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EVENING EDITION.

with reference to summary jurisdictions before a Bill of
this sort was passed, the mats ri,d o,ject of which was
to regulate proceedings before Justices of the Peace.
The greatest argument urged in favour of the Bill was,
that the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tam-
worth had ten years ago introduced a Bill into the
House, forsooth, but which he (Mr. Estcourt) believed
did not proceed further than one stage.—( Hear, hear.)
It might be very important, there should be some provision
with reference to summary jurisdiction, but he did not
think it was right to introduce at so late a period of the
Session a Bill authorising the trial of felonious offences
in any other way than by trial by jury. He thought it was
an endeavour, by o side wind, to abolish trial by jury in
certain cases, and he protested against proceeding wi,b the
Bill in such a thin House.

Mr. TURNER thought the thinness of the House was
one reason why they should proceed with the Bill, be.
cause the fewer the number present the more business was
lone. He hoped they would at once proceed with this
Bill, which would bring cheap and speedy justice home to
the door of every man.
After a few observations from Lord GRANVILLE
SOMERSET and Mr. TATTON EGERTON,
The House went into Committee.
Clauses 1,3, 5, and 6, were agreed to with a few
verb;il amendments.

Clauses 2 and 4 were postponed.
Clause 7 was postponed.
On clause 8 bring proposed,
Mr. J. PAL 11 ER moved that all informations should
be reduced to writing.
Mr. HAWES objected to the proposition as it would
give rise to technical objections and increase litigation.
Mr. Wakley, Mr. Clay, Lord G. Somerset, and Mr.
Miles supported the proposition of the Hon. Member for
Berkshire.

Mr. PRY M E supported the proposition of the lion,
Member for Berkshire.

Mr. WAKLE Y said that what he wished was that Ma-
gistrates should take down in writing what was the cause
of complaint, so as to be enabled to produce such docu-
ment fur his own justification should he be called upon to
do io.

Mr. HA WES asked, would the Hon. Member for Fins-
bury object to the introduction of words enacting that no
information shall be quashed for informality.
Mr. WA K L E Y— Certainly not.
Mr. ESTCOURT thought the information to be taken
in writing should 1:e in the nature of memorandum for the
information of the Magistrates.
Mr. AG LIONB Y said that there was a difference be-
tween the Hon. Members for Berkshire and for Oxford,
and the Hon Member for Finsbury. The Hon. Member
for Finsbury wished it should be taken for the justification
of the Magistrates, and if so, it would be in the nature of
a formal document, liable to be quashed for irregularity;
and if it were in the nature of a memorandum merely for
the information of the Magistrates, he did not think he
ought to be compelled to produce it. It appeared to be
the object of this Bill to distinguish two classes of offences,
for which the party may be summoned, such summons
being granted on information, not on oath, and which
summons the party might refuse to obey; and another
class of more serious offences, information against which
must be laid on oath, and on which information the Magis-
tratcs were to issue a warrant. He gave no opinion on
this sul'jt'ct, but he thought it should be decided what
course should be pursued before the Committee divided.
Mr. WA KLEY said that none but a barrister could
have felt any difficulty on this subject. They were in the
habit of looking out for perplexities, and their aid was much
more useful out of the House than in it. He could not
conceive, looking at the matter in a common-sense point of
view, how any difficulty could arise. He did not wish the
information to be technically a formal one, because he did
not wish to make work for the barristers who had too much
work already. What he desired was that Magistrates should
not grant summonses improperly,and that the subject should
be properly protected. He merely wished that the Magis.
trate should take down what would be sufficient for his
purpose, and that in the event of any inquiry tak ng place,
he should be able to produce it as his justification. He
had no desire that it should be encumbered with techni-
calities, but that it should merely be sufficient to show that
the Magistrates had not improperly discharged their duty.
He was glad the Noble Lord did not object to the propo-
sition, which he was convinced would work well.
Mr. G ISBORNE did not think the difficulty could be
got over so easily, and that some clause would be necessary
to introduce regularity.

Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET thought the chute
should be altered to as to produce uniformity of practico.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought all informa-
tions ought to be taken in writing as a justification to the
Nligistrates and a protection to the accused. He thought
all objections might be obviated by introducing a clause,
enacting that no objections should be taken, nor any infor-
mation vitiated on account of informality, and he would
undertake to introduce such a clause on the bringing up
the Report.
Mr. HALVES thought the proposition of the Attorney.
General would be a great improvement to the Bill.
Mr. AGLIONBY wished to know, as the Attorney.
General was one of the introducers of the Bill, how it was
that the clause had not been introduced into the Bill
originally ?

After a few observations from Mr. WA KLE Y,
The proviso was agreed to and added to the clause. Se-
veral verbal amendments were made.
The clause, as amended, after some desultory conver-
sation, was ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Clauses 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13, were agreed to with ver-
bal amendments.

Clause 14 was agreed to with a few verbal amendments.
Clauses 15 and 16 were then agreed to, after a short
conversation, and the introduction of one or two verbal
amendments.

Clauses 17 and 18 were agreed to.
On clause 19 being proposed,
Sir EARDLEY WILNIOT thought that this clause
would hardly merit the case to which he had alluded of the
Sheriff of Warwick having to bring prisoners through a part
of the county of Worcester to Birmingham for trial. He
would proposs the addition of certain words to the clause
which would, he thought, put this matter out of all doubt.
After a few words from Mr. Goulburn and from the
Attorney and Solicitor-Generals, the clause, as amended,
%las agreed to.
Clause 20 was agreed to.
Clauses 21, 22, and 23 were postponed.
Clause 24 was agreed to with a few verbal amend-
ments.

The House then resumed ; the Chairman reported pro-
gress, and obtained leave to sit again to-morrow, the
Committee on the Poor•law Commissioners Continuance
Bill being postponed to Saturday.
An HoN. MINIBILK said that he understood the Factories
Bill was appointed for that day.
Mr. FOX MA ULF: said that he had so many clauses
to add to that Bill that it would be utterly impossible to
proceed with it on that day.
On the motion for the second reading of the New South
Wales Bill,
Mr. WAK LE Y said it would be most convenient to
Hon. Members if the Noble Lord at the head of the Home
Department would state what measures it was his inten-
tion to go on with, and those that he did not. He did not
believe that it would be in the power of the Government
to carry through half the measures that had been brought
forward. He hoped that on Monday next the Noble Lord
would be enabled to state what Bills he should go on with,
and what lie intended to abandon.
The Bill was then read a second time.
UNLAWFUL OATHS.
The Unlawful Oaths (Ireland) Bill was read a second
time, and ordered to be committed.
TIMBER SHIPS.
The Timber Ships' Bill went through Committee, and
the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow.
ASSESSED TAXES COMPOSITION.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
brought up the Report on the Assessed Taxes Com-
position Bill, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third
time to-morrow.

SLAVE TRADE (PORTUGAL) BILL.
The Report on this Bill was received and the Bill or.
dered to be read a third time on Monday.
EXCISE LICENSES.
The Report of the Committee on Excise Licenses (Sale
of Spirit Licenses) was received, and leave given to bring
in a Bill.

ADMIRALTY COURT.
The Report of the Committee on the Admiralty Court
(advance' of mgrier)was received.
CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND) BILL.
The second reading of the Constabulary Force (Ire-
land) Bill waft, at the suggestion of Mr. Goulburn, post-
poned till tomorrow.
The Highway (No. 2.) Bill was read a second time,
and o:dered to he committed on Saturday.
Lord NIORPETH obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
make further provisions relating to the Police in the dis-
trict of Dublin Metropolis.
Mr. PIGOTT obtained leave to bring in Bills for the
better prevention and punishment of assaults in Ireland :
for the better prevention of the Salo of Spirits by unli-
censed persons in Ireland : for the better pre.
serration of sheep, and the more speedy detection of
sheep stealers in Ireland. And a Bill to amend an Act
passed in the third and fourth years of the reign of his
late Majesty King William the Fourth, intituled, "An
Act for consolidating and amending the Laws relative to
Jurors and Juries in Ireland," and another Act passed for
amending said Act, in the fourth and firth years of his
said late Majesty's reign.
The Bills were then severally brought in, read a first,
and ordered to be read a second time.
BANK OF IRELAND.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER post-
poned the motion on the subject of the Bank of Ireland,
which stood for Monday until Wednesday, in consequence
of the Postage Bill coming on on Monday.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of,
and the House adjourned at One o'Clock.

HO USECT""IP"----F LORDS, Juzr 18.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack
at Five o'Clock.
A Message from the Commons brought up the City
Police Improvement Bill and some other Bills.
The Marquis of Bute, Lord Ashburton, Lord S. agrave,
Earl Stanhope, and other Noble Lords presented petitions
in favour of a penny postage.
The Soap Duties Aet was read a second time.
Lord LYND HURS T presented a petition signed by
upwards of 800 bankers, merchants, and traders of Glasgow,
complaining of the Russian blockade in the Black Sea, by
which their important trade with Circassia, in particular,
was completely cut off, and praying the House to take such
measures on the subject as might be necessary.
Earl STANHOPE presented a petition, signed by
seventy-two British subjects, late of Melleraie, in France,
but now of Mount Melleraie, in Ireland, complaining of
having been "dragged out ot their domicile, evicted out of
their property, incarcerated, and transported," and praying
for the production of the documents, and for the adoption of
measure s to obtain compensation for indemnity and damages.
The Noble Earl wished to know whether there would be
any objection to the production of the documents the pe-
titioners prayed for.
Lord MELBOURNE said he believed that the peti-