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power to offer such suggestion; as may appear to them best
calculated to promote its prosperity, and with full pawns
to call for persons, papers, and records.
Mr. NH- noLsoN, in a brief but pointed speech, secoried
the resolution.

Mr. WARBURTON agreed with Mr. Yates as to the ex-
cellent prospects which the institution might have for pro-
,noting education, and for raising an income equal to meet
their expenditure, had not certain disagreements heel,
thrown in the way, which had prevented the good the)

had all anticipated. He was therefore favourable to tie
institution of the Committee for which the Rev. Gentle-
mm had moved. He thought that the Council ought to
have the advantage of the opinion of the great body of pro-
arietors, in examining into the course which the Council
hod hitherto followed, and in devi.ing a remedy for an)
thing wrong which they might unintentionally have sanc-
tioned. He would shortly go over the reasons which Mr.
Yates had given for his motion, as he thought that Air.
Yates was perfectly in order in stating them. That gen-
tleman had first stated, as one of the evils of our system—
srising„ though he did not say so, out of the members o.
nit,e council being too numerous—that on one day some
individuals of the Council agreed to one course, and
that on another day other individuals of the Coun-
cil set aside and recommended another. Now this
certainly was an evil, and he hoped that one of the sug-
gestions of this committee to the proprietary would be,
that the number of the Council should either be tempo-
rarily or permanently restricted ; or that there should he
ene governing body, appointed by them, with an uni-
formity of proceeding, on which all persons interested,
the Council, the Professors, and the students might be
able to calculate. At present the want of uniformity in
the resolutions of the Council was any thing but salutary.
Again, certain funds of the institution had been devoted
to the support of the dispensary. It was reported that
the attendance of some of the medical professors was not
so regular as might have been expected. It was therefore
determined by the Council that their apothecary should
give an account to them of the attendance of the pro-
fessors. This resolution was objected to by some of the
professors, as implying on the pat t of the Council a want
of confidence in their regularity; and the consequence
was, that at the next meeting of the Council this very
wise resolution, as he (Mr. Warbutton) thought, calling
for an account of the attendance of the Professors was set
aside. One word now as to the regulations about enforcing
discipline. He did not understand the Rev. Gentleman
to state that there had been any riotous or disorderly con-
duct on the part of the students within the walls of the
University. All that be had complained of amounted to
this—that there was 4) roll-c ill, by which to ascertain
whether the students attended the lectures or not.
It would be inn the recollection of the proprietors that
it was one of the recommendations of the Council, at
the commencement of the first session, that the beadle at
the door should every day put down the names of all
the students who attended. The Professors said that this
would be an exercise of authority inconsistent with their
functions, and the recommendation of tine Council was not
attended to. In his opinion the Council ought to have in-
terfered and enforced it. It had been said, too, that the
parents of the students had at present no means of know-
ing whether their children were making a satisfactory
progress in their studies. Now the Council originally in-
tended that the Professors should in all the classes, save
those of medicine, make a monthly return to the warden
of the progress made by each student. To this course
again the Professors objected. Now he was of opinion
that if the attendance of the students had been regularly
checked by the beadle, and if the returns made monthly by
the Professors to the warden had been regularly persisted
in and forwarded to the parents, the public would not have
heard of any of the objections now made to the want of
discipline i❑ the University. The Rev. Gentleman had
likewise complained that the Professors had no power col-
lectively as a body. To that he would merely reply, that
in a new Institution like this they ought not to be preci-
pitate in delegating away the power of the Council. It

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was an unfortunate circumstance that the Professors were
all appointed without signing any paper as to the condition
of their tenure of their Professorships. He conclueed by
once more expressing his gratification that a Committee
was to be appointed to examine into and to remedy the
errors of Council, and he trusted that their report would
be sanctioned by the proprietary.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, all that his Hon. Friend
Mr. Warburton—from whom, as a member of Council,
he had sometimes differed—all that his Hon. Friend had
said merely proved that there was a great variety of opi-
nions among the members of the Council. There was one
point which the Council, the proprietary, and the era.
feseors ought never to lose sight of, and that was, tLat the
only one great principle which could give this society suc-
cess, was the principle of conciliation,—(Great cheers.)
He therefore could have wished that the Rev. Gentleman
had spared the observations which he had made respecting
the promptitude of the Council to expend money azd to
create places. Ile declared upon his honour, that whilst
he had been a member of the Council, be had never
himself been actuated by, nor had he seen any other tnem-
lows of the Council actuated by any thing like interested
motives.—(Cheers.) He thought that if this Committee
were appointed, there would he found, on examination,
much to be applauded, much to be lamented, but nothing
to he censured, io the conduct of the Council ; nay more,
nothing which could prevent this institution fro-4 'acquir-
ing great celebrity as an instructor of yet;,th, and a disse-
minator of knowledge. He wishe4 this motion to be con-
sidered as a mere initiatory witeitture, and, in the expegts.
don that it would 2;(1 abroad that nothing was dee;ded here
to-day, he uheald give it his support.
Colonel JONES also supported the motion. As one of
the requisitors he begged te, state, for himself and his bro-
ther requisitors, that They had no latent wish to east any
slur upon the All they wanted was, t,t get rid
of the difActilties which checked the progress of the in-
stitutien to that perfection which they all anticipated. It
would have been better for the institution had this inquiry
been instituted at an earlier period ; but wheel the motion
for it was last made, it was refused by tba lawyer-like
interference ut a very influential personage.—(hisses.)
Mr. P. TAYLOR sai,d, that if there was any fault in
this case, the bl;tme of it ought to resit as much up= the
proprietary as upon the Council. All that they could now
do was, to rectify past errors ; and ha hoped that the
Committee, which they were now going to appoint, would
effect such alterations in the present system as would pro.
duce the permanent prosperity of this institutin,

Mr. W'. TOOK E said, that nothinr :4'441 be more gra
tifving to him personally than, tx appointment of a Ct,m
mince.

Mr. et.tat-KE hoped that they would hare r d an una-
nimous vote on this motion. Ile was sorry that
Mr. Yates had gene so much iota detail as he had done.
If, instead of pursuing that course, he had merely :AA
that differences of opinion as to the proper manaiement of
the institution existed among the Counci;,, he would have
laid sufficient grounds for the poiprietors to investigate
those differences.

Mr. R. O.:Eu objected in general to the arrarviitents
of the institution. The worthy gentleman, was going into
an explanation of his peculiar theory of society, when he
was met by a loud and pitilvas storm of hisses, which be
bore with the equanimity of a stoic.
Mr. Hu:ai at last interposed. They Wee met that
day, not to discuss what system z.f education was best,
but to decide whether a Committee should be appointed to
inquire into, tha nature and appointment of the prewar
Council. He was sure, therefore, that his Ho•.:.
with his experience in public matters, mat see that he
was out of order.

Mr. R. OwEN pmisted for a short time longer 7, ha
finding the zeluetance of the meeting to listt-Al to his spe
oul..tive opinions on mankind insuyeabie, at length sat
down.

The res,olv,t;;4l was thin put in the ordinary way, and

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Air. HOME then proposed reJoh.z:;ic,,n to the effect, that
the proposed Committo cons ,9t of nine persons, I,f whom
five shall ho,a q4ornm. In so doing he took occasion tr.,
express', iris, deep regret that a man of such respect4;lity
and talent as the Warden should have been attacked as_ he
had been on the presmt occasion, lie asserted that there
was not the slightest shadJv of pretence for saying that
the appointment of the Warden was a job. The only
error committed on that head was, that the Council had
fixed too high a rate of salary for the Warden, in conse-
quence of the sanguine expectations of the success of Vie
institution which some of its members entertained. In
conclusion he !novel that the following gentlemen consti-
tute the Ciimmitter Booth, Fearon, Gowan,