The Sun.
London, England, 1839-03-08 00:00:00

.ohm he (Mr. Sha-) knew to be a most spotless cha-
racter, and whose residence in Ireland was productive
eof the most beneficial effects to the population. (The
Right Hon. and Learned Member then read a long
paper, stating that Lord Lorton had taken measures for
improving the system of husbandry in his property,
and that in consequence it had become necessary to
eject many of the tenants, and proceeded to state that
in one tenement the man who had been allowed to enter
as occupier had not long been in possession before he was
barbarously murdered behind his own dwelling : the
farm was again let, and the new tenant was attacked
soon after, and beaten so as to be rendered tota.ly unfit
for the slightest exertion during the remainder of his
days. In another instance a tenant had been savagely mur-
dered, and yet this was said to be a civilized country. The
worst feature was the evidence which these circum-
stances bore, that they arose out of no ordinary cause—
they were not prompted by the usual motive which led
to the commission of offence, but they plainly emanated
from a combioation against the rights of property and
the administration of justice in Ireland.—(Cheers.)
If he were not afraid of wearying the patience of the
House, he might cite numberless other instances, but
the House would allow him to refer to one particular
case to corroborate the statement which he just made
—it was one already known to the House—the atrocious
murder of Lord Norbury. It was clear that the mur-
der was no common one—it was perfectly clear that
it was not done by a single assassin—it was evident
to every one that it was one of a conspiracy against
rank and property throughout the country.—(Hear,
hear, hear.) That Nobleman was one of the most
kind-hearted landlords,- and one of the best men
in Ireland, and one of the most high elogiums
ever passed on any man was passed upon the deceased
Nobleman by Mr. Rafferty, the parish priest, at the fu-
neral ; yet notwithstanding that character, so given, lie
was shot on his own domain almost within sight of
his famiay, and yet no trace whatever has been dis-
covered of the assassin. It might be said that of
coo: se there might be very great sympathy shown
upon the occasion ; that the Nobleman was lamented,
rl thet after the assassination of such a good landlord
intry turned out in pursuit of the murderer.
ry reverse was the fact. When Lord Charleville,
ae nearest neighbour to the deceased Nobleman, was
informed that he bad been shot, he fancied that it was
by 50710 accident, and remained under that impression
until, open driving through Tullamore, he found the
pepnla' ion in crowds calling out with shouts, " He's
dea.l—be's dead." It. was sworn in the information,
taken soon after the murder, two men went into public-
Leese, and calling for liquor, the first, who took the
glass, gave a toast, " May the man neither lose an eye
nor a finger that shot Giandine ;" and another, in a dif-
f.erent gave as a toast, " The Devil's luck to
Lord Cc!ao.line—he earned and deserved his
deeth.' So much to show the sympathy which was
"eft for the family of the murdered Noble-
. Shortly after the murder, a Roman Ca-
upon the estate, speaking with Mr.
cart, the son-in-law of Lord Norbury, said," for God's
e, Sir, don't say you have been speaking to me, be-
s it is as much as my life is worth to be seen speak-
see or rny of the family." People had been
s that the murder of Lord Norbury was
lang as Mr. Garvye was alive. Months be-
er.ler, Mr. Garvye had received a letter stet-
re were parties out, lying in wait to murder
,vy bad been out on a previous night, when
was returning from Nenagh, and that he only
'aged Is. his quick driving. Upon several occasions
reeelved those warnings, and be had been advised,
ell by his own friends, and by the Government of the
.amtry, that it was necessary he should leave the
atintry.—(lisar, hear.) Mr. Garvye was a brave
inn, he had been an officer in the Naval service, and
would fearlessly have faced the cannon's mouth, but he
could net airing with his family remain in a country
ts here every tree might ambush an assassin, and
even his own garden wall conceal a murderer—he was,
therefore compelled to remove from the sphere of his
dtities.—(Cheers.) A short time previous to the mur-
der of Lard Norbery, a printed paper was brought to Mr.
Garvy-e by a poor man, who said it had been extensively
circulated throughout the neighbourhood ; that printed
hailer was the speech of Mr. Emmett upon his being
tislesi what he had to say why sentence of death should
•be passed against him. Now, thirty-six years ago,
~tor of Lord Norbury, bearing the same name,
.iced that unfortunate man. Now why, he would
s, was that speech reprinted and circulated at that
,emeet emong,t the peasantry?—(Hear, hear) Yet
were to be told that there was no conspiracy exist-
ing in Ireland. He knew that there was a wide spread
one, and that Ribboniim had very extensive ramifica-
tions throughout the whole country. He had much
informa inn on the subject—the Government had more.
(Loeb cheers ) Let him have the papers and he
would pr.)ve it. There were many Noblemen amongst
his own Mends who had been threatened, waylaid, and
whose lives were not safe in Ireland—one he might
mentien—it was the case of Lord Hawarden.
He
to th,_! Sessions at Clonmel, and returning late
a friend, luckily in place of taking the high road,
:;nst tea solicitations of his friend, be took a mountain
road home, and that very night four men lay in wait to
murder biro on the highroad. He knew the names of
th:e parties for they hart confessed it. Agitation was the
-,12. OF it h. What had the Hon. and Learned Mem-
din a ,id of the Precursors of Tipperary only
? Ira that county neither life nor property
, yet they having sent up a large sum to the
or Society, he said they bad done their duty
knew there was crime in the district, but
is as be remembered that be who planned the
der of Mr. Cooper was a man who had been de-
.red of his Inc!. Was that language to be ad-
res3c;! to a Ligldy excitable people 7—(Loud cheers.)
Again on the IGth January, shortly after the murder
of Lord Norbury, the Hon. Gentleman again address-
ing the Precursors said, Lord Oxmantown ought to be
cautious, !"or the people knew how his family had ob-
tained their property—not by single burnings or mur-
ders, but by wholesale burnings and murders, although
et the same time he admitted that the property had
been in the family hundreds of years. He admitted that
the murderer was culpable, but the man who used such
language as Lord Oxmantown was still more culpa-
blte—( Load cheers.) He talks of the people of Ireland
being a hand of assassins—the fact that Lord Oxmantown
lives is a proof that they are not. What was the mean-
ing of such language ?—(Loud cheers.) Were there
not those in Ireland whom such language would encou-
rage to take the Wild justice of revenge of the Hon. and
Learned. Member. What construction could the igno-
rant people of Ireland put upon such language except
that if there were assassins in Ireland Lord Oxman-
town would not be permitted to live ?—(Loud cheers.)
The Hon. and Learned Gentleman then referred to
the oath taken by the Ribbonmen, the members of
which were sworn to keep secret everything which
there might see or hear, to be loyal to each other, not
to discover or to give any information against one ano-
ther, etc., and what was the mode of punishment ?
Persons from a different neighbourhood were appointed
in order that they might not be known, and to these
persons the offending parties were pointed out, But it
was denied that any such system existed. All he re-
quired was that the Government, if they could do
it without disclosing names, would furnish copies of the papers for which he moved.— (Hear, hear.)
Having shown the state of outrage which prevailed—
havlling given evidence of combination and Ribbonmen
vine traced that to its causes, he would now ask
what part the Government of Ireland had borne in
respect to crime, and combination, anti outrage.—
(Mr. O'Connell, " That's the point.") Had they not
ecouraged agitation ratter than discountenanced
—l, Hear, and cheers.) Had they not by an indiscrimi-
aril wholesale exercise of the prerogative of
undermined the very foundations of justice.—
) When the resident gentry were struggling
most imminent dangers, and cried out for
„ad the Government not taken that oppor-
tunity to insinuate that they had neglected their duties
Magi trates ?—(Continued chpers froni the Tory
s.) Hid they not been denouncing agitation
anti still Patronising agitators in Ireland ? Since the
year 183 k had they not created agitation ? hail they not
been the familiar companions of agitators ?—(Cheers.)
On whom whom had they bestowed their patronage
They !eel chosen persons from the very Societies which
they denounced as treasonable.—(Loud cheers.) He
did not mean the slightest disparagement to the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman opposite (Mr. Pigott), but it
ryes highly improper that he should be the adviser in re-
spect to criminal prosecutions.—(Hear, hear.) Within
the last few days an appointment bad been made by a
Noble Lord, whose e',Aiduct was most estimable in
private life, but selio had avowed himself a public enemy
of the Established Church in Ireland.—(Great cheer-
ing.) it was perfectly scandalous that he who was the
avowed supporter of some of the leading agitators in
Ireland should have been placed in such a situation.
The patronage of the Irish Government had not been
used to promote the public service, but had been bar-
tered for votes in this House=s--(Loud cheers)—and
therefore it was that the faithful subjects of her Majesty
in Ireland felt that they ought to appeal from that Go-
vernment which had not the power, if it had the will, to
serve them, for if they were to discountenance agitation
and enforce the law against agitators in Ireland,
their political existence would not ba worth one
farthing.—(Cheers.) Under these circumstances
he must appeal to the sympathy of the people of Eng-
landt and he would beseech this brave and generous
people to look on the sufferings of the sister country,
violated by outrage, defiled with the blood of her inno-
cent children, and crying aloud to them for vengeance.
--(Cheers.) He implored them in the name of truth,
of justice, and humanity, and in the name of the God of
mercy, not to allow the sister country to be blotted out
from the civilized nations of the earth.—(Great cheer-
ing,) The Hon. and Learned Gentleman concluded by
moving for " returns of all outrages, crimes, and offences
hd'stinguisliing the several kinds and descriptions, which
ave occurred in the several counties, cities, and towns
in Ireland, in each manontisof the respective Makin 1833,
1836, 1837, 1838,. d 39, to the time of g such
return; showing the sum total of each description of I

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