The Sun.
London, England, 1822-07-02 00:00:00

THE LONDON JOURNALS.

ZXTRACTS FROM TIIE D %11. Y MORNING PAPtRS,
July 2, 1822.

[IIIOSNIN G POSIA

The Chancellor of the Exatetider brought
f‘rward his Budget Statement last night, and a
most gratifying one it proved: 'Whether we re-
gard the saving in expenditure which has been
effected—the reduction of taxes—the accom-
plishment of two great financial operations—the
extraordinary elevation and stability of public
credit—or the increase of general prosperity,
unequivocally indicated by a progresSive increase
of Revenue—there. is in each and all of these
circumstances ample reason to congratulate the
country, and to confide in the wisdom of those
COUilCi Is -which, having guided us successfully to a
glorious termination of the greatest contest of the
modern world, is now as successfully engaged in
preserving the honour and securing.the happiness
of this vast Empire during peace. Much had: pre-_
viously transpired with respect to the financial'
measures of- the. year, but the Right Hon.
Gentleman had some highly gratifying facts in
reserve.. It had been stated that the excess in
the Revenue.in the present quarter, amounted te'
about 200,0001. We had last night the high gra-
tification of learning, that up to Saturday the
excess over the corresponding quarter of last year
was no less than 622,000/. ! Another fact unex-
pectedly favourable to our financial prospects was
stated. For some years past we have heard of
the claims of the East India Company, which were
understood to amount to a very formidable "sum.
Their demand on the. GoVerfunent was for no
less' than 5,000,0001. The, claim wis not ad-
mitted—ComMissioners 'met on both sides, and
:we have. now the pleasure to learn that an ami-
cable arrangement is in progress,Under which the
Company are content to receive for five Milliens
the comparatively small sum of, 1,30d,000/. The
sum taken from the Sinking Fund (the nominal
Sinking,Fund)., instead of 13,000,0001. as last year,
is 7,500‘,0001. This stun only is taken, that the
.Loan Act 'expiring before the sth April, 1823,
may bring the whole -subject before Parliament
early in the next Session. The sum applicble
to the. 'purchase of Stock between July , sth,
1822, and July sth, 1823,, is stated to be
5,432,0001. In the next year a Surplus revenue
of 8,000,000/. may be expected. The Right
Hon. Gentleman spoke of the.iesolation rscently
come to by the I3ank as tending greatly 'to benefit
t!:e country, and dilated with rational exultation
in the course of his statement on the' solidity of
our credit and on the immense resources of the
'country.

[TIFF TlltiEs.j
The Chancellbr of the Exchequer brought
forward the Budget tast night, though some of
the estimates of whicli it usually forms the sum-
mary have not yet been voted. Ills statement
of die Ways find Means was rriore than ordi-
narily unititer'esting, from the Circumstance that
he had little to disclose, and no new proposition
to make. We have only room, to refer our
readers for details to the speech Well and some
of the tables with which it was accompanied. It
will' be seen that he proposes to bring the present
provisions of the Sinking Fund to the review of
Parliament in -the next SesSion. The debate that
followed on the Budget, as well as that of the
Alien 13111,. will beread" with interest.

[Ncw
Last night Mr. V ansitart opened the Budget.
The statement was most satisfactory.- In looking
to the Supply, we find that ofthe• Army .reduced
from 8,736,092/. --to` 7,70.5,000/. exclusive of
220,000/. extra expence hi :Ireland. That of
the Navy is also. reduced' from 8,282,685/, to
5,480,0001. And the 'whole Supply is only in-
creased' 801,00/. (viz. from .20,395,256/, to
21,196,4560,- although 2,801,0001. are taken to
pay the dissentient holders of the late. Five per
Cents.. To..rneet the Supply of 21,196,456/. the
Ways and Means amount to .21;299,670/. The
Unfunded. Debt is indeed increased 5,831,6701.'
but the Sinking; Fund Loau, ,vhidi‘ last year
was 13,000,0001. is this year only 7,500,0001.,
and it must be Observed that the Unfunded
Debt, witlrtbe proposed atutmentalion, amounts
only to
.86,299,00 PL ; whereas in 1815 it was
67,597,364/. SOine few other financial' facls
deserve notice. The revenue of the. current
quarteir is in a highly; fav'otirable statenottvith-
standing the heavy and loftg continued complaints'
of agricultural distresS: eonSidering the late re-
ductions, it might illtv'e been' expected to have
fallen short Of the torresponding• quarter in the
former year ; but on. the- contrary there is an
excess of nearly' 660,0001.. The net produce of
the Revenue of the, Cnited Kingdom, for the last
six years, lies before us, and, exclusively of the
Property and'War Malt Tax; it has.risen in that
period from 48;990,6,37/. to. 955,6931'.-,;-Some
apprehension existed yesterday in the City
that- the' Bridget' weld lie 'Still further post-
poned ; but in truth the delay hitheittrhas arisen
from no intrinsiC.difficnitY in the state of the
finances, It has been occasioned by the many
idle.and fruitless rootiOns'whiCh have
,obstructed
the more important'business of the Legislature..
This is a serious inconvenience ;• but it muit,
exist, so long as ignorant and factious individuals'
can command attention, to their mountebank .at,
tempts at gaining_ popularity. A few weeks
suffice to consign tlise Charlataus-to their native.
obscurity; but in themeanwhile much valuable
time.is lost, which- otlerWise would- have been
devoted to the -real ben-elk of'the cominunity,

[MORNING. CiIIIONICLE.] •
Last night came'on the Budget and the second
reatling of the Alien. Bill.—The Speech of the
Chancellor of. the EXchequer was closely ex-
amined by Messrs. Maher Ellice, Ricardo,
and Brougham. Mr. Maberly said the'firstthing
which struck him.in the eStilmate of the probable
amount of the inrcnfl, and expenditure for
1823, which the Right Honourable Gentle-
man had introduced' into his speech,• was,-
" that in the opinion of his Majesty's• Ministers
we had arrived at the extreme point to which
the reduction of our expenditure could. be. cat-

Tied ; for he bacttaken the Army, the Navy, the
Ordnance and the Miscellaneous Services, every
thing but the interestor the debt, at exactly the same
amount as they were in the present year."—Mr.
Maberly proceeded to point out various branches
of the PubliC Expenditure which might easily be
diminishedcommencing with the Collection of
the Revenue. Mr. Ellice observed, with respect
to the Chancellor" of the Exchequer's Sinking
Fund, that it did certainly appear there was
a surplus apparently on the amount of about five
millions—but how was it made up ? In the first
place by two "and a half millions taken from the
dead weight ;in the next 1,800,0001., either
borrowed in actual money of 'the East India
Company, or of Stock, on which they had
formerly paid the Dividends, and on which
the public', were in future. to pay them, a new
charge being created -on the Consolidated
Fund of 700,0001. pier annum for this object ;
and, lastly, •by an addition, adMitted in all
his shuffling by the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
Of one million to the ianfunded debt in EXChequer
Bills. In this Way the Whole surplus, or rather
.more, was accounted for, and.in the same way
they would find the account would stand in' the
ensuing year.:- Then Came the serious addition to
the unfunded debt, to pay off the diSsentient
holders of Five per Cent.' Stock. WaS
after all their previous eXperience; to continue,
merely for the gratification of the Right Hon.
Gentleman, this system of bolstering up the
Funds, by raising money to redeem Stock at 80
or 81, Which they might again have to fund at a
lower price ? • With respeCt to the diminishing
Our funded, while we increased' our unfunded
debti Mr. Ricardo observed,`". if he' were called
upon for an opinion, he Shonld recommehd a dia-
metrically opposite course of proceeding.

[BRITISH PRESS.]
In answer to a question frOm Mr. Grettfell,
in the course of the discussion on the Budget
last night, the Marquis of Londonderry 'stated
that a negociation was in 'progress with the
Court of Vienna, on the subject of the payment
of the debt of the Government of Austria to this
country, amounting, principal and interest,•to
about 17,000,0001.' sterling, which he hoped,
but could not pledge himself to the result, would
lead to a' favourable issue.—On the Resolu-
tion for raising 200,000/. by Lottery in the
Ways and Means for the current year, being
moved in the Committee on the Budget last
night, a division' took place, which resulted in
the adoptioh of the scheme by a majority of 40 ;
the numbers beingz—for the Resolution 74 ;
against it 34—Majority 40.--Last night another
discussion took place on the Alien Bill. It' was
strenuously opposed by Mr. Ifobhouse and Mi..
John Williams after which it went through a
Committee. ----saw—

• [MORNING HERALD.]
'Warrants in Ireland may have. been made out.
upon the charge Of some illegal combination or
conspiracy which. may, exist, to bring the cons
duct of the parties within that accusation—but,
considering the state of Ireland, and of Europe,
it is 'in the highest degree improbable indeed
revolting toevery.notion of probability, to sup-
pose that there exists in Ireland any political de-
sign' or conspiracy; dangerous to, or even directed
against, the. Government and the State. Ireland
has been for'centuries the theatre; from time to.
. time, of conspiracies and insurrections. But none
of the main and essential causes which have
operated in former cases .exist at this,moment:
There is no foreign Power disposed or interested
in exciting the -Irish to rebellion. The - torch
:with which' France at, and since. the French
revolution; kept' the flame of rebellion alive
among the people is now extingnished; and there
is no internal ferment of political sentiment.. In
I reland, the party which alone was danger.;
ous to Brii,ish connection, was • either dissi
'paled in the rebellion, or 'has gradually dis-
solved away since the Unhano: 'The middle
class above the people, .and below the aris-
tocracy, are divided into the-two hackneyed de-
nominations of Whigs and 'Forks. There are in
it-no longer any Separatists, and scarcely a Re-
former.- As to' the mass of the peoplewhich
in Ireland unhappily is composed of the poor-and
ignorant—wretched and degraded as their condi-
tion seems to be, a political rebellion is a reach
Of design beyond their capacity and comprehen-
:sion. It is possible that the persons arrested may
have met- for the purpose. of propagating- the
System of local outrage and -insubordination
Which prevailed in the South—and their humble
land obscure condition—for not one of them is
known or described, as of any respectable pro-
fession Or calling—is scarcely reconcilable with
any object of greater magnitude. There is an-
other-solution of this occurrence, which we will
barely allude to—viz.. that it' may be, 'a con-
spiracy got: up by.someOf the mischievous petty
factions in Ireland; and palmed, in the first
instance, upon the good faith of the Government.
P:Bat should that be the' case, the Government
itself would, it may be presumed, be the first to
expose' and punish the profligate party trick,
which in Ireland has been but too often played
off` with impunity.

In common justice to an established favoUrite,
Mr's. EDWIN (now on a visit to Dublin), it should
be made known, that though she has refused to
perform for her own emolument in several in-r
stances, she has offered her services-for' the aid .of
the Irish peasantry:
. ,
MEDICAL TRAVELLING.—The following anec,
dote is an additional proof; if any were wanting, how much the
originality of our countrymen has amused the Parisians :—An
Englishman, who had fallen into a verybad state of health, was
ordered by a celebritted French physician to travel five or six'
months, and to go, from 15 to 20 leagues every day, if his
strength.,perynitted it. At the end of six months, the patient
calls on his physician,' who - finds 'him in 'the Most 'flourish-
ing state of health; and asks him where he conaes:from..L-.
" From Versailles," says the Eoglishman.-:." FrOm Ver-
sailles replies the Doctor.
." Why, I told you to travel
at le* a 'thousand leagues." "I' have obeyed' you
Tunctually, and have travelled over, every one Of them," re
joined the Englishman; " but as I, like very much .the:.re-
stapiaieurs at Paris, the French Opera, and the Italian brip,
I made my arrangleinents accordingly. Every morning I set
out in a carriage.and went to VerSailles, where, as soon as I ar-
rived, I got into another. and returned to Paris,---off agaip,.and
back as, quick. Hera is a written account of my travels ; you
'will find that) I haVe been going about for six months, that I
'
have travelled above a thousand leagues have faithfully fol..
lowed your prescription, am in perfect health, and have never
Missed. one Opera or Lula !"

}'OR THE SUN.

F. D. ON HERESY.

MR. EDITOR—I should not have troubled you
upon this subject, had not your last Correspond-
ent upon it assulned my signature. In justice to
myself, I am bound to state the letter to which
he has attached the initials, " F. D." was not
written by me. Of this fact you will be aware,
if not from a recollection of my style of writing,
yet, from the hand-writing itself ; but your
readers will not be aware of this fact, and al-
ready I have been assailed on account of it,
therefore I. trust you will insert this disavowal
of it. That it came not
.from me you might be
satisfied. For, in the first instance, I should not
be, nor was I surprised to see in your Paper,
which bath always been staunch to the Esta-
blished Church, any letter on " the subject of
Heresy," especially against it. Secondly, with-
out any explanation of the anonymous author's,
I could have understood his, sense of the " gene-
ral term heresy ;" nor should I have thought I had
made any " discovery" in observing, that he was
intent upon exposing the false doctrines of Dis-
senters of a particular class, or in your recent
Correspondent's language 46 that he is aiming a
lash at the Calvinistic and Evangelical Clergy."
The affected modesty of this assumed F. D. is
very laughable ; because the beforementioned
anonymous author, that is, according to F. D.'s
' perversion of his letter, says, 64 Calvinists will
not receive our Articles in that sense in which
the Bishop ple,ses to impose them"—because
this truth is plainly told, the writer must be
," bigotted," forsooth ; and, therefore, also, this
F. D. has little hope that the arguments with-
in his humble reach will convince him ;" yet,
his " remarks may counteract the effects of
the letter in question ; or, if not, will cast a
suspicion upon it, so as to prevent any of your•
Readers from being thereby misled."—Prodigi-
ous! This humble F.D. seems then to think that
4' counteracting the effects of a letter'," and " pre-
venting its readers being misled," are not the same
effect. "Add to this, where can F. D;,with modesty,
imagine-that your Paper is circulated, if weaker
heads than his own or more imbecile writers than
himself are the sole unhappy perusers of it. To
his modesty and humility he subjoins simplicity
and ignorance. " I was not aware," says he,
" till now, that any Bishop had authority to im-
pose his- own interpretation of them" (the Arti-
cles). Perhaps we ought to have F. D.'s transla-
tion of them, or in a more extended sense, inter-
pretation of them ; all would then be right and
proper; but—(" buts" are unlucky additions
sometimes,) do not you think, Mr. Editor, that not
a Bishop" but " the Bishop" to whom F. D.
alludes, is equally capable, not to offend P. D.
by saying, " better -able," or more likely to
know and give the right interpretation of these
said Articles, after years of labour, than your
modern F. D.?

And now, I may ask, does not this spiritual
writer and zealous defender of Schism, betray
equal will and aptness to throw abuse upon those
who may differ from him, by talking of a dodrine,
in preference to another, as being 44 a fashionable
doctrine ?' I should like to learn also to whom
this F. D. alludes,--when he says " it is too much."
I have no doubt that it overpowered him " for an
Arminian now to tell a Calvinist," &c. ; does he
mean your lateanonymous Correspondent ?—if he
does, " woe betide him," for I ween no Arminian
is he

As to F.D.'s " original object of the Church," I
leave that for the anonymous author to comment
upon ; but instead of talking at random about
" receiving within its pale" such and such persons,
I should state simply its 44 original object" that
was the salvation of mankind in the world to
come. F. D. says ". your Correspondent, on the
other hand," (he seems to think it is not the right
one) would send all to conventicles, &c.who will
,not, &c. :" I do not recollect that your Corre-
spondent said any thing about " sending," but
4' letting them enjoy their false doctrines as much
as they pleased in their own conventicles;" and
not the slightest idea do I trace about" receiv-
ing articles according to the Bishop's interpreta-
tion." And suppose he did- send them all to
conventicles, how therefore are we to 44 see who
causes schism ?" we see who wishes to prevent it
by his letter, and who desires its introduction, in
D.'s, communication. The New Lights, (it
.seems F. D. feels who are here designated by
this appellation) F. D. says, " do not secede,
.but your Correspondent would drive them away ;"
verily ; certainly : I suppose with " the aiming
lash" F.D. uses ; such, he thinks, would be its
effect : if it should, I say, schismatics only
would be whipped off. " Tempora mutantur;"
"says F: D.; " the times are changed," indeed
.11ow different, how insipid, how powerless is
F. D., compared with our anonymous author.—
Correspondents are changed. Dulness for viva-
city, 0 " quantum mutatus ab illo :" from he who
first wrote " on heresy :" " this is very unlike
what formerly was and what ought to be," says
F. D.r; I agree it' iS so, indeed. 44 In ancient
days," F. D. tells us, 46 the Church would drive
none away who did not impugn a plain doctrine
or commit gross„ immorality." What a pity it is,
that some folks are blind or stupid; .and expose
their follies; for are not."plain doctrines" the sub-
ject of your anonymous Correspondent's dtfenee
and letter? and are not perversions of such doc-
trines 46 gross immoralities ?" And F. D. forgets
that ours is a 44 Reformed Church. F.D. asserts,
that " Calvinists and Arminians agree upon all
points essential to salvation ;" so the poor Antirio-
mians may be dealt any how with, and " packed
to the d I," for what he cares. 0, pure charity,
emblem of the plain spoken doctrines- of Cal
vinism !. And because the- former 44 agree,"
(which I doubt) he draws this consequence," they
are not, therefore, to be branded'as heretics."—
To conclude, if there is one passage more con-
clusive than another In F• "P.'s letter, as a proof
of tlie truth of my assertion, it is his volunteered.
sanction of a supposed plot to upset the Esta-'
blished Church, of a secret subscription, the
object of which is 4radually to usurp ecclesias-
tical benefices; and this" Peep o'day boy" kind
of work, this hearty Calvinist will not consider
as " badrunless be is convinced, which prObably
, never will-be the case; that the principles'of these'

:" wolves in sheep's cloatbing" are " bid" also:
How dull! not to perceive if the action is " bad,"
the principles which sanction and produce it
Must be " bad" too.

I suspect—a shrewd suspicion, to be sure, that
your " Correspondent," as F.D. calls him, knoWs
what Church the Apostles mean, as well; I durst
not say better, than F. D. And if you . will but
re-peruse the last sentence of F. D.'s letter, or
Calvinistic effusion, I think you will coincide in
what I have said, with this " addendum" that
F. D. bath " overrun the mark." For, in the
first instance, the Scripture says, (but I must first
state that I am a lay man,) " Is Christ divided i" In
the second place, I say, Tilt Cnuncu OF ENG-
LAND IS THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH, and let F. D.
disprove the assertion, if he can or durst, and
shew that it requires " bigotry and illiberality" to
hold and support such an opinion.
Your old Correspondent,
Westhaven. F. D.
P. S. If F. D. wants a motto for his next
Letter, will the following suit him ?
".Qui sequitur mei in tenebris non ambulat."

LAW INTELLIGENCE.

COURT OF KING'S BENCH, JULY I.
JAMES V. DODD.

The plaintiff sought to recover back 751. paid for a violon-
cello which did not turn out to be a Cremona as described.—
The witnesses for the plaintiff proved it was a German instru-
ment. Those for the defendant said it was an Italian instru-
ment, not made at Cremona., but at Florence. All allowed it
to be a good instrument, and the Jury found a verdict for the
defendant. .