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HOUSE OF PEERS.

TITURSDAY, MAY 8

The Hotise met abotit ten o'clock. Tmrd BEAU-
c4Ami, (lax Mr. LyGON) was iutrodiiced in the
usual 'fortn, and his patent of creation having been
read, took the oaths and his•seat.,

, Lordships proceeded, as usual, to Westrnin,
stet- Hall.-:—They returned soon after four, when an
order was made to proceed further on the Trial of
Lord' VisColint Alelvilleto-roorrow,_ and a MeSsag.e
sent 'to the House -of Commons to acquaint them
there With. ; • •

The. American and,West Itidia Trade Bill passed
through a Committee, • after receiving some verbal
amendment. The Report wa'sprdered to be taken
into consideration on Monday.:

Mr, Graham, Sir Georg Douglas; Mr. Fydell;
Mr. Henderson, Mr. Hutchinson, and several other
lgemhers of the House of Cornmons, brought up
Cyo. Private Bills, returned with the Amen-dments
matie'by the Lords'agreed to, and three'other Private
Bills ;.which were read a first time. •
On the Motion of Lord ELDON, the Resolutions
respeuing the Claims to the Rods Peerage were or-
dered to be taken into consideration to-morrow, 'on
aeconnt of some mistake in the names.
Adjourned till to-morrow (this day).

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

THURSDAY, MAY 8.

A Message from the. Lords announced that they
would proceed further on the Trial. of Lord Mel-
ville to-morrow morning.
The SECRETAkY at \VAR brought up a Return of
ihe number of Recruits under .the Additional Force
A 61., from limited to unlimited service,
.from the
year 1804 to the year 18.06.--=-prdered to lie on the
Table:

Mr. BAKER gave notice, that to-morrow he would
move for a Committee to examine the Maltsters'
Petitions.

IRISH BUDGET.

Mr. ALEkANDER* brought up the Report of the
Committee of Ways and Means, upon the propesie
tions moved yesterday by Sir John Newport. —The
Resolution being read respecting the Duty of 3s. 6d.
.
per Cent. on Sugar,
Mr. ROSE said, that the Right Honourable-Ba-
ronet had prdposed a temporary Duty in order, to
provide for the interest of a permanent Loan, which
was not only a novel, but, in 'his' opinion, unwise
mode of proceeding. •But if he understood the ineati
ing of the Hon. Barenetcorrealy, be seemed .to think
that it was not necessary to raise "any Taxes for the
payment of interest as long as there was any, surplus.
Revenue. The Surplus Revenue of Ireland, over
and
.above the joint contribution,.was only about
700,0001. 'applicable to the psyment el the Whole
cf,leer separate charge, and the Right Hon.. Baronet
seemed to think that as lOng, as any-of this surplus
remained, it was not necessary to impose'any new
Tax: If the Right Hon. Baronet did not meanthat,
upon what principle was it that he, proposed a tern-
porary Duty to pay the interest of a permanent Loan ?
This Duty upon Sugar in 'lreland was proposed in
consequence of a similar Duty being laid on in'this
Country, but the Duty in Great Britain would cease
with the Weir, and then the Duty in Trebnd must
- Rieht lion. Baronet •was introdue
cirri' an -entirely new principle, and. it was 'a snbje&
that deserved consideration, because they were now
ceeaing rapidly to that period when the Debts of the
two CoMitries would bear that proportion to each
other that they- must, according to the Aet of rnion,
be' nnited. He by no means contended that the
whole of the supplies for Ireland should be raised
slie year, but certainly Taxes should be im-
posed' to pay the Interest of the Loan.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that he did last
night, in' the rhost .distina manner, protest agaiuSt
any such interpretation being put upon what he had
said as that bow attempted by the Right Hon. Gen.
tletnan. He had never 'stared that he would not
propose any Taxes while there remained any surplus
Revenue ; but that as there were measures in con-
templation that, he hoped, would very materially
'improve the Revenue, and as he had been but a
very short time in office, and had not an opportu-
nity of fully considering the state of the Country,
lie wished' to propose Taxes that should press as
lightly upon the people as possible.—With respect
to raising the Supplies within the year, why did not
the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite to him (Mr.
Foster) do it when le was in .office ? That Right
Ron. Gentleman had had ample opportunity of
inewing the state of the Country before he -came
into office, Whereas it was impossible for him
(Sir John Newport) to obtain the necessary in-
formation, not being able to visit the Country
during the short time he had been in office. It
-'-.vas admitted that this Duty ought to be laid 'on
in consequence of the Duty imposed in this Country,
I)et it was said that it' would not .be productive; he
certainly did look to itior produce; but Gentlemen
!ought not to press that as an 'argument against him,
-when they admitted that he was bound to propose
this Duty, a similar one having been laid on in' this
Country.
,He might, he was sure, if he had thought
proper, have estimated the other Taxes higher than
bad done e but he wished to he within bounds.
Bet, surely, it would not be contended that if all the
Taxes together producedflie sum' wanted, that each
particular must produce the sum at .which it was
estimated;; and he had not the smallest doubt that
Taxes he had proposed would produce more than
',the sum he had estimated them at. The Taxes in.
Ireland were simnel, and if
.any of them were
not productive, Parliainent of cdurse had thepower
to rsYpeal, alter, or •amend them, or -to substitute
-.other Taxes in.-their room. It lied been said, that
.the price of Sugar never could reach the point where
this uty would attach;_but be had in his hand the
`ptice current of Sugar,,and it would 'be seen that
the average was above that 'at which the priee would
attach:''' He had heard nothing to induce him tel.
Filter his opinion respeaingthiednty, and. heshould
tmost cettainly,adhere to it. ,
-Mr. RO.'s*P7clsl3jued•
Mr. TOSTAR said, he had been asked why. lie
:lad not; hell ;he was in office, attempted to raise
ds nigch ottime'4iipplies as possible within the year :
the awheyer'svas,' lee lad done it.; he had proposed
to the amount tef 1,4 0,0001. a-year. He
diet
s• bhuale the Blitizet of the Right Hon. Barontlt,

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