The Sun.
London, England, 1854-05-17 00:00:00

THE sUN, LONDON', WEDNESDAY EVENING, MAY 17i 1854.

the great obstacle which stood in the way of its progress
was its property, and, for the sake of Christianity, it was
only right that the control of that property should be
taken out of its hands, and placed under temporal man-
agement.
Mr. SPOONER put it to the house, whether there _
were any grounds for the views which his hon. friend
(Mr. Drummond) had brought forward. He wished he
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could put a stop to those innovations from within, which .__
were far more dangerous to the Church than any at-
tempts from without, and he hoped those who were St
authorised to do so would endeavour to put down those 20
internal aggressions, as he might call them, which were
continually made upon the Church. 50
Mr. WALPOLE said, as this was a most important 13
measure, involving the whole of the Church property 0,
management, hereafter he thought it should be under- "
taken by the Government—(hear, hear)—and therefore 27
he trusted his noble friend (the Marquis of Blandford)
would consent to an adjournment at present of this im-
portant 22
measure. The bill related not only to episcopal 25
but to capitular property, which he considered was a
most weighty reason for not going on with the bill in St
its present shape. St
Lord J. RUSSELL said he believed there was very
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great force in the reasons urged by the right hon. and
learned gentleman for postponing this measure, though2l
at the same time much was due to the noble lord who ii
bad taken such pains with this measure. He agreed 54
with the right hon. and learned gentleman (Mr. Walpole) 2;
that it was very undesirable to discuss a measure of such
very great importance as this, affecting the welfare of 21
the Established Church, on the proposition of any indi. 2,
vidual member of Parliament not representing the Go- 1
vernment or any large section of the country ; and he Fi,
should be very glad if the noble lord was content to post-
pone
this measure, feeling that it was a measure too ins- St.
portant to be allowed to drop (hear) ; and on the under- 25
standing that when the Government had matured a mea- St.
sure on the subject they would bring it forward. But St.
at the same time, if it came to a division, he should feel 10
bound to give a vote affirming the principle of this bill St.
rather than vote against it. (Hear ) 10
Mr. G. LIDDELL was unwilling to transfer the
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management of the property of the church from the St.
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bishops to a London board. St.
Sir B. HALL thought his noble friend the member St.
for Woodstock (Lord Blandford) must be highly grati- St.
fied at the statement of the noble lord the member for 12
London, that he approved the principle of the measure 50
now under consideration, and that he should be pre- 16,
pared, on the part of the Government, to bring in, not
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one measure, but several measures, with respect to the St.
management of church property.
Mr. DIGBY SEYMOUR said, if the noble lord 14
(Lord Blandford) went to a division, he should vote V,
with him, for the noble lord was asked to adjourn the Ili
measure by two parties—one, that thought to attempt 10.
to reform the church at all was to uproot it, and the St.
other, that you ought not to attempt to reform it unless St.
you were determined to uproot it. (Hear, hear.) 20
Sir G. GREY suggested that the noble lord (Lord A. 10
Vane) would agree to withdraw his motion for adjourn. 126
went, and that the real question before the house should
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be debated on its own merits now that they had heard
the views of the Government stated by the noble lord
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the member for London. (Hear.) 25
After some remarks from Mr. H. T. LIDDELL and Mr. St.
MOWBRAY in favour of an adjournment of the debate, 812,
The Marquis of BLANDFORD having expressed his St.
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great satisfaction at what had been elicited from the
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noble lord the leader of the house on this subject, and
the kind expressions of the house with reference to him-
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self ; briefly replied to the principal objections to his
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measure, concluding by stating it as his opinion that,
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looking at the circumstances of the country he thought 25'
it essential that the house should affirm the second read- 50
ing of the bill, and if they did so now they could get 20
into committee by the time the commissioners on Capitu-
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lar estates should have made their report. (Hear.)
Mr. GOULBURN expressed his intention to vote
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against the second reading of the bill. St
After a few remarks by Sir W. CLAY, 16
The house divided, when the numbers were— 16
For the adjournment of the debate 62 f
Against it
The Marquis of BLANDFORD then said, after what if
had now taken place, he could have no objection to con- 1.0
sent that the bill be read a second time pro forma, and
that it should be committed on the 21st June. 2(
The bill was then read a read a second time accord- 2(
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ingly.
DRAINAGE OF LANDS BILL.
Mr. K. SEYMER moved the second reading of
this bill.
Mr. CHRISTOPHER opposed the bill, considering
that one of the leading clauses of which was to take the
land of your neighbour without his consent. He moved
an amendment that the bill be read a second time this
day six months.
Sir J. TROLLOPE hoped his hon. friend (Mr.
Christopher) would withdraw his amendment. His hon.
friend had found fault chiefly with but one clause of the
oill, and he (Sir J. Trollope) thought that clause, and
any other objectionable matter in the bill might be
omitted when the bill got into committee.
Sir J. SHELLEY defended the principles of the bill,
and hoped the bill would be allowed by the house to go
into committee.
Sir W. HEATHCOTE supported the bill generally.
Mr. HENLEY hoped if the house allowed the bill to
be read a second time they would refer it to a select
committee, for he thought, as the bill now stood, it had
no chance of getting through the house with any advan-
tage to the farmers.
Lord PALMERSTON hoped the house would agree
to the second reading of the bill, in order that it might
get into committee ; and in fact all the objections that had
been urged against the bill were merely committee objec-
tions. There were few matters of more importance either
as regarded the welfare of agriculturists or the health of
the people, than good drainage, and therefore he should
give his most cordial support to this bill. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. CHRISTOPHER then withdrew his amendment,
and after a brief reply from Mr. KER SEYMOUR,
The bill was read a second time, and ordered to be
committed on Wednesday next.
MANINNG THE NAVY BILL.
The report of the committee on this bill was then
brought up and agreed to.
NAVY PAY, &c., BILL.
The report of the committee on this bill was also
brought up, and agreed to.
The house then adjourned at half-past five o'clock.

STATE OF TRADE.

(From the Manchester Guardian of this day.) •••
20
MANCHESTER, May 16.—Cotton is reported as Ato 17i
lc. lower in the week at New York, but as remaining 20
at BAc. per lb. for middling at New Orleans. The
20
re- 20
ceipts continued large, and the estimates were running at
2,800,000 to 2,900,000 bales. The Liverpool cotton 20
market is dull, with prices scarcely varying from those
20
of Friday last. The buyers in this market feel the mo- 3Y.
tives for caution to press with rather augmented force ; 1'6(1
and their purchases are consequently very small, such No
only as their more urgent wants render necessary. As 20
there is no disposition to be tempted to large opera- 20?
tions by lowness of price, all that can be said with the
present retail business is, that the bias of value is still ...
somewhat against the producers of both yarns and 20
goods ; quotations of change can hardly be given, the 100
declining tendency, being, as it has all along been, 20
scarcely perceptible in its steps. Some of the overland 5
letters (those by Trieste) were received this morning ; 2
and their advices from the India markets do not appear
to be worse than those by the previous mail ; we have
accordingly had some inquiry to-day for yarns, and also
for the lighter makes of madapollams, jacconets, and
shirtings, though but little has been done in them.
HALIFAX, May 13.—The aspect of our piece hall has
been to-day quite as dull as it usually has been for some
time past, and few worsted goods of Any sort have been
inquired for. In yarns, there is a turn in favour of the
buyer ; and the spinners, being in a worse position than
before, are more and more resorting to working short
time. The wool market generally is not active. For
deep-grown bright Lincolnshire wool there is much in-
quiry, and the late advance on them is fully maintained.
Other descriptions go off heavily, at late rates.
ROCHDALE, May 15.—The flannel market continues
in a very languid and inactive state. There is no wish
on the part of the merchants to purchase at the present
time, except it be some particular kind of goods they
may not have in stock. The wool Beale' s complain of
having nothing to do ; and the manufacturers are desir-
ous to work up the stocks they have in hand rather
than go into the market and buy new.
HUDDERSFIELD, May 16.--The market to-day has
been very flat in every branch. Manufacturers com-
plain much of the want of business, and wool merchants
say they are doing next to nothing. With the excep-
tion of the yarn spinners, who have lately been busy,
the woollen trade is depressed. Being fair day the
streets have been crowded with people ; but as to pur-
chases, the shopkeepers, like the rest, might almost as
well have had a holiday.

LLOYD'S SHIPPING-(THIS DAY.)

(BY SUBMARINE AND EUROPEAN TELEGRAPH.)
GRAVESEND, Wednesday, 10.48 a.m.
Wind, E.; tide, low water ; weather very fine.
Arrived, 16th—Alina, from Nykiobing ; Gertrude La.
merkine, Konigsberg.
Arrived, 17th—Lskkens Prove, from Bandholm ; Ararat,
Archangel ; Frsdmodig, Arendal ; Andenken, Frelloborg ;
Sarah Mills, Rostock ; Lydia, Gothenborg ; Johanna,
Tenserzeil.
Sailed—Cordelia, for New Zealand ; City of London,
Dunkirk Seine (a), Boulogne.

LONDON, May 17.—Wind this day at Noon, N. to N.NE. ;
light pleasant breeze, and fine clear weather.
PORTSMOUTH, May 16.—Wind, E.N.E. Arrived—Win. 5
Bromham, from Sierra Leone ; Mariano, Daritzie ; H.M.'s 25
at Miranda, Westward. 20
PLYMOUTH, May 16.—Wind, E.N.E. Arrived—Augusta, 10
from Geija, for Konigsberg ; Nestor, London, for Portland 10
Bay ; Wm. Prause, London, foa Adelaide, S.A. ; Cocker- 50
mouth Castle, Loudon, for Paineboeuf, with mainmast 5
sprung.
FALMOUTH, May 16.—Wind, N.E. Sailed—Mathilda, 100
5
for Amsterdam.
NSTOWN, May 15.—Wind, variable. Arrived— 5
QUEE
Margaret Evans, from Jaffi. 4
DOVER, May 16.—Wind, E.N.E. Arrived Finish, 20
from Portsmouth, for Harwich, with loss of anchor and 25
chain. Off Port—Ellen Margaret, Salonia, for Yarmouth ; 25
Susannah, Hamburgh, for Valparaiso. 1
RAMSGATE, May 16.—Wind, N.E. Arrived—Thomas 15
Leo, from Callao, for Leith, sustained slight damage in 20
entering the harbour, Flora, Hartlepool, for Margate, 20
jibbnom and bowsprit carried away in entering harbour. 20
OFF BEACHY HEAD, May 16.—Wilberforce, from the 1
Mauritius ; Rio Packet, Rio Janeiro. 10
MEMEL, May Weather finevariable 2
feet of water on the bar. H.M.S. Amphion is still in the
1
bay. 1
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