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much obliged to you, but would rather not. The pri-
soner then said, I give you a warning, that if I
do meet Lieutenant Crowther I will make it an affair
of business. Air. Grady shortly afterwarela came in;
Ido not think that I repeated my request to the prisoner
afterwards. Colonel Conway and Captain Ilelshom then
left the room. In the discussion that took place Captain
flelsham conducted himself very rudely. There was no
arrangement made for the next day before Colonel Conway
and Captain lielsham left the room ; we could not egret,
to any thing. After they left, I and Mr. Grady entered
into conversation on the subject. I made proposals

Mr. Grady to terminate the business, which he approved
of. 1 do not know where Captain Ilelsham was
at this time. Mr. Grady left the room, am'
in a few minutes returned, when we then made
an arrangement that the parties should meet nex,
day at eleven o'clock at Napoleon's column. TI
next day I accompanied them to the spot at the time ap
pointed. I and Lieut. Crowther went together in a car-
riage. We had been on the ground about half an hour
before we stw Capt. Tlelsham and Mr. Grady ; they ar-
rived in a coach ; thew were other persons in the coach
with thAn. There were at least a dozen other persons on

horseback and foot. Mr. Grady and 1 eonverseti toeether.
Lieut. C►otvther less then at it distance. I_ s.iri win

have you brought all there people with yo❑ ? you had
better send them away. lie replied that Ctittain
eham wished them to be there, or that they wish,*
to be there them elves, I do not exactly recollec,
which. Mr. Grady and I cuntinued in conversation

during which time the prisoner came near to us. Mr.
Grady said that Captain Hclshan► would not agree to an►
firing except it was separate. Mr. Grady and myself ar-
ranged the manner in which the duel should be fought;
whiht we were making ther►! arrangements the prisoner
interfered. fie would be present to hear every thing that

passed between us; I repeatedly ,Itjected to it. I objected
in the hearing of Captain He!sham, he was then in the
ditch, and I observed it was a very unusual thing
for the principals to be present when the seconds were
loading tt.e pistols—it was contrary to all duelling usage.
He said that he "did not care a for the usage
he would see the pistols loaded himself." Mr. Grady
brought the pistols that were used. I and Mr. Grady
arranged the ground that the pat ties should fire, the dis-
tance was agreed to be twelve paces; Captain Helsham
was present at the time it was agreed in what manner
the parties should fire. It was agreed that the parties
should stand with their pistol arm down by their side,
and remain still until Mr. Grady should pronounce the
word, " Now, Gentlemen," when these words were pro-
nounced, the parties were to raise their arms and fire,
as near together as possible, and that no second
aim should take place. The ground had been pre-
viously measured by Mr. Grady, be took very
long strides, as much as he fairly could. When I objected
to the measure of Captain Helshain he wished to quarrel

with me. Lieutenant Crowther did not at all interfere in
the arrangements, but stood at a distance. I beckoned
Lieutmant Crowther to come up, and told him the condi.
flans of firing that had been agreed on. Captain llelsham
and Lieutenant Crowther were then placed opposite each
other at a distance, with their pistol artns down. Mr.
Grady said, loud enough for both to hear, " Now, gentle-
men." Lieutenant Crowther home& tidy dropped his arm
with rather a quick motion and fired ; he then lower his
arm. Captain Ilelsham did not fire for some time after-
wards. Not hearing the report of Captain Ilelshatn's
pistol immediately after Lieutenant Crowther's, I looked
about, and observed the Capt-tin's pistol pointed towards

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his opponent in a posture that if he had fired it must have
been a foul shot. I observed him lean his hand towards
the right, and gradually raise his arm. He did not fire
for a few seconds afterwards, until he thought, apparently,
that he had covered his man. He was looking along his
pistol at the time he tired.
Mr. GURNEY—Did it appear to he a deliberate aim?
Witness—lt did ;he fired, and Mr. Crowther fell. I
went up to him anti found a wound in his neck;
the ball had passed through it. Ile died of that wound
about twenty minutes afterwards. I knew Captain .141-
sham before this transaction. I have heard him say he was
an Irishman, and that be was horn at Kilkenny.
Cross-examined by Mr. ALLEY.-A remember Colonel
Conway before Mr. Grady arrived at Bolt's, requesting
me and Captain Helsham to retire to a private loom in the
lintel. This was before the prisoner refused to apo'ogise.
Captain Helsham said he was wiling to make any apology
however ample, providing any explanation could he given
of the charge against Lieutenant Crowther. I do not
recollect that. he said if an explanation was given
and an apoluky was not deemed sufficient, he would meet
Lieut. Crowther in the field, and stand his fire without

returning it. Colonel Conway did not say it was a pity
two young men should fight on such a trifling thing. Ile
did not go so far as to say in toy hearing that be would
not Puffer the prisoner to fight. Ile said that he did not
consider Captain Ileisham called upon to fight, as Mr.
Crowther was so unworthy a person that he could not
be put upon an equality with the Captain, and therefore
that he would not undertake for him to fight. I
did not say in answer that, if Le refused to fight, he
would be compelled to do so. I did not sity
that if he persisted in his refusal the usual means would be
resorted to, viz., posting and horsewhipping. I never
said anything to that effect. I never used the words
" posting or horsewhipping" upon any occasion. I did
say, that they must know very well that Mr. Crowther
could not submit to the insults that bad been heaped upon
him, and that if he (Captain II.) did not apologize, the
usual means must be resorted to to make him tight. I
cannot positively say, whether it was in consequence of
what I said that Captain Ilelsham agreed to fight. I did
not hear Mr. Grady ted the prisoner not to mind the in-
sult. Col. Conway propelled that I should fight Capt. 11.
I considered the proposal most absurd. Capt. Ilt'sham, I
am positive, said that if he did fight, it should be a mat-
ter of business. When Mr. Grady was measuring the
ground, I said he was giving too great a distance. Mr.
Grady replied, that as it was left to him to measure the
ground, be would do it after his own mind. The pistols
were detonating, with hair-triggers ; they might be used
with the hair-trigger or without, just as yon pleased.
The hair-trigger was not used. These pistols arc more
dangerous than the cotnmon pistol. The pistols brought
by Mr. Grady were common pistols. The one used by
Lieut. Crowther was with the hair-trigger. Mr. Grady
observed that if he was not accustomed to it, it would he
better to use a common pistol. Lieut. Crowther's pistol
did not go off until after 'tl4: words that had been agreed
to be used were given. lam quite sure that I never said
that such was the case. I should think there was five
seconds elapsed between the firing of Lieut. Crowther's
pistol and tke prisoner's. I was about twelve or fifteen
paces from Mr. Crowther at the time he fired.. It was
my business to see that there was no foul play between
the parties.
By Mr. ALLEY—As you stood so near the parties
at the time, why did you not interfere when
you saw the prisoner take aim, and prevent him
from firing? Witness—l slid not like to start any ob-
jection which could be tortured into a charge against my
friend.
Mr. Au.sv—That reason, as it appears to me, would
equally apply, provided the prisoner bad gone up to Lieut
Crowther, and deliberately shot him through the head

Witnes—That does no't strike me so at all; I think

quite different. The witness then underwent a cross-
examination as to the evidence he gave before the Judge at
Boulogne. The prisoner was nut then in custody. A
great number of English and military gentlemen were
living at Boulogne at the time. It could net have
been expected for the prisoner to be received in
company, and to hold up his head in the way he had done,
if he had refused to accept the challenge. I wrote several
letters to the newspapers for publication. I did that with
a view to my own justification its the part that I took
in the transaction. 1 recommended offering a reward in
the Hue and Cry for the apprehension of the prisoner.
Mr. Justice Barter---Perhaps, Mr. Malony, you are
net aware that a second in a duel is equally guilty with a
principal, in point of law....... Witness raid be had been ad-
mitted es a witness for the Crown, and he was actuated
only by a desire to do Ilia duty. Ile was moat anxious for
every part of his conduct to be strictly investigated.
Dir. Justice • BAYLEY —When you saw the prisoner
run hats eye aim% the barrel of the pistol, woe there time
for you to have made an objection. Witness—There was,
my Lord.
Mr. Justice IlAvtitv—And if you had objected, would
that have prevented the firing ? Witness—,No; Ido no
think it would, toy Lord.
By a Juror--What distance was you from Mr. Om

n•hen he gave the word that was null for the Aignal to file
Witness—lt is extremely difficult to asrettain the exact
distance in an open field, it might be 15 or 18 yards, or
perhaps not so much. I distinctly heard him give the
word before Lieutenant Crowther fired. I have no doubt
Mr. Grady was actuated by a wish that firmness should
be observed by both parties.
The Rev. James Crowther was then called, and was
under examination when we went to press.
The prisoner, as the trial proceeded, became much id-
fected•

Puma°, SICPT. 26.—The coronation of the Imperial
Prince could not takeplece to-day, on amount of the unfa-
vourable weather. It will be celebrated on the lust fine day.