The Sun.
London, England, 1806-04-23 00:00:00

VOLUNTEERS.

Mr. PERCIVAL rose, pursuant to notice, to triovf.t.
for Papers to show 'the aCtual amount of the
pences incurred.for the 'Volunteer Force. He W3F
aware of the difficulty of giving to ,such a Mc tio'n 3
character capable of application to the measures' pro-
posed by the Right Hon. Secretary for the
.War D.
partment. But as that Light Hon. Gentleman had
proposed regulations tending to the immediate reduc-
tion, and: ultimately to• the total extiudtion of the
Volunteer Force, he was satisfied, to put what he
bad to bring forward in any shape that could have
the effeA of inducing the Right Hon. Gentleman to
wave prbceedings , that had su pernicious a tendency.
That any person should •incorporate into a scheme.
fbr increasing the Military strength of the Country,
a measure, the effeel of which must be to oblige
300,000 able, effeetive, loyal., and zealous men to
lay.down their arms', or what was wdrse,lto place them
in a state of relaxed discipline, a state in which they
Were to afford a stigmatized asyluni-fo those averse
to being trained in. the general- masa ; this Was, a
mode of increasing. the Military strength of the
Country the most extraordinary and unaccountable
it was possible to conceive.- This was wpart of the
,Right Hon. Gentle Man's plan, which the EnenV
would have..more cause. ,to be -satisfied with than
. with all besides that he had achieved since are rc.r.-
mencement of the Wis. He wi51,9,1 for an account
:,of the a&ual expenditure for Volunteer Service, for
the purpose of comparing that expenditure with the
nature and amount of the service rendered for it, for
'the purpose of showing, that it was an expenditure
that by no means bore that prOportion to the amount
,of the Income'Tax the Right 'Hort, Gentleman had
stated on a former night, though certainly the aceu-,
• mulation of the expellee. of the Volunteer 'B3rstein
for years,,like that of any other expence, may bear
some proportion to that tax. He did suppose that
. some part of the expences of the Volunteer System
may be spared, without diminishing the Volunteer.
Force ; but he wished for an estimate of the expence,
of training the people en masse, in the manner pro-
posed by the, Rig'ht ,Hon. Gentleman, fir the pur-
. pose of comparing-that:expence with the expence of
, the Volunteers ; and spewing whether the saVing, if
any, would be adequate to the commutation of the
voluntary-service of three hundred thousand loyal
.and spirted Englishmen, for -the compulsory train-
ing of as inferior number of a' less valuable de.
scription, in a shape contrary to their
When the accounts would have been produced,. the
House would be better able to make a coropMative
estimate between both, these descriptions of Force.
!He no hesitation to say, that if compulsion
, should be resorted to to obtain the training en masse
in a shape contrary to the inclination of the people,
it would b,e . unconstitutional. However clear. the
right may be to call for the services of every indivi.
dual—however clear the ilreroative of tho Crown

masse. What his V.:gilt 'don. Friend bad said on
this point amounted only to this, that lithe mode of
training by the levy en masse should be peculiarly,
-hard upon the richer and higher-classes, rather than
upon those haw.' them, they should have the means'
of exempting themselves in a way natural to the aich,
by expending a part of their wealth in a species of
service more chargeable to themselves. It may be
matter of doubt,whether the having of 200,000 men,
not however 200,000 men sok-Iy, but 200,000 by
rotation, till the whole population of -the country
should be trained. may be advisable, was a fair ques-
tion, and the Hon. Gentleman would, have an op-
portunity upon that question to rettad.allthose opi-
nions he had formerly urged in support of its prin-
ciples on the passing of the levy-en-masse A&. He
may, if he please, condemn this mode of proceeding
as not advisable ; but he could not speak of it as in- .
suiting: When the whole strength of the Country
was to be called forth, as in case of . invasion; he,
though as much inclined to the indulgence of free-
will as. any, could_ not possibly suppose there would
be any reludance or falling back in any, description
oldie people. - However the sentiments of his Hon.
Friend, which had been-so clearly stated in his ex-
planation, had been tortured, for the purposes of the
Hob. Gentleman opposite, he was_ glad the speech
of the Hon: Gentleman this night bad given hini the
'opportunity of declaring, that there was no inten-
tion to diminish the numbers of the Volunteers, but
to' diminiih the expence ; and.whether that
tion was wise or nowise—sthere, was nothing in it to
inflame the blookof any one. He had heard that
the intended measure had produced some little emo-
tion in the country at first ; but that it had been
suppressed as soon as any persons of consideration
had the opportunity of taking notice of it. The
Hon. Gentleman said, it would be unwise in the
Volunteers to give way to such emotioos, as they
would furnish ground of accusation fin their .enes
Mies : Whom the Hon. Gentleman meant to describe
as their enemies he was at a loss to say ; and that
they would 'be taken advantage of by those who
wished to suppress them.• He could not, from the
tendency of the Hon: Gentle Man's speech, be at a
loss • to say whom he meant, by this last allusion ;
but he was at a loss for any ground for the Hon.
Gentleman to insinuate such a charge. There May-
be ditierenees of opinion in Parliament as to the.
policy of the measure; and if exertions to that-died
were made, there aray be discontents in the coun-
try, and of course- among the Volunteers ; but he
was satisfied that among the Volunteers in particu-
lar there was no such discontents as the Hon. Gentle-
man wanted to give the House to believe. -
Mr. PERCI,VAL, in explanation, said, he may
have misunderstood the meaning of the Right Hon:
Secretary, as it was now, explained. But from the
words:used, and the concomitant circumstances, of
allowing no Drill Serjeants, no inspeotino. Field Offi-
cers, 'no permanent duty, he left it to the House to
judge whether lie was not warranted in making the
interpretation. The Right Hon. Gentleman may
say he had explained himself to mean, by relaxation
of discipline, only a redudion of the days of exercise;
but there had been no misinterpretation of what he
had said, farther than what it was naturally calculated
to suggest till explained. No wilful misrepresenta-
tion was charged. The Right Hon. Secretary
who had spoken. last possessed a key to the Right
Hon. Gentleman's meaning, which he did not pos-
sess : but he appealed to the sHouse for the fairness
of the meaning he had assumed,'befbre lie was cos-
reded by the explanation of this night. He was
glad, that he had been in any way the instrument of
drawing out the declaration, that it vas, not the in-
tention of His Majesty's Minister's to diminish the
Volunteer Force.
Mr. FOX in explanation said, the Hon. Gentle-
Man was equally called upon to acquit His Majesty's
Ministers of having done any thing Offensive to-the
Volunteers.
L6rd CASTL EREAGH had never heard any
speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman's with more
pleasure than that- syhichs he had now closed. Whe-
ther from: then-discontents expressed in the House,
or those expressed out of it,. or _from ;whatever
cause, the Bill brought forward was. extremel dif-
ferent from the opening view of the Right Honour-
able Gentleman who had brought it forward. He
wished that the Amendment would be carried still
further, and the -branch .of the military establishment
appropriated to foreign service, would also escape
the innovating- asp of .the Right Hon. Gentleman ;
and that the destructive reform lie meditated would
bessacrified either to the public disapprobation, or
the Right Hon. Gentleman's own better considera-
tion. He should be sorry to pin any man to a particular
expression that may have escaped him in the warmth
of , debate ; but the expression alluded to was too
distind to be liable to misubderstanding or
misin-
terpretation. The Right Hon. Gentlernan had ex-
pressly spoken of loosening the discipline of the Vo-
lunteer Force. The Right Hon. Gentleman had
besides opened his speech with lamenting, that the
stage was occupied by the Volunteers. The Right
Hon. Gentleman may not have been prepared .to
proceed to the immediate dissolution of the Volun-
teer Force; but he called on:the House to recoiled,
that the Right Hon. Gentleman, in agreeing to grant.
clothing -for this year, expressly Withheld himself
from- any
-pledge to grant it in any future year. He-
called on the-Right Hon. Gentleman to say whether
he had not expressed himself to this effect. He knew
the night Hon. Gentleman was too manly to deny it.
The Right Hon. Gentleman had said, that the Voltin-
teers were prepared for a service to which they
,were
wholly inadequate; and that whatever the Inspect-
ing Field Officers may say of their fitness to/serve in
the Line, they were wholly unqualified for that ser-
vice. But however the term of loosening the disci-
pline may be • explained, a material change was to
be made by taking away the Drill Serjeants and
the Inspeeting Field Officers, the only point of
contact with the Government the Volunteers had.
Instead of being in-a situation where.they could be of
essential service to the Country, the Volunteers were
to be sent back to their homes. In every step, from
the higher retrenchment of the Staff, to thelower re-
trenchment of the Drill Serjeants, every thing short of
absolute disbanding was proposed, in the redaction
of the Volunteer Force, with a view to an armed po-
pulace or a drilled mass. Was- it possible to conceive
such a military body as a drilled 'mass without Offi-
cers, to be taken out of the people, and after 2'5 days
of drilling, after being shewn the use of the musket
so far as they could learn it, to be sent back again
among. the people, whether With • or Without the

May be- to that -effea, it ens only the nete sty of
the case that could justify • the application of the
principle ; and it rested on the Right, HOnour-
able Gentleman opposite,. to sliew the necessity
which called for the increase of the Army, by
coMpelling 200,000 men to come out and be trained,
when they disbanded 300,000 already trained, and
obliged' them to lay down their arms. The compari-
son the Papers would aflbrd, would be only a com-
parisoti of expence : there was no comparison in the.
description of service. He was well aware that it
was a delicate thing to trench on the Volunteermind.
The introduction of the Bill before the House had
produced Inuele egitetion. He had' nb desire o in-
crease the disposition to resign ; all that he said had
a contrary view. He. thought it -Weolig in the Vo-
lunteers to take up an impression so unfavourable
of the' proposed measures; and. whenever he had
bad an opportunity to offer his advice, be had.
recommended to wait -till' Parliament bad given
its opinion. For so far every one- say reason- to
condeMn and complain ; reason may be 'seen at the
same time to suppose that Parliament would not
sanction any thing so obviously wrong, at least not
without modifying it so as to render it less excep-
tionable.. Hence. there, was reason to conclude, that
if the measures proposed with respect to the Volun-
teers were at all adopted, it would not be Without
- qualificetions calculated to remove their exceptionable
qualities. With these sentiments he ardently
wished the . produaion of the Papers he proposed
moving for, with a view to remove discontents, at
the existence of which, under- the present -circum-
stances, he 'did not wonder. He was particularly
anxious to'prevent, and to remove such discontents,
as he was sensible they would be made use of by
the cnemies of the Volunteers as the strongest
argument to get rid of, -and to remove -them
from the honourable 'and useful station in which
they_ stood. It was in the remembrance of every
one, that when the services of the Volunteers
were called for at the commencement of the most
imminent danger,-which bad not yet passed by, they
came forward with a patriotism and a spirit of the
most honourable description. But, when the very
Ar.ltriinistration, in, a great measure, that then called
them forward, now called on them to leave their
ranks and to mingle with the multitude ; when they
were told that the military colour was disgraced by
their weering it, and military rank by-their -holding
it, was it not to be expeacd that they would shrink
back from the post they had heretofore courted with
so much eagerness, nod maintained with so much
erwrgy The ohjc& he bad in view ie moving for
t the Papers be proposed to have laid before the
House, was to lead to explanations which would
remove. these .diacoutents, and the diminution of
force arid. disaffection of spirit that must arise from
them. He moved that there be laid before the
House an Account of all monies issued in Great Bri-
tain for Volunteer service since the commencement
of the present War, and the heads of the various
issues.: ' •
Mr. Secretary FOX had no objeaion, to the Mo-
tion. His Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Windham) stated
. expressly and distin&ly that he did not mean to make
any redu&ion in the Volunteer Force. In agreeing
to the Right Hon. Gentleman's Motion, however, lie
could not give his approbation to the 'Right Hon,.
ceeeeb The hitter part of the speecb,
which recommended to abstain from any premature
condemnation of the measures about to be proposed,
and to. wait to see what would be ultimately. resolved
upon, he commended; but the Other part Which went
on a misunderstanding, and misinterpretation of his
Right Hon. Friend's exptessions, to put it to the Vo.-
lunteers to withdraw their services,he could not either
approve or tolerate. • .His Right. Hon. Friend had
already explained what he meant by relaxing the
discipline Of the Volunteers, which was nothing more
than to- exercise them for a smaller number.of days.
Whether this was wise or not, may be fair matter of
discussion ; but it could note Matter of offence to
any, and least of all to the olunteers.. But when
he heard an HonourableGentleman, capable of better
things, grasping at words, and misrepresenting them
- so grossly; as to assign to what his,Right Hon. Friend
had_ explained as his meaning of the expression of re-
laxing the discipline of the Volunteers, an intention
disband the whole Volunteer force of 300,000
men, for the. purpose of calling out and substituting
240,000 of the levy en naesse, he- could not help re-
foannendingto that Hon:Gentleman what he had re-
' eoinineaded to the Volunteers—to wait till he under-
. -stood whafwas to be done before he-presumed to give
all opinion ofso injurious a nature. If his Right on.
Friend had it in contemplatio:i to disband the Volun-
teers, he 'had concealed theeintention from him, and
so .thr as he was aware, ;from the rest of His Majes-
ty's- Ministers. It was possible his Right Hon.
. Friend may not look forward to a diminution of the
Volunteer Force : It was likely, -to be sure, that
the redo lion of allowances he proposed may have
. the effeCt-of producing a diminution of numbers : but
that there was any such intention on the part of His
I%ll3.esty's Government, or on the part of his Right
- lion. }none; or
,that one word in his speech could
• be tortured to warrant such, an interpretation, he
a bsolutOy denied.. recommended to the Right
Hon.Gentlernan, therefore, as he had done to the Vo-
lunteers, to abstain from censure on objects which he
'did not Oriden;tartd. -When the question would be be-
fore the House.in its proper shape, it would be com-
petent to argue; w hethcr the measures preiposed by his
Right Hon. Friend would have the efra of reducing
the numbers of the Volunteers; whether the expellee
would be 'reduced' in a proportion- greater or
.leSs
than the redeaion of numbers;- and whether, on a
combination of these considerations, and a view of
the service to be obtained by the levy en masse, the-
- measures proposed- by his Right Hon. Friend could
he with prudence adopted. - Those who were pre-
judiced. against the measures proposed by his Ho
-
pourable Friend may already look upon the diminu-e
fion of the numbers of= the 'Volunteers as certain.
; They would then only have to consider whether the
-diminution in the number, or the saving in the ee-
pence, were the more important consideration; that
was a, fair question, and a question in its nature so
temperate, that he could not possibly conceive how
it could give rise to any irritation, much less how it
could be matter of insult to the Volunteers, to-degrade
and set a stigma upon them, as the Ho'n.Gentleman,
in his animated language, had thought- proper to sup-
pose. Aeothei stigma - the Hon, Gentleman 'had
found in the Volunteer Force being, as he described
it, made a sort of asylum for _those Who should -be
deposed- to fly from the training of the levy •en

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muskets, to the. use of which they would nave been - a
,e . sted in a few subordinate measures of economy,
trained, the Right Hon, Gentleman clid nothsayf Iti,aichaeould have no effea one way Or the -other
If this mass WaS to be thus trained without Otieets; le 1,1e,a hhent merely to put the Volunteers on the ori- •
how was it possiblY to be collehted in case of Invasion ? I gitial footing of i•olun vary service, a footing on which:
iohenoo of the ttah,hee now existing already,
ilk. I-1 NM to ,order, .asked whether this it : ,
were.
0 Motion-our the general_ subject of the Volenteer , Theolajea. teas to reduce them from the June to the
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Force; for if" it was a ese Motion for Papers', it August allossances. There were now hut -e• 0,000
was very wrong tb go into it at such a length with- :on the. Rine allow ances. If this could have the eft.
out notice. , - fed. of disbandipg the Volisiteers, of whorl-a:300,00e-
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;Mr. PAULL stated the right to the. attention of Were already on the allowance to which all were to
the-House to belong to his Motion, of which a long be red.ueed, it was matter of astonishment to him, ,
notice had been given, and not to this of which there t as it would be to all the world.. The propoSed arcs
had been nu /notice. - rangenient would have no other efred than that of.
The SPEAKER said, there had been a notice of ' placinh the allewaneee on the-foohnh on which they.
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the Motion for Papers relating to the Volunteer ' had been at first, and on which it ' a, :tel.-now-
Force. The Motion certainly had been . branched I lodged to he .desirable that they should be_ The -
out into a more general' range .than such a Motion tendency of his propoaiiion was rather 10, add t
seemed to require. But it was in the discretion Of . than to diminish the numbers of the ' Volunteers,
the House to permit or to restrain such extraneous There was nothing- disne to:disband, and these whet
proceedings. He did not feel warranted in litter- would find-it eligible to go into the Volunteers to
posing to check it hefdre, nor did 4ie now. - avoid the training en masse, mist, ore tardy, be as
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increa: e. To leave did ' allowances 'as the were,
-Lord CASTLERE_4GI-1 said, lie had been nate-
rally led into a comparison of the Volunteer Force without any increase, trost have.the eifeet. of doing
with that which the Right Hon. Gentleman' meant . what he did. 'He did na, disguise or, dissembles—
He thanked the Noble Lord for the compliment he
to substitute. He was glad that so material a change
had been made in what the Right Hon. Gentleman paid him it) expressing his coptidellee lila lie-would
had proposed ; and according as further Chancres ate. in a manly way : he did so. The Bin only went
should be made to bring it more near, it Would °be
to put into the mass the' s that nvenld not serve
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more near being entitled' to any /support lie could at their own' expellee, and take 'out oC,the -.nines%
those who wished to•serye at their oWli"-ht- pence. A
give. All the regulations proposed were calculated
to produccepraaical relaxation of discipline, and di- to the general argument on the measote, lie would
reserve himself till a future occasion, its "the Hon--
of numbers. , ,
M. IPINDIIAM was glad his Right Hon. Friend Gentleman
_ought to hove clone, if he had coutented
had stepped forward to answer the Hon: Gentleman himself with moving for papers, to -the preelh&tiorte
who bad-brought forward his Motion.- He had him- of which he must have khown there-wds net the
self been thrown into an agitation which rendered it I mil:A-lest cbie4tion, When the ,Hon: Gentleman
poig. made a speech. (Zsuelelength, in such langteige, awl-
with such matter, it was fair to imputeato PI"; 0.0-
not quite fit for him to stand. up, not by the
nancy of the wit of the Right Honourable Gen-
: jeas different from his mere Motion. lie had nt;,-
tleman who had introduced this Debate, but by a
sort of figure of speech adopted by the Honourable the smallest objection to- the -preduaion, of . the
Gentleman, which excited feelings in him which it pa pens
T.:4I?L'ETON congratulated, the Honsen
was fit to keep down, and to forbear addressing the
House, till they had:given _place: to feelings of a cooler oh.the,detferettee of the I? fight Hon, Gentlen-lan's
nature. , Part of the arguments urged on the other sentithents this night from what he thought on- the.
,side..applied to questions very proper to be discussed night. on whieh he brought forWard_his measere.— _
at another time, When the measure that gave rise to Every one_ mast remark the vast differenee of hhte,-
he Janguage, anti Manner. In the Sheri Sketch of tilt.:
these queStions should be before the House. T
other part
.called not so Much for argument, as- , for former night the Right Hon. Centleman took away
-la was' an open undss.gnissia inns_ from the. Volunteers their -DeilleSerjeanni and their
coetradiaion. Inspect Reid Field Officers, thinking it suffi
statement of whathe had said on a former hight.,- ciept that
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they should be seen some time in the year by tile
He had not only.never.said, but he had never thought
of s.vhat had been imputed to him. The Hon. Gen- Lor4 Lieutenant or-his Deputy. That must indeed
tleman had expressed, an anxiety to explain the obe relax their diseiplinhis day mtie. The difference of tone thet.
Jed of his -lotion. It was not neceisary to explain was observable this betehputed -to the sersee
the Country-had manifested on the contents of the
the obie& of the Mover—that was clear; and he .
speech Ina& by the honourable Gentleman on a
should be exceedingly sorry if the Hon: Gentleman
former day. Resolutions 'had been entered into
bad not been as perfectly successful in that point as he. I
Was, It Ntris a kind of Parliamentary warfare, resorted .1
by nianY' CorPs, which hod been . aubmitted to
to ins show-few instances before, but nosy adopted His Majesty's Minismers. 'He had seen manr
such resolutions, and. had recommended to .s,it
without limit by the' Hon. Gentlemen On the other
side to infieence every passion right or wrong (a cry. I patiently till Mr. Whin:he's' Sy stemma should be fully
of No, No, frOti the other fide}. That was at least the explained. The Hon. Member and the House.
would pardon the irregularity of thentioninahthe
tendency of what had beeh said; and though it maynot '
1 -name •; but the System was known, as Mr, ind--
be Parliameotary to charge it direalv, he was more
I ham's, in contradistinaion to. all others that had 'ever
justified in cottoning it from the speeches of the Hon.
Gentle:ben, thah they were in colleaing the raisin- existed. The objet~: of the Motion was tty.imPliii.
and elucidate the statement of the Right Hon. Ge"re-
terpeetatiOn Of this
.night from his. The Hon. Gen,:
The Right Hon. Gent. had stated that 5,0-00,0" Le
tlemen May, if they thought fit, adopt this system of ,
bad been expended in three years for Velunteer'Serh"
Parliamentaay warfare; but he wished_them to ab, ' ,
vice ; and the question wns, whether there was nt
stain Prom misinterpreting ' his speeches, and Making !
that servi-ce merit adecmate to the cost ? The Meit-
their own misinterpretations the foundation- of at-.
tacks upon him. He should be lrappy to follow the of the service, was ungesstionable e and was service
contradictions in their order, but that was impossia of such unquestionabfe merit to be recempensectonly
, ti the refusal of rank, as if they were, unworthy n'
ble.. The Heti. Gentleman charged lima with saying
it, by telling them, that the colour of the cloth w_,A;
the Army was degraded by the Volunteers' Wearing
the same colour. All he had said Was, that as the degraded by their wearing l it. - 'his wa as ' Mode pf
Army every where,existed as a distill& body, and its increasing the strength nod security of the Country
. which could not be easily paralleled.
character depended in a great measure- on that -dis-
tinetion, a part of its chaeader and discipline was lost J'he question was, now put, and the Papers cre
when that distinaion was multiplied. He denied dered without opposition.
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traing any expression to the extent charged upon him.
A Message from the Lords
As to the charge of having made the Voltinteers a ships' assent to the Treasueer of the Ordnance declared their Lail. .
Sir John Duckworth A;s rmuity Bill, and several Vll-
degrading asylum for those who fled froin the levy
`,ate Bills.
en masse, his Right Hon. Friend had so fully vindi-
The Order of the Day being read, for- taking
cared him, that he.was almostashamed to revert to -
it. His object was, that persons who from their si- consideration His Majesty's Message,
tuation in life would 'be averse to, being trained in Mr. Secretary
. FOX observed,- that as it woithi
he
the general Mass, should have the option of being be more convenient 'for the Memberseto talce te
•thtined in a more congehial manner. It Was on the Message into consideration to-morrow, he moved,
same principle that the Volunteer System was form- that the slid order be clischargaxl; Which wes agree..
into
, to. .11-e then moved, 'that at be talten into cuibh--
ed.on the basis of the Levy-en-masseAa . The exemp-
htioes from the Mill tia,and other inducements to enter oration to-morrow. I -Ordered.
into Volanteeteservice were made matter of reproach _ MARQUIS WELLESLOT..
to the Velunteers. Ile did not Make theist- Matter of • Mr. P.IULL rose, for the purpose of stibiniting-
reproach ; the Hoe. Gent. did in making them matter to the'Hoese the I\lotion of which he had given 116-
of coatraat between the Volunteer training and the ' rice. ' .It teasea' his Whitt' to trey ass at any get; t
levy, eh masse. And by whom was this diStinaioe length
,on their time; indeed, had that orighll'inT
made ? The HonhGentletnan was the author of the been his intentioh, the long debate whichleld Just
Army of Reserve Bill, by Which '50,000 men were tel would hes-e been sufficietit to des
to be raised, who, had given to the Volunteeran- -the ideas of one s;) little aceeatomed to-Ouhlies-pehliing:
exemption from this a\kt, and from the Militia; and ias aonsent He „.„en centime Breese la the first
instance; to an exPlanation of tine mode of proc'sh'd--
Who had, as his Noble. Friend (Lord Temple) very I
properly reminded him, given as his opinion, that 1 ing which he meant to adept. He Might, perhaps,
a Volunteer could not resign. He was.the person.to be asked.why he volturteered the undertaking? He.
come forward now', and to say the-Volunteers whre would answer, that with reaeird toll t l - '""lit'st
e- la canige <aaa •
degr:ided by the'adrhission of those who preferred Marquis Wellesley, which related to the Nabob c't.
voluntary training to the training en - =sae.. a He_ Ferruckabad, • he' was most intimately acatiainted
came now to 'the charge of relaxing the discipline. with all the circtunstanceshattending it. He alsG
It was rather singular, that in' the speech which he was well informed on the subject of the lavish eh-
as well- as others lisd thought long for the occasion,
this was the only point he could feSten upon as a penditure of the Conlpany's _money by Marquta
Wellesley; but he did think that this Was a part of
subjectt of discontent to a large body of mein where the case Which orient co !ease been. brought forst-ard.
the Honourable Gentleman and. lila friends :hoed it by those Who ti been threiarieled with eile ateerse-&-:11-
.
convenient to agitate. ' Perhaps, critieally speaking, of ruin by 24Iarquis Wellesley's. condut. For hi:well,.
the word• relax might have been inexad etid-une he was fully aware of the difficulties of theease
fortunate ; remit might have been a Letter word ; \title].) he had prescribed to himself; his only (_ :-.7
tile Honourable Gentleman may feel alnustNl, hat
..todischarge -in thebest sA ay that he eotleA.
Was
the House would recoiled, that all objeCtionsof this He believed that the Court of -Directors Were 110,v
nature Would. be nothing more than nele verbal perfectly conscious that- they ought to have come
criticisms. The Hon. Gentlemantilaso colleted so forward, alley. ead -eueeed drawn op a Bill of In-
much mischief from the wonder-working Word, dietment is lids contaived the strongest flEts aganq
relax-, must, as well as the House, be aware, that the Marquis. For hirbself he had most seriously ie.
be meant by it nothing more than that the Vo- lament' the absanee of a Nehle Lord who had pre-
luhteers should attend a smaller number 'of clays, .
• mised to support hital, and by so doing to advocate-
and that there should be no permanent duty.-- the cause' of justice, but who was prevented by ille.
With resped t 6 their attendance at drills, "- ness from coming down 10 the House, (i.Ve under--
the other days, or their being subject at proper , stood the Elon.Gentleman to mean Lord Folkstone).
times to military law, no alteration Wa3 to be made. 'He bad sought for precedents to guide him in 14-
The Inspecting Officer had no power to enforce at- hourse of proceeding. That' of Mr: Hastings wos
tendance at drills, and that amongothera was a reason the most obvious. I 1 the House should think his
for getting rid of them. How the Hon. Centre- charge worthy of lying on their. Table, lie should
man, Who must have known that the application move on a future. day then be taken into cOnsidera-
of the word relax.. was confined, to these -pointa, ' thin. He trusted that the-House would excuse any
could give su,h - a latitude the it, he was at a inthrmalities in the \ray in which the charge lehl
loss to conceive. In hint:Leif he felt awkward been drawn out, and not shied it on that account.
at being pu j
t upon his ustifreation, when he was so . lie,had- been unaiSkd its drawing it th by any Gen-
.
perfectly uncensetoha of any
,thing wrong.. The- tlen-ao of the'Leva, and the charge -could c0t:1...-
whole Of his alteratiohS ill the Volunteer System 'uteatly not be ex. eed to posSess that accuse;- est',

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