The Sun.
London, England, 1838-07-10 00:00:00

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Lord HOLLAND said that the only observation which he
had made when his Noble Friend (Lord Radnor) was
speaking was in reference to what his Noble friend had
stated as to the Vice- Chancellor • being both judge and
jtiry, he ( Lord Holland) adding, " and executioner also."
This was the only remark which he made. He assured the
House he meant to cast no censure whatever upon the
-Uni-
versity.
The Duke of WELLINGTON thought that the Noble
Lord waas the last person who ought to hive joined the
Noble Earl in his attack on the Ministers.
Lord BROUGHANI was surprised to hear that a law,
which {Jai been repealed everywhere else—he was surprised
to hear that an unpublished libel might still b' made the sub-
ject of pro.ecution in the University of Oxford. He wished
to nik if this was the. law in Cambridge also ? He could

not uo quite along with the Noble Duke in g;ving power
to the University to do it hatever they plemed, even to
net upon a law of their own, in opposition of the law of the
:and.

Die Duke of WELLINGTON said, th►t if tle laws of
the liiiiverzity mete contrary to the laws of the land they
eoithl not he enforced. All this discussion showed the inu-
tility of discussing a subject bit by bit, or of discussing
the corners, instead of taking the %%hole matter into consider-

ation.
Lord BROUGHAM was aware that the statutes of the
University could not overrule the law of the land ; but though
contrary thereto, they might still be acted upon for the pur.
poses of discipline.
The Bishop of GLOUCESTER said he had never heard
of such a law as that described in the University of Cam-
bridge, and he was surprised to hear it said in the House of
Lords that Oxford had brought upon itself great discredit and
disgrace by C) pelting the illustrious philosopher Locke upon
a similar charge. The fact was, that the University had no-
thing to do with his expulsion. H was deprived of the Stu-
dentship of Christchurch by the Oart- of Sunderland, who held
subsequently a correspondence with Bishop Fell, which ulti-
mately led to the expulsion of Locke from the University by
the Crown, and by no other authority whatever.
MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND) BILL.

Viscount MELBOURNE said it was understood that the
Right Reverend Prelate (the Archbishop of Canterbury) was
to have precedence that evening with the Benefices Pluralities
but, as the Municipal Corporations (Ireland) Bill had
been before the }louse on two former occasions, and as he had
reason to think that there would not arise the same difference
of opinion as on former occasions, he would suggest that the
Bill should he read a second time sub silentio, and that the de-
bate should bo taken on going into Committee.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said it was not his inten-
tion to oppose the second reading, as the arneedments requisite
to make the Bill more conformable with the wants of Ireland
might be made in Committee.
The Earl of RODEN said it was impossible for him to
agree to the second reading of the Bill without distinctly
stating his total dissent from the measure. It was, he was
aware, inconvenient that he should at that moment state his
reasons, but it would be inconsistent on his part if he allowed
the Bill to be read a second time to which lie was formerly
opposed in principle, in common with Noble Lords near
him, for whose change of opinion he could perceive no ar-
guments whatever.
The Bill was then read a second time.

Oa the motion that it be committed on Thursday,
Lord BROUGHAM said, if there was any likelihood that
some agreement could be come to so as to allow the Bill to
pass, lie might be d:sposed to give way on his motion, which
stood fur Thursday, but, otherwise, he was so pledged to that
motion that he should nothke to postpone it.
Viscount MELBOURNE said the Noble and Learned
Lord must be aware, with reference to the great object in view,
how much more important it was that he should postpone his
motion than that this Bill should be endangered.
Lord BROUGHAM was aware of that, and in giving way
to it be wished it to be distinctly understood, both in doors and
out of doors, that he only gave way, and with much regret, to
this Bill, and he would, therefore, postpone his motion respect-
ing the West India Apprenticeships until Monday next.
The Committee on the Corporations Bill was then fixed for
Thursday next.