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fChamberlain, and it appeared from the statements of that
noble lord that the last Levee was a most exceptional one,
no less than 3,000 'gentlemen having attended to show
their respect to the Prince of Wales. (Hear, hear.) The
accommodation provided on these occasions was only for
1,500. The gentleman were invited to use a room with a
number of seats provided for ladies attending the Drawing
Rooms, but no one availed themselves of the uffer—(laugh-
ter)—so eager were they to gain access to his Royal High-
ness. (Hear, hear.)
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE—SIR, F. SMITH AND
MR. REED.

Sir J. PAKINGTON rose to put the following question
to the Secretary to the Admiralty, whether he could inform
the house that Mr. Reed, previous to his employment by
the present Board of Admiralty, had ever drawn the lines,
or prepared the models, or superintended the construction
of any man-of-war or other ship ?
Lord C• PAGET replied, that looking at the circum-
stances that Mr. Reed was about to be called to the house,
it would be better for.the right hon. baronet to defer put-
ting his question. (Ilear, hear.)
The SPEAKER then inquired of the Sergeant-at-
Arms if Mr. Reed was in attendance ?
The SERGEANT-AT-ARMS—Mr. Reed is in at •

tendance.
The SPEAKER—Let him be brought in.
The SERGEA.NT-AT-ARMS then retired, and immediately
returned with Mr. Reed, who bowed respectfully to the
house.
The SPEAKER—Did you write that letter? (The letter
to Sir F. Smith was here exhibited to Mr. Reed by the
Chief Clerk, Sir Dennis Le Marchant.)
Mr. REED—I did.
The SPEAKER—Is that the letter?
Mr. REED—It is.
The SPEAKER—I have to acquaint you that the writ-
ing of that letter has been adjudged a breach of the privi-
leges of this house. Have you anything to say with respect
to that letter ?
Mr. REED replied—Sir, I was not aware, when I wrote
that letter, that I was committing a breach of the privileges
of this house, or most assuredly I should not have
written it. Knowing now that I have committed an
offence against the rules of this house, I beg to
apologise most humbly for the error I have com-
mitted. (Hear, hear.) To the hon. and gallant mem-
ber I beg to tender an ample apology, First, for hav-
ing written in the terms I did with respect to a statement
made by him, and secondly, for having employed in the
letter I did write phrases of impropriety. I am quite
confident, Sir, that I wrote this letter under feelings of
irritation, and that the hon. and gallant gentleman was
quite misunderstood by me, and that he did not mean to
commit any injustice. (Hear, hear.) I hope this apology
will be deemed sufficient by the hon. and gallant officer, of
whose high character, both in this house and his honour-
able profession, I have a full and perfect knowledge.
The SPEAKER—You may withdraw.
Mr. Reed having withdrawn,
Sir F. SMITH said the staightfoi ward apology made by
Mr. Reed perfectly satisfied him, and if the house was, as
he ventured to believe, of the same opinion, he should move
that Mr. Reed be relieved from further attendance on that
house. (Hear, hear.)
The motion was agreed to.
SUPPLY.
POLAND:
On the motion for going into Committee of Supply,
Mr. HENNESSY rose, pursuant to notice, to move an
address to the Crown on the subject of Poland. He said
that in the session of 1864, when ho asked the attention of
Parliament to the state of Poland, he was met by the stereo-
typed reply that Poland was not a practical question. In
the fallowing session he received the same answer. He
ventured to affirm that, whatever tone might be taken by
the Government, that reply would not be given to-night.
Since 1861 Poland had become, in the estimation of every
member of that house, not only a practical but a momentous
question. In 1861 events were taking place in Poland that
were little understood in other parts of Europe. It was then
said that theendurance and passive attitude of the Poles were
an indication that they laboured under the pressure of three
great Powers, and that the heart of Poland did not beat
under that pressure. He thought, on the contrary, that the
great forbearance of the Poles was a proof of their trust in
their leaders, their confidence in their cause, and their faith
in the future. It was due to the Russian Government that
the attitude of the Poles had been changed, and it was owing
to the conduct of that Government that recent events had
occurred. Early in tho year 1862 an Imperial ukaso was
issued which promised reforms, and appeared to confer
privileges on the Poles. On the 10th of June, 1862, the
HOUSE OF COMMONS---Last Evening.
Emperor appointed the Grand Duko Constantine his Lieu
•
The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock. tenant in Poland, and the Marquis Wielopolski toassisthim,
DEAL IMPROVEMENT BILL. The Grand Duke Constantine solicited the Polish nobles
On the second reading, to confer with him on the wants of Poland. The nobles,
Mr. KNATCHBULL-HUGESSEN moved that it be the great landowners, and the municipal bodies responded
read a second time that day six months, on the ground to that appeal. It was not alone from the Emperor of the
that the majority of the inhabitants were opposed to the Russias and from his Lieutenant the Grand Duke that indi-
bill, there being an act in fo: ce which gave all the advan- cations were addressed to the Poles, telling them to petition
tages sought to be obtained by this measure, for a liberal form of government. When he called the
Sir C. BRYDGES seconded the motion. attention of the house to the state of Poland there was
Mr. MASSEY supported the amendment. seated in the Peers' gallery an illustrious Polish nobleman
After a few words from Sir E. DERING, the second who overheard the words spoken from the Treasury Bench
reading was negatived without a division. by Lord J. Russell. That noble lord was then making his
SECOND READINGS, last speech in that house, and he said to Poland, " I believe
The Hastings Pier, Harbour, and Railway, and Newton your interests point to tranquillity, and to petitions and re-
and Malignlleth Railway (agreement w.th the Great quests for a more liberal form of government, and for insti •
Western) Bills were read a second time. tutions similar to those whioh were granted from Vienna."
BRISTOL DOCKS AND PORT BILL. How was that advice followed ? The marechal de noblesse
On the motion of Mr. FORSTER, these bills were referred went back to his own country shortly after the noble lord had
to the General Committee on Railway and Canal Bills, made that speech. the ukase to which he had referred was
PETITIONS. published,and inconsequence the noblesof Podolia assembled;
Mr. Cox, from Alderman and members of the Common 300 of them met, the 12 marechals de noblesse at their head,
Council of London, in favour of the retention of Epping and an address to the Emperor was drawn up in which
Forest for the public, and praying for inquiry.—Mr. Con-
they said—
DEN, from Rochdale, praying for an equalisation of the "Rejecting all thoughts of the predominance of any par-
sugar duties. titular race or class, the Podolian nobles remain true to the
THE COMMERCIAL TREATY BETWEEN fundamental Polish idea of giving to all classes the same
FRANCE AND ITALY. political rights, and they require union with Poland because
Mr. W. FORSTER asked the Under Secretary of State ,tgeyssiereueilliesnucilif utitteioeneuthnetrfyotitsnvdeartyion l
afrpeeeepei institutions.riieut
for Foreign Affairs, whether the Foreign Office had in its means of education, the laws opposed to the customs, tradi-
possession a copy of the Commercial Treaty between France tions, and interchange of opinions, the execution of the laws
and Italy now waiting ratification by the Italian Pullen. rendered nugatory by an administration foreign tro the coun-
ment,ars and also a copy of the new Italian tariff; if
.so,
atryci Terdecoanrcaenatoradtedflobaerlyondathpeoppaolieagtnhewniarhioountlowrganne
whether he was prepared to lay these documents upon the selectedlm frerom'its own body for the purpose of directing its
table of the house; and, if not, whether he was aware that affairs.
several days ago these documents were laid upon the table What was the result of that address ? He held in his hand
of the Italian Chambers by the Italian Minister ? three letters describing the fate of that nobleman who had
Mr. LAYARD hoped that the explanation which he heard the advice of Lord Russell, and had followed it. One
ventured to offer the other night would have been deemed of the letters was dated from a prison at St. Petersburg,
satisfactory. The fact was that treaty had not been com- and the other two described what had happened. The last
pletely ratified. However, as soon as it Ras ratified it letter was dated the 16th February, 1863, and was written
would be laid on the table of the house, and communicated by a near relative of the nobleman to whom he referred. It
to the various cham bars of commerce. An abstract had said, "The marechal de noblesse whom you have seen in
been confidentially communicated to the Government. England is now at the fortress of Petropaulovski,condemned
LONDON RAILWAYS. for 14 months, with 11 of his companions, to most inhuman
Lord ENFIELD gave notice that on Tuesday next he torments." (Hear.) So much for following the advice which
should ask the President of the Board of Trade whether, had been given in that house, and also taking counsel of the
looking at the number of railway projects afoot for the me- Russian authorities. (Hear.) He mentioned that incident to
tropolis and suburbs, it would not be expedient, with a illustrate the conduct of the Russian authorities as far as
view to the protection of the public, to appoint a special it affected the higher classes in Poland. But every class in
committee or Royal Commission to report thereon. Poland felt the pressure of the Russian Government, because
ENTRY OF THE PRINCESS OF WALES. during the time of which he was speaking a state of siege
ORDER OF PROCESSION. prevailed. - He had said that the Grand Duke Constantine
Sir R. CLIFTON asked the Secretary of State for the had invited the municipal authorities and town councils to
Home Department whether there was any truth in the confer with him upon the state of the people. The Town
Council of Warsaw, acting upon that invitation, sent in to
statement in the newspapers yesterday that he had written
the Grand Duke a report, dated July 20, 1862, on one of the
to the authorities of the City as to changing the ceremonial
prisons of Warsaw. The report began by saying that "the
upon the reception of the Princess Alexandra?
total number of men and women arrested from the begin-
Sir G. GREY replied that he had not given any instruc-
ning of the year 1862 to July 19, was 14,833." The de-
tions altering any plan of loyal ceremonial that her Ma-
scription of the room in which the political prisoners were
jesty's subjects proposed adopting. He had, it was true,
confined was as follows :
been co-operating with the different authorities, in " Room No. 18, the same small size as the other two, ex-
cept that it is but halftheir width, contains 30 men, arrested
order to assist them into the best mode of doing
honour to her Royal Highness in her passage for not carrying lanterns at night. This room has no furni-
There
is
scarcely
alitredaor
arirmaonvcei
through London, (Loud cheers.) The procession would tureoeaga ornttomneensmianllibtarereend window.itii. There is so little
not be a state one in the usual sense of that term.
aboutsa with freedom.
There would be six open ;carriages, provided the weather the close packing of these 30 persons is an unprecedented
was of a very favourable nature—(laughter)--and instance of disregard of human life."
the The report closed with this sentence,--
LifeGcourtaergdes. wAousltdrenbge
desire
endheadd
beenby aexpsrqeussaeddrobny
thoef
"Considering, first, that the number of people arrested
City of London—always foremost in all loyal demonstra- during the past half-year amounts to nearly 1-10th of the
tairoen ,
eerxscelnusd
tions and in loyalty to the Throne--(cheers)--to take a whole population of the town, and to 1-sth of such popula-
idnefae forchildren; acmonesi
rrhiafitinaminnltehnotsieenartreestre
leading part in the reception of the Princess at tho
Bricklayers' Arms, the citizens claiming some jurisdic-
decrpees of the police, and mothers with trifling
children, even
tion over the ancient and loyal borough of Southwark. children of four years old and children at the breast aro
The other municipal authorities of the districts through often arrested—the Deputy-President and the delegates of
which their Royal Highnesses would pass had also ex- the Municipal Council consider it most expedient to take
pressed an anxious desire to be allowed the fullest oppor-
immediate steps to put a stop to this evil."
tunity of taking a part in the proceedings of the day. He was not quoting newspapersnow,lest any person should
(Hear, hear.) It had, therefore, been arranged accuse him of exaggerating ;he had quoted from the report
that the authorities of Southwark—attended by his two hon, of the Town Council upon the prison of the town. (Hear.)
friends the members for the borough (Mr. Layard and Mr. There were other addresses from provincial councils in
re-
Locke)--(hear, and laughter)—should attend at ply to the invitation of the Russian Government, and
e
the Bricklayers' Arms to receive the Princess. would read a few words from the address of the provincial
The Lord Mayor and Sheriffs would be likewise council of Piotrkow, dated November, 1862:—
present present at the station ; but it was arranged,present
in order to prevent overcrowding, in consequence of the the.ra.uthorrigeswatoo n_
toofemeen qualified for the various kinds of
"The council also feelsf ihietsottoyf
number of carriages, that the civic procession, in position—tho want
the years 1833faronmd 1856
this province,
manyt thousands
theattention of
its entirety, should join at London-bridge and have been recruited for the
the psuimy
ation, and not leaving enough
precede the cortege as far as Temple-bar. At tuting thela ceruear. et
Thesecream of
recruits were sent thousands of miles
Temple-bar the authorities of 'Westminster, headed
amweanyt,°irnto strange lands, for many years, were attacked by
by the Duke of Buccleuch, High Steward, the Dean tcoauses;
a dreadful mortality isnrceodnoseeeqduteen4cupf thte climate, and re-
of Westminster, the High Constable, and other burgesses, turntntlit.oeirrhneyrnab
province.er For thesenraeasoonnlys thelr, but
would receive the Princess. (Hear, hear.) The authorities a
habsutelt it to be its duty to protest against any the
eecrouliittlincigl
of every part of the metropolis, through which her Royal
for the army which might be carded into effect on similar
Highness will pass had really and truly vied, the principles, and, above all, against a system which, by call-
one with the other, to do honour to the Princess jag toretheerarmy the. majority of persons belonging to the
Alexandra, and to be afforded an opportunity of exhibiatrine(gi
eevdeurcya
mdeansmeThserfi.edecvlaer, would deprive the province of
their loyalty on this interesting occasion,
a feeling
galieveryr nion that the retention olf3prrae
cert
tosr gees:. .1
In ownt countryl,
in common by all her Majesty's loyal subjects,.with due protection for their language and religion, which
andout their
opportunity would be afforded them. in carrying are the only treasures left to a nation under foreign rule,
desires. (Loud cheers.) could alone render a conscription tolerable to the popula-
d Sir G. BOWYER,
Sir G. GREY said the Sheriffs,tion '
of this country • any other will always be considered
In reply to Mr. LOCKE an being
Sheriffs of Lon- as something worse than the heaviest of misfortunes."
don and Middlesex, would continue with the procession Be had read these extracts to the house as a statement of
along the whole of its route. 6 their case by the only official element left in Poland. Well,
Mr. LOCIt
"E considered that the authorities of South- in accordance with the request of the Grand Duke Constan-
wark should have precedence in the procession. Would the tine, Count Andrew Zamoyski was asked in open day to
Lord Mayor and the civic authorities head the procession? suggest the policy which he thought best suited for the
Sir G. GREY should feel obliged if the hon. gentleman country, and nothing could be more moderate than the
would communicate with him out of the house as to the document which was drawn up in reply. For that aot of
arrangement on the day of the procession. petitioning Count Zamoyski was summoned to St. Peters-
THE LEVEE—OVERCROWDING. burg, he was exiled, and was now in banishment with his
In reply to an Hort. MEMBER, brother Ladislaus. And now he would call attention to the
Sir Ct., GREY said he bad moulted with the Lord extraordinary language addressed by the Emperor himself