The Sun.
London, England, 1863-07-11 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY gvi?,NING, JULY 31, 1863.

LAW INTELLIGENCE—This Day

COURT OF CHANCERY.
(Before Vice-Chancellor Stuart.)
THE COUNTESS DE LA SETTA V. LORD VERNON.
This case has recently been heard in private, and in con-
sequence of the reference to the proceedings having been
made in the newspapers, called forth from the Vice-Chan-
cellor some very strong observations, the result of which
was that the case was ordered to be proceeded with in the
usual public manner, and this morning it stood on the
paper to be mentioned on motion or adjourned summons.
On the case being called on,
Mr. Melina said he had made certain suggestions to the
other side, and he would therefore ask that the motion
should stand over to a future day.
The Vice-Chancellor—Mr. Bacon is not present; some-
thing else has occurred.
Mr. Malins—l am not aware of anything.
The -Vice-Chancellor—Oh, yes; something else has oc.
cursed. Let the matter be mentioned when Mr. Bacon
comes into court.
Mr. Malins—l hope there is nothing that affects me.
The Vice-Chancellor—Oh, no ; but wait till Mr. Bacon
comes in-
The arguments in the next case, Cooper v. Gostling, were
then proceeded with.
On Mr. Bacon entering the court, his lordship stopped
the learned gentleman who was then addressing him.
The Vice-Chancellor (with great warmth)—Mr. Bacon,
you are counsel for Lord Vernon, are you not? I have
received a letter purporting to have come from Lord
Vernon ; it is dated from Brookes's Club, and
signed " Vernon," which, if not a forgery, as its
contents rather tend to show, is as gross a con-
tempt of court as ever was committed, and as gross an
insult to myself personally as ever was offered. I don't
know Lord Vernon. I have never seen him to my know-
ledge, and I must say when I read the beginning and end,
I thought it might have been written by him, but as it
commenced, " My dear Vice Chancellor," I must say I had
very great doubt about the matter. My object in addressing
you is to ask whether it is a genuine letter from Lord Ver-
non ; because if it is a forgery I shall deliver it to you, but
if, on the other hand, it should be a genuine letter, I shall
deliver it into the hands of Mr. Malins,
His Honour then handed a letter over to Mr. Bacon,
the solicitor to Lord Vernon (who was sitting in front of
the learned counsel, and immediately beneath the Vice-
Chancellor), on looking at the letter, said it was a forgery.
The Vice-Chancellor—You can state that on your oath.
Lord Vernon's solicitor—Yes, your Honour.
The Vice-Chancellor—lt is a part of a scheme I can
easily understand. No person, especially a peer, could
write such a letter to any Judge, and no man could fcrge
the name of another without a malevolent feeling.
Mr. Bacon was about to read the letter aloud, when
The Vice• Chancellor interposed, by saying--No, Mr.
Bacon, I will not allow it to be read. I never could believe
that a peer could address a letter to me beginning my dear
Vice-Chancellor. I cannot but again say it is one of the
greatest contempts and insults that has ever been offered to
a judge.
Mr. Malins—May I not see the letter ?
The Vice-Chancellor—No. Lord Vernon's name has
been forged, and my intention in giving it to Mr. Bacon is
to enable his lordship to take such steps as he may think
proper. If I had thought it a genuine communication I
should have delivered it to you (Mr. Malins) and also have
ordered Lord Vernon to have attended the court, and then
I would have committed him for contempt. As it is a
forgery, 1 merely place it in his hams in order that he
may take whatever steps he pleases.
Mr. Gray then prcceeded with his arguments in the case
of Cooper v. Gostling.

LAW INTELLIGENCE,-July 10.

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VICE• CHANCELLOR'S COURT.
(Before Vice Chancellor Stuart.)
LOUISE CHARLOTTE ANNETTE AGOSTINI VENEROSI, COUN-
TESS DE LA SETTA V. LORD VERNON.
Mr. Melina stated that the (.3ountesss had gone to Turin
to see one of her daughters, who was in a dying condition,
and his application to the Court was that she might have
all that free access to her children to which a mother under
such circumstances was entitled.
The Vice-Chancellor said he had observed that, although
the case was heard in private, it had been made public by
a vile and scurrilous press, and very severely commented
on such a proceeding. The Vice-Chancellor said he took
no notice, because he found that no injury resulted ; but
in consequence of the baseness of the conduct of the
person who did it, nothing but the contempt which is due
to such a person can save him.
Mr. Malins—l saw those observations in the newspaper,
and I made inquiry of my client.
The Vice-Chancellor--I want to hear no more. I will
have no explanation.
Mr. Bialins—Your honour has cast no imputation upon
me. Does your honour mean to say that I had anything to
do with the publication?
The Vice-Chancellor —I know nothing about it. You
never made any application.
Mr. Malins—ls it for me to make an appplication ? Does
your honour suppose that I have made a communication
to the public newspapers ?
The Vice-Chancellor—l know nothing about it but this,
that, from some base misconduct, for a malevolent purpose
against somebody, the thing was done.
Mr. Malins—Does your honour mean to impute that to
me?

The Vice-Chancellor—Oh, no.
Mr. Malins—l can tell your honour that I know nothing
directly or indirectly, of the mode in which it got into the
papers. I have inquired of my client, and he tells me this.
He says that he was waited upon.
The Vice-Chancellor—I will have no statement—the
thing is too contemptible.
Mr. ISlalins—Adow me as counsel to make this state-
ment.
The Vice-Chancellor—You have no instructions.
Mr. Malins—Yes, I have. Mr. Collette, who is present,
tells me he was waited upon by a variety of representatives
of the public press.
The Vice-Chancellor—l will not hear anything of the
representatives of the public press. The press is too con-
temptible. I shall not permit it to be mentioned. I desire
to hear no more of it.
Mr. Malins—l really cannot be silent.
The Vice-Chancellor—You have no instructions, I cast
no imputation upon you. From y,,ur rank and position,
and my respect for your character, I know that you are ut-
terly incapable of any such thing; but there are creatures
about the court who are base enough and contemptible
enough for such a thing.
Mr. Malins—l know not who they are.
The Vice-Chancellor—They are beneath contempt.
Mr. Malins—On the part of my client I beg to state that
he disclaims all knowledge, directly or indirectly.
The Vice-Chancellor—Let him disclaim it. You say
that he was waited on by a representative of the press. I
want to hear no more about it.
Mr. Collette—Most ctstlnctly I do disclaim it. I think
the observations the Court has made upon a solicitor of the
court are very improper, and to prevent a solicitor being
heard in defence of his own character is a thing that I shal
l
not submit to. I have neither directly nor indirectly given
information. Persons have been to my office endeavour-
ing to bribe my clerks, and I gave orders to refuse all infor-
mation, and I have refused information. I think it is very
improper that the court should make imputations on the
character of a solicitor, and then say he is not to be heard in
public in his defence.
The Vice-Chancellor—Who says you are not to be heard ?
I objected to your being heard by Mr. Malins. lam ready
to hear you.
Mr. Collette—The expression " base" ought not to be
applied to any officer of the court.
The Vice-Chancellor—Whoever published that published
it from the basest motives, and for a malevolent purpose.
Mr. Collette—lf your honour does not apply those ob-
servations to me, I have nothing more to say; but I will
not have such observations made of me. I state publicly
that I have had nothing to do with it.
Mr. Malins—As counsell am acquitted, and my client is
acquitted.
Mr. Collette—The yublic records can be seen for a shil-
ling—every body can see them.
The Vice-Chancellor—The whole thing is contemptible.
Mr. Collette—Such observations I will not submit to
from you, or from any judge in the kingdom.
The Vice-Chancellor—The whole matter is much too
contemptible. What I rejoice at is, that no injury has been
done by such base misconduct.
Mr. Malins—My application is this. Without entering
into the merits of the matter, she is the mother of three
children, who have spent all their lives with her. They are
separated from her. Mr. White, of the firm of White,
Broughton, and White, the morning before yesterday, pro-
duc'd to Mr. Bacon, and showed it to me, a telegram in the
French language, that the second daughter was almost in a
dying state. It is from them I heard it. This was after-
wards communicated to Mr. Collette, and my advice was,
considering the delicate situation of the lady, she could not
do anything until the matter had been communicated. 4
The Vice-Chancellor--I do not understand your appli-
cation. What do you wish ?
Mr. Melina— I wish this ; that the lady, on arriving at
Turin, where probably she has now arrived, should have
a distinct intimation that she may have unrestricted inter-
course with her children. That is all I ask.
-Ir.
The Vice-Chancellor—That is a matter for chambers;
and the whole case is one, as far as the benefit of the partix:-0
interested isa
sc ohnecaerrdn eadn,yfor h
anywhere
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thauti chambers,
adjustment. ny this
ex-
ceptw
for the purpose of the =unties of somebody, I have
no notion. If your client comes by a summons in cham-
bers, as would be done in 074 other cause, the summons
would do the 001`,1,
Mr, Manna-I\ly application is of a very simple nature.
The lady wants to have free intercourse with her dying
daughter, (The case was then adjourned to chambers.)
The Vice-Chancellor—l will tell you why I disapprove
of the publicity of these applications. It seems too much
as if the case was one in which the object was to get, by

public exposure, some money to NO.:jell:this lady, merely
upon her private right, could not be entitled.

Mr. Malins—l deny that this is 611,:h a case.

The Vice. Chancellor—l do not say that it was with
that view, but the course that your client instructed you
to take when he desired Sou to cppose the case being heard
in private has exactly that appearance. There is not
anything here to distinguish it from any case of infants.
In all branches of the court the same course is taken•
The Master of the Rolls took the same course the other
day. Whenever there is an attempt, by exposure and
publicity, to extort money to which there is not a very good
right in any other way, there is ono course taken. In a case
before the Master of the Rolls there was an opposition to its
being heard in private. Why ? Either for a malevolent pur-
pose to give pain to somebody, or in the hope that that
person, to escape the pain to be expected from a public
hearing, would submit to what was asked. And after all,
what would the public hearing of this cas.: have amounted
to? I was apprehensive that it might have ended in a
disclosure of something extraordinary. Any man who
looked on this case would .see that it was a case eminently
fit to be dealt with in the ordinary way, and according to
the ordinary course ; and what I regret is that there should
have been any such exhibition as has taken place, in conse-
quence of going out of the ordinary course on this occasion.

Mr. Malins—This bill is not one of the class described
by your Honour. It is not filed to extort money. It is a
very proper suit, and it was inevitable. As your Honour
seems rather, from the tone of your observations, to blame
the course I have taken—

The Vice-Chancellor—l do not blame you at all ; you
were instructed.

Mr. Malins—That being the case, your Honour will
allow me to say this. 1 was instructed by a firm who, I
believe, are as respectable as any gentlemen in the profes-
sion—Messrs. Pritchard and Collette--
The Vice-Chancellor—l know them to be so. I have
known them for years.

Mr. Malins—And as incapable of taking advantage of
any circumstance of that kind for extorting money from
a client as any professional men with whom I have ever
come in contact. I had no instructions to act, and I
have no desire to act, in such a spirit. I trust your honour
will distinctly understand from me, as a member of the pro-
fession, stating the instructions I received from Mr. Col-
lette, that neither do I know by what weans those publica-
tions took place, nor does Dr. Collette, and that therefore
the publications are not connected with me or with.
The Vice-Chancellor—lt is quite plain what was the ob-

ject of the publication. The object either was a pecuniary
purpose or a malevolent purpose—either to extort money
from Lord Vernon or to give pain.
Mr. Malins—l believe I may state to your honour that

the publication has not been connected with the countess or
anybody connected with her. Nobody in London knows her
but Mr. Collette and her French agent, who is here. I
have never seen the lady myself, but my friend Mr
Stevens has. It is not from anybody connected with her
that the publication took place.
The Vice-Chancellor—l think that every consideration
is due to the mother's situation, and when, in consideration
of that, I suggested the other day that money should be
advanced to the mother, I found no unwillingness to do it.
I think, Mr. Matins, you cannot say there was any unwil-
lingness on the part of the other side to do :all that hu-
manity and justice required.
Mr. Malins—l am bound to say that they showed a great
unwillingness, and that if it had not been for your honour's
intimation, we should not have got a penny. I got it from
your honour, and not from them.
The Vice-Chancellor--I am sorry to hear that.
Mr. Collette—There is not the slightest doubt about it.
Mr. Matins —I gave them the opportunity when the
motion was first made. I told my friend, "I do not desire
to menticn this case, only let the poor lady have a
little money to go on with;" and the reply I received was,
"Not a farthing." _ _

The Vice-Chancellor—lt is a very plaln case now. All
the apprehension that injury would result from a public
hearing has gone by, and it reduces itself to this : That
this lady being entitled under a trust deed to a provision of
a very large amount, she must have her rights respected
and protected by the court. Her infant children have
also a right; and in the order that was made it seemed
to me that the purposes of justice and humanity and
everything were answered.
Mr. Malins—The case is ordered to come on on Saturday,
and I shall ask that it may be heard in public ; and my
application will be to increase the lady's allowance from
£4OO to £7OO a year, because the deed provides that the
maximum amount to the children shall be £lOO a year each.
The Vice-Chancellor—That will be discussed on Satur-
day, and in public.
Mr. Malins—Certainly.
The Vice-Chancellor--It is a pity that the public should
not have the full benefit of the case.
Mr. Malins—l have had two cases in private before your
honour lately. One was a case of a celebrated singer; that
was immediately published in a well-known London paper,
how nobody knows.
The Vice-Chancellor—The awful mystery, if it were not
too contemptible to be worth investigation, an investiga-
tion would very soon disclose. I deprecate all investi-
gation upoa such subjects.
Mr. Russell—l understand that the case is to be in the
paper to-morrow.
The Vice-Chancellor—lts dignity and importance require
that.

MARKETS—This Day.

MARK LANE.

LONDON AVERAGES for the Week ending July 7:—
Wheat. 2,347 qrs., average 48s 6d—Beans, 9 qrs., average
34s—Peas, 3 qrs., average 60s.

COVENT GARDEN.

Full average supplies of fruit and vegetables are on sale,
Most descriptions are in slow request, at the annexed cur.
rencies :

FRUIT.

15. d. B d
Cherries, per lb. 0 3to 0 8
Foreign ditto, pun° oto 0 0
Filberts, per lb • . 2 oto 2 6
Walnuts, per 100 0 oto 0 0
Cobnuts, per lb .. 0 oto 0 0
Almonds, per bus 0 oto 0 0
Figs, per doz. • • 0 oto 0 0
Peaches.... ...... 15 0 to 30 0
Currants, per h.sv 4 6to 6 0
Plums, per do. • • 0 oto 0 0
Greengages, pr do. 0 oto 0 0
Raspberries,prpt 0 3to 0 6
VEGETABLES.
Shallots, per lb .. 0 6to 0 8
Horseradish, pdn 1 oto 2 0
Parsley, per ditto 0 3to 0
Celery, per ditto 0 oto 0 0
Beet, per doz. .. 1 6to 2 0
Parsnips, per do. 0 oto 0 0
Small salad. p. pn, 0 2to 0 3
Mushrooms,p ptl. 1 oto 1 3
Artichokes, each 0 oto 0 0
Cos lett, score .. 0 Bto 0 10
Mint and savory..o 3to 0 4
Endive, per score 0 oto 0 0
Radishes, dz hnds 0 6to 0 8
Tomatoes, doz... 0 oto 0 0
Chillies, per ditto 0 oto 0 0
Capsicums, per do 0 oto 0 0
Rhubarb, per bun 0 3to 0 6
Asparagus, pr do. 2 oto 4 6
Seakale, per bun. 0 oto 0 0

s. d. s. d.
Pine apples 7 oto 8 0
Colonial do., each 0 oto 0 0
Grapes,per lb 3 oto 6 0
Foreign do 1 6to 2 6
Melons . . 0 oto 0 01
Nectarines, per dz 10 0 to 18 0
Apples, per hf-sv. 5 oto 4 0
Pears, per do .... 0 oto 0 0
Oranges, per 100 6 oto 12 0
Lemons, per 100.. 9 oto 12 0
Gooseberries hi sve3 oto 4 0
Strawberries pr pt 0 3to 0 6

Greens, dz bunch 1 9to 2 01
Cabbag,es, pr doz 0 9to 1 3
lind ditto 0 oto 0 0
Savoy do., pr dz 0 oto 0 0
Cauliflowers, pdz 0 9to 2 0
Brocoli, per bus. 0 oto 0 0
Potatoes, per tonl2o to 130 0
New ditto, pr lb ..0 2to 0 4
Turnips, dz bunch 3 oto 4 0
Carrots, pr do 4 6to 5 6
Cucumbers 0 2to 1 3
Garlic, per lb
Sorrel, per sieve 0 oto 0 0
Green peaP,h.-sv. 1 oto 1 6
Brus. sprouts,h.s. 0 oto 0 0
Onions, doz. bn.. 1 oto 1 6
New Do., dz bun 1 oto 1 6
Spinach o 6to 0 8
Turnip radishes 0 sto 0 8

POULTRY.
Turkeys, Os Od to Os Od ; geese, 4s Od to 6s 6d each ;
goslings, 3s Od to 4s Od; ducks 2s Od to 4s Od; ducklings,
2s Od to 4s Od; rabbits, is Od to is 9d each; wild do., is
to Os Od ; pigeons, Os 6d to Os 10d each; Surrey fowls,
9s Od to 13s Od ; chickens, Os Od to 75 Od • barn-door fowls,
3s Od to 6s Od; capons, Os Od ; hares, 2s 6d to Os Od ;
ptarmigan, Os Od to Os each ,• pheasants, Os Od to Od ;
partridges,Os Od to Os Od ; woodcocks, Os to Os Od ; snipes, Os
to Os Od; teal, Os Od to Os Od ' • wild ducks, Os Od to Os Od ;
widgeons, Os Od to Os Od ;
' plovers Os Od to Os Od each;
guinea fowls, Os Od to Os Od • roasting pigs, Os 0d to Os '‘'id
each ; Ostend fresh butter, 9d to Os lld ; . lld
to is Id per lb ; English eggs, 7s 6d to 88 Od ; r rench do.,
58 Od to Os 6d per 100 ; leverets, 2s Od to 4-11 Od each.

BILLINGSGATE.
Salmon, Os 10d to is 3d ; trout, o',l to Os • eels, 5d to 10d ;
prawns, Os ; skate, 4d to 6d ; sturgeon, and halibut, Od per
lb. ; turbots, 2s Od to 12s ; cod, 2s Od to 4s Od ; brills, is Od
to 5s Od; doreys, is Od to 7s Od ; mullets, Os 6d to is 6d;
lobsters, 6d to 2s 6d; crabs, 6d to 2s 6d • plaice and gurnets,
Od to Os Od each; soles, 6d to 2s 3d' per pair ; common
oysters,—s to —s ; natives, —s to —s per bushel ; whitings,
bs Od to lOs ; haddocks, 4s to 12s ; smelts, es Od to Os Od;
flounders, Os Od per dozen ; mackerel, 40s per 100 ; fresh
herrings, Gs per 100 ; bloaters, Os to Os per 100 ; carp and
tench, Os Od to Os per brace.

NEWPORT.
Beef, from 3s Od to 4s 4d ; mutton, 3s 6d to 4s 6d ; lamb,
5s Od to is 8d; veal, 3s 10d to 4a 8d; and pork, 33.6 d to
48 8d per 81bs. by the carcase.

WHITECHAPEL
Beef, from 3s 2d to 4s 2d ; mutton, 3s 4d to 4s 4d; lamb,
4s 10d.to 5s 8d ; veal, 3s 8d to 4s 4d ; and pork, 38 6d to
4s 8d per 81bs by the carcase.

BREAD.
The prices of wheaten bread in the metropolis are from
71d to Bd, of household do., 51d to 7d per 41b loaf.
HIDES AND SKINS.
Market hides, 561 b to 641 b, 24d to 3d ; 641 b to 721 b, 3d
to 31d ; 721 b to 801 b, 3d to 34d ; 801 b to 881 b, aid to 44d ;
881 b to 961 b, 4d to 4id ; 961 b to 1041 b, Od to Od ; 1041 b to
1121 b, Od to Od. Horse hides, 10s Od to 12s 0d ; calf skins,
light, 2s Od to 4s Od ; full, 78 Od to Os Od ; wooded skins, Os
Od to Os Od ; halt•breds, Os Od to Os Od ; Downs, Os Od to
Os Od; lambs, 2s Od to 4s 6d; shearlings, 2s 2d to 2s Gd.