The Sun.
London, England, 1830-06-18 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS.

It appears from our City article, that a good deal
of alarm and perplexity has ads-en from the dttla7ed
intentions of Government to modify the old system
of sugar-duties. Whatever intricacy Mr. Huskissen
and Mr. C. Grant may have anticipated trail the
scheme of reduction of which the t ntiine was drawn
on Tuesday last by the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer, must belon6 to the details of the measore
the principles at it seems to us, is plain enough—
viz. the proportioning the ambilbt of tax directly to
the market value of the article; so that sugar of
.t b. per cwt. shall no longer pay the same price
with sugar of 60s. The effect proposed by this re-
laxation of impost on the low-priced sugar, is the
important one of at once relieving that class of con-
sumers by whom the low-priced sugars are pur-
rhaied, and that class of cultivators on whose estates
the pressure of the old tax has been felt most
heavily,—viz. those which are capable of producing
no other but the coarse kinds of sugar. Undoubt-
edly, in considering his Bill, the Chancellor of the
F. chequer must be presumed to have given due
weight to a branch of the question which war
brought by Mr. Huskisson under the not;-
House—namely, the expediency
the duties as to prevent the -
thb `coarseSlit-41.11%6.1'1g
from working an add:.•
oanAl %.1(1 tiriclrt;- uponthose of finer '
think, ins- quality, Weed., the Scale is, we
suit ,teniowsly eontriVed ttl Counteract such re-
. It is obvious to ti.ll, from the whole conduct
pursued by the prevcrit Administration upon Wen't
I'l4l Pe'tionlit that there is no interest in the
pire more I.ikr:,y to obtain from it fair, and even
favourable., hearing. Mr. Gtralbtun admitted frankly
the d;sr•
ressed condition of a certain portion of our
eoleP•tes.—Timet.

A. conversation of considerable interest took
"ace in the House of Lords last night on the sub-
Sect of the privileges asserted by the Commons with
respect to money-bills. Lord Wharncliffe atattd,
with great clearness and accuracy, the printiple on which the House of Commons justly claimed •'„,
right of originating, and regulating, and c
quantity of taxation to be levied on 14
fact, this privilege is the very es.- --sen, 'VIP. In
eciple of the House of Co— ~enct erkd \mai prm-,
given up or altered, a- cnce be;
lives loses its pecul, ktitt nouse'd representa.;
debating asseno Ala,rattermid beconies t iniire
to counter' '‘,l4.oY.ont slighkt'•it real power
Crolsr -AONtite Itneri.rn. ze patronage of the
the at,a4l tthe `Sctlielly concentrated influence of
`..„:l,Z4cit'ir \VD 'are disposed to agree, however,
4-ibt"S'D':rncliffe, that this great principle is
,-".13"-41-11k0"ood, when applied to the case of a Bill
,t,Z'sing penalties on individual delinquents. There
.41-,ne analogy between raising money by a general
and inflicting a pecuniary punishment or] a spe-
arif,c offence. It is right, nevertheless, Iltat tbetom-
rmons should watch with the inmost caution and
ealousy every measure which has even the'apPeltr-
;ance of encroaching upon their privileges. While,
! therefore, we admit the correctrieen of the distinc-
t t,ert .so perspicuously stated Iby Lord Wharncliffe,
ewe are glad to see that '?lie prudent advice which
:suegested the expel-Yzncy of allowing the 14.:Asel
of Commons,t'a,!iaout a direct challen;e, to origi.,
1.-nare the •tWussion, was ultimately adopted, The
,other meiste, which would have
~r,l'ited such discus--
~si, a, was unnecessary, ar2.o. might have been offen-
• sive. We recollect, with what earneetness and
energy—nay, al'laost indignation, the late Speaker
of the nouFe. of Commons (then Mr. Abbott) re-
. j ccted the bitioptiOn of any alterations which the
Lords might have inserted in a Money Pill. He
fist, in portentous tones, announced the alarming
_fa( t. that such alterations had been made! He then,
‘•,,ith, a look and voice in which concern and resent-
„lwnt mcre equally perceptible, appealed to the
Ilanuse to repel this outrage on their priviler;es,
'His manner compelled the Members to partro„ his
,own sincerely-exPrerded alarm, and in the., midst of
,sytnpathising accl%matiot-rs, he ordered
Bill to to be V eked Ink of their
. sibs polluted
praenee nay. it
n•
•was some 5,
;rifieation, 'alter this awfr.„ ceremonyv
v.e:tift -the House ?Ad its Speaker reco-
ere' d
,AeSrz kktnal compoarAre. Though there was
5° " ,"?',‘lsittg'ire the mode of conducting this solemnity
Adr, !wade a by-stand er smile, it was impossible
Ayr 19:e.aspect the cor.scientious motives of the prin.
pal logent ; and though we think the principle may
b 0 'enforced with less pompous 'and formidable ac-
e" alpanimont s, it cannot be ch:mg to with too great
trvness and tenacity. The question, it should be
a Sad, has fr equently been ,
.aised on both branches
of 'iohe subsjec t, as will be seen by a reference to
/ !alga Thy proceed'.ngs In the Commons last
5. *Layer., various arAinteresting ; but we have not
r tam eV? nto allugl„ to them.--Timed.

to terribly pod specimen was afforded last night
eat grov.ring liberality of the age, and the freedom
ffuasir faJaticisert which characterises the Clergy of
Establishment, in a petition presented by Sir
Inglis, from twenty-two Clergymen of the
Deanery of Rochester against Protestant soldiers
f•being required to pay respect to Catholic ear-
l. monies. It teems the consciences of some military
men are mightily offended at their being called on,
in common with their brother soldiers, to salute in
. a military way religious processions in countries in
hich the religion differed from our own. These
geurionen must have very nice consciences indeed.
Cgrnsidering the urrear of business and the corn-
rfiotints of Ministers of inability to get on with it,
; the discussion of a question of this soft supplies an
admirable proof of the fitness of the House of
Commons for legisleing. Mr. Trant pledged him-
,self to bring forweied -11 'Motion, and sAid that "many
rificers most I.osedly coMplaitiletA of the ceremonies
required of them. 4,%!4.; the Right Hon. Secretary
(Sir George Murray) say what he Might, it could
root be concealed that there was great discontent in
she army on this subject." Sit George Rose, too,
4tlrgPled to this momentous subject. What a
tresSure to possess many officers who are filled with
great discontent on account of such a matter as this.
When consciences are so nice as to be proof against
compliance with orders in such a trifling affair as a
military salute on the day of a festival in the Ca-
tholic Church, what may not be expected from them
under great temptation ? We suppose psalm-sing-
ing commences now in the mess as soon as possible
after- the creature comforts are disposed of. The
other dioceses ought to support Rochester, and make
a stout stand against idolatry.—Morning chronicle.
• Mr. Brougham brought in his Bill last night for
the Establishment of local Jurisdictions. In the
first instance he confines it to the two extremities of
the kingdom, Kent, and Northumberland and Dur-
ham. The Bill was ordered to be read a second
time to-morrow; but Mr. Brougham said it was
most likely that it would not pass this Session.—
The plan is in some respects altered since it was
first communicated to the House.—Morn. Chron.
The Bill appointing a new Chancery Judge
formed last night the subject of discussion; but on
avount of the importance of the subject, and the
ltteness of the hour at which the discussion com-
menced, the debate was adjourned to Tuesday next.
The proposition for the adjournment drew from Sir
Robert Peel some fresh remarks on the great waste
of the time of the House, which had taken place
that evening, in the discussion of matters of compa-
ratively small importance, with respect to which,
however, every one had something to say. The
truth is, that the sort of business to which the Right
Honourable Gentleman objects is the only business
for which the House is fit. An assembly of six or
seven hundt'ed individuals is necessarily a mob, and
quite unfit for discussion and deliberation in the true
sense of the word. In the early period of the his-
tory of the House its inherent defect was not so
manifest, from the circumstance of the great body of
Members being unused to speak, and serving merely
a; a sort of audience to witness the performance of the
eV, actors on the scene. During the war of the Re-
voluaon,, the engrossing business was war and taxes,
and all questions of change of our laws and institu-
tions were postponed
.to a period of peace. The
habits of the war cont:nued for a short period after
but the latter waned up a new field in
the peso.;