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SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS—(THIS EVENING.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at 5 o'clock.

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Lord COLVILLE presented petitions from Scotland
in favour of the Public•houses (Scotland) Bill.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from Glas-
gow in favour of the abolition of arrestment of wages
for debt.
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Lord DERBY presented a petition from Glasgow in
favour of the Public-houses (Scotland) Bill.
SUMMARY JURISDICTION BILL.

On the motion of the Marquis of CLA NRIC..A.RDE this
bill passed throug?-i committee.

PETTY. SESSIONS (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion of the Marquis of CLANRICARDE,
this bill also passed through committee.
• SUCCESSION DITTY BILL.
On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Lord ST. LEONAIZDS proceeded to offer a few re-
marks on the probable operation of the bill. It might cer-
tainly be said that it was not an unpopular bill, but the
fact that no petitions had been presented against the
bill, and simply even that few men understood it, and its
operation was not immediate. He would not treat the
question in a party spirit, for it was not a party question.
It was a bill which would affect the lords on each side of
the home equally. If it passed, he was sure that for the
future no noble lord would be able to tell at what mo-
ment it might affect him. With regard to settlements,
the bill would act as nothing better than confiscation.
[LEFT SPEAKING.]

HOUSE OF COMMONS--(THIS DAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at one o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lords' amendments to the following bills were
considered and agreed to :--British Electric Telegraph
Company, London and North-Western Railway (North-
ampton, &c.), London and North-Western Railway (St.
Alban's' &c.), West Harptry Road.
The following bills were read a third time and passed:
—Banbridge, Dublin, Newry, and Belfast Junction Rail-
way, Galway Improvement,ffarrington and Altrinchan
Junction Railway(Warrington, &c.), the Duke of Atholl's
Estate, &c.
EASTERN UNION RAILWAY.

Mr. COBBOLD moved that the amended special re-
port of the Eastern Union Railway Bill, and the third
reading be taken to-morrow.
Sir G. PECITELL and Mr. CARDWELL opposed the
latter part of the motion, and it was ultimately with-
drawn, and the former part was agreed to.
Sir G. PECHELL then moved that the third reading
be taken on Thursday next, and in the meantime that
the opponents of the bill be at liberty to point the evi-
dence—Agreed to.

PETITIONS.
Mr. MIALL presented a petition from a place in Lan-
cashire, praying for the repeal of the taxes on knowledge.
Mr. A. PELLATT presented a number of petitions
from dissenting bodies in Southwark against the opening
of the Crystal Palace on Sundays.
Mr. HADFIELD and other hon. members presented
petitions against the Government Education Bill.

ENTRY OF SEAMEN BILL.
On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Captain SCOBELL reminded the house that the bill
had arrived at its present stage without any statement
in explanation of it having been made to Parliament.
Now, he thought that was not right, and he hoped the
right hon. baronet the First Lord of the Admiralty
would take this opportunity of giving some explanation
of the nature and object of the bill.
Sir G. PECHELL did not think that any explana-
tion was necessary, as the object of the bill was suffi-
eiently welt understood. It was looked upon by seamen
as the charter of the navy, and he hoped no time would
be lost iu passing into a law.
Sir J. GRAHAM said it was from no want of cour-
tesy to the house that he had not yet entered into any
explanation of the object of the measure, but in the
present state of the session it was hardly advisable to
waste time with lengthened explanations. He might,
Lowey er, mention now, since this appeal had been made
to him, that the object of this bill was to increase the
the pay of the lower, second, and first class of seamen en-
te-ring her Majesty's service by ld., 2d., and 3d. a day,
which made it compulsory to grant a bounty of one-
fourth to seamen in cases of emergency, and leave the
amount to he paid to the discretion of the Government.
Sir G. TYLER hoped the Government would lay on
the table of the house such portions of the evidence taken
before the Naval Commission as would not be detrimen-
tal to the public service.
'Mr. A. STAFFORD said the evidence was of a pri-
vate and confidential character, and ought not to be pro-
duced.

Mr. WILLIAMS had never opposed any vote for the
purpose of making the navy deficient, but he was afraid
the service would never be in the state that it ought to
be until flogging was abolished, or, at all events, con-
siderably reduced. That mode of punishment had greatly
diminished in the army, and the consequence was the
service had become more perfect. The navy, however,
kept up the old, system, and the service was therefore
composed of second-class instead of first-class men. He
suggested that the same system of courts-martial which
prevailed in the army should be extended to the navy,
and then there would be some prospect of the service
being rendered efficient.
Mr. MACKINNON thought the French system of
manning the navy might with some advantage be ex-
tended to the British navy.
Lord MONK supported the proposal of establishing
courts-martial in the navy as well as the army.
Mr. HENLEY did not attribute the deficiency of
men in the navy to the system of punishments, but to
causes'connected with the pay.
Admiral BERKLEY declared that the fear of punish-
ment was not the cause of seamen not entering the navy.
The house some time ago reduced the navy by 5,000
men ; and now, when they wanted to increase the ser- ,
vice, they experienced a difficulty in recruiting it, from
the temptations which the activity of the merchant ser-
vice offered to seamen.

The house then went into committee.
On the question that the preamble be postponed,
Captain SCOBBELL said the house would do more
towards manning the navy by resorting to a system of
encouragement than one of punishment. At present,
the amount of punishment depended very much upon the
temperament of the commanding officer, and it was,
therefore, requisite that some limit should be put upon
his power in that respect. There ought also to be a
redistribution of prize money, for, under the present
system, the flag officer got too much and the seaman too
little.

it Sir J. GRAHAM contended that the condition of
the sailor was, if possible, superior to that of
the soldier, and in many respects he was infi-
nitely better off. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the
question of punishment the Admiralty imposed the
strictetit checks upon the commanding officers, and they
were required to give the fullest returns of all cases
where they had recourse to corporal punishment.
7'l' ere was a wide difference between the position
a commander in the army and in the navy,
and that difference in their circumstances rendered it
necessary that the power of inflicting punishment should
be concentrated in one hand. This bill proceeded upon
the assumption that there should be a large body of
seamen constantly employed for a period of 10 years,
and that during that period the seamen should be well
paid. The experience of recent years proved that such
A measure wa3 the best that could be adopted
'for the
interest of the service and the country, and he hoped
the committee would be unanimous in passing its details.
Admiral WALCOTT approved of the bill generally,
but he would suggest that the period of service should
be extended from 10 to 20 years,
s.)e an entry of 1,000 boys and that there should
made every year in the na
Sir J. GRAHAM did not think
it would vy.
y be advi-
admeral.
sabl to accede to the proposal of the hots. and gallant
i
In answer to Sir DE LACY EVANS,
Sir J. GRAHAM said the Crown had power to offer
In answer to Sir J. in order to raise men on an emergency.
WALMSLEY,
Sir J. GRAHAM, after giving the subject his most
careful consideration, was not prepared to commend
the institution of courts martial for the trial of the men
as was the case in the army. It was essential to the
maintenance of discipline that all the power on board
ship should be placed in the hands of one man.
Clause 1 was then agreed to.
On clause 2, in answer to Sir T. D. ACLAND,
Sir J. GRAHAM,said he was not aware that there
had not been any diminution in the number of African
boys on the slave trade squadron.

Clause 2 was agreed to, and were also the remaining
clauses of the bill, and the house resumed.

Mr. WILLIAMS took the oaths and his seat for
West Cornwall.
The house then adjourned until six o'clock.
The house resumed at six o'clock, and was