The Sun.
London, England, 1863-12-08 00:00:00

creditable to this country. It transpired, however, that the
late Prince Consort had had a great deal to do with the ar-
rangeraent and concoction of the edifice, and it was proposed
to retain the ugliest building in Europe as a monument of
respect to his memory. The House of Commons had, how-
ever, rejected the vote, so that the pockets of the taxpayers
had been saved the purchase of these useless buildings.
(Hear.) He regretted that the usual measure for the aboli-
tion of Church rates had been rejecied by a majority of 10.
As a Churchman he declared that it was most discreditable
to allow the question to remain in its present state. (Ap-
plause.) Church-going persons ought at least to maintain
their own places of worship, for dissenters maintained not
only their chapels, but also their ministers, while the clergy
of the Church had endowments for their support. There
had been another discussion on a very old question—that
members of Parliament should be elected by bal:ot. The
motion was unfortunately lost ; but from his Parliamentary
experience, which now extended over nearly 30 years, he
was convinced that no reform bill would be of essential
value unless the ballot formed a portion of it. (Applause.)
They did not want the ballot, he would admit, in the
borough of Lambeth, because that borough contained
large employers who did not attempt to coerce their work-
men. But elsewhere electors were often unable to vote
as they wished. When the vote by ballot prevailed the
House of Commons would be the reflex of the opinions
of the people of this country, and not before. A vast ex-
penditure was incurred in maintaining our colonies. We
had about 45 of these colonies, which were of no use to this
country, but which cost us 4250,000 a year. There was
a time when the colonies might have been of service. Be-
fore the passing of free-trade measures the colonies pur-
chased their supplies and manufactures from us, Now they
could go over the whole world, and buy where they chose.
He did not object to that; but the Government ought to
insist on the colonists forming thmselves into rifle oorps for
their own defence, instead of calling on this country to send
them troops. Canada, for example, was an enormous ex-
pense to the mother country. The States of America were
certain to go to war with us about that colony. If they
were to take it from us it would be a great saving to the
people of this country. At all events, if the Canadians did
not establish a militia, and form themselves into rifle corps
for their own defence, he would propose that the connexion
between Great Britain and Canada should be in a friendly
way withdrawn. The Government had the agreeable
duty of providing Governors and other officers for these
colonies at high. salaries. The House of Commons was
even called 11DOIL to pay the bishops and clergy of some
colonies. When he entered the house 25 years ago the
first thing he did was to complain of the payment of bishops
in Canada. They afterwards proposed a vote for the salary
of a bishop in New Zealand. He divided the house against
it, and the vote was withdrawn. There was a horrible out-
cry from the friends of the Church, but what was the result ?
The people of New Zealand provided a salary for the bishop,
and he was paid by those for whose benefit he laboured.
He regretted that so much indifference existed in the House
of Commons in regard to the expenditure. We had a body
of 170,000 rifle soldiers, most of whom were stated on high
military authority to be fully equal to regiments of the line.
Instead, however, of diminishing the standing army the
Government went on increasing it. There seemed to be in
high quarters, indeed, a disposition to make ours a military
Government, like the great despotisms on the Continent.
But the country did not require a large standing army for
its defence. Our natural defence was our navy, and that
was in a most efficient state. In point of strength and
fighting materiel it was nearly double that of France. At
present our army and navy cost twice as much as during
the Ministry of Wellington and Peel. He did not see why
Lord Palmerston should want double the expenditure that
those distinguished men thought necessary, when he had
175,000 Volunteers, in addition to the regular army. (Hear,
hear.) He had proposed a reduction of 10,000 men of the
standing army, but he got very little support, and unless
the country made a stir there would be no change. He gave
the Government great credit for maintaining peace in the
present state of the world. The rebellion in the United States
of
..kmerica was a most disastrous event, but to go to war
with merica would be an act of insanity. The time would
come whezi that war would cease, and then we should again
receive our usual cotton supply. He wished it might be
soon, but the pro 'Peet was not very bright at present. There
was a disastrous sta:-.!: of things in Poland in consequence cf
the atrocity and brutal conduct of the Russians. Our Go-
vernment and that of France had made a vain attempt to
obtain justice for Poland, but the Russian Government was
behaving in a more oppressive and tyrannical manner than
ever. The English Government were at peace with great
countries, but we always had some little wars on hand.
We had a little war, for example, in New Zealand.
A Gentleman who sat on the front bench, close to the
platform, here exclaimed, " We cannot hear one single sen-
tence of what you are saying."
Mr. WILLIAMS said he was doing his best, but as his
voice was so weak he would bring his remarks to a close.
It appears that our ships of war had attacked one of
the towns in Japan and set it on Ore. It had 100,000 in-
habitants, and many men, women, and children were de-
stroyed. He did not see how it was possible to obtain the
friendship of that people after such destruction of life
and property. Ho regretted that he had not been able
to make himself better heard, but he must express his grate-
ful thanks to the electors of Lambeth for the patience with
which they had listened to him and the confidence which
they had placed in him. The hon. member having expressed
his willingness to answer any questions that might be put
to him, resumed his seat amid loud applause.

I° The following resolution, moved by Mr. T. A. LYON, se-
conded by Mr. WEBBER, and supported by Captain D.
ROGERS, was carried unanimously :—" That this meeting,
having heard the statement of Mr. W. Williams, respecting
his political conduct during the last session of Parliament,
are of opinion that his faithful and indefatigable services in
the Commons House of Parliament eminently merit the
grateful thanks of this meeting, which are hereby most
cordially tendered to him; and this meeting also express
their most anxious hope that he may be blessed by Divine
providence with health and strength to continue to repre-
sent this borough for many years yet to come."
Mr. WILLIAMS, in acknowledging the resolution, said he
could assure them that he joined most cordially in the hope
that he might long continue to represent the borough of
Lambeth. (Applause.) Years were rolling over him, and he
found that he could not stand 2 o'clock in the morning so
well as he could 30 years ago. He had been a member of
Parliament for 29 years within a month, and he would take
upon himself to say that no one had given more votes or
attonded in his place more regularly than he had. (Ap-
plause.) At the last election a very important borough of-
fered to return him without cost or trouble. He declined
the offer with thanks, being determined never to represent
any constituency but the men of Lambeth. (Applause.)
Mr. PuELPs then moved, " That this meeting deplores
the continuance of extravagant Government expenditure,
such as that of the army and navy, useless fortifications,
&c., in times of peaee, but sees no hope of a reduction
of taxation without more combined action on the part of
the professing Liberal members of the House of Commons;
this meeting therefore trusts that other constituencies will
request their representatives to combine with their esteemed
member. Mr. W. Williams, in endeavouring to achieve so
desirable an object. And this meeting, having heard that
church rates have been made in two of the parishes in the
borough of Lambeth, hereby express their surprise and in-
dignation at a revival of the obnoxious impost, and urgently
entreat their representative Mr. Williams to use his influence
in the House of Commons to abolish church rates for ever."
Mr. PARKER seconded and Mr. CULVERWELL supported
the resolution.

An elector in the body of the room suggested that it was
ill-timed to add to the resolution just proposed a declaration
against church rates.

The resolution was, however, put and carried without a
dissentient, and the proceedings terminated with the usual
acknowledgment to the chair.

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