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CIVIL CONTINGENCIES.

The house then went into Committee of Supply, when
a vote of 50,0001. was taken on account of civil contingen-
cies, and the house again resumed.
CUSTOMS, &c., ACTS.

The CHANCELLOR of the , EXCHEQUER said he
wishod tho house to go into committee on tho Customs as
well as tho. Assessed Duties Act. His object was to give

effect to the intention he had stated of passing the resolu-
tions relating to the assessed taxes in a general form, in
order that he might bo enabled to bring in a bill and place
the plan before the house in a more complete shape than
could be done in the form of resolutions.

The resolutions having been put from the chair,
Mr. C. BERKELEY wished the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer to explain the manner in which the clog tax was to
apply to packs of hounds. (Laughter.) Would a master
of hounds be assessed 12s. for each hound, or would he be
permitted to compound for his pack, as heretofore?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, in
roply, that when the bill came before the house, the hon.
gentleman would find that it did not alter the existing
system as regarded the assessments for packs of hounds.
(Hear, hear.) _ _

Sir F. KELLY wished it to be distinctly understood,
that members on the Opposition side allowed the resolu-
tions to pass unquestioned merely to facilitate the progress
of public business, and that they would feel themselves at
liberty to oppose the bills founded upon them when they
should be introduced.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER took that
opportunity of stating that he had that evening placed on
the table an amended copy of the Customs resolutions,
which would be printed and circulated to-morrow.
_ _

Mr. BRIGHT hoped the right hon. gentleman would
consider the propriety of getting rid of the absurd duties
upon armorial bearings and hair powder. (Laughter.) Of
course, he could have no personal interest in the matter—
(a laugh)—but the duties in question were not unfrequently
the cause 'of annoyance and vexation to individuals. A
person would sometimes seal a letter with a seal bearing
the impress of some animal which could not be found in
the earth or out of tho earth, and forthwith he was called
on by the surveyor to pay the tax on armorial bearings.
When we were levying taxes to the amount of 50,000,0001. or
60,000,0001. a-year we ought to discard paltry items, which
tended to make our financial system ridiculous. (Hear.)
Colonel SIBTHORP rose from the front Opposition
bench, and was received with cheers. He rose to suggest
to the Chancellor of the Exchequer that he might confer
great benefit upon native industry by imposing a heavy
duty on foreigners. (Great laughter.) It was lamentable
to see the large sums of money which were carried out of
this country by opera dancers and opera singers. These
persons were encouraged too much to the great detriment
of native talent. (Laughter, and hear, hear.) It mattered
little whether these foreigners had characters or not, they
obtained large sums of money, which they carried home
with them, and then they laughed at the English for being
such fools. (Hear, hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped ho
might be excused for abstaininc, at present from stating
anything definite with respect to the suggestions which
had proceeded from the hon. member for Manchester and
the gallant colonel.
The resolutions were agreed to.
The house then resumed.
The Whichwood Forest Bill was read a third time and
passed.

EXPENSES OF ELECTIONS BILL.
Mr. C. BERKELEY moved the second reading of this
bill.

Colonel SIBTHORP thought that this measure partook
of a low and mean chP.racter. It was a portion of the
" cheap and nasty" system, so much in vogue at present.
(A laugh.) All these so-called reform measures were
brought forward from a professed regard to purity ; but ho
believed, if the truth could be known, that they originated
in a desire on the part of hon. members to save their own
pockets. Expenses at elections! Ho wished elections were
more expensive, and then there would be better company
in the house. (Cheers and laughter.) Pass what bills they
pleased, he would not bo deterred from exercising old
English hospitality. There was much truth in the old
saying, in vino veritas, for when a man opened a bottle he
usually opened his heart along with it. (Laughter and
hear.)
The bill was then read a second time.
RYE ELECTION WRIT.
The adjourned debate upon the issue of the writ for a
new election for the borough of Ryo was then resumed.
To the question that the writ be issued, an amendment
had been moved for postponing the writ to the 27th of
May.
Lord PALMERSTON said, there was no objection on
the part of the Government to the issue of the writ, but it
was for the house to decide. The evidence did not appear
sufficient to lead to the disfranchisement of the borough,
and if the writ were further postponed it must be with the
view of bringing in some measure for that purpose. There
had been no notice of any such intention on the part of
any hon. member, and he should accordingly offer no op-
position to the issue of the writ.
Mr. BASS rose, amid loud cries of " Spoke !" and
" Chair."

The SPEAKER asked if the hon. member had moved
the adjournment of the debate when the debate was last
adjourned?

Mr. BASS replied in the negative.
The SPEAKER therexpon stated that the hon. mem-
ber, having before addressed the house upon the point at
issue, was not now entitled to speak.
Mr. BASS again rose for the purpose of making a re-
mark, but was met by loud cries of " Chair," and resumed
his seat.

Sir d: V. SIIELLEY, in order to give fair play to the
hon. member for Derby, moved that the house do now
adjourn. (Oh !)
Mr. BASS, rising, said—" I second the motion," and
immediately resumed his seat amid the laughter of the
house. Being
thpe m ar apently rem y
made
to enable
b some hon. friend
near him that motion was him to make
his statement, the hon. member sprung to his legs ; but—
conMdred Gth°oTjinLoßtiljonit,ll said,
and having res d
the hon. gentleman having se-
now entitled to rise and address thtlemheouse sagseaaihint,. wr;duncoht
laughter.)
Mr. BASS, who again rose amid cries of " Spoke,"
" Chair," and, laughter, said that all he 41;444 was to

give notice that he shonld ask for leave to introduce a bill
for the disfranchisement of the borough of Rye. (Hear.)
Sir J. V. SHELLEY—I withdraw soy amendment for
the adjournment cf the house. (Cries of "No !" and
" Divide !")
The house divided—
For the adjournment of the house 52
Against it lO3

Majority against the ad j ourn mit ... 141
On our readmission to the gallery, we found
Mr. FREWEN addressing the house. He said the evi-
dence taken before the committee was very voluminous,
and hon. members had notyet had an opportunity of read-
ing it. He was therefore in favour of the postponement of
the writ.
Lord P.A.LATERSTON said, lie had been misunderstood
in what had fallen from him on the subject of the new
writ. What he had said was that, on the part of the Go-
vernment, ho was not prepared to oppose the issue of the
writ. He had stated that, in the general course of pro-
ceeding, writs were not postponed, except with a view to
ulterior proceedings ; but the house would recollect that
all the members of the committee stated that there was no
ground for disfranchisement. There appeared, therefore,
no ground for postponing the writ.
Mr. MILES supported the issue of the writ.
Colonel KNOX, as a member of the committee which
had inquired into the case, was sorry to differ from the
right hon. gentleman who presided over that committee on
this subject. It had been proved that a most vicious sys-
tem of loans had been carried on for years in the borough,
and it was notorious that the borough was treated for sale
in the market. If the writ were allowed to issue after the
strong report of the committee, the house might as well
state they would issue the writ in every case that came
before them. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. J. PHILLIMORE entirely concurred with the lion.
and gallant member who had last spoken. If this writ
were allowed to issue, the house would expose itself to the
charge of hypocrisy in the measures they had taken for the
repression of corrupt practices.
Mr. TUFNELL considered that the only safe course
was to go by the opinion of the committee. The majority
of the constituency of Rye appeared to be as pure as any
constituency could be, and, as it was idle to suppose that
there was any chance of passing a bill for disfranchising
the borough, he was decidedly of opinion that it was the
bounden duty of the house not to keep the constituency
any longer from the exercise of their electoral privileges.
(Hear, hear.)
Sir F. KELLY had always been of opinion, and Must
always act upon that opinion, that it was neither constitu-
tional nor just in this house to suspend the issue of a writ
unless with a view to some ulterior measure, which might
end in the disfranchisement of the borough.
The LORD-ADVOCATE, as a member of the committee,
entirely concurred in the opinion which had been ex-
pressed by the right lion. gentleman who had acted as its
chairman, and should support the motion for the issue of
the writ.

After a few words of explanation from Mr. BASS, amid
loud cries of "Order" and calls for a division,
Lord A. VANE must say that a great many debates on
these subjects might have been avoided if the Government
had brought forward a measure laying down some rule
upon which the house might proceed upon these occasions.
(Hear, hear, and cries of " Divide.") He meant to move
the adjournment of the debate. (Oh, oh !) He thought
it was too late an hour to discuss the question of the issue
of the writ. He considered this was a case in which the
writ ought not to issue, for the evidence of corrupt prac-
tices taken before the committee had been as strong, if not
stronger than in any other case which had been inquired
into. (Hear, hear.) He begged to move the adjournment
of the debate. (Oh, oh !)
On the question that this debate be now adjourned,
Sir J. PAKINGTON expressed a hope that the noble
lord would not divide the house. (Hear, hear.) He
looked on it as a simple question of justice ; and as he
thought there were no grounds for disfranchising the
borough he must vote for issuing the writ.
Lord SEAHAM always made it a point on former occa-
sions to vote with the chairman of the committee reporting
the case to the house, but on this occasion he must vote on
a different principle.
Mr. BASS was authorised to state, that not only had
Mr. Jeremiah Smith the borough of Rye in his hands, but
that he had offered it for sale on several occasions.

The house divided—
For the motion llB
Against it

Majority
The writ was accordingly ordered to be issued.
MERCHANT SHIPPING BILL.

On the motion of Mr. CARD WELL, the house -went into
committee on this bill.

Mr. CARDWELL stated that his object was to get that
portion of the bill through committee to which no objec-
tion was to be made, in order that public business might
advance.

Sir F. KELLY was quite willing to assent to the pro-
posal of the right honourable gentleman by allowing the
bill to be committed pro fornui, that it might facilitate
the dispatch of public business.
Captain SCOBELL said, he had an amendment to pro-
pose which would take much time to explain, and he con-
sidered the bill of too much importance to begin a dis-
cussion upon it at half-past twelve o'clock ; he, therefore,
moved that the house adjourn.
Mr. CARDWELL thought it would be for the conve-
nience of honourable members who had amendments to
propose that those portions of the bill which were not
objected to should pass through committee.
Mr. DIGBY SEYMOUR had amendments to propose,
and objected to the bill being proceeded with ; he, there-
fore, moved that the chairman report progress, and ask
leave to sit again on Thursday next.
After a short conversation between Mr. CAUDWELL and
Mr. HUDSON, _ .

The House' resumed, the Chairman reported progress,
and obtained leave to sit again on Thursday.

BOROUGH OF MALDON.

Mr. T. CHAMBERS moved that the Speaker do issue
his warrant to make out a new writ for the electing of two
burgesses to serve in the present Parliament for the bo-
rough of Maldon, in the room of Charles Ducane, Esq.,
and Taverner John Miller, Esq., whose election had been
determined to be void.

Lord It. GROSVENOR said, that an address to her
Majesty praying that a eommisP,ion should be issued to
inquire into the proceedings at the late election for Maldon
having been agreed to by the House of Commons, and
having been sent up to the House of Lords, he thought it
would not be right that the house should agree to issue a
new writ for that borough.
Lord PALMERSTON thought that, under the circum-
stances, it was impossible for the house to agree to .the
motion for the issuing of a writ, there being an address to
her Majesty at • this moment before the other House of
Parliament on the subject of the election at this borough.
Mr. T. CHAMBERS consented to withdraw the motion.
The motion was withdiawn.
INCOME TAX BILL.

The bill was brought up and read a first time. Second
reading on Friday.
CUSTOMS' DUTIES BILL.

This bill was read a first time. Second reading on
Thursday.

PLYMOUTH ELECTION.
On the motion of Mr. AGLIONBY, the evidence taken
before the committee was ordered to be printed.
The house adjourned at a quarter to 1 o'clock.

PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MAT 13.

(From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of
Concur 011.8. )
RYE WRIT.

Question proposed, " That Mr. Speaker do issue his
warrant to the Clerk of the Crown to make out a now writ
for the electing of a Baron to serve in this present Parlia-
ment for the town and port of Rye, in the room of Wm.
Alexander Mackinnon, Esq., whose election has been de-
termined to be void." Amendment put, "To leave out
from the word ' That' to the end of the question, in order
add the words no new writ be issued for the town and
port of Rye until Friday, the 27th of May,' instead
thereof." Qr_estion put, " That the words proposed to be
left out stand part of the question." Ayes, 118; Noes, 99.

MAJORITY-AYES, 118

A'Court, C. Gladstone, William Palmerston, Viscount
A dair, 11. Gladstone, Captain Pechell, Sir George
Aglionhy, IL A. Goodman, Sir G. Peel, F.
Atherton, Wm. Gc.ailburn, H. Pennant, Col.
Baring, Sir F. Gregson, Samuel Phillips, John Henry
Berkeley , Hon. C. F. Grenfell, C. l'hinie Thomas
Boyle, Col. Grosvenor, Lord R. Pir.ott, Francis
Brandame T. W. Hayter, W. G. Pilkington, Jame,
Bread, H. Herbert, 11. A. Ponsonby, lin.A..G J.
Broeklehurst, John Hervey, Lord Alfred Power, N.
Brockman, E. L. Heywood, James Price, Sir R.
Browne, V. Hindley, Charles Price, W. I'.
Bruce, Lord E. Hughes, W. 11. Itussal, F. C.
huller, Sir J. Y. Ingham, h obert Russell, F. W .
Burrell, Sir C. M. Keating, Robert Sachet% J.
Cairns, EL M`Caluiont Kelly, Sir F. Sawle, C. B. G.
Cardwell, E. Klugscote, H. N. F. Smith, lit. 11n. R.
Cavendish, C. C. Langston, J. B. Smith, J.
Chambers, Thomas Langton, W. G. Stnollett, A
Charteris, F. Lowe, R. Stafford, Marquis
Clinton, Lord It. Macgregor, James Strutt, Edward
Cobbett, J 31. M'Taggart, Sir J. Tancred, 11. W.
Cockburn. Sir Alex. Mathis, Richard Towneley, C.
Collier, Robert P. Manners, Lord G. Tudway, R.
Corry, H. L. 3lasterman, John Turner, C.
Cowper, W. Miles, W. Tyler, Sir George
Crcok, J, Mills, T. Vernoti.G. E. 11.
Crowder, R. Michell, W. Wells, W.
1/a rymplo, Vie. Moffatt, G Whit bread.'Samuel
Davies, D. 31onck, Lord Williams, W.
Duckworth, SirJ. lioncrieff, J. Wilson, James
buncombe. Hn. A. Molise% W. Wilmington, Sir T. E
Egerton, Edward 3lostyli, E. 31. Wise. A.
Elliot, John 11l ulgrave, Earl Woodd, B.
Esmonde, J. Norm eye, Lord Wynne, W.
Ewer% William Norreys, Sir D. J. Young, Sir F.
Fagan, W. O'Brien, Cornelius
Feilden, M Oliveira, Br:Wanda TELLERS.
Fitzroy, Hon. H. Paget, Lord Alfred
Forster, C. Paget Lord George Berkeley, Grenville
Freestun, Colonel Pakington, Sir J. Tufnell, H.
MINORITY—NOES, 99.
Alcoek, Thomas Ferguson. Joseph Phillimore, J.
Anson, General Fitzgerald, W. It. S. Ricardo, 0.
Archdall, Captain M. Forbes, W. Sanders, G.
13agge, W. Forester, Col. Scobell, Capt.
Bathes, M. T. Fox, R. Seaham, Lord
Baldock, E. H. Gench, Charles Seymour, W. D.
Barrington, Viscount Greene, John Shelley, Sir J. V.
Bags, M. T. Gwyn, Bowel Sheridan, R. 11.
Bellew, Captain Hall, Sir Benjamin Sinljth, Sir W.
lientinck, Geo. P. Bristle, Alexander Somerset,Captain
Bidduiph, R. M. Beard, J. I. Stafford, A.
Riggs. W illiam Heys orth, L. Stanhope, James B
Blair, Colonel Hudson, George Stuai t, Lord D.
Booth, Sir R. Jackson, William Stet t, H. G.
/3zotherton, Joseph Keating, H. S. Sell:van, M.
Burghley, Lord Kershaw, James Talbot, C. R. 31.
Byng, G. H. C. Kinnaird, A. F. Tbicknesse, It. A.
Cavendish, George Knatchbull, W. F. Thornely, T.
Chambers, M. Knox, Col. Tr ollope. sir J.
Cheetham, John Knox, W. S. Tyrell, Sir J. I'.
Christy, samuel Langton, H. G. Vane, Lo d A.
Clinton, Lord C. Lowther, Captain Vansittart, G. 11.
Coles, H. Beaumont 3lacarteney, G. Whalley, G. H.
Colville, C. It. March, Hurl of Whatman, J.
Cowan, Charles Massey, W. N. Whitmore, H.
Craufurd, E. Maxwell, Hon. J. P. Wyndham, ben.
Crossley. F. Milligan, Robert Wynn, Sir W.
Davie, Sir H. 311 nor, W. 31. E. Wyeill, M.
Drax, J. S. W. S. E. Morris, D. Torte, Eliut T.
Duncan, G. Mullings J. Randolph
Landes, F. Mundy, W,
Dunne, Col. Murrough, J. P. TZLLEZ.9.
East, Sir J. B. Neeld, John
Ev .11s, W. Oakes, J. 11. P. Vyse, Capt.
Farrel', James Pellatt, A Frewen, Charles Hay

A letter from Copenhagen of the Bth say :—" A seri-
ous conflict has just taken place between the workmen
en the works of the railway of Roeskild in consequence
of one of the contractors having engaged about a hun-
dred German labourers, although a great number of
labourers, Danes and others, had.been waiting for some
time without being able to get occupation. The civic
guard interfered, but were not able to quell the disturb-
ance. Detachments of hussar Kaye been sent off from
Copenhagen to restore order."