The Sun.
London, England, 1862-10-11 00:00:00

HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE.
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If there is to be any demonstration whatever in
favour of GARIBALDI, here, in the metropolis of
England, let us hope that it will be one worthy of
the great name calling together our fellow citizens
to express sympathy for the owner of it—himself
the most heroic and patriotic of all living adven-
turers. If done at all, let it be done in every way
befittingly. And, with that especial proviso, let us
observe, likewise, " If 'twere done,'twere well 'twere
done quickly." Time has already been allowed to
slip by over much. Insomuch, that for the hope of
getting Guildhall as the rendezvous, and the Lord
MAYOR as the Chairman of the projected
meeting, the GARIBALDI Committee has
missed its opportunity. Had this committee
been prompter in action in the way of organising
the proposed assembly, Mr. CUBITT would have
been kept more strictly to his word, or rather (we
will admit as much in his power, now that he has
peremptorily refused) to his half promise, His
civic lordship would at any rate in that case have
been denied any colourable excuse for evading
that half•promise, which excuse he very readily and
adroitly found when he contented himself with
pointing to the recent amnesty. However, now
that the committee does know at last for an
absolute certainty that there is to be no Lord
Mayor in the chair, and no authorized gathering of
a Garibaldian character in the ancient Guildhall of
the City of London, it is satisfactory to observe that
the more energetic members of this committee are
vigorously endeavouring to hasten forward their
revised preparations with a view to convening by
themselves another monster meeting, at another
place, and under the authority of another chairman.
The date, the locality, the chairman, in point of fact,
have all been selected ; the final resolution upon
these points, having been formally arrived at only
last night by the sub-committee.

The GARIBALDI Meeting then is to take place on
Friday, the 17th of this present month of October.
The London Tavern is the appointed rendezvous.
WESTERN WOOD, Esq., M.P. for the City of Lon-
don, has consented to preside as Chairman. And
it is worth remembering at this moment that Mr.
WOOD—besides being " the son of his father,"
that is, of that famous Liberal Alderman
WOOD, historical as one of the foremost
champions of Queen CAROLlNE—occupies his seat
, as M.P. for the City
in the House of Commons
ando
acceptedt , when
capacity are
of London, under two circumstances especially en-
titled to
n his
en
c thishosmmen
considering him
as chairman of the forthcoming GARIBALDI meet-
ing. Be it borne in mind then that Mr. WESTERN
Wood is M.P. for the City of London, as the
successor of Earl RUSSELL, now her Britannic
MAJESTY'S Foreign Secretary. And let it not
be forgotten that he was chosen by the electors of
the City of London to succeed Lord RUSSELL, as
their representative, in opposition to the very Lord
Mayor of London who has now declined to be chair-
man of the GARIBALDI meeting, and who has also
as positively refused to allow any meeting of that
kind to be held within the walls of Guildhall. Under
the circumstances, therefore, we cannot but think
that the sub-committee has made not merely
an eminently judicious, but also a singularly happy
selection of their chairman, when they have named
for that office the successful in place of the unsuc-
cessful candidate for the suffrages of the Liberal
electors of the City of London ! And one, moreover,
who was successful when treading thus in the path
already traversed during so many memorable par-
liamentary sessions by the noble lord now entrusted
with the care of the Foreign policy of our Govern-
ment !

Whether the three other City members, Mr. R.
W• CRAPiTORD, Sir JAMES DUKE, and the Baron
LIONEL DE ROTHSCHILD will attend upon the 17th
inst. to Istupp„,,t their Parliamentary colleague upon
his taking the chair there upon the platform in the
great room at the -Louflou Tavern, may be still
doubted. But, at any rate,,
it is mort, earnestly to

be hoped that arrangements may speedily be en-
tered into securing to the approaching assembly
the attendance of a goodly cluster of M.P.s
and of orators capable of addressing themselves
befittingly and in a becoming spirit to the
discussion of those great themes for political elo-
quence just now, namely, Italy and GARIBALDI.
Particularly after the lamentable scenes that have
been witnessed lately in the precincts of our own
metropolis, and we grieve to note also elsewhere
throughout the country—it is desirable, above all
things, that those who shall take part in the meet-
ing arranged for Friday next, shall be capable of ad-
dressing themselves in a calm, resolute, and manly
spirit to the consideration of the still most delicate pro-
blem of the Roman Difficulty. The refusal of the Lord
Mayor to preside over a GARIBALDI Meeting in the
Guildhall (as originally intended by the committee),
should hasten that committee on to the demonstra-
tion before all London, nay, before all England,
of the fact that nothing in the proceedings that
are about to take place at the London Tavern
under the chairmanship of Mr. WESTERN WOOD,
one of the Metropolitan representatives, need have
precluded it from the Guildhall, or have prevented
from taking the chair the Right Hon. WILLIAM
CUBlTT—twice Lord Mayor of London, it is true,
but not once (as Mr. WESTERN WOOD'S name will
significantly enough remind his lordship) not once
M.P. for the City of London !

We must complain no more of the Emperor of
the FRENCH for yielding to the Ultramonatists, the
Temporalists, or whatever we please to call them.
We have been accustomed to look upon it as show-
ing a little Imperial weakness to be afraid of French
priests and French women,-and a little disregard of
international rights and the principle of non-inter-
vention, that his MAJESTY, at a serious cost to
France, should keep up a little army in Rome; we
must henceforth be more modest. We, it seems,
are quite as timid as he can be. Cardinal WISE-
MAN, Father this or that, and the scum of London
who are at their oecK fairly beaten
our Government. And Sir RICHARD MA/s.z, of
course acting under higher orders, sends his army
to the parks substantially to defend the Tempo-
ralities of the Pope. The Irishy of the metropolis
have carried their point. They did not so
much want to hold meetings themselves, as to
prevent others from doing it. They cared less to
shout " the POPE and slavery for the Catholics of
Rome," than to prevent others passing resolutions
in favour of " GARIBALDI, and the Liberty of Ca-
tholics in Rome as well as in London." Instead of
enforcing quiet on the disturbers, our authorities
have silenced the peaceful; and because Irish
Papists would howl and brandish shillelaghs, free
Englishmen must not speak and wield peaceful
arguments
We dislike this surrender to a mob. We gave
our opinion, but a day or two ago on the advan-
tages, on the whole, of these oratorical gymnastics
in the Park. We are quite sure, in their way,
that they are as lawful and beneficial to those
interested in them as the speeches of
Messrs. WHALLEY, SPOONER, NEWDEGATE, the
O'DONOGHUE, and O'REILLY in the House of
Commons. The space is so ample, that no
speaker and his party need to interfere
with another ; so ample that all who do
not wish to listen to the orators have but to
walk in another direction. For ourselves
we have found that the Hyde-park freedom of
speech is very much like the freedom of the press ;
it has told us, what but for it we should not have
known—the notions that are floating in many minds
in circles to which we do not gain easy access.
We know what the people think, or at least what
they talk, when every costermonger or shoemaker
has his platform ; and we have a notion—a per
verted one it may be—that the open fermenting
of even ignorance and folly is better than its
secret working. " The public discussion of popu-
lar and exciting topics" is really a singular thing
for English authorities to suppress. It leads to
" tumults and disorders," adds Sir RICHARD. Why,
it is the old plea of the SIDMOUTH and CASTLE-
REAGH school—the plea of despotic rulers all over
the Continent —of the POPE himself, and of
Czars and Emperors. Hitherto the glory of
Englishmen has been that they could dis-
cuss popular and exciting topics without needing
an army of Gendarmes to preserve quiet ; that they
could govern themselves ; that they could, as Lord
PALMERSTON expressed it, "if a man hit him hard,
hit him as hard as he could in return, and go home
and think no more of it." This is what English
Protestants can do, and have always done. But
now, because Irish Papists choose to interfere and
with brutal violence, the English Protestants are
to be denied their opportunities, not abused before,
of free discussion.

We repeat. we do not like this striking our
colours to low brutality. It is not the way in which
a people such as we are ought to be governed. The
disturbers of the peace ought to be made to know
their place. The mischief is, we see, spreading. At
Birkenhead, a meeting for " sympathy with GARI-
BALDI" was to be held, not in a park, but in an in-
stitute, and one belonging to the clergyman who
took the lead in the meeting. But, embold-
ened, we suppose, by the Hyde Park affair,
what must the Irish Papistry of the place do, but
congregate to smash the windows! Obviously the
next concession must be an order in Council, or
something of the sort, that no such meetings may
be held in any place where a dozen Irishmen can
congregate and make it the occasion of a Popery
riot. After the mischief was done, indeed, two
" Fathers" came forward and persuaded their flocks
to indulge no longer their holy zeal. It were far
better if the Fathers were taught that, unless they
instructed their sheep better beforehand, the latter
must be placed quickly under the pastoral care of
the governor of the gaol.
The weather is approaching when park oratory
is likely to cease from natural causes. But it is the
principle of the thing we dislike. We do not relish
making Papal ruffians the rulers of the park. For
the GARIBALDI meetings we care but little. GARI-
BALDI does not need them; and if some place can
be found without windows liable to Papist smash
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careh to prevent the heroes of Spoleto from thinking
thave but to make a disturbance in this
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"tumults and disorders." It is offering a premium
to the disturbers of the peace. The sufferers under

Mr. TYRWHITT'S penalties will now exult that, by
frightening Mr. COWPER, they have silenced their
enemies.

The member for Berks has adopted our sugges-
tion, almost indeed in its very words. lie and Mr.
DISRAELI cannot agree on the subject of giving
prizes for good conduct to agricultural labourers."
Never, we believe, face to face, but at the distance
of Berks and Bucks they have exchanged, we can- I
not recollect how many shots, but neither has yet
ever winged his man; it occurred to us, therefore,
that this agricultural affair of honour might be
settled in another way, and that if Mr. DISRAELI
persisted in
resolve
to havingba
balance
n prizece them labourers,
by
Mr. WALTER
Prize landlords.

This the hon. member now proposes to do. A+ the
meeting of the East Berks Agricultural Sociay he
said that " he hoped the suggestion he was abut to
make would meet with the assent of the chaiman ;
as the society offered prizes to encourage god con-
duct in labourers, he proposed to offer a pine for
the landlord who built the best cottages."

A very good beginning of Mr. WkLTER'S
a better subject for a first prize could lardly be
selected. It may violate the laws o political
economy in one aspect, but it is qlite accor-
dant with them in another. The demand of
the labourers ought to regulate the supply, and the
quality of the cottages, we may be tod. But on
the other hand, regarding labourers as the agricul-
turists' chief implement of production—his steam-
engine—and admitting that he ought to have his
machinery in the best order, good catages are as
essential a part of the best labour is a good and
soundly built engine-house of a well-vorking steam-
engine. A healthy, moral, sober, decent set of
labourers are a clear gain to an estate ; and it has
now become apparent enough that sithout cottages
which conform to the demands of sanitary prin-
ciples and moral decency, such a cliss of labourers
can never be expected. The labour is the life of
an estate. If it be in the hands of sober, steady,
intelligent, and trustworthy men the fact alone is
equivalent to a rent or a profit, o say nothing of
higher considerations. But then are these higher
considerations. We are not yet luite come to " the
only nexus between man and man—cash pay-
ment." AVe have some sense cf duty left towards
those who in one sense dependon us, but on whom,
in another, we are even more cependent. And, as
it is out of the question that the agricultural la-
bourer should improve his cottage, and yet clear that
both on moral, and in the long run, on pecuniary
grounds, it needs to be improved, the only
person we can loot to is the man who
who has the most pernanent interest in the land—
the landlord.

Mr. WALTER has had his attention specially
called to the subject of labourers' cottages. A gen-
tleman in the county has offered a prize of I:50 for
the best essay on the most efficient means of im-
proving labourers' cottages. In connection with
this, some frightful details of the consequence of
cottages having but three rooms, and we suppose,
too many have not even that number, were brought
before him, since Mr. WALTER had been requested
to act as the adjudicator of the prize. The task
seems to be not an easy one to decide what a good
labourer's cottage ought to be. The expense must
be limited ; direct profit there can be none—at least
five per cent. is out of the question. Mr. WALTER
has been trying his land on his own estate, and
finds the work to be one requiring time. He pur-
poses, therefore, to make his prize a triennial one,
and to offer "a gold medal triennially to the land-
lord who built a specific number of cottages, of a
specific number cf rooms, not under three cottages
in three years." We hope other prizes will soon fol-
low. Such as—cue for the landlord who kept least
game, or who dismissed his gamekeepers altogether,
another for the landlord who drained most land—
another for the longest and least restrictive leases—
another for the landlord who refused to canvass his
tenants or know which ',gay they voted, and who
therefore gave his hearty support to the ballot.
Perhaps more subjects for prize landlords may
occur to agricultural minds--but quite confident
are we that the prizes are quite as much needed for
good conduct on the part of Oak Squire as for the
same on the part of the labouret. Indeed, we are
inclined to think, they should gc first. So much
of the improvement of the agricultural populations
must come from above, that we should begin with
prize landlords rather than with prize labourers.
In that case we have little doubt we should, in a
short time, see Mr.WALTER himself addressing the
House of Commons with his prize distinction on
the breast of his coat.

A National Monument, in honour of DANIEL
O'CONNELL is now being set on foot ia Ireland, to
attest the grateful recollection, among his fellow-
countrymen, of his many and splendid services for
the good of their fathers, of themselves, and of their
remotest posterity. It is monstrous, indeed, to
think that such an attestation of gratitude from Ire-
land to O'CONNELL should have been left until now
to be afforded as by a sort of grudging after-
thought. It is inconceivable how the idea should
never have been seriously thought of until so many
years after his death—it being now actually
more than fifteen long years since he
breathed his last at Genoa : sending his
heart on to Rome (whither he was, at the time'
making, broken heartedly, a kind of Pilgrimage),
and his inanimate body bask to Dublin for solemn
public interment. Dying in 1847, as O'CONNELL
did—lreland, only in 1862, entertains the idea of
raising a National Monument in proof of her lasting
gratitude to his memory ! Now that this tardy
act of justice, as well as proof of gratitude,
has been commenced—let the efforts now making
in Ireland remain unrelaxed until a sum shall have
been collected sufficient to liquidate the expense of
raising a monument worthy of the great name
to be inscribed upon it ! Worthy of commemo-
rating at once the patriotic genius of DANIEL
O'CONNELL, and the grateful admiration of his fel-
low countrymen. He was one of the noblest and
truest Orators in an age of oratory. He was for
many years a veritable Tribune of tie People. As the
author of Catholic Emancipation he has earned an
eternal right to that magnificent title he will hence-
forth hold in history is—The Liberator ! If he was
for more than a quarter of a century a thorn in the
side of a succession of
_English Ministries, it
must be:, acknowledged in his favour that under
every conceivable provocation he never once ex-
cited his fellow countrymen to armed Rebellion!
He whose word was so long and so potently their
law ! He who could influence the passions of the
Irish multitude with the beck of his finger, with the
glance of his eye ! So loyal in obedience to the
law was he, throughout the whole of his stormy
career, in spite of the known impetuosity and
impulsiveness of his eminently Celtic character, that
he even provoked the imputation to himself of poli-
tical cowardice by promulgating as a guiding axiom
for his followers, that avowal still deemed by many
to be the avowal cf a poltroon), that there is no
political advantage worthy of shedding one drop of
human blood to gain ! Forgetting as we can
surely, one and all of us very readily do, now, the
folly of that nonsensical make-believe during the
latter years of his life, all about the Repeal of the
Union—forgetting this, and remembering only his
great servicfi.s to the cause of Liberty as the Cham-
pion and Victor in the ever-memorable and long-
protracted contest for the triumph of the
cause of Catholic Emancipation, we wish well to
this tardy project at last of a National Monument
in Ireland to the name and fame of DANIEL O'CON-
NELL, great as "The Tribune" of the Irish people,
but greater still as "The Liberator" of the
8,000,000 of his co-religionists in the United
Kingdom.

_
The Victoria and Albert, royal yacht, has sailed
from Portsmouth to Antwerp, to be in readiness to embark
her Majesty and the Royal family, i.vb.o will arrive at
Osborne next week.
His Excellency Count Lavralio returned to town
yesterday, from visiting Viscount and Viscountess Palmer-
ston at Broadlands, 'buts,

JATEsr NEWS.

CONSTANTINOPLE, OCT. 10.

The mosque property is to be secularised. It is
expEeted that this will result in a gain to the
revenue of .£3,000,000 sterling, a part of which will
be appropriated for payment of the interest on the
NewConsolides,and the remainder for public works•
The arrears of interest on the Old Consolides are
now being paid.

BERLIN, OCT, 10.

In the Upper House to day Herr von Arnim-
Boytzenburg introduced an amendment, supported
by 58 of the members. The amendment proposes
that the house should reject the budget of the
Chamber of Deputies, and adopt that of the Go-
vernment. The President of the Council, Count
von Bismark. Schonhausen, read a declaration from
the Government, concluding as follows :
" The resolution proposed by Herr von Forken-
beck having been adopted, the Government cannot
hope for any success from further proceedings in
the Chamber of Deputies. It may even expect an
aggravation of conflicting principles, which would
increase the difficulties of bringing about an under-
standing. The Government, under these circum-
stances, will in future only take into consideration
the common interests of their fatherland. In these
it includes the duty of insisting upon the constitu-
tion also remaining a reality in those respects which
concerns the rights of the Crown and of this House."
It is stated, upon the authority of some members
of the Upper House, that the adoption of Herr von
Arnim's amendment may be looked upon as certain

TURIN, OCT. 10.

A proclamation, signed by two Hungarians for-
merly belonging to the Hungarian Legion, was sent
from Verona to Alexandria with a view to induce
their comrades to return home, Austria guarantee-
ing them a free pardon.
General Turr invited those who wished to accept
this proposition to declare themselves, and leave
the Italian service.

The Hungarians have, however, rejected it with

scorn.

The Neapolitan Railway Company have an-
nounced that they hope to be able to open a portion
of their line next January.
The N ationalites of this evening publishes a letter
from Dr. Ripari stating that Garibaldi's wound
progresses favourably. The physician expresses a
hope that the cure will be more complete than was
apprehended.

LISBON, OCT. 9.
The King and Queen have attended a review of
the troops in camp.
The Duke of Saldanha has been appointed com-
mander-in-chief.

There will be a State ball to-night at the palace.
The Black Prince is said to have proved quite
equal to the Warrior on the passage to Lisbon, and
to have far excelled her under canvas.

THE BOMBAY AND MAURITIUS MAILS.
MARSEILLES, OCT. 10.
The Enxine, with the above mails, arrived al
Marseilles at 4 p.m.
The mails leave for London at 10 p.m.

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LONDON, SATURDAY, OCT. 11, 1862.