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made against them, withthe"Slig—htestrustice.
CHAN CELLOR•ofthe EXCHEQUER said,
he was aware that it was. not. only the right but the
Expenditure,
of every Member to watch, over the Public
..xpenditure, and he begged to observe, that he did
not understand.,the Hon. Gentleman. as throwing
011 t any, imputation against Ministers. But he was
anxious,that expressions used there, should not pro..
duce impressions elsewhere very different from the
intention of those who used them. In 178 z, Mr.
linkitz's Bill passed, by which the Secret Service
I\4 Oney was to be granted by that -House, instead of
neing taken from the Civil List. The only sum
taken out of the Civil List now for that purpose,.
Was io,oool. a year, vvhiCh was called 'Treasury
Money, for Secret Service at Lame, but there wis
not a shilling taken out ache Civil List tor Foreign
Secret Sery ice
.Money. The. sum. now to be applied
for was only io,oool. which was less than had been
granted upon former occasions, except last year.—
, The Hon, Gentleman had said, that the employ-
, Went of the Sums voted for Secret Services, were
never accounted for ; but if he would only look
into Mr. BURKE'S Bill, he would find that the Se- .
ctetary of State was to make oath relative to the
disposition of those monies.
Mr. ROBSON said, that during the whole of the
:American War Ministers did not come to the House.
6.for a single farthing for Secret Services. Where
the money came frinn that was then applied to this
c!?Fpose he knew• not, but he supposed out of the
ivil` Liar.•
The .C:IIANCELLOR of the EXCIIE.QUER
Said, that if the-Honourable Gentleman knew any
thing, ;he must know .this, that Parliament had,
'Within the period alluded •to by the Honourable
.Centleman, paid the debts of the Civil List, a great
art,of which arose, from the sums applied for Secret
Services. , •
- Sir 3.011 N PARNELL rose to.speak to Order.
lie could not conceive hoW the continuance of this
.discussion applied to the .question before. the House.
There was nut
.4 word said about lessening the sum,
and it was the first time he had heard- of any jea-'
lousy tving shewn at the Minister's decreasing' the •
expenses of the Country. Belpre -Mr. Bu RICE'S
-Ministers could spend whatever sum they
pleased in Secret SerOices, but•by the provisions of
that Bill, the precise sum was to be voted by Par_
liament. He could not imagine, for a moment that
any one would oppose the iroting.of Secret ServiCe
Money., which was always absolutely necessary, the
-application of which had, he was sure, preserved
'both England and Ireland from insurrettions and
rebellions, and which. was essential to the in.
retests of the State. The money now proposed
.to be voted was- certainly reduced to the smallest
tflun possible : he was only 'doubtful whether it
was. large enough. No one could deny the truth
°f the paper brought forward by the Hon. Gentle-
man (Mr. RoasoN), but he denied the jnference
that was attempted to be drawn from it, it having
o relation to the question before the House.
Mr. ELLISON said, the Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
xaisoN) had been merely talking of abuses which
existed previods to ,Mr. ButO's Bill, and which
Were pit an end to by that Bill.
The Resolution as amended was then agreed to,
it* also the remaining Resolutions. •
The Committees of Supply and Ways and Means
"ere deferred till Monday.
Adjourned at a quarter past five.

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The cabinet'or Vienna, it is said, will liquidate
':1(11: only, the interest of. the Loans contracted on
tl?eir account in. the 49w, 'Countries, 'but will also
,!"imburse the Capitals` in ...a, limited time.' It is
I.°f' jet Lively knoWn what other arrangements
be taken respeaing the Securities on the Cop_
per Mines of Carinthia, on those of Quicksilver in
thqa, and on the Debts due from theNerchant
mpantes of Trieste end Fiume.

• It. has been remarked, say the Clef du CaLiUei,
that Lord*CoßNwAta.is has, since his arrival in
4ris, dispatched four Couriers to L6ndon.

Two Homburg; .earls still, remain due.

r, 'Yesterday a Privy cotineil was held at the
ouneil Chamber, Whitehall, at which His Grace the
bi)ke of PoßTt.4wo, the ATTORNEY and SULAM.
NERAL, the MASTER of ,the Ro.u.s, Lord
LvANLEy, Lord HAW•RESBVRY, Sir W., SCOTT,
lid Mr. At orNsToN attended,

\Rilis Royal Highness the Durll of YORK held a
41ilitary Levee yesterday at the Horse .Guards.
The PRINCE of ORANGE left this Country rather
trecipitately. His Serene Highness, we believe, is_
°t expthed to return'to it. . •
Lord CHOLMONDELEY gives a very splendid
)4111 and Supper on Monday evening at Houghton.
'lll3 to all the Nobility and Gentry of Norfolk, in
curation of the Peace.

The French Princes, who were for some time at
.iipughion on a shooting party -with Lord CEIOL-
ago.NDxLEy, left that hospitable mansio.a few clays

Lord Rola E [Ur FlTZ.CtitmeD has declared himself
tiaodidale fur the County of Kildare. His lord_
14IP is prevented from personal attendance in Ire.
41'14 by the severe indisposition of his Lady and
ree of their children.