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THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY,-EVENING EDITION„-FEBRUARY 21, 1839

was not the proper body, having so many
cares upon their minds, to have the control
of the education of the country. Therefore on
this ground last year he brought forward his motion,
which was very fully discussed. At that time it was
permitted to him to take any course he pleased. Now
the course he intended to take was not anticipated. It
appeared there was no wish to interfere with the conscien-
tious opinions of the people. He, however, much w:shed
that such a system of education should be agreeable to
the general feelings of the people, becalseein his opinion,
this country should be the last to endeavour to force any
system. He merely said that his was the best system
and asked the Government, who would have the distri-
bution of the public money to support that sx stem. He
thought the mode of instruction in regard to religion
should be selected by the religious ministers of the
locality. He took the liberty to enter on duties
of that kind, because imputations had been thrown
out against him, or rather his objects had been im-
pugned by the Church party. A Noble Peer in the
other House, who he had seen with regret had gone
abroad to another country, thought that his desire had
been to draw the funds out of the bands of the Church.
He was gratified to find that the chief of the
party who hail the interest of the Church
much at heart agreed in such desire. He should take
the liberty at that time of distinctly stating his opinion.
He thought it right that the establishments should
support the schools wherever it was practicable.
He was satisfied that where an application had
been made by different societies, the Government
were not bound to act. He had moved for returns,
and had proved the re was a majority on the part
cf. one of these societies. Owing to certain cir-
cumstances at the commencement of the present
year, he gave. a notice with the same design, but
he found by the statement of the Noble Lord,
that the subject had gained the attention of Minister=,
who appeared now disposed to enquire into the subject.
He had found that attention had been paid to what
he had said, and that there was a willingness to adopt
his resolutions in their fulle t exti nt, to supply the
deficiency of Irish Education, which arose from the
fact that they had been put forward by a simple re-
commendation and not by an act of the State.
The time would shortly arrive when the Estimates
coming before the House would give an opportunity of
seeing whether or not the Government lied come to a
right conclusion. Not feeling himself justified.in calling for
a division or a discussion on the subject he would with-
draw his motion until the estimates were brOught before
the House:
The SPEAKER observed that the course pursued
by the Hon. Member was most inconvenient, because
he had made a long speech, when there was no question
before the House.
Mr. HUME wished to ask the Noble Lord at the
head of the Horne Department whether it was the in-
tention of the Government to bring in a Bill for the
general recovery of mall debts ?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that it was his inten-
tion to bring in a Bill upon the sultect shortly. He
trusted, therefore, that Hon. Members would not give
any opinion or votes upon separate Bills until they had
had an opportunity of considering whether the Bill he
intended to introduce would not answer all purposes. ,
Mr. HUME moved for copies or extracts of any cor-
respondence received from Nova Scotia, New Bruns-
wick, Prince Edward's Island, and Newfoundland, rela-
tive to the constitution of the Legislature and Executive
Councils of the Governments of those colonies, or to
their being made elective, or to any change that has
been required by any branch of the Legislature of
those colonies, to be made to the said Councils within
the last eight years ; also to any change that has been
made ;or directed to be made, in them, or in any mode
of appointing new members of the said Councils.—
Ordered.
Mr. HUME moved for copies of the Lists of Fees
recommended by the Secretary of State for the Home
Department to be adopted and sanctioned by Town
Councils. Return of the amount of Fees received by
the Clerk of the Magistrates, the Town Clerk, and the
Clerk of the Peace, in each city and borough in Eng-
land and Wales (except in the City of London) in each
of the years 1837 and 1838.—Ordered.
Mr. HUME moved for a return of the Public Re-
venue received in Upper Canada, in each of' the year's
1833, 1834, 1835, 1836, 1837, and 1838, in respect of
casual and territorial Revenue ; Duties under the Im-
perial Act 14 Geo. 3, c. 88 ; under the Provincial Act,
33 Geo. 3 ; under the Provincial Act 35 Geo. 3 ; un-
der the Provincial Act 41 Geo. 3 ; under the Provin-
cial Act .53 and 55 Geo. 3 ; in respect of the tolls at
the Burlington Bay Canal and Kettle Creek Harbour,
and from other sources":—Also a Statement of the
amount of the Public Debt of the Province in each
year, and of what description. Alio, the expenditure
of the Province of Upper Canada, during the year:
1833, 1834, 1835, 1836, 1837, and 1838, made out
under the same heads of expenditure as the Estimate
of Public Expenditure annually submitted to the House
of Assembly of Upper Canada. Also, the Public Ex-
penditure of the Province of Lower Canada, during the
years 1833, 1834, 1835, 1836, 1837, and 1838, made
out under the usual general heads of expenditure ; and
the amount and nature of the Public Debt of the Pro.
vince in each of those years.--Ordered.
Mr. HUME moved for a return of the names of per-
sons imprisoned in Lower Canada charged with treason,
or offences of a treasonable nature, since the Ist day of
November, 1837, their trade or profession, the day of
the commencement of their imprisonment, the date of
their discharge, the amount of bail or personal security
demanded and given, and if tried, by what tribunal tried,
and-the sentence passed upon them, and if sentence of
death passed whether executed or commuted, and it
commuted the commutation of the punishment.—A si-
milar return for Upper Canada.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL suggested that 'this mo-
tion should be postponed.
Mr. HUME said that it was essential these docu-
ments should, be laid upon the table, before the dis-
cussion 'on the Canada question came on. Would the
Noble Lord name a day.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL.—Tuesday next.
Mr. HUME moved for copies of the ordinances
passed by the Special Council and Governor of Canada,
since the 24th day of November 1838.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said there were a great
number of those documents already on the table.
Mr. HUME said the object of his motion was to
complete the ordinances, and he would insert the words
except those already presented."
Colonel SIBTHORP said that all the papers re-
lating to Canada ought to be laid before the House ;
and he did not know why there should be a disposition on
the part of the Noble Lord to postpone the motion till
Tuesday. He (Colonel Sibthorp) hoped the Hon.
Member would persist in moving for these returns.
The return waS then agreed to.
Mr. HUME then moved for a return of the Report
of the Commissioners appointed in Lower Canada, under
an Ordinance of 1 Vic. c. 7, to inquire into the losses sus-
tained during the late rebellion ; also, of the names of
persons who claimed compensation before the said
Commissioners, and the amount of their claims.
He considered this return very important. It would
show the expenses incurred by the military intervention
in Canada, and the necessity of a speedy return to the
regular and civil Administration.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL assented to the return.
Mr. C. BULLER said these Commissioners were
appointed by Sir J. Colborne to inquire into the losses
sustained by the Loyalists during the rebellion.
Surely his Honourable Friend coud not have un-
derstood. They had made very little progress, having
been interrupted in their inquiries as to the first rebel-
lion, by the occurrence of the second ; and the return
would consist of nothing but a few cases, wholly unin-
telligible to the House.
Mr. HUME wondered that his Hon. Friend should
think that the Commissioners could have made no pro.
gress since he left Canada.
Mr. BULLER replied he had said no such thing,
and he had expressly itated that the reason the Coin-
missionemhad.not made more progress was that they
had been interrupted by the second rebellion, they had
in fact to sit in a village occupied by armed rebels.
The Return was then agreed to and the House
adjourned.

The paragraph stating that there had been a fall
of a considerable part of the Shakspcare Cliff; near Dover, and that
a skeleton had been found there, is officially contradicted.

LORD DURHAM'S It HREAT.—When Lord
Durham, in reply to the Earl of Wind Uses, threatened last night
in the House of Lords to bring forward a motion of inquiry into
the caseofeyery individual who h rd received official employment after
having been legally convicted of adultery, many of their Lordships
were observed to cast at each other glances of singular sheepishness and
perplexity. One Noble Lord in particular turned exceedingly pale,
and shifted about in his seat, evidently in a state of high nervous
excitement. Of course, he was only apprehensive of the diastrous
effects that such an inquiry would have on his sense of modesty !
The Bishops, too, appeared not a little discomposed ; but of course,
the same laudable feelings were at work also in the breasts of these
ghostly men.
In the line of the Bristol and Exeter Railway, at
Long Ashton, the foundation of the wall of an ancient village,
about a quarter of a mile in extent, has been discovered. Numerous
coins of Constantine and Severus have been dug up; and a'so
numerous domestic utensils.—Manchoter Journal.
The Anti-Corn-law Dele:.Tates fearing lest a re-
solution proposed by Mr. Baines,—" That the warmest thanks of
the Delegates be presented to Lord Brougham for his admirable,
unanswered, and unanswerable speech in the House of Lords, in
support of hearing evidence at the bar on the injurious effects of the
Umi-laws,'' might be construed into a recognition of his Lordship as
the leader of the Anti-Corn-law agitation, agreed, with one dis.
sentient voice, to insert the word unsolicited after unanswerable.
This course does not appear to us to be dictated by absolute wisdom.
They have obtained an admirable, unanswered, and unanswerable
speech ; and if unsolicited, so much the more meritorious on the
part of the speaker. It would almost appear as if the Delegates are
afraid est they should have too much support. Surely they ought
to feel that they have not a friend whom they can afford to lose.--
Morning Chronicle.
It is rumoured that a literary gentleman who has
made many attempts,to get into Parliament, and at last succeeded in
the capital of one of the southern counties, will mart y the widow
of his late colleague, as soon as the period of a year from his decease
will allow of the performance of the nuptial ceremony.
HINT TO CAB AND OMNIBUS DRIVERS,—
In Russia, if 4 carriage it driven over any person and hurts him,
whatever may be the merits of the case, the horses are forfeited to
the Crown, and the driver, if a Russian peasant, is sentenced to be a
so!dier.

HADDING ON COUNTY

MEETING:

Last Friday, a public meeting of the nobility, "gentry,
farmers, and others mterested in agriculture in the county
of East Lothian, was held in the Assembly Rivals, Had.
dington. pursuant to requisition, to consider the propriety
of petitioning Parliament iu favour of the present system of
Corn-laws, There were present Lord Maitland ; Hun
Gen. P. Stewart : Sir John Hall of Dunglass, Bart. ; Sir
G. Grant Suttie, Bart. ; Sir David Kinloch, Bart. ; Sir
George Warrender, Bart. ; Sir Robert Houstoun, Bart. ;
Captain Walker Drummond, vr. of Hawthornden ; Capt.
Hay of Hopes; Mr. Burn Callender; Mr. Anderson of
St. Germains ; Mr. Fletcher of Saltoun ; Captain Hay
of Belton; Mr. Aitchison of Alderston ; Mr. Hamilton of
Ninewalls ; Mr. Sheriff Substitute Riddell ; Rev. Mr,
Cook of Haddington ; Mr. Hay Newton of Newtonhall ;
Mr. Charles Stewart; Mr. Hay of Linplum ; Mr. Hal-
dane of Haddington ; Mr. Sprott of Spott, &c.
Lord MAITLAND having been called to the Chair, said
Mr. Villiers having given notice of a motion to hear evi-
dence at the bar of the House of Commons on the subject
of the Corn-laws, it was thought fit that the county of East
Lothian should come forward and set an example to the
other counties of Scotland. As to the subject itself, it
would not, perhaps, be becoming in him to enter upon the
snbject at at any length, as that task would be more befit.
ting those gentlemen who are to move the resolutions.—
(Cheers.)
Sir GEORGE WARRENDER then rose and said.:—My name
was not affixed to the requisition whieli called you together,
because I have had the misfortune, on many occasions, to
differ from the almost unanimous opinion of the county on
the important subject which has called us together; and as
I was suffering from iudispesition, I was afraid I should
be prevented from addressing you. But I afterwards de-
termined, at all hazards, to be present to-day, that I might
wi•ness the triumph of these enlightened commercial
principles which I learned from a lamented statesman,
whose confidence and friendship I enjoyed up to the hour
which caused his irreparable loss to his county. You n,ust
all perceive that I allude to Mr. Huskisson. Since I have
come here a series of resolutions has been put into my
hands, in the concocting of which I had no share, but I am
free to confess that I concur entirely in the sentiments of
those resolutions; and I must also own, that if I had been
at the greatest pains for several weeks together, I am
sure I could have produced nothing more satisfactory
to my own mind than those that have been put into rev
hands •by the gentlemen who prepared them. It so
happens that these resolutions concur iu and applaud
that system of Corn-laws which was prepared by Mr.
Huskisson, and laid before Parliament, in the year 1827,
which at that time this country did not concur in.
—(Cheers.) It is unnecessary for me to enter into the
details of this question, especially before a meeting of
agricultural men, many of whom understand the ques-
tion much better than I can be supposed to do ; but I may
observe, that the great advantage of these laws was to
afford protection to agriculture. During four, years of the
period that they have been in operation, the prices of grain
have been low, but that has not prevented agriculture from
being eminently improved throughout the country, and
nowhere more than in this county where we are now met.
But all these improvements were effected under the sanc-
tion and by means of the command which the present laws
give the agriculturists of the home market; so that though
the price of grain did not exceed 465. per quarter, yet
these improvements enabled the agriculturist to meet the
deficiency by increasing the quantity of land brought under
cnitivation. These improvements have all been effected
under the present system of Corn-laws ; but if you abolish
them, and admit corn duty free, these improvements will be
put an end to ; and then how are you to avert the calamities
which a bad harvest would bring upon the country ?
( Hear.) During the first ten years that the system has
been in operation—that is from 1827 to 1837—1 find'
that there had been an active, sound, progressive increase
in the manufactures of the country, rising gradually from
year to year till they arrived in 1837 at a sum ex6eed-
ing by upwards of twenty millions sterling, the exports
of manufactured goods in 1827. The average exports
of the three last years of this period, that is, of 1834
1835, and 1836, above that of the three first years of
the operation of these laws was 10,851,1181. That in-
crease and prosperity has not been confined to any one
branch of our manufactures. It was spread over the cotton,
cotton twist, hardware, linens, woollens, &c. The cotton
manufacture alone shows an increase of more than three
millions in that period. I may also allude to the shipping
interest ; and to give you an idea of the prosperity exist-
ing in that interest, the increase of the year 1836 over that
of 1835, was 164,648 tons inwards ; and 241,476 tons
outwards; which last item necessarily shows what a vast
exportation there has been from this country in manufac-
tured goods. I ought not to omit to state, that these facts
are all taken from Parliamentary documents, from the offi-
cial returns. But besides this documentary evidence, I-am
able to refer to oral evidence of equally high testimony with
these documents. Mr. Wood, a gentleman of high repo.
taton in the commercial world, the President of the Cham-
ber of Commerce at Manchester, stated lately in his place
in Parliament that the improvements of 1838 had exceeded
the average of the preceding four years by upwards of three
millions. For these reasons it is clear tome that the manufee.
furors are prospering under the present system of the Corn-
laws ; and on that ground I at present adhere to them.
Here Sir George referred to some of the speeches at Man-
chester as taking this view of the subject; he also referred
to Mr. 111`Laren's speech in Edinburgh, as stating that one
effect of the abolition of the Corn-laws would be to reduce
the mica of labour to some extent. The Bon. Baronet
concluded by proposing a series of resolution=, expressing
the satisfaction of the meeting with the present system of
Corn-laws, and deprecating the Sits mpts now making to
repeal.-them.

Mr. BRODIE, of Amisfield Mains, seconded the resolution.
Sir GEORGE GRANT SUTTIE concurred in the resolutions
to a certain extent—that was to say. in the first place. that
protection was necessary to agriculture; and, in the second
place, that a graduated scale of duty was best fitted for the
purpose. At the-same time he did not concur inall the rea.
sons advanced to aupport those principles. An argument ad-
vanced on behaif of protecting native agriculture WaS, that the
overwhelming majority of the population were engaged in it.
Now, it appeared to him that the strongest argument for
protecting agricillture was the smallness of the population
engaged in it, as compared with that portion of the popu-
lation engaged in manufactures and commerce: It ought
also to be remembered, as a reason for protection, that
manual labour was employed in agriculture to a far greater
extent than in manufactures; the farmer could not employ
the steam-engine nearly to the same extent as the manu-
facturer could. But though there were portions of the
resolutions which were not so distinctly expressed as he
could wish, yet as he concurred in their sentiments gene-
rally, he would not oppose them.-4 Hear.)
Captain Wat.xxe DRUMMOND, Jun ,of Hawthornden,
said, on this occasion it becomes the duty of every person
connected with the landed interest to come forward, to ex-
press his strong dissent from the attempts that are now
making to disturb the existing system of the Corn-laws.
After referring at some length to the operation of the pre-
sent system of Corn-laws, Captain Drummond proceeded
—I do not mean to enter into any political argument at
this meeting, where it is desirable that unanimity should
prevail ; but as we arc about to present a petition to the
Legieature, praying for protection, it is essentially neces.
sary that we should look forward to see what reception we
may meet with from the Government ; and, locking to
Lord Melbourne, I think we have not much to expect
from him. The fact appears to me that almost even br.-
portant question is made open, except one—the question
of retaining their places ; and God knows that is close
enough.

5.2: GEORGE GRANT SUTTIE rose to order. If Mr.
Drummond was allowed to introduce politics into the dis-
elusion, he must beg to be heard in reply.
The resolutions were then unanimously agreed to.
Mr. B. CALLENDER moved that a petition, fitunded on
the resolutions, should be prepared, and, after receiving
signatures, be presented to the House of Lords by the
Marquis of Tweeddale, and to the House of Commons 134
Sir J. Buchan Hepburn.

On the motion of Sir DAVID KINLOCH thanks were voted
to Lord Maitland for his Conduct iu the chair, after which
:he meeting separated.

NEW WORK BY THE HON. MRS. SAYERS.-
We are requested to itate that the New Work by the lion. Mrs,
Sayers, entitled " Henry Acton," and other Tales, is this day pub

lished by _Messrs. Saunders and Otley, Public Library, Conduit-
street. Also, " Waking Dreams," a series of Iridi Tales, by C. M. J.,
with Illustrations by the Author. Mrs. Jameson's " Winter Studies
and Summer Rambles in Canada." " Janet; or, a Glance at Human
Nature," by the author of " Misrepresentation." The " Anonymous
Letters." The " Lost Evidence," by Miss Burdon, and " Mr.
Lodge's Peerage," with the Arms of the Peers, beautifully engraved
and incorporated with the Text.

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treatises,
of which several thousand copies have been disposed of in &short
period, viz. :-1. Plain Instructions for Every Person to Make a
Will, with an Abstract of the New Act, and a Chapter of Advice to
Foreigners in England and British Residents Abroad, price 25.-2,
Plain Guide to Executors and Administrators, with a New Chapter
for Guardians, price 2s. 6d.-3. Plain Laws of Wills and Executors,
in one volume, 45.--4. Plain Advice to Landlords, Tenants, Lodging
House-keepers, and Lodgers, 11.-5. Law of Master and Servant, Is,
—6. All the Assessed Taxes, Stamp Duties, with Instructions as to
Appeals, Abstracts of New Acts, &c., Is. 6d.-7. The Family Law
Adviser and Useful Manual, comprising all the above, 7s.
STRANGERS' FRIEND'S SOCIETY.—On Sun-
day last a Sermon was preached for the benefit of this Institution,
at the Church of St. Sepulchre, Skinner.street, by the Rev. a
Melvill, BD. The Right Hon. the Lord Mayor, accompanied by
the Sheriff's and Under Sheriff's, attended on the occasion. After
service a liberal collection was made, the result of which showed
that t the forcible appeal made to the congregation present in aid of
this useful charity was not in vain. Among the numerous insti-
tutiona which adorn our country, there are none which are mare
allow, At
to the patronage and liberal support of humanity and true
Christian philanthropy than the " Strangers' Friend Society,"
Which has been in active operation for the last 53 years. Upwards
of 500 gratuitous agents are constantly employed in searching out
misery in the garret, and starvation in the cellar; administering
consolation :rid support according as the funds of the society will
At any time, but especially at this season of the year, would
we recommend the claims of this institution to the benevolent
public,

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An old woman of the
.well. acquainted with this
onameodtrad
elfman:sy Christianwho
o predeceased
suPl'osed to be nearly 90 years of age, died at Cample Mill, parish
of Closeburn, on the 4th instant. Her illation name was Kilpatrick;
but when in the bloom of youth she married a mason of the name
of Fri„t,
her
manyaymeaarlof iTndheustproyetanßduarngs
was
female, and frequently expressed his admiration of her powers as a
vocalist. Her voice was at once powerful and sweet, arid the poet
u", 3 so much delighted with her " wood.notes wild," that he very
rarely visited Closeburn without calling at the High Tree, where the
deceased and her husband then resided. With ballad literature she
was extensively acquainted ; her memory, too, was strong, and her
conversation generally inteligent. Burns sent her copies of nearly
all his own songs, and these she either chaunted to him or drew
from her own exhaustless stores of melody. " Highland Mary"
and " Allan Water" were at all times favourites with the bard, and
he frequently said to friends and neighbours, that no one could do
there greater justice, not even" bonny Jean" herself, than Christian
Kilpatrick.—Dumfries Courier.
The police officers of Ireland are composed of
64 sti • pendiary magistrates, 25ft chief constables, and 18 paymasters
The Irish coast guard musters 42 inspectors and commanders, and.
169 chief officers. The Irish revenue police is increased to 24
inspectors and sub-inspectors, and 71 lieutenants and sub-officers.

IM: ORTANTT 0 PUBLISHERS.

Between three and four months ago, several news-
.venders and others in the Worship-street district were
summoned before the Magistrates upon information laid
against ihcm by a common informer named Stow,ll, for
soil u' onn:hcrs of a periodical public:Aion called Clf,
" Cabicet," which had not the /minter's rawe an.i ..d-
-dress printed upon the first page, as well as the las:
page, as required by a clause in the Printers Act. The
Magistrates bad evinced mach reluctance to receive th,
informations, but a case had been submitted to the At-
torney-General, whose written opinion was produced,
to the effect that he could not advise Magistrates to
dismiss such informations as were clearly made out, al-
though he considered them " most scandalous." All
the defendants, therefore, against whom the publica-
tion was proved, were convicted in the lowest penalty
of five pounds.

One of the defendants who paid the penalty under
warrant of distress, was Mr. Fielding, a newsvender in
Old-street-road : but he afterwards attended at IVor-
ship-street,. and proved that although he had paid the
W. and costs to avoid a seizure of his goods, he had
previously paid 11. 13s. to the informer to compromise
the case. He asserted that the Magistrate himself
( Mr. Codd) had sanctioned that 'proceeding ; notwith-
standing which, however, a distress warrant was after-
wards issued against him. Mr. Codd said that he had
been 'misunderstood. He had told the informer when
he spoke of having a very large number of such informa-
tions ready that he ought to be satisfied with his costs ;
but where convictions took place it was. not in his power
to prevent the law from taking its course. The in-
former afterwards refunded the 11. 13s. at Worship-
street. In the meantime Mr. Fielding applied to the
Secretary of State on the subject, and has since re-
ceived the following letter in answer to his applica-