The Sun.
London, England, 1862-10-17 00:00:00

THE SUN•
LONDON, FRIDAY, OCT. 17, 1862.

The success of the pro-Popery riots is, we are glad
to see, awakening general indignation. The liberal
press agrees that it is not to be endured that the
right of meeting and of expressing opinion, on even
"exciting subjects," as Sir RICHARD MAYNE terms
them, should be nullified by Papal roughs and
shillelaghs. The Liverpool and Manchester papers
are expressing the same kind of indignation as the
liberal journals of London, not only at the triumph
of the pro-Popery mob over Englishmen in Hyde
Park, but in their own vicinity also at Birkenhead.
The plot of these agents of Pope Pius and
ANTONELLI is to create, or threaten a disturbance,
wherever they exist in sufficient numbers to do so ;
in this way to make those who have the charge of
public buildings and places unwilling to allow their
use, or to compel them to forbid the meeting, and thus
these Papal ruffians remain masters of the field.
They have attained their object if Englishmen are
prevented from, enthusiastically it may be, yet
peacefully, " sympathising with GARIBALDI ;" and
generally adding to this a well deserved denuncia-
tion of a temporal Pope.
What is most revoltng of all is that the canting,
cunning, oily-tongued Cardinal, and the " Fathers"
who follow his lndierous, though not the less mis- ,
chievous example, represent the meetings referred
to as attacks on their religion. Now this, in them,
is simply deceit. They mast know better. But
ignorance, which Popery deems, for the lower
orders especially, the mother of devotion,
prevents the pro-Popery mob from knowing
the unmitigated falsehood of the representa-
tion. Tr,ere is indeed no reason whatever
except its uselessness, why meetings should not be
held to expose the mischiefs, as Englishmen gene-
rally deem them, of Popery. We dislike such
meetings ourselves, and as Papists would not
attend them, we cannot perceive what end would be
gained by them. But this was not the object of the
Hyde Park meetings ; it was not the object of the
City meeting, which, but for the Tory leanings of
our worthy Lord MAYOR, was to have been held in
the Guildhall. It was not the object of the Birken-
head meetings ; it was not, we presume, the
object of the intended meeting at Bradford,
where the pro-slavery mob successfully
frightened the Mayor; it was not, as is
evident by the report, the object of
_the meeting
at Brighton, where the Mayor would not be fright-
ened. The English people, whatever their opinion
of a religion which to this day imprisons excellent
men for eight or ten years for reading the Word of
GOD to their fellow-men—the English are ready to
treat Papery with the same courtesy as they do
Judaism, Mahommedanism, the Greek Church,
Indian Idolatry, and any other religion which men
may hold conscientiously, however superstitiously ;
but they will not be denied the right to deal with '
the public and secular acts of the POPE any more
than with those of the SULTAN and the CZAR,
the heads of religious communities as im-
portant as that cf those who believe in the
the POPE and his spirituall
in-
fallibility of a fellow
MAKER and their own conscien
:es.
• despotism, as
temporal Rulers—
or a Czar. we claim the right
an Emperor or a
mortal. ,We leave
subjects to their
But we claim
the right to arraign the POPE
n charges of secular
to arraign other
Kaiser, a King

The spiritual head of Catholics is confessedly, a,
the temporal head of the Romans, the worst and roost
hated monarch in Europe. The very Emperor who,
for his own purposes, takes custody of his person,

himself certainly no moderado in despotism, com-
plains that that of the PoPE passes all endurance
and has made many an effort to mollify it. The
Catholics of Italy, with the noble GARIBALDI at
their head, while they honour their spiritual head,
detest his worldly rule; and they lean chiefly on the
sympathy of Englishmen to get rid of what they
hate, and to retain only what they can re-
spect. Yet Roman Catholics, whom England has
emancipated, have the ungrateful meanness and sel-
fishness to put themselves into a perfect fury with
Italian Catholics, and with Englishmen who sup-
port them, for desiring the very franchises freely
conceded to themselves. We know there are a few
' intelligent and really respectable British Catholics
who repudiate this low ultramontane bigotry and
tyranny; all honour to them for spurning the
WISEMAN and shillelagh style of their religion.
Unhappily, however, it is with a fanatical priest-
hood and the ignorant mob that England has now
to do.

The Northern papers, which are now compelled
to assert the rights of Englishmen to freedom of
speech, are full of correspondence on the Birken-
head pro-Popery riots ; with Englishmen there is,
of course, but one opinion, but a curiosity in its way,
is the letter of a Catholic priest. After the mis-
chief had been done at the first GARIBALDI meeting,
two of these " Fathers " persuaded the mob to go
home. What he said was, he complained, misre-
presented. He denied that he had said all that
was reported, but in his letter which contains his
denial he acknowledges that, in addressing the
crowd, he called GARIBALDI " a blackguard," and
may have called him " a viper ;" and he adds this
very plain intimation—" If misguided fanatics
choose to call a meeting by large orange-coloured
placards, headed Sympathy with GARIBALDI,' in
the very centre of at least 15,000 Catholics, they
must take the consequences and be answerable for
them. They say they will hold another meeting.
Let them do as they like. I promise them, in the
name of myself and my colleagues, that we will not I,
again act policemen ; but those who raise the storm
may allay it."
What, we ask, is this but broadly admitting to
his degraded and brutal followers that they were
justified in disturbing " sympathisers with GARI-
BALDI." The sympathisers, he says, must take the
consequences; Those who meet quietly for objects
which the POPE'S ragamuffins, drilled by the
POPE'S priests, do not like, are told, if a disturbance
occurs, that it is they who raise the storm
Surely such barefaced, perhaps such unconscious,
tyranny, is but another of many proofs of the natu-
ral alliance between Popery and despotism, and of
its natural antagonism to the very elements of civil
and religious liberty. We hear of mob tyranny in
America. London and Birkenhead pro-Popery mob
tyranny completely throws it into the shade. It is
not even the tyranny of the majority. We are to
be cowed by small, priest-ridden minorities armed
with clubs ! We warn the wily Cardinal and his
priests, however, that they may just go one step
too far. We did rot, in advocating Catholic eman-
cipation, imagine that we were emancipating men
to enslave us, that they may better enslave their
fellow Catholics at Rome; we shall assuredly com-
pel this Papal rabble, as we have made them free-
men, to fulfil the duties of freemen.

It is rarely that Prussia awakens any interest in
the minds of Englishmen; of late years, indeed,
her conduct has tended rather to avert our eyes
from her, with contempt for her rulers and pity for
her people : even since the connection formed be-
tween the Royal families of the two countries
seemed like a pledge for something better, Prussian
Royalty, though in the hands of a new Monarch,
has not increased its attractiveness for us. If the

King of PRUSSIA could have heard the colloquial
remarks of intelligent and business-like Englishmen
respecting his doings, he would have heard himself
estimated as an " Obstinate Dunce ;" a man too dull

to learn from all that is passing around him, and
too obstinate in prosecuting his stupid plans to
listen to the reason of all his people, if it came to
conclusions diverse from his own, and from those of
the reactionary little feudal Camarilla which sur-
rounds him,

But the events which were consummated by the
coup d'etat of the 13th of October have almost stag-
gered Englishmen. They had surcosed that the
KING had at least respect enough for law and order
to attempt some legal means of attaining his
object ; and if he could not do that, that he
would at least rather wait awhile than commit
himself, in the present state of Europe, to
an act of unqualified despotism. Not so,
however. He will really make the " moan_
tain come to MAHOMET,"—a feat, unfortunately,
physically possible, in politics, to the commander-
in-chief of the country's army ; though it yet re-
mains to be seen whether the prophet of Mecca was
not a wiser politician than the owner of Sans Souci,
and whether King WILLIAM would not have done
better had he gone to the people when they would
not come to him. His speech may have been
perused by many of our readers yesterday. They
would probably skip as impatiently through the
first half of it as the deputies listened to it. The deal-
ings of such a great commercial country as Prussia
with Japan, China, Siam, the Porte, and Chili, are
so important that we can read only with a smile of
conventions with them, and " passports" is a mat-
ter with which we trust Englishmen trouble them-
selves but little since they have heard how the high
and mighty Prussian police administer Prussian
railway law.
But when his MAJESTY begins to describe to his
Chamber of Deputies his own view of his gracious
conduct to them, of their impracticability, and of
his determination, thereupon, to administer the pub-
lic funds according to his own notions, we instinc-
tively prick our ears. This is an old historic topic
with us ; we all understand it. And we all under-
stand also that there is no security for the liberties
of any people where a monarch, to whom is en-
trusted the command of the army, does not confine
his actions strictly within the limits of acknow-
ledged law. Instead of informing the representa-
tives of the people, that on their wishes having been
legally and formally made known to him, and that,
too, after they had been returned by the people for
this very object, he had conformed his measures to
them—he tells t'aem that he could not—that his
Government would " have been guilty of a seri-
ous forgetfulness of its duties" if it had
conformed to the resolution of the
Chambers ; that as the Lords—who, at the
best, are but a caricature of our House of Lords
—had agreed with him, and therefore what?—
that he has instructed his Government to reintro-
duce the Budget, and ask their reconsideration of
it Nothing of the kind ; but that " His Manny
is under the necessity of wielding the public affairs
outside the conditions prescribed by the Constitu-
tion." He coolly proceeds to tell the peoples' re•
presentatives that he is " quite aware of the re-
sponsibility he incurs," but that he knows his
duties to the country, and "finds therein the
authority which he needs." That is, his MAJESTY,
though he has a House of Representatives -a
(house, it may be truly said, elected by the people
" hoc) to decide this very question, acts the

authority of his own notions of duty, above the
opinions of the whole country.
It was impossible that the opinion of the people
could be more clearly expressed. The real question
was, shall the service in the army be for two
or three years ; and shall its numbers amount
to 140,000 or to 200,000. The coun-
try is sick of military expenditure and
military service—sees no impending danger,
and prefers the smaller army and the reduced term
of service. The only legal mode of effecting its de-
sires is through voting the amounts of money adapted
to what they ask. They do so. The KING'S peers
of straw are instructed to amend the Budget to the
Government form. This is confessedly beyond
their powers. The representatves of the people,
therefore, who had had differences of opinion among
themselves as to the amount of the Budget, had no
difference on the question whether they should sur-
render the charge of the national purse. And a
minority of eight, ashamed, we presume, to vote
for an illegality, having withdrawn, two hundred
and thirty-seven representatives unanimously voted
that the Lords had violated both " the sense and
the letter of the constitution, that their resolution
was null and void, and that the Royal Government
collie. derive no right therefrom."
As even his MAJESTY does not venture to derive
his right from what his Lords have done, he must
be held, tacitly, to aecept the resolution of
the members. It is reduced to the simple
question, whether a King of PRUSSIA or
the people of Prussia shall be masters of their own
purses, and decide how large an army they will
consent to maintain. Hitherto in this contest with
their revolutionary monarch the representatives
have conducted themselves well ; so well that thus
far Englishmen will thoroughly sympathise with
them. They have been firm, calm, and practical ;
the people, we are told, will receive the dismissed
deputies with ovations. We hope it will prove to
be so. A nation which did not, after what has
passed, support effectively its representatives in re-
sisting unmitigated despotism, would not deserve
its freedom. We should add that it is generally
understood that the KING'S son, the husband of
our PRINCESS ROYAL, young as ho is, has the
sense to differ entirely from his father. He prefers
the kindlf monarchical rule which he has seen ex-
emplified by our own Sovereign, with the attendant
reward of the respect, admiration, and attachment
of her whole people. Indeed, he appears to have
had the prudence to absent himself from a capital
where he could do no good.

Mr. TRAIN'S speech in America about England is
really worth looking at. We give it in another
part of our impression of this evening, so far as we
can contrive to do so, by aid of the reports that
have reached us, in extenso. Certainly in time we
shall have a pretty lively idea of what we look like
to a stranger ! As a nation, we have had our por-
traits taken from every imaginable point of view—
particularly of late, by French, by German, and
American pretenders to a certain skill in what, we
presume, we may really venture to call a certain
kind of photography—for if they fail to throw
much light upon their pictures, they undoubtedly,
while drawing them, make light of us : if to no •
body else's satisfaction, most probably to their
own. Was there not that red-hot Red
Republican from across the Channel, M. LEDRU
ROLLIN, to wit, who magnanimously repaid Eng-
land, for affording him shelter while in exile, by
writing a dreary book that may still occasionally be
picked up at our bookstalls for a few pence (which
no one, by the way, however, appears ever inclined
to expend) an immensely tedious work of a strangely
lugubrious character, entitled La Decadence
D' Angleterre? More recently we have had M.
ASSOLANT and some kindled compatriots of his
coming over here for a week or a fortnight's holi-
days, with a return ticket in their pockets, not a
smattering even of English upon their tongues,
apparently with a very few ounces of brains in
their heads, and an extreme small modicum of
consciences iu their bosoms. We have had M.
ASSOLANT and his brother gobemouches, et hoc
genus oinne—dropping in at the Coal Hole for a
kidney, pacing the Haymarket flagstones for half
an hoar towards cockcrow, having a ride in a six-
penny 'bus to Cremorne Gardens, or dropping down
by a sixpenny boat to Rosherville—and then de-
scribing their wanderings, and calling their account
of the same a picture of England and the English
People ! Finally, we have Mr. TRAIN crossing a
broader piece of water than the channel, coming
all the way to this country from the opposite shores
of the Atlantic—for what purpose ? To turn a
penny if possible with every gyration of every
wheel spun round upon every tramway he could
contrive to get laid down experimentally upon our
public thoroughfares—and while thus, so far
as he could, making it "All Right" to him-
self, genuine American, teaching us English-
men, after his American fashion, more glibly
and smoothly to " Go-a-head I" The attempt in
itself was laudable, but in its results it turned out,
as we all know—through a good deal of unfair
opposition, doubtless, but no matter how—a total
failure, The American TRAIN, proving in the end
so ill adapted to our country's needs, to our habits and
customs, and, to usr a big word, we will add, to our
institutions that—Fast Train, Express Train, Go-a-
head Train, though doubtless known to be on the
other side of the Atlantic, here in England, in Lon-
don, and (to be precise as to the exact locality)
in a very unromantic street in our metropolis,
called _ chivalrously enough by the name of
the Whitecross—the Fast, Express, Go -a-head,
American Train (as the popular phrase is) came to
grief. There were a dead lock, a series of horrible
confusions, sundry uncomfortable collisions—the
the tender was at last found to have been quite
emptied, and to have no means left for being reple-
nit:led—so that the American train had to be
shunted off our English lines of road, (decidedly
hard lines to the American), and to be shoved out
of the way with some difficulty. Mr. TRAIN has
since then got back again to the more congenial
atmosphere of Yankeeland. He has found a capital
stump just fitted to his feet, even as if it had been
made to measure. He has forthwith mounted that
stump and turned it into a rostrum. There again
being realised that charming phenomenon to the
lovers of bunkum—where—

" A living teapot stands, one arm held out,
This one [akimbo, of course] the handle, t'other one the
spout."
So it has been very recently we find far away in
the Federal city of Philadelphia. A misnomer by
the way—Philadelphia—as the arena for a display
of a brotherly-love, so acrimonious and so insolent as
that manifest throughout this astounding speech of
his in regard to England and to Englishmen. What
are some of the choice things Mr. TRAIN has had to
tell his fellow-countrymen very recently about
ue ? Well, here are a few of the tidb:ts
flung at us like like so many bare mouldy bones at
a dog's head, by this travelled JUVENAL, done into
a Yankee slang ! Speaking of England, and out-
Carlyleing CARLYLE, Mr. TRAIN says ;—`` I have
discovered it to be a complete sham. The English
are not a
fighting people; they are a nation of
cowards, and have been so all the days of their lives,
Where have they ever fought ? Show me a battle
field. How did they
fight in the Crimea? How was

their fighting done in India ? Did they fight in
China ? Let me tell you the English battles have
been fought and won by Irishmen all through. The
Irish are a nation of warriors as well as a nation of
orators; and all the battles of England ostensibly
won by Englishmen were fought by the Irish sub-
jects of that country." Something that like M.THIERS
discovering in his last veracious volume of modern
History, where he gravely announces that a whole
division of the English army at Waterloo was com-
posed of Scotch Greys. Mr. TRAIN has it now that
our army is all Irish. The English, as our italics
have especially notified, being " a nation of cowards !"
This, however, is not by any means all. Time was
when our national poet THOMSON, in his noble lyric
of " Rule Britannia," could apostrophise England,
without any sense of extravagance in the fact of
his so apostrophising it, as—
" Blest isle, with matchless beauty crowned,
And manly hearts to guard the fair I"

The time for all which, however (if it ever existed
at all), has long since passed away, and eternally,
if we are to believe this " chiel " so recently here
" among us," quite smilingly, and as a friend
" taking notes !" For example—" We," says Mr.
TRAIN, swelling with conscious pride, upon his
stump, "We [id est, The Yankees] are a superior
race. Our women are more beautiful, our men
more manly." . . . " We," he continued much
in the same strain a little while afterwards, " have
got thirty•four States, almost every one of which is
larger 'than her little island. They have got no
brains there. Their legislators do not represent
brains, but so many sheep, so many trees, and so
much land. Ow people are ahead of them in every
sense of the word. Why, Mr. SEWARD has reduced
the Lord JOHN RUSSELL to about that size. (Mr.
TRAIN illustrated his meaning by stooping and
raising his hand about a foot from the platform.
This caused loud and long-continued cheering and
laughing.) The English people are a nation of liars,
and I tell them that right square in the teeth.
I am going back again one of these days to tell
them so again. We are their superiors in everything
that makes a nation glorious. We are ahead of
them in education, ahead of them in the arts,
sciences, agriculture, and manufactures.) And so on,
and so on. Mr. TRAIN is coming back here, it will
be seen :he is coming back here to England—so he
he tells us—rather vaguely indicating the pro-
bable period of his return, however, as " one of
these
..days." Cowards—liars—and what not !
We would earnestly recommend Mr. TRAIN if he
ever does come back here to England (though we
venture to doubt if he is calculating correctly when
ho throws out this hint of having any such rash inten-
tion)—we would very earnestly recommend Mr.
TRAIN if he ever does revisit London not on any
account to dream of paying a visit any fine
morning, on " one of these days," to that
extremely interesting establishment in South-
wark called BARCLAY and PERKINS'S Brewery
An Englishman may, it is true, be made up, as
remarks this elegant critic and keen observer (not
only of our manners and customs, but even of our
physique), of so much porter and so many mutton
chops. We may, in Mr. TRAIN'S estimation, be so
much of a nation of cowards, that (speaking of the
English) he says, "You may slap them in the face
and kick them, and there is no fight in them :"
but, at any rate, over and above that, the Eng-
lish are, unquestionably, Humourists. They have
a great relish for a practical joke, they love a good
laugh, and some of them, by the way, down in
Southwark, have a lively idea that a vat is, all
things considered, just as good as a horse-trough.

VISIT OF THE KING OF PRUSSIA TO
QUEEN VICTORIA.

COBURG, OCT. 13,
The King of Prussia paid a visit to the Queen at the
Palace at Coburg, yesterday morning.

His Majesty, who travelled incognito, attended by his
aide-de-camp, Major von Rauch, arrived shortly after six
o'clock a.m., and was received by Lieut.-General the Hon.
C. Grey, Colonel the Hon. Sir C. B. Phipps, and Lieut.-
Colonel Du Plat, and by the gentlemen in attendance of
the household of the Duke of Coburg,
His Majesty breakfasted with the Queen, and their Ma-
jesties, accompanied by the Duchess of Saxe Coburg and
Gotha and Princess Helena, drove quite in private to the
Festung, or Citadel, where the royal party spent same time
in examining the different objects of interest.
The King took his leave at about 12 o'clock on his return
to Berlin.

PROROGATION OF PARLIAMENT.—The Lord Chan-
cellor, who will be accompanied by the Duke of Newcastle,
Lord Stanley of Alderley, and other Royal Commissioners,
will attend in the House of Lords on Friday next, the 24th
inst., for the purpose of further proroguing the Imperial
Parliament. The day to which they will further prorogue
is Thursday, the 13th of November.
DEATH OF SIR ANDREW LEITH HAY, OF RANNES.
—This gallant gentleman, who bore a somewhat prominent
part in the Peninsular War, died at his seat of Leith-hall,
Aberdeenshire, on Monday afternoon, in his 77th 3 ear. Sir
Andrew joined the army at the beginning of the present
century, and quitted England for Spain in 1808 as aide-de-
camp to his uncle, Major-General Leith, who was at that
time sent out to watch the movements of the French forces.
In this position he attained his captaincy, and was present
at most of the chief engagements in the Peninsula. He
fought at Corunna under Sir John Moore ; took part in the
battles of Talavera, Busaco, Salamanca, Vittoria, and was
present at the storming of San Sebastian. At the close of
the war—previous to which time, however, he had received
the order of knighthood of Charles 111. for his services in
Spain—he was appointed Military Secretary to General Sir
James Leith, then Governor of Jamaica. About 1830 Sir
Andrew returned home, and for some time occupied him-
self with literary pursuits, publishing his work on the
Peniasular War, with illustrations from his own pencil,
and which obtained considerable popularity. Turning his
attention then to political matters, Sir Andrew, after a hot
contest, won the seat of representative of the Elgin Burghs,
at the first election after the passing of the Reform Act.
Being a ready speaker and a good man of business, he soon,
after entering Parliament, had the post of Clerk of the
Ordnance conferred on him by Lord Melbourne. At the
contest of 1848 he lost his seat for the Elgin Burghs, the
Hon. George Skene Duff being returned. Since then the
deceased gentleman confined his attention mainly to matters
local to his native county, Aberdeen. Only a few months
ago he received from the neighbouring gentry of the shire
the highest honour they could bestow, that of Convenor of
the county, and as such Sir Andrew presided at an impor-
tant meeting so late as Tuesday week. He was out enjoy-
ing a ride in the forenoon of the day upon which he died,
Disease of the heart is understood to have been the cause
of his sudden death. He is succeeded in his estates by his
eldest son, Colonel Leith Hay, 93d Highlanders.

PENARTH HAREOUR AND DOCK.--A special
general meeting of the shareholders of this company was
held at the offices, Penarth, on Monday, Mr. Crawshay
Bailey, M.P., in the chair. The chairman explained that
the object of the meeting was to authorise the directors to
raise the additional capital of £390,000, for the completion
of the docks and railway, by preference shares. The chair-
man then moved the following resolution, which was
seconded by Mr. H. Jones, and carried nem. con.:—"That
a preferential dividend of 5 per cent. per annum be attached
to the £300,000 capital authorised to be raised by the direc-
tors in 3,000 shares of £lOO each at the special or extraor-
dinary general meeting of the company held on the 16th
day of June, 1862, from the date of the issue. of such shares
up to the expiration of two years from the Ist day of Jan.,
or the Ist day of July, as the case may be, after the open-
ing for public traffic of the company's dock and the railway
leading thereto."

ARRIVAL OF THE PETERHOFF.—A despatch re-
ceived in Liverpool yesterday announces the arrival at
Queenstown of the screw steamer Peterhoff from Nassau,
with about 1,500 bales of cotton on board. The Peterhoff
is one of Mr, Z. C. Pearson's "blockade breakers ;" and in
addition to her cargo of cotton she has on board the family
of the late Bishop of Nassau.
A TIGER-KILLER IN REQUEST.—We have been
informed by some of our Saturday excursionists to Siran-
goon that the tigers are again in that neighbourhood in
considerable numbers. The natives in many cases report
having seen them, and their footprints are by no means
uncommon in the pepper and seree beds of the Chinese
planters, We had an interview with Mr. Carroll, our re-
puted tiger-killer, who has onco more taken up his abode at
Sirangoon, and he ussures us that he only awaits full moon
to commence his watch for them. We fear, however, that
Mr. Carroll's ardour in the hunt is not v. hat it used to be ;
either he considers the inducement offered by the Governor
insufficient, or sport of another nature has proved wore re-
rilauerative.-15tratt$ Times, Sept, 6.