The Sun.
London, England, 1839-03-15 00:00:00

up in the commercial and manufacturing interests of Eng.
land. England gave wages to the most desolate of the
Irish people. If the demand in foreign countries was in.,
creased, manufactures would be forced into inland, and
thus employment Would be afforded to her people ; whereas
the Corn-laws as they affected Ireland, according to the
testimony of the supporters of these laws, annihilated com-
merce aad put an end to industry.—( Cheers.) 'He ccebf-si
scythe Lad another feeling on this subject. As a Chrisian
man—(hear, hear)—as a Christian' man he coull 'not'
entertain the idea that the aristocrat was' to fall upon the
poor, to increase his;meal; and' fatten by measuring out,
a pitiless morsel of breach° the widow and orphan.—( [lear.)
It was astonishing that in such a country as England the
good feeling arising f;em that sentiment 'alone did not
'prevail,
,and that the_ sense of moral obligation did not
induce the people of England to advocate the repeal of
the3e laws. Their opponents were a class that became
prosperous by the labourer having less food, and by the
person who, while in health, thriftily put by in the savings'
batik a certain sum for his old age, haying that annuity di. '
minished in order that the Lord and the mighty man, who
was the landed rooprietor, might share his loaf with him.
- Ilear, hear. ) His feeling on this was so strong that it
had created in his mind a great sensation against :the sel-
isliness of the landed proprietors.. But this selfishness
was not confined to England, for they perceived
that the Irish landlords were on the same scent.
—(Laughter.) If there was anythin7 had in ' Eng-
land, he would lay a wager that he could show sonic-
thing worse in Ireland, uni in that respect certainly
our - Aristocracy were not worse than their S.—( Laughter.)
He'did not know whether it was a calumnious thought or
not, but hd had frequently imagined that if they fattened
and served up infants there was a spirit among them that
would gorge the instal—( Laughter.) That was really the
idea of a really great man in Ireland, Dean Swift, who,
finding the .persccu'ion of the Papists going on, published a
pamphlet, in which he said---." Why do you-starve them to
death in your own country—fatten, salt, and send them to
the West Indies."—( Hear, hear, and " The
system," said the Hon. and Learned Gentleman,
" that creates distress among your manufactures, di-
minishes your means of production, shuts foreign
markets against you, prevents you from deyeloping

your resources, gives misery to your streets, and creates
typhns and disease in Ireland.—( Hear, hear, hear.) That
system we arc opposing, and it is incumbent on every man
to.exert every faculty of his nand and to.excrt every energy
to abolish that systein.—(Hear, hear.) Let us not be
thrown back by defeat.—( Cheers.) Defeat is the increased
strength of the 1 caceable agitation in. a good cause—
( Cheers)—and being convinced that we are perfectly right,
it being manifeSt that we arc perfectly right, and it being
clear that our enemies are thorougly wrong—( Ilear)--all
we have to do is to persevere until every mania England
understands what we understand, and the moment, that is
the case all opposition to -sound reason and common sense
will cease, and we shall triumph in obtain ing what we
now seek; as I hope we shall, in obtaining many other
blessings. —( Loud cheers.) '
The nom EasitiNS MURRAY controverted the statements'
made by Mr. Christepher in the House of Commons last
night, and corrohated those of Sir G. Strickland.. It-would
appear that Mr.. Christopher did nut wish manufactures
to prosper; but he -contended that it would benefit the
landowners much if they did'all in their power to get more
manufactories establislied.-( Hear, heilr.)
Mr. BanKiii, of Preston, begged to call the atten.:
Lion of the Pzlegates to the observations made ,by
Lord Darlington, last night. . His Lordship, at the
commencement of his speech observed "that the manufac-
turers of England seemed impressed with the full idea that 11
they had a patent to manufacture for the whole world, and
that no other country had a right to manufaCture for
itself." Where the Noble Lord got such an idea as that
he was at a loss to know, but his Lordship might
certainly have told the House of Commons with a'
little more truth that " the landlords of England seemed
'impressed with the full idea that they had a patent
to grow corn for ,the whole world, and that no' other
Country had a right to sell a bushel of • corn."—( Cheers
and laughter.) That -Noble ,Lord also stated " that it ap-
peared to hint the Chamber of Commerce of Manchester
had resorted to most. unjustifiable meant for getting up am
agitation on this question. They had endeavoured to
foment discontent in' every part of the Country, and had al-
most gone to the extent of seeking. to arouse the
populace to , arins."--4 A burst .of laughter from all
the Delegates.) He (Mr. Barker) had .not the honour
of betonriring to that body, but as there were several
gentlemen present who did, he trusted that they would
give an answer to .that statement.—( Hear,' hear.)
Mr. COBDEN; in the absence of the Vice, PreSident of
the Chamber of Commerce (Mr. Holland Hoole), would
remark that the gentlemen who took part in the. discus-
sions at`Manchcstcr, were the last men who would be-
come advocates of physical force—( Cries of "
inasmuch' as they were more interested in the peace and
moral 'ascendancy of the people than any ctlier-bOdy.—
(Hear.)_ •They were- not- extensive landowners, but they,
possessed property "of that kind, so exceedingly
sensible •of violence, . that . one of the incendia-
ries who had been pretehing physical fercc recom-
mended, as a meant ".0 Alestroy that, property;ihe
einployitie.nt of a knitting kneedle. Therefore it might be
easily, imagined Low exceedingly susceptible of injury their
property was. If the language of the Chamber of Commerce
was energelie, it was because they felt. their- property was
menaced with de.itruction, not by the knitting-needles, but
by Lord Darlington and his followers.

The CHAIRMAN Said he did not know whether the Dele-'
gates were aware of it, but some one had made a present of
a sword to Joseph Sterge—( A laugh)—not for the purpose
of armins, according to Lord Darlington's notion, but for
the purpose of showinr, the price at which it could be ma-
nufactured—it was of furcign manufacture, and it cost a
Is., the cost of the sword being 93., and of the scabbard 3d.
Mr. WEIR said, that there was no danger to be appre-
hended from the Chamber of Commerce—the danger arose
from what they might have sit❑essed in the Legislature.
After the disgraceful interruptions to Lord Ilowick last
night, and Which he understood would be :repeated to-
night, fel' the purpose of annoyance, he feared that these
proceqdings might drive thq people to despair,. and the
despair of A suffering population was always to be dreaded.

Mr. STURGE wag note aware that the sword hid been
intended fo him. .The'l7lol'e he considered the subject, the
Mere he wag convinced' hat flit; use. of pllysical force was
in opposition to the 'dietates of Christilmity; but if, tho
people, driven to despair, should have• recourse to it, the-
respori'sibility l'iottid rest on the heads .of those who hid
driven thdm to it.

The CNA IhMAN said the•sword had been maiiiiraCtured
in Germanyto be sent to America, from whence
exported to Africa: The coSt`of an Englifh sword a `that
description would be 2s-. and a the scabbqd 101, So'lltat.
we' were eompletely,driven Ont,,of the market,
Mr. ST URGE Said he hoped that such a trade as' the one
in swords would speedily be .discontinued.
Dr. BowarNo said that these swords were very sbldinn
used by the Africans. for Warlike purposes, but Were prin-
cipally used for cutting trees.
Mr. BARKE4 said he. hoped they viou d, soon beat their.
swords into plough shares, .and-their spears into pruning:.
hooks.

•
. Mr. PLINT (of.. Leeds) would allude to some of
the stateMents of that profound economi.,-t and statesman',"
Mr. Cayley, who had borrowed what Le had said trod
thecqually profound Mr. M' Quin. Mr. Crhad, in stating the
amount of capital il'lcsted in !mad, included:tithe and pier
rates, sand calculated this til thirty years' purchase; hi fact
he had confounded annuity and capital--( Hear, , hear,
lear)—but- they had, not done any such thing
.in calculating; the amount of capital invested in
,manufactures--in that case they had only calculated the
value of the bricks and mortar, as the capital invested in
mannfaMures. 'ln caleulating tlie taxes paid by tlle,ag,rl-:
culturists, lie had included every tax, direct and indirect'
paid by the farmer, even on his tea or his tobacco, so that
the agriculturist was' to escape tax free, except in
so far, as lie himself was a consumer .of agricultural
produce. ' Now the manufacturer could not do this,
because ho was. obliged to go to the foreign markets, and
compute
with others in the sale of his goods. Our skill and
machinery had formerly' given us a monopoly ofth zo-c
mar-
kets. , The long peace had enabled the manufacturers
than this counts vi a ,on the Conti-
nent w ere ineinotaols .
pert ce urt.
of the Continent to rival us in those particUlars.
and the only way in which we could compete with theM was
by lowering the money rate of Wages, but it by no• means
followed tilt the Money rate of wages must be lowered to
thee 1!
rtheth
• reduction of ,20, per •cunt. would enable us to enter into
n(.o,rtsandad.rolife y
sueceslul competition with them, and under a system of
fro,' opor: a.:*.l of corn the labourer would not suffer by
this reduction, because his Nod would be lowered in pi=jce in
proportion ; but if this reduction took place while the price
of corn continued to be high, then the labourer would in-
deed tide. When the people understood this part of the
subject they would join with the Delegates in urging a:re-
peal of the Corn-lawS. .
Di. BOWntso hoped the time Would soon come when
. of belly, led away the people,. instea'. _•_ . by the renney
id nstider th
amount of wages, won co. - c quantity of corriforts,
they could procure •
and indulgetw° whio)l t for a given &mount
of labour. with regard to the money rate of wages the
introduction- of 643' ' fre trade system had
alWa s.
produced the effect of raising wages.
Wages in the 14than
States under the restrictive system were from sd, to llbd.
the and in ?werefrom I the A
to 4i. siatic 'perStatday.es under the tradesyistlll os.
Tike CiliitsmAN announced the intention of the
P 1
to dine together to-merrow,.at Si De titie
.• I 3
x o'clock
The Meeting then adjourned.

" Birmingham.'
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gates, liessNl. Daniel Alati:cr, Robert Mather, slid Joihua
Walrsley,: " Liverpool," were put for

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port; during the The exportation. of the precious metals from
tile port. of London to foreign
to I lambur'g,
pit,t week,
ending Thursday. is as foll,ws:—Gold coin
9.150 oz. ; Belgieln, 1,000 rz• ; 111° Janeiro, 144 oz. ;ILri,
Hotterda.in, (3,,t3Zinoz.- .Silver Coin
to Hamburg, 1;740.02 ;
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'Canton, ;36 Bars to Madras, 25,000 oz. ; ,oo- oz. ; Cal. 26,•215 oz. , i. .... , .
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Sir 'Abraham Hum; Bart. The house is to endergo re-
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