The Sun.
London, England, 1854-08-01 00:00:00

RETURNS ORDE RED.

On the motion of Mr. BRIGHT, a return of the ports in
the United Kingdom into which tea is permitted to be im-
ported ; also of the ports and places approved by the
Lords Commissioners of the Treasury for the purpose of
warehousing tea in bond ; also of the quantity of tea ware-
housed therein respectively ; together with the amount of
duty received thereon, at each of the said ports and
places, for the year ending the sth of April, 1851.
On the motion, of Mr. BRIGHT, returns of the total cost
of the chemical establishment of the excise department,
from the sth day of January, 1814, to the th day of
January, 1854, giving the number, the names, and sa-
laries of such officers as have been specially selected for
chemical education at University College ; of the seizure
made during the same period by whom made, and the
amount of penalties incurred, the amount recovered, and
in what manner appropriated; and of the cases compro-
mised, the amount of money paid, and the grounds on
which a compro.nise was agreed to, distinguishing the
trades of the several delinquents. The return to include
all monies paid to independent chemists employed by the
excise during the said period.
IRISH INDUSTRY.
On the motion that the Speaker leave the chair, to go
into Committee of Supply—
' Mr. LUCAS called the attention of the house to the
propriety of instituting an inquiry into the best means of
promoting Irish manufacturing industry, by training or
apprenticeship schools, and other similar establishments.
After remarking that nothing had been effected during the
present session towards the relief of Irish grievances, and
that, as admitted by Lord John Russell, there was no pro-
spect of a settlement of the land question, he contended
that it was a misrepresentation to allege that Ireland was
in a prosperous condition. The annual number of births
barely balanced that of the deaths, while a continuous
drain of emigration was depopulating the country, and
unless some means were devised to arrest this influx, it
was the opinion of the authorities on the subject that it
would proceed. Emigrants were remitting large sums to
enable their Irish relatives to join them ; and sinco the
year 1848 such remittances had increased from half a mil-
lion to a million and a half annually, and such was likely
to be the future rate of increase. The remedy he pro-
posed was suggested in his notice on the paper, and he
entered into interesting details to show how the establish-
ments in question worked iu Belgium
Lord J. RUSSELL vindicated the Government and
the legislature from the censures pronounced by Mr. Lucas,
both on account of what they had done and of what they
had abstained from doing. With regard to the suggested
establishment of industrial schools, he submitted that no
case had been made for deviating, on behalf of Ireland,
from the course pursued in this country for the promotion
of industrial education.
Mr. JAMES MACGREGOR disputed the position
Which the hon. member had taken nu, because in all the
countries he had mentioned manufacturing prosperity had
depended more upon private enterprise than State support.
For instance, in Switzerland and Belgium manufacturing
industry had originated with the people themselves; and
he should be sorry if the delusion went over to Ireland
that manufacturing prosperity depended upon state sup-
port rather than the exertions of the people. (Cheers.)
Mr. J. BALL said the statement of the noble lord with
regard to Tuscany could not apply to that country within
the last few years.
Lord J. RUSSELL explained that his statement ap-
plied to the former ages, and not to recent times.

SUPPLY.
The SPEAKER then put the question that he should
leave the chair, and the house immediately resolved itself
in committee of supply.
On a vote of 2,055/. for reinstating the chapel of the
Embassy at Constantinople,
Sir J. W ALMS LE Y asked for explanation.
Mr. WILSON said, about six or seven years ago the
chapel was accidentally burned down, and, owing to the
extravagant expenditure lavished on the building of the
embassy-house, had not been rebuilt. Two or three years
ago a vote was proposed of 4,3501. for the purpose, but was
then withdrawn, in consequence of the lavish expenditure
to which he had alluded. Strong representations of the
inconvenience felt by the British residents had been made
to the ambassador, and even offers to contribute 1,0001.
though their numbers were small. The arrangements now
made were such that the house would not be called upon
for more than the sum now proposed. The want of ac-
commodation where a large number of sailors resorted, be-
sides the residents, had been severely felt, and he hoped,
therefore, the committee would assent to the vote.
Iu reply to a question by Mr. WILLIAMS,
Mr. WILSON said an architect from the Board of Works
would go out to superintend the building, but he would.
be under the control and direction of the ambassador.
In reply to Mr. SPOONER,
Mr. WILSON said the architect was not the same gen-
tleman who superintended. the erection of the embassy-
house. The arrangements then were very imperfect, as
that gentleman was not responsible to any one on the spot.
The vote was then agreed to.
On the vote of 1,4001. to defray the expenses of erect-
ing an enclosure wall and entrance gateway, and the ne-
cessary buildings, to a British Protestant cemetery at
Ma iri 1,
Mr. AYSHFORD WISE expressed an opinion that the
vote required some explanation, inasmuch as the conditions
disclosed in the last published correspondence, as those
upon which alone the Spanish Government would consent
to this cemetery being established, were most unsatisfac-
tory, and had been justly described as wholly inconsistent
with the liberal spirit of the age. It appeared that this
question had been more or less before the public for
nearly half a century, and as long ago as the year 1796 a
piece of land, intended to be appropriated for cemetery
purposes, had been purchased by the Marquis of Bute.
Ho could not see why Parliament should be called.upou
to vote so large a sum as 1,4000. for such a purpose. Lord
Palmerston, in 1850, had asked for a return of the number
of British subjects who had (lied within a given period at
Madrid, and had pointed out to Lord Howden that upon
tho facts disclosed by that return must depend the ques-
tion as to whether the Government would be justified in
expending any very large sum of money in establishing a
cemetery there. Lord Howden at that time, in answer to
Lord Palmerston's request, had stated, on the authority of
Mr. Otway, that the number of British subjects who had
died at Madrid from the year 1834 had been only from
fifteen to twenty—not more than one a year. And it ap-
peared that, in some cases at least, the interments had
been permitted to take place in the Catholic cemeteries.
He could not understand why all the Protestant powers
—America, and Prussia, and Holland, and other Protes-
tant States, whose subjects came, as well as those of
Great Britain, to Madrid—should not support unitedly an
object of this kind. Nor could be conceive that it was ne-
cessary to have sent out a man of Mr. Albano's reputation
and experience as an architect to superintend so tiiflin,,e a
matter as the erection of a wall round a cemetery. That
such a course should have been taken seemed to him to
show an itching to expend the public money ; and as
charges of this description were continually increasing upon
the estimates, he had thought it right to direct attention
to the subject.
Mr. PELLATT wished to know whether the land was
intended to be consecrated by a bishop of the Church of
England? whether the chaplain of the embasssy was to be
the minister there ? whether the bodies of dissenters would
be received there for interment? and whether this would
extend to the child of a Baptist who might not have re-
ceived even lay baptism?
Mr. WILSON said since the date of the correspondence
to which the hon. member had referred, Lord Howden had
succeeded in obtaining terms which were considered ex-
tremely satisfactory, and in removing all the obstacles
which had been thought to stand in the way of adopting
the earlier proposition. The hon. gentleman would recol-
lect that about a year ago there was a perfect fever of in-
dignation upon the subject, and that the strongest possible
feeling ran through the metropolitan press and the press of
the country generally with respect to the way in which
Protestants were treated by the Spanish Government, in
reference to their burial ground. The public were especially
shocked by a statement that the body of an Englishman
had been dug up for the purpose of robbing it of the
clothes and other articles of trifling value which were upon
it. And it was under the pressure of these circumstances,
and of the strong feeling of indignation which was excited
by them, that arenewed effort had been made, which had re-
sulted, as he had said, in the obtaining of terms which were
considered satisfactory, and in securing a piece of land in
the only place in the neighbourhood of the town of Madrid
in which it could have been procured for such a purpose.
The consul-general upon the spot had endeavoured to in-
duce the British residents to subscribe some portion of the
expense ; but they were few in number, and in a compara-
tively humble position in life, and it would therefore have
been utterly impracticable to obtain from them, any con-
siderable sum. It therefore became a question whether
the British Government should not take steps to remove
the flagrant abuse which had been made a matter of charge
against every person concerned in the administration of
British affairs in Spain. The Government had felt it its
duty to take such steps, and to take advantage of the op-
portunity which had presented itself for putting an end to
this state of things • and the proposition which had been
submitted to the Treasury, for closing the ground and
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Mr. A. PELLATT—As to the consecration?
Mr. WILSON said the cemetery would be consecrated
by a Protestant bishop, and arrangements hul bean made
by which it would be open to all British subjects.
Sir W. MOLES WORTH said the plans submitted to

the Board of Works by the Treasury were so unsatisfactory,
and the estimates were so uncertain, that he was persuaded
that the cheapest and the most efficient mode of having the
works executed was to send out a competent person to

that he should go to Madrid, the work,
superintend them. He had arranged with Mi Albano
superintend
and return for a sum not exceeding 3001., and he thought
this a much better plan than trusting to native agency.
After a few words from Mr. M. MILNES, who congra•
tnlated the house on having, at last, obtained from the
Spanish Government a recognition of at least the existence
of Protestantism, the vote was agreed to.
On the proposal to vote 2,500/. fot the repair of the royal
monuments in Westminster Abbey,
Mr. E WART expressed his cordial approval of the ob-
ject, but expressed a •hope that the Government would
endeavour to make some arrangements by which the public
might have admission into the abbey, which was so essen-
tially a national building, and the monuments in which
were of so essentially national a character without the
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payment of any fees.
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his attention to the subject, and had inquired why any fee
was taken ; and be had been told that its object was to
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