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ters,ifor we have done everything in our power to allay and
to heal. I have no disposition to throw imputations on
any man—hut this I will say, that if the Ministers had
been zealously supported, instead of being looked coolly
upon—not to say thwarted in some quarters—that country
would now have been in a very different situation. The
Noble Viscount and the Noble Duke opposite spoke of the
poverty of that country. No man is more sensible of the
poverty of that country, and the danger to be apprehended
from the condition of the lower orders in that respect, than
he who has now the honour to address your Lordship~, 13u:
to talk ir. that manner is not the way to tranquillize the
country. If they mean to set about seriously exerting them-
selves to tranquillize the country, thl must change their
plan. Let the Nobility and higher gentry connected with
Ireland reside more in that country and spend their incomes
there, and then the people of Ireland will have less reason
to complain of poverty, fur I will venture to tell them,
that their residence in Ireland and the spending of their
incomes derived from their fortunes there, will be one of
the most effective remedies for the evil.—(Cheering.)—
The state of the public mind in some parts of thistoun-
try has certainly given me the greatest pain--I allude
particularly to what has been passing in the county of
Kent, and I agree with the Noble Marquis. the Lord
Lieutenant of the County, that the disturbances do not
owe their origin entirely to the distressed condition of the
peasantry and manufacturers. From all that I have
heard, it appears to me that these disturbances are
carried on by two different sets of people—some breaking
machines, which, as they imagine, interfere with their
labour and their wages ; while others, from other bad
motives, employ themselves in the destruction of other
kinds of property. As to what were the immediate causes
of the disturbances, the Government know no more than
the Gentlemen and Magistrates of the County, and it was
willing to lend ;them every possible assistance to put an
end to these outrages. And this leads me to advert to
the recommendation of the Noble Earl to prepare against
the evils that might threaten from abroad, by promoting
contentment and tranquillity at home ; anti undoubtedly
it was the duty of Government to do so by every prosier
and reasonable expedient to which it might be in their
power to resort. But then the, Noble Earl had recom-
mended the expedient of Parliamentary Reform, and re-
marked that he did not think that the Government was as
yet prepared with any plan on the subject. The Noble
Earl was right, for certainly the GovernMent was not pre-
pared with any ohm fur Parliamentary Reform. I will go
further, and say that I never heard that any country
ever bad a more improved, or more satisfactory re-
presentation than this country enjoys at this moment.
I do not mean to enter upon that subject now, as it is pro-
bable that we shall have abundant opportunities to con-
rider it afterwards ; but I do say that this country has now
a Legislature more calculated to answer all the purposes of
a good Legislature than any other that can well be devised
—that it possesses, and deservedly possesses, the confidence
of the country, and that its discussions have a powerful in-
fluence in the country. And I will say further, that if I
had to form a Legislature, I would create one—not equal
in excellence to the present, for that I could not expect to
be able to do, but something as nearly of the tame descrip-
tion as possible.. I should form it of men possessed of a
very large roportion of the property of the country, in
which the landholders should have a great preponderance.
therefore, am not prepared with any measure of Parlia•
mentary Reform, nor shall any measure of the kind he
proposed by the Govermnent as long as I hold my present
position.

The Address was then put to the question, and agreed
to without a division; and on the motion of the Duke of
Wellington, it was ordered that the House should go up
with it, and present it to his Majesty to-morrow (this day)
at One o'clock.

On the Motion of the Duke of WELLINGTON, the
Earl of Shaftesbury WitB appointed Chairman of the Com-
mitters of Privileges, and of Committees on Public and
such. Private Bills as should he committed in the House.—
The Noble Duke took that occasion to bier testimony to
the great ability and industry with which Lord Shuf►es-
bury had discharged the duties of these situations on former
occasions.

Adjourned at Half-past Nine till Twelve o'clock to-
morrow (this day)•

HOUSE OF COMMONS,—..(LAST NIGHT.)
The Sea:AKEn took the Chair this day about One
o'clock, and Members were then sworn until Two, when
the Muse was sumtnoned by Sir T. Tyrwhitt to the
House of Lords, for the purpose of heating his Majesty's
Speech delivered from the Throne. The Speaker, ac.
complied by about 200 Members, then proceeded to the
House of Louie, and on his return intimated his inten-
tion to take the Chair at Three o'clock, in order to allow
Members to be sworn, and that public business would be
proceeded with at Four o'clock. , At Four o'clock ac-
cordingly,
Mr. NICHOLSON CALVERT moved the first read-
ing of the Clandestine Outlawries. Bill.
The 13111 was read a first, and ordered to be read a se-
cond time.
PARLIAMENTARY REFORM.
The usual Sessional Orders were then read.

On the motion that they ho agreed to,
. _

Mr. BROUGHAM said, he could not allow the op-
portunity which that question presented, to pass over
without giving notice of his intention, on that day fort.
night, to bring the great question of a Reform of the
Commons House of Parliament fully under consideration.
He thought it right to take the opportunity which that
notice gave him, to disavow, in the most solemn and de-
liberate manner, certain plans of Parliamentary Reform
which hurl lately and sedulously, without any good nut-
tive that he could ascertain, been ascribed to him. Those
plane, and all the plans of a limited and bounded nature
of reform, of which only he was said to be disposed to
be the advocate, he begged now fully to say were not
his, but quite the contrary. At the time •he formerly
alluded to the subject, he had distinctly stated when
they were said to be in contemplation, that they had
had his assent, but he qualified that assent by declaring
that lie looked to them merely as part and parcel of
that larger and more satisfactory change in the Re-
presentation, which had become so imperatively ne•
emery. In the next place he begged to deny a re-
port put forth from a quarter very opposite to that
of the tither, namely, that lie was diapered to favour that
radical sweeping kind of rerormution which be conicien-
tiously believed must ultimately and in something little
short of Revolution. On the contrary, he had distinctly
ended that he intended to bottom his reform on the ancient
drys of the Constitution of this country, as exhibited in
the plan of its Representative System. Without entering
into details which be felt would be at that time both irre-
gular and inconvenient, he would merely state, that the
whole of his plan would be found to be one of conciliation,
so as to combine all interests and all opinions in favour of
a restoration of the constitution to its state of original
purity. Ile would be found desirous of obtaining the con.
sent of all clu•see and of all interests, and of all opinions
—and of all who were disposed to go even the shortest
way with him in the course which lie proposed, and to re-
pulse none who might be willing to admit that there were
good reasons to believe the representative system was in
wantZof some reformation ; for it was reform, nut change,
that be had in contemplation. Ile had only to add, with-
out detaining the House any lunger, that he intended to
employ the interval between that time and the day of his
hriuging forward hie motion in communicating diligently
' with all those who held opinions of different degrees on
the subject, in order that he might, as far as in him lay,
secure, the ce-operation and support of all who were inte-
rested in the great questions which it embraced. One
word,,liewever, lie thought it now necessary to add, with
respect to the principle of his immure, and that was, to
repeat hie declaration, that his object was not revolution,
but restoration—to restore the state of representation to
that state in which it ought to be, not to change it from
what it hud been-,eto repair, not to pull down.
THE KING'S SPEECH
_ _ .

The SPEAKER then informed the Rouse that he had
procured a copy of the King's Speech, to prevent mis-
takes ; and he would now take leave to read it, for their
isfacthmi
On the Speech being read,

Lord GIUMSTONE, on rising to move the Address to
his Majestyle Speech, expressed a hope that those who had
balm pticed in the same arduous situation, as welt as the
many high and distinguished Statesmen he saw around
him, would alike extend to him their indulgence. Nothing,
indeed, but the conviction of such au extension of their
0011tiderate kindness, and of the importance of the occa-
sion, could have induced him to 'present himself at such
a time, to their notice, In alluding to the various topic'
introduced in his Majesty's Speech,' he could not with-
out pin and regret call the, attention of the House to
that part which referred to the situation of the Continent.
The awaketkitlF spirit of the age looked fur improvement
ht the condition of the Legislature, and the people..."
(Hear.).--Although he would not break in on the spirit
of the Constitution, God forbid be should entertain such A,
project ; yet he thought it must be toads to accommodate
more closely to the helinge and Opinions of the people.
The Noble Lord then rend the Address he propostql,
which was, as usual, a mere echo of the Speech from the
Throne. -

DUNDAS, in rioting to second the Addreea, also
craved the indulgence of the Hurt , and observed that at a
period of such unusual excitement tit home, and more than