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London, England, 1838-07-28 00:00:00

CUSTOMS BILL.

Mr. P. THOMSON moved the further eonsideration of the Report
on the Customs Bit'.

Mr. CHALIVIERS trusted that the Right Hon. Gentleman
wouli postpone the further consideration of this subject till
Monday, as he knew that several Members were absent who were
anxious to take part in the dsscussion.

Mr. P. THOMSON could not conseat to postpone the reinsure.
Sir JAMES GIAHAM wished to put a question to the Chancellor
of t'm Exchequer. The Irish Municipal Bill had come down with
amendments from the House of Lords, and as there could be no doubt
that al; parties were most anxious that those amendments should be
fully discussed, it was desirable that a certain day should be named
for that discussion.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was his inten.
tion to propose that the discussion should take place on Thursday next.
Mr. O'CONNELL objected to what the House of Lords had done
being called amendments—(Laughter)—he considered them only in the
light of alterations.
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET wished to know when it was the
intention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to bring on the Duchy of
Cornwall Bill.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said on Wednesday
next.
Mr. LASCELLES, in reference to the Customs' Bill, wished to call
the attention of the House to certain facts connected with that mea-
sure. In 1834 the Customs Bill contained clauses constituting certain
towns as places for bonding corn ; but in the present Bill those clauses
were omitted.

Mr. BAINE4 and Mr. BROTHERTON strongly supported the proposition
of extending the Bonding system to inland towns, as it would prove a
great benefit to trade.

Mr. ASHTON YATES wished it to be distinctly understood that
those wit') had part mercantile interests did not acquiesce in the pro-
position.

Mr. A. CHAPMAN said it was impossible that bonded warehouses
could be extended to inland places with safety to the revenue.
Mr. POULETT THOMSON said that in the course of the ses-
sion a 'great many petitions had been presented, praying for the
establishment of this system, and he should be prepared next year
to submit a measure on this subject to the consideration of
Parliament, and lie believed that as it was founded on principles of
justice it would receive the sanction of the Legislature. He should
uopose a measure similar to that which he bad introduced before,
and which was complained of as not going far enough,
but which weat as far as prudence would allow. He (Mr. P.
Thomson) was astonished to hear from his Honourable Friend an
argument against the general principles of fairness and justice, founded
on some miserable vested interest, which he alleged to exist in a parti-
cular instance.

Mr. WARBURTO.N said ha particularly objected to the sixth clause
of the Bill, which enacted, that if foreign manufactures, purporting
to be British, were introduced, they might be seized by any
Custom-house officer in any port of the United Kinfdnm, •r
any British possession. ' Now he proposed to amend that clause, first
limiting its i„ ho fi,„„„ht it
would be unwise to let it be executed at the discretion of any petty
Custom.house officer in some small island of the West Indies. And
he should also recommend that the clause should not come into
operation till from and after the month of July, 1839.
He considered the wards, " or in any way purporting to be of British
manufacture," went too far, as they were too indefinite. He was op-
posed to the principle of the clause altogether; but thinking that its
omission might nbt be agreed to, he submitted these amendments to the
consideration of his Right Hon. Friend.
Mr. P. THOMPSON had no objection to some of the amendments,
but he did not think the object of the clause would be answered if the
words " British possessions" were left out. The object of the clause
was a fair one. Complaints were nude that goods of our manufacture
were forged abroad—that they were brought to this country, and from
this country sent to the Colonies, and sold there wilb our mark, by
which not only was our trade diminished, but the cha-
racter of that trade in those articles was seriously injured.
He admitted that it was necessary to take care that while these regula-
tions were enforced no injury should be done to their foreign trade. He
could not therefore agree to c xclude the Er Visit possessions. Much less
inconvenience and injury would result from that course than
from giving the parties a right of action. In his opinion the
authorities and the Custom.house officers in the British Colo-
ides would be perfec:ly able to discharge the duties entrusted
to them and to exercise a sound discretion as to what articles were, and
what articles were not of British manufacture. With respect to the
other amendments lie had no objection to accede to them.

Mr. WARBURTON' thought the clause so objectionable in princi-
ple, that he should persevere in his amendment and divide the House
upon it.

Mr. LABOUCHERE thought the Custom-house racers were
not deserving the observations that had been made against them by
the Hon. Member for Bridport. He thought the House out to hesitate
before it strum' out the words.
Mr. CHALMERS thought the House ought to retain the words pro.
posed to be struck out.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER believed Hon. Members
had more apprehension in retaining these words than they warranted.
He concurred with his Honourable Friend that the proposition if car.
riod into etfect would be the reverse of beneficial.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. The House divided.
when there appeared—

For the Amendment
For the Original Clause 39
Majority

Mr. CHALMERS gavenotice that on the third reading of the Bill
he would move that this clause (6) be omitted.
The clause was agreed to.
The Mediterranean Postage Pill was reported.
On the Report of Committee of Supply,
Mr. C. LUSHINGTON proposed to bring forward the petition from
Scarborough, relating to a notice given by the clergy of that place, re-
specting the registration of baptisms.

The SPEAKER intimated that it could not be done on the Report.
After a slight discussion between Mr. LUSHINGTON and other
Members,
Mr. WARBURTON said, that fotmerly on bringing up the report
of the Committee of Supply, Members were allowed to discuss matters of
grievance, but according to the opinion now given, they would be pre•
cludei from doing so. The Chancellor of the Exchequer gave thesame
information, and the interpretation which he (Mr. Vi'.) put on the
orders was the same as that of the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
The SPEAKER said that the practice of the House on notices of
motion as it now existed was a modern practice. If on every day on
which the House went into Committee of Supply, there were to
be two notices, one on the question of going into Committee, and th•
other on his leaving the chair, there would be great difficu ty in th•
way of proceeding with the public business. If, according to the ancient
practice, the House were to consider the grievances of which the people
complained, and they had any connexion with the question of Supply
there would be no inconvenience. But a new practice had sprung UP'
and he hoped the Home would consider the extent to which the public
business would be obstructed if the practice was departed from.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was quite true
that he said the Hon. Member was at liberty to raise the ques-
tion on the report, and such was his impression at the time. In
order to save his Hon. Friend from any difficulty, he would
observe that he hail been anticipated by the two notices already given•
He would therefore suggest to him to give notice for the first Committee
of Ways and Means.
Mr. LUSHINGTON then gave notice that he would bring the ques-
tion forward on the first occasion when the House went into a Conl-
mittee of Ways and Means.
The report was then brought up, and the several items agreed to.
SHANNON NAVIGATION.

Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN hoped some day would be fixed for the disetlS-
sion of the Shannon Navigation Bill, as many Gentlemen were into"
rested in it.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would fix Tuesday
next, when he hoped all gentlemen interested would attend.
Mr. WARBURTON was satisfied the Bill would never pass duria
the present Session.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in answer t°
a question from Mr. F. French said that it was not the
intention of the Government to give to the Shannon ComWI
the 100,0006. that had been lent to them.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it was
his intention to go into a Committee on the Civil List
Monday, the first thing, for the purpose of taking into cons'
deration the resolutions of the Pension Committee.
Sir DE LACY EVANS moved for a " Return of the number of Peri;
sons, otherwise entitled to be included, but whose names have De.f,,,
omitted by the overseers from the lists of electors of cities, borougtfli.
and cinque ports, in the year 1838, on account of their non-paYloc?ov
poor. rates or assessed taxes; with the amount of rental rcspective
which the persons so omitted have been assessed to the poor-rates."
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the Ho'
se
adjourned at Half-past Three.

It •.
rev teii ai ; Paris that, since the corrintenc.;
went of this winter, not less than seven young ladies of Noble bun Taro,
have eloped. One of them is stated to have gone off with her:cortlCO'

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE.

(PROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.)

PORTSMOUTH, JULY 27.
In Harbour—The Britannia, 120, flag-ship ; Victory, 104, Ordinary
Guard Ship; Edinburgh, 74 ; Herald, 28 ; Royal George yacht ; Pan-
tat_ °°n, 10; Waterwitch, 10 ; the cutters Seaflower and Cracker, and
seiellers Fanny and Gossamer.
tb2,B"in—The Hastings, 74, fitting for the reception of her Majesty,
ueenln
Dzager.
yeR-- ot any vessel in Commissions.
SPithead—The Pique, 36.
rr coals.pique gs, &c. during the Week.—On Saturday the 21st, the
harbo for out of dock. On Monday, the Waterwitch, 10, came in
ur, paying MI to
On 1,,0n Tuesday, the Pique went out of harbour.
vvednesday, the Messenger, steam transport, arrived from the East."4.d.,? and sailed on Thutsday for Plymouth.
We have but little doing here, and scarcely a rumour afloat, save that
a Change in the Admiralty. Should Lord 11Iinto intend to retire,
°be hoped that the long talked of promotion for Masters and
rsers will first appear, as his promotion of the other classes (notwith-
standin
satisfaction
ithe little bickerings to the contrary) has given very general
in this neighbourhood. The new Navy List has at length
aPP
theeared , and as it has been kept back from the Ist instant, to enable
lest
t'IL etniralty to complete their arrangements, fears are entertained I
few",he Poor Masters and Pursers have been forgotten by them. The
ander.in-Chief will strike his flag to.morrow, and proceed on a
°aYs leave of absence. The Herald and Edinburgh will sail in the
- U
lattescl ayelle cf the coming week, the former for the East
10, Indies, and the
or the Mediterranean. The Waterwitch, will be paid off on