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Friend' (Lord Auckland), in repreienting the 040
in Connell4.wboily unintelligible, and wishatheY
had been accompanied 'with a tianslation,like the
other:;_ Papers that. beett'faid on the table ;
bnt:.4,-had also tO ins* on their ,illegality, and of,
the necessity of producing the eiplanations;4 bid),
after the promulgatidn of the French Decree of -No-
vember last, had been given at Paris to the American I
Minister by the French Government; —With-oat-that •
explonition, it was iipposible to, kiow.74avirtb4
views-`ref the french Government were in' issuing:
that Decre,, '.end without that knowledge, wo
to tinc.i4Nanaamanner iqiWbieh it was
intended that the Piders!iti Council ''
were to cohn-,
terad the operationsof the French Decrec't
planation he wished 'l,ot,inight, no. ;doubt, be had
from:some cif t tvliiiisters of the Neutral Powers
residing'in this ,Country, as it was welik,noytin that
it had- been communicated to Mr,''Arnistron,,,a at
Paris; and was no doubt communicated to the Mini-
sters of other Neutral Powers. - His- Majesty's Mi-
nisters must also•be sensible, that. the Orders- in
Council were violations.of-the Law of Nations, and
of the municipal laws of the land ; and he should be
glad to know, if, under that impressinn twas not
their intention to apply to Parliament fer an At of
Indemnity. , .
. -Lord 1141FICESEVRY was not aware that any
such explanation wa* in the possession of .1-sis Ma-
jesty's Ministers ; or that if it- was, bow it could be
produced in any regular shape or foriu.—As to the.
illegality of the Orders in Council, it was possible
that they -were literal violations of the existing
laws ; .but the new circumstances in which the ciatn-
.merce of the world had been-placed since the last ,1
Session of. Parliament, had created a case that fully '
explained the necessity elsuch MeasureS,,and mants
felted their propriety. It was therefore possible that
Ministers would apply to Parliament for a Bill of
Indemnity.
Lord <I UCK,L,IND again adverted to the intelli-
gibility of the. Orderii, and .to' the ruinous effeas
which We)/ must produce on our commerce, These .
.he would exemplify fur the present in three points,
ist, The opening of a trade with Jersey and Gnerti-
sey; which. if persevered in, must cut up the Re-
venue by the roots.-2dly, The opening of the,fkorts
of Malta and Gibraltar ; and. 3dly, The permission
afforded to Anieriea to trade witicour colonies. As
to the papers be had - moved for, he should not now.
press his Motion, only in the ho'pe, however, that
the Noble Secretary would_ upon retleetion,' and
. after a ,few days re-consideration, consent - to'iiroa
duce them, otherwise he should then renew his
Motion. '

Zhe CHANCELLOR of . the EXCHEQUER
fert, necessary to apprise the House of the coprse
.he ptiiiposed to follow with respeEt to the Bill which
he had brought itilst Session, for the bettllegu-
lat ion of the 14 ode;gf Colic :Sling the Assesag;Taxes.
It would be rFeolTered thk he had,, in fife former
1 Session, brought in this Bill with an intention.th

suffer it to lie over to the present Session,
_in order'
to litoW 'titile for -theist Olt Were carry .
ckeenttoit to, take its pr s into their considera-
tion.t and to fOrrn their judgment
_upon its expe-
diency. For': this purpose. it. ,had been printed and
circtipted thioughout.the,COuntrt• and he had;then
to state, that; during„the recess, ge. had :received:

nombercif. communications from various (loaners,
many -of them entitled to the highest attention, ob-

jeding to some of the, provisions of the Bill. He
had taken these communications into his most se-

rious 'consideration, and the result was, thaflie felt
it . would not be desirable to retain, ;lie Obnoxiout'

clauses it the Bill ; it was therefore not his inten-:
lion to proceed further with that Bill, but as soon

as it could be're-cast, -be should move for leaye to

bring it in. clear of the clauses 'most objeEted to.
Lord. 11-1. PETTY took that 'occasion- to, put a
question to the Right I-lon Gentleman opposite.
That Right Hon. Gentleman bad fixed a day for re.*
ferring the Orders of Council presented yesterday to
the Committee of Ways and Means, but he had not
stated 'on Whatday he proposed to move for leave
to bring in the .1114'01)4y, which-le-bad
stated his , jntention to bring forward, for certain
gis done by Ministers tinder these Orders of Coun-
cil. It was- desirable that the House shotil,l be ap-
prised of the'day on which this question should ..be
brought forward, because, whenever is gh iltt be
under discussion, the House would have:to:cor?Sider
it in two points
.of. view ; first, whether the imme-
diate necessity was such as to entitle his glitjety's
Minbiters-to the* indemnity they claimed ; and iq
the event of its being so considered, whether that
necessity was sufficient to cover all the violatio.ns of
law committed by them, under the Otders of
Council.

k •
The ciiiiNCE4L OR of the EXCHEQUER
did not know what answer -;to give to the Noble
Lord, because he could not collet.t what was tin.: rib-
jett of his inqUiry. He had undoubtedlYiiVeti
lice, that he should, on Wednesday, move to'refer
the Orders of CounCil to a Committee 'of Ways and.
Means ; he had certainly declared, that it was not
his Intention to propose any Bill of Indemnity for
issuing the Orders of Council, because he was'pef:
waded there was nollegality in '• the. transa6liou.—
But thereltad been perm tneasurett resorted - to ,in
coe•equence of these Orders of Council, which re-,
quired indemnity from Parliament, for those who'
had been concerned in advising. and wait% upOn"
them:' It was not an unusual proceeding, not with.
the preient ~Government,..but with any,, to issue
Orders of Council concerning matters, and he would
beg of the Noble, Lord to restrain his 'judgment
till he should know more fully the 'nature of those
proceedings for which it was proposed to apply, for a
1 Bill of Indemnity: One of 'those was a mere mea-
sure adopted reseeaieg , goods imported •on the oc-
i casion from. Portugal. From the- hurry-, in' which
British subje&s brought themselves and their goods
away from. Portugal, it was impossible' to provide
native shipping. They took advantage of Neutrals
to convoy themselves and
,their property to Great
Britain. It was thought but just to issue Orderi to
the Officers of the Customs to' permit those gooda
to be landed, and, as by the. Navigation' Laws they
could net be legally :imported, except in, British
Ships or POrtuguese Vessels, it became therefore ne-
cessary to get an indemnity for the transadtion.-;
This 's is but one of the measures which
.required
that, an Aet of Indemnity should be applied for, end,
he trusted the House would be, of opinion; that:
this was a case which entitled- the prr4on4
corned to protection. Again he 'had to repoaL-that'
the. Orders in .Council, were' not cotitriO. to laeyr
and did not consequently require any Bill of In 4,
deinnity.
Lord Hrontir PETTY (after a gentle hint from the
• Chair, that there was no Question before the House)
apologised to the Right Hon. Gentleman for riot
having more distinctly put his 'question. He had
the satistaaion,, however, to learn what his'ques-
tiun to obtain, in the explanation given by'the
Right Hon. Gentleman, that it Was pet his Intent,
tiou to move for an ACt *Of indemnity to cover the
illegality of any of the Orders of CounciL
The CHANCELLOR of the Exeut.:Quaft , again re-i:
peatedi, that be•had never stated any Antentron to
bring in a Bill of Indemnity for the Orders of Coun-.
cil, because they involved nu violation ofAilW, and
could not consequently require any inderrinification-
Jor the parties who had advised them: What he had
'stated -was, that certain measures, had beeb adopted:
under these Orders of Council. which required in.,
detnnity, and it was for those measures th4t the Bill',
he proposed to bring in was to' indemnify the per,,
suns who had any share in them, .
Mr. Wattogave notice, that he should on Friday
, next move the Numaer; of'Seamen for the Service
,I,of the present Year.—Adjourned. •

•
Lord BA7'IIURST shortly explained Upon the
pointsalltided to by the Noble Lord (Auckland).—
The first: ..was Sufficiently to be 'understood from the
documents hefote the House. The-second was in-
tended to facilitate tad with Spain, Portugal, and
generally with the. Mediterranean.. The third was
an, ,indulgence which* under the .present .circum-
stpces wah thought advisable to gratt the Ame-
ricans. .

Lord GRENPILLE loudly inveighed agaifist the
illegality of the Orders.in ;Council. .He could not
think it Willi so intended': but the hew sy.tent now
attempted to hu 'set, Was"' the most flagrant viola-
tion of every law that any Minister ever 'ventured
on since the reign of James 11, and twist end in the
complete ruin of the commerce of the country,
Lord HAWKESEURY contended, that the
measures so reprobated by the Noble Baron, Would,
upon a fuller explanation of their principles and
,operations, appear -to deservea verrdiflerent charac-
ter and.that so far from being injurious,
,t.hey, would
be shown to have proved beneficial to the trade of
the country. Adjourned..

HOUSE' OF COMMONS.

WEDNESDAY, JAN. ;27.

.Mr. Rose, in pursuance of his notice on the subject
of the ,Attiericm intercourse Bill, moVed, that the
House do to-tiferrow . resolve itself into a' Committee
of the Wirok'House, th'consider of theioid, Bdl. • He
shohld cooti.nt himself .for the present with,simply
,moving to that eife6t, but he proposed to submit
:such observations as he had to otfer on the' subjea
to7motrow in the. Committee. The MotioreevaS
then put and :greed to. •
Several' Election Pet4ions were presented, end
ordered to be, taken into consideration tin the follow-
ing.days respaiively.:—Saltash, ou -the right, and
-Saltash•double return., on the same days as former,
Petitions Of a similar description frftio (oat Borough.
Bridgewater, Thorsviay, , March ininster,
T...uay, march ii(2.—Qhrist Church, Duugarvori;
Tuesday, March 9.9.--eNewry, Thursday, March 3 t.
On the li.totion of Mr..SWAN, pursuant to notice,.
time Peiitio'n3 against the Double Return for Saltaste
were put otfefrom Tuesday, February 2, to Thurs.
'day, February 23, in.order to allow priority to; the
Petitiotis en the right, •
The Bill for the Prevention• of the Grant. of
Places or Offices in Reversion was, on the Motion
of Mr. BANKER, read a second time, and ordered to
be committed to-morrow.. •.
Mr. Jonr4sToNe broeght, rip the Repeat. of the
Coinniittee on the question of granting a SuPply to
his M:Jesty the Resolution was agreed to,,nemine.
contrarlio:nte, and it was ordered' that the House
should -reiolve; itself' into a Comtuittee of the whole. I LISBON, Dec: B.—On Monday the 13th instant,.
House on' Friday tutxt, to consider of the Supplito ; about five' n the evening, the popelaee unexpeded-
'be grafted to 11. e, Majesty. • • lytolle6ted together in the two principal squares of
Ordered-, en the Motion of Mr. WARD, that there 1 the city, so that for seine moments a ,serious
be laid .before the House en Estimate of the ordinary ' molt was 'apprehended.. in an instant-French troops
tixpencciof the Navy, for the Service of the Year • and Portoguese cavalry and infantry were, sent to
1808. Altee of the Expence of Fialf,pay qificers , restore peace a.nd order. The remaining- troops
and Marines who had been .employed during last which were dispersed in the city, found themselves
War— iAlso of .The.Charges,that would he necessary e necessitated' to fire.. They , remained' forty-eight
for buildin,, re-building, and repairing. Ships of ' hours under arena, as The mob incessantly. endea-
, War, o‘',er abote what would be necessary foe `4 voured to renew the disturbance. At
,last, after
the Wear :midi Tear of his Majesty's Navy. A4O thirty:eight of the ringleaders had been taken into
the uru.ii Annual 4%6=110 for Geerdeend.Gavii- custody, the military gained a victory.. The General
sinus y Ordeance Seiviceeieeerred.and not provided has .adopted the sever at measures to prevent .or
• for.hg Parliament probable Expellee ut 'irapsikort punish 41 farther viohttioos.of the peace. •
Serviee i• litre of Transports, ..Navy.Debt oirkle- ROME, Due. 18,—A busy activity still prevails in
ney tttcos,aty for Service of Prisoners of War in the'Office of our Secretary ofState, and it is said
health, and of. sick Prisoners of War, for the Year' that the Papal Dominions are about to undergo a very'
1806..
t great change.....
An Address was then ordered to his Majesty, MANTUA, Dec. 25.—At the time of tne Empe-
' that he would be graciously pleaSed to give direct ton; passing through, the SenatOr LUCIRN &lONA-
lions that the. proper Oefieertedo lay the same before 'PARTE had a personal Conference with his illustrious
that .House. The Address. was ordered to `.be. brother, and then returned .to Rome.
is
preSen PARISte4 by such of the Members as are of his , JAN, 9, 11 Huai Highness Prince Wre-
i Majesty's Privy Council. LIAM of Prussia, brother of his Prussian Majesty, is

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