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London, England, 1839-11-13 00:00:00

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LONDON :
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 1839.

THE NEW POSTAGE

We have great pleasure in laying before our
readers the first important step towards carrying
into execution the plan for a Uniform Penny Pos-
tage. In order to familiarize the persons engaged
at the Post-office and the public with the new ar-
rangements for charging by weight, that plan is to
take effect on the sth of December. At the same time
the public will have the benefit of a reduction of
all rates above 4d., to that sum, the reason for not
reducing it at once to ld., being to avoid encum-
bering the new arrangement with the great influx of
letters which might then be expected. The Post-
office, it will be seen will, after the sth of Decem-
ber, carry packages of the weight of llb. on paving a
proportionate postage. The inhabitants of the
London district will be immediately gratified
by a penny pre-payment postage, which will
serve gradually to introduce the uniform penny rate
over the whole empire. For this attention to
the public wants the Ministers deserve
the nation's gratitude and best thanks ; what
their opponents would have done were they in office

may be known from the pages of the Quarterly

Review and the Tory journals, several of which
still daily labour to prove that the public ought not
to have a cheap and uniform postage. Here is the
TREASURY MINUTE,
DATED NOV. 12, 1839.

CIS• Lords read the Act 2 and 3 Victoria, cap.
52, for the further Regulation of the Duties on
Postage until the sth October, 1840.
Since the prorogation of Parliament my Loris
have turned their unremitting attention to the mea-
sures necessary for carrying into effect the intention
of the Legislature.
The power with which this Board are invested
by the Act were recommended to Parliament, not
only for the purpose of enabling my Lords to adopt
such mode of payment as might on consideration
appear the most advisable, but also to enable my
Lords to carry into practical effect this great altera-
tion in the manner which might be least liable to
derange the regularity and the dispatch of the cor-
respondence of the country as now executed by the
Post Office.

My Lords have always been aware that the con.

temporaneous adoption of charging letters by weight
and the reduction of postage to an uniform rate of
one penny would be attended with much practical
difficulty. The time occupied now at the large
offices, and at the forward offices, in charging and
sorting the letters, has been reduced for the public
convenience to as narrow limits as possible.
To alter the mode of charge from that to
which the officers of the Post Office have been
long accustomed, must of itself for a time
be accompanied with some inconvenience, and my
Lords apprehend it would be imprudent to increase
that difficulty by adding at the same moment so
large a number of letters as must naturally arise
from the immediate reduction to the penny rate.
My Lords fear, that for a time at least, great
irregularities would prevail, and much public incon-
venience result. However satisfactory, therefore,
and however desirable in many points of view,
it might be, to carry into execution cotem-
poraneously the complete plan,' their Lordships
upon a full consideration have come to the conclu-
sion that, by adopting some"intermediate measure,
and bringing into operation the mode of chargirv,
the letters by weight, previous to the entire reduc-
tion of the rate of postage, their Lordships will not
only avoid the risk to which the other course is lia-
ble, but materially facilitate the introduction of the
remaining parts of the plan.
With these opinions their Lordships have, in
communication with the authorities of the Post
Office, turned their attention to the framing such
regulations as may introduce, with as little delay
as possible, the charge by weight. Their Lord-
ships propose to accompany this arrangement with
such reduction of postage as will be a material
relief to the public and not interfere with the pro-
per discharge of the duties of the officers of the
Post Office, as at present arranged.
By the regulations which, in conjunction with the
Post Office, have been matured, and which this
Board propose to sanction, my Lords apprehend
material advantages will be secured. A consider-
able relief will be given to the public, as regards ,
the charge of letters. One of the great departmental
difficulties in introducing the penny rate will be re-
moved, and such information be obtained as will
enable my
Lords to adopt with more security, and
consequently at an earlier period, the remaining
part of the s stem.
In 0. • y
tueir sanction to the proposed arrange-
ment, my -
Lords consider it as a temporary measureonly,
and as a sttfeffect
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of the intentions of the Legislature with as little
delay as is consistent with the due consideration of
the public convenience.

Their Lordships are pleased to direct that all
letters posted on or after the sth of December next
shall be subject to the following regulations.
General Post Letters shall be charged by weight
as follows :

1. Letters not exceeding -i oz. one Postage.
do.
do. .. , 2 do. 4 do.
do. ...

and so on, adding 2 Postages for every oz. up
to 16 on., beyond which no packets subject to
postage shall be received.
2. All single postage rates between places within
the United Kingdom, which now exceed 4d.,
shall be reduced to that sum. Inferior rates to
remain undisturbed, but the letters to be charged
by weight. Additional charges to which Gene-
ral Post letters are now liable, if posted, or de-
livered beyond the limits of the General Post
free delivery, as also the additional halfpenny
on Scotch Letters, and the additional penny for
passing the Menai and Conway Bridges to cease.
3. All Letters and. Packets exceeding the weight
of one ounce to be pre-paid, and delivered in at
the windows ; if not so pre-paid and delivered,
to be charged with Postage.
Foreign Letters and Packet Letters will be
charged according to the preceding scale of weight.
Letters to and from the British West Indies, to
be charged one shilling per single rate, the same
charge to attach to letters from and to Gibraltar,
Malta, and the lonian Isles, conveyed by packets
and not transmitted through France. My Lords
reserve for future consideration, the whole ques-
tion of the rates on Foreign letters, as their Lord-
ships consider that it will be a proper subject for
communication with Foreign Powers, in the h6pe
that such Foreign Powers may be induced to make
a corresponding reduction in their charges on letters
to and from this country.
All ship letters between parts of the United
Kingdom, including the Channel Islands and the
Isle of Man, to be charged by weight according to
the rates chargeable on inland letters.

Other ship letters to be charged by weight ac-
cording to the foregoing scale, the single postage-
rate remaining as at present, and the inland rate,
being regulated as for inland letters.
LONDON DISTRICT POST, INCLUDING
SECOND AND THIRD DELIVERY.
_

1. All letters not exceeding half an ounce:pro-
vided the postage be pre-paid, to be charged one
penny.

_ .
2. The twopenny charge on General Post letters
delivered in the London district to cease.
3. No furLher alteration to be made in the
charges levyable in the London District Post.

MY Lords have no intention by the present ar-
rangement to make any alteration with respect to
newspapers, franked letters, or Parliamentary pa-
pers, which will still continue to enjoy the same
privileges, and be subject to the same charges as
at present.

Transmit copy of this minute officially to the
Postmaster• General, and desire his Lordship will
give the necessary instructions to his officers to
carry the directions of my Lords into effect.
Desire also that he will direct the Solicitor of
the Post Office to prepare a draft of a warrant, in
conformity with the provisions of the Postage Acts,
to be signed by my Lords, and inserted in the
Gazette.

The determination of Sir ROBERT PEEL'S fol-
lowers to procure the Repeal of the Catholic
Emancipation Act, which was announced at Nor-
wich last Thursday, is amply confirmed by what
fell from the Rev. Mr. GREGG, the very apostle of
the Tory cause at Manchester, on the sth instant.
The Standard remarks of this Gentleman, that
he is " an Irish Protestant Clergyman, a zealous and
a severely pious man ;" what he says, therefore, he
means, and as he is caressed and followed by
great multitudes, what he recommends he may
have the power to accomplish. At the meeting
he described himself " as the instrument made by
GOD, of a great triumph over the Romish Church."
He was ushered on the platform with great solemnity,
and introduced by Reverend Brethren, who vouched
as it were for his apostleship. In his own estima-
tion, he is another great Reformer, a LUTHER or
a KNox, appointed amongst other things to subdue
the Catholics politically and morally,and what such a
man professes in the ardour of his enthusiasm he
is generally enabled to make others realise. The
less rational it is, the more his influence is to be
dreaded ; the less material and tangible are the
reasons he assigns, the more difficult is it to rescue
those from his power who are silly or ignorant
enough to harken to his denunciations. That Mr.
GREGG claims to be an enthusiast and appeals to
religious feelings give importance to his doctrines.
The following language is ascribed to him in the
Manchester Courier :

He exhorted the audience to go forward; ho rejoiced
they had cast off the term " Conservative," for there was
nothing to conserve. How was it possible, with the
Papists in Parliament, to do the things he proposed ?
It could not be done; therefore, they must have them
out of Parliament.--( Loud and long continued cheers.)
So long as they were there that could not be done;
this was the first step; and it was only by removing
them
.from Parliament that England could be made
great, glorious, and free."—( Applause.) But how
was this to be done? By public opinion; let them
have many such meetings as this ; let their Protestant
friends read their Bibles; and he would recommend them
also to read a small work which he was publishing, in the
shape of letters to the Corporation of Dublin, in favour of
Protestant ascendancy. Let them read, and let them
then come forward and advocate their principles. They all
remembered how Hunt was laughed at when he advocated
Parliamentary Reform ; but he was enthusiastic, and Re-
form had since been obtained. He would exhort them to
use the power that measure had given them, in returning
good men to Parliament; not merely men who would tread
in the steps of Sir Robert Peel, or the Duke of Welling-
ton, but who would take their stand upon the Bible. Let
them support the men who came forward on the principles
of Protestant ascendancy, and the destruction of Popery;
let them return them to Parliament with flying colours;
and Popery would fall, and every friend of religious li-
berty would dance over its grave.
Fanaticism, therefore, is to be again the basis of our
laws, and in the name of religious liberty a nation
is to be re-oppressed, and Protestant ascendancy re-
established. In conjunction with the twelve coun-
ties mentioned by i\lr. ECCLESTONE at Norwich,

(noticed in The Sun of yesterday), the public is to
be roused to put the Papists out of Parliament. Mr.
GREGG declares that this is necessary to make
our's a Christian Government and a Christian
Parliament. The Roman Catholics, he says, are
not Christiaus ; they are idolators. Because they
are not Christians they are to be put out of the pale
of the Constitntion. Consistently with this doc-
trine, Mr. GREGG implies that we have not at pre-
sent a Christian Government. He further throws
doubt on her MAJESTY'S Christianity. " WERE
THE QUEEN," he said, " A TRUE CHRISTIAN—
they knew what he meant—not a Christian in name
only." Now, as he appeals to the Manchester ope-
ratives to turn the Papists out of Parliament, because
they arc not Christians, and as he affirms that the
QUEEN is not a true Christian, he disparages her
MAJESTY equally with the Papists, and by one and
the same exertion he would kick them out of
Parliament, and kick down her throne, all for the
sake of religious liberty, Protestant ascendancy, and
the Bible. His sentiments were loudly cheered by
a numerous assembly of clergymen, ladies, and so-
called operatives.

Mr. GREGG'S deep veneration for the Bible, by
which he would regulate our institutions, leads him,
as the Bible denounces idolatry—because that was
the besetting sin of the Children of Israel—thus to
speak of the Catholics, and thus to exhort the
government which is to be constituted by the aid of
the appeals which he and other clergymen are mak-
ing to the people :
He had been charged with using strong language ; he
could scarcely contain himself when he thought of the de-
grading influence of abominable hell-born Popery on the
masses of Ireland, which brought down upon them the
curse of God. No crime was so deeply denounced by
Scripture as idolatry ; and he declared that if the idol-
priest of the Romish chapel in Manchester were to slay a
young child and offer it up on his altar, it would not be a
greater crime
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land ; but when they found that their governors were ready
with one hand to lay upon the laws of England, and declare
that Romanism was a foul idolatry, and with the other were
taking out heaps of money from the nation's treasury,
to aid in perpetuating this very system of idolatry, could
they wonder at any crime, however, atrocious, being prat_
tiscd among a people whose Government was so prosti-
tuted.—( Great applause.)

• • • • • • • •
Had we a Christian Government, we should see • mis•
sionaries sent out into all parts of Ireland to preach Pro-
testantism, not standing up in tubs, in the corners of fairs,
and getting pelted with mud; but backed by all the power
and authority of Government, with the military if neces-
sary, to keep order, and a park of artillery to fire the sig-
nal for the commencement of divine worship; the Royal
proclamation, under the hand and seal of Queen Victoria
herself, being issued, recommending all Roman Catholics
to attend.

• • •
He would have the Government to set on foot a public
desecration of the idols of Rome—he would have their
relics and scapularies publicly mocked, so that no one
might fear them, or believe in their efficacy. In the fourth
place, he would establish a sound system of Scriptural
education ; he would give them the Bible, and the whole
Bible—nothing but the Bible ; he would not suffer the
priests to expunge the texts they disliked. And if tho
priests endeavoured to prevent the children from attending
the schools, by excommunicating them, he would publish
their names, in large placards, as " the cursing priests."
We say nothing about the morality of the teacher
of the people, who declares that child murder is
not a greater crime than entertaining an erring
faith, to which as an heritage by far the greater
part of mankind have been born, as they have been
born black or white ; we say nothing about the
misfortune to our population now to have, a la
MARCUS, infanticide made light of by a minister
of the Gospel ; we only wish the public to observe
that the banishment of the Papists from Parliament
is to be followed by the public desecration of their
religion ; and the civil war which he and the united
twelve counties would provoke is to be accompanied
by religious persecution. The Papists are to be
excluded from Parliament, the QUEEN is to be
dethroned, the religion of one-third of the people is
to be mocked at and des,Trated, by the help of the
military force of the State—all this evil is to be per-
petrated in the name of religious liberty.

That Mr. GREGG'S recommendations are wholly
foreign to the genius and disposition of our Go-
vernment, which tolerates in its wide empire all
kinds of idolatry, is not of the least consequence to
this enthusiast. " There is nothing," he says, "to
be conserved," but all is to he modelled anew on the
Bible ; and the beginning is to be made by repealing
the Catholic Emancipation Act. This is a majes-
tic scheme of theocratic Reform, to whichilthe Earls
of WINCHILSEA and RODEN, and a multitude of
other Nobles, Prelates, Clergy, Gentlemen, and
Ladies, have lent themselves. The sweeping altz-
rations proposed by the Chartists are trifling com-
pared to it, though they may be much more ra-
tional than an attempt to model our community by
the Bible. The twelve counties, headed by the
Earl of WINCHILSEA—how many auxiliaries they
may have in the Clergy of Manchester, Liverpool,
and other places, we know not—are deliberately to
attempt to establish here the principles of the Is-
raelites, and make our empire as renowned for the
persecution of our brethren as they were renowned
for the persecution of strangers and enemies. That
it leads to the subversion of the Monarchy through
bloody contests will not stop enthusiasts like the
Rev. Mr. GREGG and his applauding auditors.
We find some satisfaction in observing that he
and his friends openly separate themselves from
Sir ROBERT PEEL and the Duke of WELLING-
TON, whose names might give an appearance of
success to their cause. Though Sir ROBERT
PEEL will not repudiate them, though he still
hopes, meanly and basely, we must say, to profit
by their fanaticism, they openly repudiate him. He
may coquet with them and encourage them, but
their great apostle repels his advances. The great
party which is to overturn the State has not, there-
fore, at present any more distinguished leaders
than Messrs. GREGG and BRADSHAW, O'SUL-
LIVAN and STOWELL, with the Earls of WIN-
CHILSEA and RODEN. We hope they may be
as weak as their designs are wicked, for were Mr.
GREGG and his friends enabled to convert their
language into deeds, the land would soon be one
scene of carnage. His violent and far-going doc-
trines seem the necessary consequences of the lan
b-
auarie used by the Tory Journals, which have
been preparing the way for that violent attack on
the civil rights of the Catholics, which is announced
at Norwich and Manchester.

The following is from the Standard:—

" We believe we are correct in stating that the General
Commanding in Chief has submitted for the Queen's ap-
proval, that the Colonelcy of the 3d Light Dragoons,
which has become vacant by the recent death of Lieu-
tenant-General Lord George T. Beresford, G. C. H., be
give❑ to Lieutenant-General Lord Charles S. Manners,
K. C. B. (at present Colonel of the 11th Light Dragoons),
and that Lieutenant-General Philip Philpot be appointed
Colonel of the latter regiment."

Should both these Generals be Tories, as their
names denote—should they be at the same time
among the least deserving officers of the army—
should Lord MELBOURNE'S supporters have been
neglected, though amongst those supporters more
deserving men than the Generals promoted may be
found—it will be only what the Ministers deserve. At
the same time we pity more than blame them. They
are caught in a net from which they cannot escape,
and which is less of their own weaving than that
it is wove round them by the public. They are
compelled by a multitude of circumstances to rely
on the army for the maintenance of the Govern-
ment. It is equally lamentable and true that the
bulk of the population are alienated from the laws,
from the Constitution, and the Government ; force
only retains them in obedience, and the Govern-
ment which depends on the army for the preserve-
' tion of its powers, is necessarily the servant or slave
of the army. Lord MELBOURNE, we are afraid,
dare not take any step which may appear distasteful
to it. Being the master of the Government, though
the people pay it, it is also the master of the people.
While we are afraid of a military Government as
the consequence of a revolution, we seem in fact
to have the odious thing, disguised indeed, already
reigning over us. Is it the consequence of the
glorious battle of Waterloo ?

The proceedings at the election of the new
Mayor of Birmingham, though chiefly of a local
nature, will be read with interest, and not without
regret, by all those who wish well to the enterprising
inhabitants of that town. It will be seen that the
man generally reckoned the most fit to fill the office
was not elected, because he would not submit to
the trammels which the State Church has formed
for all public officers ; and also that great division
prevails among the Liberals themselves ; one party
praising the conduct of the London Police, and
another party denouncing the force, attributing to
it all the evils that had lately befallen the town,
and heaping abuse on the Government, not
only for employing it, but for saddling Birming-
ham with the expense of a similar body, over whom
the civic authorities can have no control. We
must attribute to the strong feelings excited by
these circumstances the violent, and, in some res-
pects, unjust attacks made on the late Home Se-
cretary, which men of peaceable habits would in
their cooler moments, we are sure, consider impolitic
as well as unmerited. Whatever faults Lord JOHN
RUSSELL may have, he is not to blame for the
declaration which all Justices are required to make,
and even Mr. STURGE must admit that no man
either in or out of Parliament has exerted himself
more to abolish all those religious tests by which
the Church attempted to bolster up her worldly
wealth and her spiritual power. A meeting of the
inhabitants, we understand, is to be held in a few
days, in order to express their opinion of the Go-
vernment Police. Might not the subject be dis-
cob4,d on its own merits, without Lnoudeing as '
abettors of tyranny the party who ever opposed i

Tory Governments in their attack:, upon the liber-
ties and lives of the people ?

The case of JOHN THOROGOOD is assuming
an importance which his persecutors did not calcu-
late on when they first let loose upon him their vin-
dictive fury. The Vicar of Chelmsford and his
ecclesiastical coadjutors thought that a man like
him, who had shown an unbending adherence to
the rights of conscience in opposition to clerical
exaction, was the fittest person that could be
selected for an example to others of the conse-
quences of disobedience to " spiritual pastors and
masters." " Let us crush," said they, " this im-
pudent Non-conformist who dares to set up his
scruples of conscience against the authority of the
Church, that his fate may be a warning to others."
That they have followed out their cruel determina-
tion with due perseverance, the sufferings of
THOROGOOD bear ample testimony. Ten months'
imprisonment in a common gaol, with malefactors
of all sorts for his associates, and the infliction
of every privation which a malignant ingenuity
could suggest, attest the vigour of ecclesiastical
authority no less than the mild spirit in which it is
administered.

Whether the intended effects have been pro-
duced is quite another question ; and one that the
Church has to look to. If it shall be found, that,
instead of putting clown Church-rate agitation,
and silencing the complaints made against the ra-
pacity of the richest ecclesiastical Establishment
in the world, the. proceedings in this case have
struck the minds of right thinking persons of all
persuasions as deeply stamped with intolerance,
malice, cruelty, and tyranny, then is the result
anything but matter of triumph to the Church.
Now this is the natural, and it has been the actual,
effect of the proceedings in question. Aversion,
if not disgust, towards a system pretending to the
name of religious, which can sanction such treat-
ment as this innocent person has been subjected
to for conscience sake, is expressed in no equivocal
terms. The character of the " Poor Man's
Church has been degraded, and has become
odious in the public estimation, by this inhuman
persecution of a poor man. Those who, from pre-
judice, have been unwilling to think harshly of the
State system of faith, cannot, and do not, shut their
eyes to the pregnant proof which that persecution
affords of the irreconcileabie difference that exists
between the religion established by law and the re-
igion established by CHRIST.

The decision in the Sheriffs' Court, by which
Mr. STOCKDALE has obtained a verdict for 6001.,
in defiance of a resolution of the House of Com-
mons, will bring the privileges of that House and
the execution of the law directly into conflict. We
spare observations, and refer to the report of the case.

Letters and Papers from Madrid of the 4th inst.
announce that nothing had been decided upon re-
specting the Ministry. The silence of the journals
had, however, been liberally purchased, so that
nothing exceeds the decorum with which they dis-
cuss the policy of the prorogation. The only news
from the provinces is an account of the desertion
of a large body of CABRERA'S guides to ESPAR-
TERO. Important intelligence was, however, hourly
expected.

The Moniteur of Monday, which we have re-
ceived along with the other French Journals of the
same date, contains the following telegraphic de-
spatch from Toulon :

" THE CHIEF OF THE NAVAL SERVICE TO THE MINISTER

OF MARINE.

" TOULON, Nov. Phare, having on board
the Duke of Orleans and his suite, arrived this evening
at ten o'clock. The Prince is in good health, and dis-
embarked immediately to enter the Lazaretto."
In the same Journal we find an official contra-
diction of the statement of AI. BLANQUI, relative
to the wretched state of the French Army in Africa.
This will provoke a rejoinder, and thus the real
state of the new colony will be made known to the
public, even before the meeting of the Chambers.
Already has M. BLA.Ncaux found a witness of the
truth of the general statements which he has put
forth in the person of M. BLOT, a medical gentle-
man, who has addressed a letter to the Courrier
Francais on the subject.
There is no intelligence from the theatre of war
in Spain in the French Journals of Monday. The
Memorial Bordelais asserts that the QUEEN RE-
GENT had appointed the Marquis of MIRAFLORES,
Spanish Ambassador at the Court of the Tuileries,
President of the Council. It is probable that such
an appointment has been under consideration, but
the report of its having taken place is certainly pre-
mature, as otherwise it would have been communi-
cated by telegraph to the French Government.
The Moniteur announces that the French Go-
vernment is not in a condition either to confirm or
contradict the reports in the New York Papers of
the repulse of the French troops on the 17th of
August by the Buenos Ayreans. The Govern-
ment had received no despatches of a later date than
the latter end of July from the South American
squadron.

The Gazette de France, the organ of the Abso-
lutists makes a world of parade about the attention
shown to the exiled Bourbons by the POPE and the
Sovereign Princes of Italy. The fact is hardly
worth recording. The Sovereigns of Italy are
powerless for either good or evil. They exist merely
by sufferance.

The Emancipation of Toulouse of the Bth inst. con-
tains a letter from La Cerdagne, announcing that Count
D'Espagne had been met proceeding towords the valley
of Arau. " We can easily conceive," observes the writer,
.‘ that the monster deemed it prudent to go out of his
way in order to avoid the towns he had sacked, and the
populations he had decimated."
The Ga:cttc of Leipsic says that the King of Prus-
sia, by way of reprisals against the Pope, is about to
modify the law on mixed marriages in every part 'of the
Monarchy, so that all children from henceforth born in
those marriages shall be educated Protestants. The
arrest of the Archbishop of Posen has given great
scandal in the country, and t he Roman Catholic clergy
have ceased to ring the church bells, for the purpose of
showing how deeply they felt that indignity.
The letters from the Levant, brought by the Fa-
' vourit•!-, corvette, bring word that the Belle Poule fri-
gate, commanded by the Prince de Joinville, has been
ordered by Admiral Lalande to visit the coast of Syria,
and that after this short cruise the Belle Poule will
return to Toulon ; it would, in fact, be hard to make
the Belle Poule pass the bad winter season in the Le-
vent, and as it is not thought fit to expose the Prince
to a fatiguing navigation, orders are given to return to.
port with his frigate after his exercises on the coast of
Syria.

The number of travellers on the railway of St. Ger-
mains in the first ten months of this year was 1,174,305,
and the receipts (including 18,246 francs for baggage,
&c.), 1,089,995 francs.—Commerce.
AUSTRIAN FUNDS.—VmxNA, Nov, 2.
five per Cents. Metalliques
Four per Cents.
!COX
Three per Cents.
804
Bank Shares
1597
Zeitung, Nov. 7.
Tb

e Augsburg Gazelie of the 7th inst., re-
ceived this morning, with Brussels and German
papeis of the latest dates, contains the following
characteristic communication from its correspondent
at Constantinople. Nothing goes down now but
abuse of Lord PONSONBY, who is ridiculously
made to hold his personal character and official
station affected by the defeat of the Turkish army
at the battle of Nczib

CONSTANTINOPLE, OCT. 20.—Lord Ponsonby has
sworn to annihilate Mehemet Ali. His Lordship will
never pardon two offences, namely, his having defeated
the army of Hafiz Pacha, the triumph of which his
Lordship had guaranteed here and in London, and
being in good understanding with Russia. As up to the
day of the battle of Nezib the victory of the Sultan's army
was a dogma to dispute which was a capital offence before
his Lordship's tribunal, so is now, and till some future
day the position " Mehemet Ali is in the pay of Rus-
sia." The more that pains are taken to prove to his
Lordship that this position does not rest on any pro-
bable grounds; that it is destitute of all proof ; that
the V‘eeroy of Egypt is not. a man to be bought
ii.h a 'landfill 01 doliais, the more ohstitiately
does his Lordship persevere in his opinion, which

will doubtless produce its fruits as the preeedin4
error did. The hand of Providence is evidently for
Mehemet Ali, for everything conspires to make him
great ; the blind hatred of Sultan Mahmond, the four-
teen years' enmity, sometimes open sometimes masked,
of Khrosrew Pacha ; the incapacity of more than one
European Minister at the Porte ; Lord Palmerston's
morbid hatred of Russia, and the visions of his
agents ; the necessity of preserving peace in Eu-
rope—the interventions and the illusions of yesterday,
to-day,. and tc-morrow, all comp're to impel the vassal
to independence, and to ruin the Turkish empire. It
may really be feared Mehemet will at length lose his pa-
t nee, and declare himself independent, in order to put
an end to all further importunity. But we hope that he
is more interested in the Turkish empire than any of
the Powers that protect it, and more than our Chief
Minister here, who would willingly place two Russian
sentinels before the appartments of the Sultan, his
master.

LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY.)

DEAL, Nov. 12.—Wind N. W. _Arrived the Moira,
Avern, from Calcutta; Coromandel, Loader, ditto.
Sailed the whole of the outward.bound. Arrived from
the River the Mary Mitcheson, M•Queen, for Bombay;
West Indian, Turner. Jamaica ; Cammerton, Shields,
Demerara ; William Burton, Pa'on, Tobago ; Funchal,
Killick, St. Vincent; Glide, Townsend, St. John's, New
Brunswick; Pigeon, Hiscock, St. Michael's ; George
William, Conn, Leghorn; Behr. Gloricuse, Oiubelondo,
Gilboa ; Lawson, Kilton, St. Uhec.
PORTSMOUTH, Nov. 13.—Wind E.S.E.—Arrived off
the Pearl, Benson, from Bombay.
PLYMOUTH, Nov. 11.—Wind N E.—Arrived the
Rapid, Barrt tt, from Tarragona; Royal Williana(steamer),
London, for Dublin. Sailed the Maria, for St. Michael's.
FaLmorrn, Nov. 11.—Calm.—Arrived the Braganza
(steamer), Louis, from London, and sailed the 11th for
Vigo, Sac. ; Delight, packet, \Vest Indies, sailed from
Barbadoes the 13th September, Tolanjo 16th, Trinidad
22d, Grenada 23d, St. Kitt's 27th, Tortola 28th, St.
Thomas and Porto Rico 30th, and Cape Hayti 7th ult.
The Semaphore, Sesenacry, from Marseilles to Rotter-
dam, which put into this port 9th inst. leaky, must dis-
charge to repair
LtvEr.Pooa, Nov. 12.—Wind N. W.—Arrived the Col-
chester, from St. Andrew's, New Brunswick ; Warrior,
Isaacs, St. John's, New Brunswick; Wasdale, Pagan,
Monte Video ; Huddersfield, Owens, Bonny—sailed
27th ult. ; Mantura, Weeks, for;Nlalaga—sailed Medora,
Harrison, Bombay.
MAnGATE, Nov. 11.—Arrived off, the Emma, Jarvis,
from Malaga.

RAMSGATE, Nov. 12.—Arrived the Matilda, Webber,
from London to Jamaica, with loss of bowsprit, &c.
HASTINGS, Nov. 12.—Arrived off, the Lady Kennmay,
Davidson, from Calcutta.
HULL, Nov. 12.—Wind S W.---Arrived the Apollo,
Sadler, from Rotterdam ; Anne Guthrie, Jackson, ditto ;
Emanuel Sfiefcr, Newfeldt.

PENZANCE, Nov. I I.—Arrived tie Magic, Trevavas,
from Smyrna; Celerity, Pentreath, Zante.
LEITH, Nov. 11.—Arrived the Commerce, Steere, from
Denia ; Frankfort, Lyall, Hamburg ; Catherine Ann,
Young, Bordeaux ; Restless, Arnot, Rouen ; Onrot,
Dick, Rotterdam.

VESSELS SPOKEN Wurti.—The Ellen, of Sunderland,
18th August, off Cape Sauzery ; Berthon, Liverpool to
Leghorn, 7th ult., off Malaga; Geo. Ramsey, Gloucester
to Odessa, and Olga, of Sunderland, same day ; Sarah
Ann, bound to Messina, 12th, off Cape St. Mary's, by the
Melville, Cornforth, arrived at Cork ; Hindostan, London
to Madras, 3d inst., lat. 44, lon. 12; Reliance, Liverpool
to Brazil, sth., lat. 47, len. 10, by the Thunderer, arrived
at Falmouth ; Aberfoyle, Bristol to Odessa, Ist ult., lat.
37, lon. 13, E. ; Derby, of London, 12th, off Cape de
Gatt, by the Newborn, arrived at Falmouth; Vixen,
Sierra Leone to Liverpool, t% ith loss of topmasts, off Cape
Rocca ; Guiana, Liverpool to Bahia, 26th ult., lat. 42,
lon. 12 ; John Bull, of Liverpool, 17th ult., lat. 38, lon.
13, by the Favarite, Brooks, arrived in the River; Aber-
deenshire, Newhaven to Quebec, 30th Sept., in the Gulf
of St. Lawrence ; Basset, London to Odessa, 13th ult.,
off Malaga, by the Tantivy, arrived at Plymouth.

MONEY AND COMMERCIAL NEWS.

CITY, TWELVE 0' CL 0 CK.
LIVERPOOL COTTON MARKET, Nov. 12.—We have
had a very fair demand for Cotton to-day, without al-
teration from last Friday's quotations. The sales are
3,500 bags.

Our arrivals this morning are a French mail ; also a
mail from St. Thomas's, by the Delight—sailed 30th
September, Cape Henri 7th October.

THE FUNDS.

The Consols Market continues firm, and with a fur-
ther improvement on the leaving off prices of yesterday.
They left off at 90- i. for the Account, and opened
this morning at 904 i ; for Money closed at 901 1, at
present 901 f. Exchequer Bills also improving, 4 2
dis. ; Bank Stock 1781 1791 ; India Stock, 250 2511.
In the Foreign Market Spanish Active, which left off
at 281 i, are at present not so good, 28-4- _a ; Portuguese
closed at 3n at present 324 334, Mexican, 294 301 ;
Colombian, SOi 811- ; Brazilian, 731 ; Belgian, 1001
1011 ; Dutch Two-and-a-Half per Cents., 528 1 ; Five
per Cents., 954 994.
PRICES O 1 6TOLKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Bank Stock
3 per Cent. itcd. %%1/4; , Ditto Bonds 3 6 dis
8 per Cent. Cons 9O, 9ii South Sea Stock —
3 ~, per Cent Old Annuities -
Ditto Red. 9-,4 % New Ditto
New 3 per '.:ent 138%% 3 per Cent. Annuities, 17.51
New 5 per C.. it.
Bank Long Annuities toexoire Ditto 500 .. 4 2 dis.
Jan. 5, 1860 l3 9-16% Ditto Small .. 4 2 dis
Oct. 10, 1859 I3 Ditto Commercial —
Jan. 5, 186(1 13 13-16 Ditto Advertised .....
Jan. 5, 1880 — Bank Stock for Account ...
April 5, 18811. — India Stock for Account ...
Jan. 5. 1870 — Cousos for Account 903'x.4
RICES OF FOREIGN FUNDS THIS DAI AT ONE O'CLOCK,
Austrian Bonds Peruvian Bonds —
Belgian Bonds
Ditto Account
Brazilian Bonds
Ditto kccount
Buenos Ayres Bonds
Ditto Account
Chilian Bonds
atto Accou t - Russian Bonds, 1822
Columbian Bonds —. Ditto Account
Ditto Account — Ditto Metallic
Columbian Bonds, 1824... 3075 I Spanish Bonds 28% IZ, 8
Ditto Account — Ditto Account 4E,Ai%
Danish Bonds
Ditto Account — Deterred 12% IA
Greek Bonds — French, 5 per cent....... —f. —c.

Ditto Bonds, 1825 ,
—1 ---•• 4 per cent. —f. —c•
Ditto Account ! -- 3 per cent. —f. —c.
Mexican Bonds, 5 per Cent — Exchange. —l. —c.
Ditto Account ..... ....
Ditto, 6 per Cent.
Ditto Account —
Ditto Account
Neapolitan —. Ditto Account.... —
PRICES OF SHARES THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Paid. Per Share.
Loudon and Birmingham Railway Company ... SO fi 1140
COURSE OF EXCHANGE, YESTERDAY. •
Amsterdam C.F. 12 6 !flair:ma,
Ditto, at sight
Rotterdam c, U l2 C% !Genoa ..
Antwerp...
'dainburg.
Altona
Pari,, 3 days' sight 25 45 ' Paler.ao
Ditto ..... •. ........... 3 Ms. 25 70 Lisbon 5414
Marseille,
Bourtioaux
Frankfort on Maine, Ex.M. 151 V,, !Bahia 27
Petersbuigh, ruble... 3 Us. 38 i Buenos Ayres
Berlin
Vienna, effective f1...3 M 10 7 Philadelphia 46
Tricae ditto lO 6 PRICE OF BULLION, per OZ.
Madrid 38% Portugal Gold, c0in..... 00 0
Cadiz... 9834 Foreign Gold, in bars... 317 9
Bilboa ...,
Barcelona '36 ' New Dollars 0 4 10%
Seville 36 Silver in Bars
HALF-PAST OIVE.
The news this morning of most interest is that from
Jamaica by the mail, which announces the arrival out of
the new Governor, Sir Charles Metcalf, and the em-

barkation of the late Governor, Sir Lionel Smith, on
his return home.

The coffee crops are ripening fast, and the exhor-
bitant demands of the negro labourers are increasing,
who, supposing that the planters must get their berries
picked, cunningly combine to ask double wages, by
which means they can earn, with the utmost ease 35.4 d.
to ss, per day for a light labourer's work.
In respect to domestic occurrences we find no very
remarkable event to record ; the best news is that
abundant crops are ripening fast ; the weather upon the
whole has been favourable.

Consols have continued firm during the morning ;
the improvement of the foreign Exchanges has caused
more confidence in the monied interest, and it is
generally expected that on the next post day a further
rise will take place, which, no doubt, will have a fa-
vourable effect on the Consol Market.

Consols at present may be quoted at 901 for
Money ; for the Account 90-i- g. Exchequer Bills, .12 ;
India Bonds, 3 6 ; Bank Stock, 1791..
In the Foreign Market Spanish Active heavy, at
28 ; Portuguese, 331 ; Three per Cents., 23 ; Co-
lombian, 31 ; Mexican, 30 ; Brazilian, 731; ; Dutch Two-
and-a Half per Cents., 524 h ; Five per Cents., 991.
The Batavier steamer has not yet arrived.

Fourpenny pieces will be in great demand on and
after the sth December, in consequence of the new
postage.

RAILWAY ACCIDENT.—On Saturday morning
an accident of a very serious character took place upon
the London and Brighton Railway, at a place called
the Stoat's Nest, near Merstham. About nine o'clock
an engine with a train of empty waggons went down
the line towards Hooly-lane, and returned in about
three quarters of an hour, and during this interval
some mischievous person placed two pieces of iron, which
are technically termed " chairs," and which are used
for the purpose of supporting the rails, upon the metals,
and the engine was in consequence thrown off the
rails, and with the waggons dashed down the bank. The
waggons were literally smashed to pieces Ny the violence
of the fall, and the engine was also injured. Fortunately,
however, neither the engineer nor any one else was
hurt, Information of the occurrence having been given
to Mr. Shonfeld, the superintendent of the railway po-
lice, he instituted a rigid inquiry into the circumstances,
and from information he received tool: a lad named
Jenkins into custody, and he was brought up on Mon-
day at the Town Hall, Croydon, for exatnination, when
the above facts were deposed to by Mr. Green, one of
the contractors to the Company, and the engineer. It
was proved that the prisoner and a man were at work
near the spot where the chairs had been placed upon
the rails, and that no one else had gone that way. The
111a,2;.,,Irate,(!idl'iitth,• 42, i:icricc, ,-;:lit!ont to
warratit them ltl detaining the buy, and he was
charged, with a caution not to go near the r.ailway again.

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EVENING

iS-UILDHALL.-

'THIS DAY.)

POSTING INFLAMMATORY PLA \CARDI.—Gc"g'e
lard and Henry Pollard, remandeu
from Monday, on -a
charge of posting a placard of a sed. 'tious and inflamma-
tory nature, in Bartholomew-close on Saturday last,
were tLis rrorning again placed at the b lr.
the prisoner
Mr. Alderman MAGNAY (addressing'
George Pollard)—lt appears that you have made a state-
ment which is not true as to your getting the'
placard in
question from a country carman, who requested you to
post it. Oa the contrary, it appears that you are a
volunteer in 'this cause, and agreed to stick up these
bills without making any charge. You must find
to appear at the Sessions to answer the charge tbs't'
may he mad.) against you, and then you will be released
from custody.
The prisoners were then removed from the bar, it
being understood that they would be discharged on their
father becoming bail for their appearance.

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