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London, England, 1853-04-27 00:00:00

I MPERIA L PA RLIA3IO

HOUSE OF COMMONS--(THIS DAY)
The SPEAKER took the chair at twelve o'clock.
The Reading Market and Weston-Super-Maru SY
works Bills were considered and agreed to.
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Mr. W. EVANS presented a petition against
Rates.
Mr. FITZGERALD presented a petition from E°"
against
BAIRD the Advertisement Duty.
Mr. presented a petition in favour of
Public House (Scotland) Bill.
On the motion of Mr. BENNET, the evidence ees
before the Huddersfield Election Committee was°'
to be printed.
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ATTORNEYS' CERTIFICATE DUTY BIL
On the order of the day for the second reading of
bill being read, 11)
Lord R. GROSVENOR said that since this bill
been introduced, the Chancellor of the Exchequer
declared his intention to-deal with the tax ; and (3/!-;i
turday last he (Lord R. Grosvenor) had acconaPn",O
deputation of professional gentlemen to the Chan'
of the Exchequer to lay before him the reason wild
were dissatisfied with the measure of reduction prOc.
They hoped that before the time that the resolute
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right hon. gentleman came before the house, the,)
sons laid before him would induce him to yield to
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wishes or else to state that it was the intention
Government to propose this partial reduction previ°:
a further reduction, and finally a total abolition °'
tax. If neither of those alternatives should be ado,
it would be his duty to propose an amen at,
to the resolution of the right hon. gentleman Pleu
the house to the abolition of the duty. He should,
fore, postpone the second reading until Wednesday
Ist of June.
Mr. BASS said he had always opposed the nlO-,
the noble lord, not because he saw any peculiar P'
in a tax on . attorneys' certificates, but because
trades and professions being taxed in a similar rua
he saw no reason why attorneys should be the first
relieved. The Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exelle4
it appeared, proposed to reduce the tax upon attol
but he also proposed to impose upon seven other bra
of-trade very important restrictions. He was inforrne'c
the certificate duty to be imposed upon Barclay an
would amount to 2,850/., while the whole amount
was to be raised from brewers and misters 1$
amount to no less a sum than 100000/. He under!
that so great were the difficulties anticipated in the
tical operation that the right hon. gentleman had
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taken to reconsider this part of his proposition, an
fact it amounted in plain English to an additional'
tax of 100,0001., he thought it very desirable tha
subject should be well and duly considered in 1
bearings. He had no objection to such a capitation
if it were made general, but if it were confined to
branches of trade only, it was nothing less than (0
cation and communism.
Captain SCOBELL said that he had also 84.
representations to make with respect to the tel
tobacco dealers, but as he understood the Chance
the Exchequer had undertaken to reconsider 00
tion of his scheme, he should postpone his remark'
the present.
The second reading of the bill was then 'Ot
until Wednesday, the Ist of June.
AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS BILL.
The report on this bill was brought up and agree;
Mr. FITZROY brought up several new clause
ing reference to costs and the removal of indictrool
writs of certiorari, which were agreed to.
JUDGES' EXCLUSION BILL.
The report on this bill was agreed to.
ABSCONDING DEBTORS' BILL.
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The second reading of this bill was postponed
Wednesday next.

COUNTY RATES EXPENDITURE B 111;
The further progress in committee of this la
postponed until this day week.
SOUTH SEA. AND OTHER ANNTJITI°;
COMMUTATION BILL.
On the motion for the third readino, of this bill,
Sir. F. KELLY, after apologising for his absen f
night, when the bill was brought under the consich 1
of the house at a late hour, which was entirely 01
his ignorance that the bill was on the notice paPer:',
portant as the measure was it was most desirablii
it should not be hurried through with too great l'lsi
precipitation. (Hear.) He had two clauses to prop/
one to regulate the mode of conversion of
by parties beneficially interested or trustees. it
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQILv"w
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that a clause had been prepared to carry out the
which the hon. and learned gentleman had in vied
as the Solicitor-General, who had drawn it up,
the moment absent, perhaps the hon. and learnedfi
man would postpone moving his first clause 1111
return of the Solicitor-General.
Sir FITZROY KELLY said he would 1/1191
postpone his first clause, and proceed to the °V!,
which was to limit the creation of two-and-a-113e
cent. stock (proposal No. 2) to ten millions.
lieved that there was no instance of any great opell
shown, as was proposed by the Government, ~
been effected solely by the means, and at the ra," Or
absolutely by the Finance Minister. The usua.L,,,
was to submit the bargain to public competitio 41,r4
in this mode it was easily ascertained what wej r„
lowest terms on which the public were willing tc'A
the operation. Either the Chancellor of the B.gel
ev, ic;;
possessed the gift of divination to which otherti;
strangers, or else he was advancing b1ind19.0.% 'i'd
therefore, wished
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operation. li
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The CHANCELLOR of the ExCHEQICI:I sa: 'IP
objected to the proposal of the hon. and learned ,
man, both on the ground of precedent and reason, it
must give a most unqualified and positive denial y
statement of the hon. and learned gentleman, that ;
was no instance of a Finance Minister having proo /
in the manner in which he now
proposed to actlf!
point of fact, he was persuaded that he was n°9llf,
suing the very course i which had always f,
proposed in cases of conversion of stock. No e-'O,
in point of technical law, the stock which they f
about to create was a new stock ; but in fact it :/
mere conversion, and not creation, of stock villicto
were about to effect. He admitted that the ExesiA
Bonds which he proposed to create were a net ,i 7
but here lie proposed not a fixed rate, but ace°d,l
to what could be obtained in the market, due ca
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course being taken of the interest of the public. f,
regard to the reasonableness of the hon. and I.oev,
gentleman's proposition, he contended that there 0 t
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market been such a thing own as to raise moue)" ~,, I
market for the purpose of applying it to the extie fVf
of stock. In doing that, the Chancellor of tl tio,ti,
chequer would be creating just an artificial 8c?oli'l.1
in the market by going into it 'to vi
30,000,0001., and then directly after an artifiCl3 1,
when he went in to pay off the stock. Such aPI '.j;l
ing would be most irrational, and cause enorinoilY
to the public. The operation which was now Pr°,,,;
would not, in fact, increase the amount of debt, ,`f vf
fund which would be at the same time provided 'lif
house would reduce the debt to a much greater 55e
than that by which it would be necessarily incre3,!,,,
this operation. If the operation were limited to
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proposed by the hon, and learned gentleman it w°lol',
much too small ever to come properly into the view r{;
public, and would not afford a fair test of the vi°,o,
of the principle on which it was founded. The oil 1(
of the hon. member for Huntingdon (Mr. Bariof,:),,,
spoke on Friday night in favour of the hon. and
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gentleman's motion, was that oven 30,000,0001. ":„(1;",,
small a sum fairly to test the principle, and 1 64"
Chancellor of the Exchequer) could certainly 11`? ,
sent to redude its scope to 10,000,0001, alone.
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Mr. HUME thought the mode of operation N"'
, very best which could be adopted.
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Mr. SPOONER said that the barmain was a w„f" PI 1
altogether, and a great deal too much in favour '""
capitalist.

[LEFT SITTING.]

COURT CIRCULAR.

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Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent yisl
Majesty yesterday afternoon at Buckingham Pak'tit
His
.Royal Highness Prince Albert presided Yes"f
morning at the Council for the. Management °A
Duchy of Cornwall, at the Duchy-office, Solillse
house. His Royal Highness was attended by the
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C. B. Phipps.
' The Cr de itlt ,

'ountess of Mount Edgcumbe ha 3 succect*
Viscountess Canning in her duties as the lady in
to her Majesty. Dorel
His Royal Highness Prince Albert rode out 00,10100
back yesterday afternoon attended by Lieutenant"'
F. H. Seymour. • corof
Rix. Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent,
ip'ide
panied by her Serene Highness the Princess Ade'lle, pP
Hohenlohe, went to Claremont yesterday morniNo A
visited the Countess de Neuilly and the Frenelii,"
Family. The Royal Duchess returned to G'"-
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House, St. James's, in the afternoon. VI 0
Their Royal .Highnesses the Duchess of e_tatiice
and the Princess Mary dined with her R0ya1,,,-',7 0;0
the Duchess of Gloucester at her residence. 11-'°-es3
House, Piccadilly, on Monday. Her Royal Trigh°-evicipi
Duchess of Kent joined the royal circle in the Jo°
Mr. Hutt, M.P., had an interview with the
Newcastle yesterday, at the Colonial-office.
Dispatches were sent yesterday from the C°
office to the Governor of Gibraltar.

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THE BUDGET.—MEETING IN SOUTHWAItg."--5 GOD
dayj a meeting of the inhabitants of Southvvar':,it
versed by the High Bailiff, in pursuance of a recl—:ll8ld
signed by a large number of the inhabitants, w3-eseiri°
at the Town Hall, to consider the propriety of 'Lae!
ing a petition to Parliament in favour of the,i'ed
and praying that the whole might speedily be 'la tP,te
a law ; William Pritchard, Esq.. the High obje,),
chair. The chairman having briefly stated tuiiic
for which the meeting was convened, Dr. Cll3—ithe
dressed the meeting, and said that he acreeci
terms expressed by Mr. Hume and Mr. 'rVilliarest Dtio
the budget, taken as a whole, was one of the ,19e50001!
gets that had been laid before the House of t', :t
for many years. He moved a resolution to th- her 10'
Mr. Wilson seconded the resolution. Mr. Arc fl;t
dresspd the meeting, agreeing with the reSOlUtiOne 30,brilf
as it went, but at the same time he thought theraitioo
to be some expression of objection to the ill.,°"celice4
a tax on inumaes of 1001., aid the increase 0-011,,4,
and moved an amendment to that effect. Mr' get" -
Mr. Sturmey, Mr. Hearne and several other
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men, having addressed the Meeting, the original kuere'
tion was carried, and a -)etition, in accodarle°
with, agreed to.