The Sun.
London, England, 1862-01-14 00:00:00

JANUARY 14, 1862,

was not aware that he begged in the streets. He
came to the court with me to-day, for I am too
frightened to walk alone, as the Lewellins are
always after me.
Re-examined—They have followed me ever since
this trial began. I asked forgiveness from Mr.
Lewellin in 1860, because I had said things to him
in a passion which I ought not to have said, and I
wanted to be friends again. My sister has ad-
dressed many affectionate letters to me since.
Mr. Karslake wished to put in these letters, but
Mr. Chambers objected, and, as they turned out to
be the same letters which the court refused to allow
Mrs. Lewellin to be examined upon some few weeks
ago, on the ground that they were quite irrelevant
to this inquiry, the objection was sustained.
Con way Dignam, examined by Mr. Milward—
I am a brother of Mrs. Lewellin. Some time ago I
met her in St. James's-street. She said to me, " Ah,
Conway, what are you doing ?" I replied," Nothing
at present." She said, "I know of a capital thing
for you. Did ever you hear of young Windham ?"
I replied, " 1 have a faint recollection of the name."
She said, " Well, his uncle the general is going to
bring him in mad, and if you would come forward
on the general's side and state this it would be the
making of you, and you would not require a situa-
tion." I replied, " How can you ask me to state
such a thing when you know I know nothing of
young Mr. Windham or the general either." She
said, " You know as much as most people. What I
shall want you tosay is this, that you lived at Duke-
street as clerk, and waited upon Mr. Windham, and
had ample opportunities of seeing his conduct." I
replied, "I shall do such thing. How can you ask
me to come against a young man and put him in a
madhouse when I know nothing at all about him ?"
She said, " You are very foolish. It is the general
will have the money, not young Windham.
You don't think I am working for nothing, do you?"
I replied, " I shan't come and forswear myself in
any court for you or 20 generals. I would sooner
remain in my present position than injure a young
man I know nothing about." She said, " If you don t
comply with my wishes you may do what you like.
What does it signify if you do bring in young
Windham insane ? It will not injure you but be
the making of you." I then left her. I have seen
Mr. Windham walking, riding, and driving, but I do
not think I have ever spoken to:him in my life. My
sister did not know whether I was acquainted with
Mr. Windham or not. I have never been in her
house in Duke street in my life, and, of course, 1
never acted as clerk there.
Cross-examined by Mr. Chambers—l have been
living for about a week in Westminster-road, but do
not know the number. I am supported by my
friends. I am out of a situation, but am endeavour-
ing to get one every day. I have been out of a situa-
tion ever since my mother's death, about two years
ago. Before that event I was in several situations.
The last place I had was in Lime-street, where I
was head clerk to a general merchant, with a
salary of 15s. a week. (A laugh.) My mother
was a lady of independent means, and being the
youngest child I was selected as the one to stay
at home with her. I read, wrote, and rode with
her up to the time of her death. I have lately
earned some money by writing and copying, for
lam a moderate scholar, but not enough to keep
me. I have not worked upon any of the papers in
this case. Nobody asked me to give evidence. I
went myself to Mr. Gregory, the solicitor for Mr.
Windham. The conversation with my sister in St.
James's-street took place at the end of October. I
have corresponded with her since, asking her to
say to the police that I had lived with her for six
months, in order that I might be enabled to get a
conductor's licence. I never lived for six months
with her, but she had told me she would do what
she could to get me a situation, and would recom.
mend me anywhere for honesty, sobriety, and in-
dustry. She has not spoken to the police.
Re-examined—l have been so reduced that I
would be glad to accept the place of a conductor. I
have tried everything I could to get a situation, but
have failed. My sister did not answer my letter. I
went to Mr. Gregory voluntarily, in consequence of
a false statement made by Mrs. Lewellin about
Eliza Sophia, whom I knew to be a good virtuous
young woman. I was not in Bake-street on Christ-
mas day. and did not attempt to make a disturbance
there. I was at Brixton the whole of the day.
By the Jury—l got £6O at my mother's death,
and I have a sister in America who sends me alittle
money occasionally. I got £3 from her by the last
mail. My mother had ample means, but they died
with her. I was in court when Mrs. Lewellin said
she had met me in the streets ragged and begging,
She gave me some clothes afterwards, including
those I now wear.
By the Master—The statement made by Mrs.
Lewellin when she was examined about the conver-
sation in St. James's-street was totally false. I have
taken out a summons against Mr. Lewellin for an
assault committed upon me in the Burlington
arcade.

Mr. Hill, examined by Mr. Milward, said he was
the manager of the Crown Bank in Norwich, and
knew the Windham family. In 1860 Mr, Wind-
ham borrowed £2O from the bank, and in August
last year he opened an account. The first sum paid
into his credit was £9OB 4148., and the second and
last £l,OOO. From time to time he drew checks
against the amounts paid to credit. Sometimes he
drew them in the banking-house. There was still
a small sum to his credit. Witness had no suspi-
cion that there was anything wrong with his mind.
He talked rationally and sensibly,
Gloss-examined by Mr. Chambers—The balance
remaining to his credit was about £l7. His largest
check was for £3OO. One drawn in favour of Mr.
Bowen May was for £2OO, and was dated the 29th
of August, 1861. Another, dated the sth of Nevem-
ber, was drawn in favour of Mr. Barnes, a publican
in the Haymarket, and was for £l5 ss. A third
was dated Felbrigg, Oct. 27, 1861, and the sum
(X 139) was payable to James Roberts. A fourth,
dated Oct. 28, was for £3OO, and was drawn in
favour of Mrs. Windham. On the back were writ-
ten the words, " In exchange for money, Agnes
Windham." Another check, drawn on the same
day, was also in favour of Mrs. Windham, the
amount being £157, and it was endorsed " J. P.
Davis." One dated Nov. 1, 1861, £lOO, was en-
dorsed on the back " Lawrence and Fry." There
were 24 checks in all. Witness had no private ac-
quaintance with Mr. Windham.

By Mr. Coleridge—The check endorsed " J. P,
Davis" was paid through the Bank of England.
Mr. Kemp, examined by Mr. Milward, said he
was the proprietor of the Esplanade Baths at
_ _

Ryde, and he had a house adjoining, which he let
out to lodgers. Mr. Windham lodged with him in
April, 1860, for three weeks; and again in May,
1861, for nearly a fortnight. He was in the habit
of bathing every morning, and was particularly
cleanly in his rooms. Witness believed him to be
of sound mind.

Cross-examined—Mr. Windham was a very sober
man. lirhat witness meant by his being particu-
larly clean in his rooms was, that he used to fold

up his things and put them on a chair. He never

noticed anything peculiar about him.
Mrs. Kemp, the wife of the last witness, corrobo-
rated his evidence. She said Mr. Windham behaved

like a gentleman, and gave no trouble or annoyance

whatever.

By the Master—She had heard Mr. Horrocks
speak unkindly to Mr. Windham. They did not

seem to be on good terms. In 1861 the tutor was

Mr. Peatfield ;he agreed very well with his pupil.
Jean Souney said he was a waiter in the Hotel
Meurice, Rue de Rivoli, Paris. Mr. Windham came

there at midnight on the 31st of August last, accom-
panied by Mrs. Windham, her sister, and a man and

a maid servant. The party stayed 10 or 12 days.
They had a suite of apartments on the first floor,
and dined at the table d'hote. Mr. Windham had

a bath every morning. There was nothing unusual

in the conduct of any of the family. They rode
about during the day and went to the theatre in the
*- cr. just the same as other people.
n ed—Mr. Windham seemed to be very
Rho did not appear to care so

evenlbb
Cross-exatu._
fond of his wife, but
much for him.
- tutor in Tor-
Mr. Connor said he was a private . -utly
quay, and know M. Windham, 4e had fr09.4,----