The Sun.
London, England, 1838-03-27 00:00:00

answer, then, to nis complaints against tbi4l law, to say that
he had not trought forward individual instances of hardship or
of oppression. The truth was he had abstained from brhigmg
forward irnlividual cases, end those who had given aim infor-
mation had declined to furnish him with names, wisely follow-
i)4 the example of Mr. Bull. lie did not hesitate to say that
he was willing to take " the Bull by the horns" in this respect,
because his object was, not an attack upon individuals, but
against the Act itself. It was absurd to say that the subject
scold be inquired into. Where was there a tribunal proper
for the purpose ? None existed, utiless, indeed, parties were
allowed to sit in judgment on their own -oases. He agreed
with the Noble Lord at the bead of her Majesty's Government
in many of the judicious observations he had made use of, par-
ticularly those in which the Noble Lord stated his determina-
tion of resisting any intemperate advice that might he given
him. He should have no objection to have all his correspond-
ence upon this subject laid upon the table, and it was at the
disposal of their Lordships, who might think it worth nbile to
w ide through such a mountain of papers.
Lord BROUGHAM said he was so much exhausted with
the labours of the morning that he was hardly able to state
hat he otherwise would have wished to have done with re-
f, recce to the speech of the Noble Earl. He regretted to
hear the Noble Earl promise to afford their Lordships so
many opportunities of discussing this delicate question.—
( Hear, hear.) lie regretted the Noble Earl's perseverance
in pursuing this exciting and inflammatory course--( Hear,
hear)—as it could not possibly do any earthly good, either to
„Vie measure in operation, or forward the views of the Noble
Earl. It was a course which was only calculated to excite
end rouse the feelings of peaceable and well-disposed indi-
viduals upon a measure which was the law of the land; and
he really hoped that the Noble Earl's good sense and better
and calmer reason would teach him abstain from mooting
and agitating this question so often.—(Hear, hear.) The
Noble and Learned Lord then said that he considered
he had been ill-treated with respect to the observations of the
Noble Earl, and of another Noble Lord who had left the
House, regarding what he had said as to the case of the Rev.
Mr. Bull. When he said that the Rev. Gentleman had sent
no answer to the Commissioners, he was told that he had pub-
lished an answer in the newspapers. That answer, however,
in his (Lord Brougham's) opinion ought not to be considered
as any answer at all, for it neither mentioned the time nor the
place at which any of the circumstances he found fault with
took place. The same might be said with reference to Mr.
Oastler. All that those gentlemen had put forth were very
awkward and improper statements to be made at public meet-
ings. If attention was paid to the statements put forth in the
different newspapers it would be necessary to enter into a
correspondence with every part of England, in order to be
enabled to contradict those statements, however groundless in
themselves. He had to apologise to their Lordships, but he
really could not hear this subject misrepresented without en-
deavouring to set it right. He hoped his Noble Friend would
reconsider the matter, and not persist in waging interininahle
war against the Poor-law Bill, as he had declared his determi-
nation to do.

The Bishop of NORWICH could speak as an active guar-
dian of the working of the Bill. He believed the Noble Earl
had not the same opportunity, as be had never been a guar-
dian. He (the Bishop of Norwich) had visited the work-
houses in his district, and on inquiry of the inmates he
found that they were all satisfied. So much for the state-
ments of the Noble Earl as to those places, which be called
prisons.

Lord WHARNCLIFFE in reply, said that if the papen 3
which he had moved for did not prove satisfactory, he should
move for a Committee to inquire into the whole of the charges
to which those papers referred.
After a few words from the Earl of RADNOR, in moving
for certain returns relating to the Dudley Union, which were'
agreed to, the original motion was put and also agreed to. ,
The Abolition of Slavery Bill was reported, with amend'.
merits.
The Dissenters' Declaration Bill went through Committee,
and was reported to the House, and ordered to be read a third
time to-morrow.—Adjourned.