The Sun.
London, England, 1839-03-04 00:00:00

SECOND EDITION.

SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock.

METROPOLITAN POLITICAL

SUMMARY.

The Courier of this evening, adverting to Lord
Brougham's opinion that the Judges of the Admiralty
ought not to be allowed to sit in the Commons, says,
" Upon the truth that Judges should not mix thernselvf a
in party politics has been founded the fallacy that they
ought not to sit in Legislation—that is to say, they are
d.ingeroua if elected by the people, harmless if selected
by the Crown ! Now, it appears to as, that if the House
of Commons (Ices really represent the nation, the whole
doctrine of exclusion should be abolished, even as to the
Puisnc Judges of the Superior Courts, and a fortiori as
to all others, who do not exercise functions likely to
involve them in party questions. That Judges might
be tempted to seek popularity will be the obvious objc c-
tion—to us it seems less dangerous that they should
conciliate the people than that they should truckle to
the Throne. We would rather that they glanced at the
hustings than at the Peerage." In another leading
article, the Courier quotes a letter from a Hanoverian
Correspondent, the object of which is to show that the
King of Hanover's quarrels with his subjects, is every
day assuming a more serious character.

The Globe, in a leading article suggested by the re-
ma; ks in the Times of this morning upon Irish rail-
re3ds, observes, " For our own part, when we aro told
of the successful results of unaided enterprise, and of
th,e problematical results of Government interference in
these works, we know not how to reply, except by r::-
questing those Paganini- performers, who entertain us so
constantly on this one string, to pay some little atten-
tion to the facts already known on the subject. Are the
results of unaided enterprise so completely successful ?
Are the results of Government interference so entirely
speculative ? We really think that any person who ex-
amines impartially the comparative statistics of English,
American, and Belgian railways, will not hesitate for a
moment to award the palm of superiority—in every
country not actually overflowing with capital—to the
system of state proprietorship and superintendence of
these undertakings."
The Standard contains an angry article on the subject
of Lord Ebrington's appointment, in the course of which
he observes " his Lordship was a Member of Mr.
O'Connell's rebel association—of that association de-
nounced and prosecuted by the Reform Ministers of
Wiiiiam the Fourth. His apology for his connection
the rebel body was that it preserved the peace of
I, lane—and a very excellent apology too.

THE MANCHESTER ANTI-CORN
LAW DELEGATES AND THE CHARTISTS.

Manchester, Saturday.
Very erroneous and exaggerated accounts have been
pub!ished of the riotous proceedings at the meeting of
the Delegates here, on Thursday last. As the terms of
the advertisements, calling the meeting, merely in-
vited the members of the Association, and the trades
who had signed the petition to be present, no idea
vas entertained of any body attending for the
purpose of getting up a row. About 150 or 200 of

ens of the population were, however, got together

by a lase ruffian (supposed to be in the -pay of the
Tories), and they took possession of the front
of the room, nearest to the platform, in a compact
body, before any other persons assembled. From
this gang of desperadoes, all the disturbance originated.
They had evidently been drilled to act in concert, for
at a signal from their leader, who was himself inflamed
,with liquor, they jumped upon the seats, and threw up
!I both hands, waving their hats at the same time, to give
themselves the appearance of a greater force, by hiding
the view of those beyond them. The body of the company
remained passive, waiting the adoption of some vigorous
course by the Chairman. But after consultinc, with those
around him, on the platform, he thought it better to put
up with the annoyance, than to resort to the unpopular
course of calling in the police. The result of this was to
give confidence to the ruffians, who were now joined
by the stragglers of their party that forced their say to
them from different parts of the room, and tit com-
menced an attack upon the gentlemen of the p' .tform,
several of whom being members of the Soe..:ty of
Friends, and other religious bodies, they at once fetired
into a back room, for fear of a most serious hr.' ich of
the peace.
The intruders having thus gained possession of the
platform, now commenced their mummery. 'I le au-
dience had by this time undergone some chat e, the
respectable portion having left, and the room bee: reple-
nished from the street. Still the Chartists were co.sily re-
ceived. Indeed their speeches were unusually d and
the matter so threadbare, that- at last the company
got into groups, and took no notice of the orator,. At
the close of the proceedings, when the besotted fellow
in the chair proposed a vote of thanks to the " Con-
vention," very few hands were held up, and a cry was
raised for him to put the contrary, which he refused
to do.

After the meeting broke up the working-men got
together in groups in the streets, and loudly condemned
the disgraceful proceeding. " Here's an argument for
Universal Suffrage!" exclaimed a man in a fustian coat ;
whose companion, apparently a shoe-maker, replied
" It's all in favour of a Rural Police." " This will be
meat and drink for the Tories," cried a third.
Since the meeting the Anti-Corn-law Association ,

have received communications from many of the trades,
as well as from some of the Chartists, disavowing iind
condemning the conduct of the wretches who assaulted
peaceable citizens in the exercise of their right to dis-
cuss their grievances ; and many of the working men
will be present at the adjourned meeting, which is called
for Thursday ; and it is thought by most persons that
the interrupting: party is almost annihilated by the in-
sane exhibition lately made.

NATIONAL CONVENTION.

WorTri,g in the Chait
After reading and confirrnii
day's proceedings, the Secret
rent, as follows:

Log the proceedings of the lasi
Mary announced the receipt; 01

Ketteritig £s 0 0
2,Janfichl
n iury
Dundee-
Drybrook, &c.
Haritnal
Lrieestor
Mr-sthyr Tydvil l5 0 0
Mr. Washington
DELAY OF THE CONSIDERATION 0
ULTERIOR MEASURES.

Nottingham . 7 G 0
New Radford ...... I 0 0
Arnold
New and Old Berk-

ford 5 0 0
Totness
(Yorkshire Rsdical
Hilsley.

resolution of the London democratus passed at a public
meeting on Thursday last, which went to censure the Con-
vention for the great delay that was occurring in their
going to propose ulterior measures, was handed in and
read, upon which
Mr. RICHARDSON rose to propose that it be not reeeivA.
Tie deprecated the interference of any persons in their de-
hb:rations, when it was perfectly understood by the country
at urge that a former resolution of their body went co
postpone the consideration of what measures should be
at.lt:pteci by the Convention, in case their petition
sliould be rejected. Were not they the collective wisdom
of tne nation ? Is it not, therefore, betted. the consideration
of ulterior measures should be under their consideration.
Ttiere arc avternblies which had not the s,une cppoetun;ty
of judging of their pradcnce—( Hear, hear)—as they had.
If t.tey looked at their book, it will be there seen that ul-
teror measures had not bet-n omitted in their deliberations,
there it will be found, that in case their petition should
rejected, they would communioate with their constitu-
-33 to wbat they i.hould do. He was surprised to EA
',rise of the extreme right were now becoming rno e
zhan were those of the extreme left.--( Hear.) He is as
convinced that a junta had been formed in that Association
for purpose which was pre judicial to the interests -)f
That this junta was formed without unworthy
rte admitted; but he, at the same time, should say,
if these motives were ever so pure, still, from the ine-
„rucknt tendency of their effects, they should not be adopted
by the Convention.

v-a), G r;

people,

Tho CHAIRMAN here said, that as it was a question re-
gardiD4 the Convention, he hoped Mr. Richardson would
not enter into anything personal.
Dr. TAYLOR seconded Mr. Richardson's motion, that ate
resolution should not be entered on the minutes of the prc-

ceedings.
In answer to the observation of a member Mr. Richard.
son said be was prepared to show there was a junta of
some three or four members. He had notice of that bejore
he left Manchester—( Hear, hear)—and only that he
wished to preserve that unanimity with which they had
hitherto acted he would have brought this subject before
this time under their consideration.—( Hear, hear.) He
IVU3 sure that this junta had ulterior measures in con-
templation, and from his experience be must say, that the
time was not arrived when those measures should be
adopted.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. MARSDEN defended the conduct of himself and those
gentlemen who were present at the meeting of the working
daises called by the Democratic Association, in proposing
and seconding the resolutions complained of.
Dr. WADK said he regretted that any attempt should
now be made to disturb the unanimity which had hitherto
prevailed among them. He was not a physical force man,
because he was perfectly convinced that in moral force
there were ingredients enough to procure them the remedy
of the evils complained of.--( Hear, hear.) It was to moral
force that Liberty was indebted for her best defence against
her enemies.

Dr. FLETCHER said that he did not intend to enter into
any discussion with the Rev. Doctor on the question of
moral or physical force ; but he must say that it was ne-
cessary that the Government should be apprised that the
country was in that state of distress and suffering that the
consideration of ulterior measures was now a subject of
deep thought among the people.—(Hear.)
Mr. FROST recommended the utmost consideration on a
question which involved the personal conduct of four of
their members.—( Hear. )
Mr. MILLS—In contradiction to the assertion of those
members who said, " That the Northern Unions were
clnite impotent." He knew these people well, and be
said, from that knowledge, they bad the most implicit
confiderce tin their measures.—( Hear, hear.) He was
inot
~ surprised at these resolutions having been passed
LI the memberssfmna of the Democratic Association, when be
ohfea!Tde, quarter that con uot be doubted, that one
wouldsoon
eomembers told him that un►es 44: Convention
kl on come out, he himself had resolved to lee, the
people on. —( Hear, hear.) He said the new-born zeal i