The Sun.
London, England, 1808-05-06 00:00:00

ASSEStipTAXES BILL.

. .
. • Mr, Fitxsip6gopii moved, that ~the Order .of the
Day he read, for talciog.,. into further consideration
aeport of the Cehmittee Of the ,sassed Taxei
Bill. • . • •

Mr. litnputent opposed the inotipn, as his ob.
jegtion to the ,Bill, was radical and total, and .was riot
e
c4nfind. to any of the provisions of it. He under-
ts4:od that .the sum to, be, produced .by, it, and to
accrue to the consolidated Fund, iikposequence,
was about 100,0001. Ti was well known both from
it?e Report of a former Committee of Finance, and
from other documents that form the.deniised Neredi,
tag revenues Of the crown, a Bum equal to this
might be, ;nil ought to be drawn, to accrue to the
Consolidated FUnd. . The Hon. Gentleinfin enlarged
upon.this subjea very considerabl), tO'tite,nding,that
he did not wish to unseytle these herecjitary, revenues,
hut merely that they should .be adjusted, in. which
ciwe, Le repeated, a sum might .be obtained, equi-
valent to she deficiency which the rejeaien of the
'Bill'bek,re the House would occasion. • .•

. ,
r. Rosa replied to the Fion.,Gentleman, and
alKwed, that if those 4eventtesbacl been applicdAs.
vmhed. for
~by. him, a deficiency..must, then be ,pf.par,.
Okci in the Ciyil List, which it wotild,t)ecomp nqr:
s,..stiry for Parliament to maltegooFj, In the amount
also, the }lon. Gentleman must be very much mil-.
fatt,n. Sp far from Slmquating to 100;9901. he
should
.be much surprised to find Ow derniitdile.
ieditary Reyepues, to which the l lon. Gtutleman,
'41.410(1, s'iponnty.l tc? boaoopl.
tipsictsetor held in his 11,11.1C1 LIIC
moved ror by the Lion. Gentleman, .by which it ap
geared, that slum the year 1797, they qrnoanted
only lq repeated what had been, said
by 541.. 4(,)-41,T,pspetting the defteielncy that the ap.
prryri4tion of .these revenues. to another purpose
occ4sigu in the Civil
Mr. 13tontn.ril (141p-ed.:that the 4.PPRput which
had been laid on the table of 'the 'l-Ibuse iii conser
hump of mu.lloll, was a very inverfeci
and complained •of the difficulty which he eIL.•
„per lei' cecl in obtaining, satisfailtory documents on this
tchiect.

7:trlie; a few worms from 'gr. Rose, the Ifouse
divided.

',Forre'aciing the Orders of the Day so
-Ngainot tt • ; '• ' • . . • • 24 •
Majjity . . . - • .1.41 40'
our,x--adroissino litfe the gat:4 w 6 found
thit the Bill ':;v1 bt!ek: r4--.conunitted.l

<i •

kit ,yorio,Thory disussioti tool: place
between .Sir NV. L..nt Porchister,Mr:Wilit-
treo)]\li.B,Alinnt, I. eh ti"celloy of tlytt.44.4olte—
Ponionbr M, M. Rose, r, 13i4441fr.
11,3skilisoi,; Nil.: Pere,' Mi age,
,N it ewist, Al.. Aiinlpi;tic,'aii4Ar3taphens;
em ,regera,l subject of Finimc'e3 of tke Coup-

try, it being asserted on the one side, that the Chaneee. Maytiootl). He had been, later than the Bon. a could excite` prejudice, to recollea his owo language
cellor of,the Exchequer had departed from the wed' Generel, within the last ten days, at Maynotath, and i and condua when he opposed 'the grant of a fair
praelice 4 Parliement in bringing forward Tax Bills . he eutild assure the House, that .unless the whole of I opportunity of enrolment to the Dissenters from the
without llavirtg laid before Parlianuept;any statement last year's grant should be voted, the buildings Oen Established Church,_wishing to fight the battles of
of the,Waye and Meake of the yea, as well J' that which former grants, had been expeng,lo would 7 tall, the country. The Hon. Gentleman would then,
the rise of the fends had been producedaltogether by There was no -lead on the roofs, an-Mtlie rain pene- perhaps, feel that he himself had throwh an harm-
the
,stagnation of trade, in consequence of which, traced through them. He declared himself to be a diment in the way of raising the great force which
capital, that could not be employed in speculations of a supporter of the Catholics, and having lived' on Li be recommended to the Chancellor of the Excite-
commercienature, was vested in the funds 3, whilst, terms of intimacy with the _ people...ofethe,to* ,rieleeriatelevys . Tho.Noblo_learel spokeein... favour of
on the other hand it was contendecl,. that the Chan- • of Ireland for several :fears past, he could ' eelare the larger grant. -
cellor of the Exchequer hait, in, laying a
.ground for for them also. The Hon. Gentleman then alluded Mr. LAING thought this a gloribus opportunity.
the Metier Bills before the HouSe, made a bill and to elle offer made by -order of Napoleon; t+ induce to unite 'all parties in Ireland at a very' small tre-
accurate .statement of the Supplies and Ways and lrish Students to go for education to Feancvs.fracrt . pence.
Means of the year, which he would have be ohjec- • Lisbon and Ireland, upon a promise of a restorlitiOn -Mr, FlEaaRIVr (of Kerry) condenined the curtail'
tion to recapitulate where he sboeld comp to state the of all the Irish houses, aid read an extrati, from, meiii of the grant as most itnpolitio.
terms of the loan' that was yet to be contra .ed for, the Answer of the Irish Catholic Bishops, stating their .:' 'Lord Poacnesisa .:remarked on the single state
and that the operation of withdrawing the four , gratitude, to the Government for the liberal support in which the Minister (Mr. Percival) stood, and on
millions of &elopes Bills, which had been funded, • of Maynooth, and denouncing suspension agaihsts the Hon. _Gentleman behind .(Mr. Wilberforce)
from the market, and the application of 80,000 on -any ftinetionaries, and exclUsion from preferment in - ' identifying himself with him by using the term LISA
each transfer day, by the Commissioners for the re- Ireland against any Ste-dents wheShOuld heetspetW 'and alluded to- the plewerful influence that was ex-
demption of the debt, had a considerable effect in offers of the Enemy of their Country. Would itis; 'erted to defeat the wishes of the people of Ireland.
causing the rise in the funds, at the same time that one say after that, that the Catholics were nef 'to' 'Re ridiCuled, the absurdity of hoping to make con-
the delay of the loan; coupled-with the saving in point be confided in ?If they were not to -be trtisted,•why -verts by promoting ignorance, when the reforwa-
of interest, by.the funding of the. Exchequer kilns, i not dismiss them from the Army sad Navy ? Why Lion bad established itself by enlightenin .
would give to the public an advantage:el nearly half allow theneto vote at. EleCtions ? Why -had Lord• , Mi. PONSONBY said, surely the Right Hon. Gen"
a million upon the financial: operations of the year. Westmoreland come down to the Irish Parliament tleman opposite (the Chancellor of the Exchequer),
After some .further observations, not immediately and said, that nothing was to be granted to them, could never be accused of making use of religion for
applying to the subjeet, the. measure passed through and why had he in six. weeks after said-, that they party purposes. He had never set up or propagate"
the Committee, and the House having resumed, the were the best SubjeCts in .the realm, and that they a crY of No PoPery, never asserted that the Church
Report was-ordered to be received to-nuorrew. should get the elective franchise and other privileges 1- ' was in dangerif any relief should be granted to the
• ' REPORT OF SUPPIA!.. .... _ , Why had the Duke of Portland, the present Prime 'Catholics: Let every one else follow the example
Nlr.WitmuroN brought up the Report of the Corn
.Minister, said the same ? Ilia this was not. the ael of 'of so high an atithority, and be above making use
mittee of Supply, relative to the, Gerinteef4'926o; Ministers. He was sorry to be obliged to allude to religion for party purposes, particularly after the re-
for the Roman Catholic College ofelgaynooth ; and the' conehla of any of the Royal Family. But, how. 'commendation of the Hon. 'Gentleman (Mr. Wil•
on the question that the Resolution bealgreed to, . ever, it was rutnottred that even the Ministers • !miff:ice), eTho was weepped- round with heneva•
Sir Joists.l\l2vvortr.shewed from theAet of the were disposed to agree to' the grant, till they went lence like a Cloak, and wilose soul. was charity itself
Irish Parliament of t 795, that the sum 04,4'8,000. to St. James's Palace, and were closetted for several in the interpretation of all, opinions but those thin
had been granted for the support oisthis CAilege, in hours with a Royal
,Dnke, after which they ree came from that side of the House. It Was said, the
order to prove that it .was_ not ethen mean to ,be : sorted to the present redeetion. That Royal Duke,' - friends of the Catholics should mitigate the resent•
left to the resatirces of the ,Catholics for support, lie . was the Chancellor of the University
_Of
.Dubllnei meth, and bold it generous treatment, when thit
contended that the reduCtiort ofethe Graittof last year he was Chancellor of a Protestant Sehool,, and, enlightened. man; the bountiful Chancellor of ti",
was calculated to irritate the great body of ' the Ca. might wish to put down the education of the Catho- Exchequer, granted 90001. but; expressed his belie'
tholics, and particularly to _alienate the Priests, lics; but no man who knew or valued Ireland as' he that the Church would be ruined by granting
whose influence had been so much talked of, The did himself, could countenance such a projeet. I.ln- li,oool. ' Was it to be •expected that the friends of
question now was, whether the should be edu- , less they aLeed liberally by the Catholics, they would the Catholics should recommend to them to take
Cato(' or uneducated,. for. Priests would. be in all run the hazard of losing Ireland.... kindly theobloqut and ignoMiny cast on them by
their opponents ? Was it to be expected .-
eventsiound„ The reason' why..the Roman Ca- Mr. C. W. WYNNX lamented the secret infin-
tholic Nobility and Gentry did not educate their sons , ence by .which the measures of the Government.. Catholics would be attached by health and eete4,
for the Priesthood,•,was,•'.beeause it atibrded them were defeeted, and 'the interests of the co.uotr)e. and was le not known that it was b liberality pea
neither prospeCts of honour or emolument. When sacrificed. Even the -Cabinet could not be agteett. .kindlieattrient that ittachmentaeeS created? . ,
he looked to the situation of the, Empire and of. . upon this reduelion. Neither the Duke of' Port- Mr. Seeettes defended Mr. Wilberforce gag":
Europe, when- he 'considered the exclueion,of the land,' Lord Camden, a:Right ~Hon. Secretary, not the censures of me. Ponsorthy, and maintained dr'',
Catholics froth education till. the Continent by the then in his place, nor a Noble• Lord, high in his Ma- it was preposterous to represent the 'education 01
Revolution' in Lisbon, when he_ looked to the recent jesty'S Councils, who was also• • absent; couldittiie Priests for a sett' dissenting • from the establislre
of raj
1-
of individuals who Itatl di?tinguished ' concurred in this proceeding. -If any one duty'was Church as necessary to the true principlea
themselves by heaping obloquy en . the Catholics, more imperious than another upon - that llouse, 4 gious tolerption. If his Honourable Friend, ; for re:
and who wereefitteelbs, other Institutions than for was that of providing for .the education of theigeex _fusing to extend the grant to what he deetned a
that the
the Councils of his Majesty, he did not think thisa et body of his, Majesty's SubjeCts in Ireland. litouih • needless degree fur that purpose, desetied to be
it-
time for any reduCtion ,of
.the Grant, and therefore no friend to his Majesty's present Government; :he reigned of persecution and bigotry, we must go ler'
moved that the:Report be re-committed. .. . , still felt regret, that whoever or whatever the Metn- ther than educating the Catholic: Priesthood to re'
...
Sir AtereneWELl.eaLeY said, that the 111.Atieto,on.f. bets of an Administration May be they should lie deem oureelves from that reproach; we must 4:alt.'
• Bart': who had just reed the pteamble'of the _ looked upon as enemies. to ;.--the instruction of the e-ate Clergy of the Protestant Dissenters of ever'',
people. --- denomination,
.of the Methodists, • for instance, awe.
Parliament, by which Maynooth College was este-
The Cneeicaiteoe of the' EXCHUQUER disclaimed, of the Moravians—a most useful and amiable'sed°'
bliihed, as an which' to to What:had fin from him
the last thee this sitiejed'wes under diseusifon, bad odious
the principle of intolerance, . The CathOlics.. Christians, hilt 'certainly not possessing, as the
were more than tolerated.
- . Ihe Hon. Gentlemen
totally ibistnierstOodehirn: - It was the MemoriaF -.. tholics otlreland were said by their advocates to tic'S
presented by the Catholics, for leave to establish 'the Oppoe must their sit therefore test arguments on the very greet eptileece ; ney, we might be accused al
•
Collegeito which he had alluded; and in that they grounde Of policy and equity,rather than on these of to- , intoleeince ee.hi to the establiihed Church, 6441!
did notseek for pecuniary assi'sfance—they merely legation; and on thosegrounds he may have different do not educate its Ministers at the public exile .t
views of the question from theirs. The
artplied for the King's Licence to found this College. other side.; shewint
When he last. had the honour of addressing the . of the Catholics which led to' the establishment at most of the Speakers.
ir:)1
theles the measure ie goer
which . .Mernorial: Mr. Stephen proceeded to reply to the argument° °}'
Hoese upon this subject, he had stated the reason Maynooth .claimed,no pecuniary 'aid: The .Citho- that on their °w"-' Pr
lies promised to defray the whole expence them-
whieh induced him- to think that the number .of
Students educated in the College of Maynooth, to- selves, and ,though the Government and Parliament that of concilieting the Catholic. _
.c.
- ct good will to that hod)'
,: at AI d
gether with those educated in the private Senna gave them 80001. in aid Of the objeet, diativiiPtio rate perk
' ro oetion at
teeries in Ireland, were sufficient to supply the Ca.../ reason that the country should be subjeFt ro-"tbirrn dared ne..theewartnest terms, that. !la P
aPi,i
which
°cie of Ireland, fie
lion .Was, wholly toad hate to the objet in vievh
tholic Priesthood of Ireland.. But it had been said' stantly increasing demands, for a purpose of.which antmanswes sincere-and earnest in the t la_
~111,:lar
that he had.not taken suffinient, pains to ascertain the , there was no precedent in any age or countryeethat he professed, he'. respected and .esteemed
_l,_i,
nntriber of Roman Catholic Priests necessary for the of, educating at.the public expence the Priesthood.. 4
supply of the different parishes in Ireland. He had a religion differing widely from the es 61 h d ta-.ls..e_Ait.,,-- (rating Clergymeu4era Protestant ustablishinetec.d:'.l,i
but a sincere Catlzielic world abhor the idea oift, a.ne
applied for information to. the persons who were He thought it as much as reasonably could_tse,a e, -e he ter., oueesseseeel„ an the sacra
,pripciple oilstig',.:,
in at opinion the most likely to be acquainted with to educate 2.56 persona at the public' expellee, w'o the question .yi:re.,opeu, to ~voting , any t
lee a
this subjea,.and he had communicated to the House with i5O educated' in a private manner, were ail the educating the Catholic Cleigy '; , beuan4c i_eus ,ul.,
the result of his inquiries. But in what manner he abundant supply fur Catholic, MinisteY,- 4esteeda ' -not ,think- the Otinetions betwen them and
rather,
could have procured a regular official return upon this opportunity to deny all knowledge-of any inter-., religious. point et vitt. iil6iticiztit, ' 1,10 would r,,,,
this' eubjeet, he did not know.' In the College of position. of a High Personage to influencethe-ceeft. .confer favours of ~.2eatcr v.:Le on the Irish ~,,1_1.,'..',„
Maynooth, and in the private Seminaries, there duet of his Majesty's Ministers upon this queetio
~ liCee dud :ep'egt,e“ae, ereehee melt :110 their L;ic'6,l,
were 361 Students educated', and allowing them an and declared,' on the faith and honour of a Man, hat than, into any evehatever ler t,..'uc,itilig ii":l':,.
n„ii,
average education of seven years, there there would be a firm belief that no such itittaence had been exercEised., the church ; teaV,as teta etlehtien was not eow rt„sr
supply offifty annually, which he conceived would in any quarter. He looked upon the report ;0444 . he must coligke4lienseit with adopting tee ea'''.
be sufficient to keep up the number of two effete as a clamour raised to prejudice in the public grant, and Wityfiul...!,iil•• au inereeee We' it:ll,lldd u6e3
mind the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers •tetftlie -• shawn-to be superfluous.
thousand Priests, which were necessary to doe rallig
question before the House. ... . i .. . Mr. Gaae.rets had iorewen the danger o. •-
the duty of the different parishes in Ireland..-- 4
The Right -Honourable Baronet lied ' stated, that : - • Lord . Isle bike Perri did net Wonder that till into a religious oisputei Irvin the rt;tusit. ot the
,wi'u)l!:
these private Seminaries in Ireland -Were Merely . : •
Right Lord
Getitlermin who epoke last, sit7eleil littin wanted for thexurpose of edueerene the G.,111:10
elementary. schools, ancisnot fit for the education of, of he waVand,unsupported by. any of his conceives, 44Pqrit,Y,..4h541!'t • "4 td.Ar'i.YTv i''.l;il'4'll`t wit
Priests; but the information he had received upon : was relit apt to, offerIII:et11311 woo spo,kic. .4,,
lad' indde On. the 'reli4ion'' 61 oneetiith ofhis .a.,)iu'ri
liiiiiiell to the notice' ofthe' •Feueral attack the Er6p.,Ge 1
thiii stihjeet was very different, for he understood House; but was glad that the Bight fien;c:Gitrulti:.-
Ilitit persons' educated en those seminaries' were ,con- man was .at. length compelled to state-his reasons, tX;tl..,AlktiiectC ~TO. tell tile, Cetbolics their '''''lll'i ir
was idoletrous, would give pain • to their, bu.es
tinually taken out to act as Priests. If then there He was not -,surprised that the Right Hon. Getitieneette
was a sufficient supply of Priests. from the College was so iedignant at the 'iniptitation of secret halo- 'woulfrdo injury to England, .I i the-RepresOttPthe
and these Seminaries,. he thought it wouldbe-untie ence, When. it %Yea' so well known that-the pre6ent
religion of those who taught forehe detente! a
„,,e
of tie Pedple sat ie that Assetni4 fctiitigtiLitile
t'llo
cessary to snake the proposed-augmentation. , It,had; Administration was termed oh principles particularly'*
Country itt the army and navy, thee. Assembly -li.
been said,- {that there; could be pu possible danger repugnant to that sonsof itifluence. The proceed-.
from increasing the establishment. of this Collegee; lugs with-recite& to a 'it(tifitateasure (the • &Version theologically mad, anA politicallyruined.. The 't",,i.
mony of religious disputes, and the Mutual peo. te,
because it was completely under the controul of .:(40e, 1341) were fully illosttettieelerde: his Point: The ab-'
vernment. Upon this • subjeet he begged to say a , knee of the Right Hon,,Gett eman's.'colleagues on, tign of sects, arose, nut from the ditfereoc? °sec.
few words. It .was. : true that the approbation of_ I the present occasion : was e ...ably owing to a sort nets, but 'from .tlit ' inflamed passiOtiS Of tl.l`)
si i
Government was ilecessary for the President of this- I 9fornpreAri*e which th 4 n• es 4,o,dience to such' tarists.--Mr.,. GRATTAN. .ripPlie Alt_ length) again. to
InstitUtion,sinci for enaaing of bye laws ;it was also ! ' inflnenctsiilori.yet decidecil)t,resist titiinterpoSititin; system which would drive the Catholics to re!A.'ios
true that:Several of the great officers of State were., The money which . Ncas the subjetttaaff the present. foreiln educationewhich must lead. to. eenneliiit
visitorsolthis College; but he would state one shore debate, ' waseleinnount little to give,' Not was every injurious to England. There could be no doubtiiish.
fade:which would enable thee. House to f'orm'a judges: ' ding to iefese. It was not a fourth pert of what; Buonaparte invited them to their former or°
ment of the degree of controol- which, thetGovern.'e i. within, the last' twenty-four hours, had been voted meats at Paris with views hostile to Britain' ' olio
meat possessed over ' the proceedings pf this ,Semi. 1 fete,e'Meee Ottple.prosion for the scotch Judges, a Doetor DOIGENA.,N read the oath of the °steno
nary. In, the course of last .year, a student was ex., 1 provishinevery.proper .where service had been acts, Priests,' in order to strew that they paid an obei,r)„,4
}Tiled fromethisecollege,t4: some offence, but aft. it i' tae' give aealaitu to it, but inshis tepittion, not wpm-- to the Pope, which eves inconsistent with tbe 'I, ,7,0
was conceived thee this expulsiep was not
„sanCtiona e Per •whereriAke'lladteettittaerihee: The print** suPremacy.'. The provieions for the education oro
fey
ed by' the: Laws of the institution, an appeal was , e4the edacation..ofike Catholic Clergyeletd recZieeU established Clergy 'fell short of thern'proposed ;a
made to the visitors, with a request. hat they would i the,counten4nce of the nominal head of the present granted for the:Piiest*.at .Miaynoetli. ThCre `e'er
fake the subjeetinto,consideretion. They did, and 1 Administration, who,. if he preeerved a shred !of .the University of Dublin thirty poor .scholars' f lee
upon a View of.the'case, they advised a compromise, ' any principle, was bound to support;it glow._ It bee , get but a dinner once a day, and 72 sOb°l3rs,°•,joS,
rn
and, recommended that the young man should be: re- also received the countentinceetif Lord Westmorland onsrthat get. a dinner once sedeyealiid
admitted into the Society. Fie w Cite
as accordingly.re. and Lord den; tot; MeitttiOri of the Pty lel
ie. fit, It‘ no leogiii;,
eetleLeihed the Catholics.as bad sulejeas, and -
edmittedebut he was told that he should never bead. Cabinet, When in the situatiou of Lords Lieutsitatie Itl9tOm. le' State. -
.- - : ,f9gch
mitted to Priest's Orders! This was the degree Of of Irelands •• 'lt. het been sanCtiened 'by the reseledd € "L'•l9Nir ihititkilsi to Ordk;ohjecledto the use v's
. lc,
cuutroul which Government ,possessed., r-fe. wpilld. ~ leord, Cornwallis,-the reePedeti'4l4. r fi: d'k - 'd danguagefaill.speaking or 4,000,000 of his Afii./L
.....
not take up more of the lime of the House,' but the late Got/611)(44 Ireland. ' . ',.:.'41vt..-:,..', N;. snbit'6"?ttitl '4'" Ic'*" ' of thintong the number. of Students educated for. the Mr. Wasittootica leit'grearpatti and delicacy in
Priesthood in Ireland shffieient, l AB should' vote.. for opposing the grant 'nf the larger:birn
.; but te'tltutight :. 1.11...• Sex 1K ER declared Heat the t'reedoM
did not preefuile stilh:liiiignage. - - s
anent
the sum proposed by his Right ion. 'Friend (Mr. it- wrong to educate at. the exPerice of the Stator*, 1.1,,,:, .1)940r P L.; It)SN AN • repeated his former sea ete.
. ...
Foster). .1,. ,• , i superabundant. Catholic Priesthood, .whoe. ter vi t beitiet=ared, '•.
ooth, h
colonel iyIAT44,4, eepreeeed his astenishment, that of other' employinent -tti Idb'lb- /
employment,' would e constantly 3 914 14 .1
i draw-the putilic,aid ale ether front Maya
the Hon: cee'nerel',who came forward' as Minister for to make consents from the established religion.4lf i would sec.opcLthe tpotiou. . t , prig
Irelands 'should be. morel; ignorant of its situation deprecated all language tending to excite prejt4ecs 1. e Mr. •I'V:S'•°°. :tbet ,if ,any one would move 10 °' e
e 5
than an Bungle individual like himself. He Qs' ujd and'd;ssention. -.' "'"' : - . . ,;', : : Couneilp)rs on the accession they had, ast. "rer 00.0 f
tell the 1-ion;iMernber; that.the private seminaries 1.,(;111 411014 wished the Hen. Genthun
~
~.
~
....,
t.rxe , . ipOle I.,iiii vOtT, he deprecated, . every thing that i - the
an e tie ' lo'hiteeeeeo-theii Right Hen: 80dy,..i0 the PeTr,:bidg
were only prepaiseori schools for the Coil - efLearned
oecrneiti
ew congratulated
o .
,s?
v;i his IV
last
j.es ts.' si:,
Iv:

. .
could tend so mucbikinpres'sli4 Catholics with an
idea of the respects paid to their feelings as the mak-
ing of 'that appointment at the.same time that the.
grant in iVfaynomli was curtailed. He cited the
o..,:ebec• Mt to prove that a provision had before
Len "Made by a British Legislature ,or ttle`edtica-
tion of Catholic Clergy. The same AA' contained
a provision for the education of Niotestait
also. ;4,..-. 1:',...ti',4 t_l4..fa 4: :)il I , i ,:t4;: ' •
Mr. Baaiiiii could' not let the totiolflaSs
without. expressing his abhorrence a tfM!Otieed;
fik
dangerous, false, and abominable oinlie ,a (yeic.
t
L p
trines expressed by the Hon. Gentleman v;
,o spoke
last but one. Such language could have no ten-
dencv but to separate the United Kingdoms; and to'
deluge them in blood. ' ' • '
Mr—TIERNEY wished siireajy to ask ttiti Rigid
Hon. Gentleman opposite ' Whether tilfli4meci.
Gentleman who had been antis:led to wpil spf Au!
Privy Council 'of Ireland, or wain about( to.be ?,
The CIIANCELLOR :Of the EXCHEQUER did not
believe-the order to that effe6lhad gone over.
Mr. TIERNEY was sure the Right lien, Gentle-
man would not quibble'with him on this point. We
know the Right Hon. or Hon. Gentleman could not
be a Privy Councillor till he was sworn in ; but the'
question was whether he could be. It was.notbing
to say the order was not gone ;-'.did the Wght•Hon.
Gentleman believe it would go ?
'Sir A. WELLESLEY had no hesitation to say, that '
the Lord Lieutenant had recommended that the
Learned Gentleman should be made a Member of
the Privy Council, and the reason of 1114 recom- :
metidation was, that the Learned, GTntleman's pre-
senee was obsoletely uecessary fin. the dispateh of the
Ecclesiastical Affairs, which were so considerable a
fart of the business of the Privy Council. ' • '. .
The House then divided on the qnestion, that the
Ite:iolution bx read a. second timee .Ayes 106—
Noes Bg.

On the question that the Resolution be finally,
agreed to, being put,
Mr.-TIERNEY moved, that it be postponed to a
ftiture day, in order that 'all the C•abinet Ministers
might be ?resent numbers upon this wete,
For Mr. Tierners motion ' . .8i •
Against it . . . , . . . Itz

'The other Orders were postponed; andthe House
adjoUrned at three o'clock this morning.

MAILS.
Gottenburgh, a Waterford. Dus-4: Gotten-
burgh. a Dublin, 2 Waterford.

PRICE W STOCKS—
THIS DAY AT TWELVE COCLOCK.
Consols . . ) Reduced Ann. . 67 66 1

THE SUN.

SOLYM QUI& IJICIRI SALOUM AUDIAT ?

L 0 .2V D 0 IV ,
FIUDAY, ?41,11* 6, 1808.

This Morning a Gottenbingb Alailatrived, which
brought the foltowing.lntelligence:
GOTTENDIYHGV, APAIL'27.--.A brisk cannonad.
ing wa, distineily heard held the whole of the night
of Monday last, which proves to have, been an at-
tack made by the English Sloop 'Daphne, and two
others, upon the Harbour of Flaitrand, in JUilant,
Out of which they cut ten 'Vessels laden with corn.
and provisions, destined for Norway, and this after-
noon arrived with their Prizes here.
ARRIL-24.—Our accounts from Norway today
inform us that the Swedish army has advanCed as
'far as Kongvinger, which, is within ten swedish) or •
seventy English miles, of Christiania, and that they
•
have possessed themselves, by storm, Of two essen.-:,
tial forts in that neighbourhood, in which they took,
4500 'prisoners,, with very little loss on their
Some 'travellers have.'arriyed- within these titv
days from Hamhurgh, ,who bring news down to
the 15th instapt. They' say -that two thousand
French' troops have entered Altotia, and thqt
are in full possession, of Holstein, but that none of
them have yet-oe.n „teem to Zealand. A report Pre-.
wiled when,-theqravellers left the other side, that a
great. part, of the Danish . Flotilla :and Transports
had ti;t.en. destroyed by the Lngiioh Ships in .the
Belts; but of this we rather doubt, as no o:iicial
accounts have yet reached us.