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YITIE SUN, LONDON, MOINIDAY„JeLy

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ject to consider, even beson'l that of resisting one individual;
it was that of deciding Whether they ivere to continue to sup-
port Reform or not,—( Hear, hear.) As proof of their deter-
mination to support theteausseof ,Refeeen„the l
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eiS 'section of tour Memo, rs tor the Uty of Lon, on.
Now, look at the consequences of abandoning that course, and
of allowing one Conservative Member, the nominee of the stu-
pid, contemptible, and absurd Tories, to succeed ? Let but
that env !ssenber Ze tattled bet their elates:lee, antl teceld it
not be calculated to be destructive of the plans and efforts of
Reform ? Their opposition to Mr. Horsley Palmer would not
be, ctihld not he personal; but it must be decided and triumphant
The it of London must again catty four Itertiriti Members
—they must copy themselves--they must repeat their former
triumph, or ishat would the country say? Would it not be
everywhere declared, if one (74-
_or,r,vative Member got in for
London, that in this city there was re-action ?—( Loud cries
of " Hear I") Seeing, then, how much was at stake, how much
character they would lose, how much the cause of Reform would
be injured by allowing the one, nominee of the stupid, absurd,
and contemptible Tories to succeed, he called or. them to be
firm, persevering, and decided in their support of four Reform
Members for the City. There being so much at stake, he
hoped that they would be united in their efforts, and forget
all minor difficulties in the great, important, and requisite
triumph to be achieved for the cause of Reform, if the
country were not to have the opportunity of representing that
there was "reaction" in the City of London. He hoped they would
adopt all possible means to carry the re-election of
those four Members who had so firmly supported re-
form,
and the success of whose election was so important to
the character of the city and the cause of reform ; and to adopt
the words of their gracious Queen, so essential to the " ame-
lioration of the laws and institutions of the country."
The resolution was then put, and carried unanimously.
CHARLES PERKINS, Esq., then came forward amid much
cheering to move the second resolution. Had he not felt
greatly the cause of the people, he should have requested the
Chairman to have placed the resolution in hands that were
much more capable to do it justice.—(Cheers.) He was not
in the habit of presenting himself before public meetings of
his fellow-citizens ; he never did so but on one occasion, and
that was in the room in which they were at present as-
sembled, at the time in which a Reform in Parliament
was first agitated, and he thought then that he could not do
better for the service of the cause of civil and religious liberty
than by promoting a Reform in Parliament. The resolution
he had to propose was as follows:
That in confirmation of these sentiments, and in aid of these ob-
jects, it is in the opinion of this meeting most essential to the in-
terests of the people that good and tried Reformers should be re-
turned to Parliament at the ensuing general election, and that the
four present Representatives of this City in Parliament, (Messrs.
Wood, Grote, Crawford, and Pattison) having approved them-
selves to the Liberal constituency, they be invited again to stand
forward as Candidates upon Liberal principles.
The very essence of the Resolution was, that they should all
unite—use every exertion, and move hand and heart to return
these four gentlemen to Parliament. The electors of the city
of London, by so doing, would confer great honour on them-
selves, and promote the cause of freedom and of liberty. The
metropolitan elections would be the first decided in this coun-
try, and it would be of the greatest consequence that the decision
of the City of London should be held up as an index for the
support of Liberal principles. To re-elect the four indepen-
dent Members of the City would be a very great step indeed
towards the advancement of civil and religious liberty over
the whole world.— (Cheers.) The aspect of the times was
such they must either go forward or backwards.—( Cheers.)
No person knew that better than the Tories—(Cheers)—
they were a little chop-fallen at what had taken place—
( Cheers)—they had exhausted the fund of the Carlton
Club—(Loud and continued cheering)—and they be-
gan now, according to the Press they employed, to complain
that they had not got the sinews of war.—( Laughter.) It
wastrue,perhaps, that the Reformers had not the sinews of war
to the extent that the Tories had; but he trusted, and he felt
convinced, that they would make up the want of the means by
the energy that they would employ.—(Cheers.) There was
a political saying which had been handed about for some years
" it's no mistake."—(Laughter.) There was no mistake now.
—(Cheers.) The people of England had had a full and
open declaration of their Sovereign that she would patronise
and support the amelioration of the institutions of the country.
—(Cheers.) That was all the people wanted.--(Continued
cheering.) All that the people wanted was that improve.
ment in the institutions of the country that their increase,
knowledge, and change of circumstances required. The
Queen had said that she would favour liberal principles.—
(Cheers.) Nay, she had gone farther—she had entrusted
the administration of the affairs of the country to men who
had been tried, and were avowedly liberal.--(Cheers.) Such
being the case it was the duty of the country to return to Par-
liament men who would support her Majesty in her gracious
declaration, and support her Liberal Ministers in their good
intentions.—(Cheers.) The people did not want, as had been
repeatedly said, to overturn the institutions of the country ;
all that they wanted was to have such a change effected in
those institutions as the times required.—(Hear.) They
did not wear the same shoes now which they wore
when they were three years old.--(Cheers and laughter.)
Neither did they wear the same dresses they did a hundred
years ago—if dress required alteration, so did the institutions
of the country. —( Cheers.) The people also wanted to do
good for Ireland.—(Cheers ) They wanted to make that
country not the weakness, but the strength of England—the
people of Ireland asked for nothing but to be placed in the
same situation as the people of England—to that thderisti,elrraaerpdtraeto..n
undoubted right and it' the electors ofeinLidioaenipiddeonandnewished to
show to the world that it was their wish to give equal rights
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The CHAIRMAN then put the resolution,
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tion, and was received with much cheering. He said
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—determined should be done ; and he thought Yit was(
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sible,
after the very ample acceptance they had given t
second Resolution, that he should not succeed in inducing
them as a matter of principle, withcut allowing any minorn'g
differences to affect their minds, unanimously to exert them-
selves in supporting the four gentlemen now
Members for
the City of London, but who again would shortly become
candidates for their favourable opinion. It had been his
good fortune to second the nomination of one .of the present
candidates who first appeared in that character among then)
immediately after the passing of the Reform Bill, and he could
without the least hesitation, that in every opinion expressed
by him, and in every vote which he had givep in the House of
Commons, he (I)r. B.) completely concurred with him ; and
therefore he, for one, had never been disappointed by him.—
(Cheers. ) He (Dr. 13. ) was no longer a member of the con-
stituency, but he would venture to say that if they again
elected his friend Mr. Grote—( Loud chesrs)—he would re-
main true to the cause of freedom, and true to all the best in-
t rests of his country and mankind. lie was persuaded also
that he might offer the same remark with regard to their
other Representatives, with all of whom he had not certainly
the happiness to enjoy the same degree of intimate ac-
vaintance, but lie had likewise watched their pene"dins,
in the House of Commons, and lie would venture to say, as
far
as an individual might 1 e allowed to express an opinion,
that in no instance had they swerved from the professions
which they. made before their constituents. They had
not kept the promise to the car, and broken it to the hope.
In all respects, therefore, they might claim from the electors
of the City of London entire confidence, and unabating and
universal support.--( Cheers.) He would new make one re-
mark upon the peculiar critical situation in which the country
was. He conceived that upon the present election would de-
pend entirely the future progress of Reform. If they intended
that the work of Reform should proceed, that the people of this
country should possess all their rights, privileges, and immu-
nities, that general education and universal civil snd religious
liberty shouid be enjoyed by the people of this country, they
must take care to seed to the House of Commons a body of
men who would loudly and largely express an opinion, and
then they might depend upon this, that the Court was ready to
move in accordance with their opinions, and a very refractory
community, which bad been puzzling the nation to a very con-
siderable extent would very soon give way and become quiescent,
co:die:cent and reforming.—(Caeers and laughter.) Nothing
but an absolute expression of popular opinion was wanted to
do away with all the present difficulties. The cause of Reform
was perfectly safe, and he was perfectly persuaded that whether
quickly or slowly, it was proceeding with all the celerity that
belonged to the present state of public opinion, and to the
force which popular opinion had put into the House of the
people, that was the house of Commons. The Learned Dr.
concluded, amidst great cheering, by moving the following re-
solution :

That this meeting believing their present Representatives to be
thus entitled to the renewal of the popular support ; and feeling
the paramount importance of unanimity, bath in sentiment and ac-
tion, at the present moment, do pledge themselves to secure the
return of these gentlemen to the ensuing Parliament, resolving to
suspend all discussions of those minor points upon which the best
Reformers disagree, and to unite in the support of men whose at-
tachment to the broad principles of national improvement are clear
and indisputable, it being by a general assent to such extended
views, that the good order of society can be best preserved, and
our liberties—both civil and religious matured and perfected.
RIVERSDALE GREENFIELD, EST, seconded the resolution.
After the very able speeches which the meeting had heard, he
should nut occupy their attention with any observations.
The CHAIRMAN was about to put the resolution to the meet-
ing, when he was interrupted by an individual whose name we
understood to be Adams, who inquired whether he might be
allowed to move an amendment? On being answered in the
affirmative by the Chairman, he mounted the platform, which
caused great confusion, several individuals calling out " Chair,
chair," and " Are you an elector ?"
The CHAIRMAN—II is suggested by many of my fellow-
citizens about me that I should put the question of whether
this gentleman is or is not an elector ?

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Mr. ADAMS said it was not a meeting of electors but Re-
f rmere.—( Interruption.) Ile would insist upon his right to
bo heard.—( Loud cries of " Chair, chair," and " Order.")
The CHAIRMAN—AIIow me to say that he can hardly have
read the summonses for this meeting, or he would have known
that it was a meeting of electors,—(Loud cheers.) It does
also seem to me, after the very general appeal that has been
made to me by the meeting, an impropriety on the part uf any

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the Reiol,*ti,..4.f ft.mt the Chair tit s dir-
I tied unanimou,::*:.
Alderman WOOD then came forward, anti Nt't'i !Oth
loud and reiterated cheering from all parts of the meeting.
When the applause was in some degree subsided, to worthy
"ap;:ioar before you for the 18!li
time, but neither time nor ci Nate I,'PY
changed me or my sentiments.—( Cheers ) As to mysehf I
am perhaps looking a little older, as thii.se grey hairs will
testlfri bet I am otherwise unchanged.—( Hear.) At all times
fretjileiir dpfitretutOties rife afllJi'Lli7d those who represent the
citizens of London of meelitig their' constituents, but
I do assure you that at no time do feel itiofe happy
than when an opportunity is afforded me of appearing
be tore so larg'e tin t.embly of illy fellow citizens, in order
to take their opinions as to ti itetht-r lam still worthy to
represent them in Parliament.—( Hear, hear, and !o.d cheer-
ing,) Gentleman, certainly, if I was not in good health, I
should have had at this period of life a fair plea for asking of
you to allow me to retire from tilt, Pafliamentary labours, but
I still feel that I have powers sufficient to enable me f.n attend
to my duties. I have in no instance in the present or in tiny
previous session, neglected those duties, or been absent on
the discussion of any important subject except under very pe-
liar circumstances.—(Much cheering.) I hope then, then, I
shall be ollowed to represent you again, and I trust that it will
be with the same zeal and fidelity that I have hitherto done.
I own, and I do assure'you most sincerely, that if I found at
any time that, either from long continued illness or any other
cause, I should be prevented or incapacitated from continuing
the performance of those duties, I should immediately resign
'my scat into your hands ; but at present I have no such ex-
cuse.—( Vehement cheering.) And I have a strong stimulus
why I should not disturb the representation of the city of
London as it at present stands. I believe that the next Par-
liament will be one of the greatest importance—l may say
the greatest that has occurred within my remembrance ; for we
have, as has been so well put to you, and which I need not
now repeat—we have at the head of the Government a Queen
who I may say was born in the cap of liberty—whose father
was always most favourable to its promotion, and even within
our own memory took an active and zealous part with regard to
education in the city of London. Her mother also, it has been
admitted on ;all hands, has done every thing in her
power to forward that useful institution of which he was the
founder. Therefore Ido hope that during the next session
of Parliament, matters of the most vital importance to the in-
terests of the citizens of London will be brought forward.
You have already by your resolution declared that the present
Government ought to be supported. I confess that I have
sometimes thought I go a little farther. I have never
asked any favour of them, and really my constituents have
acted most honourably towards me in that respect. During
the reign of the Tories they had the giving away of everything
within the City of London ; but such is not the case now.—
(Great cheering.) Whenever any of my constituents have
asked me to interfere in their behalf my answer has been " I
really have it not within my power, I cannot go to the
Government and ask them for a place."—(Great ap-
plause.) And really I have not had the power to
do so for this reason, that I have„„—always supported
the Ministry, when the interest of the people permit me to
do so ; but if there are points upon which I differ from them,
with your permission, I must be allowed to go a little further.
—( Hear, hear, and cheers.) I shall be always proud when I
have an opportunity to appear before you, and if upon any
of the great political principles on which I first started there
should appear any deviation on my part, let me be called to ac-
count for it, and I shall resign my trust into your hands.
( Cheers). I shall be ready at all times to listen to any advice
or suggestion you may think proper to offer me, and to be
in all possible ways at your service.—(lmmense cheering.)
Mr. GROTE then rose amidst loud cheers—lie said—Mr.
Chairman and Gentlemen-1 cannot but feel delighted and
elated at the tone and the temper which have distinguished the
present most respectable meeting—so enthusiastic in the
cause of reform, and so indulgent to my colleagues and
myself. —( Cheers.) Gentlemen, the time is now approaching
when I must restore to you the important trust you reposed in
me, and again present, in conjunction with my three col-
leagues, for your suffrages after the lapse of three years during
which we have in Parliament sat as your representatives.—
( Hear.) Gentlemen, I have had already the honour of being
twice elected as your representative; and let your future deci-
sion be as it may, this distinguished honour will
be most certainly recollected by me with pride and
with gratitude ; and although I cannot claim to have performed
one-fifth part of the service which my respected colleague on
my left has so justly and so properly boasted, and although •I
cannot pretend to have discharged the trust you have reposed
in me in such a way as to answer the expectations of my
constituents—certainly not so as to come to the level of
my own wishes, yet I can honestly declare that I
have not used this trust for any unworthy purposes.—
(Loud and long-continued cheering.) I have not evaded
the duty connected with that trust, and above all I have not
receded from those principles which in first coming forward,
I announced to you to be the basis and the foundation of my
creed and of my belief.—( Cheers.) Gentlemen, on one
,special ground, I consider the time, and the approaching dis-
solution of Parliament, to be peculiarly seasonable. and ap-
propriate.—( Hear.) The present Parliament has now sat
for three years, and that, in my opinion, is as long as any Par-
liament ought to sit.—( Loud and enthusiasCe cheering ) The
present Parliament will in fact have been what all Parliaments
ought to be--it will be triennlal—(Cheers)—and I should be
!dad indeed if I could hope that the next and all succeeding
Parliaments shall not last for a longer period. It is time after
Members of Parliament have enjoyed the trust reposed in them
for the period of three years, that the sentence of their con-
stituents should again be passed upon them, wnether it be
favourable or adverse.—( Cheers.) Gentlemen, at this parti-
cular juncture it is your province to note what has been done
for the cause of Reform since you last sent your representa-
tives to Parliament, and what has been done to effect its pro-
gress by your representatives.—( Hear.) From these facts
you will deduce whether what has been accomplished has
been _adequate to your expectations. Why it cannot
he twenty, I shall not now say—l shall not now enter into the
causes of tills.—(dear, hear.) I am here to explain my
own conduct, and in reference to it I shall venture to
say, that every measure which was founded by the
present Government which deserved your approbation had
my concurrence and support.—( Loud cheers.) I consider that
the English Municipal Reform Bill, which is the best, as it was
the earliest measure of the Government of Lord Melbourne,
is the great achievement of this Parliament in the cause of
good Government.—( Loud cheers-) I must not forget
also tho reductien of the stamp duties upon Newspapers,
which was effected in the last session—a measure which, al-
though not amounting to a total repeal of the tax, is one
of a character which in my opinion will tend to the best of
rll ends, the extension of knowledge and the diffusion of po-
litical diseussions amongst the great body of the people.
(To be concluded in our Second Edition.)

CONSERVATIVE MEETING.
CITY OF LONDON.-(THIS DAY.)

A Meeting of the Friends of Mr. Horsley Palmer was held
to-day in the above Tavern. About a quarter past one o'clock
the Chair was taken by Gco. Hibbert, Esq., at which time
there were about 200 most respectable persons present.
The CHAIRMAN said the Meeting was called to request Hor-
sley Palmer, Esq., to stand as a candidate for the suffrages of his
fellow-citizens at the ensuing election. Air. Palmer's name
had been put forward within very few days, and he was
commissioned now to say that Mr. Palmer would most decid-
edly stand if he received such promises of support as would
ensure him a chance of success. The Hon. Gentleman then
read the requisition, which, he said, was signed by so great
a number of gentlemen as to render it impossible to invert it
in any newspaper.
C. BARCI:AV, Esq., M. P., rose to move the first resolu-
tion, which was to the effect, that it was essential to the in-
terests of the City of London that it should be represented by
men of sound constitutional principles, who without being
pledged to exclusive views on political questions, would be ena-
bled to exercise his judgment on Conservative grounds. Little
known as he was to the citizens of Loudon, he presumed
that the meeting had selected him, because during the three
years he had been in Pat liament he had endeavoured to guide
himself upon those principles professed by Alr. Pabner—the
principles of moderation, clearly avoiding any extreme. Those
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take, and of the necessity there was of sending men—practical
men—men of independent minds, such as his friend Mr.
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Palmer, into Parliament. There was a great want of such men
in the House at present, and he fully believed that the trade
and commerce of the country had suffered most materially from
the want of advice such men could afford to the House. The
present time was a most peculiar one. The throne was filled
by a young and inexperienced woman, who was trammelled
by a party which had the support of neither side of the
House—Yeas trammelled by a party which was the
ridi-
cule of one side and the contempt of the other—( Ilear)—
a party who acre halting, between two opinions. During his
short experience in Parliament, he had seen them supporting
the appropriation clause in the Irish Tithe Bill, for the mere purpose of ousting their opponents. They had before that
as a Government declared against it, and now having gained
their ends, they had abandoned it. Than, again, with respect to the question of Church-rates, they had come forward with a
measure, which he had no hesitation in declaring to be one of
the most objectionable that bad ever been presented to Parlia-
ment. Ile had himself heard Lord John Russell declare that
he Would never give his consent to any measure for the aboli-
tion of Church-rates which trenched upon the resources of the
Church ; yet, in order to please, and to gain the support of the
Dissenting body, they had come forward with a measure of actual
spoliation. He called upon those present, as friends to the
Church and to the• Throne, to be united ; for united they must
be to return even one gentleman of Conservative opinions as
Member for the City of London. He did not know what lan-
guage would be held in the house opposite; the Members
there might call themselves the supporters of the Church and
the Queen, but most decidedly three out of the four Members
were not supporters of the Government ; their names were to be
found in the minority upon all divisions in which the questions
involved would prove destructive to the best institutions of
the country. Those destructive questions the Government
had opposed, but how long they might continue to so
it was impossible to say ; for if they found it necessary to adopt
extreme opinions in order to maintain their places, he did not
think they could resist._-..(Cheers,) He perfectly knew, how-
ever, that throughout the country a great it- terest was