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possible ; instead-, .however, of.simplifying them,
they were note proposed in a lump, a mode which he
must,oppose. He supposed it was not intended that
VeISOP. shou4 pay the same duties in both Coun_
tries, that certainly could not be a principle of
the Union, the objea of which was stated-to be
to make every thing. more easy. He would -not
now trespasi upon the Committee, by stating"all
the inconveniences which existed,, and which re-
(luired to be examined into, and settled. He
would merely mention Stamps and Sail Cloth ;
upon both of them some alterations or explana-
tions. were necessary, and it was with the hope
that they would obtain alteration or explanation,
that he wished them to come, on separately.
Great, care and attention were necessary upon
these subjeas,` because he was sure it must be the
wish of Parliament, to satisfy the People of that
Country that their interests were not neglected.
Now, if these Duties were passed in this general
n'Mijnet, without examination, they would, pee.
-haps, •think -that their interests were not attend-
a-to. He repeated, that it was far from Ms
wish, from any accidental knowledge lie might
possess upon these subjeas, to impede:any of the
measures, because though, perhaps, he might
Pave wished to see things otherwise than what
they now were, yet, in the .present state of af-
. fairs, it was his objed to. give. every support to.
such .measures as would
,Make the event which
had- taken place, as
,beneficial as possible.
Mr. PITT said, ,he was extremely happy to
hear the Right Flon. baronet express sentiments
which did him the highe4 honour. The Right
Honourable- Baronet had expreskd an . opinion
which must-be felt in common with him by every
Gentleman in that House, viz. that the abilities
and that experience which the Right Hon.,Ba-
ronet possessed, ought and Would be applied to
the- same purposes whether in or out of office, viz.
to the service of-his Country ; and if eltbse duties
were candidly and religiously performed by all,
he bilieved.tlwre would be very little diftrence
of opinion. He certainly could • not pretend
,to
possess equal knowledge-of,the.details of the.sub.
jeet, now before the House with the Right Hon.
Baronet; but it-really 'did not appear that there
-was any ground for,opposing the. present Motion.-
The Rightlion. Baronet had objecied to the Peo.
pie of
,Irehind 'being upon to pay Taxes
with which they were not acquainted ;,,but,• in
point of •filet, this. Motion was only to con-
tinue certain. Taxes which the People of- Ire:.
land were now paying; and Which had been im-
posed by the Parliament of Ireland. He certain-
ly concurred with the Right Hon. Baronet with
respell to the-advantages drat would result from
hairiag a \ShOule:of the •Duties, becaUse he had
felt the good eff'e of that Measure in this Coup-
, try but he was sure the Right Hon. Baronet had
not- now a Schedule in his pocket, which he could
propose. - In the' course ol the Session, however,
one might. be prepared, and
_adopted without in-
convenience ot delay to the Public Service. It
had beep suggested. that this Resolution went to
make these Duties perpetual, but that was not
qUite correel,- for it was only proposed to vote
them for a limited time, and the Mt of Union,
did not tend to snake them more perpetual than
they; were. before, because, though' in point of
faa they. were voted annually, yet the Public
Paith was pledged to them, for some of 'them
Were to pay the „Interest of ;he Public Debt.—
The Right Hon., Baronet could -not have made
such good Loans as he had done, if the faith of
the 'Country had not been considered as pledged
to the continuanco of these-duties, 'or• at least to
substiuite. others in their room of equal valUe,
and, therefore, the Right Hon. Baronet could nor
mean to represent this as an attempt to render
those Duties ,permanent. which were before
temporary. As to:what the Right-Hon. Baronet
had saidabourSail-tloth, if ins memory did not
fail him, that very article was done away-brthe.
Mt of Union ; lie ,thirefore, bOped, the Right
Hon. Baronet would feel, that there wasno
dation for his opposition to the present measure.
Ihe -House, he was sure) congratulated itself in.
finding, that it wits in possession of Personspos,
ses'sed of such complete knowledge 'Of the Aftirs
of Ireland-it would. feel that, whether the num;
ber aMembers from that Country were greater
or smaller, • they Were enough ample-in-.'
formation to the House upon every subjed rclar,
rive is Ireland. The- House would find (to use a
common 'expression), themselves-as much at home,.
in aging, upon their opinions upon affairs, relative
toilreland, as ahay.would in acting for this Coun-
try from
,their own observations:
svr 3. PARNEL, in eXplapation, said, 'flirt
the Rt. Hon. Gentleman's argument was-founded
upon the supposition, that allthese Duties were Nil
proptiated to the discharge of the Inteiest. of the '
Public- Debt,. and consequently,
.that the Public
•Faith s_tiaoti Pledged- to their continuance ; where_
its, in point-of fact, only a part of these Duti6
were 'appropriated to 'pay the interest of the
Debt. As to the Schedule, he ihoughr, after so
•lOng a periodhad elapsed, it -ought 'to have been
prepared ; he did 'not mean to impute any blame
'to those in the-higher' Departments, but most cer.-;
tainly. they :ought to have been prepared by the •
subordinate Officers, :whose 'business it-peculiarly
wai. • .

- After A few . words freim Mr. 'gn F R MAN,
and -a reply from Mr:l3lft; the Resolution was
agreed to, and the Report, ordered to be received
to.morrow.

, • A Message froth the lords- stated,. that their
Lordships had agreed to 'Sir • Sirtr: Sm a :if IS'
Annuiv .si,ll, and several other Bilis: