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London, England, 1837-06-27 00:00:00

MR. LAING.

Mr. HAWES wished to know whether the Noble
Lord the Secretary of State for the Home Department
had had his attention drawn to the two cases which ap-
peared in the Morning chronicle on the 16th of the pre-
sent month, in one of which it was represented that a
police magistrate, in a state of intoxication, had given a
a gentleman in custody, and who was subsequently dis-
charged by that very Magistrate, on the ground that there
was no foundation whatever for the charge. The other
case which appeared in the same paper was, where the
Chief Magistrate of Bove-street had suspended the
execution of a warrant in the case of felony, the
consequence of which was, that the individual had not been
taken into custody, the Magistrate himself being security
for his appearance. The Hon. Member wished to know
whether the Noble Lord's attention had been called to
these cases, and whether he had thought proper to institute
proceedings to protect the public ?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that with respect to the
first case he had made inquiries upon the subject, but
finding that it was the intention of the parties to bring an
action against the person complained of, he thought it would
be unfair to give any answer to the Hon. Member until
the case had been investigated in a court of law. With
respect to the other case, upon inquiry he had found that
Sir F. Roe, having no doubt, from the circumstances of
the party who had been accused of the transaction, that he
would appear and answer the charge, had adopted the
course he had done in the present instance. He (Lord J.
Russell) believed that such a course was not uncommon,
when it was certain that the party would appear.
Mr. HUME wished to know whether the party charged
had not forfeited his recognisances.
Lord J. RUSSELL said he believed not.
POST-OFFICE STEAM PACKETS.

Lord SANDON asked whether it was the intention of
the Government to adopt the system of contract with re-
spect to the Post-office Steam Packets ?
Mr. BARING said it was the intention of the Govern-
ment to adopt the contract system ; but some time would
necessarily elapse before any alteration could be made in
the present system.
CHURCH LEASES.

Mr. GOULBURN wished to have some reason given
by the Noble Lord why he persevered in the nomination
of the Church Lease Committee when he had postponed
the other public business? and was proceeding to make
some observations, but was interrupted by
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, who said there was no ques-
tion before the House, and the Right Hon. Gentleman was
consequently out of order. All he had done was to have
the Order of the Day read for the appointment of the
Committee. What he had to state was a few reasons why
the Committee should be appointed. The resolution in fa-
vour of appointing that Committee was carried by a majority
of 83, and he would have proceeded immediately on the next
day to have named the Committee, if he had not been
desirous to have some time in order to consult Hon. Mem-
bers whether they would consent to become Members of
the Committee. He did try several, among whom were
the Right Hon.• Gentleman the Member for the Univer-
sity of Cambridge, the Right Hon. Baronet the Member
for Tamworth, the Hon. and Learned Member for Exeter,
and the Hon. Member for Oxford, all of whom had declined
to have their names attached to that Committee.—( Hear,
hear.) The Right Hoe. Gentleman, the Member for the
University of Cambridge (Mr. Goulburn) from what he
had just stated, would wish to know why, as the general
business of the House was to be postponed, it was advis-
able they should proceed with the appointment of the
Church Lease Committee. His (Lord John Russell's)
answer to that inquiry was, that he thought it would
tend, on the whole, to save time
.with respect to
any measure they might hereafter adopt. He could not
anticipate, after the vote of so large a majority of that House,
and the attention which had been directed to this subject by
the public, that some measure would not be ultimately adopted.
It did appear to him necessary there should be a Committee
appointed at once, so that they might have' a course of
examination on the subject, rather than delay it till the com-
mencement of the new Parliament, because they might then
have to wait two or three mouths for returns which, if the
Committee were appointed, could be ordered at once, and
therefore would be ready next Session.—(Hear.) He did
not wish to have the Committee appointed for the purpose
of entering into controverted points, but for that of getting
information, and in proposing the Committee, he begged
leave to move that Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer be a
member of it.
Mr. GOULBURN'S objection to the appointment of
the Committee now was, that the Members who were ap-
pointed on that Committee might not be Members in the
next Session of Parliament—( Hear, and a laugh) ; and what-
ever their decision might be, it was liable to be overturned
on the sitting of the Committee next Session. And, in the
next place, he would state to the Noble Lord that
the orders of the Committee made at present, as soon
as Parliament terminated its existence, would have no au-
thority on those upon whom they were served, nor would
those parties be liable to any censure if they objected
to comply with them ; and therefore, as far as regarded the
procuring of information for the Committee that might sit
hereafter, the proceeding of the Noble Lord would prove
altogether abortive. He (Mr. G.) most solemnly protested
against a course of proceeding which was not necessary
for the purpose of prosecuting any future inquiry, and
could only have one object—namely, that of producing
a harsh representation of the case, and making an impres-
sion which ought not to be created upon any such sub-
ject, and least of all upon a subject which affected so
large a mass of private property.—(Cries of " Hear.")
Although he did not mean to offer any objection to the
names, he could not satisfy himself without entering his
most decided protest against what he must consider a
partial proceeding.
The following Committee was then appointed :—Mr.
Chancellor of the Exchequer, 'Lord Viscount Howick, Mr.
Pusey, Mr. Lambton, Mr. Granville Vernon, Mr. Pease, Mr.
Ellice, Mr. Gaily Knight, Mr. Charles Buller, Mr. Ingham,
Mr. Attorney-General, Mr. Solicitor-General, Mr. Benett,
Mr. Aglionby, Mr. William Punsonby, Mr. Jervis, Sir
Charles Lemon, Mr. Loch, Mr. Hector, Mr. William
Crawford, Mr. Shaw Lefevre.
AGRICULTURAL BANK.
In answer to a question from Col. PERCEV AL,
'l'he CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said if
it had not been in deference to the Hon. Member who had
charge of the Bill he should move that the Bill for the dis-
solution of the Agricultural Bank be read a second time
that day six months—but he should when the second
reading came on, give the Bill on the part of the Govern-
ment his most strenuous opposition.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. Sergeant JACKSON also intimated his intention to
oppose theßill.
Lord STANLEY begged to know whether the Go-
vernment had any objection to allow a return to be made of
the proportionate amount of tithes payable by the land-
lords of the several parishes in, Ireland ?
Lord JOH N RUSSELL—The Government had no ob-
jection if the returns could be procured.
SUPPLY—MISCELLANEOUS ESTIMATES.
On the motion of Mr. BARING, the House then went
into Committee of Supply, Mr. LABOUCHERE in the Chair.
KENSINGTON GARDENS.

Mr. GOULBURN would take that opportunity of
complaining of the manner in which all the large trees on
one side of the Kensington Gardens had been cut down.
These Gardens were a place of recreation to all classes of •
the inhabitants of London ; and although the young trees
which had been substituted might look more pleasing in the
eye of a planter, he must say they had injured the beauty
of the Gardens very much. Unless sonic restraint was
placed upon those who had the management of the Gardens,
all the large and majestic trees which remained would, ho
feared, be cut down.
Mr. METHUEN defended the• alterations which had
taken place with reference to these Gardens, and could state
positively that all the trees that had been cut down last
year were in a dying state, many of therri having been blown
down by the wind.
Sir J. HOB HOUSE confirmed the statement of the
Hon. Member, and the conversation dropped. .
The vote of 25,000/. for altering the barracks at Dart-
moor into a prison for juvenile offenders, was agreed to.
After a few observations from Mr. HUME,
The grant for the improvement of the Custom House
was also agreed to.
On the motion for a grant of 76,7001. for the salaries of
the Officers of both Houses being put,
Mr. HUME said it was his opinion that estimates of that
nature should be submitted to a Committee of Inquiry.
49,700/. to defray the expenses of her Majesty's Trea-
sury.
After a few words from Mr. HUME, relative to the
manner in which the accounts were prepared, the vote was
agreed to.
70,867/. to defray the expenses of her Majesty's Secre.
taries of State.—Agreed to.
14,0001. to defray the expenses of the Insolvent Court.
Mr. HUME said that expense had been entailed upon
the country by their not passing the Imprisonment for Debt

Bill, and he hoped another Session would not pass until

such a Bill hadbeen carried.

The vote was then agreed to.
13,0001. to defray the expenses of the Penitentiary.
Mr. FLUME hoped the Government would take charge
of the Penitentiary, and put an end to the expense of its

maintenance in its present state.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL slid there had been a reduc-
tion in the estimates of 5,000/. since 1835, and the povvers
of the Board had been very much curtailed.

The vote was then agreed to.
On a sum of 11,825/. being proposed for defraying the
expenses of the Charity Commissioners,
Mr. HUME said that large sums of money had
been expended on this subject, but as yet no prac-
tical good had resulted from it. Lord Brougham
had introduced a Bill on the subject, but which be believed
had not been proceeded with. He trusted, however, the
Government would see that some effectual measure was
introduced and carried through the House.

Lord J. RUSSELL said-he believed the Commission
would terminate in about a month, and next Session
he would introduce some measure on the subject.—( Hear,
hear, hear.) If he did not, the Honourable Member
for Middlesex could remind him of it.

The vote was agreed to.
The Vote for defraying the expenses of the Poor Law
Commissioners was agreed to, after a few observations front
the CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER, Mr. O'BarEN, and
Mr. HINDLEY.

The vote of 14,7001. for carrying into effect the provi-
sion of the Convention between Foreign Powers for the
prevention of the Slave Trade was also agreed to.
The following were then voted :-
42,1001. for salaries and expenses for the office of his
Majesty's Paymaster-General.
Mr. HUME previously observing, that though the con-
solidation of the three offices into one was a great deal
gained, the reduction was not sufficient in point of expense.
14,300/. for the Comptroller-General of the Exchequer
and the Paymaster of Civil Services.
2,006/. for salaries and allowances to certain professors

[n the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge.

3,9851. for the expenses of the State Paper Office, the
office for the Custody of Records in the Tower, and the
office for the Custody of Records in the Chapter House,
Westminster.
5,1001. for the " Commission for digesting the several
Statutes relating to Criminal and other Law."
11,8251. for the Commission for inquiring into Public
Charities."
6,3351. for the Commission to inquire into the opportu-
tunities of Religious Worship, and means Religious Instruc-
tion afforded to the people of Scotland.
2,5001. for the Ecclesiastical Commission for England.
100,389/. for her Majesty's Consuls-General, Consuls,
and Vice-Consuls, and of the Suprint.ndents of trade at
Canton.
Lord S A NDON complained that the British trade on the
the coast of Spain suffered severely from the abuse or ne-
glect of the Consuls established there. It was only that
morning he presented a memorial to the Foreign °face
from all the merchants in the Spanish trade in Liverpool on
the subject.
Mr. P. THOMSON, in the absence of the Noble Lord
the Forciom Secretary, defended the Consuls. He said that,
as far as he was concerned, they always supplied the Go-
vernment with the best and earliest information.
Mr. HUME said that something should be done to sup-
press the infamous traffic in slaves, which was now going on
as freely as ever, and with greater circumstances of cruelty,
in consequence of the greater risk incurred by the traders.
He was of opinion that nothing short of obtaining the con-
currence of other Powers to a declaration that slave-trad-
ing was piracy would effectually stop it. At this moment
he was informed British capital was engaged in the traffic.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sir E. Codrington,
Mr. G. F. Young, and Captain Dundas severally made a
few observations deprecatory of the traffic, and expressive
of abhorrence of the cruelties said to be practised in it.
9,9531. for the inspectors and superintendents of factories
under the Act 3 and 4 Wm. 4th, entitled the " Factory
Act."

In reply to a question from Mr. HINDLEY,
Lord J. RUSSELL said the amount of this estimate
was increased, because the number of inspectors and super-
intendents had been increased, in consequence of complaints
that their fewness was the cause of inefficiency and inope-
rativeness in the Act.
5,8001. for the Inspectors of Prisons.
51,8401. for the several branches of the Mint.
79,3341. for allowances or compensations granted as su-
perannuation or retired allowances to persons formerly em-
ployed in the public offices or departments, or in the public
service.
On the resolution that 2,6001. be granted for the use of
Dissenting Clergymen in England,
Mr. BAINES objected to the vote, on the ground that
the Dissenters were opposed to their Clergymen being paid
in such a meaner.
Sir R. Inglis, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Sir
E. Knatchbull supported the grant, Lich, after a feu words
from Mr. Hume and Mr. Hindley, in opposition to it, was
agreed to.
The sum of 35,0981. was proposed to be voted for the use
of her Majesty, as secret service mouey.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG hoped that no part of this money
was to be applied to electioneering purposes. He should
like to hear such an application of it disavowed, as it was
very generally believed out of doors that some of this money
was disposed of in the way he had named.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could
asure the lion. Gentleman that, as far as he knew, no part
of the money voted under the head of secret service money
had ever been applied to electioneering purposes. The fact
was that the Under Secretary of State was obliged to au-
thenticate upon oath before the auditors of the Treasury
the manner in which every shilling of this money was dis-
posed of.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG having expressed himself perfectly
satisfied with the explanation the vote was agreed to.
On the resolution to grant the sum of 173,6301. to de-
fray the expenses of stationery, printing, and publishing for
the use of both Houses of Parliament,
Mr. HUME said that he thought it quite an unneces-
sary waste of the public money to have two separate print-
ing establishments, as at present.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that he intended to try the experiment of bringing the
whole under the management of the Stationery Office, and
disconnect this part of the public service from the Excise
Office altogether.
The vote was then agreed to.
11,0001. was voted t) defray law expenses.
53,0001. was voted to defray the expenses of convicts at
home and at Bermuda.
244,0001. for conveying convicts to New South Wales
was agreed to ; as were also the following votes :-
20,000!. for the erection of schoolhouses for the poor of
England ;
10,0001. in aid of private subscriptions for the establisl.-
moot of model schools ;
24,0001. for salaries of Registering Barristers ;
43,450/. for expenses of Sheriffs and other officers ;
83,0001. for certain charges connected with the coun;y
rates ;
10,0001. for the relief of Polish refugees.
Lord D. STUART considered this vote far too small
to effect the object.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER eulo-
gised the benevolent motives of the Noble Lord, but said
that increasing the vote would only be holding out a pre-
mium to foreigners to come to England for relief.
Mr. HUME also hoped the Noble Lord would not at-
tempt to increase the grant.
Lord D. STUART said that, in deference to what ap-
peared to be a general opinion, he would not press his sug-
gestion. He thought, however, that all the unfortunate
Poles who had been forced to come over here ought to
participate in the national aid. He wished the Chancellor
of the Exchequer would give them less grandiloquence and
a little more of facts.
The vote was then agreed to.
The next vote, of 1,0001., for a survey of New Holland,
was then agreed to.
The next vote, of 1,5751., to the trustees of the British
Museum, for the purchase of shells, &c., was agreed to.
The next vote was of 3,7881. for the civil establishment of
the Bahama Islands.—Agreed to, as also was that of
3,0071. for the Leeward Islands.
The next vote, of 4,9741., for the civil establishment of
the Bermudas, was also agreed to.
The next vote, of 11,0301., for the civil establishment nn
the western coast of Africa, was also agreed to ; as also
was the next, of 14,1401.. for the ecclesiastical establish-
ment of the North American colonies.
The next vote, of 7,0001., for presents to the Indians of
Canada, was also agreed to.
The next vote, of 16,835/., to defray the charge of the
General Government of West Indian Colonies was also
agreed to, as also was the next, of 968/., for the civil esta-
blishment of Heligoland.
A sum of 80,0001. was granted to her Majesty for the
expense to be incurred in aiding the local legislatures in
providing for the religious and moral instruction of the
emancipated negro population.
On the motion that a sum of 2,668/. be granted for de-
fraying the expenses of the agents for emigration,
Mr. O'BRIEN expressed a hope that the claims of
Limerick to have such an officer appointed there would be
taken into consideration by the Government.
Sir GEORGE GREY said the relative claims of diffe-
rent places to have emigration agents were under the con-
sideration of the Government.
Mr. HUME wished to know if any inquiry had talsen
place into the circumstances of the individoall who had died
on their passage from want ?

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The vote was then agreed to.
A sum of 18,0001. was granted to defray the expenses of
the civil establishment at St. Helena, and of pensions and
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allowances to the civil and military officers and soldier of :
the East India Company's late establishment in that island. *.
A sum of 7,4001. was granted in aid of the expenses ofo
the Civil Government of Nova Scotia, and for the erection •
ii
of a lighthouse there. I
A sum of 14,0001. was granted to defray the charges of
the repairs of the Rideau and Ottawa canals in Canada.
On the motion that a sum of 60,000/. be granted, to cll4
able the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to issue money for the
advancement of education in that country, ~
Mr. F. SHAW objected to the grant.
Viscount MORPETH defended the vote.
Mr. PLUMPTRE opposed it.
After a discussion, in which the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer, Colonel Perceval, Mr. French, Mr. V. Smith, .;
Mr. Sergeant Jackson, Viscount Morpeth, Mr. T. Bar- 1
ring, Mr. Wolfe, Lord Sandon, Mr. Shaw, and Sir R.
Bateson took part, the vote was agreed to.
The followiag votes were then agreed to :-
13,400/. for the Foundling Hospital, Dublin. I
20,0001. for the House of Industry, Dublin.
1501. for the Hibernian Marine Society.
1,000/. for the Female Orphan House, Dublin. 1
2,500/. for the Westmoreland Lock Hospital.
1,000/. for the Lying-in Hospital.
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500/. for the Hospital for Incurables.
On the vote that 8,9281. be granted towards the sup- ,
port of the Roman Catholic College of Maynooth,
Colonel PERCEVAL felt bound to protest against ary
1 such grant being made. A

Mr. HAMILTON felt bound to object to this vote.
Sir R. B..kTESON also felt bound to oppose this vote.
In his opinion this grant waa pregnant with infinite evil to
the people of Ireland, because the clergy educated in May-
nooth were selected from the lowest grades of society and
the most bigotted principles were instilled into their minds.
If any Hon, Member divided the House against this grant,
he should feel it to be his conscientious duty to support him.
Sir It. INGLIS had offered no opposition to this vote,
because he regarded it as a legacy left by the Irish Parlia
ment to this country at the time of the Union.

Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN objected to the grant on the
ground that it was too small.

Lord, SAN DON thought there ought to be a provision'
for the education of the Roman Catholic Clergy of Ire-
land ; at the same time he must say that he considered the
system of education at Maynooth an extremely bad one.
Mr. HUME would oppose this grant if Hon. Gentlemen
on the other side would sanction the voluntary principle
with regard to all other sects.
Dr. BOWRING thought it illiberal on the part of
Hon, Members to object to the grant to the Roman
Catholics, while they sanctioned the Regium Donum.
Lord CLEMENTS thought the sum so small that it
was a mere mock liberality on the part of that House, anc
unless the Hon. Member for the University of Oxford way
prepared to throw open the Universities for the educatiot
of the Roman Catholic Priesthood, he had no ground fa
objecting to that vote.
Mr. LAMBTON begged to ask Hon. Gentlemen oppo
site whether Protestant Clergymen in England did not tak
part in elections ?
Mr. CALLAGHAN defended the Roman Catholic
Cl

Mi. BORTH WICK defended the Protestant Clerg)
of England, and did not consider this a favourable perioc
to raise a discussion on the question of the Maynooth grant.
Mr. PLUMPTRE said that he could not consent tt
vote away the public money to support a religion whose
doctrines were so erroneous.

The Committee then divided, and there appeared—
For the grant 52
Against it l2
Majority 4O

The remaining estimates were then agreed to, and the
report, as we understood, was ordered to be received to•
morrow (this day.)
On the motion that the Final Register of Electors Bil
be read a second time, a short conversation took place of
the propriety of postponing it, when, on the motion of Mr
SHAW, the House divided, and forty Members not beiN
present, the House was counted out at a quarter to tw(
o'clockr

The once-celebrated dwarf, the little Polish Coun
Boroloski, is now living in comfortable retirement in an ele
gant cottage on the banks of the river Wear, near the city o'
Durham. Although the little gentleman has passed his 99?
winter, he has the happiness to enjoy uninterrupted health
but his strength has somewhat declined. ' It is not unreason
able to expect that the Count will survive beyond the cente
nary. Cumberland Packet.

The quantity of iron made in this country duriq
the year 1836, Las been estimated at the enormous quantity (
a million tons ; the average price of pig-iron for the year being
about 71. per ton, and that of bar-iron about 11/. per ton.

On Monday morning week a person of the name cl
Wilding, residing at Ulnes Walton, went to a neighbour')
house, and the occupier of the house being a very free oper-
hearted man, invited him to have a bit of pie with him.
Wilding had no objections, and accordingly began his repaki
which consisted of two pies, each being forty seven inches i.
circumference, very well filled with mutton and potatoes. Th
host having no more pies, he placed before Wilding
lump of uncooked bacon, weighing about three pounds and
half, which was soon eaten up with great eagerness. Th,
astonishment of the inviter did not stop his liberality, for I,
thought Wilding might as well leave him destitute of pro
visions ; accordingly he brought out a threepenny loaf, thre,
oatmeal cakes, and about two pounds of Cheshire cheese, whir,
Wilding devoured in a short time. The latter having mad
too free with his mouth and caused it to blister, he went haste
fully away to John Langton's, the Manor House in Ulne
Walton, and partook of a gallon of wholesome old ale. Wild
ire's neighbour was therefore left destitute of pies, bacon, at,(
cheese, and bread, the single meal of this giant of a gourma►:d
—Blackburn Gazelle.

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