The Sun.
London, England, 1863-10-06 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENIN'G, OCTOBER 6, 1863.

The • Igational Social Science Association.

(From the Scotsman.)
Am .nng distinguished strangers who have already
arriv ed in town to attend the meetings of the asso-

ciat;,on may be named—the Hon. Judge Longfield,

President of the Department of Trade and Interna-
tional Law ; and Mr. Thomas Hare, Secretary of the
Chari%y Commission. In all the departments papers

will he read of great interest, some of which are

expe zted to lead to important discussions. In the

dep-irtment of Trade and International Law, sub-
jects of great national importance at the present
time will be discussed. The question of Interna-

tional Law as to blockade will be under considera-

tion in that department, and it is anticipated that

some interesting information will be given as to the
number of ships which have run the blockade in

America. Mr. Westlake, the Foreign Secretary of
the Association, whose opinion on the law of blockade

is entitled to great weight, will in all probability
lay a resolution on the subject before the Depart-
ment of Trade and International Law. It is also

expected that a resolution will be proposed on the
question of allowing neutral Powers to build ships
for or to sell them to a belligerent. Mr. William
Forsyth, Q.C., will be added to the list of vice-pre;
bidents in the Department of Trade and International
Law; and on account of the pressure of businessnb -sec.
come before the department there will be
aof tion appointed, at the request of a number
ship-
owners in Liverpool and other towns to
ships
—dear
the question of the best mode of valuingdin the shipping
subject of importance to all en
trade, as it appears that at
valued.
pgraeergsieeynt there is great
difficulty in getting ships properly
which the depart-
On Thursday, the firstd
ay
will bees follows:
merits meet, the leading
businessartment will be chiefly
—The Jurisprudence
Department
dePdiscussions on "The De-
occupied with
fects of the presentsystem
papfera of Statutory Legislation,"
Evidence in Civil and Criminal
and "The
lavithoe Education Department (which
Causes."!
4},lenAssembly Hall), the papers on univer-
sitymeets in .--.
nmwoirllnifinrgst be taken up, in which the
education
and evening classes at the
propriety of
universities will be discussed. Working men's
colleges will also engage the attention of the de-
partment. In the third department, criminal statis-
tics and criminal legislation will form the subject
of the leading papers. In the fourth department
Professor Christison will read a paper on the
Changes that have occurred in the Type of Disease
in Edinburgh during the last 50 years, and papers
will also be read on Disease in Cattle. The fifth
department will be occupied all day with papers on
Emigration. The sixth department will be chiefly
occupied with papers on Direct and Indirect Taxa-
tion.

On Friday the business will be as follaws :—ln
the Jurisprudence Department, Civil Procedure in
Scotland, and the Bankruptcy Law of Scotland,
will form the subjects of discussion. In the Edu-
cational Department the entire day will be devoted
to papers and discussions on Netional Education,
and the Assembly Hall will no doubt be well
attended during the whole day. Among the papers
read will be the following :—Professor Milligan on
the Parish Schools of Scotland ; Rev. Dr. Bell,
QM, on the Revised Cude ; the Rev. A. Fraser,
On the Present State of Elementary Education
in Scotland, with suggestions as to a commission of
inquiry." The third department will de occupied
all day with the kindred subjects of ragged schools
and reformatories, and among the papers will be one
by Dr. Buchanan " On the Advantages of Ragged
Schools," and another by the Rev. Dr. Robert Lee
4' On the Advantages of Reformatories." In the
fourth department a paper "On the Recent Sani-
tary Works," from Miss Nightingale, will be read,
and Provost Lindsay will read a paper "On the
Pollee Improvement Act of Scotland." The subjects
of the drainage of towns and unhealthy houses will
also be brought under consideration. In the fifth
'department (Social Economy) nearly all the papers
will refer to charity and relief of the poor, one of
them being "Oa the Lancashire Cotton Dis-
trict," by Mr. Edmund Potter, M.P. In the
sixth department there will be read papers on the
Patent Question, on a Uniform System of Weights,
Measures, and Coins, and on Decimal Notators.
On Saturday the Jurisprudence Department will
consider papers on the Torrens Sy!iem of Convey-
ancing, and on the Extension of the Landed Estates
Court to Scotland. In the second department In-
dustrie]. Education will occupy the entire day, there
being four papers on that subject. In the -third
department two papers will be read on the Convict
System, one by the Right Hon. C. Adderley, M.P.,
,oa the "Reports on Penal Servitude and Prison
Discipline," and another by Mr. John Hill Burton,
on the Evidence at the Penal Servitude Act Com-
mission, not printed with the report. In the fourth
department there will ho among other papers two
on Colonial Schools and Hospitals by Miss Night-
ingale. In the fifth department there will be five
papers on Co -operation, two onApprenticeships, and
one on Trades' Societies. The sixth department
will be occupied all day with papers on Scotch
Trades.

On Monday the Jurisprudence jnrisprudence Department will
hear papers on
the Banking
and Currency Laws of
the United Kingdom, aehnd on a proposed public
Register of Railway
be discussions on the subjects entures
of breach
There will also
forec
large each of contract
by workmen, facilitiesthe working classes ac-
quiring house property in towns,
debt actions by retailers against consumers
small
price of necessaries. On the ers for the
last-named subject
Sheriff Hallard, of Edinburgh,
will read
a.
Department will be o •
The Education
occupied with
papers on the two important t • opics of middle class
education and the state of f • oreign education. The
third department will again devote the whole
to papers on the convict s day
system. The fourth de-
partment will take up papers relating to sani •
tary
arrangements in Edinburgh, Leith, and New-
haven. The fifth department will take up
all the day with papers and discussions
on important subjects relating to the con-
dition of the working classes, such as the dwellings
of the working classes in large towns, hinds'
labourers'
houses, Scottish agricultural
rural cot-
tages, Post-office savings banks, l
year y societies,
and the early closing movement, Dr. B
egg having
a paper to read on the last-named subject. The
sixth department will hear three papers " On In-
ternational Law," the discussions on which will
occupy- the entire day. Among the papers will be
one by Dr. I). Chalmers, " On the Capture during
War of Private Property at Sea."
On Tuesday the Jurisprudence Department will
take up papers Oa the Marriage Laws and the
Lunacy Laws" as affecting the medical profession.
The Educational Department will be occupied with
hearing a variety of miscellaneous papers, including
Papers on Sabbath Schools, Music Schools, &cto the
. The
~v,third department will take up papers relating
causes and prevention of crime,the licensing system
in Scotland and the traffic in strong drink being
arnonp, Provost Lind-
-0 the subjects of the papers.
say will read • ti The Granting of Cer-
tificates for
L. one paper on
The fourth department to Public-houses in Scotland.
be taken up with the
reading of a
number
will
miscellaneous sub-
jects, includingtuber of papers on .
the Being of NI
"On the Influence of Smoking on
fifth department!lli" by Mr, Thos. Reynolds. The
will be all with
papers on the em pio ' occupied ai. flay
department pape, Yment of women. In the sixth
Fisheries, the Iriskhßewill be read on the British
prac-
tical finance of life Salmon
fisheries, and the
The arrangements sflo7l;cese.
the meetiag, will d --neaday, the last day of
_
depend,
, to a large
the manner in which the bus; extent, upon
--nese in th
de-
partments is overtaken on the revl •
"8
days.
e various
TIIE UNIVERSITY CONVERSAZIONE
TO
SCIENCE Assoc TUE SOCIAL
ASSOCIATION,
We understand that great exertions:
made by the professors to make the are
cony ' being
oniThursday evening mamost
t one of the ersazime
and original things of tho kind ever brilliant
in Edinburgh. The noble library, 190 feet se"
long,
the eastern hall, staircase, and reading-room are to
be illuminated with gas. The different recesses are
to contain selections from the various museums and
collections of the institution, so as to illustrate the
science and arts taught within its walls. The
Photographic Society of Scotland will present the
chemical specimens of photography. Mederu gal-

vano electricity will be applied to new practical
results; and the rare manuscripts of the library
will be displayed by the librarian. It is anticipated
that the reunion will constitute an exhibition of the
sciences by the professors, calculated alike to in%
struct, please the public, and interest the learned.

caaripiat wliatstlea,tanitda
aepreeop e. "Not gas
blundered
height. mount, a nTdhdown
a,
iheaemdGoeni
at;t t ot„
hoteoh
waiting enough" was the verdict; butwae seoeoennaae man,oe "scouring
gning
with a box in the
lain " They were for a forgotten parcel.
P •
Well; perhaps a pate. "Now it mounts!
T But down
A
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again,e
theand
militaryVe\thieheacrowd
bandseebeigeiinrlel to doubt.
playing " Malbrook s'en va," M.
Nadar and his eleven friends rise and float away
from Paris on a strong south-westerly breeze, which
seemed to get more westerly es they rose. They
expect to be in the upper air in a few hours, and to
stay there four days! They have circulars printed
in German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, and
Dutch, which they mean to scatter to the winds,
and which they hope will be sent to the telegraph
offices, and keep their route before the public. I
must not omit to tell you that an English advertis-
ing tradesman has been in treaty with M. Nader
for a contract for the scattering to the winds some
millions of handbills. M. Nadar was interrupted
when telling me the story, so I am unable to say if
they came to terms.

I must add, in conclusion, that this event has
created the most extraordinary sensation. There
could not have been less than half a million of spec-
tators. The streets were more densely crowded
than on the night of the Fete Napoleon, and M.
Nader and his balloon were "household words"
throughout Paris. The day was cloudy, with a
good deal of wind and a cold air, which I should
think has found out our balloonatices before this
time.

Gahgnani's Messenger says :—" At the moment
of going to press a communication has reached us,
signed by the captain, M. Nadar, and all those who
had taken places in the balloon, stating that on
alighting yesterday evening at 9 o'clock, at Barcy,
near Moaux (Seine-et-Marne), three severe shocks
were experienced which bad the effect of com-
pletely capsizing the balloon and inflicting on its
occupants several rather severe contusions."

The State of Bethnal-Green.—Alleged
Defamation on the Parish.

Last night, at the weekly meeting of the board
of guardians of the parish of Bethnal-green, in the
board-room, Waterloo-road, Victoria Park, the fol-
lowing proceedings took place with reference to the

recent disclosures as to the state of the district,
Mr. Collins occupied the chair.

Mr. COLLINS (addressing Dr. Moore, who had
given evidence on the inquest)—Dr. Moore, 'NI"'
Ward, the mother of the child on whom the inquest
was held in Hollybush•place, complains that though

you attended her child nine days you refused to
give a :certificate of death. The board wishes to

know why you refused.
Dr. MOORE—Because I was not satisfied as to
the cause of death, and I wished to have an inves-
tigation into the case.
Mr. CoLLINs asked what was the first entry in
the book as to the illness of the child.

Dr. MOORE said dentition with regard to the
youngest child, and there was debility in the ear
of the other child. But children did not usually die
of teething. That child died from the impure
atmosphere. There was no specific disease. He
never asked the coroner's officer to get up the
He went to the coroner and told him the feet°. The
coroner said that if the cause of death was not clear
a post-mortem examination should be made-
Mr. ComaNs—Would it not have been more
satisfactory if you had had another medical man
with you upon the post-mortem examination ? The
verdict of the jury was given on your unsupportedcase.
testimony and without the jury visiting the pre-
raises for themselves.

Dr. MOORE—I would have wished
get one,
but I was qualified to make the pst,martem exami-
nationa, doctor
myself. But I had no time to get

—the body was decomposing.
Mr. COLLINS—Don't tell the board that, doctor.
You had time to run about to the Fountain
Tavern
and to the London Hospital after the coroner.
Dr. MooRE said he was always glad to have
assistance, but he was not bound to get it.
The report of the doctor's evidence before the
coroner was read ; and Dr. Moore said
that there
principally
were some verbal inaccuracies—it was

correct.
Dr. MOORE said that he had attended the children
of Butterfield and the Mandrells in Ilollybush-
place. He said before the coroner that the children
had died from similar causes as the
child of the
Wards. Dr. Brotherton attended for him at times,
and he gave a certificate that the child of the But.
terfields, eleven days old, died from asphyxia. Dr.
Brotherton thought that the death
was from blood-
poisoning ; but he gave a certificate of asphyxia,
which was a term that involved
impure air, &c. He (Dr. Moore) poisoning from
in the case of the Mandrells' children, because there
gave a certificate
had originally been a disease, scarlatina. Scarla-
tina was a disease that can be
neouely by foal air, and then propagated by con-
tagion. generated sponta-
e , and we
Mr. COLLINS—Yon stated before the coroner
that the children died from blood-poisoning,
wish to show from your own certificates that they
died from other causes.
Dr. MooRE said that he believed
that all the
children had been affected by the same influence,
but he was clear that the children died from poisons

from the foul atmosphere.
Mr. COLLINS—yo 4 have
appointed sanitary inspector, that you were
your troublesome reports you were dismissed.
When were you appointed
p stated
andte that owing to
a
Dr. MOORE said that he had be en directed by
the board to examine and report on the state of
nuisances, &c., in the parish. Se and his colleague
did so, but the result was that before Dr. Pierce
was elected to the paid office the board put forward
an advertisement expressly excluding every gentle-
man that held an appointment under the board from
the post. That was a virtual dismissal, and several
members of the board told him that the object was
to shut out all those doctors whose reports were
troublesome, and who were running about " stink
hunting" in the parish.
Several members denied that such an advertise-
ment had been published, but Dr. Moore was posi-
tive on the point.
Dr. PIERCE said that in justice to Dr. Moore he
wished to state that he had heard in 1856 that no
one who then held the position of sanitary inspector
should hold the paid appointment.
The Wards, the Mandrel's, and the Butterfields
were then called in with a view to show that the
s
deaths were from scarlatina, or other natural disease,
and also apparently to show that Dr. Moore had
been guilty of" neglecting his patients," because Dr.
Brotherton, who had frequently attended in his
absence, was not his legally-
ointed deputy.
The man WARD app
said that Mr. Englehart, one of
the board, had come down to his room and behaved
in an impertinent and overbearing manner. He said
that the place was a beautiful one, that the view
was like Finsbury-square, and that he would not
take a lie from any
one.
Mr. ENGLERART said that he only said he would
not be misled by any one. He was certainly sur-
prised when he looked out and saw the flowers in
gardens round about.
WARD said the nuisances were in another direc-
tion, and they were shocking. No Government in-
spector visited the place.
Mr. PEREIRA asked why he remained in the
If h e
h(eM
shouldr . Pe Pereira)
consider
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13) foundsider
this
would
ld family'sbe
man-
slaughterl lives
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endangered place,
siafihdethdaitdhneotwinas" a e.
WARD
shoemaker, and could
were
lelarEceßecsoEnw,l
yniersenodical officer of health, said that
not easily get a place.
we
no; sa e
in than htahne H
cowshed,ollyb us hn-place a6c6e
'Therem aDn ry.
The distance from the shed to the houses was 18
yards, not 8. He had directed some alterations to
be made. Each person in nollybush-place had 250
feet of air; children and all.
Mr. GOODWIN, vice-chairman
the parish had been maligned, and c
that Dr. ne d
Moore
thatnore
was
3iar.t
Athue bsTloNtt,omlanodf it.
lnr
d of Hollybush-place, said
that mis-statements lied been made about his pro-
perty. Ho admitted, however, that some of the
closets were not trapped ; the drains were, and he

was now repairing the place. The place was not
very clean, but it was not very bad.
After some further discussion the meeting was
adjourned.

by. He (Thorogood) went there and examined the house,
but no money was found, only some letters.
Wm. Seymour French said he lived at No. 46, Liverpool-
street, King's-cross, and was a cleik at Messrs. Smith and
Son's book stall, at the King's-cross Station, and on the
morning in question the witness Thorogood spoke to him,
and they both went into the booking office. The detective
and the prisoner were a little distance past the first-class
waiting room in the booking office. The prisoner, when
charged with the robbery, said, " Oh,what nonsense; I was
going to read it." That book was the only one in stock.
The prisoner, when called upon for his defence, said on
the day in question while at the station, in front of the stall,
having been to the railway to see a friend off, he observed
the book called the Alpine Guide, and some time ago having
had a book of a similar description, he wished to ascertain
whether it was the same or another edition. He took the
book from the stall, and while examining it the detective
cams up and seized him by the collar, charging him with
stealing the book, of which charge he was entirely innocent.
He (the prisoner) wished, if the book had been a new work,
at some future time to have purchased it. The letters which
were found on him would give him an excellent character,
and he trusted the jury would deem him a man utterly in-

capable of committing such an act.
The jury, having consulted together for a few minutes,
returned a verdict of guilty.
Mr. Poland said the jury having given their verdict, he
would state that on Nov. 12 the stall was left in the care of
a boy, Mr. French being engaged elsewhere. The prisoner
came up, and took a book off one of the shelves. He asked
the price, when the boy observed him about to place the book
in his pocket. He was asked whether he wanted to buy it.
The boy not suspecting him, owing to his being respectably
dressed, said nothing to any person.
The learned Judge then sentenced him to be imprisoned
in the House of Correction for six calendar months.

James M'Mahon, 22, labourer, was charged with unlaw
fully and maliciously committing damage to a pane of glass,
value £l5, the property of John Thompson Gideon.
The prisoner pleaded not guilty.
James Pocock said he was a barman at the Prince Albert
Tavern, Kentish-town, in the service of the prosecutor. On
the 21st of September, in the afternoon, the prisoner came
into the shop with several other ram. The prisoner was
drunk, and having been there for some short time, began
wrestling with another man, who was standing at the bar.
Ho (the prisoner) required some drink, but being riotous
was refused. A struggle ensued, and he was ejected from
the premises, and afterwards pushed his fist through a thick
pane of glass.
Roymon Bosley, police-constable 124 S, said he took the
prisoner into custody. He was drunk, and said nothing.
The prisoner, in his defence, said he had no intention to
break the window.
The jury immediately returnel a verdict of guilty.
Mr. Payne, in passing sentence, said he was constantly
in the habit of remarking as to the evils arising from intem-
perance ; and here was another instance. Here was a man
who, being drunk, goes into a house and wishes to be
served with drink, and the barman, very properly, seeing
his condition, refused him, when the prisoner gave vent tohis
feelings by smashing the window. It being highly desirable
that shopkeepers should be protected from these attacks—
an act of Parliament having been framed for that special
purpose—he (Mr. Payne) trusted the sentence ho was about
to pass would act both as a warning to him and to others.
The sentence of the Court was, that he be imprisoned and
kept to hard labour in the House of Correction for nine
calendar months.
Charles Roper, 19, shoemaker, was indicted fcr stealing a
coat, value £2, the property of James Adams.
The prosecutor is a van proprietor, and on the 30th of
August he was about leaving home for a drive. He took off
his coat and put it on a dog-cart outside the stable-door.
He went into the stable for a short time and on his return
he found that it was gone.
Mary Ann Western, of No. 10, Ogle•mews, said the pri-
soner took a coat to her and asked' the value of it, and she
told him that she thought it would fetch 10s. by daylight.
He took it away. It was the coat produced.
Alfred Hebburn, assistant to Mr. Crouch, pawnbroker, of
No. 35, Sussex street, produced a coat pawned by a female
on the 31st of August last.
John Bell, police-constable 101 E, proved receiving the
prisoner into custody on this charge.
The Jury found the prisoner guilty, and, when about to
be sentenced,
The prisoner said he was engaged by a cab proprietor to
work in his stable, and had been in that situation for some
time, when a policeman of the C division happened to find
him out and told his master that he had had four months'
imprisonment, upon which his master immediately dis-
charged him.
Mr. Payne said he should like that fact to be ascertained,
and told Mr. Lockyer, the prison officer, to make inquiries
as to the truth of the prisoner's statement, and also to ascer-
tain his antecedents. Having conferred with the other ma-
gistrates on the bench, his lordship said that he should
defer passing sentence until next session, when he would be
brought up for judgment.