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TO 'THE VACULTY

AYQUNK4 •
G EN TLEMAN of respectable Con-
., . net Urns, who has been regularly
~:clueated in the di,
Itn:fit bt,toOcs of the Profrioidn, wipes to engage in
PA PLTN 4 R Ski I l' -1/4‘, t t it ameklerty Gintkman of re'sptiaable
lentrAii.v,%t i t:3ir. in "Uo w it or C opi).4 t 7,4 *Po MaY V; ::::13,, .1.1,,be
Zeliiivod tiom,t nu, laborious part of butiness. .
A' Line attifessett ,to' A. B. :it Nli-..Cox's, St. Thom., 5'.....
street, Sot/thy/Ark, will be int/luxe:o4y atteodcd.to.

NOTICE: is heieby given, That ,the PART-
NF.RSFIIP be,tVveen SAMUEL BE F. RA .and WM.
)dAl4l;.of Greek-street, Sohu,' in the. County. of 'Mild lefx,
INhotesale'Perfumers, :carried .on "under the Firm ,of Berry.
and Maki, being dissolved by atedeamase, of the ::airs
Main, such Thslness will In future be ciirriLd on by the said
Sonittel Berr,•the surviving Panne' And all Persons• in-
debted to the said Copartnershiv, F.sfate, are requestol forth-
with lo pay. the S4ille to the said ....iaitineljlerrv, by whom. all
Debts due from the' said' Copartnership will be duly dis-
charged on receiving an Account thereof.
- • SAMUEL iIERRY.
lane Main;
• ' john tewington,
• oh&rt• Low, • 11U-cutor',3 •
. John Main, )

.. •
• 'THREE THOUSAND POIINLA.
°ENTLEMAN 'tv,ishes to dispose of the whole,
or 41.14 Y part of tbe'above Sum, in . procuring a genteel,
.t_ncrative pyrnac,ept ,;tio,:ion under, Government, in the
Uivil or Dr,,artirieut ;it 'Kim.; in Which .resiticnc.: ill
London, lj
'•
or cons AttC.3l44lllCe, 110 t te4.l4llslte.
The striaest SCCf4II, 1:X.! pxpected, ;WA.
May be reii'm "lion ;- :UU on a line adtlrt!,ssed to :L 1 .:at
Abram's, Stationt..r, Middle Temp le Persons disvoscd
to treat will lje referred to a respeztable confidential friend of
the Advertiitos3-,

COUNTRY Rrisrptgcr..
WANT'ED, for Three or Six .Months certain,
by a Reslvitlable raritliy, "without Children, a New,
4,lodern, betache,i TIO US Ei 1.. URN I S I-IE D ; fromix- „b .t 0
ten miles distent from Town ; to contain not less than
4citir principal Siect.ili??.% itofims, with Serv:ints'' RoOtris in
' troportion ; wi tit (; a flit 11 CC/4C I, - hoc' se,, and .5 table-. The
LhaitY of the great Nortft Of Vire6t Roads would be pre-
ferru,
Address to J. AVektherall, Upholderi. No. :52, I)6u-sireet,
8011 .

SUGARS, RICE, and SCOTCH
NIEJCI-1 CIPLAPE„R.
-TEAS.---.One Ounce to every Pound (Trett)
OverwelFht : lloliea, 2S. to 2,i, 6d. Congott 2s. Bd.
`0 CongoteKind, 3s. to 4s. Good Congou' 45..6d. to.
iS• ptt.l Sot,tchong, to6s. Suportinv 7a to 85. Best
meOrted Patlta alai. Caper Souchong, per lb.
retin l'eas, 4s. 6d: to ss. Capital ss. 6d, to 6s. ilyson,
6s, 6d to pie Rs. Superfjne 9s. to los. licit Imported,
t-Tunpotcdet 13trsof., izs. per lb. '
1.,T0 Dealers.:--e;enuine Opgipal Chests COMOU and Green
4s. 6d. -to ss. per lb.
36, 61 to 4s. Eine 45. to 59. Best Turkey),
Ss. 6d. to 6s. per lb. Genuine Cocoa. 3s. per lb. •
Chocolates, 46. to ss. Best, is. 6d. Str flans Sloane's
114., ilk, churchman's Patent, and kinest Vanilla)6s. tots. 6d.
per lb.
Bugars, Moist, 6d. to 7d. Lump, raid, to std. Dry Grum]
tr s; 7d. to 9tl. per lb. Better sorts cheaper in proportion.
Vee, aid. to 34. Ground, 30. to .Id. Rice Flour, 4d. to
i
""' zid. 'to 3d. Scotch Barley, zd; to zed. per lb.
At 14easrs.• EDWARD Jz. AGLETON and Co.'s thiety.
tears Olthestablisharfea Warehouses, the Original Grass-
Orltr, No. 42, Cheapside ; and No. 9, Bishopsgate-street
un, near Cornitill.
connedion with any other }louse with
47'Sitir of the Giasshopper, Zoe. or any'othier House of the
wine Narne, Srci. Net have any persons in the Kingdom
tthority to sell Teas, &c. in, or use their Names or Pirm.
or 0:3. Orders by Twopenny or General Post, inclosingliank,.
„•good Bills, sent to exaft amount, or Change returlied in
r•-j_or9ds, or Orders for Payment on delivery, to Coach, Car.
,L`'„" a4c. duly attended to, Wholesalcand Retail, and sent (as
„Vs' ?niers) to any part, place, Coach, Carrier, Inn, Wharf,
in London
rv, StarchTi • . .
Mus-
tards, lc best at Price.--ices) Fruits, Durham ,
Blues, Soaps, &c. with extra advantages.
.1114rticies subject to rise and fall of Markets.
‘,lnquirers I
lice (011-Yi I)lU5t ply Post, Sic.--Itequest timely no.
Ylth Orders.

CAPITAL MANOR AND 'ESTATE,
ti STAFFORDSHIRE. •
TO BE SOLD DV AUCTION, •
By Mesqs. SKINNER and DYKE,.
On WeelnrAay the zad of July, at Twelve o'Clock, at Gar-
raway's Collet-house, 'Change-alley, tornhill, London,
In One Lot,. . • • • •
A CAPITAL and- 'VRY
rd.; FR F.EHOLD , ESTATE; rjtuate at CHEDLE-
TON, a fine healthy part of the 'COUNTY of STAY.'
FORD, within tour nide& of Leek and Cheadle, nine of
Newcastle, and about thirty from Litchfield and Derby ;
coinptiaing the MANOR .Of CH E DLETO,N, with Animal
Free and Quit Rents, Court Baron, I nimufutics, and Royal-
ties, over an extent of Country of about zo miles in circiwi-
ference ; a very commodious modern stone-built--Resileiu:::,
'called WESTWOOD HALL, with ()]flee;, Coach-house:,,
Stabling, Walled Gardens, Pleasure Walks, Dcmesn.! Lands,
desirable Farms and Tenements, interspersed with b:•;uniftil
Woods and Plantations, and a considerable- Fall of Water.;
the whole containing about tsoo Acres, except a small Van
Tythe-free, forming a handsome Domain, oripable of great
improvements; the most considerable part hi hand,' awl-lett
to Tenants at Will, tlae remainder on very old Lives, •on •
whoSs,Dernise the present Rental, amounting to about SIX-
TEEN HUNDRED POUNDS per Anil. will be raised
,considerably. Exclusive of Westwood- H all, floo3C;Grounds,
and Manor, and improve:d3te Coal-Works, advantageously
situate a short diStance from the Staffordshire Navigation, to
-which there is a Rail Road. Also the PERPETUAL CU.
RACY to the Parish of Chedleton; of the Income orabotzt•
ONE .HUNDRED POUNDS per Ann.
To be viewed II days preceding the Sale, by applying to
Thomas Dawson, at Westwood Hall of whom printed. Pa-
rticulars may be had; also of Mess.rs, Mills and Cruso,
Solici-
tors, Leek ; Mr. Drewry, Printer, Stailbrd; Mr. Harropp,
Printer, Manchester; Mr. Dmwry, Printer, Derby ; mess.,
Swinney and Co. Printers, Birmingham ; Cahill Inns, at
- Stoneand Newcastle; Peorge, Litclitield; Dog, Sandon
Kitig's Head, Coventry; at the Place of Sale: and of Mess.
Skinner and Dyke, Aldersgate-sheer, London.

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HOUSE OF PEERS,,

NIONDAY, JUNE 15.,

COUNSEL were heard in.continuation, respthirg
the Appeal, PLASKETT AND THE YORK BUILDINGS
COMPANY DAVID STEWART, 'Esq. ; the further
hearing of which was deferred till to-morrow.
The Bills before the House were forwarded in
their respative stages.
A number of Private Bills were brought up, from
the Commons, and severally read a first time.
Lord HOLLAND presented a Petition, we believe,
'from some individuals, respefting the Indemnity
Bill ; which was ordered to lie on the Table.
The Earl of RosLIN presented some Papers,
which; as we could coiled, constituted a Report
from their Lordships' Secret Committee, and was,
on thd Noble Earl's Motion, after a few words from
the Earl of Su rvoi.x, ordered to be printed.
CLERICAL ELIGIBILITY BILL.

The Order of the Day for, the second reading of
this Bill being read,
-
• Lo-. 1 THURLOW.thse and addressed the HouSe
at some length upon the subject, but generally, in
such a 'feeble tone of voicei.. that: his -auditors were
precluded from bearing the :greater part Of his
obser vat ions. The .Noble and Learned Lord 'en-
. tered into a line of 'argnment,"and dedltdiOn froth.
various legal Authorities, which .he cited, in :the
course of hiS-*eCh, decidedly .agitinSt the Biil,
•
and, apparently, as well. with respeil' to its prin_
ciple, as to in: leading provisions. " Mfg acknow—
ledged4he importance of the subject, `and, in some-
degree, the necessity of taking some steps upon it,
but seemed to imptess the idea, that it should not
be dope by means of a Bill. Holding it as a prin-
'hat either House'of Parliament, respectively,
should have the sole disposition as to the compe-
tency or incompetency of their own' members; he
• thought that such a consideration should ,have
enced the Commons in the present instance. lie was
*-astOnished at the introdatiOn of the Bill, arid depre_
. cated the consideration, that, in consequence of such
a step, their Lordships should be called upots to decide,
' who had, or, who had not a right to sit in the other
House of Parliament. He contended there was
no necessity for -a legislative provision on the
subjed ; the other House, was competent, within
itself,, to do- every thing the necessity of the
case required; , and he regretted that- the Right
Hon. Gentle Man now at the head of. His Majesty's
councils should squander away his time and his
abilities .upon so silly and so frivolous an occasion.
" He would ask, in what part of the History, or in
.what'principle of the Cobstitution of this Country,
'was it to be found, ,that Holy Orders prevented an
individual from-exercising the Eledive Franchise ?
He adverted to the disabilities which the .Clerical
Charader involved, as meriting, some points of
-view, the; indulgent_ consideration of the Legisla-
ture. He ohserved, that he knew many Clergymen
who lied relinquished even preferment upon consci-
entious groLinah ; and seemed- to allude to the op-
pressive tendency of those regulations which pre-
vented Clergymen from entering -too any other
. sphere of life. , In considering the proposition of
'excluding Clergymen from the Legislature, he ad.
vetted to the participation which the Heads of the
Church enjoyed therein, viz. the Bishops 'sitting in
the Upper House of Parliament. The tenure by
which they' held their seats was &rived flom the
Constitutional or legal contemplation of their Stet;
as laronies, to which an objection was never yet
•• Made, nor to' their sitting formerly --in the Upper
-House- of Convocation, in which- Assemblies the
suhordinate Anders of the Clergy sat in virtue of
an equally legal right with that of the Bishops., He
then adverted to that part. of the history of thesubjed,
Whieltrespeded the autient right of theargy to
tai{ themselves ; the period of, and grounds on which
they relinquished that -right, what in his mind ought
to be the consequence of such surrender, and also With
resped the, qualifications fOrmerly required from
the Clergy to sit and votein the -House of Convo-
cation,; in discussing those several heads he' dis.
plafeal much, ability. and a great.degree of know.;
ledge of the,sUbjed, and cited.varions. legal autho.
titres in support of his opinion, particularly that
of Lord COKE. p He observed upon the reciprocal.
rights of. taxation and representation, as Applying
to the' disqualificatioo,, laboured _under by the
Clergy ; against whose light to eledion, we
understood - his Lordship to say,• that he knew
of, no principle ~of Common Law that applied ;and
he slightly referred to the well known .case-of Mr.
Rust-iwbwrit, as illustratieg his argument, He par.
Ocularly disapproved of the declaratory part-of the
Bill, observing with respect to it,, that they. shon,ld
not punish the other House of Parliaineot for their
inadvertency in sending up such a Bill, by agreeing
.to it, but .merely. to admonish them, that they
should be the: sole Judges of the Eligibility- of
persons to sit in their House 'of Parliament. He
Observed, upon the Preamble of the Bill, which,
as it stood, he confessed himself rather at a
lois to comprehend- what it meant, as well as
the real object of .the Biel itself, which he de_
scribed to be in part declaratory, and partly enad-
ingi it declared 'one way, he said, and ,enacted
another. fhb view of the subjects he could not
'discern one spark of common sense in the measure,'
and he thought their Lordships should pause before
they did that which went lib disfranchise a partieu.
lar body of men, He wouldeven, had he an oppor-.'
tnnity, put it to the other House, with .t reference
to that spirit of liberty, which -sometimes Wu_
elective it to extend the eleive franchise. Nbble
and Learned Lord, then procetied to comment upon
the principle of the Bill, ,a Bich he seemed to say
apperated rather oppressively, with resped to the
inferior orders- of the Clergy-, whose interests, as
identifxd with religiott, 'should be 'particularly con.,
skived, at :a period, -in Which he said, we Vl;re
cogned in War, for religion, and ,is) abundance
-of Other good things. A•propositiort of this kind '
he observed, (rather jocularly,) might originate
in either House, and so as to inlet cinch other reci-
proeally ; in such an instance, the seas even of the
Reverend Bench. Inlet; be affeCted.- concluded \
exer.,.ssing his 'decided disapprobation of the
Bill.

The LORD CRANCELLOR quitted the wool.
sack, to answer the Noble and Learned Lord. He
,obiervett, that what' he was .about to subniit.to
their- LOrdships; he should deliver •With at; much
earnestness and sincerity as if in his judicial cape.
city„and just what he should deliver from the
woolsaCk, were their Lordships sitting .air a' house
pf judicature. He agreed With the Learned Lord,
Chat-the Bill was declaratory as to the law. Ano-
ther. proposition in which
,he agreed with him was,
the absolute necessity of some regulation upon the
subjed. • He should, were he a Member of the
Hoose'of Commons, certainly, in the first. instance,
have proposed a Resolution, ,and not an Ad ; bUt
the former, when acceded to, he should have
held it his duty to propose following up such
Resolution with. a Bill. He also agreed with
his NOble and Learned Friend, that the Bill gave
an opportunity, nay, imposed a necessity upon their
Lordships, of deciding so far as to the PrivilegesOf
the other. House of Parliainent.. With respcd to'
' the Objedions to the declaratory Clause, he argued
for the necessity of its insertion, on the part of the
C.iaMmons, and instanced, as a case bearing out that
part of his argument, that of the Middlesex Ekc.
tion, where Resolution was opposed to Eledion, and
euice veme, Election to Resolution, in a way which
at least did no credit to the policy of that part of
the conduit ,Of that Hdttsee What he conceived
to be • the object was, to say that' by the Law of
England, as it nosh stands, a person taking. Holy
Orders Was, because he had taken them, incapable of
being elected into the Commons House of Parliament.
With, respeCt to. the idea of its extending to depri.
vation of franchise; such an idea was evidently un-
founded, as it was impossible to take away from an
individual that which:he had nor. And he 'Mast
strenously insisted, it would neither serve the in.
' terests of Religion or of the State, to change the
present system in that respeds His Noble and Learn_
cd Friend, commented upon the language of the Ad
before their Lordships ; with resped to that,
he could perhaps as, well as any other person,
remove those doubts froth the Noble Lord's mind.
He had for a series of years, while he served
in the offices of Solicitor and Attorney General,
.occasion frequently to draw up Aets- of Parlia-
ment, and loskeds he 'observed, it was ayery
cult thing to draw up an ACt so as. to render the
language of it free from objeftion ; but he had one
ruler and sq far as, it applied, it was an .unerring
rule, and which he had learned from his Noble and
very Learned friend, which was, to adopt those
phrases which the Legislature had uniformly. used
before him, and this was the mode in the present
instance; he held the declaratory part of the Bill to
be as necessary as any other part, of it ; such a line
of proceeding was adopted by the framers of the
Bill Or Rights, which,' if ever there was a purely
declaratory Law, it was that Bill.—ln that Aft,
their virtuous 'Ancestors, after having asserted the
indisputably legal rights of the Subjeft, went
on to declare and enad that they were
The material part for the consideration of ; the
House: 'in the present InStance was, whether
persons in Holy Orders were capable or not
of , being eleded to the 1-louse of 'Commons ?
And in this view, he was led to consider the Indeli.
'bility of the Clerical charader. With respeCt to this
very important consideration, every principle in
the Christian Church, Reformed, or as it stood be-
fore that period—every Decree and Canon—every
Writer, Historian, &c. all agreed in establishing the
proposition, that a person in Holy Orders is ludeli.
ble ; that the Canon Law, which inculcated ex.
pressly this.dodrine, was part.of the Common Law
of &gland, was a principle received and adopted by
, Lords Hate, HoeT, i'L oWtott, and even by an
Authority . which he respected as much as any of
those, that of Lord Tnithow himself. By the
'Canon of, 1,603, his Lordship observed, it was
expressly decreed, that no man, being 'admitted
in Holy OrderS, could, voluntarily relinquish the
same upon pain of excommunication; but the ope.
ration of this the Noble and Learned Lord explain.
rd, did not,go to affect the charader of a Priest, or
a DeacOn. In support of those positions, and fur.:
abet to establish. the absolute Indelibility of the
Clerical Charmer, his Lordship read a variety of
4itotations from different Ecclesiastical Authorities;
particularly from' Decrees of the Council of Trent ;,
and above to prove that this Indelibility could
not be 'abrogated by the volition of the individual
himself. In the Christian Chureh, before the Epoch
of the Reformation, Holy Orders, as well as Matti-
mony,.' was held a, &eminent.. Thoogh in the Re;
formed Church they were hot. consideted as 'such ;.
yet, from time sanctity of the respedive Instittitionst
is 'Well as the didateS of the Law of the, Land; the/
CleTical Character was indelible, the Marriage state
indissoluble.—ln further illustration of this import.:
ant position, Ms LOrdship proceeded to state the
'various clerical attributes which attached to the in-
dividualt even after he had ostensibly relinquished.
hii aticred fundion, particularly the enjoyment of
Benefices. In these respeitsithe Cahon is folloWed
tip by the Lai,/ Of the Land; neither suSpension nor.
deposition could destroy the Clerical Character ; in
some points of ,vieW, the. degradation (so we
derstood the Noble Lord) had that effeel. The pros,
cess"of degradatiOn,, he explained, and Its partteu;
hie application in order. to legalize the execution of
a man ; but even with respcd to this, an ittstinee.
obtained,- as given by the Canonist LANP it LOTUS,
of a man,• who on his being pardoned, resumed
Clerical Charoder. With rasped: to •wh3t ought.
to be the Law, as his Noble Friend, had 'observed,
he was sorry to say, that. he differed from him most
fundamenttily. It was with grief he had to ob-
serve,.that it was not,one of the best symptoms of
the times,:that some were anxious to bring forward -,
a proposition, nip were ht liberty to renounce
the Clerical Charaaer. That the contrary doe-
trine may press hard Upon some iialividtialahe well
knew that should be a Consideration for those be_
fare they entered into the Holy. State. But the
great qUesfion v'lts, whether the 'interest 'of the
Public, upon the wkole, likely to he prevented;
by a constraint upon men who had come.
crated themselves to the Sevice of :God, to oblige
ahem to -continue in • that state, or by leaving
them at full liherty, Whenever their own. erroneous,
or perhar, , bad notions shoity prompt them, to for.,
sake it. Such-OjOtions would just as ftircibly
to the Law of Marriage ; the differenceOf temper's

in the individuals linked together, anA their respec-
tive inclinations, virtuous or vicious as they may he,
might contribute to render that a state of: unhappi-
ness ; still it was the. Law-of the Land, and just
as much soovith respell to the Clerical chttraaer.
With regartrto the second branch of aroboment the

eligibilit-y of Clergymen to sit in the Commons
House of Parliament, his Lordshp entered into a
very able and elaborate investigatinn, and --toOk-a-
'view of the. various authorities upon the subjed ;
their qualifications and right to sit formerly in
the respeaive Houses of Convocation, also came
under his consideration ;• hut with resped to the au-
thority of Speaker ONsLow, as adduced by his
Learned Friend, he contended it went in favour of
his Petition. He thought a positive Law on the
subjeft preferable to a Vote of either, House- of Par-
liament. With respect to what had obtained relative
to the Eleetion of RUSHWORTH, it was no disparage-
ment to any man, or body ofmen, to ad differently
upon better information, and farther consideration
of the subject. Resspetting theinueh-talked of case
of THOMAS HANKSEY, it wasi he obserV,ed, 'by no
means clear that, he was a _Member, at least his
name' did not appear among the official returns.-!-
He was, however, about the period in question,
sifting occasionally in the House as ,the Proxy of
the Earl of NOTTINGHAM, according to the custom
of those timzs ; and with regard to RUSHWORTH,
it was certainly clear, he did not take his Seat: as a

Clergyman. 'Pursuing -farthet the, con-clusion of the
ineligibility of Cletsgymen, he quoted' the 'Ob.
serrations' of BLACKSTONE'4pOn the celebrated case
of the Middiesex Eledion, as diredly applying to
the point, I,articidarly his idea of a Clergyman, whn
might be. the S',2,7be•veril of the day, startingagainst
Colonel L'UTTR E LI., and taking his seat ; would
not the House instantly decide agninSt the former
Yet it was contended by the authority that '.1,.11.KE:3,
u,ider the circumstances of his case, was then as in-
' eligible as a Clergyman would and the Writer
of jvniut's Letters, commenting .upon the: argu.
mutt Of_I3LACKTONF, denied the similitude be'.

tween \\. ts and, a Clergyman; observing,
however, that the ineligibility of the latter vvas
established, and known for A . period of more
than two hundred -years... Drawing towards a
conclusion, his Lordship oberved, that the pro-
Vidence of God had placed inch in diarent states
and situations of life. .He was t'avourable to politi-
cal vitality, as far as the same was consistent with
the interests of Order anti•the well being of.SOciety,
and, he trusted, that that Howe would,, either in
its legislative or judicial capacity, be governed by
that general 'principle, and particularly with iespetl
to the Bill..then beforethern, for which, he solemnly
declared, he should not be the advocate, but that
it asserted the Law of the Land, and went to dis-
franchise no man.-

-The Earl of MOIRA, after complimenting the
Noble and Learned Lord for his elaborate speech,
said, that in his mind, st mere doubt being enter-
taineti as to the existing Law of the Land, on this
subject, was. no sufficient • reason for .a legislative
enadment.which would go to deprive a large and
respedable body in the community of their rights,
If doubts were sufficient in such a cast, he would
only it was a good thing if no One raised doubts
respiaing the rights which their Lerdships held to
their estates. The Clergy had their rights, and
these could only be impeached by a distina Statute.
Admitting the Indelibility of the Clerical Charac-
ter, still the Noble and Learned Lord ought tO have
made good' his argument, by proving from this the
incapacity of Clergymen to exercise the fundion3 of
Members ',of the House of Corimons. The same
argument:Would hold equally good against the rights-
of' the Bishops to seats in that- House. He could
easily account for the reasons which operated in the
breasts of some Sovereigns, .when they rejeled the
Petitions of .the Clergy to the right of sitting in
the House. of Commons, nor was he at any loss to
find opt the inducement with the Clergy, who were
desiroui to get into the House; the fotmer, exert-
ing hiS ,authority and influence over them in. the
• way of taxation, and the Clergy wishing to mix
with the,Commons, io. order to avoid the severe
exadions of the -Sovereign • upon them as a distinct
body,. His Lotaiship declared, that he was con-
scientiously attached to the .church establiihed, and
that, he considered it to be one of the firmest props
of the Constitution ; on this ground he 'was led to.
oppose ,this Bill, as tending to weaken this prop.
On what ground did their Lordships wish to see
Bishops in their House, that did not exist, to a cer-
tain degree, in favour of the Clergy's being eligible
to sit in the House of Commons ? 'Were not their
Lordships desicous of availing themselves' of, and
reaping the benefit resulting from the morality, the
learning, and the influence of the Reverend PrelatesT
BUt if the reason,
.as assigned in the Ad of 1-64. t,
was. sufficient for excluding 'the Clergy from the
_Gammons viz, that it was improper they should have
interferenceany. in temporal matters, the same reason
held equally good for excluding Bishops from the
HOuse of Lords ; but in this case, where, he would
ask, would be the security for the Church of tlfe
Establishment ? The Ad, if adopted, ought, in his
opinion, to be taken up merely prospectively ; ard
he thought every good purpose would be answered,
if it was provided, that_no person holding a bene-
fice should be admitted to_ a 'seat in 'the flouse of
Conimons ; and also, that no Clertryman returned
to that House should be capable accepting any
'benefice; but as the An
.was now brought forward,
he considered it as a disfranchisement of the worst'
kind, by an ex pit -.MTh law, depriving a resped
able body of some of their dearest privileges.
Tho Noble and Learned Lord, had asked,. whether
any instance could be produced of a. clergyman,
dressed,in his gown and cassoc, claiming his seat ?
,i3ut, allowing that there was no such instance, no-
thing mote could be inferred, than that'the Clergy.
bad, erroneously perhaps, conceived themselvei
ineligible ; but such mistake ought by no means
to be made a handle fur disannulling ,their privi-
leges. The Learned Lord had 'referred to a Pamphlet
of judge BLACKSTONE, but he could Only say, that
he gave a, different exposition in his, Commentaries.
Upon the whole, viewing the Bill as rerrospeCtive,..
-His Lordship said, it appeared to him to be most.
opyreisiveond unjust.
The Bubcp- of ROCHESTER declared that he
onterratned no doubt concerning the indelibility of
the Clerical Character, but he had 'sonic respating

their ineligibility to sit in the House of Conuncre,
as well as to the expediency of stirring a questioc
of this nature at the present time. From the vies
lle had been led to take of the subje&, the Revercni
Prelate avowed his conviCtiop, that it Would by la
means be expedient to admit the Clergy to sir in th
other House. He declared that it was with nOlcs
surprize than sorrow, that he had heard what hat
fallen that' night from a Noble. acid Learned Loa
(Tit uR LO w), and that he had grounded his arquinen
upon the idea'. of the delibility of the Clerical` Charge
ter. The Learned Prelate Observed, thiiii t had become
costomary to raise ObjeCtions to certain principles, In
Charging them with being of Popish origin ; ha
such persons did hot distinguish those, from win'
existed id the Christian Church ere Pripery began
The Protestant Church- did not assert that Ordino,
don was a Sacrament ; but it was suflijent for Ilia
'to say, that Holy Orders:Were, of Divine Instil°•
tion, and that on this account the Clerical Chat*.
ter was indelible. But he would not argue this
point theologically ; it was sufficient for hitritt
say, that the law of the land cOnsidered the Clerica
Charatter to be indelible ; and even although J
Clergyman might have negleCted the duties of MI
profession for thirty years, and have afterwat4
committed certain crimes, lie would be uoleg a'
meltable to the Ecclesiastical Courts, and liable tt
be punished as. a person. in Holy Ordeo.--The
Learned Prelate then quoted and explained rise
_
meaning of .the Canon, which prohibits Cfergymeu
from voluntarily relinquishing their Cali;og, mitien''
ploying themselvei as Laymen His Lortiship ac-
knoWledged that neither -of these would necelillvons„ He declared he could by no
follow, . it' they were to have Seats in the lintbe°f
Comin
me.ins
scribe to that 'despicable puritaniql maxim, shat a
Clergyman 'might never. to .exercise him in 4
thing but in the immediate. duzie, 'of his cAlliag•
Most of our eminent Divines had conneaed °, Ilia
'sub!'
branches of Science with Theology, :trid had sl.g'''''
lised their names as Chronologists, IVlJilieniat;ciansf
Geptßetrieiansi. Historians,Philosophers, &C. such)
fits Lordship said, . were USHER,. PEARSON, il'lLi
R 0 v: ).;:faintedWA LI. Is, 'Be.C. i these great I),ivirea Were "i't,'
:•c ;:fainted with the praeticali business of the wer9'
nor, diddle think that the business :t' the Illa',b° 0t
Commons was totally wit onnet ;
ted. with the a,js
rc
of Divinity, for it was intermixed with t'
great principles of Political Justice and Alo''',"
lity, anti the Laws of Nature and Nations.
although ' lie did not think that 'Seats in I,''`
House of • 'Commons -were foreign, to, or '''
,Compatible with the clutraibr of Clergytile"'
any more than the office of justice of the l'ea'
still he felt strong .objeetions to, their entertAilitl
such views, and'that chiefly arising from the meal
by which 'they would be obliged to seek adatiti4"c
into the Lower House, such as op.. .i. 4,; !,o:lies lc,
'entertainment, 'displaying. flags, and trocklis,:,o
. every scaarian voter. Nor: was he less favour3ll,
to the Noble Earl's suggestion of confining the the
eligibility to such Clergymen as held benefices
_ice
saw no equity in such a distinction, whils4 bfii"lit
unbeneficed, it would hold out objets of am 1 , .
aL, rdst9P
,Fcc. For the reasons lie had stated, his
view cf the subjetl,
declared he would vote for the Bill. •
it'D stated his
The Earl .of WESTMORL,4'• d Lary
h they uaa
were two distinCt bodies ; and as ''',.`;
i our history;
been considered in the early periods 0 • „,,i ei.
for, when the former at in Parliament, It tit,
pressly and solely as the representatives r
-1 co
Clergy.' His Lordship then proceeded it),,,i 03,0
the subject on the grounds of ittimenlori,:., tend
of inexpediency) and 'of the effeEta it woJia to,
'helmet
to produce on the minds of the Clergy ,icreasing
as well as in the House of Commons, by' i,' c Llis.
"that the Clergy, an , , i
the influence of the Crown ; and front Ine:ted at
tine topics, on which his Lordship exl,'atl of Abe
some length, he expressed his approbation
present -hel Bill.. ' . • 0
. sliD
- lord HOLLAND objeaed to the Billo ? • ~
~ .tuttel ,
in his opinion an innovation on the COW' f their
a deprivation .of one large body of ini
es '
~f the
political rights, and also . of the commue,tY ' .10
benefit which might he derived from their learnl•ibe
if holding seats . in the..' House of.Cotn")°,ns.theei..
.Iteverend Prelate had agreed with him cattle
elusion of the-Clergy was not to be j.ustifteulait;
ground of the Indelibility of their Clersicaiqsortl of
and he was surprized to finci.his only obic`'.llto Or
-on account of . the manner of their gettlni; ' Lok
House. There were certain Bishops, 1;1's cite
ship said, who were not averse to that ea re.
Paterfering in political matters, who had evi oleic
..influence over them with respeet to the
commended it to there in their charges, and Liselt,hich
they (the • Clergy')v.otesq.oo ii
Members to serve in Parliament. 'I had l}r'y i ili-
t, aor
an argument against Clergymen sittino- o.l"ictoie
ment, that a permission of this sort wovukt' that A
should give for the fie' ',pule
the influence of the Crown. He &chum ,Cl,av
argument founded' upon this basis wAs-gnit..4a. lit'
from the quarter -Whence it had been advqci B,,ty,cit
Lordship . said, ' that.. from the,investigat!c%o'oo'
' had been made, it appeared that since 1114,- „3,005,
tion. of the Clergy had ceased to tax t''''' 17. fliP
there had been instanc6 of their sitting. ii' sir'
f 1" •
.
mew, • ;mil that in the controverted .case 0 .t,ithel'
woknOhe Committee had decided in fa ono 0,1,,,x •
Eligibility •,- but now, when a Ciergriont''.ie i'
t I.''
-Political sentiments were obnoX iotts if' l. ,if IP
Power, had gained , admittance, the Minot; rgi
day brought in this Bill Of Exclusion. 'Ws •'''. .„ras
, to
considered the present to be aharill ineasut,, I.oiitt,
the Clergy, and particularly .to thof; '' at
' ' * h4fl late`'' _
-frolti'conscientious motives, relinquish
to too,
their sacred functions, and. who, ..'it 11''''',' 11.'0 1°
rn their. :
oip
might be eminently qualified Ire, t'i trot to
serve_the public interest. His LordshiPA
j'ic'gra,
thisl might have been the case as to Del.T. L_,..vict.get
or others of great tornuiercial or Poli 601 101::,, „rot;
and that it would be a hard case to then?, .:"..,,'
ittoitol
dicial to the Public, if the elector wetelf°
- ..
~--lre
from chusing such men. .
Ilitined. • ,
'The Bishop' of ROCIIESTER- oil' ~,,,I, Luto
believed -the circumstance to which the 1`..,',,1-, ir, tp
had alluded- was that of a Bishop Of Si. Davi 1_,.. wpai
case of two .Parliarnentary Candiclares,one,i°,!i. Th:it
was known to 4ntortain Democratic ptnlells 'ice pi.
Prelate .bad not, indeed, introduced tlul7arw'o,,,t
'Letters to to" 1,00
but he merely wrote private
.. . 4 t ,
Circ 1
~...' or
particular Clergymen in his D
a Charge, nor, did he even wriitoeccse,
gi,i,4