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London, England, 1801-06-10 00:00:00

NON-RESIDEWE OF THE CLERGY.

Mr. DICK,..NSON jun. moved, that 'an MI
of the ZIA Henry. VIII. chap. 13th, 50 far as it
relates to' the Reidence of the Clergy,, be read ;
which being crone, be proceeded to make a few ob.
servations, which sit was imposSible to hear in the
gallery, and cOncluded with moving, that the
House do now resolve itself into a Committee, to
consider so much of the said Ad as relates to the
Residence of the Clergy, and their taking of
farms. •
Mr. GREGOR seconded the Motion, and con-
tended, that by the late prosecutions, under this Ad,
for.lsion.:residence, the greatest personal hardships
have been incurred by many deserving individuals,
of which he gave. two or three instances, that the
MI has, in such cases, been inforced solely for the
purposes of extortion.. The deters of the Mt ex.:
tended, in -his opinion, much farther /Ilan- to the
,subjeel of Non-iesidence. According to the provi-
sions, of :he Mt, no' Clergyman can buy or sell
cattle for the purptms of profit. lhis*is, in fad,
prohibiting the clergy limn farming • their own
glebes,. or, endeavouring to tnake tip the deficiency
of their frdquently very scanty incomes, by taking
small farms. He was most. decidedly of Opinion,
thtist some alterations should be made'm the law as
it now stands, ,

Sir ROBERT BU.XTOAr expressed his regret,
that the hardships complained of by,the Hom Gent.
who spoke last should :have resulted Irekin the -law
as,to the Non-residence of the Clergy ; bat particllar
hardships; in his opinion; could-nor form a sithici-
ent•ground for an alteration 'of the law. As ro tht.!
second." part ,of the - proposed mc...-,cre,. he really
could not give'it his.epprobatioo ; for he,thought it
altogether inconsistent with the clerical efiaraeier,,
that the Clergy should be dealei ; for thei?lown profit
in corn or. cattle. A Clergynnui's name Mt-cry-a 1)...
p:ored in theilist of bankrupts in the Gazette. fie
did not wish that melt a thing shotidd Occur. again.
Any alteration ptcsent law would meet with
his disapprobation.
Sir Ir., ScOTT thought that every thing which
could tend to ent;nce the %residence of the Clergy,.
ought to meet with the countenance of the HouSe,
hut he knew well thai great indivichtal hardships
have been :sustained from the. present ,Law upon that
subjeCt, and . that Law has been made the glom{
the grossestor 'exttion He
• • ,
though he. WtsDegl ti eCifOrk ITNidellee as much as
could not kcip thinking that seine ' riziguiii-
ti6ns• ought to be made,' which would pit: an. en,l
to the evil complained of, if they, could be adopio,i
without limiting the restraints upon non.resi.iig4',ec,
As co the seecoti part of the propw,cd ineasurb, he
could conceive ;no evil consequence which would
result from allowing cite Cie.rg'y to rata the Glehe::
_allowed them by the Legi,latkc, and to•turn them
to' thebestaccou t that they lie knew that the
clamour throughout tile 'citiry against non,resi_
dence has been, cry great (perhaps iii many'cases
it is well foundeo), but he was convinced 'that it
is not authorised to the caent:to
thich it has been
o tricd. Se ,
Seine of the 'Clergy May have negleeted
their duty, and by nor residing among ttiose whose
spiritUal concerns they have engaged to, supe t intend,
justly laid themselves open; t collate and puniihL.
mein, but he %Vas cnavineed.that the great body of
then) are. men of principle and lyinonr, and that it
would be found on inquiry, 'that :the clamour 'which
has been raised against them is in
ba sreat degr'pe'itn-
just. He concluded 'with exPressing.his,approba-
tion.of the Motion:.:
• The Motion worthen put and: agrcOd to.‘
The' House having resolved .ibiClf into the Com-
mittee, .

Mr. DI,CKENiON Moved, it That the Chairin'an
be directed to move the flOuse for leavt to bring' in
;,,Bill to protea and
,rslieve, under certain restric-
tions and r%ulations, persollS, from v•Fxa-
tiotts Prosecutions liy eomMon informers, 'Under -an
Ael. of the 21st littrcttY r,3, for their,
non.residencc, and their tid,zink of farms."
The CIIANCIELL9,R. the. LXTHEOUEP
said, be was inippy dint. the tionourable.Movec, of

• • .
this matter 'had • rehnqutshed all intention of ;my.
ing the Repeal of -the A 4 of HtNity VIII. because
though ht; might approve of his general objeal, he
rtAtli not have giVeln his vote in support of such
Motion, He ivas
ialw bro.', that he fOlif,d it
in his power to agree 'tt, th :Aelotionnow.inade,.
'cause it goes only to reuncay specific inconverni.
encies'iesulting from the general l.iw, the principle
of which be must ever approve, and nor
,to alter
that low. ' lie agreed with his, Right Hon. and
Learned Friend (SirW. ScoTT), that this .Ati has

been applied of late for the purposes of mortion,
and persecution, but yet the law. appeared to him
good in its principle, as rending to promote a most
important object, the I.esidenvo of the Clergy. He
hoped that there would hp no difference of opinion
as fo the, second pan of 04 prOposed siii, 'flat
the Clergy should be'oblig..:4 to confine themselves
as•much as 'possible to the exercisi. of theirkacred
and important illations, could not. be doubted.—
Bur considering that the incomes of many of them
are extremely inadequate to the 4upprt of their
families, in the dignified and independent situation
of life which they ought to hold, he could see no
impropriety in.their being idlowod to eNeavour to
increase those incomes,. by farming 'small Farms,.
either In place of, or along with the Glebes,
allowed tlieni by the Legislaturu. He ' was 'far
from wishing that they should 'be: allowed to cit.'
gage to such an exilent in secular omployments, as ,
to divert them from paying their privteipal attention
on t. 9 al* bacrgfi 414(10, INt he bel4tvgd it would

be alloWetl that no secular employment is less incon-
sistent with the clerical charafler and duties then
,agrieultneal pursuits, provided tliey are limitcd'to
a certaia, extent. There could be no doubt that it
wilt be 'difficult to limit precisely to what extent
the ClergyTmay he allowed to employ . themselves
in such pursuits, but that would fs.rm a subject of
subsequent consideration, when the Bill should he
before the Houses He-was- happy that. the Hot;.
Mover of the. Bill does not mean to leave it solely
to the. discretion of the Bishops or Archbishops- in
what cases -residence may be dispensedswith ; but
that he means to specify in the, Bill which he
proposes to introduce, as Much as possible." these
cases. No doubt a discretionary power must be
lodged by this, 'Bill somewhere, to judge of 'cases
which may be unforeseen or which cannot be'speci.
fied. Though he thus approved of this measure, he.
hoped that it will. be only temporary ; and that s-
well digested and more 'general system of regulation
will speedily be brought •before the 'Legislature..
from some quarter orother. That 'such' 'a' system'
should be. brought forward :this Session, he' could
not exiled, but he was anxious that it may be
as little delayed. as prissible, 'When it 'is brought
forward, it will naturally be founded on theconsider-
atiOn that many cases do,. as things at present stand,
exist in which- it would be improper to enforce resi-
dence, because there are many-livings in the Church,_
which if residence were enforced, would not ;larch°
the Incumbent an income much exceeding that ola
day-labourer, and which are totally inadequate for
supporting.him in .the respeetability sof station, in
which, for the purposes of usefulness in his office,
he 'ought to be -supported. When such a general
system, therefore, is brought forward,
.he hoped it
would also be taken, intO'consideration, if the great
resources of the Country can. be better applied than
to increase- the incomes of- certain livings in the:
Church, so t!set the holders of them may be enabled
to reside in their-parishes, ',and at the same time
maintain the rank iss life:which is necessary to their
usefulness. The smallness of livings is an encou.
ragement to pluralities; pluralities necessarily pro-
duce non,residence, and non-residence is the great
evil complained of. HU begged' pardon 'Of the
House .for taking up so much of its, time in advert-
:lig to subjeets, not imtnedi,nelv before it, but rcces.
sarily arising out of the Question under considers.--
tion. He expressed his approbation oldie *posed
measure, considering it as a temporary one. '
Mr. WHITBRE/W rose to Make a few` observa-
...

dons on what had. just haler' frozo'tlie:Clpttc-E1..1..0R
Of the EXCHEQUER. He cortceived that There
could be no drubs thitt it 2s the general wilt of the
Country, that the rtsidence of the elvrBy, shoulil
be enforced as getteraiiy.as posittie, but That it is
at the same time dsir.tble to prated :The/Clergy
from vrxatious prosecutions.. "i he nature' of the

.mensure. propoFel must natotaily every
ruifid, and has led the Right fioLi. G:ntletnan, into
a field much wider than that to which' it `of. itself
exten,L ; and fie agreed with the Right
tlLma..), that it may•be proper, ;.ti soon'as possible,
3i.,-;:cr- the attention of the Legishiture to the
keik!Gues of the ChiaA, fo th'e mode of their col-
teLtion, and 10 t: The mode. of

their elltectit%n -obliges many of: the
Clergy `to' becOote ;what the Honourable Baronet
beli:nd hi (Sir Ronsitr iluxTo:4) expreised
•s m kit uf their becoming--Dealers
:tot Jobbers in Corn, &c. He believed that 113
per.,tin will deny that. this mode of ,cell pion,
4 or,
!1 words, the present system 'of Tythes;
Is pernicious to the Agriculture of the Coup_
try, hut it is notles so tO 'MI morality, for stireiy
nothing can be more . destruffive of the morality of
the Country, thah the dissentions and disputes which
the.colleaionof Tythes ,frequently occasions • be.'
tween the People,anit thOse Who are appointed to
superintend and direet, their spirituakconcerns.—
When, 'tbetefore, .any general SySteill of regulation
is brought forward, which
.he hoped -will be done
soon, by. the Right. Hon. Gentleman or some of 'his
Friends, he hoped that this subjed will be particu-
.
larly attended to. He perreeity agreed with the
Right Hon. Gntleman as to the necesiity of doing
sornethi3g to remedy the ev)ls arising from the
smallness .Of 'many of the Livings in the Church, as
no doubt this l'orms the great source of pluralities
and non.residence ; but he should, indeed, be sorry,
if recourse should: be had to the public purse. to te_
medYetitis evii,.convineed as he ‘Vat :that the reve-
nues of the 'Church colettiVely, if properly diStri'...
butdd, are perfeetly.adcquate for the sufficient pay.
meni of-all its Officers. •

'7",ie CHANCELLOR of the- EXCHEQUER
he would feel as much sat;staetion ,as the
lionoutable Gentleman if 11 objedt could, be ac-
Complished without- expence to the Public, bur
he doubted much if this could, be efietied. He knew

the pahPie-ptejudied oti ,rhe subject ; but. ha alt.°
knew that 'in many cases •i 4 iivas a very, false pre.
judica. For instance, it is thought that the incomes
of the
,Dignitaries of -die Church are exorbitant,
-whereas ha" could, slate from his own. knowledge,
that the incomes of seyeral of .she Bishop's' do not
arnount.to..more than what youl4 1e 'thought ade.
ciuAte,for otlickating Parish Priest.' .

Mr. WHITBREAD said a few/words in exp)ana-

tion.

• 4 i
• 1514. :101(1V PARNELL had no objeffinns to
the Motion, bur reverted to himself the liberty of
opposing the Bill in the proper stage. 1-le c‘ontenti..
ed; that the principle of the existing law is good
it ought not to be; annulled Because particular hard-
ships may result from it. _ _

D'r., LAWRENCE approved of the proposed
measure 'as being specific in its nature, but expressed
his disapprobation of the speculative plan of future
general alteration of the Law, which had been
brought forward.

Mr. DICKENSON, jun. supported the. Motion,
and insisted upon the injustice of almost all the
aCtions which have of, late been brought Under the
Ad of HENRY the Eighth. • .
The SIIE.4KL:I? begged to say a few Words on
this most important question. Many subjects were
'evidently conneeled with it, which, in his opinion,
this was not the time to discuss. The law, as it
now stands, :was framed in very different circum.,
•stances than those whieh now exist, and for very
differtnt ?wpm from than to which it nqw made

subservient: revision of it, therefore, in ordertc
adapt it more W.:present .circumstance and purposes
cannot but be expedient. Besides in the A6t
HENRI-Num-there is a power Vested in the Crown
.to dispense with the law, which shews, that even ii
framers- of it liatl;tio
.their cOntemplition, dream
stances in which the execution tifit would be imps
per. Some alteration or the law, and some new rep;
_lations may therefore be in present circumstances nt
cessary, though the ginttial ininciple'ought still t
be adhered to. lie was .by no means clear, the
:these should go to the extent proposed by son
;gentlemen,. but the measure now .proposed ws
;unconnetted With these .speculative, , plans. HI
therefore, .
_Approved the
.motion now _before
tF
House. As to allowing the Clergy to hold farms t
a certain extent, he conceived it to be propel
but if carried beyond, that extent, .to be very dat
I..;erous. He would only farther observe, that th
Prohibition on this subjed; contained in the Lase
was originally-intended solely as a restriction
the 'ol'eat religious_ houses-existing when the Lay
j was, framed, which made immense profits fro
agricultural pursuits.
The Motion was then put, and agreed to:
The Report was brought up, received,
and nreec
to by the House, and leave was given to bring 211
• Bill pursuant to 'it.
BANKERS NOTES PORGERY
• Sir
LF.ORD Moved the further considers:
tion of the Report on the Bill for the better ,fre.ven.
• ti©n of the Forgery of Country Bank Notes'
schief
Mr.-DENT said, he thought that more
than good would result from this It woulet
give tt- degree of confidence in Country Bank-51
whiell their security did riot authorize them. .l his
Bill went to put. the Country
jl
wit!! the. Bank of England, and ~to
gislative sanerion, to which they were notentitlai.
1k moved; 'flier-Clore, that the further consideration
of Report be taken :into consideration on this
day three months, •
Siir Rt) BE leis BUXTON seconded this Amend'
h
ment, on situilar'grounds..-• He thOugut that te
Law against Forgery, as it now stood, was suffiejenti.
Since the influx of Paper, and the gridc..ioct6se °
cotintry'Banks, 'the value of Money was. lessened,
Andthe•,price of'evcry,.articicdf.Provision in'
creased., agnikvs e then•an a
:Itei:ec..4
W.'ELFORD defended the Bill. Its 01)0
was to protett Private Property, and also the ?Lib;
Js lic tom having forced upon them Forged Notes, ..3f
well As for the' better prevention of the etioe
Forgery, insdalso for the mitigarion of the Purity"'
,relit of Forgery, in certain instances. -
Mr.'DENT explained, .. ,
Colonel .argued in favour of the Bill'
,Jts• tendency was to .save innocent persons, IY,ll°
may-have-talcat-inpyinent Forged country Sank
Notesl •-
Mr. rIERNEY objected-to the Bill, on the
groUnd of. its....being..-a.hatsh increase of the Pent/
Laws, witl,lout a :cause
~being sufficiently :iv& (_)311
to justify such a'ineasUre. As the Legislature,/1:
made the Bank of England Notes pit of the Pro' a
lat big medium of the Country, the /louse sva!h_°,
llna 6ito protect ttirl:l4t.tiitef3otuonr:b,°:!:,lsisla`Plfr°olltfrCt)o7;U'Obt.rlYir .111'°aPskuciNistic°1:eriis.
c;ruld lie
sons of little or no Prospine'r°tlyittf.°Zei-k:teh.arsrkf.- e7l
be ,Ptellrg; •
Banking 'trade ; such rnett'coui .Sea y
the legal
fair.trader6, nor were -they' entitles 'to.,
protection Of their Notes.
no ore could be,Said.togive A Legislative 5,P4_1:64.
to the Country' -Bank Notes; their applying SI
Northern parts of the Country,, were, artiCle FIQ
to them.could be said to dro-so. Such Notes ,10- t
• olit
S.'M.tii? pox ,argued in favour Of:the /11111
,;s,
prime necessitY;
et Of
theOmn-st)ltlieong,uetsitlieo.Hnotth!sac t ncle stand, p•--
,
• Ayes 40---Noes'itMajority 29.
,The,.Report -was then'brotiht up :Indre94 SO,
and the or:tiered to be read a third tone.
VICE AiMiRALTAt CO:URTS 13114,
The flouse•Went into a Committee °I) the 13111 >S
I eS
granting certain contingent annuities. to
of the•Vite-Admiialtr. Courts of Jamaica)
nice', and, Halifax, in Nova Scotia.
SCOTT,- after -stating the talents a,naft,ruegidi
'sPedability. of those who. would be appointo, nej,
the Englishsßar, to fill such Courts, rneOtafice,
ell4t (A.: Contingent Annuity, after adnsl* setnot
proposed to be allowed in any one case, should:
exceed the sum of t0.001.'
Mr. TIE P. NEY wistieti to guard against., ir *veio
•
improvident expenditure el:4We Public 14Q,121;
was afraid the present 'riseaspreviai Calcidateti brjos
crease. the- influence. iof Minister,}, as,
.fors!4
knew .to the •coniraryk the persons t to l*.'rricveo
ed by Mikisrets might be rec'alled in six 04'
months. time, _ and.(eceivethis annuity.
• , • • • • onuor"
v4/34. .:•i 1,7.h' aintessed .that, the , one.
able .06,neleitants,.§bservatiOn was. a reasottibi`old be
As it u;as of iwoixiitice that the 'selation
he., pi.,,.
,
miioeof Rerso tdat,,Aeune eispwietiee ought
Nveli as general respcltability, the proYisioliotiot
to lie inatte. thV'S'aine tinieo; he t- Ole
1(.110; Ullreikongbk time at WhlCal sdr‘
a onni.ty,ritigiit.
,granted 7 • •supposiog after
vice-of-fiVeinr4Vvenyeais:' . • estioil
The .SPEAKER said he-approved of the strgio ass'
(6%00-tO-a toin pe'riod a');esub.
. .of limitin 1 °Pe
service,‘ leaving it at the Onie time a ,)r,
jecl for the 'future 'consideration Of PatOan't,l
on
any
,special. case 'should "occur. 40 a call uit, ;It 3°
berality or, the House to •grfint aPn
earlier-period. ,
e idea'
Mr. JOHN concurred -in the . sam
140 t ' 11
'Sir IV. S COPT then- rnosred, thlt ‘,
Esel
ateo
Iw
o.urrs
opinion- of the
,Committee, that - I lis.; -`l\/.4Jund,
enablett CO grant,. out of the Consolitlof ja.
to such judges,Of the V C
ice-Admiralty net.
maica, Martinico, and HalitlX.,-
tan
__" i
• nn_..,ted till
exceeding tOcol. such
Atot e
after a certain period of service. • woe
morrow; t theCcn
Mr. BRAGGE brought up the Repot , o
reslusukleedß:tsh°elußtieopnobreti,vvngas' 20grrde:rdettin;Oabnedr:1:e7i4431 I°'
inittee of Supply, relativ,c:-td the ..65t4b115"1"

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Adjourned at a quarter past eight o'clock till to.
Morrow.

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King haa been pleased to appoint the Ho-
Iltottrable Arthpt. Paget to be His Majesty's Envoy
txtraordinartand Minister Plenipotentiary at the
Court of Weans.
Ile Xing has been pleased to appoint William
Drummond, Esti. to be His Majesty's Envoy Ex.
traordinarr at the Court of:His Sicilian Majesty.
The King has been pleased to appoint Alexander
Stratan, Esq. to be His Majety's Secretary of Ern-
' bassy at the Ottoman Porte.
The King has been pleased to appoint Charles
Stuart) Esq. to be His IVlajesty's Secretary of Le-
gadon at the Colin of Vienna.-

a Military College, and Military Asylum {or the
Children of Soldiers, which was ordered to be taken
into further consideration to.mori ow:
The Committee on the Bill for continuing Mar.
tial Law in Ireland, was deferred fill to. morrow.
The Irish Copy Right Bill was read the first
time, and ordered to be read the second time on
Thursday.
The. Irish Tax-Exemption Bill, and the Consta.
tiles' Allowance Bill, were read the second time.
Sir 701 IN SINCLAIR moved, That an hum-
ble Address be presented to HIS MAJESTY, to re-
quest that His MAJESTY would be pleased to give
orders that there be laid before the House, Copies
'cif such Surveys and Estimates as have been formed
'for making Roads across the Northern Counties of
Caithness, Ross, Murray, and Inverness, pursuant
to a Resolution of the House of the yeai :789.
Mr. W. DUNI) AS said, it was,his intention in
the next Session of Parliament, to bring forward a
Motion for a Grant of 504)00i• for making ale-
neral communication between the different parts of
the Country.
The Motion for an Address was then agreed to.
The House went into a Committee on the Irish
Stamp Duty Bill.
Mr. CURRY moved, that it be an instruftion to
the Committee that they have power to make pro.
vision in the Bill for the relief of persons in Ireland
holding instruments called Kerry Bonds, without
bting duly stamped ; which being agreed to, and
the House resumed, the Report was ordered to be
received to-morrow.

• The Irish Tea Duty Exportation Bill was read
the first time.
.Mr. VANsirrAß:r moved for leave to bring in a,
Bill to indemnify all persons who may have printed,
published, or dispersed any Papers, printed under
the authority of any head Officer or Public Board,
__"" all penalties incurred by the 39th Geo. 111.
..weave Was given accordingly.
The Additional Stamp Duty Bill was committed,
and the Report ordered to be received to-morrow.
191 r. VANSTTTART gave notice that he should
Move to-morrow, that the Lords of the Admiralty
he empowered to grant Prize Commissions to the
Commanders of Excise or Customhouse vessels.
The Malta, Trade was read the second time.
tilr• VANSITTART brought up the account of the
Civil
Establishment of Sierra. Leone.
The Brick Duty BilLwas committed, and the Re.
port ordered to be received to-morrow ; as was al.

/.0 the Bill to prevent certain articles of provision
Born being taxed according to the regulations of the
ituaion Duty Bill.
The Crown Debts Bill was read a second time,
Ind committed for Thursday.
The other ()Oars of the Day were deferred.