The Sun.
London, England, 1808-04-08 00:00:00

CONSOLIDATED FUND.

Mr.. HMI 3 oN, in consequence of some oliserva.
tions winch had fallen from a Right Hon. Gentle-
man opposite (Mr. Tierney), yesterday, moved that
there be laid before the House an:Account of the
Income of the Cotbolidated Fund from the sth of
December, 1897, to the sth of April, JEI08; distin-
,
guished under the usual heads. •
_ _

The Account was itinuediately presented by Mr.
FiumtsSooi and ordered to lie upon the'fable, and
to be printed.
The Irish Milks 'Bill was reported, and ordered
to be read a third time to-raurrow.

• 'The Irish Cast() 1301,
.and the Irish Promissory
Notes wore ea Ch read a second time, aid ot:-•
dered to be co minted„ tile, former to-morrow, the
littickr 011 Mooda

il:tt.

ASST.SSED TAXES BILL,

The CHANCLLI,OI( of the EXCIIMV th moved ,he
Order of the Day tor the second readinA of the As-
sessed Taxes Bill.

Mr. BIDDULPH begged to call the attention of
the. House to this Bill, which was about to pass
without that degree of- notice which its importance
.11,1 l went to repeal. all the_exigitio
AssessFdl:axes, and to grant others in lien thereof,
and as the-cLiestitutional mode of proceeding had not
been taken with resp-e&to it, -and no Parliamentary,
ground had been laid for the imposition of new taxes,
however unusual it was to take such a course, 'he
should oppose the further progress of the Bill,-unless
some satistaaory ground 'should be shewn in. sup- ,
port of,the measure. The forms of the House were,
.t constitutional barriers against innovations, such as
this Measure; and he Should therefore oppose the
measure, unless a constitutional ground should be
laid for its adoption. •
• Mr. HUSK ISSON, not understanding 'what the
Hon. Gentleman meant by constitutional -ground,
begged' to state to the House the grounds upon
Which his Right Hen. Friend had brought for-
ward this measure. The House would be aware that
it was due to the public- creditor, when an addition
was made to the public debt, to make a provision
for the interest and charges accruing from such addi-
tion; It would be recolleaed that a sum of four
Millions of Exchequer Bills had been funded in the
course of the present Session, the charge tar interest
ttnd sinking fund upon which amounted to 250,0001.
The sum to be raised by the Bill before the House
was something more than tOO,OOOl. as part of the
Ways and Means for defraying the charge alluded
to ; as the Assessed Taxes were to be collected from
the stii of April, it was desirable, however small
the addition may be, to bring forward the prop°-
, sition in time, so that people might be aware. of the
extent of it. As he was on his legs he took occa-
' tion to state, that . there was a clause in the Bill lbr
reducing the allowance of poundage' to 'the Cullee-;
tors 'one fouith,,, by which there would- be a saving.:
to the public of t!i,000l.
Mr. BIDDULPH was not satisfied with dept..
planation of the Honourable Gentleman,_ who had
notcOpnnunicatect any thing but what the House
knew before. Parliament was a great Council of
Finance to the Government, and ought to be con-
atitotialay consulted upon all subjeats of new
taxes. 'lt was from a conviction, that so far as the
262;0001: Ore annual charge upon the funded Ex;
chequer Bills, no new taxes were necessary, as 'he
could shew, and on that account he should oppose
the further progress of the Bill.
The CHAACE,LLOR of the EXC'HEQUEif
Was hot sensible of any unconstitutional circum-
stance conne&ed with this measure. If the HOn.
Gentleman believed that he could point out a mode
Of proViding for the payment of the interest of the
addition to the public debt, without new taxes, that
was a sufficient reason for his taking the course he
adopted, or preferring his own suggestion. Bui the
House must expect that the Hon Gentleman should
state his proposition before it would interfere with
the progress of the measure. It was desirable, if
the Bill was to. pass in the present Session, that it.
should be passed with all convenient expedition.—
When the Bill should go into the CoMmittee, the
Hon. Gentleman would' haie an opportunity of
-making any suggestion that occurred to him upon it.
But the HOWL: would not interrupt the progress of.
"the Bill upon the bare assertion of any Hon. Mem-
ber, that there was a something preferable to the
Bill, which, upon another occasion, he would state
to theHonse.
Mr. TIERNEY contended 'that the. Measure-
..
ought to have ofiginated in the usual way, in a Com-
inittee,Of Ways and Means; where the resources of
the year were brought forward in the explanation of
what was commonly called the budget. The !Ugh;
Hon. Gentleman, be would not say endeavoured to
smuggle this measure through the House, but was
certainly bringing forward the Ways and Means of
the year by piece-{neat. It been said, the addi,-
tion proposed was small, but the House shoUld, re-
collea that to per cent. had been recently -added to
the Assessed Takes, 'aid the o per cent, now propos-
ed to be added, with the former addition, amounted
to 12 per cent. The Bight Hon. Gentleman had
not assigned any one reason for this addition Of le per
cent- He would not say this-may not be the best
way of raising the sum proposed, but there was no
ground 'tor departing front the ordinary course of pro-
ceeding in bringing forward the bodget. He thought,
therefore, the Right Hon. Gentleman' ought to sus-
pend the progress of this Bill, till his Hon: Friend.
should have an opportunity of shewing how the oc-
casion might be met without resorting to fresh taxes,'
and the experience last year shewed that, this was
not improbable.
The • CHA INTEL LOR of the EXCHEQUER
disclaimed any intention to take the House by sur-
prise on this , measure., On the contrary,. be had.
-giVen notice of his propositiop of a Bill for consoli-
dating the'Assessed Taxes in the- regular manner.
He had at the same time intimated' his intention to
propose the addition of two per cent. and to transfer
the Game Licence Dutieli to the Assessed Taxes. It
would be competent to the Hon. Gentlemen oppo-
site to propose any measure they thought expedient.
He should. not have any objeklion to allow any rea-
sonable time before the Bill .should go into a COM,.
mittee. _

Dr. LA 11113E1V CE observed, that it was'upon the
principle that the measure was objeted to, -and the
principle ought not to be abandoned. • He agreed
with his Hon. Friend, that the 'Parlianent was a
great Council of 'Finance, to assist the Ministers in
the inn :zetnent of the resources of the 'Country.
It was post expedient, that the course usually prac-
tised should not be. departed from, and-therefore be
hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would suspend the
Bill in its present stage, until the produdion of the
.general Ways and Means of the year.
Mi _ROSE observed, that the Comolidated Fund
Ad, by which a much larger additiou of taxes was
made than was proposed by the present bill, passed
belthe the geural Ways and Means of the year were
brought' forward.
Dr. LAVIRENCB explained.
•Mr. if' 111TBREAD,aoked, why, .a"ffer the tri-
Urephant mak of the z;rowing produce cf
the Consolidated Fund, :it shiiold be zieees,,:ry to
press this measure forward ? raileolLP,.•r,-,! (bat
the pqssing of the Coosolithited Fund At:. *ez;,.:•e
laYs ai d Meat cat the )e" had tm"eil lw"

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Wartle Wa6 sUbjcel ut cui.oplaiut AL the licrx.

preient nkbasure Wag esitoily with that a grievance.
Upon these grounds be trusted the Right Hon.
Gentleman would put off the measure for the pre.
sent
The 818 'was then read a ,second time r..ithout
any. division upon the question, and ordered to be
cornmitted.on Monday. •
Mr, . Elm the LISCS -respeEting..the
Game Licences would be introduced into the Bill,
after which it would lie over till 'after the holidays.
' 'ORDERS IN COUNCIL.

Mr. TIERNST gave notice, that lie should move
on Monday, that seieral persons, whose names be
read, should be Ordered to attend the Committee
_upon the Petitions against the Orders in Council,
in order to-be examined.
INTERNAL DEFENCE.

Lord Carrell/MA(lli gave notice, that on Tad!
day next he should subMit..te proposition to ale
Rause, respekling the Internal Defence of theCOUtr-
try. The course he meant to pursue was, first, td
state to the House a general outline of the. measure .
which his Majesty's Ministers thought expedient to
recommend to Parliament for its adoption, . with. a
view to the internal security and defence of the
Country; after which the Bill would be brought in
and printed, and then suffered to lie over for some
time, in order to give Gentlemen a full opportunity
of considering its provisions.
REVERSION GRANT BILL.
Mr. BxNKS.s moved, the Order of the Day for
going into a Committee on the Reversion Oral* •
Prevention Bill.
On the question for the SPEAKER'S leaving the
Chair,
Lord OSSULSTONB delivered his sentiments upon
the measure at some length ; but in so low a tone 05
to be inaudible in the. Galiery. -
The House then resolved itself into the Commit.
tee, Mr. HENRY, THORNTON, in the Chair.
Mr. BANKRS, in meting to fill tip the.first blank,
felt it necessary to remind the Ctete. oit tee of the situ-
ation in which they stood %N.-Ith respett to this
The former measure having been rejeaed In the
House of Lords, they were precluded, by the forms
. of Parliament, from 'sending up the same measure
in the
esatmoehsiem a matter of dutyssion.Underthese circumstances it
discretionto;
propose to' bring in a Bill for a tilde' fobelielted
by which that House would attain one of the_oite
jets which i( had in view, namely, to prevents the
grant of Places in Reversion for the present. M the
whole measure could not be .n:compiished, it becatue
necessary to restrain its operation to a limited period,
andin doing this it was his desire.to adopt that course
which would be most conciliating and least offeasire
to the other branch of. the Legislature. Under this
impressions he should abstain- as much as possible
from making any observations upon the proeet4,,gs
of the ether flouse;'except such as ehould.beillthi-
pensable. He had intended to 'Milt the hill to Lty°
years, but as that term had been' proposed and re-
jetted in the Committee upon the Bill in the Lords,.
it had been suggested to him that the inseriion
that term might be objeationable, because the otbq
Hotise had already rejeeled it. He had therefore
adopted a -cOurse, which he hoped would give,
every satiOaaion to that House, and not be of
fthvi;v• to the other [-louse at' Parliament. The fits
btiloannkof htehesivtlo'ourlttlis,l";:eonteo I;aevaer Lfillets by the •
pas,frig of
the AB, and: until six weeks after the commove:,
merit of the Then next ensuing session of P,arlialocal'd
shorter period- than -this lie trail& Doe ita
would not, propose ; and, of thiS was only- the begin.
Bing of the inquiries which the Hotise-had threa4
to be made, this period.would afford ample oPPqr•
(unity to the committee of Finance and :the MeT2-
bens pf that House to inquire into and a,certstilcsi
what offices were granted in reversion; which '4'4..
be found not to be very numerous., lii prepo...l.ltl_.
this limitation lasimiatalttiuolnle,liehde
toheigtglt): the House to eoo:al.icr,
could not accomplish the whops of %,bvelicaatti4ll;ittli'ilajt
originally in view, he was bound to Pur'uet_.et,
course which: would insure arty part of his )0,1
With this view .it was that lie proposed that rl3a
o
itito‘ivlowulhdichbe
first blank shotild be filled up ill the I:l:l;neosruet
before stated. But as he was °D ills legs' *)- -„eulas
hcelestinrae6atitet
of the Bill. The alteration- he proposed -w.watd
substitute the word " Atispenti;" for 11°.10-
" prevent" thq: grant of offices in -revers ,
in
eseoe
. the preal9
It was of little moment in itself which wee_
was retained, .beottuse,.in fad, the dui atitto 70t.
tfoorp'rlutittzse.to vitt; an ..11_3,0,
Bill being waned to a limited period, it 6)' ;00
be considered in any other light than as a suspc9l,..of
and if this alteration should promote
the measure, he felt the more disposed tq,°!'?lteo
As to the other Amendments he had to pro(
trice
were merely verbal, and therethre_did nyot relituile to,
be particularly mentioned. Having e*POe`,rapoe,
lure of the
not
which he t
ti at
the p;'!'
,4r
he could not but express a-hope, that ip ]ti f„g tiat
Friend; who concurred with hini in, t!lo;
H..tise
est in tile
would 3 ties
lteahestßiollb
jschaoiuoludnbbei6sent up n
form, to the other Y
night, because to those Aniendmen
assent.—He trusted that the .alterauans wildaatiefatiory,
had just stated would appear .vito
Amendments which he had adverit'eaterPoileoni:oauflodrlitao.,
h it
Right . Hon. • Friend, whoSC AMendnlentts).'lc'et of
opened, were direEted to 'their ,co.Ttnonit
other
promoting ,the success of the Bin_
House ; and in that case he was sure hisftli!,,,, be
Friend would have no difficulty in rt. 'r
Amendments. •
as unwilling that
in pursuitl rP-Eoift theE rt aLs ul‘r
to be adopted on this occasion, should sit ..17110,1
the Lords a Bill SO entirely similar to tie i?; tint
possibly;:with any regard to theirfoirTe oti,l!
before rejected, that their- coucurrenees r:iris,ss-
tency, be expeaed. On this groom D:EI
fernier night, :.when his, Hen. Frierel
similar, it net•altogether the same as tha!,e7tin wsst
ly rejeeted in the Lipper House, -infirat: by
his
tesptets he considered the
j Honourable Friend improper.- He
in
titti.*
Mode a. 6„o..itiei`ed teen,
as e els DOW,t_hat the. limitation to Py, act,„,ees•
tee)), in, the other House; had otb. 1°
propticed by
.a &able Friend, of hiis.(Lor°
,tipat feature of the Bill- now befew,.l {lto'
atoer 1,.1
ether ;se than as belie; ,conveYea EijoOthc'
lie therefore cou'iti have, ti0".i(1t"i'cc:::::1;
wlucb it could not be
.expected t°

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• • , ,
'House. He had at that time intireated his intention r. which had stood in opposition to'llie IG:te.,'s Mieisters.
of proposit4'delouse, the objeaoftwiiichlwas entire-: The'Rieht Hon. :Gdritlenintirtnay—,
say. he weer(' em,
iv mistaken. Understanding that one great.ground of ; ploy ilte infieeneeof liiiedtlettg'ites; •b at it. was.eaaili
vempiaint against Grants irtißeeersiotevos,. that:the i -kiiewti, 'by a varieiy'tPlittle-eegiees;thei infiTidnee
want of notoriety attending, then) , was likely•often 'Was' tratisterred to •Otrerlisreisleethiligle-trigitiir
to give occasion to their -being en leitnproper per-', 'if...Single mss e ale- by Oi'iri,otti r•O%retiOwir.ftil tion
'otitis, he suigestiek 'as u reiriedy, .that eitery fttterel 4bttiaters .frsenistOeit''encl"etriikiiirtiW aitinterVent
,rant of the...kind -should -!. he:pliblislieti, in. the go.-i. was made with those personstiekhillie'Conla•be-dane.
i:ette. This proposition foieregulating the mode of tHereltiir,.M.'slitteted inkeetecletaiLefehe.eristiteanoiro- „
;ranting, was SU plioScii • I'6 ithely ,a detertninafiee i ceedings wielere.spekttesabis Measure, fitarti itaitarigiss,
..bat glints- in reversion should be invade; whereas.! ,41;esoletion:of.
,4
.tpe,comanittez of kitsance ;Me-the
.tie obje& lafethe ;Committee of • Finance. was to! :l`lastParliament, tsll,tl34—eentkftli,:tineite House
%cep
.Fverr officoos • fre:e ate' epee as possible tos of Lords,' :iair- mette's e 'of , the oepee4Oee
.01...„,per-
any reform they in) ii)t 'th3tik proper to. intro-. sons whti ought ' least to- hove ppppse4 „ii. _. In!
.dace. His prOtiasitein • Wha-•by- no :Means intend- every ferirto retielwal ilie. House lea-d°oiffer'ed.itCdivn
..ed to impede this Objeae b'ut having. been M. misuns' • mernette .4eationt'atteralioe: He thotigh'.i'llie same.;
,I•ersteod,and,titisrepreseisted, he .shoold abandon it: ' course- ought-to- be 2e.kipted' now, ',Ortile "House
He was. glad to find that so" far at least he pro-, would tlienspreaerVeits,cuesisteneyeWnth the Cows- t
Ceeded ';itetli the gii•Oreil 'approbatiotreof thelfouse.: • try, and the peoPltifia'y in 'wile thatillest• its . semi,-
Witli the alteration inethepreamble alsoe lie gladly meat, in sech a waVas' to compel the Lords to Cottle,
coincided, as it fell in with the wish of presenting . into the , general sentiment. An .Address 'of the',
..
.s new meiesure to the, other House. The former House wo.ii.:l,,in the tnean tune, sufficiently restrain'
. ~.
Bills proposed 'to' Aolistl grants ' in reversion- alto-. ' the Crown front 'making the giants Which it w.. 13..
gether. The present proposed only to suspend the -thought desirable to put a stop to, Thelimitat iOn ite.:it,
exorcist: of that patif of-Theprerogative fora time ' would not -render the measure more palatable to,,
to betlimited, ~;rrioo , LiA. present Rill -wes.differeet ''. the Lords. • On these grounds he would ..propose,
from the other in substance and form. Whether .on the Report, to leave- out the limitation, and;
after alt the measure was likely to be so suppetted in to restore the Bill to it original state ; at the same
tke•lsorda ea.,,t4t R.l*til.arillouse, it was not for him tine! that it be cetild.have any assurauce thauthe Bill
'46 day, bite! he thoyiti. it ilictinibent on the friends t in its :present' shape would receive 'the concurrence
' lithheniedStire;'atiift"tin the frionds'of the cordiality of tire'-Lords, he would not insist on this amend-
(l3(•both libusee, to- avaideframing it so. that• there - Meat.. . • ,
_- would be obvious ground of eleectioo on the face.of. Mr. DAV tas GIDDY" stated a variety of caleela-
it, and consequently very 'Litre probability that it ' tion.s, the ohjtst of which we could not well ander-
' •Would pass. -On these grotindi'lle approVed of the stand...'. He apprOved of the uttenttan shewn to'llio
sneasui•e as it Was now proposed by his Hon. Friend, ! feeliiw3 of the Lords, • and: the tireinimity of the two
~ and forbore to press the amendments he had' on a Hou:.s.
'• former night suggested. He leer had some coill'i.tr ,but . . . .
'Mr. .t.tot considered the ny..,asure al ..a tub
• amendments also to vied; alrtending to the same
thrown to the whale, andleft ;31.,1)i.5, Majesty s Mi 7
effea, of making the measure more' acceptable to
;.nisters to float its own way.,', The, late Miiiisters
the Lords, ,by 'coming in a new shape ape; he con-
. .
matiaged ',heir tub.s.better ; the Bill for. ego, killing
leased that the course pursued by the Hon. Gentle-
i the Slave laude, forinmance their eiliinCeilar hav-
man, on mature consideration of alt the eircurb-o. . •
, ,iin.g
.remained., in Ito give it the final sani;tioo„,atter all
stances and all the reasons connedeci with the gene-co.illeagues had resigned.
...Though he tlloraeht,
. ral principle, rendered these amendments' untie- 'is
the 131,1 of no use, he was
-willing to gratify the pub-
His opinion of the :Bill itself was not
I lie b • e
changed. He neither saw those great benefits which Ii ~ yl e ' issin it • e ' .: • , . . •
some supposed likely to- result from it- in point of Sir' .I011,;V hEIPPOILT stated, at considerable
public economy ' - nor did he see that ,danger to the i length, a oumber of Grialts in,lieversioe in Jr-eland,
PrerogatiVe.*llich existed 'in ' the' apprehensions of ' which
,prevented the reformation of the offices Wititeh•
'some of the Lords. So far as it was represented to were the subjea of them.; The office of Stores
Uri:public, that any great diminution of its burthens ' keeper •of the Pert of Dublin .wad granted to three
mild' be.chininislied by the • retreechment of these 1 infant children, whose right would he tai 'lse....pers
offices, the promise was delusive, •and would beat- I.chased,hefdee'a proper system' of./Mlie °storaere eueld
tended with great disappointment; to that represent- i betclOpted:. - The office of Cranelte4eper and Whart-
ation, therefore, he wished t0.,1)e tio party.- Oa the ! inger of the Port Of Dublin was under shriller cit..
' other hand, with rspea7TO the Prerogutiya:of the •: curastancee, being granted •in suceessino :to:the sons
Crown, thouh ,some alteration May be made'..l)y, the .:. et a Nqble Lord. . Su were the otlicvel of ColleCtor
• Bill for the present,' , by taking away, the liberty .1 of--Cork 4nd).-Custrinter of 'Wexford, -andethate 01
of. "making /wets an reversiene when the offices. so i2Testeref..epe.Wiees .revived, eher,having, been der-
. graeted,..should fall in the power 'of the: rQl4'ns. in i
.niant twO'centuries, in- lin,our of tilt: 4!g ht Hon.
that respefi w4.)ud be increased rather *hail dinlinish- JohL) L.:tresforcl,qad his seers:He. did hot wish to
„ Jed,. , lie was..a opihith' i ~ that, grants in reversion 1 name any .one person invidiously'. —Tile Utiii.e. of
siiere. Often a cheap erode of reWindliig public service, Cnstonier- of• beblin is i in revereen to Lora Sey-
which weeld otherwise be to be tewarded by tiailai mour Conway ; , that
,of Collector., of` Garin,. to the
Atticl ituntectiate remuneration, at the public expellee, ~. two tons of Sire johe Lees, with reveraion:te their
-• Yet, -with this opinion', he thought it desirable That : father. It was ettongh that these to ou the
the Bill should pass both
,Houses .of ParliatnWnt, : Lble..of the Ltords, to coovince thens.euthe mischief
;because public. notice „had been attracted to it; and attending Giants: in Reversiene , But in . the . Law
many Members of 'that- House, •as well as a great -.1, bepertment, places of 9,
.19„. anti 12,0001., at. year,
aeortien of the-pes)pleetii of doors, looked upon it as If weN in reversioa.in like manner, ‘so fts to precinct=
~ ietitta,. in 'a ItigTdegree';-and- though• he. did aot le. refernv , aud lately, in an arrangetneutin itansfetrilig
e. , ...,,, . •
e roue epee at in that view, he tlionght so general. a 1 ,some part Of the business of the,Courto Ly.elit.ipwr•
'''foeliog egght to bey gratified, x.,berl.flo'niischiei could ..i to the Court of Comilion Pleas, it becanic necessary
''. resat. Ti- Vaisvie w, he tell in v,•ith the propositions_; to estimate tllp 'average produce of the to of some
criti,il-.Vet°,.•:44l'ielid ; ,tria:4,., ~,4.?n for not cues ~: oinces of the,, Exchequer: ,for three years,• and make
ltilseini sLhigtit-iva.i; thitche Want'al.to be itiftnin- ' provision for compensating any defalcation by graiois
a ail' t
~;:ft'Veise, ' course ' his floilourable Frlind is the Consolidated Fund. Here the Honourable
*0,4510,0 . . 2_, ‘• ' , - . j . ' ' ,' ' 1 Baruriet eituteel-ated • various' instauces of corrupt
t
to 44,Nr..li'liit.B1MAD,...aikei-vlng. that whit ',had' graets' and ettgagernhtsttiade at the Union', all of
tebeettletceded ;to by the Aights Hon. Chancellor! ofthe ... winch were scrivelonsly kept,' though the pledge of
eXt4ll•6lir Mae be supposed likely tb.be aceepetible 1 CathOlic
~Fatiaoeipatione antL every Other :public
beita•llia lids,, thought that it may be; in. sot mea- •', :pledge, was shamefully fbrfeited.
tollttireiellotteltided thatthia would ,be the last. timeilltel ll/r. BIaDULPII ,Wade some- -remarks on the
jlouse would have to agitate 'this tansure. Act '-,,:e- beervetions of Ginisy, who.oplaAtted.
Mr.
lweitS4-141644Thdlity assurance!. to this etteet, and lie l'' . : • •
:"lictathtl Vi Ts;ible that the Honks' way.,haVe again to'; 1.11r.; 77ERAlLy wished to know .whether the
go'bVer the same ••erdtmd, eved 'after the proceedings Bill having beee altered in conformity with I he:
''' lliafi4etit4ti fit% tibouta to be Itlkeiul' Ho should take suggestion of the Chancellor of 'tile Exchequer,.
this opperemity to state his sentiments on the go- would be coitsidered as a Ministerial Measure, and
literal prinigple;; as.' eliell: ag' oh' the' pretent naodifi-• as such whether 'it Would have the whole_ support
cation. 'He— immediateagreed thateo great Nay. of GovernitiOilt in both -Houses. We in.
ling was',lo:,,fie e.x0..-eefed'l
.hut 'ol'o ciltirnate saving ' it to.be intimated in answer,- that the. Bill was not a
in a pecuniary point of view, would tie considerable. Ca•biliet measure, and that it would be. highly. ini-,
There were, however, burthens of ficeling which f)rOpt.,:r to sa'y any thing here as,te the decision the
were even more oppressive thatt the pecuniary , other House may cerne to •upon it. -.-
.-.Austhens'of tire. people, aceinnulated as they' were 1 Lard PORCIUSTER thetight the '-etitatogOe of
.eittet.the'...presenpeineteenta
.and
.to these • btu-them. ahnse's;enturie•ritt'ed by the Hon. Ra'ronet-; (Sir John
of7fealin4 that measure would. be a great ‘allevia- :. Newport), ouilii !,troqty. to inipress the - Hirise
-tion. - ~A great
,revolution- latel .been operated- ' wit ti the necessity of eassin„ey this'lllil.•--He hoped,
. .in *the soniments ,of tile ,-Houottrable- ,Oetttle-- that \elle'ibis. war Coillitield,, the oCeasioni aeon-
': lush oppwite .wfith.respeet tce•t hie totl. . He could. - ferriog public reWerds •,s ould Ue freqUent • and that,
;not .. , i i
'•'. ;not say-'whet her this, had. beep etii46ted -bp the, sense- - hi)weer great'l the publib"bUrtheris,. such .Claitus
of.• the people, or the hand,of lite...people, or 7 thelr'WOuld Always be genstruUsfY, replied' to:• But - the
..•ellight 'llon,.G.entiquilin:4‘,tcolleogueti lii other; j but- • 'ef•fi'Oes 'which were nude chi, soject of reveritionary
'c'Ativiever it iliid beStWailelecl, he. re io the Right grants were given to iiilatits of Court favotirltes, .attfd!
I.i.i Hon. .CieutioinatV.s.-sletermination 4() give up • the-' not to distinguished th4itary 'ornaval servalus,Thlid!
7- .Amendmetkv, iwilicitmould render. the measure al-- . therefo'R,.. they '.cOhlil Wat b4coirsider':(l. cheap meals,.
. together •titigetury... l'ioitt theettotirleation in the' . of Coliferring reviaid; • ''From the petie. werance of the
e. S4azette, tee esreet whatsoever: could.. be expeaed,'- 'ile,Lie in thii',slll it had acquired a 'conseltience
exeol4 that'fiCest#l7.4lllng a elaifo.totwaTimsation' 'abroad, which'bepii now to give It ' importance
- .. :if no opperatiooltiouto oe made, 7iind,thti,COillillittet, . wbe.re it Wash:chile...regarded with Indifference.. He
of Fmante should atterwerdeeotrat to-alesolutiun to.'' Wia'autpri4d to hear the Finance Minister of that
. ietb'OiisletiseotheesAa.gratiled. -Dot ow‘thuse'omencl-' 'Fli;use, say it was iMpossible' to'' send the Bill to
1' .intents were a elimptishedeeud it he Right Hoti.ett t le-. she Loyils in its loaner shape,With'imy elaim'upon
4..ii'lta,LOunlY soYettetsteptat Poi ilia in: such a. 'shape' 'their Lordships fur 'common attention. He, did.
as would be likely to secure it from rejet:tiyu iti the suppose the House had means, at least' he. khevi
other 1-lonso.! lie shonlatbr himself be as sorry as atiy , our anCtstors;. in their - House of Commons, had
One to qtdetel with the Lords. But When the measerer ' means to obtain 'the consent of the - Lords on such
in quest ieit Was ore . that, had three times passed this oQo4siOnS, and he hoped the present Conitnont would
Hodse in ill original-shape, with only one dissentient show a little of their spirit. If the present , modi-
voice (that of Me: W.Dendas)e, and'when he learned lic;;iii,ns would render die Bill acceptablo‘, he Would
;!hateertain.p4ll4(4l6 Of greet weight int•heotherHouse gi\•c theta his approbation ; bet if the Bill should be
' 413,,,.,\71 C1'te",..4:470)4e5c
.againkt, the Kim...ie le„of the still rejeCled, he would have the House dome thr-
;:' 7e4140-,41•44*-I.habrOe aKiority agonise tile limitation id ward again and.4oain, unawed either by-lhe power
tulle was'greater than that'weight o m t lines. • ,
against. the 1141 itself,. 'Os' PritiCes, or-the t' ,l'o . ,• • -
---dustearesiaiingeoshe—ConsiStency of-the House woqd lire Ir4I,BERFORCE maintaiued the prep-140;P
and •thouglit
be sacrificed in vain% .by -ratastini the 13i11 which
would in no sire be-accepteble.' The Right Hon. . ;',
i?til-I;:ii,arllilyt 311)111;101 :cc) tic:ord .With the Lord=„
er to tiv'aid'O'il'endhig their: former de-
teq.-
iseetirentipslvo4
,esse!il "that'aidi.'liiisitation proposed by. 4- -''- 'h ' ... ''': eisioni,hy the, e. cotistt oction of the Bill: 'Thi,s atten-
-' hiC,NobleCulies' gue in the,cither House had his con—'
. .t.ion'svas particularly desirable, lilt woeia insurelho
curreDcP. )Eh 4-1 not the'Rightllon, Geht. de- -• f.- I
dare 'lei itiClitiXtra here to Make stieh' a liteitatiO. ' Bill, 1 ' a I I k ' ' -
~.phsit)l,l 0 t it, Vi MI
~, ie ..00. eci capon as a tite.:t-
sure of„; great iMpoytance:- The ii-cle(.--A or iiol4iiin.
. --iliat t be•Nobleilord who:dicl propose it found 11:rn•• :'Ol the principle laid down by the Coininittee at
~ 44t-4.:1,*•1944ky lanaedogithi4 ,thc litsipp,s and the : V:- nce' was enough to expos.e AI c);-‘,': , i,.ot -tt,,
I'tirc..7s of the filocii. How teas, it ~u.).lcie esiletio,.d :3`t • - ' 5'
'r -I'l - •
• ett0w.1,14put.41.4u5aiiiieti0,.)0,44,t4144y.t.,,jetite4.,54041.r.,,,,-.1.
~.., siil.e.czaitirpizpi;ulii,o,4.ll„.tu_.. _ He was'.
~..anitotes eelatefe.fo_re that
• 4i,ir the measure aci.:vptableizoa-the satne.maibritrit ~ • sho,dl,---d .be tnaut..,LAl. ned„ an in propfir-.
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