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cleard up and relieved by the perusal of this work,
and directed in a satisfactory train of inquiry,—(Hear'
hear.) Let not Hon. Gentlemen think that this was
an unimportant subject.--( Hear, hear.) The subject
surely could not he unimportant which involved the
power of withholding from, or supplying to, the public
in an easy and accessible form standard works of to;
q
rality and religion, and, as auxiliary to those, of goo
taste and correct feeling.—(Hear, hear.) He admitted
that it was an unfortunate condition in the production
of such works that such a reward should be held out to.
authors ; but he cautioned them against being seduced
by the speech of his eloquent friend, from exercising
their sound judgment upon this most important question.
His Hon. and Learned Friend had stated that persons
now read works under a sense of injustice, because
they felt they were robbing parties of what was the!!
property. Upon that subject he totally differed from his i
Hon. and Learned Friend, and with those who had fol
lowed him, including the Hon. and Learned member
for Dublin. What he calls property is what is ire•
plied in the law as the exclusive right of multiplYing
copies—that is not the production of the brain,
but the exclusive creation of the brain—and the
analogy which he put forward to the House of the
right which a person had in his character appeared to
him (the Solicitor-General) to bear very little on the
question. Persons were protected by the law in 00
characters, and they were protected in their lleAses.
He would sit down by saying he should Weise
this Bill because no case had been
e
to show that the present term was not sufficient, al'
though he considered there ought to be no copyright at
all, except such as would induce the production of books'
—( Hear, hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQVg
said that, differing as he did from the principles ist
down by his Hon. and Learned Friend t:ne
General, and the conclusion to which he had come(_:
(lid not think it would be fair to himself or to the l'ltT,
if he did not state the grounds on which he should v°'
for the Bill. They had got an admission from his
and Learned Friend that some law of copyrighltr
essential. He contended it was a question sallet"b',
the amount of protection at present given eras eneang
and the recital of the facts which his Hon. -and Leitr-bee
Friend (Sergeant Talfourd) had raade to t.t,"
House that night, proved that 'ander the ;,;/
isting state of the law the raotection was
no
adequate.—(Hear, hear.) No one could be Pio
eager and anxious for the diffusion of knowledge thot
he was, but in the first instance that knowledge Inert
be created, and if men of the highest eminenne!•ng
left without adequate reward the inducement to ufl;,.
forward literary talent for the creation of ke%
ledge was diminished.—(Hear, hear.) But again,lls4
respect to the cheapness of the knowledge? Whalail
been the phenomena going on under their own el:,
Had books become cheaper or dearer since the ene-
sion of the copyright in 1814 ? Was it not within to
knowledge of every individual that books had beea,
cheaper since that time, were daily becoming 0164'0i
and were becoming more accessible to the 1110
of mankind. It was the interest of the Pera°ot
who published, whether he was an author „4,
a bookseller, to print the books in a cheap 611,1/5a
The same motive would continue to operate, and
greater the circle of literature was among the 1101101
classes, the more certain might they be that the nu
for nis own sake, and with a view to his own inter°o
Would print his book in as cheap a shape as possibled
order to make it accessible to the public. He itnPrda
the House not to refuse to the ar.thor, in his last?)
ments, that share of reward whic:o he might have et Al
by his industry and talent. Hon. and Let4l
Friend had said, that if there was anything in theilro
of Mr. Wordsworth, th,e way to meet it would bed,
give a power to the Privy Council to extend the 14,
right. Why, that was an argument against the ev",,
ing state 9f tile law, and it was an additional
. !,
ment favour of his Hon. and Learned Fri
I3:ll.—(Hear, hear, hear.) If the law of c0p)1740
were even abolished altogether they might depend :,,urot
it that publishers and booksellers would be able, 3F'OO
themselves, to create a species of copyright that sf°,4t
raise the price of books. One word more before lIV
down. The Honourable Member for Bridport)
Igo
complained that the discussion upon this 13111,1
brought on upon a Wednesday, and had as'istilis
Hon. and Learned Friend to fix some other do yrelo4
discussion, of it. He begged of his Honou ruble
•o°,
Learned Friend not to attend to any such sliggke°t
because if he fixed upon any other order day., tue„idbe
ment he got up, probably 11 o'clock, there We; arsi,
a complaint that a subject of such vast importeneole
to be brought on at that late hour, and the: Bill oast
perhaps be indefinitely postponed without; the go
chance of its being passed this Session:a-4 blie
hear, and cheers.) The Bill was of grist, Pose
importance ; they had no right to assume thipiiist it
gentlemen who felt an interest either for it or et 080
would not attend in their places, and ino engeg",4yt
would prevent him attending to give it his suPP°
any time.—(Hear, hear.)
ouse
Strangers were ordered to withdraw. The
divided, when there appeared—
For the second reading of the Bill 73
Against it 37
•

Majority
On our re-entering, we found give
Mr. WARBURTON itating that he would7,ailo
every opposition the forms of the House: wouTAb:
to the further passing of the Bill—(Cries °' deo
oh!")—because he thought it should
twit be Pr°e%erc
with on a day when the Ministers of the Crown
seldom present.

COMMITTEE OF sioppLY. sll
The House then went into a Committee of
Mr. BERNAL in the Chair.
80
A sum of 2,000,0001. (we believe) wag voted
,
transfer, in aid of the out-standing Exchequer Biltiol
Mr. HUME would take that opportumity of !a'
notice that upon an early day he would move "r tbe
separate account be pre vented of all issues fro
Treasury of Exchequer' Bills for Public Works•
end
accounts were at grese•nt kept in a confused manner'
there was much roe.m for improvement. 0.00
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCITE— that
begged to assure his Hon. Friend and the Houser tbe
he was most auxious to do all in his power to rends tlqi
accounts as simple as possible. He would take
r/110
opportunity of stating to the House that he had
any manner departed from the old practice le n''''sf
out the public accounts. Such a charge "
founded.
the
t Mr. HUME believed the charges made egsii'6/001
Right Hon. Gentleman were not for altering the 0 d
of keeping and making out the accounts ; it -was °V
a more serious nature. It was that durir,g th:os to
year he had added between two and thref;mil Os'
the debt of the country without the sac.etioe %Ole'
House. That was the charge, and he (11.1 Ir. nutil-r; to
lieved it was true.--(A laugh.) He did not rel cliu
say that the operation was not a propel. one. """00
not mean to say that four millions of f;xchequeedioo;
could have been bought cheaper on the day in fluen-ut
nor that it was not essential to take ttrat amount
"clog°
the market, but be complained that had been fog
without the express sanction of Quit House' sr
Session must not be allowed to
viss without„
tern being altered, for at present any Chancellorfto
('
Exchequer could add to the funded debt and that P
know nothing of it for some time.
TheCHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQG'-',;, se'we."s stated that the form of making out the p v Y".-haP,"
counts had been altered, and that in their r,ge"'ol)l,l°
they did not give that full information which the roe'
had a right to demand ; but the charge vax,infoo
The transaction referred to was 'perfretlT legal'„,od
Act that was passed in 1827 authorized Ir;
tie
to make the operation, and it was esAntnunicateu t"
House as soon as possible.
1, p° Mr. HUME objected to the.: passing
of the
be was then told that his atorrAiension.s were e°111';
groundless,for that no Chancel:i ar of the 7ZxchecieeTios
dare to add to the funded• debt without the saillet'd°
that House. He brd
fieved it had never been tictoer.
before, and the T
That House "..der
ought to have no suell,r„ tbe,
uer such a system were adding 'l'
ta
the
burden of f-:„'",
'people in the dark. It was fears for
smeth.,ng of the same kind was going on. nevi' Thos
war, well known that our expenditure exceeded:jos
',.lorne, and the deficiency could not be made UP
some resource.
Adjourned at a Quarter to Eight o'clock.

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