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p ASTOR ALIA; a MANUAL of
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SELLING OFF UNDER PRIME COST,
IN CONSEQUENCE OF THE
LONDON BRIDGE APPROACHES.
IMPORTANT SALE of STOVE-
GRATES, KITCHEN RANGES, PATENT
WARM AIR STOVES, with ascending or descending
fluor' FENDERS, FIRE-IRONS, TABLE and SUS-
PEADING LAMPS, CHANDELIERS, VENISON
DISHES, WATER PLATES, TEA and COFFEE
URNS, PAPER-MACHE and other 'fEA TRAYS,
PATENT DISH COVERS, KNIVES and FORKS,
and Culinary Utensils in general.
ST°V
The extensive Premises denominated the LONDON
sew H GRATE BAZAAR, being required for the
a line of approach to London Bridge, the most exten-
sive rind valuable Stock of Furnishing Ironmongery in the
' down the Prim'
kingdom must be sold forthwith, preparatory to pulling
liament. •
Bea'. In compliance with the Act of Par-
price attached to each article. public inspection, and the
FISH-STREET-HILL.

Advices were received yesterday from Cal-
cutta, by way of Bordeaux, stating the failure, on the let
of January, of the old and eminent house of PALMER. and
Co., of that city. On that day the partners held a private
meeting of their friends, when the deficit on their books
appearing very large, and the concerns of great intricacy
and importance, they thought it their duty to declare their
insolvency, and to talie the benefit of the recent bankrupt
law in India. On the 4th January a notice was accord-
ingly given and published in the Gazette, and the 6th
was appointed for a meeting of creditors, for the purpose
of appointing assignees. The house had also notified its
ability to produce assts equal to one-half the amount of its
debts, as soon as assignees were named to receive them.
The shock of this failure was very severe in Calcutta, but
a hope iv expressed in the letters that its effects would not
extend further, and it was understood that the superin-
tendence of the winding-up of the affairs of Messrs. PAL-
MER and Co. would be confided to two gentlemen of the
highest respectability, connected with one of the most
eminent mercantile houses in Calcutta. The firm of PAL-
men and Co. has been established more than half a cen-
tury, and is said in great measure to have owed its fall to
the extreme liberality with which it has ever made ad-
vances to the members of the two services (civil and mili-
tary) in India.

The following are the late Lord ERSKINE'S
observations on the Probate duty, in his Armata, published
in 1817. They are eloquent and just: —" Having thus
closed the account of the taxes upon the living, I will
conclude the subject with their dominion after death. The
highest duty to Government only twenty years ago, either
on wills or on inheritances, amounted to only 60/. , but
now, (except when the property rests in near relations or
kindred), on the former it may amount to above 200 times
that sum, and on the latter to nearly SOO, as the highest
duty on the first may be 15,0001., and on the last above
20,0001., without taking into the account a proportion of
the property transmitted, which in some cases amounts to
a tenth. This is the most grievous of all our burdens.
The justest Government may have occasion to resort to a
moderate duty on alienations and transmissions of all de-
scriptions of property, but •it ought to advance with the
most cautious and even trembling steps. A mighty nation
in its public character should acorn to sit like a vulture
over departing breath."

NATURAL CURIOSITY.—On Wednesday
last a beautiful pebble, of the size and form of a pea, and
of a bluish thrystalized colour, was brought to our office,
which had been discovered a few days previously, in the
very centre of the fleshy part of a muscle. A fisherman in
Burghead discovered it in iti strange location by its re-
sisting the hook when using the muscle for bait. How it
came to' find bush a habitation is a problem which our
philosophy is unable to solve. Those who are curious in
such matters wiil have an opportunity of inspecting this
articie, by calling at •the Courier office, any time in the
course of the next few days.—E/pin Courier.

The Birmingham Journal of Saturday con-
tains a long account of two religious impostors, one of
whom is a fishmonger, pretending to be the real Simou,
and the other " the Loan's Messenger." " SHILOH
himself," says the Birmingham Journal, " in in person
about five feet ten inches in height, squints most hideously,
and weighs about fourteen stone. The place selected for
their disgusting ministrations is a chapel formerly occupied
by a congregation of Independents in ;Lawrence-street.
The two last Sundays the place has been crowded with
persons of all grades, drawn together ley curiosity, and the
streets around the chapel filled to repletion by all the
thieves and scoundrels infesting the town. On Sunday
last, we visited the spot professionally, and a more dis-
graceful scene was presented to our view than, we should
suppose, ever occurred in this country under the sanction
of any new-born religious creeds. however fanatical or blas-
phemous its tenets. At the conclusion of any passage in
the speaker's address, containing more than ordinary mon-
strosities, the audience occasionally broke forth in loud
yells and hootings, and were at last roused to such a pitch
of indignation, that, either intentionally or accidentally,
several of the benches upon which they were sitting gave
way, and universal disorder and confusion prevailed through-
out the whole assembly."

Last Saturday afternoon, about half-past five
o'clock, a coach called the Accommodation, which
travels between Louth and Lincoln, was on its re-
turn from the latter place, and when near the vil-
lage of LangtonA..two miles from Wragby, the
coach was upset. It appears that during the day
a violent gale of wind had blown, which rendered
driving very difficult; there were at the time five
outside, and one inside passengers. Among those
outside was Richard Whitton, a very stout man,
who for a number of years was coachman, until
within this last few weeks, when his corpulence
disabled him; he was returning from Lincoln fair,
and when the coach arrived at Langton proffered
his services to drive. As lie was well acquainted
with both the road aid horses, the coachman
did not object, and the vehicle passed on at its
usual speed, all the parties being perfectly sober.
About half a mile beyond Langton there is a sud-
den turn of the road, and while the coach was
passing this corner, a gust of wind came, the pas-
sengers felt the coach " lift," as they de-
scribe it, and immediately afterwards were all
blown into a ditch on the left hand side of the
road. Three of the outside passengers were fe-
males—they escaped with a few bruises ;—a
fourth was a young man named Woodruff, lie sus-
tained no injury :—the coachman. was hurt a trifle,
but poor old Dick Whitton, the facetious good
qumoured coachman, who was celebrated through
the county for his pleasant disposition, and who was
like Falstaff, not only witty himself, but the cause of
wit in others—he fell to the ground with great vio-
lence, and in his fall came in contact either with a
lamp iron or one of the wheels, which fractured his
skull from the ear to the eye-socket : immediate
help was given, but he neither spoke nor groaned,
nor gave any other sign of life,—and his death must
have been momentary. Whitton was forty-seven
years old, and has left a widow and seven children.
An inquest was held upon the body yesterday after-
noon, before Mr. BUNYAN, coroner, and from the
proceedings in that inquiry we have collected these
remarks; the Jury returned a verdict of Accidental
Death.

A singular fatality appears to attach to the spot :
for on Sunday last the coachman was proceeding in
a gig over the ground, together with Mr. Cabourn,
of,Horncastle, who was drawn to the place by curio-
sity, and when near Wragby the horse suddenly fell,
broke both its knees, and the shafts of the gig were
snapped off; both the riders were thrown out of the
gig, but fortunately escaped with a few bruises. The
coachman's arm, which had been bled in consequence
of the serious accident the previous night, started off
bleeding afresh, but prompt assistance being ren-
dered, the vein was again bound up.

The Corporation of Dublin have an intention
of starting Sir CHARLES WETHERELL as a representative
for the Irish metropolis the next vacancy.—Tipperary
Free Press.

THE TENDER PASSION AMONGST SA-
vAc Es.—( From Kotzebue's Voyage to Kamtychatka.)—
A girl had four lovers, amongst whom the fiend of jealousy
stirred up a deadly strife. After hard blows on all sides,
which resulted in cooling down the passion of none of
them, they resolved upon murdering the object of their
adoration, who drew her last sigh under the deadly thrusts
of their spears. The whole tribe assensbled round the
funeral pile, on which her body was burnt, and sang a
hymn, of which some of our fellow countrymen, who had
been long resident on the settlement, made out the follow-
ing expressions :—" Thou west too fair ; it was not meet
then shouldst abide with us; to look upon you was but to
steep our senses in deliriutn."

The following are the names of the Comniittee :

Messrs. T. G. Pennant, R. S 'Alderson, Mastertou Ure,
Ridley Colborne, R. E. Heat!mite, Carrington,
Antrobus, Penruddick, W. Burrell, Colonel Wemyss, and
Sir A. Chichester.

Several private Bills were forwarded a stage.

Mr. R. H. DAVIS presented a petition from the Cham-
ber of Commerce of the city of Bristol, against the East
India Company's monopoly.
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON presented a petition from
the congregation of York chapel, Walworth, against the
punishment of death in cases of forgery.
Several other petitions, to the saint- effect, were presented.
Mr. P. MILDMAY presentei a petition from certain
licensed victuallers against the opening of the beer trade.

Sir M. W. RIDLEY wished to know whether the
Chancellor of the Exchequer would not consent to take
part of the beer duty on the quantity of beer now in hand,
and allow a drawback for any quantity that might remain
on hand on the Ist of October.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER load re-
ceived a similar proposition from various quarters ; but
though the Treasury would not lose so much, by allowing
a drawback of only part of the duty, as it would if a draw-
back of the whole duty was granted, yet lie could not ac-
cede to the proposition, as the Treasury would, he was
sure, thereby suffer great loss.
Sir M. NV. RIDLEY inquired whether the Chancellor
of the Exchequer intended to renew the composition of the
Assessed Taxes.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER should in
a very few days submit to the House a Bill fur continuing
the composition of the Assessed Taxes,

Sir W. W. WYNN presented a petition from the
nobility, clergy, and freeholders, and from a majority of
the Grand Jury, of the county of Denbigh, against the
Welch Judicature Bill.

Alr. R. TREVOR presented a similar petiiion from the
county of Carnarvon.

Mr: BRIGHT gave notice, that on Tuesday next he
should present a petition from certain creditors of France,
claiming under the treaty made with that country, and that
upon that occasion he should call the attention of the
Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer
to the state in which those funds now are which ought to
have been distributed under that treaty.
Colonel LYGON presented a petition from the land-
holders and farmers of Worcestershire, against the imposi-
tion of an additional duty upon British spirits.
The same HON. MEMBER, presented a petition from the
Justices of the Peace in the county of Worcester, complain-
ing of the expense of passing Scotch and Irish vagrants.
Sir J. NEWPORT wished to know from the Noble
Lord opposite, whether any steps had been taken by his
Majesty's Government to appoint a commission to examine
the present state of the Catholic church in Ireland ?
Lord F. L. GOWER should be able either on to-mor-
row or the next day to give an answer to the question of
the Right Hon. Baronet.

Mr. W. SMITH presented a petition from the fisher-
men of Wick, against the abolition of the fishery bounties.
Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition from the parish
of Newton, in Bedfordshire, praying for the mitigation of
the punishment of death in cases of forgery.
Mr. MARSHALL presented a petition from the
licensed victuallers of Sheffield, against the Sale of Beer Bill.
Mr. BERNAL presented a similar petitition from the
hotel and public-house keepers of Leamington.
Mr. R. PALMER presented a petition from Maiden-

Mr. HUME was glad to find that the statements which
he had been making year after year, as to the abuses which
existed in the Protestant Established Church of Irel
as to the pluralities, non-residence, and other abuses there,
thus confirmed to the fullest extent by this petition from a
respectable body of Protest tots. A petition with 3,000
signatures was an important one, and if it only bore the
names of fifty-eight Magistrates, and one Peer, it was to
be recollected, that the nobility and gentry were interested •
in upholding the abuses of the Irish established church.
He (Mr. Hutne) differel from the Hon. Gentleman who
presented the petition, in the opinion that the established
church of England and Ireland was at all suitable for the
times, or fit for the country at the present moment. That
establishment should be taken into the immediate consi-
deration of the House and of Government, with a view
to effect that reform so loudly called for in it. No one
who had a sincere respect for the established church
could wish to maintain the gross abuses of the exist-
ing system. He thought the revenuesof the church much
too large for the purposes, for which they were intended.
He would maintain that Parliament had a perfect right
to deal with the church property as it should think fit.
The property of the church of England and Ireland was
public property, with which the Legislature might deal as
it thought proper. If the House should, in its wisdom,
tomorrow determine that the established religion of the
country should be Quakerism, as in that religion there
were no paid Ministers, what then would become of the
church of England ? As the duties of its Ministers would
cease, the right to hold the property which they possessed
would cease also; and Parliament might• then apply it to
any purpose its wisdom might direct. He denied alto-
gether that church property was upon the same footing as
private property. He trusted an inquiry would be insti-
tuted, to ascertain what number of clergy were really
wanted for the Protestant church in Ireland, and that the
surplus, or useless ones, would he dispensed with. He
hoped the day was not distant when a proper distribution
would be made of the church property in England, Scot-
land, and Ireland, and that his Majesty's Ministers would
avail themselves of the opportunity to correct the abuses
of which the petitioners complained.
Mr. KING explained—The statements which he had
made he had made from the petition. The petition had
attached to it the signatures of two or three Members of
that House, and' of the Mayor, Sheriffs, and other respec-
table inhabitants of Cork. The petitioners were mem-
bers of the church of England, and unconnected with
any party.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose,
far the purpose of entering his protest against the suppo-
sition that his unwillingness to enter into those details
now, argued an acquiescense, on his part, in the principles
avowed by the Hon. Member for Aberdeen. The Hon.
Gentleman appeared to allude to some contests which he
had had with him (the Chancellor of the Exchequer),
upon this subject, and he seemed to intimate, that in
these contests, he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had
uniformly attempted to defend, or to deny altogether, the
abuses stated to exist in the established church in Ireland.
Now he was sure that those Hon. Members who bad done
him the favour to attend to what had fallen from him with
regard to those different subjects when under discussion,
would recollect that he had, pn those occasions, uniformly
expressed his opinion, in accordance with the sentiments
of several of the most respectable clergymen connected
with the church of Ireland, that evil had grown out of
the state of the established church in Ireland that required
correction. There had been more done within the last
few years to place the church of Ireland on the footing on
which it ought to stand than during any antecedent period.
There had been, within that time, a desire in all ranks of
people, and especially in the church itself, to remedy those
abuses which were admitted to exist, and which owed
their existence not to any neglect or fault of the heads of
the church, but to the particular circumstances in which
the church itself was placed. He hoped that this subject
would be discussed upon the principle of removing abuses
where abuses were proved to exist, but not upon the prin-
ciple of condemning the whole body of the clergy because
there had been some members of it Who had misconducted
themselves; still less upon the principle of appropriating
the revenues of the church, as was proposed by the Hon.
Member opposite, such purposes of their own as might
best square with the wants or the conveniences of the public
ex chequer.

Lard F. L. GOWER rose for the purpoea ofsaying a
few words, in consequence of the-self-complacency with
which the Hon. Member for Aberdeen ref reed to this pe-
tition, signed by 53 Magistrates of the county of Cork, as
a confirmation of the peculiar views which he had himself
previously taken of the state of the property of the church
in Ireland. However valuable the Hon. Member might
conceive this petition to be, as a confirmation of his own
arguments, this he (Lord Gower) would venture to affirm
—that there was very little concurrence in the main be-
tween these petitioners and the Hon. Member. The peti-
tion set out with a description of the advantages which
ae coun-
try the petitioners considered their country to have derived
from the established church—a point on which their opi-
nion was much at variance with the opinion usually ad-
n witheii o Hon.
the Member.other establishments T hen, a s to
of h
thving the
church
were by
rely much on the prophecies which the Hon. Member for
vu
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dheyaitth
Aberdeen had made on that head. •
On referring to that
old aluaanack of which they had occ •
as:tonally heard so much

Mr. BARING entered his protest against the decttine
just laid down by the two Right Hon. Gentlemen oppo-
site, that in no case was it competent for Parliament to
meddle with the eroperty of the church, which'wa* to be
considered as cafe as any gentlemen's private property.
At the same time he' felt himself bound to declare, that
notwithstanding ell the respect which he felt for the pub-
lic conduct of his Hon. Friend the Member for Aber-
deen in other respects, that Hon. 'Member was the last
man in the world to whom he would submit either the
reformation or the re-organization of our church esta-
blishments. Still he was of opinion that, without seme-
revision, these establishments might be involved in treat
danger. Ile particularly adverted to the mischief likely
to arise from the unequal distribution of the property be-
longing to them. We had several Bishops in England
who were unable to reside in their dioceses, owing to the
want of proper residences within the limit.: of them, and
owing to the insufficiency of their incomes to provide such '
residences. He happened to know that a most venerable
and meritorious prelate, the Bishop of Hereford, resided,
not in his diocese, but at Winchester. The'Bishop of
Llandaff resided in London, where he held (Aber pre•
ferments, from the insufficiency of his income to pro-
vide him a suitable residence in Wales. The Bishop
of Rochester, whose jurisdiction extended ever a large
portion of Kent, hail an income not larger than marry
of our parochial clergy, whilst there were Bishops of
other sees, with incomes so green as to amount toloo,ooo/.
a-year ; or at least with incomes which would reach that
amount in a very abort time. When such was the care,
he thought that it could no longer be denied that sums
change must be made in the distribution of the property ef
the church, for the sake of the church itself. He had no
wish to establish an equality of revenue and of rank in
the church. He felt the advantage of our having and re-
taining a gradation of both; but still he thought that it
would be of great advantage to the character of our
hierarchy--which, be admitted, stood as high as that of
any hierarchy in the world—to have such a distributi. n of
property made among them as would enable all of them
to reside within their dioceses in a manner suitable to their
rank in the church, and to their respectability in society.
When he was told that there were matters with which it
was not competent for Parliament to deal in any imagin-
able case, he felt bound to protest against the doctrine.
Sure he was that if Parliament acted upon it, it would
not promote but injure the success of the church. What
the state of the church of Ireland might be, he did not
pretend at that moment to know. On that point lie
should have better information when the report of the
ecclesiastical commission was laid upon the table ; but this
he knew, that there was sufficient power in the three
branches of legislature to revise the distribution of its
property. He would say the same with respect to the
church of England ; not that be thought that church too
rich or too well paid; all that he contended for was, that
Parliament had not merely the power, for that was un-
questionable, but also the equitable right to exercise the
power of distributing the property of the church as it
thought most advitetble among the members of the church.
Whether Parliament had a right to say, " The church is
rich, and too well paid, -and we will devote iss surplus
revenue to the formation of schools and collegiate endow-
ments," was another question, into which he had no inten-
tion of entering on the present occasion.
Dr. LUSHINGTON had no intention of speaking upon
this petition when he entered the House, but felt himself
called upon to rise in order to set right a statement just
made reercting some of our Bishops, and their mode of
performing their duties. His Hon. Friend the Member
for Callington hail stated to the House that the Bishop of
Llandaff, who possessed but a small income from his dio-
cese, resided constantly in London, swing to his being
unable to provide himself with a suitable residence in his
diocese in Wake. Now he (Dr. Lushington) could in-
form the Rouse from his own knowledge, that that meri-
torious prelate had held it to be his duty to hire it his own
expense a residence within his Bishopric, and had gone
down to it last summer, for the express purpose of per-
forming his episcopal duties. Next, as to the residence
of the venerable Bishop of Hereford at Winchester. When
the House cousidered that that prelate was now past 80
years of age, and that he had discharged his duties its a
most exemplary manner when his health and strength per-
mitted, 'he thought that it would hardly expect a man of
his advanced age to do more than what he now did. It
was only last year that lie had gone down to his own dio-
cese, though with great pain and suffering to himself._
(Hear, hear.) But then, said hie Hon. Friend, " There
are sees of which the incomes either are, or shortly will
he, 100,0001. a-year." Now last year they had had be-
fore them a Bill for the purpose of enabling the Archbi-
shop of Canterbury to raise a sum of money fur the repair
of Lambeth Palace and other purposes therein specified.
Upon that occasion it was proved that his whole income
did not exceed 32,0001. That was the greatest amount
of income enjoyed by any English Bishop. Neither the
see of York nor the see of Durham was worth any such
sum. The revenues of the see of Durham, he was as-
sured upon good authority, had never exceeded 22,0001. a
year. As to the revenues of the-Bishepric of London, oe
must admit that they were on the increase. What might he
the consequence of building on the land belonging to that
see, he could not pretend to tell : but be was of opinion
that the most sanguine calculator could not anticipate
any thing at all approximating to such an incense as
his Hon. Friend had just stated from the buildings
recently constructed. With respect to the church of Ire-
land, he had only a few words to say. The Noble Lord
on the other side of the House thought it a defect in the
discipline of that church that curates were not licenced as
soon as they received their curacies. Now there was no
such defect in Its discipline as he imagined. If the Noble
Lord would look at a small volume, by a writer who pos-
sessed as much talent and ability as any Bishop who had
ever sat upon the bench,—if he would look at the first
charge which Horsley, Bishop of St. Asaph, delivered to hie
Clergy,—he would see that the Bishop told them, in words
as plain as could be, that if they continued to employ
curates without licence*, he woald proceed against them,
one and all, as the law directed. The licensing of curales
was, in his opinion, a matter of -treat importance; and
he could wish that greater attention was paid to it
throughout the country. He could enure the Noble Lord
that the employment of curates without liceuces was not
the discipline of the church of England ; on the contrary,
express provision was made that no man should perform
permanent duty in any of °trr churches er chapels without
receiving either institution as incumbent, or licence as
a3's
proceeded
to so
observe our
curate. That provision was one Of the best safeguards if
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greatest writers upon eceleeisetical matters. The Learned
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In ceorttaaicn-
! cord exactly with those avowed by either of the tiro par-
' cases he considered church property to be individual pro-
petty, as in the case of advowsons; in other cases be
looked upon it as public property. As to altering the pre-
' sent system of distribution, that war a project to which
he, for one, could never consent. With respect to the
church of Ireland,—and be might also add with respect to
the church of England,—he agreed with those who said,
that pluralities and non-residence were the source of great
mischief and inconvenience. He would accede with plea-
sure to any Measure which would put a stop to the viva num-
ber of pluralities and non-residencies which existed at present.
He had often considered whether it might net be expedient

to pass joreepective law, enacting "that no clergyman who
should be ordained after a certain day, should be pet mitted te
Itold a plurality of livings, unless they were so contiguou
as to enable him, whilst residing upon one, to perform in
person the dati,s of all. To any remedial measure which
should compel the residence of the clergyman who received
the prefits of the living, no one could be more friendly
than himself. The residence of the ineumbent was the
greatest blessing that could happen to a parish. He had
nen the advantage of it over and over again in England ;
and, think God, it had latterly been exemplified in Ireland
also. By the various measures which the Right Hon.
Gentlemanopposite had introduced into and tiareleti through
Parliament since he had been in settee, he bad effected—
and what was more, he had beett the. first person who had
effected—a great reformation in the church of Ireland.
So far as related to the introduction of me cures beneficial
to that church, the Right Hon. Gentleman haal accom-
plished a great and permanent good: there was a time—
it was in vain to deny it—its which every appointment in
the church of Ireland was regularly bought and sold. At
the Union, a number of appointments to offices in the
Church were made, without regthl to anything except the
interest which could be etecured by them. Of late years
that system bad beets departed from, and the duties of the
church had, in consequence, been verfoernnd more de-
storously sad more beneficially than berme, When be saw
the church thus ameliorating, not, indeed, so rapidly as he
could wish, but still at any rate progressing, he could not
help hesitating before he gave his consent to arty strong
measure which, under the name of revision, might effect a
revolution in its constitution and discipline.
Lord OXMANTOWN had no doubt that the learned
eivilian had correctly explained the law to him : but it
the law respecting the licensing of curates were such
he had stated, it was at present unknown in Ireland. Ile
was himself acquainted with a case, in which a clergyman
heel faithfully performed the duties of a curate for five
years. During the whole of that time he never could
mimed in obtaining a licence from his rector, and at the
end of it he was dismissed without any cause being as-
signed for his dismissal.
After a few observations from General HART, which
were inaudible in the gallery, the petition was read.
On the question that it be laid on the table,
Mr. BARING said, that from the observations which
had just fallen from his Hon. and Learned Friend, be was
afraid that he had unintentionally used expressions which
reflected on the conduct of the Rev. Prelates, where names
he had mentioned in his former speech. He assured the
House that if he had used such expressions, it was most
unintentionally. No one could entertain a higher re-
spect than he did for the Ilishop of Hereford ; anti he fully
agreed with his Hon. and Learned Friend, that so long as
he had health and strength, no Prelate woe more anxious
to perform his duty to the congregations committed to his
charge. The usefulness of the Bishop of Llandaff 's la-
bouts
tilde that any duty which that Prelate undvrtook could
in any respeet be defective. In mentioning the names of
those illustrious Prelates, he hail no other object than to
give them that maintenente from their respective sees
which they ought to have for the support of their rank in
the church and is society. He believed that at no fore
mer period was the Rev. Bench more respectably filled
than at present. Still he thought it a great Inconvenience
that one Bishop should have only 1,600/, a-year, whilst
another had 32,0001. Such an arrangement did not con-
tribute to the preservation of their independence. Great
as the information of his Hon. and Learned Friend was
on subjects, he must say that in hie opinion his Hon, and
Learned Friend strangely under-rated the incomes of the
sees of the church. He had judged of the amount from
their ordinary income, and had not taken into his consi-
deration the fines paid to them for renewal of leases,
which were considered as part of their extraordinary in-
come, though sonic fell in every year. He knew that
some sees received in this manner mere than three times
the amount of their ordinary income.
Sir R. INGLIS concurred in the observations so penis
nently made by the Hon. and Learned civilian who had
just addressed the House. From every information which
he had been able to acquire, the Hon. and Learned civilian
was perfectly correct in the ertuximum of income which he
Led assigned to the different sees of Canterbury, York,
end Durham, arising not only from ordinary, but also from
extraordinary receipts. The income of the Bishops in
Ireland had been so grossly exaggerated, that if he were to
say that it approached a fourth part of the sum which was
ordinarily stated, be too should be guilty of gross exaggera-
tion. With regard to the Bishop of Hereford, he had en-
joyed the satisfaction of being known to that venerable
Prelate for the last twenty-seven years, and, in point of
fact, was under great obligations to him. Last year behest
gone down to Hereford, and had resided three months in
his diocese. Ile hoped that no further reference would be
made to this subject until they had upon the table the re-
port of the ecclesiastical commission, which had been re-
. centl7 appointed.
The petition was then laid on the table. On the ques-
tion that it be printed,
Mr. HUME took the opportunity of complaining that
two of the Right Hon. Gentlemen on the opposite benches
had strangely misrepresented what he had stated respect-
ing church property. He would never shrink from lan-
guage which he had uttered; but he thought it a little too
bad to hear language palmed upon him which he bad never
used. There was all the difference imaginable between
the property belonging to Deans and Chapters and the pro-
.perty which private individuals had in advowsons. He

wished that the vested interest of every incumbent and of
every advaweon should be held sacred. His observations
merely applied to church property belonging to Bishops,
Deams, and Chapters, and other ecclesiastical corporations.
The result of this debate satisfied him that some further
inquiry was necessary, and he trusted that Ministers would
institute it speedily.
The petition was ordered to be printed.
IRISH VESTRIES.

Mr. O'CONNELL rose to call the attention of the
House to the Statute of the 7th of George IV., the opera.
tion of which was considered vexatious and oppressive by
the great body of the people of Ireland. The House must
be aware that numerous petitions had been presented
against the Statute. The representation of the bad odour
in which the Statute was held amongst the people of Ire-
land did not depend on his own statement. He observed

in a newspaper an tie'count of a meeting held in a church
at 'Galway, over which an Archdeacon of the established
church presided, for the purpose of petitioning against the
Act. The Chairman on that occasion declared that a Ma-
gistrate on the bench had described the Vestry Act to be
en abominable substitute for. the penal laws. He (Mr.
O'Connell) would not apply such strong language to the
Statute, but would content himself with declaring it to be
an invasion of private rights. The Act enabled Protestants
to assess parishes to any amount for the building or re-
building of churches and chap&s, and for the due perform—
ance of divine worship. It also excluded Roman Catholics
from any interference in vestries in those natters. Up to
the passing of the Act Roman Catholics were only excluded
from voting in vestries with respect to the building of
clinches, and not with respect to the re-building of
churches and chapels. The Act nu titer gave the Bishop of
the diocese power to tax both the Protestant and Catholic
inhabitants, for by the 23d section it was provided that
the Bishop might assess parishes to any amount he thought
proper for the building and re-building of churches
and chapels, and for other purposes connected
with the due performance of divine worship.—
The partial and unjust operation of the Act must
he manifest when the House reflected that in many
psrishr:s in Ireland the proportion which Protestants bore
to Catholics was extremely small, and in some there were
no Protestants at all. It was unjust in principle to make
the members of one religious persuasion build churches for
those of another; but in the Bill which he intended to
move for leave to introduce, he proposed to make no alte-
ration in that respect. lie would leave the established
ehurch in possession of all the power which they ought to
have. All he desired was, to give to every man who was
compelled to pay rates the power of expressing his opinion
as to the propriety of their imposition and application.
It might he said, that if Citholics voted upon those sub-
jects is vestries, the interests of the Protestant Church
would be neglected. Ile denied that there was any danger
of that. If a pertinacious and unjust opposition should
he offered to the building or re-building of a Protestant
church, an application for a mandamus n lght be made
to the King's Bench, and the whole expenFe of the pro-
ceeding would fall on the party or parties opposing the

measure. It was notorious that many abuse; prerailed
under the present system ; but he would not now enter
into any details respecting them. His great object was to
relieve one class of his Majesty's subjects from tie neces-
sity of keeping their pockets open for another class to put
their bands in. He concluded with moving for leave to
bring in a Bill to alter and amend the laws relating to
Ve►tries in Ireland.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that as he was the person who introduced and conducted
through the House the measure which bad been so often
attacked, he might be allowed to say a few words in its
defence. When the Statute was passed, it was generally
acknowledged to be an improvemect of the law which had
previously existed, and an alleviation of the burdens and
obligations of that class whose cause the Hon. Member
particularly professed to advocate. It received the appto-
hation of men who.wcre as jealous of the interests of the
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