The Sun.
London, England, 1839-02-27 00:00:00

a salary of 1,0001. than the place-worth 5,000/ a-year
without a seat in the House. ( Loud cheers.)
Because, Gentlemen, I have been brought up in
the school of economy, and I have learned that
to have few ~,,,, :, ;, ~, f. ,1,',1,* ^*'4o \''''Cr.'3 sed
therefore 1,000/. a y+ a*, ie "sie.,i,e, es ‘,. *1 i i e.. ve. e eeei
e as much to me as 10,000/., and as my Hon. Friend has
alluded to ecclesistical commissions, I may add that whe-
ther the probate of my will be for 100,000/. or under one
million, it is all the same—l cannot be in a situation to
hear it—and there will be always some miser whose pro-
bate will exceed that of the ordinary amount. Now if Mr.
Goulburn had attacked my appointment on the ground
that it was an unnecessary burden, while other persons
were receiving the public money, end doing nothing for it,
and that it was fitting that some of these persons should be
appointed to my office, in order that they might do some-
thing for their pay, I should understand the purity and
disinterestedness of the Right Hon. Henry Goulburn, who
might be much better eineloysd, instead of looking after
the Cabinet in which he had a seat so long, in looking
after the cabs of the metropolis.—(Great cheering and
laughter.) Here would be a very useful office for him.—
(Much laughter.) And as for Mr. Wynn, it might be
suggested by that Right Hon. Gentleman that if his friend
had too arduous a duty, and that there was more than one
Pensioner upon the public purse, there might be a division
Of labour; and while the one looked after the cabs, the
other would look after the omnibuses.—(Laughter.) Here,
indeed, would have been great disinterestedness, and here
would have been a saving to the public of 8001. a year. The
plain truth is, that the whole proceeding has been based in
a deep-rooted, a long-continued, and a still working sys•em
of personal persecution of myself.—( Hear, hear.) There
is not a gentleman present—there is not a Member of the
House of Commons, who will say that the duties of that
office were overpaid.—( Hear, hear, hear.) If Mr.
Wynn thought my political independence in danger,
what was the natural course for him to pursue ?
should he not have said, 1 would be the last man to disturb
Mr. Harvey in his possession of this office ; and I think
the salary a er inferior oe, but at ll events it is fairly
de to him • v
buty inasmuchn as his political independence is
subverted, if not in fact at least in feeling, I propose to
bring in a Bill to provide that the Registrar of Metro-
politan Public Carriages do hold his office so bong as he
conducts himself well—so long as thet is the case no Go-
vernment can meddle with him. The law as it now stands
provides that he shai; hold office during pleasure, and he
'night have said that wheeeas by an Act passed in the last
Session, the Registrar of Public Carriages holds
office during pleasure or discretion, and it is expedient that
he should hold it so long as he conducie himself well, or
in other words, for life. He might have said that this was
avery arbitrary power, and it may happen that somefine
„aY, after having spoken severely in the House, or, as ~51t•
nobert Peel said, as a reason for my not being on the
Pension List Committee, after having spoken " sarcasti-
cally,"
I may receive a poke note, with the official
broad seal, with the name "F. Maule" in the corner,
to the effect " Sir, I am desired by Lord John Russell,
to acquaint you that you no longer hold the office of
Registrar of Metropolitan Public Carriages." In such a
Case every body would hare said, " We all can see how it is
--we saw what he said last night, and where his name
stood in the division list."— ( Hear, hear.) Some
Might have said that it was a great hardship
and others would say, " It served him right ; he should have
stuck to his party." The.efore the Right Hon. Charles
WatkYns Williams Wynn should have brought in a Bill to
Protect my independence, and to provide that I should
„hold, my office so long es I conducted myself pro-
lierlY, as all public servants should hold their offices,
ffer from the Right Honourable Gentleman, when he
saYs that I held an office under the Crown—l held my
°nice under the people, and it was under an Act passed
for the especial purpose of protecting the interests and the
Ives of the people of this great metropolis. So long as I
conducted myself properly in that office I deny that
Ite could have discharged me. If there was a discretion
T. him, it was a political discretion ; and if I had been
",,istuissed without cause, some one would have risen in the
'louse to ask why I had been dismissed, and to move for
41, inquiry upon the subject Mr. Harvey then said
was only another link in the chain of persecution
bind
a professional and a political party had sought to
'rind round Lim, ever since he commenced his political or
Professional exjstence. He would mention this subject be-
eailse it was only. by pointing out canes of individual injus-
tice that others could be warned, that a remedy could be
sought after. A gentleman recommended him to attack
the Ecclesiastical Courts—why as well might a cat at-
tsek the lion exhibiting at the Theatre. He might make
a speech on the subject in the House of Commons in order
to 'ring forward the subject. Some Members would be
astonished, others would be asleep; some of the papers
Would deny his statements, and others would regret
that it had been brought forward at such a n
hiconvenient time.—( Cheers. ) He had already attacked
corruptions ; he had begun to attack the corruptions of
the Courts of Law before he was even a Member of the
douse of Commons, before he represented Colchester, in
the year 18] 8 • before that time he had attacked' Ore
abuses of the Court of Exchequer—those abuses of which
nil were the victims who happened to offend against the
laws of Customs or Excise. If any person were so unfor-
tunate as to offend against these laws, even although the
penalty
,
sought to be recovered might amount to no more
than 5/., there was
expense first of all, an information filed
against him ; then five Counsel were retained, at the
of fifty guineas, to support it. There
Was the Attorney-
General, the Solicitor-General, and
three other Barristers, at 10 guineas each, to be paid by the
unfortunate defendant ; he had no choice. There was
'lis° in these cases a regular Exchequer Jury, a sort of
domestic jury, chosen from 48 persona, calling themselves
gentlemen—persons living in bye streets, nobody
knowing exactly how they lived, but that they had
something to do with the Exchequer; and if these jurymen
10nd a verdict for the Crown, they were rewarded with
two guineas, and if for the defendant they only received
lair' • He had corrected this system ; and now if a man
ad the courage, he could go before the secondary, and
Isist upon a fair jury being struck. Two of the Counsel
also had been struck off; and now, instead of having to
Pay five hungr briefless, be.gless men, only three were
hones all that were employed, and of these one generally did
ie.'? work of the other two.—( Cheers and laughter.) After
f'-'sbe had expressed his intention of retiring from his pro-
lakon of an attorney, and commencing practice as an ad-
reo,,cate. "Oh I" said the Benchers of the Temple, " be-
,--n you are permitted to do so, you must give us a refe-
Lnee to two respectable persons." He accordingly
,
..." give them these references one to his old
as highs a Tory as ever existed, and the other
to his agent—shortly after he received an intimation that it
`was necessary he should enter into a bond to observe the
stiles, regulations, and ordinances of the Temple ; he ac-
cordingly entered into the bond. He was next called upon
t°. Pay the sum of 1201., which he had paid accordingly.
:tie next had given to him certain rules, to the effect that
he should for every term during three years, eat sixteen
e inners in the hall of the Temple, and that having eat these
!S id dinners, consisting On the one day of mutton and po-
lio, oes, and on the alternate one of beef and very harmless
Duel ding, he would be then duly qualified, and well
stufk'd to be a barrister.—( Cheers and laughter.) Just
at 014 time the members of the bar had found out that at-
. lierneys knew more than they did. Sergeant Wilde, who
had been an Attorney at the same time that he (Mr. Har-
IT)) had been, Lad taught them that, and baying learned
t"ls the determined something
,
that more should be ne-
a-
(se„aaare besides being stuffed with dinners, to enable an
ob's`rney to become a bai'rister. They, therefore, deter-
"4"4l4 that every attorney should cease to have been an
T°lneY for two years before he could be called to
full "Sr- Now, they knew that .''e was an attorney in
GrestPrßantice ; they knew that he had Offices
.In
ed him to give
P all
u --t. Helen's Bishopsgatc ; they fore-
his money,
this. and notwithstanding he had paid .
aro eat h .
unteaa , la elinners, they had refused to call him to the bar,?
be he gave up his •• ' They thus exposed Cm to
gga,
an practice.
Years beford all arising from it, for t. N
the temptationso
robbed hi %they would call him to the bar. Having
say when, at
111 °"' ilia r • ice and his money, what did they
p act
adrnitt , the end of that two years, he applied to be
..e. ed WI,
" "7, they refused to admit him, on account
i":lsomething which they said had happened twenty years
You
If the• Benchers would now come to him and say,
Presentative
..reell have been Member for Colchester, you have been the
el: sentative of one of the most important of the metropo-
*lt
l n boroughs, we will consider this as sufficient evidence as
i: to Mr character—we will overlook the past, we will
ilve you a locus penitenlic if you will only say that you
71 e sorry for what occurred and hope you will not do so
4ain. If you will confess that being now 52 years of age,
and having had more experience you would not again do
" You did when a young man." He would say, No, and he
Would tell them that with 30 years' experience he would at
.2) under similar circumstances, act precisely similar to
What lie had done at 21.—(Cheers.) Ile would go
to the House of Commons, and he would like to find
ati?' lawyer who would speak to him upon the subject.
„oey all recollected what a poor figure Scarlett cut.--
w Leos la
tv, g ter.) He observed there a high City authority
es`..`nao pwn Recorder, Mr. Law, had been one of the
!nehers. Let him tell his Recorder that he (Mr. H.)
'could be ready to meet him at any time he liked upon that
2:6terrel•—(Cheers.) Yes ; and he would not confine him-
ta i_to Mr. Law only. He would meet any one upon the
pl" of that question.—(Cheers.) There was Sir F.
,ot°h'eck also, who was now in Parliament, and three of the
be! Benchers, who sat upon ant, occasion are also Mem-
er
ezi, of Parliament; and he would meet all of them, and
: he no aseistance and no sympathy from the profession—
tai Would defy these three men to single combat, and main-
that they had not acted the part of honest men.
1 1- ((Cheers)_ The Honourable Gentleman then proceeded:
will go further. What did Ido in the House of Corn eC?Is in 1834, when these miserable, skulking beings—
iVeers and laughter)—were uttering their insinuations
ail. ell directions ? I said, I demand inquiry. A Com-
le:altte, Was appointed, and I did not appoint a single mem-
ris, Wrio sat upon it. Upon it there were five or six bar-
win'. and there were more Tories than any other parties,
tO not above three out of the twenty-four with whom 1
was u
freel en conversable terms. They brought witnesses
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• ail parts of the country ; and in consequence of the
importance of the inquiry, and the impossibility of getting
gaeve of the witnesses before the Committee, the House
Committee '! ower which it very unusually gave, it gave the
aent power to go from place to place. They
do down to Colchester, but who was it that went
• ,kin down? down
must say that the Chairman no doubt felt
tlly
...
~ 0 towards me, still he was a lawyer, and
'elm
4. `done
can doubt that Mr. O'Connell is as much a
~
..1.,,t• as any of the dirty Bench in the Temple. Three
:2'l /I e Committee went down to Colchester, and obtained
for "ter from a gentleman there, which did him honour,
o it c, cared my character, to whom he was at all times
~Pl!oseel, who uniformly voted against me at Colchester,
j 'net exerted himself as much as he possibly could against
ei Ze• Who, : ask, were the parties who went down with
',l r••O'Connell `'Two friends of mine. You will know
he I tell you the v were Sir G. Sinclair and Mr. Glad-
, stone, not one of them very friendly to me. They returned
, ' and agreed report. Now, why, let me ask,
I \ tas not t upon a ow,
; a a that report wade public in the same manner
~. the report of that Comoittee which created the vacancy.
8 this et • : e; e e •
nt wog Justice ?—( l'l 0, no., it is concealed because
would clear me, and cover the cloistered nest of wigged
lee to in
n the Temple with disgrace. Why should that re•
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