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the House that not even one had heen presented on the
other side. Hear, hear.) It had been alleged that the
number of offencea against th Bank of England had dimi-
nished; but in order to establish this assertion it would be
necessary to prove a great deal more than had been made
out, for an apparent diminution could be very easily ac-
counted for by the late extinction of the 1/ notes. Neither
had the Solicitor. General forgotten to recommend that they
should suffer the punishment of death still to remain, seeing
that they could at present rejoice in a humane Secretary for
the Horne Department, who bore his faculties meekly, and
a Government which would never he likely to abuse the
power with which it was intrusted, or to enforce a rigo-
rous sentence to the uttermost. This argument, lie be-
lieved, had been also hinted by the Right Hon. Gentleman
opposite; but so egregious arid monstrous a doctrine it
had never been his fortune to hear in that House before,
although, since he had enjoyed a seat there,
i many extra-
vagant doctrines had been promulgated n his bearing.
What ! were they to be told that they should not swerve
from their opinions because they might have confidence in
the then existing Government? Were they to be seriously
told, that because at a given moment they had a moderate
and liberal Home Secretary, and a Government which
might discharge its functions with popularity, they should
therefore, forsooth, confine their legisl ttion to those acci-
dents of the hour, and so dismiss all concern for past, pre-
sent, and future? For that matter, God only knew.whe
ther the Administration now at the head of affairs would
be in existence for a long period or a short one, lie did
not pretend to divine ; but certain be was, that a more
preposterous proposition was never uttered, and he could
scarcely credit his ears when he heard the astute and saga-
cious Solicitor-General gravely addressing it to the House.
Another argument which had been adduced was, that the
narrow majority on a recent division ought to be sufficient
to give them an assurance that the punishment of death
would be un'requently ream ted to. In reference to this,
however, lie should make one of the gravest and most prac-
tical suggestions that had hitherto occurred to hini-,-one
which he wished very strongly to urge upon their attention.
They had, it appeared, pronounced an opinion by a very
narrow majority—merely 12 or 13, in a full House—in
favour of the punishment of death. He did not de-
sire to say any thing of an insidious nature with re-
spect to that division—lie did not intend to dwell on the
discrepancy between the professions that it was a party
question, that every one should be at liberty to vote ac-
cording to his judgment,—and the fact that all those who
held office, or were otherwise connected with Government,
or usually voted with the Treasury Bench, had all, with-
out an exception, come to the same opinion on the subject.
--(Hear, hear.)—No doubt they had all voted, taking a
sound, calm, disinterested view of a great constitutional
question of criminal jurisprudence ; no doubt they had
formed liberal and statesmanlike abstract opinions, which
no doubt, they gave in free will, out of the plenitude of
their wisdom, and with minds perfectly unbiassed by
prejudice or passion ; but so it was, they all, by a most
singular coincidence, voted the same way, and voted with
Government; yet, hotwithstanding, there was only a ma-
jority of 12.—( Hear, hear.)—And were they after this
to retain upon the penal code a punishment which had
been so branded by the House of Commons after an anxious
examination and deliberate discussion? If the law as it
still stood had little weight in public estimation before
then, in what light was it likely to be looked upon
henceforward ? If men's feelings rebelled against it
before, would not their opinions and prepossessions be
fur ever rooted and confirmed by such a division of the
House of Commons ?—(Hear.)—Would it not operate
practically on prosecutors, on witnesses, on jurors—aye,
and on judges themselves ? Not six months ago had a
Judge declared to him, in reference to the probable change
of die law as it respected this offence, that, sitting as a
Judge, he could not help revolting at the idea of leaving a
man for execution at a time when Parliament was en-
gaged in a deliberation, the result of_ which might be, that
his blood would be the hat which should ever be shed for
the crime of fotgety.—(Hear.)—With so many reasons to
induce them to abolish this punishment, and so little to
encourage them to retain it, he hoped that they would not
hesitate to do a service to humanity, and expunge it for
ever from their Statute-Riok.—(Cheers.)
Sir R. PEEL, in explanation, stated that the Members
o f the Committee of Bankers to whom the Honourable
and Learned Gentleman alluded, had never spoken to him
as a body, or in any other capacity than that of individuals
on their own ri sponsibility. He could assure the Ho-
nourable Member that he must have been misinformed if
he understood that either of the individuals in question had
contented to forego a prosecution from motives of principle.
Mr. BROUGHAM repeated that the fact which he
had mentioned was undeniable. The parties referred to
had detected the forger, had- ample 'means of bringing
home the charge in their power, and yet bad declined to
prosecute. He, of course, could not undertake to vouch
for their motives, further than as they might be inter-
preted by their actions.
The House then divided, when the numbers were-..
For the clause abolishing the punishment of
death for forgery l5l
Against it
Majority for the clause
Sir J. MACINTOSH then brought up the clause.
Sir R. PEEL rose and said that he bowed to the sense
of the majority of the House, although he must repeat that
his sentiments remained entirely unchanged, and he be-
lieved they would soon have reason to repent the de-
cision to which they had just come. As the Bill had
taken this turn, lie now relinquished to others the benefit
of his I tbours, and bequeathed the further progress of the
measure to the Right Hon. and Learned Member, who
had, he took it for granted, well weighed the terms. of his
clause, and given to it that deliberate consideri!hon which
he (Sir R. Peel) had not the power of bestowing upon it.
On the Right Hon and Learned Gentleman, then, de-
volved the responsibility of this amendment.—(Hear.)
The clause was then read a second time, and committed.
Sir J. MACINTOSH (after a short conference with
Sir R. Peel) then said that as he understood some verbal
amendments were intended to be offered, to reconcile the
clause with the contents of the Bill, he had no objection
that the further proceedings should stand over till to-mor-
row, on that account alone.
Sir R. PEEL maid that he should not take advantage of
any thing like a thin Howe to-morrow to rescind the vote
of this night.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned soon after Three o'clock.

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SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY.)

FROM LLOYD'S'

DEAL, JUNE 7.—Wind W.S.W.--Arrived from Lon-
don, the Margaret, Macintosh, for Miramichi ; Alellicant,
Cousins, for Jamaica; William, 'Woodward, for Quebec ;
Isabella, Melville, for Dominica; Sarah Maria, Pollinger,
for Quebec ; Stakely, Johnson, and Recovery, Chapman,
for India ; Marquis of Hastings, Short, for ditto ; Anne
and Mary, Evans, for Quebec ; Betsey and Sophia, Fo-
theriagham, for Timor; Reliance, Harrison, for Domi-
nica; and Asia, Parkyn, for Halifax. Several of'Ahe
outward-bound are getting underweigh.,. Arrived_ the
Elita, Dick, from Demerara.
PORTSMOUTH, JUNE 7.—Wind S.W. to N.—Off port,
the Hudson, Champlin, from New York.
FALMOUTH, JUNE 6.--Wind S.W. fresh.•—The
Diadem, Smith, from London to Ascension, and about
400 other vessels, are eff here, beating to the westward.
Arrived the Arab, Barker, from Gallipoli.
LIVERPOOL, JUNE 6.—Arrived the Nelson Wood,
Ball, and Charles Adam, Fayles, from New Orleans ;
Trent, Barstow, from Mobile ; Dumfries, Harvey, from
Baltimore; and Alexander, Miller, from Newfoundland.
Off port, the Elvira, Grace, from New Orleans.

The Rebecca, Smith, and the Coventry, Johnson, from
St. Petersburgh, have arrived in Yarmouth Roads. The
Margaret, Monart, from St. Vincent, has arrived in the
Clyde; and the Zephy
rus, Eden, from Memel, has arrived
at Topsham.
The Ann, Hurst, from Bilboa to London, was aban-
doned in the Bay of Biscay on the 26th ult. in a sinking
state, having sprung a leak.

Amongst the numerous visitors at the Na-
tional Repository this morning, we noticed his Grace the
Duke and the Duchess of ST. ALBAN'S and party. We
understand the Duchess directed some valuable orders to be
forwarded to several county manuficturers, who have spe-
cimens of their new productions exhibited in the Gallery.

Extract of a Letter from Porto Rico, dated
April 30 :—" On the 18th and 19th of this month we
experienced very heavy falls of rain, which occasioned a
large quantity of water to come down from the moun-
tains, which completely inundated the valleys. The sugar
plantations have suffered much, the canes having been de-
stroyed by the filling up or the cisterns, and a large quantity
of molasses and sugar washed away. So large a fall of
rain has not beep known for 15 years here."

LONDON.
TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 8, 1830.

HIS MAJESTY'S HEALTH.

The following is the Bulletin issued this day—
" Windsor Castle, June 8.

" The KING passed a very distressing day yesterday,
but his MAJESTY has had some refreshing sleep in the
night, and is this morning a little relieved.
(Signed) " HENRY HALFORD.
" MATTHEW J. TIERNEY."

A Cabinet Council was held at the Foreign-
Office this afternoon at three o'clock. The
Council was attended by all the Ministers.

Sir JAMES MACINTOSH'S Amendment to the
Forgery Bill, obtained last night the success
which we announced a few days since was likely
to attend it, and Ministers were left in a Mino-
rity of thirteen, on a question calculated to
add very little to their honour or reputation.
The punishment of death for Forgery is now at
an end, except in the single instance of wills, and
crimes against property will be dealt with in a
manner more consistent with the principles of
jurisprudence, aid more congenial to public
feeling than the barbarous practice of taking
away men's lives. A new sera may be said to
have commenced in our Criminal Law, when the
sayguinary punishments established in ignorant
and uncivilized times have been made to fall
prostrate before the increasing progress of true
legislative wisdom.
Mr. MACAULEY pointed out, with great
clearness, the absurdity of persisting in a law
which the state of the public feeling renders ab-
solutely impossible to carry into execution.. Pro-
secutors, Judges, and Juries, alike reluctant to
do violence to their consciences, have long done
their utmost to make the Forgery laws a dead
letter. They have been as impotent in their
operation, as erroneous in their principle, and
will go down to history as a monument of the
folly and wickedness of attempting to legislate
without reference to the principles of jurispru-
dence—to those laws of eternal justice, " whose
" seat is the bosom of Gon, whose voice the
" harmony or the world !"
The Quakers have, as Mr. BROUGII AM said,
added another laurel to their wreath of peaceful
glory. Their perseverance, their stedfastness of
purpose, and their unremitting exertions, in the
contest which has just ended, entitle them to the
lasting gratitude of all good men. To them the
victory is chiefly owing, and those who rejoice
in that victory should never be unmindful by
whose toils it has been won.

We have advices from Vera Cruz to the 17th
April. Hostilities had commenced between the
hostile parties, which, it was understood, had
terminated favourably for the party of BUSTA-
MENTE, Colonels VICTORIA and SALGADO
havirig been taken prisoners, and GUERRERO
himself being, it was said, closely pursued by
BRAVO. The trial of APULCHE and ZERE-
ZERO for conspiracy against the State was to
take place on the 26th April, by Court-martial,
and the Attorney-General, it was reported, in-
sisted upon his being banished for ten years.
In various parts of the Republic it appears,
however, by other letters, that the party of GUER-
RERO was making head, San Blas and Oajaca
had declared for him. Guadalaxara had fol-
lowed this example, and this had led to various
arrests in the capital.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.-(THIS DAY.)

COURT OF CHANCERY.

• • JUDGHENT.—CONST V. HARRIS.
The Loan CHANCELLOR, on taking his &at, proceeded
o give judgment upon the two petitions that were argued
before him some time ago. One object of which was,
that the Court would direct the sums of 10,0001. and
9,0001. (which had been paid into Court, and laid out in
the Three per Cents.) to be returned to the receiver, or to
Messrs. Willett, Rouble, and Forbes. His Lordship had
considered the subject very much at different times, and
in the. result it appeared to him, independently of what
had taken place with respect to the decree in the cause,
that there was no ground whatever to lead him to
direct those monies to be refunded. The state of things
appeared now to be, as regarded this question, directly the
same as they were when the two orders affecting the
sums in question were made, even by his Lordship him-
self, and the other by the late Lord Chancellor. The
next question was, whether such an alteration of circum-
stances had arisen out of the reversal of the Vice-Chan-
cellor's decree, as to induce the Court to direct the money
Ito be returned ? When his Lordship adverted to the na-
ture of the question that was litigated in this cause, the
complicated facts it involved, and the circumstance of the
whole being under an appeal to the House of Lords, he
could not think himself justified in altering the relative
situations of the parties, and their respective securities,
until the whole should be finally disposed of elsewhere.
Underiauch circumstances he could not order the return of
the money.
His LORDSHIP was next about to direct some in-
quiry to take place respecting a sum of 12001.,
another sum in respect of rent, and a third amount
advanced by Messrs. Willett, Forbes, and Kemble,
to make up a deficiency in 1828, when it was
intimated by the Counsel for those gentlemen, that
an arrangement had been made as to those sums,
which would prevent the necessity of their calling for the
Court's judgment.
Mr. JAMES observed those sums had been paid.:
His LORDSHIP intended to have directed an enquiry,
for the purpose of ascertaining what the receiver was
now out of pocket, adverting to the principle of the order
of 1825, but was glad to find there was no necessity for
it, as those matte's hail been settled, which it appeared to
him necessary should have been arranged for the purpose
of enabling the theatre to go on. The only remaining
question then was, whether the receiver's salary should
be 400/. a-year, or 4001. with the restitution of the 2501.
which Master Dowdeswell had reported he ought to be
paid, which hp should determine pn Saturday.