The Sun.
London, England, 1853-08-03 00:00:00

SUPPLY.

The committee of supply appointed for to-day was
Pcvstponed until to-morrow.
LAW OF BRIBERY AND TREATING AT
ELECTIONS.

On the question that the order of the day be read,
Mr. T. DIINCOINIBE said the hon. member for Mid-
burst some time ago gave notice of his intention to bring
in a bill to alter and amend the law relating to bribery
and treating at elections. Now, as there was no time
to dispose of such an important and necessary measure
this session, he yet hoped the right hon. gentleman
'would lay his bill upon the table before the prorogation,
in order that it might be considered during the recess.
Mr. WALPOLE said the measure which he proposed
to bring in would embrace the three points of bribery,
treating, and intimidation at elections ; and it was in-
tended to make the law respecting those offences more
stringent and explicit. He should have no objection to
lay the bill on the table, and on Thursday or Friday he
would ask for leave to bring it in with a view to its
being considered during the recess by both sides of the
house.
The house then passed to the orders of the day.
TAX UPON HORSES AND DOGS.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. gave
notice that to-morrow he proposed to make certain alie
tations in the Assessed Taxes Bill with regard to race
horses—horses used for the purpose of husbandry by
parties who were not professional farmers —and to re-
store the tax upon dogs kept by paupers. The pro-
prietor of a race horse would be taxed according to the
largest number of horses that he kept—the number to
be fixed by himself—while with regard to horses which
',mere used promiscuously by parties who carried on
farming operations, without being professional farmers,
the tax would be commuted for a guinea a year. These
new resolutions would be printed with all the votes.
EPISCOPAL AND CAPITULAR ESTATE BILL.
On the motion for the second reading of this bill,
Mr. WIGRAM pointed out a variety of legal and
technical objections to the bill. He acknowledged that
a necessity existed for legislation on this subject ; but at
this period of the session it was perfectly hopeless to
Athinekornomf perfecting an important measure of this nature.
was now sittin on the subject of colle-
giate and cathedral churches .gand although he did not
object to the
reason he had s principle of the bill, he thought, for the
tated, that it would be better to post-
pone it until a future
session. He should therefore
move, as an amendment, that the bill be read a second
time this day three months.
Sir R. H. INGLIS seconded the amendment, and
explained that the simple object of the bill was to trans-
fer the property of the oldest landowners in the country
to the management of three lay commissioners sitting
in London. All the capitular bodies in the country
'viewed the bill as a measure of injustice, and considering
that a commission was now sitting upon. this very sub -
iect, and also considering the late period of the session,
feionr,
he thought it would be better to reject the measure
the present.
Mr. S. HERBERT believed that the
dignitarieseexi of thestinsystem
Vas excessively faulty, and exposed the
He
quite agreed, there-
,.lYhurch to unjust imputations.
-lore, that the subject was one which Parliament
with it in
l ought
to take up, but he did not think this bill d
4Proper manner. He decidedly disapproved
theove Legislaturedofi
tsprin-
tiple, but as it was quite impossiblei that
'2"3.111 deal with this question, until it was in possession
~.,*3f the report of the commission now sitting
on the sub-
ject, he thought it would be inexpedient to proceed fur-
ther with this bill, even supposing that its machinery
Was good. (Hear, hear.)
After a few words from Mr. VERNON,
The Marquis of BLANDFORD said, at the present
rn
otnent be did not purpose to proceed fufurtherthan
ask
the house to affirm the principle of the bill, by passing
the second reading, and thus declare its opinion that
teclesiastical property ought to be placed under the
agement of laymen. The salaries of the clergy
'sould be made fixed instead of fluctuating, as was the
'ease under the existing system ; and all that h e now
The
upon the house to
th
do was to affirm this principle.
b je
su et.
4-Die fact that a commission was now sitting on _
should not be allowed to stand in the way of the second
-,,eading of this bill, because the subject had already been.
in
by a commission, and the recommendations
°l.f that commission were embodied in this bill. Where,
tisue,ll) was the use of delaying further the settlement of
Z 8 question ? The existing system was humiliating to
Z.' bishops, and while this bill would remove them
t'rolia the worldly care attendant upon the management
of temporal estates, it would at the same time protect
Lem. from these humiliating influences ; and, on the.
Whole, he thought the house would be quite justified in
Passing
Sir B. HALL the second rea
hding.
this said e was sure that all members of
'8 house were agreed as to the objects with which ecclesiastical property should be dealt with, however
re
eh they might differ as to the mode to be employed.
doubt was not less sure that no member in the house could
that the noble lord, who had devoted so much time
trouble to the preparation of this bill, was a sincere
8 friend of the Church; and that his bill was intended to
aeaure these objects, in the pursuit of which all were
Ire& It would be better, therefore, if those gentle-
t, 1131 who objected to the particular machinery proposed.
rna employed by this bill were, instead of rejecting it
to consent to the second reading, and after-
:aomiiiftirt'llenße,:WhYen it was brought under their notice in corn-
propose such amendments or further pro-
ali:daa,,, as they might think necessary. He then
Ir.l
wheoict? seeevnelreasilalsattieeailnsptraeripceerstyof the corrupt manner
was managed under
he existing system, and referred particularly to the cases
°Tho Ilighton Buzzard (mentioned in the papersßthkis
al -Ining), the chapter of Westminster, and ic -
~aosworth, where it was alleged that the grossest
-.oi'll'eS had been allowed to prevail. For the sake
:stopped Church itself, these abuses ought to
hbe
fret:ad ; and, as he believed this bill would have t at
tztl,ciit should certainly have his support. (Hear.
J. RUSSELL thought it would have been)_ far.
hadetter had the noble lord who had charge of the bill
cession the suggestion, and postponed it until a future
xv„.7". He would not say that the principle of the bill.
b,a, 2ne which Parliament might not hereafter adopt ,
t.` lor the reasona which others had already stated,
';`' should be compelled to vote against the
aeue.°lll..d reading, if the noble lord pressed the
-t., 7tvipn
the a
division. The noble lord then proceeded
igt)..r
his the past legislation upon this subject, and gave
C 7,
sui.,tas,Hla_tseyb!iisolipoinpiso,n, after having looked carefully at both
e .l..the question, that no blame whatever attached
as the public seemed to suppose.
the4l.p. A.GLIONBY had always been of opinion that
roperty of the Church was the property of the
la t.._ 4
.and it was only just and right that the Le
:eit° oea based
butla
ruciap
to n
thisth i s
advanced
,-_tr, should see to its proper management. This bill
periodand he o
f the thereforesess
iaopnpirto‘vveads
hopeless to think of Proceeding with it with any pros-
success
of BLANDFORD said, in deference to
ui.
the str
Bhould n(mg feeling which the house had exTressed, he
B._
t. not proceed further with this bill now permission
at the
07114 10, he should state that he had the' permission
~,_._. Government to lay the same bill on the table next
"ar, 'without o siti
10 amendmentrlthliee second
sonthen withdrawn, and the order
_ EXPENSESabOwFasEdLiEseChTarIgOedN.S BILL.
On the motion for going
tiatilrerariioC intolie 4committee on this bill,
had made considerable
n. 13inERthReBbLilEl,Yansdit w simply a mea-
. e for preventing the use of Ragas now
at elec-
tianß.
k,.11,1r. COW PER said, considering that a general me
-are was .
ttie hw sectiti dorf:we 1
nebee. Übrought
r mi,n hneexthtosuegsshitonthiexibtilleoguegnhetrt:oi
4 .A,...of.t.er_ a few words from Sir C. DU
blea%l
..SIBTHORP
_adirty ‘bill7 RRELL,
peated his opinion that tbi 8 a
-(A laugh.) - It Was. clan:el:oats,
dellusivlow'
es and a trap intended to catch the honed opcn.