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material wealth ; but if the principles hitherto acted
upon were maintained, they would come out of the
difficulty richer in everything that could elevate
them as a people. (Applause.) A vote of thanks
to Mr. Forster, for his conduct in Parliament, and
for his speech, was passed with acclamation, and
the meeting separated.

MR. BAX7E.II, M.P., ON PUBLIC- ATE AIRS.

Mr. Baxter, M.P., addressed his constituents

at Brechin and Forfar, on Thursday. His speeches
at both places were substantially alike, and
were chiefly devoted to a review of the national

expenditure. The hon. gentleman said—l am
happy to think that in this country there is none
of that venality and corruption so lamentably pre-
valent elsewhere—for example, among the officials

of the Russian despotism, as well as in the govern-

ment of countries democratically ruled like the

United States and Canada ; but the more the esti-

mates and public accounts are examined not in a

cheese-paring spirit—for I have no sympathy with

grudging a man a few pounds more salary, but in
the interest of a wise economy—the more it will be
found that we by no means in all cases get value

received, or need be at a loss to place our finger on
items susceptible of reduction. Apart altogether
from the number of men in the army and navy, and
the great question of the extent of our armaments,

were an able, earnest, and courageous financial re-
former permitted to prune the charges for the

arsenals, the gun-factories, the dockyards, the

whole establishments in fact for military purposes,

he might effect a very large saving in their cost.
One fact, which I mentioned in the house in the

debate on Mr. Stansfeld's motion, and which was
not contradicted, will bear repetition as illustrative
of this statement. A gentleman well informed on
such subjects told me in May that there were at
that time in Woolwich as many shells and cannon-
balls as would be sufficient for an arwy in the field
for three years, even if engaged every day ; and
that this enormous store was now totally useless in
consequence of the recent improvements in artillery,

which necessitated that all these projectiles should

be recast. Now, it is very difficult, if not impos-

sible, for any member of parliament, however care-
fully he examines the estimates, to prevent abuses
of this kind. You really want a sort of censor of
the departments whose business it should be to visit
all the public departments, keep down the extrava-
gance of their heads, and do in detail with the esti-
mates, which are made up about October, what the
Chancellor of the Exchequer is supposed to do with

them in gross, put a curb and limit on the expendi-
ture. First Lords of the Admiralty and Secretaries
of State for War are apt to magnify the importance,

and consequently the cost of their departments,
and they necessarily must take a great deal on
trust from subordinates, whose only aim is to lay
out in their several branches as much money as

possible. I am persuaded that a greater check than
ai presents on their proceedings is required,and that
man will perform a public service who can point out
an efficient remedy. As for the civil service esti-
mates I never look through them without wishing
the power for one year of applying the scissors,
subject to no hindrance from the influence of poli-
tical party or official red tape. There are so many
items that ought, in the opinion of disinterested
men, to be omitted altogether, and so many more
that ought to be much reduced, that not far from
a million sterling might be saved, not only without
injury, but with positive advantage to the nation.
This, however, cannot be effected by motions when
the house in committee, the power of the Govern-
ment being nearly always sufficient to inflict igno-
minious defeat on any member who calls in question
a particular item, because in a few cases above one
or two others in the house are in possession of the
requisite information to back him. The only good
effected by watching the estimates in detail is that
it prevents flagrant jobs and abuses, and serves as a
warning to those who have new plots on the public
purse. Mr. Baxter then referred to the part he had
taken in reference to the expenditure on the defence
of the colonies, to the mail subsidies, and Alderney
harbours, and then gave the following history of
Mr. Stansfeld's resolution :—ln June, Mr. Stans-
feld brought forward his resolution for a reduction
of the national expenditure, and I had the honour of
seconding his motion, which, although sneered at at
the time as coming too late as a party move, and as
too indefinite in terms,' believe did produce an effect
and may have a sensible influence on the esti-
mates for 1863. The noble lord at the head of the
Government, who scarcely seems to know the value
of money—at all events defends every scheme for
spending it without stint-s--did not venture to meet
that resolution with a negative, but contented him-
self with an amendment modifying the original
proposal. With regard to this movement on the
part of the advanced reformers, all sorts of erroneous
and exaggerated estimates were current at the time.
Because Mr. Disraeli, who had probably heard of
our design, expressed his opinion in favour of a re-
duction, we were accused of lending ourselves to a
hostile demonstration on the part of the opposition
—because our resolution did not take the shape of
want of confidence in the ministry we were accused,
on the other hand, of playing their game. Now,
the simple fact is, that a few independent members
of Parliament, quite irrespective of party aims or
consequences, conceiving that it would be their duty
next session, should circumstances remain unaltered,
to oppose such excessive estimates as had been
brought in for several years past, thought it only
right, before the season of 1862 closed, to give
natice, both to the Government and their constitu-
ents, of this intention. In our opinion, the time for
retrenchment had come ; and as honest men, we
wished publicly to staee our views, previous to
new estimates being prepared. Nor do we intend
to shrink from carrying them into practical effect
in 1863. After speaking in severe terms against
the "excessive armaments" lately in vogue, and
particularly against the fortifications, and after
giving some statistics of the increase of the war
establishment, Mr. Baxter said—for several reasons
I am very willing to take part in any notion which
would have the effect of upsetting the ministry ; but
should they be inconsiderate enough to propose esti-
mates for 1863 on a scale as vast as for the last few
years, I shall feel it to be my duty, as a faithful repre-
sentative, to give them every opposition in my power
without regard to the consequences. But I hope that
there will be no necessity for taking that course ;
indeed, it is scarcely possible to believe that a states-
man so influential and conscientious as Mr. Gladstone
who, no doubt, has gven an unwilling consent to cer-
tain parts of the policy of the Government, for the
sake of obtaining measures so beneficial as the com-
mercial treaty with France, and the repeal of the
paper duty, will not now insist upon that amount
of retrenchment which the welfare of the country
requires. There is no man more desirous of reduc-
ing taxation than he, and although it was wise and
politic for him to remain in office to accomplish great
objects, even while exposed to annoyance and mis-
represenhtion, there is a point beyond which men
of high principle and honour cannot be dragged at
the chariot wheels of a party ; and I have great
faith that he and other members of the Cabinet will
be successful in securing that considerable reduction
of an unnecessary expenditure which so many of
their supporters desire. There is nothing in the
world to prevent a diminution of at least five million
in the estimates, in which case the Chancellor of the
Exchequer might take 2d. a pound off the income-
tax, remit two millions of the duties on tea and
sugar; and have a million to spare for the unem-
ployed operatives of Lancashire, should a grant of
public money unfortunately be required to relieve
sufferings which have been so nobly and heroically
borne. And here, gentlemen, permit me to say
that every Briton must be proud of the demeanour
of the working men in the cotton districts, in this
the season of their calamity. It has already gone
far to new ralise the unpleasant impression produced
by the tyrannical isroceedings of thy: trades unions,
and ought to convince all impartial observers of the
progress which has been made in education, right
feeling, and good sense among the labouring classes
of late years. Mr. Baxter proceeded to advocate an
extension of the suffrage. He condemned the Go-
vernment policy in China, advised the Italians not
to be in a hurry to become possessed of Rome and
VBerneiechei,nanaa
and concluded. by expressing his approval of
the policy of non-intervention in the affairs of
I"lVOtieea,
Votes of thanks to Mr. Baxter were given both at

7HE NAVY.

The Spitfire, paddlewheel steaTiisloop, Com-
mander Bowden, from Woolwich for Bermuda,
with supernumeraries on board for the West Indian
squadron, arrived at Spithead yesterday eft route
for her destination.

A naval court martial assembled on Saturday on
board her Majesty's ship Victory, at Portsmouth,
for the trial of James Kent, a private in the Royal
Marines, formerly serving on board her Majesty's
gunboat Janus, in China, on a charge of having on
or about the 20th day of Feb., 1861, deserted from
the Janus. Capt. Cooke, of the Victory, was Presi-
dent, and Mr. E. Hoskins, Deputy-Judge-Advo-
cate. Evidence was adduced to show that the pri-
soner had absented himself from his vessel at the
date named, when granted leave to go on shore.
When the attack was made upon Tsing-poo by the

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Allies the prisoner was found there, and taken pri-
soner, and proclaimed himself to be zn English-
man. He was afterwards sent to England for trial,
on the charge of desertion. In defence the prisoner
alleged that he got tipsy when on shore t..t Shang-
hai on leave, and on recovering his senses found
himself on board a junk, about 30 miles from the
town. To save his life he was compelled afterwards

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to fight in the ranks of the Taepings or rebel army.
The Court found the charge of desertion not proved,

but was of opinion that the prisoner was absent
without leave, and sentenced him to six weeks' im-

prisonment with hard labour and to forfeit two

days' pay.
The Sutlej, screw frigate, Capt. M. Connolly,
fitting out at Portsmouth as the flagship of Rear-
Admiral J. Kingscombe, for the Pacific, has been
removed from the steam basin to alongside the dock-

yard to complete her poop and receive stores. She
will shortly be ready to sail, and will probably call
in Plymouth Sound to embark the Admiral on her

way down Channel.
The Hero, 89, line-of-battle screw steamship
600-horse power, Capt. Alfred P. Ryder, recently
from the North American and West Indies station,
was paid off in No. 3 dock in Sheerness yard on
Saturday last, under the superintendence of
Captain Charles Wise, A.C.Q., captain superin-
tendent of the yards. The Hero is to be examined
in order to discover the nature of the leakage and
the necessary repairs, when she will be placed at
moorings in the harbour, and entered in the 3d
division of the Sheerness steam reserve.

The Goyser, 5, paddiewheel steam sloop, 280 horse
power, Commander Colin A. Campbell, left Sheer-
ness for Plymouth with the portion of the officers,
crew, and marines of the Hero, belonging to that
port. Tile Medusa, tender to the Cumberland, also
left at the same time for Portsmouth, with the por-

tion belonging to that neighbourhood, and the
Lizard conveyed the Chatham and Woolwich divi-
sion to Chatham and Strood station, on the North
Kent Railway, for Woolwich.
The Arethusa, 51, screw steam frigate, 3,141 tons,
500 horse power, has been removed from her moor-
ings in Standgate-creek, and placed in the basin in
Sheerness yard, to be fitted for the Ist division of
the steam reserve, She will take the place of the
Leander, 51, which is ordered to be commissioned.
Admiralty instructions were on Saturday received
at Woolwich, ordering the transfer of Ist and 2d-
class lads from the flagship Fisgard, Commander
Lysaght, to be made in future in the Wellesley
training ship, in ordinary at Chatham, instead of to
the Implacable, at Devonport, as heretofore. The
number is not to exceed 30 per week.
Sir Fred. Nicotson, C. 8., senior officer at Wool-
wich and superintendent of the Dockyard, went
down to Greenhithe on Saturday, and mustered the
crew of the Spitfire, under orders to sail that day
for Portsmouth, on her way to Bermuda.
The Dromedary, Master Commander Brown, re-

:limed to Woolwich on Saturday from an engineer•

ing trial trip down the river. The trial was suc
cessful. During the prevalence, however, of the fog,
she sustained some slight damage from a collision.
Considerable surprise is expressed by many naval
officers at the tenour of a recent order issued from the
Controller's department of the navy, directing that
in future all new ships of war and in the steam
reserves shall have their boats fitted exclusively with
the Kynast on disengaging hook. This order effec-
tually excludes the Clifford boat-lowering system
from being in future fitted to any boats in her Ma-
jesty's navy. Without any desire to decide upon
the merits of rival inventions, we must take the
liberty of saying that Mr. Clifford's boat-lowering
system has rendered good service in too many in-
stances to be thus disposed of.
The Lords of the Admiralty have sanctioned an
exchange of divisions between Capt. E. G. M'Cal-
lum, of the Chatham division, serving on board the
Doris, 32, 800-horse power, and Capt. J. Shute, of
the Plymouth division, serving on board the Topaze,
51, 600-horse power.
The Captain's good service pension, placed at the
disposal of the Lords Commissioners of the Admi-
ralty, by the promotion of Capt. W. H. A. Morshead,
C. 8., to the rank of Rear-Admiral, has been given
il• Glasse C. 8., commanding the
t Bermuda.
Ttoereraeprtfl.
eFat.inHg.
battery, at
The Captain's good service pension vacant by the
recent promotion of Capt. It. Collinson, C. 8., to flag
rank, has been given to Capt. J. Willcox, C.B.
The detachment of Royal Marines and Marine
Artillery, numbering 112 men of all ranks, selected
for service on board the line-of-battle screw steamer
Meeanee, 81,400-horse power, Capt. G.Wodehouse,
fitting for service in the Mediterranean, was in-
spected at he-idquarters, Chatham, on Saturday, by
Lieut.-Colonel Rodney. The officers selected to em-
bark with the detachment are Capt. A. C. J.
M'Meekan, First Lieutenant J. M. O'Connor, and
Second Lieutenant B. A. S. Marshall.
The augmentation of the force stationed at the
camp at Colchester is not now expected to take
place before the commencement of next year. An
additional depot will be added to each battalion,
and not another battalion, as was originally an-
nounced. Lieut. Chapman, of the 54th Regiment,
has been granted leave of absence to Feb. 7.
51, recently lengthened 60
Dockyard, is ordered into Key-
ham-basin gttone
pt
receivee Constance,r
her engines
e ngines and machinery.
The Controller-General of the Coastguard, Com-
modore Hastings R. Yelverton, C. 8., who is making
a tour of inspection in the screw steam vessel Argus,
left Fowey on Friday and in the evening arrived
at Plymouth, where he continued until yesterday
(Sunday) morning, when he left for a visit to Dart-
mouth and other eastern ports.
The following appointments were made on Satur-
day at the Admiralty:—Lieut. Cavendish G. Har-
vey, to the Blenheim ; Lieut. the Hon. Fred. O'B.
Fitzmaurice, Lieut. Augustus Tarbuteau, Lieut.
John L. Way, and Lieut. Compton E. Domvile, to
the Meeanee ; Sub-Lieut. Charles W. Talbot, to the
Sutlej ; Sub-Lieut. J. W. Harvey, Sub-Lieut. F. K.
Bromilaw, and Sub-Lieut. E. A. F. Baxter, to the
Meeanee ; John E. Price, second master, to the
Meeanee ; Arthur Wallis, master's assistant, to the
Meeanee ; George Aiteheson, chief engineer, to the
Meeanee ; J. J. Blundin, engineer, to the Meeanee ;
D. Campbell, Ist class-assist.-engineer, to the Cum-
berland for the Carnation; W. C. Batty, acting Ist
class assist.-engineer, to the Meeanee ; T Griffiths,
acting 2d class assist.-engineer (for temporary ser-
vice), to the Meeanee, and H. Burstow, 2d class
assist.-engineer, to the Meeanee.

" The Austrian railways," says the Nord, " are
going on badly. The receipts of the Northern line have
been 585,100 florins
(of 3f. 75c.) less than during the
first ten months of last year, that is 4% per cent. On the
State Railway the difference is 12 per cent., or
2,200,000 florins. The Theiss line produced in the
month of October 74,000 florins less than in the
corresponding month of 1861; its total receipts
during the first ten months of the year show a falling
off in 1862 of 429,087 florins. The principal cause of this
sad state of things is the almost complete stagnation in the
export of corn."
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Chest Preservatives,—At all seasons of the year the rate of
mortality from diseases of the lungs is very great. Hollo-
way's ointment well rubbed upon the chest, aided by his
pills, arrests all mischief. These cleansing medicaments
exercise the most salutary and restorative influence over the
entire contents of the pectoral cavity. Air-tubes, nerves,
bloodvessels, and all other tissues feel their wholesomely
potent power, more particularly in their thoroughly purify-
ing both venous and arterial blood, by promoting the free
circulation of air. Neither ointment nor pills contain any
noxious ingredient whatsoever, but th
nourish rather than irritate the system) and lskindly subdue
eir baamic natures
all untoward symptoms till all is well once more.

FEARFUL COLLIERY EXPLOSION.

LOSS OF SIXTEEN LIVES.

NEWCASTLE, SATtiRtIAY AFTERNOON.

This morning, considerable excitement prevailed
at Walker, a village on the Tyne, situated midway'
between shields and Newcastle., on it becoming
known that a serious accident had occurred at the
colliery, by which the lives of several of the pitmen
had been sacrificed. The collietyi which is the
property of Messrs, Lambert and Co., consists of
two pits, one the Ann pit, situated in the village
of Walker, and the other the Jane pit.—the latter
being about half a mile to the south of the former.
The Ann pit is the down-cast, and the Jane the
up-cast or furnace pit. About 2 o'clock this morn-
ing a party of 24 men went down the Ann pit to
work, some of them had to attend to a " trouble"
which had been come to in the workings. Between
five and six o'clock, Chas. Robson, who was acting
as banksman at the Ann pit, was startled by a rush
of air taking place up the shaft, accompanied by
some straw and dirt. He at once gave the alarm. In
a few minutes afterwards Mr. Cole, the resident
viewer, and Mr. Robinson, overman, together with
a party of about 20 men, arrived at the colliery, and
went down the pit, when they found that it had
fired at the north part of the working. They like-
wise found that the stoppings, &c., connected with
the ventilation of the pit had been carried away and
destroyed by the force of the explosion, and also
that there was considerable fire-damp in the work-
ings. Happily, a number of men in the pit at the
time of the accident were some distance from the
scene of the explosion, and near to the shaft of the
Jane pit. These accordingly came up at once. They
appeared to have suffered a good deal from the effects
of the after-damp. .

Further in the, workings, Vim. Burrell, a boy,
James Haswell, pitman, arid John Holt, rolley-way-
man, were found to be dead. The bodies were re-
ported to be very much burned. The body of Holt
was lying to the north of the shaft, and that of the
boy Burrell to the west of the workings. Haswell
and bolt are both married, and have each left a wife
and family to lament their loss.
_ _ _

It was also found that the stables had been on
fire, and that the horses, ten in number, and the
ponies, 24 in number, were dead. The animals were
reported to be much burnt.
At half-past 2 o'clock, when our report left, vigo-
rous exertions were continuing to be made to arrive
at the unfortunate men who were still in the work-
ings. It was doubted that it would be some hours
before they could be reached. No hopes of their
being alive were entertained.

SIX O'CLOCK P.M.

The loss of life by this calamity, as far as can be
ascertained to-night, is 16 men and boys. The names
of the poor fellows are—

John Holt, married, and leaves a family.
Jas. Haswell, married, widow and four children
William Burrell.
Martin Facton, wife and two children.
William Barnes. wife and two children.
George Watson, widower.
Joh❑ Moore, married man.

John Miller, left a mother dependent upon him.
John Hetherington, single.
Joseph Forster, married man, but his family are
grown up.

John Mitcheson, wife and four children.

George Barnes, unknown whether married or
ngle.

Four boys, whose names we have not yet ascer

,ained.

Brought up alive.—John Wilson, George Mit-
ford, John Shields, Thomas Collins, Robert Barnes,
John Knox, William Jobling, Giles, Thomas
Holt, Henry Holt, James Chambers.
Six of the bodies have been found and will be
brought to bank in coffins sent down for the pur-
pose to .night ; and when the ventilation is a little
further restored search will be made for the missing
bodies. The accident occurred through Holt firing
a shot while making a drift through e " trouble.'
Had the pit been in full working the loss of life
wculd have been terrible.

CATHOLIC DEMONSTRATION A 7
BLACKHEATH.

On Sunday, the 16th inst., printed notices were
freely distributed at the doors of the various ca-
tholic places of worship in the metropolis to the
effect " that on Sunday, the 23d (yesterday), the Ca-
tholics of London would unite with those residing
in Deptford and Greenwich in holding a public de-
monstration of sympathy with the Holy Father on
Blackheath." The notice especially invited the at-
tendance of Irishmen, and appointed Bermondsey-
square as the rendezvous of the London division.
This notice had during the past week created con-
siderable excitement amongst the Catholic body, and
the object was almost universally condemn ed by the
clergy and respectable laymen as inopportune and
unwise. So strong was the feeling amongst the
higher Catholic clergy against the proposed demon-
stration, that special reference was ordered to be
made on the subject at most of the Catholic chapels
yesterday morning, cautioning the members of the
church from attending. At 1 o'clock yesterday
about 10,000 Irishmen, amongst whom were many
respectably dressed men, assembled in Bermondsey-
square, where also a strong body of the M division
of police, under Inspector Reed, had been previously
posted. An attempt was at once made by the Irish-
men to organise themselves into a procession for
the purpose of marching to Deptford, but this was
frustrated by the police. About 2,000 persons,
however, arrived at Blackheath, somewhat in the
form of a procession at a few minutes before 4
o'clock, where from 8,000 to 10,000 people had been
for some time assembled, among whom were a body
of Irish labourers connected with Woolwich dock-
yard, and a large number of soldiers belonging to
the Artillery and Marines, regiments largely re-
cruited from the sister country, but the great body
evidently drawn together by curiosity, and, if sym-
pathisers at all, not with the Pope or his supporters.
On the road immediately opposite the entrance to
Greenwich-park the leaders took possession of a
mound situated in the middle of a hollow, their
followers closing round with great promptness, and
effectually preventing any other person gaining a
footing upon it had they been inclined to make the
attempt. No bludgeons or sticks were carried in
the procession. About 200 of the R division of
police were drawn up on the heath, opposite the
park gates, but they made no attempt to interfere
with the proceedings. The business of the meeting
commenced by a Mr. Looney coming forward and
asking all Irishmen present to take off their hats
and 'give three cheers for the Pope. This appeal
was responded to amidst loud cheering by about
one-fourth of the crowd, and was followed by loud
hissing from another portion. Mr. O'Leary having
been called on to preside, Mr. Mylie, of Deptford,
came forward, and said he stood there as an Irish-
man and a Catholic to maintain the temporal power
of the Holy Father against all assailants. He then
went on to denounce the late attempt of Garibaldi
to conquer Rome, and praised the conduct of those
of his countrymen who had signalised their devo-
tion to the Pope in Hyde-park. He concluded by
proposing a resolution in favour of the temporal power
of, and sympathising with, the Pope in his present
troubles. Looney seconded the resolution in a violent
speech, in which he stigmatised Garibaldi as a
tyrannical, heretical, buccaneering, unprincipled,
and piratical filibuster, well deserving the fate he
met with in his late unholy expedition. This opi
nion was received with tremendous cheering from
the Irishmen, and by loud hissing and laughter from
the other portion of the crowd. Several other
speakers having supported the resolution in speeches
abusive of Garibaldi and his principles, the chair-
man declared the resolution carried unanimously,
andimmediately declared the meeting dissolved.
The Irishmen then reformed into a procession and
proceeded homewards.

A NEGRO LYNCHED AND BURNED.—The Balti-
more American of the 3d of November has a letter from
Dalton, Caroline county, giving an account of the lynching
of a negro, under arrest for the outrage and murder of a
little girl, daughter of Edgar Plummer. A large
numbs"
of excited people came into town, surrounded the jail, forced
open the doors, took the prisoner, and hanged him. While
cut
down, 15 bullets perforated his body. He was
and his throat cut by the infuriated mob. The body
was dragged through the streets, and finally taken in front
of the negro church, where it was cut to pieces and burned.