The Sun.
London, England, 1801-05-16 00:00:00

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The Order of the Day being read ►or the first
reading of the Buil*. preventing the Forgery of
Country Bank Notes,
Mr. TY RWH IT wished to know, whether this
was ?was proposed in consequence of any consi.
detable Forgeries on. Country Bankers ?
Sir W. arort ID replied in the affirmative.
Mr. JONES gave notice, that he should pro..
pose a Clause for laying an additional Tax upon
Country Bank Notes.

Mr. MARTIN supported the B:11, because it,
tendency was to prevent the crime of Forgery.
The Bill was then read a iirst time.

ARMY IN EGYPT.

The CH4NCELLOR of the EXCHEOUER
rose to give notice, that on Monday next he should
move the Thanks of the. House. to General flu r.

. .
cHINSON, and the other Officers and Men composing
the gallant Army in Egypt. He had no hesitation
to say, that 'there never was any service in.which
the skill, the gallantry, and _the discipline of the
Btitish, or any other Army, had been more etni-
nently displayed. In Mentioning the services of
General Hu'rem NSON, he was necessarily led to the
melancholy consideration, of the loss the Country
had sustained by the death of General An E RCROV-
BY, and he was certain he should not do justice to
the feelings of General HurctuNsori, or to his
own, if he did not deeply lament the great loss the
Country had sustained by the death of that most
able and gallant Officer. This necessarily led him
to another consideration, in which he was sure he
was anticipated by the- feelings of the House,. be-
cause every man who admired these eminent quali-
fications which were necessary to constitute a great
Military Charmer, must be anxious to do honour
to himself and his Country, by paying the last tri-
bute of respeft- to the Memory of Gcueral ABER..
CROMEY.

Mr. ROIISON moved, that there be laid before
'the House an account of the sums of money advan.
ced by this Country by way of Subsidy to Foreign
Powers, together with the interest, due
,thereon. •
Mr. PANSITTART opmsed the Motion, as no
notice whatever had been given by. the Hon. Gen-
tleman of his intention to call for these Papers.
Mr. JOXES contended, that the Hon. Gentle-
man had a right to call for those Papers without
giving any previous notice, and said that many
Motions Were made for Papers on the other side of
the House without previous notice.
The SPEAKER said, the usual praaice of the
House had been to give notice if there was a pro-
bability of the produuion of the Papers being op-
posed—lf their production was a mere matter of
course, then it was not usual to give notice.
Lord lIAIVKESRURY said, it was usual, as, a
matter of, courtesy, for a Gentßquan who wished
for the produaion of a Paper, to communicate with
the person at the head of the Department from
which he wanted it. - If the person so applied to
had no objeaion to produce the Paper, then the
IVlotion Was made as. a matter of course ; if he had,
then it was always usual to give notice.
Mr. GREY said, the practice of giving notices
of Motions, was Om, and in his opinion had not
been produaive of any good consequence, for if
notices were ?lot giver., Gentlemen would attend
more regularly. He conceived that every Gentle_
man had a right to move for Papers, without any
communication whatever to the Person -at thell . head
of any Department. It had not been stated that
.there was any real objeaion to the produaion of
this Paper, and the opposition which was made, ap.
peared to him highly unparliamentary.

The SPEAKER 'said, that since he had been in
'Parliament, it had always been usual when a Gen-
tleman wanted a Paper, to give notice to persons in
Office of his intention to move for it, in order that
They might consider whether it was fit to oppose its
yroduftion or not.
Lord HAWKESBURY, in'explanation,said, that
he had never stated ii to be necessary for any Gen-
tleman wanting a Paper, to consult with persons in
Office ; he'had merely said, that such communica-
tions were usual, and consistent with that courtesy
which generally 'prevailed between Members of
Parliament.

The CILANCEL4,OR of the EXCHEQUER said,
be should be sorry to object to this Motion, inform-
ed, or rather uninformed as he was 'upon the subject;
if, however, the l ion. Gentleman persisted in it, be
should be under the necessity of opposing it. There
certainly could be no donbtbuethat a Member had
a right to submit any Motion- he pleased to the
hinose,' but unless stri4l tight was sometimes a
little mitigated, it would , often be produaive of
great inconvenience. It, surely was better that a
mutual good 'understanding should subsist upon
these sublets among Gentlemen, and it had always
subsisted,, even in times of the most violent Puha.
rnenrary differences. He ditt not say he had -t right
to exped 'that any- notice of this kind. should 'be
given to him, but he shoulti consider it as polite to
do so, and it certainly
,was what he should do
himself.

~Mr: GORY explainCd, • and said, that, in Jreland,
it was not necessary even to second a Motion for
the produaioa of Papers.. _ _ •

Mr, YORKE saia, that the Hon. Gentleman who
wished that notice shofild uot he given, as it would
compel the attendance of Members in their places,
was notperhaps, of all others, the Gentletnan who
had th Lest right to read the !louse a Ledure upon
the subjcEl of attendance. This was a Question
not of trift right, but of courtesy and general
convenience; and themfore, he thought the practice
of giving notice ou‘ght to be adhered to. .

The CHANCELLO R of the EXCHEQUER said.,
that 'baiting examined the Motion, be could not
pring hirnielf to give it his negativertherefore he
should move the previous question.
'Mr. VANSiv,, cur explained. `,
Mr. joNts and Mr, 'NI cilot.s supported the
Motion.,

- Mr. CORRY'said, that the infcrmaticn the.Gen-
tleoun wanted Was to' he fuJnti in the J.Gurual3 of
the House.- •

• Mr.
.791INSTON said, that the, amount of the
Subsidies might be found in the journals, but not
ale ;mount of the interest due, .

Mr. MARTIN and Mr. Robsoil r.turported the
original Mdtion.