The Sun.
London, England, 1863-10-06 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 6, 1863.

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The 7 lational Social Science Association.

(From the Scotsman.)
Among distinguished strangers who have already
arrived in town to attend the meetings of the asso-
ciation may be named—the Hon. Judge Longfield,
President of the Department of Trade and Interna-
tional Law ; and Mr. Thomas Hare, Secretary of the
Charity Commission. In all the departments papers
will be read of great interest, some of which are
expected to lead to important discussions. In the
department of Trade and International Law, sub-
jects of great national importance at the present
time will be discussed. The question of Interna-
tional Law as to blockade will be under considera-
tion in that department, and it is anticipated that
some interesting information will be given as to the
number of ships which have run the blockade in
America. Mr. Westlake, the Foreign Secretary of
the Association, whose opinion on the law of blockade
is entitled to great weight, will in all probability
lay a resolution on the subject before the Depart-
ment of Trade and International Law. It is also
expected that a resolution will be proposed on the
question of allowing neutral Powers to build ships
for or to sell them to a belligerent. Mr. William
Forsyth, Q.C., will be added to the list of vice-pre-
sidents in the Department of Tradeand International
Law; and on account of the pressure of business to
come before the department there will be a snb;se
tion appointed, at the request of a number of
ie
ship-
owners in Liverpool and other towns, t° coinss—a
the question of the best mode of valuing ships--a
subject of importance to all engaged in the . shipping
great
trade, as it appears that at present there
difficulty in getting ships properly valued.laich the On Thursday, the first day
depart-
ments meet, the leading
ent will be chiefly
busintemosns will be as follows :
—The Jurisprudence D
occupied with Department
on " The
papers an
De-
fects of the present system of Statutory Legislation,"
and " The La's of Evideece in Civil and Criminal
the Education Department (which
meets in the Assembly Ha
Causes." InHall),
he papers onuniver-
sityt education
will first be taken up, in which the
propriety of
morning and evening classes at the
will be discussed. Working men's
universities
colleges will also engage the attention of the de-
partment.ln the third department, criminal statis-
tics
and criminal legislation will form the subject
of the leading papers. In the fourth department
professor Christison will read a paper on the
Changes that have occurred in the Type of Disease
in Edinburgh during the last 50 years, and papers
will also be read on Disease in Cattle. The fifth
department will be occupied all day with papers on
Emigration. The sixth department will be chiefly
occupied with papers on Direct and Indirect Taxa-
tion.

On Friday the business will be as foll3wa :—ln
the Jurisprudence Department, Civil Procedure in
Scotland, and the Bankruptcy Law of Scotland,
-will form the subjects of discussion. In the Edu-
cational Department the entire day will be devoted
to papers and discussions on Notional Education,
and the Assembly Hall will no doubt be well
attended during the whole day. Among the papers
read will be the following :—Professor Milligan on
the Parish Schools of Scotland; Rev. Dr. Bell,
M.D., on the Revised Code ; the Rev. A. Fraser,
" On the Present State of Elementary Education
in Scotland, with suggestions as to a commission of
Inquiry." The third department will de occupied
all thy with the kindred subjects of ragged schools
and reformatories, and among the papers will be one
by Dr. Buchanan "On the Advantages of Ragged
Schools,'' end another by the Rev. Dr. Robert Lee
"On the Advantages of Reformatories." In the
fourth department a paper "On the Recent Sani-
tary 'Works," from Mee Nightingale, will be read,
and Provost Lindsay will read a paper " On the
Police Improvement Ad: of Scotland." The subjects
of the drainage of towns and unhealthy houses will
also be brought under coisideration. In the fifth
department (Social Econony) nearly all the papers
will refer to charity and relief of the poor, one of
them being "On the lancashire Cotton Dis-
trict," by Mr. Edmund Patter, M.P. In the
:sixth department there will to read papers en the
Patent Question, on a Uniform System of Weights,
_Measures, and Coins, and on Deeimal Notators.
On Saturday the Jurisprudence Department will
consider papers on the Torrens Syiiem of Convey-
ancing, and on the Extension of the Landed Estates
Court to Scotland. In the second department In-
dustrial Education will occupy the entire day, there
being four papers on that subject. In the third
department tiA o papers will be read or, the Convict
Syetem, one by the Right Hon. C. Addetley, M.P.,
on the "Reports on Penal Servitude and Prison
Discipline," and another by Mr. John Hill Burton,
on the Evidence at the Penal Servitude Act Com-
mission, not printed with the report. In the fourth
department there will he among other papers two
on Colonial Schools and Hospitals by Miss Night-
ingale. In the fifth department there will 4e five
papers on Co -operation, two on Apprenticesb gm, and
one on Trades' Societies. The sixth department
will be occupied all day with papers on Scotch
Trades.

On Monday the I '
the urisprudence Department
hear papers on will
the United Banking and Currency Laws of
Register of Kingdom, and on
subjectsentures.
a proposed public
Railway Deb
th of breach of contract
be discussions on the There will also
by workmen, facilities for
ac-
quiring house
property in largee working
classes
t consumers for the
towns, and small
debt actions by retailers again
price of necessaries. On thelast-named subject
Sheriff Hallard, of Edinburgh, will read a paper.
The Education Department will be occupied
wietrh.
papers on the two important topics of middle class
education and the state of foreign education.
e the whole Theday
third department will again devote
to papers on the convict system.
eith, ta o n
dsanitary
x e w.
The fourth de-
partment will take up papers relating
arrangements in Edinburgh, L
New-
haven. The fifth department will take up
all the day with papers and discussions
on important subjects relating to the con-
dition of the working classes, such as the dwellings
of the working classes in large towns, hinds'
houses, Scottish agricultural labourers' rural cot-
tages, Post-office savings banks, yearly societies,
and the early closing movement, Dr. Begg having
a paper to read on the last-named subject. The
sixth department will hear three papers " On In.
ternational Law," the discussions on which will
occupy the entire day.
Among the papers will be
one by Dr. D. Chalmers, " On the Capture during
War of Private Property at Sea."
On Tuesday the Jurisprudence Department will
take up papers 4, Oa the Marriage Laws and the
Lunacy Laws" as affecting the medical profession.
'the Educational Department will be occupied
with
hearing a variety of miscellaneous papers, including
papers no Sabbath Schools, Music Schools,
eec. The
third department will take up Papers relating to the
in Scotland
causes and prevention of crime,the licensing system
among the „b-
-and the traffic in strop; drink being
the
say will read
Oleets of papers. Provost Lind-
The Granting of Cer-
tificates for T , Ile paper on " . Scotland.
The fourth
heedenaes
n up with the
to Public-houses in .
reading of a number
will be take b
jects, including
the Being aOn the Influence of Smoking on
fifth ,' by Mr, Thos. Reynolds. The
department will be y
papers on the
said. be
em to 0
department all day with
papers
will
of women. In the sixth
Fisheries, the Irish read on the British
finance of life
assurance. n fisheries, and the prac-
tical The arrangements
for nes Wed d ..,_ , a
the meeting, will depend, to a ay, Lae last day of
the manner in which thebusinB2
e large extent, upon
in the various de-
partments is overtaken on the
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THE UN IVERSITY CON VERSAZIOPNLvious days.
SCIENCE ASSOCIATION.
THE SOCIAL
We understand that great exertionse are being
made by the professors to make the onversazioue
oniThtirsday evening next one of the most brilliant
and original things of the kind ever Been
in Edinburgh. The noble library, 190 feet long,
the eastern hall, staircase, and reading-room are to,
he illuminated with gas. The different recesses are
to contain selections from the various museums and
collections of the institution, so as to illustrate the
science and arts taught within its walls. The
Photographic Society of Scotland will present the
chemical specimens of photography. Modern gal-

vano electricity will be applied to new practical
results ; and the rare manuscripts of the library
will be displayed by the librarian. It is anticipated
that the reunion will constitute an exhibition of the
sciences by the professors, calculated alike to in%
struct, please the public, and interest the learned.

up a little, and
running gas
mount, and attached it to the car, it was at its
height. Then "Le Geant" soared
enough" blundered
wasd o
twh no
verdict;
among
with a box in his hand, was seen "scouring the
e opl e. "Not
plain." They were waiting for a forgotten parcel.
butthe soon P
a man,
What P Well ; perhaps a pate. "Now it mounts!
Tiens! c'est joli!" But down it comes again, and
the crowd begins to doubt. At five o'clock, as the
military bands are playing " Malbrook s'en va," M.
Nader and his eleven friends rise and float away
from Paris on a strong south-westerly breeze, which
seemed to get more westerly us they rose. They
expect to be in the upper air in a few hours, and to
stay there four days! They have circulars printed
in German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, and
Dutch, which they mean to scatter to the winds,
and which they hope will be sent to the telegraph
offices, and keep their route before the public. I
must not omit to tell you that an English advertis-
ing tradesman has been in treaty with M. Nadar
for a contract for the scattering to the winds some
millions of handbills. M. Nader was interrupted
when telling me the story, so I am unable to say if
they came to terms.

I must add, in conclusion, that this event has
created the most extraordinary sensation. There
could not have been less than half a million ofspec-
tators. The streets were more densely crowded
than on the night of the Fete Napoleon, and M.
Nadar and his balloon were "household words"
throughout Paris. The day was cloudy, with a
good deal of wind and a cold air, which I should
think has found out our balloonatices before this
time.

Galignani's Messenger says :—" At the moment
of going to press a communication has reached us,
signed by the captain, M. Nadar, and all those who
had taken places in the balloon, stating that on
alighting yesterday evening at 9 o'clock, at Barcy,
near Meaux (Seine-et-Marne), three severe shocks
were experienced which had the effect of com-
pletely capsizing the balloon and inflicting on its
occupants several rather severe contusions."

The State of Bethnal-Green.—Alleged

Defamation on the Parish.

Last night, at the weekly meeting of the board
of guardians of the parish of Bethnal-green, in the
board-room, Waterloo-road, Victoria Park, the fol-
lowing proceedings took place with reference to the

recent disclosures as to the state of the district

Mr. Collins occupied the chair.
Mr. COLLINS (addressing Dr. Moore, who had
given evidence on the inquest)—Dr. Moore, Mrs.
Ward, the mother of the child on whom the inquest
was held in Hollybush•place, complains that though

you attended her child nine days you refused to
give a :certificate of death. The board wishes to
know why you refused.
Dr. MOORE—Because I was not satisfied as to
the cause of death, and I wished to have an inves-
tigation into the case.
Mr. COLLINS asked what was the first entry in
the book as to the illness of the child.

Dr. MOORE said dentition with regard to the
youngest child, and there was debility in the case
of the other child. But children did not usually die
of teething. That child died from the impure
atmosphere. There was no specific disease. He
never asked the coroner's officer to get up the case.
He went to the coroner and told him the facts. The
coroner said that if the cause of death was not
clear
a post-mortem examination should be made.
Mr. COLLINS—WouId it not have been more
satisfactory if you had had another medical man
with you upon the post-mortem examination ? The
I verdict of the jury was
given on your unsupported
testimony and without the jury visiting the pre-
mises for themselves.

Dr. MOORE—I would have wished to
get one,
but I was qualified to make the plat martern exami-
nation myself. But I had no time to get a doctor
—the body was decomposing.
Mr. COLLINS—Don't tell the board that, doctor.
You had time to run about to the Fountain Tavern
and to the London Hospital after the coroner.
Dr. MooRE said he was always glad to
have
assistance, but he was not bound to get it.
The report of the doctor's evidence before the
coroner was read ; and Dr. Moore said that there
were some verbal inaccuracies—it was principally

correct.
Dr. MOORE said that ho had attended the
children
of Butterfield and the Mandrells in llollybush-
place. He said before the coroner that the children
had died from similar causes as the child of the
Wards. Dr. Brotherton attended for him at times,
and he gave a certificate that the child of the But-
terfields, eleven days old, died from asphyxia' Dr.
Brotherton thought that the death was from blood-
poisoning; but he gave a certificate of asphyxia,
which was a term that involved poisoning from
impure air, &c. He (Dr. Moore) gave
a certificate
in the case of the Mandrells' children,
because there
had originally been a disease, scarlatina. Scarla-
tina was a disease that can be generated sponta-
neously by foul air, and then propagated by con-
tagion.
Mr. COLLINS—Yon stated before
the coroner
that the children died from blood-poisoning, and we
wish to show from your own certificates that they
died from other causes.
Dr. MOORS said that he believed that all the
children had been affected by the same influence,
bat he was clear that the children died from poisons
from the foul atmosphere.
Mr. COLLINS—Yoe have stated that you were
appointed sanitary inspector, and that owing to
your troublesome reports you
When were you appointed ?
Dr. MOORE said that he had were dismissed.
be en directed by
the board to examine and report on the state of
nuisances, &c., in the parish. and his colleague
did so, but the result was that
before Dr. Pierce
was elected to the paid office the board put forward
an advertisement expressly excluding every gentle-
man that held an appointment under the board from
the post. That was a virtual dismissal, and several
members of the board told him that the object was
to shut out all those doctors whose reports were
troublesome, and who were running about " stink
hunting" in the parish.
Several members denied that such an advertise-
ment had been published, but Dr. Moore was posi-
tive on the point.
Dr. PIERCE said that in justice to Dr. Moore he
wished to state that he had heard in 1856 that no
one who then held the position of sanitary inspector
should hold the paid appointment.
The Wards, the
Mandrells, and the Butterfields
were then called in with a view to show that the
deaths were from scarlatina, or other natural disease,
and also apparently to show that Dr. Moore had
been guilty of " neglecting
his patients," because Dr.
Brotherton, who had frequently attended in his
absence, was not his legally-
appointed deputy.
The man WARD said that Mr. Englehart, one of
the board, had come down to his room and behaved
in an impertinent and overbearing manner. He said
that the place was a beautiful one, that the view
was like Finsbury-square, and that he would not
take a lie from any one.
Mr. ENOLEHART said that he only said ho would
not be misled by any one. He was certainly sur-
prised when he looked out and saw the flowers in
gardens round about.
WARD said the nuisances were in another direc-
tion, and they were shocking. No Government in-
spector visited the place.
Mr. PEREIRA asked why he remained in the
place. If he (Mr. Pereira) found his family's lives
said
thatdid
he not
wasmove.
a shoemaker, and could
endangered he should consider it would be man-
slaughter
WARD
if a
• hed
not easily get a place.
Dr. PIERCE, medical officer of health, said that
many places were worse than
ollybush-place.
There were only 50 cows in the cowshed, not 66.
The distance from the shed to the houses was 18
yards, not 8. He had directed some
be made. Each person in H 1 0 lybush-place had 250
feet of air ; children and all.
Mr. GOODWIN, vice-chairman, complained that
the
the parish had been maligned,
and that Dr. Moore
was at the bottom of it.
Mr. AUSTIN, landlord of Holl b y ush-placo said
that misstatements had been made " about his pro-
perty. He admitted, however, that some of the
closets were not trapped; the drains Were, and be

was now repairing the place. The place was not
very clean, but it was not very bad.
After some further discussion the meeting was
adjourned.

by. He (Thorogood) went there and examined the house,

but no money was found, only some letters.
Wm. Seymour French said he lived at No. 46, Liverpool-
street, King's-cross, and was a clerk at Messrs. Smith and
Son's book stall, at the King's-cross Station, and on the
morning in question the witness Thorogood spoke to him,
and they-both went into the booking office. The detective
and the prisoner were a little distance past the first-class
waiting room in the booking office. The prisoner, when
charged with the robbery, said, " Oh,what nonsense; I was
going to read it." That book was the only one in stock.
The prisoner, when called upon for his defence, said on
the day in question while at the station, in front of the stall,
having been to the railway to see a friend off, he observed
the book called the Alpine Guide, and some time ago having
had a book of a similar description, he wished to ascertain
whether it was the same or another edition. He took the
book from the stall, and while examining it the detective
came up and seized him by the collar, charging him with
stealing the book, of which charge he was entirely innocent.
He (the prisoner) wished, if the book had been a new work,
at some future time to have purchased it. The letters which
were found on him would give him an excellent character,
and he trusted the jury would deem him a man utterly in-
capable of committing such an act.
The jury, having consulted together for a few minutes,
returned a verdict of guilty.
Mr. Poland said the jury having given their verdict, he
would state that on Nov. 12 the stall was left in the care of
a boy, Mr. French being engaged elsewhere. The prisoner
came up, and took a book off one of the shelves. He asked
the price, when the boy observed him about to place the book
in his pocket. He was asked whether he wanted to buy it.
The boy not suspecting him, owing to his being respectably
dressed, said nothing to any person.
The learned Judge then sentenced him to be imprisoned
in the House of Correction for six calendar months.
James M'Mahon, 22, labourer, was charged with unlaw-
fully and maliciously committing damage to a pane of glass,
value £l5, the property of John Thompson Gideon.
The prisoner pleaded not guilty.
James Pocock said he was a barman at the Prince Albert
Tavern, Kentish-town, in the service of the prosecutor. On
the 21st of September, in the afternoon, the prisoner came
into the shop with several other men. The prisoner was
drunk, and having been there for some short time, began
wrestling with another man, who was standing at the bar.
He (the prisoner) required some drink, but being riotous
was refused. A struggle ensued, and he was ejected from
the premises, and afterwards pushed his fist through a thick
pane of glass,
Roymon Bosley, police-constable 124 S, said he took the
prisoner into custody. He was drunk, and said nothing.
The prisoner, in his defence, said he had no intention to
break the window.
The jury immediately returned a verdict of guilty.
Mr. Payne, in passing sentence, said he was ccnstantly
in the habit of remarking as to the evils arising from intem-
perance ; and here was another instance. Here was a man
who, being drunk, goes into a house and wishes to be
served with drink, and the barman, very properly, seeing
his condition, refused him, when the prisoner gave vent to his
feelings by smashing the window. It being highly desirable
that shopkeepers should be protected from these attacks—
an act of Parliament having been framed for that special
purpose—he (Mr. Payne) trusted the sentence he was about
to pass would act both as a warning to him and to others.
The sentence of the Court was, that he be imprisoned and
kept to hard labour in the House of Correction for nine
calendar months.
Charles Roper, 19, shoemaker, was indicted for stealing a
coat, value £2, the property of James Adams.
The prosecutor is a van proprietor, and on the 30th of
August he was about leaving home for a drive. He took off
his coat and put it on a dog-cart outside the stable-door.
He went into the stable for a short time and on his return
he found that it was gone.
Mary Ann Western, of No. 10, Ogle•mews, said the pri-
soner took a coat to her and asked the value of it, and she
told him that she thought it would fetch• 10s. by daylight.
He took it away. It was the coat produced.
Alfred Hebburn, assistant to Mr. Crouch, pawnbroker, of
No. 35, Sussex street, produced a coat pawned by a female
r,n the 31st of August last.
John Bell, police•constable 101 E, proved receiving the
prisoner into custody on this charge.
The Jury found the prisoner guilty, and, when about to
be sentenced,
The prisoner said he was engaged by a cab proprietor to
work in his stable, and had been in that situation for some
time, when a policeman of the C division happened to find
him out and told his master that he had had four months'
imprisonment, upon which his master immediately dis-
charged him.
Mr. Payne said he should like that fact to be ascertained,
and told Mr. Lockyer, the prison officer, to make inquiries
as to the truth of the prisoner's statement, and also to ascer-
tain his antecedents. Having conferred with the other ma-
gistrates on the bench, his lordship said that he should
defer passing sentence until next session, when he would be
brought up for judgment.