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London, England, 1837-12-01 00:00:00

Sir R. PEEL and Lord J. RUSSELL suggested that ss
there was no charge conveyed by the motion, the better course
would be to allow the Hon. and Gallant Member to withdraw
the motion. This recommendation seeming to be the gene-
ral wish of the House, the motion was withdrawn.
IRISH CONSTABULARY.

Colonel PE RCE VA L, in pursuance of notice, moved for
a return of the names of the chief constables submitted to the
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland for promotion under the new Bill
by the Inspector-General, distinguishing the names of those
promoted, if any. His object in moving for this return was
to ascertain clearly in whose appointment were the places of
chief constables in Ireland.
Sir R. BATE SON seconded the motion.

Lord MORPETH found himself again unable to accede
to the motion of the Hon. and Gallant Member. He
thought, however, he should be able to satisfy him as to its
being unnecessary. In point of fact, so far from the names
of the chief constables being submitted to the Lord Lieute-
nant, they were submitted by that functionary to the In-
spector-General. The Lord Lieutenant retained in his own
hands the selection of those who were to fill the offices of
chief constable. There had been no transfer by the Con-
stabulary Bill of these appointments to the Inspector-Ge-
neral, nor was any such transfer at any time contemplated
either by him or the Government. The appointment to the
office of chief constable had always been vested in the Lord
Lieutenant, and so they remained. The appointment of sub-
constables, before the passing of the Act, lay with the Local
Magistracy, and these by the Bill were transferred to the In-
spector-General, and on every occasion were by him made.
This was the error made by the Honourable and Gallant
Member. He confounded the appointments of chief constables
and those of constables and sub-constables. In regard to the
former the Act made no alteration ; in the case of the latter
the appointments were transferred from the Local Magis-
trates to the Inspector-General, and, he repeated, the right
was invariably exercised by him, as, by the statement of Col.
Shaw Kennedy, in a letter addressed to him, would appear.
The Noble Lord here read the following extract from the
communication in question: ‘• The appointments of men
to the force, as sub-constables--the promotion of sub-
constables of the second class, to the first class—of
sub-constables, of the first class, to the situation of
constable—and of constable, to the situation of head-
constable, have been left entirely with the Inspector-
General ; the Government having in no way interfered to in-
fluence the selection of men for entering the force, nor has the
Government influenced the promotions to the situations
named.—J. S. KENNEDY." With respect to the re-appoint-
naent of Mr. Gore Jones, alluded to by the Hon. Seconder,
he had only to say that the Government had seen nothing in
the conduct of that Gentleman rendering him unfit for the
public service, and, accordingly, he had been appointed to a
station in the Southern part of Ireland.
Mr. SHAW was'of opinion that the view of the case taken
by the Hon. and Gallant Mover was the correct one, and that
all the appointments in the constabulary force were by the Bill
invested in the Inspector-General. -
Mr. BELLEW eulogised the existing police force in Ire-
land, which he asserted was fairly and impartially selected.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL denied that on the occasion of
any discussion upon the Constabulary Bill he or any Member
of the Goveroment had held language calculated to raise the
supposition that the appointments of chief constables were to
be taken from the patronage of the Lord Lieutenant, and
vested in the Inspector-General. Such a thing was never
even contemplated.
Mr. SHAW was proceeding again to address the House,
but was called to order.

Sir R. BATESON explained.
Colonel PERCEVAL replied.
Mr. FORBES stated that it was distinctly understood that
the nomination and regulation were to be altogether in the
hands of Colonel Shaw Kennedy.
The motion was then put and negatived without a division.
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