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Lion, prayed the House to present an address to the
Crown, imploring her Majesty to extend her Royal
pardon to these unfortunate prisoners.
SALE OF SPIRITS (IRELAND) BILL.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee on
this Bill.

On the motion of the Earl of WICKLO W, the 9th
-clause was struck out. -

The other clauses were then agreed ite House
resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received on
Thursday.

The Assaults Ireland Bill went through Committee,
a clause having, on the suggestion of the Earl of
GLENGALL:been struck out, which prohibited Jus-
tices of the Peace from deciding oil cases of assault
when questions of disputed right to land were involved.
METROPOLIS POLICE COURTS BILL.
Lord DUNGANNON moved the further conside-
ration of the Report on this Bill.
Lord BROUGHAM moved, as an amendment, that
the 2d, 3d, and 4th clauses be omitted,—the Biii
going to propose at this lwe period of the Session, an
entiroljr new organization of the police of the metropo-
litan districts.

Lord LYNDURST—And to give the Secretary
of State the power of charging the country with
27,0001. additional expense.
Lord DUNCAN NON admitted that, but said the
amendment would prevent any improvement in the me-
tropolitan police system.
Lord BROUGHAM—UntiI early next Session,
when the Government should consider the question
deliberately.—(Hear, hear.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR suggested that the
Noble and Learned Lord's amendment ought to be con-
fined to the 3d clause, as the 4th clause related to the
filling up of vacancies only, and if it were to be.
struck out there would be no power to fill them up.
Lord BROUGHAM agreed to the suggestion,
and accordingly confined his amendment to moving the
omission of the 3d clause. The Gallery was cleared for
a division—
For the amendment
Against it - 3O
The clause was lost by a majority of
The following clauses, to 38 inclusive, were agreed
to with slight amendments.

Lord BROUGHAM objected to clause 39, relat-
ing to masters and servants. It, proposed to introduce
a totally new principle into the law affecting masters
and servants, and at this late period of the Session, it
ought not to be entertained.
Lord WYNFORD agreed with his Noble and
Learned Friend. This was an attempt to alter the law
in a way that had never been attempted before.

Lord' LYNDHURST wished to know if this was
proposed for the benefit of the master or of the servant ?
Lord DUNCANNON said for both.

The Earl of WICKLOW said that the principle
proposed by this clause might be new in this country ;
but it certainly was in accordance with the present law
in Ireland, end as he had always advocated a similarity
in the laws for the two countries, he must confess that
he was greatly in favour of the clause.

Lord L YNDHURST said that vve might endea-
vour to assimilate the laws in Ireland to those in Eng-
land, but it would not do to adopt the principle of as-
similating the laws in England to the laws in Ireland.
—(Hear,.hear' and Lsughter.)
Lord DUNcANNON said, that after what had
transpired, if their Lordships should think it was too
late in the Session fully to consider this clause he should
not press it.
Lord LYNDHURST said, if the Noble Viscount
would introduce it into the Bill he no doubt would
bring in next Session, relative to the matters that had
bt.en thrown oat ti s Session, no doubt the House would
thr_a fully consider it.—(Laughter.) .
Lord BROUGHAM was afraid that that would be
rather a large BiL.—(Renewed laughter.)
The clause was thin withdrawn. And all the clauses
having been gone through,
Lord WHARNCLIFFE proposed a new clause,
the terms of which he read.

Lord LYNDHURST objected to the introduction
of this clause at this stage. His Noble Friend ought
to have it printed, and then propose it upon the third
rending of the Bill. •

Lord DUNCANNON said the- clause just pro-
posed had been proposOd up stairs, and had been very
well considered.

Lord LYNDHURST said it might have originated
in a private arrangement between his Noble Friend and
the Noble Viscount, but he knew nothing about it. He
had never seen it. He bad only heard it indistinctly
read at this moment, and could not undertake off-hand
to consent to it.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE could assure his Noble
and. Learned Friend that the clause arose out of no pri-
vate arrangement between himself and the Noble
Viscount opposite, but still he believed the more regular
way would be for him to have it printed, and to move
the introduction of it upon the Bill being read a third
time, which he should adopt.
Lord BROUGHAM thought the clause a most be-
neficial one.

The Report was then received, and the Bill was or-
.dcred to be read a third time on Friday.
SLI A NNO.N NA VIGA TION.
The Shannon Navigation Bill rvas read a third time
and passed on the motion of Lord DUNCANNON.

The Report of the Dubin Police 13111 was brought
,up and agreed to.
CONSTABULARY (IRELAND).

The constabuiary Force (Ireland) Bill went through
Committee, and the Report was ordered to be received
on Thursday.
The Judges' Lodgings. Bill was reported.
Lord PUNC A N NON moved the committal of the
SheeP-Stealers' (Ireland) Bill.
The LORD CHANCELLOR could not allow this
Bill to go through another stage without calling the at-
tention of their Lordships to the effect of its provisons.
It made sheep-stealing punishable by a penalty of .5/.
which was contrary to all principle.

_ .
Lord. BROUGHAM concurred in what had fallen
from the Noble and Learned. It was monstrous to
visit sheep-stealing in one country with the punishment
only of a pecuniary fine, while in this country it was
formerly visited with .death,--at the • present day with
transportation.
The Bill then went through Committee, and on the
motion of

Lord BROUGHAM, the report vs'as ordered to be
received that day three months. •
The Bill was consequently lost.
IDOLATRY—INDIA.

The Bishop of LONDON. then rose to move for the
following papers :—Copies of so much of any despatch
sent by the Court of Directors to India since the Bth
of August, 1830, as related to the abolition of taxes in
India, connected with religious observances of the
natives, or to the employment of Christian troops in the
religious procession and festival of the natives. A copy
of the, memorial sent to the Governor-General from the
Presidency of Madras on the subject of the attendance
of Christian troops at the religious processions and festi-
vals of ,the natives, together with the appendix to
such memorial. Also copies of the despatch of the
18th October, 1837 to the GOVeraor-General in Coun-
cil, No. 14, Revenue Department, and' of Sir Peregrine
Maitland's letter thereon to the Court of Directors,
tendering Lis resignation of the command of the,
Madras army, and of his seat in Council. The Right'
Rev. Prelate considered the question to which the
papers related one of most vital importaneeto the per-
manency of the dominion of this country in the vast coun-
try to which theme! s referred. nose who did not agree
with him upon this subject considered that moving this
question would have the effect of placing the em-
pire of this country in the East in jeopardy. He
thought if the question was not agitated and
the system was allowed to go on, it would be much
more likely to shake it. He could not believe that that
Government did its duty who encouraged the continu-
ance of idolatry. If the question was one of observing
perfect neutrality with respect to the East, he should
be the last man to discuss it, because he felt bound to
hold that the way to impede Christianity was to offer
violence-in its support. But, at the same time, he held
it to be their duty as Christians to do nothing which
would encourage the continuance of idolatry and
superstition, still less sanctioning such a prac-
tice. He believed the country at large was but
little acquainted with the state of things in India.
In the year 1833, the Court of Directors sent out a
despatch, which would have entirely cured the evil,
and have rendered it unnecessary for him then to trou-
ble their Lordships, but it had never been carried into
-practice. After three years nothing had been done, and
then the question was taken up by the Court of Pro-
prietors, who unanimously called upon the Directors
to take steps to have the despatch carried into effect,
but the Court of Directors merely said they had sent
out a Commission for inquiry as to the connection be-
tween the Government and the religion of the natives.
No doubt that information had been obtained, but it
had not been laid before the public. Another despatch
was sent out, but in place of progressing, it actually re-
trograded, for it continued the compulsory attendance
of the troops upon idolatrous worship. In two of the
Provinces only did the Government actually interfere
in and assist the worship of the natives.' In the large
provinces of Agra and Bengal there was no compulsory
attendance of the troops ; there was no sanction of the
idolatrous worship by the Government in those pro-
vinces. Why should not the same principles apply to
the provinces of Madras and Bombay ? That system
which was good for .50 millions of natives was surely both
good and safe for 20 millions, and as it was evident
that it might be safely ttied, it beeame the duty of a
Christian Government to put it in force. He was quite
aware that he would be met with the old and hacknied
excuse, that the troops were not obliged to attend in
honour of the idols, but - as a guard of honour upon the
native Prioces, the Rajahs but the Hindoos them-
selves denied that position, nor was it true, because the
troops were obliged to fire the salutes at the very
.moment. the idol passed... Nay, more, we obliged our
CliristiatArtsOps -to do thst-from 'Which we excused the
Mahemedlin troops. in our service. He insisted
that we Ought to leave the- native religion to itself ;
would--eots-its sitery----manner persecute them, but