The Sun.
London, England, 1863-07-22 00:00:00

ESTABLISHED CHURCH IN IR AND,

In reply to Sir H. Bnucz,
Sir It. PEEL said with regard to the re' -na connected
with the Established Church in Ireland, and which had
been moved for by Sir F. Heygate on the sth May, there
was a great deal of difficulty in obtaining them. They had
however obtained returns from the registrars of 12 dioceses

—returns for 11 other dioceses were in course of prepara-
Lon, and it was expected the whole would soon be completed.
CLOONE LOAN FUND.

In reply to Mr. W. 0. GORE,
Sir R. PEEL stated that the report relative to the Cloone
Loan Fund would be presented on Thursday next.
PROMOTION IN THE DOCKYARDS.
Mr. FERRAND asked the Secretary to the Admiralty
why the board had promoted a person named Waymouth,
lately foreman of shipwrights, at a salary of £250 a year, at
the Devonport yard, to be a timber inspector at Deptford
yard at a salary of £350, in contravention of their own order
limiting the age for promotion to 50 years, Mr. Waymouth

being upwards of 68 years of age.
Sir A. BULLER wished, before the noble lord replied,
to ask whether there was not a covenant in the indentures
of apprentices in the dockyard of Devonport entitling them
to be regularly entered and employed in one of her bla-

jesty's yards.
Lord C. PAGET, in replying to the first question, said
he was rather surprised at the assumption made by the
hon. member ; for, if he had referred to the Admiralty
regulations which had lately been moved for by himself,
he would have seen that no person was examined above a
certain age, namely, from 15 to b 5. But there were cer-
tain situations in the dockyards which were given to
persons without examination, who, though not eligible
for promotion in other respects, were deemed to be deserving
of these particular appointments. Mr. Weymouth had been
foreman in the yard, and these foremen were eligible to be-
come timber inspectors and assistant master-shipwrights.
To become assistant master•shipwrights it was necessary to
undergo an examination, because their duties required men
of high qualifications. But when a foreman possessed great
experience, and had no longer the activity to become a
master-shipwright, it was open to the authorities to give him
the appointment of timber inspector. Mr. Weymouth had
been appointed timber inspector as a reward for past services,
and it was an appointment he was capable of filling, though'
man of considerable age. The hon, member had asked if

Mr. Weymouth had been examined before his appointment
as foreman ; but he had received the appointment before
1847, when there was no regulation requiring examination.
With regard to the question whether it was intended to
bring Mr. Weymouth back to Devonport after a short time,
at the highest salary of £4OO a-year, he believed nothing of
the kind was contemplated. Now, as :to the question put
to him by the other hon. member for Devonport, he had
merely to state that in 1859, when the present Government
came into office, they found there was an Order in Council '
establishing a certain number of artificers in her Majesty's
dockyard, and giving the number at 9,621; but they found
there were 10,850 employed, or about 1,100 men above the
number specified in the Order in Council. Accordingly they
set about reducing the number to that specified, and they
did so in this way—that was to say, when vacancies occurred
they did not fill them up in the ordinary way, but employed
hired men who were not entitled to superannuation. They
found, however, that so long as the practice prevailed of
filling up the places by appointing the apprentices, it would
be impossible to reduce the number to that of the Order in
Council, and accordingly it was decided that the apprentices
when out of their time should be continuously employed as
hired men; and whenever a vacancy occurred in the regu-
lar number, if their conduct was goad, they were placed on
the establishment. The hon. member seemed to think
that there was a breach of faith with regard to the appren-
tices, but there was nothing of the kind. They were em-
ployed continuously, and taught their business, and no ap-
prentices in private yards were allowed the same advan••
tales.
THE RECENT REVIEW AT ALDERSHOTT.

In reply to Col. STUART,
The Marquis of HARTINGTON said he was happy to
state that there had been some exaggeration with reference
to the casualties which it was alleged had taken place at the
recent review at Aldershott. It so happened that Sergeant
gray, of the 7th Fusiliers, had died on the march of his
regiment to the parade ground in the morning; but, ac-
cording to the report of the surgeon, after a post-mortem
examination, the deceased had been suffering from disease
of the heart of long standing. No other man had died upon
that day. With regard to the other question of the hon.
and gallant member, he begged to inform him that, although
there was not as much accommodation as might be desired,
no more than one family was lodged in one room.