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est support. It was a measure which entitled the Minister
to the respect and gratitude of the country. There was no
doubt of the excellence of the measure ; the only question was,
whether there could not have been a better one. The Right
Hon. Baronet had, in his speech, stated that for the augmenta-
tion of the small livings the sum of 235,0001. was required,
The Right Honourable Baronet was here in error. It was
true that the Commissioners stated that 235,000/. would be re-
quired for the augmentation of small livings, including pri-
vate as well as public livings, but with private livings the
public had nothing to do. To augment the small public
livings in the proportions stated by the Right Honourable
Baronet, would require but 145,1951. Then look at the
Deans and Chapters. Why one of the Deans, it appeared,
from the Commissioners' reports, had not less than 4,500/. a
year, and each of his canons 2,0001., while the Archbishops
and Bishops enjoyed their 7,000/., their 10,000/., their 20,000/.,-
and their 50,0004 a-year. Was it not very rational, then, that
the people should, when they were told of the poverty, the dis-
tresses of the lower clergy, and when similitudes were drawn
between the condition of the clergy and that of servants in
high families, was it not very natural for the people to consider
that there were other resources whence the distress of the
lower orders of the clergy should kg, relieved without their
being called upon for the means ?2!"-( Hear.) Was it not an
acknowledged principle that the labourer was worthy of his
hire, that there should he some correspondence between the
duties discharged, and the amount a remuneration' for those
duties.—( Hear, bear, hear.) Was it in accordance with this
principle, however, that while one clergyman received but
1007. a-year for attending to a parish with a population of
5,041), another clergyman should be paid 5,000/. a-year for
attending to a population of but 100 ?—( Hear, bear, hear. )
He was free to confess that he had not collie prepared with
documents, or to bring forward individual instances, to illus-
trate his positions; but having gone so far he was tempted
to say this much—that looking at the statements made upon
official authority, he saw this very remarkable fact, that the
men who had the largest parishes, and the smallest popu-
lation, also invariably had with them one or two other pa-
rishes.—( Hear, hear.) There was this fact which it oc-
curred to him to remark upon :---Taking the Parish of St.
Paul as a centre, and making a circle of eight miles round,
they had a population fur which, including all places of re-
ligious worship—the synagogues and others—there was but
accommodation for religious worship for 500,000 ; but let
them look to the vast numbers without the means of obtaining
admission to places of religious worship. There was the
same want of accommodation for thousands of persons in every
manufacturing town. It was the same in Norwich, in Man-
chester, and in all directions throughout the country. What
happened in his more immediate neighbourhood would justify
what he was going to state. He had heard it stated at a
public meeting in Spitalfielde, with which he was well ac-
quainted, there were not less than 70,000 persons who had
not the means of religious instruction. He had conceived
that statement to bo an exaggeration, and therefore lie took
the best means of ascertaining what was exactly the fact.
There was in an area of half a mike long and,a quarter of a
mile broad but one Chapel, which could aecommodote but 700
persons ; but there were a Chapel and a Church about three
tunes as large ; and this was all the accommodation for the
population of the district. Now, in that little spot there were
0,000 persons, who, if they had the desire for it, had not the
Cpl • •er ,v 'ity of attending public worshfp. In the next parish
that there were 10,000 children without the means of re-
ceiving ral:gions education. There were 10,000 of the rising
population in that parish without the means of receiving a moral
and religious instruction.—( Ilear.) He had heard a great deal
about the comparative merits of the voluntary principle and the
-stem of the Establishment. An important question he ad-
Mined it to be ; hitt it sunk in his mind into insignificance
eomoare:l with the question, should, then, their fellow-subjects
remain utterly destitute of all religious instruction whatever?
--( Hear. 7 What signified it which system was the better
if . either the one nor the other accomplished what ought to
Iv the object of both? It seeitezl to him that to discuss
w: ;ch was the best was idle ; what they ought to do was to
strive who could do the most, and not cavil wnether one had
(lone more than the ether. Provided only that the essential
trOie of Christianity were taught, he, for one, did not care—
he cemparatively cared not at all—from whom the instruction
ea-I,e. whether from tire Quaker, the Methodist, or the Mora-
,oian.--( Hear, hear.) lie did not consider that he was an
. cent.; to the t'hurch is saying this. lestead, then, of indulg-
irea i.; id:e dissensions, let Churchmen say to Dissenters, arid
Dien-eiters say to Churchmen, that " here, at least, is au open
el.l fur us—here we cannot jostle against each other—may
yL.o boPforturiate in your codeavours ;" while you may both
ear. -6 May I be fortunate in mine, and both successf'al
in
e :itieatiner the wilderness." Both could be usefully em-
ideyed in this endeavour.—( Hear.) He felt the importance
of this subject, and with this feeling on his mind, he said,
that if the Right Hon., Gentleman came forward and would
pledge himself by a resolution to the effect, that whatever
could be secured out of this or any other surplus of ti.e
Church would be applied to this purpose, then the Right
lion. Baronet should have his vote.—( Hear.) Bat he was
afraid that there was but little chance of this, because it was
remarkable that amongst all the facts relied upon by the
Right lion. Baronet, this did not appear to be one of them ;
and when he (Mr. Buxton) took the liberty last year of
broadly piitting forward this position, it was opposed by the
Right Hon. Baronet. He then used as an argument, that
whatever could be saved out of the Church-rates ought to be
applied to this purpose.—(Cheers from both sides of the
House.) He perceived that the Right Hon the Member for
the University of Cambridge cheered at that; but then he
recollected the ungracious reception which the Right Hon.
Gentleman had given to him last year.—(Cheers.) Did the
Right Hon. Gentleman recollect the tone of horror with
which he spoke of his proposition ?—(Cheers.) He was
quite sure the Right Hon. Gentleman spoke of it as if he felt
the utmost astonishment that any man connected with the
Church of England could have adopted the course which he
then recommended, and which the Right Hon. Gentleman
assured them would tend to the destruction of the Church.—
( Cheers.) The Right Hon. Baronet, when he (Mr Buxton)
touched upon the incomes of the Bishops, used these ex-
pressions—" It is said, further, that there is to be a reduction
to the amount of 5,000/. in the income of the Archbishop of
Canterbury, for the purpose of raising the incomes of one
hundred curates 50/. each. I should be glad if that could be
done; but in what principle would it end ? In the utter con-
fiscation of Church property." But he was still more severely
treated by the Hon. Member for the University of Ox-
ford. He could not find the words, though be-bad looked for
them ; but the expressions used had arrested his attention,
because it was the first and last time that he could remember
that the Hon. Member had used such harsh expressions to-
wards him. The Hon. Member was pleased to say of him,
that in making such a proposition "he had used the very words
of Lord Harry Vane."---( Hear, hear.) He was not very san-
guine, then, of the support of the Hon. Members opposite ;
bat this he said, with all the disposition that he had to get rid
of an obnoxious tax, still he would give his vote, provided he
had a pledge from the Hon. Members opposite that they would
obtain for him the measure that he wanted when they came
into power—(Cheers from the Opposition Members)—that
they would take the necessary measures to secure his object--
that they would sweep away all sinecures from the Church—
that they would reduce all extravagant livings—that they would
make all needful reforms—and that, wherever it seemed neces-
sary, they would have Christianity inculcated amongst the
destitute and distressed population.—( Hear, hear.) And if
they did this, then he,for his part would say, that no vote on
earth could be given with greater satisfaction than in support
of the proposition of the Right Hon. Baronet.—( Hear, hear.)
It was good, he thought, to put an end to the tax ; it was
good to put an end to the vexation that it occasioned ; it
was good to put an end to the contention between Church-
men and Dissenters ; and it was very good to come to a
measure which, in his mind, would preserve and continue the
fabric. —( Cheers. )
Mr. GOULBURN differed from the measure before them,
because it was merely a measure to relieve persons from the
eseils sustained by the present state of the law with respect to
the levy of Church-rates ; and because it involved other and
far greater questions. It involved in it this question—whe-
ther they were decided on maintaining upon a firm basis the
Eetablished Church of this country—whether they intend to
maintain in their position the prelacy and dignitarieaa the
Established Church, both as respected the other branches of
the Church and as respected the other branches of the com-
munity—and, lastly, whether they should make a change in
the administration of one species of property, and thus give an
example (and he contended for it), an unprecedented exam-
ple, which threatened with danger every other species of pro-
perty, and which could not be overlooked nor regarded but
with alarm. Before he proceeded further, he wished to allude
to what fell on the previous evening from the Chancellor of the
.Exchequer, when he alluded to the position in which the Este-
leiished Church stood. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had ,
Laid it down as a principle, that the parishioners in the several
pa.-itthes were not bound to contribute to the repairs of the
fabric of the Church ; the Right Honourable Gentleman, too,
had eteted, that if they agreed in reducing the amount re-
quired .for such a purpose, they only exercised a constitutional
privilege which the law allowed to them. In that he differed
from the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer. This
was not his view only, which he admitted would be of little
value, but he was confirmed in that opinion by the most emi-
nent men who had held legal offices in this country from the
earliest period. He held that it was incumbent upon the
landowners of every parish in the country to' contribute to a
!mod for the necessary maintenance of the Church. In put-
tieg forward such on opinion he stood upon no private docu-
ment, but relied upon a Report laid upon the table of that
Howse. He referred to the Report upon the Ecclesiastical
Courts. Those by whom that Report was drawn up had
gone fully into the question of Church-rates. It was stated
Iry the gentlemen composing that Commission, that it was the
dins of churchwardens to see that the body of the Church was
put in proper repair, and to have supplied things necessary for
the Divine service. They stated, too, that the law im-
posed spoil the parishioners to provide the sums necessary
for such expenses. This law was laid down by no
legal authority. The names signec to the Report
we're those of Lord Tenterden, Lord Wynford, Sir Nicholas
Tindel, Doctor Lushington, and the Right Hon. Member for
K hiccudbright.—( Hear, hear.) He did not deny, that there
was an evil in the present mode by which Church-rates were
levic —( Hear, hear.) He knew that some proceedings had
taken piece which reflected disgrace upon olio party, and
whichn he toost owinwere not very creditable to their oppo-
moue.. This haft occurred, be knew, in some places; but
n when persons talked of the evils of Church-rat-es, lie
would not :44 it be assumed, as the Chancellor of the Exche-
e oar bad doue, that the resistance to Church-rates was tini-
;ereal—he certainly would not assume that the payment of
Church-rates was so odious as had been asserted. He
knew, that the evil existed, and particularly in towns ; but
;still lie took it that the number of parishes altogether
w; one resistance was offered did not exceed three or four
hee,ci.-cd 3 and when it was remembered that there were

10,100 parishes altogether, many of which had not com-
plained at all, and in others that they were strongly
anxious to retain the present system, he did not think that
the evil prevailed to such an extent as to require a meet/
sure of the character of that before the House.—( Hear.)
Still he was ready to concur in any reasonable proposition
which should allay such disturbance, but he said that those
ho made such a disturbance were the weaker party. The
real evil of the country was this—that a large portion of the
population was without a provision for religious instruction.—
( Hear.) Under the negligent treatment of Parliament, vil-
leges had grown into towns, and towns had become cities—
the population too had grown ap with an alarming force du-
ring a period of great national prosperity. They had pro-
vided for the defence of the population ; they had provided the
population with a better police—they had provided the popula-
tion with a due administration of the law, by giving them tri-
bunals adequate to the extended population and, the concerns
to be entrusted to them; but they had chiefly neglected that
which was their great and paramount duty, which was to give
them religious instruction ; and that ought to have been done
by planting amongst them the Ministers of the Church of
England to instruct them in the duty they owed to their God
and their country.—(Loud cheering.) Greatly had this
duty been neglected—( Hear) —and be had to thank the
Dissenters—he had, too, to thank Mr. Wesley—for the in-
struction they had conveyed to a great portion of the
people. Their zeal had kindled emulation in the breasts of
the clergymen of the Church of England, and made them sen-
sible of what they ought to do, and called forth exertions
which, though coming late, had yet not been without effect.
—( Hear.) But they must meet manfully the coming evil.
They must provide the means of giving pastors to the people
who would teach them their duty as Christians, and therefore,
to fulfil their duties as citizens.—( Hear.) No healing measure
could be adopted with respect to Church-rates, nor as regarded
the colic ction of Tithes. These were all subordinate consi-
derations to the great principle. What he wished was to pro-
vide the best possible means. for affording instruction to the
destitute classes of their countrymen.—( Hear.) Their wants
in this respect were adverted to in the Report of the Ecclesi-
cal Commissioners. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequr had referred to certain parishes that
had resisted Church-rates, and he stated those parishes to be
Sheffield, Manchester, and Applethorp. He would be content
with referring to Manchester, and he would see how far it sup-
ported his argument. It appeared that there was in Manches-
ter a population of 271,000 souls; it was admitted that of
these only 45,000 had Church accommodation, thus leaving
upwards of 200,000 no means of access to places of worship
according to the form of the Church of England. He knew
that the Hon. Member for Leeds (Mr. Brines) would tell
him that no more were willing to go to Church than the
Churches could well hold. That argument much surprised
him, more especially corning from where it did. He (Mr.
Goulburn) was sure that there was naturally an inclination
in the minds of men to attend places of religious instruction ;
and he would ask what must be the situation of these 200,000
persons in Manchester if they were to remain without reli-
gious instruction ? There were eighteen clergymen in Man-
chester, receiving altogether 2,700/. per annum. Could any
man maintain that if he wished really to establish peace in the
country, if he wished to get rid of these dissensions respect-
ing Church-rates, that his first object ought not to be to
convey religious instruction into every community of the
country, and to r.4.ke care that the voice of religious instruc-
tion, through the ministers of the Established Church, should
be accessible to all. The Chancellor of the Exchequer said that
this mansure would give an increased revenue of 250,000/
If he could acquire this sum jastly, he ought to appropriate it
to supplying the religious wants of not less than three millions
of the poor destitute population. The Hon. Member for
Weymouth had asked him why he opposed a proposition for
more equally dividing the revenues of the Church, if he were
zealous to provide for the smaller livings ? The Hon. Mena-
i her ( Mr. F. Buxton) said that they ought to keep reducing
the incomes of I'..e Bishops till every individual member of the
IChurch was adecpiately provided for. He would answer, thet
if he were the adrocats. of a Church Establishment, of which
i EPscopecy aas cue of the principles, he could not adopt the
principle of the lion. Gentleman without destroying episco-
, pacy itself ; breause, if divided, the whole income of the
Church would not be adequate to maintain the clergy respec-
' tably. IL. knew not how this fund was likely to be derived
I from the funds of the Church. He came to another point,
which was the node is %%Lich the Chancellor of the Excite-
' quer professed his intention' of applyieg the property of the
Church to the relief of the country from Churela-rates. He
objected to seeing the whole property of the Church placed in
• the hands of a Commission. It would entirely change the
character of the prelates and cligni.arics of the Church. It
was said by the Noble Lord ( Howick) that it would be an im-
-1 inense convenience to the Bishops to be divested of secular
concerns, and it would leave them more time for the perform-
! ance of their sacred duties. The Noble Lord forgot that
there acre an Archbishop end two Bishops on this Commission,
who would have to attend to the secular affairs, not of one dio-
eesc, but of every diocese in the kingdom ; and he should wish
the Noble Lord to tell him how these prelates could attend
to their sacred duties ?—( Hear, hear, hear.) But there
were other consequences of this change, which was pro
posed to be effected f6r the purpose of depriving the prc-
lates of the Church of their lauded property, and making
Ithem annuitants on this fuild.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon.
Gentleman had stated that there was a strong feeling against
a money payment to support a Church Establishment' from
which the person making the payment dissented. The Bishops
at present had their own landed property, and received this
rent from their land, and had the sympathy of all other
landed proprietors. Place them in the situation of annui-
tants, and they would be deprived of the sympathies of the
landlords. The argument that applied to Church-rates, would
equ lily apply to rent. There was a great and important dig-
, Unction between the Act of 1794, for the better regulation of
crown lands, and the present measure. In the first place that
measure received the consent and concurrence of the Crown.
Had the present measure received full consent and concur-
rence on the part of the prelates of the Church ?—( Cheers. )
The precedent entirely failed. There were no distinction of
a more important nature ; the value of the Crown lands was
augmented for the benefit of the Crown. Was the improved
value of these lands to go to the Church ? But there was
another point to which he begged to call the attention of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer. He would ask, was there a
power given by the measure of 1794 to the lessees to purchase
at a fixed rate the perpetuity ?—( Cheers.) It was felt that this
was an independent income, not merely for the personal enjoy-
ment of the monarch for the time, but for the sustentation of
his successors ; and that it was not just, or right, or safe, to
deprive him of the perpetuity, so that the rent might always
bear a relative proportion to the value of the property. This
was sound policy and perfect justice ; but with respect to the
Church, they held their property for the purpose of maintain-
ing the religious instruction of the country, and not only for
the immediate enjoyment of those in office, but for the ad-
vantage of their successors, and that it might be applicable
when a larger income was supplied if the increase of the po-
pulation required it. And if they cut off 250,0001. in the re-
lief of the taxation of the country, they would- cut off all means
of future increase. It was possible amongst a liberal and
generous peaple, like the people of this country, to raise money
for the building of churches, but to do so required considerable
exertion from time to time. Though, however, they might build
churches by such means, he thought it not at all likeljs -that they
would be able to raise the regular fund necessary to secure
their repair. If they carried the proposed measure, they
would lay the first step towards the disassociation of the State.
—( Hear, hear.) It was a measure which would entail, not
only on the Church but on the State, the greatest possible
evil. In the words of one who spoke on this subject more
than two hundred years ago—of one who had enlarged on
value of a religious establishment, and on the advantages to
be derived from maintaining a national Church, he would im-
plore the House, as the individual he was alluding to had im-
plored those whom he was addressing, that they would set an
example to the world of how highly they valued and how
steadfastly they would maintain that union between the
Church and the State which had supported us and our fore-
fathers in peace, in tranquillity, in prosperity, and in honour,
for centuries that were passed, in spite of all the machinations
of our adversaries, and that we should not do that ourselves,
which, with all their power and all their machinations, our
enemies never could effect.—( Cheers.)
Dr. LUSHINGTON admitted that Church-rates had
existed for centuries past ; but they ought to consider what
they originally were, and what had been their consequences
from time to time. Formerly they were a tax, not in respect
of land only, but on all the property the individual possessed.
There were still one or two places in which they were assessed,
not merely on real property, but on the stock in trade—on
goods and chattels. They had the same origin as mortuaries, ,
which in some parts of the country now existed. In the reign
of William 111. the contest had its commencement, but the
main body continued to pay the tax. Since that period the
Dissenters had increased with astonishing rapidity : they had
increases: in numbers, in respectability, in intelligence, in
education. Their Ministers were now able to compete with
those of any Church in the world.—( Hear, hear.) What
was the consequence ? Let them contemplate the difficul-
ties which had arisen. First came the question whether the
vestries bad the right to refuse the rate altogether ; and this
was followed by many others of a vexatious description, and
most fruitful In matter of contention. Many who belonged
to the Church objected to the expenses gone to on account of
the new churches, and joined the Dissenters in their efforts
to get rid of the rate. They had their meetings of vestries,
with the Clergyman in the chair, and one party arranged on
one side, and the other party on the other side ; violence of
language ensued, the passions became excited, and the whole
scene was one of agitation, confusion, and exasperation.—
(Hear, hear.) That was not the end of it. Suppose the rate
to be made, if a man refused and were compelled to pay it, he
was proclaimed a martyr, and received the honours of martyr-
dom from the whole town.—( Hear, hear.) Such Was the
present state of affairs, and would any tell him that it did not
require a remedy, and a prompt one ? Or would any man
tell him that the Church itself was safe amidst this con-
flict? By the common law of the land not a single shilling
could be borrowed on .the account of the Church-rates.
How would honourable gentlemen opposite get rid of the
evil? What remedy would they propose? Would they
give the power to justices of the peace in petty sessions or
to churchwardens to impose the rates; and did they imagine
that they could see ry a measure having that operation ? Or
would they saddle the arnoent on the Consolidated Fund—
would they have the State to take on itself the 250,0001. ?
Teat was the substance of the measure proposed by Earl
Spencer. He ( Dr. Lushington) was of opinion, and he told
h-s Noble Friend so, that he never would succeed in carrying
the adoption of that proposition, and he would tell the House
why 1 e thought it impossible. The effect of it would have
been to violate the religious scruples of two millions of his
Mej sty's subjects.—( Hear, hear.) It might be asked, why
should they entertain religious scruples on the subject ? He
would reply to such a question by saying, that he never uu- •

dertook to decide on any man's religious scruples. On all
matters of religion a man must decide for himself—no
other man had a right to decide for him. According to his
principles the scruple was unfounded. He went much fur-
ther it was no violation of his conscience not merely to
contribute towards an Established Church, but to any other
Christian sect in a Christian state. He felt, however, that
he had no right to impose his opinions on another. If they
had passed the measure, charging the Church-rates on the
Consolidated Fund, they would have had petitions from year
to' year against the new system ; they would only have
smothered the flame; there would have been the same dissa-
tisfaction, and they would have the same course to tread over
again. He differed from the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite
as to the propriety of the Right Reverend Prelate's time being
taken up by the management of this revenue in which they
had only a limited and temporary interest. He deprecated
their being made the stewards for others. He came now to
consider a question which was well worthy of the attention
of the friends of the Church ; namely, the balance of evil
and good which, considering the whole case of the Church
at the present moment, might be effected by appropriating
in the way now proposed the surplus which they believed
might be brought into existence by the scheme of manage-
ment proposed by the Right Honourable the Chancellor
of the Exchequer. In considering this question, and in
taking under notice the statements of the Right Hon.
Baronet opposite, let them not shut their eyes to the
past, whilst they looked to the future. Passing under re-
view the events which bad passed within his own know-
ledge during the last thirty years, he was bound to state his
belief that if these funds were not applied in the way proposed,
the evils now complained of would remain in existence, and
the balance be turned against the best interests of tlis Church.
He (Dr. Lushington) never knew an instance in which a
Church, which was not the Church of the majority of the peo-
ple, was not eventually worsted in the contests to which it gave
rise. He recollected the " No Popery" cry—that brutish cry,
as an Hon. Friend denominated it, and which was urged un
by those very men who in their hearts were in favour of eman-
cipation. The Church was then made the ground on which
to oppose the views and wishes of the majority of the people,
and what had it gained by it ?—( Hear, hear.) The Church
of England ought to be a national Church, it ought to strive
to gather around it the hearts and respect of the people;
the fact, however, was too notorious that it had too long
lived in the smiles of the rich and landed gentry, whilst
it had been daily losing ground amongst the middle classes
of society. Whilst it retained the nobility and the land in its
ranks it was satisfied ; let it take care that even these did
not drop off from it by degrees.—(Hear, hear.) Years ago,
Dissenters were rarely met with in the upper ranks of society;
to be a Dissenter was considered a disqualification in almost
every calling and walk of life ; ,now, let Hon. Members look
around, and see the number and respectability of those who
conscientiously dissented from the doctrines of the Church.
He was of opinion, as he before said, that the Church stood by
the will of the majority—when the majority was in its favour
it reigned paramount, but as the minority who were against it
began to increase in number, it must begin to give way to
their wishes—(so we understood the Hon. and Learned
Member; considerable confusion, however, prevailed around
the table and behind the Speaker's Chair, amid cries of " Or-
der, order," " Ba, ba.") The Church of England was like a
besieged city ; whilst its garrison was stanch and strong, it
might defy the enemy, but eventually, as the number of its
assailants increased. and the courage and unanimity (so we
understood) of its defenders began to flag, it must be sub-
verted.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He repeated the opinion,
that unless the abuses of the Church were remedied, it must
be undermined and fall. It could not with security, for any
great length of time, place itself in opposition to the wishes
and opinions of the great majority of the intellectual inhabi-
tants of the country.—( Hear, hear.) The Church of Eng-
land would stand best with the country, by divesting itself of
all those matters which placed it in an adverse position to the
people. He rejoiced in the Tithe Commutation Aet—( Hear,
hear)--it would prove of essential service to the Church, by
enabling its members to stand aloof from unseemly contro-
versies on one side or the other; enjoying their just rights
and large incomes, and performing their religious duties to
their flocks. To this the members of the Church would do
well to confine themselves, and avoid meddling in matters to
which their duties did not call them, and which could not
promote their interests or respectability. ( Hear, hear.)
Particulorly he would deprecate i.,flammatory harangues by
Prelates at visitations—( Hear, hear)—and the disgraceful
indecorum with which this very subject was me: .tinned else-
where--( Loud cheers)—as calculated, above all things, not
to conciliate the people of this country in their favour, but to
call down their scorn for the ill-advised leaders of a species of
warfare—for such he must call it—in which the objects, of
Christianity and the principles of Christianity were cast aside
Sir W. FousT r, Mr. BROTHERTON, and one or two other
Members here rose. There was a general cry for Mr. Brother-
ton, however, and a general rush towards the door, in the
midst of which the Chairman reported progress, and the
House resumed.

Mr. HUME moved for a return of the number of parishes
in which debts had been contracted, specifying the amounts,
the nature of the objects for which they were contracted, and
the fund, whether Church-rates or Poor-rates.

The motion was understood to be agreed to, and the House
adjourned at a quarter past twelve.

LLOYD'S SHIPPING-(THIS DAY.

DEAL, MARCH 13.—Wind N. E., moderate and clear.—
Arrived the Coronet, Pretious, from the South Seas ; Carri,
bean, Irving, from the Mauritius; James M'Queen, M4Call
from St. Kitt's.

PORTSMOUTH, MARCH 13. —Wind N. E., hazy.—Arrived
Maria, —, from London, for the Mauritius.

DOVER, MARCH 13 —Arrived off port the Alfred, Jameson,
from Singapore.
BRISTOL, MARCH 13.—Arrived the Lynx, Cockrell, Cadiz.
GLOSTER, MARCH 13.—Arrived the Francis, Heloise, from
Nantes.

FALMOUTH, MARCH 12.—Wind N. E. to E. N. E.. fine.
Arrived the Nightingale (packet) from Lisbon—sailed the 2d
inst. ; Elizabeth, Cummings, from Lisbon.
CORK, MARCH ll.—Arrived the Geo. Canning, Timothy,
from St. Domingo.

CLYDE, MARCH 11.—Arrived the Scipb. Campbell, from
Demerara; Atlas, Murray, from Palermo.
ST. MICHAEL'S. MARCH I.—lt blowing a gale from S. E.,
several vessels are off the anchorage—among them are sup-
posed to be the Adventure, Alert, Fancy, Meuse, and Fairy
Queen.

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at 10 minutes past Three o' Clock.