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London, England, 1854-07-07 00:00:00

UNIVERSITY OF OXFORD BILL.

Their lordships then went into committee upon this
bill ; Lord REDESDALE in the chair.

Lord CANNING moved the postponement of the
preamble.

- The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said it was very
necessary to postpone it, for unless the bill was mate-
rially altered it would be entirely inconsistent with the
preamble. The preamble recited that the measure was
one for the " advancement of religion ;" but the bill so
far from promoting religion, contained some provisions
which might be considered to have an opposite effect.
(Hear, hear, from the Earl of Derby.) If the bill were
not very much amended, he should certainly move the
omission of these words in the preamble. (Hear.)
The preamble was then postponed.
On clause 1,

The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH moved the inser-
tion of the Earl of Harrowby's name in the first portion
of the clause, the object of which was to give precedence
to the noble earl over the rest of the commissioners.
The amendment was agreed to.
[LEFT SITTING.]

HOUSE OF COMIONS--(THIS EVENING.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lords' amendment to the Rannow Reclamation
Bill and the Traethbach Bridge and Road Bill were con-
sidered and agreed to.
On the motion that the Lords' amendments to the
Middlesex Industrial Schools Bill be considered and
agreed to,

Lord D. STUART moved that the consideration of
the amendments be postponed until this day three months.
He made that motion because the Lords' had struck
out of the bill the provisions which it originally
contained for enabling offenders to obtain religious in-
struction, notwithstanding that they dissented from the
Established Church. Offenders "of all denominations
were entitled to the consolations of their own religious
teachers, and it was nothing less than an act of bigotry
and intolerance to refuse them that consolation. There
were other amendments of the kind which he objected
to, but it was the striking out of this provision relative
to the religious instruction that he principally found
fault with, and since the amendment made by the Lords
had made the bill worse, which he had always objected
to, he had no alternative but to move that the Lords'
amendments be considered this day three months.
Sir J. V. SHELLEY seconded the amendment, be-
lieving that the reformation of juvenile offenders should
be made the subject of a general Government measure,
and not dealt with in an isolated manner, throwing the
expense of the reformatory schools upon the particular
districts in which they were established. The time had
gone by for tolerating religious bigotry, it should be
scountenanced no matter from what denomination it
earns ; and he trusted the house would reject these
amendments of the Lords, as they were a complete
embodiment of the spirit of Protestant bigotry directed
against the civil and religious liberty of Roman Catholics.
Mr. NEWDEGATE supported the amendment,
believing that it was at variance with the interest of the
state to recognise the authority of Roman Catholic
priests, even in a private bill, as this one undoubtedly
was. The bill, as it had been amended, would be most
useful and salutary, but if it were to be tampered with
the objectionable provisions rejected by the Lords, it
would be a curse rather than a blessing to the me-
tropolis.

Mr. J. BALL opposed the passing of the bill with the
clause appended to it, by the committee of the Lords.
Sir G. GREY explained the course taken by the com-
mittee of the Lords in reference to this bill. He read a
portion of 7th Geo. IV. c. 74, which enacted that three
chaplains shall be appointed for every county prison in
Ireland, one Protestant, one Presbyterian, and one
Boman Catholic, and which further provided for the
celebration of divine worship according to each of those
three forms of worship every Sunday in those prisons. He
was prepared to disagree with the Lords' amendment,
but he was not disposed to support the motion of Lord
D. Stuart as it would have the effect'of rejecting the bill
together. At the same time, seeing the prospect there
was of the passing of the Juvenile Offenders Bill which
contained the provision struck out of this bill, if the
house thought the Lords would not be induced to recon-
sider their decision, perhaps the best course -vould be to
reject these amendments altogether.
Mr. MILES opposed the motion to reject the bill.
Lord D. STUART said after what had fallen from the
right hon. baronet the Secretary of State for the colo-
nies, he was prepared to change his motion for another,
i_a
namely, that the house dee
ment, gree with the Lords' amend-
Mr. M. MILNES hoped the bill
Mr. LUCAS argued that the .7ould be withdrawn.
amendments was to change the
char:rot of the Lords'
a reformatory bill to a proselytising it of the bill from
be called upon the house not to rele. ct,' and
de
therefore
eaflot
or e.
gether, but simply to disagree with the Lords' amend-
ments.
Lord D. STUART, as the member in charge of +l., bill, begged the house to allow him to rema.rlcihat-t-hles
debate was another illustration of how religious
ences could stand in the way of useful legislation, differ-
ences
hear.) However, all he asked the house to do was, e
to reject the Lords' amendments, as that course wouldnt
be tantamount to throwing out the bill for the sessio
Mr. ADDERLEY said, the clause which had been
struck out by the Lords was wholly impracticable; if it
had remained in the bill the measure would have been
useless, and although he was by no means deficient in
religious tolerance, he thought the Lords had
acted wisely in rejecting the clause. (Hear, hear.)
The clause was simply this ; it empowered the children
of all denominations to be instructed by their own re-
ligious teachers, according to the religious persuasion of
their parents, so that, if a child's parents were to pro-
fess infidelity, this clause would insist upon the child
being brought up in these reformatory schools to entertain
the same opinions. (Cheers.)
After some observations from Colonel Blair, Mr.
Williams and Mr. Dunlop, the amendment that the
Lords' amendments be considered this day three months
vas withdrawn.
A portion of the Lords' amendments, which were of
a verbal nature, were then agreed to.
Lord D. STUART moved to disagree with the Lords'
amendments, which prevented children of other religious
denominations than the Established Church from having
divine worship celebrated in these schools according to
their own faith.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said if the house rejected these
amendments the bill was lost for this session.
Lord J. RUSSELL did not think so, the Lords
might be induced to (reconsider their amendments, and
since he thought children of all denominations were en-
titled to the religions instruction of their own pastors
he could not agree with the Lords in their amendments.
After some observations from Mr V. SCULLY, the
house divided, when there appeared—.
For the Lords' amendments l5l
Against them
The lords' amendments were secordinziv agreed to.
There was another amendment of
icressimporunt

character, which Lord Dudley Stuart moved the'house to
disagree with.
The house again divided, when there appeared—
For the Lords' amendment 202
Against them 67
Majority.
The Lords' amendments were then agreed to.
[LEFT SITTING.]

THE LONDON GAZETTE.

(THIS EVENING.)

WAR-OFFICE, JULY 7.

let Regiment of Life Guards—Corporal-Major John
Limbert to be Adjutant, with the rank of Cornet and
Sub-Lieutenant, without purchase, July 7.
3rd Regiment of Foot—Captain Frederick William Gore,
from the 6th Foot, to be Captain, vice Taylor, who ex-
changes, July 7.
6th Foot—Captain Cortlandt Taylor, from the 3rd Foot,
to be Captain, vice Gore, who exchanges, July 7.
22nd Foot—Captain John Breton, from the 53d Foot, to
be Captain, vice Maycock, who exchanges, July 7.
25th Foot—Captain Charles Miller Layton, from the
35th Foot, to be Captain, vice Browne, who exchanges,
July 7.
35th Foot—Captain Charles Frederick Browne, from the
25th Foot, to be Captain, vice Layton, who exchanges ;
Captain Arthur J— Le Grand, from the 63d Foot, to be
Captain, vice Spring, who exchanges; William Meadows
Ansell, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Wilson, who
retires' July 7.
49th Foot—Henry Dalton Scoones, Gent., to be Ensign,
without purchase, vice M'Donald appointed to the 79th
Foot, July 7.
53d Foot—Captain Joseph Maycock, from the 22d Foot,
to be Captain vice Breton, who exchanges, July 7.
57th Foot—,
Lieutenant James Franklyn Bland to be
Captain, by purchase, vice Law, promoted in the 3d West
India Regiment, July 7.
63d Foot—Captain Thomas Spring, from the 35th Foot,
to be Captain, vice Le Grand, who exchanges, July 7.
71st Foot—Ensign and Adjutant James Dalgleish to
have the rank of Lieutenant, July 7.
97th Foot—Reginald Cyril Goodenough, Gent., to be
Ensign, by purchase, vice Scoones, whose appointment has
been cancelled, July 7.
3d West India Regiment—Major George Abbas Kooli
D'Arcy, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, by purchase, vice Mur-
ray, who retires; Captain Charles Edmund Law, from the
57th Foot, to be Major, by purchase, vice D'Arcy, July 7.
BREVET. Lieut.-Colonel Sir Frederick Abbott, C. 8.,
East India Company's Military Seminary at Addiscombe,
to be Colonel in the Army in the East Indies. Captain
Falconar Hay, Adjutant, East India Depot, at War-
ley, to be Major in the Army in the East Indies, June 20.
MEMOILANDII3I.—The Christian names of Ensign and
Lieutenant Wynne, appointed to the Grenadier Guards
on the 27th June, 18.54, are Edward William Lloyd,
and not Edward Lloyd, as previously stated. The ap-
pointment of Charles William Hammond, Gent., to be
Assistant-Surgeon to the Forces, as stated in the Gazette
of the 9th June, 1854, has been cancelled.
MEMORANDUM. —The second Christian name of Lieu-
tenant and Captain Thellusson, of the Coldstream Guards,
is John, and not George, as previously stated.
Ist Life Guards—The Commissions of Cornet and Sub-
Lieutenant William Hessey to be Lieutenant, and of
Arthur Edward Holland Grey, Viscount Grey de Wilton,
to be Cornet and Sub-Lieutenant, without purchase, on
20th June, 1854, have been cancelled.