The Sun.
London, England, 1808-03-02 00:00:00

REPORT Ok THE ARMY ESTIMATES.

The CHANCtLLOR of the EXCHRQUHR moved tho
Order of the Day for the further consideration of the
Report of the Committee Of Supply. On the quo-
tien that the Resolutions be read a third time,

Mr. WlNDlfiiill said he would abstain from go-
ing at'anyleugt# into the consideration of the sub-
jett,of the Army Estimates, because there was so
much to be said upon it, and because the subject
must inevitably,. from time to time be brought
wider the consiration of Parliament. Shifts and
expedients must necessarily be resorted to, unless
the recruiting eit the Regular Army should be placed
upon its. natural ground, by holding put inducements
to the men to eater, and making their situation
respectable.
IPILBERFORCE expressed some surprise
that the Array -Estimates, which used re give rise to,
such 18ngthened debates, should have been so lightlk,
passed over, at a time too whys it was, on ail
hands' allowed* that the necessity for "providing a
formidable.. defensive force was greatly augmented.
Fie had always been a friend to the Volunteers,
and had witnessed the alacrity with which they
marched.in the North to-the defence of their shores,
on the first intelligence of the' Enemy's force'being
off their coast. Notwithstanding the superiority of
our naval force, it was the opinion of the highest
naval'and military authorities that the Enealy might
be able to run a body of troops into the Country;.
and therefore it was his opinion that it was neces-
sarby to train such a proportion of the population Of
the Country to arms as would, under the blessing of
Vrovideuce, not only prevent any attack during the
war, but secure the Country from a coup do main'
in peace, when Otis army and navy should be
nished.

The SECRETARY at WAR explained the various
items of the Estimates, and the heads an 6 amount
of saving in the pre,ent Bill, and where such saving
was to take place; and then expressed his concur-
rence in the opinion of his Hon. Friend, that it
would be necessary to have some systematic mode
of defence provided, not less in 'the event of peace
than of war.

Colonel Noon disapproved of the system of the
Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Windham), and re-
commended the erection of fortifications, and: the
establit,hrnerst-of magazines in ditferent parts of the.
kingdom.
Mr. estvs bore testimony to the merit of thel'o-
lunteers, and 'though he bad supported the plan of
the Right Lion. Gentleman, he thought it extraor-
dinary that be should not have allowed the men en-
listed to enter for life if they those.
After a few words from Mr. Rose, and a short
speech from Mr. WINDHAM, in defence of his mi-
litary system, and :mother from Lord CASTLERUAGH
in reply, the several Reiolutions were agreed to, and
a Bill ordered accordingly.
The SticRETARY at WAR ;then obtained leave
to bring in a Bill to prevent Mutiny and De-
sertion.

Mr, WHITBREAD suggested to, his Noble Friend
(Lord 1191Icestotie); that it might, be for hiq own
convenience, and that of the House, to defer the
consideration of the Oude Papers, which' stood for
that day, to •another day.
A °short conversation. took I)lace between Lord
FOLKESTONE, Mr. SHER-MANI the QIIANCELLDII of
.the ,VACIIIMUER, • Mr. G. Pdtusoway, and Mr.
SliAirti,E, which was con(11:14-ted in a spirit of no..
cOminodation on both sides of the House, and ler-
niinated in the following -arratigernent :—The ad-
journed debate upon the Oude Papers was still further
adjourned to Wednesday next'; the Motion of Mr, .
Suit/lint, relative sp the copenhagen :x{ cfitioti,
whieh stood nuticol • itr- "Wednesday (this day),
was m:paned to Friday se'nnight ; and an under-
standing established that, the third reading of the

No further information has been received respect-
ing the Rochefort Squadron, nor is it, we be-
lieve, -verfealy ascertained that the Squndroti
which was seen oil' Point De Gatt, in the Me-
diterranean, was the one which escaped
Roeheicirt. Indeed it' is impossible that ;he
same Squadron which was seen to the south-west
of Madeira on the 24th could have been off Point
de Gatt ota the 26th January
.; but if we understand
the accounts correffly, -the. French ships were not
seen off Point de Gatt on the 213th, but they were
seen to pass the Gut on the taith or 27th. 'NoW if
it be true that a Fretich Squadron passed the Straits

to the eastward on the 26th or 27th it must have been
the Rochefort Squatlron. It has been suggested, how-
'ever, and it is by no means improbable, that if any
Enemy's! Ships were seen off Point. de' Gatt, they
might have been' the Carthagena Squadron, which
had ventured out to perform, a few evolutions.

THE Instruetions givdh by the late Administra-
tion to Lord ST: VINCENT, when he went to the
Tagus in 18013, Which will be found in a subsequent
column, afford the most conclusive answer to the,
charges which they. haver brought against the pre-
sent Ministers for the attack upon Copenhagen, be-
c,ause these Instructions are, almost in every respeft,
situilar to those given to Lords CATHCART and
rum. Lord ST. Vrtyca4.T was desired to offer the
Vcrtuguese Government the assistance of this Country,
if Portugal' should be able and willing to make effec-
tool exertions in her own defence, A similar offer

was made by Lords CATIMARS Mid GAMBIER, pre-
vious fo'. the attack Opon Copenhagen. But if it.
Cb".-
appeared Vi''LOrd ST. VINCENT that _the Portuguese
- '
Government: had not the means or the inclination
to resist gle French, and that they would not adopt
the measure of emigrating to, the, Brazils, his Lord-
ship was directed to take measurea for bringing
away the Portuguese Flat and thißrazil Ships ; and
in order to enable him to accomplish this object, he is
informed that a body of Troops will be 'sent out to
him.. The only difference, therefote, between the
transactionstwo is, that the present Ministers sent
a sufficient Force to accomplish the object, and the
late Ministers, when they- sent Lord Sr. VINCEN;
up-on a similar Miision to the Tagus; • promised to
'send the necessary force after him. No man CM
for a mbnient doubt,- that if the Portuguese Govern-
Mont; in 1806, had acted as the Danish Government
,did in 1807,. Lord Sr. VOICENT‘ would have been
!bound by hii instructions to have landed his Troops (if
he had had "any with him), to have bombarded Lis-
bon, and in short to have adopted every measure,
however hostile and distressing tb the Portuguales
that would have been necessary to enable him to
bring away :he Portuguese Fleet.—And yet the
same men that planned Lord ST. VINCENTs.B Expodi-
tion to Lisbon (if it deserves that name) represent
.the Expedition to Copenhagen as an ad of the
grossest. injustice !

Wit had not robm yesterday to 'make, any com-
.Ments 'uptin the three Motions submitted to the
ofCemmons by Mr WHIT:MEAD, on Mon-
dailast, or on that Gentleman's speech upon the oc•
casia btit, indeed, there is little necessity for any
,obsevations
run the subject, for even Mr. Wityr•
:BREAD'S Ideas were by no means inclinod to agree
with him as to those Motions, and because his arga-
men'ts .were .so ably and so ;decisively 'refuted by
Ministers. It , cannot for a moment be supposed; iF
Ministers saw any reasonable hope of opening a
Negotiation for Peace, upon proper terms, that they
would be restrained by a mere regard to punctilio
from endeavouring to procure so desirable a result.
But it cannot be conceived possible to attain it by
lettitig BUONAPARTE know that we were induced by
the restriEtion of our Commerce to solicit Peace
from his band. 136UNAPARTE must feel, or rather
the unhappy People under his controul must feel,,,
the burthens which ho vainly attempts to intlia
us by his ridiculous blockade,.and must express their
discontents 'in such a manner as to excite some
in his mind, before be. will think seriously of euter4
ing upon a Negotiation with- us for such a Peace as
we can-assent to, with a proper regard to our.na-

tional honour and maritime predominance. Till

the period, therefore, shall arrive when he may
deem .it his best policy to put -an end to those
tyrannical restraints upon commerce - which-are felt
all over the world, it shews nothing but the spirit of
party to bring forward motions which can have no
etfeitit but to embarrass the operations of Government,
at n time thee imperiously demands its utmost yin
gour ,and activity. We cannot conclude without
adverting to some observations which were made
by Mr. PASSING in the debate alluded to, and
which are well entitled to the particular iitlCUtiOti of
the public. Speaking of the Overture for Media.'
tion on the part of Russia, Mr. CANN/NG justly
contended, that we ought to lay nd stress up-
on the deClaration of General BUDIIERG, that. there
were no Secret 'Articles in the Treaty of Tilsit' which '
!elated to this Country, as we never could permit.
that MiniSter to decide on our concerns, particularly
as it is known that the conclusion of that Treaty was
followed by the surrender of the Seven Islands to
France, a 'surrender which Russia had no right to
make, as she was only a joint guarantee with this
Country for the. ibdependence of the Republic of
those Islands. This, :then, was an ea resulting from
the Treaty in question Which related to this Coun-
try, and which plainly sheaved- rhd incompetency of,
Russia to be considered as an impartial Mediator.
But, as Mr. CANNING also properly, observed, why
were we to depend upon the assertion of the Russian,.
Minister as to the Secret Articles of the Treaty of Til-,'
sit,or as to 1, he disposition of Buo N APARTE to conclude
a 'peace ith,us. upon just 'and honourable pr:n-
OPies,Whtin.ave ought 'to have known these Secret
Articles,- and 'the principles upon which *JONA.,
PASTS' •wtts.. inclined to treat, that we might jUdge for
ourselves upon matters of .such essential importance
not only to this Country but to all Europe 1-=.- '
But, further to justify oer distrust: of Russia
as a Mediator, without such communications as
we had a right to demand, Russia had refused to
ratify its'own-proposition for a Treaty of Conamerce
with this Countrl, which had been pending some
months, and the prcyci of which Russia had received
from this Coentry before the conclusion ot the Peace
Of Tilsit. !Hence we might infer that her disposi-
tion towards us was obviously changed by that peace.
These ilre such 'substantial grounds to justify the con-
du& of the British Government with reaped tothe Un-
portaut subjed of peace, and Ow refusal to acaePt

the mediation of Russia., with a blind conAtlence in
Ler assertions, after the patent evidence of fa&s, that
tile party who attempts to impeach them on such
grounds, can only bring disgrace upon thenuelvßs,i
instead of exciting convi&ion in their countrymqp,

We stated-yesterday
.tbe capture of seven DaniSli
gm-boats by the Cleo Slobp. The French Papers
haye lately been telling is of a new mode of naval
attack which had been devised by the
,Danes :—Se-
veral boats or privateers were to make a combined
attack upon any of our ships of war.—One was to
attack on the bow, another on the quarter, a third
was to place herself in such a position, a fourth in
another. The'se seven Gun7boats tried this new me-
thod; the Cho, as we understand, let them advance,
and when she was in the midst of them. began the
old British manceuvres, and took them all.
Yesterday being St. David's Day, the annual pro-
cession of the childreu belonging to the Welch
stitution took place, as usual, attended by the Presi.
dent, Vice Presidents, &c. After paying their re 7
speets to the Prince of WA/As, at Carleton-honse,
tneY Went to St. James's Church, and heard Divine
Service, dining which the Gentlemen of the Groove.'
tor and Percy Chapel Choirs performed PIERCY'S
7'e Demi: and Jubilate; BOYCE'S duet, " Here shall:
soft Charity repair,- by- Messrs. ELLIOT and Mat.-
' AULTRNE• ELLIOT, in HANDEL'S line song, "He
Was Eyes unto the Blind," was never heard to more
advantage; and the Chorus, " He dalivered, Scc."
was most ably sustained. After an excellent Set.,
awe by the Lord Bishop of CHEsTER, 'HANDEL'S
Grant COtonation Anthem fillislied the perform-
ance: the'Organ, by Mr. PIERCY, was in his usual
FcTreet style. the Members of the Institution after-
tuardi dined at the Crown and Anchor Tavern, and
spent the evening in social harmony.
CITY BIiSINEsS.—A Common Hall was held yes-
at Guildhall, for the election of Bridge-Mas.
ter for the remainder of the year, in the room of
+lujoS. WELLS, lately deceased, when Mr. YEO.
4RD was eleated by a considerable majority.—The
41tib Mayoa afterwards held a Court of Aldermen.
!t Which the price of Bread was ordered to be raised
111 f an assize,, or a penny in the peck loaf, to take
te-inorrow; when the quartern loaf, wheaten,
be sold Jur 1 bd. and household, 1 bd....Tbe
ord Bishop of SALISetraY, and the Rev. --
14nRews, were requested to preach the Spital Ser-
res at Christ Church, Nergate-street] on Mon-
ay and Tuesday in Easter. week.
Letters from Gottenburgh by the last conveyauce
tate, that General STEDIVO, brother to the late'
tSweclish Ambassador at the Court of St. Peters-
Ptirgie has proposed a plan to the Swedish Go
tanent, by which he pledges himself v<itlt 20,000
tvedish troops, to defend Finland against. the it-
t'asion of 100,000 Russians. This General's profes-
sieual talents are much esteemed.
fro she Captain of a Vessel which has just arrived
iroin a Dutch Port, states the prevalence of a re-
Port throughout the Continent that BOoNAI,ARTE-i3
about to attempt the execution of his long promised
Projeet, for the establishment of a King of Jeru-
salem; and that the Court of Constantinople will,
according to appearances, acquiesce in the plan.--
Possibly the currency of this rumour is at present
Inemtited merely with a view to facilitate the at-
talornent of the loan, or loans, which BOON ArARTE'S
Nvalts have been for some time negociating.
irsThe KING of Paussta has removed his residence
111 Nettle! to Konigsberg, where he lives in a state
°!
Comparative obsculity. It doeg not seem proba-
ble that he will proceed to Berlin for sonde time—to
reside in ins splendid palaces ivitla means inadequate
to Support his former rank, cahoot be grateful to his
feelingt Among those AO° surround his—lVlaje3-.
surround
are tp be found very few. who Weft.; for 7,
inerly known at his Court: ' He has discarded die'
great; 'or they have departed ftonalitu ; and he has
elevated the humble, because ,among the latter lie
nas, iii his adverse .circtatnstarices, tonnd more fide-
lity.
TiitArrig.--The Comedy of The Chances
was represented again last night .at Drury-lane
'eatre.--111r.„ErzisToN is. much improved_ to his
performance of Don John since his first appearance
iq that character, but there is still much room
for improvement,. Mrs. JORDAN'S second Constantia
14 $0 exquisite a pieCe of acting in spirit, humoi'ir,
atid feeling, that it is much to be regretted that the
Pliharaeter is so short. The Comedy was followed
a new musical Farce, bntitled, In and Out of
tS toune. It is a very indifferent cortiposition, both as
its dramatic and musical. qualities. The dialogue
quite vapid, and was hardly, enlivened by any
Itvi'lag that.
.approached to wit Or humour. The
there is merely of an ordinary description, and
ere la nothing in the -Piece altogether but what
has been heard over and over again. The Music is
ascribed to 'that rapid niatinfaCiurer of music Mr.
ITLitrut" ,r.lhe dramatic part is attributed to his for-•
11.-I'e"au.ll-Itor, Mr, cHERRy. It is impossible for
that/to obtain the smallest addition
of repute onthis
that
it Tile Performers exerted themselves so Well
lierhat is .8 a Pity they had not better materials. But
is
in
the sotnewhat extraordinary, though.. Miss LYON,
!u" piece;' *ha is no* one of the best.female
gh on'the English Stage, Miss DuNcArr; by the
ilrnber ot
, songs, assigned to her, appeared to 'be
oa4Pri'lga /VA. This is still more extraordinary 1
as miss LYON is a pupil of conni. Miss Duwc4tN
l!!rforinecl a Scotch chant-lei. She might speak the::
dialed very correaly, but it was in a great degree
Unintelligible to Itnglish ears;,--Dowro* Was sure
prised by the necessity of repeating a sofig.restolini.7
1111°N14 was encored, but amidst great opposition.—,
e Claw attempted to announce the piece for
gepetition to-rnorrow, but the clarnettr was too -
treat for a syllable, to be heard. The house *wast-
crowded. •
0PERA....4 new CoMic Opera iies brought
,orward last night at the Kings .Theaere, intitted
11 Plato contra at Furbo, the music by FIORAYANTI.
ATALANI appeared to advantage.—me house was
lull. •
The veteran Diann; came forward again last
fight at the Lyceum, with his old species of enter...
WI-intent, which sheaved that his means powers are
;Still in-tnii Vigeur, though .he was obliged tb
801!'e 'coadjutors in the musical departnient.
Dlre N's daughter has,made her debut the
üblin Theatre, in theituete,sting part af'ddelai.de,',
.14Play Of Ante/el/We Fercst. She is a beautietti
;'"ul interesting ' I d -1
l sub-
eir , ark , when !ter LI
L4icti
isteayed considerable interest.