The Sun.
London, England, 1839-04-26 00:00:00

the time was yet come for his party, the Gauche, to enter
office; in this be coincided with him. As for himself, he
could declare that ho had never wished to ecmc into power,
except in the name of his own party, and to cause the prin-
ciples of that party to prevail ; he never would accept office
except in the name of the opinions he professed, and with-
out any personal ambition whatever. He was aware that
he and M. Odilion Barrot wished different things; he him-
self was for the maintenance of the policy of the Juste
milieu ; M. Barrot, on the contrary, disapproved of
that policy; nothing, therefore, was changed between
them. M. Barrot had attacked the laws of September as
well as the disjunction law. Now, even M. Thiers had
expressed himself for the former, thereby showing that the
Doctrinaires and Centre Gauche agreed at least on that
point. As for the disjunction law, it had never been passed,
and was therefore out of the limit of the debate. M Odil-
lon Barrot, he knew very well, if he came into power,
would endeavour to get the laws of September repealed ;
and it tv as therefore very natural for him (M. Guizot) to
wish for a majority, and a Cabinet consonant to his own
political opinions. He would again protest that he had
entertained no wish of promoting discord in the Chamber;
he was sure of the purity of his own intentions—( Hear,
hear)—all he demanded was to find a majority that should
coincide with him in the opinions which he had ever faith-
fully maintained.—( Prolonged sensation.)
M. Cunin Gridaine—l am happy in being able to an-
nounce to the country a fact that has resulted from this de-
aate, and that is, the fact that a spirit of conciliation ha;
never ceased to prevail in this Assembly.—( Lou I and long_
continued laughter.) I took no part in any Ministerial
combination, but I read the programme, and found it so con
formable to my opinions and the wants of the country, that
I was ready to sign it with both hands. The Honourable
Deputy, after attributing the nos-formation of a Mid )try to
certain personal susceptibilities, exhorted those likely to be
called upon to form a new Ministerial combination to re-
collect the wants, wishes, and interests of the country.
M. Mauguin—lt is time to bring this debate to a close.
It has been proved that since the 23d of March, the Crown
conceded every point both with regard to men and mea-
sures ; Ike rupture, then, must be attributed to hun who
was charged with the formation of the Ministry. Much has
been said of a programme. For my own part, lam no
friend to programmes ; but this was allowed to be a very
innocent one, and proved agreeable to all parties, even to
the Doctrinaires. The reason of th's was, that as it spoke
of electoral reform it pleased the Gauche, though the re-
form was to be postponed for the present, which was the
reason that it was not disliked by the Centre Droit. It
acknowledged the principle and the necessity of a conver-
sion of the Rentcs; but it was said that a favourable mo.
meat must be waited for, and then nous verrons.—(Flear,
hear.) IVith regard to Spain each held fast to his oxn
opinion. After seine other observations in a similar strain,
the Honourable Deputy added—" Oar programme is a
Government for all and by all ; let a Ministry be f,rmcd
according to this programare, and the entire of the Oppo-
sition will support it. True conservatism, that of p-o-
-gressive improvement, is in the programme of the Oppo-
sition ; but there a•e among our opponents a great many
partisans of that retrograde Conservatism which leads the
way to revolutions. Ido not think this the fitting moment
for moving an address; but if the country should remain
four or five days more without a Government I shall move
a project of address."

M. Girod (de l'Ain), Minister of Justice—Bat there is
a Ministry.

M. Mauguin—No doubt. But there are questions upon
which you cannot cuter, because they concern the future ;
such, for instance, as the sugar trade, the railroads,
M. Girod (de l'Aain) reminded M. Manguin that the
mission of the provisional Ministry would last as long a+
the crisis. They were Ministers in this sense of the
word, that they were ready to transact the business of the
country, and that they would perform their duty openly and
firmly.—( Hear, hear. )
M. Alauguin explained.

M. Teete was far from wishing to revive the debate.
A programme had been drawn out which had obtained
unanimous assent.—(Exclamations of denial from the
Left.) Ho would say that all the individuals called on to
rally under the banner of this new C.6:net adopted it, and
he could not assent to what the Member who had just
spoken had said of the secret articles of this programme;
what was stipulated for by AIM Thiers and Dupin was but
the expression of the truest principles of the Government.
No one ought to be accused for the unfortunate issue c f
these laborious negotiations ; there had been misunder-
standings and distrusts between men made to esteem and
understand each other. There was no blame to 1:e at-
tached to any one.—(" Very well I" Loud cries of " f,lues•
tion.")
The debate was then unanimously declared to be closed.
M. Passy resumed the President's chair. The Order of
the Day, he said, was the interpellations relative to the
affair of the English packet Express.

M. Mauguin demanded that the Minister of Foreign
Affairs should lay on the table the documents of the neg.).
tiation relative to the English packet Express.
The Duke de Montebello—There has not been any ne-
gotiation in this affair. The English Government has
made no application on the subject, and consequently we
have no papers to produce. It was in the British Parlia-
ment alone that any question VI3; raised ; and, asthe
Ministers replied in terms the most friendly and conciliat-
ing-, we considered that it was but just and consistent with
our good understanding with England to send spontaneously
an explanation, which was tie more simple as the question
arose out of a mere mistake. I will read to the Chamber
the instructions I addressed to our Ambassador at London :

,t M. la Cornte_The King directs you to testify in ex-
press terms to the English Government the lively regret
which he has felt at the taking the Mexican pilot from on
board the Express packet. This incident is the effect of a
mistake, and by no means a failure in respect for the Eng-
lish flag. I can assure you that when Admiral Baudin
gave the order, he was not aware the ship belonged to 6,7!
English navy. You will give these explanations to Lord
Palmerston, expressing, at the same time, your confidence
that they will appear to be satisfactory." Here I might
conclude ; but I will add a few words on the subject of a
letter which has appeared in the public journals, and which
is represented to have been written by our Ambassador at
London. This letter has not yet been oflicially communi.
cated to us. Ido not mean, by saying this, to avoid the
question, because I am ready to defend it whenever it may
be attacked.

M. Mauguin reminded the 'Minister that, at the time of
the engagement before Sin Juan d'Ulloa, the corvette
La Creole received permision to take what part in the
action it pleased. his was not at present, he said, going
to criticise tint measure

Baron Tupinier (Minister of Marine)—No one in the
action received any such permission. Erery one futight
fcr France, and according to orders is-ued by the Admiral.
M. Mauguin—l do not at present intend to make any
reflections on this measure. You are aware that when a
vessel goes out of port, she ought to hoist her colours. At
the moment the Express left the harbour, she displayed
hers. The Creole, instead of having, according to custom,
b Tun by firing a blank c.irtridge, as a signal for the
packet to heave to, cornin,mced by discharging a b al.
The Express stopped in her course, and a boat went car to
her, with an officer from the Creole, who insisted upon
having the Mexican pilot, notwithstanding the remon-
strances of the Captain of the packet. This act placed
us in every serious position.
The Minister cf Marine—This affair has been made of
much greater importance than it merited. The com-
mander of the Creole believed that the Express was a
merchantman. As soon as it was known that she belonged
to the navy, Admiral Ban din made explanations to the
Commander of the 11,ilish squadron, and the matter was
so sati,factorny settled,, that the Captain of the Express
made, no report of it to the Admiralty. The affair was
only revived by a Tory Member of the House of Lords,
who r. fished to seek a cause for censuring the First Lord
of the Admiralty. Besides, the Commander of the Creole
aid no more than obey the orders of Admiral Baudin, and