The Sun.
London, England, 1839-03-05 00:00:00

EVENING EDITION.

SECOND EDITION.

SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock.

-11),1-ill 1, PARLIAMENT.

(THIS EVENING.)

110 SE OF COMMONS.
T::e SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.

NEW MEMBER.
Mr. Picorr,' the new Member for the borough
of 'Cioranel, tookfthe oaths and his seat.
Mr. Crafer, from the Treasury, appeared at the
bar with returns, which were laid on the table.
Mr. .GREEN E brought up the Report of the Com-
mittee on petitions stating that the Standing Orders
hal begin complied with by the Birmingham and
Gloucester Railway Company, the Manchester Im-
provement Company, Preston and Wyre Railway and
Dock Company, end the Rochester Cemetery Com-
pany, and bills were ordered to be brought in for them.
BEER HOUSES.
Mr. H ALFORD presented a petition from the Ma-
gistrates of Leicester, in Quarter Sessions, praying for
a correction of the evils arising from the present system
of llser shops.
Mr. ARBURTON presented a petition from
Huddersfield, signed by upwards of 9,000 persons, in
favour of the existing beer-s:nops, and representing that
poverty and want of eduction had produced the evils
-which were often aseribrA to the influence of the beer-

alone would not make a fleet—something more was re-
quired, which the present system did not do
much towards obtaining. Ile wished to tart-
duce, if possible, that which was very witch *anted
—contentment among the officers and the men in every
ship in the service. nett *as one point which he
wished to press very strongly upon the attention of
the Board of Admiralty ; it was that no ship of
war, of whatever kind, should ever be sent
out to sea, unless shn had such a compliment of officere
and men as would enable her to meet any exigenty; On
the Ist of June, when serving in Lord Hood's ship (as
we understood) the ships had such a compliment of
men as gave 11 to every 18 pounder, and 1.3 to it Ytry
32, but at Navarino the battle was fougl,t ‘;:ith o com-
pliment which gave only 3+ mee to every 32 pounder.
He hoped that the House would give him their attn.
t: on for a few miorst'a, for the subject was one of
the verp gravest Importance.—(Hoar, hear, hear.)
He (Sir E. Codrington) pledged himself that no
officer anxious to do his duty would not prefer
the worst ships in the Navy, manY.ed as they
ought to be, to the finest ships that could be
built, manned as they were at present. With the
smaller and inferior ships, if manned with such
officers and men as used to form our Navy, he
would go into action against the half-manned
large ships with a perfect certainty of success. Much
was said about timber and stores, but they were not
much cared for in the Navy, and some of our greatest
victories had been won by ships very imperfectly stored—
when properly manned.—(Hear, hear) He would
show that there is no office under Government held
by civilians, the holders of which were not allowed
to retire with half the servitude and double the pay of
naval officers. He would just refer to the names of such
officers as Admiral Keats, who has been in a great
number of' general actions, and greatly distinguished
themselves, and who, after fifty or sixty years' ser-
vice, retired upon a half•pay of 766/. 10s. a year.
Cut of that half-pay they contributed to Greenwich
Hosaital, and to a Widows' Pension. Let Gentlemen
c mpare that with tee Pension L'st ,end with the amount
schich different Ladies received for pensions, and then
1 t Clem say whether justice was done to seamen. He
believed great disappointment had been felt in conse-
quence of certain pensions not having been considerately
reduced ; and when they found that certain pensions
were still continued without any claims whatever, and
that the widows and daughters of an Ailmiral;who had
distinguished himself for his bravery, would be only al-
lowed 1201. a-year, he thought some revision was wanted,
not only of the Pension List itrelf, but also pensions
and rewards given to Officers of the Navy. lie did not
complain oFthe amount given to others. His complaint
was, that officers of the Navy should he treated worse
than any other class of pers :us who served the Govern-
ment.—( Hear, hear.) It would appear, as though it
were a luxury to run the risk of being shot at, and it
had been said, "Oh ! but you gain honours." He
had alluded to this on a former occasion, and no doubt
honours were very pretty to look at, but there was
very little substance in them, and when a man was
called upon to pay for them, perhaps they were not so
very desirable. He thought honours ought to be
given without being asked for, and certainly without
being paid for.—( Hear, hear.) He could mention the
case of an Admiral who died a few years ago,
and whose two daughters were obliged to go to a
private charity called the Benevolent Naval Society,
and receive 23/. a year each, to keep them from starv-
ing. He would ask whether that was the way in which
the children of an admiral ought to be treated ?—(Loud
cries of " Hear, hear.") This was a question that had
nothing to do with party—(cheers)—and there was
no man, in or out of the House, that did not feel
ashamed that such a state of things should he allowed
to continue, and who would not express his willingness
to endeavour to have them remedied.—(Cries of
" Hear, hear.") Those who were in power ought
to come forward boldly, and ask for a sum o
money requisite for the purpose of meeting such cases.
He would now refer to an Admiral's full pay ; and here
he had to find fault with the mode in which it was put
down in the official documents. The Admiral's pay
and the table money was put down as the Admiral's
pay only, The table money and the Admiral's pay
ought to be kept distinct.—(Hear, hear.) The pay of
a Gear-Admiral was 1,093/. a year, and he was cer ain
that unless he was always living at sea, or lived in a
very close manner, he must spend a great deal more.
But then what had be to retire on ? He had to retire
on half-pay, 4501. a-year, so that he was expected to
save money out of 1,095/. a-year, and to live upon
450/. per annum. Then, again, the table money was
a mere pittance, and was not sufficient to enable a man
to keep an open House. He thought he had stated
ehough to show that Admirals were not paid in pro-
portion to the duties they were called upon to perform.

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the
Woolsack at five o'clock.
The Duke of BUCKINGHAM presented a petition
from a parish in Lincolnshire against any alteration in
the Corn Laws.

" Lord RALEIGH presented petitions from various
places in Essex against any alteration in the Corn-laws.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH wished to know
from the Noble Marquis opposite how soon it
was likely that the Chancellor of Ireland would
be in his place, because he had two or three cases of
interference that he considered very important to be
brought forward, but in defence to the Noble and
Learned Lord, he did not wish to bring them forward
in his absence, provided he was likely to be in his
place shortly, and provided the Noble Marquis thought
it necessary that he should be present, although
the Noble and Learned Lord had seemed to throw
the onus arising from those cases upon the Government
of Ireland rather than to take it to himself.
The Marquis of NORMANBY said that his Noble
aid Learned Mend was in possession of all the facts of
those cases, and therefore it would be desirable that he
should be present when the subject of them brought
on. He could not say with precision when he
would be here, as he was at present exercising
the office of Lord Chief Justice, though he had
intended to be here by this time.

THE SU

injunction, but it was taco late, fo':' the tilarriage had been
already sti.ettnked.le had also a petition from the
Loam of Guardians to the same effect. There was
another complaint made by the Clergy who had signed the
petition—that the marriage had been performed without
the usual notice, and in defiance of the caution
of the Vicar. He thought it w. as the ditty of t 11.16
Registrar to institnte into the diatteir'.
I.'EVr SFEAs LNG.

METROPOLiTA SI POLITICAL

UAIMA.R.Y.

The Globe, of this evening, alludier t.:l toe Naval dis-
cussions in the Commons alit says, " Fearfully have
the false and factit'f:-. accusations hurled against the Ministry
moiler! the assailants. It is now proved beyond
the possibility of gainsaying, that the present Government
has been sedulously employed in repairing the rrrott and
restoring the deficiencies in our Noy occasioned by the
blunders or the neglect of their predecessors." On the
subject of Lord Ashley's Factory Acts, our Contemporary
observes, " We think the exclusive cry against the hard-
ships of children in factories the greatest humbug that
ever was uttered."

The Courier remarks of Lord Ebrington's speech in the
Lords last night, that " it will in no respect disappoint
those who hold high opinions of his character, and form
great expectations of his mission to Ireland. It was bold
and yet temperate, worthy both of himself, his position,
and the people whom he is to govern." Alluding
to Mr. C. Wood's speech lot flight in the Commons,
on moving the Navy Estimates, the Courier says, that
" it must effectually remove from every impartial mind
whatever impression may have lingered there, that a de-
cline or falling off had taken place in any one of the ele-
ments of England's maritime superiority."
The Standard, in a violent and laboured leading article
on the subject of Lord Fortescue's speech, says of it,
" Every one must see that the defence is alike equivocat-
ing, mean, and unsatisfactory."