petitions against the Catholic Chinos were presented fretn
:it ie Royal Borough of Stirling, from -the Ilurgesireseit;il other
inhabitants' of the town of carnarvone from the i3hiibiiants
of
,(Q;gsgow,..the inhabitants of- Mansfield,. the •Fr,,shytery of
Linlithgove;, the Archdeacon and Clerky • or the A E:-,tlile,stt 4il z y
of flichester. . • • - • • • .
Abe Secretary PEEL said he held in, hie hand a ti{trttt;rr of
similar petitions 7:- some from the Clerwve some fttitn. persons
nut connected with the t'lergy, anti wheel' fc,,111- di"enfirie
conEregations, both here and. in geotland. •Thialgri
to present thrse,petitiots. he had 'no k.mowledge or the parch e.
He aereit ten thaleTlTiiiciple he:hefore professed, of rim:attempt -
ing to influence in,any way the ilentirrient*, of: iinyeelass cf
petitioners on this siihject. The petitions were entirely pi:-
suggested by. hint, and Were the volentary eyprcersioraseif the
opinions of .those- who signed them. Ile, in- no ireitance,±el.l
any coMmunication with the parties ur.til the peiititros had
.beers agreetktthe . He receiyed-.some -letters •requeittiogr that tie
would presitit.lhem to the Ifouse, and his:eireiwer.was,- that it'
' they were colfelted f n respectful language he ooi4l4,have e.
objection. • -
• The Right lion. Gentleman thehpresanted,theinliowing pe-
titions, which Were read and ordered to be printed s—Yroin the
`-Clergy resident in. the town arid parishes of 31anchester ; the
Archdeacon and Clergy of•-the East Riding. of Yorkshire; the
Dean and Clergy of the Denary- of Came:teary ; the 41.reh-
deacon and Cterir;y of the Arcledeaconty. of Yorke the'Mini3trr
anti Churchwardens of the Vont:rue:ration anCElllAcii,in Queen's-
square Chapel, ViestOeinster ; from •the Mieiieter and Congre-
gation of the Illptist Meeting-fie-use in Goodrrnin's;-hehls ; -Isom
the Protestant Dissenters of -the-Baptist' 310etiots Lyon-
greet, New-road ; il•oni the undersigned inhabitants of, L -
I,thgolei"-of-Poisiey, and of the parish of leisirktihago4.- frcul the
Elders, arid Assoc fete Presbytery of Citlam2sok; from
the
-era:ll7:riltifilUsbileri?l?:ti'itsilidet:ilrilg"nrehcgi‘taFilifiottn4h'eni'frCcKj7enanidgt:hl''Fmere' ii:atit:eYiete:GYun:at?‘tgll76l::l4);°(tlnti
:Ylayt-r. eetor, C. ' of N w eas tfc• upon-Type' from Stokely.,.
the county of York; Barnstaple,,' in I.)evria; the )abut itants Di
the: town4ti Wet-hort4 ; CastleDallatil,• in:Leicestershire
Untiibeer4rieivinire'iriulelhittl:fsirnienlsn,
ee.tßll.ll4;:t Cci:lT'erstinr„eYeethfee...Vco:°' "tiet,lp3aar'fets‘h*Vi:cri'C't;C:ikx is t Church .Spitaltield.T; from

Gentry, and inhabitants of Oldham, signed by 11p-
waeds of two thousand. , • -
JURIES' BILL.
Arr. Secretary PF.EL postponed to Monday next the further
cro,ideration of the Report of the Juries Bill.
The following petitions were presented against the Catholic
:—From the Minister, undersigned Churchwardens, and
Overseers of the parish of Stoke, in the county of Warwick;
from Allerton ; from the Clergy, 'Gentry, Protestant Dissenters,
;..nd others of the Hundred of PeTTITIg, in Brecknock ; the
blister and Congregation of ti Le pa.risii of St. John Lewis, the
iihabitants of the parish of Stoketon, and of three other pa.
in the county of Dorset.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE,. in presenting some petitions of a
•Toriter nature, said, he did not know the parties from whom
.eame. He • received-letters requesting that he would offer
them to the House, and he thought it his duty to do so. The.
reae.iis• and arguments they cOntaincd appeared to him unan-
so..erable., He wished to take this opportunity dee:reed:l-g the:
..I.arge of a-I.:Idly he had brought against the country upon a
former occasion. That ,sort of feeling had been now raisedl
amonor the purple against any further concession to the -Catlio-;
. tics, rich he trusted would excite a similar spirit in the
It was Ins linn opinion that it was the feeling of the 'great 'ma-
jority of the population of this &witty. The Hon. Member.
then presented the.folloWing petitions :—Froto the undersigned.
Parishioners, Churchwaidens, and Overseers, of the parish of
Luke, in the .county of ~liddlesex ; from the Protestant
Dissenters of Red-cross-street Chapel ; from the total of Farm,'
n Yorkshire; and from two or three other places, the names of
-which we could not hear, they were pronounced in so indistinct.
a manner.—Ordered to be printed. , • -
Lord F. L. GOWER presented a petition from the FiSher-.
elen of the harbour of Whitby against the Marepolitan Fish
Company.—Ordered to be printed.
CATHOLIC BILL.
l'etitionsagaink the Catholic Bill were presented from the
and liberties of Wenlock, and from two_ parishes in the
of Southampton, the names of which we could not

t :
Sir E. ii.N.ITCLIBULL, in presenting the following peti-
on the same subject, said,- Olathe expressed the sponta.._
!..Jous sentiments of those whose names were signed to thern
From the Clergy of the, Prebt'calary of. Canterbury, the inha—
bit:Lots of trie parish pf Reckenhatn, the Churchwardens, Over-
ors, and inhabitants of the parish of Adlington, the inhabitants
ur East Peckham, of. Chatham, of Ramsgate, ,of Wye, and.

A sliton.
1401'4 R. SOMERSET presented similar petitions from.
Newlaod in the county of Gloucester, from the parish of,Stone-
house, and the freeholders of Stone, in the same county.
Petitions against the Catholic Claims were presented froin
the Rural Dean and Clergy of • Chippen Hampton, from the,.
Clergy end Churchwardens of various towns in Cornwall, from
the inhabitants of. Watford. Three petitions of a eirnilar
- :hem. were presented from the Protestant Dissenters and Fre-
ouenters of the Union Chapel' of Brighion.a-Ordered to lie on
the table.
A 3I tuber, whose name did run reach us; presented a peti-
tion from the Inhabitants of I)liltan against the Metropolitan
_grab Con pay.—Ordered to lie op the table.
Lord NUGENT' presented a petition from the Roman C.
of Preston, "t; igan, and Liverpool, complain;; of their
eeelusion from the rights of subjects, and-staling the peculiar
hardships of their situation. The Noble Lord thought it would
be emsally conducive to the interests of the petitioners-and re-
specaul to the House, to forbear from Making any fetrther eons-
rhents mpon the contents of the petition until to-morrow night,
Ordered to lie on the table.
BUBBLE ACT.
Mr. P., MOORE postponed his motion respecting the 6th of
f;,-orge. 1., until Monday next.
PETITION' FOR REPE OF THE TEST ACT.
Mr. BROUGHAM presented _a petition from the inhabitants
of Great and Little Bolton, to which he begged to call t heat
tedtion of the House.' It bore the signatures of many thousands
of the inhabitants of Lancashire.- It made no particular refer-
eeee tome bill at present-before the. house upon the subject of
what were called the C'atholic Claims. It complained ingeneral
terns of the, hardship, of the injustieee and the iamolley Of sub-
jeCtingin y class of persons to disability in =sequence of their
religious opinions, arid prayedthat all ttnts should be done away.
The prayer of this petition accorded perfectly with his own opi-
ni:Mst rtpon the subject, ex pressetti.epeatedly here and elsewhere.
Ile held the same opinion with the.petitioncrs respecting all tests
whatever. He thought they shOulti never be applied to-matters
of religious belief; arid it was upon the principle of this general
toleration that he supported the Catholics ; in their demands of
those rights which should be granted to all. In his opinion, a
man shuttle be no more accountable for his' religious opinions
or-belief than heshould he for any mental feeling, or physical
act: which he could not govern or controut The-conse-
quence of the tests was to make men hypocrites; they never
trected an alteration of religious opinion. This being his des'
wetted Opinion upon the subject,' he ryasboand to declare that
lie had listened with sorrow, with pain, and. With bitter disap-
oehttment for a fern niinuteS to some of the. petitions.presented
the Right Hen Gentleman opposite, and :the'Heitottrable
illember for SoMersetshire, who were naly, it appea.i.s,• for the
!hat time,• admitted to the confidence of thc-se. With whom the
c-.yt:fions to which he-allneledneiginated. - It was impossible for
express - feed in gs of -sorrOwe at,d of shame, wheti he
Jeleeted upon the quarter from which these petitions caMes
'.l'hat petitions of a certain description should be presented by
, tna Hon. Member for Ken'tsthat-they should darken the floor,
end cover the table, was not a matter asurprise ;:they were got
trl in a manner perfectly regnlar,they were signed by the Deans,
Archdeacons, Rectors, and Churchwardens. This was a regular
cseiirse of things, and perfectly consistent with propriety; but-1
when heturned to the class-of.petitionera to nhom he now al-;
bol&d, he was at once surprisetiand mortified to see Members
ofthat most respectable portion of the community—a portion
wheeh he held in most profound -respect, and whom. he had
anon almoar all occasions known to he distinguished for 'their
ten .7>iety in procuring the united blessings of civil and religious
Pierty,-,lie meant the Dissenters. If there was any class more
than another of his Majesty's subjects that should not address
the Hbuse upon the subject, it, should be these persons. Ile,
lowever,
r trusted that these honourable and worthy individuals
would be aware, - that as discussion was that for which they
ntways affected to be most anxious, as toleration was a word
.ultyliyit upon their-lips, they were therefore bound to promote,.
in this instance, that discustion by a zeal,
,for which they were
-eye: signalized, and grant that toleration to others who differed
thorn theMseives. He trusted _a little discussion upon the sub-
net woald 'have the effect of making these persons alter their
episions. Whilst upon the subject, he could not refigin from
reminding them of the grievous inconsistency of which they.
aerc guilty. -Do they forget, that,- though not excluded from
that Louse, though not excluded from tile enjoyment of offices,
the manner in which' they obtain these advantages, they oh-.
Isiti them by conniyarce. And why. because they are Dissen-
terbecatse they act conscientiously according .to their own
religions belief, and this operates as a civil disqualification.
"They possess privileges through the connivance of the annual
edernity Bill ; hitt for this, they woold be all liable to penal-
. ties. Why,- because they worship' God, as they think pro-.
ty r. 'They possessed their privileges amen- sufferance, because
acted_ conscientiously ; and they should grant the same
,intnefits to the Catholics, from whom the doors of. all offices,
great and small, were barred, for the same reasons, as they were
e barred against them. .Z.lpon a discussion of this description, the
nit me of a Sovereign (.James -I I.) was apt to occur. He reef&
leczed the Address .of• the Quakers to- this Monarch, it Was to
:f ' is effhet :ass" We hettrethey said, that thou art not a Member
of the Church:6f England-any more titan me: We therefore ask
Of thee thht teleration• Which' thou requirest for thyself."
• (Mr. B.) would with great respect ask tile Dissenters (Whom he
rt^.ll*;•tecl more than the Quakers slid James lie ins
seed respected.morc than lie did any 'Sovereign whatever, as lie
ConeeiVed a great portion of valuble 'Members of the Society
were onttoae importance than any Kinee) what they would say'
• if the Catholics addressed them as the Quakers did the Monarch
to whom he alltides ? If they, said Friends-, Dissenters, you. as
well as we labour under various ; we are excluded
-from all places and: offices as well as you .therefore., :Friends,
bear with us for a season as the State bears with you. Spare to us
a portion of that toleration which we ":ore more in waneof, and
which is dealt out by theyear to your. Ile felt hiniself compelled
ta make few other observations. Some-of these petitions came
from Scotland ; this'b na.s
e owned, mortified hint st-sit a little. All
the MentherS of the House frornahat country arta supposed to
be Pre-s,byterians-,-bnt the Gentlemen of that cotintry bad been in
Other depart:nem:a:which it was supposed PANbyterians could
rot fill. He knew how attached they were to the conscientious
discharge of their religious dtities,- but thereVeere other things to
which they were perhaps more strongly attached, and he would
ask-the Scotch Gentlemen how they would feeb if the doors of all
offices-were-shut in their faces, if they wererto debarretnot
all the offices to-which they may aspire, front that of Constable
to that of Lord Chancellor: and 'he knew diem to possess all
these. He knew them to be Lords Chief Justices of the King'
s
Bench and CommOn Pleas. He would say the law required of
.stech persons a savage sacrifice—for he could call it nothing
else. It required them to take the Sacrament according to •the
custom of our Church. -As-advantages bad been given to the
Dissenters by the Annual Indemnity Act, why should not the
Irish Catholics avail themselves by the same means of ob-
taining access to similar advantages? He hoped sincerely,
that a little discussion Would open the eyes of the worthy per-
sons whO signed the petitions, aiVrteach them to alter their
cpinioos. It was to hies a cowifertable reflection, that but
a few of the Dissenters hattiigned these. petitions, and
those who were subscribers; bad perhaps done so with-
o-st much thought.' He Maintained, those who signed the peti-
tions were few in number, compared with the millions of Dis-
senters to be found in the country. It was known, that almost
half of those who were called Protestants were Dissenters. Few