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TITHES.

Lord SUFFIELD presented a petition from the hun-
dred of Dias, in the county of Norfolk, praying for an
alteration in the mode of the payment of the Clergy by
tithes. The whole of the petition was well worthy their
Lordships' attention ; but the petitioners stated in general
that the present mode of paying the Clergy by tithes was
injurious to religion on account of the irritation frequent!)
occasioned by it between the incumbent and the pa-
rishioners; and it was contrary to sound policy, because
it had a tendency to prevent improvement and the exten-
sion agricultare, and so far to lessen the means of em-
ployment for the labourer. It was a cause of injustice
also, for a farmer might be disposed to lay out some ca-
pital in the improvement of land in the hope that it would
yield him a profit after the payment of the tithe, but it
might turn out that the gain would he but barely sufficient
to pay the tithe, and thus the Clergyman would get the
whole of the profit of the farmer's capital, and the farmer,
of course, would hare nothing. He did not understand
these petitioners to mean to pray for anything injurious to
the Established Church of England; if they had, he would
have been the last man to advocate their views, although
he might present their petition, if respectfully worded.
The petition was read, and laid on the table.

The bake of AIONTR OSE presented a petition from
the Gorbals of Glasgow, praying fur the opening of the
trade to China.

Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented petitions to the same
effect from Buratall, and six or seven districts of the county
of York.

All these petitions were laid on the table.
The Bills on the table were forwarded in their respec-
tive stages.

The Marquis of SALISBURY gave notice that he
would to-morrow rove the third reading of the Indemnity
Bill.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—(LAST NIGHT).
A New Writ was moved for a Burgess to serve in Par-
liament for the borough of Dorchester, in the room of the
Hon. Mr. Cooper.
Sir C. BURRELL presented a petition flora Brighton
respecting the Duties on Beer.
The House then re.olved itself into a Committee on the
ELLENBOROUGH DIVORCE BILL.
Mr. Adam appeared at the Bar on behalf of Lord Ellen..
borough, and in support of the Bill.
The Learned Council, in a speech which was only upon
occasions audible in the gallery, detailed the facts which
have been already laid before the public in the Lord's Re-
port, He stated that he would bring evidence to prove
the solemnisation of the marriage, awl the fact of his
Lordship and his wife having lived upon terms of affection,
up to the period when his Lordship's suspicions of her
fidelity were first awakened. He would also show a con-
tinued course of adultery between her Ladyship and Prince
Schwartaenburg, from March, 1828, to May, 1829. He
said he would establish, by the best evidence, that her
Ladyship was in the habit of calling at the Prince's lodg-
ings, in Harley-street—that she was seen in his drawing-
roonf lay a person in an op' osite house, almost in a state
of undress, while the Prince was assisting her to make her
toilette; that it would be proved the bed at Harley-street,
which had ken made in the morning, did, after her Lady-
ship's departure, bear evident marks of two persons having
lain in it or upon it. He farther declared he would prove,
that after the Prince had removed to Holles-street, Lady
E. still cortinued her visits to him ; and that he would
also establish the fact of her Ladyship's having, in
February, 1829, left London, under the pretext of visiting
her only child, who lay sick at Brighton ; and that there
she net Prince S., and, on his sending up his card to her,
invited him to tea; that he left her sitting-room about ten
n'clock, and was afterwards, at the hour of twelve, seen by
a waiter entering her Ladyship's bed-room ; that the waiter
listened at the door, and heard his Highness getting into
the bed, and subsequently heard a noise, which the Learned
Counsel did not choose to dead ibe. He then read her
Ladyship's letter (which has already appear d in this Paper)
and argued that there was no►hing like negligence to be
imputed to his Lordship; he could not have been led to
suspect that his Lady's visits to Harley-street, in which her
another resided, could be urged by any improper motive, es
she was only absent from home between the hours of three
and six, at which time all ladies of I.er rank, as was wed
known to the Hon. Members of the Committee, were in
the habit of paying their visits, and taking their daily exer-
cise. Neither could he imagine her visit to Brighton, where
her only child liy sick, was dictated by any but the purest
motive. lie contended, from the tenor of her Ladyship's
letter, that she had made no disclosure of actual guilt to her
injured husband, although she might have confessed to some
indiscretion or partiality for the Prince. He alluded to the
confession made to Miss Steele, her early and confidential
friend, and proceeded to call the following witnesses :
Charles Freshfield and Paux, to prove the solem-
.niaation of the marriage. They did so in the same words
used before the Lords' Committee.
The Hon. H. S. Law also proved the solemnization of
the marriage, and deposed to the fact of his brother and
Lady Ellenborough living on terms of affection.
In reply to a question by Dr. PHILLIMORE, Mr.
Law stited, that Lord and Lady Ellenboreugh hail lived
together affectionately as man and wife usually ilo.
William Carpenter, the groom, was examined, and re-
peated the evidence he had given before the Lords, but his
answers were given in so low a tone that they were very
indistintly heard in the gallery.
Sir G. CLERK, the Chairman, was obliged to desire
the witness to speak cut, for nobody heard him in the
House.
In reply to a series of questions by Mr. HUME, we on.
derstood the witness to say that Lady Ellenborough was in
the habit of driving out in her phaeton, which she left at
the corner of some street ha the neighbourhood of Harley-
street; that sometimes he put the carriage up; sometimes
he drove about and returned to the spot where he had left
her Ladyship; sometimes he took the carriage home ;
sometimes he was desired to do so. He had lived with
Lord Ellenborough some time before he went to attend on

Lady Ellenborough in the phaeton. He mentioned to the
coachman the circumstance of the horses being kept out
bo long, but did not mention it to any other person. He
was not desired by Lady Ellenborough not to mention it. He
believed that what he said and what he did when he went out

with the phaeton was not generally known. He was quite
satisfied that he never mentioned Lady Ellenborough's con-
duct to any other person, never mentioned it to Lord Ellen-
borough. There was a coachman in Lord Ellenborough's
service, and he mentioned to him more than once that he
had put up the horses ; the coachman asked why the horses
were kept out so long ; sometimes told him that they had
been out for a lora.; ride, sometimes told him that they had
been out riding with Prince Schwartzenburg ; he had told
this to the coachman, and might have told him so when the
phaeton had been kept waiting at the corner of a street, for
sometimes it did wait, and sometimes her Ladyship did go
for a ride ; he did not recollect what the coachman said,
when he was told of the riding out with Prince Schwart-
senburg ; he was desired by Lady Ellenborough to drive
about, and come again, and then lie sometimes went to his
own stable to put the horses up; he knew Prince Schwart-
eenburg through the Prince's groom, but never talked to
him about Lady Ellenborough's going with the Prince ;
never talked about this to the coachman ; sometimes told
the coachman, told hitn more than once, that Lady Ellen-
borough went with Prince Schwartzenburg; saw her
when he left her at the corner of Harley-street, going to
her father's; never saw her go into any other house in
Harley-street than her father's ; saw her go into a house
with Prince Schwartzenburg at Richmond ; he told the

coachman that they went to Richmond, and that Prince on a stage to Brighton.
Schwartzenburg and Lady Ellenborough went into a house A post-master at Cuckfield, proved Prince Schwartzen-
at Richmond ; he did not recollect that he had ever spo- burg's passing on the road to Brighton, on the 6th of
ken to any of the other servants about Lady Ellenborough February, and from Brighton to London on the succeed-
going with Prince Schwartzenburg; Lord Ellenborough ing day. The witness underwent a long cross-examine-
never asked him where he or where Lady Ellenborough tion, but without eliciting any thing of importance,
had been ;he was quite positive he had never told the other Walton was again called, and swore to the welter at
servants about Lady Ellenborough's going with Prince the Norfolk Inn communicating to him what he had wit-
Esclovartzenburg. nessed between Lady Ellenborough and the Prince. The
In reply to questions put by Sir CHAS.WETHERELL, witness had never communicated it to Lord Ellenborough,
he stated that he had never talked with Prince Schwart- or to any body but his brother; witness's brother (the
aenburg's groom about the Prince and Lady Ellenborough, keeper of the Norfolk Inn) had discharged his waiter for
though he met the groom frequently ; he was boarded in mentioning what had occurred in the house; witness had
Lord Ellenborough's family ; he did not recollect that he been discharged for the same cause; his brother wished to
ever mentioned the conduct of Lady Ellenborough to any have kept the affair a secret, for he thought it might affect
other of the servants but the coachman. He never did the character of the hotel ; he had accused witness of
talk to the other servants about it ; the servants saw Lady having given the information of the intrigue which led to
Ellenborough and the Prince ride together in the Park ; Lord Ellenborough's sending his agent to collect evidence ;
but lee never did talk to the other servants about it ; there witness had not written any letter to Mr. Freshfield on the
was some talk about it among the servants; he believed subject ; Ludy Ellenborough, on the 6th of February, had
that what was going on was known amongst them ; there given the witness 201. for not divulging what had passed ;
were a great many servants, and he believed that they all witness had been to Lady Ellenborough, and told her what
knew ; most of them he was sure did ; most of them he knew, and she gave him the 20/., half of which he
talked about it ; they talked of Lady Ellenborough and gave to brother waiter to hold his tongue ; after wit-
Prince Schwartzenburg riding out together, and nothing I riess had got the 201., the other waiter went and divulged
else ; there was no jeering about it among the servants the whole story to his brother, the keeper of the Norfolk
that he knew of ;he could not swear that they had never ; witness kept the 201. till October, when he gave the
made a joke of it in the servants' hall ; it was talked of half to the waiter, for it had got abroad that he had re-
by the females, though what they said he did not exactly ceived the hush money; Lady Ellenborough had confessed
recollect. •
Ito witness that ahe had done extremely wrong, and en-
In reply to Sir HENRY HARDINGE, be stated that treated witness not
to expose her ; witness bad exposed

her to hit brcther the egy after he took t'ie 201. 1= r
secrecy.
Robert Heppel was again called. He communicated ti
Walton, his master, at eight o'clock in the morning, who,
he had seen in the night, and then communicated it ti
Walton, the waiter; never received any money from Lei
Ladyship, but had received only 51. from Walton, the
waiter, for secrecy, two or three days after the 7th of
February ; he said it was a present from Lady Ellen-
borough, and witness thought at first it was for his services.
Cross-examined by Mr. HUME—He had never re-
ceived any in October; be received the five pounds a few
days after her Ladyship bad left the house; when he told
his master what had occurred, he found his master knew•
it ; witness was surprised at this ; witness had not told
any body else ; witness left his situation in December, in
consequence of his having mentioned this ; that was the
cause of his discharge; at the time he was discharged he
had not received any money; he was discharged because
he had appeared to give evidence in this case.
By Mr. IL GORDON—He was not discharged for
writing any letter ; he did not write any letter to London ;
he had never received ten pounds from Walton ; he had
never received any thing but the five pounds ; he meant at
that time; he received five pounds then, and some time
afterwards he received another five pounds; that last five
pounds was lent to hint ; Walton lent it him ; eo he cou-
sidered ; he had not yet paid it back ; when he had mid
that he only received the five pounds, he did not think he
had been asked about the five pounds that was lent.
By Mr. 11. GRANT—At the time this sum of five
pounds was lent, Walton told witness that it was a loan.
Mr. IL GORDON commented upon the gross contra.
dictions in this witness's evidence, and then moved espe-
cially with reference to the last part of his testimony, that
Walton should be called again to the bar to confirm or
contradict it ; and that Heppe] should remain while Wal-
ton was questioned about the matter.

Mr. HUME also wished that Walton should be calls d
back.

Walton was then called back to the bar; and in answer
to questions from Mr. Gordon, said, that he had before
stated that he had received 20/. He received it to hold
his tongue about what had passed—in fact, as hush money.
Witness gave 101. of that money to Ileppel, the waiter.
He gave money to Heppel on the 10th of October last, and
not before that time. When he gave Heppel the 101., he
told Heppel that it was half the money he had received
from Lady Ellenborough to hold his tongue. He did not
give it to Heppel as a loan. He never expected Heppel
to repay him that money, or any part of it. He neither
lent money to Heppel then, nor since that period. He
had not given Heppel any money since then ; he had paid
the expenses of the witnesses within these two days ; he
paid these ten pounds in two sums of five pounds at a time;
be paid them within a short time of each other; the first
was about the 10th of October—not before that time.

Cross-examined by Mr. WARBURTON—He had never
told Heppel that he expected to be repaid the 101., or any
portion of the sum.
By Mr. IL GRANT—Heppel Lever told witness that
he would repay the money, or any part of it.
By Mr. R. GORDON—He did not give Heppel the
Si. before the 10th of October. nor while Lady Ellenbo-
rough war in the house; he never told Heppel that her
Ladyship sent him that money for his attendance; witness
was now doing nothing ; since he left his brother's he had
resided in lodgings; he maintained himself upon money he
bad previously saved.
By Sir H. HARDINGE—He did not give Heppel the
whole 10/. at once, as he was short of money at the time.
Mr. HUME asked Heppel how he could reconcile his
two statements—first, that he had only received Si., and
then that he had received Si. afterwards ?

Heppel answered, that he always conceived the second
51. was a loan; he never thought that he received wore
than 51.—the first 51. on account of keeping secret what
he knew about Lady Ellenborough. The that Si. was
given witness within a few days after Lady Ellenhorough
left the house, and that was for the purpose of keeping
him quiet about what he knew.
Mr. R. GORDON—What ! was that told you at the
time?

Heppel answered in the negative. When he said what
that money was given for, he did not mean that it was
explained to him at the time, but it was explained to him
some time afterwards, and now he knew what it was
given for.
[This testimony appeared to excite a strong sensation
among the Members. JI
Heppel continued—The cause of this money being given
to him was explained to him not long ago ; perhaps about
three weeks ago.
By Mr. R. GRANT—That was after you received the
second 51. ?
Heppel answered in the affirmative.

Mr. It: GRANT—Then how could you say that you
considered it as a loan, and that you thought you were
to repay it?
Hrppel said, he still considered it as a loan.
Some Mnataans said, the witnesses might go back
to Brighton, for what they were good for.—(Cries of
order.)
The witnesses were ordered to withdraw. _

Mr. HUME rose to move the adjournment of this ex-
amination. The Chairman ought now to report progress,
and ask leave to sit another day. He did not think any
advantage would arise from continuing the examination
at that hour.

Sir H. HARDINGE objected to that course.
Mr. R. GORDON supported Mr. Hunie's motion for
an adjournment. The House really was tco thin to pro-
ceed with the examinations at present.
Sir H. HARDINGE proposed that Miss Steele's ex-
amination should be taken. That lady was a witness of
undoubted respectability, and he should wish her evi-
dence to be taken now. He had every desire that the
case should be gene into most fully; for the more it was
examined, the more, he was convinced, it would appear
that Lord Ellenborough was entitled to the relief he now
prayed at the bands of the House. If Miss Steele's exa-
mination was taken now, he believed it would close the
case for the Bill ; and he thought it ought to be taken,
not only for that reason, but because that lady had been
in attendance some time, and if examined now, need not
be put to further inconvenience.

Mr. HUME opposed proceeding- any further at present.
He could assure the House, that when he first came
there it was not his intention to ask a single question,
nor had he done so until the apparent, the evident con-
tradictions in the testimony of the witnesses were so great
as to induce in his mind a suspicion of connivance. He
really had never read the evidence that had before been
given, and he should not have interfered at all but for the
cause he bad stated. He wanted to know what evidence
had been given, for he really had not as yet read anything
of it? It seemed from what he hai heard to-night that
all the servants knew of these occurrences for some
months ; in fact, that they had been the topic■ of com-
mon conversation in the family. Now he wanted to know
what the servants that had been examined had said, and
whether more servants would not be called to explain all
they knew about the matter? He had hoped to-day to
have been home by five o'clock, but he had been kept
here about this business until that hour ; and now he
was obliged to go away, for lie had a very pressing en-
gagement.

Sir H. HARDINGE pressed the Hon. Members to go
through the examination of Miss Steele.
Mr. HUME said, there were not forty Members in the
House, and he did not think with such a thin attendance
they ought to go into the examination of witnesses, some
of whom, it was evident, had received bribes, and their
testimony was therefore suspicious.
Sir H. HARDINGE said, that the fact that a witness
had received bribes did not of itself vitiate his evidence.

Mr. Alderman WOOD observed, that surely the Gal.
lant Officer did not mean to say that the evidence of such
persons was worthy of belief.
Mr. GORDON again observed on the very thin attend-
ance of Members, and said that Wednesday was rather an
awkward day to fix for such an examination.
Mr. HUME and Sir C. WETHERELL left the House.

Sir H. HARDINGE then observed, that if Members
who had taken an active part in the examination absented
themselves, it was impossible to go on. He repeated that
he wished the case to be most fully investigated, satisfied
as he was that the rent% would be favourable to the Bill;
but after the Hon. Member for Montrose and the Hon.
and Learned Member had withdrawn, he felt he could
not conveniently press the examination further to-night.
The further hearing of the case was then postponed to
to-morrow (this day).

The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at a Quarter to Nine o'clock.

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