The Sun.
London, England, 1830-09-28 00:00:00

from the fear, in the then state of Europe, of the
occupation of their country by foreigners. In the
Westminster Review for October, in an article on
De Potter's trial, there is cited a letter from Tiel-
mans to De Potter, which throws a valuable light
on this subject
" The next extract (says the Reviewer) is a consider-
able portion of a letter from Tielmans to De Potter, dated
Jan. 1, 1830, No. 20. It is interesting at this moment,
now that we understand pretty well the course events will
take, as the speculation of an able individual a few months
back. There is no prophesying in politics. The subject
chiefly turns upon a question of great moment to the Bel-
gians—whether in case of the people expressing openly
and loudly their wishes, the Government would call in the
aid of foreign Powers.
" Dare they call in the foreigner? Yes, they dare ;
and I believe, moreover, that the Prussians, on account of
their Rhine provinces ; England, on account of Ireland ;
Russia, because of its political troubles; Austria, on ac-
count of its Italian provinces; and France, from fear of
its liberal party, will consent to agree with our King in
occupying Belgium for a certain space of time by Prussian
troops. Observe, my friend, the motive of the interven-
tion. A small state, the happiest in Europe, rebels against
its Prince, turns upon him the very liberties it was enjoy-
ing, and proves that the people only want liberty to abuse
it. This is the reasoning of Charles X. when he replaced
the Martignac Administration by that of Polignac. Eng-
land maintains similar ideas, because of the troubles in
Ireland, which continue in spite of the emancipation
of the Catholics. Prussia and Austria, which have
as yet done nothing for the liberties of the people,
take the same view of the picture. The interven-
tion cannot, therefore, disturb the general peace, and it
will serve as a warning to all discontented countries.
But, it may be asked, will the French people suffer it?
Do not deceive yourself ; if the French Government wills
it, and engages itself not to yield a step, as its interest
would command it ; in one word, if the four or perhaps
the five great Powers decide in common accord, that
Belgium shall be occupied by Prussian troops, the French
people will not stir. It is impassible for a people to march
unless the Government pleases. France could only de it
after overturning its Government. Now that is not done,
or so near being done as is thought. The occupation of
Belgium may precede the dethronement of the Bourbons;
and if it precedes it, it is favourable to them, ♦ince they
in their turn may have to apply for foreign intervention,
and call the Prussians to their frontier.'

"It is curious to observe the familiarity with which
the dethronement of the Bourbons was talked about on
their borders rix months ago. It is upon their continu-
ance in France that the whole of M. Teilman's letter turns,
and their exodus has utterly changed the aspect of affairs.
The French now would not permit the Prussians to enter,
and the King of the Netherlands is compelled to settle his
own affairs. It is melancholy to find England along with
Austria and Prussia held up as the enemy of public
liberty: but who can say that it is without good cause?
They who speculate on the cause of events have said that
the existing insurrection of Belgium has arisen out of an
imitation of France:• some have called it a moral con-
tagion. The fact is, that had not the power of the Bour-
bons destroyed all hopes of assistance from them—had not
previous to their departure the certainty of foreign inter-
vention existed in the minds of the people of Belgium—
this rising for a redress of grievances would have taken
place long ago."—Morning Chronicle.

There has been a great deal said and written as to
the necessity of filling the office of Coroner by a
medical man. We abstained from entering into the
merits of the question during the late election for an
obvious reason, but left the discussion of it to our
correspondents—for a few only of whose lettere we
could find room. Having freely expressed our opi-
nion upon most questions touching the administra-
tion of the laws which have been publicly agitated
of late years, we have no desire to pass this one
over in silence. We are sure our readers who re-
collect our exertions to expose the, defects, and ensure
the improvement, of the administration of justice,
will give us credit for being free from all desire to
prefer the interests of lawyers to the advantage of
the public. But all alteration is not improvement.
A defective system had better remain untouched
than be subjected to the experiments of absurd in-
novation. It would be, according to our notions,
as preposterous to appoint a medical man to a legal
office, us to appoint a legal man to a medical situ-
ation. Medicine and law require very different
sorts of education. An excellent physician or sur-
geon would find himself as much out of his ele-
ment in summing up evidence in a Court of Law,
as a good lawyer would be in delivering lectures on
morbid anatomy in an hospital. We suspect that
the one would be as little conversant with the
rules of evidence, as the ether with the nice and
complicated arrangements of the animal machine.
It is impossible for any man, whatever natural ta-
lents he may possess, to know the rules of evidence
by intuition—on the contrary, it requires long years
of study and close attention to practice to acquire
that weed acquaintance with this branch of the
law, without which a man cannot be a lawyer, and
certainly ought not to be a Judge. It is true the
office of Coroner is not a judicial one—but still it
is the duty of the Coroner to know the distinction
between legal evidence and that which is not—to
admit the one, and exclude the other ; and this he
cannot do, any more than u surgeon who is ignorant •
of anatomical science can be a skilful and safe ope-
rator, unless he is conversant with the rules of evi-
dence. When the late Mr. Huskisson introduced
his principles of free trade, he overlooked the pre-
liminary part, which was to bind down other nations
to make that freedom of trade reciprocal. We
hope those medical men who wish to " emanci-
pate" the office of Coroner from legal trammels, will
prove that their liberality has no taint of selfishness,
by throwing open the honours and emoluments of
the medical profession to legal men. Would it not
be a splendid example of the " reciprocity system"
in professional matters, to see Lord Tenterden—
who is, by virtue of his office, chief Coroner of
the realm—writing a prescription for the King,
and Sir Henry 'Telford taking an inquisition of
blood on the body of some great man! The ad-
vantages which this sort of interchange of profes-
sioeal qualjications would produce to the depart-
ments of medicine and justice we need not expa-
tiate upon ; for every person who has the least me.
derstending can, at once, apprehend them. But if
it be necessary, for the right administration of jus-
tice on Coroners' inquests, that the officer, who has
to sum up the evidence and state the law to the
Jury, should be a medical man, how much more ne-
cessary is it that the July should be composed of
the disciples of Galen ? The Coroner can only give
his opinion as to the cause of death, whether it be
by poison or .pistol-shot, or whatever other of the
" ills that flesh is heir to," may, according to his
opinion, have performed the work of fate. But it
is the Jury who have to decide the question, and by
their decision to say whether the Coroner's opinion
is erroneous or not. If the Jury were not entitled
to have an opinion of their own, it would be super-
iluous for the Coroner to summon a Jury. And
if it be necessary to the right formation of the Co-
roner's opinion that he should be a legal num, it is
of still more importance that those who have to
csrifirm or confute that opinion by their verdict
should have taken out their diplomas before they
were summoned on the inquest. Let us look at
this subject in another point of view ; and if, from
what we have already stated, it appears ridiculous
that the Coroner should be mi medical Mae
insteud of a lawyer, the cause of ridicule will
not be diminished. The " verdict" of 'the Jury,
or, as it is properly called, the " '
must be drawn op, in all cases where it charges a
criminal offence against any person, with great tech-
Meel accuracy and legal precision. it is in the nature
of a bill of indictment, upon which the person accused
can be arraigned without the intervention of a Grand
July, and whether the crime be murder or manslaugh-
ter, it must be set forth with all the legal accuracy of a
bill of indictment, and therefore must be drawn up
by a technical lawyer, or else it will be found on the
day of trial that it will he quashed for some infor-
mality, and all the labours of the Jury—all the
fruits of the inquest thrown away I This frequently
happens at present, not from Coroners being lawyers,
but their not being lawyers ; for though they are
nominally legal men, they are but too often ignorant
of the law. Instead of being able to dispense with
legal men as Coroners, we say that, to prevent the
office front being nugatory, as fur as it concerns in-

quisitions of blood, it should be always filled by a
sound lawyer, and also one well acquainted with
technical forms. We say a sound as well as a tech-
nical lawyer, because it frequently requires great
knowledge of the principles of criminal law and nice
legal discrimination to draw the distinction between
cases of murder and aggravated manslaughter. What
medical man can do this ? The inquiry of the
Coroner, with the verdict, constitute but an initia-
tive proceeding of justice. If it be necessary, in
order to put a party on his trial, that the Coroner
who sums up the evidence to the Jury and instructs
them in the law should be a medical man, how much
more requisite for the ends of justice is it that the
Judge who filially tries the case should be a medical
man ? If a Coroner be wrong in his medical juris-
prudence, what is the consequence of his error if it
mislead the Jury ? It has the effect of either caus-
ing a guilty person to go free, or of putting an in-
nocent person on his trial. In the former case there
can be a bill of indictment preferred to a Grand
Jury, which, if returned " a true bill," the mistake
of the Coroner is of no consequence. In the other
case, the superior Judge guards the interests
of the accused, and, by a more solemn, deliberate,
and intelligent investigation, puts the Jury in a si-
tuation to correct the error; but the mistakes of the
superior Judge, in criminal jurisprudence, if they
mislead the Jury, what consequences have they ?
They either cause a guilty man to be acquitted, or
an innocent man to be convicted. In either case
the mischief, as there is no criminal court of appeal,
is irreparable. What, then, should the twelve
Judges who try the cases of crime of which the
Coroner has, concurrently with a Grand Jury, the
initiative process, be medical men ? If the argu-
ment for having a medical Coroner be valid, the
twelve Judges, the Recorder of London, and all
the Recorders and Criminal Judges throueout the
kingdom, should be either surgeons or physicians.
Does the argument stand the test of this reductio ad
absurdum? If not, let us hear no more about the
necessity of appointing medical men to the office of
Coroner.—lllorning Herald.

SECOND EDITION.
SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock.

THE LONDON GAZETTE

OF THIS EVENING.

War Office, Nov. 28, 1830.

14th Regiment of Light Dragoons—Cornet E. S.
Curwen to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Kennedy,
who retires; C. Thornhill, Gent. to be Cornet, by pur-
chase, vice Curwen, Sept. 28.
et or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards--Lieut. and
Captain J. 0. Honeyman to be Captan and Lieutenant-
Colonel, by purchase, vice Clarke, who retires ; Ensign
and Lieut. J. Dunlop to be Lieutenant and Captain, by
purchase, vice Honeyinan ; P. A. Freke, Gent. to be
Ensign and Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Dunlop, Sept. 28.
3d Regiment of Foot—To be Lieutenants—Lieut.
W. Thorpe, from the 14th Foot, vice Johnstone, ap-
pointed to the 33d Foot ; Lieut. A. T. &gime, from the
14th Foot, vice J. Carr, who retiree on half-pay 14th
Foot, Sept. 28.

6th Foot—Lieut. W. Greene, from the 6th Foot, to he
Lieutenant, vice C. Cumberlege, who retires upon half-
pay of the Ist Foot, Sept. 28.
6th Foot.—Captain J. Atherton, from the half-pay, to
he Captain, vice Campbell, appointed to the 47th Feot,
Sept. 27.

To be Lieutenants—Lieut. M. 0. Dennis, from the
Royal African Corps, vice W. Curteis, who exchanges;
Lieut. J. G. Wilson, from the Ist Foot, vice Greene, ap-
pointed to the oth Foot, Sept. 28.
To be Ensign, by purchase—J. E. Young, Gent. vice
Egerton, appointed to the 18th Foot, Sept. 28.
Bth Foot—Lieut. S. H. Cox, from the retired list of
the late 4th Royal Veteran Battalion, to be Paymaster,
vice M'Dermett, who has retired, Sept. 28.
18th Foot—Ensign A. Boddum to be Lieutenant, by
purchase, vice Reed, promoted ; Ensign T. G. Egerton,
from the 6th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Boddatn, Seat. 28.
10th Foot—Ensign J. Semple to be Lieutenant, by par-
chase, vice Burns, promoted ; R. A. M. Franklin, Gent.
to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Semple, Sept. 28.
20th Foot—Lieut. J. Kennedy, from the half-pay of
the Royal West India Rangers, to lie Lieutenant, vice C.
W. Comhe, who exchange►, Sept. 28.
33d Foot—Lieut. J. Johnstone, from the 3d Foot, to
be Lieutenant, vice J. 0. Rogers, who retires upon half-
pay 14th Foot, Sept. 28.
37th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon F. APDonogh, from
half-pay Ileepital Staff, to be Assistant-Surgeon, Sept. 28.
SHth Foot—Lieut. J. Watson, from the 14th Foot, to
be Lieutenant, vice Vernon, appointed Paymaster, Sept. 28.
41st Foot—To be Lieutenants—Lieut. R. Jenkins, from
the 14th Foot, vice C. A. Sheppard, who retires on half-
pay 14th Foot ; Lieut. J. M. Ross, from the Ist Foot,
vice A. W. Horne, who retires upon half-pay 14th Foot,
Sept. 28,

14th Foot—Lieut. T. Collins, from the 89th Foot, to be
Lieutenant, vice Crowther, appointed to the 80th Foot,
Sept. 28th.

47th Foot—To lie Captains—Captain J. A. Campbell,
from the 6th Foote, vice Clarke, appointed Paymaster,
Sept. 27 ; Capt. Hon. S. Hawke, from the 94th Foot,
vice W. Eccles, who retires upon half-pay 6th Dragoon
Guards, receiving the difference, Sept. 28. To be Pay-
master—Capt. J. Clarke, vice Mitten, deceased, Sept. 27.
48th Foot—Lieut. J. Brown, from Ist Foot, to be
Lieutenant, vice Hull, appointed to the 69th Foot.
Sept. 28.
57th Foot—Brevet Lieut.-Col. T. Shadforth to he
Lieutenant-Colonel, without purchase ; Brevet Major R.
Hunt to be Major, vice Shadfortb ; Lieut, J. Brown to
be Captain, vice Hunt, Sept. 28
To he Lieutenants, without purchase—Lient. R. Ball,
front half pay 59th Foot ; Lieut. W. F. Putnam, from
half-pay 101st Foot, Sept. 28 ; Lieut. W. J. Saunders,
from the '7sth Foot, Sept. 28 ; Ensign W. Loekyer, En.
sign E. Lockyer, Ensign It. Alexander, and Ensign C. If.
Darling, Sept. 29; Second Lieut. W. J. M'Carthy, from
the Ceylon Regiment, Ensign F. Baynes, from the 88th
Foot, Ensign R. Bevan, from the 77th Foot, and Ensign
T. C. Loft, from the 92(1 Foot, vice Brown, Sept. 80.
To be Ensigns—Ensign J. 0. Blythe, from the I st West
India Regiment, vice W. Lockyer; A. T. Allan, Gent.,
vice E. Lockyer, Sept. 29; J. Spence, Gent. vice Alex-
ander, Sept. 30; S. F. De Saumarez, Gent., vice Darling,
Oct. I.

60th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon W. S. Weredie, from
the 65th Foot to be Assistant-Surgeon, Sept. 28.
65th Foot—Assietant-Surgeon J. Miller, from half-pay
sth West India Regiment, to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice
APOretlie, appointed to the 60th Foot, Sept. 28.
69th Foot—Lieut. A, H. Hull, from the 48th Foot, to
be Lieutenant, vice J. V. Vernon, who retiree upon half-
pay Ist Foot, Sept. 28.

_ .
--71 th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon NV. Stewart from half=
pay 6th Foot, to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Hughes,
whose appointment has not taken place, Sept. 28.
77th Foot—J. S. Atkinson, Gent. to be Ensign, with-
out purchase, vice Bevan, promoted in the 77th Foot,
Sept. 80.,

ilOth Foot—Lieut. F. Crowther, from the 44th Foot,
io he Lieutenant, vice Thornley, whose appointment has
not taken place, Sept. 28.
•

83d Font—Ensign 11. Howard, from the 68th Foot,
to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Watson, appointed to
the IrBth Foot, Sept. 28.
88th Foot—Ensign W. Stuart to be Lieutenant, by
purchase, vice Grant, promoted ; J. Dowman, Gent., to
be Ensign, by purchase, vice Stuart, Sept. 28.
88th Foot—E. A. Hawker, Gent., to be Ensign,
without purchase, vice Baynes, promoted in the 57th
Foot, Sept. 30.
92d Foot—D. Stewart, Gent. to be Ensign, without
purchase, vice Loft, promoted in the 67th Foot, Sept. 39,
9liti Foot—Ensign J. M. Grant to be Lieutenant, by
purchase, vice 01lead; promoted; W. B. Ainslie, Gent.
to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Grant, Sept. 28.
94th Foot—Capt. W. Mackie, from half pay 6th Dra-
goon Guards, to be Captain, paying the difference, vice
Hawke, appointed to the 41st Foot; Ensign T. Cun-
ningham to he Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Workman,
promoted ; J. T. HO, Gent, to Ire Ensign, by lambert!
vice Cunningham, Sept. 28. ,
99th Foot--Lieut. C. S. Bunyon, from lialf-pay 30th
Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice J. Canny, who exchanges.
Sept. 28.
let West India Regiment—Lieut. J. Palmer, from
half_pay loyal York Hungers, to be Lieutenant, vice A.
Alelotyre, who exchanges, Sept. 28 ; G. Itawstorne,
Gent. to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Blyth, ap-
pointed to the 57th Foot, Sept. 29.
Ceylon Regiment—Lieut. L. Clare, from half pay 60th
Foot, to be First Lieutenant, vice W. Keen, who ex-
changes, Sept, 28; J. Ileyliger, Gent. to be Sevond Lieu-