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outrage, crime, and offence committed in each county, and Learned Gentleman had alluded to this crime in Lord opposite; and his colleagues; but impugned the pl.
city, and town in each month ; showing, also, the total connection with political agitation. Mow it did nut licy of their Government in Ireland, The Noble Lord
in each county, city, and town in each month and in each appear that that town or neighbourhood bad ever been lead taunted thC Doti: aiid Learried Memhet for the
of the said years ; showing, also, the number or persons made the scene of political agitation, end after the te;- I/niveriity of Dublin with having merely moved for
concerned in each outrage; crime, or offence, so far as timony which had been borne to the Chtlear Of the paper& But in order to any ulterior procedings, it
the same can he ascertained." He was about to read Noble Lord, he.truteed that no one in that neighbour= was necessary to procure information, as the facts were
several other resolutions which were on the paper, when hood *dtila be found to have been guilty of such black in dispute. The Noble Lord triumphantly referred to
Mr. O'CONNELL said he intended to ttdve in and atrocious ingratitude. But he (Lord Morpeth) many preceding Governments, under whom crime to a
addition to the first return, el, similar return for England, would never wish to make the increase or decrease great extent pretailgd Hi Ireland ; but tile distinctiOn
Scotland, and Wales. He wished to know whether this of crime the guage by which to measure thd dtiecese of Of the present deleerthilent *at, that While tile country
was the proper time ? any administration, Men of all parties should udite to Was In a state Of outrage and dime it was represented
The SPEAKER was understood to reply ill the af- detect sand punish crime, and he thought that it. did t 6 be in e. etinditidnail 't tfericliiillita and lie ebb." The Hl-
firmative. not redound to the Credit Of any detaintiient til have Edens which the Noble Lord had quoted, to prove
Lord MORPETH said-Certainly it was a satisfac- the caletioly lasened by their negligence or in the diminution of crime in Ireland, were incorrect and
tion to him, upon whom so large a share of personal actitity. He must bear testimony to the vigilance and delusive. The Government Gazettes would prove that
responsibility connected with the matters treated on in activity of the law officers of the Crown in the most frightful intimidation prevailed in Ireland.
the motion and speech of the Hon, and Learned Gen Ireland in the detection and punishment of crime. The [The Han. Member then adverted to a great number
tieman opposite rested, and it also must be something Right Hon. Gentlemen had adverted to the differences of eases in which murders bad been committed before
like a relief to the excited apprehensions of the country, which existed between the returns of the Inspectors Many pen-eons, atiti yet nObddy hail (hired to
.corrie lot-
to find that the explosion which was to overwhelm the of Pollee, and the Clerks of the Peape. ph, discees wafd td 7ive evidence against the assassins.] It was not
Irish Government with shame,• confusion, and ruin- panty was occasioned by the manner in which the re• merely ejectments from land whch caused such out-
which was to visit them with such tremendous retribu- turns were made up. the attention of the Govern- rages ; attacks were constantly made on gentlemen be-
tion as would at least hare issued in impeachment-in ment had been drawn to this subject with the view of cause they would not sign memorials on behalf of con-
an address for removal from office-in a declaratory re- remedying this discrepancy. The House was perhaps victs, &c. ; and on farmers and labourers, because they
commendation of a different line of polity=and termi- aware, that Colonel Shaw Kennedy had introduced the took lower wages than the combanation established ;or
nated in a vote for the production of papers.-(Cheers rule of confining the returns made by the Police In- because they ploughed their lend, instead of digging it,
and laughter.) What had been the burden, for months spectors to those cases on which special reports were for potatoes; in fact, no rank or occup tion in life
and weeks past, the daily and nightly strain, at pubtio made, omitting patty offences. A return had also been was exempt from the influence of the universal
and corporation meetings, in the columns of the Preis, made for the purpose of showing the amount of offalcs of system of combination and in: imidetien. The
within the walls of Parliament? Had it not been a a less serious character. From these returns it Government had lectured the la “11,trds of Ireland
uniform and gloomy representation, of all law trampled would be shown that the number of serious offences as having duties equally with rights, but Go-
under foot-of properryand life left wholly unguarded- committed from July to December 1837, amounted to vernment would better direct the administration against
(Tory cheers)-of property and life left altogether un- 3,473 ; from January to June 1838, 2,622 ; and from the Catholic priests, whose dentanci itions were con-
guarded by the present Ministry.-(Continued cheers.) July to December 1838, to 2,356, thus showing a de- stantly the incentives to murder. [The Hon. Member
1 They talked of the Church ruined, of the Throne crease in the number of serious offences. At the same then gave several instances of persons who ha' been
menaced, of Protestantism at its last gasp ; and yet, time he would admit that an increase hid taken place denounced by the priests and shortly art erwArds mur-
to meet all this, they moved a vote for the production in minor offences, thus showing that there was no tie- dered.] The Noble Lord had talked al:out the absence
of papers. While the Marquis of Normanby was wait- creased activity on the part of the police. The minor of Ribbonism, but he had caused to be
inz, before he could apply himself to the duties of the offences from January to June 1837, amounted to expunged from the returns all reference to the ribbon
Colonial-office, for the impeachment of which he had 71,297 ; from July to December 1837, 74,336 ; from conspiracy. Did the Noble Lord think, th it because
been repeatedly declared to be deserving-while Lord January to June 1838, to 74,536 ; and from July to he had struck Ribbonism from his returns he bad re-
Ebrington was waiting for an address to cancel his ap- December 1838, 86,015. He did not imagine that moved it frost Ireland ?-(Hear, hear, from the Oppo-
pointmeut, in consequence of a speech which be had there was any real increase in miner offences, but that sition.). In 1835 the returns were found to exeluee
once made within these walls-what was the course this was entirely owing to the increased efficiency of the Ribbonism. When the suldect of Ribnonisin was
taken by the other side? Why they moved for the constabulary force. The Noble Lord then entered brought forward by in Noble Friend of his in another
production of papers which had been granted year after very minutely . into the details of the different place, in Dec. 1837, the Noble M nrquis (Normanby)
year as a matter of course.-(Cheers.) The Hon. and offences committed, and read a comparative statement had denied that any Ribbon conspiracy existed in that
Learned Gentleman concluded an eloquent speech, by of the number of arrests which had taken place country.-(Hear, hear.) In 18:16 reports were for-
saying that nothing remained for them to do but to nip- for each offence during each year, from 1834 to 183te, in ~eardel to the Irish Government, from their own police
ply to Parliament or the Sovereign, and then in a miti order to prove the correctness of his statement. It in the counties; of Sligo and Wicklow, that Ribbonism
gated and suppliant form, moved for the production of was satisfactory to find that the convictions had in- to a great extent was in existence. In Westmeath and
papers.-(Cheers, and laughter.) Anything rather than creased in the same ratio as the committals had to Louth the same conspiracy against the lie, s and pro-
-1 appeal to the direct verdict of this House-anything the number of offences committed, whereas in 1825 perties of the inhabitants was reported to he extensively
I rather than a vete which might bring about a change of they were one half ;in 1838 the ratio was as 4-sths, organized. He held in his hand copies of the
that policy which had been attacked with such vehe- which amounted very near to the same per tentage ribbon signs and passwords which presented a
menc-anything but the risk of dislodging the Minis- as in England. This rule applied not ol!y to minor singular instance of uniformity and identity of
try from their seats, for which they would do anything, offences, but to offences of a graver character. Mr. purpose, and which was well-known to be spread
or suffer anything, tether than take upon themselves to Barrington, a person of very considerable experience over a great .portion of tine country.' The Hon. Gen-
occupy it.-(Cheers.) Now, as to the motion of the as a public officer, ascribed that state of things to the derma) then referred to the evidence on this subject
Hon. and Learned Gentleman, he had said as much, or efficiency of the police force. With respect to the given before a Committee of the House of Commons in
more, than it deserved. The papers he should be very system of ribbonism, it was a subj et which deserved 1832. Priest Walsh stated that he believed there were
ready to give, with the exception of one or two, which the deepest attention of the Government. They hat' not less than 200,000 men organized in that conspiracy.
would be calculated to impede the public service some clues in their possession at present, but they were The Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin, in a speech
in the . administration of justice.-(Hear, hear.) of an extremely vaeue and unsatisfactory nature. of his delivered in August, 1833, hail stated that Rib-
The hulk of the papers he should be ready to give, and He trusted that the Right Hon. Gentleman would not bonism existed in the Counties of Dublin, Wicklow, and
the fullest information on every point that could be press for the correspondence relating to it, as he thought other places, and that by one speech of his he had in-
required. He might also at some other time take the it would be productive of much mischief. It could only duced thirty-two Ribbon-lodges to dissolve themselves.
liberty of moving for some additional papers, for these put the parties on their guard. He could assure the The evidence of Mr. Gore Jones, a stipendiary Magis-
only referred to the years 1835, 6,7, 8, and 9; the pa- House that the question should have the,unremitting at- trate, and Mr. Barry, of Limerick, fully substantiated
riod during which the Marquis of Normanby had con tention of the Government. He did not think that it that state of things. He .believed that land been en-
ducted the administration of affairs in Ireland. He was connected with any atrocious crimes, but related couraged rather than repressed, by the conduct of the
was prepared to prove that contrasts with former pe- more to assaults and minor offences. If allowed to go Irish Government, in extending the clemency of the
riot's would not be disadvantageous to the Government on,it might extenditself-(Cheers)-but the Government Crown to cases which were by no means fitted for the
of the Marquis of Normanby, and he should therefore were fully alive to the importance of the subject. As exercise of the Royal prerogative of mercy. Tim
take the liberty of filling up the preliminary void which to imputations which had been thrown out that the Hon. Gentleman then referred to the case of Coghlan,
had been left unoccupied.-(Cheers.) The speech of Government encouraged crime and discouraged prose. who had been convicted at the Sligo Assizes forted
the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had branched off cutions, he met it with perfect indifference.-(Cheers,) asseult on a Mr. O'Donnel, and who had been liberated
into two lines of argument-one connected with the Tine Hon. Gentlemen opposite had a fair and perfect by order of the Lord Lieutenant, and *concluded by ex•
present state of disturbance and crime in Ireland, and right to question the line of policy pursued by the Go• pressing his dsapprobation of the course of policy pur-
the other with the conduct of the Government. Ile vernment. It 'was fair to them to find fault with the sued by her Majesty's Government in Ireland with
did not stand here to palliate or pass over those crimes manner in which the Government thought proper to respect to patronage and appointments.
of which such a formidable representation had been govern Ireland ;it was fair to them to impute that to the Mr. PIGOTT would not follow the Hon. Gentle-
made.--(Hear, hear.) They were deplorable, and sympathy which the present Government endeavoured man through the lengthened statements he had made.
the worst part of the consideration was that they to show to the opinions and feelings of the great body of Nothing could be more inconvenient in a deliberative
were not new. if he thought that their removal from the people-(Loud cheers)-it was fair to say that the asembly, and nothing could conduce less to the due
present state of Ireland arose from such sympathy or to
office would bring additional security to a singe home-administration of justice than on a motion for the pro-
stead in Ireland-wows have a tendency to still one any of the executive acts of the Government, or to any duction of returns to come forward with a long detail of
shout of outrage, or coo shriek of suffering-would stay interchange of courtesy or communication which he individual cases, and call upon those opposed to him
the uplifted hand of the assassin, or divert one bullet (Lord Morpeth) had thought fit to have with the for a separate and distinct explanation ot' every one of
from its murderous aim-he should hail with joy the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin, for it was to these cases.-( Hear, hear.) Much of the Hon. Gene fiat which removed him from its burthens and respon- such dignified attacks that the Hon. Gentleman had man's arguments and statements had been met by anti-
sibilities.-(Loul cheers.) But what he maintained now descended-(Great cheering)-they might attri- cipation. The Hon. Gentleman had produced long
was, that the period during which the present Govern. bate to any or all of these the misfortunes and mischiefs fists of Outrages founded upon he knew not what author
ment had been in office had not been more stained with of which unfortunately Ireland was still the theetre_ rity, and obtained upon he knew not what information,
insurrection, or violence, or general crime, than any core they might contend that a different line of policy might and on such data he had impugned the whole course of
responding interval for the last sixty years, and that secure the peace of the country, and smooth the the administration of justice in Ireland. ' He was satis-
during the whole of that time outrages and crimes would progress of public affairs. These grounds lied, however, that a very few months would convince
be found to have proneeded from similar causes. It were all open and fair for party warfare, but the House and the public that the Hon. Gentleman's an-
had not been said in express terms that the state of if they proceeded farther-if they descended from ticipations were utterly unfounded, and his predictions
affairs was worse now than at any former period, but those fair and open grounds to impute an improper falsified. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman then re-
.that was the inference which the Hon. and Learned encouragement of crime to the Government-he met ferred to the inurd.g of Mr. O'Keefe, and observed that
Gentleman wished the House to make.--(Cheers.) them with perfect indifference ; when they imputed a although the perpetrators of that outrage were still un•
In 1761, the first Whiteboy outrages commenced, being charge of abetting outrage, and a disregard of the discovered, and although it had been asserted that it
caused by the enclosure of waste lands. Crimes were proper means for protection and punishment, he re- had nothing to do with disputes about the tenure of
committed, at which humanity shuddered, and laws were pelted the insinuation as utterly,
as manifestly, land, yet if the House would' only suspend its judgment
passed, fitted only for the meridian of Bombay. There nay, even as absurdly, unfounded.-(Loud cheers.) for a short period, he could assure it that facts would
was a series of Whiteboy outrages down to 1786, when Ile denied it in toto, and he challenged the Iti4ht come out which would place the matter in a very differ-
the Whiteboys were succeeded by the Lightboys, who Hon. Gentleman to the p-oof. There had been ent light. Much had been said of the existence and pro-
endeavoured to prevent the pa) ment of rent. In 1791, crimes in Ireland under every Administration- gress of Ribbonism, and all the outrages in the northern
the Hearts of Steel, began their outrages, attacking the (Cheers)-but the law under the Government of Lord and midland parts of the island ball been ascribed to the
mails and rescuing prisoners. In 1800, the United Normanby had been administered with greater effect, existence of these societies. In 1822 there were secret
Irishmen were established. In 1803, was the murder certainty, and vigour, then under any former one.- associations and crimes connected with them, as well
of Lord Kilmore, the country bordering upon insurrec- (Loud cheers.) - The Right Hon. Gentleman had as since. But Government had always great difficulty
tion. In 1806, the Chief Justice, in remarking upon found fault with the appointment of his Hon. and iii fixing a distinct crime of Ribbonism on their members,
the outrages which were prevalent, said they d not Learned Friend near him (Mr. Pigott), and had taken partly from the confined extent of the associations. The
partake of any political complexion. Outrages of this occasion to couple with that the appointment of his Hon. Gentleman had stated a number of counties from
description continued down to 1820, when an account Noble Friend, Lord Fortescue. With respect to the which he said distinct charges of Ribbonism had been
was given in that House of the most dreadful state of former, his Hon. and Learned Friend would answer forwarded to the Government, but which the Govern-
the county of Galway, in which the police barracks for himself; and with respect to the latter, after the ment had neglected to investigate. He (Mr. P.) now
were attacked, and the regular troops repeatedly vindication which his Noble Friend had made of his asked the Honourable Gentleman what proof he
engaged. In 1821, the insurrection of the Rockites speech in another place, ho would consider it 'derogatory had of what he had asserted in order to
commenced. In the year 1822, the police were not to his character to attempt to defend him again.-(Loud fix the blame of negligence upon the Government.
found sufficient to protect the country. In the year cheers.) The Right Hon. Gentleman had made allu- Might he not find, on the contrary, that the Govern-
11823, it was stated in that House, that throughout sion to the speech attributed to Lord Charleville, in ment had carefully considered those informations, and
reland, every feeling was in favour of the offender, and King's County. He did not mean to attribute any that in many cases they had been found to result from
justice was continually evaded. But the Opposition in wilful perversion of the truth, but the Noble Lord exaggeration, from hearsay and falsehood?-(Hear,
those days did not think it part of their duty to con- was acting under excited feelings. The Government were hear.) He (Mr. P.) would not now anticipate public
fleet every crime and every outrage with the incapacity in possession of information which
gave a very different justice by goingnto details. But he could assure the
and misconduct of the Government.-(Loud cries of version of the affair stated to have occurred in Tullamore. i
Hon. Gentleman that whenever a change of Ribbonism
" Hear, hear," from the Ministeral benches.) In 1820 A great deal had been said relative to the letter of Mr. was established Government would strenuously do its
the Rightllon. Bart., the Member for Tamworth, had Drummond. His (Lord Morpeth's) opinion was that duty.-( Hear. hear.) To the present Administration
detailed the measures which had been adopted by pre. the tenure of land was at the bottom of ail these dis- was owing the admirable police force, the system of
ceding administrations. He said it was scarcely pos. turbances. Was there anything so very reprehensible police stations,•under a central uniform system now
sible that there could be a change for the worse, and or misplaced, when, in answer to a lengthened statement acting throughout Ireland. These were among the
that scarcely for a single year since the Union had from the Magistrates of Tipperary, the Under Se- proofs of the vigour of the Government. The criminal
Ireland been governed in the ordinary course of law. cretary of State should have taken upon himself to returns laid before the House by the Noble. Lord the
In 1800 the Habeas Corpus Act had been suspended, follow out their statements, and when specially appealed Secretary for Ireland were quite correct, having been
and the Rebellion Suppression Act enforced. Down to on the subject, that the depositaries of authority checked by the inspectors of gaols before they were for-
to 1806 those measures had been continued, and in should have requested those who alone could be ad- warded. They were therefore not liable to the objec-
-1807 the Insurrection Act was introduced, giving dressed, to point out the quarter from whence ail the tions frequently urged against other returns, which were
power to the Lord Lieutenant to proclaim any district danger mainly came, and to caution them lest by any not prepared with equal diligence and corrective care.
out of the pale of the ordinary law, and in 1814 that Act abuse of their power and privileges they should give Mr. E. TENNENT said without going into details
was continued. Down to 1825 that Act was enforced,and fresh provocation or incentives to the sprit which there could be only one feeling respecting the Govern-
in 1825, the Act for the suppression of illegal associa- prevailed ? What was the number of ejectments in ment of helat,d for the last few years-namely, that
tions was passed, which expired in 1828. Now he the superior Courts of Dublin during the last six years ?
i
religiousii
since
e d i theragedand
betweenrheen el: ai‘sritaili
s agd u
i 3 wider,of
N w ando
though the country during these periods bad been low, 191 ; in Montford, 172 (independent of 300 at the
political
greatly disturbed, at least Government had done their Quarter Sessions) ;in Queen's County, 213 ; in King's greater
Nor-
duty by asking for fresh powers to strengthen their County, 136 ; in Sligo, :180-(-leer, hear) -in mai)), undertook the Lord Lieutenancy of that
hands.--{Hear, hear, from the Opposition.) The Westrreath, 200. He had documents and memorials country. Party feeling was now much more inveterate
House had seen that the occasional Coercive Acts stating circumstances, which, if read, would produce a than before the Catholic Emancipation in in% The
ceased to be enforced in 1828, 1829, aed 1830, when strong impression on the House. He would not do so ; but Catholics and Protestants had many grounds of sym-
the Duke of Northumberland was at the head of the he must say that the Government would not be alive to its patty. Many Protestants were members of the Catho-
Government in Ireland, and he would advert to some duty if they did not occasionally direct the voice of warning lie Association. How many Protestants belonged -to
proceedings during that period, which would show against the employer as well as the employed.-(Hear.) the Precursor Society ? There were no supporters either
the state of the country at a period when Mr. Drummond was not the first person who had ex• in numbers or money from the principal Protestant coun-
the Government of the Duke of Wellington pressed this opinion. When the Noble Lord (the ties. Not one single gentleman, not one Protestant
and of Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite, had refused to Member for North Lancashire) held the same situation pretending to respectability in Belfast, joined the branch
apply for fresh powers or extraordinary remedies. The he said, "itis my opinion that a great part of the dis- of the Precursor Society in that town--except, indeed,
Noble Lord then went into a detail of various awful tress existing in Ireland is attributable to the conduct one-that he, in forwarding his Is. subscription, en-
outrages which had occurred in Ireland during the of the landlords."-(Cheers.) Mr. Leslie Foster, treated that his name should be suppressed.-( Hear,
period referred to. The Magistrates of different counties Mr. Blackburn (the late -Attorney General of Ireland), hear.) Another proof of the growing prejudice of Pro-
had met and expressed their dissatisfaction at , the and Mr. Lewis, had expressed similar opinions. At the testants against Catholics Was seen in the fact that the
means afforded by the existing laws for the protection very moment when the opinion of Mr. Drummond former no longer collected money at the chapels of the
of life and property, and calling upon the Government was expressed, the Government was in possession of latter as before 1819. The Precursor Association was
to institute some extraordinary measure for the pre- an actual clue for the apprehension of the murderers, distinctly a Roman Catholic corrinitinita ; and the
servation of peace and order. But the Government which bad been followed up with unremitting vigilance, widening ill feeling between Catholics and Protestants
of the Duke of Wellington had disregarded these and at the very moment when the King's County Ma- arose, in a great degree, from the flaggant preference
appeals, and had not applied for any unusual gistrates were branding the conduct of Government, evinced by the Marquis of Nermatibe's Government fdr
powers. This should be borne in mind, when the orders had been issued for a Special Commission in those, to the eeeltision of the members of the Este-
present Government were accused of disregarding the Tipperary for the trail of csrtain murderous and,instir- blished Church. So disorganised was' ireletal how, that
remonstrances of the Magistracy.-(Hear. hear.) The rectional offences.-(Hear, hear.) So long as they in the opinion of an eminent Hie!' bartletet, trial by
present Government had also been charged with the in- were entrusted with the government of the country, Jury Was no longer looked up to as an im-
security of Clergymen's lives in Ireland. Since Lord Nor- the most unremitting vigilance should be used to de_ partial and safe tribunal. And the exercise
manby took upon himself the Government of Ireland tect-the most careful investigation to trace, and the
of the prerogative
the
there had only been one clergyman-the Reverend most unsparing-, though discriminating, severity to even against Boerntmeneercusy ea
ft tirteep
tiCratestl ea
nod!' bouf bltihne,
Mr. Dawson-killed, and the Rev. Mr. Beresford shot punish every atrocious form of crime and outrage..- Judges,' showed to one class of the public that they had
at ; but in the years 1819 and 1830, there were about a (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Their policy might be no reliance to be planed Its hitherto upon the irnpar-
dozen clergymen either murdered or violently assaulted. questioned-that was matter for the decision of a tiality of justice.-( Heat; hear.) An instance of this
The Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman, in the state- Superior Assembly. Their motives might be libelled lately occurred in Belfast---a Catholic rattlediiernard
meat which he had made, had alluded to the great in- -that was a matter of perfect indifference.-(Cheers.) had excited a disgraceful riot in the house of a Protest,
crease in the,number of Government rewards which had They did not withdraw their deliberate opinion that ant. lie was convicted and sent to prison, but in
been offered since the present Government came into property had its duties as well as its rights.-(Cheers.) November last, at the end of three weeks' incarceration;
Power. He was perfectly willing to admit this increase It was the determination of the Government to enforce he was' lsberated by the Losd Lieutenant add his last
because he could prove that that increase heal taken the provisions of the law-even to apply to Parliament act after his escape was to come to the house of the
place, not in consequence of the increase of crime, but if its provisions should be inoperative. At the same prosecutor and to boast of the influence of his party with
from the desire of satisfying the injured parties,
and time, he wished it to be understood, that any unusual the Government, and to threaten him with a repetition
showing the country that the Government was in earnest straining of the law, any departure from the recog- of the outrage.--( Hear, hear.) The effect of the ad-
in its determination to suppress crime. This custom of nixed spirit of the Constitution, and its practice, ought ministration of Lord Normanby in Ireland would long
offering rewards had been greatly extended and in- to.be resorted to as seldom, as sparingly, and for as be remembered in that country-(Cheers)-and in
creased in comparison to the practice which had existed short periods of time as possible.-(Cheers.) In con- nothing more than in the precedents he had made for the
under former Governments. In many of the cases eluding the observations with which he had troubled release of the worst description of men.-( Hear, hear.)
which he had related as having happened- previous to the House, he could not conceal from them his deep- He would not longer detain the House, as other Hon.
the year 1835, no reward had been offered, seated opinion, strengthened by every opportunity of Members more conversant with the outrages that had
which circumstance would account for this in. observation, that it was by operating, in the first taken place were anxious to address the House. Ile
crease. The Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman instance, upon the physical condition of the people- should give his hearty support to the motion of his
had also alluded to the discrepancy existing between (Cries of " Hear, hear")--in order that they might Right Honourable Friend.
the rewards offered and the amounts claimed, but he ascend to cope with moral ones-(Hear, hear)-by Mr. V. STUART thought that the present Govern'
understood from his Noble Friend -the Secretary of creating new links between the employer and the em- ment were entitled to the thanks.of the people of Ire-
State for the Home Department that a considerable ploycd, and still more by imparting new habits and new land for the manner in which they had carried on the
discrepancy existed also in England -(" Hear, hear," hopes in their own bosams-by opening fresh sources of government of that country, and the 'judicious exercise
from Lord John Russell)-although not quite to the employment, and by deepening the channels of industry they had made ofthe •
extent to which it existed in Ireland. The Right Hon. and enterprise-by developing all the natural resources, hear.)
and Learned Gentleman he alluded more particularly and thus seconding the intention of nature's great in-
Gee. CONOLLY deprecated the sympathy that had
to the atrocious outrage committed on Lord Nor- strutter-they would the most easily and effectual)y, bee
bury ;as the Government was not in possession of and it might be exclusively, attain the great ends of o't 1 effect of •
scrim in Ireland ; it would have t ne inereas-
n.xpressed by the Noble Lord for the perpetrators
any clue which could lead to the detection of the per- civil government, secure the reign of social order, anti •
ing crime in
•give them
petrator of this horrible crime, all he (Lord Morpeth) give a fatal stab to the waning forms of lawless viols i fusion.
. co
log,
The Government ought, instead ympat 1. -
could do was to give expression to those feelings and savage crime. The Noble Lord resumed ' ' .Ribbon system in
ses seat nig, to punish the supporters of the ..
that country, and create anaefhs and cho,ng-
which he was sure he shared in common with every amidst loud cheering.
e Ireland, otherwise tine ignorant part of society in Ire-
right-minded man with regard to this subject, feelings Mr. COLQUHOUN said he did
of unmitigated horror and detestation. The Right Hon. Hon. Friends, impute impro ' not, nor did his land would imagine-the Government would
per sitolivee to the Noble a premium for outrage. It was surprising to him