The Sun.
London, England, 1808-12-15 00:00:00

FEENCH PAPERS.

TWELFTH BULLETIN OF THE ARMY OF SPAnc-
" ARANDA, Nov. 28.—At the battle of Tudela,
the General of Division Lagrange, charged with the
attack of Cascante, ordered his division to march by
Echelon, and put himself at the head of the first
division, composed of the 25th regiment Of. Liglit
Infantry, which fell upon the enemy with such im-
petuosity, that 200 Spaniards were killed in the first_ .
charge of the bayonet. The other echelons could
not come up. This singular intrepidity spread' Con-
sternation and disorder among the troops Of Casta-
nos. It was at this moment that General Legrange,
who was at the head of the first echelon, received a
ball which wounded him dangerously. On the 26th
the Duke of Elaingen advanced by Sarracona to
Borja. The enemy destroyed Go tumbrels, which
they had at Sarracona.
" General Maurice Mathieu arrived on the f2stb
at Borja,.pursuing the enemy,' and every morq,;
taking fresh prisoners, the number of which already
amounts to 5000; they are all troops of the
No quarter was given to any of the peasants <<''l°
were found in arms. We took 37 pieces of uno"11. •
Disorder and delirium have seized upon their leader;*
Their first proceeding was a violent manifesto, i4l
which they declared war against France. They ii;
puted to her all the disorders of their Court, 111
degeneracy of the race which reigned, and the bas°,..-
ness of the great, who, for many- years, have
trated themselves in the most abject manner lit 1,:o
feet of the idol, which they load with all their ill%
now hp is fallen. They have a very, fj tlse idea I.f
Germany, Italy, and France, of S;anish Monlis,
they compare them to the Monks which esigi ttl
those countries. We find among the Beneeietinesi
the 13ernardins, 4c. in France and Italy, a crovid;.°..,
men remarkable in science and literature ; ciev ,
tinguish themselves by their education,: and by
honourable and useful class to which they bet"ilg'
The Spairi4) Monks, on the contra, y, ale chol
from the dregs of the people ; they arc ignorant
drunken, and can only be compared to people
played in slaughter-houses they are ignorani,..,' i 5!
have the very manner and appearance of it. 1-
only over the lowest tilas,es that they Nye ant „
#101a:
once. A citizen would think himself distionotti -
by admitting a monk, to his table, A. to the
tgoate spaoish peasants lee nenly compklro"--
to the Fellahs of Egypt ; they have no prorrtYr,
every thing belongs to the Monks, oF'4Oute i b‘v.1..1
till house. The liberty to keep an inn is a
right, yet, in a countty so favovied by natOres
find neither post nor ions ; time ta;es.were ale' tlatea.
and belong to the Lords. The great have deg°g/').•,,,
rated to such a degree, that they are without o'diye
with, tit merit, and even without influence.
every day find at Valladolid, and beyond it,,
derable magazines of 'amts. The English taithi."'n
executed thlt part of their ehgagetpent ; they'
mised muskets.‘ poigpards, and libels ; these tilile9l4
have sent in prolusion. Their inventive spirit t
been signalized ; and they have carried to. a g,4.
lekv,lh the art of spreading hhels, as of late they. 11a
disw,guished theruseives, by titer tire-rockets•
the evils, all the scourges which can at uuttlickn,
come from London."

VlElitiA, Nov. 25.-711 e Court Qaufte. hag 174131 P.
lished tht follow ing spit*, respecting Tin keY:utas'
The great camp of Daud-Pucha, near o
tinople, now occupied by the particulat;r93 101
Mustapha Bairactar, and by the Seimato-•whfr.
has orQn:.zed with inconceivable promptitude".
the others are gone to,the grand army of Pri,liir4
or returned into their provinces. Ql'4 his "°"'llto
the troops of the Heys and /Vans of Asia, fklrffi „It/
greater part. These, , before their detiatturg, "tbo
gaged themselves by a mast:sacred oath, before,o,
Grand Vizier, to sacrifice all their pepoal
Sites }qui to appear at the first signal, to defekl'oey
Mahometan religion and the empire. fsmoilo„.10,
of 4eres, Asniann Oglu, and Kaleangli ,
were the first who set out they were folkove-
the celebrated Vivify Oglu. itt
" Mustapha iiractar Ss incessantly .occup;e tQ
a
augmenting the Seynians, which he will roi4•e44
'16i;,99.0, men ; they are to have red, gren, -,ta
white uniforms. These troops will 1*41.402,,i,1t
hulas i Goo men each. There will be ics-7-)!
bultik a Binbaschi, Muhl:l3in (two Stiff Offee;4;
16 Jushasches, and USD Oub.ischi (Cartjusa;tlij
Lieutenants), The Grand Vizier has entirelY„.eof,
away the obstacle which resulted from a tliiterel' itr
religion,. and which the Porte has hitherto ''',/e
violably respetied. Turks and Greeks arc 11)
indiscriminately in the corps Of Sevmans. Mu.st"bi4
has already, at lindschuk, many Greeks ai""6,,fir
best troops, and on the 12th O&ober, his eowl t,oi
' and his banker made their entry tinder an oe'lf
sixty Seymans, who were all Armenians. th °f
" The Grand Vizier caused, in the 11°11 foil
. October, a great number of casgis (rower,; 01-1; ,it
ermen) to come to the environs of the col'ulllit%
order to make them serve on board the fleet'
ancient corps of )" an isso r ies every day decrel/s:jiliL',
The Grand Vizier has just caused to be,exee"l`
mot powerful supporters of that corps,w lio were
most powerfully opposed to the Nizainged" al
ci-decant Siemen Baschi, and the Inspecforso'i4,
Arsenals, Khwigi Oglu and Mos!aph'a Aga•
last having called'to the 25th Cohort of Jaitissar'',
to
mewdilich
a' ielylie killedbelonged, si'
him sblot,,avn of the i‘ l"
sabresl'ii)hl;
eNecutioner imitiziatt ly cut oil his head, :is We
that of his unforium:te convan4ni. 401.
" The Grand Seignior h ,s, by a Decree,. f,ti„ii
to the Vizier unlimited hot ers 4;r the atignieut3,.;cr
of the forces, both by sea and laud. "I' his Mi111:10,
completely ',aid the new troops before the 1-roni,
mencetnent of the Fa.t, and what is very julrillorlY
has establi,hed a Chamber of Finances, particn.oced
for the S:yinans, at the he'd of which he has 1 . los
the former Treasurer, •Beciedsch Effendi. 0
stt,'ciolt
rcplaced• the Mmister of F4ll.OlCci bY the, 4itiV
Crausch-bachi (Marshal of the Court),
Achmet .Etfenui, who has for soccessor fia,r toy
Mehmisch Effendi, if:if-me:ly President of oce
Acco.unts. Thanks be to the indefatigable v'g.; hir
and energy of Mustapha Bairactar, all ihe.abeS,....•
portant changes have - been peaceably elf ton
Egypt continues to enjoy the most peri".vidi
quillity. "Khe Paella of Bagdad pursues
goer the ituportant advantages which he 1)3,7,ec. 9•
gained over the Wecahabites."—Monileur,filvizier
CONsTANTINVII,F OCT, GOP ,

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las caused the Bachi Aga;Commandant °r ale Ma-
rine, and the fanatical ene:ny of every thing that
Was Turkish, to be beheaded. This event has
caused a great sensation, in this
capital. We have
equally astonished at learning of the deposition
"liag_gs.Pactia, COmmandant of the Castles of. the Dardanelles, who has been sent into exile. He has
,been replaced by Rahill Paeha, who, is considered
lias as a zealous i,artizau of the Porte. M: Bosgovicli
Presented his credentials as Charge d'Affaires
from Prussia. •

NU,REMBURGIT, Nov. 20.—The Archduke Ferdi-
nand of Austria, brother of the Empress, has been
appointed Commander .in Chief of the Austrian
troops in. Bohemia, Moravia,,and Austrian. Silesia.
We are still without any positive intelligence of ate
e:,erations oldie EngliSh squadron, which has reap-
Peared in the Adriatic Gulph, and which menaced to
attack the Russian ships in the port of Trieste, as
the last letters from the latter place make no men-
lion.of host lie operations.

PEON! THE MO NITEUR•OF THE 4TH OF DECEMBER:
An English Brig, 'which sailed. from Portsmouth
on the loth of Noverribetto St. Andero, was taken
til
the 20d, in that port.. We have taken some ex-
esrli froni the JournalS found on board. HE •
which have
rst.sort.A.Pa, of:Nov. 5.---'.' Otir troops
hvi
been
lifi-Itanded at Corunna are to march upon Burgos by t. -
_s 151. 37.00... men. '- There they will joitLthe:troops from
i Iscq, under the command of General Moore. The re-
for
in(lef of our troops in Portugal will embark in the Tagus
ceptne mouth of the Ebro, and from thence march for Bar..
na,.
~
! Note of the Ilioniteur.,--Admirable planned cam-
paign ! The. Ettli4ll reckon without their host.
They will not go to-the mouth of the Ebro,.but *ill
remain at the mouth of the Tagus. They are no
doubt sufficiently. prudent to have prepared an en-
trenched ramp to protea their embarkation on the
approaching day when the Continent will be freed
fr°M their presence.
, .
, .'Rom THE SUN of 6.—" We are convinced that
''°,parte has t ~t'2, -•- Nov.
disposable men, and if he had,
he na's trot the n'-eans°ol?-m°aint.aining them' during a winter
campaign in a CHUM I'V like &pain."
.:.:-/Yofe of the Monitezir.—This article deserves no
attention, except a, .it affbrds us, an opportunity to
at ,irrem.ark how easy it is-to dupe ilie English people._
rec,;li,
4, 1 eszreat effrontery or great ignorance to assert
that 14'rante has rot .200,000 disposable men, when
she has 800,000 at her disposal ; and that she cannot
maintain them during a winter campaign, in a coun-
try like Spain, when it is well known, that in Castile`
alone, and at thiS season, there is a superabundance of
.. Corn, wine, sheep, barley, and straw. Is it not evident;
that with the 4 or 5000 ammunition carriages which
comprise the equipage of the French armv,'six Mil-
lions .of rations may be conveyed, on which it may
subsist for a long time. The English always em-
ploy the same means. •At the ume of the -
tion:to Egypt, they pretended that an armyexpedi could
zot live in that fertile country. They thought their
People so iimoratit as not to know that corn, rice,
e,
Sugar, and coffee, abound in Egypt.
THE suN.—" According to accounts from Lisbon, a part
of the English Army will embark for the Mediterranean and.
oft anded in Catalonia. The .People of Lisbon continue to
rejoice at the departure of the French troops ; and on the
al tfi, the English Officers gave a very spindid entertain-
ment to the Nobility and principal Merchants of that City."
Note of the Moniteur.—The English will not land
in Catalonia. As to Lisbon, if the people of that
City rejoiced arthe departure' of the French, they
Will. rejoice much more sincerely at the departure of
the English; and'if the French give splendid repasts,
:,I will be to thank the ladies. of Lisbon for the bril-
• "ant balls they have received from them.
1 Can any thing be more ridiculous than the emu-
tinijc,l manifested by the English' to, contend with
, . eq`land forces against the French ? France has in
500N134 a formidable army, and, at the same time,
G I°°o men forming the army cf the Rhine, in '
Naples y'
11 -`l3' ; 100,000 are, at Boulogne; 40,000 at-
ii s-; 40,000 in p‘ilmatia ; and 80,000 in Italy.
got have war taken plsce in Germany, that would
fugal.lave,Prevetned the conquest of Spain and Ppr-
s
sehnt France . W,ish io consider pre-
as the same with France of former times.
e can have goo,ooo men., under arms without
:9- exhausting, herself; she can have, and she has,
0,000
Cavalry. This number way be' increased,
~ ,41, ivTessary, till England shall have made peace.—
.., 11-Uhe English merchandize which has. been found at
ilboa, at St. Andero, and in the ports Of Asturias,
•-, are sufficient to pay,the eXpences of the war.
;11itom TiliTYtiaLic ADVERIASER, Nov. zo.—" We larn
Ni,,a!,70.10 English have rec..ived orders, to go from Malta and
to9' into Spain, ,We much wish that this maybe true;
‘1: it is in Spain that the fate of Sicily and Italy will be
j.te 'ided,
sand it is thither that our united forces ought to be dire
.
.
thole of the Moniteir.--The fate of Italy is fixed :
si!, a Sicily will not. be decided.in Spain, but in
c,'Y, as that of Capri has' been at Capri.
tiist's to the power of France in Spain, eight days after,
,' fr,t, .°.t)lling of the campaign it extended to the
! Catlers of Portugal, and when this shall be read in
oution lit Will the E i extend 'much beyond Madrid, and
. ) will see froth the top of the Rock of
Gibraltar ,
the French standard flying, in the same
tnanner
• as from the tops of their masts, and out at
sea, to
Will
From Y see it flying on the forts of Lisbon.
beaten . the same Paper.—" Christophe continues to be
lion.
.Itiall the engagement.; he has had with It's rival Pc.
?eh anciedwby should not be surprisal if the Squadron coin-
Goodall, winch s.ilect some time shmild •
~,4' been ;:ent to bring to this Country thesince,
utiturtunitte
t.hristope."
Aole.—Christophe will have the fate reserved for
the friends of England. The laud will always fly
torn under their feet.
The flifiniteur of the sth contains a statement of
papers
numbers of the Spanish armies from the Spanish
raper_s, making the total amount to 194,000. The
afonzteur adds the following note : ,
Vastly well ! But after ten days campaign, and
±,cit)iy three detions, those of Burgos, Espinosa, and
4dela, let us see how many remain. There are
not 4000 men collected together. Their armies
nave existed."

__,___—_
, A shocking accident occurred yesterday afternoon.
%Int! of the lads. belonging to the two-penny post-
"ice, in driving his horse between a cart and. a
l''''ll.gon in Newgate;-street, just opposite Newgale,
\vas thrown down, and one of the wheels going
..._‘er his legs, actually severed them from his body.
". was instantly taken to Sr. Bat tholomew's Hos-
PU, but there is little hope entertained of 116 re-
9ver.ing.

COURT OF. INQUIRY.

TENTH DAY. -CHELSEA HO3PITAL, Dec. /4.

EXAMINATION OF SIR A. WELLESLEY, `BY SIR

-BUR RA RO, CONTINUED FROM YESTERDA Y.

Q. What distance was it from the British yto
Torres Vedras It was nine mii s from Vimiera
to Torres Vedras, and the British army was always.
on its march an hour before day-light.
Q. Is Torres Vedras less distant from. Vimiera
than Mafra is, and how much ?—A. I imaaine
Torres Vedras is 1 2 miles distant, from Malra-2Vi-
miera is tom 17 to 19
Q. If the French at Terras Vedras had known of
the march of the BritiSh army, could nut they, have
reached Mafra first, and have gained reinforcements
from St. Julien and Cascayes ?—A. I conceive not.
The British would have been at Mafia first, as they
would have marched an hour before day-fight. ,The
enemy's line of retreat would probably have been
by CabeSa and Montelavar. I always estimated the
French force in Lisbon, St. Julien, Cascayes, and the,
batteries, to be about 3000. They were troops in
whom much confidence could not be placed for
operations in the field, being principally Hano-
verians, Italians, and.people from Dilmatia ; and as
the British Admiral was anchored off Cascayes with
the fleet, and had7with him the Royal Veteran Bat-
talion for the purpose of alarming the enemy upon
those points, and as it was settled with him, that as-
we advanced, he should disembark that battalion, and
the marines of the fleet, in the.neighbourhood of the
Rock of Lisbon, I conceive the French' would not
have ventured to weaken the garrisons and the forts
.on the Tagus to reinforce thesarmy in the field.

Q. If it had been necessary to attack Cascayes and
Fort St. Julien, how did you propose to get heavy
cannon ?—A. From the ships. It had been so settled
before I left England, and a store-ship lay off for that
purpose. •

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Q. After the aiStion of the 17th, and before Sir J.
Moore „landed, could not you have received supplies
had you so wished ?—A. After the action of the 17th,
I was nearer Santarem than Sir J. Moore's division
was when it was in the Montego, and could cer-
tainly have arrived there before Sir J. Moore could
have arrived, in a state of equipment, from the Mon-
tego. I conceive that there were two distinCt lines
of operation in Portugal, and two Modes of support-.
ing these operations. One by the Sea-coast, and de-
pending on the communication with the coast for.
-supplies of all kinds;' the other by Saniarem, and de-
pending for its ,support on its communication with
the Montego. There was a shelter in that river for
the small vessels and transports, which would then.
in faCt have become a depot; and the country, on
the Banks of the Montego, which was settled and
'organized under the Government of Oporto, would,
have afforded means, even after the-army under my,
'command was equipped, of keeping up the coin,
munication'hetween the Montego and Lyria, which,
place would have furnished the means of communi-
cating with the army at Santarem. As there was
no shelter for the troops at St. Martin's and Nazara,
and-as those places. had not been settled under the
Government of Oporto, and Nazara had beben.hurnt
by the FrenCh; the depit could not have been form-
ed at those places) and if
_it
,11ad been possible to
no
form it, there would have been Means of com-
municating with it. Therefore, conceive, that
after the adion of the 17th of Aug4st, it, was not
expedient that I should change my nue
,of opera-
tions with a view to the reasons only and that it
was best that the corps Which 'should take the line
at Santarem, should communicate with the Mon-
tego.

' Q. Do you not think that qie viauallers which
vialuallod Sir J. Moore at Santarem, might also
have vianalled_you ?—A. If „I had been at Santa=
rem, and all the previous arrangements had been
made for supporting the corps under ,my command
at that place, as detailed in my letters of the Bth,
loth, and i2th of Augtist, to Sir H. Burrard, I
conceive.the corps under my command might have
been so victualled.

Q. What distance. do you suppose it to be from
Cascayes to Santarem, and why would you not have
availed yourself of the 'arrival of General Anstru-
ther's brigade I should think it 40 'miles, if
not more, from 'Carcayes to Santarem. I was not
informed of :the arrival of General Anstruther's bri-
gade, until the morning of the 18th of August,—
They were then off the Berlinnes to the Southward
of Cascayes ; and I could not have• landed them
nearer .to Cascayes than where 'they did land, without
sending them back to the Northward . against- the
wind ; and either altering my position, or falling
back to Cascayes again, after the action of the 17th
of August, to facilitate a junction.
Q. How far was the place where General Anstru-
ther's brigade landed from Cascayes From 15
to 20 miles.

Q. How far was it from Monternorno ?—A. About
sixty miles.

Q. Might not the stores and provisions have been
there landed with safety ?—A. I conceive that the
formation of the depot of provisions and stores at
any'point • of the coast was very - precarious; and
that at the end of August and the beginning of Sep-
tember it became daily more-so. It might have
been effe6ted during a long course of fair weather,
but it was an operation which could not be calcu-
lated upon.

Q. Had the artilleryborses been landed, could not
those of your army have been given to the Coin-
missariat, or a' portion of the Worst of each corps ?-
-A, They might have been disposed of in that or any
other manner ; but it would have been useless to
have given them to the Commissatiat, as there were
no carts with the- Commissariat or in the country
which could be drawn by horses. (in answer to a
question from 'Lord 'Moira; Sir A. Wellesley ob-
served, that the only carts in the country were little
two-wheeled carts drawn by bulloeks.) •
Q. If the artillery horses could have been landed
could not waggons also have been landed, and have,:
been made use of by the Commissariat ?—A. I con-
ceive that there were not more waggons with the
artillery than were •required tOr carrying the stores;
but those waggons might have .been employed in
carrying the provisions, - had the, Commander in
Chief of the Army thought proper so to employ
them. •

Q.. Was, there no good ground at or near Matra
or Lisbon, for cavalry to act upon ?—A.. Iu any opi-
nloo cdt•;ilry can ,be used with advawave, nearly in

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all parts of Portugal; not i,n large bodies any where; to lirerent ,the Feeesch from, Crossing the rieer e ant
c,
• l but every where in small; and' theie '-Waa ground -he fart herastared, i he was. deSirous of this con
between Mafia and Liaboo, on winch cavalry could 'test *sakitiga-place near' "tosl.,isbone'having an rideal'
_have sited with , advantage. - the country= , -in the s winity of that
Q.- Did not the 18th, light dragoons embark in town. Sir A. Wellesley added, that if Sir John,;
the Thames on the 25th and 26th july ?e,--A. Ido • Moore's torps-shoul,f be brought down to Macseire,
not iecollet that I ever heard at what- time•the 18th Sir H. Burrard must relinquish all_ be advanntges
r lig-hedragooos embarked. As well as I can• remem- which might have been expeeted from .his- hare.:-
i bey, I imagine they were to come from England. g that bodywith, 'upon Santarem, with the view Of
Sir J. Moore's corps. 'cutting off the retreat of she French army, by
i Close of the examination of Sir A. Wellesley b
' Sir H. Burrard. y .the northward: Sir HarrY: Burrard repe'ated, that
' i' he thoright it advisable to bring-d
moo'soWn•-Sir John
' LLord•MotRA,---Sir H. Dalrymple and Sir 4.wei- 're . mrps, to render, certain those opera-
Lesley have declared, that if the Conveption by which tions. which appeared- to him to be doubtful. Sir
the French were allowed to evacuate Portugal' bad Arthbr *then asked Sir Harry Burrard whether he
not been entered into, the French army might have had received his letters•of the Bth and loth of Au=
passed the Tagus with full fOrce, and have involved. : gust, which recomniendeds the march of this rein-
the British army in a tedious course of operations, at forcemeat on Saotarem ? ....Sir Harry replied that he ,
a time when the-presence of the latter in Spain was " had received those letters, but he did notein reyeeva
peculiarly desirable. I wish to know from Sir H. sense, make any' comment:or observation on that':
Burrard, whether he thinks there was a possibility of, I proposed operatioti, Sir H. Burrard then wrote a
; the French ceossiog- the Tagus ; could General Ju- ,' letter. to• Sir J. Moore, which I did not see, but I una • not have so transported them after the 224 of, Au- i derstood it to be an order to come down the-coast'
gust ?
i with his divlsion. I beg leave to state, that, to the.
Sir 11. BURRARD.—Yt*S, in my opinion he might. :
best of My recollesaione this is the substance of- the
[ ' Lord Mot•ea.—Q. How does Sir H. •Burrard :'conversation that 'passed, 'though I-cannot pledge
thin' that this coat luSion is to be resisted:from the .' mysel! to the exaa words. •
coecurrence •of Gen. Junot -in the Conventioe, ' vie. Sir A.
,WeeeasenY.----Doea 'Colonel Torrens re-
f
that he thoUght the cildilions of the Co:e'en:ibis cancer my stating to Sir H. Burrard, the probability,
more favourable to France, than protratting the if we did not move. to attack, the French, that they
_..._
campaign in the runnier in which it has been repre- would attack us ?—Ai I do recoiled Sir Arthur's '
seeted it was in his pewee to protrad it ?—A. I con Imaking that observation. to Sir H. Burrard, and adds.
ceive that General Junot had his motives which we ina at the same time, that a i',teat expenditure of
„. 0 b
were reselv'ed to- Counteraa. The COnvention would provisions would be occaaioned• by waiting on A iik certainly.net have been Coneleded et all, had not the grolltld for Sir J. Moore, who could not be expected
French General °dicers laid' their hands
on their i fee some days,
Ij hearts, and said that no private 'prepare' or money , • Sir A. \V.—Does Colonel Torrens recoiled my
should be carried off by there army. • - 'stating to Sir H. Burrard the' probability of an ;A,
Lord Moita's two question§ Weres proposed to Sie creased difficulty in supplying the army with pre.
A, Wellesley.
visions when its numbers should be increased with-
, .
• Sir A. WELLESLEY.—.I readily answer the last of out any proportionate increase of means'--Col. T.---'--
the 'Noble Lord's ()oestrous; for with respect to the Ido put-fealty recoiled his making that observation.
first I have already given it as my opinion, that at ter Sir A. W.—Does Colonel' Torrens recolleet my
the :.2c2d of August the French had it in -their power stating to' Sir H. Burrard the probability that if the
to cross the 'rages. When I considered the expedi- enemy did not attack us they would fortify their po-
ency of allowing the French to evacuate Portugal by I
sitions between our army and Lisbon, during the dee
I. sea, I took into my contemplation British interests lay of our march ; and my stating, the .difficulty at
and British objets only, with the objects of our j turning fortified positions with cannon in that coon-
Allies as connected with those of Great Britain. . I ' try, on account of the narrowness of the roads ? • .
considered that the French army, from the relative l Col. T.—l do perfedly ; adding, , that the badness
situation of the two armies in Portugal, and from its
as well as the narrowness of the roads would render .•
having the military possession of the country, had a I the operation of turning the enemy's flank, in any
fair military right to withdraw by sea with their arms
position he might take up, extremely diffi ,cult.
and baggage.; and Ido not think it necessary for . Sir A. WELLESLEY.—Does Col. Torrens recellerl
.me to account for the motives which induced Gen. my sending hiM with orders to Gen..Fatreeand'Gen.
Junot to prefer the evacuation by sea to another f Anstruther's brigadei, before or immediarele at the'
line of operations, which,- without wishing to - say commencement of the battle of the 21-o CiT .-:.!.11!-7?
any thing disrespectful to him, might have been bad . Col. T.--I do recollect Sir•A. Wellesley's eepeing •
or unworthy, as well as against the feelings of the me with orders both to Gen. Kane and to Gen. Au-
country. It certainly •sloes not rest on me to ac- struther, on the commencement of thebattle of the
count ter Gen. Junot's conduet.
2lst August. •
Sir Hew Dalrymple was then requested to reply 1 Sir A. Weeeaseev.—What were they ?--Col. 'l',
to the two, questions by the Noble Lord. Sir A. Wellesley desired me to ride'as fast as could
Sir H. DA LH YAlPLE.—Criainly after the ?st of l to. General Anstate!ler and 'General Fale, and to
August the French were enabled to cross the ' Tagus. i convey to them his orders that they should not move.
As to the Convention, I have already stated to the froth the'position which they, occupied in the froee,
Court the nelsons wliich induced •rnes to think it ad-. of the village of Viiniere, without further diredions
vantageous to Great !Britain and her allies. It must from him. On my arrival at that position 1 found
that Geneeal Fans: leer advanced elitde way in front,
also be recollected that I reed particular instruetioos
ineexpellieg the French ti- ill lishon, to ~
to say prc.t-ett- and was engaged With some French light troops. .1.
their, retreat to Spain. Without prdtending •
followed pinta nd delivered these orders, and he cent.
'
hossefat thatSmight haves beeii.their intention, Leer.. sequently retired. I think this was about half past
tainly had no other means of preventing -such' a nine in the. morning, I cannot speak with accuracy.
movement: I cannot be aware of the motives that Sir'A. WELLESLEY.—Did I state generally to Col.
einduced General junot to cbticer in :the same ma- Torrens the reasons for giving those orders ?—Col.
T. Yes, partly.. I understood from Sir A. Welles.
Rife; he'doubtless thought he saw some advantages'
in it to the French interest which I could not discern, ley that. those Orders originated from the nature of
exeltisively of the greatenotive that must influence f• the ground in front of that position, which would
on all such occasions—to spare the useless effusion render it ineligible to remove from it ; •particularly as
of:blood. General Junot roust have seen in the ii he had observed a large French column 'forming in
measure his own advantage or that of the country, I the Wood in front, and evidently preparing to Make
one or the other. a vigorous attack on the centre.
Question from the Court to Sir H. Dalrymple.— Sir A. WELLESLEV.—Was t 01, Torrens present
On the change of circumstances in which the British when I recoMmended to Sir H. Burrard on the field
army was placed by the latter end of August, could of. battle, .on the 2 tst of August, to pursue our ad-
not you have resisted any conclusion of the pending vantages?—col. T.. I was.
negociation,?—A. I suppose that, from the change Sir A. WELLESLEY.—WiIIshe state what passed ?
of cirCumstances, met particularly, from the events Colt T.-e-lonnediately after we had defeated the •
of the enth and 31st August, when the landing of right column of the French army, which had made,
Sir J. Moore's corps 'was completed, I might have so its attack on our left, and . was then retreating in a
resisted; 'but I did not then think that other circum- , precipitate manner, Sir A. Wellesley rode to Sir H.
stances permitted of the negociat ion being protraeled ; Burrard, and said, " Sir Harry, DOW is your time to
and the four Lieutenatit-Geberals with whOm'l con- advance, the enemy are• completely beaten, ande.ve
suited on the occasion, seemed to •Me to concur in shall be in Lisbon in three days. 'We have a large
the same opinion—those Lieutenant-Geeerals were, body of troops which hate not'been in action ; let
Sir H. Bairrard, Sir J. Moore, Lieut. General Hope, • s
ua move themfrom the right on the road to Tolies '
and Lieut. General Frazer. • ' Vedras, and I'll follow the enany with the lett."—
' Lord Mote e.—The release of a large portion of Sir Heßurrard replied, that he thought a great deal '
the British army to ad in Spain having been assigned . had been done, very mach to' the credit of the
as a principal motive for aecekratiri' the conclusion troops ; but • that he did not think it advisable to
of the Convention in Portugal, how happened it that mote oft the ground in pursuit of the enemy. Sir
the march of Sir John Moore aveasso tardy ? . A.:Wellesley remarked at the time, that the troops
Sir H. flues? ssear: —I do not exaelly know in were perfectly prepared to advance, having provi-
point of fact when the British army commenced its sians ready cooked in their haversacks, accorchog to ,
March into Spain. When I left Portugal the opera the'orders of the clay before..
tion s •wai•ed tor nothing but notice from Madrid of Sir A. `V•,.—Does Col. "Torrens tecoileel my men-
the
,neeesskyrrangetnents for the movement of the ironing That the troops had plenty of ,ammunition ; '
that there were twelve clays bread Melte camp for
troops having been made in Spain, .which I had
reason daily to exped. ' - - the original numbers of the army ; and
_a st.nii-
,
Lord Mmea.—lt is. then to be understood by the ciency of every kind of store in the reserve e: iio
Court, that no arrangements had been made for the briades ? -
arrival of that reinfo;.ceinent in Spain, previous to the Col. T.—l'recolie'a Sir Arthur's mentioning tin .
Convention of Cintra ? • ,' , - was plenty of airimunition ; that the mules of. re-
Sir H, Daretymeee.'s--None that I know of. served musket ammunition were in the rear of the
Colonel Toatt EN s was culled in and re-ere:rained. -brigades ; and that we leid abondence of ordnance
Sir. A. WELLEsLE),;.—Wvie. you present in the stores and •provistene; but I cannot call to my re-
Brazen, when I had a conversation with Sir H. Bur- collection, whether he specified fit that moment the
e
rard, on the eveping of the 20th, of August. number of days prevision we had in camp.,
Col. Toitnees.---I was.. I was present in the Sir A. W. Did lon the 20th, order the-an:try to.
•
2 Brazen when Sir A. Wellesley made his report to march on the kst ?—He did.
Sir H. Burrard, upon the arrival of that officer in Sir A. W..*--Did I countermand those orders whenMaceira Roads. 'Sir A. Wellesley represented tp 1 returned from, the Brazen or, the evening' of the
him the state of the army under his command, the 20th ?—Col. T. Sir A. Wellesley., countermanded
situation of that. of the enemy, and the principles these orders inneiectiately on bis arrival in camp on
ou which he had cOndoe,ted the operations from the tae evening of the loth; in consequence of the di-
landing in Montego ; and further stated, he. had is-
.redions he had received from Sir H. Burrard to that
sued orders for the march of the eerily next morning. effeel. . .
. . , • .
Sir H. Burrard replied, that he did not consider it. . Sir A. WELLESLEY oaered•to the Court some act-
advisable to advance from that poiition, lentil the. clitional observazions to thoSe Contained. in the nar-
arMy should be reinforced by the division under the ratives he had already given:in. , They were to the
C ,IlDMilld .of Sii J. rvlovre: Sir A. Wellesley ob- following etfeel.—To gain pdssessioa of Lisbon? and
served, that he thought it of the utmost impoe- of the Tagus, had always appeared to him the seeat
twee to push forwards .by the nay of Matra, with ohjed•of the campaign. If the Court would rest:;
a %iew of turning the enemy's left flank, and to . .to the plan of the Freoch Engineers, that had bee.)
endeavour to bring die French army to the issue of submitted to them they would perceive that the e
a battle in the field, as near to Lisbon as possible, enemy had two, lines of retreat opeteto them.. Noe:
that we nil:, lit twail ourselves of a short distance it appeared to him that had'Sie j. Moore occupied
born the Tagus, by following tip the victory, so as : Sauterern, their retreat would have been cut oil; at

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