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Message urging Parliament to its consideration, he
thought there was a chance of its being fully considered
cn Monday.—(Laughter.)
The Marquis of WESTMINSTER wished to ex-
press his dissent from the statement of his Noble and
Learned Friend as to the poverty of the beer-house
keepers. On the contrary, he knew that there was
often capital to the amount of 3004 invested in this
trade.

Lcrd BROUGHAM observed that, then the Noble
Marquis's beer-houses must bed a superior description.
—(A laugh.)
Earl STA NHOPE rose with great eagerness, and
asked if the Noble and Learned Lord would have any
objection to refer the Bill to a Select Committee to
hear evidence, before he proceeded to confiscate a large
amount of property, and ruin numbers of unoffending
individuals ?

Lord BROUGHAM said he was surprised that the
Noble Earl should have allowed the proper time for
hearing evidence, the second reading, to pass by : and
afterwards see the Bill referred to a Select Committee,
when he might have moved an enlargement of that
Committee's powers to enable them to hear evidence ;
refuse to attend that Committee, and then come
down upon the third reading, and ask that,
evidence be heard. Surely this was the " dilatory"
system with a vengeance.---( Hear, and a laughter.)
Earl STAN HOPE went on to complain of some
statements of the Poor-law Commissioners, ,which he
chraracterised as false and incredible. Part of tho L-e
statements were, that the highways of the country were
in such a state, that no person could pass them with
safety. And this was the ground of their application for
a rural police.

After a few observations from the Marquis of
WESTMINSTER,
Lord BROUGHAM said that the statements of the
Noble Lord with respect to the Report cast a stigma
upon a deserving individual which he did not merit.
He believed that that individual was as incapable
of putting his name improperly to documents as
any Member of their Lordships' House.—(Cheers.)
The fact was, the Noble Lord had been led away by a
name.

Lord ELLENBOROUGH thought that the Noble
and Learned Lord, if he had read the Report,
would have been of opinion, as all that had read
it had been, that it contained a great quantity
of valuable material. The great objection he had to
the Report was its intolerable length. It was too vo-
luminous to be read generally by the public.
Earl STANHOPE said, that he had not pre-
tended to give an opinion upon the Report
without reading it, but having read it he would
venture to assert that it stated that which was false.
The Earl of RADNOR thought it was too much for
the Noble Lord to designate a public document as he
had done. •

Lord FALMOUTH begged their Lordships to re-
collect that the present system was only eight or nine
years old, for the Bill had passed in the year 1830.
He had then opposed it ; and a Noble Duke who had
also opposed it with great power, had stated what the
results would be, as they had actually occurred. He
believed the publicans had been sacrificed, and that
great injustice had been perpetrated on them, while
their arguments had been little attended to. He
believed in his conscience that much of the mischief
that now existed throughout the country, and much of
the bad spirit that prevailed originated in the Beer-
shops. He hoped another Session would not be al-
lowed to pass without some remedy being applied to
that monstrous evil.

The Marquis of WESTMINSTER made a remark
which did not reach the gallery.
The Earl of MAL MES BURY was certain that Col.
Rowan would not attach his name to any document
which he did not believe to ,be perfectly correct. He
was a distinguished officer in her Majesty's service, and
had filled one of the most important offices in the me-
tropolis, with the greatest credit to himself.--(Hear.)
Lord STANHOPE had no doubt that the reports
were made from facts stated, but he again repeated that
the inferences were notoriously false.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE believed three
persons more eminently qualified could not have been
found than the three individuals selected, from their
known talents, their acquaintance with facts, and their
unquestionable integrity, to make such a Re
port us would bespeak the confidence of Par-
liament. He bed never seen a Report more
especially and particularly bottomed upon inquiries
than the present. This was a testimony which it was the
duty of the Government to bear to the individuals em-
ployed, who had discharged their duty in a way satisfac •
torily to the Government, and also, he believed, satisfac-
torily to the public.
The amendments were then agreed to, and Monday
next was fixed for the third reading of the Bill.
Lord BROUGH AM fixed Friday next for the se-
cond reading of his Education Bill.
The House adjourned at a Quarter past Six until
Thursday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Jumm 11.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.
• CARLOW ELECTION.
Mr. GROTE, the Chairman of the Carlow Election
Committee, appeared at the Bar, and reported that the
Committee had .met that morning at eleven o'clock, and
that they had received a letter from Mr. Protheroe, one
of the Members of the Committee, informing them that
in consequence of an accident he could not attend, where-
upon the Committee adjourned till to-morrow.
A gentleman named Johnson, the medical attendant
upon Mr. Protheroe, was called to the bar, and stated,
in answer to questions by the SPEAKER, that Mr.
Protheroe had that morning ruptured certain muscles
of the leg in running up stairs, and was by the accident
incapacitated from attending the Committee.
On the motion of Mr. GROTE, Mr. Protheroe was
excused from further attendance on the Committee ;
and the Committee were empowered to sit without him.
COODE'S DIVORCE BILL.
The Rouge then went into Committee en this Bill,
in support of which Mr. Sergeant Merewether appeared.
No Ccunsel appeared on the other side. Witnesses
were examined in proof of the marriage and the adultery.
Counsel and witnesses were then ordered to withdraw,
and the Bill was reported.
• CARLETON'S DIVORCE BILL.
The House then went into Committee on Carleton s
Divorce Bill. Mr. Austin appeared for Mr. Carleton,
and stated the case to the House, and then proceeded to
call witnesses, who proved the marriage of the parties
and the adultery, together with the proceedings in the
Ecclesiastical Courts.
The witnesses having given their evidence in a very
inaudible manner,
Mr. D. W. HARVEY wished to know in what cha-
racter they sat there in such cases? If they sat as
Judges, he must protest against giving any decision, as
he had not heard one syllable of the evidence which had
been given.---(Hear, hear.)
The preamble was then declared to be proved, and
the House resumed.
The Report on the Manchester and Birmingham Rail-
way was brought up.
The Report of the Committee on the Preston and
Wyre Railway was brought up.
Sir E. WI umoT moved the further consideration of
the Report of the Committee on the Birmingham Canal
Bill.