The Sun.
London, England, 1806-06-28 00:00:00

TRAINING BILL.

The House then resolved itself into a Committee
of the whole House on the Training Bill.
On the Clause for calling out the men for 24 days
being read,

Sir JAMES PULTENEY proposed,, as an
Amendment, that the Bill should be .in force for
two years ' • and 'that the same body of men should,
be trained for forty-eight days instead, of two . sepa-
parate bodies of men for twenty-four days. In
his opinion 200,000 men, trained for forty-eight
days, would be a much more efficient force 'than
twice that number, which had in several bodies been
trained only for twenty-four days each, and would
be more to be depended on, in case of any emer-.
gency that could happen.
•M. Secretary WINDHA M said, this being
. a new mode of training men, it' had for that reason
been called a matter of experiment,. and all matters
of experiment should, in his opinion, be made for
as short a• time as possible, in order that you might
derive advantage from your own experience. He
could not therefore see any necessity for extending
thecajntinuance of this Bill to two years instead of
one; but he ohje&ed to -it for another reason,
which was, that it would be looked . upon as too
great a hardship to fix such' a burthen on any one set
of men ; and further, that one of the objects of the
Bill was to put as great a body of men as possible:
successively into' training. ,
Viscount CASTLEREAGH spoke in favour of
the Amendment; he went '
over many Of the argu-
ments used by himself and others,, on the different
debates on the Bill,, and drew a , comparative view
of the expence of this Bill and that brought in by
' his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Yorke), in 1803 ;
though there could scarcely be any fair cOuiparison,
made, his Right Hon. Friend's meaisure being so'
much less expensive. He would therefore compare
the expence of this Bill with that of the Volunteers.
The- Volunteers were `to receive is: 'a day for 20"
days, and 2os. for clothing once in three years; the.
Right Hon. Gentleman, it was true, Said • he did not
.mean those men to be clothed, and they might not
wear any regimentals at their musters; but there -
must be' clothing prepared, and ready, in case they
should be called into the field ; otherwise, if taken
in arms, those men would •be considered by the
enemy as marauders, and executed accordingly. The
Right Hon. Gentleman's training under 'this Bill,
would, he said, come tb about al. 12s. a man, and
the Volunteers to .about 41. so that there would,
only be a difference of Bs. a man ; and when it was
considered that the Volunteers were already in a
state of discipline nearly equal to a Soldier, it was
astonishing the'Right Hon. Gentleman should pre-
fer expending the. public money in favour of train- •
ing such a loose, unofficered, undisciplined force as
this must be, to the Volunteers, whose zeal, ardour,
and patriotism, had formed them into a state of
Most complete discipline.. He insisted that the
force- to be raised by the Bill now before the House
would be extremely expensive, whilst it was, totally
inefficient, and would disappoint not only the hopes
of the Country, but the hopes of the Right Hon.
Gentleman also. If the Right Hon. Gentleman
meant it to bean officered Corps, he should agree
to the Amendment ; if it was not to be an officered
Corps, it would never be of any use whatever, and
the Regular Army would be much better and stronger ,
without its aid than with it. For these reasons, he I
should support the Amendment.

Mr. Secretary,WlNDHAM said, it certainly was
not his intention that the men should be trained on
Sundays,. but be was not convinced that it would
not be the better way. He had not come to this
determination on account of any religious scruples,
on his part, but because he had been informed by
many; arid indeed be really thought that it would
destroy the reverence for religion. Fbr thiS"-reVer
ence, he said, he was a greater advocate than was
generally believed ; and it might be recolle6ted; that
he had at one time expressed his opinion with re-
gard to Sunday Newspapers, which he considered
as a great and growing evil.' With respe& to the
expence, : he thought it. should be considered as
trifling, when
,compared with the expence of the
Volunteers, not even including the immense sum
subscribed voluntarily. Mich had also been said
by .:the. Noble Lord about the Voltinteers being a
much better force; but on thiS subject 'he would say
nothing, it having been already ;so much debated,
except..to desire Gentlemen to recolle6t, that besides
this force, there was in the Country a very large
body._ of Volunteers ; and he thought it absurd to
Suppose that they would be less serviceable because
we had this trained body of men.
Viscount CASTLEREAGH `again said, that the
present system was
.full as expensive as the Volun-
teers, without being so eflicient ; and added, that
the Right Hon. Gentleman was entirely silent with
respe6t to the clothing.
Mr. SPENCER STANHOPE wished to know
how the men were to be officered when they were
first raised—whether by the Serjeant or the Con-
stable ?-(a loud laugh froin the Opposition bench)
or whether any others were to be-'appointed ? This
he copepive4 was point that shotild be explained'
.to the House ; and if the Right Honourable Gentle-
iP;,44 W4S, corprWA 4 (fi.q4P4Ptk4 it of 4PP/ not

only as a Member of Parliament,'but as a Deputy
Lieutenant.

Mr. Secretary WINDHAM was much asto-
nished that the fancies of Gentlemen should be so
much tickled at the speech of the Honourable Gen-
tleman.: for his part he could not see where the joke
was : he supposed it was in the Constable ; ,And,
indeed, he thOught the Honourable Gentleman had
need to explain it, like Bayes, in the Comedy of
The Rehearsal, who sayg, " the joke is in the boots."
The Right Honourable Gentleman then said that
the Serjeant was—to drill the Men ; and the Con-
stable, who, it -was well known, had a kind of au-
thority over the:men, .was to. stand by and take
those into custody who were deserving of such a,
punishnient. .

Mr. PERCIVAL referred to 'the late Bill
brought in by Mr. Yorke ; and said, that his Ho-'
noiarable Friend had-wisely provided a Captain and •
other Officers for 120 men ;, for it was absilrd to
suppose that it could be done by one man and' a
Constable; who'was to stand by and take every man
into custody who did not turn out- his toes. He
therefore hoped the Right Honourable Gentleman
would make a provision for the appointment of
Officers

Mr. Secretary WINDII-kM said, the only dif-
ference he saw was, that in the. Bill to which the
,Honourable Gentleman alluded the Constable was
called a Captain, and there was ,a waste of military

Mr. PERCIVAL explained. .
Sir J. PULTENEY then signi'fied his jntentiou.
of withdrawing his Amendment, as iE was consi-
dered by the Right Honourable Gentleman to be
inconvenient.

A short conversation then took place
.between.
Lord H. Petty, Mr. Percival, Mr. Spencer Stan-
hope, Mr. Bastard, and Sir W: Young, and the
Clause was finally agreed to. After a long con-
versation on the Clause with respe& to the pay-
ment of fines; the Gallery was cleared for a division;
but the Clause was agreed to without any having
taken. place.
Upon. the Clause appointing two days in the week
for the 'purposes of training being read,

•
Mr. CALVERT moved an Amendment, that Sun.
day, except during the hours of divide service, might
be appropriated to- the said purposes.
This produced a conversation, in which Mr.
Wilberfbree, Mr. Wm. Smith, and Mr. Percival-op.
posed the Amendment • and Mr. Yorke- and Sic
James Pulteney supported it. •
Mr. WtxrixAm said he was not of opinion,. that
the praduice of training men for the defence of their
Country, and its religious and civil Establishments,
would be an injury:. to the -reverence •of the -Sab-
bath ; but,• to obviate objeaions which other Gen-•
tleinen entertained, he should Support the Clause-
as :it originally stood. , . .
Ur. CALVERT said lie would not press what he
had proposed, and withdre* his Amendment.

After some further ClauSes were gone through,
Sir JAMES 'PULTENEY suggested the propriety
of deferring the consideration of ,the remaining ,
Clauses of the Bill till Monday; which was ,
ceded to : the Chairman reported progress, and'
the Committee obtained . leave to sit again on
Monday. -
The Bill for the Encouragement of the ,Thread
Lace Mannfa&ure, with Amendments, and the
PoSt-Office 'Regulation .Bill, were read a third time, .
and passed.
The other Orders were disposed of, and at Two •
o'Clock the I-louse adjourned till Monday.

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THE SUN.

SOLLM QUIS DICERE FALSUM AUDEAT ?

LONDON,

SATVRDAY, JUNE 28. 1806.

THE departure of Mr. 'JACKSON (lately the Bei.
tish Minister at-the Court of Berlin) for the Conti.
nent, has induced many persons to suppose that he
is gone. to resume his functions at that Court. Al-
though wo are inclined to think that such an event
is by no means distant, yet, that Mr. JAcitsort
should be sent, back to Berlin, to resume his of
ficial cnarader that Court, . under the present
circumstances, is very improbable. The grounds
which induced HIS. MAJESTY to recall his Ali* •
nister from -Berlin remain at present unaltered,
• and•we cannot suppose that, until Prussia retraask
the -principl4s up4.)n which she has- a&ed, and,
discontinues those hostile measures which she
a,dppted (very reluaantly we believe) against thin
Country, the British Government willyelax in that
spit iced. condud which has done it so much ho.
nour. There is, however, strong reason to sup.
pose, from the marked reludance which Prussia
has -manifested to engage in hostilities with this
Country and with Sweden, that the. Prussian G 0.,.
vernment is convinced of the impoliek of ;its recent..
Measures, and is by no means unwilling to renew the
relations of Peace and Amity with Pmvers against
which it never had the slightest ground of complaint.
If Prussia ever seriously expeaed to derive any per-
manent advantage by complying with the orders,
and forwarding the views of BotiArattrE, she must .
now ,be completely undeceived. She was prevailed •,
upon to give up some ofher most valuable possessions
in exchange for the Electorate of Hanover; but
no. sooner had the formal cession of Cleves, Anspach,
&c:lakotrtilace, than his Prussian Majesty was dis-
. , .•
kindly tom by -00NAPARTF; tilat he must by no
means .consider Hanover as finally annexed to his
Dominions, llutthathg Was to occupy i;proyisionaily..

tint in persuading Prussia to accept Hanover. as an
: t for the ceded Provinces, BONAPARTE had
a much more important objet in view than that of
tricking her out of these ProvinceS, which . Was
that of involving her in hostilities• With ,Great Bri-
.
Uhl and her and thereby diSabling her
from resisting 'or even remonstrating against the
pas lie had formed with -respea to Holland.- His
schemes have succeeded but too well, and' the Prus-
sian Government, however infatuated, 'cannot but
be sensible of the . egregious errors which it his
committed, and must feel that, without a ra-
dical change of measures, Prussia cannot long
exist as an independent State. The losSes which
Prussia has already sustained by the War are
incalculable; and they have not been, and Cannot
be, counterbalanced by any acquisition on her
part. -The distress, And consequent discontent of the
people of Prussia have arisen to .a most -alahning
height. They know that they are engaged in a War
as destru&ive to their private interests as it is to the
honour 'and independence of their Country, and
they have spoken their sentiments in a language too
intelligible to be misunderstood. Under these
circumstances there cannot; we think, be any
doubt that the Prussian GovernMent is anxious
for the restoration of Peace with this Country.—
His Majesty's Ministers, we are convinced, are
equally . desirous of such an event, and the re-
sidence of Mr. JACKSON at Berlin, though not at
present in an 'official capacity, would 'tend very

much to facilitate the intercourse betwetn the two

governments.

It is perfe&ly certain that a Negotiationis at this
moment pending between Prussia and Sweden. for
the restoration of Peace, under the mediation of
Russia, and as the grounds upon which Great Bri-
tain 'and Sweden hatie commenced hostilities against
Prussia are precisely the same, • a reconciliation
with one of those Powers would. almost neces-
sarily include the other. It is therefore extremely
iMpOrtant, while a Treaty is going'on between Prussia
and Sweden, that Some person chai.ged with the
interests of Great Britain should be upon the spOtto
assist in the Negotiation.

We have no feuon to believe th there Is any truth
in the report, which has several times announced
that Lord H. PETTY is going to relinquish his pre.-
4ent situation for another department.
Mr: For, according to the report of to-day, is
rather better. His health' for some time has been
but,: indifferent, and his recovery has, of course,
beeft retarded by his official labours.
' The report that Mr. WILBRAHAM • who lately
over froth France had returned, in not true:

Nothing 'can be more absurd than the canting
complaints in several of the Public Prints respecting
the notice that has been taken of the investigation by
the high Officers of State, relative to ,an illustrious
Female The subject has been the general topic of
conversation in the higher circles tbr some time, and
It was of course very natural that it should find its
tvayinto the Public
.Prints. Indeed it would have
been a rnere'affedation of candour and prudence if
the Public Prints had been totally silent upon so very
interesting and important an affhir, nor would those
very persons who complain of the notice whiCh has
been taken of it have forborne to animadvert on it
if they had happened. to hear any thing about it
earlier than their competitors.
LordIVIELvILLE's acquittal has been received with
'very great rejoicings in most parts of Scotland, par,-
titularly at Leith, Lasswade, Musselburgh, Glas-
gow, Calender, Dumfries, Criett-, Aberdeen, Dun-
dee,—Selkirk, &c. and the same sentiment seems
likely to spread all over. the country. The. Company
of Merchants, as well as the Lord Provost, Alagis-.
trdtes, and Council of Edinburgh, and„ the Ma-
zistrates and Town Council' of Selkirk, have voted
Addresses of Congratulation to his Lordship do the
event.

A Court of Aldermen was held yesterday at.
'Guildhall, to receive the answers of the. Sheriffs
Elea, when Tito. Ilzsn, Esq. appeared, and entered
into the usual bond for the dbe execution of the
Office for the year ensuing. A letter from GEO.
HIBBERT, Esq. the Other Sheriff Elea, was read ;
and the Court requested the LORD MAYOR to issue
his precept for holding a Common Hall, on Tees-
day.next, for the election of a Citizen ,to serve with
Tito: Bisx, Esq. the Offices of Sheriffalty of Lon=
don and iviiddlesei.,- in the room of G. HIBBERT,
Esq. who, havinc, paid the 'fine of 6001. and 20
marks, is excused from serving the same.
Yesterday a Court of Direaors was . held at the
East India House, when SAYIviA. PEPYS COCKERELL,
Esq. took the usual oaths on being appointed the
Company's Surveyor. The Court adjourned' at six.
o'clock till Wednesday next.
Yesterday the Drawing was decided for the ines-
timable Pk Lure of the Death of the great Lord
CIIATIIAd, by private Subscription of twenty-five
Noblemen, and Gentlemen, at One Hundred Guineas
each, when Mr. DAvlsom, of St. Jamees-square,
was the fortunate Gentleman that gained-the Prize.

Mr. CHARLES .FRANCIS SHERIDAN, who died on
-Tuesday last at Tunbridge, had recently become an
inhabitant of that place. He purchased the beauti-
ful Villa which belonged to the late Mrs. B YNG.—
Re was allied in talents-as well H 5 in blood to the in-
genious Member for Stafford. He published, many
years rip, a History of the Revolution in Sweden
during ,the reign of the late Monarch of that
Country; where Mr. C. F. SHER/ DAN resided when
that memorable event happened. He was a Member
of Parliament in Ireland many years ago, and Si-
cretary at War in that Country. His oratorical powers
Were respe.table, though by no means upon a par
with those of his brother. Altogether, he Was pos-
sessed or considerable talents, and was in private
life a manly and honourable charaaer.