The Sun.
London, England, 1830-11-19 00:00:00

SPIRIT OP TIM PUBLIC JOURNALS.

The new Administration hat, we believe we may
affirm, been completed in all its parts, except the
Legal Departments. It has been formed under
the direction of Earl Grey; and it is not true that
hilt Lordsbip declined the duty, which his Mitjesty
confided to him in a manner the most frank and
cordial. Mr. Brougham, it is positively asserted„
has resolutely declined the Seals; and it was not
until he was assured that much depended on his
,iccesshmt to the Government, that Lord Althurp
could be prevailed upon to accept office. The new
Cabinet has been formed without alloy. It will
boast the effective services of Lord Palmerston,
with the commercial wisdom and brilliant eloquence
of Mr. Grant—the shadowy line which at one pe-
riod divided the enlightened Statesmen of Mr. Rua-
kisson's connexion from the other friends of liberal
politics being happily obliterated. Of the arrange-
merits no more has transpired than Lord Grey's
personal inclination to be at the head of the Adini-

rslty, which he formerly occupied, rather then any
ether department; and that Lord Anglesea, with Mr.
Stanley for his Chief Secretary, is to have the
Lord Lientenatitcy of Ireland. In this case Mr.
Doherty would remain most probably in of as
Solicitors General. It is believed that Lord. Grey
will not assume the ostensible position pf Premier:
but that Lord Spencer, or probably Lord Carlisle,
will be at the head of the Treesary, the members of
the new Cabinet each enjoying that influence over
the couriella of the Government which may fairly;
belong to him individually, without being subject to
the same dictation on the part of any sine
as characterized the late Administration. Lord
Denkett has unquestionably been referred to;
but of what nature the proposition made to . him is,
we cannot state with any certainty. To Sir John
Leach no application has been made; nor is it con-
templated to put the Great Seal in Commission.
Lord Melbourne is named as one of the persons in-
eluded in the present arrangements, which, notwith-
standing the, contrary reports industriously circulated,
we believe to be in great measure matured,' We
do not find Lord Anglesea's appointment to the
Government of Ireland, or the nomination of Mi.

Stanley, likely to meet with. any general approval
among the parties most immediately concerned.—
Morning Chronicle.
It is generally thought that 'Mr. Denman Will be
Attorney-General. With respect to Mr. Brougham's
refusal of the Chancellorship, under an Admini,rpAl
tion of which he approves the politics, people know,
not what to thiolc. A public man who refuses offico:`,
under such circuMstances, can only do so because he'
thinks the office beneath him ; and the Chancellorship,
is not generally thought beneath the ambition of at
lawyer. Office enables a man to carry his view!:
into effect; and to reform to take office is only there-'
fore justifiable when a man cannot act with an Ad-
ministration. The principles of the Administration
may, indeed, be such as the Learned Gentlemmt:
cannot approve of; which would be a valid juitifi.
cation of refusal. Time will throw light on this
matter, which at present seems inexplicable. We
know that great difficulties have been experienced
in the forming an Administration on certain under-'
stood principles. The Marquis of Lansdowne had no
concern. with the arrangements so late as yesterday.
forenoon.—Morning chronicle.
which cannot yet be, censidered,
gooTdhaeurtohicl)orwityin,ginitst
in all respects, as definitively settled,: --
list of the 'new .Ministry, from„
Premier..
Lord Chancellor Lord Plunkett.
Chancellor of Exchequer Mr. C. Grant.
Foreign Secretary Lard Palnieraton.
Home Secretary Marquis of Liinerlowne.
Colonist Secretary ilonAlfr. Stanley.
Ordnance
Admiralty..... Viscount Allitorts.
Ireland, or the choke (AI
Marquis of AngteeeC
the florae Guards
Secretary to Ireland Sir H. Parnell.
Lord Holland had come ,to town, and was
stood to have taken a part in the conferencea rola-
live to the formation of the new Ministry yeattudoy,
though it doe!s opt speer, at present, that be has
accepted tiny office. Some doubts were expressed
in 'the morning as' to whether the Marquis of
Lansdowne would join the Ministry, on the ground"
that he objected to making Parliamentary Beforni is
Cabinet measure, and this report excited wnu stir-
prise. Mr. Stanley was else mentioned as the Se-
cretary for Ireland.—Morning
It is remarkable that some of the Journala„who,
but a day or two ago were favouring the public With,
a list of the new Ministry, were yesterday as' silent
on the subject as if the Government of the country
were going on in its usual train, They were
,resh,
at first, and are now sagacious and prudent. The,
stories afloat are wholly unauthorized, though, of.
course, some names by chance may turn up to be
right. For ourselves, we believe that nothing, is
yet done towards the completion of this most &Ili.
cult task. Indeed, •it is unreasonable to expect an.
immediate settlement of si important a question.,
Mr. Canning took, we believe, 20, the Duke of Wel-,
iington 24, days to (OM their respective Ministries.,
The present state of the country, however, melees de-,
spatch a very high and urgent duty; and we trust Lord:
Grey will meet with no vexatious impediments.—,
We should be sorry if individual caprices,fantail-,
tical self conceits, desires that shrink from ieir own
accomplishment through the consciousness of in-
competence, and yet refuse to acquiesce in an exclu-
sion which it is affected to court, should stand in the
way of an easy and final arrangement. If there are,
such humours, we wish they were handed over to
us : we think we could dispose of them either now
or hereafter under an hottest Administration, sin-,
cerely disioged to rational economy and temperate,
referm. There is one thing with respect' to the
retiring Chancellor which we venture to hint: if
he remaine, the country: saves the pension, and
economy is the order of the day. The pithlic, too,
begin to ask is there not something absurd in the
system whichuonderrins the clearest, head and most
vigorous undirontriding of the profes.ion, without
the slightest syMptorn of impaired energy, to long,
or, perpetual inaction or inutility t —notes.

We regret that we have but little of a proiti% 0.
nature to state respecting the composition of ti
new Ministry. The negotiations are prueettlitigt
with secrecy, but with as much despetch as could,
have been expected under 411 circumetancea; end-
we have little doubt that to-morrow, or on Monday.
ut leteat, we shall have it in our power in announce.,
the names of the principal Members of the new,
Administration. Mr. Denman has been appointed,.
Attorney-General; and there is no one in the.
,United Kingdom, we are.confident, with the creep.,
tion of Sit...l4lnel- &aloft, who will bet leinlC4l
and approve of, the notnination, The place was first,
offered to Mr. Brougham; hot he declined it, as well
As every other, on public grounds—which proves
the bmeness of thorn who have made it trade or
accusing hinimbi7sitiethadhtir4ellinagppaotiliiibtiintieoar
idli,treantii,,
°Mr, Dimmer). The Greet. Seal is to be put, in tl e„
mean time, into commission, but.,no arrangement
has yet been made for the dirpoesl of the husinstat,
in the Court of Chancery. Sir James Scarlet', it,
its understood, is to have the. Chief Common-law!
`Judgeship, In consequence of a promise made to,
hint to that effect by the Duke of Wellington, at,
the time be became Attorney-General. The Lord
Lieutenancy of Ireland hes been oferett to. the
Marquis of Anglesea, and we have, resew to believe
shat there is as little doubt of his accepting the
appointment, as of discharging the duties of the
!Alice greatly to his own credit, and to the Mit,
faction, as well as the benefit of the country..
This is all that we know positively on the subject
of the New Ministry. Berl Grey tam his Mejtesty.
Wednesdey and yesterday, arid, no doubt to-t.
ported progress, end took hit Majesty's farther pleas,
sure with respect to other appointments; but, as we,-
have already observed, the negociations are tarried,
pn with secrecy, and nothing heyerid what WIC have
mentioned above was known last-wig 4 apto44ls
hour, In the mean time, 411 at tretteehaht

thrint Aors hat .0 torched from their canton-
outA, ot, other wools, have tendered their re-
siirtottions, hid) have, To doubt, been graciously
actrpted. r his is as it should be, aud proves the
Cleft s. of h Ml,rity to afford to the new Govern.
rnekt every rn,-nns of accomplishing its views for
the twit of the couotry. After all, however,
consiOs tr g that the 'Treasury boroughs arc in the
/anti& aft he Ex-Mil tern and their creatures, the
view, Csbinet will have work enough on its hands.
We wish it well through it, and counsel it to rely
on the country, instead of confiding in aristocratic
predilections. The time for the latter is past and
gone, end whoever may be the Members of the new
Government must look for tomport in quarters, and
from conduct, of a totally different character,---
Morning Adviriiser.

The idea of putting the Great Seal in Commis-
sion would not be very palatable, as some manatuvre
would be stispected..---Ahr /ling Chronicle.
WAR ohsetved last night, in the Muse of Com-
mons, by Mr. J. Wood, that the object of those
who agitated, the Repeal of the Union in Ireland
was to effect a reform in the Irish Chtircht This
we have already advanced ; and we trdiVit, more-
over, that the interest of Protestant landholders %t ill
prompt them to ahl in this worls. A. sinecure Chord),
which the Protestant Church of Ireland is, will ex-
perience the fate of tither sinecures. Mr. Hume 06.
served, that nit could no longer be Write that
Clergymen, who had no parishle•Aers, should re 7
ctive large emoluments; or that such immense
'rums .•-should be paid to Clergymen. Whoever
the new Minister Wight be, he should be an-
servient to the vishea of the people, and not tit-
tempt to rule them with a rod of iron." Mr. P.
Browne:, an Irish Marcher, spoke ent,tigh to show
she quarter the wind bltivo from among Irish Maui,
beet. In fact, the landholders of the country art,
now in a state of extremity—the high Ar;siteracy
alone have an interest in keeping the (13hurch as it
is ,—and as usual the weakest will go to the wall.
Of thin the gentry and yeomanry in England are
beginning to be aware. Many are now coquetting,
'with this quastion, \sho will speak loud ere
Morning Chroatick.

It will be seen, as we stated ywiterday, that the
interference of the Allied Courts in the affairs of
the Ne,therlands was merely an net of humanity
They limited their mediation to the proposition of
an armistice between the contend* parties, till
measures should be taken to ilfiftvst their differences.
No opinion wItS expressed or implied respecting the
previous conduct or vxl,ting rights either of the
King of Holland or of the Belgic people. It would
appear that M. de Potter, probably finding that his
weight in the State was not equal to his idea of his
own 'importance, has resigned his seat among the
members of the Provisional Government. The
grounds on which he has divested himself of his
power, are either very inconsistent, or very eniguutti.
expressed. Ilis colleagues proposed to resign
their authority into the hands of a body which, in
their opinion, represented the nation. lie refitted
to subscribe to their resignation. They were re,
guested by this body to remain in dike till a &fit&
tive arrangement should be formed, and agreed, at
such it flattering solicitation, to continue their ser.
vices. Ik, on the other misted mt
rr-
signing. Thus he would mither resign, nor con-
thine in dice with his colleagues, but resolved on
retaining power when they proposed to resign,
and resign when they engaged to net. The ground
of this extraordinary course seems to be some, odd
notion which he entertains reepeeting the origle of
his mission nnd the extent or hIM power. it would
he ridiculous to appeal to Ordinary rules on occa-
sions of crisis or revolution, which overturn all Or-
dinary laws; but, us soon as the storm k passed,
order should be restored. M. de Potter and his its»
sedates enuld suit receive their power from any na-
tional delegation, because ten national delegation
*Awed et the time ofunerelty when they constituted
themselves a Government, hut they were bound to
restore it to this delegation when formed, miller the
penalty tet being considered as usurpers. But it
would be needlroi to argue further on the unintel-
hiplArt theories of an ambitious man, on whose letter
hie countrymen passed the order of the day.—Tinter.

It was only in the last Session of Parliament that
the newspaper, which has taken to itself the title of
she " leading Journal," discovered a curious ;symp-
tom of the stability of the late Ministry, which it
hastened to comtnunicate to the public. The Ministry
Were nearly beaten upon a division in the House of
Commons, and the Journal in question, with espirit
of optimism that even Dr. Pangoss might envy,
Wtavely informed its readers, that to be " nearly
beaten" exactly what the Government ought to
congietulate theroselves upon, for that their weakness
in Parlianient Was It certain proof of their strength
with the pent*, This might have been considered a
very good sarcasm if it came from any quarter but a
friendly one. The " leading Journal" was, how-
ever, the zealous organ of the Wellington Administra-
tion, and could or be suspected of insidiously
taunting the object of its idolatry by the hitter plea-
santry of an ironical jest. When we say the object
of its " idolatry," eve do not hastily apply the term,
for never was more fulsome and unceasing adulation
offered up to any idol than the Journal in question
was daily in the habit of regaling that statesman
with, whom, since his fall from power, it has discos
'erred was never popular with the country ; yet,
when either his civil capacity or his popularity were
doubted on former occasions, no indignation was
too strong, no invectives were too coarse, to con-
vey the sentiments of profound disdain and lofty in-
tolerance with which the parasite Press regarded such
heretical opinions. Many. a fierce blow and many
en oblique shaft were directed at ourselves for
daring to question the infallibility of the military
Premier, or to doubt that his political gettits, aided
by the talents and virtues of such a Cabinet as he
had the rare merit to construct, would work the sal-
vation' of the country / Not many revolutions of
the moon have passed since we stood almost alone
in exposing' the fallacy of measures which corn-
minded the applause and profound admiration
of nearly the whole of the London daily Press,
Cortairdy; it cannot be Said to be for want of
support its the newspapers that the Welling-
ton Admitsistrstion has fallen; and if that Ad-
Ministration had adhered in practice to their so-
/emit and repeated professions of correcting public
abuste,veforming . the administration of justice, les-
sening the burdens or the people, and carrying into
effect, honestly and vigorously, all practicable re-
trenehment and economy, they ahatild litive hat!, es
fur at these measures extended, our sincere support
also. But when we observed that their chief object
wee to keep place and the emoluments of office,
and that the public good was only secondary in their
estimation—when we observed that, to carry. their
own objects of ambition, they relied more on the
loselotriguet of cunning, but not able, underlings,
than oe the wisdom and virtue of their public mea.
sires, and the honest arts of manly statesmanship
."*.'efli did not take great credit to ourselves for
atigatity, in foreseeing a disreputable and disastrous
Matte their career. .Kathy, indeed, did it augur for
the various honesty of their political intentions,
Whoa, Instead of inviting the most fearless discussion
of their measures, they endeavoured, to establish a
tribtraal terror over public opinion, and to utterly
destroy the principle of free discussion by the most
vloleot and unrelenting persecution of the Press of
which modern history, in a free &ate, affords any
example 1 As to the aureessora of the late Ministry.'
theirstok will be, perhaps, more difficult than that
which hot Ministry had to undertake sinee the retro-
,They heVe to repair the errors oltheir pre-
deeeasore, which lave produced roost serious mis-
chief; and they hove Also to grapple with events
more extraordinery then any that: have agitated the
political world since the tremendous; crisis of the
French !republic. Those difficulties must he met
boldly, fairly, and honestly.. No Crs'ott iatrigues, nu
diplomatic menceuvres, no mere Treasury -metals,
will enable any set of Minhtetis, itt.tilltell like these,.
to fit111111)1tIt the perils which Anatet the common,
wesith., I.4at.acen end boldness is wanted

which is equally remote from feeble indecision anti
ignorant +obstinacy. It will not di) any longer to!
tamper with great questions, according to the shift-
Mg, equivorating, and despicable doctrine of ekpe.
&envy. No Ministry will now satisfy th%'_, erMritry
that do not unite political c!tindetti... With a clear and
comprehensive view of affairs, and who do not also
possess that moral intrepidity which disdains eve-
don and subterfuge, and dares to avow and act
upon fixed, certain, and intelligible principlea, if,
as it now appears pretty certain, (hey is to be
the Premier of the new cablf!t*:i, we may anticipate
i
that a temperate reto"7:l n Purliament will be a Mi.
nisterial meas.:re. This Avid have the.effect in time,
of cn"."recting many of the abusers in tloVernment of
which the public have long had reason to complain;
for, if we had htal 'a reformed Parliament prior to
the calat'litrins event of the first American war, a
'gain of evils which flowed from that utineres-
sary and unnatural conflict would 10.`-e been averted,
and the nation would not ;lbw be encumbered with
eight hundred! tnillions of debt, and the enormous
taxation necessary to pay its interest. But, though
Parliamentary reform will produce hereafter a great
and beneficial change in the system of ooVernment,
it can afford no itnerediate r'6lief to the suffering
people—that moist polite from such an effective sys-
tern of rvt.raehment and economy as will allow a
COnsiderable reduction of the public burdens. It
may be found necessary, indeed tr: repeal all
those taxes which most Oppress the productive
industry of tht nation, such as those , which
raise th *price of the necessaries and com-
forts of life in a manner that makes them
luxuries to the poor. When all preficable
economy shall have been ettfictced, it will be
seen whether &lib tr what part, of the assessed
(OM'S can lit repealed, and whether it will be ne-
eee','ary to substitute, for a partial system of taxation,
the more equitable impost of a property tax. We
observe that the leading Journal, anticipating a
Whig Ministry, has tdreetly deserted the camp of
the Dictator, end giVeil in its adhesion to Whig
principles; It is only a few weeks since the same
,iournal made a most truculent and exterminating
attack on that very class of politicians whom it
now so liberally flatters and corn:M ates. It is in the
recollection of the publiC that it pronounced a sen-
tence of political exclusion upon the Whigs, as u
party utterly unqualified to administer the affairs of
the country; anti now proh ruder I it ascribes their
avant of success as statesmen heretofore to their be-
big invariably betrayed by the King ! If the Whigs
are to be duped by such a shallow artifice to catch
their support, they must indeed be weak and gul-
lible enough to deserve the sentence of mental in-
capacity which the same journal so recently fulmi-
;wed against them I Could the Duke of Wellington
have rereseen this, he would probably have known
what value to have placed on the fulsome praises
which he received is power, and which are now, it
appears, to lie transferred, in all the beauty of
second.band lustre and freshness, to his political
antegoeists. It is fortunate for him he Las
other laurels than those which the hands of
his " fawning parasites" planted on his brows, and
which have been resumed the moment the sun of
power has gone down ! But, in the mean time,
" job" is proposed and strongly recommended from
the same quarter, as if to hallow time inauguration
of the new Ministry. Cart the public who have
riot yet heard of it, believe that any newspaper in
London has dared, at this moment, while pretend-
ing to ail rovate retrenchment and economy, to re-
tommeed that the present indefatigable and most
effective Chief Justice of the King's Bench shall be
induced to retire upon a pension, in order to make
room for Sir James Scarlet t, the ready tool of an
intolerant Ministry in the memorable crusade against
the Press I Only think of the modesty of such a
propnyal--that the country shall he saddled with
tiew pension for such a purpose I at a time, too,
when the Chief Justice is in better bodily health
than he had been three years ago, and when the
public and the profession derive the greatest ad-
vantage from his learning, promptitude, and expert-
ence,and when he is in the vigorous possession Of
all those faculties which have obtained for him the
great reputation of being one of the ablest Judges
that ever adorned the Court over which he to aus-
piciously preaidea.—Morning Herald.