The Sun.
London, England, 1831-06-23 00:00:00

greater than to suppose that Ireland never was a manu-
facturing country. Before machinery bad beer. brought
to such perfection in England, the manufactures of Ire-
land were considerable, and then peace and prosperity pre-
vailed in that country. Even during the late war there
was something like prosperity in Ireland—there was a
demand for Irish produce—everything Irish could be,
sold—even the rtien to flil`the ranks of the army. - He
sincerely hoped that some good might he done by the in-
troduction of,a system of Poor Laws, but be was-not so
sanguine as to hope that that measure would accomplish all
which the friends of Ireland expected.
Lord ALTHORP denied that the local distresses in Ire-
land arose out of any other than natural causes—it pro-
ceeded from a failure of the crop. As to the Poor Laws,
respecting the introduction of which into Ireland so much
had been said, he must be allowed to observe that the more
Hon. Member* reflected upon them, the more would the'
be convinced that the subject was one of the greatest diffi-
culty. Applying himself to the remark made by an Hon;
Member in the course of the present conversation, re
specting the abundance of fertile land and willing labourets
in Ireland, the less necessity there was for additional ca-
pital to be employed for agricultural purposes.
Mr. SADLER denied that he had said any thing of the
sort.

Lord ALTHORP regretted having fallen into such a
mistake, and then went on to reply to that part of the
Hon. Member's speech which complained of the vague-'
ness of the Speech from the Throne in that part where
the circurastane.es of Ireland were adverted to. He con-
tended that the subject was one of extreme difficul•y ; that
it would be exceedingly imprudent for the advisers of the
Crown to have committed, themselves to any greater ex-
tent ; and that, above all things, it was their duty not to
provoke premature discussion. Nothing could be more
mischievous and inconvenient than bringing forward dis-
cu..iori, otherwise than when regularly fixed and ap-
pointed. Respecting, the laws between landlord and
tenant, he confessed that his impression was that those
laws ought not to be relaxed ; he thought nothing ought
to be done to loosen those ties which led to the employ-
ment of capital in agricultural speculations. Recurring
to the subject of the poor laws, he must repeat that the
greatest caution was necessary—that the Government was
most anxious to do all in its power, but that if driven__
as he feared they ultimately would he driven, however
reluctantly--to the adoption of such a system, they ought
previously to leave no measure untried fo►r otherwise
ameliorating the condition of the labouring classes in Ire-
land by the introduction of capital, and, if possible, by cre-
ating a demand for labour, in the hope that eventually no
system of poor laws might be required.
Mr. RUTHITEN deplored the necessity there was for
Poor Laws; but felt that those who were disposed to be
charitable ought to be protected from the necessity of fre-
quent donations, while those on whom the obligation of
providing for the poor equally rested ought to be com-
pelled to do their duty.
The report was then brought up, and the Address
agreed to.

Mr. HUNT then rose to bring forward his motion re-
specting the interference of Peers in the election of Mem-
bas of that House, but after a few observations with-
drew it.