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London, England, 1837-03-07 00:00:00

PRESTON AND LANCASTER RAILWAY.

An Hon. MEMBER presented a petition in favour of the
Preston and Lancaster Railway Bill.

OXFORD RAILWAY.

Captain PECHELL presented a petition from the
owners and occupiers of land in the county of Oxford against
the Oxford branch of the Cheltenham and Tring Railway.
Mr. HINDLEY presented a petition from Ashton-under-
Line in favour of the Manchester and Staffordshire Railway ;
and a petition from. an individual against the Manchester and
Sheffield Railway.
The Birmingham Plate Glass Compani% Bill was read a
second time.

Mr. WILBRAHAM, presented several petitions in favour
of the Manchester and Stafford Railway.

Mr. ROBINSON presented petitions in favour of the Man-
chester and Chester Railway Bill.

GRANTON PIER BILL.

On the motionof Sir GEORGE CLERK, this 13ill,was
read a second time, and ordered to be referred to a Committee.
MANCHESTER and STAFFORDSHIRE RAILWAY.
Mr. AGLIONBY presented a petition from Kendal in
favour of this Bill.

TAMWORTH AND RVSGBY RAILWAY.
Sir E. WILMOT beggtd leave to withdraw the motion he
had made the other day, and substitute the following motion,
which he beliPved had raet with the approbation of all parties,
namely, "Vaal the Mition, together wills the Report of the 4
Select Qmnmitteo en the Tamworth and Rugby Railway, be
referrea to the Committee on the Standing Order."
I Ord EBRINGTON seconded the motion, and sincerely
Vested it would he adopted by the House.
Mr. SHAW LEFEVRE said that it was not his intention
to offer any opposition to the 'course -the House mig:nt
tliink proper to adopt. Nothing in his opinion was, however,
so essential, as to understand properly what the functions. of
the two Committees were. He thought, if the motion was
consented to by the House, it would lead to a very bad pre.
cedent.
The SPEAK ER thought the adoption of the motion would
be attended with great inconvenience.
, Sir E. WILMOT would at once, on his own responsibility,
if the motion was calculated to place the House in an awkward
situation, withdraw his motion.
• The motion was then withdrawn.
NORTH_ JUNCTION RAILWAY.

•
- Mr. COMPTON presented a poition against the North
Junction Railway

14.IVERPOOL AND MANCHESTER PLATE GLAE
COMPANY.
On the motion of Mr. WILSON PATTEN the Liverpe
and Manchester Plate class Company Bill was real a sect
time and ordered to be committed.
CRANFIELD INCLOSURE BILL. -
On the bringing up of the Report on this Bill, Ma'
BEAUCLERK said he did not find any clause in the B
setting aside four or five acres of the land for the purpose of
play-ground for the people. According to the notice be l '
given, he should object to its progress, and he should 'thee
fore move accordingly.
Mr. AGLIONBY hoped the Hon. Member would add
his motion a clause which would secure to the poor a suffici(
allotment out of these wastes.
Lord SANDON approved of the view of the subject take
by the lion. and Gallant Member for Surrey.
Mr. HUME thought 'the' House should proceed wi
great caution when individuals came before it to estal
lish rights , they did not previously possess.—( Hear.) r
man could pass through the country without seeing with regr.
the manner in which these waste lands were being enclosed
and if the Hon. Member for Surrey would put upon the boo!,
a notice 'for a resolution that no Enclosure Bill should h
passed without a provision for that purpose, he was satisfi(
he would have the support of Hon. Members on both sides e .
the House.
Major BEAUCLERK regretted that he was obliged t
leave town for a few days, in consequence of the illness of
near relative, and hoped that the Hon. Member for Middlesex.
or some other Member, would give notice of a motion upo
the subject.
Mr. HUME gave notice that he would propose a resole
tion, with the vie* of taking the sense of the House upon th
subject.

Mr. PRYME said he had, last year, called the attentio
of the House to the subject of what was called the allotmei,
system, with respect to Enclosure Bills.: He gave notice of
resolution to that effect.

Mr. GULLY presented.a petition from Pontefract, agaalp
fie North Midland Railway Bill.
THE-WEST LONDON AND WESTMINSTER
CEMETERY COMPANY.

Mr. WAKLEY moved the second ieading of the above
Bill.

Mr. C. LUSHINGTON had. the same objection to this
Bill which he had to the several Cemetery Bills which were
before the House last year. He found that this Cemetery was
to be divided into two compartments, one being intended for
Churchmen and the other for the Dissenters, thus carrying
religious dissension beyond the grave.---( Hear.) He con-
szdered that it was a national disgrace, and lie would
do all in his power to get rid of it. He was informed
that the Bishop of Exeter the other day, following the example
of the Bishop of London, insisted upon a wall being built be-
tween the two parts. A sort of fence was suggested to his
Lordship, but he insisted on a wall being built three feet high.
For these reasons he would move that the Bill be read a second
time this day, six months.
Mr. POTTER seconded the motion. It must be very
galling to the Dissenters to find that the restrictions of the
Church were carried beyond the grave, and that even in death
a wall of separation was to be erected between them and the
members of the Established Church.

Mr. EWA RT regretted that there should be any distinc-
tions existing between Dissenters and Churchmen ; and still
,more that these distinctions should follow them to the grave.
Mr. \VAKLEY said that with regard to the details of the
Bill, an opportunity would be afforded of considering them in
Committee; and if the Hon. Gentleman- was not then satis-
fied, he might make this motion on the third reading. He
trusted, therefore, that the second reading would not be opposed.
Mr. PR YME did not think there was any ground for the
objection made by the Hon. Member (Mr. Lushington) if
the Dissenters were excluded from one side of the wall, and
Churchmen were excluded from the Other.—(A laugh.)
The Bill was then read a second time.
WAKEFIELD WATERWORKS..

Mr. GREENE brought up the Report of the Committee on
,is Bill.
..aUGH SWELLY AND LOUGH FOYLE CANAL.
Mr. O'CONNELL brought up the Report of the Com-
mittee on this Bill, stating that the Standing Orders bad been

complied with.
AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE.
Messages from the Lords brought up the Report of the
Agricultural Committee.
YORK AND NORTH MIDLAND RAILWAY.
Lord POLLINGTON presented a petition against the
York and North Midlatid Railway.

CARLOW ELECTION.
The SPEAKER informed the House that he had received

a petition from the clerk of the Hanaper-office, complaining of
an undue return for the county of Carlow. The petition was
ordered to be taken into consideration on the 18th of April.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved the Order of the Day
for the House going into Committee on the affairs of Canada,
when

Mr. WALTER rose for the purpose of renewing his
motion with respect to the appointment of a Com-
mittee on the subject of the Poor-laws. Gentlemen,
for whose opinions he entertained the highest respect,
had urged him the last time that he brought the nth-
jeet forward to withdraw his motion upon the subject of the
Committee on the Poor-law. In deference to those individua Is,
he had done so. It would be seen from the list of the Mem-
bers whose names he had -proposed to form the Com-
mittee, that it was his intention that every interest should
b 3 properly represented.—(Cries of " Hear, hear, hear.'")
From a Committee properly constituted, the most satisfactory
results might be expected, but from the ante named a few
Nights ago, he confessed he entertained little hopes of good.
That Committee was composed chiefly of those who did not
sympathise with the classes affected by the new Poor Law
Act, and he believed there was not upon it a single gentle_
man connected with the manufacturing districeL—(Cries
of " Hear, hear.") He feared he had too hastily yielded
the other night, and had not taken sufficient care to have a due
proportion of Members for and against the measure. At pre-
sent there were 17 against the views entertained by him (Mr.
Walter), and only 4in their favour. The Chairman of the
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Committee he held in the highest esteem and respect, bul in

case of his indisposition or absence, the Chair might fall to
some other gentleman, who might be influenced by strong
prejudices in favour of the working of the Poor-law Bill. Jf,
as he understood, there was a Member of the Cornmirtiee
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who had been employed on the Commission, ha thought
him a very unfit person to take a part in the in-
quiry. There was also a gentleman •on the Com-
mittee, who was Chairman of a Board, against which
lie had received a letter of complaint. He rsked to have these
influences counterbalanced by the introduction of gentlemen
holding opinions similar to his own ; and if his motion were
agreed to, it would leave the numbers 17 to 10. With respect
to the statement that he had acquiesced in the naming of the
Committee, he utterly denied it. The whole business was

rapidly hurried througV and there was not a moment given for
rcilection.—( Hear. ) He hoped those who were inclined
to assist him in the original motion would now support his

proposition, in order that the country might have the 'benefit of
a fair and an impartial inquiry.—(}sear, hear.) He therefore
should move that Major Beauclerk, Sergeant Goulburn, Mr.
G. F. Young, Mr. Freshfield, Mr. Thomas Attwood, and Mr.
Hindley, be added to the Committee.
Mr. HUME understood that the objection made to him

was, that he would vote white was slack and black was

white.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) Now, if other people
had been equally honest with himself in stating the
grounds upon which they had. changed. their opinions, it
would be perfectly satisfactory to that House._ It was well

known that there were Hon. Members in that House who had
voted black white and whi'.e black, and black white again; and
he only regretted that they had not stated the ground for their
change of opinion as candidly and as honestly as himself.—
Hear.) He considered the allusion of the Hon. Member
for Berkshire was altogether unworthy his notice.—( Cheers.)
He begged to know, for the Hon. Member had stated no
reason, why, contrary to •the rule laid down, the numbers t
the Committee should be increased? Dice. the Hon. Membe
mean to charge Lim (Mr. Hume) with. any intention to ac
unfairly ? If so, it would ba better for him at once to state
the fact.

Mr. VI L L IE RS understood that an allusion had been made to
him, and that it was considered a ground of objection that he had
acted under the Commissioners. That statement was not
correct ; he had never acted under the Commissioners ; some
of them he did not even know by sight. He (Mr. Villiers)
had recommended a mode of applying the law which hack
not been attended to, and that was the whole of his connec-
tion with the Commissioners. He was not a country squire or
a medical man, nor did he profess himself More humane than
other men—( Loud cries of Hear, hear)--anra his sole object
was to learn whether the Bill had acted we'd or not.

Major BEAUCLERK said the ques',ion was of so much
importance that it ought not to be 'treated as a party one.
Though he had offered his services ...Ton the Committee a few
days age, circumstances had now -alt.ered, and it would be out
of his power to do so. He did not think it was intentional,
but certainly the Committee laad. a strong majority upon one
side.— (Hear, hear.)
Mr. C. PELLIAM t!-,ought there were very few who ob-
jected to the 'principle r the Bill, but still it was unquvAtion-
able that in the count-Ay there was much outcry with, respect
to the mann:er in which i: was carried into effect.
Mr. ci OULBURN did not like to discuss such' -a
questi'an as the adding of particular names to a Corn-
miti.ee.—(Hear. ) However, though he bad come down
the other evening with a determination to support-the Noble
Lard (Lord J. Russell), still he thought this case a. peculiar
one. Such a Committee as that upor, the Poor Laws ought
t o have been so selected as to give 'no room for animadver-
sion on the 'part of any one.—(Hear.) The public ought to see
that every -interest was represented in the Committee, and he
thought such was not the case, as the names now stood. They
were mostly Members for cor.nties or connected with the agricul-
tural interest. There °ught to be on the Committee some of the
representatives. of those large towns, whose opinions were
known to be tulfaxourable to the operation of the
new Poor-laws, in, order to insure a fair investigation.
—(Hear.) With this view, if the Honourable Mem-
ber for Berkshire persevered in making such an alt eration
'in the names of the Committee, ho should certainly 'have his
support, in order in secure the admission on the Committee
of persons whose opinions were known not to 'be quite so fa-
vourable to the amended Poor Law. This would produce
that impression on, the public mind tb.at the inquiry was in
every respect a fair one, and would be more likely to insure a
perfect satisfaction With the result.
Mr. BAINES was connected 'with a large manufacturing
district, which had expressed, a. very strong feeling adverse to
' the new poor laws, and it I..aa happened that he voted against
the passing of that mes sure: So far the objec'.ion of the
Right Hon. Gentleman did not apply with much 'force tohim.
He merely stated this, in order that GentlemoD. might not
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