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each objection to the course now IWW,WSWI to be pursued towarc'a
the existing parliammit. be 04ir R. Peel, asked his (tight lion.
Vriond why he, As a liaise Councillor, atrittieseeti In the eon.
(iodination of the Parliament of beet Y Ilie Crown dirt not tell
the House of ('ominous into conaultatlon on this matter I It Ito
'imitated, in courtesy to the 'louse, that it would exercieu Ili mi.
titi,.utltrillitimu ste"t7i7v jotsfund!isteltvointlialiCleritilailf:felenti. flUtiVittlnnel"slrhiet •
41 nide eile.tion then Witt, not. whether the !louse would teke
..,, fwenty.four hourt more to eintsidtv, It was whether It Would
sdied the proposal measure to thable the Crown to act oh its
fr eii suggestion, or whether It would Willie to do SO, and protract
the Hessitni In order to settle, the I 40210'. Vvery man wee 114
. ' competent to decide this point nose to he wou dhe after tipsily.
four hours' further consitlerAtinn. Nefertiti the Houle give a vote
of teedit, or vrould it insist upon the discussion or a permanent
iteretney I Ile (Sir It. Peel) was still of i"e woe opinion, that it
.; wits not &proper period for enterlog lion such a eldie.4iC IitICC.
3-' I inn. Ile (der IL Peel) hart an Objection to put the questkm en
1 the istue proposed by Ur /%4liiii lArd, whetlotr the (lease was
1 , lirefor'el to place centh
its In Ministers or not ? Ilut let ITS
diateust be ever to great %enact not be tie' hoed by an amend-
(' Willa, which merely proposed a PO4tiAIIiCIACAL of the matter fur
. twenty.flotr hours.
Mr. lIIISKISH(►N explelrtett, lie was always ready Itlhow to
any lesson from his ,light Hon. Fliend• (Sir it, reel) on the sett.
jest of consistent y eei,A blush, and cries of " Spoke.")
.„ Lard PALMY-R.B'lON roe Cinitlst crier of " Oh, oh." lie
i 4 oestrus'( that he could slot Mei the slightest surprise at the ho.
~.., petle•nee of gentlemen 111 one corner of the House, who were
e.,.., prepared to soteetlibugh not to argue, sail to put an extinguisher
cil en such an humble individual as himself. Whatever might he the
* oinnbill oStliC flight lion. Gentleman, many members, and lie
le oliongd t le number, were in a state of doubt when they entered
"kik the Itonse Of the intentions or tioveromiiiit ; and Woking to his
„, setosh, he was not disposed to leave to tlovernment this most
te, hove:Sant constitutional question. Whim he considered the
stele of public busbies* lit the /louse, It was nut wenderitil that
en opinion was entertained that it was better to send the Mehl.
l'all to their constituents. Ito had heard It said that a dllllOlll-
- lion might be expected on this ye?, groundrethat the House
lint
07-- WAS Able to got through its ints nets. eN by another House
. 4lititilit he bolter able to get through it lie could not Imagine.
46, Ile Was alltietilled that the Governmeet was prepared to take
.2, upon Itself the awful responsibility of dissolving Parliament
P wohnot any meow, being „
adopted to provide for the possible
; contingency of a demise of the Crown, If the argument, that a
ehthi.sovereign could give A Consent to A Regency Bill, was goal
lilt any thing, It was equally good lit tilt cats of a new raffle.
e malt. tie gave hill cordial seipport to the motion of his Noble
sk Friend.
~,''g Camel LINDSAY said, be hall a perfect confidence in his
'1 rileiestyl Otieernment. Ile trail (as we understood) an extract
0' reins a weeds of the lion, and Unreal Steinber for Knaves.
V tioronati Mn.( Droughant)eon the debate on the Scotch Jurisdie.
. thus Rill, in preise of his Melody's Ministers, and expressed his
tele' smlrprise that the Ihni. and be:Wiled Member should have
ehenioni his sentiments of them
s, Mr. Lt 01)111.I, thought that it was the duty of Parliament not
7 to seperate without the appointment of a Regency. 'l' his was net
. m fiaestion of a fete hundreds or thousands, or An objection to a
61 tic ale of official expenditure; but It Involved the safety and sects.
; rity of the realm. He should forfeit his duty to the people if he
gave his support on this qUestion, to his Majesty's thaernment.
e.. Colonel HI lITH Olt ru elpresstd his:heart y concurrence In the
o . motion of the Noble turd.
e The House then divided—
; For the Amendment
Ae.leuit it l,ll/
185
Majority fur the original motion...
$1 tin returning to the gallery,
4 Lord A 1:1' ii olt P was proposing another Amendment, to the
following effect t—" That an humble Address be presented to his
f' Majesty, representing to his Mejesty that his faithful Cromnour
".,t • acknowledge t Ite petition Conlnt‘tttlention from his Majesty, which
,„, " his faithful Commons motel tat as a proof otitis Majesty's anxiety,
wherein his Majesty declared, that considering the advanced pr-
o ' tied of the Messiest, it Would be inexpedient to Introduce any new
. measures 1 and that his Majesty's feithlnl Commons felt it to be
their duty to state, that if his Majesty &tumid take into consltiera.
it Ron the propriety of provitfine terainst the danger to which the
• realm Might be exposed ttorn the demise of the Crown, ills Ma.
„,,i* jetty's faithful lirrantoits would be ready to Adopt such measures
• as his Misie,ey . mild recommend for that purpose."
Sir IL rlttel. said. that to urge any objections to this amend.
' •
inept would he to go over the tame pound. Ileshould therefore,
c for this rearm, net out of any disrespect to the Noble Lord, Sc.
heist Sr any ohaervations.
Mr. lIROULIII A.M sahl, that since his Majesty's Oorernment
e lout. resolved to proreal, not only without the summit of that
i;notate but Against its opinion, and In despite and contempt of
Its sentirnenteeeewlien the whole weight of Government heti been
Ii put forth, and had only seamed the 'emelt of ifth against MO;
ifir to coital which Red Ito would take upon himself to say that tin
expedient had been used...-(loud cheers on both sides of the
ft (bume amidst which was a peculiar cry.)
An ,nom. Meteratt, whose name we could not learn, rose to
• ask if such An exclamation as the House had just heard was in
e ortier.—(Loud laughing.)
'• . 1110 fil'EA K lilt (Ili we understood) espreised a doubtful
4 opiniou.
7 The Ike, Mueller; Still pressed for an answer, Ile considered
' , the noise Om bean indecent one.
1 'rhe HPEAK lill sold tie could only state that, Rio impression
.. on hie tautl was. that there was nothing disorderly in what the
i 800. Member referred to.
•'
.. ea. filtOtiO II A M said, that the lien, Member had tint pro-
,f• beolv Ken so Inured as he was to (ho various noises which were
;ward in that 'louse. Varione and numerous were they, and Al
Works of creation they excited in his mind diffirrent ',macs of
'" contemplation, lie had heard, in his experiente, so many ani.
trial cries, that hu was more inured than the lion. Member to
these sounds of the menagerie, The lion, and Learned Member
a then resumed his argument. To gain this unprecedented small
' number of votes, on this wood night of a new succession to the
, . Thr"l'et he knew not what effirrts might have been made; but
to trermt the VD votes he know there hail been no coalition
of any kind—Meer, hear,)—no understanding whetever—none
among,, his lion. Friends near him--none on this side or oil
that side of the lions. (pointing to the two neutral benches) ;not
• sinned' as a single 'toffee bad been given. They had Well
thrcNt to daces; one of the most important questions that
cotift come herons the !louse, and on an unusual night too. lie
did not expect That at any future period Ito should hear any tine
Miming his VI otito Friend, If he brought forward it most Wiper.
tent queetion vitally connected with the honour of the country,
,' tree, he I:11040a Wedirestlity ; or that the lion. Member for Aber-
, dorm, and a most useful efernber he was, should be reproached
with bringing forward onitinns to repress the wasteful expert.
• diture of the thaermnent on a Wednesday. Amongst all the
; argumeots used on the other Ole, lie acknowledged that there
, , wet one which he had not beard lit that 1 himw, he meant time
+e thre,:t of resigning. .. If you leave (Jovernownt in a minority I
~ wilt resign, anti where will you get a fiehlonarslial to superintend
• your finances and yotir law eimitria7"—((leAr. and a laugh.)—lf
lie ;Ntr. Ifirtetehenti had haul the bed fortune to hear that threat
uttered in this place, be should have settee' time grown,* on
which he ileteneil it his duty net to !Men to the threat, but to
leek with equal mind on what some alight consider the lest mu
timed velar/lit v• lie conceived it barfly possible for the United
Kingdom to bear the going Old of office of a considerable
per fitio of his ,Majesty's ',kiloliters. Let them not lay the flatter.
tug unction to their soul, and indulge fond hopes from the era.
sore they contemplated ; that hope might meet with such a tits.
• app.intrueitt that they may look back even to this Parliament
well some of the pleasures of memory, Their Cale might lie the
Cower that of l'fitive Polignac. Ile must needs send the repro.
mietitalives of Franco to their constituents I and mark, they were
eho,•sing a new assembly, and that great nation was UN net In
, inn'. that 'Meld be cent reeled, but up in the panoply, of reason,
and to be the comfort of all free:nee, and especially of ourselves ;
they were resolved to set at nought Um paltry intrigues of Prince
this. and Duke that; and care no more fur them than for a knot
, ~r Jr tolti or a set of regicides. 'they were now up •' arid we
should see in that country, at VI 01.114 Ire wen hi this, ,list the day
of force had guile try, and that he who would rule this country by
Boys' favour (why military power, Might be burled down franc
• him lieleht.--(Cheers from the Miiiisterial re.echned from the
"Ii lite side.)—" (liar I meet's() hot," excleitned the thin. and
I.;:urnell tientlemen I " 1 ACCUIe you (addressing the Ministerial
benches), his flatterers, his mean,
oc
fawning parasites."—(Cheers.)
t;•1, It. PEEL, with great vehennee—.l ask the II n. and
I,,,irned Metntair If he means to accuse me with being such ?
'flea floc. and Learned (finale:net) addressed himself to this side
iit the 'louse, and said," I meats to accuse you, his fie' terers, his
eiwiiiiig parasites." lam sitting on this side of the Ilmise; I
not the lerssoltatlse of the opinions of those who sit here ; but
I 0 t the question to tits floe. and Letterset! fivittlemate—not on
their behalf, but OS an individual,..-anti I ask, 6. dor% he presume
1., say a i loe "—(l.ourl shout* drowned the night Hum Gentle.
ma, i's volee)--" does lie presume to any of tnc, that i run the
' mean, fawning parasite of Any man Y"--(Loud crisis of .. Hear,
licit," *. Chair," " Mr. Brougham.") Mr.
Mr. llltOUtal A NI-11nw Is it possible her you, fiir, to an.
seer a ilUedioll init to the V But 1 observa it is easy to put a
env dim, whet, there is n determination net to hear the answer.
i tie swer the (mustier' by asking the Itlet lion. tientlentan if,
111 I till whale ~liras. of the two or Otte* listens in which be list
bad the opportunity et seeing me opposed to hire, he hat omit
;my thing which roads it likely thee I should treat bins Mire.
',pettedly, as lit', it would anniti, Cliotilnit to think I have done V
It my ceittliet towArds hon, (moth as to words and thxds,
has neves had the least tendency to treat him with personal
incivility, he roust acquit toe en this question. It is absurd,
it is tide:Mous to suppose, I meant to entitle to Mtn ; no? I allude
err the votes which hive pittwil, to rho resolutions w Orb have
imeiei come to, to time cries whiali have !Alen heard, and I have As
much right to answer those cries, as they to utter them. If I
.on interrupted by a cheer from the Ministerial side, I have a right
to impute that interruption to what 1 please..(' No, no I—not to
ourt Ives, but to terldelitieli. 1 spOltifi of parasitsi as the pilarnNtill
genus illeskorung. This shall ever be may aturse of eendtict ;
Arid this is the course of conduct which It behoves the House to
adopt,
Stu 11. PEEL did net suspect the (lon, and Learned (retitle.
iii,ta of any deliberate iiitention of offending him by a persotial
oiniiient, or even to offend any nrse ; but it would have been
imtitiitely betti,r if the lime and Learned tientleman had with.
drawn tee allosonis altogether than to attempt an exposition
which was led very satisfactory. Ile bail a perfect fight to
attack Ministers, hut Ito haul no right to Striae them of being
11:Attics's, VlllO were as nolepeotlent as he was.—(lloer, brae)*
It wits a had example to sot. Ire (Sir It. Peel) would make the
retreetAtirm of the Ike. amt Learned Gentlenian, Ile was con.
vitiend that the impressions were not toweled to *pelf to lam i
eis
and that they were uttered In the warmth of debate, inereee
by interruption. ..Tear, hear.)
Mr. IsliOtßill M :assented to to the renrwrtstess of this state.
meet. Ile allowed that he relight be a little warmer than meal.
After a few observations (ruin Mr. DI.IMMIS. Mr. Hellenism.,
and Mr, 'Plater, the Woe* added—
For the amendment"... ..... •"....... ..... led
Against it

bleforify sgpintt the
On our re.cdinitrion into the gallery,
Mr. 11U MI: Mali objecting to receiving the report of the Coin.
Mato. of Supply Ist that late hour.
The Order of the Hay wee read for bringing up the report,
which wze urdertal to be re.torntnittrri.
WAYS ANJI Dirrip.s.

•
The atilif
midst much noise, the alteration in the auger 410008. The
East 11041 augers had been reduced to somewbat more than one,
ninth to covet the fractional parts i the West India had been
reduced to mm.ollllll exactly. Ile coneloulud by moving the ra
caw iont—that the duty on Wort India and Meuritius sugars he
I!. ts, per cwt. ; on gest India sugar, 11. lb. 1 and other
sugarrs, 3/, 3*.
Mr. MOtIULAS raid that the reduction, such as it was, would
*Mod relief.
isit.WillTUOßPiollected to the principle of a discriminating
dotror, Hest India luster.
Mr. IttIfiKISISON was satisfied that relief could be given to
the sugar it'd!, and that it would ilitte.4lo the consumption of
the country, rho Rigid Irmo. (tentleman further (*mended,
that it would he a niaterist) Injustice to the West Indian pro.
prietors to prohibit the consumption of their greet staple article
! two ports out of three of the United Kingdom. Thi, dull 0*
rum In Ireland and Scotland was, in fact, such es totally to pro.
• vent the unptton of that Opirit In either country.
The Marquis of C ANDO,' thought that the proposed relief
was les* than the Wear Indian interred had a right to expect, and
accordingly moved as an amendment, a reduction of is, in tto;
cwt. on all brown or Mumoverlomeare Itemise, tido this country
hoot the British porsoesione In America or the Mauritius.
Mr. MAItIt Y A rr seconded the motion, on the ground that
tbe Wert Indian proprietors had at
Sts, present joist reason to WM.
plain of the manner in which their Veresta bad been ueatcd by
his llialosty's tlncerutnefit.
Mr. ItItIO HT maintained that the relief which the flight
Ilon. Oentleman proptAwsi was far from adequate, and that the
mantas had a right to demand relief of a much more VA teiairt
induce.
Me. C. GRANT could not think that Oneerroment was now
siring substantial relief to the Weal Indian proprietors, although
he Wait not now inclined to outrnw it. Thie wag in reality a just
national question, mei he hash bn always desirous to prevent ite
+Mout isenoweil down to an exclusive one, fie hailed the pre.
soot coneeralen of Ministers as A thee stop to a full and final or«
ratigement of the qiustion hereefter, sines, it must be ruabidesed
admission of the principle, and so tar a demolition of the bar.
rue Whigh pad been hitherto opposed to all the *elute of these