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observe a railway train to see that coke put on
rudely did emit smoke ; and he, therefore, should pro-
pose to limit the exemption to cases in which no smoke
was caused. He thought no one could object to those
amendments ; but if they endangered the passing of
the bill, he trusted the Government would at once give
them up.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE approved of the
amendments, and had no objection to their introduction,
upon the understanding that, if objected to elsewhere,
they should be given up. He reminded the noble lord
that, with respect to glass works and potteries, the bi
would apply to those parts of the works which created
the most noxious smoke.
The amendments were then agreed to, and the report
received.
The Stock in Trade Exemption Bill, the Customs Tariff
Act Bill, and the Customs Consolidation Act Bill seve-
rally passed through committee, and were reported.
On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, the
Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Bill was read the second time.
Their lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the wool-
sack at 5 o'clock

MAJOR MOORE.
Earl GRANVILLE said he was sorry again to have
to trouble their lordships on the subject of India, but
he wished to say a few words in explanation of a state-
ment affecting a gentleman, not a member of their lord-
ships' house, and who therefore was unable to offer any
personal explanation for himself. It had been stated
that Major Moore, the military secretary at Hyderabad,
had warned certain persons of the risk of lending money
to the Government of the Nizam, and a noble lord, not
now present, inquired if the Major Moore referred to
was the person who bad received a pension from the
Nizam. He had received a letter from Major Moore,
enclosing certain correspondence on the subject, of
which he would read an abstract. The first letter, dated
Bth November, 1838, was from Major Moore to the
resident at Hyderabad, General Fraser, enclosing a
medical certificate of illness, which obliged him to re-
sign. The second letter, dated 29th November, 1838,
was from the resident to the secretary of the Governor-
General, enclosing papers which he states bear ample
testimony to the distinguished merits of Major Moore,
and expressing his sincere concurrence in the favourable
sentiments respecting him expressed by the Governor-
General's commands respecting a pension of 600 rupees
a month, which was spontaneously proposed to be given
by tho Nizam's Government, who were impressed with
a sense of the advantage which the state had derived
from Major Moore's services. The third letter, dated
December 27, 1838, was from the secretary of the Go-
vernor-General, in which it is stated that his lordship re-
grets the loss to the service caused by the retirement of
so excellent an officer as Major Moore ; and bears testi-
mony to the worth, zeal, and intelligence of so distin-
guished a servant of the Government, but declines to
sanction the acceptance of this honourable and well-
earned distinction, because, as a matter of precedent,
his lordship felt that it would be extremely imprudent
for the local Government to admit the pensioning of
British officers by the Nizam's Government. Under the
circumstances of Major Moore's long service and high
character, his lordship has no objection to submit the
offer for the orders of the Court of Directors. The
Court of Directors, in a political dispatch, dated Dec.
24, 1839, state that it appears to them that the insuper-
able objection which would exist to the pensioning of an
officer in our own service by the Nizam's Government,
does not exist in the case of the local officers. These
officers have no personal claim to a pension from any
other quarter. As a body they are becoming gradually
extinct, and they should be unwilling to stand between
them and the spontaneous bounty and gratitude of the
Nizam's Government, especially where those services
have been so eminent as those which Major Moore has
rendered to that Government as well in other forms as
in the form of saving expense. They therefore sanction
the acceptance by Major Moore of the pension offered
to him by the Nizam's Government.
PETITIONS.
Lord ST. LEONARDS presented a petition from
Birmingham against the South Sea Arrangement Bill.
SECOND READINGS.
The following bills were read a second time :
Consolidated Fund Appropriation, Militia Pay,
Land Tax Redemption Act Amendment, South
Sea and other Annuities Provision for Payment, &c. ;
Apprehension of Offenders Act Amendment, Bet-
' ting Houses, Commons In closure (No. 2), Female
Convicts, Loan Societies, Holy Trinity Church (Hulme),
Validity Marriages, Friendly Societies ; Copyhold, &c.,
Commission Continuance, and Metropotan Sewers Acts

HOUSE OF COMMONS—(YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at three o'clock.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lords' amendments to the following bills were
considered and agreed to :—Warrnigton and Altrincha,m
Junction Railway (Warrington, &c.) ; Coleford, Mon-
mouth, Usk, and Pontypool Railway.
Ruslibrooke's Divorce Bill was read a third time and

passed.
• CIVIL LAW (CHANNEL ISLANDS).
Lord D. STUART asked the Secretary of State for
the Home Department whether, in conformity with the
intention announced by the Government in 1846, an in-
quiry had been instituted into the civil law of the Chan-
nel Islands ;*and, if not, whether it was the intention of
the present Government to institute any such inquiry ?
Lord PALMERSTON said an able commission had
been appointed to inquire into the criminal law of the
islands, apd they had made a report on the subject ;
but he had not yet bad time to master its details. It
was not the intention of the Government at present to
master its details. It was not the intention of the
Government at present to issue a commission respecting

the criminal law.
ISSUE OF HALF-CROWNS.
Mr. OLIVEIRA, in reference to the report of
the committee upon decimal ,eurrency, and the inconve-
nience felt by bankers and traders by the circulation of
half-crowns and florins at the same time, asked the
Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it might not be
desirable for the commercial interest and the public
generally to give orders from the Treasury to the Bank
of England to discontinue any further issue of half-
.crowns, and to allow to be exchanged at the Mint all
half-crowns that may be paid into the Bank for silver
coins of other denominations, so as gradually to with-
draw half-crowns from circulation ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said no
half-crowns had been coined by the Mint since 1850, and
no further issue would take place until the Government
had taken intc consideration the report of the committee
on decimal coinage.
REDUCTION OF DUTY ON SALT IN INDIA.
Sir J. PAKINGTON asked the President of the
Board of Control whether it was the intention of her
Majesty's Government to effect any change in the mode
of levying a duty upon salt manufactured in India, and
whether they intended to make any reduction in the
amount of duty now paid by salt in India, whether im-
ported or manufactured in that country?
Sir C. WOOD said he had little more to add to what
he had already stated on the subject. He was as anxious
as the right hon. gentleman for the reduction of the
duty on salt, but he was not prepared to direct any re-
duction, because that was a matter which must be left
to the discretion of the Government of India, having
reference to the state of the finances of the country.
(Hear, hear.) In consequence of the conclusion
of the hostilities in Burmah, the Governor-Gene-
ral would be enabled to considerably reduce
wou theld ex-
penditure of the country, and he hoped he be
in, a position to diminish the dut
bo y
und on satolt. (Hear.)
Sir J. PAKINGTON was say that the
answer, so far as it went, was satisfactory, but he gave
notice that if something was not done by the Govern-
ment on the subject, he would revive it again next
session

Continuance.
The following bills went through committee, and
were ordered to be read a third time :—Land Tax Com-
missioners' Names, Coin Defacing ; Linen, &c., Manu-
factures (Ireland) ; Militia Ballots Suspension and Mili-
tia Law Amendment.
PILOTAGE BILL.
The report of the amendments to this bill was con.
sidered and agreed to.
THIRD READINGS.
The following bills were read a third time and passed :
Merchant Shipping ;_ Drainage of Lands (Ireland)
Act Amendment ; Universities (Scotland) ; Employ-
ment of Children in Factories ; Public Works Acts
Amendments (Ireland.)
UNIVERSITIES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The Earl of ABERDEEN moved the third reading of
this bill.
The Earl of HADDINGTON said, in the only one of
the public journals which he had seen to-day, there was
a very short reference to the observations he made last
evening upon going into committee on this bill, giving a
colouring of his opinions which he felt absolutely under
the necessity of removing, as he did not wish to be mis-
understood on a question which excited a great deal of
interest in Scotland. It was stated in that journal that
he said that be thought the negative test in the present
bill was a better thing than a religious test. That was
not what he said. What he did say was, that he consi-
dered the negative test in the present bill—the declara-
tion in the present bill—without a religious test, a better
practical security for the Church of Scotland than a
general religious test would be, such as there could be
any hope of carrying without the declaration. He might
have added, and he thought he did add, that he thought
a negative test a better practical security to the Church
than the present test, which was a farce, seeing that it
was quite inoperative. Those were the opinions he ex-
pressed, and which, in the journal to which he referred,
had been misrepresented. He also stated that he consi-
dered, not only upon general grounds, but because of the
agitation which now existed in Scotland, a religious test
was due to the Church of Scotland. Such a religious
_ test he afterwards took the trouble of moving in com-
mittee, but no reference was made in that journal to that
amendment ; and it was also stated, in another part of
the same paper, that the noble duke (the Duke of Ar-
gyll) opposed the bill proposed by the noble earl (the
Earl of Aberdeen). With a view of having that amend-
ment put, he should, after the third reading, and before
the bill passed, go through the form of moving it.
The bill was then read a third time.
On the question that it pass,
The Earl of HADDINGTON moved the amendment
to which he had referred, which was negatived, and the
bill passed.

PASTORAL RUNS IN VICTORIA.
Sir J. PAKINGTON asked the Under Secretary for
the Colonies, whether it was the intention of her Majesty's
Government to propose any alteration of the order in
council under which the tenants of pastoral runs, in the
colony of Victoria, are entitled to claim leases, or to
send any new instructions to the governor on the sub-
ject of those leases ; and whetherhe would lay on the table
of the house all correspondence which has taken place
between the Colonial-office and the Governor of Victoria,
with respect to the rights and claims of the holders of
licenses for the occupation of such lands.
Mr. F. PEEL said this was one of the most import-
ant and difficult questions at present under the conside-
ration of the Government with respect to the Colonies.
He was unable to say what course they would take, but
it was their intention to dispose of it before the waste
lands were handed over to the local legislature, and all
papers would be laid on the table which were necessary
to enable Parliament to form an opinion upon the

subject

COINAGE.
In reply to Mr. THORNELBY,
Mr. WILSON exculpated. the authorities of the IVll._
tor any blame in regard to the supply of coin, and stated
that copper, silver, and gold coin to a considerable
amount had just been issued in order to meet the wants
of the country and the colonies.
HACKNEY CARRIAGES BILL.
Mr. WILSON said, it was now his duty to call the
attention *of the house to the title of a bill which went
up a few days ago to the other House of Parliament.
The bill, which was lost last night, was the Hackney
Carriage Duties Bill. He ought to state that in the last
stages of the bill in that house an amendment was intro-
duced with respect to section 13, which altered a pre-
vious provision as to the hiring of carriagets beyond a
circle of four miles. He was informed by he authori-
ties at the Home-office, who had been in communication
with the cabmen, that they had a distinct understanding
that the clause as it stood should be a concession made
to the cabmen. Under these circumstances, the autho-
rities at the Home-office, who had been in communica-
tion with the cabmen, felt that it would be a breach ofthis
faith on their pant were the house not to carry out
provision. He should, therefore, move that a committee
be appointed to search the journals of the Lords in refer-
ence to the Hackney Carriage Duties Bill, and make a
report to the house.
The motion was agreed to.
RUSSIA AND TURKEY.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, having presented certain papers
regarding the relations of foreign states with the Court of
Rome, proceeded to say :—Sir, I now rise to propose that
this house at its rising do adjourn till Friday next. I have
already stated that before the prorogation of Parliament I
would endeavour to make some explanation to the house
of the relations at present subsisting between Russia and
Turkey. I have to thank the house for its forbearance
during the present session ; and in anything that I may
have to say I shall not enter into anything which may be
considered to be a defence of her Majesty's Government,
because her Majesty's Government has not been attacked
in this house. On the contrary, I think every disposition
has been shown to leave in the hands of her Majesty's
Executive Government the conduct of the negotiations in
this important case. (Hear.) I have a few words to say,
however, as to the production of the papers which some
members of this house think ought to have been laid on
the table. Upon that subject I will say that on reverting
to what has been done on previous occasions, even in cir-
cumstances exceedingly critical, I have not found that it
has been usual to lay on the table of the houses of Parlia-
ment papers relating to the negotiations, in a state
similar to the negotiations which have been l ately
carried on, and which are now being carried on
among the powers of Europe. I find that in the year
1840, when a convention had been signed amongst various
powers of Europe, with respect to the relations of Turkey
and Egypt, my hon. friend the member for Montrose
(Mr. Hume) asked my noble friend the member for Tiver-
ton, then Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, to pro-
duce the convention, and lay it on the table of this house.
That happened on the 6th of August, and. the prorogation
of Parliament took place on the 11th of the same month.
My noble friend declined to lay that convention on the
table, as it was not then ratified ; but he entered into some
explanation at that time, and he stated that the whole of the
papers relating to the negotiations would be laid before the
two houses of Parliament at a later period. In the year
1844, again, some discussions took place between this coun-
try and. France, with respect to an occurrence at Tahiti,
but Sir R. Peel, who was then First Minister of the Crown,
beyond informing the house at its last meeting, which was
held in September, that an amicable adjustment of those
differences had been effected, did not ake any communi-
cation to the house, nor lay on the table any papers.
In fact, I think that, according to all practical sense with
regard to these matters, the period. for laying papers before
Parliament is when negotiations, whether they end ami-
cably or otherwise, have been brought to some conclusion
which would enable the Government to say that they were
in a state to be communicated to the house. It has been
alleged that on a late occasion I departed from this prac•
ti
by laying on the table of the house papers relating to
transactions which took place at Florence in the case of
the Madiais. But I beg to observe that that was a nego-
tiation which, on the part of her Majesty's Government,
had been entirely concluded. I had. thought it necessary
to make representations in strong language to the Tuscan
Government. I received a communication in answer to
those representations, and it had not been my intention to
proceed with any further representations or negotiations.
I had. wished. rather to appeal to the public opinion of this
country and of Europe on that subject, and I had no in-
tention of entering into any further negotiations with re-
gard to it. Therefore the house will see that the papers in
that case were in a fit state to be laid before Parliament.
Now, with regard to what took place in the differences
which have arisen between Russia and Turkey, all I pro-
pose to do at present is to give an outline to the house of
the transactions as they occurred, and to state what is the
present position of the negotiations. Ido not propose to
refer—it would. not be fair or right in me to refer—to any
papers that are in the nature of secret papers, and. which
have not been laid before Parliament. I will only refer to
those transactions which I believe must have become
known to this house and to the country, by the publica-
tion of different State papers, and by the course which

THE SMOKE NUISANCE.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in moving that the
house go into committee on the Smoke Nuisance Abate-
ment (Metropolis) Bill, observed that it was a measure of
considerable importance, because it affected the comfort
not only of their lordships, but of every one in the
metropolis, and every class of society. He believed
they were all aware, though they might not be
aware of the whole extent to which it had taken
place, that they had been for years past subject
to the gradual encroachment, not of an invisible element,
but at least of an element whose approaches were so
gradual that the whole extent could hardly be appre-
ciated, and at this moment, and for years past, they had
been living, not under the canopy of heaven, but under
one of their own creation. (Hear, hear.) The experi-
ments of the last seven years had abundantly proved
that their lordships could with perfect safety, without
imposing any burdens upon individuals beyond some
amount of attention and trouble, require the extinction
and consumption of all smoke generated by manufactur-
ing establishments. It was proposed by this bill, that
after the Ist of August of next year all furnaces should
be compelled to consume their own smoke, with
the
the
exception of glass works and potteries, throughout
metropolitan districts, and the bill included the steam-
boats on the river. There was an impression that this
was a sort of dilettanti measure, only sought for for the
benefit of the rich, and the preservation of works of art.
He should be the last to say that works of art should
not be protected, while it was the policy of the Legisla-
ture to amass in the metropolis collections of the most
valuable description. He thought that object alone was
deserving the protecting hand of their lordships. (Hear,
hear.) But so far from its being only for the interest of
the richer classes, only affecting the feelings of amateurs
and preservation of works of art—it affected everyof class
of the community and the generalcleanliness the
metropolis, for there was no housekeeper who was not
able to vouch for the increased difficulty in maintaining
the commonest cleanliness in consequence of the nuisance
which this bill would abate. The smoke so affected the
clothing of the working classes that it was computed
every mechanic paid at least five times the amount of the
original cost of his shirt for the number of washings ren-
dered necessary. Therefore, in proposing this bill, he
was assuming the functions of the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, as it would make a considerable !eduction of
a duty levied upon the whole community not the less
rigorously because they were hardly aware of it. (Hear,
hear.) The bill, while affording that relief, did so with
singular care—he might almost say more care than was
necessary for the interests of the parties upon whom it
would operate, because, although six months was first
proposed to be allowed for every manufacturer to pro-
vide himself with this machinery, that period had been
extended to the Ist of August next. The provisions
of the bill were the same as had been adopted in
various local acts of Parliament. There were five or
six places, including a part of the metropolis (White-
chapel) in which provisions for this purpose were en-
forced ; and in many instances in which persons had
been compelled to adopt the new machinery they had
found themselves benefitted in point of economy by the
change. He thought it unnecessary to say more upon a
matter so obviously for the public advantage.
The bill then passed through committee.
Lord REDESDALE, in moving that the report be
received, congratulated the house and the country upon
the introduction of this bill, and expressed his obliga-
tions to the Government for having undertaken to pass
so necessary a measure. He had himself carried two
bills for the same purpose through their lordships' house,
but not receiving the support of the Government, it was
impossible to carry them through the other house of Par-
liament. If this bill did not do all he desired, it was
still a great improvement. He regretted that the ope-
ration of the bill was postponed, as it created unneces-
sary delay ; but since that was an agreement come to
for the withdrawal of certain opposition, he should not in-
terfere with it. He regretted also that glass works and
potteries were excepted. A bill had passed that very
year for the improvement of Newcastle-on-Tyne, where
more glass was made than in any other place in England,
and no such exemption had been required in that in-
stance. He considered that a great blot upon the mea-
sure ; but he should not propose any alteration. He
should, however, move amendments to make the words
of the enacting clause the same as the preamble, with
respect to steam-vessels between London-bridge and
Richmond-bridge, and to modify the third clause, which
provided that no penalty should attach where only coke
or other fuel, not emitting smoke, was used. With re-
spect to
.that proviso it would enable parties to evade
the operation of the act ; and it was only necessary to

THE BRITISH ASSOCIATION.—
The British Association
for the Advancement of Science intends commeliull,ncing
on
its
sittings for the present year at Singston-upon
Wednesday, the 7th of SepteMler.
LYONS SILK-MARKET.—The accounts from the Lyons
silk-marl, et state that goods continued to be bought p
with the greatest eagerness owing to the activity of
on the
manufactures. The quantities " conditioned"
9th and 10th instant amounted to the almost uaggregnpreatece-
dented total of 161 bales each day. The
831 bales,
quantities during the month ofJuly had been 2,
weighing
weighing 494,1721b5., against 1,768 bales,
273,7401b3., in, the earn* mouth last year.

events have taken. When the present Government entered Constantinople with respect to the reception of that theo had the right to put 'her own construction on her own
upon office my attention was immediately called to the but this I can state, that upon the 23d of last month t treaties." Shortly after, on the 15th of August, 1843, just
Turkish Ministers were prepared to send to Vienna, and ten years ago my noble friend the member for Tiverton
question of the Holy Places at Jerusalem by the Russian
subsequently to St. Petersburg, communication based with his usual ability, made a well-known speech on the
Minister at this Court ; and I was told that the question upon the former note in its amode of meeting the policy of the noble earl, in which he gave a masterly sketch
y demands of Russia, and in respect to which I think that, of our true policy in the East. (Hear.) I refer to that
was one of a very important nature, and would probably
give rise to some anxiety. I immediately turned my at- having agreed to the former note, they would bind them- speech, because it enables me to contradict the assertion of
Ives to agree to the note which has met the assent of the the noble lord, that papers are never given whilst negotia-
tention to that subject ; and I think on the very day on
fouree Powers. Sir, supposing, what, however, is quite nn- tions are pending. Why, the noble lord the member for
which I took the seals of the Foreign-office, I wrote a pri- settled—supposing that note to be finallyagreed upon as the Tiverton then moved for papers during negotiations, on
vate letter to Lord Cowley, her Majesty's Ambassa- communication which shall be made by Turkey, and which the ground that part of the papers had already been given.
dor in Paris, requesting, as my predecessor had done, will be satisfactory to Russia, there will still remain the He hoped his noble friend would rise and utter similar
his earnest attention to- that subject. At a later period evacuation of the principalities. (Cries of " Hear, hear.") sentiments to-day, for the facts of the case were strictly
Sir, it is quite evident that no settlement can be satisfac- analogous. (Cheers.) By her success in that transaction
I was informed by the Russian Minister that it was
tory which does not include or immediately lead to the Russia showed that she was mistress in Servia, and could
the determination of the Emperor of Russia to dispatch evacuation of those principalities. (Cheers.) According check any rising independent nationality in that quarter,.
a special embassy to Constantinople, with a view to put to the declarations which have been made by the General Since that time she has completely carried out her policy
an end to . the differences and complaints that had commanding the Russian forces—Frinee Gortsohakoff— in the Danubian principalities. Taking advantage of the
existed upon this subject. The Emperor of Russia com- that evacuation ought immediately to follow upon sales- national movement in 1848, she expelled from those pro-
faction being given to the Emperor of Russia. I will only vices every man of liberal and independent opinions.
pained that certain privileges which had been enjoyed by say further that it is an object which her Majesty's Go- They were now scattered as exiles over the face of Europe,
vernment consider essential ;but with respect to the mode and their retsurntoafbilltosehtehde.irhpnrative land was in consequence
those professing the Greek religion at Jerusalem had been
withheld, and that certain concessions which had been made in which that object is to be obtained, I must ask ermine- of recent events rendered more hopeless than ever. By
by the Sultan had been withdrawn. It was, therefore, a sion of Parliament to say nothing
nu tathhaent,
obfuttitloo the coanTtention of Balta Liman, forced upon the Porte,
legitimate object on his part to seek to obtain a settlement
e leaveeenttihvee mans
Government.o fattaini t,
With e d yonreespeict to the question ternalml affairsase
of those questions ; and the Russian Minister stated that whichx has been raised regarding the fleets of England and tion has proved that Wallachia rtalloirlaWaseanre UCCOWll,PZO-
aclritigaihesta,to interfere in atllothe in-
Its concessions which had been made at one time had been
ionuriefez. lerGe Greeks, and those professing the Greek France, that, that, of course, cannot be made any condition, all intents and purposes, Russian provinces. Independent
withdrawn at another, it was the object of the Russian because we ought to have it in our pow_er at
fiaelelt times, all
in Turkey
is pretty well crushed in them. There remain
Government, in some form or another, by some act of a supposing Turkey to be in finer, to d
solemn nature, to obtain the settlement of these differences h should be attacked. There- kood 'distinction betwreeand treomu.ghr
epic suffit cifeutly
.underd-
elsnemehnats corrh some time greatly alarmed the
nteighlssotu,rr•huorte ointelr Dsarde itasenordoeurrto be ready lig
which would not be liable to perpetual disturbance here- fore we cannot consent to any arrangement to which it independence has sprung up amongst the (GreleniccisuirveYhyil,
after. Of course I could not object to the special em- may be stipulated that the advance of the fleets to the neigh; with theirincreased commercial intercourse with the free
bassy from Russia to Constantinople on the subject ; but bourhood of the Dardanelles shall be consideretsl e nAval
I stated my hope that the mission would bo of a concilia- to the actual invasion of the Turkish prnoeysitiiiocne
shall have alarm, and one perhaps litetcee
ciWitherne- Russian Gouvr Ims auotliier cause for this
tory nature, and that nothing would happen which would tpeect to anything furthesre,eurifetdh,evessolka
Bays.
is not a eta- the spread of the Protestant faith aagmlnoengslit' the gialittan—
disturb the pacific relations existing between Russia and tioenns which :eoulpdeb'eceorany advantage to the Government of the East. It may be unknown to this hourisestihats
Turkey and the other Powers of Europe. Prince Menschi- either of England or of France. I can only add that, mainly through the influence and teaching of the Ameri-
koff, who was intrusted with that mission, arrived at Con- whilst I regret not to be able to state that the whtoleeoref
naliTinurrelyelinarvehis,•esiciyicteelnynaelteonws nofoaf ancVmportance exists
stantinople, and had, I think, an audience with the Sul- these transactions are terminated, yet I do. tloi.i_okurtohape th stwanertecoa7tersmity
in ho- had not been formed. The new converts
cotnioenofotrhtehree;7:
tan on the 2d of March. An incident then occurred which is
fit
ire au ftter prospect that, witdhoutt in.vtolviofn E
y Turkey, which was usual, subject to cruel persecution by the heads oftlhase
created a good deal of alarm. Fund Effendi, the then from the' beginningaenodri telesean session in el
have always stated to respective Churches which they had left—not, be it remem-
Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs, was • Pointedly be the main object of the policy of her Majesty's Go- banerdetobnaurkiot &tune?
firirtieas. At Len Lord Stratford
slighted by the Russian Ambassador, and he immediately vernment in reference to the affairs of the East,
gave in his resignation. Other circumstances tended to tztocusureedwlinfdeetlhq in no very long eriod. I M.
weiltlllies sect, which waseyrecognised bymthnesPlolite as
excite alarm, and Col. Rose, then Charge d'Affaires on thel t involving spirit of religious inquiry has extended Isom the Arme-
that object can be secured negotiation,aw,knowthhat this country feels—that, if Theects of the empire, and received privileges accordingly':
part of her Majesty at Constantinople, at the request of the Europe in the calamities by
clergy,toireceelcwhole
Russianvlalaeteesdhhavteheemsraed
t be a result which Mans, amongst whom it first principally took root, to the
Grand Vizier, wrote to say that it might be desirable that the whole world will value, and upon which we shall have Greekfs,
alled-n" sometl s
the Admiral, who was then contemplating a cruise, should reason to congratulate ourselves. I am quite sure that th.esrlourm dfa
have done all in their
potvr to check this m move-
the ve.
hasten his departure from Malta, and approach nearer to mcoynsnoelie Iciimfris
eldfoart
any
laitetaadditasf
t!illiae Governmentbmayrawaedlel meat, and when persecution was no longer available, Prince
the waters of Greece. However, about a week afterwards, upon him in contemplating such a rteinsuali: ahnatte thaetewnehave Menschikoff appeared at Constantinople. I will not
these apprehensions were a good deal alla,yed—some of the cause to appreciate highly the mixture a firmness and trouble the house with all the communications which have
reports which had been prevalent were found to be erro- udment by which he has been enabled to attain the end passed between the Russian ambassador and the Turkish
but the note sent by him on the day of his de-
neous ; and Colonel Rose wrote a second time to say that tthate
h iseforeus.
of Turkey
I will only say that this question of
inairntiursteer,s;nd which is far more important than it might at
the Grand Vizier no longer persisted in his wish, and the attention maintenanceth e
iguant is a
,-Teen thattion must
falwaysa
ers requireoen. first sight appear, proves beyond a doubt or cavil the whole
that therefore he would withdraw the request made to trusted with the conduct of the foreign any
Taiiii-s of this gist of the Emperor's policy and Menschikofi's mission. It
Admiral Dundas. At a later period—in the beginning cceetrY ;and further! that I think it can only be secured Will be observed that the distinction is drawn in this cu-
t the following month, viz., April—Lord Stratford, who by &constant union subsistingbetweenEnglandand France, ment between the purely sopirirtualhr.ghts.ofl the orthodox
was then at Constantinople, was informed by the Turkish irwdeebilytt
otsheowouoglpiocwonercsertlaltic.blvceorncolif
stated
communication be- Eastern
sCh eaenr(glytheßythe rig
the new ssy'sptenmvioefgaecsi d ,mainnistirina--
Minister that certain propositions had been made to the ral outline of the negotiations that have Jrie'adyetgareen- I (noun tni t theteroduced into. Turkey, the power of the Greek clergy
Turkish Government to which they were unwilling to ac- place, and the present position of the question. I have had been gradually curtailed, and the &mans lately issued
cede. I should say that up to this time the Government not entered into any arguments on this subject—l do not for the protection of those who might embrace the reformed
of her Majesty at home and her Majesty's Minister at St. think this is the proper occasion to do so. If hereafter, on faith have taken from them the power of persecution for
the papers being produced, any party in this house, or any • Government has viewed with
Petersburg had always understood that the demands to be religion's sake. The Russian
member of this house shall think that the conduct which the test alarm and jealousy this interference with the
made by Russia had reference to the Holy Places, and were hest een pursued and the policy which has been adopted temporal power of theclergy, who are nothing but the
all comprised, in one form or another, in a desire to render t:qre censure or observation, then it will bee
competent tools of Russia, hence the distinction drawn by. Prince
certain and permanent the advantages to which Russia forfe ndaltUnceordunicatkaeneducn
policy observations, and for us to de- Menschikoff, and the resolution not to accept anything but
thought herself entitled in favour of the professors of the ; but all I thought necessary the entire concession of both spiritual and temporal pnvi-
on the present occasion was to make to the house such a leges, rights, and immunities.l3 Whatever may be said to
Greek religion. Lord Stratford understood from the statement as would enable it to comprehend the present the contrary, she hassu eed. Her great object has been
Turkish Minister that it had been much desired by the state of these transactions. to crush the spirit of political and religious independence
Russian ambassador that the request which was made on air. IayARD : Sir—l hope that the house will grant which has manifested itself of late years among the Chris-
the part of Russia should be withheld from the knowledge me that indulgence which it usually grants to members tael;encnittiaTtes Odf the Porte, and she will spare no effort to
of the representatives of the other powers of Europe. I who address it for the first time, and will permit me to say upon a projectn withl dwtashfaece23.ads me to say a:•ew wortds
believe that these demands were as new to the Govern- a few words on a subject which, as the house may be and elsewhere have endeavourednoP la.it:stoiLtnitlacirsentl%
ment of France as they were to the Government of Eng- aware, has long deeply interested me. (Hear, hear.) My British public—the immediate establishment of a so-called
land, and that they were as new to the Government of noble friend the member for the city of London has com- independentlselvetat XseeskchEmpire at Constantinople. Now, I
Austria as they were to the Government of France. After menced by stating that he is not going to defend the to it, is based upon aenfi.attaweyerelthzrneo political objections
a considerable time these propositions were changed in their attacked of the Government, as that policy has never been in the first place, the true Greek popurinaientho; house that
aspect; and the house heard, and will recollect reading in —and for a very good reason—the noble lord has Europe is very small indeed when compared with the Zanier
the papers, that there was first a convention proposed in never given me an opportunity of making any comments Christians s2ubjects ofiftliite. Pdorte. It certainly does not
one form, and afterwards a convention proposed in another whatever, either favourable or unfavourable, upon the population the Greeks are cinonefinde:lxteoealespl;o7s9, of. As a
form, and that finally Prince Menschikoff presented a note policy of her Majesty's Government. (Hear, hear.) My salt'. Elsewhere they are merely scattered throvuinghethe eTohuens--
to the Turkish Government, which note was to be signed noble friend will, therefore, I trust, admit that I have in try in detached communities, living amidst the Selavonians
by the Turkish Minister of Foreign Affairs, and which this motion shown no factions desire to impede the policy and Bulgarians, who form the real Christian population of
stated that that was the least concession that he could
of the Government, or to compel her Majesty's Ministers Turkey in Europe. The language of these races is not
make, and that, unless the note was signed by the Turkish Greek—they differ from the Greeks in blood—they look
Minister for Foreign Affairs, Prince Menschikoff and his to make disclosures which might prove injurious to the upon them with great jealousy, and for years they have
mission would be obliged to leave Constantinople, and that public service. I hope my noble friend will believe, and been struggling to throw off all connection with them by
Russia would not be responsible for the very grave evils that the house will believe, that I should not have been so refusing to accept Greekpriests for their clergy and bishops.
which might ensue. Language at least to this effect was
presumptuous as to put myself forward in a matter of such The Servians, to whom I look as the nucleus of the great
contained in the note of the Russian ambassador. However,southern division of the Slave race, have completely thrown
so eminently delicate a nature had
the Turkish Government did not consider that the signature vast importance and of
off all dependence upon the Greek patriarch of Constanti-
of such a note would be compatible with the independence I not been conscientiously convinced that I had an act of nople, and have elected a patriarch of their own. (Hear.)
and the dignity of the Sultan, and they declined to affix the duty to perform, and that I might, however humbly, If we were to establish a Greek em • it •called, that
pre, as is
sig,nature of their Minister for Foreign Affairs to the note throw some light upon the question at issue. Indeed, in which occurred in the fifteenth century would inevitably
proposed. At the same time the Turkish Minister, instead
of a direct and simple negative, wrote a note on his part, whichthe first instance I as of pinion that dis u • in this
w c ssion
he said that he was quite ready to transmit to the Russian house, and a public statement of the true facts of the case, dof •t of hostile
made upio.a variety and opposite races—Bulga-
ambassador if it would be taken as satisfactory, and thus which had been greatly misunderstood and distorted, cinema,
peopleir'rusrisuen in eErvaursons—iwnifiaotethe very races which
to close all disputes between the two Governments. I should would have much contributed towards strengthening her to the Turkish hordes.r The inevitablecruenisteiltuOlf placingeassreya
mention here that the question with regard to the Holy Majesty's Government in pursuing a firm and wise policy. Greek Government at Constantinople would be tothrow
Places, and all the particulars and various details which (Hear, hear.) But I have in this respect also shown, I the whole of Turkey into the hands of Russia—(hear)—
related to the Greek and Latin Churches, had been previ- trust, a due deference to the opinion of her Majesty's and to render impossible a future independence for any
ously arranged in a manner that was satisfactory to Prince Government, and remained silent, although, by so doing, Christian race that might be destined to hold the Turkish
Menschikoff and the Russian Government. Prince Mens- I have exposed myself to considerable misapprehension provinces of Europe hereafter. (Hear.) Moreover, there
chikoff, however, instead of accepting this note, or consider- and even animadversion. Some, and those whose opinions is nothing very encouraging in the state of the modern
ing it as a basis for future negotiation, immediatelywithdrew I respect, have been led to believe that I, and those friends kingdom of Greece ; that experiment, at least, should warn
his mission from Constantinople, and retired to the Russian who share in my sentiments, have wished to urge this us for the present. (Hear.) In my opinion a Greek Go-
frontier. Sir, I regard this circumstance as one that was country on to a war. A. war ! Is there any man so reek- vernment at Constantinople would at this time be more
very greatly to be lamented. It has always appeared to me less, so insensible to the inestimable blessings of peace, adverse to the spread of civilisation. and of liberty than 8.
that on the one side and on the other there were who would in these days urge this great country to an Turkish. (Hear.) The Greek religion is essentially a per-
statements which could be admitted, while there were unnecessary war ? But nevertheless although such are scouting religion. I need scarcely remind the house of the
others which might have been the subject of compromise my sentiments, I cannot but regret the languien which has persecutions of the Roman Catholics in Russian Poland, and.
and arrangement. The Russian Minister maintained that been on more than one occasion, and in more tan one place, of the Protestant missionaries and communities in Georgia
Russia had by certain treaties, especially by those of held by the noble earl at the head of her Majesty's Govern- —nor that the first article ofthe Greek constitution de-
Kaino,rdji and of Adrianople, the right to expect that the ment, " that his policy is essentially based on "Sofapeace. uch dares that proselytism is forbidden. The name of Don
Christians in the Turkish territory would be protected, in my humble opinion, should not be the language
and he declared at the same time that Russia did not wish great statesman. Teed man to whom the interests of this annual persecution of the Jews by the Greeks. lam
in any manner to injure the independence or the integrity great country are confied should have no other policy than aware that there are some who go so far as to say that it
of the Turkish empire. The Sultan's Ministers, on their that which best becomes, hose interests. If unfortunately would signify little whether Constantinople were in the
part, maintained that it was their duty above all things the honour and inters of England can only be main- hands of Russia or not. As there is no British statesman
to maintain the independence of the Sultan—that nothing ,sinned by war, we should be convinced too to war, and I, sir, who would venture to coincide in such au opinion, it in
should be acceded to which would be injurious to his dig- for one, have no doubt that, when of the necessity scarcely necessary to meet it with any serious argu-
nity or would derogate from his rights, but at the same of war, every man in this country ,vill heartily make any ments ; but I will only ask this question—Are we
time they declared it was the intention of the Sultan to sacrifice to bring it to an honourable issue. But if we prepared to deal with all these great provinces which
protect his Christian subjects, and to maintain them in can maintain peace consistently with that honour and make up what is called the Turkish empire ? (Hear
the rights and privileges which they enjoyed by conces- those interests, then no sacrifice too great can be made hear, hear.) Remember that the moment the slen-
sions and edicts that had been issued by himself and his to preserve it. Why have we heard on all sides during der tie which binds them together—Constantinople—
predecessors. Such being the statements on the two sides, the recent alarm—in the lobby of this house, in private is broken, they must become the seat of anarchy and COD-.
I own it appears to me that the withdrawal of the Russin circles, amongst men of all opinions—" Had the noble lord fusion. It is very well to talk of driving the Turks into
mission from Constantinople, aided at the same time alit the member ,for Tiverton been at the Foreign-office we Asia ; but how are we to induce the native Mussulman
was—aided, I mean, as a means of compulsion by the pre- should not have been in these straits." (Hear, hear.) Was population to consent to such an arrangement ?It should
p tion of a large Russian force both military and naval it because the country wanted war ? (Hear, hear.) No ; be remembered that the Turks axe merely a dominant
on the frontier of Turkey—was a most unfortunate step, it was because the country was convinced that the best tribe, and that the far greater part of the population of
and has been one which has given, naturall ve rat b rY g means of preserving peace was to assume at once a firm Asia are not Turks—it is made up. of Syrians, Arabs,
alarm to Europe, while it has imposed great sacrifices and dignified attitude ;to let the world know that, how- Jews, Armenians, Surds, and a variety of other
both upon Turkey and the Turkish provinces adjoining and rt. l - races,
ever anxious England might be for peace, she was prepared only held together by the moral po i Ica prestige of
Russia. Her Majesty's Government, when these ap- for war if unfortunately she should be called upon to go the Turkish Government ; destroy that prestige by sub-
pearances became so serious, thought it necessary to give to war in support of her own rights and of those rights jecting the Sultan to the humiliation ofd
tribes,
expelled
directions that her Majesty's fleet should leave Malta and which she was bound by treaty to defend, or upon which from Europe, and you let loose those wit f
and the
approach the neighbourhood of the Dardanelles. The depended the balance of power in Europe. No other atti- countries they inhabit would be the seats o aoarchy and
French fleet had a short time before been sent to the Bay tulle was worthy of this country ; any other attitude was confusion. Are we prepred to take possession of Asia
of Salamis ; but there was
.a perfect. concert between the b •
ut an encouragement to such . ~ h lawless 'powers as Russia, Minor, Mesopotamia, Syria, and Egypt, or can we allow
It all d b th
two Governments upon this subject. was ege y u and must ultimately and inevitably lead to war. The them to pass into
'the hands of Russia and France? (Hear.)
dominant
French Government, and truly alleged, that while their words spoken by the great Lord Chatham on an occasion For we must do one or the other, as there is no
fleet remained in the harbour of Toulon it was not so very nearly similar to the present were so apposite, almost family in any of those countries except Egypt. We should.
much within reach of any demand from Constantinople as indeed prophetical, that I trust the house will permit me not forget that although Egypt is a high road to India,
the British fleet would be at Malta, and that it was desir- to quote them :—" My lords, I cannot agree with the Syria and the valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates form the
able that the two fleets should be ready to act together if noble duke, that nothing less than an immediate attack high road, and any power holding those countries would
such a step should be necessary, That allegation had been upon the honour or interest of this nation can authorise. us command India. Moreover, the power which holds Con-
perfectly borne out by the facts, because when the orders to interpose in defence of weaker states, and in stopping stantinople will ever be looked upon in the East as the
were ultimately given to the two fleets to proceed to Betake. the enterprise of an ambitious neighbour. Whenever that dominant power of the world, and with Russia at Con-
Bay it was found to be not only as easy but more easy to narrow, selfish policy has prevailed in our councils, we stantinople our tenure of India would always be a purely
give directions at Malta to have the English fleet sent to have constantly experienced the fatal effects of it. By suf.- military tenure. All those reforms which some of my lion
Bay
Besika Bay than it was to order the French fleet from the fering our natural enemies to oppress the powers less able friends who have been sitting on the benches near me have
Bay of Salamis to Besika Bay. Therefore the two Govern- than we are to make a resistance, we have permitted them been advocating for the populations of those vast posses-
metspon this occasion and throughout the negotiations to increase their strength, we have lost the most favourable sions—reforms in the value and importance of which I most
have acted entirely. in concert, and have endeavoured in a opportunities of opposing them with success, and found heartily agree—will be utterly impossible. But I will not
similar spirit, by daily and constant communication, to ourselves ourast obliged to run every hazard in making dwell upon this subject. Russia is well aware that no Eu-
obtain a solution of this question which would be corn- that cause own, in which we were not wise enough to roe an statesman would permit her to take possession of
patch with the independence and the dignity of the take part while the expense and danger might have been Constantinople at this time. (Hear.) I
incitewil not say that
Porte, and which at the same time might not lead to any supported by others. I fear, my lords, it is too much the she does not look forward to the possession of that great
disturbance of the peace of Europe. Sir, the next step temper of this country to be insensible to the approach of prize sooner or later ; but her object now
that was taken by the Russian Government was a direc- danger until it comes with accumulated terror upon us." independent nationalities in Turkey impossible, to weaken
tion to the army of Russia to occupy the principalities, With regard to the question at issue, the real point of dif- the Turkish power gradually but surely, and to show all
with a declaration at the same time that it was not to be ference between her Majesty's Government and myself is, those who would oppose her designs that any such oppo-
considered as an hostile invasion of the principalities, or whether a great principle has been involved, and whether sition is not only useless, but will entail upon them her
as an act of war, but that it was intended to occupy the the conduct of Russia has been part and parcel of a great vengeance; in fact, to render any other Government het
principalities as an imperial guarantee for peace, and as a scheme, or whether it has been a mere casual and temporary her own ultimately impossible in Turkey. (Hear, hear.)
means of pressure upon the Turkish Government, in order occurrence, which could be patched up without material In this design she has entirely succeeded on this occasion,
to obtain those moral securities for peace which the Russian injury or gain to any party concerned. I confess that in and it is on this account that I contend that a great prim.
Government had constantly sought by negotiation. It was my humble opinion a great principle has been involved, ciple is involved in the recent question, and that we ought
considered by the English and French Governments, as well and what has happened is part of a great scheme. (Hear, to have dealt with it accordingly. (Heara
1 We have
as by the 'Darkish Government, that in default of any com- hear.) Without troubling the house at this late period committed, in my humble opinion two grave diplomatic
munication either with Great Britain or France, it was de- with a recital of all the circumstances connected with errors. (Hear, hear.) In the first place, when. Colonel
sirable, seeing what great interests were at stake, to forego Prince Menschikofra mission—a recital such as the noble Rose learned that Prince Menschikoff was prepared • h
the clear and undoubted right of Turkey to consider thiswith a
lord has made, and which I should almost blush to make, secret treaty, a fact known to many persons at c n tan
proceeding as a case of war, and to enter into further nego- and which would afford examples of duplicity, falsehood, tinople, and that he had informed the Portsof -° • a --
tiations, by which the ends sought for might be attained. injustice, and insolence almost unequalled—l think I shall tion to force it upon her, forbiddin it
his mten-
No actual hostilities, therefore, further than the occupation be able to show upon what grounds that opinion is founded. Emperor's high displeasure, to g t under pain of the
of those provinces by the Russian forces, have hitherto The whole question resolves itself simply into a question powers, and when we learnt, not f
communicate it to the other
taken place. Sir, it was the opinion of her Majesty's Govern- of independent nationalities. (Hear, hear.) I have heard from positive and reliabl • _rom mere report, but
ment that, whilst they placed the fleet of Great Britain in much of the concessions made by the Porte to France, and Government was engaged. information, that the Russian
conjunction with the fleet of France at the disposal of the of the intrigues of M. do Lavalette. They might have the frontiers of T in preparing vast armaments on
ambassadors of the two Powers in Constantinople, to be formed a very good excuse for the conduct of Russia ; but have been satisfiedurkey and. at Odessa, we ought not to
called up to Constantinople in case of emergency, it was at I will venture to say that they had had very little really has stated with such assurances as the noble lord
the same time desirable to gather up the broken threads of to do with the matter. I know from undoubted authority h h were given to us in London and St. Peters-
the negotiations, and to attempt to arrive at BOMB arrange- , burgh-(hear, —(hear hear)—b
and I have no doubt that her Majesty's Government is on a • ! but we should at once have insisted
ment by which the question might be settled. The different also aware of the fact, that M. Titoff, the Russian Minister,of tn immediate disarmament, or such satisfactory proofs
Powers considered of various means for its settlement ; but had had in his possession for days if not for weeks, the he pacific intentions of Russia as would have removed
more especially the Minister for Foreign Affairs of France draft of the firman afterwards granted to the French Go- all doubts whatever on the subject. (Hear, bear.) Our
—a person whose talents, moderation, and judgment, it ia vernment, and upon which the demands for redress of the neglecting to do so was a grave error. (Hear, bear.) That
impossible not totted mate highly--drew up a note, which Russian Government were founded, and that no objecti error having been committed we had no remedy ; but we
we considered omitte the objectionable part of Turkishanods whatever was made to that document. Moreover, we h 01l
had another opportunity, and committed a second error.
of Prince Menschikoff, and those p.arts of the note
seen that the French Government at once disavowed air The very moment we were informed by Russia that she in-
which the Russian Government might think tinadmissible, de Lavalette, and renounced any extraordinary ri .1 M. tended to cross the Pruth we ought to have said to her,
and endeavoured to frame a note to whichotvheerntwmodiLls, inconnsiste with the pretensions of Russia which tivalates "As soon as you enter the Turkish territory, we shall col:
might agree. At this time the Austrian G might . ve onforced upon her, wisely d • fir- sider it a cases belli, and bring up our fleet to Cyrenshoutid
t the house, de- mo b eemmg it
as I have stated on a former occasion o I
should
say, it
France
re °coming the true dignity of a nople." (Cheers.) Ido not mean to say that
dined the poposal—previously to this time, Europe
to make concession than to endanger th
great nation • the effect of
like have gone to war allbut this would have been.th
Government,to the Porte)
had declined the proposal of her Majestfsturope by insisting upon empty religious e Peace
of
our declaration— the treaties of Russia with ,
and in.
• circumstances.
enter into any conference on these importan ciried
the
rill_ little in accordance with the spirit of the privileges, but upon which she founded her pretensions to pi:, tealsel would
But when the Russian Government had o op
fctche subject and it might not be difficult to prove, sh h age' but to which, terfere with the Christian subjects of the
_o_brogated—
cipalities, Austria changed her view o
the spirt of the extent actual treaty right. (Hear, ? p.d. to a considerable have been, ipso facto, by the law of twos '
ted that Turkey
she declared that, in conformity with
f sp
the repro- to the conduct of Russia. Tw r, near.) But let us look (hear) —and we should then have i.n, Russia, to which
treaty of 1841, it was absolutely necessareoonrfereneed Menschikoff will give the k oor three acts of Prince should enter into no new treaties. wit/i -
d of which they
sentatives of the various powers to meet
bl in
lt. fdi an
they are those acts which ey to his whole policy, and France and England were not P ff,,
- gao we held such lan-
to endeavour to obtain some arnica
te so u leen() :)_. ffer- noticed. On his arrival ,as usual, have been the least did not approve. (Hear, hear.)at Russia would not have)
emcee which might otherwise imperil the peac
_f Europe. &lately after his pubat Constantinople, and isms- guage with firmness, I think ila
d we should, in the very be-
The Minister of Foreign Affairs of US
Brits_ took the pro- monstration calculated° entry, celebrated by every de- dared to cross the Prutht an
h estion to an issue. (Hear,
position of the French Government a he groundwork to insult the Porte, and to en- ginning, have brought
doubt citnat the Russians will now
courage rebellion
of the proposition which he made to the conference. I
Menschikoff d amongst its Christian subjects, Prince hear.) I have little 4.:ii.
s. It would not be worth the
have already stated, on a former occasion, that it was andemanded the dismissal of the first Mi- evacuate the princifau
in war with the whole of Europe
mister of
Austrian proposition, but it came originally from France. was u frt the Prince of Servia a demand which while of Russia to engage
rovinces which were, to all intents
That proposition was submitted for consideration about and 1! o unately conceded, but which called forth a firm on account of tier 10)yra. (Hear, hoer:
) She
es
aeons-
the 24th July, and no doubt information was immediately , lgnified remonstrance from the Servian Senate—a and purposes,
to their occupation without a case of war,
conveyed to St. Petersburg of the intentions of the Austrian 1 document so honourable to those who framed it that I re- toured Europe that she may. do with them as she
Government. Her Majesty's Government requested to see rat time will not permit me to read it to the house. and she has
that any one of their inhabitants who may
the note as it was proposed, with such modifications as Hear, hear.) This first step would have given key- pleases, andse scarcely will be subjected to her heavy dia.
the Austrian Government might think it necessary . note of Prince Menschikoff's mission to any one resin,acqd dare to opp
- We know the importance of even her
to in- •
traduce. That, of course, led to explanations and further with the usual course of Russian policy in the East. M. pleasure.
t ewer over the principalities. I will put aside the
HO presen p
communications ; and it was not till the 31st—that i 1 Garashinen was the popular and national minister.
He consideration of our trade—no insignificant consideration,
week after the first conference—that the final fa' a I was one of those men which the events of 1813 hadbrot
ig however—but I will observe that Russia now commands
was held, in which the form of the note was complete]conference forth—events of which I may presume toe speak with sometlitbem. the Danube, and can bring her intrigues to bear upon the
arranged and settled to the satisfaction of the y \ 0011fidellee, as I was not altogether unconncted Ei.uce mi-
whole Sclavonian population of Turkey.
•(Hear, hear.) It
tives of the four powers, and to the satisfaction represents- I The house might remember that at that period l'
o urar move- should be borne in mind that the principalities united to
vernment of Turkey. The house has already o f the Go- chael, the son of Milosh, was expelled by p
il
'Kara-George, Bessarabia—a province inhabited .by a similar race—on
that intelligence has been confirmed by sub heard, and \ ment from Servia, and the present prince,
l tional movement, one side, and Hungary on the other, would cut in two the
nation, that the Emperor of Russia has . sequent infer- i elected in his stead. This was a pure y.
11 that of Russia, great Slave race. It would seem that Providence had thus
to the note of the four given his adhesion I made a •
eamst foreign influence, espesta y
ere tool. The placed this alien tribe in
powers; therefore , ' Michael had become a m the midst of the Sclavonian
original cause of dissension is concerned, , so far as that ' in whose hands
elaimed a right of interference, races that Russia might not, by uniting them under one
Emperor of Russia has a demand to makeand so far as the Russian Governmente
bl pinion WaS completely unauthorised sway, acquire a power fatal to civilisation and freedom.
the Emperor of Russia no longer • ,in that respect which in my uM
lit
in which unfortunately she was supported We have lost a golden opportunity of making these pro-
form of Prince lienschikoff's not insists upon the exact by his country..
(Hear, hoar.) She compelled the Porto, vines the barriers to Russian ambition. (Hear, hear.)
some of the state papers that have et which, according to by this
threats o nvasion, to cancel the national act, and To Wallachia and Moldavia, independent and united with
appear to have been the case, but een published, would under
el those who had been engaged in it from Servia. Bessarabia—a province which, by one of those fatal errors
will be attained and that his, hconsiders that his objects to 1)
The noble earl now at the head of her Majesty's Govern- we have so repeatedly committed, we have allowed to fall
note as thus prepared be . onour will be saved? if the
t but then Foreign Secretary, justified his policy bm a
.7 into the hands of Russia—we must ultimately look, I be-
agreed to the Turkish Go- men , a eared to me subversive
vernment. I have stated by
the declaration which has always pp lieve, for the only means of preserving Constantinople from
2d of August that thisnote already that it was upon
le. of all public law, and as calculated to render the will of the Russia. Tear, hear.) We have, we are told, to congratu-
_ was sent to Constantinople.
There has not been strongest the law of Europe. He declared " that Russia late °urn WS upon haying achieved a victory—a Peaceful
hitherto any communication from i