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The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.
The Newport Docks Bill was read a third time and
passed.

Lord JAMES STEWART presented two petitions from
Ayr, and Lord DALMENY presented a petition from Stirl-
ing, in favour of a uniform rate of penny postage.
On the motion of Mr. R. PALMER, the Reading
Cizporation Estate Bill was read a third time and passed.
The Lords' amendments to the White Lead Company
Bill were agreed to.
Mr. C. LUS HINGTON presented a petition from the
Ministers and Elders of a congregation in Perth, against
the monopoly of the Queen's printer in Scotland, and pray-
ing that it might not be renewed.
Mr. BE A MIK' presented a petition from Cork, com-
plaining of certain excise regulations.
Mr. PARKER presented a petition from the Chamber
of Commerce, Sheffield, and from the Protestant Dissenters
of Sheffield, in favour of a uniform penny postage.
Lord J. RUSSELL brought up the Ecclesiastical Pre-
ferments Suspension' Bill, which was read a first time.
Mr. C. BULLER presented a petition from F. Wardle,
of the City of Londonderry, to which he wished to direct
the attention of the House, as it complained of a grievance
iiithcted by an Act of Parliament. A petition was presented
against the return for the City of Londonderry at the last
election, and the petitioner was compelled to attend the
Committee as a witness. He had received a certificate
from the late Speaker, entitling him to receive 1261.-10 s.
from Mr. Watts, who had petitioned against the return.
Mr. Watts had paid him 100 L, and had refused to pay him
the balance. The Act `of George IV. specified that, in
such cases, the amount of costs might be recovered by an
action of debt in the Courts at Westminster, but thera was
no enactment stating how debts were to be recovered in
Ireland. Consequently the Courts of Westminster had
no jurisdiction in this case, and conld not compel the at-
tendance of the defendants, consequently the only remedy
given to the petitioner was absolutely unavailable in law.
He believed the same evil existed with regard to Scot-
land. There was still one remedy open to him, he might
proceed against the recognizances, but they bad been dis-
charged by the verdict of the Committee, for as soon as the
Committee had presented their Report the recognizances
were discharged. The petitioner complained that he was
therefore without any remedy, and was unable to recover
the sum of money due to him. The case was one of pe-
culiar hardship, and he was anxious to call the attention
of the House to it. The Hon. Member was proceeding
to read at length the allegations in the petition, when
An HoN. MEMBER rose to order.

The SPEAKER said, if the individual grievance was
one requiring immediate redress, the Hon. Member might
read the petition at length, but not otherwise.
The petition was then read at length by the clerk at the
table.

Lord ASHLEY presented petitions from Blackburn
and Manchester against the Government plan of national
education.

NEW WRIT.

On the motion of Mr. BERNAL, a new writ was
ordered for the Borough of Ipswich, in the room of
Thomas M. Gibson, Esq., who had accepted the office of
Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds.—(Hear, hear, from
the Opposition benches. )

Mr.' -O'CONNELL gave notice that on Tuesday next
he should call the attention of the House, to the petition
of Mr. Bradshaw.

Mr. G. PALMER gave notice that he should to-
morrow bring under the notice of the House the Report
of the Committee on Shipwrecks, and move for leave to
bring in a Bill to prevent vessels loading their decks with
timber, on coming from British North America, after the
lit of September next.

IRISH MUNICIPAL BILL.
Mr. SHAW gave notice of certain amendments, which
it was his intention to move in Committee, on the Irish
Municipal Bill. They were rather long, and therefore he
would hand a copy of them in, so that they might be
printed with the Votes. In substance some of them
were as follows. First, he proposed to preserve
the rights of freemen under the Irish Reform Act by the
present Bill. He proposed to amend the franchise clause,
so as to substitute a 101 franchise, composed of the net
annual value at which the premises should be rated under
the Poor-law Act and the landlord's repairs, for the a
franchsie proposed by the Bill. To omit the 92d clause,
which would qualify all rated inhabitants of parishes after
three years' residence. He proposed to insert a clause
compelling the proper officers to publish a list of those
who paid rates. That the Roman Catholic oath should
not be dispensed with. That compensation be given
to the Lord Mayor of Dublin. To insert a restric-
tion as to the 9th of George the Fourth, requiring a
uniform rate of taxation, instead of a graduated scale. To
omit the 121st clause, as to the appointment of Sheriffs.
To alter the 198th clause, which bad reference to new char-
ters of incorporation, so as to substitute the majority of
qualified rate- payers for general inhabitant householders ;
and lastly, to insert clauses providing for the due auditing
of public accounts. _ _

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
Lord J. RUSSELL then gave notice that he should,
to.rnerrow, move the second reading of the Canada Bill ;
and as be did not anticipate much time wculd be con-
sumed in discussing that Bill, he proposed after it to
p:oceed with the Irish Corporation Bill. As there
was very little private business, now before the House,
he wou!d propose, unless some objection was offered
on the part of the House, that in future the House should
proceed with the public business at half-past four to-
morrow.—( Hear, hear.)

,
Mr. F. BARING brought up the Report of the Corn-
mittee on the River Shannon Navigation.
BANK OF IRELAND.

Mr. HUME said the Chancellor of the Exchequer had
promised, day after day, that a time should be fixed for the
discussion on the Irish Bank. Ho thought there seemed to
be an indisposition to his proceeding with his motion re-
specting the Bank of England, after what took place last
night. He wished to know whether the Chancellor of the
Exchequer would fix a day for the discussion on the Irish
Bs.nk question. If not, he (Mr. Hume) would take the
opportunity of bringing it on on the first Supply day.
Sir F. BURDETT inquired whether the Government
had obtained any further information respecting the re-
ported outrage upon the British flag in the Mexican Seas?
Mr. C. WOOD said there was not the slightest
foundation for the report ; it was wholly and utterly
without foundation.—( Hear, hear.)
In answer to Mr. HUME,
Lord J. RUSSELL said, he could not fix any day for
a discussion upon the Bank of Ireland.
Mr. MACKINNON moved the second reading of the
Turnpike Trust Bill.
Mr. F. MAULE said he would propose that the Hon.
Member should postpone the further progress of the 13111
for a time, as the whole question was now before a Com-
mission composed of Members of both Houses of Parlia-
ment.

Mr. MACKINNON said he should move then that the
Bill be committed this day week, and after that, consider-
ing the lateness of the Session, he supposed that it would
not proceed much further. He begged to state that he
had no wish to interfere with the progress of the Commis.
sion which had been appointed by the Crown, nor to act in
opposition to her Majesty's Ministers upon the subject.
Sir E. KNATC H BULL said, under the circumstances
he could not help thinking it would be better not to carry
the Bill any further.—( Hear, hear.) Certainly, he should
object to the second reading of the Bill if it was thereby
intended to pledge the House to the principle on which
they should legislate next Session.—( Hear.)
Sir C. BURRELL said, unless something was done by
the Legislature, one half of the Turnpike Trusts in the
kingdom would soon be ruined—( Hear, hear)--and he
should bring in a Bill as speedily as possible to remedy the
evil, and restore the Trusts to a healthy condition.
Mr. MACKINNON withdrew the Bill.
PRISONS (SCOTLAND) BILL.

Mr. F. NIAULE moved the order of the day for the
further consideration of the Report oa the Prisons (Scot-
land) Bill.

Sir W. RAE said that the Bill was so changed in its
character since it was last before the House, that he felt

bound to call the attention of Hon. Members to what its
provisions now really were. As regarded the general
state of prisons in Scotland, and the improvement of them,
he believed that no difference existed. The great ques.
tion was as to the manner in which those improvements
were to be carried into effect. It had been proposed by
her Majesty's Government that three general prisons
should be established in Scotland. Now Honour-
Members on that side of the House thought that three
general prisons in Scotland were unnecessary.
Another objection was that it proposed to make a general
assessment throughout Scotland, without any refe-
rence to the expense which might he incurred by
each county. In his opinion, in Scotland as well
es in England, each county should bear the expense
of its own prisoners. All alterations, however, had
been resisted in the Bill. Himself and his friends had
opposed these clauses in Committee. It had been unsuc-
cessful. Another day had been fixed, and they felt they
were exposing themselves to the imputation of endea-
vouring to defeat a measure for the general improvement
he
of Scotch prisons. Under these circumstances, in order
to prevent misunderstanding, be had put on paper_a,
andla p
by which they proposed to accomplish the same ends,
had
complained. He bad transmitted a
had which would not be open to the objections of which
remainedcopyd
t been agreed to.
Such u t to put the
of d
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Home
beingme Office,th eanndastehenntethrminso pnroowposcd
measure into proper shape. The terms agreed to were,
that one depot should be established, to the fitting
up of which the Mooed. alrl. was y
voted should be
applied. An additional 20,000
as to be assessed
on all Scotland, in order to complete the fittings up ;
the expenses of the prisoners. in the depot were to be de-
frayed by the towns by wbic h they were to be sent. The
expenses of the local prisons were to fall entirely on the
counties. Under there circumstances, he did not wish to
throw any obstructions in the way of the Bill.
Mr. .FOX MAULS said this Bill proceeded on the
same principle as other Bills that had passed the House,
and which had not met with any opposition.
After a few words from Mr. PRINGLE,
The House went into Committee on the Bill, Mr.
BERNAL in the Chair.
Clauses 1 to 8 were agreed to.
On clause 9 being proposed;
Sir G. CLERK suggested that at this clause all those
parts of the Bill relating to the constitution of the Local
Boards should be taken in.
Mr. F. MAULE said it would be better to consider,

EVENING EDITION

this Bill now as it stood. When it had passed he meant
to have an analysis made of its provisions.
The clause waa agreed to, and clauses 10 and 11.
On clause 12,
Mr. CHALMERS moved tiect the words " and the
burghs situate therein," be struck out.
Mr. F. MA ULE objected to the proposal.
After a few observations from Sir H. PARNELL and Sir
W. RAE,
Mr. CHALMERS said he should object to the clause
altogether, unless the burghs were struck out of it.
Mr. HUME hoped the Committee would adopt the
claus,?,. -
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, but no divi-
sion took place, the amendment being negatived without it.
The clause, as amended, was then agreed to.
Clauses 13, 14, and 15 were agreed to isithout obser-
vation.

On clause 16 being read,
Sir G. CLERK suggested some verbal amendment,
which was agreed to, and the clause ordered to stand part
of the Bill.
Clauses up to 23 were agreed to without observation.
On clause 24 being read,
Mr. GILLON suggested that the day on which the
Commissioners of Supply were to meet was rather vague,
and that it would be better to fix some particular day for
that purpose.
After a few words from Mr. F. MAUL E, the amend-
ment was agreed to, and the clause ordered to stand part of
the Bill.
Clauses up to 39 were- agreed to with a few verbal
amendments.
On clause 40 being proposed,
Mr. GILL ON moved that the words " County B )ard"
be inserted in place of " Commissioners of Supply," as the
parties who should melte the assessments upon the counties.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but no division took
place, and the clause was agreed to.
Clauses up to 57 were agreed to.
Clauses 58, 59, 60, 61, 62 and 63, were also agreed to.
Mr. HUME objected to clause 64 on the ground that it
did not specify what Acts it proposed to repeal.
The LORD ADVOCATE said it would repeal all
Acts since 1598.
Mr. HUME observed, so much the worse, and unless
the Acts were specified he should move that the clause be
struck out.
Mr. FOX MA ULE—Do you intents then to bring up
another clause ?
Mr. HUME—That's your duty, not mine. ,
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House
divided. There were—
For the clause
Against it ,
Majority in favour of the clause
The remaining clauses were agreed to, and the House
resumed. The Chairman reported progress, and the Report
was ordered to be brought up to-morrow.
SUPREME COURTS (SCOTLAND) BILL.

On the motion of the LORD ADVOCATE, the
Order of the Day for the third reading of this Bill was
read, and
Mr. GILLON rose to move that it be read a third time
that day three months. The Bill proposed to give large
and increased salaries to public servants who bad
never bad very much work to do, and whose
labour was now gradually decreasing. The Bill had been
so often discussed that he did not think much new light
could be thrown upon it, unless the new Lord Advocate
was able to saw scything in justification of so profuse an
expenditure of the public money. In 1786 the salaries
of the puisne Judges amounted to 1,0001. a-year ; in 1800
to 1,2801., and in 1810 they were increased to 2,0001.
That increase was made on the ground of increased price
of commodities and the necessaries of life; but since the
war the price of those commodities had fallen one-third.
There were not more than three men at the Scotch bar
who realised 3,0001. a-year by their practice ; there were
not more than four men who realised 2,000/. a-year by
their practice at that bar; and upon this subject he would
quote the opinion of Sir Robert Peel before the Com-
mittee cf 1834, who stated that a Counsel realising 3,0001.
'a
-year by his professional practice would be very glad to
accept the situation of a puisne Judge, even at a salary of
2,0001. a-year, in consideration of the comparative
digrety and ease he would then enjoy.--(Haar, hear.)
He was aware that the opinion of Jeffrey had
often been quoted against him on this subject, but Jeffrey,
although the most emiaent man at the bar, had himself
accepted the situation of puisne Judge. Again, he would
observe, that there were a great many more Judges than
necessary, in fact, the bar had been drained, and if four
vacancies occurred on the bench to-morrow, be did not
believe four individuals could be found who were capable
of discharging the duties of a Judge. He would also ob-
serve that they only sat one hour and a half a day, for
about five months in the year, and the business of these
Courts was gradually decreasing, for the law expenses
were so great that there was an increasing aversion among
the people of Scotland to law.—(Hear, bear.) Let the

Houle consider whether the circumstances of the country
were such that they could afford this extravagant expendi-
ture of the public money. He would be agreeably sur-
prised it on Friday next the Chancellor of the Exchequer
did not tell them it was his painful duty to oppose the
repeal of certain taxes, on the ground that the revenue
was not in a very prosperous state ; and if that were the
case, he did not see hew they could justify such proftnion.
He did not think, by such a course, they would succeed in
stifling the cries of the unrepresented millions, while the
hand-loom weavers had to support their wivcs and families
on 4s. GI a week, ground to the earth as they were, from
the cradle to the grave, by oppressive taxation.
Mr. HUME seconded the amendment. He considered
_ _ _

his Bill to be one of the grossyst jobs that had for some

time come under the consicierationwof the House. He had
always objected to the appointment of thirteen Judges, for a
population little more than that of Yorkshire and Lancashire
united. It appeared to him, considering the duties they
had to do, that it was the very acme of extravagance. But
it remained for a reforming economical Ministry, to bring
forwa-d such an Act as this. It was a most unjustifiable
measure, and preceding Governments had not dared
to propose it. No cne was in favour of the Bill but
the lawyer:.—(Cries of " Hear, hear, hear.") There
was not a sensible or honest man in Scotland, that
did not cry cut against it.--( honied cries of " Hear,
hear.) Not one.—(Cries of " Oh, oh.) He only spoke
of his own correspondents.—( Laughter.) He admitted
that lawyers and those who were likely to benefit by it might
be in favour of it. The establishments of the country were
every year going on increasing instead of decreasing, and
it was on this ground that he objected to the present Bill,
and should divide the House on the third reading. But
there were other objections. He bad offered, if the num-
ber of Judges should be reduced to an adequate number,
and employment s'inibtr to that of the English Judges
should be aErtied to them, he would agree to their being
paid in pr4ottion. But while the English and Irish
Judges retired on two-thirds only of their salary, the Scotch
Judges were to retire on their full salary, and this too, on
an iNcreased salary. Unless there were some secrets
which had not yet been divulged, he considered this Bill
contrary to the sound principles on which the House ought
to act. If the Bill should be read a third time, he hoped
the clituse which allowed the retiring salaries would be ea-

punged.
Sir GEORGE SINCLAIR was very indistinctly
heard in the gallery. We understood him to say that
when this Bill was last b.fore the House he was prevented
from stating certain facts which he now wished to put the
House in possession. of. He felt much gratified in standing
forward as the advocate of the claims of some of the most
enlightened public functionaries in the empire.—(Hear.)
This was not a parry question, for it had been taken up
by Members on both sides, and he rejoiced that her Ma-
jesty's Ministers had given way to the wishes so generally
expressed, and fixed the increase at the amount which the
majority of the Scotch Members believed to be indispensa-
ble. The question was %hailer the Court of Session
deserved to be placed on a level with the other tribunals
of the country. It had been a sort of target, at which the
shafts of vituperation had been almost universally di-
rected. The salaries of the English and Scotch Judges
had gone on pani passe until of late years. In 1809 an
augmentation of both took place. In 1825 an augmenta-
tion of the salaries of the Engliss Judges took place,
but na corresponding one on the part of the
Judges in Scotland. In 1830 a great number of
judicial offices were abolished in Scotland. _ The

Judges were not consulted with regard to those altera.
tious, because it was understood that an augmentation in
the salaries should take place in consequence of the in-
creased deties thrown upon them. At thst time a change
in the Government took place, and the public attention was
so much occupied with the Reform Bill, that the question
was not mooted again till 1834, when he (Sir G. Sinclair)
moved for a committee, which was agreed to, which Com-

mittee reported that 3,0001. a year ought to be allowed to
the puisne Judges as a salary; and the necessity of this re
commendation was borne out by Earl Grey, Lord Jeffrey,
Lord Brougham, Sir R. Peel, Sir S. LuAington and others.
twohlaht.ewaass
htheeoaumghotun
ttoofdroa,laarnydnehceesaosanry.
sufficient. The Honourable Member for Kilkenny
ttToehneedneciadbuleteslataaio!nutwhise'amount proposed was not more than
after
the re Bmial
seemed to thick of nothing but tie time which
the Judges were employed in the Court, just as if they
were journeymen carpenters. He repudiated the notion
altogether on which the amendment had been moved, and
should support h
rl'lts of the Hon.
The LORD ADVOCATE would not detain the
use
tmoann' observations
aft of thehose services on this subject he could bear
te third reading
the most ample testimony ; and he would not have troubled
the House at all, but for the manner in which be had
been alluded to by the mover and seconder of the amend-
ment, who had expressed great anxiety that he should
state some new ground in support of the alteration pro-
posed. He should have met that challenge without hesi.
tation, if he had heard any ,new grounds of abjection
stated; but it seemed to him somewhat extraordinary that
when the Bill came to a third reading, objections should
be urged which had been answered over and over again,
and that he should be asked to state some new answer to
these objections. It was said that the Judges only sat for
half a )ear, and only attended about two hours a day.
It was said the Judges sat only for a few hours each day,
and so on, without any distinction in respect to individuals

, .
however distinguished, were they characterised. But it
should be recollected that the greater part of the official
duties of the Scotch Judges were not discharged in pub.
lic.—( Hear, hear.) It might or might not be an objec
tion to the forms of judicial proceeding in Scotland that
they were mostly in writing—it might or might not be un,
fortunate that oral pleading was not more general—but he
(the Lord Advocate) bad to speak of the forms as they
existed; and this he. cculd declare, that the Judges of
Scotland, especially those of the Inner Court, had tb,
greater part of their duties to perform out of CoLtrk. 14;
entitled to respect, and that the
high office shouldavneeovredrinbge
coed riot, he trusted, remind the House that the judicial
tl
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hoffioldceerws ass
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In the come of the present session two
tom, the arguments of counsel on both sides were reduced
to writing—( Hear, hear, from Mr. Wallsce)—and with
cases had occurred, in which,
the documents, &c., necessary to introduce, occupied in the
one case 600 printed pages quarto, and in the other 1,000,
(Hear, hem-, from the same lion. Member.) The argu.

i ments of the parties were so well stated in these written
1 papers that the Learned Counsel at the bar said they would
) not waste the time of the Court by saying anything. To
alt appearance, therefore, the case would have :seemed to
.1 go off with a few words; whereas the Judges had, in
1 reality, all this enormous mass of argument to read through
i at home, and he was quite sure that read through it was,
with attention and care, such as the importance of the case
1 and the responsibility of their office demanded.—( Hear,
hear, hear.) And he knew that the duties of the Learned
Judges were often so onerous as to compel them to tres-
pass considerably upon their vacations. A return, he was
I aware, had been ordered by that House of the number of
. 1 days during which the Courts of Scotland had sat. That
I return would, he was persuaded, present a very false plc-
i ture—( Hear, hear)—but if, in addition to that, a return
' were ordered of the number and length of the documents
read through by the Judges in the course of the year, the
result would be far different. L had been said that there
were some secret, unavowed reasons for pressing this Bill.
He (the Lord Advocate) knew of none except such as ex-
isted in the jealousies of some Hon. Members. Of this he
was quite sure, that the promoters of the Bill would at any
time be perfectly ready to defend it.--( Hear, hear.) With
reference to the attack which had been made upon Lord
1 Jeffrey, he (the Lord Advocate) knew that when his Noble
and Learned Friend left his profession, he was at the head
of it--that his labours in that house had greatly impaired
his health ; that he was himself unwilling to go to the
Bench, though, anxious that the country should not lose his
services, he reluctantly yielded to the solicitations that
pressed him to accept the judicial office, of which he was
now so great an ornament.—( Hear, hear.) It could not
be questioned that the emoluments of the judicial office in
Scotland were not such as to tempt those practitioners at
the Bar who were at the head of their profession.—( Hear,
hear.) And if ever there was an office on which a fair
*id just liberality might legitimately be exercised, it most
i assuredly was the judicial.—( Hear, hear.) Much had
been said as to the alleged extravagance of the retiring
allowances fixed by this Bill. It bad been objected that
Judges were allowed to retire upon full salary. And this
had been stated as if a Judge might be appointed to morrow
to the bench, occupy the station for a few weeks, and then
retire on full salary. Now the provision was, that a Judge
seventy years of age, after fifteen years' service, might
retire on full salary. Was it not important to the public
interests that a Judge arrived at such an age, and after
such a service, should be relieved from the painful neces-
sity of balancing in his own mind the propriety of remain-
ing in an office the duties of which he could no longer
efficiently discharge—or, by retiring, relinquish the possi-
bility of earning a few more hundreds a year for his family?
—( Hear, hear.) Surely there was in such a provision no
great danger of extravagance in the distribution of public
funds ?—nor in the provision that a Judge afflicted with
some permanent disabling disease might also retire on fug
allowance ?—( Hear, hear.) Under all these circumstances
he trusted the majority of the House would sanction the
Bill.—( Hear.)
Mr. WALLA CE said be conceived that he was one of
the " triumvirate" of opponents to this Bill it ho had been
alluded to.—(A laugh.) Certainly he had always been
opposed to granting the public money when be was quite
convinced it was not required.—( Hear, hear.) He agreed
in characterising the Bill as about the most nefarious job
ever seen in that flouse.—( Hear, hear.) He begged
leave to correct the Lord Advocate as to the Judges' re.
tiring allowances, with regard to which the Learned Lord
was quite mistaken—(Hear, hear)—as he would see if he
did but read the 13th clause, which " enacted that a Judge
Of the Court of Session, who shall have attained the age
of 70, and shall have acted as such for a. period of 15
years, or if any Judge of the said Court shall be afflicted
with any permanent infirmity incapacitating him from the
1 discharge of his duty, such Judge, in the event of his re-
signation, shall receive the full retiring allowance."—
( Hear, hear.) There had not been in all that had
been said by the Learned Lord Advocate, or by the half-
learned Member for Caithness (Sir George Sinclair) any
thing new, except indeed those facetious outbreaks in which
the Hon. Baronet had indulged, and which he (Mr. Wal-
lace) did not think it necessary to notice. The salaries
of the Judges were about to be raised by this Bill. What
for ? How was their time occupied? He was not to be
deterred by any pleasantries from pursuing this inquiry
as to time, which, after all, he considered a main
point to be kept in view.—( Hear, hear, hear.)
And it should be borne in mind that these Judges
did not sit more than five months in the year, or more than
two hours in the day. And those voluminous pleadings— i
those lengthy documents—which had been alluded to as in I
justification, were in fact what was complained of.—( Hear,
hear.) No personal imputations were cast upon the Judges
--though it was always the trick of the Lord Advocate of
the day to speak as if it were a question of the Judge's per-
sonal character.—( Hear, hear.) With all respect for the
I Judges, he ( Mr. W.) attacked the system_( Hear)—and he
detested and despised the system of the Court of Session
—the people of his country agreed with him, in respect-
ing their Judges—but abhorring the system—( Hear,
hear)—for which they had good reason, seeing the expense
and delay attending upon the proceedings in this Court.
The Judges had two long vacations in the year—one of
four months, the other of two; and on the 12.11 July they
would disperse through the country, and none of
them be in Edinburgh before the 12th November.
--( Hear, hear.) Why, if a Judge only devoted
half his time to the duties of his office, it might
justly be said that his salary was at a double rate
of that which he received ; a Judge, who sat only five
months in the year, and received 2,0001. a year, did vir-
tually receive at the rate of 4,000/. a year.—( Hear, hear.)
I In Eagland and Ireland the Judges sat ten months in the
year. This was his (Mr. Wallace's) argument for reducing
the number of the Judges—that their time might be as
fully occupied as that of the others. Those innumerable
piles of printed documents which had been spoken
of were caused by the rules that these Judges them-
selves framed. It was not the law, but Judges made
law ; and he believed sincerely that they kept
up the system, because they saw it was impossible other-
wise to retain their situations. fie had often before de-
clared this, and he now repeated it before a new Lord
Advocate.—( A laugh.) It was said that tome. new duties
were thrown upon; the Judges, but this would not impose
upon them the necessity of sitting any longer than they
did at present. Then it should be remembered that the
number of causes was yearly decreasing, had been so
for the last ten years, and would doubtless continue
so decreasing.—( Hear, hear.) He had moved for an J
enquiry into the subject ; he was not at all surprised that
Dr. Lushington, and other Judges, should bare declared
their opinions that Judges could not be too highly paid—
( A laugh)—it was all in their own way ; every other body
would have done the same ; members of the same profession
would alwa!3 " hark together," as sportsmen would say—
" on the same scent,"—when that " scent" might
put anything into their pockets.—( Loud laughter.)
Another reason why the present system was agreeable to
lawyers was, that on the 12th of March the Scotch lawyers
came to the House of Lords upon appeals, and it was
notorious that there were twice the number of appeals from
Scotland to the House of Lords than there were from all
other pelts of the United Kingdom. He conceived the
title of the Bill ought to be as follows :—" A Bill to regu-
late the duties to be perforieed by the Judges of the Su-
preme Court of Scotland so as to increase their present
state of ease and comfort, by adding largely to their salaries
without adding at all to their judicial duties,
or diminishing the delays, t 1 penses, and ea d less
vexatious created by the breaking up of the Courts during
long vacations." He wcu!il, after the close of the Ses-
sion, appeal to ti.e people cf Edinburgh and the Chartists,
whether this was not the true character of the Bill.—(A
laugh ) .He was sure he would have a show of hands in
his favour. For these reasons he should support the
amendment of his Hon. Frig nd.

4 The ATTORNEY-GENERAL would delay the
blouse for a very few minutes. Nothing new could be
urged on this subject, because all the old objections were
answered byall the old arguments in favour of it, and yr hich
had always proved satisfactory and successful.—( Hear,
bear, hear.) The klon. Member for Greenock had said
he venerated and respected the Judges, and }et he stated
they upheld the present system, for the purpose of their
own private and pecuniary benefit.—(Hear, hear.) He
(the Attorney-Gmeral) believed that if the Hon. Mem-
ber put forth such sentiments even to the Chartists, that
the Chartists would hiss and hoot him, and hold his senti-
ments up to execration.—( Elear, hea:.) It was not right
that such language should be made use of in the House of
Commons. Personally he had no interest in this question
—he would not aspire to a seat on the Scotch Beach, but
as a Scotch representative he would pronounce his clear
and decided opinion to be, that the Bill was a fair, just,
expedient, and politic measure. It had been said
the measure was unpopular. He had received no such
representations from Scotland as had been referred to, and
he was not afraid to meet the Hon. Member before his
constituents respecting the merits of this Bill, but if it
were ever so unpopular he shoul I feel it to b© his duty
to uphold it.—( Hear, hear.) Neither of the triumvirate
had said that .3001. a-year were excessive.
Mr. HUME—We hate all said so.---( Hear, hear.)
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL had not so under-
stood. He denied the number of the Judges was ex-
ceefAe. They had greatly reduced their number already.
The population and wealth of the country were increasing,
and the judicial business was increasing in the same ratio.
There was no ground for saying their number should be
reduced, or that they were not sufficiently occupied.—
( Hear, hear.) A. contrast had been drawn between the
Scotch and the English Judges. Why, the English
Judges were worked too hard.___( Hear, hear, and a laugh.)
And it would be indispensably
judicial strength in England. sarTnheacteswa y tot heincreaseopinio the
opinion he
entertained, and he would have nodifficuslty in expressing
in that House, or elsewhere ;because
by the present
system, they were delaying justice, and violating Magna
Charta by the economy, as it was called, of withholding
reasonable compensation for suchadditional judicial
strength as was wanted. In England there were
nov'
only
the same number of Judges
Edward 111. This Bill had his full consent and reign
of
n
approba
tion, and he believed it would give satisfaction to the people
of Scotland.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. OS WA LD—The Learned Attorney- General had
stated this measure would not be unpopular in Scotland.
He (Mr. Oswald) believed that any increase in the sala.
ries of the Judges at the present moment would be unpo-
pular with nine-tenths of the people of Scotland.
Near, bear, hear.) Why the Supreme Court of
Scotland was a Court which nobody went to that could
possibly help it, it was not for him to explain. There was
a great want of confidence in that Court, why he could
not tell; but it never would have the confidence of the
people unless some alteration took place, of which he
did not pretend to be a judge. He did not believe that
dislike attached to the personal character of the Judges,
but there was something about the Court, or in the opinion
of the public with regard to it, that he would venture to
say there was not another Court in the country that had
so little confidence placed in it. Therefore, the Learned
Attorney-General was in error, when he believed the mea-
sure would be a popular one in Scotland.—( Hear, hear.)
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, when the
House divided.
The numbers were—
For the third reading
Against it .................... 21
Majority......, . ..........
—3O

On our re-admission to the gallery, the Bill having been
read a third time, we found
Mr. WALL ACE on his legs, moving the following
clause to be inserted after clause 12 : —" And be it enacted,
that a return shall be made within fourteen days from the
commencement of every future Session, and be presented
to both Houses of Parliament, setting forth, in columns,
the number of days each Divison of the Inner House has
sat during the Session immediately preceding and also
the number of hours each of the said Divisions usually
sits daily ; and that the said returns shall be
signed by the senior Judge of each Court respectively."
This was one of the most important questions relating to
Scotland that could come before the House. He had re-
ceived a letter from a Mr. Campbell, which he would
read to the House. The letter was addressed to the At-
torny- General, from a correspondent of his in Glasgow,
and clearly pointed out the unjustifiable interference of the
Court of Session with a humane Act of Parliament—namely
the Cessio Bonorum Act. The Hon. 'Member then read
the letter, which strongly deprecated the course pursued
by the Court of Session with respect to Acts of Sederunt.
Now if that letter was founded on fact it was an undoubted
proof of what he had alleged. If the allegations contained
in it were untrue, then the Attorney-General had his cot.
respondent to deal with, and so had he. For his own part,
he would take care that the letter should be made public
through the medium of the press, the Chartist part of it as
well as any other.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member
concluded by proposing the first clause of which he had
given notice.
The LORD ADVOCATE opposed the clause. The
Act of' Sederunt, of which so much had been said by the
Hon. Member for Greenock, was nothing more than a rule
or regulation of the Court with respect to its own proceed-
ings. As to the clause that had been proposed, he could
see no necessity for it, inasmuch as the object it had in
view was already fixed by statute. As to the latter part of
the clause, he considered it would be derogatory to the
Judges themselves, and would give a false picture of what
took place in the Court of Session. He should therefore
give the clause his strenuous opposition.
Mr. HUM E could not see how it could be considered
derogatory to the Judges to make a return of the number
of hours they sat. Who, he would ask, were the men that
refused to give the information but those who were ashamed
that their habits should be known ?—( Hear, hear.) If a
Judge did his duty he (Mr. Hume) thought be could have
no objection to its being known how long he sat.—( Hear. )
He had been asked upon what ground it was that he con-
sidered the Judges of Scotland amply paid at 2,0001, a-
year ? In answer to that question he would say becauss
he could get the first men in the profession to take the
office for that sum. His only object in opposing the pre-
sent Bill was to reform the wretched system that ex-
isted in the Courts of Scotland, and to enable the
people of that country to obtain justice, and in his
determination to persevere in his opposition to the Bill,
he had been greatly strengthened by what had fallen
from the Honourable Member for Glasgow. The Ho-
nourable and Learned Gentleman talked of miserable
economy. They forgot that there was always two parties
to such bargains—those who paid and those who received.
Then he complained of the opposition being given at so
late a stage of the Bill. When he had been a little longer
in the House he would find that it was necessary to give
opposition to some Bills on every stage. His predecessor
could have told him that the Bill had befare received much
opposition, and that he had found much trouble in carry-
ing it through its former stages. When he had longer
experience he would' find that the opposition was given to
Bills in every stage, and that the present Bill had not re-
ceived half the opposition which many other Bills had re-
ceived. The opposition to the returns asked for was only
a proof to him that they could not be made in such a mea-
ner as was likely to be acceptable to the public. They
wanted to get rid of the printed forms of pleading before
they gave any augmentation to the salaries of the Judges.
Mr. A GLIONBY had not beard one word applicable to
the clause before the House for the last three-quarters of
an hour, however, he could not support any clause which
should fix the salary of the Judges of Scotland at 2,0001.,
for he thought that too low a salary to command the ser-
vices of men fit for the situation. He would suggest,
however, that the returns should be got by periodical mo-
tions--( Hear, hear)—and that it was not necessary to in-
clude the regulation in an Act of Parliament.
Mr. WARBURTON said, Hon. Gentlemen forget
that the House had been lately engaged in a discussion with
respect to their privileges. Suppose they were to order
these returns and they were refused—how were they to en-
force their privileges unless they were made part of an Act
of Parliament ? They could not then be refused, but after
what had passed, how were they sure they could enforce
their orders ?
Lord HO WIC K hoped they would not then bring under
discussion any question of privilege—they were not then
either doubted or disputed.--( Hear, hear.) But if they
were to embody such a clause in an Act of Parliament,
would it not be suggesting to those who might wish to dis-
pute their privileges the propriety of doing so ?
Mr. WALLACE, in reply, hoped to gain the vote of
the Hon. Member for Cockermouth. He might make
periodical motions for these returns, but he might be re-
sisted by the Lord Advocate, or some Lord Advocate, and
what chance had he of getting them. The Hor. Gen-
tleman pressed his amendment to a ;division, upon which
the numbers were—
For the Clause l4
Against it 59
Majority
The Honourable GENTLEMAN then resumed his argu-
ment. He entirely agreed with the Honourable Mem-
ber for Kilkenny. No one here impugned the dig-
nity of the Court. It was not held to be derogatory to the
dignity of the Court of Session that a register of the
number of days it sat should be required; but to have
the number of hours each day registered, is objected
to. He then proposed the following clause, which
was negatived without a division:—." And be it
enacted, That the President of the Court of Session for
the time being, shall, along with the annual return to
Parliament of the number of causes tried, &c. &c. state
whether any extension of the usual sittings of th(
Courts has taken place ; and if so, whether the ex-
tension has taken place in consequence of an injunc-
tion from the Judges, or a command issued by the Crown."
The Hon. Gentleman then moved the following be added
to the 14th clause :—" And be it enacted, That within
fourteen days from the commencement of every future
Session, a statement shall be presented to both Houses of
Parliament, to the effect that the regulations which
have been made by the Act or Acts of Sederunt for carry ing
into operation the purposes of this Act, and of former Acts,
for the better administration of justice in the Supreme and
Inferior Courts of Scotland, have all been considered with
reference to each other, and are now, under Acts of Sede-
runt lately made or revised, practically applied to simplify
and improve the forms of Court .and proceedings therein,
in such a manner as has appeared to the said Judges, or a
majority of their number, to be most likely to cheek litiga-
tion on points of form, and conducive to the despatch of
business, with the least expense and delay to suitors." He
said it was scarcely known to Hon. Members that a great
part of the litigation of Scotland arose upon points of form,
for the Court of Session had no machinery for making laws.
The addition was also negatived without a division.
Mr. WALLACE then proposed the following clause :
—" And be it enacted, that a similar statement be trans.
mitted, to the effect that the first, seventh, eighth, ninth,
rind tenth clauses of this Act have been specially consi-
dered and given full effect to by Act of Sederunt; and
that in their then present form these clauses are found in
practice to work well for the administration of justice, and
appear to require no legislative amendment." He would
merely bring it up, but would not persevere in it in the pre-
sent temper of the House.
Mr. A G LIONBY said these Acts of Sederunt ought
not to become law until they had laid on the table of the
house for six months, as it was in the case of rules and
regulations made by the Judges in England.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the cases were
not at all analogous. These Acts of Sederur,ts were made
by the power of Judges at common law, whereas the
rules and regulations made by the Judges in England were
made labeler legislative authority, and had the power of
altering the law of the land. The Acts of Sedcrunt
could not.
The clause was then negatived.
Mr. WALLACE said he had another clause, which
would have been necessary had the others been carried ;
as it was, he would merely bring it up, and it would also
be negatived. The lion. Member then proposed, " That
the aforesaid statements shall be signed by all the Judges
of the Court of Session, or by the majority agreeing in
op;nion when they are not unanimous."—Negatived.
On the 12th clause being put,
Mr. HUME said that that clause stated that great re.
ductions had been made in the Courts of Exchequer and
o her Courts of Scotland, whereby a saving had accrued
of 60,0001. Now he wished to propose the following
addition to that clause—" That it is expedient a still further
reduction should take place in the number of Ju•lges in
Scotland." He proposed this addition, because at present
the Judges of Scotland only sat five months in the year,
instead of sitting for ten months as the Judges did in
England and Ireland. He did not mention the number to
which, in his opinion, they ought to be reduced, because
every one had his favourite number, and he was only
anxious to have the principle affirmed.
The House then divided, when there appeared--
For the addition
Against it 46
Majority against Mr. Hume's proposition —24
On our admission to the gallery we found
Sir WILLIAM RAE addressing the House on the
clause proposing that the Judges of Scotland should ba
permitted to retire on the full salary. On every occasion
whe the salaries of the Judges of England had been in-
creased it had been considered an act of justice to the
Judges of the Court of Session that a corres-
ponding increase should be made in their salaries
also, but when in 1825 an increase took place
in the salaries of the Judges in England, and when in the
year following he bad proposed a corresponding increase
in the salaries of the Judges in Scotland, he had been met
with the allegation that a Committee had reported that
great changes should take place
ments in Scotland, and he hadbeen told to make t ose
in the judicial estabblish-
nchn
radnignegsi beforeyin tb
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hee
folploronpionsgedsoasnsyioinnebreeasebnodf sinatlaror
measure abolishing the Court of Exchequer, making all
the changes which had been proposed by the Committee,
and going still further by abolishing two of the Judges of
the Court of Session. He was surprised that after this
no increase had taken place in the salaries. A
change of Government had taken place shortly after,
and he was glad that the Government had at length
taken up the case, and to that provision he should not object.
But he did object to allowing the Judges of the Court
of Session to retire on their full salaries. According to
existing Acts of Parliament, they
were entitled on retire-
ment to three-fourths of their salaries, and this he consi-
dered ample. The grounds on which large salaries were
given to Judges were that they had a high station to main-
tain, and most important duties to perform; but the mo-
ment lie ceased to be a judge, he had no status to main-
tain, nor any duty to perform. Besides, the Judges of
England and Ireland did not retire upon the full sala-
ries, which ought to be the case, if the Judges of
Scotland were permitted so to do, as he could
see no reason for such a distinction being made.—

(Hear, hear.) If it were right, it should be made the sub-
ject of a general Act of Parliament, applying to the
Judges of England and Ireland, as well as of Scotland.
He would therefore suggest that this clause should be
withdrawn, and a Bill introduced in the course of the next
Session, making it applicable to England and Ireland, as
well as Scotland. He objected to the proposition, because
many a Judge, after 70 years of age, was able to perform
most important duties, and many of the most distinguished
Judges in the Court of Session had officiated after that
age with honour to themselves and the country. He pro-
tested against the introduction of such a clause, and moved
as an amendment, that the clause be omitted.
Mr. GILL ON seconded the amendment.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he should yield
to the argument of the Honourable Baronet, and ad-
vise that the clause be withdrawn. The argument
to which he alluded was, that if the principle
were good for anything, it should be applied to the
whole of the United Kingdom. At the same time he
must give his strong opinion in favour of the clause—
( Hear, hear)—because he believed it would be productive
of great benefit if such a law were applied generally.
Now what was the law? It related not merely to age
but to 15 years' service on the Bench. There had been
repeated instances in which judges of the most honourable
minds and disinterested feelings had, from a reluctance
to leave their station and lose their income, and from a
regard to their family, felt unwilling to retire when they
were required to do so by public expediency.—( Hear.)
Mr. GIL LON trusted his side of the House would profit
by the lesson of economy which had been delivered by the
Hon. Baronet the Member for Bute, and he (Mr. G.)
was glad to belong to any triumvirate in the House which
was ready to guard the public purse. He was satisfied the
omission of the clause would not tend to diminish the dig-
nity of the bench, which they had been told consisted not
in the talent of the Judges, but riding to the Court in a
coach.—( Hear, and a laugh.)
Mr. AGL lONBY said it had, on a former occasion,
when the efficiency of the Scotch Judges had been for
several hours animadverted upon, been generally admitted
that it would be much for the benefit of the suitors and the
public that the Judges should be placed in a situation so as
not to have a constant inducement to retain possession of
the bench when they were unfitted for the discharge of
their duties.—( Hear, hear.) If the principle was good,
why not adopt it now in respect to Scotland, and apply it
to England and Ireland afterwards ? He should object to
the clause being withdrawn.
Mr. HUME expressed his regret that the present Go-
vernmeut, notwithstanding all their professions of economy,
should have been committed to an extravagance not jus,
ified even by Tories.

Mr. E. ELLICE objected to giving the Judges
creased salaries before the system of the Courts was
amended.—( Hear, hear.) But to the principle of this
clause he could not oppose himself.
The gallery was cleared for a division, but the clause
we foun was withdrawn.
Mr. WALLACE then moved a proviso to the effect
" that within fourteen days of the passing of any Act of
Sederunt, if Parliament be then sitting, or if not, within
fourteen days after Parliament meets, a copy of the said
Act be transmitted to Parliament, and that the said Act
shall not be binding, till confirmed by Parliament." It was
absurd that there should be a pretended sanction of Par-
liament to Acts of Sederunt, which at present were never
heard of, or seen in Parliament, till long after they had
come into operation.
Mr. GILLON seconded the proviso.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL said the words pro-
posed to be added, would render the clause wholly nuga-
tory ; the Acts of Sederunt must be acted upon imme-
diately, otherwise they would be wholly useless. If it
were to be rendered necessary to have the sanction of
Parliament for them, they might as well obtain new Acts
of Parliament.
Mr. HUME supported the proviso.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw. The House di-
vided, when there appeared--
For the proviso
Against it 53
Majority 36
Mr. WALLACE said he did not know whether he
would get any gentleman to second him or not, but he
would move that the title of the Bill be " A Bill to regu-
late the duties to be performed by the Judges of the Curt
of Session in Scotland, so as to increase their ease and
comfort by adding largely to their salaries, without at the
same time adding anything to their judicial duties or dimi-
nishing the delay or expense occasioned to suitors by the
frequent breaking up the Court on long vacations."—
( Laughter.)
Mr. E. ELLIS seconded the motion.
Mr. FOX ;MULE wished to make one observation
befere the question was put. He must protest against
these attempts to bring the proceedings of that House
into ridicule.
Mr. HUME would equally protest against any unjust
proceedings being taken by that House ; and if a Bill in
its nature unjust, was brought forward, it was only by ex-
posing it in every point of view, that they could hope for any
alteration in it.—( Cheers. )
Mr. E. ELL ICE had seconded the motion because he
believed that this Bill would saddle the country with
15,0001., in return for which not one jot of public benefit
would accrue, and it, moreover, tended to perpetuate a
system which was already the subject of much complaint,
as being inconvenient and detrimental to the public inte•
rests.

Mr. Wallace's motion was then put and negatived with-
out a division, anti the Bill was passed.
Mr. R. STE WART moved the third reading of the
Copyhold Enfranchisement Bill.
Mr. HOPE suggested the propriety of postponing the
third reading, as there were several lion. Membets who
wished to take part in the discussion who had left the
House under the impression that the Bill would not he
brought on that night.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL urged his Learned
Friend to persist in his motion. Ample notice had been
given, and if any further delay took place the safety of the
Bill might be endangered.
The Bill was then read a third time.
On the question that the Bill do pass,
Mr. GREENE proposed an additional clause by way
of rider, which was agreed to, after which the Bill was
passed amidst loud cheers from the Ministerial side of the
House.

The Paper Duties' Bill then passed through Committee.
The Brick Duties' Bill passed through Committee after
some verbal amendments had been made.
COPYRIGHT BILL.
The Order of the Day having been read for going into
Committee on this Bill,

Mr. WARBURTON objected to its being proceeded
with at this late hour (it being past twelve o'clock), as
there were several important clauses remaining to be dis-
cussed, which would occupy at least four or five hours.
Mr. Sergeant TALFOURD said that the objection
formerly urged by the Hon. Member against proceeding on
Wednesday could not now be urged, for it was Thursday
morning._( Laughter.) If the opposition was to be pressed
with its former vigour, it would be useless to proceed at
this late hour, but he trusted that some arrangement would
be made by which he could be allowed to bring it on this
day ( Thursday).
The Stannaries Bill then passed through Committee.
METROPOLITAN POLICE COURTS BILL.
The House went into Committee on this Bill, and a
vote was taken to defray the expenses.
On the motion of Mr. FRESHFIELD, the Parochial
Cure of Souls Bill was read a second time.
Mr. SANFORD moved the second reading of the
Small Tenements Bill, but, after some conversation, it was
postponed till Wednesday.
The Bills of Exchange Bill was read a second time.
The House adjourned at a Quarter before One o'Clock

-PAIN.—A letter from Perpignan, dated the
25th June, which is published by the °Gazette des Tribu-
naux, has the following postscript :—" The troops of Don
Carlos have got possession of Puycerda, and are conse-
quently in contact with our frontier. Everybody here
wishes for an intervention, or at least for an armed de-
monstration on the Ebro. It is said that orders have been
received to prepare a field hospital, or ambulance, which
shoult: seem to indicate that the French Government fore-
sees the possibility of circumstances which would render
the intervention necessary." We must observe that the
Toulouse Journals of the 28th, and those of Bordeaux of
the 29th, do not speak of the taking cf Puycerda. We
only find in the France Meridionale a letter from Ceret of
25th June, to the following effect:-" While the ferocious
Count d'Espagne is causing a road to be made toward
Puycerda, in order to bring with him the cannon necessary
to besiege that town and efface it from the map, like
Mantere, Repoli, &c., his banditti stop the diligences and
plunder travellers on the roads. On the 22d, the diligence
between Perpignan and Puycerda was stopped near Pont
do Moretins by an armed band. The passengers, after
having been plundered, were taken to the mountains, and
will doubtless have to pay a large ransom to obtain their
liberty. Among them was a young man belonging to a
rich family at Figuieres."
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William Brown was opposed in the Insolvent
Debtors' Court on Wednesday by Mr. Cresswell, on the
part of Messrs. Marriott. merchants, and a Mr. Perkins.
He was supported by Mr. Cooke, with whom was Mr.
Woodroffe. The insolvent had been a wholesale grocer
in Watling-street. He compounded with his creditors in
1836 by paying them 12s. in the pound, at which time his
debts were about 13,000/. ; his business had been very
extensive, turning about 60,0001. a year; he had paid
Messrs. Travers no less than 90,0001. ; he dealt with the
same creditors. It appeared that the insolvent had struggled
for some time, and at length was compelled to go to pri-
son. His debts, &c. were 5,3001., and he had 4,267/.
owing to him. On the part of the creditors Mr. Cress.
well said he was so satisfied with the honesty and
fair dealing of the insolvent, that he should pray his
Mr. Cook remarked that Mr. Brown would
leave
Court without a stain on his character. The
Court
ordered the insolvent to be discharged.
discharge. atr hgee.