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tual it must be compulsory', and they could not make it
compulsory with justice until all the workhouses were
opened.

Lord J. RUSSELL did not anticipate that there would
be such an influx on particular districts, and if the argument
held good in this instance, it was equally good against open-
inz houses of industry, hospitals, or any other charitable
i: s itutions.

Lord STANLEY thought the argument of his Noble
Friend with regard to hospitals inapplicable, because those
institutions were confined to cases occasioned by visita-
tion of God. Unless they provided that local assess-
ments should provide for distress within each particular
locality, districts that were well managed would be obliged
to bear the burthens of parishes that were ill-managed.
Lord 110 WICK said it was not denied that there would
he great difficulty and inconvenience in the gradual intro-
duction of the measure, but a remedy was provided in the
discretion given to the Commissioners.
The O'CONOR DON concurred in opinion with the
Noble Lord (Stanley).
Sir J. GRAHAISI could not understand why, when the
Union was formed, they should not, as in England, proceed
to the appointment of guardians.
After a few words from Mr. Shaw, Lord Ebrington, Mr.
Goulburn, Mr. Woulfe, Mr. P. Scrope, Captain Jones,
and Mr. Lennard, the clause was postponed.
On clause 18 being proposed, enabling the Commission-
ers to postpone the first or any subsequent election of
guardians,
Lord CLEMENTS moved the omission of the words
" any subsequent."
After a short conversation,

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said the matter was not
worth contending for, and the words were accordingly
struck out.

On clause 19 being proposed,
Lord STANLEY proposed that at the end of the clause
the following words should be added :—" In such manner,
nevertheless, as no town land comprised within any Union
shall be divided, but that each separate town land shall be
included in the same electoral district." His object was to
divide the townships, which varied in extent from 25 to 500
acres of land, and this plan would avoid the cutting up of
property.
. After a short discussion the Committee divided, when
there appeared-7 •

Per the clause
For the amendment 47
Majority 22
Clauses 18 and 19 were then agreed to.
On clause 20 being proposed,
Mr. LENN ARD proposed that the words " annual
income" should be substituted for " annual value" in this
clause, which goes to subject the landholder to the poor-.
rates.

After a short conversation the rental, which was fixed in
the Bill at 401. per annum, was proposed to be'reduced to
2.5/., and this alteration was agreed to.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD proposed another amendment on
the same clause, to the effect that to a population of every
3,000 in a Union there should be at least one guardian.
Lord MORPETH thought it would be better to leave
this part of the clause to the discretion of the Commissioners.
On this amendment the Committee divided, when the
numbers were—
For the amendment .,. 11
Against it 77
Majority for the original clause 66
The clause was then agreed to.
The House resumed, the Chairman reported progress,
and asked leave to sit again.
Lord J. RUSSELL would to-morrow propose the
amendment of the Hon. Member (Mr. Lucas) in the way
of an instruction to the Committee.

PRYME postponed his motion which stood for this
day.
Mr. ROBINSON obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
permit the grinding of foreign corn now in bond.
Lord J. RUSSELL moved fur leave to bring in a Bill
to regulate the periods at which rate and tax-payers are now
liable to pay the same, and to abolish the stamp duty on the
admission of freemen.

Mr. FORBES objected to bringing in so important a
Bill at that late hour, and moved an adjournment.
The House divided--
Ayes 9
Noes

Majority .. —lB
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill
Mr. LYNCH obtained leave to bring in a Bill to pro-
mote the employment of the poor in Ireland, Lord Morpeth
having premised that Government did not pledge them-
selves to support it.
The Order of the Day for the second reading of the Re-
gistration and Marriage Acts Amendment Bill was read,
and the discussion fixed for this day.
In answer to an observation from Mr. FORBES, that
the expense would fall upon the land,
Lord J. RUSSELL said the only object of this Bill was
to facilitate the operation of the Bill passed last session. In
this Bill the expense was laid upon the land.
Mr. ROBINSON moved the first reading of his Bill to
allow the grinding of foreign corn in bond.
Colonel WOOD objected to the Bill, the tendency of
which was to get rid of the Corn-law by a side wind.
The Bill was then read a first time, and ordered to be
read a second time that day fortnight.
Adjourned at Half-past Twelve.