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offence to the Noble Chairman, or to the other Members of/ House, and proceed with the public business already
ithe Committee, he would beg leave to say that he believed7Acommenced ; the other course was only to consider
the report of that Committee did not deserve the sane- k those measures which were absolutely necessary for carry-
tion of the House. There could not be a worse tribunalking on the public service, and for preventing any public in-
to adjudicate on private business than a Railroad Committee `r jury during the time which must elapse before a new Par- •
of that House. While the evidence was being given, orliament could assemble. Now, Sir, with respect to the
while the Counsel were summing up the evidence for and ',former of these courses, although I have no doubt that the'
i against the Bill, the Committee was generally very thinly.
.;.present Parliament would have considered the matter of the
attended ; but when a division was about to take place the. -Civil List in the fairest spirit of loyalty and devotion to the
Committee-room becamecrowded. He had been waited upon e public service, and that a provision would have been made
lby parties promoting this Bill desiring him to withdraw his most adequate for the dignity of the Crown ; yet in eon-
!opposition to it, and stating that friends of his would sidering that measure in conjunction with the other men-
be placed in serious jeopardy if the Bill did not pass. He ,:cures now before the House, it did not seem advisable that
,did not conceal from those parties the indignation he felt !we should immediately undertake that measure, and proceed 4
;at such an attempt at dictation. He would beg the ea the same time with those other important measures. tl
House to look to a statement of the estimates on which :Sir, the obvious objection which will strike every one as to
this undertaking rested. He would not advert to the evidence,
,proceeding in such a course is the expectation, the general
because he knew how unwilling the House was to hear extracts 'end prevailing expectation, founded not upon any advice or
read from the evidence given before Committees. The en- , any proposition which may be adopted by her Majesty, but
gincer in this case was a Mr. Miller, who might be a very elby a positive enactment of law declaring that a disso-
e able man, but who, it seemed, had not been over scrupuAllution should take place within a certain period. There-
lous in obtaining subscribers to this undertaking.—(Hear.)-`lore when the House should have proceeded to consider;
Mr. Miller was also the engineer of a proposed railway_the matter of the Civil List, and the various measures.'
to Stirling, a distance of 12 miles, and he would read an ,;,already under consideration of the House, two very cer-
extract from his evidence to show how little confidence the ;rain and inevitable evils would have occurred ; the one
House could place in any estimates made by him. The is, that a number of Members of this House, anxious
Hon. Member here read some extracts, for the purpose of A:- to place themselves fairly before those who had hitherto
"showing that the survey and estimates in question iT)been their constituents would have left the service of the
• had been prepared in a very hurried and careless-1 house, and would not attend here on measures of great
timanner.
manner. He (Mr. C. Bruce) would contend that the sole;„ public importance. The other evil, and which I think
'object of such statements was to induce parties to sub-4 ought fairly to be considered by the Sovereign and her
scribe. It ultimately turned out that the estimates were so ii Ministers, is, that Members attending here, and performing
inadequate that, at a meeting of the shareholders at :to the utmost their duties to the public, will be exposed to)
' Stirling, they resolved to forfeit their deposits, and the disadvantage which must occur—that while they are
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~.,i break up the Company, rather than proceed. He thought acting in the manner which they think conducive to the public
..1. that would be the best thing the present Company could do, be- interest, others will go before their constituents and represent
, cause it was evident that the estimates were very imperfectly ;iitheir conduct in a light that was unfavourable, while the
J, prepared. Mr. Miller stated that there were six millions cubic Member himself was unable, in consequence of attending
*yards of earth to be excavated, and there was a deficiency of this House, to clear his conduct from misrepresentation.
77,0001. in the estimates. He also assumed that there would -.Sir, I think this is a reason why we should not enter
be about half a million cubic yards of whinstone, and he or go on, upon matters which, considering the mea-
-: stated that he had bored two and in some cases four eesures already before the House, which amount on
feet for the purpose of ascertaining that fact, while this very day to upwards of 60 Bills and Orders of the
the other party had bored to the depth of thirty feet, Day, and accompanied with that, the consideration of the
and they ascertained that there was no whinstone to be : Civil List would protract the Session for more than two,
procured. This would occasion a further deficiency of ~. months longer. The question, then, is, what are those
i
2.0,000/.—(Hear, hear.) The Company had further 4questions upon which it is adviseable to call for the deciH
assumed with unparalleled hardihood that the tonnage upon Osien of Parliament, and what are those of measures whicl;
the traffic between Glasgow and Leith would be much -.s. we can postpone the consideration ?—(Hear, hear.) f
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more than could be reasonably expected. The Honour- -,have already stated that I think the alternative)
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able Member said he would refer to documents to establisliriis between going on regularly with the Session, and settling)
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agreed by a large majority to certain resolutions on the sub-
ject, in which resolutions the other House of Parliament corr
curred, I believe, without any, or with little difference of opi-
nion. The sense of Parliament has therefore been fully pro-
nounced on the claims set up by the Legislative Assembly o t
'
Lower Canada. It remains for us to introduce a Bill e-
bodying the resolutions to which Parliament has agreed ; and
enabling the Governor of Lower Canada to take from tbc_
chest of the Colony the supplies not voted by the House of ''<
Assembly, but necessary to defray the expenses of the civil
1 Government in the province. Sir, I should bo very unwilling
now, at the commencement of a new reign, to enforce a me!-
isure which, absolutely necessary as I think it to be, may yet bei
considered by some to bear a harsh and coercive character.
!think the Bill which it is my intention to propose may ultimately
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Ore only probably, I wish I could say only possibly, necessary.
p't But to me it appears to be absolutely necessary that we should
Jproceed with that Bill in the present Session of Parlia-
!ment. Introduced when it is so obvious that so large a ina-
ijority of the Members of this House are bound to support it,
%and when it is equally obvious that it will meet with no oppo-
zsition in the other House of Parliament, the Assembly of '
Lower Canada may be induced to consider the great import-
ance of such a declaration on the part of the Parliament of
Great Britain, that their claims and propositions are not con-
i.4iistent with the relations which aught to subsist between a co-
it oily and the mother country. It is scarcely necessary for rre
"to add, that I should most heartily rejoice if such should turn .$.
out to be the case, and that if, instead of persevering in thee-
inadmissible claims which they now make the House of A -
pembly, by advancing claims of a more moderate character, 4
should put an end to the existing differences, and should heal
the wounds which those differences have inflicted. But, Sir, 2:
when I say this I do not mean to retreat in the slightest de- i
gree from the doctrine which I have heretofore maintained on • .
t the subject. I hold to the various propositions which I have
'• heretofore advanced, and Parliament having declared their
k concurrence in those propositions, I hope the Assembly of
~ Lower Canada, animated by good and patriotic feelings,
will see the expediency of modulating their course. If
the Bill to which I have alluded were not to poss, it would -
be necessary that we should agree to a vote of credit for the
purpose of carrying on the civil Government and of paying
the salaries of the judges, as well as of discharging all the
arrears due in those subjects; such was to be repaid out of the
/
treasury of the colony. But I repeat that I think it our duty
Vito pass the Bill I have mentioned ; and that I hope that when
the Legislative Assembly of Lower Canada become aware of
1 • the proceedings of the Parliament of Great Britain, they will
not persevere in their present demands. There are some other
measures which we think it will be necessary to introduce in
- the present Session; and several Bills will also be called for,
for the purpose of continuing Acts that are about to expire.
Among the former it is the intention of my Right Hon
Friend the President of the Beard of Trade to bring in a Bill
to enable the Commissioners to carry on the surveys and maps

these facts.—(Cries of " Divide.") If Hon. Gentlemen;
iopposite:would,take his word for it and divide with him, bei
would not trouble them with the daails.—(LauAter.) Thel

the Civil List, and abandoning the great portion, or post-
poning the great part of those measures that ivill lead to
protracted discussions, and, above all, t, \rtv di

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iconnected with English tithes. I intend to propose, and Ido
'not anticipate any objection to the proposition, the appoint-
-4 of Ci 'ay - the subject of Church leases

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Hon. Gentleman read some part of the evidence, and said ac.
cording to it he was entitled to say the promoters of the Bill
came before that House with a most swindling statement.
Another ground upon which the House ought to pause be-,
fore agreeing to the Bill, was, that the Forth and Clyde
ICanal had been made not many years ago at an ex-.
imnse of 600,0001., the proprietors of which had not
yet received fifteen per cent. ; yet, this Bill gave the,
Railway Proprietors the privilege of running by the side ofi
the Canal, and taking from the Canal Proprietors thosel
(vested rights which they enjoyed under an Act of
Parliament. He believed that no Railway speculation
which had been so much opposed as this one was, had
ever yet received the sanction of the House. Out of
sixteen miles through which it runs, the proprietors oil
fourteen miles were dissentient ; and amongst them)
there were some whose property would be entire)]
spoiled by in some cases cutting off corners, and in others,
running through the middle of the policy. In order to
prove that there was another line of railroad proposed be-
tween Edinburgh and Glasgow, he would read evidence
given by Mr. Miller himself in the year 1834.—(Hear.)
The Hon. Member then read the evidence of Mr. Miller,
given in 1834, amid loud cries of " Divide, divide." From;
that evidence it was evident that Mr. Miller and Mr. Ste-t
venson had abandoned the other line.—(Cries of "
oh!) He regretted very much that he had felt;
himself called upon, as a sense of duty, to trespass;
so long upon the attention of the House, and he begged!
'leave in conclusion to move that the farther consideration;
of the report be deferred till that day six months.
The SPEAKER having put the original question and
amendment,
Lord WILLIAM BENTINCK rose to support the
further consideration of the report. He -considered thisl
measure next in importance to that of the Manchester and
Liverpool Railway. The people of Edinburgh and Glasgow,

_ to party is,
I do not think, therefore, that it would be advisable to
take a course in favour of one set of measures going on,
and postponing a number of others. The first of the
measures to which I allude, which properly belongs to,
the consideration of the House, is the Civil List. The
settlement made in regard to the Civil List at the begin.
ring of the late reign, has obviated many of the objection!,
formerly entertained against the intricacy and confusion
that had hitherto prevailed with respect to that subject.
I cannot but think, independent of the course of the,
discussion of the Civil List that questions would arise, andl
motions would be made, which would attract a consider-
able degree of attention both in the House and the country,
and take up. considerable time befere they would be Fatis-
'actorily settled.—( Hear, hear, hear.) The only propo-
ition it will be necessary to make was, that pro-
vision should be made by Parliament for defray-
ing the expenses that were usually incurred out of
the Civil List until the meeting of the new Parliament,
when the matter could be brought deliberately under its
consideration.—( Hear, hear.) With respect to the sup-,1
plies of the year, those supplies having been in great part
voted, we do not propose to depart from the ordinar)
course, but to go on with the supplies regularly, and to,
.wing them on upon the supply nights whenever therel
's an opportunity.—(Hear, hcar, hear.) It would also
be necessary to consider the Sugar duties with the vie,v
to their continuction, in order that the Bill might pass the
[louse before those duties expired. He would proceed nov,
to the consideration of measures which had been for some
time before the House. The measures of most importance
7roposed to Parliament during the present year were
those which related to Ireland. He did not think, con-
iidering, the great party differences that had existed, and
considering the great numbers that had been arrayed on the
me side and the other with respect to one of those measures,
viz. the measure for the settlement of the Tithes in Ireland,

ment of a ~ommittee on
order that that, Committee may collect and arrange all thk
evidence necessary with a view to its being submitted to the
consideration of a new Parliament, and thereby of saving
the time which would be lost if the appointment of such a
Committee were to be deferred until the assembling of that
Parliament. It will, as I have already said, be neces-
sary to introduce several Bills for the purpose of con-
tinuing existing Acts ; but it is not likely that thosr
Bills will provoke any observation or opposition. I have now,
Sir, and before moving the Address to her Majesty, which I
am about to have the honour of proposing, stated the course,
which her Majesty's Ministers intend to pursue with reference
both to those measures which are already before the House,
and to those new measures which they think it their duty to
introduce. On the whole, it is our determination to take
only those supplies and proceed with and propose only those
measures which can fairly be considered by the present Par-
liament, postponing the consideration of any proposition which
we think cannot be fairly and advantageously discussed in the)
present Parliament. I now beg leave to say a few words asi
to the principle on which alone her Majesty's Ministers will
be guided with reference to the measures to which I have ad-
verted, or to any others which we may deem it advisable to
recommend to the adoption of Parliament. We considtri
that during the last few years several measures of vast
portance, of a religious and of a political character, ha. o,
received the sanction of the Legislature. Of the former, tl.e
Bill for removing the civil disabilities of the Protestant Dis-
senters and the Bill for the relief of the Roman Catholics l
iwere the chief. Of the latter, the Bill for reforming the
representation of the people was the great and prominent)
'measure. Sir, there are those who, considering that thosel
measures are on the statute book, are willing that they should
remain there ; but who, having made a determined opposition
to them in their progress, although they are willing that they
should remain on the statute book, are not disposed to agree,
to any proposition which would carry them into effect. Sir,
in any such disposition we never can concur.—( Hear, hear.)
INVe shall always maintain that those measures were not
'tended to be barren; but that they were intended to be pro-1
U 'd K its

looked upon the measure as one that would restore tfem
to their former prosperity. He, like the Honourable)
Member opposite, had no personal interest in the
matter ; but he had the interest of the people
of Glasgow and Edinburgh at heart as much asl
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that it would be proper, -unless they were prepared to'
continua the whole business of the House, to bring
that measure further into consideration during the preH
sent Sesdon.—(Cries of " Hear.") There was another.
neasure with respect to which he had certainly had a great'

Iductive of fruits beneficial to the ,niteu _ingdom in a._
!future relations and administrations.—( Hear, hear.) When,
!you said that you would no longer impose civil disabilities cn
:the Protestant Dissenter, when you said that you would
no longer impose civil disabilities on the Romani
,Catholic,
_you said that, preserving all the just rights

the Honourable Member had that of the landowners
'of those districts. With respect to the complaints thel
Honourable Member had made relative to the engineers
and the estimates, all 11 had to say was that the Com-
, pany had selected three independent engineers to survey
the line through which the railway was to pass, and in
doing so, he believed they had conscientiously discharged
`their duty. As to the estimates, he believed they had been
made upon the most economical principles. He (Lord W.
A.) strongly supported the present measure. All
the votes he had given on the subject he had given,
conscientiously, and he hoped that therefore the House/
would proceed with the further consideration of the Bill. /
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Housel
idivided, when the numbers were—
Ayes
Noes
Majority 3
The Report was then further considered, and the Bill`
ordered to be engrossed.
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE—SIR J. GRAHAM.
On Lord J. RUSSELL moving the Order the Day for
taking into consideration the Queen's Message,
Sir J. GRAHAM begged the attention of the House.
for a moment while be made a few observations on a mat-
ter personally concerning himself. This was the first oc-1
casion on which he had ever complained of his conduct be-
ing commented upon in any newspaper, as he had always.,
considered that such comments might be fairly made upor4
any- person who took a part in public affairs. But:
'there was a circumstance connected with his demeanour in
that House last evening on which an undue interpretation
had been put, and he thought it due to himself and the
House that he should make some observations upon it.
In an Evening Paper, the True Sun, which he held in
his hand, there was an account of the Parlia-
mentary proceedings of last evening, and in that paper there
was the following passage relating to himself.—[The Hon.
Baronet here read the paragraph attributing to him disre-
spect, in not uncovering when the Royal Message was.
brought down by Lord John Russell. At the con-
clusion of which, several Hon. Members cried " Hear."]
The House would remember that the Noble Lord (J.
Russell) merely announced a message which he was ordered
to bring up. There was some confusion before the Speaker
began to read the message, and several Members on the
opposite side of the House had already taken off their hats ;
he, however, appealed to the Speaker whether it was not
according to the rules and old usages of the House, that
all should remain covered until they heard the word
Rex, or Regina, read from the chair.--( Hear, hear.) It •
had a better effect, and it was for that he had waited—the
insinuation that had been thrown out against him was most
unfair, and he could not, without compromising himself,'
avoid noticing it. It was easy to make empty professions
of loyalty, but when the hour of trial came, he would not
be found wanting in loyalty and respect.
The SPEAKER—The Hon. Baronet had stated the
practice of the House most correctly. The House would •
remember that on the bringing up of the message there
had arisen a considerable cry of " Off hats," and he had
taken the course he did in order to save the time of the
House.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to the complaint
made by the Hon. Baronet, he must say that no such con-,
duct had come under his notice.

wish to call the farther attention of the House, because'
it was a measure, the principle of 14 bleb had already re-I
e!eived general support, and was likely to receive the sanction'
of the House with respect to all its details—he meant,
the measure concerning the introduction of Poor-;
laws into Ireland.—(Loud cries of " Hear.") But as'
many Members of the House would be absent from their!
lutics, in the expectation that this Parliament would not be;
:)f long continuance, it would not be fair to the!
Members who represented Ireland to bring under the
!onsidaration of the House a Bill so materially affecting!
them, and which was so entirely new in that
dart of the United Kingdom, without having the benefit'
if their opinions.—( Hear, hear.) Therefore, although
with very .great relu::tance lie was compelled in,
fairness to Irish Members, to defer to a future;
Session the further consideration of that measure,'
he could not pass over that subject without recommending'
to all who took an interest in the question, diligently to peruse!
the report of Mr. Lewis, containing arguments on the sub-
ject that were founded on very great experience and great
,tnowledge, and enforced with a power of argument which he
thought had been hardly surpassed in any paper of that kind.
There was another measure with respect to Irish corporations,
—a measure founded on such clear principles, and so sup-1
Jorted by every thing that Parliament had done with respect
to other parts of the United Kingdom, that he would state'
then, as he should be always ready to state, his entire confi-
lence that that measure would finally be adopted by Parlia-
ment, and that the law in Ireland would be founded on prin.-,
ciples similar to those which governed the municipal institu-1
tions in England and Scotland. The other measures!
to which I will allude, oontinued the Noble Lord, and which!
have been under the consideration of Parliament, arc founded j
on the Report of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners for Eng-
land and Wales, and I wish to acquaint the House that it is not]
my intention to propose any Bill for regulating ecclesiastical
b mefices, or ask the House to go on with the Pluralities and
the Residences of Clergy Bills, and I feel myself the more
justified in this course, on account of the provision made last
year, which prevents dignitaries of the Church from disposing
f sinecures in Cathedrals and Churches till Parliament shall
take the whole subject into consideration. I have always con-
sidered that there was no question of more importance than the
moral and religious instruction of the people ; but as it is a
subject not pressing, and requiring mature deliberation, I
think it may be deferred without injury. There is another
subject which has been brought before the House, and, in my
opinion, prematurely brought before it. I mean the final pro-
position for the promotion of religious instruction in Scotland.
I have on former occasions stated that I thought the pro-
position a premature one ; and I now state, that I do not
think it a proposition on which we ought to decide in the
present session.— ( Hear, hear.) But, Sir, I repeat what I
have said on former occasions, that I am fully sensible of the
importance of the subject; and the House and the public may
be assured that the question as to the best means of pro-
moting religious instruction, and as to the funds by the aid
of which that object could altogether be best accomplished,
All form together a subject to which her Majesty's govern-
ment will pay the most serious attention. 1 am in hopes
that a part of the funds originally devoted to the mainte-
nance of the Episcopal Church in Scotland, but now not re-
quired, under the name of Bishops' teinds and fens, may
form some portion of the means for the purpose. The
House, however, ought to be in possession of some infor-'
mation as to the nature and extent of those funds ; and
the subject shall bo carefully considered, with a view to

of the Established Church, you 'Would provide that in
all the civil relations of life the members of different religions
should b?, placed in a situation of perfect equality. We consider,
it to be wholly inconsistent with the spirit of the measures which
have been already adoptcd on the subject-3n inconsistency
not shared by many in this House, but which has been too
frequently manifested by persons out of this House—to grant
civil privileges to persons professing one religion in preference
to persons professing another religion; thereby making thej
Established Church the object of extensive hatred and
and sowing dissensions, distrusts, and jealousies in every quarter'
of the country.—( Hear, hear.) We are of the opinion which
was expressed by William 111. " That religion is God's pro-
vince,
and that religious diff...rences ought not to be carried
into the civil relations of the State, or into the civil relationsl
of life."—( Hear, hear.) Of this I am quite sure, that the I
attempts which have been made during the last two or threcl
years to excite differences grounded on religious principles, to
disseminate ill-will and distrust among persons of different rely-)
gious persuasions, can never tend to form the foundation of
that united community which it is so desirable that the people!
of this great empire should become. In this country a great,
majority of the people are members of the Church of Eng-
land, but they are combined with millions of Dissenters ofi
various descriptions. In Scotland another class, formed ofl
Dissenters, constitutes the great majority of the people, and,
forms the Established Church, but of which the Queen is the
head. In Ireland there is a small minority of the members of
i
the Established Church, and a large majority of the professors;
of another Christian creed. Of all these classes the Sovereign)
of this country is the Sovereign. Of all these classes thei
House of Commons is the representative. Since the passing'
the Bill for relieving the Protestant Dissenters, since the pass-
ing of the Bill for relieving Roman Catholics, it can no longer
be justly maintained that differences of religious opinion ought'
Ito be rendered the source:of civil jealousy and distrust.—
( Hear.) If we wish this empire to be strong—if we wish it to,
be united—if we wish it to present an unbroken front to anyi
enemy by which it may be attacked, we can obtain that object!
,only by doing that which is not only not contrary to religion,'
but which is in strict conformity to the spirit of true religion—
!we can attain that object only by extending to those who, e..i
!though they differ from us in religion, have the same civil
interests as ourselves, the hand of fellowship ; by treating
!them with brotherly love and affection, by respecting thei
conscientious feelings of those who worship the same God:
as ourselves, although not exactly in the same form, and!
with the same ceremonies.—( Hear, hear.) With respect
to the other great measure which I have mentioned, the
Bill for reforming the representation of the people in
Parliament, while I consider it a final measure in one sense of
the expression, T do not consider that it is to remain a barren
and unproductive Act on the statute book, or that it ought 50i
to be followed by any other measure that may be thought cat!
culated to improve, to ennoble, or to advance the institutions
of this country.—(llear, hear.) So far am I from thinking
that it ought not to be so followed, that, on the contrary,
think it most accordant with the spirit of the Constitution tbet
such improvements should be proposed to Parliament, that
they should be deliberately discussei, and that if adopted theYA
should be adopted on grounds of public benefit ; and that iv
rejected, they should be rejected on the ground that they are
not conducive to the public benefit, and not from motives 0 !
bigotry or prejudice.—( HeLr, hear.) In that spirit, Sir, and
in that spirit alone, can we continue to administer the affairs of
the country. In that spirit, and in that spirit alone, we bald
!advised, and shall continue to advise her Majesty, who haffi
been graciously pleased to confide to us the responsibility 0
'directing the public affairs.—( Hear, hear.) lam quite aware.
that in pursuing this course we carnet pretend to expect tne
Qal eo- ,f the Members of this f the other

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ascertain whether by those funds, by the abolition of sin
MESSAGE FROM HER MAJESTY. universal concurrence of tue ~,,.....—.
House of Parliament. lam aware that or ot
Lord JOHN RUSSELL—Sir, In entering upon the.; cures, and by the disposal of Prebends, the means may not'e- '''. as other Administrations have been expolLed:htaollenbiesceoxnPs°trsuee:
tion of our motives, and misapprehension of our objects • but
question for this night's consideration, I will merely state. be obtained of giving religious insTtructiobnacir'enensetnoteaontdhetrhemeexal
4;:' we have accepted cur situations with the condition
,introduceditdoes into ;naturally belongs to them, and we shall be readyat
that lam quite sure that as a Member of this House e p 6 tension which is so desirable
surer respecting Scotland which have been
cially, the Hon. Baronet opposite meant no mark of diss-ree-S
pact to the Crown, but that he meant to comply with the : the House, the decision of which, however,to defend our conduct in offering to our gracious Sovereign thcl
precipitate in the presents
seem to us to be desirable to
usages of the House. I must say that throughout the -best advice which it is in our power to give. We know that'
session ; and there is one to the introduction of
whole ofthe proceedings of last night, there was one unanimous - . ,►in some cases we shall not experience the concurrence of per-
,„,,, House has agreed, but which has not been actually • itro- -
feeling of loyalty and resolute determination not to allow -.- . duced—l mean the Bill for the increase of the Judges'li sa-
:.,..,onts. who believe that they are more attached to the ancient'
political feeling to enter into the subject then under eon- 4-,1 ic „ ikinosoiwtuhtiet
better
srof the country than we are, or who fancy the t'
Advocate's•ithwhieh it is not my Hon. and Learned Friend the -
Isideration, namely, condolence for our late Savereign, and `+( Lordds—,
will
producet thantherwes do the effect which Liberal measur,c,s_!
intention to proceed in the present session.._
the paying a mark of respect to her Majesty, who now fills 1; My Hon. andyour
andßut we arc sure that the
forpcooint‘:;
Learned Friend has also other measures res- •-•;' of th country, 1
the throne. I now allude, therefore, to what is more a'', pectin-r Scotlandit was his intention to introduce. Of 1•• the best we Lgteon)romus t just, will give us credit ,
.dai
snarl
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ocelfsj
matter of political concern, and one which entirely regards if these he means t which
bring forward only those which have in . called by the Qt en to
we maythink proper, we shall always tender that advice
the advice which has been given by those Ministers in effect received the assent of this House, and the passage ofin thci
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which, therefore, through the House is not likely to be at- spirit
, in which alone it ought to be offered to any Sovereign,
(confidencewhom her Majesty has been pleased to repose her .is
tended with any delay. Sir, there are several Bills in r
dname of t
and with an anxious desire to advance the freedom, topre:i
with respect to the business which hasl
!Tress through the House which relate to the criminal lawP °-f;
thatloogthdeiss
Ito be done during the remainder of the Session.o
re this country. It must be allowed by every one that it is °a'
Any comments, therefore, which may be made on the pro-'
ceeclings which we have advised, will be comments fairl t/:matter of considerable importance that Parliament should de
Y Ltermine upon the definition of what specific crimes shall be'afo°rledstbhy: Lord
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address to the Queen similar to that moved in the liou'e 1° ;
made, not against the Crown, but directed against its Mr. FIUME rose, bit the noise occasioned by
advisers. Her Majesty's Message says :—" The pre- ..tßhiel l
ssuabrjee cotoot focfaapnature
punishment.calculated
occasionol opiniona tiy Hon Meamdubceerds ttohethiel door, for the purpose, the rush 0
sent state of the public business, and the period of '
cichuossion ; and, therefore, consiidering how material it is thatL:;- dinin. i
lthe session, when considered in connection with thebeing
esrtot o
dr esuhme ea
hinseat gotf up, about
those poisons charged with thef perfectly
of the ;,five minutes.g Silenceen}.;
'law which imposes on her Majesty the duty of summon- 'on the Noble
subject,ieritecits y
myatvioatreo of the opi- 1
f';expressed his wish to make some orbes;rvatiognasi
ling a new Parliament within a limited time, renders 41 !lions of Parliament on the intention t nto pro-)33 Lord's speech. It appeared by what had fallen from the
linexpedient in the judgment of her Majesty, that any t, pose proceeding with the Bills in question on the earliest day .t Noble Lord that in a few weeks that House was to sepair:tice,
ton which I may find it practicable to bring them forward. %yid'as'
(new measure should be recommended for your ado p-,:.,,lafter having sat four months without agreeing',
I shall be exceedingly glad if we may also find it possibl6t
tion, with the exception of such as may be requisite';`jos.exception, to any one measure of importance. He admitted 1 one
4-proceed with the Imprisonment for Debt Bill. There-e
for carrying on the public service from the closes that the course proposed by the Noble Lord was the on ya__
„another measure, Sir, respecting our colonial administration 0
of the present till the meeting of the new Parliament. thoatt could be adoted under the circumstances
the
the
of
t:4which is one of great importance, and with regard to svhicl:it h
Sir, when her Majesty's Ministers took into their cons.- ,:lEnc,iitawa-daswahat matterhad of grave consideratio_ncifroeroot!
isetanPces, and
II
..'i Lyecsbtorrdfaoyr eßvaetnhi nF, prolmised the Honourable and Learned Of this
deration the state of the public business in this House, svculd give a distinct answer to rit.;
what steps were calpeuroladtuecdedtothatesrttatietsof
recurrence.
conceived there were only two courses which could properlyquemstioen which he puta that
to
thesubject—lstate'quitesure,
assembly oi Lower Canada'.
°with parties balanced as 1 • w were the same results wool 1,.
t ley no . ~ de 0‘
ss,,the o%ernment of this'
respect to the Civil List, to propose a Civil List to th,, ;WandG ' country now stands. This House* 1 '•
,nfohow. This was grave con dcratiOn fci•imtii:lllloo'
we presour