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bold out. 1— concluded frotii a view of all the Ell%

gutnents, that the capture of the Danish fleet was
pot only necessary and justifiable, but highly corn-
Mendable.. In , that ..view he thought the House
bound to set a fixed mark of .its approbation 'otk•fa
measure which it had repeatedly sartalioned with its
full assent, in a variety of forms. He therefert4lef
signed, alter the present question should be disposed
of, in the manner in which he was sure the House
must from, every principle of reason and consistency
deal with it, to propose a Resolution,' stating that
They fiqu.e, considering his Majesty's Answer to. the
ossiaa,lleclaration; and the tats laid down in that
Paper, and the determination of the Enemy to com-
bine ita the Powers of the Continent in a maritime
conleXeracy against Great Britain, cloth highly ap-
proie of the -prompt and vigorous measures .taken
by, his Majesty's Government to disconcert and de-
feat those hostile plans.
Mr. PORCHER highly approved of the Expe-
`dition to Copenhagen. He,expeaed to have found
some novelty in the arguments advanced to bring
the House to decide against the merits of the mea-
sure, after it had 40 often sanaioned it with unlimited
approbation. But when he reviewed the whole
speech of •the Honourable Gentleman on the other
side, he found nothing in it but old friends with
:flew faces. •

[lick the means of carr)ing the-Aesign into

execution were provided* and the Enamel" of .The
execution, were entitled to
.the highest commenda,
tion.'
..,.Mr,ABERCROMBIE went at length into 114
case, and argued decidedly against the justice, and
policy of the Expedition. The violation of good
tisith.wasi in opinion, but. ill:compensated-by a
few Ships; which, if in the enemy's possession,
AVOald be but 'die meaus'of additig another glorious
name to the lists of our Hotves, -Nelsons, and' St.
Vincents.,,,
Mr. R.TITIORNTOIV testified his approbation of
the conduet of Ministers in regard to the Danish
Expedition. What would have been the charge
against them if they had, not, exercised their fore-
thought and guarded us from the evils of a dangerous
onlderacy ? Ministers were sworn to their Sove-
reign .and the People to defend their liberties and
lives ; they had 'performed a Mord duty, and ren-
dered 'to the country the service of their faculties.—
Mr. Thornton then adverted to the Law of Nations,
and said there could be no law of nations while the
law of France was substituted in. itS' stead. France;
Austria, Prussia, Russia, Denmark, all the Continent
was made but one nation, and joined in one com 4
mon cry, " the liberty of the seas, and the paelliT
cation of Europe." He adverted to the History of

Air. H. LUSHINGTON contended, that there Denmark for several years past, and alluded to` her
was no necessity to call for the Expedition, nor was violent seizure upon Hamburg!). He believed the
there such advantage 'in point of security as to ao , Vitiory of Lord Nelson to be the great cause' of
away the crime of the violation of public faith that the inveteracy of the Danes against this Country.
accompanied it. The difference between the Co- i They claimed a victory though they lost their Ships,
penhagen case and the proceedings at Lisbon' under i and were completely beaten ; and he stated, that at
the. liras Administration was; that ample assistance i Altona, and he believed in otherplaces, an annivere
and proteCtion, was offered tolhe Court of Portugal, sary had been ridiculously appointed to celebrate'
and that no such offer was made to the Court of ' their success against the -Isoravy,of England in the
Denmark. year 1801. Mr. Thornton said he bad received let
Lord G. L. GOWER hoped the House would in- l ters, which gave him an 'opportunity to know thif
Bulge him while he stated a few faas, on the ground l the public mind -at St, Petersburgh was set against us
of which-he felt himself bound to dissent from the previously to the Danish Expedition, which was
Resolution, and to support the Amendment which called at that place a spirited measure; and be
it was. proposed to introduce, upon • it. He bad thought it oughten be praised by the Clothiers of
listened to all the arguments advanced to support Leeds, because it was more likely to produce peacti
,the Resolution, and there was not one aindng them then atiy thing that had taken place..
which gave hint reason to doubt, that if the Eltpe- The SECRETARY at WAR considered the pro?,
dition to Copenhagen had never taken 'plaCe, we ceedings, at Copenhagen
(as no breach of the law of
should now have been equally at war with Denmarknations. There was an engine. of war which the
as we are. It was the known and avowed deter- Enemy meant to turn.agaipst us, and we anticipated
minatiort of the French Government to force all the him by getting possession of it first. He shesved
Cotitineutal Powers to take a part in the war, and that the Danes were totally incapable of makitig.
Denmark, it was notoriously known, wanted any resistanoe in Holstein ; and their having taken.
strength and resolution to resist the repeal. He Lid tiO step to remove their army to Zealand, or to put
no doubt that Denmark would have preferfed neu- that and other Islands into a state of defence, even
treaty, if left to her option : 'but when the alterna- When alarge French army, under the command of
tive of chusing between - Britain and France would Bernadotte, ,a General of considerable eminence,
have .teen put to her, he had as little doubt that entered. Hembargli, •was a proof That- no resistance
her iodination and her fears would have led. her to was intended. No othereobjeet could be asaigned
prefer France. The House would recolle4t, freer for this essetnialage of French troops at Haniburgh;,
the correspondence of Lord Howiele with Mr. Rist but to compel Denmark to coincide in the views. of
anti Mr. Garlicice, that When the Conn of MM. France. Even the nay.al force of Denmark, which
,mark. was most loud in complaint of the Order in i was essential to the defence of Zealand,. was in such
Council of the 7th of January,
.which was it, stria i a condition, that it required six weeks preparation to
conformity with the, law of nations, it was, at the • fit it to encounter the, sea. From these eir-
same timee taking all possible pains to palliate the , contstances it was evident that there was in the
Etench Decrees, which went to violate the metre- ' Court of I.).:iituark A want of power and exertion to
lity of every Nation. He would also bring toelte defend itself, and, a disposition to yield, which it
recollection' of .the HOuse, that all English letters : became our duty to anticipate, so far as the etfeas,
bad been prevented from Liaising to and froM the of it may be detiireetitaf to us. •
tuntinent by meaus of
the Danish . pat •, and that ' Dr. LAWRENCE. went over ell ‘ the old argn-
lvir. Thornton had heen, in . consequ.'nce, obliged milts upoo the subjeCli , and introduced many of
to mese ese.of special 'Messengers when 'he , wanted awed which he had himself. urged upon the ques-
to .send any dispatch of ever so
,little Mointeat. It 1 0011 of the Orders in Council Bill ; .some of which
was also Material to consider, that tbsetiew system caused a general coughing to take place.
of maritime law annuuticed by Ilitonaparte was in Air. Al. fIiZGARdLD followed on the same
perfect conformity with the . known pOlicy of the side; contending that. the decisions to which the
Court of;Dentnark, with the principles which had House bad, already, come ow the present subject by
employed' ' the pens of the, able St. Danish 'writers, I no means precluded the propriety of an opposite re..
end 'With'. the feelings and-, interests of the whole ' sult to the.preeent debate, • • ' - •
Danish people. From '"all these considerations,.Mr. ptCiAji observed, that whether. we had
ihere• was- no dank' OD‘. Intl 'mind, that if . psn., ' been vigorous as we bad been; -or . listless us we •
,
minx was put to the alternative, as soe mi.. , might have been, it appeared' to..him to be evident.
tairily would hbirliein; ilie ,would „have pre- that.l)entnark must have yielded to the requisition
tiered the ;111i:ince- of France to* that of 'Britain.. of Prance, to.engage in hostility. agettist Great RH-
Will} respeCt to Russia too, he, telt ,hiniself taro. ,As to persuading, Europe that we had acted
Obliged icedispete the principle;, that because front a right,: it was. not likely that we should do so; censi..
natural alliance. with Britain the was compelled to: dem* that ,Europe was, with scarcely an eicePtion,
make peace mid alliance with the. enemy of liriteio, i underelie dominion and controptef France, against
DO sincere or eifeteual co-operetion in the designs of 1 I
which. Power
.the recent seizure of
,the Danish fleet
that ettemy.Was to' Lie appreheeded from her., For was a most decisive and irrecoverable, blow. The
Ids part, lie saw but a short.interval between the ae.. :fullest eeidenee had been addueed.in 'support of the
ousatiere pf.'negleet on the part- of ' Britain, with, Justice,aild necessity .of our:proceedings- at Oopean-
which Russia accounted for the necessity of coticlutl- ' Wagerte the only evidetice that had' been adduced
iiiiiiitit it, .was the :llooiteer, whence tee! Hone
log- the- lieace of Tilsit,' and'a die nertittilaafton in
the designs' against England: Ile 'd not mean that . Gentletnee opposite had derivedelie statements and
Russia would have run hastily into such: a war, but : arguments by, whiclethey endeavoured to cote radial-
teat weeiellie atteniaLee would have been put to 'their hovereign, tO vilify his Mitiisters, ,and to insult-
her, she-would have taken part against England, the country,. , The• Papers nit,.the. table proved:that
it was not on secret intelligeuce merely he
.relied,; the French had been endeavouring with all their art
the public answer.;given to public questions. Put .by •to cajole the. Danes; aud that the. I) e)es were very
him inadti thes,tine iinereaSion. When he.stated j willing to be eaickled by. them. I. It apeeared. to .hirn,
to the Russian Minister, as a ground fiar detaching however, most clearly; that the question was, .whe-
Russia from any policy hostile to Britain, that what thee France. had it ie view to seize the Danish Navy,'
was inierious to •Ili itaitellalSt be.e110.314' injurious to ' and 'Whether France had, the power to do so r: li. was
Ressia ; the altseee was, " If )' 'ou have any hole- : conceded en all leinds,, that France had the will ; it
erice at hoine, persuade. yout%. GOVe run len tto make, was all Owed by Lerd Howick in his dispatches that
peace.WiLll lerailee.!, With respeet- to. what thee Wance„had the power.
peace that woeld be so neide maybe, tbe 'peace • 111r.IPLIITBREdli asked, whence had the asser-
Made by RUisia herself, and-every thing. that follow- tibit of a hostile mind eeistinge and long • precon-
ii ci upon that 'peace, would
.enable the House. io ceived, in Deemark,,cotne in this last stage of the
andge. But there was anotbeette;•also ; for he re- ,debate,? From a Noble Lord, -whose iesertion in
membered • that w heti the. Treaty of 'Continental , .
thiecaseC.4llMllol4l(l: the .Sovereign with whom pe
Alliance S. s sighed in I ena, while the Emperor of :had so lately nego4ned ; and who,in the, upport (if
Russia was ardent in the' general opposition to the. his new political .friende, contended also, that Russia
principles' of prance, and before he was yet sits would .new tae at. win-With Great Britain CS en had
. gusted:by the eveuteelthe' Austrian campaign the the attack on,CopenbagenneYer taken place. This
Russian Ministers would not sign it "without reserv- he absolutely . denied. lii . making • their defence,
ing.a tight for their Miter to 114 his good offices 11inisters had cut their own throats. It their pro-
with the King of England, foe the .correetion of any ceedings was iniquitous, they. had .been most paltry
thing -contrary to the principles of justiee that ie theif iniqeitysit,.their proceeding was just, they
may be Iceind in they maritime code of EnglandLeeo had not dune halt enough.'. They .had not . gained
England eras, indeed, to have been maitegedbykute the objet at .which they had aimed.., Having made
ate for a' time. 'The • French expression, user.l-4y a ' Pentutrlc deeideilly „hostile, they left Zealand to be
Person of high authority, whOnisit:was not necessary occupied by the etleniye . Having basely' attempted
to .name, "it fact pour le moment menager l' An- to. deprive the .tnuele.itajured Crpwn -Priem of his
gleterre," left no
,room 'tie 'elOubt the eltimate dominions, they now more' basely attempted to de-
h sstile determitiatioli. The founittatioil ofthe whole price bun of hie: charaCter. . Was it possible that
power, and the principal deSigns oPshe hostileteti- i his Majesty's Ministers. were• serious in supposing
tederacy, was theDanisit Fleet ; and in taking pos. that, by
,withclra.wing. these sixteen Ships, 'without
'session, of thatlleet, 'tne foundation of the a6tltre 1 a ma" in them, thtitarettgat,ol,74te Northern COn-
hostility of. ,the Colifederates was destroyed. He federacy wareclestroytid Must not the-Swedish fleet
Would maintain- that no 'men ihetbe•Situation in go, and.. 30.0
.not that fleetr 'mom dangerous than
IA bleb his, Majesty.'s.Mioistars Were,' and receiving - thpt of:Deninark ? Wily, again, be. would :asst,
the information he knew they bad received, could Were
,they, se shabby in . their ipiqUities.i . Why
avoid doing as they' lied'd ea:. The aCt %v (1 as ton • d• they not seize the Sesedi'slt )~eset also ? The
formable 19 precedents,, whieh,.if . not exactly coin- ! Isoble Lord declared; that nt) AdminiSlrai Lim ever
eicleet, were at least analogous. He thought the ; existed in this Country that would not have date
Expedition itself a matter' of course; ibe neesn,j. i the same. Had not hislion. Friends near him po-
,

Sitively denied this ? 'Had not Lail:Grenville, Lord
Howia,,and Lord Holland dontradid6d it ? -If their
had not done so,!they would have forAeited his goodopinion. The" Noble Lord asserted that the mind of
Russia was hoStile to this Country ; and that at the
Very mument when he signed .the insane Treaty of
Confederacy against . France, in !Ono, lurking hosti!,
liiy existed on the
,part of Russia. Under such cir-:
cutustanees hoW was it poSsible to achieVe-the
ob-
jeL<l of that Treaty. The Noble Lord"had given a
charader to the Emperor of RusSia which did, not
belong to him. He had been sele6ted for his mis-
sion. because he was considered as partial to the
Emperor, and he now says he was not to be trusted.
Why had be not told his Court so ? Another rup-
ture might, have occurred, but unquestionably the
rupture that did take place between Great Britain
and Russia was occasioned by the attack on Copen-
hagen. He did not believe any of the conclusions of.
the Noble Lord, and particularly that by taking six-'
teen • Ships, the strength .of the Maritime Confede-
racy of the North was deStroyed. Was it incom-
patible with the assertion of Russia, `that the secret
articles of the Treaty of Tilsit did not militate against
England. (which he firmly believed), that the Em-
peror should recommend, through, his Minister, to
the Noble Lord to advise his Government to make
a peace ? We were now in this situation—SWeden;
by this times W2S. probably- overpeWered, or m:idn
onr enemy. We had the population.of De. emark
heart and soul against* us.. Every thing had been
done to procure fur Britain the execration of the
Universe. , . .

law of nature sir <dal baits; and Whatei4i
the ,votuvfitbatzttig *theft! nd itiw Con ues &hotild
bavelliosatisfiClion,to retlM, that their ilikeastifei
had. been .succeSSt'ul, and promoted-the security'of
the Empire.- •
IMMO' PETTY-'should not have off.n'ed
Himself to the House on ' a question which miriS in
elect) abler hands than, his, in those-of the Hon.
Gentleman, who had with so much ability op.lied
the discussion,, if it had not been for some all,tsions
that had -been made by 'the' Right Hon. Wntletnati
who had just sat down, to some measures of the
late Administration.. He contended that the pies of
the Expeditions to Lisbon andCopenhagett were not at
all parallel; and then entered into a :letaile3 defence'
of that to Lisbon, chewing; by citing several extracts
from the iostructions, that there had been I wo patific
propositions submitted to ^the Portuguese Gwern-.
mein before any actual farce was to be employed
for obtaining theposseciion of the Portugnlse Fleet.
Mr. SIIARPI3 made' a general reply anclthe Se-
cretary at War entered into a few f.xplanations.-
The House then divided on Mr. Sit Attiiqf Mo-
tioh,

Ayes . . -
Noes • •
Majority for Mioisters -

64
2z4

Another divislon took place on Mr. STUART
WORTLEY'S Vote of Approbation of the Expedi-
tion :--

Lord G, .L. Gowns explained, and briefly art-
severed the insinuations of the: last speaker. ~ •
Mr. Secretors C4ALNING, vindicated the condu&
and 'ccinsisteticy of his,Nlohle Friend, and asserted,
that thetili[froin the communication received tram
hini; he had.nrit any sanguine expectation that ho
tint), ‘vith Russia.could be avoidedi it had been, hitt
and his Colleagues'wish to avail t bernitaves of, every
OnportUnity,lirat'inight oiler of restoring a good Un-
deritanding between • the two Commiea. Though'
the; eventual' hostility with .BUssia was to' have been
apprehended, they yet had a hope, that in, the inlet vat'
some circumstances might occur, which, if improved,
might preserVe the relations between the two Na-
tion.undisturbed; This was precisely consonant to
the views held out, and the communicatibns.made by
his Noble Friend, But whilst.they felt a hope that
war might be avoided, it Was their duty not to have
neglected any measure of security against the com-
bination of Russia,
_ which was the most probable
alternative. The Hon. Gentleman who had jest lat
doWn, had again insisted on an argument whit:kali
who-had precededhim, appeared to have abandoned,
viz. that the ,Expedition to Copenhagen had pro
duced the war with Russia. if the Papers .on the
table did not prove that not to have been the case ;
if the Ressian Declaration, since published; if 'she
condutt of Russia towards Sweden did not disprove
it, he could refer to the authority of a person of the
first rank in Russia, to prove the contrary to have
been thecase: Countßonianzovi,in his itnerview with
the English merchants at St. Petersbnrgh, stated, as
one of the instatices of our barbarous contin'et 'to Res-
ale, that we had detained a. frigate laden with specie,
to whiCh they replied; that it had happened after a
Declaration 'of War ;
,aye, said Count Romadzow,
but did' we not stiffer the Astrea frigate, laden.
with specie, to-depart after we had determined to
go to war with Great Britain The Astrea had
sailed from IViemel on the 27th of July, months
before any Declaration of War, • and wet-ks be-
fore any intelligence could hive received
of the, Expedition to Copenhagen. This circum-
stance sheaved; that that Expedition was not the
cause of the war. As to the indignation expressed.
by the Hun. Gentleman, because his Noble Friend
had stated, that any Administration would hiVe acted
in the same mariner under the same circumstances,
he had but to '.observe, that as his Noble Friend
'thought diff:rently of the measure from the Ho.
nourahle Gentlemap, it was not surprising, trig
should have said that those Ministers; -who had
undertaken the L,pedition
,to Lisbon, would have
'acted in the same manner at Copenhagen. Rut he
would have. reastht to, be -offended, 'ir his Noble
Fiiend,;ll.o asseried the penVerae of thisproposition,
;that those %Alb° had aeled CePenhagen would ha%
-conducted the Lisbon Ex.p:N.lition in the manner irl
which it tind.been condueted. Here be 'quoted (,!•• '
yerai passages from the instru,,:tions. to Lords-St:.
Vincent aust ittlyti, she v. that these instruc-
aions_were, a mass of accumulated frauds:ant:L(l4U-
sion.; and atter • gearding himself against "pigeon-.
struc.tion, by stating that the name of the. venerated
'character that appeared arris.ed to it was onlyahere in
form, as flout the stat,.; ut his health .at the, time, it::
'was in Ow it could have been: his produC-
tion, hedeciare.l; to the facc,ol. the I twise, CantsAhese
instructions. he would not hittiaeir hate signed.,
When, he had ~tUptid them
.in the '.!dice, he.,did
not believe that they were t pretinctioa of that great
than, and an ieeeiry had chseoyered thai.theinstrue-
: tions had been drawn up by a Right lion. Colleagae
of that venorated persol), ho a: red for cluriug
the latter part of his iliness.• if this the-01l
systelli if these were the tratidsamd de-
lusions prauti4eci by the priests of the ol..Lschotil,
thanked God that they had ,been departed front.—
, Such delttaious might often hue been praetised,
but he had never seen -them so, set down be-
' fori. Fie knew not how these instruaions could
bee .delendcd. It mi4in be .upon the difference.
of the of the petit: At the time -of
the Lisbon Expedition, Buonaparte was distratled
wide. a Continental rising; at .the•period.of the Cow
pephageOExPedition, be was c.otubining conquered'
Europe againat this coutetryi,
,in the former case; the'
Fleet of Portngal could not ttisily be brought to Mt.
in conjunalon with any ottlu naval force; the Da-
nish Fleet, tin the contrary, was at the point where thts-
jimaion must formid.ible to Britain, of the Northern
Fleets, might have beebeeteffeeted : the. petit was
not mote' imminent. for ttwarrny placed at a six
weelta'march distance at Bayonne; as to Holstein
from au army at Harnbargh. The force sent out
to c openha„en was such as to insure the success of
the Expedition with the kelt possible loss; and the
naked opinion of Mr, Garlicke was not to be taken
without the circumstances, which were)! first, that
Deinnark shoti,ld make no choir to defend Holstein,
that she should lyive n timely toncert with. SWoden,
and that ;iv o 4 underitanding' should continue. be-
- tweL'it Great brium and Russia...- Notice of these

coiltinBcacios takeu phice. Thotuciasure was to
, be ticfdaded without proceeding one stop from the

,Ayes 216--,Noes 61--Nlvjority iss.
Adjourned at Half-past Six o'Clock.

TO THE EDITOR OF.TH.E,-SL74V.

Silt,

Being lately in company with a friend,oCrnine„
our conversation t u ri led on "t he subje& driwitieeth
of Mr. "'i \ rilitbreaci in the' Please of conittditii., ott.
the 291 W 'of last inotithir AS.: given isi-44444forrring
Cltrankle.. of March t , .18;0'84 'the' • tMfbwiti4' con-
tains suine.of the'obsers'ations tticiiimstAl'="- -- -
, . mrp-,Whitbreadlio' ha' atttlipt'4.ll'4.'bife,ft Mr.-
, ,
Carmen 'on :0;1114)016d mis,:tiattilittionciat rih.Pailtta4(3
in. Prince 1)e. Stahreinherg's NOW, iii'" §t IDitiinary.;‘,.
was himself egr,,,4iously mistaken. .1i is'wriet:2..sslry'
to reAlea,t_the lifici4ige. antral tCliz--"lreiit'6loarge do
pioperserlau Ministiire Anglois d'enVoyer iturnediate-
• men t des-Plertipotentiatrerrp 3iS-;" noili'TtlaifeT du
retahlissettywdle IgikkslittrStc4.tes,iTs, .Piiis.sitses
.aciiielletdinT en guerre AvgfilAngieterre"—trans- .
fated thus, " tic,,is chargedlevropose tu the Eng-
lish Ministry to St,mViiintnkchatelytWeApotentiaries
'to Paris for the putipoii4.treft:tngittir.titieestablish-
,rneittof peace between all the. Po‘yers,at.pry......:ent .at,,
War with England.'' Mr. Whitbread eontend's here,
that had it beim intended to ,e.eitifle the „tidies of
England, the expression would have been- contre
not avec ` I' An g leterrel, 431W4itts -is, oil. erret.' The
IFrench idiots. never_ ..ialtlitS thu.nse„...uf-ate---word-
:contre in a sentence., cvsistied Of the auxiliary titre
:with the prepositiOn en. lii the' Sentence before
us there is an .ellipsis,. the sentence 43.6,1:fe1-ore to be
thus understood : entre touter •les Puissances etursotit-
aC4ellement en giiefre- eat .'c, .1s illigitlerrVA FAlrld'UO
,;FIVI1C11:11.1t1 wepacipaainted with his languagv, (,:ouldii
'possibly understand; thit the `Powers defini.ld' in this
sentence; are the 'Powers Wilts:4lly owagiog war Can •
jointly with, kinglandist&t. whett,J,lw gattlttatce, is
conitrual with the preposition clans, tt. awl lekeinch ,
idiom admits oY tbß word centre. Ex.. it est aquelte.
ment employd dans la guerre coutre la Turinie ,-litti!.'" • '
It. is true that in PrinceStahremyerg's Noi,e, the
Alliei of England. are not eXpliedy,excluded, bat .
most certainly the .French .construOion;:iinplies the
exchisiop. I\lr. Canning therefore' is s",t.tt,ly. justified ,
'in",t tei have courted an explanation, bei.:aitse none is
netei.6ry Where doubt cannot pbssibly exist. This
:opinion.gains.an additional strength.. froin the Atit-,,e
jolloiwing induppons :---i st, became in writing, awl .
padi'licularly on State matters, whlteverii not includ-
ed is necessarily excluded: • 2(11y, [lad it. ''neeit in.
tended to include the. Allies. of England;' thelFrench
nretoo well acquainted with their,own hog-nage not,
to nave clearly eipreisell their !waning :, thasett-
tr_nce would, prob.ibly, have 13:!elt th!`s—" entre
txtt,'i. les Pnissanca.:belligerantes"—Vetiveen..aii alio
lelii!fereut Ppfvers, which would liave dope away-,alldonlits. 3dly, Because it has been the imarrible
f 4 '
:.,y.i-,ii-Of France to make no other Treaties but
separate Ones ; for th0,2.::',11 they had- once consented
,toAteat conjointly with England and Russia,.it was
• ':it` a. time when• the . defection of tiiis last POWer
pitria.ll(ll br' reagoti Ally' expoCted ; .hat iSitiee.Rtissia
had received the lawsof the French, it was: mpbssiblis
to stypoie.ol.ll they Nvoll.i.y9lwitarity,,lnotitilpsi of,
thornsekes, tehounce a, system hitherto pursued with
. sol'itiitcliquixesg.. As theabove obseivaii'ota rest on
. a rather: iticsi .pnint .:of4he -French,. language, 'Mr., '
SW Iltt lx;9,01. 'lllfqin 'I qIQA 11MY , i)t. e3sitY, .4400 tiled
for ; hut one might nave, expecte I that a Gettil,:matt ,
larthis•gii4tl sentri46ilia4ttlit hive -61tuthittcd him-
telffas-plablicly.Withetitjust,.tanse4r it. ..ln'thiiri-
bt4ll.BtNis, NVlk.ithrtl44.4wit.clit net sht, :only. one
lei w iiickiiii iil-min:lgeLl i. i
.ill-Peci
lu: ze4l..sol:,,tite, .
t!at,i.:;:'(';t. tiniii:lll4:lis Ciirried:hinibe,yorirproPer
lininXT: hel'e id, alliohilt;.f-bilierS;'-imie, IlnAiihiCh I
ottct.:46, c.auds‘ntrioClo otortiotbivti .sguntifiaedAtt to ,
ti,l-41? pi kcm I „ ~)6.,.!(.: :,I,..,,,Wi.rktAYttiil)rgacl ~est,ab.,44es,''.
In an Undeniable' mattner;: \'
thati. 11, 6 in, right
to' delitio tit ItusSla thif4tithintmicatieti 'Of 'the
Sestret IV.ticles of, t*frreaty,of Xilajt,.. car t lie', legal .
r0ttp1,,,,. thtit.tplat it.lwqr wa# n?t at libeytt.ko cAtA.
Muincate them wit the .consent al' Franve.
Gfanted,' irthtit etartaiNtrgiti?feed i but canaotYieitits
'j
bort at tiuvidea thlitl-his vibeiple wasAbrOught .Ibr-
,
ward, utsrsly, with- .a„Riettilts Anew, thtit itly49 im..
politic to jejetathe mettivion ofßussia. .I)nt in the
, . name 'or cot/VI-16h" iense';V•ititing that Isifiitcitigi,rifih .*
• has been-indiscreet i It ' I hiVabtrtand, does this, indis- '
.-. cretion,ehathw the tr.uttro
,and. solutionico4.9,«lrNe!.,
prOpesitiOn, which is this .•--.Was Russia tile proper
.: Nita' to tri*clia te betwee i n hliVountriviiid Fralny.e;
! Since the completion , of :.thel`reaty of Ifiliiit, and
particularly since 4.4 acknowledged that.' there aye
Secret Articles to that Treaty ? Certainly not. Tii.:
prOposed mediation ;night have been 'answered thus;
" We
.know that a mediator is not'an unipiri;- but
" we know also that a partial and poWerful mediator
" cannot be but
,a dangerous one,, prompt to take
" otienee, if his exertions are not sacessfuL klithi •
" to Russia's interests were intimately Connetied-
" with ours. She was to make no peace but eon, ,
" jointly with us : ' she has thought proper to deylate
' F" from hr, engagements, whether trout dire tie.
' 0° cessity or otherwise, is immaterial ; how far she
' " 16'4 c:liiingett her situation with us, is what we
1 , " cannot tell; ,Wti only know that there are Secret,

•,-,•••••••• ""P -'",r y 'WV I 14%..-••
mand'ol her to communicate to u.s the3e Secret
" Article-4, because: she cannot do it without the
" consent of France; and the very reasons which
€` prompted the addition of Secret Articles, would
oppose,they should be made public: But as long
"as we remain ignorant of the nature of those se.
" cret engagements, we cannot trust ourselves in
" the hands of Russia; for though:we may be told
" that we are not concerned in those Articles, we
" may Iv: so eventually; Russia may have bound'
herself to enter so far into the views of BUONA-•
" FABER, in the case of England refusing to treat
" on such or 'such basis agreed on between the two
" Emperors; these Secret Articles may stipulate the
spoliation of some dominions to the. preservation
" of which we may be deeply interested; in short,
" these Secret Articles may contain the very con-
cessions made to the Emperor of Russia, con-
cessions which alone may explain that astonishing
" tte,vliction of those principles which had cemented
oar union. In vain would it be said that we can-'
net, without giving offence to Russia, suppose
" that
.the Emperor ALIIKANDEIt has suddenly and
entirely divested himself of his former attachment
to England, dr doubt his sincerity in his proffered
" mediation : tlie,very -considering 'the nature,
" .motives, and recency of .our last engagements, of
" having not concluded a Treaty which it may be
i!oetended was'didtated by necessity, but of having.
" Added to it Secret .articles; is. of itself sufficient.
" utterly to destroy .all our confidence in him. Thus
" situated, 'we' 'must either decline
.the' proffered
"/ t !iation, or deinalid to be made acquainted on
what. a basis France is disposed to treat."

I ow.n, Sir, that I join with the Oppositidn, in the
wkii that the whole- •English-natiori should be con-
vinc.,d, which of ttiii Country or France is an ob-
sinle to an honourable peace; and though. I do not
took upon the attainment of this objeet as impossi-
ble, yet I am so fully aware, of •the difficulties that
would attend it, that I could 'ace more intrust the
humane Qpposition with the negotiation, under the
most severe penalties not to tommit their Country.
lan) Most egregiously mistaken, or once more they
would he exposed to the world, as en example of
flp-2 truism contained in this line of the French Poet
.
‘ritigtier est 456, anzis l'att,est
D. D.
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.. . ,
Though' every thing Olt .eoul(i. be said , ).:wear
of the Danish, Expedition, and against it, has- been
tniged over'and over again in parliament; as 'Well as.
in the Ditily,,Prints, .and thy
.nutnberless Other pro-,
dukciidlis of..the public Press, till, with reverence be
it :r.h Le,i,: :" inspiration' canli i ly Throw .a new
ii,,3ht on the subject,:! yet Mr. SHAIII;fi, thought.
I)Mivr :to..iiitt °duce ' this liiickneyed theme last
li ;lit in 'Ow Clouse 0( Coninions.-::-EVery thing
We my truly attirm, h,ts been
often betbre, and An a much better
nittnier, ' was hituself obliged to acktiow-
had found' his :advantage in' the.
t..,! vv!iich had taken
on this indeed,
di lie. tint as tire-
• • "
,rcties.ltitiott ot hackneyed observationg.—
ing* other venturous assertions,. Mr. StiAltPli
thatPenn.:irk w 0,....114 hare h'ecniiti4abteed.
h‘tr Itnasia; -England-had- not at-
rii to violate that nentri.lity. It Might be`con-
,:elvcd 12‘.b?:, a tm4tMon Newspaper niig.htliava,
•,..tr(irifcd in Ara such. information as would
have prevented billf from making such an assertion.
_f!i the Kewat titt;itied and sabserVient state of
It Baia, what
,gh.tratitee could; Ate have afforded
Deinnark if we had left. the :nanish Navy at the
,i,iercy of France, and she had lr i disposed to seize
it ? Aftir coosuisting to share. ,10 the spoliation of,,
her• Ally, Prussia, we might rether • expect that
Russia would most reattly.. have suffered France.
to
:do' just as she pleased. with Denmark, and:
not have presumed to breathe a murmur on.
the subjed, Do not We,ttoti Russia at the present
moment. edvenving- to, the destructton of Sweden,
if pbssible, .and employing_ the treacherous arts •
of setketiop,ln addition to her open hostility ? and',
how itati,SWeden Offended her but by persevering in
that righteous cause w.bieh nuala has so shamefully
deserted ? Sd much for •. What this sagacious Mr.
SHARPE. says as to the disposition, or the ability of.
'Russia to 14arantee the neutrality of Denmark against
the power of France. -But Mr. SHAH im's Speech was
very properly chara6lerlsed byanot her Member last
night, who said it would have been better fitted for
the first day of the Session; and, indeed, sue it was