The Sun.
London, England, 1801-06-11 00:00:00

,
VMUalliitt
rand nallSpOif9i in nit to amount
to ,
1,686,87 tl. that, is, the whole of the expence
proposed to be voted for.the.particular branches of
the Naval Service. `Beslides this, as.,i hove already'
stated there has been:a 'v.ery'considerabie increase of
expenditure in consequence of the increased charges,
upon the various at tiefes-of provisions necessary for
the Naval Service.' 'lt- was -hoped,' that the 'price of
some of :hese articles would be reduced, but until
very lately, almost all. tie articles of provisions
have rather increased than diminished and under
such circumstances, I found that I could not be jus.
titled,- nor should. I ad according :to thy own sense
Of Propriety, if I.did not .now „resort to the. House
for the power of raising, if necessary, Two „Mil-
lions on a Vote of Credit. It will.be highly grati-
fying to me, if, on. the restoration of Peace, some of
this Vote may become unnecessary, as well as that
bur Establishment may be 'educed.; .but I could not
hold out to Parliament before the conunencement of
its Recess, that such .an aid. will not be 3vanted. I
think it fairer to state the real case, which I hope I
shall always. do the Wad' continues : nor would
have been in•the poWer of the Executive Govern:.
!pent to have herd out longer than the mOrith of' Oe.
tuber, without'mking -this -application .to Parliament.
1 shall truly rejoice: if circumstances shall so turn
oat as to 'render any, part of this provision unneces.
airy ; but that -Willa I prOpoie at present is no
Mere than the exigency blaffaits requires. I shall
therefore, with a puled readiness to explain every
thing that requires it, and to answer as well as
4, :am able tiny question, which any; Member may
Pleasedto put to me, mOve; " That it is the opi.
Ilion of this Committee, that. a sum not exceeding
Two Millions be granted:to firs MAJESTY, to en.
able Has Mkt Esty to take such measures as the
Caigency of aXiira allay require.'.'
The Question being put,
Mr. }ONES' said, that the Minister stated with
great truth that this was a great ilerriand:—,lt, was,
certainly, an alarming, sum. The Right Hon'..Gen-
tleman had, with great credit to himself, on a for-
trier occasion, diserainied all' concern 'with the last
"r"CelltiVe Government; and this it was necessary
for him to do on his own account:- He hoped the
present Chancellor of the Exchequer would' see the
necessity of stating to the House)- in 'order that the
rubric might kno‘ip, when the late Administration
(11ded., and when the present began. For his own
'art, he rather 'felt this proposed Two Millions
"te of Credit, to arise out of the defic:encies
of the late Administration ; because the Right
Hun. Gentleman. alluded to the Armed Neutrality,
which certainly did 'grow out of the measurer of•the
?ate Administration, and so of course did the al.
lowance made. to Seainen detained under the late
Embargo: He 'should •be extremely happy to see
that to which the Right Hon. Gentleman alluded
appear before us, namely, 'That we were travelling
on the road to peace, for it did appear to him to
be very necessary ; but he would ask in What
=rate -we were with regard to Negotiation ? 1 his,
maviever, he would Say,' that if there were publish.:
Rd on our parta Manifesto .on.the subjel of our in-
clination to Peace, he. was perspaded the people of
r.rance woald "Shaw their wish .for Peace, for they.
*rslied it air njueir as,4the-yeople of England did, to
"'bout it was so essentiali.-ttilsrlie;.Waa persuaded
fileY epuid not subsist for time without
t4a_klanifoto were pnlashed 'on that sUbjessl, the
a,;. cgniui would be obliged to' follow, our ex..
~and attend to what we published, ' or ire
Nrld not sit long on the Throne of Eratiee.
Itonclude.ki with repeating a wish that the
.14Lioi the.EXcirE.QtYra. ,would let the 1.-lo•tise
Know .Where the late Adinir.istration e)Ar-1, and
Ivhere'his own began';, fur he should not be able to
~,f3rru a._judgmdnx „of th..4l444i,nisuati on of thelkight
Gentleman;untesi6he Ap'e the House that
statement.. w. •

Mr. TLER/gfr said; there did' appear tp
within the last: two-Years, a considerable e:ieeed-
itlg in the I•Tavl.EStimates, Attain ,the lasl year no
4,ess titan swo nugitins, arid 4naalf,.lo...which sub-
•left he hoped the Right 'Hon..Qentlentan wooldat-
teud, ;la explain them as they,: came hefote the
tiouse fie thought. th.tioiise Wks 9Oveno the
J'ight Hon. Gentleman. for-stating ;the ser_.
rces t-which the proposed vott was to he applied ;
Lt wasp Perfealy
.right to lay them befOrelltelibuse,
btu he could not bell:, 'Saying that the J?tter. way, as
it appeared to -,him, %;;•ottld lie, to proprie,'Voting
,this 'Upon -Estimate rather than a Vote of.-iCre-1
"it, because upon '.aVote upon' Estimate the House
knewpretty we'll what it :.was. Which was int4nded !'
111 be done _with the Money they voted; NS' would
be much more convenient to the House, and the dif-
'tutee to the PubliC would be none ; for if the mo-
-1.4t7 was wanted for the Public Service, it must be
whether it . was raised upon .an:EstWte of'
necitic Service,, or upon a • Vote of Credit, which ,
•Zeclled. nothing except the amount of the Service.
the Bud et was opened by the • late Crimi..
Citl.l.olt Of the EX 611 F.-QU P. R., he demanded a Vote:
• 45F• Credit-for sOO,OOOI. z,,,a this •waS:a subject which:
T4q;,iired some explitnatia. He underitood,
!ver; by. the statement of the Right Hon. Gentle.';
luatl, that nothing concerning the Artily ivpald
quire any further Estimate ; Von this it .appeared.
tohini the matter W 33 dcf-COA ei for there' was no
..Provision for the Ex;x:ditioh 'to Egypt--therre was
10 provision in the` Army Extraotdinaries for this.
txpedition ; so th"at Lidtss there was a saving in:
the ArmY, of Whkh he was taut consciO3, the case
woUhl he:ditto-tilt-from ' what it 'appeared .tt this
tiriftsi3e C. HA' LOR of "the Exc. nEQ,U4:I
`aid, he was extreinely sorry to pledge hithself that
the Vote, of the Attny, wouldhe 'Snffickitt• for the
Arrq---Lhe said no He NV . howevet.
tot aware o 1 any dilfeeenee in the eXpenee from the
Yitimate. If, any 'should .appear, it would be the
Plat of Government for not considering the expencti
418 f: the Army this year, and comnarin it With-,tht!
vote for it. With respea ta'the application of the
two millions now proposed, if it -gliould be the ple4
.611 re of the House to grant it, he' begged to he an
(letyood as notkpledgirrihimselfl6 apply, the whole
?f It to the'Naval Service' although tt waS. to the
it.lcrelsed demands of thatSeritic'ethat this' applicai
on ,Aeasowing.. He was Inot^award ,aily oOler
ot_s.cr vation necessary for him to_ niake,....oiezpi..l.l3at
which referred to the Vote of Credit of Saco:mot.
that vas ' 500)C001. for Great Britain, sntl