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posed of in a few minutes. His hon. friend did not take
this course when the Government had business to dispose
of, and his taking this course with independent members,
and not against the Government, was not calculated to
raise him in the estimation of the house. He (Lord D.
Stuart) had one motion on the paper which would lead to
discussion, which ho did not propose to bring on, but he
had another which would be disposed of in three minutes,
and he should oppose the motion.
Mr. J. D. FITZGERALD hoped Mr. Brotherton would
not persevere in his motion for the adjournment of the
house. At this period of the session members must take
every opportunity to get on with their motions. Ho had a
motion on the paper which there was no chance of bringing
on again if the motion for the'adjourntnent was carried.
Lord J. RUSSELL quite agreed that it wou'd not be
advisable to go on with any motions which would produce
discussion, but it would be refusing an opportunity of fix-
ing the days for disposing of some motions, and throwing
over two or three on which there would Le no discussion,
if this motion was persevered in. His hon. friend should
remember that all the time would betaken in going through
the motions, yet there would be almost as much time taken
up in dividing.
Mr. E. BALL hoped Mr. Brotherton would persevere,
and that the observations which had been made would not
prevent his doing his duty.
Mr. BROTHERTON said ho had been deceived so o. ten
that he must divide.
The house divided— •
For the adjournment 2l
Against it B3
Majority —67
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.

Lord J. RUSSELL said a question was asked in the
early part of the evening with regard to the business on
Friday. He had intended that the vote for the new Se-
cretary at War should come on on Friday, He had sup-
posed that the Bribery Bill would have gone through com-
mittee last night, and he meant to have gone on with the
estimates on Thursday. He should be obliged to go on with
the estimates on Friday ; and therefore the iote for the
Secretary at War would not come on till Monday. Now
they had divided on the question of adjournment, he hoped
that hon. members would not persevere with motions on
which there was to be a debate.

Mr. NAPIER said in consequence of the course that the
del :11A° took yesterday on the Landlord and Tenaat Bill,
he should feel it his duty to make a statement that must
necessarily affect the character of the Government. He
was anxious to make it at the earliest opportunity, and he
hoped the noble lord would fix a time. He had not an
opportunity yesterday, the time for the adjournment of
the house having arrived.

Lord J. RUSSELL—The right hon. gentleman may
have an opportunity on Thursday.
Mr. GROGAN—The morning sitting ?
Lord J. RUSSELL—No, the evening sitting.
CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND.)
Mr. FITZGERALD moved for returns of the number
of inspectors, county inspectors, sub-inspector a, receivers,
surgeons, assistant surgeons, veterinary surgeons, pay-
masters, head constables, constables, and subconstables,
now fqrming the constabulary force in Ireland, and stat-
ing the pay and emoluments of each class, and the number
of Catholics in each class. Of the number of promotions
or appointments to each class above the rank of sub-con-
stable in each year for ten years last past, and stating
in each instance the number of Catholics promoted or ap-
pointed. Aud, the number of sub-constables who have
left the force within the last three years. The mo-
tion, he said, was one of considerable importance,
especially in the circumstances in which they stood.
Fur some time there had been a belief that the
promotions in that force had not been fairly carried
out, that there had been an undue proportion of Pro-
testants promoted. It should be borne in mind that the
proportion of the population was eight Catholics to one
Protestant. Of the thirty-five county inspectors there was
not one Catholic. Rather he should say there was not one
when he placed the notice on the paper, but since then
there had been a vacancy which had been filled up by a
Catholic. Then there were 248 sub-inspectors, of whom
219 were Protestants. The surgeons, assistant-surgeons,
and veterinary surgeons were, he believed, all Protestants.
There were 322 head constables, of whom 268 were Pro-
testants. Of constables the rank next above the lowest
there were 1,800, of whom 1,300 were Protestants ; and of
sub-constables, there were 8,300 Catholics to 1,600 Protes-
tants. There was a precedent for this motion, Mr. Phinn
having obtained a similar return in 1833. He had no sec-
tarian motive in view in bringing forward the motion.
This force had a great hold on the affections of the people,
and his object was to prevent a course being pursued-which
would render it unpopular. At present the sub-constables
were leaving the force in great numbers, as they believed
they had not a fair prospect of promotion.
Sir J. YOUNG said whatever precedents there might
be for such a return he hoped the house would not agree
to it. If a return were made of the figures without ac-
companying statements it would be exceedingly unfair, but
in Ireland the figures would be quoted without the state-
ment. Without attempting to impugn the accuracy of
the figures, quoted by the hon. gentleman, he was pre-
pare i to say that no partiality had been shown in the pro-
motions, and indeed he was prepared to show that the
Roman Catholics had received rather more than their due
share. Though the Roman Catholics were the great ma-
jority of the people, it should be remembered that they
were by no means the majority in the class from which
persons belonging to an educated profession were taken.
When Sir Duncan Macgregor took the command of the
force some years ago, the Protestants were as two to one
compared with the Catholics. By degrees the proportions
had been altered, so that there were now two Catho-
lics to one Protestant. He did not think that a single case
could be found in which any partiality had been shown on
the score of religion.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL thought it would have been much
more judicious if the right hon. gentleman (Sir J. Young)
had not objected to these returns.

Lord NAAS thought he had never heard a motion more
likely to have a bad effect than the present. It was au
attempt to make out a grievance where none existed.
(Oh.) In truth the motion was an attack on Sir D. Mac
gregor—(hear, hear)—who alone was responsible for the
promotion in the force under consideration. (Hear.) He
(Lord Naas) considered that Sir D. Macgregor was entitled
to the thanks of the country for the efficient state to which
he had brought the Irish constabulary force.
Mr. CROSSLEY objected to going on with the discus-
sion at a quarter past 12 at night, when the house would
meet at 12 to-morrow.

Mr. FITZGERALD replied. He knew one instance in
which a Roman Catholic, who had been repeatedly passed
over, had been promoted since notice was given of this
motion. He found no direct fault with Sir 1). Macgregor,
for he knew not enough of the rules of the force to say
whether he was to blame or not. He wished this return
in order to fix the blame on the right shoulders—
The house divided—. -
• For the motion 2l
Against it
Majority —4l
ROYAL MILITARY ASYLUM. _

On the motion of Mr. S. HERBERT, leave was given to
bring in a bill to authorise the application of a sum of mo-
ney out of the forfeited and unclaimed Army Prize Fund,
in enlarging and improving the Royal Military Asylum.
itt bill.
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render the purchase or dealing with securities issued by
the Russian Government during the present war betwe,n
Russia and England a misdemeanour. The noble lord said
the house was aware that as the law at present stood, any
person belonging to this country who advanced money to
Russia thereby became guilty of high treason, and that a
notification to that. effect had lately been made to British
subjects residing in the Hans Towns. Having spoken to
the Attorney-General on the subject, be had found that
there was no law whatsoever to prevent a British subject
from purchasing Russian securities, provided the Russian
Government succeeded in contracting a loan ; and it was
for this reason that he sought to introduce the bill. His
object was to throw as many difficulties the enemy's way
as possible, and he believed the attainment of that object
would be materially facilitated by the passing of the bill.
Leave was then given to bring in the bill.

JAMAICA.
On the motion of Mr. J. WILSON, leave was given to
bring in a bill founded on the resolution of the previous
night guaranteeing a loan of 500,0001. to the colony of
Jamaica.
The house adjourned at half-past one.