The Sun.
London, England, 1853-04-16 00:00:00

T YNEMOUTH ELECTION.

Sir B. HALL brought up the report of this commit-
tree appointed to try and determine the Tynemouth
Election Committee, declaring the member to be un-
seated on the ground of bribery and treating. The hon.
member gave notice that on a future day he should
move an address to the Crown for a commission of en-
quiry into the state of the borough.

NOTICES OF MOTION.
Lord D. STUART gave notice that on the first open
day he should move that the Attorney-General be di-
rected to prosecute all agents who had acted in all cases
where the member had been unseated on the ground of
bribery.

HOP DUTIES.
In reply to Mr. M. SMITH,
Mr. WILSON said the returns of the acreage of hops
in Kent had been found to be incorrect, but the Govern-
ment could not be held responsible for the mistake, be.
cause the returns were dependent upon those of the
parish officers. In one case the return had been made
six acres, whereas it ought to have been eighty and
three quarters. Great difficulty was experienced in ob-
taining correct returns owing to the desire of the growers
to keep them as low as possible.
THE CHARGE AGAINST M. KOSSUTH.
Sir J. WALMSLEY—Sir, I rise for the purpose of
asking a question of the noble lord the Secretary for the
Home Department, with reference to an illustrious
exile, now resident in this country, and whom, I am
sure, it will be the wish both of this house and the coun-
try to protect, as long as he conducts himself in con-
formity with the laws of the land. (Hear, hear.) lam
induced' to ask this question in consequence of tho state-
ment which I find in a leading journal of this morning,
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and which is to the following effect :
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tpssototaa:stetWebtte fsfhoetoaraibtn.
lsoc:hagmvulibeeebsnseieovnnaetgal:uskeeolynf
preferred against M. Kossuth and his adherents. Upon
this legal information a house in the occupation of M.
Kossuth was searched yesterday morning at an early hour
by the competent authorities, acting, we presume, under
the Secretary of State's warrant, and the result of this in-
vestigation was the discovery of a largo store of arms,
ammunition, and materials of war, which may be the stock
in trade of a political incendiary, but certainly form no
part of the household goods of a private gentleman living
in pacific retirement."
The question I have to ank of the noble lord is, whether
there is any and what foundation for this statement as
respects M. Louis Kossuth. Also, whether her Ma-
jesty's Government have given any assurance to the
Government of Austria or of any other foreign powers
in respect to the surveillance of political refugees in
this country ? And perhaps it may be for the con-
venience of the house if the Secretary of the Trea-
sury will permit me to move that this house at its
rising, do adjourn till Monday next. (Cheers, and loud
laughter.)
Lord PALMERSTON— Sir, lam not going to second
the motion of the hon. gentleman—(laughter)—though
it is very obvious for what reasons that motion is made
(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) But I shall confine myself
to answering his question just the same as if no motion
were made, and I had rose simply to answer the ques-
tion he has put to me. The facts are these, that infoi -
mation having been received that there were in a house

I' somewhere near Rotherhithe—not in a house occupied
by M. Kossuth—(hear, hear)—a quantity of warlike
stores, and especially a larger quantity of gunpowder
than was permitted by law to be held even by dealers
in that article, a search-warrant was issued in the ordi-
nary course by a magistrate to the police, and that
house was entered yesterday, and in that house were
found upwards of 70 cases, closely packed, and intended
apparently for transmission to some distance, containing
several thousand war rockets, such rockets as are used,
not at Vauxhall—(loud laughter)—but for the purposes
of war. There were also found a considerble number of
rockets in various stages of preparation, and iron cases
which usually contain inflammatory matter. There
were also found 2,000 shells (not as yet loaded), a very
considerable qaantity of the composition with which
rockets are filled, and 5001 b. of gunpowder. These
things were seized by the police. To whom they be-
longed, and who were employed in making them, are
questions which of course the house will not expect me
in the present stage of the matter to enter upon. (Hear,
hear.) These will be questions for future consideration,
and I think the house will agree that a Secretary of State
having been informed that there was reason to believe
that such an immense quantity of warlike stores was to be
found in a private dwelling, was justified in adopting the
steps which I did for the purpose of taking possession of
these arms, and founding thereupon any subsequent pro-
ceedings which the law advisers of the Crown, whom we
shall have to consult, may think there is ground tor in-
stituting. (Hear.) I can assure my hon. friend that he is
entirely mistaken in supposing that her Majesty's Go-
vernment are acting upon any pledge, promise, or engage-
ment given to any foreign government, except those
promises and pledges which were given in the face mof
Parliament—namely, that we should enforce to the ut-
most the laws of the country, and take care that the
shelter which I trust will always be given to foreign
exiles, let them come here from any political cause
whatever, is not abused for the purpose of organising
or carrying on hostile schemes against foreign powers.
(Cheers.)

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE.—I am afraid that the state
went of the noble lord is very much calculated to alarm,
not only this house, but the public generally. (Hear.)
Now, I wish to ask the noble lord another question.
As to those things which have been found at Rather-
hithe, does not the government know that this has been
a sort of manufactory for rockets during the last six
years, and that, after all, it was no house at alf—for I
have made enquiry—where these rockets were found ?
(Hear, hear.) The state of the case is this, that with
regard to M. Kossuth the whole statement of the Times
appears to be a perfect fabrication. (Cheers.) And at
Rotherhithe, as I believe, a most illegal proceeding has
taken place, a proceeding which will require explanation
' at the hands of the government, not only there, but in
the courts of law. (Cheers.) It happens that there is
a certain gentleman of the name of Hale, and also ano-
ther gentleman, of whom this house has often heard,
I mean, Captain Warner. (Hear and a laugh.) Now,
these gentlemen arc rivals in the same line of business ;
but Mr. Hale is the most successful rival of the two.
And does the noble lord mean to say that he does not
know that six years ago Mr. Hale took out a patent for
the manufacture of this sort of war•rockets—that he has
offered it over and over again to the Government—that
the sale of those rockets has been going on to foreign
governments for the last six years—that Deninank,
Prussia, and other powers of Europe have purchased
rockets from Mr. Hale at his factory—that he has
latterly been manufacturing large quantities—that
he has had an order lately from Cuba, as I under-
stand—and that very recently, within these last
few months, he has offered to the Government the
whole of his present stock of rockets, which they refused
just as they refused to take Captain Warner's stock?
(Laughter.) I remember, on ono occasion, when a
noble lord (Lord Ingestrie) was a member of this house,
and a great advocate of Captain Warner, he took me
with him to see Captain Warner's instrumenytsouo finwi
gairi
t.
And where were they ? In Lord Salisbury's house in
Arlington-street. (Roars of laughter.) Why
as well have gone with a warrant and searched for those
instruments of war at Lord Salisbury's house in Arling-
ton-street as have done what you have on this occasion.
(Hear, hear.) Now lam informed by a relation of Mr.
Hale that not one ounce of gunpowder has been found
—that nothing has been found but those rockets
have been offered over and over
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premises are kept for the a private house at all. The
Their being so kept has a w rpay rose been of this manufacture.
neighbourhood • and Mr. s notorious in the
and was sent for
the mo Hale himself lives at Chelsea,
ment the ce ave on the premises. I believe, then, that apoli very illegal act has
been committed by the
police—not
by the Secretary of
State's warrant • , and now they are trying to ride off, on