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LONDON.
FRIDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 1, 1837.

We perceive by one of the papers that delights in
gathering up the drippings of Toryism from every ob-
scure corner, that a small knot of worthies professing
themselves members of a certain Cheshire Associa-
tion, misnaned " Conservative," met the other day at
Stockport. For what purpose they took this trouble
we cannot tell, because the world was already pretty
well convinced that there is not a more foolish and
ridiculous (because foolish) set of people on .the face of
the earth than the Tories of Stockport. They have
a vague undefined idea that they ought to oppose what
other Tories oppose, and abuse what other Tories
abuse—namely, her MAJESTY'S Ministers, and their
Liberal measures ; but so stupid are they that they
cannot for their lives find out the way to perform so
very easy and simple a task. They cannot set about
it like other persons ; but absolutely burlesque the
cause which has the misfortune of being adopted by
them. The Poet says— _

" Its proper power to hurt each creature feels,
Bulls aim their horns, and asses lift their heels."
But had he lived to see the antics of the Stockport
Tories, he certainly would have made them an excep-
tion from his general rule. Had he been in the Stock-
port Menagerie on Wednesday last, he would have
found animals there, that with every possible
desire " to hurt," were so unconscious of
their " proper power," that the long-eared ani-
mal might be observed aiming his horns, and the
horned one lifting his heels—bruin attempting to play
off monkey tricks, and pug labouring with all his might

to sting.
What Tories of this description said or did, cannot
be of the least consequence to any but themselves.
There was a gentleman of the name of EGERTON,
Member of Parliament for North Cheshire, who spoke
in a very desponding tone of the prospects of the anti-
national—alias the Hanoverian—party in this country;
and for so doing—for uttering the only thing that had
a glimmering of sense about it, he was rather sharply
called to order by a pertish person with the queer name
of GRIMSDITCH, who we believe is the same worthy
wha got himself smuggled in M.P. for Macclesfield, by
dint of corruption of the foulest kind. This worthy re-
marked that " lie (GRIMSDITCH) felt himself hound
to differ from the Hon. Member for North Cheshire
in regard to the result of the recent election—a result
which he ccntenzplated without fear." He is a bold fel-
low, is he 110t—RITADAMANTHUS GRIMSDITCII.
M.P. for Macclesfield ?

The arrivals from China have brought some further de-
tails relative to the determination of the Government at
Pekin to put down the opium trade, and compel Mr.
Jardine, Mr. Dent, and other British merchants to leave
Canton.
The following is a translation of so much as is original of
the second Report of his Excellency the Hoppo on th• sub-
ject of the late orders and measures respecting the foreign
merchants in Canton and the opium trade.
After detailing the various circumstances connected with
his first Report, dated on the 29th of December, his Excel-
lency proceeds as follows :
.4 We find that opium at the present moment is very
abundant, and the price of sycee exrremely high. The
stores of opium arise from the combinations of traitorous

natives.
" This is an indispustable fact. It is proved that the
Hong merchants have stated in their report that they do
not act as go-betweens in the smuggling of opium, and
that the foreign merchants also do not receive any money
and deliver opium orders ; this is difficult to be believed ;
still as we have not yet obtained any proof that they are
playing the traitor, we, therefore, cannot act on mere
rumour only, and conclude them guilty, which would have
the appearance of intentionally causing annoyance and
distress.
" As to the foreigners who have hitherto frequented
Canton, only the English have a very extensive trade.
Lately, because the Company has been dissolved, and Tae-
pans do not come, each foreign merchant manages his own
business.
" Jardine's trade, and that of others is very extensive,
and winter is the busiest time. To order them now
abruptly away would not look like a compassionate regard.
" Former governors, in their several reports on the fixed
regulations, have represented that at times the goods of
foreigners are not sold, and that it would be hard dealing
to drive those ships out of the port. The foreigners were
therefore allowed to dwell in Macao for a short time until
they had finished their business, and to engage their pas-
sage, and return in the succeeding year. This has been
the practice for many years, which is on record. Now
Jardine, Dent, and Turner have dwelt in the provincial city
for many years; it will be difficult to anew of longer delay.
We have ordered all of them down to Macao in the second
moon of next year, and to quickly finish their affairs and
go home. Not the least delay or opposition will be al-
lowed.
" When the time is arrived and they are not gone,
whether they have linked themselves on with natives to
engage in the nefarious transactions of opium dealing, an
immediate and strict examination roust be made, and the
heaviest punishment inflicted, by which the laws will be
manifested and the practices put a stop to."

There was a good sprinkling of Parsons at the
meeting. This is a matter of course ; wherever any
evil is hatching against the progress of knowledge and
the liberties of the people, there we are as sure to find
the black gentry, as to find the ravens attracted by the
scent of carrion. The meeting was incomplete in one
material respect. Though there were oddities encugh
there, one was omitted, for which nothing could make
amends—Mr. PowNA LI., the rejected of Finsbury at
the former election, and of Middlesex at the last, did
not make his appearance. We suppose he was detained
at Liverpool, where he has been preachi►►g a sermon to
the outvoters who came up from that town to support
WOOD and him in the county of Middlesex. This is
what he calls standing upon the Reform Bill ! It is
understood that PowN ALL means to tramp the country,
and deliver this precious piece of Evangelism at as
many places as he can find fools to listen to him. -He
rates it very high, and well he may, since it took
him a good month's time to concoct.

The question of the Ballot is, as we anticipated it
would do, daily growing in importance with the people.
Meetings in its favour have been already announced
in many of the most influential country towns ; a►,d
among other emphatic signs of the times on the sub-
ject, we may refer our readers to another column of
this day's Sun, where they will find a report of an in-
teresting public meeting that took place on Tuesday
last expressly on the question of the Ballot: At this
meeting there •was but one opinion on the matter,
namely, that the Ballot must be conceded. So say we.
Reform cannot progress without it, as experience has
already fully shown. The least, therefore, that Mi-
nisters can do, is to make it an open question.

In Tait's Magazine for this month we find a clever,
but, in our opinion, far from conclusive article, pur-
porting to embody an answer to the now all-important
question—" How is the QUEEN'S Government to lie
carried on ?” If the Radicals be noted for one qua-
lity more than for another, it is for their honest, straight.
forward adherence to intelligible principles—for their
manly avowal of facts—for their substitution of the
practicable for the imaginative and the dishonest in the
working of political science. It is their peculiar boast
that they employ a political language intelligible to the
common-sense, the moral, and matter-of-fact feelings
of their countrymen. But from this standard of Ra-
dicalism, as hitherto exhibited by its leading profes-
sors, the article in Tait is a marked departure. No-
thing can be conceived more indistinct and shadowy
than the writer's ideas as to the exact line of policy
which Ministers ought to pursue—nothing imagined
more lofty than the heroic contempt with which he
looks down from the highest pinnacle of Mount Pa-
triotism upon the tiny obstacles that impede the rea-
lization of the hopes of the Radical party. He does
not condescend to examine the political complexion of
the New Parliament—he does not think it worth his
while to admit that a plan for the future guidance of
the Cabinet might require to be materially
consistently too with the highest regard for the national
welfare—in consequence of the result of the first two
or three divisions to which the Corningns mast pow

THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 1837.

on one or more of the great questions which stand for '
discussion early in the ensuing Session. If Ministers
will rot do, what it is very clear they cannot think of
doing in the present quiescent state of public feeling,
be is for throwing them overboard, and allowing the
Tories to take the helm—unconscious of, or indifferent •
to the fact that the Tories, by judicious management,
might contrive to wriggle themselves into office, and
that once there, it would be as difficult a job to dis-
lodge them as it ever was before the passing of die
Reform Bill. His view of the actual position of Mi-
nisters, and of the light in which the public should 4-
gard it, is equally narrow and erroneous. " Merc:Ti7
he says, " will be cried for Ministers once more, en
account of their difficulties I—Consider their diffici4-

ties ! We have been considering them for five years,
and have never been able to get rid of the idea that

they are either self-created or wilfully magnified; that
they have grown by tolerance, and have sometimes
been not unwelcome. Before sincere Reformers, these

phantoms must eitln r have disappeared, or taken solid ;
form long ago. Theie was a period when the Crown
was hostile, when Ireland was almost in insurrection,
and Mr. O'CONNELL denouncing Earl GREY'S
government as—' base and bloody.' These were
tangible difficulties—for O'CONNELL is a formidable
foe, whatever sort of ally he may prove ; but where
now is the invincible obstacle ? Has the want of the
confidence of the country in Ministers taken the place
of all those exploded difficulties? Or, rather, does any
difficulty exist, save this dilemma—that the Tories
will have office, and the people will have reform ?
And how can a government act in the difficulty created
by these violent antagonists, especially when it has re-
solved neither to surrender office, nor yet to give re-
form? Truly these difficulties inspire great sym-
pathy l" Now what a farrago of nonsense have we
here. Is the writer so ignorant as not to know that
the obstacle in the reforming path of Ministers is as
great and as tangible now as it ever was—that it was
and is the House of Lords ? What had DANIKL
O'CONNELL ever to do with the obstruction of any
measure demanded by the Radicals, that his name
should be introduced as a Liberal playing into the
hands of the Tories ? What measure of Radical Reform
encountered the hostility of his vote even during the
unobjectionable part of the Anti-Irish career of Lord
GREY'S Administration ? It requires, we think, a tole-
rable stock of assurance to denounce the hostility of the
House of Lords a " self-created difficulty which has
grown by tolerance"—a " phantom" which has yet
to assume a solid form I As they say in Scotland, the
writer, whoever he may be, and we think we can re-
cognize his identity, " must have a hard cheek"—a
face to which blushes are a stranger. We repeat, the
difficulties of the Reform Cabinet will be found to
centre in the existing Constitution of the House of
Lords ; and, in the present temper of the people, we
are not inclined to admit that difficulties springing
from such a source, would be at all lessened by the
voluntary resignation of the Whigs. On the contrary,
we are persuaded that nothing could be more injurious
at this particular juncture in the foreign and domestic
relations of this country. The QUEEN has not yet 1
arrived at an age when political predilections can be
presumed to exercise an influence over the Royal mind,
too strong to admit of those nameless modifications
which a faction skilful in Court intrigue might turn to
dangerous account—principles involving the fate of
Europe are at war in Portugal and Spain—a social
and political earthquake agitates Italy—.and at home,
though we deny the existence of re-action, we must
admit that the people are not yet prepared for the
practical agitation of the question of the sweeping away
of the second branch of the Legislature. We know that
Ministers are blamed for having occasioned the popular
apathy—that they are accused of having by their timid
vacillating policy disgusted their honest supporters.
Undoubtedly, Ministers have not acted with sufficient
energy ; and bitter, in consequence have been the re-
buffs, and many the indignities which they have been
doomed to experience. But their continuance in office,
after passing the ordeal of two general elections, is
proof positive and conclusive that the people continue
to place confidence in them. It was not their fault that
the Municipal Corporations Bill for Ireland has not
passed—they are not to blame for those abuses in the
Irish Church for which they provided a remedy sanc-
tioned by the House of Commons, and hailed as a
tranquillizing boon by the Irish Catholics—and they
arc certainly entitled to the credit of having effected
improvements in the • criminal code of this country
which will reflect lasting honour upon their Adminis-
tration. Had Lord MELBOURNE'S Government nei-
ther effected, nor attempted to effect, more than it has
done, towards the purification of the criminal statute
law of England, it would have acquired for itself a
just claim to be remembered with respect and gratitude
by posterity. We are not professed admirers of the
Whigs, as our readers well know ; but we have always
done justice to their motives, and we will continue to
support them as long as better and more Liberal states-
men are not to be found in a conditio❑ to occupy their
places in the councils of Her MAJESTY. We are,
moreover, persuaded that the Radicals are more than
ever bound to " consider their difficulties," and to
avoid useless collisions, which may end in the return of
the Tories to power. The Radicals will yet have
their day of triumph ; but if they really wish it to be
soon, they must not provoke an exchange of a Reform-
ing for a Tory Cabinet, as such an event now would
retard it more than any other that could possibly hap-
' pen. When the people demand, and demand in a
voice of thunder, a Reform of the Lords—then, and
not till then, will we chime in with those who would
now persuade the honest Radicals of the United
Kingdom, that Ministers have only a " phantom" to
overcome.

We have received the whole of the Paris Papers of
Wednesday. They bring no intelligence from Madrid
of a later date than the 21st ; though it was rumoured
that a dispatch had been received, the contents of
which the Government thought proper not to commu-
nicate to the public. Of course it is presumed to be
unfavourable to the QUEEN'S Governmentor rather
to the QUEEN, for her Most Catholic MAJESTY, by
her intrigues with ESPARTERO, may be said to be
now without a Government. The Monde, a Paris
journal of no political character, has the following ex-
traordinary announcement, which we submit to our
readers without comment—simply because we more
than doubt its authenticity :
The Spanish papers have not reached us to-day ; but
here is what a correspondence contains which has never de-
ceived us. We presume the dispatch received yesterday at
the Home Office announced this decisive march of events :

" On the 22d, in the morning, 77 Deputies assembled at
the house of M. Arguelles, and drew up a proposition to
the Cortes, dorn:lnding—
" 1. The removal of Christina as Queen-Regent, leaving
her the faculty of remaining with her daughter, in the name
of whom she will govern a Regency, consisting of five mem-
bers, selected by the Cortes.
" 2. The prosecution of Generals Espartero, Lahera, Ri-
bero, Van Halen, and generally of all the individuals having
participated in the plot which has subverted the Calatrava
Ministry.
" 3. The requisition of all Spaniards from the age of 16
to that of 40.

4. The immediate dismissal of all the officers of Espar-
tero's corps d'armee.
5, The establishment of an extraordinary: Commission,
entrusted with the chastising of All individuals who shall op-
pose the new system of Government."
This much, however, may be relied upon—the
Cortex4o 411 in their p9wer to thwart the designs
of ESPARTERO, whose disgrace appears to ltc at hand.
The Army, finding bun no longer the idol of the Na-