The Sun.
London, England, 1853-02-14 00:00:00

THE CAPRULAR COMMISSION. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. out of the American merchant ship Caspian, on the sands
in Torbay, in order to lighten her, when she will be brought
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ses- back to Plymouth for repair.
PORTSMOUTH, FEB. 13.
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The following circular has been published :-
Her Ma jesty's yacht Fairy, Master-Commander Welch,
SHEERNESS, FEB. 13.
Cathedral Commission, 1 Paxliaraent-street,
Whitehall. completed yesterday the screw experiments wit's Griffiths'
patent sci .ohwi ass opposedsb to the general screw in use in her The Horatio, 24, screw steam guard-ship, Captain the
patent
shin g . e has continued these important trials Hon. S. T. Carnegie, yesterday sent up lower yards and
Very Reverend Sir,-I. am. requested by her Majesty's
topmasts, rigged all ataunt, and bent sails. She is
during tho past week, the patentees, Messrs. Sway-ne an
Commissioners for inquiring into the State of the Cathedral
Bovill, to leave here on Monday next on her quarterly trial
and commission under which
Collegiate Churches to forward to the Dean and Chap-
s copy of the and a large party of naval officers, being on board.
cruise.
I
ter ofSo much interest do these trials of screw propulsion create
The Adder steam-tender arrived here yesterday with 40
they are acting. in the mercantile navigation world, that on Wednesday
or 50 seamen paid off from the Castor at Chatham ; they
In order to the performanceotfbtehyesbdotides
beanvjeoincoerdreocnt
Mr. Patterson, the builder of the Great Britain, was sent
were put on board the steam-sloop Barracouta, Com-
them, it will be necessary that to this port by Gibbs, Bright, and Co., of Liverpool (her
manger George Parker. The Barracouta left here at day-
vsledee of various circumstances relating to the different
kno .owners.), to witness and report the experiments, with the
light this morning for Portsmouth and Plymouth. The
capitular bodies. They would, therefore, be obliged
view (as we are informed) of Griffiths' propeller being fitted
Adder returned to Chatham yesterday. Mr. V. Williams,
your furnishing themwi'trhbco ies of your charters, statutes,
by your informing them of any to the Great Britain on her next voyage to Australia. We
Master of the Horatio, has been sent on board the and deeds of dotatio , °
racouta, to assist in navigating her to Portsmouth and
Bar-
printed work in whinch. they can be found, or of any mann- now give the general results obtained out of the great num-
ber of runs made at the measured mile in Stokes Bay, with
Plymouth.'
script copies existing in other custody than in that of the
the screw blades set at different pitches or angles. These
The Castor, 36, Commodore C. Wyvill, was paid off at
capitular body.
results have elucidated some important points in screw pro-
Chatham yesterday. Previous to her crew being paid,
They would therefore request answers to the following
pulsion. The ordinary screws (inducing those for her Ma-
Commodore Wyvill distributed the good-service medals.
questions, to be addr,essed to ' The Cathedral Commission,
jesty's ships Agamemnon, 91, and the Duke of Wellington,
The senior quartermaster received a gold medal, a gratuity
1, Parliament-street, by the 9th of April next.
131) have been made up to the present time without any
The Commissioners also. beg. to call. your attention to of 301., and 5/. per annum has been added to his original
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that part. of the commission which directs them to receive provision for altering the pitch, to meet the variety of
pension. The crew, with the exception. of a solitary. case
n der the suggestions made by the Deans and Chap- winds and currents to which all sea-going vessels. are sub-
or two, were paid off and separated in a manner highly
andss asconsider
tosl the means by which the purposes of the com- ject ; they have thus been deprived of that which now ap-
creditable to them. Very few of them volunteered for the
-el. • may be best attained, and request you to commu- pears the moist valuable feature of the screw, viz., its
service ; five only for the Imperieuse. Many of them had,
mission
nicate the suggestions of your chapter as soon as may be .power of adapting its pitch to meet every contingency. So
previous to their being paid off, engaged their passages to
difficult does it appear to be for even the most experi-
racticable.
proceed to the gold diggings ; others say, " We have no
J. B. CANTUAR, Chairman. enced engineers to determine for different vessels the cor-
notion of stopping longer in the navy, when we can get
rect pitch of the screws, that it is (we are informed)
4/. 10s. a voyage from Newcastle, Shields, or Sunderland,
1.-CONSTITUTION OF THE CHAPTER, the custom, in the navy to construct the second or spare
to London, with 21b. of good beef a-day, bread as much as
ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION. screw, which every vessel carries, of a different pitch
we can eat, and all other small stores beside."
to the other ; and it seems to be quite a matter of acci-
1. What was the constitution of the body as originally In consequence of great inconvenience to the service
established? dent wh other one or the other, or neither (which is more
having been experienced of late at this port for want of
frequently the case, we are informed), is of the right pitch
2. How many and what members and officers had it ? for the ship. This remark applies equally to the screw duly authorised pilots to take charge of men-of-war leav-
3. 'What were the duties of each ? vessels of the merchant service. During these experi- inithis port, the Admiralty have given an order that Mr.
Charles Pope, Assistant Master-Attendant of this yard,
4. What was the residence required ? meats on board the Fairy the pitch of the new propeller Mr. Peter Francis, Master of the Monarch, Mr. Gill,
5. How is such residence defined by the statutes? was repeatedly altered to test its effect, and so simple is
PRSENT CONSTITUTION. Second-Master in charge of the African steam-vessel, and
1. What is the E the arrangement for doing this that the alteration only oc- Mr. Harvey ,Second-Master in charge of the " Long Boat,"
present constitution of the body ? cupied three minutes on each occasion. In reference to shall, during the next six months, qualify themselves to
2. How many and what numbers and officers has it ? the table of experiments given below, it will be seen that pass the Trinity Board as pilots for the Thames and Med-
3. What are the duties of each ? with the new propeller the engineer can control the speed way, and the North and South Channels.
4. What residence is required ? of his engines at pleasure by increasing or reducing the Upon an information laid against Nicholas Bowling, a
5. What is understood to constitute residence ? pitch of the screw, so that in a fair wind, by increasing shipwright belonging to the yard here, for having Queen's
6. In what respect, if any, have the original statutes the pitch, the full' power of the engines working only at stores in his possession, a search warrant was granted by
been modified before or after the Reformation ? the proper speed may be exerted in effectively propelling Captain Superintendent Charles Hope, acting as magis-
7. What will be the constitution of the capitular body the vessel, instead of consuming fuel for driving round trate, and upon a search the constable found one metal
when the act 3d and 4th Victoria, chap. 113, shall have the engines (with a fine pitched screw) to no good purpose. sheave; one worn file, and some small nails, all bearing the
taken full effect ? And again, in going head to wind, by diminishing the broad arrow, and valued at lid. Captain Hope was as-
8. Are any of the canonries in whole or in part annexed pitch the engines can be made to give out their utmost sisted by Mrs W. Hayward, acting as Admiralty solicitor.
to any office in the cathedral? duty with a certainty of effectually propelling the vessel ; The case being fully proved against Bowling, he was solicitor.
Are any canonries in whole or in part annexed to any and in cases where it is desired to economise fuel as much mitted to the county gaol for three months, with hard la-
office or benefice not in the cathedral ? as possible the pitch of the screw may be increased to re- bour, and discharged from the service.
10. Have the canons residentiary houses annexed to their dime the revolutions of engines to any extent, and the
stalls, and. do they reside in them? results of the present experiments show that this might be
IL--MINOIt CANONS. done with great advantage, and no doubt in a vessel under THE HEAVY' FORCES OF THE ROYAL NAVY.
1. What is the number of vicars or minor canons ? canvas would give an extraordinary result. The large --...___.
2. How are they appointed? central ball of the new propeller gives great additional At the present moment, when so much attention is
3. To what regulations are they subject with regard to strength, and affords the opportunity of constructing directed to the condition of the navy, it will be interest-
residence and performance of their duties on Sundays and within it the very strong and, at the same time, simple ing to the general as well as the professional reader to
week-days in the cathedral or collegiate church ? and effective arrangement for altering the pitch and learn the amount of heavy force we have in commission
4. How are they paid ? What are their stipends and feathering the blades parallel to the shaft when the ship is
allowances, statutable or other? under canvas only, to which so much importance has at the present moment. Regarding our screw ships as
5. Do they jointly constitute a corporation ? lately been attached in reference to the Australian and the most effective division, we will give them the first
6. Do they hold benefices or curacies with their minor East India steamers. In the case of the fracture of one of place.
canonries ? And under what regulations ? the blades of the screw (which not unfrequently occurs), Of these, the Imperieuse, fitting at Chatham, is about
7. Have the provisions of the 3d and 4th Victoria been the patent propeller is readily repaired by shippiag a new 100 blue jackets short, and will not be ready for sea
applied to them either as respects their number or emolu- blade, weighing not more than one-sixth of the whole before the middle of March.
meats ? weight ; but with the ordinary screws, which are cast in Thus it will be seen that our heavy screw force at
111.-THE SCHOOLS. one piece, the breaking of any part is fatal, and involves present in commission consists of three ships of the line,
1. Is there a grammar school, or choristers' school, or the necessity of making a new casting. Simple as the four converted old line-of-battle ships, and six frigates.
other schools in connexion with the cathedral church ? difference may appear, it is not unimportant in large Our sailing force is as follows :-
2- How are masters appointed ? vessels with brass screws (such as are, we believe,
3. How are they paid? What are their stipends and universally used in the navy), weighing from eight to ten
allowances, statutable or other ? tons, and now worth about 2001. per ton. On Friday SCREW-BRIPS OF THE LINE.
4. Has the master a house, and are the scholars boarded the last series of experiments with Griffiths' patent propel- Guns. Men. H. -p. Stations.
in it ? for were made, when a number of naval officers were again
5. Are there any allowances made to the scholars ? on board, including Captain Crispin, Captain J. A. Duke of Wellington 131 1200 780 Portsmouth.
6. Is any provision made for them when leaving school? Stevens, Mr. Baker, inspector of machinery of her Majesty's Agamemnon
7. Are the schools open to other children as boarders or yachts ; Mr. Harttree, of the firm of Messrs. Penn and Son, Sanspareil Bl 700 450 Lisbon.
day scholars ? the makers of the Fairy's engines ; Mr. Smith, inspector
8. What are the present number and ages of foundation of screw propellers, &c. The new screw was represented
SCREW GUARD-Snips. -
scholars and others ? by Mr. Griffiths and Mr. Bovill. The destructive vibra-
IV.-LAY VICARS AND OTHERS. tion arising from the ordinary screw-to which much im-
Guns. Men. H.-p. Stations,
1. What is the number of lay vicars or clerks? portance was attached, as in larger vessels the vibration
Hogueßlenheim
impairs their strength, and not unfrequently creates great 58 500 450 Portsmouth.
2. What are their emoluments ?
58 500 450 Devonport.
3. Do they constitute a corporation ? leakage in the after part-was entirely done away with.
4. To what regulations are they subject with regard to
It will be seen, by the tables, that when the screw was put Ajax
attendance and performance of their duties in the church ? at 10-feet pitch the engines could only make 30 revolutions Edinburgh
5. What is the number of choristers, and what allowance per minute. Notwithstanding this great reduction in the
do they receive ? power employed, the mean speed of the vessel actually ob-
Scazw Fan:mars.
6. Are there any beadsmen or almsmen, and do they tained was 11.738 knots-only a quarter of a knot less than Guns. Men. H.-p. Stations.
usually attend the service of the church, and what are their was obtained with the Fairy's best screw ; 12'100 knots, -------
allowances ? with engines running 38i revolutions per minute ; thus Imperieuse
7. Are there any other statutable officers, and what are saving in power, wear and tear of machinery, and fuel, Arrogant
their emoluments? Have their duties in any case become about 25 per cent. When it was desired to increase the Amphion 35 320 300 Sheerness.
obsolete ? speed of the vessel the pitch of the new propeller was dimi- Horatio 24 325 250 Sheerness.
V.-SERVICES. noshed, the revolutions of the engines regularly increasing Dauntless 33 330 580 Parbadoes.
1. How many services are there in the cathedral on Sun- with every reduction in the pitch, and at 7-feet pitch the Highflyer
Of the above it is2l right 230t0 state that tjhaemaDicuake of
engines made 42 revolutions per minute, and the mean
days, and how many on week-days, and at what hours and
Wellington has just been commissioned, that she cannot
which of such services are choral? speed of the vessel reached 12.631 knots per hour. In
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2. What is the number of men and boys actually attend- making this comparison between the ordinary screw and
ing in the choir on Sundays and week-days respectively, the new propeller, it must be borne in mind that the
and what additions have been made to their numbers, or Fairy is considered the best screw steam-vessel in her Ma-
have any diminutions taken place, within the last twenty jesty's service, and that her present state of excellence has
years ? been obtained after trying for the last f
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3. At which of the services is there a sermon, and in
what part of the cathedral is it preached ?
considered the perfection of a screw. The new
prop the Hogue ; but the Ajax is short. The Edinburgh is
eller
4. How often is the holy communion administered in
was simply a cast-iron one, and the first attempt made
the cathedral ?
5. Is there any officer whose duty it is to deliver divinity against the Fairy's screw. the gunnery-tender to the Excellent.
lectures in the cathedral, and are such lectures delivered in The Fairy went to Stokes Bay again yesterday (Satur- THREE-DECKERS.
the cathedral or elsewhere ? day) morning with her own screw-we are informed, at Guns. Men. Stations.
VI.-THE FABRIC. the desire of Messrs. Penn and Son and Mr. Screw Inspec-
1. What is the state of the fabric ? tor Smith, to see if they could not, on a second trial, beat Britannia l2O 1000 Mediterranean.
2. What are the funds for its maintenance ? the patent propeller. The result we have not been able to Trafalgar l2O 960 Mediterranean.
3. What sums have been expended upon it during the ascertain sufficiently accurately to publish. St. George l2O 554 Devonport.
last 14 years, and from what sources, specifying the amount Table of the Trials of her Majesty's yacht Fairy at the 'Waterloot'le l2O 482 Portsmouth.'
from each? measured Mile in Stokes' 8ay.120 400 Sheerness.
4. Besides the stalls assigned to members of the chapter, WITH THE COMMON SCREW. Queen 116 400 , Devonport.
are there any seats or pews appropriated to other persons,
. Of these it will be seen that the St. George, Neptune,
and are any of them let ? 5' q 6.0 • 1 . ii ~, gosa. . . tr., and Waterloo, are flag-ships at the ports, and only
VII.-IMPROPRIATE RECTORIES.. ••-, E ea i d --,-. .ci .s 4 s-A
Runs. q,,, dv, 8 0 -7 ~, , ,45, . g _., ~, 4 t.,.. partially manned, but theyyvaaricnetoacrydonv7sinadeteerpdedocrastosminspo7-going
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...., i:4 Ai A , ships, and ought to be effective as such on anuemtehme,neortr.-
1. Of what parishes does the chapter hold the tythes in
whole or part ?
2. What is the annual value of the rectorial tytho or
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3. In whom is the patronage vested of the vicarage or
1. With tide.. 38. i 11 261;4 .49.'12.456 1 I ft
12 248 1- show-ship, but the latter is made to mount 78 guns, and
perpetual curacy ?
2. Against 3Bl 11 2614 59 12.040 ' • Si;o for .4. What is the population of each of those parishes ?
3. With tido 3B 11 261'4 57 12.121 is an admirable floating battery.
5, What is the value of the vicarage or perpetual curacy
4. Ao•a• 38 '
Against
Portsmouth. Stations.
of es ch, and from what sources derived ?
C.
With tide
3838 11 26.1 449 12.456 6. What is the number of churches in each parish with
6. Against, lll 261 5 9 11.600 } 12.053 85 for
or without districts ?
7. Have any and which vicarages or perpetual curacies Total mean speed per hour in kn0t5...12.100 London
been augmented under the powers of the Ist and 2d Wil-
ham IV., chapter 45, and to what amount ? GRIFFITHS' PATENT PROPELLER. Albion 9O 820 Mediterranean.
8. Have any and what other annual or occasional grants 1. With tide.. 30 I
11 26 ,5 17 11.356 11 26 457 12.121 } 1 ,
Vengeance Prince Regent 9O 820 Portsmouth.
2. Against 3O
been made to such vicarages or perpetual curacies? 11.738 10 3 for
VIII.-VISITOR. tide., 13. With 331. 11 26 434 13.139 ; ' :Monarch B4 300 Sheerness.
1. Who is the visitor ?
4. Against '331 11 26 15 28 10.975 } 12.057 9 5 for Bellerophon 7B 600 Mediterranean.
2. Have you any account of ancient visitations or of re- 5. Slack water. 371' 11 26 14 51 12.371 Cnniberland 7O 600 West Indies.
cent ones ?
6. Slack water. 37-j 11 26 450 12.413 1 12.392 8 5 for Boscawen 7O 316 Chatham.
3. Can you supply copies of any questions put in them ? 7. With tide.. 41.11 11 26 '4 2313.588 } Hastings 6O 600 East Indies.
4. What are the powers of the visitor ? ' s I
8.424 11 26 511 1 Against The London is, perhaps, 100 men short of complement;
tom ? 11.575 12.631 7 5 for
5. Are his general powers modified by any special cus-
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SCREW-SIIIPS OF TIIE LINE.
Guns. Men. H. -p. Stations.
Duke of Wellington 131 1200 780 Portsmouth.
Agamemnon
Sanspareil Bl 700 450 Lisbon.
SCREW GUARD-fill PS.
Guns. Men. H.-p. Stations.
Blenheim
Hogue
Ajax
Edinburgh
SCREW FRIGATES.
Guns. Men. H.-p. Stations.
Imperiouso
Arrogant
Amphion 35 320 300 Sheerness.
Horatio 24 325 250 Sheerness.
Dauntless 33 330 580 Barbadoes.
Highflyer

The London is, perhaps, 100 men short of complement;
the Rodney is in the Channel en route for the Mediter-
ranean ; the Monarch is the ordinary guard-ship at Sheer-
ness ; and the Boscawen is in the same service at Chat-
ham. But all the above are sea-going ships, and, with
the exceptions abovenamed, fully manned.

6. Is there any interpreter of the statutes other than the
visitor, and has any application been made to such inter-
preter since the Reformation ?
IX.—RELATIONS OF THE CHAPTER TO THE BISHOP AND

At the monthly examination of candidates for promotion
and entry into the navy, on the 9th and 10th inst., at the
Royal Naval College, the following qualified :
For Lieutenants—Messrs. W. H. Liddell, J. F. M`Don-
nell, T. Borrett, G. H. Barnard, W. G. Annesley, R. S.
Chisholme, J. R. Ouseley, W. O. Butler, H. G. Payne, A.
Henderson, J. Itorie, C. W. Martin, J. H. Thomas, G.
W. Carter, A, Tabuteau, H. L. Holder, G. D. Bevan, C.
Crowdy, A., T Maynard, and H. Berkeley.
For Masters—D. Hall, A. Brown, J. W. Reed, R. J. C.
Grant, 11. J. Sutton, J. G. Frewin, and P. J. Dennehy.
For Naval Cadets—Messrs. C. H. Farquharson, L. B.
Disney, 0. F. Daniel, Viscount Kilcoursie, F. S. Van der
Maulin J. D. V. Butler, T. A. S. Kynnersley, W. R.
EverarCi, J. Tracey, F. J. Pitt, E. Rice (her Majesty's ship
Odin,) and R. P. Dick.
For Master's Assistant—Master Lloyd F. M'Cullum.
For Clerks' Assistants—Messrs. W. F. Simmonds, C. D.
Du Port, A. C. Archdeacon, R. T. Jones, J. F. Allen, and
J. Campbell.
Rear-Admiral Fanshawe, C. 8., superintendent of this
dockyard, and acting port-admiral, with the clerks of the
Treasury department, proceeded to Spithead yesterday
morning in the steam-tender Fire Queen, Master Com-
mander Paul, to pay wages to the ship's company of the
Fury, 6, paddle-sloop, Commander Tatham. Captain Sir
Baldwin Walker, K.C.8., Surveyor of the Navy, Captain
W. 11. Henderson, C. 8., of the Blenheim, also went out in
the Fire Queen to board some of the steamers of the
squadron lying there.
The Banshee steam-packet, Lieutenant James Hosken,
commanding, will be ready to come out of dock into
the steam basin on the 15th. Her crew were "paid down"
yesterday morning.
The Rodney, 92, Captain Charles Graham, C. 8., sailed
from Spithead for the Mediterranean yesterday morning.
The Leander, 50, Captain King, sailed from Spithead on
a cruise yesterday morning.
A respectable tradesman of Portsea makes the following
statement in one of the local papers of yesterday :—" The
time appears to be fast approaching when tradesmen will
be obliged to give up business witlr the ships afloat. The
Leander and the Arrogant, after lying here several months,
and incurring debts, were paid on Thursday, one in the
morning and the other in the afternoon. The Arrogant
sailed the next morning without giving her men an oppor-
tunity of paying her just debts, as no tradesmen were
allowed on board ; and in the Leander several instances of
robbery werefdiscovered, which rendered it unsafe to do
business." We regret to state, in confirmation, that the
tradesmen have too much just ground for complaint in
these matters.
The Medea, 6, paddle-sloop, Commander J. C. Bailey, is
under sailing orders for the West Indies. She takes to the
Havannah Mr. Backhouse, Judge of the Mixed Commis.
sion, and Mrs. Backhouse.
The Cruiser, 14 (screw), Commander the Hon. G. H.
Douglas, having remedied the defect in her screw shaft,
was undocked yesterday afternoon, and the Rattlesnake,
8, Commander Trollope, was taken in to repair defects,
which always seem to develope themselves between the
Thames and Spithead in all ships and vessels fitted at the
eastward.

The screw three-decker Duke of Wellington, 131, Cap-
tain H. B. Martin, C. 8., is getting on fast with her fittings
in the machinery department in the steam basin. The fol-
lowing appointments were made to her last week, but the
principal of them have not yet been published in the daily
journals :—Commander G. W. Preedy, just promoted from
being first lieutenant of the Prince Regent ; Lieutenants,
L. E. H. Somerset, C. M. Luckraft, and E. E. Maunsell ;
Master and pilot, Mr. H. A. Moriarty ; Surgeon, Mr. W.
F. Legrand ; Second MasterS, Messrs. T. Oyler and F.
Taylor ; Assistant-Surgeons, Messrs. S. Bowden and G. F.
Banks ; Gunner, Mr. D. Collinburn.
The Agamemnon, 91, screw steam-line-of-battle ship,
Captain Sir Thomas Maitland. The fever cases 'on board
are not of a dangerous character. The sick are confined to
the bay, whilst the healthy are permitted exercise on shore.
We trust the fine salt-water air of Spithead will soon en-
able them to show a clean bill of health on board this hand-
some and magnificent ship. But for this sickness we should
have had the results of her speed at the measured mile at
Stokes Bay. It appears that on her coming round from
Sheerness her engines must have run away with her, as she
found herself 20 miles to the westward of the Needles on
the morning of her arrival at this port.

PLYMOUT, FEB. 12
The crew of her Majesty's screw-steamerH Desperate,. 8,
Captain W. W. Chambers, bent sails on Thursday, and on
Friday she went from Hamoaze into the Sound.
The crews of the steam-frigates Magicienne, 16, Captain
T. Fisher, and the Vulture, 6, Captain F. H. Glasse, were
paid advance of wages in the Sound on Friday.
The Nimrod, coal depot, was docked on Friday ; when
complete she will be moored in the Admiralty ground,
Plymouth Sound, for the accommodation of steam-vessels
not- requiring to go into harbour.
A French man-of-war paddle-wheel steam-ship, painted
black, from Guadaloupe, was spoken by a fishing boat off
Start Point this morning. Wind, north-east.
Efforts are making to take some of the rice and cotton