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London, England, 1830-05-26 00:00:00

CREATE[;.—Wheat, per 751 b. 10s. od. to 10s. 6d.; Barley, 13.4 cirts
4s. Gd. to ss. 13d. ; Oats, 41/Ib. 3s. Gd. to 3s. Gd.
NAkrwlcii.--Wheat, per 751 b. JOs. Pd. to Us. 3d. ; Barley, 38
qrts. As,' Od. to Os. Od. ; Oats, 501 b. 4s. Od. to 4s. 4d.

IRISH MA
Dvm,lN MARKET' we

.RKETS.
),...-7•Fhippv, May 21.
From M. P.
25 0 45 0 :33 63
0 0
3 0 16 6 j 5 9
12 0 16 6 14
8 0 24 0
2 0 14 0 14 10;,,j

61,1 Wheat, per barrel 20 stone
0 Bele.. . 17 stone
159 11; stone
1,869 Oats 12 stone
11,175 Cwt. 0 stone
1,618 Oatmeal 8 stone
Sold to Makers only,
9,392 Cwt. now
yerage price 01

Receipts of Flour, 12,
Sales of Do. 11,

,f Wheat ani
,10,21 Firsts,
1, Second
Thirds,

17 0 I 2.1 0 I 20 11A
Flour 50s. 4W per sack.
from 225. Od. to Od.
from I4s. Od. to 2ds. Odfrom Bs. Od. to 123 Od.
tREAp.
lalf Quartern 43Z

ggartcro Loaf,

PRICE 97

Wheat, Barley. Oats. Flour, per cwt.-
per barrel per barrel per barrel ~...I—.A7__.---,
20 stone. 16 stone. 14 stone. Ist. 211.
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s. (1. as. d. s. d. as. d. s. d. as. (1.. s. d. as. d. :. d. as. d.
Cork.--- 28 0-33 013 0-15 6115 0--1: O 0—,2:3 t' 7 0-18 6
Limerick !2.1 o—`'..i 0 I i 6.1' 4 6! 't," 0— 0 4 18 0--21 0 0 0-15 0
waterfortoo 0-35 013 0-15 0114 n—ls o'lB 0-24 010 0-15 0
.0 0-2 i 0 12 0-16 0
CCilicirnlomwe.....•l 12361 o°---3033 01; 1121 O—C-1104 061100 8-0-13 00
20 6-21 0 0 0— 0 0
Beef, Mutton, Porfc, ---Butter,
per lb. per lb. per cwt. Ist. 2d. 34. 4.0.15 th.
7 ............. •••••... ~,...., ~...., ..........r.•
d; a S!' d. a • S. d: a $.• ii. s. (I. s. 0. s. ,I. s. d. s. 0.
Cork .....—.. 4# —0 4 —0 16 0 —,- 10 004 0900 81 076 062 0
Limerick— ;4-5 4i 4 3. 0...35 006 090 084 078 0 72 0
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per cwt. ; \Vheat ‘..274.T0 51s.
bad; Oats to per bar.
PtrgeiKr4; L.aBK: raEerrNil e:y .1 Oos.
tatol to 1 . •
one • Coals Is. 9.1 per cwt.; Bacon:
el 4d. to 5,/,kl. per lb. ; Mutton 3:1
Pigs to per.cwt.

A large tract of Irish bogs is out being
pure
based by English capcdists. —LimeriehE veniny Post.
MURDER AT MANCHESTER... .A young
gentleman, named ROBINSON, was attacked by a footpad
on Friday night, about ten o'clock, who fired a pistol at
him, the ball of which entered his body, and he died of
the wound on the following. morning.—Liverpool Albion,

HOUSE OF LonDs—(LAST NIGHT.)
MESSAGE FROM HIS MAJESTY.
The order of the day for taking into consideration his
Majesty's Message having been read, together with the
Message itself, the LORD CHANCELLOR rose and ad-
dressed the House as follows
My Lords, in consequencesof the lamented indisposition
of his Majesty, and in conformity with the recommenda-
tion just re al, it becomes my duty to state to your Lordships
the nature and outline of the measure which it is the in-
tention of his Majesty's Ministers to propose to the
House for its adoption, for the purpose of giving effect to
that recommendation.. My Lords, I deeply lament the '
occasion which has called us here to-day, and in the ex-
.
pression of that feeling I am sure I shall be accompanied
with all the sympathies of your Lordships, and these
of every individual residing in this loyal kingdom.—
(Hear, hear. )_My [Ands, I am deeply sensible of the
delicate and difficult nature of the measure which I
have to submit. It is of the utmost importance
that it should be proceeded in with caution and circum-
fop-tvir necessity, &Id it heerreir,
our duty to do every. thing m MSC Carry it
into effect. It must be done in such a shape and farm as
not to he injurious to the public service. My Lords, I
feel most deeply the observations made by a Noble
Earl yesterday. It is perfectly true that we are not merely
to look to present men and present circumstances—(Hear)
but we must take care that we do not establish a precedent,
which under men of different character, and in bad times,
may lead to disasters. My Lords, it must lie obvious to
your Lordships, for the purpose of supplying the impos-
sibility of obtaining the personal signature of the Sovereign,
that there are two modes which may be adopted. The
one is, that some other individual or individuals should,
in the presence of the Sovereign, and by his command, and
byhis Majesty's authority, sign those documents. Another
mode is, that some individual or individuals should by a
stamp, prep rred for that purpose, affix that stamp to
those documents in his Majesty's presence. With respect
to the latter mode, I beg leave to inform your Lordships,
that it has been adopted at different periods in the history
of this country. What lam now stating, my Lords, does
not depend upon loose communication, but upon
most authentic documents, many of which remain in
the repositories of this country. The earliest document I
shall refer to is a patent in the reign of Henry VIII.
That patent is at present in a perfect state in the British
Museum. It appears that by that patent, under the
Great Seal, King Henry VIII. gave power t r certain
persons therein named, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the
Lord Chancellor, and other Members of the Privy Council,
or any six of them, to affix from time to time a stamp
hearing the impression of the Royal signature. This
authority was given for a limited time, not in consequence
of any indisposition of the Sovereign, but to promote
public convenience. There were many other instances ce-
cn HenrytlVicllld.o,civihrieernetst,herißotoybayl
the
to
handwriting- of the Sovereign, but by a stamp. For
tarur er.de i n
was t•e reign
affixed o f
public
instance for the purpose of mustering of troops, and
so on. Documents of this kind to the amount of
eight or ten are now to he found in the British
Mu.eum. In the reign of Edward VI. there were
two proclamations, one authorising the levying of troops
in the North, and another issued in consequence
of insurrections in the South, neither of which had the
Royal signature affixed to them, but the signature of the
Protector Somerset. There was another instance of the
same kind during the insurrection of Sir Tinos. Wyatt. At
a subsequent period in the reign of King William, in the
last hours of that Monarch's life, when he was no longer
able to subscribe his name, he is stated to have given
his assent to the passing of two most important
Bills ; namely, the Bill for securing the Protestant
Succession,_ . and, the Malt Duties Bill., an,
eminent writer it was stated that the authority of the
Sovereign was given to that Cominissien by means of a
stamp affixed thereto. The authority, my Lords, to
which I refer, is Kelley, whose work was published
subsequently to the death of King William. My
Lords, I directed a search to be made in the Parliament- 4
office, for the purpose of getting, if I could, that original
commission. But I find that it three not exist. My
Lords, I am also perfectly aware that in the last
year of the reign of • Henry the Eighth, shortly before
his death, the Royal signature was affixed to a commis-
sion authorizing the attainder of the Duke of Norfolk, and
the Royal assent was given to that by means of a stamp.
My Lords, I am quite aware that in the first year of Mary
a Bill was brought into Parliament to declare that attainder
null and void, upon the ground that it had not the Royal
signature, but only a stamp, and certainly nem that
ereund it was declared null and void, I mention these
historical fact+, my Lords, not for the purpose of relying
on them, because I cannot doubt of the authority of
Parliament to do what is now proposed. lam
certainly quite well aware, my Lords, that no Minister
of the present day would think of adopting any thing for
the sign manual, and therefore, my lords, los Majesty's
Ministers have thought it their duty to come to Parlia-
ment, recommenditig the measure for their adoption, at
the same time being perfectly willing to receive anti Adopt,
if his Majesty's Ministers consistently can, the suggestions
of any Noble Lord improving upon the measure. I shall
now shortly state the form of the measure proposed,
and the securities by which his Majesty's Ministers intend to
guard it. I can assure your Lordships most unfeignedly
that his Majesty's Ministers desire every possible security
should be thrown round this measure. The measure, my
Lords, is of this description—we propose diet a commis-
sion under the sign manual ehpeld issue, authorising
any one or rnore persons wino shall be therein named,
to affix the Icing's signature by means of a stamp, to be
prepared for that purpose, to all such instruments as
may require it. By way of . security, ray Lords,
and for the purpose of guarding against abuse,
we propme, that those who are named in this war-
rant or eemenission should not affix that signa-
ture on any oceasion whatever, except in the presence and
by command of his Majesty. This is the osely guard
we propose : we propose that the peesone named in the
commission should not heve authority to fix the stamp to
tttcooonarfodffiost::pietin.
securities
es,
instrument,cilblll
Irin
,eatetvr ibt:etie stop
taoyi
ivrpn
etediob,oi sileiredeec.nr:lrt,
of his
tesl the
Majesty's
csltthy‘iAti-.m
which I have referred, until, upon the instrument on
wh
t
d
tnti
xceisitrn'et
eaniaintsdsid.dvi soeiAtbtlitjo(yh:abL.,
pro-
poseso
Bu
that the stamp should be prepared and attested, anti
kept in the custody of one of the highest off eery of the
Crown; and this is another security by which we propose
to guard the Act. If any Noble. 7e..,ierd‘ can add to those
securities, we shall be most ready to adopt that addition.
You have, is the first instance, the persons named
in the commission having the high Authority .in
Iris Majesty's presence, and by his Majesty's immediate
command. To viol de that eiithority would be a bleb
misdemeanour, of which the parties guilty would be subject
to the highest responsibility, and to the severest punish.
went of the law, in addition you have the oath of
the several parties named in the commission. You
Lave this farther security, fleet if upon the 'wok of
the instrument there is not signed the memorandum I
have stated, the instrument witl be altogether null and
void. Farther then that the stamp must be affixed in the
peeeenee of one of the Ministers of the Crown, who must
himself attest it. All forgery, therefore, would he ime
practicable, and it appears to me to he int/ape:Bllde to guard
more agairnt the abuse of any unazure, and to render
it more safely practicable titan this. My Lords, it
it is not neentet that this should for ever supersede the sign
m multi ; to guard against that, there is an express clause
ll have the lama fosse and effect as if this Act
passed. Ny Lords, I have stated shortly, in the Act, that his Majesty may as usual, and according
ha
to the accustomed form, affix his sips mantra!, and that the
sa
( n n 1
e slo-nat
dis-
tinctly, a37d explicitly, the, meaning of the measure we
propose to adopt. I have not ststed this for the' purpose
of provoking discussion in this stage of the proceeding.,
because I think it better that the .leljil should be laid
on your Lordships' tables thet it should he printed, and
that your Lordships should Lave the opportunity of consi-
dering it with all the seriousness ant delicacy that e mem,
sure of this nature requires, and of wateriaqy advising,
and of giving all the counsel von can, upon so grave and so I I
important a measure. That she second reading should I
take place to-morrow—suspending also, if your Lordships
please, the standing:orders of the House ; that it slunk i
pass through its future stages withitul. a moment's
delay that can possibly be Avoided. I shall therefore
move that the )3;11 I e laid on your Lordships' tablet

'.that it be printed,. and that the standing orders of the
House may be auSpended, that it he read a seeoutl time /o-
morrow, - and that It pass through all its future stages im-
mediately. ' It , inti. been, suggested by tc,Noble Earl
that a Committee of .Precedents shOuld be appointed
for the purpose of searching for- pitcedents. When
the commission was vested in the Regency, such a Com-
mittee was appointed, and I see no objection to a similar
Committee being appointed cow. If it be thought
proper, let the Committee be appointed and sit to-
morrow. Its labours may be concurrent with ours.
They will not interfere with ours, so as to interrupt them,
but they may aid them. I can only say that from the
researches I have made, and from all the information
I have been able to obtain from ethers, as well as
front my own industry, I sincerely do not think it
likely that any precedent is to be met With on this
point. I see, however, no objection to the appointment
of such a Committee, and if any Noble Lord will be
pleased to move. it, , I shall feel great pleasure
in giving its appointntent my immediate consent,—
I now beg leave`to moie ' that-this Bill he laid on your
Lordships' table, that it be prjnted, that the standing
orders may be suspended, that it be read a see Joel titoe
to-morrow, and that it pass through its future stages
without delay.
Lord ELDON said he should not enter into the merits
of the Bill, nor make any observations just now.
Earl GREY was not prepared to state any objections
on the present occasion, but regarded it as a Bill of
the utmost delicacy and importance, and as one
requiring • the most careful consideration before
it became part of the law of the, land. Ile was not- pre •
pared to say whether precedents could be found or not, but
be thought the importance and the grave nature of the
proceeding altogether, required the uttnost diligence
to be used. in collecting information, and therefore he shonl,l
move that a Committee of Precedents be appointed to .it
to sorrow for the purpose of searobiap, ftw, pre. o-.
Aleuts. ' Millar 'he 410tailit.it 'lll.4ecept, eetisitlering•
all the -efitiumstances;- that tle second reading of the Bill
should be postponed for one day more. His object wris
by na means 'to create delay, and he hoped when the
House came to a discussion upon the second reidin4
of the Bill that no difficulty would be found to its passing,
but he trusted his Majesty's Ministers would not object to
postpone the second reading of it to Thuisday
next.—(Hear.)—No duration of the Act hail brEn
mentioned by the Noble and Learned -Lord. He thettisht
the House ought to have some information on this import-
ant point, that the duration should not extend longer
than was absolutely necessary, and that it should he sub-
ject to the revision of Parliament before the present Sea .
sion was at an end.

The Duke of WELLINGTON made an observation or
two in an inaudible voice. He stated, that be and th,,s,
with whom he was associated, should have no Nb}-et:ima
whatever to delay the second reading till Thursday.
The LORD CHANCELLOR would certainly reserve
in their Lordships the power of altering or amending the
Bill during the present Session. There could be no
jrction whatever to its coming under the revision of
Parliament again during the sating of the House,
The Bill was then read a first time, ordered to be printed,
and to be read a second time on Thursday next.
The LORD CHANCELLOR moved that the standing
orders of the House, Nos. 36 and 175, he suspended, so
as to enable the Bill to pass all its stages in one night.—
Agreed to.

Earl GREY moved that a Select Committve he ap-
pointed to search for precedents in order to ft,cei tain tkft
mode in which it was customary, under circumstaue s like
the present, to affix the sign manual to official document..
—Agreed to.

A Committee, consisting of twenty-four Peers, amount
whom are the Lord Chancellor, the Duke of Wellington,
the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, the Bishop of
London, the Lord Privy Seal, Lords Sidmouth,
dale, Manners, Holland, Grey, and Tenterden, were then
appointed ; and it was agreed for them to sit to-morrow.
CONFERENCE WITH THE COMMONS.

- - -
A message was received from the Commons, reoes'ing
a conference with their Lordships in the Painted (..2hamb,r,
on the Administration of Justice Bill. Their request was
granted. A Committee of their Lordships was ,p;iiiinted
to conduct the said conference. On their return from tin,
Painted Chamber, the Committee reported that they had
received from the Commons a capy of certain ro,olui,ins
agreed to by the Commons, for the removal of Sir Jonah
Barrington from the office of Judge of the Admiralty in
Ireland. On the motion of the Duke of WSLLINUTQV,
these resolutions were ordered to be taken into cons:de-
ration on Friday se'unight, and the Lords-were summoned
fOr that -day.
FOUR AND A HALF PER CENT. DUTIES.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, that he rose to
move for a document which was connected with the ap-
plication of money fur the public service; and though he
did not anticipate any objection to this motion, as a simi-
lar motion had been acceded to elsewhere subsequently to
the period when he gave notice of his intention to bring
the subject forward in that House, he hoped that their
Lordahips would indulge him with their attention for a fen,
moments, whilst he briefly stated the reasons which in-
duced him to disapprove of the nature of the proceeding
which had been adopted, and to think that if it were not
noticed by Parliament, it might lead to unfortunate conse-
, quenees hereafter, in cores of a similar character. For though
what had recently been done, had heen done without any
improperviews or intentions, it had set asidethe unvaried
usage of 170 years, by which the 44- per cent. duties, or
the articles paid in kind for those duties, had been sub-
jected, in common with all other merchandize impotkel
into the country, to the duties imposed by Parliament. It
appeared that of late, by cover of . the Royal prerogative,
they had been exempted from duties, and thus formed a
fund for the Crown, not applicable to any purpoaes re-
cognised by Parliament. He admitted that under the
Common Law the Royal prerogative admitted tilt things
obelonging to the Crown into the country free from all du-
ties whatever. But never before had that prerogative
teen exercised as in this particular instance. The cairn
of exemption was founded on the circumstance of the
goods being for the use of the Crown, and was never
raised when the goods were merely the propsrty of the
crown, which had always hitherto been subjected to the
duties imposed by Parliament for the purpose of meeting
the charges of the public service. In this case you have
certain duties Wren off merchandise, the property of the
Crown,, not intended for the use of the Crown, but for
sale; and he knew not on what principle such practices
could be objected to hereafter, if it were admitted in this
case on the principle of expediency. Merchandize might
become the property of the Crown in times of war by the
droits of Admiralty; and if any Minister should advise the
Crown to purchase merchandise abroad, in the heixt of
selling it at a profit in Great Britain, owing to the heavy
imposts which other importers of it we-e compelled to pay,
he did not know on what grounds, after the present prac-
tice, such a course could be objected to. All the cinna-
mon io the island of Ceylon was the property of the
Crown, and though the Crown had hitherto paid duty on
its importation into this country for sale, he saw no rea-
son why, if the present system were allowed to pass unal-
tered, it should not import cinnamon duty free to create a
new fund free from the controul of Parliament. He hoped
t•) see this subject meet with the grave consideration
which it deserved from Parliament. lie would not at
present enter into the history of the 411 per cent, duties,
hut would merely call the attention of their Lorthhips tv
the point connected with the remission of these duties.—
He did not charge the Government with any improper in-
tentions in making that remission ; but it did appear to
him that the consequences of it in a constitutional point
of view might be most mischievous. The Noble Marquis
concluded by moving for a copy of the minute of the
Lords of his Majesty's Treasury, by which the customs
duty payable on sugar brought to this country in discharee
of the 44- per cent. duties have not been paid since the
25th of March, 1928, and the authority under which such
exemption has been made.

•
The Duke of WELLINGTON said, that he did not
rise to oktect to this motion, but to express his sense of
the Noble Marquis's candour in not imputing any thing
improper to his Majesty's Government in making the re-
mission of which he cornplained. He would not now, as
the House had other business before it, enter into a history
of the four and a half per cent. duties. It was \veil known
that those duties wore paid in kind in the West Indies.
It was therefore clear, that the articles in whi,:h those
duties were so paid were the property of the Crown ; and
there could be no doubt that it was a constitutional prin-
ciple that the property of the Crown was not liable to pay
duty on importation into the country. He did not con-
' tend that it was always prudent to put that principle in
practice, but he did mean to contend that it was not.ii-
prudent to put it in practice in this case, because there
were peculiar eirc,rnstances attached to it, which Were
not likely to be finind in any other case. In the year 1825,
the Act of the 6th Geo. IV. was passed, which rendered
this fund of the four and a half per cent.. duties liable• to
the payment of certain stipends to the clergy in the,Wo4
Indies ; and that Act not only nquired that that; fund
shoW lus so applied, but also recog,niard its application to
tile salaries of certain officers in the Westln, and to
the payment of certain pessions, saying, in express words,
that after these were. paid, !he surplus of the fund NV,S.
to
be applied in defraying the ,tipends of the clergy. Under
these circumstances, he cor.teoded tat these funds. were

taken out of the hands of the Crown, were applied under
the control and superintendence of Parliament, and could
never be abused for any purposes whatever. The Noble
Doke then read a clause from the Act to support his view
of the subject. It was clear, he said, from the words of
that clause, that the fund was a public fund, and that it
could not be abused to any of the purposes which the
Noble Marquis supposed when he mentioned spices and cin-
namon. On these grounds he contended that the measure
stood entirely upon its own grounds, and that it could
never act injuriously as a precedent.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE made a few observa-
tions in reply, in which he repeated most of his former
asseverations. He contended that no ground had been
laid by the Noble Duke for overturning the practice of
170 years. If the sugars paid in lieu of these duties were,
as the Noble Duke stated them to be, public merchandise,
then, beyond all doubt, they ought to pay public duties.
He was induced to hope that this Session would not close
without Parliament providing a distinct regulation for the
application of these funds.—The motion was then
agreed to.
On the request of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, the
third reading of the Courts in Equity Improvement I3ill
was fixed for Wednesday, on the understanding that it
should be brought on at an early hour.
The House then proceeded to the examination of wit-
nesses in the East Retford case, which continued till a
Quarter-past Nine o'clock, when their Lordships adjourned.