The Sun.
London, England, 1865-11-18 00:00:00

FRANCE.

BOURSE, Nov. 17.—Two o'Clock.—The market
is heavy, and Stocks and Shares are dealt in at
lower rates. Threes, for the Account, are at 68f.
35c. Italian Fives are offered at 68f. 10c., with a
decline of 15c. Credit Mobilier Shares are quoted
with a fall of 3f. 75c., and Spanish Mobilier of 2f.
50c. In the Railway Department Southern Shares
have declined If. 25c., and Lombards 7f. 50c. The
latter are quoted at 393 f. 75c. Saragossa are 2f.
50c. lower. Lyons Shares are done at 823 f. 75c.
The telegrams from London announces a fall of if
per cent. in Consols. Three o'Clock.—Very little
change has taken place during the last hour. The
market left off as follows :-
4-} per Cents 96 80
Do. end month —
3 per Cents. 6B 35
Do. end month 6B 35
Credit Mobilier
Do. end month
Bank Shares 3700
Credit Foncier 1322 50
Italian Loan 65
Do. end month 65 12
RAILWAYS.
Cash.

Ditto Threes —
Roman 74
Mexican Loan 49
Do. Bonds 325
Russian -
Austrian
Spanish Threes
Home Debt —
Deferred

Acct.
... 822 50
... 1098 75
~. 823 75
... 567 50

Orleans
- Northern
Lyons and Mediterranean '
Southern
Western
Eastern — ... 517 50
Sardinian
Austrian
Lombard — ... 392 50
North of Spain — 180
Saragossa — 206 25
Ditto to Barcelona — --
Roman

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.60 --

France, Mexico, and the United States

(Prom the Times' Correspondent.)

WASHINGTON, Nov. 2.
On my way through this city to Richmond I have
seen some of the English newspapers of the 17th of
October, denying the accuracy of the statement I
sent you concerning a despatch from Mr. Seward to
the United States' Minister at France on Mexican
affairs. Ido not know what was the " official autho-
rity" upon which my letter was contradicted, but I
do know that the authority I had for the informa-
tion sent to you was far higher than any which
could be obtained in England at that date. Indeed,
it was not probable that any one in London could have
heard of the despatch to which I referred, since it was
only sent to France a few weeks immediately pre-
ceding my letter. Without, however, discussing these
contradictions, it is my duty to inform you that
the news I sent on October 4 was substantially true.
I professed only to give the "tendency" of the de-
spatch, but I am now in possession of further par-
ticulars on the subject,whichlgive to you as correct
to the very letter. Time will show whether my news
from Washington or that which is obtained in Lon-
don is most worthy of belief.
One English journal states that had the Egyptian
force to which I referred ever been organised, the
fact must have been known in London before' it
came to public knowledge in this country. In that
case it is curious that no one in England should
have known that Nubian troops have actually been
in Mexico as part of the French force ever since the
Emperor Napoleon went there. If anybody in
London knows better than Mr. Seward on this
point, then I must be wrong ; not otherwise. The
Pasha of Egypt offered to organise a force of
Nubians for the service of the Emperor Napoleon in
Mexico. They were sent, and are in Mexico at this
moment. Mr. Seward's recent despatch was pro-
voked by the fact that the United States' Consul at
Alexandria sent word to his Government of a fresh
Nubian force being fitted cut for service in Mexico
to replace that sent nearly four years ago. When
the first force was despatched the American Go-
vernment was not in so good a position to take ex-
ception to the proceeding as it is now. It had then
a domestic war on its hands which taxed all its
energies. It has now under its authority a people
exasperated at what they regard as a flagrant viola-
tion of a favourite principle, known as the " Monroe
doctrine," and demanding that the French should be
compelled to withdraw from this continent. Before
proceeding any further with my own statement, let
me quote part of an article from last night's New
York Evening Post, a journal of moderate character
and considerable influence. The article is founded
on the news I sent to you on the 4th ultimo, and,
although the extract is rather lengthy, it is worth
reading with attention :
" We suppose the English journals are right in discredit-
ing the Times' report. There is no reason to believe that
Mr. Seward has yet made a firm declaration to the Empe-
ror of the nature reported. The Star, which positively
contradicts the rumour, seems to speak by authority'—
which means after communication with Mr. Adams.
Nevertheless, it would be the wisest course in our Govern-
ment to notify Napoleon that he must send no more troops
to Mexico. If he can be made to understand plainly and
certainly that he has gone to the length of his tether there
—that the next step will assuredly, get him into trouble
that unless he intends to go to war with the United
States he must stop at once all intermeddling on this
continent ; if by honest, plain language he could be
convinced of the real state of sentiment here and o.

the danger ho is drifting into, we might hope to avert
a war between the two countries. But, incurable tem-
porizer as ho is, persistent trickster, always trying how
far he can go, how near he may shave Point Dan-
gerous, easy words and an uncertain attitude on our
part are sure to tempt him to overstep his safe limits. We
hope, therefore, that the President, if he has not already
administered to Napoleon, not a menace, but a serious
warning, will do so at once. In such affairs delays are
dangerous ; trifling will drift us into war, and no patriotic
American wants another war with anybody. Let Mr
Seward 'tell Napoleon to get out of Mexico.' That is all
we need. Congress will meet in 30 days. One of its first
acts will be to overhaul our relations with France. In
April, 1864, while we were in the middle of a great war,
and had our hands full, the House of Representatives passed
by a Unanimous voto tho following resolution :
" Resolved, ecc.— That the Congress of the United States
are unwilling, by silence, to leave the nations of the world
under the impression that they are indifferent spectators of
the deplorable events now occurring in the Republic of
Mexico ; and they therefore think fit to declare that it does
not accord with the policy of the United States to acknow-
ledge a monarchical Government erected on the ruins of
any republican Government in America, under the auspices
of any European Power.'

We have since triumphantly concluded our war. Does any
one believe that Congress will careless now about theFronch
usurpation in Mexico than it did at a time when our own
perpetuity as a nation was endangered ? A war with France
can be brought about only by the blunder of .suffering
Napoleon to believe that we are not in earnest. The coun-
try will hold to a strict account any one whose official ut-
terances shall cause such a fatal misunderstanding. It is
certain that all parties in this country are determined the
French shall go out of Mexico. Congress will hasten, no
doubt, in December to express that opinion ; and what the
nation wants and Congress declares will be accomplished,
whether the Emperor of the French likes it or not."

That these words express the feeling of the
American people is absolutely certain. If any
one doubts it, let him come out here and ascer-
tain the truth for himself. Under correction, I
submit that America is a more favourable stand-
point for judging of the tone of American feel-
ing than London. The people, I repeat, would
rather go to war with France than see her remain
in Mexico. You will not find this statement con-
tradicted by a single journal in all America when it
is re-published out here from the Times. They
would, of course, much prefer that France withdrew
peaceably ; but if she will not do that they mean to
make her go. That is their own language, used at
every public meeting, and at every dinner table, and
in every paper, from Maine to California. General
Grant has over and over again made known his dis-
.content that France is not pressed to leave Mexico
In point
before the army under him is disbanded,