The Sun.
London, England, 1830-07-03 00:00:00

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS.;

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(MKS THIS MOISINO,
I. Mr. A flawed—ll eturn, 'showing (according to the beet
mate which coo be ((mufti) the amount of Jnitey own.
rank to the payurent of Ott: Creditor. of the Nabob of the
which, ott the %id) April, It<lo, was 11/Veit/4 ill
OM MtMei tut the - Commlisioner. for lovedisunity, th
Claim of such Creditor., or which theft remained in thee
hood. of kite Lost bole Company, (Tuetday, July 03
'2. 31r. liume—To reprint the 'reports of ISI2 and MIA from
Couttuittoce Oil the Civil List. atteaday, July o.)

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

11OUSE OF LOIIDSe.-(LAST NIGIIT.)
In the absence of the Lent Choicelior, the „Earl
SHAM:War took his seat on the Wooing* at Five
o'clock.
HIS MAJESTY'S ANSWER TO THE ADDRESS.
The illsrquie of CONYNOHAM, as Lord Steward of
the Houtehold, oresented lathe House his Majesty's An.
ewer to the Address, which
The Red of till AFTESHURY read as follows ; -." My
Linde, l thank your Lorilrhips fur your loyal and Aro
tionate Address. It stlords me the greett watiefaction,
and 1 rely on your determination to adopt, without
daddy, wets measures as the eatigeritiaa of the public ',ser-
vice may require."
SHUBENACADDIE CANAL BILL.
Visenunt AIELYILLE moved the second reading of
this Bill.
Lord DURHAM bad before made some inquiries con-
cerning this Bill, and could get no information ghoul it;
and he mutt object to Bills of that description passing as a
matter of course. He could not help himself if the Noble
Viscount pressed his 'Motion, but he must object to passing
Bills without knowing anything of the lidded to which
they related, especially Bills like this, which went to grant
the public money.
Viscount MELVILLE explained, that the Bill was in-
tended to empower the Treasury to lend 50,0001. to a
Company which had undertalten to make an inland navi-
gation from Halifax to the Bay of Fundy. The Corn-
p piny Watt toloisks a river navigefile, which would not only
be very adviudagrous to the Colony, but to the public
geuerally, and partieularly to that branch of the public
service over which lie had the hooour to preside.
Viscount GODERICII did not et , all doubt the pro.;
priety of the pima Bill, or mean in any manner to ob_
ject to it ; but he did not think, as the.Nobto Viscount
I Noma to think, 1140 ouch Bills explained thennelver, and
were to lie passed Ate mitten/ of Mule.
Lord DURHAM was ready to admit, that the loan of
money would be very beneficial to Nova Scotia; but he
objected, on principle, to approprieting the puirlio money
to works for the benefit of the colonies. Ihohleis, 'this
particular case, he thought money might be found, b
y
looking to the fond* raised in Nova Scotia itself; and, if
it could, it was not advisable In appropriate the two of
this country to Out purpose. 'lie tbotight there was pond
reason to recommend a reform in the financial adminie.
tratiou of that country ; and,. till that were done, he
should object to appropriating any money for works in
that Colony. It appeared by a return laid before the
Finance Committee, that the revenue of Nov* Seotis
was 88.860!., and that no lees Oleo 20,00()1. of this was
expended in snaking roads and canals, and building bridges ;
and hi begged tete,/ to ask why e part of this money could
nut be appropriated to the making of the Shulteneceddle
Canal? The Government, too, bad been obliged to ask
10,0001. for the payment of the Civil List of the colony.
!Lai, thew, wee 20,000/. tile revenue of the colony spent,
and he was sonvineed that the expenditure might be re-
formed. Thu, salaries of the different oflieers was too
large. There was a Comptroller of the Customs With
2,000/. a year, and the Customs of the Collmy were
levied at au tiptoe. of 80 per cent. Beehive, the
Comptroller there was a Colleeter, with 1,0001. a yew. ;
two Waiters, with 400/. a year; two GateColleetors, with
4001. a lost, and other officer.; melting, altogether, a
, 'charge 00,1401. a 'veer for collecting a revenue ofB,oool.
ruder such eircumetenees time Howie ought to pause be-
fore it vented any money for any purposes in thii calla
There was also attallowsnee for a fishing vessel of 1,600!. ;
sod time Ciovernor of the King's College had 1,0001. a
year ; anti the Bishop hail 2,000/. a year ; while the
;• (Thief Justice-.arid to this he begged the Lord Chan-
crilor'e attention—had only 8001., and the Attorney-
General 140/. If the Noble Viscount were right in grad-
ing the retain tummy for much purposes, his Noble Col.
league sitting Reside him must be wrong. The Mike 01
in answer to an appliettiou of the Thames
Tunnel Coogan), for aid, declined to grant any. 'The
Noble Lord saw time Duke of Wellington's answer, in which
hie Grace stated that, in his opinion, the soon welded
fur time rompletion of the Tunnel could not possibly he
granted under existing circurnst Wee—that it war contrary
to hie priuciples to woke any Arleta of public money or
. loan, cud that it wee incumbent on hint to avoid every
expense lint what was immediately allettd to the country.
He thought that the determination of the Noble Uuke was
quite correct ins principle, d he hoped his Grace would
not think the present e a proper exception. Ile should
objeet to the second reading of the Bill, and move as au
sowedinent, that it be read a second time We day six
' montite.
The Duke of WELLINGTON admitted the correctness
the Noble Lord's question, but staled that there was a
differenes between grant* sod loans. In the present ra'e,
the goal, as his Noble Friend bad explained, would be
wistful to the public as well as to the colony. On that
• ground it was tupposeil to he proper to assist the Company
with a loan which time Company was bound to repay, In
time case of the Thames, Tunnel the Company objected to a
leen, because they could not pay the Interest on it. Under
those circumstances the °On/Matta thought it right not
o to advance any Money.
Lord KING could not see any difference between, a loan
ands grant-eat lead WO* very often became grant., and
he thought it war right to object to both. There was the
Otto de loan granted to the city of Londonderry, of I 4•000 i
for buil/Boot bridge over the Boyne in 1814, on which no
interest heel ever been paid, anti now neither principal nor
interest was to be obtained. He was mini:Wed, indeed,
diet there was a Treasury Minuto to suspend the demand*
e, for e4ther.. Loans, theteture, might be grants; and one
was rus had as the other.
Viscount OODERICH thought dolt Lordships ought
be sward of the security for the payment of the money.
The basks of WELLINGTON said the toils were mart.
geglei for the ;Aymara of the Interest,
Lord TiYNHAM supported the .
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY only wither) to say
time shy of Londonderry held Itself reoponsible fur the
money folvanteil.
Lord DURHAM did not pros his etnetolownt to a diet-
ohm,. end the Hill was MIA a wand time.
Ills Lonositir gave notice, that when the Bill wrot into
a Committee, he should move that the Thames Tunnel he
sulmetinoted for the Shubensceddie Canal.—(A 14410
The gut of )10S$LYN moved, that the Bill for furl.
litating criirminel trials In Scotland be cotatnitteiL The
Noble End explaitiemi the object of the Bill, which was to
Aorta% the dine between the peseing of sentence and
cerryiug iato exeoutiott ;to do away with:the punishment
of banishment in certsiu ewe, and make other tegulatimmus.
Lord 'WHARNCLIFFE took the opportunity to re.
mirk, that this Bill was a good illustration of whet ho hired
on homer oceasieue urged on the attention of the House.
No oilier iouilielitioist was tobetituted for benielonent, amid
there (x,tild hd oasts by that douse, lleeittiatt it could nut
order a fie?t,a ,a inlliictisd,withoet terteptasiog on tile psi.
• vileges of the tiro/al at Commons.
wont through a Committee ; time report to bo
reeadoed on Wedge,
ROD litiVrEoßo tANC<`IIII4 BILL.
Thif Memel* of LONDONDERRY, adtc(filig to 114
crowded moms er book of the Howie, the omfatter of wit.
new yes to ha esensinod (Afty,assetil, and the feet that
the &Woo was scut to he protracted beyond tint rth
m oo m
, oved that the farther emansideratiou of this 10 I is,
edjouritiot six*
The Marrieds of BALIBBURY resisted the motion, mom
time ground that it would he ilieriteprethit: to time Maw ol
Coeuumoems. lie thought their Lordship*, /mhos good Knew{
were Aimee to the conteety, ought to proceed with the
mg till Pettiara*At *al prorogued,
The - Earl 'of MALSIESOURY censured the whole
course of pommeling *Nett bad been adopted with regent
err the Mi. Theft: Lordelmips ought to have bent Oil.
Waled witio fast mains gross corruption at the lest etre.
ektetiologietallye ea it were, they