The Sun.
London, England, 1854-03-03 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDJAMEVENING, MAFRCH 3, 1854.

to the introduction of the bill, and leave was accordingly
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given.
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On the motion of Mr. HUME, the following returns were
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ordered :—Copies of the report and evidence, from a com-
mittee in 1819, appointed to inquire into the cost of mus-
kets. Of the petition of the gun-lock makers in 1852 re-
specting Minie rifles. Of the advertisement for tenders for
the materials of 20,000 muskets in September, 1853, and
of the tenders sent in, stating the names of the persons
tendering, whether aceepted or rejected. Of any contract
in October, 1853, with Brazier and Sons for 20,000 mus-
kets, stating the time for executing the contract, and
whether executed.
AUSTRALIAN EMIGRATION.
On the motion of Mr. RUSSELL, in the absence of Mr.
Butt, the following returns were ordered :—Returns of
the depots established by the Colonial Land Emigration
Commissioners for the purpose of sending emigrants to
the Australian colonies with free passages, with the date
of the establishment of each. Of the total expense of
maintaining each depot in each year since its establish-
ment, and of the number and salaries of the persons em-
ployed in each. Of the sum expended in each year in.
paying the expenses of the transmission of emigrants from
Ireland to each depot. And of the total number of
emigrants in each year who have been sent with free pas.
sages from each depot, and of the number of such emi-
grants who have been Irish.

MANUFACTURE OF SMALL ARMS.

On the motion of Colonel MAIILE, Mr. Walpole,
Colonel Hanle, Mr. Mentz, Colonel Boldero, Mr. Newde-
gate, Mr. Monsell, Lord Paget, Colonel Dunne, and Mr.
Hardinge were nominated members of the select com-
mittee on small arms.

On the name of Mr. George Dundas being proposed,
Mr. MUNTZ objected that by the proposed constitution
of the committee the interests of the London gunmakers
would not be fairly represented. He preferred, therefore,
to omit the name of Mr. George Dundas, with a view of
substituting for it that of Lord Dudley Stuart.
After a few words from Mr. HUME in support of the
motion, the house divided, when there appeared for re-
taining the name of Mr. Dundas,
Ayes 74
Noes 25
Majority in favour of the original motion —49
The name of Mr. Dundas was then added to the list, as
were also those of Mr. Geach, Viscount Jocelyn, Colonel
Lindsay, and the Judge Advocate.
THE COASTING TRADE BILL.

This bill was read a second time.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, snd
the house adjourned at half-past eleven o'clock.

PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION.

HOUSE OF COMMONS-MARCH 2.
SMALL ARMS.

Mr. Walpole, Colonel Maule, Mr. Muntz, Colonel Boldero, Mr.
Newdegate, Mr. Monsell, Lord Paget, and Colonel Dunne,
nominated members of the select committee. Motion ma to
and question put, " That Mr. George Dundas be one other
member of the said committee :"—The house divided; ayes
74, noes 25.

AYES-74.
Bailey, Fir J. Hamilton, G. A. Ponsonby, A.
Barnes, T. Ilaq key, T. Ricardo, 0.
tier hick, G. Ilerbe..t, S. Rice, E.
erkeley, Hon. C. Heyworth, L. R chardson, J.
Blackett, J. F. B. Howard, Lord Russell, F. C.
Ca r, Cot. J. H. Jolliffe, Sir W. Russell, F. W.
Brand, H. B. W. Jones, D. Sawle, C.
race, Lord E. Keogh. W. Seymour, Lord
Cairns, H. Lee, W. Stafford, Marquis
Campbell, Sir A. Lennox, Lord A. Strut, E.
Cardwell, E. Lidct 11, H. G. Thornely, T.
Cecil, Lord R. Lindsay, Col. J. Vernon, G.
i 7ockburn, Sir A. J. E. Macgregor, Jas. Vivian, H. H.
t' wan, C. Mandeville, Via. Waddington, H.
Dalrymple, Viscount Maule, Lieut.-Col. L. Watkins, Col.
Davie, sir El. B. F. Milner, W. Whatman, J.
Bullies, F. Michell, Dr. W. Whit bread, S.
Emlyn, Vis. Molesworth, Sir W. Wilkinson, W.
Fitzroy, Hon. B. Mowbray, J. Wilson, J
Forster, C. Na.),er, J. Wood, Sir C.
Fox, it. . Oakes, J. Wrightson, W.
4ladstone, W. Paget, Lord A. Young, Sir J.
iloderich, Viscount. Palmer, Rohert
41aullairn, 11. Palmerston, Viact.
Graham, Sir J. Percy, I.
Hale, it, "%inn, T.

TELLERS.
Hayter, W.
3lulgrave, Earl of

SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS-(THIS EVENING.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at 5 o'clock.

Alcock, T.
►nderson, Sir J.
Ball, E.
Barrow, W.
Craufurd, E. H. J.
Crossley-, F,
Davison, U.
Duncan, G.
Vorster, J.
ileach, C.

NOES-75.
Grogan, Edward Pellatt,A.
Henley, J. Scohell, Capt. G.
Kendall. N. Thompson, G.
Kershaw, J. Vance, J.
Kirk, W. Williams, W.
Laslett, W.
Liddell, H. T.
Mitchell, T.
Morris, D.
Murrough, J.

TELLERS.

The Earl of HARROWBY laid on the table a bill for
putting bills of sale on the same footing as warrants of
attorney. The bill was read a first time.
The Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented a petition from
Yorkshire in favour of the closing of public houses on
Sunday.

Hume, J.
duntz, G.

CONSOLIDATION OF THE CRIMINAL LAW.
Lord ST. LEONARDS asked the Lord Chancellor
what the Government proposed to do in regard to the
Criminal Law Amendment and Consolidation Bills.
The LORD CHANCELLOR was understood to re-
ply that if the noble and learned lord had been present
in the house the other evening he would have heard
what the Government thought it expedient and just to
do upon that subject.
A discussion then ensued with respect to the compo-
sition of the committee to which the Irish Land Bills
were referred, in the course of which the Lord Chancel-
lor said his other duties would prevent his attendance
on the committee, and Lord St. Leonards intimated that
he should be happy to give his advice and assistance to
the members in any points of law which might arise.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE.

COUNTY COURTS. -
Lord BROUGHAM said it appeared that the finan-
cial statement of the Government was to be made in
the other house on Monday, and he wished to know
whether the Lord Chancellor had received any report
from the County Court Commissioners as to the pro-
priety of paying the judges and officers of the county
courts out of the consolidated fund, instead of, as at pre-
sent, by fees exacted from the suitors ?
The LORD 'CHANCELLOR said he had not re-
ceived such a report, but as soon as he did he should
give it his best attention.
THE REFORM BILL.

CUSTOM HOUSE, MARCH 2.

The Earl of DERBY inquired whether it was true
that the Government intended to postpone their Reform
Bill ? If so, for how long ? and whether it was to be con-
sidered as a postponement, or an abandonment of the
measure for the present session ?
The Earl of ABERDEEN replied that the second
reading of the bill now iito,d for the 13th day of the
present-month, by which time it would have been, for
the period of a month, before the country. This would
give an ample opportunity for the country to form an
opinion upon it ; and whatever views the noble earl
might entertain with respect fo it, the Government had
no reason to be dissatisfied with the opinion which the
country had already expressed upon the measure. He
believed it had found the favour of the country, and that
the country considered it a just liberal, honest, and fair
measure. (Cheers.) The Government, however, thought
it proper before proceeding with it to make every pro-
vision for the large army which would be required for
the impending war. He had to state in answer to the
noble earl that his noble colleague while in the house,
who had charge of the bill, would to-night postpone the
second reading until the 27th of April. On that day it
was the intention of his noble friend to proceed with the
measure.

[LEFT SITTING.]

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(THIS EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The following bills were read a second time, and ordered
to be committed :—Derbyshire, Staffordshire, and Worces-
tershire Junction Railway ; Islington Cattle Market ;
Kensington Improvement ; Londonderry Port and Har-
bour ; Devonport and Keyham Tunnel (No. 2) ; Glasgow
Bridges.

was calculated to injure the cause of reform, for the
coming struggle would demand all the time and energy of
, Parliament, without its attention being directed to sub-
jects of a purely social character. (Hear, hear.) He
hoped, therefore, the Government would not even pledge
themselves to proceed with the measure this session, but
keep their hands open and free to deal with those mo-
mentous events which seemed to him in the future.
(Hear, hear.) Tho country, he was convinced, was
content to leave its honour in the safe-keeping of the
present Parliament; and since there was no immediate ne-
cessity for pressing the Reform Bill, ho was glad that it
was about to be postponed. (Hear, hear.)
Colonel SIBTHORPE hoped this was the last they
should hear of this rag of reform. (A laugh.) It was clear
the true reason for giving it was that the Government was
afraid to go to the country upon it, and he really was not
surprised that it was to be abandoned—he hoped finally and
for ever. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. PHINN added his weed of praise to the noble lord
for the course he was about to take. He had the fullest
confidence in the sincerity of the noble lord's aspirations in
favour of Parliamentary reform, but the noble lord, bold as he
was represented to be could not control circumstances, and
hence the noble lord, in the existing aspect of foreign
affairs, had no alternative but to postpone this question.
The whole energies of the house would have to be directed
towards meeting the approaching war, and until the struggle
had been brought to a successful issue, it would not be fit-
ting to go on with measures of organic reform. (Hear,
hear.) Nor was there the least necessity for a dissolution,
and he thought, therefore, the noble lord had pursued a
wise and judicious eourse. (Hear, hear.)
Sir J. PAKINGTON did not, of course, object to
the postponement of the Reform Bill, but he did
most decidedly complain of the com.uct of her
Majesty's Government in bringing it in. (Loud
cheers.) It had thrown the country into a state of great
agitation, and if there had been no intention to persevere
with the bill it should never have been introduced. (Hear.)
The course now proposed was humiliating and discreditable
to the Government, for circumstances were not different now
to what they were when the measure was brought forward,
and the policy which had been pursued was in the highest
degree impolitic. (Cheers.) The noble lord must have
known that the existing state of things was approaching
when he moved for leave to introduce the bill, for
it was the resolution of the Government which
had brought on the war, and Ministers could have no ex-
cuse for trifling with the country in the manner they had
done thus early this session. (Cheers.)
Mr. HUME did not believe that this measure had been
brought forward merely as a sham. He was satisfied Govern-
ment was sincere in proposing it, but circumstances were
against them, and they had no alternative but to postpone it.
But there were members for the present Government who
advocated reform in public, but opposed it in private ;
now such ministers, if they wished to preserve a character
for honour and integrity, should at once retire, and allow
those of their colleagues, who really were sincere,
to take the sense of the house upon the measure
when the proper time of doing so arrived. (Cheers.)
Sir G. GREY denounced the tone which had been
adopted by the honourable baronet, the member for
Droitwich, and called upon the honourable baronet to
take the opinion of the house upon the sentiments he ex-
pressed, if he was really sincere in them. (Hear, hear.)
For his part, however, he thought credit was done to the
Government for having so long and so strenuously endea-
voured to preserve peace ; but now that war appeared in-
evitable, he was satisfied that the destinies of the country
might still be left in their hands with safety. (Cheers.)
Mr. DISRAELI could not appreciate the reasons which
had been assigned for this motion, which of course he did
not intend to oppose. The house had voted the supplies
with the utmost alacrity—an alacrity, indeed, which the
Government could have had no right to expect ; and if
any miscalculation had taken place upon that head, it
must have been in favour of proceeding with, rather than
postponing, the measure of Parliamentary reform ; but the
second reason assigned for the delay was still more unsatis-
factory. It was said the Government were negotiating
with the Emperor of Russia for terms of peace. Why,
they were doing that when the bill was introduced ; aed
this second reading, therefore, could hardly be said to
hold good. (Hear.) Under all the circumstances of the
case, he thought the noble lord would have acted with
more wisdom, certainly with more discretion, if he had
stated at the opening of the session that the state of our
foreign relations would not adroit of his proposing his
reform measure so early as ho ceuld have wished- if, in
fact, he could possibly do it at all this session—
(hoar)—but the noble lord had preferred disclosing the
nature of his reform scheme, and then asking permission
to postpone its consideration. (Hear, hear.) Now it was
not fair to be constantly laying siege upon the constitution
in the manner which had characterised the noble
lord's political career, and he hoped in future
the noble lord would be a little more discreet in
his movements. At present there was a prospect of a long
and vigorous war, and this should not have been the time
for proposing an extensive measure of Parliamentary
reform.

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

ENTERED INWARDS.—The Johanna, from Emden ;
Efilart, Oporto ; Virginia, Manzanilla ; Matilda Luckie,
Demerara ; Cockerills, Salonica ; Enigheden, Kragero ;
Norden, Belize ; Angantyr, Salonica • Marie, Gravelines ;
Tole, do. ; Amaranth, Ejalbecke ; Royal Victoria, Ham-
burgh ; and the usual Continental steamers.
ENTERED OUTWARDS FOR LOADING.—The John Scott,
for Demerara; Adelia Maria, Konigsberg ; Waterwitch,
Mogadore ; Bertha, Stettin ' • Johanna, Konigsberg ; Ann
Black, Kurrachee, Cape of Good Hope, Malta, and Con-
stantinople ; Cobden, Caen ; Ann, Dunkirk; Mary,
Ascension.

CLEARED OUTWARDS WITH CARGO.— The Emelia, for
Malaga ; Richard Cobden, New York ; Norman Morison,
New Zealand ; Cobden, Caen ; Abergeldee, Hong Kong ;
Martha, Mogadore ; Yldefonsa, Bilboa ; Jettina, Konigs-
berg ; Paris and London, Rouen.