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Several Peers were sworn and took their SeatS. •
The Bills before the House were .finwurded in' their re.
speaive stages. - - '
Previous. to their Lordshipsproceeding to the 0 rdet"of
the Day, a conversation tot* place in botisequiknee. of
The Earl ofSuF*OL.K'.S adverting; td /he
,pteyht high
Price, of Previsions, and repeating the Idea twhich he had
suggested On a forrner, night, that the enormous extent of
Paper Currency was one of the principal causes of the
High Pricei. lie also-wished for infonnatlon:respocling
the progress made by the. Provision Coritmittee, :and to
learn whether they- had taken thepoint heallued to into
their consideration. Ire alsoiexpressed his wish that an
account of the Bank gapers now In circulation were laid
before the House.-
Duke ..of MONtROSE said, 'he .shOuld, net trouble
their Lprdships respeeling. what had fallen from the Noble
Earl relative to the amount of the Bank Paper in circular
tion, but merely to ObsierY,er.upon the progress made •by
the Committee in - que.iort, who, his Grace •said, were
proceeding with all 'possible dis_pateh with -the important.
and complicated sullied betbr„; them.We...understood the
Noble Duke to say, that they were at present engaged in
investigsthig.the important business of the Waste Lands.
q/SUFkULIC was proceeding to speak in ex-
Planation, when- he was called to, Order '
Jhe Dgke•-el ATHOL, who observed, upfm what he
contended' • was the irregularity of the conversatiO n
begged to remind their Lordships that they were then
assembled by Sununcins to proceed upon the Order of the
-Day; whickwas, for the discussion of a -subject of the last
national importance. . 'He must deprecate therefore •any
desultory conversations, • and which, he' must also call
disorderly,- as there was then no specific Motion before
the /louse which Would tend-to • prevent their proceeding
to the- Order-of the Day. Ile contended that such a line
of.eiantlud-was inconsistent with the Rules and: Regula-
tiOns of the House.— • - - • •

, Lord HOLLAND also rose to speak to Order. He cen-
sured the. pradice; which of late obtained of calling
Peers to Order, without sufficient reason- fOr so dbing.—
I n the • present instaricee the. averred that the Noble:
Duke was much.rnore:outof Order than hisehible Friend. •
He would beg the Noble Duke to point • out that Order,
among all.those contained in.the Book, which the Noble,
.Earl had hit-lineal: rt was competent; he observed, to
any Peer to brlng=lersverd any Motioil he thopght proper,
or givQ notice of any Motion, before the Orderof the Day
and he wished to•knuw, by What intuitive knowledge it.
was`,'rlit he was apprised his Noble Friend did not mean,
to conclude witlia Aiotion. It was a matter of gent:rail
convenience with their- Lordships, that they could feetle,
larly ask for any lamination respecting Committees ap-
pointed by Vie Honie, in order eo ground., thereon a .lo-
tion, or anyo'ther proceeding he should think prop.-r. If
them was any disorder in the present instance, it lav with'
the Noble Duke; arid Mere particularly in his manner oC
attempting to-establish Order: Why did he not, It he-
was stroeele impressed with the idea that the Noble Eerl
was disorderly, move to have his words taken Crowe, then
considered with respect to the, injunttions of the 'Order.
Book, and if found to be wido or these, to move what cm
re-.
su he thought proper: for his Pere, while he had a Seat he
that House, he would resist the practice Of thus unftieutd-'
edly calling Peers to. Order—a • prattiCe, which appeared
to him, to proceed more from thecensideration of who the.
Peers were, than what they had advanced. •
Daroir-If AT f TOL spoke shortly in explanation.
The•Fairl- of SUFFOLK observed, that- in the view of
saving time, he did not then mean to trouble the House
with a specific M9tinn. lie was not in the habit of mak-
ing long Speechee, :but the subjed he adverted to; 'tie felt-
was one of vital importance to the Country; atuleherefore
it was his.wish to take the earliest opportunity of moving
for a specific return from all the Counties, of the number
of. Country .Bareke established therein, and the:quantity of
Bank Paper issued by each Batik, &c.
Lord 1108,1R7' said a few m wets. upon what had fallen
•froin the Noble Earl ; but in such a tone ofvoiee, that we
could not distinctly hear him ; however, .we understood
his Lordship to sueeest toehe Noble Earl the propriety of-
, naming a distant day for the dis.cussion .of the proposi_
Lion; Which he conceived to he one Of settee :Importance ;.
.and also for Supunortisie, their Lordships upon theoccaeioa .
Me Earl o.). SUFFOLK seemed to acquiesce in the pro-
priete; of these remarks, and as.we could collect. moved
" that the Lords be Summoned for Monday next," which
se as ordered accordingly..
STATE OF THE NATION.

The Order of .the Day was then read for sum-
nioning ;he Peers, upon the consideration of this
subjc4. . ..„ .
T'L,,; Earl el -DARNLEY .rose, -to bring for-
ward his prothiF;ed Motion. He-was aware., .he
said, of the .vast importance and magnitude .of
the Subjea which their Lordships were about to
consider, and fully apprized of -the very difficult
and, arduous grounds which considerations of duty.
impelled him to. take on the present occasion; and
under those impressions he rose to address their.
Lordships:. - Before he proceeded to the eon.sitle-!
ration of the main question, he should beg leave.
.'to recur generally to the. causes which operated
with, him to pc‘stpone his proposition, until the
present advanced day. • He was influenced by:
two consideratiois : The fast—his sense of. that=
respefl-and decorum which he felt was,due.to the,
Illustrious Personage, on whose restoration to'
hellth.he had happily ;o congratulate that :House.
and the Country : No man..could more,deplore
the indisposition of that Personage, or possibly
rcjoice more at his recovery ; with respea to the
latter position, he would go farther and say, that
noman rejoiced less than he did, foi he was con--
. fident,, there existed but one feeling throughout'
the. Country, and among all ranks and tiefcriptio.ni
.'of persons on that happy event, - The seeontk:.
consideration which induced hail to postpone ir,l
was one which operated with him neither.so di
-re4tly, nor so forcibly as 'the first cinisideration,•
namely, what had been said and urged to him,,
on. the -ground of a Change in Administration ;.
• the changesrwhich had taken place, *ere, in his
mindi'no just ground for postponing the proposed
Inquiry. He thotight those of little conse-
quence. to • the :general .objeft, .which involved
the situation of the Country at large, .and
:particular point, the condutt of the War,' .The
-.situation of- the tetuntry,• particularly with re-
ota to•l4',oign Powers, receive.d:very little al-
teration, thtnigh the Men who conducted atYtirs
-were „Changed. His -Lordship.
,spoke highly . in.
praise.of 'some. of the late Ministers,,--he . was
. willing to. give thew. credit. for every
for the best intentions, -.rind. zeal for the .service
of their Country% and. a Considerable_ portion of
talents ; but, 'latterly, hp strongly disapproved of
many of elicit tnealiure, •}:le . seemed, • in the
first part. of :this.:propcisitioti; to allude-to ,the
Noble. Earl late at le head of the Atrine

Department, Whose conduA in office he ap-
proved; though at the same -time he seemed to
say, his successor possessed superior advantages.
He was conscious nolhing he could say could
adq to, the well-acquir2d fame of the present gal-
lant Officer at the head of the Admiralty Board ;
but he certainly must be supposed to be more con-
versant in naval affairs, and better judge of
professional merit. His Lordship observed, that
his first idea was, to confine the Inquiry /0 the
conduti of the War, "but upon subsequent con_
sideration, he saw the necessity of enlarging his
plan, and that all the circumstances of -the
Country required investigation. His Motion
in the present' instance should therefore be for a
Committee 'to inquire into the State of the
Nation. In proceeding to these iMportant,'cornl:'
plicAge ana 'extin-slite considerations, he should

,
first advert to certain 'points relative to tar
conduit of the War, which; he thought, merited
disapprobation, censure, and Inquiry ; and in,
this view, the prominent point appeared to him.
to -be the affair of Sr. Domingo, where, so much
. British blo(xland treasure 'had been fiuitlessiY
• expended. tie then passed to the measure of re.:
clueing the number of the Militia) the. COnstitu::
tional Force 'of the Country; for thelurpose of
creating a larger disposeable' force, and NV hicll—
principally einployed in ; the well-known
Expedition to Holland; respeaing' which, we
understood the .:Noble Earl' to say, he Nerd. op-
posed an-Inquiry, o,n the grohnd, that it would
tend to, relief On the -.conduet of .the Troops
than whom no set. of men could possibly be.
have -better. For the -perseverance of the late
Ministers •in acing OffenSively: against the
• Enemy, he seemed to give theth credit, htit he. •
had hoped to see their large disposeable force more,
etreaually employed ;, he spoke of the pradica-
bilitptif having sent them to co.operke with the
• Austrians, which measure might have given a
very different' turn, to ;the' decisive battle Of A
Marengo.—He • 'then rouched upon 'thc'eircum-.
Stances. of the 'Expedition to Ferrol, and seemed
tnexptess his'shrprize, why the OffiCer who
'tuanded on that occasion, and for whoth he pro- .!
fessed , much resped, did not wish :himself for.
.an Inquiry.-=On-those occasions he thought the.
lriti.,ll- Arms were disgraced.,He next pro-
:ceeded to • aniMadVett upon the affair of Cadiz,.
on which he faid considerable stress,
,and
in his mind, particularly called for inveshgation.,
To illustrate. this position, his Lordship read
-tome exliids .frbm the. French ACCillt‘tff'j
in their Papers, which he doubted not would .
make an impression upoirtheir:Loidships':inindS:f
they shewed' the opinion., entertained by- the
My of that attempt, and their feelings upon, the:.
occasion. -These being 'already before our
Readers, -we !deem it unnecessary to recite the
Extrads :—the vaunting and ostentatious account
given by the Enemy of the retreat of the
.13titish
Force from' Cadiz, formed the prominent . part
of these, and which concluded with a weak and
scurrilous animadverSion.upon'the'effed and ob;
.jet-. of those Expeditions. 'Upon the whole,. he
. thought this was one of the most Objeaibnable
parts of the eondua of the War, and called lOudly
for Inquiry. With resped to the affair of Egypt,
he thought than were 'it7 not for the Inistondtia of
Ministers, we:might,have been in possession of
that Country. He panegyrised the behaviour of
- the Officer who principally distinguished himself
in that quarter, and who he deemed to be per-
haps the only map who was able fo'resist the al-
' most invincible genius.of BONXP ART E An In-
quiry into this , important- • and questionable
transaaion had been urged without effea.—,
He hoped the gallant Astny now in that quar-.
- ter would meet with much better success than
they hitherto had ; but when he - considered the

situation of affairs nearer' home, and ,the pFoba-
vilify of their being .wanting to defend the Colin:
try; • he thought -it :Would be incumbent on -Mi.
nisters to give strong reasons for employing them
there at present.-.---tiis • Lordship then proceeded
to consider the'. circumstances of the. Country;
with-.a reference to the very important question
of •a. safe. and.. honourable Peace, and, in ''discussing:
this, he thought it would he sufficient tel. take Up
.the subjektat the period of the first Message from
BoN APAR TE. He highly disapproved °Mai ngua'ge
held.by ,Ministers, with re en to • that powerful
.man,—He was no advocate for him; yet he could
not avoid seeing the injurious. effeef.which such
condua towards him must eventually have. The
circumstances of the House of Austria were the
nexr-objeft•of his animadversion. • He expatiated:
upon the calamitous situation to which the impo:
-litic contluft -of Ministers had reduced that Power
—4-heals° went into some detairwith respett to the
Hostile Operations which lately took place between
the Hsu iR-ott .and thedereneh,' and contended,
that at the time of the last ren'ewal. of Ho.
.stilities, and which position' he -would submit
to 24 • unprejudiced Military Min; there. Was
no probability Of success on the' part. of the
Emr Eior.. From this point, he passed to the
topic :of the serious differences between thii
Country and the Coalesced Northern- PoWers;
and the impending Rupture with thetit.--With-
, out wishing to .comment upon..the Question of
Right tin our. part* had no hesitation to say;
:that,vix did out. always exercise our Right.with
.leriity, or in a proper manner ; there were
fiequent instances :of abuses:'. Mc seemed to, think
the. present situation of‘the Country .with respe&
to Denmark and Sweden Might; :though. in regard
-to. Russia, he • thought, it .could ncity-be avoided;
however there- was no necessity- of 'adopting such
a high, tone, with. •resiseetto-Russia, 'and' which
naturally could be produetive of no-good; and

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i • .
he censurf..4 the nipoircyo(lYlinisters in delaying
operations - until - a'.period when. Russia
could not be attacked,
,or • with'-the greatest dis-
advantage. Hid a tigorous line of• poliCy:bekl.ri
resorted to 'in the first instance, the Confederacy'
Most probably would never have taken place, and
Russia been' so reduced, that no seticuS apprehen:
•sion need-be entertained-froni that quarter. He •
trusted, however, that Ultimately the zeal ofhii
Countrymen, and the energy_of the British Arles;
,wOuiA preveil, in that guar-ter ; but he felt it his
duty,' on the present occasion, to. advert to the
paint.: In ate course of his aniniadversion on the
foregoing topic, his Lordship referred io several
of the official docunients which were interchanged,
betweenthe,gower4444,llr tiorrp., He next ad:
ttekiiretitnstnees of the .Cotint N"%;i tit
resped to itsdomeitiepolici and internal.situation,
. and in this view; lie first noticed an -alarming:
deficit in the ReeCinie, which he:atated at nearly
"Iteo Million's ;1 that alone he thought should con- •
suture h sullicipttt ground,foelnqutry. Another
point LI, fined a still from
‘.‘ Riperience and the Evidence of shewed
the Weak arid impolitiemeasnres of Ministers.-
-He alluded-to -the 'prtnent•.high prices of. Provi-
sions, which,.hatl.4ris„poor, advice. beenfolkiwed
last-Session, there .Viould. now4C-116...necessity:far
discuising, the roint.• With resp,c6.to this topic,
the Noble .Earl went into some details respeabig
' the proceedings that hadtalieri place, and animad
-vetted in de the.varivtis
.re.paeclies proposed.
. on the Part of
.ryoVerament—all ,whieh had failed
of success--the 'prices continued progressively to
rise initead-of'dirniniShing; which was a strong
.presumptive proof that the -remedies proposed
by Ministers ..had never 'been adopted.,-In this
'part of his. Subjeti he ;referred to -.the present
calamitous state;' of Ireland with. respeq. to
--RroViioni, particularly in the arale-of Crain,
notwithstanding the:late favourable, harvests.
The: Representative Peers of that Coeetry could.
speak metre decisively on that point, and so far
feel more stiongly ihe necessity ,of going, into an
Ittquityos, lie dodbted not; the life 'of all Irish
. Peasant was higher- in•.their estitnation-th,in the
pampering-...an Engiish 'Horse. Another point.
which calleA.Thr investigation; was the affairs if
the:Pitintry tO,which.he :Medea. An universal
scongratulation from , both Countries had deser v-
eilly taken plate-en the atispicions ,event of the
. Union; but the condua of Ministers, in spine.
points connected with._that measure., was 'curt,
-at to call for inquiry ; that tit • ale Gove-ro.
.which "bad, afte4
•in such is as, mit to conciliate .eithee.,,
'lhe ProtestantS ur the Catholics : and inns-
-trating. this position, the Noble Earl was led
into some •dctails, and, particularly referred
to certain proceedings adopted by the Grand
Juries of that'Countrv, -at.the instigation of Go,
verninent. Upor(these general grounds, he. sub.
mittediO•their:Lordships, the necessity of insti,
tuting- -tkeinquiry ; and as an additional reason,
he stated•the conduct of the kite Ministers in
tiring. from'- Office at so xri tical period--anti--antiin
the inidAl4 une.,kiunpled difficulties and dangers, •
created..by. themselves., 'Upon.the. whole, -he felt •
the House. was 'Most imperiously called open to.
institute an Ititittiry ,into the circumstances' of the
Nation—they should shew.tti the_Country, they
were determined to interpgse.for its Salvation ; and
III) longer follovVthat-system of blind anti implicit
confidence which-lad plunged the Nation into its
present calamities. He 'called upon the Peers,
RePresentatives of the Kingdom lately United to
Great Britain, 'to support the MotipO, cs'the irate_
-rests of their. part 'of the Empire
.were, so deeply
involved in 'the' discussion. lie . would call
upon . those Peers whose 'illustrious Ancestors •
fought for, and obtained,the Constitution of 'Eng-
- land, and 'cetriented it- With blood. It _was the •
duty of those *particularly; '•tti. support. a -mea-
sure on • which' the preservation
.of the Constittrr_
Lion and the 'National Safety alope dePentied.—
. In-conclusion he addressed 'himself generally to
-their Lordships, and con (bred, them, by:.all that
was dear to themselves,' and-their regard for the
trueinterests of- their Country; and their rege.rd•
'Posterity to support the Notloil -which ,he
shoulapropose, tviiich was, ‘‘ That the, 1-16 U se do
resolve ittelfintaa Cdintnitfee,.to &insider- of til7.'
State of- the NatiOn.- •- ,

'The Duke of A:IONT.R9S E .said,, that he fully
agreed .With the:Noble
.EAtzl .who ALA ju,t satdovvn, that. both- Houses .of -Parliatuent- had
stria Cdnstitutional, Right to-inqUire into the
state and eirturnitances of the Country, but,
broadly as he
.stated that :point, and, adniitted
the. he must obscrxe. that- the- .exefti Df
it. should' be. rained by discre.tion.--
, This .Conii,leratioti was te&es,,ary: accompani-
ment.of the Right, and was as much-a part
.of it
as the Right itself 4as Constitutionally itrherent
in .Parliament. - It thOuli,ttherefOte most
appear that a necessity for su.cli , a' proceeding
existed, else, instead of having a salutfity., is
would certainly- have a.
.mast 'dangerous ten
dency. Nat. was thii the only cOmidera-
ticin, the inconveniences of Inci giry, on Abe bro;:d
and general. -scale' proposed by trite noble
.Earl;. should be .seriously weighed. lhAlouse.
.shoUld &colle6l,- that., in
..ordei to Ii i e such
an Inquiry full and satisfa6ory, it would 'be-ne-,
cessary exattiine °filar& of •vArious descrip-
tions .at their bari who wcio now absent }l}-vontte
Most imNrtaitt -skry ices -; a 'number of Cie.),!ks ri ust
be also tviketv, from their lire:.cut .business, and
employed in prepat _the, vatictup,.Accotints
.arid
Estimates ;-the., attention of :the Ministers must
"• •
necesarlly be tvhdllTengrossL;d, by:.the.tireunt-
stances of_sueli an Inquiry, whose time and sa-

lents were now necessarily called for by eon,:
siderations' of • greater and more pressing ianpor-
tance. On this view of the subject alone he must
decide against such an Inquiry as proposed by the
Noble Earl ; but he had still stronger objedions to
the Inquiry, which, in the present circumstances
of the Country„ was its dangerous tendency.—
The Public were. always prone to imagine, and
indeed- with much reason, that Intittirks--of thib
kiwi were instituted, not for any declared or
ostensible reasons, but for something latent, or
‘from tuOtives which were kept concealed from the
view:- He ‘vould.athnit that, with respet to' the
state of Ireland, there. might be sOille• circum-
stances which called for Inquiry ; but fora that end
• it was, by no means necessary to go. into a gene-
r 1 Inquiry into the State of the Nation a pro-
,ceeding of thelatter_description would only tend
- to instil fear and apprehension into the public
mind, and at a moment when sensations of avery
different nature should be infused into the People,
It was not his intention.. then to touch upon'the
afThirs.of Ireland--those may on a future day be
regularly the subjefi of. a specific Motion; hut
he could not avoid noticing a few points which
fell front, the Noble Earl—And first, with regard
to the condua. of this Country with respett to
Neutral Nations.. He observed, that that Ques-
tion had been recently and %-ery ably discussed, par-
ticularl y on the -part of a 'Learned Lord then in his
place. It was then decided, as it had been clearly
• understood before, that this Country only exercis-
- ed her clear and incontrovertilale right as a- Be!.
ligerent Power, and if there ever exasted any one
period in its history more than apother, in which
it was incumbent on this Country to assert its
right, and to shew its energy and vigour, it eel...
thinly.. was. the present. Such a spirit •most
suc&ssfully. animated the People of Rome, wheri;
the Carthaginians were triumphant in her territory
after the Battle of Cannce, and in a similar kVay
it behoved this Country to ad in her present
• moment of difficulty. and peril. With resped to
- the Noble Earl's idea off` the impolicy of ;Mi-
nisters in not ading vigorously at an earlier pc,-
riod against Russia, and in their present projeded.
attack upon the Danes„ he must beg to remind
the Noble Earl of the respedive geographical.si-
tuationa of these Powers, and the difference which.
existed with resped to • climates. At the period
when the hostile and unjustifiable condud of Rus-
sia called for offensive operations on the part of
this Country, the ice rendered all approach im-
pradicalee—that their Lordships must surely
think •tv satisladory .refutation• of the Noble
Eau's objection .. With ;Denmark, lying more
to the South, the case. was somewhat
ferctit ;.added to this, her situation at_ the
trance of the Baltic, .I.eittiereti it necessary (con.
,sidering the whole in the view of hostile opera.
thin), to attack her first. If 20 or 3o of the
- Danish. Vessels, could be 'secured in the first in
stance, we could obviously ad with the greater ad-
vantage against Russia--it might be, however,.
mnre, martoimons to• begin with Russia, and
leave the. Danes, &1:e. in tile rear, but, - •
ly, not quite so politic .or ..cure. To speak
seriously, however, he trusted this Country
- would always be found 'willing to assert, and
able to maintain her rights, and on these grounds,
not to dedine fair and honourable,War with any
. Country.. Rectal-11z then to the-proposition of
•.General Inquiry, es proposed -by the Noble Earl,
-he proceeded to shew its impracticability:: to carry
that fully into tired,. it would be necessary to
have some of the - leading :Austrian ~Offieers at
their bar ; for instance, the Generals.BELLEcAans
and KRAY ; but the predicability of this was to
be considered ;. perhaps their .Lordships' Summons
on such an occasion would riot, every panetu,
ally attended to. He should like himself to see
these• Officers at the bar ; he could put some. curi-
ous qaestions to them with respect to -the Eve-
. ditions so • much dwelt upon by-,the Noble Earl.
He must observe, that they were 'not to consider the
• ostensible, as the real,or the only object of these ex-
peditions ; the gr.md object of them was to died di-
versions, and in as many different points as possi-
ble. Sy the attention upoteHolland the French were
put to incalculable trouble and expellee, in marching
Troops from :the Rhine. and the Interior to de..
fend thatquarter.:—.So fir-the objet} was gained,
• by an important diversion in favour: of the Au-
strians. By the plan. adopted by Ministers for
- the co-operation 'of ;this Country with. Austria,
- the Enemy. was-obliged to keep up a large Army
- at LiNendee, at-Belkisle; and • other places'on
the Coast.' So much Force, therefore, was •neces„,
sarily -taken from her Armies-on the Rhine. The
144,000 men lately sent out, kept the • whole of
the Enemy's Coast from the 'i'exel to Cadiz in
perpetual alarm and dread,- and prevented' -the
Spatiaards frtim contributing their assistance to.:
• wards- effecting' ambitious projeds of the
Enemy. His -Grace .spoke-favourably of the
Clutrattertand conduit of the different Officers who
commanded- on these occasions, -deeming them to
have roperly executed -their duty,' on the idea
• that diversion was the grand übjett of the Cam.
paign. • The measure of placing part of time Sol.
diets, who 'were..sent Via in the Fleet, into our .
• Garrison's in' those quarters, and' taking fresh
Tioops from. Ocoee; for service ,in . Egypt, was .
certainly a very judicious arrangement.
",‘The Earl of -SUFFOLK here rose, and appeared
as irgo/ng to speak to Order; he, however, im-
mediately sat down, :and the -
The Dale of - MONTROSE, proceeded. He
• knew not, .he observed,! what the Noble Earl
could possibly interrupt him for, exceptit was
that he liad.spoken too -long, (a general. try 'of
Hear 1 'Mar !) He should only however detain
their Lordships to say,. that,- in t his mind, no
solid •or adequate reason lied- ,been assigned,
which should induce 'the: House to go into the
proposed Inquiry. .
The Earl of, DARNLEY spoke shortly in expla.
11a-ion. ; .

<Lord HOLLANb rose, and wosth some degree,,
of ‘varinth commented ‘upon the Speech of the
Noble Duke. The last. Speaker, he observed,'
had indulged himself for the most part in a vein
of pleasantry upon subjett of the most awful
and serious importance ;
_and indeed so) much had
lie blended the ironical with the serious, that he

was at a loss to /51./OW W hat Tarr or 1113 ZVercil
was intended for- the one fir NV hat fir - the Other.
1-k had --admitted dr the House had • a right to
.
inquire, but that se the present circarstarices
that right should not be exercised—the tircum.
stances lie hadsallawed to be awful and mermen.
tous, and for that reason the causes. were not to
be inquired into. This inference spoke for it.
aelk sit-remiadedshias of, the. cot3utt of a gal-
lant Sea Officer, and a Member of that House
(then no more), who had invented; a set of very
useful arid' much Signals, -but whichi-in-
the moment of a&ion, when those-could be ren-
dered of essential sereice, he forbade the use of,
them, saying to his Captain " My dear KEttt.
re-Xvieut, we* shall have none of those Signals
this day.'",---So with the Noble Duke and his
'Right of Inquiry, which he, now it might be
of essential service, prohibits the exercise of.
•But lie would ask, had their Lordships so soon
forgotten the dreadful and calamitous War which
had aggrandized the power of France beyond the
wildest ambition even of its most sanguine Mo_
. narchs, and that during the whole course of
it no one Inquiry: was suffered to take place, or
attempt to express their diffidence in that Admi-
nistration'who had so miserably condutled it I For
his part lie thought it more than ever necessary,
in order to spew the People their real situation,
and to evince to them that the doe-trine of blind .
and implicit confidence could be no longer per-
- sisted in. With resist& to the Noble, Duke's
comparison of this Country with antient Romei
it' was pot
,altogether corm& ; to compare it to
Carthage would have been more appropriate, par=
ticalarly with a reference to the present dispute
with the Northern Powers"; the Carthaginians at
first said the Romans -.should' not be perinitted
even to " wash their hands in the SicilianSeas-:-
the War7engaged in in consequenCe, rendered that ,
. People odious to the whole world—and it would
'be recolleded that that War terminated in the
tiestruClion of ,Cartliage.—With respeCt to those
much talletti of Rights, he had his doubts, how
far they obtained, at least he was certain that they.
were exercised in a most impolitic manner, and
one good ground for Inquiry was, the faCt that
most of our Allies were:converted: into Enemies..
—His Lordship then adverted to .theeonduCt:of
Administration, in rejeCting the Overtures..of
Peace made by BONAPArr 6, • in.which .he took
occasion to extol the moderation and-sincerity of
the Enemy. Their conduct -also he seveiely ses
probated in, refusing to -Mike a separate Peace
with the Enemy after the Battle of Marengo, as
well as io eecourigingAustria to persevere in the
contest, after bet affairs were evidently despes.
rate. His 'Lordship proceeded. to take notice of
the late uosuecessful Expedition-to 'Ferrol. Oii
this subject he thought it behoved the House to
make Inquiry, ivhether this failure- was' to - be
ascribed to the conduit of the Officers entrusted-
with its execution, or' to these who plaiined it ?
For his part,- lie believed the blame would be
found •tu attach on those. who planned it.—And,
this he inferred, because every Expedition which
'had-been sent out from this Country had. proved
equally unsuccessful. Nor could it be admitted
as any sufficient apology for the Expedition to.
i'errol, or any of our late Expeditions,' that at •
the expiration of twelve or sixteen mouths they
may at last have- arriVed' at Egypt. Passing
from this, his. Lordship said it was an additional
, motive for' their Lordships to agree to a Cont.'.
mittee of Inquiry, as they had so much to en.'
gage their attention with respect to the affairs of
Ireland. - The late retirement of His Majesty's
Ministers-Trom office, on whatever account,, he..
could not • but consider as, fortunate ; although,
-unfortunately for the Country, 'they had left the"
effeels -of their -Mal-administration behind." He
therefore thought that it was a fit tubjed for the
Inquiry of the House, whether or not the Mal.
administration of the Country had proved -the
cause of her misfortunes ? And if this should turn
out to be the faCI, the House would be lousily
called upon fora vote of censure and punishment.
Under the late ,Administration -the Constitution
had been materially impaired : the only way to
preserve the Constitution was-to restore it to its
pristine purity. With regard to Ireland,-he con_.
sidered that a system of Conciliation was abso-c
lutely necessary' to be,observed, and the abolition
of all odious • distinClions on aceounrofßeligion.
He should not quarrel with any; be they whom
they may, who should contribute-to the Catholic
Emancipation ;. at the -same time, he- could place
-no confidence in the.sincerity. of those who had
opposed all conciliation with the Catholics foimer.
ly ' and ifthere was any alteration in their views,
he believed it . was the effed, not of On vidion, but
of the battle of. Marengo. But if it- should. be
found that the new Ministry were seriously,de.s
termined to restore the blessings of Peace,.be de=
dared this would very- much soften any opposi.
Lion he might be disposed to make'to thefts.- In his
opinions. the best pledge :they could give of their
determination- to --pursue Peace; would -be by
voting for his Noble Friend's Motion.. • •
The -Rail rf ' WESTMOIe AND, at cons
siderable,:lerigth, and with great ability, -de-
fended 'the 'eonduet and sincerity of the late
Ministers: He expressed his dislike at the term,
" 'Catholic Emancipation.' -He considered this
expression as little else than a watch-word for
Treason and Rebellion: He.was surprized that
there were any who dared to make use of stitch an;
expression in Parliament, at -a .time when' the:
Catholics of Ireland were' in possession 'of every
privilege, excepting" that of sitting in Parliament,
and of holding certain Public Offices. tWhat, ho
would ask, did such persons Meall to do-?•
before - they attempted'. td deitroy the System
which the wisdom • of their ancestors, had esta.:
blished, he would-ask, what. they meant to sub-
stitute, in lieu' of that- which they =wt. to
destroy ? He begged of -those who talked in'
this manner, -to consider, that in connection with
what they called ,the Catholic Emancipation, was
involved the Law of Settlement,- thesAEtiof To-
leration, and the Union' with:Set:Aland, all of .
which would be more or less affected by, such' a-
measure.- He assured the House that thereas
no pains which Government did not take to pre-
vent their being in any respect pledged to such a .

measure ; but, as to what Oto Agents of Ciovern.
:new, so called, might do,lhe•should say nothing.
AVith regard to the events of the War, was
true, there were some of them which had proved
unsuccessful ; bat if the crews of former 'Wars
were compared-with the present, he apprchhnded
that there, would be no discredit by such a Coin-
parison. At any rate, no fair _argument could
be drawn on this. account, agaioststhescoodnasor
ability of Administration. When the successes
'of Sowoito* and other Generals of our Allies had
been Tecordetisshe had never heard, by the Op-
poers of Administration, of the inabilitypf the
French GoVernment ; it was peculiarly% uncandid
in them, .there to impute any. partial want of
success to inability in the late•Administration.:L:-
But he would not admit the fait which had been
. assumed, that our Expeditions, generally speak,
had failed. The , Expedition to Holland;:-
had in various, though not in all restieas, Sue-
ceeded ; and hough the Expeditions to Ferrol
and,Cadiz, had nor ultimately proved 'successful,.
• yet they had operated as seasonable sAivetsiOnS hi
favour of Austria and Portugal. Upon the whole,
his Lordship declared.:that he was not so much
dissatisfied with the Expedition to Ferrol as
many seemed to be. But it- had been said that
our other Alliances • had proved unsuccessful.—
This heconsidered as little else than a repetition
of the old calumny, in which all such Continental
Alliances had been vilified, and of the old, though
unjust refletlion, that British blood and treasure
had been sacrificed to Continental• Alliances. But
if there had been a failttte ofout expeaations, it was
to be attributed to events over which the Bri.
tish Administration • could have no controul, to
the timidity
.andfluauation of Foreign Councils,
• and to the policy of the. French in disuniting 'other
Countries, and to their principles of insatiable con-
quest and ambition. With respect to the Northern
Confederacy, his Lordship entered hut's.; full
examination of its principles, and a defence of
His Majesty's Government in resisting them. He
declared that 'not a desire of aggrandisement, but
a regard-for the very existence, of England, had
prevented. this Country froin acceding to this
Confederacy. The principles of Maritime Law,'
on which, this, Country Stefed, were avowed and
to 'abandon a principle. .once avowed, he con.
sidered to be worse than not 'avowing a principle'
at all. France, he insisted, had ached upon prin-
ciples more injurious to the rights. of Neutral
Powers than this Country had deine. She had,
not only confiscated neutral property,,but neutral
ships, 'having British property on board ; and
from historic fans his ,Lordship. shewed how,
the KING of ?Russia, • and • :the EMPEROR
bad entered . into similar. engagements. His
Lordship :also , stated the. avowed. principles;
and cotidua'Of the• Court of SWeden ; and atter
adverting. to His IVlajest's•leolty and .forbear-
Slice, When he found the exertion of, a similar
right, on his part, ecintradieted and opposed, by
into NegotiatiOns of Amity with the
Danes and Swedes, -he asked, what 'effecct had -this'
lenity produced ?----Fresh Treaties had been en-
tered -into by these Powers with Russia, of an
hostile nature to this Country._ The next ground
which had been stated fur entering into Intittiry,
was the Negotiation for P. ace, . which had been
proposed by the Enemy the last year. in his
opinion, if Ministers had not refused. entering
into Negcrtiations, • under all the-circumstances
that time,' they •would not have done their diity..
His lordship denied that any. offensive language.
had been used by • Ministers upon that occasion.:
No. relleaion which had• been thiown out upon.
former Gossernments• •of France, could be. eon
sidered as justly offensive to- -those who corn.
plained of ',them. His Lordship said, be ;Con-
sidered the 'objet of, this -Motion for- Inquiry,.
was to weaken the. efforts of Administration,' to.
cause despondency, and to encourage the hopes of,
-the, Enemy.: • For •what other , inference dould
the Enemy draw from the adoptioli of this- Mo.
tion for Inquiry, but that this CountryscOuld
-not go on ? Would net:-: the--' Enemy be 'sled to
say,,---."c the-House _of Lords :is hesitating—=-have
but.a little rnOre'patienees Frenchmen, and Eng-.
land is at your controul---England. will •givo -you
back Martinique, esc."- But,, for his part,. he
believed that vigototis Councils)- and well ap-
pointed Fleets, were: our best, Negotiators. He'
denied that .any Noble•• Friend of his had led
England into the. War ; but it. was• the good sense
and. the alarni of the People of England, that
called for War ; not but that they knew well the
horrors of War, but even these they prefersad to
the certain destruftiOn of Peace.. In. entering
upon this War,- -his• .•Lordship„ said, we had -all
Europe and. Justice on. our. side. It was true
i that t ,bacl. pleased the, Almighty to eitablish
the French Republic, and to permit"-the Con—
tiriental -Nations .to be visited with insult and
disgrace. But; he would ask, Were Ministers
responsible, because some of the:Allies, lost to
their own true interest, had joined the Enemy
against the Confederates ?• Still'he would ask, at.
what period had England :stood..prouder. as the
assertor of its own rights, and-the defender of
the Liberties of Europe .. England had:hitherto:
prate:tied her; CoMmerce, her. Laws, her Religion,:
and Constitution. Upon a subjea of this nature;
it was necessary to; inquire,. nut only into what.
,England had paid, but what she. had preer'ved;
and after having done this., to'COllltaSl the Whole..
-with what France had suffered. If on such a
principle we calculated our losses and gains, and
compared them with those of -other Nations, we
should be fottnd considerable &doers by the com.-
parison. • •• . .

• The Earl of. CARLISLE . thought that ar.
Inquiry into the State. :of. the. Nation Was.
proper and. necesSary. The Natioq was . plucea
m peculiar circumstances of ditfietiq and danger,
in ..-which . much inforinatiOn .was requisite;
and investigation Wantei His. Lordship -re-
remarked, that the mighty fabric' of Adminiitra.
tion was departed horn.. •The-Countly:hardly,
knew-:how or why the•late Administration liras
removed; Our National .diflie.ultie3.'were'very
great, and inTrwortiort • to the greatness (Won!.
difficulties, tho Country wanted a .strong Admi-
nistration ; external enemies were-
uPon use besides which, there were aU the inte-

nor

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-,anc,utes arising _
siOns, and ManuFaCturers our of employment.---:
Were we then, his Lordship asked, to make the
experiment of the talents and virtues of the new
Administration ?—But with a view of going
into a Committee, he begged leave to suggest.se-
veral Inquiries- -which it would be proper to
make. His Lordship Said, he for one should
whh,jo. Icpply,.. in the Committee of Inquiry,
who it was that advised MAJESTY
.to
make the 'choice tie hall (loner' triFttiaVCoin-
7tni ttee- he -WVuld -Wish al 6o to be informed...WlG
it was, than had aciVised.kirs MAJESTY, in the
first dawn of _his •Canvalescence; :to take such- zt
material step
.as. to plit'-new-7tnen into high and rt-
Lsgbnsibie Oitces'i(-Aa'.vA ;'r -under such difficul-
ties, duringllts Ni A*,-si'v's illness, the common
course slid not .cibt.iing,:_lo have rediurSe.. to the
PRINCE- of WAvrtii ilkwvqwsk, of what dc-
.getiption were the new Administration formed,
to entitle:them to hula; 4i:our in ale-eyes of
.the
People The .giiplipfterS the .Jate Nfinitry
would lament to set this new Administration not
going on • With the satte-vigotie. as the old. To
:the moderate rarry, 'who was more inclined to
Peace,- this Adininiktration could not be accep_
table from :heir elose.cOnnectido with Ahe old ;
and they co'ild cxlpc.it liCtlfavOurlitomshose
.‘‘ ho
considered their inVtalitiency, compared with the
old: ; "not, in his opinion; cm.ildany.depenihince
tie placed on the sillspOl t which the old-Admini-
stration would continue to give to tilt new. On
all these accounts; zrrtd conkidering the trying si-
tuation of the Country, Lordthip said; he
should vote for the..ing:lirv, aktlinugh he §boul4
have been inclined to. oppose it, :on .the grounds
on which it ktd.been oriciinally-introduced.
Lord_Fi Ft 'said a few words, which we aid not

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distindlY.hear. • •
Lard SUFFOLK said, he would pot .take up
much of -their .Lordships' time ingnlarging upon
the Question before the House ; he would merely
confine himself tO.. a few 'observations tTon the
Military objejas of the late. ,ministration. The
first point upon w hich his I..ordAiip _animadverted,
:was the Expedition' to Holland. H then corn-
rnented upon the manner in which 111 C attempt
uport-.Ferrol had been ecitiduded. He did not
pretend to decide whether it' was or was not
pradicable to take that place, .but upon that
point he -thought 'the- opinion of the Chief Engl.
neer. was one .entitled to the steateSt• respe&.— -
.Something had•been:kaia abo')it the dilficulty of
taking places, by. eSealade ; upon this subject he
- wished to observe, `that in the American War al_
most every place that was taken was by escalade,
and that' in the preseut War several places had
'Been taken in the-swine Manner. Having argued
upOn these - points ;at sOrne length,
_his Lordship
concluded with giving his assent to,the Motion.
Loid MOIR4 said, that
.in the discussion' of
the present questiOr, he dirt expel that the Mi-
nisters would have taken
.an'opr?rtunity of ex-
plaining the situatioo• of. this Convy. His oh.,
jed was, not so much. to examine into the causes .•
of cur foriner misfortunes; as to inquire- how the
evil under we at present LabOured 4.ePttitt lie
retuttlied. in-his_opinion, the duty of that House
Was, not to look hack tit thetirOeitt moment, bin
to begin fromthis,dav to endeayour.to alleviate
the situation of the C.ountry.. It. had been ;said,
that the ebjed of the•-present 'Motion was to
create :a kind of despair ;• but in his opi-
'
the grearest despair Was, Anti which would
not let a People look.aethe,ir situation, apd.thei."
Tore he' wished to appose that kind of desperation
(if he might use the expression) which. arose from
people being. frightened. out of fear. His Lord-
ship then proceeded to comment -upon the man-
ner ,in which the Public Force of this
Country had :been employed. ft had . been
_said 'that it was right to employ a large port of
our Forces in such a manner as to distract the at-
tention- of the-Enemy, and-to make it -necessary
for thegi to be preparettin every' quarter ; but if
that was Our. intention, Jr Would have been as
completely answered if our Arniatneht had never
sailed from ourports, because then France would •
not have been able . tO'guess where.the 'ltuts
-to fall, bat. by' sending the .Fleet to Ferrol, it
_sheaved
and took of..the apPrehetision which ;the that this Country had a specific objef,
my might have for OtheFirarts.' the object} of
Ministert was .merely to, alarattlie•Enemy, it was
not necessary to effect a landing; .because the mere
appearinee 6( our Fleet npon the Coast would hare
answered the purpose of effecting a diversion of
their force.. If the whisk of the great Arniatnent
which we had prepatea had ban employed its
threatening the .'Southern Coasts of France, Bo:,
NAPAtttit could mat have ventured to send so large
a parr of his Forces into Italy, Which' ultimately
~ffeded, the conquest . that COuniry.- flat ,a
Noble Lord said, that we were tow. called .upon
for peculiar exertions, because we had all Eurolie
fur.ourEnemy.., . if, .however,',3.t. was true 'that
we were ,in. that, situa6oo,_ the Country: haA
right to know how it happened that we had con..
Veiled these States who had been our Friends and
Allies, into Enamic.s. ThCir; Lordships ha(' a right
to ask, whether every metros had been emiloyed to
prevent this Country' from being placed in so un-
precedented a sit-nation. At was necessary toknoW
what" Were the grounds upon which those States,
who had lately beCorne hostile to us, had aa.ed
and, whether the objed' dislike was
which, under our present cirCtunstineesi it would
not have been-wise to havegiven up. He then =
called-tipotr their liordship• to Consider the di's-
t!-es3ed state
preStu of -the NianufaCtUrevi, and the
. re upon the Finances of this C.CLM.
trY, • V.iL`h .tespca' to the 'present'Attrninistta,
tion, Lord,..hip said - that it afforded thin
.no gtounis foJiiip.: for 'Peace, .hocause it was
not one
absuhi to call uiOn Fram.e.to treat with and place
I:tinficie:sfcc in, no Ads-13'414 triftiOo,..that 'did not• CO.
juy,,the.conftaene:e of, the Couirtcy Ove'r
which it
presided. • -The general opition that'pro"
'led in •
Was, that though'
Tile liersons were
.no longer in Administrati,:!, yet-thesame.
cities were uded•uporry and' that even if a PeaceWerc..concluded, this Country' would not wish to
maintain it, if under the exiSting•CiieUrnstancs•s
it appeared more advantageous to break it.