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London, England, 1839-09-20 00:00:00

one, that Lord Normanby, in order to advance the Irish
Catholic, depressed the Irish Protestant.—( Hear, hear.)
God forbid that he or any other man should ever do so!
No ! Lord Normanby did not lower the Protestant, but
he raised the Catholic to that just level with the Pro-
testant, to which by Emancipation the Catholic had been
theoretically exllted. But there are those who think that
their elevation depends on the depression of those below
them, and who conceive themselves to have descended,
because they see others lifted up. This is the meaning
of the factious exclamation about " the poor perse-
cuted Protestants of Ireland." The Irish Orangemen
have, indeed, been deprived of that bad ascendancy
which they converted to purposes so fatal to their
country, and their monopoly of all power and all patron-
age is no more ; to this extent their wrongs have
reached, but no farther.—(Hear.) That they should
repine, and feel exasperated at this deprivation, is not
very wonderful ; but, on the other hand, it would be

equally marvellous if the people of Ireland did not feef
a proportionate gratitude towards the man who acted,
in their regard, a part in which wisdom and magnani-
mity were combined.—(Cheers.) There has been, in
England, a great deal of minute discussion resneeting
the merits of Lord Normanhy's Administratio► 'n the
Tory papers, and. the smallest and most insignlficant
details have been examined in the spirit of factious criti-
cism

Every appointment in the police—every remis-
sion of a culprit's sentence—every petty incident which
befel in a Government of four years' duration, has been
the theme of reiterated and most elaborate expatiation.
--(Hear.) I have often felt, in hearing debates on
these topics, that the advocates of Lord Normanby
ought to have disdained all reply to such unworthy at-
tacks.—(Cheers.) Upon Lord Normanby's Govern-
ment a larger view ought to have been taken ; and
to nothing but to the great political results of
his Administration ought any reference have been ever
made. He secured for Englaad and for her Queen the
attachment of seven millions of Irishmen.—(Cheers.)
Where deep discontent had reached, he infused confi-
dence and attachment, and with a genuine loyalty
tilled the nation's heart.--(Loud cheers.) His policy
was as simple as it was successful ; for how did he ac-
cotnplish the great things which he performed ? By
preferring the rights of a gteat people to the privileges
of a small and fallen party, and thus enlisting the affec-
tions of the country which his Sovereign had committed
to his care.—(Hear.)—This will be the view which
history will take of his government, and it is in this

view that the merits of his administration ought to be
discussed. He has been succeeded by Lord Ebrington,
and the appointment of that Nobleman has given to the
Government an additional title to the national confi-

dence.—(llear, hear.) Lord Ebrington was endeared
by his whole public life to the Irish people. Under
every vicissitude of adverse and prosperous fortune
Lord Ebrington was undeviatingly true to the cause

of that country to which he is so cordially attached.
—( Hear, hear.)- It is not matter of wonder,
therefore, that he has, already obtained so much popu-
larity, and that we should all look with so unqualified
a reliance on so just, so good, so pure, and so sincere
a man.—( Hear.) . But it ought never to be forgotten
that he had Lord Normanby for his predecessor.—
(Cheers.) From Lord Normanby's Government he
has derived facilities for success, which, under other cir-
cumstances, he would not have possessed. It was his
boast that he should tread in Lord Normanby's steps,
and by treading in them he has walked in that path
which has led bins to the eminence he has already
reached.—(llear, hear, and cheers.) The Lords them-
selVes speak v.ith praise of his Government ; but
he has done nothing, thank God, to incur their sincere
panegyric. Their object is to intimate censure of Lord
Normanby, through their encomium of his suuccessor ;
but in that process of indirect condemnation they are
foiled, by the obvious fact that the Government of Lord
Ebrington is founded upon exactly the same policy as
that on which Lord Normanby's administration was
grounded.—( Loud cheers.) I have dwelt upon these
topics, because they are connected with the motives from
which your confidence in the Melbourne Ministry so
deservedly arise—and to that confidence I ascribe the
cordial reception which I have this day met among the
people of Tipperary.—(Hear.) It not infrequently hap.
pens that when a man takes office, he incurs the disre-
lish of his constituents ; but in my case the reverse
has happily and honourably taken place.—( Hear, hear.)
You are gratified, I know, by my elevation to the
place which I now enjoy—and the entire of the popular
party in Ireland have felt pride and pleasure at the
marks of favour conferred upon Mr. More O'Ferrall
and Mr. Wyse.—(Cheers.) But let it not be supposed
for a moment that it is because we are Roman Catho-
lics that we have been advanced to office. Oar reli-
gion gives us no sort of claim—but our religion, on the
other hand, ceases to act as an impediment.--(Hear.)
Had we been Protestants attached to the popular cause,
we should have been promoted from precisely the same
motives, to which we may now refer our advancement.
We ate Irish Members of Parliament, representing the
feelings of a vast and powerful body of our countrymen,

and we, in common with a large section of the House of
Commons, have given to the Minister a strenuous and
honest support. Would it be just that upon the class to
which we belonz, and the party to which we are attached,
there should be affixed some principle of exclusion ; and
would it be wise that offence should be given to that vast
community of which we are members, by making. our
religious creed the groundwork of our disqualification ?
—(H,.•ar.) The Irish people, putting the pretensions
of individuals aside, are not to be held in such light ac-
count, and they send into Parliament too m any mem-
bers devoted to the Government to permit a system
which once unhappily prevailed to be any longer adopt-
ed.—(Cheers.) By associating with the Government
individuals enjoying the confidence of the Irish people,
the Government is strengthened, and in this view all
reference to the merits of those individuals may be put
aside. I make no doubt that at the opening of the next
session the Ministers will present to their antagonists a
force which will render all the efforts of their antago-
nists vain.-4 Cheers.) The Tories speak with great
affected reliance on their success in breaking up the
Government ; hut they have held the same language
for three sessions, and none of their predictions have
come to pais. It is true that they have been able to
baffle the Government in the Lords, but look to the
signal success of the Ministers in various great trans-
actions, and then consider how little ground there exists
fur that despondency to which some amongst us are too
apt to give way.---,(Cheers.) The civil war in Spain is
at an end—the affairs of Belgium and of Holland have
been adjusted—the difficulties arising from the Mexican
blockade are at an end—the Indian expedition has been
t riumphant, and a treaty of incalculable importance with
Austria has been concluded—surely the people of Eng-
land will attach more importance to those great events,
than to the declamations against Popery, w;th which
an ippeal has recently been made to their religious
prediees.—( Hear.) I might dwell at great length on

the momentous topics on which I have touched, but
this is not the appropriate place.—(Hear, bear.) Igo
back to England, and if I had nothing but the success
of the Government in this country to rely upon, I
might rest on that success as a ground of perfect con-
fidence in the stability of the Administration. " Yeu
have lost Cambridge," said a Tory to me in London,
" Yes," I replied, "but we have kept Ireland, and
Ireland we shall always retain."—(Loud cheers.) How
could the Lords govern this country ? They must re-
sort to c )ercive measures, which the House of Com-
mons would probably not carry ; and if the House of
COmnionS did carry them, then the army in Ireland
inust he'doubled. There were in Ireland 23,000 troops
in 1534 ; there are now only 13,000 ; and since 1831
the police has only bccn increased by 300 men. Would
such a tni:itary cstablishinerit be sufficient if the Tories
came into office ? Rightly did Sir It. Peel exclaim, when
he gave his famous explanation—" My great difficult,'
lies in Ireland."—(Hear, hear.) True, and the tild-
e:lloes would he far greater than the Hon. Baronet
anticipates. His own party, if in power, would be dis-
tracted and divided on Irish. questions. In any mode-
rate policy the Irish Orangemen, and a seetion of his
English supporters, would never acquiesce. A vast in-
crease of force would be indispensable. That increase
of force would require new taxes, and, strongly as
England may deprecate Popery, England would de-
precate new taxation more. From Canada the Tories
would find it impossible to bring troops to Ireland, for
in Canada these difficulties would be augmented by
the treatment which Ireland would sustain at theirhands.
—( Hear.) " The Irish Catholics were faithful in Upper
Canada," says Sir F. Head, "to a man." I rejoice at
it, and trust that their fidelity never will be affected.
But in the fortunes of this country they take a profound
interest, and if they shall see that country prostrate and
surrendered to Orange domination again, lown that I ap-
prehend that the enthusiasm of their attachmeat to Eng-
land may be injuriously impaired.—( Hear.) These arc
most serious considerations, which every moderate Conser-
vative should reflect and pause before he expresses a
hope that a Tory Administration, with all its hazardous
concomitants and fearful results, should be again restored
to the abuse of power in the British empire. I verily
believe that many a man votes on the Tory side from
the inevitable necessities to which party subjects men in
the House of Commons, who would look with alarm on
the realisation of those prophesies in which the To:y
journalists so ostentatiously indulge. An opposition of
a character more than progressive, an opposition united
and consolidated—as oppositions always from their na-
ture must become—a Government made up of the re-
presentatives of discordant sections of Conservatism—
foreign powers emboldened in aggression by the internal
distraction of the country—lreland organised and die-
' contented, with augmenting power and increasing resent-
) ment—more troops, more taxes, more Churtism,more of
all that good and wise men concur in deprecating ; these,
then, would be the results of a Tory Administration.—
(Loud cheers.) Mr. Sheil concluded by referring to
topics snore immediately connected with the county of
Tipperary, stated that no pledge had been demanded
from him, and announced that active measures would
be taken to renew and extend the registry.
The election then terminated.

Count D'Orsay has been staying at St. Leo-
nard's during the past week. The Count returned to Ken-
sington Gore on Monday.