The Sun.
London, England, 1863-08-31 00:00:00

AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

It may possibly become a question at no distant
period what may be the title borne by the Prince
of Wales's eldest son, and curiously enough there
are not many precedents to serve as a guide. A
correspondent writes ;—" The eldest sons of peers
bear by courtesy the second title of their fathers,
but there is no precedent for the eldest son of
the Prince of Wales being designated either Duke
of Cornwall or Earl of Chester, probably from
the peculiar feudal nature of those peerages. Pre-
vious to the accession of the House of Hanover, only
one Prince of Wales, the Black Prince Edward, had
a son born during his own father's lifetime. On the
death of that prince the Commons requested that
his only surviving son, who was then in his tenth
year, might be received with the honour due to the
presumptive heir to the Crown. This request was
greeted, and the Commons preferred another peti-
tion that he might be declared Prince of Wales, but
the Lords object that " the grant of such honours
belonged not to the prelates or barons, either in or
out of Parliament,but exclusively to the Sovereign ;''
and the Royal youth remained plain Lord Bichard
of Bordeaux until he ascended the throne as King
Richard 11. On the accession of King George 1.,
his eldest eon, afterwards George H., was created
Prince of Wales, and three years afterwards his
eldest son Prince Frederick Lewis, was created Duke
of Gloucester, and, in 1726, among other inferior
titles, Duke of Edinburgh. On the accession of
George 11., Prince Frederick was erected Prince of
Wales, and his eldest son, afterwards King George
bore the title of the Duke of Edinburgh till
created Prince of Woks and Earl of Chester on his
father's death in 1750. This would seem a prece-
dent for the eldest son of the present Prince of
Wales being designated Earl of Dublin, which the
Prince himself was created by patent in 1849. In
the peerage of Scotland the eldest son of the King
is always Duke of Bothsay and Earl of Carrick,
but there is no precedent for the eldest son of the
Prince of Wales being known by
either of those
titles."—Guardian.

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HER MAJESTY.

The Queen in Germany.
ROSENAU, COBURG, August 27.
The Crown Prince and Princess of Prussia took
leave of her Majesty on Tuesday evening, and left
Coburg for Potsdam.
Prince Alfred accompanied the prince and prin-
cess.

Yesterday was the anniversary of the beloved
Prince Consort's birthday. Her Majesty planted
a tree in remembrance in front of the Schloss in
which the revered prince was born. The Duchess
of Coburg came early to see the Queen.
Prince and Princess Louis of Hesse arrived yes-
terday on a visit to the Duchess of Coburg, and
immediately visited her. Majesty at the Rosenau,
and remained there till the evening.

On Wednesday, the anniversary of tho birthday
of the Prince, Consort, the prizes, founded by his
Royal Highness for the assistance of artisans and
for the dowry of respectable young women, were
distributed at Coburg in the usual manner.

Her Majesty the Queen will leave Rosenau on
her return to England on Monday, the 7th of September.
It is expected her Majesty, on her homeward journey, will
spend one day with the King of the Belgians, and arrive
at Windsor Castle on Thursday, the 10th, where the Prin-
cess Louisa and Prince Arthur will meet her Majesty. The
Queen will stop one night only at the Castle, and then leave
for Scotland.—Court Journal, _ .

The Crown Prince and Crown Princess of Prussia
and Prince Alfred took leave of her Majesty at Rosenau on
Tuesday last, and - shortly afterwards left Coburg by spe-
cial train for Eisenach, on their way to Potsdam. Their
Royal Highnesses, accompanied by the Prince of Leiningen,
arrived at the latter place on Wednesday morning. Prince
and Princess Louis of Hesse are expected to arrive at Pots-
dam on a visit in about a week.

The weather has been generally wet and un-
favourable since her Majesty's arrival at Rosenau, which
has prevented the Queen and Royal family from taking
daily open-air exercise.
The Emperor of Austria has presented 1,000
florins towards the fund for the restoration of Goethe's
House, in Frankfort, so called from having been the resi-
dence of the great poet.
The Emperor of Austria has paid a visit to
Rumpenheim, the chateau near Frankfort, where the Duke
of Cambridge, the Duchess of Cambridge, and the Princess
Mary are at present sojourning, as well as the family of the
Princes of Hesse.

The Emperor of Austria is going to have an
armed frigate built, to celebrate the Frankfort meeting of
the crowned heals.
The King of Portugal has ordered a census of
the population—a process never before realised in that
kingdom. _ _ _

Trances Anne, Marchioness of Londonderry, was
prevented receiving compeny at Wynyard last week, we ar©
grieved to observe, owing to a severe indisposition, an in-
disposition which has now, however, happily abated.

The Duke of Newcastle arrived in town on
Saturday from Clumber-park, Notts.
The Earl Grosvenor, who came to town last week
from Calverley Park, Cheshire, left town on Saturday, to
pass a few weeks at Homburg. Lady Constance Grosvenor
is for the present staying with the Duchess (Dowager) of
Sutherland, at Stafford House, St. James's.
Viscount Palmerston arrived in town on Saturday
evening from Walmer Castle, Kent.
Lord and Lady Harriet Ashley arrived in town
on Saturday from Walmer Castle, where they have been
visiting Viscoant and Viscountess Palmerston.
The Right Hon. William F. Cowper, M,P., and
Mrs. Cowper came to town on Saturday from visiting Vis•
count and Viscountess Palmerston at 'Weimer Castle.
The Duke of Hamilton is, we understand, about
to enter Christ Church, Oxford, to complete his education.
The Duchess of Argyll has arrived at Stafford
House, St. James's, on a visit to the Duchess (Dowager) of
Sutherland, from Inverary Castle, Aroleshire, whero the
duke and family aro staying.
The Earl Cowper and his brother, the Hon.
Henry Cowper, havo had excellent sport at his lordship's
shooting quarters in Inverness-shire. Several fine stags
fell during their first days' shooting.
The Right Hon. Sir George Grey has arrived
at his seat, Fallodon, Northumberland, from Scotland.

"Faust" is shortly to be given in Dablin, with
Mr, Sims Reeves in the part of the hero.
THE SHAKSPERE COMMITTEE—NEW ADDITIONS !

—During the current week ,Mr. Justice Haliburton,
Sir J. Paxton, M.P., Mr. Wm. Scholefield, M,P., Mr. J.-
G. Greenwood (Principal of Owens College, Manchester),
and Prof. Sterndale Bennett have joined the National
Shakspere Committee.
The Colonelcy of the Coldstream Guards is not
yet filled, nor, owing to her Majesty's absence from Eng-
land, is any appointment likely to be made for another week
or two. Rumour naturally associates the names of Sir John
Guise and Sir Wm. Gomm, as being the two oldest Guards'
Generals, with the appointment. Both have good claims.
Sir John is the senior General of the Army, but it is possi-
ble that the more recent active services of Sir Wm. Gomm
may decide the point in his favour.—Ariny and Navy
Gazette.

GIVE A COLONY A BAD NAME—AND RECHRISTEN
IT I—The Australian papers mention a strong desire cn the
part of the inhabitants of New South Wales to alter that
name to Nova Cambria, Britannia Nova, Alfredia, Alex-
andria, or, in fact, to any name which will get rid of the
recollection of Botany Bay, the name given to the locality
by Capt. Cook, but which has become also associated with
no very pleasant recollections.
CURIOSITIES OF FASHION.—It is a question, I

think, whether the fashion influences the age, or the
age moulds and shapes the fashion, but it is obvious that
there exists a subtle relationship between them. A high-
bred courtesy, a certain elevation of manner, a loftiness of
language, and even a refinement of thought, seem natu-
rally to associate themselves with the rich and stately cos-
tume of the men of the sixteenth century. Look at the
Cavaliers in the glorious pictures of Vandyck; who can
believe that from the lips of such be-ruffled and be-plumed
gentlemen ever dropped any coarse ribaldry or vulgar
slang? Those grave and potent seignors who glow
on the splendid canvas of Titan—can you believe them
capable of the deeds in which delighted the buckskin-
breeches and cocked hats of our Maccaronis and Mo-
hawks in the days of the second George ? When I look
upon the sweet and noble women of Vandyck, and com-
pare them with the bare-bosomed beauties of Lely, I trace
in the distinction of costume and fashion the difference of
morals and taste, and the wide gulf between the pure house-
hold life of the reign of Charles I. and the social abandon-
ment of that of Charles 11. Morals and manners keep pace
with the changes of costume, and are indicated by them. It
is quite in accordance with the philosophy of fashion that
the society which countenances "pretty horse-breakers,"
and disguises things vicious with pleasant periphrases of
language, should distinguish itself by patronizing huge
crinolinod monstrosities contrived to expose, and yet en-
cumber, the female figure. It may be that there was as
much vice in the times of old, but it was a more deem:out;
vice; and the Doll Tearsheet of Falstaff and hiscompamone
did not "set the fashion" to the wives of Percy and Morti-
mer.--From " _London Society" for September.
IRISII FISHERIES.—Tne Commissioners of Fish-
eries report to the Lord Lieutenant that the salmon
fishing of 1862 was more productive than for the last two or
three years—and improvement which they trust is consequent
on the increased vigilance of the boards of conservators and
their officers, with the aid of the constabulary, in preserving
the spawning fish during the winter, and not merely the
result of an increase. se the means of capture. But those
means have considerably increased, and practices have been
adopted which it is believed are wholly contrary to the
spirt of the Act of 1842, with reference to the use of fixed
engines. Many of the rivers continue to be' crowded with
stake weirs, which in some cases may be injurious to nevi.,
gation, requiring the attention of the Lords of the Admiralty
as conservators of the tidal navigations of the kingdom.
The commissioners have very materially shortened the sea-
son for fishing the Limerick district, the waters of which
run through 15 counties, and the result has been the pre-
servation of an unusually abundant stock of breeding fish
in the spawning beds during the past winter. The boards of
conservators in Ireland received £5,417 for licence duties in
186,.. The commissioners have granted licences to 26 per-
sons to plant artificial oyster beds to the extent of above
0,000 acres in all, but it does not appear that any oyster
spot or brood has been resorted to for stocking the beds.
They regret to say, in regard to sea fisheries, that with the
exception of the east coast, where the take of herrings hats
been unusually productive, there does not appear to be any
signs of improvement in Ireland ; in many places the fish-
ing population appear to be dying out, and boats are to be
seen lying idle on the peach. It is difficult to account for
this falling off, as where capital and individual enterprise
has been judiciously invested iu the deep sea fisheries it
has been found that abundance of fish may be obtained
round the shores of Ireland. It is a coast, however, sub-
ject to severe storms and rough seas, and a better class o.f
boats than is usually employed is required to follow rho;
avocation prefitably.
It is satisfactory to learn that the
jealousy which existed between the different classos
of fishermen with respect to the different modes of fishing;
and there is an impression that the mode of
is subsiding. The prejudices against tress ling are apparently
fishingdimin is riot so injurious as it was first thought to be.