The Sun.
London, England, 1808-05-21 00:00:00

DARDANELLES.

Mr, TityLoa rose to Make his promised Motion
on the subject of the Expedition to Constantinople,.
and'spoke tor nearly two hours, but in so low a tone
of voice, and in such
.an, indistinct manner,' that'
we found it'Utterly impossible to collet any thing
but the general tenor of his speech, and that
very imperfealy. As far, however, as %V4' could,
understand the Bonourable Gentleman, he entered,
into an examination of the nature of the Trea-
ties that had existed between Russia and 'Turkey,
and Contended: that the late Administration had,
without ii&tt, . and in contradie.tion to true . po-
licy, inte..-tertinthe disputes that had Liken place
between those two Countries, relative to I he deposi-
tion of the Hospodars, and the passage or. the .8047
phorus; and -.had plunged 'Great Britain into a war
with therthicimap Porte, because' RUssia :had made
a demand to which it Was not to be expected that
Turkey should accede., The [ion. Gotlemati read
a variety of documents in support of his Aurnent,
and conauded.by moving four Ite4olutions, the firit
of which was as follows---" That his Majesty's Fleet,
under the command of sii T. Duckwo'rth, appeared
in the vicinity of Constantinople, on the 20th of Fe-
bruary, 1407, and after having remained there fot
ten daN, retired without effeaing any important ob-
jed." The other Resolutioni went to expresti a
sense which..the House entertained of the disgrace
that the disastrous result of the Expedition
.refleCted
on the honour and chara6ief of his Majesty's arms.
' On the first Resolution being put,
Mr. T. URZNVILLB expressed the satisfaation
which he felt after such repeated delays, in at length
finding the motion substantiall- before the House,
and in such a shape as to render it tangible. Far was
he from complaining of the ihstitutiorr of enquires
of this nature., On the contrary, he deemed it. most
destrable, that thoSe men who had own_ 'lied pUblic
functions should be called upon, tai the race of the
House and the Country, to Account for their eon-
duct. More particularly were he and his colleagues
4ranfied by the institution of the present Went%
"u: would enable them to remove any untallour.

ante IMpTCS3IOII
Vita respea to melt' comma
• this affair, ,if i=nch impression,l'existed, thoighs' )f
diff, ores at a loss t 0 conceive in tut if
could have originated. s.AS ell .as he , could ens
derstand his Majesty's present Minister% .they,exe
preisly disct timed any participation ,in .the
t ions of this inquiry, still, howeVer, tint-skink It their
duty to consent •to its nod to alloW' of the pro-
duction of the 'Papers 'on hick it to to., be
fouhded, 'Vli this was right end judicious enosigh.
tf he bad any complaint agelinst them, it was, ,that
although they had never theinselves asked for, or
appeared to warrant. an. inquiry,: they had, re •
peatedly-, by insinuation and collateral argutnents,
endeavoured to produc'e' a feeling against iii, Ms.
jesty'..s late Government, which it' was inshoss
sible that at that time they could`combat.e fie
alluded particularly to the observations of the Right •
Flepoprable Secretary of State for the Foreign
Deparinent, 'who, in a. moment, certainly not
of 'deliberation, bin of violence and impetuosity,
had accused the late Adininistiation of con
duet, of hiCh the Official documents in his pasties
"lion must have convinced him that they ‘vere ie.; •
noeent. Tiint Right Hon. Geptlemati had complain-
ed that his Majesty's late Government; at 'the requi-
sition of the Court of St. 'Petersburg!), made a diver-
sion in the South of Europe, With ships without
troops, when that reqhisitioh was for both ships and
troops. No argument was necessary oil ocea- •
sion.
,Let the..Hoese look at the Papers on the table,
and they would perceive,.thet so far from the Expedi-
tion to Constantinople arisingout ofany such reqeisis
tiori froth the Court of St. Petersboth as that alluded' -
to, it originated in the negotiatiori that was 'eart;tsd
on by Mr. Arbuthnot at Constantinople it elf:
did not Mean to follow the Honourable. M'wer of
the present .questien at' any great lereb; beceuse,'
without meaning any disrespectto him, he did trot
think that there was a man in the H2Ouse Who would
adopt the line of argtimept pursued by the Honour-.
able Gehtleman. The right of interference beta.vesei
Russia and Turkey, which Great Britain le3ssessisds
was indisputable. Both the Treaty of lee% and
that which followed the Peace 'df Jassy, had fur
their objeCt to connea in one bond of onion the three'.
countries. BY.theCoovention entered into between.
Russia and Turkey, on March 21, 11100, the passage of
the Bosphorus, with troops, military stores, &c. was
reciprocally secured to each Power. 'When, theses.
fore, this Convention was violated on' the part of the -
'Ottoman Porte, was it necessary to point out the
policy► 'which • induced the. British GoVerntheut tc
maintain the.rights and interests of Russia unjestly
attacked) In doing so, the late Administrittien had
only followed up, the line of concha& pershed for n
long course of years by their predecessors, who had
thought' and Justly 'thought, that irwas the Molest
of Great Britain to support and eXtend herscon•s•
neaion with 'RuSsia. That the Government hos
mediately, preceding the last were' uneqeivo!eally of
:this opinion, was eridebt by the three docutheniS
, to' that effsa upon, the table. Thirty doeuments
:instead of three might have Wen laic( ,on the:
to prove tin* but, doubtless, it was conceived •
by his, -Majesty's present Ministers ?that those pro-,
dueed 'were amply sufficient. Passing over the de-
position of the Hospodars, the representations made
by Mr. Arbuthnot of the growing influence oC,
France in Turkey,E.ce. he ,wohld call the particular
''attisetion of The House to the Note from Sebastiani;
the French. Minister, which the Honourable Gen-
tleinao had said' appeared to him to contain meeh
Solid reasoning, arid nothing objectionable. Thet it
contained nothing objeaionnble to a French ear,. he
did not di obt,but that a Member oldie British- Parlithy:
mentshould express himself in such a manner wit h rem
.splea to it, was a circumstance that he eeofesed hi
'could not have believed had he not Witnessed it: This •
Note was foil of the violence and imolenee which
abounded in the numerous compositions .of French
diplomacy. The writer &dared that " if hi the
• difficult circumstances of the tinies, the Ottonetti
'Porte .did not•ferni the stecisian which her interests
.required, he should have ere long to lament her.
fate. " He stated that he had received sliest posh.,
. tive orders from the Emperors that " the Bosphorns
shoUld be shtit against all Rosslati ships,,ot war
and: ail Ressifin vessels carrying military stores, Sae,'`
and that at a time when Sebastiani mast ,
well known that Russia, had a rizht 'by Treaty to •
send what ships she pleased through the Beheihorns.
Inn succeeding paragraph of the Note it was ob-.
served, " That that passage could trot be opened to'
the Russians by the Turks withotit committing an
aft of hostility against France, and giving to Napo-
leon'the Great the right of Marchiug-ArOpps
.oVer
the territory of Turkey, that he might combat the:
Russians on the banks of the Vistula." Was all thii
uhobjettionable ? Then followed an intimation that.'
'a declaration of war by France would be the tomes'
(science, should the OttoioatoPorte turn a deaf ear ,
the representations of the French Minister. " Monis'
jest)' the Emperor," said he, 4.s hes a Mergearmy in.
Alaatia, assembled. there for the defence of rrixty
but unless all ambiguity is removed; arid the &n)7,-
,duet of the 0110111311 Porte proves that she is' not in-
'clieed to favour the cause of Russia' and England;,
that "Army will be used for the directly oppos4e pori-
pe;eT" an immediate and cetegorical answer was.'T-'
quired to this • demand. Having said so leech ,:ti'
this Note, he would now advert to the excellent
commentary upon it, contained in Lord
dispatches to Mr. Arbuthnot, of the 14th and eoth st.
' Novethbeir ; by which dispatches it ide4t be eisisoros
to the House, that the accesation preferred hy the
Hon. Gentleman Against the late government, ;est'
entertaining a hostile tetning towards Turkey, was,
groundless. In the. first of these dispatches, shoot
the t 4th of November,' Lord Howick directed that
every Oraaieal mode of amicable remoostranee
be used -for the purpose of endavouring to recall
the Ottoman 'Porte too better line of polieys.--:
Mr. Arbuthnot was instructed in that
,orspatcli
from Lord'Howick, to acquaint the Turkish Govern.'
tent, that'if they would let the Russian ships'pass;
all' appearance of hostility should cease an ,the part
' of Great Britain. The Right Hon. Gentleman tieri
proceeded to: that Mr. Arbuthnot had writ-
ten to Lord Collingwood and Lord Howick, statue'*
bow desirable it was to send a force. to the Dardanelles'
to support his rregociation with the Porte:
Louis had-in consequence been dispatched with three
sal Of the line by Lord Collinewood, sud the imel*
ligence of that 'proceeding' hati' been received in t!
country at the time whet' his Majesty's late' Mints.
ters were coosidering the propriety of senthng a na.:
vat force to that quarter. alley instantly'apprevest

ttc vilitt had been done by that gallint„ Admiral,
and measures %ere tal;cu for dispatming a larger
force 0 that servico;, had been
made on the nature of, that. tnrcit, but the., Houst.
would judge of its,"sullicieney from tht, statement t.f
114 r. Albuthnot On the pith of he ))ember, that it
was impossible fin'
.the. ports,:to7withdraw its Feet
to tcplace ofsafety. It watt the opinion of all the
itavat ,aen with whom he had conversed upon the

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aubp,a, that there would be .no difficulty in passing
the 'fttrd.siefle. He,asked, theretore, as this was a
new Expedition, wharcould the Government do but
t lie authentic information they could from
-professional persons and* others upon which to act.
' it was expected, too, that. #::istance would ,have
been afrortited by the Ru:sian Fleet ; and that.
such 'expectation was not ill founded was evident
fr,,in the circumstance of eight sail of the lirW'of
thpt fleet ha' joined Admiral Duckworth 4f,tiur
days after he had re-passed the Dardanelles, ier'the
avowed purpose of co-operating against 'the Turks.
As to' the delay that had been charged upon the

late Government in sending out a force, that was
not imputable to the Councils of his Majesty's
tili-
-ItiSters. On the 9th day ef 'November .t hey received
the information whieh led then to send out that
naval fOrce, and on the 22d of that month, six sail
of the line were completely equipped for the re-
intiireement of Lot d Colliogwood's fleet, though,
untintrinately, irons the state of the weather, they
could oot 'soil for six weeks. As to the employment
of troops, the question. was, whether any could
have been sent out in time to accomphsh ,the
()him -in view, namely, to attack the Castle of
the Dardanelles, before they should be able to place
themselves' in a state of defence. Mr. Arbuth-
not represented the works as: in a slate of pro-_
gressise and daily improvement on the whole line
of the Bosphorus and as the application for,
trortps should come through Lord CollingwOod,
(Ai' Cadiz; to . Country, it would have been
the‘ middle of Aped 'before the troops could have
arrived at their destination, when the works would
}dive been completely secured 'against attack. No
man, whom he bad consulted, either before, or
pr Ming, or since, the lixpedition, was of opinion,
that .any tn.), ps were necessary for passing the
dandles. It V.. 35, a desperate service to attack a:bat-
, ter.y, but the bravery, of the BritiS m h seamenwade
th gal de:pie the danger of passing, batteries. 13tit
,*vv•reri Geutlemers talked:of troops, did they mean :
11 A an army of 60,000 oleo, or only a detachment
t. or Loon, should have been employed on the 0c.7
C 44011. The former could not be spared, and it
would have beeo imprudent and unavailing to risk
tho'latter in an opaation within fifty miles of Cott-.
ataiitinople, where 200,000,,n0t men, Out soldiers,
were collected to be'rrearehed.against the Ilikbialis•
,Fleense then' to the Reaolution respeaing the.F,x7.
?edition to Alexanchia, tied if _lie
.14 not heard the
stunner in whicar the Hon, Gentleman had brought
that io;;ward'as a matter of charge against the hoe
Government, he vauld have supposed that his obted
was to round upon 'it a censure of the present MI.
sinters. `lnere were upon the tat* the instructions
sett out by Lord Howiek toGrneral Fox, direding-
thiq he 4botild not give orders, for the embark.atiots
. ;the troops till, rite actual comtnencernent of hos.;
tilittes;A ith the Porte ; and Sir .John Duckworth
was instrueted to' dispatch itumedt.nely, Upon that
event takiog place, a last salting vessel with the in-
Oigeoee to Geneial, Fox, in order that lie should,
upon receiving it, make the,neceoary atrangerneots
for the embarkation of the' troops. The object Of
this Expedition was the captured Alexaodria, and.;
nut the conqsfest.of Egypt. It was intended to se- .
cure Alexandria, and consequently Egypt, from. fall, ,
ing again into the hands of .the French, and
.for
affording' proteetion and encouragement to any party
there. may be' in the country favourably disposed to
the British interest. Tue capture Of Aleicaudria was
therefore im 44, of etredual warfare, But' was it
meant to be said
en or implied that because theExpedi-
!ion against Rosetta had be unfortunate, that was
to be charged upon, the planners of the Expedition,
which had beets successful ? He did not mean to, go'
more minutely into this case than'was absolutely ne-
cessary, .and lire sboeld'regulate wbat he had to say
Upon it, with all the delicacy that was due, to the
Officers of the army. He must, however, say,
Oat the keeping of. Alexandria, or the final evacua-
tion'Ofthateity, tvas not affeCted (lie difficulty
of, proofing provisions, whiten( the. possession of
Rosetta. 'lie lid no official doeutheots upon this
question, but he had the authority of the most re-
spectahle pavel and military men ,who laid served
t Jere, to say, that so far trans Alexandria having
beets in want of provisions, rice and corn were at
tiss ed to be exported to the Greek. Islands in the
toenths of June, July, August, up to 'the period
of the Cvacubion: And this exportation was allow-'
• e 4, Atter reserving one year's rice and. six mouths
' xheat fur the, inhabitants,•as,well as six months pro!,;.;
visions for the army!, Besides, with the great naval
ferret'. we had along.. the coast of ggypt,. we might
,ql;tylied Alexandria from the Greek Islaods,
even t nough all supply front the interior was cut °tr..,
If a,.y. hlalne was imputable, it was to the present,
Mink :IS, who had given up Alexan4rite at a,
time the}', were endeavouring to open a negoetation.
with the Porte; in which the evacuation of that Cu)
might na.e been loOked upon as.a concession to
fluetre t e; Porte. its our favour, and ,witlidrew that
snorerthe itillueoce of
.Ih;illetrt, It might be
said, peri,apg, that, the city, had been . evacuated, in
order to set free that portion of our military force
wh ch tertnedits garrison ; and if they had been em-
ployed in any profitable operativh. since, that might,'
be a jeitifieation, litit•they arrived at Syracuse from
Alexandria, on the !'.1..5,h or Novenabtr,,at,,Gibraltar,
and on the :.sth of Deeember, in England,,,where,
they found that eight days 'before. 10,00 u troops had
•
England to look at Ceuta lie wished it had
been to 'look into it. The 'Right Hot'. Gentleman
then briefly recapiltilated the points which he bad
el“leavOured to ';.establish, and concluded by assert-
. ing, blest OpOn.“ review of
the Vipers on the table referred, there wasnot 0110,
act ,A bieo he would not again resat to • under the

CUTIe cireurnisauce,.
Mr. Secretaty CANNING had listened with• great
attention to the statement which the Right Hop,
Gentlethan bad made in defence of hituselt and his,
cf/littni.lt2d, and could nut help,being surpriied at the
tu.naner in which he had kept to the declaration

which he mtde at the outset, that he-would discard
front his mind every.idea of : juetitication by. recri on-
. nation. The Right Hon. Gentlemen had very pro-
s, perly in his divisiou•of the questiotr; considered • it in
a political and, military' view, the fermer.of which he.
had , defended by the eeamele of the. .predecessors of
the late i\lieisiers, and the latter he had vindicated
by a comparison, with the-measures of their succes-
sor*. •:-:He did not, however; Meall to impute any
blame to the Right lion. Gentleman, fur having de.
parted front the declaration with which he had set
out. The Right HZant Gentleman was undoubtedly
warranted in: his wish to hear the opinion of
:some
of his Mojesty'e.Ministere upon ;this subjefief The
Right 'Hon. Gentleman lad justified.. :his- .own and:.
his collieigues.conduct inwards the Torte upon sub-
sisting, treaties, and particularly that of the Triple
Alliance, and 'spun, these he. grounded tie right of
interference by An armed mediation. If any Gentle-
twin would but look Into the Treaty itself, he .would
perceive that ,the argument of.the. Right lien Getz-
tleman could not be. sustained. The Ti iple Alliance
Treaty bad been concluded in •1798, and bad:refer-
ence to the situation and existing circumstances of
the Cofitrading .Parties, alletepially at wet with
France at that period, The Treaty had' in it a sti-
pulation, limiting its operation to eight years, after
which it was -to undergo a revision, and such altera-
tion aseberespeEtive circumstances of the difkrent
countries might then render necessary ; and that the
Treaty had been understood, even in _this country,.
lo.liave, reference to tbe existing situation of the '
Contracting Parties, he believed that:proofs .were,oot
wanting. The Preamble ofAhe Treaty expressly
stated these circumstances to .which it applied, .and
could the Right Hon. ,Gentleman mean •to 'assert,
bat a Treaty, negociated with a view to existing
hostilities, in which all thepartica were engaged, and
followed, not, by a joint peace, but •by separate peci-
fications of each ,W these parties, must necehsmliy
survive ? • or. did he mean to say, that had it tei on-
, noted witle.the war, it was necessarily to be reeked
on the renewal of supther war into which any of..
the parties might afterwards enter ? If that were
hie view, it. was contradkted by the I.Cls, because •
that, had not ,been the understanding of any Qt ifie
parties, nor had the Treaty ever been so acted nem.
Great Britain, renewed the. war widi France in 1803 ;,
but did Russia or did Terkey then gO to war.l. The .
Right Hon. Gentlemae said, that the Treaty conti-
nued. during the peace ; but had great Britain called •
upon either Russia or the Porte to join her in the
war ?
.. Did ;the Rieht Hon. Geetleman. theiefore
mean to say, that this Treaty, so. 011cl:tided, with
reference fu .existing circumstances, sunk under
the peece, and rose again,' not at once, but .at
three different timese'and in three dill rent parts r
-:---If they looked into' the • body of the Treaty;
they would, tied no better support for the argument:
of the Right Honourable Geptleman. The Treaty •
,comoineda stipulation guaranteeing the ititegeity, of.
:the Turkish dominions as they wete previous to the ~
iinvasien of Egypt by the French. On this Treaty.
the, late Ministers justified their. Measures for the,
.censereation of. Egypt .by the captive of Alexandria: '
He would not deny that there 'might -be cases,, in
which it would be justifiable to make' war upon a
l'o•eer that was-in .alliance before. He would not
pretend to den► that we might have tiad a right to.
c4ll von) TurkeY to fulfil the defensive alliance with
us, but, then ,after the lapses and laches which had
taken place, we had no right tifcall upon this Power
for the fu!filco of .that Treaty. The Right Hon..
Ceentlemen lad asserted that the.refusal of the pas.,
,sege of tic Dardanelles to the Russians bad given
this (,:oiliery a right to aisome.an armed mediation;
but as, the pitsagu was given by a subsequent con-
vention, to which this Country was not a party, we
bad no right, in virtue of an anterior -Treaty, to in-
hiSt upon the fulfilment of that convention to:which
we were not a party. At least no
.writer upon the
Laws-of Nations that he had ever heard .of; laid
deweesuch.a doCtrine. He admitted that the late
Ministers had sliewrt a disposition to conciliate
Russia. But however desirable, it might be to make
kussia'believe that we did_ not suspect berdesign up..
on the Porte, we should'eot precipitate ourselves in-
to heetilidee with Turkey, so coann'ei,eed%..and b 0
conducted as the war had been begun and L•onducted
by the late Ministers. When we did interfere; it
()aglitter have been douse in a manner that e ould not
have , given the Porte teason to susped the sincerity.
•of our eiews, nor to Russia a right to4cbarge m wit ti:
not
.havine interfered , as we ought ; and she musl
have expelied we should not ;commence are inter-
fetence by an Expeditiou fer our own advantage. He
liad no been in the' Honse when the Right Hop.
Gentleman began his speech, but he understood the
Honourable. Gentleman to. have said, that no demand
had been made by RusNia for 'troops ; but he could
assure that Right Honourable,Gentleman that
,a de-
mac d had-been transmitted front St. Petersburgh for
a t onsiderable body of troops, so that this was not,
so novel a part of the question as'. time Right Hod.
Gentleman represented. The Right. Hotieuranle
Gentleman had Commented Upon a note of M. Se-
bastiani, and the dispatches of Laird, Howick. He
could not be suspecied of being partial 'to 'the pre-
.duaioes, of the Enemy, but certainly no one could
'lead Lord kibwiek's dispatch without perceiving that
lie went_ great lengths to dire& an armed interference
tai defeat the asceudancy' of French ,•Ccetucila at the.
'Poitc. Notwithstanding the declaration of the Right '
Flonourahle Gentleman, :that -he would 'abstain
fleet) rtrirnination, he had upon this, as had
been invariably done upon every, other occasion
when this matter was mentioned in that House,.
Made it the atoned of condetimation egaiest the
present Government. The. interference, at t:open-
liageu was nut more decisive in principle than this
was. Here a force was sent tohombard the Capital,
not of a neutral,-but of A triple ally, to burn the car
-pleat 'of A POwer whom 'we have taken an oath to.
protect.. If you wish for war, enter into a defensive
alliance ; if you Want to strip a Power of a part of its
territories, enter into a stipulatiOn toguararatee the
,filiegrity of its possessions. Here was CopetAagenjes-
: tilled; in this had the present Ministersiteacquittal
from all the charges that had been made upon ,them
yitltrespet.l to that Expedition- It they could only
be tripe So lay Upon the table a copy or a: Treaty of
Defenaiv'e Alliz.tri-Ce with Denmark, the cases. would
be Perallel, except ' that the Danish Expedition was
in owned Oitli success, whilst she other was attended
With defeat and disgrace, the calculation of the pro-

portion between: the means 10 the ,end beng.-ftiet
as only to secure discomfiture. The _Right Ho-
nourable Seeml;try then proceeded tp quote ,se-
veral pas Sages from Lord Howiek's dispatches,
to spew that _the ,dottrines they containede%attly
corresponded. with Elio principles upon w
the Danish, Expedition tract been so justly unde,r7
taken, and so successfully executed. It. was-
itupossible„that the Turkish Fleet, passing the Dar-
danelles and the Streights of Gibraltar, should at-
tack any of the British possessions. On the con-
miry, the Danish fleetinight., if once launched with
an hostile view, be on our shores without a moment's
notice. Aq intervention.. to, procure., by/ pacific
wails, the. arrangementjesired
,by. Russia, :he did
oyi condemn ; hut to interfere first by menace, and.
afterwards by violence--violence inadequate and.un-
''successful—was what he did:..condemn. It was
known that the p isstum` of the, Dardanelles would be
regarded as an•act of hostility-;, at least it was quite
as natural to suppose that the approach to Copenha-
gen, the landing of troops, and the investment of
that capital, would he received without:resistance,
•cir without'a feeling of hostility, as that • t hepassage
of the Dardanelles, and the appearance befirre Con-
start inoPle, in a hostile attitude,.would be viewed by:
the Turks with calmness and indifference. But the
estimate of the strength of . the CAles, and the ap-
pointMeni of the British 'Force, sheaved clearly, that
them was an idea that the, oWqt: of the Expedition -
was likely to,be considCred as hostile; area to be met
with . resistance. But it was said the Expedition ap-
peared before 'Constantinople purely thr Russian ob-
yds.' The restoration of tire Hospodars as,allus-
sian object. But how was it demanded by the Bri-
tish Commander ; with the alternative of giving
up the Turkish Fleet ? If the Fleet had been given
up, cOtild the restoration of the Hospodars be still
insisted opal ; and it it was IPA insisted upon, and
the British Force came off' ,with the Turkish Fleet
in pocket, what would b,..coine of our attention to,.
the interests of Russia ? Thus Much as to .the jus- •
tice 'of the Expedition. Now,as to the policy. He •
contend that the Russians
,ought, to have been
indneed by all means ,tp
.concentratetheic whole
force against the most poWerful and dangerous Ene-
my, Buonaparte, ,and not to haveweakened.itself 1
byunprOfitable schemes upon Turkey.. That ought
to have beenour policy also. Then, ,as to the force,
the inadequacy of it was such, that if Sir T. Lewis
had not, come away as expeditiously he4had done,
his passage would have, been totally
,cut,. off. The
necessity of having a body, of troops was also laid
down by the Naval Commanders. It was -Aced
what the troops could have done. They could have ,
taken and held Lestos Castle, which was unable and ,
important. They might have taken
,the Castle of
Abydos, and destroyed it. These ..towers did great
damage to the.lititishShips in their return ; and the
Admiral said,, that if another week had been .
ed toprepare the defence, the Squadron could not..j
p.ossihly .have
,returned It was asked, what could:
five or six thousand British troops have dOne,, when.
Constantinople had 200,00 u men of military age
. among its inhabitants.?. They might five. destroy,
ed. the Castle of .41E;iyilos by a col,p de main;
,and .
they, Might have, held Alw,.,Castip of Lestos,..,Where'
the 200,000 men from. t;opstanthrople could not
have ~grat. at them. 'But the , troops were sent to.
A.lexandia 'to commit a double breach of alliatiee„
and toinearadouble failure. He did trot think
.:5900
men could achieve miracles, he'wetald,hardly con-.
ceive that .50.60 men could open
,a comouttlicatiFin,
from to BUetiosAyteS,' over the)ligltest and
most imprat'licable mountaios in the world ; .bot
did
_think they Might have,de;itroy,edone small Cas7
tle by a coup de main, and taken and held anotlier,
•in which .nottaph could .1111ve hart treid,...,:on. them.
He again insisted.on the insufficiency of thegrounds.
of the Expedition, in point otjustice awl. policy, the.
inadequacy of the .force employed,
.and,tlie madness
of not:Setfiling a milli:try tirtce.,to, secure a reireat.--7,
The retorn of the tenons Aent.to,.,Mexanoria set free'
a part. of the force in Sicily, _which- sivas. brought to
Gibraltar with
,a view to co•operate se:Airing the
ret.re,at of the Royql fe'prntlypt Poring* fro,tnLy,
bon; but that obj,q`it
.was)nippily
the .necessity 'of employing 4feor,leir.
himself and his colleagues from takauga forward
part iii this discussion. 'He did:not See wbAt:
cal benefit sould result from a censure on p.nF0.1,3
who w etc Ito longer in his.Majesty's'Contnils; and.!
he thought it would Le injorious to have on
Journals a Resolution retlytting outhe honour of,the
Country. lt,a vote of censure was prOppli,e4 pgailjbki
Ministers in office, supposed to have apisepodue4r4,
thetnselves,, time pass•ng of the Resolotion may. lead
to the retnoyal of those 11'iiuisters. No racAlcat
object being lit:ely to be answered byftbe present
motion, and the: injurious and unpleasant aise-
quencea he had , adverted to' being likely ~to.arise
from the reu ording of such 'Resolutions on. the)our-,
'mils, he thought heshould best do Insritaty‘by, mov-
ing the Order of the. Day.: .

Mr., WINDHAM contended, that the observationts
urged by. the Right lion. Secittarx of -State' hxtt
made no impreisiun whatever. on that impenetrable
ch.iin. of sargumout which his Right Hon. :Friend
(Mr. T.. Grenville) had laid down. The Hight Hon,
Secretary and his Friends•conccivvd every thidg-in
the spirit of recrimination, and came forward with
scarcely any other argument than 'the arernantlift
ad 407/li/44/...-.1)01 an attack upon the• ails' of others
was surely no justification for their own. Much had
been said oithe impolicy.,of forcing Turkey into a
war whatevet•Anight be the: policy of such A rnea.
sure; it never was, the intention of the-late.Admi-
ni4tration to force Turkey into hostility, although
the very anxiety to preserve peace might be the Cause
of exciting, hostility.. As. to Alm- necessity and eat/
ploynwut of a military forewthe success of the 're-
sult depended wholly upon the. time, whets that
force could have been employed: That moment
Qoce elapsed,. and :the moment had never been
foreseen, the operation of a military force would
have been wholly ineffedual, and to no purpose
Whatever.

•
0310q0),WOOD was sorry the Right Hon-Secre-
tary should have moved thOrderof the. Pay,. as he
thought the;re were sufficient grounds to ystyport the
original question, which' in his t.)piliut), it was, per-
fatly .eau to .shetv, The honourable Member
then proceeded to enter iuro his argument,' .but
the noise and interruption which proaiied during

the speech, trade` i 'impogsible to e'-oiliatlatik in C
his reasoning.
Eirfd gehentl cry of " questi6n quettion
arose, but
Mr. TAYLOR Was heard in reply, whim he inmate.'
that whoever wits Minister,- it 'was the. duty of
every. iticlitierident MeMber'laf that-House.to,st-e-tlult
the resources of the country were not Misophed,
tra
In the car before the- linnVe; hi would still con-
trnatbat the re4ttittes of the'Country had not beets
prc*etly exerted'; and on that ground alone had he
brodght forward the present notion. •In so doing
he. felr he dyad .pertbrined,,Wthity ; .and atter-the
amendment moved by the Right:l3bn. SecrelarYl
he should Agit: pittsia di risibnAlporr the
had moved:. - •
The trlestion was then put upon' Mr. CA:C.:Wet
amendment, and agreed w without a division.
The HOdaenext proceeded to dispose of the other
Orders of the Day, when Mr•qp. PoNsottimobserv-.'
iug nponstfif. Oktreme impOrtatice Bait urgent tines!
sity- of proceeding as early- as possible in the clues-
tiOn respecting the Distilleries,. requested- the kfr'n'''
Gentleman (Mr. Lushington), who had a rtmtiotv:
to bring forvea'id on Monday next,' would have-tom
goodness to defer itfor a day or two, la order • to'
make way for'the early consideration , of a .tteaiintel
which 'could not be delayed Without giving. -rise 40,
the must taiwhievoug spectiifations.
The proposition gave room to some converlationi
in'-which the CHANOI,LOn of the ExcutAittAri,. Mr.
I.ONO, Air. HUSKISSON, Mri.nstriv, mid' Al'
miral ji A aVev, took apart, vttcr which - Mr.
UGTON deterred his _motion till-Tuesday;
'The question reslieCting the. Drqiilitries was thee
determined to be brought forward Oa Monday, eadl,
ri..-tr.LUSHINGTOteS utt -Tuesday; but on an unOrt,„
standing that it shdhuld come on after the Caro&
Question:—Adjourned at Three o'clock.
•

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Lord MULGRAVE. hag lately received as a preStrgas
frdm India -a beautiful write; 'Which weighs upward'
of .500,1bs:And which has laid front 10 to 13
a day since its:arriVal at the Adinirdty.
Grain appears to be felting. in 'price in Scotland.,'
llt Fladdington Market, on Friday last, Wheat wn.'
one shilling 'andsixpence per boll Cheaper than otl.,
the preceding market day. • •
The new State Lottery, that- is to commend':
Drawing on the 28th of next, month, June, 14'.
sents objets tti attra& advenurers beyond any for- ,
mer Lottery, haing Six Prizes. of -11‘i Witty Thousand
Pounds, various oilier capitals, and only Tive!To,
five Thousand Tickets. Those- persons whoselaak7 ,
leads thrill to choctse and selea particular Nuinkiers
for their adventure, should make eat!), lipplicariat
to prevent being disappointed. This, PATIS
of the Lottery business, are particularly intently(' Ph
by BICHARDSON. GOODLOM, tlnireo.,'Stoek•brr-
kers, Bank. Cot-tit:id, and facttig- the Uale
of the King's Me,,vs;:Charing

fl/027-1/... ,i. , ..
_, On the toh inst. in Saville place, Clift-n, tli LAY °ll'
Chtles Call-yid, 41. Cal'yt,iii iii •tlio ltual 6i:olio-gala.,
Riigintent of Militia, of a S' nn

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111.4 R R •
Yesterdav, at .M.tr,.lc.'oone Church, by;sPec.!ll 11';
cenc.l, Lora Viscount Pritproe,, tckctcst .5,11 of tit" it •r; oft
RdsiberYt to • M's .fiarrlet.-rrouva',4 clat/e;iitcf of rigs,
Hon. Jtartifuldindwßootti.rie: ' •
On Saturday., Utst, at. Ftlt!ibtuvil, I.i..utcoant-Gtostsl'
Campbell, of rochnel I, to Miiis Autuaa, Morro% , votolgltt
tlztigliter of tlie'late Sit %Valiant Momly, Bart. orMiitor-
,
c)n ur;l:►t last, at is.lington, Kcyset,, Esq.,
t!:•Lci:_a ;gnaw. to Mi -a m.dat.!,;:):ur of Abraha
01'
Jin the 16tithist . at Spriti6ol,l-1.1,i,,t. near I)ottstfaS,"4l,_
Ni4rth,PtitAini,johrt Hoftltwick Esq,,l3.Hiker.
Etlinkurit4, to Nilo Mary Ann, sttco;oitl.tuglitta.ot• t!ic late;
lettn Cayentrk, Pooats:
(in T iiegenty.ast, at Colesiiit4 Witt.vicksitire, Rlc"4"
Tooth, Esti. M.A.Ni•. Fellqw!of Trinity College, Cambriitr.,
tt;,Powell;ntity, tlaughterot Robert Esti, C"11.1"
fair. io the Waitvicki,tit.fr • ,
•On l'buraday,. at' Mary.tc. bone Church. •Altt)00"4`1 , •
Esq. ot, tipper 4Viimpolt' strtntt, to, CJll‘et"—,_F
Young:it tiAtttKti.ker the la:Ckev. of
peter, Pembrukedlite.

, .
MN!)
, .
-On Thursday the tzth inst.. at .his .house in kustitari2ff''
14,1r.nitti Stuart, of h ineo.latie. Conlinll.
chi Saturday ta3t, the int vt (13:ItItter of George 1.-Leih.
Egi. of )Ugh Legh;lit Olt,: Co;iiii.v oltlit!ster.
(Jo the 9th inst. at D,44iee, Cantaiftk Laws:Aix 13r4V'siv
Lte of the Prin,c,is Iy:ii !:eve,,,,e Outer.
04 theta nte day, sudden! , ;tt the G ei.,rgo Inn; Altlerill2g',
bury,. lolut Spent, or lt.,,y6tott, Itottmonscr, Ont Of tii*Trl'''
pie ‘allot Quakers, aged is. • ,
()it moslday last, at her house in Clucester.place, ;t,
Elizabeth Cocks, sister to the late, , and•atino to the-pre-WI"
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}'RICE O!
YIST

,V Tder.s

RDAY.
India gtilCht 17a'1,' 4 ,
'lo(aillopets zo. 4*. V. '
Exchitler,i;iii3, is OS• Pfr.'
imperiai 3 per Cent 6611- i
Cons. L:4201'11)34 OS i Of'
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