The Sun.
London, England, 1839-05-15 00:00:00

correctly that part of the conversation which related to
the determination and deei,ion that her Nl,jesfY hi di
Come to, but the Noble Viscount opposite has stated
that be gave he: M jesty advice upon
statement which the N,itile Viscount nchnitted
was erroneous. He did not. draw any cons!lusion from
that, except that he tl.ouglv it the duty of every
:o escertain beVr .. they nave their advice, the cor-
rectness of the statement on which that advice was
given. He would admit, whether the statement
was erroneous or not, that the Noble Viscount
had a perfect right to act upon the principle
that the advice which he (the Duke of Wel-
lington) and Sir Robert Peel had given was erroneous.
—( Hear, hear.) With respect to thJ
principle upon
which they had proposed to act, he could not, hat
think before a Queen regnant the principle was correct.
Although be would admit it to be true that
the Queen had no political conversation with
the Ladies about her, he thought it would
be extremely difficult to convince the public that sueh
political conversations did not take place, and that
political influence was the result. Their Lordships
must recollect who the persons were that were to have
that conversation. For his own ,part he thought
that there were numberless instinces where improper in-
fluence had been exercised by females .t Court, and
where it had been extremely prejudicial to the office
which the Noble ViScount opposite now filled. He must
say that he had heard of the anomalous influence
in many instances of females at Court. Anoma-
lous influence of that description had been the subject
of discussion before, and he was leaned to think the
Noble Viscount was at the present moment suffering
some inconvenience from the exercise of that very in-
fluence. If he (the Duke of Wellington) had gone a
little further in opposing that influence than might
suit the taste of the Noble Viscount, he could not Op
it ; but this he would say, that at the same time he would
have put his right hand in the fire sooner than Lave
proposed to her Majesty to make any arrangement
which could appear to him to be repugnant to her
feelings, in order to enable him to undertake his share
in the Government of the country. He believed be
had one through nearly the whOle of the subject, and
he hoped he had not in the explanations he had give"
exceeded the legitimate bounds. He had only now to
add the expression of his gratitude to her Majesty
for the gracious condescension and consideration with
which she • had listened to what he had to state, and he
must say that that feeling of gratitude would never be

effaced from his recollection.
The Noble Duke was loudly cheered on resuming
his seat.
Viscount MELBOURNE felt it *necessary to say
one word in explanation. It had been alleged that he
had_ given her Majesty advice upon a statement which
he had admitted to be erroneous.—(No, no.) That
was not so—but what he had said was, that the state-
ment which had been made had produced an impres-
sion upon her Majesty's mind which, from the recent e%ti
planations in the House of Commons, he believe
was erroneous.—(Hear, hear.) The statement wag
that Sir Robert Peel should have the power
of dismissing all the Ladies of her Majesty's Household,
not stating the extent to which he meant to carry it,
but leaving upon her Majesty's mind the impression
that he meant to carry it to a very great length. Th,_
statement had made that impression upon her Majesty
mind, but after what had been stated in another Pince
he believed that. impression was erroneous. Tbed
Noble Duke had alluded to an influence that had trouble
him in his career, but of which he (Viscount Melbournl
was unconscious ; and when the Noble Duke sal
that the country was at the present moment suffering
under similar influence—(Several Peers on the OP:
position side of the House here exclaimed—"
he said nothing of the kind.") Oh, then 1 beg pardoo'
said Lord Melbourne, and resumed his seat.
Their Lordships then adjourned.