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London, England, 1830-11-30 00:00:00

recollecting how often he Lad been silent under blame,
while he 4.surld hove - OYPN, 1110811 .oistivfitetory reasons for
Ivi-s'remluet.• • Ilia -only" present object wa. to do what, a•
ro,htitiOlvitaviiiintLitei•onretvo to be ids duty.
• The LOIIIYCHANCIIELOM•xpiained., Ile. had never
moment ihe tight:OfAehnliler Of the Great
. NIA ta;:intet eiin thw'appointroOlt of the 'Magistracy;
but he had been aexiouivtu: 'informs' upon the- mind of the
Lords Lieutitintut that.,he should be very 510 W to irrerfere,
knoitting the .great• advantve of the local know-
sidge,'"s Th4./Ceeper • of the Oreat*Seat might be besicg,d
hy'importasetities, 'and mighty he 'induced, in ignorance of
unfitness of any individnal, to include him in the Cori
, •
welistou ; is :ruceinstente which would not occur if the
previous opinion of those who werWptissosed of local
lionwledge were obtained.' • DlitiOortly claiming the right
of the Lord Chancellor on' the 'subject, he had thought the
best and the most delicate erine• would he to suggest to
shoe Noble Lords in quisuion, that they should themselves
supply the omissions of which be had complained. A.
he was on his legs, he begged to giro notitethOt he should
on Thursday next present a Mit to which he !ragged to
calf the serious attention of-their Lordships, and more es-
pecially of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Croat-
tench. 'lt seas n Bill for the noire effiwtual Atheinisloo.
tion rf Justice in England and Wales, by itte tadablish-
meat of Local Courts. He introduced it. at this early pc-
rind of the Session, in order that hall time might be given
far its ,eonsideration. • '

Viscount 31ELEtltiltNE begged to say 'a few wottls in
rcostfirmation of what had fallen from his Nohlt del Learned
Friend on the Woolsack. He joined with his Noble and
Learned Friend in urging the Lords Lieutenant of counties
eo take measures for placing in the Commission of the
Peace such individuals as alter careful inquiry Amtaa he
found, front their activity, zeal, and tharacter, proper per.
eons Ira slum VC) repose that confiderree. 'There appeared
to be Some difference Of principle In the motives for selec.
lion in different counties. to atone certain
lie
NITIV
rinchhiert.in others they were excluded. 110 would not
say shish Was right, or which Was wronc S Vat he again
begged Noble Lordeto. consider Well *Ault description of
• . persona it was advisable to introthwe- into the Cosa mission,
mid not to omitomit-any-who were likely to discharge the rilttes
of the office with firmness, impartiality, and diretetion.—
WWI respect to what had fallen.- from the Noble sail
Learned Lnrd opposite, the prercut was not the time to
discuss that ; subject. He agreed Ishii that Noble
tend Learned Lnrd, that many cf, the pers.ms who
haehien lately feel into, thg C.OTTliAip of crittto stew
sin this country, were not 'airare of the' extent of their
offktre'; and be also agreed'iVith hitu that it wait 'nem
airribat the !kw should he'vevaly'ejtpOßOded, that it be ,
carried into effect' where tiedessary, brit that the exeettioo
of it should be tempered with lenity when'evec It should
'appear that the. offenders;were igooreht, and had been
misled. If, however, the necessity should take place—
which he ttusteti to God it would not--if the disturbaners
should, spread...le had no wish to create delusion, heat he
bad great hopes, that they would be prevented fitrto spread-
ing..7if, however, they should spread, fun Majesty's Go-
vernment would take measures pr ocotly to suppress them,
Oh preserve the public peace l and to maintain the autho-
rity of the illitf4,—(llear, Itear.).LAs to the fact statvil by
the Noble anti Learned Lord, that there ware Many per-
sons not natives of this country in one: of our gaols, he
hoped some allowance would ha made for the circum-
stances under which he hod come into office, and that it
would not be expected that he could at present imam all
the information necessary to . meet such ate . allegation ;
but this he vuesuld say, that he bad un mason to believe
that the Noble and Learned. Lord's statement was well-
follo4lll.
The Jail of UPON, in exoanation, said that the
ataterneet which he had Made was contained in a letter
which he hail that morning reeeietd. If, on further ill-
(Miry, he fuind that the statement was well founded, he
hel it his ditty to'weit upon the Noble Earl, and
communicate to him the circumstances tithe case.

the Earl of FALMOUTH' observed, that the Noble
End at the bead (tilde Majesty's Government hail maid that
it was not his intention to propose any new meneure in
order to etreugthen the law,' unities in 4 case of *ethane
nmessity. Now to him (Lord F,) it appeaml that a wee
of great, if not of extreme, neeemier armally existed.. A
Nelda and Learned laorti,hall„toltkAueir,Lordeltilsw that one
the gaols wee filled with pereenseApprehenderi during
the went diem' hatices,„tylin wore• not natives of this
courary: , 14 was notorintie that
„many inttlidieriett, who
been unable to throw their (Iwo countrite into flames,
bad neared forth to epreed dentruetinn eleewbere, itwas
cot to he doubted that the greater part of these rOigaged'in
the recent outragensAtte but it was nisi, probable
what many fraeignersavere trtingleili Witte them. lie ad-
tnktted that the "Pagini 'anntrtsiiiinus which Work about to
r 44 the ilistorbeti'distripts were -,ratearinted to tie useful;
but he ware appreheloderetieet gory had not snflieicnt power
to lay 14114 tioottieoreeittel+e,tke ineerolisrits, who ,were
the reel guilty, gallons ~.Xhe: farmers were, compelled, to
go to thee:4lw° 91: protesting , their property by. night
Watelice. This was no extraordinary recene,, and ape
peered to hint to require extrentAlOary Oowertt and Mtn-
surer. No man 'war, wore attached than he was to our
free institutions; no num wee' more jealowr of ' liberty
but if there was any truth in the axiom that the ptildic
safety should be the oularenut iswi,the &dent times tom-
-418 in 64 (Onion, withitr.the ataremint of thet- axiom,
Nome powerful measure oughto toabo adopted. ', He was
penmaded ,tint ; :it, w0u1,.1 impossible, , lay hold of
Rite *collieries is question onkew,eirtne.meesuree,,aoine ,
tenipnrary. Aoen emprawectbe tiovernment to
seer: on soy suspicious foreignerepnrictimpel them*, give
an account. of themselveS, A medium er that description
n4la im limited in its duratiortin'lltree months, to two
menthe, to one moods ; but some sorb miasore roes Aso.
tritely necessary,
The Mike of WELLINGTON 'ltd L that after the
ifeleet.eonsideration-which he had been able to give to the
subject, he slid pot see any reason or ground fur thinking
thaws any alteration in the existing law was necessary..-:
(Heer, bear.)-,.The outrages which had taken thee in
the tawetry were of two description% the first was that,
open deaeription of outrage which there was no doubt
might be got the better of by the operation of the ordinary
kw, The seeond was that description of erime,..the de-
btructiott of property by fire, of the perpetrators of which
Government bad not hitherto been able to diseover any
trace- whatever. It was oupposed by some Noble Lords
Out they .were.foreigners. He did not blieve, however,
that then) was any evidence whatever of the feet. It' was
a aisiectiption of crime that wet certainly effecter! by a
eatoopiracy of some kind or other; but whether the now,
+Orators were foreigners or Englishmen no man could'
pensibly say. As to foreigners being in gaols, he cold'
only say that with reference to one county iii which out.
ragas of the moat flagrant kind tail occurred, there wow
not one foreigner among the persona with which
ecr , gaol was filled, r He would tremble their Lordahips
with a few; words on another lubjeet, Which had been
introduced into the present ennversatiets.• Hit'thonght that
it was tlesiralde for Government to abstain as touch ate
elide from- interfering with the reconotindatioris of the
Lords Lieutenant with regard to the inagiatreey. Deeply
interested se threat Noble Lords naturally must he in the
teettrity of the property, amd the preservation of the tuna-
ottillity of their respective counties, they would, of eourse,,
select persona proper, r and celeulated' tit do their ditty in,
assisting in the athrsinistratien of justita.. Ife hail no
doubt, that the Lords Lieutenant would,' however, ;mend
to the angetetien of the Nolte and,'Leernett Lord on the
Wooleeeki and that they wonidintredovie a sufficient ninth-
bee, of ;proper- patatme- row the 'ettownitOlibll of the pros.
it was evident, that in meet',mow' local knowledge of
character was indiltplenlabN, before'any irefividual ,Could he
safely' reetnnefierided for the Magientroy •' awl lie therefore
earnestly advised the Nohle and Ltarned Lord tordietnin
as touch as possible from interfering with the return-i
utentlations of the Lords Lieutenant.

The Eirl 1111114Cli11.SEA observed, Ord with re.
liptet •to the county with which be wee countered, Le
could add hit tevtimony to that of the Noble Dube, that
np to the present time there wee nu groom! for be-
hiving, that the fires which had beiiv so prevalent through-
out -the country -.were the work of fhtitignere. lie
ditto-tit, therefore, front the noble tool; wlio was of
opinion, that some - extraordinary lrgialative tneatinte
wee necessary. fie behaved that the -exiating, laws were
ataficient to restore prate and tranquillity. 'From the
Contruissiona which were about to pierced into- the
country, be anticipated great benefit ; 'end he thought
Out the rowinri. was to Aiwa urgreat mercy to the deluded
peol;le. In 'candle) knewdhat the'pe,aple were ignorant
of law, anti lgnorant of the puilidanent Which the
churse that they were •puitinitti must bring Iyeal them.
Htftruatetl, thereforni thisetho'Coirtmiisions whiell were
gn rig. forth into tiittlitteitililti tvlitch the' law leul been
virditodi would h i productive olgiiit advantage. lie had
wit bran in the uia when the Noble Earl at the heath
of lets lileirs'y'a Government. hail explained the euuree
Whirl! Mititltysi GOVernffittilt intended to pursue, but
he had real that speech witb great gratification ; and he
was permitted that the et-nut:tents width it contained
would Le highly sativfaetoty ttt tne great body of bill' Ma.
jody)if inibilactsi lie wee twevai'tri Ali 4114 Isis stoat cordial
sopont to his Monody's prot*ot 4tritqoment, whom ha
had perfettconfidenee. 'their determination nt restore a
Gonetitational Representation Should have bia warmest
mocurrenee. He nongratulatal
'kbeir ;tdjihlpe tin sealing
the Government of tlta ennotver irlacrrl ire that twidi of