The Sun.
London, England, 1863-12-09 00:00:00

TZE CRAWLEY COURT-MARTIAL.

(FROM OCR OWN REPORTER.)
SEVENTEENTH .DAY.
[The following appeared in the Third Edition of " Thc
Suu" of last evening] :

ALDERSHOT, Tuesday Morning.
The Court reassembled at 25 minutes to 1 t
Surgeon Gavin A. Turnbull, of the Gth Dragoons, was
recalled, and examined by the court.
The Court—What was the practice in the Gth Dragoons
regarding prisoners taking exercise ?The practice' was
that they were recommended by the surgeon of the regi-
ment to the commanding officer, and they got the exercise
recommended.
You stated in your cross-examination that you had fre-
quently seen Sergeant Major Lilley during his arrest. You
also state that you never visited Sergeant Major 'Ailey in
his first quarters. How do you reconcile these two state-
metals saw him frequently between the date of hisrem oval from his first quarters and the day of his death.
How often before the 18th May F—l cannot exactly state
how often. I cannot remember.

You have stated that in the first instance you refused to
make any additional report on the post mortem examina-
tion of Sergeant Major Lilley, and that you afterwards did
so on the information received from Colonel Crawley, and
the report made to you by Assistant-Surgeon Barnett,
Be good enough to state the exact words used by Assistant
Surgeon Barnett when conveying to you the information he
received on which your addendum was founded ?—As far
as I remember, Assistant Surgeon Barnett stated to me,
when I requested him to make the inquiry about the brandy
that he believed a considerable quantity had been consumed.
Those were the words Assistant Surgeon Barnett used at
that time.

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Were any of those cases quite suddenc,asuasonefdp
without any particular predisposing
cases were sudden, but they must all have had some
of the
posing cause to produce them. some predis-
At what hour did you receive information of Sergeant
Major Lilley's sudden attack of illness ?—I never
received
any intimation whatever that he was ill.
By the prisoner (through the Court)----Why did you state
in your addendum to your report that on inquiry you found
the statement to be correct that the deceased was in the
habit of drinking a considerable quantity of brandy daily
during the arrest? How did you learn that the quantity
was considerable, and that it was consumed daily by se,_
geant Major Lilley during the period of the arrest ?—As I
have already stated, on the assertion that Colonel Crawley
had made to me, and the report made to me by Assistant
Surgeon Barnett. With regard to the term " considetable
quantity," our opinion was that if such quantity had been
taken to Sergeant Major Lilley's bungalow, he must have
consumed a considerable quantity, But at the same time
both Mr. Barnett and I overlooked the fact that Mrs.
Lilley was consuming a considerable quantity.
The President—Never mind Mrs. Lilley. On what du
you found your conviction that the sergeant major drank a
considerable quantity:of brandy daily?—On the assettion
made to me by Colonel Crawley and the report of Assistant
Surgeon Barnett.
By the prisoner (through the Court)—Did Assistant
Surgeon Barnett tell you that the consumption of brandy
by deceased was daily as well as considerable f—As far as
I remember, he did.
Mr. Oliver Barnett, assistant surgeon of the 6th Dragoons,
was called for examination by the Cout t.
The Court—Are four or five glasses of brandy a day a
usual medical comfort for a woman in a consumption during
the hot season at Mhow ?—I consider that in the case of
Mrs. Lilley, who was suffering from extreme exhaustion,
that four or five glasses of brandy a day was not a consider-
able quantity for her to take, especially as the great irrita-
bility of her stomach and bowels did not enable her to take
solid food or nutritious broths.
You have stated your conversation with Colonel Crawley
regarding the brandy supposed to have been consumed by
Sergeant Major Lilley. What caused you to return to him
again and ask if he wished you to make any addition to your
report in the sergeant major's case f—As the commanding
officer had brought the fact to my notice, I deemed it my
duty to represent it to Dr. Turnbull.
At what hour did Colonel Crawley speak to you, and at
what time did you first communicate with Dr. Turnbull?—
Colonel Crawley first spoke to me about 5 o'clock in the
morning. We remained on parade until about half-pmt
seven, and about eight o'clock I communicated the subject
of the conversation to Dr. Turnbull.
Report as nearly as possible the words in which you con-
veyed the information to Dr. Turnbull and the consultation
you had with him in the office of the hospital f—As nearly
as I recollect I informed him of what Colonel Crawley had
said to me in the morning as to Sergeant Major Lilley's
having been supplied with such a large quantity of spirits
during the time ho was under arrest, and that as Mrs.
Lilley lead communicated to me that her husband had been
in the habit of taking some brandy and soda 'water every
I considered it my duty to take notice of it.
day,
You have stated that you waited on Mrs. Lilley and
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asked her about her late husband. Ava_
that before or
after your consultation with Dr. Turnbull P— Before my
consultation with Dr. Turnbull. (After a pause) I don't
mean before my conversation in the early morning, but be-
fore y conversation with him in rathe middle of the day
about the addendum, and when the addendum was written.
State exactly, or as nearly as
you can, all that passed be-
wean you and Mrs. Lilley at that interview?—On the 9th
of June, after my conversation with Colonel Crawley, I
waited upon Mrs. Lilley, and
asked her if the statement
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made to me by Colonel rawley was true or not, She said,
he (meaning her husband) took somebrandy
or brandy and water every day, but she thought not enough
to do him harm. I
Do you think it did, Sir ? I replied,
hope not.

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' President—Is that all that passed ?—.A.11 that passed
to the brandy. 1 had a conversation with her
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Mrs. Lilley tell you the quantity of brady her hue..
Did Col. Crawley tell you that a considerable quantity of
&c., had been consumed by Sergeant-Major Lilley,
or that he had had it taken to his bungalow ?—As far as I
recollect Colonel Crawley said he had the brandy.
He did
not say he drank it. I inferred from what Colonel Crawley
said that he actually consumed the brandy.
Upon what grounds did you form your professional
opinion when on consultation on the report which was em..
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bodied in the addendum P—Upon the statement masdijeidl
by Colonel Crawley in the morning, and the admission o
Mrs. Lilley, in the course of the same day, that her husband
hadlconsumed or partaken of some brandygaatnaeddesotonoda water,
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or brandy and water every day.
Who drew up the addendum, aigned by Dr. Turnbull,
stating that he had found on inquiry that the deceased
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the predisposition to disease P—Dr. Turnbull drew up the
report. I was present with him at the time.
Is it the practice in the 6th Dragoons to frame
reports on the statements of the commanding otlicer ?......N0)
it is not.
The Court shortly afterwards adjourned.