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PI LUTS

Lord TEMPLE rose, in pursuance of his notice,
to move for leave to • bring in a Bill Tor the Regtila
tion of the Pilots of :he United Kingdom: This
was a most important business, as the lives and pro-
perty of many were concerned. He did not mean
to press the Bill through this His object
to have it printed merely, when it
,might lie
Over till next Session. •

Alderman PRIiVSEP regretted that 'many- Mem-
bers of this Howse were absent who could have given
ample testimony to the importance of, this measure.
lie, however, had to thank the Noble ',Ord for
he proposed to dos He left it to him to con-
sider whether it would not be proper to give power
to the 'trinity Board, or some other competent Board,_
not only to prevent the Pilots beino- paid when they
as ted improperly, but also to punish them. When
:cssels were in distress, .it very often happened that
they' became exorbitant in their demands ; and some,
times "the opportunity of saving many a valuable
Cargo, and many. valuable lives, was' lost by the
avarice and obstinacy of these people.
After a few words from Lord TEMPLE, leave was
given.

On the Motion of Lord HENRY PETTY, the Re-.
ports made by certain Commissioners appointed un-
der an Aa of the sth of the King, relative to the
Fees, in Public Offices, and other mattera,- were or-
dered to be printed.

LORI) NELSON's ANNUITY

• Lord HENRY PETTY moved, that Nelson's An-
nuity Bill should bt.: committed. ~

Colonel WOOD observed, that in the present State
of the Country, he thought it his duty to oppose every
measure which tended to create an 'unnecessary ex-
pence. When he considered that between 3 and
400,0001. had already been voted fOr the addition to
the pay of the Army ;' when be considered that nearly
an equal sum had been voted for the Navy; and when
• he considered that expence was dailyaccumulating on
pkpence—he could not sit in that House and give his
sandlot) to any grant of the Public Money; except
where the absolute necessity was proved. He allowed
that a proviilon for ,the family of Lord Nelson was a
necessary thing, but he thought that 5001. per an-
num .was fully sufficient. If the gallant Lord had been
alive, Or had left children, he would not have been
averse to the most ample provision that was proposed.
But this was only for al-elation, and surely 50001.
year was enough, in the mean time, till the Public Debt
was reduced. He suggested whether it would not be
better to grant only 50001. till the'debt was reduced to
million, and then a larger sum might be given. Ho
then desired that the Clerk might read from the Jour-
' pals the proceedings relative to thd Duke of Marlbo-
rough. (The proceedings of the loth and 18th Dec.
1702, weredthen read, from which it appeared that the
Cc menons remonstrated with the Queen for proposing
so large an annuity as 50001.) i'he Queen, continued.
Col,Wood,
.certainly gave him 50091, a year, but that
wasionly during E.4-6‘Vn life, and' this WII3 for Earl
Nelson and his heirs male, It was true the \alue of
money was higher in the time of Queen Anne, but
then it was to be considered that there was at that
time scarceli any national debt, ir there was any at
Qin- debt now was above 50Q millions. •Ifit4er
such circumstances, be.thought 50001. per annum a.,
most _ample -provision,. and. fie'. Would oppose the
granting of any tore till the debt was reduced, as he
had above stated.

The SPEAKER observed, that.the Hon. Gentle-•
object could only be properly attained in the
Conpnittee. He then left the Chair..
Upon the Hduse resolving info the Committee, ..
Air. ROSE, in reply to the statements of the
Hon. Colopel.(Wood,), observed, that the grant now
propOsed bore no proportion to the allowances made'
to the Duke of MarlixxioUgh. Fors -independently
of 50001 a-year settled upon that illustrious person;
no lesi than seven Manors were granted to him by
the Crown. The - Palace of Blenheim Was also
bUilt, for him at the ipblic expenc'e. . Queen Winne
bad this building :commenced, but the-Tory Admi-
nistration, towards the close of her reign, thought
prpper, most unworthily; to pr#Vent its proceeding.
Upon the accession, however, of George I. 4g,001.-
which were found remaining due to. the, work:
znen ,employed. (iring the lormer Reign, WQIC
puizirant to an Ao of Kirilawelit, and 'the

building was proceeded upon to its cOmPletion.r—
The Right lion. Gentleman- added, that be under-
stood from the Executors of .Sarah, Dutchess of
Marlborough, that no less than 500,0,001. were laid
out from the public purse for the buildings at:Blen-
heim. But was\ the Hon. Colonel,, when be -made
the comparison alluded to, iware of the amount of
the revenue posseSsed by the Duke of Marlbordtigh,
at the time the penslob was granted him ?. His Grace
then had fron,the salaries and perquisites of vari-
ous offices no less than 40,0001. a-year. , Could
it -then be -pretended that there was • any paral-
lel between the.. case of the Duke of Marlborough
and:that of Loid Nelson—the One had an immense
fortune which devOlved upon his family, while,
fortunately; the other was in very different circum-
stances. The 'splendid services of Lord Nelson
were not produ6tive to him of pecuniary profits—
No; for of prize-money his receipts were insignifi-.
cant. His proportidn'of prize-money even 'at the
splendid battle of the. Nile was-not more than three
thousand pounds, and this, from particUlat circum-
stances, was less than the sum which fell to the lot
of, many of his Captains. Indeed, the fortune of
this distinguished Hero was much less than could
at all he supposed by one unacquainted with the
fait. For he. could say, and it was now no breach
of confidence to state it—that in the course of
some communications which
he had with Lord
Nelson the very day -before he last sailed from
'England, the Noble Lord told him that all the pro-
perty he had in the world did not exceed at the,.'ut-
most fifteen thousand pounds, and that his debts
nearly amounted to that sum. When one then
considered the nature of the Noble Lord's services
to this Country, which, withoUt Meaning to depre-
"ciate the merit of any Officer, he had no heSita-
tion in saying, were far greater than those of any
other Ofricerthe country bad ever known, great"
even as the services of the Duke of Marlborotigh
were—Having that impression upon his mind, an
impression indeed- which was, as it ought t(i
universally prevalent, the Right Hon.r Gent. was
surprised at the opposition made to a measure which .
proposed to grant merely sufficient to. •suppott the
rank, dignity, 'and name, of this illustrious man.
The Right Honourable Gentleman repeated, that if
the-Committee would compare the sums allowed to
the Duke -of Marlborough with that Under con,
sideration, he was sure that all objeolions must dis-
appear;

- Mr. FRANCIS repeated his obje&ion to this
proposition,' and maintained that there was this,
material difference between the case of the Duke
of Marlborough and 'the,preent, namely, that the
Duke of Attribprough was alive, and bad children..
to inherit the public grant—while in this case the
proposition was to grant 120,0001. of the public
money to the collateral branthes of the Noble Earl's
family.

Colonel Woop and Mr. Rost mutually •ex.
plained„

HILEY ADDINGTON thought it unne-
cessary to say any thing as to the merits of Lord
Nelson, whose charaaer it would be as difficult to
exult by panegyric as to depreciate by calumny.—
But with respect to the measure before the Com-
mittee, be observed, that it conveyed a'proposition
of reward .for services of an unparalelled-nature, far
I short indeei:of that which was granted to the puke
of Miaborough.
Mr.' WILBERFORCE remarked, that if )(31001
a-year was, in the days of the Duke of IViaribo-
rough, deemed necessary to support' the dignity Of
a Duke, Thai sum now, from thercoMparative value
of money, was scarcely adequate. to uphold the
rank. of aWEarl. But he viewed this grant altoge-
ther -not so_ much as a provision for the 'family of
Lord Nelson, as a pledge of nafional liberality, held
out to our Navy'to encourage an imitation of that
Hero's example.
Lord HENRY PETTY conceived that if any're-•
ference were had to the case of the Duke of Marl-
' borough. inorder to apply that case to the measure
before the Committee, such. application coul,d Only
serve to suggest a considerable augmentation of the
proposed grant. • The expence of building Blenheim
alone, it appeared, exceeded the amount of the pro-
. vision contained in this Bill. But independently of
this expence, and
.the other sums alluded to by the
Right Honourable Gentleman on the other side
(Mr. Rose), it vas to be recolleaed that the Family
of the Duke of Marlborough still enjoyed a revenue
I of .50001. froth the Post Office, which was originally'
granted in consideration .of the services of that dis-
tinguished Officer.- Of the sum which this, Bill
proposed to allow, the Noble Lord observed, that
20,0001, were to be divided between the two sisters
of Lord Nelson, who were, he was sorry to, say, in
rather limited circumstances, but who were the pe:-
culiar ohje&s of the Hero's care and atreaion, and
both of whom he bequeathed to his country.tor,,that
provision which it was not in his own power to
leave them, Could that Country, then, which he
so • highly served, hesitate to execute his' wishes ?
After the deduction of the 20,0001. it was 'intended,
to apply the remainder of the,suna mentioned in the
Bill to erea a Solidlnonument, Wbich should 'trans-'
• mit to posterity the fame of Nelson, and the services
which lie rendered, to his country. With regard to
the allusions 'which bad been made to economy, he,
thought: therri incpplicahle in this instappe--,*ono-
my,. generally speaking, should meet ,with his
warmest suppor+, ; but the economy of reward 1;47
great public services, he should ev,er deprecate, par-
tcularly, at a period like, the present, .when it was.
necessary to keep up the-tone of the public force to,,
a. level with the dangers of the Country; to excite
men tb emulation by the, influence of this ex-
ample. 'As to the remarks of the Honourable Gen-
tleman (Mr. Francis); upon the propriety of grant-:
ing the proposed suns to the 'collateral branches of
Lord Nelson:s .Family,,he thought the argument',
had not the weight that the. Hon. Gentleman at-'
tached to.it ; for., those branches being the objeas
of the Noble Lord:s. solicitude, belonging to his
Family and bearing his name, were, from all those
motives which stiggest a reward of this nature, fully
entitled to the consideration of Parliament. There
was, Perhaps„no desire that
.operated more power-
fully upon, the minds of many Men, than the desire
of founding a family; and perhaps • there was no
Class of men among whom this desire fOrmed 'a
gkeater stitripleo to a&1on, or n'higlier objet of
ambition, than those who con posed the Otlicers of
the Navy. For what, dangers .did, they encounter,.
what privations did.tbe,.), submit. to, in order to corn-
.•
muntl.:ate otherii thok!'ineans, those comforts and

eujoypents, Which they have no opportunity of en-
joying themselves ? This feeling, which formed
Such a prominent feature in the chara6ter Of a Sea-
_man, it was the duty and.interest of Parliament to,
cherish and to encourage—and what could serve as
a greater encouragement .to it. than the example
which this Bill propoSed, of Lord Nelson's merits
laying the foundation of a distinguished Family.?
l~Tew Clauses. wexe. introduced,..to-vest the money
in Trustees' for the purchase of an estate, and that
such money should bear 'interest until such purchase
was made also to enable Lord Nelson to' charge
such • money or estate with provisions for his
datighters also to empqwer the Trustees ,to lay
out the money in Exchequer Bills or other Govern=
meat securities.

The House resumed and the Report was ordered
to be received to-morrow. •

. ,
Lord TEMPLE brought in a Bill to regulate the
Pilots and Pilotage of Vessels tavig-ating the British
Seas.—Read a first and ordered to be read a second
time to-morrow: , .
I .

The Oak Baik Bill was read a second time and
committed for to-morrow.

The Royal Family Annuity Bill Went through a
Committee, and the Report was ordered to be
brought up to-morrow.
Ordered, on the Motion of Sir A. WELLESLEY,
that an Account 'should be laid before•the House
of the Expence of printing all Papers with respea
to India, excepting those which related to the
Budget, distinguiShing, the time the several orders
Were made, and the nature of each order, exclu-
sive of those presented to the House this day.
INDIA BUDGET. •

The House resolved into a Committee upon
the India Budget.; the Debate respeding it was
resumed.

• Mr; C. GRANT Went into' a long And minute
detail on the state.of the East India Company; he
contrasted the receipt and the expenditure of the
Company, and observed, that from the deficiency
of 5 oo,opoj. of the last year, a very considerable
sum was to be dedgled for political and military
services. He concliAcled by drawing a very flatter-
ing pitlure of the Company's resources, and that the
balance, taking all its stock of every description,
.
w muchas superior to every demand -on the Com-
pany.

! - After, a few observations from Mr. FRANCIS,
1 with respe& to Sir George Barlow,
Mr. 41clerigat; P.4I.I:ArSEP rose, and went into a
minute investigation of the Company's statement
presented to the House he. said he' felt it his duty-
' to Apprize-the Howe of the nature of. its, responsV
bility for the debts of the Company ; and that no
man; after reading the At of the 33d Geo.. 111.
could entertain any other idea than that of dire&
partnership : but however this partnership might
differs in other respeets, it was clear that the profits
were not equally divided ;• fur the.Proi*tOr§ were
dividing 10 per cent. while the. Country was at
the expellee of supporting the company: It had-
been frequently admitted that a responsibility :of 17
millions hung over England, and this at a most cri-
tical time; when the 'whole care and attention of
Minister, 'were requisite fOr"defending us at home :.•
yet at this moment had the Noble,Lord at the head
of the Board of Controul promised to undertake
the.settleMent of.this cumbrous and unwieldy con-
cern, this anornoliaus mixture of imperial Corn-,
meree. The Hon. Member then proceeded to
comment at length on the statements of the-Corn,-
' pay ; and after pointing out its incorrectness
various items, he proceeded t,o notice the. small
quantity of trade possessed by the Company,, which,
did not e,xceed 20,000 tons': he wished this to be.
contrasted with the indiVidual exertions,' of British
Merchants, if unchecked by the exclusive Charter
of the , Company. Here,,he asked, for what pur-
pose did this Country make sacrifices to preserve
India, but to possess a fair and natural share of its
trade ?. yet this share was both small and, con-..
temptißle, and fettered, 'in various ways. ' Yet so
desirous were the Company
,of, checking the pri-
vate trade, that though he, could aver, as a fa& well
worthy the: attention of the 'Noble Lord, that the
company's faculty .Of 'borrowing of individuals was
at an end, andthey were obliged' to Toad home with
private goods at 291.‘. per ton', yet they themselves
incurred the expellee' Of 01. 'to' support- their fa- •
vourite proje& of checking private trade. The
Hon. Member next adverted' to the late Peace in
India, and- expressed his appiehension that it would
not be permanent.... After reminding the, House of
Mr. Dundas's opirtion, that the debts of the Com-
pany must, ultimately fall, 011 this" Country, he con-
cluded by observing, that he felt it his duty to
shew to the House the responsibility t.kiey were
under with respe& to the Company ; that at
present lie should. make no, motion, relying on
the promise of the Noble Lord that an investiga-
tion of the. COMpany's .A.ffairs would soon. take
place. . ••
Lord C4S7 LERE,AG-11 'was fully aware of the
difficillties under which the East India.CoMpany at
Present laboured he nevertheless was very far Itom
entertaining . in his mind that gloomy view es the
Company:F.' Affairs which had been drawn by the
worthy Aldei-Man Vlio;:had just,. sat down; on the
contrary he was well convinced,. that if the Com-
pany's Affairs were vigorously cOndu&ed it would..
not be long, until they would reach as great a state
of prosperity as the. most sanguine wishes of any •
.friend to the interests of the Company could rea-
sonably entitle them to. expea. For thelaccom.-
plishment of this great object he 'would recommend
that the general state of the Company's Affairs
shOuld undergO the most ample investigation before
a CoMmittee. The result, he was confident, would
be highly favourable to the Company. But at the
• same time that he was convinced, from his InoW-
• ledge of the Affairs of, the, Company, that a Com-
mittee which had it in view to obtain a correct
statement of the debts, assets, and revenue Of the
-Company, must necessarily draw inferences fa-
vourable to the Company, as 'he had before stated,
still he Most clearly saw that something was want-
ing for the present to be done for the assistance of
the Company. To attain this. great and most de-
sirable °hied; he would recommend: that a' Loan
shOuld be raised under.the sanEtion. of Parliament ; .
not that he could by any means suppose that 'there
could be any hesitation or doubt of the.solveney of
the. Company, but that he'saw hoW much mo:e
'advantageously a. Loan Would be raised under such
cirennistanOeS ‘thiin if the Company itself was to go
lino' the Market for that ,purpose. Before Ireland 7
as united AO this Couli'try, it was the uniform

practice with the English rarliament to include the
Loan for Ireland in 'one general, Vote along with
that- which was given for this Country. By the
adoption of such a system the Company would gain
what they most particularly wanted—an extension
of their Capital, and the Public wou:.l have ,con-
siderably better security than they could now pos'-'
sibly have ; as, from the profits to accrue frorasuch
anextension of Capital; there would-. 17.! a-Sinking
Fund for the total
,and speedy extinaion of the
whole. Debt.

Dr: LAWRUNCE then caught the Chairman's eye;
,and was entering into a consideration of the sub.
je& when .

Mr. ItoiisoN rose to order, and moved that the
Hotise be-counted.

The: Gallery, was- then cleared :\ we understand
that only thirtp-one Members were present, conse-
quently an adjoUrnment took place at Twelve
o'clock. •

MAILS.
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THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK.
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SALMIS QUIS DICERS FALSUM AUDEAT

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WEDNESDAY, JULY IU, 1800.

THE account which was yesterday received at
LLOYD'S, of the Squadron under the command of
Admiral GUILLEAUMEZ and JEROME BONAPARTI4
having sailed on the 2,lst of April from'St. Salvadqr,'
confirms, in every particular, the statement' which
we laid before our Readers on the 3d inst. The
Squadron arrived there on the 4111' ‘of April, and
sailed again on the 21st. Six days 'afterwards it was
seen, only 25 leagues E. N. E. from that Port., ft is
rather singular that no intelligence has since been'
received of this Squadron, except a vague report,
of five Sail of the Line, supposed to be French,.
having been ,seen off St. Domingo, about the middle
of May. We. arc,: hovever, strongly inclined to,
think, from the wretched state which GUILVEAU..
MEZ'P Squadron is sta,ted to haVe been in, that be will;.
endeavour to get back to Europe. ;If that be his
design, there is every reason to hope that he wi4
fall in with some. of the Squadrons that are on the
look out for hind.

Fr was supposed that ilmiLico, the Messtmger,
would haye been dispatched last night, or early this
morning, to France, with, the aetermination of the
Cabinet Council which was held yesterday. He had
not, however, left Town when this Paper was, put to,
Press, but we have no doubt that he will set out in.
•
the course of the day.

The accounts of Mr. Fox continue to be '
very
favourable. He passed a, remarkably good night,
and was very wctl,l'able to see his confidential frip44,
this morning.

A Council of the Cabinet Ministers was yesterday
held at Mr. Fox's Office,- after which.' Dispfttches,
Were made up to be forwarded, to the court 4;)
Vienna.

Y. .
esterday morning 'Ms . MAIESTY, PRINCESSES-
SopnrA; and AUGUSTA, accompanied by Lady AL-.
JANA CUMBERLAND, Count MUNSTER, and Colonel
TAYLOR, took their usual morning ride. through.
Windsor Great Park to Cumberland Lodge, ,in
phaeton, until 'twelve.
HER MAJESTY, PRINCESSES ELIZABETH, and
MARY, rode froth the Castle in her Majesty's coach
and four to Winkfield Plain and back ;. the P,RIN
CESSES, after-Tiding with His MAJESTY, accompanied
HER MAJESTY on horseback. Arrived on a visit to.
their MAJESTIES, Lord and Lady SuuLti...
.The.general rendezvous.for the Troopagoing:upou
Foreign Service is to be at Portsmouth. Eight Com-.
panies of the 95th Rifle Regiment have begun their '
march from OsPringe ; three marched on Monday
morning for Portsmouth, and five are to embark at •
Ramsgate. - The Brigade of Guards froth Chat-
ham march this day and to-morrow, and embark
at Portsmouth. The 45th and 62d Regiments march-
ed Yesterday 'and to-day from Shorncliffe for Ports-
mouth. Their ground at Shordcliffe will be.occu-
pied by the 14th and 9lst, from Ashford : the.or-. •
ders for the embarkation of those Regiments having,
-we understand, been countermanded, a pneumonic
complaint, attended with typhus, having been preva-
lent, of which several men of both Regiments have
died. • The 14th began its march yesterday front
Ashford. The
.52(1 Regithent, from Brabourne Lees,
.moves in a few days for embarkation at portsmouth.
Yesterday the 14th Regiment of Light Dragoons
was reviewed on Hounslow Heath, by His Royal
Highness the PRINCE of WALES and the. DUKE of '
YORK, to whom their Colonel, the Earl of BRIDGE..
WATER, gave a splendid dinner at Richmond..
FETE • CHAMPE'PRE.—MISS BETTESWORTH, the
eldest, daughter of Mrs. JORDAN, gave a splendid
rural Fete on Monday last, at Gyfford Lodge, Twick-
enham.- The grounds were decorated' with great
taste, splendour, and beauty, but the weather was
not very favourable to entertainments out•of doors.
The whole of the house, but particularly the great
Saloon, was adorned and illuniinated In a very, brilr
liant and elegant manner. A. military Band af-
forded much, pleasure, and some rustic sports varied •
and enlivened the scene. A magnificent Supper
took place about twelve o'clock, after the Company
had sufficiently amused themselves with dancing.
Mrs. JORDAN presjded over the whole.
...The DUKE
of CLAREN,CE was, of course, of the party, and a
very large party of the fashionable circles were
present. A vast crowd.of people from the neigh-
bouring villages assembled round the mansion and
.gardens, -and were happy speetators of this superb
and beutiful scene of rural festivity.

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