The Sun.
London, England, 1830-12-04 00:00:00

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What ;4 r biircr.tlll,, ,any ,
Epa4)111" Pird,o at!
age,
At 4i.c Moo, tittr, Veyruntiet, 'to-ft,te th i inif
begat., ~,iworeedo tha he Oitotil.l mike two of I,ophi
tm've on ell novo:iota Oat prove pr,j4,!ie.,;.-.1 to rho
xentral iisue or tile eitll'Aeo.
„DO }OU acknovlolgu your aignature at. the hottottt of
!rpm t to the King which preOeit the uttlinanol ?—Yea.
Do you alao acknowledge your Ogoature at the but:
tom of the ordinance tor the atinu.obiott Of the periodical
DO you acknowledge your hignature et the bottom of the
copy of the ordinmee announcing the dieitdution of tite
Chamber of Deputies?.—Nee.
De you acknowtolge your signature at the bottom a
dot ordinance relative to the convocation of the electoral
4•ol4ges ?—Yes,
DO you acknowledge your signature at the bottom of
the copy of en ordinance dated July 25, (the same date mu
the preceding) for the establishment of a new system of
elections ?..—Yee.

Can you tell us who is the author of thy report, to the
King I—l am not the author of it.
fhtfl you any ohm to the report
tiered to it.

)—No : I merely ad-

Had you any share in the ordinance concerning the
pension of the periodical Press ?—I am not the author of
the ordinance, but I adhered to it.
Can you tell us who is the author of it ?...:-It is not pr?...:-Ito.
par that I thould tell you.
Had you any share in the ordioance auttounciog the
4liaeolutiou of the Chamber of Deputies F—Yes ; the
plan's of conduct having been once agreed upon, I drew
tsp the ordinance.
In the Council did you participate in the ordinance for
the convocation of the electoral colleges ?—Yes.
In the Council did you participate in the ordinance de-
claring Pavia to be in a state of siege •
Can you tell us who proposed that measure?—No;
ought not to tell you.
At what period was the plan of the report and of the
ordinanoes first conceived?-..! do nut know when she plan
was first proposed, but as to its adoption, it only took
place a few days before the 25th of.lnly.
Who are the authors of that plan?—The fact is, that I
mat* telk you, for I do out know myself.

As row lied formed the project of dittiolving the Chun.
her ot Deputiee, and eutpasuling the Charor, wily did
you heote lettere of efinvoestion to the Members of heti,
Chan hart ?-1 novo! intended to pattinipate ir, soy tue4.
low tending to subvert t4si Charter. In regard to the die.
triluitlon of the letters, the eignature of the King on tite
originals preceded the adoption of doe project of theeolti
time lad they • wire forwarded telail.t that project waif yet
sailer deliberation.

Why wig the.l)take dw ;ow charged with the tout.
wand Of 440 firm Itlilitioy di vti4o44 Ise.eat-1Y as the 25th of
July have nothing to ilowith till* delcrioirtation, and
only heciana acquainted with it when it hall hem taken.'
However, I believe that you are deceived in the iitte. his
nomination must have Winn place alter the publication of
the. ordittautais. •
Do you know what ilittnictioaa {vere giver. to the Mar-
shal?-11 nut only ttad no abate in them, of they are posi.
sleety unknown to me up to the present moitiera.
Who save the order to firoupon the people ott tint littnii
nt July?-4 do Hot knots/.
Can you tell tan who ordered the troupaOf !Allocate and
fit. Otner to march to Atria lowidesi these ordmi
wino ant .144toittcd to the Council.

Were not tite largessest distritutte4 to tile troops intended
to induct, tionn to fire on thefeoplen-1 do not know.
Dud nut the Council resoletti upon re.estittili,hing the
rotas prevutsks ?—No,
ilad not the COUtira tivl;ilo+l upon the arrestiog
certain number oif Dttputiesl"—No, never et tiny period,
"intuitser In regard to the Deputies or tiny one else,

COUNT Llg CiUEIMOK. WON VILLE,
What to yOur toruatha, l3triatian name., your Age, and
ornitty?-114owtiot Conwe-Aoinitoot Porpotuo Alogistiw
Omits Outtnon die i wovAttttt 01t yoowo hi ago, Ex.-Itlia:rttr,
Deputy of Stnitor-ow.Lotwe.
Do you neknoielottgo your lonnotture at the Whttoto of the
#ppot t to tin, King 4/441 ittet.44*4l tha oplimatice of who
Itrwth of July ?—Yew.
flu you oeknowlettge )tint *inhalant At tho bottom ht
* ,Avoi tU istlitt'Ae ti,at tte ilia „
Ow Om.

the ordinance relative to the suspension of the liberty e
the press?---Yes,
Do you acknowledge having signed the copy of an-t•r-

rtinance, certified to be confortuible to and
signed " Count tie Peyronnet," concerning the dissolu-
tion of the Choriber of Deptitirii?—No ; f believe that
the Alen-there'd the Conned only signed thre-3 pieces; tit,
report of the King relative to the preset, the ordinance for
the stisperNion of the liberty of the prets, and the
mince relative to the establishment of a new electoial

system.
Can you tell us who is the author of the report to t'
Kink►?—No, I cannot ; this is a fact which does 1,
irrern myself in pat molar, and 1 c.ainot reveal tl
Secrets of the King's Council.

Did you participate in the ordinance for the su.pension
of the freedom of :the' pm', and the establishment of
a new electoral system ?-e-I never made any differenee
between public and private morality. The King could
not overthrow the constitutional charter without vio-
lating : his oaths, .and this consideration alone in
ilutwd me to oppose the erdieance respecting the new sys.
tent tif election.: As for the ordinance on the press, though
it 'wait only intended to suspend the execution of a
measure which, in cases of urgency, and when the safety
of the ittee requires it, seems to the not to exceed tb
limits of the Royal prerogstive ; I also oppmed it because
I did not think that the case of urgency did, really exist
and I consequently proposed to the Council to let the
Chambers assemble en the 3tl of August, and then to lay
before them those ameliorations which our legislation nn
the picas required. I ditclosed the whole of my opinion
on that subject to M. Courveieier, my former colleague, at
the very . moment when' the measures in question were
proposed.
At what period were the report and the ordinances first
planned ?-e-I believe, though I cannot affirm positively,
that the principle on which the ordinances are grounded
was proposed for the first time in a Cabinet Council held
between the Mit awl the 15th of July. In regard to
the report, the whole of it was only read in the Council
on the ebth of July, the same day that we signed the
ordinances.

Can yon,tell us who first made that proposition be-
tween the 10th and 15th of July ?—I cannot answer this
question.
As you intended to dissolve the elective Chamber, and
to suspend the charter, why did you issue the letters of
convocation?-1 believe that the distribution of the writs
took place in consequence of an error of the bureaux.
Why was Or Duke of Ragusa invested with the corn-
mand of the first military division on the 27th of July ?-
1 Believe it was because the troubles began on that day.
- Do you know what were his instructions but I
believe they were of a very moderate nature, for in th,.
different orders I heard him give, he always recommended
not to make- use of force, unless it became necessary for
self defence. • _ _

Do you know who gave the order to fire on the people
on the 27th of July ?—No.
Did you advise the measure which placed Paris in a
state of *lege ?—I did not attend any deliberation relative
to that subject.
Are you not acquainted with any extraordinary lergesaes
given to the trove to induce them to fire on the people ?
No; I do not know of any determination of that kind.

11 ul. nut the Council resolved upon re.establithing the
Prevost Courts?—Not

Had not tho Council also decided upon' the arrest of a
great number of Deputies and other persons?—No ; never
any sweat rroposition wa• made in the Council, and I do
not thick that any one ever thought of it.