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TRAINING BILL.

The Report of the Committee on the Training
Bill 'was brought up. On the question that the
Amendments be read a second time,
Sir HENRY .21i/LD;II.4Y observed, that whe-
ther the reports about negociations for peace were true
_or false, it was certain that we ought to have a consi-
derable force on foot. -A general damp had been
thrown upon the spirits. of the Volunteers. But he ob-
je&ed to this measure, first, because it could not be
carried into execution without the grossest breach
of faith to the Country. He had supported the
Bill of tBO3 on account of the state of affairs at
that time. But a solemn pledge had been given to
the Country that the provisions- of the A&. should
not be enforced if a certain number of Volunteers
enrolled themselves. This Bill violated the pledge
so given. He opposed the. Bill also on another
principle—lt was a heavy tax on the poorer classes,
which it had been the policy Qf the Noble Lord op-
posite (Petty) to exempt as much as possible, and to
make the burden fall on the rich. He also objea-
ed to it on account of the injustice of its opera-
tion. Why was it not extended to Scotland ?
Were the Scotch not to he trusted, or were their
Coasts not exposed to invasion ?—Scotland ought
certainly to bear its part of the burden. He ap-
proved of the Ballot, but as to the Constable 'he
could not see what could be the use of such a per-
son at the drills. He concluded by moving that the
word now should be left out, and the words this day
three months, substituted in its stead.
Mr. EYRE obje&ed to the Bill because it was
unnecessary. We, ought only to resort to compul-
sion in the last instance--Cunaa Arius tentanda.—
At present we could have a sufficient number of
Volunteers. He adverted to the injury which the
labour of the Country would sustain from withdraw-
ing such a number of men from it for 24 days in
the year. As to the Volunteers, he believed they
would be completely destroyed by this measure.—
The Volunteers relieved their Distritits ; but under
this Bill the System would have a contrary effed,
for the young, the aEtive, and those who had most
time to spare, would avoid the Ballot by going into
the Volunteers, and leave it to fall upon others.
The Right Hon. Gentleman complained of having
been misrepresented. It might be so—but how
could he explain away the sarcasm in • this Bill,
which reckoned 300,000 Volunteers as nothing ?
This was one sarcasm on the Volunteers which he
could not by any ingenuity explain away. If, how-
ever, he adopted the Clause proposed by the Right
Hon. Gentleman below (Yorke), which went to
relieve the Counties from the onus in proportion to
the number of Volunteers, his, obje&ions would be
' in a great measure done away.
Mr. WILLIAMS asked, whether, in the pre-
sent situation of the Country, we were to give Mi-
nisters no credit for saving five millions in three
years ?—This measure did not destroy the Volun-
teer System, but put it on its original footing=--for
it was well known that at first the Volunteers were
only accepted on condition of- clothing themselves.
Much as' he regretted the loss of the late great Mi-
nister—much as the Country had to lament him—
much' as he deplored his death yet, while 'the
measures of the present Ministry went to promote
economy and the real interests of the Country; as he
thought they had, for the ,most part hitherto done,
they should always have his warm approbation and
cordial support.
Mr. FONBLAN-QUE thought Ministers entitled
to the Thanks of the Country, for this measure, and
denied that it was calculated' to break down the spi-
rit of the Volunteers, who, on the contrary, must
be encouraged by the exemptions which it proposed
in their favour, and by the aid which it promised to
afford them in the common object of all—in thede-
fence of the Country.-
_ _ . . .

Colonel BASTARD conceived , this measure pe-
culiarly obje6tionable, inasmuch as its expence and
oppression were incalculable, while the prospe&
of good from it was quite vague and indefinite.—
It proposed to substitute a visionary System of De-
fence, undirected by military skill—unsupported by
local influence, for those Volunteers who had ac-
quired the advantageS.of the one, and who, as in
the case of the- Corps commanded by the Duke of
Northumberland, evinced the power and efficiency
likely to be deriVed from the other.
General LOFT US, feeling that if our Army
were treble its present amount it would be in-
sufficient for the, defence of our widely-extended
Coast ; approved of this measure as highly calcu-
lated to augment our means of safety, particularly
in the event of invasion.
• Mr. MATHEWS considered the measure before
the House as unnecessary and injurious. It was
singular, he observed; that Gentlemen on the other
side talked of the expenditure .of millions as. of a
matter of insignificance,. and yet they rested upon
economy as the great recommendation of their
course of proceedings with respe& to the Volunteers.
The Hon. Gentleman remarked upon the facility
with which the present Ministers contrived to change.
their principles with their places.
Mr. GILES vindicated the character of the mea-
sure under consideration-, to which, he maintained,
the charge of involving any breach of faith towards
the Volunteers was totally inapplicable. This asser-
tion the Learned Gentleman sustained by referring
to 'the Levy en Masse A&, from which the charge
Was professedly deduced, and also to the Circular
Letter from the Secretary of State, which was pub-
lished subsequent to that A&. From both he in;
ferred, that nothing like-a permanent pledge was
given that if a certain number of Volunteers offered
for'any distria, ..such distri& should be pniformly
exempted from the operation of any measure of
the nature before the House.

Mr. RYDER-contended,. that the operation of
this measure would he to reduce the Volunteers to
a state of degradation and inefficiency. The deli-
cacy lately professed for that gallant body, which
led to a certain Clause of the Bill before the House,
procepded entirely from a desire to redu,- some
part of the unpopularity attaching to this measure,
and by no means from any =pea or esteem for
those Corps.
. Mr..C.I#YNNE replied to the last Speaker, and
maintained, notwithstanding all the House had
heard of local influence, that the people who should
be, called upon in the hour of battle would go forth
with much greater,alacrity Under the command of
persons whom they should know to be versed in
„military business, than Under:the direaien of those
with *liom they 'might 'happ,Nl 19 be peisonally ac-
quainted or locally. wnnetsl4, .
.11, '•

Sir R. LAIPLEY had souse Clauses to propose,
which he had no doubt would be very agreeable to
the Volunteers, as they had in view the arrange-
ment and improvement of their discipline.
The SPEAKER suggested to the Hon. Baronet,
that this was not the proper ,time to propose such
Clauses.

Lord KIRKW4LL asserted, that the opinion
which the VoAtinteers- had been naturally induced to
form, as to •the views of the Right Honotirabie
Author of this Bill, had served materially to damp
their zeal and diminish their numbers. In support
of this assertion, the Noble Lord stated, that he had
the honour to command a Corps of Volunteers,
which- consisted, of 460 strong and effeetive men,
twelve months ago, but which at the last muster rem
turned no more than 80. A similar redu&ion was,
he apprehended, to be generally, looked for, from
the language and projects of the Right llon. Se'
cretary. L _ _

Lord DE BLAQUIERE could not imagine any
thing more absurd than the proposition of an effi-
cient Levy,.for which neither Officers nor adequate
instru6ion was provided.
Lord. BINNING called upon the Learned Lord,
on the Ministerial Bench (the Lord Advocate of •
Scotland), who was not present on a former evening
when this measure was under discussion, to state his
opinion upon the propriety of extending it to Scot-
land. If there was any benefit in the measure, the
Noble Lord could not conceive that; upon any prin-
ciple of fairness, Scotland should be refused a parti-
cipation of it ; and if it were a burthen, he did not
think it fair that it should be confined altogether to~
England. There were many parts of Scotland to
which this Bill would be as applicable as to this
Country, and there was no danger of its meeting
any such opposition as the execution of the Militia
Law formerly did. But that opposition was not, in
fad, the effect of The' Militia, but of that disaffec-
tion to the Government which, he was happy to
think, was now no more.

The LORD ADVOCATE was .surprised at the
line and tone adopted by his Noble Relation, who
had just sat down,' and those who acted - with him.
They. maintained that this measure would involve,
a breach of faith, and an invasion of the King Pre-t
rogative ; would be produdive of great expence and
oppression ; yet, said they, " give dshare of this
abomination to Scotland." They had been abusing
the Bill for some weeks, asserting that it would lead
to confusion and pull down the Volunteers ; and
yet, With all their professed regard for Scotland and
the Voluteers, they would have the scope of its opera•
tion extended. As to the opposition to, the Militia
Law, which had been alluded to by his Noble RelaN
lion, and which had been asserted to proceed, from
disaffeaion, he was not disposed to come into that
opinion. He was aware that disaffection was often
stated to prevail very generally in Scotland, and that be
himself was deScribed as one of the disaffected. But if
he was disaffected then, he was so still; for he held no
principle at that time, which now, in the King's
service, did not remain perfectly unchanged, 4nd
.they should ever continue so. But to return to the
opposition which at the outset the Militia Law met
.in Scotland—that opposition did, in fact, arise from
the general misconception prevailing of that Law,
and the pride and arrogance of some persons in that
Country, who would not condescend to cotnmuni-.
cate with the lower orders, and explain to them it,
object and pro Visions. If that .Law bad been pro,
perly understood, he ventured to say that it would
have experienced no resistance whatever. In the
distria where he resided' the' Law was fully ex-t
plained to the lower orders, and therefore it was.
carried into execution without any attempt even, aC
opposition.—With regard to the Bill under conSil
sideration,
,the Learned Lord confessed himself
anxious that its principle should be extended to
Scotland, and this opinion he had already commu-
nicated to its Right Honourable Author. But yet
he would not desire the Present Bill to be so ex,
tended, as in many of its parts it was inapplicable
to that Country: he would rather wish to bring in
a separate Bill upon the subject ;_ and be would
pledge himself to prepare such a Bill in 48 hours as
should be perfectly adapted to Scotland. The
Learned Lord asserted, 'that the former Levy e 4
Masse Ati was quite, imprgticable in Scotland;
and he concluded with pronouncing a high eulc.-,
gium upon the condu&, disposition, charader, and
efficiency of the Volunteers of Scotland,
Lord ,BINNING explained.

Mr. CANNING congratulated that part of tlia.
Country to which the Learned Lord belonged on
the, spirit with which he had declared his readiness
within forty-eight hours to prepare for Scotland a
Bill to the effe& of the present,, which, though the
solitary measure of that great Government—of that
concentration of talent of which they had heard so
rniach—had occupied them four months in. digest...,
ing. He begged of the Learned Lord to redeem
his pledge, and not to be the first Lord Advocate of
Scotland who transaEted business in the slovenly
manner pra6tised by the English Government for
the last four months. The Hon. Gentleman then
proceeded to contrast the present Bill, with the Levy
en Masse A&, Which.it was intended to supersede,
and, in every particular in which they differed, gave
the preference to the latter.
The LORD ADVOCATE Of SCOTLAND expiainea.
Mr, IVINDHAM, after alluding to the topic to
which the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. tanning),
and those with whom he a6ted, never ceased to
resort, and in which their observations were so uni-
formly unmixed with spleen, assured the Right Hon.
Gentleman, that, while the subje& seemed to af-
ford such inexpressible delight to those on his side
of the. House, it did not cause to him (Mr. Wind-
am), or his friends, the smallest mixture of pain.
He' proceeded to shew that the measure was not so
immediately called for in Scotland, either from the
danger whiCh menaced it being less, or from the
circumstance that the excellence 9f the V-olunteurs
in that part of the Kingdom rendered it more secure.
He then answered the different cbje&ions to the
measure in order, particularly remarking on the
disingenuousness of imputing to him the fallipg off
of the Volunteer Force in this Country, when in
fa& it was alone attributable to the voluntary con-
tributions being exhausted, and to the disinclination
or want of ability on the part of the original contri-
butors to renew them.
Mr. R. DUA7DAS hoped that the Learned Lord
(Advocator) before the House rose, give no-
tice of his intention, lc defiance of the opinion
d 'the Right Uonour4ble Secretary, to bring in a

dill, extending the measure to Scotland, it being,
be was convinced, Ole Aviih of every Gentleman
beiOnging to that Country that such should be the
case.

The LORD iIDPOCeITE did. not Onderstand
what the Von.iGentlethan ,meant by dpfiance. He
came there as.a Member of that Honse, to do his
duty and declare his opinion—n6t in defidnce to the
opinion of his Right Hon. Friend, or any other per-
son. From w hat he understood it was not the wish
of the Right Hon. Secretary to oppose the measure
being extended Co, Scotland,; and with this under-
standing, by which the honour of his CountrY
could not suffer, while at the same. time, from the
near approach ,of harvest, little progress could be
made in the Bill in Scotland, even were it to
be carried thrOugh
.this Session, he thought there
could be no harm in declining now, on the 3d of
July, to bung iii the Bill till next Session. ,
Mr. Rost, jnn: supported the Ameudnient.
The question was then very generally 'called for,
and the House. divided Oh the question—That the
word now stand part .of this Bill : upon which
it appeared chat there were Ayes 139--Ndes 53
.-11,1ajority 86. •
The Arnendinents were consequently agreed td.
Some new Clauses were Added by way of riders to
the the• third reading was 'fixed for this
day (Friday).—Adjourned at half after one o'cloCk.

MAILS.
AR&IVED—I Waterford. Dug—, Hartiburgh; 3 Gotten-
burgh, Dublin, t Waterford.

PRICE OF STOCKS
• THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK.
Consols . 641 1 Qtrinium -

- 7.

THE•SUN:

301.31,4 QUIS DYCIItt YALSUM A61:1&41.T ?

LONDON,
VarbAY, 'JULY 4, 1606.

THERE was yesterday a very considerable Auetua-
tion in the Fund's. i Oraniunn rose in the morning
to and left off at This declension was -not
- the 'consequence of any intelligence; but ptoceeded
merely, ftom the anxiety Of those- who had pur-
chased Steck to realiie profit. It was yesterday
confidently reported that the PrelinfinarieS of Peace
bad aEtually been signed ; while Other reports stated,
-that Lord HotainiNri or Lord LAUDERDALE was
to set out for Parit iii a few days. While so
many persons are so deeply interested in the
keit:unions of the FundS at this juneture, the
Public must expe& to hear every day freSh ruz-
h:MLitt; Calculated- to answer the purposes of the
parties by whom they are circulated: We have
ready stated; that a Negotiation is at present pending
between the two Countries, and when we 'add,
that the Nogotiation is, carried on :by Great Bri
tats in conjunolion with Russia, it must be obvioili
that the proceeding's cannot be' carried on with go
much- celerity. as the sanguine eiPeetations of some
persons lead them to suppose. We have reason to
believe that Foreigners are at present eMployed in
speculatiOns
_in our Funds, particularly in Paris, and
we must, of course, expe& to have many artful
rumours afloat in order to promote 'their. pro-
je&s: Some expeEtations seem to have arisen 'from
the report that the Duke of BRUNSWICK is on the
eve of visiting this Country upon matters con-
t eetea with the Negotiations carrying on at Pa-
ris ; at least shit h is the interpretation given to
this expeEted visit. • That our Ministry are dispos-
ed to make PeaCe upon . proper terms cannot be
doubted, nor can it be doubted that 'BONAPARTE is
anxious for the accomplishment of such a Inca-
sure, 'as we have often observed ; but, .whether,
in the proud exultation of his recent successes, he
will go so far as the honour and interest of this Coun-
try may require, is a point that puzzles conjecture. But
whatever may be the result, Ministers will certainly
not suffer any information to transpire till matters have
assumed a more decisive shape than they can possi-;
bly haye reached at'present.

The report of the arrival of a Messenger from
France was circulated this morning in the City,
which had some effect upon the Stocks; but cer-
tainly no information upon the subje& was derived
froth Government.

,It is now said that, the Report of the High Com-
mission, on an Inquiry of equal importance and deli-
cacy, will not be disclosed to the Public at large,
but will only be' submitted to the great Personage
by whose order it was instituted. As the ends of sub-
stantial justice will, of course, be fully accomplished,
it would not become us to make any observations
upon such an unexpe6ied circumstance attending
the result of this very interesting Inquiry, however
gratifying it might be to the Public at large to see
Innocence properly vindicated, and defamatory Ma-
levolence properly, punished.

Yesterday the usual Message was delivered from
His MAJESTY to the House of Commons, for aVote
of Credit, preparatory to the prorogation of Parlia-
ment. We have reason to believe that the proroga-
tion will take place in a fortnight at the utmost.

IT was stated, by mistake, in our:Fahnuuth Let-
ter yesterday, that JEROME BONAPARTE'S Squadron
had arrived at Batavia.; the _lila is, if the =mats

from Ltsbon nalv ite 4tpended upon, til.at it arrived
in the BA), of All Saints, in krazil, on the 4th April,
and, sailed again, on the 2lSt.s—There are.. n 074 so
many British Squadrons in pursuit of it, that there
is strong reason icS hoPe that it may be intereei;ted,

. • •
Messenger,, arrived 'in toWn
this morning from Fratice, with Dispatches tbrMr.
Fox : they' were taken to his house iii the'Bta' hie-
y,r4; •

The report of Mr. Fox this rnorning.was still more
favourable than yesterday. He passed a very good
night, and continued mending to-day. .

The Lords of the Treasury have been pleased-to
appoint Mr. PHILIP GIiEGSON, Comptroller of the
Four and Half per Cent, Plantation Duties, to be
Surveyor of the Coast Waiters, in the room of ED-
WARD WHITEHOUSE, Esq.-deceased; and likewise to
appoint HENRY CHISHOLINIE, ksci. to
.succeed Mr.
GREosoN. •

At a General Court of the Corporation of Trinity-
House, . held yesterday, the Right Hdri.- Earl . Sr.
VINCENT was unanimously ele6ied an Elder,Brother,
in the" twin of the Right Hon. Wm. Piiw, deceased;
and Capt. JONATHAN WILSON was eleeted an' Elder
'Brother,' in the, room of Capt. EFFINGHAM LAw-
RENCE, deceaseo.

Lord LAUDERDALE SLiCC'eedS the Duke of GORDON
•
as Keeper of the Great Seal in Scotland, the stated
salary of which is 30001. a-year.
HISTORICAL ANECDOTE.—A circumstance similar
to that which ndw occupies the.attentiori of all ranks
of the peoOle, took place in the. reign of CHARLES
. the Secoud.=-Some miscreant, of that period brought
'suspicions on the fidelity of the Duchess of Yoßx, in
Consequence of which an inquiry Was instituted, and
the result was 'SO doubtful, In the opinion:. of the
Duke, that though he doated on his wife he thought
proper to determine on a separation, during which
he suffered' the deepest anxiety. At length feelings
of compunEtion induced.the wretch who brought tie
charges to acknowledge that they were founded only
in a spirit of revenge and malignant invention. The
Dtrchess Was then restored to the favour of her Royal
husband, with whom she lived in the most cordial
affedion•till their last awful separaiion. • -
Yesterday morning the. Lord 'Chamberlain; • and'
several other. Noble Persons; who are 'of the Com-
mittee for erecting a Monument to the memory of
Lard. NELSON, attended at' St. Paul's, .with Mr.
MYLNE, the Architeet, to consider of a proper place
for it. We understand that the Centre-under the
dome was finally aterinined' to be the Most appro-
liriate situation.

The late reduction of Stag,
,on ' the 2.4t1i
,of last
tnonth, only an experiment ; a further and
very considerable reduCtion, , it is said, will very
soon: take place in every-bistria Of the, Kingdom.
The 16th, Peneral H 4 Regiment egiment of
,Dra-
goons, takes the King's duty this season. This
duty will therefore be divided between the Blues. at
Windsor, and the 15th at Hounslow Barracks. The
16th are to be relieved at 'Salisbury- by the 14th
Dragoons, commanded by Colonel HAwitEit, now
at liouuslow. Three ,BattaliOns of the King,'s' Ger-
man Legion;, amounting to Upward:: of 2009 men,
have for. a considerable- time been en —,ork
for Foreign ,Seryice, but, after va, r-
orders., they, still remain on hoird
The, Ist,. or. Royal Dragoons,
racks near Edinburgh, and at Perin, win
sent to Ireland.
.

PINANCi.-From Papers t)le of
the House Of Commons, it app:l.l.-4. • :t grass
amount of the Permanent Amin:it 1.. theyear
ending. Jan. 5, 1806, was 40,x`.;6,5881. .)S. 1 lid. of
which, after deduCting re-payments of 'various kinds
and 'charges of management, there rethained.
cable.

To National objeds - £35,314,'
158.10 41
That the amount of the remaining Heredi-
tary Reyenue,:after all dedudit,ris, was 59,269 834
That the net produce of the Property Td X Wa54,337,583 12 gi
That the net produce of the War Taxes in
the Department of the Ctistoms was - 2,632,147 19
Ditto, the Department of the Excise 6,360,229 13 9i

That the net produce of all the Taxes and
sources of Revenue, both permanent
and temporary, 'was - - 51,339.0'4; „IS loi
Loans paid into the Exchequer - ' 25,130,404 19 6

Grand, Total - £76,469,450 IS 41

EXTRACT OF A LETTER FROM LISBON, JUNE 16.

" Much alarm has been occasioned hereby the
unprecedented condu& of the Portuguese Govern
ment, in laying an Embargo on His-Majesty's Ship
the Richmond. This ac of violence was evidently
done merely to please the French. . A smart cor-
respondence took place in consequence, between the
Portuguese Government and Lord ST R A NGFQRD, the
Dritish Charge d'Affaires, whose manly and tem-
perate condud in this delicate affair deserves the
highest praise. _

It is to be hoped that England will not suffer
this insult to pass -without notice, as it is become
systematic in Portugal to affront the English Flag.
" *The Embargo continued .for twelve days ; but
at length the spirited remonstrances of the British
Minister prevailed.

" Intelligence has been received at Lisbon; that
the Squadron under JEROME BONAPARTE had been
hr Bahia,,in Brazil, from the 4th of April to the
26th."

• Music.—The musical Festivals• of Devon, Corn-
wait, and Somerset, are to take place this season at
Plymouth, Truro, and Taunton. Mrs. DICKONS,
GRIGLIETTI, VAUGHAN, GOSS, and DOYLE, are,
it seems, to support the vocal department, and the
ASHLEYS, HOLMES, GRIESBACK, BOYCE, and HYDE,
Bre. &c. the instrument: 4. The Leader of this liar-
monk Squadron is, of course, we presume, to be
General ASHLEY.

. The respeetable veteran SMITH, so long an orna-
ment of the London Stage, is now in' the IVletro-
polls,. and though he has reached his 76th year
looks as well as most people who have not long
passed the meridian of life. How gratified would,
the Public be to see him once mote. on the bdards
and what a hencfit could he confer on the-Theatrical
Fund by exerting his talents :in. its Evonr..--Such
an a& ,would be suitable .to his manly charaEter,
and his own liberal' feelings would be his best re-.
wat-d. .