The Sun.
London, England, 1839-06-25 00:00:00

corrected the mistake, and wrote an order at the foot of the
letter—" Mr. Bristow, please deliver the above; Messrs.
Carne have advised me about it. Signed L. Caspar." At
that time the letter was in the same state it is now ; having
Bona this he gave witness the letter back, and told witness he
was to go to the wharf and inquire for Mr. Bristow, Dublin
Steam Wh trf, Iron-gate, whose address he wrote down. He
(Caspar) would be there as soon as he would, and that
he would ;save to write an acknowledgment, to which witness
was to sign, in a manner which Lewin mentionid to him, but
which he has now forgotten. Witness went first to Bread-
street, Cheapside, to deliver some goods of his master's, and
then went onto the wharf. He left his cab at the corner of

King William-street, and then got a fresh cab in Cheapside,
and went in that to the wharf, and thinks he inquired for Mr.
Hartley. L. Caspar was not there. He saw Mr. Bristow, who
came to him in the cab, he gave Mr. Bristow the letter produced.
Witness got out of the cab, went into the office, and received
two boxes, which were put into the cab. Witness wrote a re-
ceipt for them, and signed the name Marsh, as he thinks ; be-
cause he had seen the name on some part of the letter, having
forgotten the name he had been desired to sign. The receipt
was signed " Received the above, J. H. Dunn, per Marsh-
Esq." Witness put one of the boxes into the bag, which was
not large enough to contain both. He then drove to Wood,
street, Cheapside. The boxes were put in by the porter. He
gave the porter a shilling. Witness i'rove to the Cross Keys,
and the porters came about him, took the boxes out of the
cab, and put them into the office. Ellis Caspar was not there.
lie called another cab, and got into it; the boxes were put in
also, and he drove to the London Hospital, Whitechapel-road,
which is at the corner of the street where witness lives. He
took one of the boxes home—the one in the bag—and put it in
a closet in the hed-room. He then came out to fetch
the other, and as he was going up the street
towards the cab, he met Ellis Caspar, who asked
him what he had done with the boxes. Witness told him,
and asked him to fetch the other from the cab. He
said he would not, and that witne s had done wrong in bringing
the cab so near his own house. He desired him to detain the
cab for an hour, and drive away to some other place,
and take the box out, and bring it to his own house,
but not to take it out so near. Witness had not suffi-
cient money to pay the cab, but went home and got some
silver. Went into the cab, and drove to the iron bridge
in the Commercial-road, and then discharged the cab.
He came back by an omnibus, bringing the hoe with
him. He got down at the corner of Turner-street, some little
distance from his house. 11c carried the box borne, and placed
it with the first. He then went out, and returned about eight
o'clock. He had tea, and went to the Earl St. Vincent
public-house. He had a female servant, named Jane
Bradley, living with him at the time. She fetched him
from the public-house, and on going home he found Ellis
Casper there in the front part of the house. He asked
what had been done with the boxes, and witness to'd him
that they were in his bed-room. He seemed much alarmed,
and witness asked him the reason ? He sold witness the boxes
contained gold; and that they must be got out 'of his place. lie
seemed mush alarmed. He desired witness to tell his wife to
send away the servant. Witness said he had assurances that
there was no harm coming to him in consequence of what he
had done. lie replied that the officers were on the look out,
and that they had information which he was fearful would lead to
witness being discovered. The servant was sent away. Caspar
desired witness to leave that house by all means. Witness said
he could not, as he had not given his landlord notice, and there
were two quarters' rent due that day. Caspar said witness
must sacrifice everything and go, anti if he would meet him
next night, he would supply him with what money he wanted;
this was about 11 o'clock in the evening. After the servant had
left witness, his wife and Ellis Caspar were left in the house.
Witness allowed Ellis Caspar where the boxes were in his bed-
room, each brought one down stairs into the back parlour ; they
were made of darkish deal; there was a seal on all four sides ;
the lid of one was broken open by Ellis Caspar with a chisel in
order, as he said, to divide the contents to make it more
convenient to carry away ; the box was simply nailed
together like a packing box. On opening the box there
was a quantity of hay, underneath which was a tin box
a good deal smaller the outside cover. Ellis. Caspar raid
that as it was so small there was n 9 occasion to divide it, he
would take it as it was. The other box was opened in the same
way, and the outside. cases were both thrown on the fire by
Ellis Caspar, and burned. Caspar did not stay until they were
consumed, he took away the hay in his handkerchief—he left the
tin boxes in the room and witness took them up stairs ; whilst
these things were burning witness was seized with spasms,
to which he is subject, this was about day-break, and after that he
went up stairs to bed, and in the morning, while his wife was
out he opened one of the tin boxes, and found it contained va-
rious lumps of apparently different colours, round lumps of ore,
of various sizes, some as large as a moderate sized orange and
others smaller. He replaced them in the box, and wrapped
each box in brown paper, and put each in a separate trunk and
corded one of them and locked the other. He believes one of
the trunks belonged to his daughter. He removed the next day
(Tuesday) to Mansell-street. The plate was taken off his door
before day-light at the suggestion of Ellis Casper. Ellis Caspar left
at 1 or 2 o'clock in the morning. The boxes were sent in the trunks
to the lodgings in Mansell-street. Met Ellis Caspar at the Horse
Guards, on Thursday evening, by appointment; told what had
been done with the boxes, who said they must be got out of
witness's place. Caspar refused to come and take them, as
Lewin was already suspected, and he expected his house
to be searched. He desired witness to tell his sister
Sarah Levy to get a lodging and represent herself as
a nurse ; she was to get a trunk, and witness was to
put the gold dust into the trunk, and not to tell her what
the boxes contained, and witness was to write a direction, to be
fastened to the trunk to be sent to Bath, to be left until called
for, when Caspar would go down and fetch them. Witness
was to meet him on Thursday on the Southwark-bridge, when
Caspar was to give him what money he required ; he then gave
him only one sovereign. On his return to his lodgings witness
took the boxes out of the trunks, and put them into a side dress-
ing-room. On that afternoon he received a letter from Ellis Cas-
par, in consequence of which he went to the Horse Guards at
nine o'clock, and saw Ellis Caspar, who asked if he had got
away the gold dust? He told him no. Caspar said witness
must have some.design, or he would not have kept it so long.
Witness said he did not know what to do with, and refused to
implicate his sister, as he had already gone too far in it. He
said witness must venture his life to take it away himself, and
that witness must get out of_ the way. He would take
care of his family, and was to meet him the next day
He told witness there was WO/. reward offered for him, and
that he was very nearly described. He gave witt.ess W. lie
called on witness next morning in Marshall-street. There
were other persons living in the house. Witness went out
and met him on the landing. He whispered to witness, and
asked if he had got it away. Witness told him " Yes." He
told him so, because he was afraid of his coining to his
place. Caspar told him that the last cab he had been
in the man had given a boy something to follow him home;
he gave witness a piece of paper and went down stairs, and said,
very loud, " I will have my watches done or not." The paper
produced is the paper—(the paper was then read, desiring to
see his wife instead of himself, and telling him not to stop in his
place, but to go to his mother-in-law, and shape any good
excuse, as this day they were determined to make a
finish) ; he told witness, when he handed him the paper, that
his wife was to see him instead of himself. Witness went out
almost directly, and met his sister coming to his apartments;
told her about the parcels ; she lived in Petticoat-lane. He
then went to Coventry-court to Davis's ; Davis is his father-
in-law—married his wife's mother; went there to be con-
cealed. 'fold him what he had done. Davis had a house in
Oxendon-street, to which he took witness, and placed him in an
uoperroom,whei e he remained from the Thursday to the Tuesday.
The gold dust was brought to him there the next day, or the
day after he arrived, by Davis ; it was in paper, having been
taken out of the boxes; it was placed in a cupboard at the head
of the stairs, next to the room where witness was. Witness
locked the cupboard and put the key in his pocket. The
Monday following was Easter Monday, and 'Davis and Alice
Abrahams, the prisoner, came to him. Davis told him that
his (witness's) house had been searched, and the gold
must be got away, as he expected his house would be
searched. They each took a parcel of the gold dust away.
The pieces of paper in which the metal was wrapped, were
removed and burned by witness before they came. They
came a second time, and each took some on both occasions.

He slept that night at the same place, the next morning Davis
came to him very early and in consequence of what passed,
witness went to Brentford and came back to London that night,
and met Davis at Hyde Park-corner by appointment. They
went to Lincoln's-inn-fields, and left witness; he returned
with Mrs. Abrahams, the priEoner, in a quarter of an hour.
Witness told Mrs. Abrahams he understood the gold had
been sold for 2,000/. and observed that he thought
it was very little. She said she (lid not understand it, that she
bad given all that had been given for it, and had not been paid
anything, and that she had not had the means of procuring the
money for witness. He lodged that night in a court in Drury-
lane. Davis had procured him that lodging. He came to wit-
ness the following morning, and he met him again at night.
He went and returned with Mrs. Abrahams. Witness
waited for them in a coffee-shop in the neighbourhood of
the Strand, and they all then went to Peckham in a coach.
He there found a lodging prepared for him, where lie remained
a fortnight, and where he was frequently visited by Mrs. Abra-
hams and Davis. While at Peckham he went to a Mr.
Robinson's heuse with Davis. Had not formerly known Mr.
Robinson. Found Mrs. Abrahams there. Nothing was
given to him on that occasion. Went there twice ; Mrs.
Abrahams was there on both occasions. Remembers Sun-
day, the 14th of April. Went with Davis to Mr. Robinson's
tor the second time ; had on two occasions given information
on that subject ; up to that time had had no bank notes in his
possession. Nobody was with Davis and he in the coach on
that Sunday. He received fifteen notes from Mr. Davis. M, s.
Abrahams was not present ; had not received any thing before
except a sovereign from Davis, which he used to pay his lodg-
ings. When he got to Robinson he produced the notes; deli-
vered them to Robinson ; they were given him by Davis on his
way ; then he gave to Robinson all he had received from Davis.
He received them back from Robinson on the following Wed-
nesday, in the passage of the New Inn, opposite this place. Mrs.
Abrahams was present when witness gave the notes to Robin-
son. There was on that occasion an I 0 U with the notes.

Rowe, the officer, produced the 15 notes and the I 0 U, and
stated them to be the same that witness had handed to him.

The I 0 U was read—it was, ‘. I 0 U I,Bo7l.—signed
H. H. S " Had seen Lewin Casper twice between November
and March, once at a coffee- shop in Lombard-street ; they
went to another in Great Tower-street ; this was about three
weeks before the transaction ; he met him by appointment, by
letter ; he always returned Lewin Casper the letters he re-
ceived from him. Caspar said he thought he should have wanted
him at Christmas. Lew'n Caspar was known by the person 'she
kept the shop. Caspar seemed annoyed, and said he would not
have gone there if ho had thought he should have been known.
Witness lost a handkerchief on that occasion, and mentioned
the circumstance to Lewin Caspar. The one now produced is
the one he so lost. Lewin Caspar showed him a letter on
Sunday, 24th March, purporting to come from Dublin. The
letter produced is the one. It was shown witness at his house.
Lewin Caspar asked him for such papers as he had of his. Wit.
ness gave him, amongst others, the letter that has been pro-
duced to-day.
Cross-examined by Mr. Sergeant Bost rA s, on behalf of the
prisoner Moses—Davis told witness that he (Davis) had de-
stroyed the boxes. Mrs Abrahams was present when he said
so on one occasion. Was mistaken when he said he had never
said so in Mrs. Abrahams' presence. He told witness that he
had been to Mrs. Levi's and brought away the gold from there.
Dees not know whether Robinson was present or nor. Can-
not state the exact part of the conversation that ook place
between himself and Mrs. Abrahams in Robinson's presence.
Thinks the conversation took place at Robinson's. He was
token there by Davis. He had written an account of the
transaction to be sent to Mr. Robinson, and went there to be
more particular. There was some negociation going on at that
time. It was stated in Robinson's presence that Davis had
destroyed the boxes. Witness went to Hertford on the morning
of Tuesday the 2d of April. All the gold had been taken away
from his house the night previously. Saw Davis that morn-
ing, and again in the evening.
By Mr. Puff.f.irs for the Caspars—His wife, his sister, and
himself have been taken up on this business. Davis, his wife's
father-in-law, has not been taken up, bt cause he has gone
away. His father-in-law, whose name was Cohen, died in
London : he believed he had been a traveller. He had not
been to Botany Bay. Never heard he was tried for any thing.
Left the Caspars because lie could not earn a sufficiency tu main-
tain his family. The name of Mrs. Davis's first husband
was Lazarus. Never heard he had been sent to Botany Bay.
Hardly knows how Davis gets his living. Thinks the house he
hid himself in was a house of ill-farne. The first house he
went to was one of the same kind. Mr. Ellis Caspar sug-
gested he should go there. Believes Davis had various m can
of getting his living. Has no doubt ice gets a portion of his
living by keeping brothels. Caspar gave him a note to take