The Sun.
London, England, 1839-05-08 00:00:00

COPYRIGHT BILL.

Mr. Sergeant TALFOURD moved that the House
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole Ilotse o❑
this subject.

Mr. 'WARBURTON wouhl put it to the Hon. and
Learned Member whether in the present stike of the
House, and of the public business, be would attempt to
proceed with a Bill of so much importance.
Mr. Serzeant TALFOURD said most certaly.

Sir ROBERT INGLIS 'trusted y that his
Learned Friend would take the sense of the
House upon that Bill. If any question could be
free of party it certainly was that one. He hoped
every Hon. Member would remain and divide upen the
question. No Government whatever was required to
watch over such a Bill.

Sir ROBERT PEEL certainly considered the Bill
as one of immense importance. He had given his strenu-
ous support to the Hon. and Learned Member the
other evening ; but in the present state of things he
would certainly advise him not to proceed further with
it at present.—(Hcar, hear.) He would find it impos-
sible, after the excitement in which the House had been,
to get Members to apply themselves with such delibera-
tion as such a Bill required.

Mr. Sergearn. TALFOURD said, after the appeal
that had been made to him by the Right Hon. adrenet,
who was the best judge of how far it was proer to pres-
any bill under such circumstances, he would decline to
press his motion. He would therefore postpone it till
this day week.
At the suggestion of the SPEAKER, it w,:.s ordered
that the Orders of the Ddy for the present week should
stand for corresponding days in the neat.
Lord PALMERSTON presented papers by com-
mand of her Majesty.
The House at Half-past Five o'Clock adjourned till
Monday next..

SHIPPIN G INTELLIGENCE.

(LLOYD'S.)

VESSELS SPOKEN Alnwick, 5,h ult., going
over the Bar of Charlestpn ; Beilona, for Quebec, 20th,
long. 41 ; Fair Isle, for Newfoundland, and Cato, of Ply-
mouth, 21st ; Amazon, of Liverpool, 22,1, by the Matthew
Bell, arrived at Liverpool ; Richard Pain, from Whitby,
14th ult., lat. 40, long. 50, by the Johann, George, arrived
off Portsmouth ; Mary Ann, Liverpool to Halifax, 26th
ult., by the Briton, Rogers, arrived at Cork ; British 'Far,
Liverpool to Philadelphia (had experienced heavy gales),
9th ult., lat. 41, long. 45; Isabella, from Monte Video,
15th, lat. 45, long. 31 ; Scipio, Falmouth to Qua bre, 25th,
lat. 48, long. 14 ; Sir Edward Hamilton, Hull to New
York, 26th. lat. 48, long. 13; same day passed the wreck
of a ship of about 400 tons bottom up, by the Spey packet,
arrived at Falmouth.—Emily, St. Domingo to Clyde, 14th
ult., lat. 33, long. 58; Francis Dcpau, Liverpool to New
York, 16th, lat. 41, long. 54 ; Pictou, Waterlord to North
America, 24th, lat. 48, long. 19 ; Naiad, St. Deming() to
Falmouth, same day ; Nymph, Cadiz to Portimuuth, 27th,
lat. 47, long. 13, by the Mutino packet, arrived et Fal-
mouth.—lberia (steamer), 20 miles N. E. of Cape Fini3-
tcrre, and Alay Laing. Honduras to London (and supplied
with provisions), 3d inst., Irt 47, long. 7, by the Royal
Tar, arrived at Falmouth.—Nora Creinn, Palermo to St.
Petersburg, North Briton and lonian, Smyrna to London,
Fenclia, Malaga to London in Gibraltar Bly, by the Cle-
mention, Wcolon, arrived at Torbay.—Elizabeth Any, of
Liverpool, 25th ult., lat. 50, long. 8, by the England,
Hay, arrived in the River.—Charlotte, from New York,
16th ult., lat. 43, lung. 46; Liverpool (steamer), Liver-
pool to New York, 24th ult., lat. 48, long. 12, by the Ye-
nice, arrived at Havre.

THE UNITED SERVICE JOURNAL FOR MAY
is unusually interesting and valuable. It opens with an
" Examination of the Law of Storms," tracing the gradual
progress of that important branch of science to the recent
discoveries of Mr. Redfield and Colonel Reid, il!utrating
the statements by diagrams and tables. The next article
is a letter by Captain E. Chappell, R. N., " On Acci-
dents to Steam-vessels," which will be found of great service'
in the forthcoming investigation in Committee of the
House of Commons on the disasters to vessels navigated
by steam.—" Reasons for a warlike attitude in Peace," is
followed, appropriately enough, by " Notes on the Military
Esta'ulisliments of the United States," which, besides a
brief history of the American armies, points out the means
taken by our Transatlantic brethren to furnish their army
and militia with efficient officers, &c.—" A brief Survey or
the Routes by which Russia may march to the frontiers of
British India," points out the difficulties of the project and
the means for surmounting them.—Major Bert gives an
entertaining account of " Adventures from Gibraltar."—
Lieutenant Sabben has an article on the preservation of
Ships from Lightning ; and Captain Ramsay a Paper on
" Connecting and Disconnecting Paddle-wheals."—The
Correspondence, 4c., embraces the astral variety of useful
subjects.

THE LIFE AND ADVENTURES OF 'MICHAEL
ARMSTRONG, rim FACTORY BOY, BY MRS. TROLLOPR..—.
The third number of this iotcresting tale is now before us,
and is equal to its predecessors. Poor Mike seems as little re-
conciled to his new abode and fine dress as ever; his bed-rid-
den mother, and Teddy, occupy his thoughts continually; the
interview between the latter, a poor little ragged fellow
working in Sir Matthew's factory, and his brother Mike,
is very affecting. The vain and overbearing character of
the Cotton Lord, and the disgusting
moabnsyeqiu)aioiunts.unles
islinufsttrlale.
Doctor, are finely pourtrayed, and
Lions of the working of the odious factory system, which is
80 undermining the health and prospects of the working
people, are afforded by our warm-hearted and accomplished
authoress. May success attend her studie3 and philan-
thropy.—Parthenon.
THE CHARTISTS IN WALES.—We see in the
Tines of yesterday a long article on the " Chartist Insur-
rection in North Wales," which is an excellent specimen
of a penny-a-liner gathering up all the lie.arseys and pos-
sible mischances of a neighbourhood, and dre6sing them
up into an imposing story. For example wo are told it
was "rumoured that a large reinforcement of Charaists
would arrive from Merthyr Tydvil; but they have not
ventured, and all at present is quiet." The rumour is
mentioned five days after the occurrences at Llanidloes,
and or. it the scribe implies a wicked design in the Merth‘jr
Tydvil men, and want of courage to execute it. Again,
" it was anticipated that the Chartists would have stopped
and robbed the Aberystwith mail, which passes through
Llanidlces ; but they satisfied themselves with placing a
pike at the coachman's breast, and exacting from him
a promise that lie would not convey the policemen from
the town." Out of such tales, almost a week old,• t e
penny-a-line Correspondent of the Times weaves an article
of a column and a half teeming with absurd accusations of the
unfortunate and excited people and of tho Alinisters.
We beg to b 9 excused from copying it, like some of our
Evening Contemporaries, for it contains nothing new. We
except the announcement that the yeomanry of the sur•
rounding counties are ordered to be in readiness, or are
called out; and at the same time it is stated, that trade is
bad in Lianidlocs, and provisions dear. The unarried cr
partially armed Chartists, whose bread is taxed, are to be
put clown by the armed yeomanry who receive and enjoy
the tax.

THE NEW NOVE'LS.--Mr. Bentley, of New
Burlington-strut, Ills just published the following New
Works of Fiction, which may no.v be had at all the Lib.-
rart,,s :-1. Charles Tyrrel, by G. P. R. James, F,sq.
2. The Husband-Hunter, by Dennis Ignatius Moriarty,
Esq.-3. Births, Deaths, and Marriages, by Theodore
Hook, Esq.-4. The Cabinet Minister, by Mrs Gore.
5. The Prince and the Pcdlar, by Ellen Pickering, author
of " The Merchant's Daughter."--6. Eve Effingham, by
the authar.of " The Pilot."-7. The Widow Barnaby, by
Mrs. Trollopc.-8. Wyss Twist, by Charles Dick ens,
Esq., with 24 illustrations by George Cruielssiistok.
POOR-LAW AMENDMENT.—A Bill is in the
course of preparation in one of the Government Offices,
for continuing the functions of the Puor-law Commis-
sioners for five years longar, and in this measure tcveral'
important amendments uf the system will be included.
Provision will be made for the more effectual collection bf
the Poor-rates under the direction of the Guar-liens.
Orphan schools will be established for large district upon •
the plan of one which has recently been farmed at
Norwood for the children of the metropolitan parishes. It
is also proposed to give the Poor-law Commissioners porrjr
to dissolve Gilbert's Unions. The Local Acts (which
affect about 375 parishes) it is not, we believe, proposed
to repeal. An improved system for auditing the Union
accounts will also, we believe, be introduced. The Bill
expected to be on the table of the Hours; of Commons dour:
ing the present month. —Her ford 1'45 boner.
BELGiUM.—The following :s the plan for the
payment of the Scheldt tonnage duties, as stipulated by
the 9th article of the treaty with Holland :—" Leopold, •
&c.—Seeing that a navigation duty is tqs be levied on the
Scheldt by the Nethorlanda 'Government, and that it must
be considered, at least for the time being, as a common
charge, it is jest, therefore, that this duty should be reim-
bursed by the public treasuty, and that the befs means of
equitabiy ,:iivlding this charge is by augmenti* the tariff
of the customs duties, in order that they may serve as the
basis of payment. Considering, however, that as the pay_
meat is made for the sole profit of Holland, there would
be a, (lambi,. use of the same sums, were the duties to be
repaid to Dutch vessels, we have decreed-1: The duties
to be paid to the Netherlands kingdom by ali vessels ow_
ward or inward bound, from c,r to the Sonelu cr the canal
of Tsetneust!, shall be reimbursed to the ships oral nations,
exciapt to those of the Netherlands. Au extraordinary
erec it of 300,000 francs is opened to this effect, &c. &c.
2. I ;gore the Ist of January, 1839, art examination shall
take place, in order to see whether the betetits of the
rho re disposition shag or shall not continuo to be extended
to t I.oso nations with whom no commercisl or navigation
err angemcnts shall have been made. 3. IhOrder to meet
thi a reimbursement for the year 1839, the additional een-
tie BeS on all the duties cf customs, transit, and tonnag,:s.
sh all be augmented from 15 to 18, from such tine as ishall
bet sletcrminedby the Government." _ _

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HYDROPHOBIA.—A mare belonging to
I , Dr. Porter of the Regent's-park, which was bitten by a
I dog' supposed to be rabid, was killed yesterday on the Aunt
sup position. The death of a policeman who died at
,rletina is also laid at the aforesaid dog's door.

EVENING EDITION.

NATIONAL CON VENTON.

(YESTERDAY.)

Yesterday being appointed for the presentation of
the National Petition, considerable excitement was,
,some time before the meeting of the Convention, ap-
parent in the neighbourhood of Bolt-court, Fleet-street.
In the passage leading to the Convention Room was
&played the " Petition,' upon a huge wooden frame
and roller, certainly the largest we ever beheld, being,
at least, we should say, nine or ten feet in circumference.
The attendance of Delegates was very numerous.
BAILIE CRAIG took the Chair.

The minutes of the last meeting having been read,
Mr. F. O'Coataton wished to correct a mis-statement
which had appeared in the press, that the Convention
had adjourned last evening to a secret meeting ; such
was not the case, the meeting being altogether open to
tha press had any reporter applied for admission.
It was reported that 500 additional signatures to the
National Petition had been received from Kingston,
Surrey.
A letter was read from Merthyr Tydvil, expressing
co-operation with the objects of the Convention, but
regretting that so much of their time had been appa-
rently occupied in what bore the semblance at least of
personal e'esercation, following the example, in this
.. _spect, of the House of Commons, an example least
of all worthy of imitation.—(Hear, hear.)
A letter was also read from Kendal, requesting that
a public meeting might be held there in Whitsun-
week, because the working men, though generally
attached to the Convention, were not at present or-
ganised sufficiently to co-operate effectively.
A letter was read likewise from Sutton, in Ashfield,
informing the Convention that the issuing of the pro-
clamation in council had the effect of greatly increasing
the attendance at the Association of the Working Men
in that district, making good the old adage-
-46 The more the cruel tyrants bind us,
The more united they shall find us."—(Cheers.)
A letter was then read from Aberdeen, expressive
of cordial co-operation.
The nekt letter was from Stroud, announcing the
signatures to the petition to amount, including the
women, to near 3,000. It had been reported that a
riot had taken place at Trowbridge by the Chartists,
who were said to have burnt a brewery ; whereas no
~,,krewery had existed there for several years.—(Laugh-
-1 r.) A troop of horse soldiers had entered the town
with no apparent cause ; but it was soon found that it
had been reported at Trowbridge that the streets of
Stroud were running with blood.—(Laughter.) Both
towns were, on the contrary, quite peaceable.
A letter was read from Birmingham, stating that
public opinion was divided there as to the right of the
new Delegates, Messrs. Powell, Brown, and Donald-
son, to represent the town ; but that the decision
of the matter lay with the Convention.
A letter was read from Morpeth announcing the for-
mation of an Association there.
The following sums were announced as having been
received :—W. st Linton, 10s.; Juniper Green, 2s. Gd. ;
Gilashiels, .5/. 195.; Belfron, 21. ; Shotts, 2/. 10s. ;
Severn, East Sheens, 2/. Total, 181. 14s. Gd.
A Post-office order for 1/. was received from Gate-
I house, G:illosvayshire.
Mr. VINCENT reported that Mr. Fielden had directed
that the petition be taken to his house at two o'clock.
Mr. F. O'CoNNoR reported from the Committee for
drawing up an Address upon the Queen's proclamation,
ttat in conseqence of the non-attendance of the Dele-
gates who proposed the measure, nothing had been done.
Mr. LowetY said the cause of his absence was very
ill health.
Mr. NIA.RSDR.N reported his mission. His first meet-
ing had been at Lewes, a place sending two Mem-
hers to Parliament, but under the influence of great
corruption and intimidation. The meeting was very
fully attended. Ile had expressed an opinion that the
Government would never do the people justice till
i compelled. This the chairman thought proper to re•
Ipuiliate, as savouring of physical force, whereupon he
( elr. Marsden) asked if, when met by a robber, moral
or physical force would be used ? The meeting, by
! loud approbation, testified their concurrence in tilac serai-
-1 ment. At Brighton he found more Radicals than per-
; haps at any other town in England.—(Hear, hear.)
IBut he found that some cruel attempts at intimidation
had been male to prevent signatures to the petition,
by dismissing servants of many years' faithful service
1 andejecting tenants.—( Hear.) No doubt, but f.'s!. such
efforts the signatures would have been more numerous.
At Alphinstone he was well received by a Dissi rating
minister who had been much persecuted for his crpposi-
-1 tion to the Poor-law, and a crowded meeting took place,
I where a men dubbed " Squire'. had, throughmut the
(! whole proceeding, 'continued to make unmannerly inter-
ruptions. He (Mr. Marsden) had told those who
I stimulated this man that the thee would speedily arrive
when they would have to pay heavily for their it justice
i and oppression.—(Hear, hear.) At Eastbiet irne a
locating could not be held, through the intim illation
extweised on the working classes, who were-3 levwever,
all in favour of the people's cause. Many creee.l cases
of oppression under the Poor-law had occurred in this
1 neighbourhood (several of which Mr. Marsden I elated),
some labourers having been sent to gaol for ref asine to work at the mill, grinding corn, upon the rniseeeLble al-
I lowance of food which was doled out tie them,
I the Maelstratte saying that the six ounces of be sad, and
1 oz. cicheese, were sufficient.—(hear.) A poor old
man, not able to hear the wanton cruelty of sepal. ation in
a Bastilc from his aged wife, had put a period to his ex-
istence.—(Hear, hear.) Throughout the die ,rict no
Iwords could describe the tyranny of one class and the
grovelling submission of the other. He had Al' peatedly
' rated the poor working men for their submis:;i veness to
their superiors—but still, a feeling was rankli wg in their
breasts which only required to be aroused.
On the motion of Mr. O'CONNOR a vote .of thanks
was passed to Mr. Marsden.
Mr. VINCENT said he begged to take Mr. Burn's re-
port as his own, and to assure the Conventi of 1 that he
had been actively and successfully engaged in e.rganizing
the working men through the West, though lie did not
think it necessary after Mr. Burn's report ti s go into
details.
A vote of thanks to Mr. Vincent was agreed to on
the motion of Mr. O'CONNOR.
Mr. Aiwa tr,Nrted briefly his mission, and also
received a vote of thanks.
Mr. CARPENTER reported 50/., which he had received
for the National Rent.
On the motion of Mr. LOWREY, a Committee of five
was appointed to consider of the electing and rejecting
members of the Convention.
Mr,. PITICEITIILEY moved for a committee of seven- to
re-consider the People's Charter, but not being second,ed
the motion fell to the ground.
The SECRETARY therm read a notice of motion iby-
Mr. Harney, to inquire into the conduct of' Mr. IRi-
chardson.
Dr. TAYLOR moved that it be expunged from the
books ; this was seconded.
Mr. HARNEY agreed to postpone it, and promised: to
give Mr. Richardson a copy of the charges against 'ai m.
Soon
.elter this, as there was no further basin ess
before tip Chair, the meeting dissolved, to make ar-
rangements for the
PROCESSION WITH THE PETITION..
ta few minutes after two o'clock the Member s of
the Convention, fifty-two Delegates being P ref ent,
formed two by two in order to escort the
p-etition et , the
residence of Mr;. Fielden, in Pantori-street, Leh me, sten
square, to deposit it in the hands of Mr. Attwood;, who
had promised to attend them there to receive it ; u pon
which the word was given to the conductor of the van
on which it was placed, to proceed forthwith. 'The
multitude then gave three hearty English cheers, after
which the vehicle proceeded in its course, the Dele gates
following the Chairman of the day, Mr. Bailie C 'rug,
and Mr. Lovett, the Secretary, heading the file. It
I,
moved on through Fleet-street, and during its pro sr ess
to Temple Bar it was repeatedly cheered. Here :the
crowd increased very much, -but the conduct of the
people was so good that no impediment was (riven: to
the different vehicles which were passing up andb do no I.
Having &ached the house of Mr. Hetherington, ii 1
the Strand, the people gave testimony of their approve 1
of that gentleman's conduct, by cheering repeatedly
Soon after, on reaching that part of the Strand, in whit 1 i
is situated The Sun Newspaper-office, the multitude wit Is
one accord gave a tremendous token of applause for that,
Journal ; it was so loud and long that every person pre--
sent seemed to think that this to them was fresh enjoy-
ment, after the groanings which they sent forth as they
passed Somerset-house. It again proceeded in its course,
the crowd still increasing, until it reached Charing-cross,
eeheit a similar feeling of disapprobation as that at So-
Merset-house was expressed at the mansion of the Duke
of Northumberland. Nothing further occurred to mar
the good humour of the crowd until it reached its des-
tination, at three o'clock, amid the repeated huzzas of
the assembled thousands.

INTERVIEW WITH MR. ATTWOOD.
At three o'clock, the procession arrived at Mr. Aft-
, Wood's. On being introduced to that gentleman,
Mr. ATTWOOD said he had seen the Speaker on the
subject of the petition, and would give notice of pre-
Besting it, but when he woujl be able to present it he
Icould not tell, for he understood that Lord John Rus--
sell would that evening announce his resignation. Pro-
i, bahly he (Mr. Attwood) would to-morrow, give notice
of its presentation on Friday next. At about four
°cloh
ck on Friday, he should move that it be printed,
whic he had no doubt would be acceded to. When it
awaflpurrinted, he should give notice of his intention on
would e_ day, whether before Whitsuntide or after, he
Lion
oiloonttult the Deputation upon, to found some mo-
Aopetition. with the view of bringing it
) before the
uc. He had been told it weighed five
1 cwt. He should hl • consult them as to the best
way of getting it int'oe tic:
id it in, or put it on atweheell?use—whether he should
Mr. C0LL1N3,...A wheelbarrow
(A laugh.)narrow.
would not hold 4.-
21r. ATTWOOD—And it would require a good deal of 1
asustance to roll it • .
__, ridgy next forthking it into th ' 1
He had, it Mr. Fielden' i
fixed on_02.1(0411P
g the responsibility of keepint; I 1
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