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Justice to distinguished foreign officers, who had with great
credit spent the greater part of their lives in the service of
„their country. In 1815 a Bill had been passed to enable
foreign officers to attain superior regimental rank in our
se"ice. By some technical objection this was held to ex-
clude three distinguished foreign officers, one of %%horn was
Baron
had Tuyl, from the benefit of the late brevet. The Bill
a subsidiary object, to legalise enlistment of foreigners
into our service to a limited extent.
.Sir H. HARDINGE trusted, as part of tl7, object of
the Bill was to do justice to meritorious lind distinguished
officers, that his Gallant friend wq,kild not persevere in his
, !amendment, as he could d() to when the Report was
trough t up.
The Bill then went through Committee, Ivitbout
4rnendrnent, and the Report was ordered to be received
this day.

THE .
Colonel SIBTHO RP B
wiUshDed G
toET ask a question of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer on a subject about which the
greatest anxiety was felt in the City. The Hon. Member
was proceeding to make some observations, when
The SPEAKER said the Hon. Member was not in
order. There was no question before the
House, and it
was not competent for the Hon. and Gallant Member to
go into any argument. He should confine himself to the
question lie wished to ask.
colonel SII3THORP said, then he wished to put two
questions to the Chancellor of the Exchequer. First—
wbttlier or not he meant to bring on the Budget at all ;
second! • if he did, when he intended to bring it
forward?
41The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—The
on. and Gallant Member had put to him two questions.
"0
the former, whether he intended to bring forward the
"ndget at all, be answered yes ; to the question, when he
meant to do so, he was not then prepared to give any reply.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at Half-past One o'Clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNE 15.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack
at Five o'clock.
Sir H. PARNELL and other Members of the House of
dill, brought up the Dundee Police Bill, the Bath Gas
'pill, the Durham Junction Rlilway Bill, the Wark worth
Harbour Bill, and the Grand Junction Railway Amend-
ment Bill,
The Marquis of DO WNSHIRE reported the Belfast
Harbour Bill with amendments.
The Duke of RICHMOND moved that a message be
lent to the Commons for a Copy of the Report of the
Committee of that House last Session on prisons.
Lord RAYLEIGH presented a petition from Chelms-
ford in favour of Church-rates.
Lord BURLINGTON presented petitions in favour of
a Lord's Day Bill.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from St.
Pancras against the Necropolis Cemetery Bill.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY begged that the
Noble Lord near him would postpone till Friday week next
the, second reading of the Bridlington Harbour Bill, as the
documents he had moved for had not been laid on the
table.
The Earl of HAREWOOD said that the production
of the papers could make no difference in the consideration
of
the Bill, and he would therefore go on with the Bill to-
morrovr, if
permitted, by the House to do so.
Marquis of LONDONDERRY said that the
0",. °le Lord would best consult the interests of the people
the North of England by consentineo the postponement.
The Earl of HAREWOOD then consented to the
Postponement till to-morrow week.

POST-OFFICE BILLS.
The Earl of LICHFIELD, in proposing the second
reading of these Bills, said that he did not anticipate
ITY opposition, as the measure was to consolidate
the 150 Acts by which the Post-office business was now
regulated The object was also to assimilate the laws in
England and Ireland.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH did not intend to oppose
the Bills, but it seemed to him that they had not been sub-
mitted to the heads of departments. He referred to a com-
munication between England and India, which he consi-
dered was impossible, as the rate of postage to Egypt was
so high, and that to India by the Cape was so small.
The Duke of RICHMOND said that it. was out of the
Power of that House to interfere in any of the clauses re-
lating to the taxation of letters. Ho thought, how-
ever, that the high rates of postage tended to en-
courage fraud.—(Hear, hear.) There was a provision
in the Bill also, which would bear hard upon the
trustees of Roads, for as according to the Bill mail-coaches
went free of tolls, and as it was proposed to send letters
by stage-coaches, it would be hard if they should go free
of toll also. He contended also that there should have
been a clause introduced to repeal the halfpenny extra pos-
tage in Scotland. He should like that the Bill be referred to a
Select Committee out of which it would come much im-
proved.

Lord ELLENBOROUGH wished to know if there
was any clause in the Bill to charge extra postage on a
double letter ?
After a few words from Lord HADDINGTON,
The Duke of RICHMOND said that what he meant
,was that he desired that the whole of the tolls should
by paid by the Government.
Lord HADDINGTON agreed with this view, and
had When in the other House proposed a measure to this
effect.
Lord BROUGHAM said that the reason why this had
not been agreed to was, that in Scotland it was felt that
the tolls would amount to more than the additional half-
Penny,
Lord LICHFIELD said that the objections made in
rbyeference to the communication with India would be met
Pthe arrangement made by Government with the East
odia Company. In reference to the additional halfpenny,
did not amount to the tolls paid ; and in respect to
'double letters, the 26th clause provided for extra payment
for them.
Lord ASHBURTON said that the consolidation of the
Post-office Acts would render future changes in the system
1:ore simple and easy. He objected, however, to the enor-
mous amount of the rates of postage, and he thought they
abettld be reduced.
Lord DUNGANNON said that, in respect to referring
toe Bills to a Select Committee, he had no objection
where it was practicable that such a course should be
adopted ;
but in the present case, if the Bills were
altered, they would be thrown out by the ether House.
7—(l-lear, hear.) In reference to the rates of postage,
it was the intention of the Post-office to reduce them.
The Earl of LICHFIELD said that where letters were
sent by a circuitous route there would be no extra charge
made. With respect to the revenue of the Post-office he
begged to say that there had been no falling off, but an in-
crease, as would be seen from the following
Gross Revenue.
return :
Years. Net Revemw.
1827 £2,278,412 £1,484,164
1828
1829
1830
1831
1832
1833
1834
1835
jn 1836
respect to Mr. Hill's propositions, they were the most
wild and visionary he had ever heard of : it was a fair ques-
tion whether the rate of postage would not admit of some
reduction, and the revenue not suffer from it.
Lord ASHBURTON said that the Noble Earl, like all
other postmasters, looked on the post-office as a means of
taxation rather than, as a great engine of civilization and
commerce. He would contend that the increase of letters
"old be itumense if the rate of postage were diminished.
After a few words from the Duke of RICHMOND,
the several Bills were read a second time.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY and the Bishop of
GLOUCESTER presented petitions against the abolition
of Church-rates.
di Lord SEGR AVE presented a petition from the guar-
sof union in Gloucestershire, praying that the land-
r(„s of small tenements might be rated, and not the tenants.
lAa he Marquis of I3UTE presented a petition from a
.re,e in Ayrshire against travelling upon Sunday.
Itter FITZWILLIAM wished to know from the Noble
•
84,..quis what party or what animal offended against the
3,,,thlth by the railway engines running upon Sundays ?
Marquis of BUTE, without concurring in the
full petitions petitions confided to him, such as were respect-
A$ Y Worded, he felt it his duty to present to Parliament.
I to the
" animals" that were worked by railway engines
Sundays, he considered that they were the individuals
7Ployed about the engines.
WAR IN SPAIN.
rft'ruhe Marquess of LONDONDERRY would state that
the ;irity of that House condemned the mode in which
ceha ar was conducted in Spain—a majority of the public
•enthed it, and he know that a majority of Europe
,:elrantly lamented the unfortunate war in which they
tritei etngaged, and which Aid no honour nor credit to the
tisl arms; but which he, in common with every Bri-
tv.sti sold;
i or, must lament. It was with these views that he
,:ed to know if the same system 'was to be continued ;
tiwhether efforts would still be made on the part of his
cstY's Government to raise a new levy, or to have a new
e(!.l.°P and whether they were to be supplied with all tbe
""ogencies of war—whether they were to have arms,
ammunition,had and artillery, supplied to them—things that
, already cost the country half it million of money ; and
t,:tust say that, looking to the economy of the country, if
tilie success of Don Carlos should ultimately occur, whe-
tishr means had been taken of having refunded to the
Public that which was thus expended ? He wished to
nnerstand if the same system was to be carried on, and if