The Sun.
London, England, 1854-06-02 00:00:00

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assent to. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. WALPOLE believed they were all agreed as toit.ht: necessity of extending the benefits of the universityloall/
system of education ; but then came the question
that extension was to be accomplished. His own diffloolv. in this was this • the clause took the means or mode of et' tension out of the hands of the university authorities. Thy university had been actively engaged in extending its of.
tern of education, by throwing it open, not merely to 'lt
higher but to the middling or lower classes, and it was IP. fair or judicious to force upon them a system which Govern' ment thought best, in preference to the system which they
themselves felt to be best. He confessed that object° alone to the clause, if there were no other, and there CI:
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tainly were many, would be sufficient to make him vote
against it. In his opinion the clause was directly a'
variance with those which followed it.
Sir W. HEATHCOTE thought it his duty to vote for
the experiment which this clause was to effect. When a
looked to the increasing population of the country, st_ii, noticed that not one thousand persons matriculated each
year, he thought it was plain that something faulty existedl
in the university. He thought that the clause as it stood would meet the requirements of very many who were no"
excluded from Oxford. (Hear, hear.)
The committee divided--
For the clause ............... .......... .. ......... 205 i
For the amendment ........................... 113-94
The clause was then agreed to, as was also clause 27-
Lord J. RUSSELL said—As the house is tolerably foll',_
I will just state that it is proposed to make considerable alteration with regard to the remaining clauses of the bli"
The discussions which have taken place on parts coruPs,
ratively easy show that a very great length of time world
be occupied by discussing in detail the numerous clauses
that yet remain. Ido not propose at present to enter into
any explanation or discussion of the clauses which are Pre;
posed to be substituted ; but I will say in few words, thss
we propose that the commissioners shall have certain
Dowers which, if the colleges agree to them, or unless they
dissent from them by a majority of two-thirds, shall enable
the conh,lissioners to enact certain statutes in regard to the
colleges. The clauses which I propose to introduce for.
that purpose are four or five in number, making with
those that are retained 14 clauses to be disposed of ; °
that the whole number of clauses in the bill will be 42 lli'
stead of 68. Sixteen clauses, of very great detil, wl
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omitted. It is not my intention to state thea plan,il s,,T4'
less to discuss it, until the clauses are in a printed shape.
What I propose, therefore, is to add these clauses—omit'
ting the clauses that are to be left out—and going into
committee afresh ; or, if that course be not thought collo;
nient, give notice of the clauses, have them printed, and
to let them wait till Monday week, when we propose to
consider the bill again. I believe the most convenient
course would be to re-commit the bill, and to print it with
the amendments already agreed to by the committee,
power of course being reserved to re-discuss them-on the
report. lam prepared, however, to adopt any comaswhich may be deemed best. I now propose that the chair man should report progress, and that we should take the
bill pro forma to morrow.
Mr. WALPOLE, who was very indistinct, was under'
stood to say that his apprehension of the noble lord's
meaning was that the effect of the additional clauses would
be to give the commissioners the power of making certain
alterations, unless the colleges made them.
Lord J. RUSSELL said he did not know that the power
would bale commess confiissioners would be more extensive, but theY:
ned than they were as the bill stood at
present.