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POLICE INTELLIGENCE.

Q f TEEN SQUARE.
John ViVittn, a respectably-attired y oung.tilan , yester-
day placed at the bar, chargrd with hreeling Into the dwelling-
house of John Thompson, F,sq., Albion-terrace, King's-road,
Chelsea, and stealing therefrom a quantity of plate, Censiming
of spoors, forks, wine-strainers, &e. Prison*:r declined E-ay-
tog and thing in his defence, and was fully coramittcd f,:r trial,

IMPERIAL PAItLIAMEXTL

110 USE OF COMMONS. AocvsT 13.

For the motion ..
Against it
Majority —lB

THE SUN, LONT)ON, rakSDAY, AUGUST 14, is as

The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour;
Lord G. SO liE R SLIT lmwe'l)t tl-.1 tof the Corn
ki• •
oe. the I.2•liicester Hundred Court Bill.
Mr. P. SC R 0 PE presented several Aietitions a`gainst the 4111.
and uvrie-ct that it b;; Tarter l'ionsio.erta that clay tnree moruns.
At t,l'e“‘.' i:e-opie of Stroud were obliged to resort to Ci-
relle..ster, a distance of fourteen miles, in order to recover a
debt, and nothing could be more proper than that there should
be a Court established in Stroud, which cetitained a manulac-
twine. poi.ailation of 40,000 or 50,000. The people of Stroud
wished to have a Court, the appointments of which should ema-
nate f;ont the Crown or themselves. He had no other course left
to him, representing as he did the opinions of a great body of
the inhabitants of Stroud, than to ask the House to postpone
the further consideration of the Bill to another Session.
Lord G SOMERSET said he feared if hi had the op-
position of the Noble Lord (J. Russell), he should have
little ehance of gibing the seppart of Honourable Gen-
tlemen cpposite. The Bill ha i but one object—that a
Court which was now exercising a jurisdiction over an
extent of 30 miles, and holding its sittings at one particular
place, migh; hold its sittings at .such other places as were
most convenient. Every alteration which was made in re-
gard to the practice of the Court, was for the advantage of
suitors, as providing that defendants should have costs in cases
of frivolous or vexatious actions. The Bill bad received the
approbation of the Lord Chancellor, and the only ground of
objection apparently was, that the people of Stroud did not
like it. But the Bill had been brought in on account of nume-
rous applications to the Lord of the Hundred in former sessions.
The only case brought before the Committee, as a proof of
the improper conduct of this Court, was, where a poor man
obtained redress against a rich man. If that was the only
case which could he brought forward, the conduct of the
Court did not much deserve the reprobation of the House.
The object of the present Bill was not to confirm the consti-
tution of th Court, but simply to enable it to be held in every
part of the district. Under these circumstances he should
press the further consideration of the Report.
Lord .1. RUSSELL said his objection to the Bill was
not so much on account of misconduct on the part of the
Court, as if any reform took place in Courts of this descrip.
tion it ought to be on different principles from what was con-
templated by this Bill. The general subject had been brought
by him under the consideration of Parliament, and he had
informed various parties who had applied to him, that these
small Courts were so objectionable, that it was not ad-
visable to renew them. With regard to this Court, the
proposal was, that it should have certain powers, and go
to places to which it had not hitherto gone. The objec-
tion to that was, that Stroud having become a large manufac-
turing district, if there was to be a Court for small debts in
the borough, it ought either to be connected with the whole
county, or a District Court for this populous district. This
was a Court which was manifestly not suitable to the popula-
tion of a place like the borough of Stroud.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw and the House
divided, when the numbers were :

The Bill was consequently lost.
Sir. C. STYLE presented a petition from Scarborough
praying that the Irish Tithe Bill might not pass into a law.

LORD BYRON.
Mr. LEADER presented a petition from Col. Leicester
Stanhope, complaining that a statue of Lord Byron, which had
been subscribed for by several persons of distinction, had not
been erected in Westminster Abbey, in consequence of the
refusal of the Dean to allow it to be placed there. The peti-
tioner prayed the House to adopt some steps on the subject.
Among those who had subscribed to the statue were Sir
Francis Burdett, Lord Denman, the Marquis of Sligo,
the Marquis of Lansdowne, and Lord Ashburton. The
prayer of the petition was that the House would take
such steps as would insure the reception of the statue into a
public edifice as Westminster Abbey undoubtedly was.
Mr. WARBURTON had two petitions sent him for pre-
sentation, but he wLs afraid that they were irregular. They
sere complaining of the decision come to by the late Maidstone
Election Committee, and praying for a Select Committee to
inquire into the circumstances, and if possible to reverse them.
The SPEAKER—It is out of the power of the House to
receive them.

PtiV frorn Lord Durham._ cicl4sive of
the serni-official Or officious document wilier) apricattl ir. the
illornino Omni, le, signed "C. Ball: r." It commenced by
that their first greatd7t. ntigta at first sight appear an
act u great despotism. He (e. Leacici) thotghi it did
al:pry so to every one, and be was not ce:tain that those tvn
had iOned that srdintince would not require a i Act of indem-
Lity tor having none ark li._,gged lo ask the Noble
Lord if he intended to move for any ameiiariie ti 4 O'te! Bill,
or if he wished to adopt it es it stood?
Lord J. RUSSELL said that he could not as yet answer

that question.— The Bill had only just been sent down from
the Lords, and he therefore could not be expected to say as
yet whether he should feel it necessary to adopt the Bill as it
stood, or whether he should feel c,illed upon to move
any amendment. With regard to Lord Durham, he was
enabled to say that a despatch had been received relating to
that ordinance, and had been laid upon the table of the House
of Lords. _ .

Sir CHARLES GREY said that he had not as yet seen
the document al:uded to. He felt so deeply inter: sted in the
affairs of Canada, that be would offer a few observations to
the House upon the subject of the proceedings which had
lately taken place in that country. It appeared to hilt that
the ordinance ices decidedly illegal.
Lord J. RUSSELL suggested that it would be better
to postpone those remarks until to-morrow evening, when the
sub;,eet would be fully discus=ed.
Sir C. GRE Y agreed in the sulgestion of the Noble Lord,
and he should, tlivrefore, postpone his observations till the Bill
was about to he fully discussed.
Lord STANLEY concurred in the view of the Noble Lord
with respect to the discussion of the Bill ; indeed it would be
not only inadvisable that they should enter into the discussion
then, but it was physically impossible to proceed with it
sooner than the time which had been appointed. In scarcely
any other instance could the Government be justified in
bringing a Bill through the House with such haste. From
the importance of the subject he felt the necessity of discuss-
ing it before as full a House as could be obtained with the
small number- of Members at pres,nt in town. He should
not, until the Bill was before them for the purpose of discus-
sion, give any opinion as to the legality or illegality of that
ordinance, or the propriety of the Act of indemnity, or the
powers of the Colonial Legislature to alter or amend Acts of
this Parliament. He should not offer any opinion until this
Bill came before them to be discussed.

'1 he Bill was read a first time; it was then read a second
time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow (this day), in
order to afford an opportunity for discussion.
Lord STANLEY wished to be informed bow many Mem-
bers of the Legislative Council were present when that ordi-
nance Is as agreed to; also if any were opposed to it; and, in
that case, how many?
Sir G. GREY said that this would be ascertained at the
end of the Session, when they should receive the minutes of the
Council, which had not as yet arrived.
Sir W. FOLLETT wished to know if there had been five
Members of the Legislative Council present when the ordi-
nance was agreed to.
Sir G. GREY was not aware what number were present,
but as the law required that five should be present, the pre-
surption was that there was at least that number.
Sir E. SU GD EN suggested that as much of the des-
patidi or despatches of Lord Durham as related to the ordi-
nance should be laid before the House.
We understood Lord J. RUSSELL to a agree to this
suggestion.
The House then adjourned at Half-past Six.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Auousr 13.
The LORD CUANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack
shortly after Five o'Clock.
The Port of London Coals Regulation Bill, the Four and a
Half per Cent. Duties Repeal Bill, the Exchequer Bills (Pub-
lic Works) Bill, the Gaols (Ireland) Bill, and the Registra-
tioq of Voters Bill, were severally read a third time and passed.
Lord BROUGHAM moved the third reading of the Per-
sonal Diligence ( Scotland) Bill. He did so upon the under-
standing that his Hon. and Learned Friend the Lord Advocate
would make the law in Scotland of arrest for debt similar
to that in England. The Noble and Learned Lord
presented petitions against the Beer Bill. The Noble Lord
stated that it was not his intention to press the Beer Bill he
had introduced to a second reading this Session, as there
was no chance of its passing this Session.—(Cheers.)
He still remained of the same opinion as when he introduced
the measure, and he gave this notice of his intention to
renew the Bill next Session, in:order that persons might be pre-
vented from embarking more capital in such undertakings.
CANADA GOVERNMENT BILL.

Lord BRO UG HAM said that it now became his duty,
from what took place on Friday, to move the third reading of
the Canaria Indemnity Bill. He had some little doubt as to
extending it to civil actions, but, nevertheless, he would movo
its third reading.
The Duke of WELLINGTON supported the third read-
ing of the Bill.
Lord DENM AN opposed the Bill, considering that it would
be against common justice if the Bill was allowed to pass.
At the game time he must confess that the powers that had
been exercised by Lord Durham in issuing the ordinances he
had done, far exceeded the powers given. He entirely ac-
quitted Lord Durham of any improper intention ; he thought
he was doing that which would be for the best, but he had
exceeded all and justice. With respect to sending- these
persons to Bermuda, he would not say that the Noble Earl
was justified or not in doing so until be had read all the
Acts upon the subject. He thought a Bill of Indem-
nity a most unconstitutional proceeding. The Govern-
ment had no right to say to a suffering and ruined
man, " You have no right to take proceedings against o'er
officer ; be was influenced by the most praiseworthy mo-
tives." That was a violation of all principles of sound
legislation, which ought not to be resorted to, without
the greatest possible and clearest necessity. If the
Government or Parliament thought their officer justified
by his intentions or results, let them indemnify him out
of the public purse, but let them not prevent the in-
jured party from seeking redress.—( Hear, hear, hear.)
For these reasons he had the greatest possible objection
to the present proceeding. In 1818, when a Bill of
Indemnity was brought into Parliament for a violation of
the Habeas Corpus Act, it had been strenuously re-
sisted by Mr. Lumbton, and he had no doubt if the Earl of
Durham were present he would be able to justify himself to
their Lordships. By the Act of Parliament now befop them,
they were proceeding to declare that the Acts of Lord
Durham were not justified by law ; but it appeared to him
that persons whose acts were not justified by law ought to
stand by the consequences of these Acts, because nothing could
be more improper or unwise than to interfere with the ordinary
course of the law. The Crown might not in case of injury institute
proceedings, or it might stop them if already instituted by a
noli prosequi ; but with regard to private individuals the case
was different. If such a course were permitted in one case
it might be done in another whenever the conduct of
a Magistrate was called in question ; in such cases, although
the individual might have been ruined by imprisonment or fine,
a Bill of Indemnity might be called for on the ground that
the Magistrate had acted for the good of the public service.
On these grounds he thought the proposition highly objec-
tionable and unconstitutional.

Lord BROUGHAM felt the force of what had fallen from
his Noble and Learned Friend, coming, as it did, from the
first authority in the country. At the same time his Noble and
Learned Friend would forgive him (Lord Brougham) if he
submitted one or two observations, which would blunt the edge
of his remark on the course of proceeding. It would have been
to him (Lord B.) a matter of great astonishment if his Noble.
and Learned Friend had not expressed his opinion on the ma-
terial part of the busiress—the outrage on all law, justice,
humanity, and common sense, of condemning persons unheard
and unwarned even to suffer death if they should set foot
in their native country—including the innocent with the
guilty. If his Noble and Learned Friend had agreed
in chat he should have been astonished, and he should have
been humbled if a doubt had been expressed on the subject.
The only question was as to the party to which this Bill
applied, for it had nothing to do with that outrage
and injustice, which would have been equally an outrage, if
they bad had the power of passing Bills of attainder. Sup-
pose the Canada Bill gave the Governor the power to pass
Bilis of attainder against whoever he pleased, it would have
been monstrous enough, for a Bill of attainder meant a Bill
of attainder after the parties had been heard. What this Bill
touched was the conduct of those who had issued the order, and
above all, as the Noble Duke opposite stated the other night,
those alto had acted under that 'order. His Noble and
Learned Friend's first objection was, that he could not tell
but that the Governor might have the power of sending people
to I3ermuda. The Governor had only the power of sending
convicts there. Ile had not t':e power of vending those nine
men, who had not been tried, and were therefore not convicts.
Ile was staggered by wl.at bad fallen from his Noble and
Learned Friend respecting the indemnity, and by so doing
declaring the acts and onlinances illegal in the absence
of the parties ; but he did not care . about that declara-
tion so long as at the same time they granted
and gave a full indemnity from all penalties, both civil and
criminal. His Noble and Learned Friend had said
that so far as it was criminal there was no neces-
sity, because the Crown need not prosecute, or cou!d
Lt any time enter a nol. pros. But that would not
save the Governor and Council from an impeachment.
Ile agreed with his Noble and Learned Friend with regard
to the taking away of the right of civil action, but it was ni,t
the fist instance of the kind, unfortunately, he acknowledged,
for the precedenthad been set before.
After a few obsevations from the Duke of Wellington,
Lord Denman, and Lord Brougham, the Bill was read a
third time and passed.
On the motion of the Earl of SEIAFTESBURY, a Mes-
-s,ga was sent to the Housa of Commons, to request a Con.
f,,.„nee on the subject of their amendments to the Benefices
pluralities Bill,
The Dultc. of LE/NSTER preented petitions from Dub-
lin, against the Spirit Licenses Bill.
Tire Earl of GLENGALL presented petitions from different
part,. of Ireland against the collection of tolls at fairs and
inLrkets in Ireland.
PLURALITIES OF BENEFICES BILL,.
The following Noble Lords were appointed managers of
conference on the part. of their Lordships :—The Earl
of SlrafCcs.bury, the Earl of Wicklow, V e ount Ilawarden,ViE-
count Extra uth, the Bishop of London, Lord and
Ler.l Stratford.
On the return of the managers,
'I he Earl of SHAFTESBURY informed the House that
they ha is left tile Bill, with their Lordships' reasons, with the
n7auagers of tl,e conference on the part of the House of
Commons,

THE DUCHY OF CORNWALL—TIN DUTIES
BILL.
Viscount MELBOURNE in/moving the aecoud readiug of

thi& nui said that no doubt could be entertained that it would
be equally advantageous to tini Crown and to the crade-a,:tl
eotilt!!,r,2. of this country,
e Duke or WEA,LINGTON hod no desire to thr,,w nny
difil,.llty in the way of any artping,:rilent which might be be
riz.,9.Ail to the country all he desired was, that the [louse
of Lords slUitlld have the opportunity of doing its deity on
thin question as it would ',lpon others of this nature.. lle
liked to have the opportunity of considering the nature and
• l)&r!ttr: the bargain entered into with the Crown, and not
to concur in a bargain of which they had had no opportunity

of juLtin, •
The Earl of WICKLOW concurred g(iii6Mily in the oh-
servalion of the Noble Duke as to the impropriety or liorry-
ing Gills through Out House at so late a period of the session
but if ever there were a measure to which that observation
was inapplicable it was the present. It had been stAted that
this was an interference with the property of the Crown ;
but of c,urse the Crown consented, and a fair cquivale.it

was given.
Lord BROUGHAM was convinced by the Noble Earl
on one condition, viz , that his fact was correct ; hut then,
unfortunately, the Noble Earl was never more mistaken ;
for if ever there was a Bill which was not for the retni,sion
of taxatioe it was this. This was a Bill for taking 19,000/.
a.-year out of the consolidated fund, and supplying it from an
other :source. If he took 19,0001. out of the pecket of the
Noble Earl and supplied that sum from a other quarter,
what benefit would the Noble Earl derive? The only poi-
sibility of ben, fit to the people was from the reduction ill
the price of this commodity—tin; and ultimately by that
means the public might gain ; but who were the gainers
in the first place? No wonder that every body con-
neced with Cornwall approved of this measure ; they were
the tin owners; excellent men, with many of whom he was
acquainted—men having an acute regard to their own interests
as well as to the interests of this country, and of their own
county particularly. Well, a Bill of this importait kind was
for the first time preset-1' ed to the consideration of their Lord-
ships on the 13th of August. He differed from the Noble
Earl, who observed that merely because this related to a tax
their Lordships should not interfere. It was the duty of that
House to examine for itself, and to be for it or against it. The
more so because they had no power to alter it. There was
one point of difficulty with regard to the interests affected by
this Bill—be did not mean the interests of the Crown, but of
the unborn Duke of Cornwall, for, by the peculiar limitation
attached to the descent of that property, so long as the re was
no Duke of Cornwall, the property was vested in the Crown;
lett, as soon as a Duke of Cornwall made his appearance, the
Crown was divested, and the property vested in the Duke of
Cornwall. But, independently of that objection, he had great
doubts as to the beneficial tendency of the measure ; and it
was only necessary for him now to say that time ought to be
given to clear up these doubts.
After a few words from the Earl of WICKLOW,
The Marquis of L ANSDOWNE said that the Bill was
highly beneficial to the country at large ; fur it relieved it from
two taxes—the one local, pressing grievously on the county of
Cornwall ; the other general—both having the effect of rais-
ing the price of the article for the consumers in every part of
the kingdom. At a time when they were boasting of their
principles of free trade were they to continue a tax which Pre-
vented the importation of tin to those places where it could
be smelted at the cheapest rate? Not the exchange of com-
modities from one country to another, but from one county to
every other in the same country. He asked their Lordships
whether they would re-impose a tax of that sort which the
"House of Commons, after considerable discussion and investi-
gation had taken off, especially when they heard that persons
had been already acting on the understanding that this arrange-
ment would be made.
Lord BROUGHAM could not sec the force of the reason-
ing that because the House of Commons had well considered
the question, and knew all about it, though their Lordships
knew nothing about it, therefore they ought to concur in this
Bill. All that the Noble Marquis had said might be true, but
he only required time for investigating the subject.
Lord LYNDHURST had had no opportunity of inquiring
into the subject, and if lie voted for this Bill, he should vote
in blind confidence in the wisdom of her Majesty's Ministers,
and he did not wish to place himself in that predicament.
The Earl of DEVON was disposed to vote for the Bill,
because he knew the vexation which attended the present
duties.
The Bill was then read a second time.
A Message from the Commons brought up several Bills.

Lord BROUGHAM would only detain their Lordships a
few minutes, whilst he stated the nature of a petition which
he had to present from the Hon. Leicester Stanhope, who
was one of a Committee of Noblemen and Gentlemen formed
in 1825 for erecting a statue to the memory of that illustrious
poet, Lord Byron. Many Members of their Lordships' and
of the other House of Parliament subscribed to this monu-
ment; and to show that it was not a party matter amongst the
subscribers, he saw the Noble Earl opposite, his Noble and
Learned Friend the Lord Chief Justice of the Queen's Bench,
the Noble Marquis the President of the Council (Lans-
downe), the President of the Board of Controul ( Sir John
Cam Hobhouse), Sir F. Burdett, Sir Robert Peel, the Noble
Duke near him (Devonshire), and the Noble Baron (Holland)
the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. The work was
entrusted to Thorwaldsen ; he finished the statue, and it was
admitted to be the masterpiece of that great sculptor. It was
brought to this country fifteen years ago, and was a subject of
much interest ;it was scarcely an accidental—a chance felicity •
which rendered this work so much superior to the other pro-
ductions of the same artist ; for the genius of the artist was
fired by enthusiasm at the kindred genius of the poet ; and
"gratior.e grato corpue," the genius of the poet was clothed
in a form of exquisite beauty. So far the transaction re-
flected great honour on this country, but what followed de-
served a different description. That great work had been now
for fifteen years lying unpacked in its case at the Custom-
house ; and he would state the reason of that strange fact
Application had been made in the usual form to the Dean of
Westminster for the admission of this statue into Westminster
Abbey, where the ashes of so many illustrious persons re-
posed, and the answer was in these words :—" I had not
the opportunity of consulting with the Chapter until
this morning. When you formerly applied for permission
to inter the remains of Lord Byron within the Abbey,
I stated the grounds on which we as Churchmen were
compelled to decline acceding to that proposal. The
erection of a monument in honour of his memory is in a
certain proportion subject to the same objections. Ido
wish to have a figure of Thorwaldsen here, but I can al-
low no prejudice or feeling of that sort to interfere with that
which I consider to be a duty." That duty being to listen to
the slanders promulgated against that great man on the score
of his religious opinions. He defied any man to say what his
(Lord Byron's) religious opinions were.—( A laugh.) Not
even his most intimate friends knew them. He appealed to
those Christians by whom ho (Lord Brougham) was sur-
rounded—whether they thought it fair, just, or charitable, to
condemn every man with not being as Christian as themselves,
if he concealed within his own bosom his own faith—which,
he begged to remind those who scoffed at Lord Byron's con-
cealment of his religious opinions—was a matter between him-
self and his Maker. Under these circumstances the petition
prayed their Lordships to take such steps as would induce the
temporary keeper of a national edifice to open its doors for the
statue of one whose genius was universally admired, and whose
religious opinions could form no ground of exclusion, since
they were not known to his most intimate friends, and were
not to be judged by his youthful and fictitious writings. That
petition had been placed in his hands to present, and he would
now only add that if there were anything irreligious in having
this statue erected in the Abbey, it must be exceedingly irre-
ligious to subscribe fur its erection ; and yet amongst the sub-
scribers be found his Noble Friend the President of the
Council, than whom no man was a firmer friend of the
Church or a more conscientious believer in its doctrines, and
many others to whom the same observation applied. There
was even a difference of opinion between the University of
Oxford and the Dean and Chapter of Westminster, fur Sir
Robert Peel was Member for that University when he sub-
scribed to this statue ; and yet the Right Rev. Dean Ireland
did not think fit to allow it to enter Westminster Abbey.
There Were many Catholics buried in the Abbey, and several
notorious unbelievers had their moeuments and epitaphs with-
in that sacred building ; but this statue had been excluded on
grounds for which there was no just foundation
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
The Marquis of SALISBURY complained of the length
to which the obserystions of the Noble and Learned Lend lied
extended, as he (Lora Brougham) hod interrupted him in
bringing forward his mot'o i by saying that be only had a
p estion to present. Ile (the Marquis of Salisbury) found in
the proceedings of the other House a motion for a return of
the number of Bills rejected by their Lordships this session ;
and as there could be no doubt that the object of the motion
was to cast a slur upon the proceedings of their Lordshipa'
House, he thought it right that some notice should be taken
of the matter, and that it was necessary to show that they had
net been negligeet with respect to the business of the prescat
session. It appeared to him as if every session there was mo e
difficulty in getting Bills from the other House at such a period
as to affird their Lordships a fair chance of considering their
provis;ons. An instance hid been first affirded that night.
They had passed the second reading of a 11,11 of which con-
fessedly only those Noble Lords who were particularly con-
nected ',Eli the county to which it applied knew anything.
He had himself raoYeil the rejection of sonic Bills, and lie
was therefore entitled to call on their Lcielships for a return
of the dot's at which these Bills were brought up to that
House. During the present session they had received from
the House of Commons 103 Bills, and out of those 58 had
been scot up the, last six weeks, 45 only having been
received during the whole of the remainder of the session.
Ile was inclined to say that the fault did not so much rest
with the other House, for when he saw the number of deys
iu which nn House was feiened, he must say that he could
not help thinking that the Govermeent had some object in de-
layieg the Bills, and that perhaps :hey were in hopes, at a
late pe.ied of tie see.jon, that the Bills might more easily be
hurried-ti-e-ough, and would net be subject to so strict and
careful an ettion as thou would be at an earlier period.
His object was to show by the returns for which he should
move, that, owing to delays and postponements in another
place, they had.duriog eight months nothing whatever to do,
but that during the last month of the session they received an
immense number of Bills, all of which it was impossible for
them to take into consideration. The Noble Marquis eons
e'uded by moving for a return of the number of Bills brought
up this session from the other House of Parliament, distin-
guishing the months in which they were brought up.
After a few words from Lord HOLLA ND, which were in-
audible in the gallery,
Lord MELBOURNE said that the motion made in ano-
ther place with respect to the Bills which had passed through
their Lordships' House this Session, was not intended as any
imputation upon them. Their Lordships had a right to reject
as many Bills as they pleased. The question was not as to
'; Cho number which had btcti rejected, but as to whether tiro,'

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were rejected justly. That was the whole question. He must;
d,nv dim there been any unnecessary delay with re
to ilp• measures brought forty rd by Goverment. 1-be.."i
the close of the Session, it was uual to have g"3
tria:s of . str:-n7th p:irty battles, for fie purpose of trakil!g
no impression out of the House. These had a double eff'et
retnrding bwiness, for ty-si,los the times consumed io ter3c
nobody likd to press forward any measure he saN "'l'`)
,
was likely to be Nlinister.
The Earl of WICK LOW said, that the motion made elf-e.
where was for the number of Bills which bad been rejected hi
their Lordships, and, this being so, he could not help co o
curring in the opinion, that the object of such a motionrias
to throw an imputation upon their Lordships.
Lord HOLLAND said such a motion was not warranted
i:rceedent, and the introduction of such topics was nut cal'
culate to increase dispatch.
After a few words from the Marquis of SALISBURIT'
which did not reach the gallery, the motion was
INIPRISONMFNT FOR DEBT Bill.
On the proposal for considering the Commons' amend
mente
on this 1341,which
Lord BROUGHANI objected to the 2atli clause, v
rendered it imperative on proprietors of newspapers to
t
all advertisements with respect to the schedules of iosolv!, t
debtors for a sum of three shillings each. Such an enqetlni
would he the ruin of newsp ipers generally, and he ha
ceived numerous letters from provincial journals, express':Z
guat alarm at such a proposition. Another objeet'"ll .
that the slightest typogi aphical error would vitiate suchX4
affreed to.
tices, and render the proprietors of the newspapers in vvu_,
such errors might occur liable for all the expenses const.2
defect
on the delay occasioned by such informality. The etioa,
would be easily remedied by introducing a Bill of one See
~,„t
and by suspending the Standing Order it could be done
night, and, by passing through both Houses of Parham"
receive the Royal assent before the close of the Session. # bio
Lord LYNDHURST concurred in the objection 01_.0
Noble and Learned Friend, but thought the objection eetuhe.
be obviated by the introduction of a proviso in one °halite
amendments then under consideration, increasing the it ei-
for advertisements proportionally in all cases where
ceeded five lines. riod
The LORD CHANCELLOR objected, at this p— tie
of the session to the suspension of the Standing Order.
did not see that much inconvenience would be felt. f,„,Z
After some conversation between Lord Broughain;
Lyndhurst, and the Lord Chancellor,
"„
It was agreed that Lord BROUGHAM should, en t:"", to
stunt, draw up a short Bill to meet the objection. of .0c"
complained. 00 46
In the meantime the Commons' amendments to the DOl.
Wity Bill were considered, on the motion of Lord
st 6e'
MAN, ati;l the other Bills on the table were advanced a
Bill
Lord BRO LTG HAM moved for leave to bring in °eo,
lacing to the insertion of insolvents' schedules in newsy*?
Leave was given, and the Bill read a first time. morrow
Lord BROUGHAM then gave notice that on to.
lu pl-
he should move the suspension of the standing Orders
.ow the Bill being read a second time.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

bao
A few conscientious individuals in HelCllanbcoopi
for smne time, regularly resisted the payment of church.ratesr 1...00 °
nies, egg-pennies, and other obnoxious and absurd
Mother Church, and have as regularly bad their goods and chatod thc
trained and canted, to liquidate these vexatious exactions; ',-r uses
minions of the Church Militant having recently resorted t° thilpeisd ill th:
coerceive means of enforcing payment, a public meeting was "; Tow'
Moot Hall, on the evening of Wednesday, the Bth inst.,--e' te ie;
Esq., Solicitor (a Churchman), in the chair, when aeln'Ple., and
dresses were delivered by the Rev. J. Ward, Mr. J. Grey, dtc'' to sr'
Church.ra
an association organized to agitate the abolition of
Easter Offerings.—Gateshead Observer. ~, Oil
BUENOS AYRES.—T he last accounts ff 0"; toy
quarter report that no change of importance had taken place in tLielic"
Lions of the French ships and the government of the Argentine ra''rve beet
These accounts are to the 20th of May, to which date eaPer",,ht. c *1..;
received. On the 12th of April the French Admiral, Le" -ti:foo"
dressed a long letter to the President at Buenos Ayres, making. the 'iv
tinct propositions ; " first, to suspend, as regarded Frenchtne-rteipersf
plication of the principles of the Argentine republic respecting ft° the peri
and to place French persons and property upon the footing °' „eon°
iniposirtieu
to.
sons and property of the most favoured nation until the into out
ts
Go/
a treaty; secondly, to recognise the right of the French Zed i'll.
claim indemnification in favour of Frenchmen who have en. e ove°li
justly in their persons and property from acts of the Argentin Adroife;
ment." Upon the agreement to these terms, the French
.11, setr,
offered to raise the blockade, and place one of his corvettes
cat:notee..
vice of the President, to convey a messenger to the French g.°. replied.;
Don Manuel de Rosas, the President, on the 26th of APc",reolen°.o
this communication in along letter, in which he stated his , all Om ,
not to accede to the proposition. He objected to negotiate aiiion, tb.re
the blockade was raised. He stated, however, in expl,.natt, set°i'
French citizens resident in the republic had been excuse,: I°oo ptisv"..
in the militia, and that Pierre Lavie had been liberated from Sli
Admiral Leblanc rejoined by saying that his object Was '0
_,ooll_,_
rantee that such violations of the rights of French citizens
„0.:
otimerf
be again committed, and that until the President should give!,,,ti.ovi 01
till a treaty was concluded to that effect, he could not tvlied, an:e
vessels from the river Plate. The President had not Yet re.f_d ieft tr',„
things remained as they were before. The French Admiral
.nnewboto P..
river to go to Rio Janeiro, but gave power to the captain %ent nose;
left the command to receive the communication of the Pres'''. „,h Jae '
Papers have also been received from Rio de Janeiro to the I "
CO
but they contain no news of importance. ,•4 will ,
SALMON F 114.111 N G S.—The heavy showc.-
stociee
fell during the last few days having swelled the Tweed t°,
,Awioderol,
extent to allow salmon and grilses to take up the water ; a "ei,,, net ',
number or these, particularly grilses, have been taken with ' '",., rive";
the fishings in this neighbourhood, but principally Sower doWn itii trfr
In consequence of this, our market has been fully supplied selling .4
kind of fish at a very moderate price, good grilses having been
low as 41d. per lb., and salmon at Id. to 11d per lb. higher. "1"-,,,elle°'
of fresh herrings in the market has also been good, and of e'
quality.—Kelso Mail. , „,A'
A letter from Vienna, of the 25th July, gl,i,v—t,or,,
account of a singular occurrence. On Sunday last, the 22d ins;nof ti'd"
of the finest days that we have had this season, a great nurnbe-railt°ll
inhabitant! of Vienna had gone in the afternoon by the north,loclt 1 t
to Deutsch-Wagram. two leagues from the city. At seven o:oseteu
the trains and the steam.carriages had arrived. As no train vrastoe ore;
till eight o'clock the steam-carriages were put into a coach h°,0021'10,4
move them from the crowd which thronged about them toe swell,
them more closely. At seven o'clock, when the carriages 'ec,rhiew '0,,,e
the rails at the beginning of the road, a storm arose, Wh lea 0
such violence that the trains were driven by it to the distance This is
fee
and a half, that is to say, almost to the gates of Vienna. _,, ad ~
event without a parallel, which, on the one hand, Prove' r7;gesr Slid,
tageous the rails are for facilitating the movements of the na „, on
lbws
on the other, the superiority of the construction of the Waggicit- of oo
north railroad, since, notwithstanding the enormous Ive!g t to le ps
carriages, the impulse given by one blast of wind was suffic!e_nio hscl:ore
whole trains traverse so great a space. In order t: rrectors
,ises
Vienna the passengers who had taken their places, th 'rho, c,OlO,
obliged to send the steam engines to Vienna to bring back •ottre.lo,l,e
to Deutsch.Wagram, which they left full of passengers from 00 iie•gi,
TENACITY OF LIFE IN THE Cit A 3- thoilOa A' oh
23d ult., while some men were raising a compost floor, in,tuiiog "of'
Captain John M`Garvev, Stranraer, for the purpose of stibnder trie. of
they, to their astonishment, discovered, about 12 inches u the ordTtoo
face, a sea crab, apparently in good health, and rather abocsewrilytoloit
size. A person who attempted to handle it, got his finger,, years, cho
for his pains. It inlet have been imprisoned from 11 to ', ,t for ss,/
is that time since the floor was laid. How it could o'6
.„.,,ster,'
length of time without food, air, or water, is altogether a ""'
Paisley Advertiser. -f
,„ -v1.41 t
--.--I.llMPtoi°'
CROSBY-HALL WINE ESTABL -
0 14 beg Vine
35, Bishopsgate-street-within.—CURRALL and S i., ‘ ,„‘
vite public notice to their stock of Old Bottled and Prang
_"10, be 7
Their Crusted Ports are of superior quality and c
flabe°ttled V/
shipped by houses of high reputation at Oporto, :,.nd her descrifo
seditious attention. Their Sherries also, with every ot. polyp
tion of White Wines, are of equal character; and T.,tioall the
Wines the same attention has been paid to quality. `-'
fcleS of ,e,
Son, being desirous to secure that patronage which main Loin, '
first quality, at fair and remunerating profits, will
Pos
speetfully submit the annexed list of cash prices:— pea 4as
Mt DOZ. . .... 600
Port, from the wood 28s to 33s Rota Tent .................. to „,
Ditto, three years in bottle... 36s Cape Wines ...............
.. 4.,,'7
.. • .. : ei•
Ditto, ottler,rich, and superior 42s Masden
Ditto, very old, in wood and I French anti R-11. ......... VVW
.):
bottle
'
Sherry, excellent dinner wine 28s Pink ditto ditto ......... • ••'' T.',
'
Superior Sherries 36s Pink creaming Champagne 110
Sherry, very fine, pale, and White' ditto ditto ...... ..•••
0'" 6
t° 09
brown 42s to 46s Claret
Ditto, very delicate, and ex- ,Ditto, in pints ............... .4 ,
...N.v.
..
.................
.... G....a....1.7110,3;
tttooo ,111104,1:f
trmaely pale-. s2s Moselle ................... ..•"„ 6°
.. 4sstv 60'
Ditto, old brown, (rare quality) 52s Sauterne ... .............. • to
Madeira
.
Madeira (by way of Calcutta), I
first quality 63s to 136 s Port
Ditto, in pints 333 Sherry
13u,.eilas (finest quality)
~••VlO
Lisbon and Mountain ......
Vidonia (old) -
Marsala
Bo:tles, 3s. per dozm ; hampers, ls.per'dozee• 4 (Ill'
„ p1•',,,,1,
IC,l,e?caioy-
aSA‘lnl:ollr:okl iVi 1 si\E:2ti:oniule:t:e‘6tri'szAolen: Silversmith S .Ginocirbli:o-eiSsl Second-hand
.saei
Goldsmith
t: it,slhci:AN\e'SVardvaniOtdoferhoßle,inGysra:
SAVORY'S, Co
NotfhEetlf,.::rno:`4/I:iciefii::,
.e,rt,r
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..,,
ri
~0
or
ti'. B. I:kolillial:pfilSeet,ven Doors from Gracechurar:lki
Plate, Plated Goods, Watches, Clocks, B,:c , may be /1
1 will be forwardel in answer to a post-paid application.
„, •
containing a detailed list of the boil
—__ _ ......_ -
B IR 7713.
At Cross Deep, Twickenham, on the 10th inst., the 101 l
Barnard, Esq., of a son. r laugtilteri):44
On the rith inst., the lady of W. Bever, Esq• 0. a Vbilet
1 On the 4th inst., at Inverness, the lady of 11. W*
_, 1,41
of a daugthehter.th On I 2 inst., in Whitehall-gardens, the night ti(fr
t 6e,
Cot
Vernon, oi a daughter.
Oct the 12th inst., Mrs. Win. M'Pherson, of *rile°
I Sideup, Kent, of a daughter. 'it
_,,,'

MARRIED. e the jog?
On the I Ith inst., at St. :liar 's 'Bryanston-squar; )1011 •
1100. the Eatl of Carnwath, to Jae, Nvidow of Alai" • fLe('
et. GuffiterfLury-park, Middlesex. ,hire, tbeAle 104'
On the 9th inst.', at Penura'rkChureh;Glamorgans,„--/ien
John Montague Cholnicley, M A , Fellow of lq,ahgnat°
o,xfor.l, to Rosa Antonia, i7oun.ge.s.t dauAter of '"-tsq.,
Ueneral Oliver 'l'. Jones, sister‘ of R.
Jon
men Castle, in filo same county.

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DIED. . .ietl,
On tl-4t (Mt of Jul,- ,t, ' ‘ yen. 110
On the ilth inst., in livrtford-street, lifayfair, gal"' •eg,
the Right Hon.- 1. F. Lewis 1 Ted 51. 7 Ws. iTisger
Alexander Ail:man '-'' ' Prospect 1.3. ni-li— die'
lc , yioutingoen:ertoo,
St. Alltfodre arid %
, LA., pro rietor of Ira
of
fo:.!_l, St. Georgt.'s, aged 83. P t 5°Tl S
coAoti., llas,t,ings, on the 9th inst., N. kolas
is
i • -Ig, r-sq., of Old 'Change, London, anu 4 the
s:,c, ", ~"o..hter
On the 10th inst., at Tottenham, Mary Jane'
11. Jansen, Esq., of Bruce-grove, aged 15.

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August 1838. . .