The Sun.
London, England, 1862-06-03 00:00:00

MEN T.

Lord KINNAIRD moved that the house go into com-
mittee on this bill, the object of which was to relax some of
the provisions of the original act, which pressed heavily on
public houses in Scotland.
The Earl of AIRLIE moved that the house go into
committee on the bill on the 13th of June.
The Duke of BUCCLEUCH and the Duke of ARGYLE sup-
ported the motion for going into committee.
The Earl of MINTO said the extreme restrictions of the
act now in force led to two great evils in the large towns in
Scotland.
The amendment was ultimately withdrawn, and their
lordships went into committee on the bill.
Clauses up to No. 5 were agreed to.
(LEFT SITTING.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS-THIS EVENING.

The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock.
NEW MEMBER.

Mr. ROBERTSON took the oaths and his seat on his elec•
tion for the borough of Shrewsbury.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The following bills were read a third time and passed :
Eden Valley Railway—E inburgh and Glasgow and Cale-
donian and Dumbartonshire Junction Railway Companies
—Edinburgh and Glasgow, and Glasgow, Dumbarton, and
Helensburgh Railway Companies—Mid die Level Drainage
and Navigation, &c.—and Nene Valley Drainage and Na-
vigation Improvement.
ROYAL COMMISSION.

Sir A. CLIFFORD, yeoman usher of the black rod, sum-
moned the Speaker and the members to the Upper House
to hear the Royal Assent given by commission to several
bills, for which see Lord•' report.

THE INCOME TAX.
Several petitions were presented from different parts of
the country against the present mode of levying the Income-
tax, and praying for the exemption of all incomes under
£l5O a year from its operation.
AUSTRIA AND THE VENETIAN PROVINCES.
Mr. FREELAND gave notice that he would draw the
attentign of the house to the relations of this country with
Austria, and the state of the Venetian provinces.

CHINA.
Mr. WHITE gave notice that on the 24th inst., he
would call the attention of the house to the state of China.
TELEGRAPHIC AND RAILWAY COMMUNICA-
TION WITH INDIA AND TURKEY.
Mr. J. E WART asked the Secretary of State for India 1
whether any proposition had been made to the India Coun-
cil to aid the establishment of a line of telegraph between ,
Singapore and India, and if so, what was the general nature
of that proposition ?
Colonel STUART asked the Under Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs whether an agreement was entered into in
1858, between the Governments of Turkey and this coml-
. line of te l
aeig,ros.
the
try (or of India), for the construction of a line of telegraph
from, Scutari to Bagdad by the Turkish Government ;
whether it was not also alzreed between the contracting
parties that, on the completion of the telegraphic commu-
nication between Scutari and Bag
should be laid dawn from Bagdad to Kurrachee by the Go-
vernment of this country or of India; whothe;foit‘t.tewraneraneontt
eastetelieloegnar,raatpphhhe
the fact that the line from Scutari to Bagdad was completed,
surveyed, and reported on as fit for use by
officer, in December, 1860: and, whether it WCM 110 ritish
fact that no steps have since been taken byitiliiiee
the agree-
ment
ofrfonithitacgoudandtrtyo(Korulraradeiha)eet,oincoaateicnourechtt the line
with
that the suqbueject, and it
of 1858?
Sir C. WOOD said with respect to the firstni3tlllieatedtwhould not be
cSolltmanunhiacdatbioenenbceotwmemenuntihcaetpedlaweeisthi
was considered by Lthe: Government
justify its being estab-
erthquestions, he thought the
of such immrpiotrhtarnescpeetcot
tlontdhieaoaths
Government was bound to complete the line from Scutari
to Bagdad.
MERCHANT SKIPPING ACT.
In reply to Mr. HoDsox,
Mr. M. GIBSON said that he hoped to be able to make
arrangements to proceed with this bill
shortly
after the
recess
E.
THE Whitsuntide
PUBLIC
XPENDITURE.—THE MOTION

AND AMENDMENTS.

Lord PALMERSTON, in moving that the house at its
rising do adjourn until Thursday, said he would avail him-
self of this opportunity to make a statement as to the
present state of the business of the house. Up to
yesterday her Majesty's Government had reason to believe
that the question which the house would have to deliberate
this evening was one relating to the economy which should
be exercised in the expenditure of the country con-
sistently with the efficiency of the public service.
(Hear, hear.) But a n.,tice had been given last night by
the hon. and learned member opposite (Mr. Walpole)
which entirely altered the issue to be taken. The question
to be decided now will be whether the gentlemen on the
Ministetial benches on the opposite side of the house were
the batter entitled to the confidence of the house. (Hear,
hear, and cheers from the Ministerial benches.) He ar-
rived at that conclusion from the form in which the h
om
on.
gentleman (Mr. Walpole's) amendment was framed, fr
the side of the house from which it emanated, and from the
political meeting which had recently taken place of mem-
bers. of the other side of the house, from which teemsted.
He thought that the best course the house prsue would be at once to proceed to the discussion of the
was the best
real question raised, as to which Party
entitled to the confidence of the house, (Loud
cheers from the Ministerial benches.) He trusted, therefore,
that the noble lord the member for Halifax (Lord R. Mon-
tsgu) and the other hon, members who had amendments on

the motion proposed by the hon. member opposite (Mr.
Stansfeld) would withdraw them. (Hear, hear, and cries
of "No, no.)
Lord R. MONTAGUE said that he did not place his
amendment on the paper from any hostile feeling to the
Government, but from a sincere desire to promote econ:=9
in the publio expenditure. He was very sorry when the noble
lord (Palmerston) stated that this subject was brought for-
ward in a party spirit. He was at the political 'meeting
alluded to by the noble lord (Palmerston), and he denied
that the amendment to which the noble more particularly
referred emanated from that meeting. On the con-
trary, it was stated at that meeting that the question
on which the motion and amendments were founded should
not be made a party question. (Hear, hear, from the Oppo-
sition benches.) He would withdraw his amendment if
other hon. members would do the same. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HORSMAN said that he was quite unprepared for
the course taken by the noble lord at the head of her Majeß
ty's Government. He considered that he had taken a very
erroneous line of action, and he had placed himself entirely
in the hands of the house. He thought that the right hon.
and learned gentleman (Mr. 'Walp le) had taken a straight-
forward course, and in adopting the policy of the Govern-
ment, had embodied that policy in a clear and distinct pro -
position. (Hear, hear.) He would not adopt the course
suggested by the noble lord in his amendment.

Mr. WALPOLE said that the noble viscount (Palmer-
ston) had placed the house in a very difficult position. It
was not his intention to disturb the Government. His ob-
ject was merely to afford the house an opportunity of de-
claring for itself whether it would come to any resolution
as to whether the finances of this country could not be so
administered as to make the national income meet the
national expenditure.

Mr. D. GRIFFITHS rose amidst cries of "Read, read.
He said he proposed to adhere to his amendment, because
it was the last of all the amendments which had been
placed on the paper. (Laughter.) He did not condemn
the Government, but he thought the subject to which his
amendment referred should be fully discussed.
Sir F. SMITH, who had also an amendment, disclaimed
any hostility to the Government, and said that he dealt with
the subject as an officer in her Majesty's service and a mem-
ber of that house.
Mr. BRIGHT censured, and Mr. ELLICE, who moved
the adjournment of the house, defended the course taken by
the noble lord (Palmerton) and the Government.
A scene of great confusion ensued, some members endea.
vouring to address the house, but succeeding only in a
pantomimic performance amid great laughter.
The SPEAKER having called bon. members to order,
the amendment for the adjournment of the house moved by
Mr. Ellice was withdrawn.
Mr. STANSFELD moved—" That, in the opinion of
this house, the national expenditure is capable of reduction
without compromising the safety,
the independence, or the
legitimate influence of the country." He contended that
the present was an appropriate time to bring forward this
motion on the ground that the temper of the house was
suited to its calm and deliberate discussion. In showing the
necessity that existed for retrenchment in the public ex-
penditure, she referred to the expenses incurred in the
Crimean war, and went in detail through some of the larger
items in our naval and military operations.
[LEFT SPEAKING.]