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man Wood she had removed the razors before he
mentioned them.
By Mr. Brand—l do not know that the razors
wanted sharpening.
By a Juror—My book will show what quantity
of wine Mr. Brand drank daily.
The book in question was here produced, and the
witness pointed out the different entries for wine,-
which she had sent for ut the reqUest of Mr. Brand,
but as they were not in the witness's hand-writing
they could not be received. in evidence.
By Mr. AUSTIN--There were several hand-
writings in the book; could not say that a single
• entry was made by herself.
By a Juror—No wine had been brought to the
house excepting for Mr. Brand; no entry had been
made for wine or brandy which were not supplied
to Mr. Brand; was quite sure the book was quite
correct.

(The witness underwent a long examination by
Mr. AUSTIN relative to the different entries in the
book, but nothing farther of importance was elicited.)
At the request of Mr. Brand the witness was
asked if any one drank wine with him, to which she
replied, that on the Sunday Lieutenant Brand called
upon him only one bottle was drunk. Two bottles
had been entered in the book, but one of the entries
was erased on the following morning. Mr. Brand
never had any wine but what was sent for by witness.
In answer to questions from 4 Juror, the witness
again declared she had never made the statements to
Mr. Alderman Wood, relative to the wine, which
that gentleman had sworn to. -
Mr. Alderman Wood expressed a strong wish to
be re-examined, as in case the last witness's evidence
went before the public without some qualification
it could not fail of proving prejudicial to him; .the
Chief Commissioner, however, was of opinion that
such a course would be irregular.
Francis Le Merchant, examined by Mr. Brand—
Had never seen any symptoms of insanity in Mr.
Brand's conduct; had often seen him during the
lust two years ; had been a member of a chess-club
to which Mr. Brand belonged; had received a letter
from him 'last April ; the letter was perfectly
rational; but it had been prob►►bly destroyed, as
witness could not find it. Had been in Mr. B.'s
company at his (witness's) own house, and at diffe-
rent coffee-houses; had occasionally drank a good
deal of wine, but never remembered to have seen
him insane, even during these periods. Should not
have the least objection to trust himself alone with
Mr. Brand in a private room, in case he were im-
mediately set at liberty. .

By Mr. AUSTIN—Saw Mr. Brand last about :six
months ago; he had since called at his (witness's)
house, but ho was from home. The letter he had
received from Mr. B. was relative to u chess club, of
which Mr. B. had been elected a member.—(The
witness here recapitulated the contents of the letter,
So far as he could recollect them,)
By the Cuter COMMISSIONER—Hud had repeated
opportunities of forming a correct estimate of Mr.
Brand's state of mind previously to the last six
months; always knew him to be an eccentric cha-
racter, but believed him to be us sound in mind as
he (witness) trusted he himself was at the present
moment.

Mary Breame examined by Mr. Brand—Remem-
bered his calling at the Jolly Butehers'-yard ; was re-
lated to his wife; recollected Mrs. Brand having been
recommended as companion to the family of Mr. Lam-
bert, No. 1, Fitzroy-square; she went. to live in the
square after she (witness) had left; never heard the
names of visitors in the square; did not remember
the name of Mr. Gloster or For►ter among the
visitors.

By a COMMISSIONER—Mid seen Mr. Brand at
the Jolly Butchers' about a month since.

Thom-as Tilley, a milkman, in reply to Mr. Brand,
recollected doing business fur Mr. Brand at the
Temple; this was about a year anti a half ago ; had
taken seed to Hammersmith for Mr. Brand ; had
seen nothing at the time to make him think Mr.
Brand insane.

William Wright, a wheelwright, examined by Mr.
Brand—Had held frequent conversa►ion •on matters
of business with Mr. Brand, in the course of which he
never observed any symptoms warranting a belief
of Mr. Brand's insanity.

Mary Barton examined by Mr. Brand—Do you
think from what you have seen of me that there is
any necessity for putting me under restraint ? (Wit-
ness is servant at Harris's Hotel, and has constantly
waited upon Mr. Brand.)--Witness---You always
acted like a gentleman to me.

This question was put two or three times, but no
distinct answer was given, and the Chief Commis-
sioner told the witness that the Jury must have an

answer.

To further questions from Mr. Brand, witness an-
swered that she had seen Mr. Brand drive the waiter
out of his room. Had known Mr. Brand before he
came to the hotel. Should not have any fear to be
in the room with Mr. Brand if he were released from
constraint and had a knife in his hand. Had been in
a room with Mr. Brand when he had a knife in his
hand. Did not think that the house smelt more
than others. When witness first saw Mr. Brand
did not think him exactly right, but he had been
much better within the last three weeks. Mr. Brand
had turned Mrs. Brand, Mary Petit, and the waiter
out of the room. Was only acquainted with the
servants in the hotel as fellow-servants. had never
heard of any persOn being confined in the hotel
under pretence of insanity before. Thought it would
be better tokeep Mr. Brand without a straight jacket,
as he would be more comfortable, and witness
would not again have to lift Mr. Brand's wine to
his lips.
By Mr. Abstmq—Considered Mr. Brand better
within the brit three weeka. Did not know how
much wine he drunk. Saw Mr. Brand run out of
the door with a knife and fork in his hand when he
escaped from the keeper. Ho got as far as the
Horse Guards. He threw the knife and fork on the
mat of the door. Mr. Brand did not flotirtsh the
knife and fork about. Saw Mr. Brand strike Scott,
his keeper. After Mr. Brand got borne, a straight
jacket was put upon him, and he said he would
make his escape out of the window, Witness
could not speak the name which Mr. Brand called
the waiter.—( Hera the witness evinced much hesi-
tation; at length she communicated to Mr: Whit-
marsh the words, which are unfit for ptiblicetion,
well as the evidence as to Mr. Brand's feelings re-
specting the waitera.)—Witness had been called by
Mr. Brood to come and sit with him. Mr: Brand
complained of smells which he told witness came
through the boards, and that bad sort of pevie
in the house created them. Mr. 'Brand's worti,
were, " that tbe smells came front bad. sort of
people." He might have said unnatural people.
'Mr. Brand considers witness to be a real woman.
—(A laugh.).—Mr. Brand had eallid witness
to sit with him after having turned his wife and
Mary out 'of the room, saying that he wanted wit-
ness and another real woman to be along with him.
A. scene of this kind happened'on ssittrday or Sun-
day week, Mrs. Brand let her scissors tau, and
Mary Petit her cotton ball, when Mr. Brand sent
them out of the room, and called witness to sit
with him. Had heard Mr. Brand say that the
porter should leave England, or lie Would. Wit-
ness had gone many times to the water-closet with
Mr. Brand, ThoUght the request extraordinary.
No other gentleman had asked such 'a, thing. Had
never heard Mr. Brand give a reason for having wit-
twos and Mary Petit to go with hint. She was
asked and went. Bud gone with him after he came
four or five weeks into the house up to the present.
Had never had any conversation with Mr. Brand ou
the state of his mind. Mt'. Brand bad said to wit:-
nese that he had had a great deal of trouble, enough
to turn him out of hits mind, but that he was not
mad or insane. Mr. Brand had never said to wit-
ness that be was confused in his intellects.

By Mr. Brand—Witneee would consider it a
crime to stick a knife into the body of any person
,who would attempt to confine her as a madman.
Mr. Brand was quiet when he had all he wanted
—his brandy-and-water, his cigars, his' lemonade,

and wine. Had never seen a waiter attempt to kiss
Mr. Brandon his way to the closet.
By the CHIEF COMMISSIONER—There were no
smells from the water-closet. Mr. Brand expressed
his feelings about the smells three weeks ago. Mi.
Orton, the keerer, and Mary, had gone to the water-
closet within the last few days with Mr. Brand.
By Mr. Commissioner BLUNT—The window from
which Mr. Brand said he would escape was on the
second floor.

Mr.-Whitmarsh—You have not yet ansa ered the
question whether or not you have erer seen any
thing in Mr. Brand to induce you to believe that a
straight jacket ought tube plated upon him? Witness
—I swear I have nor.

By Mr. AUSTEN—Captain Rowley was intro-
duced by Mrs. Brand to Mr. Brand as the Duke of
Wellington.
Elizabeth John was called and questioned by Mr.
Brand—Bad seen Mr. Brand many times, and
always considered hint sane. Mr. and Mrs. Brand
had always appeared happY,hefore the mad doctors
came to see him.

By Mr. AUSTEN—Hd not seen Mr. Brand since
June.

Tyrrell-Fairhead, of Sutton, was questioned by
Mr. :Brand—,Was carpenter to Mr. Brand. Received
orders fur a coffin from Mf. Brind for a funeral at
BawdsleY. Kni done other work for Mr. Brand.
Never considered him mad. Considered Mr. Brand
had gone the cheapest way to work in using his own
timber in building,. Mr. Brand was quite collected
in settling his accounts. Witness considered Mr.
Brand quite in his senses, and would not be afraid to
be alone with Mr. Brand if released froM constraint.
Had purchased wood ,of Mr. Brand at fair prices.
Never saw the slightest symptoms of insanity in Mr.
Brand.

Mr J. Coope,a director of the-Pelican Insurance
(Hike, und Mr. Semler, another of the directors,
spoke •to the fact simply . of Mr. Brand's having
mortgaged part of his property for the sum of 8,0001.
3001. of which was still due.

Cross-examined by Mr. Brand—Could not say
that any of the clerks in the Pelican office were liable
to take fits of the ague when persons culled on busi-
ness at the olliee.-41...aughte0
James Piddington, a land-agent, &re., residing in
flattop-garden, had a conversation with Mr. Brand
that morning. It was on the subject of farming.
The courersution was as sensible on the part of Mr.
Brand as most people's—thought Mr. Brand was in
his sober senses, in reference to agricultural con-
cerns, Mr. Brand geld that he grew turnips without
manure, which he reserved against winter. Consi-
dered Mr. Brand's plan as a judicious orie taking
into consideration the light and smuly soil of which
Mr. Brand spoke at the time. The witness.then
went into further details respecting Mr. Brand's
mode of farming, as-stated that morning►, all which
witness considered to be consistent with the most
improved or judicious modes of husbandry.

Cross-examined by Mr. AUSTEN-- Witness had
never seen Mr. Brand till that morning; the con-
versation was alerted by Mr. Brand; was not car-
tied to him ; went of his own accord with a friend;
stated, if summoned to give evidence of Mr.Braod's
state of mind before Commissioners, would attend ;
only knew of Mr. Brand through the medium of the
public newspapers.
By Mr. Pmwstoug—Mr. Brand's mode of farm-
ing is generally adopted in Suffolk, especially on
light soils.
Mr. Marriott, one of the Magistrates of Queen-
square, examined—Thinks that it was in July last
that Mr. Brand was brought before the Magistrates
for assaulting Mr. Hurris ; remembered being struck
with the propriety of Mr. Harris's conduct on that
occasion; 'though, both from the verbal evidence on
oath, and from the tenonr of the letters written by
Mr. Brand to the Duke of 'Wellington and Sir
Robert Peel, he (witness) could come to no other
conclusion than that Mr. Brand's mind was consider-
ably effected ; required him to give sureties that he
would keep the peace; the Magistrates knew in
such case: that some delay in finding the bail takes
place; embraced that opportunity of having the
opinion of the medical attendant of Tothill-fields
prison relative to Mr. Brand. Witness was not
aware that Mr. Brand had beau placed in a straight
waistcoat when committed to Tothill.fields.

Cross-examined by Mr. Brand—Witness is a paid
Magistrate. All Police Magistrates in the metro-
polis are paid.
Charles Dunn, a surgeon in Manchester-build.-
ings, ealled.—This witness complained of some
" dastardly attack" which he said had been medi-
tated or committed against him; from whom pro-
ceeding., however, did not sufficiently appear.
Witness believed on , his oath that if Mr. Brand
were not a man of very strong mind, the conduct
of such men us Dr. Paris, Alderman Wood, and
others, would have been sufficient to drive him mad.
--(Murmurs.) .
Chief Commissioner Pntwasonn—Really, Sir,
if that be the way in which you intend to deliver
your evidence, I am nof surprised that you should
have to speak of attacks upon you.—(A laugh.)

Examined by Mr. Brand—Witness had prepared
a history of Mr. Brand's case; ho did not have it
with him ; he had not yet received it from the
printer.—(A laugh.)--Had known Mr. Brand since
Friday week.—(Elere the witness was entering into
a narrative, rather than submitting to examination.)
Mr. Commissioner WIIITMARBII complained of the
witness's manner; it was little other than an insult
to the Court.
_ _

The witness said he tires Willing to withdraw if
the Court pleased. The examination, however, was
resumed. Witness thought there was a great in-
justice.done to Mr. Brand, and therefore it was that
the witness bad given his attention to the case.
Several letters from Mr. Brand to , witness were here
put in and read. They were dated severally during
the past week.
They complained against the Com-
missioners for not allowing Mr. I3rand to choose his
own medical and legal advisers.—(A general buret
of dental from the Jury.)--Witness was of opinion
that all men were mad at times.—(A laugh.)
By Mr. Brand—l solemnly swear that. Ido not
think you more insane than any other man. Consi-
dered Mr. Brand to be of just perception, and
capable of reasoning soundly on any subject ; no
insane man was capable of writing as Mr. Brand
was, Considered his conduct strictly correct in
every sense of the word; it was impossible for an
insane person to address such a speech to a jury. as
Mr. Brand had delivered in the present Commission
of Inquiry; his manner also of examining and cross-
examining witnesses was another proof of sanity.—
Insanity generally might be traced or indicated by a
certain, tension of the temples, suffusion, of the eyes,
irregular' pulse, tongue furred, &c. Witness had
not observed' any of these symptoms in Mr. Brand.
A habit of smoking cigars might 'have the effect of
rendering the tongue furred. Witness had been in
several mnd-houses, and had , seen. professionally
More than 100 madmen. Had no hesitation, from
all he had seen of Mr. Brand, in saying that he saw
no reason for placing him in constraint.
Cross-examined by Mr. A USTEN••••••Hati not heard
the evidence of Sir 0. Tuthill, Dr. Paris, or Dr.
Sutherland. Declared he did not knew if hei waited
on Mr. Brand by invitation or by his own act,
Waited upon Mr." Brand because witness, was in-
dignant thut Mr. Brand had to conduct his own case.
sHtownMarr.)
His visits to Mr. Brand were objected to by Mrs.
Brand, who declared that be (Mr. Dunn) bed done
his
some othkerkpersens at
ridwrongr
sit;
tisdeinndgi:::F In
tßkrett nd
coarse Oeefk onv thei4). t
Brand, that gentleman had told him of' having seen
replies
the likenesses of his wife and
Witness
at
didof the
et
witness's replies
dis-
played exhibition.
reference h i
insanity.biti o t it .0
he was plaintiff. for defamation, in which

Mr. -A
usTim—Then the action stands thus—
Dunn V. Mr. Justice Best ? ; it hiss
Vern compromised.
By the CHIEF COMMIIISIONIta--1 did not examine.
Mr. Brand as to his insanity, for I did not think
him insane. I questioned him la to. his bodily
health only, without questioning Mr. Brand as to the

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