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London, England, 1862-05-06 00:00:00

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ception to different points in ti.Ae,codpOir tt'4
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contended was not calculated 'to 4teeittp:AfEialtr4
national education.
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Mr. HENLEY also objected to the' od • detail, and
said that the language used in that document, so
regarded the tabulated matter, realised what Tal-
leyrand had said as to language being intended
to conceal our thoughts, or it was unintelligible to any'
ordinary Christian. (Laughter.) Had the code remained
as it originally stood, he should have felt bound to offer it
the strongest opposition, and he consured very severely the
difference which had been made in it between religious and
secular education, but at the same time he gave the Govern-
ment credit for the course which they had pursued in refe-
rence to a subject of such gravity, and one on which such
diversity of opinion might be expected to exist, as that of
national edne,tion. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. KINNAIRD dwelt upon the position of tho certi-
ficated masters, towards whom, he argued, something very
like a breach of trust had been practised.
Lord ENFIELD was of opinion that the compromise
entered into between the Govornment and the opponents of
the Revised Code was fair and just.
Mr. NEWDEGATE expressed his apprehension that
ilianyscteols in the poorer districts won!,l be closed, If
this should
prove to be the case he hoped that seine int„ans
would be devised of removing so grievous a blot from the
system.
last
classes speaker, said
would that,
be
abloMr. DILLWYN, referring to the objection taken by the
in
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to his
opcionmiopnl,ythweithchitlhdie•enreciofuitrhee
better -
ments of the Modified Code, both as to attendance and exa-
mination, but that the children of the poorer classes would
not be able to do so.
The evil might, in some degree, be
met by confining the education given by the State to
ele-
mentary instruction.
Sir I. PAKINGTON, while acquiescing in the course
proposed to be adopted, was not disposed to consider the
concessions except in the light of an experiment. The great
and striking defect of the scheme as now submitted was,
that it made no provision Thatever for the wants of a largo
portion of the working ciasies.
Lord It. CECIL was of opinion that the system would
not be productive of advantage to the poorer parishes, and
that in this respect the amended scheme would not have
the advantages of the original one. The real evil which ho
predicted from the alterations was the blow which would
be struck at the managers of schools, who ho feared had
ceased to entertain confidence in the Government.
The debate was continued by Mr. PEASE and Mr. AD-
DERLEY, the latter expressing his approval of the course
adopted by Mr. Walpole, and his belief that the conces-
sions made by the Government would not only carry out the
objects they had in view, but also satisfy the opponents of
the scheme..
Mr. LOWE, in replying to various objections, said that
he should be acting wrongly if he declined to accept what
the house was willing to give, simply because he might
hope to get something better under other circumstances on
a future occasion. He declared that he had no wish to
supersede -religious instruction, and believed that the code
would be found to work well. It would be presumptuous
in him, however, to regard the scheme as final ; but there
were two points which he hoped the house would never
concede, and which he had abandoned all other features of
the plan to retain. They were, that in all finanoial matters
the Privy Council should deal with managers alone, and
that a portion of the grant shculd depend upon an examina-
tion of the children. In conclusion, the right hon. gentle-
man congratulated Mr. Walpole upon having so completely
succeeded in his object, and behaved in the hour of triumph
with such rare candour and moderation,
The motion was then withdrawn.
Mr. WALTER moved the following resolntion :--" That
to require the employment of certificated masts and pupil
teachers by managers of schools, as an ludispensable con-
dition of their participation in the PArliamentary grant, is
iaexpedient and inconsistent with the principle of payment
for results which forms the basis of the revised code."
Mr. THOMPSON seconded the motion, which was also
supported by Sir S. NORTHCOTE, on the ground that ho
desired to see thetbsystem of education extended, and the
advantage of it given to a class of schools which had hitherto
been deprived of it. If the house came to some general
resolution that the principles of the code were principles
which demanded an approach to freedom of trade in the
matter of masters it would be taking a very important step.
Mr. ADDERLEY opposed the motion, believing that
its effect would be to abolish training schools, which must
be maintained if the existing system of national education
was to continue. It was in truth an attack upon the certi-
ficated masters.

Mr. DEEDES believed there were many instances inn
which schools might be conducted in a perfectly satisfactory
manner without the necessity of having recourse to certifi-
cated masters. Ho should, therefore vote for the resolution,
wishing to establish the principle that whilst on the one
hand they preserved the advantages which those masters
had given to the general system of education, on the other
hand participation in the public grant should be Allowed to
schools that might be properly conducted by uncertilficatea
mastore.
Mr. HENLEY also spoke in favour of the motion.
Mr. LOWE argued that if the proposal were adopted the
result would be to substitute for the existing system the
imperfect security of an examination that would no longer
be so stringent and searching as it had hithertobeen. They
would thus admit 15,000 and 16,000 schools and upwards
of 650,000 children more to share in the capitation grant.
He opposed the resolution, then, by reason of the enormous
expenditure it would involve without taking adequate secu
riiy for an efficient examination, break down the standard
of education by certificated masters, and strike a fatal blow
at the training colleges.
Mr. WALTER having amended his resolution by
striking out the words "pupil-teachers," the committee
divided, and the resolution was negatived by 163 to 156.
Mr. BAINES proposed a resolution to the effect, that,
in order to prevent an unnecessary expenditure of public
money it was expedient that the managers of a school, be-
fore receiving capitation money from the committee of the
Privy Council, should satisfy the inspector that the cir-
cumstances of the parents, on behalf of whose children suck
capitation grant is made, are such as to require public
assistance for the education of their children.
• Mr. BARROW seconded the motion, which he believed
would restore the national school to what it was designed
to be in the first instance ; for at present the children of the
working classes were elbowed out of those schools by the,
children of the middle classes and others who were able try
pay for their instruction.'
Lord J. MANNERS opposed the resolution,
on the
ground that it would place serious iropedioenta in the way
of the managers of schools.
After some discussion, in which Mr. Barnes, Mr, Hardy,
and Mr. Lowe took part,
The motion was negatived without a division.
A second resolation, proposed by Mr. BAINES, assert.
ing that it was unnecessary and inexpedient to grant public
money for the maintenance of evening schools, was also
rejected.3ir. H. It.
BRUCE moved that the examination in any
lthine ethheildprreinneihpaadlityof Wales should not be commenced
attained the age of seven Years.
The motion was opposed by
until
Mr.
TOin_adiviaion it
no, house havinwga Mr. LOWE and supported- by
Colonel PENNANT,
The Inelo rsensumegaedtiv,
ed by 136 to 61.
sure Bill was referred to a select committee.
The Writs of Habeas Corpus into her Majesty's Posses-
sions Abroad Bill was read a third time and passed.
The other orders were also disposed of, and the house ad-
journed.

THE INTENDED MARKETS AT SMITHFIELD,

There are not less than three bills now before
Parliament affecting the proposed markets and
market-places intended to be made at Smithfield,
for the sale of meat and poultry: The first of these
ie the Metropolitan Railway Bill, for powers to
make an improved communication with said market
places by railway into the north-western end of the
said market. This bill was read a third time on the
29th ult. Then there is the Metropolitan Meat
and Poultry Markets (Street Approved) Bill, to give
powers to the Corporation to take lands, and pur-
chase other properties for a street 60ft. wide, from
Victoria-street to the said markets on the western
side thereof; and, finally, there is the London Rail-
way Depot and Warehouses Bill, which Provides
for the repeal of the Railway Depot and Storehouses
Act, 1860, and dissolves the company called the
London Depot and Storehouses Company transfer"
ring all the powers conferred
Corporation of the
upon the said comma
pany by virtue of such act to the
city of London. This bill was read a third time in
the House of Commons on Thursday night last;
the street bill will go into committee before Mr.
Baillic's committee, to-morrow week, the 13th inbt
d. We hear, however,
given, the legal
and will be oppo,e • that si
nce
the 8111 CO
othffiecenrsotoicfesthoef.
Corporation, with the counsel on
both. sides
differences, so that the opposi-
tion°PPi topposition
1 were
in several instances, have amicably
bo now regarded as being more nominal
points of
than
arranged
maygr
ce
al. d
In their last report (to which the
Court of Comnion Council agreed unanimously), the
Markets Improvement Committee of the Corporation
recommended that when the Finance Committee
should have obtained the sum required for the pur-
chase of lands, &c. (Z 270,000), and for the payment
of compensation, &c., that they should have power
forthwith to issue the notices to all parties holding
such houses or lands, &c., as scheduled in the act
of 1860. The Finance Committee have reported
that they have obtained the said sum, and we are
told on the best possible authority that the notice*
are novf being prepared for lone: