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tirely subscribed to the principle of retirement by age, and
to the opinion that the pay of the navy required readjust-
ing. The expressions which the hon. member for Honiton
had quoted as having been used by him in the debate of
1860 were taken from the report of the well-known commis-
sion of 1840, which was presided over by the Duke of Wel-
lington, which recommended an increase in the sea pay
allowed to navy lieutenants, and which declared, as Go-
vErnment would do well to remember, " If you want the
naval service to be efficient, you must render it contented."
Refusals of command had been made to himself when in
office; and he remembered a remarkable case, in which an
able and distinguished officer, after 24 hours' consideration
of the offer of a command, said "I am much obliged. I
cannot afford to take it." Another officer of great distinc-
tion once wrote to him that he could not afford to take an
active command without doing injustice to his family, and
he added that he knew many others who were similarly
situated. He would ask the Admiralty if it were true or not,
as he hai heard, that the gallant admiral who was appointed
to succeed Sir Jas. Hope in China was likely :to resign the
command on pecuniary grounds, and, further, that the pre-
sent Board of Admiralty had already applied to some four
or five flag officers Jo succeed that officer, and that they
had been unable to get one to succeed him. Was it true
that some of the officers in command of the finest ships in
the Mediterranean had applied to come home and resign
their commands as soon as they had !served their time ?
Those were facts or not, and he was sure that there was no
man in the house to whom it was le,s necessary to point
out than the noble lord at the head of the Government that
such facts were not to the honour of her Majesty's service.
The noble lord might tell them of the honour of serving
the Crown, and he might tell them of the honour of receiv-
ing the thanks of that house, but he would put it to the
n ble lord whether it was the honour of the service or the
efficiency of the service in any portion of it to see the best,
and bravest, and most experienced men unable to afford to
accept commands. (Hear.) He would entreat the house
and the Government gravely to consider these facts, and
gravely to consider the point at which they had arrived. No
doubt the present Board of Admiralty were sincere in their
belief that no great or serious change was necessary—but
the noble lord had entirely changed his course, for he was
now ready to grant the committee which two years ago he
refused, The Duke of Somerset had entirely changed his
course, for he had been for four years insisting that no
change was necessary, and he now came forward with a
frank admission that with regard to pay and promotion a
change was necessary. Perhaps, after what had fallen from
him (Sir J. Pakington) it was hardly necessary for his hon.
and gallant friend to press his motion, but if he did so, ho
(Sir J. Pakington) would feel it his duty to vote with him.
But he would suggest to his hon. and gallant friend, as the
question had so materially changed, whether his hon. and
gallant friend would not best discharge the duty he had so
properly undertaken and so well performed, by not pressing
the motion to a division, and he would suggest to.the noble
lord in that case whether he would not be disposed to recon-
sider the proposal for a committee, and he would submit to
the noble lord whether it would not be better, after the ad•
mission of the Government, that they should themselves
undertake this question. That would be the more constitu-
tional course; and be the most conducive to the interest and
welfare and the improved efficiency of her Majesty's navy.
Sir C. WOOD could not concur in many of the statements
put forth by the right hon. gentleman, and it struck him
as not a little remarkable that the right hon. gentleman
should find fault with a committee, when he himself had
appointed a royal commission. •When he had been First
Lord of the Admiralty all interference with the dockyards
were surrendered completely to the superintendent, and the
Admiralty had nothing to do with the promotion or employ-
ment of the people in the dockyards from that time forth.
No better proof could be given of the independence of the
men than the fact that at the last election in Devonport the
lord of the Admiralty who was a candidate was defeated by
a large majority, a great number of the men in the dock-
yards voting against him. (Hear, hear.)
Sir J. HAY replied—After the appeal which had been
made to him, and considering the admission made on the
part of the Government, he would not press his motion to a
division. But now that the noble agreed to a committee,
he trusted it would be one in which the house and the ser-
vice would have confidence. (Hear, hear.)
The motion was then withdrawn, and the amendment of
Viscount Palmerston agreed to.
SECURITY FROM VIOLENCE.

Mr. ADDERLEY moved for leave to bring in a bill for
providing for the future security of the persons of her Ma-
jesty's subjects from violence. The right hon. gentleman
stated that the principal object of the bill was to have offences
of this kind visited with corporal punishment.
Sir G. GREY assented to the introduction of the bill,
but did not pledge himself to support its principle. It had
been decided that flogging should be abolished except in
two or three instances, and it was for the house to well con-
sider the subject before it retraced its steps. If it was to be
left to the judges, past experience showed them it would
not be enforced, and he thought there would be a repug-
nance on the part of juries to convict where corporal punish-
ment was to be inflicted. The right hon. gentleman had
not very accurately defined to what offences the punishment
was to be applied ; indeed it would be very difficult to draw
the line of distinction. If it was the most effectual punish-
ment, let it be applied to all cases under certain restrictions.
No doubt in the army and in gaols it was the most prompt
and effectual punishment under certain circumstances.
Leave was then given to bring in the bill.
REMUNERATION TO JURORS.

Mr. AYRTON obtained leave to introduce a bill for the
remuneration of jurors in certain cases.

WRITS PROHIBITION.

Mr. E. P. BOUVERIE obtained leave to introduce a
bill to prohibit the issue of writs for actions of debt in the
superior courts for sums of less than £2O.

BILLS OF EXCHANGE AND NOTICES (METRO-
POLIS) BILL.

Sir G. GREY obtained leave to bring in a bill to make
provision concerning bills of exchange and promissory
notes payable in the Metropolis on the 7th day of March
next, the day on which the Princess Alexandra will arrive
in this country.
REGISTER OF VOTERS BILL.

On the motiyn of ➢Zr. LOCKE KING, this bil :WA
read a second time.

PRINCE AND PRINCESS OF WALES' ANNUI-
TIES BILL.

On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Mr. NEWDEGATE asked the noblo lord to state, for
the satisfaction of the country, it the Princess Alexandre
was a Protestant.

Lord PALME RSTON said : I am glad to be able to
answer the question of the hon. gentleman in a manner that
will be satisfactory to him and the house. When the ques-
tion arose as to the selection of a future Princess of Wales,
the following conditions were considered requisite :—First•
that she should be young ; next, that she should be hand..
some; and further that she should be agreeable--(laughter)
—amiable in her disposition, well brought up ; and lastly,
that she should be a Protestant. (Cheers.) And all these
conditions, I am happy to say, are united in the Princess
Alexandra. (Cheers,) I hope the choice will be as satis..
factory to the nation as 1 am sure it will be conducive to
the happiness of the Prince of "Wales. (Cheers.)
The bill then passed through committee.
SUPPLY,

The roport of supply was brought up and agreed to.
The house adjourned at half-past ten o'clock till Thure
day.

TWELTE HUNDRED MILES OF HOGS.--The
cago Tribune says the total number of hogs received is
that city since Oct. I—the commencement of the pecking
season—amounts to 1,056,110. These, stretched out in ono
like, would reach a trifle over 1,200 miles.

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