The Sun.
London, England, 1862-05-10 00:00:00

RESERVED LIST.

Sir J. HAY asked the Secretary to the Admiralty to lay
upon the table of the house a copy of the form of commis-
sion promoting the first-named 90 officers on the reserved
list of the navy to the rank of captain ; and a copy of the form
of commission promoting the last two officers on that list to
the rank of captain, with any explanationthere may have been
for the necessity of changing the form of commission : to
ask for a return of the names and pay or other emoluments
of the first sixteen captains on the reserved list : and to
move that the case of the reserved captains be referred to
the law officers of the Crown.
Mr. B. Cochrane, Major Edwards, and Admiral Walcott
supported the motion. _ _ _

Mr. BERKELEY opposed the motion, and was under-
stood to say that he thought that the officers on the reserved
list were not entitled to the promotion in question, when
there were so many lieutenants who were engaged in active
service.

Lord C. PAGET said that this was a question which
had been so frequently discussed in the House of Com-
mons that if he went into it at any length he would only
be repeating what had been already stated by honourable
members. He might state that, in consequence of the
opinion expressed by certain hon, members on the opposite
side of the house, his noble friend the Duke of Somerset
had laid the whole question before the law officers of the
Crown, who were of opinion that the course adopted by
Government was quite correct, His (Lord C. Paget's)
sympathies were with the officers alluded to, but he did not
think they
viVre entitled to be planed on an equality with
'uiticers engaged in active service. He had no objection to
the production of the document asked for as regarded the
00 officers and 12 officers in question, but drew attention to
the fact that it was not usual or convenient to lay the
opinion of the law officers on the table of the house.
Mr. TALBOT congratulated the house on the fact that
this matter had been referred to the law officers of the
crown, but he thought the opinion of these officers should
be laid on the table of the house.

Sir J. PAKINGTON said that there were public rea-
sons why the opinions of the law officers of the crown
should not be laid on the table, and he trusted that the hon.
member (Sir j . Hay) would not persevere with this subject,
but rest satisfied with the conviction that he had done all
in his power for the class of officers in whose welfare he
Ras so much interested.

Mr. MALINS said he had been present at the different
discussions which had taken place on the vexata questio,.
Which ho considered had become more perplexed by the
speech of the right hon. member, who had taken a different
view on previous occasions. He thought the case laid be-
fore the law officers of the crown should be submitted to
the house, in order to enable honourable members to
judge if chat
statement embodied all the facts
of the case, lie had the highest opinion of
the law officers of the crown, but as a man of experience
and common sense, an erroneous opinion might be obtained
from the most eminent lawyer in consequence of the nature
of the statement laid before him.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the fact was
that the statements made by the officers who felt themselves
aggrieved, had keen laid before the law officers of the

Mr. POTTER also bore testimony to the extent and seve-
rity of the destitution prevailing in the cotton districts, and
stated it as his conviction that no system of public charity
or poor-law relief would be adequate to grapple with the
evil He recommended that an inquiry should be instituted
by the Government by means of a Royal commission or a
seleA committee of the house.

tit- C. WOOD stated that he was in possession of no
mere recent information from India than that which was
contained in the published telegraphic despatches; but he
believed the condition of Indian finance was such as to ad..
mit of a considerable reduction in the scale of duties affect-
ing cotton.

Mr. VILLIERS acknowledged the extent of the suffering,
and expressed his admiration of the noble manner in which
it had been borne. He assured the house that he had availed
himself of all the means at his command to become
thoroughly acquainted with the state of the workpeople in
the cotton districts, and the -measures adopted by the poor-
law guardians and overseers to meet the difficulty. Appre-
hending the pressure that must be experienced if the un-
fortunate contest in America continued much longer, early
in the year he addressed a circular to every union in the
cotton districts and the districts connected by business
with the American trade, expressing his anticipations
of approaching suffering, and requesting them to make
all the provision in their power for an unusual occur-
rence of distress. And in the majority of cases the an-
swers he received assured him that the guardians were
ready to meet any emergency that might arise by means
of their ordinary resources. He was happy to say that
the returns forwarded weekly to the Poor-law Depart-
ment showed that there had been some diminution of dis-
tress at the close of last month, although he was quite ready
to admit that many and great privations were endured by a
largo number of persons. He believed, however, there were
ample resources in the public rates for the relief of distress,
even if it should continue to spread to a greater extent. The
present rate of expenditure for the relief of the poor in Lan-
cashire was Is. 10d. in the pound on the rateable value,
which was considerably less than the amount levied in thn
Sheffield. With regard tolln laodur teiicte-tad'iotbelreve

it was unnecessarily or harshly imposed ; and such was the
high feeling of the people of Lancashire generally that he
thought they would rather do work than receive parish re-
lief. But seeing no prospect of a cessation of the distress,
tho Poor-law Board had instructed experienced persons to
proceed at once to the cotton districts to inquire into the
mode of administering the law, and whether it was carried
out in a just and proper spirit, as well as to bring into har-
monious action with the guardians the voluntary relief com-
mittees who were now occupied in doing so much good.
From all the information that had reached him, there was
no reason to complain of the authorities on the spot, and he
was satisfied that no greater harm could bo inflicted on the
poor themselves than by creating distrust in their minds in
that respect.

Mr. BRIGHT complimented Mr. Egerton on the able
manner in which he had brought the question under the
notice of the house. Although there was great and growing
distress in the cotton districts, it was not so universal as
many persons at a distance supposed, whilst it was more
severe in some towns than in others. The suffering in Lan-
cashire in 1840 and 1841 was much greater than at the pre-
sent moment, and although he was not sure that so many
persons were then out of work, it had continued for a much
longer period after a season of much less preceding pros-
perity. But there was no doubt that the case was
growing worse, and must continue to grow worse. He con-
sidered that, in these painful circumstances, the boards of
guardians ought to exercise a wide discretion in regard to
the treatment of this grave case. It was necessary, too,
that other assistance should be given than that which the
guardians could supply by means of rates; and a commit-
tee formed in every parish might collect subscriptions in
aid from those who were not on the verge of destitution
themselves, but had larger means, and perhaps did not pay
rates in proportion to their wealth. At present he thought
that even if the distress continued for some months to come
Lancashire was well able to take care of itself without send-
ing the hat round the country. Turning then to a recent
speech of the Foreign Secretary, Mr. Bright animadverted
with some severity upon the statement of the noble earl,
that he hoped in a few months the Northern States of
America would permit the Southern States to become inde-
pendent, and the effect of which, he observed, had been
most injurious. For the day on which that speech reached
Manchester the whole cotton trade was checked, yarn fell
from 7 to 10 per cent,, and the trade of Manchester had
suffered greatly. If he might give the noble earl a piece of
advice it would be in the words of Hosea Biglow's grand-
father—more forcibly than grammatically expressed—when
he said—

" Don't never prophesy unless you know."

Mr. lIIBBERT, the newly-elected member for Oldham,
said that, although the people in the distressed districts bore
their sufferings with great fortitude, they thought the Poor
Law Board should suspend their labour-test, which at pre-
sent greatly interfered with the distribution of relief.
General LINDSAY, speaking on behalf of the board of
guardians, relief committee, and town of Wigan, disavowed
all desire on their pact to resort for relief to the Consoli-
dated lund until the means afforded by the poor rates and
private benevolence had been exhausted. He thought the
speech of the President of the Poor Law Board was calcu-
lated to be most useful, especially in fortifying the guar-
dians in doing their duty. The determination of the Go-
vernment to send down a competent person to make inqui-
ries on the spot was a wise one, and would be attended
with valuable results.

Mr. BAZLEY also urged the necessity of mitigating or
relaxing the rigid labour-test, and providing an indepen-
dent supply of cotton by opening up communication with
the interior of India through the improvement of the Goda-
very river,
Mr. GILPIN denied that the wish was generally enter-
tained by the boards of guardians to dispense with or relax
the labour-test, or that the term "rigid" was justly appli-
cable to any of the regulations of the Poor Law Board.
The Marquis of Hartington, Mr. W. Egerton, Sir M.
Farquhar, and Sir G. Grey also addressed the house, the
Home Secretary taking occasion to speak in high terms of
the patience, fortitude, forbearance, judgment, and right
feeling which had characterised the demeanour of the
working classes in this crisis of their sufferings.
The subject then drops ed.
ROYAL COURT OF JERSEY.

In answer to Mr. Sergeant PIGOTT,
Sir G. GREY sated that the question of the reform of
the constitution and procedure of the Royal Court of Jer-,
sey had better be left for the present in the hands of the
States of the island, and that he did not contemplate in-
troducing any measure on the subject.
SUPPLY.
The houso having gone into committee of supply, re-
sumed the consideration of the civil service estimates.
Mr. DILLWYN moved that the vote of £116,695 for the
Department of Science and Art be reduced by the sum of
£7,106 ; but on a division the motion was negatived by 111
to 48, and the vote agreed to.
Oii the motion of Sir PEEL, leave was given to bring

be sold for 50 sous. First half of Ab. M. 6 subs.
Count F. de Lagrange's Maubourquet, 2 yrs, Est 10Ib
(Hunter) 1
Mr. Hodgman's Lady Wilson colt, 2 yrs, Est 101 b
(J. Reeves) 2
Mr. H. Darley's Disappointment, 3 yrs, Bst 101 b
(Custance) 3
Mr.. Lowther's Camberwell, 3 yrs, Bst 101 b.... (Rogers) 4
Mr. Jos. Dawson's The Abbess, 2 yrs, Est 71b (C. Gray) 5
Count Batthyany's The • Temple, 2 yrs, Est 71b
(Wheatley) 6
Betting-6 to 4 agst Maubourquet, sto 2 agst The Abbess,
and 5 to 1 agst any other.
Immediately the flag was lowered Maubourquet was in
action and came on with a clear lead, Camberwell going on
second, with Disappointment at his side, and the Lady Wil•
son colt lying up with them. On entering the cords Cam-
berwell droppe I back, and his place in attendance upon the
favourite was taken by Mr. Hodgman's colt. The latter
made his effort a few strides from home, and headed Dis-
appointment, but failed to reach the Frenchman, who
won a good race by a length ; half a length separated
the second and third, and the others passed the post as
placed.

Match-100 sous, h ft. T,Y.C.

Lord Westmoreland's Knight of the Bath, Bst 71b
(J. Goater) t
Mr. Payne's Bandage, Bst (G. Fordham) fi
Betting-2 to lon Bandage, who made the running to
half way in the cords, where he was caught by Knight of
the Bath, the pair running locked together to the end, and
finishing with a dead heat.

Match. 50 sovs. T.Y.C.
Lord Westmoreland's Confidence, Bst 71b ..(J Goater) 1
Sir J. Hawley's Cowley, Bst 121 b (Wells) 2
Betting-11 to 10 on Cowley.

The favourite cut out the work to within 200 yards of the
chair, when he was headed by Confidence, who won, after
a close and interesting finish, by a head.
The Newmarket Stakes of 50 soya each, h ft, for 3-yr-olds;
71b ; fillies, Bst 51b; the second horse saved
Lord Chesterfiad7 Gattiveif , ',no
Sir J. Hawley's Argonaut, Bst 101 b (Wells) 2
Lord Stamford's Xurulio,Bst 101 b (A. Edwards) 3
Betting-6 to 4on Canwell, 7to 2 agst Argonaut, and 4
to 1 agst Xurullo.
Shortly after the signal flag was lowered, the horses ap-
peared on the brow of the Ditch-hill, and the favourite,
with Argonaut on his whip hand on the upper ground, was
seen in possession of a slight lead, Xurullo being on the
lower ground. They ran in this way to the entrance of the
cords, where Rogers eased his horse, and Argonaut went on
with a slight advantage to the top of the hill. Rogers then
came in earnest, and succeeded in landing the popular
colours of the noble earl by the sb.ortest:of heads ; Xurullo
was beaten off some distance.

Handicap Sweepstakes of 26 soya each, h ft. Winners extra.

T.M.M. 15 subs.
Lord Zetland's Carbineer, 4 yrs, 7st 91b (inc. 101 b extra)
(A. Edwards) 1
Mr. R. Ten Broeck's Amy, 4 yrs, sst 71b (J. Grimshaw) 2
Lord Glasgow's Makeless filly, 5 yrs, sst 131 b (C. Gray) 3

The following also ran :—South Lancashire, Stanton,
and Lady Blanche.
Betting-6 to 4 agst Amy, 3to 1 agst Carbineer, sto 1
agst Stanton, 10 to 1 each agst Lady Blanche and the
Makeless filly.
South Lancashire, in company with Lady Blanche, Stan-
ton, and Amy, made the running, the Makeless filly and
Carbineer lying off to the new ground, where they got
closer together. On reaching the first half of the Abingdon
Mile .post Amy rushed to the front, and, with the Makeless
filly, Stanton, and Carbineer in close attendance, came on
with a clear lead, which ehe retained to the dip. At this
point Stanton was beaten, and Carbineer went in front,
was never afterwards headed, and won, after a close race, by
three parts of a length. Stanton was a bad fourth, South
Lancashire fifth, and Lady Blanche last, beaten off a long
way.

Sweepstakes of 10 sous each, for 3•yr-olds and upwards.
Weights for age, with optional selling allowances. Last
half of Ab. M. 6 subs.
Captain God's Madge Wildfire, 3 yrs, 7st 61b (£25)
(J. Daley) 1.
Mr. E. 1 homas's Castor Oil, 3 yrs, 7st 61b (car 7st 81b)
(£25) (Fordham) 2
Lord Stamford's Ballerina 3 yrs, 7st 61b (Z 25)
(A. Edwards) 3
Mr. H. Darley's Disappointment, 3 yrs, 7st 61b (£25)
(Reeves) 4
Mr. Angell's Mademoiselle de Champigny, 3 yrs, 7st
61b (£25) (T. French) 5
Mr. R. H. Nevillo's Dioncoa, 3 yrs, 7st Glb (z 25)
(J. Snowden) 6

Betting-7 to 4 agst Ballerino, sto 2 agst Mademoiselle
de Champigny, 6 to 1 agst Madge Wildfire, 8 to 1 agst
Disappointment, and 10 to 1 agst Castor Oil.
Castor Oil came away with a clear lead, followed on the
whip hand by Disappointment and Madge Wildfire to half-
way down the hill, where Disappointment gave way.
Shortly after this point Madge Wildfire took a slight lead
and won cleverly by a neck. Ballerino finished a bad third.

The winner was claimed by Mr. Thomas.
Handicap Plate of 100 sous, for 3-yr-olds and upwars.

R.M.
Baron Rothschild's Mahala, 3 yrs, sst 101 b..• • Carroll) 21
Mr. Ingham's The Prophet, 6 yrs, 7st 21b • • V'eev—E,
Lord Westmoreland's Knight of the Bath, Morris) 3
Mr. E. Mill's Lady Derby, 4 yrs, 6st 71b ...... (Dale) 4
*lyre, 6st 121
The following also ran :—Waterwitch, Sweetsauce, Even- I
hand, Roesia, Fitz-Eva, Enfield, Cock Robin,
tumna, Keane, Tommy Jones, Breech-loader,
6 to 1 agst Nautilus, 100
Baliverne, Nautilus,Ver-
Golden Fleece, and Flatcatcher.
Betting-100 to 30 agst Kean°,
to 12 agst Sweetsauce, 10 to 1 each agst Vertumna and
Lady Derby, 100 to 9 eacli agst The Prophet and Tommy
agst Mahala and Breechloader.
Jones, and 100 to 7 each
away at the first attempt, with Mahala in front,
An excellent start was effected between the showers, the
lot getting
his immediate followers being Nautilus, Evenhand, Keane,
lying in a body close at their heels. On
The Prophet, Knight of the Bath, and Baliverne, and the
rresascrhidnigvisthi7Bushes Mahala increased his lead consider-
ably, followed by Evenhand, Knight of the Bath, and Lady
Derby, in which order they ran into the dip, where Even-
hand " cut it," and the second place was taken by Knight
of the Bath. On entering the cords, The Prophet came
with a rush, and headed Lord Westmoreland's colt in a few
strides, but was never enabled to reach Mahala, who won
with ridiculous ease by six lengths, two lengths separating
the second and third, and a neck between the third and
fourth. Tommy Jones finished fifth, Keane sixth, and
Breecn;oader next ; then came Nautilus, Baliverne, Even-
hand, and ;;;:tfield, close together ; the others were pulling
up as they went I:ast the post.
Match, h ft, Bst 71b each.
Lord Glasgow's Brown Bess' e'olt, 3 Yrs (Alderoft) 1
Sir J. Hawley's St. Alexis, 3 .... play Wells)_ 2
made to half-
Betting—lo to 3on St. Alexis,
way ill the cords, where Aldcreftjoitied the air

THE MALTON MEETING-MAY 22.

Acceptances for the Mahon Handicap. One mile and a

half.

The highest weight accepting being 7st 71b, it has been
raised to Bst 121 b, and the others in proportion.

Age at lb Age st lb
Doefoot
Springwell 5 8 9 Tim Whiffier 7 7
Prologue .. 5 8 6 Trust
Willie Wright .... 6 8 5 Bannerdalo
Longshot
Phantom
Crusade 4 8 1