The Sun.
London, England, 1837-06-15 00:00:00

ORANGE LODGES.

Mr. B. BATESON moved that the clerk who attended
the Committee on Orange Lodges in the session of 1835,
be at liberty to attend in the Court of King's Bench,
Dublin, in the case of Gore Jones against Hunt and
others. In 1835 the Committee sat, and took the evidence
of Mr. Gore Jones. That evidence which was published,
contained grave and serious charges against a large body
of the magistrates in the county of Londonderry. These
magistrates afterwards held a meeting, discussed the evi-
dence, and passed resolutions, denying the truth of those
statements. The consequence was, that Mr. Jones
had commenced an action against them for libel, which
was to be tried the beginning of next week, in the Court
of King's Bench in Dublin. The magistrates, who had
pleaded a justification, had not the power of putting off the
trial. Their solicitor had applied to the prosecutor to
know whether he would admit his evidence as published in
the report ; he, however, refused to do so. The evidence
taken by the short-hand writer was given to Mr. Jones,
who corrected it, and afterwards delivered it to the Com-
mittee Clerk ; it was therefore necessary that the Clerk
should attend, in order to prove the evidence.

Mr. HUMS submitted that a petition, stating the facts,
ought to be laid before the llouse.

Several Members on the Opposition side said there was
not time to do so.

Mr. ROEBUCK thought the matter ought not to be
disposed of in this hurried way, and asked the House to
postpone it.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, if there was time
it would be better to postpone the motion.
After a few words from Mr. E. TENNENT,

Sirß. B ATES 0 N said the House made no objection to the
shorthand writer joing, and why should they object to the clerk
being examined ? He thought it only just, as these parties
required it for their defence, that the House should give
permission to the clerk to prove that the evidence on the
minutes was actually taken.
Sir J. WROTTESL EY did not consider this a ques-
tion of privilege ; he only considered it to be a question
whether the House should give leave for the clerk to at-
tend, and therefore he hoped they would consider well what
they were about to do before they gave leave.

Sir R. BATESON should then give notice to the House
let he should bring forward this business to-morrow.

After a few observations from Mr. GOULBURN and Mr.
H UNIE,

The SPEAKER said this was a question similar to what
had been before the House for some time. It appeared
that, according to the usual practice, the evidence of Mr.
Jones, after he had been examined before the Committee,
was sent to him to be corrected, and he struck out some
parts and inserted others, and thus it was printed. Now,
the object of having the shorthand writer in Dublin
was to prove some discrepancy between the viva voce
evidence and that printed in the report ; but it was for the
House to determine whether it would permit one of its
officers to appear for any such purpose. It was undoubt-
edly a most important question, upon which he would not
now give any opinion.
Mr. E. TENNENT said that what the Speaker bad
just stated was likely to impress upon the House an erro-
neous notion.—(Cries of " No, no.")

After some observations from the ATTORNEY-GENERAL,
Mr. E. TENNENT, and Lord JOHN RUSSELL the discussion
was dropped.

SUGAR DUTIES.

Lord J. RUSSELL, in the absence of his Right Hon.
Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer, gave notice that
in Committee of Ways and Meant on Friday next he would
take a vote for the renewal of the sugar duties.
Mr. WALTER, on Friday, on the first Order of the
Day, would bring on the motion respecting the Poor-laws,
of which be bad given notice.—(Oh !)
Sir R. PEEL then made a few remarks, in consequence
of which Lord J. Russell agreed to postpone the renewal
of the sugar duties till Monday.
Mr. E. TEN NENT gave notice that, whenever the
question of the sugar duties was brought on, he would move
an address to the Crown to obtain the repeal of the four-
and-a-half per cent. duties in Barbadoes.

CHURCH LANDS.

In reply to a question from Mr. A. TREVOR,

Lord.]: RUSSELL, on Friday, would give the names
of the gentlemen to compose the Select Committee to in-
quire into Church Lands.

DIPLOMATIC AGENT AT ROME.

Dr. BO WRING gave notice that on Tuesday next he
would bring forward his motion for the appointment of a
diplomatic agent at Rome.

POOR LAWS-ATTENDANCE ON PUBLIC
WORSHIP.

Some conversation took place between Mr. EMERSON
TENNENT and Lord JOHN RUSSELL on this sub-
ject. His Lordship was understood to say that different
regulations existed in different unions with respect to the
attendance of paupers at public worship ; but he believed
that in nn case where there were not chaplains appointed
to the Union were the inmates of the workhouses prevented
from attending Divine Service out of them.