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from receiving from the French territory any kind of assist-
ance soever, whether in arms, men, or munitions of war. Ar.
tide 2. His Majesty the King of Great Britain and Ireland
engages to supply her Catholic Majesty with such arms and
munitions of war as she may stand in need of ; and, more-
over, if necessary to assist her Catholic Majesty by the use
of a naval force." Now, he put it as a matter of common
sense, whether it was not intended that under the first
article there was to be established a blockade by land on
the French frontier, or what was called a cordon niilitaire?
and whether the second article did not apply only to a
blockade of the coast on the part of the English? The
French had confined themselves properly to the observance
of their part of the treaty ; but what had we done ? We had
not been contented with merely establishing a naval blockade,
but, as bad been stated by Colonel Colquhoun, four of the
guns of his Majesty's artillery had been employed in the ac-
tion. Nor were they employed distinct from the Legion, but
were attached to the Legion in the action of the 16th of
March: It appeared that Captain Bassett received an order
from Colonel Evans to bring his guns to the left, in order
that he might attempt to stop the Spaniards from coming
over the bridge. He was too late, however, to succeed ;
for scarcely had he fired three or four shots, before the
British Legion was seized with panic, and the result
was that he was obliged to make the best of his way and
fall back to the marines, which he did in perfect good order.
Here then were our land artillery brought seven miles from
their garrison to act with the Legion, at a distance and dis-
tinct from the marines, and as if they were a portion of the
Spanish army.—( Opposition cheers.) The Noble Lord might
again favour him with a definition of what he considered to be
naval co-operation, but having one definition of what it was
from the Noble Lord, before he received another perhaps the
Noble Lord would allow him to refresh his memory as to the
definition he had given on a former occasion. The Noble
Lord had contended that that was strictly a naval force which
was under the command of naval officers, which relied on
ships as its chief support, and of which ships formed the chief
feature of operation.—( Hear, hear.) That definition was
given by the Noble Lord before the battle of Hernani.—
( Cheers.) He begged to ask the Noble Lord whether, on
that occasion, ships formed the chief feature ?—( Hear, hear.)
Did the artillery ever retire to the ships ? No ; they retired
on St. Sebastian, being seven or nine miles from the ships.
There was another definition by the Noble Lord to which he
might refer, in which the Noble Lord said that was to be con-
sidered a naval co-operation, when, from the very nature of
the occasion, it was impossible to employ a force in the inte-
rior of the country. In the present instance, the force left
the coast, and marched inland seven miles, and his Majesty's
marines were nearly captured by a superior force; for he be-
lieved that nothing but the weariness of the Carlists prevented
them from following up the advantage they had obtained ;
and it was no disparagement of a force of only 400 men,
to suppose that they would not have been able to resist
a_ force of 8,000 or 10,000. Ho contended, then, that
the British Legion having been seized with panic, it was
by the greatest good fortune that his Majesty's artillery and
marines were saved.—( Opposition cheers.) He held the
King's prerogative in as high respect as any man, but he must
say he considered it very unusual for warlike operations to be
commenced without a message on the subject having been
first sent by his Majesty down to that House. To have em-
ployed the King's forces to slaughter the Basque people
without a message having been received from his Ma-
jesty, appeared to be very extraordinary. How did the
Noble Lord make war? Gomez having advanced with his
army to within a short distance of Madrid, came round to
San Roque. Having arrived in the neighbourhood of
Gibraltar, the officers of the garrison went to visit Gomez
in his camp, and see the nature of his army. Was it not
remarkable, that on the same day that our officers from the
garrison visited Gomez in his camp, on that very day, ac-
cording to the newspapers, from which he derived his in-
formation, one of his Majesty's ships, laying in the bay of
Algesiras, fired on the columns of Gomez by command of
the King's officer, it being stated that Gomez had no artillery,
and all the harm that could be done was to kill some of his
people.—( Opposition cheers.) Thus, by a curious construc-
tion of the law of nations, it appears that our land officers went
out and met on good terms that very force which our navy
fired upon directly it made its appearance. Was this a pro-
per mode of declaring war ? He recollected an anecdote of
Lord Exmouth, which, as it bore on the event 'to which he
was referring, he begged to narrate to the House. When
the Noble Lord, then stationed in the Mediterranean, was
chasing the French squadron, himself being on board the Ca.
ledonia, he came to within half-gun-shot of a French frigate.
The Caledonia was firing into the frigate ; but it being evi-
dent that she would get into harbour, he cried out, with
the noblessness of heart which distinguished him, " Avast
firing I we can't catch her, so don't let us knock off her men
to no purpose."—(Cheers.) Why, he would ask, had we
fired on the columns of Gomez, when it was evident there
was no point to be gained by the sacrifice of human life ? He
would say that this was a mode of proceeding which lie must
consider to be very improper, and the sooner the House of
Commons came to the determination of preventing his Ma-
jesty's Ministers from continuing Rich a course the better. He
maintained that after the statements he had made, and the
Noble Lord having resisted all that had been addressed to
him to persuade him to pursue a different lino of policy, it
became the duty of the House to interfere and take care that
our marines and artillery were not again employed in this un-
holy warfare.—( Opposition cheers.) Ile would say it was a
most unchristian warfare.—( Cheers from the Opposition re-
newed.) 'What right had his Majesty's Ministers to attack the
Basque people in this way ? What right had our artillery to
slaughter them? He did not mean to impugn the military
capacity of General Evans; whether he had managed well or
ill was not a question for that House; for having managed gal-
lantly everybody would give him credit.—( Hear.) Those were
questions which might be raised by military men, who would
discuss them according to their individual views of such mat-
ter; but as that Gallant Officer would probably be shortly in
England, and would have the opportunity of giving any ex-
planation that he pleased, lie would not think of going into
them then. Lie would contend, however, that he had laid be-
fore the House sufficient grounds for the motion he had made.
He had shown to them that failure was the necessary result
of the measures of the Noble Lord ; Lliat we had rendered
ourselves, by this mode of carrying on the war, obnoxious
to the jealousies and all the bad passions of the Spanish
people ; that we had taken measures calculated to destroy
that feeling of reciprocal regard which had always heretofore
existed between the Spanish and the English nations--( Hear,
hear)—that we had shown ourselves the opponents of a
party, and not the friends of the State.—( Opposition cheers.)
By the conduct that had been pursued the Noble Lord had
deprived the English nation of being mediators in the
quarrel, and of terminating deeds which were shocking to
humanity.—( Hear, hear.) He had shown to the Members of
that House that their unfortunate countrymen had been dying
of the most cruel want ; he had shown what were the conse-
quences of these transactions, that the men belonging to the
Legion were without discipline, and the officers without autho-
rity. They had heard of the disastrous results—they were
told of danger and defeat.—( Hear, hear.) He had been a
British officer for many years—he had witnessed the horrors of
war, such as they were, according to the practices of civilized
states ; but he must say, that he entreated of the House, if it
had a consideration for the national character—if it had a re-
gard for the military reputation of the country—if they looked
to that which he could not but believe to be of the utmost im-
portance to them, he then conjured them no longer to permit
war to be thus made on the principles of the Noble Lord ; he
besought of them to withdraw from the contest in Spain not
only the Legion, but the naval force that was now engaged
there.—(Cheers.) As a Member of that House—as one, in
that respect, whose duty it was to watch over the interests
and the honour of the people—he besought of them to with-
draw men from continuing in a war such as he had described;
nay, more, he called upon them to put a check upon the Noble
Lord and his Government in his reckless career, and to re-
strict them strictly to the operation of a treaty which his Ma-
jesty had unfortunately been advised to conclude.—( Cheers. )
The question having been put,
Sir S. CANNING, in rising to second the motion, said it
was not upon that part of the subject which had been imme-
diately under consideration--that connected with the military
profession, and which had already been amply treated of by
the Gallant Mover—it was not upon that portion of the sub-
ject he meant to address them : he considered that part
had been amply treated on, and he, therefore, should not
enter at any length into a part of the subject which his own
habit: rendered him particularly inadequate to discuss. He
meant to consider such parts of the subject as were con-
nected with civil proceedings of the Government, and on
which the military operations had arisen.—( Hear, hear,
hear.) He wished to have leave to say, with his Gallant
Friend, that if he felt himself obliged to come forward and
question the policy pursued by the Noble Lord at the head
of the Foreign Department, he had no intention of separating
that Noble Lord from his Majesty's Government. In
making observations upon the course pursued his Noble
Friend must be well aware that he had any feeling of an
unfriendly nature towards him ; and if upon this occasion he
was induced to take an early part in the debate, it was only
from a sense of duty that he did so—it was only from a con-
sciousness of the importance of the subject that he desired
to throw what light he could upon it, and, if possible, in-
duce the house to support the motion made by kis Gallant
Friend. He was not inclined--he was not from an early
period inclined—to throw the slightest shadow of doubt upon
the policy that his Majesty's Government had adopted in re-
cognizing the justice of the claim of the Queen of Spain to the
throne.—( Hear, hear, from Members on the Ministerial
benches.) It was sufficient for the Government, in his opinion,
that they found her the Queen de facto in Spain. They were
right in acknowledging her as Queen. She was the Queen
de facto, and what they did rested on sound and substantial
grounds, inasmuch as all the constituted authorities recognized
her after the death of the late King. They saw, too, no diffi-
culty made to the recognition of her title. They saw her re-
cognized by the Cortes—they found her tole recognized by the
grandees—the army, too, had sent in its adherence from every
part of Spain. Throughout all Spain, exclusive of the Basque
provinces, the Queen's title was recognized. It was not, then, for
his Majesty's misisters, supposed they had a capacity of enter-
ing into the niceties of this quection, which was more fit to
be decided by Spanish lawyers—it was not for them to deter-
mine it—it was enough that these were the circumstances he
had stated to justify the policy of his Majesty's Government.
( Hear, hear, from Members on the Ministerial benches.) At
the same time he, being in Spain, could say, the question was
brought forward in a more astounding shape.—( Hear, hear,
from Lord John Russell and other Members.) At that time
he was in Spain in the service of the Government, and on a
subject respecting which lie would say, that instructions had
been given to him, and that it was impossible for him, in ac-
cordance with his instructions, to have accomplished the pro:.
position he was directed to make.—( Hear, hear.) He said
that in answer to the cheer of the Noble Lord. He said so
when be found that his character was attacisedi tis he onder

stood an insinuation to be conveyed by that cheer.—( Hear.) They heard of the establishment of a great confederacy, a ;
It was not his intention to have touched upon this subject, but opposed to the despotism of the north. Ile could only say,
he was taunted into it by the cheer of the Noble Lord. He that, if such were the object, the execution of it had not been
was sure that the Noble Lord at the head of the Government of a nature to do credit or tumour to this country. He wished
would not have been so indiscreet.—( Hear, from Members on it had been attended with better success. It seemed to him,
the Opposition Benches.) The Government having deter- on the contrary, that they were pursuing a policy wLich could
mined upon intervention, the natural question presented to only lead them hie) danger, from which it would require more
the country was this—whether we were to give to the Govern_ than the talend of the Noble Load ( Lord Palmerston) to ex-
ment a moral support, or was it to be one of a positive and tricate us with honour. Such was not the policy that pre-
national kind ? By the line taken were they to make them_ Tailed at the Foreign-office at a time at which his Noble Friend
selves responsible for the burden of a material support ? This ( Lord Palmerston) would, he was sure, look with satisfaction.
question not only applied to the treaty with Spain, but it also He (Sir S. Canning) was greatly mistaken it' the pelicy of
applied to the provisions part of the Quadruple. Treaty, more Mr. Canning was of this character. He referred to the two
especially to that part referring to Portugal.—( Hear.) He cases of the French intervention in Spain ; and, again, to the
was desirous that they should look to the circumstances that time when Spain threatened Portugal with invasion. In the
led to the formation of the first treaty, and also to the adoption one case Mr. Canning abstained from war; and in the other
of the additional articles. He was aware that both, in diplo- he sent a force into Portugal. Ile (Mr. Canning) bore all
matic arrangements, were part and parcel of the same treaty ; that was to be borne for the purpose of avoiding a general war :
but, in point of fact, they were to be considered as adopted at he did not then avail himself of the rights of this nation,
different periods. What were the circumstances that led to because he thought it inexpedient. But Mr. Conning sent
the adoption of the Quadruple Treaty with respect to Pur- a force into Portugal for the purpose of stepping in between
tugal? The Pretender to the Spanish Crown had left Spain Spain and Portugal, and preventing a war. The policy w i •li
before his brother's death, and established himself in Por. . had been pursued by Mr. Canning on that occasion was the
tugal. He was received by Don Miguel, who was regarded very reverse of the policy which had been recently pursued by
as an usurper here, although recognised by the Court of his Majesty's Government. If they thought that the object
Spain. Don Carlos had united his cause with Don Miguel ; which they had in view was desirable and legitimate, at least
he did not go the length of hoisting the Spanish colours, but let them pursue it in an open and honourable manner. He
several of his Spanish partisans got around him, and he thus certainly doubted if the Noble Lord would find the Right Hon.
formed the nucleus of a force which might have been the Chancellor of the Exchequer disposed to assist him in any
directed against Spain on a future occasion ; and, con- such undertaking ; but he ( Sir S. Canning) repeated that if
sleeted as he was with Don Miguel, that which was going on his Majesty's Government conceived that the object which they
in Portugal was a subject of great anxiety to the Spanish had in view was a justifiable one, let them avow it ; let them
Government. From such danger as then threatened the S;a ask for a vote in the comieittee of supply ; let them require
nish Government was desirous to be removed ; first, by ami- the House to place a large military force at their disposal.—
cable remonstrances, and, on the failure of that, by physical (Hear, hear.) He could not, however, suppose that any such
force. The subject then naturally presented itself to the Bri- intention was seriously entertained by the present .Cabinet.
tish Government, either to allow a Spanish force to enter a But that not being the case, it certainly would be a safer
country with which this is bound in the closest ties of inter- and more prudent line of conduct, on their part, were they.
course by a long-standing alliance—and, as his Noble Friend instead of bringing the royal marines from their ships, as they
was well aware of, they were obliged
_to send an armed force had done, to abstain from acts calculated to bring so much dis-
there, in case it was subject to a foreign invasion—they were credit on this country. He trusted that the House would he
then either to witness a foreign invasion, or, considering that of opinion that the case against his Majesty's Ministers had
there had not the cases liederis arisen, they were to come been wholly made out; he trusted that the time was aglength
within the spirit of the treaty with Portugal, and take up the approaching when they would be compelled to change their
common cause of the Queen of Spain. There were circum- system. It was impossible to restore to life and their families
stances that constituted a very natural, just, and cogent claim our gallant countrymen who had been sacrificed in the con-
upon the Government of this country. Ho could perfectly well test ; but at least the further effusion of British blood in such a
understand how the Government, taking a statesmanlike view cause might be stopped. It was a question the determination
of this matter, should enter into the Quadruple Treaty. But of which involved our national honour. We were bound to
when the arrangement was made, it was of material interest do justice to our brave countrymen. He ( Sir S. Canning)
to observe in what shape assistance was to be provided from did not call upon the House to pass a censure on his Mt-
them, as well as by other Powers. The principle of the lest Y's Government, but he did call epon the House to compel'
treaty was co-operation. The King of France was to aid his Majesty's Government to stop in their pernicious career.
in one way; the Spanish Government was to provide phy_ Lord LE VE SON said that the question seemed to him to
sical force ; the English Government was to afford naval have been treated more as an instrument of party warfare thao
force ; the object to be obtained was the expulsion from the as a fair inquiry into what was due by this country to Spaio
Peninsula of the two Princes. Under these circumstances, the and to the whole of Europe.—(Hear, hear, hear.) What
treaty was made, and that was the object for which it was to
was it that the House was really called upon to consider ?
operate. The policy of such a treaty did credit to his Ma-
In issuing the Order in Council permitting English troops
jesty's Government. Additional articles to the treaty had to enter into the service of the Queen, and in employing
been signed, but that was late in the same year—certainly the royal marines in the same cause, had his Majesty's Mie
after the distance of some months. In the meanwhile great niters confined themselves within the limits prescribed
changes had taken place in the Peninsula, and very conside- by the Quadruple Treaty, or had they overstepped those
rable changes had occurred in this country. If he recollected limits ?—( Hear, hear.) If their conduct had been consis-
rightly, a very considerable change had taken place in the tent with the conditions of the Quadruple Treaty (and so he
government of this country. When the first treaty had been believed it to have been), that conduct they were bound to '
made, Lord Grey was Premier ; at the time of the ad- continue.—(llear, hear.) He had himself, in the Chamber
ditiunal articles a change had taken place—first, in the of Deputies in Paris, heard the Liberal opposition to the Go-
retirement of Lord Stanley and three of his col- vernment of Louis Phillipe declare, that the English had
leagues, and then the subsequent retirement of Lord acquired the strongest claims to the gratitude of the Spanish
Grey'. He mentioned these facts rather to mark the nation.—(Hear, hear, hear.) If his Majesty's Government,
interval of time that had occurred, than for any specific bear- instead of taking the course which they bad adopted, had
ing that they had on the argument in question. What, then said, " Let the parties in Spain fight it out ; we will •
were the circumstances under which the additional articles were take no part in their proceedings," they might indeed
signed ? Don Carlos had come here—he had made his have satisfied the Tories, but they would have incurred the
escape from this country, and appeared in Spain. This condemnation of all Europe. If England and France had not
was, he believed, before the death of Zumalacarregui. acted as they had done, the Northern Powers would have
Don Carlos arrived in July, and the articles were signed poured in their supplies to Don Carlos. The Ministers of
in August. Don Carlos was in Spain at the time that those Powers had so evidently for their object to maintain a
the addition to the treaty was made ; and, notwith- connection with Don Carlos, that M. Mold's administration '
standing the treaty of Portugal was for the expulsion found it necessary to require from their respective Sovereigns
of the two Princes—notwithstanding all this, there was their immediate removal from office. He begged leave to
nothing in the additional articles for his expulsion. That ask those who appeared to be so anxious about the national
which was a great object in the first treaty was omitted honour, whether that honour would not have been stained if we
in the second, and a very vague character was given to it. As had deserted an ally at the very moment when she most re-
the requiring the assistance to be given limited that assistance, quired our aid ?—( Hear, hear.) He begged leave to ask
on the part of the King of the French, to have measures taken those who appeared to be so tender of our military repute-
to prevent supplies from passing the frontiers of France, so on thin, whether that reputation would be maintained by withdraw-
the part of the English, they were, only in case of necessity, ing from Spain our brave Legion, by withdrawing from Spain
to assist her Catholic Majesty with a naval force. This con- our brave Marines, whose employment on such a service was
firmed the view that the original idea of the treaty was not amply justified by the example set OR that point at Bastia by
one of naval operations, but that of a blockade—that the real the Marines under Lord Nelson ?—( Cries of " Hear, hear.")
intention of the treaty was to co-operate by sea where the civil For his (Lord Leveson's) part he could not help think-
war was going on. He had looked at the additional article, ing that the real objection to the employment of the latter
and he found that not only was it confined to naval force, but force in Spain was the efficiency of their succour.—( Hear,,
it bore the character that the naval force should be used in hear.) If the maxim that it was wise in a nation during
the most limited possible manner. But when he looked at a time of peace to prepare for a time of war, and if the
the execution of the treaty lie saw that not only was the naval declaration of Mr. Canning that the next war in Europe
force used in what he would call a military manner—not only would be a war of principles, had any weight, then the course
had the marines become a military force, but they had been adopted by his Majesty's Government was a wise course ; then
taken from their ships, and used at a considerable distance as it was most desirable to prevent the triumph of a prince who
a land force. This, he thought, incontestibly showed the was the representative arid impersonation of despotic power.
animus with which the Government was actuated. When he ( Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman who spoke last
looked at the contrast between the articles of the treaty and hid inveighed against the interference of a foreign force in
the conduct of his Majesty's Government, the question natu- any national quarrel. Did he not remember one memorable
rally arose whether, if they tacitly consented to these articles, pi ecedent of such interference in the history of our own coun-
they did so under the supposition that a naval force should only try ? Did he not remember that that Monarch, whose " glori-
be employed, and that limited to objects in harmony with ous memory" was toasted down to the present day, had em-
the circumstances which that service was calculated to pro- ployed foreign troops to co-operate with our ancestors in get-
duce, but that their policy, subsequent and collateral, was one ting rid of an obnoxious and tyrannical King?—( Hear, hear.)
of collusion, and one that was inconsistent with the views and He thanked the House for their patience. He hoped it would
feelings of a large portion of the people of this country. When be shown by the vote of the House that night, that the people
he looked at the execution of the treaty, he felt that this of England were not indifthrent to the issue of time Spanish
country had been surprised, and he might say, cheated.— contest—a contest of absolutism against constitutional govern-
(Hear, hear.) What had been the course of action pursued? ment—of fanaticism against religious toleration.--( The Noble
It was totally at variance with what might be really expected Lord sat down amidst loud cheers.)
from the terms of the treaty. When he recollected that that Mr. C. WOOD said the conduct of the opposition with
country ( Spain) had been the scene of action with which the respect to Spain was but the sequel of their conduct with re-
glories of this country were in the greatest possible degree spelt to Portugal. They had uniformly discouraged every
connected, and where the glory of those great actions was effort to obtain constitutional liberty, and had done everything
connected with the name of the great captain of the age— in their power to advocate and advance the principles of abso-
when he recollected these circumstances, and that it was lute monarchy.—(Hear, hear.) By motion after motion they
owing to the conduct of the present Government that nothing. had induced Lord Grey to act as he bad done with reference
but discredit, and circumstances of an unsatisfactory kind, to to one who had been denominated, even by the highest
leading to no good result, and terminating in disgrace, had cc- Tory authority " a perjured usurper." The Right Hon.
curred—when he saw all this taking place on the same ground, Gentlemen opposite seemed perfectly indifferent with respect
it was impossible not to be struck by the contrast, and to avoid to the character of Don Carlos ; and it was clear indeed that
having one's feelings excited in the strongest possible manner. the object of the motion before the House was to aid Don
The British troops also were not soldiers in the King's service, Carlos. The former attacks on foreign enlistment had been
or responsible to that service, or acting with all the advan- that night repeated, and the most extraordinary doctrines
tages belonging to that service, but men placed under every held on the subject. It had been maintained that the en-
possible disadvantage, exposed to the ingratitude and that na- trance of the subjects of this kingdom into the service of
tional feeling which had always been shown by Spaniards to other powers was calculated to lower the character of the
foreigners on the Spanish soil. It appeared that not only country, and that since the times of Queen Elizabeth no such
had the King's Government gone beyond the principle of practice had been exhibited. He was surprised that the Right
giving a military character to the naval operations, not Hon. Gentlemen had showed themselves so forgetful, he would
only did they employ all the marines in addition to the not say ignorant, as not to know that both officers and men
artillery, sappers, and miners, but the objectionable mode of had frequently obtained leave of the Sovereign of this country
giving military assistance to the Queen of Spain was at va- to enter into the service of Foreign Powers. He would not
riance with the letter of the treaty under which it was pro- trouble the House with many quotations from it, but he held in
fessed to be given. Then nattrrhlly a question arose, what his hand a list of officers without number, from the period of
great commercial interests of this country were sufficient to the Revolution to that of the general war in Europe, who had
justify the departure from the Treaty, or to reconcile the na- with leave of the Sovereign entered into the service of Foreign
tion to the burthens to which we had been put, and to make Powers. There was the case of Lord Keith, an English Rear-
the very heavy expenses we had to bear satisfactory ? He Admiral, who had permission given him to go into the Russian
might add also, their assisting to spread demoralization service, at the head of which he continued for many years. Sir
amongst a body of men, the miserable remnant of whom would Sidney Smith entered the Swedish service, and fought against
return to this country. Were we to find compensation for Russia. Up to 1819 it was a common practice for the subjects
these in the commercial advantages which we might expect to of this country to enter into foreign service. 'The Foreign En-
derive from Spain ? Now two years of the war had elapsed, lirtment Act was passed, not with a view to its being a permanent
and they had heard nothing of such advantages, They cer- Act, but for temporary purposes, as applied to the case of parti-
tainly had heard that the Spanish Government had relieved miler states, and that was the distinct, avowed object of those
our merchants from the payment of the extraordinary contribu- who passed that measure; so much so that when a Noble Earl
tions. This did credit to his Noble Friend ( Lord Palmers- in another place (the Earl of Eldon) protested against the Bill,
tun) and to his Majesty's Ministers who had carried this into on the ground that it might be made a general measure, the
execution, but this was a very small advantage. What were then Lord Chancellor said it was a mistake to suppose it was
the principles of commerce as generally received, and which an Act of general application. The Foreign Enlistment Act was
were allowed to
-regulate commercial neguciations ? They passed at the instance of Spain, to prevent the supply of men
were those of mutual advantage. No party should seek ex- and arms being sent to the South American colonies. But
elusive advantages. They knew that such a course of however cautious the Right Hon. Gentleman might have been,
things would not last, and that they must rest on the broad however careful he might have been, the object of the motion
basis of mutual. advantage. There was nothing of the kind was clear. His Noble Friend distinctly disclaimed the sup-
to be obtained. It was not to be supposed, if Spain was in- port of Don Carlos, but there were those who had not hesi-
(dined to make a treaty of a more liberal character in our fa- tated to avow themselves Carlists ; and an lion. Member for
your, that our ally France could be omitted. It was natural Dover called Don Carlos Charles the Fifth. Nay, further,
to suppose that the same advantage should be given to France a Noble English Lord. who was not certainly a peer of the
as now given to this country. No man was more anxious than realm hail not hcaiteeed to appear in person against the troops
he was that a good understanding should be maintained be- of this country. to take part against the troops cf her Majesty
tween this country and France. But had these transactions time Queen of Spain, for the purpose of retaking a ,battery, the
rendered the connection between the two countries more inti- fire of which had been directed against British soldiers, He
mate, or had it brought the present Government of this noun- (Mr. Wood) rose for the purpose, not of going into the gene-
try nearer to the French Court? No such thing.—( Hear.) ral question, hut of answering that part of the Right Hon.
From the speech of his Noble Friend (Lord Palmerston) de- Gentleman's speech which related to the employment of ma-
livered before Easter, it appeared that during the last year nines 011 shore, a subject which was more iinmedir.tely con-
that Noble Lord himself had made a proposal to obtain some- fleeted with that department to which he was attnched. He,
thing like intervention on the part of the French Government. could not but be surprised to hear tne Right lion. Gentle-
If he (Sir Stratford Canning) remembered rightly, the Noble mail say that he thought they ought to give to the treaty the,
Lord had stated that a proposal had been made to the French most limited construction which it %venial-Jean It was a new
Government to afford an opportunity for elle introduction of doctrine to be held in that House, that to sacred obligations
a French force to complete the pacification of Spain. This entered into between. friendly parties only a limited meaning;
appeared to be the result of our unsuccessful operations, and should be affixed loy one of th a contracting parties.—( Heere
it led to this, that instead of securing the independence of hear.) The llight Hon. Baronet the Member for 'Parn
Spain from France, according to our established policy, it led worth stated ow a former 'occasion, that that treaty raised the
to the reverse, and this country, moreover, enjoyed the mor- general exPentation that the Queen of Spain would be entitled .
tification of a refusal. We had asked for the intervention of tet uphold
France, arid in ',gat treaty, and therefore, without saying one word..
the teeth of this request, on the part of the to defeaid that treaty, he felt himself bound to answer the-
Noble Lord, they were subjected. to the mortification of, e eha4e of departing from the obligations of that treaty, As
refusal. Well, had the pacificelion of Spain adva'heed ? ao the manner in which the Marines had been employ ed, the,
Why, notwithstanding what they had heard of the, vast re- ' IZi,ht Hon. Gentleman stated, that the Marine, force being-
sources of the Queen of Spain, notwithstandine6
armies and the moral and mseterial force 'her large employed was a surprise and a cheat upon tiae House. Noe
giv.en her by her one would suppose that such instances heed ever occurred_
Government being immediately rcesognised
hit! the three most before; and moreover, the Right Hon, 'and Gallant Officer!
England, France, stated that, in his opinion, nothing less. was intended than thlr
powerful neighbouring kingdom, namely.
and Portugal ; notwithstaaedina "these sedy'aritarres, what was blockade of the coast of Strain. hie would put this matt eg
the result ? The Queon wag ow i "i-
-geet to apply'for assistance, to the test of fact and teperieneee. Had naval co-opee-4-.
and that being granted, end on .a. most extensive scale, they tion never been rendered by tiee naval force of this country r
were still further from the pat alleation and tranquillity of __had a naval :own never co-operated with the land forcess
Spain than when the civil Wi r cosnnseneed._( Hear.) It of this cournry ? Looking to what had passed in form errh
would be something under fail ure if there had been a miti- vea's, he contended that the principle of naval co-o•ae-
gation of the horrors of the wee •—it' they had. found'
the bar- :etti.o.a Was fully and fairly borne out and justified in ,e•
barons system mitigated. a
----h 11 me contrary, tamy found, as hi" 1 'case,. even if they put the limited construction of the N
Hon. and Gallant
Friend ogler ved, they had. done nothineh • :: co-o eration " which had been suggested. He was,
to prevent the dreadful ayr tem of butenere whir', corn-in
tiewilliPtee to trespass at any great length on the pee
meneed with fresh vigour the 7.noment ou'• V 1' ' *
_sellers ,te.rived
Spain. The arrival of' the Br •F.tisli ereldie ,' in
h “Ould take the liberty of stating; and evert,
the revival of butchery. This was ai -3 was hile, signal for .
cw
longer than he wished, it was for this
the arrival of British sold' to e compliment paid to trespassed .
terse The that lie wished to prove that the cases he quoted .
though there might be no speeifi y y might be told that
ho e f sir ele or isolated examples—they were not
were interests conneoted with ti e •ritish interest, yet there t 3: o
and then, but they were those wh;
and the cutting only now
interests of' humanity which me
world at large .
l intati •
aed the Government h..
in eened every year of the war in every part of tk
the course they had takerbefore he did this lie might be t .
his Noble Friend (In la r: i He rather thought that i'erliaps, however,
few words with reference to the battle of 1
this as the e ;,- • iu ..
• dill erston) would repudiate 'or say a
' I course 'sr-icy:el on wl : ' the The Right Hon. Gentlemanhad o course eet e,
len the policy of
Government Was f(ll,lr4ded but • ' •according to his view of the e
it i .ad been insinuated by Gen- the strongest case,
Vernet:l wile hati stet ea tit'e N 11, '►eht Hon. Gentleman stated that eaptecZes
1 ' a mlf ;Lords tide of the House, But tac hig.