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London, England, 1854-05-13 00:00:00

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3Drur, i ()f Newcastle
(A laugh.)
Mr. Moore then quitted .
the subject, and proceeded to
question his Grace about
elections of 1853. Inhis connexion with the Irish
his Grace said that he tookanswern to the questions put to him,
no more part in those elections
than was taken by every one
politics. He had no
or
was at all interested in
Ireland. He never propertyrecommenderd .Ir.
personaloil connexion in
Ball or any
one else to contest Carlow, and should certainly y say, that
he never had any conversation at all with any gentleman
as to the propriety of his standing for that 13
forthe borough of Dungarvan, there were originally ()Fo. As
candidates in the field there, Mr. Maguire, air. O'Flaherty,
and and Mr. Alexander Hope. Mr. O'Flaherty called upon him
one morning and informed him that he had been in thein
field for three or four days, of which he (the Duke of
Newcastle) had previously known nothing. Mr. O'Flaherty
explained to him that Mr. Hope and he were nearly, if not
altogether, of the same opinion, and begged him to use his
influence with his friends in Ireland to procure Mr. Hope's
withdrawal, lest through their fighting one another the
seat should go to Mr. Maguire. He (the Duke of New-
castle) replied that he did not know at all whether Mr.
Hope or Mr. O'Flaherty was the most eligible, but he
should do his best. Accordingly, he made a verbal com-
munication to Mr. Hope, through a friend; and there
began and there ended his interference in the Dungarvan

election.
The Committee here objected that they did not see what
all this had to do with Mr. Henry Stonor, but the Duke
appealed to them to allow the matter to go on to its utmost
possible limits. Thera were insinuations contained in the
questions put to him which ought to be followed out,
although he was not aware of having taken any interest in
Irish elections derogatory to his position, either as a peer
of the realm, a Minister of the Crown, or a gentleman. He
knew nothing of the subsequent circumstances of Mr. Ma-
guire's resignation and re-election. One morning Mr.
O'Flaherty called, and begged a few minutes' conversation,
which he willingly accorded. From the turn the conver-
sation took, he was induced to stop Mr. O'Flaherty and
tell him that he suspected he had come in fact to ask his
advice about effecting a compromise between' Mr. Maguire
and him ; that that was a thing with which he (the Dukeof
Newcastle) would have nothing whatever to do, and that
such a transaction was one which, in the case of a relation,
he should feel himself bound to oppose by every means in
his power. Mr. O'Flaherty admitted that that had been
the object of his visit, and the matter ended there. He
interested himself in the election for the county of Dublin
to the extent of calling on a gentleman of that county, a
friend of his then in London, to ask him to give his support
to Mr. A. Craven, one of the unsuccessful candidates, and
he believed that his friend did give to Mr. Craven what sup-
port he could. Be also spoke to a gentleman, a friend of his,
who was also a friend of Mr. Norton's, to try to induce that
gentleman to withdraw from the last contest for Athlone.
l hat gentleman, he believed, spoke to Mr. Norton on the sub-
ject, but unsuccessfully. He never saw Mr. Keogh on the
subject of his own or any other election. He did not inter-
fere to any extent whatever in the election for Sligo. He
took just that interest in it that he had taken at breakfast
ill it morning in the Devonport election. Ho was glad to see
that a supporter of the Government was returned instead
of a supporter of the Opposition. But, even supposing that
Mr. Henry Stonor had been recommended to him by Mr.
Sadleir, Mr. Townley, Mr. Keogh, or others, he must pro-
test against any interference unfair to the Secretary of
State being deduced therefrom, for it was generally be-
lieved that Parliamentary recommendations were indispen-
sable to the obtaining such situations as that in qaestion,
and it often happened that the most fitting candidates were
recommended by members of Parliament. Mr. Stoner's
application was received on the 30th of November, 1853.
He was not appointed till the 20th of December. That de:
lay had been caused by his (the Duke of Newcastle's) ana-
-1 iety to find, if possible, a more qualified candidate. He
had thought of moving to Australia Judge Lee, of Baha-
ma, who (such was the nature of the climate), had had
the misfortune to bury every one of his family there,
and was only retained in the colony by the impos-
sibility of gaining his bread elsewhere. He (the Duke
of Newcastle) was earnestly desirous of befriend-
ing Judge Lee, and spoke to Mr. Merivale about sending
him in place of Mr. Stonor, but the uncertainty of perma-
nence and the possibility of casting a friend penniless upon
the world had induced him to refrain from advising the
judge to move. He hoped the committee would do him
the justice to call and examine his private secretary as to
this and every other appointment he had made, as ho could
not but feel that this was the only possible way of clearing
his character from imputations that had been most un-
justly cast upon it. (Cheers.) If any blame or discredit
attached to any one in the matter, it was to him alone.
Mr. Peel ought to be entirely exonerated. That gentleman
represented the Colonial-office in the House of Commons,
but was in no way responsible for any appointment. His
only responsibility was to him (the Duke of Newcastle).
Mr. Peel was a most indefatigable public servant, and was
of the greatest possible use in the situation he held. He
hoped; they would examine Mr. Peel. No communication
at all bad passed between them on the subject, and neither
knew what the other would say. So anxious had he (the
Duke of Newcastle) been that this should be the case,
that when he saw Mr. Peel there that morning he had
begged of him not to remain during his (the Duke of
Newcastle's) examination,—a thing which Mr. Peel had
never any intention to do. The most painful part
of all this business was that he had been obliged to
write to the Governor of Victoria that he should not be
able to confirm the appointment of the gentleman he bad
sent out. At first it did not appear to him that the cir-
cumstances were strong enough to warrant that step, but
the tone of the speeches in the House of Commons, espe-
cially the use made by Mr. Divett of the term "disc it-
able," Ha
proved to him that circumstances had changed. _
felt that where an election committee spoke through their
chairman, irrespective of the question of unanimity or
majority in that committee, it was the bounden
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only in the knowledge of, but on account of, his
dishonourable conduct ; whereas he had been ap-
point• 1 on the recommendation of the first judges in the
kingdom. The noble Duke then begged that he might be
again sentfor should the committee wish to put any further
questions to him. Notwithstanding the weight of his two
offices of War and Colonial Secretary just now, he should
he happy to afford any information and explanations in
his power. His Grace then left the room, the membemi of
the committee remaining standing till he passed the door.
Mr. Frederick Peel corroborated generally the evidence
given by the Duke of Newcastle. When he stated in the
House of Commons that the Government did not see they
would be justified in cancelling the appointment of Mr.
Stonor, he ought rather to have spoken for himself person-
ally. The Duke had said to him shortly before that his
impression was that the appointment ought not to be can-
celled, but whether his Grace had then seen the report of
the Sligo Committee he could not say. At the same time,
he had not been very correctly reported.
Mr. Moore stated that he should like to call all the
noblemen and gentlemen who had given testimonials to
Mr. Stonor, that he might question them as to the know-
ledge of his antecedents.
The room was then cleared, and the committee after-
wards adjourned to Monday at one o'clock.

RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS.

LIVERPOOL, MAY 12.
STOCK EXCIIANGE.—The market I has been steady to-
day, closing a shade above theiclosing quotations of yester-
day. Birkenhead, Lancashire, and Cheshire (221. shares),
7 13-16 d. ; Caledonian, 26t ; East Lancashire, 14$ ; Lan-
cashire and Yorkshire, 59A ; London and North-Western,
95i ; Midland, 57 ; South-Eastern, 178 ; York, New.
castle, and Berwick, Bid.

BIRMINGHAM, MAT 12.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The market here was well ell,-
ported to-day.—Birmingham, Wolverhampton, and Stour
Valley, 8i ; Great Western, 72i.

MANCHESTER, MAY 12.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The market has been quiet, at the
closing prices of yesterday. Leeds stock, 59i u'
Eastern
Counties, 12 ; Midlands, 57} ; Chester and Birkenhead
(221. shares), n d. ; East Lancashire, 14i ; London tithe,
1 dis.

LEEDS—MAY 12.
STOCK EXCIIANGE.—The share market this morning has
manifested renewed symptoms of a decline. Very little
was done, and purchasers, were reluctant operators, even
at a concession in terms. The alteration of the rate of dis-
count by the Bank of England s a material cause of the
Midland stock, 57i ;
depression. The following are the closing transactions
Lancashie and Yorkshires,
Ctledonians, 26i ; Leeds Northern fifths, it dis. ; Nor h-
-7i.

PERSECUTION OF ROMAN CATHOLICS IN RUSSIA.— The
Ecclesiastical Gazette of Vienna publishes another article
on the subject of the measures resorted to in Russia to
make proselytes to the Greek Church. Amongst other
things it is stated that Catholics in Russia are frequently,
after being beaten and expelled from their homes, made
to sign petitions to be admitted into the Greek church ;
and if, after having done this, they are found still to
practise the Catholic faith, they are proceeded against ae
state criminals.