The Sun.
London, England, 1830-06-15 00:00:00

Right Hon. Gentleman intended to assimilate the
duties between the East and West India produce.
Mr.. HERRIES said his plan did not embrace
such an assimilation.
, After some further conversation,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
consented that the Resolutions should be printed,
and the discussion taken on that day week.
The House then resumed, and the Chairman hav-
ing reported progress, obtained leave to sit again
on Monday next.
The House having resolved itself into a Com-
mittee on the Excise Acts—
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved a resolution to the effect—" That it was the
opinion of the Committee, that from and after the
14th of June, 1830, there should be raised and
levied upon every gallon of spirits distilled in Scot-
land and Ireland, or found in the stock of any dis-
tiller, or taken out of warehouse for consumption,
an additional duty of four pence."
The resolution was agreed to, and the report was
ordered to be received to-morrow.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
having moved the Order of the Day for the House
to resolve itself into the Committee of Supply—
A short conversation arose, in which Mr. Hus-
tossoss, Colonel DAVIES, Sir G. MURRAY, Sir R.
PEEL, and Mr. LABOUCIIERE participated, as to the
expediency of postponing the second reading of the
Canada (Civil Government) Bill, several Hon.
• Members interested in the question having left the
House in the supposition that the expected discus-
sion on the Sugar Duties would have superseded
the Canada question. Sir G. Murray stated, that
he had several important alterations in the Bill ; and
it appeared to be eventually understood, that the
discussion on the Bill had better be postponed until
those alterations had been introduced and printed;
and that a day should be fixed for the purpose.
The House having then resolved itself into the
Committee of Supply,
Mr. DAWSON moved that a sum, not exceeding
10,4451., be granted to. his Majesty, for defraying
the civil establishment of Nova Scotia, from the Ist
day of January to the 31st day of December, 1830.
Mr. HUME opposed the motion. The Colony
of Nova Scotia had a Parliament of its own, which
was quite disposed to pay all the expenses of the
establishments of the colony, provided the British
Government and Parliament would not interfere in
its affairs. .In consequence of the interference of
the Governor and Council with the House of Re-
presentatives, the latter had been dissolved, the re-
venue bills remaining unpassed. When the Earl of
Dalhousie became the Governor, he nearly threw
the colony into a state of civil war. Would the
House be prepared to vote the present estimate
when they heard that the establishments of the
colony, appointed by Government at home, cost ten
per cent. on the money collected as revenue ? In the
year. 1826, the revenue collected amounted to
15,0001.; the amount of the salaries of the officers
employed in the collection amounted to 6,2501. so
that a sum of only between 8,0001. and 9,000/. was
paid into the Exchequer of the colony. The Col-
lectors of the Customs received 2,000/. and the
Comptroller 1,000/, while the salary of the Chief
Justice of the colony was only 8501. The Hon.
MeMber concluded by moving, as an amendment, to
substitute in the resolution the sum of 4,4451. for
that of 10,445/.
Sir G. MURRAY expressed his surprise at the
statement of the Hon. Gentleman, that the people
of Nova Scotia were prepared to pay the expences
of the establishments in that colony. He could
only say that he was glad to hear it ; but that no
offer °ldle kind had been made to his Majesty's
Government. In what the Hon. Gentleman had
said of the interference of the Governor in Council
lie was mistaken; for at the time when the occur-
rence happened, to which the lion. Gentleman al-
luded, the Governor was actually at Bermuda.—
With respect to the salaries of the Officers of Cus-
toms, those salaries had been granted in lieu of fees,
and the change had been considered very beneficial.
Mr. LABOUCHERE regretted to find himself
obliged to refer to a subject on which he had hoped
never to speak—he meant the conduct of the Earl
of Dalhousie. He considered the conduct of Lord
Dalhousie to have been such, that he hoped the civil
government of Englishmen would never again be
entrusted to him.
Mr. WILMOT HORTON was decidedly of
opinion that it was for the Crown to appoint the
officers of the colony; but there was a wide differ-
ence between their appointing officers, and their ap-
pointing them at the enormous salaries which had
been described.
After a few words from Mr. Robinson, Sir H.
Parnell, Mr. M. Fitzgerald, and Mr. Moberly,
Lord ALTHORP thought that if l' ova Scotia
were suffered to manage its own resources, it would
be able to meet all its expenses.
Mr. BERNAL observed that there was always
great difficulty in legislating respecting these colo-
nies, and thought the Secretary for the Colonies
should be obliged to bring down to that House a
debtor and creditor account, having the resources of
the country on one side and its necessary expen-
diture on the other. Until such an account was
- produced he could not vote for the grant.
Sir G. MURRAY concurred in the principle
that Colonies ought, if possible, to meet their own
expences; and he thought it extremely probable
that Nova Scotia would do so before very long.—
Nothing, lie remarked, could facilitate this consum-
mation more effectually than the construction of
roads and bridges.
Mr. W. HORTON said a few words in expla-
nation, and again expressed his determination to
support the vote.
Mr. MABERLY offered to abandon the amend-
ment, if the Right Hon. Secretary would pledge
himself that this would be the last vote of -the kind
they would be called on to agree to.
Mr. HUME said that as there appeared to be no
disposition to agree to his Hon. Friend's proposition
he should press for a division. He remarked that
the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr: M. Fitz-
gerald) seemed to have changed his opinions with
his side.—(Hear.)
Sir G. MURRAY said that if the Legislative
Assembly of Nova Scotia would undertake to pro-
vide for the necessary expenditure, he would pledge
himself not to bring forward such a vote again.
Mr. M. FITZGERALD denied, in the most
unqualified manner, that he had changed his opinions.
The Committee then divided, when there ap-
peered—
Against the amendment 107
In its favour 59
Majority against the amendment... —4B
The resolution was then agreed to.
On the motion that a sum of 3,600/. be granted
for the Civil Establishment of New Brunswick,
Mr. HUME said that the receipts of that colony
amounted to 36,000/., and would be able to supply
its own demands if it were properly managed.
Mr. NIABERLY thought that the vote might
be rendered altogether needless if Ministers would
but reduce expences, for which he could see no pos-
sible use. There was a sum of 6,0001. given as
a bounty on bread, another of 16,253/. for roads
and navigation, and a third of 12,9001. for public
buildings.
Sir G. MURRAY said that in 1828 the first
expense was 6,000/., it was now reduced,to 4,0001.;
the cxpence for roads had been 16,2531., but it was
now 9,773/. ; and the item for public buildings,
which had then been 12,900/., was now reduced
to 6,592/. These sums had been rendered neces-
sary by the serious calamity which befel the colony
three years ago. The province was, however, ra-
pidly recovering, and he trusted it would soon be
able to bear its own expences.
After some further discussion, the vote was
agreed to, as was also a resolution for granting
4,0001. for the Civil Establishment of the island of
Bermuda.
On the resolution for granting 3,820/. for the
civil establishments at Prince Edward's Island—
Mr. ROBINSON observed that there were two