The Sun.
London, England, 1839-11-15 00:00:00

WEDNESDAY MORNING.-EIGHTH DAY.

Magistrates present—Rev. James Coles (Chairman),
Octavius Morgan, George Hall, and William Brewer,
Esqrs., and R. J. Blewitt, Esq., M.P. ♦lso Maule,
Esq., Treasury Solicitor, W. T. H. Phelps, Esq.,
and Thomas Protheroe, Esq., Crown Solicitors, and
Thomas Jones Phillips, Esq., clerk to the Magistrates.
A communication was this morning received by T.
J. Phillips, Esq., clerk to the Magistrates, from Samuel
Homfray, Esq., the managing proprietor of Tredegar
Ironworks, where 5,000 men are employed, of which
the following is an extract :

" The minaunt of wages which the men at our works
receive, are as follows :—Miners and colliers, 225. to
245. per week ; furnacemen, 30s. ; pudlers and heaters,
355. ; rollers, 50s. to 60s. ; fitters.up, smiths, pattern-
makers, 255. ; carpenters, 21s. ; moulders, 245. ;
masons, 205.; labourers, 2s. to 25.4 d. per day. Our men
are now at work ; that is, those that are here ; but
there are a good many missing." It must he under-
stood there are but very few labourers employed there.
The first prisoner placed at the bar was Ebenezer
Williams, charged with harbouring Chartist traitors.
James Jones sworn and examined—l live in Victoria-
square. I am a special constable. I have known the
prisoner twelve years. He is a tiler and plasterer. He
keeps the Prince of Wales beer-house in Commercial-
road, in Newport. I have heard that Chartist meetings
have been held in his house. I heard there was one
held in his house on Friday night week. I heard it
from a man that works for him. I know that a large
room has been built adjoining his house for the purpose
of holding Chartist meetings. I was in the prisoner's
house on Thursday, the 7th of November. I asked the
prisoner's servant for a light of a candle. She told me
her master had built a new Chartist lodge, but it ap-
pears it will be of no use to him now, for the Chartists
run away." I was in the new room on the 7th of No•
vernber. I should think it would hold 200. I am no
Chartist. Ido not know the prisoner is a Chartist.
Chas. Groves sworn, and examined by Mr. T. J.
Phillips—l live in Pentonville, in the borough of
Newport. I am a painter and glazier. I have at-
tended Chartist meetings in this town. I attended a
fortnight or three weeks ago. I have not attended 011 D
since they were at the Prince of Wales, the prisoner's
house. I think I attended last yesterday fortnight. I
saw there Charles Waters, who has been committed for
high treason. I saw Henry Frost, the son of Mr. John
Frost, who has been committed for high treason. I saw
Mr. Townsend, the lawyer. there. Ido not know any
others who were there. I did not see the prisoner
there. There were about twenty persons in the room.
I did not hear any person address the meeting. I paid
a penny to Charles Waters that night ; it was for my
admission into the room. I picked up a newspaper
that was in the room, and read it. There were Vindi-
cators there as well. I did not read the Vindicator. I
saw no other papers there. I have seen Edward Frost
at one of the meetings ; I cannot tell which. I have
attended a meeting of boys in the same room. I have
been present once. About eight were present. I have
seen Henry Frost there. He was treas.' '""of the Boys'
Society. At the Boys' meeting Fir': \ any cards
delivered. 1 saw young Frost'" previous
to the riot% No convers4o Veen us.
I only passtl the Pit showed
me a card soon aft-
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card produced is

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Maria Sackarg;sworn y Mr. T. J.
Phillips—l am servant to the and lived there
a fortnight. He keeps a beet'. .=ailed the Prince
of Wales, in Commercial-road, o. isite the Salutation,
There is a large room attached to my master's house.
It has been used for holding Chartist meetings; it is
commonly called the Chartist-room. They met there
last Friday week. A great number of persons attended
that meeting ; the room appeared to be quite full.
There were about one hundred persons there. I have
seen a copy of the receipt for rent for that room. I saw
it lying on the dresser. My mistress took it up and
put it in her pocket. From that receipt it appeared
that the rent was 161. per year, paid by Mr. Charles
Waters, for Mr. Wells, for the rent of the room.
Mr. Wells rented the room for the Chartists from the
prisoner. Ido not know whether any money was paid
for admission to the meetings, I have never seen any
Chartist cards at the house. Last Sunday week the
prisoner said to my mistress that he was very sorry he
had let the room to such a set of scamps and vaga-
bonds, meaning the Chartists. I have not known a
meeting of boys held there. I have heard there has
been.

This closed the case for the prosecution.
Mr. Clarke then called

The Rev. James Francis—l am minister of St.
Paul's Church, in this town. I have known the pri-
soner upwards of four years. I have had some conver-
sation with the prisoner relative to a meeting that was
held in his house. I have had various conversations.
When I heard that Williams had let the room to the
Chartists I told him that I thought he was very wrong,
which would be sure to involve him in trouble. He
asked me what I had to do with it. The room had
cost him a considerable sum of money, and the Wharf
Company would not allow him to convert it into a
dwelling-house without paying extra ground rent, and
he could
i not afford to allow it to remain idle ; he there-
fore let tto the Chartists. I have known the prisoner
four years, and, with the exception of this Chartist busi-
ness, I have thought favourably of him.
William Davies examined by Mr. Clarke—l am a
mason, and reside opposite the prisoner. I have worked
with him. I have conversed with him respecting
Chartism many times in his own house, the first about
four months ago. He always detested the creed, and
said it would be much worse whenever it passed. He
has told me that he thought about making a reading-
room of the large room up stairs. He never told me
he had let it for a reading-room. He told me he had
let it for a warehouse to Mr. Wells. He lives in his
own house. It has been built eight or nine years. The
room has been covered in about three years.
Cross-examined by Mr. T. J. Phillips—Mr. Wells
is a merchant in this town. I have lived in
Newport nine years. Ido not know who attended
the meeting. I have seen people walking in the read.
I have seen Homer walking that way. I have seen
him having a glass of beer. I have seen Mr. Roche
there. Mr. Homer is a shoemaker. He is lame. He
sells newspapers. I have Lot seen him since the riot.
Mr. Roche is a Chartist. I have heard that he at-
tended the Chartist meetings. I have never seen
Henry Frost there. I do net know him. I am no
Chartist. I have never seen John Frost there. I
never was in the Chartist room.

The Rev. J. Coles then addressed the prisoner, and
said that, as no evidence had been brought forward to
prove he was a Chartist, he should bind him over in
his own recognizance in the sum of fifty pounds, to
answer any charge that may be brought against him at
the next general gaol delivery.
Samuel Victory and William Morgan were then
placed at the bar, charged with inciting the military to
desert.

Edward Dalton, private in her Majesty's 45th—I
have been twelve months a soldier. I know the pri-
soner Victory. I remember the 10th of October. I
was opposite the King's Head at five or six o'clock. I
met a man who welcomed three of us who were together
to town. Victory, the prisoner, was the man. He ap-
peared as if he had been drinking. He took the three
across the street into a public-house. He called for
four glasses of rum, one for himself and one for us three,
who were soldiers of the 45th. Each of us drank it.
He then ordered some more, another round ; that was
four glasses. Victory began a conversation about the
Charter business. He asked us to hold out in the manly
cause as they were holding out (we were speaking of
the Chartists), and by that means we should obtain
2s. 6d. a day. He asked me if things came to a point
whether we should fire on them, and I said that we
should do our duty as soldiers. None of the soldiers
paid for the rum. He ordered it. We stayed there
about ten minutes. He came as far as the door with us.
There we parted, and we came home to our barracks.
I have never seen him since.

Cross-examined by Victory's son—The prisoner was
not quite drunk when he took us into the house.