The Sun.
London, England, 1830-11-19 00:00:00

THE CIVIL LIST DIVISION.

•To the statement of this memorable division, published
in j'he SOM of yeoterd.y, we Appended a note expressive
of the difficulty of making it correct, and of our anxiety
to correct any errors. The following are the only correc.
Lions *0 have' received Up to the moment of our going to
press
The Hon. G. It. Abereromby was 110 i absent from the
division on the Civil List on Monday evening, but voted
in the Minority against Sir IL Parnell's nation.

Colonel Abeicrsimby iequesta particularly that the above
may be inserted The. Sun of to-day, as he is marked
absent in the division list published in the paper of yester-
day.-24, Regent-street, Friday morning.

sis,—l see you have put my name down ;as absent in
your list of yeaterdsy. I request you will correct the milt.
take. Ivoted for the Select Committee..—Your's, &r.
Stevens's Hotel, Nov. 19. 11. WILLOUDIIIIY.

In the List of the Division in the House of Commons
!upon going into a Committee upon the Civil List, pub-
liabed yesterday in The .Sun, the Editor has inserted the
,name of Colonel Clements, the,Mentber fur the county of
Leitrim, as gloat, :Whereas he watt present, and .voted,
in the Minority.--Loudon, Nov. 18.

In our yesterday's Lilt of the Division on Sir N. Per-
netl'r Motion the name of W. Dickinson, E4q., blernber
for Sornerietsbire, Was given among the absent, and that
of J. Lee Lee, Esq., Member for Wells, a, being in the
minority, butte of whom Toted in the majority.

POLITICAL FORESIGHT...O-.IIIC lute Minis-
ters. dissolved Parliament in the confident expectation of
adding ninety-three trtbeir majority; whereas- oo the very
first divieiou they are left in A minority of ttyenty-ninos
upwards of two hundred Members being alma frPul
.parinus carioca.

ALARMING STATE OP CHICHESTER

AND ITS NEIGHBOURIfOOD.

(FROM OUR CIIICHRETER fORRISPONDENT.)

CHICHESTER, NOV. 18.

The excitement of to-day has fully equalled that
of yesterday. Thirteen or fourteen threshing ma-
chines, chiefly in the parish of Soshami were de-
stroyed last night by mobs assembled for thepur.
pose. At three o'clock this morning the house of
A. Lavieti, Esq., at Salt Hill, near this city, was
surrounded by two or three hundred men,, who de-
manded five pounds • and threatened, in case of re-
fusal, to set fire to the premises. After some parley
Mr. Lavieu gave them two pound*, on condition of
their leaving him unmolested. 1 hey, however, pro-
ceeded to his barn, broke it open, and totally de-
stroyed his threshing machine, after which they de-
parted. Several other houses in the neighbour-
hood were visited in like manner in the course of
the day and night, and amongst them was that of
Lady Henry Howard, at Aldingbourne, where, the'
men obtained thirty shillings. The money thus
procured appears to have been spent almost imme-
diately at the nearest public-houses. A Special
Session of the Magistrates (the Doke of Richmond
in the chair) was held in this city this morning, and
a proclamation was agreed to, declaring that the
complaints of the people should be heard if made
properly, but that nothing coming from an assembled
mob would be listened to, and that all offences
against the laws would be punished with rigour, or
to that effect. Eight men who had been appre-
hended in a Tillage public.house, and were suspected
of being concerned in last night's proceedings, were
brought up, and after a long examination were re-
mantled until Saturday. Whilst the Mngirratts
were investigating this • ease, information was
brought that a
,large body of men were assembled at
Seagrove, and were proceeding towards Goodwood.
The Duke of Richmond instantly mounted his
horse and set oft to meet them, attended by
up-
wards of fifty, gentlemen who had been sworn in as
ispicial constables. On coming up with them, the
Duke pointed out the impropriety of the course
they were pursuing, and advised them to disperse,
telling them what were the proper steps for them to
take. The majority took his Grace's advice, and
the ringleader of 'those who were for a contrary
course was taken into custody, and after a few in-
effectual attempts at rescue, brought to 'Chichester.
He has been remanded, to be brought up again on
Saturday. All is quiet again here, but there is
little doubt that more mischief will be done in the
night, as largeparties have been seen in different
parts of the neighbourhood.

IRELAND.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

Ma. EDlTtlit,—ln referring to the opening speech of
the Duke of Wellington, a passage will he found relative
to the existing impoverished stale of Ireland, to remedy
which a panacea is pointed out.—" in the return of ab-
sentee proprietors to' their native soil, and the holding out
encouragement to respectable individuals to become resi-
dent there." Now, Mr. Editor, although I have never
owned a foot of land in that country, it has hitherto been
my choice as an abode for several years past, from which
it may be inferred that any observation I have to offer is
quite disinterested, and may be allowed to possess some
little claim to experience at least.
Without doubt the Union of the Irish Parliament with
England was a prima facie cause for many leading fami-
lies interested therein, turning their thoughts to London as
a future residence, vacating, as they have done, their pri-
vate mansions in Dublin ; but this they were not blame-
able for, inasmuch as they became the better enabled to
discharge their Parliamentary duties, and avoided the
expence, trouble, and danger of an uncertain passage
through the !rich Channel before the introduction of steam
navigation. But it is to that disgraceful and systematic
mania for absenteeism in the higher classes generally that
the present evils are attributable, which has left the lower
classes masters of the soil, who naturally, from the want of
administrators of the law, have perverted the course of
justice by taking the law into their own hands—
" The rich, and they that have an arm to check
" The licence of the lowest in degree,
" Desert their office ,• and themselves, intent
" tan pleasure, haunt the capital, and thus
" To all the violence of lawless hands
" Resign the scones their presence might protect."
• To check an evil of such vital importance to the well-
being of Ireland is, no doubt, the interest of all classes of
her community; argument and solicitation hare hitherto
been of no avail; how necessary is it, therefore, to devise
a compulsory plan for the immediate return of the absen-
tee proprietors, by placing se am:able-tax upon such who
prefer to become aliens to their country ; and by raising
the resident aristocracy to a just sense of their pre-erni-
tience, by making them the confidential •agents of the Go.
vernment, instead of abrogating day after day the small
power they once enjoyed. They require not pensions and
sinecures to stimulate them to exertion, but the simple
acknowledgthent of their valuable talents, by a seasonable
and conciliatory intercourse with the Government of their
country. With respect to the latter part of his Grace's,
observation, " the encouragement to other respectable
individuals to settle there," the late 11111 for the equali-
zation of the currency (cubicle it! Until that measure
was effected, all those who drew their income from Eng..
land could live in Ireland at.* mach cheaper rate than at
present, owing t.) the " bonus," for each it may be called,
ofBl. 6s. Bd. upon every 100/. British paid in Ireland;
whereas at present the one pound English it demanded
for the self same articles in weight •and sire, that formerly
the one pound Irish paid _for; and moreover, where
le. ld., Es. Eil., er Ss. Sd. Irish, and so on, teas for-
merly demanded, the same price is still kept up in Bri-
tish money, and for what, an article far interior to what
may-be purchased at a lower price 'in England. I will
readily admit that in wholesale purchases, and large pay.
ments, this evil does not so much apply, but it le the
poorer end middling class who.speuffredr
iebmy,thine rortuerre:
anAd
Sargd.ument's rake, let us rate it
liaoladoTineri'suhmiremewr a;stutiafollyr
at 1e..1d., or thirteenpence Irish, Wag equivalent to a
British shilling; therefore, on the day the labourer be-
came paid a British 12d., instead of 18d. Irish, he went
to market, and got but twelve penny loaves, or any other
article originally sold at a penny each, instead of
thirteen,.as usual, for Iris family, and these articles, not
increased in weight or aims; thereby the poor man suffered,
and still suffers, a dead loss of one-thirteenth of his sub-
sistence.. Let Ireland return to her former currency, and

WI; landed proprietors return to Ireland, ind no inrther
encouragement will btrequired by revertible strangers to
become iettlere there.

RF.FOR M.

TO TILE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

Sta,—The present is undoubtedly an era of, no attn.
nary importance, and upon, the wisdom of the intiasurea
now adopted depends the welfere, perhaps the very exist-
ence, of the Empire. A strong spirit of discontent per-
vades great part of the, kingdom, and whilst on the one
hand all turbulent and seditious proceedings must be re-
pressed by the strong hand of legs) authority; on the
other, it is inonmbent,on un to eonsider what may he the
causes of dikaffection) and how far it is in the power of
-Government to remove them. It it needless to conceal
that one of the principalcausee is the present date of the
representation of the people in Parliament, and deprecat.
mew, as every honest man must do, the wild, visionary, and
impracticable schemes of annual Parliaments and univer-
sal suffrage, it cannot be denied, . that there are many
things in the present constitution of Parliament which re-
quire alteration. It is my intention in this letter to oonfine
myself to the consideration of how far it may be exFedient to
give Member, to Birminghamfklanchester, and oilier large
towns at present unrepresented ;, and first I would observe
that tbi4 measure is so far from being an innovation, that
it should rather be called a restoration "of the Constitu-

tion to it primitive purity. la ancient times it was ow-
-1 unitary for the Crown, at towne increased in opuknce and
wealth, to summon' them to return Members to Perlis.
ment, a As'-trade is of a fluctuating neture" lays Black.
stone, " and vellum long. fixed in a place, it was formerly
" left to the Crown to su►umon, prove cora, the most
"flourishing towns to send representatives to Parliament,
" so that as town. increased in trade, and grew populous,
" they were admitted to a share in the Legislators.•,
One of the great arguments need against Iteform:is that
in Parliament, as at present Constituted, all property is
fairly represented. But is this the ruse? Can property
be said to be fairly represented when no Members are re-
turned for large and opulent towns; the *eats of our prin-
cipal manufacture, ? Jr' it not ridiculous to talk about
property being fairly represented when it is notorious that
these great emporiums of trade, theft seats of national
wealth, affluence, and.power, return no Members to Par.
!fitment? What would be the, reflections of a stranger,
who, on visiting Leeds, Birmingham, or Manchester, on

witnessing the stupendous efforts of art anti science in
those towns, which form, as it were, the heart of our
trade, and which diffuse life anti vigour through the
kingdom—what would be his refiectiOns when told
that though the theory of the Constitution wee, that
all property should be represented—though
.this was
also in earlier times the practice of the Consti-
tution, yet that these great marts of trade and commerce
did not enjoy the privilege of returning Members? Can
any thing. by more preposterous, than that there should be
no Members in the Commons Howe of England -to repre•
sent the wants, the opinions, the interests of so large and re-
spectable a portiorfof the community ? It may be said, that
they are indirectly represented by Members for other places.
But what would be said if Yorkshire, or Nortlimaerland,
or any oterlarOnounty, should have no Members of its
own in ParlierilerA but should be asoired its interests
were represels4l- by the Members for some borough, at
the other extremity of the island? the freeholders of the
county so circumstanced would naturally say, " The woe-
" thy Member for such or such a borough is no doubt an
wimalde ;man, and on great guestione of war. or
" peace, or such topics, will give his opinion or
" his vote well and correctly ; but how can be

be supposed to understand our local Wariest or to
If
represent our opinions? In the smile way the menu-
lecturers ray, " You give Members to every county to re-
ss present its opinions, and attend to its interests; you
"give Members to Liverpool and Bristol to represent com-
-14 melee—you give four Members to the city of London to
" represent, in a becoming manner, its trade ; but to us
" who contribute so largely to your wealth, to us MI)
" enable you to compete with the world, by your tier-
" tious in war, and to rival all nations in the arts of

" peace; to us you deny this great and invaluable pri-
" vilege !" Theta. is, indeed, scarcely a measure that can
be brought forward in Parliament, the discUirsion of which
would not he conduCted in a more satisfactory manner
if these towns were represented. on all
ques-
tions of taxation, or of regulations regarding trade ;
nn all questions of free trade, mad, in short,
m almost every point of great national interest, how great
would be the advantage of. having representatives ceiripg'
tent to explain to the House how the great sources of
public wealth would be affected by the measures in ques-
itiertak such are some of the advantages that this plan
would produce. It is no wild theory, for here we see the
practical benefits that would result from it; it it no inno.
vation of the Constitution, for we have seen that it only
tends to restore it to its ancient and healthy state, How
teesk, though how wild would be the idea, that even if
this were an innovation it ought therefore to be reaisted!
Time, " that great innovater," as Lerd Bacon calls it,
proceeds rapidly ; opinions rise and frill ; old sources of
wealth are dried up, new ones are discovered; and can it
bo supposed that the •same regulations which suited one
state of society are adapted to another ? Shall man-
gas, habits of life, natural feelings, intelligence,
*od wealth, ebb and flow, and the constitution of Gavern-
rpent remain fixed and unalterable? What is the history
of the British Constitution but one of changer), and she-
rations, and improvements? Have not our great and
revered forefathers maintained this mighty empire in its
High and pui.ssnt state by a wise observance of the signs
of the times, and by skilfully varying their measures to
Ilea the varying state of affairs? Let us not, then, now
aserifice the spirit to the letter of .the Constitution. Let
Lo wisely yield those points which are required by the
*per of the time, and whilst we hold social and In-
viohtble the fundamental principles of the Constitution,
ire solicitous to prevrve its faults, its blemishes, and
I have the honour to terrain, Sir,
Your obedient Servant,
ALPHA.

November 18, 18:10.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
TATTERSALL'S.
4 very meagre attendance yesterday, and more talk of the new
Mthistry than the Derby and. Oaks. In these stakes scarcely any
ehliers have arisen, the oftkrio on the field for the Derby are 15
to t, and no takers. Hamm Was backed at 20 to Ito 100/. by a
paras nf great influence, there is ho doubt that be will be a pro.
mittent favourite. For the Oaks a mere shade divides Oxygen
and: Circassian. The friends of both are numerous ; in fact, no.
Meg else is In any demand. At the close of the room the odds
sto* thus
Tile DIARY.
15 to 1 agst Mr. W. Chitliey's Caleb
13 to 1 Agit Lord Exeter's nolicnslan
Hi to I t Mr. fleardsworth's Ceowick
• 10 tot apt Lord Jersey's Cobweb colt
18 to 1 agst Lord Sligo's Brat de Eq.
20 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's limns
30 to 1 apt Duke of Richmond's Bel.ctar
OAKS.
5 toi apt Doke of °tattoo's Oxygen
11 to 2 oast Mr. Houldsworth's Circassian
.t II the other horses remain at the odds quoted in our last report.

HUNTING INTELLIGENCE.
APPOINTURNTs rag THE liteistUNti WXRK.
The Warwickshire Hounds meet on Monday, at Wimpaton
Bridge; Tuesday, at Mitford Bridge; Thursday, at Itehington
heath; and Saturday, at Farnborough--at half-past ten,
The "Brookside. Harriers meet on Monday, at Newmarket;
Wechsesday, at Ashrombe, (the alternate Wednesday at the
Kennel liforsth and Friday, at TelesconineTye—at half-past ten.
'fl Brighton Harriers meet on Monday, near Mitcham ; Wed.
nciulay, near the Race Course; and Friday, near the Dyke—at
half-past ten.
The Somerset Subscription Fox Hounds meet on Tuesday, at
Crourcombe; and Friday, at Asholt Wood.
The Fuckeridge Hounds meet on Monday, at htadants ;
Wednesday, at Jock ; and Saturday, at Capons—at hail-past ten.
The Taunton Dean Harriers meet on Monday, at the Turnpike.
gate, Curland ; Thursday at the black Lion, Bradford.
The Athrighton Hounds meet on Tuesday, at ilagley ; Thurs.
day, at Dudmaston; and Saturday, a Lizard—at hall.past ten.
The Cambridgeshire Hounds meet on litonday,'at Childerley
Date; Tuesday, at Shireluitell ; and Friday, at Potton Wood—
at half.past ten.

Yesterday the Members of the Corporation
were informed that Mr. Dense*X, the Common Sergeant,
was appointed Attorney-Generel, and an active canvass
was immediately commenced fir Mr. liar, Mr. LAW,
and Mr. Sergeant ARAliik, for the vacant Civic situation.'
Mr. HILL is strongly recommended by Mr. Baena rum.
Morning Paper.—Mr. Lim. is a very eminent lawyer,
of great anti varied experience. We hope the honest
Liverymen of London will appoint this gentleman to the
situation to be vacated by Mr. Denstax, in preference to
the brother of the " tame elephant," who has no qualify •
cation* that we ever heard of, as the Liverymen must
have long since found out. Mr. LAW is a very Common
Pleader indeed.—En. Son.

A requisition to the LORD MAYOR to con-
vene a Court of Common Council was yesterday signed by
upwards of 100 members of the Court. The object is to
discuss the propriety of again requesting that his Most
Gracious !lIAJESTY Will be pleased to appoint a day for
visiting his faithful citizens of London, at the Guildhall,
which still remains in a state of almost complete prepara-
tion. The most sanguine hopes are entertained by the
Corporation that the invitation will be most favourab),
and promptly answered. The Court of Common Council
will, of course, studiously avoid making any application to
his %omen, until a new Administration shall have been
thrilled. We understand that the Qursw expressed great
regret to the LADY MAYDRZSe. at the evening party to
which her MAJsaTv invited her Ladyship, that so severe
a disappointment had taken place, and hoped that another
and a speedy opportunity would occur. It is alas said
that several gentlemen, who are in communication with
the individuals about his MAJEbTeIi person, oats that the
Kartu has also exhibited a very marked feeling with respect
to the disappointment ; and spoke in such a manner of
the citizens of London, as removes all doubts from their
minds as to his MAJESTee intention.

STORIES OH AMERICAN E 4 It.-4t is worthy
of Miss Altrircian, one of the best and molt successful de•
lioestors of unsophisticated English lile, that she should
have devoted: herself for some time to the task of culling
the most characteristic of those tales which, being written
in America, ere capable of giving to the English reader
the most authentic end vigorous ,pictures of Transatlantic
scenery end society t whether the latter be regarded in the.
singular and unparalleled aspect which it assumes among
the first settlers and back-woods-men or in the odd re-
finements of the cities. The design thus entertained has
been at length completed, and Alive Maroon is about to
publish her collected stores in three volumes under the
above ti

ORIGIN op THE FORT OF Sr. 100.—III
.the year 1,15911, Fa.srietsco ns At.nuttneaQue conducted
a fleet of nine ships to India. his nephew, At.rnoNso
Os ALSUQUERQUE, who afterwards acquired so great a
reputation in India, commanded one 'of the 'squadrons.
From the first arrival of the Portuguese in the eastetn
seise, they had proved a source of jealousies and wars
airlang thO native Priuct* ; some of wham were deter.
miued to repulse those new and dangerous visitors,
while others felt inclined to give them a favourable
reception. The King of Cocirtm was among the latter
number. The partiality which he had manifested
towards the strangers provoked the hostility of the
ssmorin of Went, their implacahle enemy; dud, unable
to resist so powerful an adversary, he had been compellol
to fly, and abandon his dominions. But on the arrival of
ALBUQUIRQUI the balance of victory
was quieklyl
changed. The forces of the aarnorin were immediately
driven frauCouhiii, and the. fugitive Prince was rein-
stated in his kingdom. In return for this important see.
vice, he granted the Pertuguese permission to build a fort
in Cochin. The work was Boon finished, and the fort re-
eeived the name of Elt. Lartiner's
• Cyclopedia.