The Sun.
London, England, 1853-08-09 00:00:00

'IIIIE SUN, LONDON, TYJESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 9, 1853,

Cambridgeshire, and for this, among other reasons, that it
had been already answered in anticipation. Hon. gentle-
men were aware that what he had to say on this subject
had been said by him on a former occasion—(laughter)—
and though, generally speaking, he thought it very bad
taste for a member to praise his own speeches, still, he
conceived he had eminent reason to be satisfied with the
result of his advocacy, It was admitted by the hon. mem-
ber for Cambridgeshire, that if a division had taken place
on the occasion alluded to, before he (the Chancellor of the
Exchequer) addressed the house, the motion for reducing
the duty would have been carried; but that such was the
force of his reasoning,his simplicity— (laughter)—and perfect
ingenuity, that by the time he came to the close of his ob-
servations, there was a majority against the proposal.
(Laughter.) After circumstances such as these, he could
not, with the greatest possible respect for the hon. member
for Cambridgeshire, renew the controversy, or reiterate ar-
guments which had already proved so successful, but he
would promise to give the subject all the consideration that
had been asked for it.
After a few remarks from Mr. SPOONER and Sir J.
SHELLEY.

Mr. BALL withdrew his motion, expressing himself sa-
tisfied with the promise of the Chancellor of the Exchequer
to consider the question against next session.
The house then went into committee of ways and means,
and two or three votes were agreed to.
The house having resumed, Mr. BOUVERIE brought
up the report of supply, which was received.
The Pilotage Bill was read a third time.
THE CUSTOMS BILL.
-

there 'were any exemptions, he should certainly move, at
the -proper time, that London be one of them.
Tixe SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the 'University 1
of Durham did not at all correspond with the colleges and
halls in the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge. The
Universities of Cambridge and Oxford were corporate
bodies, which was not at all the case with the other
bodies. Both the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge
must become the subject of more special examination and
appropriate legislation than they could receive under tho
bill, whereas if Durham and London were excluded, they
would be altogether deprived of the benefit of any
legislation. He trusted the hon. member for Durham
and the house would acquiesce in the proposition of the
noble lord the member for the city of London.
Mr. CHAMBERS thought the University of London
just as much a body corporate as either the University of
Oxford or Cambridge. The same law should apply to all
the colleges and halls, all being included under or excluded
from the opertytion of the bill.

Mr. INd-HAM deniedtliatthe colleges and halls of the
University of Durham were on a different footing from
those of Oxford or Cambridge. He was in favour of
exempting Durham, but he thought the exemption should
be extended to the University of London, which was fully
entitled to every mark of respect and confidence.
Mr. HEY WOOD suggested that there should be a gene-
ral act for all the universities.
After a few words from Mr. MALnrs,
The house divided, when the numbers were—
For the motion to omit Durham from the
clause 65
Against it
Majority against Lord J. Russell's motion —5
The University of Durham is therefore excepted from
the operation of the act.
Mr. THORNLEY then moved that the colleges, halls,
and schools of the University of London, under the provi-
sions of any charter thereof, should be excluded from the
operation of the bill, his object being to place the Univer-
sity of London on the same footing with the Universities
of Oxford and Cambridge.
Lord J. RUSSELL objected to the proposed exemption,
which, he believed, would lead to great mischief if it were
carried.

'—Mr.iIEYWOOD showed that the halls, colleges, and
schools connected with the University of London, were not
charitable institutions at all, but supported by the volun-
tary contributions of a large body of people. As Oxford
and Cambridge were excluded, so he thought should
London.

The SOLICITOR-GENERAL considered that it was
desirous the forms should be the same in respect of all the
universities, but he did not think it would be proper,
under present circumstanees, to include the University of
London.

Mr. BLACKETT considered that the exemption, so far
as the University of London was concerned, was right and
proper.
After a few words from Mr. BOUVERIE and Mr. W. J.
Fox, the committee divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment 6l
Against it
Majority against the amendment —ls
The amendment was consequently lost.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL proposed to add a clause
to the bill, to meet a suggestion thrown out by Mr. Kin-
naird in committee, to the effect that charitable, tract, and
other kindred societies, that publish books, should be
exempt from the operations of the bill.—Agreed to.

The Militia Ballots Suspension and Militia Law Amend-
ment Bill, passed through committee.
The Copyhold, dtc. Commission Continuance Bill, and
Commons Enclosure (No. 3) Bill, were read a second time.
Mr. WALPOLE obtained leave to bring in a bill to con-
solidate and amend the laws relating to bribery, treating,
and intimidation at elections.
The bill was brought in and read a first time.
On the motion of Mr. G. BERKELEY, a new writ was
ordered to be issued for the city of Cork, in the room of
Mr. Serjeant Murphy, who had accepted the office of one
of her Majesty's Commissioners for the Relief of Insolvent
Debtors in England.
The other business on the paper being disposed of, the
house adjourned at 25 minutes to 4 o'clock.