The Sun.
London, England, 1854-08-01 00:00:00

BANKRUPTS.

William Makin the younger, provision dealer, Man-
chester, to surrender August 14 and September 4, at
twelve, at the Manchester District Court. Fraser, official
assignee, Manchester ; Hall and Janion, Manchester ; or
Bower and Son, Chancery-lane, London.
John Selhck, paper maker. Cbapps Mills, Wiltshire,
August 14 and September 12, at eleven, at the Bristol
District Court. Acraman, official assignee, Bristol;
Crosby, Bristol ; or Jay, Serjeant's-inn, London.
Henry Swire and John Lockwood, manufacturers,
`.,hipley, Aug. 15, at twelve, and Sept. 12, at eleven, at the
Leeds District Court. Hope, official assignee, Leeds ;
Rawson, George, and Wade, Bradford ; Bond and Bar-
wick, Leeds.

Joseph Smithson, corn miller, West Mills, Yorkshire,
Aug. 25, and Sept. 12, at twelve, at the Leeds District
Court. Hope, official assignee, Leeds ; Stocks, Franklin,
and Jervis, Halifax ; Bond and Barwick, Leeds.
Peter Taylor, millwright, engineer, and tool-maker,
Manchester, Aug. 15 and Sept. 5, at twelve, at the Man-
chester District Court. Pott, official assignee, Manchester ;
Gartside, Manchester.

Hugh Hart, timber merchant, Hulme, Lancaster Aug.
22 and Sept. 12, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court.
Fraser, official assignee, Manchester ; Blair, Manchester.
Simon Stow Hitchcock, malster, Blackmore, Essex,
Aug. 14, and Sept. 8, at twelve, at the Court of Bank-
ruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-street ;
Lawrence, Plows, and Boyer, Old Jewry.
George Howes, licensed victualler, Singsland, Aug. 10,
at one, and Sept. 8, at half-past eleven, at the Court of
Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-
street ; Crouch, Gray's-in-square.
Thomas Robinson, currier, Hexham, August 9, at half-
past eleven, and September 13, at twelve, at the New-
castle-upon-Tyne District Court. Biker, official assignee,
Newcastle-upon-Tyne ; Welford, Newcastle-upon-Tyne ;
Harle, Bush, and Gaskell, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Henry Brownentt, merchant, Liverpool, August 11, and
September 1, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court.
Turner, official assignee, Liverpool; Cornthwaite, London;
Pemberton' Liverpool.
William Atherton, merchant, Liverpool, Aug. 14, and
Sept. 5, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Mor-
gan, official assignee, Liverpool ; Avison and Pritt, Liver-
pool.
Frederick Smith, miller, Standon, Herts, Aug. 14, at
two, and Sept. 7, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Canaan, official assignee, Aldermanbnry • J. and C. Cole,
Adelphi-terrace ; E. and E. Foster, Cambridge.
Cornelius Gibbs, tailor, Thorndon, Suffolk, Aug. 14, at
half-past one, and Sept. 8, at half-past twelve, at the
Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Ban-
inghall-street - C. P. Utton, Cheapside.
William Matthews, builder, Paddington. August 9, at
two, and September 9, at twelve, at the Court of Bank-
ruptcy. Lee, official assignee, Illoorgate-street ; Lee and
Pemberton, Lincoln's-inn-fields.
Samuel Zigury, merchant, Callum-street, City, August
15, at one, and September 9, at one, at the Court of Bank-
ruptcy. Lee, official assignee, Moorgate-street ; Sole, Tur-
ner and Turner, Alderman bury.
SCOTCH ,EQ UESTRATIONTS.
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Robert riarniltoo, Signet-hail keeper, Edinburgh.
Alexander Turnbull, miller, Glasgow.
Anderson and Murphy, sewed muslin manufacturers,
Glasgow.
James Somerville, hosier, Glasgow.

James Dunlop, (lariqr

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.

(From the London New Price Current of this day.)

SUGAR.—There have been but few purchases of foreign
either for shipment or the home trade; but the holders
are not disposed to sell under last week's quotations. The
quantity of British Plantation landed last week at the
East and West India Docks was 1,73" hh.ls 241 tierces
514 barrels. There were taken for home consumption
1,136 hhds 103 tierces 217 barrels. The stock in the same
places is 9,326 hhds 1,598 tierces 3,131 barrels. The stocks
in London are larger than at this time last year. Refined
has been well supported, with a limited supply. Brown
lumps 44s 6d, anti low to fine grocery 45s to 495.
To-day there was a fair demand for British plantation
sugar from grocers and refiners; the rates obtained were
equal to those of Friday for both brown, yellow, and grey.
COFFEE. -The demand has been for native Ceylon at
full rates, and Plantation is taken both for home use and
exportation.
RlM—The quantity landed last week at the East and
West India Docks was 957 puns 185 Wills. There were
taken for home consumption 268 puns 62 hhds, and ex-
ported 320 puns 94 hhds. The stock in the same places
is 9,063 puns 3,395 hhds.
COTTON.—The market is firm, with fair sales.
CINNAMON.—At the quarterly sales buyers do not act
at all freely.

TEA.—there is no alteration, but a fair business has
been done both in black and green.
TALLOW.—Not much is doing, as the trade are busy
with the deliveries.

TALLOW.—There is a firm market for Russian, and a
larger demand exists from consumers and speculators.
Prices rule for first sort P.Y. C. on the spot at 65s 6d to
G6s. and delivery in last three monts of the year at 68s to
68s 6d per cwt. Home melted sells freely, and cannot be
obtained under 65s cash although there is a fair supply. Of
other sorts the quantity on offer is not ample for demand,
and the prices paid were for Australian, fair to fine mut-
ton 61s to 66s 6d, Beef 60s to 645, and 50u,12 American 60s to
66s 6d per cwt. Stock of tallow is more than last season
by 14,030 casks ; and deliveries are 4,000 less ; rates rule
higher by lls to 12s per cwt. For auction on Friday 600
casks of tallow are declared.
OlLS.—There are few buyers of seal, and prices have a
downward tendency—pale selling at 391 to 401, and other
sorts 351 to 381 lOs. In Cod little doing, and 381 lOs to 391
accepted. Demand is not better for Sperm, and there are
sellers of mid to fine quality at 1021 to 103110 s. In Southern
larger operations at 381 to 40/. Of Palm many trans-
tions have taken place, and mid to fine quality realised 45s
to 48s. Cocoa nut in good request—Cochin landed at 49s
Gil to 50s, and other sorts 45s to 495. Olive sells readily—
Gallipoli at 571, and other sorts stl to 551 per tun. Prices
are again depressed for linseed oil, 34s 6d to 35s having been
accepted for present delivery ; there is now, however, a
good demand. In lard oil larger operations at 53s to 555.
Several buyers of spermaceti at is 3d to is 4d.
REFINED.—To-day Refined Sugar was operated in with
caution for home trade purposes, and rates are less firm—
bruwn lumps selling at 445, and low to fine grocery 44s 6d
to 495.
COURSE OF EXCHANGE—THIS DAY.

Amsterdam .. .. . • • • • • •
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Brussels .• •• •••••• • • ' • 2 '4..l'. 43%
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Paris • • .... .„
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Ditto. three months ••25 30 i Lisbon •••••••• • • • • • • • • .7:4
Marseilles. ..... • . .. 1:5 30 Oporto .. ••••••• • • • • ' • • _
Bourdeaux .. ~ „ Rio Janeiro ........ •• • •
Berlin „, ...„ „ ..... , „
Frankfort-on-Mai-12a .... 118 % Buenos Ayres .. .... •• • •
Vienna .. •• . ...... ..... 12 28 Philafielahla .•••• • • • • •
Trieste ...... z
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~ 36 14 Yew York, 60 days' sight
•• •• •••• •• 12 30 PRICES OF BULLION, PER 0 .
rrid .... ....... ..... 49ik Portugal Go'd Coin .. 0. II o
Foreign Gold in Bars £3 17 9
11412 ••..• • .. ...... .... 50
Barcelona Mexican Dollars .... 0 0 0
devil I" New Dollars ~.... 0 0 '
••••• • •• •• -Inver in bars - -
n 5 'l%

TRES FOR 1854.
UST.

Egham l5
Folkestone, Hythe, and
Sandgate l7
York .. .... 23
Hereford 24
Eccles ... . ............... 2B
Chelmsford 29
Derby .......... . 29
Plymouth 3F
Lincoln 3l
;FIBER.

Leicester 2O
Manchester Autumn 2l
Lanark 25
Newmarket F 0 26
Walsall
Northallerton 2B

,BER.
Caledonian Hunt 11
Warwick Autumn 17
Richmond 18
Newmarket H 23
Worcester Autumn 31

E:vIPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS-(YESTERDAY.)

The house met at five o'clock.

The royal assent was given by commission to the fol-
lowing bills : —Highway Rates ; Turnpike Trusts Arrange-
em ants ; General Board of Health ; Registration of Bills
of Sale (reland) ; Jamaica Loan ; Sheriff and Sheriff-clerk
of Chancery (Scotland) ; Joint-stock Banks (Scotland) ;
Cruelty to Animals ; Portland, &c., Chapels ; Returning
Officers ' • Turnpike Acts Continuance 2 • Jury Trial (Scot-
land) ; Friendly Societies (No. 2); Royal Military
Asylum ; Poor-law Commission Continuance (Ireland) ;
Heritable Securities (Scotland) ; Borough Rates ;
Eccle-
siastical Jurisdiction ; Stock in-Trade Exemption ; Com-
mon, &c., Rights (Ordnance) ; Land Revenues of the
Crown (Ireland ; Highways (Public Health) Act ; Public
Libraries ; Ambergate, Nottingham, and Boston and
Eastern Junction Railway (Working Arrangements with
Great Northern Railway) ; North Shields Quays and Im-
provements ; Selkirk and Galashiels Railway ; Stock-
port, Disley, and Whaley-bridge Railway • London and
North-western Railway ; Great. Western Railway (Berks
and Hants, &c.) ; Eiectric Telegraph Company (No. 2);
West London Railway ; Westminster Terminus Railway ;
Cork and Waterford Railway ' • Oxford, Worcester, and
Wolverhampton Railway (Stratford-upon-Avon and
Stourbridge Branches); Oxford, Worcester, and Wolver-
hampton Railway (Chipping Norton Branch; Portsmouh
and Direct London and Portsmouth Railways ; West
London and Crystal Palace Railway (Bromley and Farn-
borough • York, Newcastle, and Berwick, York and
North Midland, and Leeds Northern Railway Companies
Amalgamation ; Border Counties Railway ; &del& Gas
Company Relief ; Stockport Rectory Division ; Merton
College Estate ; Wilkinson's Estate ; Mitford's Estate ;
Earl of Fife (Trustees) Estate ; Stainforth's Estate ;
Stirling's Estate ; Milbank IThornhill's) Estate ; Saint
Catherine's Parish (Dublin) School and Charity Estates
Bill ; Caton's Divorce.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—(YESTERDAY.)
IRISH INDUSTRY.
On the motion that the Speaker leave the chair, to go
into Committee of Supply— -
Mr. LUCAS called the attention of the, house to the
propriety of instituting an inquiry into the best means of
promoting Irish manufacturing industry, by training or
apprenticeship schools, and other similar establishments.
After remarking that nothing had been effected daring the
present session towards the relief of Irish grievances, and
that, as admitted by Lord John Russell, there was no pro-
spect of a settlement of the land question, he contended
that it was a misrepresentation to allege that Ireland was
in a prosperous condition. The annual number of births
barely balanced that of the deaths, while a continuous
drain of emigration was depopulating the country, and
unless some means were devised to arrest this influx, it
was the opinion of the authorities on the subject that it
would proceed. Emigrants were remitting large sums to
enable their Irish relatives to join them ; and since the
year 1848 such remittances had increased from half a mil-
lion to a million and a half annually, and such was likely
to be the future rate of increase. The remedy he pro-
posed was suggested in his notice on the paper, and he
entered into interesting details to show how the establish.
ments in question worked iu Belgium
Lord J. RUSSELL vindicated the Government and
the legislature from the censures pronounced by Mr. Lucas,
both on account of what they had done and of what they
had abstained from doing. With regard to the suggested
establishment of industrial schools, he submitted that no
case had been made for deviating, on behalf of Ireland,
from the course pursued in this country for the promotion
of industrial education.
Mr. JAMES MACGREGOR disputed the position
which the hon. member had taken up, because in all the
countries he had mentioned manufacturing prosperity had
depended more upon private enterprise than State support.
For instance, in Switzerland and Belgium manufacturing
industry had originated with the people themselves; and
he should be sorry if the delusion went over to Ireland
that manufacturing prosperity depended upon state sup-
port rather than the exertions of the people. (Cheers.)
Mr. J. BALL said the statement of the noble lord with
regard to Tuscany could not apply to that country within
the last few years.
Lord J. RUSSELL explained that his statement ap-
plied to the former ages, and not to recent times.
SUPPLY.
The SPEAKER then put the question that he should
leave the ch .ir, and the house immediately resolved itself
in committee of supply.
On a vote of 2,0551. for reinstating the chapel of the
Embassy at Constantinople,
Sir J. WALMS LE f asked Va. explanation.
Mr. WILSON said, about six or seven years ago the
chapel was accidentally burned down, and, owing to the
extravagant expenditure lavished on the building of the
embassy-house, had not been rebuilt. Two or three years
ago a vote was proposed of 4,3501. for the purpose, but was
then withdrawn, in consequence of the lavish expenditure
to which he had alluded. Strong representations of the
inconvenience felt by the British residents had been made
to the ambassador, and even offers to contribute 1,0001.
though their numbers were small. The arrangements now
made were such that the house would not be called upon
for more than the sum now proposed. The want of ac-
commodation where a large number of sailors resorted, be-
sides the residents, had been severely felt, and he hoped,
therefore, the committee would assent to the vote.
In reply to a question by Mr. WILLIAMS,
Mr. WILSON said an architect from the Board of Works
would go out to superintend the building, but he would
be under the control and direction of the ambassador.
In reply to Mr. SPOONER,
Mr. WILSON said the architect was not the same gen-
tleman who superintended the erection of the embassy-
house. The arrangements then were very imperfect, as
that gentleman was not responsible to any one on the spot.
The vote was then agreed to.
On the vote of 1,4001. to defray the expenses of erect-
ing an enclosure wall and entrance gateway, and the ne-
cessary buildings, to a British Protestant cemetery at
Madrid,
Mr. AYSHFORD WISE expressed an opinion that the
vote required some explanation, inasmuch as the conditions
disclosed in the last published correspondence, as those
upon which alone the Spanish Government would consent
to this cemetery being established, were most unsatisfac-
tory, and had been justly described as wholly inconsistent
with the liberal spirit of the age. It appeared that this
question had been more or less before the public for
nearly half a century, and as long ago as the year 1796 a
piece of land, inters ied to be appropriated for cemetery
purposes, had been purchased by the Marquis of Bute.
He could not see why Parliament should be called upon
to vote so large a Pura as 1,4001. for such a purpose. Lord
Palmerston, in 1850, had asked for a return of the number
of British subjects who had died within a given period at
Madrid, and had pointed out to Lord Howden that upon
the facts disclosed by that return must depend the ques-
tion as to whether the Government would be justified in
expending any very large sum of money in establishing a
cemetery there. Lord Howden at that time, in answer to
Lord Palmerston'a request, had stated, on the authority of
Mr. Otway, that the number of British subjects who had
died at Madrid from the year 1831 had been only from
Mee.) to twenty—not more than one a year. And it ap-
peared that, in some cases at least, the interments had
been permitted to take place in the Catholic cemeteries.
He could not understand why all the Protestant powers
—America, and Prussia, and Holland, and other Protes-
tant States, whose subjects came, as well as those of
Great Britain, to Madrid—should not support unitedly; an
object of this kind. Nor could he conceive that it was ne-
cessary to have sent out a man of Mr. Albano's reputatian
and experience as an architect to superintend so trifling a
matter as the erection of a wall round a cemetery. That
such a course should have been taken seemed to him to
show an itching to expend the public money ; and as
charges of this description were continually increasing upon
' the estimates, he had thought it right to direct attention
to the subject.
Mr. PELLATT wished to know whether the land was
intended to be consecrated by a bishop of the Church of
England? whether the chaplain of the embasssy was to be
the minister there ? whether the bodies of dissenters would
be received there for interment? and whether this would
extend to the child of a Baptist who might not have re-
ceived even lay baptism?
Mr. WILSON said since the date of the correspondence
to which the hon. member had referred, Lord Howden had
succeeded in obtaining terms which were considered ex-
tremely satisfactory, and in removing all the obstacles
which had been thought to stand in the way of adopting
the earlier proposition. The hon. gentleman would recol-
lect that about a year ago there was a perfect fever of in-
dignation upon the subject, and that the strongest possible
feeling ran through the metropolitan press and the press of
the country generally with respect to the way in which
Protestants were treated by the Spanish Government, in
reference to their burial ground. The public were especially
shocked by a statement that the body of an Englishmen
had been dug up for the purpose of robbing it of the
clothes and other articles of trifling value which were upon
it. And it was under the pressure of these circumstances,
and of the strong feeling of indignation which was excited
by them, that arenewed effort had been made, which had re-
sulted, as he had said, in the obtaining of terms which were
considered satisfactory, and in securing a piece of land in
the only place in the neighbourhood of the town of Madrid
in which it could have been procured for such a purpose.
The consul general upon the spot had endeavoured to in-
duce the British residents to subscribe some portion of the
expense ; but they were few in number, and in a compara-
tively humble position in life, and it would therefore have
been utterly impracticable to obtain from them any con-
siderable sum. It therefore became a question whether
the British Government should not take steps to remove
the flagrant abuse which had been made a matter of charge
against every person concerned in the administration of
British affairs iu Spain. The Government had felt it its
duty to take such steps, and to take advantage of the op-
portunity which had presented itself for putting an end to
this state of things ; and the proposition. which had been
submitted to the Treasury, for closing the ground and
adapting it to its intended purpose, had been forwarded
by them to the Board of Works, the chief commissioner of
which, his right hon. friend near him would, he was sure,
give an explanation with respect to the way in which it
could be carried out, which ought to be satisfactory to the
house.
Mr. A. PELLATT—As to the consecration ?
Mr. WILSON said the cemetery would be consecrated
by a Protestant bishop, and arrangements had been made
by which it would be open to all British subjects.
Sir W. MOLES WORTH said the plans submitted to
the Board of Works by the Treasury were so unsatisfactory,
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Mr. EWART expressed his cordial approval of the ob-
ject, but expressed a hope that the Government would
endeavour to make some arrangements by which the public
might have admission into the abbey, which was so essen-
tially a national building, and the monuments in which
were of so essentially national a character, without the
payment of any feee.
Sir W. MOLESWORTH said he had already directed
his attention to the subject, and had inquired why any fee
was taken ; and he had been told that its object was to
provide for the
payment of thepersons who were employed
in showing the monuments. It was important that no
p
person should' be permitted to go round without being at-
tended by people by whom they might be carefully

watched, the fact being that the monuments had suffered
much more from the petty pilleriugs of the last century
than during the whole of the centuries precoeding. Mr.
Scott, in his able report, referred to the subject in the
following terms :—" As the monuments have suffered
fully as much from spoliation as from decay, it is of
the utmost importance that the vigilant watch kept
over them should not in any degree be relaxed; had
the present system been adopted a century earlier, the
atrocious pilfering and robbery, from which those invalu-
able works of art have so grievously suffered, would have
been in great measure prevented; for it is truly mor-
tifying to reflect that, though the church was exposed
during the great rebellion to the insults of the soldiery,
who were at one time quartered within its walls, and
though there was actually an order of Parliament (happily
never obeyed) for melting down the bronze, these monu-
ments actually suffered infinitely less during that turbu-
lent time than in the enlightened period intervening be-
tween the middle of the last century and our own day, and
that their greatest spoliation has been suffered at the hands
of that intelligent public, who, one would have imagined,
would have been the guardians rather than the pilferers
of our national monuments." If, therefore, no fee were to
be levied on the pubic seeing these monuments, it would
be necessary that Parliament should vote a sum of money
for the payment of persons to show them. If Parliament
were prepared to do that, he would ask the consent of the
Lords of the Treasury to such a vote being proposed ; and
he had no doubt that if a general feeling in its favour were
expressed, the Lords of the Treasury would acquiesce in it.
He hoped, however, that if this were to be done, hon.
gentlemen would bear it in mind hereafter, because, gene-
rally speaking, when estimates of this kind were proposed,
he found himself turned round upon and charged with
increasing the estimates, and told that these were matters
which the individuals and not the public ought to pay for.
Mr. M. MILNES expressed his great satisfaction at the
proposed restoration of the monuments; anti said it seemed
to him that the ground upon which a Parliamentary grant
fur such a purpose might be fairly asked fur was only to be
found in the fact that Westminster Abbey was our great
Pantheon—the depositoiT of the monuments, not merely
of our kings, bry, of our statesmen, our poets, and our men
of letters. Some years ago, when the poet Campbell died,
men high in station in the country had felt themselves
honoured in accompanying his bo ly to the grave. A sub-
scription for a fit men innent had been afterwards com-
mensed, and the appeal had been so fully responded to,
that a monument, which he believed to be worthy of the
man, had been now for so:: e time completed. It had only
not been completed, because the Dean and Chapter of
Westminster had asked the enormous sum of 2006. for a
few square feet of ground on which to set it up. (Hear,
hear.) Now, it the abbey of Westminster stood in this
rel •tion to the public, and if public monuments were not
to be admitted into it except in consideration of such
advantages, it could neither be the duty nor the interest
of Parliament to spend large sums of money in its decors-
ration, or Jul the restoration and repair of the monuments
already there. He trusted that the Government would
put themselves in communication with the Dean and
Chapter, and endeavour to remove this great scandal,
which, he felt, as an Englishman, was injurious to the
national character, and which was especially painful to
him as a Churchman, because he felt that matters of this
kind did more to injure the higher clergy of the English
Church than anything else could do.
Mr. JOHN BALL referred to certain pa ticulars con-
nected v;ith the proposed restoration, which persons who
were most. competent to judge—without wishing for a mo-
ment to cast any doubt un the ability or competency of
Mr. Scott—considere 1 to be inexpedient, both in an ar-
chaeological and artistic point of view. Hu hoped great
caution would be exercised, and the opinions of competent
persons taken on the subject.
Mr. BRADY bore testimony to the success which had
attended Mr. Scott's attempt at restoration in Ely Cathe-
dr I. He did not think Westminster Abbey was a fit recep-
tacle for the monuments of warm iors—they ought to erect a
building for their reception, and not ueseerate an edifice
dedicated to God. He would support any vote that would
allow the public to have free admission to the church.
Sir W. MOLES WORTH said the greater portion of the
abbey was already open to the public. It was necessary
to close the royal chapels, in order to stop the pilfering
which had done so much damage. He wished to say that
Mr. Scott's object was to preserve and not to renew the
monuments. With regard to the remark of the hon. mem-
ber for Pomfret (Mr. Milnes),.in relation to the statue of
the poet Campbell, he would immediately put himself in
communication with the Dean and Chapter on the subject,
and he had no doubt they would meet the views of the
house. (Hear, hear )
Mr. WILLIAMS thought that any sums paid for per-
mission to erect monuments ought to go towards the repairs
of the buildings.
Sir J. SHELLEY vindicated the public from the asper-
sion cast upon them. If confidence was placed in them
they would feel pride in the preservation of the objects
entrusted to them.
Mr. E WART wished that the monuments were placed
entirely under the control of Government.
The vote was then agreed to.
On the next vote of 1,000/. for repairing the pedestal
and restoring the statue of Charles I. at Charing-cross,
Sir W. MOLES WORTH said that last year an applica-
tion had been made by the Crystal Palace C nnpauy for
permission to take a cast. During the work he had an
opportunity of observing the condition of the statue, and
he found it in such a dilapidated state that he had re-
quested Mr. Westmacott to give him a report on the sub-
ject. The report entered at length into the condition of
the statue, and it could not be restored for a less sum
than that now asked.
Mr. WISE thought the vote might be postponed for the
present. He would not wish the statue to be destroyed,
as it was one of the finest works of Le Sueur ; but Cheri As
I. was a king celebrated only for his violation of public
rights, and his memory was not so dear to them.
Mr. DISRA.ELI reminded the hon. gentleman that
whatever opinion ne might have of the political character
of Charles 1., if he was a lover of the fine arts he must re-
vere his memory. He wished to call the attention of the
committee to the fact that this statue had once before dis-
appeared, in consequence, not of a vote, but of the temper
of the House of Commons. This—the chef d'oeuvre of Le
Sueur—was lost for a time. As it had been recovered, it
did not become the house to pass a vote which would again
endanger its existence. .
The vote was the❑ agreed to. 1
On the next vote of 13,0001. for the expense of collectiqg
agricultural statistics,
Mr. CARDWELL said that a limited number of coun-
ties had been taken at first, as there was some opposition
to the proceedings, but the operations of the commissioners
were being gradually extended.
Mr. E. DENISON hoped that the returns for England
would show the average crop per acre. It was given in
the Scotch return.

Mr. CARDWELL said the information would be given
for those counties in which the statistics had been taken
last year, but the commissioners could not give it for the
new counties.

The vote was then agreed to.
On the next vote, 6,0301. for repairing breaches at Spurn
Point, on the river Humber,
Lord HOTEL AA said he understood that a large portion
of this expense miget hove been avoided if there had been
any person in autlierity on the spot when the damage first
occurred ; but the Government agent resided at a distance,
and so much time was lost in communicating with him,
that a large amount of injury was den() before any steps
w
tthe future.
S
oreineily it, He hoped this would be guarded
ageariier token
J. G against for
forRAFIA-V1 said that a question had arisen as to
whether the Corporation of the Trinity House were not
bound to repair this breach, as it occurred in the imme-
diate vicinity of a lighthouse, but on consideration the
Admiralty decided they were not. A conservator for the
river Humber had been appointed, whose close and con-
stant attention would be given to the Subject.
The vote was then agreed to.
370/. for works at Kingston Ilar-
b°Oura the next vote, ie,
L
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readingo i it,hh the new
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had been ordered to ma' lee .a.
Pireelpf:ocrireitn'.lz:ti and
(ei they
bsellrieved be Wight say the present plan would
not be proceeded with,
for defraying the expense
On the next vote of te,gB9/.,
king ti:3gref'o the
heeh Somersetap- house,uuse ebYo the whichduchy
Sir W. MOLESWORTH said that On moving the third
to make an explaup„r
of Cornwall were now possessed of officeshe
y statement. As the committee were
had been consolidated at
they held under the act of the
15th Geo. 111., c. 33,
which vested Somerset-house in the
andsoua
Somerset
rt
sheetr.
house.offices.
thee ago the whole of the Inland t
Revenue Department
the increased accommodation required it was considered
advisable to obtain the offices now occupied by the duchy.
He had accordin 1
-4-3' been directed to put himself in coin-
ATo short
give
i v e
munication with the council on the subject. They stated
they were very
- well satisfied with their present offices,
but if the public service required it, they would give them
up on being provided with equally suitable offices to be
held on the same title. He then took steps to procure a
house for them. The first sugigestion was Buckingham-
house, Pall-mall, but he found 33.0301. was required for
its purchase, and it would take 5,0001. more to put it in
order, a much larger sum than he was prepared to give.
The next site suggested was the Irish Offices, in Birdcage-
walk, but on making inquiries he found that the proprie-
tors would not consent to part with the freehold. He then
proposed that the Duchy of Cornwall should occupy new
offices, to be built in the new street in Pimlico, and the
buildings in which it was proposed should be of a superior
class. Plans were seat iu, and approved of. Then came
the question of the comparative value between the old and
new offices. The Board of Works argued that, as the new
office would be of more value than the old office in So-
merset-house, the Duchy of Cornwall ought to pay a portion
of the expense. But the officers of the Duchy of Cornwall
contended on the other hand that, as they had no desire to
change, as they were very comfortable where they were,
and only consented to vacate their present offices for the
public convenience, it was not fair to call upon them to
pay a Portion of the expense. He could not deny that
there was much force in this argument. Then arose a
question of the comparative value of the two offices,
and it was proposed that valuers should be appointed
by the Board of works and the Duchy respectively, who
were, as soon as the new office was built, to determine the
relative value of that and the old office in Somerset-house,
and the difference of value, if any, on the new office over
the old one was to be divided into two equal parts, half of
which was to be pail by the Duchy and the other half by
the Government. As the office could nut be built for two
years the officers of the Duchy would be put to great
inconvenience. The right honourable gentleman then
urged that the value put on the old offices should be viewed
with reference to the accommedation given to the public,
and that on the whole the public could make a fair bargain
by the arrangement proposed. A request hail been made
to him to state the relative market value of the two pro-
perties ; but he thought it would be very unbusiness-like
when the matter Was about to be submitted to arbitration,
to enter into such details. An estimate had been made
by the architect of the Board or Works, and according to
that estimate the difference of the market value between
the two offices would be 4,3001., and of that half was to be
paid by the Duchy into the Consolidated Fund, and the
other half to be defrayed by the Government as a sort of
accommodation price. But the estimate of the architect
of the Duchy of Cornwall was entirely different, and loft
no surplus or difference between the value of the two
offices. If the committee should not sanction the vote, the
Duchy of Cornwall would be very glad to remain where it
was, but great public inconvenience would be caused in
corsequenee of the want of accommodation fur the Board
of Inland Revenue.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS suggested that the Duchy of
Cornwall office should be removed to the house formerly
occupie Iby the Irish office. He complained that a sum
of 4117,0001. including 150,0001., from the commissioners
of the Great Exhibition, had been appropriated for the
purchase of land, and the objects for which it was required
had never been stated.
Mr. DISRAELI explained that tho complaint which