The Sun.
London, England, 1865-05-31 00:00:00

ZEALAND.

In reply to Lord R. CEerry
Mr. CARDWELL said he had not the promised
.report
of the Governor of New Zealand on the subject of a petition
from Auckland, praying for the separation of the Northern
Province from the other provinces of New Zealand. The
final decision of her Majesty's Government on the subject
would not bo given until that report was received; but, as
at present advised, they saw no reason to give any en-
couragement to such a proposal.
ROMAN CATHOLIC LOTTERIES.
Mr. NEWDEGATE asked whether the attention of the
Attorney-General had been called to the large circulation
of lottery tickets for the disposal of various articles. Ho
had received them for the disposal of horses, carriages,
and other things, in aid of Roman Catholic objects.
(Laughter.) They had been circulated through the rail-
way companies, until they refused to allow their servants

to be so engaged, so now they were sent through the post.
He wished to know whether the circulation of these lot-
tery tickets was legal ?

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL asked the hon. member
to put his question on the paper for Thursday next.

COLONIAL ,DEFENCE.

On the motion for the adjournment of the house to
Thursday nest,

Mr. WARNER rose to ask the Secretary of State for the
Colonies what was the understanding between the home
Government and colonies possessing representative institu-
tions as to the defence of those colonies in any future war.
Referring to a question put on the previous evening, to
which he said he had received a very unsatisfactory an-
swer, the hon. member remarked that he had heard lately
that the Governor of Cape Colony had negotiated with the
Kaffirs to:endeavour to induce them to persuade or to com-
pel them to occupy and colonise some territory on the
other side of the River Kei. It appeared from the report
that this policy of the Governor with regard to the Kaffirs
was totally unconnected with the Colonial Legislature.
The right hon. gentleman (Mr. Cardwell) said that the Go-
vernor was acting under instructions from home, and that
there was no probability of any complication arising from
this policy, as it was not likely to lead to war. He (Mr.
Warner) was glad to hear that, but that was not the whole
of the question, for the colonists were of a different opinion.
They thought it would lead to war, and some of them no
doubt wore anxious that it should. The policy of this
country ought to be such as to throw the whole responsi-
bility of any complications on the Colonial Legislature.
Mr. CARD WELL was sorry that his hon. friend was
not satisfied with the explanation given last night, and
the more so as he seemed to have entirely misunderstood
one of the two statements that were made. His honour-
able friend evidently understood that the expenses of
maintaining the Kaffir war should be defrayed by the
mother country, with a small contribution from the
colonies. What he really said was, that the normal state
was that the colony should pay the principal part of the
expenditure. His hon. friend had also said that this
house had, in the course of the present session, passed an
Act of Parliament for the purpose ofincluding the territory
of British K.affraria within the territory of Cape Colony.
Now, he (Mr. Cardwell) was of opinion that placing colo-
nies under the sway of representatiye governments in which
they had no share was undesirable ; and if his hon. friend
would refer to the papers laid on the table during the pre-
sent session, ho would see it had been the desire of the
Governor of the Cape of Good Hope to avoid all extension
of territory.