The Sun.
London, England, 1839-06-08 00:00:00

THE MARQUIS OF TWEEDDALE'S 1

THE MURDER IN PRINCES-

STREET

DRAIN TILE MACHINE.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

ADJOURNS?_ INQUEST.

SIR,—A paragraph appeared in The Sun of to-day,
under the above title, taken from the Farmer's Maga-
zine, evidently written in a style of extravagant eulo-
gium of the wonderful work in the way of making drain
tiles, which this tnachine, called the" Marquis of Tweed-
dale'? (though the invention can be proved not to be
his at all), is said to perform—showing forth, moreover,
the great advantages it gives in expense, time, and trouble,
over the old manual mode of making tiles, &c.

The inquest en the body of Mr. Westwood was resumed
yesterday morning, at nine o'clock, in the Chapel of St.
James's workhouse. The greatest excitement continues
to prevail in the immediate neighbourhood. Mr. De
Courcey, who lives next door to'the deceascd, and who is
one of the Jury, said that Stevenson called upon him on
Thursday, and offered to give up the key. He promised
to attend the inquest this morning.
Alfred Bannister- said he lived at No. 20. Euston-street,
Seymour-street, and is a watchmaker. On the night of
the murder be saw deceased. Deceased went out between
5 and 6 o'clock, and returned shortly before 8. Witness
soon after left. There was no mischievous looking person
called at the shop of Mr. Westwood that evening. When
he left, the workshop was secure. He knows nothing of
the lead weight which was found. It is a sash weight.
Near the staircase there is a trap-door, which leads to a
cellar. Le Roche, the foreman, once lodged with the de-
ceased, but he left in consequence of the unhealthiness of
the situation. The deceased and Le Reche had had some
angry words on account of the latter coming late to his
work. Le Reche was not at deceased's all day on Monday.
Deceased generally closed his shop about nine o'clock.
When witness left on Monday night, deceased wished him
good night ; he was then sitting in the parlour with his
wife and another lady.
Mr. Henry Berestord said he was a police inspector, C
division. He was here the other evening and saw the man
Robinson. On that evening he went with Robinson into
his mother's house, No. 30, Crown street, Soho. Robin-
son produced the coats which he wore on Monday night.
Witness examined them minutely, and there was not the

Now, Mr. Editor, as I happen to come from East
Lothian, where practical experience to a greater extent
than anywhere else has been had of it in many of the
most extensive brick and tile works there, I beg, with
your permission, to make the following statements re-
garding it, from my own personal knowledge of it,
which you and your readers may rely upon as unexagge-
rated and strictly true. The idea of a tile and brick-
making machine is excellent and perfectly practicable—
but the said Marquis's is by far too complicated—so
much so, that the " wear and tear" of it, and current
expenses for endless canvasses, &c. &c., besides the ori-
ginal cost, 701., overcomes mightily its advantages.
Were there a tile machine on a simple never-go-wrong,
or not-likely.to-go-wrong principle, then would we have
cause to flourish away in its praise ; but whenever the
silence of practical men reigns on any machine, while
the extravagant bombast of theoretical and hearsay men
sounds, then, Mr. Editor, that is a bad sign of the ma-
chine itself—and in the• Marquis's tile affair we have a
case to the point.
The new patentee, too, of the above machine charges
(instead of a decided sum) 3s. a thousand on what the
machine makes. Now, I could mention a gentleman
in East Lothian, who has - them made by hand for
3s. 10d.! Only tenpence of difference thus between
the machine and the hand as regards cost ! Not to
speak of the expenses of steam-engines to drive this
machine and the machine itself, most people, it is well-
known, will sacrifice time and trouble (but the trouble
of the Marquis's machine is much greater than the
hand, and more men and boys required, too, than what
is stated in the paragraph alluded to) to the all-impor-
tant point of current cost and " original cost."
These are the facts deduced from experience, let
theoretical and hearsay statements be trusted by who
may.
There is no stronger advocate for the employing
of machinery to do what is now done by the hand
than I happen to be, but I am not foolish enough to
consider any machine " a great advantage" before it
can be clearly shown that it saves not only time and
trouble, but actual outlay, whether primary, secondary,
or current. There are many better tile machines than
the one the Marquis of Tweeddale takes the credit of,
were they put in practice.
I am, Sir, your's, respectfully,
A MECHANICAL PRACTICAL MAN.
London, June 6,1839.

least mark or appearance upon either of them. Robinson
gave no reason why the coat and shirt. were at his mother's
house. Witness afterwards went to Robinson's own
lodgings, No. 27, Crown-street. He closely examined
the room, and the drawers and boxes in it, but not the least
mark of a suspicious kind could be found.
The statement made by Robinson was read by the Co-
roner. He stated that on Monday evening up to eleven
o'clock he was in John-street, and that when he passed de-
ceased's house he saw smoke issue out of the passage.
George Paul, the next witness, who was passing
Prince's-street at the time, stated he heard a call for the
police, and entered the house, and having assisted in ex-
tinguishing the fire, he saw the body lying on the floor.
The old woman said she knew her husband was murdered,
because she heard him groan.
William Stevenson, 39, Vauxhall-road, said that he had
a statement to make as he had been called in question.
On Tuesday week he saw deceased several times. He
called at his shop to pay an account, when some conversa-
tion took place respecting a key of the deceased's front
door, which bad been in his possession since the time he
and his wife lodged with the deceased. The key was now
in his possession. Witness and his wife were now living
apart in consequence of some quarrel. Two young men
called at deceased's to see witness's sister—to pay their
addresses to her. She lived with a man named Daniels, a
clerk to one of the Railway Companies. Daniels was one
of the persons who called to see him. The other- person
was named Smith, and lived in the Hampstead-road, but
he could not exactly say where.
This witness was closely questioned by the Jury, but
nothing that threw any further light on the affair was
elicited.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE.
(LLOYD'S.)

Sarah Stevenson, wife of the last witness, said she was
not aware until last Saturday that the key of the deceased's
house had not been returned to him. Her husband took
away the furniture when they left Mr. Westwood's, Wit-
ness only had a few knives and clothes. She never had
the key to any room. The key was found in the basket
containing the knives. She is now living with her mother.
This witness was also very closely questioned by the
Jury, respecting the sister and the gentleman who called
to see her at deceased's house.
After some evidence of no importance from the mother
of the last witness and James Poore, of Wardour-street,
The CORONER said that the lock had been taken off and
examined by a locksmith, and that be said it had not beenpicked, but had been opened by the proper key.
Charles L. Le Roche said, no persons who were present
at the fire could have committed the robbery. The shop
was locked, and if the property had been taken at the fire,
the shop would have been in confusion. As it was, how-
ever, everything was in order, and there was no appear-
ance of any robbery having been committed. Tho amount
of property stolen would be, on a rough guess, 2,0001.
The property must have been taken by some one well
acquainted with the value, All the best watches had
been taken out of the trays. In the last tray three
of the best watches were left, so that it would appear
that when the robber reached that tray he bad been
interrupted. About three weeks .ago there was a aus-
picious-looking person hanging about the shop. When
watches are stolen, the usual plan is to erase the name, and
send them to Holland, where they -can be readily disposed
of, Witness had no doubt that the robbery was committed
by some person connected with the trade. No person had
been in the habit of visiting Mr. Westwood's servant. The
robber could not have passed through the shop-door; he
must have entered through the rooms and passages through
the house. There several entries into the little room ad-
joining the shop. Any person could easily have entered
the house by means of a false key, when the servant went
in the-evening for beer-; and he might, without difficulty,
have concealed himself. The strong-box could not be
o,ened; it had a secret spring. Mr. Westwood did not
like the appearance of Mrs. Stevenson and her sister ; they
came in lute at night, and had many followers.
Mr. Peake, coach builder, Lisle-street, said that on
Tuesday morning last, about half-past twelve, be was
roused out of Vis bed by a policeman calling " Get up and
come down immediately—Mr. Westwood is murdered."
Wi:npss immediately got up and went down to Mr. Wcst.
wood's. He has been a friend of the family thirty-five
years. When he went into the house, he saw Mr. West-
wood "lying on the floor. He saw the middle shop door
open, and the key in it. He locked the door and put the
key into his pocket. A key was in the desk in the parlour
—he locked it. He first thought that no property had
been stolen. He went up stairs to console his old friend
Mrs. Westwood. He found her in a most lamentable, si-
tuation. Another friend of the family came to the house
in the evening, and he and witness esamined the shop.
They found the watches missing ; he believes there were
87, besides other property. The key of the shop was now
in his possession. The foreman ascertained the watches
which were missing from his books. He has not the
slightest suspicion of any person. He met Mr. Westwood
on Friday. Mr. Westwood appeared to place implicit
confidence in Le Reche.
Mr. Markham Brown, Hinde-street, Manchester-square,
said that on Saturday a person called to receive a bill of
21. 6a. due .to Mr. Westwood. Witness expressed his
surprise that Mr. Westwood had not sent in the bill
before. He then said that Mr. Westwood had a gold
watch to repair, and that if he would send it home or.
Monday morning, between ten and eleven, he would pay
the bill. He thinks, to the best 'of his belief, that
Le Roche, the foreman, is the man who called upon him,
but cannot swear positively. When witness mentioned the
gold watch, the person who called seemed surprised and
embarrassed, but did not call again on Monday.
swearson who challed certainty. to re
Mr. Brown's two clerks were then called, and said that
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One of the clerks knows Le Reche's brother, who is clerk
to a solicitor. It certainly was not he who called.
M. Gerard, the French gentleman lodging in the house
of the deceased, said that on Monday night he came home
about eleven o'clock. He went to bed. About twelve
o'clock Mrs. Westwood came into his room and requested
lihe to go down stairs. He did so, and found the smoke
eery strong'. When he entered the house the servant put
up the chain on the street-door.
George Gattergood, 6, Meard's- street, Dean-street,
Soho, bricklayer, said that between nine and tea o'clock on
Tuesday morning, he went into a public-house at the cor-
ner of Rupert-sLreet. Whilst he was there a female came
in for iOlllO gin, and said that she %Lis the servant of Mr.
Westwood. She said that on the night before she was at
the house twice.
Adjourned until two o'clock. When the jury again met
Mr. Le Reche, brother to the deceased's foreman, said
that he had been authorised by the deceased to collect for
him a number of bad debts, and he had called upon Mr.
Brown, the solicitor, of 1111de-street, for the sum of 21.65.
due to the deceased.
The CORONER said it was satisfactory that the identity-
of the person who had called upon Mr. Brown had been
fully proved.
The Court was cleared of strangers, and after the lapse
of, twenty minutes;the Jury returned a verdict of " Wilful
Murder against some person or persons unknown," with
the addition that the Coroner should write to the Secre-
tary of State for the Home Department, requesting his
Lordship to offer a reward for the apprehension of the per-
etrators of the horrid deed.

VESSELS SPOKEN WITH.-The Mary, of Liverpool, from
Canton, March 24, in lat. 55 S., long 22 E. ; De Jar-
ham, from Batavia to Hamburg, with loss of topmasts, &c.,
12th ult. in lat. 34, long. 38 ; Republic, from Bremen to
New York, 29th, in lat. 50, long. 13 ; an American liner,
private signal U, 3d inst. ; Helen, from Pernambuco to
Hamburg, 2d inst., by the Persian, Sparkes. arrived off
Dartmouth. Albion, of London, April 11, off Cape St.
Angelo, by the Isabella, Thompson, arrived off Falmouth.
Dunmore, from Calcutta to Liverpool ; Bencoolen, from
Penang to Cork, 4th ult„ in lat. 33, long. 43, by the
Brazilian, White, arrived off Falmouth. Mary Jones,
Fishley, of Liverpool, for St. Thomas, 30th ult., in lat.
51, long. 8; Columbine, of St. John's, New Brunswick,
to Liverpool, 23d ult.' in lat. 53, long. 16, by the Talley-
rand, Webb, arrived off Liverpool. Ruby, from Calcutta
to London, March 16, in lat. 31 S., long. 40 N. ; British
Monarch, from Mauritius to London, 22d, in lat. 33,
long. 32 ; Adelaide, from Calcutta to London, 26th, in
lat. 35, long. 22 ; Lord Cochrane, April 14; in Ascension
Roads ; Vigilant, from London to Timor, 17th, in lat.
1, long. 19 ; Anna, from Amsterdam to Batavia, 18th,
in lat. 1, long. 18 ; Eclipse packet, from Barbabocs
to London, 21st ult., in lat. 44, long. 20, by the
Scotia, Campbell, arrived off Portsmouth. Jane and
Eliza, the Clyde to Calcutta, March 10, lat. 28 S.,
lon. 48 E. ; Adelaide, 18th April, lat. 11 S., lon. 12 W. ;
Zephyr, Cherbourg, to Miramichi, 3d inst., by the Duke
of Argyle, Aird, off Portsmouth ; Prospect, Buulogne to
Quebec, lat. 49, lon. 13; Jahannah, Newfoundland to
Bremen, 25th ult., lat. 49, lon. 11 ; Johan, George,
Bremen to Philadelphia, 3d inst., off Leith, by the Emma,
Nash, arrived at Plymouth ; Burlington, Batavia to Ant-
werp, 20th ult., out 80 days; Mersey, of Liverpool, Cal-
cutta, about the same time, out 106 days ; Holland, Ba-
tavia to Amsterdam, 28th, lat. 49, lon. 15 ; Emma,
London to Quebec, 29th, lat. 49, lon. 14 ; Ambas-
sador, Mauritius to London ; Indus, Canton to
London ; Fama, Gottenburg to Boston, 31st, lat 49.
long. 13 ; Jane, Lockhart, and West Indian, St. Vin-
cents to London, tat inst., lat. 49, long. 11, by the Scotia,
Campbell, arrived off Portsmouth ; Anna, Port-au-Prince
to Bremen, ltlth ult., lat 50, long. 11 ; Michigan, New
Orleans to Liverpool, 24th ult., lat. 48, long. 16; Jean
Key, Charleston to Antwerp, 2d inst., ht 53, long. 11, by
the Flcrentia, Goodwin, arrived off Falmouth ; Maria,
Rothsay, bound to Sydney, 10th April, lit. 10, long. 19.
W.; Minerva, of Alloa, Bth ult., lat. 37, long. 40; Bri-
tannia, St. John's, N. 8., to Quebec, 12th ult., lat. 44,
long. 38, by the- Elizabeth, arrived in the Downs; Nile,
Anderson, Manilla to London, 30th May, lat. 46, long. 17.

ARMING OF THE RICH AGAINST

THE POOR.

TO THE EARL OF DERBY, LORD.-LIEUTENANT OF THE COUNTY
PALATINE OF. LANCASTER, &C. &C.
MT LORD—I am instructed to apply to your Lordship, as
Lord Lieutenant of the County of Lancaster, on behalf of
the Salford Radical Association, for a proper supply of
necessary arms for the protection of life and property, as
recommended by Lord John Russell, in vari •us circulars
addressed to the Lords Lieutenant of the counties. I have
taken care to ascertain with accuracy the precise number
of members in the Association able to bear arms, with their
names and residences"' I beg respectfully to request that
your Lordship will have the kindness to send arms for the
use of 1,200 members of the Association. All of them
may be safely trusted with their use.
I am, your Lordship's obedient servant,
JABEZ BARROWCLOUGH, Hon. Sec.
Radical Association Rooms, Salford, May 18, 1839.

COPY OF HIS LORDSHIP'S REPLY.

PRESCOT, MAT 16, 1839.

SIR-I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt, by
this day's post, of a letter signed with your name, and re-
quiring me, as Lord Lieutenant of the County, to send
arms for the use of 1,200 members of an association called
the Salford Radical Association, to which the writer of the
letter states himself to be Honorary Secretary. In reply to
this demand, I desire to observe that I have no such
arms to send, nor any power to send them, if they
were in my possession, and I must also add that, if
they were at my immediate disposal I could not feel
myself at liberty, cr authorised by any of the cir-
cular letters from the Home-office to • which allusion
has been made, to deliver them up upon any such re-
quisition as that now made to me by a person wholly un-
known to me either personally or by character, arid on
behalf of a body formed, I know not when or by what
authority, or for what object, and of which I was not
aware of its existence until the present application was
made ; I shall, however, think it my duty to lay the appli-
cation before the Secretary of State for the 'lonic Depart-
ment, together with my reason as above fur thus disagree-
ing to the request, as I am perfectly convinced that his
Lordship's recent letters have been most completely mis-
understood by the parties; and his Lordship will then form
his own resolution upon the subject.
I have the honour to be, Sir,
Your obedient, humble servant,
DERBY.
To Jabez Barrowelough, Esq., Salford.

THE SUN. LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE 8, 1539.

FROM LAST NIGHT'S GAZETTE.

CROWN-OFFICE, JUNE. 6, 1839.
MEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT

PARLIAMENT.
Gity of Edinburgh—Thomas Babington Macaulay, Esq., of
Clarges-street, London, in the room of the Right Honourable
James Abercromby, now Baron Dunfermline.