The Sun.
London, England, 1839-03-01 00:00:00

EAST INDIA SHIPPING.

A RRIVALS.—Her Majesty's ship Wolfe, Stanley, from
the East Indies, at Portsmouth, sailed from Madras, 29th
August, Trincomalee, 27th October, Capeof Good Hope,
4th January, Ascension, 27th January: Diadem, Walker,

from Bengal, at Liverpool,-sailed, Calcutta, 25th Jul;,
Saugor, 4th August, Mauritius, 30th October, Cape of
Good Hope, sth Dec.; Sultan, Pool, from Singapore, eff
Margate, sailed 28th October, St. Helena, 7th January ;
and Science, Rowland, from the Cape of Good Hope at
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i :Cowry, sailed 2d January, St. Helena, 14th January.
1 ARRIVALS AT ST. HELENA.-Nickerie, Bunnemeyer,
Jan. 7, from Batavia, sailed Bth, for Rotterdam ; Alex-
mdre, Margotin, 7th, from Bourbon, and sailed 9th for
Nantes; Lady Raffles, Biles, 7th, from Calcutta, and sailed
9th, for Lcradon ; Meedon, Hogg, Bth, from the Cape, and
sailed, 10th, for London ; Richard Cunning, Pain, Bth, from
'Calcutta, sailed 10th, for Liverpool ; Dortcnaar, Martens, 8,
from Batavia, sailed 9th, for Rotterdam; Mary, Frazer,
, Sumner, 8, from Singapore, and sailed, 8, for New York ;
Sir John Rae Reid, Cumming, 8, from Mauritius, and
sailed, 10, for London ; Adolphe Fanny, Villebogard, 8,
i from Bourbon, and sailed, 9, for Bordeaux ; Cambrian,
. ' Paul, 0, from Mauritius, and sailed, 10, for London ;
Queen Mab, Ainley, 10, from Calcutta, passed for Liver-
,,' pool ; Solide, Canncva, 10, from Bourbon, and sailed, 10,
1 or I3ordeaux ; Pionier, Barjal, 10, from Madagascar and
i ,rtape of Good Hope, anti tailed, 10, for Nantes ; Melrose,
I N:„;,-,1son, 10, from China, and sailed, 10, for London ;
1 pa 1,,,,, Piancert, JO, from Mauritius, and sailed, 10, for
London ; Cre:..fe. .13c$14'!WP
10, from Bourbon, and sailed,
! I
0, for Bordeaux ;
A:2,,,u,thi, ..„,::,s, 10, from Batavia, and
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sailed, 10, for Amsterdam;
.BrOtherg, .IL•pmpson, 10, from
Timor, with 1800 barrels of oil, bound to Lo don i Con-
' conlia, Kohue, 11, from Singapore, and sailed, 1,1.; for
1 Hdrnburgh ; Jcune Lance, Lannes, 11, from Calcutta,
1 and sailed, 11, for Bordeaux; Stoningtou ( A), Rue, 11,
1 from whaling, for New London; Seid, Said, Mauclerc, 11,
1 from Batavia and Bourbon, and sailed, 11, for Nantes;
Glet,arm, Grut.iber, 11th from Manilla and the Cape, and
I sailed the 12th for London ; Ann Maria, Middleton, 11th,
1 from Whaling, for New London ; Apprentice, Casen-
t head, 12th, from Mauritius and the Cape, and sailed the
t I,2th for London ; Sunda, Greig, 12th, from Calcutta, and
!niter; the 13th for London; Isabella Cooper, Currie,
12th, Coo Calcutta, and sailed the 14th for Liverpool ;
Blakely, liuJrnes, 12th, from Calcutta, for Liverpool ;
1 Oratma, Watson, 12th, from the Cape of Good. Hope,
! and sailed the 12t11 for London ; Norfolk, M'Gildoconay,
If th, from Mauritius in 28 days, passed for London ;
George Wilkinson, Brown, WI, for Bombay, and sailed
f :be 12th for London ; St. George, Crawford, 12th, from
' iaritiug, and sailed the 12th for Livoapool ; William
Parker, 13th, passed the island ; Swallow, Witteye.embe,
13th, from _Vozamb4ie and Cape of Good Hop. pasiiej 1
for London; Onyx, St:we-Ai, 14th, from whaling, cth
i 500 barrels of oil.

DEPARTURES FROM ST. HELENA..—Th. Robert Sure-
cold, Danvillie, Jan. 8, for Nantes; Amelia Thompson,
I. Dawson, Jan. 9, far Amsterdam.
lARRIVALS AT MAURITIUS.—The Calypso, Smith, Nov.
3Q- and Atlas, Hunt, Dec. 2, from London.
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1 ARRLYALS . . .
" AT THE CAPE OP Goon HOPE.—Her Ma-
ljeety's ship Jupiter, Dec. 26, from Cork and Rio Janeiro ;
Swallow, Wiribycombe, Dec. 29, from the Mozambique ;
1
'lope (steamer), Cox, Dec. 30, from Algoa Bay, in fifty.
four hours.
VEv;Ets SPOKEN WlTll.—Tbe George Wilkinson,
4, Livcrocoi to Bombay, Jan. 30, lat. 4, 49. N., long. 26.
24. W. ; aitinarm, Grueber, Manilla to London; Jan. 31,
tat. 6. ~,,q). N., long. 28. 11. W,; Duncan, Wardle, Jaya
to , Feb. il, lat. 29 22 N., long. 43...9• W. ;
1 INF.11!on, Hogg, Cape of Good Hope to London, Feb. 13,
lat. 32. 56. N., long 42. 313, W. ; Favourite, Robinson,
1 Calcutta to Liverpool, Jan. 22, off Ascension, by her Ma-
-1 jelty's ship Wolfe, arrived at Portsmouth.

The Harriet, Rockwell, late Jewett, bound to Boston,
has put into Tobermony, leaky, and with loss of sails, &c.,
the Master, second mate, and four of the crew drowned,
off Burra Head, in endeavouring to obtain assistance from
the shore.

UNEXPEOTED DISCOVERY OF JEWELLERY
IN A BALLA49 HEAP. —On Friday morning the workmen
employed in removing the ballast heap at Howden, for the
purposes of the Newcastle and Shields Railway, discovered
a quantity of jewellery, consisting of gold and silver
N etches, snuff-boxes, dessert spoon and knives, rings,
earrings, sod other articles, wrapped in flannel. During
I the day as much of the property was disposed of as
Possible. A gentleman of this town, returning from
I Shields, learnt the particulars, and suspecting from the
-circumstances that it might probably be the pro-
! Pony which was stolen some years ago from the shop
r)f Messrs. Wright and Co., immediately on Ms ar.
royal at Newcastle gave information at the Police Station,
and some of that body went down on Saturday morning
to investigate the matter. They have succeeded,
f tv!e understand, in obtaining possession of severe! ar-
zles ; but nothing like the quantity that had been found,
he difficulties they had to contend with were very
treat so much so that th we re threatened by
tishier. ,wwo_rkmcn if they 'persisted in retaining the property.
to right has also been very industrious in trying
identify any part of it which might come under his
oscrvation and was yesterday at Shields for that purpose.
It is a singular fact connected with this matter, which we
have been put in possession of, that on the day after the
above-named robbery took place, upwards of a hundred tons
of b4last were deposited upon the heap in which the ar.
tidies were found.-- Tyne Mercury.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, FEB. 28.

The LORD CHANCELLOk took his seat on tho Woolsack
at five o'clock.
Lord RIPON presented a petition from the Deanery
of Ripon in reference to the state of the Church in
Canada ; also a petition from the inhabitants of
Ripon in support of a National System of Edu-
cation upon the Church of England principles.
Likewise petitions from different parishes in Lincclnshire
against any alteration in the Corn-laws.
The Earl of SHA FTESBURY presented a petition
from Sherbourne, and also from another parish, against
any alteration in the Poor-laws.
Mr. Crafer presented papers from the Treasury.
Mr. Dawson presented papers from the Board of Trade.
The Earl of HA DDINGTON presented a petition
from Linlithgow, and also one from Newburn, in the
county of Fife, praying for Church Extension in Scotland.
Lord ABERDEEN presented petitions from Berwick-
upon-Tweed, Lauder, Paisley, and a great many other
places in Scotland, praying for increased means of in-
struction in that country.
MURDER OF LORD NORBURY.
Lord CHARLE VILLE said he wished to call the
attention of the Noble Marquis opposite to a paper he held
in his hand. He had hitherto most anxiously avoided
making any allusion to the murder of the late Lord Nor-
bury. He did so, in the first instance, from being
unwilling to allude to that subject in the absence of the
Noble Marquis. He had avoided alluding to it since the
return of the Noble Marquis, because he had been
anxious to have certain papers through his hands be-
Eire he brought the circumstances under the attention
of the House—( Hear, hear)—and it was not now,
though his duty compelled him to enter into it, his
intention to venture into any particulars which he could
possibly avoid ; hut after having read this paper, he felt
that he should be guilty of a great dereliction of duty if
he were not to call the attention of the Noble
Marquis opposite to it, and to ask him either
to confirm the statement he (Lord C.) was about to make,
or to refute it if in anything he uttered he was incorrect.
He could only state facts as they came within his own know-
ledge, and to them he should adhere. He was the first
Magistrate who arrived on the spot after the murder ; and as
far as his information went, he could declare that no such
insinuations or reports as were contained in this pape
reached him then, nor up to this hour, from any
decent or respectable source, or any source worthy of
the slightest credit or dependence. He had hoped thLa
the remarks of a Noble and Learned Lord upon the first
night of the opening of this Session would have put an end
to those slanderous imputations about some well-formed shoe
or some neat-heeled boot; but notwithstanding the refutation
that was offered in some other assembly—notwithstanding
the explanation there and then given, he found in a Dublin
Newspaper—whose circulation might not be very exten-
sive, but from its supposed connection with a certain indi-
vidual its opinions were calculated to have and to create a
strong impression on the public mind in Ireland—he found
on Wednesday last, the 20th of February, in that paper, a
repetition of those statements, rather in an aggravated
form, perhaps, and changing the insinuations against an in-
dividual to some mysterious allusion against others, but
still repeating the statement, and repeating it in a
way that now called for some explanation. The
paper he held in his hand was the Pilot Newspaper.
The knowledge of this paragraph had come to him (the
Noble Lord) by accident, and he had been fortunate
,nough to procure the paper itself. The article to which he
desired to call their Lordships' attention was as follows
But there is an object at the bottom for the party. The
fact of the well-made shoe goes to disprove the slander of
the factious Lords on the poor people of Ireland. Its object
is to intimidate the Liberal press from stating the facts by
imputing to it the adhering by that statement to a libel on a
Nobleman. We shall not be thus intimidated. The cha-
racter of that Nobleman stands too high to be impaired by
a statement that an assassin wore a neat shoe, or by any
general statement about reports, or by the insidious
commentaries. * • * • We repeat the assertion
—the assassin, whoever he was, wore a well-made boot,
or shoe, not a brogue. Yes, it can be proved, and will be,
whenever there is a trial. The pattern of the shoe sole
was taken ten minutes after the murder by a respectable
person, upon whose authority we state it." He begged,
in the presence of their Lordships, to contradict the entire
of this statement. But if that fact were true,
he would ask if anything more convincing could
be recorded to prove that a conspiracy did exist in
Ireland ? If this respectable person, within ten minutes,
prepared with tracing paper, took a pattern of this foot-
mark—if his ends were honest—if his intentions were just
—if it were not a pre-formed and a pre-arranged
plot, he would ask why no Magistrate was informed
of the circumstances ?--( Hear, hear.) Why did not that
individual, whoever he was, appear before the Coroner's
inquest ? If he was told that that inquest was not fairly
chosen, he would say that several gentlemen—he was not
aware of the precise number—but several gentlemen holding
the strongest and most liberal opinions, were members of that
Jury ; several leading Roman Catholic gentlemen of great
respectability were on that Jury. He (Lord C.) attended
that inquest. Within the Court, and without it, they
called, and repeatedly called, and inquired if any one
was there prepared to come forward with any evidence.
No one did appear, but the paper went on to state—and to
this he wished to call the Noble Marquis's attention—it
stated, " the policemen who visited the spot in the
morning all stated in the hearing of several persons, whose
testimony we can procure, that whoever did it wore a
well-made shoe or boot, small at the heel."
The Marquis of NORMANBY—Does it state one or
more policemen?
The Earl of CHARLEVILLE—It is several. It
states the policemen. " This we state upon positive
authority. It is the fact. The assassin of Lord Norbury
wore, we believe, a well-formed boot or shoe, and not a
brogue." This was in large Roman capital letters—" We
charge no one—we insinuate nothing against any one—
% e cannot formally accuse any one—we only say that there
have been various reports, to some of which we have
given circulation. We disclaim having directly or indi-
rectly charged any one with the murder. The Mail
threatens us with an action. We give them perfect liberty.
Our reporter will be our evidence." He believed that per-
son was the informer upon the occasion. " He can state
who was and who was not called. Curious things
must come out. Lords Oxmantown and Charleville
may get a sifting but we shall stand clear." He was
the first magistrate who arrived after the murder. The
first words he spoke were in giving an order to the chief
constable of police, who was in attendance with a large
force of men, in order to take possession of all the ave-
nues leading to the spot. The orders were given by him
in his capacity of a Magistrate. Up to that hour he had
never heard from any authority the slightest in-
sinuation or ground for that most extraordinary
statement. The Noble Marquis being then the Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland sent down to investigate the cir-
cumstances attending the murder the Provincial In- ,
spector of Police, attended by a Stipendiary Magistrate,
namely, Mr. Hill. If the policemen knew any thing of
the circumstances, they might have no confidence in
him ( Lord Charleville), but surely they must have confi-
dence in their own officers. He knew that confidential

Reports were sent to the Irish Government, and the Noble

_ .
Marquis could correct him if his impression was erroneous.
He begged again to state, that he had no object in address-
their Lordships, except to give the most distinct
denial to these statements, in order to tranquilize the
public mind in Ireland; for he knew it had been very
much distracted upon the present occasion. He did not

1,,,2nt at all to punish the Paper, or in any way to call it to
account, but he begged to set these imputations at rest, for
he knew that the topics were brought forward with the sole
object of keeping iitt,picion from alighting upon the real
perpetrator of the crime.—( Hear, hear.) Having such
an object in view he thought that ho was justified
in troubing their Lordships. He trusted that the Noble
Marquis might be enabled to put an end at once and for
( ver to those, in his opinion, InObt false and absurd reports.
He was, perhaps, the; first person who visited the spot
on the morning of the mnreler. He saw nothing
to lead him to suspect any such report to have foun-
dation. The identical tracks of boot-marks which
e44d been described by the Pilot were, no doubt,
the tracks 1440 4.Y himself, as he was on the spot, probably
within the ten minute aii,e,dod to, Later in the day he
was engaged in the examination of wittiossc.s. Other
Magistrates attended, and ordered a plan of spot to bp
taken by the Clerk of the Works and the surveyors in at-
toloUnre. fie did tell a friend of his upon the occasi )n,
a Learned ocw.lemp,n, that if any track was made by a
well-404e boot, it migh; hive been made by the boot of
Mr. Toiler, tl.'2 second son of bcrd Nprhury who was
then upon a visit id his fathor.—( ifear, hoar.)
(4. system of warfare now was cai•rving on upon all the'con;.
stituted authorities of Ireland. It was not long ago that it
was stated in a Newspaper of that country that the murder
was committed by policemen in disguise. Tot the same
Paper contained an admission that the policemen warp
generally of very good character.
The Marquis of NO RM ANB Y—What is the question
which the Noble Earl wishes to ask?

The Earl of C HARL WVILL E—Whether any infor-
mation has reached the Noble Marpis whiph at all inclines
him to suppose that the marks which were found upon the
vot correspond with the description I have alluded to ?
The iferquis of NORMA NB Y said he was sorry the
Nob:e. Earl' AID4iOI 1)4114 occupied so much time in
reading a long article which by (the Marquis of Nor-
manby) had never seeti. But 148 would answer the
question of the Noble Earl to the !lest of his power, reserv-
ing anything he might say upon the condudt of the investi-
gation, and the zeal and activity of the officers employed
and the co-operation they ought to have received, till a
future and more fitting occasion. The question was whe-
ther any information had been received by the Go-
vernment tending to confirm the suspicion that
there was seen a foot-mark corresponding with
the boot or shoe worn by one of the higher orders.—
Ile had no hesitation in informing the Noble Earl that
he bad never received any information which could have
led him to believe such a circumstance in Ireland
possible, till he heard what had been reported in
the public papers with regard to a statement
of an Hon. and Learned Gentleman in another place
the of there was such a foot-mark it must be attributed,
to the cause which the Noble Earl had now stated. Mr.
Brownrigg, the Provisional Inspector, employed in the in-
vestigation, had been constant communication with
the Government. He (the Marquis of Normanby)
htd asked him whether he believed it possible that
such a foot-mark could have been observed by any person
without his having perceived it. Mr. Brownrigg replied
that he had never heard of such a thing till mentioned by
an Honourable and Learned Gentleman—that he (Mr.
Wownrigg) bad investigated everything, and that hp
bad never observed any such circumstance. That such in-
formation could hare been given by a police constable
was impossible, because an office-A- in that corps would,
recording to his duty, have doubtless cornmk:ricated
such information had he obtained it to the Chief Con

stable, by whom it wc,uld have been communicated to the
Stipendiary Magistrate, and 47 hint to the regular
Government authorities.
Lord LyNDHURST then rose and said—My Lords
I am tlC,flirQlls of puttiig "pestion to the Noble Viscount.

Lord BROUGHAM—Is it about the present ques-
tion?
Lord LYNDHURST—No.
Lord BROUGHAM—Then I just wish to explain
that I did not, as it has been stated, commit such dis-
respect to your Lordships last Tuesday, as to leave the
House without putting the motion of which I gave notice
—it was put before I went.—( Hear, hear.)
APPOINTMENT OF LORD EBRINGTON.

Lord LYNDHURST—My Lords, I am anxious to
put a question to the Noble Viscount. At no distant day
the Noble Lord, who has been appointed to the office of
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, stated, in reference to the
Irish Tithe Bill, that though he did not approve of that
measure he should support it, because he considered the
effect of it would be to render the war that was then waging
against the Protestant Church in Ireland more formidable.
My Lords, the direct and necessary inference from these
words is this, that the Noble Lord who uttered them is de-
sirous that the war then waging against the Protestant

Church in Ireland should continue, and that it should be-
come of a more formidable character, and I wish
to ask the Noble Viscount whether, when he re-
commended the Noble Lord to that office, he was
aware of the observations to which I have refer:ed ; for, if he
were, the state of things in Ireland, with reference to
the Protestant Church in that country—aye, my Lords,
and as to the Protestant Church in England—is disbearteu-
ing, indeed.—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") My Lords,
the natural consequence of the appointment is that the
Noble Lord should be desirous of giving effect to those
sentiments, that he is desirous that the war waging against
the Protestant Church in Ireland should continue and assume
a more formidable character. My Lords, the whole influ-
ence of the Irish Government, one must naturally suppose
under such circumstances, will be used for the purpose of
stimulating that war, and giving it such a formidable
character— ( Hear)—or if the- Noble Lord is restrained by
the obligation of his oath, to which I beg to refer the
Noble Viscount, still it would be supposed by those who
have been engaged in that war, that by pursuing it with
inveteracy they would be acting consistently with the
wishes of those at the head of affairs in that country.
—( Hear, hear.) But, my Lords, there is another in-
ference which will inevitably be drawn if the Noble Viscount
answers my question in the affirmative. That inference is
this, that the Noble Viscount himself has adopted these
opinions, and it will amount to a declaration of war on the
part of the Noble Viscount against the Established Church in
Ireland—and I will add, against the Protestant Church in
this country. I ana desirous, therefore, of putting this ques-
tion to the Noble Viscount, that he may have an opportunity
of making the necessary explanation, and, if possible, of
removing the alarm, which I can tell the Noble Viscount
has arisen, from these supposed words. I wish to ask
the Noble Viscount whether, when he recommended
the Noble Lord to tie Lord Lieutenantcy of Ireland, he
was aware that the Noble Lord had made the observa-
tion to which I have alluded.--(Hear, hear.)
Lord MELBOURNE—My Lords, in answer to the
question of the Noble and Learned Lord which refers to
a debate that passed in the other House of Parliament—
( Hear)—l beg leave to say that lam not aware of every
expression or every sentiment which may have fallen from
any Noble Lord upon the subject of the Irish Church, and
I do not know that I was aware of that peculiar passage—
if he uttered it—which has been attributed to him by the
Noble and Learned Lord. But lam perfectly aware that
my Noble Friend has always been friendly to the measures
which we have introduced for the purpose, as we conceived,
of strengthening the Irish Church ; and I am perfectly
aware that the sort of imputation which the Noble and
Learned Lord has upon this occasion cast upon my Noble
Friend, were the imputations which were cast upon us for
those measures ; and I also know those imputations to be
utterly unjust, utterly without foundation. And therefore,
though I do not know if I was precisely aware of every
sentiment which my Noble Friend has uttered, yet at the
same time I beg leave to say I was perfectly aware of my
Noble Friend's opinion on this subject; and I think there
is nothing in those opinions which unfits him for the high
office to which he is about to be appointed by her Majesty
—that there is nothing in those opinions which gives any
ground for the alarm which has been expressed by the
Noble and Learned Lord, or the inferences which he has
drawn from this appointment.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE—I never, on the whole, have
heard a more unsatisfactory reply than that just given by
the Noble Viscount (Melbourne). My Noble Friend
(Lord Lyndhurst) did not ask whether the Noble Viscount
appointed to the Lord Lieutenantcy of Ireland is supported
by Government, but whether he has supported the measures
of Government by steps which lead to something more—in
fact to nothing else than the ruin of the Protestants of Ireland.
(Hear, hear, hear.) I have the honour of the acquaintance
of the Noble Viscount, and I believe that he deservedly
enjoys the esteem and regard of all who know him, and for
his sake I am sorry that he is going to Ireland with
that speech affixed to him—for the inference deducible
from those expressions were of a most dangerous
character.— (Hear.) Let us not deceive ourselves, my
Lords, upon this point, It is not irregular to allude to
what has been spoken in the other House. The Noble
Lord goes to take upon him the Government of Ireland,

with the expressions attached to his name which must ex:
cite the jealousy and fears of every Protestant in that coun-
try, and the hopes of every Catholic, by encouraging him to
think that under the Noble Viscount's Government he
would be nearer the object of his wishes. I regret this ap-
pointment, not so much for the sake of Ireland as for the
Noble Lord.—( Hear, hear.) With respect to the Go-
vernment who has appointed him the inference is, that
their act is a clear proof that the measure which they pro.
posed with respect to the Protestant Government in Ire-
land, is not intended to be a final measure.----( Hear, hear.)
The Marquis of WESTME AT H entirely concurred in
what had fallen from the Noble Lord who had just sat
down. He was of opinion that another Administra-
tion like that of the late Lord Lieutenant, would
materially endanger the institutions of that country. The
Noble Viscount now appointed should remember that he
was the trustee of our youthful and inexperienced Sove-
reign, and that he went to govern a country which was in
so inflammable a state that the addition of another torch

would explode a mine that would cause her Majesty to
lose her third Crown. As an instance of the dangerous
use which was made of her Majesty's name by certain par-
ties in that country, he begged leave to read a placard
which be had received from the county of Westmeath on
Tuesday last. The notice was to the effect that a meet-
ing of the Precut-For Society would be held at Castle Pol-
lard on Sunday the 24th, at one o'clock, for the purpose of
extending a branch of the Society over the Barony of
Dennycour, in that county—" God Save the Queen"—
( Hear, and laughter)—thereby associating the name of
her Majesty with those of her enemies whose object was
to impose on the credulous, ignorant, and unfortunate—but
amiable people of that country, who, if they were under
proper government, would not be subject to the agitation
which disgraced them in the eyes of Europe, and in which

the present appointment was too likely to.cOntinue them.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE thought that the
question put had been satisfactorily answered by the Noble
Viscount. He begged leave to add his testimony to his
Noble Friend regarding the Noble Viscount who had been
appointed to the government of Ireland • and if ever there
'
was a man who enjoyed the esteem, the respect, the at
tachment, the confidence of all who knes him, it was the
Noble Viscount who had just been appointed. So far he
concurred with the Noble Lord opposite ( Wharncliffe),
but his deduction was quite of a contrary character ; and
so far from its being a matter of regret to him, it gave him
great satisfaction to see the Noble Viscount, possessing
such extensive confidence, selected by her M ijesty for
the important trust of the Lord Lieutenantcy of Ireland.
In this somewhat irregular conversation in which your
Lordships have been engaged, in consequence of a ques-
tion put, it has been attempted by the Noble and Learned
b;rd to select some phrase reported to have been used by
the Noble Viscount, but reported only, I know not with
what truth—l know not when it was—l know not
whether correctly stated or not, for the purpose of
creating an injurious impression against the cha-
racter of the Noble Viscount, and endeavouring by
imputations to damage the character—to damage the name
with which he goes to Ireland to administer impartially
the government of that country. Now, my Lords, I say
that is not just, and I say that I shou'd appeal in justification
of her Majesty's choice, not to any expression selected
and picked out for that purpose, but to the general
character of the Noble Viscount and his attachment
to the Constitution of the countay—( Hear, hear)—to his
character and his attachment to the Church to which he
i4elongl, and to his moral character in every respect point-
ing him eut as adapted for that situation. And, my Lords,
I must say that lf there is a Noble Lord in this flow.° who

I should think was interested in any particular expression
used in one House of Parliament, not being selected
and made use of in the other without its context, as a dis-
qualification for office—l should have thought it was that
2;lohie acid Learned Lord.
Lord, LYNIMII44T—I beg to assure the Noble
Marquis, with all due siibmission, that X tim not ashamed
of any expression I have ever used eiiher in 'this or
the other House of Parliament.—( Hear.) I know the
ey.etepOot to which the Noble Marquis alludes, ar,4
I have over. and Oyer again qplained Hear. )1 pe'r'fectly
the Noble IVlarqnis!s allusibn; and 1 am not
ashamed to have used that expressinn.-.411ear.) 'll4,
Noble Marquis charges me with having made en attack
upon 1,4 e Of the Noble Lord, but I said
nothing whatever of the geheral character aod eondact
of the Noble Lord. I alluded to certain expressions
of a very marked character, which he was said to have
used in the other House of Parliament, as the foundation
of the question which I put to the Noble Viscount. The Noble
Marquis charges me with having exercised ingeauity on
this ciccasion, but there was no necessity for it—they were
distinct—that they were uttered, I am quite certain—
because I took great pains to inquire into the fact. I find
them in all the most correct reports of the Noble Lord's
speech. They are verified by the statements of persons who
were present—(Hear, hear)—and, I may add, that imme-
diately afterwards they formed the subject of observation
and commentary to a Noble Lord, a distinguished member
of that House. lam confident also that the Noble Lord
will not deny that he uttered these words. What were
these words ? The Noble Lord said he did not approve of
the Bill itself, but he should support it—on what principle?
because he was satisfied that the effect of it would be to
render the war then raging against the Protestant Church
in Ireland more formidable.—( Hear.) What inference
could be drawn from these expressions, but that the war
should continue and that it should be of even a more for-
midable character? It is on
that I place my finger, and I
ask whether it is proper in the present state of Ireland,
—notwithstanding the high character of that Nobleman—.
notwithstanding his high principles as a Protestant—whe.
ther it is proper to place at the head of affairs a Noble Lord
whostated publicly his desire that the Catholic war now raging
against the Protestant Establishment in that island should
continue to be waged, and continue with a character still
more forroidah!e than it has yet assumed. Is it not fair to
infer that the Noble Lord is desirous of carrying into effect
the policy which he encourages and approves, but if the
Noble Lord finds himself restrained by the obligation of the
oath I„,hicb, as the first Minister of the Crown in that country,
he is obliged to take, is it not natural that all those per.
sons who were endeavouring to pull down the Established
Church will feel that their exertions are secretly counts.
uauced by the Government, and that they wish the war
ShOula be carried on with increased ferocity against the