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-1141?,LIAMENT.

. HOUSE- OF PEERS:
DI Cllti'i7AY, M 'AY 12.

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Mr..Cotirington, Mr. Grah"ain, And-several other
,Metuberi. of the lionse of coif) inons-, lirought up
four PriVate Bills ; which were read a first time.
The Duke of Norrom reported from the COM-

mittee, appointed Ibr thdt purpose, several Regula.
tious proposed to be adopted respeaing the admission
ofEersons into the High Omit of Parliament; which
were agreed to. -
Mr. Irving, Inspetior General of Imports and Ex-
ports, presented several Accounts relative to the
slave Trade; which were ordered to lie on 'the Table.
LORD NELSON.

Lord GRENVILLE presented a, Message from His,
• Majesty respecting :making a provision for Earl Nel-,
son, and the future Pbssessors of
,the Title -=(Vide
our Report of the 'House of Comm Ons.)
Lord. GR.SN fILLE observed, that -there could
be nb clift'erence of 'opirijki 'upon this stibjea. ; but
in. conforinity with the usual .pra'atee of the House,,
he would now merely
,move, that His .?Majesty's
• 1110.5tgracious. Message' be taken into consideration*
• to-morrow.-Ordered. • -
jURISPROpENctpF,SOTLANti.•
Lord GRENVILLE called
,the attention of the-
. Tfonse to'an inip9rtantsubjea,'.which stood for this
. day.; he alluded to the notice which be had -giyen bf
its attention to A-aive;cet'taiD ResOlutiensi r_esPeOing
tbe 'Ever),-,-p.ossilile,dili-
gence.ta'tieen'ived, but ttie' bthin-ess was' not *yet
` ill -that state.9f foilwardness'whieh could enable him.
submit;,A.he t- A reStliD the..-}Tougo... 'ft 'was.2lso
_bighiy`clesirablethat previous; to:bringing forward
any propositions .cm.the Subjea, they :.should be in-
vestigated :by those:learned' persons: who were the
beSt.qualified to give an' opirtion upon,them. He
- slould therefore:propose to discharge the order for
summoning their Lords hips, and ',renew it _for: Fri-
_ the 6th.of June, 'with an understanding that
the subje& should- certainly be brought -forward on
that day. It was his intention thenlo submit cer-
tain Resolutions, which it might probably be epe-
. client for .the House tatake two or three days to
consider of before .they came. to any deternaination
upon then-i, 'and-early in the subsequent Session, he
proposed.to found a Bill upon them, if they met with
their Lordships' concurrence: , • •
The order NA/4s' discharged, and renewed for Fri-,
clay the,6th of June. .
TRADE,BETWEEN m 5 WEST INDIES AND
AMERICA.

The ,Report of the. West. Indian and American
Trade was -read, and the Amendments agreed
to.

. .
Lord HAIPKESEr.IRY -said, he would not take
up their Lordships' time .by• 'repeating his former
arguments against the Bill ;. but whether he was
right or not in' his, opinion, or whether the Peti,
tioners against the Bill were correet or not in their
• statements, it was clear that the subjea demanded
very serious investigation. He was aware, that
from the multiplicity of business now before Par=
liatnent, and the advanced state of the Session, that:
investigation could not now take place. He thought,
however,, that' an opening should be left for such
discussion before they acknowledged such a prin-
ciple as that maintained by the present Bill. With
viow, tlicrclore; 116 should move to limit the
• duration of the Bill to the Ist of July,
.1807, in•or-
der that the subjea might, in the mean time, be
thoroughly discussed ; and if it should be thought
right to adopt such a principle; that it might only
be adopted after mature deliberation.
The Earl Of 'SUFFOLK defended the principle of
the Bill.
Lord SHEFFIELD said, that notwithStanding he
obje6ted to the prineiple and every part of the Inca-
' sure, he should agree to the Amendment, if it would
give the. Petitioners an opportunity of being heafd,
and of shelving how their concerns had been Misre-
presented by the supporters of the Bill. Noble
Lords had ventured to say, that. Ship-buildihg.flou-
.rishes even, beyond what-if had done at 'any former
period, and that the' increase of fOreign
our• trade did not keep pace with the increase in our
own Shipping. •His Lordship, then read an Account,'
which stated' the'extraordipary increase of foreign,
• and decrease of British Shipping, and..stated, that
since December, 1802, to the present period, there •
have been bunt in the River for the Mer-
chsnts •Service,' otily two 'Ships, -and there are, for
the same Service, only. twO 'pow building,. He had

always serious apprehensions respecaing the loOse
opinions which. Were so often delivered on these sub-.
jeas ; but his al9rth became -eXtrerrie since 'he
. • heard a Noble Lord, distinguished for his great abi-
lities..aticl.. information; and of the,greatest
in - that House; hold a language, on a late occasion,
which appeared to him to prepare -the Country fOr
-4 relinquishment-of. the • most essential parts ;of our
Nalrigation.:, System. He hoped he had mistaken
him; but if he had, not,...J* most soleMnly declared
• that Instead of ..alludirig to the sacrifice of the
SysteM in question,' the Noble Lord had v..epared,
in consequence of the change of times and things,
to gratify Bonaparte with a, reduCtion and limitation
of our Ships of War, it would not so seriously .have
alarmed him ; because, in the last instance, the mis,
chief might perhaps have been temporary and re-
trievable; in the Other, it would be permanent and:
irretriOVable. Ile did not presume to blame any man.
for Merely entertaining such opinions; but if;without
perMitting examination or inquiry, and•contrary to
the well established opinion of the public, he should
?et oil thoe opinions, he . then should think the
Noble Lord most highly blameablL. His Lordship
then stater], tli4t Mr. Pitt,- on first coming into. Act..
ministration, had adopted opinions similar to those
pow brought forward; that he. had yielded to the
able Reports made by Lord Liverpool ; and that,
finding from experience the -mischievous efieas of
relaxation of the Navigation Laws during the
late War he•very wisely, especially during the two
•
last years, began to limit those relaxations: • But
the measure now,before their Lordships seems in-
tended to reverse every thing that was doing -4 the
time of his death.
Lard 4UCKLAND defended the statements he.
had on a former occasion made to the House re-
spe6tlng the 'state of our Shipping, which, he con-,
tended, were,correCL He objected to the proposed
Amendment, .bemuse,. from the shortness'Of the
time, it would materially 'interfere with that certain-
ty which Merchants 04014 44ve of being allqwo

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to sell ,tl4ri6odsibefore they .einbillted In 5116 g
trade; -

- The Pulte.-.:of ZIONTfI.OSE thought that the
. ,
Amendment Otio'ht to be adopted in order to .give
•0 • . • .
tiriae
for the consideration of-so i'mPortant a 'sUbjeEt.
He strongly objeded to 'the making Such a Bill at
Once, a pertnanentnieasure. -
Lord SItEFFIELD explained.
The Earl of BUCIUNGII./131SIPRE denl(A that
this could be considered:a- permanent 'Measure, its
duration being litnited to,the continuance':of the
War, and until. six Months after. the.conclusion of a
definitiOe Treaty of Peace. The iiecesity Of some-
such measure during War had, he , thought, been
agre,ed On-all-hands J. and it was.rendered the more
necessary now, as, from the observations which had
been made respeEting :the dondnei of the Governors
of our West India.lslands, if a measure like-the pre-
sent was not passed, they would be doubtful as to
what mode of conduEt they Ought.to pursue.
- The Earl Of-CIERNARVON also. supported the Bill.
The proposed Amendment Was negatived.
Previous to the discussion -Lord MULGRAVC pre-
sented • a -Petition from the Ship-Owners of Scar-
borough against the Bill; whch•waSordered to lie on
the Table..

The. Bill was ordered to be engressed.
mst)LvENT DEBTORS.

Lord HOLLAND said a few words in a low tone of
voice, and concluded by. moving to postpone the
Committee on the.lnsolvent Debt9rs' Bill to, Wed-
nesday, and that. the Lords be summoned 'for that
day.—Ordered. •
Pet ition s 'were presented against the Bill _by the
Earl of RomNEy, and in favour of it by Lord ifoL-
-4:;isp;--.A.djourned,oll to-rriorrow. (this day).*

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

'MONDAY, MAY 12'.

Mr. MARTIN took the oaths and his seat for the
Borough of Kinsale.

--11/11:7CoRRy postponed. his Motion for Papers re-
speeting .the•lrish Revenue, till Thursday. -
%Mr. MATTHEWS, pursuant to notice, moved- for
• leave to bring' in a Bill to amend the Aei of the 13th
of the King, for the Regulation of Turnpikes, as far as
related:to the Penalties imposed. upon .Wagglons of a
certain description. —Leave given. _
Mr..Messenx, frOm the India Board, presented the
Papers ordered by the Houses, relative to the sums ad-
vanced to the Guicowar.—Ordered' to lie ,on the
Table. . •

Sir C. PRICE; 'with a view: to lay several itn-
portant fags before the House, moved; pursuant to
notice,-for an Accorint of the Number 'and Tonnage
of British Ships built from the year 1790 to theyear
.1864, distinguishing the Ports at which they were
`built-4-of the Number= andjonnage 'of Prize Ships
between the same period,--of the Number- and Ton-
nage -Of British Ships briilt in 18054---and of- the
Number and Tonnage Of Prize Ships made free and
registered from- the. ath January, 'lBO5, to the sth
of January,,, i 806—Ordered. „
The,SEeIIETARY AT WAR brought in the Mutiny
Bill.—Read a first, and ordered to be read a second
time to-morrow.. ' - .

Mr. PARNELL brought in.the Bank of IreUnd De-
benture Interest Bill.—Read a Ist and ordered to
be read a 2d time to-morrow.
On the Motion of Mr. FOSTER the 2,d reading, of
the Irish Linen Drawback Bill was postponed from
Thursday net to Thursday se'nnight.
The Irish Loan and Exchequer Bills: Bill were
read a 2d time, and Ordered to be committed to-
morrow.

The Report of the Irish Butter Bill was ordered to
be further considered to-morrow.

INDIA;

Sir.A. WELLESLEY rose to Move for Papers rela-
tive to the Charge• against Lord Wellesley.
These consisted of Extra&s df.various Letters
from the Court.ofDireCtors,'atid froin different De-
partments in 'lndia, approving of the- Regulations of
Marquis Wellesley, relative to the Customs and Du-
ties on Liq.uors, the Post Office, 'and the improve-
ment of. the Police, with the Replies to them also
of an Account of the Revenue of Oude since the
Treaty of Lueknow, &c. &c.--Ordered to be pro-
duced..

On the Motion of Lord, TEMPLE, the Bill-for
rectifying certain. Mistakes relative to. the Execu-
tion of the Land Tax A&, was read a second
time, and ordered to be committed• on this day
se'nnight. , •
The Franking Bill was read a second time, and
ordered.tob committed to-morrow.

:The Report of the Tortola Free Port Bill was or-
dered to'be further considered on Thursday.

Mr. WZ,Ir. SMITH -wiShed to. refer the Petition of
MeSsrs. Chalmers and Cowie .to the Committee of
Supply;lle would state the case now, were it not,
that heunderStood•there,was to be a Motion for post-
poning. this business.- '
Mr-. HusxissoN said, the 'sum was 35,0001. and
that the late. Treasury Board had examined the shb-
ke,c, and did not 'feel themselves warraoed.to ',grant,
such compensation.. The Paper which .he ;moved
for:on this subjea was Only delivered in the morn-
ing, arid he wished that the House should have time
to consider the reasons there stated:

Mr. S:i4ITH said, that-this affairdiad already been
postponed three times, and that the Paper iii ques-
tion did not contain more than.a dozen lines. The
late Treasury Board hhcl consented to refer'the mat-
ter to 4 Committee of the HoUse, but • nothing-was
done- that Session. A Committee had been ap-
pointed this Session,' and had made 'a Report on the
subject. Unless, then, it was tbr..the convenience
of his Noble Friend near. him (Lord'. H. Petty) he
saw no reason for putting off his Motion.
Mr. LONG observed, that the shortness of the Pa-
per. made no great difference, since it was the prin-
ciple that was to be considered. As to the late Trea-
sury Board having consented to refer the matter to a
Committee, they had not given any pledge to be
bound by its opinion. .•
.Mr. STURGES BOURNE hoped, that, as the at-
tention of the House had not been turned to the
subje&, the Noble Lord would not press. the mat-
ter now.

Lord HENRY PETTY deprecated delays in such.,
cases as "the present, as they were, attended with
great inconvenience.. • He wished, however, that the
matter might be'deferred till Wednesday;
Mr. ROSE adverted to the importance of the sub-
je6t, and the-danger of the precedent, and urged this
as a ground for poitpcning the .Pilotion.