The Sun.
London, England, 1830-08-21 00:00:00

COMMISSION OF LUNACY.

(Continued from our Paper of yestorday.)
Mr. Hughes examined by Mr. TADDY—Witness
was the medical attendant of Mr. Brand. Had
known him personally for two years. Mr. Brand
was very delicate in his manners. He thought. Mr.
Brand's mind altered, from the strange request be
made on the death of Mrs. Dash wood, to take his
wine in the same room with the corpse and to lay,
beside it at night. Witness attended Mrs. Dash.
wood. Her death was occasioned by a fall down
stairs. Thought Mr. Brand's mind changed imme-.
iiiately after. He frequently complained of confu-
sion of ideas. Said be had frequently seen deceased
persons, particularly Mrs. Carr, whom :he had seen
three times in one day; also a celebrated chess-
player, who had lived in the King's Bench. Thought
parties dead one moment; and alive the next. Fre-
quently believed he was the object of unnaturatat-
tempts, and asked witness if there were persons of
a certain description in that neighbourhood.—(The
evidence at this part is of such a nature that it can-
not be published.)—Witness went on to say that he
wished to bleed Mr. Brand, who declined it, saying
he was in perfect health. This was in June last.
Recollected being sent for on the 14th of June,
when witness was desired to bleed Mrs. Brand " be-
cause she was crazy." Mrs. Brand said it was Mr.
Brand who ought to be bled, for he was crazy."
Mr. Brand complained of conspiracies, and men-
tioned that a commission of lunacy was to be at-
tempted against him ; that Dr. Paris and Dr. 13a-
bington had visited him, that a man had come with
a straight waistcoat, and that Alderman Wood was
there, but that he (Mr. Brand) had ordered them all
nut of the room; that after an altercation, Mr.
Brand had said, " $o help him God, he should
never speak to Mrs. Brand again, except on busi-
ness;' Witness stated, that Mr. Brand had said
he saw Mrs. Carr and Mrs. Dashwood sitting in the
street window. In Muy, 1827, witness attended
Mr. Brand in a fever; he suffered under extreme
debility at that time.
By Mr. Brand—Witness considered Mr. Brand
very delirious at that time. He had gone to vote at
the Cambridge election without his (witness's) con-
sent.

Mr. Brand—Do you think it quite impossible for
we to quite recover ?—Witness—l do not.

By the COURT—It was first in September that
be discovered a confusion of ideas. lirs.Brand was
very violent, which tended to injure the mind of
Mr. Bra►rd. On witness's first visit after the mar-
riage, he found Mr. Brand under great mental ex-
citement. He talked incoherently of pictures he
had seen. lie said he saw Mrs. Carr there, and
Mrs. Dashwood there (pointing to the wall) Wit-
t►ess heard such expressions more than once. Witness
had not seen Mr, Brand till yesterday, since the
16th June, Mr. Bramd would not submit to any
medical treatment. Witness thought Mr. Brand in.
the same state of mind as in May last; saw no alte-
ration; thought Mr. Brand still a lunatic, and had
not the least doubt that he was unable to
govern his property or his affairs. Witness
thought Mr. Brand a lunatic with lucid intervals;
at particular periods he had lucid intervals. Yes-
terday witness thought so, but those intervals had
not occurred so often to-day. Witness thought
Mr. Brand might be able to .write a letter, but in
five minutes he would be again unwell.
A gentleman here interrupted the proceedings.—
He said he wished to ask the witness a question.
The CittEr? COMMISSIONIM-4114 is a solemn in-
quiry, and the proceedings cannot be interrupted.—
Who are you 1 Are you a witness ?—The.party
referred to said he was a member of the College of
Surgeons. He wished to be a witness.

the CHM CommlsstoNEß—We will hear you
presently.
Mr. Brand—You say my mind wavered. Do you
think a man is mud because be alters his mind ?
Witness—No.

By Mr. Sergeant 'PADDY —Witness considered
those lucid intervals when Mr. Brand was in full
possession of his reason. lie thought Mr. Brand
was now a lunatic, because he saw him frequently
Laughing during this inquiry. No sound minded
man would do so.

By the Jury—This is the only reason I think so.
The member of the College of Surgeons who
volunteered as a witness was here called, hut he bud
left the room.

Mary Petet was re-called and questioned by the
Jury—She had peeped through the key-hole of her
master's room at Sutton, because he rang the bell
and would not open the door.
James-Miles was culled and examined by Mr%
AUSTlN—Witness was gardener to Mr. Brand; re-
collected Mrs. Dashwood's death; She was buried
in 'lewdly churchyard, near Sutton, in a brick grave.
Was desired by his master to watch the grave; did
so alternately for 1.5 weeks. . Mr. Brand directed
him to take care the body was not taken away; had
never heard of bodies being stolen from the church-
yard; since the death of Mrs. Dash wood bud thought
Isis master's mind not at ease ; had seen him crying,
and thought ail was not right; saw him talking its
the patienr before a closet to himself; had received
orders for sowing seeds which his mmter after Wards
had declared witness bad forgotten; had watched
him in the plantations, fearing some harm would
come to him. llis master had become short iii his
memory.
By Mr. Brand---Always considered his master's
memory better than his (witness's). lie was liable
to have forgotten about the seeds. Thought Isis
muster's health better than it had beers.

' By the Cotmlle 'bad received orders to Wateh
the grave from his master. Had 33. per week extra
For it.

By Mr. Brand—Had never seen but one person
in the churchyard. Had once seen Mr. Brand there
Mr. B. it. Nodder, Governor of Tothill.fields
prison, was next culled in and examined by mr.
AusTINT.---Witness had had Mr. Brand in cuttody
for an moonlit upon a Mr. N. Harris. The commit-
ment was dated 20th July. Had received a 1101 u
from Mr. Brand. Afterwards witness met Mr.
Brand, and in reference to its contents, said he was
not accustomed to be desired to do such things.—
(This had reference to a sight of the commitment.)
Mr, Brand replied, '1 1 then desire you to do so,"
and walked away. Afterwards, Mr. Brand addressed
letters to the Duke of Wellington and Mr. Peel.
(The letters were put In end read. They were
proved to be in the handwriting of Mr, Brand,)
The letter to the Duke of Wellington was to the
effect that Mr. Brand considered his Grace guilty of
illegal and unjust conduct in detaining him (Mr.
Brand) is prisoner, and wished his Grace to name
weapons, a time and place, in order that he (Mr.
Brand) might receive the satisfaction of a gentle-
man. The letter stated that Mr. band bad been
separated for ever from his wife, and that his eon-
fieement was in opposition to the express promise of
his Grace.
Two other letters were read from Mr. Brand to
Mr. Nodder, stating that he (Mr. Brand), was con-
fined unjustly, and requesting Mr. Peel to be made
acquainted with his determination to have the parties
imprisoning him punished. The next letter read
was addressed to Mr. Peel, requesting the limn°
Secretary to obtain his (Mr. Wend's) liberty. That
he concluded there was no order fer his committal.
No answer being received by Mr. Arend, he again
wrote to Mr. Peel, as (OHMS Release me from
prison, or, by you shall answer for it, You

alien have a bullet in your head, 01 one in mine. $o
tend to it."

Witness was again examined—Mr. Brand after.
wards met witness, and asked him if his name was
Yodeler or Kiss"- if he recollected; years ago,
ho (Mr. Brand) had kicked him out of a house.
Witness had:never been kicked out of a house.
By Mr. Brand—Witness had refused to give Mr.
Brand the order of commitment, but said a copy
might be had. Had released Mr. Brand under
proper authority, by.tin order signed by Mr. White,
the Magistrate.

Mr. Brand—Were you authorized to give me
into the custody of the two men ? Witness—l had
a regular order forlour discharge.
Mr. Brand—Do you call it a discharge from
custody to be given over to two men who put a
straight waistcoat on me ? Witness—l discharged
you regularly.
Mr. Brand—Were you never Licked out of a room?
Witness—Never. Perhaps it might be a difficult
thing to do.

Litters were here read from Mr. Brand to his
friends dated in May, in which he says he has dis-
covert:l a conspiracy against him. That his friends
had proved scoundrels.
Mr. John Davies called—ls a surgeon and
apothecary, near Sutton; attended Mr. Brand on
the 21st July last; thought his manner peculiar.
Vir. Brand had been to Paris; said to witness, that
the French people, he thought, looked very odd,
that they changed their countenances, were jesuitical,
and --- in their appearance; they had a strange
way of going into ~the ground in one place, and
coming out at another place a quarter of a mile clic-
taut ; saw him on the 26th July at Holmes's hotel,
Parliament-street, Westminster; refused to take
food, except from witness. Dr. Paris and one of
the keepers were present, Mr. Brand said, that the
keeper threatened to throw him out of the window,
and that the keeper belonged to a nameless class of
persons.._

Mr. Brand—Pray, Sir, is your name Levies or
Davies ? Witness, (smiling.)—Davies, Sir.
Mr. Brand—Pray, Sir, are not you reckoned a
strong likeness of Mr. Bailey, the master of the
ceremonies at Margate ?—Witness did not know
that person, therefore could not say.
Mr. Brand (rather ceremoniously)--I have no
more questions to put to the witness.
By Mr. PIIILLIMORE--Witness did not think Mr,
Brand in a sound state of mind, from what he (wit.
ness) had observed during the investigation.
Mr. Brand—l beg pardon. Did you (to witness)
ever see a person in sound mind that you could not
drive to madness in three minutes if you chose ?
Witness--No.

Mr. Brand—Did you ever try ? Witness—No.
Dr. Paris examined—More patients of the same
description as Mr. Brand had fallen to witness's lot
than most medical professors in London. Witness
had known Mr. Brand ten years; thought him ee-
, centric. When Mr. Brand's insanity was stated to
him (witness), he was not astonished ; he was pre-
pared for it from a previous knowledge of Mr. Brand's
disposition; saw him recently at his lodgings, at Cam-
berwell, in conjunction with Mr. Alderman Wood.
Mr. Brand was much excited, and was continually
ringing for wine; had bad two pints of sherry before
witness's arrival. Alderman Wood insisted that no
more wine should be given to Mr. Brand, upon which
he came down stairs and appeared to be in a passion.
Asked if Alderman Wood were a magistrate ? being
told in the affirmative, he vociferated, " Clear the
way clear the way for the magistrate!" and swing-
ing his arms about at the same time, struck Dr. Paris,
which caused his nose to bleed. Witness then gave
Mr. Brand into custody, but Mrs. Brand coming
down stairs crying, stated that there was nothing the
matter with Mr. Brand, witness let him alone.
Witness saw Mr. Brand again on the 27th of July
last ; said he (Mr. Brand) had been at Paris, and had
been tined 40 francs for throwing tea things" at
the head of a waiter; said if he had killed him he
should not have been fined at all; be also said he had
discovered the existence of an association of Jesuits
and persims of a nameless character; also that the
French were a strange people, diving under ground
in one part, and appearing again in another. Witness
was of opinion that Mr. Brand was of unsound mind.
He preferred wearing a straight waistcoat to being
placed under the care of two keepers. Bad said that
he should get the better of the present investigation,
Ind that he then should tell the jurors that they were
all --

Mr. Brand—How. could I say that of persons I
never saw ? Dr. Paris—Cannot tell.
By Mr. Serjeant TARDY--Witness is satisfied,
that from what he had seen during the present in-
vestigation, Mr. Brand is of unsound .mind, and not
liable to lucid intervals. It was quite consistent for
persons of Mr. Brand's description to behave them-
selves with propriety when under the eye of their
keepers; did not think Mr. Brand able to conduct
his own affairs; thought so from his g4neral conduct,
and particular parts of it ; also from his countenance
and expressions.—Adjourned.