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London, England, 1806-03-14 00:00:00

TRISEL CLERGY

, Dr. DUIGEN.>IN, moved the Order of /the Day
on the -Bill 'for - enforciug 'the Residence 6f the
Clergy of Ireland on their 'Benefices, &c. which
Was the consideration of ,the Repoct of the Bill.
Mr. GRATTAN observed, that a number of
Gentlemen who represented „Ireland in i'arliaiiien(
were absent, Who felt the necessity of stating their
t‘piniolis in this subjc6.l, and who Wished lor•time
ilrlth'A purpose:- They had. -requested him to
‘tate to thc House this; circumstance, and to mow

that the present Report should be taken into cn-
sideration after the Assizes, wh'sch would not be
over at . the 'beginning of Apri). • He supposed
that the Learned Gentleman 'who brought t4iS
ae.bjeet forward could " have po objeCtion' this
delay under these circumstances ; and tberefore
he moved, that the cbriSideration of this Report
be deferred Until Thursday the
_Bth day of gay
Dotior DUIGENAY said, he wished the Hon.
,Gentleman would be good as to assign Sonic rea-
son for poitponing this subjea to so late a periodi
for it Was an important matter that the Clergy of Ire-
land should reside on their benefices: Thia was a Bill
brOUght in by the •direaiOn,Of a' Learned 4oard iii
Ireland, and consisting of the most respeaable, as
well as learned, persons in that Country. By the
Articles of the Union of England and Ireland it was
engted, that the Churches of the tWo Countries
shall be one and theiarne'Church for ever; the reSi-
ke of the Clergy in England had been provided
Tot.' by- an ACt of Parliament; of which this Bill
Was a mere copy, 'and he saw no reason why the ie.-
siderce 'ShoUld not be alike, as the' Churches were
alike.; for these reasohs he did not see any good
grourid'fOrspoStponing the Bill. In support of his
obkrvatiOn that the' Bill was the same as' that
which had passed into a law with respect to the resil-
dence of the Clergy of England, he-referred to. the
ACt of the 43d`of the King upon that Subje6t. He
should be very sorry to oppose any reasonable"clelly,
but he saw no reason for postponing this measure
for the period now proposed, and unless the Right
Hon: Gentle Man would assign a good 'one fur the
delay, he must 'dppOse it.
Mr. 'RATTAN said, that the reasons for the
proposed delay were, , the absence of those persons
who represent Ireland in. that House; who were
Most concerned in this.meassire, and who, gendrally
speaking, were fit persons to be present at the dis-
cussion of a ,Bill of this kind—he thought that
measures' of this kind ought to be discussed by per-
sons of that description. It was their' duty to regard
with care the ecclesiastical policy of that Country ;
it was at their request he made this Motion, and the
reason why he proposed so long a period :was, to af-
ford time to go over • the Assizes, for many Trish
'Gentlemen would not be able to attend sooner. With
,respea, to arguments on the Clauses of , the Bill he
should trouble the Housewith but few, and the House
would excuse him for using any. The first conside-
ration upon the 'Bill itself, independent of the absence
of those to ;whom hehad alluded, was, that it had not
been debated, • which was a very strong objeCtion.—
The second reason against the Bill was ,ft very strong
one, although the Learned Doctor shad made use of
it .to support the Bill, 'namely, that it was.taken
verbatim from the Bill for England. That was a ri-
dieulous reason, for the Do6tor, himself would al-
low, that it is possible for 'a Provision to be ex-
tremely right for one Country, and extremely wrong
fof another, because the situation of the Countries
may be.extremely different; And in point of fat the
situation of the persons in Ireland who were to be
aifeaed by this Bill was totally different from
that of the Clergy of England ; for in. Ireland there
were many planes where there was no globe, and
Parishes where there were no inhabitants ; and
therefore that which suited one Country very well
might. be totally unsuitable to another. So a taylor
might make a coat to fit one than very well, but it
might not fit another ; the argument of the Learned
DoCtorwas like, the argument of a bad taylor, who
reasoned that a coat he tavde must fit any body, be-
cause it happ6ned to fit one person—so here, the,.
Learned Doctor contended, that this Bill would suit
Ireland, because it was proved it had' suited England,
although the situation of the two-Countries was, to-
tally'distina.. There were, as he bad said already,
many places in Ireland where there was no glebe,
and parishes without' parishioners, so that in many
instances this Bill wbuld be perfealy impraaicable,
and that was another reason why the argument of
the Learned Dooctor,. in favoUr of the Bill, was a
'bad one. He meant, however, no disreped to the
Learned Doelor, • for, certainly, nobody knew the
situation of the Clergy of Ireland' better than he did;
but,there were persons to be affeeted by this Bill
who had no seats in the Hosise of Commons, al-
though they had votes for Members, and it Was' fit
that some discussion should be had .on the provi-
sionS of the. Bill. , It was Very possible' that the
Learned Doaor was perfectly right in persisting in
this measure, butle ought to have an .opportunity
of proving the propriety of his Bill'by much better
'arguments than .he had hitherto urged in support of
it, and when other Members of the House should
be ready, to meet him. He believed there was a
clause in the Bill by which it was provided, that the
residence of the Clergytnan, should be ." such as the
Bishop should think fit." This might be right or
wrong; he was not deciding on it, but he was con-
fident it was matter fit for discussion. To take the
case, for insumee, of an old Clergyman : suppose
a letter were written to such a person, requesting
hiM to vote for a particular Candidate to represent
'the County in Parliament; and . suppose such.old
Clergyman refused 'so to vote, and then he should
be immediately directed to reside, upon his glebe
Without ,pariShioners.—" What 'a Vexatious power
(said Mr. Grattan) you put into the band of a poli-
tical Bishop—l do not say there. are any such Bishops
in Ireland—but if there should ever happen to'be
any such, you give them power to harass the in-
ferior Clergy. These are the reasons why I have
moved the postponement of the Bill ; and I would
only add, that if it be postponed, there are others
who will attend the discussion, and who will be
able to answer the Learned DoClor better than
myself."
Dr. DUIGENAN said there was t'so reason to
complain of this Bill being hastened . too much; it
was brought in three weeks ago, and, said he, -4‘ if
it haSpot been debated, why did not the Right Hon.
Gentleman debate it ?" The second reading was
postponed three weeks; if the Right Hon. Gentle-
rn'ais Meant to debate it, whose fault is it that it was
riot debated ? As to the obserVation, that there is
not a'sufficient number-of Irish Members in this
House, there are at this tithe in town, as I am cre-
dibly informed,' no less than 70 out of the oo ;
and if so; there no prospect that we shall litive
a fuller attendance of Trish Members after the As-
size's:than there is an 'opportunity of having now.
With' respeCt
.to some -ot the observations which
were Made by the Right Hon. Gentleman, I du not
,
pretend to powers fit to contend with 'them ; he.
says ;,-.imt A bad taylor cannot tnahe
'.his coat to fit,
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L ONDOIV,

FRIDAY, '7%IARCH 14, 1806.

WE are not among the number of those who
doubt the sincerity of BONAPARTE, when be says he
desires a PeacOwith England, because, in the pre-
sent-posture of the affairs of Europe, such an event
would. be highly advantageous to him. It would re-
lieve him from the- apprehensions which, notwith-
standing all his viEtories, he cannot but entertain, and
it would enable hitn to proceed, almost without in-
terruption, in the execution of his ambitious plans:
He has, it ,is true, triumphed over the House of
Austria, and diminished its power ; hut still the
'EmiEtton of GERMANY is not so reduced as, nor to
be a formidable opponent to France, particularly if
supported by 'Russia. In his Address to the Legis-
lative Body, BONAPARTE speaks, though rather in
mysterious terms, of his confidence in the, future
disposition ofthe EmiEEoE-Of GEEmAtcy but what
ever he may think it-.expedient. to say , upon that
subje&, he is much to shrewd a Politician to
feel any grPat confidence in the friendly dispo-
sition of a Prince whom he .has. both' insulted
and injured. With respea to the KING of
PRUSSIA, BONAPARTE does not express any confi-
dence in his friendly dispositions ; he does not even
allude to him in his SPeech; andwe cannot sukose,
that if that friendly and intimate connexion subsisted
between France and Prussia, which is so confidently
asserted in the French Papers, that be would have
omitted to mention it upon such au occasion. _ Be-
sides, if BONAPARTE were really free from any ap-
prehensions with respe6t to the intentions of Austria
and Prussia, he would not, we think, feel it necessary
to keep so large an Army in Gerinany, because, if
his objeta were merely to levy contributions upon
defenceless States, a much Smaller Force would
be sufficient for that purpose. He knows also;
that the. EMPEROR of RUSSIA, so 14- from hav-
ing abandoned the noble plan he bad form-
ed for restoring the Independence of Europe, is
ready to, devote the Whdle force of his Empire to'
the accomplishment of so deslrable and important an
; • I . .
objet. Under these'circumstances, a Peace with
'England would undoubtedly be highly advantageous
to BONAPARTE; bat there can be nd doubt that if
it were concluded, he would only adhere 'to it until
he had organiied all:his.plans on the Continent, and
until he had' reduced it to such a situation as would
enable him., without interriiption, to employ the
whole of his force against thiS Country. His 16-
Sty's Ministers Must !be 'aWare. of his intentions,
ioTl4ca*. i.;lj,icb he feels
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against Great Britain, a-d therefore will not, we
are convinced, consent to any Peace' which, tho:01
it would afford a temporary repse, might lay tits
foUpdatiou of the Future ruin of the Country.

There seems to have been some precipitation in
the removal of Lord IIEDESDSLE from the Chancery
Seat in Ireland, and the manner, according to his
Lordship's account of it, appears tb have been ra-
ther ungracious. But it should be observed, that as
the Catholic Body of that Kingdoba manifest a spi-
Pt of forbearance and moderation, as is strikingly
evident in their determination_ not to embarrass. Go..
yernment at present with- their Claims, it might,
be thought a measure of expedience not to let the
highest Judicial Situation in the Country remain in
the hands of a Nobleman who had appeared particu-
larly adverse to their hopes and. expe&ations.

The Additional Article of Impeachment againa •
Lord IVIELmLE was yesterday taken into considera.
tion in the Upper House, upon the Motion of Lord •
A 4 C!j LAND. His Lordship observed, that nD pre-
cedents could be found which bore an exa& analogy. ,
with the case in question, but that the cases Gf
Lord STR4FF9RD, Of the Loan MAYOR of London, in
1942, aucl of the Ear! of DA.NpY, were nearly simi.
jar, and seemed to prove, that al accuse,d person
,might be required to answer Additiopal Articles, if
brought forward within a reasonable period. Upon.
, • •
a Motion of his Lordship, it was then ordered that
Lord IVlAr.vu.a.E should be furnished witha Copy of
the AdditiOnal Article, and be required to put in his
Answer this day fortnight. It was also ordered that'
the Additional Article sbould be,printed,

Count. NIULIPTER, the new Hanoverian Minister,
in the room ofßaron PE LENTHE, had an interview
.
yesterday with Mr. Secretary Fox, at his Office in.

. _
Downin-street_
Lord-and Lady GagNvlrmp gave an elegant dinner
yesterday, at Camelford 1--Luse, to a sele4 party v,
friends, consisting of the following Nobility and
Gentry :—Loids GLASTONBURY, BOSTON, and MA:-
HON ; General GRENVIILii, Lady RESTER STAW-•
HOPE, Lady BANKS, Mr. IRBY, Miss BANKS, and
Miss "Ray. • • '

Earl MotRA gave. a grand dinner yesterday to lc
seleet party of private friends, at his house, in St.
James's Place.

Mr. GREY entertained a select party of friends
yesterday; at his house in the Admiralty.
The Countess of LOUDON and MOIRA'S tenants
upon the estate of Rowallan, met at Fenwick on the,
loth ult. and celebrated the happy event of her La-
dy ship's being delivered of a daughter and heiress,
with great festivity. •
A Letter was yesterday received from Glasgow, in
which it.was incidentally mentioned that the Ameri-
cans had declared War against Spain, but we appre-
hend it is the report which preyailed here last week,
and not founded upon any new Intelligence ; yet
many people seem to expo* t it,
Copy of the Tenth Article of the Treaty between
this Country and America,as settled in the year 1794;
Neither the debts due from individuals of the
one nation to the individuals of the other, nor shares,
nor tnonies which they may have in Public Funds;
or in the public or private Banks, shall ever, in any
event of tsar or national differences, be sequestered
or confiscated, it being unjust and impolitic that
debts and engagemA,ts.• contrueted and made by in- .
dividuals, having confidence in each oth.gr, an¢ it}
their respective Governrneutsi should ever be det4'
stroyed or impaired by national'authority; on account
of national differences and diSc'elnents." Had' 4ie
American Legislature.adoptad thF, intemperate pror
posal for confiscating private debts, for the indemni.,.
fication of seamen pressed into our service, it wc2;214
have been a violation of this Article, and a brea4n
of national faith.

Letters fro'm Amsterdam state; that tilt Court
Martial have concluded the prostecution against t to
.Commissary General, BEURANGEA, and colonel A.
TENBURG... The insubordination of the Colonel;
whose accusation sivas gathered out of Air. BERRA-
GER'S defence, has not been proved, and he ba-
therefore, been acquitted. The Co.ninissary
ral is conviaed of not having peribrined his duty as
Governor at Surinam, and is deolaled disqualified for
the future to be invested with Soy public trust 'n
Republic. )1
The fall of snow was so heavy in Kent, on Wed,
nesday, the Dover coach wis yesterday greatly re,
tarded in its progres's to to-rn. Upon its arrival at
Barham' Downs, a complete stop took place, the
snow being there of the ar:iiizing depth of ten feet.
The Mail was taken out oi the
_coach, and forward-
ed by a Messenger, on horseback, to town, where it
did not arrive until two o'clock. A great number
of men were colleded,on ifathatu Downs, who cut
a passage through the.snow for the coach, and ena-
bled it to continue. its journey. It did not arrive in
London until six o'clock at night.

A Court of Common CounT:ii was held yesterday
at Guildhall, at which were present, the LORD
MAYOR, six Aldermen, the Recorder, Sheriffs, &c.
and a great number of,Cdmmouers:
The, Minutes of (he last. Court Were read, and
confirmed. • ,

Several Deeds 'were Sealed with the City Seal.
The LORD MAYOR laid before the Court a letter
he had received from Capt. Sir Tuomns- MASTER..
MAN HARDY, Baronet, acknowledging the receipt
of his Lordship's Letter, enclosing the Vote of Thaulcs
of the Court of Common Council, together with the
'reedom of the City of London, and a valuable
Sword ; and expressive of his high sense of the fa.-
yourable opinion 'the Court entertains of him, and
that he would use his utmost endeavours to merit
the same.

The Court voted the sum of-2001. to be paid out
of the City's Cdsh, to`warde the expenee 'of building
a Protestant EpiScopal Church in the City of Mon-
treal.

• The Court also voted. the sum of 5001. in aid of
the Funds of the Society for educating the Deaf ;Ind
Dumb Children of the 1)9or,