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he had a great repugnance and prejndice en the first place to
conquer, and that it aseas with difEculty he could bring himself
to censure one who never Uttered- an "unkind word on the
Bench to any per Son. He (Mr. Broui;harn) experienced
this repugnance himaelf at all times and to a great degree,
and Sir Samuel ROmilly often --declared the embarrass-
ment occasioned him in the same way. He now spoke of
Lord Eldon as a Jtidge, and not- as a politician, for in the
latter capacity no Man was More severe upon -his enemies
than that Noble and .Learned' Individual. The Honour-
able and Learned Gentleman was 'convinced- the Commis-
sioners of Inquiry had not done their ditty; and the question
a'M whether they were to have the Chancery inquired into
aow or next Session. Unless the evideride was brought in to
be examined during the recess, nothing .Could be done next
Session. His Hon. and 'Learned Friend, who-was a staunch
Ppposition Member, had not, in his opinion, -followed up the
'„aquiry with the ardour due to the subjeet. His lion. anti
Learned Friend might have been governed by- candOur, which
a generous mind often felt with respect to' an adversary ; but
Why, he might aslc had they studiously eitluded. from the
Committee the Member for Lincoln and the Member for Dur-
,Yll, who possessed great anti useful talents.—(Hear, hear !)
!le would rep -at his•enlogy, notwithstanding the sneers of some
Members who could just count their ten fingers, and whose
silence was the wisest part of their conduct: The Commission
consisted of the friends of the Lord Chancellor, chosen by him-
self. He found among the Members of that COmmission, Lord
!tedestlale, who came in for the seals of Ireland at the time the
ford Chancellor held-the seals in England. The next was a per.
son whose rise had been most extraordinary : it was equalled
by nothing except a balloon. Living on Cancellariunt bounty,
he had been made Chief Justice of the Common Pleas ; then
''aster of the Bolls; and, to make assurance doubly sure; the
r.lext thing they did was to-make hint a Peer of the Realm and a
Robertlou rn ey an CI tancellor.—(A laugh.)—Then there was what Sir
Walpole called political gratitude for d legacy in ex--
gammas;Peeta it was not pecuniary, it was to be the Great --Seal.—
g
("1 h).---There were also many ready made Masters in
phanceey and some expecting to be made. All took their share
in the inquiry as friends of the Chancellor, and no doubt they
said we will bring lib- to happy resurrection. It had been said
that systems w
had heard thattr earner stones of the Constitution but they
not to blame. ,n„Tbta new doctrine. It was-said men were
the system ne system was to' blame. No man blamed
more than the Member' for Oxford. The fact was,
to screen the l.ord Chancellor the system was to be blackened
night after night. It would comfort him to hear whether it
really . was the systeM or • the man that was to blame.—
It did not appear that LOrd Eldon, with the assistance of
a Journeyman Chancellor, had done more business than other
Chancellors. Did the Noble Lord sit six hours in Chancery
with his mind on the ;full stretch ? These questions had not
been the subject of inquiry. By agreeing to the motion of
the Hon. Bart., the illerober for Westmeath, they .might confer
't great benefit on the 'cfnintry,
,Dr. LUSHINGTON, in explanation, could not adthit that
tae Lord Chancellor .had exercised any influence whatever
Oaring the
.inquiry• Ike put it to his brother Commissioners
Whether the Lord Chancellor hail been present at the examina-
ti`al of more than' three or four witnesses out of the whole
~
411ther examined. They had followed up the inquiry accord.
rug to the plan a: ranged by the Committee. The proper time
"it inquiry into eonduct of the Lord Chancellor would be
I`,l'oett the turisdic.iiiit of the Court was examined.. In case they
gone further in the examination than the rules of evidence
4"owed, they could not have discharged fieir duty fairly. .
Mr. TINDALL said, he.would occupy their attention for a
Very few moments. - lie was anxious to vindicate the Commis-
'ion, of which he formed a member, from the charge of mine-
F"ury delay. They had strictly adhered to the course laid down
lb their original instructions, which was to investigate the causes
of delay and expence of a Chancery suit. In pursuance of this
regulation, they had applied themselves to investigating the
causes, and supplying a remedy for the delay and expence at-
tending upon a suit in Chancery, anti as far as he was himself
Individually concerned, although he could not presume to
answer the his brother Cominissioners, he was prepared to say
t"nt the Report would be ready to be presented to his Majesty
before the commencement of the next Session.

Mr. Secretary CANNING.—It is not, Sir, my intention to
detain the House many minutes. lam desirous, however, to
state in a few words, the grounds upon which 1 mean to give
"tY vote upon the present occasion. The Hon. and Learned
Gentleman, during the whole course of his very entertaining
'Teeth, seems to have founded his argument upon a fallacy,
and that fallacy being removed, the argument of course falls
•to the ground.- He has assumed that the Commission op-
Pointed to inquire into the state of the Court of Chancery, is
tellurt of Criminal Inquiry-into the conduct of the Lord Chan-
,„e-(Flear !)—but I believe, Sir, that this Commission
la--4).tao considered by. the House, the country, or by thes
saaiinci:
thatsrera themselves. The Honourable Gentleman h
the ormerly it was the fashion to arraign the man, and.
‘not
the airnetn, but that the order is now reversed. I can ass;
me ssonourahle Member, and I am sure the House feeb,.!,ite
~.tse that a
taere has been no disposition upon the .
paFt of
conduct
e",„tastituted this inquiry, to shield the man if Ins.
.it
1.17-6'0,12e proved to be culpable, or to uphold the. !sys.em:if
the eut_ho discovered to be unsound. As it is, however,.o.
such fi:t." the Commissioners to put us in possession of
to , altalation as b ' prima facie evidence, may prove,
not herhather the' i'y,' teym or the wean be in fault, I tan-
4/enebelr' thtai"king it listifa. ' in the Honourable and Learned
I fi— ''Y 'exit:a:Preion the odium on the individual.
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.1, .... ,i.
i.aiZc';lnWiliZe, thinactitihnee'd! to
entertain this opinion, because
Gentlemen composing this Commission
;duty, nu dispositien to shrink from the strict performance of their
r7n, and that if the fault be attributable to the administration
ii, This td the system, the will have no hesitation in declaring
„., e his opinion I an; lila-line& to entertain from a consideration
'tottin characters ofahose Gentlemeu who compose the Commis-
-110 ' and, in particular, from having listened to the speech of an
, !Land to
Gentleman —a speech characterised, not more.
by its ability, than by the candour and frankness with which it
'Os delivered. I' say.then Sir, that if the Hon. and Learned
altioenniiber
.(Mr. Brougham; hd b •bl to prove that this
a cell
k'
mission was to be considered as a Court of Criminal In-
;tiatury into the conduct of Lord Eldon, his argunients might
olir!.ve been available; but if it is held, as I hold it to be a
.and impartial and bona fide investigation into the conduct
*ette Court of. Chancery,: with a view of ascertaining,
te'etlter the system or
.the man be in fault, and if, among
i)",c alerobers of that; CommiAsion, there be two or three,
a, even one, who are .not likely, through favour, interest,
thattrivate friendship, to screen Lord Eldon, then I re-assert,
t° theLhe Honourable and Learned Member's argument falls
lia ,e_gaound. What thens I ask, is the object of the motion ?
the "o'al delay ? Out Will that object be gained by acceding to
aeatiPatiition of the Eon. and Lessrmal Member ? Shall we
seta,. elaY by aholiShing the present mode of inquiry, and in-
pl.
_trig another ? Shall we avoid delay by stigmatizing the
aaetitejlt Cominissionera, against whose individual characters
possible
slig.htest shadow of a suspicion can attack ? It is im-
whie, e, Sir, that any advantage can result from a measure,
all an nullifies and stultifies all our proceedings, which undoes
ae ;t.ns!ttilas been done, and makes us stop at the conclusion
t.l
the resestaelon without_ even giving time for the publication o
that i, 9u of the Commissioners' inquiries. I say, therefore,
whol tis the duty of this House-to wait for the report of those
aaa n they have appointed to investigate this matter. An lion.
sloabit'elerned Member •has assured you I have no reason to
read tne accuracy of inforrnation, t'hat this report will be
'-n YeearlY in the ensiling Session. It' it be not ready at. that
4a el I have no hesitation in saying, and lam sure every honest
t4,..411 pill join with me, that it will be necessary to institute
:rhea
„`nnuiry_(llearl)--For my own part, I must say that
zZo akte:aly ignorant and Uninformed with respect.otous Ito
be Jett tisi, • of the inquiry. I am, therefore,
.anxi
Pat • • --'e• -ssion of the result of the investigation by
the 0,. 14 aswa,
If
tlinst-edesucla-' --ae... • without pledging myself, on that ac-
oat., • concur '
!kit,
drake •-, the conclusions which may have
e‘e L.
as / tvn by the Cona.ai,ssioners. Ignorant and unlearned
that ignorance and that want of
inaormatn! however, I spar, ese into whose hands the Hon.
'x04144,1" in eorarnom with 121. t • fi e.s to throw the burden of
tbi% i: --..... Learned Ittwnoe:r t 7.1 "aom those to whom we
have restigation, while be takes_ i. ,
ealli:y our vote consined tble of misleading
it, againea ss, hose character there
Its, anr jeluoach, whom I consider inc..
to the wu°lll, upon these accounts, I wit; en;claitea, bbeyr,acecOendsienngt
to stigral?OttitiOn of the Hon. and Learned As.
The House it'd de ado.-.(Cheers.)
°lite then divided, .when.tbe numbers were--
For Against
the motion -- • - -
eagainst it .. -,7 - ' - . 7U
154
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'rho Majority - - .. - -
to!ion was accordingly lost. .
Th'-",k, OF CUMBERLAND'S
e Annul Report of the Committee on the Duke of Cumberland's
ly Hill was ordered to be received.on Thursday next.
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Air Tx INDIAN WIDOWS.
Widows
'rn ~%lr. -AIME moved for.a. Return of the Number of
and
rnolated in the three presidencies of Madras, Bengal,
‘-aleutta, from the year lEIIS
liThe other Orders of the Day were then disper
osed of, and the
()use adjourned at ONE O'CLOCK.