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'HACKLING.

5. " For every stone of Found Hemp, of Irish growth,
well water-rotted and scutched, which shall be hackled
and dressed tit for Spit)ning, between the ist August 18ot
and the tst of August 1804, the sum of' 3d.

" SPINNING. '
6. " For all Machinery which shall be ereaed, whether
entirely new, or added to old Mills, for spinning Hemp
or Flax,for Sail-cloth, before the Ist August, 18oi, to be
iyor:teil by water or steam, sum after the rate of Tali
Shillings for each Spindle it shalt:contain, on sufficient
security being given that the number of Spindles for which
such premium shall be received, shall„be regularly kept
at work in spinning Hemp or Flax for three years.
- " For this Premium the sum of 30001.-. will be. appro-
priated; and it' more than 6000 Spiadles shall be claimed
tor,i the Trustees will 'reserve to themselves the power of
diviclihg the sum of joool. rateably among the Claimants.
• " To the Person who >hall spin such Yarn by such
Machinery before the Ist, of August, silo.}, a Saif-cloth
Loom,, ,mule of the best materials, and on the most irri
proved plan, will be ordered by the Trustees for-every
two ton of good, even, merchantable Yarn so spun; every
'such Loom to continue the property of the BOard, into
whosoever 'hands such Spinner may give it.

"ITINERANT HEMP-DRESSERS.
" All Persons who Can produce sufficient proof of being
perfectly skilled in the management of Hazy throughout
all its different processes, from the time it ls,pulled until
it is completely dressed for spinning, and wish to engage
with the Trustees, are desired to apply to their Secretary,
at the Linen-Office, Dublin,' or their Agent. Edward
Stewart, Esq. AldermanbUry, London; and the first twelve
who shall be approved of, will be appointed Itinerant
Hemp-dressers at 301. a year each ; and will have liberty
to receive from the Persons whom they shall be ordered to
attend, such reasonable allowance as l'he TitiStees shall
previously sandion.
" WO—WRIGHT and MACHINE-MAKERS. -
" All Persons of this description in Great Britain or
Ireland; who wish, to be employed in Construding any
'Machinery for the Scutching, Dressing, Spinning, or
Weaving of Hemp, may register their Names and Charac-
ters and prices or terms,&they choose, in the
.Linen
Office, Dublin, where a Book will be kept for the pur-
pose, and be open at all times to the inspedion of any
person who may wish to ered Machinery. , •
And the same being read paragraph by paragraph, was
unanimously Agked to, and onlerca to be published.
,By rder of the Trustees,
JAMBS CORRY, See•

LOCHLEVEN FISHINGS AND ISLAND.
BE,SOLD BY. PUBLIC AUCTION,

Within the Royal Exchange Coffee-house, in Edinburgh,
Upon Wednesday the 13th of April. aor, at Oih
o'clock Afternoon,
fHE FISHINGS on LOCHLEVEN, in the
COnittyof Kinross, in Scotland, belonging to Mts.
ii. :lee, of Arnot. Also,
Tne ISLAND of ST. SE RVANLIS, commonly called
the Inch, lying at the East end of the said Loch, and con- •
raining about Forty Scotch Acres%of ;good early Pasttire,
now out of Lease, whichh may. be.eutered to a; next Whit-
sunday;
The Fishing consists of a great variety of excellent
Trout, among which is that singular species the Char, so
wtAl known to render anN% particular description necessary.
Al's° Pike, Rich, and Eels. All the Fish in this Lake
arq of a superior flavour;- and wholly free-front that mud-
dy time so common to the Fish in other Lakes.
The Fish find a very ready Sale in the Town of Kinross
' and its Neighbourhtsofi, and in_ the Edinburgh- Market,
where 'they' bring. very good' Prices .; but perhaps still
• lii;hergmight be oUairied by sending-them to the-London
Market, either,packud ice or potred.—Thelipsetprice
35bot. p:iyable at Whitsunday next. •.
The present Rent'a the Island is 2;1.. and of the fisit:-
• 4
• Sal. las. under Lease-for Two Years. after the pth of
St -0 :Tiber next. The Lake is within Ten Miles of Burnt-
lsWepod, where there is a good . Harbour. for shipping the
Fah, if sent to London. •
For 'particulars, apply to Mr. Robert. Stewart,
Old sank Close. Edinburgh, who shay the Title
Decis. Rental, and Articles of Sale ; or to John Spottis-
wood, Esq.:.Sackville-street, Lf#ricLn.

CHELTpiti.Am, GLOUCESTERSHIRE.
TO BB SOLD BY.AIJCTION,•_

On Friday the loth Day of April next, On the Premises,
between the hours of Five and Eight &Clock in the
Exciting, by Order Of the Assipzes of Charles Eld-
ridp, late of Cheltonham, Viztu:iller, a Bankrupt, sub-
kit to such Conditions as will be then. produce:!, and
'in Lots;
ALL the VALUAI344E and BENEFICIAL
ESTATE and INTEREST of the said. Charles
Eldridge, of and in all that Capital Al zesuage of Dwell-
ing-house called the YORK HOT EL and BOA RDING-
HO US E, Situate on the North Sile of,ClieltenliNm-street,
I gel y fitted u p in a superior b tyle c•telegance,, for the.accotn-
incxlation of the Nobility and Gentry resorting to Chelten-
ham. The above Premises are now in high repute, having
tie eteflequenteci by the most Fashionably Personagesond tie
contiguous to the Theatre,Roome,and othe' phe:ts ofp üb.
lie amusement, and are held under Lease, granted by john
Holes Watson, Esq. for the term of Twelve Years, com-
mencing front the asth December, *799, at a low Rent.
Also the Bankrupt's Interest in Two other Messuages,
or Dwelling-houses, on the same side of the Street, No. i
and No. t 3, used as Lodging-houses, tlv furnished,
and St for the acannmodation of 5m.,11 Families or single
Gentlemen.
, The Furniture, Stock, and other Articles upon the re-
spelive Premises, which arc the property of the said
Bankrupt, are to be taken to at fair valuations.
Further Particulars may be known on application to
Mr. Thomas Kidman and Mr. Edward Matthews, the
Assiinets, or to Mr. Primo, Solicitor, Cheltenham.
MI Persons indebted to the said Bankrupt's Tstatc,' are
desired forthwith to pay the sum to tin? Assignees.

The ATTORNEY GENERAL said, Ne. thought'
it his duty- to apprize the House cyst the prO visions
,of this Bill extended to Cotintry Bank Notes,.
13i1Ts' of Exchange, &c. as 'well as .13ank-Cf Eng.,
land Notes...

Sir R. BUXTON thought that the same pro-
teaion ought' not to be given to the. Notes of
Countty Balikers as to those of the Bank of Eng,_
land.

Mr. CURWEN said, that :as long as-the Notes
of Country Bankers were sanOioned •by -Law,
they were entitled to its protettion. . •
Sir IF. E.I.IORD
,suggigeti the propriety of
adopting some means of providing, that Persons
should have a certain Capital, before they were
allowed to issue their Paper.
Mr. COR Rl' said,- he perfectly concurred. in,
opinion with the Hon. Baronet ;' and he hoped,:
that if such a Provision was made, that 'there
would be no objection to extending it to Ireland,
He was parry to be under the necessity of stating,
that unless some plan of this sort was adopted, with
respeA to that Country, the time would not be
far distant, when the facility of circulating Paper
would be attended with the most fatal conserren...
ces. Immaking•this observation, he certainly. did_
not mean to allude to the Bank of Ireland, to the
,Bankers. of Dublin, or to the respeaable Bankers in.
the Country ; he meant to speak of a wretched set
of Persons, who,- without any Property, had
tinned to issue Paper to a considerable amount, and
by- this means had contrived to embark in a va,
riety of speculations, and had contributed to raise
the Price of Provisions, .though they had no
means of snaking good the sums which they had
engaged to fay. It was merely to this descrip-
tion of persons that lie meant to confine his ob.'
servations, and he hoped that he should not be
understood to allude to any persons of charaaer
and property. He .thought it right to take this •
'opportunity of mentioning this circumstance, and
of expressing his intention of Proposing, in a fu- -
ture stage of the Bill, some Clauses and Amend,
silents to this diva., .

Mr. BAKER and .Sir. J.. E,LFORD spOke brietty
in favour Of the-measure. •

Sir JOHN ?ARNELL said, that the mischief
complained of did not so, much arise , from thd
breach as from the evasion ,of the Law. Men
under the description of Bankers, in Ireland, ex-
changed their Paper, which had no'security, for
Bank. Paper ; bur if they were to pay the Stamp,
Duties, they would not find it their interest to
carry on their trade. These grievances had been
carried to an extreme, and he felt himself much
obliged to the Learned Gentleman for ;he intro.'
duflion of his. Bill. ,

,;14r. ALk.',XANDAR stated the pratlices of
Colo ntry Bankers in the North of Ireland, and
the nature of the Bankrupt Laws in that Coantry,
as arguments in fitvour of the measure.
After 'a few words from Mr..LASCELL2S and
Mr. 1-19.anousE, the Motion was agreed to, and
the Bill ordered to be committed on 4Vionday next.
'The\ Bill-for lessenihg the burden of the Poor
Rates by increasing
,the growth of Potatoes, was
read a 'second time.

The Exviritig'Laws Bill was read a third time
and passed. -

The Poor Children's Stamp Duty Exemption
Bill, and the East India Guods Land-carriage
Bill, pa;sed through Committees, and the Reperis
ordered to be.received.to-morroiV,

►Vlr. BRAGG brought up the Scotch Molasses
Distillery Bill, which was read a first tune. .
The other. Orders of the Day. were deferred..
Adjounied at six o'clock till to-morrow.

•
;The Dehate in the House of Commons on Wednesdayen
Mr.-GacT'S Motion for an Imiuiryinto the State of the
Nation, was of such moment, and
.we catered into so
enlaiged a detail of it, that we feel it lucumbent upon
us to continue that part of it in our Paper of this day
which' our limits yesterday prevented us from giving.
—Wo have received several assurances from persons
who had attended Most attentively to the whole o. it,
of .the superior accuracy and fidelity Of our.Report.]

Mr. PITT said it was .extremely painful to
him to be obliged to say so much,. and so long
to occupy the attention of the House ; but he
would observe, that he had lived to very lit.,
tle , purpose for the last seventeen years of his
life; if it was necessary for him to say that he
had not quitted his situation in order to shrink
from its difficulties ; foa in the whole of that
time he had aaed, whether Well or w►as

- * 0
Aiitit for him to, say, bat certainly he-had afted in a
Manner that had no resemblance to shrinking from .
,diffiettlty ; he might say this if he were to strike
the seventeen years out of the account, and refer
only to what had taken place within the last two,
months, and he would venture to alledge that
enough had happened within that time, to wipe. off
the idea of his being disposed to shrink from „dif-
ficulty, or wishing to get rid of any respOnsibility.'
"What had happened within that period had afforded
him, an opportunity of shewing, •a particular
manner, that he was willing to he responsible to any
extent which his situation cast upon him ; in that
particular he had had the good fortune, however
:un-
fortunate the cause,, he was happy he bad, shetvn that
he was not only a PartY, but that he was:the deep-
est of all Parties in responsibility, in the: adoption
of a measure- the most critical' %vitt) regard io him-
self and his Colleagues. He 'was therefore led to
say, as to. the 'measure which had induced him
-to quit hiS situation, that unless hedid2believe the
importance of it, and, the circumstances by which
it was attended, to be such, that wl)ile he remained
in office heihould have been unable to bring it for--
ward in theway which was likely 10 'be eventually.
successful, and therefore, he judged that he should
serve let's hcficfally the Public, as well as the Par-
ties more immediately the objeas of it, to make
the attempt, than to desist from thei measure ;
but such was his` idea of the measure itself; that it
was one wilich upon the whole had been better-
adopted tlran refused under all the circumstances
such was also the idea of those who had aeled with
him, and they had-therefore thought. it better that
they should quit their offices than continue under such
eircumstanits, in His Majesty's service. In doing
this they had aeled'purely from principle, they had
atted in such a mariner as had-satisfied their own
minds, which was to them important, and he hoped
they had afted in such a'manner as would; one day or
Other, be perfeetly satisfaaory to the Public, as far
as the Public should ever think it worth their while
to be concerned in his conduet. The measure to
which he alluded, had he proposed, as at one time
he wislied;_ was not one which Gentlemen on the
other side. Of the House-were likely to look on
lightly, although he .should have the good fortune to
have their'support if he had brought it forward, that
is on one part, but he did not think That he should'
upon the whole 9f it, nor did he believe those Gen-
tlemen would have faitOured. the-whole of the prin.
ciple on which he should have proposed the measure.
He was not anxious to have the Question agitated
at all at this moment. --." I.do- not think," said he,
" that Shia is a period in which it can be agitated
beneficially to the Public,'or even to those who are
more iMmediately the objects of it, and:-,who are .
supposed to be so interested in its'succeas ; but,
whenever it is agitated, I shall he ready ifhd 'I- shall
be willing to go fully into it,' and to' give at large
my opinion on' it." I will say only. atplesent, that
as to any thing-=which I an:l my Colleagues ineditat.i
ed to bring forward, .1
-disclaim the very woods in
common use, •g the ;Emancipation of the CathOlics,'
_or Catholic Emancipation.'• I have never under_
stood that subjeft'so—l never understood the situ-
-ation of 'the Catholics to be such —I do not now
-understand the situation of the
Catholics
to be such
as that alit), relief from it could be correaly dc.
scribed, but I think -the feiv remaining -benefits of '
which they have not yet participated, might have
added safely. to the 'many • benefits which hdve. been
so bounteously conferred on them in the course of
the ,present Reign; I was of opinion' and lam of
opinion, that these benefits, if they had gone before
the Unidti; 0-Ould-: have been rash arid destruc-
tive.—l was ofopinion then,—l am of opinion now,
that the very'- Measure I allude ,to, as a claim of
right; cakinot be ' maintained, and it is on the
- ground of liberality,. alone, and political expedience,
and in that sense wisdom', as connected with other
measures, I
,should have thought it desirable, ad.
viiable and important -;.• but I would not have
had it founded on a naked prOpositiOn, to re
peal any one 'thing 'which formerly pOliey had
deemed expedient for the.safety of the Churdi and
State. —.No Sir, it was a comprehensive • and
an extensive system which Untended to.propose—
.to relinquish things certainly intended once as
a 'security, which I thought in some respeel in-
efFeetual; and which were liable to additional
objetlions, from the .very eircums.tanet of, the
Union,,lleving.been-accompl-islied, and getting other
security "for thesaine..Objeets, 'to. get a more con.
Sistent and rational security both in Church and
State,' achording to the'prilciplei,btit varying 'the
mode, which .the wisdom dour Ancestors had adopt.
ed to prevent danger. measure I intended to
propose,. I think would.. give more safety to the,
Clutch and State, as well. as More satisfaction to
all classes, and ,to all "descriptions- -of the King's
SubjeCts; and which would lead any man to adopt,
to take away that which no man would wish to
remain, provided • there could- pe.rfedi security.
without it, and which there was_ power to remove.
The I am•sure, forgive me. for this part
of my Address to it.—As to whatever might be
the nature of the measure, I am, sure the Hotise will
in a moment' feel that what I am 'going to alleclge,
*ill satisfy, it- the: nothing of this :oature could
• ever be accomplished by having a: Committee of the
whole House on the State of the-Nation ; for, inde-
pendent of the many thingi '-whiebewould,be-neces-
, sary to be done if such a 'Measure' were 'set on foot,
there is one thing "Alich will make it obvious how
/ inefficient for such a .purpose, a Committee on the
State of. the Natiou would be ; in the first place,
that Committre would .not liAve.any power what-
ever to interrogate any one „Member of Parliament,

and therefore All that ID. art of, the speech or the. lion.
Gentleman which tended to conned the Committee
on the State .of the Nation, with the condition of

_ .
the Caiholies in Ireland, althOugh it may. serve,the
purpose of engaging men's afFeetions for a moment,
bad, in treality; npthirrg whatever to:dd with it;'.and •
Gentlemen, are clot sualunovices in the affairs ofPar_
liament, as not taknosi that they. may,whenever;they
Tease,. Move this(or any, other sublet% independent
of any Other -consideration, •and.,that there is, no ne-
cessitylbr a !Committee; tO inquire, into, the State of
the Nation' • for That purpose.. • I think, however,
that the Ouebtion-, with -regard. to. the. con,
di t ton .of the Catholics.; according, to my. view :of
things, cAnot be:improved by a Committee on the
State of the Nation [xi% brought forward.at this

time., It will east 118 light whatever on any one
subject conneetedewith the Catholic -Question. I
am absolutely certain, as little-can it give on the
cause, .or the propriety, or impropriety; of our re.-
signatioro—this too obirkons, to' require liny asp-
ment.—How can the Committee. proceed to the
examination of the cause of the Resignation of
HieMaj.esty's Ministers,.• to which some Gentle_
men, for purposes, perhaps, not very doubtful; haVe
heen.pliased , to attach so much importance-?-
-I• know of no right' which the 'House of Com-
mons itself, still less can a Committee, have . to
require of ariy man to state his reasons for tendering
his resignation to•his Sovereign, not is it a.common
thing for the Public to require it. A man very
often indeed makes his appeal to the Public on go
ing out of Office, and that sometimes, as much with
a wish to be re-instated, as any thing ; but I never
heard of a man being called on. to exculpate himself
from the charge of resigning. But Gentlemen say;
that by one being silent on the subjed'of the Catho-
lic Question, we have brought ,the name , of our
Sovereign into dispute ; and the Hon. Gentleman
,chuses to put a construEtion on our remaining silent,
and then to ask if:question; whether the Catholics
had or had not been deceived ? And upon the ob,
stacles' to the measure,,as.they are stated in a Paper,
of which I shall take.notice shortly, the I-lon. Gen-
tleman says, that innumerable obstacles are in
the way of the measure; I do not know what
Paper he took up ; I cannot die responsible 'for it,
nor, indeed, for the verbal accuracy of any Paper
whatever. I believe the word which the Hon. Gen.:
tleman has mistaken was inseperable; and not in-
numerable. Upon that subjed,
.all I will say is
this :—That although I wished to submit the Ques-
tion of the Catholics to Parliament, there were
such objeftions stated, as made me feel it impos.
sible, with propriety, to bring the measure forward
as a Minister. These are the general words I chuse
to use upor; the subjet% : the Hon. Gentleman shall
draw from me no admissions, and no denials on
this subject. He may argue as he pleases from the
words use.—[" Hear ! Hear !" from the other
Side]--Gentlemen may draw what inference they
please ; but I shall say a few words more upon this
subjeti :—Gentlemen say, that I left this case in a
state in which the name of the Sovereign-is brought
into question; and they ppear to be angry because
I will not tell them, whether they ought to be
angry or not, They-wonder why I do not make it
a matter of Question, and they put,' distantly, some
points in the way- of question, 'but I will not an-
swer interrogatories--I will tell those Gentlemen,
however; that-upon this Subjea they deeeivP'them-
selves,grossly. Should they .be able to establish,
that the.
,opinion of the Sovereign made it impossi-
.ble to' bring the subjea forward, they would gain
nothing:
,by it ; for should the opinion of the
Sovereign, be what it 'might; or' the opinion
.of his
Servants, ,What it might, °ldle Sovereign to dis-
pense with the services, of of the Servant to tender
his resignation, would still remain the same—let
these -Gentlemen but once be able to shake this
principle, and they. will have done more than they
will .be willing to avow, towards the destruttion -I
of the Monarchy, for they will ,have established the
most extravagant part of an oligarchy, that ever was
eretted in any Statee.foir tbur. 14%. St ••• • ;6‘.
could dismiss, nor the Subjett• 'resign, without an
-explanation being made to the Public.—So that the
Sovereign, 'the Father of his People, could never
past. from his Servants, -unless he condescended to
.shew that they gave him bad advice, nor.his Ser-
vants render their resignation,
.unlei's they could
prove that something was attempted to be imposed
on -them, :which they could not, in their con-'
sciences, approve :—Now, I would ask, is . that
the state, .or. is it desirable it should be the state of
the Monarchy of this Country.? Certainly it is
The use of the
.name of the Sovereign for the
purpose of influencing opinions in this .Hbuse,.' or in
any deliberative Assembly, is justly deemed 'un-
constitutional. The Sovereign exercises his opi-
nion ,on' the sentiments, as well as capacity of his
Ministers, and' it upon-either, ,he judges theM to
be incompetent, or in, any degree .unlit, it ,is the
prerogative, and, with puled loyalty, let me.add,
aye, the dury.of 'tile Crown, to distn6s such Mini-
sters. . Allow me also to say, that if'a Minister
feels that, 'from 'a sense, he entertains of his duty, he
ought to propose a measure; but
..is convinced that
his endeavours must be ineffedual, so that his ser.
vices must be limited to a narrower.' compass than
he_could desire, :and that success, in some 'material
point, is irnpo4sible,- he - of ghr to be permitted
to but, in proportion to the difficulty 'which
the Sovereign may have in accepting. the resigna-.
tion: of such a Minister, ought to be his love for
such a Sovereign. hope 1 am-not deficient in my
dtity to the best of Sovereigns, and I hope the
whole ground and motive of my adions will coil.
tinue to be justified during the whole of his reign.
.This is all I shall say. upon this subjea, which may-,
perhaps, be saying more than Fought.; But with
respe4 to the assurances said, 'or supposed to have
been held out to the Catholics' of Ireland, twould
add a few . words.—The Pon. Gentleman has al,
luded to a*Paper circulated- in that partOf His- Ma.
jesty's Dominions.—it was a Memorindurn sent in
the name of a NobleLordi at the head :of the Exe-
cutive Government of 'lreland, a CharaCter revered
by all who know him, and whose name I am per-
suaded will not be profaned, nor mentioned in this
Country with any disrespect. 7 feel, and I km:4
it to be 'true; that the Noble Lord did feel it right,
as a matter of Public Duty,' to make a Cornmunica-
don to Persons most immediately among the Catho-
lics, to state the motives which led to rim late
change which took place in His Majesty's Councils,
to prevent any misrepresentation of that subject,
then adding to the danger of the public tranquillity.
I beg to-state that matter clearlyanddistindly ;
was my express desire, . not conveyed by myself,
but through' a Noble-Friend of mine, sitting near
int (Lord CASTLEREAGH) that[ the Noble Lord
should take the oppcktnnity of .dOing this. I do
not arrogate any merit for it;
.but I think it, is an
answer to any charge against us upon this sUbjea,.
for, remissness, that we lost no time in making that
. representation_ and explanation of our motives; and
the principle 'of it
,was this, that the attempt to
realize our wishes at this • time, woujd 'only be
productive of Public embarrassrrierit. The.
sentation was therefore made.; 'but with reqe4

to the particular Paper delivered,• it was-not pre, .
viously consulted wit,,h, me how it should- be
perused, and, therefore for the pargculak phrases of
it Ido not hold myself iesponsible. All the know..
ledge I derived or corkyeyed, was founded on verbal
interpretation..—As to the tenor (Title paper -I hairt
alluded to, the sentiments in it are conformable to
thoie which I have already expressed in this House,
and-Shall again express whenever I havt-occasion to
express my sentiments on that subjea ; and it is fit
not only, that this House should know them, but fit
also that the .Community at large should know them.
—lmean this, that a measure of that sort appeared
to me to be of so much importance under all the
circumstances, and that being unable to bring it
forward as a measure of Government, I thought I
could not therefore in honour remairoin -the situa-
tion in which I then stood, and that I was desirous
of letting it also be understood, that whenever the
objection I alluded to did not exist,—the same ob-
stacle did not interpose, thatevery thing depending
on me, as well as those -who thought with me, I.
should do, for that I was, desirous of carrying that
measure, thinking_it of great importance to the
Empire at large ; but that in the mean time, if any
attempt to press it, s 6 as to endanger the public
tranquillity, should be made; or to pervert the
affeelion of any part of His Majesty's SubjeCts, we
should take our full share in resisting such attempts ;
and that ,we should do so with' firmness and resolu-
tion. These are the sentiments which I expressed, and
I did hope that the day would come, when on the part
of the Catholics, should such a measure be revived, it
-would be carried in the only way in which I wished'
to see it carried, WhiCh was certainly conformable
to the general, 'tranquillity of the Empire.-7-As to
any other pledge, I beg leave to give none—l have
engaged myself to give none-=-I will give none—
either now or at any time. 7-4 have contributed, as
far as peaceable endeayours cotrid go, according to
my judgment, in the best manner I could at the
moment, for the general interests of the Country.
This is all I shall say on this part of, the, subjett,
and I am ashaMed to have been.. obliged to trouble
the House so much as I have done, especially as
another branch of it remains, and on which I must
still say a few words—it relates to
,a question,
whether any of those who have retired from office,
had' so pledged themselves to the Catholics as to be
under the necessity of resigning their offices because
they could not perform their pledge..l beg leave.
to deny that ; and what is mote satisfy Cory, I be-
lieve I am authorised in. denying, that the Catho-
lics,conceived themselves to have received any such
pledge.—l know the Noble Lord to whom I have
alluded, and my Noble Friend near me, who must
have been a party to such transaCticiti, if any such
had past, did not so convey 'to me.. I do not now, nor
ever did so conceive it.—That the Catholics might
have conceived such an expeetation is most natural—
: Why ? Because the more attentively, I have ,refiectied
, on !it, ' the moreafter'• the Union, but not before,
the. measure has appeared to me' to be salutary and
expedient, and I can have no reason to think, that
they were less sanguine in their expe&ations on. that
subjed than I was-That they thought there Was a
:very probable chance for the measure, is most cer.
::tain ; for I believe there was no one in this House,
MIT Denny. ; It. I of parliAmenr, Tt.01,1,
in argument, has attempted to deny, ,that the diffi-
culties would be considerably diminished on this
subjea afte'r the measure of the Litton was accom-.
pliihcd : I was of that opinion when thi's subjea.
was debated—l.avn of that opinion' still,and the
reasons: in favour .of it do very much preponderate ;
this, however, was afterwards; given up, on MO-
fives' of expediency. An expeaatiOn in favour of
this. measure there was ;'but. a pledge, I do distinelly
state-there was none."

Mr: PITT then proceeded to-observe on the other
parts of the:s'ubjett, as they had been opened by
Mr. dREY, and di.sposed Of each in its turn, bat
of which a 'detail would go beyond our limits,;
we shall, therefore, only 'slightly touch the diffeient
heads of his :arguments.. On the subjeft of -the
change of His Majesty's Ministers, he observed,
that it would not be right for -him to. presume to.
trouble the ,House, because that. subjeft was most.:
ably discussed by his' Right Hon. Friend ; and he
confessed he was -at a loss' to know what could. be-
said in answer to it. With respea to, the details.of
the War, they had been the subject, not only of dis.
cession, but.also of the votes Of the House; and it
would be sufficient for him merely to remind the
House, that if they thought the opinions they had
formerly given were wrong; it was right to say
so; but it was hardly fait' to say that the same argu-
ments which had been-over and over again offered, and
not only answered, but .exploded, would not, be.'
cause they were repeated to-night, raise much doubt
in the mind of the HOuse. He should, therefore,
say nothing on them. With regard-to the objet
of the War, it had been stated over and over again
as matter of accusation against the .Executive Go.
vernment of this Country, that this War was car-
ried on fOr the EstablishMent of Royalty in France.
—That Royalty was made the sine qua itoit.—Up-
on that, he would only say; that there was amode
of repeating a thing, which was in itself unfounded,
so frequently, that a man might 'at last *make himself
believeit,, while nobody believed it but himself,
and so a man might become the dupc of his own
obstinacy. He had however always distinaly
avowed, that the ,re,establishmeot of Royalty in
France was desirable in itself; for every mate who
rooked ar things impartially, would see, 'that, the
tranquillity- and safetrof &trope depended much on
that event, and was one way Of restoring Peace to
Europe ; but he had never said—God., forbid he
ever,should—that the whole safety of this'Country
depended on. it ; or that it •shOuld be made by us a
sine Ina ?ion of Peace—he had never held any such
doarine the rule he hpd always Considered to•be
this, not to pursue, any 'point
..to an extreme, for
that bordered- on madness'; 'but to carry on the eon.-
test to its conclusion; with as little effusion of hu-
man blood as possible; but to lead it to a termina-
tion as favourable as possible for this Country, • fOr
he did not possess that species of Philosophy which
had -no more regard for the Country which gave him
birth than that of any foreign land—,as a Politician he
was bound to prefer his -own Country
.to .any Other.
In that light. also, he c9nsideted that the establish-
men t of 'Monarchy in France was the readiest way to
heal up the bleeding wounds of Europe, and which

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might have been accomplished,
.if other Countries.
had taken properly an example from thii Country,
whose struggles in the preservation of .it 4 Liberty
and Jnaependence was the. admiration of surround- •
ing Nations ; and indced,the tate of other . Powers
had Tong been thought. robe connefted with the
prosperity Of this Country, and_ to preserve Which •
we had kept constant and steady, and amidst the
shock -of surrounding -,Einpires, _the •Constitution,,,,,,
the Resources, the Charaaer, and the :Greatness.
of Britain had remained tinshakeh ; 'to these obiefts
had the War been 'directed, and -these- objects had..
the 'Wit preserved, for not tine 'of which was* lost,
nor iris•either atqhis hotir in danger. _ The 'dis-
pensations of Providence in the fite of Empires 'had
been propitious 'tO Great Britain,- and had it not
been far the perverseness- of some, of its Allies,.
the weakness-and timidity of otheis, and the mis-
taken'polity'of-all, they would each of them, at this
hour, be in a much better' .conditiOn thin th6-' are ;
they wanted the spirit, the vigour, and riiinlhieSS of
this Cohirtly-To7ple§e'rtre them:- pf that spirit, that
vigour; and that rnanlineSS Gieat Britailf had at 'chid'
hdur every foot of. Territory' which ' she rossessett-:
at the commencement of the, War, to which:- she:
added very large posspssionsfrOm the Enemy,' and,-
this after a contest of row. nine years, the 'intl.;
culars of which he should
by
over;-• because they •
had been, so ably ,detailed b.y lend .;.`
But on the subjet of Finances it was
ness to dWell a it w4s a dry subjett; 'and hq
should be 'as concise aeon it as,tiie -nature of
.Would admit.----Here, he wenf7tliFd'ujh a 'su\iirtt...ac-4
-count of the Finance of . the .Country Fat'. the nines
years of this 'War; and sheaved the particulars in
which the Resources. ill the ;Country had, ill that
period of unexampled difficulty, ,increased ,even tb
the. present hour, and then he past to the QUertiron
of Contest-between this Coutury and, theNorthe.rts
Powers now-in,confedcrley against use --What svotk td
be the termination.of this Queirion no • man ' cOti,Ari
undertake to say, no man was entitled to. say, that,
all hopes of a successful• termination of the Vuestit
might not be the result of it, and that, he wished to
see accomplished, but only in a smannWlhat Iv as
consistent • wittOhe Rights and. Interests of t:his
Country.. He knew. it was. the •siish: of His
jesty's Councils when he had the honour to make
a part of such.Couneils, and he had no doiili#c those
who succeeded him concurred in the Satrit'icki,sli ; but
on'the other hand, there must. be no Concession on
our part, of the principle on which ste:iiiSisted, for
on it depended the greatness of thif Cmintrv, and
therefore "this Cotiiirr-Tintikr re suffer i iself to
be duped by.. the artifice, than it was to be terrified
by the threats of any Power. ; • for it would be more
shameful of thetwo to.be duped than heat Out of out
Rights; He hOPedi hOWever, loSee a happy tenni-
nationtO the Whole dispute. Here he entered it ito
a short energetic description of the poiniS • in contest
between us and the Northern': Confederacy, mind
classed it under five heads.. First, •wbethcr .klYree
Bottoms make Free Goods.—Secondly, Contral,and
Blockade,—Forthly.i the Rights
of Neutrals.to. carry on Trade.-1, tidily, • the Right.
of Search ; each -of which he argued to be rightly
contended fur on our part, and unjustly contested
on the part of the Confederacy, making alitible
remarks on caci4eati, and Llaer.
the authority of the Law of tibff§;4l"hd. re.
Lying on the Faith of existing 'rreltties, as
a series of Judicial Decisions' of'zhe Highest Au..
tho-rity to be found in our Law ..Books, T :.ris
HAXti-wic.xE,7 MANsFIELO,` eee.. chalrenged
G-entleMen on' the- other side to ,argUe tlttlse
points at length whenever they were
posed. He. took a view,- as he passed, of. 'the
last League between the Northern Powers, by-
which they. had stipulated to do.for themselves- not
only that Which was very- difficult, which was,, that
of guaranteeing 'to-any Power -that their Merokaut
Ships, under their COnyoy, should not have 'any •
contraband gaids on board,' but also.that which was
impossible, namely,to guarantee this very thing
for each' other... Having 'expatiated e 4 these topics
%yids-great force, he concluded' by observing, that
unlesiive resisted these attempts to encroach'on our
IV4ritime Righti now, we should' lose the heat op,
portunity that ever did, or perhaps ever will otter
for their vindication ; &tit as the Confederates peo.
posed it, we were not only to allow ourselves to be
scodrged, but we 'were to- kiss the ;rod.--=This' was
neither more-"nor leis than ajacobinical Principle,
adopted by -four Confederated Powers, which the
Law of Nationi, and of-theCi:vilied.'World were
to.be Overturned,._arid was the spirit al, the French
Revolution, ,which- had done such ilavock in so
many parts of•Eutopet, and whichAvas now about to
be levelled against the Rights- and 'Prtsperty of Eng.
'lishmen, who would do every thing, that was con-
sistent with true-hOtiout'to preSeive Peace, but if
necessary, would sacrifice. the 44 shilling of their
property, and the lasi drop-'ofll3eii blood, rather
than give -up, or butte their rritleotntience, or sell
their Honotir, Whith dearer to them than
existence.'

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"Hr.. FOX said, that the De'pate- had run into
Ypooifn tls°Ptoi6C•htichhatlic4SlK;(di difficult
advert;
6dc
teurcmhian :a
but he should begirt with • ike ,Northern Cdnfede.
racy, He had said that die-Question branched' into
live points T.
;That -Free Bottoms did no; make
Free Goods ; 2. What s.vaS eraband 'of War ;
tn_t
3. The Blockade of Ports 4. That Neutrals Were
not to carry in War the colonial or Coasting Trilde
of a Belligerent POwer ; and S. The Right oftsearcb.
These might:perhaps be all resolved into three great
principles. The Neutral Confederacy had been
called that day a Jacobin principle—the. Neutral
Confederacy was first broached by FR EDER,' ct the
GREAT. It was quite in the fashion of the, present
day to brand every thing with- the name of Jacobin;
but this term had been used too iong---it had lost
its effipcy. :Btit 'to return. That Free Bottoms
did not make Free Goods, Was. a (latrine recognized
by the Law of Nations. He had. no difficulty in
saying So. ; 'Friend (Mr. Grtzy) had said
that it was a doctrine which it was- riot 'necessary
at ihis time to 'consider ; and in this he perfectly
agreedwith him'. We Were not called upon, at this
most critieajeonjunCture of affairs, to bring it into
discussion. The Right Hon. Genileman says, that
in 17 ao, when the Neutral Confederacy' was formed,
it was not --ailiniered, and that 'Lord: Sfoamoxr
afterwards protested against it. The Ministers of