The Sun.
London, England, 1863-06-09 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING}, JUNO; 9, 1863.

The Bishop of Winchester wee the only member of the
episcopal bench that voted for the bill.
THAMES EMBANKMENT (NORTH SIDE) BILL.
This bill was read a second.

BAKEHOUSE REGULATIONS BILL.
This bill was passed through committee.
SALMON FISHERIES (SCOTLAND) ACT CON-
TINUANCE BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
Their lordships adjourned at a quarter to 9 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—Last Evening,
The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.
SECOND READINGS.

The following bills were read a second time :—Dulas
Valley Mineral. Railway, Law Life Assurance Society, Oke-
hampton and Lidford Junction Railway, and Wicklow Cop-
per and Hibernian Mines Companies.
ROYAL ASSENT.

At 5 minutes after 4 o'clock the Deputy Usher of the
Black Rod appeared at the table and summoned the
Speaker and the house to hear the Royal Assent given by
commission to several bills. The Speaker returned at 25
minutes after 4 o'clock.
SEA FISHERIES,

Sir G. GREY brought up the reply of her Majesty to the
address agreed to the other evening praying for the appoint-
ment of a Royal commission to inquire into these fisheries
Her Majesty desired to inform the house that she had
directed the appointment of a Royal commission. (Hear.)

minority of to. day would shortlybc converted into an over-
whelming majority. (Cheers.)
Mr. G. DUFF said there was only one way of settling
the question, and thst was the way adopted in every capital
of the world except Edinburgh. For the sake of peace and
quietness they were bound to open the gardens. (Hear,
hear.)

Mr. BLACK, while opposing the motion, said ho would
offer:no apology for the opprobrious language used by the
clergy of Scotland on the question.

A. 6. A. KINNAIRD condemned the application of the
term "frantic divine " to Dr. Candlish—(laughter)—and
likewise opposed the motion.

Major HAMILTON, as a resident of Edinburgh, pro-
nounced the opinion of the inhabitants, both high and low,
to be against the proposal.
Mr. SCULLY supported the motion.

Lord PALMERSTON said : If I was to act up to my
own opinions with respect to the merits of the question
itself, I should support the motion of the hon. member for
Galway—(loud cheers)—bccause in the abstract I can see
no harm, but rather good—(renewed cheers)—in doing that
in Edinburgh which has been done in so many other capi-
tals, that is to say, in opening places, be they ever so small
or ever so large, for public recreation. (Cheers.) But upon
the present occasion there is another consideration to which
we are bound to attend, namely, to that which is the sincere
and honest feeling of the people of Scotland. (Hear, hear.)
Now, I hold that we ought not without some very grave
and important reason to do violence to public feeling ; and
that public feeling in Scotland is against the opening of
these gardens on Sunday evenings is, I think, an indisput-
able fact. (Hear, hear.)
The house divided. The numbers were—
For the motion .. 107
Against it
Majority
—l6

VOLUNTEER ENGINEER FORCE.
Mr. PEACOCKE called attention to the circumstance
that when he asked a question the other night upon this
subject, the noble lord the Under-Secretary for War con-
tented himself by replying that the question must have been
asked in ignorance of a circular that had been issued to the
commanding officer of every volunteer force in the kindgom.
He had now ascertained that no such circular had been re-
ceived by the commanding officer of the corps in whose in-
terest he asked the question, and he hoped that next time
the noble lord answered a question in that manner he would
have the courtesy to reflect that the " ignorance" he im-
puted might be owing to the lathes of the officials in his
own department,
The Marquis of HARTINGTON said that, as he had
only had notice this afternoon of the hon. gentleman's ques-
tion, he had not had an opportunity of ascertaining why
the circular to which he alluded had not reached its desti-
nation.

The house then went into committee of
SUPPLY.

A vote was taken for £B,OOO (balance of £10,000) for the
new Record buildings, Dublin.
A sum of £BOO was voted for a monument to Sir John
Franklin.

Upon the vote of £6,000 on account of the lions for the
Nelson column,

Sir M. W. RIDLEY said that, with all respect for the
talents of Sir Edwin Landseer, he could not help thinking
that when it required so many years to produce a model
of the lions, it must have been an error to entrust the
sculpture to a painter, no sculptor being employed.

Mr. COWPER said it was a fact that Sir E. Landseer
was preparing the models with his own hands, and was
alone responsible for them. He had urged Sir E. Landseer
to expedition in every possible way.
Mr. STIRLING defended the appointment of Sir E.
Landseer.

➢lr. HANKEY complained of the delay in the produc•
tion of the models.

Sir J. SHELLEY said he believed the £6,000 asked for
would not pay half the expense. The bronze alone would
amount to that sum.

Mr, WILLIAMS censured the whole arrangement as a
disgrace to the country. _ _

Mr. COWPER (in reply to Mr. Mitford) stated that the
lions would be 20 feet long, and of two patterns, and that
he had intimated that no further delay could be permitted.
The vote was then agreed to.

Upon the vote of £31,914 for lighthouses abroad,
Mr. CHILDERS objected to the item of £B,OOO for a
floating lighthouse off the Bassin Rocks, in the Island of
Ceylon. The house would hardly believe that the first esti-
mate for that lighthouse had been but 4500 ; that on sub-
sequent occasions no less than £54,000 had been taken in
supplementary votes—(hear)—that to this hour the light-
house had never been made---(hear)—that in 1861 £B,OOO
more had been voted for a floatiog light ; that in 1862 an-
other £2,000 had been voted ; and, after all, nothing having
been effected, the house was now asked for another £B,OOO
for another floating light scheme. (Hear.) He thought
there ought to be some limit to this kind of expenditure,
and, as he believed, £B,OOO would not nearly complete the
works proposed, he would move the formal reduction of the
vote by that amount ; so that (seeing a lighthouse of some
kind was no doubt necessary) the Government might pro-
pose a vote which should include the entire outlay.
Mr. A. SMITH supported the motion for the reduction.

Mr. M. GIBSON admitted that much money had been
wasted, but it was in consequence of the mistakes of the
engineers. The lightship had been ordered, and, whether
it proved successful or not, should be paid for.
An Hon. Member moved that the house be counted, and
there not being 40 members present,
The house stood adjourned at a quarter past 8 o'clock,

turned a verdict of " Wilful murder against some
person or persons unknown."
Among the magistrates at the inquest were Lord
Dunally, Sir William Osborne, Count D'Alten,
Major Dundas, Captain Holmes, Messrs. Going,
Poe, Middleton, &c., with Mr. Fleming, resident
magistrate. The magistrates held a meeting in the
court-house at Nenagh, at four o'clock the same
day, when they agreed to offer a reward for the
discovery of the murderer, and subscriptions for
that purpose, amounting to £5OO, were announced
before the meeting broke up. The steward of the
murdered gentleman, a man named Madden, and
his son have been arrested since the inquest. The
Freeman's reporter supplies the following addi-
tional particulars ;—" At the inquest some mem-
bers of the jury expressed a wish to have Madden
examined, but Mr. Anderson, the county inspector,
declined. He was not examined, and after the
inquest Mr. Reamsbottom, sub-inspector, and the
head constable took Madden into custody, and de-
sired him to conduct them to his room. He did so
without any apparent disinclination, and a close
search was made of the apartment. In a small
wooden box Mr. Reamsbottom found £lO3 10s.,
consisting of £OB in notes, four sovereigns and a
half, and one pound in silver. He was brought into
town last evening by a strong escort of police, and
lodged in the county gaol. Madden also held land
under Mr. Jackson, and is said to be also in arrear.
At a late hour last evening a son of Madden's was
taken into custody, and committed to gaol, being
the sixth person now under arrest. The cause of
his detention is that on the evoeing of the murder
he was seen drinking at a publiehouse in company
with one of the Peters, and their conversation on
that occasion was so remarkable as to attract the
notice of several persons in the place, some of whom
remarked that they seemed as if they had been
after doing "something desperate."
Another murder, not less atrocious, is reported by
a correspondent of the Daily Express :—" On Wed-
nesday, about the hour of 9 o'clock, a woman named
Butler missed her daughter, a little girl of seven
years of age, who had just partaken of her supper.
The mother supposed she might have strayed into
the plantations of Mr. Burn, of Corville, near Ros-
crea, and spent the night searching for her, On
the following morning the child was found in a
tillage-field quite dead, her face and skull literally
smashed to pieces, and some stones besmeared with
blood lying near. No cause whatever can be as-
signed for the gross outrage. The police are on the
alert. Suspicion has fallen upon an idiotic boy."