The Sun.
London, England, 1838-04-11 00:00:00

HULL.

The Committee met this morning at ten o'clock, when the
vote of Robert Gibson was again proceeded with.
The whole morning was occupied in the examination of Mr.
Quin, and objections taken to his answering the questions put
to him, on the ground that they might tend to criminate himself.

HOUSE OF LORDS.-(THIS DAY.)

The House sat to-day to hear Scotch appeals. The Lords
present were, the Lord Chancellor, the Marquis of London-
derry, and Lord Dinorbcn.

HART V. FRAME.
Sir Wm. FOLLETT concluded his reply in this case to-day,
the facts of which we stated shortly when the case was last
before their Lordships.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he would give judgment on
the 30th of the present month.

EWING V. INGLIS.

The arguments in this appeal were resumed, but had not
concluded when our reporter left.

CRIMINAL COURT.-(THIS DAY.)

OLD COURT.

FORGERY.— Thomas Iverson, a gentlemanly-looking youth,
of the age of 18, was indicted for forging and uttering a forged
check, well knowing the same to have been forged, with intent
to defraud Sir R. Carr Glynn and Co., bankers.
Mr. Doane prosecuted, Mr. C. Phillips defended.
Mr. DOANE, in stating the case to the Jury, remarked, that
it was very painful to see a youth of the prisoner's respectable
connections at the bar of a Criminal Court, to answer so
serious a charge. The prisoner's father carried on an exten-
sive business in the silk trade. The prisoner was employed i❑
his father's establishment, and in the course of his occupation
had frequently to go to the house of Messrs. Kopsch and Co.,
wholesale silk-dealers, in Broad-street, City—the firm whose
signature the prisoner was charged with forging.
Witnesses were then called, who proved that on the 26th of
February the prisoner presented a cheque for 1001. at the
banking-house of Glynn and Co., signed " A. J. Kopsch and
C 0.," the signature of that firm, and that the cheque was a
forgery.
On the cross-examination of Mr. Kopsch, it was elicited by
Mr. PHILLIPS that Marquis, a servant of the firm, had ab-
sconded a short time previous to the forgery, and had been ad-
vertised for as having committed a theft ; that Marquis had
opportunities for obtaining access to the cheque books of the
firm; and that he (Mr. Kopsch) had himself remarked that
the writing of the signature " A. J. Kopsch and Co." to the
cheque in question looked like Marquis's handwriting.
Mr. Wanlys, clerk to the " Newspaper Press Benevolent
Association,'' deposed that he saw the prisoner writing some-
thing at the counting-house of Kopsch and Co. on the evening
of Feb. 24, but he could not see what the writing was.
Some papers were produced, found on the prisoner when he
was apprehended, on which the name of Kopsch appeared
twice; and Mr. Kopsch said the writing of the name on these
papers was like his signature, and like the signature on the
forged cheque.
Mr. C. PIIILLIPS addressed the Jury in a most able manner
for the defence, contending that it was apparent the prisoner
bad been the dupe of some other person ; that it was most
likely Marquis had forged the cheque, and imposed upon the
youth of the prisoner.
Mr. Justice COLTNIAN then sumed up the evidence, leaving
it to the Jury to say whether the prisoner himself forged the
cheque, or uttered it, knowing it to have been forged ; and
if there was any doubt on their minds as to either of these
points, they would give the prisoner the benefit of it.
The Jury found the prisoner guilty on the second count of
the indictment, for uttering the cheque, knowing it to have
been forged.
Mr. Mills, of the firm of Glynn and Co., recommended the
prisoner to mercy, on the ground of his tender years, and a
conviction that it was his first offence.

Mr. Justice COLTMAN said, on these grounds he should re-
commend that the severe sentence which must, for the sake of
form, be passed on the prisoner, be commuted to a certain
term of imprisonment.

NEW COURT.
(Before Mr. Baron PARKE. )
TRIAL OF THOMAS WILLIAMS, ESQ., FOR FORGERY.
(THIRD DAY.)
Shortly after ten o'clock, Mr. Baron PARK entered the
Court, and the Jury having answered to their names, the ex-
amination of witnesses for the prosecution was proceededwith.
Mr. Joseph Netherclitie, lithographer to the British Mu-
seum, was then called, and stated that he was in the habit of
examining fac similes. Paper No. 1, (the alleged will), was
then handed to witne3s, and with the aid of a glass he suc-
ceeded in tracing disjointed portions of words in
but no one entire word, with the exception of " ground." He
was of opinion that these pencil marks were affixed to tho
paper prior to the writing in ink. On paper No. 2, be traced
also in pencilling, the words " Bishopsgate-street," " Cursi-
tor-street" " Castle," " Devonshire-street," and several
disjointed words and figures. Thinks that these pencil marks
were also made upon the paper before the writing in ink. His
reason fur coming to this conclusion was, that the pencil ap-
peared to have been a bad one, for it is easier to rub out writ-
ing by a soft pencil than by a hard one, and with such a pencil
as this, the ink could not have been written over by the pencil,
or the grease of the pencil would have been observable over it.
He was still further confirmed in this opinion, by the fact of
the paper appearing to be much rubbed, and the ink not at all
defaced. Nos. 4,5, and 8, were also placed in witnesses
hands, and he traced upon them a number of letters and figures,
but he was able to connect very few of them, so as to form words.
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William Christmas, one of clerks of the Bank of Eng-
land, produced a statement of the amount of stock standing in
the name of Mr. Jones Panton, deceased, as follows:-
4,5241. 17s. 7d. Consolidated Three per Cents., dividends
received up to January, 1838 ; 3,2141. 3s. 2d. Reduced Three
and-a-Half per Cents., dividends received up to this month
by power of attorney; 20,7221. Its. Id. Three-and-a- Half
per Cents., formerly New Four per Cents., dividends not
received from July, 1837, inclusive.
John Grindley deposed that he was clerk to Mr. Ed-
ward Ramsey Williams. His employer conducted the pro-
ceedings in the case of John Roberts, a bankrupt. Knows
John Williams, of Brynhras. Cannot tell whether he was in
the service of the prisoner. Believes he is now dead. Re-
members a peculiarity of features which this man had. His front
teeth projected very much, he went by a nickname on account of
it. Remembers John Williams coming to his master's office
in August last, to prove a debt upon the Commission. The
debt amounted to 11. 11s. Bd. Witness took Williams before
the Commissioners, where he proved his debt, but was not
aisle to write his signature to the receipt, and therefore merely
affixed his mark to it.

The officer of the Bankruptcy Court produced the receipt
by direction of the Learned Judge, and in reply to the Attor-
ney- General,
The witness (Grindley) denied that he had altered the
figures since Williams had signed it. He also denied that
any charge had ever been brought against him.
Richard Owen, parish clerk of Landree, deposed that he
knew John Williams. Recollects his being in the service of
the prisoner. Produces Williams' marriage certificate. Ho
died about two years since—he believed in the month of
October.

Cross-examined by the ATTORNEY-GEMERAL—Does not
know whether Williams could write or not.

Robert Peters stated that he was present at the marriage of
John Williams, to which he was a subscribing witness.
Cross-examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL—Never saw
Williams read or write. Saw his widow and son a few days
since.
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John Hughes also knew the late John Williams. Has paid
him money, and obtained receipts from him. Produced seve-
ral of these receipts, to all of which the mark of Williams was
attached.

Several other witnesses were produced, who deposed that
Williams could not write.

BOW-STREET.---(THIS DAY.)

Charles Garfield, the publisher of the Bell's Weekly Mes.
senger, was charged on suspicion, by Mr. John Brown Bell,
proprietor of the same Journal, with embezzling the sum of
71. and other monies.
A solicitor attended on the part of the prisoner.
The complainant stated that the prisoner had been clerk
and publisher in his establishment for several years, and from
information he had received he believed he had been paid
several sums of money by various persons, none of which had
been accounted for in his cash-book. In order to make
further inquiries, Mr. Bell requested the further hearing of
the case would be postponed for a week.
The prisoner made no observation, and was ordered to be
brought up again this day week.

A few days ago the chimney of a house at Cham-
pagne, in the Am, caught fire, the sparks from which were
carried by the wind to the thatched roof of another, which was
soon in flames, and in less than two hours the conflagration
spread with such violence that no fewer than eight houses and
eleven barns were totally destroyed.

The " Animals' Friend Society," last week caused
John Saunders, Esq., a cheese-merchant of Tooley-street, to
be fined 21., and his man, Robert Taylor, 10s. for dog fighting ;
also, Richard Bush, to be fined by Messrs. Jeremy and Trail,
for cruelty to a truck dog, and the cab-driver, 477, and Prince's
Omnibus driver, 1,124, for cruelty to their horses ; also,
Chancellor's Omnibus driver, 2,365, Blare's Omnibus driver,
368, and the Paddington Omnibus driver, 307, each to be
heavily fined, by S:r John Key, for great cruelty to their
horses—the poor animals having had severe wounds from the
effects of the collar and the whip.

COAL-PIT ACCIDENT.—On Tuesday afternoon
last, about two o'clock, an accident occurred at Farnworth, by
which two workmen, Thomas Longworth and Joseph Law-
ton, were killed upon the spot. It appeared that Saturday
being the pay day, the men had not returned to their work,
and Lawton and Longworth went down to make some repairs.
Whilst engaged in taking some bricks out of the wall, a large
portion of it fell upon them. Longworth was precipitated to
the bottom ; but Lawton remained in the tub in which they
had been standing, covered with stones. They have both left
families to regret their loss.—Belton Free Press.