The Sun.
London, England, 1865-11-27 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, MONDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 27, 1865.

MARKETS—This Day.

MARK-LANE.
The trade for wheat in the country markets, held on
Saturday, ruled quiet, and although the quotations were
rather drooping the changes from the previous week were
chiefly confined to damp produce. Most descriptions of
spring corn were in but moderate request, at about sta-
tionary prices. The flour trade was steady, on former
terms. .

On the Continent the wheat trade is quiet, at about
previous quotations. Spring corn, however, is tolerably
firm in price. At New York shipments of wheat and flour
have been on a more extensive scale to Europe.

Fresh up to our market to-day the arrivals of home-
grown wheat were very moderate, and the bulk was re-
ceived in but middling condition. The trade for good and
fine dry samples ruled steady, at the full prices of Monday
last. Damp produce, however, sold heavily at the recent
decline in the quotations.
The supply of Continental wheat on sale was moderate,
but with American and Canadian descriptions the market
was scantily supplied. The trade, generally speaking, was
by no means active ; nevertheless, prices ruled tolerably
firm.

Floating cargoes of grain were in but moderate request,
at late rates.
With barley the market was more freely supplied. The
demand for all qualities ruled quiet ; nevertheless, prices
ruled firm. Fine malting parcels were scarce, and changed
hands at high rates.
The demand for malt ruled quiet, but without leading to
any material change in prices from Monday last.
The supply of oats on sale was very moderate. For
most qualities there was a steady demand, and prices ruled
firm.

Beans were in short supply, and the trade ruled firm at
:ull currencies.

There was a fair demand for peas, at full quotations.
The supply on offer was very moderate.

Most descriptions of flour were in fair demand, at quite
previous rates.

CURRENCY PER IMP. MEASITRE.

Wheat—Essex and Kent, red, new, per qr. 39s to 46s
Do., old 46s 51s
Do., white, old s4s 59s
Do., new
Norfolk and Lincoln, red, old —s —s
Do., new
Talavera, new s2s 60s
Rye—
Barley—Grinding ' 288 31s
Malting '33s 40s
Malt—Suffolk and Norfolk

Brown
Kingstown and Ware
Chevalier 66s 67s
Oats—Yorkshire and Lincolnsh., Feeding 20s 24s
Potato
Youghal and Cork, black l9s 25s
Cork, white 2ls 26s
Scotch, Feeding 2os 24s
Beans—Tick
Pigeons ... 43s 48s
Peas—Grey, new

Mal
White
Boilers
Flour—Town-made, per 2801 b
Suffolk 32s 34s
Stockton and Norfolk
American, per barrel 26s 31s

5,000 bales, of which about 3,000 bales were from the Cape
of Good Hope.
Current prices of English wool per lb.
sd s d
Fleeces—South Down hogets 1 8 1 9
Half-bred do 1 11/ 2 0/
Kent fleeces IHI 2 0
South Down ewes and wethers 1 8 1 8
Leicester do
Sorts—Clothing
Combing • 1 5 2 0

Mr. Bright and the Refoim Question.

A reform meeting was held at Birmingham on
Thursday night ; Mr. J. A. Patridge in the chair.
The following letter from Mr. Bright was read :
" Rochdale, Nov. 18, 1865.

" Dear Sir,—l am very glad to hear that you are
about to hold a meeting on the reform question, and
I hope it will be such as the cause deserves and re-
quires. I have already engaged to come to Birming-
ham about the first week in December, to a reform
meeting, at which it is expected several members of
Parliament will be present, and at which I hope a
large number of electors and influential inhabitants
of the borough will be present. I think I cannot
with advantage attend the two meetings, and that
I shall be most useful in being present at the
one at which I have already undertaken to be
present. Under these circumstances I should
certainly have accepted your invitation. lam very
anxious to see the unenfranchised class making
some demonstration on behalf of their political
rights. The majority of the electors are willing
to concede a large portion of what you wish ;
but it is necessary that you should make your
voice heard in the matter. I believe, too, that the
Government is well disposed, but they will require
help to enable them to carry any good measure
through Parliament. It will be of great advantage
if you can have any influence on the working men
of your populous district. Would it not be possible
to have representative men from the neighbouring
towns to appear on your platform, and take part in
your meeting ? I hope your committee will excuse
me if I am not present with you, under the circum-
stances which I have now explained to you.—l am,
with great respect, yours truly,

" JOHN BRIGHT."

Mr. J. OXFORD moved the first resolution, which
was as follows:—" That this meeting adopts as a
principle the right of manhood suffrage ; as a pro-
tection the ballot ; and as a policy the duty of ac-
cepting such instalments as may be attainable."
The resolution having been seconded and supported
by several speakers, the chairman was about to put
it to the meeting, when a gentleman rose in the
body of the hall, and said that he desired to
propose an amendment. On ascending the plat-
form, he announced himself as " Mr. Samuel
Owen, of London, the Hyde Park orator."
He went on to argue that the resolution did
not go far enough, and moved as an amendment :
" That so much of the resolution as alluded to in-
stalments of reform' be omitted." The amendment
was seconded by a gentleman in the body of the
hall ; but when .put the chairman declared it lost,
though the numbers appeared equal. Mr. Oxford
next rose, and said he was rather suspicious of this
gentleman from London, and for this reason. A
gentleman called upon him that afternoon, and said,
" If you will go to the meeting to-night, and use
every means in your power to upset it, advocating
the whole Chartist programme, or anything else
you like, to prevent the meeting coming to an un-
animous vote, I will introduce you to a noble lord,
who will pay your demand, let it be whatever you
like." (Interruption, and loud cries of " Name.")
He would not mention the name openly, but he
would give it to any number of gentlemen nomi-
nated by the meeting, and if it was not true he would
suffer any penalty they liked to name. (Loud cries
of " Name.") Well, he would give the name.
(Cries of " No, no," and " Name ;" the " Noes "
preponderating.) Well, he would not mention the
name, but he pledged his honour, his whole
existence, his public reputation on the truth of
what he said, and which he was prepared to prove.
He should write to the noble lord whose name was
mentioned, and if the affair turned out to be true,
he should certainly publish the the correspondence.
(Hear, hear.) Mr. Owen rose excitedly, and was
greeted with a storm of groans. He said—l am
going to tell you something very like what my friend
has said. I tell you that, though you may not think
that from my appearance, I have been lionised by
members of the aristocracy. (Laughter.) A lady,
who introduced me to the house of a Cabinet Mi-
nister, said to me, "If you would make headway
with the aristocracy you must give up speaking in
the open air." (Laughter.) My answer to that,
not given to the lady, but to some one else, was " Go
to Jericho." (Loud laughter.) I believe what Mr.
Oxford said. lam known as the Hyde-park ora-
tor, and as such I have been persecuted ; but is it
now, after years of suffering and privation, owing to
my steadfastness to principle, that I am going to be
bribed by the Tories—miserable Tories ? I scorn it.
(Laughter, amidst which the gentleman resumed his
seat.) Mr. Church then moved, " That, having
regard to the time-honoured name of Russell, and
the great services and high reputation of Mr. Glad-
stone, this meeting expresses its confident hopes that
a large instalment of political rights will now be
conceded to the working manhood of this country,
and that the principle of manhood suffrage will be
recognised as the basis of our representation." The
resolution was adopted, and at a subsequent period
of the meeting Mr. E. Beales said he trusted the
statement of Mr. Oxford would be sifted to the
bottom, for there was nothing the Tory party would
not do to prevent the triumph of their cause. (Hear,
hear.) From what he knew of Mr. Owen, who
moved the amendment, he felt sure that he was not
the emissary employed.

Mr. E. Potter, M.P., on Schools of Art.

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On Thursday night Mr. E. Potter, M.P., was
present at the distribution of prizes to pupils of the
Carlisle School of Art, and made a speech upon
the position and prospects of provincial schools of
art. He said that since their last meeting a com-
mittee of the House of Commons had presented a
long report, with evidence. That committee re-
commended a capitulation grant—they did not men-
tion what amount—to be given to artisan classes.
Their next recommendation was that there should be
no building grants. The committee thought also
that the accounts of grants to South Kensington
should be more clearly made out. Shortly after
Parliament met the new minutes were sent out, and
they found that South Kensington declined carrying
out the recommendations. They declined capitation;
they adhered to their resolution of giving building
giants ; and they said nothing about the accounts ;
but in their first report after this no accounts were
published—the first time they had been omitted
for 10 or 15 years. He remonstrated. with Mr.
Bruce, but meanwhile Parliament was sent to the
country. The Department having taken its own
course some of the committee felt rather annoyed,
and their chairman, Sir Stafford Northcote, sum-
moned some of them together. They did not know
what to do, and a great many of them having sat
10 or 15 days on the subject were tired of it, and
therefore concluded that the best plan would be to
get the country schools to appeal to Lord Gran-
ville. A large deputation went up, and succeeded
almost in getting what would probably have
the effect of doubling their allowance. There was
nothing now left but to test the thing, and to rely
more upon their own efforts than upon Government
grants. The department had taken its own course,
and relied upon its own system. The yearly grants
to South Kensington were from £130,000 to
£140,000. Some £30,000 or £40,000 of that was
employed in decorating South Kensington ; a large
sum for the purchase of articles for the museum ;
and the principal schools came in for what was left.
He did not wish to detract from the merits of South
Kensington. Its drawing school was the finest in
the world ; and they were indebted to it for a large
number of able masters, but he was most anxious
that they should have educational grants separated
from .South Kensington. Till they got that he was
certain they should never get any satisfaction.
(Hear, hear.) What the Department had done
fell very far short of what was due to the coun-
try. The entire number of art students last year
was 16,500 in ninety schools, and when they
considered, as he ventured to assert, that very
little above one-half of them were artisans, and
that the Department and the Government bad been
urging on artisan education for nearly 20 years, he
thought that result was most miserable. (Hear,
hear.) He believed if the capitation system sug-
gested by the committee had been followed, they
would have had, instead of some 8,000 or 9,000
artisans, some 30,000 or 40,000 in course of educa-
tion. (Hear, hear.) County schools could not be

self-supporting; they must have liberal subscriptions.
They could not class art schools under the head of
charity schools. They were exceedingly valuable,
and gave a sound education in scientific drawing
up to a certain standard. But the artisan could not
afford to pay for it himself. It had been said in
the committee, and advised by Mr. Cole himself,
that they should raise the rates if schools did not
pay. He himself thought the rates were high
enough, and his own feeling was that they should
be lessened ; and that it was a class of education
which Government ought to support, otherwise
it could not be carried on. The cotton
districts had recently felt that whole towns
should not be devoted to one trade, but unless
they had educated workmen they could not
make the change. Art classes would supply
that want. The state of art education was not
what it ought to be. But their only course now
was to work it out as best they could, and if in the
course of a year or two they thought they were
wronged they had the means of redress, and he
hoped advocates more powerful than himself would
be found for an alteration of the whole system.
(Cheers.)