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*inflexion, we have the proof offrom the very DeClaratiOn. It the Context were looked to, •it
4onduct of the enemy, iodependeet of our Own opi- i would al pc • that the words .of M: TalleySsind
niotoof the matter. The suspicion soon rose that the referre, not. generally, . but to a, snecitic ebe
Treaty would net be. ratified, and then a different jet—to Sicily. Bet even had theise words not •
language was held oy the French Gat'eroment. Then applied .to
~:a .specific
-object, G;:eterritnent t etc •..
tney %,‘ oold give its still better terms.; and though not 'warranted in _aAing on - the words of • a
before they contended for separate Negotiations, they Minister in conversations of which 'no - retort
wouid„ vow accede, to •n joint offer of terins.. Equi- had
_at the time been made, slid whiche 'as bad
valentsoare.offesed for Sicily e several ofthe. points. I been since: evinced, that Minister was very' capable
Which Russia: considered essential to her ioterests I of denying. It Was important ta'recollea, irtappli--;
would have been granted---but then we were to ne- ,cation.to tins and any other Negotiatnm, that a real.
get'ette .again'ot. the es.pc.snce of Ora Clonesioo with and legitimate Negotiation could only be curried on •
Russia. Better teettlS are oli[ered to Ressia ,but Ire- leyee
• pi written or signed be Mioisters, or by ,
jetted. If then, after those nesgininimons.preots of confetences svnitten clown at the time:, and also
thennost faithful attachmetit, we hed desertedour , signed by those Who were engaged inethem.—
' Ally, w'tn,t, ~vould have beech cur disgrace l what our It . was true, that tbr the purnaSe Oln-emoying mi-
degradation l• :• hot we. anticip..th,a the result of the oor difficulties, it hael-bteeu . sometimes the preiaice"
Empercir ,`ale; resoltitien, and instructed the to publi.h subseqUent accopnts of conversations; but
British. ,Niiiiister, to onite our interests' still Mont still they were ex' parte assertions; and, howeYer
closely with those of Risssia.• I will not enumerate the true, pever could cotistittite an official document. If
tillers held Cant as the:price ()four disgSace : for had we there WaS any part of a Negotiation to Wlsieh this re-
incorred.it it could.not be conipeat&tted by all We ,or niark applied, it was to the basis of a Negotiation;
France heve,,ceniquered.:: We were lett, howeyer, for unq nia uestioblye if the establishment. "of a basis
in possession of what vrance, without obtawung a bad any object, it was tcs fix something definite, freni.
,can.never
naval dislodgesupenority us from;
.Mil- _which neither party could 'afterwards 'reeede with •
ta, the ye, Hatiover, Tobago, SS:c. but we Intve honour, and Which
.would serve as a criterioo by
escaped. he indelible ,disgrace of retaining- then on Which the World Might be enabled to jOdge of the
see-hetet-Ins. , We:are hour tnore than ever bound to .
,good, failh of the negotiating- Powers. Fle 'oy; nq
IlliS,,il, not onisealnY the'nobleness.of her recent con-
:Means intended to say, that it was not tbe •full. belief
dud, bat be the 'Moderate terms on which she
would have .made ,Peace, and given us her consent i to Cie BritiSh GOverrithent, that the•Prench GoVern- ,
to [IOW peace. also.. She only demon-led from 'Men t meant to negotiate' on . the basis of the uti
Pr.,lnce to aritlivlraw from that territory which had j pessi.dstise This belief might have been very good•
no. connexion with • France, but wai• held by her' ground for fUrther nroceedipg, , but:surely it was tie"-
for the purpose of fatore atiunance and attack;. and ' cesiiiry,.
_as it had always' been done on simiar in-•
-agg-randisernent, and therefore indicated 'a spirit, stances, to'demand a categorical eXplanationin writ-
s% hear • incompatible :with Peace. The. wish on.' inn, of the real intentions or France, as a prelithinaty.
the. part of linisla - that Fratice svotild relinquish
.step to Cater into-any details, or tit furnishing a Mi-
it, did not:arise froM a desire to occupy ii; her- : tli:i'ter With ample powers to treat. ; This was a
self, bit that it Might senTas,a barrier to AnStria `i point on which precision. was . more necessary
and . Hangs -y„, -and' inset, no room tor ethe coati= . than on any other. It beeanie, more , necessary,
• - pilaf alan.o which by its possessien Fk'iince• s' as able - and . Was 'more material, .after the "'Declaration
to:IAA-el:over both Countries: Stich vss.tlhe liberal . :put into his M4estv's motifb,•iind which Was-
and enfightened. , policy by which the , COlidua of '• by no means boine out by the evidence, for
111-iSia, was guided.. on .that ocesision.HNO hope' : all that .Could ,be stated was, that LordYarinouth
nnw remained of aceonrilistaeogeaoy tiring byNc- beliered the uti piassidiiis to: be the basis pro-
t
gOtiation.---elodeed,
_ill thy. opinion, the fate of the 0;0. by the French GOvernnient; bat of this no
Negotiati(4l;is as decided the dity the Chief of the po41;:i-0 ;Airman= had been made.. Those parts of
Reach Goisratnent left Paris—eit.wasimpessible the the Address which approved the general result of flab
tWO works he is i-u engaged in tout go on together. 'Negotiation, and gave His Majesty assurance's of
It was impesiible that Peziee cte,ta be nit* withthe ' I suppor,t, received
.his hearty concurrence. • On .the
Al sen \viols he wa ekteuding his conquests pier l rupture of the Nregoti2ition, lie• Would. say .4 foist
GermanY, aild I-edits-Mg- the last Power with Whorn, Words. No man would be more anxious titan him,
h badn enut before hternengeeed-•T .e-h isteas not pur- self to, grasp at Peace, if Peace could be obtained
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Going. Peace lit the spirit' of Peace ; for Unless lie,'se- .1 with satetyeand without dishonour: -If he thought,.
riounied his preje4s,
.what hopes could remain of sncha Peace could he obtained, he would not balanee
its attainment -?..:.1t was in Oin to-sign any Treaty', for a distant and contingent evil -against the immediate
laewould.notremain'oniet, even•if it had been signed. ' . and positive goods He would not be excessively soli-
, Otietexpressiop second indeed, to hint that the,C;ser- chops what conquests should be• Preserved, and What
man Contederacy -\+-as net, yet signed, and that it ~ restored, though certaitily that questiehmust 'depend
would not lit signed Of •pUblislied, it we acceded to t on eircoinstanees and though there werepoints which •
the terins Tar °sett. ',
But before any (Urines pro- ; undoubtedly must be insisted on ; yet he Wasniet
grey- could balls' been made in the Negetiatitna, or 1 one of noose svho nhought it the interest of this
any answer obtained to ,111 last -offer, his promiFe . country intiefiohely to extend her colonies aod pose
would have, been already forsaken, acrd the ro ,Geran . sessions. To a country like .Great Britain 'some
Confederation: established., I; hope uow; my. 4oras, foreign and colonial poOessiotis 'acre certainly in-
havz,-,.established the principle which, in,common i dispeesible ; i-,..antliey ought not to be extended be-
with- the other Mioisters, I advised to be held mu, yo:na .cav government, . We must always love in.
at the opening of the Session,
.when it was note vie•.v our military establishinent. .By iattempting
wit-died..to pledge the. House to any opinion on the- to extend our possessions beyetid what we could de-
Negotioresn, but which the Papers 'since, laidbefdre. i fend with facility, tie migbt 'Sow the seeds of con
the House•wiil, I trust, induce theth now to adopt. . Siderable inure to the eeentry. •• Tileno-'&at son s ion
I still now concinde, nil
.I.sirds, by
the
an , was, Could Peace' be ohnlined ? In the aSpent and
Address, embodying that ce-enion, to the foliowill ' disposition of the Enemy, in the, circumstances of
effed ie---To assure His Majesty that eve. Bove 5e,..41, the times, was there any rational pis- apect'of it ?-e-
-with :gratitude the endeavours. employed by His _Adverting to theeients of 1801, he oi-aserved,- that
hfajcsty. for the restoration Of 'gen:ea-al tranquillity, thesituation.orthe-Continent at that period-present-
cm tenor: consistent with the interests and honour .ed a .VerY different Piahre twin the present. At
of hi Kople, and with that ipViolable goOd faith i that time Holland and Switzerland, though certain-
towards our Allies by which the ' Co.nduCt of this ly. in some ilege,e influenced by France, were hide-
comoey has always beenedistinguished ; that while pendetionatiOns; it any faith could be reposed in
welament .that,these
.endeavOu'rs .11*e been tinfore Treaties. • Naples ‘;‘%ts also an independent Power.
tunately frostrkited by the smb:sien and injustice of Austria, altho' it had lost' soMeWhat of its glory and
the Enemy we assure His :‘.;i.i.esty-, that the most its weight in Europe, was yet, in point of popnla-
ffe t.-ew
edual means In our per „ Willbe supplied to ens lion and territory, nearly as poWierful •as ever. At
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able His Majesty, Suntil . such terms of ' 'peace are that period .Peace was conclceled, with a view to the
-- obtained. as we haVe alreadysdeScriked, to maintain . Salvatien of Europe ; and 'yet, -Wrhile the Admini-
unimPaired the dignity of His Crown, and the in SstratiOn •of that day contemplated with just pride
depeoclencearad interests
.of thei People. I, the naval superiority of England, they could not
Lord HAWKE'S BURY, howe‘Fer he might differ avoid Contemplating the • military
.superiority of
in scathe points
.from the Noble. 'Baron, perfectly France, arising not from the greater physical streng-th
agreed with biM in the iMportance of upholding the- • .:off the people, but merely the etleds of theiVrench
.confidenee.Of the Country and giving to-His Majesty 1 'Revolntion ; which, having called forth the psssions
• the:Most-cordial and unequivocal assurances ofsupport of ' Men, they 'afterwards took a military 'direetion.
its thevar in is hieli use were engaged. • There was This was an artihcial, not a natural advantage. It
one phrase; however, in the provssed'Addres3, which i would be found, in the history ofall centuries. that
appeared to be liable to an zunblguous ihtertoctatio : . -they were never so to:-minable as at the close of some
In assenting- to foe Addresse*.he.Wis)aed to be•under- internal. convulsion.
.Under those eircunistances, it
:stood as completely Approving, the eotuliiEt of the • was thought, if peace could be ' obtained, that the
Bt'itiSh. Giavernineitt, in, theintrenitig, 'through' the Causes of the existing Superiority of France t.vould de-
' w bele course of the Negotiation, inviolable good faith - 'dine, and that the causes which enervated the
towards Our Aliies. He.thilyconcurred in opinionwith - -Powers on the Continent' Hostile to French policy,
the •Nable Bardb respeCting nits points on which the 'Wenld•bereMOved. Unfortunately, the present situae,
I\tegorlation W,aSbroken off. The refusal, •Oh the part titan of the Continent did not shesv the result that :vas
Of the Frencli,....t to .evacuate -Dalniatia, would have expecried. At the conelusion of the Peace to which le al-
been is Ith hith a StittiCll)t justification for that rup- Ilitcled, there were ts.- 0 distinei vit-ws of policy in Ftance.
' tore ; for he :i.:a:;'opi-fvinced, that if there eras anyone oie reirtythought that'asFritnee hadacquired sotnuch,
• point wl,i(7..h.dUght to he insisted on more strongly .in order to conseilidete her possessions tit:it:confidence
. . than any-Other, it Awns the .evaenation of DalMatia ' at horne and abroad .was wanted, which was only to
2nd Istria by the French -arms. As llir, therefore, -`be acTlired' by moderation. The other party,-on the
• asthe niaintenance of good 'faith, and the justice of contrary, were of opinion, that a power growing out
the grounds on which. the Negotiation had' keen of the turbtilerite of a Revolution, could find no se-
broken'Otf; .he thought Goyernment entitled' to the Cushy but in 'thecontitination of aggression.. • Un-
decided mail uriequiVocal supopet, of every Man; but happily, this latter system was pu.rsuedeatid from the
in stating this as his opinion, he begged that lie might IPeace of Athiensno the present moment,: not three
• lint be considered as approving every thing that had I montlis had elapsed without seine, violent. act •of en-
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'passed during the Negotiation. He was aware, at the croabitMent or annexation, against the most positive
same time, that in the copsideration of a prziaieal r and solemn stipulations. With reSpeatto continerce,
question, there ought not to be too iiaucTh refinement .if eertainly did•nut follbw that commercial, hostility
or too much enquiry. into :detail; but-the point on •between countries roust necessarily lead to war; but
which he us is going to .touch was,one of some mag- it was probable that in• the present dispOsition
.of
rntude, and iissilrectly required explanation. In his "Fsauce, situated as France and England were,
Majesty's Declaration, issued in C) sober last, it was and Coming into contait as • they would. in .every
distinctly stated, that
.the Negotiation originated in pin of the glebe, were Peace concluded, con-Inter-
im offer trom the. French Governthent to negotiate cial hostility of course springing 'up,' private come.
-on the basis of aolual possession. ' Now, on the plaint wolild cause putlic irritation, and ultimately,
closest examination of the Papers on the table of ' •be produaive Of war; He Could not review all.these,
the HouSe, he could perceive no evidence which and many other eonsiderations, in his mind,;without
bore out• the Declaration in. this assertion. In the •thitiling that, until the dispbsition of Prance should
early stage of the Negotiation,' before the arrival 'of . change-, and she shoUld'aet upon' a different sys-
Lord Yarmouth, there us as no yelerence ..vhatever ' tetn,• a Peace would be precarious, and would.
to such a basis.- The only reference td `any basis . risk, more to the Country than any- advantages.
was hi M. Talleyrand's Letter to Mr. Fox, in which, i• that could possibly be derived- from it. While we
a basis' was stated •which had • nothing to do with_ the i were at wain with France, we had this security,
basis of actual possession. Nor in the.written state, i that Whatever views she might have on the Con-
inent tiy Lord Yaintouth of the conversation be- tinetat, to the Continent, during the War, with Eng!
lween his Lordship and- M. Talleyrand, 'was. there -.land; she must be confined; but Peace opened to.her2
- Emy thing ' which warranted the assertion in the ambition •Asia, Africa, and America. While Gieat