The Sun.
London, England, 1839-09-10 00:00:00

PTEMBER 10, 1839.

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nation can adopt any new improvement sat go dontife--
hensive a kind without imposing on other nations t&N;
inevitable obligation of following its example. The
railroad system has already made great advances in
Belgium, France, and Gentian*. M. Piron tells
us that it will be gradually followed hy a Penny-
postage: Who doubts of the consequences of
such a change ? Who questions the all effi-
ciency of such instruments ? Talk, indeed, of per-
petuating ignorance, of consolidating bigotry, of pre-
venting progress. These are the cadges that protest
against it. We connot retrograde. It is a grand
moral impossibility, To attempt to roll the centuries
back, or the habits, thoughts, opinions of the present
day, to the habits and opinions of the past, would be
just as rational as to attempt to bridle in its majestic
course, the noble river which flows beside your doors,
and to send it to the mountain source from which,
through many a winding, it slowly and painfully
struggled into day. We cannot retrograde. Every
institution we hare conquered, every aspiring we feel,
every recollection of the past, every aspect of the
future, is pledge of progress, is guarantee that we must
go on.—(Hear, hear.) The only question now is, by
what means, and to what and? Intellectual improve-
ment, assured freedom, augmented wealth, arts, and
commerce, and constitutions are not enough--all these
must not only rest on, but must grow out of improved
moral life—to this all rulers, all nations, if they would
hate not the false tinsel of a transitory prosperity,
but solid national happiness and true national
glory, must bend their heads and hearts, their
hands and minds. To that as the great end
I look, equally I trust, with you. I regard office only
as a larger opportunity of bearing my part in accom-
plishing this good. I do not consider these questions
as levers only to raise one man into place, or to throw
another man out—worthless, indeed, would they be if
theif valve stopped there,—(Hear, hear.) It is a portion
of the regeneration of our country that they are really
good. As such, I rejoide to have had my share in their
achievement. Whether in place or out of place, on
such questions my opinion and conduct must continue
unchanged.--(Hear, and cheers.) The opinions I ex-
pressed from those hustings when first you chose me as
your representative, are my opinions now. I trust that
when next we meet, I shall have to present you with
proofs that my new situation has tended, not to alter
but confirm them. The Honourable and Learned
Gentleman sat down amid loud and long-continued

cheering.
Mr. CURTIS said that After the speech which they had
just heard from Mr. Wyse—a speech which touched
upon every matter, it was enough to deter
_any Done
from getting on his legs; but he would say to the
of Wellington and the Bench of Bishop!, and all the
Lords together, fellow me that speech if you can.--.—•
(Oreat laughter.) lie was glad to see them all in
such good huniour.—(More laughter.) They were now
going to send forivatd Mr. W
.as representative of
Waterford,ifthere wag aanndotphpeor es
opay
position,
great would
d
be, Mr. Wyse would be returned in. spite of it ;_ and
the onplatitotscirt.tohnewto his election ;
the reason is, because he did net think they could get
so good a representative,—(Cheers.) The next reason
was, that Mr. Wyse had a right to be the legitimate
representative of Waterford—he is the descendant of a
family who bore the brunt of persecution—therefore he
ought to be the representative of Waterford, and so he
always will unless it be his own fault.—.(Loud cheers,
and a voice, " Until he dies.") He knew there were
factions in Waterford ; he knew that Mri; Wyse was
complained of because he carried himself too high
but Mr. Wyse carried himself the same to all men—
be showed favour to no one in particular, and Mr. Wyse
was aware that he (Mr. Curtis) only spokeof him as
he thought. After some further observations in which
he lauded Lord Melbourne as a bold and talented
statesman, Mr. Curtis sat down amid cheers.
There being loud cries for Mr. Green, of Kilmana-
ban, this Hon. Gentleman came in front of the hust-
ings, and said that though he was not an elector of the
city of Waterford, he could not withhold from using the
opportunity afforded him of offering his congratulations
on the unanimous return of Mr. Wyse, as their repre-
sentative that day.—(Cheers.) As an enlightened po-
litician, that Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Wyse) would be a
credit to any constituency in the empire, but in this his
native city it reflected double credit on the citizens
to select such a man to represent their wants and wishes
in Parliament--(Cheers.) The appointment of Mr.
Wyse to an honourable and important station in the
Ministry, would be felt not only by the inhabitants of
Waterford, but also by the friends of liberty in every
part of the kingdom, as creditable not only to kimself but
to the Government and the country at large. One so
decided in his political opinions as he (Mr. Greene)
could not be expected to praise the Ministry for all their
proceedings—but he believed that they were snore
guilty on the score of omissions than commissions—
there was a great deal alleged as matters of excuse
in their favour ; they had to deal with oligarchical
obstructives baleful to the progress of freedom. The
Han. Gentleman continued at some length and with
his usual eloquence, and dwelt particularly on the im-
perative necessity of attention to the registries on the
part of the people, and called upon every man who
wished to sustain the present Liberal Ministry in power to
conic forward, join the association founded by the great
leader in Dublin, and give his aid towards a full and ef-
fective registration of voters in Ireland. We regret that
contracted space precludes the insertion of more than a
mere skeleton of Mr. Greene's excellent observations,
which were received throughout with loud cheers.
Mr. THONIAS CLARICE next addressed the meeting
in an effective speech, in which he congratulated his
fellow-citizens on the triumphant return of Mr. Wyse
—spoke of Mr. Wlse's exertions on every question
appertaining to the liberties of the people, and on that
of education in particular, and was frequently cheered
throughout.then asked had any of his constituents
`VISE
i‘ir.
questions to ask him with respect to his Parliamentary
conduct?
There was an universal response in the negative.
Mr. WYSE then said that during his canvass he had
been questioned on his absence on the Bank Monopoly
question, and although there was no one present to ask
him anything on the subject, he could not refrain from
alluding to it. So far from being absent on that ques-
tion, as had been rashly stated, he was present on not
less than five divisions one night whilst the Bill was is
Committee, and voted throughout in the minorities, as
the votes and proceedings of Parliament, which he held
in his hand, would show.
Mr. DELAHUNTY asked the Hon. Gentleman some
questions with respect to his absence on motions in the
commencement of the session, to which Mr. Wyse gave
the most satisfactory answers.
The Sheriff then, amidst the loudest cheering, declared
Mr. Wyse duly elected to represent Waterford in Par-
liament, and said that he had great pleasure in bearing
his own testimony to the fact.
i The return was then made out and signed, and the
• Court dissolved.
- As Mr. Wyse passed through the streets with his
t friends, he was greeted with the cheers of the people
a 7IIIIWIPPIP

BUNGAY ST. MARY.

tniCll- R A TE S.
It was but a Week ago, we announced that the
Church-wardens of this Parish had been defeated by
proof of illegality in their last rate, notwithstanding the
wattling they had in the previous year.
Without lowing time, they gave notice on Sunday
last, of a Vestry Meeting to make another attempt at a
good rate, which meeting was held yesterday, the 6th
instant, the Rev. H. P. COOKESLET, in the Chair.
Mr. MANN, the Churchwarden, read an estimate of
expenses, for which he begged a rate of 2d. in the pound.
A rate at that amount was then moved by Mr.
WALKER, and seconded by the Rev. Mr. BEWICK.
Mr. CHARLES CHILTM said he had a few words to
offer before the motion was carried, and as usual to
protest on the part of the Dissenters against the pro-
ceedings of the Church party. He wished, however, to
premise an expression of the regret he L'it at seeing the
Reverend Gentleman who filled the Chair present at
such a meeting. He believed that Gentleman was
sincerely anxious to be the instrument of good in the
parish, and he was confident his usefhlness would be
diminished, and his influence impaired, by implication
or supposed implication in the proceedings of that day.
He would not, for his present purpose, allege that
those proceedings were illegal, it was enough that on
their face they were unprecedented and vexatious—
without claiming that right was exclusively on his side,
the Vestry was a scene of animosity and a foundation of
strife, with which it was to be lamented that the Chair-
man's name should, however remotely, be associated.
The experience of several years had proved how inef-
fectual would be a simple protest against the Act for
which they were assembled. At their last meeting he
had gone further, and warned them that all they were
doing was invalid and indefensible, and had covenanted
with them that when they should be defeated they
should abstain from calling hard names. He had,
therefore, a right to complain—and he would take the
occasion of Mr. Butcher's presence to say so—that that
gentleman, sitting as a Justice of the Peace to decide
on the rate which he had himself moved in Vestry, had
felt himself at liberty to designate as a quibble the legal
objection by which the rate was defeated.
Mr. BUTCHER here rose, and, stating that he would
not sit to hear such remarks, left the Vestry. As he
was going,
Mr. CHAS. CHILDS observed that what he had to say
he would have stated in Mr. Butcher's presence, and he
should, therefore, not be deterred by his voluntary ab-
sence.

Several parishioners here exclaimed that such remarks
were irrelevant to the business of the Vestry, and Mr.
Childs replied that he was perfectly in order. He was
showing, not that the rate was unjust—
Mr. COOKESLEY—That is precisely the point of dif-
ference, Mr. Childs.
Mr. C. Cutups—By no means, Sir. I pass by all ques-
tion as to the justice of the matter, and am urging
only the inexpediency on your part of persisting in your
present course. I am complaining that when, after
due notice, the party of the Churchwardens are fairly
defeated, they turn round and call ill-names. In doing
tr). lam perfectly in order, but I place myself in the
chairma,fs hands, and shall gladly abide his decision.
[Receiving ao ;ctimation from the Chairman, Mr. C.
proceeded.] lie own ,-2:.‘t refrain from expressing his
coLduct with reference to
conviction that Mr. Blitcliet
the last rate was indecent in the posts:n which he oc-
cupied. He was glad that Mr. B. had no now, as at
the last meeting, moved the rate ; he WOlild ROW- call
to thelf teeollection the assurance he had given them
at their last meeting, how contemptuously they had
rejected his advice, and how signally it had been realized
in their defeat. He had earned a right to their belief,
and would be very happy if all further trouble could be
saved by their now acting on his similar assurance and
refraining from an attempt in which they would again be

beaten.
Mr. MANN--YOU would not be happy if you did
not cause unhappiness.
The CHAIRMAN interposed to check this remark, and
Mr. C. Clumps claimed, as this offensive expression
had been used, to say that Mr. Mann's conduct had been
most ungentlemanly. When that Churchwarden applied
for a summons against Mr. Thomas, he had had a con-
versation with him, in which Mr. Mann remarked that
he (Mr. C.) had never treated him otherwise than as
a gentleman. He had no other communication with
him, direct or indirect, except by a most courteous
note, to which Mr. Mann's reply was most uncivil and
low-bred. He mentioned this, in order that although
he would not himself be tempted out of propriety,
Mr. Mann should not clamour about the discourtesy
he received from other parishioners. He would now,
not as an advocate of his own rights, for this he knew
was useless, but as amicus curia, advise them not to
take measures for another humiliating defeat.
Mr. MANN—You come as any thing rather than
amicus.
Mr. C. CHILDS—I did not say of the Churchwar-
dens or their party, but curia, and I am sure your
Chairman will not refuse me permission to repeat that
you have already, on the authority of names which you
would yourselves most highly estimate, placed your-
selves in a position of difficulty from which extrication
is impossible. You paid dearly for neglecting my
warning before—the penalty will be heavier this time.
The rate was then passed, and after two hours spent
in making an assessment, the Vestry was dissolved.

DINNER TO MR. WYSE.—It appears to be
the general feeling amongst the constituents of the Hon-
ourable Member for Waterford, that, his re-election under
such cheering auspices to Ireland should be commemorated
by the Citizens. A public dinner has been suggested, and
the suggestion has our decided approval. It will brin
together the independent spirit of the City and verify the
saying of the Roman Poet—
" Huse res et jungit, junctos et servat amicos."
The whole Liberal constituency will be present, and form
a band of union which Toryism never can dissever or dis-
turb.— Waterford Chronicle.
A very smart shock of an earthquake was felt in
this city and neighbourhood about one o'clock on Monday
morning. The sensation was more particularly observed
about Kingsdown, and we have been told of several parties
who felt their beds rock under them, and doors were thrown
open, crockery displaced, and unusual noises heard. The
shock was also felt on the other side of the water, in
Newport, Cardiff, and other places in South Wales.
Bristol Gazette.
When, at the termination of the Mahratta war,
Mohiput Ram, at a secret conference, offered the Duke of
Wellington ten lacs of rupees (70,0001.) for some infor-
mation respecting the particular districts which were to be
ceded by treaty to his master, the Nizam, " Can you
keep a secret ?" asked the Duke, with affected earneEt-
ness. " I ean," said Mohiput Ram, fully and eagerly ex-
pecting the desired disclosure. "So can 1," was the an-
swer. And yet his early difficulties had taught him keenly
the value of money, and he looked with sufficiently long-
ing eyes at the great prizes of worldly ambition ; but even
the richest of them was not, for a moment, to be thought
of, when the consideration of it involved any violation of
the principles of truth or honour.—Alison.
Mr. Wm. Anseltn Townsend was last week re-
moved from Monmouth gaol to the Milbank Penitenti
in London, in accordance with the directions of the Home
Secretary.