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then, exhausted by the mighty effort, retiring into the country
to recruit their strength for the ensing Session—(Laughter)
—in this way the public will no longer be deluded.—( Cheers.)
If the Government deem the Ballot to be important, it ought
to be made a Government measure.—( Hear, hear.) Their
existence as a Government ought to bo staked upon it.—
( Cheers. ) They have nothing to apprehend as to the re-
sult.—( Hear, and Cheers.) If . they were turned out
to-morrow, through being out-voted on the question of the
Ballot—or any, or all, the parts of the system of reform in-
eluded in the resolutions—the same mighty power that in
1831 placed them in office, and which re-instated them when,
for a time, they were made the victims of the artifices and con-
trivances of their opponents—would speak still louder, and the
strong sinews of the people would be no longer kept down by
the story that the Monarchy was adverse to them—that the
Court was crowded with hostility against them—that delusion
has been destroyed by death, and we now know, that we have
an executive magistrate whose principles are as pure as her age,
who only requires to be well counselled to carry out the just
desires of her people.—( Loud cheering.) And, on the 16th
of February, 1 wish the working classes—at whose grow-
ing power no one rejoices more than I do, with whose wrongs
no one sympathizes more than I do, and to whose interests
and just rights no one is willing to make greater sacrifices
than I am—l wish, on that occasion, there may be not fewer
in number, not less enthusiastic than that which greeted our
youthful Queen on her first visit to Parliament.—( Cheers.)
Let the people take an interest in the subject—let them show
themselves in their majesty, and their strength, and cheer the
friends of reform as they are going down to the House—let
them appear in mighty millions—strong, because peaceful—
triumphant, because resolved.—( Cheers.) There is one other
subject connected with these resolutions which it is necessary
for me to touch—and I will only touch it—it is a dirty sub-
ject. I regret that I was not present when Mr. Arrowsmith
introduced his resolutions, that I might have heard his rea-
sons for supporting them. So far from regretting that any
gentleman should present himself at a public meeting of his
fellow citizens to state fearlessly his opinions, however much
they may differ from my own, or of those about me—l admire
and I respect the firmness of character which led
Mr. Arrowsmith to come forward, and boldly express
his real sentiments.—( Cheers.) I own I should be
rather curious to know what reasons could be adduced in sup-
port of a line of conduct which I have always heard con-
demned out of doors.—( Hear.) As far as regards myself,
I feel flattered by the persecution with which I have been
visited by the Government. Perhaps, Mr. Arrowsmith thinks,
looking at the importance of the enquiry, that I should have
merged all personal considerations, and taken my place in the
Committee by pledging myself not to give publicity to its pro-
ceedings. But there were two reasons why I should not take that
course. The first is that Ido not consider I could be of
any use in the Committee. It is not my Committee. That
is only another part of the miserable tactics of the peddling
Government.—( Cheers.) When a Committee is granted to
an Hon. Member, especially when that Member has laboured
long on a subject, which naturally was a most invidious
one, he was usually allowed to name his own Committee.
But when the Government could no longer refuse enquiry,
when they found that many who had assisted them to get
through their dirty work would no longer support them, then
they step forward and take the appointment of the Committee
into their own hands.—( Hisses.) When I look at the com-
position of the Committee, I do not see that I can expect
that it will arrive at any conclusion which will he satis-
factory to me. I find on it the names of. many of the
gentlemen who were on the Civil List Committee, and who
when that Committee was called upon to place that Civil
List upon the only foundation on which enquiry could reach,
it supported the Chancellor of the Exchequer—supporting
him in strangling all enquiry. What reason have we then for
expecting that they will now act better? You all remember
the line of conduct I pursued on the Poor-law Committee, and
I believe you approved of it. On that Committee there
were only four Members who were not its determined
ter- sup-
p they were for the Bill, the whole Bill, and noth-
or s—
ing but the 13111.—( Laughter.) I soon found that Mr.
Walter, even with all his honest zeal in the cause of the
poor man, was no match for the number of his opponents.
All he said was perverted—all he did was circumvented.
The Committee came to a resolution, and every Member upon
it was put upon his honour, that he would not commu-
nicate to any one out of doors what had transpired
within. What did I find ? Why that when we had an
important discussion with closed doors—when the Gen-
tlemen of the Press were shut out along with the public
—every Member being upon his honour not to communi-
cate any information out of the Committee—l found that within
twenty-four hours that whole discussion was answered—that
discussion which took place in the most secret manner was
answered within twenty-four hours by witnesses and docu-
ments.—( Hisses.) I found the tables of the Committee-
room surrounded by the most active agents of the Poor-law
Commissioners, while the interests of the poor were to
be attended to by only Mr. Walter, Mr. Hodges,
Mr. Wakley and myself.—( Disapprobation.) I myself
asked Lord John Russell for a paltry sum of 3001. for the pur-
pose of providing a Secretary to assist Mr. Walter and Mr.
Hodges, with the other friends of the poor, and to provide a
room for the witnesses who were in attendance on their
behalf, yet the request was not complied with.—(Hissing.)
Seeing, at the same time, no other way in which the ungenerous
imputations and libellous matter which, hour after hoar, was
heaped upon the unoffending and unprotected heads of the
poor could he in no other way parried, I from that day deter-
mined to publish from day to day the proceedings of that Com-
mittee. The matter was brought before the Houseof Commons,
and a resolution was framed that doing so was a breach of its
privileges. Ido not now enter upon the propriety of that rule
in general ; but I opposed it in that particular instance for
the reasons I have stated. The resolution passed was to the
effect, that whoever did so, incurred the displeasure of that
House. When the House was subsequently about to sum-
mon the Printer of the True Sun to the Bar, I said I
would not protect myself under such forms (Cheers)
—that I was the sole proprietor, and was prepared to suffer
whatever punishment a violation of these rules would entail.—
( Cheers.) see, my friends, the value of perseverance in any
ease—see what encouragement this case affords, of not to be
deterred from the path of well-doing. What did I witness in
that Committee? Lord John Russell as leader of the House
of Commons, who had declared the violator of the resolution
which lie had proposed guilty of pains and penalties, he comes
down and mores the publication of the evidence from day to
day.—(Tremendous cheering.) But dont fancy that this was
the result of any change of mind with reference to this parti-
cular measure, or of personal forbearance. The same filthy
sneaking spirit of hostility which marked the whole of the con-
duct of that faction toward myself in many instances, which I
shall not now partiularize, crossed their minds, and they said—
he is the proprietor of the True Sun, and if we compel him to
take up his abode in that room of which our colleague Sir J.
Hobhouse was formerly a tenant—( Hear, and laughter)—it will
be such a profitable promulgation to the world—( Hear)—that
he is the proprietor of the True Sun, that those lashings
which we are in the habit of receiving night after night will
become so generally known and so universally talked of, and
our conduct will be so denounced by this instrument of power,
to which we are giving further circulation, that we shall be
more injured and disgraced than ever.—( Hear, hear.)
Gentlemen, the True Sun having set, and they being no
longer scorched by it, it was intimated to me by
an 'Hon. Friend of mine that there would now be no ob-
jection to my being on the Committee, and I was requested,
to allow myself to be proposed. This I objected to.—( Hear. )
If a good law is violated, the punishment ought to be inflicted,
but it ought not to be evaded, and the more so when that
evasion takes place in high places and among men in au-
thority. Who ever thought of saying, when you sit down to
whist with your friend, " Mind, you shall promise not to
revoke."—( Hear.) It is surely time enough to talk of that
when you ask him to take down three, or put up three points
for yourself.—( A laugh.) I was called upon to make a promise
not to publish evidence before I knew what that evidence was.
And Sir Robert Peel saw that, and prepared himself for a
motion of that kind, and said it was not for an infraction of
the law—he took a more high, a purer, and more defensible
ground. I object (said he) to the Member for Southwark
being on the Committee, because, in sarcastic tones, he ven-
tured to speak of Honourables, and Right Honourables, and
aged Dowagers, with the same sort of sympathy as lie would of
the scum of the earth, and out of whose miseries and bones my
own father got his estate.—(Loud cheers.) Oh, Gentlemen, I
wish you could go into the House and witness, night after
night, the painful exhibition that takes place under the name
and auspices of party, and we should hear no more chastise-
ment as to the want of principle or just conduct among the
working classes. Having given these explanations relative
to the petition, which I shall hare the honour to present, and
touched on the other unimportant matter as regards myself, I
have little to say further than this, that you have most correctly
taken up the subject as regards yourselves, for it is in fact
a perpetual proscription of your representative from being
on any Committee. The question is not whether the evi-
dence on the Poor Law Committee, or on the Pension
Enquiry Committee (if it ever meet) be published ; but that
the people shall know from day to day what is passing in
Committee through the means of the Press. The same
in - in-
terdict would be enforced upon me one case as in the other.
Thank God, though the True Sun is set, there are other papers
surviving, and there is, I trust, sufficient independence in the
British Press, to give as impartial a narrative of what is passing
in and out of Committees, as in and out of the gallery of the
House of Commons.—( Cheers.) And therefore if I were on
the Committee to-morrow, what security would they have that
I should not feel it my duty to communicate to some of the
many organs of the Press the occurrences therein ? I say the
pledge to be honest must be universally imposed, and I must
therefore submit that by the restraint of that ignoble
obligation all my constituents are disfranchised.—( Cheers. )
I had intended, if the time of the meeting had not been far
more appropriately occupied by discussions among yourselves
_upon subjects more directly inviting your attention—it was
my wish to have run something of a harrow between the con
dition and the prospects of the country, and the condition and
prospects of our fellow citizens in the Canadian Colony. I
shall not do so.—( A cry
of " Go on o on ; Oh, pray
do so, Sir.") I shall not do so, further than to say,
, g
the history of the proceedings in that country pretty much
unravel the condition of the people in this. They, like
yourselves, have been struggling for many years for its
essential and desirable improvement. On sonic small mat-
ters, which did not directly affect the Geveroment, con-
cessions have brew made ; but there have been then
as here a universal evasion of all comprehensive plans of im-
provement, and at last the leaders of reform in that country
were compelled to look into the causes. I deeply regret that
at the very time when, by great firmness and unceasing exer-
tion_, the patriots of Canada were on the eve of obtaining all
desirable objects, they should have been so misguided and their
Council so feeble as to make an outbreak at a time wheir they

were making an inroad into all the difficulties and prejudices
that had hitherto acted as barriers to improvement,—(Hear,

hear.) But lam nut Qne of those who, in the hour of misfor-
tune, will denounce their entire conduct. I doubt if the Cana-
dians had not met as they have done and passed the strong
resolutions they have—l say, if they had not given external
demonstrations of resistance, I doubt whether they would ever
have attained that measure of improvement of which, I trust,
Lord Durham is to be the herald.—(Loud and long-
continued Cheers.) There was a much greater occasion for
their outbreak than any that we find here. I own I have been
surprized that both Houses of Parliament have been so
prompt to throw aside the result of the Houses of Assem-
bly, speaking the voice of the people. See what a
rod they have made for their own backs I Hear our Consti-
tutional speakers, comfortable in their large fortunes—are
they not constantly telling the great masses in Parliament and
out of Parliament, that you must look to the representatives of
the people as the accredited and constitutional organs through
which great national improvements can be worked out ? That
is the greet theatre in which all the mighty improvements
in Church and State are to be worked out. So the poor Ca-
nadians were told. They did there what the people did here
during the Reform Bill. Papineau, right or wrong, persuaded
the Canadians they would never obtain the redress of their
grievances unless they had an elective Council. The
people listened to his advice, and they returned an immense
majority to the House of Assembly, who came to a resolution to
which they adhered, that unless they could have a reform, the
Government should have no supplies. How many members
were there in that assembly?—Eighty-eight. Haw many in
favour of the Government ?—Nine. Seventy-nine out of
eighty-eight in favour of Reform. See how different the thing
is here, and I have often said the same thing in the House of
Commons. I have often said to those gentlemen who took an
active part two years ago, in stirring the people up in their
resistance to the House of Lords—l have said if you think it
desirable to reform the House of Lords by external lower,
appeal to external power ; but if you think it ought to
be reformed through the only agency known to the
Constitution—the House of Commons, you must get the
people to return such a majority to the House of Com-
mons as the House of Lords shall not dare to resist.
Sir Robert Peel, one of the ablest and most crafty of men—
what was the meaning of the advice lie gave to the Conserva-
tive body ? Why, he said the great battle of the Constitution
must be fought in the House and at the registry—register,
register, register. —( Cheers.) That is, make votes.—( Cheers. )
Pay rates for parties when they cannot pay them them-
selves. have no footmen, no coachman, no butler, in short, have
no person about you who is not a 40s. freeholder.—( Cheers.)
Such is the advice of Sir Robert Peel. Crowd the registra-
tions of your counties and towns, so as to stifle all pretext in
the House of Lords.—( Cheers.) If the Whigs and the To-
ries, and they are one and the same, combine, who can
escape them?—( Cheers.) Suppose the constituencies of Eng-
land, and there are many of them far larger than the humble
constituencies of Canada—they are not talking cf the Ballot,
they have got it ; they are not talking of Triennial Parlia-
ments, for they have shorter itiarliaments than we
have here • but they have manfully stepped for-
ward, and shown such a phalanx to the House of Com-
mons there, as completely to put an end to all
controversy. Suppose the Ministers of England doubt-
ful of lingering out their existence to the next quarter-day—
( Laughter)—suppose, if instead of having such a majority as
I have stated of the Lords—suppose that by wholesome regu-
lations they had a large majority, and the Lords had chosen to
do what the Elective Assembly of Lower Canada did,
reject Bill after Bill—( Hear, hear, hear)—l ask you
what way would the people of England have dealt with
such obstructions ?—( Cheers.) My own opinion is this, that
the House of Lords, containing as it does many men of modern
growth, and consequently men that cannot be ignorant of the
feelings and desires of the independent portion of the com-
munity, though they may be indisposed to repeated changes,
yet what they suppose the just wishes of the people expressed
through their representatives, though they may oppose that
'once or twice, there is no wholesome measure which they
would not adopt.—( Cheers.) If lam overrating their libe-
rality, or taxing too high their sense of prudence, what will
then the people of this country do ? I will not say what they
ought to do—(Cheers)—but I will say this, they will not
submit to domination attended with such fatal consequences.
Cheering.) Whether it be to advise you with respect
to your rights or those of my fellow-citizens at large—whether
it be to stand up in my place, in the place in which you have
so honourably put me, to state my opinions against bad
measures or to support good ones—whether it be to step
forward and take my situation among my fellow-citizens, to
give you my counsel or advice, depend upon it that in all
things you may rely upon me.—( Tremendous cheers, which
lasted for some minutes.) I now wish, Sir, to make
a motion, in which I am satisfied that every gentleman
present will readily concur. It is to express our thanks
to you, Sir, as the High Bailiff of this Borough, for the
prompt manner in wlich you answered the call of your
fellow-citizens to convene the present meeting, and for the
impartiali!y which you have exercised upon this and all other
occasions.—( Cheers.) lam persuaded, and I hope, that
your example will be long continued among us, and that it will
be useful to others as well as to ourselves. Sir, I propose the
thanks of this Meeting to the High Bailiff for his able and im-
partial conduct in the Chair.—( Cheers.)
The petitions were then read and agreed to.
Thanks were then voted to the Chairman.
The Ilion BAILIFF returned thanks, and the meeting sepa-
rated shortly before five o'clock.

PEDESTRIANISM EXTRAORDINARY.—N. Bri-
ton's man started on Monday, at twenty- five minutes past nice,
to walk forty miles in eight successive hours, half the distance
backwards. A vast number of persons assembled to witness
the performance, which eclipses anything ever before at-
tempted. The pedestrian accomplished the task at twenty-
four minutes past five, one minute within the given time : he
appeared much distressed. The following is a statement of
his time :

lat two miles 19i minutes. 11th two miles 29 minutee.i
2d ditto 20i " 12th ditto 20 "
3d ditto 22 " 13th ditto 22- ‘i
4th ditto 21i " 14th ditto 23 "
sth ditto 22i " 15th ditto 24i "
6th ditto 23} " 16th ditto 24 "
7th ditto 24 " 17th ditto 27i "
Bth ditto 26 `` 18th ditto 27 "
9th ditto 201 " 19th ditto 243- "
10th ditto 25 " 20th ditto 25i "

At starting betting was 5 to 4 on time, but at the conclusion
of the Bth mile it was reduced to level betting ; in this state it
continued until the 30th mile, when 5 to 3 on the pedestrian
was offered, and freely taken. As he exhibited symptoms of
distress at the conclusion of the 36th, a Noble Lord concluded
a bet of ;100/. to 101. that he accomplished his undertaking:
within the given time, and afterwards rode the last two miles 4
cheering the pedestrian on to victory. The pedestrian never i
halted to take refreshment during the match. It is supposed 1
that upwards of 1,0001. has exchanged hands on the occasion. 1
A MAN IN MINIATURE.—The Constitutionnel ,
I
of Sunday last has an amusing notice of a dwarf named _Ma-,
Gallia, who is at present exciting the curiosity of oar
mercurial neighbours. This honzme miniature is only 34 `,
inches in height, but according to the writer his mind is vast ;'''
he is endowed with every possible physical advantage, whilst
his mental faculties are of an order so high that but few men.,
however splendidly gifted, can bear a comparison with this
extraordinary creature. He, of course, has received a highly #
finished education, and he is a wit of the first water. A lady
the other day addressing him, said, " Sir, you are a pretty lie
of nature." (Vous etes, Monsieur, un job mensonge de la
nature.) The wit immediately replied, " And you, Madam,
are its most beautiful truth."

On the morning of Tuesday last, about one o'clock,
the retreat (called Brookman-lodge, Surrey) of Captain
Morris, the venerable and well-known bard, now in his ninety-
second year, was attempted by some villains to be entered ;
they were defeated in the accomplishment of their purpose by
the violent barking of a small house-dog, which alarming the
son and daughter (Colonel and Mrs. Morris) of the above
gentleman, they arose from their bed, and listened in the
passages leading to the different apArtments, but all was silent,
and they returned to their room, and until the morning heard
nothing more to confirm their alarm ; but when the servants
rose, they found an entrance through the kitchen door bad
nearly been effected by means of a centre-hit, but which, for-
tunately, was frustrated by the little four-footed guardian. A
fine Newfoundland dog, which is always let loose at night. was
by some means silenced. This is the second attempt made to
disturb the tranquillity of the aged possessor in his favourite
retirement.

The death of Pascoe Grenfell has thrown a gloom
over the very large circle of his acquaintance, which comprised
many of the higher families in fashionable life. His loss is
also deeply regretted by many of the commercial world. Mr.
Grenfell was Gouernor of the Royal Exchange Assurance-
office, and was one of the first apprised of the dei;iruction of
the Exchange. The news had a visible effect upon bim, for
the Company was his " hobby ;" in a few days he was attacked
with paralysis, and death has put an end to a useful, well-spent
life. Mr. Grenfell married a sister of Lady Riversdale, and
has left a large family, many of them now themselves prorni-
wnt members of society.

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BIRTHS.
On the 27th ult., in Manchester-street, Manchester-square, Mrs.
J. B. Chatterton, of a son.
On the 29th ult., at North Church, Herts, the lady of A. P.
Cooper, Esq., of a son.

MARRIED.
On Wednesday, January 31st, at St. Mary's, Paddington, by tilt,
Rev. W. H. BrookfiQld, M. A. Chaplain to the Right Hon. Lord
Lyttleton, John Bullar, Esq., barrister-at-law, to Rosa, only
daughter of Andrew Tucker Follett, Esq., of the Manor House,
Paddington.

DIED.
On the With ult., Daniel Melhado, Esq., of Guildford. street, for
merly of Kingston, Jamaica, aged 60.
On the 25th ult., at Dunstable, Bedfordshire, William Swindell,
Esq., aged 30.

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