The Sun.
London, England, 1830-02-23 00:00:00

FROM LLOYD'S.

DEAL, FEu►. 22.--. Wind W.S.W.—Arrived the Fame
Nl'llonald, from Buenos Ayres; .ud John, from Berbice.
Arrived from London, the Ocean, Galey, for St. Vin-
vents ; 13rankeKilloor, Thompson, 'or 13arbadoes ; St.
Arne, Mans, for Grenada ; Resource, Hood ; Nautilus,
Lindon ; and Camilla, Mutt, for Jamaica.
Lam*, FEB. 19.—The Norma, from Shetland to Li-
verpool, drove on shore on Uya sound the Bth inst., and
is full of water.

ABERDEEN, FEU. `2o.—The Helen, Levee, was got ff
the shore last night's tide, and brought into the Larbour in
a sinking state.
YARMOUTH, FEL 22.—A scloontr ii on the Barber
Land.

The Virginia, Downs, from Charleston, hip) arrived at
Livrrpool.

The Thane, of Fife, Munro; Sophia, Lathrop: and
Alexander, M'Cullitni, from bt. liiivhacra, have arrived
at Scilly.

The Esther, Foster, from St. Michael's, has arrived at
Dublin.

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS.

The debate in the House of Commons on the
Army Estimates, last night, assumed a more inte-
resting character than it could derive from any of
the calculations of political arithmetic, by rather art
animated collision between Mr. Hume and the
Right Hon. Secretary for the Home Department.
The former gentleman, in allusion to the vote for
the land forces, which amounted to 3,015,3:33/. for
the present year, and to which he had proposed an
amendment, observed, " When the House of Com-
mons acted in this way from within, force was to be
expected from without, as the only mode of obtain-
ing redress." He also stated, the " from all he
had already seen, his only hope was that the people
would take matters into their own hands ;" with
some other expressions equally forcible, which pro-
duced no slight sensation in the House. Mr. Peel
severely animadverted upon this language, arid, em-
phatically addressing the Speaker, said, " Sir,
the Hon. Gentleman has made an appeal to the
physical force of the country, under circumstances
under which I never heard an appeal of the
kind made, and which, in my opinion, reflects the
utmost discredit upon the man who can play upon
such instruments, and who, while securing himself,
can excite those whom he calls a distressed and
starving population to acts of force arid violence,
and says t I, who instigate you to rebellion' (for it
is nothing less), C I am not only safe myself from
the penalties of high treason, but I will take care to
make this appeal in a place in which ever' his Ma-
jesty's Attorney-General cannot lay hold of what 1
say.'—Why, Sir, let me ask, what would be the re
stilt of such an appeal ? Could the Government,
in that case, have any ether alternative but that of
meeting physical force with a decided, successful,
and unqualified resistance ?" After some other ex-
pressions equally strong in reprobation of Mr.
Home's language, the Right Honourable Secretary
said, " Sir, I cannot venture to trust myself
further on this subject—my feelings are really
too much excited by language of the nature
which I have heard, and I deprecate too strongly
the success of such an appeal to be able to inter
further into detail." This, it must be admitted,
was a discussion calculated to break in upon the
dullness of a finantrial debate, and disturb the repose
of those Hon. Gentlemen who enjoy their slum-
bers while the expenditure of millions is d;scussed,
and awaken to assist the public service vs ith their
votes. It must be stated that Mr. Hume di,claimed
some of the colouring which the Right Hon. Secre-
tary gave to his words, though he stated that he
would not retract any thing which he had actually
expressed. We hope no such crisis as that to which
Mr. Hume was supposed to advert will ever arise in
this country. We trust that there arc constitutional
energies sufficient to redress the grievances of the
country without any appeal to a means of renovation
more apt to destroy than to re-construet—rnore
to desolate than reform. We cannot think that
Mr. Hume meant violence by popular redress, or
that he had any intention of instigating the people
to rebellion. If Mr. Hume was chargeable with
intemperance of language, certainly Mr. Peel dis-
played any thing but that calculating coolness for
which lie has been generally distinguished, which
made Colonel Davies say that, if a total loss of
temper showed which party had the worst of the
argument, his Hon. Friend behind him (Mr. Hume)
was not one who had to lament his defeat. We
need scarcely add that Mr. Hume's amendment was
lost. In a subsequent part of the debate Mr.
Hume returned to the subject, and made a most
determined arid energetic retort upon the Right
Honourable Secretary. Ile denied the charge
of having endeavoured to excite the physical force
from without the House ; but "he would ask
that Right Honourable Gentleman, who had de-
nounced him as a violent agitator and ex-
citer of the people, whether it was lie was the agi-
tator, or the Government and that Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman, who closed their ears to the
complaints and sufferings of the people i Was
not the Government, in such a case, prompted
people to rebellion, if rebellion it could be deemed
to refuse to submit to starvation ? That starving
population, he believed, would not touch longer
bear the enormous load of taxation imposed on them
by Government and that House. As to the ques-
tion of physical force, as arrayed against excessive
taxation, the Right Hon. Gentleman knew, as well
us he, that had more than once been tried with very
serious results." He then proceeded to defend him-
self from the charge of having " sheltered himself
under the protection of the privileges of the House,
like a coward, to assert that which he dare not say
elsewhere without being implicasted in a charge of a
treasonable nature."—Thus the storm which com-
menced the first night of the Session still blows
with unabated vehemence, nor, in the present state
of things without the House, is it likely that there
will soon be a calm within.—Morning

We really do not well know to-day to what par-
ticular article in our paper we ought to direct the
attention of our readers—whether to the proceed-
iNgs in Parliament, to the Northumberland County
Meetings, or to the Meeting at the Mansion Hone ;
for all are deeply important, and we must, in conse-
quence, commend all to the careful consideration of
our readers.—To begin with the last on eta' list, the
Meeting at the Mansion-Howse, both as expressing'
the thoughts and feelings of the whole trading body
of the metropolis, and as expressing their thoughts
and feelings in the most vigorous and energetic lan--
page, was truly important, and roust tend to tlititliV
far and wide the general discontent at the present
condition of the country. All who attended the
Meeting were not only highly respectable in point of
character, but w ealthy else, and intimately con-
elected with the trade of the country. Tire spirit,
however, which pervaded it—a spirit which way
with equal vigour and
re-echoed last night in theg rcalues
t,lqce of
ouraeCob7llolNrns
it.
Hume—is still more alarming then the speechre
which were delivered at it. The discontent was
I‘eetit ig eqtraell example.
deserves the care-
The Nor-
not only general but loud, and the want of faith
in the Legislature evinced in a mower of which
we
°brecollecteii.anrd 1no previous
on of our readers. Here, too, the
dirhas voted to be not only general, but
permanent.deep ['he speech of Mr. Liddell,
above as
ful
merits a careful perusal, and we regret
that e.oarssrußrlllild:e .hmits will not permit us to give it at full
length. It is characterized throughout by greet mo-
deration and sound sense, and developes with clear-
ness and perspicuity the mischievous effects which
have resulted from the Currency Bill of ISI9.
Lastly, with regard to th eproceedings in the House
of Commons, it will be seen that several divisions
took place—all of course in favour of extravagance—
and that there was a very warm rencontre between
Mr. Peel and Mr. Hume, in which the former came
off second best. We refrain from making ;my cam-
meets at present, but cannot conclude without ce-
treating the attention of our readers to that portiun
of the debate. ..3./urninz Advertiser.