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THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 17, 1853.

INIPERIAL PARLIAAIENT.

observe a railway train to see that coke put on
rudely did emit smoke ; and he, therefore, should pro-
pose to limit the exemption to cases in which no smoke
was caused. He thought no one could object to those
amendments ; but if they endangered the passing of
the bill, he trusted the Government would at once give
them up.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE approved of the
amendments, and had no objection to their introduction,
upon the understanding that, if objected to elsewhere,
they should be given up. He reminded the noble lord
that, with respect to glass works and potteries, the bill
would apply to those parts of the works which created
the most noxious smoke.
The amendments were then agreed to, and the report
received.
The Stock in Trade Exemption Bill, the Customs Tariff
Act Bill, and the Customs Consolidation Act Bill seve-
rally passed through committee, and were reported.
On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, the
Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Bill was read the second time.
Their lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the wool-
sack at 5 o'clock.

MAJOR MOORE.
Earl GRANVILLE slid he was sorry again to have
to trouble their lordships on the subject of India, but
he wished to say a few words in explanation of a state-
ment affecting a gentleman, not a member of their lord-
ships' house, and who therefore was unable to offer any
personal
explanation for himself. It had been stated
that Major Moore, the military secretary at Hyderabad,
had warned certain persons of the risk of lending money
to the Government of the Nizam, and a noble lord, not
now present, inquired if the Major Moore referred to
was the person who had received a pension from the
Nizam. He had received a letter from Major Moore,
enclosing certain correspondence on the subject, of
which he would read an abstract. The first letter, dated
Bth November, 1838, was from Major Moore to the
resident at Hyderabad, General Fraser, enclosing a
medical certificate of illness, which obliged him to re-
sign. The second letter, dated 29th November, 1838,
was from the resident to the secretary of the Governor-
General, enclosing papers which he states bear ample
testimony to the distinguished merits of Major Moore,
and expressing his sincere concurrence in the favourable
sentiments respecting him expressed by the Governor-
General's commands respecting a pension of 600 rupees
a month, which was spontaneously proposed to be given
by the Nizam's Government, who were impressed with
a sense of the advantage which the state had derived
from Major Moore's services. The third letter, dated
December 27, 1838, was from the secretary of the Go-
vernor-General, in which it is stated that his lordship re-
grets the loss to the service caused by the retirement of
so excellent an officer as Major Moore ; and bears testi-
mony to the worth, zeal, and intelligence of so distin-
guished a servant of the Government, but declines to
sanction the acceptance of this honourable and well-
earned distinction, because, as a matter of precedent,
his lordship felt that it would be extremely imprudent
for the local Government to admit the pensioning of
British officers by the Nizam's Government. Under the
circumstances of Major Moore's long service and high
character, his lordship has no objection to submit the
offer for the orders of the Court of Directors. The
Court of Directors, in a political dispatch, dated Dec.
24, 1839, state that it appears to them that the insuper-
able objection which would exist to the pensioning of an
officer in our own service by the Nizam's Government,
does not exist in the case of the local officers. These
officers have no personal claim to a pension from any
other quarter. As a body they are becoming gradually
extinct, and they should be unwilling to stand between
them and the spontaneous bounty and gratitude of the
Nizam's Government, especially where those services
have been so eminent as those which Major Moore has
rendered to that Government as well in other forms as
in the form of saving expense. They therefore sanction
the acceptance by Major Moore of the pension offered
to him by the Nizam's Government.
PETITIONS.
Lord ST. LEONARDS presented a petition from
Birmingham against the South Sea Arrangement Bill.
SECOND READINGS.
The following bills were read a second time :
Consolidated Fund Appropriation, Militia Pay,
Land Tax Redemption Act Amendment, South
Sea and other Annuities Provision for Payment, &c. ;
Apprehension of Offenders Act Amendment, Bet-
ting Houses, Commons In closure (No. 2), Female
Convicts, Loan Societies, Holy Trinity Church (Hulme),
Validity Marriages, Friendly Societies ; Copyhold, &c.,
Commission Continuance, and Metropoitan Sewers Acts
Continuance.
The following bills went through committee, and
were ordered to be read a third time :—Land. Tax Com-
missioners' Names, Coin Defacing ; Linen, &c., Manu-
factures (Ireland) ; Militia Ballots Suspension and Mili-
tia Law Amendment.
PILOTAGE BILL.

ROUSE OF COMMONS—(YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at three o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lords' amendments to the followity2; bills were
considered and agreed to :—Warrington and Altrincham
Junction Rail way (Warrington, &c.) ; Coleford, Mon-

mouth, Usk, and Pontypool-Railway.
Ruslibrouke's Divorce Bill was read a third time and
passed.
CIVIL LAW (CHANNEL ISLANDS).
Lord D. STUART ask d the Secretary of State for
the Home Department whether, in conformity with the
intention announced by the Government in 1846, an in-
quiry had been instituted into the civil law of the Chan-
nel Islands ;"!and, if not, whether it was the intention of
the present Government to institute any such inquiry ?
Lord PALMERSTON said an able commission had
been appointed to inquire into the criminal law of the
islands, and they had made a report on the subject ;
but he had not yet had time to master its details. It
was not the intention of the Government at present to
master its details. It was not the intention of the
Government at present to issue a commission respecting
the criminal law.
ISSUE OF HALF-CROWNS.
Mr. OLIVEIRA, in reference to the report of
the committee upon decimal currency, and the inconve-
nience felt by bankers and traders by the circulation of
half-crowns and florins at the same time, asked the
Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it might not be
desirable for the commercial interest and the public
generally to give orders from the Treasury to the Bank
of England to discontinue any further issue of half-
crowns, and to allow to be exchanged at the Mint all
half-crowns that may be paid into the Bank for silver
coins of other denominations, so as gradually to with-
draw half-crowns from circulation?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said no
half-crowns had been coined by the Mint since 1850, and
no further issue would take place until the Government
had taken into consideration the report of the committee
on decimal coinage.
REDUCTION OF DUTY ON SALT IN INDIA.
Sir J. PAKINGTON asked the President of the
Board of Control whether it was the intention of her
Majesty's Government to effect any change in the mode
of levying a duty upon salt manufactured in India, and
whether they intended to make any reduction in the
amount of duty now paid by salt in India, whether im-
ported or manufactured in that country?
Sir C. WOOD said he had little more to add to what
he had already stated on the subject. He was as anxious
as the right hon. gentleman for the reduction of the
duty on salt, but he was not prepared to direct any re-
duction, because that was a matter which must be left
to the discretion of the Government of India, having
reference to the state of the finances of the country.
(Hear, hear.) In consevence of the conclusion
of the hostilities in Burmah, the Governor-Gene-
ral would be enabled to considerably reduce the ex-
in a position to diminish the y dut Hear.)
Sir J. PAKINGTON was boundalt to say that the
penditure of the country, and he hoped he would be
answer, so far as it went, was satisfactory, but he gave
onuoldt dreovnievebyitthaegaGinovueorxnt-
nmootui notice e
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ow aws

The report of the amendments to this bill was con
sidered and agreed to.
THIRD READINGS.
The following bills were read a third time and passed
Merchant Shipping ; Drainage of Lands (Ireland)
Act Amendment ; Universities (Scotland) ; Employ.
ment of Children in Factories ; Public Works Acts
Amendments (Ireland.)
UNIVERSITIES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The Earl of ABERDEEN moved the third reading of
this bill.
The Earl of HADDINGTON said, in the only one of
the public journals which he had seen to-day, there was
a very short reference to the observations he made last
evening upon going into committee on this bill, giving a
colouring of his opinions which he felt absolutely under
the necessity of removing, as he did not wish to be mis-
understood on a question which excited a great deal of
interest in Scotland. It was stated in that journal that
he said that he thought the negative test in the present
bill was a better thing than a religious test. That was
not what he said. What he did say was, that he consi-
dered the negative test in the present bill—the declara-
tion in the present bill—without a religious test, a better
practical security for the Church of Scotland than a
general religious test would be, such as there could be
any hope of carrying without the declaration. He might
have added, and he thought he did add, that he thought
a negative test a better practical security to the Church
than the present test, which was a farce, seeing that it
was quite inoperative. Those were the opinions he ex-
pressed, and which, in the journal to which he referred,
had. been misrepresented. He also stated that he consi-
dered, not only upon general grounds, but because of the
agitation which now existed in Scotland, a religious test
was clue to the Church of Scotland. Such a religious
test he afterwards took the trouble of moving in com-
mittee, but no reference was made in that journal to that
amendment ; and it was also stated, in another part of
the same paper, that the noble duke (the Duke of Ar-
gyll) opposed the bill proposed by the noble earl (the
Earl of Aberdeen). With a view of having that amend-
ment put, he should, after the third reading, and before
the bill passed, go through the form of moving it.
The bill was then read a third time.
On the question that it pass,
The Earl of HADDINGTON moved the amendment
to which he had referred, which was negatived, and the
bill passed.

session.
PASTORAL RUNS IN VICTORIA.
Sir J. PAKINGTON asked the Under Secretary for
the Colonies, whether it was the intention of her Majesty's
Government to propose any alteration of the order iu
council under which the tenants of pastoral runs, in the
colony of Victoria, are entitled to claim leases, or to
send any new instructions to the governor on the sub-
ject of those leases ; and whetherbe would lay on the table
of the house all correspondence which has taken place
between the Colonial-office and the Governor of Victoria,
with respect to the rights and claims of the holders of
licenses for the occupation of such lands.
Mr. F. PEEL said this was one of the most import-
ant and difficult questions at present under the conside-
ration of the Government with respect to the Colonies.
He was unable to say what course they would take, but
it was their intention to dispose of it before the waste
lands were handed over to the local legislature, and all
papers would be laid on the table which were necessary
to enable Parliament to form an opinion upon the
subject.

COINAGE.

In reply to Mr. THORNELEY,
Mr. WILSON exculpated the authorities of the Min
for any blame in regard to the supply of coin, and stated
that copper, silver, and gold coin to a considerable
amount had just been issued in order to meet the wants
of the country and the colonies.
HACKNEY CARRIAGES BILL.
Mr. WILSON said, it was now his duty to call the
attention of the house to the title of a bill which went
up a few days ago to the other House of Parliament.
The bill, which was lost last night, was the Hackney
Carriage Duties Bill. He ought to state that in the last
stages of the bill in that house an amendment was intro-
duced with respect to section 13, which altered a pre-
vious provision as to the hiring of carriagets b
aueyond a
circle of four miles. He was informed by he thori-
ties at the Home-office, who had been in communication
with the cabmen, that they had a distinct understanding
that the clause as it stood should be a concession made
to the cabmen. Under these circumstances, the autho-
rities at the Home-office, who had been in communica-
tion with the cabmen, felt that it would be a breach of
faith on their part were the house not to carry out this
provision. He should, therefore, move that a committee
be appointed to search the journals of the Lords in refer-
ence to the Hackney Carriage Duties Bill, and make a
report to the house.
The motion was agreed to.
RUSSIA AND TURKEY.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, having presented certain papers
regarding the relations of foreign states with the Court of
Rome, proceeded to say :—Sir, I now rise to propose that
this house at its rising do adjourn till Friday next. I have
already stated that before the prorogation of Parliament I
would endeavour to make some explanation to the lions,
of the relations at present subsisting between Russia and
Turkey. I have to thank the house for its forbearance
during the present session ; and in anything that I may
have to say I shall not enter into anything which may be
considered to be a defence of her Majesty's Government,
because her Majesty's Government has not been attacked
in this house. On the contrary, I think every
disposition
has been shown to leave in the bands of
neg her Ma
atije ons sty's
Executive Government the conduct of the oti in
this important case. (Hear.) I have a few words to say,
however, as to the production of the papers which some
members of this house think ought to have be nev e laid on
the table. Upon that subject I will say that on reverting
to what has been done on previous occasions, even in cir-
cumstances exceedingly critical, I have not found that it
has been usual to lay on the table of the houses of Parlia-
ment papers relating to the negotiations, in a state
similar to the negotiations which have been lately
carried on, and which are now being carried on
among the powers of Europe. I find that in the year
1840, when a convention had been signed amongst various
powers of Europe, with respect to the relations of Turkey
and Egypt, my hon. friend the member for Montrose
(Mr. Hume) asked my noble friend the member for Tiver-
ton, then Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, to pro-
duce the convention, and lay it on the table of this house.
That happened on the Gth of August, and the prorogation
of Parliament took place on the 11th of the same month.
My noble friend declined to lay that convention on the
table, as it was not then ratified ; but he entered into some
explanation at that time, and he stated that the whole of the
papers relating to the negotiations would be laid before the
two houses of Parliament at a later period. In the year
1844, again, some discussions took place between this coun-
try and France, with respect to an occurrence at Tahiti,
but Sir R. Peel, who was then First Minister of the Crown,
beyond informing the house at its last meeting, which was
held in September, that an amicable adjustment of those
differences had been effected, did not make any communi-
cation to the house, nor lay on the table any papers.
In fact, I think that, according to all practical sense with
regard to these matters, the period for laying papers before
Parliament is when negotiations, whether they end ami-
cably or otherwise, have been brought to some conclusion
which would enable the Government to say that they were
in a state to be communicated to the house. It has teen
alleged that on a late occasion I departed from this prac•
tics by laying on the table of the house papers relating to
transactions which took place at Florence in the case of
the Madiais. But I beg to observe that that was a nego-
tiation which, on the part of her Ma!esty's Government,
had been entirely concluded. I had thought it necessary
to make representations in strong language to the Tuscan
Government. I received a communication in answer to
those representations, and it had not been my intention to
proceed with any further representations or negotiations.
I had wished rather to appeal to the public opinion of this
country and of Europe on that subject, and I had no in-
tention of entering into any farther negotiations with re-
gard to it. Therefore the house will see that the papers in
that case were in a fit state to be laid before Parffliament.
Now, with regard to what took place in the dierences
which have arisen between Russia and Turkey
the all I pro-
pose to do at present is to give an outline to house
the transactions as they occurred, and to state what is the
present position of the negotiations. Ido not propose to
refer—it would not be fair or right in me to refer—to any
papers that are in the nature of secret papers, and which
have not been laid before Parliament. I will only refer to
those transactions which I believe must have become
known to this house and to the country, by the publica-
tion of different state papers, and by the MIN which

THE SMOKE NUISANCE.
The Marquis of LANSDO\VNE, in moving that the
house go into committee on the Smoke Nuisance Abate-
ment (Metropolis) Bill, observed that it was a measure of
considerable importance, because it affected the comfort
not only of their lordships, but of every one in the
metropolis, and every class of society. He believed
they were all aware, though they might not be
aware of the whole extent to which it had taken

•
place, that they had been for years past subject
to the gradual encroachment, not of an invisible element,
but at least of an- elev.-dent whose approaches were so
gradual that the whole extent could hardly be appre-
ciated, and at this moment, and for years past, they had
been living, not under the canopy of heaven, but under
one of their own creation. (Hear. hear.) The experi-
ments of 44-11. e last seven years had abundantly proved
that their lordships could with perfect safety, without
imposing any burdens upon individuals beyond some
amount of attention and trouble, require the extinction

and consumption of all smoke generated by manufactur.
ing establishments. It was proposed by this bill, that
after the Ist of August of next year all furnaces should
be compelled to consume their own smoke, with the
exception of glass works and potteries, throughout the
metropolitan districts, and the bill included the steam-
boats on the river. There was an impression that this
was a sort of dilettanti measure, only sought for for the
benefit of the rich, and the preservation of works of art.
He should be the last to say that works of art should
not be protected, while it was the policy of the Legisla-
ture to amass in the metropolis collections of the most
valuable description. He thought that object alone was
deserving the protecting hand of their lordships. (Hear,
hear.) But so far from its being only for the interest of
the richer classes, only affecting the feelings of amateurs
and preservation of works of art—it affected every class
of the community and the general cleanliness of the
metropolis, for there was no housekeeper who was not
able to vouch for the increased difficulty in maintaining
the commonest cleanliness in consequence of the nuisance
which this bill would abate. The smoke so affected the
clothing of the working classes that it was computed
every mechanic paid at least five times the amount of the
original cost of his shirt for the number of washings ren-
dered necessary. Therefore, in proposing this bill, he
was assuming the functions of the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, as it would make a considerable seduction of
a duty levied, upon the whole community not the less
rigorously because they were hardly aware of it (Hear,
hear.) The bill, while affording that relief, did so with
singular care—he might almost say more care than was
necessary for the interests of the parties upon whom it
would operate, Wcause, although six months was first
proposed to be allowed for every manufacturer to pro-
vide himself with this machinery, that period had been ,
extended to the Ist of August next. The provisions
of the bill were the same as had been adopted in
various local acts of Parliament. There were five or
six places, including a part of the metropolis (White-
chapel) in which provisions for this purpose were en-
forced ; and in many instances in which persons had
been compelled to adopt the new machinery they had
found themselves benefitted in point of economy by the
change. He thought it unnecessary to say more upon a
matter so obviously for the public advantage.
The bill then passed through committee.
Lord REDESDALE, in moving that the report be
received, congratulated the house and the country upon
the introduction of this bill, and expressed his obliga-
tions to the Government for having undertaken to pass
so necessary a measure. He had himself carried two
bills for the same purpose through their lordships' house,
but not receiving the support of the Government, it was
impossible to carry them through the other house of Par-
liament. If this bill did not do all he desired, it was
still a great improvement. He regretted that the ope-
ration of the bill was postponed, as it created unneces-
sary delay ; but since that was an agreement come to
for the withdrawal of certain opposition, he should not in-
te:iere with it. He regretted also that glass works and
potteries were excepted. A bill had passed that very
year kr the improvement of Newcastle-on-Tyne, where
more glass was made than in any other place in England,
and no such exemption had been required in that in-
stance. He considered that a great blot upon the mea-
sure ; but lie should not propose any alteration. He
should, however, move amendments to make the words
of the enacting clause the same as the preamble, with
respect to steam-vessels between London-bridge and
Richmond-bridge, and to modify the third clause, which
provided that no penalty should attach where only coke
or other fuel, not emitting smoke, was used. With re-
spect to that proviso it would enable parties to evade
the operation of the act and it was only necessary to

events have taken. Whet the present Government entered Constantinople with respect to the reception of that note ; had the right to put her own construction on her own
upon office my attention was immediately called to the but this I can state, that upon the 23d of last month the treaties." Shortly after, on the 15th of August,lB43, just
question of the Holy Places at Jerusalem by the Russian Turkishh Ministersl were prepared to send to Vienna, and ten years ago, my noble friend the member for Tiverton,
su seqtuilnt le to
former note
a communication based with his usual ability, made a well-known speech on the
Minister at this Court ; and I was told that the question upon in its mode of meeting thepolicy of the noble earl, in which he gave a masterly sketch
demands of Russia, and in respect to which I thinkthat, of our true policy in the East.
was one of a very important nature, and would probably (Hear.) I refer to that
give rise to some anxiety. I immediately turned my at- havine agreed to the former note, they would bind them- speech, because it enables me to contradict the assertion of
selveseto agree to the note whichhhar net the assent of the the noble lord, that papers are never given whilst negotia-
tention to that subject ; and I think on the very day on
four Powers. Sir, u • however,au is quite un- tions are pending. Why, the noble lord the member for
which I took the seals of the Foreign-office, I wrote a pri- settled—supposing tshaPtPauosite to be fin' yagreed upon as the Tiverton then moved for papers during negotiations, on
vete letter to Lord Cowley, her Majesty's Ambassa- communication which shall be made by Turkey, and which the ground that part of the papers had already been given.
dor in Paris, requesting, as my predecessor had done, will be satisfactory to Russia, there will still remain the He hoped his noble friend would rise and utter similar
his earnest attention to that subject. At a later period evacuation of the principalities. (Cries of " Hear, hear.") sentiments to-day, for the facts of the case were strictly
Sir, itwilsiiertdeeesevinttutelluatdeneorseitmtlmemziatt2nlebaedsatisfac- analogous.. (Cheers.) By her success in that transaction
I was informed by the Russian Minister that it was According
the Russia showed that she was mistress in Servia, and could
the determination of the Emperor of Russia to dispatch evacuationnr of those principalities. (Cheers.)e Ace
a special embassy to Constantinople, with a view to Put to the declarations which have been made by the General Since Vineecke thatany rising independent nationality in that quarter.
in
the time she has completely carried out her policy
an end to the differences and complaints that had commanding the Russian forces—Prince Gortschakoff— Danubian principalities. Taking advantage of the
existed upon this subject. The Emperor of Russia cone- that evacuation ought immediately to follow upon satis- national movement in 1848, she expelled from those pro-
factiobeing given to the Emperor of Russia. I will only vinces every man of liberal and independent opinions.
p 1 say ained that certain privileges which had been enjoyed byfurther that it is an object which her Majesty's Go- They were now scattered as exiles over the face of Europe,
those professing the Greek religion at Jerusalem had been vernment consider essential ; but with respect to the mode and their urn tore their native land was in consequence
withheld, and that certain concessions which had been made in which that object is to be obtained, I must ask perrcis- of eventsrecent(aTtraodin ore hopeless than
theever.
Porte,
by the Sultan had been withdrawn. It was, therefore, a sion of Parliament to say nothing upon that head, but to the convention of Pi
leave the means of attaining the end in the hands of the Russia has established her ir Liman,
legitimate object on his part to seek to obtain a settlementforced. upon
executive Government. With respect to the question ternal affairs
provedthe principalities,ptuhraptusleVsallethia. and Moldavia are now, to
of those questions ; and the Russian Minister stated that seht toaaidntheerfreprreeisnenatlleteeheupina:
up
1 1
)t
che
ianoa
iti
Is. e
wich has been raised regarding the fleets of England and tion has
as concessions which had been made at one time had been France, that, of course, cann be made any condition, all, intents
withdrawn at another, it was the object of the Russian because we ought to have it in our power at all times, nationality is pretty well crushed in
Independent
Government, in some form or another, by some act of a supposing Turkey to be in danger, to send our fleet to the in Turkey the Greersp.;:uoainnenngrad
strfti ecs
t sufficiently
the
them.
irs spirit t o f There
ithen
Greeks, uirerely under-
aarni
which,ead-
re-
solemn nature, to obtain the settlement of these differences neighbourhood of the Dardanelles, in order to be ready ligion, for there is a broad though not s'
to assist Turkey in case she should be attacked. There- stood distinction between
withir the free
which would not be liable to perpetual disturbance here-
after. Of course I could not object to the special ens- fore we cannot consent to any arrangement to which it independence has s
may be stipulated that the advance of the fleets to the neigh- with their increased
bassy from Russia to Constantinople on the subject ; but bourhood of the Dardanelles shall be considered eqsvalent states of Europe, has for some time guruerast7
house Christiana
mthear,
I stated my hope that the mission would be of a concilias tc' the actual invasion of the Turkish provinces. With re- Russian Government. There is another cause for Toerdtties
tory nature, and that nothing would happen which would spect to anything further, if these questions shall have alarm, and one perhaps little imagined in this country—
been settled, if peace is secured, Besika Bay is not a sta- the spread of the Protestant faith amongst the
disturb the pacific relations existing between Russia and tion which would be of any advantage to the Government of the East. It may be unknown to thisfs
Turkey and the other Powers of Europe. Prince Menschi. either of England or of France. I can only add that, mainly through the influence and teaching
koff, who was intrusted with that mission, arrived at Con- whilst I regret not to be able to state that the whole of can missionaries, scarcely a town of any importance exists
stantinople, and had, I think, an audience with the Sul- these transactions are terminated, yet Ido think that there in Turkey in which the nucleus of a Protestant community
is now a fair os ect that
without involving Europe in ho- had not been formed. The new converts were at first, as
tan on the 2d of March. An incident then occurred which stilities, the independence and • grity of Turkey, which was usual, subject to cruel persecution by the heads of the
created a good deal of alarm. rued Effendi, the then from the beginning of the
eintegrity
sessionn I have always stated to respective Churches which they had left—not, be it remem-
Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs, was pointedly be the main object of the policy of her Majesty's Go- bered, bYthe Turkish authorities. At length Lord Stratford
slighted by the Russian Ambassador, and he immediately vernment in reference to the affairs of the East, will be and Lord Cowley obtained firmans of protection for the new
gave in his resignation. Other circumstances tended to iiiieecured,ir
fde that in no very long period. I am sure this sect, which was recognised by the Porte as one of the religi-
excite alarm, and Col. Rose, then Charge d'Affaires on the that object caenl—hlesekenuorwedtbhat this country feels—that, if ousessect:iotfetfhepie, and received privileges accordingly.
part of her Majesty at Constantinople, at the request of the Europe in the calamities ofwnaergote 471, zeitahout involvingweilitqti7t has
principally
dtfeero the
the
Grand took root, to the-
h niansPlamongst religiousom
Grand Vizier, wrote to say that it might be desirable that the whole world will value, and upon which wres„han have Greeks, and in some instances hole illiges have embraced
the Admiral, who was then contemplating a cruise, should reason to congratulate ourselves. I am quite sure that thereformedfaith. The Greek clergy, backed by theßussian
emeynaneleehle himself
friend at the head of the Government may well mission, have done all in their power to check this move-
hasten his departure from Malta, and approach nearer to
for any attacks that may have been made meat, and when persecution was no longer available,
the waters of Greece. However, about a week afterwards, upon him in contemplating such a result, and that we have Mensehikoff appeared at Constantinople. I will not
these apprehensions were a good deal allayed—some of the cause to appreciate highly the mixture of firmness and trouble the house with all the communications which have
reports which had been prevalent were found to be erro- judgment by which he has been enabled to attain the end passed between the Russian ambassador and the Turkish
neous ; and Colonel Rose wrote a second time to say that that is before us. Sir, I will only say that this question of ministers, but the note sent by him on the 'day of his de-
the maintenance of Turkey is one that must always require parture, and which is far more important than it might at
the Grand Vizier no longer persisted in his wish, and the-attention- the vigilant attention—of any person en- first sight appear, proves beyond a doubt or cavil the whole
that therefore he would withdraw the request made to trusted with the conduct of the foreign affairs of this gist of the Emperor's policy and Menschikoff's mission.lt
Admiral Dundee. At a later period—in the beginning country ; and further, that I think it can only be secured will be observed that the distinction is dawn in s docu-
ofnielstra-
the following month, viz., April—Lord Stratford, who ImetonastaletruenuiczesunbettiangcliseetweenEnglandand France, meat between the purely spiritual rights of the orthodox
nrdiewalafaotneacrinuainir communication be- Eastern Church and the other rights, privileges, and im-
was then at Constantinople, was informed by the Turkish tweenythose two Powers.n I and
Minister that certain propositions had been made to the ral outline of the negotiations that have already taken tion itsituunniitutes of the clergy.it urll3ceyy,ththe npeewwseyrster LoefcTrdemelic
Turkish Government to which they were unwilling to ac- lace, and the present position of the question. I have had been
cede. I should say that up to this time the Government not. enttzsediaiitre any
proper occasion gradeeuallly curtailed, aned the firmans lately isseured
k
ntesnotno thisis subj eclt;;.l doh not for the protection of those who might embrace the reformed
of her Majesty at home and her Majesty's Minister at St. In inoidlfheuseeaftoerr,anon faithre have taken from them the power of persecution for
the papers being produced, any party
Petersburg had always understood that the demands to be member of this house shall think that the conduct which theggit atessatkz.a The Russian Government has
interferenceviewed with
made by Russia had reference to the Holy Places, and were has been pursued and the policy which has been adopted temporal powerrlonf a..lidenothing but the
jealousyeler whots
are with
all comprised, in one form or another, in a desire to render require censure otlkoebasuezatetne,rytharenita,wLbefercoumspteete competent tools-
jsl of Russia, hence the distinction drawn by Prince
forfen anythat
one to
?anncedselimon of both spiritual and temporal privi-
ikoffe, and the resolution not to accept anything but
certain and permanent the advantages to which Russia
conductm and policy ; but all I thought necessary thee ell'
thought herself entitled in favour of the professors of the
to crush the spirit of political pu.onliittiiceasl.
and.W hraetleigiveorttsmi
on the present occasion was to make to the house such a leges, rights
Greek religion. Lord Stratford understood from the statement as would enable it to comprehend the present the contrary, she has succeeded. Her great object has been
Turkish Minister that it had been much desired by the state of these transactions. which has manifested
Chris-
Russian ambassador that the request which was made on Mr. LAYARD : Sir—l hope that the house will grantitself of late years among the
tian subjects oflnyd ebpe e saidn d e nt:
the part of Russia should be withheld from the knowledge me that indulgence which it usually grants to members effect that end. tlimedte Porte,faand she will spare no effort to
of the representatives of the other powers of Europe. I who address it for the first time, and will permit me to say upon a project with which cectrtlaeiande mareti
toe s.any %fie:- wordst
believe that these demands were as new to the Govern- a few words on a subject which, as the house may be and elsewhere have endeavoured of' late parties
familiacituenta;
merit of France as they were to the Government of Eng- aware, has long deeply interested me. (Hear, hear.) My tindependentpiG—reeTce immediate establishment of a so-called
land, and that they were as new to the Government of noble friend the member for the city of London has com-
beli.ethat this schemmePiwreeraet Constantinople. Now, I
Austria as they were to the Government of France. After menced by stating that he is not going to defend the to it, is based upon a fallacy. Ithere no political objections
will remind the house that
a considerable time these propositions were changed in their policy of the Government, as that policy has never been in the first place, the true Greek population of Turkey in
aspect; and the house heard, and will recollect reading in attacked—and for a very good reason—the noble lord has Europe is very small indeed when compared with the other
the papers, that there was first a convention 'proposed in never given me an opportunity of making any comments Christitre s2ul4seposooofiftliite indeedPott.exeel2:elrtagry does not
one form, and afterwards a convention proposed in another whatever, either favourable or unfavourable, upon the amount • l A !
Greeks the '7
• '. TAs a
population the are confined to province of hes-
form, and that finally Prince Menschikoff presented a note policy of her Majesty's Government. (Hear, hear.) My saly. Elsewhere they are merely scattered through the coun-
to the Turkish Government, which note was to be signed noble friend will, therefore, I trust, admit a that I have in try in detached communities, living amidst the Sclavonian
the Turkish Minister of Foreign Affairs, and which
stated that that was the least concession that he could this motion shown no factious desire to impede the policy and Bulgarians, who form the real Christian population of
Turkey in Europe. The language of these races is not
make, and that, unless the note was signed by the Turkish of the Government, or to compel her Majesty's Ministers
Minister for Foreign Affairs, Prince Menschikoff and his to make disclosures which might •
prove injurious to the Greek—they differ from the Greeks in blood—they look
mission would be obliged to leave Constantinople, and thatpublicl hope upon them with great jealousy, and for years they have
service. my noble friend will believe, and
evils been struggling to throw off all connection with them by
Russia would not be responsible for the very grave
which might ensue. Language at least to this effect was that the house will believe, that I should not have been so refusing to accept Greekpriests for their clergy and bishops.
contained in the note of the Russian ambassador. However, presumptuous as to put myself forward in a matter of such The Servians, to whom I look as the nucleus of the great
the Turkish Government did not consider that the signature vast importance and of so eminently delicate a nature had southern division of the Slave race, have completely thrown
of such a note would be compatible with the independence I not been conscientiously convinced that I had an act of off all dependence upon the Greek patriarch of Consta
and the dignity of the Sultan, and they declined to affix theall and have elected a patriarch of their own. (Hear.)
duty to perform, and that I might,
signature of their Minister for Foreign Affairs to the note
throw some light upon light upon the question at issue.
proposed. At the same time the Turkish Minister, instead lndeed, in which occurred in the fifteenth
century would inevitably
of a direct and simple negative,
to a note on his part, which the first instance I was of opinion that discussion in this occur again. The Byzantine empire fell because it was
he said that he was quite ready to transmit to the Russian house, and a public statement of the true facts of the case, made up of a variety of hostile and opposite races—Bulga-
ambassador if it would be taken as satisfactory, and thus which had been greatly misunderstood and distorted, :itsi.lits, Bolienians, and Servians—in fact, the veryraces which
to close allelisputes between the two Governments. I should would have much contributed towards strengthening her to thPeeveurkaricieeydin Europe—who became an easy. prey
mention here that the question with regard to the Holy Majesty's Government in pursuing a firm and wise policy. Greek Governmentr ats C The inevitable result of placing a
Places, and all the particulars and various details which (Hear, hear.) But I have in this respect also shown, I the whole of Turkey into
onstantinople would be to throw
the hands of Russia—(hear)--
related to the Greek and Latin Churches, had been previ- trust, a due deference to the opinion of her Majesty's and to render impossible a future independence for
any
ously arranged in a manner that was satisfactory to Prince Government, and remained silent, although, by so doing, Christian race that might be destined to hold the Turkish
Menschikoff and the Russian Government. Prince Mans- I have exposed myself to considerable misapprehension provinces of Europe hereafter. (Hear.) Moreover, there
chikoff, however, instead of accepting this note, or consider- and even animadversion. Seine, and those whose opinions is nothing very encouraging in the state of the modern
ing it as a ba,sis for future negociation, immediately withdrew I respect, have been led to believe that I, and those friends kingdom of Greece; that experiment, at least, should warn
his mission from Constantinople, and retired to the Russian who share in my sentiments, have wished to urge this us for the present. (Hear.) In my opinion a Greek Go-
frontier. Sir, I regard this circumstance as one that was country on to a war. A war ! Is there any man so reek- vernment at Constantinople would at this time be more
very greatly to be lamented. It has always appeared to me less, so insensible to the inestimable blessings of peace, adverse to the spread of civilisation and of liberty than a
that on the one side and on the other there were who would in these days urge this great country to an Turkish. (Hear.) The Greek religion is essentially a per-
statements which could be admitted, while there were unnecessary war? But nevertheless, although such are scouting religion. I need scarcely remind the house of the
others which might have been the subject of compromise my sentiments, I cannot but regret the language which has persecutions of the Rbinan Catholics in Russian Poland, and
and arrangement. The Russian Minister maintained that been on more than one occasion, and in more than one place, of the Protestant missionaries and communities in Georgia
Russia had by certain treaties, especially by those of held by the noble earl at the head of her Majesty's Govern- —nor that the first article of the Greek constitution de.
Kainardji and of Adrianople, the right to expect that the meat, " that his policy is essentially based on peace." Such, dares that proselytism is forbidden. The name of Don
Christians in the Turkish territory would be protected, in my humble opinion, should not be the language of a Pacifico is certainly not forgotten by the house, nor the
and he declared at the same time that Russia did not wish great statesman. The man to whom the interests of this annual persecution of the Jews by the Greeks. lam
in any manner to injure the independence or the integrity great country are confided should have no other policy than aware that there are some who go so far as to say that it
of the. Turkish empire. The Sultan's Ministers, on their that which best becomes those interests. If unfortunately would signify little whether Constantinople were in the
part, maintained that it was their duty above all things the honour and interests of England can only be main- hands of Russia or not. As there is no British statesman
to maintain the independence of the Sultan—that nothing tanned by war, we should be ready to go to war, and I, sir, who w vald venture to coincide in finch an opinion, it is
should be acceded to which would be injurious to his dig- for one, have no doubt that, when convinced of the necessity scarcely necessary to meet it with any serious argu-
nity or would derogate from his rights,but at the same of war, every man in this country will heartily make any meets ; .but I will only ask this
question—Are we
time they declared it was the intention f the Sultan to sacrifice to bring it to an honourable issue. But if we prepared to deal with all these
great provinces which
protect his Christian subjects, and to maintain them in can maintain peace consistently with that honour and snake up what is called the Turkish empire ? (Hear
the rights anti privileges which they enjoyed by conces- those interests, then no sacrifice too great can be made hear, hear.) Remember that the moment the slen-
sinus and edicts that had been issued by himself and his to preserve it. Why have we laeard on all sides during tier tie which binds them together—Constantinople—
predecessors. Such being the statements on the two sides, the recent alarm—in the lobby of this house., in private is broken, they must become the seat of anarchy and con-
predecessors.
own it appears to me that the withdrawal of the Russian circles, amongst men of all epinions—" Had the noble lord fusion. It is very well to talk of driving the Turks into
mission from Constantinople, aided at the same time as it the memberi for Tiverton been at the Foreign-office we Asia • but how are we to induce the native Mussulman
9
was—aided, I mean, as a means of compulsion by the pro- shouldnot have been in these straits." (Hear, hear.) Was population to consent to such an arrangement .It should
gyration of a large Russian force both military and naval it because the country wanted war. (Hear, hear.) No ; be remembered that the Turks are merely a dominant
on the frontier of Turkey—was a most unfortunate step,
the country was convinced that the best tribe, and that the far greater part of the population of
and has been one which has given, naturally, very great it was
ofbecauserviu
g ace was to assume at once a firm Asia are not Turks—it is made up of Syrians, Arabs,
alarm to Europe, while it has imposed great sacrifices tneans
dignifiedsettitudell;e to let the world know that, how- Jews, Armenians, Kurds, and a variety of other races,
and a
both upon Turkey and the Turkish provinces adjoining England might be for peace, she was prepared only held. together by the moral and political prestige of
Russia. Her Majesty's Government, when these ap- ever anxious
if infertUnately she should be called upon to go the Turkish Government ; destroy that prestige by sub-
pearances became so serious, thought it necessary to give to
war.s
support of her own rights, and of those rights jetting the Sultan to the humiliation of being expelled.
directions that her Majesty's fleet should leave Malta and ehreTersillwas bound by treaty to defend, or upon which from Europe, and you let loose those wild tribes, and the
approach the neighbourhood of the Dardanelles. The depended the balance of power in Europe. No other atti- countries they inhabit would be the seats of anarchy and
French fleet had a short time before been sent to the Bay tdewas worthy of this country ; any other attitude was confusion. Are we prepared to take possession of Asia
of Salamis ; but there was a perfect concert between the butu an encouragement to such lawless !powers as Russia, Minor, Mesopotamia, Syria, and Egypt, or can we allow
two Governments upon this subject. It was alleged by the and must ultimately and inevitably lead to war. The them to pass into the hands of Russia and France? (Hear.)
French Government, and truly alleged, that while their words spoken by the great Lord Chatham on an occasion For we must do one or the other, as there is no dominant
fleet remained in the harbour of Toulon it was not so very nearly similar to the present were so apposite, almost family in any of those countries except Egypt. We should
much within reach of any demand from Constantinople as indeed prophetical, that I trust the house will permit me not forget that although Egypt is a high road to India,
the British fleet would be at Malta, andthat it was desir- to quote them :—" My lords, I cannot agree with the Syria and the valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates form the
able that the two fleets should be ready to act together if noble duke, that nothing less than an immediate attack high road, and any power holding those countries would
such a step should be necessary, That allegation had been upon the honour or interest of this nation can authorise us command India. Moreover, the power which holds Con-
perfectly borne out by the facts, because when the orders to interpose in defence of weaker states, and in stopping stantinople will ever be
looked upon in the East as the
were ultimately given to the two fleets to proceed to Besika the enterprise of an ambitious neighbour. Whenever that dominant power of the world,
and
with R • tuna at Con-
Bay it was found to be not only as easy but more easy to narrow, selfish policy has prevailed in our councils, we stantinople our tenure I • of India would always be a purely
give directions at Malta to have the English fleet sent to have constantly experienced the fatal effects of it. By suf- military te All
nure.those. reforms which some of my hon.
Besika Bay than it was to order the French fleet from the faring our natural enemies to oppress the powers less able friends
Bay of Salamis to Besika Bay. Therefore the two Govern- than we are to make a resistance, we have permitted them been
who have been sitting on the benches near me have
meats upon this occasion and throughout the negotiations to increase their strength, we have lost the most favourable '
advocating for the populations of those vast posses-
have acted entirely in concert, and have endeavoured in a opportunities of opposing them with success, and found sions—reforms iu the value and importance of which I most
similar spirit, by daily and constant communication, to ourselves at last obliged to run hazard • making heartily agree—will be utterly impossible. But I will not
obtain a solution of this question which would be corn- everyin dwell upon this subject. Russia is well aware that no Eu-
that cause our own, in which we were not •
patible with the independence and the dignity of thewise enough to ropean statesman would permit her to take possession of
take part while the expense and d • I will not say that
Porte, and which at the same time might not lead to any anger might have been Constantinople at this time. (Hear.)
supported by others. I fear my lords, it is too much the she does not look forward to the possession of that great
disturbance of the peace of Europe. Sir, the next step temper of this country to be'. lel t the her object now is to render all
that was taken by the Russian Government was a direc- ln sen s 1
accumulated
tenor
approach of prize sooner or later;but
in
Turkey
danger until it comes withimpossible, to weaken
independent nationalities
tion to the army of Russia to occupy the principalities, With regard to thequestion at •
. issue, real point of (i - tho Turkish power gradually _ .
but surely, and to show all
with a declaration at the same time that it was not to be f that any such oppo-
erence between her Ilaest's Government and myself is those who would oppose her designs .
considered as an hostile invasion of the principalities, or
whether principlehas been involved, ' is notonly useless, but will entail upon them her
a great
as an act of war, but that-it was intended to occupy the the any other Government but
conduct of Russia has beenpart and parcel of a great vengeance ;in fact, to render. .
Turkey. (Hear, hear.)
principalities as an imperial guarantee for peace, and as a scheme orwhether it has been a casual and tem ors her own ultimately impossible in
means of pressure upon the Turkish Government, in order me,
whichcould be patched inaPteri7l. In this design she has entirely succeeded on this occasion,
occurrence,
is account that I contend that a great pin-
to obtain those moral securities for peace which the Russian onth
injury or gain to any party conceped.
Isl
been involved,
in n
d cai leiis involved in the recent question, and that we ought
Government had constantly sought by negotiation. It was
considered by the English and French Governments, as well manydhulluabtltaosplifion aegriesaptalstrincipl h
of a- groat scheme. (Hear, toP have dealt with it accordingly. (Hear.) We have
as by the Turkish Government, that in default of any com- hearw). Withouagreonubling the house at this late period committed, in my humble opinion, two grave diplomatic
umnication either with Great Britain or France, it was de- with a recital of all the circumstances connected with errors. (Hear, hear.) In the first place, when Colonel
sirable, seeing what great interests were at stake, to forego
Prince Mensehikofi's mission—a recital such as the noble Rose learned that Prince Menschikoff was prepared with a
the clear and undoubted right of Turkey to consider this lord has made, and which I should almost blush to make, secret treaty,
that a fact
had informed the Porte
tiations, by which the ends sought for might be attained. injustice, • k I shall tion to force it
and insolence almost unequalled—l thin
No actual hostilities, therefore, further than the occupation be able to show upon what grounds that opinion is founded. Emperor's high displeasure, to communicate it to the other
of those provinces by the Russian forces, have hitherto The whole question resolves itself simply into a question powers, and when we. learnt, not from mere report, but
taken place. Sir, it was the opinion of her Majesty's Govern- . of independent nationalities.
(Hear, hear.) I have heard frompositive and
by the Porte to France, and
merit that, whilst they placed the fleet of Great Britain in much of the concessions made_
M. Lavalette. They might have Government was engaged in preparing vast armaments on
conjunction with the fleet of France at the disposal of the of the intrigues of tie the frontiers of Turkey and at Odessa, we ought not to
ood excuse for the conduct of Russia • but
ambassadors of the two Powers in Constantinople, to be formed a very g
that they had had very little really' have been satisfied with such assurances as the noble lord
called up to Constantinople in case of emergency, it was atf I will venturehe sayiteatter. I know from undoubted has stated were given to us in London and St. Peters-
the same time desirable to gather up the broken threads of to to do witle havet nondoubt that her Majesty's Government s
authority, burgh—(hear, hear)—but we should at once have insisted
the negotiations, and to attempt to arrive at some arrange- and I
fth fact,
that M. Titoff, the Russian Minister, on an immediate disarmament, or such satisfactory proofs
The different also aware o e , of the pacific intentions of Russia as would have removed
merit by which the question might be settled. but had had in his possession for days, if not for weeks, the
Powers considered of various means for its settlement ;
rft of the finnan afterwards granted to the French Go all doubts whatever on the subject. (Hear, hear.) Our
more especially the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Francei
dvearnment, and upon which the demands for redress of the- neglecting. to do so was a grave error. (Hear, hear.) That
—a person whose talents, moderation, and
whichjudgmentt
Russian Government were founded, and that no ob. • error having been committed we had no remedy ; but we
impossible not to estimate highly--drew up a note,
of the demands whatever was made to that document. Moreover, we have
objection had another opportunity, and committed a second error.
we considered omitted the objectionable part
the
f Turkish note seen that the French Government at once disavowed M The very moment we were informedbyßusasvitte thatsai stlerehienr:
of Prince lktenschikoff, and those parts
'ht think inadmissible, de Lavalette, and renounced any extraordinary privileees in-
tended to cross the Pruth we ought to
territory,
which the Russian Government mig
two parties inconsistent with the pretensions of Russia which b 'As soon as you enter the Turkish we shallcon-
' and endeavoured to frame a note to which thevernment had, man might have enforced upon her wiser that fir- eider it a casus belli, and bring up our fleet to Constanti-
might agree. At this time the Austfian
to the house, de- more becoming the true dienity of 'a
y deeming it nople." (Cheers. Ido not mean to say that we shouldeffecto
as I have stated on a former occas IS
lotsme, 'should say, it France to make concession than to endagreat nation like have gone to war) but this would have been the
tlie Porto
dined the proposal—Previously to this.
la sy's Government to Europe by insisting upon empty rer • nger the peace of our declaration—all the treaties of Russia with
t and in-
had declined the proposal of her
importsotnt circumstances. little in accordance with the spirit of g
ious privileges, but upon which she founded her pretensions to protect
1 vsould
enter into any conference on thesee t lied occupied the grin- it might not be difficult to prove, she hade ae but to which, terfere with the Christian subjects of the S:s)regated_____
But when the Russian Government
her I.:iew of the subject, and extent actual treaty right. ',
11 toga considerable have been, ipso facto, by the law of netions I
insisted that Turkey
cipalities, Austria changed
conformity with the spirit of the to the conduct of Russia. Two ear.) But let us look (hear)—and we should then have
_ussis,
to which
she declared that, in necessary for the repro- Menschikoff will give the key to his or three acts of Prince should enter into no new treaties with R
and of which they
treaty of 1841, it was absolutelyers to meet in conference, and k they are those acts which
s rivyd we held such lan-
,as usual, have been the least did not approve. (Hear, hear.) Ha . would not have,
sentatives of the various pow .
amicable solution of differ- noticed. On his •
to endeavour to obtain sonie.
aril the peace of Europe. arrival at Constantinople, and imme- guage with firmness, I think that .Russia
nid, in the ve be-
imp diatelafter h.
ewes which might otherwise .
f Austria took the pro I y is public ently, celebrated by every de- dared to cross the Pruth, and vs? s . .
Affairs o s monstration calculated question to an issue. (Hear,
The Minister of Foreign
vernment as the groundwork ' to insult the Porte, and to en- ginning, have brought this que.
b R miens will now
the French Geyer]) courage rebellion amongst its loubt that t e u
Christian subjects, Prince hear.) I have little t
.t.
It would not be worth the
position of .
which he made to the conference. I Menschikoff demanded the dismissal of the first Mi- evacuate the principals
in
of the proposition
on a former occasion, that it was an nisterwar with the whole of Europe
have already stated,
but it came originally from France. of the Prince of Servia— a demand which while of Russia to eegago
which toall
evinces were, intents
Austrian proposition,
submitted for consideration about(Hear, hear.) She has acmes-
That proposition was
doubt information was immediately and dignified
remonstrance from the Servian Senate—a and purposes, her ()fn.
to their occupation without a case of war,
the 24th July, and no i document so honourable to those who framed it that I re- tomed Europe_
of the intentions of the Austrian ' time that she may do with teeing as she
conveyed to St. Petersburg , gret will not ermit me to read it to the house. and she has shown
inhabitants e
Government. Her Majesty sGovernment requested to seed that any ore of their who may
(Hear, hear.) This 1)
first step would have given the key- pleases, au
the note as it was proposed, with such modifications as note of Prince si h•kefrto one acquainted dare to oppoee her will, will be subjected to her heavy dis-
ensc i s mission.
the Austrian Government might think it necessary to in- ' with th • any
inthe East. M. Leasure- We scarcely know the impoitance of even her
usual course of Russian policy
troduce. That, of course, led to explanations and further G ye power over the principalities. I willputaside
the
I minister. He present
communications ; and it was not till the 31st—that is, a .aras men was the popular and natieona
of 1813 had brought consideration of eur trade—no insignificant consideration,
wasf. one of those men which the events
week after the first conference—that the final conference to speakwith so-me
,lancehovrever—bt I will observe that Russia now commands
confidence,
of which I may presume . _
was hold, in which the form of the note was completely the nube can bring her intrieues to bear upon the
arranged and settled to the satisfaction of the re re as I was not altogether unconnected with thens.
confidence, . • afe. whole Sclavonian population of Tur?cey. (Hear, hear.) It
p senta- might remember that at that period Prince 1
The house
lives of the four powers, and to the satisfaction of the Go- popular move- should be borne in mind that the principalities united to
chael, the son of Milosh, was expelled by
vernment of Turkey. The house has already heard,a Kara-George, Bessarabia—a province inhabited by a similar race—on.
and
that intelligence has been confirmed by subsequent infer- meat from Servia, and tahe present prince,
national movement, one side, and Hungary on the other, would cut in two the
mation, that the Emperor of Russia has given his adhesion elected in. hits stead. T.hifiuweas a purelye na
p aally that of Russia, great Slave race. It would seem that Providence had thus
to the note of the four powers; therefore, so far as that fnadehagaeinZaufgareigi i
Michaeln had become a. mere tool. The placed this alien tribe in the midst of the Sclavonian
original cause of dissension is concerned, and so far as the liswsitsons Government claimed a right of interference, races that Russia might not, by uniting them under one
Emperorte of Russia has a demand to make, in that respect which in my humble opinion was completely unauthorised sway, acquire a power fatal to civilisation and freedom.
h Emperor of Russia no longer insists upon the exact by treaties, but in which unfortunately she was supported We have lost a golden opportunity of making these pre-
form of Prince Menschi koff's note which,' according to by. this country. (Hear, hear.) She compelled the Porte, vinces the barriers to Russian ambition. (Hear, hear.)
some of the state papers that have been published, would ' under threats of invasion, to cancel the national act, and To Wallachia and Moldavia, independent and united with
appear to have been the case, but considers that his objects to expel those who had been enged in it from Servia. Bessarabia—a province which, by one of those fatal errors
will be attained and that his honour will be saved, if the The noble earl now at the head other Majesty's Govern- we have so repeatedly committed, we have allowed to fall
note as thus prepared be agreed to by the Turkish Go- ment, but then Foreign Secretary, justified his policy by a into the hands of Russia—we must ultimately look, I be-
vernment. I have stated already that it was upon the 1 declarationwhich has always aPP
1
2d of August that this note was sent to Constantinople. iof all public law, and as calculated to render the will of the Rnssia. (Hear, hear.) We have, we are told, to congratu.
There has not been hitherto vary communication from H, t the law of Europe. He declared "that Russia late ourselves upon having achieved a victory—a peaceful,
y a rouges
I