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London, England, 1801-02-18 00:00:00

CATHOLIC EMANCIPATION.

Lord HOLLAND rose, and made some obser,
*ations'upon a subject}, which, as it appeared to
originate in the Notice of a Motion given by
himon-4 a former evening, when, by Order, of the
liouse the strangers were excluded, we'arer una-
ble to detail with that accuracy we could wish.
Be observed, that upon the present occasion, ,he
hardly knew to whom to address himself; but he
,ikished to be -informed by any Noble Lord pre-
sent, at what rime they were, to expect the Mi.
ni,terial Arrangements -in contemplation to be
completedi- with a• view to obtaining satisfa&ory
information relative tO the produaion of the
Papers,, respeeting which he had given notice of
a Kotion' for Friday next : these, as we could
collect from the Noble Lord, were certain Com..
munications which passed, or were supposed to
have passed, between the Chairman of the Ca-
tholic Committee in "Dublin and the Ministers in
Ireland---the production of which he seemed to
wish for, previous to the discUssion of the gene_
sal subject of the State of the Nation on Monday
next ; on which he seemed to say, a thorough
understanding of the precise grounds on' which
the Catholic Affair stood, would throw a very
important light,

Lord AUCKLAND said, that understanding
it to be the Noble Lord's intention to move for
such instruaions as might have been sent to the
Irish Government respelling the Catholic Ques-
tion, he would take. this occasion to entreat
the Noble Lord not to recur to that Question,
otherwise than in some mode which might bring
the whole discussion fairly and completely before
Tarliament. The ne.Tssity of such discussion
was among the many calamities occasioned by
the late events. Hitherto he had deprecated the
discussion ; he now saw that it was unavoidable ;
he wished it therefore o he brought forward
temperately awl cautiously, hut with a 413°7
aition, whatever might be the diversity of opi-
;lions, to force those opinions to the test of rea-
son and of truth. It was a consideration too en-
larged to be blended with the other weighty sub_
je4 -of a -Motion for a Committee can the state of
the Nation, Whent ver a proper occasion should
;omit, he would endeavour to submit to their Lord-
ships ltis sentiments on the Catholic claims, which
11. e had learnt with suriirize, were to be consider-
ed - co,,seciver,ce of. the Irish Union,: He
was desirquifarther $q examine them as invglv-
Inv the wh'Ole Civil and Religious Es-tOlishment
pr great .ritaith And, lastly without me. ning

to avow or to bespeak any opinion, he should bc
filed to call to their Lordships attention the true
Principles of Toleration, and of that Alliance be..
tween Church and State, which (as has been well
expressed in another place) is not meant to make
the Church Political, but to make the State Reli-
gious.

In a more confined point olview be was desir-
ous, at a proper, time, to express his regret for a
difference of opinion on an essential, though spe-
culative, point of Government, which had sepa-
rated men from each other, who had been so long
habituated to ad together with perfed friendship,
and with a confidence not easy, perhaps not pos-
sible, to be transferred to others ; nor could he
allude to this without deploring, as he did with
his whole heart, that the British. Empire, in a
crisis of accumulating and thickening, difficulties,
should have suffered the dereliaion of those who
by their talents, experience, energy, and resources
of mind, were the best able to bring the arduous
struggle, for 'national independence and existence,
to a safe and honourable conclusion.

Some farther conversation passed between Lord
AUCKLAND and Lord HOLLAND, the result of
which seemed to be that a day should he named
in which Lord HOLLAND would move for the
Papers alluded to.
Several documents respeEting the state and ex_
ponces of the British Settlements on. the Coast of
Africa were presented and laid liefore the House,
after which an adjournment took place.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
TUESDAY, FEB. 57.
A Petition'was presented from the Prisoners in
Liverpool, praying for relief. The Petition was
ordered to lie' on the Table.
. Several Members were sworn in.
THANKS TO THE LATE SPEAKER.
Mr. ADDINGTON being in the House,
The SPEAKER addressed him in the follow.
ing terms ; •
" Mr. ADDINGTON, the House have resolved,
That' the. Thanks of this House, be expressed in
the strongest terms, to you, for the exemplry
and distinguished manner in which you performed
the Duties of Speaker during the whole period in
Which you,occupied the,Chair of the House ofCom.
mons ; that you be assured, that the proofs which
you have uniformly given of attaehment to the Con.
stitution, the steadiness with which you main-
tained the Privileges and Dignity of this House,
the ability, integrity, and unremitting attention
to Parliamentary business, which have so emi-
nently marked the whole of your Condud, justly
entitle you to our Approbation, RespeO, and Gra.
titude.
" If, Sir, I were to indulge my priv'te feel.
ings upon this occasion, I might expatiate at
great length upon this subject, but feeling, as
do, that it is impossible foe ale to add any 'thing
to that which is so well expressed in the Re-
solution of the House, and that any thing
which I might attempt to add would only weaken
that expression, I Allan •therefore content myself
with expressing to you tus Thanks of this House
in the words of the Resolution."
Mr. ADDINGTON replied " Sir, it is
with sentiments of the most respeCtful and heart..
felt gratitude, that I receive the testimony of
approbation . which yoti have communicated to
me, by the command of the House. To enjoy
their good opinion was the pride and comfort of
my life while I continued in their service ; to
receive, on•the present occasion, • such a proof of
it, is-the greatest honour, and most gratifying
reward I can receive. Being conscious allaying
discharged the duties of that important Office
with fidelity and zeal; I feel a satisfaaion which
am . not able to express, in being allowed to
indulge a hope that the Chair in which you, Sir,
preside, has not by my conduti lost any of that
dignity which is necessary, for the well regulated
freedom of Debate, and for the maintenance of
those Rights and Privileges of this House, which
lam sure, Sir, you will always maintain. To
you, Sir, my warmest acknowledgements are
due, for the manner in which you have commu.
nicated to me the Thanks of the House, and to
the House I owe every obligation of duty, vene-
ration and attachment, which can bind any indi.
viduid to the First PUblic Body in the World."
Mr. PITT moved, q That the Thanks of the
House,. communicated by the SPEAKER to the
Right Hon. listsstv Apo:No.l'oN, together with
his Reply, be printed in the Votes of the House."
Ordeietr. •
A person from the Custom.house presented
several Public Accounts.
Mr. ERN EY presented Petitions from the
Prisoners for debt in the Gaol of the Borough of
Southwark, and in the Gaol of the County of
Surrey, praying for relief.--Ordered to lie on
the 'fable.
• COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
Mr. BRAGGE brought up the Report of the
Committee of Supply,' and the Resolutions were
ordered to be read.
Mr. YOLLIFFE observed that there was a
considerable increase in the Army, particularly
in the Cavalry, which he thought highly ims
proper at a time when the price of Grain was so
high.—He hoped they were not to be sent to,
France, and it they were not, the inclosed state.
of this country was such, that they could be of
very little use at home.
itts. WINDHAM said, that under the pre.
sent state of affairs it had been judged necessary
to augment the Army ; it became proper to augs
incur the Cavalry in the same proportion ; this
increase was founded upon the opinions of Mili-
tary men, and he presumed the Hon. Gentleman
would not put his opinion in competition with
theirs As to the consumption of Oars,. it cer-
tainly could not be pot in competition with the
safety of the Country.
The Resolutions were then read and agreed to,
Mt. Witsnisism moved for leave to bring in a
dill Ipt punishing Mutiny and Desertion.-,s-Leave
was iven,