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THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 2, 1853,

tier of Turkestan, with 4 battalions ; and that of Siberia
with 4 batteries, in all from 72,000 to 84,000 men and
288 pieces of cannon. The regular army of Russia,
therefore, consists of 30 divisions, or 120 regiments, of
infantry, and of 15 divisions, or 60 regiments, of cavalry;
and counts, at most, with the reserve and the depots,
628,000 men and 1,540 pieces of cannon, to which must
be added from 30,000 to 50,000 Cossacks of various de-
nominations, with their light artillery, as well as the in-
terior guard and the gendarmerie. Out of that number
there can really be disposed of in Europe only the active
army, the body-guards, the grenadiers, and the two re-
serve bodies of cavalry, in all 420,000 men, 72,000
horses, and 1,272 cannol—a considerable force certainly,
but not greater than others of the first-rate powers can
bring into the field in time of war."
Gen. Osten-Sacken, aide-de-camp to the Em-
peror of Russia, has just been named to the
command of the 3d corps d'armee, vice Gen. Offen-
berg, who is seriously ill.
The Emperor of Russia has promulgated the
following ukase :
"By the grace of God, we, Nicholas I, ordered by
our decree of the Ist (13th) August, 1834, that every
year levies of men should take place in certain parts of
the empire ; and now we decree : Ist. To complete the
army and the navy, and in conformity with a ukase con-
taining special enactments, addressed to the Directing
Senate, the tenth partial recruiting shall take place in
the eastern part of the empire, in the proportion of 7
men for 1,000, as was the case in 1852 in the western
part. 2dly. Independently of that, 3 men in 1,000
shall be levied in the governments of the eastern part of
the empire, to complete the 6 men in 1,000, which that
part supplied less than it ought to have done in pre-
c3ding reeruitings. 3dly. In the governments of
Psok, Witepsk, and Mohilew, which were exempted
by the decrees of the 31st October, 1845, and the
26th September, 1846, on account of the bad harvests
of 1846 and 1847, the levy of the complement of
1852 (3 men per 1,000) shall be proceeded to. With
respect to the Jews of Witepsk and Mohilew, the
levy shall be made in the same manner as on the Jews
of the other governments-10 men in 1,000, on the
basis of the regulations for recruiting. 4thly, The levy
shall commence on the Ist November, and terminate
on the Ist December. Given at St. Petersburg, the Bth
20th) July, 1853, and the 28th of our reign.
" NICHOLAS."
Two other ukases are also published ' • they fix the
details of the levies to be made. In virtue of
another ukase the odnodwures and inhabitants of
the governments of Kiew, Podolia, Wolhynia,
Minsk, Grodno, Wilna, and Kown, are also to
supply recruits.
The Ilamburgh Correspondent, under date of
St. Petersburg, 21st ult., says :—" The armaments
in the interior of the Empire continue without
interruption. The battalions of reserve of the 4th
corps of Infantry are concentrated near Tula. The
guard and the corps of Grenadiers still occupy the
positions in the camp, near Krasnoge Selo and near
Badost not far from Gotschino. The manoeuvres
of the two corps, which form an effective force of
100,000 men, still continue."
Count de Benkendorff, first aide-de-camp to the
Emperor of Russia, arrived at Frankfort on the
29th ult.

The .Augsburg Gazette quotes a letter from Rome,
of the 20th ult., in which it is stated that the poli-
tical conspiracies lately discovered at Bologni,Forli,
St. Arcangelo, Cento, and other places of Romagna,
had been all concocted in person by the ex-triumvir
of Rome, M. Aurelio Saffi, Mazzini's staunch friend.
The correspondent states, that at Rome people
shake their heads at Saffi's fool-hardiness in risking
his person within the grasp of the police, and are
generally surprised that he has not been arrested,
as his features are of remarkable and well-known
cast. Monsignor Matteucci has, however, sent
after him, calling upon the authorities to arrest
" Aurelio Saffi of Forli, a landholder and literary
man (possidente e letterato)" on a charge of high
treason.

A letter from Cetigne (Montenegro) states that
on the day of the patronal fete of the country,
there was a large assemblage of the inhabitants, at
which Prince Danillo made a speech relating to the
support that he had received from Austria, and
threatening to punish with great severity any one
guilty of offence against the persons or property of
Austrian subjects.

A letter from Damascus 26th June, says :—" The
fanaticism of the Turks both here and at Aleppo be-
comes every day more and more violent. The
Governor has convoked the Turkish and Christian
notabilities in order to impress upon them the duty
of concord. The Governor of Aleppo has arrested
30 of the most violent fanatics."

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'clock.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from
a public meeting in Sussex in favour of the repeal of
the malt and hop duties ; also, a petition from a place in
53otland in favour of the Public Houses (Scotland) Bill.
CONVERSION OF SOUTH SEA STOCK.
Lord ST. LEONARDS complained that the proposi-
tion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer with re-
spect to the Conversion of South Sea Stock, did
not give those facilities to suitors in the Court
of Chancery which they had a right to expect.
It was said that this measure was brought forward as a
fulfilment of a pledge that had been given to himself, but
it was no such thing, for instead of the measure being a
benefit to the suitors of the Court of Chancery or the
Court of Bankruptcy, he believed it would lead to end-
less litigation, and make the office of solicitor to either
court of more value by many thousands a year than it
had hitherto been.

The Earl of ABERDEEN promised to communicate
with his right hon. friend the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer on this subject, and if possible the noble and
learned lord's objections should be removed. (Hear,
hear.) lie had, however, maintained, and should
continue to maintain the position that their lordships
had no right to alter a money bill. It had never been
done since the time of the revolution, and their lord-
ships should pause before they consented to break
through the practice.
The LORD CHANCELLOR explained the course
which bad been taken by himself and the other authori-
ties of the Court of Chancery with regard to the stock
in question. As the matter now stood the partiesin-
terested in the stock would, at the proper time,
be entitled to the full amount of their money,
or the option of converting the present stock into a new
three-and-a-quarter per cent, stock.
After a few words from Lord ST. LEONARDS, the
subject dropped.
PARLIAMENTARY REFORM.
Lord BROUGHAM claimed the indulgence of their
ordships while he corrected a mistake which the re-
porters had fallen into. In what he said upon the elec-
tion bill he was said to have expressed a hope that the
Government would next session be ready with a large
measure of reform ; but the fact was he said no such
thing. What he did say was this, that while he ad-
mitted the necessity for some Parliamentary reform,
he expressed a hope that the measure which the
Government intended to bring forward would be a judi-
ciously framed and well-considered scheme for removing
the evils of the present system, and not large or exten-
sive in its scope.
CASE OF THE BARON DE BODE.
Lord LYNDHURST moved a resolution to the effect
that the claim of the Baron de Bode upon the English
Government, in respect of property confiscated by the
French revolutionary authorities, had been clearly estab-
lished, and recommended itself to the earnest considera-
tionof her Majesty's Government.

The LORD -CHANCELLOR entered into a history
of the case, urging particularly that, although the baron
was in point of law a British subject, he was practically,
and to all intents and purposes, a foreigner ; that the
property was confiscated as the property of a French
emigrant, and that the son of that emigrant, the present
baron, had been held by the lawful tribunal to save no
claim. Further, that the Privy Council, on being ap-
pealed to, had confirmed the decision ; and that the sur-
plus fund remaining after the satisfaction of the admitted
claims had been appropriated in what was judged to be
the most equitable manner. His lordship asked if those
decisions were to be set aside, where was the system to
stop—and why should not any other disappointed claim-
ant be heard over again ? The manner in which the
case was brought forward was altogether indefinite. If
their lordships believed the claim to be just, it was
their duty to pass an act for its satisfaction ; but
if " favourable consideration" meant fair consideration,
he could only say that the case had been already fairly
considered. His lordship believed that the claim had
been founded originally in error, and that at the pre-
sent time there was not only no legal claim, but that
there was no claim even for the equitable consideration
of the house.

Lord TRURO insisted that it would be a disgrace to
the country if their lordships rejected the claim.
Lord MONTEAGLE defended the administration of
the funds allotted for the compensation of all who had
suffered confiscation, and thought that the question
should not be re-opened ; but
Lord HARROWBY declared his opinion that no-
thing but the extent of the injustice prevented the ac-
knowledgment of the debt.
After some further discussion,
The Earl of ABERDEEN would only offer to the
house a very few words upon this question. His noble
and learned friend's motion was to recommend this case
to the favourable consideration of the Government ; but
what result did he expect ?
Lord LYNDHURST—I leave it to the noble lord
to say. _ _

The Earl of ABERDEEN must say, in the first
place, that he could not agree to that motion, because
he thought it one that it was incompetent for him to
deal with, and then, notwithstanding the great ability
of the noble and learned lord, he had failed in his speech
to establish the claim in justice of Baron de Bode, and
he must say that if this was a claim competent to be en-
tertained there was not a single rejected claimant who
had not a right to a hearing. (Hear, hear.) There
had been claims considered and rejected. The com-
missioners were a competent tribunal constituted

for that purpose, and the Privy Council was a compe-
tent tribunal to review the decision in the case. If ever
there was res acljudicata it was here. It was impos-
sible for the Government to lend itself to re-open a case
which every preceding Government deemed to be finally
and conclusively determined. After all, the committee,
to the appointment of which the house had, perhaps,
somewhat incautiously assented, made their report in
the month of June last, and he wanted to know why
his noble and learned friend did not take an opportunity
of applying to the noble lord then at the head of the
GovernMent, instead of writing a letter to him (the
Earl of Aberdeen) about the Baron de Bode ?
Lord LYNDHURST made an observation which was
inaudible.

The Earl of ABERDEEN was still of opinion that
his noble and learned friend would have done well
to apply to the then head of the Government, who was
known to have expressed an opinion favourable to
the Baron de Bode's claim when in the House of
Commons. When his noble and learned friend ap-
pealed to his (the Earl of Aberdeen's) mercy, he
seemed, in some respect, to abandon the strong ground
of justice assumed at the outset. If anything were
left to his discretion he would be happy to yield to the
suggestions of mercy, but he was afraid that in a case of
this kind justice must precede mercy, and he was bound
to declare he saw no reason for departing from the course
taken by preceding Governments. (Hear, hear.)
Lord LYNDHURST felt himself justified in appeal-

ing both to justice and mercy on-this occasion: It
was the case of an unfortunate gentleman who, after
struggling for many years against a combination of
almost every party, at last succeeded in satisfactorily
establishing every fact in dispute. His noble friend
had the power to dispense both justice and mercy ; but
he could not compel him to exercise it. The baron's
case was established, and it received no answer from the
noble and learned lord on the woolsack.

The LORD CHANCELLOR inquired whether a
division would be called for ?

Lord LYNDHURST.—Yes ; I will divide, if I stand
alone.

The house then divided ; the numbers were,—
Content 6
Noncontent l6
Majority —lo
In answer to a question from the Earl of HARROWBY,
The Duke of NEWCASTLE stated, that a code of

laws, mitigatory of the criminal system existing in Malta
(which was the same as prevailed in the time of the
Knights of Malta), had been sent over to this country.
It was, however, a printed copy, and was deficient in
the formalities which would authorise him to submit it
to her Majesty for approbation. In the event of a proper
copy arriving, he would not pledge himself not to submit
to her Majesty for approbation before Parliament had an
opportunity of expressing an opinion on it. In the
meantime the printed copy would be laid upon their
lordships' table.
The Entail (Scotland) Bill, the Stamp Duties Bill, and
the Registrar of Meetings Bill, were read a third time
and passed.
The Public Libraries (Ireland and Scotland) Bill, the
Burgh Harbours (Scotland) Bill, the Elections Bill
the Sheriff Courts (Scotland) Bill, the 'Resident'
magistrates (Ireland) Bill, the Turnpike Trusts Arrange-
ment Bill, and the Sheep, Sze., -Contagious Diseases
Prevention Bill passed through committee.
The Highway Rates Bill the Stamp &ties (No. 2)
Bill, and the Turnpike Acts Continuance Bill were read
a second time.

THE INDIA. BILL.
On the motion of Earl GRANVILLE, this bill was read
a first time and ordered to be read a second time or
Thursday.
Adjourned.

ROUSE OF COMMON
S--(YESTmi ERDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at 10 nutes after 12
o'clock.

JUVENILE OFFENDERS' BILL.
Mr. ADDERLEY, in moving the second reading of
the bill, said his only object in pressing it now on the
attention of the house was to elicit the opinions of hon.
members on the subject, and to obtain a pledge from the
Government to introduce a measure in reference to it
during the forthcoming session. The object of the pre-
sent bill, was the permissive establishment by counties
or boroughs, or by counties and boroughs conjointly, of
reformatory schools for young criminals where they
should be taught some industrial trade, and be supplied
with parental care and home influence, instead of being
subject to the rough and unsatisfactory treatment of a
short imprisonment in our common gaols. The evil
which the bill sought to remedy was a great one, no
less than the existence throughout the country, and
especially in large towns, of an immense class of cbild-
dren, who, by the absence of parental care fell into cri-
minal habits of life ; and he believed that the theory of
the bill, which was founded on the report of a com-
mittee of the House of Commons, was already adopted
by the press and the public.
Mr. BAINES, as chairman of the committee, which
had sat two sessions on the treatment of juvenile of-
fenders, expressed his entire concurrence in the observa-
tions of the hon. member. There was no object more
important than that he sought to attain, and there was
scarcely any more urgent. He considered that it be-
hoved Parliament to apply itself to the subject with the

least possible delay; but at the same time he thought it
was impossible in the present session to frame a bill
which would be altogether satisfactory in point of detail.
There were three points clearly established before the
committee, and he was extremely glad to find that the
hon. member had introduced them into his bill—first,
that the existing gaols were altogether inadequate for
the reformation of young children ; secondly, thati n
any mode of treatment adopted in regard to these
children, it was of the utmost importance that it should
be of an industrial character ; and, thirdly, that it was
essential to insist on parental responsibility. (Hear,
hear.) The parent should be made to understand that
he would gain nothing in a pecuniary point of
view by neglecting his children, and learning them
to lead a vicious course of life, and that if they became
inmates of the proposed institutions he would become
liable for a whole or portion of their maintenance. The
right hon. gentleman concluded by seconding the motion
for the second reading of the bill.
Mr. HENLEY agreed entirely in the object of the
bill, but thought it was of too much importance to be
entrusted to the hands of an independent member. He
recommended that it should be taken up by the Govern-
ment ; and lie thought as it was only brought forward
to elicit discussion that it would be better not to press
the second reading, especially as it contained some de-
tails that were open to objection.
Lord PALMERSTON had no doubt the house would
be unanimous in giving the bill a second reading, on the
ua lerstanding that the further consideration of the bill was
to be postponed until next session. The principle which
it involved was, in his opinion, likely to meet the ap-
probation of the Legislature, but as the machinery of it
required mature deliberation, lie hoped the present
discussion would not be prolonged, as there was other
business of pressing importance on the paper. He re-
commended lion, members to read the evidence taken
before the committee with attention during the recess,
and next session they would be prepared to enter into
the discussion of the subject, with a view to some prac-
tical result.

Mr. HUME objected to the principle of the bill, as
being simply an extension of the poor law, which he be-
lieved had been productive of very great evil to the
country, and opposed the second reading.
Sir J. GRAHAM thought it was advisable that the
house should affirm the preamble of the bill, which was
simply "for the better care and reformation of juvenile
offenders." He was of opinion that the time had arrived
when it was imperative on the house to take that subject
into its serious consideration.
Mr. M. MILNES thanked the Government for the
manner in which they had received this bill so different
from the reception which a similar one had received five
or six years ago. He regretted the:delay which had suf-
fered so many young culprits who.might have been re-
claimed to grow up in confirmed vice ; but this was not
a time to complain. With respect to the observations of
the hon. member for Montrose, he felt assured that from
whatever source it might be decided to draw the neces-
sary funds, the proposed measure so far from proving a
loss would be a great national gain.
After a few words from Mr. DUNLOP, who expressed
his wish that the operation of this bill might be extended
to Scotland,
The bill was read a seced time and was ordered to be
committed this day three months.
NAVAL COAST VOLUNTEERS.

The house then went into committee on this bill.
Sir J. GRAHAM entered into a statement of the ob-
ject of the bill, similar to that which he made on the
second reading of the bill. When the Militia Bill was
prepared, he did not believe that so many volunteers
would come forward as they had done, while he was cer-
tainly surprised and gratified at the readiness with
which his fellow-countrymen had displayed their
military ardour on behalf of their native land. He
was, therefore, in favour of the voluntary principle,
both as regarded the navy or the army, and
he, therefore, applied the voluntary principle of the
Militia Act to this bill without the aid of the ballot,
rather than have a system of compulsory enlistment. In
our rivers and in the coasting trade there were a num-
ber of men who would accept the bounty of 6/. a man,
which this bill offered with avidity, and to them he
should then look for making up the complement sanctioned
by this bill. It was proposed in the first instance that
10,000 men should be raised, while it would be stipu-
lated that the men should not be taken more than 50
leagues from the British or Irish coast. The men
would receive the pay of able seamen in the navy, and
they would be called out for five years ; but in case of
special emergency they would be obliged to serve for
another year, and if the danger continued, and was
imminent after that period, then the volunteers would
be called out for an additional year, receiving an addition
of 2d. a day to their pay, and being obliged to go 100
leagues from the coast. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. MACKINNON found fault with the measure
because no provision was made in it for raising the
10,000 in the event of the volunteer principle failing.
Captain SCOBELL said that, under three Adminis-
trations, he had protested against the political manage-
ment of the naval service. He thought, however, that
the service could not be in better hands than in those of
the present First Lord. He strongly recommended and
approved of the plan of giving bounties, which, he
thought, would greatly contribute to the success of the
measure, as it had done to the Militia Bill. That part
of the Bill, however, which proposed, in certain cases,
to take landsmen as volunteers would, he thought, not
answer, as it was impossible to instruct them in the
duties of seamen in so short a time.

Sir G. PECHELL, on the whole, approved of the
efforts which the Admiralty were making for improving
and rendering the navy efficient, but there was room
yet for alteration. Some change should be made in the
mode of distributing prize-money, while an attempt
should he made to rid the service of all defective or ob-
jectionable excesses. Parliament and the Government
might depend upon it that the soundest policy was to
deal with the navy in a liberal spirit ; and he would,
therefore, make some addition to the terms proposed by
this bill.

Clauses 1 and 2, which provided for the number of
men and the amount of the bounty, were agreed to.

On clause 3,
Sir J. GRAHAM, in reply to a question, said that he
had not yet considered in detail the mode in which the
proposed measure would be carried out after receiving
the sanction of the Legislature, but that probably one
commanding officer would be appointed to superintend
the training throughout the United Kingdom.
The clause was then agreed to.

On clause 4,
Admiral BERKELEY• objected to the use of the
term " invasion." He said Government ought to be
prepared to resist an invasion, but not to invite one by
thus publicly proclaiming their apprehension.
After a short discussion, the gallant Admiral reluc-
tantly withdrew his objection, and the clause was agreed
to, as were also clauses 5,6, and 7.
On clause 8,

Sir G. PECHELL wished to know if any stoppages
were to take place on the bounty ?
Sir J. GRAHAM replied that he was not prepared to
go into details at present, but no such stoppages were
contemplated.

Capt.. SCOBELL complained, that while a bounty
was given to militia-men, regular soldiers, marines, and
now even to naval volunteers, no bounty was allowed to
be offered to our regular seamen. He was sure this was
not only a cause of discontent, but operated powerfully
in occasioning the difficulties experienced in manning

our navy.
Sir J. GRAHAM replied, that the executive had
already the power the gallant officer alluded to, and
might exercise it at any time, and to any extent, if
thought necessary, but that it was not considered requi-
site so to do in time of peace. _

The clause was then agreed to, as was also the remain-
ing clauses, 16 in number, without discussion.
The house having resumed, the Chairman reported
the bill.

METROPOLITAN SEWERS ACT CONTINII-

ANCE BILL.

On the order of the day for the committal of this bill,
Sir B. HALL said that it was so late, that he hoped
the bill would not be now pressed forward, but that a
time would be appointed when it could be fully dia•
cussed. .
Lord PALIvIERSTON admitted the reasonableness
of this proposal, and the committee was ultimately fixed
for Thursday at 12.
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JUVENILE MENDICANCY BILL.
In reply to a question from Mr. T. DIINCOMBE,
Lord PALMERSTON was understood to say that
it was not intended to press this bill beyond the second
reading until next session.
The house rose a few minutes before 4 o'clock.
'The house resumed at six o'clock.
CASE OF ROBERT TOLLER.

Mr. W. PATTEN presented a petition from R. Toiler,
one of the witnesses who had been examined before the
Clitheroe committee, and who had lately been committed
to the gaol of Newgate upon the charge of prevarication.
The petitioner begged most respectfully to assure the house
that, in consequence of never having been examined before
a committee previous to the occasion upon which he Lately
gave his evidence, and never having been subjected to sucni!
rigid cross-examination by counsel, he was very much coo_
used, and did not clearly understand the questions 1
1 ahi.nh.
were put to him. He regretted to find that anyinen!
lty of
'firmity of his should lead the house to deem him gui
wilful prevarication, and begged
in question. Tho
his character had never before been calledeen
custody
for
petitioner further stated that he hadle,bl in
an active life, his
12 days, and that having previously to assure the house that
at
si osnu
if:Bi
nregl efarsoiena.il
misled
contrition for having the „nil.
health ad been seriously
sired to express his con injured by confinement. He de-
the hou.
Now he (Mr. W.
mittee, and im_plored
Patten) held in 1 b's hands the certificates
and one or two other medical
of the surgeon of Newgate
"Ttoollesran:v
' h testified that Robert
men, which
diarrhoea, and
the bvmental excitement consequent upon his confinement
in prison.
-He had also been requested to mention that
there were at present several „. Qentl
emen in London who
were ready to bear testimony to the good character which
had, until recently, been borne by the petitioner. Now,
under these circumstances he thought the house ought to
take the Case of that unfortunate person into the' ' 1
11' CollBlt E.
ration. At the same time, he was unwilling
to press the
matter upon their attention, unless the ' • coalman of tie
committee before whom Toilerhad been examined should
be of opinion that the circumstances of the case were such
as to justify his release
Mr. G. A.. H .
AMILTON said that the witness Toll
bli • er
was
the proprietor
of apu c-house in the borough of Clitheroe
•
and that he held that house under a relative of Mr.
Aspi-
nall, one of the candidates at the late election. It was,
therefore, not unnatural that there should be a bias uis a
the part of witness in favour of Mr. Aspinall. Toiler i, .
been examined by the counsel for the petitioner at great
length, and having been subjected to a cross-examination,
certainly appeared to be not a little confused. At the
same time he (Mr. G. Hamilton) was bound to say that
afterwards his evidence was extremely contradictory; so
much so that the committee felt it to be their duty, with
the view to enable the witness to set himself right, to put