The Sun.
London, England, 1849-03-31 00:00:00

The witness explained that what she meant was, that the
prisoner was not more than a quarter of an hour u', stairs in
his bedroom before going out. This subjected he,: to a long
cross-examination, but the prisoner completely failed to shake
her evidence.
Prisoner—Don't you recollect looking at your watch when
you came into my room on the night of the 28th? Wit-
ness—No; I never looked at my watch. I had not time
to do so.
Prisoner—On so solemn an occasion will you now swear
that it was more than 9 o'clock? Witness—l will not swear.
I will only swear that, from my own calculation, it was 9
o'clock or half-past 9.
Prisoner—What did you do with your watch that night?
Witness—l had it in my room, but did not look at it. The
fire in your room was a large one, and lighted with fresh
wood.
At the request of the prisoner her depositions were read at
length.
It appeared there was some slight discrepancy between the
two accounts as to the condition of the fire. The witness,
on renewed cross-examination, repeated her statement that
the fire appeared to hive been lighted some
,time. The pri-
soner then requested that the witness's depositions of the 14th
of September and the sth of January should be read, which
was done accordingly.
The prisoner addressed the witness again, but in a very in-
distinct tone to those who were, like us, obliged to sit at his
back. He warned her apinst making misstatements, and
reminded her she was on her oath.
Witness—There is no deviation in my statement.
used different words with the same meaning.
Prisoner—Now, I am going to ask you some questions, and
before you answer me I ask you to consider, as I wish to save
your peace of mind hereafter. Did I not request you not to
take a light into your
,room that night 2—The light was put
out before I left your room.
Did I unfasten your dress after? Now, for God's sake, re-
collect—for God Almighty's sake, recollect. It is r case of
life and death.—You did partly.
What took place after I unfastened your dress? Don't,
for false delicacy, say what is not a fact.—l lingered about
your room, and you pushed me away. As I was going into
my room you said, " Stop, your dress is not unfastened," and
you began to unfasten it.
Did I do so?—You did.
What did I do then ?—You had your hands open to put
me out of the room.
What followed then ?—.1!,1y conscience is pure before God.
I can ask you, and hope you will answer.—l went into my
own room.
Before you did so, what things did you take off?—(The
witness hesitated and seemed much distressed.)
Well, if you are ill I won't ask you.
'Witness—l am not ill.
Well, try and recollect what you have to say.
things did you take off after you took off your dress?
The Juntas—l suppose she took off those articles which
were under her clothes ?—Cannot you suggest anything more
distinctly?
Well, I will ask you plainly if you did not take off
your watch 2—No, it was in my pocket, by the side of my
dress.
Did I not tell you to hand me the watch ?—I don't re-
collect.
Will you swear I did not ask you ?—I will swear I don't
recollect the words.
Was your watch wound next morning ?—I cannot remem-
ber. I have too much upon my mind to do so.
Yes; I fear you have too much upon your mind. Where
was the watch when the police came ?—I think, on the
table.

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Was the light out before you left my room ?—I think not;
I put it out as I was going into my own room.
Many more questions of a similar character were put by
the prisoner, with comments of his own, and appeals to the
witness to recollect, &c., but at length,
The JUDGE said, I have allowed a great latitude to you,
which I was, I fear, scarcely justified in doing; but now we
must keep regular. You must put nothing but questions to
the witness.
Prisoner—Did you ask me a second time what was the
matter with me I—l might. I was continually asking you
that night. I cannot recollect it.
Did I tell you I would go to your room that night ? —No.
Did I say anything to make you believe that some one
might come, or that I was fearful some one was coming ?-4
don't recollect it all.
Do you remember of my complaining of being cold while I
was standing at your bedside ?—I don't recollect.
No, you won't recollect.
Again the prisoner repeated his admonitions to the wit-
ness, as well as his questions in various forms, and proceeded
—Whatever you have said from false motives of delicacy I
forgive; but I now ask you, did I that night come into your
room more than once 2—You did.
Now, this is a most awful question I have to ask you.
The JUDGE—Wait till I take down that answer. You
went twice into her room that night.
Prisoner—Noe; recollect what you are about to say. I
always treated you well and loved you tenderly.
The witness here seemed completely overwhelmed, and
cried greatly.
The JUDGE—Put any question that is relevant, and the
witness shall answer.
Prisoner—What time was it when I came into your room
that night 2-1 don't know whether it was before or after
three o'clock; it was towards morning, but still dark.
Had you been asleep before I came in the first time 2—Yes.
How could you tell how long you had been asleep ?—I had
been lying awake thinking part of the time; I then fell
asleep, and was awakened by your knocking at the door.
Did I get into your bed that night? Recollect, God's eye
is upon you.—Yes, I think you did; you leaned by the side
of the bed.
Did I get into bed ?—You did.
The JUDGE—On both eccasions ? On one enly.
Was not the time I got into bed the time I said you had
the ague, and got the great coat and laid it over you?
The witness paused.
Are you considering what is the truth of the matter, or
what is the evidence you have given before 2—l am answer-
ing to the best of my recollection.
Did I not tell you I was as cold as you were ?—I don't
recollect.
Did I not say I was fearful something serious would
happen at Stanfield-hall that night ?—(Sensation.)—Cer.
tainty not.
Did I not give you reason to think I was about to tell
something I knew had taken place ? Did I not—
The JUDGE—Let the witness answer that question first.
Witness—You did not.
Did I say " God would bless us" in the course of my con-
versation ?—No.
You don't recollect it ?—You did not say it.
Did I not, after I had left your room, tap at the door
again ?—No ; I recollect your coming twice.
Do you recollect my knocking at the door 2—And coming
to the side of my bed;
No, not that time—the time I went to your room, and you
objected to my coming in 2—No.
Was there anything said about draughtboards that nighht?
—I cannot recollect at all.
Was there any conversation about playing draughtsl
—None at all, my Lord.
Do you know where the board was at that time 2—No.
When did you play draughts last ? I can scarcely recol-
lect; we played very often when at home.
Do you recollect anything being said about our saving our
prayers. I mean at the time we spoke about God blessing
us 2—l cannot recollect.
No You cannot recollect. Did I not tell you no one
knew of the secret drawer but my poor mother 2—Yes.
Was I not in the closet when 1 mentioned the circum-
stance?—You were not; but you went to the closet after-
wards, and said you would show me the secret place.
Did I say it was a place of safety 2—Yes, in case of fire.
Did I ever deny your going into my closet ?—I never was;
I never had occasion to go ; but you kept the key.
Did I next morning at breakfast look as if I had been
guilty of murder ?—You were pale.
Mr. Baron ROLFE—You cannot ask the question. The
witness cannot answer it unless she has been a person guilty
of murder. You can say how he looked.
Witness—He looked pale, but he made a good deal of fun
about breakfast.
Prisoner—l had the handcuffs on, then 7-is-Yes ; you made
fun about not being able to cut the meat. I cut it for you..
Did I make a good breakfast ?—You did.
Had you heard anything about the murders before you
gave evidence?— Yes; in the papers. .
What did Mr. Wilson say to you before you signed the
depositions about any one seeing me on that night ?—I don't
recollect.
By the prisoner's request, the depositions of the witness
before Mr. Wilson were read, in which she stated he was not
more than ten minutes away.
Who was the first person to whom you said the deposi-
tions were not true 2—Next day, to Mr. Hubbertv.
Why were you sent for to be examined on Friday?-j
don't know.
Had you received orders from Mr. Cann not to be ex-
amined uuless I was present P—l cannot recollect.
Did either of the Mr. Canns represent themselves as com-
ing from me P—No.
Were police in the room with you when you dined with
Mr. Wall ?—I think not.
Did you hear me tell you what had taken place the morn-
ing of the murder, when the police went up to my room 2--
I heard you say, "Stanfield-hall is ours."
When I came up with the police, did you hear me or any
one say what had happened ?—Nu ; I heard something about
Stanfield-ball. I asked the policeman; he said, " Don't you
know?" I said " No ;" and he told me. You (prisoner) said,
" The two Mr. Jermys are shot dead ; and two women not
expected to live."
Who told
,you you were not examined on oath 2—After
examination on the 13th and 14th of September, Mr. Bryer
told me so.
Was what was said the day after the murder taken down?
—lt was.
Was the oath administered P—No.
Prisoner—l know by the appearance of the witness that
she is very ill after the long examination which she has been
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Prisoner—My Lord, you ought not to say so.
The JunciE—Perhaps I ought not; it is possible that the
questions you have been putting may turn out to be relevant,
but I am determined to hear everything out with patience.
Can you (addressing the witness) continue your examina-
tion ? Witness—Yes, my Lord.
Prisoner—She is like to drop off her seat with fatigue.;
The JUDGE—Proc,ed with your examination.
The prisoner proceeded, but all his questions were of the
same irrelevant character, relating principally to dates, and
never once affecting the real merits of the case. He renewed
his application for her removal once or twice ; but
The JUDGE said that as soon as the witness herself inti.
mated that she was fatigued he would discontinue her ex.
amination.

Prisoner—Did yon ever at any time give to any person
a hint as to the dress I went out in during the nights at
Potash? Witness—Yes; I told Mr. Cann that I caught a
glimpse of you going into your bedroom soon after your ar-
rival, and that I recognised the hat, but could not be sure
whether you wore a cloak or not. There seemed to be some-
thing hanging on your arm. I told Mr. Cann this about six
weeks ago, just before I was ill.
Prisoner—Have you ever given a description of any
dresses belonging to me at Potash without having seen them
on me ? Witness—Yes; I have described wigs which were
in your possession.
Prisoner—Were you told at the hall that the man who
had been seen there on the night of the murder wore a
mask ? Witness—No. I have no recollection of being told so.
Prisoner—. What did you hear at Stantield-hall about the
dress the man wore? Witness—l heard nothing, except that
the man had followed young Miss lermy.
The prisoner again insisted that the witness was too fa-
tigued to answer his questions properly, but without effect.
The witness Emily Sandford continued under examination
when the express left, at eight o'clock, she having been in
the box since ten o'clock in the morning.
We learn by telegraphic dispatch that the Court rose at ten
minutes past eight, and that the cross-examination of Emily
Sandford_ was to be resumed to-morrow (this) morning.
There are in all fifty-three witnesses for the prosecution, ten
of whom only have been examined up to this time.

The Right Hon. the Speaker of the House of Com-
mons gives hiA last Parliamentary tlinneti his eveaing