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peered to be so much for a reduction to one penny that he
thought her Majesty's Ministers had done right in propos-
ing a measure to that affect. He feared, however, that
the Noble Duke would prove to be accurate in his
tatement that it would take at least a million
of money to meet the expenditure that would be
necessary to carry on the new system annually. It
was not to be forgotten that this country was
alreody very much in debt. After a peace of from twenty-
five to thirty years scarcely one farthing of the debt had
been paid off that existed at that time, while America had
liquidated all, and France had done much towards it. This
was what be would call a profligate system of finance. It
was essential that the financial state of this country ought
to be seriously considered, and fairly put before the
country. As to the re-payment of any deficiency, he be-
t: eyed the Noble Viscount considered that an essential
part of the Bill, and he hoped there would he no excuse
made in that respect by the other House, or that the people
would object to making up any deficiency, recollecting, as
they must, that they hAd had the benefit of it. With
these observations he should cordially support the passing
of the present Bill, believing, as he did, it would confer a
very great benefit on society. He should anxiously watch
its operations.

Lord MANVERS said that this, in his opinion, was a
very injudicious measure, under existing circumstances,
and that if he should stand alone he should say " Not
content" when the question that the Bill be read a second
time was put.
Lord LICHFIELD said that he should certainly
vote for the second reading, but he could not give a silent
vote on the occasion, as it had been circulated that he was
opposed to this experiment. His opinion certainly was
that there would be a considerable loss by its adoption.
He thought so upon an examination of Mr. Rowland
Hill's original plan. But he should vote for this
Bill upon totally and entirely different grounds
to those on which Mr. Rowland Hill's plan was
originally proposed. He should vote for it on the grounds
proposed by his Noble Friend below him, and proposed by
the House of Commons—not with a view that the county,
would eiteer be a gainer by it or that as much revenue
would be derived from it as was now obtained, but because
the demand for it had been so universal. On that ground
he felt it to be highly expedient that the measure should
pass. The people seemed to feel this tax to be so ob-
noxious that they would submit to it no longer, but if ne-
cessary consent to another of a different description in its
stead. He should give his best exertions to the fullest
and most satisfactory working of the experiment—.(Hear,
hear)—and no individual would rejoice more than himself
to find that his expectations of a loss from it were not well
founded.

Lord DUNCANNON said the Government would, as
far as possible, follow the plan of Mr. Rowland Hill, but
al it was impossible to say what difficulties might arise,
tfr.2y wished to be left free to act according to eircum-

Stances.
Viscount MELBOURNE replied.
After which the Bill was read a second time, and ordered
to be committed on Thursday.
The other Bills on the table were then forwarded a
stage, and the House adjourned at Eleven o'Clock.

PRICE OF SUGAR.

EFFECT OF MONOPOLY.

Table showing the ex-duty price of West India Sugar,
in Mincing Lane, and comparing the same against that
of foreign sugars. London, August 3d, 1939.
The Gazette of last night quotes the average Per Cwt.
price
of British Plantation Muscovado Su-
gar, exclusive of duty, at

The quantity of Sugar actually sold on account of the
importers in the week ending 30th July, on which the
above price is computed, consisted of 3,581 hhds., 269 trs.,
and 444 barrels ; and not of 4,200 hhd3. as estimated in the
Mar ket.

Foreign Muscovado Sugars have been sold this week at
from 17s. 6d. to 23s per cwt., being fully 20s. per cent.
less than the price of West India Sugar, quality for quality.
On the 28th July, 1837, the stock of West lihds. & Trs.
India Sugar, was
Oa the 27th July, 1839
and yet the price is higher now than in August 1837, by
7s. dd. per cwt.
The delivery of Sugar last week from the bonded ware-
houses of this port again fill short of the delivery in the
corresponding week of last year, by 780 hhds. and trs. From
the Ist May to 27th July, the deliveries have fallen off
when compared against the like period of 1838, 11,837
Wads. and trs.

! : From the Ist January, to the 3d August, 1839, 17,138
1 hhds and trs. have been imported into London from Jamaica.
j ' In perusing the remarks lately made in both Houses of
j Parliament, upon the lamentable condition of the remain-
der! ' of those tvretched Hill Coolies who survived the voyage
i
to, and the after-treatment they experienced in, Demerara,
it cannot fail to be obvious to the readers of those remarks,
that those who made them fall into the error of attributing
blame to the agents of the mischief, instead of imputing it to
the real source and cause which stimulated these agents first
to ensnare, and then to oppress these unfortunate human
beings. With a view to render this observation intelli-
gible, we will ask, although the question may be considered
homely and trite, which is the more guilty party of the
two—the postboy who spurs and lashes the horses, or the
gentleman in the chaise, who encourages and promotes the
cruelty, by bolding up the bribe of a crown piece to the
boy, to urge the horses over a given distance in a given
time. Now the Members who spoke in the discussion re-
specting the Hill Coolies absolutely made, according to
the reports, the mistake of upbraiding the postboy instead
of the gentleman, who urged the commission of the of-
fence. They loaded with opprobrium the owners of the
1 estates on which the crimes had been perpetrated, and
abused soundly the managers and others who acted
under the directions os their owners, but they
said not a word against the bribing gentleman.
This indiscriminate mode of accusation, besides missing the
right mark, had the effect of promoting duplicity, for we
(
read that the employers endeavoured to shift the onus from
their own shoulders to those of the employed ; while they,
in their turn, tried to affix the stigma on an individual who
l had the mischance to be the medical adviser in the pest-
house where the wretched Hill Coolies were lodged. We
hope when the intelligence of the manner in which this sur-
geon has been made a scape-goat reaches his ears, that he
will, in self-vindication, publish a full and particular state-
ment of the facts of the case. Supposing, however—for we
by no means admit that he did—but supposing that he did
treat the patients committed to his charge unskilfully—
there ends his offence. He certainly had nothing to
do with devising the scheme for kidnapping and lur-
ing the unhappy men from their distant homes—nor can
he be accountable for the virulence of the malady engen-
dered by the treatment they received from the planters
prior to their being placed under his care. No one will
deny but that the proprietors, managers, drivers, &c., are
highly culpable, and fearfully responsible for the atrocities
visited on the labourers—whether Hill Coolies or negroes ;
nr,vertheless, they are one and all only acting in the capa-
city of the post boy, and though, like him, culpable, yet
not a hundredth part so culpable as the great gentleman in
the chaise, who, strange to say, was not once hinted at
throughout the discussion—be who stimulated and caused
all the evils denounced is suffered to escape without re-
mark, and his character for benevolence, charity, and
every other Christian virtue to remain unblemished; more-
over having come off free he turns round, and with apparent
concern institutes inquiry into the very evils which had
resulted from his own bad conduct. This great gentle-
man is neither more nor less than one of those who origi-
rally framed, and who, at this day, maintain that law
which, out of favouritism to the West India interests,
stimulates an excessive production of Sugar by holding
up to the planters the bribe of 201. per ton, over and above
the intrinsic value of the Sugar. Had it not been for the
existence of this law, the Hill Coolies, whose cruel fate
we now deplore, would have been in the enjoyment of
health and contentment in their native country.

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