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LONDON :
FRIDAY, MARCH 8, 18C9.

use of Lords last night, after a consider-
: of petitions were presented, Lord
inede a few observations against the Minis-
reelticg Railways in Ireland, and gave
e will oppose it strenuously, and will move
returns to show what money Great Bri-
-1 from Indent?, and what it did for Ireland.
et II eanwicaa adverted to the observe-
the E.,rl of MINTO made the night be-
-rine, statements of the Earl of
:E, tire official returns of
'e. A glee little squabble ensued,
"t=oo Noble Earls, as to the exact number
s end meats in the different doele-yards. We
believe the Earl of HARDWICKE must be
ofileees, isha must know better than he
; but at the same time we know
nee thet el-leers can make fatse returns,
ale and even falsify despatches. The Duke
TON '.7:tVC both the Noble Earls a smart
;aid that the country was carrying on war
a America with a peace establishment, ex-
aster and danger, and the two
were disputing whether there were one
ate teore or less in the dock-yard, while the
, at force of the country was unarmed and unfit
co:-.teva going forward: We were not before
of hi r 4 Grac:;s just rower of satire. His obser-
.i; th..! subject were also distinguished_ by his
good sense. The -Marquis of LANSDOWNE in-
.l at some length tirli our peace est3bliAwnent was
rior to any that we ever before had, and adequate
-INyoses. No ship had been sent. from Canada,
- place requiring ships, to Mexico. •The
et we were at war, and that it was not
a war with a peace establishment.
of a petition from Mr. LAWSON, we lire.
gee Timns, was not granted; end Lord LYND-
s', oho-plays second fiddle to that Journal, is to
e subject under the consideration of the House
The prayer, we believe, is to allow the
of the House of Lords to. depose to some matter
in the Court of Queen's Bench.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH and the Marquis of
i!TORMANTIr had ene of those contests about Ireland, en-
aveecd by a little crossing of the Duke of WELLINGTON
ael the Earl of CHARLEVILLE, which may be delightful
to share, but have now been so often exhibited to the
public, that ais heartily tired of them. The motion of
the Marquis of i'V'ESTMEATII was for an address
to the Crown for a copy of any memorial addressed to
the Lord Lieutenant of the Government of Ireland,
forth° liberation of Thomas Cooke from the gaol of
Mullingar, who had been convicted at the General Ses-
sions in March, 1837, and sentenced to fifteen months'
. After making some observations, and
:rine what could be said on the other side, the Mar.
is of WESTMEATH, as usual „withdrew his motion.
The House then adjourned.
In the Commons, after Mr. O'CONNELL had given
iotce of his intention to call the attention of the House
to Mr. EI•ANCONI'S attempt to get letters of deni-
zatien from the Tory Administrations, and Mr. HAP..
yea: Lad given notice that he will move for a
of all the persons through whose property the
~p,sed Irish Railway is to pass, Mr. SHAW moved
fir prpers relative to the state of Ireland, and drew a
lugubrious picture of the condition of that country.
According to him it is frightfully criminal, and for all
its crimes, the ruled, enslaved, and starved peasantry
are responsible, not the ruling and arrogant landlords.
SHAW'S speech was little better than a re-hash of
the diatribes of the Orange Tory journals.
Lord MORPETH wasted an army of good facts in re-
plying to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. lie happily
ridiculed the lamentation ofthe lion. and Learned Gentle-
tn an over the ruined state, declaring his party had nothing
to
do but appeal to the Sovereign, and then in a sup-
pliant
A eything rather than appeal to the direct verdict of the
Hense, and try to dislodge Ministers. Lord Moueent
eee no objection to the granting the papers, but en-
the supply, so as to show the condition of Ire.
t-e• Tory Governments ; and he undertook to
ei,l'eteaw that it was worse then than under
ii:' :37.'3 rule; that crimes were more mi-
en we outrageous. The Noble Lord read
.doe rs a lecture about their conduct, who for-
t! ti duties of property, and insist only on its
They exact from the peasantry the
armost earthing, and afford them no protection. On
ae contrary, as was lately proved in the cese of Lord
Loa:Tote, they unroof their cottages, and turn them
nouseless and naked on the world. They grind rent
out of their bones and marrow, and then, diseased and
::.'estie rite, they turn them off their land to
wretchedness
tad death. This sorrowful and lament,blo theme was
reated in the usual party style, neither of the two fac-
ens daring to relbr to the real cause of the misery of
c Irish, but talLiree about conspiracies—the conspiracy
starvation—and Ribbonism, and the Catholic
'gion, and the atrocity of letting men out of gaol,
keeping them in never did any good, occupied the
c whole evening. The public is weary of these
;lves about the condition of Ireland, which
ate nothing except the rabidness of party spirit, and
in nothing except ilia loss of temper on both sides ;
e. the theme is fruitful of declamation, it allows of the
,Display of ciecnence, and therefore, the talking Mem-
bers of tin Hou,e of Commons, expatiate very fre-
quently on the state and condition of Ireland. As the
motion w. s cot oppoecel, there was no object in dispute,
hut Hen. 2,:embers talked as much as if sorno victory
_ eta;tied by argument.
After speectles of some length from Mr. O'CONNELL,
r:RGEANT JACKSON, and other Members, Colonel
eee moved the seljournment of the debate.
Lord Joliet RUSSELL stated that he would not .op-
pose the adjournm'ent, btit he would certainly move
the second reading of the- Irish Municipal Corporation
Bill in the first instance, and afterwards propose the
unrniite.e of Supply. The adjournment was then

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~ the Ilacze adjourned at Two o'Clock.
Tio rr:ore carefully ve examine the official state-
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~Icii have been made in and out of Payrlia-
... re3prc!ing the actual condition of cur Navy,
iaie. ic•ss grcuilds do we Perceive for the vaunted
,-:,t,(:oipla(eney with which Ministers are in the
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this question. It was well
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