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,ußrii 4P COMMON COUN CIL.

kYesterday a Con rt was held for the despatch of business of th e ordinary
ind; but a report which was brought up by Mr. R. L. Jones, without
form of a notio e; in consequence of the importance and urgency of
the ease, excited a , great deal of interest.
Alderman VENk: ILES presided as locum tenens for the Lc.rd Mayor;
Who, we are sorry ti say, was prevented from taking the chair by illness.
Deputy FINNIC p resented a petition from the ownerrof ext ensive pre-
niises in Lower TI names-street, against the project of extunding the
131ackwall Railway as far as London-street, Fenchurch-str cet. The
Petition was ordered to lie on the table.
THE LORDS 01r THE TREASURY AND THE COILPOIt A-
TION OF LONDON.
lir. R. L. Jones said that it was with great regret he rose to present
treport to the Cour t upon the subject of the re-building of the Royal
Exchange, It nigh tbe objected that there was no notice on the paper
I.esPecting the questi s, but he trusted that the importance of it would
?e •
considered an ado pate excuse for moving that the standing order as
to the necessity of obi ne tying the form should be dispensed with.
It The
Court then un, inimously agreed that the report shoteld'be read.
Was as follows :
" To the Right Hone urable the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and. Commons
of the City ot London, in Common Council assembled.
ss We, whose names are hereunto subscribed, of your Committee in
iellation to the Royal I lxchange and Gresham Trusts, to wlaom on the
14 day of January in *tent, it was referred to take such steps as we
deemold
s.,e. ti er the Corporation, 'and such other Counsel as we should deem ad-
Tench for irnandamu's Co enforce the execution of the Act of F arlia-
j"nt for improving the site Oahe Royal Exchange and tile avenues ad-
:,lTna thereto, and Use r advised, smniediately to malse suet, application
Proceed therein might be necessary. do certify that we
b,t'ed a copy of the foregeisoing resolution of this Honqprable Court to
bardsls,,?a to the Loral:I Cskinnissioners of her Majesty's Treasury,
"n wing letter from the'Remembrancens
" Guildhall, Jan. IS, 1E339.
Co Sir—I am directed' 'by the Royal Exchange Committee of the
I?rPecnation of London to' transmit to you, foe the information of the
issioners of 'Yese:ti he r Majesty's Treasirrenclosed Copy of a
niunanimously a; treed to at a Court of Common Council held
ate n
rsnde,..,ile Committee deeply regret that any circumstances should have
it necessary for the Court of Common Council 'to have come
tos"isch a resolution, and tines, trust that elseir Lordships will be pleased
sidgalrY their approbation of the plan of Vie site of the Royal Exchange
leg the
itnliresements in the neighbou xhood, which will render any
ores, o"tscitssion of the powers of their , Lordships and the rights cif the
„ "aai Trustees unnecessary.
I -are the honour to be, Sir, your: most cbcdient servant,
" EI)WARD TYRREL L,
•• 11;1 T. Baring,E '
sq. " `City Remembrancer.'
reeett e then directed a case to be s iibmitted to Mr. Recorder, Sir W. .
irSets' 111-. Cinnraon Sergeant, am I Mr. It. V. Richards, to advise
eiss,‘"er, tinder the provisions of an before-mentioned Act ot Parlia-
See
o'f.the Lords of the Treasury we, e entitled to require the Corpor.a-
heed, L°ndon to submit for their I ,ordships' approval the plan of toe
ue
the, ts 4. intended to be erected for the new Royal Exchanges or who.
pats. Lordships powers were . not limited to the approval of the
ase Ina'd estimates for the enlarge Bent and improvement of the site,
eske,atioa spacious and conveuiet it streets around or adjoining the
decide and Whether their Lordships . could be required by mandamus to
ha e b °Pen the plans and estimates 'tor the site and approaches which
CessZ,e° Submitted to their Lea slstips, upon which queries all the
, agreed to the following op it lioll
bfwer ',:re are of opinion the Lois Is of tine freasury are pot entitled,
tones*" terms of the Act of Parr ,ament, to require the Corporation of
ins f;:n to submit for their approval the plan of the intended new build-
' ;Thr the Royal Exchange. Tt rely Lordships' functions are limited to
stsarst(ival of th• plan for the . enlargement and improvement of the
ests ," osar the streets. round o r adjoining.the same, and also of the
Ca'N
l of the premises to be pt archased.
hisel We are further of opinion their Lordships may be required by
Neerto
them
to decide upon pi; in and estimates which have been sub_at
but we do not r ecommend any application to the Court
iel47-4t, as the Lords of th e'Ereasury will no-doubt satisfy them-
Its a: °f, the extent of the powi srs vested in them by the Act, and, if
vont,: right in our oPinion on *that point, it is not likely that they will
to require from , the tit y the plan of the new building.
" ' e-HA. RLES E. LAW, Recorder.
" W. NV. FOLLETT. --
" ' JOHN MIREHOUSE, Common-Sergeant.
" ROBT,IIT VAUGHAN , RICHARDS.

it 19, 11339.'
aid
ive hat on the 21st of Jamul' y your Committee caused a copy the
coti,,,`,!Pinion to be transmittt sd to the Lords of the, Treasury, ac-
loit,4:' d by a letter from the Itemembraiiccr, a coily of which is sub-

. " Remembraucer's Office, Guildhall, Jan. 2], 1839.
ta
tarperat.,, am directed by the Royal Exchange Committee of the
Comm of London to state to you, fot the information of the Lords
re4,41,?5,9ners of her Majesty's" Tre esury, that since the copy of the
}ilia" of the Court of Common Council Of the 17111 inst. was trans-
the
sti,to
their Lordships, the Con imittee directed the first Report of
113,,,a'cet Committee of the I-louse of Commons on Metropolitan. Im:
lloyaq''tg, the Act of Parlisini, nt ' For improving the site of the
there,
,Ichange in the city of London, and the avenues adjoining
and ih°4,4,41 the whole of the co :respondence between their Lordships
,-ohnnittee to be laid bef ,re counsel, who all agreed in the opi-
-4,',;,a,c°11 of which is enclosed for the information of their Lordships.
Connidttee feeling the i greatest anxiety that no further delay
h,,," take place in proceeding v nth this important public improvement,
i'.o directed. me most respectt .'ully to request that, in the event of the
,aw officers of the Crown g ing in opinion with the counsel for the
f.'„(4P°ration of London, their' 'Lordships will be pleased to signify their
—Neat to the plan submitted 1 br their approval.
"4
I have the honour to be, Sir, your most obedient servant,
".' E. TYRRELL, City Rcinembraucer.

" P. T. Bating, Est.""
That on the 28th of Jan: hary the rtemembraTicer 'received the fut..
°Wing Communication from the Treasury :

" Treasury.ch.ambers, Jan. 28, 1839.
Sir—l am commandeer by the Lords Commissioners of her Majes-
It's Tri asury to acknowledge the receipt of your letters dated respec. 1
tit i.ly rte 13th and 21st stant, the forme r enclosing a copy of a resolu. I
lie" passed at the Cort. of Common Cceincil on the 17th instant, and
the ;;ittcr transmitting' a copy of the opi /lion of Counsel upon the ques-
tion sobrnitted to them, as to the title '..f this Board to require the Cor.
Porta ion of London to 'submit for the',' Lordships' approval the plan of
the building intended to be erected nor the new Royal Exchange, and I
'To to state to you, fOr the informa'tion of the Royal Exchange Commit.
"e of the Corporation of London, the view which their Lordships have
tak,eo of this subject.
Whilst it is unquestionably open to the Royal Exchange Committee
such steps as they may t hink fit on the subject of the plans and
with brought tinder the consideration of my Lords, it no less rests
men' Ilcard to determine, subject. to their responsibility to Parlia-
eloq,,hOw their own functions are to be- performed, and how the
Lei;,,ia4aliosed upon them. by the . House of Commons and the
Corn,no lure are best to be, fulfilled. Upon the resolution of the
L, Council, and th-e legal opinion inclosed in your said letters,
'ds forbear from ma Xing any comment beyond the statement
Lordships do not; consider these documents to be authorities
t'sc release them front their public duty, or which free them from
Ilot,:,,cer.tsitY of confermir :g strictly to the wishes and intentions of the
Partin °L,Coromons. My Lords do not feel themselves justified in de-
the 3
still now the resolutiot I already communicated to you, and to which
the adhere.
l 'he Bill for re-building the Royal Exchange was introduced on
ko4',uth°rilY of a report; of a Select Committee of the House of Corn.
stand: and received the Support of the Government upon their under-
istt t that the plans -and estimates of the whole work should be
tinesub-
:,te approval and sanction of the Board of Treasury, the execu-
o, works being confided to Cie City Authorities,
litios It was upon this principle that the Bill was supported in both
.routes of Parliament, and that the consent and support of the Govern-
havt, i!las given. My Lords were not are that any objection could
Ipa,ttn "een felt to this course till several m waonths had elapsed after the
tioo ,-.! of the Bill, nor had they previously received any communica-
not
illntlatever on the subject. For tills delay, consequently, they were
been any degree responsible, and whatever inconvenience has
i 8 Produced therehy, either to individuals or to the public,
to :'°t attributable 'to their Lordships. When called upon
cotiitlnti!!ion the plans and estimates, my Lords felt that they
trtizt„,,u,c adequately discharge the functions with which they were in-
Itith;''.°Y the Legislature, or fulfil the expectations of the Committee,
the„,"`t more information than was laid before them. Adopting, for
lirgit'eite of argument, the sv.pposition that the approval of my Lords is
than Par bY the words of the Act of Parliament to the ground plan and
che,,.mehes, and t 0 he estimates of the land and premises to be put.
no,ne", ti Must be obvious that no satisfactory opinion could be pro-
trieh,i,sed ill respect to the :site and approaches-without knowing the di-
th,rei'onB and 'height of the new building proposed to be erected, and
do no t 1-e, even before this hypothesis, which is one in which my Lords
(lecid e. "cur, the plans of the building are essential to enable them to
e to respect to the approaches.
of the aPPears to their Lordships that it is an entire misapprehension
Prod f''ets of the east', to suppose that because it is intended that the
er ce of the coal duty- is to be appli•ed to the site only, the building to
wieede.red from other funds, that tterefore no public control can be re-
.. , ;.,° respect to the latter par'. of the work.
atter he Committee, the lireJse of Commons, and the Government,
a tax ouch consideration, v.•e*.e induced, though reluctantly, to continue
cow,.article of the fir.st necessity to the extent of 150,000/. The
414,111eration which woule. justify the continuation of this burden, pay-
l'Ach:t only by the clas sea more particularly interested in the Royal
to, dint'lr.o, but by all the inhabitants in the more extended mettopoli-
6,
ell! let, was that a great improvement in the heart of the City should
eeted ; that Coll renient streets and approaches should be opened,
• a•
l building shout d be erected adequate to the purposes of trade and
• °f the presf.ait times. It appears to my Lords that the security
raj, e Part of th,, public for the fulfilment of these objects was contem-
v, by the C ommittee and by Parliament to be the approval and sane-
:24'4 the Roard of Treasury of all the plans and estimates. Responsible
slsd'al'Yl4n.e-ts are" 18 Parliament, their sanction seems to have been con.
bre-,,r„c.4 the best security these works should be well carried on, and
de,„:".,ht to a satisfactory termination. Without some controul of this
cription, the public would have no assurance but that a prefe-
-1!
nee tnight have been' given to plans inadequate in themselves, or for
In which a discretionary rower Is vetted in their Lordships, as trustees
toorwtairletirb. lie., they deenli it to' be their duty to act in perfect good faith
• Parliament, and as the real question appeared to turn upon the
intentions of Parliament and of the Select Commitee ill respect to the
Ste,
•thous assigned to the Treasury, my Lords have only to express their
leterraination to submit the whole of the papers to the House of Cont..
Along, and to abide by the decision which may then be pronounced.
"' They have felt this course to be that which was respectful and de-
,,"..r°",- They felt also that Parliament which had provided the funds,
;Ithout which the rebuilding of the Royal Exchange could not havebeen
aetti,silictclilY Undertaken, had a just right to decide upon the conditions,
I'LiTieet to which the work was to proceed. The Royal Exchange Corn-
bLttee,have, however, declined this mode of proceeding, rather than
;''" the opinion of the House of Commons. My Lords cannot
thatl this course is very well calculated to prevent further
having
rni' a desire that their duties and those of the Royal Exchange Corn.
'tee and Gresham trusts should have been performed in friendly co.
oPeration.
'"rheir Lordships see the strongest reasons to justify the course
ut'eb they have themselves adopted; and, in order to bring the case
Uk
-;er the early consideration of Parliament, they have directed that
,
it,°'''es of all the papers and minutes relating to the question be forthwith
'fl'ared to be laid before the House of Commons at the commencement
e
211 , .
„arit,e enAting Session of Parliament. I am, Sir, your obedient see.
" F. BARING.'
co;;T se rhat on the 29th of January, a general con ference was held ith
to , who, after full consideration of all the circumstances, agrweed
the following opinion :-
13too late in the Term to get the opinion of the Court of Queen's
ett on the legal construction of the Act of Parliament ; and, under
' the circumstances, we should think it more advisable not to take any
l
's4 proceeding; against the Lords of the Tt easury until next Term.
• " CHARLES E. LAW, Recorder.
" W. W. FOLLETT.
" J. MIREHOUSE, Common Sergeant.
" ROBERT VAUGHAN RICHARDS.
'b `-29th January, 1839.'
That upon considering the communication from the Treasury of
„_° '2Bth instant, it appears to your Committee that their Lordships do
"'t Consider themselves at all bound by the legal construction of the
Act f P
arhament, but intend to rely Open an opinion of the House of
-01tittions upon 4 breach on the part of the, Corporation of London of a

s.upposed understanding that the plans and estimates for the building
of the new Royal Exchange should be subj•:et to the approval of the
Lords of the Treasury, but which understrAnding your Committee most
confidently state never existed, nor do the proceedings in Parliament
justify any such construction, and wl-zich was never heard of until an
opinion of the Chancellor of the Exrdhequer upon the points was com-
municated to your Committee in October last, and had such opinion
ever been raised or hinted at in Parliament it would never have
been assented to either by the Gresham trustees or the Cor-
poration of London; but your Como:Mice cannot imagine
that Parliament could be. induced so far to interfere:: with
the rights of trust property as to compel the trustees of
the Gresham estates to rebuild the Royal Eichange out of their trust
finds according to such plans and estimates only as might be approved
by the Lords of the Treasury, the Trustees of the Gresham estates
having pledged themselves to expend a sum of 160,000/. in the erection
of a building suitable in all respects to the wants of the mercantile inte-
rests avid the improved state of the city of London ; notwithstanding the
very large debt due from the trust funds both to the Mercers' Company
and the Corporation of London; and as a decision upon an application
for a mandamus could not, in the opinion of the Counsel, be obtained
in the present Term, we have deemed it expedient, in conformity with
such opinion of Counsel, to defer making an application to the Court of
Queen's Bench until next Terra, all which we submit to the judgment of
this Honourable Court, this 30th day of Jan. 1839.
" R. OBBARD. " J. LAINSON
sc W. CROWCHER.` "T. CORNET.
" W. STEVENS. " H. J. ELMES.
"W. RICHARDSON. "E. HICKSON.
"J. DRINKALD. ".T. MITCHELL
" R. TAYLOR. "J. EVANS.
"E. EYTON. "J. PARKER."
"R. L. JONES.
The Clerk of the Court was, while reading the letter of Mr. Baring,
explanatory of the view the Lords of the Treasury took of the question,
frequently interrupted by laughter.
Mr. R. L. JONES, in a long and forcible speech, moved that the re-
port should be printed, and sent to every member of the Court.
The motion having been seconded by Mr. OBBARD, a discussion, in
which Mr. Lawrence, Mr• R. Taylor, Mr. Baylis, Mr. Dix, and Mr.
Hoole took part, ensued, and Mr. Jones's motion was unanimously
agreed to.
Mr. ASRUSST rose to submit a proposition, his reason for moving
which was, that the loiter of the Lords of the Treasury gave anything
but a fair statement .of the whole case.—(Cheers.) He then, moved
" That the Remerobrancer do, under the guidance of the Committee,
at:siver the lettet of the Lords of the Treasury of the 28th instant,
in such manner as that the cprrespondenes may state tile case of
each party as shown by themselves; that the Committee do take
such steps as they may think mo'.: tifectual for informing the mer-
chants of London of the calls% bf the delay in re-erecting the Royal
Exchange."
The: motion was unanimously agreed to. —Adjourned.

G-REAT ANTI-CORN-LAW MEETING

AT STOCKPORT.

(From the Itisrth Cheshire Reformer.)

Stockport has at length spoken out in right good earnest on the all_
engrossing topic of the Corn-laws. A number of the spirited inhabi-
tants of the borough, constrained by the facts which hare recently been
dragged before the public by the Manchester Chamber of Commerce, ori-
ginated a requisition to Ralph Pendlcbury, Esq., the Mayor, requesting
his Worship to convene a meeting of the inhabitants cf the borough, for
the purpose of taking their opinion as to the propriety of petitioning
Parliament to repeal the obnoxious Corn-laws.
On Thursday the meeting took place. The Court-house was speedily
filled by a dense crowd. We were exceedingly gratified to see so many
working 'men present. At twelve the Mayor took the Chair. Upon
the bench we observed Henry Marsland, Esq., M.P., Apelles Howard,
Esq.. P. E. Marsland, Esq., John Slack, Esq., Alderman Charles Baker,
A'dcrman Boothroyd, Mr. Henry Coppock, Town-clerk, Messrs. Charles
Carr; Alfred Orrell, Charles Hudson, Samuel Shawcross, William Nel.
strop, Labrey Hodgson, Daniel Oldham, Edward Hollins, H Sefton, &c.
The CfIAIRMAN, in opening the business of the meeting, said that they
had been called together in consequence of a requisition which had been
l:resented to him, signed by about four hundred respectable individuals,
and be had felt it his duty to cal; the meeting. Having read the terms
of the requisition, his Worship continued—They had been called to-
gether free the purpose of taking into consideration the propriety. of pe-
tition:mg Parliament to remove the Obnoxious Corn-laws, and for the
Pr.rpose of drawing up the petition which was to be the petition of the
town. It was intended that the Corporation should have a petition of
its own to be sealed with the Common Seal of the Corporation. This
meeting, it was to be remembered, was not a political meeting—(Hear)—
the object of the parties assembled being to have a big loaf instead of a
little one.—(Cheers.) He recommended that the petitions of the
people should be sent up in such numbers that the Members of the
House of Ctimnsons and Lords would have to scramble over them in or-
der to get to their seats. The Chairman then adverted to the present
practice of foreigners to purchase warps in this country and then sending
them abroad, there to he minufoctured into goods of various kinds.
He also alluded to the article of ,t`;pincpea" which were sent abroad in
hundreds and thousands quite ready for the shuttle of the weaver. As a
proof of the quick method of transit far goods adopted by foreigners, his
Woiship mentioned an instance of a foreigner purchasing some warps
and sending them abroad, and in 94 days afterwards he received a corn-
rnonication in 'Manchester stating that tile material had been worked up
and' he goods disposed of. This'was all'eWing to the Cotn.laws, and if
these laws were not done away ss-iththey would have calicoes printed
nc in Germany and sent to Mahes-icr. Hence it was necessary that they
should all put their shoulderi ttit do their best to remove
these laws.

Mr. Neerrams rose to move the first resolution. This country is a
great manufacturing country, end in my opinion is destined to be the
great depot of the manufactured goads for all the nations of the world.
As a proof of the injury that the Corn-laws were inflicting upon the
country, Mr. Nelstrop here adverted to the fact that they broke the great
link of social compact between nations, viz., the interchange of surplus
commodities with each ether, and he asked otiether the commerce of
the country ought to be sacrificed for the sake of a few aristocratic
landlords.—(Cheers.) During the years from 1632 to 1836, we had ex,
ceedingly fine summers, and as a matter of course exceedingly good
harvests—good produce—and in consequence of this we were able to
supply our own people sufficiently with food at a very cheap rate—in-
deed during that time we had the most abundant harvests ever wit..
tiez:sed, but,however, it was pretty clearly ascertained, long before the last
harvest, that corn was very scarce in England, and this too in the face
of the very good harvests, and absolute scarcity was apparent; and had
it not been for the liberation of a million and a half of quarters of fo.
reign grain, which had been in bond, what sort of a predicament should
we have been in ? Mr. Nelstrop concluded by moving the resolution.
P. E. MARSLAND, Esq., seconded the resolution.
Mr. JAMES _MITCHELL, an operative, said he should wish to have
it shown to the people the impossibility of having the Corn-laws re-
pealed with the present constitution of the Houses of Commons and
Lords. It appeared to him that with the present constitution of the
Houses of Lords and Commons it was impossible to obtain the repeal
of the Corn.laws, especially when he found that four.filths of the
number of those Houses consisted principally of landowners. He was
not quite so much surprised at the attempt to repeal the Corn-lows,
as he was surprised at the manner in which the affair had been gone
about. It had been said that the people—the working classes, had
been ignorant of their. rights. He dared say there were some gentle.
men on that bench who knew well the transactions of Petcrloo. He dared
say that when the 150,000 people met at Peterloo, the gentlemen pre.
sent knew that they met for the purpose of repealing the Corn.law,
and it might be that there were some gentlemen in that room who
had had a hand in sabreing and murdering the people at Peterloo,
and for what? Why for the object for which the higher classes
were now coming out. It was not iu his (Mr. Mitchell's) opinion
so much the repeal of the Corn. laws, for which the higher and middle
classes were coming forward. They knew years since, that the trade and
commerce were fast leaving the country. It was not until the working
classes had got into the discussion of their five principles of Radical
Reform that the higher classes " came out," and endeavoured to create
a split amongst the working classes with respect to the principles
they were then going for. Some of the gentlemen who had spoken
declared the Corn-laws to be an evil. He (Mr. M.) declared the Corn_
laws to he an evil—that they were unjust laws—and that those who
made them ought to suffer by them or live in a workhouse.—
(Loud cheers.) But the other night he-heard Mr. Paulton lecturing
on that' subject, and if he we-e not mistaken, that gentleman
said that the Gorn-laws were made at the point of the sword and
bayonet; and soldiers surrounded the House of Commons. The
Members of the House of Commons allowed this law to be made at the
point of the sword and bayonet, and the same individuals or their rela-
tives havenow possession of the reins of Government. They were a
majority of the House of Commons. The landowners received an enor.
mous sum every year ; and what would the Repeal of the Corn.laws do
for them ? Why a man who received one hnndred thousand pounds
per annum from land would be seduced to the extent of about one-half
his income, and it was right that he should be reduced. So long as four_
fifths of the Members of the House of Commons were landowners, there
was no possibility of obtaining the Repeal. I will not move an amend-
ment, because I am favourable to the Repeal, but I believe thet, with
the present House of Commons and the present Suffrage, it is impossi-
ble to get the Corn-laws repealed.
Mr. SerroN denied that the present agitation of the Corn-law ques-
tion had been got up for the purpose of creating a split amongst the
Radicals.

Mr. HAM ER denied that the meeting at Peterloo was a meeting for
the purpose of petitioning for a repeal of the Corn-laws. It was for
Universal Suffrage, Annual Parliaments, and Vote by Ballot, as would
I a well remembered by those who saw the Peterloo flag at Kcrsal.mdor.
There was a sort of men who wished to create a difference between the
middle and working classes; but they were not the real friends of the
working classes. He advised them if they could get an inch of liberty
to take it and stick to it. They could go to Parliament with Universal
Suftlage, and he (Mr. Hamer) would join them in their petition; but
at the same time he said, " Let us have cheap bread."—(Cheers.)
Mr. LEAH, Secretary to the Working Men's Association, came for.:
ward, and said, I do not believe that there is a 'man here of the Radical
Association, who is against the repeal of the Corn-laws; but when we
have done our duty to these men—when we have put them into the
Ccuncil—and put them in opposition to the Tory party, and they .told
us when we put them in that they would do us all the good they pos-
sibly could, and now when we go to them they treat us with contempt.
Give the people the Suffrage, and• then they would represent the
mercial interest. He would more as an amendment, that in addition to
petitioning for the repeal of the Corn laws, they should petition for the
repeal of any other law that was injuring the working classes, including
in it a resolution for the Extension of the Suffrage to the utmost extent.
Mr. HUDSON submitted that the amendment did not apply to the re-
s ilution before the meeting, but more properly applied to a succeeding
resolution.

Mr. Geoutez WOOD supported the resolution. He observed that
many persons, urged on by their extreme distress, were anxious for
the repeal of the Corn-laws, whilst many others were indifferent on the
sieject. He alluded more particularly to that large influential body,
the Chartists. He hoped he would not be misunderstood. He main.
ta!ued that every man of sane mind, and untainted with crime, had an
unquestionable right to a voice in making the laws by which he was
governed ; but when he saw large bodies of Englishmen, in public
meeting assembled, declare their resolution not to interfere with the
repeal of the Corn•laws, he could not help expressing his regret. Al.
lowing to the Chartists every possible success in getting the Charter, it
would take a considerable length of time to remove the Corn laws ;
and this would be a source of misery to millions. It had been said that
there was a great improbability of getting the repeal of the Corn-laws from
the present Parliament, but he contended that there was quite as great a
chance of getting that as there was of getting the Reform Bill from the
boroughmongering Parliament. There appeared to be a determination,
on the part of the Chartists, to throw every obstable In the way of this
question.—(Cries of " No.") They had said it was a middle class ques-
tion ; and the fact was, that by their conduct they shewed themselves to
be greater supporters of the Corn-laws than the other class. Other peo.
pie said it was a Government question. If the Government set aboet it
in right good earnest, ti:e law would be removed, and it would be a set
off for all the sins they had ever committed.—(Loud cheers.) On the
Continent they were able to purchase the necessaries of life 40 per cent.
lower than in England, and this was all owing to the circumstance, that
the people of England had been taxed by a parcel of rapacious vampires.
How could the British manufacturer stand against such fearful odds..
He considered a tax on the blessings of life to be an insult upon the pro-
v.dence of God.—(Cheers.)
The resolution was passed unanimously, and Mr. hem's amendment
was withdrawn.
Mr. Cum moved the second resolution. You all who are acquainted,
he said, among other things, with the manufacture of this town, know
wfohrltabuaopir ece of
or gßid.,
and the price paid in wages from the raw cotton to the yarn, fur the said
w atweesnt in y isocarkcin n
ginches,
this
cloth from the yarn will be I s. 72 reed printer is. The price paid
yarn of which this piece of cloth may have been made, will be about

and using the self.acting mule and throstle, not more than 7d. ;
and thus we are losing the Is. Sid. to this country, and goon shit lost.
the aid. also. This is not the case with the cotton trade alone, but it is
the case with all other trades where a great portion of labour is required
to he expended on the article of manufacture, because the labourer o!
the Continent Can get the same sized loaf for about lid. which our la-
bourer has to pay Is. for ; and all done by this Corn-law monopoly. I
mentioned that they wanted capital; and what are these laws doing ?
sending abroad our capitalists, and our best mechanics, because they can
employ their capital and talents to more advantage the:o than they can
in their native country, and thus putting a weapon in the foreigner's
hands to the ruin of this country.
Mr. HALL seconded the motion,

Mr. H. Corrocx, Town-clerk, came forward to propose the next re
solution. He said that when he entered that room, he certainly did not
expect that coy question, upon which the middle classes could join heart
and soul with the labouring classes in obtaining their rights—he did no,
expect that any party would have tried to prevent that unanimity, with-
out which it would be impossible for them to obtain that which they
deemed to be a blessing, and without which mercantile trade and com.
coerce would be entirely ruined. If the working man wished to get he
rights, how was he to go about it ? Was it by disunion that he woul.l
obtain them ? Was it by sowing the seeds of disunion atnongst men
banded together in one business, upon which all were rgreed ? If the
working classes joined with him in the attempt to gain their views with
respect to the question of the Corn-laws, and did not succeed in con-
vincing the Legislature, then, if the united exertions of the middle and
operative classes did not suffice for the attainment of their object, then
he would say that there was a necessity for n change in the Constitution
of England. But let them join, and, as an united people, firmly de-
mand from the Legislature the repeal of. the Corn.laws; and, if, with
the present Constitution of the country, they could. not acquire that
which they believed to be their dearest right, then there would be a
necessity for a change. •

Mr. HAMER seconded the resolution,' which was carried unanimously.
Mr. SEFTON rose with very great pleasure' to move the fourth resolu-
lution, and he would particularly Impress upon them the serious evils
Which would bb inflicted upon them by the imposition of what the
landed interest would call the moderate duties. Supposingefor instance,
that 10s. per quarter was imposed upon all corn iropottedinto this coun-
try, the consequence would be that the whole fifteranillion quarters of
corn grown in this country would be raisedea the same' standard. So
that if two million quarters were imported, one million pounds only
would go into the Exchequer, but the burden, upon the country would
be twenty-five millions! But that was not all, for as corn, wis only two
fifths of the whole landed product of the,eountty, and as the farmers
would always grow . what-paid the -best,: whatever tended to raise the
price of one kind of produce, would also:raise the value of every other,
therefore the tax upon the•country would be-62;500,000/. if 10s. duty
were imposed. As a proof of what the landlords thought was fond
enough for the people, ho could tell them all what the butter annually
made in this country was valued at. It was 6,000,0001. Now, it we
estimated it at Is. per lb. upon an average, it would show the quantity
to be 12,000,000 lbs., which would be for • a population of
5,000,000 families, of five persons each, about half a-pound
per week for each family, or one ounce' and a half for each individual
Was this what ought to satisfy the people ? Every family ought to con-
sume 21bs. per week, which would require a supply of ten million pounds
per week, five hundred million pounds per annum, and this would, at
ls. per pound, be worth twenty-five millions sterling, which showed that
in the article of butter alone, ese ought to import to the value of nearly
twenty millions sterling annually; and if the people must have what
they could consume of animal food, cheese, bread, &c., we should im
port annually to the value of 50,000,0001.: which would employ
three thousand ships of five hundred tons each, and above fifty
thousand seamen I And as foreigners would not give us s uch commodities,
that amount worth of cutlery,-pottery, silk, cotton, and woollen goods
must be manufactured in this country to be given in exchange for
them. Thus would employment be given to the people by which they
would be enabled to pay for such additional comforts.--(Cheers.) He
would next advert to the state of things in this town. The consump-
tion of flour in Stockport was 1,500 loads per week, besides what was
used in manufactures, and this was above U. per load dearer than it was
two years ago. The consumption of potatoes was from 12 to 1,500 loads
per week, which now cost ss. per load more than at the former period, SD
that for those two necessarict of life about 2.500 per week was paid
by the people of Stockport, over and above what teas paid two years
ago 1 He could assure them, that. for those two articles alone, one
hundred and thirty thousand pounds would be paid by Ike people of
Stockport from the last to the next harvest, over and above what they
paid in the same space of tithe two years ago. We were not likely to
hear complaints amongst every class of t rarlesmen when the above sum,
which ought to be spent with the draper,• the furniture dealer, the pub-
lican, and other retail dealers, was thus taken out of the town in one
year ? Thus were the profits of tradesmen and the comforts of the poor
at once sacrificed.— (Cheers.) He would next allude to the arguments
of those who contended that if we were undersold by foreign manufac-
turers, we could not compete with them, except, by reducing wages.
He would, however, endeavour to prove how we could do so.—
(Hear.) In the first p'ace, a manufactory working up ten tons of cotton
weekly, into cloth, consumed about 12 loads of flour weekly in paste
for dressing; and this quantity Cost about 15/. per week more than it
did two years ago; and probably 21!. moreethan it would do were
there no Corn-laws. The rep-al of these laws wotild,- therefore, re-
lieve such a concern from a tax of one thousand pounds per annum.
But to conclude who were the landed Aristocracy ? They were the
descendants of a set of needy , aduenturers, who came here with
William the Conqueror, whO drove the rightful owners from their
estates, and parcelled out these estates amongst themselves, and
divided the people amongst them, alSo, like So many cattle, and who
then built castles to keep the people-in subjection, and so they have
kept us ever since. How long would tiventyLfiVe millions of people
bow their necks to the iron yoke of these Norman invader's (Loud
cheering.) Our Aristocracy reminded him of the saying of Glenalvon
in the play of Douglas :—" My name is Gienalvone I'm born to com-
mand ten thousand slaves like thee." Yes; the Aristocracy had al-
ways acted thus ; they had made us slaves, and told us it was our charter.
He hoped, however, from the extensive movement and combinedefforts
now making, that the Corn-laws would be repealed, and if they should
be, we should hence commence and continue a career of prosperity and
happiness, sues as no other nation ever before enjoyed in either ancient
or modern times.—Loud cheerine.) Mr. Sefton concluded by moving
the fourth resolution, which, with the remaining resolutions, having
been carried, the Mayor left the Chair, which was taken by H. Mars.
land, Esq., M.P. 'Mr. Oledield moved a vote 01 thanks to the Mayor
for his impartial and excellent conduct in the Chair.
It was stated that the Deputation had agreed to go to London at
their own expense.

MANCHESTER

-FRIDAY.

(FROM OUR OWN 011iR.C!.‘PONDENT.)
MELANCHOLY DEATH.

On Sunday morning last a lamentable case of death took place, at.
tended by some extraordinary circumstances. Mr. Win. Snell, of this
town,late of the firm of Snell, lichens, and Snell, London and Man.
cheater carriers, has for some 'months past been labonring under serious
illness, occasioned, as is supposed, from his having taken cold by inha.:
biting a new built house, and which happened not to be sufficiently
dry. For many weeks he has been evidently growing worse and
worse, till he was attacked by delirium tremens. Immediately on these
symptoms appearing, it was deemed essential to have the family sur-
geon immediately within call, and who, at the time of his death, was
in the house. Early on the above day the paroxysm was at its height,
when Mr. Snell jumped out of bed, laid prostrate both Mrs. Snell
and the surgeon, ran down stairs, and actually vaulted through the
kitchen window, breaking the frame as though it had been match_
wood. He then sped his way across the Highroad, darted across two
fields into a garden, where his night-dress got entangled among some
gooseberry trees. This trifling matter enabled two men who happened
to be passing his house at the moment of Mr. Snell's leaving it, and
who fortunately followed him, to come up with and seize him ; 'imme-
diately on which he expired,