The Sun.
London, England, 1865-10-03 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 3, 1865.

GREAT ST. JAMES'S-HALL.—WORLD of
MAGIC, Second Sight, and " Begone, Dull Care,"
every evening at 8. A Day Performance. Saturday, at 3.
" The most varied entertainment in the metropolis."—Vide
the Press. Admission, ls.

PROFESSOR and the Misses ANDERSON.—
Farewell season. World of Magic. Second Sight, and
the original Indian Basket Trick, in conjunction with Fre-
deric (the great) Maccabe, the unrivalled ventriloquist, mimic,
and character actor.

VREDERIC MACCABE, Ventriloquist, Mimic,
&c., in his original entertainment, "Begone, Dull Care,"
"Miss Mary May," " Early in the Morninz." Balcony, 2s ;
reserved seats, 35.; stalls, ss. ; at Kr. Austin's oltice, St.
James's•hall, 23, Piccadilly.
A. NIHAU), Acting Manager.

CHRISTY MINSTRELS, St. James's Hall,
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CHRISTY MINSTRELS Every Night at 8, Saturdays at 3
and 8, retaining all the specialties and old favourites who
originally created the reputation of the Company. Faut•uils,
55.; stalls, is • unreserved seats, 2s. ; gallery. ls. Tickets at
Austin's, 28, Piccadilly.—Manager, Mr. Frederick Burgess.

rill HE X F O R D.
6, OXFORD STREET, W.
The Orford and Canterbury Hall Company (limited).

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SIXTY-SIX, by J. Offenbach, performed by
Hisses Russell, Barrie, Walmealey, Tyrell, Ellen Reid, Ma-
dame Maria, and Miss Fitz Henry ; Messrs. A. St. Albyn,
Husk, and Green, with full Bandjand Chorus.
Conductor, Mr. F. Jonghmans.

Ballet, Comedy, Burlesque, &c., by_ the celebrated D'Au-
bans. Messrs. Duriah and Davis, and the Misses TESSY
and SARA GUANISS.

NO rIcE. —The Oxford has been entirely Redecorated,
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the most agreeable places of resort in the kingdom.—OPEN
EVERY EVENING at Eight o'clock.
The Classical Ballet, entitled THE BRIDAL of BEAUTY,
in which the Misses TESSY and SARA GUNNISS will
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Admission—.A.rea, 43d.; etalla and balcony, ls.; private
boxes, 10s. 6d.

CANTERBURY HALL.
KO KO RI KO.
This wonderful entertainment, having proved the greatest
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talent of the establishment.

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comedy, Burlesque, and Ballet by Mrs. and Mr. Randall,
Messrs. Durlah and Davies, the D'Aubans, and Arthur
Lloyd.
Director, Mr. F. Jongmans.

All visitors to London at this season should see the above
entertainment.

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NEW ADDITIONS.—In accordance with the season, the
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Admittance, One Shilling; Extra Rooms, Sixpence.

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Doors open at half-past 8 o'clock; close five minutes to 12
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• han 455 poor, friendless, young females were rejected irom
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F. v., aged 16, fallen, mother dead, deserted by her father.
M. A. F., aged 13, homeless, both parents dead.
4. 8., aged 17, fallen, father dead, deserted by her mother
3. D., aged 15, fallen, mother dead.
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SHERMAN, TIIE HERO OF THE GREAT MARCH !
As he rides out of Gaylesville on this desperate
seeming enterprise we catch a glimpse of Sherman (says a
picturesque writer in the Athenteuni). A tall, slim, iron.
built figure, all nerve and sinew, with not an ounce of flesh
to spare from his long limbs and body ; a large head, long
and conical, with slanting brow, crossed and cut by fur-
rows--; eyes of a dark brown colour; hair of the same hue,
cropped close to the skull; a sandy beard and moustache,
trimmed close and short ; a big mouth, and lips pressed
firmly on the stump of a cigar ; an expression of counte-
nance kindly and even humorous, but also at the same time
keen, anxious, vigilant, suspicious—such is the outward,
visible here of the Great March. He is 47 years old. Ho
rides a powerful, but uncanny brute. His staff is smaller
than that of any brigade commander in the service. He
denies himself and his staff the luxury of a house. He has
fewer servants, fewer horses, than the regulations allow
Ilbvieeh leinkeapsttjhiiinestGrreoesvfeuersivileedynthe commission of major-general in the
regular army, on the ground that such exalted rank should
13(3yn thet v lalu
bt he oarbi tl iee st uo net
oi lmt
pae
rwe aarn
and
s over,udge
men's services with greater coolness. As he comes plung-
ing along, we see the man's character in the way in which
he rides. The road is occupied by a brigade in motion ;ho
turns into the fields, dashing through brush and briar,
wading through streams, floundering into swamps, so long
as these will yield a way ; and when forced to take the road
again, you see that he pulls up his horse and halts
until the brigade has passed. The smooth path, ho says,
is for the man on foot. Men with rifles and kits, not the
general and his staff, have the first right to the road. Can
we wonder at the trust in which sharp lawyers and solid
farmers follow such a man ? One day, looking back, the
men saw a line of bridges in their rear in flames. " Guess,
Charley," says a trooper, " Sherman has sot the river cn
fire." To which Charley answers, "Well, if he has, reckon
it's all right."

The Fenian Movement.

DUBLIN, Oct. 2.

The following are additional details of the evi-
dence given at the investigation, in the Police Com-
missioner's-office, Lower Castle-yard, before Mr.
Stronge, into the charge of high treason preferred
against six alleged Fenians, including a merchant
tailor, and several of the literati connected with the
Irish People—lately died of unnatural causes.. Mr.
Barry, Q.C., having concluded his statement, an
ample report of which appeared in The Sun of yes-
terday, the first witness (an informer) was called
and examined. His name is Pierce Nagle, and he
had been at one time clerk in some office in the
Roman Catholic Chapel of St. Lawrence O'Toole,
but since a " folder" in the Irish People office, where
he was arrested when the police broke in some time
ago. He was accommodated with a seat within the
enclosure of the bench. He looked exceedingly pale
and nervous, keeping his eyes fixed upon the ground,
and only raising them when called upon to identify
the documents laid before him for identification.
He is a man about 34 years of age, about the middle
height, features dark, and, though somewhat heavy,
yet not unprepossessing. He seemed altogether a
person of quiet, unpretending manners and of respec-
tability more than common.
Mr. Williams, chief clerk, proceeded to read the
first informations of the witness, which were sub-
stantially as follows :---
"I was born at Ballybo, near Clonmel, and was
educated by the Board of National Education.
Lived in Power-house, in 1859, and from that went
to America in November, 1863. Returned to Ire-
land in January, 1864. The Fenian Society was then 1
in existence in America.. First became acquainted
with members of it in Clonmelabout the time of Mr.
Terence M'Manus's funeral. A man named Ryan in
Clonmel first told me of the society. First of all meet- •
ings were held in Clonmel for Fenian purposes.
Among those who were in the habit of attending
these meetings was Denis Downing Mulcahy, for-
merly reader, but subsequently sub-editor, of the
Irish People. He was then living with his father at
Redmondstown, near Clonmel, but at present resides
at No. 2, Merrion-terrace. I attended meetings at
his father's house in No. 63 before I went to Ame-
rica. There were present at these meetings fre-
quently a man named Power, and another named
Kelly. Power, I subsequently learned, was James
Stephens. He was known to the meetings as the
head of all the Fenians, and was called ' captain.,
Heard he was involved in the rising of 1848. At
these meetings there also attended at times a mail
named Fogarty, another named O'Neil, and Denis
Dowling Mulcahy. Remembers hearing Stephens
say at breakfast one morning, at Mulcahy's, that
they were very backward in Clonmel. Stephens
slept in Mulcahy's house. When I went to America
I obtained employment there in the establishment
of Baylen and Son. Had a letter to Mr. John
O'Mahony, 6, Centre-street, New York, the head
centre of the Fenians. Saw a clerk in the office
named Cavanagh, to whom I hailded the letter. He
brought it to an inside room, and a man came out,
who I ascertained was O'Mahony. He said America
was a bad place to go to look for a situation. I was
in the habit of calling on O'Mahony at his office. I
attended a meeting of Fenians. O'Mahony was not
present, but the clerk Cavanagh acted as secretary.
There were about 40 present, and the business con-
sisted of reading several letters referring to the pro-
gress of the movement. A collection was made pre-
vious to the meeting separating, for the purpose of
promoting the objects of the Brotherhood. This was
the only meeting I attended at New York. Went
next to Pennsylvania, and then returned to Ireland.
After residing some time with my father came to D ub -
lin, called at the office of the Irish People. Saw a num-
ber of persons whom I did not know. Saw James
O'Connor, Cornelius O'Mahony, and others. Some
of them asked how things were going on in Ame-
rica. After some time got employment at the
building of John's-lane Chapel. Afterwards became
clerk of St. Lawrence O'Toole's church. Then got
the situation of folder at the Irish People office, my
business being to forward the papers to the country
agents, which I did in abundance. Became well
acquainted with Jeremian O'Donovan—the addi-
tional name of Rossa I believe to be assumed—Cor-
nelius O'Mahony, Luby, James O'Connor, book-
keeper. From that day often saw Stephens, who
frequently inquired how business was going on. I
believe he had a control of the paper, as when any-
thing went wrong it was threatened to tell the cap-
tain. The first meeting I attended in Dublin was
held at Phibsborough. Luby, Stephens, Roundtree,
and Mulcahy were present among others. Luby had
an interview with Stephens privately respecting
some case that was being heard at the Cork assizes.
The next meeting I attended was held at No. 68,
Great Brunswick-street. It was expected previ-
ously that the captain would be there that night.
Men named Kane, Luby, and Mulcahy were among
those present. Stephens came into the room, and
with Mulcahy, Luby, and others, had a private in-
terview. Stephens told me at the meeting that he
wanted me to give up my situation in the church,
in order that he might send me to the country. He
wished that I should give a fortnight's notice that I
might go to Clonmel. The next day I handed a
note, from Stephens to O'Mahony, who appointed a
man named Fogarty in my place in the office. It
appeared that much dissension existed among the
brethren in Clonmel, and it was in connection with
this matter I was to go there. The next meeting was
held in the lodging of a man named Flood, in Den-
zille-street. There were only four present. Stephens
was there, and after an interview with Power, he
handed me £7 to pay my expenses to Clonmel.
Power and I left the house together, and he said he
had a letter from Stephens, which I was to read to
the B's in Clonmel. B's in the Fenian language
means sergeants. Saw Power next day, and he ap-
peared stupid from want of sleep, or the effects of
drink. Took the letter from him and said he was
not a proper person tobeintrustedwith such a docu-
ment. Went to Clonmel and read the letter before
shouse we met Andrew Millar'
Among them was a man named
Burke, at f
atthe B'
whose
and others. Read the letter for them. Returned
to Dublin after a few days, and saw Stephens at
Flood's lodgings in Deuzille-street. While there
O'Connor entered the room, and announced the
seizure of the paper. Stephens said it was only
what he expected, and that the work would go on
as usual. This was about 7 o'clock, and at 11
o'clock I was arrested in Dame-street. While in
Carrick-on-Suir, take a rifle
out rifles were given for 255. each to
the office of the Irish People I saw a man named
Quirk,
r it belonging
the brethren. I have been for many years inti-
mately acquainted with the objects of the Fenian
Society. Had interviews with members in Clonmel,
America, and Dublin. I know the object to be to
overthrow the power of the Queen in this country
and to establish a republic. Large bodies of men
were secretly drilled in connection with the Brother-
hood, and pikes, rifles, and every description of
distributed among them. It was ex-
weapon were str
thousands of officers from the
pected that sever
United States would come over to take command.
In the neighbourhood of Clonmel there were at one
time 800 men enrolled. Mr. George Archdeacon
was agent in Liverpool for the sale of goods coin-
ing from the Fenians at Chicago. He was also
agent for the sale of the Irish I eople newspaper. I
think I sent him about 200 a week for circulation.
With regard to the oath of the Fenians, there is no
one present but the person administering and the
person taking it at the time it is administered. It
is in substance as follows That the person
should be ready at a moment's notice to take up
arms, to be obedient to their officers, and to be sol-
diers of Liberty aiid the Irish Republic, now vir-
tually established.' Any man who enrolled nine
men was an L,' or sergeant ; any man who en-
rolled more was a 6 13,' or captain, The appoint-

ment of ' A's' was under the control of Stephens.
Monthly returns were made by the B's' to the ' A's,'
which were forwarded to the Irish People office.
Money was collected by the B's' and paid to the
A's' for the purposes of the organisation. About the
time the Irish People was established this ceased, as
money was raised in America. The money was for
revolutionary purposes. It was believed that from
5,000 to 10,000 were to land in Ireland frota
America. Some of them were to come to this coun-
try as pretended emigrants. I have heard that the
plan to be adopted at the rising was to take advan-
tage of the troops being sent to the country and
attack Dublin. James Stephens is head of the
society in Ireland. Knew John O'Leary, the editor
of the Irish People. Knew O'Donovan Rossa, who
was manager. Luby was sub-editor. Knew John
Clausey. James O'Callaghan, an assistant in the
establishment of Messrs. Cannock and White (now
Sir John Arnott's), is a Fenian. Knew James
O'Connor and Cornelius O'Mahony to be all im-
plicated in the organisation. Before I left America
I was told did I run short of money on arriving in
Cork to go to Mr. Geary. I called upon him, and
he gave me a pound. William F. Roundtree is also
a Fenian, and was present at the meeting held in
Flood's house, Denzille-street. The brethren avoid,
as much as possible, writing through the post. They
always send their letters by a messenger, lest they
should fall into the hands of the authorities, and
they are always written in a vague manner. I re-
member bringing a letter from O'Mahony to O'Cal-
lagan. It was directing him to attend a meeting,
dated Sept. 21, 1865.—PIERCE NAGLE."

Mr. Barry said the Crown had just received by
the American mail another communication, signed
by the same Michael Cavanagh, enclosing a bill of
exchange for £1,408 6s. 2d. That letter was ad-
dressed to " Mr. George Hopper, Dame-street,
Dublin, Ireland." Within the last fortnight nearly
£5,000 had been received by the Brotherhood in
this country.
The informant identified the letter produced as
one which he took from Power, which bore date the
Bth inst.

Mr. Barry said it was in the handwriting of
Stephens, although signed " J. Power."

The letter was as follows :

"Dublin, Sept. 8, 1865.

" Brothers,—l regret to find that the letter I addressed
to you some time since has never reached you. Had you
received it I am confident all would have been right before
this, because I told you explicitly what to do, and once you
saw your way it is sure to me that you would have done
well. As far as I can understand your actual positionand
wishes now, tho best course to take is, to get all the work-
ing B.'s together, and after due deliberation and without
favour to any one, acting purely and conscientiously for
the good of the cause—to select one man to represent and
direct you all. This selection made, the man of your
choice should come up here at once, when he shall get in-
structions and authority to go on with the good work.
There is no time to be lost. This year—and let there be
no mistake about it—must be the year of action. I speak
with a knowledge and authority to which no other man
could pretend, and I repeat, the flag of Ireland, of the
Irish Republic, must this year be raised. As lam much
pressed for time, I shall merely add that it shall be raised
in flow of hope such as never beamed around it before.
Be, then, of firm faith and best cheer; all goes bravely

on.—Yours fraternally, J. POIVER."
"N.B.—This letter must be read for the working B.'s
only, and when read must be burned."
Mr. Williams next read a second information
made by Pierce Nagle, which set forth that on the
Bth inst. he went to a house in Denzill-street to see
a man named Flood. He saw Power there. Power
showed him an order of Stephens's for 50 rods,
meaning pikes. On the following day he went to a
house in Britain-street, where he paw 50 pike-heads
placed in a box for Power, and a like number for a
man named Morris, who resided in the county
Carlow. On the evening of the same day he met
Morris at the King's-bridge-station, and saw the
trunk containing the 50 pikes weighed by the por-
ters of the company, and a$ it exceeded the weight
allowed third-class passengers, he was made to pay
for the excess. Morris was in the habit of coming
up to Dublin frequently, and visiting the office of
the Irish People. Deponent knew a man named
Martin Casey, who hired the house, 4, 'Ralston-
street, for the purpose of drilling Fenians in. Was
with Casey when he took the house, and the repre-
sentation made to the agent was that he wanted it
for a store. On the first night there were only
three or four persons drilled, but on the second
night there were 80 or 40. The members were
drilled by Francis Byrne. Knew a man named
Ryan, who was not at present in custody, to be at
the meetings. He had an interview with Stephens
in the office of the Irish People.
A further information made by Pierce Nagle set forth
that the returns of the "B" Fenians produced were the
forms used by the brotherhood.
Mr. Sidney, Q.C., said that, in order to save time, he
would sugest that the several documents put in by the
Crown should be taken as read and incorporated in the in-
formation, provided counsel for the prisoners were fur-
nished with copies of them.
Mr. Barry replied that he would not undertake to incor-
porate all the documents in the informations, or that copies
of them should be furnished to the other side. However,
he would afford the prisoners every facility in his power.
Mr. Sidney observed that he threw out the suggestion in
order to save time. All he asked was that copies of the
documents incorporated in the informations should be fur-
nished to him.

Mr. Barry expressed his willingness to accede to the pro-
posal of his learned friend.
The prisoner Rossa said—With regard to what Mr.
Barry has said, that they would not engage to give up the
documents—

Mr. Barry—Excuse me, but I did not say that. I did not
refer to the subject at all. It was a different matter Mr.
Sidney referred to.

Rossa —There were documents read here to-day which
had reference merely to business transactions, but they are
sought to be made out treasonable documents ; but, when
they are explained, it will be seen that they are different
from what it is attempted to be made out.
Mr. Barry—l think it is only fair and just to the accused
that they should have ample opportunity of explaining any
document which has been found in their possession. For
my own part, I will afford them every opportunity of doing
so.
Rossa—And the press are circulating the most horrible
accounts about us.

Mr. Stronge-.-We cannot go into that. We are digressing
altogether from the inquiry.
Mr. Sidney asked if the Crown would furnish copies of
the information.

Mr. Barry-1 am not instructed on that point.

Mr. Sidney—The prisoners'imeans and everything are
withheld from them for the present only, I suppose. The
fees in the Clerk of the Crown's office are very heavy, but
while the informations are in this office the prisoners are
entitled to them at the rate of Bid. for every 80 words.
Mr. Stronge said that was a matter over which he had
no control. He should act according to the usual course,
and return the informations to the Crown Solicitor's office
immediately they were completed.
Mr. Sidney asked to be allowed to reserve his cross-
examination of the witness, if necessary. He did not know
what prisoners were to be brought up.
Mr. Stronge—lt comes to this, that you will bo in a posi-
tion to exercise the right afterwards, because the witness
will be produced in other cases.
In this stage of the investigation,
The prisoner O'Donovan Rossa stood up, and, addressing
the magistrate, said—Could I know the information on
which I was arrested, and on which the
Irish Peorle was
seized ?

Mr. Stronge—you Will know the information on which
you are committed.

Rossa—But the information on which I was seized?
Mr. Stronge—l don't know whether there was an infor-
mation.

Rossa,--I should like to know what I am arrested for.
_ _

Mr. Stronge—You are arrested upon achargOof-feiony
the most serious known to the law. It is open to any police
officer to arrest any man upon reasonable suspicion, and it
was not necessary to have an information.
Rossa—This is very like what was done in Poland.
Mr. Stronge—We will proceed with the investigation
now.

Rossa—lt you please, I will make a few observations.
Mr. Strongo—This is not the time.
Rossa—l think it is my time.
Mr. Stronge—l beg your pardon. It is for me to decide
that. The proper time will be at the close of tho investi-
gation, and not while it is proceeding.

Rossa—l said this day week that it was the Crown who
got up the conspiracy ; I believo it, and I could prove it.
You are keeping us in selitary confinement. We cannot

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even talk to one another about the charge that is brought
against us.

Mr. Stronge—You aro charged with high treason, and
you have been treated as men are always treated who aro
charged with high treason. lam not aware that any Go-
vernment at this side of th.) Atlantic would treat prisoners
so charged in any other way.

Rossa—Your newspaper correspondents will go to Po-
land and Italy and write about tho prisons there, but no
correspondent can come near us and bear what we have to
say. The Lord Lieutenant takes the power out of the
hands of your board of superintendence and your municipal
council when he wants to strike terror.

Francis Petit, the next witness, was then introduced, and
the information which he had made read by Mr. Williams.
It was to the following effect.:—He is a pensioner from the
57th Regiment of Foot, in which regiment he served for 13
years, and was discharged when holding the rank of ser-
geant on a pension of 2s. a day, and his present residence
in Dublin is 10, Common-street. On returning from Swin-
ton, near Manchester, his then residence, he had a conver-
sation with ono Wm. Kenny about the Fenian conspiracy,
which resulted in his taking the Fenian oath, which was
as follows :—" I solemnly promise and swear that I will
be faithful and bear true allegiance to the Irish Republic,
no ff virtually established. And that I will take up arms
at a moment's notice in defence of the same." This occurred
on the roadway as they came along. Kenny apprised him
of a meeting that was to be held at the house of a "deli-
gate," named Scully, on Sept. 3 last, where Petit met one
Thomas Quigley, who stated that he had been travelling
through the country in Ireland, where they had great
drilling. That they were very strong there, that there
was not a militia regiment in which there was not a large
number of Fenians, and in some regiments every man.
Petit observed to Quigley that there were reinforcements
going in every day, and what could they do in. face of the
line ? Quigley said, "So much the better, for we have
a large number of men in every regiment," and it was
their business to go in among the men and get as
many as they could to join them. Quigley pressed
him (Petit) to go over to Ireland as drill • instructor, say-
ing that he would rise and have a command, and that
there were 20,000 or 30,000 men to come to their aid
with money and assistance, when the final blow was to
be struck in five or six weeks from that date, that if they
could hold the field for 20 or 30 days they would be acknow-
ledged as belligerents, that their money would be good just
the same as in the Southern States of America, and that
every ship which came from America brought over men,
arms, and money; and he mentioned the case of a Mr.
O'Connor, who left half a million dollars to be devoted to
the purpose. He (Petit) said, " What are you going to do
for arms and ammunition ?" and Quigley said, "We are
getting arms and ammunition from America; and even here
in Birmingham we can get our rifles by contract at 265.
each," and he added, "We have 7,000 or 8,000 rifles about
Dublin, anda large quantity of ammunition, besides what is
in other parts of the country." Kenny slapped him (Petit)
on the back, and said he would be a General yet. Agreed
to come over to Ireland as military instructor. Quigley gave
him a letter of introduction to Charles O'Connor, Parlia-
ment-street, Dublin. Arrived in Dublin on Sept. 4, and saw
O'Connor and O'Donovan Rossa in Parliament-street.
O'Connor after reading the letter shook hands with him and
told him to call again on Menday. Saw Cornelius O'Mahony
at the office. Called at the office on Sept. 11, and saw
O'Connor. Went upstairs and told O'Donovan Rossa„ who
came up, that he was a sworn member and a drill instructor,
and that he brought letters of introduction from Manches-
ter, and that he had been promised a place to live in and to
be well paid. O'Donovan Rosso, said he thought they were
too hasty in his engagement. On a subsequent occasion
O'Connor told him there was a correspondence goisg on
about him, but that no answer had yet come; and on the
next day he called he received 2s. from O'Connor. He (wit-
ness) said he thought it was all humbug to be keeping him
there without giving him anything to do. O'Connor said
they had enough of drill instructors, and he sent him for
work to the foreman of the works, at the new church, at
Thomas-street, who he found knew as much about drill
and military movements as himself. Was sent back to
O'Connor, who again sent him to the foreman. Thought it
was his duty eventually, as an old soldier, to write to the
authorities on the subject. In addition to his previous in-
formation the witness deposed that he had assumed the
name of O'Connell when he came to Ireland. In the Fenian
language " uncle " meant the head of the society. Was told
that the steam-packet company in Liverpool had engaged
to run their steamers to Ireland when the blow would be
struck, and that large numbers of Americans were to come
over. [Mr. Barry then read a letter found in O'Connell's
possession, from P. Scally, dated from Manchester, in which
he stated he was sorry he was treated so badly by his
friends in Dublin; that they ought to have treated him more
generously. He also expressed astonishment that, if their
funds were so delicate, how could they carry on war against
so rich a foe as England ?] On O'Connor there was found a
letter in the handwriting of Stephens, signed with his usual
initials, "J. P." [Tho letter was for an appointment with
O'Shaughnessy and John Ryan, of Liverpool, stating that
he gave Quigley no authority to send over parties, such as
those in question. They had enough as it was, and he
would not have them put upon him. He also recommended
them to settle the matter as best they could.]
Mr. Stronge—That letter has not been proved.

Mr. Barry—We will prove it pro forma but you can
easily satisfy yourself as to the similarity of the hand-
writing.

Mr. Stronge—There is no question about it, but still I
think it must be proved in regular form.
Mr. Barry said he would do so.
Mr. Sidney—l do not require the letter to be proved, Sir,
it is referred to in the depositions taken.
The witness was then asked could he identify any of the
prisoners present. He identified O'Donovan llossa, and
said that the prisoner O'Keefe was Scally, and Hopper was
Quigley. O'Connor, he thought, was either that person or
O'Mahony, but he could not toll one from the other.
The informations was then read over, and about being
completed when—
The witness said that neither Scally nor Fottrell was
present.
Mr. Stronge—You mentioned Scally's name ?
Witness—Yes, Sir; it's a mistake, that is not Scally.
Proof was then about to be given of the proprietors of
the Irish People,
When Mr. Stronge asked counsel would he admit it ?
Mr. Sidney said he would.

Mr. Stronge.—The officer from the Stamp-office has been
here, but is gone away. Those gentlemen are very inde-
pendent.
Mr. Sidney (to witness).—Where was it you said you
saw Mr. Rossa ?—I saw him at No. 12, Parliament-street.
Now, tell me, have you seen him before, since he was
arrested, till to-day ?—I did not see him since he was ar-
rested till to-day.

(Pointing to Hopper) Did you ever seo him before ?—I
can't tell whether I saw him or not. I don't recollect his

name.
(Pointing to Mr. O'Keefe) Did you ever see him ?—I
never saw him.
(Pointing to O'Connor) Did you ever see him ?—I be-
lieve I saw him at No. 12, Parliament-street.
Are you cure you did ?—I think I did.
Will you take it on yourself to swear it positively ?—I
did see him.
Will you swear that P—l will swear it.
When did you see him ?—I saw him on the 9th of the
month.
Perhaps you are not aware there are 12 months in the
year, and, as a matter of fact, I may as well tell you that
there are ; so now fix upon onemonth out of the 12 that you
saw him in at No. 12, Parliament-street. Whatmonth was
it you saw him in ?—I saw him on the 9th of the ninth
month.
Were you speaking to him ?—No, I was not.
Was he speaking to you ?—No.
Were you speaking to any one else in his presence ?—I
was speaking to O'Connor in the office, and he was there.
On the 9th ?—On the 9th.
Were you speaking sufficiently loud for him to hear you ?
—I think I was.
Well, think, and having thought, tell me, were you ?
I was speaking as loud as I am now.
And he was close enough to hear you ?-11e was.
Was he minding his business ?—He was.
When you come over to Ireland you took the 2s 4d. ?
It should be 4s. 6d.
Mr. Stronge—What do you mean by saying it should be
4s. Gd. ?—The first sum of money I received was 4s. 6d.,
and not 2s. 4d.
Mr. Sidney—Then you are better off than I thought.
But you got 2s. 4d. besides. What was the first sum you
got ?-4s. 6d.
The second ?---Is.
The third ?-2s.
That
i anybodys the third No—
Ps um Did you get any more ? —No.
From
Did you not get 6s. ?—I got Gd. worth of stamps from
Scally.
Did you oat them P—No.
You sold them ?—Yes, I did.
The man you saw assisting at the works was the person
with whom you drank the whisky ?—I drank no whisky
with him.
Well, you drank the other, and he took the whisky ?
Yes.
You took the oath ?—I did.
When you took the oath of the Brotherhood, just to
know the elasticity of your conscience, tell me did you
consider you were binding yourself ?—I knew that I was
doing wrong.
Is that all ?—I knew I was committing a crime when
taking it, but that it would be a far greater crime to keep it.

When first did that bright idea strike your conscientioud
mind ?—Wittiess hesitated.

You seem not to understand it. That is too bard a word
for you. I will put it another way—When first did you
think it would be a great crime to keep the oath ? - I can-
not toll.

You did not know, however, that it was a crime ?—I
did ; but I can't tell exactly when the idea struck my
mind. It's not so easy to tell when an idea strikes one.
No it is not ; but I know one that strikes me now, and I
could very easily toll it. Was it before or after you took
the oath ?—lt struck me that it was wrong before I took it.
The man you took it from, was he a stranger?—No, I
knew him for three years.
Are you a Fenian ?—Well, I took the oath.
You expected more money ?—Of course I did.
When first were you, disappointed in your expectations ?
—'Witness hesitated.

Come, now, that is a point you were always turning over
in your mind, the cash ?--When I came over to Dublin
then, was nothing for me to do.,
When first were you determined to write to the War-
office ?--The very day I heard from Quigley.
Before you took the oath ?—Yes.
In fact, you came over to get information ?—Yes, to get
all the information I could and tell the authorities.
Were you in communication with the War-office beforo
you came here to fish for information ?—No.
When had the impression of becoming an informer forced
itself upon you ?—I had the impression of informing at the
time I took the oath.

"Whom did you get the other sum of money from in Par-
liament-street ? —O'Connor.

Mr. Sidney—Which is O'Connor ?
Witness (pointing to the prison O'Connor)-_I think that
is the -man.

Did you tell me you did not speak to that man ?—I told
you I saw him behind the counter. _ . . ..._

You said at the time you were speaking to O'Connor in
the office you saw that man (O'Connor) behind the counter,
but did not speak to him ?--I took Mr. O'Mahony to be Mr.
O'Connor, and Mr. O'Connor to be Mr. O'Mahony several
times.

Do you adhere to what I have stated in your own words ?
You say he paid you money on the 9th of September ?
Mr. O'Connor and I were speaking, and he (pointing to
O'Connor) was there.
Did you no tell me when you were speaking to O'Connor
he was there, but did not speak to you did. I knew the
men by sight, but I could not tell Mr. O'Connor from Mr.
O'Mahony. They were both in the room. I think this was
not the man I was speaking to.

Did you ever speak to that man in your life (pointing to
O'Connor) ?—lt is likely I have. I have seen him at the
office many a time. I will swear I did.

The Chief Clerk here, in taking down the evidence, inad-
vertently bore witness to O'Connor's identity.
Mr. Ennis protested against this.
Mr. Stronge said it was obvious the thing occurred in the
most natural way.
_ _ _

Mr. Sidney (to witness)—Who is that man (pointing to
O'Connor)—lt is Mr. O'Connor.
On your oath, do you not say so from hearing Mr.
Williams (chief clerk) say so ?
To Mr. Barry--There were two persons in the office; one
named O'Mahony, and the other O'Connor. I spoke to one
of them ; I don't know which it was.

Mr. Sidney—Will you swear that is eithor of tho two ?
I will swear that is either Mr. O'Mahony or Mr. O'Connor.
Mr. Waters said he would ask no questions on behalf of
Mr. Hopper.
Mr. Stronge—To whom did you give the letters you
brought ?—I gave them to Mr. O'Connor.
How did you know he was the man to give them to ?
He was the first man I met in the office. That was on the
9th, the day I arrived in Dublin. I said here are two letters
I brought from England.
How did you know his name was Mr. O'Connor ?—I
heard his name in Manchester.

You swear that was the man to whom you gave the letters?
—I swear that was the man.

Mr. Sidney—l believe you told me you could not tell
Mr. O'Mahony from Mr. O'Connor ?—I believe I did.

Is it not a fact that you do not know O'Mahony from
O'Connor ?—Not to say properly speaking. They are so
like each other I mistook one for the other several times.

O'Donovan Rossa here stood up. He said—l appear for
myself. I don't see the use of counsel. I expect to get
plenty of law, but no justice. This man was sent over
for the purpose of becoming an informer.
Mr. Stronge—You cannot make a speech until the case
has closed.

The informations having been read over to the witness,
and some alterations effected, the investigation was ad-
journed till to-day at 12 o'clock.
_ _

A Cork correspondent sends the following to a
morning journal with reference to the effect pro-
duced in the South by the movements concerning
Fenianism

" Our last rebellion, that never broke out, but by its
sudden collapse proved itself ' a mockery, a delusion, and
a snare,' is now a mere subject of derision. But although
ridiculously abortive, notwithstanding all the preparatory
drilling, arming, and blustering, it has been seriously inju-
rious to all tradesmen and shopkeepers in this part of Ire-
land ; while the small farmers and working men, whose in-
dustry and provident economy enabled them to put aside a
few pounds in the coffers of Government and other banks
have been so duped that they are withdrawing their hard
savings from the safe keeping of these institutions, and aro
concealing their small wealth in gold within their own
homes, providing a harvest to the burglar and highway-
man. They have been induced to act thus foolishly by re-
ports circulated throughout the country that a fleet with
many thousand Fenians are on voyage from America, whose
first action on landing on these shores will he to seize the
banks and confiscate the money of the depositors ; and in
case notice of their landing was previously given the Eng-
lish Government would be certain to seize all treasure and
carry it off. These stories have been industriously pro-
mulgated by schemers and sharpers, who have lucratively
traded on the guallibility of many, for in the west of this
county it is known that bank notes to a large amount have
been purchased for 17s. 6d. and even 15s. the £l. The in-
formations against those in custody are not yet in a state
of preparation to admit of the final magisterial examination
of the prisoners. It has, however, been intimated to their
solicitors that the two American agents located in the county
gaol will be brought up on Tuesday, and that their co-con-
spirators in the city prisons will be examined on the fol-
lowing day. What the evidence against the latter, in con-
firmation of 'General' Warner, the informer, may be, is
mere surmise. It having reached New York, when the
Scotia left on the 20th inst., that Ireland was under mar-
tial law,' it is unlikely we will be troubled by the arrival
of any more American Ireland regenerators. For the last
fortnight few of ' our cousins' are to be met with in the
streets, those who failed to get back to the States having
fled to the Continent to await a means of transport.
Amusing stories are told by emigration agents in this city
of the nervous anxiety of Yankee Fenians to get beyond the
observation of the Irish police, many offering tempting
douceurs to be shipped at once."