The Sun.
London, England, 1830-11-03 00:00:00

1,• candle the two branches of the House of Braganca ; and
you are aware that negociations for effecting such recon-
, ciliation were entered into by his Majesty. Those nego-
tiations having failed, the attention of his Majesty's Go-
vernmext was directed to other measure)) which night
I enable them to attain those advantages which there seems
now to be an opportunity of obtaining. Whilst the actual
Government of Portugal was in the hands of persons re-
, cognized only by a faction in that country, and a large
portion of the talent and property of the nation remained
in exile, such a Government Coreld not be recognised with
any respect to the honour of this country. The amnesty
which bus been recommended by the Government of this
country is now likely to be granted, and his Majesty's Mi-
nisters have consequently advised the recognition. The
Noble Lord (Earl Grey) asks, shall we be obliged to go to
war, if the amnesty he violated, oiler having been made
the condition on 'which we recognise Don Miguel? No
rough tonsequence follows; us the Noble Lord will see Nen
the metier in which the recognition is sleeken of in hie
Majeuty's Speech. The Noble Lord will see that we are
not pledged to interfere otherwise than by advice anti re-
monstrance. We are bound to prevent the violation of
Eire amnesty by all means short of war. Our interference
hats no need to be of the kind which the Noble Lord pro-
nouncee unjustifiable, and which, I hope, will never be
resorted to. Although the Noble Lord does not approve
of the recognition of Portugal, I am glad that he does ap-
prove of the measures of Government with respect to
France. My Lords, when the Govermnent of this country
saw the new Government of France established, his
Majesty had not the slightest hesitation in acknow-
Isdgieg the new order of things, end I sincerely hope
that such arrangements will be made, in addition to those
already made, as will be conducive to the welfare and best
interests of that country, and the lasting peace end men.
quillity of Europe. Then the Noble Earl finds fault with
the expressions used In the Speech with refetence to the
conduct of the people of Belgium towards the King of the
Netheriends, and contends that the term revolt has been
applied to their proceedings against the mild and benignant
Government of their Sovereign. But the Noble Earl has
not stated a single ground or subject of complaint which
the people of the Netherlands had urged against their
Sovereien, and they do not appear to have had tiny ground
of complaint whatever, except such as those which the
Noble Earl has read from a paMphlet published three years
ago, and which are mere like a joke than anything else.
Is not his Majesty an ally—a close ally of this country?
and was not this country a party to the arrangement by
which the Netherlands were plated under the government
of this bead of the House of Orange? And what could
the King of this country call their conduct to their So-
vereign
but 8 revolt ? The Noble Earl has of course read
the history of the proceedings in the Netherlands, as they
have been published in the ordinary sources of intelligence,
and he cannot be ignorant that the revolt of the people
against their Sovereign began in a riot. They made no
complaints of him•and Isis Government generally. They
only complained of their union with Holland—of a cer-
tain obnoxious Minister called Mermen, and of some local
taxes which were repealed by the Municipality even before
the complaint reached the Sovereign's ears. There was
no complaint against the Governtnent—none whatever.
Then what did the King do? He most wisely and pro-
perly convoked the States-Geneeal, and laid the griev-
ances complained of before them ; and what was the
reply? That a dissolution might be agreed to, as far as
the adminietratioe was concerned, ()lily preserving the
fundamental laws. Under these circumstances would
his Majesty have done justice to the King of the Ne-
therlands; if he had not said that he had acted like
a just and good Sovereign, and that the measures
which he adopted were wise and proper, and that his Ma-
jesty deeply regretted that they had not produced a more
satisfactory result ? Then the Earl says that we, by the
language which we have held, have put it out of our
power to hOld ourselves forward as juat and impartial me-
diatom between the contending parties. How is it that
we have done so? His Majesty has said that this is it re-
volt, and so it ie. The Belgians themselves cannot deny
the facts. They did, in point of fact, revolt ; and his
Majesty justly says, in his Speech, that they did so. I
now come to that part of the Noble Earl's speech, in
whieh he spoke of the treaties by which this country and
other Powers ere bound to the kingdom of the Nether-
lode. The first treaty is that of 1814, between the four
Powers, by which Belgium was formally ceded to, or put
under the jurisdiction of, the King of the Netherlands,
with a view to the security both of Belgium and Holland.
In pursuance of the objects of dolt treaty, an arrangement
wait made for the proper government of the two countries
in onion, and this arrangement for the government of the
whole of the kingdom was duty recorded in the treaty be-
tween the four Powers, called the Treaty of the Eight
Articles, and the Four Powers were hound by the co-
mments which they conducted by theie treaties. They
made over Belgium to the King of Hollapd, to he governed
according to these treaties, and he had governed accord-
ing to these treaties. Then the Treaty of the Eight Ar-
ticles wait recorded in the Act of Congress at Vienna, and
France was is party to that Act, and therefore became as
much a party to the Treaty of the. Eight Ariieles as the
four Powers had been before. All this le as clear as any
matter of fact can be. And then cones . the question—
could the King of the Netherlands diesolve the union he.
tavern Belgium and Ilollend without the consent of the five
Powers who were parties to the treaty ? He could not with
any degree of justice or propriety. He was bound to commue
nicate with his Allies on the subject before he took such a
step. Ile could not in justice or prurience adopt measures
(or pacifying his revolted subjects and putting en end to
the disturbaleces by himself alone, but was bound to act
In concert with the five Powers, and this he hes done.
And I hope we shall be enabled to effect the pacification
by meant of impartial mediation and prudent conciliation,
without any necessity' for on appeal to 41171111. The Noble
Earl may be assured, therefore, that there is no intention
on our part to interfere by force, or by art appeal to arms.
We hope, by means of negociaticm, and by moderate, con-
dilatory, and pacific intervention, to carry into effect an
arrangement that ought to be satisfactory to all parties,
conducive to the peace anti good government of the Ne-
therlends, and to the welfare end tranquillity of all
Europe. --(Cheering,) The Noble Earl has said that the
arrangement which was inede at the close of the late con-
test W 414 not an arrangement for permanent peace, but 411
lirrangetnent which was calculated speedily to kindle new
waes But how is that allegation borne out by the facts?
Has not Europe, under these Treaties, enjoyed a long
peace of sixteereyears ; for I consider Napoleon's return
from Elba as only a short and pedal interruption. This
is a proof of the good effect* of these Treaties. This
strews that the Sovereigns bad well calculated the moistures
which were peeper to be adopted; and that they enter-
tained soloed viewa of the arrangement which was most
likely to promote the general intercom, the welfare, anti
tranquillity of Europe;. and I hope that we shall be ena-
bled, without resorting to harsh anti coercive measures, to
get over this difficulty as we have got over many others,—
(Cheering.) I now feel myself called upon to advert to a
pare or the speech of the Noble Viscount on the cross
bomb, which 1 heard with pain, and which. I had well
hoped might have teen 'spared., The Noble Viscount has
thought 'proper to advert to the discutoious which took
''place last year tie the state of Ireland, and the great
measure which was adopted with reference to that country;
and the revival of this topic seems to have received
eorne tee mom, ee ft om °heal/6001M made by ann.
I thee Noble Lord. The wild speculation! that have
' been publiehed, and the extravagant projects which
bavo been suggeeted in some quarters about a repeal
of the Utast) between Great WWI! and Ireland, Wye
been rehear lee Now only reflect
.4 little, 'and molder
that in the eircumetancea in which we are aetteally placed,
the repeal of the Union is opposed by almost all the great
!slept te • oats of the soil of Ireland—thus 4 is opposed by the
great majority of the Catholics, and by almost ell the Pro.
teetents—and ttiiLt ;t in opposed by the almost unanimous
voice of the two Houses of parliament. And then comae
der what would have been our situation if the great mea-
sure of gonciliation with respect to the Cetholiess had not
been carried. Both Houses had voted in: favour of the
measure by great majoritis'e. The House of Commons
had look had a majority in its favour, which was conti-
nually increasing, and the tnejerity in opposition to it in
this Moe was tiothinteally decreasing up to the three when
so large 4 tslajOrity supported it, Let the Noble Viscount
only consider three circumstances, sod then let lam say, if
he can, that we do not now stated in a 'better situation by
weene of this measure of conciliation, than we idrould
otherwise have done? If we do steed ilea better situ-
ation in consequence of the course which we adopted with
referenee to the Boman pahoio, I do not see the advan-
mee of the Noble Viscount's allusion to the subject et pre-
sent, or of the reproach cast upon me, by the Noble Ler{
:apposite, that I yielded to fear in proposing that measure
rather than to a tense of what was tight and just. I
did not, may Lords, give way to filer, 1 gave way to
what I -felt to he the course moat conducive to the bast
interests of the country, and not to appreirensionee—
(Cheering.) Nor did . I admit the principle of right
as applicable to the claims of those who_ . petitioned
to be relieved ftotet distabilities which they felt to be
grievanres. I acted upon views of expetliency'd sound
oolicy ; and on those grournia, and on those alone,
I justified the nwassire. The Noble 'Lord will forgive
MU for saying,. that 14 testwithetandlog all that has been
done, much irritation still prevails, iu Ireland, the evil is
1 row to he aticribed tO the condOct of hint 111sjeldy'e nolo-
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