The Sun.
London, England, 1862-06-28 00:00:00

THE RED SEA TELEGRAPH.

The report of the amendment on this bill having been
brought up,
Lord REDESDALE objected to the loose manner in
which the bill was drawn up. After the liabilities incurred
by the Government with respect to the guarantee to the
previous company, it was very desirable that both the com-
pany and the Government should know exactly how they
stood.
The Earl of CAMPERDOWN agreed in every respect
with the noble lord. He had expected to find a contract in
the schedule, but it appeared 'there was only an arrange-
ment between the Treasury and the Company. He ob-
jected to a liability of two millions being incurred in this
loose manner.
The Duke of ARGYLL said that after a full inquiry a
committee of the House of Commons had reported in
favour of the guarantee to the company which had failed.
The Government thought it was too great a risk to restore
the cable at their own expense, but a new company
had coirie forward and offered to do so if they
were guaranteed a profit of 25 per cent. in the event of the
experiments being a success. There was, therefore,no risk
to the Government, and he contended that it was fully pro-
vided for in the bill.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said the bill made the best
of a bad bargain, for without it a sum of £BOO,OOO was actu-
ally lost,whereas now without any further risk in the event
of failure it might be turned to account. As regards the
validity of the agreement he thought the bill defective,
and suggested an addition to the first section, which would
make it perfectly clear and binding.
PRIZE MONEY.

The Earl of HARDWICKE called the attention of the
house to the claims made for prize money on account of the
capture of Kertch, and complained that they had not been
recognised.
The Duke of SOMERSET said that case had assumed a
very complicated character, in consequence of the applica-
tions not having been sent in until after the lapse of six
years, and in consequence also of the share which the
French and Turkish forces had taken in the expedition.
The Admiralty, however, had done all in their power to
induce the Treasury to recognise the claims.
Earl GREY and the Earl of DERBY strongly condemned
the conduct of the Government in not recognising those
claims, which were founded on an act of Parliament and on
the Queen's proclamation. It was stated that the Cabinet
were divided upon the subject.
Earl GRANVILLE said that the Cabinet could net be
divided upon the matter, as it had never been made a Cabi-
net question.

Mit. EL 1.01 dnivir.a.

In reply to a question from Lord CHELMSFORD,
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he had resolved
on immediately removing the name of Mr. Edwin James
from the list of Queen's counsel. He should have taken
that step at an earlier period were it not that he wished to
afford Mr. James an opportunity of appealing to the judges
from the decision of the benchers in his case.
Certain bills were then forwarded a stage, and their lord.
ships adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—YESTERDAY.
The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lords' amendments to the following bills were con
sidered and agreed to and ordered for third reading :
Bala and Dolgelly Railway—Corwen and Bala Railway—
Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Railway (Addi-
tional Powers).
The Munbee's Divorce Bill was read a third time and
passed, and the Macintosh Farr Fund Bill was read a second
time.
POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) (No. 2) BILL.
The house went into committee on this bill, and resumed
the consideration of the bill at clause 21, which relates to
the dismissal of poor-law officials for incapacity by the
commissioners.
On a motion of Sir H. BRUCE, that the boards of guar-
dians should be joined in the power of dismissing these
officials, a discussion of some length ensued, in the course
of which it was contended that the adoption of the amend-
ment would disturb the harmony that subsisted between
the commissioners and the board of guardians. Ultimately
the amendment was withdrawn.
Mr. COGAN then moved an amendment to the effect
that such officers as the commissioners could dismiss should
not be dismissed without the approval of the board of
guardians, which was also withdrawn,
Mr. COGAN then moved an amendment substantially
the same as the preceding, and the committee divided.
For the amendment 29
Against 54
Majority
Mr. SCULLY, adopting the suggestion of Mr Maguire,
in the course of the discussion moved the insertion of a
proviso—that inability to be elected a guardian for five
years should extend to cases only where the dismissal
of officials had taken place for a criminal offence, on which
the committee divided—
For the amendment 25
Against
Majority
The clause was then agreed to, as was also clause 22.
On clause 23,
Col. GREVILLE moved an amendment to the effect
that the Chief and Under Secretary for Ireland should
cease to be members of the Poor-law Commission.
Sir G. GREY objected to the amendment, as it would
deprive Government of the responsibility which he thought
it was desirable for the public should not be the case.
Mr. SCULLY said he would agree to the motion if the
amendment were adopted. lie drew the attention of the
committee to the facts, that out of the five members of the
Poor Law Board, four were Englishmen, and not one a
Roman Catholic. He objected to such a constitution, and
considered that the Commissioners should all be Irishmen,
three Roman Catholics, one a member of the Church Es-
tablishment, and the other a Presbyterian.
Some discussion followed, and
Colonel GRENILLE consented to modify his amend-
ment, by allowing the Chief Secretary for Ireland to retain
his place at the Board, provided the Under-Secretary were
removed.
Sir R. PEEL said he agreed with some of the speakers,
that the Roman Catholics should be represented at the
Board ; and he believed that if any alteration took place,
such would be the case. However, he could assure the
committee that nothing could exceed the impartiality of the
members of the Board; and he trusted that the Under-
secretary would not be removed from the Board, consider-
ing the ability he displayed.
After a few words from Lord J. MANNERS and Mr.
MAGUIRE, the amendment was withdrawn.
Lord NAAS moved an amendment to the effect that the
be
chargedea chargeability, commissioners should be continued in office for five years
instead of three years longer, but the amendment was
withdrawn after some discussion.
The clause, which was the last of the bill, was then
agreed to.
Sir R. PEEL then moved the first clause, which
repeal had been postponed, and which related to the
of the existing enactments as regarded
char
alleviation should By the alteration proposed paupers should
to the electoral divisions of the union where
they
had beenand
the longest resident, lived for not less
than two Years as aforesaid, and that every other pauper
electoral
should be chargeable
who received to the union at large. It was provided
that this
after thep passing of the present
act, those whobeing chargeable
to the union or division da l
were now receiving relief yfrom only
to
which those
wereeey personsa
relief
at
present receiving relief.
J3LAIiE moved AA amendment to the effect that the