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He did not care which party—yes, he did care
17hieh party preponderated—but he was convinced the
usinoss could not go on unless one party had laude-cided majority over the other. He did not differ from the
Noble Lord's view of the course which the House ought
now to adopt. But he wished to say a few words as to
the future. The Noble Lord declared that the views
of her Majesty's Ministers, for the future, would be di-1
directed to the maintenance of religious liberty. In that
sentiment he (Mr. Hume) cordially concurred. He regretted,
however that the Noble Lord had not said anything about;
the emancipation of the Jews. He hoped, however, that that'
was mere forgetfulness, and that justice would be done to the!
Jews as well as to the professors of every other religious creed.l
He begged to tell the Noble Lord, also, that he was exH
the begged
sorry that, as a Minister of a new Sovereign, he had,
not intimated any intention of completing the Reform Bill.
Why not carry through the Payment of Rates Bill in the pre-'
went session ?
Lord J. RUSSELL—It is my intention to do so.
Mr. HUME said he was very happy to hear it, as it would
remove many inconveniences attending elections; and would
lbe considered as a demonstration of good will on the subject
lof Reform. There was another measure, the final Registra-I
ition Bill, the non-passing of which would leave Ireland, at'
Ithe general election, in a dreadful state. This should be con
sidered by her Majesty's (government. At present there was'
not a single election in Ireland in which the candidates'
,were not subject to enormous expense and endless trouble.
—( Hear, hear.) He was sorry that the Noble Lord was;
!determined to persevere in his Canada project. For him-
self, he would never consent to give a pound of the pub-'
'lie money in this country for the purpose of support.'
ing misrule elsewhere. If the Noble Lord flattered himself
that the Assembly of Lower Canada, when it met, would

press a definite opinion ; and he must enter a caveat against:,l Ministers, and he hoped they would be induced to come'
the nomination of this Committee, and must reserve to him-fiforward with some substantial measures. When the Noble'
:self the discretion of taking any step which he might think Lord (Lord John Russell) returned to Stroud, as he must!
it expedient to adopt.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He concluded shortly do, he hoped the good people there would not bel
that his Noble Friend did not mean to nominate the Cotn-!.;satisfied with such a speech as that which the Noble Lordi
mittee that night. He did not mean to say that it was*had addressed to the House that night.--( Hear, hear,t
: his intention to press an abjection, but the question was .:>4ltear.) He hoped the people of Stroud Would apply tbel
one upon which he entertained strong impressions, and hel‘f, Reform screw to the Noble Lord's head, and extort
'certainly hoped it would not be proceeded with that night. ~from him an appearance of better and more substantial things. t
—(Lord John Russell said .‘ No.") He did not think it ne4, —( Hear, hear, hear.) He (Mr. Wakley) was anxious that'
t cessary to offer any observations on the concluding remarks,i., the present Ministry should continue long in office if they were'
of his Noble Friend as to the spirit and temper in which, really disposed to carry out the principle of Reform with inte-11
her Majesty's Government were prepared to conduct the affairs' grity and zeal.—( Hear, hear.) But if they were inclined tol
of the country, because, having listened very attentively to, slumber, if they evinced a spirit of tardiness and indifference,
the many well-rounded periods of his Noble Friend, he wasjuso, he trusted that under a new Parliament they would not be al-
as much at a loss to know in what possible way those great clifja, lowed to retain their places, but that they would be succeeded!
fercnces arose between one portion or side of the House andi, by a Minister who, without hesitation or delay, would apply i
the other as he was before his Noble Friend made his well-P himself to the working out of all those great measures whichl
rounded periods. His Noble Friend had told them that the„ithe people so ardently desired to see adopted.—( Hear.)
• measure of the repeal of the Test and Carpen.ti ,n Act was% Mr. G. F. YOUNG expressed his full approbation of the,
not a dead letter—that the Roman Catholic Disabilities Re-1P,.( ourse proposed to be pursued by the Noble Lord, and depre-
moval Bill, the Nlunicip4 Corporations Bill, and the Refort4 cated the language held by those who arrogated to themselves
of Parliament Bill could not remain a dead letter; and he'iikz the exclusive representation of the views and wishes of the
seemed to imagine that in saying this he made an expression 4 cle. He believed that the great mass of the people were
of opinion on the part of her Majesty's Government which l people. concurring in the opinions expressed by those gentle-
was . not accorded to by every one on the other side of the,- men—( Hear, hear)—and he believed that if the Noble Lord
House. He (Lord Stanley) was one of those who assented' ,(J. Russell) would disregard the support he occasionally re-
to the carrying of all these measures. There were those on. reeived from the Radical party in the House, and would dare to
that side of the House who had opposed those Bills, but he .;!throw himself upon the good sense and good feeling of the
had not heard any one in that House, or out of it, express the , people of the United Kingdom, he would find himself fully'
smallest wish or disposition to trench in the slightest degree `'compensated in the next Parliament.—( Hear.) I
on these measures, and he had yet to learn who had done so. . Mr. ROBINSON could not help expressing his strong and
'He recollected the declaration which had been mi.da by hiskdecided disapprobation of the course proposed by the Noble
Right Hon. Friend the Member for Tamworth ( Sir R. Peel),NLord to be pursued with respect to Lower Canada. The va-
bat trench on the Reform Act who might, he would not behcjllating and dilatory policy of the Government with respect to
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'egard with friendly eye the resolutions of the Parliament of
Great Britain, he was greatly mistaken ; and he (Mr. Hume)
]was sure that the House would not warrant a vote of credit
to Ministers who were so unworthy as to endanger a
war in the State. He trusted that by the commencement of'
the new Parliament Government would be prepared with
some measure respecting the corn-laws. If, also, they were!
sincere in their determination to carry out the principles ofl
reform, her Majesty's Ministers would propose the only mea-!
sure which would enable electors to give their votes honestly
-Ind without intimidation—the ballot. Extended suffrage wasi
Also most dear. If the Noble Lord should not be prepared,
to make such propositions, he (Mr. Hume) trusted that other!
Members would ; and he was sure that they would be sup-!
ported by the great body of the population. He did not!
say in bow many ways the suffrage ought to be extended ;:
but he could not conscientiously consent to its remaining
its present state when he knew that many millions of persons!
were excluded from having a voice in the choice of the re-I
presentatives of the people. He hoped that among other
(natters to be reformed, the Noble Lord would not forget our
large establishments. A change was requisite in the whole
management of the army. The people had looked with great,
regret at the situation in which Ministers had been placed with:
respect to that point. He hoped our establishments would bel
properly revised; and that our military establishment shouldi
not only be reduced, but placed under the management of men!
whose opinions were in unison with those who wise pledged to
carry reform into every department of the state. He wasl
aware that there had hitherto been a difficulty on that point ;!
but he trusted that that difficulty had now ceased to exist.
There was one more subject to which he wished to advert.
He hoped that in the new Parliament Ministers would be pre-,
pared to recommend to the House a general system of educa-1
lion for the people ; if not, he was persuaded that they would'
be compelled to do so by the public voice. He would tell the
Noble Lord that if education had been spread more widely
throughout the country the outcry against the new Poor-law
would not have been so loud and general ; and that if he
wished the principle of that measure which he (Mr. Hume),
again declared to be the best measure in principle which al
Government had ever produced, to be generally approved, itl
could only be by general education. The great exertions
which had been made in opposition to that law had been
made in consequence of ignorance; and if the Noble Lord
looked at the language and signatures of those who opposed
it he would be convinced of the fact. He hoped, therefore,
that Ministers would be prepared with a plan on the subject;]
and that in point of education Englishmen might hold up their,
heads as highly as the subjects of any despotic monarch. The:
Noble Lord had not said anything about the press. If he'
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the first to do so ; and he doubted whether the first trenching-kJ:that province was likely to produce the most injurious conse_
upon it would not proceed from the other side. He should be quences. When the Noble Lord submitted the Canadian re-
sorry if the Reform Act could possibly be made a dead letter ; :solutions to the House, he ought to have been prepared to
the thing was impossible in itself, because the Reform Bill 41embodv them in a Bill the moment they received the approba-
carried with it its own vitality—it being the Act for the repro- ~,,laion of the Crown.—( Hear.) Under existing circumstances,
!sentation of the people in Parliament, it carried with it its own he (Mr. Robinson) should be obliged to agree to such a vote
!existence, and therefore it could not be made a dead letter. 41of credit; but he protested against it on the part of the
" But," said the Noble Lord, " if you mean to tell me that t, people of England, who ought not to be called upon to pa',
this is to be made the precursor of further organic change, that money for such purposes as those to which this vote of credit
;having given to the democratic party for whom you introduceds, would be applied. He had been disappointed by the existing
'this great power ( I supported that Act), it is now intended toNGovernment, who, in the course of the present Session, had
still add to that power, and to interfere with the co-ordinateVepositively done nothing.—( Hear. )
land equal rights of another branch of the Legislature, I tell The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not
you that this is not the spirit in which Earl Grey's Govern- Yhear the concluding remark of the Hon. Member who had just
I,nent brought forward the Reform Act. I tell you that this is sat down without rising to repel its injustice.—( Hear, hear.)
not the spirit in which I adhered to it. I tell you, that, in the ~,i Had not the existing Government carried the English and
spirit of Earl Grey's Government, I will adhere to the Reform 1 Scotch Municipal Bills ?—( Hoar, hear)—bills second in im-
Act as a living Act, but not as the precursor to means affecting ~fleortance only to the Reform Bill, and in some points, per-
further organic changes." Then, with regard to the question of Traps, even superior to that great measure.—( Hear, hear.).
religious liberty, the Noble Lord proceeded to say that he And if these measures had not been made co-extensive with
had supported very willingly the repeal of the Test and Cor- tier Majesty's dominions the responsibility did not rest
Iporation Act ; and when, in the year 1827, it became his lot - ither with the Government or with the House of Commons
,to take a subordinate office under Mr. Canning and under Mr. € Again, as regarded England, was it nothing to effect a settle-
Huskisson, the. condition which he had ventured to assert for °anent of the disputed question of tithes—( Hear)—and thereby
;himself in taking office was that, be the course of the G.- to give relief and satisfaction to the agricultural classes ?--1;
,vernment what it might, he was at liberty to separate the ( Hear.) And was it nothing to bring to a just and amicable
!questions of the repeal of the Test and Corperation Act, the close those long-disputed, difficult, aad delicate questions for
Roman Catholic Disabilities Bill, and the Reform of Parlia- which they had contended wheys in opposition—questions which
ment Bill. With regard to the latter measure, particularly, ‘iitrongly affected and interested the Dissenters—questions which
it went to sweep away all distinctions with regard to civil , nad been satisfactorily determined in the Marriage and Regis-
rights and privileges, and therefore he had supported it. Hr .'-' tration Bills ?—(Hear.) Without going into any further de-
did so honestly. He adhered to that measure still. He wished s,‘, :ail, he thought that the Government who had carried these
to see any Ministry which might sway the Government of this -'42, raeasures might very confidently turn to the people and say—
:country adhere to that measure ; but he could not conceive t •‘ These are the fruits of the Reform Bill, carried by the first
(himself bound to sanction anything which went to infringe Reform Parliament."—( Hear.) The Hon. Member for Finsbury
upon the rights or possessions of the Established Church. He e;'" (Mr. Wakley) had made a complaint against the Noble Lord
wished not to introduce topics of discussion relative to Dissent- si (J Russell) for not distinctly stating the course the Govern-
ers, but when the Noble Lord spoke of the 'extinction of civil ..! 'went intended to pursue with respect to certain popular ques-
land religious liberty, he( Lord Stanley) would say that as he had`" tions. But he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) thought the
supported the Reform Bill so he would not give further power W House would see, that if the Noble Lord had upon an occa-
than what was given by the Act itself. He supported the Act 7, sion like the present entered into a discussion of all those
for the relief of the Dissenters so far that he felt they would ~.." questions, giving pledges as to the future course that should
resort to no means to overthrow the Established Church. St 4, be pursued, the Noble Lord would have been guilty of one of
far he was prepared to go—further he would not go, one way,:.
. the greatest acts of imprudence that any Minister ever fell,
or the other ; and as he would endeavour in whatever situation -,,* ;nto.—( Hear, hear.) He might state, however, that it was
he might be, to see affirmed that fair, full, legitimate construe- not the intention of the Government to frame their measures;
:don of all these measures, as strenuously would he resist an', t with a view to catching votes either on one side of the House'
attempt which might be made to pervert them from the legi- ,- or on the other.—( Hear, hear.) They would propose the
'timate purposes for which they were intended. In respect to . measures that they thought right, and upon these they would
!the concluding observations of the Noble Lord, he presumed 1..' stand or fall.--(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman,
hat the course intended to be pursued by her Majesty's Go-
in coconclusion,entr”tedHon. Gentlemen to have some com•
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their appropriation. He trusted he had satisfied the Hon.
Gentlemen opposite that under these circumstances it would
Ibe inexpedient to discuss the questions now of which they
"had given notice. Having given their notices before the de-
mise of the Crown was fully sufficient to justify them tc
those with whom they corresponded to adopt a different course
• at the present moment. •
Mr. MACLEAN said that after what had fallen from the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, and under the peculiar circum-1
stances in which they were placed, it was not his intention to,
press the motion of which he had given notice. It was need-
less to mention to his Hon. Friend the strong claims which'
Barbadoes had to the consideration of her Ma!esty, when herl
Majesty should be called upon to determine upon the question'
as to continuing or resigning the hereditary revenues which,
she possessed in that island, because he thought he could show
that a more unjust tax than that tax on Barbadoes in principle,
or more oppressive in practice, did not exist in the whole of
tile British dominions.
Mr. MACKINNON and Mr. PETER BORTHWICK
also consented to withdraw the notices w hich they had re-
spectively given in reference to the four-and-a-half per cent.
duties.
Colonel SIBT HO RP likewise withdrew the notice of mo-1
don which he had given for a reduction of official salaries.
He, however, begged to ask the Noble Lord opposite on what
lay ho intended to propose the appointment of a Committee'
on Church leases?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, in answer to the Hon. Gentle-
man, stated that it had originally been his intention to propose,
the appointment of a Committee on Church Leases this even;
ing ; but as the Noble Lord opposite ( Lord Stanley) had said
that there might possibly be some objection to the motion!
whenever the question was proposed, his (Lord J. Russell's);
intention therefore was to propose
-the Committee on Monday,

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'next, and at the commencement of the public business at five
o'clock.
Mr. HUME wished to put in his protest against the 4} per;
cent. duties being again appropriated to the support of the
Bishops is the West Indies.
Mr. CHARLES BARCL AY said there was a question
,connected with the hereditary revenues of the Crown deeply!
interesting to brewers and publicans, and he therefore wished!
to call the attention of the Right Hon. Gentleman to it. Byl
the Statute of Charles 11. a duty on beer, ale, and cider was
made to constitute a part of the revenues of the Crown. Hel
wished to know whether the measures that were now taken by/
the Excise were indicative of an intention on the part of thel
Government to levy that duty ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied,'
that the law compelled the Excise to proceed on the demise'
of the Crown to take stock, as if the duty were about to be
collected. That of course would be subject to the arrange-1
client that might be made on the Civil List ; but he thought
it was not at all likely that the old duty on beer, ale, and cider,
would be enforced.
WAYS AND MEANS—COMMITTEE.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE
QUER the House then resolved itself into a Committee ofi
Ways and Means; Mr. BERNAL in the Chair.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed,)
that in the course of the last Session he had the peculiari
satisfaction to propose an eqaalization of the duties on sugar
grown in his Majesty's West India and East India posses.
sions ; and when he considered the number of years that,
that subject had been matter of dispute, it was to him al
'natter of great gratification to be enabled to make that proH
position with the consent of all parties. On that occasion
he received the support of gentlemen connected with the,
West India interest, who acquiesced in the justice of thel
alteration, as well as those connected with the East India
interest. He was happy to say that on the present occasion,i
with an exception upon one point, it was his intention to pro-
pose a Bill for the continuation of the duties as they at pre-
sent stood. There had been considerable dispute on the part
of the inhabitants of the presidency of Calcutta and Madras
with respect to the exclusion of those presidencies from a par-1
ticipation in the benefits to be derived from the equalisation oft
duties (as we understood the Right Hon. Gentleman to say ;1
but in consequence of the Right Hon. Gentleman turning his!
back towards the reporters' gallery it was impossible to collect!
the precise import of his words). Now the principle of the!
Bill of last year was, that those parts of India from which!
'.he importation of foreign sugar was excluded should have!
the full benefit of importing their produce upon low du-
ies into England. The condition depended upon the ex

curred with the Gallant Officer that the Memory of Loren? Noble Lord, and he believed if the Government were t,
Nelson deserved a better testimonial for the great services he grant any money for the purpose, all'private subscription
had rendered this country, and certainly it would be appro- would cease.l
priate that it should be erected in that square that bore the' Mr. TOOK E, as a Governor of the institution in ques-
name of his last great victory, and when he died in his coun-,4-. tion, said he entirely et:lncurred in what bed fallen from tie
try's service.—(Hear, hear.) But he understood that a sub. ;;Noble Lord.
scription had been raised for this purpose in the profess:_on to ' After some further conversation the vote was agreed to.
which that distinguished officer belonged, and by the public Sir R. VYV YAN hoped that a suitable allowance woul,
generally, to a certain amount, and he certainly did not , be made by Government for the mother of the Sovereign.
exactly know how much.—(Hear, hear.) On a former -,..- Mr. HUME expressed his wish that the allowance to th,
occasion his Gallant Friend atkisd him whether Govern-
~King of Hanover would now cease, as he was an independei,
ment would give any assistance towards the erection of a mo- 'Sovereign.
nument to the memory of Lord Nelson in Trafalgar- The resolutions were then ordered to be reported to-morror
i
square;
and he replied, on the part of Government, that he (this day.)
would be most happy to do anything in his power to facilitate,„ The other Orders of the Day were then disposcd of, and tli,
the object of the subscription and to promote the end in view. ri, House adjourned at Half-past One o'Clock.
He thought that it would be inexpedient to interfere with al&I
'professional or private subscription ; but if that should notvl
:prove to be sufficient, then the public might come forward and
;render any assistance that might be deemed necessary. Ile . LATEST BETTING AT MANCHESTER.
)did not think that it would be less acceptable to the profession
LIVERPOOL TRADE CUP. r. P.
lor the public if a public grant were based on a private sub-0 6 to 1 agst Mr. Ramsay's Vestment
`scription. At any rate he had no hesitation in saying that hei-„I 6to 1 agst Mr. Ramsay's Inheritor
was sure there would be no indisposition on the part of theq N 7to 1 agst Lord Westminster's Sny lers . public to carry•the object into effect.—( Hear.) • 9to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Black Diamord
Sir G. CODRINGTON had heard of a subscription, but 9 to 1 agst Lord Lichfield's Elis
had not been able to ascertain any particulars. i 12 to 1 agst Lord 'Wilton's Gladiator
Mr. GOULBURN said there could be no difference of 16 to 1 agst Lord Warwick's Pelops
opinion as to the propriety of erecting a national monument inn 16 to 1 agst Mr. Golden's Lillah
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honour of one of the greatest men who ever adorned thistogst Mr. Hesseltine's The Bard
agst
20 to 1 agst Mr. T. 0. Pow:cies Wentworth
country.—( Hear.) The Right Han. Gentleman would take:
25 to 1 agst Mr. Allen's Promise
that occasion to put a question to Government in reference to'
Ithe payment made to the Hon. Member for Kilmarnock for his'• NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE RACES.
Report on the trade and manufactures of the Swiss Cantons. qi THURSDAY.
Had the Hon. Gentleman's mission been essential to the into-T
%Sweepstakes of2o sovs. each,
.10 ft.r, for two years old; colts

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

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The winner of the

rests of the country it ought to have been made the subject of . Bst. 41b. ; fillies, Bst. One mile. _
licar.
jry 31b. extra.
a specific Parliamentary grant ; but this appeared to him to be- ,
;in no respect the case. Our resident Minister in Switzerland "
was a gentleman perfectly competent, and he (Mr. Goulburn), Lord Eglinton's b. f. Bellona, by Beagle
. r. aeques s br. c. by Actaeon, out of Galena `...
Lord Kelburne'swas sure, quite willing, to supply all the information which had 'Won by a length.
;been collected by the Hon. Member ; and, indeed, the Hon.'.
:AGoldcup, orcph. f.
Piece
byof
Plate,
value
et
tof Purityoo 1.,
by
subscription of It
iGentleman acknowledged that to Mr. Mover he was indebtedee soya. each, the surplus to be paid to the winner in specie ; thre
;for much of the information actually contained in his report. years old, 6st. 101 b. ; four, Bst. 21b. ; five, Bst. 101 h. ; six an.
What he (Mr. Goulburn), therefore, wished to understand' aged, 9st. Mares and geldings allowed 31b. Two miles.
Iwas, in the first place, why the information obtained had not Ur. Orde's b. f. Beeswing, by Dr. Syntax, 4 yrs ...Cartwright
!been collected direct from our resident Minister in Switzer- .Sir M. W. Ridley na. br. c. Wedge, by Picton, 4 yrs
Mr. nitrides br. c. Wentworth, by Confederate, 3 yrs di
!land ; or if the extraordinary mission had been really deemed •
Won easy.
essential, why the payment had not been brought specifieallyt 'rho Members' sold, ist. ; four, est.
Plate of 50. EC:O7S. ; three year - . ,
under the notice of Parliament ? But of the 140 pages of the ''n
"e
' 31b ; five, Set. 121 b. ; six and aged, 9sl-. Mares and geldings al-
!report, 115 were documents accessible to anybody. In makine '" i
lowed 3,b. The winner to be sold for 250 sovs., if demanded
these observations,he -
•• within half-an-hour after the race. Heats, once round and:.
)any imputation on the manner in which the Hon. Member had't distance.
performed his task, or the utility of the information. - Mr. P. Clarke's br. c. Swainby, 4 yrs Clarke 1 0 1,
I The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said ite Mr. Stephenson's b. c. by Brutandorf, 3 yrs 0 1
was deemed advisable to acquire all possible information re-: 'Mr. Merry's br. f. Florentia, 4 yrs 2 0
specting the commercial and menufaduring state of Switzcr- Mr. S. King's b. c. Vernal, 3 yrs . 0 2 (11
(land, and the Hon. Member for Kilmarnock was selected for . .41r• A elionby's b. g. Peteral 4 yrs ... (5 dis
Mr. W. 11. Ker's ch. f. Miss Grimestliorpe, 3 yrs ...... 0 3
i'this duty ns being considered peculiarly qualified for it; but -
Won very easily.
;the Hon. Member had received no remuneration whatever for
treport—(Hear)—the only sum paid him by Government A Sweepstakes of 5 guineas each, far horses, &c., bona fide tl e
his
I being his expenses while travelling. The course complained run except for a Hunters' Stake, or a Hal!'-bred Stake, tr
of was justified not only by reference to the former practice of prorrtv of Members of a Fox-hunting Club, which have never
Match, and have been regularly hunted with any establish
Governments, but by the practice of foreign Governments all Pack of Fox-hounds ; three years old, 9st. ; four, lOst. 101 b. ;
Ithe present day, for it was only within the last year that he--i five, list. bib. ; se., list. 121 b. ; aged, 12st. To be ridden 1 y
'i(the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had occasion to receive .r Gentlemen, Members of a Fox-hunting or Hexing Club. Twc
•
(gentlemen sent to this country by the French Government ir ot miles.
the purpose of acquiring information of a particular character, il. • .•Gre 1
Mr. Clarke's eh. g. Conservative, 5 yrs... .............. ...• .y
-and the analogy between the cases seas completed by the cir-
dr. Faweus's Locksley, 6 yrs
ii,-- Mr. Merry's eh. g. Patriot, 4 yrs
licumstance that these gentlemen were directed by their Go- C
• Mr. Forster's b. in Eliza, aped
Ivernment to furnish a report containing the result of their in. ' ' ' e 0
• ‘lr. Baird's b. m. Norna, 5 yrs
quiries. 4'
• 11r. J. 11. Hinde's Syntax, aged - 0
Mr. HUME said the Right Hen. Gentleman opposite, who,— Mr. Orde's hr. g. The Brewer, 4 yrs
received so much money from the country every year for doing a Mr. Watson's ch. g. Trefoil, 5 yr 5..... dr
nothing, should be the last man to complain of •
payment being'. Won cleverly.
!made for beneficial work. The report was a most valuable
lone, showing, as it did, what was the state of trade in the only
!country in Europe where trade was free.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG said the precedent of permitting 11
Member of that House to be appointed to a paid situation un
der Government without vacating his scat, was one which,
;ought to be viewed with great jealousy by the House as opening
the dour to a most dangerous extent of corruption.--( Hear. )
1 Sir H. PARNELL said that the advocates of free trade
'in and out of the House, had been described as mere wild
itheorists ; but here was a mass of documents, a statement of
existing facts, which put it beyond the possibility of a doubt,
if -

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COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL.

THE DEMISE OF HIS LATE MAJESTY.
Yesterday a Court of Common Council was held, for tl,c,
purpose of expressing the sense of the Corporation on thr
,melancholy event of the demise of his late Majesty, King
William the Fourth. The Court was crowded with membe;:
land a great number of strangers were present below t; e bar.
The LORD MAYOR took the chair.
Mr. WM. PRITCHARD rose to propose an Address of Con•
iolence to the Queen upon the death of his late Majesty Wil

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..a est 'S ac
A, • well to the people, he would replace the press in the e vernment was that of the /este. milieu between different par- . I
g session for the individual who was responsible for the renewal elusion of simar the rowth of foreign states. In con- that in a country where the principle of free trade had been
emee"'tieen in which it was in 1792, and would repeal .• ttes, and he wished them success in their attempt ; but looking ee of the supplies, and confine their observations to the smallest 'ending for this point ho conceived the West India interest acted on to the fullest extent the greatest degree of success cession to the Throne; and after complimereing the Lorc
`"es, Bill of last session, which was a disgrace to Parliament -"e to the language of the Hon. Member for Middlesex, her compass, in order that this discussion might close, and the was contending for no more than was actually, just ; because . and prosperity had been the result. Mayor for anticipating the general feeling of the members.,
tram the Fourth, and of congratulation on her iti j . y ,
and to the Right Hon. Gentleman by whom it had been in. , thought there seemed as many difficulties raised on that sid, e: House might proceed with the business standing on the paper they were subject to a similar condition of exclusion with Mr. KE A RSLE Y had no objection to Hon. Members
troduced. In regulating the civil list, he trusted that Minis- ,:, of the House as there were on the side which was occupied by te, for this evening.. I respect to the introduction of foreign produce into their taking nips in the recess—none at all ; but he did not see why it, have presaged him with a requisition to that effect, pro-
ters would take care that the public money should those who calledthe ofthe
not
.., Mr.
el r MAC LE AN wished to advert to two subjects touched., islands. If Jamaica were excluded from iinportitie e foreign the country should pay their bills on the road.—( A laugh.) .ceded to describe the worth and endowments of our deceased
eho would, if his Lordship had not so promptly have convene(
be received by those who were undeserving of it. At present mtheir supporters. .4 upon by the Noble Lord—the first related to the English produce, there seemed to be no injustice that the peopler. The country ought not to be made to pay for these wild-goose .
Sovereign, to whom every one most properly gave the name
there were many persons so circumstanced. But he hoped,: Mr. ROEBUCK observed that the Noble Lord had stated Poor Law Amendment Act. Great anxiety was felt in the .sf Calcutta should be excluded from making importa-techases_( A laugh)—fur the lion. Member's mission was no-
that the next arrangemeut of the civil list would be satisfac- • the course which her Majesty's Government intended to pure es country that the Noble Lord should take some steps with re. itions from Siam or Java, which was ono course by thing but a wild-goose chas-, and his report nothing but moon- ,een done, although mucteyet remained to be accomphs re 1
tory both to the House and to the country. Before be sat ;'-- sue with regard to Canada. Let all the country know that .14- gard to the appointment of chaplains to the workhouses. The -ewhich foreign produce was introduced into that presidency. shine.—( Great laughter.) No ; the country wasn't to Pee e .
,e, eo his late Majesty's successor, the people looked fur the ac-
orn,derhe must repeat his regret that the present Parliament e..; Lower Canada was now in the state in which the United Co . Noble Lord had already pledged himself that this subject •.1 The other course would be that foreign sugar would be im-1-'man ewe a year fur going about for moolishine.—(Reneweue- ,f " Father of his Peoele." la that reign a great deal
ihade:,
.., eemplishment •; so that elite they ;telt affliction at the loss of;
I"as to terminate with a measure depriving the Canadians of lonics were in 1774. The lion. and Learned Gentleman pro, should not escape his attention. He (Mr. Mr. Maclean) had given ! eorted into Calcutta, under the pretence that it was British laughter.) It was all very fie fur the lion• Member fori_liojir:;,'
their liberties on grounds so absurd and fallacious. 1- ceeded in very strong language to deprecate the resolutions, notice of a motion for some returns relating to that branch ofae sugar, and this would necessarily lead to frauds. The foreign edlesex to support such an application of public money, ma it .1
was succeeded by one of whom they had reason to entertar
• Lord STANLEY said that however unsatisfactory it mightk passed by that House with reference to Canada -. and dwelt the subject, but in the present state of the Session sic ehouldeestigar might be introduced for consumption into Calcutta, and egemained to be seen what the lion. Member's constituents
,he most exalted hopes.—( Cheer.) When they looked tt p
the King, they had the consolation to know that his Majest:
bei that after sitting for so long a period as from February to upon the proceedings which had taken place in that colony. not bring forward his motion. Ile, however, hoped that the lan equal quamey of sugar grown in that colony sent to Eng-k would say about it. The II .n• Member for Middlesex had
June, they should be compelled to close the session with so it Her Majesty's Government had taken a course in which the, Noble Lord would not allow many months to elapse without land for consumption here. This would be, in point of fact,'..tlready been told that eYeni•',.," that he knew nothing, and the •,nirable tuition of the rioble lady to whom the education om
many important measures unfinished, and so few brought to a "se showed that they reckoned on the good feelings of person-, affording to the inmates of workhouses opportunities of re- equal to the introduction of so much foreign sugar into the , Hun. Member would be toll so by his constituents. Then,- .
m he Queen was entrusted, they had just grounds to hope for
'•
he superintending. care of the Duchess of Kent, and the ad.,:
.completion, he should not do justice to her Majesty's Minis- out of doors—that feeling being natural when a sovereign ceiving religious instruction within the walls, or granting them home market. The West Indies submitted to the restriction ewhere the Hon. Member was to go when Middlesex refused' tors it he did not declare his entire acquiescence in the pro-,was young, and more especially when that Sovereign was a fe_ permission to leave the buildings on Sundays, for the purpose as to the importation of foreign sugar, and so did the peopled t...lhim, God only knew; ho (Mr. Kearsley) did not, he was sure,
, Mr. HUNTER seconded the motion. The question havinel
1 let of the courseproposed by
Pr .Y - Ty male. There was an enthusiasm abroad which Honourable of' attending divine worship elsewhere. The next point het England ; it, therefore, could be no hardship on the people of but wherever he went, he wished him well.— (Great laughter. ) ' ben put,
etanees, of postponing the further consideration in the present ' Gentlemen were willing to turn to their own account ;—that wished to allude to was the amendment or amelioration of the N India to prevent them importing foreign sugar if they claimed ' After a few words from Mr. Pease, Mr. Hawkes, Mr. Wake- Mr. GALLOWAY rose and said that on this melancholy occa-s
the future.—( Cheers. )
':stsiondtiefffithcisse measures. He agreed with his Noble Friend enthusiasm arose from a conviction in the minds of the people • criminal law of the country. He could have wished that that the privilege of sending that article into the home market at • ley, and Mr. Hawkes,
.anti be could not satisfy himself by giving a silent vote. He
,t.
in: g
for:tairldy,aed:ii7deed in the almost impossibility, of car- that hew MajestY was thormiglilY acquainted with the two amelioration had gone much further than the Bins which had the lower duty. The quantity of sugar imported from Indiail Mr. G 0 le LBURN in reply said, that after the discussion '
.ti)ot C)11 when
th and
a'iscussing measures of great importance, sse
great political parties, and with the true spirit which actuated" been introduced proposed to go. He thought that the sub-Piwas small, but this might result from the state of the law. that had taken place, he still remained of opinion that this el the death of William the Fourth, whose short arllorioust.
t erica of the House was
reign had done more for the substantial benefit and welfare o
but when the n: Pnearly exhausted, 'them—that she understood the difference between the Liberals jest of our criminal laws had only been partially investigated, pp Supposing the same restrictions were adopted with respect to was a fit subject to be brought under the consideration of the eelicved that the nation had sustained a severe and heavy loss
near approach of a dissolution must render the e' and Conservatives.—( Hear.) The representatives of the and he hoped that the Noble Lord, in a future Parliament, i Madras and Bombay as existed with reference to Calcutta, -- House. the people of this great country than all the Kings that ever •
attendance of Members unfrequent and reluctant, since every li people on the one side wanted improvement—the would direct his attention in muchenlarged 1 Under in Councilbe • dto allow sugar to •- Mr. P. THOMSON said, that in consequence of what had
Con-
eman would feel that his priaate affairs and interests rendered e eervatives refused tGentleman, he wished to advert to e. been the Prime Ministers of '
0 sanction any attempt at change—and- to the amelioration of the criminal jurisprudence of this be imported into this country from those colonies at the lower _ fallen from the Right Hoe. _ ,
_, to' three Noblemen, who had .
his elsewhere `• - •
presence necessary.
As he agreed in the post- ..e hence the difference between the two sides of the House. Bur country. duty. If those colonies were put on the same footing as Fort the principle laid down with respect to employing foreign Mr- William the Fourth, had last night expressed their deep sor-
at on the British throne. He was happy, in observing, that.
eesonement of those great measures, so ho agreed getterally in •"1t this enthusiasm would not carry her Majesty's Government' Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD wished to call the atte •1. an that could justly be demanded by them would be - nisters or Ambassadors. It was at his ( Mr. Thomson's)'
he selection of the measures to be proceeded with. He thought through. ri Wil lam,
Before Viscount Melbourne cameinto office they tion of her Majesty's Government to one or two points with conceded. This uestion, however, did not arise out of thee' suggestion, or rather through his department, that the Hon., ind that each bore equal and high testimony to the fir mness,
the measures respecting the criminal law had been receiveee were told he was an untried man. They had tried him—but regard to Irish affairs which he considered to require lining-
rsolut ion,' for it only proposed that the present duties**. Member for Kilmarnock had been despatched to make these
impartiality, patience, and distinguished talents of his late Ma-
row and serious regret at the loss of so great and good a King, e
lowith.s° much favour, and had excited so little difference of ior he was willing to forget the past—they were willing to believe , diate notice. One was as to the uncertain state of the law oPereseear should be continued during the ensuing year. TheAinquiries. He was quite willing to admit that it Was the elute
rum", that if they were right in principle, they ought to be ''' that obstructions and obstacles had been thrown in the way of e with respect to the ten-pound franchise. He called upon the •b H Gentleman concludedwithproposing a resolution of our foreign Ministers to procure all the information in their'
Right on.
carried into practice, and he was sure that with respect l' reform which did not now exist—that her Majesty's Govern. Government to take some means by which that uncertainty .to that effect. itipower with reference to commercial matters ; and he was William the Fourth, yet he was greatly consoled when he re- sg,
to that and to other necessary measures, every dispo- 'rant had got a new lease of the people's affections—that they might be removed, otherwise it would give rise to much difti 4ln answer to a question from Mr. THORNELEY, ply to have an opportunity of bearing his testimony that lesty in the conducting and directing all public affairs:— ••
, isseeected on the high and promising conduct, and the admirable,re
A
iS.iti°n would be shown to aid her Majesty's Ministers must pay a price for it—that they must pay something for the culty in the ensuing election. The next point was with re_Me, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did noTmany of them of late years, since lie had had an oPliortenit3
In closing the seseion ; and that no obstacle would be. .goodwill. They were told, too, that they must not coerce spect to the postponement of the Poor-law for Ireland. The 444 during the present Session intend to propose any alteration in sea being acquainted with their proceedings, had been thei4: lie hoped that Victoria would continue in the same course in
~e
vexatiously thrown in the way of that object. He also thought the House of Lords. Now the House of Commons had note determination to postpone that measure he highly approved octithe Sugar Bounties, in consequence of the peculiar circum-Nmeans of communicating valuable information on all such sub-, -,shich she had commenced. Mr. Galloway concluded by con- 1
lright-minded, and enlightened principles of our young Queen. ,
ith7ic7dir).Fly Proper thatea Bill should be brought in to en- been altered, as with regard to its relative to the because he thought a much better measure might be devised. .1. "stances which had recently occurred. The Government, how-t' jests.—( Hear, hear.) He had been better acquainted withP
able the emnimitsioners to prosecute the tithe surveys, with ' other, but with reference to the House itself, standinge•hat he A But according to the accounts received from Ireland, there'.' ever, had a Bill prepared on the subject, which would be ' this because it had been part of his duty to send specific ques- eubject, and expressing his hope that the example would be
.he view ofcarrying
into effect the measure of former years. s and those who were concerned with him wanted was to was reason to apprehend that during the two ensuing months4e brought forward next year. te eons through the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, to which the! eratulating the mover and seconder upon bringing forward the ee
followed by the whole of the population of the empire.— e,
There was one question to which, in adverting to various to_n. carry out the spirit of the Reform Bill, by which the people k . there would prevail great destitution, perhaps starvation, in.. Mr, HuM E wished to know what bad been done with the most valuable answers had been returned. That information,„,'(
4es' the ee; Member for Middlesex had alluded as the at large should be fully and fairly represented in !parliament. some districts in that country; and he begged to suggest to his,! „cements of Dr. Ure? It was a reproach to the Govern- est had been communicated to the House in different stages, and' The resolution was then unanimously-, and amidst great ..I
!Time"' of difference existing between himself and her Ma_ Was not the refusal of municipal rights to the people of Ire-; Majesty's Government whether it would not be proper to in_lteirment of this country, that they paid more for the drawback of elto the public in another way ; and he was happy to bear his cheering, agreed to.
esty's Government ; but he (Lord Stanley) thought that what- land, because they were Roman Catholics, a policy which !vest a power in the Lord-Lieutenant to extend relief in cer- te sugar than the duty paid on it. The Government had not ap-6testimony to the services which that information conferred on elr. PRITCHARD, in moving for the appointment of a Com-
_e
t7retratgdht.hhe the views which her Majesty's Government en_ went to create civil disabilities ? And who and what bade' tain cases, which money might be afterwards repaid out of theeepareney derived the slightest advantages from the progresseethe country generally. But everybody must be aware that inittee to prepare the Address, said, that in order to meet thea
Loud cheers.)
• till 1" •
t had exercised a sound el• • •
discretion in not pledg-,.,. prevented this measure from being carried but the weakness Poor-rates. ein chemical science He believed that it there was a kind of information which a Foreign Minister, wishes of all, it would be desirable that Rich Committeeg
4 • himselfutmost, had ee. f representing 11 the le-
'lag eel" ves In regard to any particular measures to bugs the Noble Lord acid his principles ? But they could not ' Lord J. RUSSELL said, as the Noble Lord opposite -was admitted on all sides that the present bounties on sugar3however well disposed to exert to the not "Mshould be composed o persons a e classes c s
!attention
forward in future ;better illustration •• • • •ii nomination alit: a session. But he would beg to call eicommand a sufficient majority in that House, and it was not
^• ( Lord Stanley) had made an allusion to an admission made ine were too high. The Board of Trade might have done some the the means of procuring. sHe could take no . • political feeling in the Court. Ile then put 1 .
'attention to one or two the subject of con- e thirteen Common Councilmen.
, ehe Aldermen present, and !allusions and
Athat had been mad . .
first place, the
s°Zbr:Vinn should have been made. In the achieve what was requisite. The Noble Lord in the course tingeney of the Throne of this country being inherited by a elnonentity, and was kept up uselessly at the public expense.s versation that night.—( Hear, bear.)
There
mneitointnraotl
isof the late reign and
the
had
.adverted to the circumstances of his speech, had been most profuse in mere words, but the foreign subject_.(!lear, and laughter)—he felt it necessary to,- He was convinced, that by reducing the duties on sugar fromeethe. House the origin of this. report.c Th
''asa
Union s-' better Address would be framed by .::i
iin provision f 'the e necessity which then existed of mak- PeoPle ',you'd ask for some definite statement of his views. make one observation to the House, Improbable as that con- twenty. four shillings to the old duties, nineteen shillings, the ep Switzerland was about to join. the German Commercial . e'eproposed an amendment to th it effect.
„,
Mr. WILLIAMS (Of Cdwa:ners' a Ward), thought telialtinadr_ .
(circumstances for
h demise of the Crown. Undoubtedly the - His Hon Friend, the Member for Middlesex had, in his usual , 'ingency was--( Hear, hear)—yet it certainly might be neces_, The question having been put, the original question was 1
' revenue would not suffer from it. At any rate, he should like to alter its sestem of duties. He had stated his desire nes,
""° Late reign and accession w n - • G • f Parliament to rovide for it.—( Hear. ) He therefore Ito know why a Bill on the subject of the drawback on sugar
eprocure commercial information on this subject. He would carried, and the following Members of the Court were ap-
rent from those which dist' • were very diffe- manly manner, asked the Noble Lord whether the Government sat or p
distinguished the present reign ; but hell• the expenditure of the army—were they going begged to state, that the subject would be considered before 7 had not been brought forward by the Board of Trade. ' ask how was it possible to procure such information through a
pointed :—Messrs. Pritchard, Hunter, Fletcher, Hall, Prior,
was in no
•
way certain that it would not be wise (litte as •
meant to reduce
the
Tor Government
of the - - and the session was finally closed. With respect to the points ! The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, if he had Foreign Minister who resided in one place, who was obligedee Go, s ,
t Richard Lambert, Jones, Richardson, Cornet', Dixon,.
might be it to do away with y ar: , . expected, and God forbid it should occur) that"lN. blwhich had been referred to b Hon Gentlemen who bad "es been asked the st• n ten d e ago should have answered •by his duties to be on the spot, who had not the means of go- 4 Tickner, and Pen tress.
vision should be made u th pro- the people of England warited to know why a certain o e
. m nufactoriee •-
Perri ee cvetet °f the demise of the , Lord was at the head of the army ? if the Nome Lord, spoken since his Right Hon. Friend (the Chancellor of the that the Government intended to bring forvrard a Bill on the Mg through the colliery, of wishing the different . a •,- Mr. FLETCHER rose to propose an address of condolence to ,
Crown before
it !would the meetingo` the next Parliament. He thought wished to remain in the position ho was now placed six months Exchequer) had addressed the House, he begged to say that g subject, and was indeed prepared to do so, but under the al-e• and of obtaining information from different individuals in those .''the Queen Dowager.
only have been wise to have made a provision for a. in the next session, he must do something to secure good and he should attend to the question relating to religiouseinstrue-•e'tered circumstances of the case he thought it inexpedient to do - places ? It was out of his power, however well disposed and' Mr. TICKNER seconded the motion.
so contingency,likely even in the case done so young, and he trusted cheap government. He entreated the Noble Lord not to be lion being given by chaplains in workhouses.—(Hear, hear.) elm,. He contended that the functions of the Board of Trade • anxious he might be, and he believed that no men were more so The resolution, which was seconded by Mr. SAVAGE, was
immediate
yatto live long as her Present Majesty. But though the alarmed at the cry for organic changes. They must have a_ As to a power being vested in the Lord-Lieutenant of Ire- e were of the highest importance, and that establishment eithan those who now filled those situations. But they could:,
- unanimously agreed to, and it was referred to the Committee
the event steeeessor to the Crown were but a minor, yet in , secret and extended suffraee—they must have Hon. Gentlemen land to relieve any distress that might arise in that country,, Was of the greatest importance to persons connected with com- not furnish the information furnished by the Hon. Member for
..
jug, appointed to prepare the Address to the Queen Dowagemee.,
o itthe demise of the Crown, the probable presump-5, opposite put down. he thought that all the power which the Government could;, mercc, lie agreed with the Hon. Member for Middlesex that, Kilmarnock ; they could not get through tire marmfactories, nor,
, • ,rq The Committee then retired, and after some delay returnedee.
rive heir to
being' an intd e Crewn would be absent from the countrY he, Sir G. CLERK said that 'mine been one of these who possibly require for such a purpose would be obtained by the
~ thi, was a subject that required the greatest consideration, and could they obtain access to the sources of information win n.sieto the Court with the Addresses, which were read by the R,.nee
•• ePendent Sovereign residing in his own dorneeese supported a similar motion e in i could :•I .before the H They could note in his opinion, go ,he had hoped that it would have been brought to a successful.. were opened to the Hon. Gentleman ; but they had well des-re
to the present lB3O, le cou
...-,, Bills House. ey corder. The Address to the Queen alluded to the rnainte-
. mons ; and in the event rthe d •ofthe C -and in not but acquiesce •
o. demise
im in the present instance ; and he was glad': beyond the provisions of those measures without incurring , issue during the present session. • charged their duty by giving every facility to that Hon. Gen- e
&uance of the reformed religion as " by law established," and
-the
absence of the h •
i_ _ heir presumptive there would be no person that those forcible arguments which were then used had made considerable danger, I will only say further (observed the , Mr. HUTT also contended that the Board of Trade was an ' tloman to enable him to obtain information. of a general tolera • eon of sects, and Mr. Pritchard
having
in whom the absolute dominion would t until the heir apps- such an impression i
vest un,on the Noble' Lord. The Noble Limit; Noble Lord), with regard to the observations that have been $l, establishment of the greatest public importance and utility. I After a few words from Mr. To 0K E, moved that it should be adopted, 1
rent should return from a foreign country. Ho need not sa ' must have seen that in ti •had erha namendment by the omission es
that he hoped no such - 1 Mr. C. P. TH 0 NIS ON did not deny that the office of Pre-en Lord PALMERSTON only rose to say what p
~ t
which, if the provision ::::
uzldaycert, yetithwas a case in to please any. But there was one part of his observe- rious which her Majesti's Government might have been pre- esident of the Board of Trade was unworthily filled at there been rendered unnecessary in consequence of what hld fallen . of the words "by law established.
.'
before.,lions to which he had listened withsuch
pleasure, namely, that it pared to propose,. that, besides the imprudence of a present moment, but contended that t .
hepublic had derived e from his Right Hon. Friend the President of the Board of After a few words from Mr. Fletcher, Deputy Westwood,
~
the present Parliament separated.a Undoubtedly,shouldmadee r
•• d v t d • -- ' f informationwhicie• I p-t 14
that his Noble Friend had determined e rejoiced vas necessary 0 o something to remove the evil which arose Meourse, I think it would have been quite unjustifiable on my .. the greatest advantages from the establishment, and, above Trade—namely, that there were matters o .
Mr. Richard Taylor, and e r. Pew tress,
• . - art— Hear, hear, from the Opposition benches)—standinge. all, while under his distinguished friend Mr. Iluskisson. -our ministers abroad were most competent to obtain ; but , Mr. JOHNSON consented to withdraw the amendment, arid question which he knew he was most anxious to pass this Ses- eratul t d the Noble Lord et e's •the ••'I • I, do, three days after l Ih theMembernothing 1 iwhich-• •unanimously agreed
.---- a-e - and her (Majesty Government in position in ware- I - -- The truth was, lion. knew whatever there were other matters upon they were not so compee, the original motion was
Most—namely, the Irish PoorT A "
y, - for one that that measure should be carried into effect this Ses- .the Noble Lord an unqualified admission that it was the filf I had stated anything of the kind.—( Hear, hear.) Wills :t of it. The Hon. Member had on this, as he often did on Mr. WAKLEY said that this was a very important con- 1• 1 . •
I
ger, w ire I was unanimous e ,1 - agreed to.
• eion ; but it was because he (Lord Stanley) thought it a !nee- bounden duty of the Government to provide sufficient in-es-respect to the conduct of her Majesty's Ministers, whether sit-
,i other occasions, manifested the greatest ignorance of thee:, stitutional question.—e Hear, hear, hear.) He objected to The necessary forms with regard to the addresses having
sure which required the greatest consideration—a question on struction for the members of the Established Church in scot-reting in this House or elsewhere, and with respect to my own functions to be discharged by a public department.—( Hear, any Member of that House receiving payment for secret set- .
„ . been agreed to, the Court adjourned.
which such a variety`of opinion existed—a question which, nolland. He thanked the Noble Lord for another tardy admis.l.eiconduet, I will only observe, that we have had in the course hear.) He repeated, as to the duties of the Board of Trade, vices under any denomination. It was right that they should As the members were departing, the Alderman of Cripple-
doubt, the Noble Lord was most anxious to see settled—'fvsion, that there were funds on which the Church of Scotland leof the present Session, and in previous Sessions, debates upon the Honourable Gentleman knew nothing about them.—einknow who were paid in that House, and for what services.
_gate Ward stated that as a female was upon the throne the
ene Which those less acquainted with the difficulties of had a claim. But was not that a declaration made for those') almost every question that could agitate Parliament or excite the (Hear.) With respect to the sugar bounties, no subject wasiee.. He thought that all pensions should be discontinued unless • ' jo to present ad- thewould, he hoped, no more go up
case were most desirous to see made the law of the land, who were out of doors ? Those funds were taken out of the ;public mind, and that whenever a fair opportunity for dismissing more difficult or more full of embarrassment, and therefore itieltl ey were received for public services acknowledged by the ,
, Yr°ersPse°sraitn ntheir boots. p- it it would have be. n prodenti
and that 't
i was a measure, of all others, upon which nereditary revenues of the Crown ; but (as we understood) O them has arisen, Ido not think that either lor any of mes could not be brought to a safe and satisfactory conclusion in seepcol country. Would the Right lion. Gentleman (Mr, Goal- •rithe Alderman to have advised at the same time that gentle-)
"he attention of the public mind would be directed more `'> they were not so now, as they formed a part of the Consoli- 'colleagues have ever shrunk from avowing our opinions that House without much exertion and trouble. He did notelburn) vote for the appointment of a Select Committee to in-palaces for! -full h I. ~'mentwould no c enter into des crate conflicts in
Y ey tee intervention of another Session, that lie rejoiced dated Fund. The Hon, Bionet protested against the decle .e. ( Cheers.) According to those opinions we, of course, have doubt that some alterations might be made, but they could.4quire into the services for which pensions were received by .
eakes% 'and wine. We cart assure our readers that when they
1
.at the determination of the Noble Lord. The Noble Lord ration of the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath, that one eto be judged.—( Hear, hear.) If those opinions do not meet not be done justice to during the short time the present Par- Members of that House at this moment? He believed that, Lord Ma }'or, Aldermen, and Common Councilmen went to,
.Oust be aware that in the present state of the business of the side of the House were favourable to the improvement of the .ii with the concurrence of the people of England, of course, no liament would be continued.—(Hear.) With respect to beet the the Right Hon. Gentleman was in the receipt of a pension of, Kensingt3on Palace with the address to the Queen, then Prinn
_e son it was absolutely impossible for the other House of people, and that those on the Opposition side were opposed to V; Ministry entertaining them can stand ;of course, no Ministry root sugar, he would only observe that he had a Bill pre-42,0001. a year. He would be very glad to hear what ser.emi
etweess Victoria, the members of the Lower Court made such a
Parliament to take a measure so extensive and so complicated all change. This he (Sir G. Clerk) denied. (. is fit to lead this House in which the people of England have pared on the subject, which would be brought before the House tevices the Right lion. Gentleman had rendered for this pen-eee e
-us at the sideboard that those of the Upper were obliged to
In its details into that attentive consideration without which he , Mr. WA KL E Y could assure the h '''confidence. If the contrasy those opinions meet the on Monday. Hon. Baronet that when en . not ,on , qsio,.._( Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") This was a very right Se • should be "1- go away without tasting bite or sup.
sorry to see it pass, There was another measure, he should be asked why there had not been more measures in- Tapprobation of the country, then we can freely and fairly act Dr. BQ WRING was glad to hear that Government in- and proper question when they were voting away the public;
'L Session,
which the Noble Lord had abandoned for the present - troduced into that House, he should say to his constituents e upon them, instead of vainly attempting to disguise what our tended teed° something with respect to the manufacture of money, and more especially as the Right lion. Gentleman 4
, eeinem, and he deeply regretted this circumstance, though be that the Tories would not allow them to be. There was, ;rem' opinions are, or of pretending to act upon opinions which' beet-root sugar, In France only four millions of kilogrames was disposed to dispute the propriety of the payment of 500/.
lid not mean to impute blame to the Noble Lord or his coil amongst others, the Imprisonment for Debt Bill, on
i
which .e we do not sincerely hold.—( Loud cheers.) of beet-root sugar were made in 1829, but last year not less;, to the Hon. Member for Kilmarnock whose sources were un-'he
. megues_he, meant the measure regarding Canada. He cer- e two Tories spoke for a period of six hours. He con- ' The address was then put and agreed to. , than seventy millions of kilogrames were made. The conse-o- doubted.—( A laugh from the Opposition Benches.) It was a
'ainly thought it a misfortune that at an earlier period of thereefeseed that the speech of the Noble Lord (J. Russell) .„, FOUR- AND-HALF PER- CENT. DUTIES. se quenee was that the duty on foreign sugar in France was re- , salary—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear," from the Opposition*,
Session—his Noble Friend having then obtained large majoeesehad not satisfied him. He required something more solid n The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, before -; duccd to little or nothing. He thought that the best course was, Benches)—it was in the character of a salary.—(Renewedk;
i,
`of
in that and the other House in support of the measuree than a mere flow of rounded periods. What was to nre_Ms moving the Order of the Day for the House resolving itself ' 0, to meet the question in its infancy, and to probit the growth cheers from the same quarter.) The Right Hon. Gentleman
fr his late Majesty's Government—should not have proceeded . vent the present Parliament from sitting till November or 't into a Committee of Ways and Means, would take the oppor-
r• of beet-root sugar at once. . ( Mr. Goulburn) had been in the receipt of a salary duringif
at once to carry into effect the resolutions of both Houses of= even till December to advance the business of the country e eetunity of making a short statement. In some measure his 1 Mr. HU M E was satisfied that if any man but the present the time he was in office, and had received nearly 60,0001. of
Parliament ; and that he had not given effect to those resolu- Why was the existing Parliament to be dissolved in such Astatement would be anticipated by the House in consequence g President of the Board of Trade-bad been at the head of that the public money during that time. Ho was now in the reel
-.teems by the introduction and carrying through a Bill to enable 's, extreme haste ? There was no Parliament so likely to dis_ of certain observations already made by the Hon. Baronet the ee department the question of sugar bounties would have been ceipt of a pension of 2,0001., and if Providence blessed him'
, the Government to overcome the difficulty in which they were -, , charge its duty properly to the people as one that knew it.' • Member for the county of Edinburgh, who spoke in reference t long since settled. It was a well-paid office, and the duties with a long life, the country might have the advantage of pay-
: placed. At this period of the Session he was not prepared. was about to be dissolved at no very distant period. Why, 4to certain branches of the Queen's revenues in Seotand, tof it were greatly neglected. He did not wish to destroy the'-eing him for a good many years. He hoped the House
".) say that the Noble Lord was not justified in not acting then, was the present Parliament to be dissolved vvithout . namely the Bishops, lands, and teinds in that country. It Board of Trade, but to make great alterations in the mode would inquire into the circumstances of this pension, and thasese •-. •
— ,
eon the resolutions of both Houses, which involved the re- having an opportunity afforded to it of doing something 2., was then' observed that, in point of law, and, in point of It of doing business. If it were quite clear that beet-root sugar they would relieve the Right lion. Gentleman from the pain ee
4 o
C unt Mevendoiff has arrived in Paris from St.t,
f civil engineers, &c., for thee
Peal of an existing Act of Parliament; and whilst he • What did the Noble Lord intend to do with all those great fact, those forme, fhereditary possessions of,' could he cultivated with advantege, let diem rake the duties and annoyance of receiving it every year. g a part o the
..1- Petersburg, to enrol a number o \
did not re. • plea at, he did not mean to complain of, thee questions which the people desired to see carried? Why the Crown would at the present moment by law be in the pos-:-, off all sugar, instead of imposing an excise duty on beet-root • Mr. GO uLB URN said that if the Hon. Member for4mperial service. ,
;course which tbe Noble Lord had pursued, because he had should not the question of the corn-laws be discussed and ,session of her Majesty. Whether they would hereafter !, sugar. e Finsbury wished to know the grounds upon which his pensionesi x
i'esterday the magnificent gates manufactured bv.
eanmailMiel‘dit/hiisandonment of the measure by a specifice determined by the present parliament ?—( Hear, hear.) Whyvecome into possession of the House, by the consent of her Ma- ii The resolution was then put and agmecd to. The House was granted, he would find the services
which he had
the re which he had rendered '\lr
reference to Canada to maintain the position 'e
-should not the important questions of extending the suffragejesty, and by the Act of the Legislature, depended upon those . resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received one.- to the public recorded in the Act of Parliament conferring theges . guaranteed to the House. Ho had suggested: and shortening the duration of Parliament be considered be- e' arrangements which would be made on the settlement of the Monday. pension.
Prop ety of taking a vote of credit in the event of the. fore the present was hurried to a ?He regretted the ' 'civil list. Therefore it behovedthe House not to take any sf COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY (MISCELLANEOUS n Mr. C. 13ARCL AY had a constitutional objection to al-
Bill not passing, which he, for one,gladly concurred• b tof t. '
• cause he held that it w ••
that
indeed
to be a
Government. Th '-• •atthe . _ 5
in, em wan ac env manifested by the existing e. ate - ESTIMATES).
mild' be satisfactory to the Canadians '• people were not to be satisfied with mere promises—they de-,''e jesty's revenues. He trusted that no Hon. Gentleman, when 1 On the motion of Mr. FRANCIS BARING, the House the House.
these measures should be carried into effect. There sves,Vinanded action. Something done •t• 1
ought to be one 1 i were only ' the whole question of the civil list was reserved for discussion,
+: resolved itself into a Committee of Supply. Mr. Bramah fur the front of Buckingham Palace, were re-
' from his factory and they are now being erected under
' ;moves. , , .
see 1
.t re mar .
lowing Members of that House to receive salaries unknown t0)44 •LI
The subject then dropped. ble archway. Her Majegy has expressed her wish '
be for her town residence 'l'
Y. that the Palace might got ready a-
.. SOOrr as possible.
DEATH oF KING WILLIANI, AND SUCCEssieli
k ,ihrk .
' TOPTA —The Dispu'eli of Sunday next, e:.
f one point upon which he regretted the course intendeere to keep the Tory party from place for which they were obvi- ~ would consider it expedient to raise a discussion upon onei On the motion that 120,0001. be granted for civil conthee Mr. G. YOUNG said, in consequence of the introduction lee' °T `4l'; ',EN Ire : . ' • • matiou adopted by his Noble Friend. He meant that he should
s, ously panting, although they had for popular virtue enough: portion of it. At the same time he was free to admit that '-g'elleles for the ensuing year, z-25 will contain,
of the Poor-law Act into certain parishes in London, the con- se ,
propose, under existing circumstances, and at the presentee to make a bidding for item( L„ h ) The to the existing state of the law as to the four_and-a-half per Sir E. CODRINGTONe expressed a hope that the Chan- ntributions to the support of the Fever Hospital had
time to • ghter. and c eers.
ek • • • greatly,g
~._. nominate a Committee on the subject of Church leases, Tories evidently desired to obtain the reins Government, , cent duties, imposed, as they were upon particular islandsee cellos of the her would avail himself of that oppor- diminished and be thought it was incumbent on the Govern-erepeat '
1
"us keeping alive the excitement which prevailed on the sub-hand that replenishment of pocket which office• hand-appropriated as they now were b 1 certain jest Without in brought with.. , y law to specific" urn yot 't f • hthe Government dt 4 to recommend for that bli h 1h "
saying whet er
.s.eJs,, the slightest degree tending to the settlement it ; ypt they did not seem to have the flower to make a bid_ -purposes—the whole ecclesiastical charges of the West Itz- grant any sum of money for the erection of a statue to theme Consolidated Fund. In addition to its usual variety of infer
'e•
impartial i'.of King; Account of his
es a full and istory the late
h and all the co
the New Reign;
consequent ,
Country under
England.—Dispatch an . tspa c lOffice,l39, •esEn IdD• t 1 proceeding. • Prospects of thete
P be ole to the Queen ofe
Fleet-streete
er 'that great question. In saying this, however, he (Lord , ding to the people.—(Hear.) All thee, could say was diet e dies being placed upon that fund—he was not disposed to ad- memory of Lord Nelson in Trafalgar-square. The Right, Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought it would be inexpedientLt3 The proclamation of the Queen Victoria took place.
memorable in the annals of
xeStanlo e
Ye was not disposed to throw any obstacle in the was` of •• they desired that the laws enacted stated n • dead '' here and should at a future period take an opportunity of4l-lon. Gentleman should at once boldly` come forward, and 'to make any rant of public money to rapport any partienlar.7(n th 2 anniversary of a dee not leg' itme
the not remain , e fact that bears the same
.name as
measure which her Majesty's Government might bringe:letters.—( Hear.) Under these circumstances he, for one, stating the alterations which he thought it was proper theMpropose a sum of money for the Purpose. eihospital. e. British fame than for the , battle of Vittoria,leo
herscif—toe
es,forward et th 1 e
r —. close of the Session. He wished time to ex- :., wls extr. gel anxious to get all he could out of the present Legisegure should make with respect to those t u ics and The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER fully eon-q Mr. WA KLE Y concurred in what had been said by the ethe Queen of England
Illka'=e

LAW INTELLIGENCE.

1 COURT OF CII:iLVCERY, Jura 23.
, SINIPSON V. LORD BOWDEN.
jin this case, the particulars of which we stated yesterday in,
!our Law Report, and which was not concluded when we went,
to Press, his Lordship postponed his judgment.
1

COURT OF COMMON PLEAS,
PLANCHE V. BIZAHAM.
In this eve, which was not finished yesterday when our Rel
porter quitted the Court, the Jury found fur the Plaintiff—
Damages, 40s.

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