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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, JuLr 14.
The SPEAKER took the chair -at Four o'Clock.
A person from the Office of Woods and Forests pre-
sewed papers.
Mr. BATES presented returns from the Masters of the
Exchequer.
Mr. Campbell,- from the Eas't, India House, presented
despatches respecting the Burmese prize money.
Lord SANDON brought up the 4cport upon the Mar-
quis of Butes' Estate Bill, which was read a third time and
passed.

Oa the motion of Mr. BROTHER'FON, the Lords'
amendments to the Bolton and Preston Railway were
agreed to.

- Upon the motion of the same HON. MEMBER, the Lords'
amendments on the Bristol Cemetery Bill were agreed to,
Sir W. MOLESWORTH presented a petition from
the Under Graduates of Cambridge, praying for a Reform
in the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge. The Hon.
Baronet gave notice that should he have the honour of a
seat in the House in the next Session, it was his intention
to introduce a Bill upon the subject.
Mr.WILKS presented a petition from Cambridge against
the New Poor Law Bill.

Sir R. I NGLI '. presented a petition (as we understood)
from London, praying for a repeal of the Catholic Emanci-
pation Bill.

Mr. BONHAM presented a petition from Manchester
against the New Poor Law Bill.
Mr. MAXWELL presented a petitict'a from Falkirk
against negro apprenticeship in the Waft Indies.
Mr. E. J. STANLEY brought up papers from the Trea-
sury, which were laid on the table.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved that an address be
presented to her Majesty, praying that there be laid before
that House copies u. any corresp:mdenee that had taken
place bet the Poor•law Comm;ssioners and the Board
;:r Guardi.ins of certain Poor•lari Unions.
Mr. HUM E presented a petition from the Dissenters of
Newington, against Church-rates.

Mr. WARBURTON said that a return had been moved
for the (filer night, of the names of the parties to whom
compensation had been granted, out of the 20,000,0001.
West India fund, and he was then informed that there would
be no objection to make the return. He begged to ask now,
whether her Majesty's Government had any objection to the
return ?

Mr. W. GLADSTONE saw a very considerable objec-
tion to the return being made, on the ground that it'would
expose the private circumstances of many individuals. If
there was any suspicion of a dereliction of duty on the part
of the Commissioners, or any idea of malversation, then
there might be a ground for the motion.
ECCLESIASTICAL APPOINTMENTS SUS-

PENSION BILL.
The Order of the Day for the consideration of the
Lords' Amendments on the Ecclesiastical Appointments
Suspension Bill having been read,

Lord JOHN RUSSELL then moved that the House
do disagree with the Lords' amendments to this Bill.
The House of Commons last year bad the whole matter un-
der their consideration, and did not think proper to insert any
such clause as that which had been introduced by the Lords.
He thought the House of Commons might fairly be allowed
to consider the claims of persons who were their own officers,
and if they allowed the House of Lords to exercise any judg-
ment upon such matters it would be establishing a prece-
dent of interference which he was not willing to sanetioh.
—(Hear.) The lion. Member for Oxford had stated what
was perfectly true, that they might accept the clause, and
that the Crow❑ might not think fit to act upon it.—(Loud
cries of " Hear, hear.") It had occurred to him that
if they were to accept the clause, the Noble Lord at the
head of the Ministry might exercise his own discretion in
recommending those persons to the favour of the Crown, and
in the exercise of that discretion he might not think fit to
recommend them to the Royal favouN But he was of opi-
nion that that would not be fair, and therefore be Wished
to meet the question fairly. With respect to the general
question of whether those gentlemen had a claim or not,
he did not think it necessary to enter upon that now ; but
it certainly was a question which the majority of the
House had considered in the last Session of Parliament.
However, he would be ready upon any future occasion
•to enter into the whole question again ; and if those in-
dividuals had a well-founded claim, he should be ready to
state his opinion upon it. What he meant to say was, that
the House ought not to allow an imputation to be made
that they had not done justice to those gentleman who had
performed the duty of chaplains to the House—( Hear)
—and the House of Lords had no right whatever to say
the House of Commons had acted unjustly or unfairly
towards its own ofEeers,—( Hear, bear.) The Noble Lord
then moved that the House do disagree to the Lords'
amendments.

Sir It. INGLIS said he should more, if lie could, that
the 'House do agree to the Lords' amendments, and he
should resist the motion of the Noble Lord on the grounds
on which he stated he should resist it yesterday. The
honour of that House and the honour of the Crown were
pledged` tO what the Noble Lord had called an act of
favour, but which he called an act of justice. The cnly
point on which a difference of opinion could exist, was whe-
ther the measure should originate in that House or in the
House of Lords. Until he was told from higher authority
than any be saw opposite that it was an interference with
the privileges of the House, he would not believe it to be
so. It was no e.ompromise for the House to do justice.
The Crown had promised to give these gentlemen some
preferment, and therefore he moved the retention of the
clause.

Mr. HUME, considering the manner in which the Hon.
Baronet stood for the privileges of the two houses, was
surprised to find him upon that occasion willing to
sacrifice their privileges to the other House. He was one
of a Committee up stairs which wished to inquire into
the remuneration of the officers of the House of Lords,
and they were told that the rule was so strict, that no in-
terference could take place, except the House of Com-
mons resisted the grant in the Committee of Supply.
—( Hear.) Such being the case, he thought it would be
giving up the privileges of the House if they allowed the
Interference of the other House. He was bound to say
that he thought the Gentlemen had a fair claim to some
preferment ; but he never could consent to allow the other
House to dictate to them the line and conduct they should
pursue.

Mr. ESTCOURT said he agreed with every word which
had fallen from his Hon. Colleague, and would divide with
him.

Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the
House divided, when there appeared—
For the motion
For the Amendment ll
Majority in favour of the rejection
of the Lords' Amendments —36
. On our re-admission to the Gallery we found Lord
J. RUSSELL on his legs, moving that the House should
disagree to another of the amendments of the Lords.
Mr. HUME wished to suggest to the Noble Lord, as
it was quite apparent that some alteration must take
place, and as the present Bill was merely a temporary sus-
pending of the appointment if particular officers until
a more comprehensive measure of R4orni was introduced,
to call the attention of the Commissioners to the subject.,
for the purpose of seeing whether or not the salaries of
the clergy might be increased by reducing the number
of churches in certain parishes.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the attention of the Commis-
sioners had been already called to the subject alluded to by
the Hon. Member. As to the general plan which had been
suggested, he thought that in the present state of the
patronage of the Church, and the long-established usages
existing in different parishes, it would be impossible to carry
it into effect.

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE being one of those who had
voted against the clause, and in favour of the amendment
made by the Lords, he wished to ask whether these Chap-
lains were to be for ever precluded from receiving that pro-
motion to. which the House and the Crown had assented.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL had already stated that that
question was quite open to the consideration of the House
of Commons in another year. If the rule had been acted
upon in all cases since Earl Grey came into power, it would
have been impossible to have recommended any other per-
sons. The whole of the dignities of the Church would have
been absorbed by the chaplains of the I-rouse of Commons,
and the Crown would have been prevented from rewarding
merit in the Church.
Mr. DUNCOMBE thought it was a gross breach of
faith with these persons, on the part of the House of Co!ia-
inons, which in any other assembly would have been stig-
matized as disgraceful.
Sir R. INGLIS contended that the House had pledged
itself, and that it could not now retract without a breach
of faith.

Lord J. RUSSELL rose to order. Thar subject was
not at present under consideration.

Sir R. INGLIS tho;ghtthe,Noble Lord ought. himself
to be called to order, for he had continued the discussion.
Lord J. RUSSELL had merely answered a question
put to him.

Sir. It. INGLIS said if the amendment of the Lords
was supposed to he an infringement of the privileges of
that tiouse
Rot reject the Bill altogether ?
Air, wApunToN apprehended that the clause had
peen already disposed of, and that therefore the discussion
could not he persevered in.
Mr. HUME thought the observations which had been
made by the Hon. Member for Pins')Ury (Mr, Duncombe)
wire altogether irrelevant to the suhject under discussion.
—(Laughter.)
Mr. D t-1 IV Q. Q 14141 thought his speech was as relevant
016 gla{ter as the seeech of the tiou, 114“Oer for Micidle-

sex—(Laughter)--and thought that the Hon. Member had
been making an electioneering speech.—(Great Laughter.)
Mr. IIUME must deny • altogether hi.; Hon. Friend's
insintultion.—(Renewed laughter.) This was a subject
which every man knew had occupied his attention for a
considerable time last year, and that it was a eubject on
which he had given the first notice this Session. He
thought that some of the opinions lately expresszd by the
Hon. Member (Mr. Duncombe) rather countenanced a sus.
picion that he had been making electioneering speeches.
—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) The Lords' amendments
were then ordered to be considered this day three months.
The Clerk of the Peace Documents' Bill went through
Committee, and ordered to be read a third time to.morrgw,

TITHE COMMUTATION BILL.
Mr. P. THOMSON, in moving that the Lords' amend-
moots to the Tithe Commutation Bill ho agreed to, u
served that the Lords hod introduced twn amendment*
which would do on herrn at all, and would not du tnuch
goo,l ; thereforu there could ha no objection t thtant-in
(Laughter.)Agreed to.

• TITfrES ON FISH,
Captain PECHELL would take
,tll:at opptlYinhity of
asking, which probably would be the last he should have
this session, the Noble Lord, tive Secretary for the Home
Department, whether and Step had been taken with re-.
spect to the abolition of a,,ne tithe oa fish ?—(Laughter,)
Lord JOHN RTISSELL said that if the Hon. and
Gallant Officer-load given him notice of the question, he
wr,uld have been able to have made a more distinct
answer ; but he had called the attention of the Tithe
Commissioners to the subject, and they had informed him
the matter was under their consideration, with ihe view of
coming to a satisractory conclusion on the subject as quickly
as possible.
Captain PECHELL was perfectly satisfied with tht
Noble Lord's answer.

THEATRE REGULATION BILL..
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE moved that the Lord amend-
ments to this Bill be taken into consideration thin day three
months. He did not know whether it• was 'necessary for
him to state his reasons for so doing.—(C-ete3 of " No, no,"
and a laugh.) The Bill had passed the House of Com-
mons without a dissentient voice, and it bad been corn-
pletely spoiled by the Lords. He hoped that some day
or other they should see the arztitscments of the people
put under the direction of the Home Office, in-
stead of being left to the caprice of the Lord Chamberlain,
whose power was frequently used with gross injustice and
partiality.

Sir 11. INGLIS begged to ask whether the Noble Se-
cretary for the Home Department would be prepared to
lay on thd table of the House on the first day of next Ses-
sion the returns which he had moved for yesterday relative
to the Civil List ?

Lord J. RUSSELL believed that the rapers would
then be ready.

FOREIGN POLICY.
Mr. ATT WOOD then rose to ask a series 'of ques-
tions of which be had given notice relating to the Foreign
policy of the country.-
The SPEAKER enquired whether the ann. Member
intended to make any motion.
Mr. ATTWOOD did not—he intended to ask certain
questions, and if it were out of order, to argue the questions,
he would put them to the Government seriatim.
"1. h it the final determination of her Majesty's Govern-
ment to submit to the violations of the Treaty of Vienna by
Russia, in respect of Poland and of Cracow ?
" 2. Is it their determination to allow Russia to receive
Circassia as a gift from Turkey, under the Treaty of Adriano-
ple, Russia having previously contracted with England to
receive no separate advantage' from Turkey, in the war
which terminated in that Treaty ?
• 3. Is it their determination to allow Russia to hold, pos-
session of the Delta of the Danube, in defiance of the. %boys)
contract with England ?
" 4. Supposing the above contract on the part of Russia to
be waived, is it their determination to allow Rus'la to receive
a gift from Turkey, which Turkey had no rib to give—
Turkey never having possessed acknowledged, 'dominion over
Circassia ?
" 5. Is it their determination to allow Rursia to conquer, or
possibly exterminate the Cireassians ' • and thus to get posses-
sion of a country which would give her unlimited influence,
and ultimate dominion over, Turkey a.llO- Persia, and all the
countries of the East ?
" 6. Is it their final determination to submit to the gross
and insufferable arrogance of Russ;.i., in the affair of the Vixen ?
"7. Is it their final determination to submit to the Treaty
of Unkiar Skelessi, which in case of war between England
and Russia closes the Dardamdles at the mandate of Russia,.
and thus, or, the one hand, prevents England from attackinir
Russia on her weak pole'. ; and, on the other, delivers up the
allies and friends of Etgland, an- unresisting prey, to consoli..
date and increase the power of the herbaria(' et' the North ?
—(Llughter.)
Mr. AI:TWO OD—What the devil are
.t;ou laughing
at ?—(Ciies of " Order, order.") There is nothing in the
question to laugh at.

" 8. Is it true that the Russians have now upwards of 20
line of-battle ships, nearly ready for sea, at Cronstadt,
a fortnight's sail of he mouth of the Thames ?
9. Is it true that England cannot now produco within a
fortnight 20 line-of-battle ships, ready for sea, at .the mouth of
the Thames ?"

He trusted the Noble Lord wculd give an explicit answer
to all these questions, as he was not allowed to enter into
arguments upon the question.
Lord J. RUSSELL thought these mere questions which
might have been put at any period of the Session—the one
relating to the Treaty of Unkiar Skeiessi.
might have been
asked any time these two years. The Minister for Foreign
Affairs would be in his place to-morrow, and would be ready
to give answers to any questions which might be asked.
Mr. ATTWOOD hoped the Secretary of the Admiralty
would answer the questions rafting to the naval force of
the country.
Mr. C. WOOD said it was not usual to answer ques-
tions relating to the forces of the country. lie had no
hesitation, however, in saying, that whenever the country
was assailed, let it be from whatever quarter it might, they
would be 'prepared to repel it.—(Cheers.)
On the motion of Mr. HA WKES, a return was or-
dered of the number of stamps issued to each newspaper in
England and Wales, from the Ist of January to the 30th
June, together with the number of advertisements in each,
and the amount of duty paid by each for advertisements.
On the motion of Mr. CHALMERS, the Lords'
amendments to the Fishguard Harbour Bill, and the Bishop
Auckland and Weardale Railway Bill, were agreed to.
On the motion of Mr. ORD, the Lords' amendments
to the Glasgow and Ayr Railway Bill, and the Stockport
Improvement Bill, were agreed to.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL reported from the Committee
appointed to draw up reasons for disagreeing with certain
amendments made by the House of Lords on the Ecclesi-
astical Appointments Suspension Bill.
The Managers of the Conference, on the part of the
Commons, then withdrew.

On the Managers' return, Lord JOHN RUSSELL
stated that the Commons had left their reasons, together
with the Bill, with their Lordshipi.
Lord J. RUSSELL moved that the House at its rising
do adjourn to a Quarter before Four to-morrow.
Agreed to.—The House then adjourned.

HOUSE OF LORDS, JULY 14.
TllO-Liiii'D CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack
at Five o'Clock.

The Earl of GALLOWAY presented petitions against
certain clauses in the Prisons (Scotland) Bill ; also a peti-
tion from Shirley, in Derbyshire, in favour of ttlinsterring
fairs and markets from Saturday to Monday.
Lord SEYMOUR, and other Members of the House of
Commons, brought up a copy of the report of the Poor
Law Committee ; also the reports of the Fictitious Votes
Committee ; also the Bankrupt's (Ireland) Bill ; and thu
Marquis of 13ntu's Estate Bill

Lord DUN CANNON then laid on the table the Report
of the Post-office Commission.

On the motion of the same NOBLE LORD, the Cruelty
to Animals (Ireland) Bill, anti the Masters and Workmen
Bill were road a third time and passed ; as was the Beet.
root Sugar Bill.

CORPORATE PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL,
The House then went into Committee on this Bill,
The several clauses were agreed to, and the litrase re-
sumed ; the Bill was reported, and ordered tei he read a
third time to-morrow.
The Fermanagh Baronial Subdivision 13 ill also went
through Committee ; as did the_ Church 13uilding.Commis-
sion Bill.
The Bishop of EXETER presented a petition from the
Diocese of Armagh against the system of national edue4.. tion in Ireland.
The Duke of SUSSEX presented a petition from the
Quakers of Ireland, praying for the extinguishing from the
Criminal Code the punishment of death. Th.e petitioners
considered that the subject should be strongly impressed
on their Lordships, because the right of taking away human
life contrary to the principles of the Christian religion.
--(Hear.) He would now say, that he did not wish
to take their Lordships by surprise. They were perfectly
aware that the body of men who were petitioners had many
conscientious scruples, and he hoped the petition would not
be considered to be informal because the words in it were
" respectfully trust," and not " humbly trust," and because
it was addressed to the " Peers" of the kingdom.
The petition was then read at the table.

Lord SIIAFTESBURY objected to the reception of
the petition, because the terms Lords Spiritual and Tem-
poral " were not used. He was sorry for this, considering
the respectable body from whence it catne.

The Duke of SUSSEX said he would withdraw the pe-
tition if it were opposed.

Lord BROUGHAM regretted that this course must be
adopted, and the construction of their Lordships' rules could
nat fAt widened, In fact it unwanted to this, that no peti.

tion could be received from the Quakers. He would ask,
had not petitions of the same nature been already reu.ived
The Duke of SUSSEX said he would withariuv the pe-
tition for the present, but would reserve the right t 3 present

it again.
Lord BERESFORD thought that if the words " Peers
of Parliament" were used, it would. obviate the obieetion,
and he was sure the House was anxious to receive the peti-

tions of the body referred to.
Lord BROUGHAM said that he would take the sense
of the House on it, if the petition were opposed, and the
words " Peers of Parliament" were used.
Messengers from the Commons then desired a Con-
ference with their Lordships on the subject of their Lord-
ships' amendments to the Ecclesiastical Suspension I
Conference was then appointed to be held presently
iu
Committee-rooi:n
Mr. BuoTunner,?N and other Members of the Commons
brought up the Glasgo..7. and Paisley Bill, the Clerks of the
Peace Bill, the Stockport ...rwprovement
The foltwine, Noble Lord were then appointed, on the
motion of Lord MELnounNE, Managers of a Conference
with the COIIIIIIOEI3 on the subject cif the Ecclesiastical Sus-
pension Bill: the Lord President, Lord Shaftesbury,
Lord Mulgrave, the Bii;hop of Killaloe, Earl of Fingal,
Lord Poltimore, and Lord 11:iteman.
Oa the return of thc Confereziee,
The LORD PitESIDENT siated that thir Lord-
sbips' Managers had met those of the Conference, icas
con Iticted by Lord J. Russell, and others, who stated ,;bat
the Commons had returned the Bill, and had disagreed to
clause A of the amendments of their Lordships, and their
reasons for so doing.
Lord MELBOURNE then moved that their Lor d ships
do agree to the Commons' amendments.
_ • .

Lord CANTERBURY did not consider the clause to
be an unbecoming interference with the House of Commons ;
but if it were considered so, he would not object to the mo-
tion of the Noble Lord.

The motion was then agreed to.
EDUCATION IN IRELAND.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented the Re-
port of the Committee on Education in Ireland. The Com-
mittee had desired him to state, that from the number of
witnesses which had to be examined, the Committee consi-
dered that it would be better to la 3 the evidence before the
House without any comment.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH complained that if
any abuses in the system were found to exist the redress of
them had not been recommended.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that if any such
abuses had been discovered by the Committee as would
have demanded immediate redress, the Committee would
have of course made a special report on the subject—no
such abuses however bad been elicited in the course of the
inquiry.—(Hear, and cheers.)
BILLS OF EXCHANGE BILL.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in moving the third
reading of this Bill, observed on the extent of commercial
disturbance which had existed during the last six months.
The present Bill would tend to admininister relief under
such circumstances, and it was desirable that it should not be
a temporary but a permanent measure ; as if it were tern
porary it would only lead to other temporary measures—
it was intended to apply to Id months' bills.
After a few words from Lord BEXLEY,
Tee Duke of WELLINGTON said that he had an op-
portunity of speaking with some persons in the city on the
Bill, and there was a general objection to it, as it Went
to annihilate the law of usury, in respect to these
bills. A measure also like the present, should not be in-
troduced at such a period of the session. When originally
introduced in the House of Commons, the Bill referred to
bills of six months: After which, on the motion of an
Honourable Gentleman, it was altered to its pre-
sent shape.—(Hear, hear.) lie would say in addition,
to this that the measure involved a breach of the bargain
made with the Bank. He considered that it should be
limited in time, and that it should refer to bills of six months.
The Noble Duke then moved amendments to the effect
that the operation of the Bill should be limited to the Ist
of January, 1539, and should refer to bills of six months.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE had no objection to
the amendment, as he was sure, when the operation of the
Bill had been experienced, it would be found to be
beneficial, and the, necessity for its continuance would
be made evident.—( Hear.) The measure would, he
was sure, have the effect of enabling commercial houses to
rescue themselves from difficnities in times of pressure.
Lord BROUGHAM said that the effect of the limita-
tion of time would be to increeee the expense to the bor-
rower, who was the needy person.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said, that he would
withdraw his amendment rather than throw any impedi-
ment in the way.
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
CRIMINAL LAW.
On the motion of Lord DENNIA.N, the several Crimi-
nal Law Bills were read a third time, and passed.
Lord BROUGHAM begged, before these Bills left the
House, once more to remind their Lordships that, although,
considering. the advanced period of the Session, and the
convenience of allowing even partial measures to be
adopted, rather than wait until the whole subject could be
legislatively considered, he had concurred in them, it was•
only because as far as they went they restricted the amount
of criminal punishment. He had, on a former occasion,
expressed his anxiety for the abolition of capital punish-
ment for all crimes except murder, and, even in cases of
murder, he entertained considerable doubts whether capital
punishment ought to be inflicted. He was glad to find
that his Noble and Learned Friend opposite had come to
the same conclusion ; and he hoped that ere long this salu-
tary change would be meele in the Criminal Law. One
word as to the alterations which had taken place in the
details of these Bills. There could be no doubt that the
hurry with which the Biils had passed through the House
was greatly to he Li:men:ed. There could be no doubt
that many oversights had occurred in those Bills in con-
sequence. He hoped, however, that the pains which had
been taken with the Bills by some of their Lordships had ren-
dered those oversights as fetv in number as could fairly be
expected. No blame whatever could attach to any one for
the inconsistencies which had been pointed out in these
Me by his Noble and Learned Friend. They originated
from its having been thought expedient (on which, howe-
ver, he would give no opinion) not to wait until the whole
series of measures had been completed, but to pass a portion
of them at once. Under such circumstances inconsistencies
were unavoidable, and reflected no blame on those by whom
the measures :tad been framed.
Lord LYND.HURST observed that when lie made the
observation about the inconsistencies in the Bills, he was
not aware of the correspondence which had taken place
between the Commissioners and the Noble Lerd the Se-
cretary of State for the Home Department, in which those
inconsistencies had beet, pointed out by the Coinmissioners.
Lord BROUGHAM observed that, in adverting to the
inconsistency of subjecting smaller offences to a greater pu-
nishment than larger offences, his Noble and Learned Friend
had omitted to state that the minor offences so punished
must be accompanied by violence.
Lord DEN MAN felt great gratification at the manner
in which these Bills had been received and treated by their
Lordships. The difficulties with respect to them would
have been less if his Noble and Learned Friend opposite had
not been desirous to extend the operation of sonic of the
Bills further than was originally intended. With respect to
the inconsistencies which had been adverted to, there could
be no comparison between tl.ose inconveniences and the
shocking incongruity in time existing practice of the law,
casting upon .it the odium of sentencing twenty times more
persons to capital punishment than it was intended to visit
with that infliction. Many improvements had been intro-
duced into the Bills ; and he felt himself much indebted to
both his Noble and Learned Friends for the pains which
they had taken on the subject. He said this, lest it should
be supposed out of doors that these measures were less
valuable than they really were.
Lord LYNDIIURST considered them to be very
valuable measures. Almost all the anomalies which he had
originally pointed out had been removed. •
The LORD CHANCELLOR observed that Govern-
most had only the choice of two evils—either to postpone
the Ineasures altogether, or to admit the inconsistencies
alluded to.
Lord LYNDIIUitsT repeated that all the inconsisten-
cies_ which he 'had pointed out had been obviated.
After a few more observations from the LORD CHAN-
CELLOR and Lord LYNOSICEST the conversation dreppedr„.•
BETTER OBSERVANCE OF Tin: SABBATH.
The Earl of RODEN presented
numerous petitions
from various parts of the kingdom, praying for the adoption
dome legislative measure to enforce the better observance
of the Sabbath.

STATE OF IRELAND.
ar of
The Ear: of RODEN, adl calm-, thereturns
eter h
constabul try of Dublin, of the number
and character
the outrages whici: had been committed in Ireland'
in the
year ending in June, 1536, which had been laid on their
Lordships' table by the Noble Earl at the head of the
vernment of that country, entered into an examination of.
the details, to show that thq. number of outrages had in-
erecsed, or at least that no improvement had taken place in
that iTspeet within the last year. Minor outrages might
have dinc;nis;:ed; but more important outrages, such as horn-
tnicide and the robbery of arms, had greatly increased. He
requested the goble Earl would favour their Lordships
would some explanadot7 en that point.
The Earl of mULGUA.YE said be had lain the returns
adverted to by the Noble Earl on their Lordships table, be-
cause he had quoted part of them from memory on the pre-
ceding day. He entirely denied the inferences which had
been drawn from them by the Noble Earl ; and maintained
that they proved that outrages in Ireland had greatly dimi-
nished in the last year. The Noblp Earl had stated that

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the smaller offences had diminished, but that the larger
ones had greatly increased, and had quoted the number
of murders as a proof of that assertion. Now, the fact.
was that all homicides were so termed ; but when they
came to he investigated it turned out that most of
them were committed under circumstances of iinmediate
provocation, and were therefore only manslaughter. A
great portion of the crimes committed in Ireland arose
from di-etrese ; and he had the satisfaction to ass ureatly theidi-
r
Lordships that the distress in that country was gre
• minished. There never also had been a prospect of a bet-
ter harvest, and that would afford additional enconrage-
, ment to labour. He held a diminution of moral offences
to be the best test of the increasing tranquillity of any
country ; and he would confidently appeal to the approach-
ing assizes in Ireland for proofs of his 'assertion, that the re-
turns which had been adverted to exhihited a vast diminu-
tion of crime. There was an utter abienee of those in-
surrectionary offences witich were so common a few years
go. The people began to feel that equal protection, and
that just participation in the benefits of the British Consti-
tution, which it had been the object of the Bill that had
been brought in by a Noble Duke, whom he did not then
see in his place, to procure them. Temporary circum-
stances (he did not wish to throw blame on any one) might
for a time have retarded that consummation ; but he was
convinced that on the foundation of that Bill an improve-
ment was taking place in the character of the people of
Ireieed, and in their condition, from which he honestly be-
, lieved filet most advantageous results would eventually
menifest therneelves—(Hear, hear.)
'flee Mar Vis of wF,sTmEAT II was unable to concur
!ri the views an,l opinions of the 'eagle Earl. He con-
-1 with his Noble Friend near hiM, t.:;et the returns
exhibits •'a increase if crime—at least crimes or magjtude.
The Earl ,:s.O GLENIIALL was proceeding to addrete
the House, when
Lord HOL L A Nil) interrupted the Noble Lord, and
ouse, it was a
said, there being no quCe.!;en before L'.'" -louse,
most irregular conversatlon, which could only :cad to a
waste of time. -It was alloveed as a matter of courtesy to
one Member or that House to put a question to any other
Noble Lord who might be in he.: place ; but to have a dis-
sertation on all the different item; b.r returns laid on the
table. was wholly contrary to the rules elf their proceedings,
and such irregularity tended to lower the ,c'haracter and dig-
nity of that House.—(Hear, hear.)
The Earl of GLENGALL had no wish to trespass on
their Lordships' attention.
Lord BROUGHAM presented petitions from Annan,
in Scptland, for an alteration in the marriage laws ; from
the police of Paisley, for municipal corporation reform ; also
two petitions for the abolition of Church-rates ; and one
from the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals;
and other persons desirous of attaining the same object,
which, the Noble Lord said, was very numerously and most
respectably signed. The Noble Lord also moved for re-
turns of the amount of saving which had taken place in the
Masters' and Registrars' Offices since the year 1831.
Viscount DUNCAN NON presented a variety of peti-
tions in favour of the Church-rates Bill, and on other sub-
jects, from Reading, Hammersmith, several London parishes,
and other places.
The Central Criminal Court Bill was read a third time,
and passed.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

FROM LAST NIGHT'S GAZETTE.

WAR-OFFICE, JULY 14.

3d Regiment of Light Dragoons—G. Cookes, Gent., to be
Cornet, by purchase, vice Steinbach, who retires, July 14.
23th Regiment of Foet—Ensign S. 8.. Hamilton to be Lieute-
nant, by purchase, vice Nowlan, who retires; J. A. Ogilvie,
Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Hamilton, July 14.
:nth Foot—Lieut. W W. Drake to be Captain by purchase,
vice Davidson, who retires ; Ensign G. Brown, to be Lieutenant,
by purchase, vice Drake ; Hon. J. W. Fortescue, to be Ensign,
vice Brown, July 14.
. 31st Foot—Ensign G. Frend, to be Lieutenant, by purchase,
vice Maclean, who retires ; G. B. Shaw, Gent., to be Ensign, by
purchase, vice Frend, July, 1837.
51st Foot—Lieut. A. C. Errington, vice Flood, who retires,
Lieut. H. Relies, vice Cochrane, who retires, 14th July, to be
Captains, by purchase ; Ensign H. C. C. Somerset, vice Erring-
ton, 14th July, Ensign H. M'Farlane, vice Rolles, 15th July, to
be Lieutenants,' by purchase ; A. J. W. Northey, Gent., vice
Somerset, 14th July, A. H. Irby, Gent., vice M'Farlane, 15th July,
to be Ensigns, by purchase ; W. J. Power, Gent., vice Ryan, ap-
pointed to the Staff, 14th July, to be Assistant-Surgeon.
60th Foot—Capt. H. Trevelyan, from the 76th Foot, to be Cer-
tain, vice Sutton, who exchanges, July 14.
76th Foot—Capt. S. I. Sutton, from the 60th Foot, to be Cap-
tain, vice Trevelyan, who exchanges, July 14.
UNATTACHED.

Lieut. W. A. Blakeney, from Adjutant of a Recruiting Dis-
trict, July 14.

STAFF.

Lieut. R. 31'Nair, front half-pay Cape Regiment, to be Adjutant
of a Recruiting District (repaying the difference he received when
he exchanged to half-pay), vice Bhkeney, promoted, July 14.

HOSPITAL STAFF.
Assistant-Surgeon M. Ryan, M.D., from the 51st Foot, to be
Assistant-Surgeon to the Forces, vice Smith, promotod, July 14.
BREVET.

Captain W. Powell, of the Royal Marines, to be Major in the
Army, March 18.

Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Sussex.
Royal Sussex Regiment of 31ilitia.—Ensign J. W. Cooper to
be Lieutenant, vice C. Brown, resigned, June 23.
Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Renfrew.
Renfrewshiro Yeomanry Cavalry—J. Gordon, Gent. to be Cor-
net, vice Wm. Houston, resigned, April 2d.

LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, Jur.v 10.
Notice is hereby given, that her Majesty will hold a Levee at
St. James's-Palace, on Wednesday the 19th inst., at two o'clock.
Notice is hereby given, that her "Majesty wilt hold a Drawing-
room, at St. James's Palace, on Thursday the `.oth instant, at two
o'clock.