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11IPE 111 AL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.)
SALE OF BEER, &c., BILL.

The Earl of HARROWBY, in moving that the house
go into committee on this bill, stated that there were
two or three amendments which he proposed to intro-
duce, but of which he would give notice, and move on
bringing up the report.
Lord BROUGHAM suggested that it might be con-
venient if his noble friend would state at once what was
the nature of those amendments.
The Earl of HA.RROWBY said the object of the bill
was to impose restrictions beyond those imposed by the
existing law on the consumption of liquors in public-
honses on the Ltird's Day, and the measure so far as the
limit proposed on the hours during which such houses
might remain open on the Sunday morning, had, he be-
lieved, received the approbation of all parties; as being
.qalculated to promote morality and order. In Scotland,
under a recent act, such places were closed altogether
on the Lord's. Day, and though a law going to that ex-
tent might interfere somewhat with :our notions of
liberty, he believed that act had given universal satisfac-
tion in the country where it was in operation, and it was
proposed by this bill to follow that example to "a certain
extent in England, but to allow houses of-entertainment
to be open daring part of the day to enable the working
classes to obtain beer, and such refreshments as they
might require. It had, however, been suggested by per-
sons engaged in the trade, that the object of the measure
might be answered by the adoption of somewhat less
severe restriction ; and that, by allowing the houses to
remain open for a somewhat longer period the public
would be subjected to less inconvenience than if the bill
remained in its original stringency. Communications
had been held between the promoters of the bill and cer•
ttin persons connected with the Licensed Victuallers
Protection. Soblety upon the subject of the restriction it
would be dealt-able to introduce, and,-in consequence of
those communications, the hours during whioh publi4
houses should be open had been fixed, at from 1 to 2 in
the middle of the-day, and from 6 to 10 in the evening.
Subsequently some questions had arisen whether that
was sufficient, especially in reference to houses in the
suburbs, and, on further consideration, he was not sure
whether it would not be desirable to extend the hours for
remaining open from 1 to half-past 2 in the middle of the
day to enable the working classes to obtain their dinner
beer, and that in the evening whether it might not be
well to allow the hours to open at 5 instead of 6, in or-
, der to provide for the convenience of persons who made
excursions into the country, and who might require re-
fr shments. It bad been further represented to him that
the closing hour of ten would be impracticable in the
suburbs of London in those public places and gardens
where thousands of persons sometimes assembled in the
summer, the difficulty being to get rid of them at so
early an, hour. (Hear, hear.) He, believed, however,
there would be no objection to the service of refreshments
being closed at 10, provided the premises -were allowed
to be kept open until 11. This, he believed, would sa-
tisfy all parties, and tend to the public convenience. He
admitted that the question was one extremely difficult to
deal with, but be trusted the alterations he had indi
cated would attain the object he had in view, and, whilst
tending to the proper observance of the Lord's Day and
the promotion of social order, would not trench upon,
the comforts and conveniences of the people, and of the'
working classes in particular. (Hear.)
Lord BROUGHAM would regard with great satis-
faction the relaxations which his noble friend proposed
to introduce into this bill--(hear)—believing, as he did,
that they would in a great degree obviate the main ob-
jections to it. He meant no offence to the authors of
the bill, when be declared his repugnance to this kind
of legislation, which pressed on one great body of the
community and did not press at all upon the others.
(Cheers.) And that repugnance was the greater, inas-
much as the part of the community upon which it had a
tendency to press, if it did not clearly do so, was the
working classes--the common people of this country --
(hear)_that used to be called "the lower classes," and
which comprised the great body of the people. On them
this measure tended to press, whereas the upper classes
and the greater part of the middle classes were not at all
effected by it. It would not prevent him (Lord
Brougham) from going to any of the club-houses or
hotels in St. James's-street on the Sunday—they were
open at all hours on Sundays, Good Fridays, Christmas-
days, 'and every other day.
The Earl of RARROWBY—But the clubs are pri-
vate houses.
Lord BROUGHAM—They could hardly be called
private, for they were open to 600 or 700 persons. To a
certain degree they wete pulilic, and thOugh not so pub-
lic as every person had 'a right to enter them. But he
did not intend to dwell upon, this objection, because
knowing that there was a very strong and prevailing
feeling in favour of some measure of this description, he
was for one certainly disposed to gratify that feeling
eonsideriug.also that he was told that experience irr Scot-
land wail that the more general arid stringent measure in
operation there had had an excellent effect in preventing
the various social disorders which formerly prevailed in
some parts of that c nuitry on Sundays. (Hear.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took that opportunity
of stating:that he had received a petition from an indi-
vidual named David Cook, the landlord of a public-
house near Glasgow. The petitioner complained that in
' conseqnence of the wording of the Act of Parliament,
he and others of his trade were placed in a position of
the greatest possible difficulty. An exception being
made_in favour of bona fide travellers, the petitioner in-
formed him (the Lord Chancellor) that the justioes of
the peace were not agreed on a definition. The conse-
quence was that publicans were very much hampered
in their trade, and perhaps the present bill would be a
good opportunity for exactly defining the intentions of
the legislature.
The Marquis of CLANRIdARDE thought their
their lordships should consider this bill with the greatest
deliberation, as being an abridgment of the liberties of
the working classes. (Hear, hear.) Their lordships
should not forget that there was no nation in the world
in which the working classes had so little recreation as
in this country. (Hear, hear.) Our religion and our
habits gave them fewer festivals and feasts than
were enjoyed by the people of the continent. The
noble earl had cslled attention only to places in -the
neighbourhood of the metropolis ; but their lordships
had heard of a- railway arrangement called excursion
trains, the object and use of which were to convey the
bard-worked mechanic out of town on Sundays and
holidays for a little fre',ll air. He had been informed
that the definition "bows fide travellers" was held not
to include excursion trains. He begged to impress upon"
their lordships the hardship that this must inflict
on large classes of their fellow subjects. All
along the coast of Lancashire, it was known that
there was was no enjoyment that the people prized
so much, as to repair as often as the intervals of
labour would allow them to the sea side. An early riser
might get to places of the distance of Brighton or Graves-
end and. back in tale day, and have ample time to attend
divine service ; but if *he regulation was so stringent as
to prevent his getting any refreshment, a great impedi-
ment would be thrown in the way of a most healthful
and salutary practice. He hoped, therefore, that some
provision protecting travellers by excursion trains would
be introduced, .

The Duke of ARGYLL admitted that the subject was
one of considerable difficulty, and should be treated with
caution. At the same time, it must be remembered that
i mouse- benefit, had accrued from the restrictive measure
passed for Scotland, and mo,t remarkable returns had
been sent up, showing the diminution of delinquency
since the elosing of the public houses on Sundays.
Lord ALVANLEY did not see why travellers should
be free of the public houses on Sunday more than any
one else.

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE repeated his hope
that the case to which he had called attention would be
cared for.

Lord CAMPBELL expressed his satisfaction that the
bill fixed certain hours, and said nothing about divine
service, as the nifferenthours of holding divine services
in some parishes had given rise to a legal difficulty. With
regard to the general principle of the bill, he thought it
conferred a great benefit on the working classes, and
entitled that house to their g atitude.
The bill then went through committee, and was
ordered to be reported.
REFORMATORY SCHOOLS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This bill went through committee.
ECCLESIASTICAL JURISDICTION BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
STOCK-IN-TRADE EXEMPTION BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
• COMMON RIGHTS (ORDNANCE) BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
• FRIENDLY SOCIETIES BILL.
On the order for the committee on this bill,
Lord MONTEAGLE took the opportunity of refer-
ring to .a statement to the effect that the cholera had
broken .out at Trimdon, in Durham on the 15th, and
that
Health until no curativethe 20th measures were adopted by the Board
of .
The • Earl of SHAFTESBU
of the l
RY exp
explained that the
delay had arisen in consequence ?cal authorities
applying in the first instance to the Home-office, in-
of to the Board of Health. The latter had, on
being informed of the state of things, at once forwarded
the proper instructions to the locality.
The bill passed through committe:
SPIRITS (IRELAND) BILL.
The bill passed through committee.
BURIALS BEYOND THE METROPOLIS BILLThis bill passed through committee.
LAND REVENUES OF THE CROWN (IRELAND)
BILL.
This bill Passed through committee•
HIGHWAYS (PUBLIC HEALTH) BILL.
This bill passed through curnmittee.
REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This shill was read a third time and oas.e,l.
NATIONAL GALLERY (DUBLIN) BILL.
This bill wam read a third time and passed.
The house adjourned at 25 minutes to 8 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.)
The house,resumed at six o'cl.ck.
THE SLAVE TRADE IN CUBA.
On the motion of Mr. H au address was agroed to
for copies or extracts from the cur espondence between her
Majesty's Goveininent; her Minis* at Madrid, and, the
Spanish Gtivernnent; ieiPecting-slavery and the slave-trade
in Cuba, since August, 1854, and not yet laid before this
house • and copies or extracts of all despatches from Mr.
OrawfOrd, the British consul at Havanna, and any

tish officers, respecting slavery and the slave trade in Cuba,
since August, 1853, not already laid before this house.
BIRD-CAGE WALK.
Mr. OLIVEIRA eared the First Commissioner of Works
whether, looking to the increase of traffic which may be
expected over new Westminster-bridge, in the line of
Great George-street, it would not be desirable to leave the
thoroughfare open in that locality, Ly not erecting a gate
on the site of the one just removed at the end of Birdcage-
walk, known as Storey's-gate.
.. Sir W. MOLES WORTH said the Birdoage-walk ware
•part and portion of St. James's-park, and in consequence
nor waggons, nor omnibuses, were permitted
it, but if the gates were taken away from both
ies of the Birdcage- walk, then it would be an open
neithertxo entmeri carts, t
thoroughfare for carts, waggons, or omnibuses, because in if
no'case were'those vehicles prohibited-freed golegthroug_h
switenvitanteieencewearen dr' ildtamupogit tOeneeheenhOUlt
exceptOU
iawnnoyußls'ittrrhdeeectaagsee-wrialk if the road: were -thrown open. At
present there was -ebilodeot aeootaneedatien through
Victoria-street, and the public would !suffer 'no incon.
venience froth the gates proposed to -.be „meted, be-
cause the gates would be so constructed .that' two
cazeidagetsneotualkde gdooiwunatthteheßsamentkeinghti=ga, ..tirt., ~ar tri,:i
aeizeeeid;frein the Beedeeeiseewidk
al) vehicle would be able
-I . “t! i.. - - -0, a, to the new road at Pimlico.-• . ,
11ERIFRANCIS LAWLEY.' ',
Sir J. PAKINGTON asked the Secretary. of ,State for
the Colonies-whether hereMajesty.hid been* adtised, or
whether it was hie intentipa to advistehereMaPitY, to ap-
point the Hon: -Francis'Teawiey/ikteir i bath* el thia
house, and.litely private lecretarytel one of hiher'Majesty's
Ministers', to be governor of 'One Of the Australian 'colonies,
and, if so, which of these coloniee he was to govern t'
Sir G. GREY said her Maeeity lead" been pleesed. to ap-
peint Mr. Frencie-Lawley to be warner of the leoluny of
South Australia. ' e • . '-' - ' e. ,
' TRINITY PARISH, HOBART TaVat.:.•,
Lord R. CEClL,rocved that aii address be agreedto fat
copies' or extracts oflall corresp6nderiee, pipe-11,4a eloelle'
mente that have been received at theColpnial,officaresPect•
ing the proposed appointment'of the Rev. J. G. Median&
and Rev. W. W. F. Murray to the cheplainey'of Trinity
Parish, Hobart Town. • .
Sir G. GREY said the oorrespondenCe was S. very
voluminous one, and the production of it would lead to no
good result. He hoped; the difference in question would
be 'settled.
THE STATUTE LAW:COMMISSION.
Mr. BOWYER 'asked the law officers .of the Crown
whether they could.offor any exrela,nation of the delay that
i had taken place in the appointment of the Statute Law
Commission, as announced by the. Attorziey-General in
committee of inpply.
The SOLICIT-OR-GENERAL said he had himself had
no communication with the commissioners - but bawould
take an opportunity of communicating witi thenikand let
the house know the result,
FEES UPON PATENTS.
Mr. A. PELLATT asked the Secretary of the Treasury
whether, agreeably to the requirement of the Patent Law
Amendment Act, the Commissioners of Patents of Inven-
tions had laid a report before Parliament of all the pro-
ceedings under and in pursuance of the said act, and If not,
whether the report had been prepared and was isoady to
lay before Parliament thii session; also, whether the law
officers of Scotland and Ireland had received a share of the
fees upon patents, or whether, in lieu thereof, they had
accepted a fixed salary, and what was the amount they had
received since the Ist day of October, 1852 (the data of the
act), and the nature of the duties they bad performed.
Mr. WILSON said, the report to which the hon.egentle-
men referred had not yet been laid on the table of the
house, but it was now ready, and would be presented on
Tuesday or Wednesday, in next week. With regard to
the officers of Ireland and Scotland they did not now enjoy
any part of the fees.
OXFORD UNIVERSITY BILL.
On the order of the day for the consideration of the
Lords' amendments in this bill, ,
Lord J. RUSSELL said, generally speaking, the Govern-
ment was disposed to agree with the amendments. There
ware a few in which they did not agree, but they were not
of sufficient importance to. state them separately, and he
would state, them as they went on.
The amendments were then read. On one of them,
The CH A. J CEL LOR of the EXCHEQUER said it would
be recollected that they had a good deal of discussion as to
the day on which the hebdomadal council should commence
1 its functions, and atter infinite trouble they settled it.
When they went to the House of Lords they settled it also
to their satisfaction. The House of Lords had fixed the
14th day of Michaelmas term for the council to be elected,
but as they were to be elected by a body which would not
be in existence till the 15th, there was a difficulty.
Some discussion ensued, which resulted in an amend-
ment proposed by Lord J. RUSSELL, to obviate the diffi-
culty, being agreed to.
On the Lords' amendment, that " congregational" be
substituted for sectional election in the case of the members
of the hebdomadal council,
Mr. WALPOLE said that it would.be a grave question
for the house to consider whether they would agree to the
aniendwent. Originally the hebdomadal board consisted
only of the heads of houses,-bnt its compositionbeing con-
sidered unfivourable,to the university elementeit had been
proposed' that it, should consist of three classes—one-third
heads of houses, one-third prefessors, and one-third mem-
bers of
,convocation. The house had decided that each
should be elected by its own class, but the House of Lords
had altered the provision, so that all the members should
be elected by the congregation. The effect-of this clangs
would be to throw the entire governing power of the uni-
versity into the hands of a body of 250 persons, the majority
of whom were supposed to hold a peculiar and special class
of opinions. The object of the Lcrrile-amendinent was to
create an oligarchy who would not number one-tenth of
the members of the university: He should, therefore,
move that the house disagree with the amendment.
Lord J. RUSSELL was of opinion that the house ought
to agree with the amendment.' If its effect had been to re-
duce a large constituency to a small one, there would be
some. plausibility in the right hon. gentleman's argument.
In point of fact, however, the right hon. gentleman had
proposed that one-third of the hebdomadal council should
be elected by a body of 24, and another third by another
body of not more than 29 or 30 persons. He thought,
therefore, that the scheme of the right hon. gentleman was
a much more " oligarchy" one than that proposed by. the
House of Lords. (Hear.)
Mr. HENLEY said that the plan of sectional election
had been proposed by his right bon.'friend, on the re-
jection of election .by the convocation, as a better alterna-
tive than election by the congregation. (Hear.) He
wished to take this opportunity of alluding to a statement
which had been made in, another place, so utterly un-
founded that he confessed that he had heard it made with
very great surprise. He referred to the statement that
there had been an arrangement among the heads of houses
that they should be elected by seniority. He had made it
his business to inquire into the matter, and he was enabled
to state that the subject• had not even been mooted.
(Hear, hear.)
Sir W. HEATFICOTE opposed the motion, for he
thought it would be exceeding.y injurious for the tnembers
of the council to be.regarded as mere deputies from the
!Efferent constituent . bodies. The original object of the
clause was solely to secure a somewhat different qualifica-
tion in the members of the council. He thought that
the congregation would be a fair epitome of the univer-
sity. (Hear.) •
Mr. HEY,WOOD had voted for sectional election; lint
since then two clauses had been adopted which wouldhave
the effect of throwing open the university to the country.
He should, therefore, vote for the amendment, because he
thought that; Oxford would now be so far accessible to I
public opinion that the congregation would elect proper
persons.
Mr. WIGRAM opposed the-amendment, on the ground
_,
that sectional election had been recommended by the Ox- *
ford Tutors' Association, by the authorities of Cambridge,
end by the commissioners on the latter university. He
thought it desirable that the members of the council should
be chosen by different bodies. If the members of the
house were elected by the same constituency there would
angtilsdt thehemsa,
satisfactory. (Hear, bear.)
bnuotdneeuihtht ehretehegirre!eletbtateteesi nwoorrethueinrandiemciistironasmwo
stated lir
tNhaEtWa
grew
sGtAnTumE
number of thethe wßriisteherep f'eorf thOexpfeerliodtil
been so much
lal board baying
eportelsustewderfoerrtehseilhereitamt
s, Oxford, and that fact quite so-
cispaci_y of the
to eliminate by
every vestige of the coperato
of
years
run down the press. The object of
heads of houses, who had for so many
. hundreds
0 fbrd could
the amendmentt .vas
bear no rival, and therefore be congratulated
..
governed the university. The Biokopofxhimston
(i)garadi.liesThine nthoeblpeulholrtde
tpressbes successful ss
vilifiedful ro atnhneer iii
hebdomadalwhic h hb
spirits of the university was a disappointed nianhadanfdouinndhaimmutplipeortleirsco.
It
as
oafildthiet
aslitudwuacse induced tom opnrgo pose and
twashe vfoori c ethoefirtlisesskeh,,e,lisaeonini tenonttatthhaatt
nhfe
tr eh
ep reins
ae
jnnteridty,
the resi-
dents
ti.inriryyertoshfi itsyo:x"tfhoeralditmtheeinintto.lb'rlae(lclitoearardrianisna first had its origin,
and the effect of this amendment would be to increase the
power and influence of those residents. There could be no
(
doubt that it would give an impetus to Tractarianism,
from which the majority of the university dissented.
The amendment, in fact, would hand over the Church of
England, bound hand and foot, to the fostering care of
those who were her enemies in disguise, and he did sin-
cerely hope the house would not agree to it. (Hear.
The house then divided, when there appeared.— )
For the Lords' amendtnent.................. 115 Against it .......................................... 62-53
The amendment was accordingly agreed to. Mr. WIGRAM proposed to disagree to the Lords'
amendments to clause 15. This clause provided that the
Vice-Chancellor should make out a register of convocation, and the amendments which the Lords had made .would make this register "conclusive," so that'if a name' was
accidentally left out of it the party would hays no redress.
The CHANCELLOR of the D.CHEQI7ER caw no sea. •
son for not agreeing to the amendments. No doubt' the
clause would impose some trouble upon the Tice-Chancel-
lor, but he would have ample time and Means furnishing
his register correct. . ...
The amendment was then agreed to. . . .
On clause 31, which as amended by the Lorde provides
for the "consolidation and conversion of fellowships" milt,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed t*
enlarge the poWer of the clause by varying its phraseology
so as to make it embrace all descriptions of fellowships and
scholarships, whether attached to schools or otherwise,
well as " emoluments" of all denominations.
amend-
ments so enlargedis'amentim wereentwasagradeoed to.
pted, and the Lords' amend-
Mr. ROUNDELL PALMER moved, "That the house
0 ts to clause 34, ex-
do disagree to all the Lords'
and 41, page 10, and the words ' or, 1 i
cept the addition of the woanwisee`
Id be to restore the
this motion would page 10." Tne effect of
sent up to the Lords, and to
odrEne:natelt,:, inin Wine:442o,
clause as it stood when it was
tsof foundation schools from
largestse,,fcommons to do every-
exemp the college en.olumen
emoluments. He admitted
abolition of the
firett li ien clause
opts hro:'rt short sionfPtafs:eli: in
bill.
itih.
ecil:„T ooh nue to
b acquiregyetl
ovi as
elal
rfetieigo,l
eluto:hwaesheslii:pm, u
psoel ne
under all circumstances,depend for /life ; 'se
.
t‘lhitilitehit
bNie-asmaignbetvi l
arrange-
ments.
alienation,a s
lEiel.avteshri this, facttoo, when ew case
hu l e
might
hmot of bi
New
edowits the abuses which
but the evil might. blrgauaprded egaiust
bail been ined of had been reformed. Whether the
houseseecploue)rtilf e, him or not, he should have the satisfac- .
. preven an act
of of feeling that he had done his best to t
of injustice.
After a few words from Mr. PRICE,
err. HENLEY was very .glad his hon. and learned friend
had again given the house an opportunity Of recoliding iter
sentiments with regard to this clause. • (Hear- hear.) . It
.
was an extraordinary thing 3, that an hereditary peerage
should have disr.egarded claims of 300 !,„,, standing, kee4
acted simply On the prinClPle deturVigniori. If it con-
tinued to pursue such a course it could not expect long to
retain its privileges. (Laughter.) Whatever might b•
said of the clause in its present shape, he maintained that