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the Country at large would like that plan at
the present conjukture, for that could not be
done without compulsion, for compelling men to
serve was a compulsion, although they were
called upon to serve by ballot ; whereas the mea-
sure Of increasing the regular Military Force,
must, from the nature of the thing, be voluntary.
He therefore should like to hear why the Militia
was to be preferred to "the. Regular Force, as far as
the present increase of establishment ?—The ob-
jeftion the Hon. Gentleman complained of, as
to Officers obtaining rank unduly, and that of a
young man lifting himself over the head of an
old and deserving Officer who could not raise the
same number of men, had great weight in it ; for
that praftice had operated to the discouragement
of many brave and deserving Officers ; but this
evil was provided 'against by the present plan ;
there was a regulation devised, under the
auspices of the Commandei in Chief, that would
obviate the inconvenience. It was this :
That no promotion should take place at all until
an Officer had been a certain time in the service :
he must be a given number of years in one station
before he could be removed to another, so that
this sudden rising of Youth over Experience was
not possible under this plan. Officers with this
qualification might advance their rank by raising
men, but without this previous qualifiCation that
would be impossible. This plan had the appro.
bation of the Commander in Chief, and he
hoped it would appear to Parliament to be most
eligible.
General WA LPOLE pointed out some of the
evils which the system of raising Officers to Rank
by the number of Men they raised, among which
were the putting up the Volunteer Service to the
highest Bidder, where Recruits were bought as
it were by Auction ; the consequence had been
severely felt in the course of this War—for Go-
vernment had been compelled to give a Bounty
of Twenty Guineas per Man. Another evil
produced by this system was that of Desertion—
many left one Regiment and entered into another,
from the temptation which the large Bounty held
out to them ; and some of these Deserteis 'had
at-Wally gone to America.

3 Mr. Secretary DUNDAS observed, that owing
to an omission on his part, the observation of
the klon. Gentleman who spoke last had not. been
obviated. No such pradice as that now cots.
plaint(' of, could take place, because the Bounty
on•the Recruiting Service was limited, and be-
yond a certain sum nothing could be given.
Calomel GASCOY NE observed, that if these
additions were to be made to the Regular Service
in general, he did not know how they could be
an avail.!)le force to this Country at present, be-
cause many of the Regiments were abroad, to
whom they could not be attached for some time
to come. We might want immediate addition to
out Regt.l4r Force ; for it cOuld not be expeded
that the Militia should be ready to go all to Ire-
land.

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Mr. PITT said that he understood the aug.
nictitation would apply only to those Regiments
,
which are now in Great Britain, and that the
augmentation was only to,ooo in number.
The Resolution was then put and carried, viz.
That 53,337 men be voted for the Service of 11 ts MAJESTY
fig Guards, &c. in Great Britain, from the 24th March,
aot to the 15111 December, same year.
That there be granted to Ills MAJESTY
for charges • tor the same, for the like
period' - - Z. 1,653,878 6 5
That 17,232 men be granted for Ireland.
Charges for tt:e same , - - 576,593 72 7
That 72,329 be granted for the Planta-
tions, iscc.ifec, &c.

Charges for the same - - 1,724,377 0 4
For General and Staff Officers, and Of-
Beers of Hospitals in Great Britain and
• Ireland - - - 131,719 12 0
For Out. Pensioners of Chelsea Hospital
and Kilinainhain Hospital - - 142,737 7 o
For four Regiments of Light Dragoons,
and seventeen Regiments of Foot in In-

dia , - - 549035 19 10
For recruiting the same - . 3b1c.03 9 z
For Contingencies In recruiting, kc: His
Majesty's• Land Forces, and' extra
Charges in the United Kingdom - 672,248 .13 5
For Militia and
,Feneihles in the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland ;3542143 19 • 8
For Contingencies for the same . - • 84,451 o
For,Clothing for ditto • 122,667 .t 3
For Supernumerary ()Meets . - " 25,662 8
For Allowances to Principal Officers, ,' ' •
their Clerk 4 and,in the United

dons . , 122604 14 It
Vor, increased Rates of Subsisteiwe for

the Land rorces of the United Kifigdoin 370,384 tz '4
For Half-pay to reduced Officers of Land , •
Forces and 'Wallies. - 163x855 z 5
Fot the same belonging' to the late' '
Scotch Brigade in the service of the, i-- ,

-
States-General - - 'Lope, o e
For the same to Reduced Officers of His
Majesty's American Forces - . 60,000 o o
For In-Pensioners of Cheltica and .Kil-
mainhain - -
-- - - 410.7 14 6

For Pensions to Widows of Land Officers 25;26.9 14 3
For Volunteer Corps, Infantry and Ca.-
valry, for the United Kingdom - 880039 r 7
• For the Barrack Department in the Unit-
ed Kingdom - - 633,637 13 s
For Nletheines and Hospital Contingen-
cies in Ireland - ' 21,372 19 9
For Foreign Corps in the service of Great
Brit* - - - 303,391 4 5
For the Augmentation of the Regiments
of Dragoon Guards, and Dragoons! and
Infantry of the Line ; and- for the
twelve rivs Companies of Invitlidi in
Great- Britain 656,388 8 6
All which were severally agreed to unani.
mouth-.

The House being resumed, the Report was
ordered to be received to-morrow.

Agreed to go into another Committee of Sup-
ply on Wednesday next.
The Report of the Committee of the Admiralty,
on the subject of Dock-yards, was
,ordered to be
pri►;ted, on the Motion of Mr. ABBOT.

Mr. RYDER brought in a Bill for repealing
the last Brown Bread Bill, and making other
Provision in lieu of it.--Read a first time.
Mr. RYDER said, he wished this Bill to be
read a second time to-morrow. He wished it to
be understood, that unless there should appear to
be any objection, ht should propose going into
some other Stages of this" Bill to-morrow- He
now moved that this Bill be read a second time
to.morrow.--Ordered.

At Nine o'Clock the House adjouned to to.'
morrow.