The Sun.
London, England, 1854-04-12 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, APRIL 12, 1854.

course dictated by the highest sense of duty, and b'sr a deep
regard for the interests of the country. Differing as he did
from the hon. member for Manchester as to the necessity
of the war, he could cordially concur in the opinion which
he had expressed that the war might speedily be brought
to an honourable conclusion, and that they might be left
free to resume the consideration of this important ques-
tion of the amendment of the representation of the people.
The hon. member had truly said that no disposition had
been shown in the present session to occupy the house on
nights devoted to private members with business that was
not of a pressing nature. He trusted the noble lord would
press rapidly forward all measures of really practical im-
portance, feeling certain that the house would be ready to
discuss them without delay, and that it was their desire
not to prolong their sittings to a late period of the year—a
practice of which of late great complaint liad been made.
Mr. S. HERBERT said that Mr. Disraeli had misre-
presented Lord John Russell, and he denied that the con-
dition of the country at the time of the accession of Go-
vernment to office did not materially differ from what it
now was. In further reply to Mr. Disraeli, he said that
tranquillity was one thing and apathy another, and that
the mind of the country was not capable of taking in two
great excitements at once. The whole heart and mind of
the nation was divided between the Baltic and the Danube.
In answer to an observation of Lord Jocelyn, Mr. S. Her-
bert said that in taking office under Lord Aberdeen he
himself had made no compromise of his principles on the
subject of parliamentary reform—he had ever desired to
see such reform, he had given his cordial approbation to
the present bill, and he hoped at some future time to see
either that or another measure carried, with which Lord
J. Russell's name should be connected.
Sir J. PAK INGTON, after a few words in vindication
of Mr. Disraeli, said that there was no man on any side of
the house who was diposed to question the honour of Lord
John Russell, and if any person could possibly have enter-
tained such a feeling, it must have been removed by his
speech of that night. Bat nothint, that Lord J. Russell
had said had impaired hie (Sir ePakington'e) opinion,
that if the Reform Bill were not to be proceeded with, it
ought not to have been introduced.
Mr. JOHN MACGREGOR, in answer to a remark 'of
the right hon. member for Taunton, said that he admitted
that the people of Scotland were occupied with other
questions than Parliamentary Reform. He had not re-
ceived from his constituents a single letter or petition on
the subject of reform. (Hear.) He did not think that
the Government were indifferent on the question of reform,
but that they considered the postponement of the measure
more advisable than the throwing of the country into a
state of excitement for a general election. He thought the
noble lord the member for London deserved the gratitude
of the people for the magnanimous way in which he had
acted. (Hear.)
On the question being put for the adjournment of the
house to Thursday the 27th,
Lord J. RUSSELL said that he rose not to enter into
the discussion of any of the arguments that had been used,
but merely to express to the house his grateful sense of
the manner in which they had received his statement.
The motion was then agreed to.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.

Lord J. RUSSELL then moved that during the re-
mainder of the session orders of the day should on Thurs-
days take precedence of notices of motion. If that motion
were acceded to he should propose that the Oxford Uni-
versity Bill should be committed that evening pro forma,
and that it should be recommitted on Thursday, the 27th
instant. Upon Friday, the 28th, he hoped that measure
would have passed through committee, and his right hon.
friend the President of the Board of Trade would then, on
the let of May, ask the house to go into committee upon
the Railway Bill. With respect to the Poor Removal
Bill, which stood fixed for the 28th inst., he should state,
upon the part of his right hon. friend the President of the
Poor Law Board, that it was not his intention to ask the
house to proceed with that measure during the present
session. (Hear, hear.) His right hon. friend, however,
proposed to move for a select committee to take into con-
deration the provisions of the existing law with respect to
the removal of Irish paupers from England to Scotland,
and also with reference to the removal of Scotch and Eng-
lish paupers from Ireland. (Hear, hear.)
The question having been put,
Colonel SIBTHORP, in the absence of an hon. friend of
his (as we understood), moved, by way of amendment to
the proposition of the noble lord, that the word " Thurs-
days should be omitted, and the words " every alternate
Thursday" instead thereof introduced into the motion.
LoreJ. RUSSELL said that he did not ask the house
to give precedence to Government orders of the day ; but,
simply, that orders of the day generally should be taken
before notices of motion.

Mr. DISRAELI observed that the most important mea-
sures of the Government had already been abandoned for
the present session, and that being the case, he did not
think that the pressure upon the Government in carrying
on the business of the house was likely to be such as to
render it desirable that independent members should relin-
quish any of the privileges which they now enjoyed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would
remind the house that the miscellaneous estimates yet
remained to be laid upon the table. The consideration of
those estimates would occupy a great deal of time, and
during the discussion which must take place upon them,
the utmost possible facility would exist for putting
any questions which honourable members might desire
to put to the Government, or of making any motion •
with reference to the conduct of her Majesty's Ministers,
which it might be deemed advisable to make. He should
add also, that the miscellaneous estimates during the pre-
sent year would be upon a much larger scale than usual,
inasmuch as the Government were for the first time, about
to submit to the consideration of the house estimates with
regard to the expenses attendant upon the collection of the
revenue, and the usual facility of putting questions to
Ministers, to which he had alluded, would, of course, be
Proportionably increased.
Sir B. HALL hoped the house would assent to the mo-
tion of the noble lord the member for the city of Loudon.
Mr. WALPOLE did not altogether approve of the mo-
tion of the noble lord. He should have no objection that
precedence should be given to Government orders of the
day, but he was by no means desirous that that course
should be taken with reference to orders of the day relating
to business of which independent members had the charge.
After a few observations from Mr. Williams, Mr.
Spooner, and Mr, Cardwell,
Mr. DEEDES said he wished to ask the noble lord the
member for the city of London what course he proposed
to take with respect to the bill which had been introduced
affeeting.those constituencies in whose case a report had
been made by recent commissions, and who were not at
present represented in that house ? He also was anxious
to learn from the noble lord the Secretary for the Home
Department if it was his intention to call upon the house
to legislate, in the course of the present session, upon the
subject of the general police of the country ?
Lord IALMERSTON—It is.
Lord J. RUSSELL. in reply to the question of the hon.
,gentleman opposite, would state that in his opinion it was
extremely desirable that they should proceed during the
present session with the bill to which that question re-
furred.
After a few words from Mr. LAING,
Colonel SIBTHORP withdrew his amendment, and the
original motion was then agreed to.
BLEACHING •AND DYEING ESTABLISHMENTS.
Mr. COBBETT gave notice that on Tuesday, the 2d
of May, he should move that a select committee be ap-
pointed for the purpose of inquiring into the working
hour:, the mode of payment, and the general condition of
those persons who were employed in the bleaching and dye-
ing establishments of the united kingdom.
ORANGE RIVER SOVEREIGNTY.

Mr. SPOONER, on behalf of his hon. friend the mem-
ber for North Stafford, gave notice that on Tuesday the 9th
May, his hon. friend would submit to, the consideration of
the house a motion upon the subject of the abandonment
of the Orange River Sovereignty.
LAW OF PATENTS.

Mr. J. M‘GREGOR was understood to give notice, on
behalf of his hon. friend the member for Rye (Mr. Mac-
kinnon), that it was his intention on Tuesday, the 2d of
May, to move for a select committee to take into conside-
ration the expediency of forming regulations upon the sub-
ject of disputed patents.