The Sun.
London, England, 1854-06-17 00:00:00

PETITIONS.

Saveral- petitions were presented against the opening
of the public-houses on Sundays. A number of petitions
were also presented, praying for the abolition of Church
rates.

Colonel BLAIR presented a petition from a place
in S7,ottand against the Manses and Glebes Bill.
VALUATION OF LAND (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The Iton'se went into committee on this big. The
details gave rise to considerable discussion; but they were
of no general interet whatever, except to the distant
part of the country to which the measure relates.

The Chairman reported progress before 3 o'clock,
at which the house adjourned until 5 o'clock,
The house resumed at 5 o'clock.
•ROYAL COMMISSION.
Mr. PULDIAN, the Yeoman Usher of the Black
Rod, appeared at the table, and summoned the house
to attenctat- the bar of the Peers, to hear the Royal as-
sent given by, commission to several public and private
acts, for which see Lords' report.

PETITIONS.
Petitions were presented by Mr. BECKETT in favour
of a Ten Hours' Factory Bill ; Mr. SMITH, and other
Hon. Members, praying for the Abolition of Church
Rates ; Mr. COBBETT (27) from places in Lancashire in
favour of a Ten'Hours' Bill ; Mr. V. SMITH from Vis-
count ABBINGTONJ praying the house to disfranchise
certain eltctors ofßarnstaple ; Mr. TOLLEMACHE, from
various places in Cheshire, in . favour of a Ten Hours'
Bill ; Sir JAMES GRAHAM, from the Mayor and Cor-
'Poration of Carlisle, against the Consolidation of County
and Town Pvlice Lill ; Mr. Loma Kirro, from Surrey,
praying for the abolition of Church Rates ; and Sir
11'1317:ROY
,KEYr4,, against, the consolidation of the Police

Mr. MTSITLIDATIO.7 OF POLICE- BILL.
asked the' noble lord the Secretary of
State whether belintended to move the second reading of
this bill on brio
Lord PA.LaataYO,,T,
hat it would depen i,„,- -•°Ped he should be able to do so,
friend the President rti the arrangements of his noble
Arr. BRIGHT insi°sietdiet /i)lintheiel.second not to be till taken on a -dhaaytwhich Wo - - reading ought
not 'lit:bruin: itadmit of
its being amply discussed.
Lord PALMERSTON promise
cept at a time when there would ble wimple .on, ex-
discussion.
SirH.WILLOUGHBY asked the noble
PPortunity for
amount of
estimate or calculation has been madeelthe lord if any
charge to bo imposed on the counties of
Wales by the police rate under the Police .13i111844., and
any estimate or calculation has been made, whether he
and and
if
will place the same upon the table of the house.
Lord PALMERSTON said no calculation had been
made of the expense to be incurred, and for this reason he
was of opinion that on the whole a good system of polio,
was an economy to a county, as it saved money in the pre
vention of plunder and criminal proceedings.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY asked the noble lord if he had
any objection to lay upon the table an estimate of the pre-
sent cost of the.connty police.
Lord FALNIENSTON thought there would be no ob-
jection to such a return if the hon. bart. would move for
it.

SLIGO ELECTION.
Colonel BLAIR inoVed that a copy of the evidence taken
bpicro the last Sligo Election Committee be laid before the
hen in.

Mr VERNON SMITH opposed the motion, as being
brought forward in an irregular manner, and would entail
• conotderable expense. -
Colonel BLAIR said, under these circumstances he
not press the motion.
• . THE OFIA.NGES IN. THE GOVERNMENT.
Lord D. STUART, referring to the late changes in the
Government, gave notice that on Monday next or some
other evenin oft going into supply, he should ask for some
explanations on. he recent changes in the Government.
L 035 OF THE EUROPA.
fu reply to a question from Viscount JOCELYN,
bir J. GRAHAM said, he grieved to say that this morn-
ing he received a report with reference to the loss of the
Europa, which confirmed the melancholy fact that that
ship had been burnt on her passage to Gibraltar.
The statement had been received at tho Admiralty
this morning, • and -would be.. COMiantliCated in detail

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:—That on
811°Xe statementmorning of
the Ist Juno, the captain of a ship near Gibraltar observed
a sumke. which led hi.o to b .F•a3 o,lv, a ship was on fire.
burnt clown to the water's cage, and no living person on
He b' re down towards the w:ock, awl round the vessel
board. Havingendeavoured, by sailing round the wreck,
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Out of a number of passengers amounting to 87, 50 of
whom were soldiers and 21 sailors, comprising the crew,
etc.—out of the whole 87, 21 had unhappily lost their
lives. (Sensation.) The house would be grieved to hear
that among the officers so lost was Colonel Moore, the com-
manding officer of the Enniskillen Dragoons--(renewed
sensation)—who in the most devoted manner refused to
leave the ship. The circumstances which gave rise to the
fire were still doubtful, but an investigation would take
place at Gibraltar. He (Sir J. Graham) should not be
discharging his duty if he did not state that
there were circumstances with respect to the conduct of
the sailors which were highly unsatisfactory. The whole
of the officers and sailors of the ship's crew effected their
escape immediately after the commencement of the fire,
with the exception of the master of the transport, the
carpenter, and one sailor. With that exception, the con-
duct of the sailors did not appear to be satisfactory, and
must lead to a full and searching investigation. (Hear.)
Mr. OT WAY asked whether the loss of the Colonel and
other officers was owing to the want of a sufficient number
of boats on board the vessel.
Sir J. GRAHAM replied in the negative ; the transport
was supplied with a full complement of safety boats, and
every care was taken to secure her magazine from fire as in
the case of a ship of war.
MUSSULMAN RELIGION.
Mr. BINNAIRD wished to ask whether the Govern-
ment have had any correspondence with Lord Strat-
ford de Redeliffe, with reference to the !law, which
still exists in Turkey, that if any Mussulman (not a
renegade Christian) embrace Christianity he would
be liable to the penalty of death ; and, if so, whether he
would object to a copy of such correspondence being laid
on the table of the house?
Lord J. RUSSELL replied that no correspondence had
taken place on the subject.
OXFORD UNIVERSITY BILL.

The house went into committee ontho Oxford University
Bill, resuming at clause 33, which was agreed to, as after
discussion were the succeeding clauses up to clause 40 in-
clusive. On clause 41, which provides that persons becom-
ing members of any college after the passing of the act shall
not possess vested interests, a division was taken and the
clause was carried by 86 to 39.
The two remaining clauses of the bill were agreed to.
The schedule, which contains the names of officers who are
to form part of congregation, was agreed to.
Mr. G. VERNON moved the addition of two clauses,
one providing that a register of the names of members of
convocation should be kept by a bedel and be freely acces-
sible ; and the other, that graduates who had made all
necessary payments previously to their having taken a de-
gree entitling them to be members of convocation, should
not be required to make other payments as a condition of
qualification.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought
that these were matters of detail with which Parliament
should not be asked to interfere.
The clauses were w.thdrawn.
Mr. R. PALMER moved a clause providing that in case
of the proposed abolition of any privilegebr right of pre-
ference belonging to any school, notice should be given to
the Charitable Trust Commissioners, who should. have a

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certain veto.
gone
ear enough in according the right of dissent, and ob-
jecting CHANCELLOR
contending
that
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odsye gol
jecting that the clause proposed to go further than thecom-
quite f
mittee had previously done, and to give a veto to trustees
of schools, a body entirely dissimilar from the governing
bodies of the colleges,
Sir W. HEATHCOTE supported the clause.
Lord J. RUSSELL opposed it, asd contended that the
bill as it stood effectually protected the rights of the
schools.
Mr. WALPOLE considered that the clause was desirable
in order to reader clear the provisions made for the pro-
tection of rights which ought not to be endangered.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL argued against the pro-
posed clause, and denied that the powers of the bill as it
stood were t, .o large or mischievous.
Sir T. D. ACLAND energetically asserted that the bill
injustic- on parties who did not deserve to be so
treated, and who would have no fair hearing.
Mr. PALER replied, contending, that there was no
effident protection given to the schools, which he avowed
it was his object to preserve.
After a warm discussion between the CHANCELLOR of
the EXCHEQUER and Mr. P.:11,3/ER, as to the bearing of the
clause in the cape of one school dissenting while others
taking under a similar title assented,
Admiral WALCOTT went through a long list of the
great men who had been brought up at the public schools,
as an argument for preserving them.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER begged for
further explanations, but his appeal was drowned in the
clamour of the Opposition for a division.
The committee divided, and the numbers were—
For the clause l6O
Against it lOB
Majority against Government --52
The clause, with an alteration suggested by Mr.Wigram,
was agreed to.
Mr. HENLEY, declaring that everybody was worn
out, moved that progress should be reported, which was
agn.ed to.
The house resumed:
SUPPLY. --MORNING SITTINGS.
Lord J. RUSSELL moved the order of the day for com-
mittee of supply.
Sir J. PAKINGTON hoped to be excused if he now made
an appeal both to the noble lord and to the house with regard
to the present system of morning sittings. He admitted
that in order to expedite business it might be advisable to
have morning sittings, but he felt very strongly that they
ought only to beadopted with thegeneral concurrence of the
house, and subject to fixed rules, such as applied to the
Wednesday sittings. He would submit to the noble lord
whether it would not be advisable that they should be
adopted by resolution of the house, as they had already
agreed to take orders of the day on Thursdays. He would
suggest further that the hours of sittings should be fixed
and definite, and that they should limit themselves as much
as possible to taking bills in committee only. As, also,
that when the house met at 12 o'clock in the day, no fresh
business should be brought on after 12 o'clock at night.
Lord J. RUSSELL hoped the house would not fetter
itself too much by resolutions. It appeared to him that the
days of morning sittings should be fixed rather according
to the quantity of business before the house, and the desire
of the house to get through it speedily. It seemed to him
that at this time of the session to have morning sittings on
Tuesdays and Thursdays only was quite sufficient, though
towards the end of the session it had been usual to have
them on Fridays, also, and sometimes on Mondays. The
arrangement now madeC as to the hours of sitting was
adopted in. 1851 or 1852, and was deemed much more con-
venient than the former one, under which the house rose
sometimes at two, three, four, or five o'clock, and the
members did not know when they would reassemble for
the evening sitting, whereas at present it was now fixed
that they should resume business at five or six o'clock.
Ho did not give a positive opinion as 'to the necessity of
maintaining the present arrangement ; and if any improve-
ment on it could be male, he shonld not be unwilling to
consent to the alteration. He thought it was desirable
that when there was a morning sitting, the private busi-
ness should be taken at 12 o'clock, in order that when the
house met in the afternoon, it might at once proceed to
pi-Odic business.
Mr. HENLEY concurred with the noble lord that they
would go on as well or better without a formal resolution
with respect to the days on which morning sittings should
be held. He thought, however, that some arrangement
should be made by which members might know at what
time the house would resume in the evening. (Hear.)
Li reply to a question from Mr. BASS,
Lord J. RUSSELL said he thought it was very de-
sirable that when there was a morning sitting, no fresh
business should be taken after 12 o'clock at night; but
ho did not think it desirable to pass a formal resolution
on the point.
After a few words from Mr. BOUVERIE,
The house resumed.
'IIIE CUSTOMS DUTIES (SUGAR) BILL.

The Customs Duties (Sugar) Bill was then read a third
time and passed. -
THE EXCISE DUTIES (SUGAR) BILL.
The-house then went into committee upon this bill, the
seve. al clauses of which were agreed to.
Mr. WILSON brought up certain additional clauses, on
which • _

Sir W. JOI:LIFFE asked for an explanation of the object
of the clause.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
licenses were to bo givaa to brewers to use sugar in their
breweriel, on payment of a small tax The object was not
to raise revenue, but to enable the department of Inland
Revenue to keep in view the brewers who used sugar for
the purposes of their trade. It would not be necessary to
appoint a single additional clerk in consequence of this
measure.

The clause was then agreed to, as were also several other
new clause,, and the home resumed.-
JUDGMENT EXECUTION, Ace., BILL.
The order of the day for going into committee on this
bill was read, and postponed tilt Wednesday next:
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS BILL.

On the motion of Mr. R. PHILLIMORE,
This bill was read a third time and passed.
VALUATION OF LANDS (SCOTLAND) BILL.

The house then went into committee on this bill, when
Mr. CRAUFURD moved that the Chairman report pro-
gress.

a few clauses in the bill to be gone through, and he hoped
The LORD ADVOCATE said that there only remained
they would be allowed to pass through committee that
night.
The committee divided—
For reporting progress
Against it ...
On the 36th clause being proposed, by which it is enacted
that shooting o•-grounds shall only be valued for taxation
when let to a tenant,
Mr. DUNCAN moved an amendment for the purpose of
having such lands valued for taxation, even when retained
in the hands of the proprietor.
The committee divided—
The clausens was agreed
For the clause
57'
Agait it
25-32
to, as were also the remaining
portions of the bill. ' The house rearm-lel, and it was ordered that the bill
should bo recommitted.
Mr. OLIVEIB. it was agro
METROPOLITAN BRIDGES.
On the motion of
it should be an instruction to the committee' on meetaro tan bridges to extend their inquiry to the bridges the
p thato
ii.
Thames within the area subject to the coal tax.
over
The house adjourned at half-past one o'cle
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