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President—His (race the Duke of BUCCLEUCH, K.G.

This Hospital, founded in the year 1828, the first to estab-
lish the principle of free admission to the sick poor, without
the delay and difficulty of Governors' orders, is wholly de-
pendent for support on voluntary contributions and legacies.
It affords relief to a large number of in-patients, and, in
Addition to this, the average number of attendance of the
Itstitute sick has for a con -iderable period averaged between
3,000 and 4,000 weekly.
The Committee earnestly solicit the ASSISTANrE of the
benevolent, as the premises of this Hospital are capable of
co taini,.g several hundred more beds, had the Committee
the requisite funds to maintain them.

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(From the Leeds Mercury.)
Last night Lord Amberley addressed a portion of
the electors of Leeds in the Music Hall, at the invi-
tation of the Leeds Registration Society ; Mr.
Andrew Fairbairn in the chair. The admission was
by circular, addressed only to the electors in certain
districts of Leeds, it having been arranged that the
electors in the remaining districts should be addressed
to-night.
The CHAIRMAN, in opening the meeting, said it
must be distinctly understood that Lord Amberley
did not come forward as a candidate, but simply to
explain his views, with a view to his becoming a can-
didate if his views were approved of.
Viscount AMBERLEY said that on the former occa-
sion he had spoken on one particular topic, but it was
now his duty to address them on the various ques-
tions of interest of the day. The first question to be
considered by members of Parliament to be elected
at next election would be whether the present Go-
vernment deserved, by their management of affairs,
especially foreign affairs,ito be continued in office.
He said foreign affairs because, perhaps, it is in this
that there is the greatest difference of opinion be-
tween the two parties. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord
then expressed his approval of the conduct of the Go-
vernment in reference to the revolution in Italy, allud-
ing to the attack upon Mr. Stansfeld last session as a
very curious outbreak of the old hatred of the Con-
servative party to anything like enthusiasm in the
Italian cause. He approved of the Government's
policy with reference to Poland. As they were, in
fact, almost bound by treaty to see that the Govern-
ment of Poland was properly conducted, at least
that it was governed by a constitution, " we were
absolutely called upon to represent to Russia our
opinion of her conduct. And although the represen-
tations of the English Government may not have
produced any important palpable effect, I believe
they will be gratefully remembered by the Poles in
after times." (Applause). He also approved of the
Government policy in regard to the Dano-German
dispute, expressing the opinion that Denmark had
received much of the sympathy bestowed upon it as
the weaker party in the dispute. As to non-inter-
vention he supported what he understood to be the
Government's principle—not to interfere in the
internal affairs of other nations, disapprov-
ing, however, of the departure from it in
the case of the Oriental nations. But he said, " I
am very far from blaming the present Government,
because I believe the policy they have pursued in
China and Japan has been entailed upon them by
the policy of preceding administrations." He con-
cluded by saying—" I will only touch for one minute
upon domestic affairs, wishing rather to leave to
you to put such questions as may suggest themselves
to you, being very willing to give you my answers
as far as I am able to do. (Hear.) You are all
aware that I am in favour of what are called liberal
measures; that I would welcome some change in the
system of representation—(applause)—but I may
also add that there are various other reforms I
should be extremely glad to see effected. There is
the whole question of the Poor Law to be considered,
the question of the punishment of crime the question
of education. All those things need much conside-
ration, and it would be my earnest endeavour if I
should ever be in Parliament—(hear, hear, and
cheers)—to support any ,measures that might bear
beneficially on the people in these respects. (Ap-
plause.) I will, however, not enter at length upon
those matters now, but will sit down and expose
myself to that process of examination which I have
no doubt you understand how to conduct with
sufficient vigour." (Laughter and cheers.)
Several questions were put to the noble lord by
various electors, in reply to which he said he was in
favour of the abolition of the punishment of death.
He declined to promise to support the ballot, on
the ground that the advocates of the measure had
failed to prove their case, and he should like further
proof. He would vote for the abolition of church
rates. He was asked if he would vote for the repeal
of the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill, but said that though
he would not object to such measure he did not
think there was any urgent necessity for the pro-
posal.

Mr. WEATHERLEY-110W far could you go in re-
gard to the extension of the franchise ? (Cheers.)
Lord AmßEßLEy—That is scarcely a question
which I should be able to answer in a few words.
My own view is, that some extension of the suffrage
is required, but in what way the suffrage ought to
be fixed lam not exactly prepared to say. I shall
take another opportunity before I leave Leeds of
saying a few words upon this question. (Hear.)
You are already aware, from what I said before,
that I should be very glad to see some further re-
presentation of the labouring classes, and of all
classes that I wish to see represented. (Hear, hear.)
There are various considerations with regard to the
extension of the suffrage which it would take me
too long to enter into at present. lam inclined to
think that if we .had some test by which we could
obtain the most intelligent voters, that is the thing
which ought to be aimed at. (Hear, hear.) Ido
not altogether like the present suffrage, and I should
be very glad to see it altered. (Cheers.)
An ELECTOR inquired his lordship's opinion as to
the Irish State Church ?

_ .
Lord AMBERLEY-I consider the State Church of
Ireland a very great anomaly. (Cheers.) So far as
the endowments of the Irish Church are concerned,
I should very much wish to see them applied entirely
to secular purposes, to the promotion of education,
and of other measures of public utility. (Applause.)
Mr. DENTON-Will Lord Amberley vote for the
repeal or amendment of the present law relating to
masters and workmen ?

Lord AMBERLEY promised to acquaint himself
with the provisions of the act, and give his opinion.
He was sorry he could not give a more definite re-

ply at present.

Mr. DENTON said he could explain in a few words,
upon which

The CHAIRMAN observed that it was undesirable
lat every gentleman should go into a treatise on

all the questions introduced. If Lord Amberley
could not answer the question, of course he could
_• _ _

not. (Loud laughter.)

Air As Lord Amberley
has not C
answer to the question re-
;iuvliencili a° positiverSllEriH
re-
specting the suffrage, I should like to ask a more
Enp—
definite question. If returned to Parliament, would
he vote for the extension of the franchise to £6
occupiers ? (Hear, hear.)

Lord AMBERLEY.—I certainly am inclined to think
that an extension of the suffrage to £6 might be a
good measure, but I am not prepared to say quite
positively that I should vote iu favour of it. I will
give that my best consideration. (Slight dissatis-
faction.)
An ELECTOR inquired whether Lord Amberley
would vote for manhood suffrage—a question which
was received with loud hisses, and cries of " Don't

answer."

Mr. D. LUPTON put it to the meeting whether it
was not better to reserve questions affecting the suf-
frage until Lord Amberley had had an opportunity
to give a full explanation of his views as he had

promised.
A VOICE—Would Lord Amberley vote for na-
tional education ?

Lord AMBERLEY—I should wish to understand
whether the gentleman means free education—
education gratis. There ought to be some means

of placing education within the reach of every
one, but as a general principle if that is what is

meant I should not be disposed to adopt national
education. (Hear.) On the contrary, I think it is
very desirable that all who can pay should pay.
(Cheers.) _

Lord A
he mB
would
0L
in reply to another
question, uEIYd votealso said,
for Sir J. Trelawny's Affir-
mation Bill.

Mr. FINxiE said he regretted that he was under

ingly glad if all who are so qualified for the suffrage
should be admitted to it. I have been told upon
good authority that there are many living in £6
houses who might if they chose live in £lO houses.
If that is really the case, if those who could per-
fectly well afford to live in £lO houses
still prefer to live in £6 holes, I cannot
think that they are persons who are entitled to be
admitted ;to the suffrage. (Cries of " Oh, oh.")

That is the reason why I hesitate, much to my re-
gret, to give a definite answer to the meeting. I
shall be exceedingly sorry if this meeting should
consider, as it has a perfect right to do, that this
question is one of such importance that unless I give
a definite answer upon it, they will be unable to ap-
__

prove of me at all. (Hear, hear, and a voice—
‘4 That's a fact.") If in the minds of the Liberals
of Leeds this question is of that importance, I hope
they will not for a moment allow the question to
stand in abeyance ; it is quite right they should in-
sist upon it ; but I hesitate to give a positive
promise upon this point, because I feel that at a
future time I might see reason to change my
opinion ; and then I could not very well come
to this constituency and be fettered by that
pledge, still less could I go to the House of Commons
under that pledge, and be driven to one of two
courses, either of which would be dishonest. In the
one case I should have to vote in favour of a bill of

which I could not entirely approve ; in the other
case I should have to break a pledge given to this
constituency. Either of these events would place
me in a most difficult position, and that is, there-
fore, why I hesitate to give a positive promise,
although I am inclined to regard Mr. Baines's bill

with great favour, and it is very probable that I
might vote for it. (Hear, hear.) The £6 suffrage is
not precisely the kind of suffrage I should like my-
self. However, as you are aware, lam very much
in favour of extending the franchise to the working
classes, and of giving them a proper representation;

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and if I find that the object cannot be accomplished

in the way I myself should wish, I should in all
probability vote for Mr. Baines's bill. At the same
time I do not find myself in a position to give a

positive promise on this matter. (hear, hear.)

Mr. Councillor GAUNT said the rule laid down at
this meeting was merely to ask questions, but he
thought that was hardly fair. If he had to confine

himself to a question, he must say that as the matter
at present stood he should vote against Lord Amber-
ley. (Hear, hear.) He came to the meeting with the

very best desire to support Lord Amberley, but at

the same time the candidate whom he supported
must be one who had made up his mind on the suf-
frage question—(applause)—he did nut say to the
extent of £5 or£4, or manhood or universal suffrage,
but one whose mind was made up ; and in these cir-
cumstances he could not support Lord Amberley.
(Hear, and applause.) He trusted that before the
meeting on Friday night Lord Amberley would be
able to state distinctly whether he would go into the
lobby with Mr. Beecroft against Mr. Baines, or into
the lobby with Mr. Baines. (Applause.) He did not
wish Leeds to be stultified by sending to Parliament
a seemingly Liberal member who would go into a
different lobby from Mr. Baines on the question of
reform ; but if Lord Amberley was not prepared to
go to the extent of the £6 franchise, he would not

walk two yards to support him. (Hear, and cheers.)
The CHAIRMAN said he was very sorry Mr. Gaunt
had not kept faith with them, and he only hoped
that any other gentleman who made speeches would
wind up by asking questions. (Laughter.)
Other questions were put to Lord Amberley, in
reply to which he said he would not wish the Go-

vernment under present circumstances to recognise
the Confederate States ; he would not vote for com-

pulsory education as in Prussia," for though he had
no objection to it on the ground of principle, he
_ _

thought it would not work here ; and it was possible,

on further consideration, he might be in favour of
Mr. Lawson's Permissive Bill.

An ELECTOR—WouId Lord Amberley vote for
the abolition of the income tax ? (Loud and pro-
Longed laughter.)

A VOICE—And all other taxes? (Renewed
Laughter.)

Another VOICE—The poor rates as well ? (Con-
tinued laughter.)

The CHAIRMAN—I am sure that each of us would
vote against the income tax if we could ; but how,
without it, is the Government of the country to be
carried on ?

A VOICE--By national subscription. (Loud
[aughter.)

Lord AMBERLEY—I suppose we should all of us
be glad to get rid of.all taxes if we could. At the

same time I am afraid, in the present circumstances,
they are one of those unfortunate necessities to

which we must submit. (Hear, hear, and applause.)
And if it is thought by the Government that the
income tax is one of the best means of raising the

taxation required, then I should certainly not vote
in favour of its repeal. If the gentleman who pro-
poses to carry on the Government by voluntary
subscription—(loud laughter)--
A Void—He does not give much. (Laughter.)
Lord AIIBERLEY—If that gentleman can get up a

sufficient subscription list then I shall vote in favour
of repeal. (Laughter and applause.)
An ELiCTOR said that looking at Lord Amberley's
answer in reference to the Irish Church, he wished
to ask whether he was prepared to carry out his
principle to its conclusion by adopting it in Eng-
land ? Was he in favour of appropriating the re-
venues of the Church for education and certain
other secular purposes.
Lord AMBERLEY—There is of course a wide dif-
ference between the circumstances of Ireland and
England—(hear, hear)—which the gentleman who
put the question can scarcely have overlooked. In
Ireland the vast majority of the population are
Roman Catholics, and a Church is established
there holding the creed of the small minority. That
is entirely different from the case of the Church of
England. (Hear, hear.) Certainly lam not pre-
pared to vote in favour of the abolition of the con-
nexion between Church and State in England, if
that is meant. (Hear, hear.) The principle of
State Churches appears to me to be a doubtful one
—but as we have the State Church in England, and
as I am not able to see that it is here the serious
anomaly it is in Ireland, I am in favour of main-
taining the connexion in this country. (Applause.)
No further questions being asked,
Mr. J. LUPTON said he rose under the most pecu-
liar circumstances, and in a very different spirit to
that in which he had entered the room ; far he wag
belittle prepared to hear what had been said since
they had met. He had come there with the greatest
confidence, intending to propose a resolution which
he could not now put to the meeting. With regard
to the greater number of the questions which had
been addressed to Lord Amberley, he had felt that
his fellow-townsmen would be able to say " Amen"
to what his lordship would utter. But when he came
to that question which was dear to his heart, and if
he might judge from the spirit of the meeting, was
dear to the hearts of all of them—(cheers)—he re-
ferred to the extension of the franchise--he felt, if
he might say so, the breath taken out of him by
what Lord Amberley had said. (Hear, hear.)
He had felt, from his slight acquaintance with
his lordship, that if there was one man in the
country who was sound on that question, and agreed
on it with his friend Mr. Baines, it was Lord Am-
berley. 'He had listened to the speech his lordship
delivered to the large meeting a few weeks ago in
the Victoria Hall with the greatest pleasure. From
that speech he had felt certain of his lordship's views
on the subject, and he could not conceive how the
change had come over him. Lord Amberley must
excuse his being so plain with him, for he could not
help it. He must move the following resolution :
" That this meeting expresses its thanks to Lord
Amberley for his kindness in so fully and frankly
expressing his views on the various political ques-
tions of the day, but at the same time records its
opinion that no candidate will satisfy the Liberal
electors of this borough whose opinions do not go
at least so far as to support the £6 borough
franchise." As he had said, he had felt fully
satisfied that Lord Amberley would have
been quite prepared to have told them that
he would vote for such a franchise, and would,
without the slightest hesitation, walk into the
same lobby with Mr. Baines on the question. Some
change had apparently come over his lordship. Per-
haps he (Mr. Lupton) respected him the more for
so frankly and kindly giving them his opinions.
(Cheers.) He was young as yet, and he trusted the
day was not far distant when he would feel it his
bounden duty to support such a franchise. At the
same time he could not do otherwise than move the
resolution.

Mr. T. MARSHALL seconded the resolution, but
warmly commended Lord Amberley for his openness
and boldness. (Cheers.)
The CHAIRMAN then put the resolution to the
meeting, when a vast number of hands wer3 held up
in its favour, and 30 or 40 against it.

Lord AMBERLEY, on rising to return thanks, was
received with enthusiastic cheers. He said— I

heartily thank the meeting for the resolution they
have passed. It is a very frank and proper resolu-

tion. I also thank them for the kindattentionwith

which they have heard whatever I have had to say,
and I regret that what I have said upon this ques-

tion of the suffrage has not been satisfactory to the

majority of the meeting. At the same time, I felt
bound not to commit myself more than I have done,

because I felt that it was much better that I should
frankly state the doubt in my own mind than that I
should give a pledge now which 3 might perhaps
have afterwards to retract. (Applause.) There-
fore, I felt it was my plain duty to give utterance to

my opinions now, whatever they might be, even

though they might be unpopular with you, and I

rejoice that in this way I have ascertained the feel-
ing of the meeting. (Applause.) It is of the utmost

importance to me to know the manner in which this

question is regarded here, and although I am very
sorry we cannot agree, I thank you for your kind-

ness, and for the frankness with which you have

expressed your views.

On the motion of Mr. F. BAINES, seconded by
Lord A3IBERLEY, a cordial vote of thanks was given
to Mr. Fairbairn for presiding.

Mr. DARNTON L UPTON stated tl6t Lord Amberley
would give a full expose of his views on the franchise
to the meeting to-night.
The meeting then separated.

LEEDS, Thursday Evening, 10 o'Clock.
Lord Amberley has just addressed a second meet-
ing of the Liberal electors of this borough.
The meeting, which was very crowded, was held
in the Music-hall. Mr. Frederick Baines was in the
chair. Lord Amberley confined his remarks to an
expression of his views on the elective franchise.
The most distinct point in his lordship's speech was
that he would, if a member of the House of Com-
mons, support Mr. Baines's Borough Franchise Bill,
the principal of which is a £6 rental franchise in
boroughs.

This declaration was received with great cheering,
and the disunion which his lordship's speech of the
previous evening had almost produced among the
Liberal electors was avoided, and a resolution of
thanks to his lordship for his exposition, coupled
with a request that he would allow himself to be
put in nomination along with Mr. Baines at the
next election, was all but unanimously passed.
Lord AMBERLEY said that should he find it con-
sistent with his duty, and he was sure that two
Liberal members would be returned instead of one,
he would come forward as a candidate.
A large committee was formed to promote the
election of Mr. Baines and Lord Amberley, and
the meeting closed with a cordial vote of thanks to
the chairman.