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THE SUN, LONDON, AIONDAY, JULY 8, 143

t IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, JULY 6.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'Clock,
On the motion of Mr. GROTE, the Carlow EleCtioh CoMmittet
obtained leave to sit, notwithstanding the sitting of the HoUstt.
Sir M. WOOD presented a pttitiOn from the Anti-Bridge-Toll
Association, pray ing the House to take means for effecting the
opening of the Metropolitan Bridges. He moved that it be printed,
AS he intended to call the attention of the House to It upon a future
occasion.

On the motion of Mr. F. MAULE, the Hou-e went into Com-
mittee on the Factories Bill.

Lord ASHLEY complained of the conduct of the Government
upon this Bill. At ten o'clock this morning, he had received se-
veral long amendments which he had not had time even to glance
at. That was altogether evading the wholesome rule of giving
notice of amendments which were intended to be proposed.
Mr. FOX MAULE said it was not his fault that the proposed
amendments had not been in the hands of Members at an earlier
If the Noble Lord objected to going on with them this day, they
might be postponed for future consideration,
On clause 18 being read,
Sir J. GRAHAM objected to it, as it gave the Inspectors such
large discretionary powers on the subject of education.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said the elause was intended to obviate
the difficulties which had hitherto existed on the subject of educa-
tion in factories. Care would be taken that proper persons were
appointed as Inspectors.

Mr. LANGDALE proposed to add to the clause the folkwing
words : Provided always that no such rules as aforesaid, nor such
approval of Inspector as of resaid, shall authorise the education of
any chill in su h school in any religious creed other than that pro.
fessed by the parents or surviving parent of such child, or in ease
of orpha is, to which theguardian or godfather or godmother, of such
orphan shall object.

Mr. COLQUHOUN opposed the amendment.
Lord J. RUSSELL thought it very important to have a regula-
tion of this kind, because if there were not a stop would be put to
all education, as many parties could not send their children to the
National Schools on account of the Ca•echisin being taught there.
Mr. LANGDALE considered the prov,so as so very important
that he would divide the House upon it, and if defeated, he would
take the sense of the House upon it on every future stage of the
Bill.

Mr. SLANEY thought as they differed about mere words, and
both were anxious for the same principle, would it not be better
that they should postpone the clause. It was, indeed, a most im-
portant one. If the clause were carried as it stood it would be a
great practical grievance upon the Catholics, and he hoped time
for consideration would be given.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM suggested that the proviso should be
altered so that no child should be educated in any religious
creed, against the declared wish of the parent, or adopted parent.
He thought those words would meet all the difficuities,
The t lause as amended by Sir James Graham was then agreed to,
and the Clause ordered to stand part of the Bill.
On Chose 19 being put which gave legislative power to the In-
spectors to require such an account of the work done in
a factory, and the persons employed as he might think necessary,
Lord STANLEY objected to the clause, and moved as an amend-
ment—That registers should be kept by the occupier of every fac-
tory, according to the form in the schedule to the Act annexed.
Mr. M. PHILLIPS objected to the clause, as arbitrary and un.
called for.

Mr. BAINES objected to the clause.
Mr. F. MA ULE thought that no good could be effected by de.
priving the inspectors of the power of making regulations for fac-
tories. As the law at present existed the Inspectors could make
rules for one factory one day, and rescind them the next, but by
the present Bill the rules laid down by the, inspectors must be
uniform.

Mr. BRISCOE objected to the clause.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought it would be impolitic to lay
down a strict rule to be followed by the inspectors, because the re-
sult of that would be that the provisions of the Act would be conti-
nually violated, and Parliament would have to be appealed to con-
stantly to amend the provisions of the Act.
The amendment was then agreed to.
Mr. N. PHILLIPS moved to strike out the latter part of the
clause, giving the power to the Inspector to require the occupier of
a factory to send to him any information with relation to the per-
sons employed and the work done, which he might deem necessary
for the performance of his duties.
Mr. F. MAULE objected to the motion.
Mr. BOLLING thought the Inspectors should only have the
power of making extracts from the registry.
Mr. BRISCOE thought the latter part of the clause necessary.
Mr. F. INIAULE was surprised that the objection should come
from those who professed to he the children's friend.
Lord ASHLEY thought the clause ought to remain in its pre.
sent state.

Mr. W PATTEN moved as an amendment to the clause—That
the inspectors should have the power of making extracts from Ow
registry.

After a desultory conversation, strangers were ordered to with-
draw, but no division took place, Mr. W. Patten withdrawing his
amendment.
On the motion of Mr. F. MAULE the following words were
added to the clause—" that no information sent by the occupier of
any factory shall be admissible in evidence against him, or in any
proceeding for the recovery of a penalty."
Sir JAMES GRAHAM moved as an amendment that any in-
formation required by Parliament should be defrayed by the
Treasury.
Mr. F. MAULE objected to the amendment, which was with.
drawn.

The clause as amended, was then ordered to stand part of the
Bill.

Clause 20, regulating the whitewashing of factories, was agreed
to, after a few verbal amendments.

Clause 21 was postponed at the suggestion of 111 r. A GLIONBY.
On clause 22 being proposed, which provided for the appointment
of Inspectors,

Mr. W. PATTEN mewed as an amendment that the Inspectors
should be compelled to reside in the district ever which they pre.
sided.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM suggested the postponement of the
clause until after the Committee had decided upon the 23d clause,
relative to the appointment of sub.inspectors. He thought it would
be far better to increase the number of inspectors, and have no sub_
inspectors at all.

Mr. P. THOMSON thought it would tend to great convenience
if one inspector, to be called the inspector general, resided in
London, and the others in the districts over which they presided
(Hear, hear.) He thought the sub inspectors might be rendered
more respectable, by giving them higher salaries.
Mr. W. PATTEN said there were the greatest complaints against
the sub inspectors both on part of the masters and the children.
Sir J. GRAHAM thought that the number of Inspectors and
sub.itispectorS should be limited as well as their salaries by the
present Bill. He thought if that was drone it would give great sa.
tisfastion.

Mr. F. AfAULE thought if any change was to be made with
respect to sub-inspectors, it should be done personally.:
Mr. M. PHILLIPS suggested the withdrawal of clauses 22 and
23 for the present, in order that the proposition of his Hon. Col.
league might be taken into consideration by the Government.
Sir J. GRAHAM trusted the clauses would be postponed, and
made a motion to that effect.
After a few observations from Lord Stanley, Mr. Harvey; Sir
J. Graham, Lord Teignmouth, Mr. Fox Maule, and Mr. &alley,
strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the Committee divided on
the postponement of clauses 22 and 23.
When there appeared—.
For the postponement..
Against it .. ...... ......
Majority ............ ......
. .......... . —2
The House then resumed, the Chairman •
reported progress, and
obtained leave to sit again on Thursday next.
The Glass Duties Bill was read a third time and passed.
The Bills a Exchange Bill (No. 2.) was read a third time and
paled.

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HIGHWAY RATES BILL
Sir
ursd C RELL postponed the Committee on this Bill to
Mr. E. TENNENT presented a petition from Belfast against the
Tha.
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Belfast Water Works Bill.
Mr. PARKER, on behalf of the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
obtained leave to bring in a Bill to continue for one year, the As.
sexed Composition Act ; also a Bill to continue the drawback on
soap.

The Bills were then brought in, read a first, and ordered to be
read a second time on Monday next.
The House adjourned at a Quarter.past Four o'Clock to Monday.