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tish officers, respecting slavery and the slave trade in Cuba,
eiuce August, 1e53, not already laid before this house.
BIRD-CAGE WALK.
Mr. OLIVEIRA aekedthe First Connuissiener of Works
whether, looking to the increase of traffic which may be
expected over new Westminster-bridge, in the line of
Great George-street, it would not be desirable to leave the
thoroughfare open-in thet locality, by not erecting a gate
on the site of the one keit removed at the end of Birdcage-
walk, known RS Storey's-gate.
Sir W. MOLES WOR'I.7II said the Birdcage-walk was a
part and portion of St. James's-park, um! in consequence
neither carts, nor waggons, nor omnibuses, were permitted
to enter it, but if the gates were taken away from both
extremities of the Birdcage-walk, then it would be an open
thoroughfare for carte. waggons. or omnibuses, because in
no case were those vehicles prohibited from going through
any street except where gates were put up at one end. It
would be a serious inconvenience and damage to the houses
in Birdcage-walk if the road were thrown ope d. At
present there was abundant accommodation through
Victoria-street, and the public wouldt suffer no incon-
venience from the gates proposed to be erected, be•
cause the gates would be so constructed that two
carriages could go in at the same time. It was pro-
comet to, take down the Buckingham-gate, so that
a vehicle would be able to proceed from the Birdcage-walk
to the new road at Pimlico.
MR FRANCIS LAW-LEY.
Sir J. PAKINGTON asked the Secretary of State for
the Colonies whether her Majesty had been advised, or
whether it was his isteutioti to advise her Majesty, to ap-
point the Hon. Francis I awley, lately a member of this
house, and lately private secretary to one of her Majesty's
Ministers, to he governor of one of the Australian colonies,
and. if so, which of these colonies he was to govern ?
Sir G. GREY said her Majesty had been pleased to ap-
point Mr. Francis Law.ey to be governor of the colony of
South Australia.
TRINITY PARISH, HOBART TOWN.
Lord R. CECIL moved* that an address be agreed to for
copies or extracts of all correspondence, papers. and dlocn
meets that have been receiver] at the Colonial-office respect-
ing the proposed appointment of the Rev. J. G Medland
and Rev. W. W. F. Murray to the chaplaincy of Trinity
Parish; Hobert Town.
Sir G. GREY said the correspondence was a very
voluminous one, and the production of it would lead to no
good result. He hoped the difference in question would
be settled.
THE STATUTE LAW COMMISSION.
Mr. BOWYER asked the law officers of the Crown
whether they could offer any explanation of the delay that
had taken place in the appointment of the Statute Law
Commission, as announced by the Attorney-General iu
committee of' supply
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL sail he had himself had
no communication with the commissioners ; but he would
take an opportunity of communicating with them, and let
the house know the result.
FEES UPON PATENTS.
Mr. A. PELT A"l'l' asked the Secretary of the Treasury
whether, agreeably to the requirement of the Patent Law
Amendment Act, the Commissioners of Patents of Riven
tions had laid a report before Parliament of all the , pro-
ceedings under anti iu pursuance of the said act, and .f not,
whether the report had been prepared and was realer to
lay before Parliament this session; also, whether the law
officers of Scotland and Ireland had received a share of the
fees upon patents, or whether, in lieu thereof, they had
accepted a fixed salary, and what was the amount they had
received since the Ist des of October, 1852 (the date of the
act). and the nature of the duties they had performed.
Mr. Vs ILSON said the report to which the h. n. gentle.
men referred had not yet been laid 'on the table of the
house, but it was now ready, and would be presented on
Tuesday or Wednesday, in next week. With regard to
the officers of Ireland and Scbtllind they did not now enjoy
any part of the fees.
OXFORD UNIVERSITY BILL.
On the order of the day for the consideration of the
Lords' amendments in this bill,
Lord J. RUSSELL said, generally speaking, the Govern
went was disposed to agree with the ?amendments. There
were a few in which they di.l not agree, but they were not
of sufficient importance to state them separately, and he
would state them as they went on.
The amendments were then read. On one of them,
TheCHA -CELLORof the EXCHEQUERsaid it would
be recel.ecte.l that they had a geed deal of discussion a+ to
the day on which the hebdomadal council should commence
its functions, amid atter infinite trouble they settled! it.
When they wept to the House of Lords they settled it also
to their satiefection. The House of Lords had fixed the
14th slay of Michaelmas term for the council to be deecte I,
but as they were to be elected by a body which would not
be in existence till the 15th, there wee a difficulty.
Some discussion ensued, which resulted in an amend
went proposed by Lord J.. RUSSELL, to obviate the diffi-
culty, being agree► to.
On the Lords' amendment, that " congregational " he
substituted fur sectional election in the case of the members
of the heletemedal council,
Mr. WALPOLE said that it would be a ,grave question
for tee house to c mushier whether they would agree to the
amend! men t. Originals the hetelowail sl board consiste I
only of the heals of houses, but its cqmp.sitiota being con
si.lereti nef vourable to the university element, it had been
proposed that it should consist of three classes—one-third
heads of houses, one-third professors, and one-third mem-
bers of convocation. The house hail decided that each

plunder was in it. (Laughter.) It was nothing more nor '
loss than robbing nee class of persons to assign what was
taken to another class.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was
certainly surprised to hear the right hon. gentleman (Mr.
Henley), who adhered with great tenacity to some of •the
smaller institutions of the country—(laughter)—speaking
as he had done of the House of Lords. (Laughter.) He
ventured to say that the House of Lords had by their con-
duct
on that question done everything to weaken, and no- !
thing to strengthen themselves. The amendment which
they had set down was an amendment not in favour of
plunder and robbery, as the right hon. gentleman sup-
posed, but an amendment in favour of moral and intellec-
tual excellence as against ignorance and abuse. (Hear.)
What the House of Lords had done was to give to rem-
patent parties the power of considering on lareer awl more
general grounds than the Corporetion of Abingdon wontl
consider, whetherit were desirable or not that certain pri•
vileges should be continued. (Hear, hear.) He trusted
that that house would not set itself against the House of
Lords in a Case in which the House of Lords les.l vote I in
favour of large and general interests, and in which all that
could be said. in favour of the opposite interests was thud
they were those of kindly, pare:mid, and local feelings.
Sir W. HEATHCOTE thought his right hon frietid had
shown on that occasion the a.gereese of a psiti-an. In
saying that the parties interested ought to tie contented
with an impartial tribunal, his right hon. friend assume I
the pint in dispute, namely, that there was something
e Welt ought to he referred to this tribunal. It was use-
less to enter on the question of inure or less, when the
whole thing was an invasiou. It was no answer to say
that these schools interposed to prevent sceuething that
might be better. If so, what was the use of esteblishing
any school at all ?
Mr. G. VERNON slid he haul been of opinion in the
first instance, that the legislature haul uo right to inter-
fere with the various schools; bet the Government haul
been beaten on the question. He thought that the ilea@
of the schools were sufficiently maintained by leaving the n
their scholarships. The good of the university must also
be looked to ia the question of fellowship. He looked
with pleasure to the selection that hal been in vie of com-
missioners. and was confident they would discharge their
duties uprightly. The Chancellor of the Exchequer was
in error as to the Westminster sch ulars being entitled to
fellowships in Trinity College, Cambridge ; it was merely
scholarships in wbieh they had had a right.
Sir J. PAKINGTON twitted the last speaker with
having voted differently on two former occasions on this
question, and called on him to point out the difference in
principle between a scholarship and a fellowship. The
justification set up by the Chancellor of the Exchequer
itir the course puritueul by the House of Lords was utterly
inconsistent with the sentiments he had expressed four
years ago. He (Sir John) looked upon this as nothing
less than unjustifiable spolietiou ; and he was fortified iu
this opinion by that of the right ion gentleman himself.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—You have
no right to say that I pit elished a corrected report of the
speech you refer to, which differs materially from the
',query reports.
Sir J. PAKINGTON referred to the report in Hansard,
which male Mr. thaelsteue say that neither the House of
Commons nor the Crown would assume a jurisdiction to
remove those restraints,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Hear,
hear. Neither the House of Commous nor the Crown.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said the right hon. gentleman
was .certaiuly thankful for small mercies if he rested on
that distinction. In the speech referred to he protested
ge,iust examination as a test of fitness, and argued that
the scholarships and fellowships ought not to be thrown
open. Now, he talked of "intellectual excellence,"
and how would that be ascertained but by examination?
That very morning the house had before it a question
as to the intentions of a founder; and the right hon.
gentleman spoke warmly in support of those inten-
tions being respecte t ; let him apply that principle to
the case before the house. There were certain schools
in Worcestershire connected with Worcester College ;
and it would be a great injustice to those schools
to take away the fellowship,;. He could not but regret the
course of the Government; their object appeared to be to
induce the house.to stultify itself. On two previous occa
eions the house had decided in favour of this principle. by
large majorities in crowded houses— not in such a thin house
as. could be got together at the end of July.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, the house would recollect that
the last time this question was debated there had been only
e majority of 10 in favour of the proposition of the hon anti
learned gentleman, so that if the house came to a different
decision now, they would not be reversing the decision of a
large majority. The right hon, gentlemen opposite haul
ebarged his right hon. friend the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer with saying that " neither the House of Commons nor
the Crown coital assume the jurisdiction to retrieve these
restraints. His right lion friend said the same thing now.
Whet he and what the Government said was, that neither
the House of Commons nor the Crown could do soe but
that the whole body of Queen. Lords, and Coalitions could
;Svc its assent to •th alterations. (Hear, and a laugh.)
Their argutnent was that the founders of these institutions
intended that they shall, be for the promotion of religion
and learning, rather than a hindrance to it. It appetre.l to
hint that if they meant to give a preference to fitness they
c•iuld not adopt the propose! of the right hon gs utleman
opposite. It was clear eliet if the number was ►invited, it
would only moderate the degree of competency and lower
the standard of education.
The house then divided—

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striuld be elected by it? own class, but the— House of_ Lords
liv.t altered the provision, so that all the members should
ue elected by the congregitioh. The effect of this caange
would be to throw the entire governing Power of the uni-
versity into the h mils of a body of 251) persons. the mejoi ity
of whom were supposed to hold :v peculiar and special class
of opinions. The object of the Lords' amendment was in
create an oligarchy who wind not number une-tenth of
the members 'of the university. FI•1 should, therefore,
move that the house disagree with the amendment.
Lord J. RUSSELL was of opinion that the hAtteought
to agree with the amendment Hits effect hid been tb- re-
duce is la ge c..nstitue icy to a small one, there wuul I 132
Caine plauribility in the right bon. gentlearas argument.
In point of feet, however, the right hon. gentleman had
proposed that ooe-third of the heb lomadal council should
be elected by a body of 24, 3,1,1 alut her third by another
body of not more than 29 or 30 tersonv. He thought,
thete6ire, that the Pelleint3 of the light lion gentleman w:0;
a much more `• oligarch.d" one than that proposed by the
House of LordA. (Hear.)

For the amendment of the Lords •• - 110
Fur the amendment of 11r. It. Palmer... 68'
Majority for the Lords' ainewbuent... —43
Several atnendlnenta were then agreed to without obs r•
vatien, and on the 4.2.1 clause being
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER 'aid an
amoutluvint haaboen introduced iu this ulan+e by the lion.,
of Lunt*, apparently under a misapprehension. It Wil,ittu-
addition of the words " iu respect of prii ate halls," which,
ormotins of that amendment, w re pittcod in .a position
analoc;ou4 tq that of the hehrlomad..l council of the congre-
gation. They had provided by the clause in question, no,
that the exi;teuce of these lr.lts should be done away with,
hut that the detads should be altered by the consent of th-•
Crown they had lett it to the tint versity to rept to atm
modify theiu. It tras plain that the amendment of th.
Lords whiell he believe otrod Ilee. I per incuriam
was an interference with the fun Vonent.tl principle of th
hill, awl he therefore moved the owissiuu of that amend-
ment.

Mr. HENLEY sail that the plan of sectional election Mr. WALPOLE said that power was given by elapse 42
hail been proposed by his righthon. friend, on the re-
/
to alter clause 27 so far as related to the establishment of
jection . f election. by the convocation, as a better alterna-
private balls. But. let them look at the limitation of that
tive than election by the congregation.
(He„ r.) He powerb.o
aTlttaerdubley atiniethgt:irviselinugingthie,oirweerstfiertl
histehuinn"ivterus7tlyd;l
wished to take Oil opportunity of alluding to a statementonly
which had been made in another piece, so utterly un- and
utcteonpv.oziaettilotib_yhthaati tthebotTyw.erlftotshteopsytahteemfoorcfe
porif
vaantse-
female,' that he confessed that he had heard it made with
very great surprise. He referred to the statement that halls failed—and it must be admitted that at present they
there had been an arrangement among the heads of houses could be considered only au experiment in their establish-
that they should be elected by seniority. He had made it meat—then it was a good provision to give this power of
alteration, subject to the veto of convociation, as thus, iu
his business to inquire into the matter, and be was enabled
to state that the subject had not even been mooted. case of their failure, a remedy existed. He asked the house
(Hear, bear.) to agree with the clause as it at present stool.
Sir W. HEATEICOTE opposed the motion, for he The SOLIC tTo Et-GENERAL said th it to bestow this
thought it wound be exeeeding y injurious for the members power would be to give an absolute reversion to that priu-
of the council to be reg eeieil as mere deputies from the ciple which it was'the great ortject of the bill to obtain.
different constituent ()cellos. The original object of the That object was to extend a system of private halls in the
clause was solely to secure a somewhat different qtedifica- university; and lee was sure it was not the intention of the
tion in the m.-where of the council. He thought that house to sanction an enactment repugneut to their conga-
the congregatiou would be a fair epitome of the univer- totem.- This bill was framed upon the report of a coil:-
city. (Hear.) . tuittee of that house, which had recommended the We)-
.
Mr. HEY WOOD hid vatted for sectional election ; but
lishment of private hells.
Mr. W
since then two clauses had been adopted which would have•
NE D el opposed
ESOAT the preposition of the
the effect of throe jug open the university to the country. right hon. gentlemen opposite. As had been before re-
el-intent, and the Lords, viewing it in this light, ha l so
He should, therefore, vote for the amendment, because he marked, the establishuieut of private halls was but, an ex-
thought that. Oxford would now be so far accessible to P
public opinion that the congregation would elect proper iegieeited. They outild not expect the House of Lords to
persons, pass the bill with the omission of this most material por-
Mr. WIGRAM opposed the amendment, on the ground tion of it. • •
that sectional election hail been recom:newled by the Ox- Mr. HENLEY said so 'far ache could construe the mean-
fertl Tutors' Ass icietiou, by the authorities of Cambridge, ing of the clause, the power was absolutely necessary : the ,
and by the commissiosers on the latter university. He
30th clause gave power to the governing body to make re
thought it desirable that the members of the council should gulations : the 4lst clause enabled them to alter those re-
be chosen by different bodies. If the mienbers of the gulation from time to time; the 3eth gave a controlling
house were elected by the same constituency there would mower to convocation, while the 4sel, as it stood would give
the power of repeal,
no &net be a great deal wore unanimity amongst them, subject to the control of the Q leen i
but neither their debates nor their decisions would be so' C"uu6i. Ha should therefore op, the ' u
ose proposition.
satisfactory. (Hear, hear.) • (Crietiof " divide.")
Mr. NEWDEGA rE said the Bishop of Oxford hail Lord J. RUSiELL said that he considered that the par-
statthl that a great number of the writers ior the periodical ties who made the regulations for the establishment of
press were residents at Oxford, and that fact quite cc- private halls would still have the
power to repeal or alter
counted tor the beedomecial boatel having been so much theta'
run down by the press. The (reject of the amendment was The question, that the house
disagree
with the Lords'
tie eliminate
every vestige of the corporate capacity of the amendments to cause 42 was then
lint. The house
heads of houses, who had for so many hundreds of years divided—
governed the university. The Bishop of Oxford could • - Ayes .............. • 130
bear no rival, and therefore he congratulated himself on ' Noes ....... e ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
70
the successful manner io which his allies in the public . 41 v
.. • Mason or the 'notion —6O
press heti vilified the hebdomadal beard. The. noble lord The other a metultne
was a disappoiuted man, said in him the dirt t . • eta having been agreed to, a commit.
ente 1 tea was appointed ce with the L eels. spirits of the university had fir I cut'
' to conduct a conference
uni a supporter It was SUPPLY,—THE BISHOP OF NEW ZEALAND.
the voice of these discontents that h ...
e represented, and it
was for their sake, and not that of the majority of the On the motion that the house resolve itself into a coin-
university, that the noble lord was induced to propose anti mitten of supply; -
curry this atnewlineat. (Hear.) It was among the. resi- Sir J. PAKINGTON moved that this house will, to-
dents of
,Oxford that Tracturiauism first had its origin, morrow, resolve into a.cournittee to consider the following
.arid the effect oh this etnetehnent would be to increase the
resolution, viz.: —`• Thee an humble address. be presented
pourer and influence of those residents. There coati he be to her Hajesty, Praying that she may be graciously pleased
to give dirputsons- that the 0-dery of 64/1. heretofore voted
doubt that it would give an impetus to Tracterianism,
annually to ti•e Lent Bishop of 'New Zeeland shall be paid
from which the tuajotity of the university dissented.
The ainendineut, in feet, would bawl over the Church of for the years 1e53 anti 1854 ; and assuring her Majesty that
Englund, bound hand and foot, to. the fostering care of this house will make good the saute." lie presumed that
those who wore her enemies in disguise, and he did sin- it wits by a mistake or an oversight that the, salary of the
cerely hope the house would not agree to it (Hear.) lord bishop hie been discontinued without any notice what-
The house then divided, when therteappeereds— ever having been given of the intention of the Govern-
ment.
For the Lords' amendment ll5 •
. Against it Airs W. WILLI A.MS • 1 that the last year the salary
62-53 - sae
The amendment was accordingl agreed to.
was granted t.
-1 the house it was upon the dietitict under-
y
again make its appearance in
atamiing that' it should never
Mr.. WIGRAM proposed to disagree to the Lords' the
estimates,
e
amendments to clause 15. This clause provided that the After- Sir T. D. ACLAND in
Vice-Chancellor should make out a register of convocation, sortie observations from
and the amenihnents which the Lords had • wale would support of the motion,
Sir G.
ex to the effect
make this register " conclusive," mo Vert if a name was GREY entered into some
accidentally left out of it, the party weal have no reeress. that a communication had been sent to the g mentor, and
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER saw no yea should the salary not. be paid by the colony, be thought
son for not agreeing to the ameniimebts. NO doubt the tiie bishop would have a claim On this country for the
clause would impose some trouble upon the Vice-Chancel- salary for those two years. He should therefore support
lor, hut he would have ample time and means fur making time m
Be his register correct; r' Be PA.LMER did not think the colony was called
The amendment was then agreed
to. upon to pay. He was of opinion that the honour and
On clause 31, which as ametele.l by the Lords provides g`Nal faith of the British Parliament was pledged to the
for the "consolidation and coeversion of fellowships' only, payment of the salary.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed to Mr. HADFIELD opposed the motion.
Sir J
enlarge the power of the clanse by varying its phraseology f • PAKINGTON said that after what had fallen
h tter iu th h 1
e ate s
so as to snake it embrace all descriptioes of fellowships and from Sir G. Grey, die should leave t e ma_
scholarships, whether attached to schools or otherwise, as of the Government.
well as "emoluments" of all denominations. - The motion was then withdrawn.
This amendment was adopted, and the Lords' arnend• COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
ments so enlarged were agreed to. The first vote posed was 140,0J01. for the purchase of
pro
Mr. ROUNDELL PALMER moved, "That the house Burlington House.
do disagree to all the Lords' amendments to clause 34, ex- err. SPOONEII. said that up to the present moment the
cept the addition of the words 'or extentled,' in lines 40 house hail received no information as to o hat was to bo done
and 41, page 10, and the words 'or elai 111 all t,' in line 42, with the purchase-of land at Kensington, mind they ought,
page 10." Tne effect of this motion would be to restore the therefore, to pause in granting this additional sow of
clause as it stood when it was sent up to the Lords, and to mon y for the purchase of Burlington House until they
exempt the college emoluments of foundation schools from had had Rome specific &mutanti estimates laid before them.
the operation of the bill. The largest power was given by The sum voted for the Kensington estate (200,0001.),' and
the clause as passed in the House of Commons to do every- !he 140,0001. now proposed, were merely for the Purchase
thing short of abolition of the emoluments. He admitted of the sites; and the house was in utter ignorance with
that it was an evil fir a persoh to acquire a fellowship on regard to their expenses which hail been incurred in
which be might, melee all circumstances, depend for life ; building on those sites. When last the subject was dis-
but the evil might be guarded :realest by various arrange. cussed the Chancellor of the Exchequer, or the Secretary
mints. However the fact mega he disguised, the clause, to tlietTreasury, stated that the cheapest way of dealing
as it stood, was. in the case of New Gave, a dimple with Burlington- House was to pull it down So that,
alienation, and this, too, when most or the atoms which according to this suggestion, the nation was about to p.y
had been compleined of hail beau reformed. Whether the the sumo 140,000/, merely for the space upon which the
house supported him or not, he should have the satisfac. house stood, awl the old:materials, (Hear, hear.) With
tion of ft sling that he had done his best to prevent. an act the example they frail before them in the building in which
of injustice.: . 'they were then assembled, the first estimate for the erec-
Atter a few words from Mr. PRICE, ' i tiuq of which- was 700,1!001., whereas 2,500,0001. had been
Mr. HENLEY was very glad his hon. and learned friend 7 expended, whilst it was a very great way from being
hail again given the house
an opportunity of recordieg its u finished, he did think the hougeought to be careful and can.
seutiments with regard to this clause. (Hear, hear.) It Cousin what they did, and Lot incur further expenditute,
was en extraordinary thing that an hereditary peeragn Unless some satisfactory explanation were given, he
should have disregarded el 'of 30.1 years etanding, and ebituld take the sense of the committee agtiorit the
acted simply on .. . aims . .
the princ;ple deNr (Ironton. P. it con.' Tote., • (Hear, hear.) .
tinned to s'
retain its privileges.' (Laughter.)*. Whatever might- be
cliti.th. ' the sitnatiou of Burlington House:melee most be-
leW 4 t'4l'Woulia P:itgrelool4o* be. Vaiettligo4-04 coat mi for Ala+ of rt .ilie.A4. molar'
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