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rep to,the hrr&vs,.which the Noble Lord bad
disclaimed all intention of charging as a deficiency
of the last year,, it arose out of incidental payments
,Thr services which had always been left for provision

subsequent to the year in which they,bad been per-
formed. The sums in hand on the sth of January

of the grants of last year were 4)460,0001. It was
'not right to .bi-ing in charge against this the' Army
dna Navy Eitraordinaries, which were floating de-
mands that could not be aicertained. They QC:.

curred every year; and.probablY there would lie the
same room next year to make,thena. matter of charge
against the Noble Lord, himself. • Of the 4,000,0001:
on hand, only 1,000,0001. had been, applied to the
Navy., and that was .to- be returned : there was, in
faa, 3,000,0001. on hand above what was .6iirly to
be called for. He.accused the Noble Lord of aaing

unconstitutionally in .proposing the Ways and Means
of the year before the. House had been put in 'pos-
session Of the Army Estimates : it was }lot enough
that the money was still to, .be within the coritroul
of. Parliament : no burthens shoUld- be laid but what
Were actually called for. ' Here the Noble Lord read
a passage from Mr. Haisell's Rocik,'Which "Stated,
that it was the duty of the' Chancellor:of the Ex-
chequer to state. to the Committee of Ways and
Means the items of Supply, so as.to shew that n&-
thing more was. asked than was wanted--4hat: the
House andthe People may be sensible that no bur-
then was imposed beyond what Os necessary. How
.could this be done', when there was no idea of the
amount or. description of the - Army we were to.
haye--with respect to Which,there was nothing, be-
fOre the House but a Vague 'opinion
,f the :Noble
Lord, that• the expellee of the ArMy would .exceed
the grant of the :last year ? The Noble Lord, in faa,
Called upon the House to grant;t:B',soo,oool. for the
Army, on his word that so much would be wanting.
The grant of last year had been so great in: contem,
plation of circuinstances : that could not exist this
year. In cake of a Dissolution; there would, be no
controul of Parliament; the whole
.grant.would_ be
at the disposal of Ministers. Suppose the expellee
Of the. Army to exceed or to fall short of the Noble
Lord's opinion, would there not be the mischief either
of creating an unnecessary public charge, or a difficulty
of timmeial operation to meet the additional expellee ?
No necessity had been shewn for. having recourse to
such a novel proceeding, and one which might ulti-
mazely prove in thellighest degree injurious to the
Country. That the pecuniary distress of the Trea-
sury was not so great as to forea. Admi,nistratiOn into
the adoption of this measure, was. proved by their
having in the early part of the Negotiation for the
Loan propoSed:that.the first instalment should remain
unpaidfilf the- isthof April. He thought, that it would
have been more advantageous for the (ountry had the
Loan- not'been contra6tedfor at such an.early period,
and it would also have relieved Ministers. from the di
lemma in which they had unnecessarily involved
themselves. ;With regard to the. situation of the
Cotintry, hoWei-er arduous and distressing the,office,
of the Noble Lord Might beitind he was aware of all.
its difficulties, he could not agree in considering it in.
such a glOOmy point Of view as the Hon. Gentleman.
who had opened the debate. Compare what its was
at the close of what he must call a :glorious Ad-
ministration of his late Right
,Honourable Friend,
with what he found it. when he f rst came into
office. At that 'time 'the Taxes had- ceased 'to be
produ4ive;the conitheree and manufaEtUres of the
Country were daily dinfiniShing:' N6lg the Revenue
bad increased beyond the most :sanguine ,expeala-
ticm, and Was yearly groWing larger.....Tbe Sinking
hood was an unperishable 'Monument to that'great
man. Had it not been .established the Country
would indeed have been in a-±very' different state.
Theßevenue of the last year was 48 Millions, that of
the present in all probability would be 55 millions;
and he trusted that the period would soon arrive
when 'the Loan to be contra&ed for for the year would
amount to little more than the pioduce of the Sink-
ing. Fund. 'Rapid; indeed; -would
,be the liquida-
tion of the debt by its operation' in Peace. It was
but a just debt to the Memory of his lamented friend
to "state, that never was a system of Government so
complete in all its branches (and he contended as
natell so in its military establishment as in any other
point), handed over in so proud a Situation to ,his
successors of that of Great Britain. :This had im-
posed all additional resporisibility on those succes-
sors. It had imposed on them. the 'duty of not im-
pairing the etre& of his labours and genius by any
capricious changes; but, on the contrary, of vigour
ously prosecuting his system, and by that means
,Of
upholding the Country In his financial arrange-
ments he thought that the NOble'Lord deserved well
,of his Country for having done' so, and indeed such
was the energy and excellence of that system, that it,
was impossible forany Chancellor of the ENehequer.
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to deviate from it with safety:
Mr. V:ANSITT3RT, adverting to the opinion of
Mr. Hatsell, as quoted by the Noble Lord who:had-
just sat down, observed, that all :that -was said by
that writer was, that the WayS.and Means ought not
to exceed the Supply. The ilia now,, was, that they,
were short of the Supply ; for itwas not fair to em
brace; in the consid4atiOn of the subjed the War
Taxes, realiZed at different and distant,periods,.and
the application of which had not been detetiilined.
AS to the statement of the Military Expenditure, the
Army Estimates- for five months were befog the
House and in 1802 a precedent occurred of the
Navy Estimates not having been' presented until af-
ter the Ways and Means had been voted. He con-
cluded by describing and, 'extolling the advantageS,
Which the Country derived from the permanent
War Taxes and the, Sinking Fund.
Mr. RUSE could not agree with the Right Hon.
Gentleman, that the War Taxes should' be put out of
sight in considering this question. The produc of
the Property Tax, for instance; came
,immediately
under the
.appli.ption of the Treasury'. He could
not, therefore, but repeat What he had said when-
the first intimation of the Ways and MeanOeing to
be voted,Lbetbre the whole of the year's expendimre
had been laid before the House, was given, namely,
that it was a viohdion of a constitutional principle.
The'precedent of 1892;was of the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman's own' making.: Avery bad one it was, and
it was hardly fair to argue, that because it • had
escaped observation, it ought therefire to serve., as a
model. . However, let it pass, he,only trusted there
would be ,no repetition' of such a procealte. Ile
proceeded to take a summary view of the new Taxes,
professing himself disposed to avoid creating any (lit--
ficulty in the way of them. First in- time conhrina-
tion Of, and rendering permanent the Duty oil Wine,