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/II 11'°1:78E OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.)
at fi 440
lock. nn ettaxcuLoa took his seat on the woolsack
1 4 ,o'c

CO COURTS.
1,?!4'• the motion of Lord BROUGHAM, certain returns
itivni ordered connected with the expenses of proceedings.
County Courts.

, E TRANSPORTATION.
Ure 41'1 GREY then rose to move, that an humble ad-
kalB. b, e Presented to her Majesty, praying that her
theja's'Y will be graciously pleased to give directions thater
leirvlrUgenients with respect to the punishment of i-
th etu sentenced to transportation, which were in force in
teiVrear 1852, may not be changed in such a manner as
t„ event the nttknate removal of such offenders from.
ncuntry until a full account of any contemplated a.'
." 61(in i A., ,
ttfo rt tue above arrangements shall have been laid
portre Parliament, and the Parliament have bad an op- '
vended
of considering the measures it may be. it%
x to adopt Previously to their being carried into
14. ecae3rion: . Re said he did not bring forward the motion
spirit of said
to the Government. The ques-
17e of secondary punishea t d ent never had, and he trus et
tZetr would be considered with any reference to party
thei:es• It was not his object by this motion to enable
ot t lordships to pronounce a judgment on the questionth t
it „ii:o4lBPortation, or to call upon them to say that
that IQ or should not be continued, but to ask
nuesti4ll address be presented to her Majesty, _r_ ee-
ls a, d e N her to command that no vital change shouldb
for two that that system of punishment which existedhrdadshis
and
thew? centuries in this country until their lordships
acquaintedp
*hit taro house of Parliament had been made °PPott4lue measuree Proposed to be adopted, and had an
bobie pity of pronouncing an opinion upon them. The
c‘enarl entered into a history of the policy of p
44 ' 'revernments on the subject of transportation,r
pre, elPressing
••ent Go, his surprise at the course taken by the
NArie ~, ~ eminent, said it was inconsistent with the
the sf,-,"ne law that while transportation remained on.e
Poit,•i',4te-book as the principal punishment, it was as i
tear, ~e 1 fact and in point of law to be repealed. Hear,
kf,s4.°lll Lord Campbell.) He begged to call attennd
l'illicce 'what had taken place within a few years, a
411(lina'de t.hought had a material bearing on the subject,
totn. eit more disrespectful to Parliament to ta. ke.the.
Itilie4e which the Government had adopted than it other
s4l,l.4_Might have been. Some years ago a measure was
Wie,':•ei hY the GOvernment by which transportation to
order ' oouth Wales was at once put an end to by an
llohi ill council He knew the difficulty to which ther
lielr.'')earl opposite was exposed by that measure. (Hear,
eiam,
t 1448 it was intended that the number of convicts a
_t_
easPerted should be continually increased ; but. an
that
";48 Moved in the House of Commons praying
bee -Jekty would not allow the number of convicts notd sported to be so increased, and that was carne
retialti the Government of Lord Melbourne. The house
led illens, therefore, declared that it was inexpedienthd
rerc9ntitme sending convicts abroad ; and they
during the o._ nce expressed any other opinion, although
haerernment of Lord John Russell various attempts
Itotieeen made to obtain a contrary opinion. from the
Illt that C1:11111110119 on the subject. No decision revers-
teeonlso"..cf
~..1,1.40 was ever adopted by the House of
'tee, '• xherefore, so far as the other
.house was
Ilona:tied, it remained on record as the opinion of that I,
tr;t that the ultimate removal of convicts sentencedto_e
oliot!E3Pertation from this country ought not b
housininued. Row was it with regard this
Feat ~11 In the Year 1846 It became necessarytottshatfbar
earrvi"lal?ge should be made in the arrangemen
IMd, 11_ into effect the sentence of transportation,
l'ehi I,—."'el, r Much consideration, the Government of
teiue 410 (Earl Grey) w a member decided upon coesre-
purp
of iiepttireolsvinres,, which) Were proposed. for . the
t.ettai s. these
le en a ng tete mode of effecting this punishment. As
a ers
Measures had been decided upon, P
tra.jieclegtheufull epl than of the views of papers
s'everial ae7t'were laid before Parliament,
die. note'rlsideration. InNow, although these measurre:.
IP oval of-eolll4
,_a•nY discontinuance of the ultimate
~"t was an e--•ter,frcen this country—on the contrary,see
'ellen(' to tarleelit•a4 Pert of the plan that convicts
be
re.-
Moved to a dißPortation should, as heretofore,
_ceontisniedeorfable alsat:rZlevasbefore their discharge—yet very
hziohle Peril cited in this and the other
and lee,
aallerit whet they were announced. A
v2llnMittee of steed friend (Lord Brougham) movedG a
;ernment their lordships's house, and the then. o-
ie),es . assented to its appointment. That committee
Ittui !gate the to
examined all the judges of Eng-
the itcePt one then recently appointed, and almost all
.kritlll;l3•"es of Scotland and Ireland. [Lord Brougham
e
Itz__, the criminal law judges.] They exaniinedt
who
li,r Btrates and governors of prisons—all persons
ti7e 4h_e greatest practical experience of the working t
4ae ,_w• After that examination the committee reported.
• s'at d " h all those 144,„,
,e tat nearly
Co's'-1 had agreed that the punishment
terrors
nid ~,0,
,_
05.
Ittlich 6 safely be abandoned: of. transportation
tefi, 1` !!(:) other punishment—death onlyThatPthe
reported further,
of '
deuce,
That committee d excepteu
elsewhere abroad,.
the etice, both from France an
eqsfetal effects producedh by the s
the end of t risofonenrilemntl,-
144,1 seem strongly ot esbow the necessity for con-
ef.tneig the present mode of transportation." They
the result of all their inquiries,
~..44titcl on to state,
he(Ear as
(Earl Grey) •ht say hero that the
l •
eh. rnittee was very numerouslym.ig attended—" that their
11%Onion was, that the punishment of transportation
_11.11:1 be retained. for serious offences; that such puni.sh-
ra. Should be carried into effect in some instances tm-
pitateettely, in others, at later periods ; that the first
eolgeB of pimishment, whether in this country or in the
haPlea, should be of a reformatory as well as of a pe-
ie4eharacter ; and that the later stages should, in all
Iti,t Lines, be carried into effect in the, colonies, the con-
qraiut g dr.that P
- "ein f urpoEle retained in the qualified re-
-1,048.,.0t0 which, under the then existent system of.trans-
pere n, men holding tickets of leave or conditional
eo„,,"'N were subject." Such was the opinion of the
Clruittee. No vote was come to upon the subject in
e thatuse, and for this reason, that it was understood
th, ',terMajesty's Government should carry into effect
het ',vie of that committee. The Government. did so
qe ~ 'at the same time, much valuable information was
tocilved from the colony, and upon that, and the.df -
e•,:ected by the committee, after very careful consi erats
sel4B. a scheme for the future management of consveicm.
hoeic,l'arla,tured. A full account of that scheme was
as
Ivtiti.-' "a various dispatches, which, almost as soon
l'a.,l",en, were laid upon the tables of both. houses
t. of
e,e'areent. It was only two years ago, in moving he
q,,s(Mtl reading of the Convicts' Prisons Bill,
. he (Earl
cipLY) had occasion to explain to their lordships the prin-
Nso,;Pld objects of the measures then decided upon. He
Nvizu, therefore, not weary the house by going over
eeet:,,lll,e, had so lately fully entered upon, but would.
1)144-" lahtself with reminding their lordships that this
that Ivas, with one modification, precisely the same as
of
thaetermined upon in the year 1846. The principle.
Ilnaiale) Plan was that the more severe portion of this.
liertat.Ment consequent upon the !sentence of
.trans
eolliit I°ll should be inflicted upon criminals in the
lkimarY, that they should be subjected to different
%tile of imPrisonment under the best schemes that
Rolle penis'36 devised, and that, after having under-
to Thhment of this kind, they should be removed e colofornies, being still placed in a state of modified
theJectiola some time It was at first intended that
Ivae'tehlleuld have conditional pardons, the effect of which
XeeptattiltheY would be free upon arriving at the
tcolony,this
INeetr, a,t they were restrained from returning o
ue h;.7' 4 was afterwards determined that they should
They Rte cut with tickets of leave only, by which means
Met were still kept under a certain degree of control.
t°ll,,,4aYlleaadsurse. he (Earl Grey) would take upon himself
12a areor Ince been in very successful operation. It
,neish,, ered both as a deterring and as a reformatory.
'eat, „‘"ent• • Now, he would submit to their lordships
4chem,„•-°llsidering the circumstances under which thatt
''''hka i" of Punishment was adopted, considering that i
41)-44tatilt(I)necilliiessful Operation, they ought not to have
fro of the ghtly and without a substitute, an essential
featlll this measure. The ultimate removal of convict.s
et,,-,..,eecritrY was an essential part of the plan, b?til
wing, and still more a reformatory punish-
t,,i;ll_g part4loere„tld that an involuntary exile was a
.deter-
Zen bee); wr Plan upon the authority of the evidence
_ the arouse e the committee. He knew he might be told,
treblyllt Waa told not long since, that this had been
ehan
Nviti) 'but leg e(/' b the recent discovery ofgold in Aug.
rued e"'Plete asto
e must confess that he heard that argument
4_ the f..,_,
.. instilment. In the first place, he d.e-
-,"3, wa, ,°:•r• Ihat the recent discoveries of gold had in
rim,7oeld •;._,,'eux!paired the efficacy of transportation. He
(I,es'rd to his noble and learned friend behind
. tte4e,seot
eireniCtsarnipilexT,ad who had stated that upon
ii, trans
found th punishment of
ii, \Earl qr as much dreaded as ever. Since
tken conlili eY) had given notice of this motion, it had
tegaen Priftnsu, 4thatet dtht:rehinl by
the chaplain of one of
that4Pertation s was no part of the sentence of
‘va. li, found
co much dreaded as the ultimate exile ;
IlisYte desirous of 'tichnji.etn mprisoned after sentence, al-
lied e 4 ; and that ing part of their sentence corn-
y_ throe in.,,_ even within the last few weeks he had
t'..un their lordships
of that kind. And upon considera-
Celd Lot -I"stdPe would see that the discovery of gold
41eesli.y,in foarffeeect
atheeoeqvuiee
tstion. Under the regulations
tr
_aa.ve waited a Period sentenced to transportation
to sYeu longer, before he of from 5 to 10 or 12 years,
could expect to be at liberty
~ieo to the di .
t‘L, goo
his _ gglngs.
.Even a seven
years' convict,
heeef da.y of his duct might have been exemplary from
,),
,ne°,nteinhset
icloVedegoonvtlocttihoen'gotusfitel
.1.: etetiville4 • 0f that
hdsa:ve waited 3i years
been spent in the
co aid they' belsie°l7pip ;teed3
1 years,
.t. ~,tia,:o , euother in the severe gloomy seclusion of
metomactbering what convicts were,
toll and labour of
• -111)°4 "Y Principle of de.