The Sun.
London, England, 1838-10-03 00:00:00

COURT CIRCULAR.

WiiitiOß, TUESDAY. —Her Majesty returned from London
to the Castle last night at about half-past six.
Lady Portman and Lady Forbes left the Castle this morning,
and are succeeded by Lady Lyttelton and Lady Charlotte
Copley. Lord Uxbridge and Sir R. Otway succeed Lord
Torr.r,gton and Colonel Armstrong.
Her Majesty went to Bagshot to pay a visit to the Duchess
of Gloucester this morning, accompanied by the Duchess cf
Rent, Lady M. Stopford, and Colonel Cavendish.
The Hon. W. Temple arrived last evening.

The Duke

.e of Cambridge left his residence at Kew on Mon-
day, on a visit to her Royal Highness the Duchess of Glou-
cester, at Bagshot Park.
Despatches from the British Charge d'Affaires at Lisbon
were received yesterday, at the Foreign-office.
Mr. H. Fox Young had an interview with Lord Glenelg
yesterday, at the Colonial-office.
Several of the household of her Majesty the Queen Dowager
left town yesterday, for Portsmouth, to embark on board the
Bastings.
Despatches from the Governors of the West India colonies
were received yesterday, at the Colonial-office.
The Marquis of Clanricarde transacted business yesterday
at the Foreign Department.
Lord Glenclg transacted business yesterday at the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer's office in Downing-street.
The Swedish, Prussian, and French Ambassadors tran-
sacted business yesterday at the Foreign Derartment.
for L
Despatches were forwarded yesterday from Downing.strcet
ord Melbourne at Windsor.
Despatches, dated the 21st ult., were received ye•terday at
the Colonial Department from Major-General Sir Alexander
Woodford, K. C. 8., Governor of Gibraltar.
Despatches, dated the 25th ult., ware received yesterday
at the Foreign Department from the British Consul at Oporto.

CORN•LAW FALLACIES, WITH THE

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 3, 1838.

MR. VINCENT AND COLONEL
NAPIER.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
SIR,—In your Paper of Friday last, as has just been pointed
out to me, there appears a communication from some indis-
creet friend of the able, eloquent, and manly Colonel Napier,
apparently quarrelling with the REPORT of the Combo Down,
Bath, political demonstration meeting, but in reality displaying
soreness at remarks founded on the skirmish between Colonel
Napier and Mr. Vincent, on the latter designating the Duke
of Wellington a "knave." With the observations on those
remarks I should not have troubled myself, but for the impli-
cation—for it is not very explicitly asserted—that Colonel
Napier was not included in Mr. Vincent's " category." Its
introduction is attributed, somewhat flippantly, to what is de•
Glared to be well known, that Reporters sometimes have
" peculiar ears;" in plain Irish, that in this case
the Reporter had heard what was never uttered ;
simple English, that he invented the introduction of Colonel
Napier's name. Now, here is charged most flagitious conduct
on the part of the Reporter ; but if the charge be unfounded,
what expressions ought to be affixed to the conduCt of him'
who, some time after the report, could so deliberately prefer
it? To have invented such part of the report would have
been the merest gratuitous folly imaginable, for as it is indis-
putable that Mr. Vincent declared „every" man to be a
" knave" who denied to him the elective franchise, Colonel
Napier was included if be denied such right ; but as he had
before manfully and ably avowed his adherweniicle
(t.xoptlhaeinp;rinarei.d.
ples of Radical Reform, be was safe from the charge. When
the declaration was made, coupled with the Duke of Wel-
lington's name, Colonel Napier exclaimed that the Duke was
no knave. Mr. Vincent then said, I
sa records the report ; and he did explain, by declaring
that he applied the word politically, and that whether it wag
a Wellington, a Russell, or a NAPIER who denied to him the
right of voting, that man he should pronounce, politically
speaking, " a knave." As the writer of the report, which
originally and exclusively appeared in the Morning Advertiser,
and which was quoted by several London papers for the per:
pose of making comments thereon, I take the liberty to repeat
that I adhere to the accuracy of the report regarding that
declaration; and be it remembered, that the storm which
raged, agitated not me. I had nothing to do with the meet-
ing but to listen to its proceedings and record them faithfully,
and my character (I hope Colonel Napier's defender will not
smile at the idea of a Reporter having character) and occupa-
tion, to boot, were guaranteed for as honest a performance of
the duty as I was capable of. I never saw Mr. Vincent nor
Colonel Napier before that meeting. I have neither prejudices
nor partialities regarding either; but if Col. Napier's de fender
will not Rich at the expression of any respect felt by arepor-
ter, especially one with peculiar ears ; I confess I ,was im-
pressed with the very highest opinion of Colonel Napier's
abilities, eloquence, and obvious honesty and manliness ; and
certainly, without caring one farthing w hether :the Colonel's
defender believe the assertion or not, I should be most heartily
ashamed of myself if I could have deliberately invented any
thing that could wound the Colonel's feelings for a moment.
He is far too talented and too honest a man to be insulted in
any way ; but I confess I am immeasurably astonished that
such notice should have been taken of the hypothetical ap-
plication of the word, Mr. Vincent obviously using the
Colonel's name to enforce and illustrate his meaning, that
politically speaking, he should deem every man "a knave,"
whoever he might be, who denied to him the right of voting.
Colonel Napier, at the end of Mr. Vincent's speech, re-
peated his defence of the Duke, and (curious illustration of
his opinion of the gentleness of Mr. V. 'a terms, which your
Correspondent would insinuate have been misunderstood !)
expressed the hope that they should not " call names," and
" scold like women ;" after which Mr. Vincent repeated his
definition of what he meant by the term " knave." He then
called for " three cheers," and he had them, and " one cheer
more." The defender declares that this was not from exulta-
tion, as if Mr. Vincent deemed himself the victor. The re-
pirt gave it no character, but merely mentioned the fact; the
public could judge. But why this is referred to, also puzzles
one !

As to the manner in which the Colonel was afterwards
noticed, the Reporter said not a word ; but as it has been
mentioned, allow the Reporter to record the fact, that seeing
the Colonel about to descend the steps, though proceeding
there himself, he made way for the Colonel—that the Colonel
walked cff the ground without further notice, and that at this
po,nt there was no cheering of him—nothing- beyond the most
respectful notice of him. But why this matter should have
been alluded to, also puzzles, seeing that the report is alto-
gether silent on anything that took place after the meeting.
I trust my anxiety to 'show that, as a reporter I did not
wantonly abuse confidence; and to declare I have too much
regard for character deliberately to insert that which was never
tittered; and that I feel myself as incapable of any such deli
berate " invention," as, with all due deference he it written,
could Colonel Napier himself, or his defonder.—Yours, Sze.
Oct. 2. THE REPORTER.

GREAT" RADICAL DEMONSTRA-
TION AT SHEFFIELD.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
Sta,—Knowing your unflinching advocacy of Reform, but
feeling assured that will not lead you, for the sake of pro-
moting that cause, wilfully to mislead your read Yrs, I offer a
few remarks on the account given in sour Paper of the
" gi cat" Rodical Demonstration at Shelfleid—an account than
which a more incorrect one never appeared in any Journal.
I address these remarks to you on two accounts:--First,
feeling convinced that false statements can never do good, but
harm—as is now the case in Sheffield—and has served the
purpose of the Tories in calumniating the whole body of
Reformers for the faults of the publishers of the Sheffield Iris.
And secondly—l write to assure you that the main Reformers
here approve of the line of conduct you have recommended,
viz., to confine present attention to the Corn-laws.
Notwithstanding every endeavour for the last six weeks to
obtain notoriety for the meeting, a more complete failure, as
is frankly admitted by the working men themselves, never took
place in this town. The Iris says twenty thousand persons
were present; whereas the truth is, which cannot be denied
with any regard to correctness, there Were not five thousand
men women and children at the most. In this statement 1
am borne out by the two Reforming Journals, viz,, the
Independent and Chronicle. As to the flags, banners, music,
&c , there were four flags, and two bands of music; and as
to the applause on the route, if loud laughter is applause,
there was sufficient of it.
Mr. E4itor,—l am proud to see our artisans are not so
easily to be gulled by a few political adventurers, who wou!d
lead them into trouble and then leave them in the lurch ; but that
when proper opportunities and objects of judicious Reform
present themselves, I have no doubt the "men of Hallam-
shire" will be found at their posts.
With wishes for the success of your excellent Journal,
I am yours, A REFORMER.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

NEWMARKET FIRST OCTOBER MEETING.

YESTERDAY.
Handicap Sweepstake;, of 10 soya, each, for three yrs old and up-
wards. T. Y. C. 9 Subs.
Mr. Greville's Hilda, 3 yrs, 7st. 21b Cotton 1
Mr. Pettit's St. Francis, 3 yrs, Bst. 91b 2
The following also started ; —Lord Albemarle's Basil, 4 yrs,
Bst. 91b; Captain Gardnor's c. Ochiltree, by Gaberlunzie, out of
Cinderella, 3 yrs, Bst. 51b ; General Grosvenor's c. Merrythought,
by The Colonel, nut of Pinions, 4 yrs, Bst. 31b ; Colonel Peel's
Wave, 3 Yrs, 7st. 121 b ; Mr. Rogers's c. by Picton, out of Eel, 3
yrs, 7st. 91b; Duke of Richmond's Hoogley, 3 yrs, 7st. 51b; and
Mr. T. A. Smith's Cracker, 3 yrs, 7st.

Betting-3 to 1 agst. Cracker (taken), sto 1 agst Wave, sto 1
agst St. Francis, and 7to 1 agst Merrythought. Won by a head.
The Grand Duke Michael Stakes of 50 sovs. each, for three years
old ; colts, Bst. 71b; and fillies, Bst. 31b. A.F. 28 Subs.
Lord G. Benti►ick's ir. c. Grey Momus J Day 1
Mr. Watts's b. c. Dash..
Lord Albemarle's b. f. Barcarolle
Mr. Thornhill's eh. c. Saintfoin
Lord Exeter's Mecca

7t02 on the Grey. Won by two lengths.
The Hopeful Stakes, of 40 sove. each, h. ft., for two-years old
colts, Bst. 71b ; and fillies, Bst. 51b. The last half of Ab. iV
The winner of the July and Chesterfield Stakes, tilbs ; if botl:

91bs. extra; the winner of any other Sweepstakes or Plate, 31bs.
extra; those got by Arabians, or out of Arabian mare:, allowed
51bs. The second to receive 50 sous. out of the Stakes. 23
Subs.
Duke of Richmond's Ree 1........
Mr. Thornhill's b. f. by Merchant
2
Duke of Richmond's ch. f. Confusionee, by Emilius ......
The following also started:—Colonel Peel's bl. f. Whim ; Ge-
neral Yates's b. e. Canute ; Mr. Barnes's br. f. by Emilius, out of
()pileHa; Lord Exeter's c. by Reveller, out of Advance; Mr.
G3rdnor's b. c. by Rowten, out of Bustle ; and the Duke of Rich-
mond's Estelle.

Rogers

Betting-2 to 1 agst Shoveller f., 3to 1 agst Mr. Gardnor's e.
5 to 1 agst Whim, 6to 1 agst Estelle, and 8 to 1 agst Lord Exc.
ter's c. Won by a neck.

Match, 200, h: ft. T .Y. C.—Lord Suffield's Arsenic, Bst. 71b.
(Davis), beat Mr. Greville's Mango, Bst. 51b. Won by four
lengths.
The Buckenham Stakes of !00 sovs. each, h. ft., for the produce
of mares covered in 1833 ; cobs, Bst. 71b ; and fillies, Bst. 41b.
1'.1.7.C. to bring one to the pest. 10 Subs.
Lord Exeter's f. Maeremma, by Sultan Darling 1
Mr. Greville's Pergama, by Priam 2
Betting-5 to 2on Alaeremma. Won by four lengths.

BELFORD AUTUMN RA CES.-711oNnAr.
The Hunters' Stakes, with 25 sous. added, for horses, &e.,
which have been: regularly hunted with any established pack of
fox-hounds during the season of 1837-8 ; four yrs, 10st. 41b ; five
yrs, list. 41b ;:six yrs and aged, 12st. ; gentlemen riders ; heats,
twice round and a distance ; were won in two heats by Mr. J.
Laing's Birthday, by Percy, 5 yrs, beating Mr. Boag's be. g. Do-
nald Caird, 5 yrs.
The Farmers' Stakes, with 15 soya, added, for horses, &c.,
bona fide the property of farmers; four yrs, 10st. 41b; five yrs,
llst. 41b ; six yrs and aged, 12:st ; gentlemen riders ; heats, twice
round and a distance ; were won in two heats by Mr. Clark's b. m.
Norna, by Guerilla, (1 vrs, beating Mr. Tait's br. m. Tweedside,
aged, and Mr. Binnie's eli. g. The Laird's Br.ither, aged.
The Selling Stakes, with 10 sues. added, for horses, &c., of all
ages,' not thorough-bred ; three yrs, 6st. 81b ; 4 yrs, 7st. 1011) ;
fire yrs, hst. 41b ; six yrs and aged, Bst. 71b ; heats, twice round
and a dHance ; the winner to be sold for 50/. ; were won in two
heats by Mr. Johnson's ch. m. Nanny Banks, beating Mr. Scott's
br. m. Highland Mary, by Telegraph, 6 yrs; Mr. Batter's ch. m.
Fair Helm 5 yrs ; and Mr. Glaholm's b. g. St. Cuthbert, 4 yrs ;
out was objected to as being thorough-bred.

SOUTHAMPTON IMPROVEMENTS.

(From the Hampshire Advertiser.)
COMMERCIAL PROSPECTS OF SOUTHAMPTON.-The analysis
of the causes which have led to the decline of Southampton
as a station for commerce, and the investigation of the circum-
stances which appear to justify the strong expectation, now en-
tertained, of a returning tide in her favour, might lead us far
and deep into historical details, and into the consideration of
future probabilities, abounding in interest, but too extensive
for cur columns. We cannot, however, resist the temptation
to occupy the attention of our readers by some cursory re-
marks bearing on these points. Not the least curious fact pre-
senting itself to our attention, on the retrospect of times past, is
the position of London, which, evidently, owes its early dis-
tinction, to the advantages of the Thames flowing at its
feet, and the salubrity of its neighbourhood, but above all—
and. that is the circumstance which fixes our immediate atten-
tlon—the difficulty of its approach from the sea. In the early
days of the town of " Lud," England was the prey of the in-
vader—the Saxon, the Dane; the Norman, by turns, swarmed
npon her sh,res, and it appears were particularly attracted to
the waters of Southamption, because they were at once easy
of access front the ocean, and carried the marauder into a most
delightful part of the island. Thus, such has been the course
of human affairs, that that which stature had urovided in the
largest measure, for the comfort, convenience, and accommo.
d.:tion of man, acted as a reDellasit, driving him, for protec-
tion from the vioence of his fellowman, to the security
afforded by the sands arid quicksands, gathered at the debouche
and the sinuous doublings of the coure of the Thames. We
have not been too long relieved from the prudential conside-
rations which the sh.-I..cr of London affords. In the days (,f
the last Charles, the Dutch seamen, on their visit to Chatham,
threatened our capital, and the ascendancy of hostile fleets,
even during the reign of George the Third, threatened our
ports in the English Channel. The subsequent triumphs of
our naval flag have, for the present, at least, put these fears
at rest; and new prospects, accompanied by a different descrip-
tion of danger, open upon us. London, after enjoying the ad-
vantages of so much of monopoly as enabled her to combine
by far the largest portion of tie commerce of the kingdom, is
now laid open, with trifling: exception, to the competition of
all our principal ports; and transport, by steam power, is ra-
pidlytaking
supply at
the place of the methods of locomotion previously
in use,
the same time, a new and powerful arm
ing

tvoFii:riel
an'ne,t,rwe tehiotalbltlhtdiejitputshehs
on
conclusiont o tl e
enemy),foil°
of war.
Some of the early effects of these great changes upon
Southampton arc obvious. Freedom from commercial mono-
polynels which may be best calculated to promote the convenience
will naturally and necessarily carry trade into those chez-
and increase the profit of the merchant and ship-owner, leaving
little to individual option, silica ho who in the management of
It's capital sill cot adopt those modes of business which re-
quirecessation of monopoly and the calculating and active habits of
the least time and expense, must lose his money. The
in these days is conclusive on this point, and when to
ap-
plied for the distance of six miles only, renders the pass.ige up
thlniissneleolideraion it be added. that the use of steam-tugs,
Southampton water certain at all times—that the
steam-engine, so subser-
vient down
the merchant in connec-
tion transport, by steam, is calculated to open Southampton as
w s rendertiia t
thael ltibauet
oifmnprriatci
stii,ccaoliml e.,
the most central of our ports for all England—and that, on the
will, in time of w,aar n (should ht
hoeulidnitphi
vpeomrtiiotsf
peesovrortf[tyheintvi•e.aivit,ilainerofa' toldte
i
pound ratio, to render
for merchant ships, the passage by the narrow seas to and from
icoo country, not r,yn,
nww-inlls'act in strong upon Southampton ; the recent charge
our harbour the most conveeient and desirable in the kincadom
for such a proportion of its maritime trade, as will be fully '
sufficient to raise it to the first class in the enumeration of the.
various ports, harbours, and estuaries, which distinguish these
in nrii'eettrhicpeoe co
usefulmm ear 'it,sa: code of i
ii
g the,
islands, and have been the principal means of carrying up the
nation to its present eminence. To this end, however, it is
indispensable that we should be well provided with wet and
dry docks, and all the means and numerous appliances re-
quired by the merchant, both for ships and thcia cargoes, and
we rejoice in the prospect of the early accomplishment of the
first of these obj
eata—a capacious wet dock.
TIIE SOUTHAMPTON Dears,—lt has been observed by
per-
sons of large experience and good habits of observation, that 1
this island were now to be settled anew, or for the first t.
Southampton would become the -metropolitan city. \yr de,„'
not wholly accord with this opinion, for we cannot imagineL a
situation superior, if equal to London, for the Court,-lature, and the courts of law, as well as for the
Le-
gislature, the centre of the
banking system and a principal seat for our merchants ; but so
far as relates to an entrepot for goods and a passage port for
travellers we cannot doubt that, without any systeniaticchange
in our domestic economy, we shall, upon the completion of the
railway and a commercial dock, promptly
attract to our harbour
a large commercial marine. We must, however, remind our
townsnien that Commercial docksalone• will riot afford all the ac-
commodation required by shipping, and more particularly as to
the outfit. Repairing docks, s
Fli la and nays, rope-walks, sail-
lofts, cooperages and ,large means of supply of fresh and salt
provisions in every variety will be •d.
require The abundance
of timber in this and -
neighbouring counties, and the great
agricultural field li strete 1• ng forth north, cast, and west, and
the
least, port, at
as cheap as any in England,'
and, the measure of our
prosperity • .
will, in a material degree, turn upon this considera-
tion. It may appear early to l;* this
ring subject under the at-
tention of our
may . e readers, and it is undoubtedly for those who
matcohpredisposed to embark their capitals in such objects, to
i preparation whenever they may judge best ; but we are
sure it too soon to think of these things, since the day is
approachi o
cEntmont: when they cannot fail to be wanted.
OF LATINO TIIE FIRST STONE OP THE SOUTH-
AMPTON DOL.CY
commenced, and
great national undertaking has been
of
men and promises to go forward with rapid speed. A
number _ are already busily engaged in digging. out the
foundation
of f the sea wall ; and it is finally settled that the
ceremony laying the first stone will take place on Friday,
the loth.
Inst. It will be seen by advertisement that the Pro-
vincial Grand Lodge ' .lend its assistance o
of Hampshire will
officer,
this interesting Admiraln
occasion, and that its chief
Sir Lucius Curtis, Bart will (assisted by Joseph Liggens,
Esq., the CI • "
tairman, the Board of Directors, and Sharehol-
ders of the Dock Company, and w I presume the Mayor and
-e
body corporate, the inhabitants, visitors, and others) have the
honour of performing this ancient and customary act.

COACH ACCIDENTS.—No less than three or four
of these casualties, within as many days, and at various parts
of the kingdom, having taken place from precisely the same
cause (but, happily, exempt from any fatal consequences)
viz., the breaking of the axletree of tha fore-wheels, we are
induced to offer a few remarks, with a view to drawing the at-
tention of coach proprietors and builders to the subject, and
thereby inducing the application of a remedy or safeguard
against the effects often produced upon the lives and limbs of
her Majesty's leige subjects, who may happen to be traversing
the country either in the pursuit of pleasure or on a tour of
business. The legislature has wisely enacted regulations with
regard to the number of passengers, and the height from the
ground of luggage placed on the roof, which a coach shall be
allowed to carry ; but the aggregate weight which the axle-
trees shall have to sustain of both the vehicle and luggage to-
gether, is left to the discretion of the guard, or the indiscre-
tion of the passengers; the latter of whom act as if they
were reckless of consequences either to themselves or others,
particularly those who travel by night, if they can but be accom-
modated with places ; more especially the inside passengers,
who frequently have luggage enough for a waggon to carry.
In Birmingham they have a place called a proof house,"
where every gun barrel must be put to the test before it is al-
lowed to be used for the deadly purposes of extermination, partly
because it shall not explode to the injury of the party using it,
and partly that it may not fail in conveying destruction against
those at whom it may be aimed : but in public carriages and
steam-boats, intended for the safe conveyance of those who in-
trust their lives and limbs by them, the security required is wholly
left to those who engage for hire to ply or run from place to
place. The only security the public at present seem to have
with regard to post coaches is, that the proprietors pay a
mileage ratio for the use of the carriages to the builders,
whose interest it is to construct them of good materials, that
they may not have them so frequently sent for repair ; but
unless some immaterial spring or bolt gives way, the exami-
nation which ought to take place ..t the commencement or
conclusion of every journey, particularly with coaches that
do not run to and from the metropolis, will, we fear, continue
to be neglected till inspectors are appointed by the Legisle-
tore to endeavour to give security against the coach acci-
dents and steam explosions which are continually being re-
ported in our columns.
Yesterday a lad about twelve years of age,
named
George Murray, was brought before Messrs. Hippert and
Woolridge, at Watford, charged with stabbing a boy about
his own age, named James Venables, with intent to
murder him, or to do him some grievous bodily harm. It
appeared that the occurrence in question took place onSa-
turday afternoon. The prisoner and some other lads were
throwing stones at some pigeons belonging to the master of
Venables, when the lad interfered, and told them to desist,
but they refused, and be ultimately struck the prisoner. The
prisoner drew back from him, and took a knife out of his
pocket, and told the prosecutor that if he struck him
again he
would stab him. Upon this Venables went towards him,
and while he was in the act of attempting to strike him, the
prisoner made a stab at his stomach, and Vepablcs put up his
arm before him, and fortunately succeeded in warding off the
blow, but he received a desperate wound on the hand, and the
main artery of the thumb was completely severed. Mr. Rose,
a professional man, was called in, and he dressed the wound,
and it appeared that from the nature of the injury it was at
first feared that locked jaw would ensue. The pr ironer imme-
diately after he bad committed the act ran home to his father's
ahnodusfeo,uannddhi‘mVescto,
ntliceeacloend dstuanbleer the VofN
bed
atfo, and tookrd,proce hire
eded thither,
custody, and he underwent a preliminary examination before
Mr. Hippert, and was remanded until yesterday, when the
witnesses were fully examined, and the above facts appeared
in evidence. The prisoner, on being asked what lie had to
eemn.mt
gehhbet was
himself think going
Magistrates
staovi
desrtiytr earstluiainmma
tohesetitndi)
se-
rioustai into
saysay he replied
reugdl de thatstab
au,:vhhhi
he 4id not stand accused of the et line of murde-r. He was then
fully committed to Hertford Gaol to take his trial.

- _
Prince Christian of Denmark arrived at Munich on
he 22L1 ult.

CRUELTY TO ANIMALS DEFENDED.—UIDDIMS,
an °llicer of the " Animals' Friend Society" of Mark-lane,
having seen three idle fellows amusing themselves last week
by going about Smithfield with cudgels beating the asses in a
very savage way on their heads and bodies; he, with the assis-
tance of the police, took them into custody, when they were
obliged to be handcuffed and locked up all night ; and they
were taken before Sir Juhn Key and Alderman Farebrother.
Alderman Farebrother complained that " so many frivolous
cases were brought up, and alluded to his having just received
a long admonitory letter from Birmingham, relating to his de-
cisions," and putting him to an expense and lois of time ; after
waially advising Sir John Key on the necessity of dismissing
the cases, two of them were dismissed, and Gibbins declined
to bring the other forward. What can be expected from the
lower classes when Magistrates show such en example?