The Sun.
London, England, 1830-05-20 00:00:00

ST. DUNSTAN'S CHURCH.

Alderman WAITHMAN stated that the inhabitants
of St. Dunstan's had had a meeting on the subject
of the removal of the church, and the widening of
that part of Fleet-street. The Corporation had cut
down the sum proposed, as their part of the contri-
bution, from 6,0001. to 4,000/. The Commissioners
of Sewers had also reduced their offer from 6,0001.
to 4,0001.; but they had attached to that offer a con-
dition that the inhabitants should expend the sum of

10,000/. for the removal of four houses between
Messrs. Praed's, the bankers, and the Church.
After the manner in which the proposal of the in-
habitants had been met, they would take no further
steps in the matter.
Mr. SAVAGE said there had been one interruption
of worship upwards of ten months ago, and a pe-
remptory order had been received that they should
proceed with the Church. Unless something ‘A as
done at once, they must proceed to build the Church
in the old place, where it had been so long com-
plained of as a nuisance. The Trustees were ready to
meet any proposition for carrying the improvement
into effect.

Alderman ATKINS said it would be a great public
injury if the opportunity of making the improvement
were lost. He therefore moved that the Committee
of City Lands and the Commissioners of Sewers
should be requested to have a conference with the
Trustees of the Inhabitants, on the subject of means
for effecting the desired improvement.
The resolution was carried.

THE JEWS.
Mr. p,ELLATT then brought forward his motion
concerning the admission of the Jews to the privi-
leges of citizens. The question just decided in the
House of Commons was materially different from

that relating to the municipal rights of that people.
This measure would, ila fact, prepare Parliament for

granting the concessions which 'were still to be de-
layed. He moved that it be referred to a Com-
mittee to prepare a bye-law, that every person other-
wise entitled to the freedom of the City be admitted
upon . taking the freeman's oath, according to the
forms of his own religion.
Sir P. LAwttu objected to_the resolution, which,
he said, sanctioned the admission of the disciples of
Mahomet, or Southcote, or Carlile, or Taylor. He
believed those persons had a religion, though it
might be said they had not, for he believed they
wcrshipped moral truth. He did not wish that
those who had no religion that could be understood
should be indiscriminately admitted. He was
against breaking down all the barriers of the religion
of the country. He admitted at the same time that
the Jews were remarkable for their observance of
the virtues of sobriety and chastity.
Mr. Alderman WINCHESTER objected to the motion
in its present shape, because it was so indefinite that,
provided it should be adopted by the Court, it could
not, constitutionally speaking, be carried into effect.
The proposition of the worthy mover, Iv; he under-
stood, was to give certain privileges to those natural
born subjects professing the Jewish religion, and he
( Mr. Alderman Winchester) thought for consistency's
sake no other principle should have been included.
Under the present motion no classes of persons,
subjects of any State or Power either known to this
country politically or commercially, or even at pre-
sent not beard of, would be excluded, provided they
might think it their interest to become citizens of
London, and, as such, of consequence eligible for
election as Common Councilmen. He felt per-
suaded that Mr. Pellatt could not seriously intend
his measure to have so extensive an operation. He
(Mr. Alderman Winchester) could not help saying

that it was not very courteous to the Jews that,
in their efforts for emancipation, they should be
associated with such a motley group. He (Mr.
Alderman Winchester) would take the liberty to
recommend that a separate motion should be made
confining the object to the Jews, and then-the
same could be argued upon its own merits. For the
present he should refrain from saying any thing on
the general policy or principle of the measure, be-
cause another opportunity would offer for so doing,
before such a by-law as that propounded, affecting so
materially the City Charter, could be passed.
Mr. M. SCALES could not give a silent vote upon
the present occasion, and upon a subject -so in-
teresting as the present. Having been elected ex-
pressly because he professed opinions favourable to
civil and religious liberty, the present was a proper
opportunity for putting them in practice; for it
could not be denied that the present was a religious
question. Any person born in a distant part of
England could obtain the freedom of the city by
purchase, upon taking the oath prescribed; not so
a Jew, for he could not take the oath on account of
his religion. Having so recently, nay even at the
present day, been the victim of religious persecution,
and that touching my soul's health—(Laughter)—
and having completely purged it, and beCome clean—
(Loud laughter)-1 may fairly be taken as one of
the most orthodox, and therefore fully entitled to
speak upon this subject without imputation. The
worthy Knight, Sir Peter Laurie, has asked, would
the Court admit the various sects with which the
country abounds ? To which I answer yes, even
to the Southcotonians, and each by the oath by
which he will consider himself bound. The Jews,
the Quakers, the Catholics, and Moravians, are all
admitted witnesses upon such terms in our Courts
of Justice, without any injury resulting from it.
Are then our fellow-men to be deprived of their
civil rights merely from conscientious motives,
arising from local circumstances ? for I do
contend that religion mainly depends upon lo-
cal circumstances. If a child is born in Constanti-
nople he is a Mahometan ; if in Spain, a Catholic;
if on the Banks of the Ganges, a Hindoo; in
Duke's-place, a Jew; and if in a small village in
Derbyshire, as I was, a Protestant and a Church-
man. Do we not all know and feel the lasting im-
pressions that are made upon us by our parents at
that period when we have no mind to judge for our-
selVes, and when we have no power to resist such
impressions made upon us ? My Lord Mayor, I
Will call to the recollection of gentlemen the state
of alarm the country was in only two years ago---
not for fear the Catholics should obtain their civil
rights, but for fear they should rob us of our
gion—(Hear, hear)—and already in my neighbour-
hood even the old ladies are all become tranquil, and
taking their tea in peace and comfort, as happy as
if the Bill had never passed. The fright now is,
lest the Lord Mayor and Court of Aldermen should
all be circumcised—(Laughter, and order, order)—
in that case we are all well aware they would suffer
pain and some loss.—(Order, order.) Having been
the victim of religious persecution myself, and am
even at this moment, I can most willingly concede
toleration to others. I have been accused in the
Ecclesiastical Court of being a disciple of the Rev.
Mr. Taylor, a man whom I never saw above five
minutes in my life.
A MEMBER here rose to order, and said, we could
have nothing to do with the member's private law-
suits ; it was well known he had suits in the Eccle-
siastical Courts.
Yes (said Mr. SCALES), and I deem it one of the
severest satires upon our laws that a man cannot re-
sort to them either for redress or protection without
incurring public censure. I have an ecclesiastical
suit--but it is brought against me, not brought by
me. It is objected that the motion takes too wide
a range, and is not confined to the Jews alone. It
is precisely upon that ground that give it my sup-
port. I would have no disqualifications from a re-
ligious consideration, at -the same time I should
have been much better pleased if both Catholics
and Jews had come forward with some ameliorations
in the tenets they profess. I consider I speak the

opinions of my constituents when I give my un-
qual.tied vote for the motion.

Mr. LEGGE opposed the motion.
Mr: Wffop supported the motion, and contended
that Christianity did not sanction the intolerance
which some thought requisite for its preservation.
Mr. STEVENS, of Bishopsgate, asked who, even
when he wanted to let a house or sell any goods,
thought of inquiring into the religious belief of the
tenant or purchaser ? Moral qualities as displayed
in his dealings formed the subject of inquiry, and
not religious tendencies. _ .

Mr. R ICHARDSON, of Cripplegate, was for the
motion. lie took occasion to speak of the Wes-
leyan Methodists, and to censure their intolerant
spirit.
Mr. TICKNER said, that the Charter of the City
would be violated, if the measure was acceded to.
Mr. THORNHILL supported the motion.
The Court then divided, when there appeared--
For the motion )6
Against it
Majority

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PARLIAMENTARY PAPER.

GREENWICH HOSPITAL.

An Account of the Money deducted out of the Nagel of
Seamen employed in the Merchant Service of the Coun-
try, for the Years 1828 and 1829 ; showing the Gross
Amount collected, the Net Money paid to Greenwich
Hospital, and the Amount and Rate per Cent. paid for
collecting the same in each year, and for what Pur-
poses employed.

Gross Amount of the Collection
Money paid to Greenwich Hospital
Total Expense of Collection

1828.

X. s. ci.
23,683 1 1
18,845 19 8
4,837 1

DETAIL OF TUE 7OTIL EXPENSE OF
COLLECTION.
To the Deputy Receivers of Great
Britain and Ireland, America,
guernsey, Jersey, and Newfound-
land, I'lil per cent. for collecting,
except the Port of Liverpool,
which is 514 per cent
To the Receivers General for Scot
land and Ireland, a salary of 5W
per annum each
Plantation Clerk at the Custom-
House, 10 per cent. on the amount
collected in America
Salary of the Chief Receiver at New-
foundland, '7 per cent. on the
collection
Salaries to the Receiver General and
Comptroller at the Port of Lon-
don, their Clerks, Clerk at the
Customs, Messenger and House-
keeper
Repairs
Superannuation Allowances
Po-stage, Stationery, Taxes, and
Housekeeper's Disbursements

2,031 3 6

100 0 0

78 4 5

1,635 0 01
437 11 8
36 5 0

1829.

X. .. d.
'26,137 2
21,412 17 54
4,724 4 104

2,343 4 1

100 0 0

77 2 10

81 8 1i

1,6.55 0 0

36 5 0

431 4 10

4,724 4 10M

The Monies paid to Greenwich Hospital are applied to the
general purposes of the Institution.
P. C. LE GEYT, Clerk of the Cheque.

The total expense of collecting amounted in the year 1828 to
20% per cent., and in 1529 to 18 per cent. on the gross receipts ;
but arrangements are now ordered to be carried into effect by
which the whole expense will be reduced to about 10 per cent.
WM. H. HOOPER, Secretary.
Royal Hospital, Greenwich, May 10, 1830.

CHARGES IN SUNDERLAND YARROW/.
Fittage, and keel dues, when loaded by tubs
(the most expensive method), including con-
♦eyance by water for seven miles
Casting into ship
Trimming in ship
Coast lights, &c.
Pilotage and assistance to sea from Sunderland

CHARGES IN TIIF PORT OF LONDON.
Government duty, paid at the Custom house
Average rate of freight from Sunderland to
London

HUES, CHIEFLY MUNICIPAL, IN TIIE POET OFI

LONDON.

Orphans' duty
Metage
Market dues, to defray purchase or Coal E

change
Meter
Factor's commission
Scorage allowed to the buyers, being '2 per cent
upon two-thirds of the quantity sold, liable
to fluctuations, but may be stated to average
Trinity dues and stamps
Water bailage, and Lord Mayor for permit,
clerk of meter's office, and other charges ••••I
Ingrain allowed to buyers, 5 per cent. on the
average, may be stated to average

aiRDES:OF DELIVERY FROM THE SHIP TO THE

CONSUMER'S CELLAR.

Coal whipper (or deliverer from the ship into'
the barge)
Lighterage to the coal-buyer's wharf
artage, including the loading of waggons
Unloading from the waggon to the cellar, called'
shooting, variable, but averages
Lana metage, by act of Parliament
Buyer's commission

Total expenses, exclusive of price paid to
the coal-owner