The Sun.
London, England, 1863-06-04 00:00:00

EXHIBITION.

Mr. C. BENTINCK caked the First Lord of the Trea-
sury whether his attention had been called to a design pre-
pared by Captain Fowke for the alteration or completion
of the Exhibition building; whether her Majesty's Govern-
ment approved generally of such design ; and, if so,
whether the cost of the same was included in the estimate
now laid upon the table of the house?
Mr. GREGORY asked the First Lord of the Treasury
whether a detailed statement of the expense to be incurred
in altering, repairing, completing, and rendering beautiful
the International Exhibition building will be printed being
laid betore the house, previous to a vote of £485,000
taken as the first expense connected with the purchase
of
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SEIZURE P7PTHE WILL 0' THE WISP, &c.
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asked the Under Secretary of State
rejection of the
for Foreian Affairs if any claim had been made upon the
Government of the United States of America for com-
pensation to the owners of the schooner Will o' the 'Wisp,
seized in Mexican waters at Matamoras, by the United
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be any objection to lay on the table the correspondence?
Mr. LAYARD explained that the case would, no doubt,
be shortly carried by the owners to the Supreme Court of
the United States. The original decision amounted
to this, that the vessel which had been seized in the
Mexican waters would be restored. (Hear.) The court
referred to decided that there were eTounds of suspicion,
and, therefore, r, fused to give either damages or costs. Her
Meje.qy had pressed the United States to allow costs to the
ceptc re, but they had refused. He would inquire whether
there was tiny objection to the production of the papers,
TRAWL NETS (SCOTLAND).
Mr. FINLAY asked the Lord Advocate whether he
intended to propose a measure for legalising the use of
trawl or seine nets for catching herrings in Scotland.
'The LORD ADVOCATE replied in the negative.
HOLYHEAD HARBOUR.—OFFENSIVE LAN-
GUAGE OF THE CHANCELLOR OF THE

EXCHEQUER.
Mr. TOLLEMACHE complained that on Monday
night when ho happened to be unavoidably absent, the
Chancellor of the Exchequer observed with respect to the

composition of the Holyhead committeee appointed on the
preceding Friday. The right hon. gentleman complained
that the committee was not impartially constituted, and
would consequently carry no weight with the Government.
He declared that he had no personal interest in
the matters that would come before the committee.,
nor, indeed, any of his constitutents ; neither had,
he any interest in the railway, though it
passed through South Cheshire. He had no desire to serve
on this committee, and if his right hon. friend would move
that he be discharged from it he would cordially second the
motion. (Hear, and laughter.) So far as he was concerned
he felt perfectly competent to arrive at a perfectly un—
biassed decision.
Mr. D. PENNANT declared that he likewise had na
interest in Holyhead, and did not own an acre of land in
the Isle of Anglesey. He was interested in Camarvon,
and could recollect that 22 years ago there was a
great struggle between the two places as to which
ought to be the harbour. If he had any preference at all it
was for Carnarvon

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
hon. gentleman the member for South Cheshire had been
misinformed, as be had no recollection of having used per-
sonal or offensive language. He certainly did say
that the committee was not impartially constituted,
and referred, in support of his statement, to the public de-
clarations of several of the members. It might be invidious
to mention names, but he was satisfied that his two hon.
friends would give an impartial consideration to the subject.
He never presumed to say that the decision of the commit-
tee would De unworthy of the consideration of the Govern-
ment.
Mr. H. HERBERT looked upon the words of the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer as insulting and offensive. He
begged to move the adjournment of the house.
Mr. HENNESSY seconded the motion.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said if his
remarks were "insulting and offensive," it was the duty of
the hon. member to have called attention to them at the
lime they were made. (Hear.) The hon. member should
quote his words a
Mr. HERBERT was ready to do so.
The SPEAKER decided that the words should have been
quoted at the time; it was now too late to do so.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER again
disclaimed using unparliamentary language.
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mittee
knowledge, and would not be obedient I (Hear, hear.)
Mr. DISRAELI said it was the duty of the Government
not to assent to committees not, in their opinion, impartially
constituted. The Government ought to have opposed the
appointment of the committee at the time.
Mr. HENNESSEY rose to order.
Mr. BRIGHT said this discussion was half Welsh and
half Irish. (Laughter.) He had often heard it alleged in
that house that committees were not impartial, and did not
consider the language unparliamentary.
Lord J. MANNERS appealed to the Speaker for his
opinion.
The SPEAKER decided hat the discussion must then
end, as it was contrary to the rules of the house. It was
competent in the right hon. gentleman to state it as his
opinion, that a committee was not impartially constituted
if he thought so.
The subject then dropped.
VOLUNTEERS BILL.

On the motion for going into committee,
Mr. BAGWELL moves that, in the opinion of this house
it is impolitic any longer to exclude Ireland from the ope-
ration of the volunteer system, and unjust; should such
exclusion continue, to tax Ireland for the support of Eng-
lish volunteers.
The Marquis of HARTINGTON opposed the motion,
but in doing so did not wish to cast any doubt upon the
loyalty of the people of Ireland.
Lord PALMERSTON spoke highly of the loyalty of the
Irish . people, Their unfortunate pugnacity and the
diversity of religious opinions that prevailed, rendered it
impolitic that a civil armed force should be created in that
country. _ _

After a few words from several hon. members,
The house divided, when there appeared—
For the motion
Against it
Majority y —lll
The motion was consequently lost.
The house then went into committee.
(LEFT SITTING.)