The Sun.
London, England, 1813-05-08 00:00:00

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gnarAntet. new limtdver, ,hatl since learnt, not
only that the guarantee was refused, but that it
had been stated, a toll would not be paid by the
men of war who passed through it. He now wishdd
to hare the 15th B.eport of the Conimissioners of
,Naval Revision produced: If this Woe refused,
he should then move tor the appointment of a
Se-
lect Committee, to take into consideration the plan •
he had mentioned. If the Company were allowed
to levy a toll on all vessels passing illackWall, the
Comimny were then willing to undertake the work
without the proposed guarantee.. This he thought
necessary, ,for as some persons' would go a peat
deal out of their way to avoid a turnpike, so others
would take their vessels into danger, to evade it
toll. If then that which it was •expected would
cost 6,000,0001. in 1808, aid which probably could.
not now be Completed for leSs than 8 or 16,000,000 i. ,
could be thine without at so little cxpence, or risk
of expellee, as attended this plan, every advantage
being obtained which could be hoped, from the
projected establiOlment at Northfleet, (excepting
that at Northfleet vessels would be one or two
tides nearer the sea), would they Consent to aban7
don or destroy the dock-yards of.. Dept ford and
Woolwich.? Before the Commissioners again re-
commended the formation of such an establish-
ment, he hoped they would at least take this. into
their most serious consideration. He then moved
an Address to the Prinee•Rcgent, praying that he
would dli'ect ft copy of the 15th Report of n tae —out-
mis:;ioners of Naval Revision to be laid before the
}loose.

Mr. CROKER' said, the Hon. (lentleman had
grounded his motion on two assumptions; one,
that Governinent was about immediately proceed-
ing to form a dock-yard at Northileet ;. the other,
that the yards of Deptford and Woolwich must in
consequence be abandoned. If these grounds for
the motion existed, he would have some right to
call on Government for the reasons which had in-
fluenced their conduct. He, however, was pre-
mature,. in assuming that an, establishment at
• Northtleet was definitiVely resolved upon ; and
still more so, in assuming that the abandonmeot
of the. dock-yards, at Deptford and WooltyiPh
would he co:isequent on such a resolution. The
ground, how:A:tn., on which lie should opp;me the,
motion, wle, isi.oply this, that whenever Go %Till -
!Tient deterni.oed on „carrYing the Nortbdeet phi ii
into effect, the; tvould come down to that House
and produce (he, papers called for by the Hot].
Gentleman, He thought the Hon. Gentleman
would be satisfied, after being- informed, that
whenever that ease oceurred,l which he had sup-
posed to exist at present, the papers, he. now
thought nevessary would be granted.
ItoSli doubted the utility of the proposed
cult, and believed, if it were made, very few mer-
chant vessels would pass through it. He stated
this ,after making very extensive inquiry.l-k
objected to the proposed guarantee, and observetl
the present project was only a part of the Original
. plan of the projector (with whom he had had
some correspontxnee), for he had haul it in con-
templation to pin ,aside the poor Thames altoge-
ther, by making a cut from Vauxhall.
Mr. I'. Moon: spoke in favour of the plan, and
,supported the motion.
Mr. LIZRPERT shortly replied, and the question
being put, the motion was negatived.
Mr. 1.:11J411T then moved, That a Committee
be appointed to inquire kvliether the plan of the
Royal Clarence Canal (a Bill for making which
was in its progress through the House), 'was or
was not practicable, or whether or ,no,t it would
obviate the delays and inconveniencies experienced
in the passage of vessels from Woolwich to Erith;
and further, to inquire, whether it would shorten
the passage of vessels from Deptford and Wool,
'with, so much as to render the establishment of
a Dock-yard at. Nortlifleet unnecessary; and there-
by obviate the necessity of destroying or aban-
doning the Dock-yards of Deptford and Wool-
wich, and to repOrt on the propriety of guaran-
teeing to the Company who might. undertake this
work, if approved, the interest of their capital
(300,0001.) employed- in carrying the project into
effect."

Mr. CROKER tiaw no reasom for the motion; and,
trusted the house, adhering to its uinifor►u prat-`
tice, would hold out no delusive hopes to those
concerned in; this speculation, which appeared to
be at its last gasp, and which could not he revived
without the assistance of Parliament.

After a few words from Mr. HERBERT, Mr.
ROAR, Mr. Alderman ATEmis, and Mr. P.
NlooßE, the question was put and negutived.—Ad-
joarned.

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