The Sun.
London, England, 1830-11-30 00:00:00

REGENCY BILL.

After nhort conversation between Earl (incr. and
Lord LY NMI tnisl, the Committee on the Regency MU was
postpored front to- morrow to Thureilay.
RADICAL .REFORAL

The Duke of RICHMOND presented it petition from
the parisii of Iliinghtsrst, in Sussex, .praying fur Rs-tin:Al
Reform.

STATE OF THE COUNTRY..
Lord WYNFORD rose ta ask the Noble Earl opposite
two epteetions. Ile had heard with great satisfaction the
statements of the Noble Earl with respect to the determina-
tion of his Majesty's Government to investiode the dia.
trestles and to put down the distorbencto of the counts y.
Was it the intention of hie Mijesty's Government to pro-
w* the institution of any Parliamentary inquiry into the
extent and chiseler of the existing distress; and was it
their intention Mere additional power tis the Magistrates.
for the purpose of enabling tbetn snore effectuelly to sup-
prows the disturbances ?
OBEY said that he wee sure it was not nem.
nary for hiM to asesure the Noble end Learned Lord.
and their Lordships generally, that the distress which
existed in the country had been the (torten* oultilict
of the consideration of hi. Majesty's Minister' ever
since their stioeseion to office. Ile did nor, how-
ever, .eoritempleie proposing such a Parlismentary
Ciunmittee of Inquiry. as She .Nsible and Learned Lund
hid alluded to, The Cernmittee whirls erns to he
moved for that night by a table Afarquie, would pro-
llably throw contideraide light on some of the eirminis
stances estineeted with. the existing (limeys. If, in the
course of the investigstions of that Committei., a ranee, so-
neat Parliamentary inquiry ihenld be considered odyissrilc,
lie should have no objection to its Wilt instituted.. With
toped to the second question put to him by the Noble tied
Learned Lord, It did not occur to him that it was neceseiry
to give any additional power to the Magistrates. Er'en in
the most disturbed parts of the country, the powers which
the Magistrates already possessed would, he was persuaded,
be found sufficient for the purpose. He was—be concerned
that he watessaexcerdingly anions to abstain from extending
the powers whit Width the Magistrates were clothed by
the existing law, except in a case of extreme and absolute
necessity. If such a necessity, however, should Heise, he
trotted that he should not be found igniting in the deter-
mination to tame to Parliament, nod ask forwhatever,ca-
tension of authority the urgency of the case Might require.
The LORD CHANCELLOR entirely concurred in,the
sentiments which had been expressed by his Noble Friend.
is his humble opir!ion, until the efficacy of the law in its
present state bit had it fair trial, it would litt highly incr.
pe tient to adopt any itew measures for the purpose, of
putting an end to evils, which be biped anti believed
would be passing and temporary. In the mean while
every effort would be made, by putting into vigorous
execution the existing laws, to suppress disturbances which
were highly disgraceful to the districts in which they ite-

caned, and whic-h were utterly Tuitions with rererrome to
the veryobjeets which those who engaged in them had i►i
view. There wits no truth more 1: ruilletA Linable than th it
in proportion as the publle piece was disturbed the wisely
of those who were unfortunately suffering &stress,
at the present moment. was greatly 'mirrored in sievertif.
Holding the responsible situation which he did, with refe-
rence to the magistracy of the country, he hoped that
Noble Lords, who were at the head of the mr.gistraey in
their teimetivi .ountier, Would take in gond part what he
was about to observe. it related to individuals who were
comprehended in the Csinattibmion of the Pence. For' lie
from him the disposition M interfere with the rower and
discretion of the Lords Lieutenant. The discretionary
powers, so extensive sod important, which are inverted in
them, they, generally speaking, exercised with a discretion
and a judgment highly honottrable. Bat whit he wished

just .t; hint was that there were, in various parts of the
country, amity persons, whose activity, whose seal, whose
talent, whose knowledge, would render them very valu-
able accessions to the toseistracy, bet who were net, et
present, in the Commission of the Pace. fle did not
allude to the disturbed districts only, but to the country
generally.: When found that there were; hi many conn-
ect, toxemia possessed of Terri prelperty,' and he other re-
epode eminently qualified fur the' Magistracy,: but who
• nerertheleart were not in the etenmissiots, be comic/ Attri-
bute the omission only to 'inadvertence; and was *ore
that this suggestion would he enough to insure the admis-
sion of individuals so capable and se deserving of conidence.
It would be an incomparably more agreeable connect& him
if the Noble Lords in question would thus supply the
omission theuutelvee. If, however, flint were not done, lie
should consider that he grossly neglected the duties of the
office which he had the honour to hold, if he did not apply
himself personally to the *Weed:
The Earl of ELI)ON observed thst the Noble end
') Learned Lord was fully invested with the right of deter-
mining who should, or who should not, be comprehended
in the commission of the peace. Fur himself, however, he
had the great satisfaction so say, that during the five.and•
twenty years for which he had had the honour to bold the
office of Lord Clieneellor of. Englaud, he was exceedingly
indebted to the various Noble Lords who were the Lords
Lieutenents of counties (and be now, begged to return
them his thank') 14 their various recommendations to the
Magistracy. It must be acknowledged that it was next
to impossible that any Lord Chancellor could hirtnie:f
know the merits of the individuals comprehended in the.
Commission. In his whole experience there wits but one
exception in which he bad not attended i 4 the recant-
mendation of the Noble Lords in question; and that Was
when an individual had been struck out of the Commis-
'ion (we think the Noble and Learned Lord said in the
county of Durham) without the circumstance having been
previously itibmitod to him (Lord Eldon). Now, although
he had invariably attended to the recommendations of the
Lords Lieutenant with reference to the individuals who
should he appointed filsgistretee, yet, whenever au indivi-
du ti was once so appointed, It had been his determination
that no Lord Lieutenant, or Custos Rutulorum, should strike
that individual out of the Cemmiseion, without 4 previous
reference tothe Lord Chancellor. The Lord Chancellor of
England had initst, undoubtedly the power of choosing
whom he liked to iricludoie the commission of the. pest.;
but it was excemliogly.ininortent that in nuking his choice
he should not lose the Nowa, of having persons room-
mended to him by therm whose local knowledge .(rive them
the power to judge of character and competenee. • With
respect to the disorders which so unfortunately existed in
so man) parts of the country,: he woe quite persuaded that
t! ere bad not been the elighteet indisposition on the pat
of the late Ministers to Nile all proper measures for putting
an end to those disorder.. It was u eery racy thing to
blame persons for not doing: those seta which the very
individuals who Merged would themselves not venture
upon doing. Nothing could be more iinportrost. than I.
use great caution on •sabjects ottentied, with so mash peril.
It was with infinite eatiefeetion saw that special cowl-
minions were about to preoeed iota the diaturbeal enmities,.
Why did be say this ? It was the principle. of she English
law that justice should be imlininistered in Leroy. Nettling
therefore enuld be more iteireble than .that the deluded
peoyle should have these cenunissions sent down, to ex-
Winn to them what the law was, and what was the nature
of the offences which they were. committing. Way of
them, there could he aq rloulo, were. not at all *ware of
the der ea of criminality which they were inventor. In
order, therefore,. that the.law rthoulti he edmieisteteel
mercy, it was 'necessary that the law ,should be deeeribed
and expounded. Weiteid this, (undoes he had been so,.
unwed to find thot bundreele atria thouserole of persons Who
to various parts of the couetly, while they reed the len,
guage of begging, lay their ottnittets extorted money, up.
peered to he
.ignerott of .tbo, 11411140 or their offetwe, mot
to suppose,that they were retitled thus to obtain relief for
their. necessitie!, Ile hoped, suet indeed had no doubt
selistever, that the Judges of the land who were *Jena to
foe sole to those comities where the prieciptil ilisturlienees
tied occurred, wOuld Sake the trouble to explain to the do.
itiejellau personao
thilYtt ihwa.nPlitrhtn°Btibliol;il disturbances
1 t, and the nature of
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