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doBtrdative prhiolpio to the polithui etma6ter a? tha
Aliuletrs who resoliad to it to enliet the service 3 of

mercenary troops. (Hear.) The Guards were sent to
Malta in February ; war was declared in March ; and
yet it was not till August that they resolved to embody
the Irish militia. Why should they go to war even be-
fore they embodied the English militia The noble lord
the member for Tiverton said, if they passed the bill he
hardly knew where they should get men. What was that
but an insult to those who had friends and relatives now

suffering for us in the Crimea. (Hear.) There were
11,000 or 12,000 constabulary in Ireland in the altered
circumstances of that country, those men were engaged
in fishing— those men were trained men, they were
men who were an honour to their country, and by far
the largest portion of those men were ready and
willing to go out to the Crimea. (Hear, hear.) The
public opinion of the groat English people was against
this bill by instinct, for they had had no time to con-
sider it, for this bill was introduced into Parliament
almost by stealth ; it was hurried through the Upper
House after a debate in which logic, reason, and elO
quence were all on one side. (Hear.) The Government
spoke of appealing to " the enthusiasm of Germany."
(Hear, and a laugh.) He liked a sympathetic friend,
but he liked him to show his sympathy by
acts, not by words. (Hear.) He liked an alliance with
France, because he could understand that alliance ; but

a more impotent argument never was addressed to a
deliberative assembly than to talk of appealing to the
sympathy or the enthusiasm of the small German
sates. (Hear, hear.)

NEW MEMBER.
Lord EBRINGTON here appeared at the bar, and
having advanced to the table, took the oaths and his
seat for the borough of Marylebune.
Mr. S. HERBERT then resumed the debate, and
said the hon. gentleman who last addressed the house,
had grossly perverted his arguments for the purposes of
debate. That hon. gentleman had said he bad
listened to a debate in the other house en
this bill, in which logic, reason, and eloquence
were all on one side. He (Mr:Sidney Herbert)
considered the speech of the hon. gentleman was an aPt
illustration that logic and reason may be often divorced
from acknowledged eloquence. (Hear, hear.) The
bon. gentleman would not believe in the enthusiasm of
Germany ; but the Governments of those small German
States, of which the hon. gentleman spoke contemp- .
tuously, had recorded their opinions that the objects for
which the Western Powers were now fighting were just
and honourable. (Hear.) When the hon. gentleman
said he wished to see our German friends prove their
friendship by acts, not words, he (Mr. S. Herbert) re-
plied, this bill would give them the opportunity of
proving their friendship by acts. (Hear.) The
member for Staffordshire asked last night whY
should we not get a Canadian or a Colonial legion I Ile
(Mr. S. Herbert) said, "by all means ;" let them try
and do so, bur- it was the duty of a Government carry-
ing on a great war to neglect no measures for enabling
them to do so. (Hear.) It was not very encouraging
to Ministers who were bringing forward measures with
hunesty of purpose to be subjected to such unfair treat-
ment. (Hear.) He did not blame hon. gentlemen op.
posite for expressing their opinions freely against
this bill ; but he did complain of the habitual misrep9e-
sentation to which the measures of Government were
subjected. (Hear.) The hon. member said Government
must bow to public opinion. He (Mr. S. Herbert) knew
they must ; and he did not hesitate to submit to the
public opinion of this country on this bill, and he believed
when they saw the result of this bill they would al)'
prove of it. (Hear.)
Mr. NAPIER deprecated the charge of misrepresen-
tation made against the hon. and learned gentleman
(Mr. Whiteside) to whose speech he had listened with
pleasure and pride. He (Mr. Napier) said this bill was en
odious bill and was repugnant to the feelings of the peso'
pie of this country. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. COBDEN said though he believed the historian
would have to record the expedition to the Crimea al
the rashest ever undertaken by this country—and that,
was saying a great deal—still as we hadsent an army of
30,000 men from home we were bound to support that
army. (Hear.) But he believed the army would not re'
gard it as a compliment that we wanted to send out to
their assistance, not their own countrymen, but men'
cenary Germans. The newspapers were careful to tell
us that the enthusiasm for the war throughout the
country was universal ; but the fact was proved to be
otherwise by the large deficiency still existing in the
number of men voted by Parliament. (Hear, hear.)
The Secretary at 'War spoke of intercepting German
emigrants passing through this country for the
United States ; but this appeared to be a
most puerile argument, for it was notorious that the
vast majority of those German emigrants were men ad-
vanced in life, with their wives and families, and fre-
quently taking out with them their own clergyman and
their own doctor ; and were those the men likely to go
out to Sebastopol. (Hear, hear.) There was no
counfry in the world, except the United States, in which
it would be so difficult to establish a footing as in
Russia. He had said at a public meeting in 1849, that
if Russia were to attack England or the United States,
or any other large maritime power, she would be crum-
pled up in her own dreary dominions ; and had that
not occurred I (Hear, hear.) Had not the navy of
Russia been rendered perfectly useless by the nail
of England and France ; but to attack Russia on land
required something more than we ever yet dreamed of.
He should not now enter further into the general ques-
tion of the war ; but on the bringing up of the report he
should take leave to offer some general remarks on the
prospects of the war. (Hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said whenever the hon. member
brought forward that question the Government would
be prepared to discuss it with him. In the meantime
he was astonished that the hon. member and several
other hon. members should make such a misrepresen-
tation as that the only assistance Government proposed
to send out to the army in the Crimea was a foreign
legion, whereas it was well known that in the last
three months they had sent out 11,500 men.
(Hear, hear.) He regretted that every attempt
had been made to degrade the character of mon
who might with every sense of honour be prepared
to enlist in our service. (Hear, hear.) He would not
enter more fully into the question now, but would only
repeat what he said last night, that thin bill was only
the first of a series of measures which the Goverement
intended to bring in for the prosecution cf the war ;
and he was sure that when the people of England
became aware of the true scope of those measures
they would perceive how much they had been misled 14
the speeches of hon. members who opposed this bill.
(Hear, hear.)
Lord C.. HAMILTON complained that the Govern-
ment had called hon, members at this unusual season
of the year from all parts of the united empire to deli'
berate on measures affecting the war, and when they
had assembled to find such a measure as this bill
proposed to them to enlist the services of a foreign
legion. (Hear, hear.) He would place no reliance
on the enthusiasm of Germany in this cause, of which the
Secretary at War spoke so confidently ; and he believed
the public opinion and enthusiasm of this country had
not yet been fairly tested.
Mr. DIGBY SEYMOUR said he was one of those who
voted for the Government motion last night in order not
to impede their measures, and because it was one of the
measures for reinforcing our gallant army. The hon.
gentleman then went at length into the means of
Russia, and contended that her resources were failing.
It had been said by a great French writer that
a great war was a war of budgets—a war to see who
could hold out the longest, and the best way to cripple
Russia was to destroy her commerce. The house, per'
haps, was not aware that all the munitions of war--•
the powder, the cannon balls—all came down the PI
and the Volga to the sea of Azoff, and were conveyed
by land to Sebastopol. When the question of the war
again occupied the attention of the house he should heYe
a few words to address to it on the resources of Russia'
Mr. PHILLIPS, like the hon. member just sat dolt'',
had supported the second reading of this bill, but unlike
him, he voted for it according to his opinion of its merit9f
and in the belief that it was an expedient measure.
Mr. ALCOCK believed that the standard had not been
sufficiently reduced, nor was the bounty large enough, sod
for that reason he should oppose the house going into
committee. The hon. member then advocated the takine
of Anapa, because the Russians were ther) and could
not get out, and was proceeding to. enforce his views/
but owing to interruption, he resumed his seat.
Adl WA LCOTT could not allow this bill to pass withon
entering hie protest against it, regretting its introduction.
He thought the bill was a blot upon the English nation.
If the house trusted to merceparies, instead of the bone
and sinew of the courage of the British nation, the most
disastrous results would ensue.
Mr. SCOTT said, that having been unable to catch
the Speaker's eye, he should take another opportnnitY
of enforcing his views.
Mr. CONOLLY opposed the bill, and was addressing
the house when the Speaker said the time had arrived
when the debate must be adjourned.
The debate was then adjourned till to-morrow.
THE MISSING ARCTIC EXPEDITION.
Sir T. ACLAND then moved for copies of all de-
spatches from the commanding officers of the various
ships employed in the Arctic Seas in the search for Sir
John Franklin ; and of the reports of Dr. Rae, in respect
to the relics of the missing expedition ; and, of any
orders that may have been given, with the view of ob-
taining further intelligence of the fate of that expedi-
tion.

Sir J. GRAHAM said he had no objection to grant-
ing this return, but he begged to be understood
that he could be no party to another arctic expedition.
NEW WRIT FOR NORWICH..

A new writ was ordered to be issued for Norwich is
the room of S. M. Peto, Esq., who, since his election,
had accepted the office of steward of her Majestys
manor of Northcote.
The house then adjourned.

EIRTES.
OF A SON.
At Houghton Recto; y, th 3 wife of the Boy. E.
A. Peck.

OF A DAUGHTER.
On the 19th inst., at 5 , Russell-svare, the wife of J.
3
T. Clarke, Egg.

DIED.
On the 30th ult., at Scutari, from a wound received in
action at Inkerrnan, Lieut.-Col. John George Champion,
nt,
95th Regt. eldest son of the late Major J. C. Champon,
21st N. B. 'Fusiliers, aged 31.
On the 28th. ult., in camp before Sebastopol, Lieutena
Donald G. C. Maclachlan, Royal Artillery, eldest son 01
Dr. Maclachlan, Physician, Royal Hospital, Chelsea.

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