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London, England, 1862-11-07 00:00:00

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MARLBOROUGH-STREET.
ROBBING AN HYTEL-KEEPER.—Mary Smith, a char-
woman, was charged before Mr. Knox with stealing a
tablecloth and some knives, the property of Mr. Lewis
Schill, proprietor of the Albemarle Hotel, Albemarle-street.
Meakin, 233 A, deposed to seeing the prisoner early in
the morning sitting on a door step at Charing-cross, and
observing that she gad a bundle in her possession, he asked
her what it contained. She replied " Old rags," but he
not being satisfied examined it, and found that it contained
a tablecloth, bearing the name of Mr. Schill, and some
knives. The prisoner then said the tablecloth was her own
property, and that she had brought the articles out to sell,
being in great trouble. On the way to the station the pri-
soner said she had been to the Albemarle Hotel, and on
going there Mr. Schill identified the articles as his pro-
perty.
Mr. Schill identified the articles as his property, and
said the prisoner had been employed at his hotel in the
laundry for •th, ee months.
Mr. Knox said he would deal with the case as one of un-
lawful possession. •
Mr. Schill said he did not wish to press the case with
severity against the prisoner.
Prisoner said she was the worse for drink, and did not
know how the things got into her possession.
Mr. Knox committed the prisoner for three months)
with hard labour.

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WESTMINSTER.
DARING GAROTTE ROBBERT.—Two persons of ruffianly
appearance, giving
the names of Edward Marks and John
Lane, were placed at the bar, charged with a most daring
garotte robbery.
The prosecutor's face bore marks of the shocking vio-
lence with which he had been treated by those who had
attacked him.
Prosecutor said—My name is Machael Murray, I live at
5, Simmond-street, Chelsea. I had been to the Teatotal-
hall in George-street, Chelsea, on Monday evening, but
did not return home until about a quarter past one onTues-
day morning. I came home through Sloane-square and
into Simmond-street, where I was attacked by a gang of
ruffians.

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Mr. Paynter—How many were there of them ?
Prosecutor—Four.

Mr. Paynter—Did they all attack you at once, pro
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Prosecutor—As I entered Simmond-street, the prisoner
Marks left the others, and suddenly crossed over to me.
I tried to get a little on one side, when he suddenly sprang
behind me and caught me with both hands tightly round
the throat.

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Mr. Paynter—Had you an opportunity of giving any
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Prosecutor—l had not. I tried to call out, but could
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Mr. Faynter—What did tho others, his companions, do?
Prosecutor—Directly he got my head back the other
ruffians came and ransacked my pockets. They took my
watch and money, and everything I had of value. I tried
to stoop down or to hang my head forward to look at the
men, but I could not, and Was much hurt in• the endea-
your. Lane was one of the men who attacked me.

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Mr. Paynter—What next occurred after they had robbed
you ? _

Pr( secutor—After they had taken all they wanted
Marks struck me; ho had some hard substance in his
hand. I can't tell what it was, but I was felled to the
ground senseless.
Mr. Paynter—Wero the whole of the injuries you have
about your person inflicted at that time ?

Prosecutor—They were, and within three doors of my
own house, where I went as soon as I was sufficiently re-
covered to get up.
Mr. Paynter—How long had you seen any of the men
before they made this attack upon you ?
Prosecutor—l never saw one of them until after
I had crossed Sloane-square. I thought I at first
caught the shadow of a man by my side as I entered
Simmond-street, and then I saw all of them on the other
side. I thought, as it was cold, they were making haste
home, and I turned half round to look at them, and quick-
ened my own pace.
Mr. Paynter—Did they come out of a house?
Prosecutor—I can't say. They were upon me all on a
sudden. I. thought I heard footsteps just Defore.
Mr. Paynter—What age are you ?
Prosecutor am 54.
Inspector Bu ler—His throat is in a very bad state, and
he has been cmfined to his bed ever since this occurrence.
Mr. Paynter—De you wish a remand, Mr. Butler ?
Inspector Butler—lf you will grant a remand I will pro-
duce what further evidenee I have upon the re-examination.
If your worship wishes I can go further with the case now.
Mr. Paynter—There is quite sufficient to remand them

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Prisoner Lane—He said when he was at the station lasi
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The prisoners were remanded till to 'morrow week.

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THIRD EDITION.

SUN OFFICE, SEVEN O'CLOCK. -

THE GREAT FORGERIESON THE BAAK
,ENG7AND.

EXAMINATION OF THE PRISONERS THIS DAY.
This afternoon the five men Buncher, Cummings, Bur-
nett, Brewer, and Griffiths, the men charged with the for-
geries on the Bank of England, on paper alleged to have
been stolen from the mills of Messrs. Portal, at Laverstoke,
were again placed at the bar. A sixth man, Williams, an
engraver, residing at Kennington, by whom the plates were
supposed to have been engraved, was also placed at the bar
with the others
Mr. Freshficld said the sixth prisoner was not in custody
at the last examination, but he had been arrested on a
charge of engraving the plate from which Griffiths printed
the notes. He was not sure that this might not become a
separate charge, but the particulars would develop them-
selves in due course.
Mr. Lewis said he should have to make minute inquiries
as to BroWn's evidence, and it might appear at first sight
that it had little bearing on the case. Eventually, however,
it would be found of great importance, as Brewer entirely
denied the statements which the approver had made.
Henry Brown, whose evidence in chief has been fully re-
ported, was recalled, and Mr. Goodman, the chief clerk,
read through the whole of his evidence. He was then sub-
jected to cross-examination by Mr. Lewis, who appeared
for the prisoner Brewer. He said he believed he was pos-
sessed of a good memory. He left the mill in June, 1861,
and had no connection with it since. He was dismissed,
but not for misconduct, nor for good conduct. He left on
his own account. (Laughter.) He was not dismissed for
keeping late hours and bad company. After his dismissal
he came to reside in London. No complaints were made
about his conduct prior to his dismissal. lie went to live
at Stratford, near London, but did not go into any empley-
He remained there about five weeks. He applied
.or work, but did not get any. At the end of five weeks he
went back to Laverstoke and remained there four or five
hmaodn tnhos ,
regularduri g w
employment hi c h time ho
lived
thenwith w
ehni
ts ft ao t hweor
r,
k butat
Lush's, at Portsmouth, and remained with him till
Easter, 1862. He then left, and worked with his
brother. Then he came to London to Burnett. He did not
tell Burnett that he was coming to him, but he was on
terms of intimacy with him. He knew at that time that
Burnett had been in trouble—in fact, that he had been a
convicted person. He went to Burnett unexpected and
uninvited. He told Burnett that he had come to London to
get work. Burnett at that time lived in Thomas-street,
Gibson-street, Lambeth, but he did not know whether he
was in any occupation. He lived with Burnett in London
until the reward came out. He lid not know the date of
it. He recollected what he did, but he did not know when
it was. After the reward he went into retirement at 98,
Tower-street. While he was living with Burnett, Burnett
kept him, and also in his retirement. He came out of his
retirement about a in( nth ago. Since that time he had
been with the police, who had been feeding him, but never
gave him any money. He had been living at the house of
Smith, one of the police officers, in order that he might
be kept out of the way of the other parties. Smith had
boarded and lodged him free. Smith told him his
object was to keep bim away from Burnett and the others.
He went out with Smith occasionally. Smith treated him
to the Exhibition, the Crystal Palace, and occasionally for
a walk. Smith never gave him any money, nor did he
promise spoke
Theof
first person money.
peSn hmiethhad
never
said much any.bmen-
tioned
Hamilton
aasme.
ilton of the police, and Mr,
Hamilton used to call upon him, area ask him to tell him
him
the
caseto
was o :lair. the
never
what he knew about the case. Witness was very unwill-
ing to tell at first, but he found he was obliged to do so,
No promise was made to him that if he told all about it he
should stand as a witness instead of being placed in the
felon's dock. Hamilton told him it was very likely he
would be placed in the dock as it was. Smith wrote out
a statement of the case from what witness told him. It was
not told that he might get a share of the reward if these
persons were convicted. He had not come forward to give
evidence exactly to save himself, but also to implicate
the others. He was anxious that justice should
be done, and that others should have their rights.
He first stole paper from the mill about April,
1861, while he was at work in the mill. It
was about six 'o'clock in the afternoon. He took
it from the machine room. Tbere were two machines in
the room, and they were attended by young females. At
3 o'clock the machines would be attended by two or three
young females, and the machines would be at work. He
took the paper from the size drying .machine, while it was
at work, and while the girls were there. It was possible
for him while the machine was in full work to draw the
paper off without damaging it. He had business in the
room, as his father was putting a machine up in the room
at the time. The next stealing was about a fortnight after
that. It was in the afternoon. He took the paper from
the same machine, and the females were at work as before.
The girls were within half a dozen yards of the machine at
the time, but they did not see witness. He could not give
the names of females present. The third abstraction of
paper took place a week or two afterwards, also in the
afternoon, and from the same machine, the women being
again at work. All the classes of notes, fives and tens,were
worked on the same machine. The fourth transaction took
place about a fortnight a ter that under similar circum-
stances. He was working in the machine room on each
occasion. The £5O paper was worked on the same machine
as the £5 and the £lO. He was in his working dress on
those occasions. The quantity of paper taken on each
occasion would be equal to about twenty bank notes. On
one occasion as he was passing through Brewer discovered
him, and it was then that he told the first lie, that he knew
nothing about it, and had nothing about him but a wrapper.
All the deliveries of paper by Brewer to him were between
Brewer and him alone. He did not remember a key of the
premises being lost four or five years ago in the room in
which he and his father worked, and never heard of such a
circumstance. He and his father never searched for such
a key. Brower once gave him a key to bring to London.
He took it back to Brewer and had not seen it since. No
one else was present: when he . delivered the key to Brewer.
The key was away from the mill more than a month.
It was about three months before he left the mill that he
became acquainted with Burnett. He never stole any rupee
paper. The paper was dry when he took it off the mill. It
had never on any other occasion than this been said of him
that he was dishonest. No *charge of the kind had ever
been made against him. He had been accused, after leav-
ing the mill, of stealing a spoke shave. He did not remem-
ber any other charges against him, He was certain he had
not twice been charged with acts of felony. He knew a
person named Martell, but that person had never charged
him with theft. He knew Lever, the Whitchurch con-
stable, but had not had any talk with him on this matter.
He had not had any conversation about the matter in the
presence of any of the prisoners, nor had any of them been
brought to him for identification. He could not say how
much money he had, from beginning to end, in connection
with this transaction. He had never been accused of in-
decency in a railway carriage by the officials.
Mr. Freshfield applied that his re-examination might be
postponed until he should have an opportunity of com-
municating with the people at Laverstoke, who were as
well acquainted with the mills as Brewer, who had in-
structed his solicitor.
The Lord Mayor asked Cummings whether he wished to
ask the witness any questions.
Cummings—No, I don't want to ask him any questions,
but I want to ask you a question, and that is, whether
I am to be convicted on the hearsay evidence of this
man.

The Lord Mayor said he was not aware that the witness
said anything against him.
Mr. Goodman, the clerk, explained to the prisoner the
state in which the case stood.
By Mr. Pater—Witness had seen Buncher at his shop
when he and Burnett called, but witness never went in.
Mrs. Eliza Cleft, examined, said she was the wife of
Win. Cleft, store keeper to Messrs Penn, engineers, of
Greenwich. At the end of August last she was residing
with her husband at 32, Railway-grove, Newcross. Fredk.
Campbell and his wife resided there at the same time.
About that time a person now in court came to call upon
Campbell. It was the prisoner Buncher. (She pointed,
amidst much laughter, to Mr. Patch, a Parliamentary
agent, who happened to be present, when asked to identify
Buncher, and was immediately ordered to stand down.)
Mr. Pater requested that the circumstance which had just
occurred should be placed upon the minutes, and that the
gentleman pointed at should come forward, and his name
be taken down.
The Lord Mayor said the circumstance would be noted,
but he could not call upon the gentleman pointed at to come
forward. (Laughter.)
John Moss said that on the 6th of September last he
went to the last witness's house at New-cross, and
offoutncle
her residing there with her husband, and a person
Smith
and of Campbell and his wife. Two other officers,t:
five
and Baker accompanied him. It was shortlytskf
out two
o'clock when he went there. They first of alltherouga from
bricks from a party wall, and made a hole
in there
over the hole in the front parlour. Thee3tio
%vitae" in the
the front parlour to the back. They hungreenllt
till half-past one. Mrs. Campbell came cwahmat she said he went
He saw
back parlour, and in consequence of
„inclose.
upstairs and looked out from the
Napier-road•
From what he had
two men waiting in the Napier-roa
the prisoner Buncher.
since ascertained one of them
wasshe afterwards heard them
He recognised him by his voice,
now knew that Buncher
' • *de the house. . pre
speaking inside
lived at Stratton-grounds
tr before three o'clock he heard
butcher. About a quarter
some one asked for Mrs,
Westminster, and that he is a
a knock at the door, and
was wyes.,, Mrs. Campbell
Campbell.
Zd"downetairs' The person, he believed
was then ea---
said, "Good day; are you prepared
Campbell said " Yes." Buncher said, '‘ Row
to be
to-day." M.-Campbell said " Fifty." Rancher said "T
hat's
no Mrs.
much•" wanted £2OO, as promised on Wed d '
d ; I Wednesday.''
ay.'
no goo ,
cArapbell asked how much he had got, and he said he
Mrs.
fifties. Mrs. Campbell asked if he had any Li
had ten go ,
law he said? "Not to•day, but let we BO tie money first i
; • ,'' Bun:lsle