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CONSOLIDATED FUND CLIARGES BILL.

Lord BROUGHAM objected to this bill being read a
third time, till they had fairly and calmly considered in
committee what officers should be exempted from
schedule B, so that they would not have to depend for
their salaries on the annual vote of the House of Com-
mons.

Lord CAMPBELL expressed his satisfaction that the
Masters of the Common Law Courts were to be ex-
empted from the operation of the bill. But there were
others who should also have been exempted, as the Com-
missioners of Lunacy.

Lord LYNDHURST said that a minute inquiry
would be necessary to ascertain what particular officers
should be exempted.

Earl GRANV. ILLE said, that if such was the feeling
of the house, he would consent to postpone the third
reading till 'Monday.
Lord MONTEAGLE said that ho hoped then the
Lords would be summoned for Monday, as the measure
was a most important one. He would on Monday more
that the bill be referred to a select committee.
The bill was then postponed.

OXFORD UNIVERSITY BILL.
On the motion for the third reading of the bill,
The Earl of CARLISLE said that on a former occa-
sion he said that the private halls would be " retreats"
for Dissenters. His wish was that the Dissenters should
be fused with the general body of students in the univer-
sity. But if they were excluded from that by the impo.
sition of conditions which they considered to be incom-
patible with their religious belief, he said he hoped, and
he did not shrink from the word, that the new private
halls would be " retreats" for the Dissenters themselves.
The bill was then read a third time and passed.
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
CRUELTY TO ANIMALS BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
IRISH LAND BILLS.

The Earl of 1171ATICiESCURYWst;fOr the purpose of
calling the attention of the house to the conduct of the
Government in reference to the Landlord and tenant,
the Leasing Powers, and the Compensation for Im-
provement Bills—all of which referred to Ireland.
These bills were introduced by the late Government,
and when that Government left office they were re-
ferred to a select committee of their lordships' house.
That commitee, of which the noble duke, the Lord
Privy Seal, was a member, and who was considered
eessppeeectt t ot o
the thesetw o
with rn r
to represent theded Gleogvieslrantmioennt i
bills, recommended
former bills, but they did not think legislation was ad-
visable with respect to the third. He understood the
noble duke to say that he did not think it necessary to
press the passing of the Compensation Bill. The noble
duke, the Secretary for War, said the Government took
upon themselves the responsibility of the two former
bills. An opposition was raised to them in the House
of Commons on the part of a certain portion of the Irish
members, which the Government ought to have treated
in a manly way. He thought those bills, would have
passed in the present session, but he was awakened out
of
day
announcedbefore ytehsatte rtdh :7, when
Governmenttn e
nreltahned
Secretary
etrheat
at
ryd delusion i oI
would not press them this • session. He had first repu-
diated them as Government hills, and then expressed
an opinion entirely at variance
with that of the noble
duke, that there
• was no absolute necessity for the mea-
sures. From subsequent communication with the noble
duke, he learnt that he knew nothing of what was about
to be done. This was a gross instance of insubordination
on the part of an inferior officer of the Crown. Sir
J. Young said there was no time to go on with the bills:
but the delay, if any, must have been in the other house.'
He wished to know from the Government if it were true
that these bills were to be abandoned, and why, and
why Sir J. Young had taken upon himself to do this in
contradiction of other members of the Goverment.
The Duke of NEWCASTLE said the noble earl bad
signally failed in making out any charge against t•-,e
Government in reference to these bills, great as was
the ingenuity he usually displayed in getting up such
charges. He had misrepresented what took place last
session on those bills. When the bills came from the
other house, he agreed to take them up, not as Govern-
ment bills, but as measures of which he approved. He
had consented to do this at the request of Mr. Napier,
understanding that there was little or no opposition to
the bills ; but when they went into the select committee
the opposition was so great that it was necessary to
withdraw the bills. In fulfilment of his pledge, be had
brought in the three bills this session, in precisely the
same forms--not as Government bills, but P 44060
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of the pledge he had given in the last session. Now
was said the whole responsibility rested on the Govern•
ment, because the bills were introduced as Government
bills. This was not so. They were referred to a select
committee, presided over by the Duke of Argyle ; and
on his representation that the bills were good bills; th•
Government had taken on themselves the responsibility
of sending the bills down to the other house. But
there they were taken charge of. by Mr. Napier, who
would not allow the Government the credit of them, so
long as they were thought good bills, and likely to pass.
came on. It was said they had
cTubsesyi 0 continued
in teeontincuoemdmhiitsbillsup to Tuesday, when the dig.
gone down to the other house earlier than they came to
this house last year, and that they had been thorougly
sifted by their lordships. But the House of Commons
could take no cognisance of that ; they must make their
own investigation, the same as their lordships did:
Down to the very last stage Mr. Napier had charge of
the bills, and had actually given notice of eight pages
of amendment, no less than two hundred in number.
It was said the bills had been withdrawn by the
Government. This was not so ; Mr. Napier would not
allow the Government to withdraw his bill. They were
still in the House of Commons, and were probably then
under discussion. All that Sir J. Young did was to
Mate that if the bills had been in his charge he should
not, after the view expressed by the house, hare pressed
them further. He was of opinion tha:, the bills, though
good in themselves, could not be carried this session, and
that to the present state of Ireland they were not abso-
lute'y necessary. He (the Duke of Newcastle) believed
them to be good bills, and should regret if they did not
pass this year.
After a few words from several noble lords, the sub-
ject dropped, and the house adjourned at a few minute*
past nine.