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DEVOI4.-SOUTH HAMS.

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rr0,10; SOLD, entire, or separate, a CAPITAL
FREEHOLD ESTATE, consisting' of a spacious
Mansion• House, called BUTTERFORD, with new-huilt
Stables anti Offices walled Garden, and a very eligible Fann
adjUining the Mansion. •
The whole of the Lands contain upwards of 300 Acres, all
within a Ring-fence.
The Mansion-House is seated on an eminence, and is fit
for the Residence of a Man of Fashion. 'lmmediate Pow.s.
sic* may be had.
For Particulars apply to Mr. Luxmore, Red Lionn•sguare,
London ; or to Mr. Abraham, Ashburton, Devon.
N.II. A Pitreirascr may be accommoda.d with part of the
Lands only, or may enlarge his Purchase, ~t.ry considerably,
in the same Parish... '

TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION,
By Mr. BEST FLINT, •
At the Saracen's Wad, Ashford, Kent, on TuesdaY the 16th
of this Month, at Three teClock in the. Afternoon, unles4
previously disposed of by. Private Contra& of Which
timely notice willte given in.this Paper;
Very Desirable FREEHOLD ESTATE calledA
WAGSTAFIi, consisting of a substantial Earni house;
with the requisite Barns, and other Out-Buildings and
Fences, in good repair, alit several pieces of Arabic, 'Mea..:
clow, Pasture, and Woodland,, contatning in the whole Two
Hundred Acres and upwards; in a. Riug't encei!6itttatki iii
the several Parishes or Biddenclent Valclen, and Sidarden, in
the County of Kent, and now in the occupation of Mr,
Thomas Simmons, who will chew the Yterniscst. •
for further particulars, and to,treat lay•Private.contrael,
apply to the Rev. Mr, Barwick, at Charmg, near Maidstone,
; or to the Andioneer, at Ashford, whtre a Niap Of ti
Estate may be inspeded:
• N. B. The above has ahvays been considered as a Manor
Farm, having occasionally had a ao-li.vcrer appointed to

LAtnid AND GENTLEMEN,
AN Appeal has: been. made to a General -Court by
Fortv-three Proprietors, against the decision of the
Court of Diredors, when- the cendirel pf your. Executive
Body was approved by a very considerable majority. 'We
should have been satisfied if the business. had rested there;
but a ballot lists been demanded, which makes it. our hull- .
spensible ditty, not only to state briefly the nature of the
question, but to explain the motives:of some of those who
have been concerned in bringing.it forward.
On it former occasion, when the Company applied for a
renewal of their Charter, they experienced some difficulty,
and even opposition, from the Public at large : Mit after
fell disciassuin and mature deliberation, every wise and im-
partial person was satisfied, that India ought not to leccome a
Colony, and"thatit could only be adininisteriel in a safe and
beneficial manner, `politically as well as .commercially,
thrtnigh the medium of an exclusive Company. After va-
rious contentline, and even opposite. interests, had thus ac-
quiesced in this general
„principle, judge of our surprise
to find. Forty-three Proprtetors come forward to contend for
what, had been yielded by the Publiceat large ; and still more
to find, that a considerable part of them, Agents to the Mer-
chants in India, were personally interested in the decision of
the question.
The demand for a General Court was 'after we had .prods
teed a Report in defence of the rights, And even the existence
of the Company, which all the ingenuity of the Gentlemen
who called the Court, stimulated by the personal interest in
the question which many of them possessed, has not been
able toirepeach ; they, therefore attempted a very extraor-
dinaryenetieure, namely, that of -calling• forethe opinions of
the high and respectable Charaders now resideet in Europe,
who. have formerly been Governors General in India: This
proposal was, however, negatived in the General Court of.
Proprietors. .
Such a reference would, in Eta, have been an arbitration
bet Ween the Conitituent and the Executive Bodies, extreme:
ly invidious to the great. and respeaable charaCters whose
names were mentioeed on the occasion ; unconstitutiond in it-
self, and would have degraded the dignity of the Proprietors,
who alone possess the power of deciding, at the same time
that it wpula have proved humiliating to ourselves, after we
-had sought for information from every cud-teen:lit source.
The pretence was, .to brine home the surplus produce of
India; in order to conceal, it not its real objett, at least its
prominent feature., But this veil is completely drawn aside,
in a Letter from the first Merchant at Calcutta to the Board
of Trade,'at a time when the Merchants were not only en-
couraged to send their Goods to' Europe, but ships were of-
fered to convey , the same. He says, " It is true, that the
" Compav ffer us toauage pot broods at this time ; but the great
at objet? Is bring permitted to'send them ow own skip, ty
" which PileXtr we obtain tbeTrofit
.11freight, and have an appur-
" tunio.il leilleGtherwhe serviceable to our Pietas," ,
Shall British ships, hired by the. Company, and sent to
India for the express purpose of bringing home the Private
Trade, return with short cargoes, in order to gratify the • in-
terests and the patronage of individuals ? Experience induces
us to believe, that the owners of British ships need not tear
a contest with' those of India, in regular times. . Whilee our
seamen are chiefly employed against the Enemies of the-
country, their wages are high ; and Lascars will be folind,
at a much cheaper rate : but will you suffer British seamen
to be deprived of their bread for this reason, and for the emo-
lenient of persons resident in ledia ? On the other, band,
will it be endured to sec those wretched objets, , who perish
every Winter from the inclemency of the :climate, and, other
causes, increase to an indefinite number ? .Their place fault
be supplied, on the returning voyege,: by Europeans, who
may quit their ships, And fill India with-the worst kind of
adventurers, when•Lasears will again 'be substituted at
lower rate of wages. A. moment's retleition is sufficient to
perceive, that the return of the few reurainine Lascars et? Inr
' dia, emaciated in their health, and depraveden their minds,.
must prejudice the British name, and character in the eyes of
tlie;Natives ; and this prejudice the mannerseind conduct of •
European seamen, .carried out in Indian ships and left in the
country, • must greatly increase.
• Every considderation, therefore,- of humanity at well as
policy, combine to prevent rogress of ovils, which will
gradually introduce the colonial system, and thereby sap the
totindanon of our Indian Enipire.
The views of Mr. Derides on: the renewal of the Charter
were. to furnish the means of exporting British manuteitures
to the fullest extent ; to bring raw materials frolo rlt:ta ; to
open full scope to the remittance of thrtunes from•lndia ; and
finally, to crush,. or 'brine; to-the giver Themes, the elm,-
destine trade. The Company now- effete without any limit
as to the extent,. British ships to convey inenufeeinres to
India, and to bring raw materials from thence. llf fur-
-1 tunes to ha remitted home wore double or treble the amount,
the Conoerny would gladly recei4c the same in. India, to,be
paidler in Europe ; so that there only remains the clinch:e-
thic trade, as to whith the least dueler can exist, On this
subject, the Court, in their Report, trust I b y have demon-
strated, :beyond the possibility of eontradietioq; the very
strialt inaignificinCamohnt employed in this manner, Corn-,
pared with the, vast trade which has grown up .under ;the
auspices of the Company-; and even with the private.or pri-
vileged trade of individuals to and from India. It 'is oar this
however, the parties interested have raised a clamour;
.and having access to persons in .power, an impression has
been made, anti opinions produced,' on Which, they 'fourel
their pretensions. It is remarkeble, that amongst all the
voluminous papers which have appeared previous to the la-
bonts, of the. Committee, not a compleat ,document can he
found, and very rarefy the slightest ergemeht, in defence of
the rights of the Company, or'stating the dangerous conse-
quences which must result front the indulgences for whish
the Merchants in India.and their Agents at home contend.
Wc May therefore venture to assert, ehae•the Compaq
have scrupulously fulfilled their part of the ingagemeitt on
the renewal of the Charter ; that they have been fete/ant, on
every occasion, to extend, in the most liberal manner, every'
concessionand facility consistent with a` " regulated mono-
poly," which either Government or the Public can desire.;
They theretbre trust, that as they have strained indulgence
to so large an extent, those rights and privileges which have
been granted tar the preservation of their remaining excluslye
trade, will not be wrested troth them, to gratify a very few
individuals in short, that the rights of the Company, wino.'
tioned by the Legislature for the adventage 'of the Nation,
shall serve for more extensive purposes, than to cover an
adual monopoly of the trade to .India, far the benetjt of
Indian agents and Indian ships, which are the real objeCts
of the parties.
On the whole, we trust the views of the Dirators Will be
fottnd to, rest, not upon-partial grounds. and ,exclusive rights
alone, but upon great National foundations. •We cantiot,
however, attempt to convey to you, in a short Address's, all
the fads and ergennents which attach to this momentous que.
ation ; still less to explain the extensive and dangerous con.:
sequences which would flow froin the pretensioes of the Mer-
chants 'fettle, their Agetits and friends ; and which we are
persuaded will, by degrees (if admitted), prove fatal to the
British Empire there, and. terminate in the destruCtion of the
Company. We must therefore refer to our Rert on the
.occasion; and trust that your Votes, " for the Question oii
the Ballot," will enable us to defend the Rights and
ence of the Company, against a most powerful and datgeroui
C.'ornbination. •• We have trio honour to be, •
East-India House, Led* and Gentlemen, •
lure t, 1861. Your most faithful and
• Obliged humble Servants;
P. Le Mesurier D. Scott Chairman
John Kinship, C. Mills,Dep. Chairman
Thos. Theo. Metcalfe Freueis Baring -
Thomas Parry • W. Bensley •
Edward Parry • filcob Bosanquet
Abraham Roberts J..fitnith Binges
John Robrets.
_Joseph COMA:
George Tatena , Lionel Darell.
Geo. W. Thellusson .V, Elphinstont
R. Thornton Sinion l'raser
lohn Truvero
• Hugh

A TANTS. a SITUATIQN a young Man,
V V Twenty Years of, Age ; writes a good baud) knows
common AicebmptS wcll ; ha'S`sotne knowledge' of packtng,
and ma .tug up parcels'; would 'have' no objeiSlion to carry
ant parcels, fce. Has lived in Town tWo years., Can Non
a good CharAtter from his last place, and Security if 'required.
Please. to dirctt to „ S. No. :3; Carnaby.Street, Golden-
:quire,
-et•

The debate, or rather conversation which took
place in the Conitnittee, for many of the 4lcers who
spoke were several times on their feet, was between
the Earl of Rost.viv, the Lotus CHANCELLOR,
Lords CARRINGTON, GRENVILLE, HOBART,
ROMNEY, His Royal . Highness the DURE of
clomuNcE and the Earl of WAR wtcs:---In the
course of what fell from the first mentioned Peer, he
strongly recommended that the Committee should
not proceed on the Bill in its then state, as he ob-
served several hundred am ,alments, he vas pas; dire
he spoke within comre,,, has been made by the
Committee above stairs ; it would take several
hafts regularly to consider those amendments in
the Committee, and to introduce them into the Bill,
notwithstanding the assistance their Lordships would
receive from the 'Well known talents and expediti,'m
(Allis Noble Friend the Chairman, who caught the
sense of an Amendment as.seon as any manspos:iilly
could do ; added to thelx, w,c9 the consideration that
at feast twenty folio pages of the. Journals \N:ould ire
occupied in the insertion of those different Aineend.
merits. On these specific grounds, chiefly, the No-
U.: and Learned Lord seemed to recommend the
propriety of withdrawing the present sill, and in-
troducing a new one with as little delay as possible,
to which that now befoi'e the Committee should serve

as a model.
On this prOi)oaition, much conversation took place
between Lords CARRI N cTo:4, GRE t;',s r.i.E, the
-LORD CHANCE LLOR, the Earl of RosLyN, and
the Dula of CLARENCE ; the IWO 4 :ormer Peers
contending for the superior wisdom and propriety
of proceeding re4ularly viich the Bill then before
the_Committee, insisted, that t•lle, important alter.
Ations made by the Committee above. stairs vivre

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'try few, the -rent Wi t rrferelk verbal et eon.
sequential amendments, which, they observed, could
occasion by no means, sogrear a delay as that al.
lulled to by the Noble and Learned Lord..

The LOR U CII4NCELLOR supported what fell
from his learned Friend, respecting the Amend-
ments which had been made, and the superior con.
venience and expedition 01- withdrawing The pre-
sent, and introducing a new one on the amended
model.
'The-DaKE ARE NCE expreised-his appro:
bation of what had fallen from the Noble and Learn-
ed Lords, and moved, That the Chairman do leave
the Chair, and report. progress. ,

Lg.rd.GRE A:TILL Eexpressed his disapprobation
of this proceeditig, on the grounds on &vhich he al-
:ready opposed the 'idea 'originally urged by the
Noble and Learned Lead. afterwards, in a
Speech of some length, in which he manifrsted his
usual ability, adverted to the general principle and
leading provisions of, the Bill, as originally intro.,
&iced, both of which he vindicated with consider-
able elfeet, and panegyrised the labours of the Se.
left Conortittee of their Lordships, which had pro.
diteed a- meisure likely to be of ;such beneficill
eotyequences as that before their Lordships. In
the course of. the Noble Lord's observations on this
point, he adverted to the grounds on which the
framers of the Bill had.acted it was not on 'any of
these foolish and .flippant doctrines which were so
.incautiontly and frequently promulgated in the pre.
sent day.; they took no Idle-theories for their guide,
or any floating popular opinions, but were guided
by sound and unerring experience ; and he prinei.'
.. pally expressed his repugnance to any propositions
tending to trench upon. legal Ecclesiastical Esta-
blishments, or any Measure for a,general Conunu.'
talion for Ty then.
Lord CAR kINGTON expressed his concurrence
in the greater part of what had fallen from his Noble
Friend who had spoken last: ' lle likewise explain-
-ed respeding the conduit of the Board of Agri-
. culture, with regard ,to the Surveyors, in conse-
quence of some of their ,reports, which, to a certain
di-gree, had been rather unfavourably alluded to by
some of their Lordships in the course of the debate.
Lord I?oMNEYekpressed his sentiments shortly,
which seemed :for the roost part. to be similar to
those. delivered by Lords CARRINGTON and GREN-

VILLE.
I llir Rqyal Ifigbiess the DUKE of CL ,fRENCE.
,after so►ne farther conversation 'bad taken piacei
agreed to withdraw his motion for the Citairthan's*
leaving the chair.
The various Clauses and Provisions of the Bill
were then regularly proceeded with, and numerous
Amendments,, which were proposed by Lord CAR-
R rNoTov, were adopted by the Committee.
On tl-e occasion of those ClaUses relating to the
regulation of •Tythes,' &c. under the operation of
the Bill,
The LORD CHANCELLOR expressed his dis.
approbation of the pro Pored regulations, as repug-
nant to the whole policy of the Law of the Land
respecting Ecclesiastical Establishments, principally
as they went to confer a power on the Incumbent
without reference to the rights of the Patron or Or-
dinary ; and observed., that when the debate upon
such measure came regularly before the House, he
thould have. to trouble their Loidship's an some
length on those points. He then referred to cer.
tam parts.of the reports of the Surveyors, of which
he decidedly •expressal his disapprobation.
Lord CARRINGTON, in explanation, stated his
ideas respeCting the consideration of Tythe,. as it
related,to the progress of .Agriculture, and. seemed
to say, that what was suggestedby the Noble Lord
was not intended, by:the framers of the Bill. Some
Amendments reqeaing that Ha of the Bill'were,
as we could c.bserve afterwards, made by the Corn-

rnittee.
The whole being gone through, the House re.
stinted, and ordered the Report to be received to

morrow. - 1
The Duke .of BEDFORD moved the names'of a
*lumber of Peers to constitute the Committee order-
ed by the House to take its Standing Orders on Bills
of Inclosure into consideration, and which list of
Peers, as moved by the Noble Duke, was • ordered
to form the Committee.

The second reading of the Clerical Exclusion Bill
was deferred until Friday.
Their Lordships then disposed of some routine
business, and adjourned till to-morrow,

HOUSE OF CGMMONS.

TUESDAY, JUNE 2.

A Bill for granting 11%,1r. K.-oor I; a Patent formaking Paper
from Straw, &c. was read a third time:and passed.
A Message: froth the Lords stated, that .their Lordships had
agreed to several Private Bills. t. .
• A Person from the Post-Ottice presented several Accounts.
The Report of the Committee ::.ppointed to consider of
Kish Expirmg Laws, was brought,up several of the Re-
solutions were postponed, Ow rest were agreed to, and Bills
were ordered to be brought thereon.

Mr. WILL:A.cs i)t;tonnsgave notice, that on Monday he
should. Move for the Ilouse to resolve itself into a Commit-
tee, to- take into consideration the East-India Aix:mints pre-
sented on the. lith-of May.
Lord Far.xyrorir., after commentini shortly upon. a 1'
Pamphlet written to prove the improper praCtiees of Persons •
in the Corn Trade, lave notice, that die. should on Monday
move for leave: to bring in a Bill make: some regulations
won the subject. Ila did not expect that at so late a pe-
riod of the Session, it could go through, both 1-louses ; his in-
tention therefore was,. with theliermission of the house, to
bring in the have it .read a first tune and printed, and
them that it should stand over toneit Sessions ; in flys. mean
time- Gi;ntlerirn would have an• opportunity of considering
the subjeet ma torelv.
Mr. j 9Ngs ntuvij'for an Account ofthe Items of the sum
of 2,6; 2,4 z set forth iii the Papers presented on the Bth of
Mav, as a debt:due-from the Government to the East-India
Company hi:intended to have made the Motion yesterday,.
but Gentlemen on the othe.r.side- of the House did not attend
in their places. - • •
Mr. WILLL4M DUND4S said he no ohjeaion to the
produaion of tit;: Paper in question, but It was. rather'Singo;•
lar.to Charge Gentleni;:n on his (Mr.- W. Du:4)A 5,5) side of
House With not attending their duty in Parlianient. 'The
Motion was then agreed to.
The Report of Lady ARE a caon.tav's Pension 13311 was
brought up and agreed.to, and the Bill was ordtled to be read
a third time . :
On the Motion of Mr. Coa.s.y ' , the Bill for contiiiiiing..:se,
verallemporary Laws in Ireland, the Irish Spirit --Licence
Bill, the Irish Stamp
,Duty. Bill, and the Irish Distillery
Eiii, 'were each read a second time, and ordered to _be com-
mitted to-morrow.
The Conunitt;+ on the iklasters and Servants-B:2, arid the
second r;:ading of the .COnst:.hies AlloWance- Bill, were put
(atill to-morrow: • -
- The third readinr; of the Bill for allowing the warehousing
and bonding Portugal Wines, was put (anti toi.niorrow.