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about concluding their labours. He therefore moved
that the Bill be re-committed.
Mr. T. ATT WOO D seconded the amendment.
Sir E. WILMOT said the Hon. Member for Kidder-
minster was rather mistaken, for on the last day the
clauses were taken as by the consent of all parties, and
he did not tl,ink a case had been made out to show that
the parties bad been taken by surprise.
Lord INGESTRIE said that although Counsel ap-
peared in this case, it was on quite a different
point, and the question of tolls was not mooted. lle
therefore thought the patties ought to be heard by
counsel.
Mr. WARBURTON said that the clauses were
s cad amtUbly in the t resence of Counsel, and every op-
portunity had been afforded for objecting to them.
Mr. BARNEBY saw no reason for the recommital
of the Bill, for the parties interested in it had con-
ferred together on the subject during the sitting of the
Committee.
After a few words from Mr. Clive, Mr. Wolverley
Attwood, and Sir R. Inglis,
The SPEAKER said the question for the considera-
tion of the House was whether notice had been given
that any alteration was intended to be made in the
tolls ; for whether they were raised or reduced, it was
necessary that notice should be given, as there were
parties interested in either case.—(Hear.)
After some further discussion, the Bill was ordered

to be re-committed.
LONDON AND BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY
BILL.
On the motion for the further consideration of the
Report on this Bill,
An Hon. MEMBER moved to expunge the clause
which empowers the Company to raise a million of
money by the creation of new shares, as it would have
the effect of creating jobbing in the market, and produce
great fluctuations in the price of shares.
Mr. FINCH said the clause had been inserted by
the Committee, after mature deliberation.
Mr. WILLIAMS said the evidence on this Bill
had been delivered only this morning, and he therefore
suggested the propriety of postponing the present dis-
cussion.

Sir J. GRAHAM considered that an adjournment
would be productive of great inconvenience.
Mr. P. THOMSON, in the present state of the
House, requested the Hon. Member (Mr. Finch) not
to press the matter -to a division. He thought it would
be more advisable to make a general regulation on the
subject.
Mr. FINCH supported the clause, but would leave
the matter in the hands of the House. _

Sir J. GRAHAM said he thought the proposition,
if just, should have been made a general rule as to all
Companies, and, as applied to this particular Company,
was very unfair.
Mr. WILLIAMS said the Committee had proposed
that if the Company should pay up the 750,000/. they
had borrowed in anticipation of calls, they might
raise the million either by borrowing or new shares.
But to this the Company had objected. If the
Bill passed, the Company would have shares in the
market to the amount of four millions. More
than half the 750,0001. had been borrowed from
the proprietors themselves ; therefore it could not be
difficult for them to pay it off. But no : the Company
would raise the money in their own way.
Mr. T. ATTWOOD did not think it was a good
principle to allow a public company to borrow money
until all the money subscribed was paid up. He would
support the motion of the Hon. Baronet opposite.
After a few words from Lord INGESTRIE,
Mr. FINCH said he would not divide, and the
clause was agreed to.
On clause 11 being proposed,
Sir JAMES GRAHAM proposed to insert words
allowing goods to have a preference under special cir-
cumstances.
Mr. FINCH said he could not give up the words.
The Committee had deeply considered the peculiar case,
and it was proved before them that a great preference
had been given to Pickford and Co., of Which House
the superintendent of the Railway was a principal
member.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the House
divided ; but forty Members not being present, the
House stood adjourned.

HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 14.
ROYAL ASSENTS. 1
The Royal Assent was given, to Exchequer Bills
(13,000,0001.) Bill, Ecclesiastical Appointments Sus-
pension Bill, Aberbrothwick Harbour Bill, Cambridge
Gaol Bill, Bury (Lancaster) Market Bill, Rhymney
Iron Company Bill, Timberland Drainage Bill, Leeds
Soke Corn Toll Bill, General Cemetery Company Bill,
Newark Gas Bill, Holmfirth Gas Bill, Redruth and
Hayle Roads Bill, Northampton Road Bill, New Cross
Turnpike Roads Bill, Worksop and Kelham Road Bill,
Tetbury Vicarage Bill, Chirk (Denbigh) Inclosure
Bill, Moulton (Suffolk) Inclosure Bill, Oxenbourn and
Ramsdean Inclosure Bill, Stow cum Quy (Cambridge)
Inclosure Bill, Frethern and Saul (Gloucester) Incin-
sure Bill, Melbourn (Cambridge) Inclosure Bill, Reuss's
Naturalization Bill, Antunano's Naturalization Bill,
Biber's Naturalization Bill.
The Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor,
Viscount Duncannon, and the Elrl of Shaftesbury.
The House having adjourned during pleasure, the
LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat again on the Wool-
sack at Five o'Clock.
Lord RAYLEIG H presented petitions from two plat, s
in the county of Essex, in favour of Rowland Hai's
plan of postage.
Lord CAWDOR presented petitions to the same
effect.
Lord H ADDINGTON presented two petitions
from wards in Edinburgh, praying for an extension of
Church Endowments.
The Marquis of ANGLESEA. presented a petition
from the Board of Guardians of the Anglesea Union,
praying for an amendment to be made in the New Poor-
law Amendment Act.
Lard ASHBURTON presented a great number of
Petitions, praying for the adoption of a penny postage.
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.
Lord W HARNCLIFFE rose to call the attention
of their Lordships to something in the nature of a
breach of privilege ; if it were not actually a breach of
privilege, it was an exceedingly improper interference
on the part of the Press with respect to the proceed-
ings of a Committee of their Lordship' House. Last
night he found in the Standard a quotation from
the Dublin Evening Mail, headed " Committee of the
House of Lords—lrish Inquiry." Here the Noble Lord
read the paragraph, as follows :
" One is really disposed to ask the question--was Lord
Normanby, or is Captain Drummond, a Ribbontnan ? Had
they been sworn of the rebellious brotherhood, or anxious
for the promotion of the hellish schemes which banded
these traitorous men in a bloody conspiracy, they could
not have been apparently more sedulous to promote their
objects, or more anxious to preserve their secrets than they
have been. We speak not of the general and sweeping
denial of the existence of any such confederacy as that
stated to be in mischievous operation. False and foolish
as such a denial was, it wanted the circumstantiality neces-
sary to fasten the positive participation of the parties in
those atrocities to which life and property have been sacri.
ticed in Ireland ; but the truth is out, and what ulterior
measures the Committee may recommend, or the House of
Lords adopt, must be matter of consideration.
" This Committee, which, by the way, is indefatigable
in its labours, sat on Wednesday from one o'clock until
five. Mr. Despard, a police magistrate, was under exam.
ination the entire day, and his evidence respecting the
Ribbon conspiracy was truly important. He had been di-
rected to bring with him all the documents connected
with the subject; but not having done so, he was ques-
tioned as to the reason, when he admitted that he
called on Mr. Drummond on his way through Dublin. AND
WAS DIRECTED BY THAT PERSON TO WITHHOLD THE DOCU-

MEN TS.
" Now, the question is, will the Lords submit to this in•
dignity ? Will they tolerate this gross violation of their
privileges? Will they commit the culprit to Newg ate
or treat his insolence with contempt ? Will they beconf
tent to leave the carrion, and fly at the higher quarry ",
Our firm belief is, that nothing short of an impeachment'
of Lord Normanby will satisfy the ends of justice, and of
its issue no one who is acquainted with the evidence can
entertain a doubt."
The effect of the paragraph undoubtedly was to
charge upon the Noble Marquis opposite, and
upon Mr. Drummond, an attempt to keep back
documents from the Committee for the purpose of
preventing the truth coming out. That was the whole
tenour of the insertion. Now, he could state as-
suredly to the House, that that was contrary to the
facts-Hear)—and that there had been no wish,
either on the part of Mr. Drummond, the Noble
Marquis, or anybody else, to keep back any one docu-
ment.—(Hear, hear.) The facts were these, that a
letter bad been written to Mr. Despard, requesting his
attendance before the Committee. On his way here
he called on Mr. Drummond in Dublin, and asked him
If he could produce certain documents, which Mr.
s rurcnnond said he could not d 9 without a summons
from the Committee. When the parties were examined
to a certain extent here, they said they could go no
further without the production of the documents, The
Committee took time to consider the question. In the
meantime a private communication was made to Lord
Morri,th, who immediately directed that all the docu-
ments should be produced. This was such an im-
pri,p,T and so direct a charge on the characters of
the Marquis of Normanby and Mr. Drummond, that
the Committee had directed him to bring it before the
House.
The Marquis of NORMANDY said he was not
aware that the Noble Lord meant to bring this
forward, and nothing could be more fair than the
manner in which he had done it. Objecting,
as he (the Noble Marquis) did, to the appointment
of that Committee, objecting still further to its constitu-
tion, and conceiving that he might have occasion here-
after to object to its proceedingi, he felt it to be quite
consistent with the line of conduct he had originally taken
of declaring he would take no part in. its proceedings,
as there had been a sort of impresqon created that
evidence existed to prove a prima facie case of a general
Ribbon conspiracy in Ireland. He felt it to be quite
consistent to entreat his Noble Friend, and through him