The Sun.
London, England, 1839-04-19 00:00:00

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. less regarded than in the county of Tipperary.—( Hear.) it
, seemed to be the result of conspiracy for blood and assassination.
• At the end of the Session, when the Act for the commutation
of Tithes was passed, her Majesty was pleased to express an
earnest desire that the measure for the commutation of tithes
in Ireland would increase the security for that species of pro-
perty, and promote internal peace. But within three months of
that her Majesty's Lieutenant for the county of Cavan, one of the
favourite attendants upon the Royal person, commenced open
warfare on this very species of praperty thus secured. and
signed a declaration demanding its immediate and entire
anni-
hilation.—( Cheers. ) It was this species of warfare that her
Majesty's Viceroy foresaw, and hoped would be suceoful,
when he declared in his place in Parliament, that the Iri.ll
Church, even reduced within its narrow limits, was a stain and
a disgrace upon the Institutions of the country.—(Cheers.)
Her Majesty expressed a wish that the property might be
left more secure. Her Majesty's Viceroy expressed a hope
that the means of warfare would be transferred from the weak
to the strong, and that the war against that species of property
would be eirried on with greater vigour.—(Cheers.) The
Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin, one of the supporter •
of the Government, had declared that the utter extfnetson of
all Church property e as necessary to the being of the Catholic
population.— ( llear, hear.) But to return to the point at
which he started, what was the object of the resolution?
It was pointless, unless it was to intimidatc.the House of Lords.
The inquiry would proceed, as if the resolution had never passed.
If the object was to intimidate the House of Louie, he
would refer to the high constitutional authority of the Noble
Lord opposite ( Lord John Russell) upon this very ;Point. In
the year 1833 the Noble Lord expressed this opinion ids re-
gard to the poesible case ef a collision with the House a Lords.
Ile said, thit if the House was to enter into a contest
es
with the Lords, it ought to be on some great constite
question, but that they ought not to risk the peace and
tran-
quality of the country for the sake of some abstract question.
Noble Lord also said, and it was a noble sentiment, wee'
worthy of the Noble Lord, and the family from which he
sprung—" It is impossible not to see that it is the object of a
certain party in Ireland to obtain, not by legisl eive means, le-
gislative remedies for what they conceive grievances, but by
means of violence to compel the Legislature to fellow
in the wake of their intimidation. Such conduct is not
only injurious to Ireland, but to the prosperity and oasis r
of the whole empire. It is undoubtedly a great honour to sit
in the legislature of this country, but if ever it should be do-
eraded to so low a point as to acquiesce in miconstitational
j mandates, it would be far more honourable to till the ground
in the most humble capacity than to be a Member of the Legis-
lature.—(Cheers, and counter cheers.) That was the opinion
of a member of the House of Russell—that was the
opinion of all the compeers of the l /take of Bel-.
ford.—( Hear, hear, hear.) But it might be said
that after all it was necessary to take this vote as a
security against the establishment of an Orange despotism in
Irelatel.4Cheers. ) Of all the chimerical visions that ever
entered into the mind of roan he conceived that to ha the most
unfounded and the least sincere. Ile did not conceive that a
Government could or ought to stand for one day which at-
tempted to govern on that principle. The principle on which
Ireland ought to be governed was the firm and impartial ad-
ministration of justice, and the equsl and fair distribution
of patronage with regard to individual charieter, conduct, abi-
lities and private worth, without the least reference to differ-
ence of religious principles. That was the principle enunciated
by his Right Hon. Friend the Member for famworth.—(Cries
of " No, no.") It was upon that principle Isis Right Hon.
Friend brought forward the Catholic Emancipation Act, and
he could safely appeal to the integrity and the firmness
of his Right lionoerable Friend as sufficient guarantees that
he would adhere to those principlei.—( Hear, hear_ )
He might be accused of endeavouring to excite religious ani-
mosities; nothing could be further from his intention. If be
might offer advice to the Catholics of Ireland, he would
address them in the words of one of their most eloquent
advocates, the Marquis of Wellesley, in 1812 ; slay, he would go
further than that, he would say that if an Irish Catholic t
cordially embraced the Union, remaining attached to the British,
connection on the terms of the Union, one fundamental con-
dition of which was the maintenance of the Established Church
in Ireland, in his judgment that person was entitled to the pe-
culier favour of the Government. The Marquis of Wellesley,
at the period he had mentioned, had said, " Let the Catholics
endeavour to mitigate those pi ejudices and jealousies which
have heen recently exasperated by the indiscretion of .their
leaders, and invite the Protestants by • reason to listen to
their pleading—let them solicit the favour of the laws
by displaying a spirit of obedience to the law and submitting
themselves to the legal authority.—( Hear.) If unhappily
these suggestions should be disregarded by the Roman Catho-
lies, he would address the same ads ice to the Protestants of
Ireland, and exhort them to adhere to the promises
they had given, resigning every Orange flag, and honestly
and faithfully altandoning all secret associations; let
others forget their pledges ; let others pat strange
constructions on their oaths; but let them, under every cis.
cumstance, and every trial, preserve themselves faithful and
sincere to the last, fulfilling every promise they hod given, and
adhering to every pledge that had ever been required of them.—
(Loud cheers. )
Mr. 'l'. DUNCOMBE moved the adjournment of the debate.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at One o'Clock.

COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL.

Yesterday a Court of Common Council was held at
Guildhall, to take into consideration the several chimes
of th• New City Police Bill.
The LORD MAyort took the Chair at twe've o'clock,
at which time there was a very full attendaaie of mem-
bers.

The various clauses of the Bill were read the
Clerk and discussed seriatim, and a variety oend.
ments proposed, the majority of which were agrted to.
The Court then adjourned.
Wo will to-morrow give a brief' analysis of the Bill
as amended by the Court.