The Sun.
London, England, 1839-06-08 00:00:00

ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.

On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL it was
agreed that the House at its rising should adjourn to
Monday.

PRISONS BILL.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved the Order of the
Day for the further consideration of the Report on the
Prisons Bill.

Mr. KEMBLE present. .d a petition from Dulwich
against the 14th clause of that Bill.
Mr. PAKINGTON said it ',had been his intention to
have opposed the further consideration of the Report on the
Bill, but in consequence of the advice of several friends it
was his intention to postpone his opposition to the third

reading.
Mr. WA KLEY wished to make an addition to the sth
clause, to which he thought there could be no objection,
as the utility of such a provision must be apparent to every
one. The proposal which he made was that the surgeon
should keep a journal containing a full description, written
in English, of the medicine and diet which might be
ordered for any sick prisoner.
Mr. AGLIONBY seconded the amendment.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL had no objection to the in-
production of these words, because he thought the pro-
vision likely to be a very useful one.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL very much doubted the ex-
pediency of the proposed addition.
Mr. F. MAULE thought there could be no opposition
to the clause. In any case of death in a prison an in-
quiry was necessary, and it was surely proper that
both the coroner and the jury should be able to know what
treatment the prisoner had received from day to day.
Mr. SANFORD thought there was a journal kept in
all well regulated prisons, but it might not be so full as
might be wished ; it would be satisfactory to he enabled to
refer to such an authentic document. He.would support
the proposition of the I-lon. Member for Finsbury.
Mr. WARBURTON was of opinion that a register
should be kept.
Lord DUNGANNON thought it was extremely de-
sirable that the additional words proposed by the Hon.
Member for Finsbury should be inserted.
Mr. WAKLE Y had abstained from stating his views
fully on the subjectoas it might be thought he being Co-
roner, had some peculiar interest in it ; but he would state
that it was impossible to gain any information from the
journals as they were now kept.
The amendment was agreed to.
Mr. AGLIONBY was of opinion a rule should be laid
down by which professional men and friends of prisoners
might be admitted to visit them. He merely threw out
this suggestion at first for the consideration of the Govern.
ment ; but, on the third reading of the Bill he should move
a clause to that effect, and would press it to a division.
Mr. FOX MAULE agreed it was necessary that some
specific rule should be laid down; although he felt no
doubt that the Magistrates of England would not refuse
admission under peculiar circumstances, it was necessary
to establish some rule ; that rule he should be prepared
to submit to the House upon the third reading.
Lord TEIGNMOUTH said it was not his intention, at
the present moment, to oppose the further progress of the.
Bill, but he should propose the clause of which he had
given notice on the third reading.
Lord DUNGANNON thought the Noble Lord oppo-
site (Russell) ought to give due notice of the time when it
was proposed to proceed further with the Bill, in order that
a sufficient number of Members might be present to dis-
cuss it.
After a few observations from Mr. BET HELL,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he would give ample
notice of the day when the third reading was to take place.
The Bill was then ordered to be engrossed, and to be
read a third time on Monday se'nnight.
ECCLESIASTICAL DUTIES AND REVENUES

BILL.
Lord DUNG A NNONvvishedlam
tiokne any specificowwhetherth dayeN on
Lord opposite (Russell) could
which this Bill could be discussed.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that he could not, although
he was most anxious that the Bill should be proceeded with.
On the motion of Mr. PAKINGTON, the Clerk of the
Peace Bill was further considered, and ordered to be read
a third time on Monday.
The Committee on the Imprisonment for Debt
Act
Amendment Bill was postponed till Thursday next.
Mr. MILES presented a petition against the Jamaica
Government Bill.
Sir G. GREY presented a petition from some place
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EVENING IMITION.

Mr. ESTCOURT presented a to•tition against the
Bill founded on the 4th Report of the • Ecclesiastical
Commissioners. •

Mr. KK M I3LE presented several petitions against the
Governm,nt scheme of education from places in Surrey."
Similar petitions were presented by Lord Morpctit
from Dewsbury, Ossett, and Mirfield ; and by Lord Dun-
gannon from places in Oxford, Sussex, and Durham.
The latter Noble Lord also presented a petition from
Birmingham, praying for a provision for the Church in
Canada.
Mr. HODGES presented a petition from the fruit
sellers of Maidstone, praying the House to take into con-
silention the subject of the fruit duties.

Col. PERCIVA L presented a petition complaining of
the conduct of the Sheriffs in Sligo, in returning juries.--
The petition was ordered to be printed..
Mr. W. WILLIAMS presented a petition from Mr.
Samuel Wells, containing important facts relative to the
financial affairs of the country, and suggesting improve-
ments in the management ;hereof.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. P. THOMSON presented a petition from the
becrsellers of Manchester and Salford against the proposed
alterations in the Beer Bill ; a petition from the mer-
chants, &c. of Manchester, praying the House to pass some
measure for aff,rding facilities for inland bonding, and
petition from the Town Council of Manchester to the same
effect. Also a petition in favour of an international ex-
change of b00k.,, &c.
Mr. PACK E presented a petition from Protestant
Dis;enters of Leicester against the late Government plan
of education.

Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition from Mr.
O'Malley Irwin, complaining that he was plain-
tiff in an action in the Court of Queen's Bench,
against the Marquis of Normanby, and that he
was defendant in an-ither case, which had been set down
for the 11th May, but which had, by the Marshal of the
Court been changed two days, whereby petitioner was pre-
vented from making his proper defence.
Sir T. FR EMA NTLE presented petitions against the
Government plan of education.
Mr. R. STE UART presented petitions for a penny
postage, and against the Corn-laws.
Mr. BAINE S presented petitions for and against the
late Government scheme of education.
Capt. PE CHE LL presented a petition from Brighton,
signed by upwards of 3,000, in favour of a penny postage.
Sir J. GRAHAM presented a number of petitions from
Carlisle, and various places in Cumberland, all against tba
Government scheme of education.
The Speaker then (quarter to seven) left the Chair. ,
At half-past eight the SPEAKER resumed the Chair, and
Mr. LABO UC HERE moved the Order of the Day for
the second reading of the Jamaica Bill, which having been
agreed to, on the motion of:the same Right Hon. Gentleman,
Mr. Bufics, the Agent for the Jamaica Assembly, ap-
peared at the bar, and addressed the " House" (consisting,
then, of about a dozen Members) in opposition to the Bill.
He contended that the effect of the decision of the House
upon the last Bill had been to decide that the constitution
of Jamaica should be preserved not in name only, but in
reality; that the Assembly should exist, not in shadow
merely, but in substance. The Bill now before them was
a fraud upon the House, which had come to that decision,
and upon the country, which bad sanctioned the justice of
that decision. The effect of the Bill was to make the
House of Assembly frame its Will to that of the Council,
and thereby give the complete controttl to the Colonial
Office. Was that, he would ask, the abandonment of the
Bill that had been lately introduced ? The House of As-
sembly was left in name only, by the provisions of the Bill.
The Bill gave to the Governor and Council power to re-,
rive all temporary laws—by reviving tax laws they would
infringe and abolish the 18th Geo. 3d, chap. 12, by which
this country renounced the right of imposing taxes on the
people of the colonies. The Assembly of Jamaica alone
had the power to impose taxes. They might think an
expiring tax law was no longer necessary, but under tho
Bill before the House the Government, by the advice and
consent of the Council, had the power to continue such.l
law; this, in fact, repealing the 18th Geo. 3d. That 131 h,
did as much as the former Bill to annihilate the powers o'
the Assembly of Jamaica ; it transferred its powers to the
Government and Council; in fact, it degraded it from 1"
functions, and that upon false grounds, for the Assembly
had determined to abstain from Legislation only until they
were left in the free exercise of their inherent rights'
There did not exist any necessity for the measure e°';
proposed. There was nothing in the proceedings bcf°.l.
the House which justified it in going to the extrewq
which this Bill contemplated. It was distinguishable 1:
no respect from the former Bill, either in its tendency
subvert the Constitution cf Jamaica, or in its tendency.w
subvert the popular branch of the Legislature, and to derivo
~
it of its exclusive privileges. There was one circumstance
which peculiarly distinguished this Bill from the other
it supposed the Assembly would proceed to Legislation•-••
that thus fctterrd in the exercise of its power, it would 1119:
ceed to constitute a mock Assembly, the shadow of thloo
1
which the Constitution intended they should possess. .'n
Bill, he believed, was proposed with the view of inducal
the Assembly not to resume its functions. He trusted,
however, that it would follow the fate of the other, for oe
its doing so depended the prosperity of Jamaica.
Counsel then withdrew.
Mr. LABOUC HERE then moved that the Bill be
committed. He meant to propose an amendment, giving
plenty of time for the Assembly to re-enact the necessary
laws.
Sir E. B. SUGDEN gave notice that he would move
that the first clause be omitted—he would take the sense
of the House upon it.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL understood that the Right
Hon. Gentleman would not take the sense of the House
, upon going into Committee, but would do so on the first
clause.

Sir E. B. SUGDEN said the Noble Lord had under-
stood him correctly.
The Bill was then ordered to be committed on Monday-
Mr. VILLIERS moved to re commit the Waterford
Fever Hospital Bill, in order that the Committee might be
to insert clauses enabling the Grand Jury of the
county of Waterford to present money, and repay the
county of the city of Waterford certain sums expended !II
relieving the sick of the county of Waterford, in sou
hospital.
On the motion of Mr. HODGErS, a Select Committee
was ordered to be appointed to consider the duties UP°
the Importation of Ripe Fruit.
Mr. P. THOMPSON would not oppose the met.e,,,
but upon the simple ground that the inquiry would tend .`',
show that, in consequence of the change made Ws
year, in the article of apples, no injury had bFet
done to the home grower, for in Antrim they
were PLiis
double the price they were in the previous year. 1s
:0
thought it was too much to say that in a bad apple yeae,lo
this country the community should be deprived et
opportunity of getting a supply from abroad.—(Cheee%)i
If the House were to oppose the introduction of applee;„,
a duty of five per cent., they would be dePairt:p
from those wise principles of free trade which he bar'
honour of assisting Mr. Canning and Mr. Huileisson
troducing.—( Cheers. )
After a few words fiom Sir E. KNATCHBULL, t,,
Mr. WALL ACE said he should object to the aPPul'e,
ment of the Committee. Were it not for the intro&
tion of foreign fruit into this country the poorer classes
would not be able to rejoice in an apple-dumpling a t °be
Sunday.—( Laughter.) He meant to take the sense
Home on the appointment of this Committee.
Mr. HERR IE S thought that a Committee ought to be
appointed.
Mr. M. PHILLIPS would not oppose a fair inquire);
into the subject, and would not imitate the conduct
s,
Hon. Members opposite, who, when the Corn-law Ste
tion was under discussion, refused to appoint a Cony:cut'
of Inquiry.
Mr. GODSON and Mr. DARBY supported the PP-
pointment of the Committee.
Mr. HODGES replied.
After which the House divided, when the numbers were'''.
For the appointment of the Committee 26
Against it l4
Majority _l2
O:, the motion of Mr. GODSON, the name of
D. W. Harvey was added to the Select Committee
the County Courts Biil.
The House adjourned at Twelve o'Clock.

COMMUNICATION WITH
ENG LAND.

(From the Dublin Evening Mail.)
The following are the new arrangements for the trans'
mission of the mails between the metropolises of the two
countries, now about to be carried into effect t,
The Day Mail from London, on the 20th instant,
wil.l reach Liverpool at seven P.m. the same day, and th
t
City of Dublin Steam Packet Company's mail pack-
is to carry over the mails brought by it, leaving Live
~'
pool for Kingstown as soon after that hour as the mote
can be put on board.
The Night Mail leaving London on the 20th instant
will reach Liverpool at half-past six A.m., on the 21st,
and the Government packet on that day is to leave
Liverpool for Kingstown at seven A.m., or as soon after
that hour as the mails can be put on board.
The Morning Packet, which now leaves Holyhead
at seven A.M., is to cease on and after the 21st inst.
The Evening packet, leaving Holyhead at seven p.S.,
is to continue as at present.
RETURN MAILS.
The City .of Dublin Company's mail packet is to
leave Kingstown at half-past five P.M., on the 21st inst.,
or as soon after that hour as the mails can be put on
board.
The Government packet is to leave KiIIgStOVVIT
half-past eleven, P.M., on the 21st inst., or as soon after
that hour as the mails can be put on board.
The packet for Holyhead is to leave Kingstown at
eight, A.M., on the 19th instant, or as soon after that
hour
a froms
ailscanabrtefoprudt,
aosnatbpoarersde:tt.o return tO
Holyhead whenever practicable, in time for the In
coacha"
them
thence
to H
The Irish (inland) mails arc, we understand to be
,
henceforth despatched from the Post-office at nine o
at night.

sir\EVdewaarrde
Krequested to state that Mr. Cornelius
O'Brien has paired for three weeks with Lieut.-General
errison. f
The last letters from the family of the Duke
Buccleuch state that his Grace still suffers from indist P
tion. The whole of the children had first the measle
aninastly the yellow fever, of which malady one of the°
died. tic]]
Our town is at present filling very fast, so al
so that maelywri of the principal hotels have been almosto:
able to acmodate their guests. This influx of visitors
is prubiblylkowing to the return of the fine weather.---
Cheltenhuni Chronicle.
A marriage is said to be on the to is beticee9
Sir Thom.inNWhicheote, Bart., of Asvvorby- hall' belie:b.;
tershire, and Miss Marianne Beckett, niece to Sir
Beckett.

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