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cipation in the government of the college which rested in
the dean alone; and it must be admitted that for the pur-
poses of the bill the governing body in this instance was an
imperfect instrument. At Zasenose the body was a very
narrow one. The choice now was between retaining the
phrase "governing body," subject to the defects which ac-
companied it in ono or two cases, and discarding it altoge-
ther and adopting some other. He thought it not desirable
to constitute any new governing body for the purposes of
the bill; but the mode he proposed was to make it apply to
two-thirds of the foundation, being also members of convo-
cation, in each college.
Mr. LABOUCHERE was glad to see that the right hon.
gentleman seemed to feel the weight of the objections which
had been urged. He should regret to see the option of ac-
cepting reforms from the commissioners left to such small
bodies as the governing bodies would be in some instances.
He hoped that the Government would reconsider the
clause.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the
-most convenient course would be, as no one was prepared
with exact words for the purpose intended, to consider the
matter between this and the bringing up of the report.
After some further discussion,
Mr. VERNON withdrew his amendment, on the under-
derstanding that the clause would be reconsidered.
Mr. HENLEY moved that the Chairman report progress.
Sir W. HEATHCOTE remarked that towards the end
of the clause, it was provided that if the governing body
of a college should declare in writing that the ordinances
and regulations of the commissioners were prejudicial to
the college, "as a place of learning and education, " the
same should not take effect. Now, it might so happen
that. the ordinances and regulations might be prejudicial
to the college in other respects than as a place of learning
and education. For instance the preamble of the bill re-
cognised the colleges as necessary for the advancement of
religion, and the ordinances and regulations might be de-
trimental to them in a theological point of view. He
should, therefore, move the omission of the words "as a
place of learning and education." (Hear.)
The committee divided, when there appeared :
For the amendment
Against it ...................................... 159
Majority —4B
The clause was then agreed to, and the house having re-
sumed,
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained leave to
sit again this day.
WAYS AND MEANS.

The report of the resolution passed yesterday for increa-
sing the duty on sugar used in breweries was brought up.
aree. DISRAELI complained that no notice had been
given of the nature of this resolution. He understood
that the object was to increase the duty chargeable on
slider used ' in breweres, but on the paper was a bill by
which the use of sugar in breweries was prohibited. This
was an inconsistency which should be explained.
Mr. J. WILSON replied that the explanation had been
given yesterday. The prohibition in the bill referred to
was consequent upon the change in the malt duty, it being
considered that it would not be safe; considering the dif-
ferences between malt and sugar used in brewing, that the
adiantage in favour of sugar would be so great under the
new duty that it would not be safe to allow the practice to
colitinue. Since then, however, the Inland Revenue Com-
Missioners had satisfied themselves that by adopting a
system of licensing by which they would be enabled to
know and have access to the breweries in which sugar was
used, the revenue might be protected, and the object of
the resolution was therefore to increase the duty on
sugar so used to make it equivalent to the increased malt
duty.
The resolution was then agreed to.
COMMON LAW PROCEDURE BILL—MORNING
SITTINGS.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL proposed to fix the com-
mittee on this bill for Monday, in order then to fix it for a
morning sitting on some subsequent day.
Mr. DISRAELI repeated his objections to the practice
of -morning sittings, especially at so early a period of the
session. At the morning sittings the legal members could
not be present, and those who were engaged on committees
up-stairs were necessarily absent, and amongst them were
always some of the most distinguished and the most prac-
tical members of the house. Another objection to morning
sittings was that members came to the duties of the even-
ing sittings with exhausted energies. Never was there a
session when it was so little necessary to sit in the morn-
ing as this. True, Government had brought forward many
important measures, but they had abandoned the greater
number of them,, and the state of public business at the
present moment certainly did not justify that proceeding.
Besides, the session could not be unnecessarily curtailed at
a time like the present. When the country was at war it
was desirable the House of Commons should be sitting to
sustain the Ministry in the event of disaster, and to sym-
pathise with them in the event of success ; or it might
happen that the presence of the House of Commons might
be. useful to counteract any lack of spirit, and to encou-
rage Ministers to prisecute the war with becoming vigour.
(Hear, hear.) For these reasons he must oppose the pro-
position of the Attorney-General for fixing this bill for
a morning sitting, and he hoped the noble lord would not
impose upon him the disagreeable task of opposing the
Government in reference to the conduct of the business of
the house, and that he would fix some later period of the
cession, July or August, for the commencement of the
morning sittings.
Lord J. RUSSELL reminded the right hon. gentleman
that he had not himself followed the practice he recom-
mended, for when he was leader of the House of Commons
in 1852, he commenced the morning sittings on the 31st of
May. (Hear, hear.) No doubt there were inconveniences
in morning sittings, but it was a balance of inconveniences,
and in the month of August, when the right hon. gentle-
man would commence them, a large proportion of mem-
bers, distinguished and undistinguished, were invariably
absent, having left for the session. Now that they had
arrived at the middle of the month of June, he thought it
was desirable, looking at the amount of business still to be
got through, that they should appoint morning sittings,
fele the consideration of some important bills. He should,
therefore, propose that on Thursday se'nnight they should
sit at twelve o'clock for the purpose of considering this
bill. Other bills, including that of the Lord Advocate,
might be considered at morning sittings; as well as the
Mercantile Marine Bills.
- Mr. DISRAELI said when he proposed a morning sit-
ting, at the end of May, it was in consequence of the noble
lord pressing for an early dissolution of Parliament.
(Cheers from the Opposition.) e
Mr. MALINS urged that the bill under discussion ought
to be taken when members of the legal profession were
present. (Hear, hear.) The same observation would ap-
ply to the Mortmain Bill, which could not be properly dis-
cussed without the members of the legal profession.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he had not antici-
pated, from the way in which his bill passed the first and
second reading, that no opposition would be offered to it.
He understood that some of the details were objected to ;
and as these were matters which would hardly interest a
full house late at night, he hoped the members of the legal
profession would for once make a sacrifice, and attend a
morning sitting to discuss the bill.
Col. BLAIR. urged the postponement of one of the bills
fixed for this day—the Valuation (Scotland) at
least that it should not be taken first.
The LORD ADVOCATE could not consent to alter the
arrangement that had been made.
Mr. WALPOLE said it was very natural that Govern-
ment should desire to get to the end of the session, but
when members Were attending there from 12 in the day
till 2 in the morning, it was impossible that they should
be in a condition properly to attend to the business that
came before them. He could declare from his own expe-
rience that this was the case, and he was convinced that if
morning sittings were commenced too early, the business
of legislation would not be so satisfactorily conducted.
Mr. K. SEYMER asked the noble lord to name a day
when the Drainage Bill would be brought on at a morning
sitting.
Lord J. RUSSELL suggested Thursday next ; and the
bill was appointed for that clay.
Mr. CrrAUFURD protested against the Sugar Duties
Bill being proceeded with until hon. members had had
time to examine its provisions.
Mr. V. SCULLY said that much time was lost by hav-
ing a sei.arate set of bills for Seotland, and another for
Ireland. By having the same legislation for the three
countries, a great deal of time would have been saved.
The motion that the Common Law Procedure Bill should
be taken at a morning sitting on Thursday se'nnight was
then agreed to.
The Bills of Exchange (No. 2) Bill was fixed for the
same clay.
Lord J. RUSSELL suggested that, if morning sittings
were adopted, they should not sit so late at night. (Cheers.)
REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The other orders having been postponed,
Mr. DISRAELI moved that the order for the commit-
tal of the Scotch Registration of Births Bill, which was
fixed for the morning sitting of this day should be dis-
charged, for the purpose of being postponed. (Hear, hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said that he was rather surprised at
the motion—(cheers)—because it seemed to be the genet al
opinion of the house that the bill should be discussed to-
morrow morning. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. STIRLING said that several of the Scotch mem-
bers would not be able to attend to-morrow, as they would
be engaged upon an important committee.
The LORD ADVOCATE said it was generally under-
- sitoodeareongst tthe Scotch members that the bill would
come on to-mornow. (Hear, hear.)
Celonel BLATIt said that ho would not object to the
other bills being discussed, but he certainly would object
to the discussion of the Scotch Valuation Bill.
Lord ELCHO said the Valuation Scotland Bill was on
the
mPar.er pAfiotri,la lays as fixed for to-morrow.
Mr. CO WAX hoped the bill would be postponed.
would wish to have the bill delayed for
'iTnavcaraudiratleitirts3..inortder to give sufficient time to consider the
At
the same time, he would not object to
have
morrow. them explained by the learned lord in committee toMr. CR AUFURD • said that the question was not as to
the Valuation Bill but to t
Lord D. STUART disliked Registration Bill. (Hear.)
cud {ray at present, there being sittings, and parti-
gteoneral feeling abroad
that the Government were anxieaus
tikes as soon as possible, lest the sit
get through the ses-
should prove inconvenient to them at this particular
Parliament
aCculart.junc-
ture. (Hear, hear.) At the Same time
sitting hatd
ibeen discussed, antique:Blll:4l
the morning
noble lord) thought, set lei , it was hardly fair in the right
hon. gentleman to re-open the question, and he could not
give him his vote. (Laughter.)
Mr. J. BALL appealed to Sir J.Pakineton, as the
chair-
man of the committee
on the business 'of the house,
to
support the proposal for morning sittings.
Mr. DISRAELI explained that the reason he did not_
divide at an earlier period was because the question then
before the house related to a morning sitting on Thursday
ee'nnight. (Hoar, hear.)
EXCHEQUER disputed
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE
the accuracy of this explanation amidst.the loudly expressed
concurrence of the house.
The house then divided—
Ayes
N 0313

Majority --73
The motion was therefore lost, and the house ordered to
to meet at twelve o'clock to-day.
The house adjourned at twenty minutes to two.

WINE AND SPIRIT LICENCES. —A Parliatnentaryr4e
turn states that in 1850, 1,642 wholesale and 35,4
retail licences were issued in the United Kingdom for
t ie sale of wines, and 3,864 wholesale and 84,406 retail
licences were also issued for the sale of spirits. In
1851 there were issued 1,625 wholesale and 36,216 re-
tail wine licences and 3,945 wholesale and 84,942 retail
spirit licences. In 1852 the number of wine licences
issued was 1,609 wholesale and 37,300 retail wine
.., -st• Ileepees, and 3931 wholesale and 86,492 retail spirit
r- --:! ~t ji2E.rkes, In 1853 wine licences were issued to the num-
O. , 1,652 wholesale and 38455 retail, and spirit
!---'" - - :: Aleenceic,t6 the number of 3,988 wholesale and 87,618
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