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London, England, 1838-04-02 00:00:00

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COMMITTEE ON BILL (WEST SCOTLAND LIST.)
Lord WILLIAM 13nsorrecx in the Chair.
Edinburgh and Glasgow Beltway Bill.—On the opening of the Corn.
=Wee this morning, Mr. Hoes proceeded to recapitulate those parts of
the evidence, from the last years' Report of the Committee, which were
thought requisite, (instead of going through the whole) as settled yester-
day. These extracts of evidence chiefly related to the estimated capital,
expenses, revenue, traffic, &c. of the Railway.
Mr. Hors contended, after going through a variety of items
of account, that the estimated traffic upon the railway, according to
the shewing of the evidence before the last year's Committee, did not
afford a prospect of paying more than 4 per cent. upon the capital of the
shareholders.
Mr. Joe then addressed the Committee, saying he hoped it would be
soonsidersd that he had kept faith with the parties for the Bill, in having
produced the condensed evidence from the last year's report, which had
been promised yesterday. His Learned Friend (Mr. Hope) effected a
great saving in the time of the Committeee, by the very able manner in
which he had compressed such evidence.
The Noble CHAIRMAN said he had been struck with the noble man.
ser in which Mr. Hope had executed the task.
After the reading of the evidence of Mr. W. S. Gilpin, a landscape
gardener, who hrd stated in answer to a question from Mr. Joy, that a
man who wculd project such a line of railway as this through a gentle.
man's property, cannot respect his duty towards his neighbour—he
cannot be a Christian—that is impossible.
Mr. Joe' addressed the Committee against the Bill.
In commenting upon the evidence from the last year's Report, the
Learned Counsel said he should be most happy to give his friend Mr.
Andrews, on the other side, ten guineas for every Member who had
read such Report, if he would give him one guinea for every Member
who had not. Mr. Joy enlarged upon the fact of Hon. Members not
having read such evidence, and he now asked the Committee
whether this was the mode in which they thought the property
f individuals was to be used by the strong arm of the
law—by the omnipotence of Parliament ? Such a case was hard
'and cruel in the extreme. The important fact could not be denied
tbat it had been more than hinted that many Hon. Members had not
Teed one word of such evidence. He, Mr. Joy, did not wish to repeat
any strong term he might have used upon this fact ; but, he would re-
spectfully ask of the Noble Chairman (who formed an exception to his
remark, as his Lordship had last year, as well as this, paid the closest
attention to the matter), he would ask, could anything be " a greater
farce ?" The Learned Gent. then adverted to the singular fact that the
chief subscribers to the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway were residents
in Liverpool and Manchester! Now he did not mean to say that such
subscribers might not prove the undertaking worth something or a
great deal ; but he, Mr. Joy, contended that a more weighty interest,
evinced by a larger subscription, should have been proved by his
Learned Friends to have existed in the Cities of Edinburgh and Glas-
govr. Amongst the advantages attendant on the undertaking it had
been aeserteel by the supporters of the Bill that writers who resided in
Glasgow might set off to attend the Courts in Edinburgh on the very day
their causes were caning on. Now this was absurd, as every.
body well knew that it wad absolutely necessary for every writer or
attorney to be at the elbow of his counsel much sooner than on the day
of hearing. He, Mr. Joy, would not waste words on that ; but would
merely add that this was the strongest point insisted upon in the case
of his Hon. Friends in support of the Bill. Moreover, he, Mr. Joy,
was sorry to observe that in this and other Rail-road Bills, the
custom—which was a French custom, not an English one—ap-
peared to be, that wherever the cry of " public utility" was raised,
all considerations of private property, and the comforts and advantages
attending it, were to be forthwith lost sight of. This was the case under
despotic governments, hut could never apply to that of this country.
The Learned Gentleman then proceeded to argue generally against the
Bill, especially impugning the line. Ile would say, that his Learned
Friends had enveloped this caee in " a Scotch mist," which, it was
said, would wet an Englishmen through, and he must confess, as an
unfortueate Englishman, he had been completely saturated by it.
However, he trusted, by great exertion, to be enabled to " chase the
heavy dew away." The fact in evidence yesterday could not be forgot-
ten that parties who had subscribed by attorney, had a second time sub-
scribed pi rsonally, and that, consequently, their subscriptions were in-
serted twice over in the list, carrying upon the face of them, if not the
intention, at all events, the appearance, of a false pretence. Such an
an appearance produced, on examination, a discrepancy of no less than
the difference between severity thousand and thirty thousand pounds.
If this discrepancy were not explamed in the first subscription list,
surely it might have been done in the second. His Learned Friends
had come before this Committee with any thing but a clear case; and
instead of being enabled to divest it of obscurity, they had turned round
upon him, and accused him of wishing to waste the time of the Com-
mittee. The Learned Counsel strongly denied this, and hoped that
such Members of the Committee—and such only—as had read, or
heard read, the evidence, would decide upon the merits of this
question; as regarded the subscription lists, the parties for the Bill
had played fast and loose. They hail, in short, rehearsed a farce.
This farce, it was true, had only yet exhibited one act ; and he, Mr.
Joy, trusted that the remaining ones, before another tribunal, would
not he allewee to proceed.
The Learned Gentleman': speech, which took tip the time of the
Committee until it was recmsary to adjourn, owing to the same Com.
mittee li.t having to sit to-day upon the Glasgow Waterworks, (Nan-
eluded be enforcing the truth that a very great and overwhelming public
benent rest be proved to be the result, before any injury to private pro-
perty ran be elbowed to lee perpetrated. The strangest proof of neces-
sity most be had; and the stalking-horse of public necessity must not be
a :owed recommit the flagrant injustice cm:tempi:sted by this Bill.
Mr. Aereaews. in reply, disclaimed all idea of entering into length-
ened deal. His Learned Friend, Mr. Wood, had rendered that unneces-
sary. He (Mr. samlrews) woutd rely upon the forts of the evidence
prodused before the Committee, and the Report of last year. lie, there_
lore, left the case cheerfully- in the hands of the Committee.
Mr. Mtetros then produced a list cf the ass, nts, diesent3, and neuters,
along the proposed line, and the room was then cleared.
On our return to the room, the CHAIRM AN announced that the Com-
mittee had decided that the preamble was proved.
The Not lv Chairman and several Members of the Committee then
left the room to attend the Committee on the. Glasgow Waterworks
Bill, and Mr. Gibson Craig took the Chair for the Noble I.2rd.
It was then agreed, after so-ne discussion, that only the undisputed
clauses :mil resolutietta should be gone into for the remainder of to-day ;
but u.timatety the Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow.

CO:,IMITTEE ON BILL (WEST SCOTLAND LIST.)
Lord Wm. EENTricti in the Chair.
GLASGOW WATERWORKS BILL.

Three several petitions -,vere read against the Bill, but no one ap.
peered sa counsel or agent in support of tlem.
Mr. 31'Cane, Secretary and Engineer to the Cranston Hill Com-
pany, uas then examined by Mr. Sergeant t3pankie as to the amount of
dent of tit! Company. Witticss stated the aetual clear debt of the Com-
pany to be 70,000/. By the present Bill it was proposed that the Com-
pany should have the p.,wer of raising 100,0004 ; the capital is to be
3.")0,000/. ; does not know how many shares this sum is held ; the Company
has 6,800 and odd shares disposed of. The engines of the works are
geed ; they work, Weil supplying the distilleries, about eighteen hours
a day. l'he reserveirs are large, and consequently require a great dell
of water. The engines sometimes work whilst the pcoVe are in bed,
and a great dell of the water is stolen. The great reservoir is about
eighty.faur feet ebove the level of the Clyde. The average supply from
the reservoir is, for nui teen hour—viz , from she o'clock in thernorn-
ing to eight o'clock at night; bnt, at only a little above the level of the
at, ts, they have a supply of water all night. Some of the water rate-
payers eomplain of a short supply ; in some instances such complaints
are too welt founded. To put on additional power of engines would be
very ee pensive.

The remainder of this witness's evidence also related to the supply
afr,rded to the inhabitants, and the rates they paid, which varied ac-
cording to the different levels upon which their houses were situated.
The witness produced and put iu a statement of a gra luated scale of the
present charges for water, as compared with the charges intended by
this Bill.

The room w. 3 clearrd upon a question of evidence, in cross_examina_
tior', in which the Witi.,S4 was asked by Mr. 31`Nell construction
of a parli::::lar part of an Act of Parliament.
The t. stomas announced tile decision of the Committee, that the
quest.un could not be pot.
A di wussion of some longth to.,:c place, as to whether the witness, as
Fes•vtery to the Company, should produce the hocks of account, end cer-
tain docu.-ncrits, relative to a former intention of arrangement, or pur-
chase and sale, betwnn the Clasgow and Cranston-hill Companies.
Mr. Ardrewi, for the Bill, and Mr. M'Siel, the Scottish Advocate,
against it, subsequently agreed that such books and documents should be
produced in evidence.
Another discussion arose as to the admissibility of a question by Mr.
Itl`Neil, relative to an opinion of Counsel given to the promoters of the
Bill.

The derision of the. Committee, without clearing the room, was
against the question.
The Committee then adjourned until 12 o'clock nezt Tuesday.

NECROPOLIS CEMETERY BILL—(MIDDLESEX LIST.)
Mr. PaiLLporrs in the chair.

Mr. Sydney, civil engineer, was examined by Mr. Movnt.—Witness
nine years since surveyed the ground for a lunatic asylum. Very hie.
legible for a Necropolis. Every grave would be a cesspool of water.
Saw the soil clay. Impossible to drain it. After a few questions put to
this witness, as also to Mr. Knowles, undertaker, and Mr. Hunt, sexton,
of Hampstead, the room was cleared, when at 3 o'clock the Corn.
mittee decided that the preamble Was not proved—consequently the
Bill is lost.

On Thursday evening, between eight and nine
o'clock, as a young lady named Amelia Harland, residing
with her friends in Judd-place South, New-road, was cross-
ing opposite to St. Pancras Churo to Euston-square, she
was knocked down and run over by one of the Paddington
omnibuses. The fore and hind wheels i.alsed over both her
arms below the &bow, severely lacerating the flesh, and
crushing the bones to splinters. The unfortunate young lady
was removed in a state of extreme suffering to her parents' re-
sidence.

A shocking accident occurred on Friday morning
to a young man named James Carroll, footman in the service
of Mathew Gilbert, Esq., of Baker-street, Portman-square.
The man, it seems, had obtained permission to accompany his
cousin (a soldier in the Goldstream Guards) on his march to
Hounslow, and remained there until a late hour drinking. On
his return to town, wishing to obtain entrance at his master's
house without arousing the family, he endeavoured to scale the
area railings, but his foot sliping, be fell direct on the spikes
and remained impaled until released by some labourers pro-
ceeding to their work. The unfortunate man was conveyed in
a bleeding and insensible state to the hospital.

HUMAN REMAINS.—A few days ago, while some
work people were employed planting young trees, in a field
called Kiln Hole, near Thurland Castle, belonging to Richard
Toulmin North, Esq., they discovered two human skeletons
about eighteen inches below the surfuce of the ground.
About five or six years ago, a skeleton was found near the
same place. How long the remains may have lain there, no
one pretends to say. It is supposed that this place was one
of the Roman stations.—Kendal Mercury.

In a trespass case tried in the Nisi Prius Court on
Tuesday, one witness said that he hung his coat upon an apple
tree, and on pulling it by the tail the tree fell down. Another
witness was asked what became of the tree, and he said he
saw it lying by the hedge for a fortnight, when it disappeared ;
be did not know whether the woodpeckers (pickers) carried it
off or not. A third witness was questioned as to the roots of
the tree being cut away, and be said the roots were not de-
stroyed till the lawyer and another gentleman came down, and
whether they did it, or whether the pigs rooted up the tree, he
could not tell.— Western Luminary.
Friday morning, between nine and ten o'clock,
.1 Imes Miles, footman in the family of Praed, Esq., of
Great Coram-street, Russell-squaro, was standing outside
cleaning the back parlour window, when he by some means let
go his hold, and tell backwards on the flag stones of the yard.
He was taken up in an apparently lifeless state, and con-
veyed to the University College Hospital, when it was
ascertained that his skull was so dreadfully fractured that his
life is despaired of.