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Mr: MlLLlERiiiplied. He was extremely satisfied with
the manner in which his resolution had been received. It
appeared to him almost immaterial whether he divided
or not, as the opinion of the house had been most unmis-
takeably expressed in the course of the debate. He
felt the force of the appeal made to him by the Home Se-
cretary and the Attorney-General, who htid rritirnittedtheir
concurrence in his views and their readiness to legislate ;
and, if permitted to do so, he should withdraw his motion.
...Mr—JOHN MACGREGOR thought a discussion would
have much greater weight with the country than a divi-
sion. (No, no).
The question Was then put, and the resolution was agreed
to, with the addition of the words proposed by Mr. Lucas.
RUSSO-DUTCH LOAN.
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Lord D. STUART, adverting to a notice of motion which
he had on the paper on this subject, said at that late hour (a
quarter to 12) he should despair of securing the attention of
the house. He had waited the whole eveningin the vain
hope of bringing it on, and he now reluctantly consented to
postpone. His hon. friend the Secretary to the Treasury
having intimated to him that he had a reasonable chance
of introducing it on Tuesday, the 11th July, he had agreed
to postpone it till that day ' • but he did so on the under-
standing that if he should be unable to obtain any other
opportunity, he would introduce it on the motion for going
into comma tee of supply.
Mr. BOWY ER, in withdrawing a motion, complained that
independent members had at present no opportunity of in-
troducing the motions which they had placed on the table.
THE CLAIMS OF CAPTAIN DICKEYSON.
Admiral WALCOTT moved for a select committee to in-
quire into the claims of Capt. Dickenson, R.N., on behalf
of himself, the officers, and crews of her Majesty's vessels
employed on the subject of sa'vage, &c., connected with
the recovery of treasure in the wreck of her Majesty's ship
Thetis, off Cape Frio, on the coast of Brazil. The gallant
admiral said it still a peered to him most unfair that the
Admiralty should have deducted 13,970(. from the hard
earnings of a meritorious. officer, and the seamen under
him. He was astonished to hear the right hon. baronet
the -First Lord of the Admiralty observe the other evening
that it was inexpedient to re-open a question upon which
successive Boards of Admiralty hadgiven adverse decisions.
If wrong had been done, the lapse of 20 years was no rea-
son why it should not be redressed.
Mr. BROTHERTON moved the adjournment of the
house.
The house divided—
For the adjournment......
Against
The house then adjourned

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The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said ho hoped the bon.
and learned member for Plymouth would not press his re-
solution to .a division. He felt that, he should make this
appeal with the greater force when be said that he was
himself a decided friend to limited liability. At the same
time the question was now brought forward -for the- firs.
time in the house, at least in this Parliament and there.:
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a report founded on lengthened evidence whieh'filie bed
not had airopportunity of reading. He would- also pjat.
to him" that there was no merit in carrying, an nbstr •
solution: If a measure of this kind was brought in, everbody felt, after the discussion which bad• taken place; it
would be necessary to surround such a provisien with a.
variety of safeguards to prevent frauds: •He would there.
fore put it to his hon. friend that hie object had been fully
attained by the discussion which had-taken place,, and that
it would be really useless to carry the resolution. It was a
matter that deserve i and would receixe tha anxious con-
sideration of the Government.
Mr- NAPIER said if the motion were• premed to a divi-
sion he should ba in a groat difficulty." He' joined in 're--
commending the hon. and learned genthinsan to withdraw
his motion.
Lord PALMERSTON said he merely rose to add his re-
quest that his hon. friend would not press this motion to is*
.division. He thought he ought to be satisfied with the ex-
pression of opinion which had been given. It was one, no
doubt, on which great difference of opinion prevailed, and
:it was fair to say that the large capitalists were of one
!opinion, and that the bulk of the small capitalists were of
another. A commission was appointed at the reeominenda,-
'Hon, he thought, of a committee of that house, 'to inquire
linto the matter. The commission had only recently re-
ported, and he was sure the house would feel that her Ma-
jeaty's Goverument would not have acted iu a becoming
manner if they had at once reached a conclusion without
!giving to the report of the commission that due considera-
tion to which it was entitled. It, therefore, could not be
(expected that the Government should be prepared at the
I present moment to declare the result which they had come
I to, or were likely to come to; and he thought it hardly
fair to ask them to agree to an abstract resolution-without
'igiving them time t© consider not only the -evidence, but
the report of the commission.' He was sure tho- boue
.would give Government credit for a great anxiety to cot;
!rect these defects which everybody admitted existed in the
law as it stood in this anatter, and he trusted that credit
would be allowed them for a sincere desire to propose any-
'ehenge of the law for the development of national Indus-
try, and give to the under classes of societyl better 'means
of applying their savings, and a greater inducement to
Make savings in the course of their limited transactions.
There was also another consideration for not pressing the
'motion to a division, which was that in the
early part'of
the day it was understood that the boo, member would
merely elicit opi uions, and'that there should be no division. • Mr. RICARDO could not agree with what had fallen
from the noblelorsle__ Be had never seen the house so una-
nimous on any question, and he trusted they would have
an opportunity Of putting their unanimity on record. Re
trusted the hon. and learned member would press his mo-
tion to a division.
Mr. CAIRNS also expressed a hope that the motion
would bo passed, and said if it were carried it would
strengthen the hands of Government hereafter in intro-
ducing a bill.
Mr. HORSFALL said like the hon. and learned member
fur the University of Dublin, he should be in a difficulty
if the motion were passed. The report having been pre-
sented only a few days ago, if he voted at all it would be
not on the merits of the question, but in order to prevent •
the house from pledging is self to an abstract resolution.
Mr. T. HANKEY regretted that the Government
should have requested the withdrawal of this motion, and
believing that the change to which it was preparatory
would be conducive to the best interests of the commercial
community, he trusted that the time was not far distant
when that change would be made.
Mr. CROSSLEY had not at all made up, his mind on the
subject, though he had listened attentively to the debate.
He hoped, therefore, that the hon. and learned member
would not divide • but, if he did, he should divide with
him. (Laughter.) „ I
Mr. SPOONER thought that an'abstract resolution -
was always objectionable, and as there appeared' to be a
desire on the part of hon. gentlemen on the Ministerial .
.side to press for a division, he should move the previous
question. •
The SPEAKER said it was not competent to the hon.
member to do so, as there was an' amendment before the
house.
Mr. J. BALL observed that four members of the com-
mission out of eight were in favour of allowing special