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London, England, 1839-03-05 00:00:00

BANKRUPTS.

WILLIAM JOHN DELANCEY A II:VOLD, coal-mer-
chant, Lisso-grove, Middlesex, to surrender March 13, at
twelve, and April 16, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Green, Aldermanbury, official assignee: Dods and Linklater,
NorthUmberland-street, Strand.

WILLIAM SWEETING, linen-draper, Fore-street, Crip-
plegate, March 14 and April 16, at eleven, at the Court of
Bankruptcy, Basin hall-street. Alsager, Birchin-lane, official
assignee ; Fawcett, Jewin-street, Cripplegate.
WILLIAM WESTON WHEELER, ale and porter dealer,
Liverpool. March 16, and April 16, at one, at the Clarendon-
rooms, Liverpool. Peacock, Liverpool ; William Dean, Essex-
street, Strand.
JOSEPH MARSHALL and THOMAS COLLIER, Man-
chester, merchants, March 2.5, and April 16. at ten, at the
Commissioners'-rooms, Manchester. Makinson and Sanders,
Elm-court, Middle Temple ; Atkinson, Birch, and Saunders,
Manchester.

JOHN LUMLEY, flax-spinner, Knaresborough, March 9,
at one, and April 16. at eleven, at the Court-house, Leeds.
Powell and Son, Knaresborough ; Richardson, Leeds
FREDERICK HARVEY MAW, mustard manufacturer,
Morton, Lincoln, March 12 and April 16, at ten, at the George
Inn, Kingston-upon-Hull. Bell, Bedford-row, London ; J.
and J. H. Hill, Parliament-street, Hull.
JAMES BATT, hotel-keeper, late of Torquay, Devon,
March 25 and April 16, at twelve, at the London Inn, Exeter.
Clowes and Wedlake, King's Bench-walk, Temple, London ;
Laidman, Castle-street, Exeter.
THOMAS WATKINSON, Jun., and HENRY WAT-
SON, tea-dealers, Meredith-street,' Clerkenwell, March 13,
and April 16, at the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street.
Lackington, Ironmonger-lane, official assignee ; Saunders and
Co., Queen-street-place, Southwark-bridge.
RICHARD NICHOLAS JENKINS, butcher, New
Windsor, Berks, March 14, at one, and April 16 at twelve, at
the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street. Gibson, Basing-
hall-street, official assignee; Taylor and Collissen, Great
James-street, Bedford-ro

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Mescm 4.

LORD FORTESCUE'S EXPLANATION.

ONDONT TTIESDAY,

with that country to which those expressions related ?
My Lords, I ask the Noble and Learned Lord, 'as a
lawyer, whether he thinks it fair, without proof of an
offence—for the Noble and Learned Lord did not pro-
f. es to have heard the words referred to-a-
whether he thinks it fait id esiit4
to bass judr;me*'t an Call for. eXcaition without
giving the 110M(idAi .charged. the, opPortUnity of
:-itralaing in his, nun defence ?—( Hear ber.), ,4IY
Lords, ‘‘ I coineato.adtnielster the laws, and not to alter
them"-were the v:turas Of a 'di%!tinr.iished sLatesniall,
a near rel:lstiea, to the illustrious Duke I am happy to
See in his place opposite (Waington), because I
know that from that Noble Duke, at least,
I shall receive justice.—(Hear, hear.) " I come to ada
minister the laws and net tn alter. thrttt," Weide
used hy bead Weileal4; ill ilri4,:er to ati aderalss pre-
tehled to him on his arrival to take the govern-
ment in Ireland, when reference was made to opinions
he had expressed upon Catholic Emancipation—from
which it was assumed that his coming to take the Go-
vernment was in indication of ati intended tolitessieti
upon that question. I come to administer the laws,
and not to alter them," will be my answer to
any addresses—should I be honoured with any—re-
ferring- to opinions of mine open any kgiclatite theaa
sures in this, or In the other House of Parliament.—
( Hear, hear.) My Lords, allow me to say
that I have not ttiken up this view merely at
the exigency of the present moment, or the spur of the
present occasion—l have been all my life a strenuous
advocate for reform—l have during my political life
advocated considerable changes in many of the laws
in this country and in Ireland, and I am happy
to say that many of those measures for which
in my early days I wished, I have lived. to
see brought to a consummation ; but I defy any
man to prove that on any occasion i have
advised disobedience to existing laws, however repug-
nant they might be to my own feeling, and opinions ;
and I' am sure that with respect to Ireland, I can
confirm this statement, for with the opinions I enter-
tained as to the Church of Ireland—believing that it
ought to be reduced within limits more commensurate
with the demands of the Protestant population—with
these opinions, which I never shall shrink from declaring
—here or elsewhere—l beg leave to say that there is
no one of your Lordships—that there is no man
in this country, who has exerted himself more strenu-
ously to procure for the ministers of that Church the
payment of their just dues.—( Hear, hear.) My
Lords, I was in Ireland in the autumn of the
year which immediately preceded the passing of the
Coercion Bill—when all persons paying tithes were
publicly denounced as enemies to their country. At
that period I gave directions that the whole of the
tithes on the property with which I am connected
should be paid to the minister to whom they were due,
and I took care to make it known that I had done so ;
and the result of that was, that my life and pro-
perty were threatened by a placard _stuck up
upon the chapel—and such was the intimidation of that
time that no individual could be found to remove that
paper till 1 tole it down with my own hands.—( Hear,
hear.) My Lords, it is irksome always to speak of one's
self; and I owe an apology to your Lordships for men-
tioning this matter. I can assure you that 1 have done
so only for the purpose of showing that however dis-
posed I may be in my place in Parliament to advocate
certain changes in the law, there is no man more
strenuously determined to maintain existing laws.
Now, my Lords, with respect to the speech which
forms the subject of conversation on the present
occasion. On ' referring to the reports of that
speech, I must say both of them are rather meagre,
and are rather general outlines than anything
like correct or accurate reports of the words spoken
by me on that occasion ; and I can further state that
the words quoted by the Noble and Learned Lord
were those by far the most incorrectly reported, and
were the most unlike what I did say in that
debate. My Lords, I will not trouble your
Lordships with any part 'of the speech, except one
particular passage ; and the words which, to the best of
my recollection, I used, were these : " i3ut if
the struggle against the present tithe system were
still going on, notwithstanding the passing of this
Bill, the burden of that struggle will be trans-
ferred from the shoulders of the poor and ignorant
peasant, to those of the rich and powerful landlord,
whose shoulders would be much better able to hear it,
and who, I hope, will carry on the war." I regret
I used that word, because I am quite sensible that it
was liable to be interpreted in a very different sense
from that in which I uttered it. My Lords, it may be
supposed that this is an ex post filch) explanation
—that I attach a different sense to them now from
what I did at the time 1 used those words,
in consequence of the notice that has been taken of
them. My Lords, I trust it will be believed by those
who know me that I am incapable of such shuffling.—
(Hear, hear, from both sides of the House.) What I
• intended to convey by the expressions I used
was, that I hoped measures for the reduc-
tion of the Church Establishinent in Ireland
would be pressed, in the shape of petitions and re-
monstrances, addressed by the landlords through
their proper constitutional channels, upon this and
the other House of Parliament—that that mode
of warfare would be substituted that that
legitimate and constitutional warfare Would be
substituted for the resistance of physical force,
which had produced miseries and horrors in Ire-
land ; and that, coming, as it would do, through
those channels, it would receive due attention from
the Legislature of this country.—(Hear, hear.)
My Lords, that was the sense in which I used
that expression. lam aware that in the course of the
debate a d:fferent construction was put upon it,
and it had been my intention to have got up
at the time to explain it. My Lords, I spoke at
the tin.e to my Noble Friend, the Secretary
for Foreign Affairs, and • 1 asked him in what sense
he had understood me. He said, though others had put
a different construction on the words, he had understood
them in the way I have just stated ; and he added,
" I will, if you please, make that explanation
on your behalf." My Lords, I acquiesced in
that, feeling as I always do, and as I am afraid you will
have plainly perceived this evening—(Hear)—feeling, as
I always do, my own incompetency to make an address,
and I felt particularly reluctant after having once spoken
to press any further observations on the House.—
(Hear. hear.) My Lords, I feel that I am about to
undertake a situation encumbered with great diffi-
culties—difficulties, allow me to say, which have
not been diminished by the course taker, in this
House of Parliament, by the description which some
of your Lordships were in my absence pleased
to give of my political opinions, and by the anti-
cipations you were pleased to form of the cha-
racter of my Administration.— (Cheers.) My
Lords, I have, however, the satisfaction to know
that I have before my eves the example of my
predecessor. My Lords, I shall endeavour to carry
into the administration of the laws of that country
that strict and impartial justice which procured for my
Noble Friend (the Marquis of Normanby) from one of
eptNxeiGovernment,oaeryourinrbotl
dee exerted for
Friend.—(Cheers.)
rfri dearasndd pb_t
thes,
et
e(hncae prevention
prettynedi
rasew important
the
masb it rydeoaAnnd
punishment
nrsni opponent Lords,
sboiadmission
more
that
v g oof fot u hissni
yo
mtrleant Administration of my
carry
with me into the Government of that country the
same sympathy which has been shown by
my Noble Friend for the wants of the
people of Ireland—the same affection for their
open-hearted and manly character—the same
anxious desire i:o extend their comforts and
promotei theirof my
welfare
career,; andbe i
happyt
longo
indeedr be
shallitl be
at if
the close short,
can reap the same harvest of benediction from millions
of Irishmen, which marked the departure of my Noble
Friend from the shores of that country.—(Cheers.)
My Lords, I am sorry that on my first appearance
among your Lordships, I should have been called upon
to express sentiments at variance, I fear, with those of
many of your Lordships. I trust that in doing so, I
have not departed from the courtesy observed among
your Lordships, and which lam always xious to ob-
serve, whatever may be your Lordships' political opi-
nions. My Lords, I beg to tender my respectful thanks
to Noble Lords opposite, as well as to my friends around
rne, and to the whole House, for the patient and indul-
gent hearing they have been pleased to give me.—Loud
cheering.)

54 1839.

upon me in consequence of it, I say, in answer to tt:e
question put by the Noble Lord, that I should consider
it a decided disqualification for bolding that appoint-
ment.—(lle.tr, hear, hear.) .My Lords, the Noble
Lord charges me with acting unjustly towards
liitf.i; foe f fdravtri tTs question in his
abs6nee. Givg me cave; thy dr
Coniidefed thiS a question as bets'een the Noble Lord
thyrielf.-4 chekr,i.)o Th. charge thai I da'de was
It 'charge against 110 MaleSty'; UOveinnient ;, fit was a
charge dgaitist the Noble Viscount oppGsitL-6Cheetri.)
The Noble
.Viscount and the rest of her Majesty's
Government were present for the purpose of entering
upon the defence of the Noble Lord, and that, my
}lords; I Consider a sufficient jnstificAtion for the course
puittied.--(Cheers.) But the Noble Lord cgoin
4ay4 that i shoqld,have postponed my observations.
Yes, my Lords, I did ebTheider well whether I could
venture to postpone them. At thai 1. had reason
to believe the appointment had cot been acittafly
•
made.—( Hear, bear, bear.) I was desirous of
hiterVosing li.efote it was too late, and therefore it was
that in the first instance; and Upon the very first occa-
sion, I put the question to the Noble Viseenttt with re-
spect to the nature of this appointment.—( Hear, hear')
The Noble Lord says that• it was unjust to bring for-
ward a questidii bf this kind in his absence. I might
advert to a circumstatice n6I tbq dissimilar, viz., a
charge brought against a Noble Friend of mitie=alloble
Marquis—(Hear, hear)—not preferred in this House,
where the Noble Marquis would have had an opportu-
nity of meeting the charge, but preferred in the other
House of Parliament, and in which the Noble Lord op-
posite (Lord Fortescuc) was himself a distinguished per-
former.—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")
A NOBLE Loan—What appointment do you mean ?