The Sun.
London, England, 1830-06-30 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

lIOUSE OF LORDS-(LAST NIGHT.)

At Five o'clock the LOAD Cilal'icztt.oa took his seal
on the Woohack. There was a full attendance of Peers.

Below the Throne, the space allotted to Members of thi
[louse of Commons was crowded, the Address and An.
,iwerhaving in the Lower House been already disposed (•f

The Duke of WTI LLINGTON and Vi aunt Lot ToN
rose—the latter Noble Lord with a view of presenting a
petition, but he immediately eat down again.

Ills MAJESTY'S 3IESSAGE.

The Dukc of WELLING lON—My Lords, a Messigi
from the King.
The Message was ten bawled by the Clerk to the Lard
,Chancellor, who read it as follows, all the Peers being un-
covered
" WILLIAM, It.

" The King feels assured, that the House of Commons
entertains a just s, nse of the loss which his Majesty and
the country have sustained by the death of the late King,
his Majesty's lamented brother, and that the House of
Commons sympathizes with him Majesty on this mournful
event, which has involved his Majesty in deep affliction.
" The King, has taken into his eoniideration the
ad-
vanced period of the Station, and the state of the public
business, and is unwilling to recommend to the attention of
Parliament any new matter which may admit of postpone..
merit without detriment to the public service.
" His Majesty has also adverted to the provisions of the
law, by which, in consequence of the demise of his late
Majesty, the duration of the present Parlitent must ne-
cessarily tern;:nate at an early period ; an being of opi-
nion that it will be most conducive to tlf general con-
venience and to the interests of the country to call a
new Parliament with as little delay as may be practicable,
his Majesty recommends to the Houle of Commons to
mike such temporary provision as may be requisite for the
conduct of the public service in the interval that must
elapse between the close of the present Session and the
lassemblifig of a new Parliament. " W. It."
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The Duke of WELLINGTON addressed their Lord-
ships in the following words :—My Lords, I take the
earliest opportunity of joining with your Lordsi.ips in your
expression of condolence to his Majesty, upon the severe
loss which his Majesty, your Lordships, and the country
At large have sustained by the death of his late Alajesty.
My Lords, with respect to the latter part of the Message
which has bean su'rmitted to both Houses of Parliament
by his Majesty's commands, I beg to postpone all consi-
deration
of it to another period, feeling, as I do, convinced
that the loss which we have sustained, renders at present a
discusson unadvisable. My Lords, our late Sovereign having,
received the best education which this country could afford,
had the singular advantage of having passed the earl)
part of his life under the immediate superintendence of
the King, his father, and the subsequent part in the so-
ciety of the mast eminent men that this or any othei
country ever produced, and in the society of the'
most eminent foreigners that ever resorted to
this country. Accordingly, my Lords, his Majesty's
manners received a polish, and his understanding a degree
of cultivation, which was almost unknown in any other
instance. He acquired a degree of knowledge upon al
subjects which it was most important for a Sovereign
of this country to be acquainted with. Those advantage.
he ltrried with him to the Government, which he after
warts exercised in the name of his illustrious fisher, arid
anovereign upon the Throne up to the time of
his lamented death. During all that time, my Lords, and
up to the last moment of his life, no man ever approached
his Majesty who did not feel gratified by his learn-
ing, his condescension, affability, and kindness cf dis-
position. These advantages were not confined, my Lords,
to external show of manners, but I appeal to every Noble
Lord who has ever had the honour of transacting busbies,
under his Majesty's direction, whether, on every occasion.
his Majesty did not manifest a degree of ability, of talent,
and of knowledge in the most minute affairs of life beyone
what could be expected from a person in his exalted
situation. This is not all, my Lords, his Majesty was the
most distinguished and most munificent patron of the
ins in this country, and in the world, and he
has left behind him the largest collection ever possessed
by any individual, of the eminent works of the arts of
his own country, and a collection of the works of art gene-
rally, such as few Sovarcigns, and such as no individual (lot
as an individual his Majesty possessed them) ever possessed.
This being the case, I beg your Lordships to recollect the
state in which his Majesty, in 1810, found Europe, and
this country included in Europe, and the state in
which he has left it. Having taken that into cor-
sideration, and the great collisions, the glee
events which have occurred during his reign, I sa,
that we have reason to he proud of such a Sovereign.—
(1-lear )—I am convinced, therefore, that your Lord.
ships will Join with me in an expression et
condolence to his Majesty upon the severe los
which he, in common with the country at large, has sue
tamed. The next point to which I wish to direct you;
Lordships' attention, is an expression of congratulation ti
his Majesty on his accession to the Throne. His Ms-
'cloy in his declaration Irma the Throne has stated to tb
country what the country may expect under his Govern-
ment. His Majesty has stated that he has passed hi
life in the service of his country, that he revere-
The example of his father and his brother, and he
calls upon Parliament for its support and confidence is•
his endeavours to promote the happiness and peace of the
country, and to maintain the established religion which
forms the buds of the rights and liberties of the people.
am satisfied that your Lordships will be anxious to noncom
in the Address which holds out to his Majesty hopes of
your zealous co-operation, and that you will agree most
cordially in the Address which will be read to you. The
Noble Duke then moved,

5 " That an humble address he presented to his Majesty,
to enure his Majesty that this House cordially sympathize,
with his Majesty in the deep affliction in which his Mejcsts
has been involved by the death of his lamented brother, the
late King, and humbly to condole with his Majesty so
'he lee. of a Sovereign so justly dear to his Majesty an,'
his people.
" 'lO express to his Majesty the grateful sense which ws
entertain of the blessings which this nation has enjo)e,
under the reign of hie late Majesty, from the continuance
pace, and from the anxious efforts of his late Mojest)
to encourage the arts, to extend the commerce, and te
advance the general welfare of the country.
" To beseech his Majesty to accept our cordial con
eratulatioes on his Majesty's accession to the throne of hi
ancestors, and to assure his Majesty of our ardent attach
cent to his Majesty's person and Government, and of out
sincere conviction that the reign of his Majesty will he
distinguished by a constant endeavour, under the hleesim
of Divine Providence, to maintain the religion, the laws
end the liberties of this kingdom, and to promote the hap
pines' cf his faithful people."
Earl GREY could nut omit stating to their Lordship,
his entire conc•turence in every part of the Address, anr•
he was persuaded that not a single dissentient could be
found among their Lordship. With that convictior,
lie should abstain front adverting to any topics widel.
might be likely to produce a difference of opinion. Ht
trusted that their Lordships would excuse him lot
expression to feelings as sincere as any Noble
Lord, in agreeing to the Address of condolence
and congratulation which this House was called on to
express.—(Hear, hear, hear.).—The Noble Duke had
alluded to the declaration of his Majesty from the
throne. He (Earl G.) would say that that declaration
save unqualified satisfaction ; and knowing, a,
he slid the character of the illustrious indiridnal by
whom it was made, he was prepared, in common with
the country at large, to expect the bilfillment of everything•'
it contained. Having said thus much it was unnecessar)e
for him to add more than to say that the Noble Duke ha,'
done right in abstaining from topics which might give rise
to division of opinion. Although much of what had beet.
proposed, and much of what had been omitted this day,
furnished matter for serious consideration, yet it was
right that it should be reserved for a future time.
when the report would be brought up. He trusted the
Noble Duke would state some time when whatever
might be done on this subject might he done as calmly;
and as deliberately as the occasion required.
The Duke of BUCKINGHAM entirely *onion-red in
the address, and bore testimony as to the private virtues
of the Sovereign by whose lamented death he,
in addition to the loss which he sustained in common
with the country at large, had lost a private friend,
a remembrance of whose kindness would ever excite in his
breast feelings of the deepest gratitude.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord GODERICH approved of the House abstain.
ing from topics that might excite discussion, and
could not forbear following the example of the Noble
Earl and the Noble Duke of expressing, vita voce, the
feelings which he entertained upon this occasion. It had
been his lot for years to serve the late King, and during
a short period of that service, he had received the comic.
wending confidence of his Majesty in the highest office,
and he would not do justice to• his own feelings of his
.Majesty's kindness for the honour conferred upon him, if he
did not join most heartily in every sentiment expressed
by the Noble Duke oppOsite. . .
The Address having been unanimouslyagreed-to,
The Duke of WELLINGTON gave notice that he•
would to-morrow move their Lordships to take into con-
sideration the other parts of the Message.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from

Ireland, and whether any and what measures were to bet
adopted to apply some relief ; and the Noble Duke atusweredl
that he hail heard of some distress, occasioned by the high 'I
price of provisions, but not from any scarcity. The only
inference that be could draw from that answer was, tha
money must be in great plenty iu Ireland ; for if provisions
were dear, but nut scarce, it would argue that money muss
be in great plenty, which he believed would not be found
to be the ease. He was induced to repeat the question to
the Noble Duke from some accounts which he had seen of
a serious disturbance which took place in the city of Li.
merick, in which some lives were lost. 'I his account, it
was true, rested on no better authority than the newspapers.
but he thought that an account given with such circum-
stantial details was very likely to have foundation in fact,
though the statement might be exaggerated. The riot, o:
disturbance, was important, from the cause in which it
was said to have originated. It was not owing to some ol
those accidental collisions which sometimes take place be-
tween the people and the military, but was said to hay,
arisen from the pressure of want a►nsngst the former. Hr
repeated, that he had not any other authority fur the ac-
count than that which he had mentioned, but he now
wished to know from the Noble Duke whether Govern-
ment had received any account of the transaction ; and if it
arose from the pressure of distress, whether any measures
were adopted for its relief?
The Doke of WELLINGTON said, he had got infor
motion that a serious disturbance had taken place i:
Limerick, and that some lives were lost before it was
quelled ; bnt he had not read the patticulars of the ac-
count which was received. In answer to the Noble Lord's
question on Friday, he stated that corns distress existed in
some parts of Ireland, owing to the high price of pro
visions, particularly of that food which was the moat
.common amongst the people—potatoes ; but this was no:
a new occurrence. There was not a year in which some-
thing oft the kind was not felt amongst the labouring
classes at this period. When the stock of potatoes whicl
they had been able to obtain out of their own gardens we
-xhausted, which in very many instances it was before
the new crop was fit for use, the poor were obliged to
resort to the markets, and the consequence was, a r:a
took place, which, as the poor had but a slight commis(
.f money, served to increase their distress. But, however
much any privation or suffering amongst any class was ti
be regretted, it was the fact, and was almost unavoidable.
It arose out of the state of the country. He had no cantle.
information on the subject than any other Noble Lori
acquainted with the state of Ireland, but when the Nobl.
Marquis came there to question him, the Noble 3larqui.
should himself state what be knew on the subject.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said, that he had
information as to the distress which prevailed in many
parts of Ireland, and no Minister dared deny that it di(
-xiat, but he was not hound to come there with state-
nents which ought more properly to come from his Ma-
jesty's Government. The Noble Duke was at the head o!
t department of the Government which exercised a con-
siderable influence over all the other departments, and is
was his duty to obtain the fullest information as to th.
state of the country, and to submit it to Parliament, tha
some measure of relief might lie devised, if it should b
`otincl necessary. It was on Friday, that the riot to whirl
!se adverted, occurred in Limerick, arising, as was said
rrotn the distress of the people, and yet on that very day
the Noble Duke had told their Lordships, that there was
no scarcity of provisions in Ireland, but that they wet,
fear. The Noble Duke talked of a periodical starvatios
coming round as a matter of course. He (Lord Clanri •
,•arde) was surprised that the population was not mud
thinner than it was found to be in Ireland, in consequent-.
if this annual visitation. But if there was this periodic::
-tarvation, it showed a state of things in the country, ti
which some remedy should be applied. He thought h.
had made out a case which demanded investigation. Surely
it would not be denied that when men, women, and chi!
!red, were driven to such acts of outrage by the pressure
if want, come steps ought to be taken, with as little delay
Is posssible, to remove, if possible, the causes which drov.
them to such acts.

The Earl of LIMERICK said, that es he was connectee
with the city in which the disturbance took place, tit
would say a few words, lest his silence should be under•
•tool as an admission of the correctness of the account.
•hat had appeared. He had information on the subject,
—not front the newspapers, hut from a respectable indi-
vidual in that city. From this it appeared, that the rio•
oegan in a frolic of some boys, as early as eight. o'clock in
•he morning_: this was suffered to proceed until the nunt.
iiersof the parties were strengthened by an accession tit
4ome women, who were neither silent or inactive on the
iccasien : the women were soon after joined by the men.
tnd finding no interruption front the civil authoritie.
which ought to have interfered at the commencement
they proceeded to various acts of outrage. They attacked
.everal places where provisions were to he found, and helve,:
themselves to bread and other articles; but it did nol
,rem as if hunger was the only incentive, if it was at'
411, to their outrage ; for they broke into several stores!
end shops, and supplied themselves with an article whirl.
men and women were fond of—he meant whisky. They
tlso took—to enable themselves the better to provide
against want—money in several instances. The mai-
Lary were at last called out, but the Mayor, God bless
'tint, allowed the mob to regale themselves in thi.
manner at the public expellee, before he allowed the
military to interfere in dispersing them. Now, he ad.
nitted that there might be distress amongst many an en-
;aged. but lie did not think that distress was the cause of
:he riot, which might easily have been prevented if pro-
per measures were adopted at the commencement. It art
:rue, that at this particular time of the year, just before
he harvest, distress was felt amongst the labouring
classes more than at any other time, and he owned be wa.
not surprised that even a spark should kindle into a flame
n that country, when he saw publications sent forth
tmongst the people there which were calculated to,excitc
yen the most torpid—much snore his countrymen, wilt:
.vere so very apt to take fire on the slightest oceasions.
When he saw them excited to exchange what were termed
worthless rags fur gold—when he saw attempts to sow
disunion, to destroy the confidence which sought to exis
between the people and the Government—when he•
uund this done at a time when those who veers the real
'riends of Ireland were endeavouring to bury all feelings
of the past, and to promote that union which a recent
measure of Government was calculated to produce, he
was not surprised at such scenes as those to which his
Noble Friend had alluded. He admitted the fact of the
disturbance; but he could not concur with his Noble
Friend in thinking that it was produced by tits pressure
of absolute want.

The Earl of WINCHILSEA said the accounts in the
papers were certainly very different from that given by the
Noble Earl who spoke last. The Noble Earl said the
disturbance commenced in a frolic, and the papers stated,
that it arose from want. This was in some respect borne'
eut by what fell from the Noble Duke, who admitted the
recurrence of periodical want amongst the people, by their
inability to purchase provisions. Surely such a state of
things as this required the application of some remedy.
It showed that Ireland was in that state which required'
the serious attention of Government. As to what fell
irom the Noble Earl (Limerick) on the attempts made to'
inflame the minds of the people of Ireland by publications
tddressed to them, lie owned it did not surprise him,
when he found so many similat attempts allowed to pass,
with impunity. He should wish to know from the Mew.'
hers of his Majesty's Government, whether it was intended
to institute prosecutions against the members of a late as-1
sOciation in Ireland—of those who had most ill gaily as-
sociated together for purposes which could nnt be other-
wise than ruinous to the country ? That body was per-
mitted to do much mischief before it was put down. Men
were allowed to. swell into temporary consequence, who
would have been utterly insignificant if met by the severity
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the town of Galway, against the Galway Town Regola-roif the law in their first attempt at illegal combination. i;
Ition Bill. 'fi? Some of them ought not to have been allowed to leave F
DISTRESS IN IRELAND—DISTURBANCES IN `lreland until prosecutions were instituted against them, '
LIMERICK. and until they were made to feel that the law was not t.)
Viscount LORTON presented a petition from the in- ..
be set at defiance with impunity. Hs was not an advo-
habitants of Aboyne against. any increase of taxation in cats for Government prosecutions, except where the';;
;Ireland. He took the opportunity of recommending this public sectuity required it, but he thought the Govern- Ili:.!
!subject to the serious consideration of his Majesty's Mi-ment of Ireland and of this country had much to answer!'
'rasters. The feeling in that country was unanimous in for in not having taken immediate and active measures to
imploring Parliament that no ad'iition might be made to . bring the members of the ilicgal association to which he ll]
their present burdens, because the country was not in a' had alluded to justice. !!! i
condition to bear increased taxation. Ireland was suffer- 1 Tee Duke of WELLINGTON, in answer to the Noble ii.j
ing much from the numbers of her poor who were unem- :Earl's question, begged to sly that when the association to 1.1
ployed, and though much had been said on the subject 2 which he referred had taken that course which required )i
rom time to time, be was sorry that no measure of relief_ the interference of Government, steps were taken to put it A,
in that respect had been brought forward. The subject ' down. A Proclamation was issued by the Lord Lieutenant, erl
was one of the utmost importance, and he now gave' which had that effect, and if any attempts had been made
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notice, that early in the next Session of Parliament he to act contrary to that authority, measures would have li
should submit a motion embracing a plan for the employ-1. been instantly adopted to enforce the lrw, and to punish
.vent of the labouring poor in that country, in which he,, those by whom it was opposed. There was, he must says 7
hoped he should have the support of Government and of: no want of activity on the occasion on the part of the 11
that House. Some well-regulated. system of employment Lord Lieutenant or the Irish Government.
in Ireland would have the effect of preventing so rainy of t' The Earl of DARNLEY said that the circumstances 40
the Irish poor from corning over here in search of employ- ; which the Noble Lords who preceded him had alluded as
incur, which when they could not obtain reduced them to \ to the distress in Ireland, showed the necessity of some :.
a state of the most pitiable distress, and often entailed con- ! tro.asure for the relief of the poor in that country. He ic.;
:iderable expense to the public here. - meant some provision in the nature of a poor law ; and :
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE would take that op- , until that was adopted, the same state of distress, with its f
'portunity of repeating u question which he put to the Noble necessary consequences, would continue to punish them.
Duke (Wellington) on Friday, but the answer to which `He trusted hat this subject might, in the next Session, 1 ,
did not at all appear to him to be satisfactory. Ile had excite that attention of Parliament which its great ins-
asked r]
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the Noble Duke Whether he had received any infor- 1 portance demanded.
matron as tolthe distress which prevailed in some parts of ': The petition was then read,and ordered to lie on the table. r.. 1

FORGERY.
Viscount LORTON presented a petition from Brighton,
Against the punishment of drath for forgery.
Lord DURHAM presented a similar petition from
Messrs. Esdaile and Co. and other bankers of London.
Lord HOLLAND presented a similar petition from
Devonport.
Lord CALTHORPE presented similar petitions from
'Billiton and Rochdale.—They were ordered to lie on the
table.
EAST RETFORD DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL.
Tim Order of the Day for the further consideration of
this Bill having been read,
Tae Marquis of LONDONDERRY protested against
proceeding further with the measure at so advanced a
period of the Session, and when, from the probably speedy
dissolution of Parliament, nothing definitive could be done
in the matter. He gave notice that on Friday he should
!move that the further consideration of the Bill be post-
poned till next Session.
The examination of a witness was proceeded with.
A discussion took place as to the day to which the
iecond reading of the Bill should be adjourned. It was
finally agreed that the further consideration should be
postponed till Friday.—Adjourned.

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