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Sir J• Pakington on the Mini‘stry.

On Thursday evening the Conservatives of 'Wor-
cester and neighbourhood made a demonstration in
recognition of the contest which Mr. James Levick
fought in the interest of Conservatism at the
recent Parliamentary election. About 200 of the
leading Conservatives of the city and county sat
down to dinner at the Guildall, and in order that the
poorer members of the Conservative party might
make merry on the occasion, a number of tickets for
creature comforts were distributed amongst them.
The great feature of the day was the public dinner
at the Guildhall. The chair was taken by Sir E. A.
H. Lechmere, Bart., the president of the association,
and among the company present were the Right
Hon. Sir J. Pakington, Bart., M.P., G.C.B, ; the
Earl of Shrewsbury and Talbot, Mr. A. 11. Royds
(High Sheriff of the county), Mr. Jas. Levick, Mr.
W. E. Dowdeswell, M.P., Mr. T. G. Curtler, &c.
The CHAIRMAN proposed " The health of Mr.
Levick," and that gentleman having replied,
Mr. T. G. CURTLER proposed " The Lords and
Commons," and in doing so referred to Earl Rus-
sell's appointment, and asked how many of the sup-
porters of the Government would leave them if Mr.
Gladstone dare move in the Irish Church question?

and Ireland.

The Earl of SHREWSBURY responded on behalf of
the Lords, and made some general observations on
their duties and privileges.

Sir J. PAKINGTON then rose to reply on behalf of
the Commons. After a few introductory observa-
tions the right hon. baronet expressed his views on
the present state of public affairs. In the first place,
he said, the change which had taken place. in public
affairs, -in his opinion, impressed the necessity that,
beyond almost any period within his memory the
Conservative party—and by the Conservative party
he meant the Conservatives throughout the land,
and not a mere handful of politicians limited to
the House of Commons—the Conservative party
should be firm and united in upholding
those principles which were their distinguish-
ing characteristic, namely, the resolve, as far as in
them lies, to maintain, advance, and uphold those
main institutions which, together, make up that
constitution from which all their greatest blessings
flowed. (Applause.) The main cause of that
change, in his judgment, in the aspect of public
affairs, arose from the death of the late Lord Pal-
merston. Whatever might have been Lord Palmer-
ston's faults —whatever might have been Lord
Palmerston's merits—he did not deny that he had
no disposition, in dwelling upon his memory, to
speak harshly of him ; and if he had, that would not
be the moment for doing so. He referred to the
effect of the death of that statesman merely to found
upon it proofs, which he thought he could give,
that the aspect of public affairs was dangerously
changed. He could remind them of the history of
the last six years, and remind them of the tact and
cleverness with which Lord Palmerston contrived to
maintain a partial compromise between the conflict-
ing interests by which his Cabinet and his party
were divided. (Applause.) He would not enter
upon the question as to whether the part taken by
Lord Palmerston was an elevated line of policy—
whether it was a dignified position on the part of a
great statesman--the Conservative head of the Ra-
dical Government and party--an arrangement of
which the Conservatives had no reason to complain.
The result, however, was this—that while Lord
Palmerston lived, and by his personal influence and
the support of the great and powerful Conservative
party was enabled to keep in check the Radical ten-
dencies of his own supporters, the institutions of
the country were safe. He referred them to the
political intrigues of 1859, and said the result of
those intrigues was that the Conservative party had
the satisfaction of seeing their principles in the
ascendant ; the pledges of reform and Radical
change vanish into thin air, and the feeling that
any attempt to overturn the institutions of the
country would fail. (Applause.) After the death of
Lord P ahn erston , as they all expected,lier Maj esty had
adopted the obvious course of calling on Earl Rus-
sell to form a Government ; lie (Earl Russell) had
appealed to the country for a fair trial, and that
appeal must not be made in vain. 'Whenever he
appealed for a fair trial, he must have it, but when
a man called loudly for a fair trial, it was rather like
his having got himself into trouble. (Laughter.)
Earl Russell must receive the fair trial for which he
asked ; that trial would take place in the High Court
of Parliament, and the jury would be the British
public—the verdict he would not anticipate, but if
he had the conduct of the trial the first witness he
would call into court would be Mr. Forster, the
member for Bradford. The public had been some-
what startled by some of the appointments of Earl
Russell in the organisation of his Government, and
all were on tiptoe to know what appointments were
made. They thought from the appointments they
would be able to form a very legitimate inference as
as to the probable policy of the new Government.
Up to that moment the Government was not com-
plete, but two appointments had been made--Mr.
Goschen, the member for London, and Mr. Forster,
the member for Bradford—who had excited some
fears. He regarded both as men of high character
and great ability ; and although they had not long
been members of the House of Commons, they had
both already succeeded in establishing a very consi-
derable Parliamentary reputation, and were both
men of extreme opinions. He was sorry to say
he could only regard their appointment as tend-
ing to show a very dangerous disposition on the part
of the Government. He alluded more especially to
Mr. Forster, who, in a recent speech at Bradford—
which was all very well as a speech to his constitu-
ents, but not so consistent with his position as a
member of her Majesty's Government—he
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speech Mr. Forster hadpledged to a
comprehensive measure of reform, and they knew
what Mr. Forster's school meant by that. H
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ferred to an unstatesmanlike speech of Mr. Glad-
stone, and said Mr. Forster expressed a desire that
the institutions of America should be introduced to
England, adding that a poor man must go to
America before he could obtain the rights of citi-
zenship. He grieved that any one with the ability
of Mr. Forster should have allowed himself to ex-
press such extravagant and indefensible views.
Under such circumstances the public had a right to
ask whether the Government were about to intro-
duce a Reform Bill embodying the views of Mr.
Forster—whether the Government were about to in-
troduce a very democratic measure of reform. If
they do not, Mr. Forster will readily find himself in
a position inconsistent with his personal character ;
and, if not, Government will have won over a mem-
ber from an extreme party. He was not without his
fears that an attempt would be made at the former
of these alternatives ; that the Government of Earl
Russell will find that their only escape from that
difficulty will be to introduce a measure of extreme
reform, and that when the question agamchoemiiesi
before the house for consideration, it will not
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principles, and of whom Conservative
surprise that they should sit opposite to them. A
large body would oppose any dangerous reduction
of the franchise. In the last session of Parliament
Mr. Baines's bill for a 16 franchise was support
by Government, who had not courage to bring it in,
but it was lost. Three able members on the Liberal
side—Lord Elcho, Mr. Horsman, and Mr. Lowe—
opposed it, and the Conservatives wondered how they
came to be on the other side of the house. He (Sir
John) was not without hope that this false state of
parties would before long be altered, and a proper and
true division of parties bebrought about. The jargon
of party cries kept up by the press had proved an
obstruction to this, but he hoped and believed that

WSPAPER

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it would soon be effceted.Z_Sir Jolighenarefead
to the measures brought forward by the Con-
servative Government, and said he hoped soon to
see Mr. Levick a member of the house, supporting - •
measures which have been advocated by the Con-
servative party. With respect to the great question
of reform, he thought that no attempt to introduce
democratic institutions to the country would suc-
ceed. Sir John concluded by expressing a hope
that his hon. friend (Mr. Levick) would soon be in
the house—(applause)—reflecting honour upon
himself and the city of Worcester, and bringing his
great knowledge and experience for the benefit of
the cause they espoused.

Archeological Institute of Great Britain

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announced that a communication had been received
from Sir Charles Phipps to the effect that her Ma-
jesty had been graciously pleased to sanction the
holding of the next annual congress of the Institute
in Windsor, in July next. He said the exact day
could not at present be fixed, as it would depend
in a great measure on the period at which the
Queen wonld be absent from Windsor Castle. The
Prince of Wales, who is patron of the Instititte, is
expected to preside on the occasion.
The first communication, "Notes on Excavations
of the supposed Site of the Roman Cambodunum,"
contributed by Mr. J. Bradbury, was read by the
secretary, Mr. Parnell. The place where the ex-
cavations have been made is about four miles from
Huddersfield, and so far as they have gone they have
disclosed numerous remains indicative of former
occupation .by the Romans. Among the most inte-
resting objects discovered are baths for hot and cold
bathing, and the contrivances adapted for heating
the water. The excavations are still in progress. ...:
A paper on the Roman pig of lead lately found
at Bristol was contributed by Mr. Albert Way, from
particulars communicated lsiy the Rev. Prebendary
Scarth. From letters cast on the lead, but partly
erased, it is supposed to have been of the period of
Antoninus Pius in the second century. The pig of
lead, which was placed on the table, weighed about
801 b., and is much smaller than others that have
been discovered in the same neighbourhood, for it
appears that the Romans obtained large quantities
of lead from the Mendip Hills. In the course of the
discussion on the paper there were some curious
commentaries by Mr. James Yates and Mr. Morgan
as to the meaning of the term " pig" applied to a
mass of cast lead. The latter gentleman expressed
the opinion that in casting the lead with a large
trough, called a " sow," the metal overflowed at the
sides, and those masses were called her pigs, hence
the word pig had been applied to all similar masses
of cast metal. Mr. Yates, on the other hand "con-
tended that the word pig is a corruption of the word
pie, meaning a piece. It was remarked in the course
of the discussion, as a peculiar circumstance, that
while these pigs of lead cast by the Romans are not
unfrequently found in England they are very rare
in France.

Mr. E. Smirke read a paper on some entries re-
specting the burning of lepers in the records of the
Channel Islands. The records referred to the time
of Edward I. or Edward 111., and it might be in-
ferred from them that some lepers had been burnt
to prevent the spread of the disease. Such a supposi-
tion was, however, contrary to the general feeling
then entertained towards lepers, who met with sym-
pathy from most classes, though they were shut up
by themselves as a measure of precaution. Mr.
Smirke referred to several ancient French authorities
in which it was asserted that at one period lepers
and Jews were suspected of poisoning the wells, and
among other poisonous matters they were accused
of throwing into the water were serpents' heads and
"ladies' hair.". In the record particularly referred
to there were two or three words missing, which
might have shown that it was for some alleged
offence, and not merely for being lepers, that the
persons had been burnt.

Mr. Greaves and the Rev. Dr. Rock joined in the
discussion, and agreed in the latter opinion.
Mr. Birch made a communication respecting a
threatened spoliation of St. Michael's Church, St.
Albans. He also alluded to the threatened removal
of the rood screen from Christ Church, Hampshire,
and read a letter which had appeared from the Earl
oNNlalmesbury on the subject. This led to a dis-
cussion of the fruitful topic of destructive " resto-
rations" and desecrations by clergymen, church-
wardens, and architects, in which Dr. Rock, Mr.
Morgan, Mr. Smirke, and other gentlemen took
part, and several additional instances were men-
tioned of barbarous attempts at restoration. A
resolution was then moved by Mr. Morgan, and
agreed to, to the effect that a representation be
made by the Institute to the proper authorities to
prevent the removal of the rood screen from Christ
Church.

Some explanatory observations were made by
Mr. llewitt on a rare article of defence worn by
knights in tilting, called a vamplace, which was
exhibited by permission of General Lefroy.
Several other objects of interest on the table were
briefly explained, and the meeting then adjourned
to the 2d of February.