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by a Legislature or undertaken by a Government, and the f Russia the right hon, gentleman sees much further than only just that the earliest opportunity should be taken to 1 —(a laugh) —whether it was the intention of the corpora- ber of acts of cruelty and oppression towards the Christian • SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. Jan. 28, is a total wreck—cargo and materials are expected
reckless levity that was displayed—and it is onthat account we can do, and that the consequence evident and apparent inform the commercial world of the course which her Ma- tion of London to build upon that site? subjects of the Sultan. No doubt they have, and in to be saved.
<O.
The stern of a vessel, making Kingston Sea,
chiefly that I have risen—the reckless levity, I repeat, that to him is, that we shall soon count the Emp.eror of Russia
siesty,s cevernruent intended to pursue. He hoped that they Lord J. RUSSELL thought the hon. and learned gen- times gone by many excesses were committed by officers
faithful ally of her Masesty. (Cheers were not to consider that the despatch of Lord Clarendon tleman had done well to call the attehtion of ' TATTERSALL'S—MONDAY, was displayed, was in my opiniondiscreditable to the very also as a cordial and
the corpora- acting under the authority of the Government. Of late I shore on the Oster Agger strand Feb. 27.
was to be the rule which was to be adopted in the Baltic, tion of ,London to the matter. lie, however, had had no y
ears, however, the practices of the Government itself ! The settling of the previous week's accounts consti- The Orbett (barque), of Liverpool, from Callao to Queens-
last degree to the grave and responsible statesmen of a civi- and laughter.)
Mr. SPOONER was very far from thinking that the because such a rule would not only be calculated to create communication with thecorporation the b• t
lined and a Christian nation. on su jec , and, and of those officers have been entirely different. Ido tilted the ohief business of the afternoon. Towards the town, which put in here Jan. 2, has discharabout 430
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had treated this subject too gravely ; for he was not collision with friendly powers andneutrals, but he was sure therefore, was unable to ' give any answer, not for one moment wish to deny that' there have been ' close, however, betting was resumed, and numerous in. tons of guano, which will be taken home by the British
Lord PALMERSTON immediately rose, and was re- house
although he differedessentially in mostof it would have effect in Is • • this ashamed to say,
his political views from the hon. member for Manchester, but would, on the contrary, rather have the effect of pro- Mr LUCAS rose to repeat a question which he had put greatest reprobation ; but,u.
.as was well observed by
-- drifted on
and reverend gentleman--(laughter)— that he completely concurred with him in the sentiments longing it. He was sorry that the Government had not to the* Chancellor of the Exchequer on a previous occasion, my noble friend, great military enterprises have been NORTHAMPTONsIIIRE STAKES.— Lamprocles was in
VESSELS SPOKEN WITH.
strong demand at 7 to 1 ; and Defiance, passing Red
Mr. COBDEN', interrupting—l rise to order. The noble which he had expressed that evening. It was an awful long since informed the world of the course to be adopted
anyas tofwerhtehtehrepr
rioteweedas
itehgesinatgenniteisotnomfrt.hsehGaowvernofmthenetptoutbalkine undertaken b the Sultan, and oftentimes at the instiga-
-7 The Mary, from Clyde to Valparaiso, Dec. 20, lat. 58,
Lion, assumed a threatening attitude at 10 to 1.
engage in war, and he
.agreed with. the hon. mem- towards ships of friendly
.nations and. the ships of Englishtion of the British Government, to punish and put down long. 72 E.
lord has, I believe, made use of an epithet in speaking of thing to
ber that it was not at festivals like the one in question that subjects ; because if this information be only given when STAKES. A ood deal The Agnes, from the Clyde, out 13 days, March 8, Ist.
my hon, friend, that is not justified by the rules of this a
great nation should be called upon, headed by her Ma- the ice broke up,in the Baltic, and if merchants had made Commercial Jeolial for Publishing a penny periodical nn_ such persons as have abused their authority ; and my GREAT METROPOLITAN g of
isit:mped?_ When he asked this question before, the right noble friend adverted, in exemplification of this, to the money was put on Ariosto at 12 ton lArd 10 to 1 ; 14 50 N., long. 14 W.
house. (Hear, and some laughter.) I trait I shall not jesty's Ministers, to express an opinion as to the policy of their arrangements in ignorance of what the Government
an answer
Chancellor of the Eachequeogave him campaign which was waged against the Koord hieftain and 16 to 1 laid against Jonathan Martin, the latter The Gleniffer (barque), for Liverpool, Feb. 24, Marc 34
misinterpret his meaning when I say that it was not in- going to war. He contended that the right hon. baronet intended to do, many persons would fairly complain that h (Mr. Lucas) believed was founded upon who had committed such abominable excesses against the odds still offered at the close ; 1000 to 60 Rata Man and N long 33 W
tended to be personally offensive, but I think I shall not had not met the question in the way in which it ought to they had been taken by surprise and robbed of property a misapprehension of the facts. The right hon, aentleman Nestorians. Wed, therefore, as far as the conduct of the NH to 60 twice agst Haco, against whom 20 to 1 was .'ilie fa*ily (Prussian schooner), from Portsmouth to Mel'
have been met; and when he accused the hon member of which the thought themselves fairly entitled to retain • 7 . •in contradiction of a statement made by him (MI. Lucas), Turkish Government is concerned, we have no reason to2o WS
be contradicted by a majorityof this house when I saythat
standing al • • •
one upon the present occasion, he could tell him The Government might have seen so long ago that war was then stated that theverdict tyrannicalproceedings e •
of the jury was, as he was in- complain of any cruel and against I afterwards laid to 100/.; Lamprocles was also in favour bourne, Jan. 30, on the equator, and long.
for this event ; 1000 to 50 was taken twice. The May (barque), horaewar'd bound, Feb. 18, lat. 23
it was flippant and undeserved. that the country was with that hon, member in the view in the distance, and therefore they should have considered formed in opposition to the charge of the judge. Since the Christian population of that country. With regard N., long. 35 W.
CHESTER Cue.—Nothing done about the favourite ;
The Lancashire Witch, of Liverpool, outward bound,
Lord PALMERSTON—I will not quarrel about words which he took of the impropriety of so commencing a war, what they ought to do with ships of friendly nations and then he (Mr. Lucas) had seen a short-hand writer's notes to the Greek insurrection I confess Ido not myself
March 6, lat. 49 N. long. 12 W.
--(a laugh)—but as the hon. gentleman has
.been pleased and he was quite sure that the great bulk of the thinking the rights of neutrals. This was a question which of allof the
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at the people of this nation lamentedwhat had taken lat the others recanted itself -;ri f - , r times • e •
to advert to the circumstance of my being chairman
The Charles Richards, of London, March 6, lat. 48 N.
Reform Club. He did not re roach the Government
begsfr and unless it was dealt with in a better spirit and on jury was in strict accordance with the charge. He now same time, we cannot shut our eyes to the fact that 40 to 1 was taken to 1001. about Baal bec, and 40 to 1
THE Two THOUSAND.—Boiardo was restored to the long. 11 W. '
dinner to which allusion has been made, and as he has been
having undertaken this war, because he believed it to
Kind enough to express an opinion as to my conduct on that
just and necessary war. He did not blame them for not United States of America. If Lord Clarendon's despatch stillwieredt
he did retained
retain that opinion, whether it was the inten
opinion he had before expressed, and, if I can assure the house that the troops which have been for both this and the Derby. 'A small ii stment was 38 N., long. 17 W.
occasion, I deem it right to inform the hon. gentleman that having hastened it, because he thought that they had shown were to be acted upon as good public law, every Araerican
. sent from this country are sent to uphold that great ' made on Champagne at 7to 1. The William Carey (brig), of Dundee, from Alexandria,
any opinion he may entertain either of me personally, or of a wise discretion in not doing so. Neither did he blame packet and merchant ship would be liable to be boarded by tion of the Crown to direct successive prosecutions until a cause in which she his engaged—a cause' not such as it made
DERBY.--600 to 100 taken about A.utocrat, and March 8, lat. 48 N., long. 9W.
from a Dublin jury ?
theymaking,rummage cargo,
in verdict in accordance with its wishes could be obtained appears to some gentlemen, for our objects in this under- 7
my conduct, private or political, is to me a matter of the them for the exertions which were now because British cruisers to the in order to see
The Ashley (barque), Feb. 21, lat. 24 N., long. 36 W.
700 to 100 about King Tom ; not, however, with a , The Guy Mannering, from Callao to Queenstown, Jan•
most perfect indifference. (Cheers and laughter.)am he thought that in that respect the country was with them; whether or not there wore some bales or packages which
taking are not to enter apes a religions war in Greece— marked degree of confidence. 1,800 to 200 and 900 to 26, lat. 19 S., long. 26W. '
I but he believed that they would have had a.greater amount directly or indirectly, the Russians had an interest ; and if The CHANCEtLoL of the EXCHEQUER said that he the object which the British Government has in view, and
further convinced that the opinion of this country with of support from the thinking part of the nation if they had this discovery should be made, the cargoes would be carried had not referredithe charge of the judge since the last the object which the country
.will bear out. the Government The Prince Albert (ship), same day.
regard to me and to my conduct will in no way whatever entered into this war with a more solemn feeling, and ex- into port, and condemned by some Admiralty court. He occasion on which the men • 1,500 to 50 and 1,000 to 40 Mars as ; 600 to 20
, 100 taken about Dervish ; 1,800 to 100 Wild Hunts-
question was put. Ho was not per- in endeavouring to att., , -in is the maintenance of those ' , The Zillah (schooner from Lisbon to
be influenced by anything that the hon. gentleman may pressing, at least, a deeper sense of the responsibility was in hopes that a sounder policy would be adopted, and sonally cognisant of the proceedings on the trial, but it ofnational independencewhich
great principles
which devolved upon them. He believed that this was the that free ships would free goods t and that thus this coon- would be most surprising to him, if the authority from h9t Turkey tth Governmentsf R •
alone, no merely a o Russiaße-, ;and73nedgclis3oto 13...(,)001(1) ctrottalr,ioyoC3l3itt.coi. 25 and 875 to 25 . w ),
The Jol Edwards from Calcutta, Dec. 27, lat. 34 S.,
say. I therefore treat the censure of the hon. gentleman
first time that war had been so near im ending upon try would be spared the great risk of being brought into h
w whom he obtained his information should prove to have and Turkey, but all the great nations of Europe, and apply The some-time-absent Hesse Cassel again loomed in long 27 E.
with the most perfect indifference and contempt. (Some .
been in error, At the same time he was not aware that to all the countries of the civilised world. (Hear, hear.) the future, but three bets of 1,000 to 15 each were not The Shirley, from Manilla Jan. 2, lat. 35 s., long. 22 B.
cries of " Order !") Is that Parliamentary or not ? (Laugh- which the Government had not advised the Sovereign to collision with friendly powers. (Hear, hear.)
proclaim a solemn fast. It was the duty of a Christian Mr. WILSON said he wished to correct a mis-statement tsihtey
dcoenpdenudctu.opfontthheeCfaaoevterntoment would of absolute neces- Sir, we are going into this war not upon the narro w calculated to revive the faded hopes of his early backers. The Asia (transport), displayina a blue 'Haien and man;
ter.) If it is not, Ido not insist upon the expression. nation to acknowledge Providence in all its affairs. We of what he said on Friday night on this subject, which had •
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which the hon. gentleman grounds upon which some hon. gentlemen have based the CLOSING PRICES. of war flag, standing to the Southward,' Feb. 23, off
was the intention of the Government to raise successive
(Cheers and laughter.) The hon. gentleman has stated that boasted of our fleets, of our armies, and of the good feeling appeared in several of the Public PaP°rs. The question Put had referred. The hon. gentleman had asked whether it question, but in defence of the rights and interests which Ascension.
COVENTRY HANDICAP,
he felt the greatest pain on reading the proceedings which of the people but the battle was not always to the to him had nothing to do with the imports to or exports
country o
belong to Turkey in common with every otherfThe Savannah, standing to the south-west, Feb. 20, lat.
strong, neither was the race to the swift, and he from Russia. It was solely a commercial question which suits until they got 4to 1 agst Georgey (taken).
a verdict in their favour. He (the Europe ; and I, therefore, hope that the house and the 26 N., long. 33 W.
took place at this dinner. That pain • arises, no doubt, her
trusted that the noble lord would yet see fit to had been decided. by the
by
having reference to Chancellor of the Exchequer) had never said anything country will see that that cause will require to be sup- 4to 1 agst Battery (taken).
The Lindu, Feb. 24, Marc 35 N., 10ng..,6
from the manner in which the members of the Reform advise her Majesty to call uPou all her subjects to join to- Russian produce imported by a neutral power in a neutral which would imply that the Government had any such in- Ported by a great effort and I trust to Heaven that that sto 1 agst Whalebone. The Ottowa (s. s.), March 6, lat. 50N long. 23 W.
Club were pleased to testify their confidence in Sir Charles gether in imploring the mercy and praying for the guid- ship, the property of neutral subjects. He was sorry to say tention. (Hear, , hear.) The Government had acted in effort will be successful. (Cheers.) NORTHAMPTONSHIRE STAKES. The Helvetia, March 7, lat. 50 N., long. BW.
Napier, and their satisfaction at finding that a distinguished ance of Providence, and in committing to his care the awful that his observations had been misreported in some of the compliance with the advice of their legal office mr. GuissoN complained of
rs, under the discordant opinions ex- 7to 1 agst Lamprocles (taken freely). The Sir James Ross, of London, March 9, lat. 5 N.;
interests now about to be involved. If he had allowed the newspapers, while in others they were correctly given. The
long. 10 W.
member of his profession, happening also to be a member whose consideration this matter now was ; and it was im- pressed by different Ministers of the Crown as to the b. t o jec
10 to 1 agst Defiance (taken.)
jokes of the noble lord the Secretary of State, or even the question . . . put to him was to this effect :—" If Russian ro-
t'. possible for him to announce anything as to their future of the war. He asked whether there was a convention, or The Magician, from Liverpool, for La Guayra, March 51
12 to 1 agst Red Lion (taken).
of the club, had been selected for a most important post at
Prussiangulf intentions until he had learned what was the advice given anything in writing, on the subject of the privileges of the lat 49 le., long. 10 W.
portan view wlc or o er neu ra vesse , was suc redopce o e e sacre
a time of great public emergency. The hon. member, I have diverted attenti rom the im t•h' h th t 1 1 ht bhld d them by those gentlemen. Christians in Turkey between the Governments of England GREAT METROPOLITAN STAKES. The Charlemagne, from the Cape of Good Hope for
dare say, read with great pain an account of any manifes- had been put forth by the hon. member for Manchester, or liable to seizure ?
and France and Turkey, and, if so, whether it could be 10 to 1 agst Ariosto (taken freely).
BILL STAMPS. Queenstown, Feb. 20, lat. 3 N. long. 26 W.
ration tending in any degree towards the expression of an he felt that he should have been guilty of a great neglect LEICESTER GAOL. placed on the table? He protested against the doctrine 16 to 1 agst Jonathan Martin (taken). The Jean, Arbroath, March 1, lat. 23 N , long. 21 .
In reply to a question from Mr. VANCE
opinion that there should be a recourse to arms, no matter of duty. (Hear, hear.)
Sir H. SALFORD wished to call the attention of the The CHANCELLOR
of the EXCHEQUER said that he
, that we were entitled to rivet any government upon any 16 to 1 agst Rata. plan (taken). The Arno (s.s.), March 6, lat. 39 N ion* .10 W.
n g
what might be the interests or the cause at stake. (Cheers.) Mr. COBDEN would not have said a word upon this oc-
country, contrary to the wishes of the people. 20 to 1 agst Lamprocles (taken).
noble lord the Secretary for the Home Department to the should move that the order of the day •
for the committee on Sir R. PEEL,believingthat the conduct of the Govern-14
The hon. member, I have no doubt, sympathises with that casion but for the remarks of his right hon. friend the
commissioners appointed to inquire '
20 to 1 agst Haco (taken).
report of the into the the bill relating to the stas on bills of exchange shouIdCOUNTRY MARKETS.
respectable gentleman whose pamphlet I read on a former member for Southwark. He unhesitatingly stated that,
He . ment would bear the closest scrutiny, thought Parliament
management and discipline of the county gaol at Leicester. be read in order that it might C HESTER CUP.
i occas on, and I daresay the hon. member is of opinion that if there were one hon. member with whose public course Hbe postponed. He wished was entitled to express its opinion upon the condition of •
(Oh, oh.) eun erstood that the noble lord had promised the postponement of this committee in order that
this country ought to submit to arlY degradation rather through a long political life he had greater acquaintance
to lay the report on the table aftr it had been referred to • he the Christians in Turkey. The Greek insurrectionary 40 to 1 agst Baalbec (taken). CHELMSFORD—MARCH 10.
than have recourse to war. (Hear, hear.) That is an than another, it was that of his right hon. friend the mem-might enlarge the information which he possessed in regard movement was not the result of any immediate crisis in 40 to 1 agst Umbriel (taken).
thee law officers of the Crown. Four months had now to the very difficult question of the amount of foreign bills To -day the beet samples of wheat barely in aintained last
opinion which the hon. member is perfectly justified in ber for Southwark; and yet, without claiming the title to
Eastern affairs ; it was the consequence of a state of things TWO THOUSAND GUINEAS. tfa
lapsed since the presentation of the report, and during the that were negociated in this countr On thef week's prices and on inferior qualities we must repor
maintaining. Ido not dispute his right to maintain such be his chief, he thought that there were good grounds for
hole of that time the magistrates had been exposed to the right hon. 1 y. motion o which had lone engaged the solicitude of different statesmen.
3to 1 agst Boiardo (taken 7to 2). reduction of is to 2s per qr. Grey peas experienced a dna
an opinion, but he stands almost singly in that opinion believing that the opinions which had been attributed to w gent man the order was read and oat o p p ned Mr. DRUM'MOND described the embarrassments which
He believed that no *ustifiable imputation u •
great obloquy. .1 . . until Monday neat. 4to 1 agst Ruby (offered). sale. Other kinds of spring corn firm at last week's prices-
on this occasion, with the great majority of the country him by the hon. naJmber for Manchester might almost ma- great
rested upon them. The chief commissioner had THE PACKET SERVICE. must inevitably attend any interference on behalf of the
7to 1 agst Champagne (taken). Prices to-day were as follow :—Wheat, white, old 70s t°
against him. I can only say that I felt very proud at thematically be demonstrated to be the opinions which he whatever humanit of the overnor ofthe Christians of Turkey, and advised the Government to ab-
borne testimony to the y g
being invited by the Reform Club, to preside at the had always entertained with respect to our foreign policy.
believing that the report would completely ex- given stain from so hazardous an attempt. DERBY. to 85s tkl, new 70s to 85s; red, old 58s to 80s new 61s t")
dinner to which allusion has been made- (Loud They might be justly characterised as the principle of PT"' andh
that •
There being no amendment before the house, the discus- 6to 1 eget Autocrat (taken.)
cu pate the magistrates, etrusted at it would very soon put to him on this subject by Mr. Herbert, represented the 21s to 30s ; malt, 61s to 65s ; chevalier, 64s to 70s ; oats,
cheers.) I thought it an honour conferred on Me non-intervention. If they were not, he should say that, be laid on the table. sion here terminated. 7to 1 agst King Tom (taken).
opinion of the Government, or only that of himself, as the 22s to 29s ; peas, partridge, 4+s to 45s ; white, 48s to sJ.sa,
'when I was asked to preside at a dinner given to my gallant after 15 years' acquaintance with the right hon. gentle- The motion for the ad' rnment of the house was then
adjournment head of a department ? WAYS AND MEANS. 9to 1 agst Dervish (taken and offered). boiling 5s to 61s ; dun, new, 41s to 418 ;beans, tick, 41,'
friend Sir Charles Napier. The hon. member for Man- man, he had been more mistaken than ever he had been
withdrawn.
18 to 1 agst Wild Fluntsman (taken),
cheater thinks that Sir Charles Napier is too old for his in his life with regard to the opinions of an individual, Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that the answer which he nsr DISRAELI asked whether the Chancellor of the to 42s ; Harrow ticks, 38s to '44s ; Mazagan, 38s to 415.
25 to 1 agst Marsyas (taken).
duties. The result will show whether he is too old or not, and, if there were one man more than another who THE CONFIDENTIAL COMMTJNICATIONS WITH had given to the question referred to expressed the delibe- *
Exchequer meant to go on with ways and means at that
(Cheers.) The hon. member for Manchester, moreover, he should have said ought not to have attended that Re- RUSSIA. rate opinion of the board over which he had the honour to 30 to 1 agst Acrobat (taken).
hour (twelve o'clock) ? He certainly should object. COLCHESTER —MARCH 11.
preside.
35 to 1 agst Bessus (taken).
thinks that these dinner arrangements must be Cabinet form Club dinner, and have made a speech, the right hon. Mr. DISRAELI—Sir, I wish to make an inquiry of her
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not Ave ry languid market for all descriptions of gratnn.
questions. Now, I can assure him that they are open goes- member for Southwark was the one. The right hon. gen- Majesty's Ministers respecting some account of their con. RECEIPT STAMPS. ask the committee to commence then, if it were intended 40 to 1 agst Corin (taken). Wheat and barley were Is to 2s per qr. cheaper, and vets
horns. (Cheers and laughter.) They are not discussed in tleman separated himself, as a member of the club, from duct which has recently appeared in two newspapers. One in reply to a uestion from Mr. G. H
The CHANCELLOR A:l3
lELD'
to oppose the resolutions at every stage. If it was only 50 to 1 agst Early Bird (taken), little doing at the decline. Beans and peas each ls per cl''
the Cabinet; and, though I confess the speech of the hon. himself as a member of the Government. He (Mr. Cob-
of these • • ELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, said that • journals is published at St. Petersburg—the other he had notyet fixed time ' intended to debate then he thought they might proceed. 1000 to 15 agst Hesse Cassel (taken). 1 ewer.
member was calculated to excite any but a friendly feeling den) spoke of him in all capacities, whether as a member
is published in London. The first journal is called the Jour- bill for the amendment of the law as to receipt stamps, P
on my part, I will only say, in conclusion, that if ha of the club, or of the Government, or as a politician un-
any opinton of the financial scheme, nor had there been fit RACING FIXTURES FOR 1854. red, 76s to 84s ; barley, 3:Ss to 428 ; oats 26s to 32s •; Wall!!
should get himself elected a member of the Reform Ciab— connected with either, and he had always believed his sal of St. Petersburg, and the other journal is the Times, which, however, he thought he should possibly be able to opportunity for its discussion. The house would, he was
MARCH. Mazaga, 38s to 40s ; middle and small, 105 to 46s ; Pe'''''
(cries from several hon. members of "He is !")—Oh !he right hon. friend to have entertained those opinions which In a number of the Journal of St. Petersburg recently pub_ introduce together with the billrelating to stamps
on bills sure, be prepared to support her Majesty in the impending white, 60s to 61s ; grey, 40s to 465. ,
is a memer, is he (Mach laughter.) A most unworthy had been attributed to him by his hon. friend the member lished, there is a state • •
statement that about this time last year,
of exchange.
war, but it did not necessarily follow that the particular Warwiek Spring 21 I Northampton 29
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member, I must say. (Renewed laughter.) If, however, for Manchester. When he had heard, therefore, the acri-
THE INSURRECTION IN TURKEY form in which the ministerial proposition presented itself Catterick 27 I Abergavenny
30 Offic ISt
ia atement of the Quantities of Corn, &c., re 's .
the hon. member should fall into the humour of the Re- mony and want of temper with which his right hon. friend or even at an earlier date, communication took place be- Mr. M. MILNES called the attention *was the form which the house would agree
of the house to . to. It was a
in the port of London, from
, the following portes7A s
form Club (a laugh), and should attend the next dinner had retorted upon his hon. friend, he must gay that the tween her Majesty's Government and the Government of the circumstances ash G ek •
e re insurrection in Turkey, and proposal virtually to double the tax, which of late years APRIL. the 6th to the 11th March, both inclusive
which is given in honour of a distinguished officer who is tone and temper of his right hop.. friend carried back to Russia, of a very confidential character, in which, accord- express d e apprehensions that the most disastrous tense- had been subject to considerable criticism, and had met Croxton Park 4 Catterick Bridge 19 'se:--- x.
about proceeding upon an important public service, I can his recollection a remark which he had often heard, that ing to the allegations in the
Journal of St. Petersburg, the quences would follow if it were permitted to be suppressed with much opposition, and which had been characterised by •
Epsom Spring 6 Abergavenny . 2O sa „ . a .
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only say that we shall be happy to hear his speech. when persons expressed contempt of anybody in strong most frank and unreserved declaration
was made by the with •
h unrestr •
amed cruelty and violence. It was the duty hon. members on the opposite side of the house as unjust, Cheltenham S •
pring 12 York Spring 25 g . :e. . 0 .
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(Laughter.) Although it might not add to the conviviality terms, and with a great amount of temper, they did not of this country to endeavour by mediation and every fair oppressive, and inquisitorial. He would not contend that 27 44 c,„ 1.-4 _ 8 a, r :..
of the evening, yet I can assure the hon. gentleman that, very often feel all that contempt which they expressed, Emperor of Russia of his views present and future with re- means to put a atop to these calamities,Newmarket Craven 17 Melton
and the appoint- that was a reason why the house should not vote an increase
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whether he may be in that state in which he assumes my but rather a feeling of self-accusation and mortification. spout to the condition of the Turkish empire. I need not me tof British • •
n a commissioner to watch the contest might of the tax when the exigencies of the country required
right hon. friend (Sir J. Graham) not to have been (a His right hon. Mena had separated himself from his office remind the house that any statement made in t Newmarket F S
he Journal be attended with the best effects. Since we were tom- it •; but it was a reason, when statesmen of such high -10 all
laugh), or whether he may be able—as I doubt not he as a Cabinet Minister, but he ventured to say that his hon, of St Petersburgis always considered Pelted to k m 3 war, it should be our object to make even thority and influence had described this tax in such epi- Chester Spring 9 Lewes l9 Harwich
an authoritative and '
Leigh
would be—to go through the festivities of the evening with friend had levelled his charges at those three distin-the instrumenta'of
23 345 128; 47 188 29: si'
war
Malden sa4 84' 100 33 3.7 if
the same clearness of intellect as he manifests on all etas- guished gentlemen who had attended the Reform Club official statement. Sir, on Saturday last an article appear- moral a.nd intellectual welfare of the world. •
subject without due thought and deliberation. (Hear.) Newmarket S S l6 Liverpool Hunt Spring ..24 _ - --- -- ' --;--;::'
sions in this house, I can assure him that we shall be solely in their capacity as Cabinet Ministers. (Hear ed—a leading article—in the English newspaper,Lord J RUSSELL—I have no difficulty in '
the J. saying that The reason why hon. members who had formerly charac- 18 Epsom 30 Shrewsbury
ready to discuss with him any question—public or private, hear.) He had not said a word about theeloquent' T.and I believe I have "
tines,
unjust, oppressive, and inquisitorial, JUNE.
KIRKCALDY—MARoat 11. • '''''
of peace or of war, which he may choose to start, and I speeches of the noble member for M Ibry le bone or of the , also was an authoritative and official statement, because has addressed the house. I agree with him in thinking that voted in favour of its continuance last year was that by r
should not think that he disgraced himself by attending a hon. and gallant member for We • a stminster because they did • it is our duty to do all that inour to ' so doing they world ' • - Manchester
dinner given by the club to any distinguished man whom not hold that responsible position • hat 'observations d. tit referred o circumstances which could be known not onl
13 Stockbridge ... ........ •-29 small of both barley and wheat. Sales quick for barlei,
p ,his. toY the condition of •• is
the Christian subjects of the Porto ' , and in- tart' reform. The house would recollect that they now had Ascot Heath
the club might think proper to honour by inviting him to had been addressed to r nembers of the Cabinet, in whose men who were Privy Councillors,
but only to Pri ry fluencing its conduct as far as we can •; for it is impossible not the income tax without the modification which N tl T 20 Ludlow
the late ewcas e.on- yne
alit
P artake of their hospitality. (Cheers.) hands rested, after all, the realquestion ofCouncillors who were Cabinet Ministers In that leading to assent t •
. peace and . .0 what my hon. friend stated in the early part of his Government had proposed and they did not a ppear to have Hampton 2l Winchester 3O slow owing to farmers asking high prices. Latter l wh— ,
was taken off at is per qr. advance. Oats the same s"
Sir T. HERBERT said, the observations to which allu- war, although it was called the prerogative of the Crown. article of Saturday last, in the Times, there is a notice of speech, that notwithstanding the most liberal edicts on the much chance of a large •
measure of Parliamentary reform. Carlisle 26 last week.
sion had been made had been read with great surprise (Hear.) These speeches could have little effect as tending tit.
e is statement in the Journal of St. Petersburg, namely, part of the Sultan, and the greatest anxiety on the part (Hear, hear.) But, with respect to this proposal to double JULY.
and, he might say, with great pain by members of the to war, because have been • •
Wheat. I Barley. 1 Oats. I 803128*
profession to which he had the honour to belong. (Hear, minds fthose
war muetefore
I; inevitable in the that in the early part of last year there was a lengthened of his the to carry into effect the laws with equal the income tax, it would first be necessary to consider the
Newmarket
they made . those speeches ;correspondence between the Russian G justice to all his subjects, there are, by means sometimes state of the finances and resources of the country before
ear.) He would be the last man to grudge his distin- but, thene'gentlemen •
, what became of their conduct in sending out e Government and her of ignorant and. corrupt persons, but more frequently by corning to a final conclusion ; and the question which would Worcester
igu shed and gallant friend, Sir C. Napier, any compliment offers of peace to Russia ? (Hear hear. ) He had felt Ma'esty's Government i which frank d of a licentious sold'
J , n wan unreserved ea- means wry, great evils inflicted upon be perpetually recurring would be, why was this increase Lancaster 6 Nottingham 2O Third s6s Od I 30s Od I 25s Od 1 Os e°
or honour that might be paid to him; but he (Sir T. Her- since the noble lord, the leader of the house, had •
made his •
positions of the sentiments and views of the Emperor ofMansfield
the subjects of the Sultan, of which neither he nor his of the tax demanded, and what was the ob• f h
ject ot at mys-11 Goodwood 25 Oatmeal, per bag of 2801bs imperial, 44s Od to 00s Od,
ert), conceiving that the language attributed to a eentle_ speech, that war wa,s inevitable but what he wanted to know- Ministers could approve. The advice that has been at all terious struzgle in which the country was now about to Liverpool l2 Ripon 31
Russia, with regard to the state of the Turkish empire, • •
' . man holding the high position of First Lord of the bAdmi- was, how we should ever have peace again ? The end and times given by Lord Stratford, has tended very much to engage? The papers presented to Parliament had not yet Ipswich 13 COAL MARKET,—Masan 13.
rally, as having been addressed to a political club, was object of war must after all be
was made. In the Times newspaper the authenticity • • • •
of mitigate the evil , and only very lately he advised the Sul- fully explained the state and progress of the and AUGUST. Prices of Coal per ton at the close of the market :
most extraordinary, deemed it his duty to put the following him that the speeches of those Cabinet Ministers had not that statement is unequivocally admitted. It is not
onlytan, upon the breaking out of this insurrection, that none supplementary documents were promised to be laid question,
8. d.j Wallsend, &c.
question to the right hon. baronet :—Whether certain only rendered war inevitable, but peace impossible. (Hear, admitted, but allusionsare made to but regular and welldisciplined upon Br' hton
public despatches .. troops should be employed the table. He thought the better plan would be to postpone lg - 2 Egham 22 Carr's Hartley 2O 6! s. 13.
words attributed to him in a speech delivered at a dinner hear.) A French historian had laid it down as a maxim: written by the then Secretary of State for Foreign Af- for its suppression. My hon. friend is quite right in saying the committee of ways and means until Friday next, when Brighton Club
• 0
given in the Reform Club to Admiral Sir C: Napier had that no English Ministry that had entered into a war had that art of this insurrectio p . n—l believe the greater part— they would be in a better position to form an opinion on Wolverhampton
fairs, the noble lord opposite, in reply to those co
21 3
been correctly reported, which appear in the Tim of the ever lived to see the end of it. Possibly, the right hon. comma- was owing to the conduct of the soldiery who were sent to the subject. With respect to those additional dean- Yarmouth 8 Eccles
Bth day of march, viz., " We, as Reformers, may be proud gentlemen had that impression upon their minds, and they nications from St. Petersburg. More than that. In this •
put downinsurrection movements; but, sir, at the same time mentos, he trusted that they would be given in. cxtenso Readin
that the honour of the British flag in the Eosins and the did not, therefore, feel burdened with that responsibility authoritative and official article ' in the Times newspaper we think it our duty to discourage as much as possible these In a diplomatic correspondence ther •. ht b • * g
e mig e occasions Odiham 9 Derby 29 Tanfield Moor lB 0, Russell's Hetton . 21 °
7 0
Baltic is intrusted to two such champions as Admiral Dun. which otherwise might attach td them. (Hear,
, hear.) there is a reference to certain communications upon the movements. We cannot think that an insurrection Iwhen itrightand
among
on 6
Wry 1 1 wart a 1b.,. , 0., ... -.1
gas and Sir C. Napier?" The motion for the adjournment of the house was then same subject, • •
the Christian namely, the condition of the Turkish em- gist
~.subjects _of the Porte would tend to im- and confidential character; but in a case like this whpv. ...,- , . .
Sir J. GRAHAM—If the hon. and gallant admiral deli- withdrawn.

ey a Legislature or undertaken by a Government, and the
reckless levity that was displayed—and it is on that account
chiefly that I have risen—the reckless levity, I repeat, that
was displayed, was in my opiniondiscreditable to the very
last degree to the grave and responsible statesmen of a civi-
lised and a Christian nation.
Lord PALMERSTON immediately rose, and was re-
ceived with considerable cheering. He said—Sir, the hon.
and reverend gentleman—(laughter)—
Mr. COBDEN, interrupting—l rise to order. The noble
lord has, I believe, made use of an epithet in speaking of
my hon. friend, that is not justified by the rules of this
house. (Hear, and some laughter.) I trait I shall not
misinterpret his meaning when I say that it was not in-
tended to be personally offensive, but I think I shall not
be contradicted by a majorityof this house when I saythat
it was flippant and undeserved.
Lord PALMERSTON—I will not quarrel about words
—(a laugh) —but as the hon. gentleman has been pleased
to advert to the circumstance of my being chairman at the
dinner to which allusion has been made, and as he has been
Kind enough to express an opinion as to my conduct on that
occasion, I deem it right to inform the hon. gentleman that
any opinion he may entertain either of me personally, or of
my conduct, private or political, is to me a matter of the
most perfect indifference. (Cheers and laughter.) lam
further convinced that the opinion of this country with
regard to me and to my conduct will in no way whatever
be influenced by anything that the hon. gentleman may
say. I therefore treat the censure of the hon. gentleman
with the most perfect indifference and contempt. (Some
cries of " Order !") Is that Parliamentary or not ? (Laugh-
ter.) If it is not, I do not insist upon the expression.
(Cheers and laughter.) The hon. gentleman has stated that
he felt the greatest pain on reading the proceedings which
took place at this dinner. That pain arises, no doubt,
from the manner in which the members of the Reform
Club were pleased to testify their confidence in Sir Charles
Napier, and their satisfaction at finding that a distinguished
member of his profession, happening also to be a member
of the club, had been selected for a most important post at
a time of great public, emergency. The hon. member, I
dare say, read with great pain an account of any manifes-
tation tending in any degree towards the expression of an
opinion that there should be a recourse to arms, no matter
what might be the interests or the cause at stake. (Cheers.)
The hon. member, I have no doubt, sympathises with that
respectable gentleman whose pamphlet I read on a former
occasion, and I daresay the hon. member is of opinion that
this country ought to submit to any degradation rather
than have recourse to war. (Hear, hear.) That is an
opinion which the hon. member is perfectly justified in
maintaining. Ido not dispute his right to maintain such
an opinion, but he stands almost singly in that opinion
on this occasion, with the great majority of the country
against him. I can only say that I felt very proud at
being invited by the Reform Club, to preside at the
dinner to which allusion has been made. (Loud
cheers.) I thought it an honour conferred on me
when I was asked to preside at a dinner given to my gallant
friend Sir Charles Napier. The hon. member for Man-
chester thinks that Sir Charles Napier is too old for his
duties. The result will show whether he is too old or not.
(Cheers.) The hon. member for Manchester, moreover,
thinks that these dinner arrangements must be Cabinet
questions. Now, I can assure him that they are open ques-
tions. (Cheers and laughter.) They are not discussed in
the Cabinet ; and, though I confess the speech of the hon.
member was calculated to excite any but a friendly feeling
on my part, I will only say, in conclusion, that if he
should get himself elected a member of the Reform Clab—
(cries from several hon. members of " He is !")—Oh ! he
is a member, is he ? (Much laughter.) A most unworthy
member, I must say. (Renewed laughter.) If, however,
the hon. member should fall into the humour of the Re-
form Club (a laugh), and should attend the next dinner
which is given in honour of a distinguished officer who is
about proceeding upon an important public service, I can
only say that we shall be happy to hear his speech.
(Laughter.) Although it might not add to the conviviality
of the evening, yet I can assure the hon. gentleman that,
whether he may be in that state in which ho assumes my
right hon. friend (Sir J. Graham) not to have been (a
laugh), or whether he may be able—as I doubt not he
would be—to go through the festivities of the evening with
the same clearness of intellect as he manifests on all occa-
sions in this house, I can assure him that we shall be
ready to discuss with him any question—public or private,
of peace or of war, which he may choose to start, and I
should not think that he disgraced himself by attending a
dinner given by the club to any distinguished man whom
the club might think proper to honour by inviting him to
partake of their hospitality. (Cheers.)
Sir T. HERBERT said, the observations to which allu-
sion had been made had been read with great surprise,
and, he might say, with great pain by members of the
profession to which he had the honour to belong. (Hear,
hear.) He would be the last man to grudge his distin-
guished and gallant friend, Sir C. Napier, any compliment
or honour that might be paid to him; but he (Sir T. Her-
bert), conceiving that the !engine° attributed to a gentle-
man holding the high position of First Lord of the Admi-
ralty, as having been addressed to a political club, was
most extraordinary, deemed it his duty to put the following
question to the right hon. baronet :—Whether certain
words attributed to him in a speech delivered at a dinner
given in the Reform Club to Admiral Sir C: Napier had
been correctly reported, which appear in the Times of the
Bth day of March, viz., " We, as Reformers, may be proud
that the honour of the British flag in the Euxine and the
Baltic is intrusted to two such champions as Admiral Dun-
des and Sir C. Napier?"
Sir J. GRAHAM—If the hon. and gallant admiral deli-
berately thinks it his duty to pat the question to me with
which he has concluded, and if I am to collect that the
house thinks it becoming to pursue this inquiry further
and to entertain this subject deliberately, I shall not hesi-
tate to answer the question which has been put by the gal-
lant admiral. I believe that the words which he has read
are correctly reported, and I have nothing to retract or
to explain in those words. (Cheers.) I was invited as a
guest to the Reform Club; and it did appear to me that
it was neither improper nor inappropriate to congratulate
the members of that club that two of their oldest
and most distinguished members—(loud cries of "hear,
hear") that two of their oldest and most dis-
tinguished members had been selected for the command of
two such important fleets as the fleet in the Euxine and
the fleet in the North Sea ; and I did say that I, as a Re-
former, certainly with them rejoiced, that two members
of their club had been considered sufficiently trustworthy
and well qualified to be the champions of the British flag
at a moment, and in an emergency like the present. (Hear,
hear.) Again I say that I have nothing to regret or to
retract in respect to that expression. But the hon. and
gallant officer, since he has studied the report of what was
said upon that occasion, should not, I think, in justice to
me, have neglected to notice the comment with which I
prefaced those words; I said that in my opinion politics
were rightly excluded from the naval profession. (Hear,
and cries of "Oh !" from the Opposition.) Ido not be-
lieve that into the selection either of Admiral Dundas or
of Sir C. Napier political considerations entered in the
slightest degree. (Hear, hear.) All I can say is that, in
administering the patronage of the Admiralty to the best
of my judgment, I have conscientiously and invariably en-
deavoured to make that sentiment the rule of my conduct.
(Cheers.)
Sir W. MOLESWORTH—With reference to the obser-
vations which have been made by the hon. member for
Manchester upon my attending the recent dinner at the
Reform Club, I may be permitted to state that I at.
tended there as a member, and a very old member, of
the club. (Hear, hear.) Upon that occasion I was called
upon to propose the health of the Turkish Minister. In so
doing I expressed very briefly what were my views as to
what had been and what ought to be the policy of her Ma-
jesty's Government. I said that they had endeavoured to
the utmost of their power to preserve peace—that their
efforts had been unsuccessful—that the time for vigorous
action had come, and that I hoped success would attend
our arms. In expressing those sentiments lam not aware
that I said anything of which I need be ashamed. Cer-
tainly I said nothing that I should have forborne to express
either in this house or anywhere else, and I may be per-
mitted to add, that I do not think I said anything at all
opposed to any opinion that I have ever entertained. The
hon. member for Manchester has thought proper to accuse
me of some change in my opinions since I have had a seat
upon these (the Treasury) benches. I beg to give to that
charge a flat contradiction. Ido not in any way acknow-
ledge the right of the right hon. member to be my poli-
tical guide or leader, and while I respect his talents, he
will permit me to say of him, that though I think he is an
able man, I at the same time think that he is full of illibe-
ral and narrow-minded prejudices. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. DISRA.ELI—I am inclined to think that this ques-
tion has been met, perhaps, in rather too serious a spirit,
for I cannot help thinking that there are some extenuating
circumstances which might be alleged at the present mo-
ment upon the part of the right hon. gentleman the First
Lord of the Admiralty. It is, perhaps, possible that the
right hon. gentleman may indiscreetly have interfered for
an instant with the exercise of the prerogative, and that
he may have told Sir C. Napier that he was at liberty to
declare war. But it is a matter of considerable notoriety
that Sir C. Napier never obeys orders —(a laugh) ; and,
therefore, taking a charitable view of the matter, I con-
sider that when the right hon. gentleman told Sir C.
Napier that he might declare war, he was quite con-
fident that Sir C. Napier would maintain peace. (Re-
towed laughter.) I think, also, that perhaps too much
has been made by my gallant friend, the admiral, of the
declaration of the right hon. gentleman, that he felt consi-
derable gratification at our two powerful fleets at this me-
hbeing commanded by Reformers. I confess that
I read that
cfaseage myself the first time I felt a slight
shock. It
not for a mail to evince a partisan spirit which I could
tion of thecte moment suppose wouldi pervade the adrninistra-
evelatyti(leaftth! great naval country ; bat,
upon raft
congratulation to the rig
very different character objectionable passage assumed a
h tNhoo doubtn oi tilt() ism :as
thatubje subject greatthose
large fleets which have been sent out under his auspiceswo
are commanded by two d Reformers ; but thee we must recollect, on the hand,otheer that at the present day
sound Reformers mean gentle who do not reform. (A
laugh.) Taking that view of the
question, therefore, I look
upon those two Reformers as two Conservatives, because I
harmless elieve that
animal Refo
sr goinmers at the present
g.lnstead, clay are the most
Instead, therefore of this being
.
a bitter partisan toast on the part of the right hon. gentle-
Man I have come to the conclusion that it is a friendly and
e (Lauehter ) There was another point in
ntleman which I confess did
amicable passag (ht *
rm,ti:eaEndm tpnliarogterwor ittahe. invective which he
the speech of the
Having just been
give me some alarm,
expressed against
,sebethinagt
informed by the noble lord the leadeele-ofpottheouthaetue
wtityhetilletclared, and hay;
we were still in negotiation
RIGHTS OF NEUTRALS.
apprised daily that war Was no
only within a few days been assured by the prime—k-i-nnig.
star that he believed • that war was not inevitable, I did Mr. -
MITCHELL ho ed that the Government would
con- shortly state their intentions as to the course they mean to
shier, I mast say, that an English Minister of the great take with respect to tho neutrals. It was the more in-
talents and position of tho right hon.__gentlemane going to cumbent upon them to do so because the trading and com-
that dinner at a political club, and delivering an invective
mercial classes in this country were naturally most anxious
but further reflectieoenmost
against the Emperor of Russia at that moment, w
on the subject, and because the statement made the other
night by the Secretary of the Treasury appeared to be en-
undignified and indiscreet
vinced me that there was much more discretion in he irreconcileable with the document which had been
righty the noble lord the Secretary for oreign Affairs.
right hon. gentleman, even in that respect, than upon the issued h
te ri ht honmere surface of the question would appear, because I re- A. very large proportion of the mercantile community, he
believed, were making preparations to send goods by land
member that a little more than ay r g
-Zainasto.anothegr Em--
from Russia through Prussia, with a view of avoiding the
gentleman delivered an invective
Well, sir, lam never blockade. Under these circumstances he hoped that an
ror. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.)
ashamed of confessing it when I believe that I have
•been explanaton would be given by the Government.
in error ; and I admit that I, who have not the experienciae Sir C. WOOD said that this was a subject of the greatest
of the right hon. gentleman, or any pretension to h
of importance, and one which called for the most careful con-
statesmanlike qualities, committed the serious blunder sideration of the Government. The subject had occupied
calling the attention of the Hoes, of Commons to that in- the consideration of the Government for some time, and
vectiye, I thought, indeed, that the peace of Europe was they would be prepared at the earliest possible moment
in danger. On tbe contrary, in consequence, I suppose, J consistently with their public duty to state to the house
of the abuse of her Majesty's Ministers, the Emperor of the I and the public the course which they intended to pursue.
Finch has become one of the most trustworthy and one of I Mr. M. GIBSON said he would take the liberty of
the most cordial allies that her Majesty ever yet had. (Hear.) stating that a public declaration having been made in a
Remembering this, therefore, I have no doubt that in the despatch from the Foreign Department of the country to
invective delivered the other day against the Emperor of our consul at Riga upon this subject, he thought it was

Mr. DISRAELI asked whether the Chancellor of the
Exchequer meant to go on with ways and means at that
hour (twelve o'clock) ? He certainly should object.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not
ask the committee to commence then, if it were intended
to oppose the resolutions at every stage. If it was only
intended to debate then he thought they might proceed.
Mr. DISRAELI said no one yet had pretended to give
any opinion of the financial scheme, nor had there been fit
opportunity for its discussion. The house would, he was
sure, be prepared to support her Majesty in the impending
war, but it did not necessarily follow that the particular
form in which the ministerial proposition presented itself
was the form which the house would agree to. It was a
proposal virtually to double the tax, which of late years
had been subject to considerable criticism, and had met
with much opposition, and which had been characterised by
hop. members on the opposite side of the house as unjust,
oppressive, and inquisitorial. He would not contend that
that was a reason why the house should not vote an increase
of the tax when the exigencies of the country required
it ; but it was a reason, when statesmen of such high au-
thority and influence had described this tax in such epi-
thets, why the house should not come to a vote on the
subject without due thought and deliberation. (Hear.)
The reason why hon. members who had formerly charac-
terised the tax as unjust, oppressive, and inquisitorial,
voted in favour of its continuance last year, was that by
so doing they would secure a large measure of Parliamen-
tary reform. The house would recollect that they now had
the income tax without the modification which the late
Government had proposed, and they did not appear to have
much chance of a large measure of Parliamentary reform.
(Hear, hear.) But, with respect to this proposal to double
the income tax, it would first be necessary to consider the
state of the finances and resources of the country before
coming to a final conclusion; and the question which would
be perpetually recurring would be, why was this increase
of the tax demanded, and what was the object of that mys-
terious struzgle in which the country was now about to
engage ? The papers presented to Parliament had not yet
fully explained the state and progress of the question, and
supplementary documents were promised to be laid upon
the table. He thought the better plan would be to postpone
the committee of ways and means until Friday next, when
they would be in a batter position to form an opinion on
the subject. With respect to those additional docu-
ments, he trusted that they would be given in. cxtenso.
In a diplomatic correspondence there might be occasions
when it was right and proper to omit portions of a private
and confidential character; but in a case like this, where
the correspondence was entirely of a confidential character,
no extracts ought to be made, and no portion of it kept
back. You could not have extracts'of confidential corres-
pondence. (Hear.) He hoped, therefore, that her Majesty's
Ministers would bear this in mind, and that the whole of
the correspondence referred to in the Journal of St. Pe-
tersburg, and the whole of the answers referred to in an-
other authoritative print, would be laid upon the table
before the right hon. gentleman the Chancellor of the
Exchequer asked for the important vote on the paper.
The house was about to divide on the motion for going
into committee, but on the suggestion of the Chancellor of
the Exchequer the house went into committee ; anti the re-
solution having been read the Chairman reported progress,
and obtained' leave to sit again on Friday.
The Mutiny Bill was read a third time and passed ; the
Marine Mutiny Bill, as amended, was agreed to ; and the
Exchequer-bills' (1,750,0001.) Bill went through com-
mittee.

Mr. DISRAELI—Sir, I wish to make an inquiry of her
Majesty's Ministers respecting some account of their con.
duct which has recently appeared in two newspapers. One
of these journals is published at St. Petersburg—the other
is published in London. The first journal is called the Jour-
nal of St. Petersburg, and the other journal is the Times.
In a number of the Journal of St. Petersburg recently pub-
lished, there is a statement that about this time last year,
or even at an earlier date, communication took place be-
tween her Majesty's Government and the Government of
Russia, of a very confidential character, in which, accord.
ing to the allegations in the Journal of St. Petersburg, the
most frank and unreserved declaration was made by the
Emperor of Russia of his views present and future with re-
spect to the condition of the Turkish empire. I need not
remind the house that any statement made in the Journal
of St Petersburg is always considered an authoritative and
official statement. Sir, on Saturday last an article appear-
ed—a leading article—in the English newspaper, the
Times, and I believe I have a right to assume that that
also was an authoritative and official statement, because
it referred to circumstances which could be known not only
to men who were Privy Councillors, but only to Privy
Councillors who were Cabinet Ministers. In that leading
article of Saturday last, in the Times, there is a notice of
this statement in the Journal of St. Petersburg, namely,
that in the early part of last year there was a lengthened
correspondence between the Russian Government and her
Majesty's Government, in which frank and unreserved ex-
positions of the sentiments and views of the Emperor of
Russia, with regard to the state of the Turkish empire,
was made. In the Times newspaper the authenticity of
that statement is unequivocally admitted. It is not only
admitted, but allusions are made to public despatches
written by the then Secretary of State for Foreign Af-
fairs, the noble lord opposite, in reply to those commu-
nications from St. Petersburg. More than that. In this
authoritative and official article in the Times newspaper
there is a reference to certain communications upon the
same subject, namely, the condition of the Turkish em-
pj.re, which occurred between her Majesty's Government and
the Emperor of Russia personally during his visit to this
country in the year 1844, connecting these communications
of the year 1844, in similarity of nature and identity of
subject, with the correspondence referred to at the present
moment in the Journal of St. Petersburg. The inquiry
which I wish to make of her Majesty's Government is this
—whether they are prepared to lay upon the table of the
house the correspondence which tookpla.ce at the beginning
of last year, and which does not appear among the papers
which her Majesty has graciously permitted us to see—
this correspondence referred to in the Journal of St. Peters-
burg, and acknowledged in the Times as an authentic cor-
respondence ? Further, I wish to inquire of the noble lord
if he can inform the house whether there we,s in the yea'
1844 any arrangement or understanding between her Ma-
jesty's Government and the Emperor of Russia when he was
in this country—reminding the house that the distinguished
individual who is now Prime Minister of England was then
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs —whether, if there
were such understanding or arrangement, it was reduced
to writing, and if reduced to writing, whether the noble
lord is prepared also to lay that document on the table of
the house, if he be prepared to lay on the table the corms•
pondence to which I have referred. (Hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL—Sir, with respect to the two articles
in the newspapers, to which the right hon. gentleman has
referred, I have to answer, that I saw on Saturday the
article in the Journal of St. Petersburg, to which he has
alluded, containing the allegations which he has stated to
the house. With regard to another article, which he at-
tributes likewise to an official source, I did not see that
article, nor any part of it, until I saw some extracts from
it in a newspaper to-day ; and I did not know, until the
right hon. gentleman just mentioned it, that the article re-
ferred to a memorandum drawn up in 1844.
Mr. DISRAELI—I did not say memorandum.
Lord J. RUSSELL—WeII, then, communication. Sir,
I have given no authority whatever to the Times newspaper
to state what was my conduct when I held the office of
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. Now, with respect
to the circumstances which did occur. It is the usual
practice, I believe—it certainly has been the usual prac-
tice, so long as I have known anything of public affairs—
not to lay before Parliament any communications 'which
take place between her Majesty's ambassadors and mini-
sters abroad, and the Sovereign to whom they are ad-
dressed, nor is it usual, when these conversations aro of
so confidential a nature that they should be laid before
Parliament. Now, it is perfectly true, that in the course
of last year the Emperor of Russia held a confidential com-
munication with Sir Hamilton Seymour with respect to
the affair of Turkey. That communication reached this
country in the shape of a despatch from Sir Hamilton Sey-
mour, and it was my duty as Secretary of State for Fo-
reign affairs to lay before the Cabinet a despatch in answer
to that communication, which despatch was afterwards
forwarded to St. Petersburg. Some further communi-
cations took place with Lord Clarendon and Sir Hamil-
ton Seymour. I have stated what I think is the `usual
practice, and what I think is the just rule on the subject,
that such communications should not be laid before Par-
liament, because it is obvious that if they were laid before
Parliament they might lead to dangerous consequences.
But as the Journal of St. Petersburg, permitted and au-
thorised, no doubt, by the Government of Russia, has al-
luded to these confidential communications, her Majesty's
Government can no longer have any scruple in laying all
the correspondence upon the table of the house. (Cheers.)
I trust that that correspondence will show that, while we
evinced every respect for the Emperor of Russia, we re-
pelled every suggestion which would tend to the dismem-
berment of Turkey. (Cheers.) With respect to the fur-
ther question which the right hon. gentleman asks, namely,
as to the conversation that took place in 1814, it is cer-
tainly true that when the Emperor of Russia was in this
country in that year he held a conversation, I believe,
with the Duke of Wellington, with Sir R. Peel, and with
the Earl of Aberdeen, then Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs. I believe the substance of that conversation was
consigned to a memorandum, and that the late Minister
of Russia in this country (Baron Brunow) was cognisant
of and assented to the correctness of that memorandum. I
am not able to give so positive an answer as to the produc-
tion of that document as I have given to the other question
of the right hon. gentleman. This memorandum lam not
been lately under the view of the members of her Ma.
jesty's Government, and therefore I wish to reserve my
answer on that point. (Hear, hear.) But with respect
to the correspondence to which I before alluded, namely,
the correspondence which took place in the course of last
year, I have no hesitation in laying it upon the table of
the house. (Cheers.)
THE OATHS BILL—THE SETTLEMENT AND
REMOVAL BILL.
Sir F. THESIGER inquired whether the noble lord in-
tended to move the second reading of the Oaths Bill on
Monday, or whether the second reading of the Settlement
Removal Bill would be proceeded with on that day ;. and
if so, on what day the second reading of the Oaths Bill
was likely to be moved ?

THE INSURRECTION IN TURKEY.
Mr. M. MILNES called the attention of the house to
the circumstances of the Greek insurrection in Turkey, and
expressed apprehensions that the most disastrous conse-
quences would follow if it were permitted to be suppressed
with unrestrained cruelty and violence. It was the duty
of this country to endeavour by mediation and every fair
means to put a stop to these calamities, and the appoint.
ment of a British commissioner to watch the contest might
be attended with the best effects. Since we were com-
pelled to mak) war, it should be our object to make even
war the instrument of civilisation, and to advance the
moral and intellectual welfare of the world.
Lord J. RUSSELL—I have no difficulty in saying that
I agree very much in the opinions of my hon. friend who
has addressed the house. I agree with him in thinking that
it is our duty to do all that is in our power to improve
the condition of the Christian subjects of the Porto, and in-
fluencing its conduct as far as we can; for it is impossible not
to assent to what my hon. friend stated in the early part of his
speech, that notwithstanding the most liberal edicts on the
part of the Sultan, and the greatest anxiety on the part
of his Ministers to carry into effect the laws with equal
justice to all his subjects, there are, by means sometimes
of ignorant and corrupt persons, but more frequently by
means of a licentious soldiery, great evils inflicted upon
the subjects of the Sultan, of which neither he nor his
Ministers could approve. The advice that has been at all
times given by Lord Stratford, has tended very much to
mitigate the evil ; and only very lately he advised the Sul-
tan, upon the breaking out of this insurrection, that none
but regular and well-disciplined troops should be employed
for its suppression. My hon. friend is quite right in saying
that part of this insurrection—l believe the greater part—
was owing to the conduct of the soldiery who were sent to
put downinsurrection movements; but, sir, at the same time
we think it our duty to discourage as much as possible these
movements. We cannot think that an insurrection among
the Christian subjects of the Porte would tend to im-
prove their condition, or lead to any other result than to
place them in a far worse and more helpless state of sla-
very than any to which they have hitherto been reduced.
(Hear, hear.) It has been so fully stated by a noble friend
of mine (Lord Shaftesbury) in another place, that I have
no need to prove what would be the effect of these persons,
owing to their insurrection, becoming subject to Russia,
and I certainly shall not go into that part of the question.
Every one knows that the light of the Gospel, which I be-
lieve is permitted by the Sultan and his Ministers to pene-
trate through all classes of Christians who are under his
3w ay, is entirely opposed to insurrections. This insurrec-
tion can tend to no advantage to these tribes; but, on the
contrary, can only divert the forces of the Porte when it
is in jeopardy from a foreign antagonist. Every effort
will be made by her Majesty's Government to induce the
Sultan to improve the condition of all his Christian sub-
jects, and to allow the maxims of justice and equality full
force in all his dominians ; but, on the other hand, we
shall show the disapprobation of the Government of this
country of any insurrectionary movements against the
Sultan. With respect to the papers for which my honour-
dale friend has moved, I believe they are not yet ready at
the Colonial-office; but there will be no difficulty in pro-
ducing them before long. I have nothing further to say,
except that there was an allusion in the honourable gentle-
man's speech which perhaps I ought to notice ; namely,
that we ought not to be a party to any agreement or ar-
rangement for suppressing political movements in Italy.
I say distinctly with regard to Italy what I have just said,
with regard to Greece, that, feeling, as I do, with the peo-
ple of Italy, I do not believe they could take a course more
obstructive of the attainment of the very result which
they desire than that cf rising at the present moment
against the Austrian Government. I believe, on the
contrary, that if they remain tranquil the time will come
when that Government will be not only more humane,
but will concede many more popular privileges than would
be the case if Italy were to rise in insurrection against
the military force of Austria. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. RICH wished to elicit a distinct declaration from
the Government that our interference was not to favour
any dominant race, but on behalf of the whole mass of the
population of European Turkey.
Lord LOVAINE adverted to published evidence of the
maltreatment of the Christian subjects of the Porte, which,
he observed, was the erdinary incident of Turkish rule;
their treatment depending upon the accident of the charac-
ter of the Pasha, whether be was a man of humanity or a
tyrant and oppressor. He scouted the idea of Turkish
toleration, and sought real guarantees for the rights of the
Christians.
Lord D. STUART considered a suggestion thrown out
by Mr. Milnes, that a British commissioner should be sent
to Turkey to induce its Government to act with modera-
tion towards the Greeks, well deserving of attention. The
insurrection was not the result of Turkish persecution; it
had been produced and fomented, if not by the Govern-
ment of Greece, at least by persons belonging to the Greek
kingdom. He believed that Turkey bad, within the last
30 years, made considerable advances in humanity, as well
in civilisation. He had seen in Bulgaria large farms,
well stocked with sheep, and a peasantry well clad, well
fed, and in appearance contented and happy.
Lord C. HAMILTON desired to have a definite answer
from the Government as to the position of this country,
should the Greek insurrection gain head, and an assurance
that our troops would not be employed in putting it down.
He palliated the proceedings of Russia in relation to the
questions at issue, and inveighed against the weakness and
corruption of the Ottoman rule, which had, he said, re-
peatedly embroiled the affairs of the East.
Mr. LAYARD observed it was necessary to inquire into
the origin of the outbreak on the part of the Greek subjects
of Turkey, which he traced to the mission of a Russian
Admiral to Athens by Prince Menschikoff, when he arrived
at Constantinople in the beginning of last year, and to the
intrigues of Russian agents. He described the position of
the Greek races in Turkey and their character ; he
praised the moderation of the Ottoman Government ; he
contrasted its mild despotism with the iron tyranny of the
Czar, and insisted that the object of Russian interference
was to crush the spirit of liberalism and reform which was
spreading, among the population, as well as among the
ruling authorities of Turkey. He related instances of fic-
titious charges of oppression brought against the Turkish
Government, which, he said, where causes of just com-
plaint existed, removed the offending Pasha from his
pashalic. It had been urged that we should enter into a
convention or an understanding with the Porte in respect
to the treatment of its Christian subjects ; but such a step
would justify the very policy of Russia of which we com-
plained.
Mr. E. BALL approved the line of argument taken by
Lord C. Hamilton, and, referring to the favourable por-
traits heretofore drawn of the character of the Emperor of
Russia, expressed his belief that that Sovereign had been
represented of late in an unfair and ungenerous light, and
unlike the man he was. He disclaimed all sympathy with
those who cried out for war, the necessity of which he
denied, and which, he said, would soon cease to be popular.
Lord PALMERSTON said—l hope, sir, that we may be
allowed to proceed with the business which is before us.
(Hear, hear.) I can assure the home, however, as well as
my hon. friend, that nothing can be more at heart with us
than to use every effort in our power to improve the col-
dition of the Christian subjects of the Sultan, and to
endeavour to have them placed upon a footing of equality
with the Mussulman population. But I am sure that it
will feel that it would be very unfitting in us to fall into
the same course as that which has been so decidedly con-
demned in the case of the Emperor of Russia, and that the
endeavours of her Majesty's Government must be tempered
with the consideration of that which is due to the indepen-
dence of another sovereign and of another country. Now,
these changes and reforms have been the object of the
anxious endeavours of the British Government for many
years; and, as stated by my hon. friend (Mr. Layard) whose
personal knowledge and experience enable him to guarantee
the fact—great improvements have already been made. In-
deed, it is only a few days ago that her Majesty's Govern-
ment received a copy of a firman issued by the Sultan, by for the future, a Christian's testimony is to be re-
ceived in all cases, civil as well as criminal, in all the courts
throughout the Ottoman empire. So that a most important
and valuable privilege is thus conferred upon the Chris-
tians; and there is this remarkable circumstance, which
ought not to be entirely lost sight of, that the Christian's
evidence is not received upon oath ; for no such custom as
that of taking evidence upon oath prevails in that country.
So that the testimony of the Christian and the Mussulman
will be upon precisely the same footing. Now, sir, we
have been told that the Turks have inflicted a great Ulna.

COAL MAIL
Prices of Coal per ton at t.
Carr's Hartley
20 6! s. 4.
Cookson's Hartley l9 61Tyne Main lB 0
Hasting's Hartley 2O dtell's Primrose l7
Howard's West Hartley Lambton 21 3
Netherton 20 6,Plummer
Tanfield Moor lB 0, Russell's Hetton 21 "
0
Taufield Moor Butes 18 0 Birchgrove Gr aig ob. 2/ , a,
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Harvey Wylam ..

AID
Brighton
Brighton Club 4
Wolverhampton
Yarmouth 8
Reading
Odiham 9
North Staffordshire 9
Wolverhampton l4

UST.
Egham
York
Hereford
Eccles ...,
Chelmsford
Derby
Plymouth ..
Lincoln
;MBER.
Bedford 19
Leicester 2O
Manchester Autumn 2l
Lanark
Newmarket F 0 26
Northallerton 2B
IBER.
Warwick Autumn l7
Caledonian Hunt 17
Newmarket H 23
Worcester Autumn 31

APPOINTMENT OF MR. STONOR.
Mr. MOORE complaineil of the appointment of Mr.
Stonor to a Judgeship in the colonies, after the report of a
committee of the house, indicating that he had been gulity
of bribery at the elections of Sligo, 1343 and 1852, and
asked the Gavernmant if they were now prepared to cancel
the appointment?

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SEPT]
Warwick
Lichfield
Western Meeting 7
Rochester and Chatham 7
Doncaster 12
Pontefract 18

RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS.

LI, M 13.
STOCK EXCHANGVE.ER PO—TheOL follow were the sales :
Lancaster and Carlisle, new thirds, 12a pm ; Manchester,
Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 214 ; Lancashi re and York'
shire, 661 ; London and North-Western, 1014 ;
land, 603; ditto (Birmingham and Derby), 34; South-
Eastern an
Eastern Dover, 181 York and North Midland, 23i.

Mr: F. PEEL said the guilt of Mr. Stoner did not appear
from the evidence before the committee ; and that it did
not appear to the Government that Mr. Stonor was not
eligible for any appointment under the Crown.
A discussion ensued, in which Mr. Bowyer, Mr. Divett,
Sir E. Filmer, and Mr. Hildyard book part, each explain-
ing his opinions on the subject,
After a few words from Mr. V. SCULLY, the discussion
dropped.

OCT
Chester Autumn 3
Yorkshire Union Hunt 5
Wrexham 5
Newmarket S 0 9

MANCHESTER, MARCH 13.
STOCK EXCHINGE.—There was a firmer market, but
.
buyers held back. The sales were :—Caledonian, 211
Lancashire and Yorkshire, 66i ; Manchester, Sheffield, aPu
Lincolnshire, 21i ; ditto, New 6/. Preference, s pm. ea cbv;
South-Eastern, 18g.

Mr. FREWEN brought inn bill to amend the law for
uniting parishes into districts, and the appointment of
district surveyors of highways over the parishes so united.
The house then adjourned at half-past twelve.

BIRMINGHAM, MARCH 13.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—There was more than an avers/
amount of business transacted on 'Change to-day, and.
prices were well maintained. The sales reported at tlO
close of business were :—Manchester, Sheffield, and De.
colnshire stock, 22 ; Shrewsbury and Birmingham prefe-
rence, N.

ROUEN.—The letters from Rouen mention that the
market for manufactures exhibited a slight improvement,
a favourable change in the weather having stimulated
business.
NEW YORK MONEY MARKET.—The commercial ad.
vices from New York continue to indicate a recovery in
the tone of the stock and money market, although the
recent rise had led to some sales for realisation. As
compared with the corresponding period of last year,
the imports since the Ist of January show an aug-
mentation of only 5 per cent., while the exports have
increased 60 per cent. The supply of specie in the
banks was therefore proportionately larger. The de-
mand for European goods was active, but an erroneous
impression appears to have prevailed for some time
that large quantities would be sent to New York at a
sacrifice from France and England on the commence-
ment of war, and the dealers had neglected to keep
themselves in stock. Under these circumstances in-
creased orders may soon be looked for in our manufac-
turing towns, where a falling off in American purchases
has been noticed during the past month or two. In
that case a moderate resumption of specie arrivals may
also be expected. The present steamer, after some
weeks' cessation of remittances, has brought 32,0001.
BUSINESS OF THE PORT OF LONDON.—In the general
business of the port of London during the past week
there has been considerable activity. The number of
vessels reported inward was 162, being an increase of
22 over the previous week. Of grain there were re-
ported 36,265 quarters, including 22,047 quarters of
wheat ; of flour, 18,529 barrels and 7,539 sacks ; of tea,
49,721 packages ; of sugar, 919 hogsheads, 246 casks,
943 cases, and 32,116 bags ; of coffee, 81 casks and 274
bags ; and of rice, 7,411 bags. The number of ships
cleared outward was 103, being an increase of 23 over the
previous week. Of these, 23 were in ballast, and 12 for
the Australian colonies.
THE NEW FRENCH LOAN.—Transactions took place
yesterday afternoon in the new French Loan at 1 to 11
premium, and at Paris 11 is understood to have been
given. It transpired by telegraph yesterday that, in
virtue of the power reserved by the Government for that
purpose, notice has already been given that no discount
will be allowed to any subscribers of more than I,ooof.
Rentes on prepayment of the instalments. This will
prevent the large dealers from obtaining the anticipated
supply of new stock, and, as many of them are said to
have effected sales of the old Rentes under an impression
that the market would soon be well furnished, it is
thought a rise may result, from the necessity they will
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Lord J. itUSSELf: said the Settlement and Removal
Bill would be taken on Monday ; the Oaths Bill would not
be proceeded with before the 27th.
THE PACKET SERVICE.
Mr. H. HERBERT asked the First Lord of the Admi-
ralty whether it was the intention of the Government to
take any steps for the improvement of the packet service
between Holyhead and Kingstown, in accordance with the
recommendation of the committee of last session on Irish
postal communication?

I - Sir J. GRAHAM said the report had been brought under
the consideration of the Board of Admiralty, and he ;had
to state to the house what he believed he had already stated
on a former occasion—that the packet service throughout
the United Kingdom should no longer be conducted by the
Government itself but by contract; and at this moment
inquiry was making into the subject of the packet service
between England and Ireland. The right hon. gentleman
made some additional remarks relative to the speed of the
packets, but in so low a tone as to be inaudible.
ST. PAUL'S CHURCHYARD.
Mr. HILDYARD said the corporation of London were
now constructing a street which diverged at the south-east
corner of St. Paul's-churchyard, and which would leave a
small angular piece of ground between that street and Can-
non-street. If that piece of ground should remain unbuilt
upon, a fine view would be afforded of the eastern part of
St. Paul's, and an admirable site would be afforded for the
erection of a statute. Perhaps the noble lord might have
a posthumous interest in the question he was about to put