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THE Still, tONDO'N, MONDAY: JUL'

SIR JOHN HOBHOUSE AND THE CENTRAL CRIM
ELECTORS OF NOTTINGHAM

THE GJLD PUST ROBBERY
(From the Nottiela(ant Review.) •
(Continued from our Paper ot Setu,day.)
Darin; the present week; we have been more than Mr BODKIN followed on the saaie side, and contended
once interrogated as to the fitness of Sir John Hobliouse that Mr. sireeaut Borrente was too Pitt witll his oejoetion;
any longer to continue the Member 'for Nottingham, he ought to have daelieed the tree. eiel o e he% e e.•. eetteti
after his conduct upon the Ballot question. Our reply his client to be given iii charge ih the J sv te cause it i
has been that Sir John wets greatly to blame, but teat torte objections appeared upon the recced He under.
the Electors were as much to blame as their Representa- stood a bllhStantiVe felona menu that you mie lit i,e,ict :ye
ave. This remark we repeat publicly, becauee it etre- accessory before the conviction of the principal. and wi:b.
out including him in the indictment e bit, this tetra sub.
eodies an emphatic truism. When the vital question
stantive feleuy was new to the law, aed it el neve, yet beet,
of the Ballot was introduced to the 'mice of the House
of Commons lest Session, the name of Sir John li,tb- . dsfieed by the Judges;
The ptiv here reused fie half an hour to •oeure 4-Vlfeet-
:tonic was recorded against the motion. So objection- ' .. and their „a p' '
Able did he conceive that vote to be—so opposed to meat,
S. rgneatst B.osafere"—s addressed the Chute :n reply to
the sentiments of the Electors-so contrary to the tire arguments of the Counsel 4' tot the prose eo euo, and
cot-
previously expressed opinions of the Hon. Baronet— te,easei ~...et th, y ve-re iio i. :Pi aesetits to the Acetateis
W hat we felt it to be incumbent upon its, as the goer- tie hed n,keit to the ihne, eine 1-1,, ssC tee,' if ,dre case
liaas of the public liberty, to ceasure with a tl,gree ofse- eemit but ,he tack,: Jadee, lei ei eomeet, they A ould bo
verity, the' (seen derelictiea of principle displayed Iry oral io a•isuett• !tee ell tei ell,•eetbeis eeei,,,'Od i'l the
indiftneeit ',vete, peeved. New, It ceuree; their Lordseips
that vote. We appeuled to the coestit mercy noel. the weold cot as: tune that bee ie..eo reved, ebich oars lot been
subject. Did they assembled and declare a warit 01
provd, awl :asst l; eould be puttirg the ei•isotiers to a dis-
',Lei ience in their I:%leinteir? No' Thee the ih-
ference is pdpable, that if not pleased, they were 'llt.;atitit,'..l`' hvbtt'.i)cl"h":). 1411" snit tit'e, ''"l'is'e!'d to' It e%"_",.
H; oil,
clefi,,, .4, i ( ry , to lave proof of
evidently not dissatisfied with his conduct. Very re- tlLie'L,sruiltYo' f then principal,tti' lie"
t!
mote from us, however, is the idea of becoming the hat sently Mated that there
apologists for Sir John's behaviour rt';een no such lima in the present case. Their Lordships
; our object is to would assume that sue lr proof had been given on the trieleuid
seow, that culpability in the Representative, in this that the p..rt of the indictment elnichchsrged the Caspats
aerticular instance, may partly be ascribed to the apathy with having colitis, lied, aided, and abetted au evii•chsposed
of the Electors. We have not only ceased to admire person to commit a felony, and wer • tiler< ?,vaccesseries he.
he course pursued by the Member for Nottingham, tore the fact, had been proved by evidence of who the per-
son was they had i 9 eoun,ej, d, aided, anit eleeted. There
but we have become divested of even the mest re-
w
lie h
is sre several sule e, tante charges in
.the indictment, and
mote reliance upon his political integrity.
tong since lost the dirtier and honourable t east the duty of the Gems, I for the pros .icutien to
aharacter obtained in earlier days ; hit
on
twhich ot ;hese eletrees they WOuki proceel. A
Caar,,:Al with Leine itil ;it.:C.C.,S,Ty, bad it ri;,fli te
tspirations of a youthful heart hate g;vcn L'i:,7" ' - '
the plii:anthropic
. ne the nettle of the party e1t5.,g...-!d es his prieeiptil; with,
say to the base ambition of maturer years : aud the eet such knowledge he .ugle ei;,,ogetli?r be ueab!e to pre-
apright Radical Representative of Westmitister, lots pert_ nit, defettee, for his (Hebei' Mili.,,lC merely d..,pond on
become almost imperceptible in the tampering official his having a bowledge of who was alleged ti have beer-.
Whig of the present day. The name of Hoblieuse the principal in the transactioe. It wa, admitted that it
eras once " time-horioured" and illustrious—it was eseo- Mess wes not the prieeipal, the indietment could not be
tiated ita the memories of thousands with a glorious susteined.
;tend for liberty—it was mingled with popular resist- Mr. Justice LITILEDALE--That admission was made es
regarded Lewin Caspar only.
inee against Ministerial tyranny. During the progress
Mr. Sergeant BOMPAS thought the whole indictment
of the memorable election for Westminster in 1819, Mr. must t e taken together, and the evidence ot Moss must hi.
Hobbouse thus declared his sentiments :—.-
Let me put this question of Reform to the Whigs dis- ,•:
:ken for better or worse, and that the prosecutor could
ot select such parts of it as suited his purpose, and rejec
tinctly. the rest.
They say'—l would limit your right of suffrage. Mr. ADOLPHUS objected to the assumption that then,
I say—t would extend it. would be a conviction in this case, made by the counsel le
They say— I would not have all housekeepers vote.
I say—l would nut stop at houseke. elvers. Will they go the prosecution, when he requested his Lordship to reserve
certain points for the opinion of the tredve Judges, for he
as far as that ? was sure that his Lerdship would not suffer the law to ge
Ask them, gentlemen. to that lenth, if in his own mind, he were conviticea
They say—l am not for Annual Parliameets. that it ought not to do so, but that his Lordship would take
I say—l am. . Will they go as far as that? Ask them, upon himself to decide upon the various objections to the
,
aentlemen. . indictment that had been urged on the part of the prisoners.
" Theysay," was.the prophecy ; and in the political his- There had been much discussion ae to the meaning of the
tory of Sir John, it is most assuredly verified. He his term substantive, at which he was surprised, hone thought
tot only opposed the Ballot, but he has repeatedly and it could be defined by any school-boy. lie submitted that
pertinaciously resisted any extension of the Suffrage— the prisoners were wrongly nalicted as accessories, there
lye, even objected to carry out the principles of the being no evidence as to who was the principal, for the
Reform Bill. How slightly must he value the fair fame evidence as to the manner in which the gold dust had been
of fidelit to rofessed o
originally obtained, only proved that it had been obtained
y p pinions in what contempt must
under false pretences.
he hold the esteem of the people for consistency of repu-
Ir C. Joves said that if Moss were not the principal
ration ; but Hobbouse is not the only name connected with felon '
~ •
ir at :al events he had been so treaty d by the counsel
Westminster, that rose in glory, but to set, we fear, iu f the prosecution throughout the while of the proceed
larkest infamy. What a burlesque upon Sir John's loge, and if he were not to he considered so he was not
?resent position is that celebrated speech made at the to be bel'eved ; then the case failed altogether against
:erne period referred to, which must have drawn from lass. every one of the prisoners. The Learned Counsel con-
auditors the sympathizing tear. • eluded by expressing his conviction that the objectieni
I rase no 011" start lil tots world than to obtain the taken on the part of the prisoners were fatal to the in-
tsteem of my fellow. countrymen ; and I ant the more dictment.
inxious to obtain that esteem, because the usual resources The whole if the legal arguments, which lasted upwards
it reputation are for me dried up for ever. The favour of six hours, having at length terminated.
-if Pricers the protection of partiee are as far beyond my Mr. Justice LITTLEDALE said that the objections taken
;each as they are beyond my desire. I have nothinee to to the indictment by the prisoner's counsel, arid their argu-
expect but such persecution as Two/ be thought sufficient meats in suppert of them. as well as the answer to those an
to crush my puny elf ;mg, and such impartial proscriptions euments that had been given by the different counsel for the
re awaits all those who, in the divisions of party, sub- prosecution, were alt ,gether of such importance that he
scribe to no sect, and presume to have en opinion of their would not teke upon himself to decide upon them. Tnerr
ewn. eefe. two other learned Judges on the rota lot that sessious.
acid he should wish to see and consult
Sir John commenced his care, in the character of a
th.t:tohoorf t wh
rheoemh
days,a d been unavoidably absent during the last
:riend to the people ; all his exertions were to be put
ertli for the attainment of one ob ect—a Rid cal Re-
them before Inc gave any ()pinion as to the several points
j
tttat had been raised by the prisoner's counsel. Under those
,31.1-n in the Commons' House of Parliament. Th;s
circuits ancas the question wi,s whether it would be worth
mint once Pined, then those grievances which he was hile to proceed an further with the date at present, ie
vont to pourtray in glowing terms, were to he lust 110 whether it would not be better to break. it offin the presen:
aneously redressed. Such was the first cretin lus stage of the proceedineQ, and adjourn the Celia
eolitical history—the people were all in all—his sym- Mr. Sergeant Bowes thought that if the opinion of
:rattly was with the multitude. Now we behold him the Court should be in favour of the prieonere on the
the oe,ctinant of place, basking in the sunshine of en points raised that they would be entitled to an acquittal.
elegant Court, and perpetually bartering that true nobi- it would be better not to proceed any further with the case
ity of soul which marked his entrance into public life, at present.
t'or the " favour of princes, and the protection of party." Mr. Brady, a jurytnan, said he begged to call the atten.
Lion of the court to the feet, that he and his brethren, all ot
in the eager grasp for titled dieinction, Sir John sinks
whom were tradesmen, had been detained from their buss.
at once his independent professions. Instead of that
hesys for six days at the greatest inconvenience to them
" esteem which he was most anxious to obtain," he me-
ee a. 1-1. had 70 or ur
80 journmn in his employ, wh
could
fits and receives the superlative contempt of his" fellow- 1114 not go to their work next week without receivioe
eountrymen." So i t is--the patriot rarely survives the directiens from him, Under those circumstances he trustee
tir of St. James's—its atmosphere withers the germs of that his Lei &ship would allow them all to visit their reaper.
liberty in his breast. tine Ifohies for a few hours ie the custody of one of the
From this digression we return to the electors of officers of the Court, particularly as, from present appear-
Nottingham. They have seen their representative shuffle ences, it was very likely that the trial would last afloat(
weck.—( Laughter.)
nom a division upon a question : declared open by tlne
Cabinet. Will they condemn his conduct ?We appeal Mr. ADOLPH u 3 said he hoped the Juryman was wren,.
to them to do so. One word of advice—let the electors in the opinien he had just expressed as to the probable t'u
rationi of the trial, but as one ot the counsel fur the peso:,
ie prepared with a man to supersede Sir John. To the
ens, w: bad no objection to any arrangement ahatever the
lion. Baronet we say—make sure of a Peerage, or look 'would contribute to the conifert and convenience of ti'
out for another coestetuency, Jury. Perhaps, as they had been at one house (e( Mr
Lovegrove's the London Coffee-house) all the week, the
would like to visit his house at Blackwell to-morrow an,
partake of some white bait.—( A laugh. )
Mr. Justice LITTLEDALE still he did not think, provide,'
counsel on both sides consented, that there was any el
jeetion to the Jury going home fer a short time to thee
families, arid making such arrangements as the state .-
their business required, hut it must he most distinctly tin
derstood that they were not to held any convcrsatl r
even with members of their own family, on the subj •ct r '
the trial.
Mr. CHADWICRE JoNES said be bad no doubt the Jur;
had had quite enough of the trial already, and that wh
;hey got home to their wives, they wool :1 find somethiee
:Ise to talk about.—( Roars of laughter, )
Mr. Sergeant Bompas had ao otjection to any arrange
ment retarding the comfort of the Jury which the Ceure
,night think proper to make.
Mr. Justice LITTLEDALE inquired if counsel on le,te
i,,,lsetkv,o uelvde
rcyo nt
hs erren
t.t tohr a
tt
h , theii j l
hui should
erL
gin
th les ( home
) custodyu
on
ft il
a in
se,
aerate edieen and that at that hour they should return te
the Loudou Cell' e-housi.?
Mr. CLARKSON said th it on the pirt of the prosecutio;
he had no objection to such as arrangement, provided tha
the prisoner's counsel would pledge themselves that thie
would not hereafter, if' the jury should ultimately return
, verdict against the p isomers, take an objection to tte
verdict on that ground.
The irisoners' Coulee], severally pleiged themselves
tua the pris eters else accutiesced that they would not tala,
-tut such obj etion, whatever might be tie result of th,
riel.
Mr. Brady said, on the part of himself and his brethren,
he had to thank the Court for the indulgence it bee
eranted to them—as far as regarded thet t,y(Saturd,iy)
With re-: Terence to the fallowing eta , he eished to ask hi,
heirdship whether there steed 4 te ate- elij e•tiett to theii
taking a trip per railway to Windsor, in custody of the
etliiiers of the C; u t lie tleieele a ilqi(' of t6e Winds-,
.ir a lu:(1 lio ti)tiot ell good—( Laugh!, t )—but perhaps e
they were so far they weuel be beyond the jwisiliction f'
he peurt; that was a qe.stien for the Learned Comte:,
aid Court to decide, but he doped chit they would net
;glee so tong to argue it as they bee" done the question.:
ander discussion that morning —( Roars of I tughter. )
Mr. C. Panders said, Uxbridge would be a v,•ry pleasate
eiip, and that certainly was within the jurisdiction of tie
Court.
Mr. Justice LITTLEDALE thOUVI.t the Jury eught not I,
co bey and the Courts' jurisdietnie but if they kept eititi.:
that bound, he had no elje.Atte to their takiee e ride te
morrow any where they pleased, p ()sided the efileer of to
Court were with them, mid they returned ai an early hoe,
in the evening.
Mr. Brady said, perhaps the Court would let them al'
go home separately this evening, provided thee teiterea
into some re cognizreces not to converse with -toy' one or
:he sulject or the trial.
Mr. Justiee LITTLEDALE regretted thet he had not via
power to grant them that itabligeece.
After some conversation between the Learned Judg,
Ind the Sheriffs, it was en aeged that the Jury should g'
home iminealatela in parties of three, ca,h attended by et.
officer, that they were to return to the Lottdoe Ceff,e-heuei
ply nine o'clock in the evening, that to.mort ow (Stele-ley).
they might ride out in eteeody of the otreers en\ wheie
:hey pleased within the jurisdiction of the C•,urt, to rt ..
turn to the CA:fee-house by nine o'clock to tae evening
they undertaking in the mean time not to co iscree with
any persona on the subject of the trial,
Four of the °Este.) of the Court store teen seem in the
usual form to take charge of the Jur,a, .end they then left
the Court.
The Court whieh had been crowded to exco.is through-
out the day was then adjourned.
It was noticed that Moses was uncommeuly restlces
throughout the day, but towards the conetteiion appeared
to be in better spirits. His daughter, Mrs. Abrahams,
was very Cejected, and shed tears as she left the dock. The
and TA ltrifel.,:w triali_m:ro:lleuaets,,ti:
minutes
,1:7:1
rust
enartri
el
two Cespere took no netice of either of them during the
.entire day.
Wednesday evening.
RECALL OF THE JURY.
ek,'• 't
le
cl to te yesterday
rm n aatret"bne fo° before
Ceuesel, and prisoners
had retired, Mr. Justice Littledale, -after a short consulta-
:ion with Mr. Straight, the Depety Clerk of Arraigns, di-
,,c:ed an officer to call the Ju-y blea, and soon &tere ards
they entered the hsx, and, on taking their sees, the
Learned Judge informed them !het the indulgence he had
just granted them must he recalled. He had been led away
by his feelings, and the friendly disposit4on of all the par-
ties, to do that which, upon some further consideration, he
had found to be at variance with the practice of the Court,
which, for the sake of public., ieoiee, must be strictly' ad-
er d to. Every indulgence the Court c :old Allow, which
was not likely to intert re with the permemenee of te„,,
Ileitis, would be greited them ; but it iv old be eve...sari.
prevent
to keep them together in a eituetion weeeh weld('
any communication with any one. The Jury would there-
fore be detained, as they had been every night since the
trial had commenced, at the hotel, in the custody of the
proper officers, and they would be allowed to take the air,
and have their usual drive; but they could not be divided,
nor have the communication they wished for with their
thfillol
tit" ei
:liPc,

PROBABLE EFFECTS OF STEAM

IN FUTURE WARS.

An opinion is becoming prevalent, that the use a
steam will supersede the old mode of conducting naval
carfare. Like most novel and bold propositions, this
new -doctrine has obtained advocates, who have yielded
their convictions to the influence of their imaginations,
rather than to the influence of reflection. ; That the use
of steam will materially •modify naval warfare, is pro•
',ably true ; but it cannot change its general character.
No vessel can be built of sufficient force and size to
ransport a sufficiency of fuel, provisions, munitions of
war, and guns, to contend with even a heavy frigate,
allowing the last .to bring her broadside to bear. It may
be questioned if the heaviest steam-vessel of war the±
exists could engage a modern two decked -ship even in a
calm, since the latter, in addition to possessing much
greater powers of endurance, could probably bring
in
the most guns to bearall .possible positions
Shot-proof batteries might indeed be built, that, pro-
pelled by steam, would be exceedingly formidable for
harbour defence, but it is illusory to suppose, that ves-
ois of that description can ever be made to cruise.
Even in estimating the power of steam-vessels in calm-
is opposed to single ships of no great force, there is mueb
exaggeration, as historical facts will amply prove. The
ears of this country afford several instancrs of frigate
carrying elabteen pounders lying exposed to the can
ionade of fifteen or twenty gun-boats fur two or thre,
i
ours, and yet in no instance has any such vessel b. et;
,ither captured or destroyed. It is a heavy sea-steamer
hat can bring six guns to bear at a and ye;
iagates have re,isted twenty guns advantageously place;i.
'or hours. It may be said that steamers ‘voiN
!are to approach nearer than gun-b ats, and that.
iy obtaining more favourable positions, they will b-
o much the more form
Tlplois hut. one p

_ .
tion in which a ship can he assailed without the means of
••esistance, that is di reedy ahead, and from a seurition neer
'-)y. Large ships cen hardly be said to be defenceles,
.ven node; these biretimstanees ; as the slightest varia-
ion in their position s'iould always admit of their
'winging three or four heavy guns to bear. The expe-
Hems of seamen offer a variety of means of cliangin,..
he direction of the ship's head in calms, even did sae
'.he sea itself perform that office for them. Nothing.
for instance, would be easier than to rig, temporarily.
vlieelte to be propelled by hand out of the stern or
how ports, or even on the quarter, that would bring a
:arge ship's forwari or after guns to bear, in a way to
heat off or destroy a steamer. There are certain vex
winciples that are unchangeable, and which mese
prevail under all circumstances. Of this class is th.
veil-established fact, that a ship which possesses the
!fficiency which is contained in the double power to
annoy and to endure,- must, in all ordinary circum-
stances, prevail over a ship that possesses hut one of
'hese advantages, and that, too, in a smaller degree.
Steam may be, and most probably will he, -made rl
dowerful auxiliary' of the present mode of naval
warfare, but is by no means likely to supplant it. Fleet=
nay be accormicried' by steamers, but their warfare
viii be conducted by the pre eat class of heavy ships,
since it is not possible to give sufficient powers of an-
.royanee or endurance to vessels propelled by steam, to
n dale them to lie under the batteries of the latter.
Even as active cruleers, the efficiency of steam-vessels is
probably over-rated, on account of the consumption of
fuel, though it remains to be proved by exp rience who.
ther their employment may not induce a change in the
armaments of light vessels of war. 'the history of the
war of 1812 shows that ships have often cruised months
without having fallen in with convoys, and it is certain
that no steamer, in the present state of_scienee, can re-
main at sea thirty days
c...e.ency, as a steamer.
In a word, while the introduction of steam into nava'
warfare will greatly modify maritime operations, it is ba
no means likely to effect the revolution that is supposed.
In those portions of the art of seamanship that it will in-
fluence, steam will meet steam ; and, in the end, it• roil.
be found that the force of fleets will be re:lu red e,
settling the interest of stet to-day.—Cooper.
es, as

SUDDEN DEATH op A CIIIL D.—Ann I3roni -
ton, a child four years of an.e, whose parents reside hi
Monmouth-street, Soho-square, of Thursday drank some
boiling water from - the teakettle. She was conveyed to
Middlesex Hospital, 'where she expired in an hour after-
wards.

EXTRAORDINARY LEAP.--Last week a filly
under four four weeks old, belonging to a gentleman in
Stirlingshire, while with its dam in a fi,ld enclosed by a
wall of stone and lime, measuring two feet thick, fully thee
feet and a half in height, with a double railing on the top
making a leap of five feet, with a drop
of side, into a court covered with gra-
velas if to measure the leap, when, having retired a few pacea,
off
ecame;lg ithu seventpwe feaenisentisneotcernhnueterha sportingelepeate d l
yto canter up close to the wall,
style, cleared the whole at a
bound, and went off scampering and neighing, evidently
much pleased with the feat. The filly is of great strength
and beauty, got by the celebrated horse Round R bin, be
longing to Mr. R imsay, of Bandon, out of a high-bred
mare.,--GtasgoiP 'Courier.

families.
The Jury appeared astounded at this intimation, and the
animated expression of their eoiro.enanees which h;“) been
apparent at the prop et of a QhOrt to their ho
yy:iy to looks of devvmding joror
et
length bruke 'silence by stating that he should lose