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London, England, 1801-03-11 00:00:00

'Mr. FOX said, he was not in the Tlotile when
the Noble Lord originally made his motion for
the attendance of MK. Boucher, -Sic._ otherwise
be should have ohjeted to it, for he believed the
general pradice' Was, hot to.call Witnesses to the
Bar without some ptevious declaration, that the
House was going into an inquiry; respeding
-which the -evidence- proposed to be brought for-
warcktould be made ,useful. When motions of
this sort had been made, he apprehended the
praaice of the liiiuse was not to call Witnesses
to the Bar,
_ut.til it was previouslydetermined that
the objet for whichit was proposed to examine
them was televant to the matter in .hand. • 7'
The SPE.4KER observed, that the idea of the
Noble Lord Was that Mr. HORNE TOOKE, ;being
it Priest in Orders, was not eligible, to a seat in
that House. ILI order to prove his being in
Orders, he meant to call Witnesses to.the Bar,
and the Motion he now made that
Mr. Boucher be called in ; and in all this, he
conceived the Noble Lord acted orderly, as -ate
bad formerly moved that Mr. Boucher be re-,
quested to attend.
Mr. FOX thought the better way of
would have been, to refer the whole subject
to a Committee of Privileges. Was it a proper
ground for the Noble Lord moving the examina-
ton of Witnesses at the tis merely stating
-that, Mr. TOOKE.was in Priest's Orders ? Now
he stated that one-Merrhbet.'Xas a Priest---to-mor-
row, he might suy, that another was an Officer;
a third, a Coumellor at, Law. But would this be
pa rl .ground, to- proceed upon to require
the examinatto!volWittiesses to prove.such State-
ments ? He thought this was an extraordinary
mode of proceeding, as it doubtless, would
be, if it should be argued, . that the Hon. Centle-
trwn opposite to him was ATTO.RNEY GEN E kAL
and upon a Mcmbf,tr's --expressing doubts of his
eligibility, it should be proposed to call Witnesses
'SO .prove,the 1:14L • In the present instance, he
'thought the ITloue ought to ground its proceed-
ings upon some knowledge itst previously had,
that a doubt was entertained, as to the eligibility
of the Hon. Gentleman, on account of which it
was deemed proper to examine 'Witnesses.
,Mr. IiRAGGE remarked, that since this was
a matter of Privilege, it was not extraordinary
that_ teases of this nature did not frequently occur
to dired their proceedings, or. that a Committee
• Pri6letes was not now in the ordinary exer-
• cise of its fun4ions ; :but it. was not at all extra-
. ordinaty,if a person returned to Parliament under-
the peculiar circumstances of the Hod.. Gentle-
man, aryl withinit there having been any 'PetitiOa
presented: against this return, if a Alembtrr in his
place should take the matter up and Say, that
such a person' was ineligible. This was doubt-
le.s one mode of calling the, attention of the
.House to the subject, in.the manner in which the,
Noble Lord had adually done, it; and that. spch
a th.ttlt was pradieable for him to adapt, could
admit of no dispute. if :the Noble Lord had said
his wish, was to move .a new Writ; that, in the
present instance,-would have been premature.
.111r..FOX said he was,, at a loss it, know how
far any Mkuilaltr of Tarliathent. was justified in
caltLig,for the :examination 'of Witnesses, merely
.by stating fads which might lead-ow to a very.
unpleasant examination ; as, supposing the Noble
Lot'd had chosen-,to move for Witnesses to be
called to the liar to examine into the Hon. Gen-
tleman's Qualification. He must therefore re-
peat his-Apinion,_ that the House ought first to
sandionAhe Proceeding itself on which it ground-
' ed -the examination of Witnesses. .

Mr. TOOKE.—" Mr. SPEAtEIti I am bound
, „.
to resist the present Motion for the intromietton
.cti. u Witness, not that I jhave the smallest 'desire
in the world, to delay, or to prevent the discus.. •
sion of-the main question which the Noble Lord
wishes to dikiiss.. I only desire that the discus,
sion may :be ,and fair, • and free ; and as far
as I have been able to discover any thing that
resembles a principle which the Noble Lord
has brought forward, I will, to the best of
my ability, aid and.. assist him. I beg_ the
House (they will. easily do it) to recollth the
previous proceedings of. the Noble Lord .upon
this subject.----Three weeks ago,, when I was
sworn at the Table, his Lordship gave notice that
he should, after the expiration of fourteen' days,
if no Petition was preferred against me, move
this HoUse for a Committee .toioquire into the
state of the Representation of old Saluin.----(ffere
there appeared to be expressed tOme.dolibi of the
accuracy of the st ateftior I ) I say yes, for I heard'
it, Sir: Afterwards Tattended at the -expiration
of fourteendays, fifteen days., and sixteen days,
in my place, hut nothing was mentioned on•thiS
matter.. On the r7th indisposition,,and a pretty
severe indisposition too, kept me away ; I found
on the' 18th that his Lordship, in Any absence,
-had given notice to the House that he should on
this day; the toth,of March, make a-Motion re.:
spetzin the: eiiiiPity of the ltsqv, Mr. HoRNE
Tooka to a Seat in this House I attended on
that day ; his Lordshipthen told me, for I was
going to ask some explanation, his Lordship
told me—T should say, came tov me—and.very'
handsomely (and • still more, haodsbmely; would
it have been, if the `subsequent proceeding had
been consonant to the pm for proeeeding) said
he would not tell me what sort of a 'Motion it,
would be.—This was on the 03111 day.; the
Lawyers had a ditlieulty ;
,the Lawyers, his Lord-
ship said, had not been-enabled to determine what -
sort of a Motion he-sliould.be enabled to'make
on • the subjcd, but he • told .me, I shall be
able to tell you what shall be the Motion,
on Tuesday. I 'spoke-of indisposition. He
said, if it was inconvenient for me to. be in
my place, would send Me word by letter.—
I attended, however, and then his Lordship„in-
_stead of informing me of any thing, made a new
Moti6n, w'ithout any notice whatever, for the
examination of Witnesses. Sir, I.tolsl von, and
the House., 1. would. willingly save his Lordship
the !trouble, *acknowledging then, as 1., do now,
that upwards of 42 years ago I -was 'ordained a
Priest. Sir, I' then understood, from your au-
thority, that such
,an admission was not proper
to lv.! receiVed and atted upon in this House. I
ought to renumber some of the- Proceedings of

this 1-louse, and to have a knowledge ofetliem's
forl have been- -insehe custody of the. Serieent
at Arras, ittending this House; and froni";thae •
knowkdge I do aver*lt to be the constantspier4iesi
of this ifeuse to..take the admissions of: parties
as evidence of- facts---And you. do well to: esless
such admission as evidence, for you never can
have any better in, yotnesitaationi: it is the best_
evidence you are capableof feceising-7Hakes on-
fitentein'Tem.
" You cannot have evidenceupon-oath;sforeyou
'are not empowered to administer it'at yo4r Bar. !,
Can you, therefore, have better evidence thins
-the admission, of the party- himSeifi Certainly
you cannot, and it has been the, praaice of the
Houses under that idea, to receive, it. You have
even gone so far as to ask a man at your Bar to .
criminate himself; for when a Printer has Veen
there, you have asked, him whether he was the
Printer of: a .certain Paper s upon his aeswerine.
---:" Yes," he has been sent---where he deserved
to go. Sir, I lielieve the fairnt:;:.3 and jes_
Eke, on 'which depend the honour and dig- .
nity of this House, will lead it to concur
with me in resisting this Motion, unless the
Noble Lord will -come fairly and fully forward
-with an explanation, with what he means to fol-
low it up...--Heehas. not done so. ; I believe- his
Lawyers have advised him not to do it ; for he •
would have done the same, as be told me in pri- j
state, ; and to night, to the House, he has said he
would have done the -same thing to the: best ~acq-
uaintaece in the same situation, as lie now does
so-me. I wish, for his sake, and I hope .nsit,
for where there is no enmity and no hope -of
profit, there can be no motive to, impose on'
others. I hope it is not the habit of the Noble
Lord to tamper with Lawyers, to engage: them
gratis to look for a flaw in another man's title.
I believe this Motion springs not from personal
enmity to me, for I- do not believe thereeis any
perSonal enmity, to the upon Earth, -but from po-
litical animosity."
[Order! Order! Chair! Chair! was heard in
several parts of the I louse.] •
The SPEAKER said that 'the Hon. Member
would be pleased to abetam:from attributing mo-
tives to any body. • • •
Mr. TOOK.-- " I !Seg.Pardon of the Chair,
-arid of- the House too, if what I said was disor-
derly,
.hut although the Noble • Lord could. not
have tmeant to allude to any personal qualities-an
me; ygt he did allude to thy principles and poli-
tics.--=When the Noble Lprd called on the HoLise
to pet out 'of its consideration every thing which
_Personally relates to me, but called on
,the Hob ie
to take info consideration 'my principle and peli.
tics, he was heard without any interruption, and
he ought to be so ; so should I, when
.l. call upon
the'House to-do the same thing I not only- call
upon the House to do so, but Implore' the House
to do so. I implore them to take-into their con.
sideratioe, my private and. my public. eharaaer;
my morals, and my public principlese the 'adieus
which i have,ast, and the whole of 'my life.
The House is bound to take them all into
consideration, because, on thesel nidan' to rest
what I have to'Subthit to the' 1-lOtise •b .1 claim
House.
msrit with this The Aft which•has teen
so frequently alldded- to for the Settling of Elec-
tion Contests, known by the name of that Noble
Lord's ancestor,. Mr. GRENVILLE, and which
haS justly been the subjeel of aPplause repeatedly
throughout this House ; I inn the cause of----the
A of the Noble Lord's Grandfather' I pro-
duced. 'lf there be any Merit in that Afte 1 am
the cause of it, for I was the 'cause of the Aft
itself; and those who are old enough in this
House, know 1 that :to be a faa,—Thosd who
were intimate with the Noble Lord's Uncle--
(`Order!) He was a stranger teeme.' I Mill
shall be in Order; I trust"---.-{" Order! Order !
Chair! Chair!" resounded.] - .
The SPEAKER intimated- that the Hon. Pen-
tleman.did not confine himself to.the-rules of Or-
der in debate..
Mr. TOOKE.—" I intreat the-House toeonsi-
der, that -unless the brains ;teal minds and under-
standings' of men are formed exaaly 'alike, -it is
iMpoasibree foe one man to-say -what another in-
tends to Utter; it, therefore,' is impossible. for.
another to say what I am going to-utter, hence it
is generally a little difficult, until a man has got to
the end of his.proposition, to judge well whether
he is in Order or not. I trust I am not imperti-
nent, and I meati by impertinent,. tu speak to that
which does not belong to the thing in. cliscusOon.
Upon My honour I do not ttink 1 do so now,- but
I.have a habit of reasoning, which to-some. -per-
sons May appear odd, because they 'mai, not be
used to it. I like to state things in the begin-
ning of a debate, which' not only every impartial
mind assents to, -but which all minds are likely to
assent to ; this I do by stating thiiigs that arein,
ilemselves never disputed,. and there-may be some
who will not see
.immediately what use I intend
afterwattls to make of the facts, after the conces-
sions -are made. There are two modes of reason-
ing ; the one is to state at first all'yott mean to
.prove; and then proceed to prove-and draw your
conclusion ; another, to begin at the other end,
and to'olitain concessions 'as your go on, and hav-
ing had them, to proceed to'dedoce wmething out
of them. This is the better way of the two; if
you suspea the person -you have to contend
with,• or who you my have to speak to, is not
impartial; and your- reasoning is good- for nothing
if it will not sometimes, as occasion- may require,
suit such.persons ; for if-you convince none but
impartial men, yOu do.but little, 'since such a man
seldom wanfs much. assistance from any body-, if
he 'las. but diligence. I- was speaking of the
Grenville Mt—l have said who was the cause of
need not praise it—The .1-Low-knew the
charaaer of it. When the success of the Noble
LOrd'shalrhave been compleated, if he shall suc-
ceek•it will only give him the honour of incul-
pating the House in the disgrace de defeating- the
whole of the Aft-of -the Noble Lord's Ancestor.
I'am speaking- to the real Question' before the
House, although it may seem otherwise- to .sOme
who hear me, and the heart of- every man
who either regards the Rights of this House
or of the Individual, who wishes to protcft

Eitkter - Public or .Private: Property,: ought ,*t6 1
ti
he e-f.faged---for-ic, +he D.4oiott, of the 4obic
I:ord:s-ac cads,- an4:h obtairt) his lobjeft 'Of volino'
, P
. , _
out
of
this . .. .1, • .
. ;Irle
, and exploded pratticia_of th,i‘l-lour4c,„. such u4gry-
corrupt Aeturns, (11)r there have been such.things)
will be revived
.and be
..in full-force. Nov thi
.obscrvatiott I pcpea. to apply, to rricn of all grin.:ssi pies , an 4 even u -t-Itoie vulul tiafiq no 'maxi-pie..
If my 'observations should be:of that character,
;1 sh ould4*-- are- to-suetieed.::'•ll a fliatitonfilierhir
.
arguments, or.- üblerptions to, the good alone, he
can never stice'ceri lo a 'are'"at extent. - If yod can_
not take a great.,psiiion of-the bad with you as
well as the good; you Iv ill .41.mve no chance of any
considerable .success ,in th is life.. Atli IT shalt come
.dirc4tly to,the, question before yotk;and here I-ap-
.preliend theLaw:yersi,foy.they well understand their
INsinkls) will convre!lend, what I am going to say
--LI oliebli'to-esteci,l the profession,. of the La‘i.,•-•-
indeetl- I love it -; —fo.rt y -4i ve years ago, the now
Lord Chief justice of England and myself clues.:
-.eel as Students in :the Law, ,together, iola Tem,
ple,• oil the saw day.- 'The .profession of: the
1,a,.V wanny oiiginai destination I say; I -.line
the profession of the...l.aw;.augenany-of ,itS.P/o-
lessors. I wish to Goit 1 could always api7-rOve
of all,.thcir . praetices--7-Viit._dolza an ,u:liii;, %cab
their motto.—The.Noblc Lord ran -to taWypt S—
it was the.dtlty= or its. not. the- dutyi. it--jvaitre-
priEtice of af,Lawyer,, considering.himself.as. an,
Advocate, to tell -die 'Noble' Lord hew he -should
be likely to succeed, ar;d -the Lal4erS •?.iVi-seci
the Noble Ltard to raok; hustle of.it,_ rid to

throW a 1 things beloniing the ease into con-
and- to get a. liimping, plumping Vote. of
the liouse, and keep the -real -Trierits of the case
out •of 'This was consistent enough 'in
Advocates, for the more -injustice.ir Conceals,
the more credit will they gain_ for' their skill.
But if the liouse .will -attend to me, I will
lay the CaS.C.before,thern in away that will satisfy
every man in it, whether he be for me or against
me : I will.put the question so distinctly, clear-
ly, and ; in. a..-light 'tliht 'shall. not be
technical,: itfid in a -way that.. oot only .ekery
Country, creoileman, but-evea a Lady ,hall under-
stand it as .eiisily• •as the deepest- Lawyer in. the
Howe : and this. is the .Way. in I shall, en-
deavour. to. do it. It the duty of The
House, as I .talte..4 to consider the eQiut under
different heads,: if the question is' to bei,,whether
I. shall sit in this House. or .not ? Or, rather,
whether L an'sit in thiS.lloase.hy Law Now,
in. examining • this _matter; the .'first -question
undoubtedly will. -.the .House--r Is
there, any specific, .or...l.posiOve, Law . against
my sittiog in-. this H-o EMI .therre-. is
not, is pretty evident.. from. the. coupe which
is now pursued.- If not, .the nest question. will
be, What other law shall we resort to-? The
Points then ito.,be considered Via-arise out-of

the Canon Law. Upan:Ehis there wilLarise five
questions ; that is; supposing that there .is no spe.
cific- law against: me,. hie]) .rake-for granted
for the present, and which,. if there is, may, and.
no doubt will.be-produced ; there will arise-five
questiohs, • and-I,shall. insalf.be. very happy, if.
every one of -the 'five points should} be decided
aglainstme,- .If one of:themis tkcided-in my fa.
your, doWn at once „goes the whol. of the Contro-
versy. I state the thing. in this way_Under.dAs.
ti (lift 'heads, for as it now stands,: it is miclt'a
ture..of confusion,. that,,Some men's minds have
been puzzled, while toy .o .'n has .been nauseated'
at .the contentron :it has produced already. ~But
the only way to -get. out of that disagreeable.si-
!.tuation, is .to reduce the thing ,t_ei4nethed; under
distin& heack. • .Fitist then,:l say; -that if there
:be no positiv,e.law won this tubjea; eve must re-
sort ,to the Canon 'Law. Does, the Cu non. Laws-bi nd

the proceedings of this House I=-Sir, lam not.ar.
guing the question, but shdwing thelfouse upon
Nvilat course they must go to lay-the foundation of
a just decision on .this cdayi. ,- Thee next qtlestion
will be, How far, and in what. mffliner dyes the
Canim. Law: bind even the clergy ? Does' it bind
them out.of the profession ? .Does' ie follow them
into civil life ? The third question will be, Does
the Capon Law;binCl me who liave-been•a Priest
That involves another,. which refers to the cease
of,,a person who has taken Clerical Orders, but
who has renouneecl.-them: add become a Layman ;
and what are the ,conseqn,nlce if he does ? And
. the Noble Lord will recoiled. 'than upon that, if

decided in one,way; will rest the hole ct,se ; there
will be no question upon C lericalOrders, they are
not bindiw, on one who hat renounced them -iu
become a Layman. Then; nay, befilre it is possible
for this House tolorm a correct judgment, these
three points I hairy. stated must be determined, ar?d,
thedefertninatiOn of One of than in one' way will
put an end:to ; the. whole dispute. There will,
however, supposing the, aceision of that last ro-
be in-the affirmatiVe, remain two questions ne-
cessarily. to be determined.- Can the Canon. Law
legally bind the proceedings of this libuse. Hort
long will it be. betbre I ;1111 be able; O make this I
House deterinine that. in the affirmative ?-4halt
the old Proverb, of once a Captain always a Cap-
' tain, he. made 'to :apply to 'a Cergy man ? Now,
what are the•• Canons •applicable to this point ?
---There' are two Canous, both relating to th
same point--that is, that -a .inan in Hu: :: Orders
shall not wear 'arms, nor shall exercise 'the
office of 'a- jnstice: of the Pence. These ,are
pat, back:, The other, that no
,Deicon or Mi-
nister shall, at any time relinquish the order, and
use himself as a Layman.—Why, it must theii
appear that a seat in Parliament calls for such
funktliOns and duties as are • tetallyx triffitfOr a pet-
son who hai received Clerical Orders, and it mu-st
be determined that a .seat in Parliament is that
sort of using a- man as .a Lzyman, that he -cannot
sit. ip this .House .withoueoffending against the
Canon Law, and that- the Canon Law is-binding.
oh this House.--Now: 1' declared. that I did not
Mean to argue either of these-pOinte•;. I- intended
only to.state them—l shall keep my ward.-=--But
I desire the learned Gentlemen of -this }Muse,
whatever their wishes may ,be, that they. ma
take this matter up, and try their-skill, upon it,
at least I shall have greatsatisfaklion in the ester
tion of their skill, for they cannot exert it without
committing their charigters to whatever they say,

hat
ct

tit r

:fir

and the higher-tn. lar. .." 5 -
be -the respon3ibility of its 0%. I.r the u.,e he
puts it to. - 1 'shall be glad ttr them s. y,
whether an honest and fair judgment tan be given
on this sullied Without discussing one of
these points which I have stated. Having said
this; I can only aild, that -I-Mtr.sort' to have
troubled the House-.so 10ng..--my.r.wologlil, that r:
the /\-Tfiihle. Lorcflas7ealt on topics that made it
necessary. 1, will just, by*, the %van -olisetve
:personally, that -17 not only intreat hut.calLon. the
House to pay- but tittle ren-rd to any observation
which-some men may Make: upon their having a`
large stake in • the.COuntry'; from. whence they-
Would infer, "that there is every security which
can be desired for.: their .Ptiblie*irtue—Sir, I
have. ti stake-, and a deepstakc, in tilis_country—
stake not
..stolert,from' the:, public -hedge, but
plant id stake 'that I would
_not change
With chi-Noble •Liird glad all his COnneaions. put
together. His' slake Carirtiotbeaugineptcd or in.,
cr-iased. but 'Out (A4.*t he 'public .stOck7—_-but I have
.
othaLuneins,.,and which: cannot 1)e angtnented but
aiding to the es.;Faciion-seoclz of ilappints-and
the:pulairo-IrOielit-cf
.: Mt:-YORKE said,ll6Wished,to-say a-very few
.tvtirdi Merely. to-the ..order, of this. proceeding,
not. al,;111 to'• t ; they ito ld 1).4- dht"llSs.eti
,h.:;•-eaftcr.. :The question note Was,' whether the
.pious -v/jAild• can to • the, Bar. a.W itness who at_
recd in. ptir.stiaiice. of .the 'order of. tile 1 lOu.e,
the m purpe °tins being called there ? ' Much.
of the reasoning .of The libts...,Gelti.eman (Mr.
fox) have to the sues.tion,. whe.
titer the' House should-order the- Witness --co:at.:. •
tend or not, li:it.'vv,4.,ynol,y, in his an'rehension,
~This,ease, as he.undcr, ood 'had
urn reforence to *I Ott y..N.v k. I.: Is Bill ha t
the 1-touse- had already-done- uron this ..httiness
appeareiLto liiiiuriot,to be improper, and ficoul4l
not Be)p- being -'eurpi;zed. that a inats'of the
the- :ll:chant able Gets.
..any dif-
fieulty .of :Ails-. The..M.ciuse _Must,
some how or Other, :ha lie, eiridence:Ort h e fad 'laid
proposed, to be ioctuireditiro at•the :Bar„—prev ions
4._c;iediscassiort,ofqte-getetal ,cpcstkor
was a Y..ery imporlam. one, namely:, whether.
*eine(' a- Priest eduhic•Zii:the
principles of the cquilitution. and the .u§irges. of
Parli.4.avent, „sit .thittliotise 3 The-Nrotion Lovi
!_before•the rcl 1-10 ti to-that
great discussion; 2nd he was. not able. to4e4,,the
cdree of ansrAtion :that444 hitherto bee.
stated to the 11thition. • .
. _
hgcl IsteeetrliiiTiVai-at
sass
terition.to 4vlfat had hitherts3 \tt,
tY port of '..the, Ntiloqion nosy..hefOre the puss' hot.
h 6. hut -.heard ' ,prece4ent quoted lavOtir
Iling to..tliellar of .theHous .4.. witness -in
sUch"a-proceedirig..aS this:. It a its true, thc.
iiess- was brought, here,, but -that .did not
that the Hoits&must_exatnjne_ liitn that the rt~tr•c~.
.tion was important he admitted, bat the: more
portant it was,- the. ntdre it saws.. necessary that,
its discussion should not 'be marked by a viOlazien
0-f thd proceedings of the •
[11,474 sewer-at Itl Mhi s crird ctil ti E
Sltni.o 'AP acrd ..14-a- sat ivtwt.] . )
Mr. thought it was -noC priZe'r• t
antiCipate the 'discussion of the merits of the
neral,question-.of the 4igibiljty of a-Priest to 4it
-in the Houseof.Conutions,-i Ic was of opinion that
ihe.offer- of the Hon.: Gentleman hintelf to admit
the fits' of his being a .Priest, iould.tot, 4On true
principtcsoflavis-be•acceptedby thelldit4e, be I tte
-the es.tablishmetit of • that fat -conclUded; rerhapfp
upon the interests- of others •as well as those
the Hoh, Gentle,' r:49.. It might:dill:et ;eights'
-of the.BOrOugh of -Old:Sartim, .and .theiefolie.46, •
thought the 'House had.. rightly 'ch.:tided the other„
that AYitnesses., should. be examiner} to Pro've the
fael; instead of taking the admission of the HOn.
Gentleman,, that
..11& had.liten ordained
He:expeed, from , the talent's and 'E:teatcape_
:rience of the Hon Igentlernan who otTosed this
;Motion-alr,
.that he would. haye.furnish-
ed'the House with Ow preeenents; to shew.that.
this Motion Wlt's.'repitgnant to. the -Usual pratlim:
of the House, and if. this Wils not, that he would'.
'have advised the House what was properl'.'tfe:h4ct
done no such ..He owned he knew not what
-the HOuse would do With the subjea tlCfore it, if]•,
thZlViineS§ no(CalT(';,.l,..i.or until thatcourse .;
:Was takeki-,`66,sria woUld be established before th
tiolise;Whereon_to- discuss the eneral.qUestion;
w4thEr: a :Pricit was eligible to a *ell in the
House of Coniuons ?. the la&
.wa s- establish_
ed, that the-Hon. :Gentleman was a Priest, or had
been Ordained 'a Priest, there was no fad before
thiltomd; and, tifcrefor, if the House cistertaii...
ed the question at all,' it must entertain it in-.the,
shape of a :dty, ahmaafproposition, a mode of,.
proceeding to ‘Ol-lcii the House would not be very
par -he.- bplievecl; were, It .Wotild-54ata
have business -enough upon its hands. fr.alipert.red
to him it li•ould be a:very great saving of itr
-
to.exaniine Wito.esscs. at the flat t 0 a tot' ques..
-tions; would not take. up .five minutes; to
grand a question afterwards on the
.general sub-
jetf. But if the I Touse-should note decide that the
`fitness should.not becalled in,tt would dppear thae.
the former order for pus attendance• Was 'an hasty
and,urfadvisetl exercise of power;
,and the Haase
wcUld have to proceed. ;on lh' generid.question,.
without -a 4.30 on. which to builil'aity argutitixt.'
As to,the.questiou itself; of the eligibility; be.
gave no opiniou,',ld. he holdother academe*
would atbstaill from that nntil;the.prorer :sea-11k
Niuld atrik•for .tll-4ctwilig--iti when, no 46144
it .wuameet -with that attention .whieb--a pow
t -merited..
- D,EI! --spotie also' to the other of the
s
pioceeaink of the.146.6_,,e. lie took notice of
• . •
he .oiri tiop of anljonourable-Getitlemen ,(Mr.
Fox) _lO this- Motion, and whiclivpo6itiort•-was
diitinguiihed lor that strength of reasoning
which- might hive been ei peeted. from the quar,
-ter fiorn whence ii carne--tor the Honourable
Gtatleman' shad nit -made the • least
don between the examination, of a Witness
at. the Ear ,and the pcoduaion of Papers .to
the House : the House -was in the daily prace
tice of ordering Papers,- preparatory to the
discussion of the subjct to which they rcferred,'