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London, England, 1862-07-15 00:00:00

his conduct that he told th
lady belonged to him he s
him; upon which the defend at h..?."4711,79ettr'
his nose; and got up to do eVP.O4,_
got up at the same time, and thetleolickapt
hold of him, shoved him. •violentlyt:.idst th, .-
riage-door, and the door opening at the time ar
, he
should have fallen out had not a railway porer
I caught hold of him, and landed him on the platform.
of the Vauxhall station. He then sam the defendant
! and Price attack his friend Mr.. Watson, .who bad
a large sum of money belonging to him on his per-
' son; and as he merely kept his hatzds• in his pockets
to protect his money, he (witness) was afraid they
would injure him. Price came out of the carriage,
and witness had a couple of minutes at it with him,
when the defendant came up, and with his staff
gave him such a desperate blow over the left WM*
that he instantly dropped, and her bad l
eft t
recollection of what passed.
ln reply to the questions of the magistrote,
The witness said that the defendant had e vidently
been drinking, but was not much the warse lor
liquor_ It was the intention of himself art'd big
friend to get out at the Waterloo station, and not.
at Vauxhall. He was six feet from the railway-
carriage when the defendant struck him.
Mr. Wontner—What Was the time at which this
occurred?

Witness—Between nine and ten.
Mr. Wontner—You are a pugilist, Mr. Welita
Mr. Welsh-4 have begin one, but lam not so
now.

Mr. Wontner—You were the seconder of Sayers,
I believe, in his famed battle.
Mr. Welsh—l was, but Ido not call that being
a pugilist. I have not fought since 1851.
Mr. Wontner—Then you retired with the Great
Exhibition of 1851 ? (Laughter.)
Mr. Welsh—l have not fought since then. I
might have dozed a little coming along, but
was not asleep, and could hear all that passed.
I did not hear my friend chaff the defendant,
but their talk might have woke me up. i did
not hear my friend or any one else say that the
police were to be bought, and that he (No. 85)
knew it. I did not hear any one say that they,
the police, were rogues, that they were always
about the public-houses, and never to be
found when they were wanted, and that whenthey
got hold of a drunken man they shook him by, the
heels to shake all the money out of him. I might
have been awoke from my doze when the defendant
Wes looking foe his Exhibition ball. I did not
threaten to punch the defendant's head. All I said
was that if the lady belonged to me I should chas-
tise him. I did not threaten to knock his teeth
down his throat. I might have told him to rise up,
but did not know what for. He rose up, but Ido
not know what for. I did not strike him to my
knowledge_ I am sure I did not strike him. I
might have struck him in the scuffle, but not to my
knowledge. I had a scuffle with Price on the
platform. After 1 was removed from the carriage
I did not knock him down twice nor once. We
might have had two minutes of it.
To the Magistrate—l had not my coat off at the
time, but Price had. I did not strike the defen-
dant after that, nor did I see him on the platform
before he struck me with his truncheon.
Mr. Watson, yeast merchant, of 191, High-street,
Borough, corroborated a great portion of the evi-
dence of Mr. Welsh; and repeated a portion of the
language used by the defendant in the carriage,
and which was of so nasty and disgusting a charac-
ter that all females and youths had been previously
removed from the court. The witness proceeded to
say that after the defendant had struck a light, and
placed the match so cic ie to the dress of the lady
when looking for his ball as to endanger it,the gentle-
man in the carriage said he did not like policeroen, and.
this caused the defendant to use the offensive lan-
guage. The language made use of by the complainant
to the defendant was " You are a very disgusting
fellow to make use of such language in the
presence of a lady. If the lady belonged to me I
should certainly chastise you." The defendant's
reply was " I could lick 40 such as you," at this
he got up, and Mr. Welsh got up at the same time ;
they had a tussle, and the defendant threw the
complainant over my knees. The other man (Price)
struck me. By this time the train stopped at the
Vauxhall station. Mr. Welsh was forced out, and
both the defendant and Price drew me from my
seat, and forced me from the carriage with such
force that I had great difficulty in saving myself
from injury. As soon as he recovered he heard
gentleman say " He has killed a man," and saw the
defendant about to get into the carriage again, but
he was prevented. Witness at that moment saw
Mr. Welsh lying on the platform in a state of in-
sensibility and as if dead, with a fearful wound on
his head, from which the blood was rapidly flow-
ing. The sight was such as to give him a great shock.
In reply to Mr. Selfe, the witness said the defen-
dant might have taken a glass or two of ale ; but
knew what he was about.
In cross-examination by Mr. Woutner, the wit-
ness said that he had known Mr. Welsh some time,
but the lady and gentlemen in the carriage were
perfect strangers to him- He had not before had
any contentions with the police. He was much
excited when he first saw his friend Mr. Welsh lying
on the platform, as he thought he was dead. Had
no recollection of having heard any one say that
the police were to be bought, and that 85 knew
it. His first observation was owing to the
lighted match being placed under the lady's dress.
He did not say anything about the police being
only found near public-houses, or of the police
shaking drunken persons by the heels to shake the
money out of them.—He never raised his hand;
and when attacked he kept his hands in his pockets
in which were nearly £BO belonging to Mr. Welsh,
the taking of his booth on that day, and 120 of
which was silver. Some blows were exchanged
in the carriage before Mr. Welsh was forced out,
but he could not say how many by either of
parties. He did not see any fighting on the plat-
e
form ; the first thing he saw was 'Welsh in the act
of falling.
Mr. Thomas Vim. Turner, a gentleman connected
with the British Museum, was not in the carriage
with the parties, but in getting out of the one he
was in, he saw the policeman (the defendant) strike
a violent blow with his staff on the complainant's
head. There appeared to have been some scuffling
going on just before, but he did not see it. The
blow was given with such force thatchede staff
bothwas
split in halves, and the defendant pup
pieces. 9 Creel-court, an
Mr. Thomas Knowles, of No.
old soldier, who is at present drill-sergeant ,
11-sergeant in the
37th Middlesex Volunteers, who wore the uniform
of the corps, and whose left breast was
aaserriage
in
decorated
x
ed
with two medals-said thatthe evening
question he travelled ion
n the to
that in which the disturbance took place, and
was obliged to hear the language ofa then adeisfgenudstainntg,
which
Was of the most filthy
a
kind. saw. Mr. Welsh and a man who had his
coat off fighting, and at this time the defendant
came out of the carriage, drew his truncheon out of
his pocket, and deliberately struck Mr. Welsh a
cruel blow on the head with such violence that he
Welsh
split his staff in two. Mr.dropped as if
dead, and the defendant was about to re-enter the
carriage, when the last witness said, " You have
e
killed the man, and you must not go until a con-
stable comes."
Mr. Boot, the surgeon
described the wound who attended Mr. Welsh,
racter, and endangered as one of a very serious cha-
for some time. the life of the complainant
Mr. St. Aubyn here applied for an adjournment
of the case to a future day, as it was his wish, if
possible, to produce the lady and gentleman who
were in the carriage at the time, to give their evi-
dence in the case. The name and address of the
gentleman had been taken in the night, but unfor-
tunately, in the confusion, some mistake was made
in the address, and therefore he could not be found.
The lady had.called at the house of his client, but
he was too ill at the time, and his young man had
unfortunately neglected to take her address. He
(Mr. St. Aubyn) hoped, however, that on reading
the particulars of the case in the papers, the parties
having before expressed their willingness to come
forward and give their evidence, would attend on
any future day that his worship might please to
name. He felt it necessary to state that on the
circumstance being represented to the
Commission-
ers of Police, they at once suspended the defendant
from duty, and they were anxious that the fullest
investigation should take place.
Mr. Selfe complied with the request, and ad-
iourned the further hearing to Wednesday week.

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The Penang Argus records a visit of Lady Frank-
linslLlaLrEseSi.lles
to the island. Immediately on her arrival she proceeded
to see the governor and to visit the localities of interest in
town mention two fresh
the neighbourhood.
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the villages of Foram° and Saint-Loup by four men, between
demanded his money ;he took from his k
of silver, which ho threw to a distance from him, and while
the thieves were looking for the coins • which
had become
scattered he took to flight and succeeded in escaping. In
the evening of the same day an open
from the country was stopped
between carriage returning
Loup and Capeletto by a man the villages of Saint-
of the travellers seized the who demanded money. Ono
coachman's whip, and with the
butt-end struck the fellow such a blow in the face as to
knock him down.
ed from a place o fconcealmentFourwhich and ran after the car-
riage'
set off at full gallop, bat oon gave up
the pursuit, fm •
) ding their efforts to overtake it ineffectual.
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