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London, England, 1806-07-15 00:00:00

'that Regular tro43, who 'Were liable to he•calle-%
-at a moment's notice; to serve their Country abroad;. '
in unWholesonie climates, and exposed to d
were not in a 'situation vei'y diffeent from thelki-
litia, who could not be ordered out,-of the Coon-
try ; if then their situation was ,different, it would.
not be unreasonable if there should be some differ-
once in their allowances,
_ln
.point of fa4e
_too, .a
-difference had always existed. The Officers of the.
Regular Army were entitled to half-pay;- when
Militia Officers were not. The Field Officers of the,
Militia, however, made no Complaint. It was not
so much a difference between •the Regulars-, and •
as between One-
.part of the Army and
another. As to the Hon., Gentleman (Mr. Yorke);
lie 'must Say, that -With whatever gravity, of mariners,
'or tone of authority; the chase to lecture him upon
xihat vas. his duty as a Minister and a: Member of
Parliament, the whole weight and importance of his
leadies depended upon the' strengtliof thearo-uments'
he adduced, 'and' if his argument were altogether
feeble,it was in vain, for him' to take the tone or:
Manner of authority. The mode which the Hon..
Gendernan had- adopted might serve as an' useful.
example, not to. folloW; but to avoid. • The thing,.
however, which seemed' most to have offended .the
Hob: Gentleman, was, that he Seemed io' think'
that he (Mr. -Windham) , had not, received his
arguments with all that attention, deference, and
respect' which he, 'no doubt, thought Was due to,
them: It was impossible for' Ministers, or any
other 'men, tO--direCt their, whole attention, in the
course .a long debate, to' every Word that came
from those Gentlemen on the .opposite benches.
Sometimes the very busineSs of debate itself would
oblige them to:converse a little with -those who 'sat
near them. He believed that it wasreally some
cfnervation arising out of, the debate which might
have caused for a Moment 'that apparent inattention
of which* the Hon. Gentleman . (Mr. Yorke) so-
loudly complained.. •
Mr-1'0121;E, in explanation, said he 'was ready
to apologize to the HOkl3e, if he had made use of
any uriparliamentary expression : he certainly- had,
felt a considerable indignation at a husifiess of such;
importance being brought forward so late in the Ses--
siOn. This indignation he meant to express with.
the freedom which•heeame a Menther of Parlia--
rhent, and he hoped he • had not transgreissed the
proper boubds. eHe had eke conceived that he saw
a marked , inattention from the Honourable
Secretary, With which he confessed that he felt him-
self very rnuch hurt. Since the Right .I;jonourable
Secretary had, hwalever, asclaiteed what he con-
ceived to have been a marked inattention, he was
ready to apologize to the House jibe had been guilty
of any. irregolarity: •
Mr. P.ERCIVAL thought the arguments of his
Right Hon. Friend had been mis-stated. The great
objedion.- to the'Bill which was now-presented to
the HOUse was, that it was.upona subject of so much
importance that it was not fair to bring it farward
at-so late-a -period of the Session, when there could
be but a very thin attendance of Members. It ap-
peared to him .that it would be very wrong in point
of policy that
.such, a measure should be brought
forward at a time that: the-'Militia were. in*,arms
and embodied. • It was then no time'to disgn.st, men
when we lohked to ethem for services. 1-1' might
be tolcl,.al he was the other night about the_Voln7
teer Drill Serjeants, that 'they might resign.' He
doubted, however,'even whether these who asserted
thatproposition coold venture to say, that ;the Mi-
liiia might resign. ,If then it was allowed that they
could not resign, itnd that the terms, under which
they entered were, that they should be on the same
foo:ing with the Army, it would he a •violation of
faith with them .to place them now upon a worse
condition than the Army. Certainly no little
saving 'in point of economy could compensate
for the impolicy of disgusting such a Body 'as the
Militia, at a time when their services
were so nt:-
cessa
Mr..
ry GILES considered that all the obje•EtionS
which were made to, eVery measure on account of
thelateneis of the Session, amounted only to this
question—Why did not the present Ministers- bring
forward.' at once all -the measures which, they
meant to introduce in the,conrse of the Session ?
As to the breach of public faith that WM:so:much
spoken of, he begged leave to remind Gentlemen;
that- the IVlilitig was not a voluntary, but a com-
pulsory service ; and that if no particular faith was
pledged to. the balloted men, certainly their substi-
tutes stood in no' better situation than they did. Of
a man that voluntarily enlisted in •the Regular
Artriy, it would be right 'to consider strictly the
terms under which' he 'entered ; but the Militia-
.man, whether he is the balloted mail or the substi.e
tute, enters into the service from the - compulsion
of the -Law, and cab •Ciairn no other terms but what
the Legislature chases ;to give.
• Lord Da BeaunthaE 'rose, and spoke on many
topics :- while he
.was discussing the Vote of ',banks
proposed on a for ner night to the Volunteers,
Colonel ORAUFURD rose to speak to order, lie
felt unwilling to interrupt the Noble Lord ;. but still,
at such an advauted period of the Sessioh,. and
at so late an hour at night, he thought the House
ought, not to listen to arguments which, although
they might have been very proper on Conner de-
bates, had nothing. to do with the question then
before- the House. ,• •
Tile-SPEAKER decideit-that the Noble Lord was
not in order. . _ _ , _
Lord DR BLAcaniinE, then said, that as he was not,
made of brass he Most bow to .the authority of the
Chair. Atter a 'yariety ofoliseevations, he concluded
by opposing the Bill. . •
Mr. O'HutB was for :the,Bill. He vas sure
that both the Field Officers- of the hliiitia and of the
Voltuiteers'would cheerfully yield to any deduotioes
that could tend to give the Country a greater dis-
posable force at the present- moment.
_ Sir WM...LEMON; considered-that it might be
the cause of much
~dis Content, that when ;he-Offi-
cers, of :"the Regulars. and itililitia ,messed together,
the one would say, " We are superior tnyou-,--our
pay iS'hi‘e,her.!!' • • • • -
k;.4L/SQINIa-greed -in the sentiments of the
Hon. Baionet who spoke last; 2nd thought' that it
*mild :'be a s.ulejeEt of heart-iurniog,
,and might
create, if not discord, 4least: a considerable degree
aldissatistietion.
Colonel 61/L46FUND could not at all agree with
the opioijytt (1' the Hon. Baronet, . S.) far frobl the
Regular Officers being entitled to claim any supe-
iiority, on accoutlt'U# 4j4inaion, he thought the su-