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j3y- VIRTUE. of a COAIMISSION of APPRAISE-
.NIENT and SALE; issued out of the HIGH COURT
of ADMIRALTY of,EN.GLAND, ,
WILL BE SOLD BY AUCTION,
At the Island of Guernsey, on Monday the 26th of April,
tEgt
.THE following GOODS, now lying in Ware-
A houses at Guernsey, and there to be delivered, viz .
996 HIDES in the Hair,
go Large CASES of SUGAR
being the entire Cargo,of the Danikh•Brig Neptunus, Ana-
tus Torgrinson Master, from Lisbon bound to Bilboa.
For viewing the Goods,- or any other Paiticulars,aprqy
to Mr.. Solomon Langa i McrehAnt,
.Guernscy ; for
SamPles of the Sugar, &e. to Messrs. Priam t and
V 4; eAOII, Merchants,. Weymouth.

• TO BE PEREMPTORILY. SOLD.
Pursuant to an Order of the High Court of Chancery,
drawl the UV Das of Jan.,lBer, made in a Caitse,.en—'
titled WH E
A'rMORE against EARL 'and Others, on
the zoth Day .of March, tBot, bow= the HoUrs of
One and Two o'Clock in the Afternoon, before' Peter
Volford, Esq. °De of the Masters of the said Court, at
the Public Sale.rooni of the said Court, in Soutliampo
ton•huilcfings, Chancerv-lanc, in One Lot ;
C EVERAL .PIECIIS or PARCELS of FREE
HOLY) LAND, 'part of the Estates late of ED.
WARD 'WHATMORE, Esq. deceasd, situate Ifrithin
the, Manor of 'Woodhall, near Tadeaster, in the County
for. York.
PartitUlars whireof may be had (gratis) at the said Nfas-
ter's Chambers, in Southampton-buildings aforesaid ; or
Mr. Fraser, Staple Inn, Loudon; 'and of Wm. Dawson,
Esq. of Tadcaster.

For RIIEUMATISMS, SPRAINS, BRUISES, &c.
.Dr. STEERS's OPODELDOC. •
T T is with real regret that the Proprietors of
.I. this Medicine (in consequence of the extraordinary rise
upon Spirits, and upon olher articles of which it is corn-
pnSed),. And themselves under the necessity of having re-
course to the same measure which they adopted in 1795,
namely, that of adding Sixpence iwt-Bottle to the Price, in
order that they may be able to-continue the business with
a fair profit. They, however, pledge themselves to the
Public, that when any material And permanent reduaion
in the articles of this CoMPosition shall take circa, they
will again tower the charge, and give notice of it, as flu ty.
did upon theformer occasion..

Tlie superior excellence~
of this Medicine, and the con-
sequent deMand, having.produced a variety of Imitations,
Purchasers are requested to observe, that on the outside
of each Bottle of the Genuine . Opodeldoc is pasted a
Stamp, in which are engraved these *voids-4, F. New_
bery, No. 45,, Sr. Paul's." All others are counterfeit....
Sold only by F. Newbery, at. the Warehouse for Or.
tines's, Powder,' Nil. A 5, in St. Paurs.Church-yard, a'
tew doors from the corner of Cheapside, London ; and by
his appointment, by• Messrs- Jeboult and Co. No, yso
and J. Pidding, No. 76, Oxturd,,street ; Vad, Oki
Bond-st.fret ; Bayley and Co. CoCkspur.street ; Godfrey
and Cooke, Southatuptonstreeti J. Ward; Middle-row,
Holborn ; T. Tutt, 'ltovalExchangei and W. Clarke,
Borough, High-street, Price 2s. 6d. per Bottle,
ing thi Stamp, or six for 13s. 6d;
N. B. As the Opodeldoc for Exportation is exempted
from the Stamps' and therefore deprived of that mark of
suthentiCity, and as:great quantities of counterfeits are
sent Out of the Kingdom, all persons abroad,•tb prevent
such impositions; are dt:sired to. be particular in ordering
their Agcnts. to .procure, thini Medicine from Mr. Now-
befits.

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Monday, 11f.ire6 sCth,
. „
THE Post.:Rty brit:king the Mail from Stvev.,.
Oaks to Brontlty was stopted between the 17 and 16
Mile Stones from ffonaorr, about a Quarter past Pitt' o'clock tbis
Morning, by a Man on Foot; who Neal:tries .Pistol, den .a..rd.
cd the Mail, and swore he would. 6
.hrtv the Pettißcy's brains
RYE,. C R "MB RUOK,
out if he was'not
The Ribber took from the Boy the
i 3
BATTLE,' 't
Bags for ban: TUNBRIDGE,,
LAMBERIICIRST; I • asnd.
,TBNTERP.BN, • tSBI7 JIN OAKS.
fle appeared to be a young' Man, was d'reised in a Snrii ek:
Frock; a roinrd'Hat, with a. Lier_i.cieittra Handier:4lll•4l;d.
round it.
. .
The Bidden:len and Cranbrook Bags have been faun! we
.ofieved ; all t& rest of the Bags have Aerti opened, brit many of
the Letters are unopeci.
Whoever shall apprehend and cortrn, or cause to be.attre-
beinkst and convuried,t& Tersonl/44,h0 eon:witted the said RobkrtY •
toil! bi entitled:Oa Rethard of TWO HUNDRED POURDSi
over and above the Reward given by Att of Parliament for
apprehending of Highwaymen s .Or r f and decomplice in the
Robbery shall surrender himself,. and Mahe discovet-y, Whereby
the Persen who committed the same m.o. be apprehended ono r _
brought to Ymstice. such piscoVercr. well be entitled to the
said Reward, and 'gill alsoreeeive liis 41.a.je.cLy's most graciour,
Pardov...
fly Command of Nt Majesty's PostitsisterXeneral,
FRANCIS .FREELINC;, Sec_

This Day was publi;betl, Prite
IBLIOTHEOtJE COIVIPL4TE et. choisie
Ltanucds. _
am to.utes,ls4 Gasses,
Qt• (Wis la t des

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Par M. L.. lltri'EN •
liistoriographe du Rol d7.4.ngle.tefre', kc. ,
SOld.by.A.-Dula`u and Co; .Spho.:.squarc ; Of whom 'mirk -
be had 'a)so, 'Orignie des I)couvert:S. attribui.'es aut
M idtrnos ceul! res-nat.lits. lis one fixi:cz.•giiiils'est passe;
pour d' etablisserne.nt unc 1 Cgone 141 Angkterrej, &c.
L'ArnideS.etrangers, &c. by rho same Authof.:

TO BF SOLD 13'i AUCTWN.
By 'WILLIAM SEAMANi'
At the King's Head, in the Ma.rtict Place, Great -'Vat-
mouth, on Thursday the. Nth Ittitrej;:rigoi, at. ti
o'ClOck (unless 400ner disposed of by Kivate Cbnt:iitel„
of which timely notice will be give-n)
rir HE—CUTTER, late called dIr.Z.I)XE of
YORK,. but now called the..15..AN0 'of: `PKCISStjt,
of the,acbileasurement of sg:,fons, non! lying in Varmouth.-
Riven; eomple.ttly: fitted up iS a Nam, with 15
and every Convenience, and with all her .Materials as frOnt
and fit for-Sea. .
. This Vessel is only s yearS• old, I's a remarkably list .
sailer, and has been employed ;ever since she was bttilt,' as
'a Packet-Boat between I,ondontind Hamburgh, and Yar.,
mouth and,Hainbure,h.
Printed Inventorics of leer Ftirnitu'ie and. Materiali
be had; applying to the Auelionecr,- ir,"farrnotith.

IHtfVIITHELMSTONE. '
.TO .SOI.D BY AUCTION; .
• . lir Mr. STILES, . •
At the Castle Tiatern,- Brighthelmstone' ;on hriday the
Loth Day of Mgch, 180 z, betWeentheHours of Seved
and Eight ih the Evening ;
COMMODIOUS HOUSE, forbicrly the. •
Residence, and part of.. the Estate of HENRY •
H RALE, Esq. deceased; situate in West-street, Bright- ~.
helinstonei and fur many years past used as a 'Ledgingii,
house; with an excellent Garden, .upwards of too feet in
dept?--by- 6o feet in
.width ; .toglither witl a Piece
Ground at the lower end of West-street, near the Sea; ;
upwards of too feet in depth, and fronting both in Wett'..
greet and the We st- tree t- lane

'4. For, further Particulars apply to Messrs Tourle, 1,4.
Mei and PUgh, in Bartlett's-buildings ; or at tho
of Mr. J. C. Mitihell, on the Steyne, Brighton.

ON THE BORDERS O 1 HERTFORDSH4RE;
With Possession at Michaelmas next,
TO BE'SOLD BY AUCTION;,-
By Mr. RAINE,
On Thursday next, the 19th inst. at the Kinli'slidad,
Bishop Stortfoftl, Hertfordshire, at Two o'Clock;-itt
Nine Lots I : •
ACapital FtEEHOLD FARM, very deiir,
. ably situated a short distance from -the Turnpike-
road, between HocketiL and Quendun, at MALLARDS'
GRE EN,, in the Parish of Manutien, in the - County of
Essex, containing in the whole about zoo-Acres of good
Land, in the occupation of Mr. J.Lines Piper, as Tenant
at Will, who and his Family hay..: held the same fur Many
tears at an old Rent.

This Estate is capable of very considerable hnprove.
ment, hcing surrounde I by hard yonds, and within an easy
distance of the, Navigation • from Stratfoid to the River
Lea, near Ware, whereby'the produce may be sold to the
best advantage ; and ashes, chalk, or lime for manure
easily attained, - •
TO be viewed, by leave of the Tenant; of wheim printed
Pailichlars maybe had ; also at the Place of Salc ; at the
Saiacen's dead, Ware ; Cock, Epping ; at the Printers
of the Ctunbridge and Cheithsford Papers ; at the Rain-
b4)w Coile-e-house, Cornhill ; „Mr. Murray, Symond'S.-
Inn ; and Mr. Raine, Land Surveyor, Charlotte-street,
Bloomsbury, London, where a correct plan may be seen.

SA LE of a'4 ALUA 13. L.E ESTATE, delightfully 'situated
on the.River'.Nith, in the Neighbourhood of 4 he TOWN
of DUMFRIES, Scotland.. . • , •
• TO BE SOLD'ILY kuBLIt Aticrid%
At the' RainboW 'Coni-e-houst, Cotnhill, London, Oil
- Monday. the'2.oth April.next, betwixt the hours of Ono
and Two in the -Afternoon ;
THE FIVN POUND LAND of Old Extehe,
of CONHE ATLI, with the Tiends and Pertirientst,
lying within the Parish of Carlaverock, and Sherilfiloth
of Dumfries, holding feu of the Duke i.vf.Queeniberry, for
payment of •Two Shillings Scots of.-Feu-duty.
This Estate is beautituilv situated on the River Nith,
about four measured miles below the Town of Diiinfriet,
commanding an extensive view of the windings, of that
4ivcr, the Solsvisy Friths and Coast of Cum ierlancl:
It contains upwards of 400 St:OtS Statute Acres (being
More than goo English Acres), all Arable, except about,
17 Acres In Wood and Planting,, and about _so Acres of
Moss. The whole is inclosed with march fines, and
subdivided into convenient Inclosures, several of them
with Hodges and. Rows' of 'frees.--A great part of the
grounds arc of atiuxeceding good quality, and the whole
are:capable of much improvement at a moderate expence,
from the Sea Sleach out of the Nith, which Nvashes the
Estate fora considerable way, and where she tide flows to
a great height.
The present Rental is about 3351. exclusifeof the Man-
sion House, Offices, Garden, and Orchard, %yell stdrked,
with Fruit Trees, oh which no Rent. is put.
The Tenant on the Shore, by putting Weirs into the
Riper, 'las of late been very successful in catching Sal-
mon ; and, it is believed, that at a modtrate expence; a
considerable Fishing might be established.
The Quay ereaed by the Town of Dumfries at Glen-
caple, to Shah vessels of grearbUrden come, is adjoining' .
to the Estate, .and a good road from Dumfries to•the Quay
runs through the ,q rounds, parrot' which along the Road,
and adjoining to the River, might be fenced to ihuehad-
vantage.-
The-Wood and Planting on the Estate are thriving and
valuable.
The Tenants will shew the Premises.. •

A Plan of the-Estate, and.the Conditions of Sale may
be seen on app.l ication to Messrs. Currie ant
Edinburgh; Wellweibd 'Maxwell, Esq. of Burnclough,
Dumfries; Messrs. Cooper and Lowe, Solicitors; South-
arhpton Buildings, Chanccry-lanc, London ; Mr., Robert
Bigg, Solicitor, Bristol; or George Ot'i-ed, Solicito,„
verpool: any further particulars that may be required,
Will he furnished iturnecliately by 'Mr. Orrcd.

IMPERI4L PARLL4MENT.

HOUSE OF PEERS.

MONDAY, MARCH 16.

THE Earls Of STAMFORD and EGLINGTOUN,
and Lord AMHERST were sworn and took their
MILS.
- The Marquis of SALISBURY (Lord Chamber-
lain) reported His MA; mires Answer to the
late Address of the House, rebate to' the
Journals, &c. bf the; PArlianient Of Ireland,
which stated His Majesty's ;Intention to,
,give
direftions accordingly. •
J-he Bills upon the Table, chiefly private, were
forwarded in their respeftive stages; several of
tte'public Bills went through a Committee •of the
whole House.
DUNDAS, &c. brought up the Post-
Office Duty Bill, and the Paper Tax Bill from the
Ctimmons, which:Were severally read a first time.
private Bills were also presented by Sir
EDWARD LITiLETONs Mr. BARNARD, and other
Gentlemen.
- On the Motion. of Lord AUCKLAND •an Ad-
dress to His MAJES.TY was agreed to, .praying
that he would he graciously pleased to order that
there may be laid before, the House certain' Ac_
counts respdling the net Income of the Post-
Office, exclusive of Pensions:and Parliamentary
qtarits, &c. &c. from the years 1760 to ISO°.
The Earl of DARNLEY observed, that in
order. to• avoid any imputation'. of wishing to,
take the House by surpri?ee, he then gave niitiee,
that on. Friday next he should bring forwatd his
pfOlicistd motion relative the State of the Nation,
and for whiCh day he moved that theit'Lordships
be sum:none. d—which was ordered accordingly.
Some routine business was then disposed of,
and the House adjourned till to=morrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS,

MONDAY, MARCH 16.

Dr. DUTGENAN, Sir W. GRANT Mr. BUR
toN, and another Member took t 1; ..
e• Oaths and
•
their Seats.
Sir fV. ELFORD said he had a Petition to
present w the House; the nature of which he
would state :—lt was from a person of the name
of Koops, the inventor of the method of making
PaPer from Straw. He had already procured' a
Patent for the. discovery, hut- on trial has fund
that in erder to its being turned to any account,
or being practised to any extent, a much larger
Capital than can be supposed possible to be raised
by five.persons, is
,abiolutely
,necessary ; the-first
obje& of the Petition is'therefore for power to
exrend the Coucermito a greater number of persons
than five,. to- whictilie is limited by his patent.
The second objeet-of.the Petition.is of a different
nature. The usual plan in cases of. Patents is,
that the specifications on Which they are granted
are enrolled inChancery ; and it is obvious that
it is thus in the power of any person to procure a
copy of them. The Petitioner has no apprehen-
sions from this on. his own account, as .his Patent
will protottlam in this Country, but his objet
is ,to preyent the discovery from being known
abroad.—He:— therefore petitions that his specifi-
cation in'stead of being. enrolled in 'Chancery,
should be lodged in the hands of the Loa p CHAN-
CELLOR. _

The Petition was brought up and referred to a
CoMmittee.

Mr. I. H. ADDINGTON moved, that the
SPiAKER do grant his Warrants to the Cleric of
the. Crown, to issue -ncw Writs- for the Eletion
of Menibers to serve in Parliament respthively,
for the Borough of Devizes, in' the room of the
Right Hon. HENRY ADD INdTON, who, .since
his eleetion, has accepted the Office of Chancellor
of the Exchequer ; for the Borough of Cprff
Castle, in the room Of INTATHANI BOND, Esq.
and for the Boroaghiof Weobly, in the room of
Lord GEORCETHYNNE, who,. since :heir -elec.
tion, have each accepted the Office of. Commis.:
slim= of tlis Majesty.'s. Treasury.—Ordered.
,Leave of Absence, fora fortnight, was moved
,
for, and granted, to BUSHY, Mr. VYNER,
and several other Members.

Sir W. ELFORD stated, that he. had a Peti-
tion to present to the House,- but as it was of a
nature to .re9uire the consent of 'the Crown, be.
fore it can be received, and as this consent can
regularly only be intimated by the CH ANC El. LOR,
,of the E7CCI/EQUtR, he wished that the time for
receiving Private Petitions might be extended,
for a few days, to obviate the difficulty. He how
ever, made no Motion,- and nothing was done on
the suggestion.
The ATTQBNEY GENERAL gave notice,
that,. to-morrow, he would move for leave to
bring in a Bill to indemnify Persons who have
had their IVlills forcibly pulled awn and de-
tstroytd.

A Message from the Lords intimated that they
had passed three Natural4ation Bills.

Mr. M. A:TecyLott- brought up the_ Report
of the ' Committee ph the Poor Relief Bill.—The
Report was read, the AmendmentS. agreed to ;
a new-Clause was brought up and agreettto to; the
farther consideratiOn of the Reportwas deferred
to Wednesday, and the Bill, as amendedi-was
ordered to be printed.

The American Flour Importation Dill was
read a third time and past. -
Mr. LONG said, that an Hon. Gentleman whom
he now saw opposite to him, had given notice of
a Motion for some day in the end of the week, he
believed Friday : it, no doubt, must be unplea-
sant to the Hun. Gentleman to put off his Motion
so frequently from time to time., but he .hoped
that he would not object to delay it far a few
days longer, in consideration of 'circumstances,
the cogency .Of which he must be fully sensible
of; more especially as he could assure the Hon..
Gentleman that the same ground should not again
be urged for any farther delay.
.Mr. GREY :mid it certainly was extremely
unpleasant to him to have his-Motion so long and
s frcqly,ntly.deferred, bin as the circumstances
ye occasioned this, and on which he was
y..w oni.:e more to defer it, would

not again exist, anti as ne Ilii(1 itil a/ 3U/ ..,....
from the Honourable Gentleman that no farther
application- of ittis .nature thbuld be made to
him, he would. !not objea to, put it off for a
few, .days longel'. - j woUld now make his
e
Itictioisattid ford ay next wiek, that would
be.roost agreeable to Gentlemen opposite. He
had himself thought' of Tuesday, but if any other
- day would...be ..more convenient...he. waiald..hay e
no objdtion. to name it. He wished it, .how-
ever, now to be understood, tliat nothing but
the clearest. grotind • of most urgent • neeessityi-
would again induce him to pbstprie liii 114orio,ri
any farther char? kite-Ag that should now be 11441
on, and that he certainly would* bring it forward
on that day. •7714 • ' . ' ''''' ' ' .
The notice was made for ' Wednesday se'n-
.
night.
.The House resolve; itself isito a Committee on
the Expifiog LaWs. Bill, and the ltepo'tt.was or-
dered to be received to-morrow. , ,: ••.'7.
The Horse Duty 'Biil. wa§,'read a'third time.. ..
M,- ROSE said, on theßepresentation of clic
Commissioners of Hackney.coaehes,, it had been
thought that *it would be.,expedient to exempt
from the. Bill, Horses'ernplOYed'in theui, and that
lie meant to fnoye-an.Ainendment to the.,Bill to,
.that cited.. • . . , .
Mr. M-.---11:1"24YLOR said, that Curates, who
having to travel siiior seven miles to officiate, in
two different churCliejti, in one day, and Who are
,thus obliged to keep a Horse, but whose incomes
are far from enabling them to bear this expense,
)
tiot%lit, in ltis opiniOn; to be exempted as far as
;possible from the operation *of new Taxes. He
was aware, that suchas keep, only one Horse, are
nod affeded by this TaX, but he merely wished to
take this opportunity of suggesting.the propriety
of exempting them from the former Taxes on
Horses, 'and to ask if there would be any ob.
jetaion to such a measure, if proposed.
Mr. ROSE said, that this subject could not
properly be discussed at prefient; as it has no
connexion with this Bill. _ _

'PORTER said, that be thought that the
rate of rent at which it is proposed to exempt
farmers from paying the Tax imposed by this
Bill, was in his opinion much too lbw.; and that
lie had a Clause which he wished to propose, to
fix that rate 'at' Sol. a-year instead of 201.
/11i-. BUXTON thought that the rate originally
proposed, of .aol. a-year was too low, and that
thit proposed by the Hon. Gentleman was too
high, and that a.proper medium might.fie struck
between them.' , • H ,
'Mr. PITT said, that on the suggestion of
several very respetiable Gentlemen, thatlhe
den which this Bill would impose upon the small
farmers in the Northern parts .of .thelCingdom
and in Wales, would be extremely oppressive,
iit liadlieen agreed that an exemption to a certain
extent should be made,' becanse it.was thought
that. relief might be
.given to 'those to whom-. it
was most necessary, without any great detriment
to the. Revenue; 'But if-Gentlemen one. after
another,' ihotild •gb On prOpOsing the eitension
of this exeniption to higher and higher classes of
farmers, he apprehended that great mischief must
ensue, because, it must tend greatly• to diminish
the Public Revenue. •For this reaiton he would
oppose the bringing 'up the proposed Clause.
The Ques don, for bringing up ' the,Clause was
-.2
then negatived;
" Mr. Roia then brought up a Clause to exempt
Farmers,."haVing only two Horses, and who 4o
not pay More Rent than 301. a y'ear, which Was
read and agreed to. ,
An Amendment to the, Bill, exempting Hack;
trey coachliories from -the Duty, was adopted?,
The Bill.ws& then passed.
Mr. M. 4. TAYLOR gave notice, that'iti'
soon as the:CHANCELLOR of the Excilafav,im
shall have taken his Seat,. he would move for.a',
Committee to consider the Duties on Horses, for
the purpose of yoposing, that' Curate 3,. 'Whose
income is not above tool. A year, and who are
lbliged to keep a Horse in order to the discharge,
of their duty, may be exempted from the Pay:),
-• of such Duties- "

ment of such Duties.
Pursuant to order, the Stampt Duty Bill was
read a third time.

. Mr. SHERIDAN said, he hoped there would
now be no objeEtion to the, Amendment which he
had intimated, on a former night; his intention
to propose to increase the DiscOunt allowed by
the Bill to Newspapers. • • ,
Mr. PITT. said, that inquiry bad been made,
and-that it had been found and allowed that the
discount granted by •this Hill, ig a full equivalent
for the new duty imposed. If'other circumstances
lisave tended to impose new hardships on 'the
Newspaper Proprietors, that has,, nothing to do
with this. Bill. Nei understoOd that The rise in
the price of Paper, from various causes; was felt
severely by them ; but the cittetion at present is
merely,,, Whether the .discount allowed by this
Bill is eqUivalent to .the new Duty imposedupon
them ? It may be fair in them to apply for a
repeal:of the limitation; of price set on :News-
paperS4 'they may preseor.a Petition for this Pur-
pose, and. if the House,' on inquiry, should find
chat-circumstances* have •now rendered that
ration severe, it may be removed, and they may
thus have their grievances redressed., But if by
this Bill they. are' subjeetecl to. no. grievance to
Which they would.not have been subjeled inde.
pendent 'of it; he: could see-;no reason.why any
Amendment should .be made or why it
should_ be made the channel of relief from. griev-
ances which result froth °ibex ,Causes and ,circum-
stances . • •

Mr.
.SHERIP AN- said, the Right Hon. Gen_
tletnin had proposed, in a round.about away,
just what he -wished to be done summarily. If
he wished the limitajon of the price of -News-
papers to be continued,. he would then. propose
that an adequate compensation should be made to
the Pioprietors, so that they might remain in the
same situation as when the last arrangements
were Made between the revenue and there, and
when this limitation of price was imposed..l But
if. this is obi:jetted to, then he would propose that
the fimitation of'thc. ptke- of their coMmodity
should be ,taken off, for- although elle Public
already pay t.tdliciet;tl,y high for this commodity,

deaLip it to impose new taxes upon.it, and at the
sal/game to fix a num, :. h an
sliciuld.npt be sold; ince t ; fo er I sco ts-
were -granted, Nur the arran, me" which re
supposed to be fiiial,..were mr ~ o whic . s
the fixing of this Maximorn, many burdens have
fallen on the Newspaper Proprietors ; Paper has
..xisen,..mo re than..3,3.4vi5cnt......4.1,11.4.11,14111.11.
,will raise iv zo.-per cent. .roore. Thqe burdens
take'n 'in 'contfealon ti,ith ehe adaitional expence
to-Which thefin' nit be piiiiiiiiacttiU
, ,„ ~ .
lof rates of. pos't.ligctilipi tl4. niFc -nvt-pcuptateyL,
men's wages,. have redueed,thein touch .a situa-
tion, that: .he knew from : the bey .authority., that_
, except "relief in .some.'forrn ' or other , sboLikt- 1)e
•gre.nted Oicrn,SCVCral of these.ploPiierorip filipers
which now. pay i ;001. a year.:to,:GOrertiment,
had declared .that they cannot. -continite.Aheir
business. lie oshoultl thetclare. mpg') ,either
t hat instead of , an. additional discontit of 41,- los.
-or cent. ati, atfdifiOttal discount . of. 91. per'Cenit:,
skiAd he •grani'ed them. Jiiii.iroii:, Anwndiiii.h4
Ni tl_. rAt•-i•hottld not be agreed to, 11e would
propose tht' they should he ‘ allowed to fix7illeir
own.' price,, and that 41, clause . should be inserted
in the Bill for this purpose. ' •
' /1"-.1.'AilDT' replied," tbitt' as this Bill imposed
upon 'Nei,vspa per Proin ietori..no:iiew grievance; he
'cciiiid.fibt agree to intrOdUcX.,iri;O; if any Clause,
to.grant- them: teiief ;from-griev,iiiices extrinsic]:
fromit. .- '' .•'. .
:Mr. SH EP..t,r7m4. inoted; " That instead of the
words, a Discount of -41,. los. per Cent. be sub-
stituted the. words, a Di,count!Of-81. per Cent."
Mr. 11013,110 L'S E "sal-4111'k if ir Discount- of
41. 10S. per. Cont. was °lily exadily proportioned
to the, ad4trion!il dut.S.:, ..it t:1114 :not be s?udi that
such a Discootlit w Jiiildilie a fiiii:Oroperisa'tion to,fhe
'Newspaper IL'roprietartl:l 'oceanic it is well known,.
that any nevvi,Ptay
,vpo,a,,Corrimoi4ly,.nitrit a 1....
ways raise the priae of it,i-ri the Boyer, tOores,tlia4i.•
iri the exalt ratio-of the Duty, oWingfo,,the ad._ -.
di t i onal - Capi tal..wli iqh ,i t 0?.4-.lc-es*.iiece,Sary fro .ibc,
carrying on of the 'trade orliViatinfaEture'i:,. • -
Mr. ROSE said, that theaDiseoun't iii is not so
exatty proportioned to the,Duty, as not to..gtker.
an allowance for this additional Capital : 4.4 :per .
Cent. would bas,.e been a full, equival,ent. for the
Duty. .

I L Ll 3 /II lat.
..ar••••

Mr. Sit r k KLAN% A mendmentfv,as put, and
negatived without,a,djvision., , , •
,-.:,..,' •
it
Mr. SHERIDAN -said, he- wotild notfiess
this tmitter fiw
Crther ttt present , but he no: 4
notice, that he would wk..- advantage of dig, *l'
cessions matleby. the-Right; Hon. Gentlernap;tfur
bring the subjea for ward,on a fFp r e oceaiidtf."
The Bill was then passed. ----,-

!t-7 "

—... Wita •.._
Mr. 3HERIDI4Y said, he now found that,
the discount allowed - by ,this, WI,- Was -not
,ifpr
any duty imposed by the. Bill, hut for the new
duty on Paper, and therefore., there could- be 'nu!
reason in the Right-Hon. Gerstlnian's ar,goMerifi •
that it wnnld be
.absurd to great by this Bill, -re-.
lier from grievances' not oepioned by it, 'be- •
cause this, the Bill, as originally framed, was
intended to do. _ ...
Mr. ' PIiTT replica, that certainly. this Bill
has' no contieelion with Newspapers, and, if the
'lion.. Gentleman misconceived it, he could not
eomplain,of him for having even departed, from
order, in answering what he had brought irregu.
lill" k.l
y: Pito
.discussion._
• . IRELAND.
i Lord C'ASTLEREAGH brought 'in a Bill for
further continuing she Suspension of the Habeas
.Orpus-Ad in Irelind for a limited time, which
af*- a
.first, and ordered to' be` read a second
( -
time ao.morrow. •, :
4,i.
t ,YP/1.2V" PARIITELL.. said, he wished to
afi•theattention of: the House. for a moment, to
:o
ti Siiibjeet which he had, formerly mentioned, but
tiepeCting which, he had expeaed from its being
tiaken;-up lir large , by an lion. :Gentleman (tdr4-.
ltybiß) much More. qualified for inanaging ..it
Ilan he, could pretend, to be, it Would'hive been
t nnecess'ary for him again to advert-:,tot That
Hon.:. 'Gentleman proposed -some Resolut,ions
a
which %were 'agreed to,- for. grating the isame
Bounties on COrn and other- Provisions imported
illio Ireland, • that are•payablc on their7importa.
lion into thhCountry, ;'• but • the effeet. of these.
most wise kes'olutions would, at_ least_ asio one_
article, : be frustrated, if certain crausea of an,
1:16t. of ' the. 33d of the King, .whick prOhAited,
under very:heavy penalties, the 'landing of` any-
..
cargo, .or part of a .cargo, from a. vessel'eoin-
ing from the . Fast Indies • into Irelansi,,were..
not repealed. . All ships coming from. the East
Indies, are therefore, at present.obligeciao. come
first,, to the Thames, and . Lind their...cargoes,
no. part. of, which can ,reach,lrelanktor two or
three molts after. Now,. it will be of, no ser-
Vice that ad equal Bounty is maile
.i "piy'able on the
importation-of -Rice from the: East IndieS into
Ireland,. `as -into'..tlii3 Ctitii!itry; if these clauses
stand unaltereci.or. unrepez,iled, because' none can
be imported. ;lie did not wi :h to propose. that
the clauses 'should be.repealed any., fa triter than.t,a,.
grant tilt:liberty of':the dirett'importation of
Rice. 13e w4lied thatliVe 110 n, .GenilemaU who
Moved the former Resolutions, would attend . to
this subjed, and 'tistid,olo6
j'alt .rifantenentof -
the business entirely. -,?:1-14,w14)k!d that.lie would
i'(.ll,Aidy in his Bill, such enaeltnerrts as. would
put Ireland, with regard to this rncahs of Teller, a:,
well as others, on the same
,footirig, with=Eng.
land. Some steps , are necessao to be taken, as
it
_would make. a _difference of, three "Or , four
Months, in the time in ..which this relief will
reach Ireland, It.may ,ninkendiffcrenee to that
Country of rectivingrelief when It is in the, Most
argent 'necessity, ori of receiving supply. after
perhaps' an abundant harvest has, rendered, it' no
16nger an objeet of desire. lie. hoped to be ex.
cbscd for trobbling the House,,,but-he thought
tfte subjea of such' importance_ that it-ought not
to run the risk-of being overlookid.- '
Mr. RYDER said; the House was- certainty
,
obliged to the Hon. La ronet, for .hi4isuggestioiis i
and however unworthy of them, the compliments
paid tO himself he -could: not -butacknoW ledge .
The suhjed mentioned by the Hon. Baronet, had
certainly been under consideration, and the best

from the East Indies to _lreland, had been con.
suited on. - It, no doubt, is both right and ne.
cessary, that the Clauses mentioned 'by the Hon.
Baronet should be repealed, so far as to effed
, this object—and something to this effeCt _was
meant to be comprehended in the Bill which he
should bring in. When that Bill is brought in,
.he WilLUes-Wagt14.1.114.-AlgalingllPSALaig auk
2 -
as
Lord radPPCmASsSAgEt.R.E-ir,H-,CL,:01.---eir-1 a".- Bill, for
1---efinfiiiifiertairt-Riiiiei-ity--Vtriand-forone year,
which yia(inaiii.,olt4t, tithei„,,Ad OrdTred to be.
reler a 'se:Chita riint- kolliiierroty.l. ''''''''-• -' ' t
l -Tlotrkisaus, resolVea.fitelf into a Comtpit!eF, to
consiaec certain Ads of .tae Irish Parliament.
Lord CAST LA Itt A G R.-MOVE:tato resolve, "That
it is theopiniothf.this'CorWntittee, that the Du.
ies payable oni-Tolage-.and Stainps in Ireland,
be ' continued for ond-rittiii,vfrom the zsth of
Marsh,' Irgen ." i'. ' ' . • 7 • •
I " ' .
4 'Mr. IMGIT'ELL observed., that some regula-
iotlAbould-be adopted to.equaliie• the weight of
etters allowed to be' franked in Ireland and in
rigtmt-Intrivesetrt-Tohicconfusinri-arises from
rams., extending . to 'lvi!s--zionces in Ireland,
pr
,hireas..they.are- limited to one in England.
, ,Lvid CASTLLIZE4O.II'sIid, ,thAt this would
10
e matter of arrange-Merit in the Bill which would
llow on tit 15 I esafptitni. - ' •
Sir -:7011N- r4givELL- expressed himself 7.
appy to.hear that soine.altoratinris 'were intended
to-be made on this subject,' a< Tr saved him the
. • .4:1
necessity of now troubling thafouse... 1i:. '
The Resolution was. greed, to, anti the Report. -
of the Committee was ordered to be `receiVe&ttar--1.
:' • •
Morrow.
LOYM CA ST Pilt r A,G H-. moV4foilUivt, ailitiiii-7
::- -
a Bill'-=to stottr-tiie, ntikiiiebr I'Vlatiliitltitl4."
(lig iiiiih-g tit` =SPi?iii`.trorn gitit in I tei*titt, 1:44-'
time to be I imi tect.--Les v Fkrah ted .' . ..
1 1;631? tnATTL'Eti EA irtifeiveil: the Order'`
Ole Dir, for,the',4l6d 444114 of tite Ir.iioll4Nit
4ini-Law-.8i11,. ~cllc...4rliiii,,lipOrtiii)iff--414114.
`test to some thinV in thellill,,, which seetifo4_ikir
. dause appiehengicin in theiiiiiii*okSollleloooriik4
men. Anione theseoi;atNiilxi:Ftnall-':ntinitite, 10340
which,,426,iti-k 'l3.4;:llle:Ctlte(ti-Nlar.tial` 0'14214
eomposed::: In pollit-TO-r44; , Oita , thi,.gitt wail
, first brotiglitln,,iti:4lsikno inulittinni4Vere'madi
qn ttieno:sublgt..,,-liliTt :;tile, V.44le:'•ecinchtlt, of 11A.,‘
*lalutinsii--I',oao444fejfie...discration of- the Lorallientenant,:?4.s- Au:ls aftersvatas .suggested, bir
~
s me Geolleinlia,;: this, --in .sonie:•c4ses,.it Might :-..,
- difficna•- ai..proeure- :any -giater- number of
rlittiii4bah-three, and a Clayse-.4tas acciirttingly •.'.
ilitrodpq4into..tite Mll, •-sten'it .was
.-ret*wce,
-141st year. -,.-.ll.tut he .cottlii,.atsiire 'the -Home, -:tliat:...
in .aa .o..ne'ease, had there been a Court-Martial
held consi sing of so few a_.. nurnket,....._ Indeed: • '
. • .. . . - ....
t,ie 20Wer.grapted h):.:tlie- Aft had been un ti ono:: -
1/- eitTased witti;,the qrietst attention and-',
anxiefy .fOr the -'ailincnistratien of. Justice,. mitt.,
41 ministration -.-Of- it .t 60,. in Mercy, -.....The,,.)
ground?? of, accusation have,- uniformlybeeisar
clfefully-. inquired into by. the chiel,oo.verfkar,
- himself,. .before the appointment .of the,Court.
Vlartial, and, their sentences htive-alWayo, been
reviewed dnd:Ompared With the evidence,before .
the warrant, tor_the execution of theAeritenasChan
1 en issued. The' power 'having, 'heal ahtrays
tv •
t us exercised, and sure as he,ar,'Jhat it would
i
alivays i'oexercised, 'he :felt. for'-hii otirn'parf t
easy as 'to points wltjcli seemed to ~;iv e. Anne •
other gentlemen* alarm ; but he should In; happy
to 'Meet theirideas,'and to-,make • that matter ~
regulation which had -always 'and' would 1 • '
a w..; -.. .
be attended .to prhaice. .
.7 , -

; w Al. A.
.74y. LqR. adverted to the,Powe r: •
of infliaing 'TOrtUre granted by the l3lll, r, I.
said, that he intended to move an •Amendnient -to
the ..111.16"abolisli:that power. •-•_
'Lord c AsrkEeSAo.ll' said, -ilat he could •••''
understana•the notice of the'i-lon:Genlti,ern an onli•i'..
tp cptimgy,aptinsinuattotk,4o)nt the . v.e Fprpelkt,%
41reland,. that such had•been the cy.erei!;e of.tho ~.;:
bower granted by titik trpsureoa. He hoped*-nei: '
sucl4.irks'ir.Oktion-,would iatrd into et •AL.r,•,.• •
Couilty_Eas certain)/ no'ne•,Could;lielnarefaise, • -
air vounaless.Wlien th7ficiti.'.entlemariShOTilet- •.
j hiring ft!t'ittatif his :Motion, .: an'trliieli;lrge Iti'i'ort,
% lireh'it ii 'founded; he 'would thWibe hippy. to
a oii,v4teld.r Iti.riomm, -,.
aailoc,ll-Bt..666.,Y,iriaicittpetiCat:id. trille'acier,i,im.e.as..c.,.t,: :
i t
' • I The- &PE AKE R--..'615; the • cOnveirs..AtiOtt viat'...
. ,
irregolar ..as it wasmottipon ther.qudstion. .
I 'Ole. Order was then rk..4lglr_ the. ser,onettad.,‘7-': !
- ingrif the
,13i 11. •
.' .' - "I'. '3i' ' '' ' •••••-P'
be Lord Crii.s.rt. a it 4: kdit itioved,.-4k That, the Bill ?"..
be read a second time'.'• '., ":•,..- ... • .
Mr. M. A.T AY LOP- said; 0,a.; the who knew ,
- him, kneW that he ,was not ;a 41114 i) t•z?orisalce hatges •
•. lightly-hi-that •kroktm•;.l to irifalke ,i,hern . withoutln..
quiryi.rtig- wheuihe *acnor.preparato tat alllistt7;.'
them:: He was !now -ready:to:•estahfislr his ,asser.i•-
tiorii. that
.the Government of: Ireland hod wide as .
use Of the Torture in Otder to-extort eosifessionsia
secrets. He would-ask,- was. not .thi;avowed and
charged ti,rop the Governarem, -in .the Debates of
this very measure I kit not nyowed from the high.'
4t authority, in ,a Speech aliterM in' the Irish:
Parliament, and p' ithlisho with. the greatest our
therrticity, with 'the m-melif its author .annext`V
tO it—=he•was• notrsiire, if it was tot aft/wed dyed-
4i the Reports Of the Committee of the'-louse of
Commons. •• :He. would: prove, that it had :been..?
exercised tinder .:oril• cANIDEN ;.. he betrtg'eck
•:- .
alsO,:cycn -under thc preset: r• 1,611 b LI t in* rirt Tr,
whose ellaratier no man-could'venerate itor,ehigh- •
.1y ;lian...be did. 'The granting a power to do '
.sticlyhing,§; ttiust ever be rtpvirn#nt to all the
,Pk iticj pt 6 -which 11e., bad , ever -,heki: He COD.
Cluded with a• few observations on the little oc•
ell-ion'tliat appeared.' to_ . to exist, for il-,e Inca.
him
sure at.... 40- ._ • ,: •-: -. .
.;', •
... ... . !
' Sir•7oll/11- PA lUVELL ~71id, that he had had,
an opportvaity of• oloSei-ving the eolidud of the -i-
-preseui Chef gqiesnor of I telani 1444ejocercise • ,
'of this powerv..4Ltliat tie.:caulti6tOdtitly. at:
serf, .that .it'has-..beerrexcr;:ised-fry -Irlnv?Kit only
Sit i di !the .stri4est.regara
.:to junks,- but 'evert
with a ... 4legree of mercy -.which by . some o.as:..
tboigtft-'tunircit: - lii'llits '. qpinioki ..a Military,
farce is absolutaiy nicessary. For' Ir4-4rid.ai the
present present moment ; but he thought that if this

were employed tb brink in e 4 nders, they
might be tried with perfed security to the
Country 'by the
.usual Courts b£ 'justice. :He
regretted that he;should differ Upon,
this subje& from .ro....:Many..A.ofhis Cbuntrymen,
but he confessed, that'nhiore particularly after
an Union, which Vas to give Yofingland.iindAre.
land the same Laws, the sane Rights,,:ana
same Privileges, he did not like to find the Peo-
ple of Ireland subiset tolhs•Ntartist kftw., while
the People Of tngland are enjoying all the privi-
leges of Freedom. .had this night bgen
brought in for continuing- ibeSuspension °Eche Ha-
beis 'Corpus in Velluid. ,l'afraps Siriiilar ingLl
sure nnty soon, be` propoiedifor,Grear
If sitishquldrite would abet it,:for he cotAcl.not
be content to see.jreland deprivsd of ;c• much of
the essenceCirilieCAAirtitian-,41111e England is
enjoying all the privileges -of the Stature
Should ,shclf dift itAflegt4ationcycentinue to tbe
rrulde for Ircjed, `where.794l,lf. ilheridentity
whichprocrnise4 toViWuce he-
tifeeit the Frve.LCorrntriesTPl.l4"is and
never has been the condua held towArds.Sc.otiand.

Nyhy.kiippicitiit. be held towards I relard ? ,He
wt t 3 ,that Ireland, should' be identified With
something- clic 'than Ta'x'ation.—
, 111-11tiatiltIniqgkst ito.the/ idle possi-
bility of leaving the Power to be exercised
iathst.aral mannerin,lreland, under the protec-
. tOp pithe Miliiary.,,Aibh lie alloWed.to be still
that by .such a plan
ther.ezWnuld be atirdilieulty, to get ..Witnesses to
speak the truth, or Jurors to decide with justice.
Sir L A CIZEIVE E IPARSONB.-obSebt d, that
in the unfortunate part -ta--which this Bill was in-
tended to apply, it ,bad been alledged that the
Country
,liad ,becti nwq-arily put under Jgattial
Law ; iha Abe Judges could not in safely go
their' etricbifs;analtlfit Juries were afiiid to do
-dtity when called Upon tb deicide. on the
c:arks of; those who were charged, with Rebellion.
#e believed that these were generally 'unfounded,
and in paiticulat casei, exaggerated accounts of
fatis.—He believed,. that in the Province of Con..
naught there, had been tinlY iimeourt Martial for
the last-year,-: He was pot, ..mtre whether there
was atiy Court. Marti the Province of Ulster,
and none liat,,heAnew at An;„in short,
that the whole, ori vaEy nearly the,whole, of the
administration.Oflgalaffairs was confided to the
old, known, andwise.taykkegit24 thc.cpalit!9n and
Statute Laws ; iri other words,., the Civil COnsti-
tittiOnal Authorities of the Land,-as they were in.
Ebgland ; ancl.eVeTv thing was ghat under
authority. If this Was denied, he would isl; those •
fion,-Mentbers who supported this if they
teeolle4ed ksingle instance of the Judges having
ahyteif to go Upon the Circuits, or, being -on
them, of their meeting • any Juries who flit any
difficulty' in -perforiniiig
,their cluty,whenccao&of
45...ibegon came befurtiSrin ? Or didcoupsslit„
for rEeCroWn.eatrilifa' in of any ihiiig of this na-
tfirell-LAAsseition'increedlhere•wii; but there Wai-
no proof that the orlinary Civil Authority in
Ireland was-dint sufficient for 'then conviction and -
punishment
.of guilt, and protection of innocence
da'itiyAleY.; and he must huinbft'insist;. that it
was- on proof,' :and. not assertion; a "Legisla!ure
otisht.lo.64..ituided iu .the raeasures,it adopted :
tfinArought him to the conclusion ,:that When of_
. fenders were broakhi'forivard On. Charges of 'any
kind, they, might as well .be, tried. by the ordi.
nary rules'6f `LAW isboy at'y itigdroirs 'mode to
adopted.under rhis,Mlr,-and indeed much bet-
.
• for the one could be excctirecl without -a Mut.
• nikit, 'WheteiS. the other innst-excite great discon-
•••tent.:•-Llterand,lie believed, WAS now remarkable
for tranquillity—the County in whichlie resided
was particularly so; forte' rtiZw,PetiOe,men whotj
dined at them' ease. and 6 itiroYter, ad their
Ealls-and,Assemblies-, there; and went_ to and fro li
aeallliours in the night, without the -Vast mo_
lestatioh. County of Tipperary had forinerly
been :represented,
_as. living - besti- in a desperate
36. ie,-and nith as tO Cali most for the
rigour of Martial Law, and yet he. kaowlamilies:
who appeared to be perfeftlrat their comfort,
and without any'liplprehenionx‘4liiigkr of danger.
Sucl. he believed to be :the general state of Ire-
. land, fie 'died not Mention this tot -eonvey' any
insinuation. "that what' other Gentle Me- stated
About the dangerous state' of Irelabqvas unfair ;
tbcp :ipoke :tram .the impression'lac h .circuni-
stances made on their minds, rand:Jim state of
their, 'feelings,.:; .311' he. meant I):,Sfty was, that
from,every thing he knew, and f.r.m, all the in.
formation he could collt4,.the conclusions of these
}ion.. Persons a:ere erroneous ; he said this
wit vieirt/rcilitkin4
effell,L.pakt of. which
altberwiscbaZe--..an injurious
toiether th, an ac:
bad already appearedrr :for,
cootrft bf 'he' ate tlegiretted- 'the(
wiUCli came, #pip., P..taW,thirejf—a§,-.3sreeniich-
represented '1 rot `as being, In-VlAle'leady for
, Rebellion, for. whiCh"therolv.is; iiii:foundasion any
where', .01r4s,i4ithe WlOes- of these
rumours, if uneontraclitittd,. might bestriarious to
the Empire. Hewett Id-only Idif, is a coOfirma-
'-titili.t§f heliii6-
=' by tirriilti/Pfal!elVit2aly,',VlA.flit ItiQges in
Ilelaud,*re•gbillg,thOc.Circuita.,, wereass gl
ikßand-i• arid cii'"O''.'tlfte taiK
'tea: concerningthe state. of treia;cid,' to tool,, 614
taiOrbe itieiniousi but
tiiti)r were not innfocent-; On` - contf.4.ty; so
of'Olem %vettcertainly wicked. •.. ••
fir:- 41z-r-PQ NS 01414 Y-expre&ged-gre-at-c.oncern-
and feelinglor'what unhappily passed in Ireland ;
but kile'kotstiim- now4eforg the Hdusewas; not
uP9p„,4ll44,Liit siti
..iyela nti; .bti r trlf isksVit
the best means of
.a
.towa-rTs:,,t, at plartrnis
Majesty's. Dominions, so as. to procure comfort
to the Inhahitants . in future. He was, himself) .
perfeclly.satiSfied that Ireland s;at moment ,
an a stltie.oftrinquillity., FEe meant so far as that
. no reasonable man. could :say there was .inr
ger, nO.irnmediate danger at least. He ,
prohettiLikwever,' aecat,l*.same timt, that Ti l~imd
'Was set to of 'consideable dj.septiK,l4, 114;
pleasure Was indeed likely' to creite.subinission,
'but Was,lll:'ealcuated to allay discontent - 'lt
therefore- eared-to--hints- ort-a-coinprehenaive
view of all circumstances, to be the wisest fefitty-
this Country,could,, atT'tht ti le a(144:2, et* tEas.

L- At: Wettipte tf Irel4nd like the people of-Entlititdry
let theM" lett all the blessings of a getvd GOver:rt:,
• merit -If ' this policy 'welt adoptetlplie shOtild-'
have Ittlipeskthat the affedians of thelitish-periple:
i wOuldibe restored. This was kAitaitiliaiefti*Vit4
4i whkilleitt ery good man wouldaim-a't.'t) This, i;lef
jet:lll67s Itrit : likely Ito be attaine4l -4745. till; '3,
land thetikire it should not have hiss ford t iK
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that
,be. ttiaititte,
the'llon. Member fMt. TAT-Lott) wikiii4tAlfig
to the,Vaistion.before, the Houle on infOttna!riokli
and it was in that view he was desirous of an-
stvering,him, and • not to say any thing -thlt,stias
ipeitottially disresPedtful ;to hinl, or to
.treat 'hi,
!ohseriyations direspeafully ;''and in that' View. of
the Mater he must 'repeat, that, nothilig clotild he
more'unwarranted, than that of the HotkWenlte-
man saying, that stiCht Measure, .were bikerriin
Ireland as he stated, under any authority what-
ever - in that Country ; that if he' meant" ft:4c- '
tacli to any Iriih -Governinent, either dilling
the continuance or since the conclusion of the
last .itebellion, any adoption 'or countenance of
Torttre, or other cruelty, there was no foun-
,dation.whatever for his to dbing=-stich a charge
'was - wholly and absolutely unfounded. He would
not say there were not many unwalfr aritabie and
cruel- aas done 'during thatitebelliedi ; fie Vas'
apprehensive i that many such had token place,.and
that very circumstance afforded 'stick* reasons far
the adoption-of the measure now before the tfouse,
because those very ads of cruelty Were committed
by' individnals for their own proteactin, as is ap.
peared to them, when Government had.not snlE-
dent intans to protect them. These cruelties
arose out of the warfare which,. took place''be-
tween the Rebels and the LOyaVSubjea's of 'His _
M A j qllt. • Many things Isvere-dOrie then *.hielt
coukt not • be justified ;in the abitigl.; but -the
justification -of theni was .put open the,prineipte
'of Self-defence. But as an argument in favoiliOf
:the BilthOw before the House, he'would observe,'
'that from the moment it passed. in, Irelanch.'ihfit
species of individual violence Sub Sided ; but 6o
'part whatever of the blame arising out tif_fht4'.
ads . of 'cruelty was, in the Most distant-tkg4e-
attributahle.to Government; and the systeni'iffiith
was iiinpted.y nil er:this_BilLinixeland had-been-
iaaed upon by, the present Lord Lieutenant, whose
humanity was .as ctinspicuous'as lis courage, by
which the lives and fortunes of individuals, as
swell as the Country itself, were preserved tom
Ideltrudion. This _Bill was therefore- to .pre lien r
those cruel kis from being repcatrd by iitiividu-
als frdtif an dpprehension of theli own Preserva-
.tion -; -and-that they had been so much 'avoided;
•was,ow.ing to the ,poliey,adopted under this
.very
.1:1111-a policy dictated by hutil'anity anctjiis.tiCe;,
for by it Individuals were satisfied that they had
prq;Otion . under - the authority, of Government,
:and therefore there was_r2o necessity for them to
take their own protedion into their own hands
:which they would do;•'. an& which they .could:13;
?driven .to, unless • Gove_ininent were armed 'with'
this kind of authority;
.for tlie Tkehels bald a sys-
tern and regulated
,plan of procedure—it was an
,
-organized Conspiracy, not-only Asltinst.the State
itself, but also egainsi:theperson and property of
,everyindiVidual'bwh4._ adhered to Government
this,Rodticed atl which, no man could justify ;
but 'they sfiauld be attributed to the true cause..—
.He should hardly think it necessary to say much
more on this subjea, after 'What had been said on
it the:other night, 'when it , was so Mich &-
cussed ;. but he could not help observing, that. if
the Civil Power were to be :dime applied to for
the trials of offender's in rebellious pursuits,
there must be a Special Com Mission 'continually
,sitting. in,sotpe parts of Ireland ; and after all,
lot would be very inadequate :co the ;suppression
t" the mischief: In Limerick, he knew that
disturbances had continued for four months • to-
igellieri bat although this might- be the'ease in
'other places, he should not argue from such cir_
cutnstatiFffs . i . for itt lappeared to him. to.be a ,bad
, , -•-• '. - -
courses for a.k.egislature to pursue, to make cPad-
molts from local and individual cases ;,..the busi-
ness of, ;he I,egis_l4tpre was 'large and -general,
and its proceedings should be founded on a COM-
prehensiys view-,of things, and from.a full con-
vittion, . of, the 'true and general interest of the
State.. IA that view:, this ,Aneastire appealed to
him to ,lie:necessary. If Gentlemen
.wanted in.
stances of the 91141:n4400o of, the Atbellion,, lie
would refer them to pl?c,es:in,whic,h,Courts.Mar-
tial were.s,ittog, noc.,pf. Tits 44mty's Force t.
tit of ilie 'kaki; hi tileti• Oivn 'Calif; in .wlllot,
hey proceeded
,to try . those whoa-they called-
ltititor's, thaiis; those VhO .dliFnoit':adhere io
hen/ ;- and Alinkie they- did nol.ohly n cOndenth,-
ut executed. 'al'so i.• • This theiT: did :by 'I
-envying
[.
front their statiaf'i RI thb ritighf;• and' to i Which tliq-
retiirnedagailitieforl:day.:light. I•l6'CivilPO4i'
koa& take' ihere iii'itiihii' into considcrition, nck
otffis'inWeilelbftee'' of the fia 'bo riad; c'Atk'in '
[
hat of a criminal who had taken an oath tO'ber'
PraltWandjherludge litust'• hive told the Jury
hat such evidence. would not do to convi& thed
perused, -because it was the unsupported-evidence
Of ah accomplice; on Which, it:.was:not the prac..-.,
ici.liof Courts* Justice to :convidi i. and' these:,
attempts to enforci.)jusiice.atillgoeure. tcanquilli....-:
y, would..onlyuhdve ' (Nit:ad the livtes, of/kiis
Majesty?s,iloyal Subjeas ; and therefore, .under
this complication devils, it hadbeen.deemed ad-
Visdble.):to4paisithis:.Bill, . not .to -overturn, .but to
rrotth his ic.TVLuniiipal Law: With respell to
the observations which had been .made on 'the.
tranquillity' ofrlreland.xivithis morienti-he had
in, little to say 'at Present; he did state the
orhermikht Altai he:believed,. with a feW excep_m
lions; Ireland,Wat ginerally.tranqua, and that, a. 1
ipixirof:Ltiiial tit akial-i over the)Coantry ; .but-'
this he believed was greatly•owinkto ,the spirit i
infused intollce' lokaltnhabitanti by.thilL,Bill .;, for
that the rebellious spirit which-had annoyed them;>l
could not; in their aliprelignsion; bepucdown•by. J
tiy. other 'eniarts. ~Cotild.any more decided proof
eLgiiien bf.the titilimofth-e measure, than that tin- .'
er it A COll n try Junbeen•restored from Rebellion r
0 TianqUiilityl4f any•Oebtletrian, wanted. an in-
tance of how. unsafe it was to.trust to the ap., ;
pearance of things-ashen they-were trenquilfaiter-
a distabanceiiie :would advise .ahem to look av
3 hiPtataite*.'stare. of tilt tottityt of Wexford-, • NO 1

‘.
• - .
lace it 'oiled** liptipt43" Ili ,b44t1,64 tranquil
tid happy-than 7t lid • qou rit yof • ‘VeftfOrtit and yet
is tu rlya flees. broke : Otit 'I Were ,llViceltirthey verc
east ei:tfittled. -'eve hadr;.seentififyitiqeefieatee;
ithat altholigli, iglitleliar tiviitia illiiryt 1 had: 1416 M re_
Istored in .Ireland, yet that thettilftit*e's- and
the feelinks ' of Telielliaii\Pfiits'-Thei6l remain-
!ed ' the- sjarne,-fór'cifiiP had - 'sworn liliiitred to
,the- GOveilitiiieirt Jlatridl fin' hitaelibfent -to the'
, ,
!Enemy; 4honi. they- would assist whenev.er they
had an" opportunity of-so doing,- and -there was
nothing they were not confident 'of cOunterading
bilir-ifie energy of. the Bill' now before the House.
'Phis. Bill terrified the Rebellious, and encouraged
the Loiy4l. L-VirOO! the House now abandon a
plan 'so salutary,'" put to fright. the tOyal, and
revive the hopes of the Rebellions, . Which it
~4ould clO if it reje6led this Bill.? 'As to the Judges,
it 'had been stated that-they had, gone upon their.
Otilitits; and that JtA•is. had done their duty in
:nany cases—that he
.dict net deny ; he believed
that in many 'cases Juries had done their duty,
and he believed that -in some they might have,
acme beyond it : het if The Judges had 'gone to
seem- places tb which he had already alluded, he
was sure they would have returned to the Lord
Lieutenant androld'him, that if any trials took
took'phn!te for Treitiiii In such placeS, the Prisoners
must either have. been acquitted contrary to evi-
dence, or the Country be thrown into the'utinost .
confusion. Gentlemen on the ether side bad it-
ledged, that nothing 'would.inake them assent to
sucha' harsh I.x.v, but the, absOltite necessity of
it : now upon that . necessity.,:there could be no
doubt whateVer; unleSS 'they tot-ally disagreed
from him on- the faciS in this ease; '•and be did not
comprehend how that could Kitten, for, they were
very plain,and even obi it:Ai ;,ili 'was reddinirtinded
to Administration toisliew aitel, hold out 'to the
People of Trelandi'giioaGevernment ; he hopCd
they woul&haVe rid other ; 'but- the abandoning
the eauk 'Of ThOL4fral; and giving encourage_
mem to the WillelliOut- was no part of a toed
t_ ..... )
GoVernment.:.-, Pie leading objet of a gOod Go-.
veriatient Vras,'SeCurity to those Who were loyal,
ant that was the prihciple ofthis Bill ;-if it went
fti‘rthei thhn"a .sound discretion, ought to diaate, -
then he ,mtist, admit it went too.fir; but he did not •
think so. If it '"Wis' unnecessary, then it was not'
a measure elproteAidn, hut iippresiien ; but if
the GoVe'rnMent of Ireland srotki,- as . he had stated
,ir, and the circumstances
,of .the'Cliuntry were
`such as he hail stated them; and which he trusted'
.he had proved. them to Ire, this would'hea inea-
sure of anil :
• -
:sure proteelion, to the 2LOyai. of that'
Country, and would lie ki rigiirded by. Mein ;.
and it would .operkteoiot, only against 'the
Enemy within, but als6- the Enemy without..
:Nothiti; would appal the. I;:ncmy- within so mach
.as shewing them -that they arc to,be exposed to
:the prompt' igou r and cfrcaual energy of this Bill
and 'this' would -keep them quiet nothing would
so much damp the hopessiftlie Enemy without, as
to let tilein see that- the Dii6ontented- among us
are but fewand feeble: whereas, on the contrary,
nOthint would, encourage both So much as to shew
that we are disunited; and that the discontented
part of us is so considerable that the Ruling Power
'cannot tiubane them., But when it should appear
that Government, supported by 'Parliament, had
both the power and the disposition to silence dis_
icontentrand to put an end to a rebellious spirit,
,that would be death ko the hopes of the Enemies
of the Empire, both w i thin and without—it would
iclisorganize the one, 'Ana disappoint the other.
fie begged pardon for having troubled the House
so long upon this subjekt a second time, hut he
was persuaded that some things which had been
thrown our to-night called for some, at least, of
these observations.

Colonel JAC KSON spoke in support of the
Bill, .as a matter of necessity, on account of the
great progress which the Rebels had made iti pre-
vailing upon atieluded multitude of 'persons to
take the Oaths which they tendered to them. It
was unwise to be too confident of security in such
a situation of things ; as a proof of it,' he in-
stanced the case of the Inhabitants of, that part of
Ireland where the Enemy lanacti : hardly any
body was supposed to have any 'wishes In their
favour, but it was sUrprizing to see how many
hael.,taken the Rebels' Oath, when the matter
tame to be examined.

. Cbionel M AltriN assigned his reasons at some
length for giving his 'Concurrence to the Bill now
efort the' Horrseijatiti Consfidered that . it' *as
ready recommended by the fruits it bore, name.
y,' that •of having --restOred Ireland
.to tranquil_
i
ityi- 14e was pleasant on that part of Mr. TAy-
't.ott/s' Speech which Welk it for granted that the
Torture.had been used' in Ireland under the au-,
hority .bl Governmtit;' Which,. he sAilit,- not only'
a 'reasoning but a reasonable man wtiiild'have rf:-
gaited some' proof- or, ' Wt. i e t 11 c 2 "0 ci t etir; it sn
- rodndlyi- In takitit it vie* ' ofthzt liiiiolet'iti.
!which Lord • Gift fl'wEAL.Lis- haft a ttira,: -7ti Met 'the'
OuthOrity of this Bill, he, pkiek'a haft&dtrAscorei.
liment to. that exnitcd Chaiaeter. '-'He denied'
that ahy Torture -(that was to kty,..that.any.iiiil
itishment was inflifted with. a i.ieik Id iiiaking
' 'ritons confess).- for that wis Tort'tir'eruilder any
uthority-or. ibunienance 'of the O'bieruitlent Of
re(laild';.:whAtever cruelty l'inel''Keil' eiertised;
:Je
wits iliWijffeit •Of the r;tgc• Of individuals, ' W Ho bad.
not the Itemottst coraieBioti k.villi Government.,.
anailt4roae frbin 't sence t.htise individuals 'lead of
ilie-Iti4f4 of inseCtiriry in which they -stood ; 411
whiCti vas put-an end to ,by the Bfll .nciti: befdie:l-
ilterlikift§W. '-' Hating had' "iittit proof of the-gbo
, . tfett of this Bill, and being convinced of its 'rte.
oticitY;' he hoed vol.e in it, f.tvour. - .:
:Afi., GO'f.firri...;-.1-.-I}' expres<cd pleasure at
eAltiinesb nia'ny Gentlemen from Iteland.dclivet:.
his 'tentlrtients' in the. House, and Which they
itt,so Muth- to their advantage. He was, how-
very not.eonvinced -by anv 'thing he had beard,
Of the. 'propriety lof extending- Marrial-Latii-in
irelaml; any mare than Irkeing such Law . as the •
tale Of AOion -iii -dui Coliatry. He praised
urd CoR fi*"..u. t Is ' finr hil cbndu6.l.in Ireland,
flittthought fifs Wlof,tll and' etiergy would keep
Out Country-quiet .kirhout putting it under Mar-
tial =Law, - RS- the Marquis-- of TowNstir fro did
many yr.irs ago' when liewas LOrd Lietteetiatit of
iTergAd;anct likes lid was creilh-fd eold'api Mar.-

t ;Ind declined it, but pittetted tnelisuiei
A milder nattr.e, and-for which he bec=erhe idol
ofthe Petipre of Ireland, and was,. rettembered,
With gfatitude; and affeftip to thus-hoar, by that
brave •Kencroas, with; a, few exceptions;
loyal kopler.- Having-. proceeded some time in..
his .6nlOgium on the charader 76-1 that .Nobler
Marquis,• ht returned to. the question upon the'
present Bill, and obseeved, 'that many of the ar.:'
guments which had been.urged for the Bill, ore.;
rated, in his mind; As: reasons Against iti for_ it
appeared to hirri..to be a tyrannical ; -he ;
called it so, because it introduced into Govern::
ment a rigour that was quite unnecessary; •It unnecessary, because it was al tleadyi and
without any such aid as this Bill gave-
vernnient, in.' the power of thfi Lord lieutecane
to issue Warrants to apprehend those whom•he
suspeeted to be Traitors, and.tb try, or•confin6-
them without trial, at his will. This power
he would have under. the ...Bill for. suspending
the Ad of Habeas Corpus in Ireland; which
was now before, the House. He thought,
therefore, that as there . was no real necessity
for the Bill, that it would not have been per-
sisted in, for it would blast the expeetations
of. the People of Jrtland, who had been L`X_
peCting, and expecting, bUt who had been dis-
appointed mote than once.; and be was glad to
learn that the,Right:Hon.,Gentletnan (Mr. PITT)
who was once the leading Minister of the Crown,
had manifested in the way he h4e, done, his affec-
tion for the great mass of the People of Ireland.•
He wished that the People of Ireland should not,
he disappointed
,by any thing that Was now
doing, or might be hereafter done in Parliamerkt,
but •that they might see that the. Commons of the
United Empire now in Parliament assembled;
wished to do every thing: in their power to serve
theM, and that no sUbtle means, or under-hand'
devices, or unworthy arts, should be made use
of 'to keep them from the enjoyment of what they
had long looked for, and expetted to be accom.
pushed by the Union—that of being.put Von a
footing in • privilegeS and. advantage's with :the
People of England.—He then took notice of .the
!observations of his Hod Friend (Mr. TA1.1...i:4:),
and maintained, that' tlttr order of Lord C6it't,i7
wAt. I:is, to put amend t 6 the System of Terrot,
proVed its exi stenee, as did also certain Publications
sheW; that a 'high Law CharaCter had-sanClibtied
that system. So that there was the approbation.
,Of one' -great Chrader, and
.the Order of Lord
tediscontititid the Systern of Tor-
. ,
.ror, in Irelart, pretty clearly to prove :its hay-
ing'bnce e4isted.—Havin repeated; that, in his
mind, there was no actual fOr thiS
Bill, he should be inclutid to oppose it in every
stage.

lond LONGFIELD 'recited several cases,
in which Magistrates, in the execution of 'their
offices, had been fired' at, and other airt, of atro_
city by the Rebels iii Ireland, frorn which he ap.
prehended the present Blil' to b`e necessary.
This was folio‘,oed by a Sitnilar dect.tration byr
another Hon. Member, whose name we could nut
learn.

• Mr. DAWSOY observed, that it hadbecti,
said, that by thi's Bill the House was calW"Upori
to cure a grievance which did not exist'. He
would not speak at much length upon the
_matter,
but he would deliver 'his sentiments, in as few
words as be was able. He should be Sorry to
apProve of the principle of such a Bill as this.—
He should be sorry to attempt to justify such a
principle. The Bill, therefore,. in his opinion,
could not be justified on its own merits. He was
sure the Noble Lord who brought the Bill for..
ward, hid too much reverence for constitutional
do trine to justify, the Bill upon its own
eiple—;-No, it could not be so justified. What
then was the justification of the Bill ? The state
of Ireland, and that only was the justification
of the measure. If it was necessary in the
present state of Ireland to. .preserve the
tranquillity of that Country, it was to be
justified ; other Wise it
,was a Monster in Po..
licy—He said, that he represented a great and
poliuldus Cbtinty in Ireland,,ind if he was to be
guided by his Own knowledge and observation,
after having iniked and lronvArsed much with his
Constituents, and received froin them a great deal
of important infOrmation, .he should not hesitate
to say, that the Bill was not founded-on any neces-
sity wharever : but he 'Was not tilAt soft of Poii- -
tician, -who would' vote on the means he hid of
being personally 'aclnainied with 'u think, in ut-
ter defiance ofmny- information Whieh the Debates
in that House gave. Mtn. In the 'coarse - of, that
Debate, he had heard many Hon: MenNcrsdechie,
that to their personal-knowledge, Severil parts of
`lreland were in a state 'to render this Bill neces:.'
'saty, and- therefore ho aituuld nut -oppose 'ix, al-
:though' he hitnself did nbt know of any emer,ncy
:that lequired He should, 'therefore, vote for olke.
;Bill, but, he was' happy tb-obserie,. that there
'was a Vriabability Of t-otneparts Of it being alter-
4clin The 06thinittee ; Such, for:instance, as that
:of providint-that tione 'of the Parties who were
to sit in Judgment, tin the Coutes-Martial to 'be
'aitiltorizedby thli Bill; shotild be'tinder the age
.
'of=ty-tilty.one. was certainly a protiiSion
whi•ch atiatogy 'alP the afraiii Of life-
that wee to be ikeided' byr 'the Law,
required that the Jurors should be twenty-one
'years a! age.;,,lFven'in 'the arse bf a'lrian being
".convicted .of a crime,' Judgment-upon him .must
the' arrested,.: if it should -.appear. that one of
'his Jury was under age; and if this was the
Ikalc.of Law in,casbs where' the life of the indi-
',vidual- was forfeited. by. .conviaion, it ought
to • be applied' to.a..CourtJ/lartial, in order that.
that Cow t should be made is nearly analogous
to Civil Jurisprudence as the,nature of the thing
Would 'admit. He hoped, _therefore, that due
care would 'be taken of this point in the Commit.
tee ; it was a defe& in the present mucle of con.
stituting Courts 11/41artial, which ought
.to be re-
medied. ..1-lavipg said this, and .begged it, tol)e
understood, that
_he had no personal knoWledge
Of any. circumstances which.made this Bill neces-
s,try, but that he gave Gentle Men credit for sin.
cerity, Who ambled; Won their knowledge, that
it Was necessary, he should not oppose this Bill.
Mr. ALEXANDEkatid, that thiConspiracy