The Sun.
London, England, 1865-03-28 00:00:00

ME SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 28, 1865.

bill as it stood would be prejudicial to the interests of
small railways ; but upon a division the motion was nega-
tived by 21 to 18.
Their lordships adjourned at 20 minutes to seven o'clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONS-LAST EVENING.
The SPEAKER took tho chair at the usual hour.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The following bills were read a third time and passed :
—Hastings and St. Leonard's Gas, Oswestry Local Boai d,
Ross Improvement, Shrewsbury and North Wales Rail-
way, Holston Roads, King's Lynn Docks and Railway,
London and South Western Railway (Kensington, &c.),
and Lynn and Sutton Bridge Railway Bills. -

PETITIONS.
Mr. GILPIN presented petiti3ns in favour of opening the
British Museum and other national institutions on Sunday.
Col. EDWARDS presented a petition from Yorkshire in
favour of the bill to amend the law with respect to chemists
and druggists. . .

Mr HOGAN presented petitions from different parts of
Ireland praying for an amendment of the law of landlord
and tenant.

Sir S. NORTUCOTE presented petitions in favour of the
chemists' and druggists' bill.

Mr. BAINES. presented a petition against the bill to facili-
tate tho discharge of insolvent debtors.

ROYAL ASSENT.
Tho Deputy Usher of the Black Rod here entered the
house and summoned the Speaker and members to the
House of Peers to hear the Royal assent given by com-
mission to several bills agreed to by both houses of Parlia-
ment.

On the return of the SPEAKER,
Mr. WATKINS presented petitions in favour of the Che-
mists and Druggists Bill.
Sir F. KELLY presented a number of petitions in favour
of the ropeal_otele.malt,..t4k.
Mr. LocKE presented a petition against the Justices of the
Peace Procedure Bill.
CATHOLIC STUDENTS.
Mr. SCULLY moved for an address for copies of all
correspondence from the Ist day of January, 1864, up to
the making of the return, between tho Foreign-office in
London and her Majesty's representative at Brussels, or
between such representative and the Belgian Government,
or between the Foreign-office and the Belgian Minister in
London, or between the Foreign-office and the Home-
office, with reference to the bourses or endowments hereto-
fore provided for the education of Irish Catholic students
in the University of Louvain ; and of any memorial or
correspindence to or with the Foreign-office and the Home-
office respectively on behalf of Irish Catholics with refer-
ence to those bourses or endowments.—Agreed to.

BISHOP COLENSO.
Mr. DUNLOP asked the Secretary of State for the
Colonies whether„ looking to the recent decision of the
Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in the case of
Bishop Colenso, by which, with reference to colonies with
representative Legislature, or in which the Church of
England had not boon established by law, patents for the
erection of episcopal sees therein, purposing to confer
ecclesiastical jurisdiction, were pronounced to be contrary to
law, it was the intention of the Government to advise her
Majesty to abstain henceforth from issuing any more such
patents for colonies so situate, and also from nominating
successors under the existing illegal patents to bishops who
may die or resign, leaving the voluntary associations of
which such bishops wore the chief ministers to provide
successors according to the rules and canons they have
adopted or may adopt for the_ government of their own
non-established communions ; and particularly whether
this course would be recommended in reference to Canada,
where by an act of the Canadian Legislature to which the
Royal Assent was duly given, all connection between
Church and State has been expressly abolished.
Mr. CARDWELL said with respect to Canada the prac
tice of issuing patents has been discontinued. The bishops
there are selected by the Church in the colonies, and derive
their civil rights from the colonies. With reference to the
other matter referred to, the recent decision had led to the
necessity of giving that matter the most serious considera-
tion. No letters patent, however, would be issued until
that consideration has been brought to a close.
EPISCOPAL SEES IN THE COLONIES.

Mr. DUNLOP asked the Attorney-General to what
extent and effect, if any, patents erecting episcopal sees
in colonies having representative legislatures, or in which
the Church of England had not been previously by law
established, and purporting to confer ecclesiastical juris-
diction, were valid and operative ; and also to inquire
under what statutory or other authority the Queen, as
Sovereign of the United Kingdom, issued patents for the
erection of episcopal sees, in accordance with the religious
system established by law in only ono part of the United
Kingdom, England, in colonies which never were, at any
time, colonies of England, but hare been, from their origin,
British colonies.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said it was more diffi-
cult to say what these letters patent provided than wha.
they did not. It had been determined by the Judicial Coru
mittee that there were no legal dioceses in the colonies to
which the late inquiry related, and that the letter patent
constituted no legal connection between the Church in
these colonies and the united Church of England and
Ireland. It was further determined that the letters
patent granted to the bishop did not introduce into
these colonies any part of the ecclesiastical polity of Eng-
land, and that they gave no legal power to the bishops
which they might not have under the voluntary system.
He found also in the judgment that letters patent were not
valid to create ecclesiastical corporations which the colonies
were bound to recognise.
UNION CHARGEABILITY BILL.
Mr. VILLIERS, in moving the second reading of this
bill, said the union principle having been adopted for the
purpose of administration instead of the parochial system,
it was desirable that the same principle should be adopted
with regard to settlement and rating instead of retaining
these latter within the area of the parochial system. This
was the principle which the bill sought to
bring -into operation, and it was founded on
the results of several inquiries by committees
of the House of Commons and Royal Commissioners. It
had been contended, in some quarters, that the bill was in-
troduced to benefit the town population at the expense of
the rural districts, but this was altogether a mistake, as
such certainly was not the intention of the measure. The
late member for North Devon, he believed, was in favour
of the bill.
Sir R. KNIGHTLEY trusted that the question would
not be viewed in a party spirit. He objected to the bill
because it affected the value of every acre of land in the
country, and was of far too important a description to be
discussed by a moribund Parliament. He was therefore in
favour of postponing legislation, in order that the question
might bo submitted to their constituents at the next gene.
ral election. He also objected to the bill, not only because
it would interfere with property, but likewise because it
would injure the interests of the labouring classes, who, in
the dull seasons, would be driven to the union workhouse
instead of being assisted, as they now were, in their own
cottages. The President of the Poor-law Board was not,
in his opinion, competent to legislate on a question of this
nature, as he never saw a green field except from the win-
dow of a railway carriage, and knew no more about the
rural districts of England than of the interior of Africa.
In conclusion, the hon. baronet, moved as an amendment,
" That, considering the little knowledge this house pos-
sesses as to the practical working of the Irremovable Poor
Act of 1861, it is inexpedient, without further information,
to legislate on the subject of union rating during the pre-
sent session."
The amendment was seconded by Mr. BANKS-STA.NHOPE,
who contended that the bill would be an unjustifiable inter-
ference with property, and inflict irreparable injury upon
the poor of the rural districts.
Sir E. DERING also opposed the bill, on the ground
that it would relieve the ratepayers of the towns at the
expense of those in the country parishes. He suggested, as
a compromise, that the second reading should be postponed
until after the Easter recess, so that in the interim hon.
members might consult their constituents.
Mr. G. P. BENTINCK thought the house was not yet
in possession of sufficient information to legislate upon the
subject, and would consequently give his vote in favour of
the amendment.
Mr. HODGKINSON, in answering the arguments of
hon. gentlemen opposite, denied that the present bill was
a step in the direction of national rating. It was, he said,
nothing more nor less than an act of justice, and was
intended to adjust a burden which, in the lapse of time,
had become disarranged.
Sir W. JOLLIFFE gave a warm support to the bill, be-
cause he was persuaded, that it would prove a useful and
beneficial measure. Tho parochial system offered, ho
thought, a premium to the bad and dissolute labourer,
while it discouraged the good.
Lord HENLEY pointed out several instances of gross
injustice in his own union, and stated that, under tho pre-
sent system, two close parishes paid a poor rate of 6d. in
the pound, while others paid as much as 6s.
Mr. SCOURFIELD advocated delay, and Mr. J. TOLLE-
MACHE was of opinion that the bill would relieve heavily
burdened townships at the expense of others.
Mr. SCULLY and Mr. PUGH spoke in favour of the
measure, the late hon. gentleman expressing his willing-
' noss to sanction a much larger area of chargeability than
that contemplated by the bill.
Mr. FLOYER took an opposite view to that of the pre-
ceding speakers, arguing that union rating would lead to a
careless expenditure of the rates, as there would be no
longer that careful personal supervision on the part of local
guardians, without which the poor law could not be worked
effectively or charitably.
Mr. THOMPSON was quite prepared to vote in favour
Of union rating, but, inasmuch as the bill would cause a

larger transfer of property, he thought the House ought to
be put in possession of information as to the nature and
extent of that transfer. Ho recommended that the bill
should be postponed until next session.

r. T. T. BERNARD supported the bill, which was op-
posed by Sir J. Trollope, who contended at some length,
that it would be better to abolish the law of settlement and
removal altogether than to disturb the relations of pro-
perty and create ill-will between town and country.

Mr. NEATE admitted that the bill would effect the
transfer of a burden, but, as he believed it was just in prin-
ciple and would be useful to the community at large, he
would vote for it.

Mr. ADDERLEY urged the necessity of postponing
legislation until the house was in receipt of some better in-
formation than that set before it by Mr. Villiers.
Mr. WARNER was not prepared to go the length of
national rating, but he did not think county rating at all
too large.

The discussion was continued by Sir William Miles, Mr.
Walter, Mr. Sclater-Booth, and Sir R. Clifton.

Mr. HENLEY thought that Mr. Villiers had not dealt
candidly with the house in withholding information which
was in his department—he alluded to the amount at which
the parishes were rated two years since, and what the ex
penditure was last year. The statistical department could
then easily calculate what the rate and the expenditure
were in each union, and each parish in the union.

At midnight the adjournment of tho debate was moved
by Mr. Knight, and supported by Mr. Algernon Egerton
and Mr. Ferrand, but subsequently negatived without a
division.

The amendment was then put, and on a division the

numbers were—
For
• Against

0
_ Majority ....
The original motion was then put and agreed to, and the
bill was read a second time.

The report on supply was then brought up.
The orders of the day and the other business on the paper
having been disposed of, the honso then adjourned.

PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION.

HOUSE OF COMMONS-MARCH 27.
UNION CHARGEABILITY BILL.

Order for second reading read. Motion made and ques-
tion proposed, " That the bill be now read a second time."
Amendment proposed, to leave out from tho word " That',
to the end of the question, in order to add the words " con-
sidering the little knowledge this house possesses as to the
practical working of the Ir removable Poor Act of 1861, it
is expedient, without further information to legislate on
the subject of union rating during the present session."
Question put, !' That the words proposed to be loft out
stand part of the question." Tho house divided—Ayes,
203 ; Noes, 131.

AYES —2(3.
Anson, Major Gower, F. L. Paull, 11.
Anstruthcr, Sir R. Gower, G. W. L. Peel, Sir R.
Ayrton, A. S. Greavcs, E. Peel, F.
Bagwell, J. Greenall, G. Peto, Sir M.
Baines, E. Greene, J. Pinney, Col.
Baring, T. G. Greenwood, J. Pollard Urquhart W
Bathurst, A. A. Grenfell, H. R. Portman, W. H. B.
Bazley, T. Grey, Sir G. Powell, F. S.
Beaumont, S. Gurdon, B. Pritchard, J.
Beecroft, G. S. Hadfield, G. Pugh, D.
Berkeley, C. P. F. Hanbury, R. Repton, G. W. J.
Bernard, T. T. Handley, J. Robartes, T. J. A.
Black, A. Hankey, T. Roebuck, J. A.
Blake, J. Hardcastle, J. A. Rogers, J. J.
Bonham-Carter, J. Hartington,Marquis Rothschild,Baron M
Bouverie, E. P. Bay, Sir J. Russell, 11.
Brady, Dr Headlam, T. E. Russell, A.
Bramley-Moore, J. Henderson, J. Russell, Sir W.
Brude, Lord C. Henley, Lord St. Aubyn, J.
Bruce, Lord E. A. Hennessy, J. P. Salomonn,Aiderman
Bruce, H. A. Bibbed, J. T. Scholefieid,, W.
Buckley, Gen. Hodgkinson, G. 1-cott, Sir W.
Bury, Viscount Howard, C. W. G. Scrope, G. P.
Butler, C. S. Howard, Lord E. G. Scully, V.
Buxton, C. Ingham, R. Seely, C.
Caird, J. Jackson, W. Sheridan, R. B.
Cardwell, E. Jolliffe, Sir W. Smith, Augustus
Carnegie, C. Kekewich, S. '.17. Smith, J. B.
Castlerosse, Vist. King, P. J. L. Stacpoole, W.
Cavendish, Lord G. Kinglake, A. W. Staniland, M.
1 Childers, H. C. E. Kinnaird, A. F. Stanley, Lord
Churchill, Lord A. Lacon, Sir E. Stanley, 0.
Clay, J. Layard, A. H. Stansield, J. .
Clifton, Sir R. Lanigan, J. Steel, J.
Clive, G. Lawson, W. Stuart, Lt.-Col. W.
Cobbold, J. C. Leatham, E. A. Sturt, Lt-Col. N.
Coke, Col. Lefevre, G. J. S. Taylor, P. A.
Colebrooke, Sir T.E. Legh, Major C. Tollemache, F. J.
Collier, Sir R. P. Lewis, ii. Tollemache, J.
Cowper, W. F. Locke, J. Tracy, C. it. D.
Cox, W. Lowe, R. Turner, J. A.
Craufurd, E. 11. J. Lyall, G. Turner, C.
Crawford, It. W. M`Cann, J. Vandeleur, Col.
Dalglish, R. MacEvoy, E. Vernon, H. F.
Davey, it. Maguire, J. F. Villiers, C. P.
Dillwyn, L. L. Malcolm, J. W. Vyner, RA.
Dodson, J. G. Martin, P. W. Waluegrave-Leslie
Dun', 31. B. Martin, J. Waldron, L.
Duff, It. W. Merry, J. Walter, J.
Dunbar, Sir W. Miller, T. J. Warner, E.
Dundas, F. Mills, J. It. Watkin, E. W.
Egerton, A. F. Mitford, W. T. Watlington, J.
Egerton, E. C. Moffatt, G. Wegruelin, T. M.
Enfield, Viscount Moor, H. Westhead, J. P. B.
Ewart, J. C. Moore, C. Whalley, 0. li.
Fenwick, E. M. Morris, W. Whitbread, S.
Fenwick, H. Morrison, W. White, J.
Finlay, A. S. Mowbray, J, R. White, L.
Fitzroy, Lord P. Neate, C. Williamson, Sir H.
Fitzwilliam, C. W. North, F. Woodd, B. T.
Forster, C. O'Brien, Sir P. Woods, H.
Forster, W. E. Ogilvy, Sir J. Wyld, J.
Fortescue, C. S. O'Loghlen, Sir C. Wyndham, H.
Gibson, T. M. Padmore, R. Wyndham, P.
Gilpin, C. • Paget, C. Wyvill, M.
Gladstone, W. B. Paget, Lord C.
Glyn, G. G. Palmer, Sir R. TELLERS.
Goldsmid, Sir F. Palmerston, Visct. Brand, H.
Goschen, G. J. Papillon, P. O. Knatchbull-Hugess

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PRICE 4d.
STAMPED sd:

The Davenport Brothers,

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At the Liverpool county court, yesterday, Mr.
Sergeant Wheeler, the judge, was occupied in try-
ing an action brought by Mr. R. B. Cummins, the
hero of the now famous " tom-fool knot," against
Mr. Hime, who acted as the local agent for the
Brothers Davenport. Mr. Cummins claimed ss.
from Mr. Hime for money paid to witness a seance
announced by the Davenports, but which seance
did not take place. Mr. Bardswell, solicitor for
the plaintiff, delivered a long address, and read de-
scriptions of the several performances given in Liver-
pool, including that at which the cabinet was
smashed, and when the Davenports refused to go
on with their performances. The point on which
lie relied was that the Davonports had published ad-
vertisements promising that every person who paid
for a ticket and attended would witness a seance.
Mr. Pope, barrister, for the defence, contended that
there was no statement in the advertisements as to
what in particular would be done by the Daven-
ports ; that on the morning previous to the
evening in question, in consequence of the
interruption which had taken place on a
former evening, they advertised that they
should reserve the right to reject any committee
which might be appointed to tie them ; that when
Messrs. Hulley and Cummins were appointed they
did object; that afterwards they yielded, and agreed
to be tied by them ; and that in consequence of
what then took place they were unable to proceed
,as they had intended. Mr. Cummins, who was
severely cross-examined, stated that he took no part
in the row, and used every exertion to prevent vio-
lence. His Honour held that, though nothing defi-
nite was stated in the advertisements, it was under-
stood that séance was to include the usual " mani-
festations ;" that when the Davenports had agreed
to be tied by Messrs. Hulley and Cummins, although
they had a perfect right to reject any committee
that might be appointed, they pledged themselves to
fulfil their contract, and that, as they did not go on,
the contract was broken. He gave his decision for
the plaintiff for the amount claimed. It is under-
stood that, by friendly agreement between the par-

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ties, this decision is to guide Mr. lime in reference
to all the claims made by other persons seeking a
return of their money, amounting, we believe, to
upwards of 100.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

TATTERSALLS-MONDAY.

To-day there was another repetition of those " sensa-
tion" movements in connection with Breadalbane for the
Two Thousand Guineas. At the Victoria Club, in the
morning, there was a marked disposition to lay against him
at the commencement of business, when 2,200 to 110 was
booked; the next blow struck, however, was less deadly,
1,000 to GO being laid twice. At Hyde-park-corner the same
mystery prevailed, but despite the uncertainty as to the in-
tentions of his owner, he was again supported freely at
prices varying from 12 to 8 to 1, taken to about £1,500. All
sorts of rumours were afloat as to the final policy of Mr.
Chaplin with regard to his horse, but whoever ho or they
were that "knew anything," they kept their counsel well
while the industrious ones caaried on their operations.
Previous, as well as intending backers were in a dilemma,
but seeing so many " good " men supporting the horse for
money, they considered that they could not be far wrong
in following suit, and thus they " plunged " on him a
second time, 8 to 1 and 7to 1 having been taken kindly.
The finish, however, was a staggerer. A member who, in
his speculative transactions, is distinguished by his cool
disregard for the strict rules of betting, offered to take 100
to 15 about the Malton horse, odds with which he was ac-
commodated three times. Later on seven " fifties " were
laid on the quiet, but we may safely say that that price to
money would have been eagerly accepted. 100 to 30 was
offered against Liddington, but 4 to 1 was asked for in vain.
Chattanooga was somewhat unsteady, after nine " fifties''
were laid, 10 to 1 was his current price, taken to about
£5O. :For the Derby Breadalbane still holds his position
undisputed. 550 to 100 was taken in one bet, and until the
close of the room sto 1 was the highest offer on the field,
while 7 to 1 went bogging about Liddington, but not until
he had been backed to about £4OO at that price. It must not
be forgotten, however, that a gentleman who is reputed to
be generally in the secrets of the Russley stable laid eight
" ponies " twice, just immediately after the horse had been
supported at a point less. The Duke was in great demand
at 8 and 9 to 1, at which prices he was entrusted with very
good money ; but he failed to sustain his reputation, as
nothing short of 10 to 1 would satisfy the adherents of the
Marquis of Hastings' colours. The only other feature of the
Derby betting was the hostility against Chattanooga, who,
after 25 to 1 had been accepted about him to £3OO, de-
clined to 30 to 1 (taken to £100) offered until the room was
cleared.

NORTHAMPTONSHIRE STASES.
7to 1 agst Mr. H. Smith's John Davis (taken)
CITY AND SUBURBAN.
10 to 1 agst Mr. Merry's Mcestissima filly (taken and off)
25 to 1 agst Mr. Saxon's Lampoon (taken)
25 to 1 agst Mr. Kelso's Agatha (taken)
25 to 1 agst Mr. Osborne's Lady of Coverdale (taken)

CHESTER CUP.
12 to 1 agst Mr. C. Smith's Lion (taken)
20 to 1 agst Mr. Barber's The Clown (taken)
20 to 1 agst Mr. Montgomery's La Toucques (taken)
50 to 1 agst Mr. Hodgman's Victorious (taken)
66 to 1 agst Mr. W. Phillips's Persuasion (taken)

TWO THOUSAND.
100 to 30 agst Mr. Merry's Liddington (off, take 4 to 1)
100 to 15 agst Mr. Chaplin's Breadalbane (taken)
10 to 1 agst Mr. Naylor's Chattanooga (taken and off)
10 to 1 agst Sir J. Hawley's Bedminster (taken)
100 to 6 agst Lord Durham's Ariel (taken)
1000 to 30 agst Captain Gray's Audax (taken)

THE DERBY.

11 to 2 agst Mr. Chaplin's Breadalbane (taken)
7to 1 agst Mr. Merry's Liddington (taken and offered)
9to 1 agst Marquis of Hastings' Duke (taken and off)
100 to 6 agst Lord Stamford's Archimedes (off, take 20
to 1)
20 to 1 agst Mr. Mackenzie's Oppressor (offered, take
1000 to 45)
25 to 1 agst Mr. Mercy's Zambesi (taken freely)
30 to 1 agst Mr. Naylor's Chattanooga (taken and off)
50 to 1 agst Mr. Naylor's Congress (offered)

BETTING AT MANCHESTER—Mostar.
NORTHAMPTONSHIRE.
Bto 1 agst John Davis (taken freely)
9to 1 agst Skeffington (taken)
14 to 1 agst Hartley (taken)
33 to 1 agst Beaver (offered)
33 to 1 agst Lion (take 40 to 1)
CITY AND SUBURBAN.
10 to 1 agst Mcestissima filly (offered)
100 to 6 agst Agatha (take 20 to 8)
20 to 1 agst Lady of Coverdale (taken)
25 to 1 agst Lampoon (taken and offered)
25 to 1 agst Moldavia (offered)
THE TWO THOUSAND.
sto 1 agst Liddington (taken freely)
10 to 1 agst Breadalbane (taken and offered)
10 to 1 agst Chattanooga (take 11 to 1)
100 to 7 agst Ariel (taken)
100 to 7 agst Zambesi (taken)
300 to 15 agst Koenig (taken)
CHESTER CUP.
10 to 1 agst Lord Zetland (offered)
13 to 1 agst Lion (taken)
100 to 6 agst Ackworth (taken and offered)
25 to 1 agst La Toucques (taken)
25 to 1 agst The Grinder (take 30 to 1)
30 to 1 agst Victorious (take 1000 to 30)
33 to 1 agst Clown (taken)
40 to 1 agst Balham (taken)
DERBY.
11 to 2 agst Breadalbane (taken and offered)
15 to 2 agst Lidclington (taken)
9to 1 agst The Duke (offered)
18 to 1 agst Bedminster (offered)
20 to 1 agst Archimedes (taken)
20 to 1 agst Oppressor (offered)
2000 to 20 agst Pepper's Ghost and Arthur conplod.
(taken)

RUGBY HUNT AND GRAND MILITARY
MEETING—MONDAY.
The Challenge Cup, with 50 added, 12st 71b each. Threo

miles.
Major Ainslie's Remedy, 12st 71b ............(Mr. Hunter 1
Sir H. de Trafford's Jerusalem, 13st 71b (Capt. Tempest 2
Capt. P. Yates's Peeping Tom, 12st 71b —(Capt. Riddle 3
The following also ran :—Aladdin and Rantoone.
Betting—Even on Remedy, 3to 1 agst any other.
The Rugby Open Handicap Steeplechase of 10 soya each,
2 ft, with 100 added. About four miles. (23 subs.)
Mr. Bidgood's Rattlesnake, list 121 b (Owner) 1
Mr. Iven's Ladbrooke Lass, aged, list 71b.. (Mr Ellison•
2
Mr. Robson's Blackrock, aged, list 101 b (Owner • 8
The following also ran :—Deception, Simpleton, Tho
Czar, and Grey Mom Us.
Betting-2 to 1 agst The Czar, 3to 1 each agst Rattle-

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