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London, England, 1806-06-06 00:00:00

OUDE CHARGE.

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Mr, PAULL gave notice, that on the loth of June
he would move the consideration of the Oade

Charge.,
The SPEAKER observed, that it was his duty to
say that the isth of June had already been appointed
for that purpose ; .and though an Order might be
postponed, it could not, according to the practice of
the. House,,bc :'.7celerated.
Mr. PAtiLt. said, that the House had not been
brought to this dilemnia by him.
Mr, Fox requested the. Speaker to read the Ques-
tion again ; and, having. heard it, said that the thing
was impossible : an Order might be poStponed, but
not aceeleiated ; and- he did not know what the
Hon. Gentleman meant. -

,Sir ARTHUR WELLESLEY said, that as the Noble
Lord was not in the House who moved the con-
sideration of the Charge.` on the 18th, he would
propose that .the Honoorahle Gentleman should, in
the mean time,kcall his Witnesses;and examine them
at the Bar., •

Mr. Num, then moved, that the 18th be inserted
instead of the loth of June.

Mr: Fox said, that the I,Bth had already been
fixed upon ; but the Honourable .Gentleman might
move that his Witnesses should attend on the
Stb.

- Sir ARTHUR WELLESLEY observed, that the Noble
Lord who proposed' thel Bth, did it with a view to
have a decision. on. that day. For his part, he only
wished to have a decision this Session. The Hon.
Gentleman might call his evidence on the 10th, if
"consistent with the Orders of the House ; and- it-
might be considered on the 1-Bth. He hoped, at
all events, that the matter would not be delayed be 7
yotid the present Session. '
Mr. Fox 'observed, that whatever might be the
wishes of the Hon. General, they could not Super-
sede. the established rules of the House.. Evidence
might be laid on the Table, • but *oral evidence could
,only 'be taken when the -*subje& was under consi-
deration. The order then was to consider it earthei
and'farther as there should appear occasion. Though
the Hon.. ',Gentleman moved 'that his Witnesses
should be called on .the 18th, yet it_was dot to be
understood
.tbat they were.. therefore to be heard.
Heconcluded by declarincr, that-though the formS
Of the House could 'not be violated, yet that every
facility ought, to be given to the business that. the
time of. the House, .and the interests df substantial
justice could allOw, •

Mr. ,131.n.L.;. said that no one. had ever, in a similar
Aituation, proceeded so rapidly as he ha-d
done.
There should be no delay on, his part.

Mr. FRANCIS t ished to know whether the near-
ing of evidence was -eriu. ivalerit to taking a thing into
conideration If printed evidence was received be-
fore the period of-entering Upon the consideration
of a subject, why should nor oral evidence? If We
could get over this difficulty, the evidence might be
heard in the mewl time.

Mr. Fox replied, that by the forms of the House,,
Oral evidence could net be received, except when a
subje& was under consideration ; and, this was the
case, he apprehended, for these, among other rea-
sons; that proper limits might be set to the evidence;
and that the. Members might have it as fresh as pos-
sible in their recolleCtion. •

Mr. PAULI, then moved, that the following Gen-
tlemen he ordered to attend the Houge.on the' I
viz. Lord Teignmouth, General Sir.Alured Clarke,
General Sir J. Craig, Lieutenant-Colonel Edward
Baynes, Major-General Frederick St. John, William
Wright,• Accornptant to the East India Company,
COlonel Alexander Kidd, and Richard Strachey,
Esti:
Sir HENRY' STRACHEY said, that Mr.' Strachey
was under orders for and that it N,•ould

hard if he should be detained by the Order of the
House.
Mr. PauLL said, that this Gentleman had been
Private Secretary to the Governor during the trans-
actions at Furruckabad, and other places, and must,
of course, be well acquainted with them. But'he
would still, waive the order as to him, if it would
occasion him any serious inconvenience, it being
understood, however, that he was to attend if be
should not hake quitted the Country. Upon
_this,
Mr. Strachey was struck out of the Motion; which
was then agreed to.
Mr. PAULL then moved for a Return of the Num-
bers and Expence of the First Regiment of Euro-
pean Infantry, of the Company of Artillery and
Lascars, of the Bengal Native Cavalry and Infantry,
and other Regiments, between the years 1798 and
1799 ; together with an Account of the Sums ex-
pended for Bullocks for their supply for a certain
period, stating by whom provided, and to whom
paid.—Ordered.
Mr. FOSTER, on the Motion of Mr. MAY, post',
poned the second reading of the Linen Drawback
Bill till Monday.
Sir JONNEwPownnoved the Order of the Day
for going into a Committee to consider of a Motion
for leave to bring in a Bill to permit the free inter-
change of Corn between Great Britain and Ireland.
The House having resolved, itself into a Com-
mittee,

'Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that having upon a
former occasion stated the nature and object of the
proposition he intended to make, it would not be
necessary for him now to occupy the attention ofthe
House; he would, therefore, merely state, that the
obje& of the Bill was to del away the difficulties
which now prevented the free intercourse between
the two Countries with respe& to Grain. '
Mr. FOSTER said, the, objea•which the Right
Hon. Baronet had in view was certainly a very de;
sirable one; but he begged to ask One question, and
that was, how the Right Hone Baronet proposed to
obviate the difficulties that must arise from faxing
the price of Corn in the two Countries at ,whici, the
exportation was to commence
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, he did not see how
that question applied on this occasiop. The price
at which it was permitted.to export Corn .to Foreign
Countries was fixed and limited by law ; hot be-
tween Great Britain -and Ireland he meant by this
proposition to render the- intercourse in train per-
featly free and-open, without any restriction or limit-
ation, in the same manner as it was bet Ween any
two Ports in England. That being the case; it would
note be necessary to fix any price at v rich eXport-
ation might take place.

Mr. FOSTER said, the Right Hon. Baronet did
not distinctly understand his question—he would
therefore- explain himself more fully. When this
proposed Plan was established there would be no
duty, no bounty on the Corn Trade-between- Great
Britain and Ireland. But wiih respell to foreign
countries, when Corn was above a certain price, it
was not allowed to be. exported. The average price
at which Corn was allowed to be exported was lower
in Ireland than it' was in Great Britain, consequently
an exportation. of Corn from Ireland to foreign coun-
tries might be allowed when it would be illegal from
England. If, therefore, an English Merchant
wished to export Corn to a foreign country, but
that the price was too high to export it from Eng-
land, he had only to send it to Ireland, which he
Might do without paying any duty; and then he
might export,it to any forei,,m country he pleased.
With 'respeet to Imports, the' arg-ument equally ap-
plied, the Ports. in one. Country might be shut and
open in the other. The price of Corn. in England
• was regulated upon the average of twelve Distrids ;
in Ire?and ,the average was taken upon the whole
Kingdom. In Scotland he- believed the price was
regulated by that of England. These different modes
of ascertaining the average price would, for the
. reasons he had given, lead to considerable dialed-.
ties, 'unless some remedy were adopted. Perhaps
if a free intercourse was established, the best way
would be to take one common average for every
part of the United Kingdoms.
Mr. WESTERN approved very much of the pro-.
fosition made .by the Right Hon. Baronet ; it was
ounded upon the most established principles of
Commerce ; •but as he foresaw that difficulties might
arise,- he thought it would be better that the mea-
sure should be postponed some time, - in order that
it might be more fully digested. He wished that
the measure should operate as advantageously as pos-
sible for the whole Empire, though it certainly would
be a considerable boon to Ireland.

Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, he did not mean
to deny that it would operate as a boon to Ireland;
but he contended that it would be prodnftive of
great benefits to both Countrie3. The exportation
of Barley from Great 'Britain to Ireland in the year
1805 was no less than 180,000' barrels ; so that
Great Britain would also be benefited by-this mea--;
sure. But when Great 13ritain gave this- advantage
to Ireland, it shOuld be recollected that she gave an
advantage to the best customer she had l'orqler
ma-
nufaelures.

'Mr. FOSTER explained.

Lord A. HAMIL-TON spoke in a very low tone of
voice,,we believe, in favour of the measure.

The Resolution was then agreed to, and the
House being resumed,
Mr. HO/MOUSE, the Chairman of the Committee,
moved for leave to bring in the Bill ; which ..i.vas
granted..