The Sun.
London, England, 1863-05-09 00:00:00

SOUTHERN ITALY.

On the motion for going into committee of supply,
Mr. HENNESSY, in moving for further papers re-
specting the state of Southern Italy in continuation of
those presented last year, said he believed they would show
that he was right in the statement which he had made be-
fore in the house, that British trade with Naples in 1862
was less than in 1861, and that Mr. Consul Bonham was
not justified in his assertion that that trade had continued
to increase within the last four years.
Mr. G. BENTINCK, who had also a motion on the
paper for further papers relative to the political condition
of Southern Italy, said his only object was to elicit the
truth, and to prevent discussion on the subject from being
stifled. He drew an unsatisfactory picture of the state o
the country, and said he convicted Sir James Hudson of
not giving the information which they ought to possess,
and of having sent reports which could not be relied on.
The hon. member then proceeded to comment on the fact
that Government had refused to lay upon the table
papers relating to the treatment of political prisoners.
The noble lord said he could not interfere, but the right
hon. gentleman's pamphlet was sent round, and its con-
tents made an impression on the minds of the Italian
Government. In 1856 it was admitted in that house that
there were cases when it was the duty of England to in-
terfere with foreign Governments, and that Naples svaa
one of them on the grounds of the bad Government and
the murder of prisoners in the gaols and their itopropboer
treatment. Admitting the contents of the Pa"hilieetn Wand
true, the state of the prisons was worse now. thanl
nye: sans odf tyhe
punish-
Governmenttthehe rightdomiciliaryh nw. gentlemana
vs tits
greaterwere
noa wass w
on regime. The Neapolitans naturally
.asked where was
Mb r. Gladstone, and how it was that, having reconciled his
ments by death wero more. numerous than under the Bour •
his voice and use his influence in favour of
sbchl :lan; .°;voTrhi
na as
elfraol wyrn:l
ander
differences with the noble lord at. the head of the Govern-
ment, and even a member of his Cabinet, that he was so
Bilent about their sufferings. He, however, called
right hon. gentleman, in the name of humanity," tho
to raise
the Neap°.
litans.

Mr. LAYARD said he had frequently heard it said,
rtahaa that
nh
don. gentlemen opposite
both iatin awndeloluttbosfpothseedhotuowsea,
blished Italian liberty as her Meesty's anxious to see esta-
was surprised to find that ever j
made that night hostile to Italian Government, but he
bwyasththeme
fawcitt,havuoachil:rhouads statement that had been.
It was all very well to cry " Oh,,
the public in the record of their speeches
an liberty had been received
(boh, , oh, and hear, hear.)
, ' but htehat
th assertedey were
thater
o
nchoedeorsubt°that it would go forth to
Opposed to Italian liberty. (Oh, oh, and hear, hear.) The
Italian Government, as it now exists, represents the feel-
' ings of the Italian people—(oh, oh, and hear, hear)—and
the time had now passed for that house to have a debate on
the condition of Italy any more than on the condition of
France, Austria, Prussia, or any other continental State,
or that Italy had a right to interfere and ask for a report of
that state of Ireland, or any county in England, without its
being considered a great piece of impertinence. (Oh, oh,
and hear.) The hon, gentleman had failed in doing whata
he said he should do, show that the state of our relations
with Italy was such as to warrant our inteerferen
going
on was but natural, when the
.great struggle was g'
ed inde-
on in Italy, when authority
that this country should express anxiety
sympathies of the
wish to know on which side the
de ndence had been
that Italian in Pe
Govern-
ment tended; but now
unhappy exception, established.,
withoneco-operation was less requisite now
rendence not recognised, and unity still
respecting
pbecetfionugghitt,
and
wish
gained and unity,
progress of that liberal movement,
than during the
for the Italian people. There
resulted so beneficially
existingin that country
had things, no doubt, ,
were "Ire many(Hear.) There *ere two rea-
deplored.
which weisratoo be
should not appear to be similar to other
80n0 why ^ les
people of Naples were demoralised—.
anything like active
which
parts Italy. The
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