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geridge, the son of the person he had before referre d
to, as the receiver of his rents.
Mr. Roupell was then cross-examined by Mr.
Bevil", but very briefly: alie said he had already
taken God to witness that the will he nom said was
forged was genuine. .He swore to that fact before
the surrogate, By so doing he committed perjury,
His object now was to do justice. lie wished the
jury to believe that he stole his father's will ;
that he burned it ; that he forged a fresh
One ; that he forged' a deed of gift ; that
he also forged leases—forged the names of the
tenants—and that, " practically," he cheated the
defendants of £12,000. He would also admit that
he had " robbed" his father of £lO,OOO in cash, end
that he had cheated his family, and now wished to
get the property back. He had not exactly
" cheated" his mother of some Marine Assurance
shares, but he fraudulently disposed of them and
kept- the money. (A laugh.)
Baron Channell—What is the diffarence between
that and cheating her out of them ? (A laugh.)
Witness—l admit there is only a difference
in
words. I came here from Pentenville Prsen, where
I am under sentence of penal servitude for life, for

forgery.
Mr. Bovill—ls' that the prison dress you have on?
Mr. Roupell—lt is not.
Mr. Buvill—Then you admit that you hare
cheated your family; and is it not a fact that by
means of the proceedings you have mentioned you
have Obtained more than £200,0009
Witnes,:---I admit that this haa been the effect
of my conduc!, but I did not intend to f:o as I have
done originally.
Mr. Bovill—Why did you do it then ?
Mr. Roupell—l did it to escape a very great
difficulty.

Mr. Bovill—And you committed perjury, I sup-
pose, with the same object ?
Mr. Roupell (coolly)—Yes.
In answer to further questions,
Mr. Roupell said that since he had been confined
in Pentonville Prison he had occasionally been in
communication with Messrs. Linklater, the solici-
tors to the plaintiff, and he had also seen the latter

occasionally.
Mr. Bovill then addressed Mr. Roupell, and, in an
indignant tone, said. "You may go back to the place
you came from—l have nothing more to say to you."
Mr. Roupell then left the court hastily, accom-
panied by the warders of the gaol.
Mr. John W. Truman deposed that he was for-
merly in the service of Mr. W. Roupell as superin-
tendent of the brickfield and roads upon the Rou-
pell-park estate. He was acquainted with the late
Mr. Richard Roupell, but did not know his signa-
ture. The name of John William Truman es attest-
ingnot presents
witness to the deed of gift was in his hand-
writing, but Mr. Richard Roupell wast
and the signature Richard Palmer Roupell was no
his handwriting. William Roupell was present,
and he believed he was attesting his signature, or
Mr hde
should not have signed his own name to the dee ,
He believed that the deed was also signed by
.
Dove as attesting witness. The witness then went
on to say that he afterwards attested one ot the
fraudulent leases relating to the Essex property,
and he said that in this case he believed at the time
that he was merely attesting the signature of Mr.
W. Roupell. The witness was then shown the
forged will, and he expressed an opinion that the
body of it was written by William Roupell, but he
said he was unable to give any opinion as to the
signature Richard Palmer Roupell. He said he wag
aware William Roupell always carried a gold pen
about with him, and he had seen him sign his name
with this pen, and the signature "William Roupell"
that appeared upon the forged will was, in his opi-
nion, written with that pen. He said he was aware
that Mr. Roupell frequently carried a writing desk
about with him, and witness bad occasionally carried
it to him in his carriage. Witness had been an
officer in the same regiment of volunteers of which
William Roupell was the major, and he frequently
saw him sign his name, and he was well acquainted
with his signature. Me remembered the time when
Mr. Roupell left England. He went to see him at
Aspin-house the day before he left, and upon going
to the room where he was he appeared angry at
being disturbed, and showed temper, and witness
observed a smell as of burning paper, and he after-
wards saw a quantity of paper ashes in the fire-
grate.
Cross-examined—He was acquainted with Mr.
Roupell from the year 1852. The brickworks were
carried on in witness's name, and he was sorry to
say he permitted Mr. Roupell to use his name. The
business was Mr. Roupell's, but it was carried on
in witness's name.
By the Court—Mr. Roupell was in Parliament
at this time.
Cross-examination continued—Witness was to be
paid £3OO a-year, and he was to receive commission
besides. Witness was a shoemaker before he went
into the service of Mr. Roupell. The name of
Truman and Co. was still up et the works at Brix-
ton. He could not recollect whether the name of
Truman and Co. was up at the brickworks before
Mr. Roupell went into Parliament. Witness was
held up to the public as the owner of the brick-
works down to the period when Mr. Roupell
absconded.—The witness was cross-examined at
considerable length in reference to the circum-
stances under which he attested the different deeds,
and he said that he remembered seeing Mr. W-
Roupell sign the instruments, and he was certain
of the fact from seeing his own name as the at-
testing witness. He thought that he was attesting
the signature of Mr. Roupell to leases of houses,
and he signed the deeds at once without making
any inquiry. He had, of course, great confidence
in Mr. Roupell, who was at that time considered a
man of high position and importance. When ho
signed his name to the deeds he observed that
there was something written over the place where
he signed his name, but he could not say what it
was. Mr. Roupell turned over the deeds very
quickly, and appeared to be anxious to obtain his
signature as speedily as he could. He could not
er it was that of Mr.
say whose handwriting he
ove.r the place where
he signed his name, or wheth
Baron Channell—What does the witness say about
W. Roupell or " any other man." (A laugh.)
any other man ? (Renewed laughter.)
Mr. Hawkins—Oh, my lord, you have not been
where he has. (Laughter.)
Witness to Mr. Hawkins—I have seen you there
though. (Roars of laughter.)
The witness, in further cross-examination, said he
to think that it the deed when
did not remember seeing the signature of the old
hmea n
signedlt i Richard ai
it,
d a
ndPalmerhe waßoupell,s
inclined upon
was not, but he believed that signature to be in the
handwriting of William Roupell. Witness had never
stated that the signature to this deed was not his
asking g in
abAouprtiti
handwriting, but he remembered Mr. Covinton, the
April, ;en signature,d show-
ingbnto lichitiomr,
acdaleleindgaunpdoanskh
he was very much confused
solicitor, calling
at the time, in conse-
quence of his having just heard that Mr. Roupell had
absconded, and he told him he could not give him an
answer at that time, but he would call upon him and
look at the deed, and say whether it was his signa-
ture or not. He •
that he believed inight have told Mr. Covinton
chned at that time the signature was his, but he de-
or not. He w me to say positively whether it was
Mr. Roupell asquite certain that he never saw old
that he never execute a deed of any description, and
attested any deed for him.
Josephdeed • fDove, the second attesting witness to the
0,1;1 t, was then examined, and he swore posi-
tivelyat he never attested any deed for the old.
Mr. Roupell, and he said that when he put his sig-
nature to the deed
quest of William Roupell, and he said that the wit-
ness Truman signed it at the same time.
This witness was also cross-examined at conside-
rable length. He said he had known old Roupell
since the year 1850. He managed a farm for him,
and he used to sign his name in witness's book, but
he never saw him sign a receipt. He generally
used to sign his initials in the book, " R. P.
After some further evidence the trial was again
,diourned.

THE CANCER HOSPITAL.—MtEs Burdett Coutts,
accompanied by Lady Falmouth, paid a visit to the
Cancer Hospital, Brompton, yesterday. Miss Burdett
Coutts was one of the earliest supporters of the institution,
and this benevolent lady, who takes such a deep interest in
the charity, went over the wards very carefully, and was
pleased to express her entire approbation of all the arrange-
inents connected with the hospital, and it must indeed have
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gentlemen of the committee of management attended the
ladies in their insptctien.

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