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THE STN, LONDON, WEDN-ESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 16, 185 3•
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induced 'them to consent to any part being diverted to instruments, no less than 14 indexes would have to be creed. Therefore nothing could be more natural than that friendly spirit towards the Church of England. No doubt _POLICE INTELLIGENCE. PRICES OF SH R AES.
secular
prepared. He did not pretend to criticise pro Visions a desire should be entertained for a re-adjustment of the the concession that we propose to make does shake the con- I
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pUrposes. - '
The papers moved for were then ordered to be pro'. drawn up by Lord Campbell, but he must be allowed to arrangement made so far back as the year 1840. (Hear.) fidence which is now felt in the perpetuity of. the endow; GUILDHALL.-George Corton was brought before IN BANKS, ASSURANCE, AND OTHER COM 1
duced, with certain exceptions. say that lawyers were not always the beat persons
. There is nothing unreasonable I think in the people of- ment for religious purposes. (Loud cries of "hear, hear, '
Canada desiring that some particular denomination should from the Opposition.) But, regarding ;the Church of Eng- PANIES' STOCK.
THE- MERCANTILE MARINE. to , prepare the machinery for the working of an act,
Some of the ablest lawyers, Lord. Eldon among the num-
have a share of the fund more in accordance with its num- land as a body of individual clergy in that country, we stabbing his father.
Alderman Salomons on a remanded charge of maliciously
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From the Official List,
Lord COLCHESTER referred to the various acts re-
ber , were very stubborn in maintaining what was on the bars. I instance the Presbyterians in connection with have taken ample guarantees for their continued enjoyment
the Church of Scotland, who, I believe have lost of the stipends now allotted to them--(hear, hear-we The following fresh evidence was adduced :-
. Parkinsonsaanidd-lam PUBLISHED EVERY TUESDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING,
luting to the mercantile marine, the complexity and mul-
face of it absurdand
coin- • nonsensical.. It was much better more than one-half of their adherents since 1840. Soon have further the full concurrence of the lslature and the inson,WmLONDON, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 15.
tiplicity of which formed a grievance. which was
to put a small portion of • - motion first the schism in executive of Canada in have
machinery into at rst, after that year,
plained of by the shipping interest. A bill to consolidate andSheffieldaswiwaPrrnehaonlist°emanMr-
them had been prepared by the late Government, and then to add to it or amend it as experience directed, and extended,,however unaccountably, to our North in the bill- which will render it impossible for those clergy the 4thof Feb.,andasked fir clasp or pocket knife.
than to try to b ' ring into operation cumbrous and eaten- American colonies, and I find that the Free Church of to be deprived of their emoluments so long as they live It
I showed him one without a spring at the back to fix the
oPfar,k4;
JOINT-STOCK BANKS.
would have been laid before Parliament by them had it
sive r • • Scotland has now in would h been for *
more followers than the body con- have impossible us to assent to any other Dividend 4 Amount
ovisions all at once T'e hon member thenblade when open, and he asked me then if I had not one
not been for the change of Administration. He now e._..n13 _ . h .
nection with the national Church of Scotland. It is very regulation in the matter. They went out to that country Name of Company. per of Paid. Price.
lained th n
wished to know whether it was the intention of the pre- "Peny.exP e ature of the existing law, and the
natural too, as we think, that other bodies, the Wesleyans in reliance upon the act of Parliament, and good faith and with a spring. I showed hirn one, ancrafter a great deal Annum. Share.
alterations he intended
sent Government to lay before Parliament any consoli. . leave to make and concluded by ask-
for instance, with 100,000 persons belonging to their coin- honour requires that their rights should be pected. But, of bargaining, the prisoner representing that he was in - `
dation and amendment of the laws relating to the mer- mg to bring in a bill.
Mr. HEADLAM cordially seconded the motion munion, should desire to participate to a greater extent looking at the Church of England not as a collection of in- the trade, I let him have it for 10d. instead of ls. The £s.d.£ s. d.
Australasia........... 61. per cent. 40 0 0 40 0 0 82%
produced bythe officer isthe samethat
d d al butknife
candle marine I of than they now appear to do in the advantages of this fund. ivi u clergy,as an establishment-as an incorporatedßritish North American 64. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 -
• Lord STANLEY of Alderley observed, that his right the hon. member, believing that the improvement of the There has also been a desire expressed for the secularise- institution-if you ask us to maintain a church establish- the prisoner. Commercial of London. 61. per cent. 100 0 0 20 0 0 -
hon. friend the President of the Board of Trade intended • law concerning the sale and transfer of real estates was tion of those reserves ; but it does not matter what is the meat in Upper Canada against the wishes ofthe people of Henry Wm. Alexander Coleman said-I am one of the Colonial .............. 31. per cent. 100 0 0 25 0 0 -
On Tuesday next to state the intentions of the Govern. a great national object. It was incorrect to suppose view entertained-be the force or form of public opinion in that country, Ilii7 ?i.e would shrink from such a struggle. house surgeons at Guy's Hospital, Mr. Corton, senior,
oni
iain
Char. i3..oyi: .. 61.1 er cent. ro g g 2:
10
0
T-1%
ment in regard to all subjectS connected with the mei.• that the registration of land would interfere with the that country what it may-there are not any means of (Hear, hear:) you
would were to engage in it, I undertake to was received in the hospital on Friday, the 4th of 4
W issue
London and2o 0 0 -
that you never from itwith
eantilemarine, and he thought that the noble lord- had control of persons over their property-they would be giving a legal and constitutional expression t 3 their senti- say credit or sue- suffering from several stab wounds in different parts of Londn and Westminstr 61. per cent. 100 0020 0 0 364
better not press for any answer to his question until the left precisely as they were, and would not be prevented(Hear, -hear.) lam
ments-there is an insuperable obstacle in the way. That cess..
ht , .
tconyencee, sir, that we are taking the body. He -had been bleeding very much. The London Joint Stock ... 61. per cent. 50 0 0 10 0 0 20
obstacle is the act of 1840, and the _ . object of this bill will the rig course even in he interests of the Church of E - 0 25 0 0
Provincial of Ireland.. 8/. por cent. 100 0
En wounds were situated, one in the nose, one in the collar
whole matter was laid before Parliament. entailing or mortgaging their estates. The main object lb li if Ditto. N ew... .. .. .. 81. per cent. IQ 0 0 10 o o -
qhe to remove that bar. Now, lam anxious, sir, to explain land herself. e eve that Church has to encounter a
The house then adjourned at a uarter to 8 o'clock. of the hon. member was to give a good and undoubted, bone, one in the chest over the sixth rib and near the
precisely the object of this bill. We do not b it in spirit of antagonism and. jealousy, aroused by a feeling of National of Ireland.... 41. per cent. 50 0 0 22 10 0 -
Y.
title to property, the individual in whose name it was any way to alter the present condition of things. We leave undue partiality and favour shown to her, she is weighted breast bone, one in the thumb of the right hand, one in Nat. Provincial of Eng. 61. per cent, 100 0 0 35 0 0 -
' . HOUSE OF COMMON registered having the sole right to dispose of it without the different denominations in that colony, not certainly with a burden which no endowment can possibly counter- the ring finger of the left hand, one on the forearm, near
01intloall;laenvk.6---. 811.1"1"..e8n1,t. 20 0 00 1`: 0 0. -4_
regard to any settlements or deeds that might be in upon ehe same footing as that on which they have hitherto balance. , (Hear, hear.) The Church of England, I doubt the elbow, and one on the back part of the thigh. The South AustraliaerP.e.T. 6/. P.
cct .p. .& be.. 25 0 0 25 0 0 45
The SPEAKER took the chair at a few minutes to four existence. He trusted that some measure based on the stood, but , in the same relation which they have hitherto not, will win its way in that country as it has done in the wound on the chest was about a quarter of an inch deep, Unicki of Australia.. • • 61. p. et. & bs.s 25 0 0 V, 0 0 71
o'clock. bill of the hon. member would soon become the law borne to each other. All that we propose to do is to vest United Stat_esa- Not assuming that it is deprived of the and the rest were merely superficial, but not dangerous, Ditto ........... ... 6/. per cent. - 210 0 -
Several private bills were brought up, and read a first of the land. . in the Legislature of Canada the power, if they think fit to existing madeprovision for it out •of the public funds, it unless from unfavourable circumstances inflammation Union of :ft. London ........ 71. per cent. 50 0 0 10 0 0 18
time, will derive its strength, not fro
Mr. HUME did not think a permissive bill would be exercise it, of altering that arrangement. I think it preci-
lie, . • na the libere•litY of the pub- ensued. Mr. Corton was discharged this morning, Madrid ' • - 40 0040 0 0
RAILWAY AMALGAMATION: con- but, as it has done elsewhere, f
of such use as one affecting the whole property in the Pitate to anticipate that these clergy reserves. will, in d t .
_f
the.
from the purity of its having been ten days in the hospital. INSURANCE COMPANIES. •
Mr. CARDWELL •
moved that no railwa bill or country. Bills of a permissive nature seldom, inconcession, be ofnecessity alienated from oc nnes rom e soundness
sequence of this
of the prisoner, said--I
which are illust
canal bill containing any ewers of Igyamatio his opinion conferred any great amount of wood. He religious purposes, and secularised by the Legislature of Ca- virtues ) rated in the lives of its clergy. Dividend Amount
I beg am a locksmith and bellhanger, and reside at 10, Great Name of
Company,
per Paid. Price.
' - - nada. There are in that colony people
who think, as I do, (Cheers. Sir,
bill to ask the permission of the house to
lease, working arrangement, or a - ' readily
gement, or other combination Of Y admitted that the hon, member's bill containedperhaps even more than in an old introducethe of which I have given notice.
Winchester-street. The prisoner is my son, and is oc- Annum. Share.
interest bet that in a new country, casionally employed by me. On the 4th f February
, between different companies, be read a second some very excellent provisions. Of all the burdens upon • •t hpublic Sir J. PAKINGTON said it
one, it is of the greatest importance o have a pro- s not his intention to x s. d. X s. d.
he was in my shop. I was in the backyard, and heard Amon
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time before the 14th day of March next, unless the land, the greatest was the delay and expense of trans- • •on applicable to the payment of stipends to ministers of moose the present motion wa
, and therefore it would not be 3/. 10s. 500 0 0 50 0 0 86
the boy Salter crying out. I went down to the cellar, Alliance Brit. and F.o;:. 71.148. 6d. bs. 100 0 0 11 0 0 25%
parties interested elect to proceed with the same b y ferring land, and it was astonishing that such abuses reli . It •nl h have • 'on of that kind es s f •
gum. is o yw en you a provisi or him to folio
striking out all clauses having reference to amalgamation should have been allowed to exist in an intelligent that yon can secure the presence of clergy-men and the mi- necessarY
t length. He had heard
w the previous speaker at any which is my workshop, to see what had taken place Ditto urine....... 61. p.c.& b. 100 0 0 25 0 0 53
knock-' Anchor .............. 6 per cent. 5 0 0 1 0 0 -
or combination. He said the committee on railways had country like this. (Hear.) nistrations of public worship in every community, how- grea . that gentleman's speech with and then ascertained that the prisoner had been Atlas
138.6 d. 50 0 0 510 0 21
found that they had no alternative but to require that some The motion was then agreed to, and the bill was sub- ever poor, however remote they may be from the seat of regret, but certainly not with surprise, seeing that itonly • him about and th • his the fire. I told , e
ing
limited delay should take place before these bills were sequently brought in. , Government. And, sir, we ought not to forget that thee
clergy and the laity of the Church of England, and the embodied sentiments Which since the opening of the pro- the prisoner to walk out of the place, and that I did not British Commercial .. 7s. 64 50
sent session had been already want him there, At first ho said he would not go for elericl.Med.& Gen. Life spr ct. 00ao . o 7
& be. 100 0 0 10 0 0 2014
expressed by the noble lord
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read a second time, and they had fixed upon the 14th CLERGY RESERVES (CANADA) BILL. other denominations in that colony who are interested in ,insisted on 41. 100 0010 0 0 120
day of March as a period that would occasion the sins!- Mr. F. PEEL---Sir, I rise to ask for leave to introduce a the • t ce of this fund as • bl. to li •
apphca e re gicrus the' member. for London, as the or of the Govern- me. I afterwards got him up stairs, and crown ......
..., 14. 5000 500 174
en struck Eagle
lest possible amount of inconvenience to the promoters bill which shall Canada to main
enftnb
• - ment in that house.
all empower the legislature of peirposes, constitute yno means an inconsiderable mine- He (S• j Pakington) looked upon his going away. He said he would not, and then . ••.. 58. 50 0050 0 7%
hbrtl, Equity and La...... 4m
i. Per cent. 100 0 0 5 0 0 1%
of bills, exercise a control over the provisions at present regulating rity in that country. There is a very just remark made t. he bill now sought to be (Sir J.
introduced as a means of commit- me with his fist in the face. He went out, and's
e European Life........,
bchof th back and concealed himself in the cellar. Iles. 20 0 0 All paid. -
In answer to a question,by . Lord Elgin, in one of his dispatches, where he says tmg a rea e national faith, and of depriving the after came General • . - 50 0 5%
the arrangement of the clergy reserves in that province,
Mr. CARDWELL said the motion did not applv to that there is this evil attendant on the present arrange- Protestants of Canada of property with which they had been gave him in charge for the assault, and the complainant Glebe ••• • .... 61. per cent. Stock. If
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PP and I trust that the house will bear in mind how impor- ment, that "those in communion with the churches peen- most solen;_nly,_endowed. (Hear, hear.) The hon. mover was dismissed at the station, and I was advised by the 0 unrdlan ~ .......... 51,per cent 100 0 0 45 0 0 61
bills simply introduced for making branches.
Mr. JAS. M`GREGOR expressed.his entire concurrence bent this question is, and how great an. interest the people liarly benefited. by this fund, instead oft rying to influence admitted that in the recent elections in Upper Canada, the inspector .to take out a summons against the prisoner. Imperial
e Fire... .. .. .. .. 121, per cent. 500 0 0 50 0 0 310
with the motion of the right hon. gentleman. So ex- in that province take in it, if, in doing my best to put the public mind of the colony, are continually lOolrii3ngatoe ttstrrect.nly affected by this bill, the party who wished All this occurred about 11 o'clock in the morning ; and Indemnity Marine::: 11,X.&s
*s. 2: 0 0 I,g 0 0 198%
tensive and complicated were railway affairs, that the house in possession of the precise nature of this bill, I the opinion of the mother country, and
.content t
shelter under the shadow of an act of Parliament, while, if gained several seats, and that the gains had taken place.
back. He asked me if I intended to take out a sum- Lawillined••• ••-es • -- 100 0010 o 0 50
nothing short of imperial legislation could put them on trespass for some little time on its attention. The clergy left to themselves, there may bo very good ground to an- among tho largest -
facts
in the province. These General Life - 50 0 0 20 0 5%
a satisfactory footing, either as regarded the proprietors reserves constitute a fund of no inconsiderable magnitude ticipate that they will be - able to make their opinions were importantmons against him, and on my saying yes, he became '
London Fire ....
,in addition to which it should be ios & bs. 25 0 0 12 10 0 284
or the public. He hoped the committee who had been -they take their origin from a period as far back as the shared in by others." Why, I see it stated that, at the borne'in mind that even previous to that election the re- very saucy. I attempted to push him out, and then he London hip. -.
10s. & bare 100
0 0 12 10 0 284
entrusted by the house to inquire into railway legislatioin year 1791. At that time the province of Canada was divided last general election in the colony, in the month of Decem- presentatives of Upper -Canada were equally divided o the
stabbed me on the nose and in various parts of my body, marine ..... ••..• • .. 15s.per share 100 0 0 lb 0 0 20
generally would be enabled to make some useful sugges. into t . . . ber, 1851, they put forth their strength, and succeeded in question. (Hear, hear.) Thew Hon. - n • but Icouldnot see what instrument he used. My son
emtrlvaavli.e.&Gen.Life 041. per et. 50 0 0 2 0 0 3
two parts •; in the place of the single councilof Govern- Under-Secretary, in• •••• . •
lions on that important subject. carrying no less than nine elections, displacing from the alluding to the oman Catholicendowments of Lower William came to my assistance, and while he was hold- Monarch .... .... ~ _
5 0 0 1 0 0 21s
PETITIONS, ment which then legislated for the whole province, there Legislature some of those who took a most prominent and Canada, had • 1
said they were secured at the conquest. True, ing the prisoner I heard him call to me to take the knife Na ional Loan l. per cent. 20 0 0 210 0 V .
Mr. L. KING presented a petition from R adi ' e ng in were substituted. two representative legislatures, one for active part in advocating the secularisation of these re- they were, and the guarantees then given had been rigidly from the hand. I did not do so, and I was
m e prisoner's Palladium Lite Tuna 5l. per cent. 50 0 0 2 0 0 BA'
Pelican -
favour of the transmission of Parliamentary papers to each province ; and in the act known as the Constitutional serves ; and, therefore, lam not altogether without hope respected. And why, then, should not the guarantee, quite soon after taken to the surgeon's, and from thence to phoenix • . , - - 45
literary societies. Act, which made that alteration in the constitution of that the party which is at present interested in the exist- as solemn, given in 1840 by the British Parliament, be the h • 1 Several hours elapsed between the first Professional Life 5l. per cent. 6-5
0 ' - 173
ospita .0 10 0 %
The Marquis of BLANDFORD presented several Canada, it was provided that whenever the Crown disposed ing appropriation of this fund may possibly be able to bend looked upon as of equal 9 He should
the Colonial Legislature into taldng that direction which until he saw the b. value . wait, however,
ill, and what means were taken to pro- disturbance .and the last. les 'aeons Ltfe .... ..
• Rock Life..........., 55.0 oto 0 8
petitions from Ireland, against any interference with the of its waste lands, one-seventh in value of the lands which they consider that the well-being of the count requires. tect the interest ry s .of the Church, which must be ample The magistrate announced his intention of sending Royal Exchange ..... • 61. p.ct. & bs. sto2k. all 235
Sun tire ...... 6/. 10a.
• rights of the Established Church in the colonies. were disposed of should be reserved for the benefit of the But, be that as it may, I contend that the subject is solely indeed to escape the Charge of a flagrant breach of faith. the case before a jury.
Mr. -
BLACKETT presented a petition -from New- Protestant clergy. Now, that
_proportion of the value and exclusively Cheers) the consideration of the slices!Conial i Before he sat down he would implore the noble lord, the --- Ditto Life ll. 6.. -
55
" United Kingdom .... 41. p. ct. &be 20 0 0 4 0
castle, against the post-horse duty, of the waste lands disposed of continued to be reserved Legislature. ( It is not an imperial, but member for London, to look at the act of Dm, of which he MA.RYLEBONE.-Al arse Anne Griffin, aged 22,
Universal Life .• •
per
0 45
by
Lord D. STUART presented a petition from the me- f concern. That is the ground that we occupy in bringing himself was . the him with •
_author. Let recollect the peculiar was charged having murdered her male infant, Victoria Life - 412 6 6%
or a period. of fifty years; but in the year 1840 an forward and advocating the adoption a this bill. we circumstances under which that act was passed, and how c tti its throat. The risoner, who was evidently
tropolis, praying for the interference of the Government u ng BRIDGES.
act - was passed which put an end to any further reser- say that in bringing it forward we are Carrying out the all the statesmen of the day concurred in its adoption. ItPallowed to sit during the
to obtain the liberation of Edward Murray.in a very weak condition was
then laid re• Having lately lost her father, she was attired Dividend Amount
Me. BRIGHT presented a petition from Wiltshire in nations of land for that purpose. In the course of Principle which has &Tided our policy towards that coup.- was down and admitted that before attempting a inqui---•
. It is a liberal but at the same time union of the
, ,
in , two provinces all questions of religion should in black, and when told what the charge against her was, Name of Company. per of Paid. Price.
favour of the ocean penny postage. years I need not say that a very great quantity of land had tarsll of
believe, years
e a just and well-founded, confidence the be settled-a poi t towhich the late Duke of Wallin on Annum. , Share.
Sir J. PECHELL presented a petition from the fie- been reserved. A great portion of it no doubt had been d ' d the loyalty f the inhabitants f that particularly- n '
goo sense an e o e o at coma alluded in his memorable protest. Let the
-on as it appeared on the police-sheet, she burst into tears,
quenters of the Market at Arundel, Surrey, in favour of sold, and at the present time the clergy reserves consist in try, which has prompted us to extend to them an almost noble lord recollect the words of the preamble to his bill. and buried her face in her hands. £ s. d. £ s. d.
some measure to greater accuracy in the returns of the part of land and in part of money, of investments in the unlimited measure of power of self-government. They declaring the expediency of finally settling the question of Frances M'Claughrey, on being sworn, said-I am liangerford
Southwark .......... - - 12
100 0 0 - _
average price of corn. funds of this country and of Canada, which have arisen have now a Legislature, the popular branch of 'which is the clergy reserves, and their appropriation to the main- Gloucester-place,
nursemaid .at W. Hart's, Esq., 7,
.Ditto New of 7% p.c. 705. per- cent, 50 0 0 - 16
Mr. G. TURNER presented a petition from Liver- from the saleand di • 'landswhich " • all
des of - 100 0 0 -3%
pool against the duty on soap. may choose. They vote their own civil list • they have all men, was not bound to respect the rights of the Church and slept with the cook. On the 27th of January, in Ditto Old Ann. offs!. 2/. Bs. Od. - 60 0 0 244
were reserved for this purpose The manner in which this executive control the land fund and the disposition f of England ' .
over e, oin Canada. Tirith these observations he should the morning, I had been doing needlework with pri-
vaptrailiw ditto of 71. 2/. 2s. Od. 4O 0 0 eese
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented 200 petitions from f is is this. . 21. 70 10 3 - 21
fend appropriated lts revenue is applied to the its proceeds. Even within late years we have made
•consent to the passing of the present stage of the bill. goner in•hee room, and at one o'clock I left her to go
letter-carriers throughout the country, complaining of • •
the order, of the Postmaster-General.th • prohibiting their payment of stipends to ministers of different religious de- direction-we have Mr• V
other great concessions in the same •V. SMITH complained that the right hon. gentle- down to dinner. I asked her to cones, down. She was
WATER-WORKS.
surrendered to the colony the management of the customs man had acted rather unconstitutionally in quoting the then in my master's bedroom, andshe said she would be
receiving Christmas boxes, and of the smallness and in- nominations. It is not the case that these denomma • tions
department-we have discontinued imperial duties, and opinions of any portion of the people of Canada against the Dividend Amount
adequacy of their salary, and praying for redress. participate in that fund in proportion to their relative since the repeal f the navigation laws have ' dregularly Assembly ofthat
o we remove constituted - down in a minute. She, however, did not make her ap- Name of Company, per of raid. Price.
Captain SCOBELL presented similar petitions. numbers, or to the strength of each, because it will be every restriction upon their trade with ourselves, our other -seeing he was member for Droitwich-he had acted still her
during the meal. When I went up again to Annum. Share.
and asked
her bedroom I saw her standing by the fire,
found that, notwithstanding the change which took place colonies, and with foreign countries. We have gone even more strangely in, relying on the comparative populousness
REAL PROPERTY AND PROBATE DUTY. her why she had not come down, to which she replied £ s. Q. £ s. d.
in the year 1840, the Established
Churches of England and a step further, and given them what they consider a re- of a constituency as a guage of its political value. He East London - 124%
Mr. WILLIAMS gave notice of a motion for this spoasible Government. Until the other day, their execu- (Mr. V: Smith) hoped that when the question of Parlia- that she was not well. I left her and went to Mr. Grand Junction .... • • 41. per cnt. 50 0 0 - 69
day •
fortnight, for rendering real property liable to the of Scotland derived by far the greatest advantage from the should have Hart's room, and at alater period
tire was nominated by ourselves, and the principles of its mentary Reform came on for discussion, they - 84%
robate and legacy duties, existence of this fund. I will read an extract from a de- policy were the principles of the Administration at home ; the valuable co-operation of the right hod. gentleman. again. I asked her how she was, and she said that she Lambeth .......... „
New River Company., - 100 0 0 - , -
p 21.108. - 60
ELECTION PETITIONS. spatch of Lord Elgin, accompanying what is known aB a but now they have an executive whose policy follows the (Cheers, and laughter.) To say that an Act of Parliament should be better soon ; she was then sitting in a Southwark &V Vauxhall 51, per cnt. 100 0 0 - 90
Mr, L. KING gave notice that on an early da hy e blue book in the year 1851, showing how the clergy policy favoured by the majority in the House of Assembly. was irreversible, was to saddle his noble friend below him ch • I beside her, and in few she got
air. sat - - 111).
would move ell, then, I cannot see why you should make any distinc- with a new finality, besides which the right hon. gentle-
the appointment of a select committee to reserves were appropriated in that year. I find that in vy up and went to a Chest of drawers, against which she
inquire into the grounds for the withrawal of election the year 1851 the clChurch of England in the
ergy of the tion with regard to this particular description of property ; man completely invaded the rights of the Canadians to seemed ready to faint. I led her to the
stoodand - - -
petitions. (Hear, hear.) two • nor why you should not place at their disposal this portion legislate forthemselves. The act of 1840 had procured 10
provinces received a sum of about 12,000/. The of the public lands of the province. I see in a pamphlet of years of tranquillity, but now he believed that the people bedside, and heard a noise which seemed to come from Dividend Amount
SEIZURE OF THE NOVELLO, population professing that religion amounted altogether Archdeacon Bethune that in respect to the claim of the Co- of Canada were in favour of the secularisation of the re- • • eat Name of Compan .
the prisoner a box ; it was like a gurgling in the thr y
Annum.e Share.
of raid. Price.
Lord R. GROSVENOR of a child. I said to the prisoner, " What's that noise ?"
gave notice that, on Thurs- to just about a quarter of a million. The Church of lonial Legislature to have the disposition of their lands, he serves, and his that the greatof
opinion
was
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day, he -wo and the answer she made me was "Oh I it's only my Z s. d. X s. Q.
would move the appointment of a select corn- Scotland. received a aura of 6,500/ , ha 'n' population states that ' these lands were bought with the money of the self-government demanded that the question should be left
mittee to inquire into the seizure of the ship Novell°. -9' - -
of 61,000 souls. ' .
The other Churches which received East and West India.. 64/. pr cent. Stock. - -
LETTER-CARRIERS. to the Indians for having taken their land from them." He Sir R. INGLISnot like his •h h • •and Istill heard the noise coming from
was, - next room, - _
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that, on the 3d of March, from thisfund
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creed. Therefore nothing, Gould be more natural than that
a desire should be entertained for a re-adjustment of the
arrangement made so far back as the year 1840. (Hear.)
There is nothing unreasonable I think in the people of
Canada desiring that some particular denomination should
have a share of the fund more in accordance with its num-
bers. I instance the Presbyterians in connection with
the Church of Scotland, who, I believe, have lost
more than one-half of their adherents since 1840. Soon
after that year, the schism took place in that Church
and extended„ however unaccountably, to our North
American colonies, and I find that the Free Church of
Scotland has now more followers than the body in con-
nection with the national Church of Scotland. It is very
natural too, as we think, that other bodies, the Wesleyan
for instance, with 100,000 persons belonging to their com-
munion, should desire to participate to a greater extent
than they now appear to do in the advantages of this fund.
There has also been a desire expressed for the secularisa-
tion of these reserves ' • but it does not matter what is the
view entertained—be the force or form of public opinion in
that country what it may—there are not any means of
giving a legal and constitutional expression t 3 their senti-
ments—there is an insuperable obstacle in the way. That
obstacle is the act of 1840, and the object of this bill will
be to remove that bar. Now, lam anxious, sir, to explain
precisely the object of this bill. We do not intend by it in
any way to alter the present condition of things. We leave
the different denominations in that colony, not certainly
upon the same footing as that on which they have hitherto
stood, but ,in the same relation which they have hitherto
borne to each other. .All that we propose to do is to vest
in the Legislature of Canada the power, if they think fit to
exercise it, of altering that arrangement. I think it preci-
pitate to anticipate that these clergy reserves will, in con-
sequence of this concession, be of necessity alienated from
religious purposes, and secularised by the Legislature of Ca-
nada. There are in that colony people who think, as I do,
that in a new country, perhaps even more than in an old
one, it is of the greatest importance to have a public pro-
vision applicable to the payment of stipends to ministers of
religion. It is only when you have a provision of that kind
that you can secure the presence of clergymen and the mi-
nistrations of public worship in every community, how-
ever poor, however remote they may be from the seat of
Government. And, sir, we ought not to forget that the:
clergy and the laity of the Church of England, and the
other denominations in that colony who are interested in
the maintenance of this fund as applicable to religious
purposes, constitute by no means an inconsiderable mino-
rity in that country. There is a very just remark made
by. Lord Elgin, in one of his dispatches, where he says
that there is this evil attendant on the present arrange-
ment, that "those in communion with the churches pecu-
liarly benefited by this fund, instead of trying to influence
the public mind of the colony, are continually looking to
the opinion of the mother country, and content to take
shelter under the shadow of an act of Parliament, while, if
left to themselves, there may be very good ground to an-
ticipate that they will be able to make their opinions
shared in by others." Why, I see it stated that, at the
last general election in the colony, in the mouth of Decem-
ber, 1851, they put forth their strength, and succeeded in
carrying no less than nine elections, displacing from the
Legislature some of those who took a most prominent and
active part in advocating the secularisation of these re-
serves ; and, therefore, I am not altogether without hope
that the party which is at present interested in the exist-
ing apprepriation of this fund may possibly be able to bend
the Colonial Legislature into taking that direction which
they consider that the well-being of the country requires.
But, be that as it may, I contend that the subject is solely
and exclusively ono for the consideration of the Colonial
Legislature. (Cheers.) It is not an imperial, but a local
concern. That i€ the ground that we occupy in bringing
forward and advocating the adoption of this bill. We
say that in bringing it forward we are carrying out the
principle which has guided our policy towards that coun-
try of late years. It is a liberal, but, at the same time,
as I believe, a just and well-founded, confidence in the
good sense and the loyalty of the inhabitants of that coun-
try, which has prompted us to extend to them an almost
unlimited measure of power of self-government. They
have now a Legislature, the popular branch of which is
freely chosen by themselves upon any-electoral basis they
may choose. They vote their own civil list ; they have
executive control over the land fund, and the disposition of
its proceeds. Even within late years we have made
other great concessions in the same direction—we have
surrendered to the colony the management of the customs
department—we have discontinued imperial duties, and
since the repeal of the navigation laws we have removed
every restriction upon their trade with ourselves, our other
colonies, and with foreign countries. We have gone even
a step further, and given them what they consider a re-
spoasible Government. Until the other day, their execu-
tive was nominated by ourselves, and the principles of its
policy were the principles of the Administration at home ;
but now they have an executive whose policy follows the
policy favoured by the majority in the House of Assembly.
Well, then, I cannot see why you should make any distinc-
tion with regard to this particular description of property ;
nor why you should not place at their disposal this portion
of the public lands of the province. I see in a pamphlet of
Archdeacon Bethune that in respect to the claim of the Co-
lonial Legislaturei to have the disposition of their lands, he
states that these lands were bought with the money of the
British Treasury, and that we still pay salaries and pensions
to the Indians for having taken their land from them." He
refers, I suppose, to the 13,0001. which is paid every year
in pensions to the Indians ; but then that is paid, not
in respect of land taken from those Indians, but in respect
of services rendered to us by them in war. Now if that
be the Legislature, and this the executive—if that Legisla-
ture represents so large a population,-and has such impor-
tanthanoqse
and varied functions vested in it, I am sure that this
representations.will be do se d payr great) attentioniowio
wt o
standsits wishes
question in this point of view? I need not go to an earlier
period than the month of June, 1850. At that time the
House of Assembly passed several resolutions, and an ad-
dress to her Majesty, praying that the power which we
now propose to confer on them might bo granted. Lord
Grey, who was then Minister for the Colonies, told them
in a dispatch in the month of January, 1851, in answer to
that address and those resolutions, that he regretted that
the agitation had been revived on this question—that he
had hoped that the act of 1840 had permanently disposed
of it ; but as it was the wish of the Le,gislature of Upper
Canada to deal with this question, that he, regarding it
entirely as one of local concern, was prepared to recom-
mend the introduction into the Imperial Parliament of the
requisite measure. When that dispatch was received in
Canada. I find that both houses, not only the House of
hArtievarjeesmiCi s e
well, puthaisnsceadtthiao:nldrsathemseseyeshyaociarit.ehceaLnkiovresddtoafrrhoemeyr
Assembly which had voted the address, but the Legisla-
yoniunfsoctri le
rt.ha
announced to Lord Elgin that, in consequence of
the extreme pressure of business in that ses-
sion (1851), he had found it impossible Ito introduce
the measure ; but he undertook to bring it forward
early in the session of 1852. I need not say that
we had not far gone in that session when Lord
Grey and his colleagues retired from office, Lord Grey was
suceeeded in the colonial department by the right honour-
able gentleman whom I see opposite (Sir J. Pakington).
That right honourable gentleman, I have no doubt, gave all
the consideration to this subject which its importance de-
manded of him ; but he came to the conclusion that he
could not advise the introduction of the measure which Lord
Grey had undertaken to bring in in the course of that ses-
sion. I now come to the resolutions which were passed by
the Legislature of Canada so late as the month of Novem-
ber (as we understood) on the receipt of the intelligence
sent by the right hon. gentleman opposite. In December,
1851, there was a new Parliament, and the right hon. gentle-
man stated among other reasonsfor postponing the measure,
that since the addresses were passed by the Canadian Legis-
lature there had been an appeal to the country, and he un-
derstood that the laity and clergy of the Church of England
had succeeded in carrying several of the elections. (Sir J.
Pakington was here understood to dissent.) The right hon.
gentleman understood that there had been a change in the
opinions of the House of Assembly, and he would wait to
hear the result of a reference being made to them. He stated
in a dispatch of April 22, " I have in the first place taken
into consideration the circumstance that since any opinion
on this difficult subject was expressed by the Legislature of
Canada, 'a general election has taken place in the province,
and it is as yet uncertain what the views of the new House
of Assembly as to the disposal of the c lerey reserves
may be." Now; sir,
there cannot now be any doubt as
to what the views of the present Assembly are. They
have passed the resolution in strong terms remonstrat-
ing against the decision of the Colonial Minister ; and
the material point to observe is, that this resolution was
brought forward upon the motion of Mr. Hincks, the head
you have
of, the Government in that country. Therefore.
in the year 1850 the House Yythe L • -
,Assembl in 1851 egis
dative Council, and in 185.; the Administration of tho
on the
country all concurring in pressing this motion
right hon.
gen-
know that the
adoption of Parliament. I
tleman has said, "that the divisions which
carried the re-
solutions do not express fairly the opinion of the country,
a Canadi an
because you must bear in mind that this is not .
question—that the great bulk of this property is pp
er
majority of
which show a •
Canada, and that the divisions, w
the Roman
thirty or forty on the question, include
it seems but fair, in a
Catho-
lic members of Lower Canada ; and
exclusively concern art upper
question which solely and .
from taking pin those
province that they should rafram
1 from e rht hon.
divisions." Now, I differ here ent
I think the Catholic members had a
Roman
gentleman.
just claim to take part in these divisions, because you must
remember this material point, that there
has been no pro-
position for the secularisation of this fund since
cthe year
onsider-
-1840, or if there has been it has received very int
votes. Now all tha the Ro-
able support—three or four
or
, h
n t ese resolutions
man Catholic members do in suppo
ought to be loft to be
is to say that they think these fun
..dsas it deems fit, and that
dealt with by the local Parliament endowment in -Upper
they wish to put the Protestantfooting as their own endow-
Canada on precisely the same
Now that is all the Roman
went in the lower province• sh
the house that the
ill ovr
Catholics seek to do ; and I w
tholic clergy. in Lower Canada
endowment of the Roman Ca
1 Legislature if it thinks pro-
may be dealt with by the loco
f the caitulation of Quebec the
per to do so. By the terms o
secured in their accustomed
Roman Catholic clergy
wereh
s of their own communion.
tithes and dues from the menateer
rms of capitulation remain in
I believe as a general
rule tolled that if these terms are to con-
force in a general peace,
al course is to embody them in
tinue to be respected the usu
Now I find that an act was
some legislative enactment..t tis called—in which this pro-
passed—the Quebec Act,
as
lore perfect security and ease
vision was made, "For them
of
this
province,
it is here-
of the minds of the inhabitantßsubje professing th© roll-
by declared that his Majesty's sub
have hold, and enjoy tho
gion of the Church of Rome
of
that utiurch, subject to the
free exercise of the religion
liat the clergy of the said Church
king's supremacy;
and that
their accustomed rights, tithes,
may have, hold, and enjoy
such ertgons only as profess the
and. dues now payable by_s
roe.p
" If that was the only act
religion of the Church of $o
me
the Roman Catholic Church,
endowments of the
affecting the recisely the same position as
they would be placed m Protestant Church now stood, and
endowments of the Prot()
in lithe Colonial Legislature to alter
there would be no powerconstitutional act of 1791 this very
them; but in the verylio we now wish to adopt for these
provision was made which
The 35th clause;.after the decla-
Protestant endowments. " Be it enacted that
ad to, says,
ration that I have referred
m,
and continue to be of full
the said declaration shall remainofthe said two provinces of Upper
force
and
effect
in
each
-cla respectivelY, except in so far as
Canada and Lower Cline.
art thereof, shall be expressly
the said declaration, or wiry)
acts which may be passed by the
varied or repealed by
"th House of Assembly. of the said
Legislative Uo
um°. and
r which may be assented to by her
provinces respectively .o
successors,
under the restrictions
Majesty or any of her
Therefore you see that the Roman
hereinafter provided.
f tithes and dues, which those of the
Catholic endowment o
are now bound to pay to the
Catholics persuasion t
any
time be abrogated by an
Roman
clergy of that church, may .
and inasmuch as all that we
'Filature
act cif the Colonial Legi
top lace the Protestant endowment in
propose now to
do is precisely the same footing, I cannot see
Upper Canada on
etholic members of the local Legislature
why the Roman b cause they took part in a decision
should be objected to
hear.) Upon these grounds,
upon 'this subject- Cht
te auce this bill. On the part of
then, I beg leave to in To imnight
in
ill
any
un.
the vvesument I digolsom 11.4 WV

Canada, it was provided that whenever the Crown disposed
of its waste lands, one-seventh in value of the lands which
were disposed of should be reserved for the benefit of the
Protestant clergy. Now, that
_proportion of the value
of the waste lands disposed of continued to be reserved
for a period of fifty years; but in the year 1840 an
act was passed which put an end to any further reser-
vations of land for that purpose. In the course of
years I need not say that a very great quantity of land had
been reserved. A great portion of it no doubt had been
sold, and at the present time the clergy reserves consist in
part of land and in part of money, of investments in the
funds of this country and of Canada, which have arisen
from the sale and disposition of lands which originally
were reserved for this purpose. The manner in which this
fund is appropriated is this. Its revenue is applied to the
payment of stipends to ministers of different religious de-
nominations. It is not the case that these denominations
participate in that fund in proportion to their relative
numbers, or to the strength of each, because it will be
found that, notwithstanding the change which took place
in the year 1840, the Established Churches of England and
of Scotland derived by far the greatest advantage from the
existence of this fund. I will read an extract from a de-
spatch of Lord Elgin, accompanying what is known as a
blue book in the year 1851, showing how the clergy
reserves were appropriated in that year. I find that in
the year 1851 the clergy of the Church of England in the
two provinces received a sum of about 12,0001. The
population professing that religion amounted altogether
to just about a quarter of a million. The Church of
Scotland received a sum of 6,5001., having a population
of 61,000 souls. . The other Churches which received
money from this fund were the United Synod of Pres-
byterians in Upper Canada, 464/. ; the Roman Catholic
Church, 1,369/. ; and the Wesleyan Methodists of Upper
Canada, 6391. Now, 'pen what authority is this distri-
bution made ? It is made on the authOrity of an Act of
Parliament passed in the year 1840; and as the circum-
stances which preceded and led to the passing of that act
are considered to exercise a very important bearing on the
conclusions which ought to be arrived at in the present day,
I will give the house a very short summary of those cir-
cumstances. The great bulk of the clergy reserves are
placed in the province of Upper Canada. In consequence
of a term used in the Constitutional Actr of 1791—the term
Protestant clergy—the Church of England advanced and
succeeded in establishing, dew a to the year 1840, an ex-
clusive claim to the advantages of this fund. Now the
majority. of the population of Upper Canada profess a reli-
gion which was not the religion of the Church of England;
and therefore it is not surprising that the monopoly of that
Church gave rise to considerable jealousy and agitation in
the Legislature of Upper Canada. And you will find that
from the year 1823, or so, when the reserves began to be of
value and began to be'sold, down to the year 1840, there
were continual proceedings in the House of Assembly and
Legislature of Upper Canada ; and you will find motions,
addresses, resolutions, and bills passing through the House
of Assembly, at one time urging the admission of other
denominations into a participation in the advantages of
this religious endowment ; at other times proposing that
they should be applied to secular purposes. Well, the Le-
gislative Council of that legislature never concurred in the
views of the House of Assembly. The two branches of the
legislature were permanently at variance with each other—
they could not be brought to acquiesce even in any compro-
mise of the question ; and in the year 1835 the Legislative
Council, despairing of coming to any terms with the House
of Assembly, proposed that the whole subject should be
referred to this country, and that the Imperial Parliament
should put an end to the difference between them. Now it
is important to notice the words in which Lord Glenelg,
at that time Colonial Minister, answered that application
in the year 1835. [The honourable gentleman then pro-
ceeded to read an extract from Lord Glenelg's dispatch,
which appeared among the Parliamentary papers of the
year, 1840, No. 205, which (as nearly as we could catch)
was as follows :—" The chief practical difficulty is whether
his Majesty should be advised to recommend to Parliament
the assumption by Parliament itself of the office of deciding
on the future appropriation of these lands. There are two
distinct reasons, both of which appear to me conclusively
to forbid that course of proceeding—first of all, that Par-
liamentary legislation on any subject of exclusively inter-
nal concern in any British colony possessed of a represent-
tive assemby is, as a general rule, unconstitutional:'] The
honourable gentleman continued :—Lord Glenelg gave an-
other reason, which was that the Constitutional Act of
1791 had purposely left this subject to be dealt with by the
local legislature of the province. That was the impression
which prevailed at that time, and down to the year 1840,
and which, as I shall show, turned out to be an erroneous
construction of the act of 1791. Well, the legislature of
Canada, thus prompted by the Colonial Minister to dis-
pose of the question, again entered upon its discussion.
I find that between the years 1835 and 1839 bills again
passed through the House of Assembly to which the
Legislative Council refused to assent, but in the year
1839 both houses concurred in a measure investing those
lands, free from any conditions, I believe in the Crown,
or, at all events, referring this question to be dealt
with by the Imperial Parliament. Now, at that time,
the noble lord, now the leader of this house, was Colo-
nial Minister; and this was the language in which he re-
plied to that proposal. He said (as near as we could follow
the reading of the extracts), " I cannot admit that there
exists in this country greater facilities than in Upper Ca-
nada for the adjustment of this controversy. On the con-
trary, the provincial legislature will bring to the conside-
ration of it an extent of accurate information, as to the
wants and the general opinions of society in that country,
in which the Imperial Parliament would be unavoidably
deficient." Thus you see that a second time the Colonial
Minister refused to advise the British Parliament to deal
with this question, and referred it as one proper to be dealt
with by the local legislature. Well, upon this second invi-
tation, I find that the two houses did succeed in agreeing
to a measure, and passed—l believe mainly owing to the
tact and Parliamentary management of Lord Sydenham,
then Governor-General—a bill, which was carried by the
Legislative Council by a narrow majority in the House of
Assembly ; brit I must say it was a bill giving the Church
of England much more favourable terms than could have
been expected when you remember the previous acts of the
House of Assembly on the subject. That bill came home
to this country, and, according to the constitutional provi-
sion, was laid on the table of this and the other house of
Parliament for thirty days prior to her Majesty's pleasure
being signified with respect to it. An objection was taken
by the Bishop of Exeter that the Legislature of Upper
Canada had exceeded its powers in dealing with this ques-
tion—that the Constitutional Act of 1791 gave it no power
at all, except such as was prospective only. That question
was referred to the judges, and they reported upon it in
these words (as we understood them)—" We are all of opi-
nion that the effect of the 41st section of the act of 1791 is
prospective, and that the powers thereby vested in the Le-
gislative Council and the House of Assembly and their pro-
visions cannot extend to the waste lands already appro-
priated." Nothing, therefore, remained but to introduce
a bill into Parliament, embodying the principles and de-
tails of the bill which had passed through the House of
Ausenibly and Legislative Council of Canada, at the invi-
tation of the Government of this country. That bill was
accordingly brought in, but at a period in the history of
Canada when it was of the utmost importance that there
should be as little division and as great unanimity as possi-
ble in the Imperial Parliament with regard to all measures
passing affecting Canada, and, therefore; before the bill so
introduced left this house, in order to conciliate opposition
in the House of Lords, it underwent very considerable mo-
dificaction ; and as it was finally passed it certainly dif-
fered very materially from that bill to which the Legisla-
ture of Upper Canada had given its assent, and made a
trovision very much more favourable to the Church of
P2,hg.land and of Scotland, than even that Legislature
had sanctioned, Well, it was hoped, at that
time, that the act of 1840 might be regarded ,
as having finally disposed of this troublesome question.
I myself think it would have been better to have
anticipated what has now occurred ; that we might have
foreseen that differences of opinion based onprinciple could
not possibly be prevented from bursting out merely by
being kept down by the weight of an act of Parliament.
Nevertheless, no such provision was inserted in the bill ;
and I need not say that no colonial Legislature has any
power to alter the provision of an act 'of Parliament.
Now, just see what is the state of things in Canada. Since
1840, 12 years have now passed by. Events have been
crowded in that period in a new country which might
have occupied an age in any old one. I find that the popu-
lation has more than doubled since the year 1840. You find
the religious denominations shifting about—now this one
getting ahead, now another falling into the rear, just as
eilligratiou )nought au accession to thi4 or that Puti"lgs

M A.RYLEBONE. ary Anne Griffin, aged 22,
was charged with having murdered her male infant, by
cutting its throat. The prisoner, who was evidently
in a very weak condition, was allowed to sit during the
inquiry. Having lately lost her father, she was attired
in black, and when told what the charge against her was,
as it appeared on the police-sheet, she burst into tears,
and buried her face in her hands.
Frances M'Claughrey, on being sworn, said—l am
nursemaid • at W. Hart's, Esq., 7, Gloucester-place,
Hyde-park-gardens. Prisoner was in the same service,
and slept with the cook. On the 27th of January, in
the morning, I had been doing needlework with pri-
soner in her room, and at one o'clock I left her to go
down to dinner. I asked her to conie down. She was
then in my master's bedroom, and she said she would be
down in a minute. She, however, did not make her ap-
pearance during the meal. When I went up again to
her bedroom I saw her standing by the fire, and asked
her why she had not come down, to which she replied
that she was not well. I left her and went to Mr.
Hart's room, and at a later period I went to prisoner
again. I asked her how she was, and she said that she
should be better soon ; she was then sitting in a
chair. I sat beside her, and in a few minutes she got
up and went to a Chest of drawers, against which she
stood and seemed ready to faint. I led her to the
bedside, and heard a noise which seemed to come from
the prisoner's box ; it was like a gurgling in the throat
of a child. I said to the prisoner, " What's that noise ?"
and the answer she made me was, " Oh it's only my
inside." She got up from the bed and went into the
next room, and I still heard the same noise coming from
the box. I went down for the lady's maid, who came
up with me directly, and we both went into the priso-
ner's room. The noise I have spoken of continued, and
the lady's maid asked for the key of the box. Prisoner
gave it to her, and on her opening it, I saw an infant
wrapped up in two petticoats. There were also several
towels ; and upon the whole of the articles I have named
there was a considerable quantity of blood. The lady's
maid asked her what she had been doing, and she told
her that she had miscarried. She (the lady's maid) took
the child out of the box, when its head fell back, and
then I saw that it was bleeding from a wound in the
throat. The lady's maid screamed, and instantly the
prisoner seized hold of a pair of scissors, with which she
attempted to stab herself in the neck. We took the
scissors from her, and I went down to my mistress. A.
doctor was sent for. On the following Monday the pri-
soner and the baby were conveyed to the Paddington
workhouse. Behind the prisoner's box I found another
pair of scissors, upon which were marks of brood.
It was stated that the child lived until Thursday last,
notwithstanding the serious nature of the wound.
The prisoner, who had nothing to say, was remanded.

Sir R. INGLIS was, not like his right hon. friend, in-
clined to wait for future stages of the bill, seeing that the
that
tctihe re
principle haedaeaurlreehadeyfebreeetnheclmeawrlayeaenneeounencaehdlie.
gTthheey knew Can-
adian Legislature to deal not with a religious principle, but
with property, the property of the clergy. The word
"clergy" was one of plain signification as regarded the
disposal
the
thatwas house.
(A laugh.) The learned Solicitor-Generall who sluhism
"
most of
ignorantreserves,
and
Radical and
member not b e
emisunderstoodf
b
bering on the Treasmy bench, could tell_colleagues
that the word meant clergy of the Established Church.
(No, no.) Being of /that opinion, and hostile to the
alienation of their property, he hoped he should receive
general support in opposing the present stage of the bill.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that if parliamentary grants
were to be irrevocable, then was the act of 1840 an unjusti-
fiable interference with the act of 1791. But the right hon.
gentleman, the member for Droitwich, went further, and
had laid down in a dispatch that if the irrevocable act of
1840 was notfound satisfactory, it should be superseded by
another irrevocable act in 1853. The question was not one
as to whether endowments made by parliament should last
for ever, but whether parliament should adopt the rule that
all questions of local concern should be left to the local par-
liament of Canada. (Cheers.) Now, on that question her
Majesty's Government had no doubt whatever. (Cheers.)
They thought that they ought to allow the Canadian par-
liament to legislate on'this and every other local subject.
(Hear, hear.) For his own part he should be glad if the
parliament of Canada were contented with the settlement
of 1840, which was considered satisfactory at the time, and
which even now he thought might as well be loft undis-
turbed. The Canadian Parliament might find that in dis-
turbing the settlement they were opening up new grounds
of animosity ; but, however that might be, ha did not think
they were justified in opposing the will of the local Parlia-
ment, who seemed determined to deal with this subject.
Look at the history of our legislation in Canadian affairs.
He could not think that Parliament made a wise provi-
sion in 1791 in dividing the two provinces. (Hear, hear.)
By that measure the free commerce of the two provinces
was prevented, and the differences of race, of religion, and
of prejudices, engendered such conflicts between the two
Parliaments, that Earl Bathurst was obliged to take the re-
venues of the.colony, and distribute them without reference
to other legislation. The union, however, had remedied
many of these evils of a former time. Both parties had
yielded up obstacles to their mutual prosperity, and since
then Canada had made more rapid progress, not only than
any of our own colonies, but than any part, of the United.
States, They had exerted themselves harmoniously, be-
cause they felt that they had been dealt with honestly by
the Imperial Parliament, and he trusted that the present
bill would bo an additional proof to them that such mode
of dealing was to be persevered in. (Cheers.)
Mr. HUME begged to thank the Government for the
course they had taken in reference to this question. They
were by this measure about to complete that system of self-
government which alone could secure permanent peace and
tranquillity to Canada, and to insure the continuance of
that prosperity which, as the noble lord had truly said,
commenced from the hour when responsible government
Was first conceded to that important colony. (Hear, hear.)
He begged also to thank the hon. gentleman the Under
Secretary for the Colonies (Mr. F. Peel) for the candour he
had displayed in the very able speech with which he had
introduced the motion. (Hear, hoar.) The hon. gentle-
man might be assured that the sentiments he had expressd
in that speech would be received with great satisfaction by
the people of Canada, as the enunciation by the minister of
the Crown of principles under which alone the colony
would continue to prosper, and which he (Mr. Hume)
trusted would be speedily extended to all our colonies.
(Hear.) He hoped his hon. friend the member for Oxford
University (Sir R. Inglis) would divide against the motion
as he had intimated, in order that the feeling of the house
might be at once ascertained on that which was the main
principle of the bill—that of allowing the people of Canada
to deal as they pleased, with this question of clergy re-
serves, and with which he for one had no ddubt that when
they had the power they would so deal as to produce peace
and contentment,to all parties in the colony.
The motion was then put and agreed to, Sir R. INGLIR
declining to divide, but contenting himself with meeting
the question with a formal "No."

Mr. T. DITNCOlVliEsaid that, on the 3d of March,
he would call the attention of the house to the grievances
of the letter-carriers, and move a resolution to the effect
that their complaints of inadequate remuneration merited
the serious consideration of the Government.
Mr. COLLIER said that on Thursday, the Ist of
March, he would move for a select committee to inquire
whether the Ecclesiastical 'and Admiralty Courts might
not be advantageously abolished, and their jurisdic-
' lion in some cases transferred to other tribunals.

CANALS.
Names of r !Dividend 1,4,,
Companies. Names of Dividend
per
d
Companies. Pi per ti Annum. "cc.
(a Annum.
Ashtn& Oldh 98 7/. p. ct. 140 Macclesfield. 100 21. 10s. 50
Barnsley • • • • 160 Meath • • •• • • 100 161.
itrknk&Abrg 150 51. 82% Oxford. • • • •• 100 1111. 182
Birmingham 40 41. 105 U Peak Forest. 18, Si. igg. 70
Coveutry••• • 100 25/. Regent's • • • • 33 11. Os. 17
Derby • • • • • 100 61. 63 Rochdale .. • • 55 21. 42,
Ensmre&Chs 69 2% p. ct. 35% Semrset Coal 150
GrandJunctn 100 31. pr.ct. 60% Do.LkFd St 12
Do., 6 pr. Ct. 10 61. pr. et. 12 Stirrd &Wore 140 281. 405
Grand Surrey 100 W. 10s. Shrewsbury.. 125
:;rand Union 100 11.10 s. 24 Stoarbridge.. 145 1" 190
Kennt & Avii 39 6s. Od. 7% Severs and"
Lancaster . 100 Wye Rail. ( 26 31. Os. 24
Leeds& Livrp 100 231. 550 Warwick&
[Jokester 100 51. 66 Birming. j 100 41. 40
Leicstr&Nth 83 41. 44% Warwick& 100 31. 28
Loughboregh 142 701. 510 liaptOn...s
Ifonmonthsh 100 Worcstr & 78 21
%intgemrysh 100 -- Birming..s
MeltnMwbry 100 Wilts &Brits —108.0 d. 7i.

‘PLACARDS AGAINST THE MILITIA.
Mr. HINDLEY gave notice that on a future day he
would ask the Secretary of State for the Home Depart-
ment whether the Government intended to proceed with
the prosecutions which had been commenced against cer-
tain parties for distributing placards in reference to the
Militia Bill.