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and Captain Gordon, Lord Stormont, and Mr. Pringle op-
posed it.
Mr. YOUNG conceived that the Hon. Member for Ros-
common might be considered a moderate man in politics ; he
ought to be replaced in the Committee by a Member also of
moderate principles, and not by any undeviating political par-
tisan. In his opinion the Hon. Member for Lancashire was
eminently qualified for the duties of a Member of the Corn.
mittee ; and he should therefore move, as an amendment to the
original motion, that Mr. Patrick Maxwell Stewart be ap-
pointed a Member of the Committee.
Mr. R. STEUART supported the original motion.
Sir T. FREMANTLE contended that the Members of the
Committee should be selected with care from those Hon,
Members who well understood the subject at issue. He was
averse to the substitution of any one for the Hon. Member for
Roscommon.

Mr. HORSMAN had proposed to the Hon. Member for
Buckingham to select one of two names ; but that the Hon.
Member had replied, " No ; propose your man, and then I
will state my objections to him."

Mr. O'CONNE L L observed that when the lion. Member
for Tynemouth termed the Hon. Member for Roscommon a
moderate man in politics, he did not seem to be aware that
the latter was prepared to vote for the ballot, universal suf- '
frage, and short Parliaments ; and that he was also a re-
pealer.—( A laugh.)
Mr. It 0 BIN SON supported the original motion.
Mr. SC ARL ETT was sorry to hear that the politics of the
Hon. Member for Roscommon were so decided. Whoever had
the honour and pleasure of knowing him in that House must be
aware that no man could have more delicate notions of honour
and impartiality.
Sir GEORGE CLERK observed, that the matter to be
inquired into by the Committee was of a difficult and intricate
nature, and that it was highly desirable, especially for the pur-
pose of giving satisfaction to the people of Scotland, that the
members of the Committee should be professional persons, or
persons who had turned their attention to the subject. In his
opinion, it would be better to allow the Committee to remain
without being filled up ; but if that were not the opinion of
the House, he would recommend that the further discussion of
the question should be postponed until Monday.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL had seen the original list of the
members of the Committee before it was proposed to the
House, and thought it a very fair one. When it was proposed
to the House, the only objection made to it was that some of
the lion. Members who belonged to the other side of the
House might not be able to attend. He (Lord J. Russell) had
observed that if that should prove to be the case there would be
no difficulty in filling up the vacancies with Members of the
same side of the Houso ; for no one contended that the consti-
tution of the Committee was irrevocable. Now, however, when
an Hon. Member from his side of the House was unable to
continue his attendance on the Committee, the substitution of
another Hon. Member of similar political principles was op-
posed. The Hon. Member for Buckingham was not entitled
to refuse the proposition of the lion. Member for Cocker-
mouth, and to say, " Do you propose your man, and I will
state my objections to him." The Noble Lord should cer-
tainly feel very confident in the high character of either of his
lion. Friends, the Member for Lancaster ( Mr. P. M. Stewart)
or the Hon. Member for Exeter ( Mr. Divett), and he could
not consent (seeing that a substantive propositiort had been
made) to substitute the name of Mr. P. M. Stewart for that
of Mr. Divett.
Mr. JAMES thought that the discussion which had taken
place that evening was one which was too well calculated to de-
preciate the character of that House in the eyes of the country.
The gallery was then cleared for a division. The House
divided first on the question that the O'Connor Don be ex-
cused from his attendance on the Fictitious Votes (Scotland)
Committee. _

For the motion
Against it
Majority for the motion ll4
During our exclusion from the gallery, the I-louse again, di-
vided on the question that Mr. Divett's name be substituted
for that of the O'Connor Don—

130

Ayes lll
Nocs . 40

Majority for Mr. Divett's name
being substituted —7l
The other motions having been postponed, the House ad.
journed at Ten o'Clock till Monday.

GENERAL EDUCATION AND CHA-

RITIES.

The following is Lord Brougham's abstract of his Bill for
promoting education and regulating charities, presented a few
night's since to the House of Lords : .
A Board for promoting education and regulating charities
is to be formed, consisting of seven Commissioners, namely—
three great officers of State (the President of the Council,
the Lord Privy Seal, and home Secretary of State) the
Speaker of the House of Commons, and three paid Commis-
sioners appointed by the Crown, but who are not to be remove-
able except by addresses of both Houses of Parliament. The
Commissioners are to have the power of appointing a Secre-
tary and two clerks ; they may sue and be sued in the name of
the Secretary, and are to have the usual protection in actions
against themselves and those acting under their authority.—
Clauses I. 11. and XXV.

The Commissioners have power to regulate their quorum,
and the number necessary to do any act, unless where other-
wise provided.—Clause I.

Ce.rtain things require the concurrence of the Life Com-
missioners, and certain things require the concurrence of one
of the officers of the State.—Clauses 111. V. XIII. XVII.
XXI. XXII.

The office of the Commissioners is twofold—as regards pro
moting education and regulating charities.
1.-EDUCATION.
The provisions under this branch relate :
First.—To the better application of funds already existing.

Seco►.dly.--To the application of additional funds, general
and local.
Thirdly.—To the improvement of the System of Eduation.
The provisions belonging to the Srst of these heads are to
be chiefly found in Articles 4 and 6 of this Abstract, and clauses
IX. and X. of the Bill.
The provisions belonging to the second head are to be chiefly
found in articles 1,5, and Bof this Abstract, and clauses 111.,
IX., and XIII. of the Bill.
The provisions belonging to the third head are to be chiefly
found in articles 1,2, 3,4, and 7of this Abstract, and clauses
111., IV., V., VI., VII., VIII., XI., and XII. of the Bill;
but articles 3 and 4, and clauses V., VI., VII., and VIII., are
also connected with the first and second head.
1. The Commissioners are to manage and distribute the
funds vested in them from time to time by Parliament for es-
tablishing schools, or maintaining those already established,
whether infant schools, ordinary schools, model schools, or
schools for training teachers : they are also to manage and dis-
tribute any other funds vested in them by individuals for the
like purposes.—Clause
2. They are to receive applications for advice and assistance
from Governors and Trustees of Schools, and to verify the
statements made to them by directing examinations of the
same.—Clause IV.

3. For this and other purposes they may appoint Inspectors
of Schools—not more than ten. The appointment and re-
moval of Inspectors is vested in the Life Commissioners, with
the concurrence of one of the Officers of State, and the Trea-
sury is to settle their remuneration and allowances ; but the
particulars of all such appointments and removals and pay.
ments are to be laid before Parliament.—Clause V.

4. The inspectors have power, under the authority of the
Commissioners, to examine the state and conducting of all en-
dowed schools which come within the late Acts for inquiring
into charities, of all schools which hare been or shall be as-
sisted by any grant of public money, and of all schools to be
established or assisted under this Act. They may also, but
with the consent of those having the care and superintendence
of them, examine the state and conducting of all other schools.
In both cases they are to report to the Commissioners, but
they are to furnish a copy of their report to the parties, with
the address of the Commissioners, in order that any answer or
explanation may be given.—Clauses VI., VII., VIII.
5. In all cases of charities given for the support of grammar
and other schools, or hospitals for children, or given for the
use of the poor in any place, without any specification of the
manner in which the fund shall be applied, the Commissioners
may advise the Trustees as to the most beneficial application
of such funds, and may authorize the Trustees to employ the
funds in the support of such kind of schools as the state of
education and the wants of the neighbourhood may require,
after making due provision for fulfilling the purposes of the
foundation ; arid the Trustees are empowered to employ the
funds accordingly, if they think fit.—Clause IX.
6. But in the case of charities founded above thirty years
before, if the trustees refuse to follow the advice of the Com-
missioners, then the Commissioners may apply to the Judi-
cial Committee of the Privy Council, who are empowered to
hear the matter, and to direct the trustees to follow the ad-
vice of the Commissioners, with or without variation ; such
directions to be binding on the trustees.—Clause X.
7. The Commissioners may authorize trustees to make any
conditions with masters of endowed schools on their appoints,
and may remove the masters on breach of such conditions ;
arid, generally, the Commissioners may, subject to appeal, re-
move masters for misconduct, negligence, and incapacity, and
may (if they think fit) allow part of the stipend as retiring
pension, unless in case of misconduct.—Clauses XI. XII.
8. In all Municipal Corporations already or hereafter in-
corporated, the Town Councils may lay before the Commis-
sioners plans and estimates for the establishment of new
schools, and for the support of schools already existing, with
the proposed rules and regulations for the conduct of those
schools ; and the Commissioners may approve of the same, in
the whole or in part, or with variations, and authorize the
Town Councils to levy a rate for carrying into effect the
scheme as approved by the Commissioners ; and after the
rules for the conduct of any school have been approved or fixed
by the Commissioners, they are not to be altered without their
consent.—Clause XII I.
lI.—CHARITIES.

The provisions under this branch relate :
First.—To supplying defects in the Constitution of .Charities.
Secondly.—To facilitating their Administration.
Thirdly.—To preventing and correcting Abuses.
The provisions belonging to the First of these heads are
to be chiefly found in articles 1 and 2 of this abstract, and
clauses XIV.,. XV., and XVI. of this Bill.
The provisions elonging to the Second head are to be
chiefly found in articles 2 arid 3 of this abstract, and in clauses
XVI. XVII. XVIII. and XIX. of the Bill.
The provisions belonging to the Third head are to be
chiefly found in articles 4,5, and 6, of this abstract, and in
clauses XX. XXI. XXII. XXIII. and XXIV. of the Bill.
1. The Commissioners are empowered to appoint Trustees
whenever their number has fallen below the quorum in the
foundation, and whenever they refuse to act, or cannot be