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perjury.
the surrogate. By so doing he committedwitihed the
His object now was to do justice. He
jury to believe thst he stole his father'swill;
that he burned it ; that he forged a fresh
loari,,,,,gijinenrd.ußiwijaevarigi genuine. He swore to that fact before
tenants—and that, " practically," he cheated the
defendants of £12,000. He would also admit that
ohnee
also; thfeartgehde
leases—forged
f,hargeddeetdheof names gift ;
of that
e
he had " robbed" his father of £lO,OOO in cash, and
that he had cheated his family, and now wished to
exactlys
u reh ee
"cheated"get the r)r property t
my 0
tbhaecrk.
of
shares, but he froudulentl
kept the money. (A laugh.)
Baron Ciaanntll—What is the difference between
ys Heo
! some e
disposedhlNla acl ri non
efotAthseru end
that and cheating her out of them ? (A laugh.).
Mr.Bovill - T s that the
WitneFs—l admit there is only a difference in
ocfhmemajyrtr.e.
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have
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done originally.
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The proceedings in this were resumed at the
Chelmsford Assizes yesterday.
case
After Mr. Roupell had been examinedo on Thurs-
day he was taken back to Londns,o in charge of two
of the warders of Pentonville prin
exhibit any appearance of feeling at the painfulpo-
sition in which he was placed, but answered
question that was put to him with the greatest every
pus-
Bible coolness and deliberation. He was brought
down to Chelmsford again this morning, when his
further examination was proci-eded with.
Mr. Roupell said, iu answer to questions put by
Mr. Lush—l cannot, tell whit became of the 0-ig.l
nal drafts of the leases of this property after I had
copied them and made the alterations in them, but
I believe that I destroyed them. When fair copies
had been made of the leases I took them to Mr.
Whitaker to be engrossed, and authorised him to
raise as much money as he could upon the property,
and I understood that he applied to several gentle-
men with that object, and among them to a Mr.
Longman, and I think the sum of £6,000 was spe-
ciall y mentioned to be obtained from him.
Baron Channell interposed, and expressed his
opinion that it was quite unnecessary to go into
those details. The fraud and forgery had been posi-
tively spoken to, and it really appeared to him
unnecessary to examine the witness as to the
particulars.
Mr. Roupell then proceeded to state that he sub-
sequently executed a lease to the present defendants
of the Essex property that was now in dispute, and
that the transaction took place on the 26th of
January, 1856, and he said he afterwards forged
fictitious leases as from one of the defendants, and
he induced John Truman to attest the signature of
that gentleman, by telling him that he wished him
to attest his own signature. The witness then ex-
plained the proceeding he resorted to in order to
deceive the witness Truman, and he said that he
mixed several nocuments together and wrote his
name to one of the false documents.
Baron Channell wished to know how the witness
induced Truman to sign four documents when he
must have known that he was only required to sign
two leases.
Mr. Roupell said that Truman placed great con-
fidence in him, and he was no lawyer, and might
not have known that he was signing more instru-
ments than were necessary. This was all the ex-
planation he could give. He deceived him by mix-
ing the documents altogether, and placing a piece
of blotting paper over the names of the persons who
purported to be the real parties to the deeds.
Baron Channell—This is your explanation ?
Mr. Roupell—lt is.
He was then further questioned at very great
length with regard to the transactions that cook place
between himself and Mr. Whitaker relative to the
raising of money upon the forged deeds, but it will
not be necessary to go into the details, which were
very complicated, and appeared to have little or
nothing to do with the real question at issue.
Mr. Roupell then stated that before Mr. Longman
would advance any money he insisted upon having
a valuation of the estate, and he employed Mr.
Foster, of Pall-mall, to go over the property for that
purpose, and he accompanied him, and informed
him of the particulars, in accordance with the false
statement as to the rent and the term of the lease,
and upon this false statement he made a valuation,
and Mr. Longman advanced £6,000. He subse-
quently, however, called in the money, and was paid
off; and down to the time when his father died, on
the 12th of September, 1856, he had not been able
to raise sufficient money upon the estate to pay off
the amounts he required to relieve himself of his
embarrassments. His father was ailing for about a
fortnight before he died, but he went to his busi-
ness in Cross-street as usual, and at the time of his
death witness was negotiating with Mr. Whitaker
for a lease, but the arrangement came to nothing,
and the present defendants ultimately advanced him
£12,000 upon mortgage of the property in question.
After some further evidence Mr. Roupell said that
he had burned a great many documents connected
with these transactions on the night before he left
England, and he also stated tnat Mr. Truman, whose
name appeared as the attesting witness to some of
the documents, was the superintendent of the
brickfield upon the Roupell-park estate.
Mr. Bovill having again objected to the reception
of some of the evidence,
Baron Channel' said he thought the evidence was
admissible upon the !ground that the witness had
admitted himself to have committed a very wicked
crime, and if he was to be believed, the counsel for
the plaintiff was justified in proving everything he
could to show that he was speaking the truth.
Mr. Roupell then said that when be found him-
self hopelessly involved at the commencement of the
year 1862, he considered what was best to be done,
and resolved upon making a communication to Mr.
Whitaker, and he did so a few days before he left
England, in March, 1862. His father died in Cross-
street, and at the time he died witness was not
aware that he had made a codicil to his will a few
days before.
Mr. Bovill objected to any evidence being given
in relation to the will. The plaintiff did not claim
under any will, bat under a deed of gift, and they
had nothing to do with the will, or whether it was
genuine or not.
Sergeant Shee submitted that it was necessary to
show how it happened that the witness obtained
the entire control over his father's property after his
death.
The court, after some technical discussion, decided
that the evidence as to the will was admissible.
Mr. Roupell was accordingly examined with re-
ference to the forged will, and he repeated the evi-
dence he gave on the former trial. He said that he
knew nothing about the codicil until a few days
before his father's death, when he wished him to
draw up another codicil. His father said that as
the property at Roupell• park was liable to litigation
and required a great deal of improvement, it would
be better to leave the property to witness subject to
annuities to his mother and other members of the
family, At this time he saw the will of 1850, and
the codicil that was made on the 10th of August,
but he did not read it. He said he advised
his father not to make any alteration in the
will, and nothing was done. At this time
he expected his father would die, but did not
expect his death would occur so soon. He was in-
formed of his father's death at Brixton on the
morning of the 12th Sept., 1856, and he and his
mother went to Cross-street immediately, and his
ness went into his father's bedroom alone.
mother was in the room below. He exatnicliv the
rust
escritoire and took out the genuine will and
(the
it into his pocket. The codicil was annexe Will
it at
this time. He afterwards prepared a freds
one that has been so often alluded to aen
dwas vested
the whole of the property of the deceasw b which
apointed
in Mrs. Roupell, and the witnessed
a thew ill in a
jointexecutor with her).
writing-desk and carried it Ist
tuphtle-we With him for se
will until a week
veral years. He did not read
a.
The writing-desk
after it came into his possessito
the will some eor-
was a small one, and he conodantly carried it about
with him. It contained beaa
The genuine
respondence of immediate interest.
night e-
march, 1862, when will remained in his po.sseselon until the b
By" he
fore he left irri of other papers.
Englandbe
burned it with a num the
le estate was left to his
war
presentplaintiff, and genuine will the and this con-
brother Richard,
He explained that
thtehei solation he had previously
firmed him in freshe
will.
formed to forge a
John Muggeridge
, one of
PPosed witness ot e forged will, came upon
the su
rasa who was in the habit of collecting
the document was thus,—mt,
ge was an ola
rent for his
father, and he went to him, and gave him £5 to buy
Mourning with, and he signed
a receipt, and he said
that he than forged his signature. Muggeridge was
very old, 84; and he thought he was not likely to
live long, and in point of fact he died shortly after-
wards. The Witness
gave these details with the
most perfect sang-froid,
the slightest
shame or regret at having committed
such flagrant sets, Re wrote a portion of the forged
will witpha gia.
pen, and his father's name he wrote
which he had mended himself. Witness
attendediliwaii the_funeral of his father, and the forged
will
read aiterwards at As in-house. He sub-
s( quently took the will to his father's proctors,
Messrs. suggested that,
his mother
Ring and Co., and they
should also prove under the will,
but at h;,' 1
in rf quest site wrote a letter to Messrs
R,/
, which she expressed her unwillingness
to do so, His mother knew very little of his
father's affairs. Witness made a rough draft of a
letter to Messrs. Ring, and his sister Sarah drew
it up. It was to the affect that his mother felt her-
part in business
self incompetent incompetent to take any
the utmost reliance.
actions, and wished everything to be left to her son
William, in whom she placed
By the genuine will the property of his father was
devised pretty equally between the different mem-
bers of the family, and witness was described as
"My son, called William Roupell." The same de-
scription was given of all the other children except
Richard. After his father's death witness, in the
eharactiar of executer, assumed the entire control
(Ma' the prepatrLY7 k' Yetmg Mug-

Mr. Bovill—And you committed perjury, I sup-
pose, with the same object P
Mr. Roupell (coolly)—Yes.
In answer to further questions,
Mr. Roupell said that since he had been confined
in Pentonville Prison he had occasionally been in
communication with Messrs. Linklater, the solici-
tors to the plaintiff, and he had also seen the latter
occasionally.
Mr. Bovill then addressed Mr. Roupell, and, in ari
indignant tone, said, "You may go back to the pi .e,_,
you came from—l have nothing more to say to you."
Mr. Roupell then left the court hastily, aeaom.
panied by the warders of the gaol.
Mr. JOl.l ' lir. Truman deposed that he was for-
merly in the service of Mc. V. . Roupell as superin-
tendent of the brickfield and roads upon the Rou-
pell-park estate. He was acquainted with the late
Mr. Richard Roupell, but did not know his signa-
ture. The name of John William Truman as attest-
ing witness to the deed of gift was iu his hand-
writing, but Mr. Richard Roupell was not present,
and the signature Richard Palmer Roupell was not
his handwriting. William Roupell was present,
and he believed he was attesting his signature, or he
should not have signed his own name to the deed.
He believed that the deed was also signed by Mr.
Dove as attesting witness. The witness then went
on to say that he afterwards attested one of the
fraudulent leases relating to the Essex property,
and he said that in this case he believed at the time
that he was merely attesting the signature of Mr.
W. Roupell. The witness was then shown the
forged will, and he expressed an opinion that the
body of it was written by William Roupell, but he
said he was unable to give any opinion as to the
signature Richard Palmer Roupell. He said he was
aware William Roupeil always carried a gold pen
about with him, and he had seen him sign his name
with this pen, and the signature "William Roupeli"
that appeared upon the forged will was, in his opi-
nion, written with that pen. He said he was aware
that Mr. Roupell frequently carried a writing desk
about with him, and witness had occasionally carried
it to him in his carriage. Witness had been an
officer in the same regiment of volunteers of which
William Roupell was the major, and he frequently
saw him sign his name, and he was well acquainted
with his signature. He remembered the time when
Mr. Roupell left England. He went to see him at
Aspin-house the day before he left, and upon going
to the room where he was he appeared angry at
being disturbed, and showed temper, and witness
observed a smell as of burning paper, and he after-
wards saw a quantity of paper ashes in the fire-
grate.
Cross-examined—He was acquainted with Mr.
Roupell from the year 1852. The brickworks were
carried on in witness's name, and he was sorry to
say he permitted Mr. Roupell to use his name. The
business was Mr. Roupell's, but it was carried on
in witness's name.
By the Court—Mr. Roupell was in Parliament
at this time.
Cross-examination continued—Witness was to be
paid £3llO a-year, and he was to receive commission
besides. Witness was a shoemaker before he went
into the service of Mr. Roupell. The name of
Truman and Co. was still up at the works at Brix-
ton. He could not recollect whether the name of
Truman and Co. was up at the biickworks before
Mr. Roupell went into Parliament. Witness was
held up to the public as the owner of the brick-
works down to the period when Mr. Roupell
absconded.—The witness was cross-examined at
considerable length in reference to the circum-
stances under which he attested the different deeds,
and he said that he remembered seeing Mr. W.
Roupell sign the instruments, and he was certain
of the fact from seeing his own name as the at-
testing witness. He thought that he was attesting
the signature of Mr. Roupell to leases of houses,
and he signed the deeds at once without making
any inquiry. He had, of course, great confidence
in Mr. Roupell, who was at that time considered a
man of high position and importance. When he
signed his name to the deeds he observed that
there was something
but writtenhe could not sa over the playcwhate
felt
eit
he signed his name,
was. Mr. Roupell turned over the deeds very
quickly, and appeared to be anxlidousHtououbotualidn hist
the place where
he signature
whose
ahsausdpweerditiiluygas he could.
it was that of
was over
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Witness to Mr. Hawkins —I have seen you there
though. (Roars of laughter.)
The witness, in further cross-examination, said he
did not remember seeing the signature of the old
man, Richard Palmer Roupell, upon the deed when
to be in the
he signed it, and he. was inclined to think that it
llNViirt.ne ss had
Covinton, never
th e
ulitrihleliarmemßeonaubpeerlel.d
was not, but be believed that signature
stated that the signature to this deed was not his
handwriting,
hancl.writinofb.
solicitor, calling upon him in April, 1862,and
ing him a deed and asking about
the signature, but
be was very much contused at the time, in
conse-
quence of his having just heard that MR
ir. Roupell had
absconded, and he told him he could not give him an
answer at that time, but h
look at the deed, and he would call upon him and
or not. He ay whether it was his signa-
turethat he believed th t have told Mr. Covinton
e signature was his, but he de-
clined at that time to say positively whether it was
Mr. Roupell asquite certain that he never saw old
execute a deed of any description, and
that he never attested any deed for him.
Joseph Dove, the second attesting witness to the
deed of gift,
tively that was then examined, and he swore posi-
tively
Roupell, he never attested any deed for the old
oupell, and he said that when he put his sig-
nature to the
deed
in question, he did so at the re-
quest of William Roupell, and he said that the wit-
ness Truman signed it at the same time.
Tais witness was also cross-examined at conside-
rable length. He said he had known old Roupell
since the year 1850. He managed a farm for him,
and he used to sign his name in witness's book, but
he never saw him sign a receipt. He generally
used to sign his initials in the book, "R• P. B. .
After some further evidence the trial was egeein
adjourned.
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