The Sun.
London, England, 1863-07-22 00:00:00

ESTABLISHED CHURCH IN AND,

In reply to Sir H. BRUCE,
Sir R. PEEL said with regard to the le' ns connected
with the Established Church in Ireland, and which had
been moved for by Sir F. Heygate on the sth May, there
was a great deal of difficulty in obtaining them. They had
however obtained returns from the registrars of 12 dioceses
—returns for 11 other dioceses were in course of prepara-
tion, and it was expected the whole would soon be completed.

CLOONE LOAN FUND.
In reply to Mr. W. 0. GORE,
Sir R. PEEL stated that the report relative to the Cloone
Loan Fund would be presented on Thursday next.

PROMOTION IN THE DOCKYARDS.
Mr. FERRAND asked the Secretary to the Almiralty
why the board had promoted a person named Waymouth,
lately for_ man of shipwrights, at a salary of £250 a year, at
the Devon?cid yard, to be a timber inspector at Deptford
yard at a salary of £350, in contravention of their own order
limiting the age for promotion to 50 years, Mr. Waymouth
being upwards of 68 years of age.
Sir A. BULLER wished, before the noble lord replied,
to ask whether there was not a covenant in theind
them
of apprentices in the dockyard of Devonport entitling
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her Ma-
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persons without examination, who, though not eligible
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thparticular appointments. Mr. Weymouth had been
foreman in the yard, and these foremen were eligible to be..
come timber inspectors and assistant master-shipwrights.
To become assistant master-shipwrights it was necessary to
undergo an examination, because their duties required men
of high qualifications. But when a foreman possessed great
experience, and had no longer the activity to become a
master-shipwright, it was open to the authorities to give him
the appointment of timber inspector. Mr. Waymouth had
been appointed timber inspector as a reward for past services,
and it was an appointment he was capable of filling, though
a man of considerable age. The hon. member had asked if
Mr. Waymouth had been examined before his appointment
as foreman; but he had received the appointment before
1847, when there was no regulation requiring examination.
With regard to the question whether it was intended to
bring Mr. Waymouth back to Devonport after a short time,
at the highest salary of £4OO a-year, he believed nothing of
the kind was contemplated. Now, as to the question put
to him by the other hon. member for Devonport, he had
merely to state that in 1859, when the present Government

came into office, they found there was an Order in Council
establishing a certain number of artificers in her Majesty's
dockyard, and giving the number at 9,621; but they found
there were 10,850 employed, or about 1,100 men above the
number specified in the Order in Council. Accordingly they
set about reducing the number to that specified, and they
did so in this way—that was to say, when vacancies occurred
they did not fill them up in the ordinary way, but employed
hired men who were not entitled to superannuation. They
found, however, that so long as the practice prevailed of
filling up the places by appointing the apprentices, it would
be impossible to reduce the number to that of the Order in
Council, and accordingly it was decided that the apprentices
when out of their time should be continuously employed as
hired men ; and whenever a vacancy occurred in the regu-
lar number, if their conduct was goad, they were placed on
the establishment. The hon. member seemed to think
that there was a breach of faith with regard to the appren-
tices, but there was nothing of the kind. They were em-
ployed continuously, and taught their business, and no ap-
prentices in private yards were allowed the same advan-
tages.
THE RECENT REVIEW AT ALDERSHOTT.

In reply to Col. STUART,
The Marquis of HARTINGTON said he was happy to
state that there had been some exaggeration with reference

to the casealties which it was alleged had taken place at the
recent review at Aldershott. It so happened that Sergeant
gray, of the 7th Fusiliers, had died on the march of his
regiment to the parade ground in the morning; bat, ac-
cording to the report of the surgeon, after a post-mortem

examination, the deceased had been suffering from disease
of the heart of long standing. No other man had died upon
that day. With regard to the other question of the hon.
and gallant member, he begged to inform him that, although
there was not as much accommodation as might be desired,
no more than one family was lodged in one room.

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY. :EVENING, JULY 22,
_1863.

the laws of Japan. Her Majesty's Government then wrote
to those who were supposed to have most influence in Japan
with the merchants, and asked them to put a stop to their
proceedings, and he hoped that by this time an improved
state of things prevailed, and that those who had outraged
the feelings cf the Japanese had left the country and given
place to a better class of men. Now as to the Japan out-
rages, they wet e not committed alone against Englishmen.
The first was the murder of a Russian officer and seaman—
a murder not yet redressed. This was followed by the mur-
der of the American Secretary ot Legation, and shortly
afterwards one of Sir R. Alcock's interpreters was murdered
at the door of hishouse. Then the outrage upon the Eng•
lish followed. Mr. Oliphant was wounded. Shortly after
two marines were killed. This country had means of de-
manding redress, but the demand was most moderate. Her
Majesty's Government were inclined to treat the Japanese
Government with consideration. The Japanese had sent
over an embassy. That embassy was treated with the
greatest kindness. Their object was to induce the British
Government to make concessions—in fact, not to insist for
a time on the opening ot all the treaty ports. Did her Ma-
jesty's Government refuse? On the contrary, they con-
sented to postpone the operations of the treaty, and it was
the example of her Majesty's Government that induced the
other Powers of Europe to make a similar concession. Shortly
afterwards a murderous assault had been committed on
four British subjects in Japan, who were walking at the
time on a public road, to which foreigners had access. Was
not the Government bound to demand redress for this wan-
ton outrage ? It had been asked whether they were going
to make war. By the last accounts they had hopes that the
demands of the British Government would be acceded to,
and that Prince Satsuma would be compelled to make repa-
ration for the outrages his retainers had committed. Whether
he would be compelled by the Tycoon or by the British
forces the next mail would probably show ; but the English
Government had throughout treated the Japanese Govern-
ment with the greatest consideration. The principal object
was to get the English merchants to conduct themselves
with ordinary prudence. They were, unfortunately, the
first to cause disputes, and then, when in difficulty, they
turned round upon the Government and demanded the assis-
tance of the naval and military forces to protect them.
After few words from Mr. COCHRANE, the motion was
withdrawn.

POLICE CHARGES.
Upon the motion of Mr. WHALLEY, a return was
ordered of all the cases of charges made before police ma-
gistrates in petty sessions or at police-courts, and dismissed,
together with the amounts paid by the persons so charged
for costs from Dec. 31, 1862, to June 30, 1863.
DISSENTING CHAPELS.

Mr. NEWDEGATE moved for a return from the chief
officer of police in every town 01 Great Britain, showing
every chapel belonging to other sects than the Church of
England, and every monastery, convent, or religious house
used or occupied to the month of August, 1863.
After some discussion the motion was withdrawn.
CIVIL SERVICES.
Mr. PEEL moved for a general abstract of the grants
for civil services for 1863-4, compared with the grants for
1862-3.