The Sun.
London, England, 1808-06-21 00:00:00

•DEFENUE OF ;TFIE COUNTRY.

On thernotion for the third reading'of the Scotch
. Local Militia Bill,

Mr. YORK E lamented that he b4I not been p.a..,

sent to state his Een ti wen t s with respea to thegene-
defence of the Country on the English Local
Militia, He would now state his opinion of what
"alight to be done with a view to this subjea, in a
r,eneral manner, in.order that they may be consider-
(K.l previbus to the next Session. Buonapaite being
employed in advancing his pciwer by more near

and more certain means, de-sign of invading this
r(;!lntry was suspended, in order to be resumed_ in
a manner, and at a time, when it could be attempted
with, greater chance of a successful result. He ac-
knowledged that our numerical fame_ was amply,
sutlicient in extent, and in !arrangement as .nearly
perKt as it
.could be. He.saw nu
.reason why the
Training Art should not be adopted in Scotland as
well as in li.:tigland. But ti approved' of the ex-
tension of the Local' Miiitiq to Scotland. He en-
tered'into a comparative statement of all the plans
4.l4lence, and urged the necessity of submitting to
some rigprous system to enforce a training adequate
to the emergency. The severity of the French
ili:ary (ode tar exceeded that of ours ; and it was
only by a rigorous system that proper energy and
discipline could be established. He insisted on the

• vigorous system of preparation pursued by Buona-
parte, and expressed his convidion, that naval, as
well as military means of, invasiotr, v• uld be in a
few wears in the power of, that determined enemy.
He atherted to the situation, of Spain, and com-
mended the gallsntry and spirit displayed by the
Spanish people. He also praised the spiiit of the
Swedes ; but he did ,nnt think that much security
could be looked for to this country from either of these
qttatters. He stated the various escapes of the French
fleets from their ports, notwithstanding the' vigi-
Jance of our blockades, and from that he argued
the possibility of effeelim.a...descent on the British
Islands. Tim French, like the ancient Romans,:
transposed the men of nations, and made every
nitnon.the instrument cif the subjugation oranot her.
Mr. 'Yorke also expatiated on' the effed 'of the prac.•
Ike adopted by Btionaparte of- granting military fiefs
to his Gen`rals, and contended -that,, by the intro-.
chi9ion of that principle, in - one SUCCesgrui cain
hero th'e' ctieEts of the Norman Conquest
may be a second time realized. It Was n'Scessary, on
all these considerationa, to.thave Sueli'a-Military' or-
ganization 'as,would be amply adequate to oqr sje-
fence and deliverance, without at all calculating on
the Navy. The object, therefore, to he principally
attended to was, how the whole body of the people
could' be brought- had attion.if the occasion should
arise. And that objed, .he thought, vas not yet
provided fur. He was aware that much
1-. ads been done sin the-sway of fortification on the
eoriss ta.-01 Kent and. SilSse% ; but nothing iu pcoportien,
ie the vast auras voted for the ordnance service. He
meant to propose a Secret Committee to inquire in-
to this expenditure generally. He thought there
shotki be several lines. of posts and works between
the coast .and the centre of England ; at every NM-
Cessive chain of which a stand may be made, sup-
pihing us to be driven from that more advanced.—
He supposed Plymouth and Portsmouth were in a
pvrtett state of defence., But the Isle of Wight also
should be in a state of petted security. -Without a
perted facility 'of communication between the great
naval arsenals and the fleet, the serviceA. of the Navy,
could not be perfectly provided for: He Icareit that
the,coasts- of Essex 'were not ,as well defended as
those of Kent and. Susse?‘.• He thought the same
degree of security ought to be extended to these
coasts and the coasts of Scott iad. He tbiTtigtit it
e'Asential • that' the cormnunication between Great

itcitain and Ireland should always be kept open, and
therefore that all the pointy of intercourse on the
...Irish Channel should be fortified. The preservation
nf, the capitalwas' next to be attended to. He had
thought the fokification of London, unnecessary,
Austria and Prussia were unbroken, and the
weakness of Ilussia unproved. But. now Lis opinions
stvcre changed. with circumstances. Tie thought for-
tifications and facilities for.rnakini.?; a stand ought to
be established at several points between,London and
the coast. Ile adverted to the plan formed under
the administration of Lord Sitio-tomb, with the ap.:
ptobation of Loral cathcart, for eretiang fortifications
routt:l London itself, where the population of the
capif ai should be enabled to arrest the progress of the
enemy, if he'should advance so far. But supposing
London it,clf to bs reduced, he still: wished the
country toware* the aources of the Severn, the
Troll, and the _Mersey, where the hattieswonlsh
"he to :he fought,. to be strengthestied. anti he recotii..,
9-wntled to particular attention the posts of 'Glint-
cest9r, 'Worcester, and Tewkesbury. No country
could be defended withi,ut fortresses,. It Ma by
means of her fortresses that France was enat*d nut
only to repel invasion, but to achiFve
The length of tape ;bid 'Brannan. was rvt:iitivd by
i.tt.inap'.ate, and his prohibition of the erectiots of
t)t.tw fortrtoiss on pie Austrian kw:tiers', atter the
peace of Presburgh, sufficiently stewed the sense of
thdt great master of the art of war,On the.subjeet of
firti:lC4il(M.' it was Wiling 10 the state Lit the forto-
fications, that of all-:.the filissian. provinces, Silesia
alone was Ole to hilt ont..to the end of the war. It
was owing to tie want of fortified places that Rub-
si:. was can pelted to make peace after the battle of
Tilsit. Atter 'all iltese, examples, was the fate of
this'eountry,to be so tar end.qtgered .as not to take
piccaution4 so /....5,en631? A system of fortified
Lilly ;sot -coincide with the jealoosy of the
British nation with respe6t to its libertit:. But the
Circut!istances of the games 11PASt vrcume their jea-
-1011,4;4, as they aidthe Jealousy of a standing army,
91iCe 5e 011110XiOUS. He reC0111,1114:00t'd ilea t! ideas
to consideration, and hoped that no labour or ex-
pence yvpuld tie spared to lllStire the Sa!ety. ctf thy
c.:ol.llltry.. 1

LORI CASTI,BitpAGIi agreed with his Gilt Hon.
Fran4l, that the eirctitostatices ut the Country Here
pot qtAch 4 to Atintit,of h4,l\faj:.tsty' Minister; re-
p.);.:lg in a tall_ciotis Oat rather that th'cy
buch. .13 • w render 4oxessary every poibible

precaution against any sudden danger with which,
the country might be threatened. Still however"
he was unwilling that the country shOuld be dissa
tisfted, with what had been done, or that she etieni.y,
should believe we were in a state of: greater weak-
ness than what we really were. However extea7
sive the resources of a country,. it • was imp.ossible
that any one should start from a system in sonic de-
gree abhorrent to fortified defence, to that descrip,
tion of- 'defence which was only at present use'. in
countries to which it had long been familiar. What-
ever the country now 'possessed of fortification,' bad
been slowly •and recently 'acquired. His Right
Hon, Friend knew how low even. the Ordnance
Establishment stood before the present war, and it
was a matter of surprise that it had so soon reached
the standard at which it had now arrived ; a circum-
stance which sufficiently manifested the vigorous
efforts that had been made. But comparatively high
as the Ordnance Establishment now stood, still it
was very inadequate suddenly togive.the country an
extensive system of fortification, if such were de-
manded. :It could not be the work of a day ; it
ought not-to be capriciously adopted. It must be
the result of Tong/continued exertion ; it should pro-
ceed only upon a mature consideration of the neces-
sity of -the measure. If upon that mature consi-
deratiorithe Legislature should deem it expedient
materially and immediately to increase the fortifica-
tions of the country, the Executive Government
would be bdundto attend to that opinion. The
utmost exertions had. been made at Chatham, at
DoVer, and all the course of the Medway, to put the
• covering stations in the most complete state of de-
fence, as well as along the whole coast. No part
of the coast of France was by any means in the
state of defence in which our coast from Portsmouth
to the Thames had been put. The French batteries
on their coast, had been tonstruated, not to prevent
invasion, for to that they Were inadequate, but to
defend their trade. As to the other part of our
coast, measures had been taken to complete the de-
fence of it. When Lord Cluithatti left the Ord-
nance, the planswere completed for that undiertak-
. Mg. Without imputing any blame to the late Ad-
Ministration, be should only state that those plans
had oat been aged upon. During the present Set-
s* the necessary sums had been voted for the pur-
pose, and the plan would be immediately carried into
execution. Ott the coast of Ireland, and particu-
larly at Cork and Bantry Bay, a great deal had been
done to "increase the means of fortifteddefeaice,
Lord Chatham had also taken into consideratioalhe
internal fortified defence of Ireland, and on_ his re-
tiring from office, left in his bureau a plan for that
purpose. That plan was now acting upon. With
respeCt to fortifying the interior of this country, it
Was a much larger qu6iion, and he was sure his
Right lion. Friend would admit, that the' fortifica-
tion of the coast was qf More.pressing importance.
He only trusted that his Right Hon, Friend would,
not belit ve that, because no such idea had hitherto
been prosecuted, that the country was at all to bp ,
considered in a defeneeess state. -With respect to
the force to which the Bill before the House .innue-
diately applied, he had great. hopes that it might be
-made conveniently useful, as a complete sulstitute
for the volunteers, but he could 'nut think with his
Right Holt. Ftieod, that it c.,uld ever be made equal
to the regula-r This appealed to 4tini to be
physically impu,sibie, nor did it appear to him to be
at all advisable to angora di, regular it•ifitia into the
regular artny, unless ai,o' ,ier e could be provid-
ed to supplyits place, wine:, he did nut conceive to
be practicable. •

Mr.,,WiNDHAm did *not think that the Local IVII4
litia, with additton of Alfe fortifications recom-
mended by the Hight Hun. Gentle Man, would' be
ciimmensttrate'to the datiur of the Contitly,
the dectiis of which; he %mild nut then enter. A
greater question, however, than this of internal for,
tification, or One of mime important tea. • .('V, tt wag
'impossible to Conceive. There was no pun it uit
which. the .opittioits were so opposite. It Was uot
a local 'engineering question, but oce which ein-
Eiraced in it the whole sysieni of.our warfare.' Lie
entered into a deleilee 91 the Traininglinl, and 'tk-
precated the sudden subversion of the military sys-
tem of one Administration by the Adir':iiistrttion
that succeeded it. By the measures pursued by the
Noble• Lord, be had 'reduced the security 'in an
alarming degree. , He was apprehensive, that should.
it be deemed . advisable to adopt a wore extetthive
system ot. fortification, -the Noble Lord would mis-
take expencelor force.

Alter a tew observations from Mr. FIETtIIERT, 1110
tendency of which we could not Collect, the Bill
was read a third time, dnd passed.
The CIiANOnLLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave* 116,
lice, that be would on Thursday next submit a MO-
don to, th 4 How, the object of which would be to
To9nd a separate Rill upon the Resolution respecting
Mr, Palmer's Claim.

• IP answer to a question froth Mr. Whitbread,
.we understood the Chancellor of the Exchequer to
say, that he would also more the Appropriation Bill
on .
Mr. WINDHAM gave notice of a Motion for the
• next. Session, probably' when the ,Mutiay Act should
be before the Muse ; the objet of which would be
the proteaionof soldiers who had entered fel. limit-
ed service, in consequence of the regulations of the
year before last,. Hier proposition would be to pre-,
vent' such soldiers
.from consenting to extend their,
service for life until the expiration of the engage
nteot 'which they. had already contracted,
,
FrIPENDI•kRV CURATES'
The CHANCELLOR of. the EXCHEQUER having
moved the third rtrading of the Stipendiary Curates'
a tong discussion took 'place, in which all t!
former arguments or and against the Bill were,
again . repeated. The Bill was opposed by Mr. •
Barham, Lord Milton, Mr. Tierney, Mr. Windham,
Air. Dickenson, Dr. Lawrence, and Mr. Whitbread.,
The following Gentlemen strenuously supported
the measure--Mr. D. Browne, Mr. Stephen, and
Mr. M. ,Sutton.

• A diviimit then took pl tee:— . .
F‘ir the thud Keating, Ayes . 73
Agitinst it, Noes - .
. . 'AO
Miljr) rity . ------ 53
The Bill was read a third time: Whilst s;Nogers
were excloded atiothet -di; ision took place oii a
Clause by way of . rider, moved by Lord -Pox..
cnr.bv,ll :--
' 'For the Clause - • - 7
t.gainat it - '' .. 6
' ' Majority - —54
The Bill was then passcd. The other Wen Dl'

the My were then disposed of, and the House ad-
juilrntd at tialt. pabt

tiz.t I
Ait.R o— t Watcrt u Gottruiuegh, t Dublin,
. t 'Waterford.

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THE SUN.

ansm QUI' Die/AZ ITALSI:M AUDII/1.1"

LONDON,

TUESDAY, JUNE 21, 1808.

' We have received this morning the following
Letter from Cork :

" A number Transports arrived at Cove yester-
day, to receive the Troops forming the Expedition,
and their embarkation will,cotnmenca immediately.
The 2d Battalion of the .7th Foot, or Royal Irish
Fuzileers, an uncommonly fine Regiment, arrived
in the Transports, and marched in here yesterday.—,-
This day the 6th Battalion of the Moth Regiment
and the 71st were to embark. T4l-morrow the sth
and JBt 1) Regiments will embark; the latter arrived
this day, The embarkation of the whole will be
completed on the 17th inst. ,

" Sever's' of the homeward-Pound West India
Fleet have arrived in this I arbout. ; and a part of the
Fleet have pissed to the East ward destined for
England."

His Majesty's Ship Belle 110:41c. ith the . Fleet
under convoy fret-1i the, Mediterranean, sailed from
Portland Roads yesterday.

•
YESTERDAY Madrid Gazeiccs to the 20th uit.
reached Town, but they gives very little informa-
tion respeCting the stcte of ipain. They contain,
• hoWever, the formal bocldation of CHARLES IV.
by which he abdicates \,ho; Throne of Spain, and
also the renunciation by the Prince Of ASTURIAS,
and the Infants C'ekat..o3 and ANTONIO, of their
claims to the euccession. The latter documents at).-
peared in THE Suit of the 2d, iusthot ; the former
will be found in aistibsequent column.
No further intelligence has reached Town from
Cadiz(rallan opinion seems to prevail, that, in
conseiiienee of the failure of the Negotiation with.
the Governor of Cadiz, General. SPECEIt had
thought proper to return .with the Troops to Gib-
raltar. When the' last official accounts left the
Fleet, 'General SPENCER certainly had not returned
to Gibraltar,: we shall, however, not be' surprised to
hear that he had adopted that mealure, beause, In
the event of the PeOple of. Cadiz wishing to avail
themselves of British assistance (which there is
strong reason to think they will do when they are
acquainted with wiiitlias passed in the Norlhern
Provinces), he could return to Cadiz in three or
f lt is said 'that the Governor-General
of Andalusia has acknowledged 'the authority of
General MU RAT, and has circulated his Proclanaa-
lions ; and hence it is inferred that the whole Pro,-
vinee of Andalusia is determined to submit to 800-
NAPARTE. We must, however, again remind our
Ileaders, that when these tiansaaions took place in
that Province, the • Governor-General and the Inha-
biiants were totally unacquainted witli the determi-
nation ".of their Countrymen in. the North; and

though they might nut think it prudent to oppose
themselves singly to' the power of litioNAP,ukTs, it
by no means follows that they would not join their
Countrymen, if they found the spirit of resistance
general. In the mean time, the Government of this
Country is taking the most effedual means to give
assistance o the Patriots of Spain. Above 40,000
pikes, and 5000 stand' of arms, were shippe-; ‘t,
Friday from Plymouith, besides an immense ;°I:M-
-tity of ammunition. A • very considerable d_etacli-
ment of Artillery hav6 received orders to embark at
Portsmouth. •

ANtoNo all the absurd charges which the Opposi-
tion Writers bring against Mittisteri, one of the most
extraordinary is contained in a Paper of this day.
The Writercomplains " that all the real business of
the Staters postponed to that seasonof.the year when
the benches are comparatively deserted, and when
the independent Country. Gentlemen, in particular,
are almostto a man withdra*wn from attendance."
Now, granting
.that the real business of the State
%vett, indeed, postponed, we should be glad to know
where the fault flies, except in the Patrons of
those Writers, who, finding they could 'not re-
fute The arguments of Ministers, have.endea-
vowed to destroy their constitutions,. by _such pro-
.
ceedings 4s are of no use in the world, and only cal-'
ctilated to prevent the operations of Government
from being carried on with 'One aelivity and vi-',
goor.. But we haye.the happiness of being able to
;Lisure the Public, that notwithstanding all those
fruitless and vexatious proceedings, „Ministry harp
not rellxed from their duty, but have adopted mea-
..,
sure 4 of the inmost importance to their Country, in
'spite of all the obtacleS thespirit of Parry has
ztturved tO tlie;r vtoy. 4 the iudern-

dent country Gentlemen have indeed weArial
out by these party measure's, wbere is the wonder
Trey have listened till. their patience and their
Mrength are wholly exhauited, and 4 they retire it ii
because they see no end to such a warite of tirye,aud such
an interruption of public . business, and because thl
knew that' they cap safely entrust the concerns of the
State to the men tO:whorn his Majesty has submitted
them, and who, by their zeal, ability, and perbe-
verance, are likely ,to defeat the malice of our Ene-
my, and maintain the national interest and honour.

Sunday evening their MAJESTIE4 and PR tcsiirss
walked on Windsor Terrace, accoknpauied by FArl
AYLESFORD, the Marquis of BATH'S. daughter;
La lies CAIZOLINA WA LDEGRAVE, BULIC.RLEY, alld
CUMBERLAND ; Count MUNSTER, and Colonel DES'
BROW. A very genteel company of both sexes
crowded the Terrace, whilst the bands of the poyal
Horse Guards (Blue) with their silver drums, and
the tafford Militia, played several martial and other
pieces till nine o'clock.
Yesterday morning his MAJESTY, Princesses
L:"
GL' TA, SOPHIA, and AMELIA, accompanied by, idj(l7
ALBINA CUMB:::RLAND, COLIIA.MUNSTBR; Generals
FITZROY, GARTH, Hon. Mr. VILLIF.RS, and Celeeei
TAYLOR, rode in Windsor Great Park, and returned
at twelve o'clock to the Palace,
On Sunday afternoon, at three o'clock, the Frill'
cess of WALes arrived at Kensington Palace) e
tended by two Ladies. Her Royal Highness, atter
viewing the alterations and improvements inakiag
fur her reception, walked in the private and plibliu
gardens, and appeared much amused at the mac*
rolls company.
The Duke of YORK dined with the LORD I\TA"/
yesterday. • His Bois' Highness left town this inure-
ing, for Oatlands, for the purpose of atteediog As'
cot Heath Rims..
Lard MULGRAV2 will entertain a grand party to
dinner on Monday next, Mins' house in the .(1.
tuiralty.
The . Portuguese Nuncio is to set put at tile eol
of the present week fur the Brazils. 'The Sfore`
Sloop is under orderii to carry his Reverence to ni°
de Janeiro.
Gei,eral Domotieree has certainly, offered to take
the command of the Patriotic Army of Spain.
tterlrfOltehreialietr%l7 ihhla're7cegia, Leta inneslteitii:'iliotndti°°;
the Sons of the Clergy, and a number of the' Nobi‘
lity and Gentry. .
Sectworta FSra.—.-Yesterday the Countess ei
DARTMOUTH gave a grand Dejeune, at his Lord-
ship's house on Blackheath. At about half slier
twelve o'clock t he-Duchess of BauNSW JCR and 'the
Princess of WALits were handed from their earriagef.
by. the Earl of DAaTmotrrit, kilo the dining r 00,1.11,
K here about twenty-m.O pejo" of he first
tin lion sat thwu to breakfast. There were soveol
marquees in the garden tor the reception of the 1%
merous and fashionable party th.tt tioated r" '.l
elegant. Fete. The Officers of the
Militia were invited, their Band plifyed on ey'
during the greater part of . the. day, and the Gl'en3"
diers atied as- a goard'or honour round the preinio
in incid to tae'thitinguishericenap aey...aoat°
prevent the candille frore.tearing down the palins'
to get a close view of the company, which rheY
otherwise would haVe (lane. Tile guests were of the
most distinguished rank ; they were supposed t°
to
amount to nearly 1000, and they continued
flock in from twelve at noon to five n'dock tho
aftereoon. We't Lumen
-‘ The following articles appeared in a Dutch NIT'
of the 10th instant
- " A-camp is to be 'formed near Berlin of 40°a
Vrench Troops. Vaiiour (
reasons are assigned. -
French say, to ease the inhabitants.) itt
" A:National Guard is about to be orgoiied
. .
the Austrian Dominions, similar to that adolit..--'1411,,,,
France. A Fortress 'of the first class is. to be ID!".

i - •
in Hungary. '. . • 111
I * of The FrenchFrenchMinister for the Colonies lifts se%
Ia message to the Board of Commerce at Bnurde311 ;
! ordering that all Vessels bound to the Co!wile, illus
take on board from '3O to 50 Soldiers. accordiPg o°,
the site of the Vessel; until to 000 men sivil ba,
been in this manner conveyed to the Wostini''':.o'
The Spanish Guar has received orders will'
the army ot BRIINADOTTZ in I-lol,tein, and-11'1'16e'
, tan its inar:4l." .
. It is strongly reported at Amsterdam, that M"
'
trig and Russia are about to enter into a very" clOO
alltahee.
'lO
! . Extra& of a Letter received on Thursday tot ' '
Glasgow, from i respectable 'Merchant in GOfien'

burg:h:
OTTENIWROR: JUNE 6, .1808.---04 Pal°
G
army in Finland dues wonder'. The Itussiani i''',,e
proi?isiiins, and they are in full 'retr at. our '4llt. •
beendefeated in four engagements. We have la._,l`e"; ..
they
ntieNy ov:ii4liaytitllideesr itn.,kac,,iivleo-iiiiitipniresteitilit
a great, many pieces at caution, eol,onig, and all ell
under General Mooas, go there to.ca-operate 01111
them. Meantime the Norwegians are d`"„Y!
beaten as often as -they return to shack o.lr reef
On the eV!) May, 8000 Norwegians vale t'''''t-,;
with the loss of /heir artillery, by .Colonel 13801-:
STEIO,4 with only his own- re4itnent, 1000 stoi;
In. Qiand and Gal bland; all the --11ussiatissate to'.
prisoners. We are now raising 60,000 nev., troo7l
SQ that we are perfeCtly tranquil. It is said thlatd
Colonel Ijiattrirso took the command at Swelinorsl;
and defends the, place with much bravery. lif it
t
not say what credit is due to this aciount, but 11
;th'ittliigiiigthig)tit:tg•c. el!.
is true, we have lost very little as yet by the cats
pato...
earti
A Duel was intended to have taken piece, .0
. yesterday morning, on Clapham Common, helwef,
t WO, Gentlemen %OA) arc 'junior partners in rell'eei
..
able Mercantile Houses in the City, owing tblica
dispute that originated on Saturday last at 3 Pu tbd
dinner. But intimation of-their intentions, in 0
interim,
.came to the knowledge of one of theiirnicy..•
Connections, who, in cnnse • - d'spatcheul). '
quence, i d atter
Pet persons to' the place of meeting; 'an , .r
thel
Tvg,ittPg till the arrival of the parties, they' by . :
iptcrprence. prevented the tneetingtaking Place..o
Tie Spanish Gentleman who arr. ed in the
FeSt.a'r ,14,
Frigate, left lOWA 14s1 night, to embaembarkP)r. v,./
. The gentlemen of the Sp•misli ciao are "" g' 00
dinner irl a ttw d3ya tt) Count ,AlAVEltos,t, at
1,9u,d0n lives..