The Sun.
London, England, 1839-06-08 00:00:00

No. 3.

Sin—While I protest dsistinctly against being held
n-;werable to any person out of the House to which I
b ong for anything said or done by me in that House of
l'Aliament, I am °disposed to answer your letter by the
respect which I have ever borne towards your family,
.04 which you are aware I do not now for the first time
profess.

When I shall have stated the the passage in your
. eh at the late Dublin meeting to which alone I re-
ferred in my statements on Friday last, and which I be-
lieved to have been spoken by you, because it was cited
by another speaker with approbation in your presence,
whhout any correction from yourself, you wilt at once
recive that the offensive words mentioned in your
'eller could not 'hare been applied to your nvectives,
n rtever other comments they might justly occasion. I
_note from the newspaper supposed to be in the interest
f your party (the Dublin Weekly Register), but I first
s?.w the speech in another
The people and their sovereign have triumphed over
1.7 e base, the lying, the tyrannical faction, for whom no
fl.l,.ehood is too great. They are abusing and calum-
,:; ,:ing every loyal and respectable man ; and they are
a and calumniating the people, the priesthood, and
t; ,ir religon ; and yet the liars would tell you that they
-,re the advocates of Liberal principles. But their false-
nod and hypocrisy have been exposed—we have con-
- ended their knavish tricks, and covered them with
shame and confusion."

" I tell you more, that if her Majesty was once fairly
paced in the hands of the Tories, I would not give an
Orange Peel for her life."

" If some of the low miscreants of the party got round
lit e Majesty, and had the mixing of a bowl at night, I
f-ar she would have a long sleep."
To say that Tory Ladies of the Bedchamber would
,oannit treason and murder the Queen may be very
senseless and very uncharitable ; but it could never,
with any propriety of language, be called a falsehood, or
even a slander. Accordingly, the only two persons pre-
sent, one of them of a countryman of your own, and a
Mend of your family, whom I have spoken to on the
subject, are quite clear in their recollection that I never
applied to your speech the words mhich you say have
naturally given you pain. The newspapers which k have
seen &so coincide with their recollection.

But I must add that the comments which I did
make upon your speech, though not such as to justify
any personal call from you upon me, were such as might
very possibly have given you pain. lam sorry for it
—and I expressed at the time the uneasiness which I
frit in being compelled by a sense of duty and of justice
t 9 make those remarks. However strong, they were
nit stronger than the universal feeling of the audience
nt along with. But I expressly ascribed your con-
duct to the feelings of party zeal and violent excite-
ment under which you laboured.
Your great unwillingness to have language applied to
yourself so incomparably less offensive than you.are re-
,resented to have used with respect to others, makes me
entertain some hope that, contrary to all probability, I
may have been misinformed by an incorrect report of
your speech. I have of course no kind of right to ask
)ou any question ; but I may, perhaps, be pardoned if I
add that nothing would give me more sincere gratifica-
von than to be told by you that this conjecture is well
founded ; and I should not fail to state in my place my
satisfaction at having been undeceived.
- I have the honour to be,
Your obedient humble: servant,
BROUGHAM.
To 11. Grattan, Esq., M.P., &c. &c.

No. 4.

Reform Club, Sunday Night, June 2. 1839.

MY LORD,—As your Lordship has declared that
ou did not apply to me the offensive terms !‘,falsehood
and slender, and as you state that " you are sorry"
thatotber comments made by your " Lordship gave me
pain," I do not hesitate to say that is all I could have
asked or desired.

With respect to the extracts from a reported speech
of mine which are stated in your Lordship's letter, and
with respect to the suggestion which your letter appears
to convey::=that I should explain to your Lordship
wligt I spcke on the occasion referred—l think it
1-ir.t to say, that while I do not admit the
.-.curacy of those .extracts, and that I disclaim the
.c0,.r,-e expressions contained in them—while I conceive
the imputation most unwarrantable—that I intended
t at v,hich is not expressed in any of those extracts—
;.arnely, to attribute to Tory Ladies of the Bedchamber
a design to cAnalit treason and murder ; while, too, I
freely acknowledge that every speech of mine is open
to public criticism, and that every report of it exp6ses
me to the animadversion of those to whom ii may be
s:ipposed to apply,-1 nevertheless must decline to
enter into further correspondence or auy explanation
With your Lordship, to whom in that speech I .never
nee alluded. I haw the honour to be,
Your Lordship's very obedient, humble servant,
HENRY> &RATTAN.
'ru Lord Brougham, &c., &c.

Grafton-street, Monday.
St:.—l have only now had the honour of receiving

le!tcr of last night's date, it having been only now

You b pleased to observe, that I do not deny
ving us:d the words on my own recollection—because,

though a person may b,-! sure of what he intended to

y, Ile never can be certain of what worth he did use
debate. I thereforo referred to the context, and to
the recollection of others, as well as to a report in a
‘741:,1y circulated paper, r2rnarkahle for the good-
! ,ss of it:; Parliamentary reports. This reference I
,on ;dere.l more 6;l6i:factory than any recollection of my

You seem to think that you did not intend to allude
0 Tory s (Ache Bedchamber, because, you did not.
yuumdf so, m oue of the passages which I cited
voor'sp,ech. But to whom else could they possibly
ro.c.i.,t to apply. The question raised by Sir Robert
1).:j, to which on were referring, was confined to them

I nc:w tl.ink it due to you that I should add the words
tl:e i,reentait's 1-urithl—the paper in which I men•
etl i <virn read them—and to which I alluded in my
letter, though I had not them by me. I agaia-dis-
right to 'ask you any. question respecting your
reel', and I never had done so except in order to have
opportunity—much dcsirel .by me—of stating that
you never had made the speech on which I felt it my
duty to corona-mt. I have the honour to be, &c.

BROUGHAM.
[Here Mowed an extract with the coarse expressions
that Mr. Grattan had denied having used].

MEETING OF' MIDDLESEX
MAGISTRATES.

Yesterday there was a full attendance of the Magis-
trates At the Sessions House Clerkenwell; Mr. Sergeant
Adams in the Chair. • _ _

Upon the motion of Mr. WILKS, the amended Prison
13,11 was referred to the Special Committee appointed on
the 21st of February to watch and report to the Court the
Bills introduced into Parliament that would affect the in-
terests of the county.
It was next moved that " The report of the Committee
erficanunts, and for general purposes, be received."
The Report of the Visiting Magistrates of the House of
CJrrection was read.

A special Report from the Governor of the House of
Correct i rn was next read.
A motion that it be printed for distribution, and for-
warded to Lord John Russell, was carried unanimously.
The Report of Clerkenwell Prison was received.
Mr. Tutx moved that a sum, not exceeding 8201., be
raised, by mortgage of the county rate, for the Middlesex
County Lunatic Asylum, which, having been seconded, was
carried unanimously.
Mr. Sergeant ADAMS mentioned that there was a memo-
rial on this subject from the parish of Marylebone, which
Mr. Edmonds, the deputy Clerk of the Peace, read.
Mr. RAWLINSON, in the course of a stormy discussion,
said he apprehended that they were not a Court of Jus-
tice, but that they were assembled there for the purpose of
•zondlietingApg6ol affairs of the county ; and if any per-
son wished ticl+Varialain of their conduct he bad a right to
be heard.—( Hear.) He would, therefore, move that one
of the deputation be heard.
Virtmcs said he had no objection to the greatest pub-
licity being given to their reports, bat they had already
been sent to the proper officers of the parish to which the
d-putation belonged, and it was for them to apply to him
for the information the) required.—( Hear, hear.) If they
entertained the metro-jai, It might be inferred that some-
thing had been.kept back, and, thereforet he would move
tl4it do lie on the table.—(Hear.)
13, arnendmea was, put, and carried by a majority of
17 to 3.