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London, England, 1853-02-25 00:00:00

administered the law as he found it. His duties were de.
filled and his responsibility controlled. But every mem-
ber of Parliament shared in making laws affecting life
liberLY, property, and that very religious liberty which the
nob lord admired. (Hear, hear.) He believed the
caracter of the constitution was such that they were en-
abled to impart those blessings of religious liberty to every
denomination outside the house. But if they admitted all
eersehs, and destroyed that common bond of union, the pro-
ssion of Christianity, then they made Christianity itself an
?Pen question. Those were the views which were forcibly
impressed on his mind, and they were identical with the
views entertained by the enlightened mind of the late Dr.
YArnold. Many appeals had been made to these feelings.
e would yield to no man in deep and sacred sympathy to
he Jews. Their history and hopes were surrounded with
he
avenly grandeur, and he would preserve to them every
'air and rightful privilege ; but he could not overlook the
Punishment which, at the end of nearly two thousand
Years, still hung over them, for the rejection of the Saviour
~of mankind, and he would take care, as far as he could, to
he no Party to unchristianising that house, to bring down,
Perhaps, upon the constitution the Divine displeasure.
(Ilear, hear.)
t, Lord DRUMLANRIG admitted that the subject was
horoughly exhausted,and was better fitted for immedate
decision than for protracted' discussion ; but he claimed the
indulgence of the house while he explained how it was he
Was about to give a vote entirely at variance with his votes.
Zu former occasions. (Ironical cheers from the Opposi-
won.
e ) He perfectly understood the meaning of that cheer;
but, in the words of the right honourable baronet theto
Member for the University of Oxford, " they were nott
.;_be so much blamed for an error committed, 33 for con inl-
e,'"g in that error." (Hear.) He had'vpted. against this
hire in 1847, and in 1849 ; but since 1849 hearl
in
advisedly and purposely abstained from taking any p in
the discu.ssions, and he had neither, spoken. nor voted on
e eit.estion. Had his convictions remained unchanged,
Ite should still have thought, after repeated majorities of.
EAU house had affirmed the principle, that the Jews should
imt be excluded, he was not justified in offering any fur,-
tiler,
opposition. (Derisive cheers.) But he would not
z• eiter himself by that plea. Year after year he had
iZ,,,,,,e4a2e more and more convinced that arguments which
1--""crlY seemed theoretical and titular were in reality
2sound, and that there was nothing he could cling to in
"a spirit of Christianity which justified his further oppos-
ing the admission of Jews into that house. (Loud derisive
ch▪
eers from the Opposition.) He had nothing further to
add to what had been so ably said by the noble lord the
member for the city of London, but he did not choose,
ruder the circumstances, to give a silent vote. (Renewed
ironical cheers.) es'
Mr. WIGRAH and. Colonel .SIBTHORP rose together,
and neither showed the least inclination to give way. •
After a moment or. two, the SPEAKER called on the
former gentleman.
Mr. WIGRAM considered that this proposal, if carried,
'would be regarded by a large mass of the people of this
rintry as a great slight to Christianity. (Hear, hear.) It
,:t8 Particularly pressed upon the house by the noble lord
tclaille for justice. If he could be satisfied that it was
phc.tira for justice, he should no loneer resist it. But he
entii not help thinking the noble lorerwas considering only
ce to one Party The noble lord spoke of justce to the
be--.Xdate• He wanted to know whether justice wins not to
The-`4"011 to the constituency. (Cheers and counter cheers.)
There were two questions to be considered. The first was.
eetwnether it was right or not that qualification should be
annexed to the representatives elected by the constituen-
e„e„ The second question was, whether this particular
4fication, the profession of the Christian religion, was
test, qualification to be annexed? On the first ques-
;Three thought there was no doubt. That being so, the
ac'eeeldates were elected by a majority of, the constituents,
b that majority imposed on the minority, perhaps only
ilea few votes, a person to be their representative, who
giiifla represent their political opinions at all. That re;
the coot
not be helped. It arose from the necessity of
ease, but surely the candidate ought to be a man who
reeeght reasonably be imposed on the minority by an arbi-
eje, temerity. Then came the question, was this require-
etrar: the erofession of Christianity a fair and reasonable
an 4fication ? . Considering that this ,was a Chris-
tiaa,°illltry, and that the constituencies were substan-
ehie-I‘-nristians, he was disposed to say it was but reason-
' ,"",require that the candidate to be imposed on the
th,;° should be a person professing the same faith as
i rat Y io at
dwithll n large. (Hear, hear.) They talked of deal-
this matter as a civil and not as a religious ques-
ti But the ,two were so bound in all social considera-
etion that they could not be separated. Supposing a ques-
" Were brought forward touching the observance of the
eate d
e pea „i„ ay, a Jew, from the nature of the case, was not in
-"oll to exercise his judgment upon it, (Hear,
insher.)
keat institution, which was observed by Christians re-
iet,'olThralice of Christian circumstances, was an observance
bWhich the Jew could not enter. Let them take the
uf education. - He did not mean Church education ;
ritual they were asked to consider, as a branch of na-
-11141 ed-ucation whether instruction in the New Teste-
Nee should forma part, the most important question in
*eel 41%:a3r which could be brought forward, and one which,
caelee'Lle expressions of the noble lord, they might soon be
said ri.hPon to consider. (Hear, hear.) Then, again, he
tuenWaS not unreasonable that the minority of a consti:
ReileZ should have the means of knowing that their repre
°ll that" W, ?.s in a position to form and exercise an.t opinion. They
144 st haysußlect. He said the Jew could not do
ee.
theate a believer in the New Testament to form anf a
es-
system cf, the advantages of that book forming a part o
c" national education. (Hear, hear.) Many ex
able enaiuploa might be put, in all of which it was not unreason-
'joriee-nrequire that the representative imposed_ by a m_a
ucl gc,e a minority should be in a position to exercise
uni .4" L'‘eell questions of vital interest to the whole k
t3r.
ricar h ar ) When these views were ta. en
-eom-
tieceere wetinskt:erhaetrit eh
'thought that the argument for. pis-
' e t a measure of this kind than in fa-
jW4Biethlsitt; the
fOcta,intshis bill sacrificed the justice which
-Le constituency to what was asserted to be the.
that it to -sue to the candidate. It might just as well be said
reheat .4 was unjust to impose a preperty qualification as
-'as unjust to impose the qualification of a certain
.le.er"°llB belief ; for his own part, he thought that both
e Perfectly just, if the social interests of the country
Doebirecl them, and the qualifications were properly im-
'led. He should, therefore, give his most conscientious
-141 earnest opposition to this proposition. (Cheers.)
Or. D. SEYMOUR thought that the argument of the
bnourable member, who had just resumed his seat, had
ye 4 characterised by the same vein of sophistry that had
e'arked all the speeches which had been deliveredboern the
r
side. The presence of the honouerable
sufficientniem
to show
h emh (Mr. Lucas) in that him
eesfur little such arguments wouy leseearwtshe test of practical
Legislature
If Roman Catholics were admitted into the
glslature, he (Mr. Seymoutrh)esheoeuwlde.like to know on what
(Divide.) He must
ITtcollt:ds they could exclude J
th St against the argument o. f the right hon. gentleman
that member for the University of of Dublin, when he said
,tie a measure like that propoby the noble lord the
tel)er for the City of London would unchristianise this
that
the
n the contrary, he (Mr. eymour)
would be to
the best of christianising the Jews submitted
lkhei, way
them to Parliament. (Oh, and hear,.. hear.) In the
rich• of George 11., when the question had been raised
cake ws et-er
heate to be naturalised, persons
from
mbtehene
to propy gloomy things for. England ro
dug of such pa
measure, but the results of the years that
Dreeee'uoeved had stamped the stigma of falsity. upon such
.iereeeeuies. And now that the Jews were admittedto-net7
how
tend ex, and to the exercise of magisterial i
4.eY refuse to admit them into.the L functions,
He
beeeulained that the best way of making
t_ b°,ehaturalise them, and that the true to make
Jelees patriots had
(tteeemlristians would be to admit them intow Parliament.
stood' and a laugh.) It had been asserted that England
above Peerless in her liberality towards the Jenwi nation
Ye: all nations of the world ; but this was a
eulltrnfer country might be pointed to, whichave a error,total
Was
baujiction to this opinion. In America the. question
ealle fe°4 what was a man's creed, but what was hisconduc.te
4114 .}vas twelve or fourteen thereeas ago that a Jewish
'4 P.l.4eliff had returned for ity of New York.
.eiz'acitii.„lie.e, too, the Jews were admitted to a full share of
.e'ay.rthe'rge"_ollal rights. (Divide divide.) He would not
e occupy the time of the house at that late hour, but
8 heart support to the motion before the house.
eair' hear.) y
Neill thetue e
V-0-PHORP said that a noble. lord had told
"'lee "" he would give a vote that night totally at
cee with those that he had given before—,
go (r,TeblPora mutantur, et nos mutamur ab illis."
ee3„l.leonel Sibthorp) was happy to say that he was in a
Position.ut (Laughter.) He would ask the
Ive4e.rd Ile 130 The memberfor London how he could come for-
eat table, where they were in the habit of in-
Cltel "Lle lin on whom we all relied for every blessing, and
h in-
house el.°Potial for unchristianising the members of that
1113 heli (Loud laughter.) Why it was on the principle,
ea'ed evade of `scratch me, and .I'll scratch you." (Re-
'llcee- laughter
a vet a little feli)owfteeriascrneacner for the noble lord
to
a colleague, tip rea
Thaht enl'eotable individual he (Colonel Sibthorp) h.a.d.nee
h Y, had ~then he was a Jew. (Laughter,. and )divide.)
e 311(-A right to desecrate an assembly like that, and
oac,,eco,,rdingly against the motion.
PretB, wee the
belonged to a pale which, of all
iletvosal
,eele most maligned next to that to. which the
s
tle to the noble lord-related, and he felt it tsje be
sects ee-tea word on. behalf of that portion of his fellow
leas pis eh. ? were still labouring under civil disabilities.
ter faitgiirllerl every British subject of the Crown, who
heal, itted in his allegiance and did his duty, ought to be
lehl'eatiore "°eaeh and-every privilege of. the British
thatcon-
ic
l 011 ‘,Qear, hear. e hoped to live to see the day
T h eahlrneda subjects;
of this realm would have seatu
eee
hee,ise • (Oh, oh, and divide.)
Fee e divided. The numbers were—
into committee
Against
-uhe
oft Majority for —29
tee ii
-ler _ the division was received with loud cheering.
to 4eittee admission. to thegallery, we fOund the house en
4411114 th and' Mr. Wilson P tten (the chairman) about
tettiic)(l4
I:,reeolution u ion whiach the bill is to be founded,
h a ee2.llgled cries ofl Ayeer e and ye." Some COD-
-44, ainidst ;ne or two honourable mem-
ehe ehlPted t
Th' veleen3 SPeak, but they were compelled to desist
eteete,Setkneince of the contending cries. At length
itfreetie That -1..---N read the resolution, which was to. tho
ip her it expedient to remove all civil disabilities
th °11.1.4 aiajesty's sub'e t the Jewish persuasion,
Q. "er and -th c ..hoi4se of be_ e exceptions to those provided
„ The e religio`inviaJesty's subjects professing the Roman
,resolut.
ICkYe' a " was then e,Mbee hd put, when the loud cries of
*NZ, 444° were vociferously renewed. An hon.
4,_,able,„, -tie confusion, was understood to move an
47ieler. The and the Chairman ordered strangers to with-
gallery however
K fro A1,p0,.„, owever, was not cleared.
• te In hie eels (addressing the committee without ris-
es teol'e are
sa:tt,) said—Sir, the question having been put,
ea. new members in. the. • house, perhaps.
ply` ally aeyititeceseay that if”the.division is not challenged
eieeL•ake leanew.lo. nees being given, no division will Oare''''ll the and since a division has already taken
4,:n. 4 and 7alu question, it seems to me to be unne-
th (ele.sepeifluous to take a division upon the resolu-
blietea °Wit&
Th:',.htta it ~ISIA-I`T again put the resolution to the com-
"leenZoletejnasea.greed to without a division.
eamte. 14 the eiiivns then reported, and leave was given
eobtained leave to bring in a bill to
e tre.ion° granting of new trials in criminal
f Post
ttta ireeechethe a Peeled the motion of which he had given
eilfateoes
n?tmetinent of a committee to inquire into
eisieereepekl at I:lined in a petition complaining of cer-
e_ the elect. late election for Cork until after the
l'au committee.
I`e ING •
I,,:sieg DUNG POWERS, &c. (IRELAND).
lyndnt Itieletrs (IrelanT that the select committee on the
" (Ire' , Landlord and Tenant (Ireland),
kle;-4tut '-`e consistau)l and Tenants' Compensation an-
Pah:QB of 30 members, viz., Sir J. Yonne
460Zfuson ee7' l!yrr• Shee Lor'd Naas, Mr. Luca'3,
itzgjrahf Xirk, Mr. Henry Herbert, Mr. Roche'
Ifx• Fagan, Mr, Robert Ilillbnore;