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London, England, 1863-07-18 00:00:00

JURORS' REMUNERATION BILL.

The order of the day for the second reading of this hi
Wai3 read and discharged.

STANDING ORDERS,

The Earl of DONOI.IGII_6IORE moved the following as
a standing order for the suture :—" That when a petition is
prose; ted to this hr,ase praying to be heard by counsel
against any provisional order under the Inclosure Act or
under the Lanii Drainage Act, 1861, contained or referred to
in any bill before the house, such bill may be referred to a se-
lect committee, end the committee m.iy hear the petitioners,
the Inelosure Commissioners if they shall think fit to appear,
and filch persons as shall appear in sup, ort of said provi-
sional order; and the committee may, if they think
fit, recoranic,nd that such provisional order be not con-
firmed, the c ;mmittee shall not in any way modify or
alter the terms of such order."
Lord REDESDALE opposed the motion.
After a discussion the motion was withdrawn.
JUDICIAL STATIST. CS (IRELAND).

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved—" Ehat it is
expedient and necessary that judicial statistics from Ireland,
similar to those for England and Wales, saould b. an-
nually furnished; and with that view it i+ necessary
that a person acquainted with the Dish Courts and
otherwise competent should be attached to the Home Office,
and that all possible facilities and co-operation should be
afforded to this officer by the several authorities in Dublin
Castle and the various law courts of Ireland." He did not
complain of his noble friend the President of the Council,.
or of any ~they member of the Government for negligence
in this matter; but he did complain of the law officers and
advisers of the Irish Government, for not having taken stets
to procure the same information on the subject of judicial
statistics in Ireland, which was regularly provided in Eng-
land and Wales. His noble friend (Lord Brougham) de-
served great thanks for having originally moved the reso-
lutions under which the judicial statistics were prepared,
but his noble friend's intention was that Ireland should
be included in those returns. At present they had no
means of ascertaining the business done in the Landed
Estates Court. They knew nothing of the litigation in Ire-
land, and they had no possibility of comparing the judicial
returns of Ireland with those of England and Wales.
Earl GRANVILLE said that it must not go forth either
that there were no judicial statistics collected in Ireland, or
that there was any deliberate intention to obstruct their col-
lection, or withhold information, But delay had undoubtedly
taken place through the desire to make the returns as per-
fect and complete as possible. As, however, the delay had
taken place, and he was not in a condition to give any sa-
tisfactory assurance to his noble friend, he would agree to
the resolutions, if some modifications were made in them.
He wished the passage referring to the attachment of the
officer to the Home-office be omitted.

Lord BROUGHAM, whilst acknowledging the Pattering
allusion which had been made to him by the noble marquis,
said that the great and prominent part taken by the late
Prince Consort should not be forgotten. He had never
known so ripe a judgment as that possessed by the late
Prince. His lordship then pronounced a eulogium upon the
late Duke of Wellington, and said that, whilst the late
Prince Consort was a bright example to all royal person-
ages, the late duke was a bright example to all statesmen.
The Earl of DONOUGHMORE thought that there were
far too many judges in Ireland. If they were reduced in
number and made to work as hard as their English brethren
the business would be much better done.

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE assented to the modi-
fication suggested by Earl Granville.
The resolutions as amended were then agreed to.
SCIENTIFIC INSTITUTIONS IN IRELAND.
Lord TALBOT DE MALAHIDE asked the President
of the Council whether it is the intention of her Majesty's
Government to carry out the recommendation of the com-
missioners on the system of scientific instruction in Ire-
land, to affiliate the Royal Irish Academy to the Royal
Dublin Society, and place it under the control of that body.
Earl GRANVILLE replied that it was not the intention
of her Majesty's Government to carry into effect that re-
commendation in the report.
PRISONS (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill went through committee,
MALTA.

The Earl of SHREWSBURY asked if the works at the
proposed new docks at Malta were to be prosecuted.
The Duke of SOMERSET replied that her Majesty's
Government would keep strictly and carry out faithfully
the engagements which they had entered into with the Go-
vernment of Malta. As to the exact estimate of the sum
of money which would be required for the works he could
not venture to state it offhand.

The Pier and Harbour Orders Confirmation, the Altera-
tion in Judges' Circuits, the Greenwich Hospital (Provision
for Widows), the Metropolitan Main Drainage Extension,
and the Misappropriation by Servants Bills were severally
passed through committee and ordered to be reported.
The reports of amendments to the Savings Banks Acts
Amendment and the Stipendiary Magistrates Bills were
brought up and received.

The Removal of Irish Poor, the Growing Crops Seizure
(Ireland), and the Land Drainage (Provisional Orders) Bills
were each read a third time and passed.

The Clergymen (Colonies) Bill went through committee,
The report on amendments made in the Port Erin Har-
bour (Isle of Man) Bill was brought up and agreed to.

The Marriages Registration (Ireland) and-the Colonial
Acts Confirmation Bills were each read a third time and
passed.
The Vaccination (Scotland) Bill was read a second time.
The Local Government Supplemental (No. 2) Bill—the
Commons amendments to this bill were agreed to.
Volunteers' Bill—the Commons' amendments to this bill
ware agreed to, as likewise were the Commons amendments
to the Waywarden's Contracts Bill.
The India Stock and the Sydney Naval Mint Bills were
read a second time.
Their lordships then adjourned. •