The Sun.
London, England, 1837-03-08 00:00:00

LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY.

DEAL, NlAacir 7.—Wind N.B. light airs.—Arrived the
Regatta, Blany, from Belfast ; and the London, --, from
Bridport. The Elizabeth, Whitmore, from Jamaica to Lon-
don, and an American barque, are at anchor off' the South
Foreland.

PoaTsmourn, MARC!! 7.—Wind N.E.—Arrived his Ma-
jesty's ship Snake, from the Eastward ; and the Quebec,
from New York for London, sailed Feb. 11.
PLYMOUTH, MARC!! 7.—Wind N. N. W.—Arrived the Her.
cules steamer, from London.

FALMOUTH, MARCH 6.—Variable light airs.—No arrivals.
LIVERPOOL, MARCH 6.—Variable light airs.—Arrived the
Perseverance, Adams, from Cadiz.
DUBLIN, MARcu s.—Arrived the Emerald, Tuck, London.
HULL, MARCH 6.—Arrived the Edward, Fairburn, frona
Gottenburg.
MARYPORT, MARCH s.—The Stamper was got off this
morning and into the harbour.

KIRK—WALL, FFn. 27.—The stern of a boat with George d
Aberdeen, James Simpson, and some cabin boards, and pieces
of Pork, have been driven on shore in the Island of Eday during
the week.

The Favourite, of Workington, has been got off, and is now
going fast for Workington, and is expected to be got safe intro
harbour this tide.

THE FUNDS.-(TELISDAY.,

CITY, TWELVE O'CLOCK.
Our arrivals this morning are the French mails and ship-
letters from Bombay, Nov. sth, and New York, Feb. 12th, by
the Quebec. We have New York papers to the 12th Feb.,
from which we take the following extracts :—.
" Buenos Ayres papers to the 29th Nov. contain a remon-
strance by the British Consul General in Peru, addressed to
the Commander of the Chilian squadron on the Peruvian coast,
complaining of the interruptions and alarms occasioned to Bri-
tish commerce.

" The Argentine Republic seems to enjoy great tranquillity.
The civil wars in the Banda Oriental had been brought to a
successful issue, and the inaurgents dispersed.
" Stocks in New York were very firm, and in some descrip-
tions the operations were very great. About 25 hundred
shares of the United States Bank were sold principally at 117
cash, and 117 i to 118 on time. Over three thousand Dela-
ware sold at from 91 to 93—a good deal doing in Morris and
other stocks, all of which were firm. The Money Market is
without any change, but there is no pressure. A little later
news is received from Florida. It appears that the celebrated
chief called Jumper, and the Negro, Abraham, have been
captured. We are favoured with uncommon fine weather.
Exchange 9} to 10.
" MONEY-This all. engaging topic has been of more than
ordinary interest this week. At the commencement, Bills on
England rose so rapidly, and the calls for specie from Europe
and Philadelphia were so loud, that great fears were enter-
tained that we should have had another pressure. The offer-
ings at the Bank have fallen off very materially, and there is
more disposition to discount ; consequently the pressure has
not been great. All the first-rate notes within the Bank limit
have disappeared from the street, and those of long date are
taken at 1 to 1. per cent. a month.
" SPEClE.—Wall.street has been in commotion this week.
The Banks in Philadelphia have called from here about seven
hundred thousand dollars, and full half a million of dollars
have been shipped to Europe. That portion that has gone to
Philadelphia is, a part of it, on its way back already. New
York is not in debt to any portion of our country as to ex-
ports. We have received 330,000 dollars from Mexico,
and at New Orleans 900,000 dollars have been received.
so that the balance is in favour of this country.
" ExcumsoE—Foreign.—We have had a week of more than
ordinary interest. Bills on England have been advancing
until they have got up to 110 i, which is full If per cent. in
favour of specie shipments. It however happens that silver
is the only coin that will answer to ship—viz., Mexican dol-
lars to England, and five franc pieces and half dollars to
France. The Bank, when called on, pay foreign gold, which
compels shippers to pay a premium of about one per cent. on
silver, which, with the trouble of shipping, makes it equiva-
lent to Bills. Exchange is now down to 110, but it still ranges
too high."

TILE FUNDS.

Everything continues perfectly tranquil in the city respect-
ing commercial affairs ; but we are rather dull iu respect to
information from the north of Spain.
Consols closed yesterday buoyant at 90f for the Account,
and 90 for Money—opened this morning at 901 for the Ac-
count, and 90,+ for Money Little business doing as yet.
Exchequer Bills 26 28 prem. ; India Bonds 23 25 ; Bank
Stock, 207 208.

In the Foreign Market, Spanish Active closed at 25—im-
proved this morning to 251 ; Portuguese, 484- 49 ; Three
per Cents., 311- 32 ; Dutch Two-and- Half per cents., 53+
The New York Journal of Commerce gives the following
—" Commerce of New York. We are now enabled to pre-
sent our readers with a statement in round numbers of the
value of goods imported into the city from foreign countries
during the entire year of 1836, in contrast with those of
1935,
,showing an increase of 30,000,000 dollars. It Kill
be observed, however, that during the last quarter of the
year there was no increase. Value of imports into Now
York, 83,000,000 in the year 1835; in the year 1836►
118,000,000.

HALF-PAST ONE O'CLOCK.
The intelligence from Buenos Ayres in the American
papers received this morning is not of so late a date a 3 pre-
viously received, but they confirm the former accounts.
The accounts from I3ombay are of an old date.

FUNDS.

Commercial affairs have resumed a brighter appearancel
and money is more easy, which can be obtained on Stock an
°
Exchequer Bills.
Consols, which were in the early part of the morning 90114
reached 901 for the Account ; at present they are not gote
so good, and may be quoted 9041- ' • Money, 90-k• FA
chequer Bills, 28 26 29 prem. ; India Bonds, 25 26 prem. ;
Bank Stock shut.

In the Foreign Market Spanish Active 25-,3-I—this improve-
ment is owing to their coming from Paris ?,- per cent. higher ;
Passive, 7 74 ; Deferred, 101 11 ; Portuguese, 483- 49;
Three per Cents., 3171 32 ; Dutch Two-and-a- Half per GOIAS.,
531
it
According to private information received this morning,_a
was expected that General Espartero's advanced guard
els
reached Durango on the Ist inst. ; we may, therefore,
expect to boar of the combined attack on the Carlists.
THREE O'CLOCK.
Consols for ti) Account 903 it.

Last night, at half-past eleven o'clock, a fire broke
out in St. Giles's workhouse. Immediately that it was Tie
covered the inmates were called up to render assistance.
parish engine was promptly got into action, and informatioe
was sent to the various fire-engine stations. In a short tun
l
a number were on the spot, and there being an excellent suPy
iro 0.
of water, the flames were extinguished by a quarter past twe
The new Master of the Horse to his Excellency t"
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, in the place of William
Esq., resigned to the [lon. Captain Vaughan, brother t°
ds
Earl of Lisburne ; the emoluments are eight hundred pout
per annum. Mr. Perry has held the appointment abou
twelvemonth.
Among other candidates for the vacant see of Salirs9
bury, rumour mentions one of the preceptors of the Princwo
Victoria. Dr. Fisher, the predecessor of the late Bishop,
preceptor to the lamented Princess Charlotte.

IMPERI

AMEN T

HOUSE OF LORDS, MARCh 7.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat a few minutes after
five,

CHURCH-RATES.
Earl SHA FTE SHUR Y presented various petitions from
the county of Somerset against the abolition of Church-rates.
Lord DA CRE presented petitions from' Royston, Chissel,
Leicester, and other places, praying for the total abolition of
Church-rates.
_ The Bishop of BATH and WELLS presented petitions
from various parishes in the county of Somerset against the
abolition of Church-rates.
The Bishop of LL A NDA FF said that he held in his hand
a petition, which he thought required to be brought to the
attention of the House. It was in effect, though not in form,
county petition. It was agreed to at a meeting regularly
Called together, and held in the County Hall. It was con-
tidered a religious, and not a political meeting, and there-
fore all the friends of the Established Church had had
the opportunity of attending it. It was attended by a great many
of the gentry and clergy of the county. The meeting was opened
by prayer and concluded by prayer, and in the prayer of the
petition he entirely concurred, which was, that their Lordships
would not consent to pass any measure for the abolition of Church •
rates, because such a measure would sever the Church from
the State, and afterwards there would be no longer an Esta-
blished Church. The petition was from the county of Mon-
mouth. The Right Rev. Prelate then presented petitions
from a great many parishes in the same county, to the same
effect.

UNIVERSITY STATUTES.
Lord RADNOR laid on the table a Bill to appoint Com-
missioners to inquire into the Statutes of the different Halls at
Oxford and Cambridge, with a view to prepare new Statutes
should the old ones have become obsolete, and of better car'-
vying into effect the objects of those Statutes.
.Lord BROUGHAM hoped that the Noble Lord meant
to. include Westminster, and the other places in the
Bill, which hadbeen excepted by the Bill that appointed Charity
Commissionem.'
Lord RADNOR did not mean to include those places.
His attention had been called to this subject by what took
place two years ago when he introduced a Bill on the sub-
ject ; and he bad acquired such information since as to induce
-him to hope would cause their Lordships to pass the present
Bill. He knew not why Eton, Westminster, and other places had
been excepted in the Bill appointing Charity Commissioners,
.hat it was not his intention to include those places in the
present Bill.
The Bill was then read a first time, and the Noble Lord
gave notice that he should move the second reading this day
fortnight.
Lord DUNCANNON laid on the table the Report of the
Ecclesiastical Commissioners of Ireland from August last, and
Moved that it be printed.

CHURCH LANDS.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH wished to know from the
Noble Viscount opposite, whether he had any objection to lay
on the table a statement of the questions which had been put
to Mr. Finlayson on the subject of Church property, and the
answers which had been returned to those questions?
Lord MELBOURNE was not able to give an answer to
the question at present, but he would inquire if the papers were
'n such a state as that they could be laid before the House.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH wished to ask the Noble Vis-
count whether the calculation that showed that by the opera-
tion of the new Bill for the management of Church
P,,,roperty, there would be placed at the disposal of the
Commissioners 250,0001. for providing for Churches—whether
that calculation rested upon the supposition that all the con-
version of the leases into perpetuities took place immediately ?
Lord MELBOURNE said he apprehended it did not rest
on the ground that that took place immediately. •It
"as matter of detail, but he apprehended that if the leases
were to be converted into perpetuities, an increased rate would
144 be paid—therefore he considered it did not.
Lord IWO UG HAM did not quite agree with his Noble
Priend that this was matter of detail—not that he was going to
°PPose the measure ; but he should like to know whether, ac-
,cording to his Noble Friend's conception, the lessees would
°are the option of not renewing under the Deans, Bishops,
and so on if they pleased,*till the very last year ; or if they
'eeved, to suffer these leases to expire. The Noble and
Learned Lord took it for granted that they would have that
°Pii°n, which he did not understand.
'Lord MELBOURNE—No, certainly not. They would
not have that option.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that the only answer
which he could give to that was, that it now appeared of
great importance that he should have the papers which he had
rat requested—which was a statement of facts, questions, and
answers.
Viscount MELBOURNE said that he did not refuse to lay
those papers on the table ; his doubt was if they were at pre-
sent in a form fit to be produced.
Lord HOLLAND said that all the statements required
Would be laid on the table before the Bill was introduced in
that House. It was important that they should be so.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH—Then the sooner we have
them the better.
Lord HOLLAND—Quite the contrary.—( A laugh.)
Lord BROUGHAM said that he agreed with the Noble
Lord opposite as to the necessity of having the papers as soon
as Possible.
of Lord ASHBURTON said that the measure was one
the g
vital importance, and there were so many
.
Interests involved in it, that he considered they
Uteould have some correct calculations upon which the
!teasure was founded.—( Hear.) He did not then want
o discuss the general principle of the measure, but he wished
tf° learn if the calculations upon which the measure was
h°ett_nded were borne out.--( Hear, hear.) As. for himself
70u.,1ddid not
say, that considering these calculations
heeP-nku , on any improvement in Church-lands—for
atyo had
not heard that they did not at present
r 4 as ample produce as could be expected—.
-,^ould say, that considering this, it appeared to him that the
t!tculations were founded upon some conjuring—some con-
lataanc° in the distribution, by which the value of Church
.trims was to be increased. That, however, appeared to him,
hpPresent, tbe qite uninelligible. He could not se how,
Y contrivo anceu tof that nature, the value of those lands
w•ust be increased ; he would as soon believe, on the showing
Mr
Finlayson, or of any other calculator, that four persons
lin sit down to a game of whist, and all rise up winners.
se,.e the measure was one which had been introduced by Go-
thit t!ant. and it would be presumptuous for him to say now
het , Be calculations were incorrect upon which it was. founded.
,''o .would state that it was desirable their Lordships should
fr. in Possession of them as soon as possible.—( Hear, hear. )
tiabs a Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that all the calcula-
tre•a,°Pon which the measure was founded had been made with
Care, and the object which the House had was doubtless
W6,°„ 01 possession of the information which had been sought
(HZ. the Bill came up to their Lordships' House.—
the hear.) But at present he could not say in what shape
kislit`tt would be sent up to them, or how the calculations
the delt'e made to bear on it in the other House, where it was
Which Y of Government to give that information upon
u"erefo;t might either he adopted or rejected ; at present
-crew Le it could not be stated how those calculations
hi-Quill:Jo made to bear on the Bill, which would not be
tion 41 up to that House without the most ample considera-
Nhle 114 t:
, question in which, as had been stated by the
Lem ~„1 opposite, so many great interests were involved.
given •c'LLENBOROUGH said that the measure had
nnder..reat alarm to lessees of Church lands, as it was
tees n°0(1 that it contained penal terms as to those
per-
The
t7llO
refused to accede to the proposition contained in it.
riightsvilna 8 offered by the measure, which were disclosed a few
rgo to the lessees under the Church in England, were
140Pe
_cent. worse than those offered to the lessees in Ire-
13,_r Ariother disadvantage which the English lessee laboured
zntliseitreisswsheansie,t:sheeatlvhaes was forced to come' into the plan, while
protected hy clauses in the Bill. It was
measure ial to have a discussion upon the full principle of the
th_ on the first opportunity, so that those interested in
elhmeeassivarre might understand it.
was a goodglus of LANSDOWNE said the then discussion
illustration of the great inconvenience which was
the result of the
lions. He vvouldGaTosetralnmePt giving answers to isolated ques-
_nd would only further say thuam
Zce.r.ned had been most caref 11 going into the question then,
t the interests of all parties co
Lord
e Igoe
nedonrseigdueiraerd.manTnheensubject ought
ELLENBORO UG H.—If he thought he could
him
a-_earnswer from the Noble Marquis, he would like to ask _
vne e.:the lands lie which he held under the Church ? Did
t?, 3' he in the nei hbo t',e midst of an aftg. urhood of large towns, or were they in
11_1" he would ,r!cultural district? Because, if the former,
latter'
he derive much benefit from the Bill ; but, if the
,„
he_ would not.
or,,,!LiMarquis of LANSDOWNE would not answer the
.e,tlon because it would lead to others. They would most
otieitY,geet,into a premature discussion of the measure, which
be avoided.
D said he held lands under the Church in
ouid A _
ssure
him mentioned by the Noble Baron opposite,
and he
Lr° that that measure would be beneficial.
acted aeted •HATHERTON thought that his Noble Friends
4,estie_with
.much discretion in refusing to answer the
hlogsee- N"s which had been put to them. He would only remind
(>l4O Lordsat opposite that thediscussion in the other
the was not yet finished and that it had been adjourned
baron e(ai.P,,r,ess_ wish of the leader of the friends of the Noble
shLo ienboroneh) in the other House.
it rd BROUGaAM presented a petition signed by six
tbs..aodreppeearlsbn,s,
al many of them Churchmen, praying for
&lite • u, Church-rates. He did not wish to renew
nateanssion, if such it might be termed, which had just ter-
ear.) He was. perfectly aware of the difficulty
eliged nog such questions produced. He felt himself
,It4e:po.;tioionwever to draw the attention of the Government to
deader co the measure, in order that they might, give
ta,„ nsiaeration and amend it, for he considered it
e mIY bad. Hethat •
t°6 e4ecs_meant portion of
.it. which regarded
it left 0 Uhurch. He was of opinion that it, ought
er the
oaseprional to them to renew with the customar fines.
and minerals, instance, in the Bishopric
thfellurlatei°raminesfor
Aof and Northumberland which was pretty nearly
pee"- lauds held in or near towns, it was well worth
person's whil icl, %Quoit. e. to pay a sum of money for the mineral land.
tteraewatPiendee:chhe owever, it might be so arranged in detail as not workinors of the plan, making it a matter of con-
particular case, between the Commissioners to
eettittilinted and the lessees, subject to certain rules and
The 1?a•
tear bish°P
hEXd ETER trusted that as the Noble and
lesse:4, Lord
t° ne would abe correctly stated the rights of
invert found when the proper time came
leac4l.'tup the
ant question—( Hear, hear)—equally
.444
do:lbOt
ijtUvriitoicue.
_to her parties--the lessors. lie
would be present to the Noble and Learned

Lord's mind, that the restraint upon the Church from
granting leases was for a specific object, namely, to protect the
permanent interests of the Church, and to prevent holders of
Church property from wastefully throwing away that property,
according to the present annual value. That was the reason
why Sir John Smith introduced a statute in the reign of
Queen Elizabeth to protect the interests of the Church.
The true principle in his opinion was to rem-we the restricting
power pro Canto, and to enable the Church to grant building
leases.

Lord BROUG H A M felt honoured by the observations of
the Right Rev. Prelate, as to his endeavours to do his duty in
that House; and be could have no hesitation in assuring him
that he should apply his mind to the consideration of the ques-
tion with a resolution to do justice to the lessors as well as lessees.
If the Right Rev. Prelate meant by justice to the lessors a
resistance or opposition to the measure, as it was understood to
be founded, he (Lord Brougham) would only say that he had
directed his attention about 3 or 4 years ago to another sub-
ject in many particulars the same, both in that House
and in conjunction with his then colleagues in the Admini-
stration ; and that on the fullest consideration, viewing the
rights and the interests of all parties, they came to a clear
and unhesitating, but nevertheless a deliberate opinion,
that the right of the lessors would not be impaired, and that
justice would not be sacrificed by the principle of the measure.
He would say with great diffidence, a diffidence becoming in any
person when the subject was so important, that the case as
regarded its justice was perfectly clear, and from the best
opinion he was able to arrive at, it appeared to him that
the measure, in its fundamental principles, and with the ex.
ception alluded to respecting the lessees, was perfectly con-
sistent with right, justice, and principle.
The Nonr.E LORD next presented a petition from the stu-
dents preparing for the Ministry of the Dissenting Congrega-
tions, in favour of the abolition of Church-rates ; also from
the city of Worcester, to the same effect.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.
A Message from the Commons brought up an Inclosure Bill,
and other private Bills, which were severally ordered to be
read a first time.

CHURCH-RATES.
Lord HOLLAND presented a petition from Bath in favour
of the total abolition of Church-rates.
Petitions against the abolition of Church-rates were next
presented by Viscount Exmouth, by the Earl of Shaftes-
bury, and by Lord Ashburton.
The Bills on the table were then forwarded a stage.
The Bishop of RIPON presented several petitions against
the abolition of Church-rates.
The House then adjourned till Thursday.