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London, England, 1839-03-16 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, MARCH 15.
ROYAL ASSENT.
The Royal Assent was given to-day by Commission to
the Transfer of Aids Bill, and the Poor Relief (Ireland)
Amendment Bill. The Commissioners were the Archbishop
of Canterbury, the Lord Chancellor, and the Earl of Shaftesbury.
The House adjourned during pleasure.
The LOAD CHANCELLOR took his seat at Five o'Clock.
Lord HADDINGTON presented a petition from Notting-
ham, against the Beer Bill.
Lord RAYLEIGH presented petitions from a great many
places against any alteration in the Corn-laws.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from St.
Alban's against any alteration in the Corn-laws. Also a
petition from the Justices of the Peace of the county of Sussex,
praying for an alteration in the Beer-laws. _

Lord KINNOUL presented petitions from Perth and its
neighbourhood, praying for Church accommodation in Scotland.
Lcrd ROSEBERY presented petitions from Fifeshire,
Ktur.ss, and other places, against further endowments to the
Church of Scotland.

Lord BRADFORD presented a petition against any altera-
tion In the Corn-laws.

The Marquis of DOWNSHIRE presented petitions to the
same effect.

A Message from the House of Commons brought up the
Preston !tailway Act.
The Marquis of BUTE presented a petition from the Low
Chu, ch, parish of Kilmarnock, signed by upwards of 5,000 per-
sons, praying for Church Extension in Scotland ; also petitions
[ruin Maybole, Newtown upon Ayr, Drummond, Dumfrieshire,
and Argyleshire to the same effect.
Earl STANHOPE presented a petition from the county of
Kent, for an alteration in the Corn-laws.

Lord REDESDALE presented petitions from Cambridge-
sLiro, Lincolnshire, and 'Wexford against any alteration in the
Co:LI-laws ; also a petition praying that the Act for the Re-
t,itt:ation of Births and Marriages might be repealed.
GLASGOW CORN-LAW PETITION.
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Lord BROUGHAM said he had a petition before him—(the
petition was of an enormous size, and attracted universal
ob!ervation when it was carried by the officer of
the House to the Noble and Learned Lord's seat)—
on a vestioa of very great importance, and from the second
city, it he excluded Dublin, in the Empire—he meant the great
fmari-31ing City of Glasgow. It was the result of a great public
meeting, aed signed by no less than 43,000 persons—being by
far the greatest number that ever signed a petition which had
Peru presented to that House before from that city, or
kern any part of Scotland upon any question that had
:gitated the public. Indeed he was not aware of more than one
cr twa petitions that had ever come to that House from any
plAce. in England, signed by a greater number of persons. It
;13 on the euhjcet of the Corn-laws, and that subject had been
lidely under discussion that he should do no more,
'nt, than simply state that it prayed for an imme-
and entire repeal of the Corn-laws.—(Hear. )
The Noble and Learned Lord said that by the indulgence of
:dr. Wright, the Editor of the late most valuable work, the
" Memoirs of Lord Chatham," he had had an opportunity
of seeing a very important speech of Mr. Burke's, which,
- • it was as well a literary as a political curiosity, he would
1 to :their Lorthhips. It was made in the year 1770, and
not authenticated he thought it necessary to state
-Tits a very important blank running froml76B t 01774
amentary history of that period. There were no me-

at pees

moira whatever, except what he was going to state of the his-
tory of the Debates of either Home at that time. But Mr.
`.'right had succeeded in discovering a depositary, of which he
had ,btlined some information four years ago,and from which he
obtained four volumes of most valuable documents, most
aLly ;ill.l judiciously made up. They did not pretend to give
e‘or wo:1 a every speech, but adopted the best course, that of
Eqt:Oing out the best performances and giving accurately the best
I'a is of those speeches. This document was dated the 6th
of 1770, and it stated—J. Mr. Thomas Townshend
said, I shall give no opposition, but we are clearly not
ripe for the amendment." The amendment was to abolish
the then Corn-laws, the very question that was now
agkatinc; the country.—( Hear. ) "We are clearly not
r.l;e, for the amendment." Mr. Burke said—" Not ripe ! In
my opiMon we are ripe for the question till we are rotten.
There is no such thing as land interest separate from the leading
ioterest—what God has joined together let no man try to sepa-
'ate."—( Hear, hear.) "He who separates the interest of the
os4rner from the interest of the grower, starves this country."
'sr, hear, from both sides of the House.) The Noble and
,ed Lord was aware that both sides of the House might

'et; with this so far, but then Mr. Burke went on to say,

" Don't talk to me of a high price, or a low price
of bread--of encouraging or discouraging. the true price—
tho just price of corn is its natural price in the univer-
sal market of tin world, for it has no tendency to fluctuate,

t is your Corn-laws which will make it fluctuate.

( Hear. hear.) Now he could not but think it a remark-
able circumstance that this speech of Mr. Burke's should
have haen found just now a speech so much in
comirmation of the two propositions that had lately been urged
before their Lordships by his Noble Friend and himself. It
was an extraordinary circumstance that they should have
found the high and most unanswerable authority of this great
man in support of their propositions, who, it was always to be ob-
served, however he might have changed on other subjects,had
ro :i.gh out life particularly abided by one opinion on the subject of
the Corn-laws. The Noble and Learned Lord hoped that
some stain would be taken to enable Mr. Wright to pub-
lish the four volumes of documents to which he had
referred. As a matter of public utility and of national
utility this was to be desired. He was sorry to have been in-
formed that the encouragement heretofore held out for
the publication of those volumes had not been sufficient
to induce Mr. 'Wright to undertake it. He spoke now
ho Never in the presence of those who were able to appreciate what
ho stated, and he was sure that a subject more t'eaerving• of the
attention of her Majesty's Government could not be brought be-
fore it, nor could a better object be attained by any source of
encouragement.
Lord WICKLOW said, as the Noble and Learned Lord
had laid so much stress upon the opinion of Mr. Burke, he
• was anxious to recall to the recollection of the Noble and
Learned Lord (if that Noble and Learned Lord had ever be-
fore seem it) an opinion of another description of that
same very able statesman, which he (Lord W.) had
happened to meet with. Upon looking over some of the speeches of
Mr. Burke, published by Mr. Price, he ad found the following.
Their Lordships would recollect that the Noble and Learned Lord
had made his observations, and read his opinion from Mr Burke
upon the occasion of hii presenting a petition from the City of
Glasgow. Mr. Burke said—and this was on the subject of
the 'Corn-laws---" 'The cry of the people in cities and
towns, though unfortunately, from fear of their multitude
and combination, most regarded, ought in fact to be
the least attended to on this subject, for citizens are in a state of
utter ignorance of the means by which they are to be fed, and they
-contribute little or nothing except in a circuitous manner
to their own maintenance.—(Hear.) They arc fruges
consumere nati.' They are to be heard with great
respect in matters within their own province, that is in
trades and manufactures, but in anything that
relate; to agriculture, they ought to be listened to
with the same -deference which we pay to the dog-
mas of other ignorant and presumptuous men."—( Loud
cheers.) Now, this being a recorded opinion of Mr. Burke's,
he (the Noble Lord) begged to offer it as a set-off to the opinion
of Mr. Burke brought forward by the Noble and Learned Lord.
Lord BROUGAAM was obliged to the Noble Earl for giving
him an opportunity of setting him right. The fact was, that
what the Noble Earl had read was not an argument against him
at all. All Mr. Burke said was that the landed interest
and agricultural interest should be prevented from setting up
against each other, and he says that there is no affectation in this
nor no courting of vulgar opinion. He was not courting vulgar
opinion; and all he had heard on the other side with respect to
the prohibition of exportation, and there was not a poor porter
who read his paper on his bulkhead, who had not the same ideas
as those he heard on the present occasion. —( Hear, and laughter. )
The Noble Lord then presented petitions from Fife and Lan-
caster to the same effect. He had a petition from Chepstow, in
Monmouthshire, with a different import, praying for a reduction
of postage, and in favour of Mr. Rowland Hill's plan. The Noble
Lord then moved for a copy of the Report of the Committee on
Postage which had been laid on the lable of the other House.
—.Agreed to. _

After a few :words from Earl FITZ WILLIAM and the Earl
of WICKLOW in explanation, the conversation dropped.
CORN-LAWS.

Lord BROUGHAM then rose to submit the motion
of which he had given notice last night, or rather that
morning. He would simply submit his motion, considering
the present sitting a continuation of the last ; and
wishing their Lordships to consider all the arguments he
had used last night had been now used. He was anxious how-
ever that their Lordships' opinion on the subject should be re-
corded. The Noble and Learned Nord then moved that the
House do resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House to
tyke into consideration the Acts regulating the importation of
foreign corn.
Vi,,count MELBOURNE did not see that anything that had
passed last night should make any difference in the decision to
which their Lordships would come.
Lord BROUGHANI—Except that what had passed was the
strongest confirmation of his proposition, and exemplified the
necessity of inquiry, inasmuch as that no two Noble Lords were
agreed upon any one point connected with the subject.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and their Lordships
divided, when the numbers were—
Contents
Non- Contents 6l
Majority against the motion

Adjourned.

HOTIS&OF COMMONS, iILtAcH 15.
The SrE4ivufAook the chair shortly before Four o'Clock.
Mr. BELL bight in the Glasgow and Carlisle Extension
Rai:way Bill, Which was read a first and ordered to be read a
second time.

BANNERMAN brought in the Aberdeen Harbour
Bill, and the Aberdeen Market Bill ; which were read a first
and oril3red to be read a second time.
On the motion of Capt. PECHELL the Epsom Road Bill
was real a third time and passed.
The :►lalton Enclosure Bill was read a second time and or-
dered to be committed.

Mc. HOPE brought in the Birmingham and Gloucester
Railway 13i11, which was real'a first, and ordered to be read a
second time.

Mr. DUGDALE brought in tho Birmingham Canal Bill,
which was read a first, and ordered to be read a second time.
Mr. HODGES brought in the New Cross Road Bill, which
vvai read a first, aqd ordered to be read a second time.
Mr. BARNARD obtained leave to bring in a Bill to erect a
pier at Deptford.
Mr. PRINGLE brought in the Glasgow and Renfrew Road
Bill, which was read a first, and ordered to be read a second
time. •
On the motion of Sir H. FLEETWOOD, the Pre.ton
and Wire Railway Bill was read a third time and passed.
Lord GEORGE LENNOX presented a petition from a
parish iii Sussex, against the repeal of the Corn-laws.
Mr. WILBRAHAM presented a petition from the farmers
Of the Southern Division of Cheshire against any alteration in
the Corn-laws.

NORTIIEIIN AND EASTERN RAILWAY BILL.
The Report of the Committee on the Northern and Eastern
Railway Bill (No. 1.) was brought up ; the Committee found
that the Standing Orders had been complied with, and 'cave was
given to bring in the Bill.
CORN-LAWS.
Petitions were presented by Mr. Eaton from several parishes
in Rent; by Mr. York, from Cambridgeshire ; by Colonel
Ituith '
rook, from Somerset • by Mr. T. Palmer, from three
Parishes in ES3CX ; by Mr. W. Bennet, from Wilts.; by Mr.
PA4'eY, from Berkshire; and by Lord Granville Somerset, from
'oinnouthshire against any alteration in the present system of
Corn-laws. '
the PA GET presented a petition from Beaumaris, against
F.cclesiastica Duties and Revenues Bill.
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and S GRAHAM presented a petition from the Dean
__r 'flamer of Carlisle, to the same effect.
that the presented a petition from York, praying
, • min of spirituous liquors on the Lord's-day might be
pronibited ; also
the C
from the same place, against any
further t.,,•-,,,nt to the College of Maynooth.
Mr.
that so,.`,fie'ristßY presented a petition from Strabane, praying
i the' 'f the Presbyterian congregation might be allowed
to attend ir places of %y-orship, in the same wac as Protestant
and Ronan Catho_lic_spldiers were permitted to attend theirs.
Mr. G ALLY ANIGIIT presented petitiors from Nottin -
ham .gainst any
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