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in.° Committee cn the Bill. The clauses were agreed to,
the House ri_surned.
TITHE COMMUTATION ACTS AMENDMENT

BILL

On the motion of the SOLICITOR-GENERAL this
Hill was read a third time and passed. •
JOINT STOCK BANKING COMPANIES' BILL.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX-
CHEQUER the Joint - Banking Companies' Bill
was read a thiad time and passed.
EXCISE•LICENSES(SALE OF SPIRITS) BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER muted
the third reading of this Bill.
Mr. AG. LIONB 17 moved the omission of clause A.
His object was to restore the Bill as originally framed by
the Chancellor of the Exchequer. A distinction bad been
drawn betwe,n brandy and rum, which had no real founda-
tion, as to the consumer. And he considered that any
person should= be. able to get a small quantity of spirits
at that place: yvkre he believed he could get it best,
viz., at. a wholesale dealer's and not be compelled to
go to a gin palace. He earnestly recommended the
Government early next S-:ssion to consider the whole
system of licensing generally—having regard alike to the
interests of the licensed victuallers, the beer houses, and
the public.—( Hear.)
Mr. HUM E seconded the motion.
The CHANCELLOR.of the EXCHEQUERthought
it would have been an improvement of the law to pass the
Bill as fist framed.--( Hear.) But after a great deal of
consideration as to the large interests affected by the Bill,
he had agreed to alter the Bill into its present shape,
and to that he must adhere.—( Hear.) At the same time
the whole subject undoubtedly required great consideration.
Captain PECHELL thought the Chancellor of the
Exchequer had taken a wise course. He must express his
hope that the statutes on the subject generally would soon
be consolidated and amended.—(Hear, hear.)
The motion was negatived:
On the question that the Bill do pass,
Mr. M..PHILLIPS begged to join in the request
that the general subject would be hereafter considered with
attention.'—( Hear.)
The Bill then passed. -
The Report en the Patents' Invention Bill wan brought
up and agreed t 0...
The Real Estates Liabilities Bill was read a third time
and'passed.
SHERIFFS EXEMPTION BILL. _

. The Sherffs Exemption Bill was then read a third time
and passed. .
STANNARIES COURTS BILL.
The Lords' amendments to the Stannaries Courts Bill
were ageefl:to.
CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL.

kkot.c.l Bill was read a second time.
BILLS BILL.
The,Exehequer„, fie 1301 efts read a second time.
CORIWATIi,,PROPERTY (IRELAND.)
The; Corprate,Property• (Ireland) Bill, was read a
T HOUSE.
second ti,.llc
Sir F. T.R:E.N9aicl;:. that- in. bringing forward the
motion of which he had given notice,, he felt.somewhat
in the -Plrigom,,who:was obliged to com-
mence the service, in consegurnce of the nomattclidanee
of the. congrag,ati,on., dearly beloved Roger." He
jct!ggo-4.t.0 the attention of the House to al experi-
Monts submitted to the Buck Light Committee, and to
move,' tits lustr's be furnished with candles, short
thres ,to the pound, in.-itead of long- threes, which give no
more light than six to the-pound, and which therefore de-
feat the intention of making a fair comparison between
the power .of the Wax Light. and the --Bode Light."—
(Loud laughter.) Justice had not been done to the
candles.. The former experiment with the Bede Light
had proved a .failure, and .now they were about to
institute a third.—( Hear, hear.)
It was a beautiful
light, but was not suited to the House. lie bad been
ill treated. Dr. Ure stated that short threes gave a much
better light than long threes—( A laugh)—a long three
gave no More light than a six—( Loud laughter)—and yet
he had been put-off with long threes. __( Laughter. )
Mr. PRYME seconded-the motion.
Sir R. INGLIS supported the motion, thinking the
House indebted to his Gallant Friend for the exertions he
had made with respect to lighting the House. '.
The CHANCI?,LLORof the-EXCHEQUERthought
the time (-f the House might have been much better em-
ployed than in discussing the comparative merits of long
firees and short threes.—.( Laughter.) He would not throw
any obstacle in the way of the experiment, if it was worth
while making it.
After a short conversation the motion was withdrawn.
The other Orders were then disposed of, and the House
adjourned at- Five- &Clock.

• - HOUSE OF -1,01?DS, AucusT 13.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool-
sack at Five o'Clock. •
A message from the Commons brought up the Col-
lection of Poor-rates Bill, the Birmingham Police Bill,
the Slave-trade Suppression Bill, the Disembodied Mi-
litia Bill, the Road-money (Scotland). Bill, the Stan-
naries Courts Bill, with their Lordships' amendments
agreed to, the Prisons Bill with their Lordships' amend-
ments agreed to, the Excise License Sale of Spirits
Bill, the Joint-stock Banking Company Bill, and several
other Bills, which were severally read a first time.
Lord LYN D HURST-presented a petition, praying
that certain clauses might be introduced into the Copy-
hold Enfranchisement Bill. Also a petition from (as
we understood) a Mr. Clarke, praying for compensation
in consequence of a clause in the Metropolitan Police
Bill.

Lord DUNCANNON said the ci,im should have
hio cURS said he should propose at
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Lord
struck out unless comp ensation were to
she su t s
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be made to such persons as the petitioner.
The Duke of RICHMOND supported the claim
of the petitioner.
Lord LYNDHURST said that, if the Noble Vis-
count would give a sinailar.assurance to that which he
gave with respect to the Municipal Corporation Bill, Lc
had no doubt it would be, satisfactory.
After a kw words frOui Lora DUNCANNON,

`Viscount MELBOURNE said he bad no objection
to give a similarassoro'nce.
Lord LYNDHURST—Then I am satisfied.
UNLAWFUL OATHS'(IRELAND) BILL.
Lord 'DUNCAN NON moved-the third reading of
this

After a few words from the Earl of GLENGALL,
the Bill was read a third time and passed.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from three
licenced victuallers, the agents representing their
brethren in 43 towns, against the Spirit Licenses Bill
and praying the House to reject it. He trusted their
Lordships would, at all events, reject one clause in the
'
Bill; wondered how it ever got into it because it did
neither more nor less than make every
grocer's shop in
the country a gin shop. That was absur, end he hoped
it would be rejected.
Lord ELLEN BOROUGH presented a petition
against the two Bills connected with the administration
of the Poor-laws, now before the House, from the pa ish
of St. Luke Chelsea. The petitioners prayed that no
parish, containing more than 2.5,000 inhabitants, might
be compelled to unite with any other for the purposes
of the poor. They also objected to the system of
proxy voting, mentioning an instance where one indivi-
dual obtained 900 proxy votes in favour of his son, and
outvoted all the parishioners present. They also stated
that the law had not operated economically for them,
but that the rates had been increased. This was not
surprising, considerinv that the Clerk received 400/.
a-year, and . the Deputy-clerk, in whose favour the
proxies had been.obtained, 100/. a-year.
A NOBLE _Loup „ingitirecl the name of the Union.,
.Lord ELLENBOROUGH said—The Kensington

. . .
Union. . .
Earl STANHOPE 'presented a petition from the
parish of St. 'Pancras, against the Metropolitan Police
Bill, and the Metropolitan Police Courts' Bill. A
siinilar petition from St.• Leonard's, Shoreditch. Also
apetit
theio Collection
nfromlitel
of Rates'ensin 13th gtonUnir
and a (webelie)
against similar
petition from St. Luke's Chelsea:: Also a petition from
the Stroud Union against the New Poor-law, stating
that the rate had steadily and seriously increased under
that Bill. A petition from St. Mary's, Newington, I
-praying for the immediate repeal of the Poor-law Act ;
and petitions against the Bill from the parishes of St.
Andrew's " Holborn, and St. George the Martyr.
Also a petition from the Commissioners of. Paving• of
the parish of St. George the Martyr. Another from
the parish of Gatesby, and "another from the town of '
°ldha
min Lanccishireagainst the Now Poor-law.
CAPITAL."CONVICTIONS AT WARWICK.
Lord BROUGHAM had to present a petition to
which he begged the attention of their Lordships. It
purported to be the petition of Mr. Carpenter, the Chair-
man of the Convention, representiag the industrious
ib tosdtyd the opinions of
ate I
classes. Of course their Lordships couledxocneplytrtehceeiiviecitulsiee
petition as the petition of the individual signing it, because
as they could recognize no convention of the industrious
cothee classes,lfaes;°ems 'nino°rns h
a—nyneerc wyPeirrslettheeedinctiostiv
'as
call their Lordships' 'a t ten ...
tion to it. The petition stated that three men, named
Roberts, Jones, and Howell, were at present under sea=
fence of death in Warwick gaol, basing at the late I
Assizei been capitally convicted of destroying pro-
perty at Birmingham they llad been committed
for riot and afterwards had been capitally in-
dicted—this circumstance had prevented many per=
sons - from coming forward, and among others.,
the masters of the prisoners, who would have come for-
ward to give them a character, had they known they
were to be capitally indicted. He did not complain of
• this, it was what was frequently done, as after a person
had been convicted for riot, it might be afterwards disco-
vered that there was evidence to support a capital charge.
The petitioners also complained that the Learned Judge
an Agrarian
todeprive
others o
in charging the Grand Jury stated that they.belonged to
property, and to
divide it among themselves, and that they were
Association, the Object -of which
wastheir
convicted under one of those barbarous enactments
which had ecaped the notice . of the Legislature.
The petitioner also stated that the same Government
that bad encouraged meetings had, by a perverted
course of reasoning, instituted prosecutionsagainst persons
for attending lawful assemblies, and called the attention of
their Lordships to the fact that two of the
oxriefended.by counsel, and that the King of the French
It&l:; recently extended the royal pardon --tcr 'Babes',
prsoners were
who Was 'convicted of high treason. ' The -petition :after
repudiating the charge, that Chartists had any desire: to
plunder property, destroy life, and 'invade the-Constitu.