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before mentioned of 1,695,00 e was -rounded upon
the same Principle as that of this Country,. which
had been introduced by a Right; Hon. Gentleman
_lately at the head of die Finance, and which,had
been attended with such beneficial effcas. The
original Sinking Fund of Ireland • was adopted in
Ireland,- under the patronage of a Right Hon.
Friend of his, and it then amounted to no more than
toditioc:,l; a-ye4ira-j---It bore a ptoportion to the Debt -
of that Country oft to 70; whereas the Sinking
Fund .of. England, at its .Establishment, bore a pro-
portion to the Debt.of tto 230. Since the ESta::
blishment of the Sinking Fund in Ireland, it had
raid off alio'crt'a Million of the Debt,. and it now
amounted to 1.86,0001. a year. He would say no
more it presOit,4on thii part of the:subjett.--
The next ,of the Separate Charge of
Ireland, was the Sum of 622,0°61. for the Corn-.
pensation for Boroughs, which was all that it was
thought desirable to raise in one year. The next.
item was too,oool. for the improvement of the In-
land Navigatnin ; these three Sums together, made
something: more than 2,400,0001. which formed the
Separate -Charge which was to be provided for by
Ireland. With res'pett to the proportion of the
Joint Charge which Ireland was to bear, a very
large part of it, viz. +,150,0001. was for the Mi..
litary Expences. The other part of the Joint
Charge, which was for Civil purposes, amounted to
above 600,0601. making together something snore
than 4,700 0001. exclusiVe of 300,0001. for the
Vote-of Credit. This, added to the Sum which he
had stated as necessary for the Separate Charge of
Ireland, would make the whole amount of the Sup-
plies necessary to be provided' by Ireland for the
present year, above,. 7, too,oool. He would now
state the Ways and Means by which he proposed to
cover this Chaige. It was cusiomary, in the Parlia-
ment oflreland, previous to the Union, to grant the
Supplies from the .25th of March in one year, to the
2s t h March, in. the next year. Last year the same plan
was adhered ..to, and the Supplies were granted to
the usual period, and provision was made accordingly.
But in consequence of the Ad of Union, the joint
charges between the two Countries commenced from
the ist of Jan. 18ot, and Consequently the Supplies
from that period. to the 25th of March, 'must be
thrown into the joint estimate._ It would, there-
fore, he necessary to disappropriate the balances re...
maining in, the. Treasury• of Ireland for the period
he had mentioned, in order to make them applica-
ble to the current Service of the present year. The
amount of the balances in the Treasury 'of Ireland,
on the Ist of Jan. iBot, amounted to 1,697,0001.
besides Soo,oool. the balance of the Loans.—
In addition to those, were to be .taken into con;
sideration the Revenues of the Country, which con-
sisted of the same leading articles as those of Great
Britain, viz. in Port Duties, or in other words, in
Customs, which,' in Jrcland, were 'termed Port...
Duties, in the Inland Duties, in the Assessed Taxes,
and in the Revenue arising from the Post-Office.
The Income arising from the Port Duties amounted
to' about 2,500,0001. from Stamps about 150,0001.
and from the Post-Office only about 20,0°01. after
defraying the charge of collating. In estimating
the Revenues of the current 'year, he should form
his calculation upon the three quarters of the
year up to Christmas last ; they amounted then to
.1. 0, r.t..1 ..,144 0,0,4 r
whole produce at 2,400,0001.7,He begged leave
here to remark,' thatin the Revenue received in the
three quarters upon which he was calculating; there
was not included any produce of the duty upon
Malt. The reason of this must be obvious to the
CoMmittee ; the distress of the Country was so
great, that it became necessary to stop the making,
of Malt. It was true that it was 'permitted for a
short time in the month of 01ober, but those who
knew the mode in which the amount of these Du-
ties were returned, must know that.tbe Officer did
not make his return until a month after it was tol-
letled, and that a month's time, was given for, its
paymen4 consequently the Duties which arose
during the short period that it was allowed to make
Malt, did not come into the Treasury until after
Christmas, and consequently' did not come within
the three quarters upon which he had estimated. He
would take the produce of this Duty at zoo,oool.
which would make the Revenue amount to about
2,600,0001. It had been usual; in Ireland, to have
one or two Lottericsio the course of the year, and
as he saw no objedion to it, he should propose on
for the present year, the produce of which he should.
take at t so,oool. The sums. applicable to the Set-
vicewould then be s, 47,0001.
of the present* year,
Balance in the "ircisuiy ,C, ,697,000
Balance of the two I.oans - - - Ro*,eoo
Estimated Revenue - . - 2,400,000
Loitery - -

Making altogether . - . 5,247,0
Froth this Sum there was to be a dedution of
230,0001. for 'the Loyalists-, which had not yet
been paid, and which it was necessary to pay as soon'
as possible,. in, order to enable those unfortunate
persons to rebuild their houses, and to restore the
industry of the Country. There was also a Sum of
70,0001; to be deductedi paid by Ireland to her
Forces in the Garrisons of Great Britain, which
would leave the Sum remaining applicable to the
Service of the year, 4,94.7,0001. There was •an.
other Sum which he had to mention, though it did
not form a part of the Charge or Expenditure of the
present year, and that was about half a Million
of Exchequer Bills, or Treasury Bills, as .they were
cijled in Ireland, because they were -calculated in
the Debt which he had stated, and provided for
,in
the interest. They -were, therefore, no charge
upon the Public this year, except that, as they were
issued
,at 5 per Cent. and the. money borrowed to
pay them was at rather more than 5 per Cent. It
was also to he.,ipberyed, that as long as they re-
mained ExchNuerc,l4lls, there was. not the expence
of I per Cent,. for, the Sinking Fund, which would
be necessary: as soon as. they, were funded ; but with
the' exception
,of this sum, which did not. amount
to above 10,0001. they constituted no part of the
charge of the present year. The Ways and Means
being therefore Unequal to the- supply of the year,
it became necessary to borrow the sum of 2,500,0001.
The Committee would now perceive the manner in
which lie proposed to cover the Supplies of the year.
fie should proceed to state the new Taxes; and
in this part of the subjeCt be should occupy as little
of the time of the Committee as voluble. The

urn neCeSSary.. to DM prOVIa(O
.a 5 tne interest and
Charge, of the Debt, including the t per Cent. for
the Sinking Fund; ivould amount -to r043,0001T but
in providing the Taxes it would be necessary
to take intb• consideration three other items.—
In consequence of. the Union there were. to be no
Duties upon-the Exports and Imports from either
Country, and, in the arrangement of the Duties,
there liould• be a defivierrer.onmsboopoomermatelis

of 6otoool. and that sum it woulebe necessary Co
makeup. There was another small sum which he
hadJoinention, and iri -Com?

mittee would eoncur with, him in'-=opinion. -It was
7sPitil.respeEt!to a Tax upon Absentees, which was
•ivqy,,,sniall in its amount, -notexceeding.SooOf. but
lis-,(4en-tieitwri:,were now bound in duty to attend a
certain pact of the .year in -this Country it would
be absurd to Make them- liable to a Tax for that
which they did in discharge of their duty. It
was ',therefore intended to abandon -that Tax. -H
Another article by which the Revenue of Ireland
would be diminished- was, the dtity on Hops, which
it was necessary to-reduce to the same amount that-
.it .was in this Country. This would create a de-'
ficiency of ' 75,0001. . All these sums, together
would
.make the sum necessary to be*provided for
by Taxes 263,0001. In seleaipg the new Taxes,
it was natural for him to look to those of
this Country, and to rely upon the great eit-
perience and authority of the-Right Hon. Gentle-
man by whom they were proposed... It was.' besides
desirable, that the Taxes should bes Upon the shrine
Articles, if not to the same amount in the two
Countries, unless there was, some local
.reason which
rendered it _improper. ,The first article, therefore,
he should have to mention, Would be that Of Sugiii.
—ln. point of :fart, there was no
_choice
.upon.this
subjett ; because, in consequence of the Colonial --
Compad entered, into between the two COuntri6
in the year 1780,, it was stipulated that all articles
should come to Irelandirom the Colonies.subjed.to
the same Duties that they *came 'to England,
therefore when the Duties, were increased in Eng-
land they were increased in Ireland, and when they
were diminished ' in England
,they were. also dimi-
nished in Ireland. The. Duty he should propose 'Was
-as..,p(ir hill:tired weight, and
staking the average
quantitytof,4- ?liar consumed it? Ireland in the cduirst
of three years last past, he should estimate the'Re:
. venue arising from it at 24,0001. The next was an
article on which be trusted the Committee wtsiitti
pardon him if he occupied their attemion -for a-few
moments, while he stated the 'difference which sub-
sisted between the Mode of collecting the De y-Yn
this Country and in Ireland. The Duty -vas paid
according to• the quality of the Tea, viz..biackjea
of as. a pound paid a Duty of 51d. and green tea or
-7d. a. pound ; the Duty increased upon eery 6d.
increase in the priCe of a pound of tea; the ef-
fed of this was, that the Duty only attached
when _there was an increase' of 6d. in the pound ;
he should now propose
.to make the duty operate
according. to the regular and gradual increase of
the price'. This alteration, with the Duty, would
make. the whole amount to about :3 lr cent.
making the increase not more than :6 or 8 per cent.,
The duty even now with this increase would be
lower than it was in England. The next ,source
co which he lOoked for An increase of-Income was
Lim ontilaectript
frank in Ireland had been, in consequence of the
Union, diminished by two-thirds, exclusive. of the
Peers ;. and those WllO were entitled to fratirm-uk
necessarily pass a considerable part of their' tithe let
this Country—But .he did not thinlc. he should-lie'
• justinediti looking.fora greater sum-in addition to
the present revenue of the Post-OttEe than soco~.
The next article was an 'idditiorial. 'Duty uptin
Stamps, upon liotes, Bills of Exchange, Receipts,
Bonds (far the, payment of mciney, not for • the
performance- of Cuntrads), and. Policies 'of 'mut-
ance. These were 'nearly the ,same articles -which.
were the-oojeas of taxation in thi, Country, *i:h
the exception' of Deeds, upon which it was not his
intention to ptopose a Duty. It was not so easy to
estimate the' produce of this Tax in _lreland- as it

would be in gngland, from the different regulation
with respea to Stamps and the (fiffeient mode of
keeping their aCcoUnts. He could not, .therefore,
venture to state, with any -.cerrainty, what the
amount of the Tax would be, but he did. not think,
it could. produee„more than -0001. He haalsolo
PropOse,,a Ta?c upon Policies of Insurance -whith did
hitherto not exist before in Ireland. ',The, liPtler-
Writers of this Country were afraid, upon the increase
in theStampputies, thatpersims would be induced to
go over. to Ireland, and open Offices, there .But as
there was little, Insurance in Ireland, Most of it
being done in England, that Tax upon Policies of
Insurance' would not injure the Trade of' Ireland,
and it' would only prevent them from going to Ire-
land, in order to evade this Tax in this Country.—:-;

There was another article which lie.had to mention,
and to which he begged the particaar attention of
the Committee, he meant Coals. He begged to,
'deprecate most earnestly, beingmisuhderstood upon
this subjea,becanse any misconception might mate
conslntrand, 'alarm. In consequence of the Union
no Diity. could be levied upon the prodUce of
either Country :going to the other. Heretofore
there ve,as a duty in,.rhis. Country, upon Coals going
to Ireland of about loci. per ton,,producing a Re_
'. venue of about r 7,0001. a ygar.—This duty could
not now be collated in England, and; tbefefore;• it
was proposed'to collect it in, Ireland.; but.iie lityftd •
no mistake could arise upon the ,übjeZli it was not
'intended to lay any additional -burthen upon Ire:
He•was. anxious iliac no. alarm be; created
either among the Colliers of this Country oirthe
-Manufaaurers of Ireland, for there would he no
increase in duty, it was merely intended to collea'a
duty„yillich bad been raised in this Country; ip 'lre-
land, and 'if the -Coal Ttacter in. Ireland' shotild
attempt to make This a initex.i 'to 'raise the price of
tlie,..articie, it would. be iinpoible
„for him to'
ayoid,detedion, and that disgrace wllich would be:.
long to .suclidiShonesty: Haring said this flinch to
prevent the possibility of being misunderstood upon
this point; he should propose a cipty upon Coils of
tod.‘a ton, which wbuld-pr'oduce the same sum in
that Country, that the duty produced in this Country
while it ixisted. Thtse-sums taken altogether rt,,,,!t-e
about lt would lie. -necessary for.,"nrm to
mention one other item. The Committee wf,uld recol:
lea that, 'in the observations he had irac e, he had'

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Revenue for three.qearters of a year, upon which he
had founded his calculation, the Distilleries - were
not included ; .because in consequence-of the pros_
sure 'of the times they had been stopped. In
other years the ReVenue arising froth, the .Dis_
tilleries had amounted to 400,0001, and some_
times near half a million. In the month of August
4,16,6,06,‘,4,64664&gpiven tovdiStil from qua-4_ in
consequence of ere Itrrererrebtnatrf.
able increase in the' importation of 'Sugar; but as
-the-P4l4.l).44ii.s.aspOn_the Sugat;were
_taken off'., male a
it was- allowed' to be distilled, the incorne-WaTiif
course small, and the Excise duty upon the Spirits
so distilled did not exceed 5.5 ,0001. There was great
reason to 'eXped that the importation of Sugar this
}'ear would be considerable ;• he- had, spoken -of
Sugar before, but he wished tci-kcep;distina that
which was for: the ordinary eousuMption, fro
that which was for , the . purpose 'of distilling,
The ordinary' consumption of Spirits in Irelarid
in foriner years was between three and four mil.:
lions of gallons ; but it was not possible that the
,consumption could be. as great this year as it. was
uponfermerbecasions. The distress of the Coun-
-try must diminish the consumption, from the want
of Means of purchasing. Besides, . the high price 'of
-Spirits would give encouragement 'to smuggling,
and to the distilling from Grain in the stills in the
mountains. From all- these circumstances he was
not disposed to take the consumption this year at
more than-one-third of the usual quantity, and
therefore he should- calculate. the. Duty of`,)n the
Sugar -imported for the purpose of diskilling at
roo,oool. He should also have to.propose an txcise
Duty Upon all Spirits which were so distilled,
which would be' lower, than the Duty of last-year,
and would amount to as. 3d. a gallon. This would,
he - estimated, produce about r te,opol. These
two sums, with the produce of the Taxes which
he had before. mentioned, would more than Co.
yer, as the CoMmittee• would perceive, the sum
which it was necessary to raise by Taxes in the
present year. He ' had . now, as shortly as: he
' was Able, Mani' the Supply and Ways, and Means
of the year, but there was one.subjeCt upon which
he wished to trespass for a . few -menhents longer on
the attention ofthe Committee.- -It had been stated
in
-another place, in the dchate which took place
resyeCting the Union, that it .would effed a sa\ing
to Ireland.--.lt was not necessary upon this part" of
the subje& to go into very minuteiraaions, but-he
• thought it right to: inquire_ what was the saving to
Ireland, and what`was-the additional burthen- which
England incurred in consequenceof the Union ? 'the
- fa& Was, that by the Union there would arise to
Ireland a .saVing of just, One Million. It Would' be
said, then, that if Ireland. did. not pay, Englind
must—,and that if Ireland had a saving of One Mil.
lion, England mist of course have.had all additional
burthen to an equal: tunou-nt. - In point of fad, oche
only additional burthen which Great Britain would
have to. pay would be 369,0001, which :lornieti, the
difference between the expence of Ireland,.which was
4,7 17,000 T. and her prOpOrtibriof the Joint ExPendi.
Ha.o;asdrticshideaurldfaad.oraf.
-mere; which amounted-to. 413 4 8-cooal . . Nobody. could
lament more sincerely than he (lid; the iifortunateme.
cessity which existed, ofmaintaining so large a Force
. in Ireland ; but- pon this. subje4, the Committee
would, :Ile hoped,` bear thin in tome ~„..,a„,,,„.
a.
When the Gentlemen
.of Ireland::almost. unailimotisly.
concurred in representirg the 'state. of that Country
to be -stick,, as to require the' presence of a heat
Military -Force, he did most earnestly depre'eate
.sthioant:fthrotm
eogieetnr:tirrvyaals;; cilao:tialth, 44
weitearuc.
Gentlemen of Ireland' had stated, thatForee.wal
_ necessary for the -safety
deprecated -the. idea of that statement conYitinf
Ali real established charazicr of _the PropleOf_tre.
•land. He; hoped and believed the: flouse had to
much justice to 'mistake: the e'tehiparary - phrenzj
and delirium ofa fever, for the settle 4 arid peerna,
nent disposition of the People. of Ireland. It..wa:
undoubtedly► true, that' a large- portion. of then
had- been deluded into aas of . violence, .I:iti4: hi
.t
trusted they would scon. be-reformed, and thatThej
would be worthy 'to Le -.admitted into thu-bosbao
, and affedions ,of their felloWlubjetts in`.rnglard,
They would then, he was, sere, feel a. grateful re.
sollation. of the.exertions of Many of 414-Nrobeitl
- and Gentieinen Of this Coaelfffs ,-Yillo, had so:nobly
fled to their protection. ' 'He tfit*ted.that the Peeplc
of Ireland
_would, b}' their ititure condigi, , redeen
their eharaCter, -which bad lately been
injured b)
the rfils-Co'nduft ,of iepart of them, and which, he
hoped, veuld not affeEi the minds either of the People
of England, or Of Foreign Nations against them.—
It would indeed be unjust, in deciding upon the
character of a Nation, to draw general conclusions
from imiticular fads., The character of Irishmea
'was
that of a liberal, brave, candid and generous
' People—With many errors undoubtedly, but not ad.
dided -to any vice destrudive of the good ofSn-
'ciety. • It would be injurious to the People of this
Country es. well as of Ireland, to,
judge of their nn.
tural-charaaer from these statere:nts. It would tend
to prevent the English Capitalist from.going over c°
Ireland, and increasing his own wealth, while hcadd.
ed -to thv.. general riches and industry of the Country.
The. Iptdsped. held out in I ereland to th English Ca.
t - pisaliswas highly, tempting, whether.
he was in.
dined to speculate in Land or in Manufaaures.' If
'. .he' wished to advefitureas a Farmer, Ireland held
out advantages, superior to those he could find in
this Country, or, perhaps, in 'any Country in Eu.
. _rope,- 'riie climate rendered _it particularly favour.-
-able fot agricultural pursuits, ant the improvement
Of die Inland Navigation Would, he -had no doubt,
speedily produce the .most beneficial. effects. He fell
peculiar pleastrre-in looking -to r,lteland, .because ii
afforded' the preseeet. bf becom?ng the. Granary 01
this Country, of preventing. a recurrence of that
distress which we now felt, and of rendering us in.
detiendelit. taf that fretarioes..Stipply ‘Vhich we nos
draw, subjeft tel the caprice or enmity bf Foreign
P`owers. Ireland, by furnishing a Supply-at our owl
doOr; would m ;,;:c di. wholly independent of all the
Powers, o.;ici--ai the sam.r: time she would material')
' benef.i- her own..Nlafine. -He trusted,'therefor, tha'
the People of this-Country would.ent be frighten.
' [Country, by state tenet which, though for the- per.
ed 'from , embarking with, theitr• Capitals for that
pose for which they were mentioned,
chataaementioned, yet could no
L be considered as describing the genial