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land. Mkt 'woMci say that' he majority supportinc, an eitablishment of a different religion ought to
be proteEtedint he fall 'and fair exercise of their own.
The precepts of, the :benign Author of the Christian
religion diretaed us to love each other, and. to view our
mutual errors with indulgenCe. If the 6orreelion of
-errors vas to be studied, the means of Me corre&ion
should be gentle. * A 1:Ny6.01-nest zeal, Rarticularly
if seConded by political rigours on one side, and,po-
iit
btflietits on the 'other, could only inalpro-,
selytes of a feW knaves. The mtv'alo.ages of the sys 7
tem of relaxation adopted in the 'present reisn was.
extensively felt the substitution of enligbtened
Catholics for furious bigots. The Catholics of this
day' had no hostility to the State, as in the times

when the restriEtimis 'Wete establiihed, and
sequent times, when the restricitiOris served to keep
that hostility alive. He depreared-the too close
'union of power with the established religicin, :and
feared the religiOn as well as the State, and_ the
country, would suffer from an union.
could not think ill of /a religion 'thy ,t had produced
some of the best men .that had elver breathed, and
some of the ableSt defenders ofthe Christian re-
: ligidn;..--a Fenelon
.and 'a PaScal;_ and he could not
help contemning in a Chancellor of Ireland, at the" I
'• present day, the study of the nartow polemics of the
dark ages. He did not mean w hurt the teelings of
the Learned Doadr. He ,gave him credit. ',for sin
cerity in the language he uttered On a recent coca-
sicin and 'he was not without some hopes, to,whiat
repOrt gaie strength, that theL4arned De6tOr. (feel- 1
ing how obnoxious that language wag, and how of-
Jensive'his' appointment to be a Privy Coun‘eltor
would be alter it) would ,himself ditclairri 'it, and
withdraW from thati appointMent. If Leahted
Dodor should ad in that wooer, 'stick' conduct
would make him more truly right honourable in hiS'
eyes than any distindion of birth or' title howeVer
great. He moved that there: be laidbefore the IjouSe
Copies of the correspondence between 'the Lord-
Lieutenant of Ireland'and the Secietary of Stateifia.;
.tive to the propriety of appointing Patrick Diaigenait;
Esq. L. L. D. to be, one:of his: Majesty's Most Ho-
nourable Privy CouncA slot Ireland.
Mr. W. Wyritste expressed his disapprobation of
the appointment ,of Dr. Duicrenan, .and said• that
there was no business in, the Privy Council of lre.;
land in which his advice would be necessary.
Sir AITHUIt WELLLSLEY., said, that in recom-
H mending it to the House to reject-this Motion, he
should not folloW the 'HOn. Gentleman who-had
intro4ced it through the great variety of topics in
whieh he bad indulged; but which, did not appear to
him to : very much, conne&ed with the oneition
under consideration. He begged to assure the
Hbuse, that. the appointment of which the propriety
WAS now disputed, did not take place in consequence'
of any application whatever of the Learned Doctor
himself—it was made solely upon the grounds which
he had stated ,on a torther night. The Learned
Gentleman was Judge of the Ecclesiastical Court in
Irelpd, and. the person who filled that ottiCe- in
England was always a Member of the Privy Couticil. I
It could hardly be necessary for him to s,tate, that

there was a great deal of ecclesiastical cc-

casionally beFore the Privy Council,ofireland, such
as uniting,and disuniting parishes and benefices, and
other business of that kiwi upon which ittntist he
obVious that .the alivica Cif Ile liAiroad Dottatiwbuld
be necessary. The attention of the House was par-
ticularly called last, Session, by a Right Hon. Baro-
net opposite (Sir 4. 'Newport) to a subjet to which
he had just adverted, viz. the Uniting of ParishoS;
&c.: it was therefore natural that the Lord Lieute-
nant should be desirous of. obtaining the advice'of
the Lt:arned Gentleman upon such a sobje&, The
questions upon which as a Privy Councilibt, he:wonid.
be called.upon to give his opittion, bad no connexion
with religious differences ;' they were Ajuestions reL:
gating to the Church, of which be. waS 'the principal-
Civil (Aver . The Learned. Gent., from

his situation auel .professional knoWledge tivas Diu.
donbLedly the fittest pen!,outo.give advice upon these
subje6ts, and.. therefore it was thought proper that he
simukid bOnPointed a -Meeiber of the-Privy Council ;
and he begged to ask, wheth-erthefe was any thing
in the clta)l,4lLr of the. Learned Do&or wiliel),st;oula
prevent sueli an appointment ? The Hon.'Gestle-:
man who had for Ward the Motion had'
borne tectitnony., to the , high charaCter which he
clittraaer which, certainly was equal
th:tt of any. man,-,in the:Country: The only'
objection which Gentlemen seemed to Save to
the Learned Dator was, that' be was warmly,
atrached,to the interecticof the .Established Church
and of the ,Protestant iteligion This was 'the
first time, at least this was the first -Seseon •
of -Parliament,. in which- it 'lad been • publicly
maintained, that because a man •was; attached to the.
Protestant Church, that therefore he•was,untit to be
appointed to any ollicc, or to be• made a Member of
the Privy Council, He begged to 'repeat, that thiti
Gentlenw, as'a Privy Councillor, would not be called
upon- to give advice upon thegeneral measures. of Go-
verntngntut merely uponsueh questions as might
he referred to. him respecting ecclesiastical affairs.
With rasped to the observation 'Which, the Learned•
Gentletnan was stated to have made use of, it: an in-

discreet expreasion had follen from hitu, it certainly
would have been a good reason for taking notice of
it at the. time but surely it could nat.be considered
.as a reason why the Lord Lieutenant should not'bi

allowed to avail of his advice. If that ob-

jeelion was to hold. good on one side, he supposed
ought to hold good on the other. With respect to hini-
self, he did not care what a man's opinions wi!..re, he
thought he ought to be employed in the business for
which he, was qualified; and upon that•principle he
bad recommended,the appointment of the +Learned
Gentleman as a Privy Councillor.
Sir J. -NNWPOWT thought the. app*tment under
the consideration
.ot the House was calculated to
produce a. very had etleat, when coupled • with-the
cur,tailment of the grant • for Maynooth, and other
evidences of a disposition hostile to the Catholics in
the. present AdminiStration. If his 311kt5ty's NEM-
sters had any regard for their own clipraCler, or the
safety of the country, they would not persist in the
appointment in question.. •
Mr. BEREsronwmaintained that whoever charged
the Roman Catholics with being bad subjeas, libel-
Jed and 'belied theta hut: to call in question any
poiutment I:lnuage made• use of in Parliament,
however indiscreet, was tit once to interfere. with