The Sun.
London, England, 1825-03-12 00:00:00

DUTIES ON 111IPOR„TED TIN, COPPER, &c.

Mr. LAWRY presented a petition from the Chamber of
Commerce, at Birmingham, praying a reduction of the Duties
on the Importation of Tin, Copper, and other Minerals.
Mr. LN"I`TLETON supported the prayer of the petition,
which was likewise supported by Mr. W. Vi it IT )tonr.
Mr. HUSKISSON said, that, at an early day, he should
submit to the House his views relating to the duties on some of
the important raw materials referred to in the petition. The
duties in question were highly inexpedient, and ought to be re-
pealed or modified. He was aware that they greatly impeded
the progress of our manufactures: Within a few days he should
submit certain propositions respecting the Duty on Copper and
other minerals, and lie hoped that the persons connected with
their production would give him their support. The hardware
manufactures were greatly interested in their reduction. As far
as he had communicated with the persons interested in mines,.
he was led to anticipate that there would not be any ohjection
to his intended measures.
Mr. TREMAYNE recommended caution to the Right lion.
Gentleman, and hoped he would not go too f rin his pursuit of
the principles of a free trade.
Sir R..V IVI AN hoped that no change would be made with-,

out due consideration.
Mr. P. ORSNFELI. also recommended that. the govern-
ment should proceed gradually in their intended measures..
Alt MA PER I,Y made a few remarks in favour of the peti-
tion,- which was oraered to be printed.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
On the motion of Mr. HEIII%IES, the Hone resolved itself
into al'otuunittee of Supply.
Mr. 'MOUES moved that the sum of 620,0001. he granted
for defraying the Extraordinaries for the Army at the Cape of.
Ciood llope, the Mauritius,"Canadas; &c.
Mr. 111.131 E-wished to know hovithisUM.of money granted

PRICE SEVENPENcr,•

to relieve the inhabitants of the Cape of Good Hope bad been
expended,,and by whom ?
Mr. W. HORIION said that the money was disposed of by
the Commissioners who were then at the Cape, and that Go-
vernment was perfectly satisfied with their conduct in the
trihution. _

Mr. HUME wished to know when the conduct of Lord Chas.
Somerset could be brought before the House' in the Report 9f
the Commissioners.
Mr. Mr. HORTON said that the Commissioners were ac.
tively engaged in their duty, and their report would be hid be-
fore the House as soon as possible. The Hon. Secretary denied
that there was any disposition (as the Hon. Member.
Hume, had on a previous occasion 'asserted), at the Colonial
Office to refuse attention to any persons who brought complaints
before it.

Mr. HU.ME said, he would repeat this charge, which was,
that the Colonial Office deserved to be accused of neglect, be-
cause they kept the Noble Lord (Lord C. Somerset) in his sku-
ation, after it had been the general belief and feeling that the
Noble Lord was unfitted for his situation; his Government was
amoutrage upon the public feeling.
Mr. W. HORTON said, that it was idle' to detain the
Committee on such general charges. if theHonourahle Mem-
ber would Alt them into a specific shape, they, might be te,
plied to.
Mr. HUME then objected to the expence of the establish-
ment at Newfoundland, which might be defrayed in the
Colony.
Mr. W. HORTON said, it was the intention of Government
to.make some alteration in that respect.
After some further observations from Air. HtruE with refer-
ence to other items, the Resolution was put and carried.
The next Resolution was for a sum of 369,0141. for the ex-
pences of the Commissariat.—Agreed to after a few words from
Mr. HuStE.

A Grant of 27,6301. was then proposed for the salaries of the
Officers of the Houses of Lords and Commons.

:Mr. HUME wished to know why this vote was larger than
it was,last year ?
Mr. HERRIES said, that the increase was principally caused
by the alteration made in the House of Lords.
The vote was agreed to.
The following sums were then voted :
For the Expences of the House of Lords and Corn.

£16,572

mons -
To make good the deficiencies in the Fee Fund to
the several Officers of State -
For the Contingencies of the same Offices
For the Commissioners of Revenue in Ireland and
parts of Great Britain 5,200
In answer to a question from Mr. HUMS, Mr. WALLACE
said that the Commissioners were about to direct their labours
to an investigation of the Stamp Department.
For the Offices and Expellees of the Exchequer - £5,351
Mr. HUME complained of the manner in which the accounts
were kept in the Exchequer.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was
more easy to see the defects complained of titan to remedy
them. Ile had the matter in consideration, and shOuld as soon'
as possible endeavour to satisfy himself as to the best mode of
dealing with it
FOr the salaries of the Commissioners and Clerks of
the Insolvent Debtors' Court •
For the officers and contingencies of the Alliem Office
For the expenses of the Penitentiary at Milbank -
• In answer to a question from Mr. BERNAL,
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that the experiment of removing
the convicts who were formerly diseased, had proved that the
site of the building was not the cause of the unhealthiness
which. prevailed. A part of the building had been again in.
habited by fresh convicts, and some improvement having been
made in the diet, they had enjoyed perfect health.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH asked how many convicts were now
in the Penitentiary, •and how long they had been there. ~
Mr. SeCretary PEEL said, that two pentagons were occu-
pied, and the convicts had been in them four months,
For Superannuation Allowances -
For Allowances to Persona having claims on his Ma-
jesty for services performed in the country - 68,120
Mr.-HUME wished to know 'why we were to pay for ser-
vices rendered to Foreign Governments.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the
Persons alluded to by the Hon. Member had rendered services'
to this country when we had possession of Toulon and Corsica.
Their claims were therefore upon this Government, and not
upon the Government of France.
Mr. lIUME said that the war was carried on to restore the
Bourbons to the throne, and when they came to it, if they had
a spark of gratitude they would pay these claimants.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER denied that,
the war was carried on for the sake of the Bourbons : it was'
jor the sake of our own preservation.
For the National Vaccine Establishment - - £6,000
Mr. HUME complained of the sums paid for the attend-
ance of Physicians and Surgeons at this Board.'
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that it was desirable the public
should know that the Institution was under the observance of
the first professional men, and that the use of pure lymph rtAay
be depended upon. He had a great objection to seeing -the
labours of professional men required for the public benefit
without compensation.—(Hear !)—lle had made inquiry as to
the expenditure of the establishment, and in an,interview with
Sir H. Halford, he had learnt: that the eminent professional
men Would gladly give up their attendance at the Board, for
which the sum they received was no compensation.
For the Refuge for the Destitute
For American Loyalists -
For Protestant Dissenting Ministers
For the Printing Expences of the Houses of Lords

and Commonti - - - - -
For Printing the Records - - -
For the Stationary and Printing Expences of the Pub-

93,873
68,634

1:13,740
4,372
20,090

£12,124

1:5,000
6,000
6,000

99,000
10:41

- ... .
- lie Departments - - - -
For the Extraordinary Expences of the Mint and the
Gold Coinage - - - - ..
Te make good the Loss in Ite-coining Irish Silver
Tokens - - - - _
For Prosecuting in Cases of False Coinage - -
For Fitting and Furniture in the Houses of Lords and

96,240

34,000

52,000
6,000

4,800

Commons -
For defraying the Expences of Law Charges.for 'the
Year
For the Maintenance of Convicts in our Settlements
abroad -
For Expences incurred under the Act for the Aboli-
tion of the Slave Trade - 45,000
After some inaudible observations from Mr. 11 u :M r. W.
SMITH, and others,
r. BERNAL contended that this annual vote was an in-
stance of the liberality of the House, but that the consequence
of the system they had adopted with regard to the Slave Trade,
was to increase it tenfold under -foreign flags lie did, not
speak with the. narrow views of a Colonist, when he stated thiat
this system operated to the destruction of our own colonial.pro-
' duce. 'The Colonists of other nations were able to undersell it
in the market, because they had the advantage of slave labolr,
from the constant supplies brought from the coasts of :A frica.—
He did not believe'the American Government sincere in. their
wishes upon this subject, and the question of search was only a
pretext. The cultivation of the Southern American States
could not be carried on without the use of slave. labour..,
Dlr. F. BUXTON agreed with his Hon, Friend that .nothing
could parallel the perfidiousness with which foreign nations had
acted upon this question. The Government of France, he was
convinced, could pot continue to act so atrocious a part, and .he
should therefore support the continuance of these votes. .
For defraying the expences of the Commissioners of
the Slave Trade - - - £17,475
Mr. HUME and Mr. W. SMITH objected to the maintenance
of the Commission, and particularly at the Havannah.
Mr. W. HoßTow and Dr. 141.18111NHT031 contended for its
necessity, and said that the Hon. Members forgot that we were
bound by treaty. The Learned Civilian commended the con-
duct of the Commission at Sierra'Leone.
For defraying the Expences of Special Commissions
to Spanish America • - £30,000
For the Salaries of Consuls in South America - 35,000
For the Colony of Ney) South Wales - 120,000
For the Civil Establishment at the Bahama Islands 2,477
For the same at Dominica - 600
For the same in Upper Canada - -8,89
Mr. HUME said, 'as there was an increase in this item
above last year, he should take the sense of the House upon it.
Mr. W. HORTON .obseried, that the greater part of the
increase was in thenature of an .advance; which would be'repaid.
Mr. HUME, with such an explanation; should not pass the
subject:
-The following Resolutions were then agreed to :
For the tivil Establishments in Novi Scotia

MON

78,147

.i 9,645