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If so the price paid for the ground would be at the rate of Sir T. AC LAND thought :a earn of 3,0001. would
He should like
s'i:'lettbleoe7prtnetls.was meant to no-
abent 51,0001. an aria. He protested against the pu:)lic
ts,cjakreneolwy.shuoffiwciintyfopraotileiruti
being called on to pay for accommodation Li private
commodate.
sir societies.
W. MOLES WORTH said the estimate was for 40
patients, which would went all proper requirements.
Mr. LAYARD wished to know whether the hospital
would be of stone or wood ?
Lord J. RUSSELL believed the building to be erected
would be of stone ; and he should communicate with his
noble friend the Secretary for Foreign Affairs relative to
its being commenced at once.
The vote was then agreed tp, and the house resumed.
The Chancery Amendment Bill was read a third time.
THE METROPOLITAN SEWERS BILL.
Lord SEYMOUR objected to going into committee on
this bill at that late hour. He would recommend to the
noble lord (Lord Palmerston) to postpone it to an occasion
when it could receive proper consideration.
Sir J. PABINGTON moved the adjournment of the
debate.
Lord PALMERSTON hoped, if the house would not
consent to go into committee to-night, it would certainly
do so to-morrow evening.
The bill was accordingly postponed.
The Cinque Ports Bill was then committed pro forma.
The Marriages (Mexico) Bill was read a second time, as
was also the Acknowledgment of Deeds by Married
Women Bill.
BENEFICES AUGMENTATION BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT SECURITIES BILL.
Mr. WILKINSON objected to going on with a bill of
such importance at that hour (it was 20 minutes to two
o'clock). He moved that the chairman report progress.
Sir J. PABINGTON said the house had got into its
present difficulty in consequence of the Government hav-
ing gone on with the committee of supply after one o'clock.
He believed that the noble lord the member for Maryle-
bone had good reason to complain of the manner in which
he had been treated ; the progress of the measure had been
alreaey stayed, in order that the opinions of the law offi-
cers of the crown might be had on it, and now, when both
those gentlemen were present, the house was precluded
from going on with the bill, in consequence of the way in
which business had been conducted that evening.
Mr. WILSON would remind the right hon, baronet
that if no discussion had arisen on going into committee of
supply the bill would have come on earlier.
air. I. BUTT thought his noble friend ought most surely
divide the house on the motion to report progress, unless
he received an assurance that a day would be fixed by the
Government on'whichlhe bill would be proceeded with.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL. said it was absolutely
necessary that some important amendments should be made
in the bill, stud he promised that if the bill were postponed
until Tuesday or Wednesday next, he would bring forward
some amendments which, without pledging himself to sup
port the bill—(laughter)—he would undertake to say were
such as would greatly improve its character.
Mr I: BUTT must say the hon. and learned gentleman
I ought to have made up his mind as to whether he intended
or not to support the bill. He would ask the house was it
proper the S elicitor-General should come down to the
house, and tell them he had not made up his mind as to
the course he should pursue in reference to a measure that
had bean described by so eminent an authority as the noble
lord the Secretary for the Home Department as involving
the honour of the country, and, as attracting the attent.ou
of all Europe. He must say the house and the country had
a right to demand that some definite course should be pur-
sued with respect to the bill.
Mr. T. HANK EY, as one of the minority, was most
anxious that the bill should be properly discussed, and
joined in recommending the postponement of the bill.
Mr. HENLEY thought that Wednesday next would be
a very convenient occasion for discussing the subject,
were it not that there was some uncertainty as to the
presence of the law officers of the Crown on that day.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL got up to state he, at all
events, would undertake to be present on Wednesday
next, when he was interrupted by
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL, who, amid the laughter
of the house, proceeded testate the bill was prepared with
a moat laudable disregard for everything that ought to be
attended to in its composition—(laughter) -and he was
therefore anxious that a delay should take place in the
progress of the measure, in order that the defects in so
notable a performance should be rendered less glaring. He
could assure the house the bill bad been framed with a
perfect neglect of all British mercantile interests, and of
our dealings with neutral nations. (Cheers) The hon.
and learned gentleman then entered, at some length, into
the van us merits of the bill, and to describe the nature
of the amendments be proposed to introduce.
A discussion then ensued, in which several hon. gentle.
men took part, and a great deal of warmth of feeling was
displayed, which was cut short by
Lard PALIIERSTON appealing to the house to consent
to the bill being postponed until Wednesday next, which,
after an assurance on the part of the Attorney General
that he should be present on that day, was at length
agreed to.
The second reading of the Bleaching Halls, &0., Bill
also (after a great deal of discussion) was postponed until
to-morrow evening (this day), and
The house then adjourned at five minutes before three
o'clock.

P

ins UTT3N LDR of the 17,XC1- EQ7EII.-iillTe was
-Zer‘sinly 'eurpriselt in' hear the right hon. gentleman (Mr.
Henley), who adhered with great tenacity to fioeie of the
smaller institutions of the couutry--(laughter)—speaking
as he had done of the House of Lords. (Lang'ater.) He
ventured to say that the. House of Lords bad by their con-
duct on that question done everything to weaken, and no-
thing to strengthen themselves. The amendment which
0,; they had set down was an amendment not in favour of
,plunder and robbery, as the right hon. gentleman sup-
posed, but an amendment in favour of moral and intellec-
teal excellence as against ignorance and abuse. (Hear.)
What the House of Lords had done was to give to com-
petent parties the power of considering on larger and inot7
general grounds than the Corporation of Abingdon wow,'
consider, whetherit were desirable or not that certain Pn:
vileges should be- continued. (Hear, hear.) He trusted
that that house would not set itself against the House
in
f
voted Lords in a case in which the House of Lords had
favour of large and general interests, and in which all
that
could be said in favour of the opposite interests was that
they were those of kindly, personal, and local feelings.
Sir W. HEATHCOTE thought his right hon. friend had
shown on that occasion the eagerness of a partisan. In
'eying that the parties interestedought to be contented
with an impartial tribunal, his right hon. friend assumed
the point is dispute, namely, that there was something
which ought to be referred to this tribunal. It was use-
less to enter on the question of more or less, when the
whole thing was an invasion.
It was no answer to say
Prevent something that
that thine schools interposed to vent
might be better. If so, what was the use of establishing
any school at all ?
r. G. VERNON said he had been of opinion in the
first instance, that the legislature had no right to inter-
-. fere with the Various. schools; but the Government had
been beaten on the question. He thought that the rights
of the schools were sufficiently maintained by leaving them
their scholarships. The good of the university must also
be looked to in the question of fellowship. He looked I
with pleasure, to the selection that had been made of corn-
miesiceers, and•wthi confident- they would discharge their
duties uprightly. The Chancellor of the Exchequer was
in error as ,to-the Westminster scholars being entitled to
• fellowships in,Trinity College, Cambridge '• it was merely
scholarships in .which they had had a right.
- Sir J. ?ARINGTON' twitted the last speaker with
having voted, differently on two former occasions on this
qttestion, and called on him to point out the difference in
principle between a scholarship and a fellowship. The
justification set up by the Chancellor of the Exchequer
for the course pursued by the House of Lords was utterly
inconsistenCwith the sentiments he had expressed four
years, ago. He (Sir John) looked upon this as nothing
leis than unjustifiable- spoliation ; and he was fortified in
this opinion by that of the right hon. gentleman himself.
- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—You have
no right to say that I published a corrected report of the
speechl you refer to, win& differs' materially from the
ordinary reports.
-Sir j...PA-KINGTON referred to the report in Hansard,
which made Mr. Gladstone say that neither the House of
Commons nor the Crown 'would. assume a jurisdiction to
remove those restraints.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER--Hear,
hear, Neither the House of Commons nor the Crown.
Sir 'J. PAKLNGTON said the right hon. gentleman
was certainly thankful for small mercies if he rested on
that distinction. In the speech referred to he protested
against examination as a test of fitness, and argued that
the scholarships and fellowships ought not to be thrown
open. Now, he talked of " intellectual excellence,"
and how would that be ascertained but by examination?
That very morning the house had before it a question
as to the intentions of a founder; and the right hon.
gentleman spoke warmly in support of those inten-
tions being respected - let him apply that principle to
the case before the house. There were certain schools
in Worcestershire connected with Worcester College ;
and it would be a great injustice to those schools
to take away the fellowships. He could not but regret the
course of the Government; their object appeared to be to
induce the house to stultify itself. On two previous occa
sions the house had decided in favour of this priucipie, by
large majorities in crowded houses—not in such a thin house
as could be got together at the end of July.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, the house would recollect that
the last time this question was debated there had been only
a majority of 10 in favour of the proposition of the hon and
learned gentleman, so that if the house came to a different
decision now, they would not be reversing the decision of a
large majority. The right hon. gentleman opposite had
charged his right hon. friend the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer with saying that "neither the Houseof Commons nor
the Crown could assume the jurisdiction to remove these
restraints. His right hon friend said the same thing now.
What he and what the Government said was, that neither
the House of Commons nor the Crown could do so; but
that the whole body of Queen, Lords, and Commons could
give its assent to those alterations. (Hear, and a laugh.)
Their argument was that the founders of these institutions
- intended that they should be for the promotion of religion
and learning, rather than a hindrance to it. It appeared to
bim that if they meant to give a preference to fitness they
could not adopt the proposal of the right hon. gentleman
opposite. It was clear that if the number was limited, it
would only moderate the degree of competency and lower
the standard of education.
The house then divided—
For the amendment of the Lords llO
For the amendment of Mr. R. Palmer 6B
Majority for the Lords' amendment —42
Several amendments were then agreed to without obser-
vation, and on the 42d clause being read,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said an
amendment had been introduced inthis clause by the House
of. Lords, apparently under a misapprehension. It was the
addition of the words " in respect of private halls," which,
by means of that amendment, w.-re placed in a position
analogous to that of the hebdomadal council of the congre-
gation. They had provided by the clause in question, not
that the existence of these halls should be done away with,
but that the details should be altered by the consent of the
Crown - they had left it to the university to regulte and
modify them. It was plain that the amendment of the
Lords, which he believed had been introduced per incuriam
was an interference with the fundamental principle of the
bill, and he therefore moved the omission of that amend-
ment.
Mr. WALPOLE said that power was given by clause 42
to alter clause 27 so far as related to the establishment 01
private halls. But let them look at the limitation of that
power. The rule authorising their establishment could
only be altered by the governing power of the university;
and convocation had the power to stop the force of any
statute passed by that body. If the system of private
halls failed—and it must be admitted that at present they
could be considered only an experiment in their establish-
ment—then it was a good provision to give this power of
alteration, subject to the veto of convocation, as thus, in
case of their failure, a remedy existed. He asked the house
to agree with the clause as it at present stood.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that to bestow this
power would be to give an absolute reversion to that prin-
ciple which it was the great object of the bill to obtain.
That object was to extend a system of private halls in the
university; and he was sure it was not the intention of the
house to sanction an enactment repugnant to their consti-
tution. This bill was framed upon the report of a com-
mittee of that house, which had recommended the estab-
lishment of private halls.
Mr. NEWDEGATE opposed the proposition of the
right hon. gentleman opposite. As had been before re-
marked, the establishment of private halls was but an ex-
periment, and the Lords, viewing it in this light, had so
legislated. They could not expect the House of Lords to
pass the bill with the omission of this most material por-
tion of it.
Mr. HENLEY said so far ashe could construe the mean-
ing of the clause, the power was absolutely necessary : the
30th clause gave power to the governing body to make re-
gulations ; the 41st clause enabled them to alter those re-
gulation from time to time; the 39th gave a controlling
power to convocation, while the 4ed, as it stood would give
the power of repeal, subject to the control of the Queen in
Council. He should therefore oppose the proposition.
(Cries of " divide.")
Lord J. RUSSELL said that be considered that the par-
ties who made the regulations for the establishment of
private halls would still have the power to repeal or alter
them.
The question, that the house disagree with the Lords'
amendments to clause 42 was then put. The house
divided—

Mr. M. MILNES believed, from all ho could learn,
that the estitnare was an extremely economical one. He
had been told that other parties had offered even a larger
sum than the vote. One rumour was that an intention
existed of buying the ground for a large Roman Catholic
cathedral. (Laughter.)
Mr. BANKES said that one reason why he objected to
the grant was, that he had been told that that beautiful
structure, Burlington House, would be pulled down,
which, in his opinion, was to be regretted, as it would be
one of the greatest ornaments to the metropolis if it could
only be seen. He thought that private societies could
build much cheaper for themselves if left to their own
1 resources.
Mr. HEYWOOD said that the presidents of the dif-
ferent scientific societies had had a meeting the other day,
and had all agreed that the purchase was desirahe, and
was obliged to the Government for proposing to buy it-
Those societies had a fair claim on the Government for a
location, as some of them had originally been provided
with rooms in our public buildings.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not
well understand the arguments made use of by the hon.
member for Dorsetshire. That hon. gentleman stated that
his objection to this vote would be either withdrawn or
greatly modified if it were proposed to pull down the wall
in front of Burlington-house ; and, having made that state-
ment, he proceeded to say that, at the present time, it vas
absolutely necessary, on account of the war, to refrain
from applying to Parliament for money to be expended for
a purpose not absolutely necessary. He could not ruder
stand how those two arguments could hang together, nor
could he admit that either was tenable. The proposition
for pulling down the wall, and so opening the view to
Burlington-house, was a proposition not to be endured—
(" Oh, oh !")—that was to say, not to be endured by those
who were intrusted with the management of the public
resources at the present time ; and, on the other hand,
he protested against the doctrine, that the country was so
reduced in means that no money could be voted except for
purposes of what might be called aim Outs necessity. With
respect to the acquisition of three acres and a half of land
at a price which every one must admit was by no means
extrav gent, in the very heart of London, in a most com-
manding situation, in a great thoroughfare, he will lzhnly
say that if the opportunity were allowed to pass it might
be many generations before such another occurred, and
in the 40 or 50 years which might elapse before such
an opportunity occurred in what way could the public
demands for space be met ? With regard to the statement
that scientific societies could furnish themselves with room
at a cheaper rate than the Government could provide
it for them, he must say that he could not agree to
to that statement; because, if they were provided with
space in any Government building, other parts of the
building, which would be uselees to them, could be
turned to account by theGoverninent. The difficulty which
those societies met with in obtaining accommodation
was the difficulty of procuring a large room for their meet-
ings, but if they were provided with space by the public,
one large room would be sufficient to answer the require-
ments of all. The hon. member for Lambeth bad spoken
of the vacant space in Downing-street; but that site was
wanted for other purposes. The position of the great State
offices in Downing-street wee abso'ntely disgraceful. Some
of them were even dangerous, and others inconvenient in
the highest degree, and it had become a matter of neces-
sity that they should think of an alteration and enlarge-
ment of those offices on a great scale. For such purposes
the vacant space in Downing-street would naturally be
required. To treneer any of the great offices of State
to Burlington-house would be altogether inconvenient,
and it was important they should all be centred
in the neighbourhood of Downing-street. But for
commissioners' offices and establishments of that kind
Burlington-house would be found exceedingly convenient,
and he therefore thought that for such purposes the pro-
posed arrangement was an excellent one. He hoped, there-
fore, that the present question would not be mixes! up
with the one about Kensington, or in any way confounded
with the question of the National Gallery, which hail been
discussed and settled, as was understood, conclusively, in
the course of last session. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. DISRAELI said there could be no doubt of the
soundness of the statement made by the right hon. gentle-
man' that nothing could be more valuable or rather invalu-
able to the Government of this country than those spaces
of ground that from time to time might be procured in the
metropolis. But, before he adverted to that subject, he
would venture to make a remark on one or two ob-ervations
that had fallen from hon.gentlerceu opposite. The hon. mem-
ber for Lambeth had commented on the propriety of some
alterations in Somerset-house for which he (Mr. Disraeli)
was responsible, and in some measure approved of what bad
taken place_ He was quite prepared to show, if it was
necessary to go into the question, that those alterations
were all for the convenience of the public service, as well
as economical in so far as regarded the public expenditure,
and that, in so far as the management of the Duchy of
Cornwall was concerned, the alterations were unquestion-
ably all in favour of the public. (Hear.) So far, indeed,
from there being anything like a suspicion of what was
called "a job" in this matter, the Duchy of Cornwall would
have been perfectly s ttisfied to remain in their old quarters.
(Hear, hear.) The hon. and gallant member for Bath had
made one of those, he might say, habitual attacks on pur-
chases that were so common in that house, and found fault
with the purchase of Kensington-gore on account of its
expense. He stated that 200,0001. had been paid fur
20 acres of land, whereas the fact was that it was not
20 but 90 acres of land that were purchased (hear,
hear)—and, therefore, when the hon. member for Bath
wished to establish his reputation for economy and made
his attacks on these purchases, he ought to be more statis-
tically correct in his figures. He could not agree with the
gallant captain, that the site of Burlington-house was emi-
nently qualified for a National Gallery. (Hear, hear.)
Before they determined what was a good site for &National
Gallery. they should come to a conclusion as to what sins
meant by a National Gallery. He thought the present Na-
tional Gallery 'was the greatest disgrace thatexisted in this
country, and he would much sooner there was no institution
bearing the name than that the small collection in the pre-
sent institution should be where it now was in this metro-
polis. (Hear, hear.) In his mind, the site of Kensing-
ton, which had been recommended by a committee
of that house, was not too small for a National Gallery, a
great palace of art, worthy of this nation, and he earnestly
hoped no attempt would again be made to raise a National
Gallery, such as a National Gallery ought to be, unless
they attempted to do something really worthy of the coun-
try and the subject. (Hear, bear.) There was nothing on
this question so important as that which the Chancelior of
the Exchequer had so strongly impressed on the house, of
every existing Government seizing upon every opportunity
that presented itself of purchasing such spaces of ground
in the metropolis as might be thrown upon the market.
It was absolutely necessary to avail themselves of these
opportunities of promoting the public service, and that in
no niggardly spirit. (Hear, hear) It was of the utmost
importance that they should have more accommodation for
the public offices, and it was hardly less important that
the public servants should be as much as possible brought
together by the contiguity of the offices in which they were
placed. Indeed, contiguity was, to a certain degree, as
valuable as additional space (Hear; hear.) For these
reasons, if the Government recommended the purchase of
those 3. acres of ground in Burlington-house, he would
be prepared to support them. But there was one point
on which he wanted some information. He was himself
so impressed with these feelings when in office that when
a distinguished nobleman who held a Crown lease which
was about to cease, wished to have that lease renewed,
the Board of Treasury, of which he was a member, refused
the renewal. (Hear, hear.) Application was made to have
the lease of Montague-her:Lee renewed by the Duke of Buc-
clench, a nobleman who was respected by every member of
that house ; but it appeared to the Treasury that the
claims of the public service were so paramount that they
were not at liberty to renew the lease. On that occasion he
felt it his duty, remembering that Montague-house stood
next to the Treasury, to retain the site for the use of the
public ; but no sooner was he out of office than.that deci-
sion of the Board of Treasury wig rescinded, and the lease
of Montague-house was renewed to the same distinguished
nobleman he had already referred to. (Hear, hear.) Now,
he could not reconcile the rescinding of that resolution and
the renewal of the lease with the stateiiient of the public
necessities so strongly expressed by the Chancellor of the
Exchequer—(hear, hear)—though he was, at the same time,
prepared to support the Government in the proposed pur-
chase of Burlington-house. (Hear, hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
the subject referred to by the right hon. gentleman had
not for some time been before him. He would not now go
into details ; but he thought that the right hon. gentleman
was quite right in calling the attention of the committee
to the transaction, because he (the Chancellor of the
Exchequer) was distinctly of opinion that an error had
been committed in the renewal of the lease of Montague
House. (Hear, hear.) With respect to the time at which
or persons by whom this transaction took place, he should
rather not say anything at present ; because it would be
much mere satisfactory to produce the documentary evi-
dence relating to it which was in existence than to enter
into any statement at this moment. He, therefore, hoped
that the committee would allow it to stand over until ho
ooked up the papers, which he would do iminediately, with
view of placing them before the house. (Hear.)
The committee then divided—
For the vote 143
Against it
Mejority —l2o
A. vote of 10,0001. for the pirpose of defraying tiee
expellees -of erecting new consular officei, a British sea-
man's hospital, and a prison, at Constantinople, having
been proposed,
Lord D. STUART objected to the form in which the
vote had been placed upon the estimates, inasmuch as no
information was afforded as to what amount of money was
to be expended under each of the heads to which the vote
was to be applied. So far as the item relating to the hos-
pital was concerned, he could only say that nothing could
be more necessary than the erection of such a building.
A. medical officer, residieg at Consta tinople, heel borne
teatirmilY to the inadequate provision at present made
in that
Vital for the relief of such of our seamen a
mightikoattacked by illness. Thegentleman to whom he
small ; that it
referred stated that the present hospitel was much too
separation between th
description • that '
was impregnated with filth of every
it sefordeii no means of eff sting a
lions diseases, and ose
w
bad in 'quality ; that there insufneie'
who were affiicted with infec-
provided for the sick
kept in the hospital, with r
those‘ who were not; that the diet
t in quantity and
ami, in short, those unfortunatewas no surgical apparatus
the exception of a few splints;
there while suffering underseParet!
Such WWI
eiits who were placed
small chance of recovery,
the. accominoilation
illness had but a very
that wits provided for our poor.
(Loud D. Stuart) h vine himselfrherchant seamen ; and he
bound to say that the description seen the hospital, was
medi-
cal officer whose statement he had just of it by the
exceeded reality. Notwithstanding,hquoted by no means
of the accommodation, those who
sreo;vever, the nature
rc
inmates of the hospital in question
weroealli to become
out of their wages sums which, regard being ged to pay
character of the relief which they received,
were en
to the
e
He had been requested by residents at Constantlinoopleons.
to
bring the subject under the notice of Parliament; and
on
his mentioning his intention to Lord Stratford, that dis-
tinguished diplomatist, who, he might state, had sub-
scribed from his private resources in the most munificent
manner for the establishment of an hospital, said, "I hope
von will do so, for we shall then have an hospital fit for
'our wantf.." He hoped, therefore, the right hon. gentle.
man would furnish some explanation as to the details of
the vote.

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130
70
-60

Ayes
Noes
Majority for the motion..
The other amendments having been agreed to, a commit.
tee was appointed to conduct a conference with the Lords,
SUPPLY.—THE BISHOP OF NEW ZEALAND.
On the motion that the house resolve itself into a com-
mittee of supply,
Sir J. PAKINGTON moved that this house will, to-
morrow, resolve into a committee to consider the following
resolution, viz.:—" That an humble address be presented
to her Majesty,, praying that she may be graciously pleased
to give directions that the salary of 600/. heretofore voted
annually. to the Lord Bishop of New Zealand shall be paid
for the years 18143 and 1854; and assuring her Majesty that
this how will make good the same." He presumed that
it,iyaa by, a mistake or an oversight that the salary of the
A'r,l.biKlappliad been diagontinued. without any notice what-
evechavin& been givea og, Ws: intention of the Govern-
Meant., •
'IL MS said that:the
wis granted house it wa last year the salary
by;the a
a upon r
standinethat it should neveagainthe distinct under- ;
make its appearance in,
the estimates.
Sir T
After some cbservsaions from
support of the metion, D. ACLAND in
. Sif G. GREY entered into some explanations to the effect
that a communication had been sent to the governor, and
ought
should the Salary not be paid by the colong
the bishop would have a claim on this country for the
salary for those two years. He should therefore support
the motion.
Mr. R. PALMER did not think the colony was called
upon to pay. He was of opinion that the honour and
good faith of the British Parliament was pledged to the
payment of the salary.
- Mr HADFIELD opposed the motion.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said that after what had fallen
from Sir G. Grey, he should leave the matter in the hands
of the Government. • •
The motion was then withdrawn.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
The first vote proposed was 140,0001. for the purchase of
Burlington House.
Mr. SPOONER.
ni
said that up to the present moment the
"house
o niormation as to what was to be done
witi ithhem ruerecliayseti e of
land at Ken
this gtoantidaintido
at ha el ysouumgh(t,
f,
therefore, to pause in
granting
mon 'y for the purchase of Burlington House until they
had had some specific plans and estimates laid before them.
The sum voted for the Kensington estate(2ooth,e purchase
of the 140,0001. now proposed, were merely for
of the sites, and the house
.vas in utter ignorance with
which had been incurred in
regard to their expenses
ouilding on those sites. When
dis-
cussed, the Chancellor of the Exchequer ofvatyheoSfe,cireeatlainryg
to the Treasury, stated that the cheapest
with Burlington House was to pull it down. So that,
according to this suggestion, the nation was about to pay I
the sum of 140,0001. merely for the space upon which the
house stood, and the old materials, (Hear, hear.) With
the example they had before them in the building in -which
they were then assembled, the first estimate for the erec-
tion of which was 700,000/ , whereas 2,500,000/. had been
expended, whilst it was •from being'
a. very great way
finished, he did think the house ought to be careful and cau-
tious in what they (lid, and not incur further expenditure.
Unless some satisfactory explanation were given, he
should take the sense of the
vot,e„ (Hear, hear.) committee against the
Mr. W. WILLIAMS also
eke against the vote, show-
ing that the situation of Burlington Rouse was
a most in-
convenient one for public offices. If the
hon. member

sir W. MOLESWORTH said the object of the vote
was to supply defects in our consular and hospital esta-
blishments at Constantinople. The whole range of build-
ings would occupy two years in the erection, and of the
whole amount the sum of 3,400/. would be expended on