The Sun.
London, England, 1862-11-07 00:00:00

Prosecutor—l first accused him of stealing my
watch and chain.

Mr. Hutchinson—Upon your oath, did he not get
out of the cab and say you had taken improper liber-
ties with him, and was it not then that you charged

him r "'N certainly not. I charged him
ot morning.
Prosecutor—i...,
first, and he apologised l
Mr. ifutchinson—Did you not', apologise to the
magistrate?
Prosecutor—No. I said if the property was rr
stored the soldier might go. I got the property
from the police, who found it on him.
Mr. Hutchinson—Did he not charge you with
having committed an indecent assault ?
Prosecutor—No, he did not.

Cross-examination continued—On the day I gave
the prisoner in charge for the present robbery I
might have been in the company of several of the
Grenadier Guards. I did not commit an indecent
assault upon one of them; nothing of the kind
occurred. I was in company with many other sol-
diers before I met the prisoner. I was drinking in
a public house with them.
Mr. Hutchinson—Did you put your arm round
one of them in the presence of others ?
Prosecutor—No.
Mr. Hutchinson—Will you swear it ?
Prosecutor—l will.

Mr. Hutchimson—Did you not, I ask you upon
your oath, do this, and did not the soldier push you
away, and say he would have nothing to do with
you, you had better go elsewhere ?
Prosecutor—Certainly not. Nothing of the kind
took place.
Cross-examination continued—l met this prisoner
at KnightThridge. Really cannot shy whether that
was after I was with the other soldiers. I treated
everybody I met. Soon after that I asked him to
go in the cab. I told the cabman to g 3 to Euston-
square. Don't know why I told him to go there.
Mr. Hutchinson--How came you to fix upon the
same place that you went to with the other soldier
you have told us about ?
Prosecutor—l don't know. Prisoner told me to
go there, and 1 told :he cabman.
Mr. Hutchinson—Who told the cabman in the
other tiff tir to go to Euston-square
Prosecutor-1 can't say.
Mr. Hutchinson—What were you going to Eus-
ton-square for on the present occasion P
Prosecutor—To give the prisoner supper.

Cross-examination tinned—l had no supper
there. I cannot say whether he had any. We re-
turned to Knightsbridge. Missed my chain after
I left the cab; it had been across my waistcoat,
attached to the watch by a piece of string. Thought
'prisoner stole the chain becaase I raw him steal the
pin. I saw the pin in his hand ATllen we left the
cab. He snatched it from my breast. i :aye him
into custody as soon as I could find a policema2.
Re-examined by Mr. Sleigh—My father was an
officer in the army. I have been educated by tutors
—clergymen. I have relations at Bury St. Ed-
mund's, and while there used to stop at the Angel
Hotel. With regard to the first soldier Mr. Hut-
chinson spoke of, that was about three months ago.
Mr. Sleigh—On that occasion also I believe you
did what I hope you will never do again ; you were
very drunk, got into low society, and became mixed
up with this soldier?
Prosecutor—l did.

Mr. Sleigh—And I distinctly understand that
this man never said a word about any impropriety
until after the charge of felony had been made
against him ?
Prosecutor—He did not. He was taken into
custody and locked up; next morning I appeared,
and on his restoring the property he was discharged.
He then retracted every thing he had said.
Mr. Sleigh—You have been asked by Mr.
Hutchinson whether you were ever indecent with
other soldiers. Now, upon your oath, did you ever
put your hand upon a soldier, or any other man,
with an indecent intention ?

Prosecutor—Certain y not. My watch-guard
was not found upoa the prisoner. When he left
the cab he went and spoke with some low women.
From the time I gave him into custody until some
time after I had charged him he made no counter
charge against me. It was not till, after the charge
had been read out that I heard him accuse me of
taking improper liberties with him. When pri-
soner stole my pin he passed it from one hand to
the other behind him, and I tried to snatch it from
him. I identify this as part of my pin, which has
been broken.

Mr. Sleigh—l will ask you but one question
more, which I will put in a general form. During
the whole of your life, whatever improprieties you
may as a foolish boy have been guilty of, such as
drunkenness and so on, have you laid yourself open
to any imputation being thrown upon your charac-
ter for indecency P
Prosecutor—No, never.
Inspector "[older said—On Thursday morning
the prosecutor and prisoner came to the station-
house. Mr. Rogers made a statement in his hear-
ing ; he charged him with stealing his gold chain
and pin from his person at Knightsbridge. He
said prisoner invited him to go to Onslow-square,
and they got into a cab together, went to Picca-
dilly, stopped at a public-house there, and had
something to drink, and then returned in the cab
to Knightsbridge, where the soldier seir-d the pin
and took it from his scarf, and upon the prosecutor
looking down, he discovered his watch-chain was
gone, and that prisoner went to acme prostitutes
who were passing at the time. From a quarter of
an hour to 20 minutes elapsed before prisoner said
one word in reference to the charge he afterwards
alleged against Mr. Rogers. Judging from the
mode in which he detailed the circumstances I
should think Mr. Rogers was sufficiently sober to
know whether prisoner took his property or not.
After the charge was taken I told the constable
who had brought the prisoner in to search him,
and I asked him what he had in his hand, when he
produced 25., and said they were what Mr. Rogers
had given him, after taking improper liberties with
him. Mr. Rogers denied it indignantly. Prisoner
had not until then said a word about indecency.
To make sure of his attendance I bound the gentle-
man over in the sum of /20 to appear; and I sent
a constable with the gentleman to his house, to see
whether his address given was correct. The gen-
tleman then said, " Search his jacket, and you
might find the pin," and the broken stem of a pin
was found in his jacket. He gave no explanation
about it.

In cross-examination, it was admitted that the
stem of a pin produced had been tested, and found
not to be gold, but spurious. Prosecutor was drunk,
but not incapable. Prisoner was not drunk.

S. D. Lowndes, a poor ragged fellow, who gave
his evidence very flippantly, said that when Mr,
Rogers got into the cab in Piccadilly with prisoner,
after leaving the public-house, he saw he was wear-
ing his gold chain. Witness alleged that prisoner
" looked like a guilty man " man then, and said he
had been induced to come forward because he heard
the soldier was going to get £5OO out of the gen-
tleman, and "be thought he would stop his game."
Mr. Sleigh having stated that that was his case,
Mr. Ingham said that in his opinion the confir-
mation was not sufficient, and the prisoner was
therefore discharged.

Mr, Sleigh said it was only just to his client to
state that he could produce evidence to show that a
person who had stated that he had witnessed an-
other act of indecency on the part of the prosecutor
must have been mistaken, as the prisoner was else-
where at the time. He trusted that the investiga-
tion of that day would absolve his client from any
imputation, and he was prepared to show, by Sir
Thomas Blake and the ministers who had been
prosecutor's tutors, that he was a person too moral
to commit such an offence as that imputed.

BOW-STREET.— GOING HOME FROM
WESTON'S.—A young man named Horace Thor-
burn, of gentlemanly appearance, attended to
answer a summons, charging him with an assault
on Mr. Charles West, who is better known to the
public by the professional name of Bernard, the
tenor singer at Weston's Music Hall, Holborn.
Mr. Beard prosecuted, and Mr. Innes defended.
Mr. Beard, in opening the case, said the charge
was of a most serious nature. Some disagreement
had arisen in consequence of the manner in which
Mr. Tnorburn's name had been associated with that
of a certain lady. On the 29th October. Mr West
received information that, in consequence of his
being supposed to have made a statement, but
which he denied having ever expressed, certain per-
sons intended to waylay and beat him in the street.
After the close of the performance at Weston's that
night, Mr. West left the hall accompanied by the
person who had given him that warning, and who
was desirous that his presence should protect Mr.
West from the intended outrage. At the caonrnder ofthe
Chancery-lane, the street being clear,
danger apparently passed, Mr. Wres
him. But as he passed the endof by'
Southampton-
buildings friend left
athampton-
buildings the defendant, accompanied _ several
friend's who had been with him at Westons, came
the defendant
out of Southampton-buildings, and
said to Mr. West, You havebeen
giving me a vile
character." Mr. West replied, I have done nothing
of the sort." Mr. Thorbu rn said " You are a
liar." Mr. West said, " I have nothing to say to
you," and proceeded on his way. At the corner of
Carey-street he was overtaken by a person Who
struck him a violent blow on the back of the neck
with some weapon. He fell to the ground, and re-
ceived severe contusions on the forehead
rorn
strik-
ing against the flagstones. He got up, and found
that his assailant was the defendant, whom he
seized by the coat, endeavouring to prevent him
striking again. Defendant
strike him again in the did,
face,however, and in the
struggle which followed
they both fell to the