The Sun.
London, England, 1830-10-04 00:00:00

Pinto the-Mit dietinhati BritsatelS, Which dilutes
any ilishke or contempt of the Belgic people. In.
ileed, We linve stOdiously abstained, in speaking of
,
the disturbed state of the country, from every irria
fitting expression or any angry remat k, as regarded,
ether side. We certainly .denied thet the Belgians
bad any practical grievance which the. King had
shown an unwillingness to redress ; and we did this
on the hest authority—t hit of the insurgents there-
selves. The reports of the deputation both from
Brussels and Liege, which we re-published only a
few days ago, were our evils nee on thia point. As
the better class of citizens professed to take op arms
in the first instance only to protect themselves front
pillage and conflagration by 'suppressing the rioters
who had sacked and burnt the houses of a Mi-
nister and some private individuals, and as they
subsequently pretended to retain them only till cer-
tain grievances were redressed, it was natural to
imagine that when the mob had been deposed, anti
the Government brought to terms, the armed citi-
zens would surrender their banners, ribends, and
muskets, leave off military manoeuvres, and return to
their usual occupations. It was with idea, which
all the professions of the Brussels proeisional tattles.
titles perpetually held before usa—it was with the
conviction that only a small minion of them would
commence a civil war without some reasonable'
gtound of complaint,—and with the fact staring uts
in the face that the insurgent Regency hull resigned,
that the committee of public safety had lied, and
that no mats of property or influence was willing to
accept of any civil or military command in re fisting
the. King's power, that we at first Anticipated suc-
cess to the attack of Prince Frederick. That this
wee our course of reasoning, and that we could not
mean to depreciate the character of the Belgians, or
to deny the fact of their dislike to the' Dutch, is
evident from the following passage of our leading
article on Thursday se'nnight (Sept. 23), only a
few days before the attack was made;--
" If the Government, supported by the opinion of the
States•Cleneral, and calculating on the acquiescence of the
other Belgic towns, has decided on employing troops to..
restore order in Brussel!' and Liege, the majority of civic
gnarls May not be disposed to sanction the extreme de-
mantis of their more violent: leaders. We say this
without meaning any reflection on their bravery or their
patriotism. No nation in the world (with the excep-
tion of the English) have shown a stronger or a longer
attachment to liberty than the people of the Nether-
lands,—lave clung to their ancient rights with more
fondest's, or defended their independence with more cou-
rage. Their generous principles and high-minded con-
duct illustrate some of the brightest pages of European
history. Whether, under their petty yrinees—lo se-
parate provinces, or united under the House of Burgundy,
or subjected to the Spanish monarchy, or again transferred
to the head of the German empire, they have never per-
mittA-d their rulers to invade their rights nr to trample on
their franchises. Hence their early civilization and re-
markable progress in the arts—hence their commercial
wealth, and their unexampled agricultural prosperity. But
.is might to be recollected, that before time union of the
provinces, the northern or Dutch part of them were the
rival* of the south; that afterwards the United Provineei
were the tapes ions of the latter ; that the Dutch have
shown greater spirit in defending their independence than
army part of time lielgie Netherlands ; and that their prekent
King, to fir from wishing to enslave them, has done
every thing to consolidate their constitutional fr, Mom.
Why, then, should nut the 17 provinces remain united
under the House of Orange as well as tinder the sceptre of
the Dukes of Burgundy, or of the Emperor Cherie* V. ?
The Seven United Provinces, so long an important power
in the balance of Europe, are not reudered unworthy of
the renewed alliance by their greater wealth, or by the
two centuries of glory which they bring as a dowry to the
new union. The King has agreed to remove the existing
causes of annoyance; be has ditunimaed his obnoxious Nis
nister; he has done every thing that he could, as the head
emf the Executive, end promises to do every thing that he
can, as a branch of the Legislature."
The ,first time that the people of Bruesels heard
that a separation between Belgium mul Holland had
suggested itself to their leader,, WA eight days after
the original rising, and not till the'depututions had
returned from the
.Vague with a matisfactory answer
from the King. It is, therefore, most probable that
the idea did not oceur to the people at home, but
watt the inspiretion of the De ['otters, end the ene-
mies of the Orange family übroad, who had just time
to throw in the Nitric of discord, as the peace was on
the eve of condemn. It seemed therefore just,'to
imagine that the extreme dementia of the self-
eoestituted authorities in the Town-hall of Brio-
eels were not petitions of right, for which the
people would hazard their lives and
.proper,
ties. We are quite aware of the unreasoning anti
pithy Of the Belgians to the Ilollanders—stroegest;
of course, among the lower orders, who ascribed to
the Dutch Government the introduction of machinery
and the decay of torle,—and wp never could doubt
the power of such a feeling any more than the force
of gunpowder to produce an explosion should an in,
eendiary .11DeeMed In throwing a spark to kindle it ;
but the rising of the Belgian people on their Gos
vortment, because their King was a semi* Dutch,
man, no more proves that they are promoting the
cause of liberty, than the blind fury sometimes di-
rected against meelmen and corn-dettlers in a time of
scarcity proves that the best way of reducing prices
and creating plenty is to burn gra:mice antrto throw
provisions into the sea. All that con be said of the
Belgic revolution, should it succeed to the utmost,
is, that its nuthurs have displayed their national anti-
pithiest et the expence of their national tranquillity;
Chet they have released themselves from the best
Onvernment of the Continent,---not excepting even
that of France,—in the hope of a barren Mertens
deuce; and Shut, at a great sacrifice; of life, and by e
great bisect( property, they will be able to get up
some puppet, foreign or domestic, for William of
Nassau. Ardent lovers of freedom must regret that
the storm has thus passed over Ferdinend of Spain,
Miguel of Portugal, and other cereinental despots,
to fall upon the King of the'Netherlends, ,But thoir
day of retribution must come If Olfcb things can
be done in the green tree, what shall
,be done in the
dry ?" We may add the following,extrect of a pri-
vate letter from•Vilverde, era the 30th, as confirma-
tory Odle view which we took of the little resist.
mice aspecied by the Royal troops, from the popula,
don of :Brussels:—
" Ag I suppose your *tinsels correspondent is now in
full communication with you, I shall of course avoid telh-
jag thaserne story, which he has no'doubt empty detailed,
The astonishing mismanagement of time attack begears de-
seription. It is even told 118 by an anthority difficult trr
stoups, that the soldiers who first entered the town had but
six rourmilt of ball cartridge a MM. It appears incredible.
In fact,-Priuce 'Proistriek Kerins, to have been smelly sle-
reived by the iovitations held out to hint (root the ibughers
and moderate party."--- Times., • •
We gave a large pOrtien of our Saturday's ptipe
to the sub jeet of navel puniAment by dogging.'
number of letters, which We now insert, rney serve
to indicate the feelings of the'poldie with regard to
the infiletiort of the Wane VeCiehi of torture by see.
tenet of court,mertiel, am midier.r. The ease of poor
Edmonson, of the Grenadier Guards, who was .con.
demned some time back to receive WO lashes, and
who was :not brought itti for that dreadful punit,h-
ment until he bad ,already undergone three months'
confinement in a primer, hat called forth a great deal
of indignation. Now, it would be dealing dishonestly
wittethis matter, if we did not broadly awe at Once,
that Eilmonsoit deserved a most exemplary- and signal'
piiniahment. His crime was one which military die-
ciltilee mid reason itself have always recognized as of
thernOt, heinous nature, because the moot fatally,
sloop :root to the existence sk uti army,--we mean
that of a sentinel sleeping am his post,- SuPh was
rite offense of :this unfortunate individual, Every'
man who knoive how much may be at stake,
should those soldiers who are set to watch over the
safety of perhaps orate hundred thousand men so
far lose the *eerie of their awful duty as to give
wey to drowsiness, hurl ao let the .eatee, ho. Nur.
prised,- will admit that none but: the severest ChM..
USefrittfit ought to be assigned to sele.iedelis so
destructive, That the crime now errearneeir
eer
hi time of peace, as turd by cite of out cotreepon-
dents, is to us of no importance. The }titbit- of
discipline must he rigidly maintained in, peace time,
or,- when the-War Coors's upon us, it wilt hu too lari
to teach it, The objection, then,--the reesortable

ohjectioty—.-Which might be urged against the hat!.
tion of punishment in this instance, appears to us
tO be more applicable to the description of punish.
Anent then to any other of its characteristics. If it
were proposed that whether in peace or war the„
ilevping sentinel should actually sutler death, there
are perhaps few persons capable of reflection, and
not of sickly sensibility, who would not accede to
an evil so sanedened by. necessity ; but then it
must nut he death by torture. The lash fills the
mind of an Englishman with abhorrence : that
death should follow its infliction would even ren-
der it somewhat less appalling. The scourge is
infamy, as well as cruelty. It sinks into thu
soul of a warrior--it breaks down the man—

it is extinction of pride, and hope, and honour.
The physical agony is but a small part (however
dreadful) of what the wretch end►tres. Shoot him,
rather: for mercy, shoot him ! The Articles of
W►►r declare that sleeping on his post shall subject u
sentinel to death. The culprit was, in the case we
are now considering, condemned to 500 lashes : the
►eal amount of such a sentence may be inferred from

the fact that less than one-third Of the number of
lashes—viz., 155—were more than nature could
tiupport ; the poor man fainted under it,and was car-
ried to the hospital to have his black and putrid body
revivedfor a repetition of the torture Such things
eatmot go on in England : already they have remained
too long. The age is against them, and the, state of
the world, the frame of society in this land, may he
unhinged by their prolongation. Imprisonment, fa-
tigue, severe superintendence, shame, mortification
—a thousand modes of penaby may be substituted
for this degrading torment ; but it—the eat-o'-nine-
tails--:it is easy to see, will soon be dismiised by the
Legislat u re.— Times.

A press of matter has hitherto prevented -us from.
noticing the pi ocectlings of the Murquii of Exeter
at Stamford. Our readers will find in another
column an extract from the 6tan!ford News, de-,
scribing the steps which had been taken against
those: who voted for Mr. Teenyson at Stamford;
and an extract from the Stamford Mercury respect-
ing
some recent disturbances in that town. The
Howie of Commons have always affected great
jealousy as to the interference of the Peerri with the
freedom of election. Every Session opens with an
alluision to this weighty affair, and when a Peer has
been so silly as to write unguardedly on the subject
of an election, we have beard long debates in the
!louse on the violation of their most important pri-
vileges. Anti yet we have Dukes, MarqUises, and
Lords openly itisulting the people of Englund by
tilt-fling adrift all their tenants .who would not vote
for the candidate whom they pointed out to them,
The Marquis of Exeter dares •to turn the third
part of the inhabitants of Stamford out of their
houses, anti would, if he could, deprive them of
bread I The Marquis has committed the mistake of
Hying at game a little too high. for him. In the times
in which we live, an Aristocrat ought to content
himself with petty oppressions. Ile has here, un-
fortunately for himself, committed himself with a
body whose spirit and respectability will enable them
to defeat him. One of their first steps-will be to
hold a greet Town's Meeting, with a view to petition
Parliament, and they will make a beautiful exposure
of the management of the Borough. A cotitempa-
nary (the E,Ontincr), alluding try the notices served
by the Duke of Newcastle on all his tenants who
voted for Mr. Serjeant Wilde at the late Newark
election, observes that " it is not only the duty of
society to protect voters against this tyrannical
punishment, for the conscientious exercise of their
rights, but it is also the duty of society to protect
patrons di( mselves against the irritation which can
move their natures to such acts of malignity.
When, by so simple an expedient as the ballot,
provocation can be avoided, why should men of
power be depraved by resentment, or those within
the range of iniluence be exposed to suffering or
ruin for she honest discharge of their ditties to so-
ciety ?" Most assuredly there is no class of men
who are more injured by the proceedings of the
Doke of Newcastle, the Marquis of Exeter, Lout
.Iluntingtower, and the like, then Borough patrons
in general. Can unytWng tend more to fill a na-
tion with abhorrence of a system than the seeing
the population of large toyins involved in ruin, be-
cause, forsooth, they will not allow themselves to
vote for men whom, in their conscience, they be-,
lieve improper persons to represent them in Parka-
Merit ? Borough patrons are, in general, more pru-
dent than these Noblemen. But yet their greater
prodence ought not to blind us to the fact, the exer-
ciee of the elective franchise as it is called in Eng.•
land, with a few trifling exceptions, is only not a
source of misery when these who possess the fran-
chise are so corrupt and degradettas to vote as their
masters tell them, end so insoisible as not to feel
uneasy oil account of their prostitution. The educa-
tion of the people *mid be a source of misery to
theM, were it Merely to open theireyes to their de-
graded condition, without allowing them the hope of
being able to rid themselves of this bondage. Events
are working for the people. It is impossible,
we think, that tie examples of our day should fail
to produce an impression on the much-injured and
,insulted • people of England. They cannot much
longer suffer themselves to live the tools of Borough-
mongers. The 'Kent herald of Saturday last, in
noticing the communication of a correspondent,
observes, "We are glad to find, as our corres,
pondent assures us, that musty of the- lubeuring
classes understand their
.political situation; mid are
not unobservant of what is passing in France. Anti
yet, at a time when even the lowest are not tinobs
servant of what is posing abroad, several of cur
Atistocrats'have the effrontery to attempt to perpeS
trate, through the means of law, the grossest in-
justice; for the law which gives a landlord :power
over land and houses,. never contemplated that it
part of: the consideration to be given by the tenant
should be the voting for such candidates as are ac-
ceptable to the landlord. The dew knows nothing
, Of this work of iniquity ; and When Borough pa-
, teens are so imprudent as: to show by wholesale
notices to particular classes of voters that they con-
bid'''. themselves intitled to demand votes as part of
the considerution for their lands and house*, they
have to thank themselves for the consequences to
which such an exposure of the great mystery of
iniquity must inevitably lead.—.2ll:orning Chronicle.

Though it may be looked upon by some, and per-
hops jolly, as a great compliment to this country,
diet when our neiehhours era in difficultiee they uni-
formly refer to her for refuge and assistance, it
would, tieveitheless, be the height of ,folly ,were she
to lend herself to matters in which she neither can.
nor ought to have any concern, except, perhaps, as
4 Mediator. The truth is, that such applicelions,
however, are seldom or ever made bet' from dire
necessity, or the mast interested motives; 'and; as
is too often-, the case in private life, the hand whiCh
is spurned in- the hour of prosperity, is eagerly
clutched for its gold when wait or emergency
knocks at the door, Great Britain has already paid
,and is still hourly min, dearly
..for the barren'
,honour of having bean ,the banker of so many of
the States of tatrope-,-,though banker we should.
hardly call her, for that implies a previous deposit,
while her office hag been 'to satisfy inordinate de-
Mends, which she might have Met by the.
finer answer of -,' no effects." But, supposing
money is riot now their Suit, what else is it that
they require of this Country ? - Is it that we should
embroil ourselves, and waste our physical strength,
in quarrels not our own ? U.ight br wrong, what is
it to.u*, ebstrectedly, whether the King of Belgian'
agrees or disagrees with his subjects? I...east of all,
does it behove a country boasting, and justly boast-
ing itself the cradle of freedoM, to:expend either
its blood or treasure in an attempt to subdue those
who are, either really or apparently, struggling for
a share io the same blessing ? - But it is said that
we are bound by treaty to guarantee to the King of
ifolland the integrity of hittdotnittionS, These who
urge' this argetnent cautiously keep tiack the terms
of the treaty,. because they know full well that it
would not bear them out in their. interpretation of
it. The -truth is„ that all treaties must have refe-
lunge to eXtertud, not to internel causes; and if

the King of the Netherlands falls out with his
subjects, or his subjects with him, what have his
allies to do with that, or what claim can it
give him to their interference ? Such a prin-
ciple once admitted would be a guarantee of des-
potism wherever it preVailed. A Monarch would
have only to exact the most unreasonable demands,
or impose the bitterest chains upon his subjects,
and on their resisting either the one or the other,
call in his allies to assist him in his unrighteous
purpose. It was upon this mistaken view of a
right in nations to interfere with the internal regula-
tions and dissensions of each other that'Most fo-
reign wars have arisen. The melancholy. war of the
French Revolution had its rise in this mistaken
principle; and with such an example before his
eyes, and its consequences still weighing us to the
(lard), a British Statesman would be worse than in-
sane who would venture upon another crusade,
either on the one hand to crush the rising liberties
of any people, or even, on the other, to curb the
despotism of their rulers. The whole is hitherto a
domestic matter; and as, in private life, however
we may dislike our neighbour's mode of going on,
yet, as long as he keeps himself to himself, it is no
concern of ours ; so, in the case of natiom, they are
entitled to settle or unsettle their internal arrange-
ments without the interference of the Rusy-Bodies
and the Marplott of other States.—Morn. Herold.

- - -
POLICE INTELLIGENCE.

MANSION-HOUSE.

Mr. Ticknor, the CoMtnon'Councilutan, Came to
the Justice room on Saturday, 'and requested that
the Lottu MAYOR would allow him to say a few
words in reference to a statement made to his Lord-
shipon Friday, according to a report in the Tirnes.
newspaper, by Mr. Hunt, avowedly for the purpose.
of complaining of the state of Blackftiars-bridge, but
really with • the intention making a calumnious
attack upon him. Ile did not know what could be
the cause of Mr. Hunt's to him at this par -
ticular time, unless it arose from his having felt it
his duty to exhort the .Common Council to abstain
from interfering in any manner
.with -the present.
revolutionary proceedings on the Continent, while
Mr. Hunt had thought proper to adopt a different
course on Kennington Common. He could not
otherwise account for his raking up an. affair of four
years' standing. Had Mr. Hunt acted in the way
that all honourable and candid men would have
acted, by giVing him an opportunity to appear be-
fore his Lordship at the same time that he threw.
out the. imputation, or bad previously applied to him
for au explanation, it would have been but an act of
.ordinary courtesy between man and man, but that
would not have answered Mr. Hunt's purpose.--
The short explanation of the affair was, that he had
purchased some of the old paving stones of Fleet-
street, which had been sorted out as unfit to be used
again, at the price they had been sold at to
M'Adam for breaking up, and they had been used
in paving the gateway entrance and channels of his
tan-yard in Bermondsey, for which he had pitid 321.,
and which Mr. Hunt would find accounted for at
the Sewers' office. He- could not understand why
•he should he precluded from doing what - any other
man might fairly do, merely because he was one of
_ .

the CoMmon Council, and he believed that none Lui
such a mind as Mr. Hunt's would be capable ni
putting a su•picious construction upon such a cir•
cu►nstsnce.

The Loiw MAYOR said he had mentioned to Mr.
Hunt his conviction'that the conduct of Mr. Tickner
was. beyond all censure or suspicion.
Mr. Tickner put it to his Lordship and to every
candid mind whether,'for the paltry consideration of
a• feW old paving stones, a man in his station would
forfeit a character, both private anti public, us dear
to him as his life. The old material, which he had
fairly bought and paid for, could be measured and
valued as well now as it could have been on the first

day it was laid down, and 'he was quite willing to pay
for a survey by any respectable man of Mr. Hunt's
selection, and if it was found that he bad given one
farthing less than the utmost value, he was content
to sustain the whole weight of the imputation it was
attempted to fix upon him. This thing had not been
done in a corner, all the particulars were known to
5.0 persons; the old stones in question lay before his
own door for three months, and the affair was known
to the whole neighbourhood. But Mr. Hunt had
insinuated that the circumstance had an odd appear-
ance, and he (Mr. Tickner) admitted that some
people might be fastidious enough to say, that being
in a public station, it was imprudent of him to have
purchased any of this old material; but he declared
that he had no more consciousness at the time of
doing any thing urong than he had at that moment
of insulting the Lord Mayor in the seat of justice, or
of maliciously maligning the,charaeter of his fellow
UM, because of a difference of political opinion.
The LORD MAYOR listened to this explanationmi,

the most profound attention, and assured Mr. Tick-
uer that he considered no man more entitled to the
good'opinion of his fellow-citizens, or less capable of
committing any mean or culpable act.
Mr. Tickner then, after expressing a hope that his
exculpation would be made as public es the charge
had been, retired.