The Sun.
London, England, 1830-10-04 00:00:00

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LONDON,
MONDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 4, 1830.

His MAJESTY will hold a Privy Council at
St. James's Palace on Wednesday next, at one
o'clock, at which the Recorder of London will
attend and make his report of the prisoners
under sentence of death in Newgate.

Despatches were received at the Foreign
Office this day from Paris, Holland, and Flan-
ders The intelligence they contain, however,
is not of so late a date as that received through
other channels.

The Dutch Papers are chiefly filled with a
report of the debate which took place in the
Second Chamber of the States-General, on the
subject of the affairs of Belgium. The debate
being concluded, the Chamber proceeded to the
vote on two questions. The result of which
was, that the first question, relative to the
alteration of the fundamental law, was an-
nounced in the affirmative by a majority
of 50 votes to 44, six Members not hav-
ing voted. The second question, relative to the
separation of the two parts of the kingdom,
was also carried in the affirmative, by a majo-
rity of 55 to 43 votes, two Members having
declined voting. There were 100 Members
present.

The next day (the 30th) the First Chamber
of the States-General met, when the two ques-
tions were debated, and the result was that the
Chamber also announced them in the affirmative
by a majority of 31 to 7 votes:—

SL•'COND CHAMBER OF THE STATES-GENERAL
THE IiAGUE, SEPT. 29.

The debate on the two questions proposed in the Royal
Message or 13th September were continued yesterday in
the General Committee, and concluded in the evening,
which lasted till nine o'clock. His Excellency the Mini-
ster of the Interion.was not present at the morning sitting,
but attended in the evening; he did not however address
the assembly.
Several members delivered their opinions more or less in
detail. We understand that the Deputies from the
southern provinces no longer insisted on a complete and
total separation, which however is asserted to be the most
ardent wish of the Belgians, by Messrs. de Cella, de
Secur, Barthelemy de Langhe, de Brouckere, Cornet de
Gres. and Thryantan d'Anneeroix, in their Proclamation
ha r d
spe deibiaec,
of the 3d of this month. On the contrary, Members
from the southern provinces have required only the srpa.
ration Faille, ofof certainAntwe r
pi n,
tadrelelit:e'red a whileM. G e
veryremarkable
which made an impression on the assembly, to the effect
that the separation between the southern and northern
parts of the kingdom would be most ruinous for the
southern provinces. "By the separation," he said," the King
would be placed in a most strange and disagreeable posi-
tion the King would be the only Dutchman in Belgium,
and the only Belgian in Holland ; and notwithstanding all
Isis goodness and paternal solicitude for the interests of
both parts of his kingdom, would in the end be misun-
derstood by both. Such a state of things cannot and
must not exist. I see in it," said the speaker, "an eternal
source of discord and the ruin of Belgium; nay, I do not
hesitate to say, that if the separation takes place, the wel-
fare of the southern provinces will depend entirely on their
union with France, all Belgians must of necessity look to
such a union as the only means to repair their loss ; but
such a union, if it should ever take place, would be but a
small alleviation of our deplorable fate. The desire for
the union is said to be general, and more than one person
has intimated that the authors of the system of separation
entertain that desire. But can it be supposed that
European policy will admit of such a union A total
and complete separation, such as several Members of
this Assembly, from the northern provinces, desire,
would not be merely a division, but a total dissolution of
the kingdom ; and to this I can never give my consent.
No, Gentlemen, I will never consent to a political suicide.
I will never contribute by my vote to the destruction of
our manefactures, our agriculture, and our commerce--40
the ruin of one of the chief emporia of Europe, and of that
great manufacturing town which we proudly call the Man-
chester of Belgium. such sacrifices cannot be voted, but
must be inflicted."
The debate being concluded, the Chamber proceeded to
the vote on the two questions. The result of which was
that the first question, relative to the alteration of the fun-
damental law, was announced in the affirmative by a ma..
jority of 60 votes to 44, six Members not having voted.
The second question, relative to the separation of the
two parts of the kingdom, was also carried in the affirma-
tive, by a majority of 65 to 43 votes, two Members having
declined voting. There were 100 Members present.
The Chambers then resolved to send the Royal Message
with its announcement to the First Chamber.
We can positively contradict the statement given by
some persons that the army, on its leaving Brussels, lost
some pieces of cannon. The retreat was effected without
loss. According to the report of Tuesday last the 'head-
quarters were still at Diegbern. It is said to-day that
they have been removed to Vilvorde. The insurgents
have remained in Brussels since the departure of the troops.
Tilt MAGUS, SEPT. 30.

The first Chamber of the States-General met today.
It took into consideration the two questions cent from the
Second. Chamber, and referred them to the Sections.
They will be discusses! this evening, at seven o'clock.
Should the First Chamber also answer the questions in
the affirmative, a law will be proposed in this Sitting for
an execution of Article 230 of the fundamental law dish
is of the following tenor.
Art. esu. This law (viz. indicating the necessity of
some changes in the fundamental law) is eent to the estates
of the provinces, which within the time fixed by the law,
shall add to the ordinary Members of the States-General,
an equal number of extraordinary Members, who shall be
chosen in the sarae manner as the former."
We understand that the reserve of the National Militia
it called out.

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Many young men have enlisted into the army in conse-
quence of the notice given, a number of them without
bounty money; these have even offered to equip them-
selves. Two hundred students of threat and Leyden
have offered to serve as Yager*, these too will equip them-
selves, and are expected here.
The States Courant of this evening contains the bi-
lowing official report

" According to the latest accounts the Mend-quarters of
Prince Frederick were removed, on the 29th, to Wselhem,
a village near Mennen, on the road to Antwerp; the
troops still occupy Malines and Vilvorde. There have
been disturbances at Geraerdsbergen, Maldeghem, and
Dienzi, in East Flanders, similar to those in other places."
HAGUE SRPT . •

In the sitting of the First Chamber this evening the
two important questions were debated, and the mutt was,

We intreat our readers to weigh well the con-
sequences--the enqutai enici cee so—f tah ast
yisntue
ns
inevitablyst
whoseou
se en cee
is;eff;:lilneoa'avyw,tfhtwedhose unblushingly avowed
object is to foster every possible species of po-
litical demoralization. The boroughmongers
are the curse of Great Britain, a curse to which
those recorded in holy writ as having afflicted
Egypt, are mere trifles. They fill our gaols with
convicts, our workhouses with paupers, they
encourage the rogue, they keep down the honest
man. Look at Stamford alone, where hundreds
of poor but industrious people are at this instant
reduced to poverty (and how slight in England
is the line of demarcation that separates poverty
from guilt !) merely because they have dared
to indulge in the expensive luxury of a
conscience. Impudent varlets! no wonder
the 'pride :of Aristocracy !took fire at
such plebeian presumption 1 A wretch below
the grade of a gentleman dare to be honest, dare
to have an opinion of his own 1 Turn him out,
my Lord Marquis, turn him out by all meanr,
or moat assuredly this one tainted sheep will in.
feet your whole flock. Tell it not in Guth,
preach it not in Ascalon, that you have a single
conscientious tenant on your estates !
Fortunately for the country the Marquis has
anticipated our advice. He has discharged his
uncompromising tenants; he has snapped asunder
the bonds of gratitude, and thus blighted the
prospects of husbands, wives, and children, whom
from contented citizens, he has turned into furious
reformers. " Here,in Stamford," rays the Boston
Champion, ,t since these discharges have arrived,
many persons have withdrawn their blue ribands
and substituted the tri-colour." So, then, the
tricolour has at length crossed the water ! And
who has been the means of introducing this
badge of freedom into Stamford ? 'The Marquis
of EXETER ! He it is who has unfurled this
portentous banner, and who, by diligently fol-
lowing up his persecutions, may yet rescue Eng-
land from the boroughmongers, as home was
saved by a goose.

ARRIVALS OF GRAIN IN LONDON DURING LAST WERE.
.
From Whence. 1 1 rt F
pi i 7' i
mmeri
Qrs. Orr. Qrs. Qrs. Qrs. Qrs. Seim
A Idborongh 71.13 907 43 506 130
Boston
Cowes
_ Colchester 93 457 000 269 557 1122
r, Harwich - 33 61 1
..1 Leigh 672 171 50 45 261 7
48 Alsildon 271 197 200 .- 232 383 1500
Hull.
Ipswich ll4 739 900 206 81 1143
Kest 634 596 100 233 233 28:1 1650
Lynn — 100 -.— 150
Poole — . .- -..-- 41
Stockton - ..- -- -- ..- -- 010
Wells 260 3 1(30
Wlsbaach 132 -- 260
Woodbridge 240 1396 39 150 507
Yarmouth 450 &X 380 4656
Banff ..... 128 ....
Berwick - -- 10 ..- -- 8
3955 5166 5268 6388 1140 2283 12981
IRISH.
Waterford
Youghall — -* --1040 -»......
FOREIGN.
Archangel
Assens — 295
Copenhagen 705 —..-
Dantsie - .-
Elsfleth .......
Fredericstatit
Griefswald - ....
Hamburg 1507 372 190 -
11eiligenhaven -
Kiel 248 1397 .... ......
Konigsberg — 100 5655 100
Memel
New York — 571
Pet ersburgh 2561 3300 .....
Philadelphia
Pillau 165 2300 ao 70
Riga
llonnebeck
Rostock - 140 742 —..-
Rotterdam — 400 93
Spain l2OO t
Stettin
Stockholm 4O •-•— 50
Tondern — 420 -.
Wolgast lOl6
Coastways 4105 168 ..-
Total 25728 6138 WM 97004 1170 `2546 1896

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