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London, England, 1837-10-31 00:00:00

Burdon ...

Howard's Netherton Main 2l 2
Holywell 22 0
Crd's ltedhinTh
Pontop Windsor 2O e
Russell's High Main '2o 3
ran field 24 3
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Townley' 2l 0
West Hartley
Walls End.l3ell and Brown 23 .0
Walls End Bewieke and Ca 23 0
Gosforth
Walls End Heaton 23

Walls End Hilda _ 22

Walk End Killingworth
Walls i•ml Northumberland, 92 3
Walls End Bens am 22 6
Walls End reareth 9 6

N MCA Si LP—UPON-TYNE CORN MARK ET.— Cet. 2Ft.
We had a moderate supply of Wheat both from the Interior
and Coastways at this day's Market, which met a fair demand
at an advance of Is. to 2s. per quarter on the rates of last
Saturday. For Malting Barley of the best quality there
was some inquiry, but inferior descriptions were quite ne-
glected. In Rye there was little or nothing doing, and sales
are very difficult to effect at our quotations. Oats were in
fair supply, and sold at similar rates to last week. The ar-
rivals of Malt being considerable, the sale is dull at all prices.
Beans and Pease remain without change. For Flour we had
a fair demand to-day at our quotations.
rew.
Wheat, Nerthuraerland 42 . rit .59
----- Norfolk awl ......... tiO (A..
Berwick and Sc,t.ch

Inrei' •
---- .git
Rye, Norfolk and Sudolk
Foreign s. --I ..--S —s.
Parley, Malting, Norfolk .ind Suffolk... 33, 33s —a. —4.
Grinding and Feeding .13 tl's
Malt, Norfolk and Sutlislk 5.,s tit:
Beans, Small 'as. mis
Tick .J's 384 —s —s.
Pease, Whtte •I•ts. :kis —s. —s,
Gray
Oats, Northumberland, l'ot:itoe ..... .... 21s. 21s 265 ‘2,;:s.
—.-- Fecd 203 23s 2.ls. !6..

Foreign
Flour (Ia sack) s.

EAST INDIA SHIPPING.

Arrivals.—Oct. 30, the Duke of Roxburgh, Dessington,
from Madras, off Portland, sailed June 8, from St. Helena
Dec. 2; Scotia, Scothay, from Batavia, at Cowes, sailed June
5, from St. Helena, Aug. 8.
Departures from Sydney (New South Wales.)—The Car-
narvon, Alfred, for London ; Isabella, Manghan, June 19, fur
Launceston.
Arrivals at Hobart Town.—The Commodore, Fisher, Juno
3, from the Mauritius ; Mayflower, Headley, from London.
Arrivals at Launceston (Van Dicmen's Land.)—The Wil-
17am Wise, Ellis, from London and Rio Janeiro; Sea Witch,
Huson, June 20, from Port Philip, and sailed June 27, on her
return;' li
Ann Wise, Ronnie, June 23, from Hobart Town;
Henry, Whiting, June 30, from Port Philip, and sailed on her
return ; William, Thorn, June 30, from Spencer's Gulph, and
sailed June 8, for Sydney.
Arrivals at Sydney (New South Wales.)—Tho Margaret,
Canney, from Cork ; Giraffe, Burn, June 13, from London ;
William \Thom, June 13, from Launceston • Vesper, Frazer,
June 1.5, from London ; Richard Bell, Bell, from Launces-
ton ; Prince George, Roach, June 19, from Launceston ;
John, Whyte, June 20, from Liverpool and Hobart Town ;
Alice, Wright, June 20, from China; Helm, Galloway, June
22, from London ; Frances Charlotte, Welbank, June 24,
from Portsmouth, Rio, Cape, and Hobart Town ; Resource,
Boyle, June 24, from London ; Ann, How, Juno 27, from
London, in March, 1835, and the whale fishery, with 1,150
barrels of oil; Jem, store ship ; Buffalo, Wood, June 27, from
South Australia ; Bee, Parkinson, June 29, from New Zea-
land; Woodlark, Grimes, June 29, from whaling, with 1,400
barrels; Tamar, Clapham, July 3, fiom the sperm fishery,
with 1,300 barrels of oil.
Ships Loading at Sydney.—The Sarah and Elizabeth,
Davison, and Caroline, Williams, for London, all in July ;
Brothers, Towns, for China, July 15; Persian, Hopton, for
Valparaiso.

Passengers per Thomas Lowry, from Sydney—Mrs. Gross,
Mr. and Mrs. Symonds and family; Montcfiore, Esq.
Per Lord William Bentinck, from Bengal and the Mauri-
tius—Mrs. Maynard and Lieut. Maynard, 24th Madras N. J. ;
Major Grierson, Royal Engineers ; Capt. Paterson, of her
Majesy's 26th Regiment.
Per Medora from Sydney (expected)—Three Misses and
Master 111• Queen, Miss Arkell, Miss Moore, Dr. Inches, R. N• 1
Mr. Smith, Mr. Ferguson, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Lawrence, and
Mr. Austin.

Rcsaat Bey, the new Turkish Ambassador to the
French Court is a very remarkable personage—he is a
Turk, and yet he neither smokes nor drinks coffee.

—Lord Durham owed his welcome in Glasgow to his speech
at the Grey festival in Edinburgh. That speech was not marked
by greater liberality ofprinciple than was avowed by others of
the aristocratical section of Reformers. Its excellence was,
that it seemed to indicate nerve and determination to act
up to the full extent of the speaker's views. Lord
Brougham, then looked upon as one of those who had it in
his power to do, intimated an inclination to stop. Lord
Durham, then looked upon as not having the power, re-
buked his pusillanimity. Now Lord Durham has it in his
power to do something : is he as resolute as when he merely
played the part of critic on him who had?
" All that I ask for," says his Lordship, " is free and
fair discussion." And he repeated, with emphasis, the de-
claration in his letter to Mr.-Bowlby—" However favour-
able to the principles of household suffrage, vote by ballot,
and trientl::arliaments, which he had repeatedly stated
in his pi :!' Parliament, yet he never could, and never
would, co 17*-iit. to force them , upon the consideration of
any one." eally this is being too considerate. If Lord
Durham • • yes the points lloyieffirs to essential, he. is
bound, /urn public man, to press them " upon the consi-
deration" of our rulers. Knowing how large and-increasing
a body of the Reformers hold them to be essential, he
is bound to press them " upon the consideration" of
our rulers. It is Lord Durham's duty, and the duty of
every true Reformer, to postpone the trial of his own pet
remedy to the trial f that which the freely and fairly ex-
pressed opinion of the majority of Reformers is for trying
first ; but it is sacrificing the cause to false delicacy to re-
frain from urging measures to which a lago body of the
public are attached, upon men in office, for fear he should
be called dogmatical. There is a yielding here, when brought
to the test, of which there was no indication in. the speech
at the Grey festival. In keeping with this more courtier-
like tone, is his Lordship's discovery, that if the Ministerial
majority has melted down from one hundred and fifty
to thirty or forty, " the times are much altered—he
does not apprehend that a great majority is necessary to
the existence of a Government," &c. Does Lord Dur-
ham mean that the practical reforms, the attainment of
which. was the great reason for reforming the elective sys-
tem, are even begun yet ? Will the House of Lords con-
cede to a small majority of the Commons what it denied to
an overwhelming one? Will the Peers be the more in-
clined to yield tat they haves—not Lord John Russell—
but Lord Durham, running, open-mouthed and breath-
less, to protest against any " organic reform" of the
uosf
tthhaetGhriseyw.ufersdtsivaarleorthoef
sGamlausg. owlyGe rereepni.y
tHhaet
House of Lords? Oh, no ; this is not the Lord Durham
mthaeyreteils
not the same heart in them. His sturdiness has abated atl
the very moment when it could be practically useful.
gatlheraut
icslausus
poefaume.iserEabvleens winhothecrsype‘e(upheuace, peace,
We would not be understood to class Lord Durham
pon which
among that class of miserables who cry " peace, peace,
w mh
ea ne
we have been so freely commenting, we find a weight of
thought and eloquence of tournure fur beyond their reach.
We do not question in the slightest degree his honour or
his patriotism. His remarks on national education and the
".no-Popery" cry are alike true and beautiful ; but we be-
gin to doubt his Statesmanship, for we find him far more
tram celled by the littlenesses of his caste than we could pos-
sibly have imagined. He can make no objection to Mr. Lid-
dell " upon his claim to become the representative of North'
Durham, founded on that of family. He is the son of
as excellent, honourable, and respectable a nobleman, as
any one I know ; and so far, therefore, as his claims arose
on that account They arc indisputable." His Lordship
seems inclined to rest his own claims in like manner upon
birth and the Sovereign's favour. lie enlarges upon " the
memory of his ancestors," and his feeling of regard for the
natives of that county with which his ancestors have been
connected from time immemorial ; and also upon his being-
" loaded with the honours of his Severely." Restinn mum
these two props, be takes upon him to patronise Lord Mel-
bourne in a way that is somewhat of the lordliest. "My
belief is—my confidence in Lord Melbourne is such—that
you may safely and freely trust him. lam not a member
of his Administration ; I speak
.independently. I am in
the service of the Crown, but not a member of Govern-
ment." This is somewhat too much in the style of a
Queen's friend; who can do the Minister a good or ill turn—
in the vein of Warwick the king-maker. Lord Durham's
vehement declarations of loyalty to his order are quite in
keeping with sentiments like these. It is lamentable to see
so strong and accomplished a mind as Lord Durham's
dazzled and blinded by the mere ornamental part of the
Constitution. Unless. he make an effort and shake himself
free of the delusion, he never can be for his country what
his admirers have fondly expected. Our Reform is not to
be worked out in the spirit of a gentleman-usher.
(From the Glasgow Herald.)
Lord Durham's speech, at a meeting of the Reform
Society in his own county, which will be found in our first
page, has received amore liberal share of attention from
the political Press than we think it deserves. His Lord-
ship, irritated by the circumstance of a Conservative can-
didate defeating his brother in North Durham, expresses
himself perhaps more strongly than he has lately been ac-
customed to do ; but still he merely repeats the opinions he
has all along professed to entertain, and we do not see ally
these opinions should be regarded now with a much deeper
interest than formerly. We are aware that his litter of
July excited hopes in some quarters that lie had abjured
the doctrine of Republicanism ; but as we stated at the
time, these hopes appeared to us utterly, grourelless,
and we are not therefore disappointed in finding that
they have proved S 3. .It does indeed mil appear
inexplicable how Lord Durham can reconcile his ap-
proval of the Russiaq Government, " which," he says,
" has been much libelled, and of which Englishmen
know too little," with his admiration of a democratic policy
in England ; but it fortunately is not our province to extri-.
cate his Lordship's opinions from the inconsistences in
which they arc apparently involved.
We do not think it necessary to trouble our readers with
any remarks on this speech. His Lordship, it will be seen,
is still a professed supporter of household suffrage, vote by
ballot, ind triennial Parliaments, and still a bitter opponent
to any measure for reforming the House of Lords. We
are bound to say, that in maintaiiiing these doctrines he
is consistent with himself, although the doctrines them-
selves would, we suspect, if carried into operation, be found
inconsistent with each other. But lie adds that "he will
never press them on the consideration of the people before
they arc prepared to reee:ve them." We wish tint other
professors of similar doctrines would act with the same
forbearance ; but modern political physicians are unfortu-
nately more earnestly employed in persuading their patient
that he is ill than in coning to an understanding among
themselves by ivliat operation he is to be put right again.

MUNIFICENT BEQUESTS.—The following liberal
legacies, we arc informed, have been loft by the late Joseph
Egerton, Esq., of Barnparks, Teigumouth, formerly of Great
Cumberland-street, and Gray's Inn square, London, to five
of the charitable societies in London :
Three per Cent. Consols.
To the National Benevolent Institution £2,000
Refuge for the Destitute 2,000
London Orphan Asylum 2.000
London Female. Penitentiary
London Philanthropic Society .

Total,. X10,900
To be Paid free of legacy duty.
YORKsiIIRE. REGISTRATION.—We congratulate
the Reformers of the West Riding on the following gratifying
statement of the results of the revision just completed :
GENERAL RESULT OF THE REVISION OF THE WEST
RIDING, 1837.
Total Tories struck off by Parties 1,419
by Overseers 166
—1,585
Total Reformers struck off by Parties 1,327
by Overseers 179
—1,506

Gain to Reformers on Objection's' 79
New Claims by •Reformers (so far as re •
-
turns made 1,192
New Claims by Tories (so far as returns
made)

Gain on New Claims 417
And gain on Objections 79

Total gain to Reformers...—. 496
This result does not include a return of new claims from
Wakefield, Huddersfield, Skipton, Settle, and Aberrord ;
but the majority of new claims in those places is in favour
of the Reformers.—Leeds .Mercury.

Mr. STANLEY, on rising to return thanks, was received
with hearty cheers. A complaint cculd be made that Minis-
ters had not done enough ; but that was a fault the Tories
could not urge, for too much had been done by that party.
He then went or: to enumerate some of the acts of the last
Parliament as a proof that something bad been done. Great
principles had been broached, good seed had been sown, and
it would produce good fruit. Ho was confident that Ministers
would endeavour to introduce measures to promote civil and
religious liberty and justice to our fellow-subjects in Ireland.
,The next toast was " The People,", to which Mr.' W.
HaLLlwau, of Lees, made an eloquent response, in which
he argued that the origination of power from the people was
the only guarantee of good government. He spoke with
great force of sarcasm upon the men calling themselves con-
servative operatives, and expressed his indignation at the
mean and sneaking arts used by men calling themselves res-
pectable, to obtain favour with those whom they formerly
spurned and kicked.
" Civil and religious liberty," was responded to by the
Rev. Mr. Apsland.
The CHAIRMAN then proposed the health of E. J. Stanley,
Esq., M. P. for the northern division of the county, of whom
lie said that no better or more faithful representative of a
county existed. He did not agree with him in all his senti-
ments, but he thought highly of him before he was Member
for the county, and he had reason to think more of him after
having observed bow faithfully he discharged his duties. In
the course of his speech Mr. Hindley expressed his conviction
that ere long the division would return two Reform Members.
Mr. STANLEY in returning thanks pointed to the room as a
proof of the sort of re-action which the Tories had asserted.
That party said they would reform acknowledged abuses, and
yet they had resisted every reform although abuses were evident
to all. Tithe commutation was to correct abuses, but it was
resisted. The Marriage Act was to correct abuses, but it was
resisted. The Church-rate Bill was proposed, and this' also
was resisted, and all manner of obloquy thrown upon its
promoters. The spoliation of the Church was to he found
amongst her own sons, who sometimes paid more atten-
tion to the good of their own families than the welfare of the
Church. He spoke with calm but cutting sarcasm on the re-
solutions of the Durham clergy, who' wished to put their own
convocation above Parliament. Such propositions from Re-
formers would have exposed them to the charge of revolution
and destruction. With quiet and gentlemanly irony he dis-
posed of the charges of destructiveness dealt out to all who
dared to talk of reform, and vindicated the intelligence and
love of peace and good order of the country. He concluded
by asking Reformers to imitate the activity and energy of
their opponents, whose strength was not to bo despised.
The next toast proposed by the CHAIRMAN was " Lord
Mulgrave, and justice to Ireland," and he begged that Mr.
Philips, the excellent Member for Manchester, would respond.
Mr. Plumes was received with enthusiastic cheering. In
his response lie said, shat the painful duty fell upon him when
he gave his first vote to give it against those Ministers whom
lie wished to support—on the Coercion Bill, which he could
not but believe to be a measure of gross injustice. He
bailed with the greatest satisfaction the change which took
place upon the appointment of Lord'Mulgrave, from which
time Ministers had proved themselves to be essentially the
friends of Ireland.

The next toast was proposed by Mr. BeontaaToN, who, like
Mr. Philips, was received with loud cheers. It a-as " The
extension of the Elective Franchise and the Vote by Ballot."
To carry out the principle that the people are the only source
of legitimate power, the people ought to be enabled to exercise
the franchise without punishment.
Inupusett TOO rress," and said that its
great present object should be to unite all classes of Reformers.
" The North Cheshire Reform Association" was then given,
and• Mr. Correa: responded.
" Education of the People" was the next toast, and the
Chairman called upon Mr. Prentice to respond. In his ad-
dress Mr. PRENTICE said that the people must demand educa-
tion, that electors might know how to vote ; and the Ballot,
that they might vote without intimidation.
The Rev. Mr. BROOKS proposed " Union amongst Re-
formers," and recommended the formation of a Hyde Reform
Association.
The lasttoast was " The Liberal Magistrates cif the County,"
and Mr. HOWARD returned thanks ; after which the splendid
meeting separated.

COMMERCIAL INTERCOURSE

WITH FRANCE.

. The French Government has shown- of late the disposi-
tion to a more liberal commercial policy. This is exempli-
fied by a recent letter of instructions from the Custom-house
administration, relating to certain articles, the importation
of which by the treaty of navigation of 1826, and by various
royal ordinances of 1833 and 1834, had been legalized. By
regulations arising out of these, it was ordered tat mer-
chan,dize reputed to be of European origin, but of which
produCtions similar exist in other parts of the globe, could
not, coming direct from the British dominions in Europe,
be admitted for consumpt;on without a regular certificate of
their European origin. This regulation was naturally ex-
tended to all objects of importation alike, because where not
actually produced or manufactured in sufficient quantities
for export from other parts, as, for example, from Americ,:,
or not known to be produced at all, yet there being no na-
tural impediment to such production, it seemed requisite to
guard against such a contingency. In cases where identity
of productions justified the precautionary enactment,
merchants could have no cl.rim to consider its application
a grievance, nor in that respect did it give rise to complaints ;
but where it was a matter of sufficimt notoriety that ar-
ticles imported could only be of European origin or fabri-
cation, the formalities attendant upon the exaction of these
certificates of origin were found to be extremely vexatious.
It was frequently found that captains or shippers had ne-.
glected to conform to the rei;ulation in which the admission
to entry of their cargoes was subject to considerable del'sys
whilst the error was rep ;fired or explained. And 'n addi-
tion to charges incurred by such detention of the ship, the
expense incurred by the strict observance of the formalities
required was no inconsiderable burden. The due consider-
ation of these objections has induced the French Ministry
of Commerce, through the Custom-house Board, to issue
an order, that in future certificates of origin shall be dis-
pensed with on the importation of various articles, which
are known tfenerally to be only produced in or exported from
European ports. -If, however, hereafter, any of these ar-
ticles should prove to be frequently and in considerable
quantities introduced from countries out of -Eerape, the
exemption would in respect to them cease. Among the
more prominent articles to which the exereptien applies
may be enumerated cotton yarn NJ). 113 (French count)
and upwards, linen and hempen yarn, linen and hempen,
cloths, plain and twilled ; steel of all sorts, needles, iron
wire of all sizes, iron anchors and cables, lead, litharge, ma-
chinery and mechanical instruments, coal, bricks, chromate
of potash, sulphate of magnesia, pipeclay, sulphuric, arse-
nic, citric, tartaric, oxalic, and other acids, &c. .
By another ordiaance, silk handkerelliA in the raw state
may be imported free of duty, for the purpose of being
printed for foreign account or consumption, bond being
given for their re-exportation or for their being sent into
.entrepot within the space of three months. The import
and export can only take place by the ports of Havre,
Nantes, Rouen, Dunkirk, Marseilles. and. Bordeaux ; and
on the land frontier by Lille, Forb tch, Strasburg, St. Louis
and the Bridge of Beauvoisin.

DOVER, OCT. 27.—The Duke of Wellington a►§
rived this day, at five minutes before 11 o'clock, a.m., in
order to hold his annual Court and Sessions at the Harbour
House, Dover. His Grace appointed 11 o'clock, a.m.
We merely mention this fact to show his uniform punc-
tuality on all occasions, never being a minute after the ap-
pointed time. On Tuesday last, when he held .his annual
Court for the making of new pilots at Dover, he arrived
to a minute of the time previously fixed. After transact-
ing the business of the Harbour Sessions, his Grace pro-1
ceeded to the south pier to view the state of the works car-
rying
on at the mouth of the harbour. Ile W 45 accom-
panied by the Earl of Guilford, Sir Edward Knatchbuil,
Sir Henry Oxcndon, Sir Brook Brydges, J. Plumptre,
Esq., M.P. ; Morris; Esq., of Batshanger ; W.
Deades, Esq., of S.►ndhn ; Hon. Mr. Jenkinson Lathan,
Esq. ; J. Shipdem, Esq. ; and many others connected with
the harbour . they then adjourned to the London Hotel,
where they partook of a sumptuous dinner. The Duke
of Wellington did not leave the London Hotel till nearly
9 o'clock, p.m.

The CHAIRMAN said—l take this position, merely be-
cause I am unwilling to dose time. My own feelings aro
against occupying such an honourable position, but I do it
in compliment to the great cause we are met to support.—
(Applause.) You all understand the object for which wo
are met together. We are met fronedivers places in every
part of the county, to consider the beit means by which
we can bring the important subject -of vote by Ballot in
Parliamentary elections before the notice of our own popu-
lation, .and before the attention of the Government of this
country and of Parliament' itself. That the Ballot bas
made very considerable progress in the minds of man-
kind within a very few years, every one of us well knows ;
perhaps every one in this room is a proof of it. I am
myself, standing in this position, a proof of the • effect of
circumstances showing the indispensable necessity of trying
the Ballot.—(Loud applause.) - I was personally opposed
to -it until the the time when -Mr. Sliwe was thrown out
of the representation of this county ; and the circum-
stances which I then noticed, and the facts which 'came
under my consideration, convinced me that.tliOugla it allight
at first sight seem to have- some cliCumstanees attending
it that appeared somewhat inconsistent with the character
of Englishmen, yet it has less of evil than the evils now
too manifest at Parliamentary elections.—(Applause.) In
considering the matter more fully, I see no objection why
we should be willing to adopt it ; 'I see no ground pro-
perly speaking, for that degree of diffidence which kept us
back from advocating it in former times.—(Enthusiastic
cheering.) It is well known to you, that it is used in va-
rious societies throughout England, that the clubs in Lon-
don are all formed, and members are all introduced by
means of the Ballot ; and why it should not be adopted at
elections for Members of Parliament, I can see no reason ;
but contrariwise, a great many reasons why we should en-
deavour and not cease our exertions to obtain it.—(Con-
tinued cheering.) Any remarks that any gentleman may
feel inclined to make on the subject, will be received wi'h
attention and thankfulness. We wish to have the subject
fairly brought out and canvassed among ourselves, in order
that we may go away from this meeting every one of us
prepared in the most efficient manner, to join in petitions
through the Eastern Division of the county of Suffolk, to
be brought in simultaneously at the assembling of Parlia-
ment, to press upon the Government and Parliament gene-
rally, the necessity of making some effort on this great
subject.—(Vociferous applause.)
Mr. J. CHILDS then presented himself, and was hailed
With the most Marked approbation. Mr. Chairman and
Gentlemen, it may seem to some unbecoming in a person iu
my station of life to have ventured on such a letter as that
which I addressed to-the Suffolk Chronicle, asking persons
within this division of the county to meet. for the purpose of
petitioning Parliament for the Ballot. The scenes which
the late election presented induced me to do this.—(Hear.)
Those of us who have lived to be more thou 50 years of
age, and have been in active life between 30 and 40 years,
can well remember the Tory proceedings during the wars—
they are now become matter of history—and most of us
can remember the circumstances which have transpired
under the Tory Governments since the peace. To the latter
circumstances I shall confine myself to day. When that
period arrived, the question of Reform naturally began to
be agitated, and we have only to recur to the events which
transpired from time to time, the atrocities which were per-
petrated on persons who met peaceably to petition Parlia-
ment for Reform, to understand what the Tory principle is.
I shall not to day interfere with the characters and habits
of individuals who live around us, or near us, but I shall
examine carefully the principles which hai,e been at work
during the last 20 years, whilst the people were struggling
for Reform. We 'remember the Manchester murders, at
which thousands of persons were met peaceably and con-
stitutionally to petition for Reform in Parliament, after
having so long suffered under the abuses which resulted
_cram tba 1it......L.,-.. 1.. Ans -,-,11. to rarnament trona such
'boroughs as Aldborough, Dunwieli, and Orford, and other
similar places. At that meeting a score of innocent persons
were slain, and above 600 wounded by sabre cuts ; and a
Tory Government thanked the Magistrates who caused
these murders to be committed, and gave the chief conduc-
tor, the Rev. Mr. 'Jaye, an enormous living in the church
at Rochdale.—(Shame.) This state of things continued
until the Duke of Wellington declared that he believed the
system of Parliamentary elections, as well as the Constitu-
tion of this country, the wisest and most perfect that could
exist, and that no Reform should be made.--(Hear, hear.)
You know how the country was roused by that expression,
and Reform was obtained. The Reform Bill no sooner
passed than the Tories, acting on the principles which they
are proud to avow, instantly set about destroying the prin-
ciple and the effect of the Bill, which we had with so much
difficulty obtained. They have endeavoured by all possible
means (and the Scripture says, that " man finds out many
inventions") to deprive the voters in districts like this of every
p article of will in the electionof Representatives in Parliament.
We have only to look round us in our own immediate
neighbourhood for.instances of the most disgraceful intimi-
dation. If we look to Norwich—l have witnessed the
elections at Norwich for nearly fifty years, and I have been
the various kinds of corruption prevailing there under the
0:d Corporation System—(men who live in Corporate towns
can never be thankful enough to the Ministers who gave
them the means of destroying that system)—but in the
City of Norwich a new and wholesale order of bribery arose
with a man, who, having introduced it, and succeeded in
his election, was, as soon as possible, raised by the Tories
to the Bench. It is an undoubted fact that, until Sir James
Searlett came to Norwich, the kind of bribery which is now
practised there was not known ; it was brought there and
perpetuated by him and his son.—(hear.) Gentlemen,
there is no question on that subject ; there is no doubt -of it.
What a scene was it 'when he was elected, and when he
stated to the people of Norwich, that he considered that
place a City of Refuge.—(" He did,"and cries of " Shame.")
He brim , elected r No,wiele the Tory Ministers imme-
diately coestituted him Chief Judge of the Court of Ex-
-1 chequer, and the man so elected and so elevated, hal the
courage to select for his ii: at judicial appearance the Nor-
folk Circuit, where trials were about to take place touching
delinquencies committed at his own election. The Judge
was met at Cambridge by a friend of mine, who subpcenaed
bin to appear as witness on three NorwiA election bribery
rasa 6.- ( Renewed shouts of " Shame.") Gentlemen, alw
7
immense sums of money e xpended at Norwich, have carried
their cont .urinating influence into the country ; and I am
extremely sorry to say that some Norfolk farmers, in broad
cloth, who keep their guns and their dogs, have consented
to take money for their votes at the last election, with no
deeper sense of moral guilt than to remark, it was a nice
little sum to buy barley-meal for their dogs. When ono
was solicited for his vote by a Liberal, he replied, " I mean
to have tea pounds for my vote, and I don't care which
party I give it to ; but I can tell you I shall not vote for
ani ;art.} till I get it." On the gentleman who applied to
him obteiYing, that there were three cr four of his neigh-
bours who were paters., the elector answered, " They intend
to act in the same way ;
shall 40 Long Stratton, and ace
don't get the money we go ..
];',, no use to go to them ; if we
t and the price
what the prices are."—(
Gentlemen, continued Mr. Childs, they
s Of disapprobation.)
tecpression
(Hear, hear.) At the same time the town was given to them they received monte;..efnoar:ntbwehiricvioitleelce
was co
&
contaminated by more than forty„d,ruankdendeatnaidnetitg ed
freemen of Norwich, brought to Bun), n
there
for several days in a state of drunkenness.. . iillie partizanspersons
who take charge of such voters, ucb
of the Marquis of Douro and the Honourable. Mr. Scar-
lett, or any other names, are well qualified for all neces-
sary proceedings, and I hslieve their usage is to drug
the spirits which are given to their chair and to keep them
in a st.ite of imbecility.— (It is, it is. Genfleilzse• it is
true we have got the Reform Bill; but equally,true We littN
, nit the means of using it for good.--(Hoar.) My neigh'
boors have begin injured hi their business—they have lost
their business ; and many respectable persons in the town in
which I live, for having given their votes conscientiously,
and who, having sturdy tempers, refused to be coerced, have
paid severe penalties. Then as to intimidation, have I not
seen the tenants on an estate urged one way on one days
atiotl-er on. another day, and back again the next day?
What is the remedy for these scones and practices ? The
Ballot.—( Loud c!:eeri. g.) Man will exercise power if ha
has it ; and will use illegitimete power for undue purposes
if he is permitted. The question is, whether we can enable
men to act in the things tlinfa:yeloionteeir,en
their business affair.; they i itillteruc' sde.l r c I ' 1:1? otwl.l that in
fectly well, that unless we can do so, it would be very
ery
absurd for this district cf Suffolk—for the class to which
I belong--; he middle and the working .e., esa
e—it w ould s el
be exceedingly absurd for them to bestir themselves any
I more at an election. It is of no use fur the Whigs to set

tip a plea of possessing more virtue than any other set of
tarn. I will defy any man of that party, who is base enough
to give money for a vote, to do it con more, if he supports
the present' Ministry. There is a halo of Reform thrown
around Oim which prevents him from doing it with the grace
oe a Tory. Wherever the Whigs have done this, they have
-been beaten ; and I hope they always will.—(Repeated
plaudits.) The true definition of the franchise I take to be
the simple operation of a man's mind in action, and nobody
has any business with it. It is that which the people of
this district wish for, and they desire to have their own

at this time be Members for Ipswich.—(Continued cheer-
ing.) With respect to the expense at elections, since the
Reform Bill passed, our expenses, at any one of the severely
contested elections at Ipswich, have not exceeded 6001.,
and at the last election the whole expenses were under
5001. ; so that it must be obvious that had we spent more
money in the same way our opponents did we should have
beaten them.
The CHAIRMAN then read the petition to the meeting,
and it was adopted unanimously.
Thanks were voted to the Chairman for presiding, and
the meeting dissolved.
A copy of the petition is to be placed in the hands of
some influential gentleman in every town and considerable
village in East Suffolk to obtain signatures; and each
petition is to be presented to the House, as that of the
inhabitants of the district in which the signatures are ob-
tained, so that there will be upwards of thirty petitions for
the vote by ballot, from the most priest-ridden county in
England, presented simultaneously on the first meeting of
Parliament.

p. inciples seen in the conduct of the men who are represent
them.—( Hear.) Therefore, it comes to this ; shall we.
the middle and working classes, have a plan by which we
can be protected from destruction for giving our votes ;
and which shall cause gentlemen we send to Parliament to
show what arc the opinions of the majority of the district,
by the conduct they pursue ?—( Hear, hear.) I would
slot, if I were in the position of a candidate, pledge myself
to any set of principles ; but. I would shew by my conduct,
if I were chosen, what is the opinian of the people whom I
represented. There is one thing on which I wish to re-
mark, for much is said about it, while those who have been
in the world as long as I and my friend Mr. Webster be-
side me can stand the ridicule of the Tories ; but it is said,
that persons of our class, by interfering in These things, are
stepping out of our way. Now, Gentlemen, we are, I take
it, expressing a principle to-day which the majority of this
county entertains—(Applause)—and I think it is roved
by the fact that has come out since the distinctive die on
the stamps of newspapers has shown what number each
party publishes. The Tory paper of this county ; or, I
should say, this division of the county—publishes 50 per cent.
less than. the Radical paper, the Suffolk Chronicle. (Mr.
Childs referred to our Reporter if he were correct, and our
Reporter stated that the number of stamps issued to the two
papers during the six months ending the 30th June last, stood
thus on the Parliamentary return—SuPh: Chronicle,
64,000 ; Ipswich Journal, 41,900 ; leaving a majority for
the Suffolk Chronicle of twenty-two thousand one hundred
stamps.) Gentlemen (Mr. Childs proceeded to say), if
the Radical paper publishes 50 per cent. more than the
Tory paper, give us the Ballot, and we will elect men
who will support such a man as Lord Melbourne. lam
convinced that if we had the Ballot, in spite of all the
efforts of the Tories, both the people's candidates would
• have been elected.—(Tremendous cheers.) Look to us as
being coerced by the aristocracy ; see us beset as traders ;
we dare not move ; and let me ask you if there can be any
better plan than that which we propose ?—(Long and loud
applause.) The object of this meeting, I should state, is
simply to agree to a petition, copies of which we will get
signed throughout the different parishes and districts of this
division of the county. Mr. Childs then read, and moved
the adoption of, the petition, which was as follows :

GREAT FESTIVAL ON NATIONAL

EDUCATION.

(Abridged from the ilianekcster Times.)
The public meeting of the friends of education, as an-
nounced in our last Paper, was held on Thursday evening
at the Theatre Royal, Manchester. The arrangements
made by the Committee were of the most liberal kind. The
doors were opened at half-past five o'clock, and soon after
six the house was filled in all parts. The number of per-
sons present is ascertained to have been 2,200.
Precisely at seven o'clock MARK PHILIPS, Esq., our
highly-esteemed resident Representative, took the Chair.
On his right sat Thomas Wyse, Esq., the Member for
Waterford, Da. Jerrard,Member of the London Univer-
sity, Joseph Brotherton, Esq., M.P., Peter Ainsworth,
Esq., M.P. ; and on his left E. J. Stanley, Esq., M.P., G.
W. Wood, Esq., M.P., Mr. Wilderspin, the distinguished
conductor of Infant Schools, Mr. Absalom 'Watkins, and
Charles Hindley, Esq., M.P.
_ _

A few minutes alter seven o'clock the CHAIRMAN rose,
and said, that it was his duty to inform them that the Com-
mittee had placed in his hands a list of toasts, which he had
the satisfaction to announce did not admit of the slightest
political complexion.—(Cheers.) He might add, that it
was part of the design of the Committee to invite Lord
Brougham to honour the meeting with his company—(Ap-
plause)—and he held in his hand a letter, in which his
Lordship pleaded the illness of some members of his family
as a reason for his not complying with that invitation. He
would proceed to read it :

" St. Leonards, Oct. 16, 1837.
" Sir—l have had the honour of receiving your letter con-
veying to me the desire of the Manchester Committee that I
should attend the meeting about to be holden for the truly
important purpose of promoting education in this country, and
freeing us from the evil distinction which, I much fear, we
now possess, of doing less towards the attainment of so vast
an object, than any other of the more civilised nations in the
world.

" The humble Petition of the Inhabitants of the Town,
or Parish of and neighbourhood (being
the place from which the petition is to be sent), in
the county of Suffolk,
" Showeth—That your petitioners are assured that your
Honourable House is designed by the Constitution to re-
present the opinions of the people at large, and that a vote
in the election of a Member of your Honourable House is
an expression of the elector's conscientious choice, which
he is entitled to deliver, without responsibility to any other
person. That your petitioners affirm, as well from their
own observation as from public notoriety, that a system of
bribery has been so carefully organised, and intimidation
so extensively employed, that a very large proportion of
the votes given at a Parliamentary election represent
not the opinions of the respective electors, but the illegi-
timate influence of some other party. That your peti-
tioners believe the exertion of such influence is so general;
that society at large is becoming too familiar with such acts
to visit the offenders with proper reprobation. That legal
penalties are wholly powerless for their prevention ; and
that the effects of a general election, as now conducted, on
the public morals, are highly injurious. That your peti-
tioners arc fully persuaded that the intimidation, the bri-
bery, and the demoralization prevalent under the present
Representative system, cannot be effectually abated so long
as the practice of open voting is allowed to continue. They,
therefore, pray your Honourable House to adopt the Vote
by Ballot, by which means alone the franchise can be con-
scientiously and safely exercised." Mr.) Childs retired
amid loud cheers.
GEORGE ROBINSON, Esq. seconded the adoption of the
petition.

" It is unnecessary for me to assure you how highly I feel
myself honoured by the Committee's invitation, and how deeply
I lament my inability to accept it. The health of some parts
of my family, which brought me from Westmoreland two
months earlier than I almost ever left it before, makes it still
impossible for me to visit Lancashire before the meeting of
Parliament.

" Permit me to offer my congratulations to the well-wishers
of this great cause upon the occasion of so many of its friends
assembling together. I regard it as an event of signal im-
portance—one which can hardly fail to aid materially the ex-
ertions that must be made in the approaching session—one
which I am quite certain will be productive of the happiest
consequences in case those exertions should, from whatever
causes, prove unsuccessful, I would fain hope that the dis-
appointment of our just expectations is not likely to happen.
Nevertheless, in these times, it is good to be prepared for the
worst.

" Nothing in your letter has given me greater satisfaction
than the statement that those most respectable individuals of
the working-classes who have distinguished themselves by the
pursuit of knowledge, take an interest in the meeting. The
education of the working-classes generally, is beyond all com-
parison the most important subject to which the attention of
the country can be directed. But • I do desire not to be mis-
understood. Little as I should wish to mix political matters
with a question in which all parties ought to agree, because
all have the same interest in it, I must yet protest against the
supposition that we can ever regard any extension of educa-
tion as a substitute for the enjoyment of political rights. On
the contrary, I consider that the amplest extension of those
rights is only prevented by the limited enjoyment of the ad-
vantages of education ; and truly I know of no class in the
whole community more worthy of possessing those rights, or
more likely to use them conscientiously, independently, and for
the interests of the State both safely and beneficially, than the
well-informed artizans, who have already struggled with the
difficulties of their situation, and have provided for their own
instruction, notwithstanding the manifold defects of our pre-
sent system (if we can call it a system) of education.
" Heartily wishing all success to the meeting, and again
expressing my wish, that I- could have attended it, 1 have the
honour to be, yuur faithful obedient servant,

J. GARDEN, Esq. was received with deafening shouts of
applause. He said—l confess to you that I was, till a late
period, like our worthy Chairman, opposed to the Ballot ; •
but from what I have seen of recent elections, I have be-
come a convert to it.—(Cheers.) Not that I believe it '
will meet the case of bribery ; but that it will in a great
measure undermine that undue influence which is exercised
by the Aristocracy and the Clergy. I confess lam not so
willing to adopt the system of Voting by Ballot, if any
body can show me how an elector is to be protected in the
exercise of the franchise conferred upon him by the Le-
gislature. But I say thin, that the Legislature in conferring
that vote wished it should be conscientiously exercised—.
(Hear)—and if that conscience be coerced, I would call
on the Legislature to interfere and protect the voter ; and
even if the Ballot do not succeed, by all means let the ex-
periment be tried.—(Reiterated cheers.) These are my
sentiments ; and therefore I shall most cordially unite with
those gentlemen who desire to petition for the Vote by
Ballot. The Hon. Gentleman concluded in the midst of
the most hearty cheers.
Mr. CHILDS—One word as to the manner in which the
ballot works in America judge from its results. The
Americans have in fifty years got a Government that is now
on a level with any of the old Governments of Europe, is
competing with their commerce, and has brought their affairs
into such a state, that her own embarrassments have had
the effect of embarrassing the affairs of all the countries
in Europe. The position that country fills, being a child
of only fifty years old, is a phenomenon that could never
be obtained by the system of voting in our own country.
JOHN WEBSTER, Esq., of Bungay.—With regard to
the expenses of candidates, I appeal to the two gentlemen
in this room, (who have been candidates for this division
Of the county) whether, as Englishmen and freemen, we
Fight not to take care that there should he no such thing
at expenses to candidates.—(Prolonged approbation.) if
we rightly appreciate the value of freedom—of liberty—
we should go and select men to sit in Parliament as our
representatives, and say to them, " Gentlemen, we shall pay
for your attendance there.' I don't like their coming to
ask for our support, it seems as if they had some end of
their own in view ; let us not allow them to solicit us,
but let us solicit them, if they understand the interests of
the country. " You are the Gentlemen for us ; we should
be very glad if you will do us the honour to represent us."
—(llenewed applause.) Gentlemen, concluded Mr. Web-
ster, if we get the Ballot, it will tend to promote this
much-to-be-desired state of things.—(Loud cheering.)
A. S. ADAIR, Esq., on presenting himself, was greeted
with a burst of applause. The lion. Gentleman having
made some general observations on the coercion of electors
at the last election, said, in this cse, I was particularly
careful of the iestimony I received ; and I am anxious to
receive all the evidence possible, hut there is one species
of evidence which came direct to me at first hand. I speak
of the evidence of my own mind, and my own experience.
I have collected this evidence and this experience, not
from the thousand and one tales that are floating about in
the Election Committee-rooms, but I have gathered them
in the shops and tenements of the electors themselves.—
(Great applause.) I have heard, and with grief it was
that I heard it—l have heard the tones and the mingled
accents of indignation and of sorrow, in the voice of the
English elector, whom I have asked for his vote—(With
emotion)—Gentlemen, I have heard him say in Eng-
land, aye, in the ark of liberty, " Would to God that. I
hart no vote."—( Hear, hear.) Gentlemen, this is where I
gained my experience, and to me at least it has been satis•
factory.—(Repeated cheering.) With these " objects"
before my eyes it is impossible that I could take P-
other course, feeling as I do, that in advocion,
unrestsrained expression of the elector's 'the')'
bpinion, I am
acti-ng ou a far wider basis than LA '.:,'ecure the triumph r,f
part Continued approlr.fion.) Gentlemen) t speak for
"the people"—l speak for the people, w4spiker they be Whig
or Tory. I wotild ameliorate the tandition of all.—(Reites
rated cheers.) I would plate the representatitc system
nn that broad basis, that he who is opposed to me might
have as fair an opportunity of expressing his opinion as
it
who supports me.—(Great applamo.) Seeing that
there was an attempt by thy. Tory party to lower me in the
estimation of
12y you.r, irthe eletiors, and having been once honoured
so.mises of support, 1 have made these observa-
'tons, tlanking that your characters would be affected by
My Own standing fair, • (Mr. Adair's address was followed
by the liveliest marks. of approval.) We have, in Ipswich,
enoradeoeptsoumpteizetz
t that prevailed
in order to show up the system
the misfortune
Hear, hear.) At the
inn election we ha to lose Mr. Wason ; I
say misfortune, because it i well known that a more inde-
pendont man never sat within the House of Commons.
(Loud cheers.) Gentlemen, if we had at that election re-
'arced to the means which our opponents used so unscru-
piously, we should have been able to have returned Mr.
Wason and Mr. Tufnell, the two Reformers, by a great
majority—by at least a hundred!--(Loud cheeri.) But
it was not. only intimidation we had to contend against,
but it was a repetition, under the improved method of Mr.
Kelly, of the same system of bribery which prevailed when
he was on a former occasion returned. We endeavoured,
by having sufficient scouts out the night before the elec-
tion, to prevent their midnight schemes (schemes which,
of course, they would rather carry on by night than by
day). Unfortunately for us, they had their bludgeon men
in large numbers, who drove our scouts off the field, and
carried on their acts of bribery to a great extent. If the
Ballot had then existed, I am sure both Reformers would

" BROUGHAM.

" IV. R. Callender, Esq."
Another distinguished individual—one who was we,,
known here—one who had often appeared publicly in the
town, and who on all occasions had exhibited himself as the
friend and supporter of education—he meant his Grace
the Bishop of Norwich—it was expected would have ho-
noured the assembly with his presence ; but not having
been able to attend he had addressed a letter to the Se-
cretary, which he would also read :
" Palace, Norwich, Oct. 23.
" Sir,—Could I possibly absent myself from the profes-
sional duties of my diocese at the time you are so good as to
request my attendance at your meeting for the promotion of
general education, I would with pleasure accept your invita-
tion, as I know of no subject more interesting or more ur-
gently calling for the support of all who have the welfare
of the country at heart. I trust that the time is not far dis-
tant when men of every rank and station in life, and of every
profession and religious denomination—more especially of
that of which I am a member—will unanimously express
their opinions, and excite such a general feeling in its favour,
as to draw public attention to the necessity of extending and
enlarging the present limited systems of instruction, so as to
combine religious and useful knowledge, and establish schools
by which individuals may, with one mind and spirit, unite
for the attainment of so desirable an object.—l remain, yours
faithfully, " E. NORWICH."
" George Wilson, Esq."
He might mention further, that his right honourable col-
league, Mr. Poulett Thomson, had hoped to be present,
but attention to his official duties had rendered his presence
necessary in London. -He might say, however, from his
own personal knowledge of Mr. Thomson, that ns he was
the friend to education generally, he was decidedly favour-
able to the objects of this meeting ; that he had devoted
much of his attention to the establishment of a National
was Education ; and that he the friend also of extended
knowledge and information throughout every doss of the
community.—( Applause.)
The CHAIRMAN proposed " The health of her Majesty
the Queen ;" " The Queen Dowager ;" " The Duchess of
Kent and " The 'Duke of Sussex, the President of the
Royal Society, and the rest of the Royal Family,"
The CliArrimAx introduced Mr. Wilderspin to the meet-
ing, as the able and indefatigable advocate of infant school
education.

Mr. WunEasrm said, he had been so much accustomed
to speak to babies for the last twenty years, that he might
probably make some mistakes now that he was speaking to
men.—(Cheers, and laughter.) He stood up before the
assembly not as a theorist, but as a practical man, having
had 24,000 babies under his care in England, Scotland, and
Ireland.—(Chcers.) He was delighted at having that
opportunity of being present amongst that numerous and
highly-respectable assenibly, who were met together on the
subject of educatiati—a subject that ought to have received
their attention I.bng before. Upon this subject there was
a vital hna fundamental error going abroad. People
t".ought it was perfect nonsense to begin to educate chil-
dren at eighteen months old. He remembered that when,
seventeen years ago, he (Mr. Wilderspin stood up to advo-
cate the cause of infant education, they did him the honour
of saying that he was a 'little disordered in his upper or-
gans.—(Laughter.) It had been considered perfect non-
sense to teach children eighteen months or two years old ;
but be would say that they might begin to teach children
who were only six moiiths old.—( Hear.) He was a pro-
fessor of babyism (or art of teaching babies), and eighteen
years ago they laughed him to scorn, but he believed he
should live
,to see the day when the study of the infant
mind would not be considered a degrading study even to
the wisest philosophers.—(Cheers.) Whether they be-
lieved him or not, he could assure them that he never
bad a child out of the twenty-five thousand which he had
had to deal with in England, Ireland, and Scotland, that he
could not manage ; but he had found that in order to
manage them properly they must be managed by love
and not by fear.—(Hear, hear.) This was a subject
well worthy the attention of our legislators.—( Hear.)
Mr. Wilderspin then gave an illustration of his mode of en•
forcing obedience from infants, and instanced a public exa-
mination of some infants, by himself, some time ago in the
town of Bury. This mode of instruction had for its object
the pleasing of the children, and by gaining their affections
ultimately ensuring obedience. The teacher reduces him-
self to the level of the infant, and first does those things
which he wishes to be imitated by the infants. Mr. Wil-
derspin next gave an account of the day on which lie had
first managed an infants' school in London, in which there
were two hundred infants, without having a single book of
any kind in the establishment. He played at " ducks and
drakes" with the children, and pulling off his coat said he
should be the big duck, as he wanted obedience. He then
told the children that when he went round the room saying
" Quack, quack, quack," they must follow him.--(Roars of
laughter.) He then offered some strictures on the system
of instruction adopted in the dame and other schools of this

THE SUN LON DON, TUESDAY, OCTO Blo, It 31, 18.;7

country, contending that the systcm was not calculAted for

,he furtherance oleducation.

The CHAIRMAN next gave the " Philosophical Society
and the other philosophical institutions of Manchester."
Mr. \Won rose and was ldudly cheered, tie said, after
the very amusing, highly-instructive, and truly philosophi-
cal address which they had just heard from the distinguished
and excellent individual who had honoured that festival

with his presence, he felt that he had but few observations
with which to trouble the meeting. It was his thorough
conviction that the scientific and literary institutions of Man-
chester were as creditable to the character of the town as
was that career of honourable and commercial undertaking,
and its successful pursuits, by which it is distinguished.
Amongst the philosophical societies and institutions of the
town, the one which bore the title of the Literary and Phi-
losophical Society, stood first in rank as it did in age. It
was now more than 50 years since some of the leadieg inha-
bitants of Manchester formed the liberal plan of the insti-

tution, and undertaking it for their mutual improvement.
This society distinguished itself by being the first provincial
society in the British empire which published its transac-
tions to the world—a circumstance which early drew to it
the attention of scientific Europe, and which had always
b3en considered as one of its most distinguishing features.
About 189.0 the Natural History Society of this town was
founded. Three years later the Royal Institution was
formed, and for this the sum of 30,000/. was subscribed in a
short time. It was for the encouragement of science, litera-
ture, and arts. The next year saw the Mechanics' Insti-
tution rise—(Cheers)—at a cost of 7,0001. Next in the
list came the Athentoum—(Cheers)—when in the space
of a few weeks the sum of 10,0001. was subscribed, in order

43,304
The number of persons receiving education of some kind or
other is thus, 21.65 per cent. of the whole population. De-
ducting 10,000 for scholars under 5 and above 15, which is
probably somewhat less than the truth, and taking 50,000, the
number of children between 5 and 15, it would appear that
only two-thirds (33,000) were educated, and one-third were
receiving no instruction at all.
Sgford.—Population 55,000.
Receiving no instruction 3,003, 221 per cent. of population.
Buy.—Population ...20,000.
. .

Receiving no education... 700.
Liverpool—Population :
Number' of children between
5 and 5
57,200.

Receiving education 27,200.
Receiving no education 30,000, more than half.
In short not more than one half of the entire number of
children of England had at this moment the means of being
educated.—(Hear.) Well might the Commissioners in
their Report to the House of Commons say that an im-
menre number are without instruction, whilst their parents
were anxious to obtain it. In fact if they looked for the
people's schools, where would they find them but in some
garret or cellar, conducted by a broken down soldier or
superannuated old woman, who was fit for nothing else, and
certainly not fit for that purpose. Mr. Wyse then went on
to describe the nature of the education given in the schools
of Prussia, the expense of which is defrayed by a tax on
the whole community. From the system pursued there
was no sacrifice of the powers of the body to the mind,
or of the powers of the mind to the body. In addition
to the native language, German, Latin, Natural His-
tory, &c. were taught, and this for the enormous ex-
pense of 365. a year for each scholar. Such was the
system of instruction now practised in the German States,
Nassau, Bavaria, Switzerland, Prussia, and Denmark.
Did not the people of these countries, in consequence
of their education, rival ourselves in order, intelligence,
and tranquillity ? But a few years ago Switzerland was
remarkable for its disorganization ; but such had been
the recent improvement in the government and internal
management of its affairs, that the importation of ma-
chinery was allowed, and trade was rendered free—thus
encouraging exportation, by permitting imports to their
owa country. Prussia, with her dame schools as bad as
ours, and their endowments as bad as ours—with bad
teachers and worse scholars, was contented with her sys-
tem ; but, in 1770, one arose amongst them who pointed
out the evil and its remedy. This remedy was a system
truly national, which was uniformly established throughout
the country.—(Hear, hear.) It was imitated in all the
other States of Germany, and finally France itself, who had
repudiated education at the time of the Revolution, sent
out her first philosopher, and he came back and naturalised
the Prussian system in France. He thought it was time that
this country should look forward to a system of national
education. How was it to be obtained ? He should say that
the Government on one side should give the impulse by the
foundation of schools, and supply them with teachers ; but
that on the other side the people should have a salutary
controul over them in the appointment of their own teachers
and committees of management. The committee should
have the power of deciding whether a school, may be neces-
sary in each district. In Switzerland the Government pro-
vided the means of establishing the school, the only thing
required in return being that the scholars should be afforded
a certain amount of physical and intellectual education ;
that they should have good teachers and report to Govern-
ment, in order that it might be seen that they properly ex-
pended the money of the State. So he would have it here.
He gave great praise to the Ministry for what they had
done ; they had a shown a zeal for the education of the
many ; and if they had not gone to the full length which
they desired, it was because their hands had been manacled,
and they had been waiting for a favourable opportunity to
throw their manacles off.—(Tremendous cheering.) They
had admitted that the State was the father of the sub-
jects, and that education belonging to all ought to be the
care of all. They had admitted in Ireland a system
fitted for Ireland, and they had gone as far in Eng-
land as circumstances would allow. With respect
to the extent, he would have it eo-extensive with the
nation, and he trusted that we should vindicate our
system of education from the disturbance of fanaticism on
one side and from the divisions of sect on the other.
Carrying into effect such a system of education, we should
no longer be the scorn and scoff of surrounding nations.
When a few years back he first stood in the House of
Commons as its advocate, he had to fight the battle nigh t
after night single-handed, without having even a seconder
to support him in the struggle. He had then the same
hopes of success as fie had now in the midst of thousands!
The Hon. Gentleman sat down amidst long-continued

to bring into existence this institution, which it was consi-
de7ed would prove serviceable to the town. But it was yet
too early to say anything with regard to its labours. These
were the labours of the last and present generation with
respect to philosophical and literary institutions ; but these
institutions were intended for the already instructed few,
and could only be serviceable to those who had already ac-
quired a considerable amount of education. They did little
for the mass of the people, who had as lively an interest in
education as the most rich and talented man. The first
attempt to educate the people at large was owing to the ex-
ertions of a most benevolent individual, the founder of

Sunday-schools. Having read some statements tending to
shew that ignorance is one great source of crime, Mr. Wood
proceeded. I would have concluded my observations but
for some circumstances which came to my knowledge yes-
terday. My attention was called yesterday to a pam-
phlet having reference to the meeting of this evening.—
(Thunders of applause.) I purchased the pamphlet,
which I referred to the first opportunity I had, and I
feel bound to say that I find in it little deserving, in my
mind, of our attention on this occasion. We most assuredly
ought, and I would have called your attention to it, were
it not for the respect I feel for the sacred character, and
were it not for the affection with which a Minister of
Christ's holy gospel is viewed by a Christian community ;
but, on reading the pamphlet, I find myself most especially
justified in calling your attention to it, when I find that its
Rev. Author describes himself as the " accredited guar-
dian" of the moral and religious interests of the people. I
find in this pamphlet a warning which I will take the liberty
of reading to you, for peradventure there may be some
among you who have not heard of this warning.—(Cheers.)
The Rev. Author says—" Inhabitants of Manchester ! be
not then trepanned by plausible pretexts into sanctioning a
scheme which appears to be unnecessary, unfair, unhal-
lowed, and injurious."—( Loud hisses.) I know not whether
that expression of feeling was directed against me or the
sentiments contained in the pamphlet.—(Cries of " Not
intended for you, Sir," and tremendous cheering.) " As-
certain your ground before you venture upon it. You
have the character of being a prudent people ; vindicate
your claim to that distinction at the present juncture."
The pamphlet appeals to some of the strongest feelings
of human nature—to some of the strongest im-
pulses which actuate the human mind. We are
asked if we are willing to permit the mutilation of
the Scriptures.—(Hear.) I trust that it is not necessary,
that any mutilation of the sacred volume should take place.
But am I to be told in a Christian and a Protestant land
that no endeavour shall be made to give religious and moral
education to the vast multitudes who were in ignorance and
sin ? Be not afraid, come what may. Be not deterred by
what may seem to be the fears of a Popish mind, or the
monkish garb of the Protestant Minister of a Christian
Church.—The Honourable Gentleman sat down amidst
tremendous cheering.
The CHAtamaN said the next toast was what might be
deemed the particular toast of the evening. It was " Na-
tional Education," and he begged to introduce to the meet-
ing his Hon. Friend upon his right, Mr. Wyse, the Mem-
ber for Waterford. The toast was received with bursts of
applause.

Twos. WYSE, Esq., rose amidst loud demonstrations of
applause, which lasted for several minutes. On its subsi.
ding he said (reading from the Rev. Hugh Stowell's pam
phlct)-4. Inhabitants of Manchester, be not trepanned by
plausible pretexts in sanctioning a scheme which appears to
be unnecessary, unfair, unhallowed, and injurious." So say
I.—(Cheers and laughter.) " Ascertain your ground be-
fore you enter upon it." So say I.—(Renewed cheers and
laughter.) " You have the character of being a prudent
people ; vindicate your claim to that distinction at the
present juncture." So say I.—(Continued cheering and
bursts of "laughter.) " Do not by your presence swell
the influence of a meeting which, to say the least of
it, presents itself under a most suspicious guise."
Let the magnificent manifestation of feeling on this occa-
sion give the writer the answer to his assumption.—(Tre-
mendous and long-continued bursts of cheering, accompa.
panied by waving of handkerchiefs and hats.) No, it is no
ordinary meeting. In times of great political and sectarian
hostility we are assembled here on a great and important
question.—( Hear.) It is no political, no sectarian, no
party meeting : we arc assembled here to-night not to give
ascendancy to any man, but light and heat to all.—(Cheers.)
There is no sect here but Christianity. No citizens here
but of one State, assembled here for one object—the culti-
vation of the human mind.—(Cheers.) Who have a
better and a deeper responsibility attached to them than
the mothers and sisters and wives of Englishmen in the
great cause in which we are assembled ?—(hear.) To
whom is the destiny of young England confided, but
to them ? They make our future.—(Loud cheers.)
This, then, is our answer, and the presence of this great
assembly is a proof that we have not needed an ad-
monition even from the accredited guardian of the re-
ligious interests of Manchester.—(Laughter.) There
are four descriptions of men who oppose educa-
tion. The first class are opposed to it as an evil in
itself ; another admit the propriety of education, but
arc divided upon its means ; the third class assent to the
meaning of education, but imagine tbat we have it ; the
fourth arc convinced that we are without it, and yet cross
their arms and remain where they are. The first class are
of two descriptions—one the wise in their generation, but
also the corrupt ; and the others are the honest but the
wise, those who hate and those who fear it. These are the
men who detest education, because they love power, and
they know that education is power.—(Cheers.) They know
it, and they would sooner place a despot on the Throne
than give it to the people. These are the men who would
extinguish the language of Poland from amongst its inha-
bitants—who opposed the spread of education in France at
the time of the revolution—the men who oppose its intro-
duction among the slaves of the West Indies, and who
would have still kept Ireland in its shackles. These are
the men who detest education for the people, and who value
it only as for themselves. But while they inflict the lash,
they should recollect that it may be turned against them-
selves. It is not always that the knave can find the fool
to be his instrument. The other oppor eats of education
are they who regard it as placing a steam-engine in the hands
of the child—who look forward to its consequences with ap-
prehension, lest it should produce mischief. These are they
who dread an eN it in every new discovery of science—who
regard the balloon as it soars in space as trespassing upon
the domain of the Almighty—who believe that the geolo-
gist is undermining religion by his discoveries—and who
believe that philosophy is but another name for irreligion.
Why should there be any Braminical law to tie up this
arm ? The God who gave us the arm gave us the instinct
to think !—(Cheers.) There arc those who think that
to give the people the power to use their thinking faculties
would be to arm man with a power dangerous to himself.
And is it the church—a protesting church—that would op-
pose education ? A church calling on men to inquire—a
church calling upon man to judge according to his in-
quiry—and a church, too, calling upon men to act ac
cording to their honest judgment after such inquiry—
is such a church to stand forward at this hour against the
progress of light amongst the people ?—(Hear.) Is it to
say that it deposes merely to usurp ?—( Hear, hear.) Is it
to say that when it opens the book of life, and prides itself
upon the achievement, it should set its seal upon that other
book, and prevent man from finding out in it new evidences
of the existence and omnipotence of Divine Providence,
and new motives for adoring the munificence of his God ?
(Loud cries of " Hear," and cheers.) Such a church I
do not believe the Protestant Church to be! I must vin-
dicate its faith against its anti-protestant supporters.
The Hon. Member then adverted to the opposition which
had always been held out in this country against education
in every shape—the difficulties which Lancaster and Bell
had to contend with in their systems. The Sunday-school
system came in its turn, and that too met with its opposi-
tion, and was stigmatised as a base and unhallowed system !
—( Hear.) The opponents of national education said we
must have the Bible—the whole Bible, in the schools.
This he should not oppose—nav, he would go much fur-
ther than they did, for he believed that an intellectual and
physical education, without moral education, was like put-
ting arms into the hands of the fool or the madman.--

cheering and waving of handkerchiefs.
Mr. ABSALOM WATKIN then proposed " The Ladies ;
and may the importance of that early education for which
we are indebted to females be dtily appreciated."
The healths of Dr. Jerrard, and of Mr. Mathias, of the
United States, were afterwards proposed. The former
gentleman, in responding., entered into a variety of parti-
culars, explanatory of the restrictions imposed by the uni-
versities of Oxford, Cambridge, and Dublin, and of the li-
beral scheme of management of the London University.
Mr. E. J. STANLEY said the proceedings of the evening

had been to him a source of the greatest gratification, as
well as the appearance of the brilliant •assenably and the im-
posing demonstration it had conveyed. He felt that an im-
portant step had been made towards rectifying the errors
and deficiencies in our national education which all persons

must deplore. He should, with great pleasure, propose
" The health of their worthy friend and Chairman."—(Ap-
plause.) The toast was drunk amid enthusiastic cheers.
Mr. MARK PHILIPS expressed his thanks. He begged
to say that he had long been convinced of the necessity of a
rational, sound, and well-defined system of national educa-
tion, and that conviction had been greatly increased by the
statistical documents published, showing the state of educa-
tion in this town. No reflecting mind could contemplate the
information thus conveyed without feeling the necessity of a
better system of education being provided. The present
meeting, he felt assured, would be instrumental of great
good, and that the friends of education here would soon come
to a sound and rational conclusion as to the best mode of
bringing about, in a practical form, the views which bad been
so ably developed that evening. They might build hospitals,
and increase institutions for the physical aid of their
fellow-creatures, and eo relieve their bodily wants ; but
-there was a misery far more deep than that of the body,
a disease infinitely more to be dreaded, and that was igno-
rance. In this Christian country we only half discharged
our duty if, while we attended to the temporal condition
of the people, and looked after their physical wants, their
moral culture was neglected.—(Applause.) The Chairman
concluded by giving the health of the working classes.
Mr. Suers" of Edinburgh, addressed the Assembly.—
What is that education ? It is the exaltation of the whole
man—the elevation of the physical, intellectual, and moral
character of society ; the practical realization of the be-
nevolent in supremacy over the selfish system, the know-
ledge of the creation of God and man's place in it ; all
that shall enlighten, refine, moralize ; all that shall change
the heart and purify the life - all the best fruits of the best
use of both books of Revelation, the book of Scripture,
and the book of nature. Woe to him that would teach
either of these without the other.—(llear, and cheers.)
Agitate, never cease to agitate, this great question. Why
should you not agitate ? Is agitation not called for when
there is stagnation—stagnation which breeds the pestjlence
of vice and crime ? Agitation is a grand law of hawse.
(Mr. S., with much .effect, pointed to the large and chastely-
simple transparency of the words " National Education,"
illuminated at the back of the stage, accidentally sur-
mounted by the Royal arms.) Did anything like that ever
grace the stage—the stage said to be a school of taste, re-
finement, and improvement ?—(Cries of " Never.") Look
at the emblem that surmounts it., the banner of your
youthful and enlightened Queen. Is it much to hope that
this great enterprise will crown her gentle and benevolent
reign ; will add to a name expressive of " Victory," not in
the fields of slaughter, but of light and virtue, the noble,
the yet unclaimed title ef" The Educator?"—(Loud cheers.)
Then compare a Caesar or a Napoleon with her. Soared
their eagles to such a height ? Compare their millions
slaughtered to her millions blessed, and award the prize as
you may..
The CHAIRMAN, after expressing a strong hope that the
spirited proceedings of that evening would lead to results
most gratifying to the friends of education in this town, in
the establishment of institutions in which solid and useful
instruction would be given, entreated his hearers to go
home, consider well what they had heard, and when they
did act to do so in concert, and under the great and guid-
ing principles of justice and regard to their fellow-men.
The company immediately afterwards retired, all highly
gratified with the moral and intellectual treat that had been
provided.

The Prussian Minister is expected to arrive in
from Berlin, early next week.

;own

ADELPIII THEATRE

(Cheers.) Above all he wonld advise, if they must have
a national system of education, not to have a division: He
knew not of a Unitarian nation, of a Catholic nation, or of A new historical burletta (!), an adaptation of the French
a Protestant nation—he knew but of a British nation, and I piece, La Gnerre des Servanks, was produced at this
therefore he would say let us have none but a British na- Theatre last night. The scene is in Prague—epoch, as
tional system of education.—(Loud cheers.) Did such a the bills say, 81,3. At this time Preinislaus, an old King,
system of education exist in England? (" No.") He loses his wife, and refuses to marry his slave Valsha (Mrs.
should best meet the assertions of those who said that Yates), notwithstanding a promise. The laws of Prague
the means of education in the country were ample, by requiring a Queen, the old gentleman retires, and makes
appealing to the facts shown in the statistical returns way for his son Ludgar, who is married to the fair Marie,
furnished by a number of gentlemen who had collected I Princess of Hungary (Miss Lee). Valsha, meanwhile,
them with great care and trouble, and whose character breathes vengeance, and takes an opportunity to effect the
was above impeachment. These returns were as follow : formidable catastrophe of an insurrection of all die female
NUMBER OF SCHOOLS AND SCHOLARS. slaves in the city. The cmeute is successful, as that of the
Manchester.=-Population 200,000, of whom three days, chiefly through the assistance of certain Saxon
10,108 attend day and evening schools only, prisoners, and the exertions of a nondescript ruffian (O.
10,01 I attend both day and evening schools. Smith), named Graff, who, strange to narrate, entertains
23,185 attend Sunday schools only. a jealousy towards the young King, in consequence of
his Muji sty's marriage with the Princess of Hungary.
The incident is one to strike the imagination without
one knowing why. Valsha being triumphant is made
Queen, and entertains her friends at a banquet. She fur-
ther imprisons the Prince. The Pragueians; however, who
are not of her party; become indignant and insurrectionary
in turn, and, she compels the-Prince to go forward to a con-
venient balcony to _quiet them ; but he, like a proper
Prince, only urges them to arms and the rescue. For this
he is condemned to lose his head, which is about to be
disconnected with his body, when a Nurse rushes forward
and proclaims that he is the son of Valsha herself. Tre-
mendous emotion succeeds ; the supposed son is freed, and
Valsha willingly resigns her new authority to him.
.We
should have mentioned, had we been able to insert the
circumstance before, that Graff, for his services, has been
allowed to carry off the Princess of Hungary. This is a
dreadful affliction to the young King ; but, after a while,
the abducted Marie is rescued, and restored, through
the instrumentality of a buffoonish wine-merchant, per-
sonated by Mr. Wilkinson. The ruffian is also taken, and
is sentio prison like a wild beast, to be put to death on a
proper occasion. -The whole catastrophe is effected through
the following concluding string of incidents. Valsha disarms
her Amazons and Saxons ; the King then turns in, and
declares that the whole story of the nurse was a fabrication.
He is not her son—the people require her death, and she is
to be flung from a great tower. No executioner is found
for the task. Graff, for vengeance sake, volunteers, and,
horrid to narrate, Valsha is hurled from the tower accord-
ingly. No sooner is this done than it comes to light that
Graff was the son of Valsha, and that personage, performing
the only good act of his life, flings himself down the same
airy road by which he had sent his parent to paradise. To
enhance the emotion naturally excited by all these
tragic events, the young King, who has been mer-
cifully pleading with the mob for Valsha's life, rushes
on the stage at this crisis, to announce that he has obtained
that boon. Luckily, he is too late, or the great scene
of scenes in the piece would have been spoiled, and a
crowded audientle have been grievously disappointed. This
interesting narrative only leaves us room to remark gene•
rally that the whole burletta was got up with a spirit
worthy of all the old exertions and special taste of this
theatre. The numerous scenes were all strikingly painted
and arranged, and the dresses, especially of the female
warriors, and general paraphernalia, were all of the most
picturesque description, both in colour and form. The
music was by a gentleman of the Italian opera, with whose
fame we do not happen to have been hitherto acquainted.
Mrs. Yates was admirable, as usual, both in her heroic
scenes and those of a more tender character. 0. Smith
was, need we say, a prodigious ruffian. The audience was
delighted, notwithstanding the severe manner with which
all its feelings were dealt with by the remorseless author
and actors. In a word, the piece was most triumphantly
successful.

UNFOUNDED REPORT OF THE

CHOLERA IN THE RIVER.

Yesterday morning, on Mr. Ballantine taking his seat on
the bench at the Thames Police-office, he said that he had
read a report in a Sunday Journal that the cholera was
raging on board the Dreadnought Hospital-ship, lying in
the river, and he believed an impression was entertained
that that malignant disease had appeared on the river. He
believed the report to be entirely unfounded ; but, in order
to satisfy the public mind, he should direct Mr. Evans, the
principal surveyor of the Establishment, to make inquiries
on board the Dreadnought and on other parts of the river,
to ascertain if there was any foundation for the report. If
such a disease existed in any part of the metropolis. prepa-
ratory. measures ought to be immediately adopted to pre-
vent its extension. If there were no foundation for the re-
port which existed, the public mind ought to be disabused as
early as possible.
Mr. Evans proceeded, by direction of the Magistrate,
down the river, and on his return in the evening he stated
that he had been on board the Dreadnought, and there
was not a word of truth in the statement that the cholera
bad broken
.out in three wards of the Hospital. There
had not been a single case of cholera on board, or anything
like it. The diseases of the patients were of the ordinary
description. He had made inquiries in other parts of the
river, and ascertained that the disease had not manifested
itself in any shape, and that the crews of the shipping were
generally healthy. The officers must have received early
information if a ease of cholera had existed in,any part of
the river.

Mr. BALLANTINE said the statement of the chief sur-
veyor was highly gratifying, and he hoped it would go forth
to the public, through the medium of the daily journals,
that the disease called cholera did not exist, and had not
lately -existed in the port of London ; and that the state-
ment respecting the Dreadruniyht was erroneous. It
could not be too extensively known that the Hospital-ship-
was free from the cholera. Some alarm existed on the
subject, and he was sure the conductors of the public press
would be glad to allay it, and prevent any interruption to
the commerce and business of the port and the river.
In the course of the day the Magistrate was informed
that the land district, comprisinc, the parishes of St. George,
Ratcliff; Shadwell ; St. John, Wapping ; St. Katharine ;
and St. Botolph Without, Ahlgate, were generally healthy,
and that no case of cholera had been heard of, nor were any
apprehensions entertained by the inhabitants respecting the
disease.

We have made inquiry at the east end of the metropolis
of surgeons in extensive practice, and we are enabled to
state that not one of those medical men of whom we have
inquired have had a single case of cholera, though many of
them are busily engaged in the most densely populated
districts in the ease of typhus fever, and that dreadful malady
the small-pox ; but we are glad to say that no case of cholera
has occurred in thcit practice.

Lady Mary Pelham, sister to the Earl of Chichester,
has been appointed Lady of the Bedchamber to her Royal
Highness the Princess Augusta, vice Lady Louisa Corn-
wallis resigned. The Princess, however, being a visiter at
present to the Qacen Dowager, has not any lady of the
estaMishment at Hastings.

ABOLITION OF THE PENNY POSTAGE ON
NEWSPAPERS.—We are happy to have it in our power to
state, for the information of persons residing in those parts
of the neighbourhood which have a communication with
Manchester by penny posts, that the postage heretofore
chargeable on Manchester Newspapers sent by such posts
has at length been abolished by a regulation of the Post-
master-General. All parties, therefore, residing at Old-
ham, Ashton, Saddleworth, Wilmslow, and various other
places similarly situated. who have heretofore been charged
a penny with each paper, will now be entitled to receive
their papers free; provided they reside within the limits of
the ordinary delivery of letters, or send to the Post-office
for their papers. Of course it must be understood that this
regulation does not extend to Newpapers addressed to par-
ties residing within the limits of free delivery in the place
where the papers are posted. The following is a copy of
the official notification on the subject by the Secretary of
the Post-office :

TO ALL POSTMASTER 3.

General Post-office, Oct, 20, 1837.

I request you will immediately discontinue charging penny
postage upon Newspapers put into your office for persons re-
sidirl BEYOND the limits of the free delivery of letters; and
you will continue to charge that rate on th3se Newspapers
only which arc deposited in your office, addressed to persons
within the free delivery of the town.
Newspapers which arrive at your office by the General Post
for places within the penny post, or which arc put into a penny
post for conveyance by the General Post to other towns, are
still to be delivered free of penny postage.
By Command, W. L.MABEItLEY, Secretary.
—Manchester Guardian.

NEW MONTHLY MAGAZINE AND HUMORIST.—
Under Mr. Hook's able management, this periodical has
become a welcome favourite every where, and most de-
servedly. It now ranks among its contributors the most
distinguished writers of the present day. - The number for
November promises to be one of unusual attraction. We
observe the following papers announced among its leading
contents :—The continuation of that admirable series " The
Gurney Papers," by the Editor himself.—" Life in the
East," by M. J. Quin, Esq., the popular author of a " Steam
Voyage Down the Danube."—A very appropriate paper for
the present season, called " Recollections of Guy Fawkes,"
by Douglas Jerrold, Esq., who has also contributed another
article, entitled " Brown, Jones, and Robinson."—" The
Manager's Note Book," raid to be by a Gentleman who
has long presided over our national theatres.—" Alpine
Sketches," by T. C. Grattan, Esq.—" The Great Western
Jungle," by an Old Forest Ranger.—" Recreations in
Natural History."—Poems, by L. E. L.—" The Swiss Cot-
tage," by one of the authors of " Rejected Addresses."—
We are not surprised to hear that The New Monthly has
rapidly risen in the public estimation under the present
management.