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that the Government had no right to make that grant ;
and he could assure his Hon. Friend, that if he would
consult counsel on the point; be would find that, accord-
ing to the terms of the leases of the buildings in the Park,
the Government had no right or power to throw it open
to the public.
Mr. WARBURTON condemned the mode in which
some of the new buildings erected in the site of Carlton-
palace had been leased to Mr. Nash. His interest was of
course opposed to the public, and in that way the public
convenience was neglected.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, in reference to Mr. Nash be-
coming the lessee of some of these premises, the facts were
44114 these: Mr. Nash made an offer for a lot of ground
far the erection of five houses, at the end of the area in
Waterloo-place, which could_ not be let. He took it on
the condition of building those houses upon it, after-
Wards to be let to such tenants as the Heads of the
Woods and Forests might approve of; and Mr. Nash
undertook to give them at the prime cost. He (Mr. Ar-
anb,t) knew that Mr. Nash had subsequently let them
the prime cost.
Mr• BEAUMONT wished to know whether there had
been any Public competition allowed for this gwh tier,
on it had been set up to public auction, or
on the contrary, Mr. Nash had not been suffered to take it
by a private bargain ?
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said the public was fully aware at
the time that this lot of ground was to be let. It had not
been set up to public auction, because in the opinion of the
greatest lauded proprietors in London that was not the
best way of letting it ; that it might thus go off at a price
below its value, and that the buildings erected there might
thus be let to unfit and irresponsible persons.
Mr. BEAUMONT saw no reason why St. James's
Park should be looked upon in the light of private grounds.
Re was sure it would be a source of satisfaction and plea-
sure to the Sovereign to see his subjects enj ling the com-
fort and recreation which that Park would afford them.
He sincerely believed, if the Noble Lord opposite we:uld
make a representation on the subject in a proper quarter,
that the convenience of the public would be fully attended
to in that respect. He was sure the royal heart would be
gladdened to see the inhabitants of this metropolis enjoy-
ing the recreations afforded by that Park.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that
St. James's Park was an unfortunate instance to select for
complaint, for within a very short period means had been
taken to afford the greatest advantages to all classes of the
public, by the improvements in that Park.—(Hear.)—
There was at this moment a road in progress on the south
side of the Park, which, when completed, would be of
great advantage to the higher orders, and the opening of
the interior of the Park had been productive of the greatest
advantages to all classes of society.—(Hear.)
After a few words from Mr. BEAU3IONT, the question
was put and agreed to, and the House went into a Com-
mittee of Supply.
Mr. G. DAWSON said he proposed to take the vote
for the civil contingencies now upon account, as the amount
Was required for the carrying on of the public service, and
the House wotsld hereafter have an opportunity of discuss-
ing the votes separately. He accordingly moved-.." That
a sum not exceeding 100,0001. be granted to his Majesty for
defraying the charges of the civil contingencies for 1830."
Mr. HUME would not object to the taking this vote
upon account now ; but when the separate votes should
come to be discussed, he would move a resolution, that it
is expedient to effect a reduction in the diplomatic ex-
penses of the country. He should object to voting
60,0001. or 70,0001. for extraordinary diplomatic ex-
penses. A pledge had been given by Mr. Canning, that
every reduction would be made in the diplomatic expendi-
ture of the country ; but instead of that, it had gone on
increasing ever since.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, it
would be found that considerable reductions had been ef-
fected in this part of the public expenditure this year.
The resolution was then put and agreed to.
NAVY ESTIMATES.
Sir G. CLERK proceeded to move the remainder of the
Navy Estimates, and commenced by moving a sum of
99,0001. for defraying the charges for repairs and im-
provements in his "Majesty's dock-yards. This vote had
been objected to on account of the sum called for for the
erection of a new naval hospital in Malta. The building
of that hospital had been determined upon in consequence
of the increase of our naval force in that quarter, and of
the want of adequate accommodation for the sick.
Mr. MABERLY objected to voting 17,0001. for the
erection of this hospital. In his opinion Government had
failed to nuke out a case of emergency, and their conduct
Lad evinced a total disregard of the opinion of Parliament.
Sir G. COCKBURN said that Government had endea-
voured as long as possible to avoid the expense of erecting
a new hospital at Malta. After the battle of Navarin,
however, Government received the most distressing report
of the misery which our wounded sailors experienced from
the situation and the inadequate accommodation of the old
Lospital. It was at that period far from improbable that
another engagement might have occurred. Government
therefore considered it their duty to provide against such
a contingency, and he did not believe that a British House
of Commons would blame them for what they had done.
Mr. HUME said he objected to the conduct of Govern-
ment,-because. it was opposed to the principle that no
foreign works should be executed without the consent of
Parliament unless upon cases of emergency. In the
present instance no case of emergency had been made out.
He would therefore oppose the grant.
The -CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER main-
tained that Government had acted upon a case of emer-
gency. The hospital at Malta was found inadequate to
provide for our sick when we had only 6,000 men off that
station. When our force was raised to 8,000, Govern-
ment felt it imperative upon them, for the benefit of the
service, to build a new hospital.
Lord ALTHORP said that he believed a new hospital
was wanted at Malta, and therefore he did not blame Go-
vernment for having built one. But it did not appear to
him that there had been that sort of sudden emergency
which justified Ministers in going to such an expense
tvitho,ut the previous sanction of Parliament. At the
same time, when the question was whether our wounded
seamen should be provided with a comfortable hospital,
instead of being carried to a bad one, up a steep hill,
which must add to their sufferings, Le could not object to
the vote.

Mr. CROKER said, it was impossible for Government
to delay any longer the building of a new hospital, after
our force off that station had been increased.
Mr. WARBURT@N said that it rppeared to him that
the House was called upon to make this grant with-
out any satisfactory estimate having been placed before it.
Mr. CROKER repeated his former statement, that all
the necessary estimates had been laid before the Treasury
in July last ; that at that time they had been rejected, but
that in consequence of the emergency which had rendered
it necessary for us to send an increased force into the Me-
diterranean, it had been deemed necessary to proceed with
the building of the hospital.
After a few desultory observations from an Hon.
Maxima, whose name we could not learn, Lord Jonst
RUSSILL, and the CHANCILLOR Of the EXCHEQUER., Mr.
AIABRILLT proposed that this part of the vote should be
postponed till the papers were printed.
Ma. HUME wished to know what amount of money
had been already drawn on account of this work.
Sir G. COCKBURN.—None has been drawn yet.
Mr. HUME was glad to hear it—but still thought that
Government had made but a very lame case of it.—(A
laugh.)
The.conversation on this item then dropped.
Mr. HUME said that there was another item in this
vote to which he felt considerable objection. After voting
a million and a half for new churches, he could not see any
reason why the Committee should be called upon to vete
2,000/. for the erection of a new chapel at the dock-yard
at Pembroke.
Sir B. MARTIN explained the circumstances which
had induced the Government to consent to the erection of
this chapel at the public expense. Last year, when he
went down to the dock-yard at Pembroke, the officers met
him With a representation that the shipwrights were
anxious to attend divine service at the established church,
but were not able to do so from want of room. As there
werem upwards of 500 shipwrights there, and as their fa-
ramesLamounted to upwards of 2,000 souls, the Govern-
ment
ce uail dee • med it only right to afford them a place for
the lebration of divine worship. Only 2,0001. would
be wanted for the erection of the chapel this year, 4,0001.
would be the total expense of its erection, as Mr. Macin•
tosh had contracted
not built now • to erect it for that sum. If it were
it would never be built at so cheap a rate
at any other period, as her. Macintosh, who was now
building some works for the ordnance, could build at a
chztrrate innv than he could at any other time.
I°,lel DAVIES supported Mr. Hume's objection to
the grant.
MABERLY said that there bad been an intention
at one time to get rid of this dock-yard altogether. If so,
what occasion was there to build this chapel?
Sir G. CLERK said that there were so many local ad-
vantages about this yard, that he could assure the Com-
mittee that there was no intention at present to abandon it.
Mr. HUME called upon the Committee to consider
well what they were
make a dock and at going to do. If they determined to
y
un to vote mono Pembroke, they would soon be called
cativoy for the purpose of building fortifi-
ons to protect it) for the dockyard could not protect