The Sun.
London, England, 1839-12-03 00:00:00

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

" Poles be united, and of all things eschew English party
politics !"

SIR,—In your paper of this evening, you very justly
surmise that Russia has her agents in this country,
busied i❑ attempts to injure the Polish cause. I was at
the Exeter Hall meeting on the 29th of the just-expired
month, and witnessed such a riot as I neve: hope to
witness again. It was entirely created through a Pole
called lieoiowski, backed, mark you, by a host of
Chartists who came with him, and acknowledged him
as their leader.

The great body of the Poles in this county have long
denounced Beniowski as a Russian spy. In accent and
physiognomy he is a Polish Jew. He boasts in public,
as he boasted on this occasion, that he is a Chartist ! I
Now, riddle me the meaning of the following most
strange, and, I think, indicative assertion, which blun-
dered forth from the lips of a Chartist baker, who, with
other Chartists, stormed our hustings at Exeter Hall,
on the late Anniversary of the Polish Revolution :
" I," exclaimed this self sufficient baker, " and those
who act with me, have placed our lives in Major Be-
niowskes hands ; we should not have done this, if we
had not implicit confidence in his honour," &c. Again,
I say, Sir, what is the hidden, or rather transparent,
meaning of this Chartist, where, speaking for a body of
Chartists, he sa3s that they, in common with himself;
have put their lives in Major Beniowski's hands? Is
some a la Newport outbreak in process of conspiration
Some meaning must titaeli to this singular escapade—
let the Government sae to it ; for no other meaning,
but that of contemplated disturbances, can such an
assertion, if it mean anything, bear.
I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
A TRUE FRIEND OF POLISH UNION.
Temple, Dec. 2, 1839.

EARL RODEN.—We are happy to be enabled
to announce, on the best authority, the complete reco-
very of this distinguished Nobleman from the effects of
the late accident his Lordship met with.

WESTMINSTER SCHOOL.—We have authority
to state that the first representation of the " Eunuehus"
of Terence is postponed from Wednesday the 4th, to
Monday the 9th, instant. The second and third per-
formances will take place on the usual nights, viz., the
11th and 16th instant.

It is rumoured that our worthy and highly re-
spected townsman, Dr. Musgrave, Lord Bishop of
Hereford, is shortly to be united to a member of the
noble house of Cavendish.—Cambridge Advertiser.
Mr. Charles Russell, late M.P. for Reading, has
Leen appointed Cilairman of the Great Western Rail-
way Board of Direction, in the room of Mr. Sims,
deceased.

A report is spreading throughout Europe that
the year 1840 is to be marked by great catastrophes.
We find in the Aldan Gazette that in Turkey the
authorities of Roumelia had written to their Govern-
ment that the peasantry of the province had suspended
all their agricultural labours in consequence of the terror
spread among them by a prophecy announcing some
universal disaster in the year 1840.—Commerce.

There is not the slightest foundation for the ru-
moured indisposition of the Earl of Durham, his Lord-
ship being in the possession of far better health at the
present time than for some months past.
THE CHARTISTS.—FALSE ALARAL—Last
week a rumour was raised that Hereford was about
to be attacked by the Chartists, and dreams of ruin
and ravage were everywhere repeated. This silly re-
port arose from the following ludicrous causes :—A
performer at the Circus, wishing to have as good a house
as he could get at his benefit, beaded his bills by, " Have
all your shops shut by six o'clock ; and at the bottom,
By order of the management." The clown to the
same establishment also issued his bill for his benefit,
headed," Under the especial command of Colonel Hope
and General Expectation." Some silly people, reading
dGe
these sentences in large words on the bills, without
stopping to inquire into the truth of their surmises, went
round the town spreading the most alarming reports,
all of which fortunately were without any foundation,—.
Hereford Journal.
We cannot help expressing our conviction that
the unequivocal manner in which the Bishop of St.
David's has expressed himself, and the absolute prohi-
bition he has issued, to having any English clergymen
permitted to do duty in his diocese, who are not equally
perfect in the Welsh language as in the English, is bet-
ter calculated to assuage the continual feeling of ill
usage and injustice which has been so often and so
justly excited by the barefaced disregard of Welsh
qualification, where English interest was concerned,
than any act that any Welsh Bishop has been
accessory to since the days of the beloved and
regretted Bishop Burgess, whose whole soul was
identified with the true' Interests of the people
he had adopted ; and we
the present Bishop of St. rnay
David's re
and he will prosper ; and we giv trul)m, d
every credit for
daring to act contrary to tim
Pettyy
ain
interests of English pr
connections, and trust that as he has —stemadayy
knows his duty, but owns it—that he will
lved he not only
dare to enforce
what he has had the good principle to
command in
compliance with the laws both human and divine.
We know that the Bishop's letter has been
hailed with
heartfelt pleasure, both in and out of I •
s cese.—Sieurian. own Die-

MARRI

GE OF THE QUEEN.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

SlR,—Your Paper of the 26th of November contained
a letter, signed " One of the Multitude," and relating
to the Religion of the future Consort of our youthful
Queen, the Head of the supposed Apostolical Church
of England. You have endeavoured to answer the
questions raised by your anonymous Correspondent,
giving it as your opinion, that, by conforming with the
usages, &c., of the Established Church, the Prince will
become entitled to all the privileges of that Church. I
doubt the correctness of your explanation ; and allow
me to refer you to an article upon the subject of Bap-
tism, which appeared in a highly Conservative Journal
of this metropolitan city, of Thursday last, Nov. 28,
the Kentish Observer. That article was intended as a
guide to the clergy of the diocese, and stated most dis-
tinctly, that the rubrics of the Prayer Book, forbid in-
terment and the reading the Church Burial Service for
persons who had not been baptized. Now, Sir, as the
Church of England allows of no other baptism being
legitimate than one by a legitimate (i. e. an Episcopal)
Minister, it is evident that, according to the Canter-
bury doctrine above-mentioned, Prince Albert must re-
ceive Episcopal Baptism to entitle him hereafter to
Episcopal burial in the Royal Vault at Windsor, or
even in any of the commonest churchyards. Such
being the acknowledged doctrine of the Church of Eng-
land, it may seem extraordinary that, out of eighty-two
Privy Councillors, not one should have adverted to it.
Even if the Lay- Councillors were in ignorance thereof,
the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Bishop of Lon-
don must have known otherwise ; and the silence of
these two Prelates can be accounted for only
by supposing it to be another item of Church of
England doctrine, that, the duty of a minister of
Christ is to merge in the servility expected from a
Courtier, whenever the two happen to clash.
However absurd the Canterbury doctrine may seem
to be, it is the established doctrine of the National
Church, and is as much a portion of the national reli-
gion, as is the rite of baptism itself, or, any thing else
enjoined by the Church Articles, or the Church Canons.
Your Correspondent, then, is quite right in noticing
this matter ; and endeavouring thereby to call the at-
tention to it of the Bishops and others, who alone have
the power to amend it. The present generation is
much too well instructed to be satisfied with half expla-
nations, and frowns by men in authority ; as was the
case in times past. The High Commission Court of
former days exists no longer ; and, instead of brow-
beating an opponent, his objections must be answered.
I have the honour to remain, Mr. Editor, your most
obedient servant,
ANOTHER OF THE MULTITUDE.
P S.—lf none but episcopally baptized persons are
to be buried according to the rites, &c., of the Esta-
blished Church, what is to become of the bodies of
Queen Adelaide and the two Royal Duchesses, should
they happen to die in England ? In religion there can-
not be two different rules, cne for royalty and another
for commonalty. The Clergy must deal out the same
restrictions to the Royal Family as they do to their
inferiors.

Canterbury, Dec. 1, 1889.

TO THE MARQUIS OF LANS-

DONNE, K G., &c.

EXETER, Nov. 26, 1839.

My Lord,—ln order to fulfil my promise of correct-
ing what I concluded to be a mis-statement (however
unintentionally made by me) of a passage in the " Ap-
pendix to Mr. Symons's Foreign Report," I have sought
and obtained a copy of the " Reports from Assistant
Hand-loom Weavers' Commissioners," and have thus
had access to the passage it!elf, my reference to which,
in a note to my charge, was made the subject of a not
very gentle insinuation in your Lordship's letter of the
19th.

Concluding that your Lordship's representation of
that passage was, both in words and in spirit, perfectly
correct, and feeling that, if it were so, your insinuation,
on the very natural supposition that if I had had the
original under my eye, would be perfectly justifiable, I
dealt with it in my answer accordingly.
My astonishment on finding the real state of the
case is such as perhaps your Lordship would not readily
conceive. The only remark, however, which I permit
myself to make on it, is this :—lf, instead of affirming,
as your Lordship affirmed in your letter of the 19th,
that Mr. Sy mons had " expressly disclaimed the lan-
guage quoted" by me, and had stated that it " pro-
ceeded from a person entirely unknown to him," you
bad rather said that " the Board of Trade having
communicated to him (after his report was in type)
some documents which had proceeded from an engineer
and manufacturer in Belgium, Mr. Grenville Withers
who states that his practical duties and personal
acquaintance with many of the feeding men of the coun-
try enabled him to speak his opinion on manufacturing
questions with assurance," and that the words quoted--
viz., " On the Continent a principle of economy is the
only motive for sobriety," were part of his answer to
one of the " queries used in the inquiry in Belgium ;"
and if you had added, "That Mr. Symons thereupon,
without vouching in any degree for the accuracy of the
facts detailed by this gentleman, who was personally
unknown to him, had yet thought it his duty to append
them to his report, as they appear to have been collated
with care," your Lordship would not only have said
what is true, but would have avoided insinuating what is
untrue. _ _

1 have the honour to be, my Lord, your Lordship's
most obedient servant,

H. EXETER.

My Lord—l have had.the honour of receiving your
Lordship's letter of the 25th.
Mine of yesterday will have testified my sentiments
on discovering, by inspection of the appendix to Mr.
Symons's report, how little ground your Lordship had
for saying that " that gentleman had expressly dis-
claimed the language quoted by me." On that subject
I will say no more, than that, while I have no doubt
that your Lordship's representation was ma tie without the
intention of deceiving, I have a right to cofdplain of your
having founded on your own erroneous statement an un-
warranted and unwarrantable insinuation tainst me,—
that having Mr. Symons's express disclaimer of the pas-
sage, which I cited, before my eyes, I yet, endeavoured
to clothe it with his authority.
On the sentence in your Lordship's speech, which

. .
I cited in my letter of the 20th, my opinion is as
strong as ever ; rather, I should say, it is strengthened
by a re-perusal of the whole passage, together with its
quotation from Virgil about iEolus. I must, in all
frankness, say, as a further reason for citing and re-
marking on this sentence as I have done, that in con-
junction with the words quoted in my charge, it appears
to me to show that how great soever may be your Lord-
ship's qualification for the usual duties of your high
office, you are not one whom the friends Ak.true reli-
gion can see without alarm placed at tl 'Lead of a
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Committee of Privy Council for dispensi -he funds
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granted by Parliament for the purposes of pu iie edu-
cation.
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One admission I have sincere satisfaction In making
to your Lordship, and I thank you for giving me an
opportunity of making it—that, as regards your Lord-
ship's speaking of your letter of February having been
under discussion in the debate in July, your Lordship is
right, and I was in error. It not only was included in
the general description of " the various documents pre-
sented by her Majesty's command," 'but was even ex-
pressly referred to (though not discussed) by myself in
connection with " the establishment of a normal school,
including the provisions for employing in it teachers of
eery shade of party-coloured religion," as in your
Lordship's opinion expressed in that letter, " the most
pressing and important of the object," of the Committee.
The part of your Lordship's speech which I misappre-
hended, is p. 20 to p. 22.

_ .
While, however, I make this admission in the amplest
manner, I again protest against your Lordship's position,
that I must not apply to plain words the only meaning
they can fairly bear, because that meaning may be at
variance with something written by the same party
many months before.
I have the honour to be, my Lord, your Lordship's
most obedient servant, H. EXETER.
The Marquis of Lansdowne, K.G., &c.