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and one which would never meet the exigencies of the case,
It was in very truth a manufacturer's bill, a bill drawn up
by the manufacturers of Laneashire, while the interests of
the working people had never been consulted. He recom-
mended arrangements for sending 1C 0,000 of ur unem-
ployed factory operatives to the colonies, Such a course
must be taken, it was to question of time. He be-
lieved the eperatives would not be quiet another winter.
The 4.0 e,OOO unemployed people were tired of being paupers,
and looked confidently. and, indeed, as they had an un-
doubted right, to the House of Commons for relief—a
million or so out of the many which they had been instru-
mental in adding to the many millions of the wealth of the
country, and of which the Chancellor of the Exchequer
boasted the other night, in order to place them in compara-
tive comfort in the colonies. The peat advocate of
free trade, the honourable member for Wolverhampton
(Mr. Villiers) and the hon. member for Rochdale (Mr.
Cobden) contended before its advent that its adoption wculd
enable the people of this country to meet successfully every
contingency that might happen ; but it had fallen to pieces
like a pack of cards, for it had proved of no avail in the
present emergency. It was said that this was an excep-
tional case, that being so exceptional alleviating remedies were
required. What guarantee had they that if peace were made
between the North and South that it wculd last. Was not
the war in Italy an exceptional state of things, though he
could name many others. The fact was, the manufacturers
wanted to keep the unemployed workpeople hanging about
the mills in case they should happen to need them, The
cpinion of the best informed was to the effect that it was
utterly impossible to restore the cotton trade, even in the
most favourable circumstances, for two or three years. He
implored the house to accede to the prayers of the opera-
tives, and would give them the means of emigrating.
Col. W. PAT TEN gave the hon. member credit for
being actuated by what he, doubtless, considered good in-
tentions towards the unemployed operatives; but, strictly
speaking, were he their greatest enemy, he could not have
acted otherwise. (Hear.) They had then but two hours
to discuss the measure, and if the bill were not quickly pro-
ceeded with and passed through committee to-day, the ses-
sion would probably end without its becoming law.
(Cheers.) The bill would allow £1,200,000 to be directed
to the employment of operatives,which would be a great boon.
If the hon. member desired, he could in committee propose
that a certain sum be appropriated to emigration; but as
there were 19 clauses in that bill, he begged the hon. mem-
ber not to hinder the house going into committee.
Mr. VILLIERS depreeated at this juncture raising ques-
tions which bad been discussed and settled during the last
20 years. His opinions on free trade, and those with whom
he had acted, were unaltered. The bill would be a
great boon to the unemployed operatives, and trusted no
time would be lost in proceeding with it.
The resolution empowering £1,200,000 to be devoted to
the purpcses of the bill was then agreed to.
The house then went into committee on the bill, and vari-
ous amendments were introduced into several of the
clauses.
Mr. ADDERLEY inquired why the Government took
no powers in the bill with respect to emigration ? Large
numbers of the eperatives desired to emigrate, and it was
very right that they should be helped to do so.
Colonel W. PATTEN said the central committee had re-
ceived large sums of money from the colonies, but no stipu-
lation had been made that emigrants should be sent out in
return. Under the existing law parishes were empowered
to allow a certain sum per head to eligible people who de-
sired to emigrate. If the funds raised by this bill were so
applied posterity would be improperly taxed.
Mr.VILLIERS submitted that the bill was for a specific
purpose, and a discussion on emigration was not germane
to the matter.
The remaining clauses, with the exception of the 11th,
which was struck out, were then agreed; to, with some
amendments and additions. The third reading will stand
as the first order on Monday.
The house resumed, and adjourned at 20 minutes to four
o'clock.
The house met again at six o'clock.
THE MHOW COURT-MARTIAL.

Mr. CONINGHAM gave notice that on Monday he
should ask the Under Secretary for War whether he would
lay upon the table a copy of the second letter or memo-
randum on the Mhow court-martial signed by the adjutant-
general.
THE SALE OF INTOXICATING LIQUORS.

Mr. LAWSON gave notice that on going into committee
of supply he should move that, in the opinion of that
house, the laws regulating the sale of intoxicating liquors
were eminently unsatisfactory, and, therefore, that they re•
quired immediate alteration.
THE DIPLOMATIC SERVICE.

Mr. B. COCHRANE gave notice that on Monday, on
the motion for going into committee of supply, he should
call attention to the report of the diplomatic service commit-
tee, which was brought before the house last evening quite
unexpectedly.
GROWING CROPS (IRELAND),

In reply to Sir F. HEYQATE,
Sir R. PEEL stated that the Government did not intend

to proceed with the Civil Bills (Ireland) Bill, but it was un-
der consideration whether the clause of the bill referring to
the seizure of growing crops might not be embodied in a
separate bill, to be introduced during the present session.
GENERAL MOURAVIEFF AND THE LADIES
OF POLAND.
Mr. D. GRIFFITH—I beg to ask the tinder Secretary
of State for Foreign Affairs whether he has reason to think
that the instructions given to Gen. Mouravieff by the Rus-
sian Government, on his appointment to the military com-
mand of the army in the Government of \Vilna, contain
any such passages as the following: "If circumstances ren-
der it advisable, his excellency can adopt measures against
families who possess members in the ranks of the insur-
gents." " His excellency should oppose certain demon-
strations of the women, and, for their hindrance, will even
adopt severe measures against them."
Mr. LAYARD—I am quite sure my hon. friend will
perceive that it is quite impossible for me to answer such a
question. Of course the Russian Government do not com-
municate to us the instructions which they may have given
to their agents ; and if 1 were to state what I think the in-
structions given in the present case to be, I might only be
deceiving my hon. friend.

BOW-STREET POLICE-COURT.
Sir G. BOWYER desired to refer to a case at the Bow-
street Police-court, which was reported in the newspapers
of Wednesday, the 24th. It appeared that a boy named
Nicholls, 12 years of age, was charged before the magis-
trate (Mr. Corrie) with stealing a horse and cart from
Covent-garden Market. The father said the boy had borne
a good character until recently, but that, having fallen into
bad company, he had taken to stealing small articles and
small sums of money, and therefore he thought that the best
thing to be done was to send him to a reformatory. Mr.
Corrie asked whether the father was willing to pay ss. a
week for the purpose, when the father said that his earnings
were only 15s a week, and that he had a wife and three other
children to support ; nevertheless, he would try to pay the
ss. a week rather than the boy should go on in his present
ways. The mother then stated that she was a Catho-
lic, and that the boy had been brought up in that faith,
although the father was a Protestant. Said Mr. Corrie :
" His religion does not appear to have done him much good
—(Great laughter, and cries of "Hear, hear ")—and per-
haps the best thing for him to do would be to change it,"
(Renewed laughter, and cries of " Hear, hear.") However,
after some consultation between the parents, they agreed
that the boy should continue a Catholic, but subse-
quently, on being told that it might be easier to get him
into a Protestant reformatory, they determined upon leav-
ing it to the magistrate to settle the question of the child's
religion. Now, he (Sir G. Bowyer) wanted to know
whether the right hon. gentleman the Home Secretary had
instituted any inquiry into the most extraordinary conduct
on the part of the magistrate.

Sir G. GREY said that on looking into the newspaper
report of the case he found there was nothing in it to justify
him in calling upon the magistrate for an explanation. But
the magistrate had sent him a memorandum to the effect
that a member of the bar, a Catholic, had called his
attention to the report in the newspaper, which was under-
stood to imply that he (Mrr Corrie) had induced the boy to
change his religion ; but the gentleman in question acknow-
ledged that the charge was entirely without foundation.
The boy was 12 years old, and he had been twice brought
up on a charge of felony, and, under the circumstances, Mr,
Corrie was quite justified in sending him to a reformatory.
Further, having ascertained that the only religious instruc-
tion he ever received was from Catholic clergymen,
Mr. Corrie decided upon sending the boy to the Roman
Catholic reformatory at Walthamstow, in case there should
be room in that establishment to receive him. (Hear, hear.)
MR. HUNT AND THE EXHIBITION BUILDING.
Mr. DILLWYN asked the First Commissioner of Works
whether Mr. Hint , who had made the estimate for the re-
pairing, altering, and arranging the International building
at South Kensington, was the same Mr. Hunt who took
out the quantities for Sir C. Barry for the New Houses of
Parliament, which quantities formed the basis of the first
estimate of £750,000 for the construction of the Houses of
Parliament; and whether Mr. Hunt, who had been em-
ployed by Government to value the Exhibition building be-
longing to Messrs. Kelk and Lucas, was or had been em-
ployed for Mr. Kelk as his surveyor and valuer.
titNieisr.f COWPER said that Mr, Hunt did take out the quan-
thatifpoorr their cConßstarrurcYtiwonhioefht
position in huitsy formed
odutahees
of basis
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first; esti-
mate
but
My showed that 26 years ago Mr. Hunt occupied a
house
ill
the
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entitling him to undertake so im-
outhcould, however, prove most satisfac-
table of that
Lyear 1837, the correctness of the
of documents laid upon the
It was well known that the
estimates made by Hunt.
ebxceeded, but not through
estimates for the building 'lNirtr
t huatd because. Sir C. Barry
errors in the original quantititeehsa,
had disregarded the drawings
and had not erected the building at abresetn originally made,
with regard to the other question, he faudnedsigned. Then
that Mr. Hunt was employed about three years inquiry
Kelk to make a valuation of the land oc,cupied bayg
Vic-
toria the station, Pimlico, and that upon his valuation Mr. Kelk
made a purchase to the extent of something like £.500,000.
If, however, the hon, member meant to imply any inference
derogatory to Mr. Hunt from that fact, he was particularly
in the wrong. Any such insinuation against the professional
character of Mr. Hunt would be entirely groundless. Mr.
Hunt was one of the most truthful and honest of men, and