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London, England, 1830-02-19 00:00:00

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS -(LAST NIGHT.)

The LORD CHANCELLOR. entered the House at Ten
nnutes past Five o'clock.
Lord TORRINGTON presente I a petition from Ton-
' bridge, praying their Lordships to tike into their con-
sideration the distressed state of the country, and praying
10' a repeal of the Malt and Beer Duties. His Lordship
stated that there was great and incredible distress even is
that part of Kent which was called the garden of Kent.

The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from
• 3hiffnal, Sussex, praying the House to take into its
consideration the distressed state of the country.
The Duke of DEVONSHIRE presented a petition
from Chorley, in the West Riding of Yorkshire. praying
fur the repeal of the monopoly of the East India Com-
pany, and also relief from taxation.
Lord DARNLEY presented a petition from Clare,
King's County, Ireland, praying that their Lordships would
take into their consideration the Pour Law s of Ireland.
The Marquis of CLEVELAND moved ror an account
of lead imported and exported from the 1 t of January,
1825, to the Ist of January, 1830.
The Duke of WELLINGTON rose, in consequence of
'Rune observations which fell from the Noble Lord opposite,
the other evening, with reference to a paper which he
had read to the House at the beginninz of the Session.
Re believed that every purpose that Noble Lord had in
view would be answered by the motion I e intended
to make, which was that there be laid before
the House an account of the quantity in pounds weight of
Standard gold received in his Majesty'a Mint ; the like
Motion with reference to silver ; also, an account of the
Lank Notes in circulation from 1828 to 1829.
Lord STANHOPE considered that everyiurposc would
he answered by th tt, except showing to the House the
quantity of country notes in circulation.
• The Duke of WELLINGTON observed that the Noble
Lord had merely enquired from him front whence he
had collected the information which he bad put forth on
the first night,of the Session. Ile had produced that
document for the satisfaction of the Noble Lord, and he
had no doubt that that document would produce on the
minds of others the same impression as it bad on his Own
Lord GODERICH thought that the motion of the
Noble Duke would furnish an answer to every enquiry
upon the subject. The quantity of gold in circulation must
Always be difficult to ascertain. It was very true that a
great deal was exported, and it was equally as true that
a great deal was imported. During 1824 and 1825 the
"change was against this country, and a greit quan-
tity of coin was drawn out of the Bank of England
for tile purpose of its removal to France. At the end of
1826 the exchange altered, and the sovereigns were im-
ported back to this country to the amount of a million
anda half or two millions, in the very same casks, having
never
been opened, as they were exported in from this
ountry.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE did not attach great
importance to the Return moved by the Noble Duke. He
tPlnebended that circulation would be found to be one
thing and currency another. Before the French Revolu-
tion a most accurate examination was made by one of the
most accurate Ministers of Finance, Necker, who found that
the currency of France at that time was greater than it
was in Engl trill.
Atter some further observations, the Return moved by
the Duke of Wellington was ordered to be printed.
Mr. Cole from the Arches Court, at Canterbury, pre-
tente I papers in Shakerley's Divorce Bill, which upon the
motion of the Earl of SHAFTFSBURY was read a first time.
Mr. Danvers, from the East India House, presented an
"mint of pay and pensions granted by the East India
Company.
Mr. Holmes, from the Commissioners of the Port of
u
Pa
Arndel, presented the Fourth Report, pursuant to Act of
rliament.

GREECE.
Lord HOLLAND wished to ask the Noble Lord opposite
a question, which, to: fore the general pacification of Greece
was settled, must be of great importance to the individuals
concerned—to the Noble Lords themselves—to the Houses
of Parliament and the public at large. He addressed the
Noble Lords in the plural, b2eause he did not clearly know
from whence the instructions had originally proceeded, or
who had issued the orders which his Majesty's Admiral had
to enforce in the Mediterranean—he meant those orders
under which his Majesty's Admirals were authorised and
directed to visit all Turkish vessels, and take out of them
all Greek slaves not prisoners of war, such as women and
children, and liberate them. What he wished to ask
was, whether these instructions applied to the Island of
Candia, as well as the Morea and Negropont? He wished
also to ask what would be the effect of those orders, if the
pacification of Greece were settled, and Candia were left in
the hands of the Twit.; ? He wished to inquire whether
the Admiral was authorised to intercept vessels having
white slaves on board proceeding from Candia after the pa-
cification of Greece : and whether the Ministers had re-
voked the orders already given t 3 the Admiral in the
Mediterranean on this subject.
Earl BATHURST was the person who gave the or-
ders alluded to by the Noble Baron. As far as he recol-
lected the instructions given to the Admiral on that occa-
sion were founded on the assertion then believed to berme,
that Ibrahim Pacha had pub:ished a Proclamation in
Greece, expressing his determination to take away every
Greek from the Morea, and send him to Egypt as a slave,
and to supply the place of the Greeks by transporting
Asiatic* into the Morea. In consequence of this informa-
tion instructions were sent out to the Admiral in the Me-
terranean, to apply to Ibrahim Pacha, to know if such a
Proclamation had been issued ; and if he intended to carry
such a Proclamation into execution, to give him to un-
derstabei that measures would be taken to prevent its being
executed. An application was accordingly made to
Ibrahim Pacha, and his assn er was, that he would give
no answer ; that what he did was by order of the Sultan ;
and that to get information application must be made to
him. It was afterwards ascertained that no such Procla-
mation had been issued. At the same time instructions
were given, that should it be seriously believed that the
principle was to be acted on, the vessels were to be
searched, and Greek slaves were to he prevented from
being sent to Egypt, and Asiatics were not to be allowed to
be sent to the Morels.
Viscount GODERICH, from his recollection of the
transaction, concurred entirely with his Noble Friend.
Lord HOLLAND did not mean his question to apply
to what had been done. His question was entirely pro-
spective. He wished to know whether those coders ap-
plied to Candia as well as the Morea and Negropont, and
whether they would apply to Candia, after the pacification
nf Greece ; and if they applied to Candle, whether the
Turks would be prevented from removing the inhabitants
of that island ? With respect to the orders, as originally
given, be knew that the Admiral and the Government
had
as differed in opinion. He took the fact for granted—it
wa matter of public report. The Admiral had not put
the same interpretation on the orders as the Government,
or he had not drawn that inference from them which
te
tn,:t Government wished him. He had not carried
em into
execution, and he supposed that the Govern-
ment had now issued less ambiguous orders. He had not
!Irceal to the orders—he did not pretend to any secret
information,—but he did happen to have the orders which
Vhad been sent to the French Admiral. If the orders sent
the British Admiral were similar to those sent to the
tench Admiral, both of them were called on to interfere
and Prevent the traffic in white slaves in the Mediter-
ranean. The orders he had seen were to the effect—
'" That the Admiral should lose no time in informing
Ibrahim Pacha that he had positive orders not to allow a
tr;aheeral of such outrages ; and that if he found captives of
t description on board the vessels he visited, he should
liZer Itlearures to set them immediately and entirely at
n.l tr." That was the spirit of the order, and it was not
!4 Y the spirit, but almost the letter of the instructions
,:cenhi. by his Majesty's Government to his Majesty's Ad-
b- He wished to know whether such orders were to
e enforced.
all
h.e Duke of WELLINGTON recollected the orders
thileudh to, and believed they only referred to captives in
ioteslora. He did not believe that they applied to Can-
the T' any other part of Greece than tbe Morea. Since
d urkish troops had been removed from thence, he con-
e u
euz.aese,, letupsse orders. The circumstances under which he
Lizaired to act did not exist.
ord HOLLAND understood that these orders did not
athei Candia, and that after the pacification of Greece
by -:uuhl not ]neutral Our interference was not dictated
should rniglua as ~ but by our humanity. If it
trans ()rye to be the policy of the Ottoman Porte to
England,P "he inhabitants of Candia to Egypt or Turkey,
Pewees her example, had shown the right of the
beet,
/solve of Europe to interfere. If that were so, and the
" should avail themselves of their right, what would
avasTte of the pacification of that part of the world ?
once? not, therefore, better to have that point settled at
The 11.,
min . of WELLINGTON—It was not in conso-
se wan th had.ask__, e orders of that House, that the Noble Lord
the, " Stidt questions without any previous notice, called ['Pon the answers to by'
Pothesiem •Government to give
Pas"
ofgnertes as to what might be the conduct of the
and
, (the Duke nroPe. All that he could say was, that he
Noble Lord should
f Wellington) was quite ready, whenever the
make any motion on the subject, to