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London, England, 1806-07-16 00:00:00

SLAVE TRADE.

On the Order of, the Day being read for the House
resolving itself into a Committee on the Slave Ship
Restrktion Bill, _ _ _

The Earle IVESTMORLAND"went cher seve-
ral of the arguments before urged against the Bill,
which, he contended, svoulci be highlywinst in its
operation, and that by enacting that the Ships now
employed in the Slave Trade should be traded by the
same owners, great loss of property would frequently_
ensue to the remaining owners o'f a Vessel, where a
part owner died, or became bankrupt, as in that case,
from the change of the property, the Ship could not
be continued in the trade. •

Lord GREA PILLE conten4ed that it having
been determined by both Hoifses that the. Slate
Trade blight to be abolished as soon as possible, it
was a necessary ,consequence of that measure
,to
bring in the present Bill, in order to prevent that su-
perabundant supply" of Slaves which would other.,
wise be attempted in the interval to be poured into
the West India islands, while it way at the same
time an a 6 of justici to the subje6ts of the country
to .prevent them from, engaging in a trade tip their
certain loss. He didnot conceive that any injustice
to individuals would result from the present Bill, al=
though; in all great measures of policy, it was impos--
sible to prevent some individual hardships arising
from their Operation.
' Lord ELDON. argued, that in the present case
individuals Might be exempted from loss of property
without endangering the principle of the Bill. He
was of opinion that; from OK; words of the Bill, if
any part owner Of a Ship emploved in the Slave
Trade died or became bankrupt, the property being
changed, the remaining owners could Snot Continue
to trade with the vessel, the property in which would
the(eforebecome of littleOr no value, the remaining
Owners sustaining a heavy loss, and the estate•of the
testator or the bankrupt be seriously_ injured, and
thus creditors be unable to obtain_ their demands. ,

The Earl of LAUDERDALE defended the Bill,
and maintained, that the persons engaged in the
trade had had amply sufficient notice of the inten-
tion of the Legislature to abolish it,. 'and- therefore
()tight not now to complain of injustice. He thought
that the words of the Bill, which had been ohjetied
to, ought to .remain, as to allow other' owners to
trade with'. the present vessels would only tend to
increase the number of clalmantt for. compensation
when the Legislature finally abolish.; I the trade.. s _ _

•
-Lord Viscount SIDMO VTI-1 ckelared binlsOf
friendly to•theu'oolition of the trade, provided it was
(lane aAiitiously, With full information upon the sub-
jeet, and with as little injury and,oppression as, p9s-
sible to individuals. •

• • Lord. RBDESDA LE also expressed hitrell
friendly to the Aboittiola, but he thought it .• had
been retarded by the harshness used towards those
who carried on the Trade. In ordpc to prevent this
Bill from being a harsh measuly upon individuals,
he suggested that those words" should be left out
Which restricted the ,emplofplent of the yesselS now
in the trade to the present 'owners.
Lard' ELLENI3gRaVII NI-rtfa • of opinion that ,
,
the words objetted not legally bear the inter-
pretation which had been put upon them. tie ciin7
tended, that notwithstanding the death of baril4iiptcy
of any of the part owners, the vessels might still be
navigated upclet the old register.
The fiouie then reSolvetz itself into, Committee,
Where,. sotne conversation aioe upon the -different
in the course of"'N'Vhic!)..LOrel ELiENB9-
F,9t79.4 Warmly replied 0 an ei)Fess!un- ns,e4 by the

Earl of WESTMORLAND. The latter Noble Lord
moved to leave out the words." any cr.vner or
ers," with a view to prevent the trade from being,
restriCted to the present owners of the vessels em-
ployed in it. This was opposed by Lord ELLENB:).
notiGH and Lord GRENVILLE, on the grounds be-
Lore stated 5 and supported by Lord ELDON. The
propoSition was negatived: Lord ELDobl moved to
extend the time limited for taking out licences for
navigating vessels.in the trade from the lit of Aug.
to the Ist of Sept. This Amendment -was also n,.-
gatived, as *as likewise.an Amendment propoi.ed by
the Earl of WESTMORLAND, to limit the duratio!l .
the Bill to the end oi• the next Session of. Parli
tnent, instead of two Years. The Bill then p;ii,t d
through the Committee, and.was reported v..ithoL.t •
amendment'. •

The. Bankr;lpt Laws Bill was mat; a second time,
and committed for to-mm-row.

Adjourned till to-morrow (thisiday),

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

TUESDAY, JULY I's,

A Message from the Lords, declared their Ass:ent
to the Quarantine Bill and others, 46 also requesuid
a Copy of the Report of the .Committee fur. c,•K-
amining. the Accounts of the Exch.equer of Sett
relating. to the . Grams from the Forfeited •Esta.tes,
with Abstrads of the Proceedings. To this part .)f-
-the, Message the Corntrions resolved -to, send an;
Answer by•Meiseo,o-s of tifeir own.
Simpson's Divorce .Bni com-nitted, and, arter-
tlie examination of NV-finesses, 'passed through the
'Committee.

The Ordnance Lands Bill, the Sca:nan's.
ment 3111, the Bell Rock Bill, :the S',.:otch tiof ited
Estates' Bill, and Rodney's Annuity Bill, v.':_•r
a third time and passed.
Mr. WILLIAM- WYNNE moved for a Copy of
Co:n7nission or Coulinisons grair:. 1 to provide for
the proper Arrangement anti. Preservatinn of the-Pqh,
lic Records of the' Kitigdom, on the 1 Ith of July,
1803, pursuant to the,Address of the Huse; stating
what had been dune under the Commission, and
what were the present Proceedings. Ordered,
Mr. WYNNE then presented an Account of the
QUalifications of Deputy Lieuteuants and Militia Of:-
ficers, from the date of the last Return. Otdered to
lie on the Table.

The Stage Coach Mt Amendment Bill, the 60ne.e.
rat Warehousing Bill, the Woods and Forests 'legit+.
lation Bill, the Windsor Forest InqUiry Bill, the Irish
Hops, Glass, &c. Bill, and the, Lortery Bih, were
reported, and ordered to be read a third time to..
morrow.

The Militia Officers' Pay Bill was reßcrrted.

Mr: PEacirm. said, (liar ne woccu ..ot say any
thing against the Bill at present, but ,would take the
sense of the House.on the third reading.
The Bill was then ordered to be read a alio time
to-morrow.

The London Additional Force Reuel Bill Wit%
COMM( tteti.—Report to-morrow.

ARMY. PAy,

. The Report of. the Committee of Supply waq
brought up, relating to the Additional Pay of the
Army. ~
Gen..TillitETOlV thought that the Ca 'fry Offl
cer, ought to be included in this.. It was thougliti,
it appeared, that Cavalry Officers were generally
persons of some fortune.) But this yea* by7no ipezms
the case; and it was. to be considered that the dresi
and accoutrements of a Cavalry Officer were so
.pensive;that he must spend a year and a 404 p4y
before be could monnt.guard. "
The SECRETARY at IV4R said, that. the
tuation of the Cavalry Officers was much better than
Officers of the. same rank in thp 4ifantry. flea
however, observed, that it would be considered whe4
*her an additional two shillings a-day should be given
to any Cavalry Officer comManding a regiment,
General TAR LETON

The_SECRET,ARY at WAR theca moved pr; Amp*
meat in the Estimate for the 04icers' Widows, by
which 1001. was dedu&ed.

Colon6l WOOD did not know why such a gran
to the Officers of the Army IVQ.S made at all et thA
present time. It was so sinall that it would atforcl
but little satisfaalion. to the Army, and still was -a
great addition to the burcie"ns of_ the Country. ft
would not, therefore, Answer the objea which Go.,
vernment had in vie;o.
Mr. IVIIYDH4M said, that if we were to COilSi•
der the discontent on the one side, kind the satistact
tion on the o er, the result would be, that J.ve cOUld
dA n4thin:ip As to the satisfaetion of the Qt eers of
the Afrriv, it was aot done with a view to give thew.
satisfaetion. The obje& was the good .of the S,eryicr„
as, by this grant, , you might ,get many rne!otoTi,oi
kren who could not otherwise begot. • '

Colonel Waco explained.
Gen. PARLBTO AY 03(1, that /his Hon. Friend
..•
(Wood) had ohjek.ted.to this -ita;rease 4 g4s".9arti.,
cular time, when the Army was so /ase, 440 xv4ep
we were engaged in such 4 war- PlC.4.t
came, and he hoped that it would be-3 egrions Rue,
. then the addition would be: made. Burt if the_ pay.
Was granted, it ought to be extended to the c4y4fFy. ,
The *ICRETART A'r WAttexplained, after wwcilt
the Amendinent the Resolutions were agree,lo:
Mr. Hansard, Printer to the Rouse, presented
.A9count of the guence of Trintiog the Indiau
pers from the Ist of April to the 3914
Ordered to lie On the Tab e. -
AUDITORS'

-r ,

Lord HENRY PETTY moved the third rea4r?,s, cf
the Auclitnrs'
Mr. 1-1.;- .i.issoq proposed a clause to Terpedy .hg
deleits vouchers; vitlich Y!'?!ti alopted and added
the Bill by way of He then prop -T4 pot
clau.st ; Which was rejeaed as interfering witt?
exercise of a•prbper ciiscretiun in the TFe4.o.3ry:
'144? AQS Oeri Pr6PP.554 a ells 9 4.oi.uPg tag

rower orthz: Tr-eastyy as to the surcharges on Ac-

comptants.
Lord'4-1. PETTY
,opposed this, oti the grounds
above.' mentioned," and it was reje&ed. The Bill was
then read a third time, and passed.

PUBLIC HARBOURS.
Sir C. POLE moved the second reading of the Pub-
Harbour Bill.

Colonel WOOD said,- that there was a great deal
of private property conneCted with this Bill if it was
to extend to all the navigable rivers; and care ought
to be taken that no injustice should be done. But
he *onld not oppose the Bill till he saw .what. could
b 4 made of it in 'a Committee. In the mean time
he ask..xl, whether it was to be confined to the har-.
hours of Plymouth, Portsmouth, and Slleerness, 'or
to as far as he had before stated ?

Sir C. POLE said, that it certainly was not to be
• Confined to the King's harbours alone, but to extend
also to,all harbonrs fog commercial purposes. But
•it Would-not interfete in the least with private pro-
perty, as the object ‘lvas..only to keep the anchorage
- what it was ; •and this had been.judged necessary
fraro•what had'been observed as to the embankments
at Catiyater. •
_ Colonel. VEREKER wished that his Hon. Friend

had not Only:pioposed to prevent nuisances', but also

to remove them: He hoped he would introduce a
Clause to, remove the two' rocks that occasioned
6a niuOli iucoth'enic-nce at 'Limerick- harbour, which
might be done lit the expense of 20001.:
Mr. HUSKISSON,said that this could only be
done by a Petition to the

Lord HENRY PETTY was well convinced of
the importance of givibg facility to the commerce of
such a Port as tllzi:of Limerick. But the thing pro-
posed by the Hon. Colonel 'could not be done with-
out a grant of ,trooey in the Committee of Supply,
and to introduce it•here was altogether out .of the
question.
, .
Mr. FOSTER said, that as the Hon. Colonel had
now learned what Was the proper wav to proceed M
this business; he hoped he would not forget it in the
next Session. The Bill was then read a secondlime,
And ordered to beCoMmitted to-morrow.
The Irish ,Post Roads' Bill was committed. Seve-
raliAmendments were proposed and adopted.—Re-
port to-morrol.V.