The Sun.
London, England, 1838-07-26 00:00:00

HOUSE OF LORDS.-(THIS DAY.)

Their Lordships sat in a Committee for Privileges to-day. The Peers
present were the Lord Chancellor, the Earl of Shaftesbury, Lord
Brougham, Lord Boston, Lord Skehnersdale, Lord Vaux, the Earl of
Fingal, and Lord Lovatt.
THE CAMOYS PEERAGE.

The evidence on behalf of the different claimants to this Peerage
having been closed on a former day, the further consideration was ap_
pointed for this morning, in order to afford the Attorney-General, on
behalf of the Crown, an opportunity of addressing their Lordships.

The ATTORNEY _GENERAL said that it now became his duty to ad.
dress to their Lordships such observations as suggested themselves to him
in the case of the Camoys Peerage. He had a disagreeable duty to per-
form, because persois were apt to think that the Attorney-General in
opposing these claims went beyond his duty, and raised objections that
he might pass by. He did not think, however, that such observations
could apply to him, because he had always, where there was a clear claim
to a peerage, frankly admitted it. In the \Valdegrave Peerage and the
North Peerage he had stated that he thought them abundantly
made out; and it would have given him great pleasure if he
could have come to a similar opinion in the present case,
which was attended with very great difficulties, which he
felt bound to call to the attention of their Lordships. In the present
case there were four claimants, not claiming adversely, but as co-heirs
of the Camoys barony. The first claimant was Mr. Stonor, the second
Mr. Le Strange Styleman, the third Sir Jacob Astley, and the fourth
Madame de la Cainea. All these persons claimed as the co.heirs of
Hugh Lord Camoys, who was said to have died without issue, in the
fourth year of the reign of Henry the Sixth. Mr. Strange Styleman
Sir Jacob Astley, and Madame de la Eainea, did not go higher in their
claim than Sir Thomas Camoys, who died in the 9th year of Henry V.
Mr. Stonor at first did not carry his claim to a greater extent ; but he
now went up to Ralph Lord Camoy's, who was summoned to Parlia-
ment in the 49th of Henry the Third, and if he made out his claim he
would of course rank above all the Barons of the realm, in the House
of Lords, as Ralph Lord Camoys was above the Lord De Roos, the
senior Baron of England. Besides thesif co-heirs there were other
persons who represented themselves to have similar claims. Among
them was Anthony George Wright, who had assumed the name
of Biddulph, and two ladies—Lady Zouch and Mrs. Pechell,
who were descended from Eleonora, who was descended from
the last Lord Camoys. The first point their Lordships had to de-
termine upon was the right to a supposed Peerage that had lain dor_
mant above four centuries. The last time that any person sat in Par.
liament as Lord Camoys, was in the 9th year of Henry the Fifth,
in 1423. In that year Sir Thomas Camoys died who was the only
person in the family who was proved to have sat in the House of
Lords. It was not alleged that any summons had been issued since
that time, and therefore the Peerage had been dormant 400 years.
He was quite aware, as the law now stood, that that was no bar to the
claim, but at the same time he felt bound to say, that it presented most
formidable difficulties, and raised a strong presumption against the va-
lidity of the claim. If the present Barony was descendible to heirs ge.
neral, what satisfactory reason could be given for the claim lying so long
in abeyance? Why should the times of the Plantagenets, the Tudors,
and others have been allowed to pass by, and the claim Not have been
put for.vard until the sixth Sovereign of the House of Hanover ?
It could not be said that religious motives prevented the claim being
made, because for a century after the Barony was in abeyance the
same religion prevailed in England. It was also to be remembered
that the families in which the Barony was vested were of great power
and distinction, the Radmyldes, the Lewknors, the Gorings, and the
Le Stranges ; and yet no claim was made. Now, the first considera-
tion for their Lordships was, did there ever exist a Barony of Camoys de-
scendible to heirs general. He admitted, as the law now stood, that where
an individual was summoned as a Baron, and sat in that House, that
thereby a Barony descendible to heirs general was created. He la-
mented that their Lordships had ever laid that down as the law, for he
felt convinced that it was wholly erroneous. As far back as the time of
Richard 11., the Baronies of the country consisted of two class
—those held by tenure, who were entitled by Magna Charta to
be summoned, but who lost their right if they parted with the
land which constituted the Barony ; and the other classes
consisted of those who were from time to time summoned by the King
to give him counsel in the House of Lords. But the summons and
the writ intimated no intention of granting a Barony to heirs general.
If a summons and sitting was to constitute a Barony in fee a door
would be opened to claimants to the high distinction of sitting in that
House, which it would be difficult to close. It would be highly
conducive to the public weal if some period were laid down
during which a claim should be made to a Peerage. Until
the present claim he was not aware of the distinction between a
Baron and a Bannerett. It was clear Sir Thomas Camoys was sum-
moned, and sat in the House of Lords, not as a Baron, but as a Ban.
nerett, which title he submitted was not descendible to heirs.
The Learned Gentleman had not concluded when our reporter left.

LLOYD'S SHIPPING.---(THIS DAY.)

DEAL, JULY 25.—Wind, N.N.W.—Came down from the River and
proceeded, the Marmion, Harrison, for Quebec; Monkey, Bains, for
Lisbon; Black Cat, Chesser, for Constantinople; Cecrops, Finlayson,
for Quebec ; Caroline, Hopper, for ditto; Highbury, Falconer, for Ber-
bice. Arrived and proceeded for the River, the Ealing Grove, from
the West Indies; Janet, from ditto; Albion, Clark, from Tenby ;
Jupiter, from Newcastle.

PORTSMOUTH, JULY 25.—Wind, W. to N.E. Fine.—Sailed, the
Madagascar, Walker, for Bengal ; Celia, Campbell, for ditto; Margaret,
fur the South Seas; Malabar, Pollock, for Bombay.
PLYMOUTH.—Wind, N.N. W.—Arrived, the Theodore, Beike, from
Riga. Arrived off, the Thetis, Partridge, from Jamaica.
FALMOUTH, JULY 24. Wind, N. Fresh breezes and fine.—Arrived,
the Africa, Baxter, from Odessa.
LIVERPOOL, JULY 25.—Wind N.N.W., light.—Arrived, the
Rookery, Sharp, from Jamaica; Kenningham, from Berbice ,
tannia, Leseatver, from Quebec ; Ganges, from ditto ; Triumph, from
Archangel ; Wasily, Williky, from St. Petersburg ; Salvatorium,
Grave, from Stettin ; Hercules, Mayer, from ditto ; Flora, Peters,
from Rostock ; Active, Leach, from ditto ; Archangel, from Riga.

JERSEY, JULY 25.—Arrived, the Harmony, Meparvey, from Dant-
zig, the Fanny, Hignet, from ditto ; the Euphrosyne, Bradheruy, Riga.
BRISTOL, JULY 25.—Arrived, the Margaret, Gray, Marseilles.
GLOUCESTER, JULY 25.—Arrived, the Glowa,- Reimers, Wyburg.
:MILFORD, JULY 24.—Arrived the Royal William, Rogers, Smyrna.
DUBLIN, JULY 24. Arrived, the Eliza, Currie, from Biehibucto
the St. Martins, Vaughan, St. John's, N.B.

CORK, JULY 23.—Arrived the Wharfinger, from London.
PETERHEAD, JULY 23.—Arrived the Perseverance, Haston, from
Greenland, 150 tuns.

SHIELDS, JULY.—Arrived the Sarah, Graham, from Riga; Rachel,
Reis,from Copenhagen.

DOPER, JuLI. 25.—Arrived off port, the Envoy, from Havanna.

HULL, JULY 24.—Arrived the Jane, Watts; and Polly, Heming,
from St. Petersbtirgh ; Jenny, Sharley ; and Hoffnung, Lanyenricks,
from Riga; Emette, Breekin, from Memel; Dorothea, Branstaff, from
Dantzig ; Oxales, M`lntosh ; and Rival, Doughty, from Stettin; Eliza-
beth and Sarah; Liberty, Brown; Ruby, Lawson; Biran Bone, Stroud;
Coquette, Robinson: Kiely, Sinclair; and Conference, Adam, from
Wyburg ; Tropic, Sheden, and Fortuna, Diewitrz, from Newstadt ;
Concordi, Palson, and Sophia, Minde, from Gothenburg ; Haabet, Leth,
from Copenhagen; Elizabeth, Minet, from Halifax ; St. Mary, Tucker,
from Miramichi.

YARMOUTH, JUIN 25.—A large vessel, reported to be the Moscow, of
Hull, from St. Petcrsburgh, is in tow of six smacks of this place, having
been fallen in with, abandoned, near the Lemon Fore Sand. It is sup-
posed she will be taken to Harwich.

LIVERPOOL, JULY 25.—The Lexington, Tilden, bound to Boston, has
put back with hiss of mizenmast.

The Ruby Grove, cf Hull, with six fish and 500 seals, about 100
tuns, was crushed by the ice 27th ult., and sunk—crew saved.
The Elizabeth, Postgate, sprung a leak in the Deeps yesterday morn.
ing, and has one pump constantly going ; she will come into the harbour.
The Phesdo, of Newcastle, is in the Roads leaky.

The Chilo, Babbidge, bound to Boston, got aground last evening near
Dove Point, but is supposed to have come off the following tide, and
proceeded.

CUSTOMS.

SCHEDULE OF PROPOSED ALTERATIONS OF CUSTOM
DUTIES. Duty Present
Proposed. Duty.
E s. d. £ s. d.

A mboyna or Kyabucca wood, the ton lO 0 0 20 per cent.
Apples, raw, the 1001. of value 5 0 0 4s. bushel.
Asphaltum or Bitumen Judaicum, the ton 0 1 0 4 0 0
Blackwood
Cherries, raw, the 1001. of value
Cochineal, from the sth of January, 1839,
the cwt.
Hats or bonnets—viz.,
Chip, the pound' 0 8 0 See below.
Chip, not exceeding 22 inches diame-
ter, the dozen
Chip, exceeding 22 inches diameter
Straw, each hat or bonnet not exceed-
ing 24 inches in diameter, ditto
N. B.—The present :limitation of size is 22
inches, at the same rate of duty.
Hides—viz., sea cow, elephant, and Eland or
large deer hides, the produce of and imported
from the British possessions—viz.,
Not tanned, tawed, curried, or other-
wise dressed—viz.,
Dry, the cwt i 2 4 20 per cent.
Wet, ditto...
Tawed, and not otherwise dressed, the
pound
Cut or trimmed, ditto
Tawed, curried, or in any way dressed,
the pound
Cut or trimmed, ditto
N.B.—These are the duties now payable on
horse, ox, and buffalo hides.
Horns—viz., pieces of horns, the ton
N.B.—Horns and horn tips now pay the
proposed duty.
Iron—viz., bloom iron, the ton
This is an adjustment between the present
duties on pig iron and bar iron, there being
now no appropriate duty on bloom iron.
Kingwood, the ton
Lancewood timber or masts, the load
(To be classed as teak.)
Mahogany, the produce of, and imported from,
the Bay of Honduras, or the Musquito
shore, the ton 1 10 0 1 10 0
N.B.—The effect is, to dispense with the
clearance at Belize, and to determine a question
of limits.
Nutmegs—viz., wild nutmegs in the shell, the

pound
Pears, raw, the 1001. of value 5 0 0 73.6d.bushel
Percussion caps, the 1,000
Seed—viz., poppy seed, the quarter
(To be classed as an oil seed.)
Skins—viz., goose skins, undressed, the skin 0 0 8 20 per cent.
N B.—Swan skins now pay Is. the skin.
Spirits, &c.

N.B.—The only effect is, to place spirits,
upon which the duty is paid on arrival, on
the same footing as spirits which had been
warehoused in respect of degrees of strength
below the strength of proof.
Tails viz., buffalo, bull, cow, or ox tails,
the cwt 0 0 6 6s. the 100.
Tulip wood, the ton

On Tuesday evening a young man, in the service of
the Chelsea Waterworks Company, was accidentally drowned in the
river, while assisting in laying some pipes across the stream, to carry into
effect a plan now in course of trial for a supply of purer water from the
Surrey side.
Yesterday information was received by the Police
that on Monday night last, John :course, butler to the Hon. T. Lefroy,
M.P., 63, Baker-strect, Portman.square, absconded from the house
with two checks, one for 761. 3s. 6d., and the other for I 0/., the latter
of which, it has since been ascertained, he got cashed in the neighbour-
hood. He had been in the family eight years, and left behind him a
letter, stating it to be his intention to proceed to America on the follow_
ng day. The checks were given to him for the purpose of settling some
tradesmen's bills.

METROPOLIs IMPROVEMENT.

TO THE EDITOR. OF THE SUN.

Sin,—l beg, through the medium of your widely circulated
paper, to draw the attention of the public, and especially of
those Members of the House of Commons who form the Com-
mittee now sitting upon a Bill, introduced by Sir Matthew
Wood, for Metropolis Improvements, to an abridged copy
of the report of the Poor Law Cominissioners, upon the causes
of fever in London. In mentioning the localities from which
fever is never absent, White •hart-yard, Newcastle-court, Clare-
market, and the whole neighbourhood of St. Clement Danes,
are particularly mentioned.
My object in calling attention to this, is to remind those
who are interested in the health of the inhabitants of
that district, that a petition was presented a short time
back, signed by one hundred and sixty of the most re-
spectable inhabitants, to make a new street, from Picket-place
to Serle's-street, taking down Crown-court, Star-court, one
side of Newcastle-court, Cromwell-place, part of Little-shire-
lane, and New-court ; and from thence continuing the line into
Holborn, by taking down one side of Great Turnstile. The re-
port go-s on to enumerate the causes of fever :—Three houses
dirty beyond description, as if never washed or swept, and ex-
tremely crowded with inhabitants, who had no means of sepa-
ration, in case of disease arising among them ; five heaps of
refuse and rubbish ; vegetable and animal remains, at the
bottom of close courts and in corners.

I think, Mr. Editor, these facts sufficiently shew the neces-
sity of removing such a nuisance ; the new street would accom-
plish this desirable object in a great measure ; and I hope that
the gentlemen composing the Committee before referred to,
will in their report strongly recommend that the object of the
inhabitants should be carried into effect.

Your insertion of this, at your earliest convenience, will
much oblige one who is deeply interested in the improvement
of that neighbourhood, especially the eradication of vice and
disease, of which it is at present the receptacle. T. P.