The Sun.
London, England, 1839-08-13 00:00:00

The House then divided, when there appeared
For the amendment
Against it
Majority against the amendment —9
The Report was then received, and the Bill was or-
dered to be read a third time to-morrow.
The Patents for Inventions Bill went through a Com-
mittee, and was ordered to be reported to-morrow.
The Real Estate Liability Bill went through a Com-
mittee, and was ordered to be reported to-morrow.
The Sheriffs Exemption Bill went through Commit-
tee, and was ordered to be reported.
ROYAL DUBLIN SOCIETY.
Mr. H U TTO N moved for a statement of the accounts
of the Royal Dublin Society, in continuation, from April
1836 toApril 1839, distinguishing each year, and stating
theentire receipts, from whatever source derived, and the
entire expenditure, for whatever purpose, in detail ;
statement of the property of the Dublin Society on the
6th day of April 1839 ; statement of how far the re-
commendations of the Committee which sat in 1836
have been exactly complied with ; which of them have
been partially attended to, and which have been totally
disregarded.—Agreed to.
DUKE OF MARLBOROUGH'S PENSION.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved for leave to bring in a Bill to exempt the Par-
liamentary grant to the heirs of John Duke of Marlbo-
rough from the payment of the duty of ls, 6d. in the
pound. It would be in the recollection of the House that
in the debate on the Postage Bill, allusion had been made
to the case of the pension of the Duke of Marlbo-
rough, which had at different times been subjected to a
duty of 45., and also to a duty of Is. 6d. ; his opinion
was that the pension ought to have been exonerated
from both these duties—but a difference of opinion ex-
isted with regard to the 45., but with regard to the ls.
6d. the question had been referred to a Committee, and
although it also not empowered to offer any opinion,
yet he believed that every Member of the Committee
was of opinion that the duty ought to be remitted.
The Hon. Member for Bridport had served on that
Committee, as was the Hon. Member for Kilkenny,
and his Hon. Friend behind him, and he believed they
were all of opinion, that the Duke of Marlborough was
entitled to this relief.
Mr. HUME said this duty had been paid without
complaint since 1810, and had never been complained of
until 1837—he thought the Bill should have been
brought in at the beginning of the Session, and in a full
House, and on those grounds he should oppose this
Bill in every stage.
Mr. AGLIONBY trusted his Hon. Friend would
withdraw his opposition—he had been a Member of that
Committee, and had entered it determined to oppose the
reduction if possible—but he was so convinced that it
was a mere matter of justice to the Duke of Marlbo-
rough that he should support the Bill. Notice sufficient
had been given, because the subject was brought under
the attention of the House a few weeks ago.
Sir R. PRICE hoped the Hon. Member for Kilkenny
would not press his opposition.
Capt. PEC HELL supported the Bill.
Mr. WILLIAMS hoped his Hon. Friend would
press his opposition. What had the present Duke of
Marlborough done to deserve this benefit ?
Mr. R. STEUART trusted the Hon. Member for
Kilkenny would not be induced by his Hon. Friend to
press his opposition.
Mr. THORNELY asked from what period the re-
mission was to commence?
Mr. FINCH thought the real question was as to the
original intention of the Act.
Mr. F. BARING said he had doubted whether the
4s. land tax was not originally charged ; but he thought
the :s. 6d. duty was not justly chargeable.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
it was unjustifiable in representing this measure as re-
sulting from the present Duke being a partisan of the
Government ; on the contrary, the Chairman of the
Committee, who had forcibly recommended the proposi-
tion, was a systematic opponent of the Government.—
(Hear, hear.) It was clear that the object of the mea-
sure was simply to remedy an inadvertance in the first
Act, by which error the Dukes of Marlborough had been
injured. He apprehended there could be no real differ-
ence of sentiment on the subject ; and that the objection
as to the lateness of the Session was not of any force,
seeing that the measure was one ofundoubted and tardy
justice.
Mr. H. HINDE—At what period is the measure
to commence operation ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—
From the passing of the Act.
Mr. HUME must persist in pressing his opposition.
The Gallery was about to be cleared for a division,
when
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, rather than divide at the present time (there not
being, we believe, " a House," i. e. 40 Members) he
would postpone the measure till Wednesday.
CORPORATE PROPERTY (IRELAND).
Lord MORPETH obtained leave to bring in a Bill
to restrain the alienation of corporate property in
Ireland.
The House adjourned at Half-past Ten.

CHARTIST ME.EiTING ON KEN

NINGTON COMMON.

Yesterday morning the Chartists met in Farringdon-
street, from which place they walked in procession to
Kennington-common, where a hustings had previously
been erected.
At half-past three o'clock it was moved, seconded, and
carried that Mr. Feargus O'Connor take the chair.
On doing so, he said be was happy to take upon him-
self any responsibility which might attach to that meeting.
He had often been told that he kad attended illegal meet•
ings, but he had as often said that his presence made them
legal meetings. That was a legal meeting, for the sovereign
will of the people was superior to the law of the land. Be.
cause the gaols were full and the scaffolds erected, the
Government were not to suppose that the principles of
Chartism were to be put down. Seven years ago they
had determined that all the laws ought to be reconsidered,
and if one had been neglected, was the fault theirs ? They
were assembled that day for one of the holiest of all holy
purposes—they were assembled to ask for liberty to the
sveo.f—th(ousands to attempt to
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sentenced to death. He said illegally convicted, because
it had been left to the Attorney-General to ferret out an
old Act of Parliament—an obsolete Act—under which
they had been tried. Their first duty was to save
those men who were now suffering incarceration under
sentence of an ignominious death. If those men suffered,
then he was no Chartist, and they were cowards.—( Hear,
hear.) The leader in the Dispatch of yesterday was
written in the best spirit—had there been many such in
the public press, there never would have been cause for
their agitation. They had now passed through their
ordeal. It was said that in a man's life he must eat a peck
of dirt—and Lord John Russell was doing so every day.
They would give liberty to the Poles, but the moment one
of them joined the people of this country in the struggle
for their rights, the Noble Lord at once found out that he
was not a fit subject for compassion, and be was removed
from the list of those who received the bounty of this country.
He was sorry that they were not organized and armed—he
believed that it was because the men of London did
not know what the men of the North would do.
Let the whole people, the whole of the working classes,
unite—the Government might then go on putting them
into dungeons ; but if they were united they would be
strong—disunion amongst them was the only strength of
their enemies. He had no friends but the working classes.
He did believe that there were not seven men out of the
working classes that did not wish to see him hanged or his
head on Temple-bar. There was no doubt that the Con.
vention had been guilty of many foolish acts, but they, the
working classes, ought to look only at its virtues, for they
were not few. He hoped the speakers who were to follow
, would attend to the real business of the day, and not da-
mage the cause of the poor men who were now under the
sentence of the law. He could assure them that while he
had health and strength he would devote them to their
cause.

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Mr. J. B. O'BRIEN said the time had arrived when every
man should be prepared to carry his head under his arm,
like St. Denis. They were living under a Government
which had abjured their own law. If they submitted upon
the present occasion, if they allowed these poor men to be
put to death, there was an end to all their liberties.
Amongst all the arrests which.had lately taken place, they
had not heard of one aristocrat or middleman being placed
in gaol. Had they ever heard that any one of those who
conducted the agitation for the Reform Bill had le,en
arrested ? That was a middle class agitation, and there-
fore they escaped wiihout any punishment. They would
never have happiness until they had a power over the law,
and that the middle class never would give them willingly.
The interests of the middle classes were eternally opposed
to those of the.working classes, and their only hope was in
obtaining the rights of the people by means of the
Charter. Let them say they were determined to have
their rights, peaceably if ponsible, but if not, then let
them say that they would take them by force. They had
petitioned to the number of 1,287,000, which, including
their wives and families, formed one-half of the popula-
tion—that petition had been rejected by the Legislature.
The people must therefore nave recourse to ulterior mea-
sures—they must annoy the Government in every possible
way. They had tried to drain the Bank of gold—they
had tried exclusive dealing—why should they spend one
farthing with those who do all in their power to deprive
them of their rights.—( Cheers.) Let them deal only
with their friends let them not give the sinews of war to
their determined enemies. Every man present should
possess himself of arms, not for the purpose
of acting aggressively, but arm to protect them
selves against the aggression of the aristocrats and
the middle classes. He had carefully abstained from ad-
vising the people to arm until Lord John Russell called
upon the middle classes to do so—in fact he called upon the
working classes to do so, for be told a 1-- if he
said the working classes were not the principal inhabitants
of any town. He therefore called upon not all to arm for the
protection of life and property. He would call upon
them to arm for the protection of the life and property of
Lord John Russell and his friends—that was his business,
not theirs. All remembered that his property was formerly
the property of the poor of England, which his ancestors
had obtained by robbery in the time of Henry the Bth. He
was f
an protecting the wages of the poor, not any other
life and prepefty. lie had been called a " dagger and
torch man," but that was by men who bad called Mr.
O'Connor and Doctor Taylor dagger and torch men.
The dagger and torch men were those who refused
I the ;people their rights.--0-10ar, hear.) He had Fot
I a resolution to propose for 'their adoption, calling upon
them to maintain the People's Charter. He pressed upon