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London, England, 1839-02-12 00:00:00

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ARRIVALS.
Mr. and Mrs. Silveiter and family, at the Sackville Hotel, Sack-
Itle.street, from Edinburgh, Mrs. Winner and daughters, at
gift°, from Bath ; the Hon. E. Yorke, M.P., and Mrs. Yorke, in
}44efolk-street, from Cambridgeshire ; Lord Norreys, in Llanover-
ki,laare, from his seat Wytham Abbey, Abingdon ; Sir Thomas
Dike Acland, Bart., M.P., and Lady Aeland, in Brook-street, from
Ltheir seat Killerton Lodge, Devon ; Viscount Stormont, in Lang-
-"lhsta-Place, from Scone Palace, the seat of the Earl of Mansfield,
"" Perthshire; Sir P. M. Egerton, in St. James's-square, from his
'eat in Cheshire; the Hon. R. H. Clive, M.P., in llill.street, from
Ireland Lord Milton, at Mortimer House, Belgravo- square, front
wentworth House, Yorkshire ; Mr. Duff, M.P., in Pall-mall, from
Visit to Sir Alexander and Lady Duff at Paris ; the Lord Ad.
mate
Scotland and Mrs. Murray, in Arlington-street,
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Edinburgh ; Mr. Anstruther, at Lady Anstruther's,
attd elli,.aPeLstreet, from a tour; James Bradshaw, M.P.,
'urs. Bradshaw, in South-street, Grosvenor.square
tios- marchioness of Londonderry and the Ladies Vane Stuart, at
andklerdesse-house, Park-lane; the Earl and Countess of Aylesford,,
sait, Ladies Finch, in Grosvenor-street, from his Lordship's
8n rarkington hll Warwickshire • the Honourable Major-Ge-
-70:20rY Lyg-ona, in Grosvenor-plac'e, from his seat, Spring-hill,
A,WaY, Worcestershire ; Lord Braybroke, in Burlington-street
Z.; &udleY-end, Essex • the Lord Bishop ef Elphin, from St. Leo-
ICs-on-Sea ; Lord Ros'smore, from his seat, Shanavouge, county
ear"gban; Sir David Roche, from his seat, near Limerick ; Lord
ItiarblialLt°ll in Whitehall_ and from his seat, 'Wycombe Abbey ; the
Honourable Henry Ellis, in Mancheater-street, from a conti-
tica"t tour ; the Marquis of Lothian, at Warren's Hotel, from his
Charles New Battle Abbey, Midlothian ; Lieutenant-General Sir
~ Dalbiac, in the Albany Chambers ; the Dowager. Countess
otat'eioninel and the Ladies Scott, at their new residence, in Eaton-
qUia ; Mr. Evart Gladstone, M.P., in Carlton-gardens; the Mar-
-8,..1.°F Granby, in Bolton-street, from Ashby-de-la.Zonche; Lord
"'in SPring-gardens, from Berkeley Castle.
„.„ DEPARTURES.
far -u4teellency DEPARTURES.
far Countess Woronzow, from Piccadilly,
Copilt°n House, near Salisbury, on a visit to the Dowager-
lira --,f" of Pembroke; Sir Charles Knightley, Bart., M.P., from
th:-°:-street, for Oxfordsbih ; the Hon. J. 0. Murray, for Bath ;
I;ari and Countess of Chesterfield, from Chesterfield llouse, for
Cou,t'eat, Abingdon Abbey, Northamptonshire ; the Earl and
Sarr:" of Eldon, from liamilton-place, for Shirley, their seat in
shit; ;‘. the Earl of Dunmore, from Belgrave-square, fbr
Wilt-
s 1„"'ord and Lady Seymour, from St. James's_street, for their
arat'lrcliden Bradley', Wilts; the Earl and Countess Bruce, from
the ti"•street, for their seat Savanache Ledge, near Marlborough;
deacon"' *Captain Blackwood, from the Sackville Hotel ; Arch-
tf'd Mrs. King, from ditto ; Mr. and Mrs. Nash, from ditto;
warti--seY, from ditto ; Mr. and Mrs. Stapleton, from ditto ; Lord
bray, et,r, from Bute House, South Audley-street, for Melton Mow.
tonsd—", al and Lady Chesterfield, for Abingdon Abbey ; Lord
teat Loner
from Charles-street, Berkeley-square, for his hunting
'.oweCstb more;".l Lord Suffield, from the Clarendon Hotel, for
kluare 1-141, Melton Mowbray; Lord Wilton, from Grosvenor_
4certon Lodge, Leicestershire; the Dowager. Countess
to '"dore, for Buckingham House, Brighton; Lord Leveson,
leraptolvevn7sltire House, on a visit to Lord and Lady Rivers, at
Pr!

114,1-4innee Paui Lieven, First Secretary to the Rus-
e„:43. IT, arrived at Ashburnham House, at a late hour on Sun.
'rola itogfrora P.sris. In coming up the river in the steamer
telir ~,Ca,."das the vese.el lost one of her paddles,•and was obliged to
the rest 'or the Essex ahore. The Prince and his servant performed
to eo„,°f the voyage is; a Gravesend steam vessel, which was hailed
Y tire passengers to town.
Ladi.ne alike and Duchess of Bedford and the
Yeste•-8 Russell arrived at the Noble Duke's villa, at Camden Hill,
kramMaY, front Woburn Abbey, for the season. Lord and Lady
Visitor ,
keke Mrs.. and the Misses Morler, and the other fashionable
01; W4O have heen sojourning at the Abbey have returned to
Tie:Peettve xeSidences.
hsterde i)uhe and Duchess of Beaufort, left town
4YrOt d Abbey, on a visit to the Earl and Countess of
ette linon
dictt
T " eidhe
Earl' :and Countess of Sefton will receive a
14t guished 'Amity at Croxteth Park, near Liverpool, during the
p, Week of the
'4lO, _ Present month, when the " Grand Liverpool Steeple
`" Place.
0r 1 I
%tie, -cihn Russell's Saturday Parliamentary
th, 6 'a Will not talro. place until after the Easter recess, owing to
Theee,vere domestic calamity which his Lordship has sustained.
sWe st-"ng Of the Noble Secretary's infant daughter, who is,
.46--;ativ"etrstand, bear the name of Victoria, and to whom her
be ari;444_te° atarsd sponsor, will, it is understood, not take place till
111 c of spring.
ti: Earl of Albemarle entertained a party of
p dinner on Sunday evening, in
.Berkeley-square.
hiscrTice Esterhazy, we hear, is likely to return. to
t 2,1 'lce duties h 're at Easter. The Princess Esterhazy
Irioud-,"e't on her mother, the Princess of Tour and Taxis, who is
y 'Y indisposed at Ratisbon.
isiOr
" and Lady Poltimore left Sharpham, their
V~tAgo,. on F •
`,l-,: end Viscountsnda y;
for Cricket Lodge, Chard, on a visit to
LlPected in town. Bridport. The Noble Lord and Lady are
Earl and Countess of Carlisle and the
b'ber: I"ward leave Italy at the close of this month, for Paris,
"ratitl,. will be :joined shortly after their arrival by the Duke of
f„ -
hoe anti the Earl and Countess of Burling
ton and their
the l Tt is the intention of the above family circle to remain in
1.414,1-'' Capital for two months, and then come to town.
funeral Francis Egerton did not attend the
,
.4kily I°. late Duchess-Countess of Sutherland, as stated. The
tel town for Oatlands, Surrey.
°4lltdr°4 a e Handel, attache to the embassy, and
ltoie hburg, Austrian liiin!ster at Brussels, arrived at Mi-
afri de pia Saturday, with despatches for his Excellency Count
.h, the Austrian Speciiil Minister.
th, %‘l:tul 'ce and Duchess of Leeds, accompanied
""atAtr-Duchess arrived at the Clarendon Hotel, Bond-
%so, °O Friday evening, from Hornby Castle, Yorkshire, for the
T
tt he C:htse:v.aii•er Charles Engelman has been ap-
'l"l ed
Secretary to. the Embassy of Baron Munchansen, the Hano.
r ls
Will
Highness Prince Ferdinand Trauttsman-
Iti;
a gran& dinner at • the Clarendon Hotel, on Friday,
41) 'ln"
Letatento.ein, Baron Lowenberg (of the suite of the Duke
,ucea), and sever II foreigners of distinction. yesterday the two
Insa, " and suite left town for Melton Mowbray, where they will
14ring the week with Lord Suffield's hounds.
4•TAL ACCI DENT ON THE NORTH UNIOg
)414:' Y.--On Thursday afternoon, as the train which leaves
i,ro
elt‘ •
aster for this town at a quarter before three, was proceeding
n3o urney, an accidei it took place which was attended with fatal
f ,I‘ills nem On the train arriving at Coppul station, the en.
ter and that he had gone some yards past the place of stopping,
0411 wl. *eh be put the train backwards, when a man of the name
III; nth Calderbank, residing at Chat neck Richard, who was stand_
ii ° the, direction of the train, was knocked down, and run over
gal" veral cm-riages. He was killed on the spot. Another person
1,40.. also k no,,ked down, but not hurt. We understand that no
whatever attached to any of the parties conducting the train.
.444,4 Co-marrow will be the anniversary of one of the
iroPertsnt events iii the history of this country—the revolution
'pi 38.

NATIONAL CONVENTION.
YESTERDAY.

Dr. FLETCHER in the chair.
The minutes of the last day's proceedings being read,
some new members were introduced, and a great many
notices of motion were given by different members.
Mr. FEARGUS O'CONNOR introduced one, " That if any
member of the Convention should take office he would
cease to be a member on so doing." He said that the Report
which be had made in the county of the proceedings of last
week was received with very great satisfaction, the unanimity
of their proceedings was hailed with the greatest delight, in
proof of which he said that the collection of the national
rent was going to commence in every part.
Dr. WADE begged to ask a question, as he saw the
Birmingham Delegates in their places : did the Notting-

ham petition come from Birmingham to town? lie had a
letter from Nottingham, desiring information on this qucs•
tion. He was told by Mr. Collins that it had come up and
was ready for presentation.
Mr. VINCENT handed in 131. rent from Hull and 5/. from
Cheltenham. Another Delegate gave in 51. from Bristol.
Mr. RICHARDSON had advice that 101. had been sent into
the Manchester Council from Bervly.
The Secretary read a petition from a Dr. Webb, on
the appointment of two Coroners for Middlesex.
.Mr. F. O'CONNOR said this petition could not be en-
tertained. They were not the National Convention, al-
though some persons termed them so.
Dr. TAYLOR, upon the Secretary calling for the Re-
port of the Committee appointed to frame an Address to
the People, said that he had much satisfaction in telling
the Meeting that the Report was ready, but that they
thought it better to have it printed, for the purpose of
having it distributed among the Members.
Mr. CARPENTER was asked what time it would be ready.
He said by to-morrow.
Dr. TAYLOR—Then we shall be able to report on
Wednesday. _ _

A long ciscussion took place upon the propriety of re-
ceiving it on that day, as the motion of Mr. O'Brien would
take precedence of all others.
Dr. TAYLOR stlid that the importance of the address
should be considered before any other business, but if it met
the approval of the meeting he would take any other day
for presenting it.
Mr. O'BRIEN was willing to forego his motion, as this
was certainly a measure of importance.
The Committee for waiting on Members of Parliament
gave in their report, it was as follows :
In performing the duty entrusted to them, they thought
it right to unite three delegates in sub-committee, who,
together, would call on every Member of Parliament named
in the list handed over to each sub-committee. If, in ex-
amining these lists, any delegate should be of opinion that
they have greater influence over other Members of Parlia-
ment than those named in their lists, an exchange may
be made with other sub-committees. As some of the de-
legates who form the sub-committee are about to leave for
the country, old others have arrived, the places of those left
may be supplied by those come to town.
The Committee beg leave to suggest respectfully to
each sub-committee the propriety of recording, with great
care, the answers of the different Members of Parliament
to the questions put to them, so that should it be deemed
expedient on any future occasion the answers may be made
known to the different constituencies and to the country.

That this Report be adopted, was moved by Mr SKIF-.
FINGTON, and seconded by Mr. DOUGLAS, and passed with-
cut any discussion.

Mr. COBBETT moved that the Report of the Missionary
Committee should be read and adopted. But on the mo-
tion of Mr. O'Connor, it was ordered that it should be re-
fered again to the Committee for further consideration.
Upon the motion of Mr. J. P. COBBETT, the report of
the Committee appointed to select a door-keeper was re-
ceived, and accordingly appointed Henry Crabtree to that
situation.

Dr. TAYLOR inquired whether the report would be Bert
back to the Committee without instructions.

Mr. O'BRIEN moved an amendment, "That the report
be sent back to the Committee, and that the Committee
be augmented by the five following gentlemen :—Mr.
O'Connor, Mr. Douglas, Mr. Richardson, Mr. M'Douel,
and Mr. Deegan." He observed that it appeared
to him that some of the gentlemen feared to say what
they meant. He understood one of the objections to be, that
the gentlemen composing the Committee had elected
themselves. Another objection had arisen from a report in
circulation, the Attorney-General had pronounced it illegal
to send forth missionaries.
Mr. PITKEITHLEY seconded the amendment.

Mr. O'CONNOR objected to the report on two grounds; _
first, on the law of the case, and then on the point of
expenditure. He hoped the Committee would be now
enlarged. It was not because he apprehended secrecy, ho
wished the Commitee to be enlarged for the purpose of
facilitating discussion.
Mr. CARPRNTER begged to say for himself and the Com-
mittee, they had done what they considered right. Ho
could not of course object to receive the aid of other
gentlemen.
Mr. VINCENT objected to the amendment. He had al-
ready sent information to the country based on the report.
He thought it would be preferable to rescind the report
altogether, and to allow each individual to act as he
thought proper.
Mr. 0' CONNOR said he would accede to the amend-
ment of Mr. O'Brien. He otjected to the suggestion of
Mr. Vincent.

Mr. RICHARDSON observed they were pleased to ridicule
his legal knowledge on Friday. lie was glad to see they
were coming back to it. He had since seen a legal gen-
tleman who had promised to obtain an opinion on the lega-
lity of employing paid assistants. An opinion had been
obtained on the same question relative to the Agricultural
Association. It was then pronounced illegal to send out
missionaries.

Mr. DOUGLAS said if there were any doubt as to the
legality of the proceedings, the course to be taken would
be to seek information in the proper way, by paying for it.
He would suggest that the Committee be authorised to do
so. —( Here Mr. O'Connor stated the Committee had done
so.) With regard to questions of legality, he would say
that should it ever be their unhappiness to appear before a
.Jury, their best defence would be to show that on every
occasion they had consulted the laws with reference to
their proceedings.
The amendment was then put to the meeting, and car-
ried unanimously.
Mr. CORBETT observed that the Committee of Rules
and Regulations had not yet been able to complete their
report. Mr. Hadley had told him that the rules and regu-
lation for the government of the Convention were referred
exclusively to that Committee. He had heard it stated
that they were not fully authorised.
Mr. CARPENTER thought it most important that the
power of that Committee should be defined. He therefore
requested that the original resolution respecting that Corn-
mitte might be read. (The resolution was accordingly
read.)
Mr. PITKEITULEY stated that the question re-
specting the employment of missionaries ought to
have been referred to that particular Committee. If
any thing concerned the actions of the Convention it
was most certainly the employment of missionaries. He
considered it one of the most important duties they had to
fulfil. He was anxious to create as large a field of agita-
tion—be, of course, meant legal agitation—as possible.
As that question was going back to the Committee, he
thought the question ought not to be dismissed prema-
turely. The Committee was appointed to lay down rules
for regulating the future government of the Committee.
A most important duty, which he thought had not been
properly carried out.
Mr. WHITTLE did not think the question had been stated
as clearly as it ought. The first thing Mr. Cobbctt had
done in that Convention was to ask whether any steps had
been taken to lay down rules for the regulation of the Con-
vention. The question was discussed and decided. The
Committee had not that power. He thought it would be
desirable to enlarge its power, or to form a new Committee.
Mr. COBBETT said this was an important point. He
would read the resolution passed on that occasion. The
powers of that Committee had been discussed, and its ex-
tent decided.
Mr. HADLEY said that it was suggested that the
Committee should be enlarged, or its power aug-
mented. He could not believe that the Convention would
submit to the decision of the Committee as to how they
should act under all circumstances.

Mr. PITKEITHLY saw clearly, that if Mr. O'Connor
were allowed to proceed, it would be an extensive discussion.
Mr. O'CoNNoa observed that no words could be more
comprehensive than those of the resolution; namely, " It
is resolved that a Committee be appointed to draw
up from time to time rules and regulations for the go •
vernment of the Convention, and to take legal advice
on those subjects as speedily as possible."
Mr. O'BRIEN said there were distinct Committees ap-
pointed for both subjects—the mixing of these matters. had
led to confusion.
Mr. HETHERINGTON thought, if he heard aright the
Committee was appointed for the purpose of drawing
up rules and regulations for the government of the
Convention, and to see that such roles were legal. It ap-
.•

peared to him that Mr. Cobbett viewed that meeting as
having power that would entirely supersede the Convention.
Mr. DOUGLAS said the Committee was merely a Com-
mittee for the formation of rules and regulations. It was
to tell them (the Convention) how they were to act while
assembled. It had, for instance, decided wh,ther at the
end of each day's sitting they should adjourn or dissolve.
But that it should decide how they were to act on every
occasion had never entered the minds of any present.
It was then agreed to appoint Henry Crabtree, to the
office of door-keeper, and that he should act as mes-
senger to the Convention when compatible with his other
duties. _

Mr. SALT wished to know what hour should be fixed
on for the deputation to wait on the Members of Parliament.
Mr. O'CoNNoR (to whom the question was addressed)
said ten o'clock would be a proper hour. Some of them
might be found about four in the morning at Crockford's
and other similar places.— ( Much laughter.)
Bailie CRAIG rose to move " that an early day be ap-
pointed fur taking into consideration what ulterior steps
should be adopted for securing the interests of the
working classes, should the Convention fail to obtain
the National Charter." Mr. Craig supported his
motion, by observing that he was anxious that the
Convention should come to some understanding in order
to remove any erroneous opinions that might arise in the
minds of their friends and opponents. He was anxious
that tho people should see that they were not ne-
glecting their interests ; and that indifferent portions of the
community who remained unconvinced by their arguments
might learn the ulterior measures they would adopt, and
would give them their aid when satisfied that their object
wa legitimate.
Mr. COBBRTT seconded the motion.
Dr. TAYLOR objected to the motion. To express a
premature opinion as to ulterior steps would throw diffi-
culties in their way. He should therefore move that Mr.
Craig's motion be not considered until a deputation
of the Convention had waited on the members.
Mr. WitirrLE opposed the motion. When he advised the
people to petition the House, he had advised them to wait the
result. By considering ulterior measures, they announced
despondency to the people, and threw cold water on their
rising ardour.
Mr. DOUGLAS said the motion was a precursory ono;